VF4dBALlBXI-00000-00000119-00000311 so welcome to my
VF4dBALlBXI-00001-00000312-00000574 um tutorial poster on
VF4dBALlBXI-00002-00000575-00000759 open and continuous community
VF4dBALlBXI-00003-00000760-00000983 benchmarking by information
VF4dBALlBXI-00004-00000984-00001295 tools so um this is the website of the
VF4dBALlBXI-00005-00001296-00001454 project and
VF4dBALlBXI-00006-00001455-00001751 this is the source code this project is
VF4dBALlBXI-00007-00001752-00002007 very extensible to different projects
VF4dBALlBXI-00008-00002007-00002079 and
VF4dBALlBXI-00009-00002080-00002302 bioinformatics tools but here we focus
VF4dBALlBXI-00010-00002303-00002575 on singaporean asexuals and i will let
VF4dBALlBXI-00011-00002576-00002775 you know why in a minute
VF4dBALlBXI-00012-00002776-00003102 so also this post has been
VF4dBALlBXI-00013-00003103-00003390 work group work of these people and
VF4dBALlBXI-00014-00003392-00003647 especially and somewhere has worked a
VF4dBALlBXI-00015-00003647-00003951 lot with me on this
VF4dBALlBXI-00016-00003952-00004095 um
VF4dBALlBXI-00017-00004096-00004383 yeah so benchmarking is an important
VF4dBALlBXI-00018-00004384-00004543 part of
VF4dBALlBXI-00019-00004544-00004870 the research we do in bioinformatics but
VF4dBALlBXI-00020-00004871-00005118 also actually in other fields of areas
VF4dBALlBXI-00021-00005119-00005422 and single cell and asex tools are very
VF4dBALlBXI-00022-00005423-00005679 good use case because it has the field
VF4dBALlBXI-00023-00005680-00005943 has been exploding in the last years
VF4dBALlBXI-00024-00005944-00006134 so they have been developed more than
VF4dBALlBXI-00025-00006135-00006446 900 tools not all for the same task but
VF4dBALlBXI-00026-00006447-00006710 often for similar on the same task
VF4dBALlBXI-00027-00006711-00006967 in the last years and it gets obvious
VF4dBALlBXI-00028-00006968-00007231 that we need benchmarking there so to
VF4dBALlBXI-00029-00007231-00007487 understand when to use which tools and
VF4dBALlBXI-00030-00007488-00007703 also to use make the most of these
VF4dBALlBXI-00031-00007704-00007927 variety of tools
VF4dBALlBXI-00032-00007928-00008207 and even within the benchmarks
VF4dBALlBXI-00033-00008208-00008414 there has been
VF4dBALlBXI-00034-00008415-00008607 even within benchmarking there's been
VF4dBALlBXI-00035-00008608-00008831 redundancy and this is one of the
VF4dBALlBXI-00036-00008832-00008983 problems so
VF4dBALlBXI-00037-00008984-00009167 that although we have benchmarks they
VF4dBALlBXI-00038-00009168-00009406 are not coordinated and not
VF4dBALlBXI-00039-00009407-00009695 reproducible and extensible so every
VF4dBALlBXI-00040-00009696-00009895 researcher that develops a new method
VF4dBALlBXI-00041-00009896-00010238 basically needs to do his or her own
VF4dBALlBXI-00042-00010239-00010383 new benchmark
VF4dBALlBXI-00043-00010384-00010542 to
VF4dBALlBXI-00044-00010543-00010751 compare the performance of this method
VF4dBALlBXI-00045-00010752-00010927 because the
VF4dBALlBXI-00046-00010928-00011119 current wrench months are
VF4dBALlBXI-00047-00011120-00011278 not including it because it just has
VF4dBALlBXI-00048-00011279-00011535 been developed and because it's often
VF4dBALlBXI-00049-00011536-00011806 hard to extend and reproduce them
VF4dBALlBXI-00050-00011807-00011951 and
VF4dBALlBXI-00051-00011952-00012167 this redundancy in benchmarks also makes
VF4dBALlBXI-00052-00012168-00012510 it really hard for the user to
VF4dBALlBXI-00053-00012511-00012742 decide which tool to use but also it's a
VF4dBALlBXI-00054-00012743-00012855 very
VF4dBALlBXI-00055-00012856-00012943 um
VF4dBALlBXI-00056-00012944-00013215 yeah redundant work so we lose a lot of
VF4dBALlBXI-00057-00013216-00013366 time there
VF4dBALlBXI-00058-00013368-00013519 and it's also hard because the
VF4dBALlBXI-00059-00013519-00013638 conclusions are saved by these
VF4dBALlBXI-00060-00013640-00013838 benchmarks are different um because they
VF4dBALlBXI-00061-00013840-00014047 use different data sets and maybe make
VF4dBALlBXI-00062-00014047-00014335 different decisions when evaluating the
VF4dBALlBXI-00063-00014336-00014679 methods so deciding which metric to
VF4dBALlBXI-00064-00014680-00014983 they care most about and so on
VF4dBALlBXI-00065-00014984-00015150 so our idea
VF4dBALlBXI-00066-00015151-00015366 how we want to approach this challenge
VF4dBALlBXI-00067-00015368-00015519 is basically using continuous
VF4dBALlBXI-00068-00015519-00015647 benchmarking
VF4dBALlBXI-00069-00015647-00015911 and the this idea is not new in general
VF4dBALlBXI-00070-00015912-00016007 but
VF4dBALlBXI-00071-00016008-00016119 this is the
VF4dBALlBXI-00072-00016119-00016383 approach we have come up with now
VF4dBALlBXI-00073-00016384-00016463 so
VF4dBALlBXI-00074-00016464-00016694 here we envision this continuous
VF4dBALlBXI-00075-00016695-00016886 benchmarking and community benchmarking
VF4dBALlBXI-00076-00016887-00017047 which consists of
VF4dBALlBXI-00077-00017048-00017311 a lot of different modules so
VF4dBALlBXI-00078-00017312-00017494 different data modules different method
VF4dBALlBXI-00079-00017495-00017814 modules and metric modules that can be
VF4dBALlBXI-00080-00017815-00018047 basically generated by a benchmark or
VF4dBALlBXI-00081-00018048-00018230 just the method developers
VF4dBALlBXI-00082-00018231-00018422 so if you develop the new method you
VF4dBALlBXI-00083-00018423-00018647 could just commit a new
VF4dBALlBXI-00084-00018648-00018814 module here while
VF4dBALlBXI-00085-00018815-00019022 that would extend the existing methods
VF4dBALlBXI-00086-00019023-00019111 and
VF4dBALlBXI-00087-00019112-00019343 all these modules are then
VF4dBALlBXI-00088-00019344-00019567 connected using
VF4dBALlBXI-00089-00019568-00019822 the wrinkle platform and i will explain
VF4dBALlBXI-00090-00019823-00020175 you later what this is
VF4dBALlBXI-00091-00020176-00020383 and automatically updated using
VF4dBALlBXI-00092-00020384-00020671 continuous integration and development
VF4dBALlBXI-00093-00020672-00020847 and also the results will be
VF4dBALlBXI-00094-00020848-00021086 automatically updated and
VF4dBALlBXI-00095-00021087-00021343 we envision something that is um
VF4dBALlBXI-00096-00021344-00021503 interactive so
VF4dBALlBXI-00097-00021504-00021775 would also take care of the different
VF4dBALlBXI-00098-00021776-00021950 decisions different benchmarks or
VF4dBALlBXI-00099-00021951-00022183 different analysis want to do so
VF4dBALlBXI-00100-00022184-00022455 if someone prefers a certain metric or
VF4dBALlBXI-00101-00022456-00022750 cares about this certain data set he or
VF4dBALlBXI-00102-00022751-00023030 she could basically weigh this data set
VF4dBALlBXI-00103-00023031-00023263 more than other
VF4dBALlBXI-00104-00023264-00023550 or have some yeah so this would be make
VF4dBALlBXI-00105-00023551-00023807 it easier for the analysis to face an
VF4dBALlBXI-00106-00023808-00023983 individual decision
VF4dBALlBXI-00107-00023984-00024430 instead of one overall summoning
VF4dBALlBXI-00108-00024431-00024711 so we started to develop this platform
VF4dBALlBXI-00109-00024712-00024791 by
VF4dBALlBXI-00110-00024792-00024991 making a prototype or generating a
VF4dBALlBXI-00111-00024992-00025222 prototype and this workflow was on
VF4dBALlBXI-00112-00025223-00025439 single cell batch correction methods so
VF4dBALlBXI-00113-00025440-00025694 there we have different data sets
VF4dBALlBXI-00114-00025695-00025846 and data
VF4dBALlBXI-00115-00025847-00026014 processing
VF4dBALlBXI-00116-00026016-00026143 modules
VF4dBALlBXI-00117-00026144-00026255 and
VF4dBALlBXI-00118-00026256-00026518 just for you to to understand and sing
VF4dBALlBXI-00119-00026519-00026718 as a batch correction as it
VF4dBALlBXI-00120-00026719-00026927 basically if you have different data
VF4dBALlBXI-00121-00026927-00027118 sets like here that consist of different
VF4dBALlBXI-00122-00027119-00027262 patches
VF4dBALlBXI-00123-00027263-00027511 um like here the different shown by
VF4dBALlBXI-00124-00027512-00027711 different colors and each dot in these
VF4dBALlBXI-00125-00027712-00028062 disney plots are different cells
VF4dBALlBXI-00126-00028063-00028270 you see that after correcting with the
VF4dBALlBXI-00127-00028272-00028439 vegetation method
VF4dBALlBXI-00128-00028439-00028774 the cells cluster no longer by batch but
VF4dBALlBXI-00129-00028775-00028870 by
VF4dBALlBXI-00130-00028872-00029102 hopefully biological variants that's
VF4dBALlBXI-00131-00029104-00029367 what these tools do and we have
VF4dBALlBXI-00132-00029368-00029607 two data sets there and one method
VF4dBALlBXI-00133-00029608-00029862 called mnm
VF4dBALlBXI-00134-00029863-00030014 and then
VF4dBALlBXI-00135-00030016-00030190 different metrics to
VF4dBALlBXI-00136-00030191-00030390 score these corrections
VF4dBALlBXI-00137-00030391-00030590 evaluate these corrections how well they
VF4dBALlBXI-00138-00030591-00030855 are mixed and how much of the biological
VF4dBALlBXI-00139-00030856-00031079 signal has been detained this can then
VF4dBALlBXI-00140-00031080-00031295 be explored by a vector shine yet that
VF4dBALlBXI-00141-00031295-00031527 also has been developed in our team
VF4dBALlBXI-00142-00031527-00031758 which is an app to rate different
VF4dBALlBXI-00143-00031760-00031911 matrixes
VF4dBALlBXI-00144-00031912-00032118 to your needs and
VF4dBALlBXI-00145-00032119-00032487 that will then accordingly fit the
VF4dBALlBXI-00146-00032488-00032727 results results and show you
VF4dBALlBXI-00147-00032727-00032935 an updated drinking according to your
VF4dBALlBXI-00148-00032936-00033183 own weights
VF4dBALlBXI-00149-00033184-00033407 so for all this
VF4dBALlBXI-00150-00033408-00033695 for this we use renko which is an open
VF4dBALlBXI-00151-00033696-00033911 source collaborative
VF4dBALlBXI-00152-00033912-00034102 platform
VF4dBALlBXI-00153-00034103-00034279 that basically
VF4dBALlBXI-00154-00034280-00034567 is based on a knowledge graph and
VF4dBALlBXI-00155-00034568-00034862 that will store all the
VF4dBALlBXI-00156-00034863-00035071 or will basically save
VF4dBALlBXI-00157-00035072-00035351 all connections between data sets inputs
VF4dBALlBXI-00158-00035352-00035462 outputs
VF4dBALlBXI-00159-00035463-00035646 and what has been done in between so it
VF4dBALlBXI-00160-00035647-00035790 will basically
VF4dBALlBXI-00161-00035791-00035999 have an automatic provenance tracking
VF4dBALlBXI-00162-00036000-00036295 for all what you do when you write
VF4dBALlBXI-00163-00036296-00036543 and it enables the nice thing is that
VF4dBALlBXI-00164-00036544-00036911 enables that it enables you to
VF4dBALlBXI-00165-00036912-00037190 write workflows that can be then
VF4dBALlBXI-00166-00037191-00037407 connected using the in different modules
VF4dBALlBXI-00167-00037408-00037639 that can then be connected via the
VF4dBALlBXI-00168-00037640-00037927 knowledge graph so basically here one
VF4dBALlBXI-00169-00037928-00038199 data set would be one workflow at the
VF4dBALlBXI-00170-00038200-00038439 same time ringtone
VF4dBALlBXI-00171-00038440-00038655 provides um
VF4dBALlBXI-00172-00038656-00038918 version data set so we can store results
VF4dBALlBXI-00173-00038919-00039023 and
VF4dBALlBXI-00174-00039024-00039190 input data there
VF4dBALlBXI-00175-00039191-00039351 and the connection and track these
VF4dBALlBXI-00176-00039352-00039543 connections and
VF4dBALlBXI-00177-00039544-00039639 um
VF4dBALlBXI-00178-00039640-00039967 it also enables interactive computing so
VF4dBALlBXI-00179-00039968-00040174 it's class-based cloud-based computing
VF4dBALlBXI-00180-00040175-00040374 and can be used via the browser but also
VF4dBALlBXI-00181-00040375-00040590 from command line interface whatever
VF4dBALlBXI-00182-00040591-00040862 people prefer
VF4dBALlBXI-00183-00040863-00041135 and of course version code and
VF4dBALlBXI-00184-00041136-00041367 an own container per method which is a
VF4dBALlBXI-00185-00041368-00041535 nice
VF4dBALlBXI-00186-00041536-00041743 setup so that it's easy to work within
VF4dBALlBXI-00187-00041744-00041974 different docker environments
VF4dBALlBXI-00188-00041975-00042183 for different methods and to make sure
VF4dBALlBXI-00189-00042184-00042439 that those methods work
VF4dBALlBXI-00190-00042440-00042590 and even though they use different
VF4dBALlBXI-00191-00042591-00042879 versions of whatever language
VF4dBALlBXI-00192-00042880-00043127 also when glue is independent of
VF4dBALlBXI-00193-00043128-00043358 whatever link
VF4dBALlBXI-00194-00043359-00043558 software language you want to use a byte
VF4dBALlBXI-00195-00043559-00043804 moving language you want to use
VF4dBALlBXI-00196-00043805-00044022 [Music]
VHgTA2I5vo8-00000-00000000-00000142 what is good all my dudes out there it's
VHgTA2I5vo8-00001-00000143-00000335 your boy roxal and welcome back to rox
VHgTA2I5vo8-00002-00000336-00000607 reacts so in the last video that i
VHgTA2I5vo8-00003-00000608-00000950 recorded i did best of holo iv in july
VHgTA2I5vo8-00004-00000951-00001127 because it was recommended to me by
VHgTA2I5vo8-00005-00001128-00001311 someone named slasher soul
VHgTA2I5vo8-00006-00001312-00001511 so i decided that i didn't want to stop
VHgTA2I5vo8-00007-00001512-00001734 at just that one because like you know
VHgTA2I5vo8-00008-00001735-00001942 these ones are good i figured i would do
VHgTA2I5vo8-00009-00001943-00002167 june and august in this one because last
VHgTA2I5vo8-00010-00002168-00002375 time we did july so
VHgTA2I5vo8-00011-00002376-00002558 if you have any recommendations comments
VHgTA2I5vo8-00012-00002559-00002791 are always open if you like this video
VHgTA2I5vo8-00013-00002792-00003047 smash that like button let's get into
VHgTA2I5vo8-00014-00003048-00003638 june
VHgTA2I5vo8-00015-00003639-00003799 oh i thought there was something wrong
VHgTA2I5vo8-00016-00003800-00004107 because it was just a black screen
VHgTA2I5vo8-00017-00004108-00004679 [Music]
VHgTA2I5vo8-00018-00004680-00004815 all right i will
VHgTA2I5vo8-00019-00004816-00004967 i will enjoy
VHgTA2I5vo8-00020-00004968-00005199 i will enjoy this so far spend money on
VHgTA2I5vo8-00021-00005200-00005463 anything like other than like food
VHgTA2I5vo8-00022-00005464-00005775 and like basic necessities it's too
VHgTA2I5vo8-00023-00005776-00006015 in tools that i use uh
VHgTA2I5vo8-00024-00006016-00006254 a lot my butt is kind of an exception
VHgTA2I5vo8-00025-00006255-00006375 because it's a pretty cheap one from
VHgTA2I5vo8-00026-00006376-00006734 ikea
VHgTA2I5vo8-00027-00006736-00006975 this sounds like a new bedford discord
VHgTA2I5vo8-00028-00006976-00007637 no it's not today
VHgTA2I5vo8-00029-00007638-00008519 [Music]
VHgTA2I5vo8-00030-00008520-00009727 please no she looks so embarrassed
VHgTA2I5vo8-00031-00009728-00009983 this audio is really loud your job is to
VHgTA2I5vo8-00032-00009984-00010367 give me art related questions
VHgTA2I5vo8-00033-00010368-00010495 all right question i want to draw you
VHgTA2I5vo8-00034-00010496-00010751 know in a really comfortable fashion
VHgTA2I5vo8-00035-00010752-00011031 i need to buy a comfy bed involved
VHgTA2I5vo8-00036-00011032-00012383 i mean you didn't
VHgTA2I5vo8-00037-00012384-00013319 [__]
VHgTA2I5vo8-00038-00013319-00013527 i have a confession to make i am all in
VHgTA2I5vo8-00039-00013528-00013743 on hashtag coco leopard for at least
VHgTA2I5vo8-00040-00013744-00013999 four more months
VHgTA2I5vo8-00041-00014000-00014175 oh potential you may bunk me to the user
VHgTA2I5vo8-00042-00014176-00014311 room now
VHgTA2I5vo8-00043-00014312-00014991 but it won't stop me
VHgTA2I5vo8-00044-00014991-00015335 i feel the need to ask this
VHgTA2I5vo8-00045-00015336-00015575 since when were the ears of thing
VHgTA2I5vo8-00046-00015576-00015911 when was this
VHgTA2I5vo8-00047-00015912-00016038 kobe
VHgTA2I5vo8-00048-00016040-00016230 so it's true then sir
VHgTA2I5vo8-00049-00016231-00016422 a part of him lives within me doesn't it
VHgTA2I5vo8-00050-00016423-00016583 if i remember correctly she's supposed
VHgTA2I5vo8-00051-00016584-00016758 to be a phoenix right why does she have
VHgTA2I5vo8-00052-00016759-00017015 the
VHgTA2I5vo8-00053-00017016-00017199 the ears let me know in the comments if
VHgTA2I5vo8-00054-00017200-00017335 you know i
VHgTA2I5vo8-00055-00017336-00017503 this is where i need y'all like zach
VHgTA2I5vo8-00056-00017504-00017686 isn't around to help me out with this
VHgTA2I5vo8-00057-00017687-00017886 [__] so i need y'all in the comments to
VHgTA2I5vo8-00058-00017887-00018111 help me out with this
VHgTA2I5vo8-00059-00018112-00018335 when did she have these ears and what
VHgTA2I5vo8-00060-00018336-00018855 was the whole gimmick behind this
VHgTA2I5vo8-00061-00018856-00019055 that's pat martin
VHgTA2I5vo8-00062-00019056-00019354 i've been on this [__] before
VHgTA2I5vo8-00063-00019355-00019671 [Laughter]
VHgTA2I5vo8-00064-00019672-00020102 what
VHgTA2I5vo8-00065-00020103-00020414 [Music]
VHgTA2I5vo8-00066-00020415-00020599 i say what do you guys think i said
VHgTA2I5vo8-00067-00020600-00020863 because she's genuinely desperate
VHgTA2I5vo8-00068-00020864-00021194 completely different things i said
VHgTA2I5vo8-00069-00021195-00022238 [Music]
VHgTA2I5vo8-00070-00022239-00024878 [Music]
VHgTA2I5vo8-00071-00024879-00025078 yeah both of those things
VHgTA2I5vo8-00072-00025079-00026062 [Laughter]
VHgTA2I5vo8-00073-00026063-00026239 like sometimes you're just
VHgTA2I5vo8-00074-00026239-00026399 doing stuff in different areas of the
VHgTA2I5vo8-00075-00026400-00026558 map
VHgTA2I5vo8-00076-00026560-00026683 but like
VHgTA2I5vo8-00077-00026683-00026967 fortnite 20 42 all right good luck
VHgTA2I5vo8-00078-00026968-00027089 waiting for that gamer
VHgTA2I5vo8-00079-00027089-00027423 [Laughter]
VHgTA2I5vo8-00080-00027424-00027631 okay guys i go home i guess it's coming
VHgTA2I5vo8-00081-00027632-00027727 out
VHgTA2I5vo8-00082-00027727-00028158 i guess it's coming on 11 years away
VHgTA2I5vo8-00083-00028160-00028302 ame
VHgTA2I5vo8-00084-00028304-00028464 oh my god
VHgTA2I5vo8-00085-00028466-00028862 [Music]
VHgTA2I5vo8-00086-00028863-00029062 no it's not funny
VHgTA2I5vo8-00087-00029063-00029287 i'm just gonna keep calling you
VHgTA2I5vo8-00088-00029288-00029551 megan
VHgTA2I5vo8-00089-00029552-00029646 i
VHgTA2I5vo8-00090-00029647-00029911 i actually need to pause after that one
VHgTA2I5vo8-00091-00029912-00030367 like oh god i [__] it up no
VHgTA2I5vo8-00092-00030368-00030543 chill let me just
VHgTA2I5vo8-00093-00030544-00030887 collect my thoughts for a hot second
VHgTA2I5vo8-00094-00030888-00031487 i will show you guys what i created
VHgTA2I5vo8-00095-00031488-00031735 is that like it's me
VHgTA2I5vo8-00096-00031736-00031990 customized
VHgTA2I5vo8-00097-00031991-00033807 adjustments
VHgTA2I5vo8-00098-00033808-00034167 oh god oh man
VHgTA2I5vo8-00099-00034168-00034359 i didn't think that that was actually
VHgTA2I5vo8-00100-00034360-00034551 gonna happen if you don't remember like
VHgTA2I5vo8-00101-00034552-00034718 at one point in one of my rocks reacts
VHgTA2I5vo8-00102-00034719-00034999 videos was zack like uh we were talking
VHgTA2I5vo8-00103-00035000-00035215 like i think it was yeah pekko and
VHgTA2I5vo8-00104-00035216-00035487 someone else they were making fun of
VHgTA2I5vo8-00105-00035488-00035687 other v tubers saying that they were
VHgTA2I5vo8-00106-00035688-00035902 like i guess it was what was the word
VHgTA2I5vo8-00107-00035903-00036102 he-new something like that which
VHgTA2I5vo8-00108-00036103-00036327 apparently means flat-chested and they
VHgTA2I5vo8-00109-00036328-00036527 will say like if you call them that they
VHgTA2I5vo8-00110-00036528-00036671 will scream at you and say that they're
VHgTA2I5vo8-00111-00036672-00036815 boing boing
VHgTA2I5vo8-00112-00036816-00037543 because like
VHgTA2I5vo8-00113-00037544-00037745 i'm not gonna say it
VHgTA2I5vo8-00114-00037746-00038174 [Music]
VHgTA2I5vo8-00115-00038175-00038542 [Laughter]
VHgTA2I5vo8-00116-00038543-00038830 [Music]
VHgTA2I5vo8-00117-00038831-00039023 [Laughter]
VHgTA2I5vo8-00118-00039024-00039150 she's so
VHgTA2I5vo8-00119-00039151-00039283 [Music]
VHgTA2I5vo8-00120-00039284-00039599 sad oh my god a deadbeat is here rest in
VHgTA2I5vo8-00121-00039600-00039862 peace that's my song
VHgTA2I5vo8-00122-00039863-00040239 we love to see it can you see that
VHgTA2I5vo8-00123-00040240-00040502 hey oh i see your message
VHgTA2I5vo8-00124-00040503-00040679 hey
VHgTA2I5vo8-00125-00040680-00040958 hi callie hello watson why can't i
VHgTA2I5vo8-00126-00040959-00041390 respond this isn't fair honors
VHgTA2I5vo8-00127-00041391-00041790 i want to give you a witty reply
VHgTA2I5vo8-00128-00041791-00041999 you have to say i love ame it's the past
VHgTA2I5vo8-00129-00042000-00043343 with god damn it
VHgTA2I5vo8-00130-00043344-00043671 are the same words
VHgTA2I5vo8-00131-00043672-00043879 did you hear that [__]
VHgTA2I5vo8-00132-00043880-00044174 three two one and enjoy what [__]
VHgTA2I5vo8-00133-00044175-00044455 what [__] it's it's i love ame i have to
VHgTA2I5vo8-00134-00044456-00044774 say i love amazing so i love are the
VHgTA2I5vo8-00135-00044775-00045071 same words
VHgTA2I5vo8-00136-00045072-00045367 did you hear that [__]
VHgTA2I5vo8-00137-00045368-00045607 and in german we say
VHgTA2I5vo8-00138-00045608-00046046 al sweden
VHgTA2I5vo8-00139-00046047-00048639 yeah are you okay
VHgTA2I5vo8-00140-00048640-00049671 laughing at your face
VHgTA2I5vo8-00141-00049672-00049886 [Applause]
VHgTA2I5vo8-00142-00049887-00050118 just stomping on you my dog how do you
VHgTA2I5vo8-00143-00050119-00050262 feel
VHgTA2I5vo8-00144-00050263-00050671 it feels nice
VHgTA2I5vo8-00145-00050672-00051007 [Laughter]
VHgTA2I5vo8-00146-00051008-00051143 hey look i'm just saying what you guys
VHgTA2I5vo8-00147-00051144-00051545 say listen honestly oh absolutely
VHgTA2I5vo8-00148-00051546-00051654 [Music]
VHgTA2I5vo8-00149-00051655-00051838 absolutely don't even try to pretend you
VHgTA2I5vo8-00150-00051839-00052054 guys don't even try i see what you guys
VHgTA2I5vo8-00151-00052055-00052214 do too many people are saying i don't
VHgTA2I5vo8-00152-00052215-00052582 need the chat believe it or not
VHgTA2I5vo8-00153-00052583-00052807 what does this mean better use the whip
VHgTA2I5vo8-00154-00052808-00053263 the distance
VHgTA2I5vo8-00155-00053264-00053430 okay we got we got it
VHgTA2I5vo8-00156-00053432-00053591 yeah you know the whip is kind of like
VHgTA2I5vo8-00157-00053591-00053887 the second nature to me in a way
VHgTA2I5vo8-00158-00053888-00054191 let's see
VHgTA2I5vo8-00159-00054191-00054423 oh more people hello
VHgTA2I5vo8-00160-00054424-00054587 i am welcome to the pentaphone
VHgTA2I5vo8-00161-00054588-00054719 [Music]
VHgTA2I5vo8-00162-00054720-00054975 what because i control my tentacles
VHgTA2I5vo8-00163-00054976-00055199 not because i use a lid
VHgTA2I5vo8-00164-00055200-00055399 you sure
VHgTA2I5vo8-00165-00055400-00055654 you guys went straight to bottom left it
VHgTA2I5vo8-00166-00055655-00055911 was an express ticket you you said it to
VHgTA2I5vo8-00167-00055912-00057479 me too because i'm
VHgTA2I5vo8-00168-00057479-00058863 oh
VHgTA2I5vo8-00169-00058864-00059897 who's
VHgTA2I5vo8-00170-00059898-00060303 [Laughter]
VHgTA2I5vo8-00171-00060304-00060606 it's not supposed it's not funny it's
VHgTA2I5vo8-00172-00060607-00060926 not funny it's stop why didn't i notice
VHgTA2I5vo8-00173-00060927-00062430 this the first time of course it's funny
VHgTA2I5vo8-00174-00062432-00062550 you know what
VHgTA2I5vo8-00175-00062551-00062806 say no more you're here to see me
VHgTA2I5vo8-00176-00062807-00062975 come to the right place
VHgTA2I5vo8-00177-00062976-00063126 yeah
VHgTA2I5vo8-00178-00063127-00063189 hey
VHgTA2I5vo8-00179-00063190-00063591 [Laughter]
VHgTA2I5vo8-00180-00063591-00063694 uh
VHgTA2I5vo8-00181-00063695-00063871 how's that like
VHgTA2I5vo8-00182-00063872-00064142 yeah miku
VHgTA2I5vo8-00183-00064144-00064447 i'm here to see miku you'll see me
VHgTA2I5vo8-00184-00064448-00064750 my name is
VHgTA2I5vo8-00185-00064751-00064959 my hobby is cosplay
VHgTA2I5vo8-00186-00064960-00065271 like cosplaying hatsune miku on stream
VHgTA2I5vo8-00187-00065272-00065543 okay cosplay is my passion
VHgTA2I5vo8-00188-00065544-00065735 is that jack black
VHgTA2I5vo8-00189-00065736-00065903 or am i dumb
VHgTA2I5vo8-00190-00065904-00066119 i'm dumb i'm definitely dumb but like i
VHgTA2I5vo8-00191-00066120-00066223 don't know
VHgTA2I5vo8-00192-00066224-00066431 i'm soaking wet
VHgTA2I5vo8-00193-00066432-00067159 [Music]
VHgTA2I5vo8-00194-00067160-00067543 let me translate um uh i i asked her if
VHgTA2I5vo8-00195-00067544-00067750 um
VHgTA2I5vo8-00196-00067751-00068023 what did i ask i forgot them
VHgTA2I5vo8-00197-00068024-00068311 i asked i i asked her if if she already
VHgTA2I5vo8-00198-00068312-00068519 got rid of all of her hairs forever and
VHgTA2I5vo8-00199-00068520-00068638 never
VHgTA2I5vo8-00200-00068639-00068919 she said before pretty much everything
VHgTA2I5vo8-00201-00068920-00069135 is gone by now and i asked if she can
VHgTA2I5vo8-00202-00069136-00069343 show me she said yes and i asked if she
VHgTA2I5vo8-00203-00069344-00069615 can show me a picture and she said
VHgTA2I5vo8-00204-00069616-00069806 picture is a bit
VHgTA2I5vo8-00205-00069807-00069999 embarrassing
VHgTA2I5vo8-00206-00070000-00070255 so so she i asked how are you gonna show
VHgTA2I5vo8-00207-00070256-00070479 me that and she said i'll show you in
VHgTA2I5vo8-00208-00070480-00070694 real life i'll come to you i'll come to
VHgTA2I5vo8-00209-00070695-00070935 you and open up my legs and you can look
VHgTA2I5vo8-00210-00070936-00071550 at it oh wow super clean camel toe this
VHgTA2I5vo8-00211-00071551-00071806 she is trying to like censor herself and
VHgTA2I5vo8-00212-00071807-00071975 that it's just like nope
VHgTA2I5vo8-00213-00071976-00072182 i got a ballpoint-bedroom farmhouse with
VHgTA2I5vo8-00214-00072183-00072367 an attic that might be nice
VHgTA2I5vo8-00215-00072368-00072582 got an email from a friend kind of
VHgTA2I5vo8-00216-00072583-00072894 normal super super normal
VHgTA2I5vo8-00217-00072895-00073079 you look so cute right now
VHgTA2I5vo8-00218-00073080-00073567 oh i'm sorry i was so yawning
VHgTA2I5vo8-00219-00073568-00073735 it's adorable
VHgTA2I5vo8-00220-00073736-00073903 oh cute
VHgTA2I5vo8-00221-00073904-00074150 no this is my favorite
VHgTA2I5vo8-00222-00074151-00074247 hey
VHgTA2I5vo8-00223-00074248-00074503 sorry it's not funny except that it is
VHgTA2I5vo8-00224-00074504-00074711 i'm sorry i'm just gonna keep calling
VHgTA2I5vo8-00225-00074712-00074982 you megan kuhn
VHgTA2I5vo8-00226-00074983-00075129 well then
VHgTA2I5vo8-00227-00075130-00076494 [Music]
VHgTA2I5vo8-00228-00076495-00076704 you
VIieBit2c7U-00000-00000000-00000281 it reopened in 2017 with an event space
VIieBit2c7U-00001-00000282-00000563 building designed by office Sean it
VIieBit2c7U-00002-00000564-00000841 reopened in 2017 with an event space
VIieBit2c7U-00003-00000842-00001226 building designed by office Sean
VKVAXnfW3LI-00000-00000048-00000214 it's a chance
VKVAXnfW3LI-00001-00000215-00000495 a lasting event
VKVAXnfW3LI-00002-00000496-00000686 give me please
VKVAXnfW3LI-00003-00000687-00000958 your lonely hands
VKVAXnfW3LI-00004-00000959-00001103 something
VKVAXnfW3LI-00005-00001104-00001383 anyway one once
VKVAXnfW3LI-00006-00001384-00001582 will be see
VKVAXnfW3LI-00007-00001583-00001980 they might nice
VORk4oG65yc-00000-00000263-00000478 good morning and welcome to the sixth
VORk4oG65yc-00001-00000479-00000759 meeting of 2022 of the equalities human
VORk4oG65yc-00002-00000760-00001070 rights and civil justice committee
VORk4oG65yc-00003-00001071-00001319 first agenda item is to agree with to
VORk4oG65yc-00004-00001320-00001599 take item 3 in private which is
VORk4oG65yc-00005-00001600-00001871 consideration of today's evidence
VORk4oG65yc-00006-00001872-00002231 are we all agreed
VORk4oG65yc-00007-00002232-00002447 okay i see everyone nodding that is
VORk4oG65yc-00008-00002448-00002550 agreed
VORk4oG65yc-00009-00002551-00002839 the next um agenda item therefore is to
VORk4oG65yc-00010-00002840-00003095 continue taking evidence on women's
VORk4oG65yc-00011-00003096-00003319 unfair responsibility for unpaid care
VORk4oG65yc-00012-00003320-00003479 and domestic work
VORk4oG65yc-00013-00003479-00003670 this virtual roundtable session will
VORk4oG65yc-00014-00003671-00003935 have an intersectional focus on race and
VORk4oG65yc-00015-00003936-00004111 i welcome to the meeting
VORk4oG65yc-00016-00004112-00004431 para farzana race equality mainstreaming
VORk4oG65yc-00017-00004432-00004759 officer at steamville gotland
VORk4oG65yc-00018-00004760-00005031 maryam ahmed chief executive officer
VORk4oG65yc-00019-00005032-00005327 amina the muslim women's resource centre
VORk4oG65yc-00020-00005328-00005638 trishna singh obe director of sikh
VORk4oG65yc-00021-00005639-00005783 sanjong
VORk4oG65yc-00022-00005784-00005886 sorry
VORk4oG65yc-00023-00005887-00006199 joy lewis chief executive officer aai
VORk4oG65yc-00024-00006200-00006567 employability and sarah mendel
VORk4oG65yc-00025-00006568-00006959 amen jiminess and member of nes uwt
VORk4oG65yc-00026-00006959-00007295 equality advisory group an event refer
VORk4oG65yc-00027-00007295-00007719 our members to papers one and two
VORk4oG65yc-00028-00007720-00007910 as we have a number of witnesses today
VORk4oG65yc-00029-00007911-00008087 can i please ask members to indicate
VORk4oG65yc-00030-00008088-00008214 which witness they are initially
VORk4oG65yc-00031-00008215-00008487 directing your question to and then open
VORk4oG65yc-00032-00008488-00008646 the floor to other witnesses for
VORk4oG65yc-00033-00008647-00008774 comments
VORk4oG65yc-00034-00008775-00008919 keen for the session to be as
VORk4oG65yc-00035-00008920-00009119 free-flowing as possible in this virtual
VORk4oG65yc-00036-00009120-00009351 format so if other witnesses wish to
VORk4oG65yc-00037-00009352-00009583 respond to a question or to follow up on
VORk4oG65yc-00038-00009584-00009799 a point made by another witness please
VORk4oG65yc-00039-00009800-00010039 can ask them to indicate that by typing
VORk4oG65yc-00040-00010040-00010303 r in the chat function on bluejeans and
VORk4oG65yc-00041-00010304-00010535 i'll bring you in if time permits
VORk4oG65yc-00042-00010536-00010678 you're merely agreeing with what other
VORk4oG65yc-00043-00010679-00010823 members saying there's no need to
VORk4oG65yc-00044-00010824-00011078 intervene to say so
VORk4oG65yc-00045-00011079-00011287 members can also use the chat function
VORk4oG65yc-00046-00011288-00011591 on bluejeans if they wish to intervene
VORk4oG65yc-00047-00011592-00011799 at the end of the session if any of the
VORk4oG65yc-00048-00011800-00011974 witnesses feel that there are
VORk4oG65yc-00049-00011975-00012174 outstanding points they wish to address
VORk4oG65yc-00050-00012175-00012374 please follow this up in writing and
VORk4oG65yc-00051-00012375-00012567 committee will take that evidence into
VORk4oG65yc-00052-00012568-00012807 your account too so i now invite each of
VORk4oG65yc-00053-00012808-00012991 our witnesses to make a short opening
VORk4oG65yc-00054-00012991-00013199 statement starting with farah farzana
VORk4oG65yc-00055-00013200-00013758 please
VORk4oG65yc-00056-00013759-00014079 good morning and thank you very much for
VORk4oG65yc-00057-00014080-00014375 this opportunity to provide evidence on
VORk4oG65yc-00058-00014376-00014607 women's unfair responsibility for unpaid
VORk4oG65yc-00059-00014608-00014807 care and domestic work
VORk4oG65yc-00060-00014808-00015038 so i'm here on behalf of symbol scotland
VORk4oG65yc-00061-00015040-00015199 which is a national intermediary
VORk4oG65yc-00062-00015200-00015415 organisation and also a strategic
VORk4oG65yc-00063-00015416-00015558 partner on the scottish government
VORk4oG65yc-00064-00015559-00015727 equality unit
VORk4oG65yc-00065-00015728-00015950 the aim of assemble scotland is to build
VORk4oG65yc-00066-00015951-00016127 the capacity of ethnic minority
VORk4oG65yc-00067-00016128-00016511 voluntary sector and its communities
VORk4oG65yc-00068-00016512-00016735 we have a network of over 600 ethnic
VORk4oG65yc-00069-00016736-00016903 minority organizations throughout
VORk4oG65yc-00070-00016904-00017127 scotland to which we deliver a wide
VORk4oG65yc-00071-00017128-00017311 range of capacity building support
VORk4oG65yc-00072-00017312-00017430 programs
VORk4oG65yc-00073-00017431-00017591 our current programmes
VORk4oG65yc-00074-00017592-00017799 include providing social enterprise
VORk4oG65yc-00075-00017800-00018007 development support to ethnic minority
VORk4oG65yc-00076-00018008-00018239 groups and social entrepreneurs
VORk4oG65yc-00077-00018240-00018439 providing race equality and human rights
VORk4oG65yc-00078-00018440-00018679 mainstreaming support to public
VORk4oG65yc-00079-00018680-00018983 statutory and third sex organizations
VORk4oG65yc-00080-00018984-00019111 increasing ethnic minority
VORk4oG65yc-00081-00019112-00019367 representation on public boards
VORk4oG65yc-00082-00019368-00019575 developing and supporting a scottish
VORk4oG65yc-00083-00019576-00019822 national ethnic minority women's network
VORk4oG65yc-00084-00019823-00020030 for peer support and influencing social
VORk4oG65yc-00085-00020031-00020175 policy
VORk4oG65yc-00086-00020176-00020358 developing and supporting an ethnic
VORk4oG65yc-00087-00020359-00020622 minority environmental network
VORk4oG65yc-00088-00020623-00020886 to engage in climate change policy
VORk4oG65yc-00089-00020887-00021167 and providing employability support
VORk4oG65yc-00090-00021168-00021375 to ethnic minority young people
VORk4oG65yc-00091-00021376-00021591 and building capac organizational
VORk4oG65yc-00092-00021592-00021783 capacity to ethnic minority groups in
VORk4oG65yc-00093-00021784-00022039 and around glasgow region
VORk4oG65yc-00094-00022040-00022278 through all of our areas of work
VORk4oG65yc-00095-00022279-00022511 this gives us an ample opportunity to
VORk4oG65yc-00096-00022512-00022743 continuously engage extensively with
VORk4oG65yc-00097-00022744-00022975 ethnic minority sector and gather
VORk4oG65yc-00098-00022976-00023222 information on the needs and concerns
VORk4oG65yc-00099-00023223-00023494 affecting ethnic minority communities
VORk4oG65yc-00100-00023495-00023663 and this in turn helps to inform our
VORk4oG65yc-00101-00023664-00023830 response to the development of national
VORk4oG65yc-00102-00023831-00023991 and local policies and to public
VORk4oG65yc-00103-00023992-00024263 consultations such as my presence here
VORk4oG65yc-00104-00024264-00024471 today
VORk4oG65yc-00105-00024472-00024967 i also am a member of a
VORk4oG65yc-00106-00024968-00025119 organizational charity which i
VORk4oG65yc-00107-00025120-00025430 co-founded with my sister back in 2014
VORk4oG65yc-00108-00025431-00025767 called al-massar um where we
VORk4oG65yc-00109-00025768-00026055 started because of a need of support to
VORk4oG65yc-00110-00026056-00026206 ethnic minority families within the
VORk4oG65yc-00111-00026207-00026407 fourth valley area
VORk4oG65yc-00112-00026408-00026599 over the the period of lockdown so this
VORk4oG65yc-00113-00026600-00026767 was prior to me beginning with the
VORk4oG65yc-00114-00026768-00026895 assemble
VORk4oG65yc-00115-00026895-00026974 and
VORk4oG65yc-00116-00026975-00027158 prior to lockdown i was heavily involved
VORk4oG65yc-00117-00027160-00027367 with supporting ethnic minority families
VORk4oG65yc-00118-00027368-00027535 particularly mothers
VORk4oG65yc-00119-00027536-00027870 um during various
VORk4oG65yc-00120-00027872-00028023 responsibilities that they had to
VORk4oG65yc-00121-00028024-00028231 undertake and that included emotional
VORk4oG65yc-00122-00028232-00028327 support
VORk4oG65yc-00123-00028327-00028623 and physical support and and obviously
VORk4oG65yc-00124-00028624-00028783 peer to peer and making sure that they
VORk4oG65yc-00125-00028783-00028951 were they they felt that they were
VORk4oG65yc-00126-00028952-00029246 comfortable and safe especially with in
VORk4oG65yc-00127-00029247-00029518 declining mental health
VORk4oG65yc-00128-00029519-00029799 thank you very much
VORk4oG65yc-00129-00029800-00029935 thank you farah
VORk4oG65yc-00130-00029936-00030590 can i go to mariam ahmed please
VORk4oG65yc-00131-00030591-00030751 good morning everyone thank you so much
VORk4oG65yc-00132-00030752-00031070 for inviting me to this committee um
VORk4oG65yc-00133-00031072-00031295 so my name is miriam and i am the chief
VORk4oG65yc-00134-00031295-00031631 executive of amina um which is a muslim
VORk4oG65yc-00135-00031632-00031951 and bme women's rights organization and
VORk4oG65yc-00136-00031952-00032231 we're leading grassroots organization um
VORk4oG65yc-00137-00032232-00032439 in our special services aim to fill a
VORk4oG65yc-00138-00032439-00032751 gap in scotland so women can participate
VORk4oG65yc-00139-00032752-00033031 fully in society without fear of
VORk4oG65yc-00140-00033032-00033174 discrimination
VORk4oG65yc-00141-00033175-00033495 um we offer a range of services from our
VORk4oG65yc-00142-00033496-00033735 national helpline for women in crisis
VORk4oG65yc-00143-00033736-00033999 are befriending service employability
VORk4oG65yc-00144-00034000-00034295 guidance financial inclusion violence
VORk4oG65yc-00145-00034296-00034495 against women campaigning creative arts
VORk4oG65yc-00146-00034496-00034751 as well as financial inclusion
VORk4oG65yc-00147-00034752-00034990 casework and women's rights case work
VORk4oG65yc-00148-00034991-00035215 with that being said bme women still
VORk4oG65yc-00149-00035216-00035383 remain the most vulnerable in our
VORk4oG65yc-00150-00035384-00035671 society experiencing multiple levels of
VORk4oG65yc-00151-00035672-00035959 discrimination um where
VORk4oG65yc-00152-00035960-00036151 what we find is racial inequality
VORk4oG65yc-00153-00036152-00036430 intersex is gender inequality bme women
VORk4oG65yc-00154-00036431-00036639 are still facing additional barriers to
VORk4oG65yc-00155-00036640-00036999 support of services and accessing
VORk4oG65yc-00156-00037000-00037246 economic resources um
VORk4oG65yc-00157-00037247-00037455 so actually being in this committee what
VORk4oG65yc-00158-00037456-00037639 i would say is is that the work that
VORk4oG65yc-00159-00037640-00037839 women have been doing
VORk4oG65yc-00160-00037840-00038223 still remains to be undervalued um you
VORk4oG65yc-00161-00038224-00038462 know a lot of bme women we found that we
VORk4oG65yc-00162-00038463-00038662 were supporting we're already doing what
VORk4oG65yc-00163-00038663-00038862 we would call the lion's share of
VORk4oG65yc-00164-00038863-00039071 domestic chores looking after the
VORk4oG65yc-00165-00039072-00039471 children being unpaid carers but with
VORk4oG65yc-00166-00039472-00039662 with the pandemic within strict
VORk4oG65yc-00167-00039663-00039918 restrictions we found that existing
VORk4oG65yc-00168-00039919-00040151 inequalities had deepened um and there
VORk4oG65yc-00169-00040152-00040383 were certain factors towards that woman
VORk4oG65yc-00170-00040384-00040679 facing more poverty financial hardship
VORk4oG65yc-00171-00040680-00040958 and their leisure time struggling to
VORk4oG65yc-00172-00040959-00041174 cope not having wi-fi so there was a
VORk4oG65yc-00173-00041175-00041327 range of things that happened within
VORk4oG65yc-00174-00041328-00041518 amna that we supported so i'm looking
VORk4oG65yc-00175-00041519-00041735 forward to within today's committee
VORk4oG65yc-00176-00041736-00042083 hearing providing a bit more evidence on
VORk4oG65yc-00177-00042084-00042383 this thank you mariam and now we can
VORk4oG65yc-00178-00042384-00042815 hear from trishna singh please
VORk4oG65yc-00179-00042816-00043055 thank you very much for inviting us to
VORk4oG65yc-00180-00043056-00043383 speak at this um
VORk4oG65yc-00181-00043384-00043599 six and six in dog has been running for
VORk4oG65yc-00182-00043600-00043902 35 years and we are the only seat family
VORk4oG65yc-00183-00043903-00044143 support charity in scotland
VORk4oG65yc-00184-00044144-00044383 and our focus has always been is linking
VORk4oG65yc-00185-00044384-00044583 one seek women and other ethnic
VORk4oG65yc-00186-00044584-00044823 minorities into every all the social
VORk4oG65yc-00187-00044824-00045095 educational and employment opportunities
VORk4oG65yc-00188-00045096-00045335 but we've been bridging that gap for 35
VORk4oG65yc-00189-00045336-00045558 years and we know from our experience
VORk4oG65yc-00190-00045559-00045823 that there are so many women from the
VORk4oG65yc-00191-00045824-00046007 sikh community and from other
VORk4oG65yc-00192-00046008-00046223 communities who are still just
VORk4oG65yc-00193-00046224-00046446 sitting on the fringes waiting for them
VORk4oG65yc-00194-00046447-00046671 to be able to access mainstream support
VORk4oG65yc-00195-00046672-00046911 whether that be in employment or looking
VORk4oG65yc-00196-00046912-00047199 at caring services um there's not many
VORk4oG65yc-00197-00047200-00047535 of them that access any of the carers or
VORk4oG65yc-00198-00047536-00047735 groups that are out there and so we find
VORk4oG65yc-00199-00047736-00047990 that we are bridging that gap working
VORk4oG65yc-00200-00047991-00048223 with these women and over the years
VORk4oG65yc-00201-00048224-00048399 we've developed into an organization
VORk4oG65yc-00202-00048400-00048630 that's been providing holistic and
VORk4oG65yc-00203-00048631-00048871 intersectional services and we are that
VORk4oG65yc-00204-00048872-00049167 gap between maintenance stream services
VORk4oG65yc-00205-00049168-00049423 and even policy makers but we know from
VORk4oG65yc-00206-00049424-00049583 a very young age when we're speaking
VORk4oG65yc-00207-00049584-00049758 about the sikh community it's not
VORk4oG65yc-00208-00049759-00050079 visible and any of the larger research
VORk4oG65yc-00209-00050080-00050199 projects that have been done on
VORk4oG65yc-00210-00050200-00050423 consultations and we have found over the
VORk4oG65yc-00211-00050424-00050735 past 10 years or so it's been the role
VORk4oG65yc-00212-00050736-00050911 of sikhs in job to make sure that those
VORk4oG65yc-00213-00050912-00051079 voices are heard
VORk4oG65yc-00214-00051080-00051270 and we know that from a many very young
VORk4oG65yc-00215-00051271-00051430 age seek women have had a completely
VORk4oG65yc-00216-00051432-00051614 different upbringing compared to their
VORk4oG65yc-00217-00051615-00051863 white scottish peers so you know women
VORk4oG65yc-00218-00051864-00052023 are left to juggle both the domestic
VORk4oG65yc-00219-00052024-00052311 life work and the commitments of looking
VORk4oG65yc-00220-00052312-00052559 after or caring for people at home
VORk4oG65yc-00221-00052560-00052854 whether it be children with disabilities
VORk4oG65yc-00222-00052855-00053150 or elderly belgian family members and
VORk4oG65yc-00223-00053151-00053342 that's something that although is being
VORk4oG65yc-00224-00053344-00053615 raised now um we know that women have
VORk4oG65yc-00225-00053616-00053807 been living with those kind of issues
VORk4oG65yc-00226-00053808-00054103 for well over 30 40 years
VORk4oG65yc-00227-00054104-00054294 so i'm looking forward to
VORk4oG65yc-00228-00054295-00054679 answering any questions that come up
VORk4oG65yc-00229-00054679-00054871 thank you trishna and we can now hear
VORk4oG65yc-00230-00054872-00055694 from joy lewis please
VORk4oG65yc-00231-00055695-00055894 thank you thank you and thank you for
VORk4oG65yc-00232-00055895-00056159 inviting me here today
VORk4oG65yc-00233-00056160-00056326 i am pleased to be able to give evidence
VORk4oG65yc-00234-00056327-00056575 on behalf of adopt an intern now trading
VORk4oG65yc-00235-00056576-00056847 as aai employability
VORk4oG65yc-00236-00056848-00057079 we started 12 years ago promoting and
VORk4oG65yc-00237-00057079-00057366 facilitating paid internships we now
VORk4oG65yc-00238-00057367-00057566 include a variety of inclusive
VORk4oG65yc-00239-00057567-00057742 recruitment services
VORk4oG65yc-00240-00057744-00058063 and as a social enterprise we attract a
VORk4oG65yc-00241-00058064-00058350 large following of women returners and
VORk4oG65yc-00242-00058351-00058654 diversity in all its forms
VORk4oG65yc-00243-00058655-00058854 we also work with government through
VORk4oG65yc-00244-00058855-00059119 grants to support minority ethnic women
VORk4oG65yc-00245-00059120-00059271 into work
VORk4oG65yc-00246-00059272-00059487 our access to employers is key to the
VORk4oG65yc-00247-00059488-00059750 success of our programs as it ensures
VORk4oG65yc-00248-00059751-00059942 networking and the breaking down of
VORk4oG65yc-00249-00059944-00060238 perceived barriers on both sides
VORk4oG65yc-00250-00060239-00060479 since cobia we have delivered three such
VORk4oG65yc-00251-00060479-00060806 programs adapting them for our changed
VORk4oG65yc-00252-00060807-00061006 world
VORk4oG65yc-00253-00061007-00061191 it is known that unfair domestic and
VORk4oG65yc-00254-00061191-00061415 caring responsibilities are a result of
VORk4oG65yc-00255-00061416-00061726 societal norms but a study by the faucet
VORk4oG65yc-00256-00061727-00061894 society confirmed that around three
VORk4oG65yc-00257-00061895-00062063 quarters of minority ethnic women
VORk4oG65yc-00258-00062064-00062287 reported doing the majority of the
VORk4oG65yc-00259-00062288-00062550 housework or child care during lockdown
VORk4oG65yc-00260-00062551-00062766 our own minority ethnic audience tend to
VORk4oG65yc-00261-00062767-00063071 be highly qualified women who through no
VORk4oG65yc-00262-00063072-00063254 fault of their own feel undervalued and
VORk4oG65yc-00263-00063255-00063415 lack confidence
VORk4oG65yc-00264-00063416-00063735 the pademic hits and they find
VORk4oG65yc-00265-00063736-00063982 themselves in a new country within
VORk4oG65yc-00266-00063983-00064135 perfect english
VORk4oG65yc-00267-00064136-00064303 no support system
VORk4oG65yc-00268-00064304-00064494 children to be home schooled in a
VORk4oG65yc-00269-00064495-00064638 foreign language
VORk4oG65yc-00270-00064639-00064854 and going out shopping holds its own
VORk4oG65yc-00271-00064855-00065135 fears with minority ethnic people more
VORk4oG65yc-00272-00065136-00065415 susceptible to coded
VORk4oG65yc-00273-00065416-00065623 issues with digital access and no
VORk4oG65yc-00274-00065624-00065855 recourse to public funds all added to
VORk4oG65yc-00275-00065856-00066167 the nightmare for these women
VORk4oG65yc-00276-00066168-00066343 community support wasn't ready and when
VORk4oG65yc-00277-00066344-00066550 the third sector did manage to reach out
VORk4oG65yc-00278-00066551-00066799 there was no centralized channel
VORk4oG65yc-00279-00066800-00067023 which was often their place of face
VORk4oG65yc-00280-00067024-00067271 which was closed
VORk4oG65yc-00281-00067272-00067479 we are not a research or umbrella
VORk4oG65yc-00282-00067480-00067694 organization the evidence i present
VORk4oG65yc-00283-00067695-00067894 today is based on our experience of
VORk4oG65yc-00284-00067895-00068079 working closely with minority ethnic
VORk4oG65yc-00285-00068080-00068311 women on their employment journey
VORk4oG65yc-00286-00068312-00068526 right now we are working with 60 on the
VORk4oG65yc-00287-00068527-00068750 latest women returners project funded by
VORk4oG65yc-00288-00068751-00068847 government
VORk4oG65yc-00289-00068848-00069079 and the majority have an honours or
VORk4oG65yc-00290-00069080-00069319 doctoral degree
VORk4oG65yc-00291-00069320-00069591 minority ethnic women in work
VORk4oG65yc-00292-00069592-00069799 were more likely to be followed and more
VORk4oG65yc-00293-00069800-00069959 likely to lose their jobs than white
VORk4oG65yc-00294-00069960-00070206 women the loss of financial security and
VORk4oG65yc-00295-00070207-00070406 the feeling of being undervalued at both
VORk4oG65yc-00296-00070407-00070719 work and home was exacerbated by having
VORk4oG65yc-00297-00070720-00070975 nowhere to go for support and guidance
VORk4oG65yc-00298-00070976-00071191 the extreme loss of confidence and
VORk4oG65yc-00299-00071192-00071487 self-belief that followed left them open
VORk4oG65yc-00300-00071488-00071703 to mental health issues
VORk4oG65yc-00301-00071704-00072006 downward spiral was created which now
VORk4oG65yc-00302-00072007-00072238 must be reversed not just because it's
VORk4oG65yc-00303-00072239-00072423 the right thing to do but because
VORk4oG65yc-00304-00072424-00072694 fundamentally scotland needs this
VORk4oG65yc-00305-00072695-00072919 incredible talent
VORk4oG65yc-00306-00072920-00073071 thank you
VORk4oG65yc-00307-00073072-00073303 thank you joy and if you now go to sarah
VORk4oG65yc-00308-00073304-00073655 mendel jimenez oh no stop don't move hi
VORk4oG65yc-00309-00073656-00073862 there hi good morning thank you for
VORk4oG65yc-00310-00073863-00074006 having me here
VORk4oG65yc-00311-00074007-00074262 um i'm sorry i'm a teacher
VORk4oG65yc-00312-00074263-00074406 and you can you will probably hear my
VORk4oG65yc-00313-00074407-00074711 class leaving very quietly
VORk4oG65yc-00314-00074712-00075094 so um so yes i'm a member of the nsa ut
VORk4oG65yc-00315-00075095-00075287 you can live very quietly class thank
VORk4oG65yc-00316-00075288-00075655 you i'm a member of the nsdut and also
VORk4oG65yc-00317-00075656-00076311 uh black members committee and worker
VORk4oG65yc-00318-00076312-00076550 thank you class sorry this is what women
VORk4oG65yc-00319-00076551-00076750 have to do this is a perfect example of
VORk4oG65yc-00320-00076751-00076999 what women have to do we have to juggle
VORk4oG65yc-00321-00077000-00077119 everything
VORk4oG65yc-00322-00077120-00077335 children other people's children au
VORk4oG65yc-00323-00077336-00077623 revoir
VORk4oG65yc-00324-00077624-00077806 bye-bye class
VORk4oG65yc-00325-00077807-00077975 i'll start as they leave i don't want to
VORk4oG65yc-00326-00077976-00078159 make them late for their next class
VORk4oG65yc-00327-00078160-00078359 bye-bye class okay just take just take
VORk4oG65yc-00328-00078360-00078535 some time it's fine
VORk4oG65yc-00329-00078536-00078711 this is a good good example props are
VORk4oG65yc-00330-00078712-00078831 always allowed
VORk4oG65yc-00331-00078832-00079062 this is an excellent example i think if
VORk4oG65yc-00332-00079063-00079271 i if i look at my life in lockdown this
VORk4oG65yc-00333-00079272-00079550 is what's also an excellent example uh
VORk4oG65yc-00334-00079551-00079838 you know my husband and i uh we had a
VORk4oG65yc-00335-00079839-00080071 young child doing lockdown
VORk4oG65yc-00336-00080072-00080262 before logged and i actually started and
VORk4oG65yc-00337-00080263-00080471 my maternity leave that i had saved for
VORk4oG65yc-00338-00080472-00080743 so long for to just have that time with
VORk4oG65yc-00339-00080744-00081006 my baby was totally scrapped
VORk4oG65yc-00340-00081007-00081335 by lockdown you know many of us teachers
VORk4oG65yc-00341-00081336-00081526 we were forced to come back to work
VORk4oG65yc-00342-00081527-00081726 earlier that we want to
VORk4oG65yc-00343-00081727-00081982 i have some statistics here from the big
VORk4oG65yc-00344-00081983-00082167 survey question this is a survey that
VORk4oG65yc-00345-00082168-00082423 the nsa wt
VORk4oG65yc-00346-00082424-00082623 does women were far more likely to be
VORk4oG65yc-00347-00082624-00082823 doing at least more on-site teaching
VORk4oG65yc-00348-00082824-00083062 during lockdowns 60
VORk4oG65yc-00349-00083063-00083215 versus 50
VORk4oG65yc-00350-00083216-00083391 women are more likely to have received
VORk4oG65yc-00351-00083392-00083631 criticism from parents 30
VORk4oG65yc-00352-00083632-00083935 versus their 26 counterparts we are seen
VORk4oG65yc-00353-00083936-00084287 as a soft target sometimes
VORk4oG65yc-00354-00084288-00084567 twenty percent uh we twenty percent of
VORk4oG65yc-00355-00084568-00084799 women over fifteen percent of men
VORk4oG65yc-00356-00084800-00085111 receive verbal abuse from parents
VORk4oG65yc-00357-00085112-00085287 women were also more likely to say that
VORk4oG65yc-00358-00085288-00085526 their workload had increased sixty
VORk4oG65yc-00359-00085527-00085750 percent over 51.
VORk4oG65yc-00360-00085751-00085935 i think
VORk4oG65yc-00361-00085936-00086135 overall as women we
VORk4oG65yc-00362-00086136-00086550 were we're seen as
VORk4oG65yc-00363-00086551-00086823 as beings that can just take it all and
VORk4oG65yc-00364-00086824-00087055 it's just and we can't because
VORk4oG65yc-00365-00087056-00087662 um 88 versus 76 of um of teachers we
VORk4oG65yc-00366-00087663-00087975 female teachers felt that anxiety
VORk4oG65yc-00367-00087976-00088262 59 said that flexible working hours were
VORk4oG65yc-00368-00088263-00088503 impossible my employer today was very
VORk4oG65yc-00369-00088504-00088687 happy to give me time but of course
VORk4oG65yc-00370-00088688-00088926 other female colleagues were actually
VORk4oG65yc-00371-00088927-00089135 ill with covet there was nowhere to put
VORk4oG65yc-00372-00089136-00089543 these children unfortunately um
VORk4oG65yc-00373-00089544-00089831 half almost half 49 so they were not
VORk4oG65yc-00374-00089832-00090055 aware of any policies of processes at
VORk4oG65yc-00375-00090056-00090287 the workplace that would actually um
VORk4oG65yc-00376-00090288-00090438 help them deal with the problem of
VORk4oG65yc-00377-00090439-00090775 increasing sexual harassment both from
VORk4oG65yc-00378-00090776-00091038 staff and pupils
VORk4oG65yc-00379-00091039-00091118 and
VORk4oG65yc-00380-00091119-00091367 through my work of the um at the
VORk4oG65yc-00381-00091368-00091535 scottish trade union congress the black
VORk4oG65yc-00382-00091536-00091735 members committee
VORk4oG65yc-00383-00091736-00091982 um i've also become more aware of their
VORk4oG65yc-00384-00091983-00092238 intersectionality
VORk4oG65yc-00385-00092239-00092350 and it's just
VORk4oG65yc-00386-00092351-00092550 heartbreaking to see you know muslin
VORk4oG65yc-00387-00092551-00092791 colleagues that are really trying to to
VORk4oG65yc-00388-00092792-00092991 climb this corporate ladder and and they
VORk4oG65yc-00389-00092992-00093167 can't because they feel that they the
VORk4oG65yc-00390-00093168-00093335 environments we have they're so male
VORk4oG65yc-00391-00093336-00093631 dominated that they just can't
VORk4oG65yc-00392-00093632-00093871 um go to the pub on a friday afternoon
VORk4oG65yc-00393-00093872-00094071 and build those relationships
VORk4oG65yc-00394-00094072-00094311 i myself with a small child um and with
VORk4oG65yc-00395-00094312-00094606 zero interest in football i feel like i
VORk4oG65yc-00396-00094607-00094918 can't have a conversation with senior
VORk4oG65yc-00397-00094919-00095126 management sometimes because it's male
VORk4oG65yc-00398-00095127-00095282 dominated again
VORk4oG65yc-00399-00095283-00095518 um and
VORk4oG65yc-00400-00095519-00095759 there's just so much to do so much to do
VORk4oG65yc-00401-00095760-00095982 and i keep the faith i really do but
VORk4oG65yc-00402-00095983-00096247 sometimes when you look at the evidence
VORk4oG65yc-00403-00096248-00096367 you just
VORk4oG65yc-00404-00096368-00096615 you just don't know where to start
VORk4oG65yc-00405-00096616-00096767 and that's all i can say for now thank
VORk4oG65yc-00406-00096768-00096967 you
VORk4oG65yc-00407-00096968-00097150 thank you very much hank the
VORk4oG65yc-00408-00097151-00097343 the the boys club is something we all
VORk4oG65yc-00409-00097344-00097559 need to be very alert to
VORk4oG65yc-00410-00097560-00097767 in in in just in daily life because
VORk4oG65yc-00411-00097768-00097911 sometimes it's not not a deliberate
VORk4oG65yc-00412-00097912-00098159 thing but um yeah you make a good point
VORk4oG65yc-00413-00098160-00098238 there
VORk4oG65yc-00414-00098239-00098447 so thanks thanks everyone for for your
VORk4oG65yc-00415-00098448-00098726 comments when i want to move on to um
VORk4oG65yc-00416-00098727-00098967 questions and from the
VORk4oG65yc-00417-00098968-00099174 um committee members and about the
VORk4oG65yc-00418-00099175-00099447 discussion and as i said earlier if
VORk4oG65yc-00419-00099448-00099662 the members will will suggest who they
VORk4oG65yc-00420-00099663-00099823 think they want to hear from first but
VORk4oG65yc-00421-00099824-00100047 if you want to respond to a particular
VORk4oG65yc-00422-00100048-00100262 question as well of you who are in the
VORk4oG65yc-00423-00100263-00100511 chat so moving to maggie chapman first
VORk4oG65yc-00424-00100512-00100815 please
VORk4oG65yc-00425-00100816-00100967 thank you very much joe good morning
VORk4oG65yc-00426-00100968-00101174 everyone and thank you to the panel
VORk4oG65yc-00427-00101175-00101415 members for being with us this morning i
VORk4oG65yc-00428-00101416-00101711 appreciate that juggling i'm juggling
VORk4oG65yc-00429-00101712-00101991 various things it's not
VORk4oG65yc-00430-00101992-00102150 i appreciate the time that that you've
VORk4oG65yc-00431-00102151-00102406 taken to to give us evidence uh this
VORk4oG65yc-00432-00102407-00102590 morning i've i've got a couple of
VORk4oG65yc-00433-00102591-00102871 questions if if i may um
VORk4oG65yc-00434-00102872-00103118 we we've heard the media has reported
VORk4oG65yc-00435-00103119-00103318 and indeed many of you have mentioned
VORk4oG65yc-00436-00103319-00103471 this morning of the disproportionate
VORk4oG65yc-00437-00103472-00103710 impacts of covid on
VORk4oG65yc-00438-00103711-00104102 women on bame women particularly and i
VORk4oG65yc-00439-00104103-00104334 suppose there's that that there's the
VORk4oG65yc-00440-00104335-00104639 complexities that that i'm i'm trying to
VORk4oG65yc-00441-00104640-00104790 i'm interested in in trying to
VORk4oG65yc-00442-00104791-00104919 understand
VORk4oG65yc-00443-00104920-00105063 how how
VORk4oG65yc-00444-00105064-00105407 bame women experienced those uh
VORk4oG65yc-00445-00105408-00105623 disproportional susceptibilities to
VORk4oG65yc-00446-00105624-00105902 covert disproportional financial burdens
VORk4oG65yc-00447-00105903-00106071 um i i think it was my own you talked
VORk4oG65yc-00448-00106072-00106271 about digital poverty and that the lack
VORk4oG65yc-00449-00106272-00106527 of digital connectivity and
VORk4oG65yc-00450-00106528-00106686 therefore the knock-on consequences for
VORk4oG65yc-00451-00106688-00107015 that so so if i can if i can come to you
VORk4oG65yc-00452-00107016-00107286 miriam first um could you say a little
VORk4oG65yc-00453-00107288-00107527 bit more about the the personal
VORk4oG65yc-00454-00107528-00107719 experiences of some of the women that
VORk4oG65yc-00455-00107720-00107919 you supported and that you and amina
VORk4oG65yc-00456-00107920-00108039 have worked with
VORk4oG65yc-00457-00108040-00108463 how how did the lockdown that the the
VORk4oG65yc-00458-00108464-00108719 the restrictions placed on on society as
VORk4oG65yc-00459-00108720-00108975 a whole how what were the the women's
VORk4oG65yc-00460-00108976-00109215 experiences in terms of their their
VORk4oG65yc-00461-00109216-00109439 ability to maintain
VORk4oG65yc-00462-00109440-00109734 any kind of work-life balance um and
VORk4oG65yc-00463-00109735-00109951 importantly on on their mental health
VORk4oG65yc-00464-00109952-00110095 and i'll i'll i've got another question
VORk4oG65yc-00465-00110096-00110295 after that i'll come to miriam first
VORk4oG65yc-00466-00110296-00110599 thank you
VORk4oG65yc-00467-00110600-00110839 thank you maggie for your question
VORk4oG65yc-00468-00110840-00111071 um okay so i think if we kind of go
VORk4oG65yc-00469-00111072-00111286 pre-lock down before lockdown and
VORk4oG65yc-00470-00111288-00111471 everything started we were already kind
VORk4oG65yc-00471-00111472-00111751 of on an unequal fitting so i would say
VORk4oG65yc-00472-00111752-00111958 that bmu women would already said we're
VORk4oG65yc-00473-00111959-00112190 already unequal within society but
VORk4oG65yc-00474-00112191-00112383 really what does that look like once the
VORk4oG65yc-00475-00112383-00112639 pandemic had started um i would always
VORk4oG65yc-00476-00112640-00112823 say that the women and the women that
VORk4oG65yc-00477-00112824-00112999 we've supported have already always done
VORk4oG65yc-00478-00113000-00113166 the lion's share of work when it comes
VORk4oG65yc-00479-00113167-00113375 to household chores and i think that's
VORk4oG65yc-00480-00113376-00113543 been those kind of real traditional
VORk4oG65yc-00481-00113544-00113743 gender roles have always been there you
VORk4oG65yc-00482-00113744-00113927 know where maybe if she is if the woman
VORk4oG65yc-00483-00113928-00114078 is going out to work she's still
VORk4oG65yc-00484-00114079-00114295 expected to come home and do all the
VORk4oG65yc-00485-00114296-00114599 housework but adding on to homeschooling
VORk4oG65yc-00486-00114600-00114807 um but a lot of women i think it was
VORk4oG65yc-00487-00114808-00114990 almost like kids going to school was
VORk4oG65yc-00488-00114991-00115278 their chance to have a bit more of maybe
VORk4oG65yc-00489-00115279-00115502 leisure time or eso classes or just
VORk4oG65yc-00490-00115503-00115719 trying to upskill themselves but with
VORk4oG65yc-00491-00115720-00115895 homeschooling how can you upscale your
VORk4oG65yc-00492-00115896-00116199 skill self and do homeschooling but also
VORk4oG65yc-00493-00116200-00116390 i think what's been really understood
VORk4oG65yc-00494-00116391-00116607 during the pandemic is a lot of women
VORk4oG65yc-00495-00116608-00116807 that we supported stayed within extended
VORk4oG65yc-00496-00116808-00117063 family households so now what you've got
VORk4oG65yc-00497-00117064-00117286 is your husband's working from home your
VORk4oG65yc-00498-00117288-00117399 brother-in-law your mother-in-law
VORk4oG65yc-00499-00117400-00117575 working from home everyone's working
VORk4oG65yc-00500-00117576-00117743 from home you're running the household
VORk4oG65yc-00501-00117744-00117966 the cooking the cleaning homeschooling
VORk4oG65yc-00502-00117967-00118271 there's just no time for yourself um so
VORk4oG65yc-00503-00118272-00118439 what we found was women were really
VORk4oG65yc-00504-00118440-00118678 isolated and then having that kind of
VORk4oG65yc-00505-00118679-00118902 escapism or just upscaling themselves
VORk4oG65yc-00506-00118903-00119102 that came out or that outlet just was
VORk4oG65yc-00507-00119103-00119286 not there for women to say okay i'm
VORk4oG65yc-00508-00119288-00119447 going to go into my class right now
VORk4oG65yc-00509-00119448-00119663 online and it wasn't there also what we
VORk4oG65yc-00510-00119664-00119871 found was that women were expected to
VORk4oG65yc-00511-00119872-00120086 work but the digital inclusion part i
VORk4oG65yc-00512-00120088-00120231 think for me was really quite
VORk4oG65yc-00513-00120232-00120423 overwhelming overnight you know
VORk4oG65yc-00514-00120424-00120599 everything was digital we weren't
VORk4oG65yc-00515-00120600-00120783 allowed to come visit women or show them
VORk4oG65yc-00516-00120783-00120958 how to log on or even just apply for
VORk4oG65yc-00517-00120959-00121207 universal credit um so we were kind of
VORk4oG65yc-00518-00121208-00121375 having to do that or didn't have any
VORk4oG65yc-00519-00121376-00121583 wi-fi universal credit systems were
VORk4oG65yc-00520-00121583-00121710 saying well you know you can just apply
VORk4oG65yc-00521-00121711-00121878 online it's quicker
VORk4oG65yc-00522-00121879-00122127 they've made it calling universal credit
VORk4oG65yc-00523-00122128-00122334 or just benefits helpline just so
VORk4oG65yc-00524-00122335-00122566 inaccessible that everything was online
VORk4oG65yc-00525-00122567-00122743 and if you didn't have wi-fi that was an
VORk4oG65yc-00526-00122744-00122958 issue it was great you know we offered
VORk4oG65yc-00527-00122959-00123271 women 30 tablets and etc but then there
VORk4oG65yc-00528-00123272-00123423 was nobody to actually show them how to
VORk4oG65yc-00529-00123424-00123631 set them up you know etc so we were
VORk4oG65yc-00530-00123632-00123847 always facing those challenges we did
VORk4oG65yc-00531-00123848-00123983 find that a lot of women were
VORk4oG65yc-00532-00123983-00124134 experiencing a lot of financial
VORk4oG65yc-00533-00124135-00124527 difficulty we had about 321 calls all
VORk4oG65yc-00534-00124528-00124743 during the pandemic up until december
VORk4oG65yc-00535-00124744-00124975 just a woman experiencing financial
VORk4oG65yc-00536-00124976-00125183 difficulty but also what we found was
VORk4oG65yc-00537-00125183-00125423 that women in crisis although we're
VORk4oG65yc-00538-00125424-00125663 always dealing with women in crisis a
VORk4oG65yc-00539-00125664-00125878 lot of the cases were a lot more complex
VORk4oG65yc-00540-00125879-00126047 than what they were before so you had
VORk4oG65yc-00541-00126048-00126254 women staying with the perpetrator you
VORk4oG65yc-00542-00126255-00126407 know if he was an abusive husband
VORk4oG65yc-00543-00126408-00126599 extended family but the kids are
VORk4oG65yc-00544-00126600-00126783 homeschooling there was just no out
VORk4oG65yc-00545-00126783-00126990 there was no out for women to actually
VORk4oG65yc-00546-00126991-00127207 phone amina and
VORk4oG65yc-00547-00127208-00127423 to come to classes but to also figure
VORk4oG65yc-00548-00127424-00127654 out during lockdown how do i escape an
VORk4oG65yc-00549-00127655-00127878 abusive relationship so there was a lot
VORk4oG65yc-00550-00127879-00128063 of that kind of going on but then also
VORk4oG65yc-00551-00128064-00128207 you've still got the department working
VORk4oG65yc-00552-00128208-00128375 pensions or universal credit saying you
VORk4oG65yc-00553-00128376-00128599 need to look for a job you know and then
VORk4oG65yc-00554-00128600-00128719 the job that you're looking for is
VORk4oG65yc-00555-00128720-00129047 part-time um so the poverty increases um
VORk4oG65yc-00556-00129048-00129223 we also supported a lot of women whose
VORk4oG65yc-00557-00129224-00129327 husbands
VORk4oG65yc-00558-00129328-00129614 um were maybe undocumented and not
VORk4oG65yc-00559-00129615-00129790 declaring their work as proper were
VORk4oG65yc-00560-00129791-00130086 being unpaid low or lower paid but then
VORk4oG65yc-00561-00130088-00130254 their employers were not claiming
VORk4oG65yc-00562-00130255-00130551 furlough so suddenly the women who had a
VORk4oG65yc-00563-00130552-00130766 bit of income coming in that had stopped
VORk4oG65yc-00564-00130767-00130919 also but when they were going to
VORk4oG65yc-00565-00130920-00131207 universal credit um or just to apply for
VORk4oG65yc-00566-00131208-00131414 universal credit they just don't have
VORk4oG65yc-00567-00131415-00131599 those skills there that are needed for
VORk4oG65yc-00568-00131600-00131799 jobs
VORk4oG65yc-00569-00131800-00131951 those are the kind of issues that you
VORk4oG65yc-00570-00131952-00132190 know we came across we did actually um
VORk4oG65yc-00571-00132191-00132478 have a hardship fund as well and we set
VORk4oG65yc-00572-00132479-00132639 up a hardship fund including the
VORk4oG65yc-00573-00132640-00132831 pandemic we paid out about twenty
VORk4oG65yc-00574-00132832-00133047 thousand pounds over twenty thousand
VORk4oG65yc-00575-00133048-00133263 pounds of women in crisis and in poverty
VORk4oG65yc-00576-00133264-00133414 um so that just kind of gives you a bit
VORk4oG65yc-00577-00133415-00133575 of a picture of what we were kind of
VORk4oG65yc-00578-00133576-00133863 dealing with just severe poverty access
VORk4oG65yc-00579-00133864-00134263 to wi-fi digital you know ipads tablets
VORk4oG65yc-00580-00134264-00134487 it was very difficult it was challenging
VORk4oG65yc-00581-00134488-00134678 on services or like ourselves because i
VORk4oG65yc-00582-00134679-00134863 think almost like we end up doing a lot
VORk4oG65yc-00583-00134864-00135054 of unpaid work i would say as well our
VORk4oG65yc-00584-00135055-00135247 staff so we were kind of going our way
VORk4oG65yc-00585-00135248-00135399 and doing things that were i would say
VORk4oG65yc-00586-00135400-00135551 above and beyond but it's things that we
VORk4oG65yc-00587-00135552-00135799 had to do in order to get women a bit of
VORk4oG65yc-00588-00135800-00136054 an equal fitting
VORk4oG65yc-00589-00136055-00136207 thanks very much mariam that that's
VORk4oG65yc-00590-00136208-00136335 that's really helpful and and
VORk4oG65yc-00591-00136336-00136487 interesting and
VORk4oG65yc-00592-00136488-00136719 i'm especially struck by that the point
VORk4oG65yc-00593-00136720-00136878 you made around
VORk4oG65yc-00594-00136879-00137063 undocumented workers as well and
VORk4oG65yc-00595-00137064-00137278 obviously all of the all of the added
VORk4oG65yc-00596-00137279-00137599 complexities or all the the the the
VORk4oG65yc-00597-00137600-00137823 cracks that that they they fall through
VORk4oG65yc-00598-00137824-00137999 anyway and then you add the pandemic on
VORk4oG65yc-00599-00138000-00138214 top of it and it's and it's magnified
VORk4oG65yc-00600-00138215-00138471 and exacerbated um
VORk4oG65yc-00601-00138472-00138711 sarah you talked you saw you talked
VORk4oG65yc-00602-00138712-00138951 about women as being seen as a soft as a
VORk4oG65yc-00603-00138952-00139447 soft touch and i'm wondering how much of
VORk4oG65yc-00604-00139448-00139790 how how much of that was was um
VORk4oG65yc-00605-00139791-00139966 sort of magnified i suppose during
VORk4oG65yc-00606-00139967-00140135 during the pan during the pandemic i
VORk4oG65yc-00607-00140136-00140319 know i i see in the chat uh there are a
VORk4oG65yc-00608-00140320-00140471 couple of other uh people who want to
VORk4oG65yc-00609-00140472-00140671 come in but sarah do you want to say
VORk4oG65yc-00610-00140672-00140814 just a little bit more about
VORk4oG65yc-00611-00140815-00141031 you know part in answer to to my
VORk4oG65yc-00612-00141032-00141223 original question as well but also that
VORk4oG65yc-00613-00141224-00141399 that soft touch element that you spoke
VORk4oG65yc-00614-00141400-00141678 about in your in your opening comments
VORk4oG65yc-00615-00141679-00141878 yeah i think i think we're both seen as
VORk4oG65yc-00616-00141879-00142102 a soft touch and a soft target as in you
VORk4oG65yc-00617-00142103-00142383 know i've noticed that uh again from
VORk4oG65yc-00618-00142384-00142631 anecdotal evidence from my colleagues um
VORk4oG65yc-00619-00142632-00142854 you know other teachers of color that
VORk4oG65yc-00620-00142855-00143175 often you know we are seen as the people
VORk4oG65yc-00621-00143176-00143366 that can take extra work so you know
VORk4oG65yc-00622-00143367-00143566 something that we call the black tax
VORk4oG65yc-00623-00143567-00143783 that some colleagues that are white may
VORk4oG65yc-00624-00143784-00144007 be expected to the less and do things
VORk4oG65yc-00625-00144008-00144183 are more in line with our job
VORk4oG65yc-00626-00144184-00144423 descriptions and and then you know
VORk4oG65yc-00627-00144424-00144695 teachers of colors are seen as as you
VORk4oG65yc-00628-00144696-00144887 know they're giving extra words and
VORk4oG65yc-00629-00144888-00145087 women even more
VORk4oG65yc-00630-00145088-00145359 um so that that's one thing so um the
VORk4oG65yc-00631-00145360-00145583 other thing is i think
VORk4oG65yc-00632-00145584-00145839 there's this this cultural you know
VORk4oG65yc-00633-00145840-00146023 it's still this this imbalance this
VORk4oG65yc-00634-00146024-00146190 power structure between men and women
VORk4oG65yc-00635-00146191-00146447 and and men and special men in
VORk4oG65yc-00636-00146448-00146654 opposition spa of power they still
VORk4oG65yc-00637-00146655-00146895 expect women to take on more and women
VORk4oG65yc-00638-00146896-00147087 sometimes are actually the ones that
VORk4oG65yc-00639-00147088-00147295 perpetuate this myth of like i had it
VORk4oG65yc-00640-00147296-00147511 hard but you think you have it hard i've
VORk4oG65yc-00641-00147512-00147719 had it way harder you know an example of
VORk4oG65yc-00642-00147720-00147902 this was in a boys school i used to work
VORk4oG65yc-00643-00147903-00148111 at and you know my colleagues have been
VORk4oG65yc-00644-00148112-00148263 there 20 years
VORk4oG65yc-00645-00148264-00148511 and they they were treated terribly by
VORk4oG65yc-00646-00148512-00148726 their male counterparts you know 30
VORk4oG65yc-00647-00148727-00148887 years ago whatever and you know they
VORk4oG65yc-00648-00148888-00149071 made a point of making your life hard to
VORk4oG65yc-00649-00149072-00149366 see if you were made of the right stuff
VORk4oG65yc-00650-00149367-00149495 um
VORk4oG65yc-00651-00149496-00149695 in addition to that so yeah so it's
VORk4oG65yc-00652-00149696-00149911 easier to tell a female teacher than
VORk4oG65yc-00653-00149912-00150207 than a male teacher um i think because
VORk4oG65yc-00654-00150208-00150383 male teachers will just say no i
VORk4oG65yc-00655-00150384-00150590 disagree whereas women teach i don't
VORk4oG65yc-00656-00150591-00150743 know if it's something the way we are
VORk4oG65yc-00657-00150744-00151039 because you know we are genetically
VORk4oG65yc-00658-00151040-00151151 made to
VORk4oG65yc-00659-00151152-00151423 to consider others and we we immediately
VORk4oG65yc-00660-00151424-00151623 take blame on ourselves or maybe the way
VORk4oG65yc-00661-00151624-00151814 i'm doing things and then you realize no
VORk4oG65yc-00662-00151815-00152047 this is not the way i you know there's
VORk4oG65yc-00663-00152048-00152247 no this as you get older you become more
VORk4oG65yc-00664-00152248-00152535 confident um and i think going back to
VORk4oG65yc-00665-00152536-00152735 your initial question i think you know a
VORk4oG65yc-00666-00152736-00152975 lot of it was space poverty especially
VORk4oG65yc-00667-00152976-00153151 if you were living in cities uh there
VORk4oG65yc-00668-00153152-00153399 was no sofa and my other half was
VORk4oG65yc-00669-00153400-00153671 working on the kitchen table because
VORk4oG65yc-00670-00153672-00153878 there were some was napping
VORk4oG65yc-00671-00153879-00154063 because there were some was napping and
VORk4oG65yc-00672-00154064-00154214 neither of us could work from the other
VORk4oG65yc-00673-00154215-00154311 room
VORk4oG65yc-00674-00154312-00154647 um also wi-fi difficulties of course um
VORk4oG65yc-00675-00154648-00154839 again if you had a big family and
VORk4oG65yc-00676-00154840-00155031 suddenly you had to work go from two
VORk4oG65yc-00677-00155032-00155199 devices to five
VORk4oG65yc-00678-00155200-00155478 how on earth do you do that and you know
VORk4oG65yc-00679-00155479-00155695 often i see you know even at home even
VORk4oG65yc-00680-00155696-00155871 though my other half is very happy to
VORk4oG65yc-00681-00155872-00156047 cook and clean and everything else when
VORk4oG65yc-00682-00156048-00156214 it comes to devices you know i have to
VORk4oG65yc-00683-00156215-00156502 share my device with my son you know um
VORk4oG65yc-00684-00156503-00156614 you know
VORk4oG65yc-00685-00156615-00156766 my my other half is a bit too worried
VORk4oG65yc-00686-00156767-00156887 that something might happen to his
VORk4oG65yc-00687-00156888-00157143 device you know if my son plays with it
VORk4oG65yc-00688-00157144-00157414 um so you know little things like like
VORk4oG65yc-00689-00157415-00157590 that and of course you know bigger
VORk4oG65yc-00690-00157591-00157871 things like uh what the other uh ladies
VORk4oG65yc-00691-00157872-00158054 have said um
VORk4oG65yc-00692-00158055-00158278 that yeah the lion's share of course
VORk4oG65yc-00693-00158279-00158423 cooking cleaning all of that
VORk4oG65yc-00694-00158424-00158719 predominantly falls on women still
VORk4oG65yc-00695-00158720-00158814 um
VORk4oG65yc-00696-00158815-00159063 so yes i think we are seen as a soft
VORk4oG65yc-00697-00159064-00159366 target as an easy target
VORk4oG65yc-00698-00159367-00159695 both for giving extra work for any kind
VORk4oG65yc-00699-00159696-00159975 of reprimand um
VORk4oG65yc-00700-00159976-00160223 and like i said anecdotally from other
VORk4oG65yc-00701-00160224-00160487 female teachers they're just are seen to
VORk4oG65yc-00702-00160488-00160735 to be doing a lot more taking more on
VORk4oG65yc-00703-00160736-00160895 when we shouldn't we are a unionized
VORk4oG65yc-00704-00160896-00161054 professional we should say there is no
VORk4oG65yc-00705-00161055-00161207 part of my job description and if you
VORk4oG65yc-00706-00161208-00161407 want me to do this as part of you know
VORk4oG65yc-00707-00161408-00161599 personal development then this should be
VORk4oG65yc-00708-00161600-00161902 a target rather than just saying yes in
VORk4oG65yc-00709-00161903-00162111 the hope to then climb the corporate
VORk4oG65yc-00710-00162112-00162366 ladder
VORk4oG65yc-00711-00162367-00162647 thanks very much sarah um
VORk4oG65yc-00712-00162648-00162895 joe that's me but i i know that pharah
VORk4oG65yc-00713-00162896-00163199 trishna and joy want to come in
VORk4oG65yc-00714-00163200-00163439 okay if pharah comes in
VORk4oG65yc-00715-00163440-00163902 yeah if you you yeah you bring them in
VORk4oG65yc-00716-00163903-00164095 but pharah did you want to say something
VORk4oG65yc-00717-00164096-00164223 about this
VORk4oG65yc-00718-00164224-00164343 yes um
VORk4oG65yc-00719-00164344-00164566 thank you very much um basically
VORk4oG65yc-00720-00164567-00164871 going uh falling on from what
VORk4oG65yc-00721-00164872-00165151 my colleagues have been saying
VORk4oG65yc-00722-00165152-00165319 about
VORk4oG65yc-00723-00165320-00165590 this is a question that i have been like
VORk4oG65yc-00724-00165591-00165775 nitpicking at like getting right to the
VORk4oG65yc-00725-00165776-00166078 root of of understanding
VORk4oG65yc-00726-00166079-00166113 um
VORk4oG65yc-00727-00166114-00166295 [Music]
VORk4oG65yc-00728-00166296-00166495 i mean we talk about gender roles within
VORk4oG65yc-00729-00166496-00166663 ethnic minority families
VORk4oG65yc-00730-00166664-00166759 and
VORk4oG65yc-00731-00166760-00167014 one thing was in preparation of coming
VORk4oG65yc-00732-00167015-00167311 to today's committee one thing that i i
VORk4oG65yc-00733-00167312-00167735 was asking um colleagues and friends etc
VORk4oG65yc-00734-00167736-00167959 was when we're trying to explain what
VORk4oG65yc-00735-00167960-00168214 cultural barriers if the minority women
VORk4oG65yc-00736-00168215-00168407 face that are different
VORk4oG65yc-00737-00168408-00168526 from
VORk4oG65yc-00738-00168527-00168878 a non-ethnic minority women and
VORk4oG65yc-00739-00168879-00169087 how would you describe that and i think
VORk4oG65yc-00740-00169088-00169214 that's something that should be taken
VORk4oG65yc-00741-00169215-00169454 into consideration is you know
VORk4oG65yc-00742-00169455-00169775 where are we coming from um and why are
VORk4oG65yc-00743-00169776-00169895 why is
VORk4oG65yc-00744-00169896-00169982 as as
VORk4oG65yc-00745-00169983-00170175 [Music]
VORk4oG65yc-00746-00170176-00170447 saying um
VORk4oG65yc-00747-00170448-00170671 like why why do i think women take on
VORk4oG65yc-00748-00170672-00170935 the lion's share of the work and it is
VORk4oG65yc-00749-00170936-00171199 pretty much the way that we have been
VORk4oG65yc-00750-00171200-00171543 brought up generationally as our culture
VORk4oG65yc-00751-00171544-00171695 uh we have a
VORk4oG65yc-00752-00171696-00171847 we
VORk4oG65yc-00753-00171848-00172095 have ingrained within us the fire
VORk4oG65yc-00754-00172096-00172287 the family hierarchy
VORk4oG65yc-00755-00172288-00172535 and that we're brought up to sell to
VORk4oG65yc-00756-00172536-00172854 serve our elders to give respect
VORk4oG65yc-00757-00172855-00173047 etiquette
VORk4oG65yc-00758-00173048-00173278 as women and we've traditionally been
VORk4oG65yc-00759-00173279-00173551 trained to serve others and to do the
VORk4oG65yc-00760-00173552-00173711 domestic work
VORk4oG65yc-00761-00173712-00174063 um and at any point if
VORk4oG65yc-00762-00174064-00174335 we do not fulfill those expectations
VORk4oG65yc-00763-00174336-00174623 there is an emotional backlash
VORk4oG65yc-00764-00174624-00174807 in in the sense that you're being made
VORk4oG65yc-00765-00174808-00175135 to feel that you are not good enough
VORk4oG65yc-00766-00175136-00175375 um or perhaps you know you're ungrateful
VORk4oG65yc-00767-00175376-00175702 for things that you have been given
VORk4oG65yc-00768-00175703-00175807 um
VORk4oG65yc-00769-00175808-00175983 i know that sounds like really horrible
VORk4oG65yc-00770-00175984-00176254 in in a sense but on on the flip side of
VORk4oG65yc-00771-00176255-00176463 that is because you know we make that
VORk4oG65yc-00772-00176464-00176654 effort to have these close family
VORk4oG65yc-00773-00176655-00176959 relations it also means that we do tend
VORk4oG65yc-00774-00176960-00177207 to be emotionally and physically
VORk4oG65yc-00775-00177208-00177438 relying on each other especially you
VORk4oG65yc-00776-00177439-00177575 know when we think about a parent and
VORk4oG65yc-00777-00177576-00177823 child relationship so there is that
VORk4oG65yc-00778-00177824-00178183 um that needs to depend on
VORk4oG65yc-00779-00178184-00178447 either grandparents or aunts and uncles
VORk4oG65yc-00780-00178448-00178607 you don't have that family support
VORk4oG65yc-00781-00178608-00178711 system
VORk4oG65yc-00782-00178712-00178926 and and again this is just in a typical
VORk4oG65yc-00783-00178927-00179047 traditional
VORk4oG65yc-00784-00179048-00179247 kind of format
VORk4oG65yc-00785-00179248-00179463 so obviously if you're coming here and
VORk4oG65yc-00786-00179464-00179638 into scotland and
VORk4oG65yc-00787-00179639-00179814 and you don't have that family support
VORk4oG65yc-00788-00179815-00180151 system that impacts you
VORk4oG65yc-00789-00180152-00180351 in various ways and obviously that
VORk4oG65yc-00790-00180352-00180614 includes being an unpaid carer and this
VORk4oG65yc-00791-00180615-00180863 whole notion of being an unpaid carer is
VORk4oG65yc-00792-00180864-00181087 actually still quite new and it's still
VORk4oG65yc-00793-00181088-00181351 something that seems very alien
VORk4oG65yc-00794-00181352-00181487 and because
VORk4oG65yc-00795-00181488-00181711 we're told that taking care of our
VORk4oG65yc-00796-00181712-00181983 families and of our children it's an
VORk4oG65yc-00797-00181984-00182263 obligation it's not an option so this is
VORk4oG65yc-00798-00182264-00182414 something that we have to do we just
VORk4oG65yc-00799-00182415-00182654 have to get on with it and but if we
VORk4oG65yc-00800-00182655-00182863 ever seek outside help and that that's
VORk4oG65yc-00801-00182864-00183078 seen as a form of weakness
VORk4oG65yc-00802-00183079-00183263 so we have these are the kind of
VORk4oG65yc-00803-00183264-00183631 pressures that we talk about um within a
VORk4oG65yc-00804-00183632-00183838 family structure and within a household
VORk4oG65yc-00805-00183839-00183966 structure
VORk4oG65yc-00806-00183967-00184095 um
VORk4oG65yc-00807-00184096-00184247 and imagine then obviously if you're a
VORk4oG65yc-00808-00184248-00184454 single parent as well you've still got
VORk4oG65yc-00809-00184455-00184638 all these expectations
VORk4oG65yc-00810-00184639-00184895 to be able to do absolutely everything
VORk4oG65yc-00811-00184896-00185143 plus take on the role of a father um or
VORk4oG65yc-00812-00185144-00185375 the other other spouse
VORk4oG65yc-00813-00185376-00185663 on top of maintaining the this whole you
VORk4oG65yc-00814-00185664-00185807 know a
VORk4oG65yc-00815-00185808-00186102 hierarchy and that's only family i'm not
VORk4oG65yc-00816-00186103-00186254 even like touched by
VORk4oG65yc-00817-00186255-00186343 the
VORk4oG65yc-00818-00186344-00186614 impact of community in society because
VORk4oG65yc-00819-00186615-00186831 of these unrealistic expectations that
VORk4oG65yc-00820-00186832-00187078 we have of perfection and again these
VORk4oG65yc-00821-00187079-00187319 are ingrained within ethnic minority
VORk4oG65yc-00822-00187320-00187599 girls at such a young age and that
VORk4oG65yc-00823-00187600-00187878 impacts on self-confidence impacts on
VORk4oG65yc-00824-00187879-00188031 our mental health
VORk4oG65yc-00825-00188032-00188238 it impacts on
VORk4oG65yc-00826-00188239-00188399 you know our ability and how we see
VORk4oG65yc-00827-00188400-00188726 ourself as well so this is the very very
VORk4oG65yc-00828-00188727-00188959 root the very very foundation
VORk4oG65yc-00829-00188960-00189071 of
VORk4oG65yc-00830-00189072-00189295 what the cultural barriers are that we
VORk4oG65yc-00831-00189296-00189623 are working so hard to overcome
VORk4oG65yc-00832-00189624-00189735 i think that
VORk4oG65yc-00833-00189736-00189863 point
VORk4oG65yc-00834-00189864-00190063 the points that i'm making is quite
VORk4oG65yc-00835-00190064-00190295 important to help understand
VORk4oG65yc-00836-00190296-00190519 what the barriers actually are
VORk4oG65yc-00837-00190520-00190750 so you know put yourself in our shoes
VORk4oG65yc-00838-00190751-00191054 basically to see to understand better
VORk4oG65yc-00839-00191055-00191247 obviously as um you know we're at the
VORk4oG65yc-00840-00191248-00191407 committee today we're just sitting here
VORk4oG65yc-00841-00191408-00191711 with you know um policymakers
VORk4oG65yc-00842-00191712-00191847 and
VORk4oG65yc-00843-00191848-00192023 you know there's nothing about us
VORk4oG65yc-00844-00192024-00192214 without us sort of thing so i i just
VORk4oG65yc-00845-00192215-00192359 want to
VORk4oG65yc-00846-00192360-00192590 take an opportunity and thank and be
VORk4oG65yc-00847-00192591-00192719 grateful for being here and being able
VORk4oG65yc-00848-00192720-00193102 to provide that insight
VORk4oG65yc-00849-00193103-00193311 thanks very much for that pharah uh
VORk4oG65yc-00850-00193312-00193607 krishna he wanted to come in on this
VORk4oG65yc-00851-00193608-00193831 yeah thank you um i'm
VORk4oG65yc-00852-00193832-00194038 kind of completely agree with
VORk4oG65yc-00853-00194039-00194278 what both speakers have already said um
VORk4oG65yc-00854-00194279-00194447 so there's i don't want to go over that
VORk4oG65yc-00855-00194448-00194599 but i think one of the main things for
VORk4oG65yc-00856-00194600-00194799 me is for people to understand that
VORk4oG65yc-00857-00194800-00195023 people like farah and
VORk4oG65yc-00858-00195024-00195231 amina we're also talking
VORk4oG65yc-00859-00195232-00195447 about women who are second third fourth
VORk4oG65yc-00860-00195448-00195671 even fifth generation born and brought
VORk4oG65yc-00861-00195672-00195878 up in scotland and they are still
VORk4oG65yc-00862-00195879-00196063 juggling and people are mentally women
VORk4oG65yc-00863-00196064-00196319 are mentally juggling two cultures and
VORk4oG65yc-00864-00196320-00196511 that has a huge impact on your mental
VORk4oG65yc-00865-00196512-00196719 health especially when you know that
VORk4oG65yc-00866-00196720-00196902 you've been you know you are part of the
VORk4oG65yc-00867-00196903-00197150 scottish community we are citizens of
VORk4oG65yc-00868-00197151-00197343 scotland and yet all of these things are
VORk4oG65yc-00869-00197344-00197623 still going on underneath this layer and
VORk4oG65yc-00870-00197624-00197878 the the main thing from me is that was
VORk4oG65yc-00871-00197879-00198183 in our organization normally on a weekly
VORk4oG65yc-00872-00198184-00198526 basis we would maybe have had 25 30
VORk4oG65yc-00873-00198527-00198735 women dropping in by but once the
VORk4oG65yc-00874-00198736-00198878 pandemic hit
VORk4oG65yc-00875-00198879-00199078 we were contacted by over a hundred
VORk4oG65yc-00876-00199079-00199375 women every week but a whole range of
VORk4oG65yc-00877-00199376-00199623 issues that came out from actually
VORk4oG65yc-00878-00199624-00199902 having an autistic child at home
VORk4oG65yc-00879-00199903-00200150 and before that child was able to go to
VORk4oG65yc-00880-00200151-00200311 some play group or whatever and that
VORk4oG65yc-00881-00200312-00200535 gave them a wee bit of space
VORk4oG65yc-00882-00200536-00200702 but to be at home and not have any
VORk4oG65yc-00883-00200703-00201007 access to anybody and again as um
VORk4oG65yc-00884-00201008-00201231 that as far as just said before me that
VORk4oG65yc-00885-00201232-00201414 the the fact of having all peop
VORk4oG65yc-00886-00201415-00201566 everybody at home and some of these
VORk4oG65yc-00887-00201567-00201790 people were the perpetrators of domestic
VORk4oG65yc-00888-00201791-00201975 violence you're actually living where
VORk4oG65yc-00889-00201976-00202199 you have no space to wow and what the
VORk4oG65yc-00890-00202200-00202399 pandemic has done is actually it's
VORk4oG65yc-00891-00202400-00202566 actually brought everything out into the
VORk4oG65yc-00892-00202567-00202654 open
VORk4oG65yc-00893-00202655-00202838 a lot of these things were happening and
VORk4oG65yc-00894-00202839-00203054 people were seeing them and they were in
VORk4oG65yc-00895-00203055-00203214 people were talking about them but
VORk4oG65yc-00896-00203215-00203454 nothing was actually being done and what
VORk4oG65yc-00897-00203455-00203654 for me the biggest most significant
VORk4oG65yc-00898-00203655-00203878 thing has been the fact that
VORk4oG65yc-00899-00203879-00204126 the mainstream services are there for
VORk4oG65yc-00900-00204127-00204311 people from the white scottish community
VORk4oG65yc-00901-00204312-00204463 and then you have a layer of the third
VORk4oG65yc-00902-00204464-00204647 sector services for the white scottish
VORk4oG65yc-00903-00204648-00204862 community but if you look at the ethnic
VORk4oG65yc-00904-00204863-00205103 communities every service that is there
VORk4oG65yc-00905-00205104-00205286 to bridge that gap
VORk4oG65yc-00906-00205287-00205662 is voluntary sector as third sector
VORk4oG65yc-00907-00205663-00205958 and and th this needs to be addressed
VORk4oG65yc-00908-00205959-00206231 because when it comes to employment and
VORk4oG65yc-00909-00206232-00206479 mental health issues and also somebody
VORk4oG65yc-00910-00206480-00206646 said earlier about
VORk4oG65yc-00911-00206648-00206919 helping people to you know fill in forms
VORk4oG65yc-00912-00206919-00207134 for the universal credit a lot of these
VORk4oG65yc-00913-00207135-00207327 women even although english is their
VORk4oG65yc-00914-00207328-00207527 first language but they've never been
VORk4oG65yc-00915-00207528-00207623 online
VORk4oG65yc-00916-00207623-00207831 so they couldn't we had us our outreach
VORk4oG65yc-00917-00207832-00208038 staff were on the phone for three hours
VORk4oG65yc-00918-00208039-00208255 at a time helping somebody fill in a
VORk4oG65yc-00919-00208256-00208503 universal credit form
VORk4oG65yc-00920-00208504-00208710 and the quote unquote has also raised
VORk4oG65yc-00921-00208711-00208975 many many issues for education at school
VORk4oG65yc-00922-00208976-00209142 for children at home everybody was doing
VORk4oG65yc-00923-00209144-00209358 homeschooling but for a lot of the women
VORk4oG65yc-00924-00209359-00209534 from our communities who had left school
VORk4oG65yc-00925-00209535-00209719 when they were really young homework was
VORk4oG65yc-00926-00209719-00209927 a completely different
VORk4oG65yc-00927-00209928-00210079 level
VORk4oG65yc-00928-00210080-00210246 and you know and in some ways joy i
VORk4oG65yc-00929-00210248-00210382 think highlighted the other side of the
VORk4oG65yc-00930-00210383-00210591 scale of women who are highly educated
VORk4oG65yc-00931-00210592-00210791 and are struggling for work now we we
VORk4oG65yc-00932-00210792-00210998 work with a whole mix of women and we
VORk4oG65yc-00933-00211000-00211142 had at the other end where women had
VORk4oG65yc-00934-00211144-00211358 just started getting their freedoms
VORk4oG65yc-00935-00211359-00211558 started getting money and that was
VORk4oG65yc-00936-00211559-00211742 theirs that they could spend when they
VORk4oG65yc-00937-00211744-00211975 wanted and what they and all of that's
VORk4oG65yc-00938-00211976-00212175 gone because a lot of them worked in the
VORk4oG65yc-00939-00212176-00212527 low paid sector which was home here um
VORk4oG65yc-00940-00212528-00212734 working in jobs and with zero contract
VORk4oG65yc-00941-00212735-00212871 hours
VORk4oG65yc-00942-00212871-00213023 and so you can just imagine if that
VORk4oG65yc-00943-00213023-00213206 little bit of freedom that they had was
VORk4oG65yc-00944-00213207-00213423 completely taken away by covid and we
VORk4oG65yc-00945-00213423-00213646 don't know how that's going to look now
VORk4oG65yc-00946-00213648-00213839 we have just produced the very first
VORk4oG65yc-00947-00213840-00214103 ever research for sikh women in scotland
VORk4oG65yc-00948-00214104-00214279 we launched it in december at the
VORk4oG65yc-00949-00214280-00214463 parliament and i'll just put it in the
VORk4oG65yc-00950-00214464-00214663 chat you'll see you can
VORk4oG65yc-00951-00214664-00214815 get it on our
VORk4oG65yc-00952-00214816-00214927 website
VORk4oG65yc-00953-00214928-00215175 but i just feel that there's many issues
VORk4oG65yc-00954-00215176-00215342 that you know
VORk4oG65yc-00955-00215344-00215646 cut across all bmu communities
VORk4oG65yc-00956-00215648-00215839 but there are some areas where people
VORk4oG65yc-00957-00215840-00216023 are just not visible
VORk4oG65yc-00958-00216023-00216255 yeah
VORk4oG65yc-00959-00216256-00216423 thank you trishna and and thanks for
VORk4oG65yc-00960-00216423-00216615 that link i i know one of my colleagues
VORk4oG65yc-00961-00216616-00216798 will probably want to come in on that
VORk4oG65yc-00962-00216800-00217039 later uh joy did you want to come in on
VORk4oG65yc-00963-00217040-00217255 this
VORk4oG65yc-00964-00217256-00217551 thank you and very briefly um
VORk4oG65yc-00965-00217552-00217791 yes i look forward to talking about the
VORk4oG65yc-00966-00217792-00218110 employment aspects of this later um but
VORk4oG65yc-00967-00218111-00218327 um i i was wonderful to hear so many
VORk4oG65yc-00968-00218328-00218494 personal stories
VORk4oG65yc-00969-00218496-00218823 um and first-hand knowledge and and we
VORk4oG65yc-00970-00218823-00219103 saw this too and during a project that
VORk4oG65yc-00971-00219104-00219375 we created from government well-being
VORk4oG65yc-00972-00219376-00219606 fund
VORk4oG65yc-00973-00219607-00219910 we found cultural integration was nigh
VORk4oG65yc-00974-00219911-00220110 on impossible for those who were
VORk4oG65yc-00975-00220111-00220487 obviously new to the country and um uh
VORk4oG65yc-00976-00220488-00220791 our most well received advice for for
VORk4oG65yc-00977-00220792-00221006 parents was literally how they could
VORk4oG65yc-00978-00221007-00221246 maintain discipline of their child play
VORk4oG65yc-00979-00221248-00221503 with them as well as teach them without
VORk4oG65yc-00980-00221504-00221823 outside influence of any kind
VORk4oG65yc-00981-00221823-00221982 and the program that we developed
VORk4oG65yc-00982-00221983-00222223 focused on resilience and mindset and we
VORk4oG65yc-00983-00222223-00222439 really couldn't talk about much else we
VORk4oG65yc-00984-00222440-00222631 we did go on to do finances and
VORk4oG65yc-00985-00222632-00222919 employability but first of all we needed
VORk4oG65yc-00986-00222919-00223239 to look at family life on on getting
VORk4oG65yc-00987-00223240-00223439 them stronger putting back a bit of
VORk4oG65yc-00988-00223440-00223655 confidence before we could talk about
VORk4oG65yc-00989-00223656-00223919 employability before we go on to sort
VORk4oG65yc-00990-00223919-00224158 their finances out and so that
VORk4oG65yc-00991-00224159-00224455 resilience piece with the coaches who
VORk4oG65yc-00992-00224456-00224655 are trained in this was absolutely key
VORk4oG65yc-00993-00224656-00224798 at this stage
VORk4oG65yc-00994-00224800-00224919 um
VORk4oG65yc-00995-00224919-00225223 so so getting that resilience up and
VORk4oG65yc-00996-00225223-00225482 enabled them to absorb further
VORk4oG65yc-00997-00225483-00225663 information
VORk4oG65yc-00998-00225664-00225855 we also note that lack of confidence
VORk4oG65yc-00999-00225856-00226087 worsens when women can't meet others in
VORk4oG65yc-01000-00226088-00226287 their situation
VORk4oG65yc-01001-00226288-00226351 and
VORk4oG65yc-01002-00226352-00226542 whether that was through lack of digital
VORk4oG65yc-01003-00226544-00226823 awareness or just
VORk4oG65yc-01004-00226823-00227039 not being able to go out and socialize
VORk4oG65yc-01005-00227040-00227303 um and we we saw this um
VORk4oG65yc-01006-00227304-00227510 in we have facebook groups for our
VORk4oG65yc-01007-00227511-00227887 cohorts of minority ethnic women and and
VORk4oG65yc-01008-00227888-00228079 they cite discussions with women in the
VORk4oG65yc-01009-00228080-00228415 same boat as them as extraordinary
VORk4oG65yc-01010-00228416-00228606 impactful and helpful
VORk4oG65yc-01011-00228607-00228879 so trying to get them together was was
VORk4oG65yc-01012-00228880-00229055 key for us so that they could hear they
VORk4oG65yc-01013-00229056-00229263 weren't the only ones in this
VORk4oG65yc-01014-00229264-00229534 unfortunate situation
VORk4oG65yc-01015-00229535-00229782 and what we are left with now there is a
VORk4oG65yc-01016-00229783-00229991 lack of awareness of what the rules are
VORk4oG65yc-01017-00229992-00230415 going back after long lockdowns and many
VORk4oG65yc-01018-00230416-00230679 minority ethnic women who are looking
VORk4oG65yc-01019-00230680-00230831 for work
VORk4oG65yc-01020-00230832-00231079 which is commensurate to their skill set
VORk4oG65yc-01021-00231080-00231279 um now doubt whether they have the
VORk4oG65yc-01022-00231280-00231527 ability to get out there again and
VORk4oG65yc-01023-00231528-00231758 that's another mindset and confidence
VORk4oG65yc-01024-00231759-00231982 issue that needs to be addressed
VORk4oG65yc-01025-00231983-00232142 thank you
VORk4oG65yc-01026-00232144-00232342 pat thank you thanks for that joy i'll
VORk4oG65yc-01027-00232344-00232558 hand back to you joe and and i'll leave
VORk4oG65yc-01028-00232559-00232694 it there thank you
VORk4oG65yc-01029-00232696-00232863 okay thank you as i see sierra was
VORk4oG65yc-01030-00232864-00233015 hoping to come back in
VORk4oG65yc-01031-00233016-00233175 i mean don't hesitate to try and make
VORk4oG65yc-01032-00233176-00233439 your point later um if i haven't got
VORk4oG65yc-01033-00233440-00233606 time to bring you back in just now which
VORk4oG65yc-01034-00233607-00233831 which i don't i'm going to go now to pam
VORk4oG65yc-01035-00233832-00234382 duncan glance please
VORk4oG65yc-01036-00234383-00234575 thank you convener and thank you very
VORk4oG65yc-01037-00234576-00234758 much to the panel this morning for your
VORk4oG65yc-01038-00234759-00234894 opening statements and also for the
VORk4oG65yc-01039-00234896-00235094 testimony that you've already given and
VORk4oG65yc-01040-00235096-00235294 i've been i've been furiously trying to
VORk4oG65yc-01041-00235296-00235455 and take notes and as i've been
VORk4oG65yc-01042-00235456-00235591 listening it's been really really
VORk4oG65yc-01043-00235592-00235782 helpful i also want to say thank you for
VORk4oG65yc-01044-00235783-00235967 everything that you've done and during
VORk4oG65yc-01045-00235967-00236182 the the past and couple of years and
VORk4oG65yc-01046-00236183-00236551 beyond and it has been a significantly
VORk4oG65yc-01047-00236552-00236734 bit more difficult
VORk4oG65yc-01048-00236735-00236951 two years for the people you represent
VORk4oG65yc-01049-00236952-00237103 than many of us in scotland and i just
VORk4oG65yc-01050-00237104-00237239 want to say thank you for everything you
VORk4oG65yc-01051-00237240-00237358 did for that
VORk4oG65yc-01052-00237359-00237519 and i have a couple of areas of
VORk4oG65yc-01053-00237519-00237727 questions my first question is about
VORk4oG65yc-01054-00237728-00238023 um the financial security of the women
VORk4oG65yc-01055-00238023-00238327 that the and you support and of course
VORk4oG65yc-01056-00238328-00238471 that the risk that women's unfair
VORk4oG65yc-01057-00238471-00238719 responsibility for pay for unpaid care
VORk4oG65yc-01058-00238719-00239015 and domestic work um was could could get
VORk4oG65yc-01059-00239016-00239198 worse and that was identified during
VORk4oG65yc-01060-00239200-00239391 during the budget process
VORk4oG65yc-01061-00239392-00239687 and i wondered perhaps if and farah and
VORk4oG65yc-01062-00239688-00240031 cosby joy and miriam may may want to
VORk4oG65yc-01063-00240032-00240119 answer
VORk4oG65yc-01064-00240119-00240455 um has it um has the ability to find
VORk4oG65yc-01065-00240456-00240606 paid work and income
VORk4oG65yc-01066-00240607-00240887 and been been seriously put at risk
VORk4oG65yc-01067-00240888-00241015 during the during the pandemic you've
VORk4oG65yc-01068-00241016-00241239 already touched on some of this but um
VORk4oG65yc-01069-00241240-00241423 and what is the what is the current
VORk4oG65yc-01070-00241423-00241694 picture of the financial situation
VORk4oG65yc-01071-00241696-00241998 the families that you you represent
VORk4oG65yc-01072-00242000-00242446 thanks
VORk4oG65yc-01073-00242448-00242775 thank you very much uh pam and for that
VORk4oG65yc-01074-00242776-00243191 so in in terms of a financial security
VORk4oG65yc-01075-00243192-00243455 so if we're talking about women who have
VORk4oG65yc-01076-00243456-00243798 got children for example then that has
VORk4oG65yc-01077-00243800-00243982 pretty much been
VORk4oG65yc-01078-00243983-00244271 zero to none because it has revolved
VORk4oG65yc-01079-00244271-00244639 around child care so perhaps again it's
VORk4oG65yc-01080-00244640-00244734 a
VORk4oG65yc-01081-00244735-00245063 you've got the the role of women and
VORk4oG65yc-01082-00245064-00245334 obviously in their gender role
VORk4oG65yc-01083-00245335-00245527 as being the primary caretaker and
VORk4oG65yc-01084-00245528-00245687 obviously
VORk4oG65yc-01085-00245688-00245982 if you're relying on extended family or
VORk4oG65yc-01086-00245983-00246239 friends even to look after children or
VORk4oG65yc-01087-00246240-00246558 even child after school care etc because
VORk4oG65yc-01088-00246559-00246719 of you know lockdown
VORk4oG65yc-01089-00246719-00246927 all that had been removed you know there
VORk4oG65yc-01090-00246928-00247151 was restrictions going on so it was
VORk4oG65yc-01091-00247152-00247391 really difficult for women to actually
VORk4oG65yc-01092-00247392-00247575 find paid work
VORk4oG65yc-01093-00247576-00247934 um and especially
VORk4oG65yc-01094-00247935-00248375 one one of the things that i've heard in
VORk4oG65yc-01095-00248376-00248615 is literally
VORk4oG65yc-01096-00248616-00248846 because of there's nothing especially if
VORk4oG65yc-01097-00248848-00249055 you think about families who have no
VORk4oG65yc-01098-00249056-00249271 recourse to public funds so you know
VORk4oG65yc-01099-00249271-00249519 they
VORk4oG65yc-01100-00249519-00249775 they've either you know been
VORk4oG65yc-01101-00249776-00250079 they don't have the option of funnel
VORk4oG65yc-01102-00250080-00250303 um
VORk4oG65yc-01103-00250304-00250551 so if you're thinking about as a woman
VORk4oG65yc-01104-00250552-00250863 who's at home with children
VORk4oG65yc-01105-00250864-00251055 they've got no access to
VORk4oG65yc-01106-00251056-00251271 public funds therefore you know
VORk4oG65yc-01107-00251271-00251463 universal credit is just absolutely you
VORk4oG65yc-01108-00251464-00251671 know that that's
VORk4oG65yc-01109-00251671-00251846 not an option
VORk4oG65yc-01110-00251848-00252230 um so how are they actually going to you
VORk4oG65yc-01111-00252231-00252575 know providing support for their family
VORk4oG65yc-01112-00252576-00252751 and especially typically where you know
VORk4oG65yc-01113-00252752-00252951 if the male is the breadwinner of the
VORk4oG65yc-01114-00252952-00253151 family and
VORk4oG65yc-01115-00253152-00253319 and they're having to either stop
VORk4oG65yc-01116-00253319-00253558 working or reduce working and they don't
VORk4oG65yc-01117-00253559-00253773 have the option of furlough um
VORk4oG65yc-01118-00253775-00253919 [Music]
VORk4oG65yc-01119-00253919-00254119 or you know again racial discrimination
VORk4oG65yc-01120-00254119-00254398 in the workplace causes either people to
VORk4oG65yc-01121-00254400-00254694 leave their jobs or you know they get
VORk4oG65yc-01122-00254696-00254887 a forced to leave
VORk4oG65yc-01123-00254888-00255415 um so it has been very difficult
VORk4oG65yc-01124-00255416-00255719 in in terms of that financial security
VORk4oG65yc-01125-00255719-00255975 and we know of certain cases we're
VORk4oG65yc-01126-00255976-00256223 trying to help some women maybe fill out
VORk4oG65yc-01127-00256223-00256463 the scottish welfare the fund
VORk4oG65yc-01128-00256464-00256710 applications
VORk4oG65yc-01129-00256711-00256879 and if not being that you know rallying
VORk4oG65yc-01130-00256880-00257039 around just within the community to be
VORk4oG65yc-01131-00257040-00257215 able to help and support
VORk4oG65yc-01132-00257216-00257382 there was lots of funding that put you
VORk4oG65yc-01133-00257383-00257575 know there was ample opportunity and
VORk4oG65yc-01134-00257576-00257775 some things like from the grassroots
VORk4oG65yc-01135-00257776-00257998 perspective that the work that a i had
VORk4oG65yc-01136-00258000-00258310 done um with our charity and you know we
VORk4oG65yc-01137-00258311-00258567 did get funding for helping women but
VORk4oG65yc-01138-00258567-00258727 again that's quite restrictive on what
VORk4oG65yc-01139-00258728-00258863 you can do
VORk4oG65yc-01140-00258864-00259063 with that for example even something
VORk4oG65yc-01141-00259064-00259230 simple as getting i mean maybe every
VORk4oG65yc-01142-00259231-00259367 gift card
VORk4oG65yc-01143-00259367-00259630 from asda that's something that we had
VORk4oG65yc-01144-00259631-00259894 done in this last omicron
VORk4oG65yc-01145-00259896-00260055 lockdown and that that was very very
VORk4oG65yc-01146-00260056-00260206 well received
VORk4oG65yc-01147-00260207-00260494 but in terms of the ability to pay fine
VORk4oG65yc-01148-00260496-00260734 paid work that is flexible so not only
VORk4oG65yc-01149-00260735-00260903 do you have to juggle child care you
VORk4oG65yc-01150-00260904-00261127 have to juggle your own home life you've
VORk4oG65yc-01151-00261128-00261327 got to juggle the language barriers
VORk4oG65yc-01152-00261328-00261479 you've got to juggle
VORk4oG65yc-01153-00261480-00261758 the knowledge as well the accessibility
VORk4oG65yc-01154-00261759-00261927 of information
VORk4oG65yc-01155-00261928-00262079 and
VORk4oG65yc-01156-00262080-00262310 and competing attention or between
VORk4oG65yc-01157-00262311-00262591 children or between other family members
VORk4oG65yc-01158-00262592-00262830 as well as caring responsibilities of
VORk4oG65yc-01159-00262831-00263030 other family members so whether this be
VORk4oG65yc-01160-00263031-00263287 in parents that live with you
VORk4oG65yc-01161-00263288-00263495 or a children with additional support
VORk4oG65yc-01162-00263496-00263615 needs
VORk4oG65yc-01163-00263616-00263855 it has definitely i can
VORk4oG65yc-01164-00263856-00264110 it has been very hard to find paid work
VORk4oG65yc-01165-00264111-00264327 and especially if you're a woman and
VORk4oG65yc-01166-00264328-00264430 you're
VORk4oG65yc-01167-00264431-00264782 in self-employed as well um
VORk4oG65yc-01168-00264783-00265087 again like say for example beauticians
VORk4oG65yc-01169-00265088-00265382 they're they were one of the
VORk4oG65yc-01170-00265383-00265687 first services to have been affected as
VORk4oG65yc-01171-00265688-00265871 well like through lockdown because they
VORk4oG65yc-01172-00265872-00266055 had the company put down all their
VORk4oG65yc-01173-00266056-00266327 services and i'm just wondering if any
VORk4oG65yc-01174-00266328-00266430 of my other colleagues would like to
VORk4oG65yc-01175-00266431-00267263 comment on that
VORk4oG65yc-01176-00267264-00268343 um
VORk4oG65yc-01177-00268344-00268471 yeah i mean
VORk4oG65yc-01178-00268472-00268710 the thing is as i said whatever you know
VORk4oG65yc-01179-00268711-00268863 everything that's already been said
VORk4oG65yc-01180-00268864-00269110 applies of course across the board to
VORk4oG65yc-01181-00269111-00269206 you know
VORk4oG65yc-01182-00269207-00269455 vast majority of ethical minority women
VORk4oG65yc-01183-00269456-00269710 and we know from our own experience the
VORk4oG65yc-01184-00269711-00269943 the biggest stigma that's still around
VORk4oG65yc-01185-00269944-00270151 even although this pandemic has it and
VORk4oG65yc-01186-00270152-00270382 people are actually at the end of
VORk4oG65yc-01187-00270383-00270567 everything with the end of their road
VORk4oG65yc-01188-00270568-00270782 mentally and physically with trying to
VORk4oG65yc-01189-00270783-00271006 keep things going the stigma that's the
VORk4oG65yc-01190-00271007-00271230 biggest thing that still stops women
VORk4oG65yc-01191-00271231-00271399 from coming forward
VORk4oG65yc-01192-00271400-00271543 and that's something that needs to be
VORk4oG65yc-01193-00271544-00271751 acknowledged and recognized and all of
VORk4oG65yc-01194-00271752-00271879 the
VORk4oG65yc-01195-00271880-00272143 the evidence that we give as might sound
VORk4oG65yc-01196-00272144-00272351 comes across as anecdotal but somewhere
VORk4oG65yc-01197-00272352-00272551 along the line this anecdotal thing
VORk4oG65yc-01198-00272552-00272791 needs to change and we need to have
VORk4oG65yc-01199-00272792-00273047 some kind of way of creating i mean our
VORk4oG65yc-01200-00273048-00273223 research that we did the seek women
VORk4oG65yc-01201-00273224-00273447 speak report it was because there was
VORk4oG65yc-01202-00273448-00273743 nothing about sikh women at all in any
VORk4oG65yc-01203-00273744-00274023 manner or form in scotland so that's why
VORk4oG65yc-01204-00274024-00274199 and this is a first step
VORk4oG65yc-01205-00274200-00274415 but for me going forward there needs to
VORk4oG65yc-01206-00274416-00274671 be more in-depth research on these areas
VORk4oG65yc-01207-00274672-00274830 than it should be across the board
VORk4oG65yc-01208-00274831-00275071 because not one size fits all
VORk4oG65yc-01209-00275072-00275247 and some of the work that people like
VORk4oG65yc-01210-00275248-00275479 farah have been doing through cenvo we
VORk4oG65yc-01211-00275480-00275599 might be doing that but it'll be in a
VORk4oG65yc-01212-00275600-00275903 different way because the needs and the
VORk4oG65yc-01213-00275904-00276087 mental health of women from different
VORk4oG65yc-01214-00276088-00276327 communities is affected differently some
VORk4oG65yc-01215-00276328-00276519 women have been doing the same thing for
VORk4oG65yc-01216-00276520-00276751 so long they have internalized it and
VORk4oG65yc-01217-00276752-00276967 they think that's just normal
VORk4oG65yc-01218-00276968-00277095 and then on the other hand when you're
VORk4oG65yc-01219-00277096-00277255 trying to explain to them that this is
VORk4oG65yc-01220-00277256-00277487 not normal you need to have a life you
VORk4oG65yc-01221-00277488-00277671 need to acknowledge that you are a human
VORk4oG65yc-01222-00277672-00277910 being as well it's very very difficult
VORk4oG65yc-01223-00277911-00278055 and it's really difficult to explain
VORk4oG65yc-01224-00278056-00278182 that
VORk4oG65yc-01225-00278183-00278327 and it's difficult to put it down on
VORk4oG65yc-01226-00278328-00278534 paper to make a report out of it so that
VORk4oG65yc-01227-00278535-00278687 then you're saying that yeah this is
VORk4oG65yc-01228-00278688-00278839 what the statistics and this is what's
VORk4oG65yc-01229-00278840-00278982 happening out there
VORk4oG65yc-01230-00278983-00279287 but we have women who are completely now
VORk4oG65yc-01231-00279288-00279471 traumatized by the fact that they've the
VORk4oG65yc-01232-00279472-00279671 the small job that they had they can no
VORk4oG65yc-01233-00279672-00279830 longer access that
VORk4oG65yc-01234-00279831-00279999 and like was said before you know where
VORk4oG65yc-01235-00280000-00280206 the man is the main bread winner and if
VORk4oG65yc-01236-00280207-00280399 he's unemployed and at home that's
VORk4oG65yc-01237-00280400-00280606 making it doubly worse for them
VORk4oG65yc-01238-00280607-00280775 so even if they were able to go and get
VORk4oG65yc-01239-00280776-00281015 a job the stigma of the woman working on
VORk4oG65yc-01240-00281016-00281167 the man not
VORk4oG65yc-01241-00281168-00281351 is still very very rife in their
VORk4oG65yc-01242-00281352-00281623 communities
VORk4oG65yc-01243-00281624-00281999 thank you
VORk4oG65yc-01244-00282000-00282230 thank you very much i think um
VORk4oG65yc-01245-00282231-00282519 joy mariam and sarah want to come in if
VORk4oG65yc-01246-00282520-00282855 that's okay of ugly's joy
VORk4oG65yc-01247-00282856-00283006 thank you thank you i'm going to quote
VORk4oG65yc-01248-00283007-00283310 the the faucet society again but over a
VORk4oG65yc-01249-00283311-00283519 fifth of bme women
VORk4oG65yc-01250-00283520-00283887 um in a study they did 21 felt that they
VORk4oG65yc-01251-00283888-00284119 were unfairly selected for furlough
VORk4oG65yc-01252-00284120-00284279 because of their race
VORk4oG65yc-01253-00284280-00284567 sex age disability or health condition
VORk4oG65yc-01254-00284568-00284710 compared to just
VORk4oG65yc-01255-00284711-00285030 one percent of white women
VORk4oG65yc-01256-00285031-00285134 so
VORk4oG65yc-01257-00285135-00285247 money has
VORk4oG65yc-01258-00285248-00285463 was often an issue within with when a
VORk4oG65yc-01259-00285464-00285639 minority ethnic woman was put on
VORk4oG65yc-01260-00285640-00285854 furlough clearly and their contribution
VORk4oG65yc-01261-00285855-00286134 to the household became less important
VORk4oG65yc-01262-00286135-00286351 and her value came under scrutiny
VORk4oG65yc-01263-00286352-00286543 there's definitely a gender imbalance in
VORk4oG65yc-01264-00286544-00286791 the perception of the value of work
VORk4oG65yc-01265-00286792-00287063 but lots of employment opportunities led
VORk4oG65yc-01266-00287064-00287327 to the loss of financial security and an
VORk4oG65yc-01267-00287328-00287606 increase in low value work
VORk4oG65yc-01268-00287607-00287830 zero contract at zero hours contracts
VORk4oG65yc-01269-00287831-00288151 for example reinforce the decreased
VORk4oG65yc-01270-00288152-00288375 self-belief and confidence so
VORk4oG65yc-01271-00288376-00288639 we heard a lot it's all i am worthy of
VORk4oG65yc-01272-00288640-00288903 no one else wants me and that
VORk4oG65yc-01273-00288904-00289223 horrible to hear that lower value jobs
VORk4oG65yc-01274-00289224-00289406 lead to decreased confidence and it's a
VORk4oG65yc-01275-00289407-00289615 downward spiral
VORk4oG65yc-01276-00289616-00289879 many of our cohort women
VORk4oG65yc-01277-00289880-00290151 had taken low-skilled jobs just to get
VORk4oG65yc-01278-00290152-00290279 some money in
VORk4oG65yc-01279-00290280-00290527 and we know they could do more than that
VORk4oG65yc-01280-00290528-00290727 and the pandemic has
VORk4oG65yc-01281-00290728-00290975 affected their decision capabilities and
VORk4oG65yc-01282-00290976-00291143 it's not their confidence as i keep
VORk4oG65yc-01283-00291144-00291439 saying um but fear of going for a job
VORk4oG65yc-01284-00291440-00291630 concern that it will affect much needed
VORk4oG65yc-01285-00291631-00291751 benefits
VORk4oG65yc-01286-00291752-00291982 there's also a fear of taking something
VORk4oG65yc-01287-00291983-00292167 else on and not being able to cope with
VORk4oG65yc-01288-00292168-00292295 it
VORk4oG65yc-01289-00292296-00292582 so um i do have um
VORk4oG65yc-01290-00292583-00292910 some thoughts on on this
VORk4oG65yc-01291-00292911-00293071 but i'm going to keep them for when we
VORk4oG65yc-01292-00293072-00293351 talk more about employment
VORk4oG65yc-01293-00293352-00294567 so thank you i'll let others speak
VORk4oG65yc-01294-00294568-00294791 i think we're wanting to go to maryam
VORk4oG65yc-01295-00294792-00295039 thank you so much joe um
VORk4oG65yc-01296-00295040-00295182 it just i don't want to kind of
VORk4oG65yc-01297-00295183-00295310 reiterate the points that are already
VORk4oG65yc-01298-00295311-00295543 being made um one thing that i would say
VORk4oG65yc-01299-00295544-00295758 is that really nobody goes to public
VORk4oG65yc-01300-00295759-00295927 funds i think has been quite a big
VORk4oG65yc-01301-00295928-00296134 impact on women um
VORk4oG65yc-01302-00296135-00296382 one thing that um now my background is
VORk4oG65yc-01303-00296383-00296558 actually in violence against women so
VORk4oG65yc-01304-00296559-00296727 that's the kind of specialism that i had
VORk4oG65yc-01305-00296728-00296951 so even while i was the chief executive
VORk4oG65yc-01306-00296952-00297158 and i'm still an am and i'm still doing
VORk4oG65yc-01307-00297159-00297391 in domestic abuse case work one thing
VORk4oG65yc-01308-00297392-00297710 that i did find was um
VORk4oG65yc-01309-00297711-00297903 services actually did improve for a lot
VORk4oG65yc-01310-00297904-00298079 of bme women with no recourse to public
VORk4oG65yc-01311-00298080-00298343 funds in the sense that um a lot of
VORk4oG65yc-01312-00298344-00298551 local authorities automatically gave
VORk4oG65yc-01313-00298552-00298663 women
VORk4oG65yc-01314-00298664-00298839 hotels to stay in rather than
VORk4oG65yc-01315-00298840-00299023 questioning and making them destitute
VORk4oG65yc-01316-00299024-00299310 however what we did find was that women
VORk4oG65yc-01317-00299311-00299487 were just given those hotels in like a
VORk4oG65yc-01318-00299488-00299654 basic food package there was really
VORk4oG65yc-01319-00299655-00299895 nothing else with that and so that was
VORk4oG65yc-01320-00299896-00300079 quite difficult and i think when it
VORk4oG65yc-01321-00300080-00300279 comes to looking at employability and
VORk4oG65yc-01322-00300280-00300471 employability options there's really two
VORk4oG65yc-01323-00300472-00300687 groups of women um you've got the one
VORk4oG65yc-01324-00300688-00300799 kind of group of women that are
VORk4oG65yc-01325-00300800-00300958 british-born cannot understand the
VORk4oG65yc-01326-00300959-00301167 system they know how to apply for jobs
VORk4oG65yc-01327-00301168-00301430 but again there is a lot of i would say
VORk4oG65yc-01328-00301431-00301606 racial inequality you kind of feel like
VORk4oG65yc-01329-00301607-00301830 am i getting passed out about these jobs
VORk4oG65yc-01330-00301831-00302039 because of my name or whatever and that
VORk4oG65yc-01331-00302040-00302230 kind of systemic racism is always quite
VORk4oG65yc-01332-00302231-00302454 difficult to prove but we've also got
VORk4oG65yc-01333-00302455-00302623 and we supported a lot of women that
VORk4oG65yc-01334-00302624-00302782 were maybe going for what we would call
VORk4oG65yc-01335-00302783-00303015 a lot of the low paid jobs but again
VORk4oG65yc-01336-00303016-00303263 digital inclusion was a big issue and
VORk4oG65yc-01337-00303264-00303551 even for warehouse jobs it was upload
VORk4oG65yc-01338-00303552-00303703 your cv online
VORk4oG65yc-01339-00303704-00303871 and send that to us and apply for the
VORk4oG65yc-01340-00303872-00304143 job online everything including payslips
VORk4oG65yc-01341-00304144-00304358 were online so we had women that were
VORk4oG65yc-01342-00304359-00304599 managing to maybe get a few of these low
VORk4oG65yc-01343-00304600-00304775 paid employments but they were finding
VORk4oG65yc-01344-00304776-00304927 them difficult to maintain they didn't
VORk4oG65yc-01345-00304928-00305127 know how to access their play slips
VORk4oG65yc-01346-00305128-00305367 again how to access any of those systems
VORk4oG65yc-01347-00305368-00305582 so again there was really nobody with
VORk4oG65yc-01348-00305583-00305863 that isolation and also the fact that
VORk4oG65yc-01349-00305864-00306087 you needed part-time work and so okay
VORk4oG65yc-01350-00306088-00306287 not having universal credit putting that
VORk4oG65yc-01351-00306288-00306479 kind of pressure on you to say that look
VORk4oG65yc-01352-00306480-00306679 you need to get a job um you need to get
VORk4oG65yc-01353-00306680-00306847 one asap or else there might be
VORk4oG65yc-01354-00306848-00307006 sanctions but at the same time you're
VORk4oG65yc-01355-00307007-00307134 looking for employment you're looking
VORk4oG65yc-01356-00307135-00307295 for part-time
VORk4oG65yc-01357-00307296-00307519 i i still think that the benefit system
VORk4oG65yc-01358-00307520-00307863 does not take into question that kind of
VORk4oG65yc-01359-00307864-00308143 pressure that women have for child care
VORk4oG65yc-01360-00308144-00308263 um
VORk4oG65yc-01361-00308264-00308463 so yeah thank you joe that was what i
VORk4oG65yc-01362-00308464-00309151 wanted to say about that thank you
VORk4oG65yc-01363-00309152-00309223 hi
VORk4oG65yc-01364-00309224-00309503 thank you um i i wanted to um yeah once
VORk4oG65yc-01365-00309504-00309743 again betrayed everything mariam and
VORk4oG65yc-01366-00309744-00310015 pharah and joy krishna um i wanted to
VORk4oG65yc-01367-00310016-00310351 just add two things on to um employment
VORk4oG65yc-01368-00310352-00310558 something that has come across a lot
VORk4oG65yc-01369-00310559-00310815 there was a story called closing the gap
VORk4oG65yc-01370-00310816-00310967 still not visible and he was talking
VORk4oG65yc-01371-00310968-00311230 about how again with you know the the
VORk4oG65yc-01372-00311231-00311439 cultures that we come from we
VORk4oG65yc-01373-00311440-00311799 we put service and family above most
VORk4oG65yc-01374-00311800-00311895 things
VORk4oG65yc-01375-00311896-00312158 and and that unfortunately that doesn't
VORk4oG65yc-01376-00312159-00312327 work to our favor when we come to
VORk4oG65yc-01377-00312328-00312534 interviews the star approach
VORk4oG65yc-01378-00312535-00312647 um
VORk4oG65yc-01379-00312648-00312927 interviews that are you know customary
VORk4oG65yc-01380-00312928-00313143 in scotland and the uk that benefit
VORk4oG65yc-01381-00313144-00313327 those that have grown up here those that
VORk4oG65yc-01382-00313328-00313543 actually went to nursery and started
VORk4oG65yc-01383-00313544-00313775 from a very young age to actually
VORk4oG65yc-01384-00313776-00313903 present
VORk4oG65yc-01385-00313904-00314110 and talk and boast about their
VORk4oG65yc-01386-00314111-00314382 achievements you know we are not
VORk4oG65yc-01387-00314383-00314575 educated that way and unfortunately
VORk4oG65yc-01388-00314576-00314823 that's why we miss out uh so in this
VORk4oG65yc-01389-00314824-00315039 study was really interesting interesting
VORk4oG65yc-01390-00315040-00315239 to see that feedback whenever we get
VORk4oG65yc-01391-00315240-00315479 feedback especially as women we get told
VORk4oG65yc-01392-00315480-00315591 that we're not quite the right
VORk4oG65yc-01393-00315592-00315743 personality even though we might have
VORk4oG65yc-01394-00315744-00315958 the same skill set and a similar
VORk4oG65yc-01395-00315959-00316158 experience that a white counterpart we
VORk4oG65yc-01396-00316159-00316415 just don't seem to sell ourselves as
VORk4oG65yc-01397-00316416-00316591 much and of course it is a vicious
VORk4oG65yc-01398-00316592-00316758 circle you know the more the longer you
VORk4oG65yc-01399-00316759-00316910 stay out of employment
VORk4oG65yc-01400-00316911-00317215 the longer it is to get back um
VORk4oG65yc-01401-00317216-00317406 and another really important thing that
VORk4oG65yc-01402-00317407-00317591 seems to be coming across through stock
VORk4oG65yc-01403-00317592-00317847 and the black workers committee is the
VORk4oG65yc-01404-00317848-00318079 the qualities act and how
VORk4oG65yc-01405-00318080-00318295 in principle like most things like color
VORk4oG65yc-01406-00318296-00318551 blindness um has been you know in
VORk4oG65yc-01407-00318552-00318727 principle sounds like like a good thing
VORk4oG65yc-01408-00318728-00318863 you know we are all equal but the
VORk4oG65yc-01409-00318864-00319079 problem is that doesn't seem as you know
VORk4oG65yc-01410-00319080-00319230 it's going back to what everybody else
VORk4oG65yc-01411-00319231-00319495 has said it that doesn't you know take
VORk4oG65yc-01412-00319496-00319751 the nuances and doesn't you know treat
VORk4oG65yc-01413-00319752-00319943 everybody like they need to be treated
VORk4oG65yc-01414-00319944-00320110 another big thing about the these
VORk4oG65yc-01415-00320111-00320351 protect characteristics and if you ever
VORk4oG65yc-01416-00320352-00320567 feel that you are the victim of
VORk4oG65yc-01417-00320568-00320839 injustice at work you then have to if
VORk4oG65yc-01418-00320840-00321047 you don't have a union then it's really
VORk4oG65yc-01419-00321048-00321334 hard to navigate how on earth the first
VORk4oG65yc-01420-00321335-00321543 thing you go to google it talks about uh
VORk4oG65yc-01421-00321544-00321791 you know an employment tribunal how on
VORk4oG65yc-01422-00321792-00322039 earth do you do that
VORk4oG65yc-01423-00322040-00322271 without actually facing being fired and
VORk4oG65yc-01424-00322272-00322479 you know and actually not having that
VORk4oG65yc-01425-00322480-00322751 income that you you you need
VORk4oG65yc-01426-00322752-00322991 um in addition to that and this is what
VORk4oG65yc-01427-00322992-00323287 i think would be a great thing for
VORk4oG65yc-01428-00323288-00323575 i i i my knowledge of laws and
VORk4oG65yc-01429-00323576-00323767 parliament is not good enough
VORk4oG65yc-01430-00323768-00323951 unfortunately but at the moment the you
VORk4oG65yc-01431-00323952-00324151 know the burden of proof
VORk4oG65yc-01432-00324152-00324439 lays on the victim so we all we have to
VORk4oG65yc-01433-00324440-00324615 be the ones that despite not having a
VORk4oG65yc-01434-00324616-00324782 job despite not having the right
VORk4oG65yc-01435-00324783-00325023 conditions despite having all these
VORk4oG65yc-01436-00325024-00325303 things to do at home it still comes to
VORk4oG65yc-01437-00325304-00325527 us to actually
VORk4oG65yc-01438-00325528-00325791 fix the problem and provide evidence and
VORk4oG65yc-01439-00325792-00326030 a lot of it is variable evidence and you
VORk4oG65yc-01440-00326031-00326134 know
VORk4oG65yc-01441-00326135-00326334 how do you prove that how do we prove
VORk4oG65yc-01442-00326335-00326567 that you know somebody you know gave us
VORk4oG65yc-01443-00326568-00326806 some nasty comments or unfair comments
VORk4oG65yc-01444-00326807-00327095 in a feedback how do we how do we prove
VORk4oG65yc-01445-00327096-00327247 that we didn't get the job because you
VORk4oG65yc-01446-00327248-00327447 know people think we might have another
VORk4oG65yc-01447-00327448-00327630 kid very soon you know because you know
VORk4oG65yc-01448-00327631-00327871 we're in that age and you know
VORk4oG65yc-01449-00327872-00328063 i'm likely to have another kid soon and
VORk4oG65yc-01450-00328064-00328206 actually no we don't want to give sarah
VORk4oG65yc-01451-00328207-00328351 that much responsibility because then we
VORk4oG65yc-01452-00328352-00328551 have to get a maternity leave cover you
VORk4oG65yc-01453-00328552-00328823 know how do we prove these things
VORk4oG65yc-01454-00328824-00329006 and i think that's you know the law
VORk4oG65yc-01455-00329007-00329143 needs to change we need to make it
VORk4oG65yc-01456-00329144-00329399 easier just just how the law for you
VORk4oG65yc-01457-00329400-00329606 know for rape is changing
VORk4oG65yc-01458-00329607-00329710 you know
VORk4oG65yc-01459-00329711-00329903 just like that it just needs to change
VORk4oG65yc-01460-00329904-00330047 um
VORk4oG65yc-01461-00330048-00330310 another thing that police scotland past
VORk4oG65yc-01462-00330311-00330430 part of my job i work with police
VORk4oG65yc-01463-00330431-00330687 scotland they talk about employment for
VORk4oG65yc-01464-00330688-00331039 the very first time ever 11 of their bme
VORk4oG65yc-01465-00331040-00331278 applicant officers passed the assessment
VORk4oG65yc-01466-00331279-00331503 center and they passed it because police
VORk4oG65yc-01467-00331504-00331734 scotland said we're doing it wrong we
VORk4oG65yc-01468-00331735-00332030 need to do it right and now what they do
VORk4oG65yc-01469-00332031-00332215 they got rid of this colorblindness they
VORk4oG65yc-01470-00332216-00332471 have a positive action team they call
VORk4oG65yc-01471-00332472-00332719 any applicant from a bme or a protected
VORk4oG65yc-01472-00332720-00332982 characteristic um and they call them and
VORk4oG65yc-01473-00332983-00333206 they ask them about their life what are
VORk4oG65yc-01474-00333207-00333430 you doing why are you applying and you
VORk4oG65yc-01475-00333431-00333615 know sometimes they have to postpone
VORk4oG65yc-01476-00333616-00333830 applications but for the first time 11
VORk4oG65yc-01477-00333831-00334087 out of 11 have come through and you know
VORk4oG65yc-01478-00334088-00334295 i am hopeful things can change and i i
VORk4oG65yc-01479-00334296-00334519 love the fact that we're invited here to
VORk4oG65yc-01480-00334520-00334806 to give testimony of what we have but of
VORk4oG65yc-01481-00334807-00334975 course you know anecdotal evidence just
VORk4oG65yc-01482-00334976-00335175 like krishna said needs to come into
VORk4oG65yc-01483-00335176-00335519 something solid doom please
VORk4oG65yc-01484-00335520-00336287 thank you
VORk4oG65yc-01485-00336288-00336495 okay thank you very much
VORk4oG65yc-01486-00336496-00336734 i'm not hearing pam so i'm gonna now
VORk4oG65yc-01487-00336735-00336982 move on to palm trees
VORk4oG65yc-01488-00336983-00337239 oh sorry convener would it be possible
VORk4oG65yc-01489-00337240-00337391 and do i have time to ask another
VORk4oG65yc-01490-00337392-00337503 question or do you want to come back to
VORk4oG65yc-01491-00337504-00337663 me at the end can i come back to you
VORk4oG65yc-01492-00337664-00337775 because i
VORk4oG65yc-01493-00337776-00337934 i will come back to you but just let's
VORk4oG65yc-01494-00337935-00338023 let's
VORk4oG65yc-01495-00338024-00338278 take it slightly longer maybe um pam
VORk4oG65yc-01496-00338279-00338558 gossel
VORk4oG65yc-01497-00338559-00338775 thank you convener and a thank you to
VORk4oG65yc-01498-00338776-00338887 the panel
VORk4oG65yc-01499-00338888-00339071 for their opening statements and also
VORk4oG65yc-01500-00339072-00339254 sharing their personal experience and
VORk4oG65yc-01501-00339255-00339406 the work they've done
VORk4oG65yc-01502-00339407-00339630 and i would also personally just like my
VORk4oG65yc-01503-00339631-00339863 colleague pam said like to thank all the
VORk4oG65yc-01504-00339864-00340095 work you've done for the beam community
VORk4oG65yc-01505-00340096-00340319 and women throughout the you know
VORk4oG65yc-01506-00340320-00340463 covered and
VORk4oG65yc-01507-00340464-00340606 before that
VORk4oG65yc-01508-00340607-00340806 my question is around that
VORk4oG65yc-01509-00340807-00340927 we heard
VORk4oG65yc-01510-00340928-00341119 in our last calls of the evidence and
VORk4oG65yc-01511-00341120-00341295 today we've heard this as well the
VORk4oG65yc-01512-00341296-00341534 restrictions of the pandemic put many
VORk4oG65yc-01513-00341535-00341854 women in a vulnerable position in terms
VORk4oG65yc-01514-00341855-00342078 of relying on the partners income and
VORk4oG65yc-01515-00342079-00342230 further interacting with support
VORk4oG65yc-01516-00342231-00342463 services which we've heard today
VORk4oG65yc-01517-00342464-00342719 i seek women's aid report drew attention
VORk4oG65yc-01518-00342720-00342830 to specific
VORk4oG65yc-01519-00342831-00342975 characteristics
VORk4oG65yc-01520-00342976-00343175 on domestic violence in the beam
VORk4oG65yc-01521-00343176-00343287 community
VORk4oG65yc-01522-00343288-00343543 the ethnic minority resilience network
VORk4oG65yc-01523-00343544-00343719 made recommendations
VORk4oG65yc-01524-00343720-00343958 that there should be investment in
VORk4oG65yc-01525-00343959-00344095 bespoke
VORk4oG65yc-01526-00344096-00344303 multilingual and multicultural mental
VORk4oG65yc-01527-00344304-00344527 health services which we heard today
VORk4oG65yc-01528-00344528-00344743 from trishna when she spoke about not
VORk4oG65yc-01529-00344744-00344951 one size fits all
VORk4oG65yc-01530-00344952-00345158 and so do you think in light of these
VORk4oG65yc-01531-00345159-00345310 findings that there should be more
VORk4oG65yc-01532-00345311-00345454 investment
VORk4oG65yc-01533-00345455-00345615 uh to provide
VORk4oG65yc-01534-00345616-00345871 facebook services in the third sector
VORk4oG65yc-01535-00345872-00346175 organizations was specific to capacity
VORk4oG65yc-01536-00346176-00346439 to reach out to beam women subject to
VORk4oG65yc-01537-00346440-00346606 domestic violence
VORk4oG65yc-01538-00346607-00346887 and my question goes out to first if
VORk4oG65yc-01539-00346888-00347103 farah can come on and then if it's okay
VORk4oG65yc-01540-00347104-00347343 krishna and if there's anybody else
VORk4oG65yc-01541-00347344-00347734 thank you
VORk4oG65yc-01542-00347735-00348006 thank you very much pam for that
VORk4oG65yc-01543-00348007-00348254 question and um
VORk4oG65yc-01544-00348255-00348439 my background
VORk4oG65yc-01545-00348440-00348863 is about supporting women as well who in
VORk4oG65yc-01546-00348864-00349151 through lived experience or
VORk4oG65yc-01547-00349152-00349415 who have survived and have supported
VORk4oG65yc-01548-00349416-00349678 a women of domestic violence as well
VORk4oG65yc-01549-00349679-00349839 during the pandemic
VORk4oG65yc-01550-00349840-00349982 um
VORk4oG65yc-01551-00349983-00350127 i
VORk4oG65yc-01552-00350128-00350463 believe and not me sorry um but
VORk4oG65yc-01553-00350464-00350606 there is
VORk4oG65yc-01554-00350607-00350727 a general
VORk4oG65yc-01555-00350728-00350823 lungs
VORk4oG65yc-01556-00350824-00350982 i'm trying to find the right way to
VORk4oG65yc-01557-00350983-00351215 articulate this money doesn't need to go
VORk4oG65yc-01558-00351216-00351375 into third sector organizations for
VORk4oG65yc-01559-00351376-00351639 these bespoke services money needs to
VORk4oG65yc-01560-00351640-00351775 actually get put into the public
VORk4oG65yc-01561-00351776-00351967 services to be able
VORk4oG65yc-01562-00351968-00352143 to provide
VORk4oG65yc-01563-00352144-00352463 the basic human rights of any women
VORk4oG65yc-01564-00352464-00352734 going through domestic violence
VORk4oG65yc-01565-00352735-00352882 for example
VORk4oG65yc-01566-00352883-00353191 um women that we have supported through
VORk4oG65yc-01567-00353192-00353406 domestic violence during lockdown
VORk4oG65yc-01568-00353407-00353478 we
VORk4oG65yc-01569-00353479-00353751 had there needs to be more
VORk4oG65yc-01570-00353752-00353975 cultural awareness within frontline
VORk4oG65yc-01571-00353976-00354263 police officers for example because at
VORk4oG65yc-01572-00354264-00354454 the end of the day when when we were in
VORk4oG65yc-01573-00354455-00354703 lockdown police were the first point of
VORk4oG65yc-01574-00354704-00354847 contact in
VORk4oG65yc-01575-00354848-00355023 any of these kind of situations and the
VORk4oG65yc-01576-00355024-00355206 fact that they're not aware
VORk4oG65yc-01577-00355207-00355527 of the cultural difficulties that speaks
VORk4oG65yc-01578-00355528-00355934 volumes in itself so it's not just about
VORk4oG65yc-01579-00355935-00356175 third sector it's our public services
VORk4oG65yc-01580-00356176-00356343 and when we talk about the mental health
VORk4oG65yc-01581-00356344-00356623 as well it has to be coming from public
VORk4oG65yc-01582-00356624-00356806 services why should it be down to
VORk4oG65yc-01583-00356807-00356991 voluntary and third sector organizations
VORk4oG65yc-01584-00356992-00357239 to fill the gaps and when the data and
VORk4oG65yc-01585-00357240-00357463 the evidence when everything is there to
VORk4oG65yc-01586-00357464-00357575 say that
VORk4oG65yc-01587-00357576-00357751 this is a real
VORk4oG65yc-01588-00357752-00357878 problem
VORk4oG65yc-01589-00357879-00357991 there is
VORk4oG65yc-01590-00357992-00358182 the potential the
VORk4oG65yc-01591-00358183-00358343 fix is there
VORk4oG65yc-01592-00358344-00358582 it's not going to be the perfect fix but
VORk4oG65yc-01593-00358583-00358767 it is a beginning and it should not be
VORk4oG65yc-01594-00358768-00359054 on the likes of um myself for example
VORk4oG65yc-01595-00359055-00359239 who also suffers from mental health
VORk4oG65yc-01596-00359240-00359334 issues
VORk4oG65yc-01597-00359335-00359567 but a to support
VORk4oG65yc-01598-00359568-00359791 other women who who are going through
VORk4oG65yc-01599-00359792-00359958 the same issue
VORk4oG65yc-01600-00359959-00360063 and
VORk4oG65yc-01601-00360064-00360199 so in
VORk4oG65yc-01602-00360200-00360375 short and
VORk4oG65yc-01603-00360376-00360743 not to third sector organizations solely
VORk4oG65yc-01604-00360744-00360982 but public services desperately needs
VORk4oG65yc-01605-00360983-00361254 that and desperately need that training
VORk4oG65yc-01606-00361255-00361423 and that's a lot of the work that again
VORk4oG65yc-01607-00361424-00361567 we're doing through simple scotland from
VORk4oG65yc-01608-00361568-00361782 the racy quality mainstreaming program
VORk4oG65yc-01609-00361783-00362030 is to instill that cultural awareness to
VORk4oG65yc-01610-00362031-00362230 those services from a leadership
VORk4oG65yc-01611-00362231-00362399 perspective and i think it does come
VORk4oG65yc-01612-00362400-00362543 back down to when we look at public
VORk4oG65yc-01613-00362544-00362806 sector leaders what diversity do we see
VORk4oG65yc-01614-00362807-00362975 there because if we don't see that
VORk4oG65yc-01615-00362976-00363215 diversity that empathy that sympathy is
VORk4oG65yc-01616-00363216-00363519 not there so therefore equalities
VORk4oG65yc-01617-00363520-00363719 especially you know looking at women in
VORk4oG65yc-01618-00363720-00363910 domestic violence situations that's
VORk4oG65yc-01619-00363911-00364039 always going to be something that's
VORk4oG65yc-01620-00364040-00364247 going to be an arm's length
VORk4oG65yc-01621-00364248-00364454 um issue it's not going to be something
VORk4oG65yc-01622-00364455-00364591 that hits home
VORk4oG65yc-01623-00364592-00364863 so that would be my um
VORk4oG65yc-01624-00364864-00365167 request to the committee today to
VORk4oG65yc-01625-00365168-00365334 certainly look at
VORk4oG65yc-01626-00365335-00365615 what and how effective is the
VORk4oG65yc-01627-00365616-00365943 implementation of race equality and
VORk4oG65yc-01628-00365944-00366199 frontline services and how would that be
VORk4oG65yc-01629-00366200-00366967 measured
VORk4oG65yc-01630-00366968-00367430 thank you for i think we have
VORk4oG65yc-01631-00367431-00367663 is krishna there
VORk4oG65yc-01632-00367664-00367871 yes thanks pam
VORk4oG65yc-01633-00367872-00367951 um
VORk4oG65yc-01634-00367952-00368182 again whatever far has raised i don't
VORk4oG65yc-01635-00368183-00368382 want to repeat it but i actually think
VORk4oG65yc-01636-00368383-00368606 that the issue about mainstreaming
VORk4oG65yc-01637-00368607-00369047 services being um inclusive is a long
VORk4oG65yc-01638-00369048-00369182 long journey that's been known for a
VORk4oG65yc-01639-00369183-00369439 very very long time and hence the reason
VORk4oG65yc-01640-00369440-00369615 that our organization and other
VORk4oG65yc-01641-00369616-00369871 organizations that work with vme
VORk4oG65yc-01642-00369872-00370119 communities are still around because
VORk4oG65yc-01643-00370120-00370295 we've been bridging that gap
VORk4oG65yc-01644-00370296-00370630 and about cultural awareness to staff of
VORk4oG65yc-01645-00370631-00370878 mental health services we and others
VORk4oG65yc-01646-00370879-00371110 have been doing that for many many years
VORk4oG65yc-01647-00371111-00371303 but the fact of the matter is if it's
VORk4oG65yc-01648-00371304-00371391 not
VORk4oG65yc-01649-00371392-00371582 if it's not embedded
VORk4oG65yc-01650-00371583-00371878 and the culture of those organizations
VORk4oG65yc-01651-00371879-00372015 it doesn't happen
VORk4oG65yc-01652-00372016-00372239 it happens as a piece of work and then
VORk4oG65yc-01653-00372240-00372447 it's moved on to the next piece of work
VORk4oG65yc-01654-00372448-00372599 and all the groundwork that has been
VORk4oG65yc-01655-00372600-00372815 done with one organization or one
VORk4oG65yc-01656-00372816-00373127 service provider is never handed on if
VORk4oG65yc-01657-00373128-00373271 those things had happened and i don't
VORk4oG65yc-01658-00373272-00373543 want to go on into you know reason that
VORk4oG65yc-01659-00373544-00373695 have been so many reports and
VORk4oG65yc-01660-00373696-00373991 consultations over the years and some
VORk4oG65yc-01661-00373992-00374167 amazing pieces of work done over
VORk4oG65yc-01662-00374168-00374406 three-year periods to actually discuss
VORk4oG65yc-01663-00374407-00374623 these issues and ask what the barriers
VORk4oG65yc-01664-00374624-00374854 are and be given the recommendations but
VORk4oG65yc-01665-00374855-00375047 nothing has changed and i think that's
VORk4oG65yc-01666-00375048-00375295 what the pandemic has brought out
VORk4oG65yc-01667-00375296-00375534 that this disparity is still there and
VORk4oG65yc-01668-00375535-00375751 it continues to be there and it will not
VORk4oG65yc-01669-00375752-00375991 change until the internal structures
VORk4oG65yc-01670-00375992-00376158 change
VORk4oG65yc-01671-00376159-00376487 that there is a huge issue here
VORk4oG65yc-01672-00376488-00376727 that people need to acknowledge and we
VORk4oG65yc-01673-00376728-00376902 need to move on it but it is about
VORk4oG65yc-01674-00376903-00377071 funding because that's what it comes
VORk4oG65yc-01675-00377072-00377310 down to if we're a small organization
VORk4oG65yc-01676-00377311-00377495 and if we don't have funding to even
VORk4oG65yc-01677-00377496-00377758 bridge that gap or be able to provide
VORk4oG65yc-01678-00377759-00377951 the cultural awareness to the mainstream
VORk4oG65yc-01679-00377952-00378127 services then how is that going to
VORk4oG65yc-01680-00378128-00378287 happen
VORk4oG65yc-01681-00378288-00378415 so there needs to be a real
VORk4oG65yc-01682-00378416-00378647 acknowledgement of how
VORk4oG65yc-01683-00378648-00378934 third sector bme organizations are
VORk4oG65yc-01684-00378935-00379054 funded
VORk4oG65yc-01685-00379055-00379143 and
VORk4oG65yc-01686-00379144-00379382 how they are able to help mainstream
VORk4oG65yc-01687-00379383-00379606 because in my in my opinion and this is
VORk4oG65yc-01688-00379607-00379799 from my personal point of view i was
VORk4oG65yc-01689-00379800-00380095 born in barack here i'm 68 years old and
VORk4oG65yc-01690-00380096-00380254 if i'm thinking we've been working for
VORk4oG65yc-01691-00380255-00380599 35 years in the voluntary sector and we
VORk4oG65yc-01692-00380600-00380823 are still when we are spoken to when we
VORk4oG65yc-01693-00380824-00381087 are invited somewhere we are still that
VORk4oG65yc-01694-00381088-00381215 add-on
VORk4oG65yc-01695-00381216-00381487 we're never part of the mainstream
VORk4oG65yc-01696-00381488-00381671 and that is something that really needs
VORk4oG65yc-01697-00381672-00381934 to be raised at the highest level
VORk4oG65yc-01698-00381935-00382215 but that the organizations continue to
VORk4oG65yc-01699-00382216-00382439 be in the third sector funded by the
VORk4oG65yc-01700-00382440-00382678 third sector and we're always everybody
VORk4oG65yc-01701-00382679-00382902 is always scrambling and looking for the
VORk4oG65yc-01702-00382903-00383158 funding to continue their very very
VORk4oG65yc-01703-00383159-00383519 vital services
VORk4oG65yc-01704-00383520-00383678 there are so many different bme
VORk4oG65yc-01705-00383679-00383871 communities where the women have come
VORk4oG65yc-01706-00383872-00384095 with different issues
VORk4oG65yc-01707-00384096-00384263 i'm talking about the sikh community
VORk4oG65yc-01708-00384264-00384454 there's the muslim community there's a
VORk4oG65yc-01709-00384455-00384743 south asian women who come from vietnam
VORk4oG65yc-01710-00384744-00384910 and thailand and places like that where
VORk4oG65yc-01711-00384911-00385230 do they go
VORk4oG65yc-01712-00385231-00385423 so i i really think that there needs to
VORk4oG65yc-01713-00385424-00385775 be change at the highest levels
VORk4oG65yc-01714-00385776-00385927 thank you
VORk4oG65yc-01715-00385928-00386127 thank you very much trisha for that and
VORk4oG65yc-01716-00386128-00386606 miriam you wanted to come in yet
VORk4oG65yc-01717-00386607-00386791 you and just kind of falling on from
VORk4oG65yc-01718-00386792-00387047 what trishna had said funding is always
VORk4oG65yc-01719-00387048-00387263 a big issue um as being the
VORk4oG65yc-01720-00387264-00387454 organizations were kind of pitted
VORk4oG65yc-01721-00387455-00387647 against one another and it really
VORk4oG65yc-01722-00387648-00387806 shouldn't be like that but the one thing
VORk4oG65yc-01723-00387807-00387951 that i would say in really working in
VORk4oG65yc-01724-00387952-00388119 the violence against women sector for so
VORk4oG65yc-01725-00388120-00388199 long
VORk4oG65yc-01726-00388200-00388351 there there's a few issues within
VORk4oG65yc-01727-00388352-00388551 scotland first of all we're not adopting
VORk4oG65yc-01728-00388552-00388754 the buy-in for model when it comes to
VORk4oG65yc-01729-00388755-00388991 third-sector organizations which means
VORk4oG65yc-01730-00388992-00389151 that if we are
VORk4oG65yc-01731-00389152-00389439 supporting vme women we should be an
VORk4oG65yc-01732-00389440-00389671 organization by the enemy women you've
VORk4oG65yc-01733-00389672-00389847 got a lot of organizations that have
VORk4oG65yc-01734-00389848-00390063 like bme add-ons however they don't have
VORk4oG65yc-01735-00390064-00390334 any pme women on their boards they don't
VORk4oG65yc-01736-00390335-00390639 have any bme women in senior management
VORk4oG65yc-01737-00390640-00390878 it's an absolute massive issue within
VORk4oG65yc-01738-00390879-00391023 scotland if we're really looking at
VORk4oG65yc-01739-00391024-00391287 equalities we've got a lot of third
VORk4oG65yc-01740-00391288-00391519 sector frontline organizations providing
VORk4oG65yc-01741-00391520-00391758 services for bme women but they really
VORk4oG65yc-01742-00391759-00392078 don't understand our experiences and
VORk4oG65yc-01743-00392079-00392327 with intersectionality and all the kind
VORk4oG65yc-01744-00392328-00392551 of issues that we face so it's kind of
VORk4oG65yc-01745-00392552-00392758 almost like a theoretical way of
VORk4oG65yc-01746-00392759-00392958 supporting us rather than an actual
VORk4oG65yc-01747-00392959-00393247 practical grassroots way um the other
VORk4oG65yc-01748-00393248-00393391 thing that i would say is when it comes
VORk4oG65yc-01749-00393392-00393623 to violence against women we're still
VORk4oG65yc-01750-00393624-00393839 really not there we're so far behind
VORk4oG65yc-01751-00393840-00394063 when it comes to looking at england and
VORk4oG65yc-01752-00394064-00394247 wales when it comes to supporting vmware
VORk4oG65yc-01753-00394248-00394454 women experiencing violence against
VORk4oG65yc-01754-00394455-00394751 women and in amna i think the amount of
VORk4oG65yc-01755-00394752-00395030 calls that we had and when i had started
VORk4oG65yc-01756-00395031-00395215 i had staff saying to me we're
VORk4oG65yc-01757-00395216-00395406 absolutely inundated with violence
VORk4oG65yc-01758-00395407-00395591 against women you know domestic abuse
VORk4oG65yc-01759-00395592-00395815 and that was my specialism we had to
VORk4oG65yc-01760-00395816-00396030 actually get funding elsewhere to just
VORk4oG65yc-01761-00396031-00396215 get a women's rights case worker just to
VORk4oG65yc-01762-00396216-00396439 support women with domestic abuse issues
VORk4oG65yc-01763-00396440-00396647 and that funding now comes to an end but
VORk4oG65yc-01764-00396648-00396847 one thing that i've always said is when
VORk4oG65yc-01765-00396848-00396982 it comes to supporting women
VORk4oG65yc-01766-00396983-00397206 experiencing domestic abuse especially
VORk4oG65yc-01767-00397207-00397463 nobody close to public funds it requires
VORk4oG65yc-01768-00397464-00397727 a lot more time and resources now when
VORk4oG65yc-01769-00397728-00397895 you're looking at organizations like
VORk4oG65yc-01770-00397896-00398071 amino six and joke all those
VORk4oG65yc-01771-00398072-00398319 organizations we're doing the exact same
VORk4oG65yc-01772-00398320-00398567 amount of work as other organizations
VORk4oG65yc-01773-00398568-00398799 however i would actually argue that the
VORk4oG65yc-01774-00398800-00398982 work that we're doing
VORk4oG65yc-01775-00398983-00399254 takes twice as long to deliver however
VORk4oG65yc-01776-00399255-00399478 our targets are the same the funding
VORk4oG65yc-01777-00399479-00399654 that we get is the same so actually we
VORk4oG65yc-01778-00399655-00399943 do need a lot more investment within
VORk4oG65yc-01779-00399944-00400110 organizations that are specialist
VORk4oG65yc-01780-00400111-00400343 services and yes you can have two
VORk4oG65yc-01781-00400344-00400527 women's rights organizations like amin
VORk4oG65yc-01782-00400528-00400702 and b and equals work that in seeks and
VORk4oG65yc-01783-00400703-00400895 joke because the work that we do is
VORk4oG65yc-01784-00400896-00401206 similar but different but also the women
VORk4oG65yc-01785-00401207-00401406 that we support it's a lot more time
VORk4oG65yc-01786-00401407-00401647 intensive but that does not seem to be
VORk4oG65yc-01787-00401648-00401887 accounted for anywhere especially when
VORk4oG65yc-01788-00401888-00402095 it comes to funding
VORk4oG65yc-01789-00402096-00402239 medium thank you for that convener if
VORk4oG65yc-01790-00402240-00402391 it's okay it's just a quick follow-up
VORk4oG65yc-01791-00402392-00402567 what my name's just said there them can
VORk4oG65yc-01792-00402568-00402727 ask the question and i think it applies
VORk4oG65yc-01793-00402728-00402919 to all the organizations because you've
VORk4oG65yc-01794-00402920-00403143 did a lot of really good work do you
VORk4oG65yc-01795-00403144-00403375 think that um being women are more
VORk4oG65yc-01796-00403376-00403510 comfortable
VORk4oG65yc-01797-00403511-00403751 coming to your organizations because you
VORk4oG65yc-01798-00403752-00404015 understand the kind of culture and um
VORk4oG65yc-01799-00404016-00404167 you know the family
VORk4oG65yc-01800-00404168-00404454 uh can a structure around everything i
VORk4oG65yc-01801-00404455-00404719 i'm not going to your usual um
VORk4oG65yc-01802-00404720-00404878 you've just said many third sector
VORk4oG65yc-01803-00404879-00405087 organizations that provide help for
VORk4oG65yc-01804-00405088-00405310 domestic abuse and you know
VORk4oG65yc-01805-00405311-00405495 doing mental health and even just direct
VORk4oG65yc-01806-00405496-00405710 domestic abuse do you think that's why
VORk4oG65yc-01807-00405711-00405854 they come along because they think that
VORk4oG65yc-01808-00405855-00406063 you feel that you understand it more and
VORk4oG65yc-01809-00406064-00406247 you did mention miriam that they don't
VORk4oG65yc-01810-00406248-00406430 see people like us i'm going to be
VORk4oG65yc-01811-00406431-00406678 honest right on those boards so they
VORk4oG65yc-01812-00406679-00406871 can't really and you know i did this all
VORk4oG65yc-01813-00406872-00407047 my life i can see people like me even in
VORk4oG65yc-01814-00407048-00407254 politics you know so i totally
VORk4oG65yc-01815-00407255-00407415 understand what you women are talking
VORk4oG65yc-01816-00407416-00407606 about today but do you think that's why
VORk4oG65yc-01817-00407607-00407863 they come to yourselves more
VORk4oG65yc-01818-00407864-00408063 you know i think it's a sense of you
VORk4oG65yc-01819-00408064-00408263 don't need to explain it as much so if
VORk4oG65yc-01820-00408264-00408463 you're coming to a specialist service
VORk4oG65yc-01821-00408464-00408654 you're not having to say something like
VORk4oG65yc-01822-00408655-00408902 you know you might have um the evil eye
VORk4oG65yc-01823-00408903-00409095 for example you know i'm sure pam you
VORk4oG65yc-01824-00409096-00409239 would know you know we're like oh but
VORk4oG65yc-01825-00409240-00409375 you know she's got evil lightning it's
VORk4oG65yc-01826-00409376-00409558 all those things that almost like sound
VORk4oG65yc-01827-00409559-00409695 like you're a bit insane for saying
VORk4oG65yc-01828-00409696-00409903 these things but these are genuine
VORk4oG65yc-01829-00409904-00410110 issues you know within our community you
VORk4oG65yc-01830-00410112-00410230 know if you're looking at spiritual
VORk4oG65yc-01831-00410231-00410447 abuse or black magic these are all kind
VORk4oG65yc-01832-00410447-00410599 of things if you were to kind of explain
VORk4oG65yc-01833-00410600-00410839 that to an out with organization they
VORk4oG65yc-01834-00410839-00411007 would probably think what is this person
VORk4oG65yc-01835-00411008-00411134 on but when you're coming to a
VORk4oG65yc-01836-00411135-00411351 specialist organization they just kind
VORk4oG65yc-01837-00411352-00411566 of get it but also i think it's about
VORk4oG65yc-01838-00411567-00411807 having that option there and sometimes
VORk4oG65yc-01839-00411808-00412007 we do put women towards specialist
VORk4oG65yc-01840-00412008-00412255 organizations because again we get it we
VORk4oG65yc-01841-00412256-00412447 understand there's that there's there's
VORk4oG65yc-01842-00412447-00412647 not that need to kind of explain and
VORk4oG65yc-01843-00412647-00412966 explain but also i would say that other
VORk4oG65yc-01844-00412967-00413166 normal mainstream organizations just
VORk4oG65yc-01845-00413167-00413295 don't have
VORk4oG65yc-01846-00413296-00413574 they do have the understanding but when
VORk4oG65yc-01847-00413575-00413822 they realize how time intensive it is
VORk4oG65yc-01848-00413823-00413999 but it's almost like we take it we just
VORk4oG65yc-01849-00414000-00414191 know that yet this is what we need to do
VORk4oG65yc-01850-00414192-00414351 for no recourse to public funds or
VORk4oG65yc-01851-00414352-00414463 whatever
VORk4oG65yc-01852-00414464-00414630 and then i would say that organizations
VORk4oG65yc-01853-00414631-00414782 like ourselves we've almost built that
VORk4oG65yc-01854-00414783-00414974 in that we know that the work that we do
VORk4oG65yc-01855-00414975-00415222 is actually much harder i would say but
VORk4oG65yc-01856-00415223-00415407 yeah i would say that we definitely do
VORk4oG65yc-01857-00415408-00415630 provide that bespoke service but so do
VORk4oG65yc-01858-00415631-00415934 all bme organizations but again
VORk4oG65yc-01859-00415935-00416199 i mean the biggest part for me again is
VORk4oG65yc-01860-00416200-00416495 the qualities if you are providing a bme
VORk4oG65yc-01861-00416496-00416718 service absolutely brilliant but make
VORk4oG65yc-01862-00416719-00416951 sure that you've got bme women either on
VORk4oG65yc-01863-00416952-00417110 your board or in senior management
VORk4oG65yc-01864-00417112-00417295 because otherwise you're not truly
VORk4oG65yc-01865-00417296-00417559 providing that service to our community
VORk4oG65yc-01866-00417560-00417734 to up for us to actually have that equal
VORk4oG65yc-01867-00417735-00417974 footing
VORk4oG65yc-01868-00417975-00418110 thank you very much marilyn thank you
VORk4oG65yc-01869-00418112-00418374 very much ladies overtaking wheeler
VORk4oG65yc-01870-00418375-00418622 i i think there's a few for once again
VORk4oG65yc-01871-00418623-00418791 but i think sarah hasn't hasn't
VORk4oG65yc-01872-00418792-00418999 contributed to this better debate so you
VORk4oG65yc-01873-00419000-00419270 know and i'm sorry to other keem to get
VORk4oG65yc-01874-00419271-00419463 back in again there just isn't time
VORk4oG65yc-01875-00419464-00419639 but sarah
VORk4oG65yc-01876-00419639-00419814 yes thank you i'll be very quick i
VORk4oG65yc-01877-00419815-00420110 totally agree with what maria have said
VORk4oG65yc-01878-00420112-00420343 my pup my bme pupils always tell me
VORk4oG65yc-01879-00420343-00420622 exactly as as mariam said is not that
VORk4oG65yc-01880-00420623-00420783 it's not that why people won't help us
VORk4oG65yc-01881-00420784-00420903 it's not that why teachers want to
VORk4oG65yc-01882-00420904-00421031 understand what we're talking about is
VORk4oG65yc-01883-00421032-00421191 that it just takes them longer to get
VORk4oG65yc-01884-00421192-00421566 there um so yes definitely and you know
VORk4oG65yc-01885-00421567-00421766 sometimes it is a language barrier it
VORk4oG65yc-01886-00421767-00421951 doesn't we don't have to speak the same
VORk4oG65yc-01887-00421952-00422263 language i find sometimes uh that just
VORk4oG65yc-01888-00422264-00422455 you know from looking at each other
VORk4oG65yc-01889-00422456-00422631 knowing that we are people of color we
VORk4oG65yc-01890-00422632-00422799 know that we have experienced certain
VORk4oG65yc-01891-00422800-00423039 things we understand you know that we
VORk4oG65yc-01892-00423039-00423222 understand what that stamp on our
VORk4oG65yc-01893-00423223-00423399 passport means when he says no recourse
VORk4oG65yc-01894-00423400-00423607 to public funds you know
VORk4oG65yc-01895-00423608-00423791 yeah we know not only understand that we
VORk4oG65yc-01896-00423792-00424095 know what it feels like thank you
VORk4oG65yc-01897-00424096-00424303 thank you very much if you can now move
VORk4oG65yc-01898-00424304-00424591 on to current adam please
VORk4oG65yc-01899-00424592-00424766 thank you convener and thank you to the
VORk4oG65yc-01900-00424767-00424863 panel
VORk4oG65yc-01901-00424864-00425110 um your answers have just been you know
VORk4oG65yc-01902-00425112-00425287 overwhelmingly just
VORk4oG65yc-01903-00425288-00425535 fully comprehensive and i really have
VORk4oG65yc-01904-00425535-00425807 gained and expanded my education on this
VORk4oG65yc-01905-00425808-00426014 this morning so i really do thank you
VORk4oG65yc-01906-00426015-00426207 for that and for that opportunity for
VORk4oG65yc-01907-00426208-00426366 myself
VORk4oG65yc-01908-00426367-00426487 looking at the
VORk4oG65yc-01909-00426488-00426670 british medical journal study from
VORk4oG65yc-01910-00426671-00426831 september of last year on the lived
VORk4oG65yc-01911-00426832-00427014 experiences during the pandemic of
VORk4oG65yc-01912-00427015-00427310 minority ethnic women in terms of access
VORk4oG65yc-01913-00427312-00427583 and experiences of maternity care
VORk4oG65yc-01914-00427584-00427855 and it includes the experience of their
VORk4oG65yc-01915-00427856-00427999 physical and mental health and
VORk4oG65yc-01916-00428000-00428255 well-being there are four emergent
VORk4oG65yc-01917-00428256-00428527 themes including communication
VORk4oG65yc-01918-00428528-00428663 interactions with healthcare
VORk4oG65yc-01919-00428664-00428943 professionals racism and the effect of
VORk4oG65yc-01920-00428943-00429103 the pandemic
VORk4oG65yc-01921-00429104-00429199 with
VORk4oG65yc-01922-00429200-00429527 further sub themes identified
VORk4oG65yc-01923-00429528-00429751 i want to really hone down on the
VORk4oG65yc-01924-00429752-00429895 communication aspect of this
VORk4oG65yc-01925-00429896-00430087 communication or lack thereof played a
VORk4oG65yc-01926-00430088-00430303 major role in the participants
VORk4oG65yc-01927-00430304-00430495 perceptions of whether they were
VORk4oG65yc-01928-00430496-00430718 receiving acceptable care
VORk4oG65yc-01929-00430719-00430943 this consisted of routine or emergency
VORk4oG65yc-01930-00430943-00431183 interactions with midwives obstetricians
VORk4oG65yc-01931-00431184-00431327 general practitioners and health
VORk4oG65yc-01932-00431328-00431479 visitors
VORk4oG65yc-01933-00431480-00431718 so despite the high standard of english
VORk4oG65yc-01934-00431719-00431935 spoken most participants felt that
VORk4oG65yc-01935-00431935-00432127 language barriers were the most common
VORk4oG65yc-01936-00432128-00432351 cause of miscommunication between
VORk4oG65yc-01937-00432352-00432583 themselves and healthcare professionals
VORk4oG65yc-01938-00432584-00432783 they concurrently felt that they
VORk4oG65yc-01939-00432784-00432983 themselves were more likely to make
VORk4oG65yc-01940-00432984-00433239 inappropriate decisions regarding their
VORk4oG65yc-01941-00433239-00433407 health care as a result of
VORk4oG65yc-01942-00433408-00433631 misinterpretation
VORk4oG65yc-01943-00433632-00433822 i would like to ask you is this
VORk4oG65yc-01944-00433823-00434070 reflected across society not just in
VORk4oG65yc-01945-00434071-00434359 healthcare but in financial social
VORk4oG65yc-01946-00434360-00434543 education and more
VORk4oG65yc-01947-00434543-00434807 and how do you see progress being made
VORk4oG65yc-01948-00434808-00435110 in addressing this issue um could i open
VORk4oG65yc-01949-00435112-00435663 up to mariam to start with please
VORk4oG65yc-01950-00435664-00435943 thank you so much karen um when it comes
VORk4oG65yc-01951-00435943-00436207 to i think health and access to health
VORk4oG65yc-01952-00436208-00436343 um
VORk4oG65yc-01953-00436343-00436503 it's interesting that you say that
VORk4oG65yc-01954-00436504-00436687 communication has been an issue even
VORk4oG65yc-01955-00436688-00436870 although the language barriers have
VORk4oG65yc-01956-00436871-00437095 maybe not been there but i would kind of
VORk4oG65yc-01957-00437096-00437263 maybe say is it maybe because there's
VORk4oG65yc-01958-00437264-00437559 maybe been communication on our part or
VORk4oG65yc-01959-00437560-00437775 already preconceived judgments on
VORk4oG65yc-01960-00437776-00438007 healthcare from healthcare professionals
VORk4oG65yc-01961-00438008-00438239 on bme women um you know certainly we've
VORk4oG65yc-01962-00438239-00438447 had a lot of vmu women that you know
VORk4oG65yc-01963-00438447-00438614 have maybe gone through maternity care
VORk4oG65yc-01964-00438615-00438831 etc um and the way they've maybe been
VORk4oG65yc-01965-00438832-00439055 spoken to or treated but actually when
VORk4oG65yc-01966-00439056-00439183 they started speaking they're like well
VORk4oG65yc-01967-00439184-00439318 actually we're british born we know what
VORk4oG65yc-01968-00439319-00439439 we're speaking about you know or
VORk4oG65yc-01969-00439439-00439718 whatever or a lot of bme women um have
VORk4oG65yc-01970-00439719-00440047 actually experienced um a lot of racism
VORk4oG65yc-01971-00440047-00440279 within the health care system um a lot
VORk4oG65yc-01972-00440280-00440463 of well you know is she exaggerating or
VORk4oG65yc-01973-00440464-00440687 she's not understanding um or just just
VORk4oG65yc-01974-00440688-00440870 trying to get that service and there was
VORk4oG65yc-01975-00440871-00441199 a lot of triage calls etc so um that was
VORk4oG65yc-01976-00441200-00441366 i think a big barrier for a lot of bme
VORk4oG65yc-01977-00441367-00441551 women because it was very much like can
VORk4oG65yc-01978-00441552-00441695 you just tell me on the phone what's
VORk4oG65yc-01979-00441696-00441903 wrong with you um and you know i think
VORk4oG65yc-01980-00441904-00442087 that created a lot of barrier for being
VORk4oG65yc-01981-00442088-00442295 women but i really think when it comes
VORk4oG65yc-01982-00442296-00442599 to communication um especially when it
VORk4oG65yc-01983-00442600-00442807 comes to health services i actually
VORk4oG65yc-01984-00442808-00443031 think from my experience of supporting
VORk4oG65yc-01985-00443032-00443222 so many bme women a lot of them are not
VORk4oG65yc-01986-00443223-00443439 actually taken seriously um you know
VORk4oG65yc-01987-00443439-00443622 we've actually had that we've actually
VORk4oG65yc-01988-00443623-00443814 had to go to doctor surgeries and
VORk4oG65yc-01989-00443815-00443983 midwives and nurses appointments to
VORk4oG65yc-01990-00443984-00444239 actually explain certain things so there
VORk4oG65yc-01991-00444239-00444439 is that kind of i would say a lot of
VORk4oG65yc-01992-00444439-00444631 discrimination within the health care
VORk4oG65yc-01993-00444632-00444983 system still with bme women
VORk4oG65yc-01994-00444984-00445095 thank you
VORk4oG65yc-01995-00445096-00445270 um i noticed
VORk4oG65yc-01996-00445271-00445607 krishna wants to come in here
VORk4oG65yc-01997-00445608-00445910 yeah thanks karen um i don't i think um
VORk4oG65yc-01998-00445912-00446103 everything that has been said before is
VORk4oG65yc-01999-00446104-00446287 right but i'm i you know i can give you
VORk4oG65yc-02000-00446288-00446447 a couple of examples that happened
VORk4oG65yc-02001-00446447-00446599 during the pandemic
VORk4oG65yc-02002-00446600-00446814 and as from a personal point of view
VORk4oG65yc-02003-00446815-00447022 somebody that was pregnant taken into
VORk4oG65yc-02004-00447023-00447222 hospital we were it was it was the
VORk4oG65yc-02005-00447223-00447375 lockdown she wasn't allowed to have any
VORk4oG65yc-02006-00447376-00447583 of it because of her mental health there
VORk4oG65yc-02007-00447584-00447775 were there was an explanation from the
VORk4oG65yc-02008-00447776-00448022 doctor to the um simpsons to say that
VORk4oG65yc-02009-00448023-00448263 this person is coming in got real you
VORk4oG65yc-02010-00448264-00448518 know very mentally unstable just now
VORk4oG65yc-02011-00448519-00448647 because of um
VORk4oG65yc-02012-00448647-00448831 her health and um but she's expecting
VORk4oG65yc-02013-00448832-00449055 the baby will be accompanied by her
VORk4oG65yc-02014-00449056-00449270 mother and husband we went up went
VORk4oG65yc-02015-00449271-00449583 inside and the reception was fine the
VORk4oG65yc-02016-00449584-00449839 midwife came out and she stood in front
VORk4oG65yc-02017-00449839-00449951 of
VORk4oG65yc-02018-00449952-00450183 the person and the mother of the child
VORk4oG65yc-02019-00450184-00450375 and the wheelchair the pregnant lady in
VORk4oG65yc-02020-00450376-00450583 the wheelchair the husband's the next
VORk4oG65yc-02021-00450584-00450807 chair and the mother supporting her and
VORk4oG65yc-02022-00450808-00450999 the midwife looked at the girl in the
VORk4oG65yc-02023-00451000-00451270 wheelchair and said to her does she
VORk4oG65yc-02024-00451271-00451463 does she know
VORk4oG65yc-02025-00451464-00451735 is she your mother or is she his mother
VORk4oG65yc-02026-00451735-00451943 and does she know that she shouldn't be
VORk4oG65yc-02027-00451943-00452231 here
VORk4oG65yc-02028-00452232-00452670 um you know and this i was so shocked
VORk4oG65yc-02029-00452671-00452951 and so upset by this this woman speaking
VORk4oG65yc-02030-00452952-00453047 like that
VORk4oG65yc-02031-00453047-00453191 and i thought
VORk4oG65yc-02032-00453192-00453359 and it was actually it was so personal
VORk4oG65yc-02033-00453360-00453583 like i'm sharing it because i feel that
VORk4oG65yc-02034-00453584-00453791 people need to hear this this was me
VORk4oG65yc-02035-00453792-00454063 with my daughter
VORk4oG65yc-02036-00454064-00454383 this woman looked at me and said she
VORk4oG65yc-02037-00454384-00454510 and then i turned around and i said to
VORk4oG65yc-02038-00454512-00454743 her she knows exactly what she's talking
VORk4oG65yc-02039-00454743-00454831 about
VORk4oG65yc-02040-00454832-00455039 and she's here because the doctor
VORk4oG65yc-02041-00455039-00455255 advised her to come here and this was
VORk4oG65yc-02042-00455256-00455399 just
VORk4oG65yc-02043-00455400-00455510 right in the middle of the first
VORk4oG65yc-02044-00455512-00455799 lockdown
VORk4oG65yc-02045-00455800-00455910 and you know
VORk4oG65yc-02046-00455912-00456135 it was i was so shocked by all i came
VORk4oG65yc-02047-00456135-00456359 out i was literally shaking and i stood
VORk4oG65yc-02048-00456360-00456543 outside and i thought to myself
VORk4oG65yc-02049-00456543-00456855 if this is how i'm being treated
VORk4oG65yc-02050-00456856-00457087 and i consider myself to be an
VORk4oG65yc-02051-00457088-00457318 articulate person who understands
VORk4oG65yc-02052-00457319-00457470 everything i hate to think what's
VORk4oG65yc-02053-00457471-00457647 happening to somebody that would really
VORk4oG65yc-02054-00457647-00457839 come in here with a mother that might
VORk4oG65yc-02055-00457839-00458095 have difficulty with english
VORk4oG65yc-02056-00458096-00458183 so
VORk4oG65yc-02057-00458184-00458407 very painfully you have to admit and i
VORk4oG65yc-02058-00458408-00458639 find it really painful to admit this the
VORk4oG65yc-02059-00458639-00458870 discrimination within the hospitals is
VORk4oG65yc-02060-00458871-00459143 it's just terrible if you get somebody
VORk4oG65yc-02061-00459143-00459351 and there is and that's a shame because
VORk4oG65yc-02062-00459352-00459599 you don't want to tie everybody with the
VORk4oG65yc-02063-00459600-00459855 same brush and the nhs frontline staff
VORk4oG65yc-02064-00459856-00460110 have done amazing work
VORk4oG65yc-02065-00460112-00460407 but these situations are still happening
VORk4oG65yc-02066-00460408-00460543 and then when you're talking about the
VORk4oG65yc-02067-00460543-00460799 surfaces i mean there's a perinatal team
VORk4oG65yc-02068-00460800-00460983 that's based in livingston and we've
VORk4oG65yc-02069-00460984-00461214 never heard of it but they support women
VORk4oG65yc-02070-00461215-00461366 who are pregnant and have had mental
VORk4oG65yc-02071-00461367-00461559 health problems or maybe have a mental
VORk4oG65yc-02072-00461560-00461766 health illness that they're dealing with
VORk4oG65yc-02073-00461767-00461959 and that perinatal service has never
VORk4oG65yc-02074-00461960-00462175 worked with anybody from any ethnic
VORk4oG65yc-02075-00462176-00462407 community
VORk4oG65yc-02076-00462408-00462614 so there's there's things there that are
VORk4oG65yc-02077-00462615-00462807 out there that people are not accessing
VORk4oG65yc-02078-00462808-00462975 because they don't know about them
VORk4oG65yc-02079-00462976-00463191 or they're not being by the doctors now
VORk4oG65yc-02080-00463192-00463503 i'm assuming that perinatal team that's
VORk4oG65yc-02081-00463504-00463679 you know from a doctor of surgery if you
VORk4oG65yc-02082-00463680-00463863 have a mental health nurse there
VORk4oG65yc-02083-00463864-00464070 somebody should be able to refer people
VORk4oG65yc-02084-00464071-00464263 on to that
VORk4oG65yc-02085-00464264-00464455 and so there's gaps there where people
VORk4oG65yc-02086-00464456-00464631 are losing out in services because they
VORk4oG65yc-02087-00464632-00464807 don't know about them and it's not all
VORk4oG65yc-02088-00464808-00465007 down to the language barriers and
VORk4oG65yc-02089-00465008-00465255 everything like i said a vast majority
VORk4oG65yc-02090-00465256-00465487 of the women that we deal with are all
VORk4oG65yc-02091-00465488-00465639 first second third fourth fifth
VORk4oG65yc-02092-00465639-00465847 generation morning brought up here but
VORk4oG65yc-02093-00465847-00466063 actually sadly the color we just skin
VORk4oG65yc-02094-00466064-00466175 matter
VORk4oG65yc-02095-00466176-00466343 as you walk in somewhere in the chat
VORk4oG65yc-02096-00466343-00466479 some people just take one look at you
VORk4oG65yc-02097-00466480-00466863 think she can't speak english
VORk4oG65yc-02098-00466864-00467343 so it's a sad state of affairs
VORk4oG65yc-02099-00467343-00467470 okay
VORk4oG65yc-02100-00467471-00467631 thank you thank you trish now that was
VORk4oG65yc-02101-00467632-00467966 um it really um heartfelt and um
VORk4oG65yc-02102-00467967-00468335 enlightening um although sad to hear
VORk4oG65yc-02103-00468335-00468518 but it does um
VORk4oG65yc-02104-00468519-00468759 expand upon the the question
VORk4oG65yc-02105-00468760-00468966 in regards to the communication and not
VORk4oG65yc-02106-00468967-00469591 just spoken english
VORk4oG65yc-02107-00469592-00469831 i don't think anybody else has
VORk4oG65yc-02108-00469832-00470039 asked to come in their convener
VORk4oG65yc-02109-00470039-00470207 okay thanks
VORk4oG65yc-02110-00470208-00470295 now
VORk4oG65yc-02111-00470296-00470439 they're just popping they're just
VORk4oG65yc-02112-00470439-00470695 popping in the chat now
VORk4oG65yc-02113-00470696-00471087 yeah enjoy
VORk4oG65yc-02114-00471088-00471279 yeah
VORk4oG65yc-02115-00471280-00471422 sorry yes i thought you were telling us
VORk4oG65yc-02116-00471423-00471614 that there was little time to come back
VORk4oG65yc-02117-00471615-00471887 so i didn't want to uh
VORk4oG65yc-02118-00471888-00472070 so just try to keep time for after each
VORk4oG65yc-02119-00472071-00472207 of the committee members have a question
VORk4oG65yc-02120-00472208-00472583 so um
VORk4oG65yc-02121-00472584-00472695 just wanted to come back to that
VORk4oG65yc-02122-00472696-00472895 question of language because we've
VORk4oG65yc-02123-00472896-00473143 noticed this too um and
VORk4oG65yc-02124-00473143-00473503 and also as aai we know our limitations
VORk4oG65yc-02125-00473504-00473743 i have a very diverse team but if we
VORk4oG65yc-02126-00473743-00473927 have a domestic abuse problem we
VORk4oG65yc-02127-00473928-00474127 transfer them we will relate them but we
VORk4oG65yc-02128-00474128-00474479 do go to you the local the well-known
VORk4oG65yc-02129-00474480-00474687 the young the small
VORk4oG65yc-02130-00474688-00474959 organizations in the third sector so we
VORk4oG65yc-02131-00474960-00475239 have a list of you all and we give those
VORk4oG65yc-02132-00475239-00475510 to the women so we trust you i have to
VORk4oG65yc-02133-00475512-00475655 say that
VORk4oG65yc-02134-00475656-00475751 um
VORk4oG65yc-02135-00475752-00475910 language
VORk4oG65yc-02136-00475912-00476095 um the
VORk4oG65yc-02137-00476096-00476335 the thing that we have noticed is that
VORk4oG65yc-02138-00476335-00476599 language of our minority ethnic women
VORk4oG65yc-02139-00476600-00476822 while looking for work has deteriorated
VORk4oG65yc-02140-00476823-00477191 through coded and and this is absolutely
VORk4oG65yc-02141-00477192-00477287 a
VORk4oG65yc-02142-00477288-00477559 key to their employment
VORk4oG65yc-02143-00477560-00477639 now
VORk4oG65yc-02144-00477639-00477799 zoom isn't helping
VORk4oG65yc-02145-00477800-00478039 they've not met many people lately
VORk4oG65yc-02146-00478039-00478263 they've been in isolation for all the
VORk4oG65yc-02147-00478264-00478439 reasons we know about
VORk4oG65yc-02148-00478439-00478735 their mental health has deteriorated and
VORk4oG65yc-02149-00478735-00478935 with that their command of the english
VORk4oG65yc-02150-00478935-00479047 language
VORk4oG65yc-02151-00479047-00479318 um so that just has to be taken into
VORk4oG65yc-02152-00479319-00479631 consideration um i i
VORk4oG65yc-02153-00479632-00479870 we noticed that the portals on zoom
VORk4oG65yc-02154-00479871-00480087 people take about
VORk4oG65yc-02155-00480088-00480399 four weeks to actually work through that
VORk4oG65yc-02156-00480400-00480670 shyness to talk and then they're there
VORk4oG65yc-02157-00480671-00480918 um so i yeah that has to be factored
VORk4oG65yc-02158-00480919-00481039 into this
VORk4oG65yc-02159-00481039-00481139 um
VORk4oG65yc-02160-00481141-00481359 [Music]
VORk4oG65yc-02161-00481360-00481510 okay that's what i wanted to say thank
VORk4oG65yc-02162-00481512-00481799 you thank you thank you so much friends
VORk4oG65yc-02163-00481800-00481999 hi i just went
VORk4oG65yc-02164-00482000-00482207 yeah i wanted to just uh add another
VORk4oG65yc-02165-00482208-00482591 comment um um about uh healthcare
VORk4oG65yc-02166-00482592-00482759 into something on the back of what
VORk4oG65yc-02167-00482760-00483014 krishna um has said i
VORk4oG65yc-02168-00483015-00483214 the story i would like to just say um
VORk4oG65yc-02169-00483215-00483375 from from the work that i've been doing
VORk4oG65yc-02170-00483376-00483495 in
VORk4oG65yc-02171-00483496-00483695 um a course uh run by education in
VORk4oG65yc-02172-00483696-00483927 scotland building racial literacies and
VORk4oG65yc-02173-00483928-00484127 also the work with stock we know that
VORk4oG65yc-02174-00484128-00484391 different bme communities are affected
VORk4oG65yc-02175-00484392-00484535 differently and of course you know the
VORk4oG65yc-02176-00484535-00484647 the more
VORk4oG65yc-02177-00484647-00484855 uh the more you defer from the the
VORk4oG65yc-02178-00484856-00485095 scottish white standard the more of a
VORk4oG65yc-02179-00485096-00485383 target you become um so i'm sorry and
VORk4oG65yc-02180-00485384-00485639 you know yes i i have had times as well
VORk4oG65yc-02181-00485639-00485887 where people you know will just you know
VORk4oG65yc-02182-00485888-00486062 speak picked me loudly and slowly just
VORk4oG65yc-02183-00486063-00486310 in case i don't understand what they say
VORk4oG65yc-02184-00486312-00486439 um
VORk4oG65yc-02185-00486439-00486743 but i wanted to to just to say that
VORk4oG65yc-02186-00486743-00486975 there are communities that are affected
VORk4oG65yc-02187-00486976-00487143 much more than others and that needs to
VORk4oG65yc-02188-00487143-00487359 be understood that you know people of
VORk4oG65yc-02189-00487360-00487599 color will will suffer different types
VORk4oG65yc-02190-00487600-00487862 of discrimination um language of course
VORk4oG65yc-02191-00487863-00488055 um is one of them i wanted to share
VORk4oG65yc-02192-00488056-00488287 something uh when i when the midwife
VORk4oG65yc-02193-00488288-00488470 registered my child
VORk4oG65yc-02194-00488471-00488566 um
VORk4oG65yc-02195-00488567-00488839 they didn't want to register as
VORk4oG65yc-02196-00488839-00488943 other
VORk4oG65yc-02197-00488943-00489022 so
VORk4oG65yc-02198-00489023-00489270 they wanted to register him as white you
VORk4oG65yc-02199-00489271-00489431 know and i'm not white and my partner
VORk4oG65yc-02200-00489432-00489599 isn't white and you know he certainly
VORk4oG65yc-02201-00489600-00489910 doesn't look quite um
VORk4oG65yc-02202-00489912-00490055 i don't know
VORk4oG65yc-02203-00490056-00490303 it felt almost like okay so you guys you
VORk4oG65yc-02204-00490304-00490447 you're up you know you're the half is a
VORk4oG65yc-02205-00490447-00490614 ph student you're a teacher you're
VORk4oG65yc-02206-00490615-00490759 somehow
VORk4oG65yc-02207-00490760-00491055 not quite be a me because it felt it's
VORk4oG65yc-02208-00491056-00491270 not wrong um and that's all i can say
VORk4oG65yc-02209-00491271-00491447 thank you
VORk4oG65yc-02210-00491447-00491695 thank you thanks hello
VORk4oG65yc-02211-00491696-00492031 good thank thanks very much thanks khan
VORk4oG65yc-02212-00492032-00492470 can i go to alexander stewart please
VORk4oG65yc-02213-00492471-00492783 thank you convina and can i just commend
VORk4oG65yc-02214-00492784-00492959 uh the outstanding contributions we've
VORk4oG65yc-02215-00492960-00493159 heard this morning during this evidence
VORk4oG65yc-02216-00493160-00493391 session it has really been quite
VORk4oG65yc-02217-00493392-00493566 enlightening
VORk4oG65yc-02218-00493567-00493783 i want to once again go back and look at
VORk4oG65yc-02219-00493784-00494055 the education training and employment
VORk4oG65yc-02220-00494056-00494407 uh you made it quite clear today uh that
VORk4oG65yc-02221-00494408-00494647 there is definitely a need
VORk4oG65yc-02222-00494647-00494855 to try and support
VORk4oG65yc-02223-00494856-00495239 women from ethnic minorities
VORk4oG65yc-02224-00495239-00495431 to ensure that they build back their
VORk4oG65yc-02225-00495432-00495559 confidence
VORk4oG65yc-02226-00495560-00495766 after the pandemic
VORk4oG65yc-02227-00495767-00496135 and in the short and medium term
VORk4oG65yc-02228-00496135-00496366 what do you think we need to do
VORk4oG65yc-02229-00496367-00496559 to ensure that
VORk4oG65yc-02230-00496560-00496735 becomes a reality
VORk4oG65yc-02231-00496735-00496951 because it's quite obvious from what i'm
VORk4oG65yc-02232-00496952-00497191 hearing today that we are certainly
VORk4oG65yc-02233-00497192-00497327 failing
VORk4oG65yc-02234-00497328-00497751 women from that dictionary society
VORk4oG65yc-02235-00497752-00497991 there are many obstacles barriers uh
VORk4oG65yc-02236-00497992-00498175 you've talked about them already and
VORk4oG65yc-02237-00498176-00498391 we're aware of that from evidence we've
VORk4oG65yc-02238-00498392-00498783 taken uh previously but there has to be
VORk4oG65yc-02239-00498784-00498959 a way back
VORk4oG65yc-02240-00498960-00499207 for all communities but for your
VORk4oG65yc-02241-00499208-00499414 community the bim community the ethnic
VORk4oG65yc-02242-00499415-00499751 minority community who are disadvantaged
VORk4oG65yc-02243-00499752-00499883 uh who
VORk4oG65yc-02244-00499884-00500327 are not progressing to what is required
VORk4oG65yc-02245-00500328-00500583 what lessons can be learned so that we
VORk4oG65yc-02246-00500584-00500895 can actually go forward and not go back
VORk4oG65yc-02247-00500896-00501110 because what i'm hearing today in this
VORk4oG65yc-02248-00501112-00501295 evidence session looks like we're having
VORk4oG65yc-02249-00501296-00501559 a backwards step that the confidence is
VORk4oG65yc-02250-00501560-00501799 lost the individuals themselves don't
VORk4oG65yc-02251-00501800-00502022 feel they're worthy they're not able to
VORk4oG65yc-02252-00502023-00502222 progress into the management rules
VORk4oG65yc-02253-00502223-00502343 they're not able to get the
VORk4oG65yc-02254-00502343-00502591 opportunities uh and and we need to
VORk4oG65yc-02255-00502592-00502895 maybe have a sea change of attempt to
VORk4oG65yc-02256-00502896-00503079 try and make that happen
VORk4oG65yc-02257-00503080-00503222 so it would be good to maybe hear from
VORk4oG65yc-02258-00503223-00503335 joy
VORk4oG65yc-02259-00503335-00503543 because you have vast experience within
VORk4oG65yc-02260-00503543-00503759 that sector and then maybe miriam and if
VORk4oG65yc-02261-00503760-00503910 others want to come in happy to take
VORk4oG65yc-02262-00503912-00504207 that
VORk4oG65yc-02263-00504208-00504495 you thank you alexander great um
VORk4oG65yc-02264-00504496-00504855 so some of the uh funding from
VORk4oG65yc-02265-00504856-00505095 government around employability
VORk4oG65yc-02266-00505096-00505399 was and remains too prescriptive for the
VORk4oG65yc-02267-00505400-00505759 reality of these women's situations
VORk4oG65yc-02268-00505760-00506079 we had phd graduates doing low paid
VORk4oG65yc-02269-00506080-00506318 cleaning or catering services from home
VORk4oG65yc-02270-00506319-00506462 for example
VORk4oG65yc-02271-00506463-00506831 which is amazing just great initiative
VORk4oG65yc-02272-00506832-00507047 but then taking this initiative during
VORk4oG65yc-02273-00507047-00507191 difficult times
VORk4oG65yc-02274-00507192-00507366 meant that they were not eligible to
VORk4oG65yc-02275-00507367-00507591 join an employee grant an employment
VORk4oG65yc-02276-00507592-00507862 program aimed at getting women
VORk4oG65yc-02277-00507863-00508103 exactly like them back into work
VORk4oG65yc-02278-00508104-00508283 because they were deemed
VORk4oG65yc-02279-00508284-00508447 inemployment
VORk4oG65yc-02280-00508447-00508631 so even if they were working two hours a
VORk4oG65yc-02281-00508632-00508831 week they weren't allowed to join this
VORk4oG65yc-02282-00508832-00509118 program which suited exactly what they
VORk4oG65yc-02283-00509119-00509262 needed
VORk4oG65yc-02284-00509263-00509535 so this confused women who felt let down
VORk4oG65yc-02285-00509535-00509879 by us and by government and what we saw
VORk4oG65yc-02286-00509880-00509975 was
VORk4oG65yc-02287-00509976-00510247 motivated qualified women who had been
VORk4oG65yc-02288-00510247-00510399 passed over
VORk4oG65yc-02289-00510400-00510510 before
VORk4oG65yc-02290-00510512-00510766 now ineligible for government support
VORk4oG65yc-02291-00510767-00510983 programs because they'd done what they
VORk4oG65yc-02292-00510984-00511422 needed to do to survive
VORk4oG65yc-02293-00511423-00511583 so government confirms that there are
VORk4oG65yc-02294-00511584-00511759 other initiatives that they could
VORk4oG65yc-02295-00511760-00511918 benefit from
VORk4oG65yc-02296-00511919-00512151 but um we hear from the women that these
VORk4oG65yc-02297-00512152-00512414 initiatives do not help them get a job
VORk4oG65yc-02298-00512415-00512679 commensurate to their skills level which
VORk4oG65yc-02299-00512680-00512831 is what they want
VORk4oG65yc-02300-00512832-00512987 so we would like
VORk4oG65yc-02301-00512988-00513279 underemployment to be taken seriously
VORk4oG65yc-02302-00513280-00513510 and treated in a similar way to
VORk4oG65yc-02303-00513512-00513831 unemployment
VORk4oG65yc-02304-00513832-00513951 thank you
VORk4oG65yc-02305-00513952-00514055 um i
VORk4oG65yc-02306-00514056-00514222 i can go on i have a couple of other
VORk4oG65yc-02307-00514223-00514391 points
VORk4oG65yc-02308-00514392-00514783 um
VORk4oG65yc-02309-00514784-00514895 minority i think women have
VORk4oG65yc-02310-00514896-00515087 qualifications and in particular those
VORk4oG65yc-02311-00515088-00515239 returning to work
VORk4oG65yc-02312-00515239-00515495 shouldn't be forgotten in in this
VORk4oG65yc-02313-00515496-00515791 journey and they can be very quickly and
VORk4oG65yc-02314-00515792-00516047 affordably helped into work reducing
VORk4oG65yc-02315-00516047-00516214 government statistics
VORk4oG65yc-02316-00516215-00516383 they have skills
VORk4oG65yc-02317-00516384-00516566 they just need to know how to present
VORk4oG65yc-02318-00516567-00516718 them with confidence
VORk4oG65yc-02319-00516719-00516879 the focus should be less on their
VORk4oG65yc-02320-00516880-00516983 training
VORk4oG65yc-02321-00516984-00517207 and at the moment we're being told
VORk4oG65yc-02322-00517208-00517407 to concentrate on upskilling and
VORk4oG65yc-02323-00517408-00517527 training
VORk4oG65yc-02324-00517528-00517607 and
VORk4oG65yc-02325-00517608-00517799 for us the main thing is language
VORk4oG65yc-02326-00517800-00518103 training where it's needed
VORk4oG65yc-02327-00518104-00518343 but we want more on breaking down the
VORk4oG65yc-02328-00518343-00518631 barriers that employers in particular
VORk4oG65yc-02329-00518632-00518855 are being are putting up that prevent
VORk4oG65yc-02330-00518856-00519070 these women entering the workforce we're
VORk4oG65yc-02331-00519071-00519303 putting too much focus on the issues
VORk4oG65yc-02332-00519304-00519495 with the women it's not
VORk4oG65yc-02333-00519496-00519662 most of it is with the employer and the
VORk4oG65yc-02334-00519663-00519791 barriers
VORk4oG65yc-02335-00519792-00520014 so when we do a program
VORk4oG65yc-02336-00520015-00520231 um whether it's for women or for
VORk4oG65yc-02337-00520232-00520470 employees we always include both so that
VORk4oG65yc-02338-00520471-00520679 they can hear from each other and learn
VORk4oG65yc-02339-00520680-00521047 from each other um it has to be organic
VORk4oG65yc-02340-00521047-00521183 between them
VORk4oG65yc-02341-00521184-00521279 um
VORk4oG65yc-02342-00521280-00521470 so we know this from experience of
VORk4oG65yc-02343-00521471-00521647 mixing these two parties together
VORk4oG65yc-02344-00521647-00521895 frequently over the years it's it is
VORk4oG65yc-02345-00521896-00522047 actually a match made in heaven where
VORk4oG65yc-02346-00522047-00522231 they teach each other
VORk4oG65yc-02347-00522232-00522439 jobs commensurate to their skills level
VORk4oG65yc-02348-00522439-00522687 are key here and with our personal
VORk4oG65yc-02349-00522688-00522855 intervention introductions we're also
VORk4oG65yc-02350-00522856-00523070 able to place those furthest from the
VORk4oG65yc-02351-00523071-00523287 market due to language difficulties by
VORk4oG65yc-02352-00523288-00523462 highlighting to employers that these
VORk4oG65yc-02353-00523463-00523639 women have the skills
VORk4oG65yc-02354-00523639-00523879 just look at their skills
VORk4oG65yc-02355-00523880-00524031 that's all that matters don't look at
VORk4oG65yc-02356-00524032-00524303 where they got their uh degree from
VORk4oG65yc-02357-00524304-00524462 don't look at their name just look at
VORk4oG65yc-02358-00524463-00524614 the skills because we know you need
VORk4oG65yc-02359-00524615-00524743 those skills
VORk4oG65yc-02360-00524744-00524966 the more employers we talk to the more
VORk4oG65yc-02361-00524967-00525351 women we are getting into work
VORk4oG65yc-02362-00525352-00525559 another point is that um i mean women
VORk4oG65yc-02363-00525560-00525759 from non-commonwealth countries who have
VORk4oG65yc-02364-00525760-00526039 gained a stem or an allied health
VORk4oG65yc-02365-00526040-00526351 professional degree medical dental
VORk4oG65yc-02366-00526352-00526479 engineering
VORk4oG65yc-02367-00526480-00526670 they may not be familiar with the
VORk4oG65yc-02368-00526671-00526870 professional registration standards in
VORk4oG65yc-02369-00526871-00526975 the uk
VORk4oG65yc-02370-00526976-00527183 they're not aware that they can contact
VORk4oG65yc-02371-00527184-00527335 the relevant professional membership
VORk4oG65yc-02372-00527336-00527462 body
VORk4oG65yc-02373-00527463-00527622 or the organization
VORk4oG65yc-02374-00527623-00527839 to get guidance on how to practice their
VORk4oG65yc-02375-00527840-00528070 profession successfully in the uk
VORk4oG65yc-02376-00528071-00528222 and they may also be confused about the
VORk4oG65yc-02377-00528223-00528391 difference between a trade union and
VORk4oG65yc-02378-00528392-00528711 professional standards organizations
VORk4oG65yc-02379-00528712-00528927 so due to the shortage of certain skills
VORk4oG65yc-02380-00528928-00529111 in the uk government really needs to
VORk4oG65yc-02381-00529112-00529351 work with professional membership bodies
VORk4oG65yc-02382-00529352-00529639 on establishing a clear pathway on how
VORk4oG65yc-02383-00529640-00529935 to assist professional me women
VORk4oG65yc-02384-00529936-00530111 trained overseas to practice their
VORk4oG65yc-02385-00530112-00530343 profession legally in the uk
VORk4oG65yc-02386-00530344-00530566 the cost of taking exams to practice
VORk4oG65yc-02387-00530567-00530759 certain professions is also quite high
VORk4oG65yc-02388-00530760-00531039 which can be a deterrent
VORk4oG65yc-02389-00531040-00531287 but such highly trained women would also
VORk4oG65yc-02390-00531288-00531591 benefit from funding and mentoring from
VORk4oG65yc-02391-00531592-00531799 respect to professional bodies
VORk4oG65yc-02392-00531800-00532031 and in fact one of my we have dentists
VORk4oG65yc-02393-00532032-00532247 in our present program we have teachers
VORk4oG65yc-02394-00532248-00532487 we have doctors
VORk4oG65yc-02395-00532488-00532687 um and we're struggling to help them
VORk4oG65yc-02396-00532688-00532911 re-qualify so one of my team took the
VORk4oG65yc-02397-00532912-00533214 initiative to talk to a senior indian
VORk4oG65yc-02398-00533215-00533414 female dentist in her practice in
VORk4oG65yc-02399-00533415-00533527 scotland
VORk4oG65yc-02400-00533528-00533775 about the two dentists on the program
VORk4oG65yc-02401-00533776-00533855 um
VORk4oG65yc-02402-00533856-00534031 and the
VORk4oG65yc-02403-00534032-00534327 indian female dentist said that they are
VORk4oG65yc-02404-00534328-00534535 crying out for dentists
VORk4oG65yc-02405-00534536-00534743 and and she was aware that the
VORk4oG65yc-02406-00534744-00534847 government
VORk4oG65yc-02407-00534848-00535014 site the website was difficult to
VORk4oG65yc-02408-00535015-00535222 navigate and this dentist said that what
VORk4oG65yc-02409-00535223-00535462 we ai was doing was a great initiative
VORk4oG65yc-02410-00535463-00535655 and she was insistent that the dentist
VORk4oG65yc-02411-00535656-00535862 profession needed these women
VORk4oG65yc-02412-00535863-00535983 to help them get through this
VORk4oG65yc-02413-00535984-00536175 complicated process of
VORk4oG65yc-02414-00536176-00536366 uh re-qualifying or the women needed
VORk4oG65yc-02415-00536367-00536543 them that they needed to meet these
VORk4oG65yc-02416-00536544-00536791 women i beg your pardon um in order to
VORk4oG65yc-02417-00536792-00536943 help them get through this process and
VORk4oG65yc-02418-00536944-00537079 she offered to go straight to the
VORk4oG65yc-02419-00537080-00537287 general dentist council and get it
VORk4oG65yc-02420-00537288-00537495 sorted and speak to our cohort
VORk4oG65yc-02421-00537496-00537718 personally so that they get the best
VORk4oG65yc-02422-00537719-00537935 access to information and mentorship she
VORk4oG65yc-02423-00537936-00538079 felt it was the best way to get them
VORk4oG65yc-02424-00538080-00538279 into meaningful employment that equals
VORk4oG65yc-02425-00538280-00538503 their qualifications and skill sets so
VORk4oG65yc-02426-00538504-00538679 clear access to support for these
VORk4oG65yc-02427-00538680-00538911 professions will ensure highly qualified
VORk4oG65yc-02428-00538912-00539183 talent doesn't resort to precarious work
VORk4oG65yc-02429-00539184-00539559 to bring in money for the family
VORk4oG65yc-02430-00539560-00539735 thank you very much indeed that that was
VORk4oG65yc-02431-00539736-00539991 a very good answer and in depth and if i
VORk4oG65yc-02432-00539992-00540143 can let me now go to miriam for her
VORk4oG65yc-02433-00540144-00540431 response to it as well
VORk4oG65yc-02434-00540432-00540718 thank you um alexander and just to
VORk4oG65yc-02435-00540719-00540911 answer your question i think what we do
VORk4oG65yc-02436-00540912-00541062 need to do is invest in more
VORk4oG65yc-02437-00541063-00541375 employability programs um um i would say
VORk4oG65yc-02438-00541376-00541535 that in amino we do have an
VORk4oG65yc-02439-00541536-00541735 employability program and it looks at
VORk4oG65yc-02440-00541736-00542039 helping women do cvs eso classes
VORk4oG65yc-02441-00542040-00542311 employability skills what is needed
VORk4oG65yc-02442-00542312-00542559 volunteering opportunities but again you
VORk4oG65yc-02443-00542560-00542695 know we're always struggling when it
VORk4oG65yc-02444-00542696-00542870 comes to funding and actually constantly
VORk4oG65yc-02445-00542871-00543135 with the demand that also comes in and
VORk4oG65yc-02446-00543136-00543343 with that targeted recruitment for
VORk4oG65yc-02447-00543344-00543503 employers i would really welcome that
VORk4oG65yc-02448-00543504-00543655 just like police scotland have done
VORk4oG65yc-02449-00543656-00543822 there was also targeted recruitment for
VORk4oG65yc-02450-00543823-00544022 like teachers assistants they looked at
VORk4oG65yc-02451-00544023-00544255 bme communities and religious
VORk4oG65yc-02452-00544256-00544391 communities they went to them and said
VORk4oG65yc-02453-00544392-00544614 look we're looking for bme more bme
VORk4oG65yc-02454-00544615-00544807 women to become teachers assistants and
VORk4oG65yc-02455-00544808-00544983 that targeted recruitment has really
VORk4oG65yc-02456-00544984-00545191 really helped last year in getting more
VORk4oG65yc-02457-00545192-00545447 bme women to maybe apply and actually
VORk4oG65yc-02458-00545448-00545679 consider that as a profession but also i
VORk4oG65yc-02459-00545680-00545839 think there needs to be accountability
VORk4oG65yc-02460-00545840-00546070 when it comes to highly qualified and
VORk4oG65yc-02461-00546071-00546343 highly skilled jobs also um i think
VORk4oG65yc-02462-00546344-00546495 organizations need to have that
VORk4oG65yc-02463-00546496-00546862 accountability about um do you have any
VORk4oG65yc-02464-00546863-00547087 senior management that are bme do you
VORk4oG65yc-02465-00547088-00547255 have any senior management that are on
VORk4oG65yc-02466-00547256-00547487 board again if we were to really do that
VORk4oG65yc-02467-00547488-00547743 analysis of scotland the amount of bme
VORk4oG65yc-02468-00547744-00547983 women's rights organizations themselves
VORk4oG65yc-02469-00547984-00548295 that just do not have any brown or black
VORk4oG65yc-02470-00548296-00548543 women on boards or within their senior
VORk4oG65yc-02471-00548544-00548783 management team it's an absolute issue
VORk4oG65yc-02472-00548784-00548991 especially when they're running bme
VORk4oG65yc-02473-00548992-00549199 specific projects so i think there needs
VORk4oG65yc-02474-00549200-00549470 to be an accountability accountability
VORk4oG65yc-02475-00549471-00549711 with organizations but also targeted
VORk4oG65yc-02476-00549712-00549911 recruitment and in more investment
VORk4oG65yc-02477-00549912-00550135 within specialist being organizations to
VORk4oG65yc-02478-00550136-00550327 actually deliver employability
VORk4oG65yc-02479-00550328-00550527 programmes
VORk4oG65yc-02480-00550528-00550622 thank you
VORk4oG65yc-02481-00550623-00550862 thank you very much indeed uh i think
VORk4oG65yc-02482-00550863-00550991 maybe
VORk4oG65yc-02483-00550992-00551247 bishop i wanted to come in
VORk4oG65yc-02484-00551248-00551470 thank you alexandra um yeah just to add
VORk4oG65yc-02485-00551471-00551607 to what everybody else has seen we've
VORk4oG65yc-02486-00551608-00551839 been running employability programs
VORk4oG65yc-02487-00551840-00552039 more than 25 years we've worked in
VORk4oG65yc-02488-00552040-00552231 partnership with the local job centres
VORk4oG65yc-02489-00552232-00552447 and we know that that one-to-one support
VORk4oG65yc-02490-00552448-00552662 that women need help them to actually
VORk4oG65yc-02491-00552663-00552927 access fill-in forms have the confidence
VORk4oG65yc-02492-00552928-00553183 go for an interview are really important
VORk4oG65yc-02493-00553184-00553366 so just to send them or refer them onto
VORk4oG65yc-02494-00553367-00553583 the job centers and say that you can get
VORk4oG65yc-02495-00553584-00553751 you know go there you can have to go in
VORk4oG65yc-02496-00553752-00554055 there that just doesn't work and we have
VORk4oG65yc-02497-00554056-00554255 the evidence to prove all of that and we
VORk4oG65yc-02498-00554256-00554479 have had funding in the past to do that
VORk4oG65yc-02499-00554480-00554662 kind of work and bridge that gap between
VORk4oG65yc-02500-00554663-00554975 the job centers and the women and to be
VORk4oG65yc-02501-00554976-00555166 able to get them to that stage where
VORk4oG65yc-02502-00555167-00555470 they're able to apply for jobs and so
VORk4oG65yc-02503-00555471-00555655 there does need to be more funding to
VORk4oG65yc-02504-00555656-00555799 enter these things and again it's the
VORk4oG65yc-02505-00555800-00556127 same as but before until that gap is
VORk4oG65yc-02506-00556128-00556335 closed by mainstream which doesn't look
VORk4oG65yc-02507-00556336-00556527 like it's going to happen in the near
VORk4oG65yc-02508-00556528-00556711 future then people need to start
VORk4oG65yc-02509-00556712-00556927 acknowledging that these services that
VORk4oG65yc-02510-00556928-00557166 we are providing on the ground for women
VORk4oG65yc-02511-00557167-00557447 from these bme communities are vital
VORk4oG65yc-02512-00557448-00557622 and without them you will never have a
VORk4oG65yc-02513-00557623-00557855 diverse workforce you can look at both
VORk4oG65yc-02514-00557856-00558014 scales of it you can look at it from
VORk4oG65yc-02515-00558015-00558183 joy's end and then you can look at it
VORk4oG65yc-02516-00558184-00558399 from our end
VORk4oG65yc-02517-00558400-00558711 and there's a huge gap there
VORk4oG65yc-02518-00558712-00558911 so i think somewhere along the line this
VORk4oG65yc-02519-00558912-00559199 needs to be acknowledged taken on board
VORk4oG65yc-02520-00559200-00559462 by the powers that we
VORk4oG65yc-02521-00559463-00559583 thank you for that
VORk4oG65yc-02522-00559584-00559718 and i think father you want to come in
VORk4oG65yc-02523-00559719-00559943 as well that will be the ending here for
VORk4oG65yc-02524-00559944-00560247 me
VORk4oG65yc-02525-00560248-00560462 thank you very much and so i've been
VORk4oG65yc-02526-00560463-00560631 taking notes i'm not going to reiterate
VORk4oG65yc-02527-00560632-00560847 what um our colleagues have been saying
VORk4oG65yc-02528-00560848-00560991 so regarding training women and
VORk4oG65yc-02529-00560992-00561159 employment but through the work that we
VORk4oG65yc-02530-00561160-00561318 do through the race for human rights
VORk4oG65yc-02531-00561319-00561583 programme um at symbol scotland this is
VORk4oG65yc-02532-00561584-00561775 exactly what it is that we work with
VORk4oG65yc-02533-00561776-00562039 clients it is about looking at how are
VORk4oG65yc-02534-00562040-00562262 we going to get more ethnic minorities
VORk4oG65yc-02535-00562263-00562479 into employment and obviously the the
VORk4oG65yc-02536-00562480-00562687 specific scope in here is about getting
VORk4oG65yc-02537-00562688-00562991 ethnic minor two women into employment
VORk4oG65yc-02538-00562992-00563239 um as well as you know taking cost of
VORk4oG65yc-02539-00563240-00563422 action measures and employability
VORk4oG65yc-02540-00563423-00563662 programs i think what we can take
VORk4oG65yc-02541-00563663-00563895 forward from this pandemic is the number
VORk4oG65yc-02542-00563896-00564166 of transferable skills that minority
VORk4oG65yc-02543-00564167-00564495 women have gained for example becoming
VORk4oG65yc-02544-00564496-00564751 negotiators with the even if it's about
VORk4oG65yc-02545-00564752-00564943 you know managing between family members
VORk4oG65yc-02546-00564944-00565175 or children fighting at home or you know
VORk4oG65yc-02547-00565176-00565422 becoming home educators the things the
VORk4oG65yc-02548-00565423-00565575 amount of skills that we have had to
VORk4oG65yc-02549-00565576-00565683 learn
VORk4oG65yc-02550-00565684-00565959 um at home um
VORk4oG65yc-02551-00565960-00566159 should really be seen to be encouraged
VORk4oG65yc-02552-00566160-00566366 as transferable skills
VORk4oG65yc-02553-00566367-00566535 what also i really want to kind of hone
VORk4oG65yc-02554-00566536-00566735 down on and i'll make this quick quite a
VORk4oG65yc-02555-00566736-00567118 quick is the fact that any any clients
VORk4oG65yc-02556-00567119-00567262 that we support the first thing is that
VORk4oG65yc-02557-00567263-00567462 we ask what is your data what does your
VORk4oG65yc-02558-00567463-00567614 data look like
VORk4oG65yc-02559-00567615-00567870 um and that in itself is
VORk4oG65yc-02560-00567871-00568175 um an issue in itself that we still
VORk4oG65yc-02561-00568176-00568399 have inadequate measures of collecting
VORk4oG65yc-02562-00568400-00568607 data on ethnic minority women within
VORk4oG65yc-02563-00568608-00568759 scotland
VORk4oG65yc-02564-00568760-00568943 and um
VORk4oG65yc-02565-00568944-00569127 that is something that desperately needs
VORk4oG65yc-02566-00569128-00569383 to be looked at in when we look at doing
VORk4oG65yc-02567-00569384-00569566 for example deep dive sessions we see
VORk4oG65yc-02568-00569567-00569679 you know
VORk4oG65yc-02569-00569680-00569775 what
VORk4oG65yc-02570-00569776-00569991 what are the actual barriers that are
VORk4oG65yc-02571-00569992-00570239 preventing women ethnic minority women
VORk4oG65yc-02572-00570240-00570422 from applying for certain jobs is it
VORk4oG65yc-02573-00570423-00570622 because of a certain skill set is it
VORk4oG65yc-02574-00570623-00570895 because of racial discrimination um most
VORk4oG65yc-02575-00570896-00571007 likely is because the racial
VORk4oG65yc-02576-00571008-00571207 discrimination and these are things that
VORk4oG65yc-02577-00571208-00571462 we do work on and on on the back of that
VORk4oG65yc-02578-00571463-00571631 obviously this committee and you know
VORk4oG65yc-02579-00571632-00571943 we're sitting with msps you uh
VORk4oG65yc-02580-00571944-00572135 we you know following
VORk4oG65yc-02581-00572136-00572343 holding public services and public
VORk4oG65yc-02582-00572344-00572566 leaders into account
VORk4oG65yc-02583-00572567-00572670 and following through in the public
VORk4oG65yc-02584-00572671-00573055 sector quality duty as just as important
VORk4oG65yc-02585-00573056-00573151 and
VORk4oG65yc-02586-00573152-00573335 so look to yourselves as again
VORk4oG65yc-02587-00573336-00573591 policymakers and ensuring that when it
VORk4oG65yc-02588-00573592-00573783 comes to collecting data and fulfilling
VORk4oG65yc-02589-00573784-00574039 public sector equality duties that this
VORk4oG65yc-02590-00574040-00574207 is on the front line because without the
VORk4oG65yc-02591-00574208-00574414 data without the evidence it is really
VORk4oG65yc-02592-00574415-00574687 hard to then advocate that what is
VORk4oG65yc-02593-00574688-00574870 actually needed we know what's needed
VORk4oG65yc-02594-00574871-00575062 because we've lived it but when you're
VORk4oG65yc-02595-00575063-00575231 translating this into policy and
VORk4oG65yc-02596-00575232-00575447 positive action measures that evidence
VORk4oG65yc-02597-00575448-00575735 is required and the fact that there is
VORk4oG65yc-02598-00575736-00575966 feel that disparity of trust between
VORk4oG65yc-02599-00575967-00576214 leadership and frontline and and such
VORk4oG65yc-02600-00576215-00576391 things like disclosure rates it is
VORk4oG65yc-02601-00576392-00576670 really hard to
VORk4oG65yc-02602-00576671-00577110 find out exactly what what are the needs
VORk4oG65yc-02603-00577111-00577414 what are the gaps that need to be filled
VORk4oG65yc-02604-00577415-00577662 so that is something um i hope that the
VORk4oG65yc-02605-00577663-00577918 committee would take back in in terms of
VORk4oG65yc-02606-00577919-00578062 looking into
VORk4oG65yc-02607-00578063-00578335 as well um and obviously assemble
VORk4oG65yc-02608-00578336-00578639 scotland do a support ethnic minority
VORk4oG65yc-02609-00578640-00578775 women and
VORk4oG65yc-02610-00578776-00578991 men as well into employment throughout
VORk4oG65yc-02611-00578992-00579407 our different programs and projects
VORk4oG65yc-02612-00579408-00580495 thank you very much
VORk4oG65yc-02613-00580496-00580679 i'm fine now convener yeah i asked the
VORk4oG65yc-02614-00580680-00580903 question it was basically um i mixed my
VORk4oG65yc-02615-00580904-00581095 question into both one question in
VORk4oG65yc-02616-00581096-00581270 relation to one size fitting all three
VORk4oG65yc-02617-00581271-00581391 thank you
VORk4oG65yc-02618-00581392-00581543 pam duncan glancing do you want to come
VORk4oG65yc-02619-00581544-00581759 in now
VORk4oG65yc-02620-00581760-00581927 and please started that would be helpful
VORk4oG65yc-02621-00581928-00582239 thank you thank you and for that i know
VORk4oG65yc-02622-00582240-00582510 earlier on that and there was a comment
VORk4oG65yc-02623-00582511-00582887 made about the unpaid work of people
VORk4oG65yc-02624-00582888-00583103 and that particularly struck me actually
VORk4oG65yc-02625-00583104-00583383 um because i can i can see how
VORk4oG65yc-02626-00583384-00583518 you will have had to put in and
VORk4oG65yc-02627-00583519-00583791 considerably more more hours of support
VORk4oG65yc-02628-00583792-00584062 i wonder and if you could um tell us
VORk4oG65yc-02629-00584063-00584222 what you think part of this what you
VORk4oG65yc-02630-00584223-00584431 think the solution to that is and if you
VORk4oG65yc-02631-00584432-00584607 think that the organizations you're
VORk4oG65yc-02632-00584608-00584727 working with and people you're working
VORk4oG65yc-02633-00584728-00584918 with are getting enough support and
VORk4oG65yc-02634-00584919-00585143 financially to recruit the number of
VORk4oG65yc-02635-00585144-00585279 staff that you need to address some of
VORk4oG65yc-02636-00585280-00585999 the problems you've raised today
VORk4oG65yc-02637-00586000-00586383 you want to direct that somebody
VORk4oG65yc-02638-00586384-00586503 and i
VORk4oG65yc-02639-00586504-00586679 i i didn't write down the name of the
VORk4oG65yc-02640-00586680-00586847 person who made the comment it was it
VORk4oG65yc-02641-00586848-00587087 was really early on but if someone who
VORk4oG65yc-02642-00587088-00587231 if the person who said that could
VORk4oG65yc-02643-00587232-00587583 remember and that they'd said it maybe
VORk4oG65yc-02644-00587584-00587718 they could come back
VORk4oG65yc-02645-00587719-00588031 and otherwise i get i guess um maybe
VORk4oG65yc-02646-00588032-00588831 then mariam
VORk4oG65yc-02647-00588832-00589039 yeah thank you pam um
VORk4oG65yc-02648-00589040-00589327 uh so i would say yeah when it comes to
VORk4oG65yc-02649-00589328-00589670 staff i think this is probably
VORk4oG65yc-02650-00589671-00589903 all third sector organizations do we
VORk4oG65yc-02651-00589904-00590062 ever feel like we've ever got enough
VORk4oG65yc-02652-00590063-00590214 funding we're always fighting for
VORk4oG65yc-02653-00590215-00590447 funding and we've got a cocktail of
VORk4oG65yc-02654-00590448-00590631 funding which is always a dangerous
VORk4oG65yc-02655-00590632-00590831 situation to be in but it needs to be
VORk4oG65yc-02656-00590832-00591110 done and what i would say is is that
VORk4oG65yc-02657-00591111-00591318 certainly in my time in amina what i
VORk4oG65yc-02658-00591319-00591527 have tried to do is be more realistic
VORk4oG65yc-02659-00591528-00591766 with our targets and and really go back
VORk4oG65yc-02660-00591767-00591991 to funders and say look you know we know
VORk4oG65yc-02661-00591992-00592207 that you're wanting us to support for
VORk4oG65yc-02662-00592208-00592479 example 12 women and that might not look
VORk4oG65yc-02663-00592480-00592695 like a lot but actually look at the
VORk4oG65yc-02664-00592696-00592935 amount of time and resources this is
VORk4oG65yc-02665-00592936-00593151 going to take there has definitely also
VORk4oG65yc-02666-00593152-00593399 been a burnout of staff i think this has
VORk4oG65yc-02667-00593400-00593591 been all organizations that have said
VORk4oG65yc-02668-00593592-00593807 this but really it's been about for me
VORk4oG65yc-02669-00593808-00594055 speaking to my staff and supporting them
VORk4oG65yc-02670-00594056-00594183 through this you know whether it's been
VORk4oG65yc-02671-00594184-00594422 through external counseling
VORk4oG65yc-02672-00594423-00594679 extra team meetings um but i mean i
VORk4oG65yc-02673-00594680-00594822 would say that my background's always
VORk4oG65yc-02674-00594823-00594975 been an advocacy it's always been in
VORk4oG65yc-02675-00594976-00595143 women's rights so really i kind of get
VORk4oG65yc-02676-00595144-00595310 it you know so i think being that
VORk4oG65yc-02677-00595311-00595510 listening near for your own staff but
VORk4oG65yc-02678-00595511-00595727 also just understanding how difficult it
VORk4oG65yc-02679-00595728-00595927 is but really
VORk4oG65yc-02680-00595928-00596310 to to summarize this funding i mean i
VORk4oG65yc-02681-00596311-00596483 keep going back to this bme
VORk4oG65yc-02682-00596484-00596662 organizations and especially when we're
VORk4oG65yc-02683-00596663-00596918 looking at inequalities we need that
VORk4oG65yc-02684-00596919-00597175 extra investment but when we're applying
VORk4oG65yc-02685-00597176-00597335 for violence against women funds or
VORk4oG65yc-02686-00597336-00597510 equality and human rights funds we're
VORk4oG65yc-02687-00597511-00597687 paying for the exact same money and
VORk4oG65yc-02688-00597688-00597887 really that intersectionality
VORk4oG65yc-02689-00597888-00598095 it's not taking into account that
VORk4oG65yc-02690-00598096-00598310 actually maybe we do need the same
VORk4oG65yc-02691-00598311-00598414 amount of work that we're going to
VORk4oG65yc-02692-00598415-00598607 deliver but rather than have one worker
VORk4oG65yc-02693-00598608-00598807 we need two workers unfortunately i
VORk4oG65yc-02694-00598808-00598983 would say it's still not built into our
VORk4oG65yc-02695-00598984-00599199 funding streams to reflect that but i'm
VORk4oG65yc-02696-00599200-00599422 sure that would be same with all the
VORk4oG65yc-02697-00599423-00599855 colleagues on this call
VORk4oG65yc-02698-00599856-00600287 thank you
VORk4oG65yc-02699-00600288-00600439 thank you
VORk4oG65yc-02700-00600440-00600575 i think trishna was wanting to come in
VORk4oG65yc-02701-00600576-00600839 pam
VORk4oG65yc-02702-00600840-00601079 to add to that um the thing is that all
VORk4oG65yc-02703-00601080-00601287 of that about round funding is so vital
VORk4oG65yc-02704-00601288-00601495 for our organizations that we had
VORk4oG65yc-02705-00601496-00601710 applied the human equality and human
VORk4oG65yc-02706-00601711-00601943 rights fund and we didn't get anything
VORk4oG65yc-02707-00601944-00602127 and yet we were the only sikh family
VORk4oG65yc-02708-00602128-00602327 support charity in the whole of scotland
VORk4oG65yc-02709-00602328-00602543 supporting women from the sikh community
VORk4oG65yc-02710-00602544-00602735 and because of the loss of that funding
VORk4oG65yc-02711-00602736-00602951 we lost our outreach worker who was
VORk4oG65yc-02712-00602952-00603270 reaching out to over 100 people a week
VORk4oG65yc-02713-00603271-00603407 and we we
VORk4oG65yc-02714-00603408-00603566 are now having to wait until the next
VORk4oG65yc-02715-00603567-00603759 round of funding before we can actually
VORk4oG65yc-02716-00603760-00603918 employ somebody now that doesn't mean to
VORk4oG65yc-02717-00603919-00604118 say that the referrals have stopped the
VORk4oG65yc-02718-00604119-00604310 referrals are still coming in and i'm
VORk4oG65yc-02719-00604311-00604495 having to pick them up
VORk4oG65yc-02720-00604496-00604759 so there's a real misunderstanding
VORk4oG65yc-02721-00604760-00604983 mismatch somewhere when we apply for
VORk4oG65yc-02722-00604984-00605310 funding but for a real fundamental
VORk4oG65yc-02723-00605311-00605551 aspect of the work that we are doing
VORk4oG65yc-02724-00605552-00605718 and we don't get anything and then we're
VORk4oG65yc-02725-00605719-00605831 having to look
VORk4oG65yc-02726-00605832-00606095 elsewhere for that funding
VORk4oG65yc-02727-00606096-00606343 it's you know that it just defies the
VORk4oG65yc-02728-00606344-00606551 imagination because you think then well
VORk4oG65yc-02729-00606552-00606710 why are we always having to fight for
VORk4oG65yc-02730-00606711-00606999 funding so does nobody appreciate the
VORk4oG65yc-02731-00607000-00607207 work that we do is it not acknowledged
VORk4oG65yc-02732-00607208-00607527 at some level and is it then really just
VORk4oG65yc-02733-00607528-00607727 an add-on that they're there they'll do
VORk4oG65yc-02734-00607728-00607870 it
VORk4oG65yc-02735-00607871-00608103 other you know mainstream organizations
VORk4oG65yc-02736-00608104-00608391 are funded by statutory services why is
VORk4oG65yc-02737-00608392-00608518 there no
VORk4oG65yc-02738-00608519-00608783 single bme organization that is under
VORk4oG65yc-02739-00608784-00609014 the statutory umbrella whether it be
VORk4oG65yc-02740-00609015-00609214 social work health and social care or
VORk4oG65yc-02741-00609215-00609407 anything like that whether it's children
VORk4oG65yc-02742-00609408-00609703 services
VORk4oG65yc-02743-00609704-00609951 so it's a question rather than i know
VORk4oG65yc-02744-00609952-00610079 we're looking for
VORk4oG65yc-02745-00610080-00610303 solutions but the solutions are there we
VORk4oG65yc-02746-00610304-00610510 are delivering the solutions
VORk4oG65yc-02747-00610511-00610679 but we're not that they're not being
VORk4oG65yc-02748-00610680-00610839 acknowledged in the right way because if
VORk4oG65yc-02749-00610840-00610999 they were then we wouldn't be looking
VORk4oG65yc-02750-00611000-00611239 for funding to keep us going
VORk4oG65yc-02751-00611240-00611366 so we have the solutions we're
VORk4oG65yc-02752-00611367-00611503 delivering them
VORk4oG65yc-02753-00611504-00611935 all of the organizations are doing that
VORk4oG65yc-02754-00611936-00612518 thanks
VORk4oG65yc-02755-00612519-00613007 i think farah would like to come in
VORk4oG65yc-02756-00613008-00613262 thank you very much um so in terms of
VORk4oG65yc-02757-00613263-00613543 solutions um to towards like you know
VORk4oG65yc-02758-00613544-00613855 supporting the recovery um and looking
VORk4oG65yc-02759-00613856-00614143 forward i mean we can we if only money
VORk4oG65yc-02760-00614144-00614343 was the the solution to all of our
VORk4oG65yc-02761-00614344-00614599 problems that would be an easy fix
VORk4oG65yc-02762-00614600-00614710 fintech
VORk4oG65yc-02763-00614711-00615039 um but also looking at what the the
VORk4oG65yc-02764-00615040-00615222 circumstances that we're in obviously
VORk4oG65yc-02765-00615223-00615391 with with finances with the budget with
VORk4oG65yc-02766-00615392-00615510 the economy
VORk4oG65yc-02767-00615511-00615703 um as well i think
VORk4oG65yc-02768-00615704-00615895 what what corporate and lockdown has
VORk4oG65yc-02769-00615896-00616103 definitely taught us is that it's time
VORk4oG65yc-02770-00616104-00616351 to work smarter not harder
VORk4oG65yc-02771-00616352-00616591 and that when we look and
VORk4oG65yc-02772-00616592-00616735 the scottish government have
VORk4oG65yc-02773-00616736-00616959 acknowledged the fact that there is
VORk4oG65yc-02774-00616960-00617295 institutionalized racism within scotland
VORk4oG65yc-02775-00617296-00617462 i think if you're to bring in people
VORk4oG65yc-02776-00617463-00617670 with those lived experiences
VORk4oG65yc-02777-00617671-00617766 and
VORk4oG65yc-02778-00617767-00617951 with those perfect with including the
VORk4oG65yc-02779-00617952-00618199 professional experience into those more
VORk4oG65yc-02780-00618200-00618391 leadership positions
VORk4oG65yc-02781-00618392-00618614 and have that diversity within that
VORk4oG65yc-02782-00618615-00618883 workforce is where that trickles
VORk4oG65yc-02783-00618884-00619166 down in terms of you know because we
VORk4oG65yc-02784-00619167-00619399 know ethnic minorities and when it comes
VORk4oG65yc-02785-00619400-00619575 to employing the employment market there
VORk4oG65yc-02786-00619576-00619743 is a higher gap between
VORk4oG65yc-02787-00619744-00620007 white and non-white um
VORk4oG65yc-02788-00620008-00620222 applicants so
VORk4oG65yc-02789-00620223-00620462 there is a lot of ground work that does
VORk4oG65yc-02790-00620463-00620614 need to be done in in terms of
VORk4oG65yc-02791-00620615-00620814 supporting that recovery and even when
VORk4oG65yc-02792-00620815-00621103 it comes to training um and upskilling
VORk4oG65yc-02793-00621104-00621222 and
VORk4oG65yc-02794-00621223-00621614 it is needing to be flexible and i think
VORk4oG65yc-02795-00621615-00621799 the best thing that we learned again out
VORk4oG65yc-02796-00621800-00621879 of
VORk4oG65yc-02797-00621880-00622022 um
VORk4oG65yc-02798-00622023-00622239 the positives to take away from being
VORk4oG65yc-02799-00622240-00622447 unlocked and was the flexibility of
VORk4oG65yc-02800-00622448-00622679 working from home because that meant you
VORk4oG65yc-02801-00622680-00622983 know with child care and
VORk4oG65yc-02802-00622984-00623199 you could work from home and also that
VORk4oG65yc-02803-00623200-00623295 you know
VORk4oG65yc-02804-00623296-00623527 not have to worry as much about you know
VORk4oG65yc-02805-00623528-00623687 who's going to look after his children
VORk4oG65yc-02806-00623688-00623935 and you know that was a less of a
VORk4oG65yc-02807-00623936-00624166 financial responsibility although it
VORk4oG65yc-02808-00624167-00624407 does take its emotional toll the number
VORk4oG65yc-02809-00624408-00624591 of times i feel like banging my head off
VORk4oG65yc-02810-00624592-00624710 the wall when i've got my children in
VORk4oG65yc-02811-00624711-00624910 the background and they come and tell me
VORk4oG65yc-02812-00624911-00625118 think that i'm in
VORk4oG65yc-02813-00625119-00625407 um so but however if it wasn't for the
VORk4oG65yc-02814-00625408-00625687 flexibility of being able to work in my
VORk4oG65yc-02815-00625688-00625895 role i probably would not be in
VORk4oG65yc-02816-00625896-00626118 employment at the moment and prior to me
VORk4oG65yc-02817-00626119-00626366 working with single scotland and i
VORk4oG65yc-02818-00626367-00626631 worked part-time and it was just an as
VORk4oG65yc-02819-00626632-00626839 and when but i think that is something
VORk4oG65yc-02820-00626840-00627007 to kind of take positivity that we need
VORk4oG65yc-02821-00627008-00627279 to kind of go forward and allowing
VORk4oG65yc-02822-00627280-00627462 not allowing sorry but promoting that
VORk4oG65yc-02823-00627463-00627727 hybrid working um and those options and
VORk4oG65yc-02824-00627728-00627983 possibilities that are there now that we
VORk4oG65yc-02825-00627984-00628135 see you know through a digital connected
VORk4oG65yc-02826-00628136-00628262 economy
VORk4oG65yc-02827-00628263-00628414 um
VORk4oG65yc-02828-00628415-00628783 and also i think another a positive from
VORk4oG65yc-02829-00628784-00629022 being in lockdown as the awareness of
VORk4oG65yc-02830-00629023-00629159 mental health
VORk4oG65yc-02831-00629160-00629399 and again prior to lockdown it was so
VORk4oG65yc-02832-00629400-00629583 hard to kind of explain
VORk4oG65yc-02833-00629584-00629910 why i had to leave my job because of
VORk4oG65yc-02834-00629911-00630095 mental health issues because i suffered
VORk4oG65yc-02835-00630096-00630407 extreme paranoia and anxiety um i
VORk4oG65yc-02836-00630408-00630639 couldn't leave the house for example so
VORk4oG65yc-02837-00630640-00630799 coming in a lot then was actually a
VORk4oG65yc-02838-00630800-00630959 blessing in disguise because that
VORk4oG65yc-02839-00630960-00631191 pressure was no longer there to to leave
VORk4oG65yc-02840-00631192-00631422 the home but also it meant that other
VORk4oG65yc-02841-00631423-00631695 people were more willing to
VORk4oG65yc-02842-00631696-00631870 understand what i was going through
VORk4oG65yc-02843-00631871-00632070 therefore able to accommodate and make
VORk4oG65yc-02844-00632071-00632247 those a
VORk4oG65yc-02845-00632248-00632479 and be able to facilitate that and i
VORk4oG65yc-02846-00632480-00632695 think going forward these things need to
VORk4oG65yc-02847-00632696-00632862 remain as
VORk4oG65yc-02848-00632863-00633103 um and being able to remember mental
VORk4oG65yc-02849-00633104-00633359 health comes first basic you know
VORk4oG65yc-02850-00633360-00633655 humanization of of people and
VORk4oG65yc-02851-00633656-00633887 um in the chat bar as well i've seen
VORk4oG65yc-02852-00633888-00634062 again the racial
VORk4oG65yc-02853-00634063-00634239 discrimination of
VORk4oG65yc-02854-00634240-00634351 in
VORk4oG65yc-02855-00634352-00634479 ethnic minorities not just in the
VORk4oG65yc-02856-00634480-00634655 workplace but within society is
VORk4oG65yc-02857-00634656-00634807 something that
VORk4oG65yc-02858-00634808-00635039 is within the arena of
VORk4oG65yc-02859-00635040-00635183 everyone here
VORk4oG65yc-02860-00635184-00635303 to
VORk4oG65yc-02861-00635304-00635510 to actually act upon
VORk4oG65yc-02862-00635511-00635999 in thank you
VORk4oG65yc-02863-00636000-00636327 right thanks father i i see joy as is um
VORk4oG65yc-02864-00636328-00636935 wants to respond as well
VORk4oG65yc-02865-00636936-00637079 thank you
VORk4oG65yc-02866-00637080-00637366 um so um
VORk4oG65yc-02867-00637367-00637559 no quick fixes here
VORk4oG65yc-02868-00637560-00637870 um but certainly um
VORk4oG65yc-02869-00637871-00638062 some hopefully some
VORk4oG65yc-02870-00638063-00638262 easy solutions
VORk4oG65yc-02871-00638263-00638462 you know i would love to see a workplace
VORk4oG65yc-02872-00638463-00638695 that is accepting if not embracing of
VORk4oG65yc-02873-00638696-00638862 diversity
VORk4oG65yc-02874-00638863-00639070 these are long-term goals that need to
VORk4oG65yc-02875-00639071-00639214 be striven for
VORk4oG65yc-02876-00639215-00639335 um
VORk4oG65yc-02877-00639336-00639462 child care
VORk4oG65yc-02878-00639463-00639710 we have not been mentioned much today
VORk4oG65yc-02879-00639711-00639895 but women wanting to work they're going
VORk4oG65yc-02880-00639896-00640055 to need that
VORk4oG65yc-02881-00640056-00640247 a more holistic approach to training and
VORk4oG65yc-02882-00640248-00640439 employment guidance
VORk4oG65yc-02883-00640440-00640662 definitely taking into consideration the
VORk4oG65yc-02884-00640663-00640895 importance of this
VORk4oG65yc-02885-00640896-00641014 need
VORk4oG65yc-02886-00641015-00641283 a point for improved
VORk4oG65yc-02887-00641284-00641647 resilience finally flexibility
VORk4oG65yc-02888-00641648-00641855 we've touched on it before but it is
VORk4oG65yc-02889-00641856-00642095 misunderstood by employers and without
VORk4oG65yc-02890-00642096-00642318 them understanding
VORk4oG65yc-02891-00642319-00642575 what it means for women
VORk4oG65yc-02892-00642576-00642822 minority ethnic women and how important
VORk4oG65yc-02893-00642823-00642910 it is
VORk4oG65yc-02894-00642911-00643295 to fit around their culture their needs
VORk4oG65yc-02895-00643296-00643479 more education for employers to ensure
VORk4oG65yc-02896-00643480-00643735 where possible they offer hybrid or
VORk4oG65yc-02897-00643736-00643935 remote working which is
VORk4oG65yc-02898-00643936-00644247 much more accessible for everyone
VORk4oG65yc-02899-00644248-00644431 it's one good thing that's come out of
VORk4oG65yc-02900-00644432-00644703 the pandemic in my opinion is that
VORk4oG65yc-02901-00644704-00644927 remote working is now going to be able
VORk4oG65yc-02902-00644928-00645014 to
VORk4oG65yc-02903-00645015-00645318 give more access to jobs for minority
VORk4oG65yc-02904-00645319-00645495 ethnic women wanting to work because
VORk4oG65yc-02905-00645496-00645662 they can work from home
VORk4oG65yc-02906-00645663-00645855 with children on their laps and they
VORk4oG65yc-02907-00645856-00646039 will do that we've got one person who
VORk4oG65yc-02908-00646040-00646343 works full time she has two children she
VORk4oG65yc-02909-00646344-00646783 just manages around their needs
VORk4oG65yc-02910-00646784-00647039 um so and finally you know we know
VORk4oG65yc-02911-00647040-00647222 gender is an issue we know race is an
VORk4oG65yc-02912-00647223-00647343 issue
VORk4oG65yc-02913-00647344-00647535 and we know that this has been combat
VORk4oG65yc-02914-00647536-00647783 compounded by the pandemic for minority
VORk4oG65yc-02915-00647784-00648022 ethnic women but whatever is done now
VORk4oG65yc-02916-00648023-00648166 going forward
VORk4oG65yc-02917-00648167-00648351 we must be careful that support and
VORk4oG65yc-02918-00648352-00648662 resources do go to the most
VORk4oG65yc-02919-00648663-00649295 um most affected thank you
VORk4oG65yc-02920-00649296-00649655 i see that sarah would like to come in
VORk4oG65yc-02921-00649656-00649943 ah yes um yeah i couldn't agree anymore
VORk4oG65yc-02922-00649944-00650183 with what everything that has been said
VORk4oG65yc-02923-00650184-00650375 um thank you so much for all the
VORk4oG65yc-02924-00650376-00650583 iterating that um with regards to
VORk4oG65yc-02925-00650584-00650735 employment i just wanted to add
VORk4oG65yc-02926-00650736-00650910 something about the teacher profession
VORk4oG65yc-02927-00650911-00651018 and gt
VORk4oG65yc-02928-00651019-00651239 gtcs standards
VORk4oG65yc-02929-00651240-00651327 um
VORk4oG65yc-02930-00651328-00651518 or teachers are you know there's a lot
VORk4oG65yc-02931-00651519-00651743 of qualified teachers
VORk4oG65yc-02932-00651744-00651966 in other countries that just find it you
VORk4oG65yc-02933-00651967-00652207 know exceedingly hard to qualify here in
VORk4oG65yc-02934-00652208-00652359 the uk
VORk4oG65yc-02935-00652360-00652735 uh scotland has a target to meet by 2030
VORk4oG65yc-02936-00652736-00652910 and to ensure that happens we need to
VORk4oG65yc-02937-00652911-00653135 employ we need to accept features of a
VORk4oG65yc-02938-00653136-00653335 diverse background into teacher
VORk4oG65yc-02939-00653336-00653614 education programs 300 every year
VORk4oG65yc-02940-00653615-00653799 and you know they're not sticking in the
VORk4oG65yc-02941-00653800-00653999 profession they're not saying and a lot
VORk4oG65yc-02942-00654000-00654199 of it is because of hostile environments
VORk4oG65yc-02943-00654200-00654470 and i i do think if there is an easier
VORk4oG65yc-02944-00654471-00654918 way to ensure bme um workers in scotland
VORk4oG65yc-02945-00654919-00655159 know their rights and if we can shift
VORk4oG65yc-02946-00655160-00655375 that burden of proof a little bit then
VORk4oG65yc-02947-00655376-00655622 employers will have to be
VORk4oG65yc-02948-00655623-00655887 more aware of what's right and what's
VORk4oG65yc-02949-00655888-00656166 wrong and you know yes racism it is
VORk4oG65yc-02950-00656167-00656407 institutionalized but it is also you
VORk4oG65yc-02951-00656408-00656575 know it is man-made
VORk4oG65yc-02952-00656576-00656743 it is something that can be reversed
VORk4oG65yc-02953-00656744-00656958 with a lot of work and i'm hopeful and
VORk4oG65yc-02954-00656959-00657118 i'm faithful that
VORk4oG65yc-02955-00657119-00657327 it will happen perhaps not for my
VORk4oG65yc-02956-00657328-00657655 generation but for um generations um
VORk4oG65yc-02957-00657656-00657935 that follow us and
VORk4oG65yc-02958-00657936-00658303 thank you again for having us here
VORk4oG65yc-02959-00658304-00658503 thanks sarah i'm and i'm just going to
VORk4oG65yc-02960-00658504-00658783 go to palm gossel for a last quick
VORk4oG65yc-02961-00658784-00659007 question
VORk4oG65yc-02962-00659008-00659239 thank you very much convener question
VORk4oG65yc-02963-00659240-00659462 was around him
VORk4oG65yc-02964-00659463-00659807 you talked about working harder than
VORk4oG65yc-02965-00659808-00660047 your colleagues you know white females
VORk4oG65yc-02966-00660048-00660239 white males i just wanted to ask a
VORk4oG65yc-02967-00660240-00660583 question around that that
VORk4oG65yc-02968-00660584-00660783 did you work harder because i mean i've
VORk4oG65yc-02969-00660784-00660935 been talking to a lot of being women as
VORk4oG65yc-02970-00660936-00661095 well and reading a lot of the books and
VORk4oG65yc-02971-00661096-00661343 stuff that sometimes we feel we need to
VORk4oG65yc-02972-00661344-00661614 work harder to put our position in
VORk4oG65yc-02973-00661615-00661910 society and make you know uh the guilt
VORk4oG65yc-02974-00661911-00662191 that we just need to work and um for to
VORk4oG65yc-02975-00662192-00662327 be noticed
VORk4oG65yc-02976-00662328-00662510 do you think it's that or do you think
VORk4oG65yc-02977-00662511-00662814 it was more the employer that was um is
VORk4oG65yc-02978-00662815-00663103 pushing you to work um differently from
VORk4oG65yc-02979-00663104-00663199 other
VORk4oG65yc-02980-00663200-00663414 colleagues i think i put it kind of
VORk4oG65yc-02981-00663415-00663751 right
VORk4oG65yc-02982-00663752-00664007 um i think i think it's both i think is
VORk4oG65yc-02983-00664008-00664175 the pressure that you have of you know
VORk4oG65yc-02984-00664176-00664375 i've had a baby but it doesn't matter
VORk4oG65yc-02985-00664376-00664527 i'll still do this i'll still do that
VORk4oG65yc-02986-00664528-00664727 i'll do you know i'll go over and beyond
VORk4oG65yc-02987-00664728-00665047 to prove that my male counterparts um
VORk4oG65yc-02988-00665048-00665279 are not uh getting some sort of
VORk4oG65yc-02989-00665280-00665447 advantage over me when it comes to a
VORk4oG65yc-02990-00665448-00665591 promoted post
VORk4oG65yc-02991-00665592-00665814 and so i think a lot of a lot of that is
VORk4oG65yc-02992-00665815-00666055 self-imposed pressure
VORk4oG65yc-02993-00666056-00666175 you know a bit like you know when it
VORk4oG65yc-02994-00666176-00666462 comes from the culture um but i do think
VORk4oG65yc-02995-00666463-00666551 um
VORk4oG65yc-02996-00666552-00666727 there you know
VORk4oG65yc-02997-00666728-00666910 there are times where you are given
VORk4oG65yc-02998-00666911-00667127 extra work you think why why am i giving
VORk4oG65yc-02999-00667128-00667358 extra work i remember coming back from a
VORk4oG65yc-03000-00667359-00667575 weekend when i was ill and there was an
VORk4oG65yc-03001-00667576-00667847 email sent to all my department and they
VORk4oG65yc-03002-00667848-00668007 you know they asked them who can
VORk4oG65yc-03003-00668008-00668262 supervise these you know mini discretion
VORk4oG65yc-03004-00668263-00668447 that people have to do and nobody
VORk4oG65yc-03005-00668448-00668614 answered when i came back i opened my
VORk4oG65yc-03006-00668615-00668791 email and it landed on my desk and i'm
VORk4oG65yc-03007-00668792-00669110 like there's 12 people here why why am i
VORk4oG65yc-03008-00669111-00669407 not you know so i you know i i fought it
VORk4oG65yc-03009-00669408-00669535 and you know i didn't have to do it in
VORk4oG65yc-03010-00669536-00669814 the end but it it does seem to be you
VORk4oG65yc-03011-00669815-00670055 know i think and i think with little
VORk4oG65yc-03012-00670056-00670183 yeah i think for
VORk4oG65yc-03013-00670184-00670431 when staff needs to be disciplined i
VORk4oG65yc-03014-00670432-00670639 think women often get those emails or
VORk4oG65yc-03015-00670640-00670807 those you know little comments like oh
VORk4oG65yc-03016-00670808-00671031 you didn't do quite right and you know
VORk4oG65yc-03017-00671032-00671343 i do think it is targeted um
VORk4oG65yc-03018-00671344-00671687 i i'm not saying it's conscious
VORk4oG65yc-03019-00671688-00672014 but it is there
VORk4oG65yc-03020-00672015-00672358 thank you sarah thank you
VORk4oG65yc-03021-00672359-00672703 okay thank you thank you pam yeah
VORk4oG65yc-03022-00672704-00672910 yeah that's me thank you okay
VORk4oG65yc-03023-00672911-00673118 thanks very much and i i i guess that
VORk4oG65yc-03024-00673119-00673287 that last point was something that
VORk4oG65yc-03025-00673288-00673551 certainly that men in particular need to
VORk4oG65yc-03026-00673552-00673735 always be mindful of because sometimes
VORk4oG65yc-03027-00673736-00673879 elimination isn't conscious but that
VORk4oG65yc-03028-00673880-00674110 doesn't make it doesn't make it okay
VORk4oG65yc-03029-00674111-00674543 sure so thanks um hugely to all everyone
VORk4oG65yc-03030-00674544-00674735 for for coming along today
VORk4oG65yc-03031-00674736-00674903 giving us a little bit more of of your
VORk4oG65yc-03032-00674904-00675127 time than than you'd agreed to um has
VORk4oG65yc-03033-00675128-00675318 been really really helpful so thank you
VORk4oG65yc-03034-00675319-00675503 all very much we're now going to move
VORk4oG65yc-03035-00675504-00675687 into private session and we'll start
VORk4oG65yc-03036-00675688-00675918 that private session in five minutes
VORk4oG65yc-03037-00675919-00676087 if committee members time for a quick
VORk4oG65yc-03038-00676088-00676571 break thank you thanks all right
VR7MmFbjO6g-00000-00000003-00000196 hey everyone my name is Carly and
VR7MmFbjO6g-00001-00000197-00000467 welcome back to my channel today I'm
VR7MmFbjO6g-00002-00000468-00000829 doing a book haul I like don't you do
VR7MmFbjO6g-00003-00000830-00000974 book hauls because I never buy enough
VR7MmFbjO6g-00004-00000975-00001337 books and once to warrant doing a book
VR7MmFbjO6g-00005-00001338-00001474 haul because otherwise I'd be making a
VR7MmFbjO6g-00006-00001475-00001643 video be like look at this one book I
VR7MmFbjO6g-00007-00001644-00002143 bought which yeah it doesn't make for a
VR7MmFbjO6g-00008-00002144-00002450 very exciting video but over the last
VR7MmFbjO6g-00009-00002451-00002582 few months I have bought some newer
VR7MmFbjO6g-00010-00002583-00002756 books I am really talked about them and
VR7MmFbjO6g-00011-00002757-00003013 I recently just bought some more
VR7MmFbjO6g-00012-00003014-00003538 yesterday the day before the day after
VR7MmFbjO6g-00013-00003539-00003752 today the day after I bought some books
VR7MmFbjO6g-00014-00003753-00003926 on so I figured I have some time enough
VR7MmFbjO6g-00015-00003927-00004045 to maybe make up a little video about
VR7MmFbjO6g-00016-00004046-00004276 this and I want to talk about them so
VR7MmFbjO6g-00017-00004277-00004645 let's start the first two books I was
VR7MmFbjO6g-00018-00004646-00004777 really surprised fine I found them up
VR7MmFbjO6g-00019-00004778-00004994 Barnes a novel in their clearance
VR7MmFbjO6g-00020-00004995-00005117 section so I got both of these for under
VR7MmFbjO6g-00021-00005118-00005393 $10 which I think I'm going to Barnes
VR7MmFbjO6g-00022-00005394-00005708 enough well that's a great deal and I
VR7MmFbjO6g-00023-00005709-00006220 got these in July I'm in too early July
VR7MmFbjO6g-00024-00006221-00006377 something like that so we'll start with
VR7MmFbjO6g-00025-00006378-00006575 that first one I have here is summer
VR7MmFbjO6g-00026-00006576-00006946 lots to by Ally Condie this is following
VR7MmFbjO6g-00027-00006947-00007325 our main character as she and her family
VR7MmFbjO6g-00028-00007326-00007567 are spending the last like month or so
VR7MmFbjO6g-00029-00007568-00007808 of summer in this kind of almost
VR7MmFbjO6g-00030-00007809-00007967 vacation house that their mom just
VR7MmFbjO6g-00031-00007968-00008207 bought and so far it seems to be dealing
VR7MmFbjO6g-00032-00008208-00008408 with a lot of grief because the main
VR7MmFbjO6g-00033-00008409-00008833 characters died and brother work
VR7MmFbjO6g-00034-00008834-00009230 recently a recently deceased and so it's
VR7MmFbjO6g-00035-00009231-00009473 just kind of her in the family her I
VR7MmFbjO6g-00036-00009474-00009677 their brother and her mom kind of trying
VR7MmFbjO6g-00037-00009678-00009874 to cope with that and deal with it um
VR7MmFbjO6g-00038-00009875-00010148 and she meets this boy looks like they
VR7MmFbjO6g-00039-00010149-00010406 will go on some sort of adventure it's
VR7MmFbjO6g-00040-00010407-00010646 supposed to be metaphorical for the main
VR7MmFbjO6g-00041-00010647-00010967 character getting over our doing but the
VR7MmFbjO6g-00042-00010968-00011245 grief so far it's been really good I've
VR7MmFbjO6g-00043-00011246-00011492 only just started so I'm really not that
VR7MmFbjO6g-00044-00011493-00011738 far into it that's why about the green
VR7MmFbjO6g-00045-00011739-00011987 mark but it's really really short
VR7MmFbjO6g-00046-00011988-00012155 chapters it's been really quick so far
VR7MmFbjO6g-00047-00012156-00012406 and it's really tiny so I think I'll fly
VR7MmFbjO6g-00048-00012407-00012524 through this and then the next one I
VR7MmFbjO6g-00049-00012525-00012835 thought at that same time was
VR7MmFbjO6g-00050-00012836-00013357 the Terra Terra not by TC Boyle this one
VR7MmFbjO6g-00051-00013358-00014080 oh wow I I only just noticed this writer
VR7MmFbjO6g-00052-00014081-00014386 some back of the cover this seemed to be
VR7MmFbjO6g-00053-00014387-00014524 some sort of almost like I asked
VR7MmFbjO6g-00054-00014525-00014758 basically it seemed like there were
VR7MmFbjO6g-00055-00014759-00015079 these okay as climate change threatens
VR7MmFbjO6g-00056-00015080-00015250 the earth eight scientists four-minute
VR7MmFbjO6g-00057-00015251-00015388 poor woman dubbed the Terra knots have
VR7MmFbjO6g-00058-00015388-00015547 been selected to live under glass candy
VR7MmFbjO6g-00059-00015547-00015808 to a prototype of a possible off earth
VR7MmFbjO6g-00060-00015809-00016081 colony with five Iommi's rainforest
VR7MmFbjO6g-00061-00016082-00016344 savanna desert ocean and marsh so it
VR7MmFbjO6g-00062-00016346-00016450 seems like we're gonna follow these
VR7MmFbjO6g-00063-00016451-00016669 characters as they live within these
VR7MmFbjO6g-00064-00016670-00016915 confined spaces and that's kind of that
VR7MmFbjO6g-00065-00016916-00017230 in okay it's not a pretty interesting to
VR7MmFbjO6g-00066-00017231-00017266 me
VR7MmFbjO6g-00067-00017267-00017431 I mean so I picked it up and I what you
VR7MmFbjO6g-00068-00017432-00017548 guys know what I thought that when I do
VR7MmFbjO6g-00069-00017549-00017710 finally read it but also this cover is
VR7MmFbjO6g-00070-00017711-00017899 actually kind of cool a little bit and
VR7MmFbjO6g-00071-00017900-00018313 then as I show you that and so at the
VR7MmFbjO6g-00072-00018314-00018736 end of July I went to Europe for three
VR7MmFbjO6g-00073-00018737-00019012 weeks it was gone for most of August
VR7MmFbjO6g-00074-00019013-00019183 because of this and one of the places I
VR7MmFbjO6g-00075-00019184-00019524 went to was London and thinking of like
VR7MmFbjO6g-00076-00019525-00019771 souvenirs for myself to get I ended up
VR7MmFbjO6g-00077-00019772-00019987 remembering that I was of mint is an
VR7MmFbjO6g-00078-00019988-00020188 English author I huge fan of Alice
VR7MmFbjO6g-00079-00020189-00020434 Osmond I loved her first two books I
VR7MmFbjO6g-00080-00020435-00020622 love heart-stopper comic I follow her on
VR7MmFbjO6g-00081-00020623-00020866 Instagram on Twitter and all that stuff
VR7MmFbjO6g-00082-00020867-00021106 and I I love her I remembered that she
VR7MmFbjO6g-00083-00021107-00021340 had a new book come out in May but it
VR7MmFbjO6g-00084-00021341-00021568 look I can't really get a easily get my
VR7MmFbjO6g-00085-00021569-00021712 hands on it here in America so I was
VR7MmFbjO6g-00086-00021713-00021934 like oh my gosh I'm going to London what
VR7MmFbjO6g-00087-00021935-00022171 better place to pick up her new book
VR7MmFbjO6g-00088-00022172-00022425 then in London so that's exactly what I
VR7MmFbjO6g-00089-00022426-00022621 did was I picked up I was born for this
VR7MmFbjO6g-00090-00022622-00022879 by Alice Osmond well in London and I'm
VR7MmFbjO6g-00091-00022880-00023179 like almost did not find it I was gonna
VR7MmFbjO6g-00092-00023180-00023419 be so heartbroken and then I having to
VR7MmFbjO6g-00093-00023420-00023544 look down on a table and it was right
VR7MmFbjO6g-00094-00023545-00023938 there and I was so happy yeah it follows
VR7MmFbjO6g-00095-00023939-00024097 I've already read this I loved it
VR7MmFbjO6g-00096-00024098-00024496 just FYI yeah but it follows I mean two
VR7MmFbjO6g-00097-00024497-00024637 main character he's got angel and you
VR7MmFbjO6g-00098-00024638-00024853 got Jimmy and Angel is a fan of this
VR7MmFbjO6g-00099-00024854-00025044 band called the Ark and Jimmy is let me
VR7MmFbjO6g-00100-00025045-00025093 say
VR7MmFbjO6g-00101-00025094-00025261 the air can you follow the route this
VR7MmFbjO6g-00102-00025262-00025492 week where is the things coming and that
VR7MmFbjO6g-00103-00025493-00025630 it's going wrong and how their lives
VR7MmFbjO6g-00104-00025631-00025861 intertwined with each other it was so
VR7MmFbjO6g-00105-00025862-00026017 good I loved it I spent through this
VR7MmFbjO6g-00106-00026018-00026260 it's Alice Osmond just kind of her
VR7MmFbjO6g-00107-00026261-00026449 writing in storytelling I'm just getting
VR7MmFbjO6g-00108-00026450-00026839 it better and better and also when I was
VR7MmFbjO6g-00109-00026839-00026962 in London that was my first time ever be
VR7MmFbjO6g-00110-00026963-00027289 in London and I bought this book at the
VR7MmFbjO6g-00111-00027289-00027445 beginning of August like August first I
VR7MmFbjO6g-00112-00027445-00027700 still have the receipt somewhere from it
VR7MmFbjO6g-00113-00027701-00027973 angel one of the main characters in the
VR7MmFbjO6g-00114-00027974-00028201 book literally this book starts out with
VR7MmFbjO6g-00115-00028202-00028429 a Joe saying that she goes to London to
VR7MmFbjO6g-00116-00028430-00028579 see this band and it's first time in
VR7MmFbjO6g-00117-00028580-00028792 London and it's August I was obviously
VR7MmFbjO6g-00118-00028793-00028939 meant to buy this book in London in
VR7MmFbjO6g-00119-00028939-00029320 August it was a meant to be what we got
VR7MmFbjO6g-00120-00029320-00029641 back just recently I and I picked up
VR7MmFbjO6g-00121-00029642-00029745 check please
VR7MmFbjO6g-00122-00029747-00030049 a book one has to take hockey buying ago
VR7MmFbjO6g-00123-00030050-00030424 see you Kazu why not I am a huge fan of
VR7MmFbjO6g-00124-00030425-00030511 check please
VR7MmFbjO6g-00125-00030512-00030688 it is a webcomic that follows the main
VR7MmFbjO6g-00126-00030689-00031030 character Finney throughout his college
VR7MmFbjO6g-00127-00031031-00031285 years on the sand well hockey team and
VR7MmFbjO6g-00128-00031286-00031543 just him and that has a tower teammate
VR7MmFbjO6g-00129-00031544-00031885 and romance and high baking and it's
VR7MmFbjO6g-00130-00031886-00032185 it's so good I have been following this
VR7MmFbjO6g-00131-00032186-00032374 since comics since like almost the
VR7MmFbjO6g-00132-00032375-00032650 beginning and there was no way that I
VR7MmFbjO6g-00133-00032651-00032923 was not going to buy this for myself
VR7MmFbjO6g-00134-00032924-00033058 despite the fact that I have read
VR7MmFbjO6g-00135-00033059-00033220 through these this comic because this
VR7MmFbjO6g-00136-00033221-00033343 one only while it was year one and two
VR7MmFbjO6g-00137-00033344-00033456 year two and I read through that
VR7MmFbjO6g-00138-00033457-00033763 multiple times but that you also get the
VR7MmFbjO6g-00139-00033764-00033946 extra comics from from these time
VR7MmFbjO6g-00140-00033947-00034165 periods and one thing I've never done
VR7MmFbjO6g-00141-00034166-00034594 was read buddies tweets and so that's
VR7MmFbjO6g-00142-00034595-00034783 included in this and it was just overall
VR7MmFbjO6g-00143-00034784-00034990 a great reading experience and this is
VR7MmFbjO6g-00144-00034991-00035122 one of those rare moments for I think
VR7MmFbjO6g-00145-00035123-00035332 I'm gonna look like the day it comes out
VR7MmFbjO6g-00146-00035333-00035578 but yeah so obviously I read this if you
VR7MmFbjO6g-00147-00035579-00035767 have not read this please do yourself a
VR7MmFbjO6g-00148-00035768-00036046 favor and check this out it's so good
VR7MmFbjO6g-00149-00036047-00036397 and just recently and then yesterday
VR7MmFbjO6g-00150-00036398-00036655 from what I'm filming this book there's
VR7MmFbjO6g-00151-00036656-00036898 this festival in a town nearby that we
VR7MmFbjO6g-00152-00036899-00037063 always go to and that this festival like
VR7MmFbjO6g-00153-00037064-00037255 I always have this small use book thing
VR7MmFbjO6g-00154-00037256-00037411 um kinda have to pick your order and dig
VR7MmFbjO6g-00155-00037412-00037555 your way through but they are super
VR7MmFbjO6g-00156-00037556-00037815 cheap we're talking $1 for a paperback
VR7MmFbjO6g-00157-00037816-00037918 $2 for a heart
VR7MmFbjO6g-00158-00037919-00038279 hardcover book I mean it's insane so I
VR7MmFbjO6g-00159-00038280-00038432 always like checking it out and I
VR7MmFbjO6g-00160-00038433-00038642 usually find a few which is exactly what
VR7MmFbjO6g-00161-00038643-00038887 happened the first one I found and
VR7MmFbjO6g-00162-00038888-00039170 couldn't say no to was evil Under the
VR7MmFbjO6g-00163-00039171-00039401 Sun by Agatha Christie this is one of
VR7MmFbjO6g-00164-00039402-00039586 those student paperbacks where there is
VR7MmFbjO6g-00165-00039587-00039914 no synopsis of the book so I don't know
VR7MmFbjO6g-00166-00039915-00040099 what this book is about but I will tell
VR7MmFbjO6g-00167-00040100-00040267 you I'm a huge fan of I got the Christie
VR7MmFbjO6g-00168-00040268-00040457 and I know for a fact that I have not
VR7MmFbjO6g-00169-00040458-00040679 read this one yet
VR7MmFbjO6g-00170-00040680-00040936 so there was no way I was not going to
VR7MmFbjO6g-00171-00040937-00041255 pick it up Agatha Christie if you do not
VR7MmFbjO6g-00172-00041256-00041536 know is a really big writer like 20 to
VR7MmFbjO6g-00173-00041537-00041792 30 and she's really known she wrote a
VR7MmFbjO6g-00174-00041793-00041962 lot a lot of murder mysteries and she's
VR7MmFbjO6g-00175-00041963-00042101 really known for her twists which I
VR7MmFbjO6g-00176-00042102-00042323 thought really good the next one I
VR7MmFbjO6g-00177-00042324-00042727 picked up was how Palisades Park by
VR7MmFbjO6g-00178-00042728-00043076 Allen Rennert and it just looked like it
VR7MmFbjO6g-00179-00043077-00043226 was following this family it says
VR7MmFbjO6g-00180-00043227-00043390 growing up in the 1930s there's no more
VR7MmFbjO6g-00181-00043391-00043540 magical place in New Jersey than
VR7MmFbjO6g-00182-00043541-00043765 Palisades amusement park especially for
VR7MmFbjO6g-00183-00043766-00043990 seven-year-old Tobey that's there's the
VR7MmFbjO6g-00184-00043991-00044123 stand where she and her family sell
VR7MmFbjO6g-00185-00044124-00044245 homemade french fries and there's also
VR7MmFbjO6g-00186-00044246-00044452 the lair of the world's biggest salt
VR7MmFbjO6g-00187-00044453-00044626 water pool complete with divers who
VR7MmFbjO6g-00188-00044627-00044899 astonishing stunts as fire Tony just by
VR7MmFbjO6g-00189-00044900-00045055 her mother's insistence that girls can't
VR7MmFbjO6g-00190-00045056-00045346 be high divers but the world ensures the
VR7MmFbjO6g-00191-00045347-00045479 Great Depression of Pearl Harbor both
VR7MmFbjO6g-00192-00045480-00045607 hit home in ways that was split the
VR7MmFbjO6g-00193-00045608-00045782 family part and perils like fire and
VR7MmFbjO6g-00194-00045783-00045970 racial tensions rise in the park Tony's
VR7MmFbjO6g-00195-00045971-00046136 father and brother face both face the
VR7MmFbjO6g-00196-00046137-00046292 dangers of war and Tony is determined to
VR7MmFbjO6g-00197-00046293-00046460 take on a very different kind of danger
VR7MmFbjO6g-00198-00046461-00046708 and impossible feats as a high diver yet
VR7MmFbjO6g-00199-00046709-00046861 time and again they are drawn back to
VR7MmFbjO6g-00200-00046862-00047008 each other and to Palace
VR7MmFbjO6g-00201-00047009-00047242 yeah I think I'm pretty sure I've heard
VR7MmFbjO6g-00202-00047243-00047392 of this before and I was kind of
VR7MmFbjO6g-00203-00047393-00047617 intrigued by it when I excuse me when I
VR7MmFbjO6g-00204-00047618-00047758 heard of it first but I wasn't gonna pay
VR7MmFbjO6g-00205-00047759-00048011 the price so I think I paid maybe two
VR7MmFbjO6g-00206-00048012-00048361 dollars for this paper back but
VR7MmFbjO6g-00207-00048362-00048643 regardless um like picking a the kinds
VR7MmFbjO6g-00208-00048644-00048892 of books up just because I'm here so
VR7MmFbjO6g-00209-00048893-00049007 often this is what I'm in the mood to
VR7MmFbjO6g-00210-00049008-00049192 read more so and then the next one I
VR7MmFbjO6g-00211-00049193-00049402 found was the strange and beautiful
VR7MmFbjO6g-00212-00049403-00049627 Sorrows of Ava lavender by Leslye
VR7MmFbjO6g-00213-00049628-00049961 Moulton and I think the since I was a
VR7MmFbjO6g-00214-00049962-00050230 review poppy so maybe I wasn't supposed
VR7MmFbjO6g-00215-00050231-00050380 to buy it or something I don't know
VR7MmFbjO6g-00216-00050381-00050542 because this also says the man's praise
VR7MmFbjO6g-00217-00050543-00050625 but there's also
VR7MmFbjO6g-00218-00050626-00050805 so is that a thing this is also
VR7MmFbjO6g-00219-00050806-00051147 hardcover is that a thing all I really
VR7MmFbjO6g-00220-00051148-00051351 know about this is that you have a main
VR7MmFbjO6g-00221-00051352-00051491 character named Ava lavender and I think
VR7MmFbjO6g-00222-00051492-00051840 she has wings but I've also heard many
VR7MmFbjO6g-00223-00051841-00052196 book tubers wave about it so I was I'm a
VR7MmFbjO6g-00224-00052197-00052367 little worried about we needed his the
VR7MmFbjO6g-00225-00052369-00052554 last Leslie Walden book I read with
VR7MmFbjO6g-00226-00052554-00052776 press guide to the occult and I wasn't a
VR7MmFbjO6g-00227-00052777-00053037 huge that was just a very meth book to
VR7MmFbjO6g-00228-00053038-00053274 me but you know what for two bucks - for
VR7MmFbjO6g-00229-00053275-00053619 two bucks well I'll give it a chance
VR7MmFbjO6g-00230-00053620-00053991 I'll give it a shot that are the those
VR7MmFbjO6g-00231-00053991-00054254 are the books that I have recently but
VR7MmFbjO6g-00232-00054255-00054533 not very many but it's more than I
VR7MmFbjO6g-00233-00054534-00054900 usually buy act in a small in a shorter
VR7MmFbjO6g-00234-00054901-00055419 amount yes and I don't know you can tell
VR7MmFbjO6g-00235-00055420-00055641 me whatever you want to tell me if you
VR7MmFbjO6g-00236-00055641-00055782 want to tell me anything I'm trying to
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VXhXIMmaIu4-00002-00000542-00000753 studies having the 20th century been
VXhXIMmaIu4-00003-00000754-00000925 occupied with the question of large
VXhXIMmaIu4-00004-00000926-00001087 scale patterns and trends in the
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VXhXIMmaIu4-00012-00003679-00003840 people who were able to engage in
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VXhXIMmaIu4-00031-00007878-00008127 scientists participate in a scientific
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VXhXIMmaIu4-00036-00008950-00009185 into different fields of study the
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VXhXIMmaIu4-00041-00009904-00010080 personally acquired knowledge of any
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VXhXIMmaIu4-00043-00010360-00010574 provides a feedback mechanism often in
VXhXIMmaIu4-00044-00010575-00010755 the form of practices such as peer
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VXhXIMmaIu4-00049-00011740-00011895 journals and are hypothetically
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VXhXIMmaIu4-00052-00012256-00012453 inside and outside the scientific
VXhXIMmaIu4-00053-00012454-00012671 community have in recent decades began
VXhXIMmaIu4-00054-00012672-00012858 to question the effect of commercial and
VXhXIMmaIu4-00055-00012859-00013046 government investment in science on the
VXhXIMmaIu4-00056-00013047-00013250 peer review and publishing process as
VXhXIMmaIu4-00057-00013251-00013410 well as the internal disciplinary
VXhXIMmaIu4-00058-00013411-00013572 limitations to the scientific
VXhXIMmaIu4-00059-00013572-00013913 publication process a major development
VXhXIMmaIu4-00060-00013915-00014118 of the Scientific Revolution was the
VXhXIMmaIu4-00061-00014119-00014319 foundation of scientific societies
VXhXIMmaIu4-00062-00014319-00014538 academia secret orem naturae
VXhXIMmaIu4-00063-00014538-00014787 academia daily Segretti the academy of
VXhXIMmaIu4-00064-00014788-00014931 the mysteries of nature can be
VXhXIMmaIu4-00065-00014932-00015093 considered the first scientific
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VXhXIMmaIu4-00067-00015361-00015656 Giambattista della Porta the academy had
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VXhXIMmaIu4-00069-00015856-00016019 of a new law of nature was a
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VXhXIMmaIu4-00072-00016480-00016830 alleged sorcery the academia secret Orem
VXhXIMmaIu4-00073-00016831-00016980 that taurah was replaced by the
VXhXIMmaIu4-00074-00016981-00017219 accademia dei lincei which was founded
VXhXIMmaIu4-00075-00017220-00017565 in rome in 1603 the lincei included
VXhXIMmaIu4-00076-00017566-00017790 Galileo as a member but failed upon his
VXhXIMmaIu4-00077-00017791-00018165 condemnation in 1633 the academia del
VXhXIMmaIu4-00078-00018166-00018513 cimento floor in 1657 lasted ten years
VXhXIMmaIu4-00079-00018514-00018894 the Royal Society of London 1660 to the
VXhXIMmaIu4-00080-00018895-00019062 present day brought together a diverse
VXhXIMmaIu4-00081-00019063-00019272 collection of scientists to discuss
VXhXIMmaIu4-00082-00019273-00019488 theories conduct experiments and review
VXhXIMmaIu4-00083-00019489-00019563 each other's work
VXhXIMmaIu4-00084-00019564-00019881 the academi des Sciences was created as
VXhXIMmaIu4-00085-00019882-00020052 an institution of the government of
VXhXIMmaIu4-00086-00020053-00020364 France 1666 meeting in the Kings library
VXhXIMmaIu4-00087-00020365-00020675 the academia der wissenschaften began in
VXhXIMmaIu4-00088-00020676-00021075 Berlin 1700 early scientific societies
VXhXIMmaIu4-00089-00021076-00021309 provided valuable functions including a
VXhXIMmaIu4-00090-00021310-00021500 community open to and interested in
VXhXIMmaIu4-00091-00021501-00021735 empirical inquiry and also more familiar
VXhXIMmaIu4-00092-00021736-00021954 with and more educated about the subject
VXhXIMmaIu4-00093-00021955-00022260 in 1758 with the aid of his pupils
VXhXIMmaIu4-00094-00022261-00022524 lagrange established a society which was
VXhXIMmaIu4-00095-00022525-00022716 subsequently incorporated as the turn
VXhXIMmaIu4-00096-00022717-00023019 Academy much of what is considered the
VXhXIMmaIu4-00097-00023020-00023235 modern institution of science was formed
VXhXIMmaIu4-00098-00023236-00023412 during its professionalization in the
VXhXIMmaIu4-00099-00023413-00023685 19th century during this time the
VXhXIMmaIu4-00100-00023686-00023913 location of scientific research shifted
VXhXIMmaIu4-00101-00023914-00024122 primarily to universities though to some
VXhXIMmaIu4-00102-00024123-00024303 extent it also became a standard
VXhXIMmaIu4-00103-00024304-00024567 component of industry as well in the
VXhXIMmaIu4-00104-00024568-00024744 early years of the 20th century
VXhXIMmaIu4-00105-00024745-00024972 especially after the role of science in
VXhXIMmaIu4-00106-00024973-00025068 the First World War
VXhXIMmaIu4-00107-00025069-00025247 governments of major industrial nations
VXhXIMmaIu4-00108-00025248-00025497 began to invest heavily in scientific
VXhXIMmaIu4-00109-00025498-00025758 research this effort was dwarfed by the
VXhXIMmaIu4-00110-00025758-00025908 funding of scientific research
VXhXIMmaIu4-00111-00025908-00026169 undertaken by all sides in world war ii
VXhXIMmaIu4-00112-00026170-00026445 which produced such wonder weapons as
VXhXIMmaIu4-00113-00026445-00026720 radar rocketry and the atomic bomb
VXhXIMmaIu4-00114-00026722-00026967 during the Cold War a large amount of
VXhXIMmaIu4-00115-00026968-00027140 government resources were poured into
VXhXIMmaIu4-00116-00027141-00027423 science by the United States USSR and
VXhXIMmaIu4-00117-00027424-00027702 many European powers it was during this
VXhXIMmaIu4-00118-00027702-00027890 time that DARPA funded nationwide
VXhXIMmaIu4-00119-00027891-00028077 computer networks one of them eventually
VXhXIMmaIu4-00120-00028077-00028374 under the Internet Protocol in the post
VXhXIMmaIu4-00121-00028375-00028589 Cold War era a decline in government
VXhXIMmaIu4-00122-00028591-00028776 funding from many countries has been met
VXhXIMmaIu4-00123-00028777-00028940 with an increase of industrial and
VXhXIMmaIu4-00124-00028941-00029169 private investment the funding of
VXhXIMmaIu4-00125-00029170-00029349 science is a major factor in its
VXhXIMmaIu4-00126-00029350-00029580 historical and global development
VXhXIMmaIu4-00127-00029581-00029802 so although science is hypothetically
VXhXIMmaIu4-00128-00029802-00030008 international in scope in a practical
VXhXIMmaIu4-00129-00030010-00030177 sense it has usually centered around
VXhXIMmaIu4-00130-00030177-00030846 wherever it could find the most funding
VXhXIMmaIu4-00131-00030847-00031137 topic major events in the history of
VXhXIMmaIu4-00132-00031138-00031617 scientific communication
VXhXIMmaIu4-00133-00031618-00031866 the cave paintings depicted events with
VXhXIMmaIu4-00134-00031867-00032256 no commentary from 40,000 BC to 15,000
VXhXIMmaIu4-00135-00032257-00032655 BC the assange go bone dated 25,000
VXhXIMmaIu4-00136-00032656-00032838 years ago could only show tallies in
VXhXIMmaIu4-00137-00032839-00033162 mathematical notation the clay tablets
VXhXIMmaIu4-00138-00033163-00033366 of Mesopotamia showed the scale of the
VXhXIMmaIu4-00139-00033367-00033552 commentary or the information the
VXhXIMmaIu4-00140-00033553-00033753 argument and logic of a discovery would
VXhXIMmaIu4-00141-00033754-00033927 be limited to what fit on the tablet
VXhXIMmaIu4-00142-00033928-00034347 from late 4th millennium onwards poetry
VXhXIMmaIu4-00143-00034348-00034500 and rhyme allowed people to remember
VXhXIMmaIu4-00144-00034501-00034731 memorable events more easily for example
VXhXIMmaIu4-00145-00034732-00035004 the Chinese generation names are taken
VXhXIMmaIu4-00146-00035005-00035316 from a poem selected by each family the
VXhXIMmaIu4-00147-00035317-00035514 parchment and paper Scrolls which arose
VXhXIMmaIu4-00148-00035515-00035709 in Greek and in Chinese culture could
VXhXIMmaIu4-00149-00035710-00035862 start to contain the history and
VXhXIMmaIu4-00150-00035863-00036098 development of ideas and discoveries
VXhXIMmaIu4-00151-00036099-00036339 parchment was invented in Pergamon in
VXhXIMmaIu4-00152-00036340-00036600 the 2nd century BC while the manufacture
VXhXIMmaIu4-00153-00036601-00036777 of paper was described for the first
VXhXIMmaIu4-00154-00036778-00037122 time in 105 AD in China it was brought
VXhXIMmaIu4-00155-00037123-00037317 to Western world only in the 13th
VXhXIMmaIu4-00156-00037318-00037647 century the Codex or book of medieval
VXhXIMmaIu4-00157-00037648-00037851 times allowed random access to specific
VXhXIMmaIu4-00158-00037852-00038166 passages the systematic printing and
VXhXIMmaIu4-00159-00038167-00038328 production of books could then allow the
VXhXIMmaIu4-00160-00038329-00038637 systematic production of new ideas from
VXhXIMmaIu4-00161-00038638-00038979 late 1st century onwards by the 20th
VXhXIMmaIu4-00162-00038980-00039156 century the scale and scope of
VXhXIMmaIu4-00163-00039157-00039372 scientific work allowed collaboration of
VXhXIMmaIu4-00164-00039373-00039531 researchers and the definition of
VXhXIMmaIu4-00165-00039532-00039684 consistent protocols for this
VXhXIMmaIu4-00166-00039685-00040374 collaboration in scientific work
VXhXIMmaIu4-00167-00040375-00040934 topic political support
VXhXIMmaIu4-00168-00040935-00041150 one of the basic requirements for a
VXhXIMmaIu4-00169-00041151-00041369 scientific community as the existence
VXhXIMmaIu4-00170-00041370-00041579 and approval of a political sponsor in
VXhXIMmaIu4-00171-00041580-00041804 England the Royal Society operates under
VXhXIMmaIu4-00172-00041805-00042020 the aegis of the monarchy in the u.s.
VXhXIMmaIu4-00173-00042021-00042248 the National Academy of Sciences was
VXhXIMmaIu4-00174-00042249-00042401 founded by act of the United States
VXhXIMmaIu4-00175-00042402-00042758 Congress etc otherwise when the basic
VXhXIMmaIu4-00176-00042759-00042893 elements of knowledge were being
VXhXIMmaIu4-00177-00042894-00043100 formulated the political rulers of the
VXhXIMmaIu4-00178-00043101-00043259 respective communities could choose to
VXhXIMmaIu4-00179-00043260-00043475 arbitrarily either support or disallowed
VXhXIMmaIu4-00180-00043476-00043742 the nascent scientific communities for
VXhXIMmaIu4-00181-00043743-00043982 example al Hazen had to feign madness to
VXhXIMmaIu4-00182-00043983-00044252 avoid execution the polymath shen KU o
VXhXIMmaIu4-00183-00044253-00044453 lost political support and could not
VXhXIMmaIu4-00184-00044454-00044639 continue his studies until he came up
VXhXIMmaIu4-00185-00044640-00044801 with discoveries that showed his worth
VXhXIMmaIu4-00186-00044802-00045092 to the political rulers the admiral jung
VXhXIMmaIu4-00187-00045093-00045269 he could not continue his voyages of
VXhXIMmaIu4-00188-00045270-00045485 exploration after the emperors withdrew
VXhXIMmaIu4-00189-00045486-00045773 their support another famous example was
VXhXIMmaIu4-00190-00045774-00045956 the suppression of the work of galileo
VXhXIMmaIu4-00191-00045957-00046208 by the 20th century galileo would be
VXhXIMmaIu4-00192-00046209-00046751 pardoned
VXhXIMmaIu4-00193-00046752-00047254 topic patterns in the history of science
VXhXIMmaIu4-00194-00047255-00047414 you
VXhXIMmaIu4-00195-00047415-00047654 one of the major occupations with those
VXhXIMmaIu4-00196-00047655-00047858 interested in the history of science as
VXhXIMmaIu4-00197-00047859-00048026 whether or not it displays certain
VXhXIMmaIu4-00198-00048027-00048239 patterns or trends usually along the
VXhXIMmaIu4-00199-00048240-00048415 question of change between one or more
VXhXIMmaIu4-00200-00048416-00048710 scientific theories generally speaking
VXhXIMmaIu4-00201-00048711-00048908 there have historically been three major
VXhXIMmaIu4-00202-00048909-00049133 models adopted in various forms within
VXhXIMmaIu4-00203-00049134-00049287 the philosophy of science
VXhXIMmaIu4-00204-00049288-00049604 the first major model implicit in most
VXhXIMmaIu4-00205-00049605-00049817 early histories of science and generally
VXhXIMmaIu4-00206-00049818-00050006 a model put forward by practicing
VXhXIMmaIu4-00207-00050007-00050201 scientists themselves in their textbook
VXhXIMmaIu4-00208-00050202-00050390 literature is associated with the
VXhXIMmaIu4-00209-00050391-00050651 criticisms of logical positivism by karl
VXhXIMmaIu4-00210-00050652-00051079 popper 1902 to 1994 from the 1930s
VXhXIMmaIu4-00211-00051080-00051332 poppers model of science as one in which
VXhXIMmaIu4-00212-00051333-00051539 scientific progress is achieved through
VXhXIMmaIu4-00213-00051540-00051751 a falsification of incorrect theories
VXhXIMmaIu4-00214-00051752-00051929 and the adoption instead of theories
VXhXIMmaIu4-00215-00051929-00052124 which are progressively closer to truth
VXhXIMmaIu4-00216-00052125-00052429 in this model scientific progress has a
VXhXIMmaIu4-00217-00052430-00052651 linear accumulation of facts each one
VXhXIMmaIu4-00218-00052652-00052919 adding to the last in this model the
VXhXIMmaIu4-00219-00052920-00053309 physics of Aristotle 384 BC to 322 BC
VXhXIMmaIu4-00220-00053310-00053582 was simply subsumed by the work of Isaac
VXhXIMmaIu4-00221-00053583-00054014 Newton 1642 to 1727 classical mechanics
VXhXIMmaIu4-00222-00054015-00054224 which itself was eclipsed by the work of
VXhXIMmaIu4-00223-00054225-00054662 Albert Einstein 1879 to 1955 relativity
VXhXIMmaIu4-00224-00054663-00054826 and later the theory of quantum
VXhXIMmaIu4-00225-00054827-00055124 mechanics established in 1925 each one
VXhXIMmaIu4-00226-00055125-00055403 more accurate than the last a major
VXhXIMmaIu4-00227-00055404-00055591 challenge to this model came from the
VXhXIMmaIu4-00228-00055592-00055736 work of the historian and philosopher
VXhXIMmaIu4-00229-00055737-00056204 Thomas Kuhn 1922 to 1996 in his work the
VXhXIMmaIu4-00230-00056204-00056344 structure of scientific revolutions
VXhXIMmaIu4-00231-00056345-00056753 published in 1962 Kuhn a former
VXhXIMmaIu4-00232-00056754-00056954 physicist argued against the view that
VXhXIMmaIu4-00233-00056954-00057173 scientific progress was linear and that
VXhXIMmaIu4-00234-00057174-00057338 modern scientific theories were
VXhXIMmaIu4-00235-00057339-00057560 necessarily just more accurate versions
VXhXIMmaIu4-00236-00057561-00057829 of theories of the past rather Koons
VXhXIMmaIu4-00237-00057830-00057985 version of scientific development
VXhXIMmaIu4-00238-00057986-00058214 consisted of dominant structures of
VXhXIMmaIu4-00239-00058215-00058390 thought and practices which he called
VXhXIMmaIu4-00240-00058391-00058703 paradigms in which research went through
VXhXIMmaIu4-00241-00058704-00059078 phases of normal science puzzle solving
VXhXIMmaIu4-00242-00059079-00059471 and revolutionary science testing out
VXhXIMmaIu4-00243-00059472-00059639 new theories based on new assumptions
VXhXIMmaIu4-00244-00059640-00059876 brought on by uncertainty and crisis in
VXhXIMmaIu4-00245-00059877-00060142 existing theories in Koons model
VXhXIMmaIu4-00246-00060144-00060365 different paradigms represented entirely
VXhXIMmaIu4-00247-00060366-00060554 different in incommensurate assumptions
VXhXIMmaIu4-00248-00060554-00060696 about the universe
VXhXIMmaIu4-00249-00060697-00060873 the mode was thus uncertain about
VXhXIMmaIu4-00250-00060874-00061077 whether paradigms shifted in a way which
VXhXIMmaIu4-00251-00061078-00061254 necessarily relied upon greater
VXhXIMmaIu4-00252-00061254-00061509 attainment of truth in Koons view
VXhXIMmaIu4-00253-00061510-00061710 Aristotle's physics Newton's classical
VXhXIMmaIu4-00254-00061711-00061974 mechanics and Einstein's relativity were
VXhXIMmaIu4-00255-00061975-00062157 entirely different ways to think about
VXhXIMmaIu4-00256-00062158-00062346 the world each successive paradigm
VXhXIMmaIu4-00257-00062347-00062538 defined what questions could be asked
VXhXIMmaIu4-00258-00062539-00062721 about the world and perhaps arbitrarily
VXhXIMmaIu4-00259-00062722-00062925 discarded aspects of the previous
VXhXIMmaIu4-00260-00062926-00063084 paradigm which no longer seemed
VXhXIMmaIu4-00261-00063085-00063357 applicable or important kuhn claimed
VXhXIMmaIu4-00262-00063358-00063522 that far from merely building on the
VXhXIMmaIu4-00263-00063523-00063711 previous theories accomplishments each
VXhXIMmaIu4-00264-00063712-00063905 new paradigm essentially throws out the
VXhXIMmaIu4-00265-00063907-00064091 old way of looking at the universe and
VXhXIMmaIu4-00266-00064092-00064287 comes up with its own vocabulary to
VXhXIMmaIu4-00267-00064288-00064473 describe it in its own guidelines for
VXhXIMmaIu4-00268-00064474-00064620 expanding knowledge within the new
VXhXIMmaIu4-00269-00064621-00064904 paradigm Koons model met with much
VXhXIMmaIu4-00270-00064905-00065160 suspicion from scientists historians and
VXhXIMmaIu4-00271-00065161-00065249 philosophers
VXhXIMmaIu4-00272-00065250-00065532 some scientists felt that Kuhn went too
VXhXIMmaIu4-00273-00065533-00065724 far in divorcing scientific progress
VXhXIMmaIu4-00274-00065725-00065970 from truth many historians felt that his
VXhXIMmaIu4-00275-00065971-00066186 argument was to codify for something as
VXhXIMmaIu4-00276-00066187-00066411 poly variant and historically contingent
VXhXIMmaIu4-00277-00066412-00066558 a scientific change and many
VXhXIMmaIu4-00278-00066559-00066765 philosophers felt that the argument did
VXhXIMmaIu4-00279-00066766-00067035 not go far enough the furthest extreme
VXhXIMmaIu4-00280-00067036-00067224 of such reasoning was put forth by the
VXhXIMmaIu4-00281-00067225-00067638 philosopher Paul Feyerabend 1924 to 1994
VXhXIMmaIu4-00282-00067639-00067833 who argued that there were no consistent
VXhXIMmaIu4-00283-00067834-00068058 methodologies used by all scientists at
VXhXIMmaIu4-00284-00068059-00068250 all times which allowed certain forms of
VXhXIMmaIu4-00285-00068251-00068375 inquiry to be labeled
VXhXIMmaIu4-00286-00068376-00068637 scientific in a way which made them
VXhXIMmaIu4-00287-00068638-00068817 different from any other form of inquiry
VXhXIMmaIu4-00288-00068818-00069138 such as witchcraft Feyerabend argued
VXhXIMmaIu4-00289-00069139-00069293 harshly against the notion that
VXhXIMmaIu4-00290-00069294-00069531 falsification was ever truly followed in
VXhXIMmaIu4-00291-00069532-00069717 the history of science and noted that
VXhXIMmaIu4-00292-00069718-00069942 scientists had long undertaken practices
VXhXIMmaIu4-00293-00069943-00070146 to arbitrarily consider theories to be
VXhXIMmaIu4-00294-00070147-00070332 accurate even if they failed many sets
VXhXIMmaIu4-00295-00070333-00070611 of tests Feyerabend argued that a
VXhXIMmaIu4-00296-00070612-00070794 pluralistic methodology should be
VXhXIMmaIu4-00297-00070795-00070977 undertaken for the investigation of
VXhXIMmaIu4-00298-00070978-00071166 knowledge and noted that many forms of
VXhXIMmaIu4-00299-00071167-00071331 knowledge which were previously thought
VXhXIMmaIu4-00300-00071332-00071688 to be non-scientific were later accepted
VXhXIMmaIu4-00301-00071689-00071921 as a valid part of the scientific canon
VXhXIMmaIu4-00302-00071922-00072210 many other theories of scientific change
VXhXIMmaIu4-00303-00072211-00072381 have been proposed over the years with
VXhXIMmaIu4-00304-00072382-00072549 various changes of emphasis and
VXhXIMmaIu4-00305-00072550-00072831 implications in general though most
VXhXIMmaIu4-00306-00072832-00072993 floats somewhere between these three
VXhXIMmaIu4-00307-00072994-00073209 models for change in scientific theory
VXhXIMmaIu4-00308-00073210-00073401 the connection between theory and truth
VXhXIMmaIu4-00309-00073402-00073766 and the nature of scientific progress
VXhXIMmaIu4-00310-00073767-00074118 you
VXhXIMmaIu4-00311-00074119-00074813 topic the nature of scientific discovery
VXhXIMmaIu4-00312-00074814-00075081 individual ideas and accomplishments are
VXhXIMmaIu4-00313-00075082-00075288 among the most famous aspects of science
VXhXIMmaIu4-00314-00075289-00075542 both internally and in larger society
VXhXIMmaIu4-00315-00075543-00075771 breakthrough figures like Sir Isaac
VXhXIMmaIu4-00316-00075772-00075966 Newton or Albert Einstein are often
VXhXIMmaIu4-00317-00075967-00076185 celebrated as geniuses and heroes of
VXhXIMmaIu4-00318-00076186-00076452 science popularizers of science
VXhXIMmaIu4-00319-00076453-00076677 including the news media and scientific
VXhXIMmaIu4-00320-00076678-00076836 biographers contribute to this
VXhXIMmaIu4-00321-00076837-00077073 phenomenon but many scientific
VXhXIMmaIu4-00322-00077074-00077280 historians emphasize the collective
VXhXIMmaIu4-00323-00077281-00077505 aspects of scientific discovery and to
VXhXIMmaIu4-00324-00077506-00077748 emphasize the importance of the Eureka
VXhXIMmaIu4-00325-00077749-00078114 moment a detailed look at the history of
VXhXIMmaIu4-00326-00078115-00078321 science often reveals that the minds of
VXhXIMmaIu4-00327-00078322-00078474 great thinkers were primed with the
VXhXIMmaIu4-00328-00078475-00078672 results of previous efforts and often
VXhXIMmaIu4-00329-00078673-00078858 arrived on the scene to find a crisis of
VXhXIMmaIu4-00330-00078859-00079143 one kind or another for example Einstein
VXhXIMmaIu4-00331-00079144-00079371 did not consider the physics of motion
VXhXIMmaIu4-00332-00079372-00079647 and gravitation in isolation his major
VXhXIMmaIu4-00333-00079648-00079851 accomplishment solved a problem which
VXhXIMmaIu4-00334-00079852-00080046 had come to a head in the field only in
VXhXIMmaIu4-00335-00080047-00080313 recent years empirical data showing that
VXhXIMmaIu4-00336-00080314-00080496 the speed of light was inexplicably
VXhXIMmaIu4-00337-00080497-00080715 constant no matter the apparent speed of
VXhXIMmaIu4-00338-00080716-00080934 the observer see Michelson Morley
VXhXIMmaIu4-00339-00080935-00081159 experiment without this information it
VXhXIMmaIu4-00340-00081160-00081354 is very unlikely that Einstein would
VXhXIMmaIu4-00341-00081355-00081483 have conceived of anything like
VXhXIMmaIu4-00342-00081484-00081744 relativity the question of who should
VXhXIMmaIu4-00343-00081745-00081957 get credit for any given discovery is
VXhXIMmaIu4-00344-00081958-00082233 often a source of some controversy there
VXhXIMmaIu4-00345-00082234-00082431 are many priority disputes in which
VXhXIMmaIu4-00346-00082432-00082629 multiple individuals or teams have
VXhXIMmaIu4-00347-00082630-00082809 competing claims over who discovered
VXhXIMmaIu4-00348-00082810-00083063 something first multiple simultaneous
VXhXIMmaIu4-00349-00083064-00083316 discovery is actually a surprisingly
VXhXIMmaIu4-00350-00083317-00083520 common phenomenon perhaps largely
VXhXIMmaIu4-00351-00083521-00083724 explained by the idea that previous
VXhXIMmaIu4-00352-00083725-00083937 contributions including the emergence of
VXhXIMmaIu4-00353-00083938-00084153 contradictions between existing theories
VXhXIMmaIu4-00354-00084154-00084384 or unexpected empirical results make a
VXhXIMmaIu4-00355-00084385-00084608 certain concept ready for discovery
VXhXIMmaIu4-00356-00084609-00084870 simple priority disputes are often a
VXhXIMmaIu4-00357-00084871-00085035 matter of documenting when certain
VXhXIMmaIu4-00358-00085036-00085230 experiments were performed or when
VXhXIMmaIu4-00359-00085231-00085452 certain ideas were first articulated to
VXhXIMmaIu4-00360-00085453-00085682 colleagues or recorded in a fixed medium
VXhXIMmaIu4-00361-00085683-00085977 many times the question of exactly which
VXhXIMmaIu4-00362-00085978-00086169 event should qualify as the moment of
VXhXIMmaIu4-00363-00086170-00086445 discovery is difficult to answer one of
VXhXIMmaIu4-00364-00086446-00086652 the most famous examples of this is the
VXhXIMmaIu4-00365-00086653-00086825 question of the discovery of oxygen
VXhXIMmaIu4-00366-00086826-00087111 while Carl Wilhelm Scheele and Joseph
VXhXIMmaIu4-00367-00087112-00087261 Priestley were able to concentrate
VXhXIMmaIu4-00368-00087262-00087453 oxygen in the laboratory and
VXhXIMmaIu4-00369-00087454-00087648 characterize its properties they did not
VXhXIMmaIu4-00370-00087649-00087883 recognize it as a component of air
VXhXIMmaIu4-00371-00087884-00088072 Priestley actually thought it was
VXhXIMmaIu4-00372-00088073-00088285 missing a hypothetical component of air
VXhXIMmaIu4-00373-00088286-00088468 known as phlogiston which air was
VXhXIMmaIu4-00374-00088469-00088660 supposed to absorb from materials that
VXhXIMmaIu4-00375-00088661-00088912 are being burned it was only several
VXhXIMmaIu4-00376-00088913-00089122 years later that Antoine Lavoisier first
VXhXIMmaIu4-00377-00089123-00089338 conceived of the modern notion of oxygen
VXhXIMmaIu4-00378-00089339-00089572 as a substance that is consumed from the
VXhXIMmaIu4-00379-00089573-00089749 air in the processes of burning and
VXhXIMmaIu4-00380-00089750-00090060 respiration by the late 20th century
VXhXIMmaIu4-00381-00090061-00090256 scientific research has become a
VXhXIMmaIu4-00382-00090257-00090475 large-scale effort largely accomplished
VXhXIMmaIu4-00383-00090476-00090751 in institutional teams the amount and
VXhXIMmaIu4-00384-00090752-00090964 frequency of inter team collaboration
VXhXIMmaIu4-00385-00090965-00091174 has continued to increase especially
VXhXIMmaIu4-00386-00091175-00091336 after the rise of the internet which is
VXhXIMmaIu4-00387-00091337-00091551 a central tool for the modern scientific
VXhXIMmaIu4-00388-00091552-00091813 community this further complicates the
VXhXIMmaIu4-00389-00091814-00092007 notion of individual accomplishment in
VXhXIMmaIu4-00390-00092008-00092527 science
VXhXIMmaIu4-00391-00092528-00093069 topic see also
VXhXIMmaIu4-00392-00093070-00093479 historiography of science inquiry
VXhXIMmaIu4-00393-00093480-00093819 scientific method
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00000-00000003-00000286 a metal detector is an electronic
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00001-00000287-00000478 instrument which detects the presence of
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00002-00000479-00000794 metal nearby metal detectors are useful
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00003-00000795-00000986 for finding metal inclusions hidden
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00004-00000986-00001193 within objects or metal objects buried
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00005-00001194-00001481 underground they often consist of a
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00006-00001482-00001700 handheld unit with a sensor probe which
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00007-00001701-00001882 can be swept over the ground or other
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00008-00001884-00002195 objects if the sensor comes near a piece
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00009-00002196-00002434 of metal this is indicated by a changing
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00010-00002435-00002657 tone in earphones or a needle moving on
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00011-00002658-00002945 an indicator usually the device gives
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00012-00002946-00003149 some indication of distance the closer
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00013-00003150-00003338 the metal is the higher the tone in the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00014-00003339-00003561 earphone or the higher the needle goes
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00015-00003563-00003884 another common type a stationary walk
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00016-00003885-00004142 through metal detectors used for
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00017-00004143-00004361 security screening and access points in
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00018-00004362-00004592 prisons courthouses and airports to
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00019-00004593-00004777 detect concealed metal weapons on a
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00020-00004778-00005093 person's body the simplest form of a
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00021-00005094-00005309 metal detector consists of an oscillator
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00022-00005310-00005516 producing an alternating current that
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00023-00005517-00005708 passes through a coil producing an
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00024-00005709-00006020 alternating magnetic field if a piece of
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00025-00006021-00006215 electrically conductive metal is close
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00026-00006216-00006386 to the coil eddy currents will be
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00027-00006387-00006592 induced in the metal and this produces a
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00028-00006593-00006878 magnetic field of its own if another
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00029-00006879-00007045 coil is used to measure the magnetic
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00030-00007047-00007295 field acting as a magnetometer the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00031-00007295-00007508 change in the magnetic field due to the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00032-00007509-00007810 metallic object can be detected the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00033-00007811-00008020 first industrial metal detectors were
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00034-00008022-00008267 developed in the 1960s and were used
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00035-00008268-00008492 extensively for mineral prospecting and
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00036-00008493-00008692 other industrial applications
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00037-00008693-00008992 uses include detecting landmines the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00038-00008993-00009199 detection of weapons such as knives and
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00039-00009200-00009421 guns especially in airport security
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00040-00009422-00009689 geophysical prospecting archaeology and
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00041-00009690-00009949 treasure hunting metal detectors are
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00042-00009950-00010174 also used to detect foreign bodies in
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00043-00010175-00010403 food and in the construction industry to
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00044-00010404-00010603 detect steel reinforcing bars in
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00045-00010604-00010828 concrete and pipes and wires buried in
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00046-00010829-00011617 walls and floors topic history and
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00047-00011618-00012159 development towards the end of
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00048-00012160-00012389 19th century many scientists and
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00049-00012390-00012560 engineers used their growing knowledge
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00050-00012561-00012767 of electrical theory in an attempt to
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00051-00012768-00012941 devise a machine which would pinpoint
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00052-00012942-00013266 metal the use of such a device to find
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00053-00013266-00013449 or barring rocks would give a huge
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00054-00013450-00013685 advantage to any miner who employed it
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00055-00013686-00013971 early machines were crude used a lot of
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00056-00013972-00014211 battery power and worked only to a very
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00057-00014212-00014643 limited degree in 1874 Parisian inventor
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00058-00014644-00014838 Gustave trouve developed a hand-held
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00059-00014838-00015078 device for locating and extracting metal
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00060-00015079-00015263 objects such as bullets from human
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00061-00015265-00015609 patients inspired by trove Alexander
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00062-00015610-00015804 Graham Bell developed a similar device
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00063-00015805-00016022 to attempt to locate a bullet lodged in
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00064-00016023-00016209 the chest of American President James
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00065-00016210-00016494 Garfield in 1881 the metal detector
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00066-00016495-00016674 worked correctly but the attempt was
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00067-00016675-00016860 unsuccessful because the metal coil
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00068-00016861-00017052 spring bed Garfield was lying on
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00069-00017053-00017796 confused the detector topic modern
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00070-00017797-00018357 developments the modern development of
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00071-00018358-00018668 the metal detector began in the 1920s
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00072-00018669-00018947 gerhard fisher had developed a system of
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00073-00018948-00019110 radio direction-finding
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00074-00019111-00019250 which was to be used for accurate
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00075-00019251-00019560 navigation the system worked extremely
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00076-00019561-00019752 well but fisher noticed there were
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00077-00019753-00019931 anomalies in areas where the terrain
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00078-00019932-00020256 contained or bearing rocks he reasoned
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00079-00020257-00020469 that if a radio beam could be distorted
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00080-00020470-00020658 by metal then it should be possible to
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00081-00020659-00020844 design a machine which would detect
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00082-00020845-00021084 metal using a search coil resonating at
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00083-00021085-00021525 a radio frequency in 1925 he applied for
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00084-00021526-00021738 and was granted the first patent for a
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00085-00021739-00021849 metal detector
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00086-00021850-00022097 although gerhard fisher was the first
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00087-00022098-00022296 person granted a patent for a metal
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00088-00022297-00022521 detector the first to apply was schorl
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00089-00022522-00022719 hair a businessman from Crawfordsville
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00090-00022720-00023046 Indiana his application for a handheld
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00091-00023047-00023250 hidden metal detector was filed in
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00092-00023251-00023568 February 1924 but not patented until
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00093-00023569-00023964 July 1928 hair assisted Italian leader
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00094-00023965-00024203 Benito Mussolini in recovering items
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00095-00024204-00024387 remaining from the emperor Caligula's
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00096-00024388-00024618 galleys at the bottom of Lake nemi Italy
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00097-00024619-00025022 in August 1929 Herz invention was used
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00098-00025023-00025275 by Admiral Richard Byrd second Antarctic
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00099-00025276-00025539 expedition in 1933 when it
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00100-00025540-00025715 was used to locate objects left behind
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00101-00025716-00026067 by earlier explorers it was effective up
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00102-00026068-00026408 to a depth of eight feet however it was
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00103-00026410-00026612 one lieutenant Joseph Stanislaw Co
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00104-00026613-00026843 Satsuki a Polish officer attached to a
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00105-00026844-00027146 unit stationed in st. Andrews v Scotland
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00106-00027147-00027381 during the early years of World War two
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00107-00027382-00027587 who refined the design into a practical
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00108-00027588-00027912 Polish mine detector these units were
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00109-00027913-00028145 still quite heavy as they ran on vacuum
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00110-00028147-00028399 tubes and needed separate battery packs
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00111-00028400-00028707 the design invented by Co Satsuki was
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00112-00028708-00028905 used extensively during the Second
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00113-00028906-00029018 Battle of El Alamein
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00114-00029019-00029250 when 500 units were shipped to Field
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00115-00029251-00029418 Marshal Montgomery to clear the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00116-00029419-00029615 minefields of the retreating Germans and
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00117-00029616-00029846 later used during the Allied invasion of
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00118-00029847-00030081 Sicily the Allied invasion of Italy and
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00119-00030082-00030308 the invasion of Normandy as the creation
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00120-00030310-00030483 and refinement of the device was a
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00121-00030483-00030732 wartime military research operation the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00122-00030733-00030924 knowledge that cassettes key created the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00123-00030925-00031143 first practical metal detector was kept
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00124-00031144-00031771 secret for over 50 years
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00125-00031772-00032400 topic further refinements many
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00126-00032401-00032592 manufacturers of these new devices
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00127-00032593-00032818 brought their own ideas to the market
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00128-00032819-00033114 White's electronics of Oregon began in
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00129-00033115-00033375 the 1950s by building a machine called
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00130-00033376-00033645 the or master Geiger counter another
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00131-00033646-00033849 leader in detector technology was
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00132-00033850-00034077 Charles Garrett who pioneered the BFO
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00133-00034078-00034407 beat frequency oscillator machine with
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00134-00034408-00034581 the invention and development of the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00135-00034582-00034956 transistor in the 1950s and 1960s metal
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00136-00034957-00035118 detector manufacturers and designers
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00137-00035119-00035327 made smaller lighter machines with
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00138-00035328-00035529 improved circuitry running on small
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00139-00035530-00035832 battery packs companies sprang up all
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00140-00035833-00036045 over the United States and Britain to
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00141-00036046-00036351 supply the growing demand modern top
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00142-00036352-00036582 models are fully computerized using
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00143-00036583-00036798 integrated circuit technology to allow
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00144-00036799-00036977 the user to set sensitivity
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00145-00036978-00037202 discrimination track speed threshold
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00146-00037203-00037512 volume notch filters etc and hold these
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00147-00037513-00037760 parameters in memory for future use
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00148-00037761-00038058 compared to just a decade ago detectors
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00149-00038059-00038256 a lighter deeper seeking use less
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00150-00038257-00038510 battery power and discriminate better
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00151-00038511-00038775 state of the art metal detectors have
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00152-00038776-00038937 further incorporated
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00153-00038938-00039108 of wireless technologies for the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00154-00039109-00039342 earphones connect to Wi-Fi networks and
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00155-00039343-00039657 Bluetooth devices some also utilize
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00156-00039658-00039948 built-in GPS locator technology to keep
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00157-00039949-00040131 track of searching location and the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00158-00040132-00040449 location of items found some connect to
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00159-00040450-00040629 smartphone applications to further
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00160-00040630-00040965 extend functionality larger portable
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00161-00040966-00041115 metal detectors are used by
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00162-00041116-00041298 archeologists and treasure hunters to
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00163-00041299-00041541 locate metallic items such as jewelry
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00164-00041542-00041763 coins bullets and other various
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00165-00041764-00042434 artifacts buried beneath the surface
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00166-00042435-00043062 topic discriminators the biggest
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00167-00043063-00043272 technical change in detectors was the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00168-00043273-00043452 development of the induction balance
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00169-00043453-00043752 system this system involved two coils
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00170-00043753-00043986 that were electrically balanced when
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00171-00043987-00044145 metal was introduced to their vicinity
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00172-00044146-00044442 they would become unbalanced what
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00173-00044443-00044613 allowed detectors to discriminate
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00174-00044614-00044817 between metals was the fact that every
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00175-00044818-00044976 metal has a different phase response
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00176-00044977-00045263 when exposed to alternating current
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00177-00045264-00045498 scientists had long known of this fact
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00178-00045499-00045699 in time detectors were developed that
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00179-00045700-00045888 could selectively detect desirable
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00180-00045889-00046154 metals while ignoring undesirable ones
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00181-00046155-00046470 even with discriminators it was still a
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00182-00046471-00046692 challenge to avoid undesirable metals
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00183-00046693-00046881 because some of them have similar phase
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00184-00046882-00047094 responses age a tin foil and gold
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00185-00047095-00047370 particularly in alloy form thus
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00186-00047371-00047592 improperly tuning out certain metals
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00187-00047593-00047778 increased the risk of passing over a
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00188-00047779-00048087 valuable find another disadvantage of
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00189-00048088-00048297 discriminators was that they reduced the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00190-00048298-00049074 sensitivity of the machines topic new
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00191-00049075-00049137 coil
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00192-00049138-00049719 designs coil designers also tried out
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00193-00049720-00049953 innovative designs the original
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00194-00049954-00050190 induction balanced coil system consisted
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00195-00050191-00050421 of two identical coils placed on top of
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00196-00050422-00050514 one another
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00197-00050515-00050763 compass electronics produced a new
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00198-00050764-00051024 design two coils in a D shape mounted
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00199-00051025-00051276 back-to-back to form a circle this
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00200-00051277-00051582 system was widely used in the 1970s and
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00201-00051583-00051801 both concentric and d-type or wider
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00202-00051802-00051999 scanners they became known had their
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00203-00052000-00052269 fans another development was the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00204-00052270-00052434 invention of detectors which could
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00205-00052435-00052632 cancel out the effect of mineralization
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00206-00052633-00052916 in the ground this gave greater depth
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00207-00052917-00053262 but was a non discriminated lower
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00208-00053263-00053480 frequencies than those used before and
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00209-00053482-00053745 frequencies of 3 to 20 kilohertz were
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00210-00053746-00053937 found to produce the best results
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00211-00053938-00054305 many detectors in the 1970s had a switch
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00212-00054307-00054491 which enabled the user to switch between
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00213-00054492-00054675 the discriminate mode and the non
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00214-00054676-00054972 discriminate mode later development
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00215-00054973-00055164 switched electronically between both
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00216-00055165-00055407 modes the development of the induction
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00217-00055408-00055638 balance detector would ultimately result
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00218-00055639-00055863 in the motion detector which constantly
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00219-00055864-00056016 checked and balanced the background
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00220-00056016-00056352 mineralization the size of the coil can
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00221-00056353-00056586 limit or optimize the size of the target
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00222-00056587-00056904 detected a very small coil can generally
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00223-00056904-00057090 pick up smaller targets better than a
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00224-00057091-00057435 larger coil conversely a larger coil can
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00225-00057436-00057636 usually detect larger objects from
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00226-00057637-00057888 farther away and sometimes sacrifices
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00227-00057889-00058098 being able to detect smaller objects
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00228-00058099-00058386 even up close there are trade-offs for
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00229-00058387-00058707 what they detect tourist is trying to
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00230-00058708-00058979 find usually a detector user needs to
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00231-00058980-00059225 decide which size coil will be used on
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00232-00059226-00059469 some high-performance detectors
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00233-00059470-00059700 sometimes the coil size is fixed the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00234-00059701-00059925 coil cannot be changed to optimize the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00235-00059926-00060150 circuitry for detecting smaller objects
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00236-00060151-00060345 while still giving good depth on larger
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00237-00060346-00060648 objects some higher performance metal
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00238-00060649-00060842 detectors allow the user to change the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00239-00060844-00061086 coil size to optimize what the user is
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00240-00061087-00061272 searching for a good example is very
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00241-00061273-00061548 tiny gold pieces usually requiring a
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00242-00061549-00061851 smaller coil recent coil advancements
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00243-00061852-00062057 have had a smaller coil inside a larger
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00244-00062058-00062259 coil and the circuitry is creating
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00245-00062260-00062460 special timings between the two coils
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00246-00062461-00062536 two Optima
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00247-00062537-00062751 smaller and larger object detection
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00248-00062752-00063052 simultaneously generally when using a
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00249-00063053-00063244 metal detector the user should select
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00250-00063245-00063552 the coil size based on ground coverage
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00251-00063553-00063991 desired sensitivity to smaller objects
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00252-00063991-00064179 distance that large objects can be
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00253-00064180-00064434 detected and the amount of ground noise
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00254-00064435-00064723 that the coil will pick up or be able to
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00255-00064724-00065119 cancel smaller coils are sometimes used
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00256-00065120-00065353 to focus the detecting search area to be
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00257-00065354-00065698 smaller thereby avoiding trash that may
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00258-00065699-00066430 be present in a location topic pulse
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00259-00066431-00067024 induction at the same time developers
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00260-00067025-00067174 were looking at using a different
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00261-00067175-00067360 technique in metal detection called
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00262-00067361-00067612 pulse induction unlike the beat
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00263-00067613-00067816 frequency oscillator or the induction
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00264-00067817-00068026 balance machines which both used a
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00265-00068027-00068227 uniform alternating current at a low
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00266-00068228-00068446 frequency the pulse induction pie
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00267-00068447-00068665 machine simply magnetized the ground
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00268-00068666-00068875 with a relatively powerful momentary
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00269-00068876-00069130 current through a search coil in the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00270-00069131-00069343 absence of metal the field decayed at a
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00271-00069344-00069541 uniform rate and the time it took to
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00272-00069542-00069715 fall to zero volts could be accurately
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00273-00069716-00069822 measured
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00274-00069823-00070075 however if metal was present when the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00275-00070076-00070315 Machine fired a small eddy current would
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00276-00070316-00070522 be induced in the metal and the time for
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00277-00070523-00070728 sensed current decay would be increased
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00278-00070729-00071011 these time differences were minute but
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00279-00071012-00071203 the improvement in electronics made it
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00280-00071204-00071398 possible to measure them accurately and
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00281-00071399-00071587 identify the presence of metal at a
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00282-00071588-00071881 reasonable distance these new machines
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00283-00071882-00072061 had one major advantage
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00284-00072062-00072223 they were mostly impervious to the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00285-00072224-00072451 effects of mineralization and rings and
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00286-00072452-00072667 other jewelry could now be located even
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00287-00072668-00072961 under highly mineralized black sand the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00288-00072962-00073186 addition of computer control and digital
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00289-00073187-00073405 signal processing have further improved
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00290-00073406-00073753 pulse induction sensors the advantages
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00291-00073754-00074077 for using a PI detector include the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00292-00074078-00074416 ability to punch through heavy mineral
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00293-00074417-00074644 soil in some cases the heavy mineral
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00294-00074645-00074863 content may even help the PI detector
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00295-00074864-00075310 function better wearer VLF detector is
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00296-00075311-00075610 usually greatly affected negatively a pi
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00297-00075611-00076992 is not topic uses
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00298-00076993-00077662 topic archeology metal detectors are
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00299-00077663-00077869 widely used in archaeology with the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00300-00077870-00078118 first recorded use by military historian
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00301-00078119-00078463 Don Ricky in 1958 who used one to detect
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00302-00078464-00078687 the firing lines at Little Bighorn
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00303-00078688-00078964 however archaeologists opposed the use
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00304-00078965-00079270 of metal detectors by artifact seekers
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00305-00079271-00079711 or site looters whose activities disrupt
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00306-00079712-00079876 archaeological sites
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00307-00079877-00080110 the problem with use of metal detectors
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00308-00080111-00080341 in archaeological sites or hobbyist who
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00309-00080342-00080557 find objects of archaeological interest
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00310-00080558-00080755 is that the context that the object was
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00311-00080756-00080992 found in is lost and no detailed survey
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00312-00080993-00081274 of its surroundings is made outside of
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00313-00081275-00081508 known sites the significance of objects
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00314-00081509-00081682 may not be apparent to a metal detector
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00315-00081683-00082075 hobbyist United States the sale of metal
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00316-00082076-00082360 detectors is allowed in US you can use
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00317-00082361-00082615 metal detectors in public places parks
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00318-00082616-00082900 beaches etc and on private property with
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00319-00082901-00083056 the permission of the owner of the site
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00320-00083057-00083379 in the United States cooperation between
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00321-00083380-00083608 archeologists hunting for the location
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00322-00083609-00083845 of colonial-era Native American villages
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00323-00083846-00084075 and hobbyists has been productive
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00324-00084076-00084313 England and Wales in England and Wales
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00325-00084314-00084550 metal detecting is legal provided that
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00326-00084551-00084739 the land owner has granted permission
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00327-00084740-00084925 and that the area is not a scheduled
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00328-00084926-00085102 ancient monument a Site of Special
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00329-00085103-00085414 Scientific Interest sssi or covered by
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00330-00085415-00085630 elements of the countryside stewardship
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00331-00085631-00086026 scheme the treasure Act 1996 governs
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00332-00086027-00086185 whether or not items that have been
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00333-00086186-00086430 discovered are defined as treasure
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00334-00086431-00086707 finders of items that the Act defines as
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00335-00086708-00086902 treasure must report their fines to the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00336-00086903-00087214 local coroner if they discover items
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00337-00087215-00087394 that are not defined as treasure but
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00338-00087395-00087517 that are of cultural or historical
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00339-00087518-00087811 interest finders can voluntarily report
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00340-00087812-00088003 them to the portable antiquities scheme
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00341-00088004-00088302 and the UK detector fines database
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00342-00088303-00088579 Scotland the situation in Scotland is
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00343-00088580-00088807 very different under the Scots law
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00344-00088808-00089044 principle of bone over concea the crown
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00345-00089045-00089236 has claimed over any object of any
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00346-00089237-00089461 material value where the original owner
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00347-00089462-00089596 cannot be traced
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00348-00089597-00089911 there is also number 300 year limit to
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00349-00089912-00090169 Scottish finds any artifact found
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00350-00090170-00090219 whether
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00351-00090220-00090423 by metal detector survey or from an
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00352-00090424-00090634 archaeological excavation must be
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00353-00090635-00090790 reported to the crown through the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00354-00090791-00090979 treasure trove advisory panel at the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00355-00090980-00091281 national museums of scotland the panel
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00356-00091282-00091471 then determines what will happen to the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00357-00091472-00091761 artefacts reporting is not voluntary and
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00358-00091762-00091948 failure to report the discovery of
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00359-00091949-00092185 historic artifacts is a criminal offence
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00360-00092186-00092318 in Scotland
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00361-00092319-00092584 frança 'the sale of metal detectors is
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00362-00092585-00092868 allowed in France the first use of metal
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00363-00092869-00093048 detectors in France which led to
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00364-00093049-00093255 archaeological discoveries occurred in
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00365-00093256-00093543 1958 people living in the city of grain
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00366-00093544-00093711 cut layers Havering Court who was
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00367-00093712-00093910 seeking copper from World War one bomb
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00368-00093911-00094119 shell with military mine detector found
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00369-00094120-00094396 a Roman silver treasure the French law
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00370-00094397-00094632 on metal detecting is ambiguous because
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00371-00094633-00094854 it refers only to the objective pursued
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00372-00094855-00095160 by the user of a metal detector the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00373-00095161-00095379 first law to regulate the use of metal
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00374-00095380-00095694 detectors was law no 89 to 900 of the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00375-00095695-00096079 18th of December 1989 this last is
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00376-00096080-00096338 resumed without any change in article l
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00377-00096339-00096624 542 to 1 of the code of the heritage
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00378-00096625-00096912 which states that no person may use the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00379-00096913-00097116 equipment for the detection of metal
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00380-00097117-00097317 objects for the purpose of research
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00381-00097318-00097500 monuments and items of interest
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00382-00097501-00097812 prehistory history art and archaeology
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00383-00097813-00098043 without having previously obtained an
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00384-00098044-00098280 administrative authorisation issued
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00385-00098281-00098509 based on the applicants qualification
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00386-00098510-00098804 and the nature and method of research
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00387-00098805-00099109 outside the research of archaeological
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00388-00099110-00099342 objects using a metal detector does not
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00389-00099343-00099585 require specific authorization except
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00390-00099586-00099873 that of the owner of the land we often
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00391-00099874-00100074 read from some archaeologists that the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00392-00100075-00100260 use of a metal detector is itself
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00393-00100261-00100410 prohibited without official
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00394-00100411-00100767 authorization this is false to realize
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00395-00100768-00100929 this one must look to the legislative
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00396-00100930-00101298 intent in enacting the law no 89 to 900
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00397-00101299-00101685 of the 18th of December 1989 asked about
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00398-00101686-00101775 law No
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00399-00101776-00102156 89 to 900 of the 18th of December 1989
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00400-00102157-00102397 by the Member of Parliament mr. call-out
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00401-00102398-00102625 Jack Lang Minister of Culture at the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00402-00102626-00102874 time replied by letter the following the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00403-00102875-00103072 new law does not prohibit the use of
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00404-00103073-00103359 metal detectors but only regulates the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00405-00103360-00103603 use if the purpose of
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00406-00103604-00103752 such use is the search for
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00407-00103753-00103977 archaeological remains prior
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00408-00103978-00104200 authorization is required from my
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00409-00104201-00104557 services apart from this case the law
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00410-00104558-00104797 asked to be reported to the appropriate
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00411-00104798-00105052 authorities and accidental discovery of
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00412-00105053-00105406 archaeological remains the entire letter
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00413-00105407-00105694 of Jack Lang was published in 1990 in a
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00414-00105695-00105922 French metal detection magazine and then
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00415-00105923-00106132 to be visible on internet scanned with
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00416-00106133-00106318 permission of the author of the magazine
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00417-00106319-00106983 on a French metal detection website
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00418-00106983-00107620 topic as a hobby there are various types
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00419-00107621-00107839 of hobby activities involving metal
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00420-00107840-00108166 detectors coin shooting is specifically
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00421-00108167-00108457 targeting coins some coin shooters
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00422-00108458-00108682 conduct historical research to locate
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00423-00108683-00108853 sites with potential to give up
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00424-00108854-00109125 historical and collectible coins
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00425-00109126-00109348 prospecting is looking for valuable
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00426-00109349-00109588 metals like gold silver and copper in
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00427-00109589-00109804 their natural forms such as nuggets or
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00428-00109805-00110149 flakes metal detectors are also used to
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00429-00110150-00110356 search for discarded or lost valuable
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00430-00110357-00110617 man-made objects such as jewelry mobile
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00431-00110618-00110941 phones cameras and other devices some
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00432-00110942-00111151 metal detectors are waterproof to allow
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00433-00111152-00111382 the user to search for submerged objects
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00434-00111383-00111721 in areas of shallow water general metal
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00435-00111722-00111913 detecting is very similar to coins
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00436-00111914-00112117 shooting except that the user is after
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00437-00112118-00112353 any type of historical artifact
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00438-00112354-00112584 detectorists may be dedicated to
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00439-00112585-00112780 preserving historical artifacts and
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00440-00112781-00113107 often have considerable expertise coins
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00441-00113108-00113371 bullets buttons axe heads and buckles
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00442-00113372-00113548 are just a few of the items that are
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00443-00113549-00113736 commonly found by relic hunters in
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00444-00113738-00113965 general the potential is far greater in
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00445-00113966-00114154 Europe and Asia than in many other parts
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00446-00114155-00114439 of the world more valuable finds in
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00447-00114440-00114631 Britain alone include the Staffordshire
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00448-00114632-00114889 hoard of anglo-saxon gold sold for three
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00449-00114890-00115059 million two hundred and eighty-five
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00450-00115060-00115294 thousand pounds the gold Celtic nuoc
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00451-00115295-00115516 talk the Ringel make up West bagged bura
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00452-00115517-00115765 hoard milton keynes hoard roman Crosby
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00453-00115766-00115975 Garrett Helmut Stirling hoard Collett
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00454-00115976-00116253 hoard and thousands of smaller finds
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00455-00116254-00116503 beachcombing is hunting for lost coins
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00456-00116504-00116818 or jewelry on a beach beach hunting can
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00457-00116819-00116989 be as simple or as complicated
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00458-00116990-00117268 as one wishes to make it many dedicated
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00459-00117269-00117478 beach hunters also familiarize
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00460-00117479-00117700 themselves with tide movements and beach
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00461-00117701-00118035 erosion metal detecting clubs across the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00462-00118036-00118294 United States United Kingdom and Canada
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00463-00118295-00118522 exist for hobbyists to learn from others
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00464-00118523-00118732 showoff finds from their hunts and to
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00465-00118733-00118927 learn more about the hobby hobbyists
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00466-00118928-00119109 often use their own metal detecting
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00467-00119110-00119308 lingo when discussing the hobbyist with
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00468-00119308-00120079 others topic politics and conflicts in
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00469-00120080-00120325 the metal detecting hobby in the United
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00470-00120326-00120931 States the metal detecting community and
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00471-00120932-00121099 professional archaeologists have
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00472-00121100-00121315 different ideas related to the recovery
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00473-00121316-00121536 and preservation of historic finds and
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00474-00121538-00121833 locations archaeologists claim that
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00475-00121834-00122032 detector hobbyists take an artifact
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00476-00122033-00122233 centric approach removing these from
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00477-00122233-00122436 their context resulting in a permanent
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00478-00122438-00122688 loss of historical information
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00479-00122689-00122905 archaeological looting of places like
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00480-00122906-00123193 slack farm in 1987 and Petersburg
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00481-00123194-00123382 National Battlefield serve as evidence
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00482-00123383-00123616 against allowing unsupervised metal
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00483-00123617-00124383 detecting in historic locations topic
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00484-00124383-00124975 security screening a series of aircraft
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00485-00124976-00125332 hijackings led the United States in 1972
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00486-00125333-00125575 to adopt metal detector technology to
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00487-00125576-00125782 screen airline passengers initially
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00488-00125783-00126001 using magnetometers that were originally
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00489-00126002-00126186 designed for logging operations to
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00490-00126188-00126459 detect spikes in trees the Finnish
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00491-00126460-00126721 company out Ocampo adapted mining metal
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00492-00126722-00127027 detectors in the 1970s still housed in a
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00493-00127028-00127198 large cylindrical pipe to make a
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00494-00127199-00127363 commercial walk through security
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00495-00127364-00127624 detector the development of these
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00496-00127625-00127858 systems continued in a spin-off company
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00497-00127858-00128053 and systems branded as meta metal
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00498-00128054-00128242 detectors evolved in the form of the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00499-00128243-00128449 rectangular gantry now standard in
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00500-00128450-00128746 airports in common with the developments
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00501-00128747-00128953 in other uses of metal detectors both
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00502-00128954-00129157 alternating current and pulse systems
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00503-00129158-00129360 are used and the design of the coils and
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00504-00129361-00129553 the electronics has moved forward to
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00505-00129554-00129721 improve the discrimination of these
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00506-00129722-00130141 systems in 1995 systems such as the meta
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00507-00130142-00130372 200 appeared with the ability to
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00508-00130373-00130540 indicate the approximate height of the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00509-00130541-00130705 metal object above the ground
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00510-00130706-00130927 enabling security personnel to more
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00511-00130928-00131154 rapidly locate the source of the signal
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00512-00131155-00131431 smaller handheld metal detectors are
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00513-00131432-00131671 also used to locate a metal object on a
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00514-00131672-00132484 person more precisely topic industrial
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00515-00132485-00133042 metal detectors industrial metal
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00516-00133043-00133228 detectors are used in the pharmaceutical
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00517-00133229-00133570 food beverage textile garment plastics
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00518-00133571-00133843 chemicals lumber mining and packaging
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00519-00133844-00134173 industries contamination of food by
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00520-00134174-00134380 metal shards from broken processing
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00521-00134381-00134569 machinery during the manufacturing
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00522-00134570-00134818 process is a major safety issue in the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00523-00134819-00135109 food industry metal detectors for this
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00524-00135110-00135337 purpose are widely used and integrated
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00525-00135338-00135616 into the production line current
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00526-00135617-00135802 practice at garment or apparel industry
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00527-00135803-00136069 plants is to apply metal detecting after
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00528-00136070-00136249 the garments are completely sewn and
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00529-00136250-00136411 before garments are packed to check
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00530-00136412-00136594 whether there is any metal contamination
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00531-00136595-00136915 needle broken needle etc in the garments
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00532-00136916-00137253 this needs to be done for safety reasons
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00533-00137254-00137527 the industrial metal detector was
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00534-00137528-00137740 developed by Bruce Kerr and David his
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00535-00137741-00138142 in 1947 the founding company goring
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00536-00138143-00138403 Kerr pioneered the use and development
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00537-00138404-00138672 of the first industrial metal detector
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00538-00138673-00138961 Mars incorporated was one of the first
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00539-00138962-00139192 customers of goreng Kerr using their met
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00540-00139193-00139414 lock at a metal detector to inspect Mars
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00541-00139415-00139732 bars the basic principle of operation
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00542-00139733-00139984 for the common industrial metal detector
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00543-00139985-00140269 is based on a three coil design this
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00544-00140270-00140503 design utilizes an AM amplitude
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00545-00140504-00140740 modulated transmitting coil and to
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00546-00140741-00140935 receiving coils one on either side of
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00547-00140936-00141217 the transmitter the design and physical
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00548-00141218-00141442 configuration of the receiving coils are
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00549-00141443-00141640 instrumental in the ability to detect
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00550-00141641-00141868 very small metal contaminates of one
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00551-00141869-00142180 millimeter or smaller today modern metal
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00552-00142181-00142372 detectors continue to utilize this
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00553-00142373-00142594 configuration for the detection of
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00554-00142595-00142912 metal the coil configuration is such
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00555-00142913-00143104 that it creates an opening whereby the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00556-00143105-00143325 product food plastics pharmaceuticals
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00557-00143326-00143662 etc passes through the coils this
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00558-00143663-00143764 opening or up
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00559-00143765-00143986 allows the product to enter and exit
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00560-00143987-00144190 through the three coil system producing
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00561-00144191-00144391 an equal but mirrored signal on the to
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00562-00144392-00144706 receiving coils the resulting signals
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00563-00144707-00144832 are summed together effectively
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00564-00144833-00144997 nullifying each other
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00565-00144998-00145237 fortress technology innovated a new
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00566-00145238-00145444 feature that allows the coil structure
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00567-00145445-00145675 of their BSH model to ignore the effects
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00568-00145676-00145966 of vibration even when inspecting
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00569-00145967-00146128 conductive products when a metal
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00570-00146129-00146323 contaminant is introduced into the
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00571-00146324-00146503 product and unequal disturbance is
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00572-00146504-00146812 created this then creates a very small
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00573-00146813-00147055 electronic signal after suitable
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00574-00147056-00147229 amplification a mechanical device
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00575-00147230-00147436 mounted to the conveyor system is
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00576-00147437-00147625 signaled to remove the contaminated
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00577-00147626-00147892 product from the production line this
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00578-00147893-00148111 process is completely automated and
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00579-00148112-00148300 allows manufacturing to operate
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00580-00148301-00149371 uninterrupted topic civil engineering in
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00581-00149372-00149629 civil engineering special metal
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00582-00149630-00149830 detectors cover meters are used to
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00583-00149831-00150567 locate reinforcement bars inside walls
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00584-00150568-00151510 topic see also de mi RA detectorists BBC
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00585-00151511-00151896 television series inductive sensor
VZvoZV2Qn1A-00586-00151897-00152362 induction loop magnet fishing portable
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VfhtQA_0Hm4-00000-00000003-00000193 okay guys let's go ahead and take the
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00001-00000194-00000551 time to do this review for our guide
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00002-00000552-00000749 except this time we're going to do
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00003-00000750-00000978 confidence intervals with proportions
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00004-00000980-00001385 okay so in this one we're gonna say that
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00005-00001386-00001609 Dax is out trying to do a study on the
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00006-00001610-00001798 proportion of individuals in Casper who
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00007-00001800-00001988 went hunting this season he randomly
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00008-00001989-00002185 selected hundred thirty nine people from
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00009-00002186-00002342 the community in heaven report on
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00010-00002343-00002542 whether or not they hunted this year he
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00011-00002543-00002771 decides to make a confidence interval to
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00012-00002772-00002992 approximate the proportion of people
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00013-00002993-00003182 hunting the season he wants to have a
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00014-00003183-00003524 99% confidence level alright so first
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00015-00003525-00003758 things first let's go ahead and look at
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00016-00003759-00004241 our kind of breakdown of our tests and
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00017-00004242-00004420 what our sample and population are so
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00018-00004421-00004606 let's just start at the top so the first
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00019-00004607-00004747 one is that this is the list of the
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00020-00004748-00005038 responses of 139 individuals of whether
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00021-00005039-00005210 or not they went hunting this season
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00022-00005211-00005699 that is our data next one the proportion
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00023-00005700-00006077 of the 139 individuals selected who
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00024-00006078-00006256 responded that they went hunting that is
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00025-00006257-00006445 our statistic that is the sample
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00026-00006447-00006827 proportions that would be e number three
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00027-00006828-00007042 all people living in Casper is our
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00028-00007043-00007189 population or trying to figure out the
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00029-00007190-00007417 proportion of them who went hunting so
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00030-00007418-00007867 that is our once again population so the
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00031-00007868-00008134 139 kasparek selected to respond to
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00032-00008136-00008312 whether or not they win hunting that is
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00033-00008313-00008739 our sample and whether or not a single
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00034-00008740-00008945 respondent from the sample and hunting
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00035-00008946-00009196 this season that is our variable that's
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00036-00009197-00009320 kind of our question that we're asking
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00037-00009321-00009628 and then the proportion of people who
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00038-00009629-00009983 went hunting in all of Casper is our
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00039-00009984-00010295 parameter so that's kind of a breakdown
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00040-00010296-00010448 of how we look at these things remember
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00041-00010449-00010735 like the population is the big group
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00042-00010736-00010967 that we want to make some conclusion
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00043-00010968-00011278 about the sample is some subset of that
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00044-00011279-00011542 population the parameter is like the
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00045-00011543-00011720 truth about the population that we're
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00046-00011721-00012187 trying to estimate the statistic is the
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00047-00012188-00012456 is like our point estimate of that
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00048-00012457-00012701 population parameter that we got from
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00049-00012702-00012955 our sample and our data is just kind of
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00050-00012956-00013154 the list of all the data that we
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00051-00013155-00013358 collected and the very
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00052-00013359-00013568 like the specific question that we asked
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00053-00013569-00013994 all right so at this point we said that
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00054-00013994-00014218 Oh shouldn't be au shaped should be Dax
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00055-00014219-00014468 but anyways he knows that he can only
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00056-00014469-00014621 use the normal approximation insertion
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00057-00014622-00014858 in certain circumstances is he good to
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00058-00014859-00015016 proceed with calculations provide a
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00059-00015018-00015258 short answer explaining why or why not
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00060-00015259-00015785 okay so we would say that we don't know
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00061-00015786-00015977 what the original distribution actually
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00062-00015978-00016297 is it's actually probably like a
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00063-00016298-00016508 Bernoulli distribution of just being yes
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00064-00016509-00016811 or knows but we know that we can use the
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00065-00016812-00017033 central limit theorem if it's big enough
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00066-00017034-00017318 so which says so sense and I responded
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00067-00017319-00017564 yes and the number responded no are both
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00068-00017565-00017725 at least 15 the sample size is
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00069-00017726-00017872 sufficient to invoke the central limit
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00070-00017873-00018110 theorem let's see if that's true let's
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00071-00018111-00018311 go ahead and grab this data we want to
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00072-00018312-00018850 copy it and let's paste it into our data
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00073-00018851-00019508 set or to be our data set and we can
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00074-00019509-00019708 click on view it and we have hunting the
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00075-00019709-00020128 season and let's just get a descriptive
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00076-00020129-00020525 statistic for our active data set and
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00077-00020526-00020725 we've got 93 and 46 those are both
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00078-00020726-00021092 greater than 15 and so we know that we
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00079-00021093-00021247 are good and let's go ahead and take a
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00080-00021248-00021371 second we're going to change this Oh
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00081-00021372-00021814 shade to be the right person to be Dax
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00082-00021815-00022061 okay so now we've got to fix so that
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00083-00022062-00022228 it's actually Dax notice that you can
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00084-00022229-00022459 only use this normal approximation and
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00085-00022460-00022747 we were correct when we actually did
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00086-00022748-00022990 this great so the next thing that we
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00087-00022991-00023189 need is we need the best point estimate
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00088-00023190-00023347 of the true proportion of people who
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00089-00023348-00023494 went opting in cast for this year so
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00090-00023495-00023792 that would be our sample proportion so
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00091-00023793-00023933 what we can do let's first see what our
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00092-00023934-00024161 sample size is so we know that our
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00093-00024162-00024358 sample size is going to be the sum of
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00094-00024359-00024747 the yeses and the knows
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00095-00024748-00025258 so we can just add these guys up and we
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00096-00025259-00025543 got 139 and we want if you want to know
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00097-00025544-00025689 the proportion of people who went
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00098-00025691-00025953 hunting we would take the yeses which
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00099-00025954-00026368 would be this 46 and divide it by the
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00100-00026369-00026667 139 that give us the proportion of
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00101-00026668-00026998 people who went hunting in Casper from
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00102-00026999-00027195 our sample which is our point estimate
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00103-00027197-00027589 it's our best estimate of what the true
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00104-00027589-00027919 population parameter is okay so the next
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00105-00027920-00028077 one down says provide the confidence
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00106-00028079-00028358 interval for the proportion of hunters
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00107-00028360-00028674 okay so now we are approximating what
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00108-00028675-00029080 we're trying to find a range for pi okay
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00109-00029081-00029227 so let's kind of go back up here and
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00110-00029227-00029421 let's take a look at our confidence
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00111-00029422-00029662 interval equation so we know that the
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00112-00029663-00029946 confidence interval is just going to be
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00113-00029947-00030418 simply this P plus or minus our margin
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00114-00030419-00030845 of error and our margin of error is
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00115-00030847-00031318 going to be equal to Z and we need to
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00116-00031319-00031705 find this Z value at the alpha divided
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00117-00031706-00032211 by 2 multiplied by the square root of
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00118-00032212-00032788 what P times P complement and we want to
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00119-00032789-00033077 divide that by n that will give us our
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00120-00033078-00033394 margin of error so we just need to
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00121-00033395-00033538 figure out what is our margin of error
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00122-00033539-00033931 to figure out our z score and we can go
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00123-00033932-00034352 from there so if we figure out our alpha
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00124-00034353-00034657 that is going to be with our confidence
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00125-00034658-00034858 level so we know it's 1 minus the
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00126-00034859-00035052 confidence level so alpha is going to be
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00127-00035053-00035646 0.01 and now we've got basically the
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00128-00035647-00035920 pieces that we need we know what P is we
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00129-00035921-00036595 know that p is equal to this proportion
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00130-00036596-00037232 we know that peak complement is equal to
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00131-00037233-00038161 one minus this guy and so let's figure
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00132-00038162-00038726 out what our standard error is so that's
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00133-00038727-00039240 just going to be the square root of our
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00134-00039241-00040114 P times P complement provided by our
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00135-00040115-00040754 sample size of 139 and so we can grab
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00136-00040755-00041120 this guy toss it into our standard error
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00137-00041121-00041567 and now if we want our Z value let's go
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00138-00041568-00041896 into our commander and we can go to our
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00139-00041897-00042067 random variables continuous
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00140-00042068-00042299 distributions normal because we're using
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00141-00042300-00042583 a Z distribution and go to the quantiles
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00142-00042584-00042826 and the probabilities that we want to
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00143-00042827-00043070 put in here are our alpha divided by 2
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00144-00043071-00043495 and so we know that alpha was 0.01 so
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00145-00043496-00043864 we've got 0.005 because it's divided by
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00146-00043865-00044287 2 and we can click OK and here is our
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00147-00044288-00044695 critical Z value and if you notice I
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00148-00044696-00045157 only copied the absolute value of it
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00149-00045158-00045346 because I'm only interested in like the
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00150-00045347-00045623 distance from the mean right now and so
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00151-00045624-00045986 our margin of error is going to be this
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00152-00045987-00046543 Z value multiplied by our standard error
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00153-00046544-00047014 and that gives me this guy for my margin
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00154-00047015-00047405 of error and so now I just need to do my
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00155-00047406-00047674 p value plus or minus my margin of error
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00156-00047675-00047983 so here's my p value I want to start off
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00157-00047984-00048682 by minus Singh this guy that takes me to
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00158-00048683-00049157 my lower bound I'll just drop it in here
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00159-00049158-00049483 in my upper bound is going to be this
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00160-00049484-00049904 exact same thing only plus
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00161-00049905-00050296 plus or minus from our point estimate of
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00162-00050297-00050654 our sample proportion okay so we know
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00163-00050655-00050792 that this is one would be two-tailed
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00164-00050793-00051023 because up in our directions we weren't
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00165-00051024-00051485 given any any direction of which way we
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00166-00051486-00051650 want our confidence interval to go so if
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00167-00051651-00051814 we weren't aren't given a direction we
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00168-00051815-00052088 are going to be doing two-tailed and if
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00169-00052089-00052357 we do that we can say that we are 99%
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00170-00052358-00052553 confident that the true proportion of
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00171-00052554-00052700 half sprites who went hunting the season
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00172-00052701-00053153 is somewhere between 0.23 and 0.4 3
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00173-00053154-00053341 which we look up that is exactly what we
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00174-00053342-00053672 got up there now what I will do is I
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00175-00053673-00053924 will invite you to look at these other
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00176-00053925-00054130 three and figure out why are those three
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00177-00054132-00054326 wrong if you need some help you can go
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00178-00054327-00054491 back to the video that talks about how
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00179-00054491-00054740 we can interpret our confidence
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00180-00054741-00054875 intervals and what are some pitfalls
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00181-00054876-00055180 that we sometimes fall into all right
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00182-00055182-00055417 next one down suppose instead we wanted
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00183-00055419-00055606 the confidence that it hold for at least
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00184-00055607-00055867 the true proportion of hunters so this
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00185-00055869-00056240 is a one tailed and we need to go to the
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00186-00056241-00056530 left because we want to be 95% cuff not
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00187-00056532-00056866 90 95 we want to be 99 percent confident
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00188-00056867-00057128 that it's at least some value so some
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00189-00057129-00057505 minimum value or higher okay so if we
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00190-00057507-00058378 want to do for the one tailed it is
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00191-00058379-00058910 exactly the same except one of them is
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00192-00058911-00059294 going to be plus and one of them is
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00193-00059295-00059474 going to be minus and how we calculate
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00194-00059475-00059822 our margin of error is a teeny tiny bit
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00195-00059823-00060151 different what we do is we just don't
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00196-00060152-00060437 divide that alpha by two besides that
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00197-00060438-00060629 it's like exactly the same so let's go
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00198-00060629-00060950 figure out our new z-score so our new Z
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00199-00060951-00061661 that we are interested in is let's go
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00200-00061662-00062009 back to our normal quantiles and let's
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00201-00062010-00062285 multiply that guy by two which gives us
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00202-00062286-00062638 our original alpha we can click OK this
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00203-00062639-00062954 is our new Z have you noticed the new Z
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00204-00062954-00063142 is just a little bit smaller than what
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00205-00063144-00063323 we saw above
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00206-00063324-00063610 but now we are ready to figure out what
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00207-00063611-00063949 is our margin of error so our margin of
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00208-00063950-00064123 error what we're going to do is we're
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00209-00064124-00064898 going to take our new our new T our
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00210-00064899-00065147 sorry our new z-score and we're going to
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00211-00065148-00065372 multiply it by our standard error that
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00212-00065373-00065579 we calculated which is right here our
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00213-00065580-00065893 standard error and if we hit enter we
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00214-00065894-00066363 get this guy as our new margin of error
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00215-00066364-00066862 so this is our new margin of error now
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00216-00066863-00067131 with their Zeen our margin of error oh
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00217-00067132-00067379 sorry with our margin of error we're
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00218-00067380-00067582 ready to just calculate out our new
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00219-00067583-00067744 confidence interval and when we're
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00220-00067745-00068026 wanting to say at least we know that we
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00221-00068027-00068234 want to go down a little bit so we're
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00222-00068235-00068443 going to do our p minus on new margin of
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00223-00068444-00068692 error so let's go grab our P we know
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00224-00068693-00069029 that this is our sample proportion and
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00225-00069030-00069267 we wanna paste it in and we're gonna say
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00226-00069268-00070060 - our new margin of error and we can say
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00227-00070061-00070646 that it's at least like 0.23 and we can
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00228-00070647-00070887 say that's all the way to infinity
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00229-00070888-00071281 that's one be one tailed and we can say
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00230-00071282-00071491 that we are 99% confident that the true
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00231-00071492-00071662 proportion of Castparts when tempting
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00232-00071663-00071976 this season is at least point two four
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00233-00071977-00072328 I'll click on that guy I now suppose we
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00234-00072329-00072503 wanted to know that if we were doing a
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00235-00072504-00072722 confidence interval for no more than the
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00236-00072723-00072896 true proportion of hunters we do the
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00237-00072897-00073201 exact same thing except instead of doing
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00238-00073202-00073778 - we are going to do + and we put this
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00239-00073779-00074188 on the upper end and on the bottom we
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00240-00074189-00074522 put in a negative infinity or you can
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00241-00074523-00074680 just type two O's for that infinity
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00242-00074681-00075028 symbol and once again this is one tailed
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00243-00075029-00075410 I'm just say that we're 95 99 percent
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00244-00075411-00075610 confident the true proportion of CASP
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00245-00075611-00075742 writes who went hunting this season is
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00246-00075743-00076111 no more than point four to go look at
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00247-00076112-00076465 why those other three are incorrect now
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00248-00076466-00076602 typically when we do
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00249-00076603-00076752 we're looking for confidence intervals
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00250-00076753-00076911 we're just looking for one of these
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00251-00076912-00077229 options either upper one tail lower one
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00252-00077230-00077520 tail or a two-tailed but just for
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00253-00077521-00077754 helping us practice I had us look at all
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00254-00077755-00078165 three okay so let's take a second and
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00255-00078166-00078606 let's see how we did with our results if
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00256-00078607-00078828 we look at the results we actually have
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00257-00078829-00079173 some errors in here and it has it
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00258-00079174-00079383 specifically with what happens when we
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00259-00079384-00079623 are dealing with proportions so we were
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00260-00079624-00079824 dealing with proportions we actually we
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00261-00079825-00079962 have to remember that proportions are
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00262-00079963-00080274 limited unlike a means to what their
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00263-00080275-00080481 maximum minimum values can be the
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00264-00080482-00080841 maximum proportion is one and the
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00265-00080842-00081120 minimum proportion is zero so we need to
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00266-00081121-00081294 remember that when we are doing our one
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00267-00081295-00081495 tailed confidence intervals that we use
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00268-00081496-00081906 a one or a zero based upon which
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00269-00081907-00082146 direction that we are going and if we
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00270-00082147-00082362 look at that again we now see that we
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00271-00082363-00082572 have got the correct answers so that's
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00272-00082573-00082716 just important to know that when we are
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00273-00082717-00082890 doing one tailed unlike when we're
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00274-00082891-00083103 dealing with means we can set the
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00275-00083104-00083388 maximum one the minimum at zero on those
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00276-00083389-00083643 confidence intervals okay so now I
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00277-00083644-00083793 showed you how to do it kind of all by
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00278-00083794-00084030 hand let me show you how we can simplify
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00279-00084031-00084417 this whole thing and we can do it with
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00280-00084418-00084762 our software so what we can do instead
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00281-00084763-00085095 is we can go click on our basic
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00282-00085096-00085323 statistics and we can go to statistical
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00283-00085324-00085482 inference ask for a confidence interval
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00284-00085483-00085842 ask for a sample and ask for a interval
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00285-00085843-00086057 on the proportion so what we can do is
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00286-00086058-00086280 we can select on hunted this season and
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00287-00086281-00086466 we want the proportion to be of the
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00288-00086467-00086760 people who said yes and that confidence
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00289-00086761-00087087 interval that we want is 99 and if we
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00290-00087088-00087339 click OK that's going to give us our
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00291-00087340-00087572 confidence interval our two tailed and
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00292-00087573-00087876 if we look we got matching answers right
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00293-00087877-00088272 here so we are good to go now there is a
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00294-00088273-00088517 way that we can make it give us our uh
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00295-00088518-00088974 our one tailed proportions but let's
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00296-00088975-00089196 just go back and I'll show you how so if
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00297-00089197-00089666 we go to our intervals
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00298-00089667-00090026 what we can do is we select select Amba
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00299-00090027-00090198 hunted this season we still collect
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00300-00090199-00090488 select on the yes the problem that we
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00301-00090489-00090660 have is that it doesn't have us give us
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00302-00090661-00090926 an option for the one tail well what we
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00303-00090927-00091304 can do is we can cheat and what we do is
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00304-00091305-00091673 we can double our alpha value so if we
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00305-00091674-00091850 double our alpha value what it will give
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00306-00091851-00092044 us it will give us both the upper and
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00307-00092045-00092498 the lower answer for if we are doing a
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00308-00092499-00092772 one tail upper bound or one tail lower
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00309-00092773-00093011 bound confidence interval so what I did
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00310-00093012-00093210 once again I doubled the alpha so
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00311-00093211-00093350 instead of our confidence level of being
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00312-00093351-00093704 point 99 and our alpha of 0.01 I doubled
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00313-00093705-00094004 alpha to being point o2 and our
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00314-00094005-00094298 confidence level is now 0.98 so I
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00315-00094299-00094778 doubled that alpha and if I click OK
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00316-00094779-00095022 look at our results let's see if we got
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00317-00095023-00095267 the same thing so when we calculated out
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00318-00095268-00095648 our atleast confidence level our
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00319-00095649-00095871 confidence interval we had point two
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00320-00095872-00096129 three eight down here we have point two
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00321-00096130-00096417 three eight that's great and when we had
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00322-00096418-00096666 calculated the no more confidence
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00323-00096667-00097063 interval of we got point oh four two
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00324-00097064-00097355 three seven and we got point four two
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00325-00097356-00097560 three seven here so that's how you can
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00326-00097561-00097769 kind of force our commander to do it for
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00327-00097770-00097974 you so now you've got some options of
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00328-00097975-00098444 how you can do our confidence intervals
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00329-00098445-00098774 for proportions so good luck on this
VfhtQA_0Hm4-00330-00098775-00099054 part of your guide
Vfl6rFonC9o-00000-00002503-00002849 welcome to plenary 5 of the 2022
Vfl6rFonC9o-00001-00002850-00003065 International Conference on sustainable
Vfl6rFonC9o-00002-00003066-00003311 development this panel is science
Vfl6rFonC9o-00003-00003311-00003515 Communications for impact and I'm
Vfl6rFonC9o-00004-00003515-00003695 pleased to turn it over to our moderator
Vfl6rFonC9o-00005-00003696-00003943 Dr Laura helmuth
Vfl6rFonC9o-00006-00003944-00004186 thank you so much and welcome everybody
Vfl6rFonC9o-00007-00004187-00004403 thanks so much for joining us today um
Vfl6rFonC9o-00008-00004404-00004606 from around the world and and welcome to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00009-00004607-00004756 everyone who's joining us in the future
Vfl6rFonC9o-00010-00004757-00004913 who are everybody who's watching the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00011-00004914-00005188 recording uh thank you for your concern
Vfl6rFonC9o-00012-00005189-00005525 for your interest in sdgs uh and in
Vfl6rFonC9o-00013-00005526-00005747 science communication this uh this
Vfl6rFonC9o-00014-00005748-00005897 meeting this whole meeting and this this
Vfl6rFonC9o-00015-00005898-00006083 session as well are part of climate week
Vfl6rFonC9o-00016-00006084-00006377 uh part of New York Global goals week
Vfl6rFonC9o-00017-00006378-00006527 um so we've got a lot of you know great
Vfl6rFonC9o-00018-00006528-00006719 great science to communicate really
Vfl6rFonC9o-00019-00006720-00006959 important things to to uh to work with
Vfl6rFonC9o-00020-00006959-00007133 the public on to to work with each other
Vfl6rFonC9o-00021-00007134-00007234 on
Vfl6rFonC9o-00022-00007236-00007510 um to study to to share and so today
Vfl6rFonC9o-00023-00007511-00007648 we're going to talk about
Vfl6rFonC9o-00024-00007650-00007870 um about how to uh have science
Vfl6rFonC9o-00025-00007872-00008092 communication for impact uh we've got a
Vfl6rFonC9o-00026-00008093-00008327 great panel uh and this this panel comes
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Vfl6rFonC9o-00039-00010811-00010973 of out of that partnership and a white
Vfl6rFonC9o-00040-00010974-00011231 paper that we published together uh in
Vfl6rFonC9o-00041-00011232-00011428 2021 about the world's greatest
Vfl6rFonC9o-00042-00011429-00011627 challenges and some of the challenges
Vfl6rFonC9o-00043-00011628-00011831 have to do with raising awareness of
Vfl6rFonC9o-00044-00011832-00012221 sdgs and in science communication and oh
Vfl6rFonC9o-00045-00012222-00012401 I should say yeah Laura health I'm the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00046-00012402-00012551 editor-in-chief at Scientific American
Vfl6rFonC9o-00047-00012552-00012857 which is part of Springer nature and I'm
Vfl6rFonC9o-00048-00012858-00013066 delighted to to be joined today by three
Vfl6rFonC9o-00049-00013067-00013230 just fantastic
Vfl6rFonC9o-00050-00013231-00013477 activists communicators
Vfl6rFonC9o-00051-00013478-00013751 Advocates uh people who are who are
Vfl6rFonC9o-00052-00013752-00014003 having an impact every day so just to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00053-00014004-00014165 introduce them briefly you can read more
Vfl6rFonC9o-00054-00014166-00014369 about them for in the website for this
Vfl6rFonC9o-00055-00014369-00014555 panel to introduce them briefly um
Vfl6rFonC9o-00056-00014556-00014825 Abigail capronokeema is an energy expert
Vfl6rFonC9o-00057-00014826-00015101 and a climate activist and she is the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00058-00015102-00015336 producer and host of a new podcast
Vfl6rFonC9o-00059-00015337-00015653 profiling act African activists and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00060-00015654-00015988 climate experts leading up to cop27. uh
Vfl6rFonC9o-00061-00015990-00016211 Wolfgang Blau is the co-founder of the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00062-00016212-00016463 Oxford climate journalism Network he's
Vfl6rFonC9o-00063-00016464-00016613 previously worked at Conde Nast
Vfl6rFonC9o-00064-00016614-00016786 companies in Asia Europe and Latin
Vfl6rFonC9o-00065-00016787-00016961 America and he's worked for the guardian
Vfl6rFonC9o-00066-00016962-00017261 and site online and Jason Maitland is
Vfl6rFonC9o-00067-00017262-00017386 currently the president of the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00068-00017387-00017591 sustainability Institute of Trinidad and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00069-00017592-00017830 Tobago whose focus is on transforming
Vfl6rFonC9o-00070-00017831-00018036 societies to achieve balanced social
Vfl6rFonC9o-00071-00018037-00018311 economic and environmental progress so
Vfl6rFonC9o-00072-00018312-00018527 I'm delighted to be able to talk with
Vfl6rFonC9o-00073-00018528-00018730 them today about all things science
Vfl6rFonC9o-00074-00018731-00019019 communication and sdgs and impact and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00075-00019020-00019271 I'd like to to start by just asking each
Vfl6rFonC9o-00076-00019272-00019414 of the three of you to tell us a little
Vfl6rFonC9o-00077-00019415-00019583 bit about the the sorts of science
Vfl6rFonC9o-00078-00019584-00019841 communication you do and Abigail if it's
Vfl6rFonC9o-00079-00019842-00020279 all right can we start with you
Vfl6rFonC9o-00080-00020280-00020489 um great um thank you so much for having
Vfl6rFonC9o-00081-00020490-00020789 me on this panel it's an honor to to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00082-00020790-00021107 speak on this panel um as you have said
Vfl6rFonC9o-00083-00021108-00021341 my name is Abigail and I'm a host and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00084-00021342-00021605 producer for a climate podcast called
Vfl6rFonC9o-00085-00021606-00022043 halea so Hali Hawa in haleah in Swahili
Vfl6rFonC9o-00086-00022044-00022367 is translation for climate and the sole
Vfl6rFonC9o-00087-00022368-00022547 purpose for starting up this podcast was
Vfl6rFonC9o-00088-00022548-00022805 to do storytelling for climate
Vfl6rFonC9o-00089-00022806-00023039 experience for for climate stories
Vfl6rFonC9o-00090-00023040-00023255 within African communities uh
Vfl6rFonC9o-00091-00023256-00023422 spotlighting African activists and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00092-00023423-00023639 experts so the science communication
Vfl6rFonC9o-00093-00023640-00023947 that I do I ideally say climate science
Vfl6rFonC9o-00094-00023948-00024155 communication yes
Vfl6rFonC9o-00095-00024156-00024485 nice oh that's great and what language
Vfl6rFonC9o-00096-00024486-00024677 is your podcast in
Vfl6rFonC9o-00097-00024678-00024880 um it's in English it is in English okay
Vfl6rFonC9o-00098-00024881-00025072 great so anybody can can go anybody
Vfl6rFonC9o-00099-00025073-00025378 who's on the who's who's in the audience
Vfl6rFonC9o-00100-00025379-00025762 um can um Can can listen great yeah
Vfl6rFonC9o-00101-00025763-00026249 Wolfgang would you like to go next
Vfl6rFonC9o-00102-00026250-00026645 oh it looks like you're muted
Vfl6rFonC9o-00103-00026645-00026855 everybody's done always two years later
Vfl6rFonC9o-00104-00026856-00027046 we're still doing it um hello everyone
Vfl6rFonC9o-00105-00027047-00027317 and thank you for having me here with
Vfl6rFonC9o-00106-00027318-00027455 with you all
Vfl6rFonC9o-00107-00027456-00027664 um so my approach to to to science
Vfl6rFonC9o-00108-00027666-00027911 communication is is I work with with
Vfl6rFonC9o-00109-00027912-00028162 journalists and news organizations I've
Vfl6rFonC9o-00110-00028163-00028343 worked in journalism for for many many
Vfl6rFonC9o-00111-00028344-00028583 years and and the question in different
Vfl6rFonC9o-00112-00028583-00028805 leadership roles was always why is so
Vfl6rFonC9o-00113-00028806-00029002 much of our climate journalism not
Vfl6rFonC9o-00114-00029004-00029249 resonating with our readers viewers and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00115-00029250-00029464 listeners as much as we would hope to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00116-00029466-00029789 and from that we came through research
Vfl6rFonC9o-00117-00029789-00029945 and speaking with many experts around
Vfl6rFonC9o-00118-00029945-00030173 the world to the conclusion that to to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00119-00030174-00030401 Really formulate it in the extreme the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00120-00030402-00030593 best climate journalism is that the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00121-00030594-00030749 climate journalism that barely mentions
Vfl6rFonC9o-00122-00030750-00030964 the word climate that doesn't treat it
Vfl6rFonC9o-00123-00030966-00031174 as this vertical topic now let's all
Vfl6rFonC9o-00124-00031175-00031439 talk about science but that weaves the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00125-00031439-00031649 climate Dimension into sports journalism
Vfl6rFonC9o-00126-00031650-00031990 into food journalism architecture you
Vfl6rFonC9o-00127-00031991-00032255 name it so that is my Approach and and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00128-00032256-00032393 that's how I work with news
Vfl6rFonC9o-00129-00032394-00032627 organizations on on what that looks like
Vfl6rFonC9o-00130-00032627-00032837 day to day
Vfl6rFonC9o-00131-00032838-00033035 yeah that's great yeah every story is a
Vfl6rFonC9o-00132-00033036-00033377 climate story yeah yeah love it
Vfl6rFonC9o-00133-00033378-00033496 um Jason would you like to talk about
Vfl6rFonC9o-00134-00033497-00033652 some of your work
Vfl6rFonC9o-00135-00033653-00033917 sure so thank you for having me and you
Vfl6rFonC9o-00136-00033918-00034157 know I'm really privileged to to be part
Vfl6rFonC9o-00137-00034158-00034355 of this session
Vfl6rFonC9o-00138-00034356-00034540 um we looked at the sustainability
Vfl6rFonC9o-00139-00034541-00034840 Institute of Trinidad and to be a good
Vfl6rFonC9o-00140-00034841-00035231 dog we are non-profit organization uh
Vfl6rFonC9o-00141-00035232-00035609 most of our focus in bringing
Vfl6rFonC9o-00142-00035610-00035849 um researchers and and sharing
Vfl6rFonC9o-00143-00035850-00036107 information around climate and Science
Vfl6rFonC9o-00144-00036108-00036521 and so forth has been with industry we
Vfl6rFonC9o-00145-00036522-00036857 have a try when energy industry in
Vfl6rFonC9o-00146-00036858-00037139 Internet Tobago you have to be recognize
Vfl6rFonC9o-00147-00037140-00037535 you need to transition and and you know
Vfl6rFonC9o-00148-00037536-00037709 really be more sustainable and reduce
Vfl6rFonC9o-00149-00037710-00038009 our carbon footprint particularly since
Vfl6rFonC9o-00150-00038010-00038302 we are a small island developing Nation
Vfl6rFonC9o-00151-00038303-00038668 now that work has since I'm transcended
Vfl6rFonC9o-00152-00038669-00038915 from industry
Vfl6rFonC9o-00153-00038916-00039130 um the governmental and non-governmental
Vfl6rFonC9o-00154-00039131-00039479 organization and a lot of the work we do
Vfl6rFonC9o-00155-00039480-00039646 now is actually International
Vfl6rFonC9o-00156-00039647-00039995 nationality through collaborations in
Vfl6rFonC9o-00157-00039996-00040333 the U.S UK and some other countries
Vfl6rFonC9o-00158-00040334-00040645 and that really includes getting
Vfl6rFonC9o-00159-00040646-00041015 students and academics on board and and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00160-00041016-00041267 Brilliant practitioners and researchers
Vfl6rFonC9o-00161-00041268-00041549 together and focus on serving the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00162-00041550-00042035 complex issue around climate change
Vfl6rFonC9o-00163-00042036-00042268 oh that's great and yeah that that kind
Vfl6rFonC9o-00164-00042269-00042562 of leads into my next question is who
Vfl6rFonC9o-00165-00042563-00042755 um you know if you know who your
Vfl6rFonC9o-00166-00042756-00042959 audience is uh so it sounds like for you
Vfl6rFonC9o-00167-00042960-00043421 you have a pretty broad uh range of you
Vfl6rFonC9o-00168-00043422-00043649 know the word stakeholders is is not a
Vfl6rFonC9o-00169-00043650-00043943 great word but I guess groups or special
Vfl6rFonC9o-00170-00043944-00044111 interests or people who just need to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00171-00044112-00044567 understand uh better sdgs and climate in
Vfl6rFonC9o-00172-00044568-00044923 in local options
Vfl6rFonC9o-00173-00044924-00045173 most definitely
Vfl6rFonC9o-00174-00045174-00045557 um I'm privileged right now we we are
Vfl6rFonC9o-00175-00045558-00045701 actually
Vfl6rFonC9o-00176-00045702-00045851 um supporting
Vfl6rFonC9o-00177-00045852-00046187 um the sdg Publishers compact
Vfl6rFonC9o-00178-00046188-00046421 um and their fellow program
Vfl6rFonC9o-00179-00046422-00046690 um a number of great opportunities
Vfl6rFonC9o-00180-00046691-00046943 they're they're doing there
Vfl6rFonC9o-00181-00046944-00047165 um in terms of Publishers and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00182-00047166-00047351 researchers and making information
Vfl6rFonC9o-00183-00047352-00047807 available to to practitioners and you
Vfl6rFonC9o-00184-00047808-00048065 know supporting green jobs initiatives
Vfl6rFonC9o-00185-00048066-00048149 Etc
Vfl6rFonC9o-00186-00048150-00048455 I think the other important
Vfl6rFonC9o-00187-00048456-00048658 work that we're doing and it's something
Vfl6rFonC9o-00188-00048659-00048874 that we we kind of pilot tend to bring
Vfl6rFonC9o-00189-00048875-00049187 to Trinidad and Tobago is working with
Vfl6rFonC9o-00190-00049188-00049523 the American geophysical Union and their
Vfl6rFonC9o-00191-00049524-00049793 thriving youth Exchange program which is
Vfl6rFonC9o-00192-00049794-00050158 really a wrong Community science and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00193-00050159-00050561 empowering communities to solve issues
Vfl6rFonC9o-00194-00050562-00050765 as it relates to mitigation and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00195-00050766-00050968 adaptation
Vfl6rFonC9o-00196-00050969-00051167 oh that's great yeah and for anybody in
Vfl6rFonC9o-00197-00051168-00051316 the audience who's not familiar with it
Vfl6rFonC9o-00198-00051317-00051473 the um the thriving Earth exchange
Vfl6rFonC9o-00199-00051474-00051629 through the American geophysical Union
Vfl6rFonC9o-00200-00051629-00051820 it's a it's a good program to know about
Vfl6rFonC9o-00201-00051821-00052090 and they're eager to partner you know
Vfl6rFonC9o-00202-00052091-00052264 climate scientists
Vfl6rFonC9o-00203-00052265-00052516 um around the world to work on um to you
Vfl6rFonC9o-00204-00052517-00052780 know to help kind of co-create solutions
Vfl6rFonC9o-00205-00052782-00053092 to to environmental issues
Vfl6rFonC9o-00206-00053094-00053291 um that's great that's exciting
Vfl6rFonC9o-00207-00053291-00053525 um and Wolfgang so it sounds like you at
Vfl6rFonC9o-00208-00053526-00053638 the moment you're working more with
Vfl6rFonC9o-00209-00053639-00053866 journalists is that right and and what
Vfl6rFonC9o-00210-00053867-00054035 you know are they
Vfl6rFonC9o-00211-00054036-00054215 um do you have a sense of kind of what
Vfl6rFonC9o-00212-00054216-00054394 audiences you're reaching through the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00213-00054395-00054587 work you're doing
Vfl6rFonC9o-00214-00054588-00054959 we didn't quantify it we work with uh in
Vfl6rFonC9o-00215-00054960-00055157 so the Oxford climate journalism Network
Vfl6rFonC9o-00216-00055158-00055337 that is part of the Reuters Institute
Vfl6rFonC9o-00217-00055338-00055523 for the study of Journalism at Oxford
Vfl6rFonC9o-00218-00055524-00055726 University now has wonderful full-time
Vfl6rFonC9o-00219-00055727-00056015 staff and we always invite applications
Vfl6rFonC9o-00220-00056016-00056200 and then choose a group of 100
Vfl6rFonC9o-00221-00056201-00056471 journalists from as many countries as
Vfl6rFonC9o-00222-00056472-00056657 possible currently I think the current
Vfl6rFonC9o-00223-00056658-00057065 cohort is from 72 countries and then we
Vfl6rFonC9o-00224-00057066-00057365 meet together for somewhere between 20
Vfl6rFonC9o-00225-00057366-00057659 and 30 sessions every other week
Vfl6rFonC9o-00226-00057660-00057904 where we try to help each other build
Vfl6rFonC9o-00227-00057905-00058204 this this basic climate literacy that is
Vfl6rFonC9o-00228-00058205-00058361 about the science of course to begin
Vfl6rFonC9o-00229-00058362-00058594 with that's hugely important to not skip
Vfl6rFonC9o-00230-00058595-00058859 the science part but then also to look
Vfl6rFonC9o-00231-00058860-00059147 at the climate crisis to use that word
Vfl6rFonC9o-00232-00059148-00059375 through different angles as a social
Vfl6rFonC9o-00233-00059376-00059615 justice issue as the geopolitical issue
Vfl6rFonC9o-00234-00059616-00059837 then also very practical questions of
Vfl6rFonC9o-00235-00059838-00060173 how to process data how to work in data
Vfl6rFonC9o-00236-00060174-00060394 visualization or then again other
Vfl6rFonC9o-00237-00060395-00060616 operational issues how to look after the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00238-00060617-00060821 if your Newsroom manager how to look
Vfl6rFonC9o-00239-00060822-00061061 after the mental health of your climate
Vfl6rFonC9o-00240-00061062-00061300 reporter so it's a very broad uh
Vfl6rFonC9o-00241-00061301-00061565 curriculum you could say and it also
Vfl6rFonC9o-00242-00061566-00061882 creates a network where you know if you
Vfl6rFonC9o-00243-00061883-00062129 are from a wealthy North American or
Vfl6rFonC9o-00244-00062129-00062459 northern European news organization
Vfl6rFonC9o-00245-00062460-00062644 um it's this learned behavior to send a
Vfl6rFonC9o-00246-00062645-00062807 reporter into one of those countries
Vfl6rFonC9o-00247-00062808-00062944 that are already much harder hit by
Vfl6rFonC9o-00248-00062945-00063076 climate change
Vfl6rFonC9o-00249-00063077-00063359 and that already is a filtered view of
Vfl6rFonC9o-00250-00063360-00063557 what comes back it gets filtered by who
Vfl6rFonC9o-00251-00063558-00063785 you pick to go there it then gets
Vfl6rFonC9o-00252-00063786-00063959 re-translated to your own typically
Vfl6rFonC9o-00253-00063960-00064194 National audience but in this network
Vfl6rFonC9o-00254-00064195-00064409 all these colleagues from so many
Vfl6rFonC9o-00255-00064410-00064619 different regions around the world hear
Vfl6rFonC9o-00256-00064620-00064835 each other talk about how climate change
Vfl6rFonC9o-00257-00064836-00065032 is affecting their country today and it
Vfl6rFonC9o-00258-00065033-00065332 creates a very different awareness of
Vfl6rFonC9o-00259-00065333-00065530 what is going on
Vfl6rFonC9o-00260-00065532-00065741 um Laura I also have a question to our
Vfl6rFonC9o-00261-00065742-00065975 group if you don't mind a very practical
Vfl6rFonC9o-00262-00065976-00066299 question and that is what I'm struggling
Vfl6rFonC9o-00263-00066300-00066569 with is we want to convey basic climate
Vfl6rFonC9o-00264-00066570-00066671 literacy
Vfl6rFonC9o-00265-00066672-00066947 and what I mean by that is in a typical
Vfl6rFonC9o-00266-00066948-00067276 news organization of a newspaper there
Vfl6rFonC9o-00267-00067277-00067535 is this understanding of what a general
Vfl6rFonC9o-00268-00067536-00067811 education should look like and as an
Vfl6rFonC9o-00269-00067812-00067997 example you would expect from a sports
Vfl6rFonC9o-00270-00067998-00068326 editor that she or he knows the basics
Vfl6rFonC9o-00271-00068327-00068603 of their country's election system or
Vfl6rFonC9o-00272-00068604-00068819 knows the most important
Vfl6rFonC9o-00273-00068820-00069059 writer of that country if that right is
Vfl6rFonC9o-00274-00069060-00069250 part of the National Heritage yet even
Vfl6rFonC9o-00275-00069251-00069473 the most basic knowledge about climate
Vfl6rFonC9o-00276-00069474-00069635 change is still considered expert
Vfl6rFonC9o-00277-00069636-00069749 knowledge
Vfl6rFonC9o-00278-00069750-00069982 I mean the most basic such as how does
Vfl6rFonC9o-00279-00069983-00070294 the natural greenhouse effect work on
Vfl6rFonC9o-00280-00070295-00070517 Earth or what are the two main
Vfl6rFonC9o-00281-00070518-00070744 greenhouse gases that cause an
Vfl6rFonC9o-00282-00070745-00070949 acceleration of climate change
Vfl6rFonC9o-00283-00070950-00071231 um and and so we're we're wrestling with
Vfl6rFonC9o-00284-00071232-00071447 this definition of what could that basic
Vfl6rFonC9o-00285-00071448-00071638 literacy look like that we should expect
Vfl6rFonC9o-00286-00071639-00071813 and where does the expert knowledge
Vfl6rFonC9o-00287-00071814-00071915 begin
Vfl6rFonC9o-00288-00071916-00072203 and I'm just curious to hear opinions
Vfl6rFonC9o-00289-00072204-00072863 on that
Vfl6rFonC9o-00290-00072864-00073091 so is it is it for instance should
Vfl6rFonC9o-00291-00073092-00073343 should we expect from each other to be
Vfl6rFonC9o-00292-00073344-00073529 able to explain the difference between
Vfl6rFonC9o-00293-00073530-00073829 the effects of methane and CO2
Vfl6rFonC9o-00294-00073830-00074087 or is that already too Specialized or
Vfl6rFonC9o-00295-00074088-00074243 should that be general public knowledge
Vfl6rFonC9o-00296-00074244-00074465 just like we know that a football team
Vfl6rFonC9o-00297-00074466-00074711 has 11 players
Vfl6rFonC9o-00298-00074712-00074897 wait I wish it were general knowledge
Vfl6rFonC9o-00299-00074898-00075106 and I'm sure you know it depends on what
Vfl6rFonC9o-00300-00075107-00075244 kind of audience you're trying to reach
Vfl6rFonC9o-00301-00075245-00075419 but I think
Vfl6rFonC9o-00302-00075420-00075569 um
Vfl6rFonC9o-00303-00075570-00075856 yeah in in my opinion we should never
Vfl6rFonC9o-00304-00075857-00076061 assume too much knowledge
Vfl6rFonC9o-00305-00076062-00076187 um I agree
Vfl6rFonC9o-00306-00076188-00076421 I agree with Don I mean even when I hear
Vfl6rFonC9o-00307-00076422-00076644 the word sdg I think
Vfl6rFonC9o-00308-00076645-00077003 we shouldn't right right yeah I mean
Vfl6rFonC9o-00309-00077004-00077188 talking of you know among ourselves in
Vfl6rFonC9o-00310-00077189-00077411 in an audience yeah that's really
Vfl6rFonC9o-00311-00077412-00077615 interested it makes sense but uh but
Vfl6rFonC9o-00312-00077616-00077831 yeah I agree and I think that's part of
Vfl6rFonC9o-00313-00077832-00078017 the the mission too is to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00314-00078018-00078299 use the sdgs in a way that that you know
Vfl6rFonC9o-00315-00078300-00078485 makes every story an sdg story just like
Vfl6rFonC9o-00316-00078486-00078791 every story is a climate story yeah
Vfl6rFonC9o-00317-00078792-00078965 yeah that's a good question yeah it's
Vfl6rFonC9o-00318-00078966-00079097 something I think we need to be thinking
Vfl6rFonC9o-00319-00079098-00079276 about all the time
Vfl6rFonC9o-00320-00079277-00079505 um and Abigail when you're um so for
Vfl6rFonC9o-00321-00079506-00079609 your podcast
Vfl6rFonC9o-00322-00079610-00079931 who you know who do you think of is your
Vfl6rFonC9o-00323-00079932-00080153 audience and you must have to have to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00324-00080154-00080279 think about that all the time like what
Vfl6rFonC9o-00325-00080280-00080549 level of specificity do you get into how
Vfl6rFonC9o-00326-00080550-00080765 do you explain the science what um what
Vfl6rFonC9o-00327-00080766-00080897 background do you think people have who
Vfl6rFonC9o-00328-00080898-00081262 are listening to you
Vfl6rFonC9o-00329-00081263-00081509 um so I guess it would be important for
Vfl6rFonC9o-00330-00081510-00081826 me to like go back to how this all
Vfl6rFonC9o-00331-00081827-00082217 started so as a young activist and a
Vfl6rFonC9o-00332-00082218-00082541 young person from Kenya specifically
Vfl6rFonC9o-00333-00082542-00082876 um Corp 26 was my first ever climate
Vfl6rFonC9o-00334-00082877-00083129 conference uh to be physically present
Vfl6rFonC9o-00335-00083130-00083326 at and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00336-00083327-00083615 going with a swimming Society but you
Vfl6rFonC9o-00337-00083616-00083806 obviously don't have access to a lot of
Vfl6rFonC9o-00338-00083807-00083969 those meetings and a lot of those
Vfl6rFonC9o-00339-00083970-00084112 conversations especially the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00340-00084113-00084376 negotiations so I remember feeling a bit
Vfl6rFonC9o-00341-00084377-00084605 lost and not knowing exactly what to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00342-00084606-00084719 know
Vfl6rFonC9o-00343-00084720-00084959 um I had read a paper called a
Vfl6rFonC9o-00344-00084960-00085150 five-point plan that was prepared by the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00345-00085151-00085397 organization I used to work for them and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00346-00085398-00085631 I knew what to look out for but then it
Vfl6rFonC9o-00347-00085632-00085949 wasn't very clear and at that time I
Vfl6rFonC9o-00348-00085950-00086200 remember sharing what was happening on
Vfl6rFonC9o-00349-00086201-00086417 my Instagram to just random people like
Vfl6rFonC9o-00350-00086418-00086729 baby don't have a big following and I
Vfl6rFonC9o-00351-00086730-00086962 remember people were actually interested
Vfl6rFonC9o-00352-00086963-00087125 especially from where I come from and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00353-00087126-00087323 understanding that I come I come from a
Vfl6rFonC9o-00354-00087324-00087719 community of farmers so I something that
Vfl6rFonC9o-00355-00087720-00087935 she related with them or something that
Vfl6rFonC9o-00356-00087936-00088205 they could relate to was uh you know
Vfl6rFonC9o-00357-00088206-00088397 explaining the impacts of climate change
Vfl6rFonC9o-00358-00088398-00088673 with with its relation to Agriculture
Vfl6rFonC9o-00359-00088674-00088847 and so
Vfl6rFonC9o-00360-00088848-00089044 after doing that I realized there was
Vfl6rFonC9o-00361-00089045-00089182 real hunger for information and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00362-00089183-00089356 understanding why do we need to meet
Vfl6rFonC9o-00363-00089357-00089621 every once in a year to negotiate or
Vfl6rFonC9o-00364-00089622-00089782 have conversations about climate change
Vfl6rFonC9o-00365-00089783-00090011 and so on coming back home I thought of
Vfl6rFonC9o-00366-00090012-00090215 doing something that would would
Vfl6rFonC9o-00367-00090216-00090443 something bigger that would have more
Vfl6rFonC9o-00368-00090444-00090659 reach and more audience and that's why I
Vfl6rFonC9o-00369-00090660-00090923 settled for a podcast so for the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00370-00090924-00091168 specific audience uh number one my
Vfl6rFonC9o-00371-00091169-00091426 biggest issue was just the basic
Vfl6rFonC9o-00372-00091427-00091732 knowledge that was thinking about uh
Vfl6rFonC9o-00373-00091733-00091943 just sharing that information in a way
Vfl6rFonC9o-00374-00091944-00092117 that members of the community can
Vfl6rFonC9o-00375-00092118-00092387 understand and can relate to uh to their
Vfl6rFonC9o-00376-00092388-00092711 day-to-day lives and then secondly uh
Vfl6rFonC9o-00377-00092712-00092950 being that the cope that is happening
Vfl6rFonC9o-00378-00092951-00093125 this year specifically happening in
Vfl6rFonC9o-00379-00093126-00093382 Africa in Egypt to be precise and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00380-00093383-00093538 everyone is calling it an African Cup
Vfl6rFonC9o-00381-00093539-00093826 but we all have the feeling of we can't
Vfl6rFonC9o-00382-00093827-00094079 really call it an African Cup if our
Vfl6rFonC9o-00383-00094080-00094325 priorities and our issues are not well
Vfl6rFonC9o-00384-00094326-00094661 articulated so what what happened is um
Vfl6rFonC9o-00385-00094662-00094900 the podcast is organized in in three
Vfl6rFonC9o-00386-00094901-00095176 segments so the first segment is where
Vfl6rFonC9o-00387-00095177-00095435 an activist or an expert really gets to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00388-00095436-00095615 speak about their personal journey and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00389-00095616-00095855 what motivated them to do that and when
Vfl6rFonC9o-00390-00095856-00096017 you listen to them you realize everyone
Vfl6rFonC9o-00391-00096018-00096191 has some sort of
Vfl6rFonC9o-00392-00096192-00096515 connection to Nature or something they
Vfl6rFonC9o-00393-00096516-00096731 either witnessed the impacts of climate
Vfl6rFonC9o-00394-00096732-00096953 change firsthand or they saw it
Vfl6rFonC9o-00395-00096954-00097175 happening somewhere and they felt they
Vfl6rFonC9o-00396-00097176-00097403 need to do something about it and then
Vfl6rFonC9o-00397-00097404-00097582 after the introduction is when I will
Vfl6rFonC9o-00398-00097583-00097750 talk about various topics such as loss
Vfl6rFonC9o-00399-00097751-00097853 and damage
Vfl6rFonC9o-00400-00097854-00098171 um fossil fuels etc etc and then now the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00401-00098172-00098476 last part we we get the experts the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00402-00098477-00098662 activists to say what their call to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00403-00098663-00098926 action is for cop27 so you see for the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00404-00098927-00099143 first segment of the second segment it
Vfl6rFonC9o-00405-00099144-00099418 is general information that say people
Vfl6rFonC9o-00406-00099419-00099676 in the same Urban or urban areas who
Vfl6rFonC9o-00407-00099677-00099868 have access to the internet can listen
Vfl6rFonC9o-00408-00099869-00100055 so these are people in businesses these
Vfl6rFonC9o-00409-00100056-00100253 are people in civil societies who can
Vfl6rFonC9o-00410-00100254-00100547 actually use this information as as
Vfl6rFonC9o-00411-00100548-00100799 advocacy tools and then the last segment
Vfl6rFonC9o-00412-00100800-00101056 now targets the policy makers in this
Vfl6rFonC9o-00413-00101057-00101297 space being that um
Vfl6rFonC9o-00414-00101298-00101597 with the posting and the the climate
Vfl6rFonC9o-00415-00101598-00101885 home use is a partner that helps to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00416-00101886-00102094 educate these episodes and this means it
Vfl6rFonC9o-00417-00102095-00102293 gets to the policy makers and it gets to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00418-00102294-00102628 the climate community so as Abigail as
Vfl6rFonC9o-00419-00102629-00102827 an activist by myself I'm able to reach
Vfl6rFonC9o-00420-00102828-00103204 the normal person and then this uh the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00421-00103205-00103390 partner that helps to Syndicate this
Vfl6rFonC9o-00422-00103391-00103697 episode now gets to the policy makers
Vfl6rFonC9o-00423-00103698-00103889 and the climate community so I'd say
Vfl6rFonC9o-00424-00103890-00104356 that's sort of how I I I do my thing and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00425-00104357-00104518 then with regards to the question that
Vfl6rFonC9o-00426-00104519-00104986 was then asked I think um when we speak
Vfl6rFonC9o-00427-00104988-00105323 about climate change and and say climate
Vfl6rFonC9o-00428-00105324-00105521 science a lot of times we use numbers
Vfl6rFonC9o-00429-00105522-00105725 and statistics which are kind of
Vfl6rFonC9o-00430-00105726-00105910 difficult for a normal person to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00431-00105911-00106127 understand and relate to so I thought
Vfl6rFonC9o-00432-00106128-00106366 why not do something on storytelling
Vfl6rFonC9o-00433-00106367-00106577 that will allow me to actually go to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00434-00106578-00106739 communities and hear their stories
Vfl6rFonC9o-00435-00106740-00106954 because I come from a place where we're
Vfl6rFonC9o-00436-00106955-00107278 already vulnerable and we are have a
Vfl6rFonC9o-00437-00107279-00107465 hardest hit by the impacts of climate
Vfl6rFonC9o-00438-00107466-00107693 change yet the contribution is also very
Vfl6rFonC9o-00439-00107694-00107927 little so helping them understand that
Vfl6rFonC9o-00440-00107928-00108095 hey this is actually happening to you
Vfl6rFonC9o-00441-00108096-00108275 and this is because of climate change
Vfl6rFonC9o-00442-00108276-00108586 and um earlier earlier on this year was
Vfl6rFonC9o-00443-00108588-00108790 really bad drought in the northern part
Vfl6rFonC9o-00444-00108791-00108977 of Kenya it's still going on and I
Vfl6rFonC9o-00445-00108978-00109283 remember in one of the mainstream media
Vfl6rFonC9o-00446-00109283-00109577 interviews a Community member uh said
Vfl6rFonC9o-00447-00109578-00109769 that the drought that is happening to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00448-00109770-00109919 them is a curse
Vfl6rFonC9o-00449-00109920-00110128 which means they're actually feeling the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00450-00110129-00110284 impacts of climate change but they do
Vfl6rFonC9o-00451-00110285-00110519 not know that this is actually climate
Vfl6rFonC9o-00452-00110520-00110663 change and science can actually explain
Vfl6rFonC9o-00453-00110664-00110897 it but they really going into
Vfl6rFonC9o-00454-00110898-00111149 communities and understanding that this
Vfl6rFonC9o-00455-00111150-00111313 community specifically practice
Vfl6rFonC9o-00456-00111314-00111683 fashionism so how about create stories
Vfl6rFonC9o-00457-00111683-00111893 or speak to them in a way that they can
Vfl6rFonC9o-00458-00111894-00112102 relate and understand or animals are
Vfl6rFonC9o-00459-00112103-00112295 dying because you know the drought has
Vfl6rFonC9o-00460-00112296-00112457 become more frequent than it used to be
Vfl6rFonC9o-00461-00112458-00112619 and then when I go to a place where
Vfl6rFonC9o-00462-00112620-00112823 there's agriculture I'll be like
Vfl6rFonC9o-00463-00112824-00112978 um the weather patterns have changed you
Vfl6rFonC9o-00464-00112979-00113266 can no longer plant in February as you
Vfl6rFonC9o-00465-00113267-00113536 used to now the rains are quite uh
Vfl6rFonC9o-00466-00113538-00113681 you're not too sure when it's going to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00467-00113682-00114004 come so I'd say that she's basically
Vfl6rFonC9o-00468-00114005-00114166 understanding your audience and sort of
Vfl6rFonC9o-00469-00114167-00114352 focusing on something that is more
Vfl6rFonC9o-00470-00114353-00114527 relatable to the community
Vfl6rFonC9o-00471-00114528-00114725 yeah that's great that's and that's
Vfl6rFonC9o-00472-00114726-00114958 excellent advice for anybody who's in in
Vfl6rFonC9o-00473-00114959-00115133 science communication like some of the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00474-00115133-00115360 the strategies you're using the you know
Vfl6rFonC9o-00475-00115361-00115534 the personal Journeys the call to action
Vfl6rFonC9o-00476-00115535-00115775 the helping people understand what's
Vfl6rFonC9o-00477-00115776-00115925 happening in in terms of their own
Vfl6rFonC9o-00478-00115926-00116069 experience
Vfl6rFonC9o-00479-00116070-00116273 um those are really powerful methods
Vfl6rFonC9o-00480-00116274-00116560 and I know um in the audience a lot of
Vfl6rFonC9o-00481-00116561-00116716 people who are joining us our early
Vfl6rFonC9o-00482-00116717-00116836 career
Vfl6rFonC9o-00483-00116838-00117173 um some might be um on a path to a
Vfl6rFonC9o-00484-00117174-00117316 science communication career of some
Vfl6rFonC9o-00485-00117317-00117647 sort or or have it be part of their job
Vfl6rFonC9o-00486-00117648-00117947 um so that's uh that's fantastic for for
Vfl6rFonC9o-00487-00117948-00118210 them to to hear about how you know these
Vfl6rFonC9o-00488-00118211-00118421 are things that that you know you can
Vfl6rFonC9o-00489-00118422-00118666 use effectively to make your you make
Vfl6rFonC9o-00490-00118667-00118804 your stories make your podcasts your
Vfl6rFonC9o-00491-00118805-00119033 articles your news coverage be more
Vfl6rFonC9o-00492-00119033-00119260 impactful and and memorable and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00493-00119261-00119651 effective
Vfl6rFonC9o-00494-00119652-00119771 blue
Vfl6rFonC9o-00495-00119772-00120084 that's great oh and we have well
Vfl6rFonC9o-00496-00120085-00120401 so please anybody you're welcome to to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00497-00120402-00120599 um add questions we have one um for one
Vfl6rFonC9o-00498-00120600-00120743 of the uh one of the one of our
Vfl6rFonC9o-00499-00120744-00120910 colleagues at Springer nature who helped
Vfl6rFonC9o-00500-00120911-00121151 organize this event and uh he has a
Vfl6rFonC9o-00501-00121152-00121325 question for Abigail about
Vfl6rFonC9o-00502-00121326-00121516 um do you have like a do you keep kind
Vfl6rFonC9o-00503-00121517-00121804 of a list of of you know phrases that
Vfl6rFonC9o-00504-00121805-00122093 are helpful or metaphors or
Vfl6rFonC9o-00505-00122094-00122213 um you know there are there ways of
Vfl6rFonC9o-00506-00122214-00122369 explaining things that you find have
Vfl6rFonC9o-00507-00122370-00122584 really resonate with people if you if
Vfl6rFonC9o-00508-00122585-00122854 you use a a certain certain type of
Vfl6rFonC9o-00509-00122855-00123395 language
Vfl6rFonC9o-00510-00123396-00123725 um I'd say yes and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00511-00123726-00124001 yes because number one uh when you
Vfl6rFonC9o-00512-00124002-00124271 notice the title of the podcast is
Vfl6rFonC9o-00513-00124272-00124565 actually Swahili so immediately someone
Vfl6rFonC9o-00514-00124566-00124852 sees the title of the podcast they
Vfl6rFonC9o-00515-00124853-00124997 immediately understand oh this is
Vfl6rFonC9o-00516-00124998-00125189 something to do with the environment or
Vfl6rFonC9o-00517-00125190-00125434 the weather or something so that that is
Vfl6rFonC9o-00518-00125435-00125651 one thing I used that was catchy and I
Vfl6rFonC9o-00519-00125652-00125825 understand maybe for the audience that
Vfl6rFonC9o-00520-00125826-00126071 is not for countries that don't speak
Vfl6rFonC9o-00521-00126072-00126304 Swahili may not entirely relate to that
Vfl6rFonC9o-00522-00126305-00126604 but at that time my focus was more on my
Vfl6rFonC9o-00523-00126605-00126815 community coming from Kenya and I know a
Vfl6rFonC9o-00524-00126816-00127078 number of of African countries speak
Vfl6rFonC9o-00525-00127079-00127313 Swahili as well so that is one thing
Vfl6rFonC9o-00526-00127314-00127565 that I use to make sure that I catch the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00527-00127566-00127978 audience and then secondly on phrases
Vfl6rFonC9o-00528-00127979-00128245 um I noticed the more you repeat certain
Vfl6rFonC9o-00529-00128246-00128543 uh certain phrases for example making
Vfl6rFonC9o-00530-00128544-00128710 them understand that Africa has only
Vfl6rFonC9o-00531-00128711-00128963 contributed about four percent to the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00532-00128964-00129190 global emissions people kinda get it
Vfl6rFonC9o-00533-00129191-00129419 because you keep repeating it and making
Vfl6rFonC9o-00534-00129420-00129634 them understand exactly why they're
Vfl6rFonC9o-00535-00129635-00129821 called vulnerable communities exactly
Vfl6rFonC9o-00536-00129822-00130073 why they're more susceptible to the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00537-00130074-00130313 impact of climate change and why it's
Vfl6rFonC9o-00538-00130314-00130516 very hard for us to you know snap back
Vfl6rFonC9o-00539-00130517-00130601 from
Vfl6rFonC9o-00540-00130602-00130799 say climate disaster such as the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00541-00130800-00131075 Cyclones Etc
Vfl6rFonC9o-00542-00131076-00131369 I have a specific cash rate for now but
Vfl6rFonC9o-00543-00131370-00131614 I'd say the title of the podcast and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00544-00131615-00131849 then the repetitive nature of of
Vfl6rFonC9o-00545-00131850-00132023 understanding
Vfl6rFonC9o-00546-00132024-00132209 climate change from an African context
Vfl6rFonC9o-00547-00132210-00132502 has really helped yeah that's great yeah
Vfl6rFonC9o-00548-00132503-00132616 and of course you know as science
Vfl6rFonC9o-00549-00132617-00132749 communicators we all need to think about
Vfl6rFonC9o-00550-00132750-00133049 phrases that don't work
Vfl6rFonC9o-00551-00133050-00133211 um and that's so calm you know jargon
Vfl6rFonC9o-00552-00133212-00133385 that people don't understand acronyms
Vfl6rFonC9o-00553-00133386-00133577 that make people feel excluded from a
Vfl6rFonC9o-00554-00133578-00133702 story
Vfl6rFonC9o-00555-00133703-00133889 um we we have a story coming up in
Vfl6rFonC9o-00556-00133890-00134099 Scientific American by a science
Vfl6rFonC9o-00557-00134100-00134339 Communicator named Susan Joy Hassell and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00558-00134340-00134578 she keeps a list of all the things that
Vfl6rFonC9o-00559-00134579-00134764 um that climate scientists say that we
Vfl6rFonC9o-00560-00134765-00134927 think mean one thing and it actually
Vfl6rFonC9o-00561-00134928-00135059 means something else and my favorite
Vfl6rFonC9o-00562-00135060-00135389 example is positive feedback loops
Vfl6rFonC9o-00563-00135390-00135569 um because you know if you think about
Vfl6rFonC9o-00564-00135570-00135766 psychology positive feedback that sounds
Vfl6rFonC9o-00565-00135767-00135964 great you know you want to get positive
Vfl6rFonC9o-00566-00135965-00136204 feedback basically just means praise
Vfl6rFonC9o-00567-00136205-00136378 um and nobody your your first
Vfl6rFonC9o-00568-00136379-00136583 Association is not you know melting
Vfl6rFonC9o-00569-00136584-00136840 permafrost which then uh changes the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00570-00136841-00137045 Albedo of of the you know Northern
Vfl6rFonC9o-00571-00137046-00137309 climates and uh anyhow so it's fun to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00572-00137310-00137411 think about that question in both
Vfl6rFonC9o-00573-00137412-00137573 directions like what words work and what
Vfl6rFonC9o-00574-00137574-00137795 words don't work Laura my favorite
Vfl6rFonC9o-00575-00137796-00137975 example of what doesn't work is to speak
Vfl6rFonC9o-00576-00137976-00138263 of the 1 0.5 degree goal in countries
Vfl6rFonC9o-00577-00138264-00138413 that measure temperature in fahrenheit
Vfl6rFonC9o-00578-00138414-00138628 yeah yeah
Vfl6rFonC9o-00579-00138629-00138833 that's a good one we're still doing it
Vfl6rFonC9o-00580-00138834-00138952 yeah
Vfl6rFonC9o-00581-00138953-00139139 yeah but you know in interest in me
Vfl6rFonC9o-00582-00139140-00139349 enough if you come to the Caribbean and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00583-00139350-00139571 you say 1.5 degrees to stay alive
Vfl6rFonC9o-00584-00139572-00139769 everyone knows what you're talking about
Vfl6rFonC9o-00585-00139770-00140128 right because it's it's real to them so
Vfl6rFonC9o-00586-00140129-00140345 I think the point that wood will run and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00587-00140346-00140687 Abigail is making is that you know wild
Vfl6rFonC9o-00588-00140688-00140983 things may we may use some terminology
Vfl6rFonC9o-00589-00140984-00141449 it relates to folks differently and you
Vfl6rFonC9o-00590-00141450-00141713 know as communicators we really have to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00591-00141714-00142013 know our audience and and what works for
Vfl6rFonC9o-00592-00142014-00142397 them and I'm reminded
Vfl6rFonC9o-00593-00142398-00142678 um by a community that that I'm
Vfl6rFonC9o-00594-00142679-00142973 supporting right now where
Vfl6rFonC9o-00595-00142974-00143101 um they've done the same thing around
Vfl6rFonC9o-00596-00143102-00143399 storytelling around some sustainable
Vfl6rFonC9o-00597-00143400-00143639 development goals and they were
Vfl6rFonC9o-00598-00143640-00143801 surprised that
Vfl6rFonC9o-00599-00143802-00144035 even though
Vfl6rFonC9o-00600-00144036-00144335 um you know there's 17 goals right most
Vfl6rFonC9o-00601-00144336-00144683 people could only relate to one or two
Vfl6rFonC9o-00602-00144684-00144952 in terms of what they do on a daily
Vfl6rFonC9o-00603-00144953-00145439 basis so I think that shows the the the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00604-00145440-00145702 challenge that's in front of of all of
Vfl6rFonC9o-00605-00145703-00145985 us right in in terms of really building
Vfl6rFonC9o-00606-00145986-00146387 that awareness and relatedness more
Vfl6rFonC9o-00607-00146388-00146801 importantly right
Vfl6rFonC9o-00608-00146802-00147095 yeah that's great and and so speaking of
Vfl6rFonC9o-00609-00147096-00147269 sdgs
Vfl6rFonC9o-00610-00147270-00147527 um has it been helpful in your work
Vfl6rFonC9o-00611-00147528-00147593 um
Vfl6rFonC9o-00612-00147594-00148099 to relate uh you know specific issues to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00613-00148100-00148361 sdg for sustainable development goals
Vfl6rFonC9o-00614-00148362-00148535 sdgs
Vfl6rFonC9o-00615-00148536-00148697 um you know do you have any advice
Vfl6rFonC9o-00616-00148698-00148828 especially for people in the audience
Vfl6rFonC9o-00617-00148829-00149027 about how you can kind of make use of
Vfl6rFonC9o-00618-00149028-00149213 this you know this to-do list for the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00619-00149214-00149447 planet of sustainable development goals
Vfl6rFonC9o-00620-00149448-00149716 any uh you know any ways that you think
Vfl6rFonC9o-00621-00149717-00150028 we can use them you know more or more
Vfl6rFonC9o-00622-00150029-00150299 effectively to uh to to help communicate
Vfl6rFonC9o-00623-00150300-00150449 science
Vfl6rFonC9o-00624-00150450-00150647 I mean it's a it's a great question
Vfl6rFonC9o-00625-00150648-00150869 right so
Vfl6rFonC9o-00626-00150870-00151139 um is it still development goals is
Vfl6rFonC9o-00627-00151140-00151378 really a good framework
Vfl6rFonC9o-00628-00151379-00151678 um what we have found is that I I know
Vfl6rFonC9o-00629-00151679-00151852 many people know this there are a number
Vfl6rFonC9o-00630-00151853-00152254 of those goals that overlap so in our
Vfl6rFonC9o-00631-00152255-00152578 communication we tend to put them in
Vfl6rFonC9o-00632-00152579-00152837 buckets and then deal with these smaller
Vfl6rFonC9o-00633-00152838-00153137 buckets so you're happy the usual triple
Vfl6rFonC9o-00634-00153138-00153335 P approach
Vfl6rFonC9o-00635-00153336-00153581 um people planning profit
Vfl6rFonC9o-00636-00153582-00153869 um that folks could relate to because of
Vfl6rFonC9o-00637-00153870-00154175 course there's more
Vfl6rFonC9o-00638-00154176-00154409 um interdependency that
Vfl6rFonC9o-00639-00154410-00154678 that's clearly communicated in in those
Vfl6rFonC9o-00640-00154679-00155002 areas I think the the other thing for us
Vfl6rFonC9o-00641-00155003-00155525 around the the sdgs is really connecting
Vfl6rFonC9o-00642-00155526-00155981 what people are experiencing to what has
Vfl6rFonC9o-00643-00155982-00156323 changed without necessarily using the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00644-00156324-00156628 terminologies because I think when you
Vfl6rFonC9o-00645-00156629-00157037 do that people are more able to connect
Vfl6rFonC9o-00646-00157038-00157421 to it the more able to then tell others
Vfl6rFonC9o-00647-00157422-00157666 about it and then your communication
Vfl6rFonC9o-00648-00157667-00158166 strategy becomes simpler happens
Vfl6rFonC9o-00649-00158167-00158423 I think in in addition to what what
Vfl6rFonC9o-00650-00158424-00158645 Jason just said and I agree with all of
Vfl6rFonC9o-00651-00158646-00158728 that
Vfl6rFonC9o-00652-00158729-00158831 um
Vfl6rFonC9o-00653-00158832-00159125 not all of the sdgs but specifically
Vfl6rFonC9o-00654-00159126-00159376 climate change when you speak about that
Vfl6rFonC9o-00655-00159377-00159719 can trigger a lot of fear yeah or a
Vfl6rFonC9o-00656-00159720-00159952 sense of helplessness of disempowerment
Vfl6rFonC9o-00657-00159953-00160264 of of being overwhelmed
Vfl6rFonC9o-00658-00160265-00160469 um and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00659-00160470-00160685 there there are several approaches one
Vfl6rFonC9o-00660-00160686-00160978 is is called solution Centric
Vfl6rFonC9o-00661-00160979-00161147 um not only in journalism Solutions
Vfl6rFonC9o-00662-00161148-00161314 journalism there's also a solution
Vfl6rFonC9o-00663-00161315-00161657 Cinema movement I.E to not present the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00664-00161658-00161866 issue as an abstract issue but to start
Vfl6rFonC9o-00665-00161867-00162154 with yes mentioning the challenge but
Vfl6rFonC9o-00666-00162155-00162431 then to feature solutions that are
Vfl6rFonC9o-00667-00162432-00162647 plausible and credible there's quite
Vfl6rFonC9o-00668-00162648-00162857 some pushback against it in journalistic
Vfl6rFonC9o-00669-00162858-00163054 circles where then journalists say well
Vfl6rFonC9o-00670-00163055-00163319 so you ask us to sugarcoat reality and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00671-00163320-00163576 to present the situation sweeter than it
Vfl6rFonC9o-00672-00163577-00163763 is or to show solutions that haven't
Vfl6rFonC9o-00673-00163764-00164063 proven themselves yet none of that is
Vfl6rFonC9o-00674-00164064-00164314 intended by people who who suggest to be
Vfl6rFonC9o-00675-00164315-00164476 more solution-centric but it's very
Vfl6rFonC9o-00676-00164477-00164609 similar to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00677-00164610-00164939 how you how you motivate yourself
Vfl6rFonC9o-00678-00164940-00165173 you know when you need to change your
Vfl6rFonC9o-00679-00165174-00165340 lifestyle or something that is really
Vfl6rFonC9o-00680-00165341-00165539 difficult you look at the why and what
Vfl6rFonC9o-00681-00165540-00165976 you get from it another approach it goes
Vfl6rFonC9o-00682-00165977-00166133 farther and I find this even more
Vfl6rFonC9o-00683-00166134-00166325 helpful that comes someone who's working
Vfl6rFonC9o-00684-00166326-00166547 on that is Kristin mayor a
Vfl6rFonC9o-00685-00166548-00166757 neuroscientist at King's College in the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00686-00166758-00167045 UK and he is also working with us in the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00687-00167046-00167219 Oxford climate journalism Network where
Vfl6rFonC9o-00688-00167220-00167359 he says
Vfl6rFonC9o-00689-00167360-00167585 especially journalists but I think the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00690-00167586-00167752 same is true also for many science
Vfl6rFonC9o-00691-00167753-00168131 communicators rely on facts and figures
Vfl6rFonC9o-00692-00168132-00168359 and charts and statistics and it's
Vfl6rFonC9o-00693-00168360-00168557 proven and it's peer-reviewed and it has
Vfl6rFonC9o-00694-00168558-00168671 been published in this credible
Vfl6rFonC9o-00695-00168672-00169019 publication and can't you see and yes
Vfl6rFonC9o-00696-00169020-00169216 some people respond to that but most
Vfl6rFonC9o-00697-00169217-00169469 seem to not respond to that because
Vfl6rFonC9o-00698-00169470-00169643 facts and figures
Vfl6rFonC9o-00699-00169644-00169871 sure they evoke Authority but they don't
Vfl6rFonC9o-00700-00169872-00170021 motivate and he looked as a
Vfl6rFonC9o-00701-00170022-00170189 neuroscientist with his colleagues into
Vfl6rFonC9o-00702-00170190-00170526 what what makes us change behaviors
Vfl6rFonC9o-00703-00170527-00170849 and what makes us change behaviors
Vfl6rFonC9o-00704-00170850-00171233 we think first our values change through
Vfl6rFonC9o-00705-00171234-00171389 information and then we change our
Vfl6rFonC9o-00706-00171390-00171593 behaviors needs is in reality our
Vfl6rFonC9o-00707-00171594-00171851 behaviors often change long before our
Vfl6rFonC9o-00708-00171852-00172007 values change
Vfl6rFonC9o-00709-00172008-00172325 we first change our behaviors and that
Vfl6rFonC9o-00710-00172326-00172511 sometimes gives us the credibility then
Vfl6rFonC9o-00711-00172512-00172690 to also change our values without
Vfl6rFonC9o-00712-00172691-00172973 feeling like a hypocrite
Vfl6rFonC9o-00713-00172974-00173201 and and the assumption is that this goes
Vfl6rFonC9o-00714-00173202-00173495 back to our our past as a species that
Vfl6rFonC9o-00715-00173496-00173657 we are effectively and we still are as
Vfl6rFonC9o-00716-00173658-00173813 we could all see during covet when we
Vfl6rFonC9o-00717-00173814-00173951 started missing each other
Vfl6rFonC9o-00718-00173952-00174197 uh we are we are hurt animals of some
Vfl6rFonC9o-00719-00174198-00174293 sort
Vfl6rFonC9o-00720-00174294-00174514 and if we see others change behaviors
Vfl6rFonC9o-00721-00174515-00174671 that's when we look and say why are they
Vfl6rFonC9o-00722-00174672-00174833 changing their behaviors and they may be
Vfl6rFonC9o-00723-00174834-00174995 on to something and we maybe should try
Vfl6rFonC9o-00724-00174996-00175114 that too
Vfl6rFonC9o-00725-00175115-00175390 so the the conclusion he drew and I'm
Vfl6rFonC9o-00726-00175391-00175523 I'm not doing a great job at
Vfl6rFonC9o-00727-00175524-00175775 representing his Decades of research I'm
Vfl6rFonC9o-00728-00175776-00175871 sure
Vfl6rFonC9o-00729-00175872-00176081 um but the conclusion he landed at is to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00730-00176082-00176183 say
Vfl6rFonC9o-00731-00176184-00176513 um try to not frame an issue of any of
Vfl6rFonC9o-00732-00176514-00176783 the sdgs as an as an issue where you
Vfl6rFonC9o-00733-00176784-00176969 talk about the issue and abstract terms
Vfl6rFonC9o-00734-00176970-00177209 but frame it as an action
Vfl6rFonC9o-00735-00177210-00177437 make it a story about people or
Vfl6rFonC9o-00736-00177438-00177809 organizations or groups doing things
Vfl6rFonC9o-00737-00177810-00178001 and that that is something that appeals
Vfl6rFonC9o-00738-00178002-00178223 to our psyche a lot more than abstract
Vfl6rFonC9o-00739-00178224-00178559 descriptions of issues or problems
Vfl6rFonC9o-00740-00178560-00178745 oh that's great advice that's really
Vfl6rFonC9o-00741-00178746-00178876 nice thank you
Vfl6rFonC9o-00742-00178877-00179081 and Abigail it sounds like that's that
Vfl6rFonC9o-00743-00179082-00179375 that's like the the in each of your
Vfl6rFonC9o-00744-00179376-00179537 interviews that you have with your
Vfl6rFonC9o-00745-00179538-00179788 climate activists and experts I think
Vfl6rFonC9o-00746-00179789-00179957 you said each each one includes what is
Vfl6rFonC9o-00747-00179958-00180197 your call to action what sort of calls
Vfl6rFonC9o-00748-00180198-00180335 have have you heard as you've been
Vfl6rFonC9o-00749-00180336-00180838 interviewing people for your podcast
Vfl6rFonC9o-00750-00180839-00180928 um
Vfl6rFonC9o-00751-00180929-00181193 I'd say something that has been very
Vfl6rFonC9o-00752-00181194-00181528 common uh now is the issue on loss and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00753-00181529-00181745 damage Finance
Vfl6rFonC9o-00754-00181746-00182219 um so I recently traveled to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00755-00182220-00182466 a place in Kenya called isiolo County
Vfl6rFonC9o-00756-00182467-00182921 which is a semi-arid region in Kenya but
Vfl6rFonC9o-00757-00182922-00183190 over the last two years they have not
Vfl6rFonC9o-00758-00183191-00183364 received anything
Vfl6rFonC9o-00759-00183365-00183516 completely
Vfl6rFonC9o-00760-00183517-00183988 it is very dry and a bit stronger having
Vfl6rFonC9o-00761-00183989-00184301 to even experience that and think that
Vfl6rFonC9o-00762-00184302-00184378 is
Vfl6rFonC9o-00763-00184379-00184747 water shortage their animals are dying
Vfl6rFonC9o-00764-00184748-00185087 uh it was quite graphic we came across a
Vfl6rFonC9o-00765-00185088-00185423 lot of carcass on our way to that place
Vfl6rFonC9o-00766-00185424-00185825 and so you look at these communities and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00767-00185826-00186178 they depend on on these animals for
Vfl6rFonC9o-00768-00186179-00186376 income they need
Vfl6rFonC9o-00769-00186377-00186575 because they sell they sell meat and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00770-00186576-00186659 milk
Vfl6rFonC9o-00771-00186660-00187037 and also sell these animals to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00772-00187038-00187307 to be able to get money in the houses to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00773-00187308-00187475 be able to buy food take their kids to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00774-00187476-00187793 school to buy water since water is also
Vfl6rFonC9o-00775-00187794-00188045 becoming a big issue and it's a very
Vfl6rFonC9o-00776-00188046-00188302 expensive commodity enough so you look
Vfl6rFonC9o-00777-00188303-00188587 at these communities and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00778-00188588-00188831 adaptation and mitigation there's
Vfl6rFonC9o-00779-00188832-00189019 actually nothing for that
Vfl6rFonC9o-00780-00189020-00189275 everything is completely gone that's
Vfl6rFonC9o-00781-00189276-00189551 really I don't see how anyone can adapt
Vfl6rFonC9o-00782-00189552-00189875 to such a situation and so we speak of
Vfl6rFonC9o-00783-00189876-00190102 financing for loss and damage for such
Vfl6rFonC9o-00784-00190103-00190301 communities and that was just one part
Vfl6rFonC9o-00785-00190302-00190637 the other areas that are quite worse and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00786-00190638-00190721 so
Vfl6rFonC9o-00787-00190722-00190997 I'd say that has been quite common with
Vfl6rFonC9o-00788-00190998-00191159 the climate activists and experts and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00789-00191160-00191537 then the issue of energy transition but
Vfl6rFonC9o-00790-00191538-00191783 um Just Energy transition in this case
Vfl6rFonC9o-00791-00191784-00191981 uh being that there's a lot of
Vfl6rFonC9o-00792-00191982-00192185 conversation around
Vfl6rFonC9o-00793-00192186-00192478 around circus in Africa and people have
Vfl6rFonC9o-00794-00192479-00192743 a lot of different opinions about it and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00795-00192744-00193037 then also the aspect where Africa has
Vfl6rFonC9o-00796-00193038-00193283 great potential for renewable energy but
Vfl6rFonC9o-00797-00193284-00193487 then again the issue of Finance is a
Vfl6rFonC9o-00798-00193488-00193847 problem so uh really calling uh world
Vfl6rFonC9o-00799-00193848-00194009 leaders and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00800-00194010-00194231 the pledges that have been made over the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00801-00194232-00194476 last couple of years to be fulfilled
Vfl6rFonC9o-00802-00194477-00194819 and immediate action for such
Vfl6rFonC9o-00803-00194820-00195088 communities and also doubling up of the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00804-00195089-00195376 adaptation fund uh being that you know
Vfl6rFonC9o-00805-00195377-00195557 you also come for communities that are
Vfl6rFonC9o-00806-00195558-00195761 actually feeling the brand of or the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00807-00195762-00195893 impact of climate change to a great
Vfl6rFonC9o-00808-00195894-00196199 extent so that has been
Vfl6rFonC9o-00809-00196200-00196571 quite a common thing and I spoke to an
Vfl6rFonC9o-00810-00196572-00196973 indigenous person who from a from a big
Vfl6rFonC9o-00811-00196974-00197188 uh from one of the biggest indigenous
Vfl6rFonC9o-00812-00197189-00197411 groups in Kenya and they're also
Vfl6rFonC9o-00813-00197412-00197614 experiencing land right issues which was
Vfl6rFonC9o-00814-00197615-00197866 quite interesting and she spoke about
Vfl6rFonC9o-00815-00197867-00198083 how they're also losing their culture
Vfl6rFonC9o-00816-00198084-00198269 their language the climate crisis which
Vfl6rFonC9o-00817-00198270-00198401 are which are things that we actually
Vfl6rFonC9o-00818-00198402-00198676 never think about so they initially used
Vfl6rFonC9o-00819-00198677-00198935 to be hunters and gatherers but then now
Vfl6rFonC9o-00820-00198936-00199157 they've had to diversify the economy
Vfl6rFonC9o-00821-00199158-00199288 they're not business people they're not
Vfl6rFonC9o-00822-00199289-00199559 practice agriculture which is completely
Vfl6rFonC9o-00823-00199560-00199781 against what their culture and value did
Vfl6rFonC9o-00824-00199782-00200093 so uh it's been quite an interesting
Vfl6rFonC9o-00825-00200094-00200333 experience to speak these people and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00826-00200334-00200476 just get completely different
Vfl6rFonC9o-00827-00200477-00200873 perspective about people's lives so yeah
Vfl6rFonC9o-00828-00200874-00201400 I'd pay that no thank you
Vfl6rFonC9o-00829-00201401-00201671 and Jason on the on the issue of of
Vfl6rFonC9o-00830-00201672-00202114 actions um either that you know that you
Vfl6rFonC9o-00831-00202115-00202276 and your group push for or that you're
Vfl6rFonC9o-00832-00202277-00202469 that you're seeing
Vfl6rFonC9o-00833-00202470-00202564 um
Vfl6rFonC9o-00834-00202565-00202823 make a difference uh is there anything
Vfl6rFonC9o-00835-00202824-00203045 you'd like to to share about that any
Vfl6rFonC9o-00836-00203046-00203333 specific examples of things that are
Vfl6rFonC9o-00837-00203334-00203554 happening that that seem you know in the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00838-00203555-00203740 solutions you know working towards
Vfl6rFonC9o-00839-00203741-00203873 Solutions
Vfl6rFonC9o-00840-00203874-00204016 sure
Vfl6rFonC9o-00841-00204017-00204226 um so it's interesting that listening to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00842-00204227-00204419 Abigail because from from our
Vfl6rFonC9o-00843-00204420-00204773 perspective as well lost on damage and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00844-00204774-00205192 energy transition uh the the two main
Vfl6rFonC9o-00845-00205194-00205534 things that you know we we really push
Vfl6rFonC9o-00846-00205535-00205871 on on on support particularly energy
Vfl6rFonC9o-00847-00205871-00206214 transition as it relates to our own
Vfl6rFonC9o-00848-00206215-00206548 peculiar situation I think on top of
Vfl6rFonC9o-00849-00206550-00206903 that is really
Vfl6rFonC9o-00850-00206904-00207336 um billing capacity and capacity
Vfl6rFonC9o-00851-00207337-00207592 including human capacity
Vfl6rFonC9o-00852-00207594-00207898 so right now we're working with a couple
Vfl6rFonC9o-00853-00207900-00208198 of our two or three institutions to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00854-00208200-00208588 really revisit their curriculum so that
Vfl6rFonC9o-00855-00208589-00208960 it is more future proof and considers
Vfl6rFonC9o-00856-00208961-00209286 more aspects around sustainability
Vfl6rFonC9o-00857-00209287-00209596 because we know that's where what is
Vfl6rFonC9o-00858-00209598-00209794 going to be required for us it's it's
Vfl6rFonC9o-00859-00209796-00209998 where the world is going
Vfl6rFonC9o-00860-00210000-00210310 and into doing
Vfl6rFonC9o-00861-00210311-00210510 um really lobbying for more
Vfl6rFonC9o-00862-00210511-00210815 interdisciplinary research approaches
Vfl6rFonC9o-00863-00210816-00211151 because a lot of these complex issues
Vfl6rFonC9o-00864-00211152-00211505 around climate change and sustainability
Vfl6rFonC9o-00865-00211506-00211858 um really cross different Pathways and I
Vfl6rFonC9o-00866-00211859-00212027 know there's there's a lot of different
Vfl6rFonC9o-00867-00212028-00212237 views to that
Vfl6rFonC9o-00868-00212238-00212519 um so I'll try not to put myself in more
Vfl6rFonC9o-00869-00212519-00212729 trouble than that I may have already
Vfl6rFonC9o-00870-00212730-00212903 done
Vfl6rFonC9o-00871-00212904-00213221 um but I think the third area and just
Vfl6rFonC9o-00872-00213221-00213377 to be briefly
Vfl6rFonC9o-00873-00213378-00213671 is how do we bring
Vfl6rFonC9o-00874-00213671-00213982 um the academics the researchers and the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00875-00213983-00214171 practitioners together
Vfl6rFonC9o-00876-00214171-00214446 and ensure that there's alignment
Vfl6rFonC9o-00877-00214448-00214782 sometimes the the information that
Vfl6rFonC9o-00878-00214783-00215146 practitioners need they don't have
Vfl6rFonC9o-00879-00215148-00215429 access to it yet there are many cases
Vfl6rFonC9o-00880-00215430-00215615 where the research is done and is
Vfl6rFonC9o-00881-00215616-00215789 available
Vfl6rFonC9o-00882-00215790-00216094 um but the flip side often occurs where
Vfl6rFonC9o-00883-00216096-00216419 research may be conducted and that may
Vfl6rFonC9o-00884-00216419-00216498 not
Vfl6rFonC9o-00885-00216500-00216958 necessarily be what practitioners need
Vfl6rFonC9o-00886-00216959-00217331 um to really make a a input in their own
Vfl6rFonC9o-00887-00217332-00217642 specific areas so I mean those are just
Vfl6rFonC9o-00888-00217644-00217882 three examples that I thought I would
Vfl6rFonC9o-00889-00217883-00218255 highlight
Vfl6rFonC9o-00890-00218256-00218789 thank you
Vfl6rFonC9o-00891-00218790-00219029 yeah so um people in the audience please
Vfl6rFonC9o-00892-00219030-00219334 do feel free to to um to add questions
Vfl6rFonC9o-00893-00219335-00219532 to the Q a box
Vfl6rFonC9o-00894-00219533-00219839 uh and we will um we've got a lot to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00895-00219840-00220060 talk about but uh yeah there's let's see
Vfl6rFonC9o-00896-00220061-00220163 I think looks like some have been
Vfl6rFonC9o-00897-00220164-00220331 answered already
Vfl6rFonC9o-00898-00220332-00220498 um so yeah please uh feel free to ask
Vfl6rFonC9o-00899-00220500-00220669 questions at any time
Vfl6rFonC9o-00900-00220669-00221008 so one of the things that I think is a
Vfl6rFonC9o-00901-00221009-00221296 challenge for communicating about sdg is
Vfl6rFonC9o-00902-00221298-00221698 about climate about Solutions is the uh
Vfl6rFonC9o-00903-00221700-00221932 just the we're competing
Vfl6rFonC9o-00904-00221933-00222184 um whenever we communicate with just
Vfl6rFonC9o-00905-00222185-00222365 massive misinformation and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00906-00222366-00222587 disinformation and confusion and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00907-00222588-00222844 distraction and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00908-00222846-00222989 um you know especially around climate
Vfl6rFonC9o-00909-00222990-00223181 that's you know some of the most the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00910-00223182-00223421 apprenticious most awful
Vfl6rFonC9o-00911-00223421-00223691 um conspiracy theories are about climate
Vfl6rFonC9o-00912-00223692-00223931 science and you know we're all talking
Vfl6rFonC9o-00913-00223932-00224092 about it because we're being paid off by
Vfl6rFonC9o-00914-00224094-00224284 some powerful company that for whatever
Vfl6rFonC9o-00915-00224285-00224525 reason the the conspiracy theories never
Vfl6rFonC9o-00916-00224526-00224729 makes sense but they're quite elaborate
Vfl6rFonC9o-00917-00224730-00224884 um is this something that you've had to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00918-00224885-00225113 deal with and do you have any strategies
Vfl6rFonC9o-00919-00225114-00225346 for how to kind of out-compete
Vfl6rFonC9o-00920-00225348-00225544 misinformation or help your audience
Vfl6rFonC9o-00921-00225546-00225694 recognize that a lot of what they're
Vfl6rFonC9o-00922-00225696-00226441 hearing just isn't true
Vfl6rFonC9o-00923-00226442-00226894 so it is a it is a big concern and a big
Vfl6rFonC9o-00924-00226896-00227044 issue
Vfl6rFonC9o-00925-00227046-00227231 um I think what we have seen our
Vfl6rFonC9o-00926-00227232-00227434 experience is that
Vfl6rFonC9o-00927-00227435-00227908 people recognize things have changed so
Vfl6rFonC9o-00928-00227909-00228196 even though there is misinformation out
Vfl6rFonC9o-00929-00228198-00228491 there people remember what five years
Vfl6rFonC9o-00930-00228492-00228808 ago what 10 years ago used to be like
Vfl6rFonC9o-00931-00228809-00229103 and the fact that it is significantly
Vfl6rFonC9o-00932-00229104-00229384 different right now
Vfl6rFonC9o-00933-00229385-00229915 um and that I believe is a strong
Vfl6rFonC9o-00934-00229916-00230179 opening position
Vfl6rFonC9o-00935-00230180-00230477 to to Really Point them in the direction
Vfl6rFonC9o-00936-00230478-00230729 that you know the changes in the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00937-00230730-00231089 environment are due to what we are as
Vfl6rFonC9o-00938-00231090-00231425 humans have done and once you start to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00939-00231426-00231658 connect those dots
Vfl6rFonC9o-00940-00231659-00231869 um even without using some of the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00941-00231869-00232073 scientific language because you know a
Vfl6rFonC9o-00942-00232073-00232360 big part about this is relatedness as
Vfl6rFonC9o-00943-00232361-00232642 we've spoken about then then people
Vfl6rFonC9o-00944-00232644-00232984 start uh I think push for greater
Vfl6rFonC9o-00945-00232985-00233248 information and then you could Point
Vfl6rFonC9o-00946-00233250-00233537 them to you know the podcast the the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00947-00233538-00233932 different wood that is occurring and and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00948-00233933-00234275 and so forth so there's a lot of room
Vfl6rFonC9o-00949-00234276-00234575 for different players
Vfl6rFonC9o-00950-00234576-00235144 um Civil Society Young Folks researchers
Vfl6rFonC9o-00951-00235146-00235565 um industry I see industry carefully
Vfl6rFonC9o-00952-00235566-00235834 um and so forth and it's really to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00953-00235835-00236123 ensure that we have a message that is
Vfl6rFonC9o-00954-00236123-00236542 aligned
Vfl6rFonC9o-00955-00236544-00236873 I would like to add something Laura that
Vfl6rFonC9o-00956-00236873-00237160 may may be controversial I hope it isn't
Vfl6rFonC9o-00957-00237161-00237425 but it very much depends on the country
Vfl6rFonC9o-00958-00237426-00237731 you operate in of course we have so many
Vfl6rFonC9o-00959-00237732-00238013 wonderfully so so many people joining us
Vfl6rFonC9o-00960-00238014-00238169 from many different countries around the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00961-00238169-00238439 world and there's there's no average but
Vfl6rFonC9o-00962-00238440-00238960 by and large in in
Vfl6rFonC9o-00963-00238961-00239219 about 40 countries where that has been
Vfl6rFonC9o-00964-00239219-00239423 measured
Vfl6rFonC9o-00965-00239423-00239687 um the the percentage of of outright
Vfl6rFonC9o-00966-00239688-00239956 climate science deniers
Vfl6rFonC9o-00967-00239957-00240179 um is smaller than than many people
Vfl6rFonC9o-00968-00240180-00240473 think it's often far below 20 and even
Vfl6rFonC9o-00969-00240473-00240682 less than 15 percent
Vfl6rFonC9o-00970-00240683-00240929 and um I noticed that in several
Vfl6rFonC9o-00971-00240930-00241067 European countries which are not
Vfl6rFonC9o-00972-00241067-00241241 representative for the entire world but
Vfl6rFonC9o-00973-00241242-00241408 in in several European countries and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00974-00241409-00241648 also in the United States I think that
Vfl6rFonC9o-00975-00241650-00241925 by now uh news organizations almost
Vfl6rFonC9o-00976-00241926-00242279 spent too much time on trying to reach
Vfl6rFonC9o-00977-00242280-00242639 the deniers versus caring and looking
Vfl6rFonC9o-00978-00242640-00242842 after that vast majority of the
Vfl6rFonC9o-00979-00242844-00243094 population that that fully acknowledges
Vfl6rFonC9o-00980-00243096-00243341 the climate science and specifically
Vfl6rFonC9o-00981-00243342-00243539 that aspect of climate science of human
Vfl6rFonC9o-00982-00243540-00243737 made climate change and would like to
Vfl6rFonC9o-00983-00243738-00243894 know what to do
Vfl6rFonC9o-00984-00243896-00244169 and and so this this kind of Journalism
Vfl6rFonC9o-00985-00244169-00244360 that still says climate change is here
Vfl6rFonC9o-00986-00244361-00244594 and it's real and it's human made yes
Vfl6rFonC9o-00987-00244596-00244715 that is important it needs to be
Vfl6rFonC9o-00988-00244716-00244925 repeated but that's not the end point
Vfl6rFonC9o-00989-00244926-00245123 should not be the end point of so much
Vfl6rFonC9o-00990-00245123-00245405 journalism anymore as it still is
Vfl6rFonC9o-00991-00245406-00245603 we should we should have much more
Vfl6rFonC9o-00992-00245604-00245860 journalistic resource invested in in
Vfl6rFonC9o-00993-00245861-00246148 competing strategies for mitigation and
Vfl6rFonC9o-00994-00246150-00246382 adaptation
Vfl6rFonC9o-00995-00246383-00246629 um so that's that's while it is hugely
Vfl6rFonC9o-00996-00246630-00246808 important what what you're asking about
Vfl6rFonC9o-00997-00246809-00247001 how to deal with and cope with
Vfl6rFonC9o-00998-00247002-00247331 misinformation we can never stop
Vfl6rFonC9o-00999-00247332-00247660 um I think specifically journalism also
Vfl6rFonC9o-01000-00247661-00247913 needs to move beyond that
Vfl6rFonC9o-01001-00247914-00248165 uh because we we run the risk of not
Vfl6rFonC9o-01002-00248166-00248339 providing information for the majority
Vfl6rFonC9o-01003-00248340-00248494 of our readers who are wondering what
Vfl6rFonC9o-01004-00248496-00248767 can we do and have already
Vfl6rFonC9o-01005-00248767-00249029 signaled their engagement with us and
Vfl6rFonC9o-01006-00249030-00249215 then as a strategy for dealing with
Vfl6rFonC9o-01007-00249216-00249358 misinformation
Vfl6rFonC9o-01008-00249359-00249431 um
Vfl6rFonC9o-01009-00249432-00249863 similar to to vaccines inoculation I
Vfl6rFonC9o-01010-00249864-00250156 think is the best antidote is to inform
Vfl6rFonC9o-01011-00250157-00250348 and to really provide Basics and
Vfl6rFonC9o-01012-00250350-00250577 narratives and also provide them in a
Vfl6rFonC9o-01013-00250578-00250775 way where people can repeat them
Vfl6rFonC9o-01014-00250776-00250996 in the bar and their sports club without
Vfl6rFonC9o-01015-00250998-00251206 sounding like science nerds but to
Vfl6rFonC9o-01016-00251207-00251405 really break it down into repeatable
Vfl6rFonC9o-01017-00251406-00251681 narratives that people can utilize in
Vfl6rFonC9o-01018-00251682-00251848 their own private life and at their own
Vfl6rFonC9o-01019-00251850-00252029 family's dinner table
Vfl6rFonC9o-01020-00252030-00252334 yeah thank you great points Abigail is
Vfl6rFonC9o-01021-00252335-00252532 there is this something that you've that
Vfl6rFonC9o-01022-00252533-00252946 you've wrestled with much
Vfl6rFonC9o-01023-00252948-00253187 I wouldn't say I have
Vfl6rFonC9o-01024-00253188-00253427 and I completely agree with what Jason
Vfl6rFonC9o-01025-00253428-00253889 uh spoke about so I'd say just recently
Vfl6rFonC9o-01026-00253890-00254201 last week uh I was in a community of
Vfl6rFonC9o-01027-00254202-00254482 women farmers and
Vfl6rFonC9o-01028-00254483-00254710 so part of the conversation that we had
Vfl6rFonC9o-01029-00254711-00255071 was we were asking them what would you
Vfl6rFonC9o-01030-00255071-00255373 say has changed over the past 10 years
Vfl6rFonC9o-01031-00255373-00255701 and someone would say I used to
Vfl6rFonC9o-01032-00255702-00256091 plant Maize twice a year but our days I
Vfl6rFonC9o-01033-00256092-00256301 only have to plant once
Vfl6rFonC9o-01034-00256302-00256744 um I used to to to farm I used to
Vfl6rFonC9o-01035-00256746-00256973 produce yams in my farm but I no longer
Vfl6rFonC9o-01036-00256973-00257327 do so I had to transition and and plant
Vfl6rFonC9o-01037-00257328-00257621 ground nuts instead so they understand
Vfl6rFonC9o-01038-00257621-00257884 from that perspective that the things
Vfl6rFonC9o-01039-00257885-00258148 that have changed and it's easy for you
Vfl6rFonC9o-01040-00258150-00258227 to
Vfl6rFonC9o-01041-00258228-00258505 to speak to them about climate change
Vfl6rFonC9o-01042-00258506-00258755 by relating to the changes that they
Vfl6rFonC9o-01043-00258756-00259151 have seen so they'll tell you how
Vfl6rFonC9o-01044-00259152-00259487 initially by end of February that is
Vfl6rFonC9o-01045-00259488-00259696 when they till land for the first time
Vfl6rFonC9o-01046-00259698-00260027 and then start planting mid-match but
Vfl6rFonC9o-01047-00260028-00260429 then this year as late as may they had
Vfl6rFonC9o-01048-00260430-00260596 not planted anything because there are
Vfl6rFonC9o-01049-00260598-00260819 no Lanes so they understand from that
Vfl6rFonC9o-01050-00260819-00261137 perspective and I think uh like Wolfgang
Vfl6rFonC9o-01051-00261138-00261346 says it's very difficult it's different
Vfl6rFonC9o-01052-00261348-00261605 for different communities you can't use
Vfl6rFonC9o-01053-00261606-00261821 one thing to explain climate change to
Vfl6rFonC9o-01054-00261821-00262025 everyone because people experience
Vfl6rFonC9o-01055-00262026-00262337 experience it differently so I'd say um
Vfl6rFonC9o-01056-00262338-00262705 with misinformation not so much because
Vfl6rFonC9o-01057-00262706-00262973 we already experiencing climate change
Vfl6rFonC9o-01058-00262974-00263284 so people can actually understand from
Vfl6rFonC9o-01059-00263285-00263556 their own possible experiences yeah
Vfl6rFonC9o-01060-00263557-00263782 Abigail I had one
Vfl6rFonC9o-01061-00263783-00264155 um one colleague from uh Kenya who
Vfl6rFonC9o-01062-00264156-00264353 really surprised me along the lines of
Vfl6rFonC9o-01063-00264354-00264539 what you just said she said yeah but
Vfl6rFonC9o-01064-00264540-00264839 what do I do with science communication
Vfl6rFonC9o-01065-00264840-00265139 when so many of my listeners are being
Vfl6rFonC9o-01066-00265140-00265367 hit very hard by climate change but
Vfl6rFonC9o-01067-00265368-00265571 think it's God's punishment where do I
Vfl6rFonC9o-01068-00265572-00265691 even start
Vfl6rFonC9o-01069-00265692-00265849 yeah
Vfl6rFonC9o-01070-00265850-00266075 but we're not even discussing whether
Vfl6rFonC9o-01071-00266076-00266249 climate change is human made but the
Vfl6rFonC9o-01072-00266250-00266434 very idea of climate change happening
Vfl6rFonC9o-01073-00266435-00266658 needs to be established first
Vfl6rFonC9o-01074-00266659-00266932 but that really drove it home to me what
Vfl6rFonC9o-01075-00266933-00267082 enormous challenges some of our
Vfl6rFonC9o-01076-00267083-00267245 colleagues are facing that I wasn't even
Vfl6rFonC9o-01077-00267246-00267658 aware of yeah it's crazy the same way I
Vfl6rFonC9o-01078-00267659-00267784 had someone say they
Vfl6rFonC9o-01079-00267785-00268039 say there's a class and you wonder what
Vfl6rFonC9o-01080-00268040-00268313 there's really a lot of work to be done
Vfl6rFonC9o-01081-00268314-00268529 with regards to really breaking down the
Vfl6rFonC9o-01082-00268530-00268756 complex terms used to describe climate
Vfl6rFonC9o-01083-00268757-00268949 change in a way that they can understand
Vfl6rFonC9o-01084-00268950-00269225 and so for this particular Community
Vfl6rFonC9o-01085-00269226-00269369 you'd see they have different
Vfl6rFonC9o-01086-00269370-00269615 technologies that they really apply
Vfl6rFonC9o-01087-00269616-00269891 thanks to organizations that have really
Vfl6rFonC9o-01088-00269892-00270095 taken the time to teach them how to
Vfl6rFonC9o-01089-00270096-00270473 adapt how to diversify how to to to like
Vfl6rFonC9o-01090-00270474-00270634 the different Technologies they can do
Vfl6rFonC9o-01091-00270635-00270832 to make sure they harvest enough rain
Vfl6rFonC9o-01092-00270833-00271073 water in their phones and it's really
Vfl6rFonC9o-01093-00271074-00271277 working for them and when we were
Vfl6rFonC9o-01094-00271278-00271456 leaving we also asked what would you
Vfl6rFonC9o-01095-00271457-00271625 want say the government to do what the
Vfl6rFonC9o-01096-00271626-00271775 world leaders to do because they're
Vfl6rFonC9o-01097-00271776-00272056 trying to describe cop to them but in a
Vfl6rFonC9o-01098-00272057-00272225 very simplified way and most of them
Vfl6rFonC9o-01099-00272226-00272627 would say we want more education because
Vfl6rFonC9o-01100-00272628-00272801 they understand the importance of
Vfl6rFonC9o-01101-00272802-00272969 education and you'll see a difference
Vfl6rFonC9o-01102-00272970-00273184 with Farmers who've been through that
Vfl6rFonC9o-01103-00273185-00273371 that kind of training and Farmers who've
Vfl6rFonC9o-01104-00273372-00273503 not been through training you'll find
Vfl6rFonC9o-01105-00273504-00273730 them planting in much when there's no
Vfl6rFonC9o-01106-00273731-00274006 reason and so they end up losing their
Vfl6rFonC9o-01107-00274007-00274223 yield and that is what they depend on to
Vfl6rFonC9o-01108-00274224-00274421 take their kids to school to have on
Vfl6rFonC9o-01109-00274422-00274675 their table everything for medical use
Vfl6rFonC9o-01110-00274676-00275087 so I guess we really need to do more in
Vfl6rFonC9o-01111-00275088-00275255 terms of education and really
Vfl6rFonC9o-01112-00275256-00275549 remembering that we have to break it
Vfl6rFonC9o-01113-00275550-00276377 down in a way that we can understand
Vfl6rFonC9o-01114-00276378-00276593 so one of the other things I was hoping
Vfl6rFonC9o-01115-00276594-00276760 we could talk about is social media and
Vfl6rFonC9o-01116-00276761-00276965 Abigail you started out you mentioned
Vfl6rFonC9o-01117-00276966-00277199 that Instagram was really one of you
Vfl6rFonC9o-01118-00277200-00277295 know one of the ways that you
Vfl6rFonC9o-01119-00277296-00277558 communicated with uh yeah with it with a
Vfl6rFonC9o-01120-00277559-00277780 wider audience you maybe expected um do
Vfl6rFonC9o-01121-00277781-00277967 any of you have tips for how you know
Vfl6rFonC9o-01122-00277968-00278260 how to use social media effectively
Vfl6rFonC9o-01123-00278261-00278453 um to communicate about climate uh or
Vfl6rFonC9o-01124-00278454-00278693 other sustainable development goals and
Vfl6rFonC9o-01125-00278694-00278867 especially anybody any advice you might
Vfl6rFonC9o-01126-00278868-00279058 have for people in the audience who are
Vfl6rFonC9o-01127-00279059-00279280 you know trying to to use social media
Vfl6rFonC9o-01128-00279281-00279713 themselves
Vfl6rFonC9o-01129-00279714-00280079 should I go first sure okay
Vfl6rFonC9o-01130-00280080-00280384 um so I'd say we're very lucky to be in
Vfl6rFonC9o-01131-00280385-00280606 a season where
Vfl6rFonC9o-01132-00280607-00280943 uh you have social media at
Vfl6rFonC9o-01133-00280944-00281158 your convenience you can easily post
Vfl6rFonC9o-01134-00281159-00281465 anything without anyone limiting you so
Vfl6rFonC9o-01135-00281466-00281639 uh
Vfl6rFonC9o-01136-00281640-00281932 I'd say like really use this platform to
Vfl6rFonC9o-01137-00281933-00282077 make an impact to really use the
Vfl6rFonC9o-01138-00282078-00282305 platform to make a change and the good
Vfl6rFonC9o-01139-00282306-00282569 thing is a lot of us young people are
Vfl6rFonC9o-01140-00282570-00282827 very creative and you can't explain
Vfl6rFonC9o-01141-00282828-00283091 something so complex in a one minute
Vfl6rFonC9o-01142-00283092-00283391 video and people will understand and can
Vfl6rFonC9o-01143-00283392-00283637 easily understand without really having
Vfl6rFonC9o-01144-00283638-00283823 to explain climate change in very
Vfl6rFonC9o-01145-00283824-00284087 complicated terms so
Vfl6rFonC9o-01146-00284088-00284315 um there are very many platforms we have
Vfl6rFonC9o-01147-00284316-00284615 I've seen people trying to use tick tock
Vfl6rFonC9o-01148-00284616-00284915 to also do activism climate change I I
Vfl6rFonC9o-01149-00284916-00285058 do struggle a bit when it comes to
Vfl6rFonC9o-01150-00285059-00285299 social media but I realized that's the
Vfl6rFonC9o-01151-00285300-00285473 only way to actually Reach people so
Vfl6rFonC9o-01152-00285474-00285658 I've had to really put myself out there
Vfl6rFonC9o-01153-00285659-00285923 because I was more of a policy person
Vfl6rFonC9o-01154-00285924-00286319 I'd be deep in in in in papers and
Vfl6rFonC9o-01155-00286320-00286513 policy work but then
Vfl6rFonC9o-01156-00286514-00286763 this particular podcast has really
Vfl6rFonC9o-01157-00286764-00287134 opened up a lot of this spaces for me to
Vfl6rFonC9o-01158-00287135-00287284 really speak about climate change and
Vfl6rFonC9o-01159-00287285-00287506 most importantly to amplify stories of
Vfl6rFonC9o-01160-00287507-00287806 communities so from using
Vfl6rFonC9o-01161-00287807-00288119 Instagram Facebook LinkedIn Twitter
Vfl6rFonC9o-01162-00288120-00288556 um uh Spotify Apple podcast and I also
Vfl6rFonC9o-01163-00288557-00288815 decided to start up a website which is
Vfl6rFonC9o-01164-00288816-00289139 not public yet but now for this
Vfl6rFonC9o-01165-00289140-00289313 particular website we will have an
Vfl6rFonC9o-01166-00289314-00289517 opportunity where people can
Vfl6rFonC9o-01167-00289518-00289739 openly write about what they think about
Vfl6rFonC9o-01168-00289740-00289895 climate change even for those who don't
Vfl6rFonC9o-01169-00289896-00290069 understand if the platform for them to
Vfl6rFonC9o-01170-00290070-00290297 to really explain what they what they
Vfl6rFonC9o-01171-00290298-00290513 understand of the climate crisis and
Vfl6rFonC9o-01172-00290514-00290741 then also most importantly to now really
Vfl6rFonC9o-01173-00290742-00291029 tell stories of communities uh being
Vfl6rFonC9o-01174-00291030-00291251 that they're very different and the
Vfl6rFonC9o-01175-00291252-00291460 experiences are very different but then
Vfl6rFonC9o-01176-00291461-00291623 creating a platform where they're able
Vfl6rFonC9o-01177-00291624-00291755 to share their stories and their
Vfl6rFonC9o-01178-00291756-00292013 experiences which can be shared globally
Vfl6rFonC9o-01179-00292014-00292349 and someone who's probably who does who
Vfl6rFonC9o-01180-00292350-00292534 has not seen the impacts of climate
Vfl6rFonC9o-01181-00292535-00292780 change first hand can learn from someone
Vfl6rFonC9o-01182-00292781-00293123 else's free from across the globe and
Vfl6rFonC9o-01183-00293124-00293429 yeah I just say go for it and don't be
Vfl6rFonC9o-01184-00293430-00293656 afraid to start put yourself out there
Vfl6rFonC9o-01185-00293657-00293825 and if this is what you really want to
Vfl6rFonC9o-01186-00293826-00293980 do remember you're really creating a
Vfl6rFonC9o-01187-00293981-00294065 difference
Vfl6rFonC9o-01188-00294066-00294305 even just telling that one story about a
Vfl6rFonC9o-01189-00294306-00294497 farmer or that one story about someone
Vfl6rFonC9o-01190-00294498-00294851 who's there
Vfl6rFonC9o-01191-00294852-00295037 very important and you're making a
Vfl6rFonC9o-01192-00295038-00295156 difference yeah
Vfl6rFonC9o-01193-00295157-00295619 yeah thank you that's great advice
Vfl6rFonC9o-01194-00295620-00295930 I mean it's it's really hard to add to
Vfl6rFonC9o-01195-00295931-00296177 what Abigail just mentioned I think she
Vfl6rFonC9o-01196-00296178-00296501 she covered all of the pieces there
Vfl6rFonC9o-01197-00296502-00296782 um maybe the only thing is you know
Vfl6rFonC9o-01198-00296783-00297047 there's always
Vfl6rFonC9o-01199-00297048-00297310 um someone or folks who say can one
Vfl6rFonC9o-01200-00297311-00297491 person make a difference
Vfl6rFonC9o-01201-00297492-00297845 and what I will see is in the era of
Vfl6rFonC9o-01202-00297846-00298001 social media
Vfl6rFonC9o-01203-00298002-00298337 the the answer is absolutely
Vfl6rFonC9o-01204-00298338-00298595 um particularly if you share your story
Vfl6rFonC9o-01205-00298596-00298906 and what you've been doing how you've
Vfl6rFonC9o-01206-00298907-00299179 been impacted the actions you have taken
Vfl6rFonC9o-01207-00299180-00299560 and by galvanizing your family your
Vfl6rFonC9o-01208-00299561-00299843 community your peers
Vfl6rFonC9o-01209-00299844-00300071 um you know social media allows you to
Vfl6rFonC9o-01210-00300072-00300553 be quite impactful
Vfl6rFonC9o-01211-00300554-00301049 maybe maybe to to what uh Abigail and
Vfl6rFonC9o-01212-00301050-00301223 Jason just said
Vfl6rFonC9o-01213-00301224-00301325 um
Vfl6rFonC9o-01214-00301326-00301732 add two things one is to yes focus on on
Vfl6rFonC9o-01215-00301733-00301973 action on what can be done to to
Vfl6rFonC9o-01216-00301974-00302189 overcome that sense of disempowerment
Vfl6rFonC9o-01217-00302190-00302393 and hopelessness that climate related
Vfl6rFonC9o-01218-00302394-00302645 information can trigger but then also to
Vfl6rFonC9o-01219-00302646-00302830 be careful to not fall into the Trap of
Vfl6rFonC9o-01220-00302831-00303058 making it all about my personal carbon
Vfl6rFonC9o-01221-00303059-00303263 footprint or my personal adaptation
Vfl6rFonC9o-01222-00303264-00303479 measures
Vfl6rFonC9o-01223-00303480-00303730 um which as we all know that can can
Vfl6rFonC9o-01224-00303731-00303977 have this unintended and sometimes
Vfl6rFonC9o-01225-00303978-00304180 intended effect by by people who use
Vfl6rFonC9o-01226-00304181-00304337 this book for almost propaganda or
Vfl6rFonC9o-01227-00304338-00304510 misinformation purposes of forgetting
Vfl6rFonC9o-01228-00304511-00304787 what the actual causes of climate change
Vfl6rFonC9o-01229-00304788-00305189 and what the role is of fossil fuels
Vfl6rFonC9o-01230-00305190-00305375 um so it needs to it needs to have that
Vfl6rFonC9o-01231-00305376-00305621 context I think versus only focusing on
Vfl6rFonC9o-01232-00305622-00305927 my changes in diet or whatever else is
Vfl6rFonC9o-01233-00305928-00306047 involved
Vfl6rFonC9o-01234-00306048-00306317 um the other element is is to a lot of
Vfl6rFonC9o-01235-00306318-00306569 social media is still replicating a
Vfl6rFonC9o-01236-00306570-00306797 broadcast mentality of trying to use
Vfl6rFonC9o-01237-00306798-00306982 social media to reach as many people as
Vfl6rFonC9o-01238-00306983-00307234 possible and not making enough use of
Vfl6rFonC9o-01239-00307235-00307379 social media's ability to create
Vfl6rFonC9o-01240-00307380-00307595 communities of Exchange
Vfl6rFonC9o-01241-00307596-00307823 and especially again around climate
Vfl6rFonC9o-01242-00307824-00308093 change I made a mistake when I took off
Vfl6rFonC9o-01243-00308094-00308273 from my last full-time role to really
Vfl6rFonC9o-01244-00308274-00308519 study climate change in more depth I
Vfl6rFonC9o-01245-00308520-00308675 thought I could just lock away myself
Vfl6rFonC9o-01246-00308676-00308867 away and just read read
Vfl6rFonC9o-01247-00308868-00309119 and and only slowly realized the effect
Vfl6rFonC9o-01248-00309120-00309299 that had on my psyche and on my
Vfl6rFonC9o-01249-00309300-00309449 well-being
Vfl6rFonC9o-01250-00309450-00309682 and I was used to seeing horrendous
Vfl6rFonC9o-01251-00309683-00309845 things as a news journalist and I
Vfl6rFonC9o-01252-00309846-00310001 thought I can deal with any information
Vfl6rFonC9o-01253-00310002-00310145 no matter how threatening or
Vfl6rFonC9o-01254-00310146-00310306 demoralizing at this professional
Vfl6rFonC9o-01255-00310307-00310619 distance but the the climate crisis in
Vfl6rFonC9o-01256-00310620-00311008 these ipcc climate science reports
Vfl6rFonC9o-01257-00311009-00311075 um
Vfl6rFonC9o-01258-00311076-00311284 once you really let it touch you they
Vfl6rFonC9o-01259-00311285-00311549 are so severe and in the Futures they
Vfl6rFonC9o-01260-00311550-00311830 describe if we don't manage to prevent
Vfl6rFonC9o-01261-00311831-00312119 further further emissions
Vfl6rFonC9o-01262-00312120-00312382 um that I I really needed community and
Vfl6rFonC9o-01263-00312383-00312563 so if someone asks me now what should I
Vfl6rFonC9o-01264-00312564-00312695 read I still give reading
Vfl6rFonC9o-01265-00312696-00312899 recommendations but I also always say
Vfl6rFonC9o-01266-00312900-00313060 who are you reading with
Vfl6rFonC9o-01267-00313061-00313343 you know find a community find a reading
Vfl6rFonC9o-01268-00313344-00313523 group don't do this alone and I think
Vfl6rFonC9o-01269-00313524-00313660 that should be an element of social
Vfl6rFonC9o-01270-00313661-00314117 media also to encourage people to to not
Vfl6rFonC9o-01271-00314118-00314482 be alone in in looking into not just
Vfl6rFonC9o-01272-00314483-00314777 climate change but many of the other sdg
Vfl6rFonC9o-01273-00314778-00315047 challenges
Vfl6rFonC9o-01274-00315048-00315239 yeah that's great advice
Vfl6rFonC9o-01275-00315240-00315406 um my my social media of choice is
Vfl6rFonC9o-01276-00315407-00315634 Twitter and it does feel like a
Vfl6rFonC9o-01277-00315635-00315869 community or a lot of different kinds of
Vfl6rFonC9o-01278-00315870-00316151 communities uh and yeah it's amazing
Vfl6rFonC9o-01279-00316152-00316373 what you can learn and who you can meet
Vfl6rFonC9o-01280-00316374-00316780 um with with such a low barrier to entry
Vfl6rFonC9o-01281-00316781-00317021 yeah that's all great advice so I think
Vfl6rFonC9o-01282-00317022-00317249 some of the people in the audience are
Vfl6rFonC9o-01283-00317250-00317543 our researchers or scientists themselves
Vfl6rFonC9o-01284-00317544-00317782 um do you have any you know quick bits
Vfl6rFonC9o-01285-00317783-00318023 of advice for them about how to work
Vfl6rFonC9o-01286-00318024-00318203 with communicators how to communicate
Vfl6rFonC9o-01287-00318204-00318521 themselves their own research I know
Vfl6rFonC9o-01288-00318522-00318737 we've talked on some some good advice
Vfl6rFonC9o-01289-00318738-00318917 already but is there any any other
Vfl6rFonC9o-01290-00318918-00319054 things specifically especially for like
Vfl6rFonC9o-01291-00319055-00319265 the early career researchers how can
Vfl6rFonC9o-01292-00319266-00319517 they you how can they communicate better
Vfl6rFonC9o-01293-00319518-00319871 to make more of an impact
Vfl6rFonC9o-01294-00319872-00320765 that's a very wide question I realized
Vfl6rFonC9o-01295-00320766-00321143 well I'll I'll take a full stop at it
Vfl6rFonC9o-01296-00321144-00321425 um so I mentioned the sdg
Vfl6rFonC9o-01297-00321426-00321863 um Publishers Compact and you know they
Vfl6rFonC9o-01298-00321864-00322175 have actually put out some top 10 tips
Vfl6rFonC9o-01299-00322176-00322373 on a number of different things
Vfl6rFonC9o-01300-00322374-00322577 including
Vfl6rFonC9o-01301-00322578-00322780 um addressing the the question that
Vfl6rFonC9o-01302-00322781-00323056 you've asked they are wrong
Vfl6rFonC9o-01303-00323057-00323363 um researchers and you know
Vfl6rFonC9o-01304-00323364-00323717 communication and engagement there's
Vfl6rFonC9o-01305-00323718-00324149 some tips for for Publishers as well
Vfl6rFonC9o-01306-00324150-00324382 um so I think that's that's a good
Vfl6rFonC9o-01307-00324383-00324580 starting point
Vfl6rFonC9o-01308-00324581-00324923 um collaboration and and really ensuring
Vfl6rFonC9o-01309-00324924-00325121 that
Vfl6rFonC9o-01310-00325122-00325273 um
Vfl6rFonC9o-01311-00325274-00325830 the output of what you are researching
Vfl6rFonC9o-01312-00325831-00326243 can be easily understood by by
Vfl6rFonC9o-01313-00326244-00326441 practitioners
Vfl6rFonC9o-01314-00326442-00326771 um whether it's in your your abstract or
Vfl6rFonC9o-01315-00326772-00327119 or so forth and and that
Vfl6rFonC9o-01316-00327120-00327454 um for the the Publishers out there I
Vfl6rFonC9o-01317-00327455-00327767 know there are many ensuring that that
Vfl6rFonC9o-01318-00327768-00328043 abstract can can really have the
Vfl6rFonC9o-01319-00328044-00328241 visibility
Vfl6rFonC9o-01320-00328242-00328745 um so so persons could accept access it
Vfl6rFonC9o-01321-00328746-00328960 I think that's that's the big ones for
Vfl6rFonC9o-01322-00328961-00329267 me yeah good ones
Vfl6rFonC9o-01323-00329268-00329530 I think jargon is really important and
Vfl6rFonC9o-01324-00329531-00329927 and Technical language I I try to read
Vfl6rFonC9o-01325-00329928-00330154 science scientific papers but often I
Vfl6rFonC9o-01326-00330155-00330293 also find myself
Vfl6rFonC9o-01327-00330294-00330484 realizing I just don't understand it and
Vfl6rFonC9o-01328-00330485-00330713 then I know most likely this or this
Vfl6rFonC9o-01329-00330714-00330875 journalist who is assigned a trained
Vfl6rFonC9o-01330-00330876-00331121 scientist will translate it for me
Vfl6rFonC9o-01331-00331122-00331493 but scientists tend to forget I find
Vfl6rFonC9o-01332-00331494-00331829 um just how much they know and and how
Vfl6rFonC9o-01333-00331830-00332087 difficult it can be to read some some
Vfl6rFonC9o-01334-00332088-00332308 science papers
Vfl6rFonC9o-01335-00332309-00332560 um so there's that and then also to
Vfl6rFonC9o-01336-00332561-00332758 understand that journalists naturally
Vfl6rFonC9o-01337-00332759-00332969 look for they hope for the Breakthrough
Vfl6rFonC9o-01338-00332970-00333071 story
Vfl6rFonC9o-01339-00333072-00333280 which frustrates many scientists because
Vfl6rFonC9o-01340-00333281-00333497 most science happens in increments and
Vfl6rFonC9o-01341-00333498-00333713 not in Leaps and Bounds and so the
Vfl6rFonC9o-01342-00333714-00333875 scientists are worried about being
Vfl6rFonC9o-01343-00333876-00334103 misrepresented by the journalist
Vfl6rFonC9o-01344-00334104-00334306 and ungrateful to the community of
Vfl6rFonC9o-01345-00334307-00334469 scientists around them that all have
Vfl6rFonC9o-01346-00334470-00334684 contributed to this and yet they also
Vfl6rFonC9o-01347-00334685-00334865 need to understand or need to help the
Vfl6rFonC9o-01348-00334866-00335021 journalist understand what is the news
Vfl6rFonC9o-01349-00335022-00335260 what's new here and and why should I
Vfl6rFonC9o-01350-00335261-00335477 report about this versus expecting the
Vfl6rFonC9o-01351-00335478-00336065 journalists to work their way through it
Vfl6rFonC9o-01352-00336066-00336180 foreign
Vfl6rFonC9o-01353-00336181-00336406 matchmaking organizations such as
Vfl6rFonC9o-01354-00336407-00336539 sideline
Vfl6rFonC9o-01355-00336540-00336754 that scientists should work with and
Vfl6rFonC9o-01356-00336755-00336910 many journalists also don't know about
Vfl6rFonC9o-01357-00336911-00337084 them but they're a Matchmaker where I'm
Vfl6rFonC9o-01358-00337085-00337271 not just I don't just find a
Vfl6rFonC9o-01359-00337272-00337439 meteorologist but if I want to know
Vfl6rFonC9o-01360-00337440-00337667 something about clouds specifically to
Vfl6rFonC9o-01361-00337668-00337937 really find the right scientists for the
Vfl6rFonC9o-01362-00337938-00338063 question I have
Vfl6rFonC9o-01363-00338064-00338225 then in in many countries they're
Vfl6rFonC9o-01364-00338226-00338380 matchmaking organizations and if you
Vfl6rFonC9o-01365-00338381-00338597 don't have them in your country it's
Vfl6rFonC9o-01366-00338598-00338741 always worth looking if there's a
Vfl6rFonC9o-01367-00338742-00339004 National Weather Service
Vfl6rFonC9o-01368-00339005-00339239 um or if there is a large broadcaster
Vfl6rFonC9o-01369-00339240-00339437 that you can contact that employs
Vfl6rFonC9o-01370-00339438-00339599 meteorologists
Vfl6rFonC9o-01371-00339600-00339953 to help you with your research question
Vfl6rFonC9o-01372-00339954-00340139 yeah those are great tips yeah and I
Vfl6rFonC9o-01373-00340140-00340306 just put the sideline link
Vfl6rFonC9o-01374-00340307-00340613 um and yeah well I'm going to add a few
Vfl6rFonC9o-01375-00340614-00340810 more links too and any of the panelists
Vfl6rFonC9o-01376-00340811-00341003 um in Orange please feel free to to add
Vfl6rFonC9o-01377-00341004-00341254 more links for for the audience our time
Vfl6rFonC9o-01378-00341255-00341399 here is so short and there's so much to
Vfl6rFonC9o-01379-00341400-00341560 talk about and we're already we're
Vfl6rFonC9o-01380-00341561-00341758 already at the hour almost
Vfl6rFonC9o-01381-00341759-00342071 um so I want to kind of you know pull
Vfl6rFonC9o-01382-00342072-00342203 out some of the big themes we've talked
Vfl6rFonC9o-01383-00342204-00342437 about and and these are things that you
Vfl6rFonC9o-01384-00342438-00342623 know that we I feel like I've learned a
Vfl6rFonC9o-01385-00342624-00342821 lot from all of you on the panel and I
Vfl6rFonC9o-01386-00342822-00342989 hope the audience has
Vfl6rFonC9o-01387-00342990-00343229 um I think some big takeaways uh for for
Vfl6rFonC9o-01388-00343230-00343523 for anybody for anybody in the audiences
Vfl6rFonC9o-01389-00343524-00343684 um there's a huge power of personal
Vfl6rFonC9o-01390-00343685-00344129 stories and uh and telling stories that
Vfl6rFonC9o-01391-00344130-00344339 are that are memorable that are real
Vfl6rFonC9o-01392-00344340-00344554 that are emotional that are honest and
Vfl6rFonC9o-01393-00344555-00344723 generous and welcoming
Vfl6rFonC9o-01394-00344724-00344884 um can really Reach people in a way that
Vfl6rFonC9o-01395-00344885-00345058 sometimes the data by itself
Vfl6rFonC9o-01396-00345059-00345275 unfortunately doesn't
Vfl6rFonC9o-01397-00345276-00345425 um I think we've we've talked about how
Vfl6rFonC9o-01398-00345426-00345665 every story is a climate story
Vfl6rFonC9o-01399-00345666-00345929 um and sometimes you know when you when
Vfl6rFonC9o-01400-00345930-00346110 you really want to get it
Vfl6rFonC9o-01401-00346111-00346421 help people understand climate it every
Vfl6rFonC9o-01402-00346422-00346606 everything we do unfortunately it's the
Vfl6rFonC9o-01403-00346607-00346732 story of our lifetimes it's it's
Vfl6rFonC9o-01404-00346733-00347027 changing the planet in so many ways
Vfl6rFonC9o-01405-00347028-00347279 um and it's important to kind of help
Vfl6rFonC9o-01406-00347280-00347458 people understand what's happening how
Vfl6rFonC9o-01407-00347459-00347608 the world is changing how it's changed
Vfl6rFonC9o-01408-00347609-00347734 in their lifetimes in their own
Vfl6rFonC9o-01409-00347735-00347993 experience and kind of refer them to
Vfl6rFonC9o-01410-00347994-00348275 that as a way to make it real and to be
Vfl6rFonC9o-01411-00348276-00348460 welcoming and to make your climate
Vfl6rFonC9o-01412-00348461-00348671 communication welcoming and and
Vfl6rFonC9o-01413-00348672-00348845 inclusive
Vfl6rFonC9o-01414-00348846-00349121 um Solutions it's really important to
Vfl6rFonC9o-01415-00349122-00349408 talk about Solutions and share the share
Vfl6rFonC9o-01416-00349409-00349679 Solutions in a way that um
Vfl6rFonC9o-01417-00349680-00350003 that is is honest about the the scope of
Vfl6rFonC9o-01418-00350004-00350141 the problem
Vfl6rFonC9o-01419-00350142-00350315 um but also that it's that it's not
Vfl6rFonC9o-01420-00350316-00350543 hopeless that there are things we can do
Vfl6rFonC9o-01421-00350544-00350777 I'm just putting a link into an article
Vfl6rFonC9o-01422-00350778-00351010 in Scientific American about how
Vfl6rFonC9o-01423-00351011-00351251 um climate change actions are really
Vfl6rFonC9o-01424-00351252-00351425 popular like everybody wants to do
Vfl6rFonC9o-01425-00351426-00351617 something but at least in the United
Vfl6rFonC9o-01426-00351618-00351737 States a lot of people think that
Vfl6rFonC9o-01427-00351738-00351856 they're alone they don't realize that
Vfl6rFonC9o-01428-00351857-00352091 that's um that climate action is
Vfl6rFonC9o-01429-00352092-00352217 something that people care so much about
Vfl6rFonC9o-01430-00352218-00352445 I think that's frankly a failure of the
Vfl6rFonC9o-01431-00352446-00352756 media to um to to you know present
Vfl6rFonC9o-01432-00352757-00352960 things in in a way that that really does
Vfl6rFonC9o-01433-00352961-00353069 reflect
Vfl6rFonC9o-01434-00353070-00353308 um what we know about about public
Vfl6rFonC9o-01435-00353309-00353584 opinion uh and then action
Vfl6rFonC9o-01436-00353585-00353675 um you know the difference between
Vfl6rFonC9o-01437-00353676-00353849 issues yes these are very important
Vfl6rFonC9o-01438-00353850-00354028 issues but there are also actions that
Vfl6rFonC9o-01439-00354029-00354232 we can refer people to that we can help
Vfl6rFonC9o-01440-00354233-00354430 people understand
Vfl6rFonC9o-01441-00354431-00354647 um that uh that that are part of the
Vfl6rFonC9o-01442-00354648-00354791 solutions they're part of hope that are
Vfl6rFonC9o-01443-00354792-00355037 part of kind of uh helping helping you
Vfl6rFonC9o-01444-00355038-00355234 do uh what what your neighbors are doing
Vfl6rFonC9o-01445-00355235-00355469 and help them do the right thing
Vfl6rFonC9o-01446-00355470-00355810 and um and then yeah amplify good
Vfl6rFonC9o-01447-00355811-00355997 information
Vfl6rFonC9o-01448-00355998-00356308 um you know any of the amplify the work
Vfl6rFonC9o-01449-00356309-00356567 of the of everybody on the panel here
Vfl6rFonC9o-01450-00356568-00356825 um on social media look for communities
Vfl6rFonC9o-01451-00356826-00356987 um share reliable information share
Vfl6rFonC9o-01452-00356988-00357167 important information things that are
Vfl6rFonC9o-01453-00357168-00357353 that are memorable and sticky and real
Vfl6rFonC9o-01454-00357354-00357556 and actionable
Vfl6rFonC9o-01455-00357557-00357815 um
Vfl6rFonC9o-01456-00357816-00357958 just looking for another article about
Vfl6rFonC9o-01457-00357959-00358187 how it's it's not it's it's not too late
Vfl6rFonC9o-01458-00358188-00358378 and it's not impossible
Vfl6rFonC9o-01459-00358379-00358499 um I think there's there's kind of a
Vfl6rFonC9o-01460-00358500-00358708 persistent misunderstanding that there's
Vfl6rFonC9o-01461-00358709-00358853 a lot of climate change that's baked in
Vfl6rFonC9o-01462-00358854-00359045 and there's nothing we can do about it
Vfl6rFonC9o-01463-00359046-00359147 um but that's actually not what the
Vfl6rFonC9o-01464-00359148-00359332 climate models show if we stop we
Vfl6rFonC9o-01465-00359333-00359627 drastically reduce carbon dioxide and
Vfl6rFonC9o-01466-00359628-00359863 other greenhouse gas emissions right now
Vfl6rFonC9o-01467-00359864-00360106 temperatures will stabilize it's we're
Vfl6rFonC9o-01468-00360107-00360347 not doomed we can still fix this we
Vfl6rFonC9o-01469-00360348-00360491 can't you know and people need to know
Vfl6rFonC9o-01470-00360492-00360760 that that they can push for climate
Vfl6rFonC9o-01471-00360761-00360958 actions and that that's the world
Vfl6rFonC9o-01472-00360959-00361180 everybody in the world needs that to
Vfl6rFonC9o-01473-00361181-00361510 happen uh so those are some takeaways
Vfl6rFonC9o-01474-00361511-00361708 um I think I think all of us would like
Vfl6rFonC9o-01475-00361709-00361889 to to stay in touch with people in the
Vfl6rFonC9o-01476-00361890-00362093 audience if you're on the same social
Vfl6rFonC9o-01477-00362094-00362380 media platforms contact us that way let
Vfl6rFonC9o-01478-00362381-00362513 us know if you have if you have story
Vfl6rFonC9o-01479-00362514-00363054 ideas apply for the um apply for the um
Vfl6rFonC9o-01480-00363055-00363347 can you say again the name of yeah I'll
Vfl6rFonC9o-01481-00363348-00363580 post the link it is the Oxford climate
Vfl6rFonC9o-01482-00363581-00363749 journalism Network and the next
Vfl6rFonC9o-01483-00363750-00363971 application window for journalists
Vfl6rFonC9o-01484-00363972-00364228 freelance or employed from anywhere in
Vfl6rFonC9o-01485-00364229-00364332 the world
Vfl6rFonC9o-01486-00364333-00364619 opens in within the next weeks I'll just
Vfl6rFonC9o-01487-00364620-00364775 post the link here
Vfl6rFonC9o-01488-00364776-00365027 great thank you yeah and follow us
Vfl6rFonC9o-01489-00365028-00365363 listen listen to Abigail's podcast
Vfl6rFonC9o-01490-00365364-00365615 um follow a good good science
Vfl6rFonC9o-01491-00365616-00365860 communication climate information thanks
Vfl6rFonC9o-01492-00365861-00366173 for being part of of um of climate week
Vfl6rFonC9o-01493-00366174-00366425 of climate action of working towards cop
Vfl6rFonC9o-01494-00366426-00366677 I know it's it's something we're all
Vfl6rFonC9o-01495-00366678-00366923 trying to use the energy and the
Vfl6rFonC9o-01496-00366924-00367253 convening power and the attention to um
Vfl6rFonC9o-01497-00367254-00367408 to make a big difference in the world
Vfl6rFonC9o-01498-00367409-00367613 and I think together with with everybody
Vfl6rFonC9o-01499-00367614-00367937 in the audience we've got a shot at it
Vfl6rFonC9o-01500-00367938-00368080 um so panelists thank you so much for
Vfl6rFonC9o-01501-00368081-00368243 joining us I really appreciate it thanks
Vfl6rFonC9o-01502-00368244-00368465 to everybody in the audience and uh
Vfl6rFonC9o-01503-00368466-00368603 enjoy the rest of the conference it's
Vfl6rFonC9o-01504-00368604-00368801 really good to see you all
Vfl6rFonC9o-01505-00368802-00369034 thank you thanks
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W2iPWujuGrI-00000-00001040-00001158 all right
W2iPWujuGrI-00001-00001159-00001415 good morning everyone i'm bruce
W2iPWujuGrI-00002-00001416-00001550 mcpherson
W2iPWujuGrI-00003-00001551-00001671 chairman of the santa cruz county
W2iPWujuGrI-00004-00001672-00001830 regional transportation commission
W2iPWujuGrI-00005-00001832-00002055 welcome to our meeting of december 3rd
W2iPWujuGrI-00006-00002056-00002359 2020 at 9 00 a.m
W2iPWujuGrI-00007-00002360-00002591 uh we thank community tv for
W2iPWujuGrI-00008-00002592-00002702 broadcasting this
W2iPWujuGrI-00009-00002703-00003087 uh ken stenover uh we appreciate that
W2iPWujuGrI-00010-00003088-00003590 please i will start by with a roll call
W2iPWujuGrI-00011-00003592-00004015 commission alternate lynn
W2iPWujuGrI-00012-00004015-00004438 here commissioner gonzalez
W2iPWujuGrI-00013-00004439-00004759 here commissioner botorf here
W2iPWujuGrI-00014-00004760-00005054 commissioner mcpherson here commissioner
W2iPWujuGrI-00015-00005055-00005151 leopold
W2iPWujuGrI-00016-00005152-00005535 your commission alternate mulhern
W2iPWujuGrI-00017-00005536-00005879 here alternate shiffrin
W2iPWujuGrI-00018-00005880-00006270 here commissioner cappet here
W2iPWujuGrI-00019-00006271-00006663 commissioner kaufman gomez president
W2iPWujuGrI-00020-00006664-00007014 commissioner johnson i'm
W2iPWujuGrI-00021-00007015-00007167 in his alternate for commissioner
W2iPWujuGrI-00022-00007168-00007391 johnson today okay commission alternate
W2iPWujuGrI-00023-00007392-00007495 tim
W2iPWujuGrI-00024-00007495-00007846 president commissioner brown
W2iPWujuGrI-00025-00007847-00008483 here and commissioner eats
W2iPWujuGrI-00026-00008484-00008783 here very good thank you it's nice to
W2iPWujuGrI-00027-00008784-00008823 have
W2iPWujuGrI-00028-00008824-00009135 everyone here um uh we'll go to item
W2iPWujuGrI-00029-00009136-00009231 number two
W2iPWujuGrI-00030-00009232-00009495 oral communications uh any member of the
W2iPWujuGrI-00031-00009496-00009678 public may address the commission
W2iPWujuGrI-00032-00009679-00009846 on items that are not already on the
W2iPWujuGrI-00033-00009847-00010063 agenda we will have a limit of three
W2iPWujuGrI-00034-00010064-00010142 minutes
W2iPWujuGrI-00035-00010143-00010367 to speak is there anyone that would like
W2iPWujuGrI-00036-00010368-00010495 to address this under oral
W2iPWujuGrI-00037-00010496-00010678 communications on items that are not on
W2iPWujuGrI-00038-00010679-00011351 the agenda
W2iPWujuGrI-00039-00011352-00011806 you don't have anyone
W2iPWujuGrI-00040-00011807-00012014 sorry commissioner i was on mute we have
W2iPWujuGrI-00041-00012015-00012214 um donna murphy we have quite a few
W2iPWujuGrI-00042-00012215-00012295 hands up
W2iPWujuGrI-00043-00012296-00012551 oh excuse me okay go ahead maybe how
W2iPWujuGrI-00044-00012552-00012974 many do we have um
W2iPWujuGrI-00045-00012975-00013279 so far six okay well if we could limit
W2iPWujuGrI-00046-00013280-00013422 that to two minutes then that would be
W2iPWujuGrI-00047-00013423-00013463 great
W2iPWujuGrI-00048-00013463-00013822 thank you miss murphy
W2iPWujuGrI-00049-00013823-00014447 donna murphy
W2iPWujuGrI-00050-00014447-00014638 good morning this is not donna murphy
W2iPWujuGrI-00051-00014640-00014791 this is martin city miller but i am
W2iPWujuGrI-00052-00014791-00014911 using her account
W2iPWujuGrI-00053-00014912-00015175 good morning commissioners um i just
W2iPWujuGrI-00054-00015176-00015238 wanted to
W2iPWujuGrI-00055-00015240-00015430 take a moment to thank three members of
W2iPWujuGrI-00056-00015431-00015558 the commission who will
W2iPWujuGrI-00057-00015559-00015791 for whom this will be their last meeting
W2iPWujuGrI-00058-00015791-00016015 uh commissioner trina kaufman gomez
W2iPWujuGrI-00059-00016016-00016158 commissioner john leopold and
W2iPWujuGrI-00060-00016159-00016335 commissioner ed bach12
W2iPWujuGrI-00061-00016336-00016479 i just want to thank each of you for
W2iPWujuGrI-00062-00016480-00016727 your years of outstanding service
W2iPWujuGrI-00063-00016728-00016911 on behalf of our entire county and
W2iPWujuGrI-00064-00016912-00017150 looking out for the transportation needs
W2iPWujuGrI-00065-00017151-00017455 of everybody and uh and i wish you all
W2iPWujuGrI-00066-00017456-00017679 i wish you all well i the best of the
W2iPWujuGrI-00067-00017680-00017839 very best of luck to you
W2iPWujuGrI-00068-00017840-00018063 i also wanted to thank uh this take this
W2iPWujuGrI-00069-00018064-00018230 opportunity to thank the rotc
W2iPWujuGrI-00070-00018231-00018486 staff the metro staff and caltrans staff
W2iPWujuGrI-00071-00018487-00018750 who all jointly worked together so hard
W2iPWujuGrI-00072-00018751-00018950 to put the transit corridor alternative
W2iPWujuGrI-00073-00018951-00019094 analysis regional
W2iPWujuGrI-00074-00019095-00019327 uh rail network integration study out
W2iPWujuGrI-00075-00019328-00019447 and i really was
W2iPWujuGrI-00076-00019448-00019655 impressed with the body of work and
W2iPWujuGrI-00077-00019656-00019839 thank you all for your hard work
W2iPWujuGrI-00078-00019840-00020047 um i noticed that there were a number of
W2iPWujuGrI-00079-00020048-00020222 benefits attributed to the
W2iPWujuGrI-00080-00020223-00020471 the locally preferred alternative but
W2iPWujuGrI-00081-00020472-00020622 three important ones were missing
W2iPWujuGrI-00082-00020623-00021055 one is that the rare will protect 100
W2iPWujuGrI-00083-00021056-00021239 of the existing right-of-way and allow
W2iPWujuGrI-00084-00021240-00021494 completion of the rail trail asap
W2iPWujuGrI-00085-00021495-00021694 uh the second thing is that red will
W2iPWujuGrI-00086-00021695-00021839 generate 29
W2iPWujuGrI-00087-00021840-00022078 more permanent jobs and 22 percent more
W2iPWujuGrI-00088-00022079-00022222 construction jobs
W2iPWujuGrI-00089-00022223-00022471 than the brt option and finally on
W2iPWujuGrI-00090-00022472-00022567 average rail
W2iPWujuGrI-00091-00022568-00022830 will be about four times safer than bus
W2iPWujuGrI-00092-00022831-00022927 on the corridor
W2iPWujuGrI-00093-00022928-00023119 so thank you all for your for your time
W2iPWujuGrI-00094-00023120-00023230 and energy this morning and thank you
W2iPWujuGrI-00095-00023231-00023591 for the opportunity to address you
W2iPWujuGrI-00096-00023592-00024630 sally arnold
W2iPWujuGrI-00097-00024631-00025039 there am i muted now yes okay sorry
W2iPWujuGrI-00098-00025040-00025294 um i'm sally arnold i'm the board chair
W2iPWujuGrI-00099-00025295-00025447 for santa cruz county friends of the
W2iPWujuGrI-00100-00025448-00025550 rail and trail
W2iPWujuGrI-00101-00025551-00025734 um and i just want to uh draw your
W2iPWujuGrI-00102-00025735-00025958 attention to the public comments
W2iPWujuGrI-00103-00025960-00026127 that were received last month regarding
W2iPWujuGrI-00104-00026127-00026311 the tcaa since the comments were only
W2iPWujuGrI-00105-00026312-00026511 posted yesterday late afternoon you may
W2iPWujuGrI-00106-00026512-00026718 not have had a chance to read them yet
W2iPWujuGrI-00107-00026719-00026911 and um honestly in the few hours we've
W2iPWujuGrI-00108-00026912-00027079 had had them we've really been
W2iPWujuGrI-00109-00027080-00027255 zipping through them as fast as we can
W2iPWujuGrI-00110-00027256-00027502 but i have to say that um
W2iPWujuGrI-00111-00027504-00027758 our initial review found that over 250
W2iPWujuGrI-00112-00027760-00027807 people
W2iPWujuGrI-00113-00027808-00028083 wrote to the rtc on the topic of the
W2iPWujuGrI-00114-00028083-00028207 tcaa
W2iPWujuGrI-00115-00028208-00028535 and well over 80 of them were pro
W2iPWujuGrI-00116-00028536-00028814 rail service only one percent we could
W2iPWujuGrI-00117-00028816-00028983 only find three people who spoke who
W2iPWujuGrI-00118-00028983-00029095 wrote in favor of
W2iPWujuGrI-00119-00029095-00029383 bus service um and so i think it's very
W2iPWujuGrI-00120-00029383-00029439 clear
W2iPWujuGrI-00121-00029439-00029767 that the community's strongly favors the
W2iPWujuGrI-00122-00029768-00029999 staff recommended locally preferred
W2iPWujuGrI-00123-00030000-00030095 alternative
W2iPWujuGrI-00124-00030095-00030351 and um i urge you to put a little uh you
W2iPWujuGrI-00125-00030352-00030407 know bro
W2iPWujuGrI-00126-00030408-00030518 spend a little time browsing the
W2iPWujuGrI-00127-00030519-00030670 comments some of them were really quite
W2iPWujuGrI-00128-00030672-00030831 moving and very specific
W2iPWujuGrI-00129-00030832-00031023 about ways in which uh rail transit
W2iPWujuGrI-00130-00031024-00031151 would have helped people with their
W2iPWujuGrI-00131-00031152-00031246 commutes
W2iPWujuGrI-00132-00031247-00031551 um had they had it um you know
W2iPWujuGrI-00133-00031552-00031767 if it were available for them so uh
W2iPWujuGrI-00134-00031768-00031862 thank you very much
W2iPWujuGrI-00135-00031863-00032199 and um i'm really looking forward to uh
W2iPWujuGrI-00136-00032200-00032399 seeing uh seeing this project move
W2iPWujuGrI-00137-00032400-00032502 forward and again
W2iPWujuGrI-00138-00032503-00032679 i want to echo mark's comments about
W2iPWujuGrI-00139-00032680-00032831 thanking the thanking the outgoing
W2iPWujuGrI-00140-00032832-00033046 commissioners for their fabulous work
W2iPWujuGrI-00141-00033047-00033231 um on not just the rail and trail but
W2iPWujuGrI-00142-00033232-00033399 many of the
W2iPWujuGrI-00143-00033400-00033590 transit projects that our county needs
W2iPWujuGrI-00144-00033591-00033855 thank you
W2iPWujuGrI-00145-00033856-00034415 uh mr saint michael saint
W2iPWujuGrI-00146-00034416-00034831 uh good morning commissioners and staff
W2iPWujuGrI-00147-00034832-00035151 transportation a few of us attended the
W2iPWujuGrI-00148-00035152-00035311 california transportation
W2iPWujuGrI-00149-00035312-00035462 commission meeting yesterday on the
W2iPWujuGrI-00150-00035463-00035783 funding congratulations for that
W2iPWujuGrI-00151-00035784-00036039 i'd like to share with you my comments
W2iPWujuGrI-00152-00036040-00036143 um
W2iPWujuGrI-00153-00036144-00036359 that i gave last yesterday to the
W2iPWujuGrI-00154-00036360-00036583 transportation commission
W2iPWujuGrI-00155-00036584-00036718 for the last four years i've been
W2iPWujuGrI-00156-00036719-00036990 advocating with my fellow advocates
W2iPWujuGrI-00157-00036991-00037143 asking our regional transportation
W2iPWujuGrI-00158-00037144-00037318 commission to pursue robust
W2iPWujuGrI-00159-00037319-00037639 mass transit system for our county this
W2iPWujuGrI-00160-00037640-00037711 has fallen
W2iPWujuGrI-00161-00037712-00038071 on deaf ears to consistent opposition to
W2iPWujuGrI-00162-00038072-00038295 changing course from single occupancy
W2iPWujuGrI-00163-00038296-00038551 vehicles to mass transit
W2iPWujuGrI-00164-00038552-00038751 is the imaginary view that voters want
W2iPWujuGrI-00165-00038752-00038895 highway widening
W2iPWujuGrI-00166-00038896-00039079 and that this will get santa cruz moving
W2iPWujuGrI-00167-00039080-00039327 again by relieving congestion
W2iPWujuGrI-00168-00039328-00039590 this is a false assertion on two counts
W2iPWujuGrI-00169-00039591-00039767 first the voters were fooled into voting
W2iPWujuGrI-00170-00039768-00039918 for measure d
W2iPWujuGrI-00171-00039919-00040118 because of a false treat pretense that
W2iPWujuGrI-00172-00040119-00040383 highway widening will relieve congestion
W2iPWujuGrI-00173-00040384-00040639 many experts and even members of the rtc
W2iPWujuGrI-00174-00040640-00040887 know that widening the highway will fail
W2iPWujuGrI-00175-00040888-00041023 in the long term
W2iPWujuGrI-00176-00041024-00041295 we will have spent nearly 250 million
W2iPWujuGrI-00177-00041296-00041623 dollars in taxpayers money for nothing
W2iPWujuGrI-00178-00041624-00041862 secondly this measure d passed by
W2iPWujuGrI-00179-00041863-00042199 approximately 2500 votes out of 132
W2iPWujuGrI-00180-00042200-00042518 000 cast this is in no way a voter
W2iPWujuGrI-00181-00042519-00042646 mandate
W2iPWujuGrI-00182-00042647-00042846 although it did pass but only because of
W2iPWujuGrI-00183-00042847-00043095 the other patients of measure d had good
W2iPWujuGrI-00184-00043096-00043430 options to help our county become safer
W2iPWujuGrI-00185-00043431-00043687 and more greener that is what passed
W2iPWujuGrI-00186-00043688-00043967 measure d i continually hear from our
W2iPWujuGrI-00187-00043968-00044183 constituents that only
W2iPWujuGrI-00188-00044184-00044374 voted for measure d because of those
W2iPWujuGrI-00189-00044375-00044599 options i previously listed which are
W2iPWujuGrI-00190-00044600-00044711 walking
W2iPWujuGrI-00191-00044712-00045015 biking rail trail pedestrian safety
W2iPWujuGrI-00192-00045016-00045262 at what point in time do we shift to a
W2iPWujuGrI-00193-00045263-00045511 more sustainable transportation system
W2iPWujuGrI-00194-00045512-00045767 why dean of highways does not work if
W2iPWujuGrI-00195-00045768-00046055 this oxlaine project is funded
W2iPWujuGrI-00196-00046056-00046230 we delay our mitigation efforts to
W2iPWujuGrI-00197-00046231-00046415 reduce greenhouse gas emissions
W2iPWujuGrI-00198-00046416-00046727 and vehicle mild travels for decades
W2iPWujuGrI-00199-00046728-00046943 we feel that our regional transportation
W2iPWujuGrI-00200-00046944-00047071 commission at caltrans
W2iPWujuGrI-00201-00047072-00047343 is failing us when it continues to fund
W2iPWujuGrI-00202-00047344-00047551 projects for single occupancy
W2iPWujuGrI-00203-00047552-00047855 vehicles they both failed to recognize
W2iPWujuGrI-00204-00047856-00048046 the urgency in mitigating the effects of
W2iPWujuGrI-00205-00048047-00048135 climate change
W2iPWujuGrI-00206-00048136-00048327 the old school mentality of highway
W2iPWujuGrI-00207-00048328-00048551 whitening is actually contributing
W2iPWujuGrI-00208-00048552-00048839 to global warming we urge you to not
W2iPWujuGrI-00209-00048840-00048990 fund this oxalaine project
W2iPWujuGrI-00210-00048991-00049295 as planned an alternate funding scenario
W2iPWujuGrI-00211-00049296-00049407 of dedicated bus
W2iPWujuGrI-00212-00049408-00049574 on shoulder would start us in the right
W2iPWujuGrI-00213-00049575-00049758 direction of a much more
W2iPWujuGrI-00214-00049759-00050062 sustainable transportation system thank
W2iPWujuGrI-00215-00050063-00050215 you for your time
W2iPWujuGrI-00216-00050216-00050535 happy holidays and also all my best to
W2iPWujuGrI-00217-00050536-00050695 those commissioners that are
W2iPWujuGrI-00218-00050696-00050902 going to be leaving us soon have a good
W2iPWujuGrI-00219-00050903-00051223 day
W2iPWujuGrI-00220-00051224-00052182 mr ben vernassa
W2iPWujuGrI-00221-00052183-00052599 okay can you hear me yes
W2iPWujuGrI-00222-00052600-00052919 you've got the material i sent everybody
W2iPWujuGrI-00223-00052920-00053182 uh which is a deep dive into the
W2iPWujuGrI-00224-00053183-00053366 ordinance
W2iPWujuGrI-00225-00053367-00053559 i want to tell you i think where we are
W2iPWujuGrI-00226-00053560-00053703 where you are
W2iPWujuGrI-00227-00053704-00053975 is you're circling the drain meaning
W2iPWujuGrI-00228-00053976-00054063 that
W2iPWujuGrI-00229-00054064-00054319 in the future unless you decide whether
W2iPWujuGrI-00230-00054320-00054454 you're going to have a train
W2iPWujuGrI-00231-00054455-00054703 or a trail you're going to be in this
W2iPWujuGrI-00232-00054704-00054847 quagmire
W2iPWujuGrI-00233-00054848-00055191 so let's assume that you want the train
W2iPWujuGrI-00234-00055191-00055511 how do you do it well first of all you
W2iPWujuGrI-00235-00055512-00055607 have to
W2iPWujuGrI-00236-00055608-00055926 recite the findings necessity
W2iPWujuGrI-00237-00055927-00056215 and second of all you have to get 8 out
W2iPWujuGrI-00238-00056216-00056415 of the 12 members to vote
W2iPWujuGrI-00239-00056416-00056671 for the train otherwise you can't
W2iPWujuGrI-00240-00056672-00056871 because the measured revenues do not
W2iPWujuGrI-00241-00056872-00056919 include
W2iPWujuGrI-00242-00056920-00057159 funding for any new train or rail
W2iPWujuGrI-00243-00057160-00057271 service
W2iPWujuGrI-00244-00057272-00057479 and that's the only way you can amend it
W2iPWujuGrI-00245-00057479-00057599 okay let's say you don't
W2iPWujuGrI-00246-00057600-00057887 want the train you want a trail what can
W2iPWujuGrI-00247-00057888-00057966 you do
W2iPWujuGrI-00248-00057967-00058303 at the next meeting you can vote
W2iPWujuGrI-00249-00058304-00058630 to stop supporting the
W2iPWujuGrI-00250-00058632-00058847 research on a train let's say that's
W2iPWujuGrI-00251-00058848-00059015 four percent of the eight percent that
W2iPWujuGrI-00252-00059016-00059111 goes
W2iPWujuGrI-00253-00059112-00059294 and you can transfer that to the trail
W2iPWujuGrI-00254-00059295-00059550 so now the trail has set up 17
W2iPWujuGrI-00255-00059551-00059926 21 at the same time
W2iPWujuGrI-00256-00059927-00060135 you can vote with a majority you don't
W2iPWujuGrI-00257-00060136-00060391 need two-thirds you just need a majority
W2iPWujuGrI-00258-00060391-00060654 you can vote to rail bank
W2iPWujuGrI-00259-00060655-00060863 and that you know that the train is only
W2iPWujuGrI-00260-00060864-00061079 mentioned twice in the ordinance
W2iPWujuGrI-00261-00061079-00061454 once no funding and second for
W2iPWujuGrI-00262-00061455-00061791 uh to get a preserve the rain up the
W2iPWujuGrI-00263-00061791-00061911 rail option
W2iPWujuGrI-00264-00061912-00062215 and what that means is rail banking
W2iPWujuGrI-00265-00062216-00062566 so in order to stop the drain from
W2iPWujuGrI-00266-00062567-00062926 draining you need a stopper to go in one
W2iPWujuGrI-00267-00062927-00063030 direction
W2iPWujuGrI-00268-00063032-00063254 so you got to do one of those two things
W2iPWujuGrI-00269-00063255-00063359 and you can do it
W2iPWujuGrI-00270-00063360-00063566 in the next three months not the next
W2iPWujuGrI-00271-00063567-00063759 five years we've been five years into
W2iPWujuGrI-00272-00063760-00063879 this
W2iPWujuGrI-00273-00063879-00064438 thank you very much
W2iPWujuGrI-00274-00064439-00065071 uh mr keith otto
W2iPWujuGrI-00275-00065072-00065342 yeah and um uh miss park could you pull
W2iPWujuGrI-00276-00065344-00065494 up the slides that i sent
W2iPWujuGrI-00277-00065495-00065759 in and can everybody hear me okay quick
W2iPWujuGrI-00278-00065760-00066006 sound check
W2iPWujuGrI-00279-00066007-00067919 yes thank you
W2iPWujuGrI-00280-00067920-00068087 great and if you could go to the next
W2iPWujuGrI-00281-00068088-00068543 slide with the reduced time
W2iPWujuGrI-00282-00068544-00068806 so keith otto county resident a couple
W2iPWujuGrI-00283-00068807-00068975 comments with regards to the
W2iPWujuGrI-00284-00068976-00069206 transit corridor alternatives analysis
W2iPWujuGrI-00285-00069207-00069415 the draft report
W2iPWujuGrI-00286-00069416-00069750 in particular i'm gonna talk about uh
W2iPWujuGrI-00287-00069751-00070111 ridership so ridership can be quoted as
W2iPWujuGrI-00288-00070112-00070294 users or boardings right one
W2iPWujuGrI-00289-00070295-00070503 commuter would be two boardings per day
W2iPWujuGrI-00290-00070504-00070679 aborting to go to work a second boarding
W2iPWujuGrI-00291-00070680-00070775 to return home
W2iPWujuGrI-00292-00070776-00071135 so again one user two boardings
W2iPWujuGrI-00293-00071136-00071399 the unified corridor study was very
W2iPWujuGrI-00294-00071400-00071631 clear on this 3 500 users
W2iPWujuGrI-00295-00071632-00071967 7 000 boardings per day it stated it
W2iPWujuGrI-00296-00071968-00072303 just that way it also referenced 100 000
W2iPWujuGrI-00297-00072304-00072494 users on highway 1 each day so
W2iPWujuGrI-00298-00072495-00072711 an incredibly small number of people
W2iPWujuGrI-00299-00072712-00072935 would use a train
W2iPWujuGrI-00300-00072936-00073455 so what does the new tcaa report tell us
W2iPWujuGrI-00301-00073456-00073703 are those ridership numbers users or
W2iPWujuGrI-00302-00073704-00073862 boardings in fact you won't find the
W2iPWujuGrI-00303-00073863-00073911 word
W2iPWujuGrI-00304-00073912-00074135 boardings at all in the report at least
W2iPWujuGrI-00305-00074136-00074255 i couldn't find it
W2iPWujuGrI-00306-00074256-00074582 i asked staff and the number
W2iPWujuGrI-00307-00074583-00074862 is in fact boardings not users so if we
W2iPWujuGrI-00308-00074863-00075103 want to look at the number of users
W2iPWujuGrI-00309-00075104-00075406 for the train we divide those numbers by
W2iPWujuGrI-00310-00075407-00075711 two and that's what i show here so the
W2iPWujuGrI-00311-00075712-00075967 upper end of the ridership estimates for
W2iPWujuGrI-00312-00075968-00076071 each of the train
W2iPWujuGrI-00313-00076072-00076359 options is now even less than the small
W2iPWujuGrI-00314-00076360-00076423 number
W2iPWujuGrI-00315-00076424-00076823 or from the ucis and some of the options
W2iPWujuGrI-00316-00076824-00076903 it's much
W2iPWujuGrI-00317-00076904-00077206 much less but that's not all next
W2iPWujuGrI-00318-00077207-00077543 slide please the ucis
W2iPWujuGrI-00319-00077544-00078071 forecast year was for 2035 and the tcaa
W2iPWujuGrI-00320-00078072-00078375 forecast year is 2040.
W2iPWujuGrI-00321-00078376-00078606 so the new information is that if we
W2iPWujuGrI-00322-00078607-00078687 look out
W2iPWujuGrI-00323-00078688-00078894 even farther into the future we're going
W2iPWujuGrI-00324-00078895-00079006 to see very
W2iPWujuGrI-00325-00079007-00079343 very very few riders
W2iPWujuGrI-00326-00079344-00079567 and then one more thing if you could go
W2iPWujuGrI-00327-00079568-00079838 to the next slide now please
W2iPWujuGrI-00328-00079839-00080150 consider sonoma marine area rail transit
W2iPWujuGrI-00329-00080151-00080367 so sonoma and marin have a population of
W2iPWujuGrI-00330-00080368-00080575 almost three times santa cruz county
W2iPWujuGrI-00331-00080576-00080823 and they've never had a weekday
W2iPWujuGrI-00332-00080824-00080894 ridership
W2iPWujuGrI-00333-00080895-00081231 of even 2 000 users so
W2iPWujuGrI-00334-00081232-00081487 what's the bottom line here i and many
W2iPWujuGrI-00335-00081488-00081550 support
W2iPWujuGrI-00336-00081551-00081855 public transit but a train in santa cruz
W2iPWujuGrI-00337-00081856-00081903 county
W2iPWujuGrI-00338-00081904-00082143 is not the way to go it's not going to
W2iPWujuGrI-00339-00082144-00082262 have ridership
W2iPWujuGrI-00340-00082263-00082518 for it to be a good investment thank you
W2iPWujuGrI-00341-00082519-00082687 for listening thank you for your time
W2iPWujuGrI-00342-00082688-00083103 this morning
W2iPWujuGrI-00343-00083104-00083847 uh mr carrie pico
W2iPWujuGrI-00344-00083848-00084343 please have the powerpoint
W2iPWujuGrI-00345-00084344-00084711 can you hear me yes okay
W2iPWujuGrI-00346-00084712-00085223 uh can you see my powerpoint
W2iPWujuGrI-00347-00085224-00085462 give me one second everybody knows i
W2iPWujuGrI-00348-00085463-00085687 love doing powerpoints
W2iPWujuGrI-00349-00085688-00085911 and i want everybody to pay attention to
W2iPWujuGrI-00350-00085912-00086087 the numbers except for mr
W2iPWujuGrI-00351-00086088-00086335 mcpherson because i know his staff looks
W2iPWujuGrI-00352-00086336-00086599 into the numbers very well
W2iPWujuGrI-00353-00086600-00086943 so this is just a
W2iPWujuGrI-00354-00086944-00087303 a plot of how each study reports
W2iPWujuGrI-00355-00087304-00087662 the the cost of the trade over 30 years
W2iPWujuGrI-00356-00087663-00087950 the first study was 526 i've added in
W2iPWujuGrI-00357-00087951-00088118 the operation cost
W2iPWujuGrI-00358-00088119-00088403 the next study went up by 350 million to
W2iPWujuGrI-00359-00088404-00088582 870 million
W2iPWujuGrI-00360-00088583-00088871 and the next study went up to 1.2
W2iPWujuGrI-00361-00088872-00089062 billion dollars
W2iPWujuGrI-00362-00089063-00089294 and so it says that each new study
W2iPWujuGrI-00363-00089295-00089518 brings it up by 350 maybe we'll get to a
W2iPWujuGrI-00364-00089519-00089735 realistic number but realistically
W2iPWujuGrI-00365-00089736-00089918 the realistic number is closer to the
W2iPWujuGrI-00366-00089919-00090135 1.2 billion
W2iPWujuGrI-00367-00090136-00090567 so uh next slide please
W2iPWujuGrI-00368-00090568-00090823 and so i've repeated this but i've also
W2iPWujuGrI-00369-00090824-00090926 showed
W2iPWujuGrI-00370-00090927-00091094 the different kind of studies that were
W2iPWujuGrI-00371-00091095-00091391 out there before the 2015 study which
W2iPWujuGrI-00372-00091392-00091599 quite honestly in my opinion did
W2iPWujuGrI-00373-00091600-00091718 everything i could to
W2iPWujuGrI-00374-00091719-00092087 underscore to make the cost look cheaper
W2iPWujuGrI-00375-00092088-00092359 this was my analysis using the 2015
W2iPWujuGrI-00376-00092360-00092447 study
W2iPWujuGrI-00377-00092448-00092638 of all their comparable trades and i
W2iPWujuGrI-00378-00092639-00092903 came to a 1.1 billion dollar
W2iPWujuGrI-00379-00092904-00093271 uh the mtis which was done in 1998
W2iPWujuGrI-00380-00093272-00093582 was 1.0 billion and then
W2iPWujuGrI-00381-00093583-00093894 the last one at the tcaa is
W2iPWujuGrI-00382-00093895-00094135 1.2 billion by the way these are all
W2iPWujuGrI-00383-00094136-00094374 inflation-adjusted numbers next slide
W2iPWujuGrI-00384-00094375-00094574 and i'm sorry i have to speed it up i've
W2iPWujuGrI-00385-00094575-00094887 got two minutes so now let's talk about
W2iPWujuGrI-00386-00094888-00095271 the trail well the trail
W2iPWujuGrI-00387-00095272-00095479 we're trying to sell it as a cheap thing
W2iPWujuGrI-00388-00095480-00095582 so it came to one
W2iPWujuGrI-00389-00095583-00095911 point 153 million by the first
W2iPWujuGrI-00390-00095912-00096150 estimate then the second estimate
W2iPWujuGrI-00391-00096151-00096274 brought it up to
W2iPWujuGrI-00392-00096275-00096606 301 million
W2iPWujuGrI-00393-00096607-00096879 and then my personal estimate because
W2iPWujuGrI-00394-00096880-00096911 the
W2iPWujuGrI-00395-00096912-00097215 the uh the trade the trail doesn't
W2iPWujuGrI-00396-00097216-00097294 include the
W2iPWujuGrI-00397-00097295-00097559 mass the excavation that really will uh
W2iPWujuGrI-00398-00097560-00097694 be realistically
W2iPWujuGrI-00399-00097695-00097991 uh incurred when you go to places where
W2iPWujuGrI-00400-00097992-00098055 the
W2iPWujuGrI-00401-00098056-00098279 the hills are undulating and difficult
W2iPWujuGrI-00402-00098280-00098431 and retaining walls
W2iPWujuGrI-00403-00098432-00098671 i put it closer to 400 million and
W2iPWujuGrI-00404-00098672-00098862 actually maybe even up to 500 million
W2iPWujuGrI-00405-00098863-00099055 next slide
W2iPWujuGrI-00406-00099056-00099374 i'm getting to the end which is the rtc
W2iPWujuGrI-00407-00099375-00099567 studies once the corridor was owned
W2iPWujuGrI-00408-00099568-00099823 appeared to be unrealistically rosy
W2iPWujuGrI-00409-00099824-00100023 causing for public outcry for a new
W2iPWujuGrI-00410-00100024-00100231 study at least those who were skeptical
W2iPWujuGrI-00411-00100232-00100471 of the results which included me
W2iPWujuGrI-00412-00100472-00100671 and the result was the cost of the train
W2iPWujuGrI-00413-00100672-00100847 doubled by the way what i didn't get to
W2iPWujuGrI-00414-00100848-00100935 point out was
W2iPWujuGrI-00415-00100936-00101191 each of those studies at the end the
W2iPWujuGrI-00416-00101192-00101311 cost was double
W2iPWujuGrI-00417-00101312-00101535 the 2015 amount i couldn't see it
W2iPWujuGrI-00418-00101536-00101647 because somehow
W2iPWujuGrI-00419-00101648-00101806 i have something blanked out on my
W2iPWujuGrI-00420-00101807-00102103 screen the cost of the trail doubled
W2iPWujuGrI-00421-00102104-00102359 the county faces so if you want to build
W2iPWujuGrI-00422-00102360-00102447 them both
W2iPWujuGrI-00423-00102448-00102686 you've got a 1.5 billion dollar rail
W2iPWujuGrI-00424-00102688-00102863 trail package that you can't
W2iPWujuGrI-00425-00102864-00103086 afford you'll have people saying oh gee
W2iPWujuGrI-00426-00103088-00103327 what is sb1 we'll pay for it all
W2iPWujuGrI-00427-00103328-00103534 i want to point out that smart train
W2iPWujuGrI-00428-00103535-00103751 itself only gets 38 percent of its
W2iPWujuGrI-00429-00103752-00103799 operating
W2iPWujuGrI-00430-00103800-00104127 costs and um
W2iPWujuGrI-00431-00104128-00104439 and i guess you you pulled the screen
W2iPWujuGrI-00432-00104440-00104599 away but
W2iPWujuGrI-00433-00104600-00104975 the last thing i want to say is
W2iPWujuGrI-00434-00104976-00105207 you know the rtc should step back
W2iPWujuGrI-00435-00105208-00105375 determine what it can afford on the
W2iPWujuGrI-00436-00105376-00105478 corridor
W2iPWujuGrI-00437-00105479-00105663 understanding that a hundred million
W2iPWujuGrI-00438-00105664-00105871 dollar limit in funds for the trail
W2iPWujuGrI-00439-00105872-00106215 i should have put and so my attitude is
W2iPWujuGrI-00440-00106216-00106399 stop wasting public money let's get
W2iPWujuGrI-00441-00106400-00106671 realistic and stop moving forward on
W2iPWujuGrI-00442-00106672-00107071 things you can't afford thank you
W2iPWujuGrI-00443-00107072-00108519 uh johanna lighthill
W2iPWujuGrI-00444-00108520-00108775 there we go okay can you hear me okay
W2iPWujuGrI-00445-00108776-00108854 yes
W2iPWujuGrI-00446-00108855-00109078 thank you um thanks commissioners for
W2iPWujuGrI-00447-00109079-00109278 considering my comments
W2iPWujuGrI-00448-00109279-00109463 um i can see that over the next couple
W2iPWujuGrI-00449-00109464-00109671 of months you'll be inundated with data
W2iPWujuGrI-00450-00109672-00109990 and opinions about the tcaa
W2iPWujuGrI-00451-00109991-00110215 today i don't want to comment on what's
W2iPWujuGrI-00452-00110216-00110383 in the tcaa
W2iPWujuGrI-00453-00110383-00110734 but rather than what is not in the tcaa
W2iPWujuGrI-00454-00110735-00110958 this study has been done before at least
W2iPWujuGrI-00455-00110959-00111110 one similar
W2iPWujuGrI-00456-00111111-00111486 as mr pico just mentioned the 1998
W2iPWujuGrI-00457-00111488-00111807 uh major transportation investment study
W2iPWujuGrI-00458-00111808-00112063 was completed by the rtc it too
W2iPWujuGrI-00459-00112064-00112327 evaluated a list of transit alternatives
W2iPWujuGrI-00460-00112328-00112502 on the corridor as well as
W2iPWujuGrI-00461-00112503-00112790 highway one and uh the study is
W2iPWujuGrI-00462-00112791-00112854 mentioned
W2iPWujuGrI-00463-00112855-00113158 in the tca on page one six but its
W2iPWujuGrI-00464-00113159-00113375 conclusions are not addressed
W2iPWujuGrI-00465-00113376-00113654 uh the mtis consultants recommended a
W2iPWujuGrI-00466-00113655-00113710 com
W2iPWujuGrI-00467-00113711-00114110 a combined bikeway and a bus way
W2iPWujuGrI-00468-00114111-00114502 in fact um the bus route in the mtis
W2iPWujuGrI-00469-00114503-00114883 is very similar to the brt route in the
W2iPWujuGrI-00470-00114883-00115271 tcaa also recommended in the mtis
W2iPWujuGrI-00471-00115272-00115558 short term was weekend recreational rail
W2iPWujuGrI-00472-00115559-00115647 service
W2iPWujuGrI-00473-00115648-00115823 to test the market for future
W2iPWujuGrI-00474-00115824-00115958 possibilities
W2iPWujuGrI-00475-00115959-00116283 and one that required minimal investment
W2iPWujuGrI-00476-00116283-00116439 costs
W2iPWujuGrI-00477-00116440-00116766 in 2003 the rtc investigated
W2iPWujuGrI-00478-00116767-00117039 recreational rail options and proposed
W2iPWujuGrI-00479-00117040-00117207 the village cruiser
W2iPWujuGrI-00480-00117208-00117431 a weekend trolley to run between capitol
W2iPWujuGrI-00481-00117432-00117615 and aptos
W2iPWujuGrI-00482-00117616-00117902 it is mentioned by the way that in 2002
W2iPWujuGrI-00483-00117903-00118102 staff and consultants discussed
W2iPWujuGrI-00484-00118103-00118471 prop 116 requirements with ctc
W2iPWujuGrI-00485-00118472-00118686 and it was stated that even a limited
W2iPWujuGrI-00486-00118688-00118958 excursion service may be sufficient to
W2iPWujuGrI-00487-00118959-00119390 access the prop 116 funds
W2iPWujuGrI-00488-00119391-00119710 so i couldn't find uh and final eir
W2iPWujuGrI-00489-00119711-00119958 on the project so i'm assuming that it
W2iPWujuGrI-00490-00119959-00120119 didn't get that far but
W2iPWujuGrI-00491-00120120-00120534 the 2005 draft included suggestions
W2iPWujuGrI-00492-00120535-00120807 for noise mitigating techniques such as
W2iPWujuGrI-00493-00120808-00121023 providing nearby homes with dual pane
W2iPWujuGrI-00494-00121024-00121375 windows and insulation so i'm assuming
W2iPWujuGrI-00495-00121376-00121486 it didn't
W2iPWujuGrI-00496-00121488-00121783 wasn't received well of course we see
W2iPWujuGrI-00497-00121783-00121990 the project was never implemented nor
W2iPWujuGrI-00498-00121991-00122334 was it discussed why in the tcaa
W2iPWujuGrI-00499-00122335-00122654 so finally the bus was recommended but
W2iPWujuGrI-00500-00122655-00122790 not implemented
W2iPWujuGrI-00501-00122791-00123039 recreational rail was recommended but
W2iPWujuGrI-00502-00123040-00123207 not implemented
W2iPWujuGrI-00503-00123208-00123414 we didn't get to test the rail market
W2iPWujuGrI-00504-00123415-00123566 but now the commission
W2iPWujuGrI-00505-00123567-00123758 seems faced with an all-or-nothing
W2iPWujuGrI-00506-00123759-00123910 project
W2iPWujuGrI-00507-00123911-00124039 i hope that you'll look back and
W2iPWujuGrI-00508-00124040-00124223 consider past studies
W2iPWujuGrI-00509-00124224-00124486 public sentiment and the strong desire
W2iPWujuGrI-00510-00124488-00124654 for an adequate trail
W2iPWujuGrI-00511-00124655-00124966 as you move forward and evaluate the the
W2iPWujuGrI-00512-00124967-00125014 data
W2iPWujuGrI-00513-00125015-00125366 in the tcaa and before ultimately
W2iPWujuGrI-00514-00125367-00125566 you make your decision thank you for
W2iPWujuGrI-00515-00125567-00125823 your consideration
W2iPWujuGrI-00516-00125824-00126390 mr barry scott
W2iPWujuGrI-00517-00126391-00126719 yes thank you um i want to first
W2iPWujuGrI-00518-00126720-00126966 thank uh the commissioners who are are
W2iPWujuGrI-00519-00126967-00127095 terming out for their
W2iPWujuGrI-00520-00127096-00127327 their service you'll be missed and your
W2iPWujuGrI-00521-00127328-00127486 work is appreciated
W2iPWujuGrI-00522-00127488-00127807 i want to uh congratulate the rtc staff
W2iPWujuGrI-00523-00127808-00128054 for the 107.2 million dollar
W2iPWujuGrI-00524-00128055-00128407 grant uh package of uh
W2iPWujuGrI-00525-00128408-00128734 that will fund improvements on on
W2iPWujuGrI-00526-00128735-00129031 really all three corridors i think and
W2iPWujuGrI-00527-00129032-00129207 then i want to speak to the
W2iPWujuGrI-00528-00129208-00129719 the tcaa and and point out that
W2iPWujuGrI-00529-00129720-00129990 you know we build infrastructure in in
W2iPWujuGrI-00530-00129991-00130254 advance of future needs
W2iPWujuGrI-00531-00130255-00130599 not past needs or even current needs
W2iPWujuGrI-00532-00130600-00130983 and all of the all of the data
W2iPWujuGrI-00533-00130983-00131278 relating to climate change indicates we
W2iPWujuGrI-00534-00131279-00131463 need more active transportation
W2iPWujuGrI-00535-00131464-00131766 and much more public transit
W2iPWujuGrI-00536-00131767-00132207 robo cars and this kind of technological
W2iPWujuGrI-00537-00132208-00132502 uh what are called improvements by an
W2iPWujuGrI-00538-00132503-00132678 automobile sector
W2iPWujuGrI-00539-00132679-00132839 are not really improvements at all they
W2iPWujuGrI-00540-00132840-00133007 don't they don't come close to
W2iPWujuGrI-00541-00133008-00133383 providing what public transit provides
W2iPWujuGrI-00542-00133384-00133814 and connecting to to watsonville
W2iPWujuGrI-00543-00133815-00134223 is a paramount importance
W2iPWujuGrI-00544-00134224-00134478 what what we need is to improve our
W2iPWujuGrI-00545-00134479-00134639 metro support our metro
W2iPWujuGrI-00546-00134640-00134935 we need our coastal rail trail and all
W2iPWujuGrI-00547-00134936-00134983 of us
W2iPWujuGrI-00548-00134984-00135254 and especially south county deserve some
W2iPWujuGrI-00549-00135255-00135366 kind of transit
W2iPWujuGrI-00550-00135367-00135727 on a dedicated rail line
W2iPWujuGrI-00551-00135728-00135919 my neighbors who are concerned about
W2iPWujuGrI-00552-00135920-00136039 costs
W2iPWujuGrI-00553-00136040-00136399 conveniently use the worst case scenario
W2iPWujuGrI-00554-00136400-00136711 price packages for large commuter rail
W2iPWujuGrI-00555-00136712-00136919 or diesel multiple unit systems they
W2iPWujuGrI-00556-00136920-00137111 talk about the smart train
W2iPWujuGrI-00557-00137112-00137414 a 79 mile an hour really
W2iPWujuGrI-00558-00137415-00137751 comparatively huge system that doesn't
W2iPWujuGrI-00559-00137752-00137814 really
W2iPWujuGrI-00560-00137815-00138135 in my opinion belong here we have never
W2iPWujuGrI-00561-00138136-00138199 yet
W2iPWujuGrI-00562-00138200-00138495 received any kind of a proposal that
W2iPWujuGrI-00563-00138496-00138551 might be
W2iPWujuGrI-00564-00138552-00138999 for light battery electric street cars
W2iPWujuGrI-00565-00139000-00139335 that you know that enjoy high capacity
W2iPWujuGrI-00566-00139336-00139639 and can connect to uh watsonville
W2iPWujuGrI-00567-00139640-00139927 you know it's not a either or trail or
W2iPWujuGrI-00568-00139928-00139983 rail
W2iPWujuGrI-00569-00139984-00140311 and it's not an either or trail or bus
W2iPWujuGrI-00570-00140312-00140566 what we need to do is go for all of the
W2iPWujuGrI-00571-00140567-00140702 above
W2iPWujuGrI-00572-00140703-00140951 we may not get everything that we ask
W2iPWujuGrI-00573-00140952-00141054 for
W2iPWujuGrI-00574-00141055-00141327 but we should try and again
W2iPWujuGrI-00575-00141328-00141566 congratulations to the rtc staff
W2iPWujuGrI-00576-00141567-00141743 and thanks to those commissioners who
W2iPWujuGrI-00577-00141744-00141911 are who are leading us
W2iPWujuGrI-00578-00141912-00142295 thank you commissioner mcpherson that
W2iPWujuGrI-00579-00142296-00142847 was the last comment
W2iPWujuGrI-00580-00142848-00143175 you're on mute yeah got it i'm back okay
W2iPWujuGrI-00581-00143176-00143487 um we will go to item number three
W2iPWujuGrI-00582-00143488-00143743 uh are there any additions or deletions
W2iPWujuGrI-00583-00143744-00143935 to the consent or regular agendas by
W2iPWujuGrI-00584-00143936-00144263 the community um there's only uh
W2iPWujuGrI-00585-00144264-00144535 replacement pages for item 21 and a
W2iPWujuGrI-00586-00144536-00144687 handout for item
W2iPWujuGrI-00587-00144688-00145007 19. okay very well
W2iPWujuGrI-00588-00145008-00145166 okay and i think we should everybody
W2iPWujuGrI-00589-00145167-00145263 should have gotten those on the
W2iPWujuGrI-00590-00145264-00145359 commission
W2iPWujuGrI-00591-00145360-00145751 um we will move now to the consent agent
W2iPWujuGrI-00592-00145752-00145951 agenda that begins with the minutes on
W2iPWujuGrI-00593-00145952-00146175 item number four through item number
W2iPWujuGrI-00594-00146176-00146575 uh 16 uh is there anybody who would like
W2iPWujuGrI-00595-00146576-00146639 to pull
W2iPWujuGrI-00596-00146640-00146839 any or comment on anything briefly on
W2iPWujuGrI-00597-00146840-00147263 the consent agenda or pull it
W2iPWujuGrI-00598-00147264-00147495 are there any comments from the public
W2iPWujuGrI-00599-00147496-00147663 on any items that are on the consent
W2iPWujuGrI-00600-00147664-00147966 agenda
W2iPWujuGrI-00601-00147967-00148711 we have two comments uh miss arnold
W2iPWujuGrI-00602-00148712-00148902 hi sally arnold again friends of the
W2iPWujuGrI-00603-00148903-00149175 rail and trail um i just wanted to say
W2iPWujuGrI-00604-00149176-00149311 that friends of the rail and trail
W2iPWujuGrI-00605-00149312-00149543 support both items six and seven on the
W2iPWujuGrI-00606-00149544-00149687 consent agenda
W2iPWujuGrI-00607-00149688-00149902 the rtc and federal highways
W2iPWujuGrI-00608-00149903-00150102 administration central federal lands
W2iPWujuGrI-00609-00150103-00150190 agreement
W2iPWujuGrI-00610-00150191-00150431 an amendment for the north coast trail
W2iPWujuGrI-00611-00150432-00150566 project so of course we're you know
W2iPWujuGrI-00612-00150567-00150751 supportive of getting that
W2iPWujuGrI-00613-00150752-00150959 north coast trail project going as fast
W2iPWujuGrI-00614-00150960-00151119 as we can and number seven
W2iPWujuGrI-00615-00151120-00151295 santa cruz county regional conservation
W2iPWujuGrI-00616-00151296-00151471 investment strategy update an amendment
W2iPWujuGrI-00617-00151472-00151590 to the agreements
W2iPWujuGrI-00618-00151591-00151902 um we also of course support anything
W2iPWujuGrI-00619-00151903-00151999 that's going to be
W2iPWujuGrI-00620-00152000-00152295 uh uh moving those things along so we
W2iPWujuGrI-00621-00152296-00152414 want to thank you very much
W2iPWujuGrI-00622-00152415-00152614 and uh and we hope that you will of
W2iPWujuGrI-00623-00152615-00152823 course adopt both numbers six and seven
W2iPWujuGrI-00624-00152824-00153039 on the consent agenda thank you
W2iPWujuGrI-00625-00153040-00153983 thank you mr brian peoples
W2iPWujuGrI-00626-00153984-00154343 yeah hi this is brian can you share my
W2iPWujuGrI-00627-00154344-00154775 slide it's brian peeples with trail now
W2iPWujuGrI-00628-00154776-00155014 the north coast rail trail is an
W2iPWujuGrI-00629-00155015-00155271 important recreational trail
W2iPWujuGrI-00630-00155272-00155607 for our community recent cost
W2iPWujuGrI-00631-00155608-00155990 increases are very concerning especially
W2iPWujuGrI-00632-00155991-00156102 when because of
W2iPWujuGrI-00633-00156103-00156319 it could result in the loss of the
W2iPWujuGrI-00634-00156320-00156439 federal grant
W2iPWujuGrI-00635-00156440-00156775 funds and the rtc needs to prevent
W2iPWujuGrI-00636-00156776-00157126 this loss building the trail next to the
W2iPWujuGrI-00637-00157127-00157183 tracks
W2iPWujuGrI-00638-00157184-00157487 costs millions more than a simple trail
W2iPWujuGrI-00639-00157488-00157814 building the trail uh along the tracks
W2iPWujuGrI-00640-00157815-00158143 this is millions more is a reason we may
W2iPWujuGrI-00641-00158144-00158214 lose
W2iPWujuGrI-00642-00158215-00158511 the federal grant the cost increases the
W2iPWujuGrI-00643-00158512-00158687 photo that you see here is
W2iPWujuGrI-00644-00158688-00158935 uh congressman jimmy panetta with the
W2iPWujuGrI-00645-00158936-00159054 north coast
W2iPWujuGrI-00646-00159055-00159343 farmers uh where jimmy and farmers are
W2iPWujuGrI-00647-00159344-00159511 located they're on the hayride and
W2iPWujuGrI-00648-00159512-00159671 that's actually where the trail is
W2iPWujuGrI-00649-00159672-00159863 supposed to go the proposed trail you
W2iPWujuGrI-00650-00159864-00159975 can see the
W2iPWujuGrI-00651-00159976-00160311 the trail will destroy a significant
W2iPWujuGrI-00652-00160312-00160519 amount of farmland
W2iPWujuGrI-00653-00160520-00160743 meanwhile on the right you see the old
W2iPWujuGrI-00654-00160744-00160823 tracks
W2iPWujuGrI-00655-00160824-00161143 that are mostly buried and unused
W2iPWujuGrI-00656-00161144-00161551 and being reserved for a commuter train
W2iPWujuGrI-00657-00161552-00161847 um the cost of building a trail where
W2iPWujuGrI-00658-00161848-00162054 the tracks are located is millions
W2iPWujuGrI-00659-00162055-00162119 dollars
W2iPWujuGrI-00660-00162120-00162351 less than building a trail through the
W2iPWujuGrI-00661-00162352-00162471 farmland
W2iPWujuGrI-00662-00162472-00162799 the eir report showed that there was
W2iPWujuGrI-00663-00162800-00163119 no difference in uh the two
W2iPWujuGrI-00664-00163120-00163335 options of the trail through the through
W2iPWujuGrI-00665-00163336-00163519 the farmland or
W2iPWujuGrI-00666-00163520-00163766 or the trail where the tracks are the
W2iPWujuGrI-00667-00163767-00163959 difference actually one of the things
W2iPWujuGrI-00668-00163960-00163999 that the
W2iPWujuGrI-00669-00164000-00164231 ir called out was they called the the
W2iPWujuGrI-00670-00164232-00164423 track historical
W2iPWujuGrI-00671-00164424-00164735 now that the no historical society said
W2iPWujuGrI-00672-00164736-00164799 that
W2iPWujuGrI-00673-00164800-00165159 that it was historical um and the eir
W2iPWujuGrI-00674-00165160-00165423 actually said that that would not
W2iPWujuGrI-00675-00165424-00165511 prevent
W2iPWujuGrI-00676-00165512-00165831 the removal of the tracks removal of the
W2iPWujuGrI-00677-00165832-00166031 tracks
W2iPWujuGrI-00678-00166032-00166351 is uh very common and sometimes what you
W2iPWujuGrI-00679-00166352-00166623 find very often is a contamination of
W2iPWujuGrI-00680-00166624-00166726 heavy metals and
W2iPWujuGrI-00681-00166727-00167038 arsenic um so the
W2iPWujuGrI-00682-00167039-00167335 cost of doing that site remediation
W2iPWujuGrI-00683-00167336-00167454 actually would not be
W2iPWujuGrI-00684-00167455-00167719 more expensive than build than building
W2iPWujuGrI-00685-00167720-00167919 the trail next to the tracks it's very
W2iPWujuGrI-00686-00167920-00168111 common and what's interesting is
W2iPWujuGrI-00687-00168112-00168366 that we're building a trail and if if we
W2iPWujuGrI-00688-00168367-00168590 truly do have arsenic and metal
W2iPWujuGrI-00689-00168591-00168831 in the tracks uh we should probably
W2iPWujuGrI-00690-00168832-00168966 remove that
W2iPWujuGrI-00691-00168967-00169271 um panetta's uh and the farmers
W2iPWujuGrI-00692-00169272-00169726 clearly um it's illogical to be building
W2iPWujuGrI-00693-00169727-00169854 a trail
W2iPWujuGrI-00694-00169855-00170054 in the farmland rather than where the
W2iPWujuGrI-00695-00170055-00170190 old tracks are
W2iPWujuGrI-00696-00170191-00170414 uh there's no reason to keep the old
W2iPWujuGrI-00697-00170415-00170511 tracks
W2iPWujuGrI-00698-00170512-00170854 uh but now there is a reason to pull the
W2iPWujuGrI-00699-00170855-00170919 tracks
W2iPWujuGrI-00700-00170920-00171166 so we don't lose the federal grant we're
W2iPWujuGrI-00701-00171167-00171359 going to lose the federal grant funds
W2iPWujuGrI-00702-00171360-00171519 because the price
W2iPWujuGrI-00703-00171520-00171823 continues to escalate we're asking
W2iPWujuGrI-00704-00171824-00172214 the rtc to change directions
W2iPWujuGrI-00705-00172215-00172566 we need to change directions now nobody
W2iPWujuGrI-00706-00172567-00172854 should claim that our design
W2iPWujuGrI-00707-00172855-00173087 is already complete because when we do
W2iPWujuGrI-00708-00173088-00173247 construction when you do
W2iPWujuGrI-00709-00173248-00173478 manufacturing of any sort design is less
W2iPWujuGrI-00710-00173479-00173623 than one percent of actual
W2iPWujuGrI-00711-00173624-00173983 cost so and also the project is delayed
W2iPWujuGrI-00712-00173984-00174190 to 2025.
W2iPWujuGrI-00713-00174191-00174551 so we absolutely need to
W2iPWujuGrI-00714-00174552-00174847 move forward and change directions and
W2iPWujuGrI-00715-00174848-00175078 oh by the way i saw jimmy the other
W2iPWujuGrI-00716-00175079-00175375 uh not too long ago and jimmy's response
W2iPWujuGrI-00717-00175376-00175583 was he's watching this
W2iPWujuGrI-00718-00175584-00175807 um jimmy of course gets all of our
W2iPWujuGrI-00719-00175808-00175911 newsletters
W2iPWujuGrI-00720-00175912-00176223 and our emails um we know jimmy
W2iPWujuGrI-00721-00176224-00176502 so you're being watched we're being
W2iPWujuGrI-00722-00176503-00176663 watched and we're asking you
W2iPWujuGrI-00723-00176664-00176919 to be disciplined with our funds we
W2iPWujuGrI-00724-00176920-00177014 don't need
W2iPWujuGrI-00725-00177015-00177502 a commuter train to davenport thank you
W2iPWujuGrI-00726-00177503-00177663 those were the last of the comments
W2iPWujuGrI-00727-00177664-00177926 commissioner i removed the consent
W2iPWujuGrI-00728-00177927-00178078 agenda
W2iPWujuGrI-00729-00178079-00178343 all right it moved do i have a second a
W2iPWujuGrI-00730-00178344-00178495 second
W2iPWujuGrI-00731-00178496-00178783 second by mr gonzalez uh please call
W2iPWujuGrI-00732-00178784-00178807 them
W2iPWujuGrI-00733-00178808-00179126 i make one comment um and that is uh on
W2iPWujuGrI-00734-00179127-00179319 the north coast rail trail
W2iPWujuGrI-00735-00179320-00179599 the surest way to lose the federal grant
W2iPWujuGrI-00736-00179600-00179871 is to change the project at this point
W2iPWujuGrI-00737-00179872-00180207 so i think it's um it's clear and the
W2iPWujuGrI-00738-00180208-00180454 commission's very aware of all the
W2iPWujuGrI-00739-00180455-00180711 issues that it's been dealing with to
W2iPWujuGrI-00740-00180712-00180831 get this far
W2iPWujuGrI-00741-00180832-00181166 and we're very close to going before the
W2iPWujuGrI-00742-00181167-00181351 coastal commission to get a consistency
W2iPWujuGrI-00743-00181352-00181495 determination
W2iPWujuGrI-00744-00181496-00181831 um and this is the
W2iPWujuGrI-00745-00181832-00181983 this is the project that's been through
W2iPWujuGrI-00746-00181984-00182311 the eir and has been approved
W2iPWujuGrI-00747-00182312-00182575 to change it at this point would be
W2iPWujuGrI-00748-00182576-00182638 essentially
W2iPWujuGrI-00749-00182639-00182990 to lose the federal money thank you
W2iPWujuGrI-00750-00182991-00183166 thank you okay we have a promotion a
W2iPWujuGrI-00751-00183167-00183390 second to approve the consent agenda
W2iPWujuGrI-00752-00183391-00183671 uh please call the roll commissioner
W2iPWujuGrI-00753-00183672-00183999 brown
W2iPWujuGrI-00754-00184000-00184959 aye commission alternate tim
W2iPWujuGrI-00755-00184960-00185295 you get that eye commissioner kaufman
W2iPWujuGrI-00756-00185296-00185438 gomez
W2iPWujuGrI-00757-00185439-00185766 yes commissioner cappet
W2iPWujuGrI-00758-00185767-00186135 aye commission alternate chef friend aye
W2iPWujuGrI-00759-00186136-00186438 commission alternate mulhern hi
W2iPWujuGrI-00760-00186439-00186743 commissioner leopold aye commissioner
W2iPWujuGrI-00761-00186744-00186847 mcpherson
W2iPWujuGrI-00762-00186848-00187166 aye commissioner botorf aye
W2iPWujuGrI-00763-00187167-00187543 commissioner gonzalez
W2iPWujuGrI-00764-00187544-00187999 aye in commission alternate lynn aye
W2iPWujuGrI-00765-00188000-00188271 that's unanimous you passed unanimously
W2iPWujuGrI-00766-00188272-00188311 uh
W2iPWujuGrI-00767-00188312-00188535 we will move on to the regular agenda
W2iPWujuGrI-00768-00188536-00188775 item number 17 commissioner reports uh
W2iPWujuGrI-00769-00188776-00188831 any
W2iPWujuGrI-00770-00188832-00189095 oral reports and i just um we're going
W2iPWujuGrI-00771-00189096-00189271 to hear from our executive director in
W2iPWujuGrI-00772-00189272-00189431 just a moment and he'll get into more
W2iPWujuGrI-00773-00189432-00189502 detail
W2iPWujuGrI-00774-00189503-00189671 on the grant that was just awarded by
W2iPWujuGrI-00775-00189672-00189854 the california transportation commission
W2iPWujuGrI-00776-00189855-00190078 yesterday which is phenomenal
W2iPWujuGrI-00777-00190079-00190247 and uh just there's going to be some
W2iPWujuGrI-00778-00190248-00190543 nice words that reservedly so for these
W2iPWujuGrI-00779-00190544-00190783 three retiring commissioners uh but
W2iPWujuGrI-00780-00190784-00191023 any other oral commissioner reports mr
W2iPWujuGrI-00781-00191024-00191254 mulher
W2iPWujuGrI-00782-00191255-00191463 thank you chair i i don't want to steal
W2iPWujuGrI-00783-00191464-00191678 any of mr preston's thunder on the
W2iPWujuGrI-00784-00191679-00192007 ctc grant but i i want to extend my
W2iPWujuGrI-00785-00192008-00192302 highest praise to uh guy and his team
W2iPWujuGrI-00786-00192303-00192463 for securing this grant
W2iPWujuGrI-00787-00192464-00192814 um and for really i guess
W2iPWujuGrI-00788-00192815-00193166 converting on the promise of the ucis
W2iPWujuGrI-00789-00193167-00193343 the reason i supported the ucis was
W2iPWujuGrI-00790-00193344-00193535 because having a
W2iPWujuGrI-00791-00193536-00193838 a corridor study in place made the
W2iPWujuGrI-00792-00193839-00194231 rtc eligible for a new grant that was
W2iPWujuGrI-00793-00194232-00194535 enacted under sb1 the solutions fork and
W2iPWujuGrI-00794-00194536-00194702 congested corridors program
W2iPWujuGrI-00795-00194703-00195023 there's a huge pot of money and we were
W2iPWujuGrI-00796-00195024-00195223 one of the few agencies that were going
W2iPWujuGrI-00797-00195224-00195399 to be eligible because we had a corridor
W2iPWujuGrI-00798-00195400-00195502 study
W2iPWujuGrI-00799-00195503-00195735 he jumped right on top of that organizes
W2iPWujuGrI-00800-00195736-00195838 people and
W2iPWujuGrI-00801-00195839-00195999 went through the application process
W2iPWujuGrI-00802-00196000-00196150 with ctc staff
W2iPWujuGrI-00803-00196151-00196478 and delivered an incredible multi-modal
W2iPWujuGrI-00804-00196479-00196599 project that is
W2iPWujuGrI-00805-00196600-00196966 going to to provide
W2iPWujuGrI-00806-00196967-00197175 all of the features that we look for in
W2iPWujuGrI-00807-00197176-00197302 our transportation
W2iPWujuGrI-00808-00197303-00197590 infrastructure development these days it
W2iPWujuGrI-00809-00197591-00197654 provides
W2iPWujuGrI-00810-00197655-00197895 a reduction in greenhouse gas emissions
W2iPWujuGrI-00811-00197896-00198087 vehicle miles traveled
W2iPWujuGrI-00812-00198088-00198343 it provides that important alternative
W2iPWujuGrI-00813-00198344-00198535 to single occupancy vehicles
W2iPWujuGrI-00814-00198536-00198799 with five miles of buffered or protected
W2iPWujuGrI-00815-00198800-00198983 bike lanes on socal
W2iPWujuGrI-00816-00198984-00199159 two pedestrian and bicycle over
W2iPWujuGrI-00817-00199160-00199383 crossings um over highway one
W2iPWujuGrI-00818-00199384-00199535 it's j and then of course bus on
W2iPWujuGrI-00819-00199536-00199678 shoulder which which is novel in
W2iPWujuGrI-00820-00199679-00199775 california where
W2iPWujuGrI-00821-00199776-00199990 i think the only agency that's gonna be
W2iPWujuGrI-00822-00199991-00200175 delivering that sort of project
W2iPWujuGrI-00823-00200176-00200399 um in the state of california it's just
W2iPWujuGrI-00824-00200400-00200543 all around uh this is
W2iPWujuGrI-00825-00200544-00200854 a stellar uh reckoning for the rtc
W2iPWujuGrI-00826-00200855-00201014 and i'm glad to see all of our work
W2iPWujuGrI-00827-00201015-00201271 coming into fruition i'm sorry um i also
W2iPWujuGrI-00828-00201272-00201543 want to make the point that that
W2iPWujuGrI-00829-00201544-00201807 although it includes some highway work
W2iPWujuGrI-00830-00201808-00201975 and road work and
W2iPWujuGrI-00831-00201976-00202223 cars are going to benefit the real
W2iPWujuGrI-00832-00202224-00202414 benefactors of this project are going to
W2iPWujuGrI-00833-00202415-00202511 be the
W2iPWujuGrI-00834-00202512-00202735 beneficiaries rather of this project are
W2iPWujuGrI-00835-00202736-00202926 going to be transit users
W2iPWujuGrI-00836-00202927-00203126 especially in south county we're going
W2iPWujuGrI-00837-00203127-00203302 to have dedicated uh
W2iPWujuGrI-00838-00203303-00203550 bike lane bus on shoulder lanes we're
W2iPWujuGrI-00839-00203551-00203702 going to have
W2iPWujuGrI-00840-00203703-00204038 a transit signal priority at over 20
W2iPWujuGrI-00841-00204039-00204295 um signals along soquel so the buses
W2iPWujuGrI-00842-00204296-00204431 will have priority when they go through
W2iPWujuGrI-00843-00204432-00204599 those intersections it's just
W2iPWujuGrI-00844-00204600-00204806 amazing this is some 21st century
W2iPWujuGrI-00845-00204807-00204934 infrastructure development so thank you
W2iPWujuGrI-00846-00204935-00204982 very much
W2iPWujuGrI-00847-00204983-00205086 everyone for all of your work and
W2iPWujuGrI-00848-00205087-00205286 getting this done
W2iPWujuGrI-00849-00205287-00205598 any other commercial comments uh chair
W2iPWujuGrI-00850-00205600-00205766 would this be an appropriate time to say
W2iPWujuGrI-00851-00205767-00205886 something or
W2iPWujuGrI-00852-00205887-00206246 as some remarks about my tenure on there
W2iPWujuGrI-00853-00206248-00206375 or is there going to be something
W2iPWujuGrI-00854-00206376-00206638 later yeah mr preston's going to mention
W2iPWujuGrI-00855-00206639-00206703 all three
W2iPWujuGrI-00856-00206704-00207086 of the retirees so to speak
W2iPWujuGrI-00857-00207087-00207519 then i'll wait okay thank you um
W2iPWujuGrI-00858-00207519-00207798 yeah i just wanted uh well i i can't
W2iPWujuGrI-00859-00207800-00207990 over uh emphasize
W2iPWujuGrI-00860-00207991-00208310 the uh the great work that our staff did
W2iPWujuGrI-00861-00208311-00208534 that needs to be recognized uh mr
W2iPWujuGrI-00862-00208535-00208646 president will be soon
W2iPWujuGrI-00863-00208648-00208879 talking about the grant but what a
W2iPWujuGrI-00864-00208880-00208958 phenomenal
W2iPWujuGrI-00865-00208959-00209262 teamwork effort it was and to meet the
W2iPWujuGrI-00866-00209263-00209503 objectives of this commission when we
W2iPWujuGrI-00867-00209504-00209575 set out
W2iPWujuGrI-00868-00209576-00209815 measure d and we try to alleviate the
W2iPWujuGrI-00869-00209816-00210006 traffic situations throughout santa cruz
W2iPWujuGrI-00870-00210007-00210110 county
W2iPWujuGrI-00871-00210111-00210455 very very well said uh patrick
W2iPWujuGrI-00872-00210456-00210615 there are any other oral reports from
W2iPWujuGrI-00873-00210616-00210910 commissioners i see none
W2iPWujuGrI-00874-00210911-00211158 we will move to item number 18 and that
W2iPWujuGrI-00875-00211159-00211327 is the election of the
W2iPWujuGrI-00876-00211328-00211727 2020 rttc chair and vice chair
W2iPWujuGrI-00877-00211728-00211927 i will give this report we had a
W2iPWujuGrI-00878-00211928-00212063 subcommittee
W2iPWujuGrI-00879-00212064-00212375 and we have recommended that i'll get
W2iPWujuGrI-00880-00212376-00212527 right to the point
W2iPWujuGrI-00881-00212528-00212742 that the vice chair of rio rodriguez of
W2iPWujuGrI-00882-00212744-00212871 watsonville to be
W2iPWujuGrI-00883-00212871-00213223 uh the watsonville city council be
W2iPWujuGrI-00884-00213223-00213542 named chair for 2021
W2iPWujuGrI-00885-00213544-00213855 and that santa cruz city councilwoman
W2iPWujuGrI-00886-00213856-00214046 sandy brown be the vice chair now this
W2iPWujuGrI-00887-00214048-00214239 is a little different we usually go city
W2iPWujuGrI-00888-00214240-00214398 county city county
W2iPWujuGrI-00889-00214400-00214671 but when uh it was i think cynthia chase
W2iPWujuGrI-00890-00214671-00214719 left
W2iPWujuGrI-00891-00214719-00214942 and it was santa cruz city's turn to be
W2iPWujuGrI-00892-00214944-00215039 chair
W2iPWujuGrI-00893-00215040-00215310 uh that was uh pushed over to be mr
W2iPWujuGrI-00894-00215311-00215510 botorf last year
W2iPWujuGrI-00895-00215511-00215791 and so we think that the committee
W2iPWujuGrI-00896-00215792-00215927 thought it was correct to have
W2iPWujuGrI-00897-00215928-00216031 even though it's two city
W2iPWujuGrI-00898-00216032-00216263 representatives to let santa cruz city
W2iPWujuGrI-00899-00216264-00216423 have its representation on the
W2iPWujuGrI-00900-00216423-00216551 chairmanship of the
W2iPWujuGrI-00901-00216552-00216863 commission um and so we recommend that
W2iPWujuGrI-00902-00216864-00217703 radio rodriguez be the chair and
W2iPWujuGrI-00903-00217704-00217951 excuse me did i say that again gosh darn
W2iPWujuGrI-00904-00217952-00218039 it i'm sorry
W2iPWujuGrI-00905-00218040-00218351 i i uh thank you uh i'll just say it
W2iPWujuGrI-00906-00218352-00218471 with that aurelio b
W2iPWujuGrI-00907-00218471-00218734 chair and that standy brown be vice
W2iPWujuGrI-00908-00218735-00218782 chair
W2iPWujuGrI-00909-00218783-00218967 and i would open it up to any other
W2iPWujuGrI-00910-00218967-00219103 comments of people who might be
W2iPWujuGrI-00911-00219104-00219271 interested in recommending
W2iPWujuGrI-00912-00219271-00219591 someone else to one of those physicians
W2iPWujuGrI-00913-00219592-00219871 there any other recommend yes i i'm
W2iPWujuGrI-00914-00219871-00219951 ready to move
W2iPWujuGrI-00915-00219952-00220310 for that before uh i retire out
W2iPWujuGrI-00916-00220311-00220727 but um i'll wait for comment
W2iPWujuGrI-00917-00220728-00221391 okay does anybody else have a comment
W2iPWujuGrI-00918-00221392-00221527 we've seen that on
W2iPWujuGrI-00919-00221528-00221703 okay i think miss kaufman gomez would
W2iPWujuGrI-00920-00221704-00221951 like to make a motion to
W2iPWujuGrI-00921-00221952-00222206 uh well you make the motion uh for mr
W2iPWujuGrI-00922-00222207-00222303 gonzalez
W2iPWujuGrI-00923-00222304-00222623 and uh miss brown please yes i so
W2iPWujuGrI-00924-00222623-00222894 move the chair to be aurelio and the
W2iPWujuGrI-00925-00222896-00223087 vice chair to be sandy brown thank you
W2iPWujuGrI-00926-00223088-00223415 second second by shiffrin uh we'll call
W2iPWujuGrI-00927-00223416-00223687 the rule
W2iPWujuGrI-00928-00223688-00223871 mission alternatively are there any
W2iPWujuGrI-00929-00223871-00224039 community uh comments maybe we should
W2iPWujuGrI-00930-00224040-00224134 have that on this
W2iPWujuGrI-00931-00224135-00224391 as well no community we don't have any
W2iPWujuGrI-00932-00224392-00224542 comments commissioner okay
W2iPWujuGrI-00933-00224544-00224823 all right please call the rule uh
W2iPWujuGrI-00934-00224823-00224975 commission alternate lin
W2iPWujuGrI-00935-00224976-00225287 aye commissioner gonzalez
W2iPWujuGrI-00936-00225288-00225655 hi commissioner botorf aye
W2iPWujuGrI-00937-00225656-00225951 commissioner mcpherson aye commissioner
W2iPWujuGrI-00938-00225952-00226039 leopold
W2iPWujuGrI-00939-00226040-00226439 aye commissioner alternate mulhern
W2iPWujuGrI-00940-00226440-00226871 aye commissioner alternate shifrin aye
W2iPWujuGrI-00941-00226871-00227215 commissioner kaepern
W2iPWujuGrI-00942-00227216-00227615 commissioner kaufman gomez
W2iPWujuGrI-00943-00227616-00227934 yes commission alternate tim
W2iPWujuGrI-00944-00227935-00228287 hi commissioner brown
W2iPWujuGrI-00945-00228288-00228719 i that passes unanimously thank you
W2iPWujuGrI-00946-00228719-00229015 um and congratulations to each of you
W2iPWujuGrI-00947-00229016-00229206 and have a great holiday season because
W2iPWujuGrI-00948-00229207-00229551 2021's coming up on uh thank you thank
W2iPWujuGrI-00949-00229552-00229582 you
W2iPWujuGrI-00950-00229583-00229782 uh congratulations mr gonzalez miss
W2iPWujuGrI-00951-00229783-00230031 brown uh now we will go to item number
W2iPWujuGrI-00952-00230032-00230119 uh 19
W2iPWujuGrI-00953-00230119-00230367 the director's report from our executive
W2iPWujuGrI-00954-00230367-00230655 director guy preston
W2iPWujuGrI-00955-00230656-00230855 thank you chair mcpherson and
W2iPWujuGrI-00956-00230856-00231015 commissioners um
W2iPWujuGrI-00957-00231016-00231327 i have a few announcements um starting
W2iPWujuGrI-00958-00231328-00231446 with uh rtc
W2iPWujuGrI-00959-00231448-00231606 and the city of santa cruz will be
W2iPWujuGrI-00960-00231607-00231823 hosting a virtual ribbon cutting
W2iPWujuGrI-00961-00231823-00232110 for segment seven phase one of the
W2iPWujuGrI-00962-00232111-00232223 coastal rail trail
W2iPWujuGrI-00963-00232223-00232542 on december 10th from 12 30 to 1 o'clock
W2iPWujuGrI-00964-00232544-00232942 via zoom the city of santa cruz website
W2iPWujuGrI-00965-00232944-00233142 has information on how to attend and i
W2iPWujuGrI-00966-00233144-00233319 have a link on my director's report to
W2iPWujuGrI-00967-00233319-00233487 that
W2iPWujuGrI-00968-00233488-00233623 my next announcement is regarding
W2iPWujuGrI-00969-00233623-00233927 highway 9 supervisor bruce mcpherson's
W2iPWujuGrI-00970-00233928-00234071 office
W2iPWujuGrI-00971-00234071-00234303 will host a virtual public meeting on
W2iPWujuGrI-00972-00234304-00234455 wednesday december 16
W2iPWujuGrI-00973-00234456-00234758 from 5 30 to 7. caltrans will update the
W2iPWujuGrI-00974-00234759-00234927 public on two of their recently
W2iPWujuGrI-00975-00234928-00235023 completed
W2iPWujuGrI-00976-00235023-00235310 project initiation documents or pids
W2iPWujuGrI-00977-00235311-00235471 including their safety pit
W2iPWujuGrI-00978-00235471-00235751 for bicycle and pedestrian access from
W2iPWujuGrI-00979-00235752-00235798 graham
W2iPWujuGrI-00980-00235800-00236094 hill road to the san lorenzo valley
W2iPWujuGrI-00981-00236096-00236294 school complex along highway 9
W2iPWujuGrI-00982-00236296-00236527 as well as their highway striping pit
W2iPWujuGrI-00983-00236528-00236719 for work throughout the san lorenzo
W2iPWujuGrI-00984-00236719-00236846 valley
W2iPWujuGrI-00985-00236848-00237023 there will also be another meeting i
W2iPWujuGrI-00986-00237023-00237127 believe it's actually going to be in
W2iPWujuGrI-00987-00237128-00237271 march 2021
W2iPWujuGrI-00988-00237271-00237503 to discuss caltrans highway 9 capital
W2iPWujuGrI-00989-00237504-00237631 maintenance pid
W2iPWujuGrI-00990-00237632-00237879 and the complete streets head please
W2iPWujuGrI-00991-00237880-00238158 visit rtc's website for more information
W2iPWujuGrI-00992-00238159-00238215 on
W2iPWujuGrI-00993-00238216-00238510 those meetings there's a link on my
W2iPWujuGrI-00994-00238511-00238615 director's report
W2iPWujuGrI-00995-00238616-00238934 and it's on the highway 9 page
W2iPWujuGrI-00996-00238935-00239094 and then the big announcement of the day
W2iPWujuGrI-00997-00239096-00239294 of course is the watsonville to santa
W2iPWujuGrI-00998-00239296-00239519 cruz multimodal corridor project
W2iPWujuGrI-00999-00239519-00239775 and this is for highway 1 and soquel
W2iPWujuGrI-01000-00239776-00239887 drive improvements
W2iPWujuGrI-01001-00239888-00240175 and the grant recommendation is now a
W2iPWujuGrI-01002-00240176-00240279 grant
W2iPWujuGrI-01003-00240280-00240710 award on november 16 2020 yesterday
W2iPWujuGrI-01004-00240711-00240998 late um about 5 30 pm the california
W2iPWujuGrI-01005-00241000-00241319 transportation commission staff
W2iPWujuGrI-01006-00241319-00241639 our commission actually approved staff's
W2iPWujuGrI-01007-00241640-00241958 recommendation for 107.2 million
W2iPWujuGrI-01008-00241959-00242423 in funding for the rtc's 150.6 million
W2iPWujuGrI-01009-00242423-00242687 watsonville to santa cruz multi-modal
W2iPWujuGrI-01010-00242688-00242871 corridor program
W2iPWujuGrI-01011-00242871-00243215 the cycle 2 project the ctc adopted the
W2iPWujuGrI-01012-00243216-00243391 recommendation on december
W2iPWujuGrI-01013-00243392-00243806 uh 2nd like i said last night um
W2iPWujuGrI-01014-00243807-00244175 and in attendance was chair mcpherson
W2iPWujuGrI-01015-00244176-00244455 and also supervisor friend who spoke on
W2iPWujuGrI-01016-00244456-00244615 behalf of the project and i want to
W2iPWujuGrI-01017-00244616-00244782 thank both commissioners for their
W2iPWujuGrI-01018-00244783-00244927 support
W2iPWujuGrI-01019-00244928-00245319 it was very much appreciated by
W2iPWujuGrI-01020-00245319-00245606 uh executive director mitch weiss he
W2iPWujuGrI-01021-00245607-00245798 contacted me after the meeting and said
W2iPWujuGrI-01022-00245800-00245934 we really
W2iPWujuGrI-01023-00245935-00246198 did a good great job as a team and
W2iPWujuGrI-01024-00246200-00246327 delivering our message to the
W2iPWujuGrI-01025-00246328-00246446 commissioners
W2iPWujuGrI-01026-00246448-00246798 i also want to thank ctc commissioner
W2iPWujuGrI-01027-00246800-00247119 carl gardino who um
W2iPWujuGrI-01028-00247119-00247351 talked about measure d and and the
W2iPWujuGrI-01029-00247352-00247534 passage of measure d and how
W2iPWujuGrI-01030-00247535-00247734 the program of projects that we
W2iPWujuGrI-01031-00247735-00248015 submitted was very much consistent with
W2iPWujuGrI-01032-00248016-00248342 our sales tax measure and and
W2iPWujuGrI-01033-00248344-00248542 the consensus that we build in passing
W2iPWujuGrI-01034-00248544-00248655 that
W2iPWujuGrI-01035-00248656-00248830 the project itself integrates and
W2iPWujuGrI-01036-00248831-00249023 improves infrastructure for transit
W2iPWujuGrI-01037-00249023-00249279 after transportation and local roadway
W2iPWujuGrI-01038-00249280-00249439 highway modes of travel
W2iPWujuGrI-01039-00249440-00249639 the project provides transportation
W2iPWujuGrI-01040-00249640-00249782 options for everyone
W2iPWujuGrI-01041-00249783-00250015 including our disadvantaged communities
W2iPWujuGrI-01042-00250016-00250191 and will significantly benefit the
W2iPWujuGrI-01043-00250192-00250342 region's economy
W2iPWujuGrI-01044-00250344-00250582 the project will decrease congestion
W2iPWujuGrI-01045-00250583-00250806 with increased throughput while reducing
W2iPWujuGrI-01046-00250807-00251046 vehicle miles traveled and creating a
W2iPWujuGrI-01047-00251048-00251303 safer and more sustainable community
W2iPWujuGrI-01048-00251304-00251471 the project includes safety and
W2iPWujuGrI-01049-00251471-00251679 operational improvements on highway 1
W2iPWujuGrI-01050-00251680-00251891 including the first
W2iPWujuGrI-01051-00251892-00252167 5.75 miles of an ultimate seven and a
W2iPWujuGrI-01052-00252167-00252246 half mile
W2iPWujuGrI-01053-00252248-00252494 hybrid bus on shoulder auxiliary lane
W2iPWujuGrI-01054-00252496-00252615 facility
W2iPWujuGrI-01055-00252616-00252791 three sets of auxiliary lanes will be
W2iPWujuGrI-01056-00252792-00252975 constructed between soquel drive and
W2iPWujuGrI-01057-00252976-00253110 state park drive
W2iPWujuGrI-01058-00253111-00253319 and transit buses will be permitted to
W2iPWujuGrI-01059-00253319-00253455 ride on the shoulders
W2iPWujuGrI-01060-00253456-00253679 at intersection locations to bypass
W2iPWujuGrI-01061-00253680-00253775 traffic
W2iPWujuGrI-01062-00253776-00254006 the project also includes two new active
W2iPWujuGrI-01063-00254007-00254127 transportation bridges
W2iPWujuGrI-01064-00254128-00254358 at channel clear avenue and mar vista
W2iPWujuGrI-01065-00254359-00254575 drive as well as a bridge replacement at
W2iPWujuGrI-01066-00254576-00254719 capitola avenue
W2iPWujuGrI-01067-00254719-00254927 with sidewalks and bike lanes and i want
W2iPWujuGrI-01068-00254928-00255103 to mention that that
W2iPWujuGrI-01069-00255104-00255319 replacement of the capitol avenue bridge
W2iPWujuGrI-01070-00255319-00255463 is pretty important
W2iPWujuGrI-01071-00255464-00255758 you know those abutments currently block
W2iPWujuGrI-01072-00255759-00255998 our shoulders we don't have continuous
W2iPWujuGrI-01073-00256000-00256430 shoulders which is why um the uh
W2iPWujuGrI-01074-00256431-00256694 interim idea of actually using our
W2iPWujuGrI-01075-00256696-00256823 existing shoulders
W2iPWujuGrI-01076-00256823-00257158 for buses will not work and um
W2iPWujuGrI-01077-00257159-00257430 we worked with caltrans and chp and
W2iPWujuGrI-01078-00257431-00257630 metro very closely and coming up with
W2iPWujuGrI-01079-00257631-00257863 the hybrid approach which actually
W2iPWujuGrI-01080-00257864-00258127 utilizes the auxiliary lanes which
W2iPWujuGrI-01081-00258128-00258439 help draw traffic off of the local
W2iPWujuGrI-01082-00258440-00258679 streets making them safer for bicycles
W2iPWujuGrI-01083-00258680-00258846 and pedestrians
W2iPWujuGrI-01084-00258848-00259087 it does create a little bit more
W2iPWujuGrI-01085-00259088-00259263 capacity on the highway
W2iPWujuGrI-01086-00259264-00259455 and traffic will be diverted off of
W2iPWujuGrI-01087-00259456-00259646 local streets onto that highway so
W2iPWujuGrI-01088-00259648-00259703 that's
W2iPWujuGrI-01089-00259704-00260055 diverted traffic not induced traffic
W2iPWujuGrI-01090-00260056-00260246 the project also includes complete
W2iPWujuGrI-01091-00260248-00260439 street improvements for socal avenue
W2iPWujuGrI-01092-00260440-00260519 drive
W2iPWujuGrI-01093-00260519-00260830 between la la lafonda avenue
W2iPWujuGrI-01094-00260831-00261071 near harbor high school to state park
W2iPWujuGrI-01095-00261071-00261215 drive and appdos
W2iPWujuGrI-01096-00261216-00261439 the roadway will receive a caped seal of
W2iPWujuGrI-01097-00261440-00261534 the pavement for
W2iPWujuGrI-01098-00261535-00261855 5.6 miles and then will be reconfigured
W2iPWujuGrI-01099-00261856-00261998 with over 5 miles
W2iPWujuGrI-01100-00262000-00262303 of buffered and protected bike lanes 46
W2iPWujuGrI-01101-00262304-00262575 green bike boxes for left turn movements
W2iPWujuGrI-01102-00262576-00262934 sidewalk gap closures 100 ada ramps
W2iPWujuGrI-01103-00262935-00263239 96 crosswalk upgrades and crosswalk
W2iPWujuGrI-01104-00263240-00263423 warning devices at 10 mid-block
W2iPWujuGrI-01105-00263424-00263543 locations
W2iPWujuGrI-01106-00263544-00263734 adaptive signal control will be
W2iPWujuGrI-01107-00263735-00263975 installed at 23 intersections
W2iPWujuGrI-01108-00263976-00264287 with bus transit prioritization
W2iPWujuGrI-01109-00264288-00264534 rtc is working with caltrans santa cruz
W2iPWujuGrI-01110-00264535-00264591 metro
W2iPWujuGrI-01111-00264592-00264758 and the county to deliver the project
W2iPWujuGrI-01112-00264759-00265006 improvements the county
W2iPWujuGrI-01113-00265007-00265215 is the lead agency and implementation of
W2iPWujuGrI-01114-00265216-00265439 the socal avenue drive multimodal
W2iPWujuGrI-01115-00265440-00265543 improvements
W2iPWujuGrI-01116-00265544-00265695 the highway 1 improvements will be
W2iPWujuGrI-01117-00265696-00265927 constructed by caltrans with rtc
W2iPWujuGrI-01118-00265928-00266143 implementing environmental clearance and
W2iPWujuGrI-01119-00266144-00266295 final design
W2iPWujuGrI-01120-00266296-00266551 a grant of this magnitude demonstrates
W2iPWujuGrI-01121-00266552-00266695 the power of measure d
W2iPWujuGrI-01122-00266696-00266991 in leveraging additional funding it also
W2iPWujuGrI-01123-00266992-00267063 validates
W2iPWujuGrI-01124-00267064-00267287 years of effective planning especially
W2iPWujuGrI-01125-00267288-00267382 in the
W2iPWujuGrI-01126-00267383-00267623 uh with the inclusion of a sustainable
W2iPWujuGrI-01127-00267624-00267782 community strategy within
W2iPWujuGrI-01128-00267783-00268055 our regional transportation plan and the
W2iPWujuGrI-01129-00268056-00268223 adoption of the unified corridor
W2iPWujuGrI-01130-00268224-00268343 investment study
W2iPWujuGrI-01131-00268344-00268567 which served as our required multimodal
W2iPWujuGrI-01132-00268568-00268647 corridor plan
W2iPWujuGrI-01133-00268648-00268982 and let me say it was very compelling to
W2iPWujuGrI-01134-00268983-00269006 be
W2iPWujuGrI-01135-00269007-00269230 able to make the argument that this plan
W2iPWujuGrI-01136-00269231-00269351 was approved
W2iPWujuGrI-01137-00269352-00269695 12-0 by this board it meant a lot to the
W2iPWujuGrI-01138-00269696-00269775 commission
W2iPWujuGrI-01139-00269776-00270006 and it showed that we had a significant
W2iPWujuGrI-01140-00270007-00270134 community input
W2iPWujuGrI-01141-00270135-00270367 in developing the plan that we place in
W2iPWujuGrI-01142-00270368-00270495 front of them
W2iPWujuGrI-01143-00270496-00270703 sb1 funding for construction was
W2iPWujuGrI-01144-00270704-00271015 programmed in fiscal years 22 and 23
W2iPWujuGrI-01145-00271016-00271327 with 92.8 million coming from the
W2iPWujuGrI-01146-00271328-00271582 solutions to congested corridor program
W2iPWujuGrI-01147-00271583-00271863 and 14.4 million from the competitive
W2iPWujuGrI-01148-00271864-00271975 local partnership
W2iPWujuGrI-01149-00271976-00272327 program staff worked
W2iPWujuGrI-01150-00272328-00272510 with this partner will be working with
W2iPWujuGrI-01151-00272511-00272663 his partners to adjust
W2iPWujuGrI-01152-00272664-00272895 the schedules to match programming i
W2iPWujuGrI-01153-00272896-00273071 anticipate that all components of the
W2iPWujuGrI-01154-00273072-00273230 project will be under construction by
W2iPWujuGrI-01155-00273231-00273391 2023
W2iPWujuGrI-01156-00273392-00273582 staff will provide regular updates on
W2iPWujuGrI-01157-00273583-00273743 the delivery of this transformative
W2iPWujuGrI-01158-00273744-00273951 project at subsequent meetings
W2iPWujuGrI-01159-00273952-00274191 i have one of those updates right now
W2iPWujuGrI-01160-00274192-00274406 the highway 1 improvement project state
W2iPWujuGrI-01161-00274407-00274503 park
W2iPWujuGrI-01162-00274504-00274791 to bay porter the release of the draft
W2iPWujuGrI-01163-00274792-00275006 environmental impact report
W2iPWujuGrI-01164-00275007-00275319 we released that for public comment um
W2iPWujuGrI-01165-00275320-00275630 and the 45 day review period started on
W2iPWujuGrI-01166-00275631-00275734 january 11
W2iPWujuGrI-01167-00275735-00276095 2021. have started uh
W2iPWujuGrI-01168-00276096-00276263 a while back and will be completed on
W2iPWujuGrI-01169-00276264-00276471 january 11 2021.
W2iPWujuGrI-01170-00276472-00276710 a virtual public hearing will be held on
W2iPWujuGrI-01171-00276711-00276847 december 8th
W2iPWujuGrI-01172-00276848-00277095 from 5 to 6 30 to provide the public
W2iPWujuGrI-01173-00277096-00277230 with the opportunity
W2iPWujuGrI-01174-00277231-00277382 to learn more about the project and
W2iPWujuGrI-01175-00277383-00277639 submit comments before a final design is
W2iPWujuGrI-01176-00277640-00277734 selected
W2iPWujuGrI-01177-00277735-00277958 more information can be found on the rtc
W2iPWujuGrI-01178-00277959-00278047 website and i've
W2iPWujuGrI-01179-00278048-00278303 provided a link there and then uh
W2iPWujuGrI-01180-00278304-00278406 earlier this week
W2iPWujuGrI-01181-00278407-00278679 um a bipartisan group of members of
W2iPWujuGrI-01182-00278680-00278830 congress unveiled
W2iPWujuGrI-01183-00278831-00279134 the framework for a 908 billion dollar
W2iPWujuGrI-01184-00279135-00279271 emergency relief
W2iPWujuGrI-01185-00279272-00279551 proposal designed to carry the u.s
W2iPWujuGrI-01186-00279552-00279582 through
W2iPWujuGrI-01187-00279583-00279975 march 31st 2021. the text of the bill is
W2iPWujuGrI-01188-00279976-00280223 still being finalized but the bipartisan
W2iPWujuGrI-01189-00280224-00280510 coalition says it will include 45
W2iPWujuGrI-01190-00280511-00280671 billion dollars for transit
W2iPWujuGrI-01191-00280672-00281006 airlines airports buses and amtrak
W2iPWujuGrI-01192-00281007-00281310 including 15 billion for mass transit 1
W2iPWujuGrI-01193-00281311-00281551 billion for amtrak and 8 billion for
W2iPWujuGrI-01194-00281552-00281647 buses
W2iPWujuGrI-01195-00281648-00281887 and the motor coach industry how the
W2iPWujuGrI-01196-00281888-00282071 transit funds will be distributed has
W2iPWujuGrI-01197-00282072-00282223 not been finalized
W2iPWujuGrI-01198-00282224-00282415 the transit industry has been requesting
W2iPWujuGrI-01199-00282416-00282679 at least 32 billion in emergency relief
W2iPWujuGrI-01200-00282680-00282887 as the combined impacts of the pandemic
W2iPWujuGrI-01201-00282888-00283006 have left public
W2iPWujuGrI-01202-00283007-00283215 transit systems across the united states
W2iPWujuGrI-01203-00283216-00283327 struggling
W2iPWujuGrI-01204-00283328-00283630 the proposal also includes financial
W2iPWujuGrI-01205-00283631-00283767 relief for states
W2iPWujuGrI-01206-00283768-00283991 local and tribal governments students
W2iPWujuGrI-01207-00283992-00284119 small businesses
W2iPWujuGrI-01208-00284120-00284303 health care low-income and minority
W2iPWujuGrI-01209-00284304-00284527 communities the unemployed among
W2iPWujuGrI-01210-00284528-00284806 others the framework is retroactive to
W2iPWujuGrI-01211-00284807-00284967 december 1st
W2iPWujuGrI-01212-00284968-00285215 and will extend to march 31st which
W2iPWujuGrI-01213-00285216-00285327 gives congress
W2iPWujuGrI-01214-00285328-00285510 a few weeks to nail down the details on
W2iPWujuGrI-01215-00285511-00285703 the proposed legislation
W2iPWujuGrI-01216-00285704-00285903 and potentially pass a piece of
W2iPWujuGrI-01217-00285904-00286206 legislation
W2iPWujuGrI-01218-00286207-00286510 with that i'd like to um remind
W2iPWujuGrI-01219-00286511-00286703 the commissioners and the public you've
W2iPWujuGrI-01220-00286704-00286854 already heard that there
W2iPWujuGrI-01221-00286855-00287030 this is the last meeting for three of
W2iPWujuGrI-01222-00287031-00287223 our commissioners
W2iPWujuGrI-01223-00287224-00287471 and um you know we are a family here at
W2iPWujuGrI-01224-00287472-00287695 rtc and and each of the commissioners
W2iPWujuGrI-01225-00287696-00287895 mean a lot to us
W2iPWujuGrI-01226-00287896-00288239 i'd like to start actually with um uh
W2iPWujuGrI-01227-00288240-00288543 can you move down to
W2iPWujuGrI-01228-00288544-00288823 trina kaufman gomez i'm going to go in
W2iPWujuGrI-01229-00288824-00288967 the order of service
W2iPWujuGrI-01230-00288968-00289351 um brina kaufman gomez
W2iPWujuGrI-01231-00289352-00289775 um we're going to give her recognition
W2iPWujuGrI-01232-00289776-00289943 for her two years of outstanding
W2iPWujuGrI-01233-00289944-00290023 dedication
W2iPWujuGrI-01234-00290024-00290287 and public service with the santa cruz
W2iPWujuGrI-01235-00290288-00290423 county regional transportation
W2iPWujuGrI-01236-00290424-00290534 commission
W2iPWujuGrI-01237-00290535-00290791 thank you for your support for the
W2iPWujuGrI-01238-00290792-00290982 unified quarter investment study
W2iPWujuGrI-01239-00290983-00291143 the transit corridor alternatives
W2iPWujuGrI-01240-00291144-00291327 analysis and your dedication to
W2iPWujuGrI-01241-00291328-00291399 transportation
W2iPWujuGrI-01242-00291400-00291719 in santa cruz county um personally trina
W2iPWujuGrI-01243-00291720-00292023 and i have had a very close connection
W2iPWujuGrI-01244-00292024-00292375 she is very dedicated to
W2iPWujuGrI-01245-00292376-00292623 the the work she does here she contacts
W2iPWujuGrI-01246-00292624-00292758 me regularly
W2iPWujuGrI-01247-00292759-00292927 regarding questions she has on our
W2iPWujuGrI-01248-00292928-00293143 agenda packages and just
W2iPWujuGrI-01249-00293144-00293351 when she sees a transportation issue of
W2iPWujuGrI-01250-00293352-00293558 interest she makes sure she calls it to
W2iPWujuGrI-01251-00293559-00293703 my attention
W2iPWujuGrI-01252-00293704-00293919 she's been absolutely wonderful to work
W2iPWujuGrI-01253-00293920-00294030 with and
W2iPWujuGrI-01254-00294031-00294351 a great commissioner to support
W2iPWujuGrI-01255-00294352-00294479 all of the programs that we've been
W2iPWujuGrI-01256-00294480-00294671 moving forward with um
W2iPWujuGrI-01257-00294672-00294847 now if we can move on to commissioner
W2iPWujuGrI-01258-00294848-00295367 bautore
W2iPWujuGrI-01259-00295368-00295591 in recognition for your five years of
W2iPWujuGrI-01260-00295592-00295758 outstanding dedication and public
W2iPWujuGrI-01261-00295759-00295903 service with the santa cruz county
W2iPWujuGrI-01262-00295904-00296119 regional transportation commission
W2iPWujuGrI-01263-00296120-00296327 you have built inclusive coalitions and
W2iPWujuGrI-01264-00296328-00296558 garnered support to pass measure d
W2iPWujuGrI-01265-00296559-00296751 your support for the unified corridor
W2iPWujuGrI-01266-00296752-00296910 investment study and the transit
W2iPWujuGrI-01267-00296911-00296958 corridor
W2iPWujuGrI-01268-00296959-00297182 alternatives analysis as well as your
W2iPWujuGrI-01269-00297183-00297279 leadership
W2iPWujuGrI-01270-00297280-00297479 and guiding a strong partnership with
W2iPWujuGrI-01271-00297480-00297591 the santa cruz
W2iPWujuGrI-01272-00297592-00297895 metro has been very important to this
W2iPWujuGrI-01273-00297896-00297999 commission
W2iPWujuGrI-01274-00298000-00298310 um for you those of you who do not know
W2iPWujuGrI-01275-00298311-00298606 um commissioner bottworff was my very
W2iPWujuGrI-01276-00298607-00298654 first
W2iPWujuGrI-01277-00298655-00299095 chair and so i spent quite a bit of time
W2iPWujuGrI-01278-00299096-00299358 working with ed and he helped me
W2iPWujuGrI-01279-00299359-00299575 immensely and learning the ins and outs
W2iPWujuGrI-01280-00299576-00299639 of
W2iPWujuGrI-01281-00299640-00299830 being an executive director for the
W2iPWujuGrI-01282-00299831-00300023 commission and i really appreciate
W2iPWujuGrI-01283-00300024-00300223 the time that commissioner both work
W2iPWujuGrI-01284-00300224-00300415 spent with me
W2iPWujuGrI-01285-00300416-00300743 and finally but not last um
W2iPWujuGrI-01286-00300744-00301110 but not least commissioner john leopold
W2iPWujuGrI-01287-00301111-00301334 in recognition of 12 years of tireless
W2iPWujuGrI-01288-00301335-00301543 dedication to improving transportation
W2iPWujuGrI-01289-00301544-00301687 in santa cruz county
W2iPWujuGrI-01290-00301688-00301895 as a commissioner and sometimes as the
W2iPWujuGrI-01291-00301896-00302079 chair of the santa cruz county regional
W2iPWujuGrI-01292-00302080-00302247 transportation commission
W2iPWujuGrI-01293-00302248-00302479 demonstrated demonstrating focused
W2iPWujuGrI-01294-00302480-00302663 leadership and the reshaping of the
W2iPWujuGrI-01295-00302664-00302879 regional transportation plan to include
W2iPWujuGrI-01296-00302880-00303071 the triple bottom line analysis of
W2iPWujuGrI-01297-00303072-00303319 economy environment and equity
W2iPWujuGrI-01298-00303320-00303575 superb advocacy with the california
W2iPWujuGrI-01299-00303576-00303758 transportation commission to secure
W2iPWujuGrI-01300-00303759-00303958 funding for the purchase of the santa
W2iPWujuGrI-01301-00303959-00304110 cruz branch rail line
W2iPWujuGrI-01302-00304111-00304415 and local repair throughout the county
W2iPWujuGrI-01303-00304416-00304630 devoted engagement to help develop the
W2iPWujuGrI-01304-00304631-00304839 coastal rail trail secure its funding
W2iPWujuGrI-01305-00304840-00305047 and ensure its implementation
W2iPWujuGrI-01306-00305048-00305319 resolute efforts to help craft measure b
W2iPWujuGrI-01307-00305320-00305454 a 30-year
W2iPWujuGrI-01308-00305455-00305647 transportation improvement package and
W2iPWujuGrI-01309-00305648-00305863 build an inclusive community coalition
W2iPWujuGrI-01310-00305864-00306030 to ensure its passage
W2iPWujuGrI-01311-00306031-00306310 indeed a monumental achievement for
W2iPWujuGrI-01312-00306311-00306439 those of you who do not know
W2iPWujuGrI-01313-00306440-00306639 john leopold is the person who offered
W2iPWujuGrI-01314-00306640-00306799 me my job so
W2iPWujuGrI-01315-00306800-00307015 um for for all of those people who want
W2iPWujuGrI-01316-00307016-00307215 to cast blame in the future
W2iPWujuGrI-01317-00307216-00307527 reason why i am here is because john
W2iPWujuGrI-01318-00307528-00307679 picked up the phone and called me and
W2iPWujuGrI-01319-00307680-00307943 offered me this position i know it was
W2iPWujuGrI-01320-00307944-00308263 a a decision by by all commissioners but
W2iPWujuGrI-01321-00308264-00308415 it means a lot to me
W2iPWujuGrI-01322-00308416-00308615 that john was the one who called me and
W2iPWujuGrI-01323-00308616-00308751 offered me the position he
W2iPWujuGrI-01324-00308752-00309071 and saw the excitement in my voice when
W2iPWujuGrI-01325-00309072-00309271 i accepted the position and i really
W2iPWujuGrI-01326-00309272-00309527 thanked john for the leadership he
W2iPWujuGrI-01327-00309528-00309654 showed um
W2iPWujuGrI-01328-00309655-00309967 in in uh in the search for the new
W2iPWujuGrI-01329-00309968-00310079 executive director
W2iPWujuGrI-01330-00310080-00310319 and um for the confidence that he placed
W2iPWujuGrI-01331-00310320-00310399 in me
W2iPWujuGrI-01332-00310400-00310591 i know that many people many
W2iPWujuGrI-01333-00310592-00310719 commissioners would like to make
W2iPWujuGrI-01334-00310720-00310871 comments regarding the outgoing
W2iPWujuGrI-01335-00310872-00310967 commissioners
W2iPWujuGrI-01336-00310968-00311206 and this would be the time to do so
W2iPWujuGrI-01337-00311207-00311454 thank you that concludes my report
W2iPWujuGrI-01338-00311455-00311639 thank you mr preston and i'll be the
W2iPWujuGrI-01339-00311640-00311854 first one online to take the license as
W2iPWujuGrI-01340-00311855-00312158 uh chair as outgoing chair as it is uh
W2iPWujuGrI-01341-00312159-00312463 to say what a privilege it has been to
W2iPWujuGrI-01342-00312464-00312630 work with these three commissioners
W2iPWujuGrI-01343-00312631-00312839 throughout the years um
W2iPWujuGrI-01344-00312840-00313015 each of them have been really a delight
W2iPWujuGrI-01345-00313016-00313175 to work with uh sometimes having
W2iPWujuGrI-01346-00313176-00313358 different opinions and all and that's
W2iPWujuGrI-01347-00313359-00313503 what we're all about
W2iPWujuGrI-01348-00313504-00313767 it's a very controversial uh issue at
W2iPWujuGrI-01349-00313768-00313815 times
W2iPWujuGrI-01350-00313816-00314158 transportation is but i uh just to say a
W2iPWujuGrI-01351-00314159-00314303 few comments about each
W2iPWujuGrI-01352-00314304-00314630 with trina kaufman gomez she is just so
W2iPWujuGrI-01353-00314631-00314863 detailed her analysis and the budgeting
W2iPWujuGrI-01354-00314864-00314951 and what she does
W2iPWujuGrI-01355-00314952-00315206 and she's always watching out uh for the
W2iPWujuGrI-01356-00315207-00315303 whole system but
W2iPWujuGrI-01357-00315304-00315727 really as can be expected for what has a
W2iPWujuGrI-01358-00315728-00315903 substantial impact in the watsonville
W2iPWujuGrI-01359-00315904-00316063 area itself um
W2iPWujuGrI-01360-00316064-00316295 i also have been able to serve at times
W2iPWujuGrI-01361-00316296-00316447 with uh for over some time
W2iPWujuGrI-01362-00316448-00316710 with her on ambag that it is related
W2iPWujuGrI-01363-00316711-00316791 with uh
W2iPWujuGrI-01364-00316792-00317006 has a relation with transportation and
W2iPWujuGrI-01365-00317007-00317230 housing issues in particular
W2iPWujuGrI-01366-00317231-00317503 she is just as ambitious and detailed
W2iPWujuGrI-01367-00317504-00317567 and
W2iPWujuGrI-01368-00317568-00317830 focused on issues there as she has been
W2iPWujuGrI-01369-00317831-00318023 on the commission and i know that that
W2iPWujuGrI-01370-00318024-00318143 holds true for her
W2iPWujuGrI-01371-00318144-00318310 long-term service on the watsonville
W2iPWujuGrI-01372-00318311-00318567 city council uh it has been a delight to
W2iPWujuGrI-01373-00318568-00318719 be able to get to know her better
W2iPWujuGrI-01374-00318720-00318934 at our trips over and uh back to
W2iPWujuGrI-01375-00318935-00319079 monterey county to ambag
W2iPWujuGrI-01376-00319080-00319254 or to here on the uh to be on the
W2iPWujuGrI-01377-00319255-00319503 commission and i truly appreciate
W2iPWujuGrI-01378-00319504-00319758 the services that you have provided uh
W2iPWujuGrI-01379-00319759-00319871 even with your
W2iPWujuGrI-01380-00319872-00320119 granddaughter and on arms and all that
W2iPWujuGrI-01381-00320120-00320327 it is a delight to see that it gives us
W2iPWujuGrI-01382-00320328-00320415 some nice uh
W2iPWujuGrI-01383-00320416-00320767 levity at times uh mr botorf has been uh
W2iPWujuGrI-01384-00320768-00321054 well he preceded me as chair and uh
W2iPWujuGrI-01385-00321055-00321206 stepped in when
W2iPWujuGrI-01386-00321207-00321423 cynthia chase says santa cruz was unable
W2iPWujuGrI-01387-00321424-00321647 to do so a couple years ago
W2iPWujuGrI-01388-00321648-00322071 as she moved but i have there's a lot of
W2iPWujuGrI-01389-00322072-00322351 really uh good memories that i have with
W2iPWujuGrI-01390-00322352-00322406 him
W2iPWujuGrI-01391-00322407-00322591 discussing the details of the agenda
W2iPWujuGrI-01392-00322592-00322734 over the years uh
W2iPWujuGrI-01393-00322735-00323047 at gilda's for a long time uh on the
W2iPWujuGrI-01394-00323048-00323334 friday before uh sometimes the the
W2iPWujuGrI-01395-00323335-00323447 meetings uh
W2iPWujuGrI-01396-00323448-00323782 whether it be metro or uh the rtc
W2iPWujuGrI-01397-00323783-00324143 uh but there's uh one thing that really
W2iPWujuGrI-01398-00324144-00324175 uh
W2iPWujuGrI-01399-00324176-00324399 was uh impressive to me we made some
W2iPWujuGrI-01400-00324400-00324615 trips uh have made some did not this
W2iPWujuGrI-01401-00324616-00324815 year but i don't know when we will again
W2iPWujuGrI-01402-00324816-00325047 uh to washington d.c to talk to our
W2iPWujuGrI-01403-00325048-00325206 congressional representatives
W2iPWujuGrI-01404-00325207-00325495 and senators and uh he was always at the
W2iPWujuGrI-01405-00325496-00325567 front of the line
W2iPWujuGrI-01406-00325568-00325830 i knew how to uh you know what what rang
W2iPWujuGrI-01407-00325831-00325887 the bell
W2iPWujuGrI-01408-00325888-00326182 so to speak of those uh legislators and
W2iPWujuGrI-01409-00326183-00326351 helped us in getting some grants and
W2iPWujuGrI-01410-00326352-00326423 some just
W2iPWujuGrI-01411-00326424-00326695 general attention that's ongoing in
W2iPWujuGrI-01412-00326696-00326863 washington d.c
W2iPWujuGrI-01413-00326864-00327215 as well as in sacramento and very very
W2iPWujuGrI-01414-00327216-00327415 distinguished spokesman for the regional
W2iPWujuGrI-01415-00327416-00327567 transportation commission and those
W2iPWujuGrI-01416-00327568-00327719 events as he has been
W2iPWujuGrI-01417-00327720-00327951 at our commission meetings and john
W2iPWujuGrI-01418-00327952-00328023 leopold
W2iPWujuGrI-01419-00328024-00328239 uh i've had the real pleasure of serving
W2iPWujuGrI-01420-00328240-00328358 with him on the county board of
W2iPWujuGrI-01421-00328359-00328527 supervisors of course
W2iPWujuGrI-01422-00328528-00328719 uh i don't know anybody who's ever
W2iPWujuGrI-01423-00328720-00328847 worked harder
W2iPWujuGrI-01424-00328848-00329134 for his district or for his cause but
W2iPWujuGrI-01425-00329135-00329278 the one thing that i remember in
W2iPWujuGrI-01426-00329279-00329543 particular is the measure d
W2iPWujuGrI-01427-00329544-00329799 and we were for two years we discussed
W2iPWujuGrI-01428-00329800-00329871 what should be
W2iPWujuGrI-01429-00329872-00330063 as members of the campaign committee
W2iPWujuGrI-01430-00330064-00330215 representing this commissioner the
W2iPWujuGrI-01431-00330216-00330303 county
W2iPWujuGrI-01432-00330304-00330558 uh what needs to be done and the the
W2iPWujuGrI-01433-00330559-00330791 beauty of that was it was all-inclusive
W2iPWujuGrI-01434-00330792-00330847 we had
W2iPWujuGrI-01435-00330848-00331095 all modes of transportation and that's
W2iPWujuGrI-01436-00331096-00331271 principally why we got the grant we
W2iPWujuGrI-01437-00331272-00331575 was just announced today or yesterday by
W2iPWujuGrI-01438-00331576-00331806 the california transportation commission
W2iPWujuGrI-01439-00331807-00331967 believe me john was at the front of the
W2iPWujuGrI-01440-00331968-00332206 line i took a lot of time to get the
W2iPWujuGrI-01441-00332207-00332287 right
W2iPWujuGrI-01442-00332288-00332615 uh mix and match on measure d
W2iPWujuGrI-01443-00332616-00332839 and that is uh going to be a it's a
W2iPWujuGrI-01444-00332840-00332927 30-year
W2iPWujuGrI-01445-00332928-00333175 measure that's going to be of benefit to
W2iPWujuGrI-01446-00333176-00333230 all of us
W2iPWujuGrI-01447-00333231-00333519 and we are a great deal of gratitude for
W2iPWujuGrI-01448-00333520-00333630 john leopold
W2iPWujuGrI-01449-00333631-00333863 on that and i'm just focusing on measure
W2iPWujuGrI-01450-00333864-00334030 d and transportation but
W2iPWujuGrI-01451-00334031-00334334 he did so much for his first district
W2iPWujuGrI-01452-00334335-00334575 uh the weapon parks roads whatever the
W2iPWujuGrI-01453-00334576-00334654 case may be
W2iPWujuGrI-01454-00334655-00334943 but um really a detailed person and a
W2iPWujuGrI-01455-00334944-00335015 hard worker
W2iPWujuGrI-01456-00335016-00335271 and uh it's been nice to to work with
W2iPWujuGrI-01457-00335272-00335367 him on the measure d
W2iPWujuGrI-01458-00335368-00335591 campaign in particular and i know that
W2iPWujuGrI-01459-00335592-00335727 some other members of the commission
W2iPWujuGrI-01460-00335728-00335958 would like to have some comments
W2iPWujuGrI-01461-00335959-00336206 please open up and who would like to
W2iPWujuGrI-01462-00336207-00336710 make aurelio
W2iPWujuGrI-01463-00336711-00336910 thank you chair i just want to keep i'm
W2iPWujuGrI-01464-00336911-00337078 going to keep it brief um
W2iPWujuGrI-01465-00337079-00337295 first i want to thank you all for your
W2iPWujuGrI-01466-00337296-00337447 service
W2iPWujuGrI-01467-00337448-00337599 it's a it's a great privilege serving
W2iPWujuGrI-01468-00337600-00337847 next to you folks uh especially trina
W2iPWujuGrI-01469-00337848-00338063 uh with all our details uh city council
W2iPWujuGrI-01470-00338064-00338247 and rtc and metro
W2iPWujuGrI-01471-00338248-00338543 uh we had plenty of time in commuting
W2iPWujuGrI-01472-00338544-00338687 together from watsonville to
W2iPWujuGrI-01473-00338688-00338863 the metro meetings when we were in
W2iPWujuGrI-01474-00338864-00339030 person so
W2iPWujuGrI-01475-00339031-00339382 i got a lot of a lot of education
W2iPWujuGrI-01476-00339383-00339606 and those trips so i thank you for that
W2iPWujuGrI-01477-00339607-00339799 for that information that you've
W2iPWujuGrI-01478-00339800-00340110 divulged with me uh and ed and john i
W2iPWujuGrI-01479-00340111-00340295 appreciate your service to the community
W2iPWujuGrI-01480-00340296-00340351 into
W2iPWujuGrI-01481-00340352-00340519 the city of watsonville and always
W2iPWujuGrI-01482-00340520-00340703 looking out for everyone's
W2iPWujuGrI-01483-00340704-00340927 interest in transportation and the need
W2iPWujuGrI-01484-00340928-00341095 to improve it for within our county and
W2iPWujuGrI-01485-00341096-00341206 our region
W2iPWujuGrI-01486-00341207-00341391 and i thank you and i look forward to
W2iPWujuGrI-01487-00341392-00341551 being
W2iPWujuGrI-01488-00341552-00341943 the chair uh it'll be in it first for me
W2iPWujuGrI-01489-00341944-00343023 so be patient with me thank you
W2iPWujuGrI-01490-00343024-00343230 any other comments from commissioners i
W2iPWujuGrI-01491-00343231-00343351 know so there's a lot
W2iPWujuGrI-01492-00343352-00343503 each of you would like to say something
W2iPWujuGrI-01493-00343504-00343671 uh you don't all have to say something
W2iPWujuGrI-01494-00343672-00343982 uh sandy do you want to say something um
W2iPWujuGrI-01495-00343983-00344343 yeah mr schifrin um very briefly i don't
W2iPWujuGrI-01496-00344344-00344495 want to repeat what other people have
W2iPWujuGrI-01497-00344496-00344543 said
W2iPWujuGrI-01498-00344544-00344823 but i want to thank trina for all her
W2iPWujuGrI-01499-00344824-00344895 questions
W2iPWujuGrI-01500-00344896-00345199 and really looking into subjects
W2iPWujuGrI-01501-00345200-00345503 um and issues very deeply and
W2iPWujuGrI-01502-00345504-00345871 you know responding in a way that
W2iPWujuGrI-01503-00345872-00346127 was quite knowledgeable um so i
W2iPWujuGrI-01504-00346128-00346334 appreciated your work being on
W2iPWujuGrI-01505-00346335-00346623 on the commission um it's been a
W2iPWujuGrI-01506-00346624-00346799 pleasure to work with ed
W2iPWujuGrI-01507-00346800-00347127 uh during his time uh always i
W2iPWujuGrI-01508-00347128-00347382 what i remember is the positive attitude
W2iPWujuGrI-01509-00347383-00347454 that
W2iPWujuGrI-01510-00347455-00347678 you had and the sense of humor that you
W2iPWujuGrI-01511-00347679-00347806 brought to
W2iPWujuGrI-01512-00347807-00348110 uh sometimes fairly humorous humorless
W2iPWujuGrI-01513-00348111-00348406 issues um finally i want to talk about
W2iPWujuGrI-01514-00348407-00348471 john
W2iPWujuGrI-01515-00348472-00348815 i've known john for decades um
W2iPWujuGrI-01516-00348816-00349167 i was actually at his wedding um many
W2iPWujuGrI-01517-00349168-00349534 uh not that many but many years ago um
W2iPWujuGrI-01518-00349535-00349887 and uh the one
W2iPWujuGrI-01519-00349888-00350095 issue that hasn't been mentioned that's
W2iPWujuGrI-01520-00350096-00350191 transportation
W2iPWujuGrI-01521-00350192-00350447 transportation related this is work on
W2iPWujuGrI-01522-00350448-00350639 the acquisition of the rail line
W2iPWujuGrI-01523-00350640-00350871 i don't think we would current we would
W2iPWujuGrI-01524-00350872-00351063 we would own the rail line now
W2iPWujuGrI-01525-00351064-00351415 if it wasn't for john's perseverance
W2iPWujuGrI-01526-00351416-00351751 hard work um
W2iPWujuGrI-01527-00351752-00352039 just really dedication to getting that
W2iPWujuGrI-01528-00352040-00352103 line
W2iPWujuGrI-01529-00352104-00352439 um um acquired
W2iPWujuGrI-01530-00352440-00352654 now that we have it we have all sorts of
W2iPWujuGrI-01531-00352655-00352887 debates about what we should do with it
W2iPWujuGrI-01532-00352888-00353215 but it was no fair it was not uh
W2iPWujuGrI-01533-00353216-00353454 something to be taken for granted uh
W2iPWujuGrI-01534-00353455-00353695 union pacific was not an easy
W2iPWujuGrI-01535-00353696-00354023 uh seller to deal with and
W2iPWujuGrI-01536-00354024-00354215 i think the commission at times was
W2iPWujuGrI-01537-00354216-00354382 ready to just up their
W2iPWujuGrI-01538-00354383-00354630 hands and say forget about it but john
W2iPWujuGrI-01539-00354631-00354710 hung in there
W2iPWujuGrI-01540-00354711-00354878 with them hung in there with the
W2iPWujuGrI-01541-00354879-00355119 commission hung in there with the ctc
W2iPWujuGrI-01542-00355120-00355463 and really advocated at the cct ctc so
W2iPWujuGrI-01543-00355464-00355534 john
W2iPWujuGrI-01544-00355535-00355903 um i really want to thank you for um
W2iPWujuGrI-01545-00355904-00356263 for that contribution
W2iPWujuGrI-01546-00356264-00356430 good the other commissioners would like
W2iPWujuGrI-01547-00356431-00356582 to speak uh
W2iPWujuGrI-01548-00356583-00356878 miss brown i'll be quick um yeah i just
W2iPWujuGrI-01549-00356879-00356934 i
W2iPWujuGrI-01550-00356935-00357095 i agree with all of the comments that
W2iPWujuGrI-01551-00357096-00357295 have been made about uh these three
W2iPWujuGrI-01552-00357296-00357519 uh commissioners uh you know attention
W2iPWujuGrI-01553-00357520-00357615 to detail
W2iPWujuGrI-01554-00357616-00357975 uh thoughtfulness leadership um so i
W2iPWujuGrI-01555-00357976-00358119 won't repeat those but
W2iPWujuGrI-01556-00358120-00358439 i do wanna say that i um you know when i
W2iPWujuGrI-01557-00358440-00358527 came to the commission
W2iPWujuGrI-01558-00358528-00358671 you know i i didn't this was my first
W2iPWujuGrI-01559-00358672-00358895 foray into transportation related
W2iPWujuGrI-01560-00358896-00359199 policy and uh budgeting and i have
W2iPWujuGrI-01561-00359200-00359415 learned so much from all of you
W2iPWujuGrI-01562-00359416-00359695 and um you know just really really um
W2iPWujuGrI-01563-00359696-00359775 inspired
W2iPWujuGrI-01564-00359776-00359958 and um you know have a lot of respect
W2iPWujuGrI-01565-00359959-00360110 for the work you've done and
W2iPWujuGrI-01566-00360111-00360271 um you know all the things that others
W2iPWujuGrI-01567-00360272-00360430 have said ditto
W2iPWujuGrI-01568-00360431-00360710 um and i wish you well and uh thank you
W2iPWujuGrI-01569-00360711-00360823 for helping me
W2iPWujuGrI-01570-00360824-00361078 uh get ready for uh moving into the
W2iPWujuGrI-01571-00361079-00361287 co-chair role
W2iPWujuGrI-01572-00361288-00361447 thank you anyone else would like to
W2iPWujuGrI-01573-00361448-00361663 speak
W2iPWujuGrI-01574-00361664-00361839 i think it would be repetitive in a lot
W2iPWujuGrI-01575-00361840-00361991 of ways but uh if any
W2iPWujuGrI-01576-00361992-00362295 okay i think we'll no one else then
W2iPWujuGrI-01577-00362296-00362799 okay uh miss kaufman gomez
W2iPWujuGrI-01578-00362800-00363054 um yes thank you you're right policy for
W2iPWujuGrI-01579-00363055-00363287 transportation is very very complex
W2iPWujuGrI-01580-00363288-00363558 and it was a huge learning curve to just
W2iPWujuGrI-01581-00363559-00363710 get to the position of us
W2iPWujuGrI-01582-00363711-00363903 moving on the particular study that we
W2iPWujuGrI-01583-00363904-00364039 did and then being
W2iPWujuGrI-01584-00364040-00364287 included in the tca which i really
W2iPWujuGrI-01585-00364288-00364367 appreciated
W2iPWujuGrI-01586-00364368-00364582 um a lot more depth of knowledge to be
W2iPWujuGrI-01587-00364583-00364727 able to share with our community
W2iPWujuGrI-01588-00364728-00364887 because i know that our community has
W2iPWujuGrI-01589-00364888-00365054 missed out quite a bit on that one
W2iPWujuGrI-01590-00365055-00365263 it's been a pleasure also to learn from
W2iPWujuGrI-01591-00365264-00365399 you andy
W2iPWujuGrI-01592-00365400-00365678 very very articulate on better
W2iPWujuGrI-01593-00365679-00365823 understanding for me when i'm
W2iPWujuGrI-01594-00365824-00366078 reading your emails in response to many
W2iPWujuGrI-01595-00366079-00366263 people who have questions about where
W2iPWujuGrI-01596-00366264-00366399 we're going with things
W2iPWujuGrI-01597-00366400-00366734 uh bruce not only ambag but we also
W2iPWujuGrI-01598-00366735-00367087 um with the the cca um
W2iPWujuGrI-01599-00367088-00367254 community power i think that that was
W2iPWujuGrI-01600-00367255-00367430 also um significant
W2iPWujuGrI-01601-00367431-00367719 um aurelio i i wish you the best moving
W2iPWujuGrI-01602-00367720-00367919 forward as the chair coming on
W2iPWujuGrI-01603-00367920-00368239 um and also uh a lot of our
W2iPWujuGrI-01604-00368240-00368406 conversations that we've had
W2iPWujuGrI-01605-00368407-00368582 while we've been in an hour and 20
W2iPWujuGrI-01606-00368583-00368791 commute coming from watsonville to
W2iPWujuGrI-01607-00368792-00368934 making sure that we're on time to a
W2iPWujuGrI-01608-00368935-00369023 transportation
W2iPWujuGrI-01609-00369024-00369175 committee meeting um it's been
W2iPWujuGrI-01610-00369176-00369334 significant there and
W2iPWujuGrI-01611-00369335-00369630 you know donna we're working with you up
W2iPWujuGrI-01612-00369631-00369806 at the north end there with um
W2iPWujuGrI-01613-00369807-00369958 things that are going on and evolving in
W2iPWujuGrI-01614-00369959-00370143 your community
W2iPWujuGrI-01615-00370144-00370382 and i can go on with many of the other
W2iPWujuGrI-01616-00370383-00370534 commissioners that have been here that
W2iPWujuGrI-01617-00370535-00370671 have been very helpful
W2iPWujuGrI-01618-00370672-00371158 sorry um
W2iPWujuGrI-01619-00371159-00371399 street sweeper it's a good thing right
W2iPWujuGrI-01620-00371400-00371567 um and i also want to say that i've had
W2iPWujuGrI-01621-00371568-00371743 a lot of respect for the staff
W2iPWujuGrI-01622-00371744-00372063 who've been very patient and um helped
W2iPWujuGrI-01623-00372064-00372287 in in every way that i needed to have
W2iPWujuGrI-01624-00372288-00372447 for those resources luis you've been
W2iPWujuGrI-01625-00372448-00372510 there
W2iPWujuGrI-01626-00372511-00372671 when i've needled you with questions
W2iPWujuGrI-01627-00372672-00372854 when i've had the audience of
W2iPWujuGrI-01628-00372855-00373119 people in trying to influence one way or
W2iPWujuGrI-01629-00373120-00373191 the other
W2iPWujuGrI-01630-00373192-00373382 on information and wanting to get it
W2iPWujuGrI-01631-00373383-00373551 disseminated so that i can be
W2iPWujuGrI-01632-00373552-00373839 very very um articulate and
W2iPWujuGrI-01633-00373840-00373958 understanding
W2iPWujuGrI-01634-00373959-00374175 and making sure that i'm making some
W2iPWujuGrI-01635-00374176-00374310 wise questions out there that the
W2iPWujuGrI-01636-00374311-00374391 community has
W2iPWujuGrI-01637-00374392-00374695 to say um and again so all of you thank
W2iPWujuGrI-01638-00374696-00374815 you very much for
W2iPWujuGrI-01639-00374816-00375078 allowing to be here as a service for
W2iPWujuGrI-01640-00375079-00375247 representing watsonville
W2iPWujuGrI-01641-00375248-00375487 and to be able to have your your uh
W2iPWujuGrI-01642-00375488-00375710 attention on what the needs are for
W2iPWujuGrI-01643-00375711-00375919 my community that i've come from so
W2iPWujuGrI-01644-00375920-00376054 again thank you very much for
W2iPWujuGrI-01645-00376055-00376254 um allowing me to be here and to working
W2iPWujuGrI-01646-00376255-00376439 with all of you as a nice team
W2iPWujuGrI-01647-00376440-00376991 thank you thank you mr bator
W2iPWujuGrI-01648-00376992-00377215 i thank you chair uh yeah first of all i
W2iPWujuGrI-01649-00377216-00377367 want to thank all of you all people that
W2iPWujuGrI-01650-00377368-00377510 have been sharing all these meetings
W2iPWujuGrI-01651-00377511-00377543 with
W2iPWujuGrI-01652-00377544-00377758 with me and and you know what a great
W2iPWujuGrI-01653-00377759-00377847 group to work with
W2iPWujuGrI-01654-00377848-00378102 i love the banter we go back and forth i
W2iPWujuGrI-01655-00378103-00378271 wish randy wasn't here so i could say
W2iPWujuGrI-01656-00378272-00378463 goodbye to him derek uh just
W2iPWujuGrI-01657-00378464-00378647 say you know randy's always brought
W2iPWujuGrI-01658-00378648-00378823 something to the table and i love that
W2iPWujuGrI-01659-00378824-00378991 we all came here we were open we were
W2iPWujuGrI-01660-00378992-00379151 able to really discuss
W2iPWujuGrI-01661-00379152-00379439 and that's really valuable today uh next
W2iPWujuGrI-01662-00379440-00379582 i gotta go to staff you know john
W2iPWujuGrI-01663-00379583-00379671 invention that he
W2iPWujuGrI-01664-00379672-00379815 you know guy mentioned that john made
W2iPWujuGrI-01665-00379816-00380054 the phone call to a point guy but
W2iPWujuGrI-01666-00380055-00380223 i was on that committee with cynthia and
W2iPWujuGrI-01667-00380224-00380415 john when we selected people
W2iPWujuGrI-01668-00380416-00380695 and uh i am so happy right now that we
W2iPWujuGrI-01669-00380696-00380854 made the selection for guy preston
W2iPWujuGrI-01670-00380855-00380919 because
W2iPWujuGrI-01671-00380920-00381102 the things that he said he was going to
W2iPWujuGrI-01672-00381103-00381287 bring to this commission he has
W2iPWujuGrI-01673-00381288-00381391 delivered on
W2iPWujuGrI-01674-00381392-00381575 this latest grant is just you know i
W2iPWujuGrI-01675-00381576-00381727 think the tip of the iceberg
W2iPWujuGrI-01676-00381728-00381847 and i think he's going to be a great
W2iPWujuGrI-01677-00381848-00382023 asset for santa cruz county moving
W2iPWujuGrI-01678-00382024-00382119 forward
W2iPWujuGrI-01679-00382120-00382399 uh the planners to the planners as uh
W2iPWujuGrI-01680-00382400-00382454 you know
W2iPWujuGrI-01681-00382455-00382615 we have some of the best planners that
W2iPWujuGrI-01682-00382616-00382791 just keep bringing projects
W2iPWujuGrI-01683-00382792-00382958 the hardest thing for them is that we're
W2iPWujuGrI-01684-00382959-00383134 so divided sometimes on where we want to
W2iPWujuGrI-01685-00383135-00383182 go
W2iPWujuGrI-01686-00383183-00383382 that they don't get the true recognition
W2iPWujuGrI-01687-00383383-00383551 because the project they have may not be
W2iPWujuGrI-01688-00383552-00383606 one that
W2iPWujuGrI-01689-00383607-00383895 people always agree with um but you know
W2iPWujuGrI-01690-00383896-00384134 i i think it's it's been a great job for
W2iPWujuGrI-01691-00384135-00384278 everything they've done
W2iPWujuGrI-01692-00384279-00384463 i i think the one thing that i want to
W2iPWujuGrI-01693-00384464-00384623 you know make maybe take a moment to
W2iPWujuGrI-01694-00384624-00384847 clarify is there's been a lot of press
W2iPWujuGrI-01695-00384848-00385071 lately last couple weeks you know the
W2iPWujuGrI-01696-00385072-00385215 studies that we do
W2iPWujuGrI-01697-00385216-00385399 uh you know the the trail the train
W2iPWujuGrI-01698-00385400-00385582 measure d i i just want to make one
W2iPWujuGrI-01699-00385583-00385791 final comment on measure d
W2iPWujuGrI-01700-00385792-00385975 you know it always upset me because you
W2iPWujuGrI-01701-00385976-00386158 know when we come or we get a chance to
W2iPWujuGrI-01702-00386159-00386215 speak
W2iPWujuGrI-01703-00386216-00386382 we have to be so articulate we have to
W2iPWujuGrI-01704-00386383-00386527 be so thoughtful we have to be
W2iPWujuGrI-01705-00386528-00386719 as trina would say we have to be factual
W2iPWujuGrI-01706-00386720-00386871 about what we say
W2iPWujuGrI-01707-00386872-00387023 and so many times people can come to the
W2iPWujuGrI-01708-00387024-00387191 microphone and public comment and say
W2iPWujuGrI-01709-00387192-00387319 anything they want
W2iPWujuGrI-01710-00387320-00387527 and we don't fact check it it's not true
W2iPWujuGrI-01711-00387528-00387734 and i just encourage the public
W2iPWujuGrI-01712-00387735-00387878 to not always believe everything that
W2iPWujuGrI-01713-00387879-00388110 comes across in public comment
W2iPWujuGrI-01714-00388111-00388334 but with regards to measure d my feeling
W2iPWujuGrI-01715-00388335-00388439 is is that
W2iPWujuGrI-01716-00388440-00388702 measure d you know first of all i give
W2iPWujuGrI-01717-00388703-00388863 john leopold credit he was on that
W2iPWujuGrI-01718-00388864-00388943 commission that
W2iPWujuGrI-01719-00388944-00389119 bought the rail trail the greatest
W2iPWujuGrI-01720-00389120-00389334 single decision made for santa cruz
W2iPWujuGrI-01721-00389335-00389415 county
W2iPWujuGrI-01722-00389416-00389575 and as andy said we don't know we're
W2iPWujuGrI-01723-00389576-00389734 going to do with it yet but we'll figure
W2iPWujuGrI-01724-00389735-00389782 it out
W2iPWujuGrI-01725-00389783-00390078 but with measure d you know if you
W2iPWujuGrI-01726-00390079-00390206 didn't vote for measure d
W2iPWujuGrI-01727-00390207-00390343 it's like you almost didn't want to vote
W2iPWujuGrI-01728-00390344-00390591 for a cure for the coronavirus because
W2iPWujuGrI-01729-00390592-00390839 because measure d was something that was
W2iPWujuGrI-01730-00390840-00391006 had something good for everybody so it
W2iPWujuGrI-01731-00391007-00391127 always bothered me when
W2iPWujuGrI-01732-00391128-00391302 certain groups would take credit for how
W2iPWujuGrI-01733-00391303-00391447 they passed measure d
W2iPWujuGrI-01734-00391448-00391606 as far as i'm concerned measure d should
W2iPWujuGrI-01735-00391607-00391758 have been a 100
W2iPWujuGrI-01736-00391759-00391975 measure because it helped everybody i've
W2iPWujuGrI-01737-00391976-00392134 been a metro rep for
W2iPWujuGrI-01738-00392135-00392263 for the whole time i've been on this
W2iPWujuGrI-01739-00392264-00392471 commission there was something good for
W2iPWujuGrI-01740-00392472-00392654 everybody there and put your differences
W2iPWujuGrI-01741-00392655-00392743 aside
W2iPWujuGrI-01742-00392744-00392895 sometimes you have to take one for the
W2iPWujuGrI-01743-00392896-00393054 team and do what's good for santa cruz
W2iPWujuGrI-01744-00393055-00393158 county so
W2iPWujuGrI-01745-00393159-00393351 we just saw the fruits of that with this
W2iPWujuGrI-01746-00393352-00393543 latest grant and i'm excited about that
W2iPWujuGrI-01747-00393544-00393678 moving forward
W2iPWujuGrI-01748-00393679-00393863 i do want to make one final comment
W2iPWujuGrI-01749-00393864-00393991 because you know sometimes as
W2iPWujuGrI-01750-00393992-00394071 commissioners
W2iPWujuGrI-01751-00394072-00394206 we don't get a chance to engage in
W2iPWujuGrI-01752-00394207-00394382 conversation it seems like most of our
W2iPWujuGrI-01753-00394383-00394471 meetings
W2iPWujuGrI-01754-00394472-00394678 are public comment and what people have
W2iPWujuGrI-01755-00394679-00394871 to say to us but rare will we get to
W2iPWujuGrI-01756-00394872-00394967 share
W2iPWujuGrI-01757-00394968-00395254 and uh you know i was on a a committee
W2iPWujuGrI-01758-00395255-00395375 that went back our
W2iPWujuGrI-01759-00395376-00395519 committee actually went back with a guy
W2iPWujuGrI-01760-00395520-00395671 you might remember his name was george
W2iPWujuGrI-01761-00395672-00395767 dondero
W2iPWujuGrI-01762-00395768-00395975 and we went back to uh minnesota and
W2iPWujuGrI-01763-00395976-00396127 trump through the snow which
W2iPWujuGrI-01764-00396128-00396295 which i think george's knees still hurt
W2iPWujuGrI-01765-00396296-00396487 from that trip but
W2iPWujuGrI-01766-00396488-00396654 in order to try to find somebody to run
W2iPWujuGrI-01767-00396655-00396887 a train and i got to tell you
W2iPWujuGrI-01768-00396888-00397047 you know we don't get to vote and when
W2iPWujuGrI-01769-00397048-00397230 this tca commission came out
W2iPWujuGrI-01770-00397231-00397391 one of the recent letters that came out
W2iPWujuGrI-01771-00397392-00397534 that said that the commission
W2iPWujuGrI-01772-00397535-00397767 that was selected to analyze that i sit
W2iPWujuGrI-01773-00397768-00397975 on was a biased committee
W2iPWujuGrI-01774-00397976-00398182 and uh i just want you to know that i
W2iPWujuGrI-01775-00398183-00398278 shared this with
W2iPWujuGrI-01776-00398279-00398471 guy preston when i first came you know
W2iPWujuGrI-01777-00398472-00398663 just for the fact sometimes as you walk
W2iPWujuGrI-01778-00398664-00398782 out the door there's got to be
W2iPWujuGrI-01779-00398783-00398895 disclosure
W2iPWujuGrI-01780-00398896-00399110 i've never been in favor of the train i
W2iPWujuGrI-01781-00399111-00399199 don't think it's a good
W2iPWujuGrI-01782-00399200-00399551 idea uh and i think uh chair mcpherson
W2iPWujuGrI-01783-00399552-00399751 came out last meeting and said something
W2iPWujuGrI-01784-00399752-00399934 so i want you to know that there are
W2iPWujuGrI-01785-00399935-00400063 people that don't
W2iPWujuGrI-01786-00400064-00400206 necessarily say something but there's
W2iPWujuGrI-01787-00400207-00400391 got to be an opportunity to voice that
W2iPWujuGrI-01788-00400392-00400558 opinion you just can't come out
W2iPWujuGrI-01789-00400559-00400782 and say that well other than randy randy
W2iPWujuGrI-01790-00400783-00400943 said it every meeting but that's
W2iPWujuGrI-01791-00400944-00401182 a different personality so i want the
W2iPWujuGrI-01792-00401183-00401343 public to know that this
W2iPWujuGrI-01793-00401344-00401575 commission this body evaluates
W2iPWujuGrI-01794-00401576-00401647 everything
W2iPWujuGrI-01795-00401648-00401854 and they look at everything and they see
W2iPWujuGrI-01796-00401855-00402054 a lot more than you might see and
W2iPWujuGrI-01797-00402055-00402254 and it's just not about a single issue
W2iPWujuGrI-01798-00402255-00402495 so i commend all of you moving forward
W2iPWujuGrI-01799-00402496-00402663 when you make decisions about what to do
W2iPWujuGrI-01800-00402664-00402895 with that corridor uh and i applaud you
W2iPWujuGrI-01801-00402896-00402991 for your service and
W2iPWujuGrI-01802-00402992-00403134 and wish you the best of luck and
W2iPWujuGrI-01803-00403135-00403263 especially you're really ill you're
W2iPWujuGrI-01804-00403264-00403375 gonna be a great chair
W2iPWujuGrI-01805-00403376-00403678 thank you very much
W2iPWujuGrI-01806-00403679-00403999 thank you mr leopold
W2iPWujuGrI-01807-00404000-00404319 thank you chair uh
W2iPWujuGrI-01808-00404320-00404534 it's hard to put all the words together
W2iPWujuGrI-01809-00404535-00404702 about how i feel about my service on the
W2iPWujuGrI-01810-00404703-00404799 regional transportation
W2iPWujuGrI-01811-00404800-00404991 commission because when i came here 12
W2iPWujuGrI-01812-00404992-00405215 years ago
W2iPWujuGrI-01813-00405216-00405567 the the policy discussions
W2iPWujuGrI-01814-00405568-00405782 at the rtc were very different than they
W2iPWujuGrI-01815-00405783-00405958 are today
W2iPWujuGrI-01816-00405959-00406319 i called it the era of no there was one
W2iPWujuGrI-01817-00406320-00406399 side who
W2iPWujuGrI-01818-00406400-00406567 didn't want anything to happen to the
W2iPWujuGrI-01819-00406568-00406702 highway and they were
W2iPWujuGrI-01820-00406703-00406958 a very loud no and there were the other
W2iPWujuGrI-01821-00406959-00407127 side who wanted something happen to the
W2iPWujuGrI-01822-00407128-00407302 to the highway and they made sure to say
W2iPWujuGrI-01823-00407303-00407502 no on everything else
W2iPWujuGrI-01824-00407503-00407791 and as a result we went through decades
W2iPWujuGrI-01825-00407792-00408015 of not getting anything done
W2iPWujuGrI-01826-00408016-00408430 um and it was bewildering to me when i
W2iPWujuGrI-01827-00408431-00408558 got here
W2iPWujuGrI-01828-00408559-00408863 uh and it started to change in 2011 when
W2iPWujuGrI-01829-00408864-00409015 there was a series of votes
W2iPWujuGrI-01830-00409016-00409351 uh about uh what was going to be our ctc
W2iPWujuGrI-01831-00409352-00409607 request and it and we've moved from
W2iPWujuGrI-01832-00409608-00409782 focusing on one project
W2iPWujuGrI-01833-00409783-00409910 to thinking about the entire
W2iPWujuGrI-01834-00409912-00410134 transportation system and we were
W2iPWujuGrI-01835-00410135-00410270 successful then
W2iPWujuGrI-01836-00410271-00410582 and then the the we also started doing
W2iPWujuGrI-01837-00410583-00410647 work
W2iPWujuGrI-01838-00410647-00410951 on uh building a community uh support
W2iPWujuGrI-01839-00410952-00411126 for the purchase of the rail line
W2iPWujuGrI-01840-00411127-00411518 and as uh andy mentioned it it was
W2iPWujuGrI-01841-00411519-00411695 although the commission voted
W2iPWujuGrI-01842-00411696-00411839 unanimously
W2iPWujuGrI-01843-00411839-00412182 to uh to support the acquisition of that
W2iPWujuGrI-01844-00412183-00412270 rail line
W2iPWujuGrI-01845-00412271-00412534 after 20 years of discussion uh we went
W2iPWujuGrI-01846-00412535-00412639 to the rtc
W2iPWujuGrI-01847-00412639-00412951 on the i mean the ctc on the very last
W2iPWujuGrI-01848-00412952-00413095 day that we could even
W2iPWujuGrI-01849-00413096-00413430 acquire those funds uh and they were
W2iPWujuGrI-01850-00413431-00413670 suspicious about what we wanted because
W2iPWujuGrI-01851-00413671-00414007 for so long our commission had been um
W2iPWujuGrI-01852-00414008-00414295 in this era of no and and had filled
W2iPWujuGrI-01853-00414296-00414455 their minds with lots of things about
W2iPWujuGrI-01854-00414456-00414622 what they wanted to do or didn't want to
W2iPWujuGrI-01855-00414623-00414703 do or
W2iPWujuGrI-01856-00414704-00414951 anything else and when we could come
W2iPWujuGrI-01857-00414952-00415134 with a unanimous decision
W2iPWujuGrI-01858-00415135-00415439 they saw that we had finally uh found
W2iPWujuGrI-01859-00415439-00415534 some way to
W2iPWujuGrI-01860-00415535-00415751 get an agreement and we built a very
W2iPWujuGrI-01861-00415752-00415918 strong coalition of labor
W2iPWujuGrI-01862-00415919-00416191 business environmental groups uh
W2iPWujuGrI-01863-00416192-00416334 recreation
W2iPWujuGrI-01864-00416335-00416670 um uh transportation groups uh to
W2iPWujuGrI-01865-00416671-00416759 support that
W2iPWujuGrI-01866-00416760-00417007 and uh it'll be a chapter in my memoirs
W2iPWujuGrI-01867-00417008-00417087 about just the
W2iPWujuGrI-01868-00417088-00417318 the you know the story of acquisition of
W2iPWujuGrI-01869-00417319-00417487 that line because it required going all
W2iPWujuGrI-01870-00417488-00417574 over the state
W2iPWujuGrI-01871-00417575-00417847 and fighting with caltrans and then
W2iPWujuGrI-01872-00417847-00417959 supervisor
W2iPWujuGrI-01873-00417960-00418159 mark stone and i uh had to do some
W2iPWujuGrI-01874-00418160-00418422 battle uh with the caltrans staff and
W2iPWujuGrI-01875-00418423-00418695 leadership um but the acquisition of
W2iPWujuGrI-01876-00418696-00418782 that line uh
W2iPWujuGrI-01877-00418783-00419134 actually symbolized a new era
W2iPWujuGrI-01878-00419135-00419487 in uh the uh for this commission
W2iPWujuGrI-01879-00419488-00419614 because we said we weren't just
W2iPWujuGrI-01880-00419615-00419791 committing to one thing you know
W2iPWujuGrI-01881-00419792-00419951 previously just been the highway
W2iPWujuGrI-01882-00419952-00420183 and that we were looking at other ways
W2iPWujuGrI-01883-00420184-00420359 to move people around
W2iPWujuGrI-01884-00420360-00420679 and through those discussions it led us
W2iPWujuGrI-01885-00420680-00420751 to having
W2iPWujuGrI-01886-00420752-00421063 a good soul-searching discussion with
W2iPWujuGrI-01887-00421064-00421143 this commission
W2iPWujuGrI-01888-00421143-00421455 about how we wanted to fund it you those
W2iPWujuGrI-01889-00421456-00421599 of you around remember that
W2iPWujuGrI-01890-00421600-00421966 in 2004 uh the rtc put a transportation
W2iPWujuGrI-01891-00421967-00422047 measure on
W2iPWujuGrI-01892-00422047-00422207 that failed to even get a majority let
W2iPWujuGrI-01893-00422208-00422351 alone two-thirds
W2iPWujuGrI-01894-00422352-00422622 and we uh worked very hard this
W2iPWujuGrI-01895-00422623-00422807 commission worked very hard
W2iPWujuGrI-01896-00422808-00423135 um to uh put together uh
W2iPWujuGrI-01897-00423135-00423366 a measure and i was glad to be the chair
W2iPWujuGrI-01898-00423367-00423543 uh uh during uh
W2iPWujuGrI-01899-00423543-00423870 uh this uh period where we could um
W2iPWujuGrI-01900-00423871-00424110 uh put together a measure that that
W2iPWujuGrI-01901-00424112-00424283 looked at all the different modes of
W2iPWujuGrI-01902-00424284-00424447 transportation and
W2iPWujuGrI-01903-00424447-00424783 um it was near unanimous support to put
W2iPWujuGrI-01904-00424784-00424918 it on i think it was only randy that
W2iPWujuGrI-01905-00424919-00425039 voted against it but
W2iPWujuGrI-01906-00425039-00425222 he voted for it when it came to the
W2iPWujuGrI-01907-00425223-00425375 scots valley city council
W2iPWujuGrI-01908-00425376-00425591 so i'll consider that unanimous support
W2iPWujuGrI-01909-00425592-00425727 and um
W2iPWujuGrI-01910-00425728-00425895 and then we went out to the public and i
W2iPWujuGrI-01911-00425896-00426047 want to thank uh
W2iPWujuGrI-01912-00426047-00426399 uh bruce for uh for recognizing the work
W2iPWujuGrI-01913-00426400-00426447 we did
W2iPWujuGrI-01914-00426447-00426783 on the campaign of i
W2iPWujuGrI-01915-00426784-00426991 bruce and don lane who was then a
W2iPWujuGrI-01916-00426992-00427222 commissioner uh played a leadership role
W2iPWujuGrI-01917-00427223-00427422 on the campaign committee and we had to
W2iPWujuGrI-01918-00427423-00427591 raise an extraordinary amount of money
W2iPWujuGrI-01919-00427592-00427670 we had to work
W2iPWujuGrI-01920-00427671-00427927 really hard everybody on the commission
W2iPWujuGrI-01921-00427928-00428007 played a role
W2iPWujuGrI-01922-00428008-00428287 in passing that and i think we were
W2iPWujuGrI-01923-00428288-00428391 successful not
W2iPWujuGrI-01924-00428392-00428759 only because we were uh
W2iPWujuGrI-01925-00428760-00429039 presenting a multi-modal package that i
W2iPWujuGrI-01926-00429039-00429110 may not have been
W2iPWujuGrI-01927-00429112-00429391 for the highway but i wanted the the the
W2iPWujuGrI-01928-00429392-00429455 trail
W2iPWujuGrI-01929-00429456-00429703 or the or the pedestrian bike bridge or
W2iPWujuGrI-01930-00429704-00429887 someone else wanted roads and someone
W2iPWujuGrI-01931-00429888-00429966 else
W2iPWujuGrI-01932-00429967-00430127 wanted the highway 9 corridor and
W2iPWujuGrI-01933-00430128-00430366 someone else
W2iPWujuGrI-01934-00430367-00430663 wanted some other mode of transportation
W2iPWujuGrI-01935-00430664-00430751 that worked
W2iPWujuGrI-01936-00430752-00430966 but i also think that we were presenting
W2iPWujuGrI-01937-00430967-00431239 a positive
W2iPWujuGrI-01938-00431239-00431543 set of programs about what we could do
W2iPWujuGrI-01939-00431543-00431870 it is so easy to organize around no
W2iPWujuGrI-01940-00431871-00432110 um but it's it takes work to organize
W2iPWujuGrI-01941-00432112-00432279 around yes but the results are so much
W2iPWujuGrI-01942-00432280-00432414 more positive
W2iPWujuGrI-01943-00432415-00432783 um after that you know our success there
W2iPWujuGrI-01944-00432784-00432831 and
W2iPWujuGrI-01945-00432832-00433135 for anybody who uh uh uh
W2iPWujuGrI-01946-00433135-00433287 puts it down or even claims
W2iPWujuGrI-01947-00433288-00433495 responsibility claims responsibility for
W2iPWujuGrI-01948-00433496-00433591 passing it
W2iPWujuGrI-01949-00433592-00433870 is is probably wrong because it really
W2iPWujuGrI-01950-00433871-00433999 was a community-wide
W2iPWujuGrI-01951-00434000-00434335 uh effort and um
W2iPWujuGrI-01952-00434335-00434591 we did the unified corridor study again
W2iPWujuGrI-01953-00434592-00434759 another big project
W2iPWujuGrI-01954-00434760-00435070 um and our staff did a great job
W2iPWujuGrI-01955-00435071-00435327 and at the end of it we were unanimous
W2iPWujuGrI-01956-00435328-00435518 in and talking about what we wanted to
W2iPWujuGrI-01957-00435519-00435614 do with that
W2iPWujuGrI-01958-00435615-00435927 that is a direct uh result i mean that
W2iPWujuGrI-01959-00435928-00436014 is a direct
W2iPWujuGrI-01960-00436015-00436207 consequence of why we were successful
W2iPWujuGrI-01961-00436208-00436335 getting the largest
W2iPWujuGrI-01962-00436335-00436655 brand from the ctc we've ever received
W2iPWujuGrI-01963-00436656-00437063 and so you know we hear a lot of uh
W2iPWujuGrI-01964-00437064-00437391 uh encouragement to do to do uh
W2iPWujuGrI-01965-00437392-00437679 to vote no on things and there's a lot
W2iPWujuGrI-01966-00437680-00437743 of people
W2iPWujuGrI-01967-00437743-00437903 as my colleagues appointed who may not
W2iPWujuGrI-01968-00437904-00438118 be as well informed who tell us no
W2iPWujuGrI-01969-00438119-00438351 on things but when we say yes to things
W2iPWujuGrI-01970-00438352-00438543 we actually get things done we are
W2iPWujuGrI-01971-00438543-00438743 actually going to get things done on all
W2iPWujuGrI-01972-00438743-00438895 of our major corridors before
W2iPWujuGrI-01973-00438896-00439070 because of this grant we are actually
W2iPWujuGrI-01974-00439071-00439318 got the largest funding transportation
W2iPWujuGrI-01975-00439319-00439551 funding measure
W2iPWujuGrI-01976-00439552-00439918 for our multimodal plan in history we
W2iPWujuGrI-01977-00439919-00440151 actually acquired this rail line because
W2iPWujuGrI-01978-00440152-00440263 we agreed
W2iPWujuGrI-01979-00440264-00440599 and so i want to encourage you to not
W2iPWujuGrI-01980-00440600-00440927 um fall to the easy position in the
W2iPWujuGrI-01981-00440928-00441110 future of saying no to something but
W2iPWujuGrI-01982-00441112-00441231 really uh
W2iPWujuGrI-01983-00441232-00441518 doing the hard work uh to get to yes
W2iPWujuGrI-01984-00441519-00441670 because we get a lot more done when we
W2iPWujuGrI-01985-00441671-00441807 do that
W2iPWujuGrI-01986-00441808-00442063 i want to thank my colleagues uh for the
W2iPWujuGrI-01987-00442064-00442159 12 years
W2iPWujuGrI-01988-00442160-00442407 on on this board that i've had a chance
W2iPWujuGrI-01989-00442408-00442647 to work with many of you
W2iPWujuGrI-01990-00442647-00442927 on lots of important projects and for
W2iPWujuGrI-01991-00442928-00442966 the
W2iPWujuGrI-01992-00442967-00443207 newer members who i haven't had the same
W2iPWujuGrI-01993-00443208-00443279 uh uh
W2iPWujuGrI-01994-00443280-00443679 term with um i'm confident that of uh
W2iPWujuGrI-01995-00443680-00444039 your ability to to help our community
W2iPWujuGrI-01996-00444039-00444087 move
W2iPWujuGrI-01997-00444088-00444447 forward on transportation i also want to
W2iPWujuGrI-01998-00444447-00444663 acknowledge the staff
W2iPWujuGrI-01999-00444664-00444975 of first george dondero and nike now guy
W2iPWujuGrI-02000-00444976-00445079 preston
W2iPWujuGrI-02001-00445080-00445375 have done a great job in and sometimes
W2iPWujuGrI-02002-00445376-00445551 difficult circumstances
W2iPWujuGrI-02003-00445552-00445799 uh but have worked creatively to try to
W2iPWujuGrI-02004-00445800-00445991 meet the the very needs of this
W2iPWujuGrI-02005-00445992-00446095 commission
W2iPWujuGrI-02006-00446096-00446431 uh guy clearly was the right person uh
W2iPWujuGrI-02007-00446432-00446735 for us to hire um just a few short years
W2iPWujuGrI-02008-00446735-00446814 ago
W2iPWujuGrI-02009-00446815-00447127 um and he presented us in his
W2iPWujuGrI-02010-00447128-00447470 uh interview with a plan of how we were
W2iPWujuGrI-02011-00447471-00447527 going to
W2iPWujuGrI-02012-00447528-00447710 leverage this thing that we just passed
W2iPWujuGrI-02013-00447712-00447879 measure d and
W2iPWujuGrI-02014-00447880-00448199 um and this grant award is a direct
W2iPWujuGrI-02015-00448200-00448583 result of of that plan and so i i want
W2iPWujuGrI-02016-00448584-00448831 to just to acknowledge that hard work
W2iPWujuGrI-02017-00448832-00449039 um and what it takes to actually get
W2iPWujuGrI-02018-00449039-00449199 that kind of stuff done
W2iPWujuGrI-02019-00449200-00449518 uh i also want to uh uh
W2iPWujuGrI-02020-00449519-00449870 just uh recognize uh a couple of
W2iPWujuGrI-02021-00449871-00450175 um staff members uh you know
W2iPWujuGrI-02022-00450176-00450495 uh rachel marconi has been our uh
W2iPWujuGrI-02023-00450496-00450822 amazing legislative liaison has provided
W2iPWujuGrI-02024-00450823-00450847 us
W2iPWujuGrI-02025-00450847-00451166 a great deal of information
W2iPWujuGrI-02026-00451167-00451439 and support for us when we're in
W2iPWujuGrI-02027-00451439-00451518 sacramento
W2iPWujuGrI-02028-00451519-00451895 or washington uh for ginger daikar
W2iPWujuGrI-02029-00451896-00452207 who obviously got the short straw in
W2iPWujuGrI-02030-00452208-00452391 life to get both the unified corridor
W2iPWujuGrI-02031-00452392-00452447 study
W2iPWujuGrI-02032-00452447-00452799 and the tcaa um she you know she must
W2iPWujuGrI-02033-00452800-00452966 have done something in a pat
W2iPWujuGrI-02034-00452967-00453175 past life that gave her these two
W2iPWujuGrI-02035-00453176-00453343 controversial projects
W2iPWujuGrI-02036-00453343-00453695 uh and i just admire her work um
W2iPWujuGrI-02037-00453696-00453959 in getting those things done but uh as
W2iPWujuGrI-02038-00453960-00454199 sarah christensen who's who's inherited
W2iPWujuGrI-02039-00454200-00454543 trying to move us from a
W2iPWujuGrI-02040-00454543-00454870 um a planning agency to a a in
W2iPWujuGrI-02041-00454871-00455199 operations you know delivery product
W2iPWujuGrI-02042-00455200-00455470 delivery agency i really appreciate that
W2iPWujuGrI-02043-00455471-00455566 grace
W2iPWujuGrI-02044-00455567-00455791 and all the other people that make up
W2iPWujuGrI-02045-00455792-00455983 the rtc staff
W2iPWujuGrI-02046-00455984-00456222 it takes a lot of work behind the scenes
W2iPWujuGrI-02047-00456223-00456391 in order to move us forward
W2iPWujuGrI-02048-00456392-00456703 and our staff is uh really incredible
W2iPWujuGrI-02049-00456704-00457031 uh i i'm um
W2iPWujuGrI-02050-00457032-00457191 i'm i'm very proud of the
W2iPWujuGrI-02051-00457192-00457335 accomplishments that we've had over the
W2iPWujuGrI-02052-00457335-00457431 last 12 years
W2iPWujuGrI-02053-00457432-00457614 and i'm confident that this commission
W2iPWujuGrI-02054-00457615-00457855 will be successful in the future
W2iPWujuGrI-02055-00457856-00458039 in helping us realize the projects of
W2iPWujuGrI-02056-00458039-00458279 edu and then thinking about ways to
W2iPWujuGrI-02057-00458280-00458422 effectively move us around
W2iPWujuGrI-02058-00458423-00458766 in um in this county there's a lot that
W2iPWujuGrI-02059-00458767-00458863 we can do
W2iPWujuGrI-02060-00458864-00458983 and if we work together we can
W2iPWujuGrI-02061-00458984-00459118 accomplish a lot and i just want to
W2iPWujuGrI-02062-00459119-00459310 thank you for the kind comments
W2iPWujuGrI-02063-00459312-00459551 and and i look forward to uh watching
W2iPWujuGrI-02064-00459552-00459687 with a great interest
W2iPWujuGrI-02065-00459688-00460063 as citizen leopold very good well thank
W2iPWujuGrI-02066-00460064-00460247 you all for um
W2iPWujuGrI-02067-00460247-00460591 your comments uh very well received uh
W2iPWujuGrI-02068-00460592-00460918 and very very uh much deeply meant
W2iPWujuGrI-02069-00460919-00461207 by everybody who made those comments um
W2iPWujuGrI-02070-00461208-00461383 i don't know
W2iPWujuGrI-02071-00461384-00461599 one last thing i forgot to mention
W2iPWujuGrI-02072-00461600-00461710 louise mendez
W2iPWujuGrI-02073-00461712-00461991 uh and i really apologize for that he is
W2iPWujuGrI-02074-00461992-00462014 the
W2iPWujuGrI-02075-00462015-00462343 the um the the detailed uh
W2iPWujuGrI-02076-00462343-00462566 person on this rail corridor and we
W2iPWujuGrI-02077-00462567-00462647 wouldn't
W2iPWujuGrI-02078-00462647-00462855 there are so many difficult questions
W2iPWujuGrI-02079-00462856-00463070 that that we've counted on louise
W2iPWujuGrI-02080-00463071-00463359 to figure out and wrestle with and i
W2iPWujuGrI-02081-00463360-00463487 don't know how we would
W2iPWujuGrI-02082-00463488-00463670 have done it all the work that we have
W2iPWujuGrI-02083-00463671-00463799 on that corridor
W2iPWujuGrI-02084-00463800-00464007 without his expertise and i i forgot to
W2iPWujuGrI-02085-00464008-00464151 mention that and he's been just a
W2iPWujuGrI-02086-00464152-00464391 treasured member of our staff thank you
W2iPWujuGrI-02087-00464392-00464503 very much
W2iPWujuGrI-02088-00464504-00464655 all right thank you mr calm from the
W2iPWujuGrI-02089-00464656-00464870 romance miss bottdorf and
W2iPWujuGrI-02090-00464871-00465079 mr leopold it's just really been great
W2iPWujuGrI-02091-00465080-00465318 to work with you on this commission
W2iPWujuGrI-02092-00465319-00465495 and i don't know that we need we could
W2iPWujuGrI-02093-00465496-00465663 be here a long time if we opened up the
W2iPWujuGrI-02094-00465664-00465710 public
W2iPWujuGrI-02095-00465712-00465863 i don't think we'll do that at this
W2iPWujuGrI-02096-00465864-00465999 point i know there are a lot of people
W2iPWujuGrI-02097-00466000-00466135 would like to thank you and i
W2iPWujuGrI-02098-00466135-00466407 already have and they will and your your
W2iPWujuGrI-02099-00466408-00466591 respective retirement uh
W2iPWujuGrI-02100-00466592-00466822 parties or whatever you might be doing
W2iPWujuGrI-02101-00466823-00466895 so uh
W2iPWujuGrI-02102-00466896-00467095 i think we'll leave it at that and uh
W2iPWujuGrI-02103-00467096-00467255 say and so we can move on
W2iPWujuGrI-02104-00467256-00467535 uh but thank you so much uh each of you
W2iPWujuGrI-02105-00467535-00467670 for your services
W2iPWujuGrI-02106-00467671-00467927 on the santa cruz regional
W2iPWujuGrI-02107-00467928-00468055 transportation commission
W2iPWujuGrI-02108-00468056-00468295 very much appreciated and people are
W2iPWujuGrI-02109-00468296-00468479 going to enjoy and appreciate this for
W2iPWujuGrI-02110-00468480-00468663 many many years and decades to come
W2iPWujuGrI-02111-00468664-00468839 of what you have done and laid the
W2iPWujuGrI-02112-00468839-00469031 groundwork for us to
W2iPWujuGrI-02113-00469032-00469247 get around this county uh a little
W2iPWujuGrI-02114-00469247-00469343 better than we
W2iPWujuGrI-02115-00469343-00469559 we might have anticipated so thank you
W2iPWujuGrI-02116-00469560-00469718 again for everything
W2iPWujuGrI-02117-00469719-00470070 and i think we will now move on to items
W2iPWujuGrI-02118-00470071-00470366 yes i'm sorry we do have one comment on
W2iPWujuGrI-02119-00470367-00470422 the
W2iPWujuGrI-02120-00470423-00470718 uh director's report from the public
W2iPWujuGrI-02121-00470719-00470751 yeah
W2iPWujuGrI-02122-00470752-00471103 i'm sorry um that's okay go ahead please
W2iPWujuGrI-02123-00471104-00471422 mr bryan peoples
W2iPWujuGrI-02124-00471423-00471791 hey thanks a lot um absolutely
W2iPWujuGrI-02125-00471792-00472103 successful really happy about the
W2iPWujuGrI-02126-00472104-00472191 highway
W2iPWujuGrI-02127-00472192-00472422 the grant you know guy came in he's
W2iPWujuGrI-02128-00472423-00472663 executing as he said he would do
W2iPWujuGrI-02129-00472664-00472943 so we're very happy really like it that
W2iPWujuGrI-02130-00472943-00473039 patrick
W2iPWujuGrI-02131-00473039-00473391 pointed out the ucs execution of that
W2iPWujuGrI-02132-00473392-00473566 was important for this grant we actually
W2iPWujuGrI-02133-00473567-00473727 did support it we didn't approve
W2iPWujuGrI-02134-00473728-00474047 we didn't support the conclusion of it
W2iPWujuGrI-02135-00474047-00474095 or the
W2iPWujuGrI-02136-00474096-00474431 the final conclusion and really
W2iPWujuGrI-02137-00474432-00474591 appreciate your comment
W2iPWujuGrI-02138-00474592-00474918 um taking you off my uh bad christmas
W2iPWujuGrI-02139-00474919-00474959 list
W2iPWujuGrI-02140-00474960-00475287 now appreciate that um
W2iPWujuGrI-02141-00475288-00475510 then uh measure d you know i think you
W2iPWujuGrI-02142-00475512-00475695 guys a lot of you are saying that we
W2iPWujuGrI-02143-00475696-00475751 claim vic
W2iPWujuGrI-02144-00475752-00476143 uh helping support we supported it but
W2iPWujuGrI-02145-00476143-00476383 just to make sure the history's there
W2iPWujuGrI-02146-00476384-00476599 originally came out with 14 million
W2iPWujuGrI-02147-00476600-00476791 dollars for the monterey county trailer
W2iPWujuGrI-02148-00476792-00476959 we want to keep this to the uh
W2iPWujuGrI-02149-00476960-00477166 actual report from the executive direct
W2iPWujuGrI-02150-00477167-00477303 director not uh
W2iPWujuGrI-02151-00477304-00477518 none other oral communications yeah yeah
W2iPWujuGrI-02152-00477519-00477679 okay
W2iPWujuGrI-02153-00477680-00477910 in general we we supported measure b and
W2iPWujuGrI-02154-00477912-00478039 we helped execute it
W2iPWujuGrI-02155-00478039-00478303 the last thing i want to mention is um
W2iPWujuGrI-02156-00478304-00478351 john
W2iPWujuGrI-02157-00478352-00478639 leopold you know yeah thank you for your
W2iPWujuGrI-02158-00478639-00478775 service and i'll tell you
W2iPWujuGrI-02159-00478776-00479095 you really are uh
W2iPWujuGrI-02160-00479096-00479407 exceptional um politician
W2iPWujuGrI-02161-00479408-00479607 and working it because you do something
W2iPWujuGrI-02162-00479608-00479710 that i could do
W2iPWujuGrI-02163-00479712-00479959 you stand up you have the public come up
W2iPWujuGrI-02164-00479960-00480047 there and they
W2iPWujuGrI-02165-00480047-00480327 they they give you guys a hard time all
W2iPWujuGrI-02166-00480328-00480399 of you guys do
W2iPWujuGrI-02167-00480400-00480639 that and it's a very difficult job
W2iPWujuGrI-02168-00480639-00480870 people don't understand how difficult it
W2iPWujuGrI-02169-00480871-00480951 is
W2iPWujuGrI-02170-00480952-00481199 the role that you play so i really
W2iPWujuGrI-02171-00481200-00481287 appreciate
W2iPWujuGrI-02172-00481288-00481599 what you did in the sense of taking
W2iPWujuGrI-02173-00481600-00481999 um the taking the breath of the public
W2iPWujuGrI-02174-00482000-00482199 because you're in a spot that i'll be
W2iPWujuGrI-02175-00482200-00482359 honest with you i couldn't do that
W2iPWujuGrI-02176-00482360-00482591 so i just wanted to say thank you and i
W2iPWujuGrI-02177-00482592-00482695 thought you did
W2iPWujuGrI-02178-00482696-00482983 uh do that professionally as best as you
W2iPWujuGrI-02179-00482984-00483055 could
W2iPWujuGrI-02180-00483056-00483287 so i just wanted to to make sure you
W2iPWujuGrI-02181-00483288-00483391 knew that
W2iPWujuGrI-02182-00483392-00483639 leaving that i thought that you you know
W2iPWujuGrI-02183-00483639-00483847 you could do something that i personally
W2iPWujuGrI-02184-00483847-00483903 couldn't do
W2iPWujuGrI-02185-00483904-00484087 i couldn't get in front of it and deal
W2iPWujuGrI-02186-00484088-00484310 with that so i appreciate that
W2iPWujuGrI-02187-00484312-00484614 ed and drina as well
W2iPWujuGrI-02188-00484615-00484903 thank you very much over okay thank you
W2iPWujuGrI-02189-00484904-00485014 brian i would say
W2iPWujuGrI-02190-00485015-00485239 uh i couldn't do what you did have done
W2iPWujuGrI-02191-00485239-00485318 which is
W2iPWujuGrI-02192-00485319-00485631 engage in personal attacks and and uh
W2iPWujuGrI-02193-00485632-00485927 and anti-semitic behavior so uh uh thank
W2iPWujuGrI-02194-00485928-00486151 you for your comments
W2iPWujuGrI-02195-00486152-00486575 oh no let's uh move on please
W2iPWujuGrI-02196-00486576-00487022 uh we're gonna move on to
W2iPWujuGrI-02197-00487023-00487647 the item number 20 the caltrans report
W2iPWujuGrI-02198-00487647-00487831 thank you mr chair and members of the
W2iPWujuGrI-02199-00487832-00488022 commission scott eads here
W2iPWujuGrI-02200-00488023-00488247 have a few edits to share with you uh
W2iPWujuGrI-02201-00488247-00488510 first congratulations again to
W2iPWujuGrI-02202-00488512-00488743 the staff and the commission for the
W2iPWujuGrI-02203-00488743-00488999 funding recommendation for ctc that is a
W2iPWujuGrI-02204-00489000-00489087 really big deal
W2iPWujuGrI-02205-00489088-00489318 there is a enormous amount of work that
W2iPWujuGrI-02206-00489319-00489503 goes into these funding applications and
W2iPWujuGrI-02207-00489504-00489655 strategizing
W2iPWujuGrI-02208-00489656-00489839 you know specifically which projects to
W2iPWujuGrI-02209-00489839-00489983 include and
W2iPWujuGrI-02210-00489984-00490295 how to support
W2iPWujuGrI-02211-00490296-00490607 that information with the right mix of
W2iPWujuGrI-02212-00490608-00490807 supporting information and all that that
W2iPWujuGrI-02213-00490808-00490910 takes so
W2iPWujuGrI-02214-00490912-00491127 really shout out to the commission and
W2iPWujuGrI-02215-00491128-00491335 the staff it's a really big deal
W2iPWujuGrI-02216-00491335-00491503 i'm really a testament to all your hard
W2iPWujuGrI-02217-00491504-00491718 work and along those lines just want to
W2iPWujuGrI-02218-00491719-00491862 highlight there's a few other projects
W2iPWujuGrI-02219-00491863-00492039 in district five that also received a
W2iPWujuGrI-02220-00492039-00492183 funding recommendation
W2iPWujuGrI-02221-00492184-00492510 on the san luis obispo 46 corridor we
W2iPWujuGrI-02222-00492512-00492743 received 7.3 million dollars to continue
W2iPWujuGrI-02223-00492743-00492895 the progress there
W2iPWujuGrI-02224-00492896-00493207 um to to allow us to um
W2iPWujuGrI-02225-00493208-00493366 continue the work that really sort of
W2iPWujuGrI-02226-00493367-00493503 straight movement that serves the
W2iPWujuGrI-02227-00493504-00493551 central
W2iPWujuGrI-02228-00493552-00493862 the central coast and then uh more close
W2iPWujuGrI-02229-00493863-00493895 to
W2iPWujuGrI-02230-00493896-00494151 santa cruz the the 156 caster bill
W2iPWujuGrI-02231-00494152-00494318 boulevard interchange
W2iPWujuGrI-02232-00494319-00494575 in monterey county also received a
W2iPWujuGrI-02233-00494576-00494718 funding recommendation so those both of
W2iPWujuGrI-02234-00494719-00494807 those are
W2iPWujuGrI-02235-00494808-00494935 important projects that are moving
W2iPWujuGrI-02236-00494935-00495127 forward and we appreciate the
W2iPWujuGrI-02237-00495128-00495462 the commissions the ctc
W2iPWujuGrI-02238-00495463-00495647 uh support for that those funding to
W2iPWujuGrI-02239-00495647-00495799 move those forward
W2iPWujuGrI-02240-00495800-00495991 um i also want to highlight that we're
W2iPWujuGrI-02241-00495992-00496135 all aware of the fact that we have a
W2iPWujuGrI-02242-00496135-00496287 diminishing funding source
W2iPWujuGrI-02243-00496288-00496495 in in terms of the gas tax that supports
W2iPWujuGrI-02244-00496496-00496703 sb1 and other funding programs
W2iPWujuGrI-02245-00496704-00496870 and so caltrans right now is in the
W2iPWujuGrI-02246-00496871-00497070 process of seeking volunteers to do
W2iPWujuGrI-02247-00497071-00497247 research on a
W2iPWujuGrI-02248-00497247-00497718 road user charge program um and so if
W2iPWujuGrI-02249-00497719-00497870 you're interested or you have
W2iPWujuGrI-02250-00497871-00498079 constituents that are interested
W2iPWujuGrI-02251-00498080-00498222 the participants are actually eligible
W2iPWujuGrI-02252-00498223-00498359 to receive a hundred dollars in
W2iPWujuGrI-02253-00498360-00498455 incentives
W2iPWujuGrI-02254-00498456-00498622 for the time that they've they spent
W2iPWujuGrI-02255-00498623-00498759 participating in the study and
W2iPWujuGrI-02256-00498760-00498983 for the feedback they provide it's a six
W2iPWujuGrI-02257-00498984-00499175 month demonstration
W2iPWujuGrI-02258-00499176-00499455 it begins in january 2021 and it'll go
W2iPWujuGrI-02259-00499456-00499655 for about six months
W2iPWujuGrI-02260-00499656-00499887 and uh if you're interested you can go
W2iPWujuGrI-02261-00499888-00500251 to ca
W2iPWujuGrI-02262-00500252-00500510 roadcharge.com and that's the place
W2iPWujuGrI-02263-00500512-00500583 where you
W2iPWujuGrI-02264-00500584-00500862 can sign up and then also just want to
W2iPWujuGrI-02265-00500863-00500966 highlight that as
W2iPWujuGrI-02266-00500967-00501191 uh you know the the changes and
W2iPWujuGrI-02267-00501192-00501318 realities in kovac
W2iPWujuGrI-02268-00501319-00501583 as in continues caltrans is still
W2iPWujuGrI-02269-00501584-00501647 issuing
W2iPWujuGrI-02270-00501647-00501855 uh temporary permits for businesses to
W2iPWujuGrI-02271-00501856-00502007 operate within the state highway right
W2iPWujuGrI-02272-00502008-00502127 away so
W2iPWujuGrI-02273-00502128-00502262 um you can work with our permits
W2iPWujuGrI-02274-00502263-00502455 department on that we're trying to do
W2iPWujuGrI-02275-00502456-00502518 what we can
W2iPWujuGrI-02276-00502519-00502831 to allow business uses to continue
W2iPWujuGrI-02277-00502832-00503214 um in this current situation we're in
W2iPWujuGrI-02278-00503215-00503327 and then finally i just wanted to
W2iPWujuGrI-02279-00503328-00503535 highlight that that highway one
W2iPWujuGrI-02280-00503535-00503727 in santa cruz will have intermittent
W2iPWujuGrI-02281-00503728-00503847 ramp closures through the end of the
W2iPWujuGrI-02282-00503847-00503943 year
W2iPWujuGrI-02283-00503943-00504279 uh it'll will primarily be from from 9
W2iPWujuGrI-02284-00504280-00504583 00 a.m to 3 p.m it needs to be done
W2iPWujuGrI-02285-00504584-00504759 during the daylight hours because
W2iPWujuGrI-02286-00504760-00505031 it has to do with uh paint and thermo
W2iPWujuGrI-02287-00505032-00505175 striping that we're putting down and
W2iPWujuGrI-02288-00505176-00505303 that has to have
W2iPWujuGrI-02289-00505304-00505622 daytime conditions to adequately cure
W2iPWujuGrI-02290-00505623-00505895 and we will not be closing more than one
W2iPWujuGrI-02291-00505896-00506007 ramp in a row
W2iPWujuGrI-02292-00506008-00506287 so we know it's disruptive but we need
W2iPWujuGrI-02293-00506288-00506439 to get the work done and we appreciate
W2iPWujuGrI-02294-00506439-00506607 everybody's
W2iPWujuGrI-02295-00506608-00506966 ability to help us out by by uh
W2iPWujuGrI-02296-00506967-00507135 dealing with a little bit extra delay as
W2iPWujuGrI-02297-00507135-00507351 we continue and complete those
W2iPWujuGrI-02298-00507352-00507583 improvements that's all i have today
W2iPWujuGrI-02299-00507584-00507799 happy to take any questions
W2iPWujuGrI-02300-00507800-00507966 uh thank you mr eaves i want to say
W2iPWujuGrI-02301-00507967-00508110 thank you to caltrans for its
W2iPWujuGrI-02302-00508112-00508231 cooperation
W2iPWujuGrI-02303-00508232-00508470 uh you could please pass those uh thanks
W2iPWujuGrI-02304-00508471-00508599 on to mr governs our
W2iPWujuGrI-02305-00508600-00508935 executive director um from our district
W2iPWujuGrI-02306-00508935-00509127 uh that we appreciate his and yours and
W2iPWujuGrI-02307-00509128-00509270 everybody else's
W2iPWujuGrI-02308-00509271-00509462 work on caltrans i can tell you we're
W2iPWujuGrI-02309-00509463-00509695 getting responses not only for the
W2iPWujuGrI-02310-00509696-00509895 work within our counties and cities but
W2iPWujuGrI-02311-00509896-00510110 on the state highways too
W2iPWujuGrI-02312-00510112-00510255 they just wanted to get it all done at
W2iPWujuGrI-02313-00510256-00510422 one time they wanted
W2iPWujuGrI-02314-00510423-00510735 a new uh the
W2iPWujuGrI-02315-00510735-00510951 highway caves and then their stripe at
W2iPWujuGrI-02316-00510952-00511070 the same time and
W2iPWujuGrI-02317-00511071-00511407 just uh i think 99 of the people
W2iPWujuGrI-02318-00511408-00511575 understand and have patience about it
W2iPWujuGrI-02319-00511576-00511679 but it gets there
W2iPWujuGrI-02320-00511680-00511918 thank you very much because uh very much
W2iPWujuGrI-02321-00511919-00511991 noticed
W2iPWujuGrI-02322-00511992-00512207 and very much appreciated and i just
W2iPWujuGrI-02323-00512208-00512447 think for in general discussion uh
W2iPWujuGrI-02324-00512447-00512647 my recollection is uh senate bill one
W2iPWujuGrI-02325-00512647-00512759 we're concerned about
W2iPWujuGrI-02326-00512760-00512999 you know the uh the amount of revenue
W2iPWujuGrI-02327-00513000-00513070 coming here
W2iPWujuGrI-02328-00513071-00513343 as with measure d as well but i think in
W2iPWujuGrI-02329-00513343-00513599 2019 20 of measuring uh
W2iPWujuGrI-02330-00513600-00513791 sb1 we got five and a half million
W2iPWujuGrI-02331-00513792-00513983 dollars and measure d
W2iPWujuGrI-02332-00513984-00514351 2.7 and i think that we're just about on
W2iPWujuGrI-02333-00514352-00514462 the same track
W2iPWujuGrI-02334-00514463-00514670 uh up to date or probably up to the
W2iPWujuGrI-02335-00514671-00514879 middle of this fiscal year
W2iPWujuGrI-02336-00514880-00515095 uh in getting that kind of revenue
W2iPWujuGrI-02337-00515096-00515183 coming in but
W2iPWujuGrI-02338-00515184-00515391 preston knows more details on that than
W2iPWujuGrI-02339-00515392-00515551 i do but uh
W2iPWujuGrI-02340-00515552-00515887 it's so very very important to us
W2iPWujuGrI-02341-00515888-00516055 and i think it gives me another good
W2iPWujuGrI-02342-00516056-00516262 time in the biggest discussions that
W2iPWujuGrI-02343-00516263-00516431 we've had just thank the voters
W2iPWujuGrI-02344-00516432-00516735 for approving measure d and for the
W2iPWujuGrI-02345-00516735-00516831 legislature
W2iPWujuGrI-02346-00516832-00517143 passing sp1 uh i don't impress mr
W2iPWujuGrI-02347-00517143-00517343 preston is that's about right uh we're
W2iPWujuGrI-02348-00517343-00517583 on about the distinct track of funding
W2iPWujuGrI-02349-00517584-00517700 resources from those
W2iPWujuGrI-02350-00517701-00517839 [Music]
W2iPWujuGrI-02351-00517839-00518166 sv1 and measure d at this point yeah we
W2iPWujuGrI-02352-00518167-00518407 haven't seen a significant hit as of yet
W2iPWujuGrI-02353-00518408-00518695 so we're pretty close to being flat on
W2iPWujuGrI-02354-00518696-00518718 our
W2iPWujuGrI-02355-00518719-00519070 um revenue generation
W2iPWujuGrI-02356-00519071-00519239 yeah which in these circumstances i
W2iPWujuGrI-02357-00519239-00519495 think flat is good
W2iPWujuGrI-02358-00519496-00519662 are there any uh questions from
W2iPWujuGrI-02359-00519663-00519918 commissioners um
W2iPWujuGrI-02360-00519919-00520303 on the account then transfer
W2iPWujuGrI-02361-00520304-00520614 yeah uh this is a great cat but
W2iPWujuGrI-02362-00520615-00520966 i'll make a comment i want to thank you
W2iPWujuGrI-02363-00520967-00521303 caltrans the crosswalk pedestrian
W2iPWujuGrI-02364-00521304-00521607 crosswalk by watsonville high school
W2iPWujuGrI-02365-00521608-00521839 is almost complete we've been waiting
W2iPWujuGrI-02366-00521839-00521959 for
W2iPWujuGrI-02367-00521960-00522151 probably about three years to get it
W2iPWujuGrI-02368-00522152-00522318 done so i want to thank you
W2iPWujuGrI-02369-00522319-00522559 it's a 90 percent done they they have
W2iPWujuGrI-02370-00522560-00522862 some electrical work still to do
W2iPWujuGrI-02371-00522863-00523343 and then i guess if we can focus next on
W2iPWujuGrI-02372-00523343-00523679 highway 152 and houlihan and college
W2iPWujuGrI-02373-00523680-00523766 road
W2iPWujuGrI-02374-00523767-00524022 i think we have half of the funding for
W2iPWujuGrI-02375-00524023-00524151 uh
W2iPWujuGrI-02376-00524152-00524495 getting that project done and
W2iPWujuGrI-02377-00524496-00524735 i don't know maybe i can talk to your
W2iPWujuGrI-02378-00524736-00525007 office
W2iPWujuGrI-02379-00525008-00525318 we've applied for grants and uh uh and
W2iPWujuGrI-02380-00525319-00525551 we're trying to get it the other uh
W2iPWujuGrI-02381-00525552-00525662 about 900
W2iPWujuGrI-02382-00525663-00526070 000 uh to you know have enough for the
W2iPWujuGrI-02383-00526071-00526399 complete the project so uh whether or
W2iPWujuGrI-02384-00526400-00526591 not it's possible we can
W2iPWujuGrI-02385-00526592-00526918 spend the money we have the half over
W2iPWujuGrI-02386-00526919-00526959 half
W2iPWujuGrI-02387-00526960-00527270 we do have and then
W2iPWujuGrI-02388-00527271-00527647 get part of the project done
W2iPWujuGrI-02389-00527648-00527927 so that in the future if we're still
W2iPWujuGrI-02390-00527928-00528007 waiting for
W2iPWujuGrI-02391-00528008-00528383 the additional money that we need
W2iPWujuGrI-02392-00528384-00528662 the price doesn't go up for the whole
W2iPWujuGrI-02393-00528663-00528959 project
W2iPWujuGrI-02394-00528960-00529283 okay thank you any other comments from
W2iPWujuGrI-02395-00529284-00529479 commissioners any comments from the
W2iPWujuGrI-02396-00529480-00529759 public
W2iPWujuGrI-02397-00529760-00531135 we have one common mr saint
W2iPWujuGrI-02398-00531136-00531431 mr saint may not be here or muted i'm
W2iPWujuGrI-02399-00531432-00531535 not sure
W2iPWujuGrI-02400-00531536-00531822 we'll give him a couple yeah we can't
W2iPWujuGrI-02401-00531823-00532518 hear you mr saint
W2iPWujuGrI-02402-00532519-00532895 okay i think we'll just have to move on
W2iPWujuGrI-02403-00532896-00533175 to item number 21 uh the highway one
W2iPWujuGrI-02404-00533176-00533351 41st avenue
W2iPWujuGrI-02405-00533352-00533543 uh soquel right away environmental
W2iPWujuGrI-02406-00533544-00533655 mitigation and the
W2iPWujuGrI-02407-00533656-00533895 rtc milestone uh i think sheriff
W2iPWujuGrI-02408-00533896-00534062 christensen is going to be presenting on
W2iPWujuGrI-02409-00534063-00534183 this
W2iPWujuGrI-02410-00534184-00534566 can you hear
W2iPWujuGrI-02411-00534567-00536151 hi thank you thanks chairman clairson
W2iPWujuGrI-02412-00536152-00536335 i'll give one last time mr st would you
W2iPWujuGrI-02413-00536336-00536527 have please for two minutes did you have
W2iPWujuGrI-02414-00536528-00536743 a comment
W2iPWujuGrI-02415-00536744-00536999 yeah can you hear me yes yeah i never
W2iPWujuGrI-02416-00537000-00537214 got the unmute button but i found one in
W2iPWujuGrI-02417-00537215-00537295 the corner here
W2iPWujuGrI-02418-00537296-00537551 sorry about that all right just just a
W2iPWujuGrI-02419-00537552-00537703 very quick comment i didn't know when i
W2iPWujuGrI-02420-00537704-00537927 should make it but
W2iPWujuGrI-02421-00537928-00538070 through all the congratulations i think
W2iPWujuGrI-02422-00538071-00538262 we got a little bit lost there
W2iPWujuGrI-02423-00538263-00538518 uh just with mr mulhern he mentioned
W2iPWujuGrI-02424-00538519-00538695 that this funding that was approved
W2iPWujuGrI-02425-00538696-00538927 yesterday
W2iPWujuGrI-02426-00538928-00539111 and he mentioned the idea that it went
W2iPWujuGrI-02427-00539112-00539335 to dedicated bus lanes i just wanted to
W2iPWujuGrI-02428-00539336-00539535 correct him these are not dedicated bus
W2iPWujuGrI-02429-00539536-00539639 lanes
W2iPWujuGrI-02430-00539640-00539959 these are ox lanes with cars included
W2iPWujuGrI-02431-00539960-00540239 with buses and that's my only comment
W2iPWujuGrI-02432-00540240-00540535 make sure we get the uh grammar correct
W2iPWujuGrI-02433-00540536-00540607 on that
W2iPWujuGrI-02434-00540608-00540903 thank you for your time thank you okay
W2iPWujuGrI-02435-00540904-00540935 now
W2iPWujuGrI-02436-00540936-00541151 miss christensen uh please uh again
W2iPWujuGrI-02437-00541152-00541255 thank you uh
W2iPWujuGrI-02438-00541256-00541535 for accepting the uh interruption there
W2iPWujuGrI-02439-00541536-00541583 uh
W2iPWujuGrI-02440-00541584-00541822 i remember 21 the highway one 41st
W2iPWujuGrI-02441-00541823-00541975 avenue still kill
W2iPWujuGrI-02442-00541976-00542318 right away
W2iPWujuGrI-02443-00542319-00543022 go ahead thank you pearson
W2iPWujuGrI-02444-00543023-00543359 hey thank you um my name is sarah
W2iPWujuGrI-02445-00543360-00543431 christensen
W2iPWujuGrI-02446-00543432-00543679 project manager for the highway projects
W2iPWujuGrI-02447-00543680-00543759 and i
W2iPWujuGrI-02448-00543760-00544143 am here today to check a few things
W2iPWujuGrI-02449-00544144-00544422 off of our list to achieve the
W2iPWujuGrI-02450-00544423-00544687 ready-to-list milestone for this project
W2iPWujuGrI-02451-00544688-00545281 so the project is the auxiliary lane
W2iPWujuGrI-02452-00545282-00545647 [Music]
W2iPWujuGrI-02453-00545648-00545911 a new bicycle and pedestrian overcasting
W2iPWujuGrI-02454-00545912-00546897 action
W2iPWujuGrI-02455-00546898-00547455 [Music]
W2iPWujuGrI-02456-00547456-00547695 excuse me just a second um you're
W2iPWujuGrI-02457-00547696-00547822 breaking up i don't know if
W2iPWujuGrI-02458-00547823-00547991 everybody being maybe they all are on
W2iPWujuGrI-02459-00547992-00548143 mute um
W2iPWujuGrI-02460-00548144-00548255 maybe we should go off the screen
W2iPWujuGrI-02461-00548256-00548479 because it wasn't coming away across
W2iPWujuGrI-02462-00548480-00548718 clearly it was for me was anybody else
W2iPWujuGrI-02463-00548719-00548951 having a problem with that
W2iPWujuGrI-02464-00548952-00549103 yeah sarah you should turn off your
W2iPWujuGrI-02465-00549104-00549695 video maybe
W2iPWujuGrI-02466-00549696-00550022 okay okay hopefully this works
W2iPWujuGrI-02467-00550023-00550343 better can you guys hear me we can hear
W2iPWujuGrI-02468-00550344-00550439 you but we can see
W2iPWujuGrI-02469-00550440-00550703 yeah there you go maybe this will help
W2iPWujuGrI-02470-00550704-00550903 okay
W2iPWujuGrI-02471-00550904-00551062 so you could get to just look at me and
W2iPWujuGrI-02472-00551063-00551279 my construction where there you go
W2iPWujuGrI-02473-00551280-00551607 yeah right yeah
W2iPWujuGrI-02474-00551608-00551935 back to uh back to the item uh
W2iPWujuGrI-02475-00551936-00552279 so we are uh working towards achieving
W2iPWujuGrI-02476-00552280-00552470 the ready to list milestone
W2iPWujuGrI-02477-00552471-00552855 um which is the rtl milestone which is
W2iPWujuGrI-02478-00552856-00553039 um basically to get the project
W2iPWujuGrI-02479-00553040-00553199 construction ready and
W2iPWujuGrI-02480-00553200-00553431 ready to list or advertise for
W2iPWujuGrI-02481-00553432-00553566 construction bids
W2iPWujuGrI-02482-00553567-00553839 and so there's two i um that are kind of
W2iPWujuGrI-02483-00553840-00554055 combined into one
W2iPWujuGrI-02484-00554056-00554359 uh for this item and that is
W2iPWujuGrI-02485-00554360-00554655 uh the first two amend an agreement that
W2iPWujuGrI-02486-00554656-00554735 we
W2iPWujuGrI-02487-00554736-00555007 have um with the county of santa cruz
W2iPWujuGrI-02488-00555008-00555143 public works
W2iPWujuGrI-02489-00555144-00555551 for the right-of-way support services
W2iPWujuGrI-02490-00555552-00555631 and the second
W2iPWujuGrI-02491-00555632-00555966 is for to get authorization
W2iPWujuGrI-02492-00555967-00556295 for a new agreement uh with also with
W2iPWujuGrI-02493-00556296-00556366 the county
W2iPWujuGrI-02494-00556367-00556670 of santa cruz parks division uh
W2iPWujuGrI-02495-00556671-00556943 to meet the mitigation needs for the
W2iPWujuGrI-02496-00556944-00557095 project
W2iPWujuGrI-02497-00557096-00557343 so the status of this project right now
W2iPWujuGrI-02498-00557344-00557614 we're um we're very close to
W2iPWujuGrI-02499-00557615-00557935 hitting the rtl milestone we anticipate
W2iPWujuGrI-02500-00557936-00558070 we'll be
W2iPWujuGrI-02501-00558071-00558399 um we'll be there within the next month
W2iPWujuGrI-02502-00558400-00558455 or two
W2iPWujuGrI-02503-00558456-00558759 so um as you recall
W2iPWujuGrI-02504-00558760-00559055 in 2018 we began the final design phase
W2iPWujuGrI-02505-00559056-00559166 with the rtc
W2iPWujuGrI-02506-00559167-00559383 as the implementing agency for the final
W2iPWujuGrI-02507-00559384-00559575 design and right-of-way components of
W2iPWujuGrI-02508-00559576-00559695 the project
W2iPWujuGrI-02509-00559696-00559895 uh and caltrans responsible for
W2iPWujuGrI-02510-00559896-00560007 oversight
W2iPWujuGrI-02511-00560008-00560327 and the rtc had previously entered into
W2iPWujuGrI-02512-00560328-00560518 an agreement with the county of santa
W2iPWujuGrI-02513-00560519-00560614 cruz
W2iPWujuGrI-02514-00560615-00560927 um for right-of-way support services so
W2iPWujuGrI-02515-00560928-00561055 that's all the
W2iPWujuGrI-02516-00561056-00561375 uh work that's related to acquiring um
W2iPWujuGrI-02517-00561376-00561511 the right of what he needs for the
W2iPWujuGrI-02518-00561512-00561695 project all of the right-of-way needs
W2iPWujuGrI-02519-00561696-00561887 for this project
W2iPWujuGrI-02520-00561888-00562214 were as a result of the construction of
W2iPWujuGrI-02521-00562215-00562262 the
W2iPWujuGrI-02522-00562263-00562551 bicycle and pedestrian over crossing and
W2iPWujuGrI-02523-00562552-00562647 that bicycle
W2iPWujuGrI-02524-00562648-00562862 pedestrian overcrossing will be owned by
W2iPWujuGrI-02525-00562863-00562966 the county
W2iPWujuGrI-02526-00562967-00563351 and therefore the underlying property
W2iPWujuGrI-02527-00563352-00563487 will be
W2iPWujuGrI-02528-00563488-00563783 owned by the county and so we made that
W2iPWujuGrI-02529-00563784-00563966 decision to partner with the county to
W2iPWujuGrI-02530-00563967-00564031 do the
W2iPWujuGrI-02531-00564032-00564287 right-of-way acquisitions because uh for
W2iPWujuGrI-02532-00564288-00564399 that reason
W2iPWujuGrI-02533-00564400-00564559 because they're gonna ultimately own the
W2iPWujuGrI-02534-00564560-00564711 right-of-way so
W2iPWujuGrI-02535-00564712-00565070 uh today i am requesting authorization
W2iPWujuGrI-02536-00565071-00565166 to amend this
W2iPWujuGrI-02537-00565167-00565495 agreement that we have um and that this
W2iPWujuGrI-02538-00565496-00565735 amendment will allow the exchange of
W2iPWujuGrI-02539-00565736-00565799 funds
W2iPWujuGrI-02540-00565800-00566047 for the right-of-way capital for the
W2iPWujuGrI-02541-00566048-00566262 project so to actually purchase the
W2iPWujuGrI-02542-00566263-00566383 easements
W2iPWujuGrI-02543-00566384-00566743 that are required for construction
W2iPWujuGrI-02544-00566744-00567103 and the uh the amendment value is 596
W2iPWujuGrI-02545-00567104-00567422 310 and that includes um
W2iPWujuGrI-02546-00567423-00567687 the capital for a right-of-way uh so
W2iPWujuGrI-02547-00567688-00567903 that not to exceed
W2iPWujuGrI-02548-00567904-00568351 uh amount for this contract will be 646
W2iPWujuGrI-02549-00568352-00568718 310 dollars
W2iPWujuGrI-02550-00568719-00569062 and um
W2iPWujuGrI-02551-00569063-00569431 there's a resolution for this item
W2iPWujuGrI-02552-00569432-00569655 [Music]
W2iPWujuGrI-02553-00569656-00569951 i'm going to move on to the next one so
W2iPWujuGrI-02554-00569952-00570039 the
W2iPWujuGrI-02555-00570040-00570351 the second box that i'd like to check
W2iPWujuGrI-02556-00570352-00570439 off for
W2iPWujuGrI-02557-00570440-00570766 um rtl is
W2iPWujuGrI-02558-00570767-00571007 uh to enter into a new agreement with
W2iPWujuGrI-02559-00571008-00571095 the county
W2iPWujuGrI-02560-00571096-00571431 um and this time it's with county parks
W2iPWujuGrI-02561-00571432-00571783 and the
W2iPWujuGrI-02562-00571784-00571991 reason is because the widening of the
W2iPWujuGrI-02563-00571992-00572175 project is going to result in
W2iPWujuGrI-02564-00572176-00572431 the removal of 71 trees of various
W2iPWujuGrI-02565-00572432-00572566 species
W2iPWujuGrI-02566-00572567-00572935 and so the mitigation requirements for
W2iPWujuGrI-02567-00572936-00573062 the project are
W2iPWujuGrI-02568-00573063-00573279 to replant those trees and there's
W2iPWujuGrI-02569-00573280-00573447 different
W2iPWujuGrI-02570-00573448-00573647 ratios of replanting required for
W2iPWujuGrI-02571-00573648-00573847 different species and different sizes of
W2iPWujuGrI-02572-00573848-00573943 trees
W2iPWujuGrI-02573-00573944-00574310 but in summary we have to replant 255
W2iPWujuGrI-02574-00574311-00574470 trees and 75
W2iPWujuGrI-02575-00574471-00574639 percent of those must be coastal live
W2iPWujuGrI-02576-00574640-00574807 oaks we
W2iPWujuGrI-02577-00574808-00575103 um we've been reaching far and wide
W2iPWujuGrI-02578-00575104-00575199 throughout the county
W2iPWujuGrI-02579-00575200-00575566 to try to find the best opportunity to
W2iPWujuGrI-02580-00575567-00575743 replant 255
W2iPWujuGrI-02581-00575744-00576087 trees uh that's not any easy um
W2iPWujuGrI-02582-00576088-00576399 thing to do if you can imagine so
W2iPWujuGrI-02583-00576400-00576687 um we looked for the most cost-effective
W2iPWujuGrI-02584-00576688-00576735 and
W2iPWujuGrI-02585-00576736-00577143 um ecologically uh effective
W2iPWujuGrI-02586-00577144-00577455 opportunity for the replantings and it
W2iPWujuGrI-02587-00577456-00577518 came
W2iPWujuGrI-02588-00577519-00577862 uh came down to being at the anna gene
W2iPWujuGrI-02589-00577863-00578079 cummings county park and that park is
W2iPWujuGrI-02590-00578080-00578183 located
W2iPWujuGrI-02591-00578184-00578487 up in socal kind of by a high school and
W2iPWujuGrI-02592-00578488-00578543 so
W2iPWujuGrI-02593-00578544-00578783 uh the contract which will be a new
W2iPWujuGrI-02594-00578784-00578870 contract
W2iPWujuGrI-02595-00578871-00579391 uh the value is 529 083 dollars
W2iPWujuGrI-02596-00579392-00579735 and that um covers the
W2iPWujuGrI-02597-00579736-00579991 play the actual trees to purchase the
W2iPWujuGrI-02598-00579992-00580070 trees
W2iPWujuGrI-02599-00580071-00580375 um for the county park staff to do the
W2iPWujuGrI-02600-00580376-00580479 replanting
W2iPWujuGrI-02601-00580480-00580766 and then also because it's required by
W2iPWujuGrI-02602-00580767-00580839 the
W2iPWujuGrI-02603-00580840-00581087 for the project there's some mitigation
W2iPWujuGrI-02604-00581088-00581239 monitoring that's going to happen
W2iPWujuGrI-02605-00581240-00581655 over five years after the
W2iPWujuGrI-02606-00581656-00582183 trees are planted and so this contract
W2iPWujuGrI-02607-00582184-00582366 talking about fiscal impacts of this
W2iPWujuGrI-02608-00582367-00582535 item
W2iPWujuGrI-02609-00582536-00582766 uh the right-of-way component of the
W2iPWujuGrI-02610-00582767-00582847 project
W2iPWujuGrI-02611-00582848-00583191 is funded by the state transportation
W2iPWujuGrI-02612-00583192-00583407 improvement program where the stip
W2iPWujuGrI-02613-00583408-00583879 you have 750 000
W2iPWujuGrI-02614-00583880-00584222 a portion of that is going to be um
W2iPWujuGrI-02615-00584223-00584414 covering the right-of-way support and
W2iPWujuGrI-02616-00584415-00584535 right-of-way capital
W2iPWujuGrI-02617-00584536-00584775 and then the remaining bit is going
W2iPWujuGrI-02618-00584776-00584862 toward
W2iPWujuGrI-02619-00584863-00585070 the off-site mitigation which is also
W2iPWujuGrI-02620-00585071-00585231 considered part of the right-of-way
W2iPWujuGrI-02621-00585232-00585455 component of the project
W2iPWujuGrI-02622-00585456-00585718 and so um obviously there's not enough
W2iPWujuGrI-02623-00585719-00585895 left over to fund both of these so
W2iPWujuGrI-02624-00585896-00586303 um my request is also to
W2iPWujuGrI-02625-00586304-00586631 amend the five-year program of projects
W2iPWujuGrI-02626-00586632-00586870 for the highway corridors
W2iPWujuGrI-02627-00586871-00587262 program to add funds over
W2iPWujuGrI-02628-00587263-00587495 the very fiscal years through fiscal
W2iPWujuGrI-02629-00587496-00587727 year 2425
W2iPWujuGrI-02630-00587728-00587983 and so um with that i will take any
W2iPWujuGrI-02631-00587984-00588503 questions from commissioners
W2iPWujuGrI-02632-00588504-00588775 okay all right thank you very much i
W2iPWujuGrI-02633-00588776-00588927 appreciate it we did get to hear you
W2iPWujuGrI-02634-00588928-00589031 loud and clear
W2iPWujuGrI-02635-00589032-00589199 are there any uh questions from
W2iPWujuGrI-02636-00589200-00589535 commissioners on this project
W2iPWujuGrI-02637-00589536-00589662 to amend the agreement for the
W2iPWujuGrI-02638-00589663-00589918 right-of-way the the project that was
W2iPWujuGrI-02639-00589919-00589975 mentioned
W2iPWujuGrI-02640-00589976-00590279 is there any comments from commissioners
W2iPWujuGrI-02641-00590280-00590679 um chair i have a question yes mr
W2iPWujuGrI-02642-00590680-00590991 gomez um you know as all projects we
W2iPWujuGrI-02643-00590992-00591135 look to leverage what we can
W2iPWujuGrI-02644-00591136-00591359 um and since you have this this
W2iPWujuGrI-02645-00591360-00591583 environmental piece of it
W2iPWujuGrI-02646-00591584-00591718 in watsonville we have watsonville
W2iPWujuGrI-02647-00591719-00591943 wetlands watch and so they always
W2iPWujuGrI-02648-00591944-00592022 contribute
W2iPWujuGrI-02649-00592023-00592239 to you know what leverage we have on
W2iPWujuGrI-02650-00592240-00592383 money we have to put together and their
W2iPWujuGrI-02651-00592384-00592527 resources and whatnot
W2iPWujuGrI-02652-00592528-00592743 do we have any opportunity for some of
W2iPWujuGrI-02653-00592744-00592847 the leverage um
W2iPWujuGrI-02654-00592848-00593031 to come in with money and the project
W2iPWujuGrI-02655-00593032-00593207 the time and effort
W2iPWujuGrI-02656-00593208-00593503 um donations of some sort to help with
W2iPWujuGrI-02657-00593504-00593535 um
W2iPWujuGrI-02658-00593536-00593710 to facilitate what we've got going with
W2iPWujuGrI-02659-00593711-00593975 the um the trees and the replanting
W2iPWujuGrI-02660-00593976-00594022 because
W2iPWujuGrI-02661-00594023-00594175 i know we're taking out was about 70
W2iPWujuGrI-02662-00594176-00594351 we're looking about 200 over 200 trees
W2iPWujuGrI-02663-00594352-00594439 to go in
W2iPWujuGrI-02664-00594440-00594647 so are we working with other local
W2iPWujuGrI-02665-00594648-00594751 agencies that
W2iPWujuGrI-02666-00594752-00594991 um really want to grab a shovel and help
W2iPWujuGrI-02667-00594992-00595127 out and perhaps
W2iPWujuGrI-02668-00595128-00595335 help with the funding in any sort any
W2iPWujuGrI-02669-00595336-00595975 possible means
W2iPWujuGrI-02670-00595976-00596287 so thank you for your question um we
W2iPWujuGrI-02671-00596288-00596622 are so it would really be up to county
W2iPWujuGrI-02672-00596623-00596687 parks
W2iPWujuGrI-02673-00596688-00596966 um but they typically use volunteers
W2iPWujuGrI-02674-00596967-00597118 regularly
W2iPWujuGrI-02675-00597119-00597462 and so the um the contract value
W2iPWujuGrI-02676-00597463-00597679 is a not to exceed amount and so if
W2iPWujuGrI-02677-00597680-00597903 there's any savings
W2iPWujuGrI-02678-00597904-00598231 uh due to volunteers participating in
W2iPWujuGrI-02679-00598232-00598566 these replantings and the monitoring
W2iPWujuGrI-02680-00598567-00599283 then that would be realized by the
W2iPWujuGrI-02681-00599284-00599662 project
W2iPWujuGrI-02682-00599663-00599927 okay so answer a question is there any
W2iPWujuGrI-02683-00599928-00599991 are there any
W2iPWujuGrI-02684-00599992-00600391 questions
W2iPWujuGrI-02685-00600392-00600759 okay this is an action item uh that we
W2iPWujuGrI-02686-00600760-00600831 need to
W2iPWujuGrI-02687-00600832-00601039 act on um you have questions from the
W2iPWujuGrI-02688-00601040-00601183 public commissioner mcpherson
W2iPWujuGrI-02689-00601184-00601510 excuse me i'm sorry yeah any questions
W2iPWujuGrI-02690-00601511-00601718 or info from the public thank you
W2iPWujuGrI-02691-00601719-00602310 uh mr ben vernassa
W2iPWujuGrI-02692-00602311-00602575 oh yes i i'm back on this issue of uh
W2iPWujuGrI-02693-00602576-00602735 we're talking about the highway
W2iPWujuGrI-02694-00602736-00602855 corridors
W2iPWujuGrI-02695-00602856-00603255 and that includes your sec segment 12
W2iPWujuGrI-02696-00603256-00603503 that costs 40 to 50 million dollars a
W2iPWujuGrI-02697-00603504-00603775 mile and it's mainly there
W2iPWujuGrI-02698-00603776-00604070 for the train there's no train you don't
W2iPWujuGrI-02699-00604071-00604143 need it
W2iPWujuGrI-02700-00604144-00604455 and it may not be necessary to widen at
W2iPWujuGrI-02701-00604456-00604639 that point it's the end of the commute
W2iPWujuGrI-02702-00604640-00604935 and my suggestion is that you put put
W2iPWujuGrI-02703-00604936-00605039 that off
W2iPWujuGrI-02704-00605040-00605262 and in the next four years you have 14
W2iPWujuGrI-02705-00605263-00605431 million dollars budgeted for that
W2iPWujuGrI-02706-00605432-00605527 project
W2iPWujuGrI-02707-00605528-00605839 move it over to this project and get it
W2iPWujuGrI-02708-00605840-00606070 finished earlier that's my suggestion
W2iPWujuGrI-02709-00606071-00606279 thank you
W2iPWujuGrI-02710-00606280-00606807 thank you mr peoples
W2iPWujuGrI-02711-00606808-00607079 yes hi brian from trail now two things
W2iPWujuGrI-02712-00607080-00607135 um
W2iPWujuGrI-02713-00607136-00607455 we want to continue to ask that
W2iPWujuGrI-02714-00607456-00607879 you look for mitigation measures
W2iPWujuGrI-02715-00607880-00608110 for when the highway 1 construction is
W2iPWujuGrI-02716-00608111-00608279 occurring
W2iPWujuGrI-02717-00608280-00608551 get the coastal corridor opened up as an
W2iPWujuGrI-02718-00608552-00608703 active
W2iPWujuGrI-02719-00608704-00609031 simple gravel trail at the minimum
W2iPWujuGrI-02720-00609032-00609318 from watsonville to santa cruz boardwalk
W2iPWujuGrI-02721-00609319-00609422 um
W2iPWujuGrI-02722-00609423-00609735 it's a solution for our community giving
W2iPWujuGrI-02723-00609736-00609822 the locals
W2iPWujuGrI-02724-00609823-00610151 a alternative during this
W2iPWujuGrI-02725-00610152-00610383 highway one construction period which is
W2iPWujuGrI-02726-00610384-00610631 going to be overwhelmingly
W2iPWujuGrI-02727-00610632-00610991 painful to our community secondly
W2iPWujuGrI-02728-00610992-00611183 the other thing we are strongly
W2iPWujuGrI-02729-00611184-00611295 advocating is
W2iPWujuGrI-02730-00611296-00611614 um for the highway widening
W2iPWujuGrI-02731-00611615-00611870 near aptos village rather than having
W2iPWujuGrI-02732-00611871-00611999 the rail corridor
W2iPWujuGrI-02733-00612000-00612310 could go into the village
W2iPWujuGrI-02734-00612311-00612647 we're asking that rail corridor
W2iPWujuGrI-02735-00612648-00612983 remain on the ocean side of the highway
W2iPWujuGrI-02736-00612984-00613239 which would reduce the congestion within
W2iPWujuGrI-02737-00613240-00613327 the village
W2iPWujuGrI-02738-00613328-00613687 thank you for your time
W2iPWujuGrI-02739-00613688-00613879 that was the last of our comments um
W2iPWujuGrI-02740-00613880-00614014 commissioner mcpherson
W2iPWujuGrI-02741-00614015-00614359 thank you thank you any other comments
W2iPWujuGrI-02742-00614360-00614495 from the
W2iPWujuGrI-02743-00614496-00614799 commission itself
W2iPWujuGrI-02744-00614800-00615079 saying none uh entertainment move
W2iPWujuGrI-02745-00615080-00615303 approval the recommended actions
W2iPWujuGrI-02746-00615304-00615622 oh second we have a question from mr
W2iPWujuGrI-02747-00615623-00616031 butterfly
W2iPWujuGrI-02748-00616032-00616262 mr blackburn yeah thank you chair i have
W2iPWujuGrI-02749-00616263-00616366 a comment uh
W2iPWujuGrI-02750-00616367-00616551 since this will be my last bite of the
W2iPWujuGrI-02751-00616552-00616695 apple on any uh
W2iPWujuGrI-02752-00616696-00616966 vote here uh as a metro representative i
W2iPWujuGrI-02753-00616967-00617103 just want to say that that
W2iPWujuGrI-02754-00617104-00617447 this concept of bus on shoulder is where
W2iPWujuGrI-02755-00617448-00617518 metro
W2iPWujuGrI-02756-00617519-00617743 needs to be you know there's a lot of
W2iPWujuGrI-02757-00617744-00617959 places where people want to put metro
W2iPWujuGrI-02758-00617960-00618262 this is the most preferred use for metro
W2iPWujuGrI-02759-00618263-00618447 and this is a great project and i want
W2iPWujuGrI-02760-00618448-00618695 to commend both guy and sarah
W2iPWujuGrI-02761-00618696-00618943 for pushing this forward making this a
W2iPWujuGrI-02762-00618944-00619103 project that's going to happen
W2iPWujuGrI-02763-00619104-00619399 but bus on shoulder is absolutely uh the
W2iPWujuGrI-02764-00619400-00619455 place
W2iPWujuGrI-02765-00619456-00619751 that that metro belongs on this and uh
W2iPWujuGrI-02766-00619752-00619887 i'm not sure if i'm cutting anybody off
W2iPWujuGrI-02767-00619888-00620055 but i would sure like to make the motion
W2iPWujuGrI-02768-00620056-00620247 to adopt that recommendation on that
W2iPWujuGrI-02769-00620248-00620407 you're going to have the second i think
W2iPWujuGrI-02770-00620408-00620559 miss kaufman gomez made the motion
W2iPWujuGrI-02771-00620560-00620679 you'll have the second
W2iPWujuGrI-02772-00620680-00620847 you know i would like to just make a
W2iPWujuGrI-02773-00620848-00621070 comment too about the cooperative
W2iPWujuGrI-02774-00621071-00621310 efforts uh that have been very
W2iPWujuGrI-02775-00621311-00621462 noticeable between
W2iPWujuGrI-02776-00621463-00621766 the rtc and metro very much appreciated
W2iPWujuGrI-02777-00621767-00621910 and i think it's going to
W2iPWujuGrI-02778-00621911-00622143 result in better service transportation
W2iPWujuGrI-02779-00622144-00622310 public transportation services for
W2iPWujuGrI-02780-00622311-00622414 everyone
W2iPWujuGrI-02781-00622415-00622735 uh okay i had a question yes
W2iPWujuGrI-02782-00622736-00623087 um we got replacement pages i think for
W2iPWujuGrI-02783-00623088-00623127 this
W2iPWujuGrI-02784-00623128-00623295 item and i'm not sure those are
W2iPWujuGrI-02785-00623296-00623543 reflected in uh were reflected in the
W2iPWujuGrI-02786-00623544-00623679 staff report
W2iPWujuGrI-02787-00623680-00624055 i just like a clarification on
W2iPWujuGrI-02788-00624056-00624383 whether the motion includes those if i
W2iPWujuGrI-02789-00624384-00624431 have
W2iPWujuGrI-02790-00624432-00624631 if i'm understanding what happened
W2iPWujuGrI-02791-00624632-00625070 correctly
W2iPWujuGrI-02792-00625071-00625279 you're right there was a replacement
W2iPWujuGrI-02793-00625280-00625407 page um
W2iPWujuGrI-02794-00625408-00625599 the staff report was created and the
W2iPWujuGrI-02795-00625600-00625831 resolution was corrected and the reason
W2iPWujuGrI-02796-00625832-00626047 for that was the
W2iPWujuGrI-02797-00626048-00626303 work plan from the county was updated
W2iPWujuGrI-02798-00626304-00626503 for the replanting so
W2iPWujuGrI-02799-00626504-00626855 the term uh we were originally expecting
W2iPWujuGrI-02800-00626856-00627087 it to be through 2025
W2iPWujuGrI-02801-00627088-00627407 but we went ahead and up to 2027 they're
W2iPWujuGrI-02802-00627408-00627518 actually going to be
W2iPWujuGrI-02803-00627519-00627855 most likely finished in early 2027
W2iPWujuGrI-02804-00627856-00628103 but we um we typically like to end our
W2iPWujuGrI-02805-00628104-00628287 agreements at the end of the year so
W2iPWujuGrI-02806-00628288-00628751 we changed it to december 31st 2027
W2iPWujuGrI-02807-00628752-00629095 and the reason for that is the five-year
W2iPWujuGrI-02808-00629096-00629407 requirement is from the point that
W2iPWujuGrI-02809-00629408-00629687 the plantings are complete and the
W2iPWujuGrI-02810-00629688-00629831 plantings are going to happen
W2iPWujuGrI-02811-00629832-00630127 over a period of time and so therefore
W2iPWujuGrI-02812-00630128-00630262 the term of the agreement needs to
W2iPWujuGrI-02813-00630263-00630518 extend through 2027.
W2iPWujuGrI-02814-00630519-00630679 so i didn't have a problem with that i
W2iPWujuGrI-02815-00630680-00630862 just wanted to clarify that that
W2iPWujuGrI-02816-00630863-00631183 was uh going that was incorporated in
W2iPWujuGrI-02817-00631184-00631239 the
W2iPWujuGrI-02818-00631240-00631703 motion yes i moved
W2iPWujuGrI-02819-00631704-00632095 and that's in my second okay
W2iPWujuGrI-02820-00632096-00632279 very well thank you for the explanation
W2iPWujuGrI-02821-00632280-00632470 uh for the question
W2iPWujuGrI-02822-00632471-00632743 any other comments from commissioners uh
W2iPWujuGrI-02823-00632744-00633047 we can call the rule please commissioner
W2iPWujuGrI-02824-00633048-00633479 brown
W2iPWujuGrI-02825-00633480-00633807 commission alternate tim aye
W2iPWujuGrI-02826-00633808-00634151 commissioner kaufman gomez yes
W2iPWujuGrI-02827-00634152-00634470 commissioner cappet i
W2iPWujuGrI-02828-00634471-00634766 commissioned alternate shifrin hi
W2iPWujuGrI-02829-00634767-00634983 commission alternate mulher
W2iPWujuGrI-02830-00634984-00635422 hi commissioner leopold
W2iPWujuGrI-02831-00635423-00635751 aye commissioner mcpherson aye
W2iPWujuGrI-02832-00635752-00636039 commissioner botorf aye commissioner
W2iPWujuGrI-02833-00636040-00636183 gonzalez
W2iPWujuGrI-02834-00636184-00636551 aye commissioner alternate lynn aye
W2iPWujuGrI-02835-00636552-00636879 unanimous okay thank you uh
W2iPWujuGrI-02836-00636880-00637159 we will go to item number 22 to review
W2iPWujuGrI-02837-00637160-00637327 the items to be discussed in closed
W2iPWujuGrI-02838-00637328-00637407 session uh
W2iPWujuGrI-02839-00637408-00637647 mr mattis uh will there be anything
W2iPWujuGrI-02840-00637648-00637910 reportable or do you
W2iPWujuGrI-02841-00637911-00638151 yes mr chair mr chairperson there may be
W2iPWujuGrI-02842-00638152-00638375 reportable action on two of the three
W2iPWujuGrI-02843-00638376-00638470 closed sessions
W2iPWujuGrI-02844-00638471-00638814 today okay very good well
W2iPWujuGrI-02845-00638815-00639007 we will move into closed session we'll
W2iPWujuGrI-02846-00639008-00639151 take a it's now
W2iPWujuGrI-02847-00639152-00639407 uh well let's say it's 10 minutes to 11.
W2iPWujuGrI-02848-00639408-00639495 we'll
W2iPWujuGrI-02849-00639496-00639751 reconvene at 11 o'clock if that's okay
W2iPWujuGrI-02850-00639752-00639879 and i think everybody should have the
W2iPWujuGrI-02851-00639880-00640047 link for the closed session
W2iPWujuGrI-02852-00640048-00640199 and i would like to announce that the
W2iPWujuGrI-02853-00640200-00640399 next rtc
W2iPWujuGrI-02854-00640400-00640703 meeting uh when we will have um
W2iPWujuGrI-02855-00640704-00641070 a new chair uh mr gonzalez uh will be on
W2iPWujuGrI-02856-00641071-00641203 january 14
W2iPWujuGrI-02857-00641204-00641575 2020 at 9am and i'm sure that is going
W2iPWujuGrI-02858-00641576-00641751 to be by teleconference as well
W2iPWujuGrI-02859-00641752-00642110 again so uh thank you for the public for
W2iPWujuGrI-02860-00642111-00642422 uh joining us and um we will now move
W2iPWujuGrI-02861-00642423-00642607 into closed session with the possibility
W2iPWujuGrI-02862-00642608-00642743 of having an announcement
W2iPWujuGrI-02863-00642744-00643014 at the completion of that so we will
W2iPWujuGrI-02864-00643015-00643207 move into closed session at this point
W2iPWujuGrI-02865-00643208-00644575 and be back at 11 o'clock in 10 minutes
W2iPWujuGrI-02866-00644576-00644791 all right we uh the commission met in
W2iPWujuGrI-02867-00644792-00644927 closed session and we
W2iPWujuGrI-02868-00644928-00645183 came out of our closed session with two
W2iPWujuGrI-02869-00645184-00645399 reportable items which our council mr
W2iPWujuGrI-02870-00645400-00645607 mattis will report on
W2iPWujuGrI-02871-00645608-00645814 thank you mr chair um we'll report on
W2iPWujuGrI-02872-00645815-00646022 two items from the closed session
W2iPWujuGrI-02873-00646023-00646262 um the two reportable items relate to
W2iPWujuGrI-02874-00646263-00646327 items
W2iPWujuGrI-02875-00646328-00646703 24 and 26 in the closed session
W2iPWujuGrI-02876-00646704-00646887 um the commission with regards to item
W2iPWujuGrI-02877-00646888-00647007 24 the executive
W2iPWujuGrI-02878-00647008-00647262 director's evaluation the executive
W2iPWujuGrI-02879-00647263-00647414 director's evaluation was
W2iPWujuGrI-02880-00647415-00647831 completed and the commission's
W2iPWujuGrI-02881-00647832-00648047 evaluation met the requirements under
W2iPWujuGrI-02882-00648048-00648239 section 3.3
W2iPWujuGrI-02883-00648240-00648551 of the executive director's contract
W2iPWujuGrI-02884-00648552-00648766 for the executive director to receive
W2iPWujuGrI-02885-00648767-00648927 the step c
W2iPWujuGrI-02886-00648928-00649303 increase that vote by the commission
W2iPWujuGrI-02887-00649304-00649622 was 11 to zero to
W2iPWujuGrI-02888-00649623-00649943 complete the evaluation and to recognize
W2iPWujuGrI-02889-00649944-00650110 the entitlement to the step c
W2iPWujuGrI-02890-00650111-00650327 increase that is provided for in his
W2iPWujuGrI-02891-00650328-00650439 contract
W2iPWujuGrI-02892-00650440-00650759 the second item is with regards to
W2iPWujuGrI-02893-00650760-00651070 item 26 the anticipated litigation
W2iPWujuGrI-02894-00651071-00651351 initiation of litigation in that
W2iPWujuGrI-02895-00651352-00651407 instance
W2iPWujuGrI-02896-00651408-00651766 the commission voted 10-0
W2iPWujuGrI-02897-00651767-00651975 commissioner leopold was did not vote in
W2iPWujuGrI-02898-00651976-00652159 that matter
W2iPWujuGrI-02899-00652160-00652470 and the commission authorized the
W2iPWujuGrI-02900-00652471-00652799 initiation of litigation uh related
W2iPWujuGrI-02901-00652800-00653127 to the um uh
W2iPWujuGrI-02902-00653128-00653522 drainage damage repair uh near mile post
W2iPWujuGrI-02903-00653523-00653839 4.87 on the santa cruz branch line
W2iPWujuGrI-02904-00653840-00654143 and authorized the commission council to
W2iPWujuGrI-02905-00654144-00654231 file
W2iPWujuGrI-02906-00654232-00654407 litigation in that matter again that
W2iPWujuGrI-02907-00654408-00654575 vote was 10-0
W2iPWujuGrI-02908-00654576-00654751 and with that mr chair that is all the
W2iPWujuGrI-02909-00654752-00655007 reportable actions from closed session
W2iPWujuGrI-02910-00655008-00655214 thank you very much okay that is all we
W2iPWujuGrI-02911-00655215-00655407 need to report um
W2iPWujuGrI-02912-00655408-00655639 this means uh well the meeting of uh
W2iPWujuGrI-02913-00655640-00655822 november 3rd is adjourned officially
W2iPWujuGrI-02914-00655823-00655870 then
W2iPWujuGrI-02915-00655871-00656191 and uh the next one will be in january
W2iPWujuGrI-02916-00656192-00656422 i don't have that date probably now 14
W2iPWujuGrI-02917-00656423-00656535 january 14th
W2iPWujuGrI-02918-00656536-00656814 january 14th uh at 9 00 a.m and it'll be
W2iPWujuGrI-02919-00656815-00656975 on teleconference
W2iPWujuGrI-02920-00656976-00657166 happy holidays everyone and see you
W2iPWujuGrI-02921-00657167-00659007 later thank you take care
W2iPWujuGrI-02922-00659008-00659215 you
W43G6qLh_J4-00000-00000003-00000641 hey it's me Oh Joe coca-cola chapstick
W43G6qLh_J4-00001-00000642-00000950 the only kind of you might take like
W43G6qLh_J4-00002-00000951-00001603 coke okay hey what's up its me kay leb
W43G6qLh_J4-00003-00001604-00001939 so as you can see my hair looks like
W43G6qLh_J4-00004-00001941-00002372 cheese nipples and you're probably
W43G6qLh_J4-00005-00002373-00002705 wondering why well here's the reason so
W43G6qLh_J4-00006-00002706-00003127 I'm going to be doing a tutorial on how
W43G6qLh_J4-00007-00003128-00003401 to do your hair so this is going to be a
W43G6qLh_J4-00008-00003402-00003838 real how-to why why is it gonna be real
W43G6qLh_J4-00009-00003839-00004124 why why don't you do something buddy you
W43G6qLh_J4-00010-00004125-00004406 mean real things aren't funny oh geez
W43G6qLh_J4-00011-00004407-00004604 I'm gonna have to replan my whole
W43G6qLh_J4-00012-00004605-00004885 schedule for the entire frickin year
W43G6qLh_J4-00013-00004886-00005188 because all my stuff is real it's real
W43G6qLh_J4-00014-00005189-00005600 as unicorns well some things you're
W43G6qLh_J4-00015-00005601-00005816 gonna need before you start is a
W43G6qLh_J4-00016-00005817-00006070 straightener I like to turn on my
W43G6qLh_J4-00017-00006071-00006304 straightener before I use it because you
W43G6qLh_J4-00018-00006305-00006520 know that's usually the best way to use
W43G6qLh_J4-00019-00006522-00006745 it and then I like to turn it up all the
W43G6qLh_J4-00020-00006747-00007388 way to 30 oh because that's the only way
W43G6qLh_J4-00021-00007389-00007556 that you can actually straighten your
W43G6qLh_J4-00022-00007556-00007844 hair well in my opinion I have to poop
W43G6qLh_J4-00023-00007845-00008084 another thing you're going to need is
W43G6qLh_J4-00024-00008084-00008519 some design like hairspray or any other
W43G6qLh_J4-00025-00008520-00008749 hairspray that cost more than $10 you
W43G6qLh_J4-00026-00008750-00009085 know because if it costs less than that
W43G6qLh_J4-00027-00009086-00009167 it's not gonna work
W43G6qLh_J4-00028-00009168-00009470 why am i insane another thing you're
W43G6qLh_J4-00029-00009471-00009905 gonna need is a coma because your hair
W43G6qLh_J4-00030-00009906-00010081 is gonna look like ball sack if you
W43G6qLh_J4-00031-00010082-00010346 don't have a comb why did I open the
W43G6qLh_J4-00032-00010347-00010613 door who cares
W43G6qLh_J4-00033-00010614-00010994 yeah I'm just wasting time while this
W43G6qLh_J4-00034-00010995-00011801 thing heats up it's ready yay
W43G6qLh_J4-00035-00011802-00012095 so well I'm sure anything my hair look
W43G6qLh_J4-00036-00012096-00012353 even let me inform you on some things so
W43G6qLh_J4-00037-00012354-00012719 I'm going to be making a studio why did
W43G6qLh_J4-00038-00012720-00012999 I stop talking I I don't know
W43G6qLh_J4-00039-00013000-00013252 in the middle of a sentence whatever
W43G6qLh_J4-00040-00013253-00013483 it's horrible my hair is gritty I
W43G6qLh_J4-00041-00013484-00013696 probably should watch it that's probably
W43G6qLh_J4-00042-00013697-00013938 what you should do before you start is
W43G6qLh_J4-00043-00013940-00014227 watch your hair because if you don't
W43G6qLh_J4-00044-00014228-00014650 then it will feel like just in your hand
W43G6qLh_J4-00045-00014651-00015007 I'm polish - we eat from my head to my
W43G6qLh_J4-00046-00015008-00015350 free year
W43G6qLh_J4-00047-00015351-00017619 suger on street end in my hair in the
W43G6qLh_J4-00048-00017620-00017847 bathroom on my fare that's what I'm
W43G6qLh_J4-00049-00017848-00018055 doing I'm straightening it it's gonna
W43G6qLh_J4-00050-00018056-00018547 look like piece of sh is knit I'm stop
W43G6qLh_J4-00051-00018548-00018868 cussing yeah come on don't be like us in
W43G6qLh_J4-00052-00018869-00019083 cus cousin makes you stupid
W43G6qLh_J4-00053-00019084-00019462 it runs brain forever even though I cuss
W43G6qLh_J4-00054-00019463-00019543 every day
W43G6qLh_J4-00055-00019544-00019897 I don't wanna cut today I rhymes day
W43G6qLh_J4-00056-00019898-00020200 with day oh yeah hurray
W43G6qLh_J4-00057-00020201-00020403 oh yeah I'm really good at this wrapping
W43G6qLh_J4-00058-00020404-00020644 stuff ah yeah
W43G6qLh_J4-00059-00020645-00020900 doesn't my heart just look so amazing I
W43G6qLh_J4-00060-00020901-00021231 thought so too yeah this is the one I
W43G6qLh_J4-00061-00021232-00021444 like to do I just like to go back and
W43G6qLh_J4-00062-00021445-00021691 forth my head I seriously do this every
W43G6qLh_J4-00063-00021692-00021922 single time I do my hair don't know why
W43G6qLh_J4-00064-00021923-00022164 it's just like an OCD thing or something
W43G6qLh_J4-00065-00022165-00022411 anyways oh you can do this if you want
W43G6qLh_J4-00066-00022412-00022675 to and it's up to you I just like to do
W43G6qLh_J4-00067-00022676-00022789 this because it makes my hair a little
W43G6qLh_J4-00068-00022790-00023074 bit deeper it's time to stop but I can't
W43G6qLh_J4-00069-00023075-00023458 I seem to be in a state of inertia where
W43G6qLh_J4-00070-00023459-00023680 I can't stop as you can see my hair
W43G6qLh_J4-00071-00023681-00023977 straight now and it's fluffy like a
W43G6qLh_J4-00072-00023978-00024589 panda pandas are fluffy I love if I had
W43G6qLh_J4-00073-00024590-00024793 the chance to hug a panda I think I
W43G6qLh_J4-00074-00024794-00025000 would I think I would take that chance
W43G6qLh_J4-00075-00025001-00025525 and just like draw hold you it did I'd
W43G6qLh_J4-00076-00025526-00025708 probably kill it cuz I hugged it so
W43G6qLh_J4-00077-00025708-00025887 Denmark and
W43G6qLh_J4-00078-00025888-00026354 that would not be good my hair still
W43G6qLh_J4-00079-00026355-00026636 looks oh dude look how shiny my hair is
W43G6qLh_J4-00080-00026637-00026777 that's because it's greasy
W43G6qLh_J4-00081-00026777-00027052 ain't gonna miss a spot hold on guys I
W43G6qLh_J4-00082-00027054-00027133 missed a spot
W43G6qLh_J4-00083-00027133-00027415 dang it I miss another spot hold on oh
W43G6qLh_J4-00084-00027416-00027739 no I miss you never stop all right now
W43G6qLh_J4-00085-00027741-00027952 let me waste in seven minutes doing that
W43G6qLh_J4-00086-00027954-00028286 I like to take my hair and just go
W43G6qLh_J4-00087-00028287-00029393 upside down with it oh Jesus Christ my
W43G6qLh_J4-00088-00029394-00029987 bones I would like to warn you that if
W43G6qLh_J4-00089-00029988-00030171 you spray it in your eyes it will hurt a
W43G6qLh_J4-00090-00030172-00030331 lot
W43G6qLh_J4-00091-00030332-00030623 all right take a comb and like move it
W43G6qLh_J4-00092-00030624-00030944 backwards and spread move it backwards
W43G6qLh_J4-00093-00030945-00031237 Wow move it backwards and spread and
W43G6qLh_J4-00094-00031238-00031537 then move it sideways down the sides
W43G6qLh_J4-00095-00031538-00031937 like this and then spread and then spray
W43G6qLh_J4-00096-00031938-00032264 again then move the other side down
W43G6qLh_J4-00097-00032264-00032543 sideways and then spray and spray it
W43G6qLh_J4-00098-00032544-00032756 again if you don't get it then take the
W43G6qLh_J4-00099-00032757-00033131 back and then like just spray it and if
W43G6qLh_J4-00100-00033132-00033281 you didn't spray it enough to spread
W43G6qLh_J4-00101-00033282-00033496 some more and then did the same thing on
W43G6qLh_J4-00102-00033497-00033752 the other side just bread if you didn't
W43G6qLh_J4-00103-00033753-00033905 get enough just spray it again that's
W43G6qLh_J4-00104-00033906-00034181 press more and you'll get it all right
W43G6qLh_J4-00105-00034182-00034382 now it's time to hold your head sideways
W43G6qLh_J4-00106-00034383-00034765 and do this but all I see I do this
W43G6qLh_J4-00107-00034766-00034979 every single time I put stuff in my hair
W43G6qLh_J4-00108-00034980-00035144 and if you want to you can spray it
W43G6qLh_J4-00109-00035145-00035462 while you're doing it see that's this
W43G6qLh_J4-00110-00035463-00035665 bun all right you can get the back
W43G6qLh_J4-00111-00035666-00036059 overhead runs this ever just like I look
W43G6qLh_J4-00112-00036060-00036167 amazing
W43G6qLh_J4-00113-00036168-00036500 yes I do all right just flip your hair
W43G6qLh_J4-00114-00036501-00037039 sideways all right comb it a little bit
W43G6qLh_J4-00115-00037040-00037325 and if you want you can just hold some
W43G6qLh_J4-00116-00037326-00037601 up and spread a little more because he
W43G6qLh_J4-00117-00037602-00037787 didn't get it enough just keep doing
W43G6qLh_J4-00118-00037788-00038062 this for a while and you'll eventually
W43G6qLh_J4-00119-00038063-00038249 get some awesomeness hair
W43G6qLh_J4-00120-00038250-00038540 like mine I heard uglies fudge all right
W43G6qLh_J4-00121-00038541-00038762 you couldn't like massage your head too
W43G6qLh_J4-00122-00038763-00039164 because that always feels good you don't
W43G6qLh_J4-00123-00039165-00039359 do it right it's gonna come out wrong
W43G6qLh_J4-00124-00039360-00039656 that was my hair tutorial oh I don't
W43G6qLh_J4-00125-00039657-00039869 normally new hair tutorial put your
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W43G6qLh_J4-00127-00040053-00040268 how to next subscribe if you have not
W43G6qLh_J4-00128-00040269-00040529 because you know I'm a comedian and I'm
W43G6qLh_J4-00129-00040530-00040805 funny I mean not on this one I wasn't
W43G6qLh_J4-00130-00040806-00040976 very funny because I didn't prepare very
W43G6qLh_J4-00131-00040977-00041135 well so we should check out my other
W43G6qLh_J4-00132-00041136-00041306 videos on my channel because they're
W43G6qLh_J4-00133-00041307-00041561 actually funny yeah or something
W43G6qLh_J4-00134-00041562-00041861 oh my god why is my camera so
W43G6qLh_J4-00135-00041862-00042190 sideways hit this annotation right there
W43G6qLh_J4-00136-00042191-00042626 see right like this and you can see the
W43G6qLh_J4-00137-00042627-00042854 other houses that I've done and why is
W43G6qLh_J4-00138-00042855-00043487 my hair so freakin bad no roar huh what
W43G6qLh_J4-00139-00043488-00043622 whoa
W43G6qLh_J4-00140-00043623-00044254 out loud hello hello hello hello
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W6BqCla8ch8-00000-00000049-00000303 an autocracy as a system of government
W6BqCla8ch8-00001-00000304-00000530 in which supreme power is concentrated
W6BqCla8ch8-00002-00000531-00000692 in the hands of one person whose
W6BqCla8ch8-00003-00000693-00000846 decisions are subject to neither
W6BqCla8ch8-00004-00000847-00001028 external legal restraints nor
W6BqCla8ch8-00005-00001029-00001220 regularized mechanisms of popular
W6BqCla8ch8-00006-00001221-00001424 control except perhaps for the implicit
W6BqCla8ch8-00007-00001425-00001602 threat of a coup d'etat or mass
W6BqCla8ch8-00008-00001603-00001923 insurrection absolute monarchies such as
W6BqCla8ch8-00009-00001923-00002130 Saudi Arabia the United Arab Emirates
W6BqCla8ch8-00010-00002131-00002382 Oman Brunei and Swaziland and
W6BqCla8ch8-00011-00002383-00002600 dictatorship such as Turkmenistan and
W6BqCla8ch8-00012-00002601-00002781 North Korea are the main modern-day
W6BqCla8ch8-00013-00002782-00003132 forms of autocracy in earlier times the
W6BqCla8ch8-00014-00003133-00003444 term autocrat was coined as a favourable
W6BqCla8ch8-00015-00003445-00003606 feature of the ruler having some
W6BqCla8ch8-00016-00003607-00003789 connection to the concept of lack of
W6BqCla8ch8-00017-00003790-00004092 conflicts of interests as well as an
W6BqCla8ch8-00018-00004093-00004323 indication of grandeur and power the
W6BqCla8ch8-00019-00004324-00004530 Russians are for example was styled
W6BqCla8ch8-00020-00004531-00004836 autocrat of all the Russians as late as
W6BqCla8ch8-00021-00004837-00005466 the early 20th century
W6BqCla8ch8-00022-00005467-00006091 topic history and etymology
W6BqCla8ch8-00023-00006092-00006299 autocracy comes from the ancient Greek
W6BqCla8ch8-00024-00006300-00006578 Otto's self and Kratos power strength
W6BqCla8ch8-00025-00006579-00006818 from Kratos the Greek personification of
W6BqCla8ch8-00026-00006819-00007091 authority in the medieval Greek language
W6BqCla8ch8-00027-00007092-00007316 the term autocracies was used for anyone
W6BqCla8ch8-00028-00007317-00007526 holding the title Emperor regardless of
W6BqCla8ch8-00029-00007527-00007778 the actual power of the monarch some
W6BqCla8ch8-00030-00007779-00007996 historical Slavic monarchs such as
W6BqCla8ch8-00031-00007997-00008203 Russian Czars and emperors included the
W6BqCla8ch8-00032-00008204-00008374 title autocrat as part of their official
W6BqCla8ch8-00033-00008375-00008573 styles distinguishing them from the
W6BqCla8ch8-00034-00008574-00008768 constitutional monarchs elsewhere in
W6BqCla8ch8-00035-00008769-00009303 Europe
W6BqCla8ch8-00036-00009304-00009603 topic comparison with other forms of
W6BqCla8ch8-00037-00009604-00009999 government
W6BqCla8ch8-00038-00010000-00010263 both totalitarianism and military
W6BqCla8ch8-00039-00010264-00010455 dictatorship are often identified with
W6BqCla8ch8-00040-00010456-00010730 but need not be an autocracy
W6BqCla8ch8-00041-00010731-00010947 totalitarianism as a system where the
W6BqCla8ch8-00042-00010948-00011157 state strives to control every aspect of
W6BqCla8ch8-00043-00011158-00011448 life in civil society it can be headed
W6BqCla8ch8-00044-00011449-00011685 by a supreme leader making it autocratic
W6BqCla8ch8-00045-00011686-00011838 but it can also have a collective
W6BqCla8ch8-00046-00011839-00012054 leadership such as a commune kunda or
W6BqCla8ch8-00047-00012055-00012402 single political party in an analysis of
W6BqCla8ch8-00048-00012403-00012615 militarized disputes between two states
W6BqCla8ch8-00049-00012616-00012804 if one of the states involved was an
W6BqCla8ch8-00050-00012805-00012974 autocracy the chance of violence
W6BqCla8ch8-00051-00012975-00013558 occurring doubled
W6BqCla8ch8-00052-00013559-00014165 topic origin and developments
W6BqCla8ch8-00053-00014166-00014394 examples from early modern Europe
W6BqCla8ch8-00054-00014394-00014601 suggests early statehood was favorable
W6BqCla8ch8-00055-00014602-00014868 for democracy but according to Jacob
W6BqCla8ch8-00056-00014869-00015102 Hariri outside Europe history shows that
W6BqCla8ch8-00057-00015103-00015413 early statehood has led to autocracy the
W6BqCla8ch8-00058-00015415-00015641 reasons he divs are continuation of the
W6BqCla8ch8-00059-00015643-00015893 original autocratic rule in absence of
W6BqCla8ch8-00060-00015894-00016136 institutional transplantation or
W6BqCla8ch8-00061-00016137-00016389 European settlement this may be because
W6BqCla8ch8-00062-00016390-00016572 of the country's capacity to fight
W6BqCla8ch8-00063-00016573-00016782 colonization or the presence of state
W6BqCla8ch8-00064-00016783-00016977 infrastructure that Europeans did not
W6BqCla8ch8-00065-00016978-00017169 need to build new institutions to rule
W6BqCla8ch8-00066-00017170-00017436 in all the cases representative
W6BqCla8ch8-00067-00017437-00017598 institutions were unable to get
W6BqCla8ch8-00068-00017599-00017760 introduced in these countries and they
W6BqCla8ch8-00069-00017761-00018054 sustained their autocratic rule European
W6BqCla8ch8-00070-00018055-00018279 colonization was varied and conditional
W6BqCla8ch8-00071-00018280-00018504 on many factors countries which were
W6BqCla8ch8-00072-00018505-00018693 rich in natural resources had an
W6BqCla8ch8-00073-00018694-00018900 extractive and indirect rule whereas
W6BqCla8ch8-00074-00018901-00019112 other colonies saw European settlement
W6BqCla8ch8-00075-00019113-00019319 because of this settlement these
W6BqCla8ch8-00076-00019320-00019533 countries possibly experienced setting
W6BqCla8ch8-00077-00019534-00019866 up of new institutions colonization also
W6BqCla8ch8-00078-00019867-00020040 depended on factor endowments and
W6BqCla8ch8-00079-00020041-00020301 settler mortality banker Olson theorizes
W6BqCla8ch8-00080-00020302-00020496 the development of autocracies as the
W6BqCla8ch8-00081-00020497-00020729 first transition from Anarchy to state
W6BqCla8ch8-00082-00020730-00020997 anarchy for Olson is characterized by a
W6BqCla8ch8-00083-00020998-00021291 number of roving bandits who travel
W6BqCla8ch8-00084-00021292-00021507 around many different geographic areas
W6BqCla8ch8-00085-00021508-00021735 extorting wealth from local populations
W6BqCla8ch8-00086-00021736-00021950 leaving little incentive for populations
W6BqCla8ch8-00087-00021951-00022227 to invest and produce as local
W6BqCla8ch8-00088-00022228-00022407 populations lose the incentive to
W6BqCla8ch8-00089-00022408-00022575 produce there is little wealth for
W6BqCla8ch8-00090-00022576-00022728 either the bandits to steal or the
W6BqCla8ch8-00091-00022729-00023046 people to use Olson theorizes autocrat
W6BqCla8ch8-00092-00023047-00023369 says stationary bandits who solved this
W6BqCla8ch8-00093-00023370-00023583 dilemma by establishing control over a
W6BqCla8ch8-00094-00023584-00023760 small fiefdom and monopolized the
W6BqCla8ch8-00095-00023761-00023940 extortion of wealth in the fiefdom in
W6BqCla8ch8-00096-00023941-00024234 the form of taxes once an autocracy is
W6BqCla8ch8-00097-00024235-00024456 developed Olson theorizes that both the
W6BqCla8ch8-00098-00024457-00024654 autocrat and the local population will
W6BqCla8ch8-00099-00024655-00024831 be better off as the autocrat will have
W6BqCla8ch8-00100-00024832-00025086 an encompassing interest in the
W6BqCla8ch8-00101-00025087-00025242 maintenance and growth of wealth in the
W6BqCla8ch8-00102-00025243-00025472 fiefdom because violence threatens the
W6BqCla8ch8-00103-00025473-00025758 creation of rents the stationary bandit
W6BqCla8ch8-00104-00025758-00026019 has incentives to monopolize violence
W6BqCla8ch8-00105-00026020-00026219 and to create a peaceful order
W6BqCla8ch8-00106-00026220-00026502 Douglas north John Joseph Wallace and
W6BqCla8ch8-00107-00026502-00026754 Barry R wangus describe autocracies as
W6BqCla8ch8-00108-00026755-00026955 limited access orders that arise from
W6BqCla8ch8-00109-00026956-00027179 this need to monopolize violence in
W6BqCla8ch8-00110-00027180-00027411 contrast Tolson these scholars
W6BqCla8ch8-00111-00027412-00027594 understand the early state not as a
W6BqCla8ch8-00112-00027595-00027735 single ruler but as an organization
W6BqCla8ch8-00113-00027736-00028074 formed by many actors they describe the
W6BqCla8ch8-00114-00028075-00028314 process of autocratic state formation as
W6BqCla8ch8-00115-00028314-00028520 a bargaining process among individuals
W6BqCla8ch8-00116-00028522-00028785 with access to violence for them these
W6BqCla8ch8-00117-00028786-00029010 individuals form a dominant coalition
W6BqCla8ch8-00118-00029011-00029181 that grants each other privileges such
W6BqCla8ch8-00119-00029182-00029483 as the access to resources as violence
W6BqCla8ch8-00120-00029484-00029661 reduces the rents members of the
W6BqCla8ch8-00121-00029662-00029852 dominant coalition have incentives to
W6BqCla8ch8-00122-00029853-00030040 cooperate and to avoid fighting a
W6BqCla8ch8-00123-00030041-00030285 limited access to privileges is
W6BqCla8ch8-00124-00030286-00030515 necessary to avoid competition among the
W6BqCla8ch8-00125-00030516-00030699 members of the dominant coalition who
W6BqCla8ch8-00126-00030700-00030882 then will credibly commit to cooperate
W6BqCla8ch8-00127-00030883-00031485 and will form the state
W6BqCla8ch8-00128-00031486-00032001 topic maintenance
W6BqCla8ch8-00129-00032002-00032241 because autocrats need a power structure
W6BqCla8ch8-00130-00032242-00032433 to rule it can be difficult to draw a
W6BqCla8ch8-00131-00032433-00032601 clear line between historical
W6BqCla8ch8-00132-00032602-00032874 autocracies and oligarchies most
W6BqCla8ch8-00133-00032875-00033090 historical autocrats depended on their
W6BqCla8ch8-00134-00033091-00033306 nobles the military the priesthood or
W6BqCla8ch8-00135-00033307-00033612 other elite groups some autocracies are
W6BqCla8ch8-00136-00033613-00033798 rationalized by assertion of divine
W6BqCla8ch8-00137-00033799-00034086 right according to Douglas north
W6BqCla8ch8-00138-00034087-00034290 John Joseph Wallace and Barry our wine
W6BqCla8ch8-00139-00034291-00034491 guests in limited access orders the
W6BqCla8ch8-00140-00034492-00034701 state is ruled by a dominant coalition
W6BqCla8ch8-00141-00034702-00034857 formed by a small elite group that
W6BqCla8ch8-00142-00034858-00035037 relates to each other by personal
W6BqCla8ch8-00143-00035038-00035283 relationships in order to remain in
W6BqCla8ch8-00144-00035284-00035346 power
W6BqCla8ch8-00145-00035347-00035538 this elite hinders people outside the
W6BqCla8ch8-00146-00035539-00035691 dominant coalition to access
W6BqCla8ch8-00147-00035692-00036012 organizations and resources autocracy
W6BqCla8ch8-00148-00036013-00036192 then is maintained as long as the
W6BqCla8ch8-00149-00036193-00036360 personal relationships of the elite
W6BqCla8ch8-00150-00036361-00036558 continue to forge the dominant coalition
W6BqCla8ch8-00151-00036559-00036834 these scholars further suggest that once
W6BqCla8ch8-00152-00036835-00037017 the dominant coalition starts to become
W6BqCla8ch8-00153-00037018-00037203 broader and allow for impersonal
W6BqCla8ch8-00154-00037204-00037446 relationships limited access orders can
W6BqCla8ch8-00155-00037447-00037653 give place to open access orders for
W6BqCla8ch8-00156-00037654-00037890 Daron Acemoglu Simon Johnson and James
W6BqCla8ch8-00157-00037891-00038118 Robinson the allocation of political
W6BqCla8ch8-00158-00038119-00038283 power explains the maintenance of
W6BqCla8ch8-00159-00038284-00038490 autocracies which they usually refer to
W6BqCla8ch8-00160-00038491-00038841 as extractive states for them the de
W6BqCla8ch8-00161-00038842-00039006 jure political power comes from
W6BqCla8ch8-00162-00039007-00039225 political institutions whereas the de
W6BqCla8ch8-00163-00039226-00039438 facto political power is determined by
W6BqCla8ch8-00164-00039439-00039693 the distribution of resources those
W6BqCla8ch8-00165-00039694-00039864 holding the political power in the
W6BqCla8ch8-00166-00039865-00040044 present will design the political and
W6BqCla8ch8-00167-00040045-00040242 economic institutions in the future
W6BqCla8ch8-00168-00040243-00040433 according to their interests in
W6BqCla8ch8-00169-00040434-00040662 autocracies both de jure and de facto
W6BqCla8ch8-00170-00040663-00040911 political powers are concentrated in one
W6BqCla8ch8-00171-00040912-00041118 person or a small elite that will
W6BqCla8ch8-00172-00041119-00041316 promote institutions for keeping the de
W6BqCla8ch8-00173-00041317-00041553 jure political power as concentrated as
W6BqCla8ch8-00174-00041554-00041757 the de facto political power thereby
W6BqCla8ch8-00175-00041758-00041940 maintaining autocratic regimes with
W6BqCla8ch8-00176-00041941-00042580 extractive institutions
W6BqCla8ch8-00177-00042581-00043162 topic autocracy promotion
W6BqCla8ch8-00178-00043163-00043399 it has been argued that authoritarian
W6BqCla8ch8-00179-00043400-00043618 regimes such as China and Russia have
W6BqCla8ch8-00180-00043619-00043783 attempted to export their system of
W6BqCla8ch8-00181-00043784-00043954 government to other countries through
W6BqCla8ch8-00182-00043955-00044296 autocracy promotion a number of scholars
W6BqCla8ch8-00183-00044297-00044498 are skeptical that China and Russia have
W6BqCla8ch8-00184-00044499-00044708 successfully exported authoritarianism
W6BqCla8ch8-00185-00044709-00045272 abroad
W6BqCla8ch8-00186-00045273-00045865 topic historical examples
W6BqCla8ch8-00187-00045866-00046198 the Roman Empire in 27 BC Augustus
W6BqCla8ch8-00188-00046199-00046405 founded the Roman Empire following the
W6BqCla8ch8-00189-00046406-00046663 end of the Roman Republic Augustus
W6BqCla8ch8-00190-00046664-00046852 officially kept the Roman Senate while
W6BqCla8ch8-00191-00046853-00047041 effectively consolidating all of the
W6BqCla8ch8-00192-00047042-00047347 real power in himself Rome was peaceful
W6BqCla8ch8-00193-00047348-00047503 and prosperous until the dictatorial
W6BqCla8ch8-00194-00047504-00047772 rule of commode is starting in 180 ad
W6BqCla8ch8-00195-00047773-00048067 the 3rd century saw invasions from the
W6BqCla8ch8-00196-00048068-00048279 barbarians as well as economic decline
W6BqCla8ch8-00197-00048280-00048607 both Diocletian and Constantine ruled as
W6BqCla8ch8-00198-00048608-00048796 autocratic leaders strengthening the
W6BqCla8ch8-00199-00048797-00049057 control of the Emperor the Empire grew
W6BqCla8ch8-00200-00049058-00049249 extremely large and was ruled by a
W6BqCla8ch8-00201-00049250-00049521 Tetrarchy instituted by Diocletian
W6BqCla8ch8-00202-00049522-00049765 eventually it was split into two halves
W6BqCla8ch8-00203-00049766-00049969 the Western Roman and the eastern
W6BqCla8ch8-00204-00049970-00050272 Byzantine the Western Roman Empire fell
W6BqCla8ch8-00205-00050273-00050599 in 476 after Civic unrest further
W6BqCla8ch8-00206-00050600-00050839 economic decline and invasions led to
W6BqCla8ch8-00207-00050840-00051034 the surrender of Romulus Augustus 2o
W6BqCla8ch8-00208-00051035-00051310 Dicer a german king aztec empire in
W6BqCla8ch8-00209-00051311-00051532 mesoamerica the aztecs were a tremendous
W6BqCla8ch8-00210-00051533-00051729 military powerhouse that earned a
W6BqCla8ch8-00211-00051730-00051907 fearsome reputation of capturing
W6BqCla8ch8-00212-00051908-00052096 prisoners during battle to be used for
W6BqCla8ch8-00213-00052097-00052348 sacrificial rituals the priesthood
W6BqCla8ch8-00214-00052349-00052564 supported a Pantheon that demanded human
W6BqCla8ch8-00215-00052565-00052807 sacrifice and the nobility consisted
W6BqCla8ch8-00216-00052808-00053002 mainly of warriors who had captured many
W6BqCla8ch8-00217-00053003-00053190 prisoners for these sacrificial rites
W6BqCla8ch8-00218-00053191-00053479 the Aztec emperor hence functioned both
W6BqCla8ch8-00219-00053479-00053679 as the sole ruler of the empire in its
W6BqCla8ch8-00220-00053680-00053887 military forces and as the religious
W6BqCla8ch8-00221-00053888-00054022 figurehead behind the Empire's
W6BqCla8ch8-00222-00054023-00054330 aggressive foreign policy Chile under
W6BqCla8ch8-00223-00054332-00054652 the dictatorship of Pinochet Tsarist and
W6BqCla8ch8-00224-00054653-00054855 Imperial Russia shortly after being
W6BqCla8ch8-00225-00054857-00055075 crowned as ruler Tsar Ivan immediately
W6BqCla8ch8-00226-00055076-00055240 removed his political enemies by
W6BqCla8ch8-00227-00055241-00055459 execution or exile and established
W6BqCla8ch8-00228-00055460-00055684 dominance over an empire expanding the
W6BqCla8ch8-00229-00055685-00055945 borders of his kingdom dramatically to
W6BqCla8ch8-00230-00055946-00056146 enforce his rule Ivan the Terrible
W6BqCla8ch8-00231-00056147-00056335 established the Streltsy as Russia's
W6BqCla8ch8-00232-00056336-00056515 standing army and he developed two
W6BqCla8ch8-00233-00056516-00056698 cavalry divisions that were fiercely
W6BqCla8ch8-00234-00056699-00056920 loyal to the Tsar the cossacks and the
W6BqCla8ch8-00235-00056921-00057226 oprichniki in his later years Ivan made
W6BqCla8ch8-00236-00057227-00057429 orders for his forces to sack the city
W6BqCla8ch8-00237-00057430-00057627 of Novgorod in fear of being overthrown
W6BqCla8ch8-00238-00057628-00057982 the ideology orthodoxy autocracy and
W6BqCla8ch8-00239-00057983-00058201 nationality was introduced by Emperor
W6BqCla8ch8-00240-00058202-00058516 Nicholas the first of Russia tokugawa
W6BqCla8ch8-00241-00058516-00058744 shogunate medieval japan was caught in a
W6BqCla8ch8-00242-00058745-00058912 vicious series of skirmishes between
W6BqCla8ch8-00243-00058913-00059191 warring clans States and rulers all of
W6BqCla8ch8-00244-00059191-00059256 them vying for
W6BqCla8ch8-00245-00059257-00059521 power in a mad scramble while many of
W6BqCla8ch8-00246-00059522-00059700 these lords struggled against each other
W6BqCla8ch8-00247-00059701-00059973 openly ieyasu tokugawa seized mastery of
W6BqCla8ch8-00248-00059974-00060190 all of Japan through a mix of superior
W6BqCla8ch8-00249-00060191-00060421 tactics and cunning diplomacy until he
W6BqCla8ch8-00250-00060422-00060687 became the dominant power of the land by
W6BqCla8ch8-00251-00060688-00060879 establishing his Shogunate as the sole
W6BqCla8ch8-00252-00060880-00061116 ruling power in Japan ieyasu tokugawa
W6BqCla8ch8-00253-00061117-00061311 and his successors controlled all
W6BqCla8ch8-00254-00061312-00061428 aspects of life
W6BqCla8ch8-00255-00061429-00061599 closing the borders of japan to all
W6BqCla8ch8-00256-00061600-00061806 foreign nations and ruling with a policy
W6BqCla8ch8-00257-00061807-00062136 of isolationism Nazi Germany after the
W6BqCla8ch8-00258-00062137-00062343 failed Beer Hall Putsch the National
W6BqCla8ch8-00259-00062344-00062560 Socialist German Workers Party began a
W6BqCla8ch8-00260-00062561-00062766 more subtle political strategy to take
W6BqCla8ch8-00261-00062767-00062865 over the government
W6BqCla8ch8-00262-00062866-00063085 following a tense social and political
W6BqCla8ch8-00263-00063086-00063391 environment in the 1930s the Nazis under
W6BqCla8ch8-00264-00063391-00063603 Adolf Hitler took advantage of the civil
W6BqCla8ch8-00265-00063604-00063762 unrest of the state to seize power
W6BqCla8ch8-00266-00063763-00063936 through cunning propaganda and by the
W6BqCla8ch8-00267-00063937-00064116 charismatic speeches of their party
W6BqCla8ch8-00268-00064117-00064350 leader by the time Hitler was appointed
W6BqCla8ch8-00269-00064351-00064585 Chancellor the Nazi Party began to
W6BqCla8ch8-00270-00064586-00064773 restrict civil liberties on the public
W6BqCla8ch8-00271-00064774-00065007 following the Reichstag fire with a
W6BqCla8ch8-00272-00065008-00065191 combination of cooperation and
W6BqCla8ch8-00273-00065191-00065391 intimidation Hitler and his party
W6BqCla8ch8-00274-00065392-00065560 systematically weakened all opposition
W6BqCla8ch8-00275-00065561-00065793 to his rule transforming the Weimar
W6BqCla8ch8-00276-00065794-00066000 Republic into a fascist dictatorship
W6BqCla8ch8-00277-00066001-00066196 where Hitler alone spoke and acted on
W6BqCla8ch8-00278-00066197-00066490 behalf of Germany Nazi Germany as an
W6BqCla8ch8-00279-00066491-00066732 example of an autocracy run primarily by
W6BqCla8ch8-00280-00066733-00066960 a single leader but many decisions made
W6BqCla8ch8-00281-00066961-00067171 by Hitler coincided with the interests
W6BqCla8ch8-00282-00067172-00067390 in ideology of the Nazi Party in mind
W6BqCla8ch8-00283-00067391-00067603 also making an example of an autocracy
W6BqCla8ch8-00284-00067604-00067812 ruled by a political party rather than
W6BqCla8ch8-00285-00067813-00068209 solely one man Soviet Union during
W6BqCla8ch8-00286-00068210-00068521 Joseph Stalin's rule Spain during
W6BqCla8ch8-00287-00068522-00069157 Francisco Franco's rule
W6BqCla8ch8-00288-00069158-00069687 topic C also
W6BqCla8ch8-00289-00069688-00070103 and knock recei authoritarianism
W6BqCla8ch8-00290-00070104-00070568 centralization pure Princip theocracy
W6BqCla8ch8-00291-00070569-00070902 Tsarist autocracy
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W7XTT3mouxu-00002-00000698-00001108 conference 2022 here in the last few
W7XTT3mouxu-00003-00001109-00001312 days and we're here in Bucharest and
W7XTT3mouxu-00004-00001313-00001481 Romania I'm very pleased to be joined in
W7XTT3mouxu-00005-00001482-00001673 the studio today by Thomas dammonauskas
W7XTT3mouxu-00006-00001673-00001859 who is the Deputy Secretary General
W7XTT3mouxu-00007-00001860-00002129 elect Thomas congratulations and welcome
W7XTT3mouxu-00008-00002130-00002279 to the studio thank you very much Max
W7XTT3mouxu-00009-00002280-00002447 always the pleasure not the first time
W7XTT3mouxu-00010-00002448-00002675 and definitely not the last absolutely
W7XTT3mouxu-00011-00002676-00002891 not now the deputy secretary General
W7XTT3mouxu-00012-00002892-00003149 fulfills a a key role in the itu
W7XTT3mouxu-00013-00003150-00003286 leadership team it's supporting the
W7XTT3mouxu-00014-00003288-00003436 Secretary General with organizational
W7XTT3mouxu-00015-00003438-00003683 management or other tasks what have you
W7XTT3mouxu-00016-00003684-00003940 been up to in the last few days since
W7XTT3mouxu-00017-00003942-00004036 you were elected have you had
W7XTT3mouxu-00018-00004037-00004259 conversations with with Dorian bogdon
W7XTT3mouxu-00019-00004260-00004445 Martin our Secretary General elect who's
W7XTT3mouxu-00020-00004446-00004649 soon to be taking office and perhaps you
W7XTT3mouxu-00021-00004650-00004793 could tell us a little bit about how you
W7XTT3mouxu-00022-00004794-00005104 plan to support her in taking itu
W7XTT3mouxu-00023-00005105-00005315 forward thank you Max and as you
W7XTT3mouxu-00024-00005316-00005452 probably know and some people would know
W7XTT3mouxu-00025-00005453-00005656 and as they said in my acceptance
W7XTT3mouxu-00026-00005657-00005879 speeches is the third time Doreen will
W7XTT3mouxu-00027-00005880-00006118 be my boss so I don't think we need to
W7XTT3mouxu-00028-00006119-00006322 learn a lot about each other I think we
W7XTT3mouxu-00029-00006323-00006527 have a great working relationship and of
W7XTT3mouxu-00030-00006528-00006845 course us that means you know so the uh
W7XTT3mouxu-00031-00006845-00007073 the this relationship is now we'll just
W7XTT3mouxu-00032-00007073-00007253 build on it so first of all I think this
W7XTT3mouxu-00033-00007254-00007396 is pretty clearly defined role of the
W7XTT3mouxu-00034-00007397-00007655 Pacific General now and I'm having some
W7XTT3mouxu-00035-00007656-00007834 great time and discussions with Malcolm
W7XTT3mouxu-00036-00007836-00008056 in in the transition period and I'm
W7XTT3mouxu-00037-00008058-00008267 really thankful for him to making that
W7XTT3mouxu-00038-00008268-00008446 transition period very smooth from the
W7XTT3mouxu-00039-00008447-00008795 day one and to ensure that I fit in his
W7XTT3mouxu-00040-00008796-00009028 shoes now and I think then once once
W7XTT3mouxu-00041-00009029-00009155 they're fitting issues now and of course
W7XTT3mouxu-00042-00009156-00009353 we'll continue to discussing with zarine
W7XTT3mouxu-00043-00009354-00009592 how the straw could evolve and you know
W7XTT3mouxu-00044-00009593-00009803 as you probably understand the deputy
W7XTT3mouxu-00045-00009804-00009971 secretary General's role is it's a bit
W7XTT3mouxu-00046-00009972-00010139 more fluid role than others you know so
W7XTT3mouxu-00047-00010140-00010331 I of course I'm here to support the rain
W7XTT3mouxu-00048-00010332-00010469 I'm here to support the elected
W7XTT3mouxu-00049-00010470-00010769 directors and what I'm here to build on
W7XTT3mouxu-00050-00010770-00010913 what's already achieved and then
W7XTT3mouxu-00051-00010914-00011069 together with directors in the rain to
W7XTT3mouxu-00052-00011070-00011188 see where the adjustments are needed
W7XTT3mouxu-00053-00011189-00011356 yeah we're probably going to be one of
W7XTT3mouxu-00054-00011357-00011524 the the youngest if not the youngest
W7XTT3mouxu-00055-00011525-00011764 deputy secretary General that the itu
W7XTT3mouxu-00056-00011765-00011938 has had you must be coming through with
W7XTT3mouxu-00057-00011939-00012227 new brand new fresh ideas and and energy
W7XTT3mouxu-00058-00012228-00012383 yeah you're going to put all that into
W7XTT3mouxu-00059-00012384-00012605 action thank you and I think I want to
W7XTT3mouxu-00060-00012606-00012802 to pick up a bit on that word youngest
W7XTT3mouxu-00061-00012803-00013049 now and I've been told them the youngest
W7XTT3mouxu-00062-00013050-00013336 or one of the youngest and I probably am
W7XTT3mouxu-00063-00013337-00013630 I think I don't want to be known as the
W7XTT3mouxu-00064-00013631-00013780 youngest deputy secretary General I want
W7XTT3mouxu-00065-00013781-00014003 to be the deputy secretary General and I
W7XTT3mouxu-00066-00014004-00014201 think to fulfill my duties to the union
W7XTT3mouxu-00067-00014202-00014435 and to fill my mandate and to fill the
W7XTT3mouxu-00068-00014436-00014597 vision that we discussed over the member
W7XTT3mouxu-00069-00014597-00014908 states when I was elected and there was
W7XTT3mouxu-00070-00014909-00015191 a was campaigning and I want to also you
W7XTT3mouxu-00071-00015191-00015383 know bring the fresh ideas hopefully you
W7XTT3mouxu-00072-00015384-00015580 know from the industry that I spent some
W7XTT3mouxu-00073-00015581-00015844 time after my last time in itu let's say
W7XTT3mouxu-00074-00015845-00016049 you know and from different parts of the
W7XTT3mouxu-00075-00016050-00016265 world there's been quite a few years of
W7XTT3mouxu-00076-00016266-00016529 my life as a regulatory and policy roles
W7XTT3mouxu-00077-00016530-00016769 but also want to build on a legacy and I
W7XTT3mouxu-00078-00016770-00016858 think that's very important to
W7XTT3mouxu-00079-00016859-00017069 understand that you know we we have 157
W7XTT3mouxu-00080-00017070-00017249 years Legacy you have a lot of people
W7XTT3mouxu-00081-00017250-00017500 both in itu but also in the delegates
W7XTT3mouxu-00082-00017501-00017675 have a lot of knowledge a lot of
W7XTT3mouxu-00083-00017676-00017993 experience and they have the world of
W7XTT3mouxu-00084-00017994-00018239 valuable insights as well you know what
W7XTT3mouxu-00085-00018240-00018430 um Howard you should evolve so my view
W7XTT3mouxu-00086-00018431-00018629 is we need to harness that insight
W7XTT3mouxu-00087-00018630-00018929 harness that experience and then put it
W7XTT3mouxu-00088-00018930-00019235 to use you know to to into refreshing at
W7XTT3mouxu-00089-00019236-00019414 you together okay I mean it's early days
W7XTT3mouxu-00090-00019415-00019667 but and you of course haven't taken up
W7XTT3mouxu-00091-00019668-00019805 your mandate yet but I want to ask you
W7XTT3mouxu-00092-00019806-00019930 how do you think you'll be able to help
W7XTT3mouxu-00093-00019931-00020117 the new Secretary General along with the
W7XTT3mouxu-00094-00020118-00020321 three Bureau directors Advance itu's
W7XTT3mouxu-00095-00020322-00020500 mission to connect the world and
W7XTT3mouxu-00096-00020501-00020627 contribute to achieving the UN
W7XTT3mouxu-00097-00020628-00020830 sustainable development goals thanks
W7XTT3mouxu-00098-00020831-00020999 very much and I think first piece for me
W7XTT3mouxu-00099-00021000-00021149 is what they call engine
W7XTT3mouxu-00100-00021150-00021377 and engine means so you know just all
W7XTT3mouxu-00101-00021378-00021557 the operations of which you that we need
W7XTT3mouxu-00102-00021558-00021736 to run well you know because that's a
W7XTT3mouxu-00103-00021737-00021911 thing you know people forget you know
W7XTT3mouxu-00104-00021912-00022114 when we talk about policy and Regulation
W7XTT3mouxu-00105-00022115-00022385 and and and space and different other
W7XTT3mouxu-00106-00022386-00022661 topics that it used as secretary at the
W7XTT3mouxu-00107-00022662-00022835 support membership and that secretary
W7XTT3mouxu-00108-00022836-00023086 needs to run well as a well well-oiled
W7XTT3mouxu-00109-00023087-00023249 Machine you know and for me that's
W7XTT3mouxu-00110-00023250-00023530 really the first priority as you know
W7XTT3mouxu-00111-00023531-00023669 and Michael Bain I was calling that
W7XTT3mouxu-00112-00023670-00023878 Chief Operating Officer role is the
W7XTT3mouxu-00113-00023879-00024017 first priority to make sure that the
W7XTT3mouxu-00114-00024018-00024167 engine is run well you know from
W7XTT3mouxu-00115-00024168-00024544 procurement to conferences to is you
W7XTT3mouxu-00116-00024545-00024808 know to Communications as well you know
W7XTT3mouxu-00117-00024809-00025030 to to all the aspects and that really
W7XTT3mouxu-00118-00025031-00025271 that our Bureau directors and our
W7XTT3mouxu-00119-00025272-00025486 sectors feel full support of General
W7XTT3mouxu-00120-00025487-00025739 Secretary and my full attention and they
W7XTT3mouxu-00121-00025739-00025943 really feel well served together with
W7XTT3mouxu-00122-00025944-00026134 our membership so that's that's the
W7XTT3mouxu-00123-00026135-00026296 first thing the second which isolated
W7XTT3mouxu-00124-00026297-00026567 that again deputy secretary General role
W7XTT3mouxu-00125-00026568-00026801 has that word intersectoral in it to
W7XTT3mouxu-00126-00026802-00027040 know a lot of times and what I call 180
W7XTT3mouxu-00127-00027041-00027335 role a lot of members with my itu so I
W7XTT3mouxu-00128-00027336-00027520 think I'm here also to support Doreen to
W7XTT3mouxu-00129-00027522-00027737 make sure that all five of us always
W7XTT3mouxu-00130-00027738-00027905 work as one team and and to do whatever
W7XTT3mouxu-00131-00027906-00028127 is needed to help direct us to make
W7XTT3mouxu-00132-00028127-00028312 everyone feel as one team and to help
W7XTT3mouxu-00133-00028313-00028457 everyone discuss the things put the
W7XTT3mouxu-00134-00028458-00028624 things on the table sometimes have
W7XTT3mouxu-00135-00028625-00028793 constructive disagreements if we need to
W7XTT3mouxu-00136-00028794-00029020 but always work in that one team spirit
W7XTT3mouxu-00137-00029022-00029207 and I'm definitely here to support Irene
W7XTT3mouxu-00138-00029208-00029374 I'm here to support directors to make
W7XTT3mouxu-00139-00029375-00029627 sure that we really work in that and the
W7XTT3mouxu-00140-00029627-00029783 last the last piece they call
W7XTT3mouxu-00141-00029783-00030011 campaigning some people told me after
W7XTT3mouxu-00142-00030012-00030185 elections I said Thomas you should stop
W7XTT3mouxu-00143-00030186-00030383 campaigning now you know should work and
W7XTT3mouxu-00144-00030383-00030533 I thought about that we thought I was
W7XTT3mouxu-00145-00030533-00030787 pretty good at campaigning
W7XTT3mouxu-00146-00030788-00031102 and then maybe maybe there is a very big
W7XTT3mouxu-00147-00031104-00031324 point for me to continue on that but not
W7XTT3mouxu-00148-00031325-00031523 continue campaigning for myself anymore
W7XTT3mouxu-00149-00031524-00031817 but continue campaigning for it you and
W7XTT3mouxu-00150-00031818-00032087 for certain things I I think A2 stands
W7XTT3mouxu-00151-00032088-00032357 for because I think sometimes we forget
W7XTT3mouxu-00152-00032358-00032627 that the biggest power that you have is
W7XTT3mouxu-00153-00032627-00032818 not the money you can spend it's not a
W7XTT3mouxu-00154-00032819-00033005 concrete project when you do but the
W7XTT3mouxu-00155-00033006-00033215 attention we have the credibility we
W7XTT3mouxu-00156-00033216-00033407 have and the Mandate of the countries we
W7XTT3mouxu-00157-00033408-00033599 have and we need to use that with fear
W7XTT3mouxu-00158-00033600-00033821 but we can use it with power as well so
W7XTT3mouxu-00159-00033822-00034037 I really want to continue bringing you
W7XTT3mouxu-00160-00034038-00034349 know that voice you know out for raising
W7XTT3mouxu-00161-00034350-00034565 ambition on climate change connecting
W7XTT3mouxu-00162-00034566-00034721 everyone while working with everyone
W7XTT3mouxu-00163-00034722-00035009 else making sure that every country is
W7XTT3mouxu-00164-00035010-00035321 in this world has a say and and decision
W7XTT3mouxu-00165-00035322-00035537 making power in whatever we do you know
W7XTT3mouxu-00166-00035538-00035824 I think for me that's also that's very
W7XTT3mouxu-00167-00035825-00035968 important role of mine and that doesn't
W7XTT3mouxu-00168-00035969-00036155 need a lot of stuff it doesn't need a
W7XTT3mouxu-00169-00036156-00036401 lot of resources we think itu has an
W7XTT3mouxu-00170-00036402-00036646 amazing asset that we need to leverage
W7XTT3mouxu-00171-00036647-00036845 for the good of everyone okay you're
W7XTT3mouxu-00172-00036846-00036977 required right to say you're no longer
W7XTT3mouxu-00173-00036978-00037259 campaigning anymore and and 100 I will
W7XTT3mouxu-00174-00037260-00037462 reinforce that to you just in case it
W7XTT3mouxu-00175-00037463-00037631 slipped You by but I think the important
W7XTT3mouxu-00176-00037632-00037996 thing to ask you is you while you were
W7XTT3mouxu-00177-00037997-00038117 campaigning you were having lots of
W7XTT3mouxu-00178-00038118-00038339 conversations with all sorts of member
W7XTT3mouxu-00179-00038340-00038440 state case you're having those
W7XTT3mouxu-00180-00038441-00038602 conversation with industry I'm sure with
W7XTT3mouxu-00181-00038603-00038777 all sorts of people to support your
W7XTT3mouxu-00182-00038778-00038909 campaign
W7XTT3mouxu-00183-00038910-00039089 you must have been getting a feeling of
W7XTT3mouxu-00184-00039090-00039467 how itu is perceived both within our
W7XTT3mouxu-00185-00039468-00039659 friendly environment but also outside
W7XTT3mouxu-00186-00039660-00039952 too I want to ask you how do you think
W7XTT3mouxu-00187-00039953-00040277 you can make and help and push the
W7XTT3mouxu-00188-00040278-00040505 message forward for itu and make it
W7XTT3mouxu-00189-00040506-00040757 relevant on the global stage so first of
W7XTT3mouxu-00190-00040758-00041068 all and anyway that we know you know we
W7XTT3mouxu-00191-00041069-00041207 discussed a lot in that campaign and
W7XTT3mouxu-00192-00041208-00041387 there you know so when everything is
W7XTT3mouxu-00193-00041388-00041668 digital you know so it's kind of good
W7XTT3mouxu-00194-00041669-00041818 for it you because we've been the
W7XTT3mouxu-00195-00041819-00041993 digital for the longest you know and
W7XTT3mouxu-00196-00041994-00042190 that organization but same time as it's
W7XTT3mouxu-00197-00042191-00042365 at risk you know then when we become
W7XTT3mouxu-00198-00042366-00042574 what I was calling fiscal contributor to
W7XTT3mouxu-00199-00042575-00042724 every question in my campaign exactly
W7XTT3mouxu-00200-00042725-00042905 but we've been relevant I mean but in
W7XTT3mouxu-00201-00042906-00043109 digital in in one way but we've also
W7XTT3mouxu-00202-00043110-00043301 been from the telegraph so I mean it's
W7XTT3mouxu-00203-00043302-00043565 uh it's a very old organization where
W7XTT3mouxu-00204-00043566-00043823 one that essentially has got a lot of
W7XTT3mouxu-00205-00043824-00044074 Gravitas but not necessarily as much
W7XTT3mouxu-00206-00044075-00044302 high profile as it should perhaps on the
W7XTT3mouxu-00207-00044303-00044465 glove I understand I agree with you but
W7XTT3mouxu-00208-00044466-00044639 I think that's what and that's kind of
W7XTT3mouxu-00209-00044640-00044902 us being digital now we need to Define
W7XTT3mouxu-00210-00044903-00045233 digital is for us and what is our core
W7XTT3mouxu-00211-00045234-00045407 strength and capabilities to contribute
W7XTT3mouxu-00212-00045408-00045562 from which angle it is you know because
W7XTT3mouxu-00213-00045563-00045701 as there is that we'll try to contribute
W7XTT3mouxu-00214-00045702-00045874 to everything and we then kind of will
W7XTT3mouxu-00215-00045875-00046049 not be able to make an impact so I think
W7XTT3mouxu-00216-00046050-00046295 really clarifying the role really
W7XTT3mouxu-00217-00046296-00046493 clarifying what we can do with our
W7XTT3mouxu-00218-00046494-00046667 strengths are and I think you know we
W7XTT3mouxu-00219-00046668-00046912 see some great developments here in this
W7XTT3mouxu-00220-00046913-00047099 conference you know for example on a
W7XTT3mouxu-00221-00047100-00047285 serious resolution on Space you know and
W7XTT3mouxu-00222-00047286-00047512 what does that use role in space you
W7XTT3mouxu-00223-00047513-00047680 know how membership wants that you to
W7XTT3mouxu-00224-00047681-00047867 deliver on space and what is our you
W7XTT3mouxu-00225-00047868-00048040 know contribution to the bigger space
W7XTT3mouxu-00226-00048041-00048239 agenda which is now huge you know so we
W7XTT3mouxu-00227-00048240-00048389 you know everyone talks about it you
W7XTT3mouxu-00228-00048390-00048574 know we not only
W7XTT3mouxu-00229-00048575-00048767 about connectivity you know but
W7XTT3mouxu-00230-00048768-00048940 different other aspects as well and I
W7XTT3mouxu-00231-00048941-00049102 think for me that's that's very
W7XTT3mouxu-00232-00049103-00049246 important piece I think that's how we
W7XTT3mouxu-00233-00049247-00049433 can be relevant when we clear in other
W7XTT3mouxu-00234-00049434-00049577 words we can contribute so that's first
W7XTT3mouxu-00235-00049578-00049877 second and I think I started that in my
W7XTT3mouxu-00236-00049878-00050008 campaign and I know the reading is
W7XTT3mouxu-00237-00050009-00050177 really strong about that is really
W7XTT3mouxu-00238-00050178-00050423 linking it to you with everything else
W7XTT3mouxu-00239-00050424-00050579 that's happening in the United Nations
W7XTT3mouxu-00240-00050580-00050951 so having a clear piece in the Mosaic
W7XTT3mouxu-00241-00050952-00051232 but realizing that we're animals like
W7XTT3mouxu-00242-00051233-00051413 and we need to work with everyone else
W7XTT3mouxu-00243-00051414-00051635 and it's no no longer
W7XTT3mouxu-00244-00051636-00051940 you know 157 years ago it was the
W7XTT3mouxu-00245-00051941-00052187 international Telegraph Union their name
W7XTT3mouxu-00246-00052188-00052390 there because now is one of the
W7XTT3mouxu-00247-00052391-00052594 organizations that is active in that
W7XTT3mouxu-00248-00052595-00052787 space you know when we have Tech Envoy
W7XTT3mouxu-00249-00052788-00052900 office
W7XTT3mouxu-00250-00052901-00053063 we have different other un agencies
W7XTT3mouxu-00251-00053064-00053266 working there we need to build a very
W7XTT3mouxu-00252-00053267-00053441 strong relationship with those agencies
W7XTT3mouxu-00253-00053441-00053603 and to make sure that we support each
W7XTT3mouxu-00254-00053604-00053771 other we support them they support us
W7XTT3mouxu-00255-00053772-00053969 and we're in Industry as well and that
W7XTT3mouxu-00256-00053970-00054191 and that that's how I achieved now with
W7XTT3mouxu-00257-00054191-00054388 industry that's exactly you know as if
W7XTT3mouxu-00258-00054389-00054538 you read my notes or preparing for this
W7XTT3mouxu-00259-00054539-00054797 interview I could assure you very great
W7XTT3mouxu-00260-00054798-00054976 but that's exactly my third point you
W7XTT3mouxu-00261-00054977-00055192 know industry engagement and Industry
W7XTT3mouxu-00262-00055194-00055373 engagement throughout you know and
W7XTT3mouxu-00263-00055374-00055523 sometimes in these rooms here people
W7XTT3mouxu-00264-00055524-00055715 feel disillusioned on some discussions
W7XTT3mouxu-00265-00055716-00055991 about industry you know but I I heard
W7XTT3mouxu-00266-00055991-00056176 with a lot of delegate I spoke with a
W7XTT3mouxu-00267-00056177-00056375 lot of delegates here and I've heard it
W7XTT3mouxu-00268-00056376-00056465 strongly
W7XTT3mouxu-00269-00056466-00056819 we need engagements now how that feeds
W7XTT3mouxu-00270-00056820-00056963 into the formal processes you know
W7XTT3mouxu-00271-00056964-00057100 that's sometimes a different thing but
W7XTT3mouxu-00272-00057101-00057275 but we definitely need to engage in the
W7XTT3mouxu-00273-00057276-00057509 street and we need to avoid strong and I
W7XTT3mouxu-00274-00057510-00057700 was you know in my campaign I spoke to a
W7XTT3mouxu-00275-00057701-00057880 lot of Industry leaders here and
W7XTT3mouxu-00276-00057882-00058126 sometimes they felt they didn't really
W7XTT3mouxu-00277-00058127-00058391 fully found a space and place not you
W7XTT3mouxu-00278-00058391-00058666 this this experts did yes to the groups
W7XTT3mouxu-00279-00058667-00058841 and sometimes they found a place in a
W7XTT3mouxu-00280-00058841-00059099 advocacy piece but they didn't find the
W7XTT3mouxu-00281-00059100-00059261 space in the kind of more strategic
W7XTT3mouxu-00282-00059262-00059404 discussion piece and I think we need
W7XTT3mouxu-00283-00059405-00059609 them I saw a lot of that energy on the
W7XTT3mouxu-00284-00059610-00059794 other side and we need to respond to
W7XTT3mouxu-00285-00059795-00059980 that energy with our energy and I think
W7XTT3mouxu-00286-00059982-00060215 again having the ring there you know our
W7XTT3mouxu-00287-00060216-00060371 capable of directors there I think will
W7XTT3mouxu-00288-00060372-00060550 have that so basically for me
W7XTT3mouxu-00289-00060551-00060742 understanding what we are good at and
W7XTT3mouxu-00290-00060744-00061003 how we can contribute then really
W7XTT3mouxu-00291-00061004-00061259 understanding the biggest un family and
W7XTT3mouxu-00292-00061260-00061415 international organization family know
W7XTT3mouxu-00293-00061416-00061588 who we are I know that we're there to
W7XTT3mouxu-00294-00061589-00061835 support so we help each other and third
W7XTT3mouxu-00295-00061836-00062044 really engaging the industry being
W7XTT3mouxu-00296-00062045-00062230 relevant to them and listening to them
W7XTT3mouxu-00297-00062232-00062404 where the world is going and how we can
W7XTT3mouxu-00298-00062405-00062585 contribute hope some of these
W7XTT3mouxu-00299-00062586-00062897 ingredients may help make a tune even
W7XTT3mouxu-00300-00062898-00063053 more relevant I should say well you
W7XTT3mouxu-00301-00063054-00063179 mentioned energy there I'm sure there
W7XTT3mouxu-00302-00063179-00063323 won't be any lack of energy from your
W7XTT3mouxu-00303-00063324-00063569 side to try and make this a reality
W7XTT3mouxu-00304-00063570-00063761 Thomas dammonascus thank you so much for
W7XTT3mouxu-00305-00063762-00063929 joining us in the studio and of course
W7XTT3mouxu-00306-00063929-00064126 we will catch up with you again plenty
W7XTT3mouxu-00307-00064127-00064325 of times in not too distant future and
W7XTT3mouxu-00308-00064326-00064456 Beyond thanks very much indeed thank you
W7XTT3mouxu-00309-00064457-00064625 very much from Max always a pleasure
W7XTT3mouxu-00310-00064626-00064750 thank you thank you
W7XTT3mouxu-00311-00064751-00065279 [Music]
WriMi-rk8cA-00000-00000059-00000640 [Music]
WriMi-rk8cA-00001-00000641-00000931 all right friends so in this next
WriMi-rk8cA-00002-00000932-00001189 experiment we're going to be using two
WriMi-rk8cA-00003-00001190-00001390 different types of fuel we're going to
WriMi-rk8cA-00004-00001391-00001654 be using a solid which we have is our
WriMi-rk8cA-00005-00001655-00001879 paper towels and we're also going to use
WriMi-rk8cA-00006-00001880-00002160 a liquid so we have solid in a liquid
WriMi-rk8cA-00007-00002161-00002458 again as our fuel source so we're gonna
WriMi-rk8cA-00008-00002459-00002671 saturate our paper towels with this
WriMi-rk8cA-00009-00002672-00002899 lighter fluid and we have our paper
WriMi-rk8cA-00010-00002900-00003076 towels and they're ready to go now the
WriMi-rk8cA-00011-00003077-00003247 next thing we need to do is we need to
WriMi-rk8cA-00012-00003247-00003517 add our flame so we're going to use this
WriMi-rk8cA-00013-00003518-00004047 match here and like that perfect so we
WriMi-rk8cA-00014-00004049-00004267 have a good combustion reaction now I'm
WriMi-rk8cA-00015-00004268-00004558 going to add this giant cage over the
WriMi-rk8cA-00016-00004559-00004957 top of our playing here so we're gonna
WriMi-rk8cA-00017-00004958-00005194 latch this on get it nice and tight
WriMi-rk8cA-00018-00005195-00005425 perfect and it is very important that we
WriMi-rk8cA-00019-00005426-00005656 use our safety gloves so I'm gonna put
WriMi-rk8cA-00020-00005657-00005896 these on before we get started now we
WriMi-rk8cA-00021-00005897-00006160 see we have a nice flame in the center
WriMi-rk8cA-00022-00006161-00006427 of our cage now what I'm gonna do is I'm
WriMi-rk8cA-00023-00006428-00006727 gonna spin the base here and this cage
WriMi-rk8cA-00024-00006728-00006942 is gonna spin as well and you can see
WriMi-rk8cA-00025-00006943-00007203 that the shape of our flame is changing
WriMi-rk8cA-00026-00007204-00007464 and the flame is actually growing taller
WriMi-rk8cA-00027-00007465-00007764 so we're getting a taller plane and it
WriMi-rk8cA-00028-00007765-00008067 has that cool spinning vortex shape now
WriMi-rk8cA-00029-00008068-00008284 you may be wondering what is this giant
WriMi-rk8cA-00030-00008285-00008662 cage doing it's actually funnily oxygen
WriMi-rk8cA-00031-00008663-00008931 to our plane so we're getting a bigger
WriMi-rk8cA-00032-00008932-00009249 reaction so our planes growing the more
WriMi-rk8cA-00033-00009250-00009502 oxygen we have now when I stop spinning
WriMi-rk8cA-00034-00009503-00009898 our flame gets much smaller and we don't
WriMi-rk8cA-00035-00009899-00010170 have that cool spinning vortex shape so
WriMi-rk8cA-00036-00010171-00010506 when we add more oxygen and this cage
WriMi-rk8cA-00037-00010507-00010816 funnels in oxygen we get a bigger plane
WriMi-rk8cA-00038-00010817-00011124 a bigger combustion reaction and when we
WriMi-rk8cA-00039-00011125-00011419 stop spinning and we have less oxygen
WriMi-rk8cA-00040-00011420-00011770 it's a smaller flame so I want you to
WriMi-rk8cA-00041-00011771-00012081 think for a minute how could we take
WriMi-rk8cA-00042-00012082-00012402 away all of the oxygen we need to
WriMi-rk8cA-00043-00012403-00012585 extinguish this flame and we need to
WriMi-rk8cA-00044-00012586-00012877 take away all the oxygen I have a good
WriMi-rk8cA-00045-00012878-00013207 idea we're gonna use this big cup here
WriMi-rk8cA-00046-00013208-00013474 this glass and we're going to smother it
WriMi-rk8cA-00047-00013475-00013702 we're going to cover the flame and we're
WriMi-rk8cA-00048-00013703-00013938 going to take away all of the oxygen and
WriMi-rk8cA-00049-00013940-00014287 our flame goes away because we know
WriMi-rk8cA-00050-00014288-00014469 we've talked about it before in our last
WriMi-rk8cA-00051-00014470-00014778 experiment we have to have oxygen for
WriMi-rk8cA-00052-00014779-00014994 our combustion reaction and if we don't
WriMi-rk8cA-00053-00014995-00015316 have oxygen our flame goes out so you
WriMi-rk8cA-00054-00015316-00015594 may hear sometimes firefighters say stop
WriMi-rk8cA-00055-00015595-00015672 drop and roll
WriMi-rk8cA-00056-00015673-00015937 it's exactly why we want to take away
WriMi-rk8cA-00057-00015938-00016228 the oxygen so even if you're at home and
WriMi-rk8cA-00058-00016229-00016431 there's a kitchen fire instead of
WriMi-rk8cA-00059-00016432-00016708 splashing water you may spread the flame
WriMi-rk8cA-00060-00016709-00016936 you want to try to cover it and take
WriMi-rk8cA-00061-00016937-00017236 away the oxygen because we know we need
WriMi-rk8cA-00062-00017237-00017575 oxygen heat and fuel source to have a
WriMi-rk8cA-00063-00017576-00018358 combustion reaction
WriMi-rk8cA-00064-00018359-00018565 you
WsF-B0Ekla4-00000-00000059-00000301 Arrow
WsF-B0Ekla4-00001-00000302-00000611 background because why why am I seeing
WsF-B0Ekla4-00002-00000612-00001000 some disturbing images now
WsF-B0Ekla4-00003-00001001-00001447 see yesterday
WsF-B0Ekla4-00004-00001448-00002063 my instructions
WsF-B0Ekla4-00005-00002064-00002260 but why are you trying to behave like
WsF-B0Ekla4-00006-00002261-00002375 that
WsF-B0Ekla4-00007-00002376-00002855 organized
WsF-B0Ekla4-00008-00002856-00003131 so I have to be there all the time for
WsF-B0Ekla4-00009-00003132-00003619 things
WsF-B0Ekla4-00010-00003620-00004006 we need to begin who talks to who has to
WsF-B0Ekla4-00011-00004007-00004111 be yet
WsF-B0Ekla4-00012-00004112-00004361 even though the lawyers that are coming
WsF-B0Ekla4-00013-00004362-00004633 I even imagine
WsF-B0Ekla4-00014-00004634-00004915 you know how to twice
WsF-B0Ekla4-00015-00004916-00005243 apps you now do twice anyway you know
WsF-B0Ekla4-00016-00005244-00005797 how to do a behaves
WsF-B0Ekla4-00017-00005798-00005995 you need to be
WsF-B0Ekla4-00018-00005996-00006475 equipped in another family now that is
WsF-B0Ekla4-00019-00006476-00006731 we need to be sharp when dealing with
WsF-B0Ekla4-00020-00006731-00007048 such issues ah
WsF-B0Ekla4-00021-00007050-00007405 who appointed is
WsF-B0Ekla4-00022-00007406-00009199 that operation
WsF-B0Ekla4-00023-00009200-00009574 and you know how she's behaving
WsF-B0Ekla4-00024-00009575-00010878 look this is
WsF-B0Ekla4-00025-00010879-00011099 running smooth
WsF-B0Ekla4-00026-00011100-00011659 now if we do to understand
WsF-B0Ekla4-00027-00011660-00012174 you saw what happened last time
WsF-B0Ekla4-00028-00012175-00012442 you saw what happens that office
WsF-B0Ekla4-00029-00012443-00012808 yep he was academically defeated
WsF-B0Ekla4-00030-00012809-00013116 you understand now
WsF-B0Ekla4-00031-00013118-00013493 they know what to say
WsF-B0Ekla4-00032-00013494-00013805 and what what am I seeing what
WsF-B0Ekla4-00033-00013806-00013944 um
WsF-B0Ekla4-00034-00013945-00015499 when the situation is already happening
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WuOyMYEBVCQ-00000-00000053-00000371 GIC Private Limited formerly known as
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00001-00000372-00000536 government of Singapore Investment
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00002-00000537-00000811 Corporation is a sovereign wealth fund
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00003-00000813-00000980 established by the government of
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00004-00000981-00001283 Singapore in 1981 to manage Singapore's
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00005-00001284-00001568 foreign reserves its mission is to
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00006-00001569-00001787 preserve and enhance the international
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00007-00001788-00002005 purchasing power of the reserves with
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00008-00002007-00002174 the aim to achieve good long-term
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00009-00002175-00002408 returns above global inflation over the
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00010-00002409-00002765 investment time horizon of 20 years with
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00011-00002766-00003041 a network of 10 offices in key financial
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00012-00003042-00003193 capitals around the world
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00013-00003194-00003505 GIC invests internationally in developed
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00014-00003506-00003763 market equities emerging market equities
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00015-00003764-00004063 nominal bonds and cash inflation linked
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00016-00004064-00004345 bonds private equity and real estate the
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00017-00004346-00004634 sovereign wealth fund Institute swf I
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00018-00004635-00005002 had estimated the funds assets at 359
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00019-00005003-00005311 billion dollars in addition to GIC the
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00020-00005312-00005494 government of Singapore owns another
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00021-00005495-00005686 sovereign wealth fund Temasek Holdings
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00022-00005687-00006134 which manages about SGD 275 billion
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00023-00006135-00006709 dollars of assets topic history in 1981
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00024-00006711-00006973 go Kings we then First Deputy Prime
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00025-00006975-00007193 Minister and chairman of the Monetary
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00026-00007194-00007463 Authority of Singapore mas saw the trend
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00027-00007464-00007691 of Singapore's rapidly growing foreign
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00028-00007692-00007873 reserves and decided to invest
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00029-00007875-00008087 Singapore's reserves for the future of
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00030-00008088-00008293 the nation and the welfare of its people
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00031-00008294-00008579 he was advised by a foreign merchant
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00032-00008580-00008831 bank and M Rothschild & Sons and
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00033-00008832-00009104 established the GIC the government then
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00034-00009105-00009302 embarked on a change in investment
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00035-00009303-00009512 policy by investing the bulk of its
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00036-00009513-00009725 foreign reserves in longer-term high
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00037-00009726-00009950 yielding assets rather than in liquid
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00038-00009951-00010199 but low yielding assets an undisclosed
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00039-00010200-00010496 number of those who left the MAS in 1981
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00040-00010497-00010849 went to work for the new GIC in the late
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00041-00010850-00011150 1990s four of its most senior positions
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00042-00011151-00011345 were held by former Monetary Authority
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00043-00011346-00012042 of Singapore officers
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00044-00012043-00012607 topic investments
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00045-00012608-00012934 GIC has the ability to invest across a
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00046-00012935-00013201 full spectrum of financial assets from
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00047-00013202-00013402 sovereign debt to infrastructure and
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00048-00013403-00013660 manages approximately 80% of its
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00049-00013661-00013990 portfolio in-house traditionally GIC has
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00050-00013991-00014244 kept a low profile in its investments
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00051-00014244-00014556 during the subprime mortgage crisis of
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00052-00014557-00014893 2007 to 2010 however a number of its
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00053-00014894-00015201 investments attracted controversy in
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00054-00015202-00015466 2013 according to the sovereign wealth
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00055-00015466-00015744 fund Institute the GIC was one of the
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00056-00015746-00016044 most active SWF investors for the year
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00057-00016046-00016344 in 2006 at the height of the u.s. real
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00058-00016346-00016540 estate bubble it made a two hundred
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00059-00016541-00016792 million dollars investment in the equity
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00060-00016793-00017074 of Stuyvesant Town Peter Cooper Village
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00061-00017075-00017296 the largest apartment complex in
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00062-00017297-00017677 Manhattan as well as 575 million dollars
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00063-00017678-00017998 in secondary loans the management of the
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00064-00017999-00018271 complex Tishman Speyer properties and
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00065-00018272-00018508 Blackrock Realty defaulted on their loan
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00066-00018509-00018763 in 2010 effectively wiping out the
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00067-00018764-00019081 investment in late 2007 during the first
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00068-00019082-00019396 phase of the crisis GIC invested eleven
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00069-00019397-00019681 billion dollars Swiss francs for a 7.9
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00070-00019682-00020065 percent stake in the Swiss bank UBS the
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00071-00020066-00020341 loans were converted into equity in 2010
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00072-00020342-00020653 with an estimated 70% loss of value
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00073-00020654-00020932 though partially offset by a 9% fixed
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00074-00020933-00021280 coupon GIC had acknowledged that the
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00075-00021281-00021447 timing for the investment could have
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00076-00021448-00021730 been better it also stated that other
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00077-00021731-00021943 investments made at that time have had
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00078-00021944-00022174 positive returns which offset the losses
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00079-00022175-00022606 on UBS gie sees total portfolio has
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00080-00022607-00022837 fully recovered to its value prior to
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00081-00022838-00023194 the global financial crisis in 2008 GIC
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00082-00023195-00023446 invested six point eight eight billion
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00083-00023447-00023650 dollars for a nine percent stake in
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00084-00023651-00024076 Citigroup in 2009 it paired its stake to
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00085-00024077-00024421 less than 5% realizing a 1.6 billion
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00086-00024422-00024669 dollars profit with another one point
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00087-00024670-00024931 six billion dollars paper profit on its
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00088-00024932-00025150 remaining holding on the 30th of July
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00089-00025151-00025269 2013
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00090-00025270-00025579 Singapore's GIC was part of a consortium
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00091-00025580-00025852 to acquire transport at infrastructures
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00092-00025852-00025944 gas Fran
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00093-00025945-00026293 tig F which is totals gas transportation
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00094-00026294-00026482 and storage business for an enterprise
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00095-00026483-00026827 value of 2.4 billion euros three point
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00096-00026827-00027160 two five billion dollars the consortium
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00097-00027161-00027558 includes s and AM 45% an Italian gas
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00098-00027559-00027757 storage and transport operator
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00099-00027758-00028198 Singapore's GIC 35 percent and EDF 20
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00100-00028199-00028633 percent as of 2017 GIC holds around 34
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00101-00028633-00028902 percent of its portfolio in the u.s. 3
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00102-00028903-00029187 percent in Latin America 6 percent in
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00103-00029188-00029439 the rest of America's 6 percent in the
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00104-00029441-00029664 United Kingdom 12 percent in the
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00105-00029666-00029902 eurozone 6 percent in the Middle East
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00106-00029902-00030211 Africa and the rest of Europe 19 percent
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00107-00030212-00030495 in Asia excluding Japan 12 percent in
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00108-00030497-00030770 Japan and 2 percent in Australasia in
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00109-00030772-00031087 2017 it was reported that GIC would
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00110-00031088-00031312 purchase a 10% stake in British
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00111-00031313-00031543 specialist bank oak north for 90 million
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00112-00031544-00032122 pounds
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00113-00032123-00032670 topic performance
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00114-00032670-00033065 in 2008 GIC published for the first time
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00115-00033066-00033296 a report containing information on its
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00116-00033297-00033561 20-year returns and more information on
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00117-00033562-00033743 how it is managed and governed and how
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00118-00033744-00034099 it invests Singapore's foreign reserves
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00119-00034100-00034380 GIC does not disclose the amount of
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00120-00034381-00034626 funds it manages and its annual profit
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00121-00034627-00034926 and loss revealing the exact amount
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00122-00034927-00035109 would expose the full size of
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00123-00035110-00035346 Singapore's financial reserves and make
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00124-00035347-00035577 it easier for speculators to attack the
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00125-00035578-00035777 Singapore dollar during periods of
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00126-00035778-00036002 vulnerability since 2011
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00127-00036003-00036296 GIC had also published the five-year and
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00128-00036297-00036510 10-year nominal rates of return to
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00129-00036511-00036649 provide a sense of the ongoing
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00130-00036650-00036927 medium-term investment performance even
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00131-00036928-00037164 while GIC maintains its sights on the
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00132-00037165-00037462 long term it included two composite
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00133-00037463-00037764 portfolios and volatility statistics to
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00134-00037765-00038010 reflect the level of portfolio risk and
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00135-00038011-00038187 to offer perspective in reading the
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00136-00038188-00038517 five-year and ten-year figures for the
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00137-00038518-00038856 year ended the 31st of March 2017 its
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00138-00038857-00039077 annualized 20-year real rate of return
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00139-00039078-00039576 was 3.7 percent in USD nominal terms
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00140-00039577-00039960 GIC achieved an annualized return of 5.1
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00141-00039961-00040377 percent 4.3 percent and 5.7 percent for
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00142-00040378-00040602 the five-year ten-year and 20-year time
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00143-00040603-00041067 periods respectively topic governance
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00144-00041068-00041304 and risk management the funds managed by
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00145-00041305-00041520 GIC are owned by the Singapore
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00146-00041521-00041793 government its investment returns
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00147-00041794-00042027 supplement the country's annual budget
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00148-00042028-00042351 in areas such as education R&D health
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00149-00042352-00042608 care and physical environment as a fifth
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00150-00042609-00042810 schedule company under the Singapore
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00151-00042811-00043095 Constitution GIC is accountable in
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00152-00043096-00043320 various key areas to the president of
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00153-00043321-00043506 Singapore who has empowered under the
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00154-00043507-00043743 Constitution to obtain information to
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00155-00043744-00043935 enable him to safeguard the country's
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00156-00043936-00044223 reserves the Auditor General who is
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00157-00044224-00044412 appointed by the president of Singapore
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00158-00044413-00044646 submits an annual report to the
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00159-00044647-00044862 President and Parliament on his audit of
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00160-00044863-00045077 the government and other bodies managing
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00161-00045078-00045377 public funds GIC manages risk by
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00162-00045378-00045545 investing in a well diversified
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00163-00045546-00045764 portfolio with a balanced distribution
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00164-00045765-00046008 of asset classes and there
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00165-00046009-00046237 lying business sectors and geographies
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00166-00046238-00046635 this too is ygi sees performance has to
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00167-00046636-00046821 be measured on the basis of its overall
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00168-00046822-00047055 portfolio rather than by how much it
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00169-00047056-00047229 makes or losses on individual
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00170-00047230-00047511 investments its approach to risk
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00171-00047512-00047762 management has three distinct components
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00172-00047763-00048057 portfolio risk process risk and people
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00173-00048058-00048228 risk as a board member of the
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00174-00048229-00048450 International Forum of sovereign wealth
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00175-00048451-00048702 funds the successor of the International
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00176-00048703-00048990 working group of SWFs that developed the
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00177-00048991-00049386 Santiago principles in October 2008 GIC
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00178-00049387-00049632 publishes how it adopts and implements
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00179-00049633-00049839 the voluntary set of principles and
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00180-00049840-00050423 practices
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00181-00050424-00051064 topic new investment framework
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00182-00051065-00051357 GIC implemented a new investment
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00183-00051358-00051598 framework in 2013 to give it more
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00184-00051599-00051913 flexibility to focus on investments that
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00185-00051914-00052152 may be riskier in the short term but
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00186-00052153-00052422 would generate returns in the long term
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00187-00052423-00052729 the new framework defines more clearly
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00188-00052729-00053020 GICs risk and return drivers its
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00189-00053021-00053255 long-term investment objectives and the
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00190-00053257-00053515 responsibilities of the GIC board and
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00191-00053516-00053719 management the new approach sees its
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00192-00053720-00054051 portfolio structured under three drivers
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00193-00054052-00054405 firstly a reference portfolio as 65%
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00194-00054407-00054697 made up of global equities and 35
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00195-00054698-00054930 percent of global bonds representing
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00196-00054932-00055264 global markets it characterizes the risk
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00197-00055265-00055516 that the government is prepared for GIC
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00198-00055516-00055711 to take in its long term investment
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00199-00055712-00056082 strategies next the policy portfolio is
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00200-00056083-00056314 made up of six core asset classes and
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00201-00056315-00056560 aims to achieve superior returns over
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00202-00056561-00056788 the long horizon and as the main driver
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00203-00056789-00057126 of long-term returns last is the active
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00204-00057127-00057361 portfolio which seeks to outperform the
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00205-00057362-00057613 policy portfolio is of skill based
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00206-00057614-00057934 strategies adopted by GICs management
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00207-00057935-00058213 within risk limits the skill based
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00208-00058214-00058465 strategies includes choosing investment
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00209-00058466-00058651 opportunities within each asset class
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00210-00058652-00058912 and investing in asset classes not
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00211-00058913-00059119 contained in the simplified policy
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00212-00059120-00059304 portfolio and cross-asset class
WuOyMYEBVCQ-00213-00059305-00059604 strategies
WvZijho04Hc-00000-00000313-00000654 [Music]
WvZijho04Hc-00001-00000655-00000925 tick bite induced meat allergies are
WvZijho04Hc-00002-00000926-00001117 really unlike any other food allergy we
WvZijho04Hc-00003-00001118-00001348 know the most interesting feature of the
WvZijho04Hc-00004-00001349-00001558 reaction may be the first symptom can
WvZijho04Hc-00005-00001559-00001827 occur hours after eating meat normally
WvZijho04Hc-00006-00001828-00001977 have an allergic reaction to a bee sting
WvZijho04Hc-00007-00001978-00002109 or something it happens within minutes
WvZijho04Hc-00008-00002110-00002362 but with this you could eat a piece of
WvZijho04Hc-00009-00002363-00002514 bacon for breakfast your throat doesn't
WvZijho04Hc-00010-00002515-00002646 start closing off until the afternoon
WvZijho04Hc-00011-00002647-00002922 and so you blame lunch or doctors just
WvZijho04Hc-00012-00002923-00003072 call it spontaneous or idiopathic
WvZijho04Hc-00013-00003073-00003390 countif LAX's idiopathic is just doctor
WvZijho04Hc-00014-00003392-00003559 speak for we have no idea what the
WvZijho04Hc-00015-00003560-00003832 causes the delay is because the
WvZijho04Hc-00016-00003833-00004036 alpha-gal is thought to be absorbed
WvZijho04Hc-00017-00004036-00004252 along with the fat in the meat given
WvZijho04Hc-00018-00004253-00004429 that the allergic reaction occurs four
WvZijho04Hc-00019-00004430-00004579 to five hours after meat ingestion
WvZijho04Hc-00020-00004580-00004813 correspond to the peak absorption time
WvZijho04Hc-00021-00004814-00005092 of the fat from the digestive tract what
WvZijho04Hc-00022-00005093-00005221 makes it even more difficult to
WvZijho04Hc-00023-00005222-00005392 diagnosis that the majority of victims
WvZijho04Hc-00024-00005393-00005644 experience only occasional overt
WvZijho04Hc-00025-00005645-00005824 reactions despite regular meat
WvZijho04Hc-00026-00005825-00006112 consumption fattier meats like pork
WvZijho04Hc-00027-00006113-00006286 rinds may provoke episodes more
WvZijho04Hc-00028-00006287-00006468 consistently and severely but still it's
WvZijho04Hc-00029-00006469-00006735 not like it happens every time and it's
WvZijho04Hc-00030-00006736-00006952 on the rise ten years ago we didn't even
WvZijho04Hc-00031-00006953-00007180 know the thing existed but now in tick
WvZijho04Hc-00032-00007181-00007416 written States as many as 20% of the
WvZijho04Hc-00033-00007417-00007659 population have these anti meat allergic
WvZijho04Hc-00034-00007660-00007839 antibodies and more and more people are
WvZijho04Hc-00035-00007840-00008073 coming in affected so probably no more
WvZijho04Hc-00036-00008074-00008316 than 10% to test positive go on to
WvZijho04Hc-00037-00008317-00008517 experience hives or serious allergic
WvZijho04Hc-00038-00008518-00008835 reactions to meat we're also seeing more
WvZijho04Hc-00039-00008836-00009151 and more in kids researchers in Virginia
WvZijho04Hc-00040-00009152-00009366 finding it not uncommon ly though
WvZijho04Hc-00041-00009367-00009634 identification in these cases may not be
WvZijho04Hc-00042-00009635-00009867 straightforward unlike an adults who
WvZijho04Hc-00043-00009868-00010044 frequently present with systemic
WvZijho04Hc-00044-00010045-00010302 reactions the majority of children with
WvZijho04Hc-00045-00010303-00010462 the syndrome present with just skin
WvZijho04Hc-00046-00010463-00010752 manifestations such as hives doesn't
WvZijho04Hc-00047-00010753-00010969 mean it's not serious in fact nearly
WvZijho04Hc-00048-00010970-00011176 half the kids end up in the ER and about
WvZijho04Hc-00049-00011177-00011517 1 in 12 needed to be hospitalized up to
WvZijho04Hc-00050-00011518-00011706 a quarter of the population breaks out
WvZijho04Hc-00051-00011707-00011883 in hives at some important point in
WvZijho04Hc-00052-00011884-00012096 their lives but some children can be
WvZijho04Hc-00053-00012097-00012351 affected for weeks or months and it can
WvZijho04Hc-00054-00012352-00012541 be triggered by infections foods drugs
WvZijho04Hc-00055-00012542-00012766 parasites autoimmune but in a large
WvZijho04Hc-00056-00012767-00012996 subset of cases we don't know what the
WvZijho04Hc-00057-00012997-00013228 trigger is and so we call it chronic
WvZijho04Hc-00058-00013229-00013362 idiopathic
WvZijho04Hc-00059-00013363-00013661 or to Karia it's a common thing
WvZijho04Hc-00060-00013662-00013922 pediatrician see and the only cure is
WvZijho04Hc-00061-00013924-00014151 avoiding and eliminating whatever is
WvZijho04Hc-00062-00014152-00014369 triggering it but in three courses the
WvZijho04Hc-00063-00014371-00014715 cases we have no clue but now we know
WvZijho04Hc-00064-00014716-00014904 that many children who've been diagnosed
WvZijho04Hc-00065-00014905-00015084 with mysterious hives or allergic
WvZijho04Hc-00066-00015085-00015309 reactions and may have been specifically
WvZijho04Hc-00067-00015310-00015486 told that the reactions were not a
WvZijho04Hc-00068-00015487-00015687 result of food allergy they've actually
WvZijho04Hc-00069-00015688-00015933 been suffering from anti gamut allergies
WvZijho04Hc-00070-00015934-00016146 given the serious nature of the
WvZijho04Hc-00071-00016147-00016319 reactions and the rising frequency
WvZijho04Hc-00072-00016321-00016527 allergic swelling and hives across all
WvZijho04Hc-00073-00016528-00016728 age groups this underscores the
WvZijho04Hc-00074-00016729-00016878 importance of identifying what's going
WvZijho04Hc-00075-00016879-00017037 on and clearly physicians should keep
WvZijho04Hc-00076-00017038-00017345 this new diagnosis in mind
WvZijho04Hc-00077-00017346-00017622 allergies to meat might be more common
WvZijho04Hc-00078-00017623-00017856 than previously thought two percent
WvZijho04Hc-00079-00017857-00018120 would mean millions of people but just
WvZijho04Hc-00080-00018121-00018321 to put it in context Americans are much
WvZijho04Hc-00081-00018322-00018453 more likely to suffer an anaphylactic
WvZijho04Hc-00082-00018454-00018774 reaction due to seafood tick bite or not
WvZijho04Hc-00083-00018775-00018999 no matter where they live a national
WvZijho04Hc-00084-00019000-00019125 survey of emergency rooms found
WvZijho04Hc-00085-00019126-00019356 shellfish was by far the most frequently
WvZijho04Hc-00086-00019357-00019587 implicated food and unlike many other
WvZijho04Hc-00087-00019588-00019809 allergies kids don't tend to outgrow
WvZijho04Hc-00088-00019810-00020109 fish and shellfish allergies and many
WvZijho04Hc-00089-00020110-00020331 fish allergens allergies are actually
WvZijho04Hc-00090-00020332-00020610 allergies not to the fish but to worms
WvZijho04Hc-00091-00020611-00020919 within the fish like Anisakis exposure
WvZijho04Hc-00092-00020920-00021114 to these parasites living or dead in
WvZijho04Hc-00093-00021115-00021390 fish is a widespread problem in fact you
WvZijho04Hc-00094-00021391-00021582 can even have an allergic reaction to
WvZijho04Hc-00095-00021583-00021810 the parasitic fish worm eating chickens
WvZijho04Hc-00096-00021811-00022089 that were fed on fish meal this is one
WvZijho04Hc-00097-00022090-00022224 of the ways someone who's allergic to
WvZijho04Hc-00098-00022225-00022515 fish could get triggered by just eating
WvZijho04Hc-00099-00022516-00022970 chicken reminds me of pork cat syndrome
WvZijho04Hc-00100-00022971-00023175 where your mouths can get all itchy
WvZijho04Hc-00101-00023176-00023418 eating bacon in people with cat
WvZijho04Hc-00102-00023419-00023655 allergies because an allergic cross
WvZijho04Hc-00103-00023656-00023916 reaction between cat skin and pig blood
WvZijho04Hc-00104-00023917-00024258 proteins Anisakis worms are found
WvZijho04Hc-00105-00024259-00024483 particularly in cod anchovies and squid
WvZijho04Hc-00106-00024484-00024738 and can also cause chronic hives and
WvZijho04Hc-00107-00024739-00025119 intractable chronic itching because of
WvZijho04Hc-00108-00025120-00025308 these worms researchers recommend that
WvZijho04Hc-00109-00025309-00025563 people stop eating all seafood sushi
WvZijho04Hc-00110-00025564-00025818 altogether because besides inclusing
WvZijho04Hc-00111-00025819-00026067 inducing allergenic reactions the worms
WvZijho04Hc-00112-00026068-00026325 may cause a leaky gut syndrome which
WvZijho04Hc-00113-00026326-00026529 often is unrecognized and can predispose
WvZijho04Hc-00114-00026530-00026666 to other more
WvZijho04Hc-00115-00026667-00026894 Orton pathologies than just being itchy
WvZijho04Hc-00116-00026895-00027611 all over
WvZijho04Hc-00117-00027612-00028573 [Music]
WvZijho04Hc-00118-00028574-00028780 you
WyiXlTb0yF8-00000-00000055-00000298 the 17th congressional district of
WyiXlTb0yF8-00001-00000299-00000463 Illinois is represented by Democrat
WyiXlTb0yF8-00002-00000463-00000801 Cheri Bustos it includes most of the
WyiXlTb0yF8-00003-00000802-00000997 northwestern portion of the state with
WyiXlTb0yF8-00004-00000998-00001179 most of its population living on the
WyiXlTb0yF8-00005-00001180-00001386 Illinois side of the Quad Cities as well
WyiXlTb0yF8-00006-00001387-00001732 as parts of Peoria and Rockford the 17th
WyiXlTb0yF8-00007-00001732-00001909 congressional district has shifted
WyiXlTb0yF8-00008-00001910-00002134 northward after the 2012 redistricting
WyiXlTb0yF8-00009-00002135-00002428 it lost Quincy and Decatur as well as
WyiXlTb0yF8-00010-00002429-00002698 its Sheriff Springfield it was generally
WyiXlTb0yF8-00011-00002699-00002866 thought that the redrawn map would allow
WyiXlTb0yF8-00012-00002867-00003052 the district to revert to the Democrats
WyiXlTb0yF8-00013-00003053-00003226 who held it without interruption from
WyiXlTb0yF8-00014-00003227-00003561 1983 to 2011 as expected
WyiXlTb0yF8-00015-00003562-00003756 one-term Republican incumbent Bobby
WyiXlTb0yF8-00016-00003757-00003954 Schilling was defeated by Democratic
WyiXlTb0yF8-00017-00003955-00004182 opponent Cheri Bustos in the 2012
WyiXlTb0yF8-00018-00004183-00004777 election cycle
WyiXlTb0yF8-00019-00004778-00005390 topic 2011 redistricting
WyiXlTb0yF8-00020-00005391-00005624 the district covers parts of Peoria
WyiXlTb0yF8-00021-00005625-00005861 Tazewell and Winnebago counties and all
WyiXlTb0yF8-00022-00005862-00006128 of Carol Fulton Henderson Henry Jo
WyiXlTb0yF8-00023-00006129-00006353 Daviess Knox Mercer Rock Island
WyiXlTb0yF8-00024-00006354-00006614 Stevenson Warren and Whiteside counties
WyiXlTb0yF8-00025-00006615-00006836 as of the 2011 redistricting which
WyiXlTb0yF8-00026-00006837-00007159 followed the 2010 census all or parts of
WyiXlTb0yF8-00027-00007161-00007420 Canton East Moline Freeport Galesburg
WyiXlTb0yF8-00028-00007422-00007673 Kewanee Moline Peoria Rock Island
WyiXlTb0yF8-00029-00007673-00007922 Rockford Pekin and Sterling are included
WyiXlTb0yF8-00030-00007923-00008183 the representatives for these districts
WyiXlTb0yF8-00031-00008184-00008417 were elected in the 2012 primary and
WyiXlTb0yF8-00032-00008418-00008591 general elections and the boundaries
WyiXlTb0yF8-00033-00008592-00009374 became effective on January 5th 2013
WyiXlTb0yF8-00034-00009375-00009887 topic elections
WyiXlTb0yF8-00035-00009888-00010225 you
WyiXlTb0yF8-00036-00010226-00010775 topic 2012 election
WyiXlTb0yF8-00037-00010776-00011141 you
WyiXlTb0yF8-00038-00011142-00011657 topic history
WyiXlTb0yF8-00039-00011658-00012017 from 2003 to 2013 the district was known
WyiXlTb0yF8-00040-00012018-00012320 as the rabbit on a skateboard for it's
WyiXlTb0yF8-00041-00012321-00012533 unusual shape devised as the outcome of
WyiXlTb0yF8-00042-00012534-00012767 gerrymandering the boundaries were drawn
WyiXlTb0yF8-00043-00012768-00012959 in a bipartisan deal to protect both
WyiXlTb0yF8-00044-00012960-00013169 Democratic incumbent Lane Evans and
WyiXlTb0yF8-00045-00013169-00013418 neighboring Republican incumbents the
WyiXlTb0yF8-00046-00013419-00013591 lines of the district were drawn to move
WyiXlTb0yF8-00047-00013593-00013766 Republican voters into neighboring
WyiXlTb0yF8-00048-00013766-00013952 districts and to include Democratic
WyiXlTb0yF8-00049-00013953-00014654 neighborhoods in Springfield in Decatur
WyiXlTb0yF8-00050-00014655-00014947 topic election results from recent
WyiXlTb0yF8-00051-00014949-00015421 presidential races
WyiXlTb0yF8-00052-00015422-00015788 you
WyiXlTb0yF8-00053-00015788-00016386 topic list of Representatives
WyiXlTb0yF8-00054-00016387-00016752 you
WyiXlTb0yF8-00055-00016753-00017041 topic living former members from the
WyiXlTb0yF8-00056-00017042-00017432 district
WyiXlTb0yF8-00057-00017433-00017744 as of May 2015 two former members of the
WyiXlTb0yF8-00058-00017745-00017942 US House of Representatives from the
WyiXlTb0yF8-00059-00017943-00018056 district are alive
WyiXlTb0yF8-00060-00018057-00018302 the most recent representative to die
WyiXlTb0yF8-00061-00018303-00018689 was Lane Evans 1983 to 2007 on November
WyiXlTb0yF8-00062-00018690-00019307 5th 2014
WyiXlTb0yF8-00063-00019308-00019839 topic C also
WyiXlTb0yF8-00064-00019840-00020180 Illinois's congressional districts list
WyiXlTb0yF8-00065-00020181-00020455 of United States congressional districts
WyiXlTb0yF8-00066-00020456-00020970 gerrymander equals equals modes
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00000-00000008-00000182 hey it's tim here a few days ago reddit
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00001-00000183-00000487 released a data set from its our place
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00002-00000488-00000630 activity that took place at the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00003-00000631-00000790 beginning of the month essentially this
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00004-00000791-00001054 is a community project essentially um
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00005-00001055-00001311 that allows users to edit individual
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00006-00001312-00001599 pixels on a canvas and the whole idea of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00007-00001600-00001814 it is that you can edit any particular
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00008-00001816-00001967 part of the canvas as many times as you
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00009-00001968-00002302 like and in order to get this to work
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00010-00002303-00002463 you have to sort of activate your
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00011-00002464-00002663 community of followers and pretty much
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00012-00002664-00002879 every community on the internet ends up
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00013-00002880-00003110 mobilizing a whole group of people to go
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00014-00003111-00003367 in and edit individual pixels to make
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00015-00003368-00003551 pictures and so what you can see in
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00016-00003552-00003783 front of me here is um it's the sort of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00017-00003784-00003983 tab on the reddit community page but
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00018-00003984-00004215 actually you go to the website and they
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00019-00004216-00004391 have released a data set so if we go
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00020-00004392-00004543 ahead and click on this link you'll see
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00021-00004544-00004783 that you actually get a complete image
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00022-00004784-00005022 if i open this in a new tab you can see
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00023-00005023-00005167 this is the actual image that was
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00024-00005168-00005406 generated the final one before they
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00025-00005407-00005711 essentially reset the canvas and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00026-00005712-00005895 it's kind of interesting because it's
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00027-00005896-00006127 essentially sort of like a real life uh
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00028-00006128-00006343 war that's taking place in the sort of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00029-00006344-00006583 online community and as people in the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00030-00006584-00006814 community mobilize their followers um
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00031-00006815-00007087 you can kind of see this happening um in
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00032-00007088-00007255 real time so if you're sitting on reddit
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00033-00007256-00007383 watching this this is what you would
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00034-00007384-00007591 have seen obviously it's been sped up to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00035-00007592-00007831 kind of give it more more life but
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00036-00007831-00008039 people are individually editing pixels
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00037-00008040-00008239 and as a result of that you've kind of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00038-00008240-00008439 got this sort of real-life living canvas
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00039-00008440-00008655 this year they've released the data set
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00040-00008656-00008871 so what you actually get in the data set
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00041-00008872-00009119 um is essentially the changes that have
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00042-00009120-00009310 been made to each and every pixels over
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00043-00009311-00009527 time and as you can see it expands over
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00044-00009528-00009710 to multiple parts of the canvas and it
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00045-00009711-00009942 keeps on going and sort of you get to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00046-00009943-00010095 this final place and essentially what
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00047-00010096-00010287 happens is at a certain point the only
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00048-00010288-00010495 change you can make is the color white
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00049-00010496-00010719 and so the whole canvas gets taken over
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00050-00010720-00010871 by the color white and essentially
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00051-00010872-00011071 that's a race to find at the very last
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00052-00011072-00011295 uh pixel that hasn't been edited that
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00053-00011296-00011438 actually takes a bit of time there's
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00054-00011439-00011646 some pixels you can't see here because
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00055-00011647-00011895 um i'm on a 4k screen this is a much
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00056-00011896-00012135 bigger than 4k canvas and so it takes a
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00057-00012136-00012278 while for it to actually get to the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00058-00012279-00012431 place where you've edited every pixel
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00059-00012432-00012655 but nonetheless the release of data set
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00060-00012656-00012894 and i downloaded it now
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00061-00012895-00013094 data is quite simple it's essentially
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00062-00013095-00013375 the timestamp a user id the pixel color
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00063-00013376-00013607 and the coordinate and it's a csv file
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00064-00013608-00013751 you can download it and look at it
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00065-00013752-00013879 there's a couple of quirks with it but
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00066-00013880-00014038 we'll get into it as we start to look at
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00067-00014040-00014335 the data so what i thought is hey what
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00068-00014336-00014511 if we could work with this in tableau
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00069-00014512-00014775 how far can the tableau toolset get us
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00070-00014776-00014999 with this data set essentially i'd like
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00071-00015000-00015175 to be able to visualize this in some way
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00072-00015176-00015455 or form even if we can recreate some of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00073-00015456-00015703 that final artwork now
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00074-00015704-00015894 it depends on a couple of things because
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00075-00015895-00016135 this is a huge file just for context if
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00076-00016136-00016358 i go open up my finder here go to the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00077-00016359-00016543 desktop where this file is you can see
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00078-00016544-00016750 that the zipped file that you download
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00079-00016751-00016975 from reddit is 12 gig but when you unzip
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00080-00016976-00017103 it because you need to do that in order
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00081-00017104-00017299 to work with it it's actually
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00082-00017300-00017599 21.71 gigabytes so this is what we're
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00083-00017600-00017767 actually going to be using to start with
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00084-00017768-00017863 and so
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00085-00017864-00018079 what i'm hoping to do is get this into
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00086-00018080-00018263 tableau desktop but i'm going to start
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00087-00018264-00018430 with tablet prep because i know there's
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00088-00018431-00018583 already efficiencies that can be made
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00089-00018584-00018735 with this file set just looking at the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00090-00018736-00018983 file format i know it's a csv it doesn't
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00091-00018984-00019150 make sense to try and use tableau
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00092-00019151-00019430 desktop to optimize this because that's
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00093-00019431-00019575 just going to be a really really slow
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00094-00019576-00019839 thing to do and eventually i'll have to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00095-00019840-00020039 create the extract in tableau anyway in
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00096-00020040-00020207 order to get it to work in a performant
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00097-00020208-00020391 manner so let's use tableau prep to do
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00098-00020392-00020622 that work then we can just open tableau
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00099-00020623-00020767 and start visualizing things straight
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00100-00020768-00021007 away so let's just go ahead and drag
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00101-00021008-00021255 this 21 gig file into prep and see what
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00102-00021256-00021391 it does so
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00103-00021392-00021527 and you can actually see that i actually
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00104-00021528-00021703 brought it into the canvas already let
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00105-00021704-00021871 me get rid of this first one so you can
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00106-00021872-00022094 just i see this main one here and i've
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00107-00022095-00022311 brought it in it's opened it up and we
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00108-00022312-00022486 get to see the data already now
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00109-00022487-00022614 throughout this video i'm just going to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00110-00022615-00022814 sort of work as fast as i can to try and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00111-00022815-00023071 make this video as honest reflection of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00112-00023072-00023255 how it's like to work with these things
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00113-00023256-00023414 but i'll also try and talk about what
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00114-00023415-00023575 i'm doing as i do it so if i talk
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00115-00023576-00023791 quickly apologies ask questions in the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00116-00023792-00023935 comments i'm more than happy to sort of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00117-00023936-00024167 explain it now tablet prep is a fairly
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00118-00024168-00024407 new tool and one of the smart things it
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00119-00024408-00024607 does is it actually samples the data so
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00120-00024608-00024878 when i go to click on this a node here
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00121-00024879-00025014 essentially i'm creating a node to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00122-00025015-00025239 create a data prep step and you'll see
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00123-00025240-00025383 that it actually works really really
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00124-00025384-00025558 quickly and i'm actually able to already
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00125-00025559-00025783 start previewing the file so some of you
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00126-00025783-00025927 might be thinking hey what's going on
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00127-00025927-00026183 here is it reading the entire file well
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00128-00026183-00026327 um for those of you who are keen on want
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00129-00026327-00026455 to know how this is impacting my
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00130-00026456-00026599 computer
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00131-00026600-00026743 up here i can't actually highlight it
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00132-00026744-00026918 because it's off-screen so let me draw
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00133-00026919-00027118 an arrow up here you can see my cpu and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00134-00027119-00027462 memory i've got an m1 max um with 24
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00135-00027463-00027687 cores of gpu not that that does anything
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00136-00027688-00027918 in this instance but the memory is 32
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00137-00027919-00028046 gigabytes so
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00138-00028047-00028214 i'm using up half my memory at the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00139-00028216-00028502 moment just working on this file now
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00140-00028504-00028687 if i look at this um there's a couple of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00141-00028688-00028958 things i've immediately noticed uh this
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00142-00028960-00029246 is all text and text is okay to work
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00143-00029247-00029383 with if you're in excel or something
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00144-00029383-00029495 like that but when you're working with
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00145-00029495-00029735 really large data sets it's not the most
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00146-00029736-00029983 optimal format to have your data in
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00147-00029983-00030158 because it takes quite a lot of time to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00148-00030160-00030455 index and store and work with in general
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00149-00030456-00030670 numbers tend to be a lot faster in fact
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00150-00030672-00030951 most computers have a specific
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00151-00030952-00031127 processing units which are designed to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00152-00031127-00031295 work with numbers and if you have
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00153-00031295-00031551 something like a gpu those are designed
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00154-00031552-00031687 to work with numbers even more just
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00155-00031688-00031814 because of the way they work so if
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00156-00031816-00031958 you're trying to do lots of mathematical
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00157-00031960-00032167 operations sometimes your gpu can
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00158-00032168-00032462 actually step in and help out and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00159-00032463-00032599 in this particular case i don't think
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00160-00032600-00032783 we're doing anything that advanced no
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00161-00032784-00032943 machine learning nothing like that we
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00162-00032944-00033118 just sort of want to clean this data set
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00163-00033119-00033215 so
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00164-00033216-00033374 looking at this there's a couple of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00165-00033375-00033518 things um
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00166-00033519-00033711 the user id field is this huge text
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00167-00033712-00033871 field so that is immediately going to be
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00168-00033872-00034127 something i'm going to target with um id
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00169-00034128-00034311 numbers id numbers are going to be whole
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00170-00034312-00034511 numbers they'll be a smaller subset of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00171-00034512-00034743 numbers because um even if let's say
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00172-00034744-00034918 there's 200 million records in here the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00173-00034919-00035143 number 200 million is going to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00174-00035144-00035359 be easier to store than this whole sort
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00175-00035360-00035599 of large chunk of text essentially and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00176-00035600-00035774 again again numbers are going to be much
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00177-00035775-00036062 much easier to process um the date and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00178-00036063-00036246 time this is a pretty easy one i can i
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00179-00036247-00036423 can solve this right now i can just set
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00180-00036424-00036615 this to date and time tableau will look
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00181-00036616-00036790 at it and pass out the date and it does
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00182-00036791-00036935 this in two steps you'll see that it
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00183-00036936-00037118 first gives me a preview of what it's
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00184-00037119-00037367 going to look like 1970 and then down
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00185-00037368-00037527 here you'll see it's actually changed
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00186-00037528-00037727 the dates uh just over here at the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00187-00037728-00037902 bottom you can see that it's actually
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00188-00037903-00038039 changed them and then eventually the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00189-00038040-00038199 summary will change once it's been able
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00190-00038200-00038495 to process the sample data that it has
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00191-00038496-00038759 it's sampling a million records so you
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00192-00038760-00038911 can see here the four fields a million
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00193-00038912-00039151 records now this doesn't mean that's all
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00194-00039152-00039335 the data i won't really know how many
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00195-00039336-00039518 rows are in this data set until i run it
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00196-00039519-00039743 so we're going to just run this and see
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00197-00039744-00039951 how we get on so
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00198-00039952-00040062 um
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00199-00040063-00040335 now if i start to look at this let's
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00200-00040336-00040518 let's try and just think through this so
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00201-00040519-00040918 we've got date and time and it's at a
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00202-00040919-00041399 second level so we've got one hour 43 25
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00203-00041400-00041518 um
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00204-00041519-00041544 and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00205-00041545-00041695 [Music]
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00206-00041696-00041862 we've got the coordinate which is
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00207-00041863-00042023 essentially an x and a y coordinate
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00208-00042024-00042199 separated by a comma and you've got the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00209-00042200-00042351 pixel color
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00210-00042352-00042583 so what i want to do
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00211-00042584-00042918 is try and get rid of any text based uh
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00212-00042919-00043127 method of storing information in this
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00213-00043128-00043302 got rid of one which was the timestamp
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00214-00043303-00043567 that's been converted to a day and time
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00215-00043568-00043758 we need to do this with user id pixel
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00216-00043759-00044023 color and coordinates so in my mind what
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00217-00044024-00044183 i'm going to do is i'm going to map each
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00218-00044184-00044407 of those things to an id number and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00219-00044408-00044615 essentially we're going to give those a
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00220-00044616-00044887 unique id number for each in unique
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00221-00044888-00045062 record and once i've done that i'm going
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00222-00045063-00045311 to bring that back into the data set
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00223-00045312-00045455 so that there's a reference then i'm
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00224-00045456-00045590 going to get rid of the text based
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00225-00045591-00045718 fields and that would just leave us with
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00226-00045719-00045871 the numerical base fields which should
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00227-00045872-00046127 be a lot easier to store essentially
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00228-00046128-00046327 will help me reduce the size of the file
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00229-00046328-00046511 which means tableau should be more
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00230-00046512-00046655 performant and should be able to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00231-00046656-00046862 aggregate things much much quicker
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00232-00046863-00047127 so let's start with uh the aggregate
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00233-00047128-00047358 step so essentially what i'm doing here
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00234-00047359-00047567 is i'm using the aggregate step to just
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00235-00047568-00047774 find me a unique
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00236-00047775-00047974 value so we'll just bring the coordinate
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00237-00047975-00048167 in here so we'll see
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00238-00048168-00048462 for now there's 493 unique items and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00239-00048463-00048727 then now that we've grouped that up um
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00240-00048728-00048999 we can then just go ahead and rank these
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00241-00049000-00049207 ranking is again my sort of de facto way
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00242-00049208-00049439 of just giving them an id number for now
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00243-00049440-00049599 without having to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00244-00049600-00049846 uh do much to them i could use row
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00245-00049847-00049983 number or something like that as a
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00246-00049984-00050279 function but rank is is fine um because
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00247-00050280-00050511 um because these are unique
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00248-00050512-00050727 we shouldn't have any sort of any sort
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00249-00050728-00050951 of dense ranking where it counts the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00250-00050952-00051135 same id twice or anything like that it
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00251-00051136-00051326 should just be a straight count
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00252-00051327-00051775 so let's call this um let's call this uh
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00253-00051776-00051894 chord
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00254-00051895-00052102 id
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00255-00052103-00052335 i'll use capitals for this and just hit
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00256-00052336-00052566 enter hit done we need to keep the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00257-00052567-00052750 original coordinate in the data set so
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00258-00052751-00052991 we'll keep that uh i'll go and hit the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00259-00052991-00053238 plus sign for this and then uh we'll
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00260-00053239-00053438 call this um
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00261-00053439-00053687 chord uh we'll call this
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00262-00053688-00053903 uh pixel
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00263-00053904-00054015 because this is where i'm going to go
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00264-00054016-00054191 and aggregate the pixel color i think
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00265-00054191-00054415 there's only a 30 something yeah there's
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00266-00054416-00054726 only 32 colors being used so that's a
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00267-00054727-00054894 pretty straightforward thing to add in
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00268-00054895-00054975 here
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00269-00054976-00055126 we'll do exactly the same we'll go and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00270-00055127-00055311 rank these and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00271-00055312-00055503 we'll go and call this
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00272-00055504-00055654 um
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00273-00055655-00055766 pixel
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00274-00055767-00055894 id
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00275-00055895-00056023 number
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00276-00056024-00056359 and hit enter cool so i'm capitalizing
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00277-00056360-00056582 this so i can easily identify them later
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00278-00056583-00056903 in the step and then the last one is
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00279-00056904-00057126 we are going to aggregate we've done
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00280-00057127-00057366 chord and we've done pixel user id user
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00281-00057367-00057559 id is just a hash user id we can't link
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00282-00057560-00057735 this back to real users
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00283-00057736-00057999 so let's go ahead and drag this in to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00284-00058000-00058150 group it up we don't need to aggregate
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00285-00058151-00058279 by anything
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00286-00058279-00058535 and then we'll go ahead add a clean step
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00287-00058536-00058759 to this and we'll go ahead and rank
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00288-00058760-00059071 these to get our id number we'll rank
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00289-00059072-00059287 that nice and easy and whilst it's
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00290-00059288-00059638 thinking about it i'll call this um
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00291-00059639-00060054 user id number
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00292-00060055-00060223 cool so we've got the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00293-00060224-00060342 um
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00294-00060344-00060566 three bits of information
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00295-00060567-00060719 we'll hit done
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00296-00060720-00060903 and and now we need to bring them
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00297-00060904-00061006 together
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00298-00061007-00061150 and the way i'm gonna do this is
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00299-00061151-00061319 actually just to rearrange my flow a
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00300-00061320-00061463 little bit here
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00301-00061464-00061671 add another step here just to make it a
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00302-00061672-00061911 little bit sort of neater so essentially
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00303-00061912-00062119 what i've done is i've broken off three
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00304-00062120-00062415 strands of my um flow
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00305-00062416-00062694 and uh i should really name this one bot
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00306-00062695-00062919 one two what was this um
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00307-00062920-00063071 what would this user
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00308-00063072-00063287 okay so i know which is which and now i
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00309-00063288-00063471 can actually just bring each of these
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00310-00063472-00063606 back together to the main data set
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00311-00063607-00063854 there's no sort of multi-join as
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00312-00063855-00064071 something like alteryx has so i can drag
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00313-00064072-00064159 this
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00314-00064160-00064399 to the join and it will automatically
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00315-00064400-00064679 map a user id to use id the join is
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00316-00064679-00064838 correct it's doing an inner join but it
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00317-00064839-00065023 should be an exact match so you could do
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00318-00065024-00065166 a left joinery in a join it would be the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00319-00065167-00065287 same result
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00320-00065288-00065550 and keep going in here
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00321-00065551-00065719 i'm not even going to look at these
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00322-00065720-00065911 until the very final step essentially
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00323-00065912-00066094 i'm just bringing everything back
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00324-00066095-00066231 together again it doesn't really matter
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00325-00066232-00066406 which order i do it in but this this
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00326-00066407-00066631 sort of looks more visually appealing
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00327-00066632-00066838 and if i go to the final clean step we
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00328-00066839-00067023 should have all our data so everything
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00329-00067024-00067199 in capitals has been added up to the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00330-00067200-00067415 timestamp and everything after should
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00331-00067416-00067671 either be a duplicate record or some of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00332-00067672-00067855 the information that
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00333-00067856-00068079 i don't need and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00334-00068080-00068399 what we should see
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00335-00068400-00068606 is roughly the same number of records so
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00336-00068607-00068967 if i go to the coordinate id so 493
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00337-00068968-00069191 and if i go to the coordinates
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00338-00069192-00069406 493 so i'm getting the same number of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00339-00069407-00069638 records in this sample so that means
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00340-00069639-00070047 i've not caused any duplication 492 656
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00341-00070048-00070159 values
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00342-00070160-00070350 i should get the same same number here
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00343-00070351-00070559 yes exactly so there's no duplication at
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00344-00070560-00070759 any point which is good
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00345-00070760-00071047 and now um yeah now we can actually
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00346-00071048-00071199 start to do some cleansing so in order
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00347-00071200-00071326 to do this in order to get rid of these
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00348-00071327-00071479 columns i'm actually going to switch to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00349-00071480-00071726 not this table view here but this list
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00350-00071727-00071903 view and this list view tells me all the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00351-00071904-00072175 fields in my data set so i can now just
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00352-00072176-00072367 actually start dumping pretty much
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00353-00072368-00072511 everything but
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00354-00072512-00072743 the coordinates because i still need to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00355-00072744-00072950 work on the coordinates so
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00356-00072951-00073103 that's what we'll leave and then we'll
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00357-00073104-00073415 switch back to this summary view
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00358-00073416-00073599 and now that we've got this i need to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00359-00073600-00073711 split these coordinates because
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00360-00073712-00073903 essentially it's an x and a y so let's
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00361-00073904-00074206 go ahead and do that let's go ahead and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00362-00074207-00074479 do a custom split
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00363-00074480-00074631 actually not a custom split just do
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00364-00074632-00074767 automatic split i don't know why i'm
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00365-00074768-00074975 thinking about it because it's a comma
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00366-00074976-00075247 so tablet will handle it pretty well
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00367-00075248-00075406 and we'll call this
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00368-00075407-00075759 chord x
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00369-00075760-00075935 and we'll call this
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00370-00075936-00076311 chord y
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00371-00076312-00076591 and now we have gotten red now if we
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00372-00076592-00076735 remove this last coordinate by just
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00373-00076736-00076903 going to those three dots it's actually
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00374-00076904-00077071 behind my face here if i move this to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00375-00077072-00077262 the left there's remove let's just
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00376-00077263-00077503 remove that put this back and yeah we've
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00377-00077504-00077823 got rid of every numeric field so
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00378-00077824-00078006 in a pretty short amount of time we've
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00379-00078007-00078231 actually built a pretty nice data set
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00380-00078232-00078455 now so we've got if i just look at the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00381-00078456-00078719 summary view we've got all numerical
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00382-00078720-00078879 fields um
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00383-00078880-00079103 a pretty good set i feel i've done some
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00384-00079104-00079311 typos here so
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00385-00079312-00079519 what what should we call this so this
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00386-00079520-00079806 coordinate id uh where we were doing it
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00387-00079807-00080150 here i clearly named it incorrectly so
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00388-00080151-00080319 let me just edit this and what you can
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00389-00080320-00080543 do is you can sometimes go back and just
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00390-00080544-00080750 edit the step where you made the change
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00391-00080751-00080838 this
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00392-00080839-00080982 is a better thing to do because if you
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00393-00080983-00081135 just go and rename it later down the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00394-00081136-00081319 line when someone comes in corrects the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00395-00081320-00081575 typo it breaks the flow in the future
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00396-00081576-00081711 you don't want to do that you'll fall
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00397-00081712-00081879 into that mistake as well you'll open it
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00398-00081880-00082071 on maybe three weeks time you completely
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00399-00082072-00082279 forget you made a hash of it change it
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00400-00082280-00082423 break it and then you'll spend ages
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00401-00082424-00082591 figuring out why doesn't work when it's
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00402-00082592-00082894 only a typo so now that everything is
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00403-00082895-00083175 correct we're pretty much good to go so
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00404-00083176-00083415 now when i look at this data set let's
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00405-00083416-00083567 just let's just look at this in this
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00406-00083568-00083799 view here um this is an interesting data
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00407-00083800-00084031 set because
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00408-00084032-00084255 this is like a data set that tracks
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00409-00084256-00084471 changes it's not a data that shows me
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00410-00084472-00084743 the picture in any moment in time so
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00411-00084744-00084991 the way the canvas works is it starts
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00412-00084992-00085150 white and then
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00413-00085151-00085391 it slowly basically changes because
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00414-00085392-00085535 people are coming in and making changes
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00415-00085536-00085815 and what data set they've shared with us
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00416-00085816-00086038 is the changes so imagine i give you a
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00417-00086039-00086359 word doc but you start with a blank word
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00418-00086360-00086559 doc and then i give you a list of all
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00419-00086560-00086791 the changes that have been made and it's
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00420-00086792-00086967 up to you to figure out what the final
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00421-00086968-00087111 word doc looks like that's essentially
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00422-00087112-00087271 what's going on here we've got the list
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00423-00087272-00087438 of changes and we've got a assumed
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00424-00087439-00087671 starting point and this data set tells
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00425-00087672-00087823 us how to get to the sort of final
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00426-00087824-00087991 picture or the picture any moment in
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00427-00087992-00088087 time
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00428-00088088-00088318 now if i was to try and create a data to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00429-00088319-00088511 do this in tableau it's slightly
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00430-00088512-00088750 difficult because
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00431-00088751-00088935 in essence
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00432-00088936-00089031 i
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00433-00089032-00089391 started trying to think to do this
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00434-00089392-00089550 in essence i'd need some sort of batch
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00435-00089551-00089750 operation in order to set this up
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00436-00089751-00089879 because
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00437-00089880-00090087 if i wanted to visualize this in tableau
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00438-00090088-00090247 if i just think about this mentally i
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00439-00090248-00090431 always close my eyes when i do this but
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00440-00090432-00090799 i have to um get the get get the data
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00441-00090800-00091023 and create a time scaffold that starts
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00442-00091024-00091182 from the beginning to the end of the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00443-00091183-00091350 sequence of activity
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00444-00091351-00091582 and then having done that i need to go
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00445-00091583-00091782 and get for each
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00446-00091783-00091959 second hour or a minute whatever level
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00447-00091960-00092143 of detail i want to work out
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00448-00092144-00092318 i need to go and get the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00449-00092319-00092423 um
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00450-00092424-00092831 the last change or
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00451-00092832-00092967 well i need to go and get the last
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00452-00092968-00093174 relevant change for that unit of time so
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00453-00093175-00093326 if i'm looking at it at a minute level i
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00454-00093327-00093518 need to go and get all the changes and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00455-00093519-00093703 look and see what the last change was
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00456-00093704-00093903 for that particular minute
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00457-00093904-00094111 and then i'll have a picture of what
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00458-00094112-00094287 that should be at that moment in time
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00459-00094288-00094494 and that's what my data should look like
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00460-00094495-00094718 for all the coordinates now
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00461-00094719-00094862 i'm looking at the coordinates and the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00462-00094863-00094991 coordinates are a bit strange here
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00463-00094992-00095167 because i don't think we're getting the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00464-00095168-00095282 full set of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00465-00095283-00095767 coordinates and now if i go to reddit
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00466-00095768-00096055 you can actually download an image
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00467-00096056-00096279 this is the image and this is a
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00468-00096280-00096423 true scale
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00469-00096424-00096574 and if i
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00470-00096575-00096799 save the image
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00471-00096800-00096894 to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00472-00096895-00096991 my
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00473-00096992-00097231 media folder
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00474-00097232-00097391 you can save it at a text but i'm not
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00475-00097392-00097550 going to do that because then that will
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00476-00097551-00097767 give me
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00477-00097768-00097918 um
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00478-00097919-00098174 the wrong size in pixels so this is the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00479-00098175-00098374 this is the one i'm looking at if i get
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00480-00098375-00098606 the information
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00481-00098607-00098991 it is where is the pixel size 2000 by
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00482-00098992-00099159 2000 so
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00483-00099160-00099431 that is if i get my phone let's do the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00484-00099432-00099774 maps uh
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00485-00099775-00100118 2000 by 2000
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00486-00100119-00100399 it's four million coordinate points
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00487-00100400-00100638 so that's already quite a lot of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00488-00100639-00100735 um
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00489-00100736-00100967 pixels to sort of that's four megapixels
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00490-00100968-00101143 essentially to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00491-00101144-00101318 to manage um
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00492-00101319-00101423 so
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00493-00101424-00101638 that's a lot of coordinates to think
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00494-00101639-00101791 about now if you're going to create that
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00495-00101792-00101935 data in
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00496-00101936-00102150 in any tool like the easiest way to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00497-00102151-00102311 manage that as a human being would be to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00498-00102312-00102534 have uh
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00499-00102535-00102799 all the coordinates going from left to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00500-00102800-00102966 right and then the time going from top
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00501-00102967-00103110 to bottom and then you basically for
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00502-00103111-00103327 each time slot you just have the color
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00503-00103328-00103502 in every coordinate that's not an
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00504-00103503-00103671 efficient way to store this data set
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00505-00103672-00103951 because you then have four million
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00506-00103952-00104175 width table that is not sort of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00507-00104176-00104406 reasonable so what you can do instead is
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00508-00104407-00104639 you can pivot those um dates to a
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00509-00104640-00104847 vertical format so for each time slot
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00510-00104848-00105054 you have a vertical list of coordinates
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00511-00105055-00105375 and the associated uh pixels essentially
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00512-00105376-00105639 so if i go back to tableau prep here i'm
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00513-00105640-00105839 i'm talking to thinnet here i'll go back
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00514-00105840-00106015 to tablet prep essentially have it
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00515-00106016-00106247 vertically see there's a lot of sorting
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00516-00106248-00106390 and there's a lot of sort of process
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00517-00106391-00106615 going on but it gets more complex
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00518-00106616-00106783 because of course
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00519-00106783-00106975 we have to make the assumption that it's
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00520-00106976-00107143 quite possible for
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00521-00107144-00107407 um let's say thousands of people to edit
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00522-00107408-00107623 a pixel at the same time
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00523-00107624-00107719 because
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00524-00107720-00107902 i mean these are computers so it is
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00525-00107903-00108102 quite easy for let's say 10 people to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00526-00108103-00108286 try and edit the same pixel at the same
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00527-00108288-00108366 time
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00528-00108367-00108615 and if it's tracking when those you know
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00529-00108616-00108790 pixels are coming in
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00530-00108791-00108878 then
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00531-00108879-00108983 and if it's tracking it to the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00532-00108983-00109151 millisecond it's quite easy you could
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00533-00109152-00109399 get thousands of edits within one second
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00534-00109400-00109654 that's how milliseconds work so
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00535-00109655-00109886 what i have to also then do is go and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00536-00109888-00110086 see all the changes within any
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00537-00110088-00110231 particular time period that i'm
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00538-00110232-00110471 aggregating to and get the last change
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00539-00110472-00110678 so i need some level of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00540-00110679-00111047 sorting inside of each time unit inside
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00541-00111048-00111231 of each coordinate essentially to try
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00542-00111232-00111399 and get the final picture for that
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00543-00111400-00111566 particular time unit
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00544-00111567-00111878 it's quite complex um i'm thinking
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00545-00111879-00112023 there's probably a couple ways i'll do
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00546-00112024-00112166 this in prep
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00547-00112167-00112390 but i'm just thinking about it and i
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00548-00112391-00112647 think i think for what i want to do
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00549-00112648-00112823 in this video at least for let's call
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00550-00112824-00112999 this phase one the more i think of it
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00551-00113000-00113199 the more i think this requires a little
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00552-00113200-00113351 bit more sort of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00553-00113352-00113502 thought
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00554-00113503-00113710 i need to approach this in a in a very
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00555-00113711-00113902 sort of efficient way and i need to go
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00556-00113903-00114063 and test this in tableau to make sure
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00557-00114064-00114215 that i'm at least on the right lines and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00558-00114216-00114366 what i've got here is actually going to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00559-00114367-00114454 work
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00560-00114455-00114686 so i'm going to leave this here and i'm
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00561-00114688-00115063 going to export this into a file
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00562-00115064-00115334 and i'll think more about that um data
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00563-00115335-00115558 problem and think if actually prep is
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00564-00115559-00115839 the right place to try and do it because
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00565-00115840-00115999 i feel like i'm going to hit a wall
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00566-00116000-00116231 pretty quickly with tableau prep
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00567-00116232-00116486 because it's not limitations but it's
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00568-00116488-00116639 not as mature as something like all
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00569-00116640-00116807 tricks and at least in all tricks i know
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00570-00116808-00116990 a way i could do this using a batch
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00571-00116991-00117231 macro essentially chop the problem down
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00572-00117232-00117319 into
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00573-00117320-00117647 time or coordinate uh constituent
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00574-00117648-00117823 and then now that i've done that i can
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00575-00117824-00118110 actually write out the output for each
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00576-00118111-00118263 part of the flow
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00577-00118264-00118454 as it happens so if i leave this running
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00578-00118455-00118710 for five hours and it fails after four
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00579-00118711-00118878 hours i haven't lost four hours of work
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00580-00118879-00119119 it's actually been writing those to file
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00581-00119120-00119302 prep can't do this i have to essentially
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00582-00119303-00119463 run the whole flow and wait for it to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00583-00119464-00119678 run so i'd quite like to be able to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00584-00119679-00119902 output the outcome as it's going so if
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00585-00119903-00120047 it crashes i can run it again it's
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00586-00120048-00120199 inevitable something's going to break
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00587-00120200-00120319 here so
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00588-00120320-00120510 i've just justified to myself now that
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00589-00120511-00120743 i'm not going to do this in prep
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00590-00120744-00120975 so we'll just i'll put what we have to a
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00591-00120976-00121183 hyper file
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00592-00121183-00121414 let's go over to um
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00593-00121415-00121663 the desktop here let's go for this our
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00594-00121664-00121990 place and um for this next phase i think
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00595-00121991-00122158 i'm going to have to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00596-00122159-00122278 um
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00597-00122279-00122527 i think i'm going to have to do this on
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00598-00122528-00122766 uh windows rather than on the mac so
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00599-00122767-00122958 i'll explain why in a second call this
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00600-00122959-00123214 v1
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00601-00123215-00123283 hit
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00602-00123283-00123543 accept and hit run so while this is
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00603-00123544-00123719 running this is going to take time no
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00604-00123720-00123886 doubt um
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00605-00123888-00123999 the reason i'm going to have to do some
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00606-00124000-00124263 windows is the mac version of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00607-00124264-00124510 tableau is still not optimized for mac
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00608-00124511-00124783 so it's still running rosetta and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00609-00124783-00124927 because of that it's actually a little
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00610-00124928-00125175 bit slower it can be temperamental and i
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00611-00125176-00125334 don't want that to be the reason this
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00612-00125335-00125447 doesn't work
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00613-00125448-00125671 and secondly i think my computer is
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00614-00125672-00125790 actually going to be faster it's got
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00615-00125791-00126095 more resources more ram and more cpu and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00616-00126096-00126278 the whole lot so it will actually be
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00617-00126279-00126471 able to i think keep up with the scale
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00618-00126472-00126695 of this data which at the moment is 21
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00619-00126696-00126878 gig but we'll see what tableau prep
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00620-00126879-00127102 writes this to uh when it's done very
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00621-00127103-00127278 very shortly so this is going to take a
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00622-00127279-00127431 bit of time um
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00623-00127432-00127631 my guess is probably up to half an hour
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00624-00127632-00127847 given that this is like i don't know how
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00625-00127848-00128078 big this is um
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00626-00128079-00128310 a million records would be about
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00627-00128311-00128510 100 meg so
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00628-00128511-00128783 i definitely think that something as big
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00629-00128783-00129007 as this data set is going to be much
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00630-00129008-00129214 much bigger bearing in mind it's also
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00631-00129215-00129351 saved as text we don't know what it's
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00632-00129352-00129527 going to get compressed to so
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00633-00129528-00129686 we'll leave this running and yeah when
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00634-00129688-00129902 it's done i'll be back and we'll walk
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00635-00129903-00130039 you through the final part of the video
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00636-00130040-00131439 where we'll try it up in tableau
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00637-00131440-00131623 okay so it's the next day i actually
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00638-00131624-00131854 took a break the file took about 33
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00639-00131855-00132127 minutes to run we ended up with 160
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00640-00132128-00132327 million records if i actually go to my
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00641-00132328-00132559 folder here you can see that i have the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00642-00132560-00132790 hyperfile the extracted file and we went
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00643-00132791-00132875 from
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00644-00132876-00133231 21.71 gigabytes to 2.78 gigabytes that's
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00645-00133232-00133439 almost a factor of 10 in terms of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00646-00133440-00133623 reducing the size of that data right
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00647-00133624-00133854 down purely by just optimizing changing
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00648-00133855-00134039 things numerical fields and optimizing
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00649-00134040-00134214 now if i hadn't done that i probably
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00650-00134215-00134431 would have gotten closer to about
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00651-00134432-00134663 half that number so about 12 gigabytes
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00652-00134664-00134847 just because when tableau creates an
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00653-00134848-00135039 extract it's actually also zipping it
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00654-00135040-00135239 and compressing it itself so that's
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00655-00135240-00135399 actually the fact maybe we'll try and do
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00656-00135400-00135590 that some other time but we now have the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00657-00135591-00135854 file we're ready to go and work with it
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00658-00135855-00136135 over in tableau now the thing i'm going
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00659-00136136-00136351 to do is i'm not going to use tablet on
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00660-00136352-00136654 my m1 mac now the tableau software
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00661-00136655-00136878 itself is actually works fine on an m1
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00662-00136879-00137111 mac the problem is when it comes to data
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00663-00137112-00137375 sources the compatibility isn't sort of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00664-00137376-00137535 a hundred percent and there's sometimes
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00665-00137536-00137790 quirks um in terms of performance things
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00666-00137791-00137990 just running slower and things not being
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00667-00137991-00138190 100 and i don't want to get in the way
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00668-00138191-00138390 of sort of just showing what you can do
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00669-00138391-00138583 with tableau on what most people have
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00670-00138584-00138743 which is a windows laptop especially in
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00671-00138744-00138927 the business context so what i'm going
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00672-00138928-00139135 to do is i'm going to remote into my
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00673-00139136-00139327 desktop pc which is just literally near
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00674-00139328-00139495 here and i just do that through
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00675-00139496-00139719 microsoft remote desktop and when we do
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00676-00139720-00139959 that we just open up this particular tag
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00677-00139960-00140111 here now what i'm going to do is i'm
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00678-00140112-00140278 going to close this tab here and that
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00679-00140279-00140478 was actually like a sample workbook for
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00680-00140479-00140639 this video and now what we're going to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00681-00140640-00140783 do we're going to start from scratch i'm
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00682-00140784-00140983 going to show you how to open this file
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00683-00140984-00141135 and we're just going to get going the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00684-00141136-00141311 file itself was already on my desktop so
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00685-00141312-00141478 we can actually start working with this
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00686-00141479-00141711 and if we go ahead and open up this file
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00687-00141712-00141943 you'll see that this actually also ran
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00688-00141944-00142207 at midnight so we'll just open this and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00689-00142208-00142478 we'll get there a little bit quicker and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00690-00142479-00142654 now you can see we've got the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00691-00142655-00142863 core data set sort of pretty much ready
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00692-00142864-00143095 to go everything is sort of set out as
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00693-00143096-00143223 we expected it and the fact that it
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00694-00143224-00143447 opened really quickly is really positive
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00695-00143448-00143671 the main reason that is is because
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00696-00143672-00143871 essentially if tablet can open the file
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00697-00143872-00144031 and we can get straight into it then we
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00698-00144032-00144199 know we can already start to work with
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00699-00144200-00144351 at least a very basic level of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00700-00144352-00144559 aggregation so for example if i want to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00701-00144560-00144719 count the number of records in this data
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00702-00144720-00144902 set i can actually just go ahead put it
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00703-00144903-00145135 in and 160 million comes back almost
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00704-00145136-00145311 instantaneously i want to break this
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00705-00145312-00145502 down by pixel id which is essentially
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00706-00145503-00145695 the different colors then again we get
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00707-00145696-00145919 an almost instant response so for at
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00708-00145920-00146143 least very ad hoc analysis this is
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00709-00146144-00146287 working absolutely fine you wouldn't
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00710-00146288-00146439 even know the difference between this
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00711-00146440-00146663 size data set and maybe an excel file
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00712-00146664-00146878 everything is working as you'd expect
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00713-00146879-00147078 now for the next thing what i want to do
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00714-00147079-00147223 is actually start building something and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00715-00147224-00147407 at least for this video what i'll do i
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00716-00147408-00147551 just want to recreate some sort of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00717-00147552-00147783 canvas if that makes sense and i want to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00718-00147784-00148014 be smart about this because um there's a
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00719-00148015-00148143 couple of ways of working in tableau
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00720-00148144-00148302 when you work with large data sometimes
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00721-00148303-00148454 you have to get a little bit smart and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00722-00148455-00148687 there's this feature here on the top
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00723-00148688-00148935 left where you can pause things now what
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00724-00148936-00149119 it means essentially is every time you
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00725-00149120-00149247 do something in tableau it's not going
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00726-00149248-00149439 to try and react and build what you're
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00727-00149440-00149639 trying to do and this is actually useful
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00728-00149640-00149759 because when you're working with big
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00729-00149760-00149919 data sets you've got to think of it like
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00730-00149920-00150102 a set of instructions would you rather
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00731-00150103-00150287 give someone a big list of instructions
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00732-00150288-00150454 so they can look at it and optimize how
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00733-00150455-00150631 they're going to get all that work done
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00734-00150632-00150783 would you rather keep giving it to them
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00735-00150784-00150990 one bit at a time for them to only then
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00736-00150991-00151143 get frustrated i could have done this in
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00737-00151144-00151287 a different way if you'd given me all
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00738-00151288-00151423 the tasks ahead of time that's
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00739-00151424-00151590 essentially what's happening here by
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00740-00151591-00151751 hitting the pause we're basically going
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00741-00151752-00151919 to build our visualization completely
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00742-00151920-00152087 blind and then when we're done we'll hit
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00743-00152088-00152263 play and tablet will take all of those
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00744-00152264-00152487 instructions and process them in one go
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00745-00152488-00152711 that means we run a query once and then
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00746-00152712-00152887 it renders everything once rather than
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00747-00152888-00153063 having to do it every single time we
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00748-00153064-00153231 drag something on so what you gotta
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00749-00153232-00153399 realize is every time i do something
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00750-00153400-00153575 it's not having to do that work until
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00751-00153576-00153766 i'm completely done so it ends up being
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00752-00153767-00153959 a lot faster so for this one we're going
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00753-00153960-00154190 to start by bringing the coordinates in
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00754-00154191-00154502 i'll put the x on the columns and uh y
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00755-00154503-00154783 on the right now tablet has a tendency
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00756-00154784-00154926 to want to aggregate everything which
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00757-00154927-00155078 for some people is really weird but
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00758-00155079-00155278 actually in most analytical context
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00759-00155279-00155447 that's literally how most analytics is
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00760-00155448-00155678 done aggregation happens nearly all the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00761-00155679-00155831 time unless you're looking at row level
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00762-00155832-00156071 data which case um you might as well be
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00763-00156072-00156207 looking at a file in excel you don't
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00764-00156208-00156414 need to come to tablet to do that and if
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00765-00156415-00156607 i go in here and break this down there's
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00766-00156608-00156823 a couple of ways of aggregation now what
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00767-00156824-00156990 i want to do is actually select average
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00768-00156991-00157199 and i'll explain this shortly but
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00769-00157200-00157383 i'm just going to select both of these
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00770-00157384-00157614 in essence these are the coordinates and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00771-00157615-00157807 the coordinates are unique to one
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00772-00157808-00158023 particular pixel and so what i want to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00773-00158024-00158190 be able to do is
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00774-00158191-00158351 number one count how many data points
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00775-00158352-00158639 are behind a particular pixel but also i
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00776-00158640-00158814 want to try and build a heat map and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00777-00158815-00159031 what i don't need is for it to be
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00778-00159032-00159214 aggregating those coordinates in any way
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00779-00159215-00159414 because i split the x and the y i don't
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00780-00159415-00159623 need it adding up all the x coordinates
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00781-00159624-00159799 that's just not going to work so by
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00782-00159800-00159975 choosing an average it's basically going
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00783-00159976-00160159 to calculate the average which will take
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00784-00160160-00160359 that coordinate position for the x or
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00785-00160360-00160639 the y and multiply by how many records
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00786-00160640-00160783 they are then divided by the amount of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00787-00160784-00160935 records and then we're basically back to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00788-00160936-00161135 square one exact same number so that's
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00789-00161136-00161311 essentially just just the simplicity of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00790-00161312-00161654 the map um if we go ahead and take the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00791-00161655-00161831 count here what we're going to do is
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00792-00161832-00161990 we're going to put it on size this is
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00793-00161991-00162183 going to shape the circle that we're
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00794-00162184-00162326 going to use
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00795-00162327-00162502 based on the number of records on that
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00796-00162503-00162678 particular pixel so again nothing is
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00797-00162679-00162823 happening visually here we're just
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00798-00162824-00162975 building this blind because we've got
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00799-00162976-00163239 the pause button now the size will vary
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00800-00163240-00163383 but i could sort of play around with
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00801-00163384-00163495 this i don't really know what i'm going
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00802-00163496-00163654 to get so i'll leave it just in the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00803-00163655-00163807 middle until we actually see something
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00804-00163808-00163999 and then we'll come back to it now the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00805-00164000-00164166 other thing i need to do is if i want to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00806-00164167-00164383 see things at a coordinate level at the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00807-00164384-00164583 moment it's aggregating everything and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00808-00164584-00164759 doing the average and so unless i tell
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00809-00164760-00164911 it that i want to work at the level of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00810-00164912-00165119 detail of a coordinate it's not going to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00811-00165120-00165271 work the way i know that is there's
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00812-00165272-00165502 nothing here on detail i'm showing that
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00813-00165503-00165654 we're working on that level so let's go
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00814-00165655-00165847 ahead and grab the coordinate id which i
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00815-00165848-00166047 created in tablet prep drop that on
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00816-00166048-00166223 detail and now you can see that we're
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00817-00166224-00166471 working at that level of detail now that
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00818-00166472-00166599 we're there
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00819-00166600-00166807 we can actually start to think about
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00820-00166808-00167014 what we want to do we can essentially
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00821-00167015-00167207 start to visualize this almost
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00822-00167208-00167359 i mean if i hit play right now we would
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00823-00167360-00167495 get something but it wouldn't be that
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00824-00167496-00167654 useful so i want to make a couple of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00825-00167655-00167902 changes i'm going to hit color here and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00826-00167903-00168038 i'm going to select the color red now
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00827-00168039-00168214 red is an interesting color because
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00828-00168215-00168495 essentially it's very good for looking
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00829-00168496-00168790 at um density because it's actually a
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00830-00168791-00168935 really nice sort of contrast colors and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00831-00168936-00169175 if you sort of ramp the opacity down and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00832-00169176-00169351 you layer tons of red on top it's
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00833-00169352-00169511 actually easier for your eye to see the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00834-00169512-00169687 differences between those sort of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00835-00169688-00169919 identities and and if you choose other
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00836-00169920-00170071 colors like blue it can actually be
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00837-00170072-00170199 sometimes harder so i'm just going to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00838-00170200-00170390 drag this right down to 1
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00839-00170391-00170551 i'm doing that because i know that will
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00840-00170552-00170751 actually sort of make this pop some of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00841-00170752-00170951 these coordinates have like 100 000
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00842-00170952-00171207 edits behind them so in order to see
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00843-00171208-00171495 that by reducing it by a fact of 100 we
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00844-00171496-00171726 actually are able to see at least things
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00845-00171727-00171966 that have had over you know 10 000 edits
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00846-00171967-00172263 in a sort of reasonable way um now the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00847-00172264-00172495 next thing to do now that i've changed
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00848-00172496-00172678 the size i've changed the color i
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00849-00172679-00172863 probably want to make the first query i
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00850-00172864-00173038 run a little bit more optimized so i
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00851-00173039-00173190 want to maybe filter down to one
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00852-00173191-00173414 timestamp now you could filter what i'm
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00853-00173415-00173535 actually going to do is create a
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00854-00173536-00173678 calculation first and the reason i'm
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00855-00173679-00173863 creating a calculation because i want
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00856-00173864-00174014 this to be smart and i want to be able
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00857-00174015-00174231 to use it to do some sort of basic time
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00858-00174232-00174487 lapsing so i'll highlight the timestamp
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00859-00174488-00174766 and we'll go and look at the date
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00860-00174767-00174911 functions here and we'll use the date
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00861-00174912-00175078 truncation if you don't know how to use
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00862-00175079-00175287 this tableau has this really handy
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00863-00175288-00175463 example i always hear on the left on the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00864-00175464-00175654 right hand side so what i can do is i
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00865-00175655-00175799 can highlight timestamp double click
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00866-00175800-00175959 date trunk and it actually wraps that
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00867-00175960-00176143 for me and then i can just go ahead and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00868-00176144-00176359 finish the function by saying hour and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00869-00176360-00176559 then putting a comma after that and now
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00870-00176560-00176735 we're going to truncate essentially what
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00871-00176736-00176990 this is going to do if the time is 159
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00872-00176991-00177214 and 50 seconds it's just going to chop
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00873-00177215-00177478 off the 59 minutes and 59 seconds and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00874-00177479-00177678 just leave it at one o'clock and the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00875-00177679-00177799 reason we want to do this is because
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00876-00177800-00177935 we'd like buckets of time and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00877-00177936-00178078 essentially i want to see all the edits
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00878-00178079-00178311 made within an hour which pixels which
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00879-00178312-00178623 dots were edited in a specific hour
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00880-00178624-00178814 what i'm hoping that does is it reduces
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00881-00178815-00178966 the size of the data down bearing in
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00882-00178967-00179190 mind we've got 160 million records i
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00883-00179191-00179407 think this experiment ran over two days
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00884-00179408-00179614 we should be reducing the data size
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00885-00179615-00179823 right down so let's go ahead and do this
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00886-00179824-00180038 let's call this a time
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00887-00180039-00180263 trunk hour
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00888-00180264-00180478 and hit okay and now that we've done
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00889-00180479-00180638 that we're going to drag this into the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00890-00180639-00180790 filters now this is this is sort of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00891-00180791-00180935 interesting because we've paused
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00892-00180936-00181087 everything but you can actually still
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00893-00181088-00181247 set the filters and i'm going to select
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00894-00181248-00181478 individual date and time because i've
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00895-00181479-00181702 already truncated it so i don't need to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00896-00181703-00181951 worry about um you know choosing the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00897-00181952-00182143 hours through like some sort of slider i
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00898-00182144-00182399 can actually just choose this go to next
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00899-00182400-00182583 and go to select from list and it's able
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00900-00182584-00182799 to load those uh time slots and now you
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00901-00182800-00182951 can see everything is pretty much
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00902-00182952-00183111 aggregate aggregate to the hours so it
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00903-00183112-00183302 started at midnight on the 1st of april
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00904-00183303-00183526 and it ended on the 5th of april at
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00905-00183527-00183695 midnight so essentially on the fourth of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00906-00183696-00183863 april at midnight so a four day
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00907-00183864-00184087 experiment um and it's a really sort of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00908-00184088-00184287 good sort of scope of information to see
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00909-00184288-00184431 there so we can actually just go and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00910-00184432-00184671 pick a particular uh you know hour
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00911-00184672-00184863 period so i'm gonna go to the middle um
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00912-00184864-00185087 and we're to pick these two so see what
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00913-00185088-00185295 was happening around midnight on the 3rd
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00914-00185296-00185575 of april so i'm going to hit ok
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00915-00185576-00185790 that will set this filter over here and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00916-00185791-00185950 then later on we'll actually take this
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00917-00185951-00186102 filter and do something else with it
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00918-00186103-00186287 this particular field will do something
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00919-00186288-00186431 else with it so we'll be able to play
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00920-00186432-00186671 with it so now that this is done i think
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00921-00186672-00186878 we're pretty much ready to go now what i
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00922-00186879-00187095 will do is let me bring up my computer
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00923-00187096-00187254 specs here so you can just see sort of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00924-00187255-00187399 what i'm doing this on i've got a really
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00925-00187400-00187550 powerful computer here it's not like an
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00926-00187551-00187766 everyday computer i use it for lots of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00927-00187767-00187975 things including editing videos gaming a
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00928-00187976-00188175 whole bunch of stuff so it's slightly
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00929-00188176-00188343 over specked for this particular use
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00930-00188344-00188519 case um but you can see sort of the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00931-00188520-00188654 level of usage and actually when you're
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00932-00188655-00188926 working with data this big um it's
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00933-00188927-00189102 amazing how often businesses don't
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00934-00189103-00189295 realize or don't resource their staff
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00935-00189296-00189447 properly because when you're working
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00936-00189448-00189614 with data that's this big it really
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00937-00189615-00189831 helps to have things like memory like
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00938-00189832-00190111 i've got 64 gig of ram i've already got
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00939-00190112-00190399 13 gig in use and just having two
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00940-00190400-00190638 applications open tableau and now i'm
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00941-00190639-00190775 about to run it through some cruiser
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00942-00190776-00190902 you're going to see this
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00943-00190903-00191071 sort of go up and down the only thing to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00944-00191072-00191319 really pay attention to cpu and memory
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00945-00191320-00191638 so let's go ahead and hit play
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00946-00191639-00191814 and as it's doing that we'll just go
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00947-00191815-00192031 back to this view and actually it's
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00948-00192032-00192271 instantaneous
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00949-00192272-00192550 i love it it didn't even it didn't even
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00950-00192551-00192743 take that long i thought this would take
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00951-00192744-00192878 a while i genuinely thought this would
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00952-00192879-00193199 take a while um but um
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00953-00193200-00193407 that's that's just crazy i can't believe
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00954-00193408-00193654 that and at the bottom here we're
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00955-00193655-00193878 working with 532
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00956-00193879-00194071 000 records actually of course it didn't
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00957-00194072-00194247 take that long um
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00958-00194248-00194478 in tableau that number needs to be about
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00959-00194479-00194711 3 million before you start to see a
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00960-00194712-00194823 problem and maybe it's because my
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00961-00194824-00195031 computer is powerful again but
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00962-00195032-00195238 um you know i've seen laptops happily
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00963-00195239-00195463 handle two million data points as well
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00964-00195464-00195550 so
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00965-00195551-00195807 again um i don't know why i'm surprised
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00966-00195808-00196175 um but maybe again maybe i'm maybe maybe
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00967-00196176-00196359 i'm missing something but
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00968-00196360-00196526 if you don't think this is amazing uh
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00969-00196527-00196726 fair game um i can i totally understand
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00970-00196727-00196999 why um this axis is slightly misleading
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00971-00197000-00197143 though because if you think about the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00972-00197144-00197399 way the uh our place was run let's go
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00973-00197400-00197502 back to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00974-00197503-00197647 the website let's see if we can open
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00975-00197648-00197831 this up um
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00976-00197832-00198007 the actual image actually we don't need
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00977-00198008-00198150 to open up we can just actually look at
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00978-00198151-00198471 the image let's open it here um the top
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00979-00198472-00198671 left pixel the very top left is zero
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00980-00198672-00198935 zero and so our axis although it's
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00981-00198936-00199095 correct in traditional sense it's
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00982-00199096-00199287 actually wrong so we need to edit this
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00983-00199288-00199407 axis
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00984-00199408-00199614 and uh reverse it essentially so that
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00985-00199615-00199799 these zeros at the top and then i think
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00986-00199800-00200063 this will start to look more correct and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00987-00200064-00200223 it's a square which makes sense because
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00988-00200224-00200471 this whole thing was a square and um
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00989-00200472-00200671 yeah now we can actually start to sort
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00990-00200672-00200966 of uh see okay the other thing i've done
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00991-00200967-00201214 uh i think i've done wrong here
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00992-00201215-00201583 is have i got this the wrong way around
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00993-00201584-00201743 trying to look at this and it's gage
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00994-00201744-00201975 have i got this the right way around so
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00995-00201976-00202214 what i can do is i can get i can head to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00996-00202215-00202335 the very
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00997-00202336-00202647 final sets of time let's just let's just
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00998-00202648-00202823 do this let's just go to around about
WyJbxMP2qvQ-00999-00202824-00202919 here
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01000-00202920-00203095 and i know there's a lot of activity
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01001-00203096-00203343 towards the end so let's just hit apply
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01002-00203344-00203575 and leave this filter open
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01003-00203576-00203775 and now it is taking a bit of time there
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01004-00203776-00203959 we go now this is the right way around
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01005-00203960-00204095 what i was essentially looking for is
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01006-00204096-00204231 this character here because i know
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01007-00204232-00204487 roughly around this time uh the flag of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01008-00204488-00204654 france and this character there's sort
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01009-00204655-00204942 of a bit of a war happening there um and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01010-00204944-00205086 between the communities so this is
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01011-00205087-00205279 actually all correct now say this is
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01012-00205280-00205494 working perfectly fine so this is cool
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01013-00205496-00205575 um
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01014-00205576-00205798 this works this concept works the thing
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01015-00205800-00205998 i need to now sort of figure out is how
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01016-00206000-00206262 do we build that um scaffold to allow us
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01017-00206263-00206534 to actually recreate it pixel for pixel
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01018-00206535-00206782 and then um having done that what i also
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01019-00206783-00207310 want to do is i want to be able to um
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01020-00207311-00207446 sort of animate this and we can actually
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01021-00207448-00207598 try this now what i'm going to do is i'm
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01022-00207600-00207758 going to grab this time
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01023-00207759-00207951 and i'm not sure how this is going to go
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01024-00207952-00208182 i think it will sort of panic initially
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01025-00208183-00208406 and then it should run fairly quickly so
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01026-00208407-00208638 let me pause this first i'm going to put
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01027-00208639-00208831 this up here now the page itself is a
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01028-00208832-00209023 feature in tableau it essentially takes
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01029-00209023-00209238 whatever dimension you put there and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01030-00209239-00209462 treats it like a page in a book so in
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01031-00209463-00209646 this case we've put the hour on there so
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01032-00209648-00209863 if you take the four days of activity
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01033-00209864-00210087 every hour becomes a page in a book and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01034-00210088-00210239 then what we can do with these controls
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01035-00210240-00210391 on the right is essentially play through
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01036-00210392-00210558 them so this will play through the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01037-00210559-00210863 changes over the uh period essentially
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01038-00210864-00211039 and we can actually just not necessarily
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01039-00211040-00211191 animate it but we can actually kind of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01040-00211192-00211494 see the changes in our level sort of uh
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01041-00211496-00211758 snapshot so um i can't load anything
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01042-00211759-00211942 because everything the view is paused so
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01043-00211944-00212119 what this is going to load the first
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01044-00212119-00212375 time is going to load the first page and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01045-00212376-00212567 the first page has very few edits
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01046-00212567-00212734 because when this went live the first
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01047-00212735-00212894 set of edits in the first hour were just
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01048-00212896-00213094 like five or six pixels before the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01049-00213096-00213279 community started to mobilize and really
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01050-00213280-00213446 organize and then stuff started
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01051-00213448-00213734 happening so let's go ahead and hit play
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01052-00213735-00214558 and we'll see how long this takes
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01053-00214559-00214798 now the paging function is going to be
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01054-00214800-00214975 slightly different because i think
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01055-00214976-00215142 what's going on is it loads up the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01056-00215144-00215375 different pages into some sort of frame
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01057-00215376-00215646 whereas um in the filter pane it's
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01058-00215648-00215871 actually you know filtering the data
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01059-00215871-00216039 before it then runs a query so for this
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01060-00216040-00216223 one it actually has to have the whole
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01061-00216223-00216446 data set in in memory in order to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01062-00216448-00216687 understand you know which pages uh go
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01063-00216688-00216871 where so that's why i think this takes
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01064-00216871-00217071 longer than just rendering the exact
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01065-00217071-00217271 same thing but filtered
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01066-00217271-00217398 um that's probably a really bad
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01067-00217400-00217567 explanation i'm sure someone will be
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01068-00217567-00217751 able to come on here and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01069-00217752-00217982 correct me so let's just let this finish
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01070-00217983-00218079 um
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01071-00218080-00218334 i think it is still uh it's not doing
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01072-00218335-00218487 the query it's just computing the view
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01073-00218488-00218631 but i think the paging is what sort of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01074-00218632-00218846 really complex is this and what i'll do
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01075-00218848-00219015 is i'll just skip ahead to when this
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01076-00219016-00219206 finishes and we'll sort of roughly gauge
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01077-00219207-00219358 how long it took
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01078-00219359-00219567 okay so it's loaded it doesn't look like
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01079-00219567-00219710 anything's happened but if i move my
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01080-00219711-00219863 mouse over here you can just see those
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01081-00219864-00220094 dots there so um because they're really
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01082-00220096-00220358 opaque uh all the data points are there
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01083-00220359-00220534 we're just not in an hour where a lot
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01084-00220535-00220758 happens so let's go over here
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01085-00220759-00220910 and let's choose a
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01086-00220911-00221087 an hour that's more in the middle of the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01087-00221088-00221334 park and we should get better response
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01088-00221335-00221494 time now because the page itself has
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01089-00221496-00221751 already loaded the filter into
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01090-00221752-00221927 sort of the view and there you go we do
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01091-00221928-00222134 get a better response now what happened
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01092-00222135-00222342 here is that the different quadrants of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01093-00222344-00222551 the visualization of the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01094-00222552-00222719 sorry the image were opened up a
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01095-00222719-00222879 different time so only the top half is
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01096-00222880-00223071 filled and we're actually going to just
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01097-00223071-00223191 try something i'm going to hit the play
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01098-00223192-00223334 button see if this actually works so
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01099-00223335-00223487 we're going to see if tableau is
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01100-00223488-00223655 actually able to play through each of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01101-00223656-00223910 these hours and we should sort of see it
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01102-00223911-00224191 changing so and what i expect to see is
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01103-00224192-00224367 you see yep you saw that change there
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01104-00224367-00224646 that this moves and then it goes forward
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01105-00224648-00224831 and then it keeps moving and if you do
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01106-00224832-00225023 this over time essentially you're then
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01107-00225023-00225279 able to animate this and uh sort of get
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01108-00225280-00225431 it working so you can see lots of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01109-00225432-00225558 different things
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01110-00225559-00225742 sort of turning up on the screen there's
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01111-00225744-00225967 a few not safe for work sort of parts of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01112-00225967-00226079 this that's why i'm keeping this
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01113-00226080-00226367 deliberately zoomed out um and yeah it's
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01114-00226367-00226558 working it's it's completely sort of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01115-00226559-00226751 seamless now there's also less data
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01116-00226752-00226958 points here so it's actually easier
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01117-00226959-00227239 because the scope of the data is is sort
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01118-00227240-00227446 of not that large but as the whole
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01119-00227448-00227639 canvas opens up i expect this to take a
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01120-00227640-00227839 little bit longer with each page and so
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01121-00227840-00228046 what does happen is at some point they
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01122-00228048-00228215 open up the bottom half of the canvas
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01123-00228216-00228382 and there's a big explosion you can kind
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01124-00228383-00228575 of see flags turning up and if i just
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01125-00228576-00228742 sort of highlight this here that
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01126-00228744-00228951 definitely looks like a flag these
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01127-00228952-00229279 squares tend to be things like flags and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01128-00229280-00229542 so if you go look at the actual image if
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01129-00229544-00229710 i actually go back over here you can see
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01130-00229711-00229894 that that is indeed i think it's the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01131-00229896-00230191 turkish flag um and you see a couple of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01132-00230192-00230423 other squares sort of forming here
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01133-00230423-00230598 and it's it's actually quite a cool uh
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01134-00230600-00230831 sort of uh space um and yeah it just
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01135-00230832-00231039 keeps going it just basically keeps
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01136-00231040-00231246 keeps changing so yeah this is working
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01137-00231248-00231463 um i'll hit stop for now just to stop
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01138-00231464-00231679 the animation going on and what i'll do
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01139-00231680-00231863 is i'll jump forward to when there's
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01140-00231864-00232063 something across the whole canvas and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01141-00232064-00232223 we'll just go on this little drop down
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01142-00232223-00232455 and we'll choose something maybe um i
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01143-00232456-00232655 can't go right to the end because uh
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01144-00232656-00232791 before the end what they did is they
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01145-00232792-00232942 changed it so the only edits you could
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01146-00232944-00233103 make were edits to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01147-00233104-00233287 uh change everything back to white and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01148-00233288-00233487 essentially it stayed running until
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01149-00233488-00233646 absolutely everything had changed over
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01150-00233648-00233903 but here you can see the whole canvas
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01151-00233904-00234071 so this is working so i'm think i'm
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01152-00234071-00234255 going to stop here for part one of the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01153-00234256-00234494 video anyway and the next thing to do is
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01154-00234496-00234655 to say okay we've got this bit working
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01155-00234656-00234798 in tableau we know we can sort of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01156-00234800-00235087 visualize these dots um i'm not sure
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01157-00235088-00235287 about the size of the dots once we have
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01158-00235288-00235487 the different colors in we can actually
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01159-00235488-00235655 try and see if we can start to recreate
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01160-00235656-00235879 things at the moment all i'm doing is
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01161-00235880-00236110 just basically generating a heat map and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01162-00236111-00236303 it's kind of working you can kind of see
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01163-00236304-00236510 some of the data points uh working quite
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01164-00236511-00236831 nicely and but in essence i don't think
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01165-00236832-00237015 these circles are small enough to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01166-00237016-00237231 represent uh sort of the fidelity that
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01167-00237232-00237358 we need so
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01168-00237359-00237534 when we start to actually get the color
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01169-00237535-00237775 in and we create the sort of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01170-00237776-00237942 data framework that we need to be able
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01171-00237944-00238119 to visualize all of this then i think
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01172-00238119-00238375 we'll be in a in a great place so yeah
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01173-00238376-00238671 um tableau completely handled this data
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01174-00238671-00238791 set i think it's really good that
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01175-00238792-00238958 tableau prep was able to get us to this
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01176-00238959-00239175 place where we can just start to throw
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01177-00239176-00239455 this data around and what it also allows
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01178-00239456-00239639 us to do is maybe start to enhance this
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01179-00239640-00239871 so we can associate some metadata about
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01180-00239871-00240110 the colors associate metadata about
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01181-00240111-00240310 specific quadrants at the moment you've
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01182-00240311-00240479 got these coordinate ids but what you
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01183-00240480-00240671 could do is you could potentially bring
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01184-00240671-00240919 in another data source which represents
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01185-00240919-00241239 um identified coordinates that specific
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01186-00241240-00241423 communities were targeting so you could
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01187-00241423-00241575 essentially
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01188-00241576-00241863 zone out different parts of this area
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01189-00241864-00242030 and uh you know recreate a sort of a
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01190-00242031-00242263 colored map that shows you those zones
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01191-00242264-00242446 where communities were sort of actively
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01192-00242448-00242687 battling and then you could sort of also
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01193-00242688-00242894 use a parameter to control specific
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01194-00242896-00243079 quadrants of this and cut it up in lots
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01195-00243080-00243263 of different exciting ways but for now
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01196-00243264-00243471 it looks rather unassuming um but i
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01197-00243471-00243598 think that's sort of the fun of this you
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01198-00243600-00243846 kind of have to think ahead now when it
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01199-00243848-00244071 goes back to the data set now i think
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01200-00244071-00244206 earlier on i was talking about you know
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01201-00244207-00244471 what do we need to do in tableau prep um
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01202-00244471-00244623 now that i've thought about it overnight
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01203-00244623-00244846 as well i think the by far the easiest
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01204-00244848-00245110 thing we need to do is we need to get a
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01205-00245111-00245310 scaffold essentially going and for the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01206-00245311-00245510 scaffold what we need is all the
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01207-00245511-00245767 possible minutes or seconds in this
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01208-00245767-00246030 whole entire experiment along one side
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01209-00246031-00246271 and for each of those slots of time i
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01210-00246271-00246479 think minutes will make better sense
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01211-00246480-00246710 seconds is just too too too much
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01212-00246711-00246910 fidelity what we want to do is to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01213-00246911-00247198 capture the changes in each of those
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01214-00247200-00247503 minutes and persist the change if no
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01215-00247504-00247703 change is made so it's essentially like
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01216-00247704-00247934 a fill down in excel if there's nothing
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01217-00247935-00248151 in the row below then fill it down until
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01218-00248152-00248287 we get to another change for that
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01219-00248288-00248510 specific coordinate and we're doing that
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01220-00248511-00248679 on a coordinate level so if we take each
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01221-00248680-00248830 coordinate and we basically say hey what
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01222-00248831-00249030 was the last value for this coordinate
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01223-00249031-00249263 if uh there is no new change from any
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01224-00249264-00249398 user then we're going to persist that
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01225-00249400-00249567 value and keep working our way down and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01226-00249567-00249727 that's actually quite an intensive thing
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01227-00249728-00249919 in all tricks like i said earlier on i
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01228-00249919-00250110 think the way i do that is using a macro
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01229-00250111-00250287 but in tableau prep
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01230-00250288-00250471 there's probably a good way of doing it
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01231-00250471-00250663 it's going to massively increase the i
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01232-00250664-00250823 think the length of time that this flare
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01233-00250823-00250975 will run but we're going to keep
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01234-00250976-00251134 persisting and so we'll call that maybe
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01235-00251135-00251294 part two maybe in a week's time when i
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01236-00251296-00251487 have a bit more time to dig into this i
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01237-00251488-00251623 will be able to do that or maybe you
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01238-00251623-00251823 have time to do that over this week to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01239-00251823-00251942 sort of take on the rest of this
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01240-00251944-00252167 challenge and by all means grab the data
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01241-00252167-00252430 set grab the flow reuse it change it do
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01242-00252431-00252606 whatever you want with it publish
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01243-00252607-00252798 your vis on tableau public if you get to
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01244-00252800-00252927 it before me i'd love to see sort of
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01245-00252928-00253087 what people build out of this i think
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01246-00253088-00253246 it's just great to showcase that tableau
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01247-00253248-00253391 is probably one of the few tools that
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01248-00253392-00253510 can pick up this data set and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01249-00253511-00253703 immediately start to show results in
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01250-00253704-00253863 what is effectively a very short amount
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01251-00253864-00253958 of time
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01252-00253959-00254127 okay thanks for watching i'll catch you
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01253-00254128-00254271 in the next video we'll catch you in
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01254-00254271-00254430 part two i'm gonna carry on pushing
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01255-00254431-00254782 through my 22.1 uh feature update and
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01256-00254783-00255015 then um we we're doing something really
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01257-00255016-00255206 exciting at the moment i can't talk too
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01258-00255207-00255406 much about it and last year i said i was
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01259-00255407-00255567 going to do a big push towards new
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01260-00255567-00255815 technologies and that has kicked off in
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01261-00255816-00256030 earnest and we're doing uh content
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01262-00256031-00256175 around tableau server which will be
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01263-00256176-00256406 coming out soon and i can't talk too
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01264-00256407-00256542 much about some of the other stuff i
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01265-00256544-00256679 just want you guys to see it when you
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01266-00256680-00256951 see it and we'll get going but for all
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01267-00256952-00257119 but for now that's pretty much it for me
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01268-00257119-00257319 i'm super excited to be um you know in
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01269-00257319-00257487 the space making content for you guys
WyJbxMP2qvQ-01270-00257488-00257907 and i'll catch you in the next video
W__YZ5p7dbM-00000-00000168-00000399 welcome to an overview of the mindlamp
W__YZ5p7dbM-00001-00000400-00000695 platform mindlamp is a measurement-based
W__YZ5p7dbM-00002-00000696-00000790 care platform
W__YZ5p7dbM-00003-00000791-00000983 designed for both research and clinical
W__YZ5p7dbM-00004-00000984-00001095 use
W__YZ5p7dbM-00005-00001096-00001319 for the purpose of these videos we will
W__YZ5p7dbM-00006-00001320-00001767 discuss mindlamp in a research context
W__YZ5p7dbM-00007-00001768-00001998 the mindlamp platform consists of two
W__YZ5p7dbM-00008-00002000-00002079 parts
W__YZ5p7dbM-00009-00002080-00002383 the smartphone app and the dashboard
W__YZ5p7dbM-00010-00002384-00002583 the mindlamp smartphone app collects
W__YZ5p7dbM-00011-00002584-00002831 multiple customizable data streams from
W__YZ5p7dbM-00012-00002832-00003063 research participants
W__YZ5p7dbM-00013-00003064-00003303 the mindlamp dashboard allows the study
W__YZ5p7dbM-00014-00003304-00003511 team to customize the smartphone app to
W__YZ5p7dbM-00015-00003511-00003670 the needs of their research
W__YZ5p7dbM-00016-00003671-00003983 and to view participant data in this
W__YZ5p7dbM-00017-00003984-00004031 video
W__YZ5p7dbM-00018-00004032-00004231 we will discuss the mindlamp smartphone
W__YZ5p7dbM-00019-00004232-00004591 app and its functions
W__YZ5p7dbM-00020-00004592-00004806 the mindlamp app is available for both
W__YZ5p7dbM-00021-00004807-00004911 ios and
W__YZ5p7dbM-00022-00004912-00005102 android and can be downloaded from the
W__YZ5p7dbM-00023-00005103-00005383 apple app store or google play store
W__YZ5p7dbM-00024-00005384-00005559 there are two types of data that lamp
W__YZ5p7dbM-00025-00005560-00005686 can collect
W__YZ5p7dbM-00026-00005687-00005999 active data and passive data
W__YZ5p7dbM-00027-00006000-00006199 active data is data that is collected
W__YZ5p7dbM-00028-00006200-00006343 from the lamp user
W__YZ5p7dbM-00029-00006344-00006567 when they are actually using the app
W__YZ5p7dbM-00030-00006568-00006687 while passive data
W__YZ5p7dbM-00031-00006688-00006855 is data that is collected in the
W__YZ5p7dbM-00032-00006856-00007087 background regardless of whether or not
W__YZ5p7dbM-00033-00007088-00007391 the user is actively using the app on
W__YZ5p7dbM-00034-00007392-00007455 the screen
W__YZ5p7dbM-00035-00007456-00007623 you can see a list of the types of
W__YZ5p7dbM-00036-00007623-00007806 active and passive data collected from
W__YZ5p7dbM-00037-00007808-00007934 lamp
W__YZ5p7dbM-00038-00007936-00008119 in addition to data collection
W__YZ5p7dbM-00039-00008120-00008303 researchers also have the option to
W__YZ5p7dbM-00040-00008304-00008487 upload tips and mindfulness activities
W__YZ5p7dbM-00041-00008488-00008983 for their research participants to use
W__YZ5p7dbM-00042-00008984-00009239 now we will go through each screen of
W__YZ5p7dbM-00043-00009240-00009383 the lamp smartphone app
W__YZ5p7dbM-00044-00009384-00009710 and their functions when you first open
W__YZ5p7dbM-00045-00009711-00009839 the lamp smartphone app
W__YZ5p7dbM-00046-00009840-00010159 you will be on the assess page this page
W__YZ5p7dbM-00047-00010160-00010367 allows participants to take surveys
W__YZ5p7dbM-00048-00010368-00010574 which are customized by the researcher
W__YZ5p7dbM-00049-00010575-00010695 and play games
W__YZ5p7dbM-00050-00010696-00010903 which are modified neuropsychological
W__YZ5p7dbM-00051-00010904-00011174 tests to assess cognition
W__YZ5p7dbM-00052-00011175-00011423 for example this participant is able to
W__YZ5p7dbM-00053-00011424-00011551 take a customized
W__YZ5p7dbM-00054-00011552-00012735 survey called survey1
W__YZ5p7dbM-00055-00012736-00013046 a mood survey and an anxiety survey
W__YZ5p7dbM-00056-00013047-00013286 they are also able to play joules a and
W__YZ5p7dbM-00057-00013287-00013358 b
W__YZ5p7dbM-00058-00013359-00013511 which are modified versions of the
W__YZ5p7dbM-00059-00013512-00013838 trails a and trails b test
W__YZ5p7dbM-00060-00013840-00013999 in the bottom left-hand corner of the
W__YZ5p7dbM-00061-00014000-00014471 screen navigate to the feed page
W__YZ5p7dbM-00062-00014472-00014663 researchers can set notifications for
W__YZ5p7dbM-00063-00014663-00014838 lamp activities
W__YZ5p7dbM-00064-00014840-00014999 so that the participant will receive a
W__YZ5p7dbM-00065-00015000-00015166 push notification to complete an
W__YZ5p7dbM-00066-00015168-00015222 activity
W__YZ5p7dbM-00067-00015223-00015519 at a certain time or on a certain day
W__YZ5p7dbM-00068-00015519-00015750 any scheduled notifications can be seen
W__YZ5p7dbM-00069-00015751-00015871 on the feed
W__YZ5p7dbM-00070-00015872-00016119 for example this user has a journal
W__YZ5p7dbM-00071-00016119-00016447 entry scheduled at 12 30 pm today
W__YZ5p7dbM-00072-00016448-00016663 users can tap directly on the activity
W__YZ5p7dbM-00073-00016664-00016883 from the feed to be taken to that
W__YZ5p7dbM-00074-00016884-00017047 activity
W__YZ5p7dbM-00075-00017048-00017415 next on the learn page
W__YZ5p7dbM-00076-00017416-00017655 the user can access uploaded articles
W__YZ5p7dbM-00077-00017656-00017847 and tips or other reading materials that
W__YZ5p7dbM-00078-00017848-00018071 are programmed by the researcher
W__YZ5p7dbM-00079-00018072-00018311 for example this user has access to mood
W__YZ5p7dbM-00080-00018312-00019703 tips
W__YZ5p7dbM-00081-00019704-00020111 on the manage page
W__YZ5p7dbM-00082-00020112-00020294 the user can engage in mindfulness
W__YZ5p7dbM-00083-00020295-00020503 activities breathing exercises
W__YZ5p7dbM-00084-00020504-00020814 or a journal entry all managed
W__YZ5p7dbM-00085-00020815-00020958 activities can be uploaded and
W__YZ5p7dbM-00086-00020959-00021039 customized
W__YZ5p7dbM-00087-00021040-00022294 by the researcher
W__YZ5p7dbM-00088-00022295-00022575 finally on the prevent page a user can
W__YZ5p7dbM-00089-00022576-00022607 view
W__YZ5p7dbM-00090-00022608-00022830 all of the data collected from any of
W__YZ5p7dbM-00091-00022831-00023047 the other pages on lamp
W__YZ5p7dbM-00092-00023048-00023294 for example anytime a user takes a
W__YZ5p7dbM-00093-00023295-00023375 survey on
W__YZ5p7dbM-00094-00023376-00023550 the assess page they are able to
W__YZ5p7dbM-00095-00023551-00023750 navigate to view their data on the
W__YZ5p7dbM-00096-00023751-00024184 prevent page
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W_PB_o7Sz-g-00002-00003305-00003897 foreign
W_PB_o7Sz-g-00004-00007002-00007269 dogs
W_PB_o7Sz-g-00006-00010692-00011215 foreign
W_PB_o7Sz-g-00007-00011216-00013052 [Music]
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00000-00000114-00000262 [Music]
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00001-00000263-00000999 hey guys it's felicia
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00002-00001000-00001335 okay so this will be a quick grocery
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00003-00001336-00001431 haul
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00004-00001432-00001655 we are back and
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00005-00001655-00001959 i need to clear that summer
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00006-00001960-00002110 palette like
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00007-00002111-00002391 all the deliciousness
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00008-00002392-00002623 oh i've been eating good but
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00009-00002624-00002910 i am going back to three meals a day
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00010-00002911-00003118 a pound of veggies a day
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00011-00003119-00003254 proteins
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00012-00003255-00003367 fruit
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00013-00003368-00003583 the whole shebang so i just came back
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00014-00003584-00003719 from the grocery store i've got
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00015-00003720-00003886 everything over on the table and i want
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00016-00003887-00004015 to show you guys
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00017-00004015-00004238 what i got all right so let's just take
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00018-00004239-00004415 a quick
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00019-00004416-00004591 look at all of that
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00020-00004592-00004831 deliciousness
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00021-00004832-00005079 how much you guys think it caused put it
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00022-00005080-00005295 down in the comment section below let's
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00023-00005296-00005535 go through it though we'll make it quick
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00024-00005536-00005783 we've got some clorox bleach which was
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00025-00005784-00005959 8.99
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00026-00005960-00006175 then i remember the days this was like
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00027-00006176-00006351 two or three dollars
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00028-00006352-00006575 then we've got ground turkey
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00029-00006576-00006655 and
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00030-00006656-00006910 chicken thighs 1168
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00031-00006911-00007070 and then more chicken thighs this
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00032-00007072-00007383 particular brand was buy one get one so
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00033-00007384-00007534 667
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00034-00007536-00007663 and
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00035-00007664-00007927 625
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00036-00007928-00008207 and these drumsticks were buy one get
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00037-00008208-00008327 one
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00038-00008328-00008703 581
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00039-00008704-00008974 five eighty six
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00040-00008975-00009087 and then
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00041-00009088-00009335 these were also buy one get one
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00042-00009336-00009551 zoom out a little bit
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00043-00009552-00009831 um so these were five thirty seven
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00044-00009832-00009942 and
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00045-00009943-00010095 548
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00046-00010096-00010206 and then
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00047-00010207-00010414 these were marked down like for a quick
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00048-00010415-00010878 sell so these drumsticks were 529
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00049-00010879-00011287 and then these were 5 18
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00050-00011288-00011687 and then these chicken thighs were
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00051-00011688-00011959 10 76
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00052-00011960-00012303 this um pork 607
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00053-00012304-00012670 607 like like guys so these were buy one
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00054-00012671-00012927 get one and the fact that i found them
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00055-00012928-00013094 at the same exact price like that just
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00056-00013095-00013391 made me so happy
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00057-00013391-00013743 and then we've got some bananas
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00058-00013744-00013863 and
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00059-00013863-00014086 cauliflower because i'm going to make
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00060-00014087-00014319 mashed cauliflower
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00061-00014319-00014519 and i also want to make a quick note so
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00062-00014519-00014679 i want to pop in real quickly you guys
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00063-00014680-00014886 are about to see some convenience items
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00064-00014887-00015150 because it is monday and i am just
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00065-00015151-00015375 getting around to doing the meal prep
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00066-00015376-00015543 so sometimes you got to do what you got
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00067-00015544-00015799 to do so i'm short on time this week so
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00068-00015800-00015975 you're about to see you're about to see
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00069-00015976-00016135 some convenience items so with that
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00070-00016136-00016279 being said
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00071-00016280-00016375 um
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00072-00016376-00016671 yeah we've got peppers and onion
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00073-00016672-00016830 that are already chopped for five
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00074-00016831-00017071 dollars each we talked about the
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00075-00017072-00017303 cauliflower i promise you this romaine
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00076-00017304-00017519 was not open when i bought it i ripped
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00077-00017520-00017743 it trying to take it out of the bag
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00078-00017744-00017943 um
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00079-00017944-00018167 so two packs of romaine and i already
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00080-00018168-00018335 have some in the refrigerator to make my
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00081-00018336-00018630 salads for tonight so that's fine
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00082-00018631-00018750 and then
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00083-00018751-00019030 some zucchini and squash
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00084-00019031-00019279 um five dollars each
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00085-00019280-00019511 aluminum full
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00086-00019512-00019743 steamed veggies
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00087-00019744-00020111 so this is another convenience item
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00088-00020112-00020343 um like i said i'm going back to a pound
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00089-00020344-00020535 of veggies a day this is already
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00090-00020536-00020678 pre-chopped
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00091-00020679-00021055 um it was 14.99 and to be quite honest
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00092-00021056-00021358 with you guys when i because i was gonna
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00093-00021359-00021630 buy all of these things individually
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00094-00021631-00021863 it was actually a better deal and i know
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00095-00021864-00022103 that doesn't sound legit but in today's
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00096-00022104-00022214 prices
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00097-00022215-00022422 i came out ahead by just buying it this
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00098-00022423-00022694 way i'm being honest on that one even
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00099-00022695-00022822 with these
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00100-00022823-00022975 so
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00101-00022976-00023319 two peppers were 3.99
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00102-00023320-00023694 and then one pepper by itself was 199
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00103-00023695-00023871 so i was just like you know what forget
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00104-00023872-00024135 it i'll just do that
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00105-00024136-00024255 and
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00106-00024256-00024511 i also have some butter
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00107-00024512-00024814 cheese there's two packs of that
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00108-00024815-00025022 and then i've never had this before if
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00109-00025023-00025167 you guys have had these before let me
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00110-00025168-00025350 know down in the comment section
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00111-00025351-00025622 um these are some cheese wraps like i
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00112-00025623-00025918 want to try these and see if i like it
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00113-00025919-00026031 um
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00114-00026032-00026174 look so
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00115-00026175-00026462 i looked at the ingredients so
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00116-00026463-00026758 here are the ingredients they don't look
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00117-00026760-00026862 too
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00118-00026863-00027046 bad
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00119-00027047-00027351 they don't look too bad you can see
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00120-00027352-00027599 mozzarella cheese skim milk salt cheese
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00121-00027600-00027831 cultures enzymes i don't know what those
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00122-00027832-00027935 are
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00123-00027936-00028183 i don't know so i'll try them and i'll
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00124-00028183-00028343 let you guys know
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00125-00028344-00028535 my thoughts regarding them they're by
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00126-00028536-00028655 the brand
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00127-00028656-00029007 crystal farms we'll see we'll see
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00128-00029008-00029190 okay so let's continue
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00129-00029191-00029487 and like i mentioned some um
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00130-00029488-00029887 broccoli steamers
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00131-00029888-00030135 cream cheese
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00132-00030136-00030358 broccoli steamers
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00133-00030360-00030855 these are organic nectarines
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00134-00030856-00031174 organic plums
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00135-00031175-00031518 and apples
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00136-00031519-00031823 fries
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00137-00031824-00031958 um
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00138-00031960-00032283 mushrooms
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00139-00032283-00032662 eggs this is a creamy
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00140-00032663-00032751 um
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00141-00032752-00033055 chipotle ranch dressing
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00142-00033056-00033335 and then barbecue sauce
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00143-00033336-00033535 i want two of those
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00144-00033536-00033718 and then
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00145-00033719-00033927 blue cheese dressing
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00146-00033928-00034046 so
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00147-00034047-00034262 i also got some listerine
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00148-00034263-00034607 you guys i have realized that i
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00149-00034608-00034927 am a fan of the zero alcohol
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00150-00034928-00035118 mouthwash
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00151-00035119-00035399 it is a game changer
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00152-00035400-00035551 so i bought two of those because they
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00153-00035552-00035943 were buy one get 150 off
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00154-00035944-00036167 hot sauce
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00155-00036168-00036255 um
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00156-00036256-00036415 chicken broth
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00157-00036416-00036662 two of those some organic chicken broth
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00158-00036663-00037039 and then some diced tomatoes
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00159-00037040-00037351 i am going to toss this on top of some
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00160-00037352-00037518 chicken thighs and
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00161-00037519-00037671 like season the chicken thighs and put
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00162-00037672-00037846 them in the oven
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00163-00037847-00038287 um coffee these were buy one get one
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00164-00038288-00038487 this brand
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00165-00038488-00038767 but i also love my organic coffee k-cups
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00166-00038768-00038967 too so that's that
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00167-00038968-00039383 and then more hot sauce so
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00168-00039384-00039711 this hot sauce by um sweet baby raise
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00169-00039712-00039911 we've never had before
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00170-00039912-00040135 so i thought we'd try it in case we hate
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00171-00040136-00040302 it
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00172-00040303-00040543 good old louisiana
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00173-00040544-00040639 and
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00174-00040640-00041030 this was on sale i think it was like 199
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00175-00041031-00041327 and then some half and half
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00176-00041328-00041558 and ranch dressing
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00177-00041559-00041646 so
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00178-00041647-00041902 yeah that is all
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00179-00041903-00042167 i think i showed you guys everything
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00180-00042168-00042487 that is the entire grocery haul for the
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00181-00042488-00042599 week
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00182-00042600-00042846 um the meat i think will last longer
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00183-00042847-00043007 than a week but
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00184-00043008-00043215 whenever meat is on sale
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00185-00043216-00043399 if i have it in the budget
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00186-00043400-00043758 i try to um stock up as much as i
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00187-00043759-00043974 possibly can
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00188-00043975-00044239 um because in the long run it definitely
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00189-00044240-00044430 saves me money
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00190-00044431-00044590 so the part that you guys probably want
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00191-00044591-00044830 to know is how much this crap costs not
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00192-00044831-00045039 crap it's food
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00193-00045040-00045255 hold on let me get the receipt okay so i
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00194-00045256-00045415 know that before they put in like all of
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00195-00045416-00045607 the coupons and everything it was like a
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00196-00045608-00045855 little bit over 300.
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00197-00045856-00045999 but
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00198-00046000-00046215 we didn't save a ton
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00199-00046216-00046902 but we did get it down to 250.84
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00200-00046903-00047086 i don't know if you can see that there
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00201-00047087-00047311 but the good news is
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00202-00047312-00047446 that
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00203-00047447-00047655 on my next grocery haul
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00204-00047656-00048095 i have about 89 worth of points so it
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00205-00048096-00048190 should be
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00206-00048191-00048383 almost a
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00207-00048384-00048758 free or like half off grocery haul so
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00208-00048759-00049015 we'll see what happens um what i will do
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00209-00049016-00049111 is
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00210-00049112-00049390 i'll go ahead and i'll prep some of the
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00211-00049391-00049590 proteins for the week and then i'll
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00212-00049591-00049758 insert video here just kind of give you
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00213-00049759-00049967 guys an idea as to
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00214-00049968-00050230 what i plan to do with this food so stay
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00215-00050231-00050439 tuned for that oh and you guys heard me
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00216-00050440-00050735 say that i needed to clear my palette so
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00217-00050736-00050974 i haven't like been eating like sugar or
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00218-00050975-00051127 any of that stuff
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00219-00051128-00051207 but
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00220-00051208-00051502 i have not been sticking to three meals
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00221-00051503-00051599 a day
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00222-00051600-00051799 and i also have not been eating like my
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00223-00051800-00052102 pound of veggies a day um so one thing i
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00224-00052103-00052319 noticed is that whenever i'm traveling
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00225-00052320-00052575 particularly with other people
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00226-00052576-00052863 i tend to
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00227-00052864-00053282 adapt to their eating schedule
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00228-00053283-00053735 and which is fine right like it's okay
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00229-00053736-00053999 but i've got to learn how
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00230-00054000-00054119 i don't even know
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00231-00054120-00054303 so another thing that i like to do like
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00232-00054304-00054526 whenever i'm on vacation is
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00233-00054527-00054735 i like to eat the foods that i can
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00234-00054736-00054959 actually eat like i truly truly enjoy
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00235-00054960-00055119 them like for instance
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00236-00055120-00055454 i love myself some nachos so i truly
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00237-00055455-00055782 thoroughly enjoyed my nachos however it
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00238-00055783-00055975 used to be like oh when i'm on vacation
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00239-00055976-00056238 i eat the foods that i want to eat well
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00240-00056239-00056407 girl when you go on vacation back to
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00241-00056408-00056566 back
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00242-00056567-00056735 you probably shouldn't do that all the
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00243-00056736-00056847 time
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00244-00056848-00057094 but we'll see i'm going to get back on
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00245-00057095-00057382 schedule this week and then
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00246-00057383-00057575 it should be fine even though we do have
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00247-00057576-00057799 one more vacation coming up my husband
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00248-00057800-00057959 and i are celebrating
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00249-00057960-00058238 his birthday and our anniversary
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00250-00058239-00058382 but um
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00251-00058383-00058566 i think i have a little bit more control
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00252-00058567-00058726 with that one anyways let me show you
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00253-00058727-00058854 guys what i got let me show you what i
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00254-00058855-00059079 got oh and this week now that i'm back
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00255-00059079-00059415 so this week i cleared out my um closet
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00256-00059416-00059623 so you guys will see that video
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00257-00059624-00059815 and then also we're gonna do a weigh-in
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00258-00059816-00060054 by friday i should be able to upload the
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00259-00060055-00060303 weigh-in video all right let me flip the
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00260-00060304-00060438 camera around and show you guys what i
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00261-00060439-00060630 am preparing okay so i'm going to toss
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00262-00060632-00060806 the seasonings here
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00263-00060807-00061079 i'll cook this and then once it's like
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00264-00061079-00061215 you know pretty cooked then i'll add
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00265-00061216-00061494 barbecue sauce to this one
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00266-00061495-00061703 this one i'm going to toss this is more
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00267-00061704-00061942 of a lemon pepper mix
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00268-00061944-00062087 and then i'm also going to put one of
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00269-00062088-00062271 these in there
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00270-00062272-00062630 and then these um i will toss all of
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00271-00062632-00062782 them in one pan
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00272-00062783-00062982 and kind of saute them and then use them
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00273-00062983-00063126 during the week
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00274-00063127-00063454 for um i like to combine with
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00275-00063455-00063847 chicken or whatever
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00276-00063848-00064071 so here's the finished product barbecue
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00277-00064072-00064263 chicken for the fam regular chicken for
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00278-00064264-00064791 me and whoever else wants to eat it
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00279-00064791-00065199 so this is my lunch for today
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00280-00065200-00065526 two drumsticks with some veggies
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00281-00065527-00065711 and
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00282-00065712-00066182 some ranch dressing
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00283-00066183-00066447 and here is my breakfast with an apple
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00284-00066448-00066671 and the other apple is for
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00285-00066672-00067111 lunch
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00286-00067112-00067359 here is the bread that i eat
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00287-00067360-00067543 it's flourless
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00288-00067544-00067806 it's the ezekiel bread
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00289-00067807-00068167 um yummy but kind of pricey
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00290-00068168-00068319 but i don't eat bread all the time but
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00291-00068320-00068582 when i want it this is what i have
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00292-00068583-00068743 so i hope you guys enjoyed this video
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00293-00068744-00068943 don't forget to like share and subscribe
WCL-6xGt_Tc-00294-00068944-00069451 and i'll see you in the next video bye
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00000-00015553-00016748 idea it's breakfast ready
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00001-00016749-00017207 so chef Evans mr. John lemons
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00002-00017208-00017444 why don't you tell me a little bit about
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00003-00017445-00018234 you when you decided to become [__] when
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00004-00018235-00018851 you decide to be strong arm of the law
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00005-00018852-00019221 well I guess a dad knew walking like me
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00006-00019222-00020109 doesn't like you it's funny you say that
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00007-00020110-00020388 Marcin especially when it was you who
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00008-00020389-00020726 give up your stuff
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00009-00020727-00021334 yeah my own reasons I think
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00010-00021335-00021553 I didn't get the right choices like you
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00011-00021554-00022153 I was born in law like my father and my
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00012-00022154-00022657 grandfather for him this is what I do
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00013-00022658-00023488 since I remember who I am do you
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00014-00023489-00023605 remember your mother
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00015-00023606-00024201 I don't you let me when I was little boy
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00016-00024202-00024439 and my father he was already powerful
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00017-00024440-00025092 gang
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00018-00025093-00025299 the words I remember the most from him
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00019-00025300-00025670 was your life begin when you know you
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00020-00025672-00026214 can die and you can kill too and then we
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00021-00026214-00026295 made me
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00022-00026295-00026881 [__] man in the head it wasn't me sneeze
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00023-00026882-00027672 and they shot him I was living
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00024-00027673-00027957 the life you got it doesn't justify the
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00025-00027958-00028997 kill or steal the right
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00027-00047960-00048359 take off your cheese for me gonna bring
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00028-00048360-00049049 my arms are they white would escape now
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00029-00049050-00049508 huh you know me there's no way can we
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00031-00053043-00053544 we're about six hours from town if we
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00032-00053545-00053688 keep going at this pace
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00033-00053689-00054044 you could sleep on a bed tonight and
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00034-00054045-00054328 tomorrow I don't care what I bed
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00035-00054329-00054729 tomorrow the Rope will be waiting for me
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00036-00054730-00054792 anyways
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00037-00054793-00055203 tomorrow morning so pleased
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00038-00055204-00057720 it's just restful sink
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00040-00062009-00062258 where were you going when they sent you
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00041-00062259-00062801 as my chaperone you really like to talk
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00042-00062802-00063278 Martin don't you let's just say I have
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00043-00063279-00063816 the urge to talk
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00044-00063816-00064119 what if I ask you questions to change
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00045-00064120-00064914 things around why did you give up added
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00046-00064915-00065301 something
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00047-00065302-00065603 and how the choice in my life to choose
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00048-00065604-00065997 and now I chose that's just not to kill
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00049-00065998-00066512 anyone in order to do that surrender
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00050-00066513-00066906 that it was the only way who won't get
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00051-00066907-00067137 Redemption just forgiving your life if
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00052-00067138-00067352 you're not really regretful
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00053-00067353-00067638 are you going to stop reaching out here
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00054-00067639-00068049 I don't believe in God but that should
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00055-00068050-00068364 either I just believe that a man can
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00056-00068365-00068691 only change his fate but your faith is
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00057-00068692-00070341 death no yeah and I'm terrified
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00058-00070342-00070707 Silver City I was on my way to Silver
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00059-00070708-00071147 City a small town have you been there Oh
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00060-00071148-00071412 ever so how's he gonna know that you're
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00061-00071413-00071763 the chef when we get there well I got my
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00062-00071764-00072099 page and a letter signed by the
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00063-00072100-00074237 President himself in my pocket so
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00064-00074238-00074607 another question trevin's how many guys
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00065-00074608-00075348 have you kill one man one life does it
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00066-00075349-00076086 really matter so many yes yeah I feel
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00067-00076087-00076482 compared to you I guess so
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00068-00076483-00076944 I killed two at the same time we got
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00069-00076945-00077069 ambushed
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00070-00077070-00077616 they were three them my deputy he got
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00071-00077617-00077910 the third one I should down the other
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00072-00077911-00078647 two do you guys at the same time
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00073-00078648-00079077 that's right and that's the good part
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00074-00079078-00080179 and what's better luck runs out
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00075-00080180-00080561 mr. John Evans easy is it if you think
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00076-00080562-00080846 if you wanna kill you we wouldn't have
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00077-00080847-00080962 done it already
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00078-00080963-00081242 it doesn't matter what I think what do
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00079-00081243-00081555 you want that simple sheriff we want him
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00080-00081556-00081728 how are you boss
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00081-00081729-00082132 hi how's it going not too well boss not
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00082-00082133-00082559 so well you know lift us you didn't say
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00083-00082560-00082894 anything after the last job disappear
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00084-00082895-00083236 and then you hear that crazy story that
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00085-00083237-00083623 you have to surrender Jack Martin
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00086-00083624-00084151 surrendered to justice well see to
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00087-00084152-00085023 believe right below you leave that he'll
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00088-00085024-00085271 I'm afraid they can't give him back to
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00089-00085272-00085468 you Martin
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00090-00085469-00085762 it's a prisoner from mistake and I have
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00091-00085763-00086130 to make him force the law no matter what
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00092-00086131-00086465 we don't want bullets flying around and
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00093-00086466-00086692 keeping the good Jack Marston here
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00094-00086693-00086909 leaving this world without telling us
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00095-00086910-00087205 we're receiving what belongs to us
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00096-00087206-00087442 come on sheriff you only have two
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00097-00087443-00087773 bullets and well there's three of us
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00098-00087774-00088240 so it's a lost battle
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00099-00088241-00088818 don't put your luck that's right here
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00100-00088819-00089188 Jackson get them off don't do it Martin
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00101-00089189-00089648 don't make me what about the decision
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00102-00089649-00090160 you made doesn't matter
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00103-00090161-00090582 three against ya so the question is are
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00104-00090583-00093278 you feeling lucky today
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00105-00093279-00093751 it's still a very lucky man chess well
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00106-00093752-00094196 life
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00108-00100485-00102608 well that's
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00109-00102609-00103294 just like my horses running to the
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00110-00103295-00104009 mornings
WE5Lh5GvCYI-00111-00104010-00104510 I will
WEP5VAouu3c-00000-00000055-00000640 [Music]
WEP5VAouu3c-00001-00000641-00000925 [Applause]
WEP5VAouu3c-00002-00000926-00001460 is treating everybody with kindness and
WEP5VAouu3c-00003-00001461-00001960 decency and fostering encounters with
WEP5VAouu3c-00004-00001961-00002359 those different from us the key to
WEP5VAouu3c-00005-00002360-00002840 healing our wounded world I've been
WEP5VAouu3c-00006-00002841-00003005 struggling with this question a lot
WEP5VAouu3c-00007-00003006-00003313 lately because as you see over the last
WEP5VAouu3c-00008-00003314-00003859 few years this rise of totalitarian
WEP5VAouu3c-00009-00003860-00004202 dictatorships and the threats against
WEP5VAouu3c-00010-00004203-00004463 liberal democracy against freedom of
WEP5VAouu3c-00011-00004464-00004704 speech against rule of law not just
WEP5VAouu3c-00012-00004705-00005126 globally but also in our country it
WEP5VAouu3c-00013-00005127-00005320 starts making you wonder what's really
WEP5VAouu3c-00014-00005321-00005536 going to take to try to rebuild those
WEP5VAouu3c-00015-00005537-00005825 bridges that are being broken one of the
WEP5VAouu3c-00016-00005826-00006116 most fundamental things that I love
WEP5VAouu3c-00017-00006117-00006308 about America the country that I
WEP5VAouu3c-00018-00006309-00006742 emigrated to is that special fabric of
WEP5VAouu3c-00019-00006743-00007142 decency of civil discourse of respect
WEP5VAouu3c-00020-00007143-00007489 the ability to listen to one another the
WEP5VAouu3c-00021-00007490-00007838 ability to foster community even with
WEP5VAouu3c-00022-00007839-00007976 those that have different perspectives
WEP5VAouu3c-00023-00007977-00008255 from you and it's sadly something that's
WEP5VAouu3c-00024-00008256-00008753 truly under threat today and that we
WEP5VAouu3c-00025-00008754-00009085 cannot any longer take for granted
WEP5VAouu3c-00026-00009086-00009509 so is fostering emotional intelligence
WEP5VAouu3c-00027-00009510-00009721 and empathy among children going to
WEP5VAouu3c-00028-00009722-00010342 change things my perspective and my
WEP5VAouu3c-00029-00010343-00010564 history my mom's history but even more
WEP5VAouu3c-00030-00010565-00010898 my father's experience tells me that it
WEP5VAouu3c-00031-00010899-00011089 absolutely can and that it's the only
WEP5VAouu3c-00032-00011090-00011591 way my mom was born in cattle country in
WEP5VAouu3c-00033-00011592-00011945 the north of Mexico and came to the
WEP5VAouu3c-00034-00011946-00012080 United States and as a foreign student
WEP5VAouu3c-00035-00012081-00012299 when she was fifteen years old to Our
WEP5VAouu3c-00036-00012300-00012545 Lady of the lake to study school and she
WEP5VAouu3c-00037-00012546-00012755 learned to navigate different cultures
WEP5VAouu3c-00038-00012756-00013066 and taught that to all of us I came from
WEP5VAouu3c-00039-00013067-00013403 Mexico from a sheltered
WEP5VAouu3c-00040-00013404-00013635 isolated Jewish community there's a
WEP5VAouu3c-00041-00013636-00014228 couple Jews out there in Mexico to a
WEP5VAouu3c-00042-00014229-00014436 public school system in San Antonio
WEP5VAouu3c-00043-00014437-00014658 Texas from the privates Jewish school
WEP5VAouu3c-00044-00014659-00014871 there was very homogeneous to a very
WEP5VAouu3c-00045-00014872-00015258 very diverse public high school incident
WEP5VAouu3c-00046-00015259-00015471 oh so yes I'm a product of a public
WEP5VAouu3c-00047-00015472-00015941 education also and I I really learned
WEP5VAouu3c-00048-00015941-00016254 not without some trials and tribulations
WEP5VAouu3c-00049-00016255-00016961 how to navigate different cultures and
WEP5VAouu3c-00050-00016962-00017256 cliques and groups and I have to say you
WEP5VAouu3c-00051-00017257-00017547 know going from that sheltered
WEP5VAouu3c-00052-00017548-00017835 upbringing in the 1980s to the middle of
WEP5VAouu3c-00053-00017836-00018114 San Antonio Texas I don't know any of
WEP5VAouu3c-00054-00018115-00018273 you guys that experienced it but there
WEP5VAouu3c-00055-00018274-00018492 were people wearing breakdancer pants
WEP5VAouu3c-00056-00018493-00018756 and Michael Jackson jackets and some
WEP5VAouu3c-00057-00018757-00018966 were jocks and some were punks and some
WEP5VAouu3c-00058-00018967-00019209 were New Agers and I had no idea that
WEP5VAouu3c-00059-00019210-00019428 they were all different so each day I
WEP5VAouu3c-00060-00019429-00019764 were the clothes of a different one and
WEP5VAouu3c-00061-00019765-00020085 I sat down for lunch with the drama kids
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WEP5VAouu3c-00065-00020605-00020736 didn't understand that I was not
WEP5VAouu3c-00066-00020737-00021024 supposed to hang out with everybody and
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WEP5VAouu3c-00068-00021361-00021561 the punk group she looked at mrs. Daniel
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WEP5VAouu3c-00071-00021910-00022122 one of these groups you can't be friends
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WEP5VAouu3c-00105-00032200-00032487 recognition that he was still a human
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WEP5VAouu3c-00133-00039809-00040075 to the paramilitary forces whispered to
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WEP5VAouu3c-00314-00087351-00087799 I'm pleased now to introduce our final
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WEP5VAouu3c-00321-00089486-00090828 me tonight
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WEP5VAouu3c-00346-00099427-00100130 know today I learned in primary school
WEP5VAouu3c-00347-00100131-00100434 but really that I I think of university
WEP5VAouu3c-00348-00100435-00100882 primary school as as sort of the the the
WEP5VAouu3c-00349-00100883-00101178 launching pad from which I could leap
WEP5VAouu3c-00350-00101179-00101462 into my full potential
WEP5VAouu3c-00351-00101463-00101871 some years ago I went back home to visit
WEP5VAouu3c-00352-00101872-00102387 my parents and my father is known to be
WEP5VAouu3c-00353-00102388-00102663 meticulous record keeper when we were
WEP5VAouu3c-00354-00102664-00102963 growing up he had a file for each of his
WEP5VAouu3c-00355-00102964-00103469 six children and in this file and in
WEP5VAouu3c-00356-00103470-00103733 this file he put in everything you know
WEP5VAouu3c-00357-00103734-00104006 our school reports notes that teachers
WEP5VAouu3c-00358-00104007-00104298 wrote all of that and so I went back
WEP5VAouu3c-00359-00104299-00104366 home
WEP5VAouu3c-00360-00104367-00104705 and I decided to look at my file I sort
WEP5VAouu3c-00361-00104706-00104951 of went looking in my father's study and
WEP5VAouu3c-00362-00104952-00105152 so I found my kindergarten report card
WEP5VAouu3c-00363-00105153-00105503 and in that report card my teacher had
WEP5VAouu3c-00364-00105504-00105983 written she's a brilliant child but she
WEP5VAouu3c-00365-00105983-00106234 refuses to do any work when she's
WEP5VAouu3c-00366-00106235-00107117 annoyed so I remember I remember reading
WEP5VAouu3c-00367-00107118-00107246 that and thinking
WEP5VAouu3c-00368-00107247-00107564 what and I thought wait why didn't
WEP5VAouu3c-00369-00107565-00107852 somebody smack me but all right please
WEP5VAouu3c-00370-00107853-00108071 don't send me angry emails I know that
WEP5VAouu3c-00371-00108072-00108427 smacking is not done in your schools but
WEP5VAouu3c-00372-00108428-00108914 but this is what I thought I thought you
WEP5VAouu3c-00373-00108915-00109208 know I was I was 5 and clearly I was
WEP5VAouu3c-00374-00109208-00109408 very strong-willed and wouldn't do work
WEP5VAouu3c-00375-00109409-00109718 when I was annoyed but what that what
WEP5VAouu3c-00376-00109719-00109973 that comment showed me really was that
WEP5VAouu3c-00377-00109974-00110291 my teacher had paid attention to me but
WEP5VAouu3c-00378-00110292-00110603 he had seen me that he had paid a kind
WEP5VAouu3c-00379-00110604-00110993 of particular attention to me and I
WEP5VAouu3c-00380-00110994-00111173 suspect that he did the same to the
WEP5VAouu3c-00381-00111174-00111506 other children in my class and I think
WEP5VAouu3c-00382-00111507-00111886 of it now as a gift I think that it must
WEP5VAouu3c-00383-00111888-00112073 have taught me confidence to have been
WEP5VAouu3c-00384-00112074-00112295 seen in that way by my teacher in
WEP5VAouu3c-00385-00112296-00112561 kindergarten and I will always remain
WEP5VAouu3c-00386-00112563-00112829 grateful to him his name was mr. Dooku
WEP5VAouu3c-00387-00112830-00113279 and then there was mrs. Carlo she was my
WEP5VAouu3c-00388-00113280-00113657 teacher in grade 5 mrs. Calvo was kind
WEP5VAouu3c-00389-00113658-00113828 she was patient
WEP5VAouu3c-00390-00113829-00114257 she was firm and she saw me she saw all
WEP5VAouu3c-00391-00114258-00114671 of us in her class grade 5a I remember
WEP5VAouu3c-00392-00114672-00115033 once she said to me you feel things too
WEP5VAouu3c-00393-00115034-00115355 strongly and there was a wasteful sort
WEP5VAouu3c-00394-00115356-00115604 of sadness in her voice as though she
WEP5VAouu3c-00395-00115605-00115889 knew that this this feeling things too
WEP5VAouu3c-00396-00115890-00116158 strongly it would be both blessing and
WEP5VAouu3c-00397-00116159-00116444 curse for me that it would infuse my
WEP5VAouu3c-00398-00116445-00116708 writing but that also it would lead to
WEP5VAouu3c-00399-00116708-00117264 that curse of the creatives depression
WEP5VAouu3c-00400-00117265-00117586 it was mrs. Carlo who first acknowledged
WEP5VAouu3c-00401-00117588-00117746 my interest in writing and in
WEP5VAouu3c-00402-00117747-00118159 storytelling she nurtured it she valued
WEP5VAouu3c-00403-00118160-00118463 it she created the time to read the
WEP5VAouu3c-00404-00118464-00118757 stories I wrote she allowed me to write
WEP5VAouu3c-00405-00118758-00119020 please and to produce them in class and
WEP5VAouu3c-00406-00119021-00119468 she stood by and she applauded she made
WEP5VAouu3c-00407-00119469-00119744 me feel that my passion mattered and she
WEP5VAouu3c-00408-00119745-00120283 is in my mind an unassailable star and
WEP5VAouu3c-00409-00120283-00120551 then there were the other kinds of
WEP5VAouu3c-00410-00120552-00120956 teachers I remember mr. abouna and mr.
WEP5VAouu3c-00411-00120957-00121022 Okubo
WEP5VAouu3c-00412-00121023-00121358 in secondary school I was a child with
WEP5VAouu3c-00413-00121358-00121633 many questions and I was educated in a
WEP5VAouu3c-00414-00121634-00121929 system in which West Union was not
WEP5VAouu3c-00415-00121930-00122444 necessarily rewarded in secondary school
WEP5VAouu3c-00416-00122445-00122665 I got straight A's in all of my subjects
WEP5VAouu3c-00417-00122666-00123044 which would have pleased any parent but
WEP5VAouu3c-00418-00123045-00123299 each last day of term my stomach would
WEP5VAouu3c-00419-00123300-00123658 tighten with anxiety because my teachers
WEP5VAouu3c-00420-00123659-00123859 often wrote comments about what they
WEP5VAouu3c-00421-00123860-00124319 termed my lack of respect and these
WEP5VAouu3c-00422-00124320-00124508 comments always got me in trouble with
WEP5VAouu3c-00423-00124508-00124913 my parents and it's been 30 years almost
WEP5VAouu3c-00424-00124914-00125219 and I still have not forgiven those
WEP5VAouu3c-00425-00125220-00125965 teachers lack of respect was really my
WEP5VAouu3c-00426-00125966-00126358 curiosity my asking questions my taking
WEP5VAouu3c-00427-00126359-00126634 delight in intellectual argument my
WEP5VAouu3c-00428-00126635-00126988 refusal to accept easy answers my
WEP5VAouu3c-00429-00126989-00127297 reluctance to perform the rituals of
WEP5VAouu3c-00430-00127298-00127636 deferential fear that was often mistaken
WEP5VAouu3c-00431-00127638-00128018 for respect and I felt that my teachers
WEP5VAouu3c-00432-00128019-00128381 should not have punished me for this now
WEP5VAouu3c-00433-00128382-00128779 looking back I do see how I could very
WEP5VAouu3c-00434-00128780-00128983 well have been a bit of an annoying
WEP5VAouu3c-00435-00128984-00129361 teenager and yet I wish those teachers
WEP5VAouu3c-00436-00129363-00129626 had known how to guide my questioning
WEP5VAouu3c-00437-00129627-00130189 and how to encourage my curiosity my
WEP5VAouu3c-00438-00130190-00130331 point in telling the stories about
WEP5VAouu3c-00439-00130332-00130575 teachers is not just
WEP5VAouu3c-00440-00130576-00130788 to make the rather obvious point that
WEP5VAouu3c-00441-00130789-00131085 teachers matter and because they do I
WEP5VAouu3c-00442-00131086-00131397 think teachers are stars but to say that
WEP5VAouu3c-00443-00131398-00131649 to be a good teacher is often not just
WEP5VAouu3c-00444-00131650-00131880 about teaching the curriculum it's also
WEP5VAouu3c-00445-00131881-00132054 about those things that are harder to
WEP5VAouu3c-00446-00132055-00132360 quantify it's about teaching confidence
WEP5VAouu3c-00447-00132361-00132714 and making a child feel seen as an
WEP5VAouu3c-00448-00132715-00132984 individual because when we value a
WEP5VAouu3c-00449-00132985-00133257 student we teach that student to value
WEP5VAouu3c-00450-00133258-00133833 herself I is to roll my eyes at people
WEP5VAouu3c-00451-00133834-00134025 who when they were asked where they
WEP5VAouu3c-00452-00134026-00134631 lived would mention two places alas I
WEP5VAouu3c-00453-00134632-00134982 have become one of those people and I
WEP5VAouu3c-00454-00134983-00135288 sometimes roll my eyes at myself now but
WEP5VAouu3c-00455-00135289-00135585 I do have two homes one in Nigeria and
WEP5VAouu3c-00456-00135586-00135963 one in the u.s. 20 years ago I left
WEP5VAouu3c-00457-00135964-00136305 Nigeria and I came to the US and my
WEP5VAouu3c-00458-00136306-00136626 reason was education it wasn't merely
WEP5VAouu3c-00459-00136627-00136863 that I was coming to the u.s. to get an
WEP5VAouu3c-00460-00136864-00137136 education it was also that I was running
WEP5VAouu3c-00461-00137137-00137450 away from another kind of education I
WEP5VAouu3c-00462-00137451-00137754 had been in what is called the science
WEP5VAouu3c-00463-00137755-00138159 track all of my life because I did well
WEP5VAouu3c-00464-00138160-00138339 in school and when you do well in school
WEP5VAouu3c-00465-00138340-00138516 they tell you that you have to study the
WEP5VAouu3c-00466-00138517-00138855 sciences studying the arts was for
WEP5VAouu3c-00467-00138856-00139182 people who did not do well and I think
WEP5VAouu3c-00468-00139183-00139406 that this is a great great disservice
WEP5VAouu3c-00469-00139407-00139740 down to students the devaluing of the
WEP5VAouu3c-00470-00139741-00140019 Arts which I think is the result of
WEP5VAouu3c-00471-00140020-00140223 thinking of knowledge in a very narrow
WEP5VAouu3c-00472-00140224-00140748 narrowly utilitarian way I remember when
WEP5VAouu3c-00473-00140749-00140973 I Finn so in secondary school you the
WEP5VAouu3c-00474-00140974-00141152 first three years then you take an exam
WEP5VAouu3c-00475-00141153-00141354 which is called a junior secondary
WEP5VAouu3c-00476-00141355-00141591 school exam and I remember when the
WEP5VAouu3c-00477-00141592-00141801 results came in and I happen to get the
WEP5VAouu3c-00478-00141802-00141966 best result in the school and a teacher
WEP5VAouu3c-00479-00141967-00142230 of mine said to me of course you're
WEP5VAouu3c-00480-00142231-00142596 going to be in the science class why
WEP5VAouu3c-00481-00142597-00142872 would you want to study poetry what will
WEP5VAouu3c-00482-00142873-00143025 you do with poetry
WEP5VAouu3c-00483-00143026-00143517 I saw her point poetry was not an
WEP5VAouu3c-00484-00143518-00143778 obviously practical skill because it
WEP5VAouu3c-00485-00143779-00143946 didn't teach you how to
WEP5VAouu3c-00486-00143947-00144345 build and electric circuits or I don't
WEP5VAouu3c-00487-00144346-00144653 know an experiment in osmosis but poetry
WEP5VAouu3c-00488-00144654-00144950 and the arts are practical if we widen
WEP5VAouu3c-00489-00144951-00145248 our definition of practical the ability
WEP5VAouu3c-00490-00145249-00145635 to think the ability to have empathy the
WEP5VAouu3c-00491-00145636-00145995 ability to use our imaginations I would
WEP5VAouu3c-00492-00145996-00146181 much rather have as my physician a
WEP5VAouu3c-00493-00146182-00146489 person who reads literature because I
WEP5VAouu3c-00494-00146490-00146673 think that person is more likely to know
WEP5VAouu3c-00495-00146674-00146912 that for a human being to be well that
WEP5VAouu3c-00496-00146913-00147069 human being must be thought of as a
WEP5VAouu3c-00497-00147070-00147178 whole person
WEP5VAouu3c-00498-00147179-00147534 emotional mental spiritual and not just
WEP5VAouu3c-00499-00147535-00147779 as a logical collection of bones and
WEP5VAouu3c-00500-00147780-00148349 flesh what I really wanted to do was to
WEP5VAouu3c-00501-00148350-00148652 write and to read but I also understood
WEP5VAouu3c-00502-00148653-00148860 the need to study something practical
WEP5VAouu3c-00503-00148861-00149078 that would enable me to earn a living
WEP5VAouu3c-00504-00149079-00149406 and so I went along and I studied the
WEP5VAouu3c-00505-00149407-00149699 sciences I came to like chemistry
WEP5VAouu3c-00506-00149700-00149888 because I had a wonderful chemistry
WEP5VAouu3c-00507-00149889-00150212 teacher mr. chilly came and I had it all
WEP5VAouu3c-00508-00150213-00150549 nicely planned out I would go ahead and
WEP5VAouu3c-00509-00150550-00150861 become a doctor which is again what is
WEP5VAouu3c-00510-00150862-00151032 expected of everyone who does well in
WEP5VAouu3c-00511-00151033-00151185 school they tell you you have to be a
WEP5VAouu3c-00512-00151186-00151473 doctor and so I had planned it all I
WEP5VAouu3c-00513-00151474-00151635 would become a doctor I would become a
WEP5VAouu3c-00514-00151636-00152031 psychiatrist and during the day I would
WEP5VAouu3c-00515-00152032-00152193 walk as a psychiatrist and at night I
WEP5VAouu3c-00516-00152194-00152387 would use my patient stories for my
WEP5VAouu3c-00517-00152388-00152936 fiction
WEP5VAouu3c-00518-00152937-00153304 but I think it might have worked but
WEP5VAouu3c-00519-00153305-00153834 after after one year of of medical
WEP5VAouu3c-00520-00153835-00154146 school I realized that I would be a very
WEP5VAouu3c-00521-00154147-00154443 unhappy doctor and I also didn't want to
WEP5VAouu3c-00522-00154444-00154644 be responsible for the inadvertent death
WEP5VAouu3c-00523-00154645-00154971 of patients so I thought it was time to
WEP5VAouu3c-00524-00154972-00155223 leave and because I had been in the
WEP5VAouu3c-00525-00155224-00155614 science track my entire educational life
WEP5VAouu3c-00526-00155615-00155879 leaving medicine would have meant going
WEP5VAouu3c-00527-00155880-00156098 to study something else that was a
WEP5VAouu3c-00528-00156099-00156285 science and I didn't want that and
WEP5VAouu3c-00529-00156286-00156554 that's when America became the place to
WEP5VAouu3c-00530-00156555-00156749 go I was fortunate that my sister was
WEP5VAouu3c-00531-00156750-00157061 already here my sister is a dual citizen
WEP5VAouu3c-00532-00157062-00157226 she was born in the sixties in
WEP5VAouu3c-00533-00157227-00157419 California when my father was at
WEP5VAouu3c-00534-00157420-00157688 Berkeley getting his PhD and so when my
WEP5VAouu3c-00535-00157689-00157874 sister graduated from university in
WEP5VAouu3c-00536-00157875-00158082 Nigeria she decided to come to the US
WEP5VAouu3c-00537-00158083-00158469 and so when I decided to flee the study
WEP5VAouu3c-00538-00158470-00158687 of medicine I had somebody here who
WEP5VAouu3c-00539-00158688-00159002 would give me a bed to sleep on and feed
WEP5VAouu3c-00540-00159003-00159294 me for for a while so I took the SATs I
WEP5VAouu3c-00541-00159295-00159521 got a scholarship and I came to the US I
WEP5VAouu3c-00542-00159522-00159773 had always thought of America as a place
WEP5VAouu3c-00543-00159774-00160131 of possibility as an aspirational place
WEP5VAouu3c-00544-00160132-00160403 and imperfect place but one in which
WEP5VAouu3c-00545-00160404-00160811 there was much to admire well the recent
WEP5VAouu3c-00546-00160812-00161082 political situation that image has been
WEP5VAouu3c-00547-00161083-00161528 severely cracked but still and now 20
WEP5VAouu3c-00548-00161529-00161789 years after I came to the u.s. America
WEP5VAouu3c-00549-00161790-00162098 has become home and yet it's a home in
WEP5VAouu3c-00550-00162099-00162323 which I will always have the emotional
WEP5VAouu3c-00551-00162324-00162618 demeanor of a curious and content
WEP5VAouu3c-00552-00162619-00163071 visitor I began observing American
WEP5VAouu3c-00553-00163072-00163286 public education very early on because I
WEP5VAouu3c-00554-00163287-00163548 helped care for my american-born nephew
WEP5VAouu3c-00555-00163549-00164085 my sister's son he was in elementary
WEP5VAouu3c-00556-00164086-00164658 school in small-town Connecticut he was
WEP5VAouu3c-00557-00164659-00165086 a very bright funny kind lovely child
WEP5VAouu3c-00558-00165087-00165543 he's now a 24 year old successful young
WEP5VAouu3c-00559-00165544-00165831 man whom I adore but when he was in
WEP5VAouu3c-00560-00165832-00165935 elementary school in small-town
WEP5VAouu3c-00561-00165936-00166253 Connecticut he very quickly started to
WEP5VAouu3c-00562-00166254-00166620 have problems he would come home and say
WEP5VAouu3c-00563-00166621-00166766 that he had been sent to the principal's
WEP5VAouu3c-00564-00166767-00167121 office there would be teachers notes in
WEP5VAouu3c-00565-00167122-00167394 his bag about how he distracted other
WEP5VAouu3c-00566-00167395-00167619 children and how he spoke up too often
WEP5VAouu3c-00567-00167620-00168171 and how he couldn't keep still I began
WEP5VAouu3c-00568-00168172-00168372 to see that the teachers and indeed the
WEP5VAouu3c-00569-00168373-00168657 school itself was seeing him this young
WEP5VAouu3c-00570-00168658-00168902 black boy in terms that were different
WEP5VAouu3c-00571-00168903-00169281 from others he was not a child to them
WEP5VAouu3c-00572-00169282-00169664 he was a problem to be solved he was the
WEP5VAouu3c-00573-00169665-00169881 only black boy in his grade everybody
WEP5VAouu3c-00574-00169882-00170315 else was white but it was when his
WEP5VAouu3c-00575-00170316-00170576 teacher started to talk about special ed
WEP5VAouu3c-00576-00170577-00170793 and at the time I had no idea what
WEP5VAouu3c-00577-00170794-00171009 special ed meant but apparently they
WEP5VAouu3c-00578-00171010-00171156 thought that he needed something called
WEP5VAouu3c-00579-00171157-00171474 special ed and so my brother-in-law his
WEP5VAouu3c-00580-00171475-00171699 father I decided to go in and talk to
WEP5VAouu3c-00581-00171700-00171993 the principal and I should say as an
WEP5VAouu3c-00582-00171994-00172332 aside that my nephew likes to joke now
WEP5VAouu3c-00583-00172333-00172785 about how when he was 6 years old
WEP5VAouu3c-00584-00172786-00173220 I was teaching him long division I don't
WEP5VAouu3c-00585-00173221-00173360 know what is it called in the US so you
WEP5VAouu3c-00586-00173361-00173531 know the division we yeah long division
WEP5VAouu3c-00587-00173532-00173859 because because I'm because I'm an
WEP5VAouu3c-00588-00173860-00174021 African immigrant and I sort of feel
WEP5VAouu3c-00589-00174022-00174147 like you should know your long division
WEP5VAouu3c-00590-00174148-00174672 when you're five years old and so this
WEP5VAouu3c-00591-00174673-00174854 was a this was a child who was bright
WEP5VAouu3c-00592-00174855-00175016 and he learned really quickly but he
WEP5VAouu3c-00593-00175017-00175170 tells me now as an adult it's like
WEP5VAouu3c-00594-00175171-00175434 auntie that was not appropriate but but
WEP5VAouu3c-00595-00175435-00175589 but what I said to him is well you did
WEP5VAouu3c-00596-00175590-00175773 learn it right and you did do well in
WEP5VAouu3c-00597-00175774-00176007 math but anyway so my brother-in-law
WEP5VAouu3c-00598-00176008-00176459 went in to speak to the principal and my
WEP5VAouu3c-00599-00176460-00176820 brother in law wanted to ask why why
WEP5VAouu3c-00600-00176821-00177089 does why does my child complain about
WEP5VAouu3c-00601-00177090-00177345 other children doing the same thing
WEP5VAouu3c-00602-00177346-00177674 talking not being still and but he is
WEP5VAouu3c-00603-00177675-00177860 the child who always gets singled up
WEP5VAouu3c-00604-00177861-00178298 singled out and the principal said to my
WEP5VAouu3c-00605-00178299-00178584 brother in law when we look at him we
WEP5VAouu3c-00606-00178585-00178902 don't see any difference
WEP5VAouu3c-00607-00178903-00179146 now my nephew was not just the only
WEP5VAouu3c-00608-00179147-00179485 black boy in his grade his dark-skinned
WEP5VAouu3c-00609-00179486-00179815 he's easily distinguishable he's not in
WEP5VAouu3c-00610-00179816-00180402 any way racially and because now he
WEP5VAouu3c-00611-00180403-00180589 telling the story I'm reminded of
WEP5VAouu3c-00612-00180590-00180772 something that happened more recently a
WEP5VAouu3c-00613-00180773-00181128 friend of mine moved from from England
WEP5VAouu3c-00614-00181129-00181351 to come to the u.s. to teach for a
WEP5VAouu3c-00615-00181352-00181624 little bit and this is a teaching
WEP5VAouu3c-00616-00181625-00181890 college and he said that at the first
WEP5VAouu3c-00617-00181891-00182091 faculty orientation meeting that they
WEP5VAouu3c-00618-00182092-00182407 had he expected to be told about you
WEP5VAouu3c-00619-00182408-00182729 know academic rigor and making sure that
WEP5VAouu3c-00620-00182730-00183145 that no exam policy or something but he
WEP5VAouu3c-00621-00183146-00183376 said the emphasis of the meeting was to
WEP5VAouu3c-00622-00183377-00183574 tell the instructors to make sure that
WEP5VAouu3c-00623-00183575-00183808 their students were never made to feel
WEP5VAouu3c-00624-00183809-00184150 uncomfortable and he was surprised by
WEP5VAouu3c-00625-00184151-00184578 this now I understand the good
WEP5VAouu3c-00626-00184579-00184807 intentions behind that idea of keeping
WEP5VAouu3c-00627-00184808-00185020 everyone comfortable which which is a
WEP5VAouu3c-00628-00185021-00185707 particularly American idea but I think
WEP5VAouu3c-00629-00185708-00185865 it's important to make peace with
WEP5VAouu3c-00630-00185866-00186151 discomfort there's something perverse
WEP5VAouu3c-00631-00186152-00186451 about expecting always to be comfortable
WEP5VAouu3c-00632-00186452-00186871 life is messy sometimes discomfort opens
WEP5VAouu3c-00633-00186872-00187156 us up to growth and to knowledge and to
WEP5VAouu3c-00634-00187157-00187404 meaning and it's especially relevant
WEP5VAouu3c-00635-00187405-00187696 today in America in a country with deep
WEP5VAouu3c-00636-00187697-00187890 political divisions I think it's
WEP5VAouu3c-00637-00187891-00188251 impossible to engage honestly without
WEP5VAouu3c-00638-00188252-00188754 some discomfort what that principle in
WEP5VAouu3c-00639-00188755-00189039 Connecticut was was doing that day with
WEP5VAouu3c-00640-00189040-00189240 my brother-in-law is that he was
WEP5VAouu3c-00641-00189241-00189835 choosing comfort over truth because to
WEP5VAouu3c-00642-00189836-00190027 acknowledge the truth which is that my
WEP5VAouu3c-00643-00190028-00190375 nephew of course was different would be
WEP5VAouu3c-00644-00190376-00190669 to ask why all the kids do something and
WEP5VAouu3c-00645-00190670-00190882 one child is singled out over and over
WEP5VAouu3c-00646-00190883-00191086 and that child happens to be at the
WEP5VAouu3c-00647-00191087-00191425 black child acknowledging it would also
WEP5VAouu3c-00648-00191426-00191865 mean having to ask does the fact that
WEP5VAouu3c-00649-00191866-00192168 the teachers are nothing like him have
WEP5VAouu3c-00650-00192169-00192345 anything to do with his being singled
WEP5VAouu3c-00651-00192346-00192477 out over and over again
WEP5VAouu3c-00652-00192478-00192834 of course teachers who do not look like
WEP5VAouu3c-00653-00192835-00193188 you can be wonderful for you but the
WEP5VAouu3c-00654-00193189-00193398 truth is that teachers are human beings
WEP5VAouu3c-00655-00193399-00193737 who bring to their jobs as we all do the
WEP5VAouu3c-00656-00193738-00193899 totality of their own particular
WEP5VAouu3c-00657-00193900-00194268 experience and I then and teachers
WEP5VAouu3c-00658-00194269-00194418 naturally come to expect what they
WEP5VAouu3c-00659-00194419-00194817 themselves experienced and it leads to
WEP5VAouu3c-00660-00194818-00195060 an expectation from teachers that the
WEP5VAouu3c-00661-00195061-00195249 child's family must do things a
WEP5VAouu3c-00662-00195250-00195543 particular way but things that are
WEP5VAouu3c-00663-00195544-00195699 important to a teacher might not
WEP5VAouu3c-00664-00195700-00195885 necessarily be important to a child's
WEP5VAouu3c-00665-00195886-00196248 family if a child's family doesn't
WEP5VAouu3c-00666-00196249-00196602 experience school as a teacher did then
WEP5VAouu3c-00667-00196603-00196758 that teacher is likely to judge the
WEP5VAouu3c-00668-00196759-00197091 family so if a teacher grew up with
WEP5VAouu3c-00669-00197092-00197322 parents who diligently signed those
WEP5VAouu3c-00670-00197323-00197598 forms that you get in a nice folder in
WEP5VAouu3c-00671-00197599-00198123 your backpack and the child doesn't that
WEP5VAouu3c-00672-00198124-00198468 teacher is likely to feel a certain kind
WEP5VAouu3c-00673-00198469-00198801 of way about it I I want to tell a story
WEP5VAouu3c-00674-00198802-00199215 about a woman I met in a bookstore I got
WEP5VAouu3c-00675-00199216-00199473 in to look at children's books I have a
WEP5VAouu3c-00676-00199474-00199791 three-year-old actually almost
WEP5VAouu3c-00677-00199792-00199962 three-year-old she's three in two weeks
WEP5VAouu3c-00678-00199963-00200397 and I'm beyond excited but she but even
WEP5VAouu3c-00679-00200398-00200628 before even before I had I had her I
WEP5VAouu3c-00680-00200629-00200769 would often go in to buy children's
WEP5VAouu3c-00681-00200770-00200910 books because I have nephews and nieces
WEP5VAouu3c-00682-00200911-00201183 and I'm and and I'm the auntie who's
WEP5VAouu3c-00683-00201184-00201342 involved in everybody's life and who
WEP5VAouu3c-00684-00201343-00201624 sort of gets in their business and so I
WEP5VAouu3c-00685-00201625-00201837 was in a bookstore talking and I and I
WEP5VAouu3c-00686-00201838-00201984 and there's a woman in the bookstore and
WEP5VAouu3c-00687-00201985-00202242 I was talking to her about how I was
WEP5VAouu3c-00688-00202243-00202389 having a difficult time finding
WEP5VAouu3c-00689-00202390-00202629 children's books early children's books
WEP5VAouu3c-00690-00202630-00203133 that had black characters actually to be
WEP5VAouu3c-00691-00203134-00203319 completely honest in the storytelling I
WEP5VAouu3c-00692-00203320-00203550 had first said diverse characters and
WEP5VAouu3c-00693-00203551-00203688 then I thought I needed to be clear
WEP5VAouu3c-00694-00203689-00203985 because even that can be very murky when
WEP5VAouu3c-00695-00203986-00204273 we talk about sometimes it's important I
WEP5VAouu3c-00696-00204274-00204534 think to unpack what we mean by diverse
WEP5VAouu3c-00697-00204535-00204744 so I said very clearly that I wanted to
WEP5VAouu3c-00698-00204745-00204989 find books that had black children
WEP5VAouu3c-00699-00204990-00205310 and because the the books that didn't
WEP5VAouu3c-00700-00205311-00205442 have them there mostly had animal
WEP5VAouu3c-00701-00205444-00205619 characters but the the ones that didn't
WEP5VAouu3c-00702-00205621-00205991 had white children as she was very
WEP5VAouu3c-00703-00205992-00206277 sympathetic and she said yes I see why
WEP5VAouu3c-00704-00206278-00206594 you would want books like that her
WEP5VAouu3c-00705-00206596-00206891 emphasis was on you as though she
WEP5VAouu3c-00706-00206892-00207041 herself did not think this was
WEP5VAouu3c-00707-00207042-00207440 particularly important for her I think
WEP5VAouu3c-00708-00207441-00207627 there's something wonderful and
WEP5VAouu3c-00709-00207628-00207881 affirming about reading about your
WEP5VAouu3c-00710-00207882-00208152 reality and reading what is familiar and
WEP5VAouu3c-00711-00208153-00208412 seen yourself reflected in fiction and
WEP5VAouu3c-00712-00208413-00208685 in literature and that particular
WEP5VAouu3c-00713-00208686-00208966 pleasure should never be denied anyone
WEP5VAouu3c-00714-00208967-00209255 but it is equally important to read
WEP5VAouu3c-00715-00209256-00209531 about people who are not like you if for
WEP5VAouu3c-00716-00209532-00209690 anything then because the world is not
WEP5VAouu3c-00717-00209691-00210094 full of people like you I wished that
WEP5VAouu3c-00718-00210096-00210359 that woman had also considered it
WEP5VAouu3c-00719-00210360-00210842 important for herself to have children's
WEP5VAouu3c-00720-00210844-00210990 books in which the characters are
WEP5VAouu3c-00721-00210991-00211235 diverse to have white children and black
WEP5VAouu3c-00722-00211236-00211508 children and Asian children and Hispanic
WEP5VAouu3c-00723-00211509-00211764 children and and children who who were
WEP5VAouu3c-00724-00211765-00212108 different in all kinds of ways because
WEP5VAouu3c-00725-00212109-00212298 if she reads diverse books to her
WEP5VAouu3c-00726-00212298-00212471 children then she's preparing them
WEP5VAouu3c-00727-00212473-00212717 hopefully for a world in which their
WEP5VAouu3c-00728-00212719-00212978 conception of people is wider and
WEP5VAouu3c-00729-00212979-00213369 healthier I like to think of myself as a
WEP5VAouu3c-00730-00213369-00213726 lifelong student and I do not really
WEP5VAouu3c-00731-00213727-00214004 want to read about people who do not
WEP5VAouu3c-00732-00214005-00214248 look like me but I also want to hear
WEP5VAouu3c-00733-00214248-00214617 even people I disagree with and so for
WEP5VAouu3c-00734-00214617-00214776 example even though my politics are
WEP5VAouu3c-00735-00214777-00215148 left-leaning I subscribe to The Wall
WEP5VAouu3c-00736-00215148-00215376 Street Journal which is decidedly not
WEP5VAouu3c-00737-00215377-00215542 left-leaning
WEP5VAouu3c-00738-00215544-00215838 and I deliberately seek out and I want
WEP5VAouu3c-00739-00215839-00216035 to learn how people who do not see the
WEP5VAouu3c-00740-00216036-00216130 world as I do
WEP5VAouu3c-00741-00216131-00216434 think because I think it helps me better
WEP5VAouu3c-00742-00216435-00216902 able to understand the world the content
WEP5VAouu3c-00743-00216903-00217184 of Education matters it's not enough to
WEP5VAouu3c-00744-00217185-00217355 be educated it's it's important also to
WEP5VAouu3c-00745-00217356-00217556 talk about the content of our education
WEP5VAouu3c-00746-00217557-00217835 I think very often for example that
WEP5VAouu3c-00747-00217836-00218060 until Galileo put up his telescope to
WEP5VAouu3c-00748-00218061-00218337 look at the sky in the in the Great and
WEP5VAouu3c-00749-00218338-00218514 grand universities across Europe
WEP5VAouu3c-00750-00218515-00218664 students were being taught of the
WEP5VAouu3c-00751-00218665-00218807 heavens where this sort of perfect
WEP5VAouu3c-00752-00218808-00219063 arrangement of beautiful layers of I
WEP5VAouu3c-00753-00219064-00219452 don't know gold and silver and and also
WEP5VAouu3c-00754-00219453-00219653 in thinking about the the education that
WEP5VAouu3c-00755-00219654-00219974 happened in the colonized parts of
WEP5VAouu3c-00756-00219975-00220292 Africa and Asia and Latin America is to
WEP5VAouu3c-00757-00220294-00220457 realize that education often meant
WEP5VAouu3c-00758-00220458-00220748 teaching the so-called natives self-hate
WEP5VAouu3c-00759-00220750-00221078 and it is not surprising in talking to
WEP5VAouu3c-00760-00221079-00221369 many older people in in these parts of
WEP5VAouu3c-00761-00221371-00221534 the world in Nigeria for example that
WEP5VAouu3c-00762-00221535-00221735 they often have very disturbing views of
WEP5VAouu3c-00763-00221736-00221909 their own history and it's a result of
WEP5VAouu3c-00764-00221910-00222246 the education that they had and I was
WEP5VAouu3c-00765-00222246-00222537 recently reading about Hillary Clinton
WEP5VAouu3c-00766-00222538-00222746 being wiped out of books in one
WEP5VAouu3c-00767-00222748-00223046 particular state in the u.s. so there is
WEP5VAouu3c-00768-00223048-00223767 also magical thinking going on so it's
WEP5VAouu3c-00769-00223767-00223904 not enough to have an education the
WEP5VAouu3c-00770-00223905-00224108 content matters and books should have a
WEP5VAouu3c-00771-00224109-00224313 range of people and the reason book
WEP5VAouu3c-00772-00224314-00224627 should have a range of people is not
WEP5VAouu3c-00773-00224628-00224814 because we want to be politically
WEP5VAouu3c-00774-00224815-00225012 correct but because we want to be
WEP5VAouu3c-00775-00225013-00225299 accurate you cannot understand the world
WEP5VAouu3c-00776-00225300-00225492 if you know only about a fraction of the
WEP5VAouu3c-00777-00225492-00226175 world in small town Connecticut
WEP5VAouu3c-00778-00226176-00226499 my nephew finally left that school and
WEP5VAouu3c-00779-00226500-00227033 went to another school in middles not if
WEP5VAouu3c-00780-00227034-00227177 so it wasn't small town he was sort of
WEP5VAouu3c-00781-00227178-00227629 not very small-town Connecticut and I
WEP5VAouu3c-00782-00227630-00227909 was thinking should I name names but I
WEP5VAouu3c-00783-00227910-00228092 thought this is not a good place to name
WEP5VAouu3c-00784-00228094-00228269 names because I feel like somebody will
WEP5VAouu3c-00785-00228271-00228446 figure out and then write you know she
WEP5VAouu3c-00786-00228448-00229007 said the people in Connecticut because
WEP5VAouu3c-00787-00229008-00229244 also I don't I think I'm only using my
WEP5VAouu3c-00788-00229246-00229467 examples I think to talk about a larger
WEP5VAouu3c-00789-00229467-00229648 and what I think is a larger phenomenon
WEP5VAouu3c-00790-00229650-00229850 but when my nephew moved to another
WEP5VAouu3c-00791-00229851-00230042 school I came to see that there's a
WEP5VAouu3c-00792-00230044-00230375 fundamental unfairness that is embedded
WEP5VAouu3c-00793-00230376-00230523 in the structure of American public
WEP5VAouu3c-00794-00230523-00231017 education because of property taxes all
WEP5VAouu3c-00795-00231019-00231342 public education is not equal it should
WEP5VAouu3c-00796-00231342-00231732 be but it's not
WEP5VAouu3c-00797-00231733-00231971 and I think it's important to
WEP5VAouu3c-00798-00231971-00232163 acknowledge that because then we have to
WEP5VAouu3c-00799-00232164-00232394 question America's claim to having a
WEP5VAouu3c-00800-00232394-00232840 system that is purely meritocratic I
WEP5VAouu3c-00801-00232841-00233209 also came to understand from observing
WEP5VAouu3c-00802-00233210-00233503 my nephew's experience that in America
WEP5VAouu3c-00803-00233504-00233942 sometimes race becomes class or as a
WEP5VAouu3c-00804-00233942-00234235 friend of mine recently puts it they see
WEP5VAouu3c-00805-00234236-00234425 the black child and they immediately
WEP5VAouu3c-00806-00234426-00234823 think title one by the way when that
WEP5VAouu3c-00807-00234825-00234965 when my friend said that I had no idea
WEP5VAouu3c-00808-00234966-00235190 what title one meant Sochi it was sort
WEP5VAouu3c-00809-00235191-00235337 of an opportunity for me to get an
WEP5VAouu3c-00810-00235338-00235691 education this friend who uh she lives
WEP5VAouu3c-00811-00235692-00236198 here who lives in Maryland had problems
WEP5VAouu3c-00812-00236198-00236414 with her child's school and she said
WEP5VAouu3c-00813-00236415-00236659 that they couldn't see anything past his
WEP5VAouu3c-00814-00236660-00236932 blackness and that there was often the
WEP5VAouu3c-00815-00236933-00237103 automatic assumption that he had come
WEP5VAouu3c-00816-00237104-00237309 from an economically and educationally
WEP5VAouu3c-00817-00237310-00237667 deprived background but both his parents
WEP5VAouu3c-00818-00237669-00237985 Nigerian immigrants were physicians and
WEP5VAouu3c-00819-00237986-00238279 he made me think about how many black
WEP5VAouu3c-00820-00238280-00238567 and brown children how many poor
WEP5VAouu3c-00821-00238569-00238814 children of any race who has seen in
WEP5VAouu3c-00822-00238815-00239077 terms only of their need who grow up
WEP5VAouu3c-00823-00239078-00239351 with their dignity eroded because there
WEP5VAouu3c-00824-00239352-00239548 were not seen as full human beings but
WEP5VAouu3c-00825-00239550-00240013 only as a single thing a person in need
WEP5VAouu3c-00826-00240014-00240328 now this the same friend of mine
WEP5VAouu3c-00827-00240329-00240648 the Nigerian immigrant who's a physician
WEP5VAouu3c-00828-00240650-00241027 has children who I think it's fair to
WEP5VAouu3c-00829-00241028-00241492 say and not meek or mild mannered and
WEP5VAouu3c-00830-00241492-00241919 she said that her son would often that a
WEP5VAouu3c-00831-00241919-00242144 teacher had said about her son he's so
WEP5VAouu3c-00832-00242144-00242698 rough and I think saying his so Roth is
WEP5VAouu3c-00833-00242700-00242953 one way of thinking about him but then
WEP5VAouu3c-00834-00242954-00243205 there's another way which is he's
WEP5VAouu3c-00835-00243206-00243505 assertive and confident now I'm not
WEP5VAouu3c-00836-00243506-00243735 suggesting that we excuse bad behavior
WEP5VAouu3c-00837-00243736-00243994 that behavior should never be excused
WEP5VAouu3c-00838-00243996-00244214 and actually I have a have a little
WEP5VAouu3c-00839-00244215-00244426 confession to make which is that there
WEP5VAouu3c-00840-00244427-00244648 is a certain informality in American
WEP5VAouu3c-00841-00244650-00244898 schools between instructor and
WEP5VAouu3c-00842-00244898-00245142 struck Ted that I'm not very keen on
WEP5VAouu3c-00843-00245144-00245363 because I think it sometimes blurs the
WEP5VAouu3c-00844-00245364-00245654 lines and enables bad behavior in
WEP5VAouu3c-00845-00245655-00245873 students but again I am an African
WEP5VAouu3c-00846-00245873-00246137 immigrant and I came from a very strict
WEP5VAouu3c-00847-00246138-00246485 school system the point I want to make
WEP5VAouu3c-00848-00246486-00246748 about bad behavior is that it is
WEP5VAouu3c-00849-00246750-00246977 important to be clear about when we are
WEP5VAouu3c-00850-00246978-00247226 sanctioning the behavior and when we are
WEP5VAouu3c-00851-00247227-00247460 sanctioning not so much the behavior but
WEP5VAouu3c-00852-00247461-00247873 the body exhibiting that behavior and
WEP5VAouu3c-00853-00247873-00248321 here's another story about a woman I
WEP5VAouu3c-00854-00248321-00248585 don't do very well but I met her my my
WEP5VAouu3c-00855-00248586-00248951 daughter's day care and she told me a
WEP5VAouu3c-00856-00248952-00249292 story about her son in daycare so he's
WEP5VAouu3c-00857-00249294-00249571 three and a half four maybe and he's
WEP5VAouu3c-00858-00249573-00249746 playing with another child her son is
WEP5VAouu3c-00859-00249746-00250004 black had sons friend is white and then
WEP5VAouu3c-00860-00250005-00250192 she drops in to visit the class and
WEP5VAouu3c-00861-00250194-00250391 they're playing in the Science Centre
WEP5VAouu3c-00862-00250392-00250730 and the teacher says to the the white
WEP5VAouu3c-00863-00250731-00250948 child oh that's so good you're going to
WEP5VAouu3c-00864-00250950-00251240 be a scientist and then later says to
WEP5VAouu3c-00865-00251241-00251446 her son oh that's so good you're going
WEP5VAouu3c-00866-00251448-00251828 to be a mechanic and she said that she
WEP5VAouu3c-00867-00251829-00252050 got very upset and she spoke to the
WEP5VAouu3c-00868-00252051-00252248 teacher about it later and the teacher
WEP5VAouu3c-00869-00252248-00252460 got very upset and said she hadn't meant
WEP5VAouu3c-00870-00252461-00252760 anything bad and at the end both of them
WEP5VAouu3c-00871-00252761-00253079 were in tears and something had gone
WEP5VAouu3c-00872-00253080-00253360 wrong there I think both of them were
WEP5VAouu3c-00873-00253361-00253721 sincere but they were not hearing the
WEP5VAouu3c-00874-00253721-00253988 same thing it was almost as though
WEP5VAouu3c-00875-00253989-00254273 listening to her in my imagination they
WEP5VAouu3c-00876-00254273-00254591 were were inhabiting two walls that were
WEP5VAouu3c-00877-00254592-00255014 not intersecting how do we bridge those
WEP5VAouu3c-00878-00255015-00255341 two walls and we must breach them if
WEP5VAouu3c-00879-00255342-00255667 public education is to succeed maybe
WEP5VAouu3c-00880-00255669-00255953 maybe if the teacher saw the context of
WEP5VAouu3c-00881-00255954-00256229 the child and his history as a black boy
WEP5VAouu3c-00882-00256230-00256457 in a country that has systematically
WEP5VAouu3c-00883-00256458-00256715 broken the dreams of black people a
WEP5VAouu3c-00884-00256716-00257000 country that has made non black people
WEP5VAouu3c-00885-00257001-00257173 think of black people in stereotypical
WEP5VAouu3c-00886-00257175-00257596 ways it takes a willingness to be
WEP5VAouu3c-00887-00257598-00257835 uncomfortable and it takes courage and
WEP5VAouu3c-00888-00257836-00258356 it's not easy but I think it's worth it
WEP5VAouu3c-00889-00258357-00258644 if we are to mold a generation of people
WEP5VAouu3c-00890-00258646-00258861 who will be better and who will do
WEP5VAouu3c-00891-00258862-00259200 better than we have we need to broaden
WEP5VAouu3c-00892-00259201-00259527 and widen our conception of how things
WEP5VAouu3c-00893-00259528-00259836 are and of how things should be a child
WEP5VAouu3c-00894-00259837-00260117 is an ephah single thing a child whose
WEP5VAouu3c-00895-00260119-00260337 family doesn't sign all those nice forms
WEP5VAouu3c-00896-00260338-00260607 in the folder in her backpack can also
WEP5VAouu3c-00897-00260608-00260889 be a child who is loved and cared for it
WEP5VAouu3c-00898-00260890-00261117 may merely be that the child's parents
WEP5VAouu3c-00899-00261117-00261410 don't really know how the system works a
WEP5VAouu3c-00900-00261411-00261783 child who fails a test can also be a
WEP5VAouu3c-00901-00261784-00261969 very intelligent child who needs to
WEP5VAouu3c-00902-00261969-00262260 learn in a different way I know how many
WEP5VAouu3c-00903-00262261-00262515 times I sat bored to death in class
WEP5VAouu3c-00904-00262516-00262866 because I didn't feel challenged maybe
WEP5VAouu3c-00905-00262867-00263091 we need to ask real questions about
WEP5VAouu3c-00906-00263092-00263334 teachers and who becomes a teacher and
WEP5VAouu3c-00907-00263335-00263592 who gets hired how is the recruiting
WEP5VAouu3c-00908-00263593-00263897 done I was thinking recently of of
WEP5VAouu3c-00909-00263898-00264194 Maryland which is my American home and
WEP5VAouu3c-00910-00264195-00264507 wondering if teachers are recruited from
WEP5VAouu3c-00911-00264508-00264816 the historically black colleges and if
WEP5VAouu3c-00912-00264817-00265029 they I recruited do people think of
WEP5VAouu3c-00913-00265030-00265269 things like transportation because I
WEP5VAouu3c-00914-00265270-00265488 think when you're a student and you're
WEP5VAouu3c-00915-00265489-00265623 doing your student teaching in your
WEP5VAouu3c-00916-00265624-00265818 fourth year and you don't have a car and
WEP5VAouu3c-00917-00265819-00266010 this in the school is very far away then
WEP5VAouu3c-00918-00266011-00266175 it becomes almost impossible for you to
WEP5VAouu3c-00919-00266176-00266373 do it and without the student teaching
WEP5VAouu3c-00920-00266374-00266535 experience you're not likely to get
WEP5VAouu3c-00921-00266536-00266772 hired in the sorts of schools where
WEP5VAouu3c-00922-00266773-00267237 maybe your presence is needed I think we
WEP5VAouu3c-00923-00267238-00267486 also need to question how we define who
WEP5VAouu3c-00924-00267487-00267881 belongs and who doesn't belong I
WEP5VAouu3c-00925-00267882-00268140 remember once a friend of mine saying
WEP5VAouu3c-00926-00268141-00268410 that a teacher wasn't a good fit at her
WEP5VAouu3c-00927-00268411-00268827 child's school this friend by the way is
WEP5VAouu3c-00928-00268828-00269001 black and she's talking about a teacher
WEP5VAouu3c-00929-00269002-00269277 who is also black the teacher had an
WEP5VAouu3c-00930-00269278-00269613 inner-city accent now the teacher spoke
WEP5VAouu3c-00931-00269614-00269817 English perfectly her grammar was fine
WEP5VAouu3c-00932-00269818-00270003 but apparently shared an inner city
WEP5VAouu3c-00933-00270004-00270198 accent and so it had been decided that
WEP5VAouu3c-00934-00270199-00270588 she wasn't a good fit and that made me
WEP5VAouu3c-00935-00270589-00270873 wonder how do we define good fit what
WEP5VAouu3c-00936-00270874-00271200 determines good fit and will children
WEP5VAouu3c-00937-00271201-00271482 benefit from hearing somebody who speaks
WEP5VAouu3c-00938-00271483-00271644 in a way that's different
WEP5VAouu3c-00939-00271645-00272373 I it also made me think that what was in
WEP5VAouu3c-00940-00272374-00272865 question her accent was itself a
WEP5VAouu3c-00941-00272866-00273189 consequence of structural exclusion and
WEP5VAouu3c-00942-00273190-00273560 public education has a moral duty and a
WEP5VAouu3c-00943-00273561-00273797 civic duty to start to dismantle that
WEP5VAouu3c-00944-00273798-00274221 structural exclusion we need to remember
WEP5VAouu3c-00945-00274222-00274556 that students are not employees and
WEP5VAouu3c-00946-00274557-00274808 schools are not corporations and the
WEP5VAouu3c-00947-00274809-00274995 point of education is not to maximize
WEP5VAouu3c-00948-00274996-00275872 profit it is to maximize human potential
WEP5VAouu3c-00949-00275873-00276109 [Applause]
WEP5VAouu3c-00950-00276110-00276508 I've always kind of liked that okay and
WEP5VAouu3c-00951-00276509-00276734 and I think it's also important to
WEP5VAouu3c-00952-00276735-00277091 remember that the human potential is
WEP5VAouu3c-00953-00277092-00277527 beautiful gloriously messy
WEP5VAouu3c-00954-00277528-00277788 inchoate things that can never have one
WEP5VAouu3c-00955-00277789-00277989 single solution and that there are many
WEP5VAouu3c-00956-00277990-00278731 many solutions and thank you
WEP5VAouu3c-00957-00278732-00280043 [Applause]
WEP5VAouu3c-00958-00280044-00282103 so I'd like to welcome crystal Brown
WEP5VAouu3c-00959-00282104-00282488 well what do we say after that thank you
WEP5VAouu3c-00960-00282489-00282887 so much for such inspiring and
WEP5VAouu3c-00961-00282888-00283057 thoughtful words can we please just
WEP5VAouu3c-00962-00283058-00283969 another round of applause so I know that
WEP5VAouu3c-00963-00283970-00284191 we are very eager to hear more from you
WEP5VAouu3c-00964-00284192-00284491 and we have some questions from our live
WEP5VAouu3c-00965-00284492-00284813 stream audience so let's go ahead and
WEP5VAouu3c-00966-00284814-00285426 get started okay so the first question
WEP5VAouu3c-00967-00285427-00285739 your writing and your personal story
WEP5VAouu3c-00968-00285740-00286084 really suggests that understanding other
WEP5VAouu3c-00969-00286085-00286435 cultures broadens individual perspective
WEP5VAouu3c-00970-00286436-00286714 and ultimately changes a person for the
WEP5VAouu3c-00971-00286715-00286794 better
WEP5VAouu3c-00972-00286795-00287063 what do you think today's students and
WEP5VAouu3c-00973-00287064-00287431 educators need to thrive is informed and
WEP5VAouu3c-00974-00287432-00288018 engaged world citizens I have no idea
WEP5VAouu3c-00975-00288019-00288512 but you have some thought I think I
WEP5VAouu3c-00976-00288513-00288712 think many of the things I talked about
WEP5VAouu3c-00977-00288713-00288940 already I think there needs to be a much
WEP5VAouu3c-00978-00288941-00289359 broader understanding of what matters
WEP5VAouu3c-00979-00289360-00289696 the book should be and I think also even
WEP5VAouu3c-00980-00289697-00290146 just that I think it's not just that we
WEP5VAouu3c-00981-00290147-00290387 need diversity it's also important to
WEP5VAouu3c-00982-00290388-00290539 think about how we think about diversity
WEP5VAouu3c-00983-00290540-00290716 because sometimes I think in this
WEP5VAouu3c-00984-00290717-00290941 country when people talk about it it's
WEP5VAouu3c-00985-00290942-00291268 it's almost done as though it's sort of
WEP5VAouu3c-00986-00291269-00291777 a favor but I think it's a necessity and
WEP5VAouu3c-00987-00291778-00292045 and just in thinking practically about
WEP5VAouu3c-00988-00292046-00292222 education especially in a wall that's
WEP5VAouu3c-00989-00292223-00292531 becoming so much more globalized so much
WEP5VAouu3c-00990-00292532-00292696 smaller in many ways because of
WEP5VAouu3c-00991-00292697-00292983 technology that it's important to just
WEP5VAouu3c-00992-00292984-00293326 have a sense of the wall to open
WEP5VAouu3c-00993-00293327-00293542 students up to all kinds of things and
WEP5VAouu3c-00994-00293543-00293794 and to think about how they're thinking
WEP5VAouu3c-00995-00293795-00293944 about those things
WEP5VAouu3c-00996-00293945-00294253 I for example think that obviously the
WEP5VAouu3c-00997-00294254-00294475 the whole point of minority populations
WEP5VAouu3c-00998-00294476-00294697 is that they're not that that
WEP5VAouu3c-00999-00294698-00294937 numerically they're smaller so of course
WEP5VAouu3c-01000-00294938-00295039 they're going to be areas in this
WEP5VAouu3c-01001-00295040-00295309 country where you don't have many black
WEP5VAouu3c-01002-00295310-00295455 students or many Hispanic
WEP5VAouu3c-01003-00295456-00295932 students on many Asian students but but
WEP5VAouu3c-01004-00295933-00296163 what matters is how have those students
WEP5VAouu3c-01005-00296164-00296367 who don't see minority students how do
WEP5VAouu3c-01006-00296368-00296610 they think of them right and I think
WEP5VAouu3c-01007-00296611-00296751 that's what education can accomplish
WEP5VAouu3c-01008-00296752-00297005 that we can humanize other people and
WEP5VAouu3c-01009-00297006-00297645 not think of people as single things so
WEP5VAouu3c-01010-00297646-00298070 when you spoke you talked a lot about
WEP5VAouu3c-01011-00298071-00298491 just different examples to that as a
WEP5VAouu3c-01012-00298492-00298884 youth what were the questions that you
WEP5VAouu3c-01013-00298885-00299169 carried inside of you but rarely ever
WEP5VAouu3c-01014-00299170-00299412 had the opportunity to explore or
WEP5VAouu3c-01015-00299413-00300129 discuss oh there are many I still have
WEP5VAouu3c-01016-00300130-00300315 many of those questions I think I think
WEP5VAouu3c-01017-00300316-00300483 the thing about when I was a teenager is
WEP5VAouu3c-01018-00300484-00300792 I suppose like many teenagers I was I
WEP5VAouu3c-01019-00300793-00300930 think I was a difficult teenager it was
WEP5VAouu3c-01020-00300931-00301043 moody um
WEP5VAouu3c-01021-00301044-00301344 for no reason
WEP5VAouu3c-01022-00301345-00301539 also II know you were know a there's a
WEP5VAouu3c-01023-00301540-00301908 kindergartener yeah but but also a I
WEP5VAouu3c-01024-00301909-00302196 kind of felt that adults didn't I just
WEP5VAouu3c-01025-00302197-00302607 felt that dolls didn't know anything and
WEP5VAouu3c-01026-00302608-00302778 I felt like I knew it all and they just
WEP5VAouu3c-01027-00302779-00303081 didn't want to hear me no but I but
WEP5VAouu3c-01028-00303082-00303336 really I had I often had exist almost
WEP5VAouu3c-01029-00303337-00303564 existential questions I remember I grew
WEP5VAouu3c-01030-00303565-00303855 up Roman Catholic and my family was you
WEP5VAouu3c-01031-00303856-00304056 know moderately sort of religious and I
WEP5VAouu3c-01032-00304057-00304359 loved going to mass and but I had
WEP5VAouu3c-01033-00304360-00304566 questions about you know just the nature
WEP5VAouu3c-01034-00304567-00304860 of things why I had many wise right I'd
WEP5VAouu3c-01035-00304861-00305100 say well and why does why does it why is
WEP5VAouu3c-01036-00305101-00305277 it baby born and the baby dies what's
WEP5VAouu3c-01037-00305278-00305597 the point I mean I had questions about
WEP5VAouu3c-01038-00305598-00305889 people who just by accident of birth
WEP5VAouu3c-01039-00305890-00306275 your entire destiny is is almost
WEP5VAouu3c-01040-00306276-00306486 predetermined I had questions to
WEP5VAouu3c-01041-00306487-00306711 questions like that and I just felt that
WEP5VAouu3c-01042-00306712-00306867 growing up I didn't really have much
WEP5VAouu3c-01043-00306868-00307368 room to have them answered I still have
WEP5VAouu3c-01044-00307369-00307527 those questions if anybody has their
WEP5VAouu3c-01045-00307528-00307821 answers I want to do a follow-up to that
WEP5VAouu3c-01046-00307822-00308235 then how do you think students today can
WEP5VAouu3c-01047-00308236-00308499 connect to that innate curiosity
WEP5VAouu3c-01048-00308500-00308820 that you talk about um I think reading
WEP5VAouu3c-01049-00308821-00309162 I'm such a believer in in the power and
WEP5VAouu3c-01050-00309163-00309528 the wonder of reading you know reading
WEP5VAouu3c-01051-00309529-00310074 widely reading and this is probably I
WEP5VAouu3c-01052-00310075-00310230 was going to say this is what I say
WEP5VAouu3c-01053-00310231-00310380 often but I'm not this is not the best
WEP5VAouu3c-01054-00310381-00310560 place to say but really I don't mean
WEP5VAouu3c-01055-00310561-00310758 reading for school I don't mean the sort
WEP5VAouu3c-01056-00310759-00310961 of thing you have to read for school I
WEP5VAouu3c-01057-00310962-00311154 don't mean reading the things in the
WEP5VAouu3c-01058-00311155-00311334 curricula right so usually when I go to
WEP5VAouu3c-01059-00311335-00311538 speak to students and I asked them what
WEP5VAouu3c-01060-00311539-00311706 what novel have you most recently read
WEP5VAouu3c-01061-00311707-00311895 there like a Catcher in the Rye and I
WEP5VAouu3c-01062-00311896-00312084 think yes that's because you had to read
WEP5VAouu3c-01063-00312085-00312246 it for it you know your literature class
WEP5VAouu3c-01064-00312247-00312681 but I think reading is important and I
WEP5VAouu3c-01065-00312682-00312813 think it's it's really important to
WEP5VAouu3c-01066-00312814-00313068 start early to encourage it as something
WEP5VAouu3c-01067-00313069-00313392 that's joyful and and not as not as a
WEP5VAouu3c-01068-00313393-00313578 not as something that's tedious or a
WEP5VAouu3c-01069-00313579-00313890 chore but as as fun because it is and
WEP5VAouu3c-01070-00313891-00314199 also to allow students the space to find
WEP5VAouu3c-01071-00314200-00314379 the kinds of books they love when I was
WEP5VAouu3c-01072-00314380-00314592 growing up my brothers loved fantasy and
WEP5VAouu3c-01073-00314593-00314832 science fiction I couldn't stand fantasy
WEP5VAouu3c-01074-00314833-00315042 and science fiction but we both read
WEP5VAouu3c-01075-00315043-00315252 things and we found the things that we
WEP5VAouu3c-01076-00315253-00315396 loved reading and I think it's really
WEP5VAouu3c-01077-00315397-00315708 important because reading and reading
WEP5VAouu3c-01078-00315709-00316047 widely just you know it just it's just
WEP5VAouu3c-01079-00316048-00316260 such a wondrous thing it teaches you
WEP5VAouu3c-01080-00316261-00316533 about human beings it educates you you
WEP5VAouu3c-01081-00316534-00316719 you learn things without knowing that
WEP5VAouu3c-01082-00316720-00316962 you're learning them I really just am
WEP5VAouu3c-01083-00316963-00317190 passionate about reading and another
WEP5VAouu3c-01084-00317191-00317400 thing I would say is you know turn of
WEP5VAouu3c-01085-00317401-00318041 the bloody screens
WEP5VAouu3c-01086-00318042-00318321 no alright alright I don't want any
WEP5VAouu3c-01087-00318322-00318498 angry emails I understand that
WEP5VAouu3c-01088-00318499-00318717 technology is part of learning today I
WEP5VAouu3c-01089-00318718-00319056 did it but you know sometimes I'm like
WEP5VAouu3c-01090-00319057-00320082 just turn of the damn thing my my
WEP5VAouu3c-01091-00320083-00320349 friend's child who I don't think that
WEP5VAouu3c-01092-00320350-00320553 she can actually calculate without the
WEP5VAouu3c-01093-00320554-00320826 calculator I just sort of you know and
WEP5VAouu3c-01094-00320827-00321081 again this is the this is the African
WEP5VAouu3c-01095-00321082-00321249 immigrants in me I'm just like turn that
WEP5VAouu3c-01096-00321250-00321837 thing off and do the math so empathy and
WEP5VAouu3c-01097-00321838-00322092 reflection seem to be really important
WEP5VAouu3c-01098-00322093-00322476 precursors to understanding the stories
WEP5VAouu3c-01099-00322477-00322755 and experiences of others how do you
WEP5VAouu3c-01100-00322756-00323061 cultivate these skills in yourself and
WEP5VAouu3c-01101-00323062-00323315 and what advice would you give to others
WEP5VAouu3c-01102-00323316-00323643 um I can talk about myself which is that
WEP5VAouu3c-01103-00323644-00323880 I'm constantly questioning myself and
WEP5VAouu3c-01104-00323881-00324195 also I always start with the premise of
WEP5VAouu3c-01105-00324196-00324405 imperfection and I think this is
WEP5VAouu3c-01106-00324406-00324525 something I've learned from literature
WEP5VAouu3c-01107-00324526-00324882 which is that we're all flawed and I am
WEP5VAouu3c-01108-00324883-00325062 very suspicious of perfection I do I
WEP5VAouu3c-01109-00325063-00325224 just don't think that anybody's perfect
WEP5VAouu3c-01110-00325225-00325476 and and I'm constantly questioning
WEP5VAouu3c-01111-00325477-00325869 myself and I I make room to call myself
WEP5VAouu3c-01112-00325870-00326352 out so that helps and but I think it's
WEP5VAouu3c-01113-00326353-00326658 also just making the choice to see
WEP5VAouu3c-01114-00326659-00327375 people and yes so I'll give an example
WEP5VAouu3c-01115-00327376-00327773 I I'm generally known to be a very
WEP5VAouu3c-01116-00327774-00328005 passionate feminist and I feel very
WEP5VAouu3c-01117-00328006-00328269 strongly about women being equal human
WEP5VAouu3c-01118-00328270-00328536 beings in the world even more strongly
WEP5VAouu3c-01119-00328537-00329184 today considering can I just say I'm
WEP5VAouu3c-01120-00329185-00329973 just sad anyway so you can say that
WEP5VAouu3c-01121-00329974-00330214 but I also realized that being an
WEP5VAouu3c-01122-00330215-00330364 outspoken feminist doesn't mean I have
WEP5VAouu3c-01123-00330365-00330565 all the answers and so recently a friend
WEP5VAouu3c-01124-00330566-00330796 of mine she's laughing at me because she
WEP5VAouu3c-01125-00330797-00330976 was telling me a story and we were
WEP5VAouu3c-01126-00330977-00331144 speaking English and eboo and Evo
WEP5VAouu3c-01127-00331145-00331410 doesn't have gender specific pronouns so
WEP5VAouu3c-01128-00331411-00331588 it's one pronoun for man and woman and
WEP5VAouu3c-01129-00331589-00331755 so she said to me in Ybor that she'd
WEP5VAouu3c-01130-00331756-00331956 gone to see a consultant and I then said
WEP5VAouu3c-01131-00331957-00332203 to her What did he say so she starts
WEP5VAouu3c-01132-00332204-00332382 laughing and she said you did you just
WEP5VAouu3c-01133-00332383-00332590 did what you always asked us not to do
WEP5VAouu3c-01134-00332591-00332827 which is assume I she's like the
WEP5VAouu3c-01135-00332828-00333003 consultant was a woman why did you
WEP5VAouu3c-01136-00333004-00333234 assume it was a man and I just felt
WEP5VAouu3c-01137-00333235-00333531 ashamed but it but for me it was also an
WEP5VAouu3c-01138-00333532-00333718 important moment because I realized yes
WEP5VAouu3c-01139-00333719-00333877 I spend my time sort of trying to get
WEP5VAouu3c-01140-00333878-00334029 people not to do that but here I am
WEP5VAouu3c-01141-00334030-00334366 doing it as well and and and for me it
WEP5VAouu3c-01142-00334367-00334614 was an opportunity to realize that that
WEP5VAouu3c-01143-00334615-00334888 sort of beat the patriarchy that the
WEP5VAouu3c-01144-00334889-00335077 system that we live in is very deeply
WEP5VAouu3c-01145-00335078-00335275 embedded and we're going to slip and
WEP5VAouu3c-01146-00335276-00335478 we're going to fall but then for me the
WEP5VAouu3c-01147-00335479-00336352 thing is that we get so so so we have a
WEP5VAouu3c-01148-00336353-00336633 lot of educators in the room do you have
WEP5VAouu3c-01149-00336634-00336954 any particular advice for them in terms
WEP5VAouu3c-01150-00336955-00337216 of their role in sowing the seeds of
WEP5VAouu3c-01151-00337217-00337482 equality and respect for others in the
WEP5VAouu3c-01152-00337483-00338116 classroom hmm be uncomfortable choose
WEP5VAouu3c-01153-00338117-00338443 truth to come forth there going to be
WEP5VAouu3c-01154-00338444-00338691 times that you're going to feel attacked
WEP5VAouu3c-01155-00338692-00339270 you know take it for the team
WEP5VAouu3c-01156-00339271-00339595 no whoa really it's it's to say that and
WEP5VAouu3c-01157-00339596-00339877 I think being a teacher I think it's
WEP5VAouu3c-01158-00339878-00340090 just a really special but also really
WEP5VAouu3c-01159-00340091-00340383 difficult thing and and I'm very
WEP5VAouu3c-01160-00340384-00340591 sympathetic to the to what I know the
WEP5VAouu3c-01161-00340592-00340747 challenges are particularly I think in a
WEP5VAouu3c-01162-00340748-00341014 country like this because it's a country
WEP5VAouu3c-01163-00341015-00341443 that is very much about you know America
WEP5VAouu3c-01164-00341444-00341631 doesn't sort of have that kind of it's
WEP5VAouu3c-01165-00341632-00341914 not Europe with its sort of old stories
WEP5VAouu3c-01166-00341915-00342135 and and it's myth of a sudden kind of
WEP5VAouu3c-01167-00342136-00342391 homogeneity it's not it's it's different
WEP5VAouu3c-01168-00342392-00342568 and I think because of that teachers
WEP5VAouu3c-01169-00342569-00342799 have particular challenges but but I
WEP5VAouu3c-01170-00342800-00343104 think I think it's just important to
WEP5VAouu3c-01171-00343105-00343372 have honest conversations I sometimes
WEP5VAouu3c-01172-00343373-00343509 think that there isn't enough of that
WEP5VAouu3c-01173-00343510-00343837 and I think students benefit from
WEP5VAouu3c-01174-00343838-00344203 honesty I also think that students can
WEP5VAouu3c-01175-00344204-00344395 tell when they hear it
WEP5VAouu3c-01176-00344396-00344706 and I just don't think it's worth
WEP5VAouu3c-01177-00344707-00344944 bullshitting kids but also I think it's
WEP5VAouu3c-01178-00344945-00345187 important to listen to children I find
WEP5VAouu3c-01179-00345188-00345384 that students can sometimes teach you
WEP5VAouu3c-01180-00345385-00345603 how to teach them if you listen to them
WEP5VAouu3c-01181-00345604-00345807 but all the same it's important to know
WEP5VAouu3c-01182-00345808-00345913 that they're the kids and you're the
WEP5VAouu3c-01183-00345914-00346078 teacher right so I don't think it's each
WEP5VAouu3c-01184-00346079-00346516 should be friends with the students but
WEP5VAouu3c-01185-00346517-00346629 I don't think they should be mean like
WEP5VAouu3c-01186-00346630-00347047 my teachers those ones away I hope you
WEP5VAouu3c-01187-00347048-00347184 somebody would do it I hoping that the
WEP5VAouu3c-01188-00347185-00347338 teachers I named them and it was kind of
WEP5VAouu3c-01189-00347339-00347484 wicked of me because I'm hoping that
WEP5VAouu3c-01190-00347485-00347671 somebody who you know but they'll hear
WEP5VAouu3c-01191-00347672-00348316 about it they'll get the emails so
WEP5VAouu3c-01192-00348317-00348619 today's event is all about the power of
WEP5VAouu3c-01193-00348620-00348841 stories and you've told a lot of them
WEP5VAouu3c-01194-00348842-00349144 today what were some of your favorite
WEP5VAouu3c-01195-00349145-00349363 most beloved books when you were younger
WEP5VAouu3c-01196-00349364-00349702 oh when I when I was that I loved any
WEP5VAouu3c-01197-00349703-00350028 Blyton the British children's writer
WEP5VAouu3c-01198-00350029-00350328 just adored hi read everything she wrote
WEP5VAouu3c-01199-00350329-00350748 I I felt transported by any blyton
WEP5VAouu3c-01200-00350749-00350992 particularly like the famous five series
WEP5VAouu3c-01201-00350993-00351199 with his five children I said of going
WEP5VAouu3c-01202-00351200-00351528 exploring and solving crimes and going
WEP5VAouu3c-01203-00351529-00351847 to dungeons and things and I and I think
WEP5VAouu3c-01204-00351848-00352078 what I loved about it was it felt it was
WEP5VAouu3c-01205-00352079-00352257 so different but at the same time so
WEP5VAouu3c-01206-00352258-00352621 accessible I didn't know I didn't
WEP5VAouu3c-01207-00352622-00352813 understand why they ate chicken bus and
WEP5VAouu3c-01208-00352814-00352987 witches for example because I felt Oni
WEP5VAouu3c-01209-00352988-00353229 would be really dry and not terribly
WEP5VAouu3c-01210-00353230-00353494 appealing but somehow because I was
WEP5VAouu3c-01211-00353495-00353719 reading Enid Blyton cucumber sandwiches
WEP5VAouu3c-01212-00353720-00353962 became something to aspire to you know
WEP5VAouu3c-01213-00353963-00354289 so did ginger beer and and my childhood
WEP5VAouu3c-01214-00354290-00354547 is worn I think that we'll just always
WEP5VAouu3c-01215-00354548-00354810 be sort of my memory of childhood is one
WEP5VAouu3c-01216-00354811-00355069 in which any blyton is wrapped around it
WEP5VAouu3c-01217-00355070-00355519 in the sort of beautiful hello I loved
WEP5VAouu3c-01218-00355520-00355659 any blyton and then of course when I
WEP5VAouu3c-01219-00355660-00355888 discovered that there were in fact
WEP5VAouu3c-01220-00355889-00356125 Africans who wrote about Africans it was
WEP5VAouu3c-01221-00356126-00356218 such a thrill
WEP5VAouu3c-01222-00356219-00356280 so one
WEP5VAouu3c-01223-00356281-00356667 book I love deeply is a novel by camara
WEP5VAouu3c-01224-00356668-00356694 Laye
WEP5VAouu3c-01225-00356695-00356883 it's called the African child and
WEP5VAouu3c-01226-00356884-00357090 sometimes its traits it's actually it
WEP5VAouu3c-01227-00357091-00357261 was first written in French as long for
WEP5VAouu3c-01228-00357262-00357564 Nora and it's translated sometimes also
WEP5VAouu3c-01229-00357565-00357726 as the black child and it's just this
WEP5VAouu3c-01230-00357727-00358008 really lovely coming-of-age story in
WEP5VAouu3c-01231-00358009-00358317 that certain sort of the nights in but
WEP5VAouu3c-01232-00358318-00358605 maybe forties and I just I love it
WEP5VAouu3c-01233-00358606-00358863 because it's I just love it and then I
WEP5VAouu3c-01234-00358864-00359106 love Chino Chiba ma'am
WEP5VAouu3c-01235-00359107-00359370 his novel arrow of God is one that I I
WEP5VAouu3c-01236-00359371-00359697 reread often both as a writer because I
WEP5VAouu3c-01237-00359698-00359868 think the complexity of it is just
WEP5VAouu3c-01238-00359869-00360168 stunning but also as just as a reader
WEP5VAouu3c-01239-00360169-00360540 because he/she not Jabez novels did
WEP5VAouu3c-01240-00360541-00360900 something for me that I he gave me a
WEP5VAouu3c-01241-00360901-00361290 sense of dignity in my history and I
WEP5VAouu3c-01242-00361291-00361389 think that's one of the powerful things
WEP5VAouu3c-01243-00361390-00361776 books can do he made me realize that my
WEP5VAouu3c-01244-00361777-00362442 history was worthy of of dignity and and
WEP5VAouu3c-01245-00362443-00362652 that's that's been very meaningful for
WEP5VAouu3c-01246-00362653-00363228 me so educators work to support their
WEP5VAouu3c-01247-00363229-00363510 students every single day it can be a
WEP5VAouu3c-01248-00363511-00363900 really demanding job without limits how
WEP5VAouu3c-01249-00363901-00364248 do you embed self-care into your work in
WEP5VAouu3c-01250-00364249-00364539 practice and any advice you have for
WEP5VAouu3c-01251-00364540-00364737 educators in terms of how they might
WEP5VAouu3c-01252-00364738-00364878 take care of themselves and their
WEP5VAouu3c-01253-00364879-00365088 practice yeah I think that's a very good
WEP5VAouu3c-01254-00365089-00365363 question actually
WEP5VAouu3c-01255-00365364-00365622 sometimes just turn off the TV don't
WEP5VAouu3c-01256-00365623-00365910 read the news not today's news
WEP5VAouu3c-01257-00365911-00366186 especially that's sort of me telling
WEP5VAouu3c-01258-00366187-00366627 myself that but today yeah I think
WEP5VAouu3c-01259-00366628-00366893 sometimes I think it's important too to
WEP5VAouu3c-01260-00366894-00367257 switch off which I mean just really just
WEP5VAouu3c-01261-00367258-00367428 switch over to turn everything off and
WEP5VAouu3c-01262-00367429-00367716 and to be in Ward and and I think
WEP5VAouu3c-01263-00367717-00367875 particularly I want to say particularly
WEP5VAouu3c-01264-00367876-00368229 for women because I think teachers are
WEP5VAouu3c-01265-00368230-00368502 sort of caregivers really and women are
WEP5VAouu3c-01266-00368503-00368646 already socialized to be caregivers
WEP5VAouu3c-01267-00368647-00368847 women are already socialized and put
WEP5VAouu3c-01268-00368848-00369120 themselves last that sort of thing and I
WEP5VAouu3c-01269-00369121-00369261 think it's important sometimes to put
WEP5VAouu3c-01270-00369262-00369465 yourself first which is to say
WEP5VAouu3c-01271-00369466-00369766 to create the time for yourself and even
WEP5VAouu3c-01272-00369767-00370225 if it's five minutes also and maybe this
WEP5VAouu3c-01273-00370226-00370462 is more difficult to not to take things
WEP5VAouu3c-01274-00370463-00371065 personal because I think that that and
WEP5VAouu3c-01275-00371066-00371257 because we're human we it's easy to take
WEP5VAouu3c-01276-00371258-00371470 things personal but I I sometimes think
WEP5VAouu3c-01277-00371471-00371713 that if if we can find a way emotionally
WEP5VAouu3c-01278-00371714-00372031 not to do that I think we sort of we
WEP5VAouu3c-01279-00372032-00372325 then better protect emotional well-being
WEP5VAouu3c-01280-00372326-00372538 you know to just be able to acknowledge
WEP5VAouu3c-01281-00372539-00372721 things just let it go
WEP5VAouu3c-01282-00372722-00372991 and just be like okay this this parent
WEP5VAouu3c-01283-00372992-00373201 yelled at me it's really not about me
WEP5VAouu3c-01284-00373202-00373354 this parent is frustrated of the child
WEP5VAouu3c-01285-00373355-00373714 and I'm just going to let it go well
WEP5VAouu3c-01286-00373715-00374008 thank you Chimamanda for an amazing and
WEP5VAouu3c-01287-00374009-00374328 inspiring set of words and so appreciate
WEP5VAouu3c-01288-00374329-00374544 [Applause]
WEP5VAouu3c-01289-00374545-00375095 [Music]
WEP5VAouu3c-01290-00375096-00375672 thank you thank you thank you so stories
WEP5VAouu3c-01291-00375673-00375879 have been part of life long before
WEP5VAouu3c-01292-00375880-00376239 recorded history think prehistoric cave
WEP5VAouu3c-01293-00376240-00376575 paintings and Greek mythology fast
WEP5VAouu3c-01294-00376576-00376893 forward to now where TED talks and binge
WEP5VAouu3c-01295-00376894-00377112 listening to your favorite podcasts
WEP5VAouu3c-01296-00377113-00377396 continue the tradition of storytelling
WEP5VAouu3c-01297-00377397-00377715 today we hope we've added a new subgroup
WEP5VAouu3c-01298-00377716-00378045 to the storytelling Canon stories about
WEP5VAouu3c-01299-00378046-00378297 keeping the promise of public education
WEP5VAouu3c-01300-00378298-00378540 we chose the story medium because a
WEP5VAouu3c-01301-00378541-00378762 human centered story can greatly shape
WEP5VAouu3c-01302-00378763-00379101 the way we look at life broaden our
WEP5VAouu3c-01303-00379102-00379401 thinking create opportunities to listen
WEP5VAouu3c-01304-00379402-00379662 to divergent views and challenging
WEP5VAouu3c-01305-00379663-00379950 experiences words affect how the
WEP5VAouu3c-01306-00379951-00380244 listener acts from the moment they hear
WEP5VAouu3c-01307-00380245-00380538 the words our story today we're not to
WEP5VAouu3c-01308-00380539-00380823 tell you how to think but to give you
WEP5VAouu3c-01309-00380824-00381159 questions to think about we believe
WEP5VAouu3c-01310-00381160-00381330 storytelling is one of the most powerful
WEP5VAouu3c-01311-00381331-00381747 ways to put ideas into the world into
WEP5VAouu3c-01312-00381748-00382080 the world our stories allow diverse
WEP5VAouu3c-01313-00382081-00382179 voices to be heard
WEP5VAouu3c-01314-00382180-00382497 offered hope and wisdom and we trust
WEP5VAouu3c-01315-00382498-00382758 today's stories will motivate you to act
WEP5VAouu3c-01316-00382759-00383105 in support of public education we are
WEP5VAouu3c-01317-00383106-00383487 deep believers we will make the
WEP5VAouu3c-01318-00383488-00383709 Foundation's golden anniversary year a
WEP5VAouu3c-01319-00383710-00383931 stage from which the thousands of
WEP5VAouu3c-01320-00383932-00384117 American public school educators
WEP5VAouu3c-01321-00384118-00384414 students and their allies can lift their
WEP5VAouu3c-01322-00384415-00384678 voices and celebrate their personal
WEP5VAouu3c-01323-00384679-00385041 commitment to students every day caring
WEP5VAouu3c-01324-00385042-00385388 for our obligation to future generations
WEP5VAouu3c-01325-00385389-00385746 along the way each time keeping the
WEP5VAouu3c-01326-00385747-00386157 promise story is retold will be making
WEP5VAouu3c-01327-00386158-00386487 clear that public education is not
WEP5VAouu3c-01328-00386488-00387177 buildings or buses or bureaucracies but
WEP5VAouu3c-01329-00387178-00387539 rather real people who want to learn
WEP5VAouu3c-01330-00387540-00387848 real people who want to be heard
WEP5VAouu3c-01331-00387849-00388181 real people who believe in the power
WEP5VAouu3c-01332-00388182-00388580 a public education to grow give and save
WEP5VAouu3c-01333-00388581-00389099 lives future generations are watching we
WEP5VAouu3c-01334-00389100-00389357 will not let them down thank you very
WEP5VAouu3c-01335-00389358-00389652 much
WEP5VAouu3c-01336-00389653-00390111 [Applause]
WEP5VAouu3c-01337-00390112-00391305 [Music]
WFhLTbVNzJc-00000-00000170-00000515 thanks Colleen thanks for everybody that
WFhLTbVNzJc-00001-00000516-00000800 came out tonight it's so cold I see a
WFhLTbVNzJc-00002-00000801-00001003 lot of familiar faces but a lot of new
WFhLTbVNzJc-00003-00001005-00001270 faces and thank you like Colleen said to
WFhLTbVNzJc-00004-00001271-00001420 the gentleman that came to join us
WFhLTbVNzJc-00005-00001421-00001730 tonight this must be a very popular
WFhLTbVNzJc-00006-00001730-00002231 topic of interest so I've got some
WFhLTbVNzJc-00007-00002232-00002564 high-level insight for you about our
WFhLTbVNzJc-00008-00002565-00002954 journey from on-prem to in the cloud and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00009-00002955-00003235 and then my team is always very willing
WFhLTbVNzJc-00010-00003236-00003452 to meet one-on-one and do technical deep
WFhLTbVNzJc-00011-00003453-00003599 dives with anybody that wants to learn
WFhLTbVNzJc-00012-00003600-00003836 more so because there's a lot of
WFhLTbVNzJc-00013-00003836-00003992 technology that goes in behind all of
WFhLTbVNzJc-00014-00003993-00004297 this so as Colleen mentioned I am Rob
WFhLTbVNzJc-00015-00004298-00004481 investor Lee director of IT here at
WFhLTbVNzJc-00016-00004482-00004688 Nebraska Furniture Mart and this
WFhLTbVNzJc-00017-00004689-00004879 wonderful building we've actually been
WFhLTbVNzJc-00018-00004880-00005201 in here for six years now I think it was
WFhLTbVNzJc-00019-00005202-00005452 a telemarketing group at one point that
WFhLTbVNzJc-00020-00005453-00005735 that was housed in here and then the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00021-00005736-00006031 building said empty for three years and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00022-00006032-00006321 it got bad infested and mold and and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00023-00006322-00006653 when we opened up our Texas store we had
WFhLTbVNzJc-00024-00006654-00006889 to add to our home office staff and then
WFhLTbVNzJc-00025-00006890-00007042 we were bursting at the seams so we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00026-00007043-00007178 bought this building and completely
WFhLTbVNzJc-00027-00007179-00007463 renovated it and we love the space so
WFhLTbVNzJc-00028-00007464-00007681 it's nice to be able to host events like
WFhLTbVNzJc-00029-00007683-00008144 this here so we are gonna start with a
WFhLTbVNzJc-00030-00008145-00008321 little bit of history of nfm but I have
WFhLTbVNzJc-00031-00008322-00008546 a couple of fabulous prizes to give out
WFhLTbVNzJc-00032-00008547-00008881 with some trivia questions for you so
WFhLTbVNzJc-00033-00008882-00009289 shout out maybe raise your hand - in
WFhLTbVNzJc-00034-00009290-00009701 unison so I can see who's first to
WFhLTbVNzJc-00035-00009702-00010438 answer who knows who our founder is mrs.
WFhLTbVNzJc-00036-00010439-00010974 blumpkin yes Rose blumpkin so thank you
WFhLTbVNzJc-00037-00010975-00011405 know you get a prize a fabulous prize so
WFhLTbVNzJc-00038-00011406-00011813 that's I can't remember but it was I
WFhLTbVNzJc-00039-00011814-00012112 think it's a t-shirt from one of our
WFhLTbVNzJc-00040-00012113-00012395 generous sponsors that we had some
WFhLTbVNzJc-00041-00012396-00012620 leftover stuff from our holiday jingle
WFhLTbVNzJc-00042-00012621-00012888 jingle mingle went
WFhLTbVNzJc-00043-00012888-00013290 it's not new carpet no yes and an ice
WFhLTbVNzJc-00044-00013291-00013455 scraper which comes in handy this time
WFhLTbVNzJc-00045-00013456-00013513 of year
WFhLTbVNzJc-00046-00013515-00013785 my next trivia question is does anybody
WFhLTbVNzJc-00047-00013786-00014468 know what year our company was founded
WFhLTbVNzJc-00048-00014469-00014877 yes Wow good for you did you used to
WFhLTbVNzJc-00049-00014878-00015203 work here
WFhLTbVNzJc-00050-00015204-00016230 yes 1937 there you go thank you yeah so
WFhLTbVNzJc-00051-00016231-00016407 we'll just dive into a little bit of
WFhLTbVNzJc-00052-00016408-00016590 history of the Mart we were founded in
WFhLTbVNzJc-00053-00016591-00016869 1937 by rose blumpkin I think she's
WFhLTbVNzJc-00054-00016870-00017280 endearingly known as mrs. B and and her
WFhLTbVNzJc-00055-00017281-00017505 clearance center on the north end of our
WFhLTbVNzJc-00056-00017506-00017664 campus is still called mrs. B's
WFhLTbVNzJc-00057-00017665-00017922 clearance center she was a little
WFhLTbVNzJc-00058-00017923-00018144 Russian immigrant that spoke very broken
WFhLTbVNzJc-00059-00018145-00018447 English and that she was smart as a whip
WFhLTbVNzJc-00060-00018448-00018836 did math in her head and never forgot
WFhLTbVNzJc-00061-00018837-00019215 anything she was so kind to her
WFhLTbVNzJc-00062-00019216-00019428 customers and was thrilled about getting
WFhLTbVNzJc-00063-00019429-00019755 them a good deal her motto was sell
WFhLTbVNzJc-00064-00019756-00019983 cheap and tell the truth and she never
WFhLTbVNzJc-00065-00019984-00020088 took no for an answer
WFhLTbVNzJc-00066-00020089-00020322 and she started this little furniture
WFhLTbVNzJc-00067-00020323-00020490 business in the basement of her
WFhLTbVNzJc-00068-00020491-00020840 husband's pawn shop downtown in Omaha in
WFhLTbVNzJc-00069-00020841-00021144 1937 and then you know this is what it's
WFhLTbVNzJc-00070-00021145-00021350 become she worked till she was a hundred
WFhLTbVNzJc-00071-00021351-00021663 and three years old and passed away just
WFhLTbVNzJc-00072-00021664-00021906 shortly after that and did anybody get
WFhLTbVNzJc-00073-00021907-00022146 an opportunity to shop with mrs. mrs. B
WFhLTbVNzJc-00074-00022147-00022443 yeah I see some hands I did two before I
WFhLTbVNzJc-00075-00022444-00022614 worked here obviously but she buzzed
WFhLTbVNzJc-00076-00022615-00022825 around in her cart and she just you know
WFhLTbVNzJc-00077-00022826-00023280 she was our best salesperson her
WFhLTbVNzJc-00078-00023281-00023631 grandson's our Irv and Ron blumpkin and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00079-00023632-00023897 they're both still very much a part of
WFhLTbVNzJc-00080-00023898-00024293 our executive team Irv is the CEO and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00081-00024294-00024624 Ron is now chairman of board we just
WFhLTbVNzJc-00082-00024625-00024852 moved a new person into the president
WFhLTbVNzJc-00083-00024853-00025185 the C chief operating officer role about
WFhLTbVNzJc-00084-00025186-00025461 a year and a half ago Tony bolts so but
WFhLTbVNzJc-00085-00025462-00025638 then they've got some children that are
WFhLTbVNzJc-00086-00025639-00025851 also very actively involved in the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00087-00025852-00026039 business so we like to surround
WFhLTbVNzJc-00088-00026041-00026396 ourselves with the blumpkin family
WFhLTbVNzJc-00089-00026397-00026745 her let's see she's sold do I have that
WFhLTbVNzJc-00090-00026745-00027161 I do she did sell 85% of Nebraska
WFhLTbVNzJc-00091-00027162-00027429 Furniture Mart to Warren Buffett in 1983
WFhLTbVNzJc-00092-00027430-00027737 on a handshake and I kid you not I've
WFhLTbVNzJc-00093-00027738-00027958 seen that the contract it's a one-page
WFhLTbVNzJc-00094-00027959-00028317 one-sided contract that they struck this
WFhLTbVNzJc-00095-00028318-00028598 deal so and Warren still talks very
WFhLTbVNzJc-00096-00028599-00028814 fondly about mrs. blumpkin and this
WFhLTbVNzJc-00097-00028815-00029015 being one of his you know his top five
WFhLTbVNzJc-00098-00029016-00029249 businesses that he owns so we're proud
WFhLTbVNzJc-00099-00029250-00029480 of that it's good to be part of you know
WFhLTbVNzJc-00100-00029481-00029870 Warren Buffett's crew in 2003 we opened
WFhLTbVNzJc-00101-00029871-00030114 up our Kansas City stores so it's about
WFhLTbVNzJc-00102-00030114-00030324 this same amount of retail space as we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00103-00030325-00030527 have here on our open Omaha campus but
WFhLTbVNzJc-00104-00030528-00030726 it's one building two stories it's a
WFhLTbVNzJc-00105-00030727-00031080 beautiful store if you're ever in Kansas
WFhLTbVNzJc-00106-00031081-00031217 City I encourage you to go visit it
WFhLTbVNzJc-00107-00031218-00031664 about the same product line we started
WFhLTbVNzJc-00108-00031665-00032048 our first e-commerce website in 2006 we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00109-00032049-00032318 this was kind of a slow process for us
WFhLTbVNzJc-00110-00032319-00032470 we were a little bit late to the game
WFhLTbVNzJc-00111-00032471-00032765 when I started here at 2001 one of the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00112-00032766-00033002 first things I tried to convince run in
WFhLTbVNzJc-00113-00033003-00033155 her blumpkin was that we needed an
WFhLTbVNzJc-00114-00033156-00033285 e-commerce site and they're like we're
WFhLTbVNzJc-00115-00033286-00033440 brick-and-mortar we don't need to sell
WFhLTbVNzJc-00116-00033441-00033776 on the Internet and so we at least
WFhLTbVNzJc-00117-00033777-00033930 convinced them to have a marketing site
WFhLTbVNzJc-00118-00033931-00034043 to kind of talk about our
WFhLTbVNzJc-00119-00034044-00034262 brick-and-mortar stores and then we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00120-00034263-00034485 gradually got to putting our product
WFhLTbVNzJc-00121-00034486-00034664 catalog out there and then showing our
WFhLTbVNzJc-00122-00034665-00035010 prices and in 2006 eventually we did
WFhLTbVNzJc-00123-00035011-00035229 have an e-commerce site so and that's
WFhLTbVNzJc-00124-00035230-00035517 been very very successful it's now about
WFhLTbVNzJc-00125-00035518-00035780 9% of our overall revenues so it
WFhLTbVNzJc-00126-00035781-00036060 continues to be a driver of traffic to
WFhLTbVNzJc-00127-00036061-00036395 the store our best marketing you know
WFhLTbVNzJc-00128-00036396-00036711 media and it's a great way for people to
WFhLTbVNzJc-00129-00036712-00036896 shop our store before they drive in you
WFhLTbVNzJc-00130-00036897-00036989 know because we are kind of a
WFhLTbVNzJc-00131-00036990-00037493 destination in 2015 we opened our Dallas
WFhLTbVNzJc-00132-00037494-00037751 store which is has anybody been to our
WFhLTbVNzJc-00133-00037752-00038012 Dallas store yeah a few of you is it
WFhLTbVNzJc-00134-00038013-00038379 beautiful or yes it is dynamite so it's
WFhLTbVNzJc-00135-00038380-00038677 kind of our flagship store it's about
WFhLTbVNzJc-00136-00038678-00039132 600,000 retail and 600,000 square feet
WFhLTbVNzJc-00137-00039133-00039480 of retail space and then with the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00138-00039481-00039594 distribution centers
WFhLTbVNzJc-00139-00039595-00039887 about 1.3 million square feet of space
WFhLTbVNzJc-00140-00039888-00040143 when we went into that community we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00141-00040144-00040476 bought 435 acres so this is the first
WFhLTbVNzJc-00142-00040477-00040644 time we've really become real estate
WFhLTbVNzJc-00143-00040645-00040899 agents so we own the land around us
WFhLTbVNzJc-00144-00040900-00041157 we're a flagship store or one of the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00145-00041158-00041418 anchor stores Scheels is building their
WFhLTbVNzJc-00146-00041419-00041628 flagship store there and it opens in
WFhLTbVNzJc-00147-00041629-00041997 April of 2020 and then we leased the the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00148-00041998-00042285 real estate to tenants so it's mixed-use
WFhLTbVNzJc-00149-00042286-00042540 so you know there's indoor karting and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00150-00042541-00042684 there's a movie theater and lots of
WFhLTbVNzJc-00151-00042685-00042951 entertainment and you know food venues
WFhLTbVNzJc-00152-00042952-00043260 and a truck yard and all sorts of great
WFhLTbVNzJc-00153-00043261-00043422 things it's it's beautiful I encourage
WFhLTbVNzJc-00154-00043423-00043770 you to stop by and spend a day there
WFhLTbVNzJc-00155-00043771-00044127 because there's a lot to see so we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00156-00044128-00044295 continue to work on our Grand scape
WFhLTbVNzJc-00157-00044296-00044466 development that's the name of the acres
WFhLTbVNzJc-00158-00044467-00044724 around our store it's about a 10-year
WFhLTbVNzJc-00159-00044725-00044937 build we're about two years into it so
WFhLTbVNzJc-00160-00044938-00045210 we we grin to open the main section in
WFhLTbVNzJc-00161-00045211-00045429 March of this year so we're excited
WFhLTbVNzJc-00162-00045430-00045822 about that we are the largest home
WFhLTbVNzJc-00163-00045823-00045990 furnishing store in North America
WFhLTbVNzJc-00164-00045991-00046356 there's really nobody in North America
WFhLTbVNzJc-00165-00046357-00046539 that can compete with our business model
WFhLTbVNzJc-00166-00046540-00046698 and the categories that we're in all
WFhLTbVNzJc-00167-00046699-00047058 under one store we do about 1.8 billion
WFhLTbVNzJc-00168-00047059-00047292 dollars in revenue in in our three major
WFhLTbVNzJc-00169-00047293-00047499 stores so that's that's a lot of sales
WFhLTbVNzJc-00170-00047500-00047805 in three stores and we have about 5,000
WFhLTbVNzJc-00171-00047806-00048188 employees with about 1,400 here in Omaha
WFhLTbVNzJc-00172-00048189-00048567 so that is a little bit about us so our
WFhLTbVNzJc-00173-00048568-00048866 journey started with a project basically
WFhLTbVNzJc-00174-00048867-00049116 and I think everybody's journey starts a
WFhLTbVNzJc-00175-00049117-00049371 little bit different but our started
WFhLTbVNzJc-00176-00049372-00049752 with a need to rewrite our website so it
WFhLTbVNzJc-00177-00049753-00050208 had been about four years since we since
WFhLTbVNzJc-00178-00050209-00050454 we deployed our website and so we needed
WFhLTbVNzJc-00179-00050455-00050874 to give it a facelift re-architect it so
WFhLTbVNzJc-00180-00050875-00051099 we decided we're gonna go all in on this
WFhLTbVNzJc-00181-00051100-00051455 we rewrote every line of code for our
WFhLTbVNzJc-00182-00051457-00051821 e-commerce site every line and we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00183-00051822-00052229 architected we were hosted in
WFhLTbVNzJc-00184-00052230-00052533 as infrastructure as a service so we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00185-00052534-00052827 architected our code to be able to be in
WFhLTbVNzJc-00186-00052828-00052938 the public cloud
WFhLTbVNzJc-00187-00052939-00053259 we chose Azure because we're a very
WFhLTbVNzJc-00188-00053260-00053433 heavy Microsoft shop but we also
WFhLTbVNzJc-00189-00053434-00053712 architected it so that it could be moved
WFhLTbVNzJc-00190-00053713-00053958 to another another public cloud like AWS
WFhLTbVNzJc-00191-00053959-00054257 or Google with relatively a few
WFhLTbVNzJc-00192-00054258-00054614 enhancements big architectural changes
WFhLTbVNzJc-00193-00054615-00054936 so we had multiple code bases with our
WFhLTbVNzJc-00194-00054937-00055179 old e-commerce platform we had a code
WFhLTbVNzJc-00195-00055179-00055434 base for our salespeople that have
WFhLTbVNzJc-00196-00055435-00055655 tablets in the store that was one code
WFhLTbVNzJc-00197-00055657-00055866 base we maintained we maintained a code
WFhLTbVNzJc-00198-00055866-00056141 base for desktop and tablet and then
WFhLTbVNzJc-00199-00056142-00056445 another code base for mobile for phone
WFhLTbVNzJc-00200-00056446-00056784 apps and so it was difficult as you
WFhLTbVNzJc-00201-00056785-00057123 might imagine to make changes across all
WFhLTbVNzJc-00202-00057124-00057333 three code bases it was also a
WFhLTbVNzJc-00203-00057334-00057561 monolithic code base which means it was
WFhLTbVNzJc-00204-00057562-00057849 all tightly ingrained so we moved to
WFhLTbVNzJc-00205-00057850-00058014 micro services so there's little chunks
WFhLTbVNzJc-00206-00058015-00058290 of code but when it's all monolithic you
WFhLTbVNzJc-00207-00058291-00058503 have to test everything like if you make
WFhLTbVNzJc-00208-00058504-00058682 one change to the shopping cart for
WFhLTbVNzJc-00209-00058683-00058959 example you have to you have to test the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00210-00058960-00059179 entire code base from beginning to end
WFhLTbVNzJc-00211-00059180-00059574 our testing practices were manual and so
WFhLTbVNzJc-00212-00059575-00059804 you might imagine that testing a small
WFhLTbVNzJc-00213-00059805-00060069 change took a very long time so as a
WFhLTbVNzJc-00214-00060070-00060351 result we were able to deploy code to
WFhLTbVNzJc-00215-00060352-00060829 production every two weeks typically and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00216-00060830-00061079 sometimes if we got lucky it was every
WFhLTbVNzJc-00217-00061080-00061532 one week so we had as I mentioned all
WFhLTbVNzJc-00218-00061533-00061746 manual tests practices so our key ways
WFhLTbVNzJc-00219-00061747-00061967 were very busy just you know developing
WFhLTbVNzJc-00220-00061969-00062232 scenarios and testing things to the best
WFhLTbVNzJc-00221-00062233-00062555 of their ability with no automation our
WFhLTbVNzJc-00222-00062557-00062787 developers also didn't write unit tests
WFhLTbVNzJc-00223-00062788-00063114 and quite honestly I don't think I have
WFhLTbVNzJc-00224-00063115-00063249 any of them in here they didn't think
WFhLTbVNzJc-00225-00063250-00063528 they needed they thought that's the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00226-00063529-00063992 testers problem so in our page load time
WFhLTbVNzJc-00227-00063994-00064272 on our website was on average five to
WFhLTbVNzJc-00228-00064273-00064554 eight seconds so we knew we needed to
WFhLTbVNzJc-00229-00064554-00064773 make a big change so we we jumped in
WFhLTbVNzJc-00230-00064774-00065052 head first like I said we rewrote the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00231-00065053-00065354 entire code base so we use micro
WFhLTbVNzJc-00232-00065355-00065619 services implemented in docker
WFhLTbVNzJc-00233-00065620-00066012 and using DCOs on azure supported by we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00234-00066013-00066411 created a CI CD pipeline and implemented
WFhLTbVNzJc-00235-00066412-00066780 a DevOps practice we use vamp and test
WFhLTbVNzJc-00236-00066781-00067143 architect and now we have one code base
WFhLTbVNzJc-00237-00067144-00067389 so it's a code base that's responsive
WFhLTbVNzJc-00238-00067390-00067563 across all of those form factors that we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00239-00067564-00067815 talked about and then we moved from
WFhLTbVNzJc-00240-00067816-00068010 infrastructure-as-a-service hosted in
WFhLTbVNzJc-00241-00068011-00068340 somebody else's data center to into the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00242-00068341-00068571 cloud and I will say that's been a bit
WFhLTbVNzJc-00243-00068572-00068778 challenging because we had a lot of
WFhLTbVNzJc-00244-00068779-00068985 control over things like downtime or
WFhLTbVNzJc-00245-00068986-00069243 latency and when you move into the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00246-00069244-00069531 public cloud you're a little bit you
WFhLTbVNzJc-00247-00069532-00069771 know a hand tied with that Microsoft has
WFhLTbVNzJc-00248-00069772-00069987 been super responsive for us but you
WFhLTbVNzJc-00249-00069988-00070428 feel a little bit you know a little you
WFhLTbVNzJc-00250-00070429-00070593 have a little less control and that's a
WFhLTbVNzJc-00251-00070594-00070851 little bit unnerving but fortunately
WFhLTbVNzJc-00252-00070852-00071292 there's not much downtime so since then
WFhLTbVNzJc-00253-00071293-00071490 so we implemented the website in
WFhLTbVNzJc-00254-00071491-00071682 September of 2008 with the new
WFhLTbVNzJc-00255-00071683-00072059 architecture but we've also created
WFhLTbVNzJc-00256-00072060-00072300 through that process we created a
WFhLTbVNzJc-00257-00072301-00072504 enablement team and those are the team
WFhLTbVNzJc-00258-00072505-00072762 the teammates that are responsible for
WFhLTbVNzJc-00259-00072763-00072960 the automation so that's our DevOps
WFhLTbVNzJc-00260-00072961-00073227 engineers it's our there's Software
WFhLTbVNzJc-00261-00073228-00073416 Architect it's our automated test
WFhLTbVNzJc-00262-00073417-00073524 engineers
WFhLTbVNzJc-00263-00073525-00073752 it's our beloved scrum master who's up
WFhLTbVNzJc-00264-00073753-00074097 there watching from the wings ha ha Lisa
WFhLTbVNzJc-00265-00074098-00074334 Miller she she kind of because she
WFhLTbVNzJc-00266-00074335-00074544 manages that team quite well and they
WFhLTbVNzJc-00267-00074545-00074715 and they have a manager and we've had
WFhLTbVNzJc-00268-00074716-00074877 some senior developers and technical
WFhLTbVNzJc-00269-00074878-00075210 leads on that team so that team kind of
WFhLTbVNzJc-00270-00075211-00075537 started out of necessity for what we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00271-00075538-00075681 were doing with the website but now
WFhLTbVNzJc-00272-00075682-00075795 they've become this enterprise
WFhLTbVNzJc-00273-00075796-00076023 enablement team where they're they've
WFhLTbVNzJc-00274-00076024-00076317 worked with our bi team to get them into
WFhLTbVNzJc-00275-00076318-00076521 the pipeline for automated deployment as
WFhLTbVNzJc-00276-00076522-00076767 well and they're working with our
WFhLTbVNzJc-00277-00076768-00076971 ServiceNow team to get them into the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00278-00076972-00077211 pipeline so we're really using their
WFhLTbVNzJc-00279-00077212-00077451 their talent and their expertise across
WFhLTbVNzJc-00280-00077452-00077781 the entire enterprise now we created a
WFhLTbVNzJc-00281-00077782-00077901 cloud Center of Excellence that I'm
WFhLTbVNzJc-00282-00077902-00078146 going to dive into more detail on that
WFhLTbVNzJc-00283-00078147-00078576 you know in a few slides from now so and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00284-00078577-00078771 then our developers now much to their
WFhLTbVNzJc-00285-00078772-00078975 chagrin initially right unit
WFhLTbVNzJc-00286-00078976-00079197 but it's been it's been really
WFhLTbVNzJc-00287-00079198-00079353 successful and good for them because
WFhLTbVNzJc-00288-00079354-00079506 they you know they have to think a
WFhLTbVNzJc-00289-00079507-00079725 little bit about you know ripple of what
WFhLTbVNzJc-00290-00079726-00079950 they're doing and if they don't if
WFhLTbVNzJc-00291-00079951-00080148 something gets past a keyway without a
WFhLTbVNzJc-00292-00080149-00080415 unit testing kind they get sent back so
WFhLTbVNzJc-00293-00080416-00080646 that's that that's been good and then we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00294-00080647-00080865 have automated test scripts so we've got
WFhLTbVNzJc-00295-00080866-00081056 you know kind of your your typical
WFhLTbVNzJc-00296-00081057-00081375 examples of an e-commerce site like put
WFhLTbVNzJc-00297-00081376-00081575 something in a shopping cart or checkout
WFhLTbVNzJc-00298-00081576-00081909 or enter my account information that
WFhLTbVNzJc-00299-00081910-00082076 kind of stuff we have automated test
WFhLTbVNzJc-00300-00082077-00082236 scripts for that but then we also have
WFhLTbVNzJc-00301-00082237-00082617 over 60 automated regression tests that
WFhLTbVNzJc-00302-00082618-00082854 run nightly and alert us if something
WFhLTbVNzJc-00303-00082855-00083144 fails so you can't a developer can't
WFhLTbVNzJc-00304-00083145-00083618 check in code and have it it has to pass
WFhLTbVNzJc-00305-00083619-00083813 tests before it can go any further in
WFhLTbVNzJc-00306-00083814-00084237 the pipeline we now deploy upwards of 20
WFhLTbVNzJc-00307-00084238-00084642 times a day if there's a need and we've
WFhLTbVNzJc-00308-00084643-00084794 also moved into a software-defined
WFhLTbVNzJc-00309-00084795-00085047 network and I don't know it's it's going
WFhLTbVNzJc-00310-00085048-00085449 to be a journey but we're trying to or
WFhLTbVNzJc-00311-00085450-00085640 you used to hit you didn't a couple
WFhLTbVNzJc-00312-00085641-00085925 network and server and storage together
WFhLTbVNzJc-00313-00085926-00086172 you know a software-defined network
WFhLTbVNzJc-00314-00086173-00086397 allows you to be able to do that and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00315-00086398-00086571 then you can be much more nimble like
WFhLTbVNzJc-00316-00086572-00086768 you are in a public cloud and so we've
WFhLTbVNzJc-00317-00086769-00087056 we've implemented things like Cisco ACI
WFhLTbVNzJc-00318-00087057-00087250 so there's software to find data center
WFhLTbVNzJc-00319-00087251-00087636 there hyperflex Cisco's hyper flex we've
WFhLTbVNzJc-00320-00087637-00087849 also implemented mist Wireless their
WFhLTbVNzJc-00321-00087850-00088428 cloud controller lists Wireless that has
WFhLTbVNzJc-00322-00088429-00088659 AI and machine learning so that's been
WFhLTbVNzJc-00323-00088660-00088815 really successful too and they're much
WFhLTbVNzJc-00324-00088816-00089192 easier to manage than your traditional
WFhLTbVNzJc-00325-00089193-00089529 controllers and then we also have fully
WFhLTbVNzJc-00326-00089530-00089742 automated processes for spinning up
WFhLTbVNzJc-00327-00089743-00090285 virtual machines in our private cloud so
WFhLTbVNzJc-00328-00090286-00090492 that's that so I could talk about
WFhLTbVNzJc-00329-00090493-00090654 software networking for a while but I
WFhLTbVNzJc-00330-00090655-00090875 won't
WFhLTbVNzJc-00331-00090876-00091179 so our enablement team also since then
WFhLTbVNzJc-00332-00091180-00091438 they've instrumented a lot of mark
WFhLTbVNzJc-00333-00091439-00091767 monitoring in alerting so they use
WFhLTbVNzJc-00334-00091768-00092022 Cystic to respond to issues before our
WFhLTbVNzJc-00335-00092023-00092282 customers can be impacted by them so for
WFhLTbVNzJc-00336-00092283-00092355 example
WFhLTbVNzJc-00337-00092356-00092523 receive alerts when production resources
WFhLTbVNzJc-00338-00092524-00092733 exceed a certain threshold our threshold
WFhLTbVNzJc-00339-00092734-00093123 is 80% they also use uptight robot to
WFhLTbVNzJc-00340-00093124-00093318 detect when the South the site is
WFhLTbVNzJc-00341-00093319-00093549 unhealthy and they start working the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00342-00093550-00093828 issue before customers you know get
WFhLTbVNzJc-00343-00093829-00094566 affected so I'm gonna just open it up to
WFhLTbVNzJc-00344-00094567-00094743 questions real quick any questions on
WFhLTbVNzJc-00345-00094744-00095857 what we've talked about so far yes we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00346-00095858-00096090 sure seemed to be the path of least
WFhLTbVNzJc-00347-00096091-00096279 resistance for us quite honestly because
WFhLTbVNzJc-00348-00096280-00096486 we were very we're a very heavy
WFhLTbVNzJc-00349-00096487-00096741 Microsoft shop we have strong
WFhLTbVNzJc-00350-00096742-00097071 relationships with Microsoft and you
WFhLTbVNzJc-00351-00097072-00097200 know it's just technology we were
WFhLTbVNzJc-00352-00097201-00097539 familiar with we did evaluate AWS with
WFhLTbVNzJc-00353-00097540-00098112 that oh we did a study yep and we also
WFhLTbVNzJc-00354-00098113-00098472 do have a few things in the AWS cloud
WFhLTbVNzJc-00355-00098473-00098700 and we would we just started leveraging
WFhLTbVNzJc-00356-00098701-00099132 a bit of the Google cloud for some of
WFhLTbVNzJc-00357-00099133-00099687 our Adobe stuff I think so yeah we try
WFhLTbVNzJc-00358-00099688-00099921 to remain cloud agnostic vigeous Asher
WFhLTbVNzJc-00359-00099922-00100116 was I think the path of least resistance
WFhLTbVNzJc-00360-00100117-00100786 for us
WFhLTbVNzJc-00361-00100787-00101200 how many database did we migrate so
WFhLTbVNzJc-00362-00101201-00102073 ecommerce I would say hmm I don't know
WFhLTbVNzJc-00363-00102074-00102373 five or six maybe databases or all
WFhLTbVNzJc-00364-00102374-00105228 sequel yes
WFhLTbVNzJc-00365-00105229-00105484 that's an excellent technical question
WFhLTbVNzJc-00366-00105485-00105758 that I don't have the answer to but we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00367-00105758-00105944 can definitely take it offline and like
WFhLTbVNzJc-00368-00105945-00106249 I said my technical team is happy to
WFhLTbVNzJc-00369-00106250-00106373 meet with anybody that wants to learn
WFhLTbVNzJc-00370-00106374-00106711 more after this so I'm not sure
WFhLTbVNzJc-00371-00106713-00107243 Lee said you don't know do you okay yeah
WFhLTbVNzJc-00372-00107244-00107672 very good question yeah we needed our
WFhLTbVNzJc-00373-00107673-00107962 software architect that ARCT architected
WFhLTbVNzJc-00374-00107963-00108454 it that way for us okay so our focus has
WFhLTbVNzJc-00375-00108455-00108833 changed to since twenty seventeen so we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00376-00108833-00109024 used to be build everything in-house
WFhLTbVNzJc-00377-00109025-00109465 shop and we are moving to buy best and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00378-00109466-00109711 breathe solutions and integrate them
WFhLTbVNzJc-00379-00109712-00110083 with with our systems that we have so
WFhLTbVNzJc-00380-00110084-00110294 for example over the last two years we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00381-00110295-00110674 implemented six modules from JTA and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00382-00110675-00110887 they are in the upper right hand
WFhLTbVNzJc-00383-00110888-00111008 quadrant
WFhLTbVNzJc-00384-00111008-00111328 you know the Magic Quadrant for supply
WFhLTbVNzJc-00385-00111329-00111583 chain so it's we basically ripped and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00386-00111584-00111731 replaced all of our supply chain with
WFhLTbVNzJc-00387-00111732-00112108 JTA Salesforce we are in the process of
WFhLTbVNzJc-00388-00112109-00112300 implementing service cloud and commerce
WFhLTbVNzJc-00389-00112301-00112639 cloud service cloud is set to go live at
WFhLTbVNzJc-00390-00112640-00112834 the end of February and commerce cloud
WFhLTbVNzJc-00391-00112835-00113251 in June enter works is they have
WFhLTbVNzJc-00392-00113252-00113408 multiple products but we are going to
WFhLTbVNzJc-00393-00113408-00113608 use them for master data management and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00394-00113609-00113935 for PIM which is a product information
WFhLTbVNzJc-00395-00113936-00114233 manager so right now most of our our
WFhLTbVNzJc-00396-00114233-00114460 catalog information gets entered
WFhLTbVNzJc-00397-00114461-00114674 manually by people or through
WFhLTbVNzJc-00398-00114675-00114956 spreadsheets that people send us so the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00399-00114957-00115124 pin will allow us to have a lot more
WFhLTbVNzJc-00400-00115125-00115424 data integrity and automated processes
WFhLTbVNzJc-00401-00115425-00115585 for vendor to get information into our
WFhLTbVNzJc-00402-00115586-00115954 system and then we implemented Adobe for
WFhLTbVNzJc-00403-00115955-00116200 marketing so four of their products we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00404-00116201-00116350 implemented those over the last six
WFhLTbVNzJc-00405-00116351-00116519 months so as you can see we're
WFhLTbVNzJc-00406-00116520-00116976 implementing a lot of SAS solutions and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00407-00116977-00117388 really trying to rely less on it's hard
WFhLTbVNzJc-00408-00117389-00117538 to see ahead of the competition when
WFhLTbVNzJc-00409-00117539-00117835 you're you know you're trying to do it
WFhLTbVNzJc-00410-00117836-00117983 all yourself because the industry
WFhLTbVNzJc-00411-00117983-00118270 changes so rapidly question
WFhLTbVNzJc-00412-00118271-00118458 that you implemented this for your web
WFhLTbVNzJc-00413-00118459-00118659 base your website mm-hmm
WFhLTbVNzJc-00414-00118660-00119313 is that is the plan to have the website
WFhLTbVNzJc-00415-00119314-00119569 transactions be about the same as the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00416-00119570-00119886 in-person transactions or is it just so
WFhLTbVNzJc-00417-00119888-00120414 that you have a better website so the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00418-00120415-00120753 question is did we implement the website
WFhLTbVNzJc-00419-00120754-00120960 and the Ryoka tech chure and the updated
WFhLTbVNzJc-00420-00120961-00121156 technology because we want to expand it
WFhLTbVNzJc-00421-00121157-00121507 across the organization it was it we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00422-00121508-00121672 have actually expanded a lot of what
WFhLTbVNzJc-00423-00121673-00121843 we've done there so the Micra service
WFhLTbVNzJc-00424-00121844-00122052 layer that we built we use that for a
WFhLTbVNzJc-00425-00122053-00122233 lot of other applications and we will
WFhLTbVNzJc-00426-00122233-00122569 continue to and we've moved to very API
WFhLTbVNzJc-00427-00122570-00122883 centric through that process kind of
WFhLTbVNzJc-00428-00122884-00123193 kick-starting us along the way but we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00429-00123194-00123501 are actually now replacing that website
WFhLTbVNzJc-00430-00123502-00123765 that we implemented last september with
WFhLTbVNzJc-00431-00123766-00124048 salesforce commerce cloud so anybody
WFhLTbVNzJc-00432-00124049-00124213 that is you know in the e-commerce
WFhLTbVNzJc-00433-00124214-00124428 business you know it changes rapidly so
WFhLTbVNzJc-00434-00124429-00124590 you have to be soon as you release you
WFhLTbVNzJc-00435-00124591-00124686 have to figure out what you're going to
WFhLTbVNzJc-00436-00124688-00124783 do for the next release
WFhLTbVNzJc-00437-00124783-00125229 so we evaluated continuing to do it
WFhLTbVNzJc-00438-00125230-00125398 in-house or buy a product and we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00439-00125399-00125581 evaluated many different products and we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00440-00125582-00125784 ended up with salesforce commerce cloud
WFhLTbVNzJc-00441-00125785-00127029 so
WFhLTbVNzJc-00442-00127030-00127413 yeah so as far as revenue expectations
WFhLTbVNzJc-00443-00127414-00127583 for the web we know that that is going
WFhLTbVNzJc-00444-00127584-00127788 to be the fastest-growing it has this
WFhLTbVNzJc-00445-00127789-00128124 year was our projection was to grow that
WFhLTbVNzJc-00446-00128125-00128397 our e-commerce business by 16 percent
WFhLTbVNzJc-00447-00128398-00128796 and it grew 26 percent so we know that
WFhLTbVNzJc-00448-00128797-00129054 that trend is going to continue again
WFhLTbVNzJc-00449-00129055-00129246 it's 9 percent of our overall revenues
WFhLTbVNzJc-00450-00129247-00129410 so I think our brick-and-mortar stores
WFhLTbVNzJc-00451-00129411-00129693 we're also very focused on how to drive
WFhLTbVNzJc-00452-00129694-00129926 more traffic to the stores and create
WFhLTbVNzJc-00453-00129927-00130104 you know we kind of want to be the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00454-00130105-00130455 Disneyland of experience so I was just
WFhLTbVNzJc-00455-00130456-00130689 into my executive meeting today and we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00456-00130690-00130950 talked a lot about how to how to offer
WFhLTbVNzJc-00457-00130951-00131304 additional services that we don't have
WFhLTbVNzJc-00458-00131305-00131604 today in additional categories so we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00459-00131605-00131862 really want what we're a destination
WFhLTbVNzJc-00460-00131863-00132105 location we do plan to organically grow
WFhLTbVNzJc-00461-00132106-00132393 our brick-and-mortar store but I can see
WFhLTbVNzJc-00462-00132394-00132714 e-commerce it's hard to say where that's
WFhLTbVNzJc-00463-00132715-00133154 going to to end because right now our
WFhLTbVNzJc-00464-00133155-00133437 the new generation Gen Z and that they
WFhLTbVNzJc-00465-00133438-00133620 like going to your brick-and-mortar
WFhLTbVNzJc-00466-00133621-00133887 stores where you know the previous
WFhLTbVNzJc-00467-00133888-00134283 generation not so much so it's the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00468-00134284-00134562 Millennials don't talk to me and you
WFhLTbVNzJc-00469-00134563-00134745 know and I want to do everything
WFhLTbVNzJc-00470-00134746-00134907 self-serve and I mean there's nothing
WFhLTbVNzJc-00471-00134908-00135090 wrong with it but but that's how they
WFhLTbVNzJc-00472-00135091-00135297 were but now we're seeing that the gens
WFhLTbVNzJc-00473-00135298-00135507 II they want they want to be and they
WFhLTbVNzJc-00474-00135508-00135687 want to have conversation and they want
WFhLTbVNzJc-00475-00135688-00135921 to be in your stores so it's hard to say
WFhLTbVNzJc-00476-00135922-00136221 really but we're preparing for you know
WFhLTbVNzJc-00477-00136222-00136799 the load to be significant good question
WFhLTbVNzJc-00478-00136800-00137097 so as I mentioned that highlighted the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00479-00137098-00137429 need for us to change our overall
WFhLTbVNzJc-00480-00137430-00137811 technology foundation so our ERP system
WFhLTbVNzJc-00481-00137812-00138147 is a legacy system and it's a mainframe
WFhLTbVNzJc-00482-00138148-00138486 system with a technology that is not
WFhLTbVNzJc-00483-00138487-00138828 widely used it's a pic database so and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00484-00138829-00139065 pick basic is the programming language
WFhLTbVNzJc-00485-00139066-00139404 so and we know that it has taken us
WFhLTbVNzJc-00486-00139405-00139755 longer to develop because of that ERP
WFhLTbVNzJc-00487-00139756-00139986 system and it being the single source of
WFhLTbVNzJc-00488-00139987-00140228 truth the single source of data
WFhLTbVNzJc-00489-00140229-00140525 single source of business logic so
WFhLTbVNzJc-00490-00140526-00140684 everything we've built around it we've
WFhLTbVNzJc-00491-00140685-00140984 really built as just kind of a lens into
WFhLTbVNzJc-00492-00140985-00141371 that single source it does us all of the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00493-00141372-00141533 business logic it sends all of the data
WFhLTbVNzJc-00494-00141534-00141831 so we're moving away from that and I
WFhLTbVNzJc-00495-00141832-00141965 could talk about this for a whole nother
WFhLTbVNzJc-00496-00141966-00142187 session but we have an integration hub
WFhLTbVNzJc-00497-00142188-00142376 project that we're working on where
WFhLTbVNzJc-00498-00142377-00142550 we're going to bring the data up to a
WFhLTbVNzJc-00499-00142551-00142820 later layer that is accessible by all of
WFhLTbVNzJc-00500-00142821-00143132 the platforms around it and then start
WFhLTbVNzJc-00501-00143133-00143297 bringing the business logic up out of
WFhLTbVNzJc-00502-00143298-00143720 that ELP system - so that's another big
WFhLTbVNzJc-00503-00143721-00144212 big strategy ok so cloud center of
WFhLTbVNzJc-00504-00144213-00144519 excellence I want to talk about this we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00505-00144520-00145259 engaged with local yes well we've
WFhLTbVNzJc-00506-00145260-00145637 engaged with local will not really local
WFhLTbVNzJc-00507-00145638-00145808 they're kind of world worldwide but
WFhLTbVNzJc-00508-00145809-00146033 Capgemini Sogeti is the local group here
WFhLTbVNzJc-00509-00146034-00146303 that we're working with so we're doing
WFhLTbVNzJc-00510-00146304-00146456 it in tandem with them some of our
WFhLTbVNzJc-00511-00146457-00146609 resources are working on it and then
WFhLTbVNzJc-00512-00146610-00146879 some of theirs and we will be
WFhLTbVNzJc-00513-00146880-00147224 implementing MVP for that so the overall
WFhLTbVNzJc-00514-00147225-00147449 architecture and then including the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00515-00147450-00147728 customer data specifically in June of
WFhLTbVNzJc-00516-00147729-00147944 this year and then we have a long ways
WFhLTbVNzJc-00517-00147945-00148356 to go after that so we engaged with
WFhLTbVNzJc-00518-00148357-00148724 Jellico so a local partner of ours about
WFhLTbVNzJc-00519-00148725-00149000 a year and a half ago and we asked them
WFhLTbVNzJc-00520-00149001-00149225 to perform a readiness assessment you
WFhLTbVNzJc-00521-00149226-00149471 know how ready are we to go to the cloud
WFhLTbVNzJc-00522-00149472-00149720 so they did that and one of the things
WFhLTbVNzJc-00523-00149721-00149828 that came out of that was a
WFhLTbVNzJc-00524-00149829-00150059 recommendation to form a cloud center of
WFhLTbVNzJc-00525-00150060-00150369 excellence which we did so this is a
WFhLTbVNzJc-00526-00150370-00150557 cross-functional team we have
WFhLTbVNzJc-00527-00150558-00150881 infrastructure app dev DevOps operations
WFhLTbVNzJc-00528-00150882-00151097 security some of our solution architects
WFhLTbVNzJc-00529-00151098-00151490 from the different disciplines and their
WFhLTbVNzJc-00530-00151491-00151931 responsibilities initially were talking
WFhLTbVNzJc-00531-00151932-00152057 about governance how are we going to
WFhLTbVNzJc-00532-00152058-00152294 govern who does what in the cloud and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00533-00152295-00152591 what are standards so how does the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00534-00152592-00152816 developer for example go and spin up a
WFhLTbVNzJc-00535-00152817-00153071 virtual machine in the cloud what does
WFhLTbVNzJc-00536-00153072-00153187 that look like what are the standards
WFhLTbVNzJc-00537-00153188-00153469 what's the security
WFhLTbVNzJc-00538-00153470-00153742 then enablement and adoption so make it
WFhLTbVNzJc-00539-00153743-00153940 easy for people to understand how to
WFhLTbVNzJc-00540-00153941-00154195 leverage the cloud and kind of become
WFhLTbVNzJc-00541-00154196-00154510 cheerleaders or advocates for it and get
WFhLTbVNzJc-00542-00154511-00154942 the word out so here's so the activities
WFhLTbVNzJc-00543-00154943-00155269 that they do so we talked about the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00544-00155270-00155482 standards so that's for coding that's
WFhLTbVNzJc-00545-00155483-00155683 for architecture that's for security
WFhLTbVNzJc-00546-00155684-00155866 that's across the board what does it
WFhLTbVNzJc-00547-00155867-00156319 look like to go to be in the cloud so
WFhLTbVNzJc-00548-00156320-00156451 I'll let you read through some of that
WFhLTbVNzJc-00549-00156452-00156670 you know managing our maturity model
WFhLTbVNzJc-00550-00156671-00156828 setting the business architecture
WFhLTbVNzJc-00551-00156829-00157252 strategy talking about staff skills and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00552-00157253-00157504 staff training so who's going to be
WFhLTbVNzJc-00553-00157505-00157933 impacted next by a cloud cloud instance
WFhLTbVNzJc-00554-00157934-00158083 and what additional training do they
WFhLTbVNzJc-00555-00158084-00158302 need our infrastructure group for
WFhLTbVNzJc-00556-00158303-00158563 example and you know you have we had a
WFhLTbVNzJc-00557-00158564-00158725 lot of server and storage people their
WFhLTbVNzJc-00558-00158726-00158908 jobs have changed dramatically and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00559-00158909-00159166 they're becoming cloud engineers and so
WFhLTbVNzJc-00560-00159167-00159400 they've had to rescale and learn some
WFhLTbVNzJc-00561-00159401-00159838 new technology and then evangelize the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00562-00159839-00160084 cloud value and and connecting all of
WFhLTbVNzJc-00563-00160085-00160396 these clouds to get a 360-degree view of
WFhLTbVNzJc-00564-00160397-00160597 everything that we're doing at nfm
WFhLTbVNzJc-00565-00160598-00160786 everything that our customers are doing
WFhLTbVNzJc-00566-00160787-00161062 on these various platforms so they have
WFhLTbVNzJc-00567-00161063-00161353 a big job and this is some of their
WFhLTbVNzJc-00568-00161354-00161524 accomplishments and I'm not going to
WFhLTbVNzJc-00569-00161525-00161899 read this slide to you but Lisa actually
WFhLTbVNzJc-00570-00161900-00162253 she facilitates this this group on a
WFhLTbVNzJc-00571-00162254-00162475 weekly basis they meet every Tuesday and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00572-00162476-00162718 one of the things they do is we have a
WFhLTbVNzJc-00573-00162719-00163003 intake review process where everybody in
WFhLTbVNzJc-00574-00163004-00163327 the organization submits their their
WFhLTbVNzJc-00575-00163328-00163522 requests or their enhancements or their
WFhLTbVNzJc-00576-00163523-00163803 ideas through this intake review process
WFhLTbVNzJc-00577-00163804-00164071 to come to IT and so they review
WFhLTbVNzJc-00578-00164072-00164308 anything new from the previous week and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00579-00164309-00164572 see if there's a cloud component to it
WFhLTbVNzJc-00580-00164573-00164793 and if there is then they get involved
WFhLTbVNzJc-00581-00164794-00165091 and they also look at things like what
WFhLTbVNzJc-00582-00165092-00165307 contracts are coming up for renewal and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00583-00165308-00165619 is there an opportunity to use a SAS
WFhLTbVNzJc-00584-00165620-00165808 solution a really good example of that
WFhLTbVNzJc-00585-00165809-00166117 is we use JD Edwards for our financials
WFhLTbVNzJc-00586-00166118-00166501 and we just with our most recent upgrade
WFhLTbVNzJc-00587-00166502-00166780 they finally had a SAS solution that met
WFhLTbVNzJc-00588-00166781-00166813 our new
WFhLTbVNzJc-00589-00166814-00167149 means they're early ones didn't so we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00590-00167150-00167497 took advantage of that and so they also
WFhLTbVNzJc-00591-00167498-00167818 have spreadsheets that they that they
WFhLTbVNzJc-00592-00167819-00168172 use for projecting costs and ROI does it
WFhLTbVNzJc-00593-00168173-00168511 make sense to move this application to
WFhLTbVNzJc-00594-00168512-00168697 the cloud or this database to the cloud
WFhLTbVNzJc-00595-00168698-00169036 or this payload to the cloud so they
WFhLTbVNzJc-00596-00169037-00169255 have a big job and they have done a
WFhLTbVNzJc-00597-00169256-00169555 remarkable job I gave them some
WFhLTbVNzJc-00598-00169556-00169774 objectives for the first year and they
WFhLTbVNzJc-00599-00169775-00169909 they killed them right out of the gate
WFhLTbVNzJc-00600-00169910-00170029 and they're doing everything you know
WFhLTbVNzJc-00601-00170030-00170149 and now they've got a really nice
WFhLTbVNzJc-00602-00170150-00170374 cadence and they're working really well
WFhLTbVNzJc-00603-00170375-00170947 together so I guess I didn't really call
WFhLTbVNzJc-00604-00170948-00171106 out the fact that we have a hybrid cloud
WFhLTbVNzJc-00605-00171107-00171505 but we do so we use the public cloud the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00606-00171506-00171754 private cloud and you know traditional
WFhLTbVNzJc-00607-00171755-00172054 infrastructure so our ERP system is
WFhLTbVNzJc-00608-00172055-00172225 again it's a homegrown system its
WFhLTbVNzJc-00609-00172226-00172390 traditional infrastructure in a data
WFhLTbVNzJc-00610-00172391-00172699 center in papillion but then we also
WFhLTbVNzJc-00611-00172700-00172957 have our private cloud and for anybody
WFhLTbVNzJc-00612-00172958-00173092 that doesn't know what that is that's
WFhLTbVNzJc-00613-00173093-00173329 really your assets you know your network
WFhLTbVNzJc-00614-00173330-00173572 your server your storage your assets
WFhLTbVNzJc-00615-00173573-00173878 that sit behind your own firewall but
WFhLTbVNzJc-00616-00173879-00174208 you've also made them be able to coexist
WFhLTbVNzJc-00617-00174209-00174523 on one piece of equipment to make it
WFhLTbVNzJc-00618-00174524-00174742 easy to leverage or leverage some of the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00619-00174743-00174970 same capabilities you have in the public
WFhLTbVNzJc-00620-00174971-00175255 cloud to spin up instances of servers
WFhLTbVNzJc-00621-00175256-00175630 and databases very quickly but on behind
WFhLTbVNzJc-00622-00175631-00176026 your own firewalls so the primary
WFhLTbVNzJc-00623-00176027-00176347 advantage of being a hybrid solution is
WFhLTbVNzJc-00624-00176348-00176722 really agility because if you're playing
WFhLTbVNzJc-00625-00176723-00176965 in all three of those worlds and and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00626-00176966-00177139 something comes up it makes it pretty
WFhLTbVNzJc-00627-00177140-00177385 easy to know where it should live and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00628-00177386-00177529 you don't have to you know jump through
WFhLTbVNzJc-00629-00177530-00177694 a bunch of Hoops to figure out which
WFhLTbVNzJc-00630-00177695-00177958 environment is the best so we really
WFhLTbVNzJc-00631-00177959-00178120 encourage and I and I think through the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00632-00178121-00178336 work we've done with a lot of other
WFhLTbVNzJc-00633-00178337-00178507 companies and people I've collaborated
WFhLTbVNzJc-00634-00178508-00178687 with hybrid cloud seems to work really
WFhLTbVNzJc-00635-00178688-00179032 well for people so some of the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00636-00179033-00179317 advantages are scalability and in the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00637-00179318-00179674 public cloud so yeah so this is public
WFhLTbVNzJc-00638-00179675-00179956 cloud specifically so scalability it's
WFhLTbVNzJc-00639-00179957-00180076 very easy
WFhLTbVNzJc-00640-00180077-00180346 to ramp up and ramp down quickly so we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00641-00180347-00180655 did that over the holidays we it's a
WFhLTbVNzJc-00642-00180656-00180865 very very busy shopping season for us so
WFhLTbVNzJc-00643-00180866-00181357 we scaled up our as your instances and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00644-00181358-00181680 then we scaled down after the holidays
WFhLTbVNzJc-00645-00181681-00181990 lower capital expense because you don't
WFhLTbVNzJc-00646-00181991-00182221 have that upfront cost of buying the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00647-00182222-00182569 traditional hardware and storage so you
WFhLTbVNzJc-00648-00182570-00182698 don't have you don't have that initial
WFhLTbVNzJc-00649-00182699-00183169 capex reliability and you know not
WFhLTbVNzJc-00650-00183170-00183385 everybody's infrastructure is as
WFhLTbVNzJc-00651-00183386-00183604 reliable as the cloud is you know they
WFhLTbVNzJc-00652-00183605-00183874 they pretty much have to guarantee four
WFhLTbVNzJc-00653-00183875-00184138 nines and you know from what we've seen
WFhLTbVNzJc-00654-00184139-00184555 our our SLA has been intact so it's been
WFhLTbVNzJc-00655-00184556-00184699 it's been really good and we had our
WFhLTbVNzJc-00656-00184700-00185173 website had 99.98% uptime last year so
WFhLTbVNzJc-00657-00185174-00185584 we're very happy with that disadvantages
WFhLTbVNzJc-00658-00185585-00185767 so you have less control over the you
WFhLTbVNzJc-00659-00185768-00186031 know data security so our data can live
WFhLTbVNzJc-00660-00186032-00186247 in multiple data centers in the azure
WFhLTbVNzJc-00661-00186248-00186583 space and you know so you don't you kind
WFhLTbVNzJc-00662-00186584-00186862 of lose a little bit of control and you
WFhLTbVNzJc-00663-00186863-00187039 know some people say that the cloud is
WFhLTbVNzJc-00664-00187040-00187204 more secure and some people say it's not
WFhLTbVNzJc-00665-00187205-00187480 so I guess it's it's up for debate I
WFhLTbVNzJc-00666-00187481-00187759 feel like it's secure but we do keep our
WFhLTbVNzJc-00667-00187760-00188227 financial data behind in our own private
WFhLTbVNzJc-00668-00188228-00188644 network higher operational expenditure
WFhLTbVNzJc-00669-00188645-00188986 so while you have a lower capex getting
WFhLTbVNzJc-00670-00188987-00189190 into the public cloud you could spend
WFhLTbVNzJc-00671-00189191-00189502 more in the public cloud and you know
WFhLTbVNzJc-00672-00189503-00189667 there's ways to control that for sure
WFhLTbVNzJc-00673-00189668-00189846 and we've instrumented a lot of
WFhLTbVNzJc-00674-00189847-00190159 solutions to alert us if something caps
WFhLTbVNzJc-00675-00190160-00190375 or - you know something's running out of
WFhLTbVNzJc-00676-00190376-00190627 control we also do things like spin down
WFhLTbVNzJc-00677-00190628-00190900 our dev environments over you know
WFhLTbVNzJc-00678-00190901-00191224 non-work times and there's way to ways
WFhLTbVNzJc-00679-00191225-00191449 to manage it but I have talked to a lot
WFhLTbVNzJc-00680-00191450-00191602 of people that said their cost they
WFhLTbVNzJc-00681-00191603-00191722 thought they're going to save money and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00682-00191723-00191947 they ended up skyrocketing so yes
WFhLTbVNzJc-00683-00191948-00192112 there's ways to manage that you have to
WFhLTbVNzJc-00684-00192113-00192514 be very careful and then I will have to
WFhLTbVNzJc-00685-00192515-00192804 say it's been difficult to find Talent
WFhLTbVNzJc-00686-00192805-00193024 which I think there's just an overall
WFhLTbVNzJc-00687-00193025-00193276 technical talent shortage but to find
WFhLTbVNzJc-00688-00193277-00193465 people with experience
WFhLTbVNzJc-00689-00193466-00193756 like DevOps or cloud experience it's
WFhLTbVNzJc-00690-00193757-00193930 it's been tough so I don't know if
WFhLTbVNzJc-00691-00193931-00194035 anybody else has had that experience
WFhLTbVNzJc-00692-00194036-00194263 yeah I see some heads nodding
WFhLTbVNzJc-00693-00194264-00194655 definitely
WFhLTbVNzJc-00694-00194656-00194964 so some advantages to the private cloud
WFhLTbVNzJc-00695-00194965-00195277 security obviously you have more control
WFhLTbVNzJc-00696-00195278-00195435 when it's behind your firework or
WFhLTbVNzJc-00697-00195436-00195862 fireworks your firewalls potentially
WFhLTbVNzJc-00698-00195863-00196077 lower total cost of ownership
WFhLTbVNzJc-00699-00196078-00196435 potentially again you have a little bit
WFhLTbVNzJc-00700-00196436-00196657 more initial investment but maybe lower
WFhLTbVNzJc-00701-00196658-00196993 costs keeping it on Prem greater control
WFhLTbVNzJc-00702-00196994-00197446 and customization flexibility - if you
WFhLTbVNzJc-00703-00197447-00197665 want to burst into the public cloud it's
WFhLTbVNzJc-00704-00197666-00197833 it's easier to do it if you've got
WFhLTbVNzJc-00705-00197834-00197983 things virtualized in your own private
WFhLTbVNzJc-00706-00197984-00198280 network disadvantages some people would
WFhLTbVNzJc-00707-00198281-00198562 say higher costs you know it's kind of I
WFhLTbVNzJc-00708-00198563-00198856 pulled these from the internet so you
WFhLTbVNzJc-00709-00198857-00199018 know it's a little bit higher costs or
WFhLTbVNzJc-00710-00199019-00199165 lower costs I think it could be either
WFhLTbVNzJc-00711-00199166-00199461 depending on how you manage it
WFhLTbVNzJc-00712-00199462-00199693 responsibilities so it takes more people
WFhLTbVNzJc-00713-00199694-00199846 right and one of the things that we've
WFhLTbVNzJc-00714-00199847-00200215 loved about our SAS applications and the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00715-00200216-00200425 public cloud is that we don't have to
WFhLTbVNzJc-00716-00200426-00200605 have all of those people that are you
WFhLTbVNzJc-00717-00200606-00200764 know keeping the light switches on and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00718-00200765-00200962 keeping upgrades and you know doing the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00719-00200963-00201109 maintenance and the patches that it's
WFhLTbVNzJc-00720-00201110-00201543 done for us so so that's been nice and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00721-00201544-00201958 then less flexibility it was also a
WFhLTbVNzJc-00722-00201959-00202249 call-out of your being in your private
WFhLTbVNzJc-00723-00202250-00202900 cloud ok so here's some kind of typical
WFhLTbVNzJc-00724-00202901-00203221 scenarios for a hybrid cloud so if you
WFhLTbVNzJc-00725-00203222-00203434 have dynamic or frequently changing
WFhLTbVNzJc-00726-00203435-00203935 workloads sometimes it's nice to be able
WFhLTbVNzJc-00727-00203936-00204160 to use the hybrid some of that you know
WFhLTbVNzJc-00728-00204161-00204430 the stuff that doesn't change as much
WFhLTbVNzJc-00729-00204431-00204607 could live more in the public cloud and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00730-00204608-00204844 the stuff that's more secure or changes
WFhLTbVNzJc-00731-00204844-00205190 a lot could be in your private network
WFhLTbVNzJc-00732-00205191-00205423 separating critical workloads from less
WFhLTbVNzJc-00733-00205423-00205713 sensitive workloads again the less
WFhLTbVNzJc-00734-00205714-00205923 sensitive workloads could be maybe in
WFhLTbVNzJc-00735-00205925-00206152 the public cloud and the the critical or
WFhLTbVNzJc-00736-00206153-00206332 sensitive data could be in your private
WFhLTbVNzJc-00737-00206333-00206659 cloud big data processing it's nice to
WFhLTbVNzJc-00738-00206660-00206860 be able to do some of that
WFhLTbVNzJc-00739-00206861-00207154 be processing or storage in the cloud
WFhLTbVNzJc-00740-00207155-00207709 where it's very affordable and then also
WFhLTbVNzJc-00741-00207710-00207871 when you're in a hybrid cloud moving to
WFhLTbVNzJc-00742-00207871-00208042 the cloud incrementally and at your own
WFhLTbVNzJc-00743-00208042-00208387 pace once you kind of have your foot in
WFhLTbVNzJc-00744-00208388-00208627 the door it's easy it's much easier to
WFhLTbVNzJc-00745-00208628-00208882 be able to figure out what what should
WFhLTbVNzJc-00746-00208883-00209194 go and what should it temporary
WFhLTbVNzJc-00747-00209194-00209425 processing capacity needs so it's nice
WFhLTbVNzJc-00748-00209426-00209662 to be able to just spin things up and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00749-00209663-00210016 spin things down in the in the public
WFhLTbVNzJc-00750-00210017-00210246 cloud and then flexibility for the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00751-00210248-00210529 future so again if you're in that hybrid
WFhLTbVNzJc-00752-00210530-00210811 environment you're in a pretty flexible
WFhLTbVNzJc-00753-00210812-00211153 position to be able to use speed up what
WFhLTbVNzJc-00754-00211154-00211335 you need
WFhLTbVNzJc-00755-00211336-00211642 so just hybrid cloud is popular for a
WFhLTbVNzJc-00756-00211642-00211819 reason unless you have clear-cut needs
WFhLTbVNzJc-00757-00211819-00212008 that are fulfilled by only public cloud
WFhLTbVNzJc-00758-00212009-00212233 solution or a private cloud solution why
WFhLTbVNzJc-00759-00212234-00212455 limit your options choose hybrid cloud
WFhLTbVNzJc-00760-00212456-00212694 and you can tap the advantages of both
WFhLTbVNzJc-00761-00212696-00213129 worlds so what our architect looks
WFhLTbVNzJc-00762-00213130-00213367 architecture looks like now so we went
WFhLTbVNzJc-00763-00213367-00213601 from mostly homegrown systems as I
WFhLTbVNzJc-00764-00213602-00213921 mentioned monolithic code bases manual
WFhLTbVNzJc-00765-00213923-00214237 testing practices no encode unit tests
WFhLTbVNzJc-00766-00214238-00214496 on print private clouds and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00767-00214498-00214842 infrastructure as a service to best in
WFhLTbVNzJc-00768-00214844-00215239 breed SAS solutions and platforms micro
WFhLTbVNzJc-00769-00215240-00215544 services in code unit tests automated
WFhLTbVNzJc-00770-00215546-00215814 testing a CI CD pipeline
WFhLTbVNzJc-00771-00215815-00216100 software-defined networking and a hybrid
WFhLTbVNzJc-00772-00216101-00216427 cloud architecture so and we've done all
WFhLTbVNzJc-00773-00216428-00216796 of this in the course of about three and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00774-00216796-00216958 a half years so we've taken on a lot of
WFhLTbVNzJc-00775-00216959-00217273 change in our core technology and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00776-00217273-00217617 infrastructure which has meant a lot of
WFhLTbVNzJc-00777-00217619-00218131 rescaling of staff to some
WFhLTbVNzJc-00778-00218132-00218335 recommendations on how to get started
WFhLTbVNzJc-00779-00218336-00218554 these are just mine but I'd love to hear
WFhLTbVNzJc-00780-00218555-00218707 from other people that have also been on
WFhLTbVNzJc-00781-00218708-00219117 a journey when I'm done yapping and see
WFhLTbVNzJc-00782-00219119-00219415 what see what you would recommend so I
WFhLTbVNzJc-00783-00219416-00219642 really appreciated the the readiness
WFhLTbVNzJc-00784-00219644-00220119 assessment because we we didn't know you
WFhLTbVNzJc-00785-00220121-00220225 know how how
WFhLTbVNzJc-00786-00220226-00220419 sure we were if we were ready to move
WFhLTbVNzJc-00787-00220421-00220582 into the cloud we didn't know what we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00788-00220583-00220786 didn't know so having a third party to
WFhLTbVNzJc-00789-00220787-00220942 come in and perform that unbiased
WFhLTbVNzJc-00790-00220942-00221257 assessment of your current state I would
WFhLTbVNzJc-00791-00221258-00221404 strongly recommend that and I know
WFhLTbVNzJc-00792-00221405-00221611 there's a lot of great agencies in our
WFhLTbVNzJc-00793-00221612-00221817 group tonight that perform those kind of
WFhLTbVNzJc-00794-00221819-00222265 services and then forming a cloud center
WFhLTbVNzJc-00795-00222266-00222439 of excellence so if it's determined that
WFhLTbVNzJc-00796-00222440-00222655 you are ready I think that cloud center
WFhLTbVNzJc-00797-00222656-00222814 of excellence has been a key to our
WFhLTbVNzJc-00798-00222815-00223071 success because otherwise people are
WFhLTbVNzJc-00799-00223073-00223288 kind of nickel and diming it along the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00800-00223289-00223669 way if you know but if they've got time
WFhLTbVNzJc-00801-00223669-00223951 set aside each week to focus on this I'm
WFhLTbVNzJc-00802-00223952-00224257 you're more apt to move move the needle
WFhLTbVNzJc-00803-00224258-00224578 quicker change management is really
WFhLTbVNzJc-00804-00224579-00224728 important because when you talk about
WFhLTbVNzJc-00805-00224729-00225016 things like going to the cloud and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00806-00225017-00225415 you've got a staff of people that you
WFhLTbVNzJc-00807-00225416-00225580 know manage server and storage for
WFhLTbVNzJc-00808-00225581-00225841 example it's scary for them so getting
WFhLTbVNzJc-00809-00225842-00226032 out in front of that anticipating that
WFhLTbVNzJc-00810-00226033-00226258 you know maybe that angst and just
WFhLTbVNzJc-00811-00226259-00226492 letting them know that this this doesn't
WFhLTbVNzJc-00812-00226492-00226612 mean that we're eliminating your
WFhLTbVNzJc-00813-00226613-00226732 position but you're going to be Reese
WFhLTbVNzJc-00814-00226733-00226936 killed so hopefully you know people are
WFhLTbVNzJc-00815-00226937-00227148 up for that and willing to take and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00816-00227150-00227488 learn some new skills and move into some
WFhLTbVNzJc-00817-00227489-00228408 new technology areas hmm country Thunder
WFhLTbVNzJc-00818-00228409-00228642 don't don't try to lift and shift
WFhLTbVNzJc-00819-00228644-00228976 everything so I think the the horror
WFhLTbVNzJc-00820-00228977-00229273 stories I've heard about moving to the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00821-00229273-00229456 cloud are the people that tried to just
WFhLTbVNzJc-00822-00229457-00229684 literally lift and shift everything to
WFhLTbVNzJc-00823-00229685-00229966 the cloud and they ended up spending a
WFhLTbVNzJc-00824-00229967-00230221 fortune because they didn't they didn't
WFhLTbVNzJc-00825-00230221-00230419 really tech their solutions to use the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00826-00230419-00230602 power of the services that live in the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00827-00230603-00231031 cloud and you know that I just I don't
WFhLTbVNzJc-00828-00231032-00231289 encourage lift and shift especially not
WFhLTbVNzJc-00829-00231290-00231421 everything there might be some things
WFhLTbVNzJc-00830-00231421-00231616 that you can lift and shift but I think
WFhLTbVNzJc-00831-00231617-00231942 it takes a careful architectural look
WFhLTbVNzJc-00832-00231942-00232294 watch your consumption closely so be
WFhLTbVNzJc-00833-00232294-00232513 very aware get the tools that you need
WFhLTbVNzJc-00834-00232514-00232869 to alert you when things start getting
WFhLTbVNzJc-00835-00232871-00233179 out of control and and be creative on
WFhLTbVNzJc-00836-00233180-00233392 ways that you can save money to I mean
WFhLTbVNzJc-00837-00233392-00233596 like I said that we spend on our art
WFhLTbVNzJc-00838-00233596-00233883 environment when we don't need it and we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00839-00233884-00234178 spin down our production resources when
WFhLTbVNzJc-00840-00234179-00234348 it's a slower time of year that type of
WFhLTbVNzJc-00841-00234350-00234562 stuff so there's ways to manage it
WFhLTbVNzJc-00842-00234563-00234937 effectively again leveraging appropriate
WFhLTbVNzJc-00843-00234938-00235134 tooling to manage costs and then think
WFhLTbVNzJc-00844-00235135-00235501 agnostic I think I don't want to get
WFhLTbVNzJc-00845-00235502-00236155 into into a situation where it's anybody
WFhLTbVNzJc-00846-00236156-00236542 from Microsoft here where Microsoft
WFhLTbVNzJc-00847-00236542-00236701 knows that they're the only player right
WFhLTbVNzJc-00848-00236702-00236863 I mean it's good to have leverage and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00849-00236864-00237039 it's good to keep your options open
WFhLTbVNzJc-00850-00237040-00237319 because they're not all of the services
WFhLTbVNzJc-00851-00237319-00237514 are the same across the clouds right so
WFhLTbVNzJc-00852-00237515-00237792 AWS has some amazing services that we're
WFhLTbVNzJc-00853-00237794-00238083 taking advantage of in our bi and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00854-00238084-00238279 analytics space that Asscher don't
WFhLTbVNzJc-00855-00238280-00238569 doesn't offer so I mean cost wise I
WFhLTbVNzJc-00856-00238571-00238710 think they're probably both about the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00857-00238711-00238963 same but it's good to keep your options
WFhLTbVNzJc-00858-00238964-00239641 open so accomplishments will prove to be
WFhLTbVNzJc-00859-00239642-00239881 a journey not a destination and I and I
WFhLTbVNzJc-00860-00239882-00240190 think I like that quote by Eisenhower
WFhLTbVNzJc-00861-00240191-00240342 because I think we all know this is an
WFhLTbVNzJc-00862-00240344-00240613 evolution and you don't just get there
WFhLTbVNzJc-00863-00240614-00240873 and you stop so we'll continue this
WFhLTbVNzJc-00864-00240875-00241351 journey and you know I would guess that
WFhLTbVNzJc-00865-00241352-00241519 probably a year from now we'll our
WFhLTbVNzJc-00866-00241519-00241663 architecture again will look much
WFhLTbVNzJc-00867-00241664-00241969 different than it does today as many of
WFhLTbVNzJc-00868-00241969-00242167 us are in IT so we know that it's a
WFhLTbVNzJc-00869-00242167-00242394 constantly changing environment and the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00870-00242396-00242578 tools and technology will continue to
WFhLTbVNzJc-00871-00242579-00243019 evolve as well and I think that is what
WFhLTbVNzJc-00872-00243019-00243325 I have so what questions do you have for
WFhLTbVNzJc-00873-00243326-00244323 me
WFhLTbVNzJc-00874-00244325-00244644 we were hosted at yes so the question
WFhLTbVNzJc-00875-00244646-00244869 was for infrastructure-as-a-service what
WFhLTbVNzJc-00876-00244871-00245415 did we use we were hosted at first fnts
WFhLTbVNzJc-00877-00245416-00246750 downtown
WFhLTbVNzJc-00878-00246751-00247529 yeah yeah
WFhLTbVNzJc-00879-00247530-00248196 yeah yeah I can't answer that see I
WFhLTbVNzJc-00880-00248198-00248301 should have had one of my technical
WFhLTbVNzJc-00881-00248302-00248551 people here I'm sorry but we can
WFhLTbVNzJc-00882-00248552-00248701 definitely circle back around with you
WFhLTbVNzJc-00883-00248702-00248914 if you have a card I can circle back
WFhLTbVNzJc-00884-00248915-00249048 around with you with conversation on
WFhLTbVNzJc-00885-00249050-00250367 that yes
WFhLTbVNzJc-00886-00250367-00250717 so we had HR involved from a mostly from
WFhLTbVNzJc-00887-00250719-00251044 a corporate communication perspective so
WFhLTbVNzJc-00888-00251046-00251231 we try to be very transparent at the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00889-00251232-00251410 Mart about everything we've got going on
WFhLTbVNzJc-00890-00251411-00251765 so they they kind of helped with the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00891-00251766-00251971 crafting the corporate communication
WFhLTbVNzJc-00892-00251973-00252200 they are always a resource for us if we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00893-00252201-00252359 feel like we need them to come in and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00894-00252360-00252610 help council staff fortunately we've had
WFhLTbVNzJc-00895-00252611-00253096 pretty good adoption we've had a few
WFhLTbVNzJc-00896-00253098-00253232 people in our infrastructure groups that
WFhLTbVNzJc-00897-00253233-00253475 have been pretty nervous but they've as
WFhLTbVNzJc-00898-00253476-00253628 soon as they started learning the new
WFhLTbVNzJc-00899-00253629-00253867 skills like scripting and and that type
WFhLTbVNzJc-00900-00253869-00254204 of stuff they got kind of excited so HR
WFhLTbVNzJc-00901-00254205-00254528 hasn't helped with that but they do help
WFhLTbVNzJc-00902-00254529-00254681 with the change management across the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00903-00254682-00254915 enterprise for big projects that we're
WFhLTbVNzJc-00904-00254916-00255125 doing like our Salesforce projects and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00905-00255126-00255353 pin and enter works they help with the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00906-00255354-00255542 corporate communication and and the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00907-00255542-00256637 change management part of those
WFhLTbVNzJc-00908-00256638-00256871 yes yes actually I think we have a
WFhLTbVNzJc-00909-00256871-00257173 certification course this week or next
WFhLTbVNzJc-00910-00257175-00257360 as your certification course and yeah
WFhLTbVNzJc-00911-00257361-00257546 they they get a lot of training and we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00912-00257546-00257909 take advantage of there oh it's not
WFhLTbVNzJc-00913-00257910-00258119 premiere anymore it changed in October
WFhLTbVNzJc-00914-00258119-00258492 whatever they're their elite kind of
WFhLTbVNzJc-00915-00258494-00259112 training and support program we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00916-00259113-00259267 typically have enough that we fill up
WFhLTbVNzJc-00917-00259269-00259450 the whole class they'll send us the link
WFhLTbVNzJc-00918-00259451-00259709 maybe a day or so in advance and we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00919-00259710-00260344 typically will fill up a class okay
WFhLTbVNzJc-00920-00260344-00260764 because you want to attend to Beth okay
WFhLTbVNzJc-00921-00260765-00262223 okay yes
WFhLTbVNzJc-00922-00262224-00262657 yeah so the entire timeline from when we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00923-00262658-00262909 kicked it off to when we implemented was
WFhLTbVNzJc-00924-00262910-00263288 about two and a half years and we did
WFhLTbVNzJc-00925-00263289-00263648 have to maintain our current or our what
WFhLTbVNzJc-00926-00263649-00263882 was our current website but what we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00927-00263883-00264155 tried to do was minimize the amount of
WFhLTbVNzJc-00928-00264156-00264440 features we added to that website and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00929-00264441-00264620 there were some things we just simply
WFhLTbVNzJc-00930-00264621-00264815 had to do and of course break fix things
WFhLTbVNzJc-00931-00264816-00265094 you had to do and but most of our staff
WFhLTbVNzJc-00932-00265095-00265367 we transitioned to working on the new
WFhLTbVNzJc-00933-00265368-00265607 site and we had one one small team that
WFhLTbVNzJc-00934-00265608-00265832 was responsible for keeping you know
WFhLTbVNzJc-00935-00265833-00266051 kind of keeping the lights on and then I
WFhLTbVNzJc-00936-00266052-00266318 will say now that we are in the middle
WFhLTbVNzJc-00937-00266319-00266498 of implementing commerce cloud well
WFhLTbVNzJc-00938-00266499-00266710 we're in heavy into development right
WFhLTbVNzJc-00939-00266711-00267056 now and we have leveraged remote
WFhLTbVNzJc-00940-00267057-00267457 resources in India that have been great
WFhLTbVNzJc-00941-00267458-00267767 about keeping our current site that we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00942-00267768-00268081 implemented last September refreshed and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00943-00268082-00268451 you know any brake fix and they're we're
WFhLTbVNzJc-00944-00268452-00268616 trying not to add again a lot of new
WFhLTbVNzJc-00945-00268617-00268919 features to that website but it it's
WFhLTbVNzJc-00946-00268920-00269093 still an amazing tool and it needs to
WFhLTbVNzJc-00947-00269094-00269383 run well in that so that's that's been
WFhLTbVNzJc-00948-00269384-00269682 nice being able to leverage that group
WFhLTbVNzJc-00949-00269683-00270402 yes
WFhLTbVNzJc-00950-00270403-00270708 yes so the question is what's the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00951-00270709-00271008 feedback been like from our customers we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00952-00271009-00271321 have less than three second response
WFhLTbVNzJc-00953-00271322-00271687 time I should have included that and so
WFhLTbVNzJc-00954-00271688-00271857 of course they loved that and then they
WFhLTbVNzJc-00955-00271858-00272056 speak with their wallets right and and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00956-00272057-00272218 the conversion rates our conversion
WFhLTbVNzJc-00957-00272219-00272488 rates have gone from the old site was
WFhLTbVNzJc-00958-00272489-00272856 about 1% and we're up above sometimes we
WFhLTbVNzJc-00959-00272857-00273048 hit like 5% conversion which is
WFhLTbVNzJc-00960-00273049-00273391 incredible in the e-commerce space and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00961-00273392-00273582 so they're spending more we've grown
WFhLTbVNzJc-00962-00273583-00273844 from 7% of the revenue to 9% of the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00963-00273845-00274150 revenue with the new site and again some
WFhLTbVNzJc-00964-00274151-00274444 of that is is the generation right and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00965-00274445-00274630 they want to shop on on the website too
WFhLTbVNzJc-00966-00274631-00274942 I will say we've also reduced our
WFhLTbVNzJc-00967-00274943-00275266 expenses on average by about forty forty
WFhLTbVNzJc-00968-00275267-00275455 thousand dollars a month moving from
WFhLTbVNzJc-00969-00275456-00275752 infrastructure as a service to Azure so
WFhLTbVNzJc-00970-00275753-00276009 like the month of December there the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00971-00276010-00276280 disparate you know the it wasn't that
WFhLTbVNzJc-00972-00276281-00276466 much but then there have been some
WFhLTbVNzJc-00973-00276467-00276643 months where we've saved upwards of
WFhLTbVNzJc-00974-00276644-00277015 60,000 from the previous year so it's
WFhLTbVNzJc-00975-00277016-00277878 been a good cost savings for us as well
WFhLTbVNzJc-00976-00277879-00278380 interacting with so our contact center
WFhLTbVNzJc-00977-00278381-00278800 agents use chat and on the website Lisa
WFhLTbVNzJc-00978-00278801-00279154 I don't know I don't we don't on our
WFhLTbVNzJc-00979-00279155-00279379 website but I think that commerce cloud
WFhLTbVNzJc-00980-00279380-00279622 has chat as a feature I'm not exactly
WFhLTbVNzJc-00981-00279623-00279807 sure how that's going to work if our
WFhLTbVNzJc-00982-00279808-00280167 service agents will man that or not but
WFhLTbVNzJc-00983-00280168-00280444 what I'm excited about is is the notion
WFhLTbVNzJc-00984-00280445-00280750 of a chat bot that can you know you can
WFhLTbVNzJc-00985-00280751-00280924 interact with a bot and it's almost like
WFhLTbVNzJc-00986-00280925-00281155 interacting with a human being until
WFhLTbVNzJc-00987-00281156-00281392 they can't answer and then it does get
WFhLTbVNzJc-00988-00281393-00281638 passed to a human being so that that's
WFhLTbVNzJc-00989-00281639-00281749 part of Commerce cloud and it's also
WFhLTbVNzJc-00990-00281750-00282858 part of service cloud yeah calling it
WFhLTbVNzJc-00991-00282859-00283441 there it it part of it is in the cloud
WFhLTbVNzJc-00992-00283442-00283669 so it uses the micro service layer so
WFhLTbVNzJc-00993-00283670-00283860 all of the API is in the communication
WFhLTbVNzJc-00994-00283861-00284116 back to our ERP system that's all reused
WFhLTbVNzJc-00995-00284117-00284329 it uses some of the search and
WFhLTbVNzJc-00996-00284330-00284532 navigation that's on our website which
WFhLTbVNzJc-00997-00284533-00285100 is hawk search and but and it shares the
WFhLTbVNzJc-00998-00285101-00285469 database but the UI part of it it it
WFhLTbVNzJc-00999-00285470-00285735 started out as a Windows 10 application
WFhLTbVNzJc-01000-00285736-00286008 and it's actually a different code base
WFhLTbVNzJc-01001-00286009-00286180 than the website some of them are shared
WFhLTbVNzJc-01002-00286181-00286464 services like the credit app for example
WFhLTbVNzJc-01003-00286465-00286873 but what our sales people need on their
WFhLTbVNzJc-01004-00286874-00287056 tablet is so much different than what
WFhLTbVNzJc-01005-00287057-00287262 the retail customer needs on a website
WFhLTbVNzJc-01006-00287263-00287857 so there's a we reuse what we can and
WFhLTbVNzJc-01007-00287858-00288084 then some of it is in our virtual or our
WFhLTbVNzJc-01008-00288085-00289579 private network yes
WFhLTbVNzJc-01009-00289580-00289978 um well yes there's there's a lot of
WFhLTbVNzJc-01010-00289979-00290218 learning lessons you know we when we
WFhLTbVNzJc-01011-00290219-00290572 tackled that project the rewriting of
WFhLTbVNzJc-01012-00290573-00290952 the website we tackled it as one big
WFhLTbVNzJc-01013-00290953-00291223 this whole piece of glass was our
WFhLTbVNzJc-01014-00291224-00291592 roadmap for release and I wished we
WFhLTbVNzJc-01015-00291593-00291762 would have released along the way
WFhLTbVNzJc-01016-00291763-00291967 because I think we could have started
WFhLTbVNzJc-01017-00291968-00292170 getting value out of the new website
WFhLTbVNzJc-01018-00292171-00292417 much sooner than two and a half years
WFhLTbVNzJc-01019-00292418-00292783 later you know so I think it's important
WFhLTbVNzJc-01020-00292784-00292972 when you have big projects like that to
WFhLTbVNzJc-01021-00292973-00293311 figure out how to bite size you know
WFhLTbVNzJc-01022-00293312-00293482 incrementally release to start getting
WFhLTbVNzJc-01023-00293483-00293980 some value our scrum practices were not
WFhLTbVNzJc-01024-00293981-00294244 as solid as they are today so we've
WFhLTbVNzJc-01025-00294245-00294501 recognized that through the through that
WFhLTbVNzJc-01026-00294502-00294757 process and so we've you know we've
WFhLTbVNzJc-01027-00294758-00295012 certified scrum masters Lisa you know
WFhLTbVNzJc-01028-00295013-00295534 trained scrum and so that's I wish we
WFhLTbVNzJc-01029-00295535-00295750 would have been better at scrum during
WFhLTbVNzJc-01030-00295751-00296200 that process in hindsight I wish we
WFhLTbVNzJc-01031-00296201-00296557 would have had more budget and I think
WFhLTbVNzJc-01032-00296558-00296836 you know the executive team you know
WFhLTbVNzJc-01033-00296837-00297067 they were they were so taken back that
WFhLTbVNzJc-01034-00297068-00297253 it took so long but they also didn't
WFhLTbVNzJc-01035-00297254-00297444 really want to give us more resources so
WFhLTbVNzJc-01036-00297445-00297742 I think if they had it to do over again
WFhLTbVNzJc-01037-00297743-00298057 they would have said throw what you what
WFhLTbVNzJc-01038-00298058-00298267 you need at it and get it done in a year
WFhLTbVNzJc-01039-00298268-00298450 and we would have figured out how to get
WFhLTbVNzJc-01040-00298451-00298873 it done in a year those are the things
WFhLTbVNzJc-01041-00298874-00300739 that come to mind yeah
WFhLTbVNzJc-01042-00300740-00301042 oh yeah so the question is do we have
WFhLTbVNzJc-01043-00301043-00301224 any problems with our vendors when we
WFhLTbVNzJc-01044-00301225-00301601 moved from on-prem to in the cloud
WFhLTbVNzJc-01045-00301602-00301898 [Music]
WFhLTbVNzJc-01046-00301899-00302151 nothing that really comes to mind
WFhLTbVNzJc-01047-00302152-00302376 nothing that sticks out in my memory is
WFhLTbVNzJc-01048-00302377-00303534 as a big yes
WFhLTbVNzJc-01049-00303535-00304467 yeah
WFhLTbVNzJc-01050-00304468-00304797 yes yet we use that pipeline for our
WFhLTbVNzJc-01051-00304798-00305100 private network and the public cloud and
WFhLTbVNzJc-01052-00305101-00305303 it was challenging because it was new to
WFhLTbVNzJc-01053-00305304-00305493 us right so I mean we did a lot of self
WFhLTbVNzJc-01054-00305494-00305862 learning and we stubbed our toes a lot
WFhLTbVNzJc-01055-00305863-00306110 along the way but we're pretty darn good
WFhLTbVNzJc-01056-00306111-00306179 at it now
WFhLTbVNzJc-01057-00306180-00306663 yeah did you have another question Kelly
WFhLTbVNzJc-01058-00306664-00307038 okay anybody else want to share their
WFhLTbVNzJc-01059-00307039-00307401 experience at all or advice as you've
WFhLTbVNzJc-01060-00307402-00308121 moved to the public cloud yes can you
WFhLTbVNzJc-01061-00308122-00308306 stand up might be able to hear you just
WFhLTbVNzJc-01062-00308307-00309538 a little bit better
WFhLTbVNzJc-01063-00309539-00311479 [Music]
WFhLTbVNzJc-01064-00311480-00311872 [Music]
WFhLTbVNzJc-01065-00311873-00313371 yeah
WFhLTbVNzJc-01066-00313372-00314600 mm-hmm yeah
WFhLTbVNzJc-01067-00314601-00315459 mm-hmm yes
WFhLTbVNzJc-01068-00315460-00317473 [Music]
WFhLTbVNzJc-01069-00317474-00319484 yeah
WFhLTbVNzJc-01070-00319485-00320282 good congratulations
WFhLTbVNzJc-01071-00320283-00321102 do we do what we don't so the question
WFhLTbVNzJc-01072-00321103-00321393 is kind of the a B or Bluegreen releases
WFhLTbVNzJc-01073-00321394-00321573 do we do those we don't do those today
WFhLTbVNzJc-01074-00321574-00321848 but we will with our commerce cloud
WFhLTbVNzJc-01075-00321849-00322020 implementation will have the ability to
WFhLTbVNzJc-01076-00322021-00322971 do that
WFhLTbVNzJc-01077-00322972-00323278 [Applause]