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jWU5ZYAEKCU-00002-00000618-00000841 with another video today we're going to jWU5ZYAEKCU-00003-00000842-00001052 talk a little bit about intercultural jWU5ZYAEKCU-00004-00001053-00001535 dating and yeah the problems that comes jWU5ZYAEKCU-00005-00001536-00001993 with it it all started a few months ago jWU5ZYAEKCU-00006-00001994-00002312 where I met a guy who was really really jWU5ZYAEKCU-00007-00002313-00002683 nice really handsome and funny and made jWU5ZYAEKCU-00008-00002684-00002990 me so happy we started to had the three jWU5ZYAEKCU-00009-00002991-00003322 times and then he said I'm a very jWU5ZYAEKCU-00010-00003323-00003602 serious guy and I need to talk to my dad jWU5ZYAEKCU-00011-00003603-00004094 before we are going official and I was jWU5ZYAEKCU-00012-00004095-00004472 like whoa dude that's a lot to say on jWU5ZYAEKCU-00013-00004473-00004895 the third date but I had heard about it jWU5ZYAEKCU-00014-00004896-00005183 before so I was like okay well if jWU5ZYAEKCU-00015-00005184-00005435 there's nothing else to do and I also jWU5ZYAEKCU-00016-00005436-00005629 wanted to know what he meant by being jWU5ZYAEKCU-00017-00005630-00005945 only friends until he had talked to his jWU5ZYAEKCU-00018-00005946-00006136 dad because he said he couldn't talk to jWU5ZYAEKCU-00019-00006137-00006302 him before he went home for Chinese New jWU5ZYAEKCU-00020-00006303-00006556 Year which was like two months jWU5ZYAEKCU-00021-00006558-00007060 afterwards and he was like well you can jWU5ZYAEKCU-00022-00007061-00007321 be friends like friends can do whatever jWU5ZYAEKCU-00023-00007322-00007619 they want to do and I was like okay well jWU5ZYAEKCU-00024-00007620-00007901 then I don't really care really so we jWU5ZYAEKCU-00025-00007902-00008242 had fun for I don't know six six weeks jWU5ZYAEKCU-00026-00008243-00008582 or so but it was in my head all the time jWU5ZYAEKCU-00027-00008583-00008885 and it kind of ruined some of it and jWU5ZYAEKCU-00028-00008886-00009056 when I was at home in Denmark I was jWU5ZYAEKCU-00029-00009057-00009328 thinking a lot about it and he kind of jWU5ZYAEKCU-00030-00009329-00009584 told me also like just that his family jWU5ZYAEKCU-00031-00009585-00009995 was really strict traditional family his jWU5ZYAEKCU-00032-00009996-00010226 parents his dad had decided some really jWU5ZYAEKCU-00033-00010227-00010460 big things for him before life things jWU5ZYAEKCU-00034-00010461-00010966 were psycho like life choices and his jWU5ZYAEKCU-00035-00010967-00011324 cousin also was dating somebody before jWU5ZYAEKCU-00036-00011325-00011541 for years and then jWU5ZYAEKCU-00037-00011542-00012342 her mom he's my the guys that's like his jWU5ZYAEKCU-00038-00012343-00012651 aunt yeah she didn't like that guy so jWU5ZYAEKCU-00039-00012652-00012852 they were forced to break up and then jWU5ZYAEKCU-00040-00012853-00013155 she had to marry somebody else and I was jWU5ZYAEKCU-00041-00013156-00013380 just like oh that doesn't really make me jWU5ZYAEKCU-00042-00013381-00013716 more calm about this whole situation but jWU5ZYAEKCU-00043-00013716-00013878 I also thought that this was just a jWU5ZYAEKCU-00044-00013879-00014052 really good guy and he was being honest jWU5ZYAEKCU-00045-00014053-00014310 with me and you know it was kind of my jWU5ZYAEKCU-00046-00014311-00014669 own choice to stay so yeah I went back jWU5ZYAEKCU-00047-00014670-00014966 during the day went back for Christmas jWU5ZYAEKCU-00048-00014968-00015144 and I didn't really hear much from him jWU5ZYAEKCU-00049-00015144-00015305 because he was really really busy with jWU5ZYAEKCU-00050-00015306-00015582 his school but during the time we were jWU5ZYAEKCU-00051-00015583-00015885 dating he like bought me presents twice jWU5ZYAEKCU-00052-00015886-00016215 and I was just like ah just a really jWU5ZYAEKCU-00053-00016216-00016484 really good guy so happy to be with him jWU5ZYAEKCU-00054-00016485-00016908 but yeah in the end it didn't work out jWU5ZYAEKCU-00055-00016909-00017244 because I just kept thinking and talking jWU5ZYAEKCU-00056-00017245-00017475 to my friends as well about this jWU5ZYAEKCU-00057-00017476-00017675 especially like people who dated jWU5ZYAEKCU-00058-00017676-00018180 intercultural as well and you know one jWU5ZYAEKCU-00059-00018181-00018372 of my Chinese girlfriends who date's jWU5ZYAEKCU-00060-00018373-00018687 Chinese Bush is a Danish guy she said to jWU5ZYAEKCU-00061-00018688-00018990 me you know if you can't choose himself jWU5ZYAEKCU-00062-00018991-00019416 now then what about later and it made jWU5ZYAEKCU-00063-00019417-00019628 totally sense for me so that's why I jWU5ZYAEKCU-00064-00019629-00019788 thought I wanted to share it with you jWU5ZYAEKCU-00065-00019789-00020100 guys because I don't know I want to know jWU5ZYAEKCU-00066-00020101-00020292 if you guys also bump into these jWU5ZYAEKCU-00067-00020293-00020490 problems and I know that a lot of you jWU5ZYAEKCU-00068-00020491-00020703 guys are Chinese either like Chinese jWU5ZYAEKCU-00069-00020704-00021156 heritage growing up abroad or you grew jWU5ZYAEKCU-00070-00021157-00021627 up in China have you bumped into this jWU5ZYAEKCU-00071-00021628-00021846 problem before and jWU5ZYAEKCU-00072-00021847-00022182 like do you have strict family members jWU5ZYAEKCU-00073-00022183-00022413 like parents who tell you what to do and jWU5ZYAEKCU-00074-00022414-00022830 not to do and how can you accept it I jWU5ZYAEKCU-00075-00022831-00023118 know that you grew up with it so you jWU5ZYAEKCU-00076-00023119-00023496 might be more used to it for me when I I jWU5ZYAEKCU-00077-00023497-00023781 broke it off because I didn't want to jWU5ZYAEKCU-00078-00023782-00023967 waste my time I knew that it was only jWU5ZYAEKCU-00079-00023968-00024231 going to end anyways like a few weeks jWU5ZYAEKCU-00080-00024232-00024432 later because he said that if his dad jWU5ZYAEKCU-00081-00024433-00024765 said no then we wouldn't be able to move jWU5ZYAEKCU-00082-00024766-00025248 on you know together and I just thought jWU5ZYAEKCU-00083-00025249-00025619 that you're really happy right now and jWU5ZYAEKCU-00084-00025620-00025767 you with somebody who's really good to jWU5ZYAEKCU-00085-00025768-00026267 you and then you you let your dad decide jWU5ZYAEKCU-00086-00026268-00026622 if you guys should be together or not jWU5ZYAEKCU-00087-00026623-00026883 but daddy doesn't even know the person jWU5ZYAEKCU-00088-00026883-00027162 you're with aren't you gonna regret that jWU5ZYAEKCU-00089-00027163-00027387 later if you get married to somebody who jWU5ZYAEKCU-00090-00027388-00027819 he approved of but you actually might jWU5ZYAEKCU-00091-00027820-00028062 not like that much maybe you like in the jWU5ZYAEKCU-00092-00028063-00028212 beginning but then you realize how it jWU5ZYAEKCU-00093-00028213-00028374 was just because it was more convenient jWU5ZYAEKCU-00094-00028375-00028881 I don't know well like he did use his jWU5ZYAEKCU-00095-00028882-00029160 parents as an excuse but I also talked jWU5ZYAEKCU-00096-00029161-00029400 to again friends about it and they said jWU5ZYAEKCU-00097-00029401-00029607 you know maybe it's also because she jWU5ZYAEKCU-00098-00029608-00029826 just didn't fit into his plan like his jWU5ZYAEKCU-00099-00029827-00030024 parents told him what to do with his jWU5ZYAEKCU-00100-00030025-00030399 life and you didn't fit in like he said jWU5ZYAEKCU-00101-00030400-00030558 to me oh my parents won't accept you jWU5ZYAEKCU-00102-00030558-00030762 because you don't have a Chinese jWU5ZYAEKCU-00103-00030763-00031137 passport and I'm like well how can you jWU5ZYAEKCU-00104-00031138-00031443 be surprised well when you met me why jWU5ZYAEKCU-00105-00031444-00031745 would you keep you know staying seeing jWU5ZYAEKCU-00106-00031747-00031995 me than if you already knew that they jWU5ZYAEKCU-00107-00031995-00032514 wouldn't accept it um yeah and he also jWU5ZYAEKCU-00108-00032514-00032666 said that jWU5ZYAEKCU-00109-00032667-00033089 you know my life is unstable and I jWU5ZYAEKCU-00110-00033090-00033224 thought my life was really stable jWU5ZYAEKCU-00111-00033225-00033413 because I'm staying here full-time and jWU5ZYAEKCU-00112-00033414-00033773 have an income and you know I stay in jWU5ZYAEKCU-00113-00033774-00034837 the same place sorry and I jWU5ZYAEKCU-00114-00034838-00035230 I am always really proud that I'm jWU5ZYAEKCU-00115-00035231-00035530 independent and then I travel I traveled jWU5ZYAEKCU-00116-00035531-00035980 many places alone and I've seen a lot of jWU5ZYAEKCU-00117-00035981-00036118 things and I feel like that's how you jWU5ZYAEKCU-00118-00036119-00036397 grow and I know it's a Western way of jWU5ZYAEKCU-00119-00036398-00036580 thinking and it's different from the jWU5ZYAEKCU-00120-00036581-00036963 Chinese but you know it was just that it jWU5ZYAEKCU-00121-00036964-00037216 sounded that that it sounded like it was jWU5ZYAEKCU-00122-00037217-00037564 a bad thing in this case and I've never jWU5ZYAEKCU-00123-00037565-00037720 thought about it as being a bad thing jWU5ZYAEKCU-00124-00037721-00038017 but he was like oh you know later on if jWU5ZYAEKCU-00125-00038018-00038386 we have a family like my parents would jWU5ZYAEKCU-00126-00038387-00038701 never accepted you to travel alone and I jWU5ZYAEKCU-00127-00038702-00038905 kind of had a feeling that that was you jWU5ZYAEKCU-00128-00038906-00039280 know he used his parents as an excuse jWU5ZYAEKCU-00129-00039281-00039619 but he definitely thought the same so jWU5ZYAEKCU-00130-00039620-00040127 yeah it was not meant to be but jWU5ZYAEKCU-00131-00040128-00040963 so kind of annoying yeah so I try to I jWU5ZYAEKCU-00132-00040964-00041198 broke it up like two weeks ago jWU5ZYAEKCU-00133-00041199-00041486 I don't know I just I really want to jWU5ZYAEKCU-00134-00041487-00041789 share this with you guys because that's jWU5ZYAEKCU-00135-00041790-00042212 another part of life here it's just so jWU5ZYAEKCU-00136-00042213-00042656 weird that you meet somebody and you jWU5ZYAEKCU-00137-00042657-00043025 click and you have like personalities jWU5ZYAEKCU-00138-00043026-00043420 just match but then because of culture jWU5ZYAEKCU-00139-00043421-00043748 like family traditions it doesn't work jWU5ZYAEKCU-00140-00043749-00043991 out I'm just like I don't know it's just jWU5ZYAEKCU-00141-00043992-00044276 I see China as a very modern and open jWU5ZYAEKCU-00142-00044277-00044501 country and then when these things jWU5ZYAEKCU-00143-00044502-00044903 happen I'm just like how can this happen jWU5ZYAEKCU-00144-00044904-00045317 like this people are just like me jWU5ZYAEKCU-00145-00045318-00045563 but they're not some people are not like jWU5ZYAEKCU-00146-00045564-00045785 there are so many different kinds of jWU5ZYAEKCU-00147-00045786-00046145 Chinese people and like he does come jWU5ZYAEKCU-00148-00046146-00046433 from a more traditional area of China jWU5ZYAEKCU-00149-00046434-00046694 which is not as open-minded as other jWU5ZYAEKCU-00150-00046695-00046936 places so I definitely know that I jWU5ZYAEKCU-00151-00046937-00047354 shouldn't go for that province jWU5ZYAEKCU-00152-00047355-00047615 now I know I had just like that but it's jWU5ZYAEKCU-00153-00047616-00048019 just I don't know it's kind of knowing jWU5ZYAEKCU-00154-00048020-00048752 anyways yeah just me rambling here this jWU5ZYAEKCU-00155-00048753-00049070 is one of the problems of intercultural jWU5ZYAEKCU-00156-00049071-00049409 dating and there are a lot of things you jWU5ZYAEKCU-00157-00049410-00049684 have to consider before dating jWU5ZYAEKCU-00158-00049685-00049976 interculturally I don't believe that jWU5ZYAEKCU-00159-00049977-00050477 it's a good idea to go in blind I know jWU5ZYAEKCU-00160-00050478-00050717 love makes you blind huh jWU5ZYAEKCU-00161-00050718-00050960 but being in love makes you blind and jWU5ZYAEKCU-00162-00050961-00051176 marriage makes you seeing again jWU5ZYAEKCU-00163-00051177-00051449 I've known this my old teacher high jWU5ZYAEKCU-00164-00051450-00051676 school teacher told me I told us that jWU5ZYAEKCU-00165-00051677-00051926 let me know about your own experience jWU5ZYAEKCU-00166-00051927-00052173 please let me know if you have tried jWU5ZYAEKCU-00167-00052174-00052461 anything like this or you know how you jWU5ZYAEKCU-00168-00052462-00052665 look at this I would really love to know jWU5ZYAEKCU-00169-00052666-00052988 let's have a discussion below and I'm jWU5ZYAEKCU-00170-00052989-00053529 fine I am fine I am fine I'm just a very jWU5ZYAEKCU-00171-00053529-00053784 emotional person that's I cry very jWU5ZYAEKCU-00172-00053785-00054154 easily so I'm sorry for that I am fine jWU5ZYAEKCU-00173-00054155-00054396 smile to the world a new world will jWU5ZYAEKCU-00174-00054397-00054899 smile again yay anyways I'll go back to jWU5ZYAEKCU-00175-00054900-00055074 my room and have a rest now so thank you jWU5ZYAEKCU-00176-00055075-00055406 guys for watching I'm excited to have jWU5ZYAEKCU-00177-00055407-00055601 this discussion this debate with you and jWU5ZYAEKCU-00178-00055602-00055884 a conversation and I hope you're having jWU5ZYAEKCU-00179-00055885-00056018 gradient even wherever you are in the jWU5ZYAEKCU-00180-00056019-00056129 world and I'll see you again very very jWU5ZYAEKCU-00181-00056130-00056361 soon leaning is out SIA and sightseein jWU5ZYAEKCU-00182-00056362-00056527 yeah bye bye jWU5ZYAEKCU-00183-00056528-00057104 [Music] jWVcwXrZDEg-00000-00000023-00000695 [Music] jWVcwXrZDEg-00001-00000696-00001014 do jWVcwXrZDEg-00003-00006232-00006333 so jWVcwXrZDEg-00004-00006334-00007290 [Music] jWVcwXrZDEg-00005-00007291-00008109 [Music] jWVcwXrZDEg-00006-00008111-00009906 [Music] jWVcwXrZDEg-00007-00009907-00010489 [Music] jWVcwXrZDEg-00008-00010490-00010767 [Music] jWVcwXrZDEg-00009-00010768-00010975 you jYrOARjlNDk-00000-00000006-00000286 you and me we can do this we got a lot jYrOARjlNDk-00001-00000287-00000491 closer than we've ever gotten before jYrOARjlNDk-00002-00000492-00000977 ever ever our fans are gonna be so proud jYrOARjlNDk-00003-00000977-00001172 our fans are gonna be really proud are jYrOARjlNDk-00004-00001173-00001439 we doing this for this is it scary time jYrOARjlNDk-00005-00001440-00001723 of the month yeah hey happy holiday jYrOARjlNDk-00006-00001725-00002441 buddy I love you well I don't know where jYrOARjlNDk-00007-00002442-00003115 he is before we go what is he like he's jYrOARjlNDk-00008-00003116-00003245 alright jYrOARjlNDk-00009-00003246-00003434 I don't know he could do that so maybe I jYrOARjlNDk-00010-00003435-00003865 should do that yeah can he get this from jYrOARjlNDk-00011-00003867-00004190 the right yeah he can he can get this jYrOARjlNDk-00012-00004191-00004442 from wherever yeah soon so alright oh jYrOARjlNDk-00013-00004443-00004688 [__] I cause I'm connected see I thought jYrOARjlNDk-00014-00004689-00005684 it was like that's okay oh he's moving jYrOARjlNDk-00015-00005685-00006098 towards us jYrOARjlNDk-00016-00006099-00006356 because I thought it was like snap one jYrOARjlNDk-00017-00006357-00006536 where they can only come from certain jYrOARjlNDk-00018-00006537-00006752 sides I don't like the clown jYrOARjlNDk-00019-00006753-00007427 yeah the cloud kind of sucks we were jYrOARjlNDk-00020-00007428-00007643 real close we had one more thing to do jYrOARjlNDk-00021-00007644-00007817 yeah we were so close I'm gonna [__] jYrOARjlNDk-00022-00007818-00008627 us okay where we at where is he okay jYrOARjlNDk-00023-00008628-00008842 cool jYrOARjlNDk-00024-00008843-00009167 keep him right there right where we jYrOARjlNDk-00025-00009168-00010531 don't know where to turn jYrOARjlNDk-00026-00010532-00012774 look what what do we do jYrOARjlNDk-00027-00012775-00013765 go back to work oh yeah okay he's moving jYrOARjlNDk-00028-00013766-00014587 away yeah oh it's so now look left and jYrOARjlNDk-00029-00014588-00014815 before you look back tell me so I can jYrOARjlNDk-00030-00014816-00016490 turn off the fan and [__] again yeah jYrOARjlNDk-00031-00016491-00016700 so it's just about like being patient jYrOARjlNDk-00032-00016701-00016967 [__] jYrOARjlNDk-00033-00016968-00017366 that's a [__] alien [__] [__] jYrOARjlNDk-00034-00017367-00019007 right 97 degrees that would kill me I'd jYrOARjlNDk-00035-00019008-00019813 died okay and tell me below buddy okay jYrOARjlNDk-00036-00019814-00020060 it doesn't matter it's still like mouth jYrOARjlNDk-00037-00020061-00021526 okay I'm gonna take wait wait wait jYrOARjlNDk-00038-00021527-00021838 look what is he left I didn't see it jYrOARjlNDk-00039-00021839-00022264 oh [__] kind of hiding I gotta turn the jYrOARjlNDk-00040-00022265-00022708 fan back on turn in turn into fit no jYrOARjlNDk-00041-00022709-00023116 good yeah I assumed that what happens jYrOARjlNDk-00042-00023117-00023269 it's just wait a while and was he just jYrOARjlNDk-00043-00023270-00023473 turned he went the other way and got us jYrOARjlNDk-00044-00023474-00023545 from behind jYrOARjlNDk-00045-00023546-00024043 last time mm yeah because we weren't jYrOARjlNDk-00046-00024044-00024169 really keeping an eye on him where are jYrOARjlNDk-00047-00024170-00024460 we okay that sucks jYrOARjlNDk-00048-00024461-00025276 yeah it's yeah oh is that hate it let me jYrOARjlNDk-00049-00025277-00025405 know when you're about to turn I'm gonna jYrOARjlNDk-00050-00025406-00026864 turn okay jYrOARjlNDk-00051-00026864-00028217 it's so loud oh my god this sucks jYrOARjlNDk-00052-00028218-00028523 I like the way the the ventilation works jYrOARjlNDk-00053-00028524-00028754 it kind of like it'll stick at a jYrOARjlNDk-00054-00028755-00029095 temperature in the drop of you oh that's jYrOARjlNDk-00055-00029097-00029591 fun are you yeah okay let me give it a jYrOARjlNDk-00056-00029592-00029738 sec I'm sure I do that cuz that's when jYrOARjlNDk-00057-00029739-00030200 it's not honest okay okay cool jYrOARjlNDk-00058-00030201-00030416 yeah he's what he's running away he's jYrOARjlNDk-00059-00030417-00031154 afraid of us he thinks anything's that jYrOARjlNDk-00060-00031155-00031613 well I'll take that as like it's like jYrOARjlNDk-00061-00031614-00031931 him giving up sorry the things you know jYrOARjlNDk-00062-00031932-00032072 that he's just going around the other jYrOARjlNDk-00063-00032073-00032291 way yeah so we'll keep an eye on him jYrOARjlNDk-00064-00032292-00032522 what oh sorry well there's a promotion jYrOARjlNDk-00065-00032523-00033715 detective okay fine jYrOARjlNDk-00066-00033716-00033914 yeah I'm only gonna have the bank only jYrOARjlNDk-00067-00033915-00034330 like looking at him yeah but we got it jYrOARjlNDk-00068-00034331-00034771 we got to be like better about that jYrOARjlNDk-00069-00034772-00034927 yeah because eventually there's gonna be jYrOARjlNDk-00070-00034928-00035114 more folks because it's gonna be jYrOARjlNDk-00071-00035115-00035411 tomorrow but here's the thing everyone jYrOARjlNDk-00072-00035412-00035654 but him talks yeah jYrOARjlNDk-00073-00035655-00035951 this lefty say anything yeah oh yeah I jYrOARjlNDk-00074-00035952-00037960 think lefty whispers yeah jYrOARjlNDk-00075-00037961-00038617 because he's moving no it's good find jYrOARjlNDk-00076-00038618-00041198 out it's because it's motioned no no I jYrOARjlNDk-00077-00041199-00041564 say and tell me tell me tell me before jYrOARjlNDk-00078-00041565-00042151 yeah yeah it's hecka so very again jYrOARjlNDk-00079-00042152-00042352 should we just like should I just click jYrOARjlNDk-00080-00042353-00042629 the next one and then look or should i jYrOARjlNDk-00081-00042630-00042745 do motion detector jYrOARjlNDk-00082-00042746-00042937 yeah to click the next one that month no jYrOARjlNDk-00083-00042938-00043232 cuz then we got a bug out - no it's okay jYrOARjlNDk-00084-00043233-00044158 it'll work it'll work jYrOARjlNDk-00085-00044159-00044398 unless you went all the way around that jYrOARjlNDk-00086-00044399-00044914 time what you hear it right a little jYrOARjlNDk-00087-00044915-00045009 late jYrOARjlNDk-00088-00045010-00045445 yeah like the sound of soft feet in the jYrOARjlNDk-00089-00045446-00045609 bed jYrOARjlNDk-00090-00045610-00046287 no okay give this time to fully stop jYrOARjlNDk-00091-00046288-00047221 okay oh we did it oh my god oh good at jYrOARjlNDk-00092-00047222-00047640 video games so good at video games and jYrOARjlNDk-00093-00047641-00048630 say no more that okay I'll do the next jYrOARjlNDk-00094-00048631-00049693 like shocking it's pretty bad we can jYrOARjlNDk-00096-00052729-00054054 like he's looking I'm looking at it jYrOARjlNDk-00097-00054054-00055834 we got three oh I think it actually is jYrOARjlNDk-00098-00055835-00056449 picking up and it's this Oh No jYrOARjlNDk-00099-00056450-00057003 so we know that he can be like more yeah jYrOARjlNDk-00100-00057004-00057662 [Music] jYrOARjlNDk-00101-00057663-00058688 [Music] jYrOARjlNDk-00102-00058689-00058924 that's the last time we can use it with jYrOARjlNDk-00103-00058925-00060909 that it's three so yeah we're fine yeah jYrOARjlNDk-00104-00060910-00061155 yeah no risks because after the next one jYrOARjlNDk-00105-00061157-00062537 we're fine well don't like is exposed jYrOARjlNDk-00106-00062538-00062824 [Music] jYrOARjlNDk-00107-00062825-00063080 the things wrapped around all the courts jYrOARjlNDk-00109-00067291-00067701 so good jYrOARjlNDk-00110-00067702-00068019 [Music] jbAT4jZlIiM-00000-00000005-00000247 the study of extraterrestrial jbAT4jZlIiM-00001-00000248-00000478 atmospheres is an active field of jbAT4jZlIiM-00002-00000479-00000751 research both as an aspect of astronomy jbAT4jZlIiM-00003-00000752-00000925 and to gain insight into Earth's jbAT4jZlIiM-00004-00000926-00001289 atmosphere in addition to earth many of jbAT4jZlIiM-00005-00001290-00001504 the other astronomical objects in the jbAT4jZlIiM-00006-00001505-00001817 solar system have atmospheres these jbAT4jZlIiM-00007-00001818-00002068 include all the gas giants as well as jbAT4jZlIiM-00008-00002069-00002467 Mars Venus and Pluto several moons and jbAT4jZlIiM-00009-00002468-00002738 other bodies also have atmospheres as do jbAT4jZlIiM-00010-00002739-00003008 comets and the Sun there is evidence jbAT4jZlIiM-00011-00003009-00003229 that extrasolar planets can have an jbAT4jZlIiM-00012-00003230-00003472 atmosphere comparisons of these jbAT4jZlIiM-00013-00003473-00003670 atmospheres to one another and to jbAT4jZlIiM-00014-00003671-00003893 Earth's atmosphere broaden our basic jbAT4jZlIiM-00015-00003894-00004097 understanding of atmospheric processes jbAT4jZlIiM-00016-00004098-00004379 such as the greenhouse effect aerosol jbAT4jZlIiM-00017-00004380-00004606 and cloud physics and atmospheric jbAT4jZlIiM-00018-00004607-00006122 chemistry and dynamics topic planets jbAT4jZlIiM-00019-00006123-00007502 topic inner planets topic mercury due to jbAT4jZlIiM-00020-00007503-00007715 its small size and thus its small jbAT4jZlIiM-00021-00007716-00007991 gravity mercury has no substantial jbAT4jZlIiM-00022-00007992-00008267 atmosphere it's extremely thin jbAT4jZlIiM-00023-00008268-00008507 atmosphere mostly consists of a small jbAT4jZlIiM-00024-00008508-00008732 amount of helium and traces of sodium jbAT4jZlIiM-00025-00008733-00008966 potassium and oxygen jbAT4jZlIiM-00026-00008967-00009299 these gases derive from the solar wind jbAT4jZlIiM-00027-00009300-00009584 radioactive decay meteor impacts and jbAT4jZlIiM-00028-00009585-00009853 breakdown of Mercury's crust jbAT4jZlIiM-00029-00009854-00010157 Mercury's atmosphere is not stable and jbAT4jZlIiM-00030-00010158-00010391 is constantly being refreshed because of jbAT4jZlIiM-00031-00010392-00010610 its atoms escaping into space as a jbAT4jZlIiM-00032-00010611-00011662 result of the planets heat topic Venus jbAT4jZlIiM-00033-00011663-00012008 Venus atmosphere is mostly composed of jbAT4jZlIiM-00034-00012009-00012155 carbon dioxide jbAT4jZlIiM-00035-00012156-00012434 it contains minor amounts of nitrogen jbAT4jZlIiM-00036-00012435-00012638 and other trace elements including jbAT4jZlIiM-00037-00012639-00012891 compounds based on hydrogen nitrogen jbAT4jZlIiM-00038-00012892-00013328 sulfur carbon and oxygen the atmosphere jbAT4jZlIiM-00039-00013329-00013553 of Venus is much hotter and denser than jbAT4jZlIiM-00040-00013554-00013755 that of Earth though shallower as jbAT4jZlIiM-00041-00013756-00014080 greenhouse gases warmer lower atmosphere jbAT4jZlIiM-00042-00014081-00014309 they cooled the upper atmosphere leading jbAT4jZlIiM-00043-00014310-00014630 to compact thermos fears by some jbAT4jZlIiM-00044-00014631-00014905 definitions Venus has no stratosphere jbAT4jZlIiM-00045-00014906-00015140 the troposphere begins at the surface jbAT4jZlIiM-00046-00015141-00015383 and extends up to an altitude of 65 jbAT4jZlIiM-00047-00015384-00015659 kilometers and altitude at which the jbAT4jZlIiM-00048-00015660-00015884 mesosphere has already been reached on jbAT4jZlIiM-00049-00015885-00016159 earth at the top of the troposphere jbAT4jZlIiM-00050-00016160-00016379 temperature and pressure reach earth jbAT4jZlIiM-00051-00016380-00016708 like levels winds at the surface are a jbAT4jZlIiM-00052-00016709-00017126 few m/s reaching 70 meters per second or jbAT4jZlIiM-00053-00017127-00017402 more in the upper troposphere the jbAT4jZlIiM-00054-00017403-00017642 stratosphere and mesosphere extend from jbAT4jZlIiM-00055-00017643-00018033 65 kilometers to 95 kilometres in height jbAT4jZlIiM-00056-00018034-00018355 the thermosphere and exosphere begin at jbAT4jZlIiM-00057-00018356-00018733 around 95 kilometres reaching the limit jbAT4jZlIiM-00058-00018734-00019156 of the atmosphere at about 220 to 250 jbAT4jZlIiM-00059-00019157-00019502 kilometres the air pressure at vein jbAT4jZlIiM-00060-00019503-00019784 surface is about 92 times that of the jbAT4jZlIiM-00061-00019785-00020144 earth the enormous amount of co2 in the jbAT4jZlIiM-00062-00020145-00020390 atmosphere creates a strong greenhouse jbAT4jZlIiM-00063-00020391-00020633 effect raising the surface temperature jbAT4jZlIiM-00064-00020634-00020804 to around four hundred and seventy jbAT4jZlIiM-00065-00020805-00021062 degrees Celsius hotter than that of any jbAT4jZlIiM-00066-00021063-00021818 other planet in the solar system topic jbAT4jZlIiM-00067-00021819-00022161 Mars jbAT4jZlIiM-00068-00022162-00022474 the Martian atmosphere is very thin and jbAT4jZlIiM-00069-00022475-00022762 composed mainly of carbon dioxide with jbAT4jZlIiM-00070-00022763-00023071 some nitrogen and argan the average jbAT4jZlIiM-00071-00023072-00023497 surface pressure on Mars is 0.62 0.9 jbAT4jZlIiM-00072-00023498-00023821 kilo Pascal's compared to about 101 jbAT4jZlIiM-00073-00023822-00024202 kiloPascals for Earth this results in a jbAT4jZlIiM-00074-00024203-00024427 much lower atmospheric thermal inertia jbAT4jZlIiM-00075-00024428-00024724 and as a consequence Mars is subject to jbAT4jZlIiM-00076-00024725-00024937 strong thermal tides that can change jbAT4jZlIiM-00077-00024938-00025225 total atmospheric pressure by up to 10 jbAT4jZlIiM-00078-00025226-00025543 percent the thin atmosphere also jbAT4jZlIiM-00079-00025544-00025803 increases the variability of the planets jbAT4jZlIiM-00080-00025804-00026094 temperature Martian surface temperatures jbAT4jZlIiM-00081-00026095-00026400 vary from lows of approximately minus jbAT4jZlIiM-00082-00026401-00026857 140 degrees Celsius minus 220 degrees jbAT4jZlIiM-00083-00026858-00027102 Fahrenheit during the polar winters to jbAT4jZlIiM-00084-00027104-00027418 highs of up to 20 degrees Celsius 70 jbAT4jZlIiM-00085-00027419-00027795 degrees Fahrenheit in summers between jbAT4jZlIiM-00086-00027797-00027967 the Viking and Mars Global Surveyor jbAT4jZlIiM-00087-00027968-00028435 missions Mars saw much colder 10 to 20 K jbAT4jZlIiM-00088-00028436-00028699 global atmospheric temperatures were jbAT4jZlIiM-00089-00028700-00029220 observed during the 1997 vs. 1977 jbAT4jZlIiM-00090-00029222-00029680 perihelion periods and that the global jbAT4jZlIiM-00091-00029681-00029970 aphelion atmosphere of Mars is colder jbAT4jZlIiM-00092-00029972-00030298 less dusty and cloudier than indicated jbAT4jZlIiM-00093-00030299-00030627 by the established Viking climatology jbAT4jZlIiM-00094-00030627-00030982 with generally colder atmospheric jbAT4jZlIiM-00095-00030983-00031231 temperatures and lower dust loading in jbAT4jZlIiM-00096-00031232-00031512 recent decades on Mars than during the jbAT4jZlIiM-00097-00031513-00031815 Viking mission the Mars Reconnaissance jbAT4jZlIiM-00098-00031816-00032074 Orbiter though spanning a much shorter jbAT4jZlIiM-00099-00032075-00032337 data set shows no warming of planetary jbAT4jZlIiM-00100-00032338-00032560 average temperature and the possible jbAT4jZlIiM-00101-00032561-00032946 cooling mcs my 28 temperatures are an jbAT4jZlIiM-00102-00032947-00033400 average of 0.9 daytime and 1.7 K jbAT4jZlIiM-00103-00033401-00033690 nighttime cooler than thermal emission jbAT4jZlIiM-00104-00033691-00034187 spectrometer tes my 24 measurements jbAT4jZlIiM-00105-00034188-00034519 locally and regionally however changes jbAT4jZlIiM-00106-00034520-00034737 in pits in the layer of frozen carbon jbAT4jZlIiM-00107-00034738-00034969 dioxide at the Martian South Pole jbAT4jZlIiM-00108-00034970-00035421 observed between 1999 and 2001 suggests jbAT4jZlIiM-00109-00035422-00035502 the South Pole jbAT4jZlIiM-00110-00035503-00035817 icecap is shrinking more recent jbAT4jZlIiM-00111-00035818-00036054 observations indicate that Mars South jbAT4jZlIiM-00112-00036055-00036295 Pole is continuing to melt it's jbAT4jZlIiM-00113-00036296-00036546 evaporating right now at a prodigious jbAT4jZlIiM-00114-00036547-00036895 rate says Michael Malin principal jbAT4jZlIiM-00115-00036896-00037143 investigator for the Mars orbiter camera jbAT4jZlIiM-00116-00037144-00037395 the pits in the ice are growing by about jbAT4jZlIiM-00117-00037396-00037893 3 meters 9.8 feet per year Malin states jbAT4jZlIiM-00118-00037894-00038085 that conditions on Mars are not jbAT4jZlIiM-00119-00038086-00038320 currently conductive to the formation of jbAT4jZlIiM-00120-00038321-00038679 new ice a website has suggested that jbAT4jZlIiM-00121-00038680-00038961 this indicates a climate change in jbAT4jZlIiM-00122-00038962-00039189 progress on Mars jbAT4jZlIiM-00123-00039190-00039468 multiple studies suggests this may be a jbAT4jZlIiM-00124-00039469-00039702 local phenomenon rather than a global jbAT4jZlIiM-00125-00039703-00039951 one Colin Wilson has proposed that the jbAT4jZlIiM-00126-00039952-00040176 observed variations are caused by jbAT4jZlIiM-00127-00040177-00040461 irregularities in the orbit of Mars jbAT4jZlIiM-00128-00040462-00040764 William Feldman speculates the warming jbAT4jZlIiM-00129-00040765-00040986 could be because Mars might be coming jbAT4jZlIiM-00130-00040987-00041332 out of an ice age other scientists state jbAT4jZlIiM-00131-00041333-00041562 the warming may be a result of albedo jbAT4jZlIiM-00132-00041563-00041907 changes from dust storms the study jbAT4jZlIiM-00133-00041908-00042126 predicts the planet could continue to jbAT4jZlIiM-00134-00042127-00042396 warm as a result of positive feedback On jbAT4jZlIiM-00135-00042397-00042738 June 7 2018 NASA announced that the jbAT4jZlIiM-00136-00042739-00043011 Curiosity rover detected a cyclicals jbAT4jZlIiM-00137-00043012-00043233 seasonal variation in atmospheric jbAT4jZlIiM-00138-00043234-00043455 methane as well as the presence of jbAT4jZlIiM-00139-00043456-00043654 karagin and other complex organic jbAT4jZlIiM-00140-00043655-00044866 compounds topic gas giants the jbAT4jZlIiM-00141-00044867-00045085 outer planets of the solar system are jbAT4jZlIiM-00142-00045086-00045397 gas giants they share some atmospheric jbAT4jZlIiM-00143-00045398-00045688 commonalities all have atmospheres that jbAT4jZlIiM-00144-00045689-00045937 are mostly hydrogen and helium and that jbAT4jZlIiM-00145-00045938-00046141 blend into the liquid interior at jbAT4jZlIiM-00146-00046142-00046294 pressures greater than the critical jbAT4jZlIiM-00147-00046295-00046525 pressure so that there is no clear jbAT4jZlIiM-00148-00046526-00047205 boundary between atmosphere and body jbAT4jZlIiM-00149-00047206-00047896 topic Jupiter Jupiter's upper atmosphere jbAT4jZlIiM-00150-00047897-00048256 is composed of about 75 percent hydrogen jbAT4jZlIiM-00151-00048257-00048535 and 24 percent helium by mass with the jbAT4jZlIiM-00152-00048536-00048787 remaining 1% consisting of other jbAT4jZlIiM-00153-00048788-00049159 elements the interior contains denser jbAT4jZlIiM-00154-00049160-00049408 materials such that the distribution is jbAT4jZlIiM-00155-00049409-00049780 roughly 71 percent hydrogen 24 percent jbAT4jZlIiM-00156-00049781-00050056 helium and 5 percent other elements by jbAT4jZlIiM-00157-00050057-00050389 mass the atmosphere contains trace jbAT4jZlIiM-00158-00050390-00050686 amounts of methane water vapor ammonia jbAT4jZlIiM-00159-00050687-00051043 and silicon based compounds there are jbAT4jZlIiM-00160-00051044-00051373 also traces of carbon ethane hydrogen jbAT4jZlIiM-00161-00051374-00051755 sulfide neon oxygen phosphine and sulfur jbAT4jZlIiM-00162-00051757-00052016 the outermost layer of the atmosphere jbAT4jZlIiM-00163-00052017-00052296 contains crystals of frozen ammonia jbAT4jZlIiM-00164-00052297-00052549 possibly underlaid by a thin layer of jbAT4jZlIiM-00165-00052550-00052698 water jbAT4jZlIiM-00166-00052699-00052951 Jupiter is covered with a cloud layer jbAT4jZlIiM-00167-00052952-00053275 about 50 kilometers deep the clouds are jbAT4jZlIiM-00168-00053276-00053488 composed of ammonia crystals and jbAT4jZlIiM-00169-00053489-00053788 possibly ammonium hydrosulfide the jbAT4jZlIiM-00170-00053789-00054052 clouds are located in the tropopause and jbAT4jZlIiM-00171-00054053-00054214 are arranged into bands of different jbAT4jZlIiM-00172-00054215-00054522 latitudes known as tropical regions jbAT4jZlIiM-00173-00054523-00054853 these are subdivided into lighter huge jbAT4jZlIiM-00174-00054854-00055162 zones and darker belts the interactions jbAT4jZlIiM-00175-00055163-00055366 of these conflicting circulation jbAT4jZlIiM-00176-00055366-00055690 patterns cause storms and turbulence the jbAT4jZlIiM-00177-00055691-00055933 best-known feature of the cloud layer is jbAT4jZlIiM-00178-00055934-00056149 the Great Red Spot a persistent jbAT4jZlIiM-00179-00056150-00056479 anticyclonic storm located 22 degrees jbAT4jZlIiM-00180-00056479-00056719 south of the equator that is larger than jbAT4jZlIiM-00181-00056720-00057112 Earth in 2000 and atmospheric feature jbAT4jZlIiM-00182-00057113-00057325 formed in the southern hemisphere that jbAT4jZlIiM-00183-00057326-00057526 is similar in appearance to the Great jbAT4jZlIiM-00184-00057527-00057904 Red Spot but smaller in size the feature jbAT4jZlIiM-00185-00057904-00058167 was named oval ba and has been jbAT4jZlIiM-00186-00058169-00058573 named Red Spot jr. observations of the jbAT4jZlIiM-00187-00058574-00058858 Red Spot jr. storms suggest Jupiter jbAT4jZlIiM-00188-00058859-00059077 could be in a period of global climate jbAT4jZlIiM-00189-00059078-00059461 change this is hypothesized to be part jbAT4jZlIiM-00190-00059462-00059716 of an approximately seventy year global jbAT4jZlIiM-00191-00059716-00059950 climate cycle characterized by the jbAT4jZlIiM-00192-00059951-00060223 relatively rapid forming and subsequent jbAT4jZlIiM-00193-00060224-00060492 slow erosion and merging of cyclonic and jbAT4jZlIiM-00194-00060494-00060745 anticyclonic vortices in Jupiter's jbAT4jZlIiM-00195-00060746-00061111 atmosphere these vortices facilitate the jbAT4jZlIiM-00196-00061112-00061363 heat exchange between poles and equator jbAT4jZlIiM-00197-00061364-00061654 if they have sufficiently eroded heat jbAT4jZlIiM-00198-00061654-00061873 exchange is strongly reduced and jbAT4jZlIiM-00199-00061874-00062095 regional temperatures may shift by as jbAT4jZlIiM-00200-00062096-00062367 much as 10 K with the poles cooling down jbAT4jZlIiM-00201-00062369-00062698 in the equator region heating up the jbAT4jZlIiM-00202-00062699-00062962 resulting large temperature differential jbAT4jZlIiM-00203-00062963-00063226 D stabilizes the atmosphere and thereby jbAT4jZlIiM-00204-00063227-00063954 leads to the creation of new vortices jbAT4jZlIiM-00205-00063954-00064395 topic Saturn jbAT4jZlIiM-00206-00064396-00064738 the outer atmosphere of Saturn consists jbAT4jZlIiM-00207-00064739-00065325 of about 93.2% hydrogen and 6.7% helium jbAT4jZlIiM-00208-00065326-00065641 trace amounts of ammonia acetylene jbAT4jZlIiM-00209-00065642-00065950 ethane phosphine and methane have also jbAT4jZlIiM-00210-00065951-00066337 been detected as with Jupiter the upper jbAT4jZlIiM-00211-00066338-00066592 clouds on Saturn are composed of ammonia jbAT4jZlIiM-00212-00066593-00066817 crystals while the lower level clouds jbAT4jZlIiM-00213-00066818-00067063 appear to be composed of either ammonium jbAT4jZlIiM-00214-00067064-00067534 hydrosulfide NH 4 SH or water the jbAT4jZlIiM-00215-00067535-00067798 Saturnian atmosphere is in several ways jbAT4jZlIiM-00216-00067799-00068152 similar to that of Jupiter it exhibits jbAT4jZlIiM-00217-00068153-00068389 abandoned pattern similar to Jupiter's jbAT4jZlIiM-00218-00068390-00068632 and occasionally exhibits long-lived jbAT4jZlIiM-00219-00068633-00069022 ovals caused by storms a storm formation jbAT4jZlIiM-00220-00069023-00069256 analogous to Jupiter's Great Red Spot jbAT4jZlIiM-00221-00069257-00069505 the great white spot is a short-lived jbAT4jZlIiM-00222-00069506-00069775 phenomenon that forms with a roughly 30 jbAT4jZlIiM-00223-00069776-00070078 year period isset II it was last jbAT4jZlIiM-00224-00070079-00070486 observed in 1990 however the storms and jbAT4jZlIiM-00225-00070487-00070678 the band pattern are less visible and jbAT4jZlIiM-00226-00070679-00070921 active than those of Jupiter due to the jbAT4jZlIiM-00227-00070922-00071170 overlying ammonia hazers in Saturn's jbAT4jZlIiM-00228-00071171-00071536 troposphere Saturn's atmosphere has jbAT4jZlIiM-00229-00071537-00071857 several unusual features its winds are jbAT4jZlIiM-00230-00071858-00072100 among the solar system's fastest with jbAT4jZlIiM-00231-00072101-00072367 Voyager data indicating peak easterly jbAT4jZlIiM-00232-00072368-00072730 winds are 500 meters per second it is jbAT4jZlIiM-00233-00072731-00072991 also the only planet with a warm polar jbAT4jZlIiM-00234-00072992-00073249 vortex and is the only planet other than jbAT4jZlIiM-00235-00073250-00073432 Earth where eyewall clouds have been jbAT4jZlIiM-00236-00073433-00074142 observed in hurricane-like structures jbAT4jZlIiM-00237-00074143-00074893 topic Uranus the atmosphere of Uranus is jbAT4jZlIiM-00238-00074894-00075163 composed primarily of gas and various jbAT4jZlIiM-00239-00075164-00075685 ices it is about 83 percent hydrogen 15% jbAT4jZlIiM-00240-00075686-00075961 helium 2 percent methane and traces of jbAT4jZlIiM-00241-00075962-00076312 acetylene like Jupiter and Saturn Uranus jbAT4jZlIiM-00242-00076313-00076585 has a banded cloud layer although this jbAT4jZlIiM-00243-00076586-00076767 is not readily visible without jbAT4jZlIiM-00244-00076768-00077020 enhancement of visual images of the jbAT4jZlIiM-00245-00077021-00077380 planet unlike the larger gas giants the jbAT4jZlIiM-00246-00077381-00077602 low temperatures in the upper uranium jbAT4jZlIiM-00247-00077603-00077701 cloud layer jbAT4jZlIiM-00248-00077702-00078025 down to 50k causes cloud formation from jbAT4jZlIiM-00249-00078026-00078403 methane rather than ammonia less storm jbAT4jZlIiM-00250-00078404-00078604 activity has been observed in the jbAT4jZlIiM-00251-00078605-00078838 uranium atmosphere than in those of jbAT4jZlIiM-00252-00078839-00079084 Jupiter or Saturn due to the overlying jbAT4jZlIiM-00253-00079085-00079333 methane and acetylene Hayes's in its jbAT4jZlIiM-00254-00079334-00079570 atmosphere making the planet look like a jbAT4jZlIiM-00255-00079571-00080004 bland light blue globe images taken in jbAT4jZlIiM-00256-00080005-00080232 1997 with the Hubble Space Telescope jbAT4jZlIiM-00257-00080233-00080545 showed storm activity in that part of jbAT4jZlIiM-00258-00080546-00080830 the atmosphere emerging from the 25 year jbAT4jZlIiM-00259-00080831-00081166 long uranium winter the general lack of jbAT4jZlIiM-00260-00081167-00081436 storm activity may be related to the jbAT4jZlIiM-00261-00081437-00081661 lack of an internal energy generation jbAT4jZlIiM-00262-00081662-00081973 mechanism for Uranus a feature unique jbAT4jZlIiM-00263-00081974-00083119 among the gas giants topic Neptune the jbAT4jZlIiM-00264-00083120-00083371 atmosphere of Neptune is similar to that jbAT4jZlIiM-00265-00083372-00083671 of Uranus it is about 80 percent jbAT4jZlIiM-00266-00083672-00084037 hydrogen 19 percent helium and 1.5 jbAT4jZlIiM-00267-00084038-00084337 percent methane however the weather jbAT4jZlIiM-00268-00084338-00084595 activity on Neptune is much more active jbAT4jZlIiM-00269-00084596-00084856 and its atmosphere is much bluer than jbAT4jZlIiM-00270-00084857-00085168 that of Uranus the upper levels of the jbAT4jZlIiM-00271-00085169-00085396 atmosphere reached temperatures of about jbAT4jZlIiM-00272-00085397-00085741 55 K giving rise to methane clouds in jbAT4jZlIiM-00273-00085742-00085954 its troposphere which gives the planet jbAT4jZlIiM-00274-00085955-00086275 its ultramarine color temperatures rise jbAT4jZlIiM-00275-00086276-00086601 steadily deeper inside the atmosphere jbAT4jZlIiM-00276-00086602-00086884 Neptune has extremely dynamic weather jbAT4jZlIiM-00277-00086885-00087109 systems including the highest wind jbAT4jZlIiM-00278-00087110-00087352 speeds in the solar system thought to be jbAT4jZlIiM-00279-00087353-00087615 powered by the flow of internal heat jbAT4jZlIiM-00280-00087616-00087904 typical wins in the banded equatorial jbAT4jZlIiM-00281-00087905-00088255 region can possess speeds of around 350 jbAT4jZlIiM-00282-00088256-00088513 meters per second while storm systems jbAT4jZlIiM-00283-00088514-00088750 can have winds reaching up to around 900 jbAT4jZlIiM-00284-00088751-00089020 meters per second nearly the speed of jbAT4jZlIiM-00285-00089021-00089368 sound in Neptune's atmosphere several jbAT4jZlIiM-00286-00089369-00089569 large storm systems have been identified jbAT4jZlIiM-00287-00089570-00089902 including the great dark spot a cyclonic jbAT4jZlIiM-00288-00089903-00090145 storm system the size of Eurasia jbAT4jZlIiM-00289-00090146-00090397 the SCOOTER a white cloud group further jbAT4jZlIiM-00290-00090398-00090619 south than the great dark spot and the jbAT4jZlIiM-00291-00090620-00090874 wizard's eye dark spot to a southern jbAT4jZlIiM-00292-00090875-00091076 cyclonic storm jbAT4jZlIiM-00293-00091077-00091350 Neptune the farthest planet from Earth jbAT4jZlIiM-00294-00091351-00091721 has increased in brightness since 1980 jbAT4jZlIiM-00295-00091722-00091986 Neptune's brightness is statistically jbAT4jZlIiM-00296-00091987-00092190 correlated with its stratospheric jbAT4jZlIiM-00297-00092191-00092421 temperature Hamill and Lockwood jbAT4jZlIiM-00298-00092422-00092616 hypothesized that the change in jbAT4jZlIiM-00299-00092617-00092837 brightness includes a solar variation jbAT4jZlIiM-00300-00092838-00093072 component as well as a seasonal jbAT4jZlIiM-00301-00093073-00093288 component though they did not find a jbAT4jZlIiM-00302-00093289-00093450 statistically significant correlation jbAT4jZlIiM-00303-00093451-00093834 with solar variation they proposed that jbAT4jZlIiM-00304-00093835-00094065 the resolution of this issue will be jbAT4jZlIiM-00305-00094066-00094317 clarified by brightness observations in jbAT4jZlIiM-00306-00094318-00094449 the next few years jbAT4jZlIiM-00307-00094450-00094662 forcing by a change in sub solar jbAT4jZlIiM-00308-00094663-00094881 latitude should be reflected in a jbAT4jZlIiM-00309-00094882-00095064 flattening and decline of brightness jbAT4jZlIiM-00310-00095065-00095313 while solar forcing should be reflected jbAT4jZlIiM-00311-00095314-00095547 in a flattening and then resumed rise of jbAT4jZlIiM-00312-00095548-00096345 brightness topic other bodies in the jbAT4jZlIiM-00313-00096346-00097129 solar system jbAT4jZlIiM-00314-00097130-00097838 topic natural satellites ten of the many jbAT4jZlIiM-00315-00097839-00098087 natural satellites in the solar system jbAT4jZlIiM-00316-00098088-00098359 are known to have atmospheres Europa Io jbAT4jZlIiM-00317-00098360-00098735 Callisto Enceladus Ganymede Titan Rhea jbAT4jZlIiM-00318-00098736-00099022 die Oney Triton and Earth's moon jbAT4jZlIiM-00319-00099023-00099296 Ganymede and Europa both have very jbAT4jZlIiM-00320-00099297-00099557 tenuous oxygen atmospheres thought to be jbAT4jZlIiM-00321-00099558-00099785 produced by radiation splitting the jbAT4jZlIiM-00322-00099786-00099995 water ice present on the surface of jbAT4jZlIiM-00323-00099996-00100246 these moons into hydrogen and oxygen jbAT4jZlIiM-00324-00100247-00100549 io has an extremely thin atmosphere jbAT4jZlIiM-00325-00100550-00100897 consisting mainly of sulfur dioxide so2 jbAT4jZlIiM-00326-00100898-00101162 arising from volcanism and sunlight jbAT4jZlIiM-00327-00101163-00101408 driven sublimation of surface sulfur jbAT4jZlIiM-00328-00101409-00101744 dioxide deposits the atmosphere of jbAT4jZlIiM-00329-00101745-00101999 Enceladus is also extremely thin and jbAT4jZlIiM-00330-00102000-00102224 variable consisting mainly of water jbAT4jZlIiM-00331-00102225-00102508 vapor nitrogen methane and carbon jbAT4jZlIiM-00332-00102509-00102767 dioxide vented from the moon's interior jbAT4jZlIiM-00333-00102768-00103148 through cryovolcanism the extremely thin jbAT4jZlIiM-00334-00103149-00103451 carbon dioxide atmosphere of Callisto is jbAT4jZlIiM-00335-00103452-00103664 thought to be replenished by sublimation jbAT4jZlIiM-00336-00103665-00105149 from surface deposits topic moon topic jbAT4jZlIiM-00337-00105150-00105533 Titan jbAT4jZlIiM-00338-00105534-00105854 Titan has by far the densest atmosphere jbAT4jZlIiM-00339-00105855-00106151 of any moon the Titan is atmosphere is jbAT4jZlIiM-00340-00106152-00106347 in fact denser than Earth's with a jbAT4jZlIiM-00341-00106348-00106799 surface pressure of 147 kiloPascals one jbAT4jZlIiM-00342-00106800-00107102 and a half times it of the earth the jbAT4jZlIiM-00343-00107103-00107489 atmosphere is 98.4% nitrogen with the jbAT4jZlIiM-00344-00107490-00107849 remaining 1.6% composed of methane and jbAT4jZlIiM-00345-00107850-00108079 trace amounts of other gases such as jbAT4jZlIiM-00346-00108080-00108345 hydrocarbons including ethane die jbAT4jZlIiM-00347-00108346-00108621 acetylene methyl acetylene sino jbAT4jZlIiM-00348-00108622-00108957 acetylene acetylene propane argon carbon jbAT4jZlIiM-00349-00108958-00109286 dioxide carbon monoxide cyanogen jbAT4jZlIiM-00350-00109287-00109627 hydrogen cyanide and helium the jbAT4jZlIiM-00351-00109628-00109853 hydrocarbons are thought to form in jbAT4jZlIiM-00352-00109854-00110097 Titans upper atmosphere in reactions jbAT4jZlIiM-00353-00110098-00110358 resulting from the breakup of methane by jbAT4jZlIiM-00354-00110358-00110627 the sun's ultraviolet light producing a jbAT4jZlIiM-00355-00110628-00110987 thick orange smog Titan has no magnetic jbAT4jZlIiM-00356-00110988-00111231 field and sometimes orbits outside jbAT4jZlIiM-00357-00111232-00111524 Saturn's magnetosphere directly exposing jbAT4jZlIiM-00358-00111525-00111669 it to the solar wind jbAT4jZlIiM-00359-00111670-00111993 this may ionize and carry away some jbAT4jZlIiM-00360-00111994-00112324 molecules from the top of the atmosphere jbAT4jZlIiM-00361-00112325-00112616 Titan's atmosphere supports an opaque jbAT4jZlIiM-00362-00112617-00112896 cloud layer that obscures Titan surface jbAT4jZlIiM-00363-00112897-00113249 features at visible wavelengths the haze jbAT4jZlIiM-00364-00113250-00113504 that can be seen in the adjacent picture jbAT4jZlIiM-00365-00113505-00113697 contributes to the moon's anti jbAT4jZlIiM-00366-00113698-00113871 greenhouse effect and lowers the jbAT4jZlIiM-00367-00113872-00114116 temperature by reflecting sunlight away jbAT4jZlIiM-00368-00114117-00114404 from the satellite the thick atmosphere jbAT4jZlIiM-00369-00114405-00114683 blocks most visible wavelength light jbAT4jZlIiM-00370-00114684-00114890 from the Sun and other sources from jbAT4jZlIiM-00371-00114891-00115982 reaching Titan's surface topic triton jbAT4jZlIiM-00372-00115983-00116300 Triton Neptune's largest moon has a jbAT4jZlIiM-00373-00116301-00116564 tenuous nitrogen atmosphere with small jbAT4jZlIiM-00374-00116565-00116939 amounts of methane Tritonian atmospheric jbAT4jZlIiM-00375-00116940-00117260 pressure is about one Pascal the surface jbAT4jZlIiM-00376-00117261-00117554 temperature is at least 35 point 6 K jbAT4jZlIiM-00377-00117555-00117783 with the nitrogen atmosphere in jbAT4jZlIiM-00378-00117783-00118044 equilibrium with nitrogen ice on Triton jbAT4jZlIiM-00379-00118045-00118466 surface Triton has increased in absolute jbAT4jZlIiM-00380-00118467-00118797 temperature by five percent since 1989 jbAT4jZlIiM-00381-00118798-00118869 to jbAT4jZlIiM-00382-00118870-00119265 1998 a similar rise of temperature on jbAT4jZlIiM-00383-00119266-00119514 earth would be equal to about 11 degrees jbAT4jZlIiM-00384-00119515-00119808 Celsius 20 degrees Fahrenheit increase jbAT4jZlIiM-00385-00119808-00120054 in temperature in nine years at least jbAT4jZlIiM-00386-00120055-00120528 since 1989 triton has been undergoing a jbAT4jZlIiM-00387-00120529-00120884 period of global warming percentage-wise jbAT4jZlIiM-00388-00120885-00121341 it's a very large increase said James L jbAT4jZlIiM-00389-00121342-00121602 Elliot who published the report triton jbAT4jZlIiM-00390-00121603-00121835 is approaching an unusually warm summer jbAT4jZlIiM-00391-00121836-00122097 season that only happens once every few jbAT4jZlIiM-00392-00122098-00122408 hundred years Elliot and his colleagues jbAT4jZlIiM-00393-00122409-00122622 believe that Triton's warming trend jbAT4jZlIiM-00394-00122623-00122847 could be driven by seasonal changes in jbAT4jZlIiM-00395-00122848-00123099 the absorption of solar energy by its jbAT4jZlIiM-00396-00123100-00123450 polar icecaps one suggestion for this jbAT4jZlIiM-00397-00123451-00123683 warming is that it is a result of frost jbAT4jZlIiM-00398-00123684-00124029 patterns changing on its surface another jbAT4jZlIiM-00399-00124030-00124310 is that ice albedo has changed allowing jbAT4jZlIiM-00400-00124311-00124500 for more heat from the Sun to be jbAT4jZlIiM-00401-00124501-00124845 absorbed Bonnie J Bharati at I'll argue jbAT4jZlIiM-00402-00124846-00125094 the changes in temperature are a result jbAT4jZlIiM-00403-00125095-00125358 of deposition of dark red material from jbAT4jZlIiM-00404-00125358-00125649 geological processes on the moon such as jbAT4jZlIiM-00405-00125650-00125952 massive venting because Triton's bond jbAT4jZlIiM-00406-00125953-00126189 albedo is among the highest within the jbAT4jZlIiM-00407-00126190-00126438 solar system it is sensitive to small jbAT4jZlIiM-00408-00126439-00127254 variations in spectral albedo topic jbAT4jZlIiM-00409-00127255-00127656 Pluto jbAT4jZlIiM-00410-00127657-00127921 Pluto has an extremely thin atmosphere jbAT4jZlIiM-00411-00127922-00128233 that consists of nitrogen methane and jbAT4jZlIiM-00412-00128233-00128542 carbon monoxide derived from the ices on jbAT4jZlIiM-00413-00128543-00128872 its surface two models show that the jbAT4jZlIiM-00414-00128873-00129091 atmosphere does not completely freeze jbAT4jZlIiM-00415-00129092-00129322 and collapse when Pluto moves further jbAT4jZlIiM-00416-00129323-00129553 from the Sun on its extremely elliptical jbAT4jZlIiM-00417-00129554-00129958 orbit however some other models to show jbAT4jZlIiM-00418-00129958-00130375 this Pluto needs 248 years for one jbAT4jZlIiM-00419-00130376-00130633 complete orbit and has been observed for jbAT4jZlIiM-00420-00130633-00130966 less than one third of that time it has jbAT4jZlIiM-00421-00130967-00131266 an average distance of 39 astronomical jbAT4jZlIiM-00422-00131267-00131518 units from the Sun hence in depth data jbAT4jZlIiM-00423-00131519-00131779 from Pluto is sparse and difficult to jbAT4jZlIiM-00424-00131780-00132046 gather temperature is inferred jbAT4jZlIiM-00425-00132047-00132343 indirectly for Pluto when it passes in jbAT4jZlIiM-00426-00132344-00132616 front of a star observers note how fast jbAT4jZlIiM-00427-00132617-00132931 the light drops off from this they jbAT4jZlIiM-00428-00132932-00133168 deduce the density of the atmosphere and jbAT4jZlIiM-00429-00133169-00133360 that is used as an indicator of jbAT4jZlIiM-00430-00133361-00133759 temperature one such occultation event jbAT4jZlIiM-00431-00133760-00134128 happened in 1988 observations of a jbAT4jZlIiM-00432-00134129-00134518 second doc ulation on August 20th 2002 jbAT4jZlIiM-00433-00134519-00134749 suggests that Pluto's atmospheric jbAT4jZlIiM-00434-00134750-00134974 pressure has tripled indicating a jbAT4jZlIiM-00435-00134975-00135175 warming of about two degrees Celsius jbAT4jZlIiM-00436-00135176-00135457 three point six degrees Fahrenheit as jbAT4jZlIiM-00437-00135458-00135787 predicted by Hansen and Paige the jbAT4jZlIiM-00438-00135788-00136084 warming is likely not connected with jbAT4jZlIiM-00439-00136085-00136470 that of the earth says Jay passes off jbAT4jZlIiM-00440-00136471-00136759 one astronomer has speculated the jbAT4jZlIiM-00441-00136760-00136972 warming may be a result of eruptive jbAT4jZlIiM-00442-00136973-00137239 activity but it is more likely Pluto's jbAT4jZlIiM-00443-00137240-00137491 temperature is heavily influenced by its jbAT4jZlIiM-00444-00137492-00137815 elliptical orbit it was closest to the jbAT4jZlIiM-00445-00137816-00138184 Sun in 1989 perihelion and has slowly jbAT4jZlIiM-00446-00138185-00138541 receded since if it has any thermal jbAT4jZlIiM-00447-00138542-00138784 inertia it is expected to warm for a jbAT4jZlIiM-00448-00138785-00139081 while after it passes perihelion this jbAT4jZlIiM-00449-00139082-00139378 warming trend on Pluto could easily last jbAT4jZlIiM-00450-00139379-00139891 for another 13 years says David J Solon jbAT4jZlIiM-00451-00139892-00140134 it has also been suggested that a jbAT4jZlIiM-00452-00140135-00140398 darkening of surface ice may also be the jbAT4jZlIiM-00453-00140399-00140644 cause but additional data and modeling jbAT4jZlIiM-00454-00140645-00140890 is needed Frost jbAT4jZlIiM-00455-00140891-00141190 on the surface of Pluto is significantly jbAT4jZlIiM-00456-00141191-00141400 affected by the dwarf planets high jbAT4jZlIiM-00457-00141401-00142678 obliquity topic exoplanets several jbAT4jZlIiM-00458-00142679-00142896 planets outside the solar system jbAT4jZlIiM-00459-00142897-00143131 exoplanets have been observed to have jbAT4jZlIiM-00460-00143132-00143497 atmospheres at the present time most jbAT4jZlIiM-00461-00143498-00143698 atmosphere detections are of hot jbAT4jZlIiM-00462-00143699-00143935 Jupiters or hot Neptune's that orbit jbAT4jZlIiM-00463-00143936-00144169 very close to their star and thus have jbAT4jZlIiM-00464-00144170-00144465 heated an extended atmospheres jbAT4jZlIiM-00465-00144466-00144679 observations of exoplanet atmospheres jbAT4jZlIiM-00466-00144680-00145033 are of two types first transmission jbAT4jZlIiM-00467-00145034-00145291 photometer II or spectra detect the jbAT4jZlIiM-00468-00145292-00145474 light that passes through a planet's jbAT4jZlIiM-00469-00145475-00145714 atmosphere as it transits in front of jbAT4jZlIiM-00470-00145715-00146059 its star second the director mission jbAT4jZlIiM-00471-00146060-00146308 from a planet atmosphere may be detected jbAT4jZlIiM-00472-00146309-00146536 by differencing the star plus planet jbAT4jZlIiM-00473-00146537-00146716 light obtained during most of the jbAT4jZlIiM-00474-00146717-00146938 planets orbit with the light of just the jbAT4jZlIiM-00475-00146939-00147181 star during secondary eclipse when the jbAT4jZlIiM-00476-00147182-00147448 exoplanet is behind its star the first jbAT4jZlIiM-00477-00147449-00147739 observe extrasolar planetary atmosphere jbAT4jZlIiM-00478-00147740-00148138 was made in 2001 sodium in the jbAT4jZlIiM-00479-00148139-00148753 atmosphere of the planet HD 209458 B was jbAT4jZlIiM-00480-00148754-00148999 detected during a set of four transits jbAT4jZlIiM-00481-00149000-00149304 of the planet across its star later jbAT4jZlIiM-00482-00149305-00149485 observations with the Hubble Space jbAT4jZlIiM-00483-00149486-00149770 Telescope showed an enormous ellipsoidal jbAT4jZlIiM-00484-00149771-00150031 envelope of hydrogen carbon and oxygen jbAT4jZlIiM-00485-00150032-00150403 around the planet this envelope reaches jbAT4jZlIiM-00486-00150404-00150685 temperatures of 10,000 K the planet is jbAT4jZlIiM-00487-00150686-00150993 estimated to be losing one to five times jbAT4jZlIiM-00488-00150994-00151347 108 kilograms of hydrogen per second jbAT4jZlIiM-00489-00151348-00151645 this type of atmosphere loss may be jbAT4jZlIiM-00490-00151646-00151888 common to all planets orbiting sun-like jbAT4jZlIiM-00491-00151889-00152191 stars closer than around 0.1 jbAT4jZlIiM-00492-00152192-00152533 astronomical units in addition to jbAT4jZlIiM-00493-00152534-00153211 hydrogen carbon and oxygen HD 209458 B jbAT4jZlIiM-00494-00153212-00153442 is thought to have water vapour in its jbAT4jZlIiM-00495-00153443-00153805 atmosphere sodium and water vapor has jbAT4jZlIiM-00496-00153806-00154063 also been observed in the atmosphere of jbAT4jZlIiM-00497-00154064-00154231 HD 100 jbAT4jZlIiM-00498-00154232-00154459 eighty-nine thousand seven hundred and jbAT4jZlIiM-00499-00154460-00154716 thirty three be another hot vast giant jbAT4jZlIiM-00500-00154717-00155221 planet in October 2013 the detection of jbAT4jZlIiM-00501-00155222-00155494 clouds in the atmosphere of Kepler 7b jbAT4jZlIiM-00502-00155495-00155838 was announced and in December 2013 also jbAT4jZlIiM-00503-00155839-00156256 in the atmospheres of Glaser 436 B in jbAT4jZlIiM-00504-00156257-00156663 Glaser 1214b in May 2017 glints of light jbAT4jZlIiM-00505-00156664-00156919 from Earth seen as twinkling from an jbAT4jZlIiM-00506-00156920-00157137 orbiting satellite a million miles away jbAT4jZlIiM-00507-00157138-00157345 were found to be reflected light from jbAT4jZlIiM-00508-00157346-00157677 ice crystals in the atmosphere the jbAT4jZlIiM-00509-00157678-00157921 technology used to determine this may be jbAT4jZlIiM-00510-00157922-00158158 useful in studying the atmospheres of jbAT4jZlIiM-00511-00158159-00158379 distant worlds including those of jbAT4jZlIiM-00512-00158380-00159551 exoplanets topic atmospheric composition jbAT4jZlIiM-00513-00159552-00159987 in 2001 sodium was detected in the jbAT4jZlIiM-00514-00159988-00160728 atmosphere of HD 209458 B in 2008 water jbAT4jZlIiM-00515-00160729-00161023 carbon monoxide carbon dioxide and jbAT4jZlIiM-00516-00161024-00161199 methane were detected in the atmosphere jbAT4jZlIiM-00517-00161200-00162157 of HD 189733 B in 2013 water was jbAT4jZlIiM-00518-00162158-00162724 detected in the atmospheres of HD 209458 jbAT4jZlIiM-00519-00162725-00163294 B xo1 B was 12 B was 17 bee and wasp 19 jbAT4jZlIiM-00520-00163295-00163681 B in July 2014 NASA announced finding jbAT4jZlIiM-00521-00163682-00163953 very dry atmospheres on three exoplanets jbAT4jZlIiM-00522-00163954-00164325 HD one eight nine seven three three b HD jbAT4jZlIiM-00523-00164326-00164613 two oh nine four five eight B was twelve jbAT4jZlIiM-00524-00164614-00164923 B orbiting sun-like stars in September jbAT4jZlIiM-00525-00164924-00165315 2014 NASA reported that had P 11 B is jbAT4jZlIiM-00526-00165316-00165588 the first neptune-sized exoplanet known jbAT4jZlIiM-00527-00165589-00165799 to have a relatively cloud free jbAT4jZlIiM-00528-00165800-00166029 atmosphere and as well the first time jbAT4jZlIiM-00529-00166030-00166278 molecules of any kind have been found jbAT4jZlIiM-00530-00166279-00166543 specifically water vapor on such a jbAT4jZlIiM-00531-00166544-00166822 relatively small exoplanet the presence jbAT4jZlIiM-00532-00166823-00167143 of molecular oxygen o2 may be detectable jbAT4jZlIiM-00533-00167144-00167415 by ground-based telescopes and it can be jbAT4jZlIiM-00534-00167416-00167628 produced by geophysical process jbAT4jZlIiM-00535-00167629-00167928 as well as a byproduct of photosynthesis jbAT4jZlIiM-00536-00167929-00168045 by life-forms jbAT4jZlIiM-00537-00168046-00168294 so although encouraging Oh - is not a jbAT4jZlIiM-00538-00168295-00168684 reliable bio signature in fact planets jbAT4jZlIiM-00539-00168685-00168943 with high concentration of o2 in their jbAT4jZlIiM-00540-00168944-00169302 atmosphere may be uninhabitable amiyo jbAT4jZlIiM-00541-00169303-00169500 genesis in the presence of massive jbAT4jZlIiM-00542-00169501-00169773 amounts of atmospheric oxygen could be jbAT4jZlIiM-00543-00169774-00170022 difficult because early organisms relied jbAT4jZlIiM-00544-00170023-00170286 on the free energy available in redox jbAT4jZlIiM-00545-00170287-00170508 reactions involving a variety of jbAT4jZlIiM-00546-00170509-00170819 hydrogen compounds on an o2 rich planet jbAT4jZlIiM-00547-00170820-00171069 organisms would have to compete with the jbAT4jZlIiM-00548-00171070-00171387 oxygen for this free energy in June 2015 jbAT4jZlIiM-00549-00171388-00171744 NASA reported that was 33 B has a jbAT4jZlIiM-00550-00171745-00172107 stratosphere ozone and hydrocarbons jbAT4jZlIiM-00551-00172108-00172329 absorb large amounts of ultraviolet jbAT4jZlIiM-00552-00172330-00172611 radiation heating the upper parts of jbAT4jZlIiM-00553-00172612-00172872 atmospheres that contain them creating a jbAT4jZlIiM-00554-00172873-00173150 temperature inversion and a stratosphere jbAT4jZlIiM-00555-00173151-00173466 however these molecules are destroyed at jbAT4jZlIiM-00556-00173467-00173670 the temperatures of hot exoplanets jbAT4jZlIiM-00557-00173671-00173928 creating doubt if the hot exoplanets jbAT4jZlIiM-00558-00173929-00174252 could have a stratosphere a temperature jbAT4jZlIiM-00559-00174253-00174453 inversion and stratosphere was jbAT4jZlIiM-00560-00174454-00174844 identified on 133 be caused by titanium jbAT4jZlIiM-00561-00174845-00175077 oxide which is a strong absorber of jbAT4jZlIiM-00562-00175078-00175332 visible and ultraviolet radiation and jbAT4jZlIiM-00563-00175333-00175569 can only exist as a gas in a hot jbAT4jZlIiM-00564-00175570-00175937 atmosphere whilst 33 B is the hottest jbAT4jZlIiM-00565-00175938-00176273 exoplanet known with a temperature of jbAT4jZlIiM-00566-00176274-00176622 3200 degrees Celsius five thousand seven jbAT4jZlIiM-00567-00176623-00176856 hundred and ninety degrees Fahrenheit jbAT4jZlIiM-00568-00176857-00177063 and is approximately four and a half jbAT4jZlIiM-00569-00177064-00177356 times the mass of Jupiter in February jbAT4jZlIiM-00570-00177357-00177663 2016 it was announced that nasa's hubble jbAT4jZlIiM-00571-00177664-00177969 space telescope had detected hydrogen jbAT4jZlIiM-00572-00177970-00178221 and helium and suggestions of hydrogen jbAT4jZlIiM-00573-00178222-00178456 cyanide but no water vapor in the jbAT4jZlIiM-00574-00178457-00178803 atmosphere of 55 Cancri E the first time jbAT4jZlIiM-00575-00178804-00178981 the atmosphere of a super-earth jbAT4jZlIiM-00576-00178982-00179729 exoplanet was analysed successfully jbAT4jZlIiM-00577-00179730-00180420 topic atmospheric circulation the jbAT4jZlIiM-00578-00180421-00180599 atmospheric circulation jbAT4jZlIiM-00579-00180600-00180815 of planets that rotate more slowly or jbAT4jZlIiM-00580-00180816-00181055 have a thicker atmosphere allows more jbAT4jZlIiM-00581-00181056-00181304 heat to flow to the poles which reduces jbAT4jZlIiM-00582-00181305-00181526 the temperature differences between the jbAT4jZlIiM-00583-00181527-00182675 poles and the equator topic clouds in jbAT4jZlIiM-00584-00182676-00183032 October 2013 the detection of clouds in jbAT4jZlIiM-00585-00183033-00183263 the atmosphere of Kepler 7b was jbAT4jZlIiM-00586-00183264-00183620 announced and in December 2013 also in jbAT4jZlIiM-00587-00183621-00184666 the atmospheres of GJ 436b and GJ 1214b jbAT4jZlIiM-00588-00184667-00185372 topic precipitation precipitation in the jbAT4jZlIiM-00589-00185373-00185711 form of liquid rain or solid snow varies jbAT4jZlIiM-00590-00185712-00185957 in composition depending on atmospheric jbAT4jZlIiM-00591-00185958-00186209 temperature pressure composition and jbAT4jZlIiM-00592-00186210-00186581 altitude hot atmospheres could have iron jbAT4jZlIiM-00593-00186582-00186845 rain molten glass rain and rain made jbAT4jZlIiM-00594-00186846-00187064 from rocky minerals such as enstatite jbAT4jZlIiM-00595-00187065-00187457 corundum spinel and Wallace tonight deep jbAT4jZlIiM-00596-00187458-00187685 in the atmospheres of gas giants it jbAT4jZlIiM-00597-00187686-00187877 could rain diamonds and helium jbAT4jZlIiM-00598-00187878-00188716 containing dissolved neon topic abiotic jbAT4jZlIiM-00599-00188717-00189094 oxygen jbAT4jZlIiM-00600-00189095-00189383 there are geological and atmospheric jbAT4jZlIiM-00601-00189384-00189662 processes that produce free oxygen so jbAT4jZlIiM-00602-00189663-00189851 the detection of oxygen is not jbAT4jZlIiM-00603-00189852-00190115 necessarily an indication of life the jbAT4jZlIiM-00604-00190116-00190379 processes of life result in a mixture of jbAT4jZlIiM-00605-00190380-00190574 chemicals that are not in chemical jbAT4jZlIiM-00606-00190575-00190835 equilibrium but there are also a biotic jbAT4jZlIiM-00607-00190836-00191108 disequilibrium processes that need to be jbAT4jZlIiM-00608-00191109-00191462 considered the most robust atmospheric jbAT4jZlIiM-00609-00191463-00191714 bio signature is often considered to be jbAT4jZlIiM-00610-00191715-00191965 molecular oxygen o2 and it's jbAT4jZlIiM-00611-00191966-00192371 photochemical by-product ozone o3 the jbAT4jZlIiM-00612-00192372-00192716 photolysis of water h2o by UV rays jbAT4jZlIiM-00613-00192717-00192977 followed by hydrodynamic escape of jbAT4jZlIiM-00614-00192978-00193256 hydrogen can lead to a buildup of oxygen jbAT4jZlIiM-00615-00193257-00193439 in planets close to their star jbAT4jZlIiM-00616-00193440-00193805 undergoing runaway greenhouse effect for jbAT4jZlIiM-00617-00193806-00194030 planets in the habitable zone it was jbAT4jZlIiM-00618-00194031-00194255 thought that water photolysis would be jbAT4jZlIiM-00619-00194256-00194486 strongly limited by cold trapping of jbAT4jZlIiM-00620-00194487-00194767 water vapour in the lower atmosphere jbAT4jZlIiM-00621-00194768-00195140 however the extent of h2o cold trapping jbAT4jZlIiM-00622-00195141-00195365 depends strongly on the amount of non jbAT4jZlIiM-00623-00195366-00195626 condensable gases in the atmosphere such jbAT4jZlIiM-00624-00195627-00196019 as nitrogen n2 and argan in the absence jbAT4jZlIiM-00625-00196020-00196274 of such gases the likelihood of buildup jbAT4jZlIiM-00626-00196275-00196577 of oxygen also depends in complex ways jbAT4jZlIiM-00627-00196578-00196871 on the planet secretion history internal jbAT4jZlIiM-00628-00196872-00197111 chemistry atmospheric dynamics and jbAT4jZlIiM-00629-00197112-00197489 orbital state therefore oxygen on its jbAT4jZlIiM-00630-00197490-00197765 own cannot be considered a robust bio jbAT4jZlIiM-00631-00197766-00198110 signature the ratio of nitrogen and jbAT4jZlIiM-00632-00198111-00198362 argon to oxygen could be detected by jbAT4jZlIiM-00633-00198363-00198590 studying thermal phase curves or by jbAT4jZlIiM-00634-00198591-00198805 transit transmission spectroscopy jbAT4jZlIiM-00635-00198806-00199031 measurement of the spectral Rayleigh jbAT4jZlIiM-00636-00199032-00199268 scattering slope in a clear sky ie jbAT4jZlIiM-00637-00199269-00200491 aerosol free atmosphere topic methane jbAT4jZlIiM-00638-00200492-00200735 detection of methane in astronomical jbAT4jZlIiM-00639-00200736-00200975 bodies is of interest to science and jbAT4jZlIiM-00640-00200976-00201212 technology as it may be evidence of jbAT4jZlIiM-00641-00201213-00201485 extraterrestrial life bio signature it jbAT4jZlIiM-00642-00201486-00201755 may help provide organic ingredients for jbAT4jZlIiM-00643-00201756-00202028 life to form and also methane could be jbAT4jZlIiM-00644-00202029-00202271 used as a fuel or rocket propellant for jbAT4jZlIiM-00645-00202272-00202382 future robotic jbAT4jZlIiM-00646-00202383-00202645 crude missions in the solar system jbAT4jZlIiM-00647-00202646-00202997 mercury the tenuous atmosphere contains jbAT4jZlIiM-00648-00202998-00203372 trace amounts of methane Venus the jbAT4jZlIiM-00649-00203373-00203597 atmosphere contains a large amount of jbAT4jZlIiM-00650-00203598-00203957 methane from 60 kilometres 37 miles to jbAT4jZlIiM-00651-00203958-00204163 the surface according to data collected jbAT4jZlIiM-00652-00204164-00204475 by the Pioneer Venus large probe neutral jbAT4jZlIiM-00653-00204476-00204830 mass spectrometer moon traces are jbAT4jZlIiM-00654-00204831-00205165 outgassed from the surface Mars the jbAT4jZlIiM-00655-00205166-00205444 Martian atmosphere contains 10 nm o L jbAT4jZlIiM-00656-00205446-00205754 per mole methane the source of methane jbAT4jZlIiM-00657-00205755-00206017 on Mars has not been determined jbAT4jZlIiM-00658-00206019-00206284 research suggests that methane may come jbAT4jZlIiM-00659-00206285-00206512 from volcanoes fault lines or jbAT4jZlIiM-00660-00206513-00206777 methanogens that it may be a by-product jbAT4jZlIiM-00661-00206778-00206989 of electrical discharges from dust jbAT4jZlIiM-00662-00206990-00207232 devils and dust storms or that it may be jbAT4jZlIiM-00663-00207233-00207633 the result of UV radiation in January jbAT4jZlIiM-00664-00207634-00207980 2009 NASA scientists announced that they jbAT4jZlIiM-00665-00207981-00208175 had discovered that the planet often jbAT4jZlIiM-00666-00208176-00208396 vents methane into the atmosphere in jbAT4jZlIiM-00667-00208398-00208657 specific areas leading some to speculate jbAT4jZlIiM-00668-00208658-00208888 this may be a sign of biological jbAT4jZlIiM-00669-00208889-00209266 activity below the surface the Curiosity jbAT4jZlIiM-00670-00209267-00209515 rover which landed on Mars in August jbAT4jZlIiM-00671-00209516-00209773 2012 can distinguish between different jbAT4jZlIiM-00672-00209775-00210067 isotopologues of methane but even if the jbAT4jZlIiM-00673-00210069-00210263 mission determines that microscopic jbAT4jZlIiM-00674-00210264-00210464 Martian life is the source of the jbAT4jZlIiM-00675-00210465-00210713 methane it probably resides far below jbAT4jZlIiM-00676-00210714-00211057 the surface beyond the rover's reach the jbAT4jZlIiM-00677-00211058-00211241 first measurements with the tunable jbAT4jZlIiM-00678-00211242-00211558 laser spectrometer TLS indicated that jbAT4jZlIiM-00679-00211559-00211846 there is less than 5 ppb of methane at jbAT4jZlIiM-00680-00211848-00212194 the landing site on the 16th of December jbAT4jZlIiM-00681-00212196-00212535 2014 NASA reported the Curiosity rover jbAT4jZlIiM-00682-00212536-00212932 detected a tenfold spike likely jbAT4jZlIiM-00683-00212933-00213191 localized in the amount of methane in jbAT4jZlIiM-00684-00213192-00213476 the Martian atmosphere sample jbAT4jZlIiM-00685-00213477-00213827 measurements taken a dozen times over 20 jbAT4jZlIiM-00686-00213828-00214250 months showed increases in late 2013 and jbAT4jZlIiM-00687-00214251-00214637 early 2014 averaging seven parts of jbAT4jZlIiM-00688-00214638-00214927 methane per billion in the atmosphere jbAT4jZlIiM-00689-00214928-00215219 before and after that readings averaged jbAT4jZlIiM-00690-00215219-00215407 around one tenth that level jbAT4jZlIiM-00691-00215408-00215714 the spikes in concentrations suggest jbAT4jZlIiM-00692-00215715-00215769 that jbAT4jZlIiM-00693-00215771-00216038 episodically producing or releasing jbAT4jZlIiM-00694-00216039-00216344 methane from an unknown source the jbAT4jZlIiM-00695-00216344-00216598 ExoMars trace gas orbiter will perform jbAT4jZlIiM-00696-00216600-00216808 measurements of methane starting in jbAT4jZlIiM-00697-00216809-00217117 April 2018 as well as its decomposition jbAT4jZlIiM-00698-00217117-00217369 products such as formaldehyde and jbAT4jZlIiM-00699-00217371-00217763 methanol Jupiter the atmosphere contains jbAT4jZlIiM-00700-00217764-00218092 three thousand plus or minus 1000 ppm jbAT4jZlIiM-00701-00218094-00218492 methane Saturn the atmosphere contains jbAT4jZlIiM-00702-00218492-00218762 four thousand five hundred plus or minus jbAT4jZlIiM-00703-00218763-00219052 2,000 ppm methane Enceladus the jbAT4jZlIiM-00704-00219053-00219444 atmosphere contains 1.7 percent methane jbAT4jZlIiM-00705-00219446-00219927 ya pitous Titan the atmosphere contains jbAT4jZlIiM-00706-00219928-00220223 1.6 percent methane and thousands of jbAT4jZlIiM-00707-00220223-00220444 methane Lakes have been detected on the jbAT4jZlIiM-00708-00220446-00220790 surface in the upper atmosphere methane jbAT4jZlIiM-00709-00220791-00221080 is converted into more complex molecules jbAT4jZlIiM-00710-00221081-00221344 including acetylene a process that also jbAT4jZlIiM-00711-00221346-00221692 produces molecular hydrogen there is jbAT4jZlIiM-00712-00221694-00221932 evidence that acetylene and hydrogen are jbAT4jZlIiM-00713-00221933-00222204 recycled into methane near the surface jbAT4jZlIiM-00714-00222205-00222491 this suggests the presence either of an jbAT4jZlIiM-00715-00222492-00222767 exotic catalyst possibly an unknown form jbAT4jZlIiM-00716-00222767-00223123 of methanogenic life methane showers jbAT4jZlIiM-00717-00223125-00223375 probably prompted by changing seasons jbAT4jZlIiM-00718-00223376-00223801 have also been observed on October 24 jbAT4jZlIiM-00719-00223802-00223916 2014 jbAT4jZlIiM-00720-00223917-00224179 methane was found in polar clouds on jbAT4jZlIiM-00721-00224180-00224690 Titan Uranus the atmosphere contains 2.3 jbAT4jZlIiM-00722-00224691-00224912 percent methane aerial methane is jbAT4jZlIiM-00723-00224913-00225142 believed to be a constituent of areal jbAT4jZlIiM-00724-00225144-00225534 surface ice Maranda jbAT4jZlIiM-00725-00225535-00225855 Oberon about 20% of Oberon surface ice jbAT4jZlIiM-00726-00225856-00226116 is composed of methane related carbon jbAT4jZlIiM-00727-00226117-00226614 nitrogen compounds titania about 20% of jbAT4jZlIiM-00728-00226615-00226866 titania surface ice is composed of jbAT4jZlIiM-00729-00226867-00227167 methane related organic compounds jbAT4jZlIiM-00730-00227169-00227454 Umbriel methane is a constituent of jbAT4jZlIiM-00731-00227455-00227796 Umbriel surface ice Neptune the jbAT4jZlIiM-00732-00227796-00228087 atmosphere contains 1 point 5 plus or jbAT4jZlIiM-00733-00228088-00228446 minus 0.5 percent methane Triton Triton jbAT4jZlIiM-00734-00228448-00228702 has a tenuous nitrogen atmosphere with jbAT4jZlIiM-00735-00228703-00228896 small amounts of methane near the jbAT4jZlIiM-00736-00228898-00229410 surface pluto spectroscopic analysis of jbAT4jZlIiM-00737-00229411-00229646 Pluto's surface reveals it to contain jbAT4jZlIiM-00738-00229648-00229898 traces of methane Charon methane is jbAT4jZlIiM-00739-00229900-00230117 believed present on Charron but it is jbAT4jZlIiM-00740-00230119-00230508 not completely confirmed Eris infrared jbAT4jZlIiM-00741-00230509-00230696 light from the object revealed the jbAT4jZlIiM-00742-00230698-00231092 presence of methane ice Halley's comet jbAT4jZlIiM-00743-00231092-00231317 comet Hyakutake jbAT4jZlIiM-00744-00231319-00231569 terrestrial observations found ethane jbAT4jZlIiM-00745-00231571-00231900 and methane in the comet extrasolar jbAT4jZlIiM-00746-00231901-00232131 planets methane was detected on jbAT4jZlIiM-00747-00232132-00232367 extrasolar planet HD one eight nine jbAT4jZlIiM-00748-00232369-00232623 seven three three B this is the first jbAT4jZlIiM-00749-00232623-00232884 detection of an organic compound on a jbAT4jZlIiM-00750-00232885-00233202 planet outside the solar system its jbAT4jZlIiM-00751-00233203-00233475 origin is unknown since the planets high jbAT4jZlIiM-00752-00233476-00233792 temperature 700 degrees Celsius would jbAT4jZlIiM-00753-00233794-00234012 normally favor the formation of carbon jbAT4jZlIiM-00754-00234013-00234371 monoxide instead research indicates that jbAT4jZlIiM-00755-00234373-00234639 meteoroids slamming against exoplanet jbAT4jZlIiM-00756-00234640-00234885 atmospheres could add hydrocarbon gases jbAT4jZlIiM-00757-00234886-00235176 such as methane making the exoplanets jbAT4jZlIiM-00758-00235177-00235341 look as though they are inhabited by jbAT4jZlIiM-00759-00235342-00235716 life even if they are not interstellar jbAT4jZlIiM-00760-00235717-00236263 clouds the atmospheres of m-type stars jbAT4jZlIiM-00761-00236264-00236652 equals equals see also jbJdKdmV_ho-00000-00000000-00000236 Oh punky job yourself killed hey it's me jbJdKdmV_ho-00001-00000237-00000488 que le B greetings butchers you've got jbJdKdmV_ho-00002-00000488-00000665 camera hand that's a serious illness I jbJdKdmV_ho-00003-00000666-00000827 know I should get that checked out by a 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jbJdKdmV_ho-00017-00004448-00004790 funny it is not at all I'm glad I didn't jbJdKdmV_ho-00018-00004791-00004954 open my mouth ed where'd you get that jbJdKdmV_ho-00019-00004955-00005459 scar on your arm uh oh my god the turkey jbJdKdmV_ho-00020-00005460-00005752 I've got a scar on my arm too I got jbJdKdmV_ho-00021-00005753-00006047 herpes you were like scar brothers no jbJdKdmV_ho-00022-00006048-00006227 I'm herpes ecking off the dog makes the jbJdKdmV_ho-00023-00006228-00006448 dog vibrate okay O'Reilly you want to jbJdKdmV_ho-00024-00006450-00006752 give me six for money dog prostitution jbJdKdmV_ho-00025-00006753-00007181 it's not funny it's not funny check out jbJdKdmV_ho-00026-00007181-00007534 this vacuum that looks extremely sexual jbJdKdmV_ho-00027-00007536-00007955 yeah it's called Caleb's vacuum suck it jbJdKdmV_ho-00028-00007956-00008387 that's the slogan jbJdKdmV_ho-00029-00008388-00008844 I'm pleasuring myself to the dog jbJdKdmV_ho-00030-00008845-00009183 job 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jd-uWaTZCI4-00010-00021920-00024093 [Music] jd-uWaTZCI4-00012-00028663-00029839 foreign jd-uWaTZCI4-00013-00029839-00032774 foreign jd-uWaTZCI4-00014-00032775-00033016 factory jeAk7jsK9NU-00000-00000050-00000413 on Rios off' makiel now on january 24 jeAk7jsK9NU-00001-00000415-00000832 1932 to September 21st 1996 was a dutch jeAk7jsK9NU-00002-00000833-00000940 catholic priest jeAk7jsK9NU-00003-00000941-00001204 professor writer and theologian his jeAk7jsK9NU-00004-00001205-00001381 interests were rooted primarily in jeAk7jsK9NU-00005-00001382-00001575 psychology pastoral ministry jeAk7jsK9NU-00006-00001576-00001798 spirituality social justice and jeAk7jsK9NU-00007-00001798-00002047 community over the course of his life jeAk7jsK9NU-00008-00002048-00002233 now and was heavily influenced by the jeAk7jsK9NU-00009-00002234-00002464 work of anton boysson Thomas Merton jeAk7jsK9NU-00010-00002465-00002689 Rembrandt Vincent van Gogh and Jean jeAk7jsK9NU-00011-00002690-00003009 Vanier after nearly two decades of jeAk7jsK9NU-00012-00003010-00003199 teaching at academic institutions jeAk7jsK9NU-00013-00003200-00003372 including the University of Notre Dame jeAk7jsK9NU-00014-00003373-00003610 Yale Divinity School in Harvard Divinity jeAk7jsK9NU-00015-00003611-00003694 School jeAk7jsK9NU-00016-00003695-00003883 now and went on to work with individuals jeAk7jsK9NU-00017-00003884-00004040 with intellectual and developmental jeAk7jsK9NU-00018-00004042-00004252 disabilities at the large daybreak jeAk7jsK9NU-00019-00004253-00004769 community in Richmond Hill Ontario jeAk7jsK9NU-00020-00004770-00005294 topic biography jeAk7jsK9NU-00021-00005295-00005792 topic early life jeAk7jsK9NU-00022-00005793-00006032 Honorine Owen was born in Meeker the jeAk7jsK9NU-00023-00006033-00006445 Netherlands on January 24 1932 he was jeAk7jsK9NU-00024-00006447-00006629 the oldest of four children born to jeAk7jsK9NU-00025-00006630-00006869 Laurent JME nowan and Maria nowan nee jeAk7jsK9NU-00026-00006870-00007145 Ram salar now ins father was a tax jeAk7jsK9NU-00027-00007145-00007301 lawyer and his mother worked as a jeAk7jsK9NU-00028-00007302-00007498 bookkeeper for her family's business in jeAk7jsK9NU-00029-00007500-00007751 Amersfoort his younger brother Paul jeAk7jsK9NU-00030-00007752-00007967 nowan was a prominent Dutch businessman jeAk7jsK9NU-00031-00007968-00008198 and his uncle tun Ram salar was a Roman jeAk7jsK9NU-00032-00008199-00008396 Catholic priest in the Archdiocese of jeAk7jsK9NU-00033-00008397-00008596 Utrecht and a co-founder of the service jeAk7jsK9NU-00034-00008597-00008780 Internacional de documentation jeAk7jsK9NU-00035-00008781-00009083 judeo-christian Nouwen studied at the jeAk7jsK9NU-00036-00009084-00009287 Jesuit alouicious College in the hague jeAk7jsK9NU-00037-00009288-00009452 before spending a year at the minor jeAk7jsK9NU-00038-00009453-00009728 seminary in April Dorn his year at the jeAk7jsK9NU-00039-00009729-00009938 school was spent preparing for six years jeAk7jsK9NU-00040-00009939-00010138 of study for the priesthood consisting jeAk7jsK9NU-00041-00010139-00010307 of training in philosophy and theology jeAk7jsK9NU-00042-00010308-00010820 at the major seminary in Richardson burg jeAk7jsK9NU-00043-00010821-00011304 topic Priesthood jeAk7jsK9NU-00044-00011305-00011529 now in was ordained a Catholic priest jeAk7jsK9NU-00045-00011530-00011763 for the Archdiocese of Utrecht on July jeAk7jsK9NU-00046-00011764-00012123 21st 1957 by Bernard asal Frank at st. jeAk7jsK9NU-00047-00012124-00012393 Catherine's Cathedral in Utrecht eager jeAk7jsK9NU-00048-00012394-00012558 to learn more about himself and the jeAk7jsK9NU-00049-00012559-00012762 people he counseled now in requested jeAk7jsK9NU-00050-00012763-00012921 permission from Alfred to study jeAk7jsK9NU-00051-00012922-00013209 psychology instead of theology his jeAk7jsK9NU-00052-00013210-00013505 request was granted and from 1957 to jeAk7jsK9NU-00053-00013506-00013740 1964 he studied at the Catholic jeAk7jsK9NU-00054-00013741-00014022 University of Nemea ghen in studying the jeAk7jsK9NU-00055-00014022-00014253 fundamentals of clinical psychology now jeAk7jsK9NU-00056-00014254-00014375 and struggled with the lack of jeAk7jsK9NU-00057-00014376-00014672 interdisciplinary analysis he sought to jeAk7jsK9NU-00058-00014674-00014891 use psychology as a means of exploring jeAk7jsK9NU-00059-00014893-00015075 the human side of faith which he felt jeAk7jsK9NU-00060-00015076-00015243 was being overlooked from a pastoral jeAk7jsK9NU-00061-00015244-00015447 standpoint in broader theological jeAk7jsK9NU-00062-00015447-00015690 discussions during his studies at the jeAk7jsK9NU-00063-00015691-00015909 University he was greatly influenced by jeAk7jsK9NU-00064-00015910-00016134 Hahn Fortman a Dutch psychologist of jeAk7jsK9NU-00065-00016135-00016332 religion who's writing about action and jeAk7jsK9NU-00066-00016333-00016506 contemplation in a busy world are jeAk7jsK9NU-00067-00016507-00016737 mirrored in now in his own work for his jeAk7jsK9NU-00068-00016738-00016953 thesis work now in focused on Anton jeAk7jsK9NU-00069-00016954-00017166 boysson an American minister credited jeAk7jsK9NU-00070-00017167-00017304 with founding the clinical pastoral jeAk7jsK9NU-00071-00017305-00017595 education movement the thesis was not jeAk7jsK9NU-00072-00017596-00017762 approved due to a lack of scientific jeAk7jsK9NU-00073-00017763-00018099 analysis in clinical study rather than jeAk7jsK9NU-00074-00018100-00018294 revising the work to obtain a doctorate jeAk7jsK9NU-00075-00018295-00018600 Nouwen completed his studies in 1964 by jeAk7jsK9NU-00076-00018601-00018872 obtaining a doctorandus degree after jeAk7jsK9NU-00077-00018873-00019122 receiving his dr. andis Nouwen studied jeAk7jsK9NU-00078-00019123-00019287 for two years as a fellow in the jeAk7jsK9NU-00079-00019288-00019497 religion and psychiatry program at the jeAk7jsK9NU-00080-00019498-00019697 Menninger clinic in Topeka Kansas and jeAk7jsK9NU-00081-00019698-00019905 was influenced by psychologist gordon jeAk7jsK9NU-00082-00019906-00020187 allport now and completed his clinical jeAk7jsK9NU-00083-00020188-00020372 pastoral training at the Topeka State jeAk7jsK9NU-00084-00020373-00020544 Hospital and graduated from the jeAk7jsK9NU-00085-00020545-00020739 Menninger foundations training program jeAk7jsK9NU-00086-00020740-00020964 in theology and psychiatric theory On jeAk7jsK9NU-00087-00020965-00021339 June 19 1965 during his time at the jeAk7jsK9NU-00088-00021340-00021522 clinic he found he preferred direct jeAk7jsK9NU-00089-00021523-00021699 contact with patients over the more jeAk7jsK9NU-00090-00021700-00021909 scientific and medical analysis of jeAk7jsK9NU-00091-00021910-00022164 certain branches of psychology this jeAk7jsK9NU-00092-00022165-00022332 prompted an examination of his jeAk7jsK9NU-00093-00022333-00022527 professional practice in order to better jeAk7jsK9NU-00094-00022528-00022740 integrate spiritual ministry with modern jeAk7jsK9NU-00095-00022741-00023019 psychology over the course of this same jeAk7jsK9NU-00096-00023020-00023217 period now and began to engage with jeAk7jsK9NU-00097-00023218-00023349 social and political happenings jeAk7jsK9NU-00098-00023350-00023663 including the civil rights movement in jeAk7jsK9NU-00099-00023664-00023940 1965 he traveled to the southern United jeAk7jsK9NU-00100-00023941-00024135 States to participate in and later jeAk7jsK9NU-00101-00024136-00024318 publish an article about the Selma to jeAk7jsK9NU-00102-00024319-00024696 Montgomery marches from 1966 to 1968 jeAk7jsK9NU-00103-00024697-00024843 he was a visiting professor at the jeAk7jsK9NU-00104-00024844-00025206 University of Notre Dame from 1968 to jeAk7jsK9NU-00105-00025207-00025458 1970 he worked at the Amsterdam joint jeAk7jsK9NU-00106-00025459-00025692 pastoral Institute and taught psychology jeAk7jsK9NU-00107-00025693-00025875 and spirituality at the Catholic jeAk7jsK9NU-00108-00025876-00026177 theological University of Utrecht in jeAk7jsK9NU-00109-00026177-00026466 1971 he received his Doctor andis degree jeAk7jsK9NU-00110-00026467-00026556 in theology jeAk7jsK9NU-00111-00026557-00026877 between 1971 and 1981 now and was a jeAk7jsK9NU-00112-00026877-00027099 professor of pastoral theology at Yale jeAk7jsK9NU-00113-00027100-00027204 Divinity School jeAk7jsK9NU-00114-00027205-00027369 where he began to establish a broad jeAk7jsK9NU-00115-00027370-00027564 readership of his work as a contributor jeAk7jsK9NU-00116-00027564-00027758 to various publications including the jeAk7jsK9NU-00117-00027760-00027945 National Catholic Reporter and is the jeAk7jsK9NU-00118-00027945-00028107 author of several books based on jeAk7jsK9NU-00119-00028108-00028383 personal experience during his time at jeAk7jsK9NU-00120-00028383-00028599 Yale now and took several sabbaticals jeAk7jsK9NU-00121-00028600-00028874 some of which informed his writing in jeAk7jsK9NU-00122-00028875-00029130 1976 he was a fellow at the college jeAk7jsK9NU-00123-00029131-00029307 Ville Institute for ecumenical and jeAk7jsK9NU-00124-00029308-00029502 cultural research at st. John's Abbey jeAk7jsK9NU-00125-00029502-00029811 Collegeville Minnesota and in 1978 he jeAk7jsK9NU-00126-00029812-00029979 was scholar in residence at the jeAk7jsK9NU-00127-00029980-00030174 Pontifical North American College in jeAk7jsK9NU-00128-00030175-00030468 Rome while a professor at Yale now and jeAk7jsK9NU-00129-00030469-00030657 also spent several months at the Abbey jeAk7jsK9NU-00130-00030658-00030951 of the Genesee his first visit began on jeAk7jsK9NU-00131-00030952-00031283 June 1st 1974 and lasted seven months jeAk7jsK9NU-00132-00031285-00031524 while there he kept a journal that was jeAk7jsK9NU-00133-00031525-00031758 published as genesee diary report from a jeAk7jsK9NU-00134-00031758-00032139 Trappist monastery in 1976 he returned jeAk7jsK9NU-00135-00032139-00032408 again in 1979 after the death of his jeAk7jsK9NU-00136-00032410-00032613 mother which led to the publication of a jeAk7jsK9NU-00137-00032614-00032829 cry for mercy prayers from the Genesee jeAk7jsK9NU-00138-00032830-00033057 though Nouwen concluded he was not jeAk7jsK9NU-00139-00033058-00033252 suited for the Trappist life the abbey jeAk7jsK9NU-00140-00033253-00033444 of the Genesee and his relationship with jeAk7jsK9NU-00141-00033445-00033654 then Abbot John nude Bamberger continued jeAk7jsK9NU-00142-00033655-00033879 to be of great importance to him the jeAk7jsK9NU-00143-00033880-00034071 Abbey served as his home base for more jeAk7jsK9NU-00144-00034072-00034257 than a year after he resigned from Yale jeAk7jsK9NU-00145-00034258-00034407 and it was where he chose to celebrate jeAk7jsK9NU-00146-00034408-00034644 the 25th anniversary of his ordination jeAk7jsK9NU-00147-00034645-00034959 as a priest on August 6 1982 after jeAk7jsK9NU-00148-00034960-00035220 leaving Yale in 1981 now and took a jeAk7jsK9NU-00149-00035221-00035394 six-month trip to South America jeAk7jsK9NU-00150-00035395-00035676 visiting Bolivia and Peru upon his jeAk7jsK9NU-00151-00035677-00035901 return to the United States in 1983 jeAk7jsK9NU-00152-00035902-00036111 Nouwen was appointed at the Harvard jeAk7jsK9NU-00153-00036112-00036300 Divinity School as professor of divinity jeAk7jsK9NU-00154-00036301-00036594 and Horace de Weiland's lecturer the jeAk7jsK9NU-00155-00036595-00036786 half-time appointment allowed nowan to jeAk7jsK9NU-00156-00036787-00036957 split his time between teaching at the jeAk7jsK9NU-00157-00036958-00037107 Divinity School and working with a jeAk7jsK9NU-00158-00037108-00037407 theological Center in Latin America now jeAk7jsK9NU-00159-00037408-00037554 in taught at the school until his jeAk7jsK9NU-00160-00037555-00038070 resignation in 1985 in 1985 in 1986 jeAk7jsK9NU-00161-00038071-00038217 he spent nine months with the large jeAk7jsK9NU-00162-00038218-00038610 community in France jeAk7jsK9NU-00163-00038611-00039083 topic L'Arche jeAk7jsK9NU-00164-00039084-00039329 now in spirituality was greatly jeAk7jsK9NU-00165-00039330-00039509 influenced by his friendship with Jean jeAk7jsK9NU-00166-00039510-00039758 Vanier the two men met while nowan was jeAk7jsK9NU-00167-00039759-00039977 teaching at Harvard Vanier sensed how jeAk7jsK9NU-00168-00039978-00040181 lost Nouwen was feeling and invited him jeAk7jsK9NU-00169-00040182-00040471 to visit trois Lee Brule now in visited jeAk7jsK9NU-00170-00040472-00040670 Vanier at the french community the first jeAk7jsK9NU-00171-00040671-00040837 in the large network twice before jeAk7jsK9NU-00172-00040838-00041084 returning in 1985 for a nine-month jeAk7jsK9NU-00173-00041085-00041378 residency the stay helped now and find a jeAk7jsK9NU-00174-00041379-00041603 purpose that had been missing as Robert jeAk7jsK9NU-00175-00041604-00041855 a Jonas explains Inari had always jeAk7jsK9NU-00176-00041856-00042083 wondered what a Eucharistic Li centered jeAk7jsK9NU-00177-00042084-00042284 community would be like and now he had jeAk7jsK9NU-00178-00042285-00042608 found one at L'Arche during now ins time jeAk7jsK9NU-00179-00042609-00042818 in France he traveled to Toronto Ontario jeAk7jsK9NU-00180-00042819-00043055 to officiate at a wedding and sought jeAk7jsK9NU-00181-00043056-00043226 permission to stay for a week at large jeAk7jsK9NU-00182-00043227-00043481 daybreak in Richmond Hill while there a jeAk7jsK9NU-00183-00043482-00043667 corps member named Raymond was hit by a jeAk7jsK9NU-00184-00043668-00043952 car and left in critical condition now jeAk7jsK9NU-00185-00043953-00044159 in provided spiritual guidance to the jeAk7jsK9NU-00186-00044160-00044315 community and Raymond's family jeAk7jsK9NU-00187-00044316-00044507 ultimately helping to reconcile the jeAk7jsK9NU-00188-00044508-00044702 community in the family who partially jeAk7jsK9NU-00189-00044703-00044881 blamed daybreak for Raymond's injuries jeAk7jsK9NU-00190-00044882-00045179 now ins intervention had such an impact jeAk7jsK9NU-00191-00045180-00045362 that the daybreak members asked him to jeAk7jsK9NU-00192-00045363-00045620 serve as their pastor now an accepted jeAk7jsK9NU-00193-00045621-00045896 and moved in the fall of 1986 to large jeAk7jsK9NU-00194-00045897-00046070 daybreak where he would spend the last jeAk7jsK9NU-00195-00046071-00046334 10 years of his life while at daybreak jeAk7jsK9NU-00196-00046335-00046550 Nouwen was paired with Adam Arnett a jeAk7jsK9NU-00197-00046551-00046730 core member at large daybreak with jeAk7jsK9NU-00198-00046731-00046967 profound developmental disabilities it jeAk7jsK9NU-00199-00046968-00047240 is I not Adam who gets the main benefit jeAk7jsK9NU-00200-00047241-00047582 from our friendship now an insistent now jeAk7jsK9NU-00201-00047583-00047768 in wrote about his relationship with our jeAk7jsK9NU-00202-00047769-00047962 net in a book entitled Adam God's jeAk7jsK9NU-00203-00047963-00048298 beloved jeAk7jsK9NU-00204-00048299-00048810 topic sexuality jeAk7jsK9NU-00205-00048811-00049017 now and struggled with his sexuality jeAk7jsK9NU-00206-00049018-00049209 which may have contributed to his jeAk7jsK9NU-00207-00049210-00049440 feelings of self-doubt although this jeAk7jsK9NU-00208-00049441-00049632 struggle was known by those close to him jeAk7jsK9NU-00209-00049633-00049842 now in never publicly identified as jeAk7jsK9NU-00210-00049843-00050037 homosexual despite acknowledging the jeAk7jsK9NU-00211-00050038-00050214 matter in discussions with friends and jeAk7jsK9NU-00212-00050215-00050391 alluding to a personal struggle in his jeAk7jsK9NU-00213-00050392-00050664 private journals in his book the return jeAk7jsK9NU-00214-00050665-00050883 of the prodigal son now and describes a jeAk7jsK9NU-00215-00050884-00051069 friendship that had him under spell did jeAk7jsK9NU-00216-00051070-00051201 him no good and when it finally jeAk7jsK9NU-00217-00051202-00051380 collapsed left him in a depressive mood jeAk7jsK9NU-00218-00051382-00051566 and in search of self-esteem and jeAk7jsK9NU-00219-00051567-00051854 acceptance by others biographer Michael jeAk7jsK9NU-00220-00051855-00052050 Ford referenced these instances in the jeAk7jsK9NU-00221-00052051-00052241 biography wounded prophet which was jeAk7jsK9NU-00222-00052242-00052479 published after now ins death Ford jeAk7jsK9NU-00223-00052479-00052695 suggests that now and only became fully jeAk7jsK9NU-00224-00052696-00052845 comfortable with his sexual orientation jeAk7jsK9NU-00225-00052846-00053105 in the last few years of his life and jeAk7jsK9NU-00226-00053107-00053279 that now ins depression was caused in jeAk7jsK9NU-00227-00053280-00053451 part by the conflict between his jeAk7jsK9NU-00228-00053452-00053664 priestly vows of celibacy and the sense jeAk7jsK9NU-00229-00053665-00053844 of loneliness and longing for intimacy jeAk7jsK9NU-00230-00053845-00054051 that he experienced this took an jeAk7jsK9NU-00231-00054052-00054282 enormous emotional spiritual and jeAk7jsK9NU-00232-00054283-00054479 physical toll on his life and may have jeAk7jsK9NU-00233-00054480-00054810 contributed to his early death while his jeAk7jsK9NU-00234-00054811-00055011 struggled to reconcile his priestly vows jeAk7jsK9NU-00235-00055012-00055229 of celibacy with his human desire for jeAk7jsK9NU-00236-00055230-00055446 physical and emotional intimacy appears jeAk7jsK9NU-00237-00055447-00055604 in his writings there is no evidence jeAk7jsK9NU-00238-00055605-00055773 that Nouwen ever broke his vow of jeAk7jsK9NU-00239-00055774-00056163 celibacy jeAk7jsK9NU-00240-00056164-00056572 topic death jeAk7jsK9NU-00241-00056573-00056769 now indict in the Netherlands on jeAk7jsK9NU-00242-00056770-00057085 September 21st 1996 from a sudden heart jeAk7jsK9NU-00243-00057086-00057274 attack while enroute to Russia to jeAk7jsK9NU-00244-00057275-00057484 participate in a Dutch documentary about jeAk7jsK9NU-00245-00057485-00057680 his book the return of the prodigal son jeAk7jsK9NU-00246-00057682-00057975 now ins first funeral mass was held on jeAk7jsK9NU-00247-00057976-00058191 September 24th at st. Catherine's jeAk7jsK9NU-00248-00058192-00058372 Cathedral in Utrecht with a eulogy jeAk7jsK9NU-00249-00058373-00058605 offered by Jean Vanier after which now jeAk7jsK9NU-00250-00058607-00058825 ins body was flown to Canada for burial jeAk7jsK9NU-00251-00058826-00059071 by the large daybreak community the jeAk7jsK9NU-00252-00059072-00059244 second funeral mass was held on jeAk7jsK9NU-00253-00059245-00059487 September 28 that the Slovak Catholic jeAk7jsK9NU-00254-00059488-00059671 cathedral of the Transfiguration in jeAk7jsK9NU-00255-00059672-00059875 Markham Ontario following a full-day jeAk7jsK9NU-00256-00059876-00060103 wake at st. Mary Immaculate Catholic jeAk7jsK9NU-00257-00060104-00060351 Church in Richmond Hill on September 27 jeAk7jsK9NU-00258-00060352-00060598 now and was laid to rest in a pine jeAk7jsK9NU-00259-00060599-00060790 coffin built in large Daybreak's the jeAk7jsK9NU-00260-00060791-00060957 wood or and colorfully painted by jeAk7jsK9NU-00261-00060958-00061228 members of the community he is buried in jeAk7jsK9NU-00262-00061229-00061453 st. John's Anglican Church Cemetery in jeAk7jsK9NU-00263-00061454-00061641 Richmond Hill in keeping with his desire jeAk7jsK9NU-00264-00061642-00061828 to be near the graves of other daybreak jeAk7jsK9NU-00265-00061829-00062065 community members there is also a jeAk7jsK9NU-00266-00062066-00062238 memorial marker for now and in gay jeAk7jsK9NU-00267-00062239-00062428 strand NL at the gravesite of his jeAk7jsK9NU-00268-00062429-00062754 parents prior to his death he entrusted jeAk7jsK9NU-00269-00062755-00062962 su Mosteller with his estate making her jeAk7jsK9NU-00270-00062963-00063250 the literary executrix of his works the jeAk7jsK9NU-00271-00063251-00063480 founding of the unread JM now in jeAk7jsK9NU-00272-00063481-00063679 archives and research collection at the jeAk7jsK9NU-00273-00063679-00063942 John M Kelly library University of st. jeAk7jsK9NU-00274-00063944-00064137 Michael's College was the culmination of jeAk7jsK9NU-00275-00064138-00064332 must alert to centralise now his jeAk7jsK9NU-00276-00064333-00064587 personal records the work involved jeAk7jsK9NU-00277-00064588-00064767 organizing his material at large jeAk7jsK9NU-00278-00064769-00064956 daybreak which included personal jeAk7jsK9NU-00279-00064957-00065185 correspondence original manuscripts and jeAk7jsK9NU-00280-00065186-00065425 audio-visual material and negotiating jeAk7jsK9NU-00281-00065426-00065605 with the Yale Divinity School library jeAk7jsK9NU-00282-00065606-00065785 for the release of records now and had jeAk7jsK9NU-00283-00065786-00065943 begun depositing there as a faculty jeAk7jsK9NU-00284-00065944-00066304 member in 1975 the now and Archives jeAk7jsK9NU-00285-00066305-00066568 opened in September 2000 he has an award jeAk7jsK9NU-00286-00066569-00066732 named for him the honoree now and jeAk7jsK9NU-00287-00066733-00066894 leadership award given out by the jeAk7jsK9NU-00288-00066895-00067131 American Association on intellectual and jeAk7jsK9NU-00289-00067132-00067360 developmental disabilities religion and jeAk7jsK9NU-00290-00067361-00067630 spirituality division there is an jeAk7jsK9NU-00291-00067631-00067800 endowed lectureship in classical jeAk7jsK9NU-00292-00067801-00068007 Christian spirituality named after him jeAk7jsK9NU-00293-00068008-00068132 at Drew University jeAk7jsK9NU-00294-00068133-00068416 there is also an elementary school named jeAk7jsK9NU-00295-00068417-00069010 after him in Richmond Hill Ontario jeAk7jsK9NU-00296-00069011-00069502 topic writing jeAk7jsK9NU-00297-00069503-00069769 before his death now in published 39 jeAk7jsK9NU-00298-00069770-00069960 books and authored hundreds of articles jeAk7jsK9NU-00299-00069961-00070216 his books have sold over seven million jeAk7jsK9NU-00300-00070217-00070435 copies worldwide and have been published jeAk7jsK9NU-00301-00070436-00070732 in more than 30 languages in a magazine jeAk7jsK9NU-00302-00070733-00070954 survey conducted by Christian century in jeAk7jsK9NU-00303-00070955-00071206 2003 now ins work was indicated as a jeAk7jsK9NU-00304-00071207-00071422 first choice of authors for Catholic and jeAk7jsK9NU-00305-00071423-00071695 mainline Protestant clergy his books jeAk7jsK9NU-00306-00071696-00071878 include the wounded healer in the name jeAk7jsK9NU-00307-00071879-00071956 of Jesus jeAk7jsK9NU-00308-00071957-00072148 clowning in Rome the life of the beloved jeAk7jsK9NU-00309-00072149-00072322 and the way of the heart along with what jeAk7jsK9NU-00310-00072323-00072508 is recognized as one of his most popular jeAk7jsK9NU-00311-00072509-00072730 books the return of the prodigal son jeAk7jsK9NU-00312-00072731-00072919 while visiting the large troz liberal jeAk7jsK9NU-00313-00072920-00073135 community in France he saw a poster of jeAk7jsK9NU-00314-00073136-00073297 Rembrandt's painting the return of the jeAk7jsK9NU-00315-00073298-00073459 prodigal son that made a deep impression jeAk7jsK9NU-00316-00073460-00073741 on him he decided to see the painting jeAk7jsK9NU-00317-00073742-00073906 personally and traveled to st. jeAk7jsK9NU-00318-00073907-00074110 Petersburg Leningrad at that time to jeAk7jsK9NU-00319-00074111-00074284 visit the Hermitage Museum where it is jeAk7jsK9NU-00320-00074285-00074533 capped this resulted in a several-day jeAk7jsK9NU-00321-00074534-00074722 contemplation of the painting which jeAk7jsK9NU-00322-00074723-00074890 prompted him to write a book of the same jeAk7jsK9NU-00323-00074891-00075169 name the return of the prodigal son was jeAk7jsK9NU-00324-00075170-00075442 ranked number 66 on a list of 100 best jeAk7jsK9NU-00325-00075443-00075631 Christian books compiled by the Church jeAk7jsK9NU-00326-00075632-00076050 times in 2014 jeAk7jsK9NU-00327-00076051-00076528 topic themes jeAk7jsK9NU-00328-00076529-00076701 now and was known to suffer from jeAk7jsK9NU-00329-00076702-00076918 loneliness and a need for interpersonal jeAk7jsK9NU-00330-00076919-00077093 connection which he wrote about openly jeAk7jsK9NU-00331-00077094-00077422 his popularity as a spiritual guide has jeAk7jsK9NU-00332-00077423-00077619 been linked to his capacity to describe jeAk7jsK9NU-00333-00077620-00077797 his personal struggles in a relatable jeAk7jsK9NU-00334-00077798-00078061 manner he credited his approach to an jeAk7jsK9NU-00335-00078062-00078262 interest in the daily life of people and jeAk7jsK9NU-00336-00078263-00078459 his own journey with Christian life I jeAk7jsK9NU-00337-00078460-00078657 wanted to know how we could integrate jeAk7jsK9NU-00338-00078658-00078876 the life of Christ in our daily concerns jeAk7jsK9NU-00339-00078877-00079162 I was always trying to articulate what I jeAk7jsK9NU-00340-00079163-00079350 was dealing with I thought that if it jeAk7jsK9NU-00341-00079351-00079567 was very deep it might also be something jeAk7jsK9NU-00342-00079568-00079806 other people were struggling with it was jeAk7jsK9NU-00343-00079807-00079974 based on the idea that what his most jeAk7jsK9NU-00344-00079975-00080284 personal might be the more universal one jeAk7jsK9NU-00345-00080285-00080443 of knowings major ongoing themes jeAk7jsK9NU-00346-00080444-00080643 involved his struggle reconciling his jeAk7jsK9NU-00347-00080644-00080890 depression with his Christian faith his jeAk7jsK9NU-00348-00080891-00081097 most famous work on this topic is the jeAk7jsK9NU-00349-00081098-00081280 inner voice of love his diary from jeAk7jsK9NU-00350-00081281-00081640 December 1987 to June 1988 during one of jeAk7jsK9NU-00351-00081641-00081825 his most serious bouts with clinical jeAk7jsK9NU-00352-00081826-00082096 depression now and also explored this jeAk7jsK9NU-00353-00082097-00082279 theme in return of the prodigal son jeAk7jsK9NU-00354-00082280-00082465 describing love and forgiveness as jeAk7jsK9NU-00355-00082466-00082749 unconditional in the book he invites the jeAk7jsK9NU-00356-00082750-00082918 reader to follow him in his personal jeAk7jsK9NU-00357-00082919-00083125 return to the spiritual fountains and in jeAk7jsK9NU-00358-00083126-00083299 a parallel meditation on all the jeAk7jsK9NU-00359-00083300-00083449 characters of the parable they're jeAk7jsK9NU-00360-00083450-00083629 rendering by Rembrandt and the painters jeAk7jsK9NU-00361-00083630-00083941 personal life now and also wrote several jeAk7jsK9NU-00362-00083942-00084154 essays on the necessity of peacemaking jeAk7jsK9NU-00363-00084155-00084379 he used God's love as a justification jeAk7jsK9NU-00364-00084380-00084622 for the preservation of life as well as jeAk7jsK9NU-00365-00084623-00084811 for his opposition to both the ongoing jeAk7jsK9NU-00366-00084812-00084979 Cold War and the intervention of the jeAk7jsK9NU-00367-00084980-00085261 United States in Vietnam this was of a jeAk7jsK9NU-00368-00085262-00085435 peace with his conviction of the oneness jeAk7jsK9NU-00369-00085436-00085759 of all peoples under God to pray that is jeAk7jsK9NU-00370-00085760-00085921 to listen to the voice of the one who jeAk7jsK9NU-00371-00085922-00086193 calls us the beloved is to learn that jeAk7jsK9NU-00372-00086194-00086434 that voice excludes no one where I dwell jeAk7jsK9NU-00373-00086435-00086662 God dwells with me and where God dwells jeAk7jsK9NU-00374-00086663-00086838 with me I find all my sisters and jeAk7jsK9NU-00375-00086839-00087121 brothers and so intimacy with God and jeAk7jsK9NU-00376-00087122-00087306 solidarity with all people are two jeAk7jsK9NU-00377-00087307-00087480 aspects of dwelling in the present jeAk7jsK9NU-00378-00087481-00087938 moment that can never be separated jeAk7jsK9NU-00379-00087939-00088471 topic public speaking jeAk7jsK9NU-00380-00088472-00088737 now in was a frequent public speaker in jeAk7jsK9NU-00381-00088738-00088880 addition to his teaching jeAk7jsK9NU-00382-00088881-00089067 responsibilities he traveled extensively jeAk7jsK9NU-00383-00089068-00089367 leading retreats and sermons with a jeAk7jsK9NU-00384-00089368-00089590 distinct accent and animated speaking jeAk7jsK9NU-00385-00089591-00089793 style now and was known for his engaging jeAk7jsK9NU-00386-00089794-00089985 and expressive style of communication jeAk7jsK9NU-00387-00089986-00090274 the experience of seeing him preach has jeAk7jsK9NU-00388-00090275-00090444 been compared to being at the theatre or jeAk7jsK9NU-00389-00090445-00090717 seeing a musical conductor at work it jeAk7jsK9NU-00390-00090718-00090880 was not uncommon for now and to jeAk7jsK9NU-00391-00090881-00091086 enthusiastically jump around or wave his jeAk7jsK9NU-00392-00091087-00091287 arms and hands during speaking events jeAk7jsK9NU-00393-00091288-00091563 and classroom lectures Bob Massey jeAk7jsK9NU-00394-00091564-00091774 describes the experience of watching now jeAk7jsK9NU-00395-00091775-00092047 and speak and befriend a life 2001 his jeAk7jsK9NU-00396-00092048-00092242 squeezing tugging gestures made it look jeAk7jsK9NU-00397-00092243-00092398 like he was striving to milk meaning jeAk7jsK9NU-00398-00092399-00092631 directly out of the air he would point jeAk7jsK9NU-00399-00092632-00092838 his fingers down and rotate his wrists jeAk7jsK9NU-00400-00092839-00092994 his through trying to stir a separate jeAk7jsK9NU-00401-00092995-00093174 little pot with each digit now an jeAk7jsK9NU-00402-00093175-00093336 appealed to many audiences including jeAk7jsK9NU-00403-00093337-00093582 Anglicans and evangelicals because of jeAk7jsK9NU-00404-00093583-00093951 his Jesus centered spirituality in 1992 jeAk7jsK9NU-00405-00093952-00094188 he was invited by Robert H Schuler to jeAk7jsK9NU-00406-00094189-00094372 preach an hour of power at the Crystal jeAk7jsK9NU-00407-00094373-00094684 Cathedral in Garden Grove California now jeAk7jsK9NU-00408-00094685-00094842 and appeared over three consecutive jeAk7jsK9NU-00409-00094843-00095049 Sundays and preached on the topic of jeAk7jsK9NU-00410-00095050-00095278 beloved Ness recordings of his jeAk7jsK9NU-00411-00095279-00095485 appearance were later used by Schuler as jeAk7jsK9NU-00412-00095486-00095661 a model for preaching when instructing jeAk7jsK9NU-00413-00095662-00095967 new ministers topic prizes Thomas Merton jeAk7jsK9NU-00414-00095968-00096255 award 1985 Ronald McDonald House jeAk7jsK9NU-00415-00096256-00096531 Charities Award of Excellence 1996 jeAk7jsK9NU-00416-00096532-00096853 Emmaus Prize in 2002 topic bibliography jeAk7jsK9NU-00417-00096854-00097060 topic works about now in topic books jeAk7jsK9NU-00418-00097061-00097386 Benson Johnathan Earnshaw Gabrielle EDS jeAk7jsK9NU-00419-00097387-00097765 2006 turning the wheel on riemann and jeAk7jsK9NU-00420-00097766-00098017 our search for god Maryknoll and why jeAk7jsK9NU-00422-00101567-00101781 billion three hundred ten million two jeAk7jsK9NU-00423-00101782-00101832 hundred jeAk7jsK9NU-00424-00101833-00102024 twenty four thousand six hundred twenty jeAk7jsK9NU-00425-00102025-00102483 four Ford Michael 1999 wounded prophet a jeAk7jsK9NU-00426-00102484-00102799 portrait of unread JM nowan New York jeAk7jsK9NU-00427-00102800-00103092 doubleday ISBN nine trillion seven jeAk7jsK9NU-00428-00103093-00103233 hundred eighty billion three hundred jeAk7jsK9NU-00429-00103234-00103479 eighty-five million four hundred ninety jeAk7jsK9NU-00430-00103480-00103648 three thousand seven hundred twenty jeAk7jsK9NU-00431-00103649-00104101 seven Hernandez will 2006 on renewing a jeAk7jsK9NU-00432-00104102-00104376 spirituality of imperfection New York jeAk7jsK9NU-00433-00104377-00104715 Paulist press ISBN nine trillion seven jeAk7jsK9NU-00434-00104716-00104848 hundred eighty billion eight hundred jeAk7jsK9NU-00435-00104849-00105060 nine million one hundred forty-four jeAk7jsK9NU-00436-00105061-00105366 thousand three hundred forty-one higgins jeAk7jsK9NU-00437-00105367-00105781 michael w burns kevin 2012 genius born jeAk7jsK9NU-00438-00105782-00105958 of anguish the life and legacy of jeAk7jsK9NU-00439-00105958-00106283 honoree 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jfsUmYTeARU-00017-00004121-00004336 that we have for you today jfsUmYTeARU-00018-00004337-00004577 um today we are going to be discussing jfsUmYTeARU-00019-00004578-00004877 the effects of local coaches uh jfsUmYTeARU-00020-00004878-00005075 on International tournaments let's say jfsUmYTeARU-00021-00005076-00005236 it's South Africa having a South African jfsUmYTeARU-00022-00005237-00005465 coach Morocco having a Moroccan coach jfsUmYTeARU-00023-00005466-00005806 how that's whole setup of countries jfsUmYTeARU-00024-00005807-00006088 hiring their own citizens as coaches has jfsUmYTeARU-00025-00006089-00006329 affected the results and the performance jfsUmYTeARU-00026-00006330-00006634 of their particular national teams on jfsUmYTeARU-00027-00006636-00006796 major tournaments we're looking to look jfsUmYTeARU-00028-00006797-00007001 mostly at the World Cup jfsUmYTeARU-00029-00007002-00007145 um I think we can say a little bit on jfsUmYTeARU-00030-00007145-00007433 afcon as well and you know yes it is jfsUmYTeARU-00031-00007434-00007625 comfortable right so tell me what's your jfsUmYTeARU-00032-00007626-00007925 sentiment what's your take on this uh I jfsUmYTeARU-00033-00007926-00008237 think hiring local coaches is jfsUmYTeARU-00034-00008238-00008513 the positive move by by most emotions jfsUmYTeARU-00035-00008514-00008795 because teams with the local coaches jfsUmYTeARU-00036-00008796-00009089 have been succeeding more from them he jfsUmYTeARU-00037-00009090-00009281 based on what has happened on the last jfsUmYTeARU-00038-00009282-00009563 10 years all major tournaments like the jfsUmYTeARU-00039-00009564-00009856 World Cup have called the Euros in the jfsUmYTeARU-00040-00009857-00010091 Copa America so you think basically it's jfsUmYTeARU-00041-00010092-00010289 a good move you would encourage every jfsUmYTeARU-00042-00010290-00010510 country to that wants to do well to get jfsUmYTeARU-00043-00010511-00010853 a local culture citizen to perform all jfsUmYTeARU-00044-00010854-00011027 right why is that sort of do you have jfsUmYTeARU-00045-00011028-00011333 anything backing that up yeah uh it jfsUmYTeARU-00046-00011334-00011663 based on the performance they let us say jfsUmYTeARU-00047-00011664-00012053 10 years from from today in 2014 World jfsUmYTeARU-00048-00012054-00012151 Cup jfsUmYTeARU-00049-00012152-00012401 they were dead two teams as you know 18 jfsUmYTeARU-00050-00012402-00012646 teams they said the local coaches in the jfsUmYTeARU-00051-00012647-00012827 same friend at this stage local coaches jfsUmYTeARU-00052-00012828-00013091 or eight all four of them yes so you jfsUmYTeARU-00053-00013091-00013283 mean that those that generally had local jfsUmYTeARU-00054-00013284-00013558 coaches did better in 2014 and those jfsUmYTeARU-00055-00013559-00013757 started for expatriates if that that's jfsUmYTeARU-00056-00013758-00013966 what I'm saying okay um is that just a jfsUmYTeARU-00057-00013968-00014185 one-off jfsUmYTeARU-00058-00014186-00014411 for four years later there was an jfsUmYTeARU-00059-00014412-00014722 improvement 19 of them one more yeah the jfsUmYTeARU-00060-00014723-00014999 local coaches and the quarter finalist jfsUmYTeARU-00061-00015000-00015558 which means the last eight of them jfsUmYTeARU-00062-00015559-00015857 okay okay that sounds interesting that jfsUmYTeARU-00063-00015858-00015994 sounds interesting what about this world jfsUmYTeARU-00064-00015995-00016415 cup how is it uh on this world cup the jfsUmYTeARU-00065-00016416-00016649 it seems it keeps on improving really he jfsUmYTeARU-00066-00016650-00016894 made one another world cup we see all of jfsUmYTeARU-00067-00016895-00016961 them jfsUmYTeARU-00068-00016962-00017165 interesting interesting because because jfsUmYTeARU-00069-00017166-00017489 of this World Cup he is 21 of them don't jfsUmYTeARU-00070-00017490-00017800 one of the 32 nations in Qatar jfsUmYTeARU-00071-00017801-00018130 the local coaches you see and as we are jfsUmYTeARU-00072-00018131-00018343 going to to the last 16 jfsUmYTeARU-00073-00018344-00018617 today is the last day I want to go jfsUmYTeARU-00074-00018618-00018691 upstairs jfsUmYTeARU-00075-00018692-00019072 if 14 of them 14 of the qualified jfsUmYTeARU-00076-00019073-00019272 Nations jfsUmYTeARU-00077-00019273-00019564 so two slots are open yeah yeah two two jfsUmYTeARU-00078-00019565-00019769 spots are open so we'll see today jfsUmYTeARU-00079-00019770-00020050 whether we have 16 Nations typical jfsUmYTeARU-00080-00020051-00020236 coaches or not wow it seems like this is jfsUmYTeARU-00081-00020237-00020543 a trend Safa please get us a local Coach jfsUmYTeARU-00082-00020544-00020836 maybe pizza or baby I don't know jfsUmYTeARU-00083-00020837-00020957 um so jfsUmYTeARU-00084-00020958-00021179 why why do you think this is the case jfsUmYTeARU-00085-00021180-00021425 why what could be the cause of this jfsUmYTeARU-00086-00021426-00021593 success then that comes from having jfsUmYTeARU-00087-00021594-00021736 local cultures what do you think are the jfsUmYTeARU-00088-00021737-00022067 drivers behind this uh I think it's jfsUmYTeARU-00089-00022068-00022439 patriotism and commitment is jfsUmYTeARU-00090-00022440-00022961 if you're coaching your own Nation jfsUmYTeARU-00091-00022962-00023303 I remember at one stage England I was jfsUmYTeARU-00092-00023304-00023761 playing in Fabio Capello who was decided jfsUmYTeARU-00093-00023762-00024119 and maybe it did not know it may be fake jfsUmYTeARU-00094-00024120-00024478 like no I can't seems jfsUmYTeARU-00095-00024479-00025003 also if you lose badly your neighbors jfsUmYTeARU-00096-00025004-00025235 yeah I know I get it I get it so the jfsUmYTeARU-00097-00025236-00025421 patriotism you're passionate about this jfsUmYTeARU-00098-00025422-00025643 thing so you bring everything exactly jfsUmYTeARU-00099-00025644-00025937 yeah yeah but okay it's just particulars jfsUmYTeARU-00100-00025938-00026243 and things patience uh I think it is jfsUmYTeARU-00101-00026244-00026662 identity also because if you are Dutch jfsUmYTeARU-00102-00026663-00027017 like this one girl like facility like jfsUmYTeARU-00103-00027018-00027299 guys like sticker to forget the guy is jfsUmYTeARU-00104-00027300-00027652 like in those Dutch coaches they know jfsUmYTeARU-00105-00027654-00028090 how the Dutch play okay so so it's much jfsUmYTeARU-00106-00028091-00028373 much easier for for them when they get jfsUmYTeARU-00107-00028374-00028583 there they they just apply the national jfsUmYTeARU-00108-00028583-00028811 team philosophy all right when it comes jfsUmYTeARU-00109-00028812-00029074 to Spain again another example Spain jfsUmYTeARU-00110-00029075-00029239 please jfsUmYTeARU-00111-00029239-00029645 in the ways Spanish also Spanish things jfsUmYTeARU-00112-00029645-00029968 okay all right I see so identity jfsUmYTeARU-00113-00029969-00030124 commitment jfsUmYTeARU-00114-00030125-00030190 um jfsUmYTeARU-00115-00030191-00030383 I would also think there is an issue of jfsUmYTeARU-00116-00030383-00030545 you having to understand each other jfsUmYTeARU-00117-00030545-00030761 better like language barrier there is no jfsUmYTeARU-00118-00030762-00030923 language barrier we all speak basically jfsUmYTeARU-00119-00030924-00031067 the same language if you're a German jfsUmYTeARU-00120-00031068-00031231 hospital jfsUmYTeARU-00121-00031232-00031564 but in Africa maybe that may not be so jfsUmYTeARU-00122-00031566-00031877 yeah yeah in Africa it may not be sorry jfsUmYTeARU-00123-00031877-00032057 because there are many many languages in jfsUmYTeARU-00124-00032058-00032314 Africa but usually there is that one jfsUmYTeARU-00125-00032316-00032573 language that unites everyone like in jfsUmYTeARU-00126-00032574-00033446 South Africa is jfsUmYTeARU-00127-00033447-00035467 [Music] jfsUmYTeARU-00128-00035468-00035801 so so in Africa the train hasn't been jfsUmYTeARU-00129-00035802-00036155 much but but there is now that but it's jfsUmYTeARU-00130-00036156-00036509 also in 2019 again Algeria one on the jfsUmYTeARU-00131-00036510-00036702 coach jfsUmYTeARU-00132-00036703-00037187 okay Algerian sorry also I saw Africa jfsUmYTeARU-00133-00037188-00037390 has adopted the five of the year is it jfsUmYTeARU-00134-00037391-00037589 five of the World Cup qualified jfsUmYTeARU-00135-00037590-00037746 countries jfsUmYTeARU-00136-00037747-00037996 local coaches that's true and they're jfsUmYTeARU-00137-00037997-00038261 doing well yeah yeah yeah yeah they are jfsUmYTeARU-00138-00038262-00038524 they are punching up yeah jfsUmYTeARU-00139-00038525-00038873 you guys okay okay I see so that makes jfsUmYTeARU-00140-00038874-00038962 sense jfsUmYTeARU-00141-00038963-00039209 um but it does because you then if you jfsUmYTeARU-00142-00039210-00039443 if I'm from South Africa I understand jfsUmYTeARU-00143-00039444-00039689 how my players think I understand the jfsUmYTeARU-00144-00039690-00039874 culture in which they were raised in I jfsUmYTeARU-00145-00039875-00040102 understand yeah nah I think that makes jfsUmYTeARU-00146-00040103-00040185 sense jfsUmYTeARU-00147-00040186-00040235 [Music] jfsUmYTeARU-00148-00040236-00040343 um jfsUmYTeARU-00149-00040344-00040505 what other factors do you think are jfsUmYTeARU-00150-00040506-00040643 driving this jfsUmYTeARU-00151-00040644-00040902 is it just useful jfsUmYTeARU-00152-00040903-00041152 uh I think it's jfsUmYTeARU-00153-00041153-00041459 the role model effect it comes into jfsUmYTeARU-00154-00041460-00041680 effect maybe because there is a guy like jfsUmYTeARU-00155-00041681-00041801 this is jfsUmYTeARU-00156-00041802-00042155 is a captain clinical to the office I've jfsUmYTeARU-00157-00042156-00042377 confined and Captain physical the first jfsUmYTeARU-00158-00042378-00042611 World Cup then there's a guy like her jfsUmYTeARU-00159-00042612-00042935 copy so and so on Captain Cameroon to jfsUmYTeARU-00160-00042936-00043139 African Glory keeping the camera to jfsUmYTeARU-00161-00043140-00043474 World Cup guys that that storms jfsUmYTeARU-00162-00043475-00043699 all right and then some of those of them jfsUmYTeARU-00163-00043700-00044002 exactly these terms was the captain in jfsUmYTeARU-00164-00044003-00044302 France ones and now he was the coach jfsUmYTeARU-00165-00044303-00044579 when they won so so it's much much jfsUmYTeARU-00166-00044580-00044830 easier for them to to motivate the jfsUmYTeARU-00167-00044831-00045095 players because some of them is their jfsUmYTeARU-00168-00045096-00045335 role models okay all right I get it so jfsUmYTeARU-00169-00045336-00045455 they've got better control of the jfsUmYTeARU-00170-00045456-00045529 address jfsUmYTeARU-00171-00045530-00045857 yeah all right but then is it all jfsUmYTeARU-00172-00045858-00046174 beautiful when you have a knockout are jfsUmYTeARU-00173-00046175-00046423 they no disadvantages jfsUmYTeARU-00174-00046424-00046696 they are negatives they are negatives jfsUmYTeARU-00175-00046697-00046930 but before I go there let me just go jfsUmYTeARU-00176-00046931-00047129 through the U-Hauls jfsUmYTeARU-00177-00047130-00047518 gurus in in 2012 jfsUmYTeARU-00178-00047519-00047830 there were 16 teams all right and 13 of jfsUmYTeARU-00179-00047831-00048107 them at local coaches jfsUmYTeARU-00180-00048108-00048402 to say it's openly loud yeah yeah jfsUmYTeARU-00181-00048403-00048755 European coaches basically trust their jfsUmYTeARU-00182-00048756-00049033 own more than our African coaches okay jfsUmYTeARU-00183-00049034-00049390 then then when they went to the next jfsUmYTeARU-00184-00049391-00049939 round seven of them jfsUmYTeARU-00185-00049940-00050230 when they got to the semi-finals all of jfsUmYTeARU-00186-00050231-00050405 them jfsUmYTeARU-00187-00050406-00050705 that was 2012. then when it comes to jfsUmYTeARU-00188-00050706-00051083 2016 which was won by Portugal they were jfsUmYTeARU-00189-00051084-00051364 20 teams there then 20 of them with jfsUmYTeARU-00190-00051365-00051652 local coaches the 14 of them in the jfsUmYTeARU-00191-00051653-00051970 second round local coaches then when it jfsUmYTeARU-00192-00051971-00052235 came to the to the quarter finals all of jfsUmYTeARU-00193-00052236-00054763 them jfsUmYTeARU-00194-00054764-00055007 teams with local coaches tend to do jfsUmYTeARU-00195-00055008-00055211 better exactly exactly jfsUmYTeARU-00196-00055212-00055385 so we're talking about the disadvantages jfsUmYTeARU-00197-00055386-00055529 now what what do you think would be the jfsUmYTeARU-00198-00055529-00055709 disadvantages to any or it's just jfsUmYTeARU-00199-00055710-00055919 beautiful uh I think they are the jfsUmYTeARU-00200-00055920-00056194 disadvantages because sometimes our jfsUmYTeARU-00201-00056195-00056394 local codes jfsUmYTeARU-00202-00056395-00056771 okay this is something to say okay we jfsUmYTeARU-00203-00056772-00056987 are we are playing this kind of we've jfsUmYTeARU-00204-00056988-00057166 got this kind of national employee jfsUmYTeARU-00205-00057167-00057388 philosophy so we are not going to to jfsUmYTeARU-00206-00057389-00057635 adapt something from from somewhere else jfsUmYTeARU-00207-00057636-00058103 so so also in that kind of thinking can jfsUmYTeARU-00208-00058104-00058438 limit your profession okay summarize jfsUmYTeARU-00209-00058439-00058666 yeah because you then become like an app jfsUmYTeARU-00210-00058667-00058788 you're in a box jfsUmYTeARU-00211-00058789-00059026 the world becomes the books that you are jfsUmYTeARU-00212-00059027-00059453 in now I get it I get it all right then jfsUmYTeARU-00213-00059454-00059776 he comes to corruption yeah I know that jfsUmYTeARU-00214-00059777-00060004 you say it yeah yeah yeah I don't know jfsUmYTeARU-00215-00060005-00060209 why I didn't think of that when it comes jfsUmYTeARU-00216-00060210-00060497 to the corruption in Africa there were jfsUmYTeARU-00217-00060498-00060826 accusations that that Kelly and Barbie jfsUmYTeARU-00218-00060827-00061103 instead wanted to play for Cameroon but jfsUmYTeARU-00219-00061104-00063259 someone else jfsUmYTeARU-00220-00063260-00063479 that came up jfsUmYTeARU-00221-00063479-00063832 so so corruption in Africa and sometimes jfsUmYTeARU-00222-00063833-00064138 the selection is based on on tribe jfsUmYTeARU-00223-00064139-00064403 sometimes but yeah sometimes there is jfsUmYTeARU-00224-00064404-00064613 Bridge analysis and sometimes what jfsUmYTeARU-00225-00064614-00064787 happens is that jfsUmYTeARU-00226-00064788-00064961 um in some national team cockroaches jfsUmYTeARU-00227-00064962-00065350 tend to select players from from other jfsUmYTeARU-00228-00065351-00065591 teams more oh yeah so if you're playing jfsUmYTeARU-00229-00065592-00065759 along the Pirates you're likely to go to jfsUmYTeARU-00230-00065760-00065926 the national team then if you're playing jfsUmYTeARU-00231-00065927-00066221 for Sundowns for example so something jfsUmYTeARU-00232-00066222-00066532 like that and and and one thing that can jfsUmYTeARU-00233-00066533-00066832 be of disadvantage is lack of a big jfsUmYTeARU-00234-00066833-00067199 tournament uh experience yeah experience jfsUmYTeARU-00235-00067200-00068917 because a guy like that but he has never jfsUmYTeARU-00236-00068918-00069167 you may think that okay you're getting jfsUmYTeARU-00237-00069168-00069406 these terms who played in the final is jfsUmYTeARU-00238-00069407-00069641 better making that he getting things jfsUmYTeARU-00239-00069642-00069929 done is better okay even if you're in jfsUmYTeARU-00240-00069930-00070163 African country yeah yeah all right all jfsUmYTeARU-00241-00070164-00070331 right but I think we can counter this jfsUmYTeARU-00242-00070332-00070505 kind of things by let's say having our jfsUmYTeARU-00243-00070506-00070685 coaches going to train out there so that jfsUmYTeARU-00244-00070686-00070931 they can Master the trends and we're at jfsUmYTeARU-00245-00070932-00071087 least trying to choose some Fair coaches jfsUmYTeARU-00246-00071088-00071194 or maybe trying to have a better jfsUmYTeARU-00247-00071195-00071465 selection player selection process but I jfsUmYTeARU-00248-00071466-00071585 don't know we can jfsUmYTeARU-00249-00071586-00071926 yeah uh uh I think basically for what jfsUmYTeARU-00250-00071927-00072275 African Indonesia is able to do is to jfsUmYTeARU-00251-00072276-00072665 so what African nations have to do is to jfsUmYTeARU-00252-00072666-00072947 select a coach um jfsUmYTeARU-00253-00072948-00073199 who is competent this is Select someone jfsUmYTeARU-00254-00073200-00073450 who knows your culture is someone who jfsUmYTeARU-00255-00073451-00073738 knows your weaknesses someone who knows jfsUmYTeARU-00256-00073739-00073955 how your background who knows how to jfsUmYTeARU-00257-00073956-00074099 motivate you jfsUmYTeARU-00258-00074100-00074344 you see so if you are to select a jfsUmYTeARU-00259-00074345-00074555 European Court here in South Africa jfsUmYTeARU-00260-00074556-00074897 letting some Let It Be Someone like for jfsUmYTeARU-00261-00074898-00075163 example delete gratitude jfsUmYTeARU-00262-00075164-00075371 understood South African footballers jfsUmYTeARU-00263-00075372-00075676 because he had spent a lot of time here jfsUmYTeARU-00264-00075677-00076129 there is a guy like jfsUmYTeARU-00265-00076130-00076462 all right yes right now he is busy jfsUmYTeARU-00266-00076463-00076667 because he understands South African jfsUmYTeARU-00267-00076668-00076871 football it's not like he was just jfsUmYTeARU-00268-00076872-00077225 getting someone will come there like jfsUmYTeARU-00269-00077226-00077465 Pereira for example he came and he was jfsUmYTeARU-00270-00077466-00077694 like these players are not seriously jfsUmYTeARU-00271-00077695-00077926 but in this case I get seriously they're jfsUmYTeARU-00272-00077927-00078179 just different you cannot say these guys jfsUmYTeARU-00273-00078180-00078509 because it's their nature yeah so so jfsUmYTeARU-00274-00078510-00078797 it's like you can take a sip and watch jfsUmYTeARU-00275-00078798-00079126 and put him on Friday we still work so jfsUmYTeARU-00276-00079127-00079361 he will see them tripping around and say jfsUmYTeARU-00277-00079362-00079565 hi you're wasting all the time yeah yeah jfsUmYTeARU-00278-00079566-00079829 okay all right I also think our coaches jfsUmYTeARU-00279-00079830-00080081 needs to be hungry too to adapt to going jfsUmYTeARU-00280-00080082-00080243 bread with these things so that when jfsUmYTeARU-00281-00080244-00080417 you're selected you can also you're not jfsUmYTeARU-00282-00080418-00080650 quoted unawareness by some tactics yes jfsUmYTeARU-00283-00080651-00080794 because you have been developing jfsUmYTeARU-00284-00080795-00080999 yourself yeah um is there anything else jfsUmYTeARU-00285-00081000-00081209 you want to say before I just miss us jfsUmYTeARU-00286-00081210-00081400 because if we cook for too long it will jfsUmYTeARU-00287-00081401-00081894 be too ripe and it won't be nice jfsUmYTeARU-00288-00081895-00082229 if the trust the local coach is more jfsUmYTeARU-00289-00082230-00082499 because we've seen a guy like pizza jfsUmYTeARU-00290-00082500-00082756 piece of this money is proven it Beyond jfsUmYTeARU-00291-00082757-00083050 doubt that is capable and when it comes jfsUmYTeARU-00292-00083051-00083315 to local courses I urge them to to if jfsUmYTeARU-00293-00083316-00083561 the chance comes go jfsUmYTeARU-00294-00083562-00083887 if the chance comes cooperated jfsUmYTeARU-00295-00083888-00084191 because if you if you are capable there jfsUmYTeARU-00296-00084192-00084412 is nothing that can can stop you exactly jfsUmYTeARU-00297-00084413-00084593 all right ladies and Gentlemen please do jfsUmYTeARU-00298-00084594-00084809 not forget to subscribe jfsUmYTeARU-00299-00084810-00084953 um do not forget to follow us on 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jhMgE7S68vE-00009-00003311-00003663 between 1930 and 1934 the ss morrow jhMgE7S68vE-00010-00003664-00003927 castle acted as a high-class passenger jhMgE7S68vE-00011-00003928-00004183 line between cuba and new york city jhMgE7S68vE-00012-00004184-00004399 attracting a steady clientele even jhMgE7S68vE-00013-00004400-00004599 during the great depression due to the jhMgE7S68vE-00014-00004600-00004847 fact that its wealthy passengers could jhMgE7S68vE-00015-00004848-00005047 legally avoid the prohibition at the jhMgE7S68vE-00016-00005048-00005127 time jhMgE7S68vE-00017-00005128-00005359 gambling and drinking alcohol on a jhMgE7S68vE-00018-00005360-00005631 non-stop party all the way to cuba and jhMgE7S68vE-00019-00005632-00005743 back jhMgE7S68vE-00020-00005744-00005951 the ship at a clean service record jhMgE7S68vE-00021-00005952-00006191 offered high-end luxury accommodations jhMgE7S68vE-00022-00006192-00006422 was fast being able to make the trip in jhMgE7S68vE-00023-00006423-00006719 under 58 hours and was a steady draw for jhMgE7S68vE-00024-00006720-00006942 american and cuban businessmen and jhMgE7S68vE-00025-00006943-00007255 tourists of all ages alike yet all of jhMgE7S68vE-00026-00007256-00007431 this was about to change jhMgE7S68vE-00027-00007431-00007703 and the opulent ss morrow castle was jhMgE7S68vE-00028-00007704-00008159 going to become a great maritime mystery jhMgE7S68vE-00029-00008159-00008423 i'm darren marlar and this jhMgE7S68vE-00030-00008424-00009391 is weird darkness jhMgE7S68vE-00031-00009392-00009655 welcome weirdos i'm darren marlar and jhMgE7S68vE-00032-00009656-00009895 this is weird darkness jhMgE7S68vE-00033-00009896-00010031 here you'll find stories of the jhMgE7S68vE-00034-00010032-00010151 paranormal jhMgE7S68vE-00035-00010152-00010374 supernatural legends jhMgE7S68vE-00036-00010375-00010487 lore jhMgE7S68vE-00037-00010488-00010583 crime jhMgE7S68vE-00038-00010584-00010919 conspiracy mysterious macabre jhMgE7S68vE-00039-00010920-00011214 unsolved and unexplained jhMgE7S68vE-00040-00011215-00011431 if you're new here welcome to the show jhMgE7S68vE-00041-00011432-00011583 and if you're already a member of this jhMgE7S68vE-00042-00011584-00011846 weirdo family please take a moment and jhMgE7S68vE-00043-00011847-00012038 invite someone else to listen jhMgE7S68vE-00044-00012039-00012231 recommending weird darkness to others jhMgE7S68vE-00045-00012232-00012406 helps make it possible for me to keep jhMgE7S68vE-00046-00012407-00012527 doing the show jhMgE7S68vE-00047-00012528-00012695 and while you're listening be sure to jhMgE7S68vE-00048-00012696-00012886 check out weirddarkness.com where you jhMgE7S68vE-00049-00012887-00013094 can find me on facebook twitter jhMgE7S68vE-00050-00013095-00013319 instagram and more jhMgE7S68vE-00051-00013319-00013663 coming up in this episode jhMgE7S68vE-00052-00013663-00013903 imagine getting onto a plane and once in jhMgE7S68vE-00053-00013904-00014127 the air finding out that the pilot jhMgE7S68vE-00054-00014128-00014383 wasn't qualified to fly that kind of jhMgE7S68vE-00055-00014384-00014615 plane and that he was only there because jhMgE7S68vE-00056-00014616-00014894 the original pilot wasn't available due jhMgE7S68vE-00057-00014895-00015079 to being dead jhMgE7S68vE-00058-00015080-00015358 that's what happened in 1934 on the boat jhMgE7S68vE-00059-00015359-00015607 the ss morrow castle and it was the jhMgE7S68vE-00060-00015608-00016086 beginning of tragedy after tragedy jhMgE7S68vE-00061-00016087-00016335 jeannie saffin already had a tough life jhMgE7S68vE-00062-00016336-00016527 being born with a birth defect that jhMgE7S68vE-00063-00016528-00016743 stunted her mental growth leaving her jhMgE7S68vE-00064-00016744-00016950 with the mind for child never getting jhMgE7S68vE-00065-00016951-00017239 married and having kids never dating but jhMgE7S68vE-00066-00017240-00017519 that all pales in comparison to how she jhMgE7S68vE-00067-00017520-00017622 died jhMgE7S68vE-00068-00017623-00017871 bursting into flames for no apparent jhMgE7S68vE-00069-00017872-00017983 reason jhMgE7S68vE-00070-00017984-00018191 was jeannie saffin the victim of jhMgE7S68vE-00071-00018192-00018599 spontaneous human combustion jhMgE7S68vE-00072-00018600-00018791 sometimes it's easy to get a girl to go jhMgE7S68vE-00073-00018792-00019094 out with you just be polite and ask jhMgE7S68vE-00074-00019095-00019335 some men resort to cheesy pickup lines jhMgE7S68vE-00075-00019336-00019543 thinking it will help their chances jhMgE7S68vE-00076-00019544-00019767 but one man chose to call upon a woman jhMgE7S68vE-00077-00019768-00019975 in a very unusual way jhMgE7S68vE-00078-00019976-00020422 by purchasing a gravestone jhMgE7S68vE-00079-00020423-00020655 if a man demands his girlfriend gave up jhMgE7S68vE-00080-00020656-00020863 the baby they conceived otherwise he jhMgE7S68vE-00081-00020864-00021094 would no longer be with the woman what jhMgE7S68vE-00082-00021095-00021358 is that newborn's mother to do jhMgE7S68vE-00083-00021359-00021711 sadly emily dunn made the wrong decision jhMgE7S68vE-00084-00021712-00022150 with tragic results jhMgE7S68vE-00085-00022151-00022350 the transplanting of an organ is almost jhMgE7S68vE-00086-00022351-00022558 a routine procedure now in the 21st jhMgE7S68vE-00087-00022559-00022655 century jhMgE7S68vE-00088-00022656-00022878 even doing a transplant of an arm or a jhMgE7S68vE-00089-00022879-00023063 leg isn't uncommon jhMgE7S68vE-00090-00023064-00023278 but when you talk about transplanting a jhMgE7S68vE-00091-00023279-00023542 living head onto a dead body jhMgE7S68vE-00092-00023543-00023742 that's where things get tricky jhMgE7S68vE-00093-00023743-00023935 but robert white thought it could be jhMgE7S68vE-00094-00023936-00024319 done and even tried doing it jhMgE7S68vE-00095-00024320-00024599 plus i'll tell you about that time when jhMgE7S68vE-00096-00024600-00024919 a dam failed and because of it people jhMgE7S68vE-00097-00024920-00025214 were legally allowed to marry the dead jhMgE7S68vE-00098-00025215-00025639 and still do to this day jhMgE7S68vE-00099-00025639-00025862 now bolt your doors jhMgE7S68vE-00100-00025863-00026022 lock your windows jhMgE7S68vE-00101-00026023-00026167 turn off your lights jhMgE7S68vE-00102-00026168-00027077 and come with me into the weird darkness jhMgE7S68vE-00103-00027079-00027231 [Music] jhMgE7S68vE-00104-00027232-00027343 so jhMgE7S68vE-00105-00027344-00028363 [Music] jhMgE7S68vE-00106-00028364-00029246 [Music] jhMgE7S68vE-00107-00029247-00029679 on september 8 1934 the ss morrow castle jhMgE7S68vE-00108-00029680-00029935 departed on schedule from havana cuba on jhMgE7S68vE-00109-00029936-00030127 its way back to its home port in new jhMgE7S68vE-00110-00030127-00030223 york jhMgE7S68vE-00111-00030224-00030470 it was mostly a routine voyage jhMgE7S68vE-00112-00030472-00030702 although the regular captain captain jhMgE7S68vE-00113-00030703-00030951 robert wilmette had suddenly died the jhMgE7S68vE-00114-00030952-00031055 night before jhMgE7S68vE-00115-00031056-00031295 to be replaced by chief officer william jhMgE7S68vE-00116-00031295-00031414 worms jhMgE7S68vE-00117-00031416-00031614 nevertheless the departure went without jhMgE7S68vE-00118-00031616-00031711 a hitch jhMgE7S68vE-00119-00031712-00031983 with no way anyone could have predicted jhMgE7S68vE-00120-00031983-00032190 the tragic sequence of events that was jhMgE7S68vE-00121-00032191-00032407 about to unfold jhMgE7S68vE-00122-00032408-00032679 it began with stormy weather and a brisk jhMgE7S68vE-00123-00032680-00032911 northeastern wind followed by a fire jhMgE7S68vE-00124-00032912-00033143 that inexplicably broke out in a storage jhMgE7S68vE-00125-00033144-00033311 locker on b deck jhMgE7S68vE-00126-00033312-00033590 the blaze was fueled by the strong winds jhMgE7S68vE-00127-00033591-00033790 soon spreading out of control to knock jhMgE7S68vE-00128-00033791-00033999 out power on the whole ship jhMgE7S68vE-00129-00034000-00034246 with the ship plunged into darkness and jhMgE7S68vE-00130-00034247-00034495 the smoke and fire engulfing everything jhMgE7S68vE-00131-00034496-00034807 in its path there was complete panic and jhMgE7S68vE-00132-00034808-00034983 chaos on board jhMgE7S68vE-00133-00034984-00035159 the coast guard moved in for rescue jhMgE7S68vE-00134-00035160-00035407 operations but the winds and large ocean jhMgE7S68vE-00135-00035408-00035646 swells made progress slow only jhMgE7S68vE-00136-00035647-00035911 compounded by the fact that worms was jhMgE7S68vE-00137-00035912-00036199 highly underqualified to be captain and jhMgE7S68vE-00138-00036200-00036399 so made the mistake of continuing the jhMgE7S68vE-00139-00036400-00036687 ship's course into the gale force winds jhMgE7S68vE-00140-00036688-00036943 rather than turning back towards shore jhMgE7S68vE-00141-00036944-00037143 and furthermore it would turn out that jhMgE7S68vE-00142-00037144-00037399 he had not sent a distress call until a jhMgE7S68vE-00143-00037400-00037702 full 38 minutes after the fire had jhMgE7S68vE-00144-00037703-00037887 broken out jhMgE7S68vE-00145-00037888-00038143 making things even worse was the crew of jhMgE7S68vE-00146-00038144-00038335 the vessel in general was composed of jhMgE7S68vE-00147-00038336-00038583 inexperienced people merely desperate jhMgE7S68vE-00148-00038584-00038823 for work during the depression and some jhMgE7S68vE-00149-00038824-00039071 of which had never ever been on a ship jhMgE7S68vE-00150-00039072-00039207 before jhMgE7S68vE-00151-00039208-00039439 safety precautions were also a joke jhMgE7S68vE-00152-00039440-00039671 with fire doors surrounded by wooden jhMgE7S68vE-00153-00039672-00039974 frames alarm wires disabled and fire jhMgE7S68vE-00154-00039975-00040190 hoses that had been turned off to keep jhMgE7S68vE-00155-00040191-00040390 passengers from tripping on them or jhMgE7S68vE-00156-00040391-00040630 slipping on water from them and there jhMgE7S68vE-00157-00040631-00040815 was the fact that the lifeboats had been jhMgE7S68vE-00158-00040816-00041023 so heavily coated in paint that they jhMgE7S68vE-00159-00041024-00041255 were difficult to remove jhMgE7S68vE-00160-00041256-00041446 mandatory fire drills had never been jhMgE7S68vE-00161-00041447-00041695 carried out nobody seems to have been jhMgE7S68vE-00162-00041696-00041895 trained in how to use the life jackets jhMgE7S68vE-00163-00041896-00042127 either and it would turn out that the jhMgE7S68vE-00164-00042128-00042399 whole ship was a veritable fire trap jhMgE7S68vE-00165-00042400-00042615 with heavy use of ornate wooden jhMgE7S68vE-00166-00042616-00042735 interiors jhMgE7S68vE-00167-00042736-00042974 lacquered wooden furniture and decks jhMgE7S68vE-00168-00042975-00043215 painted with a highly flammable paint jhMgE7S68vE-00169-00043216-00043583 which only made it all the worse jhMgE7S68vE-00170-00043584-00043855 deborah c witcraft co-author of inferno jhMgE7S68vE-00171-00043856-00044079 at sea stories of death and survival jhMgE7S68vE-00172-00044080-00044311 aboard the morrow castle has said of all jhMgE7S68vE-00173-00044312-00044399 of this jhMgE7S68vE-00174-00044400-00044630 it was a very fancy modern vessel for jhMgE7S68vE-00175-00044631-00044735 its time jhMgE7S68vE-00176-00044736-00044951 look at the interior there were so many jhMgE7S68vE-00177-00044952-00045174 pieces of heavily varnished furniture jhMgE7S68vE-00178-00045175-00045455 that acted as accelerants to this fire jhMgE7S68vE-00179-00045456-00045607 when the vessel was laid up between jhMgE7S68vE-00180-00045608-00045799 trips the captain would order the crew jhMgE7S68vE-00181-00045800-00046015 to paint from stem to stern and back jhMgE7S68vE-00182-00046016-00046102 again jhMgE7S68vE-00183-00046103-00046327 there were so many layers of paint in jhMgE7S68vE-00184-00046328-00046502 the chain and the dabbits of the jhMgE7S68vE-00185-00046503-00046727 lifeboats that when the worst happened jhMgE7S68vE-00186-00046728-00046935 and those lifeboats had to be dropped jhMgE7S68vE-00187-00046936-00047127 several of them were unable to deploy jhMgE7S68vE-00188-00047128-00047383 because they were so gummed up it just jhMgE7S68vE-00189-00047384-00047574 locked the boats in place jhMgE7S68vE-00190-00047575-00047711 if you look at the pictures of the jhMgE7S68vE-00191-00047712-00047951 charred remains you see these boats just jhMgE7S68vE-00192-00047952-00048095 hanging there that could never be jhMgE7S68vE-00193-00048096-00048199 lowered jhMgE7S68vE-00194-00048200-00048374 no requirements teaching people how to jhMgE7S68vE-00195-00048375-00048623 properly don life jackets or how to go jhMgE7S68vE-00196-00048624-00048815 to the muster zones for the lifeboats jhMgE7S68vE-00197-00048816-00048943 occurred jhMgE7S68vE-00198-00048944-00049086 because captain wilmette was a people jhMgE7S68vE-00199-00049087-00049279 people-pleaser he never wanted to jhMgE7S68vE-00200-00049280-00049527 inconvenience the passengers or even jhMgE7S68vE-00201-00049528-00049671 imply that there could be the jhMgE7S68vE-00202-00049672-00049879 possibility that they would need to don jhMgE7S68vE-00203-00049880-00050135 these life jackets and jump overboard jhMgE7S68vE-00204-00050136-00050302 when they dropped into the water there jhMgE7S68vE-00205-00050303-00050583 was a 30 to 50 foot drop they had never jhMgE7S68vE-00206-00050584-00050790 been properly shown how to don the jhMgE7S68vE-00207-00050791-00051007 jacket and hold it against their chest jhMgE7S68vE-00208-00051008-00051223 so the jacket came up and broke the jhMgE7S68vE-00209-00051224-00051366 necks of some jhMgE7S68vE-00210-00051367-00051590 with others it came off them completely jhMgE7S68vE-00211-00051591-00051823 or rendered them unconscious which put jhMgE7S68vE-00212-00051824-00052063 them face down in the water there were jhMgE7S68vE-00213-00052064-00052214 so many things that happened here that jhMgE7S68vE-00214-00052215-00052526 defy any explanation it's like a comedy jhMgE7S68vE-00215-00052527-00052791 of errors there were so many things done jhMgE7S68vE-00216-00052791-00052999 wrong here you just can't make this jhMgE7S68vE-00217-00053000-00053223 stuff up jhMgE7S68vE-00218-00053224-00053479 the inferno raged on when all was said jhMgE7S68vE-00219-00053479-00053759 and done the bodies of over 137 jhMgE7S68vE-00220-00053760-00054054 passengers and crew out of 549 jhMgE7S68vE-00221-00054055-00054254 possibly more if you account for any jhMgE7S68vE-00222-00054255-00054542 stowaways were strong about bobbing jhMgE7S68vE-00223-00054544-00054791 around in the sea everywhere the ship jhMgE7S68vE-00224-00054791-00055023 was a total loss and the charred husk of jhMgE7S68vE-00225-00055024-00055279 the vessel ran aground in shallow water jhMgE7S68vE-00226-00055279-00055575 off asbury park new jersey tulum there jhMgE7S68vE-00227-00055576-00055799 just offshore like the remains of some jhMgE7S68vE-00228-00055800-00056063 ancient deep sea leviathan jhMgE7S68vE-00229-00056064-00056263 the site of this massive ship just jhMgE7S68vE-00230-00056264-00056487 sitting out there aground right offshore jhMgE7S68vE-00231-00056488-00056719 caused a lot of excitement at the time jhMgE7S68vE-00232-00056720-00056911 with people flocking from all over to jhMgE7S68vE-00233-00056912-00057135 get a look and take photos jhMgE7S68vE-00234-00057136-00057335 before long there were even souvenir jhMgE7S68vE-00235-00057336-00057638 shops and food stalls set up the whole jhMgE7S68vE-00236-00057639-00057911 thing like a carnival sideshow or county jhMgE7S68vE-00237-00057912-00058023 fair jhMgE7S68vE-00238-00058024-00058230 the water was so shallow some people jhMgE7S68vE-00239-00058232-00058487 even waited out to the hulking ship to jhMgE7S68vE-00240-00058488-00058647 reach out and touch it jhMgE7S68vE-00241-00058648-00058903 and further offshore sightseeing cruises jhMgE7S68vE-00242-00058904-00059126 set up especially for this purpose went jhMgE7S68vE-00243-00059127-00059487 by full of gawking curiosity seekers jhMgE7S68vE-00244-00059488-00059694 eventually the ship was towed away and jhMgE7S68vE-00245-00059695-00059815 scrapped jhMgE7S68vE-00246-00059816-00060030 witcraft says of all of this jhMgE7S68vE-00247-00060032-00060238 the ship ended up sitting there for six jhMgE7S68vE-00248-00060239-00060326 months jhMgE7S68vE-00249-00060327-00060526 the local people were really incensed jhMgE7S68vE-00250-00060527-00060726 that the governing body at the time jhMgE7S68vE-00251-00060727-00060919 thought they would use such a horrific jhMgE7S68vE-00252-00060920-00061215 tragedy as a boost tourism so they threw jhMgE7S68vE-00253-00061216-00061438 that idea out the window but the real jhMgE7S68vE-00254-00061439-00061647 reason that asbury park ended up having jhMgE7S68vE-00255-00061648-00061871 the ship towed off the beach was because jhMgE7S68vE-00256-00061872-00062103 there was a cargo of untreated animal jhMgE7S68vE-00257-00062104-00062287 hides in the hull of the vessel that jhMgE7S68vE-00258-00062288-00062471 they had picked up in cuba and were jhMgE7S68vE-00259-00062472-00062694 bringing back to new york when the wind jhMgE7S68vE-00260-00062695-00062903 came off the ocean the stench of those jhMgE7S68vE-00261-00062904-00063326 rotting hides pervaded asbury park jhMgE7S68vE-00262-00063327-00063526 in the meantime an investigation was jhMgE7S68vE-00263-00063527-00063711 being carried out to find out just jhMgE7S68vE-00264-00063712-00063894 exactly what had happened aboard the jhMgE7S68vE-00265-00063895-00064142 doomed ocean liner with some oddities jhMgE7S68vE-00266-00064144-00064335 along the way to suggest that all of jhMgE7S68vE-00267-00064336-00064647 this had not been a simple accident jhMgE7S68vE-00268-00064648-00064791 one was the death of the original jhMgE7S68vE-00269-00064791-00065087 captain robert wilmet it seemed strange jhMgE7S68vE-00270-00065088-00065279 that he just happened to have dropped jhMgE7S68vE-00271-00065279-00065463 dead from a heart attack on the night jhMgE7S68vE-00272-00065464-00065703 before the voyage especially since he jhMgE7S68vE-00273-00065704-00065935 had been in top physical condition and jhMgE7S68vE-00274-00065936-00066111 had never had any heart issues in his jhMgE7S68vE-00275-00066112-00066263 history jhMgE7S68vE-00276-00066264-00066494 making it even more suspicious was that jhMgE7S68vE-00277-00066495-00066694 although his body was meant to end up in jhMgE7S68vE-00278-00066695-00066887 new york to be tested for any foreign jhMgE7S68vE-00279-00066888-00067215 substances such as alcohol or poison it jhMgE7S68vE-00280-00067216-00067487 never did arrive and in fact was lost jhMgE7S68vE-00281-00067488-00067703 somewhere along the way to never be seen jhMgE7S68vE-00282-00067704-00067831 again jhMgE7S68vE-00283-00067832-00068038 how could this happen jhMgE7S68vE-00284-00068039-00068199 it seemed as if there were perhaps jhMgE7S68vE-00285-00068200-00068447 nefarious dealings going on jhMgE7S68vE-00286-00068448-00068655 and as this avenue was pursued jhMgE7S68vE-00287-00068656-00068871 investigators began to look at one of jhMgE7S68vE-00288-00068872-00068982 the crew jhMgE7S68vE-00289-00068983-00069375 chief radio operator george white rogers jhMgE7S68vE-00290-00069376-00069567 at the time rogers was actually being jhMgE7S68vE-00291-00069568-00069815 hailed as a hero not only had it been jhMgE7S68vE-00292-00069816-00070055 him to realize what was going on and jhMgE7S68vE-00293-00070056-00070247 finally send a distress signal on his jhMgE7S68vE-00294-00070248-00070471 own but he was also credited with saving jhMgE7S68vE-00295-00070472-00070735 the lives of several people aboard jhMgE7S68vE-00296-00070736-00070967 at first glance he seemed to be the good jhMgE7S68vE-00297-00070968-00071047 guy jhMgE7S68vE-00298-00071048-00071279 but for investigators there were cracks jhMgE7S68vE-00299-00071280-00071615 beginning to appear in his heroic facade jhMgE7S68vE-00300-00071616-00071879 for one rogers was one of the last known jhMgE7S68vE-00301-00071880-00072135 people to have seen wilmette alive jhMgE7S68vE-00302-00072136-00072335 that hardly proves that he poisoned the jhMgE7S68vE-00303-00072336-00072582 captain or engaged in any foul play but jhMgE7S68vE-00304-00072583-00072750 it got more interesting when a jhMgE7S68vE-00305-00072751-00072950 background check on him was done to find jhMgE7S68vE-00306-00072951-00073167 that he had quite the criminal history jhMgE7S68vE-00307-00073168-00073367 which had slipped by the ocean liner jhMgE7S68vE-00308-00073368-00073543 company because they had never checked jhMgE7S68vE-00309-00073544-00073647 on it jhMgE7S68vE-00310-00073648-00073838 it turned out that rogers had once been jhMgE7S68vE-00311-00073839-00074079 arrested for making terrorist threats as jhMgE7S68vE-00312-00074080-00074287 a disgruntled employee at his former jhMgE7S68vE-00313-00074288-00074559 company and most intriguing of all he jhMgE7S68vE-00314-00074560-00074735 had been arrested in the past jhMgE7S68vE-00315-00074736-00074943 for arson jhMgE7S68vE-00316-00074944-00075150 also a sort of red flag was that a jhMgE7S68vE-00317-00075151-00075350 failing radio shop he had opened in the jhMgE7S68vE-00318-00075351-00075599 aftermath of the disaster would also jhMgE7S68vE-00319-00075600-00075823 burn down to leave him with insurance jhMgE7S68vE-00320-00075824-00075943 money jhMgE7S68vE-00321-00075944-00076231 this was all rather quite suspicious as jhMgE7S68vE-00322-00076232-00076431 investigators were also trying to figure jhMgE7S68vE-00323-00076432-00076606 out what had caused the fire in the jhMgE7S68vE-00324-00076607-00076719 first place jhMgE7S68vE-00325-00076720-00076943 and one word that had been thrown around jhMgE7S68vE-00326-00076944-00077055 quite a bit jhMgE7S68vE-00327-00077056-00077303 was arson jhMgE7S68vE-00328-00077304-00077567 the idea was that rogers had perhaps jhMgE7S68vE-00329-00077568-00077782 poisoned wilmette and then started the jhMgE7S68vE-00330-00077783-00078071 fire on the ship for reasons unknown but jhMgE7S68vE-00331-00078072-00078319 investigators could find no motive and jhMgE7S68vE-00332-00078320-00078567 no hard evidence for it so he was never jhMgE7S68vE-00333-00078568-00078767 arrested in connection with the death of jhMgE7S68vE-00334-00078768-00078999 willmott or the disaster jhMgE7S68vE-00335-00079000-00079271 however curiously he would be later jhMgE7S68vE-00336-00079272-00079519 arrested when hilariously getting a job jhMgE7S68vE-00337-00079520-00079719 as a police officer he allegedly jhMgE7S68vE-00338-00079720-00079943 attempted to murder his superior officer jhMgE7S68vE-00339-00079944-00080182 by crafting a bomb out of an aquarium of jhMgE7S68vE-00340-00080183-00080303 all things jhMgE7S68vE-00341-00080304-00080479 according to witcraft this was because jhMgE7S68vE-00342-00080480-00080647 he likely felt that the police were jhMgE7S68vE-00343-00080648-00080894 closing in on him she says jhMgE7S68vE-00344-00080895-00081111 one of his superiors lieutenant vincent jhMgE7S68vE-00345-00081112-00081367 doyle starts asking george where were jhMgE7S68vE-00346-00081368-00081543 you when the ship caught on fire what jhMgE7S68vE-00347-00081544-00081655 did you do jhMgE7S68vE-00348-00081656-00081862 well george rogers starts talking to jhMgE7S68vE-00349-00081863-00082079 vince doyle about points of origin jhMgE7S68vE-00350-00082080-00082335 accelerants used and all that jhMgE7S68vE-00351-00082336-00082543 how could you know that if you weren't jhMgE7S68vE-00352-00082544-00082679 the arsonist jhMgE7S68vE-00353-00082680-00082862 so when vincent doyle figured out that jhMgE7S68vE-00354-00082863-00083079 there's something wrong here george jhMgE7S68vE-00355-00083080-00083335 rogers realized he was on to him jhMgE7S68vE-00356-00083336-00083559 george rogers decided he needed to kill jhMgE7S68vE-00357-00083560-00083775 vincent doyle so he took an aquarium jhMgE7S68vE-00358-00083776-00083999 heater and he made a bomb of it jhMgE7S68vE-00359-00084000-00084262 sociopaths are brilliant people there jhMgE7S68vE-00360-00084263-00084471 are a lot of smart people who are crazy jhMgE7S68vE-00361-00084472-00084703 so he makes his bomb that's detonated by jhMgE7S68vE-00362-00084704-00084903 the lifting of the lid in an evidence jhMgE7S68vE-00363-00084904-00085150 box that's in vincent doyle's office jhMgE7S68vE-00364-00085151-00085367 well it ripped his fingers off but it jhMgE7S68vE-00365-00085368-00085599 didn't kill him the bomb wasn't strong jhMgE7S68vE-00366-00085600-00085679 enough jhMgE7S68vE-00367-00085680-00085918 so george rogers went to prison for the jhMgE7S68vE-00368-00085919-00086343 attempted murder of his superior officer jhMgE7S68vE-00369-00086344-00086526 whether him wanting to kill doyle jhMgE7S68vE-00370-00086527-00086735 because of the fire was really the case jhMgE7S68vE-00371-00086736-00086950 or not he went to prison for the jhMgE7S68vE-00372-00086951-00087191 attempted murder be released to serve in jhMgE7S68vE-00373-00087192-00087503 world war ii and unbelievably go back to jhMgE7S68vE-00374-00087504-00087718 prison for life for murdering two jhMgE7S68vE-00375-00087719-00087855 neighbors jhMgE7S68vE-00376-00087856-00088047 eerily when he died suddenly of jhMgE7S68vE-00377-00088048-00088287 mysterious causes just three years into jhMgE7S68vE-00378-00088288-00088471 his life sentence at trenton state jhMgE7S68vE-00379-00088472-00088711 prison it seems his prison records jhMgE7S68vE-00380-00088712-00088975 vanished off the face of the earth jhMgE7S68vE-00381-00088976-00089255 as all of this was going on worms chief jhMgE7S68vE-00382-00089256-00089487 engineer evan abbott and wardline vice jhMgE7S68vE-00383-00089488-00089679 president henry cabot had all been jhMgE7S68vE-00384-00089680-00089847 arrested on charges of criminal jhMgE7S68vE-00385-00089848-00090023 negligence leading to the high death jhMgE7S68vE-00386-00090024-00090126 toll jhMgE7S68vE-00387-00090127-00090431 they would be convicted and sent to jail jhMgE7S68vE-00388-00090432-00090679 but later alby suddenly acquitted and jhMgE7S68vE-00389-00090680-00090871 the blame came to mostly fall on the jhMgE7S68vE-00390-00090872-00091135 shoulders of willmott who was too dead jhMgE7S68vE-00391-00091136-00091375 to put up much of a fight jhMgE7S68vE-00392-00091376-00091575 a lot of people think this plus the jhMgE7S68vE-00393-00091576-00091799 death of rogers and the disappearance of jhMgE7S68vE-00394-00091800-00091991 his records are suspicious and jhMgE7S68vE-00395-00091992-00092191 indicative of some sort of dark jhMgE7S68vE-00396-00092192-00092406 conspiracy involving the government the jhMgE7S68vE-00397-00092407-00092703 ocean liner company foreign powers or jhMgE7S68vE-00398-00092704-00092918 all of the above jhMgE7S68vE-00399-00092919-00093135 one idea is that a deal had been struck jhMgE7S68vE-00400-00093136-00093374 between the united states and cuba to jhMgE7S68vE-00401-00093375-00093647 use the ss morrow castle to secretly jhMgE7S68vE-00402-00093648-00093950 transport arms and munitions to cuba jhMgE7S68vE-00403-00093951-00094118 and those who knew about it were jhMgE7S68vE-00404-00094119-00094359 pardoned or acquitted of any wrongdoing jhMgE7S68vE-00405-00094360-00094582 in the wake of the disaster to keep them jhMgE7S68vE-00406-00094583-00094750 quiet about it jhMgE7S68vE-00407-00094751-00094967 what part did rogers have to play in all jhMgE7S68vE-00408-00094968-00095071 of this jhMgE7S68vE-00409-00095072-00095215 no one knows jhMgE7S68vE-00410-00095216-00095406 but another conspiracy theory is that jhMgE7S68vE-00411-00095407-00095582 he'd been hired by the cruise line jhMgE7S68vE-00412-00095583-00095847 itself to start the fire as part of an jhMgE7S68vE-00413-00095848-00096087 insurance fraud scam or had even been a jhMgE7S68vE-00414-00096088-00096367 government informant or spy jhMgE7S68vE-00415-00096368-00096582 too bad he died suddenly in prison while jhMgE7S68vE-00416-00096583-00096799 doing time for a different crime jhMgE7S68vE-00417-00096800-00096959 otherwise he would have been able to jhMgE7S68vE-00418-00096960-00097087 talk jhMgE7S68vE-00419-00097088-00097279 convenient jhMgE7S68vE-00420-00097280-00097494 was he perhaps silenced in a different jhMgE7S68vE-00421-00097495-00097726 way by his handlers after he was jhMgE7S68vE-00422-00097727-00098038 unexpectedly jailed for life for murder jhMgE7S68vE-00423-00098039-00098159 who knows jhMgE7S68vE-00424-00098160-00098406 but it is easy to see why it all stinks jhMgE7S68vE-00425-00098407-00098631 of some sort of conspiracy jhMgE7S68vE-00426-00098632-00098871 and whitfield has said to this day there jhMgE7S68vE-00427-00098872-00099087 are still records of the moral castle jhMgE7S68vE-00428-00099088-00099262 that are deemed classified by the jhMgE7S68vE-00429-00099263-00099487 government there is so much they wanted jhMgE7S68vE-00430-00099488-00099718 kept away from the american people it's jhMgE7S68vE-00431-00099719-00099935 like the jfk assassination jhMgE7S68vE-00432-00099936-00100094 i think there's so much that the jhMgE7S68vE-00433-00100095-00100326 american people will never know and will jhMgE7S68vE-00434-00100327-00100535 never be disclosed and i think the jhMgE7S68vE-00435-00100536-00100711 people especially the family of the jhMgE7S68vE-00436-00100712-00100974 ill-fated passengers deserve to know jhMgE7S68vE-00437-00100975-00101279 more about what really happened jhMgE7S68vE-00438-00101280-00101535 why would they want to hide all of this jhMgE7S68vE-00439-00101536-00101735 considering that much of the information jhMgE7S68vE-00440-00101736-00101974 remains classified and all of the people jhMgE7S68vE-00441-00101975-00102199 who were actually there are now dead jhMgE7S68vE-00442-00102200-00102374 there's a very good chance that we will jhMgE7S68vE-00443-00102375-00102623 never know what happened aboard the ss jhMgE7S68vE-00444-00102624-00102799 morrow castle jhMgE7S68vE-00445-00102800-00103071 was this all a planned incident with the jhMgE7S68vE-00446-00103072-00103254 death of the original captain and the jhMgE7S68vE-00447-00103255-00103510 fire all connected in some sort of vast jhMgE7S68vE-00448-00103511-00103654 conspiracy jhMgE7S68vE-00449-00103655-00103766 if so jhMgE7S68vE-00450-00103767-00104071 who carried it out and why jhMgE7S68vE-00451-00104072-00104239 or was this all just a series of jhMgE7S68vE-00452-00104240-00104527 coincidences and unfortunate accidents jhMgE7S68vE-00453-00104528-00104742 that came together to create this jhMgE7S68vE-00454-00104743-00104975 concoction of a great maritime mystery jhMgE7S68vE-00455-00104976-00105254 and historical oddity the cause of the jhMgE7S68vE-00456-00105255-00105590 fire is still officially unresolved jhMgE7S68vE-00457-00105591-00105766 no one has ever been truly held jhMgE7S68vE-00458-00105767-00105878 accountable jhMgE7S68vE-00459-00105879-00106102 and it will likely forever remain a jhMgE7S68vE-00460-00106103-00106719 strange mystery of the sea jhMgE7S68vE-00461-00106720-00106823 coming up jhMgE7S68vE-00462-00106824-00107078 jeannie saffin already had a tough life jhMgE7S68vE-00463-00107079-00107263 being born with a birth defect that jhMgE7S68vE-00464-00107264-00107471 stunted her mental growth leaving her jhMgE7S68vE-00465-00107472-00107686 with the mind of a child never getting jhMgE7S68vE-00466-00107688-00107895 married and having kids never even jhMgE7S68vE-00467-00107896-00108207 dating but that all peels in comparison jhMgE7S68vE-00468-00108208-00108358 to how she died jhMgE7S68vE-00469-00108359-00108607 bursting into flames for 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jhMgE7S68vE-00512-00119008-00119199 there when you need them on the hope in jhMgE7S68vE-00513-00119200-00119692 the darkness page at weirddarkness.com jhMgE7S68vE-00514-00119693-00122007 [Music] jhMgE7S68vE-00515-00122008-00122207 a story from the cincinnati ohio jhMgE7S68vE-00516-00122208-00122671 enquirer november 21 1896 page 12. jhMgE7S68vE-00517-00122672-00122871 a country man once entered the office of jhMgE7S68vE-00518-00122872-00123175 a dealer in monuments in the late 1800s jhMgE7S68vE-00519-00123176-00123399 i want a stone to put at the grave of my jhMgE7S68vE-00520-00123400-00123551 wife he said jhMgE7S68vE-00521-00123552-00123751 about what size and price jhMgE7S68vE-00522-00123752-00124007 i don't know the customer said susan was jhMgE7S68vE-00523-00124008-00124214 a good woman a trifle sharp maybe at jhMgE7S68vE-00524-00124215-00124423 times but she was a good woman and never jhMgE7S68vE-00525-00124424-00124623 got tired of working just seemed to sort jhMgE7S68vE-00526-00124624-00124910 of faded away she brought me a tidy sum jhMgE7S68vE-00527-00124911-00125078 when i married her and now i want to put jhMgE7S68vE-00528-00125079-00125263 up a stone that her children and me can jhMgE7S68vE-00529-00125264-00125439 be proud of jhMgE7S68vE-00530-00125440-00125639 did she die recently asked the dealer jhMgE7S68vE-00531-00125640-00125766 sympathetically jhMgE7S68vE-00532-00125767-00126014 not so very it'll be five years next jhMgE7S68vE-00533-00126015-00126254 month i thought to put up a stone sooner jhMgE7S68vE-00534-00126255-00126495 but i've been too busy now i'm got jhMgE7S68vE-00535-00126496-00126807 around to it i want one right away jhMgE7S68vE-00536-00126808-00127023 well here's a book of designs select jhMgE7S68vE-00537-00127024-00127190 what you think will suit you said the jhMgE7S68vE-00538-00127191-00127310 dealer jhMgE7S68vE-00539-00127311-00127551 i don't know much about such things and jhMgE7S68vE-00540-00127552-00127734 you're in the business i'd rather you jhMgE7S68vE-00541-00127735-00127958 would take fifty dollars and do the best jhMgE7S68vE-00542-00127959-00128223 you can i want something showy jhMgE7S68vE-00543-00128224-00128423 i'll tell you how it is and then you'll jhMgE7S68vE-00544-00128424-00128663 know the kind i wanna marry the witter jhMgE7S68vE-00545-00128664-00128934 sproogs and i heared she said that i was jhMgE7S68vE-00546-00128935-00129110 too mean to even put a stone at the jhMgE7S68vE-00547-00129111-00129319 grave of my first wife when she bought jhMgE7S68vE-00548-00129320-00129551 me all of my property put a stone jhMgE7S68vE-00549-00129552-00129734 that'll catch the eye of a witter and jhMgE7S68vE-00550-00129735-00129951 write a nice verse on it if fifty jhMgE7S68vE-00551-00129952-00130143 dollars ain't enough and you're sure a jhMgE7S68vE-00552-00130144-00130319 little more will help me with the witter jhMgE7S68vE-00553-00130320-00130534 put it on i'll make it right soon as i jhMgE7S68vE-00554-00130535-00130758 marry her she's got a heap of property jhMgE7S68vE-00555-00130759-00130927 and while it seems a lot of money to put jhMgE7S68vE-00556-00130928-00131127 in a stone i reckon the chances are with jhMgE7S68vE-00557-00131128-00131214 it jhMgE7S68vE-00558-00131215-00131495 and the sorrow-stricken widower paid 50 jhMgE7S68vE-00559-00131496-00131678 and inquired where he could get a jhMgE7S68vE-00560-00131679-00132014 present cheap that would suit a widow jhMgE7S68vE-00561-00132015-00132223 a widow's care of his wife's grave could jhMgE7S68vE-00562-00132224-00132390 catch a woman's eye jhMgE7S68vE-00563-00132391-00132590 posted in the kansas city missouri star jhMgE7S68vE-00564-00132591-00132927 april 2 1924 page 26 from the newton jhMgE7S68vE-00565-00132928-00133087 kansas newspaper jhMgE7S68vE-00566-00133088-00133335 a kansan woman fell in love and married jhMgE7S68vE-00567-00133336-00133551 a widower for no other reason so she jhMgE7S68vE-00568-00133552-00133631 said jhMgE7S68vE-00569-00133632-00133863 than that he took such excellent care of jhMgE7S68vE-00570-00133864-00134724 his first wife's grave jhMgE7S68vE-00571-00134725-00135343 [Music] jhMgE7S68vE-00572-00135344-00135647 on december 23 1954 jhMgE7S68vE-00573-00135648-00135902 a surgical team led by joseph e murray jhMgE7S68vE-00574-00135903-00136102 of the peter bent brigham hospital in jhMgE7S68vE-00575-00136103-00136359 boston performed the first successful jhMgE7S68vE-00576-00136360-00136654 human organ transplant in history jhMgE7S68vE-00577-00136655-00136847 the operation in which a kidney was jhMgE7S68vE-00578-00136848-00137047 removed from the body of a healthy male jhMgE7S68vE-00579-00137048-00137263 patient and implanted into that of his jhMgE7S68vE-00580-00137264-00137527 ailing twin brother was a milestone in jhMgE7S68vE-00581-00137528-00137719 the annals of modern medicine an jhMgE7S68vE-00582-00137720-00137919 achievement that at the time seemed like jhMgE7S68vE-00583-00137920-00138143 something out of science fiction jhMgE7S68vE-00584-00138144-00138319 but one of the young doctors witnessing jhMgE7S68vE-00585-00138320-00138575 the operation that day harbored dreams jhMgE7S68vE-00586-00138576-00138790 of an even more ambitious coup than jhMgE7S68vE-00587-00138791-00138902 murray's jhMgE7S68vE-00588-00138903-00139190 robert j white a 28 year old resident in jhMgE7S68vE-00589-00139191-00139439 general surgery at brigham didn't see jhMgE7S68vE-00590-00139440-00139623 why he should be content replacing jhMgE7S68vE-00591-00139624-00139847 individual organs when he could jhMgE7S68vE-00592-00139848-00140119 theoretically replace all the organs at jhMgE7S68vE-00593-00140120-00140414 once by transplanting a sick patient's jhMgE7S68vE-00594-00140415-00140831 head onto an entirely different body jhMgE7S68vE-00595-00140832-00141078 this notion hardly less bizarre sounding jhMgE7S68vE-00596-00141079-00141351 today than it was in 1954 would become jhMgE7S68vE-00597-00141352-00141590 the goal white aspired to do for the jhMgE7S68vE-00598-00141591-00141783 rest of his life jhMgE7S68vE-00599-00141784-00142023 white's unorthodox quest made national jhMgE7S68vE-00600-00142024-00142207 news several times over the course of jhMgE7S68vE-00601-00142208-00142471 his long career but in the book mr jhMgE7S68vE-00602-00142472-00142759 humble and dr butcher brandy shillis jhMgE7S68vE-00603-00142760-00142943 finally gives it the thoughtful book jhMgE7S68vE-00604-00142944-00143151 length treatment it deserves jhMgE7S68vE-00605-00143152-00143351 i trust it won't be a spoiler to reveal jhMgE7S68vE-00606-00143352-00143647 that white died in 2010 without ever jhMgE7S68vE-00607-00143648-00143814 getting a chance to perform his much jhMgE7S68vE-00608-00143815-00144014 desired head transplant jhMgE7S68vE-00609-00144015-00144287 on humans at least but he did come jhMgE7S68vE-00610-00144288-00144566 remarkably close at one point finding jhMgE7S68vE-00611-00144567-00144814 both a willing human volunteer a jhMgE7S68vE-00612-00144815-00145063 quadriplegic with failing organs and a jhMgE7S68vE-00613-00145064-00145311 medical establishment russia's flexible jhMgE7S68vE-00614-00145312-00145478 or reckless enough to fast-track the jhMgE7S68vE-00615-00145479-00145683 surgery without endless review board jhMgE7S68vE-00616-00145684-00145959 approvals in fact were it not for its jhMgE7S68vE-00617-00145960-00146263 exorbitant cost the white operation as jhMgE7S68vE-00618-00146264-00146431 the good doctor himself rather jhMgE7S68vE-00619-00146432-00146678 immodestly dubbed the procedure might jhMgE7S68vE-00620-00146679-00146919 actually have gone forward jhMgE7S68vE-00621-00146920-00147143 the idea of transplanting human parts jhMgE7S68vE-00622-00147144-00147375 was hardly new even when white first jhMgE7S68vE-00623-00147376-00147551 came up with his wholesale version in jhMgE7S68vE-00624-00147552-00147719 the 1950s jhMgE7S68vE-00625-00147720-00147863 surgeons in europe had been doing jhMgE7S68vE-00626-00147864-00148063 serious work on transplants since the jhMgE7S68vE-00627-00148064-00148335 late 19th century perfecting techniques jhMgE7S68vE-00628-00148336-00148623 of integrating new limbs and organs into jhMgE7S68vE-00629-00148624-00148863 the bodies of various lab animals jhMgE7S68vE-00630-00148864-00149078 but all of these surgeries had ended in jhMgE7S68vE-00631-00149079-00149278 failure with the recipient's body jhMgE7S68vE-00632-00149279-00149447 interpreting the foreign tissue as a jhMgE7S68vE-00633-00149448-00149719 threat and creating a destroying agent jhMgE7S68vE-00634-00149720-00149878 to eliminate it jhMgE7S68vE-00635-00149879-00150143 by the 1950s this rejection issue led jhMgE7S68vE-00636-00150144-00150335 many to believe that human transplant jhMgE7S68vE-00637-00150336-00150551 surgery was hopeless something that jhMgE7S68vE-00638-00150552-00150743 could succeed only in special jhMgE7S68vE-00639-00150744-00150975 circumstances like those of murray's jhMgE7S68vE-00640-00150976-00151214 1954 kidney procedure where rejection jhMgE7S68vE-00641-00151215-00151399 did not occur because the patients were jhMgE7S68vE-00642-00151400-00151654 genetically identical twins jhMgE7S68vE-00643-00151655-00151878 notwithstanding this stubborn obstacle jhMgE7S68vE-00644-00151879-00152078 surgeons continued experimenting with jhMgE7S68vE-00645-00152079-00152351 transplants setting off a kind of cold jhMgE7S68vE-00646-00152352-00152607 war competition similar to the space jhMgE7S68vE-00647-00152608-00152847 race ignited by the sputnik launch jhMgE7S68vE-00648-00152848-00153071 a russian physiologist named vladimir jhMgE7S68vE-00649-00153072-00153326 damikov who operated without benefit of jhMgE7S68vE-00650-00153327-00153671 an md or a phd gave the soviets an early jhMgE7S68vE-00651-00153672-00153983 lead in this inner space race jhMgE7S68vE-00652-00153984-00154159 film footage that leaked to the west in jhMgE7S68vE-00653-00154160-00154511 1958 showed demikov ostensibly splicing jhMgE7S68vE-00654-00154512-00154743 together a mastiff and a much smaller jhMgE7S68vE-00655-00154744-00154983 dog to create a composite animal with jhMgE7S68vE-00656-00154984-00155207 eight legs and two fully functional jhMgE7S68vE-00657-00155208-00155351 heads jhMgE7S68vE-00658-00155352-00155575 shillis always alert to the queasy but jhMgE7S68vE-00659-00155576-00155790 alluring strangeness of her material jhMgE7S68vE-00660-00155791-00156031 playfully notes that this canine jigsaw jhMgE7S68vE-00661-00156032-00156247 was named cerberus after the jhMgE7S68vE-00662-00156248-00156535 three-headed hound of hades jhMgE7S68vE-00663-00156536-00156790 not to be outdone white practicing now jhMgE7S68vE-00664-00156791-00156966 at the cleveland metropolitan general jhMgE7S68vE-00665-00156967-00157047 hospital jhMgE7S68vE-00666-00157048-00157254 began conducting equally macabre jhMgE7S68vE-00667-00157255-00157478 experiments on primates jhMgE7S68vE-00668-00157479-00157663 after perfecting the means by which a jhMgE7S68vE-00669-00157664-00157854 monkey's brain could be chilled jhMgE7S68vE-00670-00157855-00158111 drastically reducing its need for oxygen jhMgE7S68vE-00671-00158112-00158311 he performed experimental surgeries in jhMgE7S68vE-00672-00158312-00158502 which one animal's brain was removed jhMgE7S68vE-00673-00158503-00158702 from its body and attached to the jhMgE7S68vE-00674-00158703-00158975 circulatory system of a second jhMgE7S68vE-00675-00158976-00159247 ultimately in march 1970 he was able to jhMgE7S68vE-00676-00159248-00159526 perform a true white operation a jhMgE7S68vE-00677-00159527-00159799 grueling 18-hour procedure in which he jhMgE7S68vE-00678-00159800-00160087 moved an entire head from monkey a on to jhMgE7S68vE-00679-00160088-00160375 the decapitated body of monkey b jhMgE7S68vE-00680-00160376-00160687 the results were promising if grotesque jhMgE7S68vE-00681-00160688-00160863 the hybrid creature though paralyzed jhMgE7S68vE-00682-00160864-00161126 from the neck down lived for nine days jhMgE7S68vE-00683-00161127-00161407 before rejection set in jhMgE7S68vE-00684-00161408-00161566 it would take the development of jhMgE7S68vE-00685-00161567-00161775 immunosuppressant drugs to ultimately jhMgE7S68vE-00686-00161776-00161966 solve the rejection problem and make jhMgE7S68vE-00687-00161967-00162239 transplants an almost routine procedure jhMgE7S68vE-00688-00162240-00162423 but although the technical hurdles to jhMgE7S68vE-00689-00162424-00162663 white's dream were being overcome the jhMgE7S68vE-00690-00162664-00162943 moral impediments not least the cruelty jhMgE7S68vE-00691-00162944-00163135 of causing so much animal suffering in jhMgE7S68vE-00692-00163136-00163319 the name of medical research were jhMgE7S68vE-00693-00163320-00163478 another matter jhMgE7S68vE-00694-00163479-00163711 white is a devout catholic who believed jhMgE7S68vE-00695-00163712-00163902 that non-human animals lacked any jhMgE7S68vE-00696-00163903-00164159 immortal soul was firmly convinced that jhMgE7S68vE-00697-00164160-00164399 his ends justified his means and that jhMgE7S68vE-00698-00164400-00164599 his lab monkeys died for the greater jhMgE7S68vE-00699-00164600-00164838 good of saving human lives jhMgE7S68vE-00700-00164839-00165038 not everyone agreed and throughout the jhMgE7S68vE-00701-00165039-00165359 1960s 70s and 80s the surgeon found jhMgE7S68vE-00702-00165360-00165590 himself engaged in some high-profile jhMgE7S68vE-00703-00165591-00165783 debates with the likes of italian jhMgE7S68vE-00704-00165784-00166014 journalist orianna falassi and animal jhMgE7S68vE-00705-00166015-00166271 rights activist ingrid newkirk jhMgE7S68vE-00706-00166272-00166463 even more intriguing however are the jhMgE7S68vE-00707-00166464-00166687 philosophical issues raised by white's jhMgE7S68vE-00708-00166688-00166911 work and schillis book is most jhMgE7S68vE-00709-00166912-00167143 fascinating when discussing how he did jhMgE7S68vE-00710-00167144-00167366 and didn't address them jhMgE7S68vE-00711-00167367-00167590 moving a brain and the consciousness jhMgE7S68vE-00712-00167591-00167790 that goes with it from one body to jhMgE7S68vE-00713-00167791-00168031 another brings up fundamental questions jhMgE7S68vE-00714-00168032-00168247 about our notions of the self jhMgE7S68vE-00715-00168248-00168431 the definition of death and even the jhMgE7S68vE-00716-00168432-00168647 ethics of immortality jhMgE7S68vE-00717-00168648-00168935 could it really be okay as shiloh jhMgE7S68vE-00718-00168936-00169311 pithily asked to take off someone's head jhMgE7S68vE-00719-00169312-00169511 white a man once characterized as jhMgE7S68vE-00720-00169512-00169726 supremely untroubled by the implications jhMgE7S68vE-00721-00169727-00169999 of his work never had any doubt that it jhMgE7S68vE-00722-00170000-00170126 was jhMgE7S68vE-00723-00170127-00170351 but as advances in medical technology jhMgE7S68vE-00724-00170352-00170559 make a brain transplant increasingly jhMgE7S68vE-00725-00170560-00170878 feasible the issue becomes more urgent jhMgE7S68vE-00726-00170879-00171063 as this spirited and breezily jhMgE7S68vE-00727-00171064-00171295 provocative book makes clear we'll have jhMgE7S68vE-00728-00171296-00171495 to grapple with the implications of a jhMgE7S68vE-00729-00171496-00171678 human white operation jhMgE7S68vE-00730-00171679-00172001 much sooner than we think jhMgE7S68vE-00731-00172002-00172901 [Music] jhMgE7S68vE-00732-00172902-00173059 [Applause] jhMgE7S68vE-00733-00173060-00173343 [Music] jhMgE7S68vE-00734-00173344-00173559 one prevalent phenomenon in the world of jhMgE7S68vE-00735-00173560-00173823 the paranormal is called spontaneous jhMgE7S68vE-00736-00173824-00174007 human combustion jhMgE7S68vE-00737-00174008-00174166 it typically entails someone jhMgE7S68vE-00738-00174167-00174438 mysteriously bursting into flame being jhMgE7S68vE-00739-00174439-00174671 burned down to a charred husk for no jhMgE7S68vE-00740-00174672-00174895 discernible reason often with other jhMgE7S68vE-00741-00174896-00175119 things around them that are untouched by jhMgE7S68vE-00742-00175120-00175278 the flames jhMgE7S68vE-00743-00175279-00175551 such cases of this are numerous but some jhMgE7S68vE-00744-00175552-00175871 really stand out and this is one of them jhMgE7S68vE-00745-00175872-00176159 born in edmonton london in 1921 the jhMgE7S68vE-00746-00176160-00176423 woman called jeannie saffin already had jhMgE7S68vE-00747-00176424-00176663 a fairly rough life she suffered from a jhMgE7S68vE-00748-00176664-00176895 birth defect that had severely stunted jhMgE7S68vE-00749-00176896-00177095 her mental growth never allowing her to jhMgE7S68vE-00750-00177096-00177278 advance past the mental abilities of jhMgE7S68vE-00751-00177279-00177431 those of a child jhMgE7S68vE-00752-00177432-00177614 she'd never been able to live on her own jhMgE7S68vE-00753-00177615-00177783 or take care of herself jhMgE7S68vE-00754-00177784-00178047 so at the age of 61 the unmarried genie jhMgE7S68vE-00755-00178048-00178238 who was still mentally at the level of a jhMgE7S68vE-00756-00178239-00178463 six-year-old was living with her 82 year jhMgE7S68vE-00757-00178464-00178711 old father jack saffin jhMgE7S68vE-00758-00178712-00178975 they had a mostly content life despite jhMgE7S68vE-00759-00178976-00179231 genie's handicaps but one evening in jhMgE7S68vE-00760-00179232-00179566 1982 it would spiral into horror and a jhMgE7S68vE-00761-00179567-00179799 strange mystery that is still discussed jhMgE7S68vE-00762-00179800-00179926 to this day jhMgE7S68vE-00763-00179927-00180143 as well as one of the most talked about jhMgE7S68vE-00764-00180144-00180431 cases of supposed spontaneous human jhMgE7S68vE-00765-00180432-00180623 combustion jhMgE7S68vE-00766-00180624-00180975 on september 15 1982 jeannie was at home jhMgE7S68vE-00767-00180976-00181175 with her father and brother-in-law don jhMgE7S68vE-00768-00181176-00181431 carroll it was a perfectly normal jhMgE7S68vE-00769-00181432-00181638 peaceful evening with nothing out of the jhMgE7S68vE-00770-00181639-00181854 ordinary and no way to know that jhMgE7S68vE-00771-00181855-00182102 something very bizarre and terrifying jhMgE7S68vE-00772-00182103-00182295 was about to happen jhMgE7S68vE-00773-00182296-00182438 it all started when jack was in the jhMgE7S68vE-00774-00182439-00182671 kitchen getting dinner ready as genie jhMgE7S68vE-00775-00182672-00182887 sat calmly in her usual chair at the jhMgE7S68vE-00776-00182888-00183087 table right nearby jhMgE7S68vE-00777-00183088-00183335 at some point jack saw a bright flash jhMgE7S68vE-00778-00183336-00183495 from the corner of his eye and was jhMgE7S68vE-00779-00183496-00183726 shocked to turn and see his daughter on jhMgE7S68vE-00780-00183727-00183847 fire jhMgE7S68vE-00781-00183848-00184087 eerily she was reported as just sitting jhMgE7S68vE-00782-00184088-00184311 there calmly with her hands in her lap jhMgE7S68vE-00783-00184312-00184559 as the flames rapidly spread out jhMgE7S68vE-00784-00184560-00184831 she didn't cry out or scream just jhMgE7S68vE-00785-00184832-00185119 sitting there as the flames consumed her jhMgE7S68vE-00786-00185120-00185287 although carol would later claim that jhMgE7S68vE-00787-00185288-00185487 when the fire reached her face she had jhMgE7S68vE-00788-00185488-00185663 belched flames that were coming from her jhMgE7S68vE-00789-00185664-00185895 mouth like a dragon and making a roaring jhMgE7S68vE-00790-00185896-00186063 noise jhMgE7S68vE-00791-00186064-00186263 jack and carol sprang into action jhMgE7S68vE-00792-00186264-00186471 managing to douse the raging fire with jhMgE7S68vE-00793-00186472-00186678 water from the kitchen but although jhMgE7S68vE-00794-00186679-00186895 genie was still alive at this point she jhMgE7S68vE-00795-00186896-00187063 was horribly burned jhMgE7S68vE-00796-00187064-00187263 she was rushed to the burn unit at mount jhMgE7S68vE-00797-00187264-00187471 vernon hospital by ambulance but jhMgE7S68vE-00798-00187472-00187678 tragically would slip into a coma and jhMgE7S68vE-00799-00187679-00187959 die of her burns eight days later jhMgE7S68vE-00800-00187960-00188190 rather spookily at no point during the jhMgE7S68vE-00801-00188191-00188423 time that she was still conscious did jhMgE7S68vE-00802-00188424-00188599 she cry out in pain jhMgE7S68vE-00803-00188600-00188887 rather just staring off into space as if jhMgE7S68vE-00804-00188888-00189071 in a trance jhMgE7S68vE-00805-00189072-00189254 this is despite the fact that her burns jhMgE7S68vE-00806-00189255-00189478 were very serious and doctors were jhMgE7S68vE-00807-00189479-00189678 shocked to see that the woman's flesh jhMgE7S68vE-00808-00189679-00189895 had been burned away all the way down to jhMgE7S68vE-00809-00189896-00190135 the subcutaneous fat with most of the jhMgE7S68vE-00810-00190136-00190366 damage focused in her face abdomen and jhMgE7S68vE-00811-00190367-00190575 hands which were little more than jhMgE7S68vE-00812-00190576-00190735 skeleton jhMgE7S68vE-00813-00190736-00190990 also very strange was that her clothes jhMgE7S68vE-00814-00190991-00191247 were reportedly only lightly singed in jhMgE7S68vE-00815-00191248-00191471 places it had not been completely burned jhMgE7S68vE-00816-00191472-00191775 away as would be expected jhMgE7S68vE-00817-00191776-00191983 when investigators examined the scene of jhMgE7S68vE-00818-00191984-00192166 the strange incident they were rather jhMgE7S68vE-00819-00192167-00192414 perplexed by some odd details jhMgE7S68vE-00820-00192415-00192631 they noticed that both the chair genie jhMgE7S68vE-00821-00192632-00192807 had been sitting in and the adjacent jhMgE7S68vE-00822-00192808-00193119 walls were unmarked and undamaged by jhMgE7S68vE-00823-00193120-00193263 fire or smoke jhMgE7S68vE-00824-00193264-00193463 and not only that but there was no jhMgE7S68vE-00825-00193464-00193759 obvious source of ignition for the fire jhMgE7S68vE-00826-00193760-00193926 the nearest flame that could have caused jhMgE7S68vE-00827-00193927-00194214 it was some five feet away in the form jhMgE7S68vE-00828-00194215-00194454 of the pilot light for the gas stove jhMgE7S68vE-00829-00194455-00194702 but she had been nowhere near it and was jhMgE7S68vE-00830-00194703-00194887 protected by a grill hood that would jhMgE7S68vE-00831-00194888-00195071 have prevented it from igniting a person jhMgE7S68vE-00832-00195072-00195335 even standing right up against it jhMgE7S68vE-00833-00195336-00195590 in addition donald carroll would insist jhMgE7S68vE-00834-00195591-00195790 that the pilot light had not even been jhMgE7S68vE-00835-00195791-00196078 turned on at the time anyway jhMgE7S68vE-00836-00196079-00196278 another possibility was that jack was jhMgE7S68vE-00837-00196279-00196463 known to smoke a pipe and it was jhMgE7S68vE-00838-00196464-00196671 reasoned that a stray ember could have jhMgE7S68vE-00839-00196672-00196935 fallen on genie but jack and carol both jhMgE7S68vE-00840-00196936-00197143 agreed that he had not been smoking at jhMgE7S68vE-00841-00197144-00197399 the time and police found only fresh jhMgE7S68vE-00842-00197400-00197599 unburned tobacco in the pipe on the jhMgE7S68vE-00843-00197600-00197726 table jhMgE7S68vE-00844-00197727-00198063 so how had the fire started jhMgE7S68vE-00845-00198064-00198238 no one had a clue jhMgE7S68vE-00846-00198239-00198463 police did consider the fact that both jhMgE7S68vE-00847-00198464-00198687 jack and carol might have been lying jhMgE7S68vE-00848-00198688-00198878 about what had really happened but there jhMgE7S68vE-00849-00198879-00199199 was no evidence that this was the case jhMgE7S68vE-00850-00199200-00199438 pc lee marsden of edmonton police jhMgE7S68vE-00851-00199439-00199607 station would come to the conclusion jhMgE7S68vE-00852-00199608-00199814 that it was a case of spontaneous human jhMgE7S68vE-00853-00199815-00200078 combustion but the coroner disagreed jhMgE7S68vE-00854-00200079-00200278 saying there was no such thing and jhMgE7S68vE-00855-00200279-00200447 officially stating that it was an open jhMgE7S68vE-00856-00200448-00200783 verdict of death by misadventure jhMgE7S68vE-00857-00200784-00201014 this still doesn't really answer what jhMgE7S68vE-00858-00201015-00201302 exactly happened to jeannie saffin jhMgE7S68vE-00859-00201303-00201511 what caused her to explode into flames jhMgE7S68vE-00860-00201512-00201831 like that and be so thoroughly charred jhMgE7S68vE-00861-00201832-00202023 why was it that only certain parts of jhMgE7S68vE-00862-00202024-00202278 her body were burned and why had she not jhMgE7S68vE-00863-00202279-00202487 screamed or panicked jhMgE7S68vE-00864-00202488-00202647 what was the roaring noise that was jhMgE7S68vE-00865-00202648-00202750 heard jhMgE7S68vE-00866-00202751-00202959 how is it that nothing around her had jhMgE7S68vE-00867-00202960-00203135 been burned jhMgE7S68vE-00868-00203136-00203287 in later years there have been efforts jhMgE7S68vE-00869-00203288-00203543 to try and explain some of these things jhMgE7S68vE-00870-00203544-00203695 and there have been some holes in the jhMgE7S68vE-00871-00203696-00203863 story found as well jhMgE7S68vE-00872-00203864-00204054 for instance while most versions of the jhMgE7S68vE-00873-00204055-00204287 tale tell of genie's clothes being jhMgE7S68vE-00874-00204288-00204526 unburned it was later found by research jhMgE7S68vE-00875-00204527-00204726 carried out by skeptic joe nickel that jhMgE7S68vE-00876-00204727-00204942 one of the paramedics at the scene in jhMgE7S68vE-00877-00204944-00205158 fact did state that her clothes had been jhMgE7S68vE-00878-00205159-00205358 on fire too and that they had been put jhMgE7S68vE-00879-00205359-00205551 out with a wet towel jhMgE7S68vE-00880-00205552-00205823 as to how the fire started nicholas also jhMgE7S68vE-00881-00205823-00205990 insisted that jack had been likely jhMgE7S68vE-00882-00205991-00206206 smoking earlier and that perhaps some of jhMgE7S68vE-00883-00206207-00206390 the pipe embers had landed on genie's jhMgE7S68vE-00884-00206391-00206686 clothes to smolder only later fully jhMgE7S68vE-00885-00206687-00206871 igniting with the draft jhMgE7S68vE-00886-00206871-00207031 it's also been pointed out that jack jhMgE7S68vE-00887-00207032-00207294 saffin was practically deaf making his jhMgE7S68vE-00888-00207296-00207527 testimony of what had happened perhaps jhMgE7S68vE-00889-00207528-00207727 not totally reliable jhMgE7S68vE-00890-00207728-00207951 the roaring sound was likely caused by jhMgE7S68vE-00891-00207952-00208151 the rapid evaporation of water from jhMgE7S68vE-00892-00208152-00208366 genie's body and the lack of pain jhMgE7S68vE-00893-00208367-00208527 response could have been due to the jhMgE7S68vE-00894-00208528-00208838 shock and perhaps medication she was on jhMgE7S68vE-00895-00208839-00209062 however even if these skeptical jhMgE7S68vE-00896-00209063-00209294 arguments are true we're left to try and jhMgE7S68vE-00897-00209296-00209562 figure out how her body would ignite so jhMgE7S68vE-00898-00209563-00209846 spectacularly in the first place and why jhMgE7S68vE-00899-00209848-00210215 it had not burned anything around it the jhMgE7S68vE-00900-00210216-00210542 human body is composed of mostly water jhMgE7S68vE-00901-00210544-00210758 and in fact is very difficult to catch jhMgE7S68vE-00902-00210759-00211023 on fire and fully burn in a short span jhMgE7S68vE-00903-00211023-00211246 of time as described here something jhMgE7S68vE-00904-00211248-00211446 anyone who has tried to cremate one will jhMgE7S68vE-00905-00211448-00211775 attest to how could she just so suddenly jhMgE7S68vE-00906-00211776-00212006 and completely burst into flame like jhMgE7S68vE-00907-00212007-00212271 that and be burned so thoroughly down to jhMgE7S68vE-00908-00212271-00212510 the bone in some places in the span of jhMgE7S68vE-00909-00212511-00212742 just a few minutes jhMgE7S68vE-00910-00212744-00212927 one idea is that this was due to what is jhMgE7S68vE-00911-00212928-00213151 called the wick effect jhMgE7S68vE-00912-00213152-00213327 essentially the idea that the fats in jhMgE7S68vE-00913-00213328-00213503 the human body can under some jhMgE7S68vE-00914-00213504-00213710 circumstances act like the wick of a jhMgE7S68vE-00915-00213711-00213815 candle jhMgE7S68vE-00916-00213816-00214039 but this process would take hours to jhMgE7S68vE-00917-00214040-00214215 cause the kind of burning seen with jhMgE7S68vE-00918-00214216-00214310 safin jhMgE7S68vE-00919-00214311-00214527 she was only in flames for one or two jhMgE7S68vE-00920-00214528-00214703 minutes at most jhMgE7S68vE-00921-00214704-00214910 it is the stubborn mysteries such as jhMgE7S68vE-00922-00214911-00215167 these that have kept the case alive and jhMgE7S68vE-00923-00215167-00215327 of course there are those that hold this jhMgE7S68vE-00924-00215328-00215623 up as not only a genuine and exceptional jhMgE7S68vE-00925-00215623-00215879 case so spontaneous human combustion but jhMgE7S68vE-00926-00215880-00216110 also one of the only known cases of this jhMgE7S68vE-00927-00216111-00216351 phenomenon that was actually witnessed jhMgE7S68vE-00928-00216352-00216631 firsthand as it occurred jhMgE7S68vE-00929-00216632-00216823 some researchers have even gone farther jhMgE7S68vE-00930-00216823-00217015 and suggested that spontaneous human jhMgE7S68vE-00931-00217016-00217255 combustion could be even weirder than it jhMgE7S68vE-00932-00217256-00217423 seems already jhMgE7S68vE-00933-00217423-00217615 scientist larry arnold has studied the jhMgE7S68vE-00934-00217616-00217879 phenomenon for decades and is convinced jhMgE7S68vE-00935-00217880-00218119 that there are what he calls fire lines jhMgE7S68vE-00936-00218119-00218319 which are geographical hotspots for jhMgE7S68vE-00937-00218319-00218542 spontaneous human combustion and which jhMgE7S68vE-00938-00218544-00218742 he believes britain happens to have a jhMgE7S68vE-00939-00218744-00218934 high concentration of jhMgE7S68vE-00940-00218935-00219063 he says of this jhMgE7S68vE-00941-00219064-00219287 there are more cases in the uk per head jhMgE7S68vE-00942-00219288-00219510 of population than anywhere in the world jhMgE7S68vE-00943-00219511-00219767 a veritable cartography of combustion if jhMgE7S68vE-00944-00219767-00219927 you're in the wrong place at the wrong jhMgE7S68vE-00945-00219928-00220239 time you your dog your car or your home jhMgE7S68vE-00946-00220240-00220479 seems more likely to go up in flames jhMgE7S68vE-00947-00220480-00220671 we have no way to explain these cases jhMgE7S68vE-00948-00220671-00220871 other than these people burn themselves jhMgE7S68vE-00949-00220871-00221110 from the inside out we have medical jhMgE7S68vE-00950-00221111-00221367 evidence to show this and witnesses even jhMgE7S68vE-00951-00221367-00221487 survivors jhMgE7S68vE-00952-00221488-00221703 it's as bizarre as nature gets yet jhMgE7S68vE-00953-00221704-00221934 mainstream science won't accept that it jhMgE7S68vE-00954-00221935-00222142 can happen jhMgE7S68vE-00955-00222144-00222342 so is there anything to this jhMgE7S68vE-00956-00222344-00222446 there have been all manner of jhMgE7S68vE-00957-00222448-00222710 explanations posited for why spontaneous jhMgE7S68vE-00958-00222711-00222887 human combustion might happen jhMgE7S68vE-00959-00222888-00223110 ranging from the mundane and practical jhMgE7S68vE-00960-00223111-00223358 to the truly outlandish and although it jhMgE7S68vE-00961-00223359-00223534 has all been discussed and debated for a jhMgE7S68vE-00962-00223535-00223815 very long time there seems to be no firm jhMgE7S68vE-00963-00223816-00224039 agreement on the matter jhMgE7S68vE-00964-00224040-00224279 in the meantime cases still come in from jhMgE7S68vE-00965-00224280-00224527 time to time with saffins being a rather jhMgE7S68vE-00966-00224528-00224742 recent one that has the added benefit of jhMgE7S68vE-00967-00224744-00225046 having actual witnesses to the incident jhMgE7S68vE-00968-00225048-00225303 what happened to jeannie saffin jhMgE7S68vE-00969-00225304-00225567 how could she go from sitting there to jhMgE7S68vE-00970-00225567-00225815 engulfed in flame and burned to the bone jhMgE7S68vE-00971-00225816-00226071 in just minutes without any discernible jhMgE7S68vE-00972-00226071-00226303 source or reason jhMgE7S68vE-00973-00226304-00226494 can this somehow be explained in jhMgE7S68vE-00974-00226496-00226646 rational terms jhMgE7S68vE-00975-00226648-00226927 or is this an example of forces beyond jhMgE7S68vE-00976-00226928-00227142 our understanding jhMgE7S68vE-00977-00227144-00227641 we may never know jhMgE7S68vE-00978-00227642-00228423 [Music] jhMgE7S68vE-00979-00228423-00228671 when weird darkness returns if a man jhMgE7S68vE-00980-00228671-00228879 demands his girlfriend give up the baby jhMgE7S68vE-00981-00228880-00229071 they conceived otherwise he would no jhMgE7S68vE-00982-00229071-00229287 longer be with the woman what is that jhMgE7S68vE-00983-00229288-00229519 newborn's mother to do jhMgE7S68vE-00984-00229519-00229751 sadly emily dunn made the wrong decision jhMgE7S68vE-00985-00229752-00229991 with tragic results jhMgE7S68vE-00986-00229992-00230215 plus i'll tell you about that time when jhMgE7S68vE-00987-00230216-00230479 a dam failed and because of it people jhMgE7S68vE-00988-00230480-00230806 were legally allowed to marry the dead jhMgE7S68vE-00989-00230807-00230991 and still do jhMgE7S68vE-00990-00230992-00231366 those stories are up next jhMgE7S68vE-00991-00231367-00232558 [Music] jhMgE7S68vE-00992-00232559-00232734 you shut yourself in jhMgE7S68vE-00993-00232735-00232942 the lights are out and you're listening jhMgE7S68vE-00994-00232944-00233110 to weird darkness jhMgE7S68vE-00995-00233111-00233351 but suddenly you get that feeling you're jhMgE7S68vE-00996-00233352-00233479 not alone jhMgE7S68vE-00997-00233480-00233655 you don't know what might be under the jhMgE7S68vE-00998-00233656-00233734 bed jhMgE7S68vE-00999-00233735-00233887 or in the closet jhMgE7S68vE-01000-00233888-00234055 or in the attic jhMgE7S68vE-01001-00234056-00234310 or in the room with you jhMgE7S68vE-01002-00234311-00234558 you don't dare try to sleep now you're jhMgE7S68vE-01003-00234559-00234710 too scared to jhMgE7S68vE-01004-00234711-00234958 if you doze off you might be vulnerable jhMgE7S68vE-01005-00234959-00235231 to the creatures who haunt your dreams jhMgE7S68vE-01006-00235232-00235406 that's just one more reason to have jhMgE7S68vE-01007-00235407-00235623 weird dark roast coffee in the cupboard jhMgE7S68vE-01008-00235623-00235798 because you just never know when you jhMgE7S68vE-01009-00235800-00235927 might need it jhMgE7S68vE-01010-00235928-00236119 weird dark roast coffee contains deep jhMgE7S68vE-01011-00236119-00236382 notes of cocoa caramel and a touch of jhMgE7S68vE-01012-00236383-00236575 sinister sweetness jhMgE7S68vE-01013-00236576-00236791 each bag is fresh roasted to order by jhMgE7S68vE-01014-00236792-00237023 evansville coffee and delivery is free jhMgE7S68vE-01015-00237023-00237215 for your first order just use the promo jhMgE7S68vE-01016-00237216-00237455 code weird you can find a link to it at jhMgE7S68vE-01017-00237456-00237639 weirddarkness.com jhMgE7S68vE-01018-00237640-00237903 grab a bag before something else grabs jhMgE7S68vE-01019-00237904-00238344 you from the dark jhMgE7S68vE-01020-00238346-00240439 [Music] jhMgE7S68vE-01021-00240440-00240679 emily dunn and charles durbin lived in jhMgE7S68vE-01022-00240680-00240863 vandalia illinois jhMgE7S68vE-01023-00240864-00241046 the two were not married and the couple jhMgE7S68vE-01024-00241048-00241255 would mess around and this resulted in jhMgE7S68vE-01025-00241256-00241439 emily getting pregnant jhMgE7S68vE-01026-00241440-00241655 charles would then send emily away to jhMgE7S68vE-01027-00241656-00241894 decatur illinois to have the baby he jhMgE7S68vE-01028-00241896-00242071 would tell her that she would have to jhMgE7S68vE-01029-00242071-00242279 get rid of it once it was born he would jhMgE7S68vE-01030-00242280-00242630 only marry her if the baby was gone jhMgE7S68vE-01031-00242631-00242823 emily would stay in decatur and give jhMgE7S68vE-01032-00242823-00243046 birth to a chubby red-headed baby girl jhMgE7S68vE-01033-00243048-00243287 in august of 1884. jhMgE7S68vE-01034-00243288-00243479 while in decatur and after the birth of jhMgE7S68vE-01035-00243480-00243679 her daughter emily was living with mr jhMgE7S68vE-01036-00243680-00243863 and mrs shively jhMgE7S68vE-01037-00243864-00244046 emily loved her child and it was jhMgE7S68vE-01038-00244048-00244271 noticeable to people around her but jhMgE7S68vE-01039-00244271-00244598 charles wanted the baby gone so wanting jhMgE7S68vE-01040-00244600-00244846 to be with the man she loved she tried jhMgE7S68vE-01041-00244848-00245206 several times to give her child away by jhMgE7S68vE-01042-00245207-00245542 march 7 1885 27 year old charles was jhMgE7S68vE-01043-00245544-00245782 done with 21 year old emily still having jhMgE7S68vE-01044-00245783-00245910 the baby jhMgE7S68vE-01045-00245911-00246087 in news reports it seems he called the jhMgE7S68vE-01046-00246088-00246263 baby it jhMgE7S68vE-01047-00246264-00246494 he was mad that the baby was still there jhMgE7S68vE-01048-00246496-00246694 i'll be cursed if i don't find a place jhMgE7S68vE-01049-00246696-00246927 for it he told emily before she left the jhMgE7S68vE-01050-00246928-00247063 shively's home jhMgE7S68vE-01051-00247064-00247246 he would return after nightfall and jhMgE7S68vE-01052-00247248-00247439 state that he found a home jhMgE7S68vE-01053-00247440-00247710 the three would leave the home together jhMgE7S68vE-01054-00247711-00247871 they would walk to the railroad tracks jhMgE7S68vE-01055-00247871-00248046 and would get closer to an area without jhMgE7S68vE-01056-00248048-00248342 visible homes for what emily stated she jhMgE7S68vE-01057-00248344-00248534 and charles walked to a point and he jhMgE7S68vE-01058-00248535-00248758 took the baby with him he stated that jhMgE7S68vE-01059-00248759-00248951 the family lived not much further and jhMgE7S68vE-01060-00248952-00249110 he'd take her there jhMgE7S68vE-01061-00249111-00249351 emily was unwilling but let him take her jhMgE7S68vE-01062-00249352-00249446 daughter jhMgE7S68vE-01063-00249448-00249623 he was gone for 20 minutes before jhMgE7S68vE-01064-00249623-00249775 returning jhMgE7S68vE-01065-00249776-00250006 she was crying by the time he came back jhMgE7S68vE-01066-00250007-00250167 he told her crying wouldn't help jhMgE7S68vE-01067-00250167-00250303 anything and that they wouldn't be jhMgE7S68vE-01068-00250304-00250446 bothered again jhMgE7S68vE-01069-00250448-00250655 what they didn't know is a man named jhMgE7S68vE-01070-00250656-00250927 boyd shannon saw them from a distance jhMgE7S68vE-01071-00250928-00251094 but he thought the couple was another jhMgE7S68vE-01072-00251096-00251198 neighbor jhMgE7S68vE-01073-00251200-00251455 in the time he was gone charles had jhMgE7S68vE-01074-00251456-00251703 thrown his baby girl into the river and jhMgE7S68vE-01075-00251704-00251855 let her drown jhMgE7S68vE-01076-00251856-00252079 it's unknown if emily knew that charles jhMgE7S68vE-01077-00252080-00252263 threw their daughter into the water or jhMgE7S68vE-01078-00252264-00252430 if she was an unwilling party to the jhMgE7S68vE-01079-00252431-00252527 murder jhMgE7S68vE-01080-00252528-00252839 it's believed he did this on his own jhMgE7S68vE-01081-00252840-00253015 the two would go to the humpty dumpty jhMgE7S68vE-01082-00253016-00253239 theater and then to the shively home jhMgE7S68vE-01083-00253240-00253415 stating that charles gave the baby to a jhMgE7S68vE-01084-00253416-00253639 man with the last name of smith jhMgE7S68vE-01085-00253640-00253798 that their daughter was going home with jhMgE7S68vE-01086-00253800-00253975 him to california jhMgE7S68vE-01087-00253976-00254127 they handed the baby over at the train jhMgE7S68vE-01088-00254128-00254230 depot jhMgE7S68vE-01089-00254231-00254375 now that their daughter was gone on jhMgE7S68vE-01090-00254376-00254710 march 16th the two then got married jhMgE7S68vE-01091-00254711-00254919 the body of the seven month old would jhMgE7S68vE-01092-00254919-00255094 soon be found jhMgE7S68vE-01093-00255096-00255287 emily wouldn't be prosecuted for the jhMgE7S68vE-01094-00255288-00255494 murder as she believed that he was jhMgE7S68vE-01095-00255496-00255719 giving their daughter away not murdering jhMgE7S68vE-01096-00255719-00255806 her jhMgE7S68vE-01097-00255807-00256030 it would be said that emily would regret jhMgE7S68vE-01098-00256031-00256215 giving the prosecution her letters and jhMgE7S68vE-01099-00256216-00256455 for her testimony against charles she jhMgE7S68vE-01100-00256456-00256663 was still devoted to him and loved him jhMgE7S68vE-01101-00256664-00256887 though he killed their child jhMgE7S68vE-01102-00256888-00257103 at the trial they claimed that the baby jhMgE7S68vE-01103-00257104-00257319 had to have died after the seventh due jhMgE7S68vE-01104-00257319-00257487 to decomposition jhMgE7S68vE-01105-00257488-00257623 they also claimed everything was jhMgE7S68vE-01106-00257623-00257839 circumstantial and that he could have jhMgE7S68vE-01107-00257840-00258087 given the baby away and the smith man jhMgE7S68vE-01108-00258088-00258255 murdered the child jhMgE7S68vE-01109-00258256-00258430 he was found guilty at trial though and jhMgE7S68vE-01110-00258431-00258615 was sentenced to 21 years in the jhMgE7S68vE-01111-00258616-00258758 penitentiary jhMgE7S68vE-01112-00258759-00258927 many thought for the crime he would have jhMgE7S68vE-01113-00258928-00259167 hung and was surprised with this light jhMgE7S68vE-01114-00259167-00259292 sentencing jhMgE7S68vE-01115-00259294-00260436 [Music] jhMgE7S68vE-01116-00260437-00262175 [Music] jhMgE7S68vE-01117-00262176-00262423 sitting low among the hills just north jhMgE7S68vE-01118-00262424-00262582 of the city of freyas and southern jhMgE7S68vE-01119-00262583-00262823 france not far from the french riviera jhMgE7S68vE-01120-00262824-00263063 coast are the broken remains of the jhMgE7S68vE-01121-00263064-00263263 malpassette dam jhMgE7S68vE-01122-00263264-00263551 this river barrier completed in 1954 was jhMgE7S68vE-01123-00263552-00263751 built to regulate the flow of the rayran jhMgE7S68vE-01124-00263752-00264030 river and store water for agricultural jhMgE7S68vE-01125-00264031-00264206 and domestic use jhMgE7S68vE-01126-00264207-00264503 the ray ran river is very irregular it jhMgE7S68vE-01127-00264504-00264710 remains completely dry for most of the jhMgE7S68vE-01128-00264711-00264951 year including the hot summer months but jhMgE7S68vE-01129-00264952-00265223 in winter and spring this 27 kilometer jhMgE7S68vE-01130-00265224-00265495 long river becomes a raging torrent jhMgE7S68vE-01131-00265496-00265687 a dam would help tame the river and jhMgE7S68vE-01132-00265688-00265975 provide water all year round jhMgE7S68vE-01133-00265976-00266206 andre coyne was selected to build an jhMgE7S68vE-01134-00266207-00266463 arched dam across the valley coin had jhMgE7S68vE-01135-00266464-00266639 been building dams throughout his career jhMgE7S68vE-01136-00266640-00266823 he was the chief engineer of dams in the jhMgE7S68vE-01137-00266824-00267015 upper dordone river and while in that jhMgE7S68vE-01138-00267016-00267263 position he designed the miregus dam jhMgE7S68vE-01139-00267264-00267447 which incorporated several innovative jhMgE7S68vE-01140-00267448-00267679 advancements in damn design jhMgE7S68vE-01141-00267680-00267910 in 1935 he became the head of france's jhMgE7S68vE-01142-00267911-00268110 large dam engineering department and jhMgE7S68vE-01143-00268111-00268487 between 1945 and 1953 he served as jhMgE7S68vE-01144-00268488-00268630 president of the international jhMgE7S68vE-01145-00268631-00268871 commission on large dams jhMgE7S68vE-01146-00268872-00269103 coin built dams in 14 countries jhMgE7S68vE-01147-00269104-00269343 including portugal india morocco jhMgE7S68vE-01148-00269344-00269599 zimbabwe and canada jhMgE7S68vE-01149-00269600-00269855 construction of the malpassett dam began jhMgE7S68vE-01150-00269856-00270255 in 1952 and completed in 1954. jhMgE7S68vE-01151-00270256-00270439 shortly after the first filling of the jhMgE7S68vE-01152-00270440-00270599 reservoir began jhMgE7S68vE-01153-00270600-00270839 the filling of a reservoir is a gradual jhMgE7S68vE-01154-00270840-00271039 process that can take many years jhMgE7S68vE-01155-00271040-00271239 especially when it's fed by a river that jhMgE7S68vE-01156-00271240-00271510 flows for only three months a year jhMgE7S68vE-01157-00271511-00271815 five years later in 1959 the water in jhMgE7S68vE-01158-00271816-00272030 the reservoir was still seven meters jhMgE7S68vE-01159-00272031-00272158 below the top jhMgE7S68vE-01160-00272159-00272423 when small leaks began to develop along jhMgE7S68vE-01161-00272424-00272679 the right bank of the dam an ominous jhMgE7S68vE-01162-00272680-00272951 sign of things to come jhMgE7S68vE-01163-00272952-00273143 that year the region experienced more jhMgE7S68vE-01164-00273144-00273375 than the average rains causing the water jhMgE7S68vE-01165-00273376-00273679 level to surge up by nearly 5 meters jhMgE7S68vE-01166-00273680-00273855 instead of opening the spillway to jhMgE7S68vE-01167-00273856-00274055 relieve pressure upon the dam though it jhMgE7S68vE-01168-00274056-00274303 was decided to allow the dam to fill up jhMgE7S68vE-01169-00274304-00274479 because opening the drain valves would jhMgE7S68vE-01170-00274480-00274630 have hampered the construction of the jhMgE7S68vE-01171-00274631-00274823 marseille nice motorway about a jhMgE7S68vE-01172-00274824-00275030 kilometer downstream jhMgE7S68vE-01173-00275031-00275303 on the evening of december 2 1959 the jhMgE7S68vE-01174-00275304-00275503 water levels in the dam reached the top jhMgE7S68vE-01175-00275504-00275687 of the concrete barrier for the very jhMgE7S68vE-01176-00275688-00275815 first time jhMgE7S68vE-01177-00275816-00276063 the four last meters had filled up in jhMgE7S68vE-01178-00276064-00276343 less than 24 hours jhMgE7S68vE-01179-00276344-00276558 later that night the thin walls of the jhMgE7S68vE-01180-00276559-00276806 dam collapsed under the massive weight jhMgE7S68vE-01181-00276807-00277063 of the water and a huge wave swept jhMgE7S68vE-01182-00277064-00277247 through the valley destroying all jhMgE7S68vE-01183-00277248-00277495 structures including houses roads jhMgE7S68vE-01184-00277496-00277734 railway lines telephone and electricity jhMgE7S68vE-01185-00277735-00277991 networks all the way to freya's jhMgE7S68vE-01186-00277992-00278167 large chunks of concrete from the jhMgE7S68vE-01187-00278168-00278439 breached dam some weighing up to 600 jhMgE7S68vE-01188-00278440-00278758 tons were found more than a mile away jhMgE7S68vE-01189-00278759-00279095 over 400 people perished and 7 000 were jhMgE7S68vE-01190-00279096-00279271 left homeless jhMgE7S68vE-01191-00279272-00279495 andre coyne the dam's chief engineer was jhMgE7S68vE-01192-00279496-00279727 deeply affected by the tragedy jhMgE7S68vE-01193-00279728-00279999 he died less than a year later jhMgE7S68vE-01194-00280000-00280215 the major takeaway from the disaster was jhMgE7S68vE-01195-00280216-00280399 that it was important to adequately jhMgE7S68vE-01196-00280400-00280615 understand the geology of the rocks over jhMgE7S68vE-01197-00280616-00280830 which a dam was to be constructed jhMgE7S68vE-01198-00280831-00281030 but the most immediate consequence of jhMgE7S68vE-01199-00281031-00281287 the dam failure was the laying down of a jhMgE7S68vE-01200-00281288-00281615 law that legalized marriage to a dead jhMgE7S68vE-01201-00281616-00281775 partner jhMgE7S68vE-01202-00281776-00281951 among the dead was a young man named jhMgE7S68vE-01203-00281952-00282230 andre capra who was engaged to his then jhMgE7S68vE-01204-00282231-00282487 pregnant girlfriend irene jodar jhMgE7S68vE-01205-00282488-00282679 despite the death of her partner jodar jhMgE7S68vE-01206-00282680-00282910 was determined to marry him jhMgE7S68vE-01207-00282911-00283063 when president de gaulle visited the jhMgE7S68vE-01208-00283064-00283310 town a week later irene jodar pleaded jhMgE7S68vE-01209-00283311-00283463 with him to let her go along with the jhMgE7S68vE-01210-00283464-00283663 marriage plans even though her fiance jhMgE7S68vE-01211-00283664-00283806 had drowned jhMgE7S68vE-01212-00283807-00284054 de gaulle agreed to look into the matter jhMgE7S68vE-01213-00284055-00284271 within a month the national assembly had jhMgE7S68vE-01214-00284272-00284503 passed a unique law allowing the jhMgE7S68vE-01215-00284504-00284734 president of the republic to quote jhMgE7S68vE-01216-00284735-00284903 authorize the celebration of the jhMgE7S68vE-01217-00284904-00285119 marriage if one of the future spouses is jhMgE7S68vE-01218-00285120-00285343 dead providing a sufficient gathering of jhMgE7S68vE-01219-00285344-00285558 facts establishes unequivocally his jhMgE7S68vE-01220-00285559-00285775 consent jhMgE7S68vE-01221-00285776-00286006 hundreds of widows and widowers have jhMgE7S68vE-01222-00286007-00286206 applied for post-mortem matrimony since jhMgE7S68vE-01223-00286207-00286295 then jhMgE7S68vE-01224-00286296-00286534 anyone wishing to marry a dead person jhMgE7S68vE-01225-00286535-00286758 must send a request to the president who jhMgE7S68vE-01226-00286759-00286982 then forwards it to the justice minister jhMgE7S68vE-01227-00286983-00287167 who sends it to the prosecutor in whose jhMgE7S68vE-01228-00287168-00287447 jurisdiction the surviving person lives jhMgE7S68vE-01229-00287448-00287623 if the prosecutor determines that the jhMgE7S68vE-01230-00287624-00287879 couple planned to marry before the death jhMgE7S68vE-01231-00287880-00288030 and if the parents of the deceased jhMgE7S68vE-01232-00288031-00288230 approve the prosecutor sends a jhMgE7S68vE-01233-00288231-00288463 recommendation back up the line jhMgE7S68vE-01234-00288464-00288687 the president if he wishes eventually jhMgE7S68vE-01235-00288688-00288975 signs a decree allowing the marriage jhMgE7S68vE-01236-00288976-00289247 every year even today french authorities jhMgE7S68vE-01237-00289248-00289447 receive around 50 requests for jhMgE7S68vE-01238-00289448-00289615 posthumous marriage jhMgE7S68vE-01239-00289616-00289879 about 20 get approval jhMgE7S68vE-01240-00289880-00290047 while many get married for purely jhMgE7S68vE-01241-00290048-00290319 sentimental value posthumous matrimony jhMgE7S68vE-01242-00290320-00290510 also will play a practical role if the jhMgE7S68vE-01243-00290511-00290743 woman left behind is pregnant as was the jhMgE7S68vE-01244-00290744-00290975 case with irene joe dark jhMgE7S68vE-01245-00290976-00291191 legitimizing a marriage ensures that the jhMgE7S68vE-01246-00291192-00291334 children are recognized as the jhMgE7S68vE-01247-00291335-00291503 legitimate offspring of their dead jhMgE7S68vE-01248-00291504-00291767 father and the legal heir jhMgE7S68vE-01249-00291768-00291951 indeed the practice of marrying the dead jhMgE7S68vE-01250-00291952-00292127 actually dates back to the first world jhMgE7S68vE-01251-00292128-00292343 war when grieving girlfriends wanted to jhMgE7S68vE-01252-00292344-00292543 assure legitimacy of their children jhMgE7S68vE-01253-00292544-00292703 whose fathers had died on the front jhMgE7S68vE-01254-00292704-00292975 before being able to tie the knot jhMgE7S68vE-01255-00292976-00293206 most posthumous weddings are organized jhMgE7S68vE-01256-00293207-00293471 quietly usually the woman will stand jhMgE7S68vE-01257-00293472-00293758 next to a picture of her deceased fiance jhMgE7S68vE-01258-00293759-00293934 instead of a priest the mayor will jhMgE7S68vE-01259-00293935-00294119 conduct the ceremony reading aloud the jhMgE7S68vE-01260-00294120-00294319 presidential decree instead of the jhMgE7S68vE-01261-00294320-00294534 deceased man's marriage vows jhMgE7S68vE-01262-00294535-00294719 but some marriages have drawn media jhMgE7S68vE-01263-00294720-00295039 attention in 2004 crystal de michel jhMgE7S68vE-01264-00295040-00295254 married her dead fiance who was hit by a jhMgE7S68vE-01265-00295255-00295487 drunken driver and killed while he was jhMgE7S68vE-01266-00295488-00295734 riding his motorcycle home from work jhMgE7S68vE-01267-00295735-00296023 in 2009 magali jaskewicz married her jhMgE7S68vE-01268-00296024-00296358 fiance another victim of a road accident jhMgE7S68vE-01269-00296359-00296558 magaly jaskuwick's boyfriend who had jhMgE7S68vE-01270-00296559-00296758 asked her to marry him two days before jhMgE7S68vE-01271-00296759-00296903 he was killed jhMgE7S68vE-01272-00296904-00297134 again in 2017 when a police officer jhMgE7S68vE-01273-00297135-00297358 xavier giugelli died in a terrorist jhMgE7S68vE-01274-00297359-00297599 attack his longtime partner etienne jhMgE7S68vE-01275-00297600-00297782 cardials received the president's jhMgE7S68vE-01276-00297783-00297982 approval to marry him jhMgE7S68vE-01277-00297983-00298199 outside of france there have only been a jhMgE7S68vE-01278-00298200-00298439 handful of cases where the law has jhMgE7S68vE-01279-00298440-00299806 upheld posthumous marriages 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firm jhMgE7S68vE-01322-00308800-00309015 let nothing move you always give jhMgE7S68vE-01323-00309016-00309206 yourselves fully to the work of the lord jhMgE7S68vE-01324-00309207-00309367 because you know that your labor in the jhMgE7S68vE-01325-00309368-00309758 lord is not in vain and a final thought jhMgE7S68vE-01326-00309759-00309903 from buddha jhMgE7S68vE-01327-00309904-00310119 there isn't enough darkness in all the jhMgE7S68vE-01328-00310120-00310382 world to snuff out the light of one jhMgE7S68vE-01329-00310383-00310623 little candle jhMgE7S68vE-01330-00310624-00310782 i'm darren marlar jhMgE7S68vE-01331-00310783-00310982 thanks for joining me in the weird jhMgE7S68vE-01332-00310983-00311335 darkness jhMgE7S68vE-01333-00311336-00312030 [Music] jhMgE7S68vE-01334-00312031-00312327 yet all of this was about to change and jhMgE7S68vE-01335-00312328-00312454 the occupant jhMgE7S68vE-01336-00312455-00312703 and the opulent ss morrow jhMgE7S68vE-01337-00312704-00312982 yet all of this was about to change jhMgE7S68vE-01338-00312983-00313380 and the occupant and jhaONP7A3DY-00000-00000008-00000279 spacex the company that is owned and jhaONP7A3DY-00001-00000280-00000487 operated by elon musk you may have heard jhaONP7A3DY-00002-00000488-00000767 of them spacex they had some kind of i jhaONP7A3DY-00003-00000768-00000943 don't know like a rocket booster jhaONP7A3DY-00004-00000944-00001231 separation or something was out in space jhaONP7A3DY-00005-00001232-00001423 and it was coming back into space i jhaONP7A3DY-00006-00001424-00001639 don't know what happened but it created jhaONP7A3DY-00007-00001639-00001830 a sonic boom jhaONP7A3DY-00008-00001832-00002023 so uh i got the flashlight i sleep with jhaONP7A3DY-00009-00002023-00002215 a big i have a lot of like weapons and jhaONP7A3DY-00010-00002216-00002431 stuff by my bed same uh and one of them jhaONP7A3DY-00011-00002432-00002599 is like a big mag light which you can jhaONP7A3DY-00012-00002600-00002863 use to illuminate the darkness and also jhaONP7A3DY-00013-00002864-00003079 pummel an intruder uh it should it's jhaONP7A3DY-00014-00003080-00003286 like you know multi and multi-family jhaONP7A3DY-00015-00003288-00003454 kind of flashlight it's huge it's like jhaONP7A3DY-00016-00003455-00003695 20 pounds it's like it's like four feet jhaONP7A3DY-00017-00003696-00003990 long it takes like 19 double d size jhaONP7A3DY-00018-00003992-00004199 batteries wait is double d a size of a jhaONP7A3DY-00019-00004200-00004383 battery no d size batteries i'm thinking jhaONP7A3DY-00020-00004384-00004559 of something else and jhaONP7A3DY-00021-00004560-00004711 what happens is you hit the button and jhaONP7A3DY-00022-00004712-00004983 it illuminates the entire sky and then jhaONP7A3DY-00023-00004984-00005127 when you see the perpetrator you just jhaONP7A3DY-00024-00005128-00005279 spin it around you can clock in them on jhaONP7A3DY-00025-00005280-00005399 the head it's like a it's like taking a jhaONP7A3DY-00026-00005400-00005511 louisville slugger or something it's jhaONP7A3DY-00027-00005512-00005686 amazing anyway there's not an this is jhaONP7A3DY-00028-00005687-00005943 not an endorsement for maglite it's just jhaONP7A3DY-00029-00005944-00006151 me describing the situation so i go jhaONP7A3DY-00030-00006152-00006406 outside first and i look on the roof and jhaONP7A3DY-00031-00006408-00006567 i look everywhere and i'm like i don't jhaONP7A3DY-00032-00006568-00006878 see it nothing fell on the roof and then jhaONP7A3DY-00033-00006879-00007214 i go inside and i go check my kids rooms jhaONP7A3DY-00034-00007215-00007367 and like maybe they fell out of bed or jhaONP7A3DY-00035-00007368-00007631 something and i'm like what is going on jhaONP7A3DY-00036-00007631-00007806 what was that sound i have no idea but jhaONP7A3DY-00037-00007808-00008087 clearly everyone's okay so um i wake up jhaONP7A3DY-00038-00008088-00008214 this morning i'm listening to the news jhaONP7A3DY-00039-00008215-00008391 on the way to take my kids to school and jhaONP7A3DY-00040-00008392-00008646 the newscaster here on wlkv guy named jhaONP7A3DY-00041-00008647-00009014 rich jones said that it was a sonic jhaONP7A3DY-00042-00009015-00009119 boom jhaONP7A3DY-00043-00009120-00009264 a sonic boom jhaONP7A3DY-00044-00009265-00009471 [Music] jhaONP7A3DY-00045-00009472-00009614 sounded almost jhaONP7A3DY-00046-00009615-00009806 actually sounded nothing like that but jhaONP7A3DY-00047-00009807-00009991 that's what it was it was a sonic boom jhaONP7A3DY-00048-00009992-00010151 and i thought to myself oh my gosh is jhaONP7A3DY-00049-00010152-00010359 that what a that's what a sonic boom jhaONP7A3DY-00050-00010360-00010599 sounds like and and you know and again jhaONP7A3DY-00051-00010600-00010774 at first because my wife was like what jhaONP7A3DY-00052-00010775-00010974 is that if it's not a tree if it's not jhaONP7A3DY-00053-00010975-00011167 the kids falling out of bed what could jhaONP7A3DY-00054-00011168-00011335 that possibly be and i'll be honest with jhaONP7A3DY-00055-00011336-00011567 you i did i said to her i said you know jhaONP7A3DY-00056-00011568-00011655 maybe jhaONP7A3DY-00057-00011656-00011838 maybe since we were watching the jaguar jhaONP7A3DY-00058-00011839-00012046 game right the jaguars from jacksonville jhaONP7A3DY-00059-00012047-00012246 were playing the cincinnati bengals and jhaONP7A3DY-00060-00012247-00012423 i know we have a lot of bengals fans jhaONP7A3DY-00061-00012424-00012599 listening in dayton i know we have a lot jhaONP7A3DY-00062-00012600-00012767 of jacksonville fans listening in jhaONP7A3DY-00063-00012768-00012902 jaguars i know we have a lot of people jhaONP7A3DY-00064-00012903-00013094 in jaguar land what are we jacksonville jhaONP7A3DY-00065-00013095-00013238 and i know i know we have a lot of jhaONP7A3DY-00066-00013240-00013463 people who just hate all football all jhaONP7A3DY-00067-00013463-00013599 together so jhaONP7A3DY-00068-00013600-00013711 you wouldn't be interested but since we jhaONP7A3DY-00069-00013712-00013894 were watching the jaguar game i turned jhaONP7A3DY-00070-00013895-00014215 to my wife when we heard the noise jhaONP7A3DY-00071-00014216-00014391 she said what is that i said i think jhaONP7A3DY-00072-00014391-00014591 that's the jacksonville jaguars hopes of jhaONP7A3DY-00073-00014591-00014894 winning like plummeting back to earth jhaONP7A3DY-00074-00014895-00015015 that's good because that typically jhaONP7A3DY-00075-00015016-00015199 happens yeah but but you know then i jhaONP7A3DY-00076-00015200-00015303 thought you know what it could have been jhaONP7A3DY-00077-00015304-00015415 there's other things it could have been jhaONP7A3DY-00078-00015416-00015566 for example it could have been ron jhaONP7A3DY-00079-00015568-00015775 desantis dropping the hammer on mask jhaONP7A3DY-00080-00015776-00016127 mandates jhaONP7A3DY-00081-00016128-00016294 that could have been uh that sound we jhaONP7A3DY-00082-00016295-00016422 heard last night laying back could have jhaONP7A3DY-00083-00016423-00016583 been joe biden's approval numbers jhaONP7A3DY-00084-00016584-00016799 crashing back down jhaONP7A3DY-00085-00016800-00016967 because they fall i mean that's how fast jhaONP7A3DY-00086-00016968-00017175 they fall and when they fall they hit jhaONP7A3DY-00087-00017176-00017343 they hit hard it could also been joe jhaONP7A3DY-00088-00017344-00017567 biden trying to walk up the stairs jhaONP7A3DY-00089-00017568-00017814 [Music] jhaONP7A3DY-00090-00017815-00017983 he has trouble jhaONP7A3DY-00091-00017984-00018183 could have been hunter biden falling off jhaONP7A3DY-00092-00018184-00018308 the wagon jhaONP7A3DY-00093-00018309-00018486 [Music] jhaONP7A3DY-00094-00018487-00018703 did he hit rock bottom oh rocky and then jhaONP7A3DY-00095-00018704-00018958 he smoked the rock yeah at the bottom uh jhaONP7A3DY-00096-00018959-00019150 it could have been aoc dropping to her jhaONP7A3DY-00097-00019151-00019319 knees and crying about israel still jhaONP7A3DY-00098-00019320-00019886 being a country jhaONP7A3DY-00099-00019887-00020063 uh it could have been nancy pelosi jhaONP7A3DY-00100-00020064-00020214 hitting the floor after finishing an jhaONP7A3DY-00101-00020215-00020382 entire fifth of belvedere jhaONP7A3DY-00102-00020383-00020814 [Music] jhaONP7A3DY-00103-00020815-00020950 it could have been it could have been jhaONP7A3DY-00104-00020951-00021200 tiger woods taking a turn too fast jhaONP7A3DY-00105-00021201-00021478 [Music] jhaONP7A3DY-00106-00021479-00021647 but i'd hear any screeching tires i knew jhaONP7A3DY-00107-00021648-00021887 it wasn't jiZgS9n7dIU-00000-00000060-00001327 [Music] jiZgS9n7dIU-00001-00001328-00001909 foreign jiZgS9n7dIU-00002-00001910-00002656 [Music] jiZgS9n7dIU-00003-00002657-00003590 [Music] jiZgS9n7dIU-00004-00003592-00004000 so jiZgS9n7dIU-00005-00004001-00006079 [Music] jiZgS9n7dIU-00006-00006080-00006317 oh jiZgS9n7dIU-00008-00009533-00010276 [Music] jiZgS9n7dIU-00009-00010277-00010567 [Music] jiZgS9n7dIU-00010-00010568-00010857 me jiZgS9n7dIU-00011-00010858-00013694 [Music] jiZgS9n7dIU-00012-00013695-00013936 oh jiZgS9n7dIU-00014-00017152-00017895 [Music] jiZgS9n7dIU-00016-00021448-00021656 you jkUBZBxcHVI-00000-00000000-00000238 hey guys welcome back to explainer X jkUBZBxcHVI-00001-00000239-00000503 today I'm going to recap a 2011 romance jkUBZBxcHVI-00002-00000504-00000784 comedy movie name turn me on so let's jkUBZBxcHVI-00003-00000785-00000977 begin the beginning of the movie takes jkUBZBxcHVI-00004-00000977-00001204 place in a small town in Norway this jkUBZBxcHVI-00005-00001205-00001378 town is situated in the middle of the jkUBZBxcHVI-00006-00001379-00001589 forest so there is not much to do here jkUBZBxcHVI-00007-00001590-00001829 in this town we see a girl named Alma jkUBZBxcHVI-00008-00001830-00002057 just getting bigger that's why he has a jkUBZBxcHVI-00009-00002058-00002284 lot of sexual desires that's why she jkUBZBxcHVI-00010-00002285-00002459 also does phone sex by calling the jkUBZBxcHVI-00011-00002460-00002705 hotline every day one day Alma used to jkUBZBxcHVI-00012-00002706-00002915 pleasure herself in such a house and jkUBZBxcHVI-00013-00002916-00003089 then his mom comes back from her work jkUBZBxcHVI-00014-00003090-00003281 hearing the sound of her mom's arrival jkUBZBxcHVI-00015-00003282-00003527 Alma immediately puts on her clothes and jkUBZBxcHVI-00016-00003528-00003779 Alma sits down to read coming home his jkUBZBxcHVI-00017-00003779-00003959 mom sees the phone lying on the ground jkUBZBxcHVI-00018-00003960-00004235 and then she asks Alma about it so Alma jkUBZBxcHVI-00019-00004236-00004499 makes up an excuse after this Alma goes jkUBZBxcHVI-00020-00004500-00004697 to walk her dog then she meets a boy jkUBZBxcHVI-00021-00004698-00004906 named Artur who was going in that jkUBZBxcHVI-00022-00004907-00005135 direction our tour actually attends jkUBZBxcHVI-00023-00005136-00005327 Alma's school and he is a very popular jkUBZBxcHVI-00024-00005328-00005585 boy Alma has a long-standing crush on jkUBZBxcHVI-00025-00005586-00005759 our tour and Alma makes herself a jkUBZBxcHVI-00026-00005760-00005963 pleasure by imagining him all my dreams jkUBZBxcHVI-00027-00005964-00006197 every day day that our tour secretly jkUBZBxcHVI-00028-00006198-00006400 comes to his room at night and then the jkUBZBxcHVI-00029-00006401-00006605 two get intimate but it was just Alma's jkUBZBxcHVI-00030-00006606-00006814 dream and actually our tour didn't even jkUBZBxcHVI-00031-00006815-00007060 talk to Alma properly because Alma was jkUBZBxcHVI-00032-00007061-00007277 not that popular in school then two of jkUBZBxcHVI-00033-00007278-00007505 Alma's friends are shown whose names are jkUBZBxcHVI-00034-00007506-00007733 Ingrid and Sarah actually Alma that jkUBZBxcHVI-00035-00007734-00007931 these two friends are sisters and then jkUBZBxcHVI-00036-00007931-00008092 all three of them board the school bus jkUBZBxcHVI-00037-00008093-00008327 and go to school a few days later there jkUBZBxcHVI-00038-00008328-00008555 is a party in which our tour was also jkUBZBxcHVI-00039-00008556-00008777 going to come Alma gets a new dress to jkUBZBxcHVI-00040-00008778-00008987 go to the party she starts dreaming of jkUBZBxcHVI-00041-00008988-00009221 our tour again that at the party she and jkUBZBxcHVI-00042-00009222-00009371 our tour will talk and be with each jkUBZBxcHVI-00043-00009372-00009617 other forever in the evening Alma goes jkUBZBxcHVI-00044-00009618-00009791 to the party with her friends at the jkUBZBxcHVI-00045-00009792-00010024 party our tour was seeing Alma over and jkUBZBxcHVI-00046-00010025-00010253 over again and Alma loves seeing this jkUBZBxcHVI-00047-00010254-00010492 that her Crush our tour is also noticing jkUBZBxcHVI-00048-00010493-00010751 her Alma then picks up a drink and goes jkUBZBxcHVI-00049-00010752-00011009 outside to drink and our tour also comes jkUBZBxcHVI-00050-00011010-00011219 here after him and takes out his penis jkUBZBxcHVI-00051-00011220-00011423 and pokes it to Alma all this is very jkUBZBxcHVI-00052-00011424-00011621 pleasing to Alma and she goes to the jkUBZBxcHVI-00053-00011622-00011795 bathroom and starts giving pleasure to jkUBZBxcHVI-00054-00011796-00011987 herself after that when she comes out jkUBZBxcHVI-00055-00011988-00012245 out so tell her friends about this that jkUBZBxcHVI-00056-00012246-00012503 our tour poked her with his penis Alma's jkUBZBxcHVI-00057-00012504-00012713 other friend Ingrid loved our tour very jkUBZBxcHVI-00058-00012714-00012935 much and Ingrid Alma doesn't like this jkUBZBxcHVI-00059-00012936-00013175 at all she tells Alma that you must be jkUBZBxcHVI-00060-00013176-00013403 dreaming and you're lying then our tour jkUBZBxcHVI-00061-00013404-00013649 also comes here and Ingrid asks him jkUBZBxcHVI-00062-00013650-00013858 whether you really poked Alma to which jkUBZBxcHVI-00063-00013859-00014116 our tour refuses now because our tour jkUBZBxcHVI-00064-00014118-00014315 was the most popular boy in the school jkUBZBxcHVI-00065-00014316-00014561 that's why they all accept his word and jkUBZBxcHVI-00066-00014562-00014765 Alma turns out to be a liar the next jkUBZBxcHVI-00067-00014766-00014975 morning Ingrid visits Alma at her house jkUBZBxcHVI-00068-00014976-00015191 there she talks seductively with Alma jkUBZBxcHVI-00069-00015191-00015407 while applying lip gloss and then both jkUBZBxcHVI-00070-00015408-00015616 of them start making out but then we jkUBZBxcHVI-00071-00015618-00015827 find out that in reality Alma was jkUBZBxcHVI-00072-00015828-00016049 dreaming again and Ingrid just came here jkUBZBxcHVI-00073-00016050-00016265 to get her lip gloss and then Ingrid jkUBZBxcHVI-00074-00016266-00016475 angrily leaves from here the next day jkUBZBxcHVI-00075-00016476-00016691 when Alma Goes to School see the whole jkUBZBxcHVI-00076-00016692-00016972 class knew that Alma lied that our tour jkUBZBxcHVI-00077-00016973-00017200 poked him although Alma was telling the jkUBZBxcHVI-00078-00017201-00017447 truth no one believed her words and all jkUBZBxcHVI-00079-00017448-00017633 the people together start making fun of jkUBZBxcHVI-00080-00017634-00017830 Alma even her two friends stopped jkUBZBxcHVI-00081-00017831-00018035 talking to Alma and Alma became comes jkUBZBxcHVI-00082-00018036-00018299 all alone at school gradually Alma also jkUBZBxcHVI-00083-00018300-00018479 gets away from all this and she stops jkUBZBxcHVI-00084-00018480-00018665 making a difference and she starts jkUBZBxcHVI-00085-00018666-00018827 smoking cigarettes to handle this jkUBZBxcHVI-00086-00018828-00019061 situation then one day while coming home jkUBZBxcHVI-00087-00019062-00019294 from school alma gets off the bus in the jkUBZBxcHVI-00088-00019295-00019475 middle of the way and then she looks jkUBZBxcHVI-00089-00019476-00019721 that our tour has also got off the bus jkUBZBxcHVI-00090-00019722-00019991 and our tour comes to Alma and our tour jkUBZBxcHVI-00091-00019992-00020230 tells Alma that he likes her very much jkUBZBxcHVI-00092-00020231-00020500 after this Alma takes our tour to her jkUBZBxcHVI-00093-00020501-00020686 house and there they both get intimate jkUBZBxcHVI-00094-00020687-00020927 but then we find out that all this has jkUBZBxcHVI-00095-00020928-00021143 not happened rather it was simply almost jkUBZBxcHVI-00096-00021144-00021371 imagining and she got off the bus alone jkUBZBxcHVI-00097-00021372-00021629 a few days later there is also a musical jkUBZBxcHVI-00098-00021630-00021857 in the school in which no one calls Alma jkUBZBxcHVI-00099-00021858-00022061 and she just watches these secretly from jkUBZBxcHVI-00100-00022062-00022294 the window she also tries to talk to her jkUBZBxcHVI-00101-00022295-00022486 friend in school but no one wanted to jkUBZBxcHVI-00102-00022487-00022721 talk to him Sarah another friend of Alma jkUBZBxcHVI-00103-00022722-00022978 sees all this then it feels much worse jkUBZBxcHVI-00104-00022979-00023213 than that actually Sarah's character in jkUBZBxcHVI-00105-00023214-00023441 this movie is also very complicated and jkUBZBxcHVI-00106-00023442-00023644 she does a lot of weird things she jkUBZBxcHVI-00107-00023645-00023849 writes letters to those prisoners those jkUBZBxcHVI-00108-00023850-00024047 who are going to be hanged soon soon and jkUBZBxcHVI-00109-00024048-00024257 it is his hobby to do so and this time jkUBZBxcHVI-00110-00024258-00024443 she writes the story of Alma in the jkUBZBxcHVI-00111-00024444-00024599 letter and when she goes to put that jkUBZBxcHVI-00112-00024600-00024833 letter in the letterbox so a boy named jkUBZBxcHVI-00113-00024834-00025061 kajardin comes and meets Sarah the one jkUBZBxcHVI-00114-00025062-00025294 who studied in the same class kajardin jkUBZBxcHVI-00115-00025295-00025499 used to like Sarah for a long time but jkUBZBxcHVI-00116-00025500-00025684 Sarah was never attracted towards any jkUBZBxcHVI-00117-00025685-00025894 boy now a few days later the telephone jkUBZBxcHVI-00118-00025895-00026140 bill arrives at Alma's house which was jkUBZBxcHVI-00119-00026141-00026411 too much Alma's mom asks her who does jkUBZBxcHVI-00120-00026412-00026662 she talk to so much on which Alma tells jkUBZBxcHVI-00121-00026663-00026873 her mom the truth that she has phone sex jkUBZBxcHVI-00122-00026874-00027143 hearing this his mother gets very angry jkUBZBxcHVI-00123-00027144-00027401 so Alma tells him that she will pay this jkUBZBxcHVI-00124-00027402-00027640 bill by earning money herself after this jkUBZBxcHVI-00125-00027641-00027917 Sarah comes and meets Alma she tells him jkUBZBxcHVI-00126-00027918-00028145 that she is also his friend but the two jkUBZBxcHVI-00127-00028145-00028337 of them would not talk at school from jkUBZBxcHVI-00128-00028338-00028558 the next day Alma starts working as a jkUBZBxcHVI-00129-00028560-00028793 cashier in a shop and then Alma starts jkUBZBxcHVI-00130-00028794-00028943 dreaming of being intimate with the jkUBZBxcHVI-00131-00028944-00029195 owner here as well now Alma was facing a jkUBZBxcHVI-00132-00029195-00029368 lot of problems because of our tours jkUBZBxcHVI-00133-00029369-00029596 lying so she meets our tour and speaks jkUBZBxcHVI-00134-00029597-00029783 to him admitted in front of all of you jkUBZBxcHVI-00135-00029783-00030023 that you poke me that day but are too or jkUBZBxcHVI-00136-00030024-00030293 flatly refuses to do so and Alma leaves jkUBZBxcHVI-00137-00030294-00030496 from their disappointed there is also a jkUBZBxcHVI-00138-00030497-00030670 girl's birthday in the class on the same jkUBZBxcHVI-00139-00030672-00030923 day and that except Alma invites jkUBZBxcHVI-00140-00030924-00031102 everyone to the party the next day jkUBZBxcHVI-00141-00031104-00031307 kajartin recites the poem to Sarah jkUBZBxcHVI-00142-00031308-00031577 hearing the poem Sarah also falls in jkUBZBxcHVI-00143-00031577-00031799 love with kajardin here in the shop if jkUBZBxcHVI-00144-00031800-00031996 her owner does not talk to Alma properly jkUBZBxcHVI-00145-00031997-00032249 then she understands that Ingrid must jkUBZBxcHVI-00146-00032250-00032411 have told all his things to the shop jkUBZBxcHVI-00147-00032412-00032573 owner because Ingrid is the daughter of jkUBZBxcHVI-00148-00032574-00032758 the shop owner then when Alma was jkUBZBxcHVI-00149-00032760-00032933 cleaning the magazine shelf of the store jkUBZBxcHVI-00150-00032934-00033161 then his eyes go to the adult magazine jkUBZBxcHVI-00151-00033162-00033365 and she starts falling for him then jkUBZBxcHVI-00152-00033366-00033574 Sarah comes to meet him and tells her jkUBZBxcHVI-00153-00033575-00033779 that she has started liking kajardin jkUBZBxcHVI-00154-00033780-00034007 after this Alma throws that magazine in jkUBZBxcHVI-00155-00034008-00034217 the Dustbin and she goes for a walk with jkUBZBxcHVI-00156-00034218-00034421 Sarah the next morning the shop owner jkUBZBxcHVI-00157-00034422-00034571 finds it in the Dustbin of the adult jkUBZBxcHVI-00158-00034572-00034823 magazine so he calls Alma's mom and jkUBZBxcHVI-00159-00034824-00035033 tells her that Alma has tried to steal jkUBZBxcHVI-00160-00035034-00035267 an adult magazine to which his mom says jkUBZBxcHVI-00161-00035268-00035459 this that Alma has a mental problem jkUBZBxcHVI-00162-00035460-00035705 that's why she is doing all this then jkUBZBxcHVI-00163-00035706-00035921 Alma's mom requests from the shop owner jkUBZBxcHVI-00164-00035922-00036118 that he should not fire her from the job jkUBZBxcHVI-00165-00036119-00036395 after this when Alma comes home her mom jkUBZBxcHVI-00166-00036396-00036640 scolds her a lot the next day Sarah jkUBZBxcHVI-00167-00036641-00036862 meets Alma in the school bathroom and jkUBZBxcHVI-00168-00036863-00037090 speaks that you have to bring our tour's jkUBZBxcHVI-00169-00037091-00037324 truth in front of everyone otherwise you jkUBZBxcHVI-00170-00037325-00037474 will be treated like this for the rest jkUBZBxcHVI-00171-00037475-00037727 of your life hearing this Alma becomes jkUBZBxcHVI-00172-00037728-00037961 motivated after some time Ingrid tells jkUBZBxcHVI-00173-00037962-00038123 Sarah that I know that you were meeting jkUBZBxcHVI-00174-00038124-00038429 Alma in silence to which Sarah says that jkUBZBxcHVI-00175-00038430-00038705 Alma is not false and may that our tour jkUBZBxcHVI-00176-00038706-00039011 has lied after this Sarah also tells jkUBZBxcHVI-00177-00039012-00039227 this to Ingrid that from now on she jkUBZBxcHVI-00178-00039228-00039395 would talk to Alma at school as well jkUBZBxcHVI-00179-00039396-00039640 here Alma again calls the hotline and jkUBZBxcHVI-00180-00039641-00039857 having talked for so long the man on the 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Anger she goes to our tour's house on jkUBZBxcHVI-00195-00042930-00043145 foot and tells her to confess that you jkUBZBxcHVI-00196-00043146-00043355 poke me that day our tour initially jkUBZBxcHVI-00197-00043356-00043673 refuses but later he agrees he says Alma jkUBZBxcHVI-00198-00043674-00043883 that I lied because I don't like you and jkUBZBxcHVI-00199-00043884-00044057 I already have a girlfriend and that's jkUBZBxcHVI-00200-00044058-00044230 why I will never admit to school that I jkUBZBxcHVI-00201-00044231-00044452 poked you because it will spoil my image jkUBZBxcHVI-00202-00044453-00044771 now hearing this Elma feels very bad and jkUBZBxcHVI-00203-00044772-00044974 she leaves from their crying after this jkUBZBxcHVI-00204-00044975-00045179 Alma leaves for the city instead of jkUBZBxcHVI-00205-00045180-00045412 going to her home by bus Alma felt that jkUBZBxcHVI-00206-00045413-00045587 our tour would miss her if she suddenly jkUBZBxcHVI-00207-00045588-00045833 disappeared Alma goes to Sarah's eldest jkUBZBxcHVI-00208-00045834-00046018 sister Maria in the city who was jkUBZBxcHVI-00209-00046019-00046277 studying here she tells Alma that she is jkUBZBxcHVI-00210-00046278-00046493 busy now and she will talk to Alma in jkUBZBxcHVI-00211-00046494-00046690 the evening here Alma's Mom starts jkUBZBxcHVI-00212-00046691-00046883 worrying about her she asks her neighbor jkUBZBxcHVI-00213-00046884-00047099 about Alma sue the neighbor tells her jkUBZBxcHVI-00214-00047100-00047302 that he had seen Alma in the bus going jkUBZBxcHVI-00215-00047303-00047495 to the city then the neighbor asks jkUBZBxcHVI-00216-00047496-00047674 Alma's mom don't you know what happened jkUBZBxcHVI-00217-00047675-00047867 to Alma at the party that day on which jkUBZBxcHVI-00218-00047868-00048071 Alma's mom says that I don't know jkUBZBxcHVI-00219-00048072-00048257 anything about the party then she then jkUBZBxcHVI-00220-00048258-00048443 tells the neighbor Alma's mom about what jkUBZBxcHVI-00221-00048444-00048640 happened to Alma and our tour here in jkUBZBxcHVI-00222-00048641-00048839 the evening Alma tells Maria and her jkUBZBxcHVI-00223-00048840-00049043 friends what is wrong with him hearing jkUBZBxcHVI-00224-00049044-00049246 this Maria and her friends encourage jkUBZBxcHVI-00225-00049247-00049462 Alma and then they all party at night jkUBZBxcHVI-00226-00049463-00049715 Maria gets a call from Alma's mom and jkUBZBxcHVI-00227-00049716-00049936 she tells him that Alma is with them and jkUBZBxcHVI-00228-00049937-00050129 he doesn't have to worry the next day jkUBZBxcHVI-00229-00050130-00050345 Alma's mom brings her back home from the jkUBZBxcHVI-00230-00050346-00050579 city and now Alma was feeling very good jkUBZBxcHVI-00231-00050580-00050849 his mom tells Alma that in this vacation jkUBZBxcHVI-00232-00050850-00051089 those people are going to Paris Alma jkUBZBxcHVI-00233-00051090-00051323 notices that Mom is now paying more jkUBZBxcHVI-00234-00051324-00051563 attention to Alma because of this she is jkUBZBxcHVI-00235-00051564-00051790 very happy that night our tour comes to jkUBZBxcHVI-00236-00051791-00052001 meet Alma at her house and tells Alma jkUBZBxcHVI-00237-00052002-00052246 that I lied to you actually I like you a jkUBZBxcHVI-00238-00052247-00052451 lot but we can't stay together in school jkUBZBxcHVI-00239-00052452-00052666 because it would bring disrepute to me jkUBZBxcHVI-00240-00052667-00052907 hearing this Alma tells our tour to jkUBZBxcHVI-00241-00052908-00053141 leave because now he didn't care the jkUBZBxcHVI-00242-00053141-00053321 next day Alma and Sarah go to school jkUBZBxcHVI-00243-00053322-00053537 together and at school Ingrid also jkUBZBxcHVI-00244-00053538-00053753 starts talking to Alma Alma looks at the jkUBZBxcHVI-00245-00053754-00053957 school gate that our tour had put up a jkUBZBxcHVI-00246-00053958-00054179 big Banner on which it was written that jkUBZBxcHVI-00247-00054179-00054437 I poked Alma with my penis our tour had jkUBZBxcHVI-00248-00054438-00054604 admitted his mistake in front of the jkUBZBxcHVI-00249-00054605-00054791 whole school and Alma is very happy jkUBZBxcHVI-00250-00054791-00055042 seeing this and she forgives our tour as jkUBZBxcHVI-00251-00055044-00055282 well in the evening our tour also goes jkUBZBxcHVI-00252-00055283-00055463 to Alma's house for dinner and they both jkUBZBxcHVI-00253-00055464-00055709 started dating now and in the end Alma jkUBZBxcHVI-00254-00055710-00055919 her mom and our Tour all three are happy jkUBZBxcHVI-00255-00055920-00056171 and movie ends here I hope you enjoyed jkUBZBxcHVI-00256-00056172-00056380 the video so click any video of three of jkUBZBxcHVI-00257-00056382-00056573 them and enjoy next please don't forget jkUBZBxcHVI-00258-00056574-00056776 to subscribe our Channel and please like jkUBZBxcHVI-00259-00056777-00056969 the video and tell us in the comment how jkUBZBxcHVI-00260-00056970-00057308 you like the video I see you soon jm6ooE_rr1k-00000-00000000-00000034 [Music] jm6ooE_rr1k-00001-00000035-00000374 we reveal the challenges behind sex in jm6ooE_rr1k-00002-00000375-00000866 space met Steve Alexei two highly jm6ooE_rr1k-00003-00000867-00001070 experienced astronauts assigned on a jm6ooE_rr1k-00004-00001071-00001387 three-year space expedition after months jm6ooE_rr1k-00005-00001388-00001598 of isolation in extremely close quarters jm6ooE_rr1k-00006-00001599-00001843 and with no privacy the inevitable jm6ooE_rr1k-00007-00001844-00002108 happens the first sex experiment in jm6ooE_rr1k-00008-00002109-00002534 space takes place being weightless in jm6ooE_rr1k-00009-00002535-00002798 space inspires Steve and Lexi to try new jm6ooE_rr1k-00010-00002799-00003085 creative positions however physics jm6ooE_rr1k-00011-00003086-00003335 immediately takes over and they struggle jm6ooE_rr1k-00012-00003336-00003754 to stick together when Steve gives 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jnOSWJ8s86k-00003-00000608-00000759 makes it so unique why do the tour jnOSWJ8s86k-00004-00000760-00000958 players love this head so much well i'm jnOSWJ8s86k-00005-00000959-00001047 going to show you we'll see how this jnOSWJ8s86k-00006-00001048-00001343 thing flies let's go hit some balls jnOSWJ8s86k-00007-00001344-00001527 welcome to the world of wonder let the jnOSWJ8s86k-00008-00001528-00001718 games begin oh this thing's awesome it's jnOSWJ8s86k-00009-00001719-00001902 actually a lot of fun to hit this is mr jnOSWJ8s86k-00010-00001903-00002087 phil nicholson phil nice to meet you i jnOSWJ8s86k-00011-00002088-00002215 know a lot about your bag how much do jnOSWJ8s86k-00012-00002216-00002350 you know about your own not as much as jnOSWJ8s86k-00013-00002351-00002526 you hey that's a good reason to put an jnOSWJ8s86k-00014-00002527-00002695 iron in your bag there's so much that jnOSWJ8s86k-00015-00002696-00002895 goes seem to adjust in the golf club you jnOSWJ8s86k-00016-00002896-00003303 see that jnOSWJ8s86k-00017-00003304-00003470 okay so we got jnOSWJ8s86k-00018-00003471-00003735 the tour special triple diamond ls jnOSWJ8s86k-00019-00003736-00003886 jason felicitas what do you notice about jnOSWJ8s86k-00020-00003887-00004095 the triple diamond heads in general so jnOSWJ8s86k-00021-00004096-00004231 typically this is going to be for the jnOSWJ8s86k-00022-00004232-00004399 player that wants to see it move to the jnOSWJ8s86k-00023-00004400-00004567 right and a little bit more fade bias jnOSWJ8s86k-00024-00004568-00004791 there okay also typically a player like jnOSWJ8s86k-00025-00004792-00004959 that also wants to reduce the spin jnOSWJ8s86k-00026-00004960-00005135 because those fades typically spin more jnOSWJ8s86k-00027-00005136-00005335 so reducing the spin give you the same jnOSWJ8s86k-00028-00005336-00005486 ball speed distance that you're looking jnOSWJ8s86k-00029-00005487-00005622 for but letting it fall more to the jnOSWJ8s86k-00030-00005623-00005806 right side okay so we already did our jnOSWJ8s86k-00031-00005807-00005951 baseline in the first video we're going jnOSWJ8s86k-00032-00005952-00006151 to pop those numbers up on the screen of jnOSWJ8s86k-00033-00006152-00006367 my gamer driver for everybody that asked jnOSWJ8s86k-00034-00006368-00006567 me in the friday q and a's jnOSWJ8s86k-00035-00006568-00006710 about what's the most fade biased jnOSWJ8s86k-00036-00006711-00006863 callaway driver jnOSWJ8s86k-00037-00006864-00007046 it's this one so this one's set up jnOSWJ8s86k-00038-00007047-00007270 exactly like my gamer because that's jnOSWJ8s86k-00039-00007272-00007455 what my gamer is just the epic speed jnOSWJ8s86k-00040-00007456-00007687 version i'm excited to hit this one so jnOSWJ8s86k-00041-00007688-00007806 we're gonna do it here's the five shots jnOSWJ8s86k-00042-00007808-00008167 we're gonna hit one stock a draw a fade jnOSWJ8s86k-00043-00008168-00008735 and a couple of bombs jnOSWJ8s86k-00044-00008736-00009039 okay hit that one good i love that one jnOSWJ8s86k-00045-00009040-00009206 i think the long little launch on that jnOSWJ8s86k-00046-00009207-00009303 thing jnOSWJ8s86k-00047-00009304-00009471 nothing got up there didn't it yeah it jnOSWJ8s86k-00048-00009472-00009671 looks like it was close to 15 and a half jnOSWJ8s86k-00049-00009672-00009846 degrees on that one okay so we got the jnOSWJ8s86k-00050-00009847-00010087 stock one down let's hit a draw even jnOSWJ8s86k-00051-00010088-00010191 though that one draw a little bit let's jnOSWJ8s86k-00052-00010192-00010367 see if i can hit kind of a jnOSWJ8s86k-00053-00010368-00010814 more of a draw jnOSWJ8s86k-00054-00010815-00011103 okay i like that one so did i so this is jnOSWJ8s86k-00055-00011104-00011295 the thing about all these drivers so far jnOSWJ8s86k-00056-00011296-00011423 since we've been testing them that was jnOSWJ8s86k-00057-00011424-00011551 thin jnOSWJ8s86k-00058-00011552-00011814 it got up and it didn't over spin jnOSWJ8s86k-00059-00011815-00011910 correct jnOSWJ8s86k-00060-00011911-00012110 yeah i'm digging that jnOSWJ8s86k-00061-00012111-00012287 i'm into that jnOSWJ8s86k-00062-00012288-00012455 okay let's see if we can hit a little jnOSWJ8s86k-00063-00012456-00012727 cutter jnOSWJ8s86k-00064-00012728-00012871 i gotta really think my way through this jnOSWJ8s86k-00065-00012872-00013007 shot because god knows i can't hit a jnOSWJ8s86k-00066-00013008-00013230 fade but jnOSWJ8s86k-00067-00013231-00014127 one of these days i will jnOSWJ8s86k-00068-00014128-00014319 i like that one jnOSWJ8s86k-00069-00014319-00014471 it's kind of a pool jnOSWJ8s86k-00070-00014472-00014663 cut right there how are the numbers on jnOSWJ8s86k-00071-00014663-00014951 that one numbers look really good 157 jnOSWJ8s86k-00072-00014952-00015271 ball speed uh 2500 on the spin so didn't jnOSWJ8s86k-00073-00015272-00015447 see it ramp up as much even as we saw jnOSWJ8s86k-00074-00015447-00015615 with the ls driver oh that's great a jnOSWJ8s86k-00075-00015616-00015775 little bit out of the heel too jnOSWJ8s86k-00076-00015776-00016038 yep and all three of those shots pretty jnOSWJ8s86k-00077-00016040-00016255 straight yeah i'll take that dispersion jnOSWJ8s86k-00078-00016256-00016455 right they're all pretty much yeah yeah jnOSWJ8s86k-00079-00016456-00016583 yeah yeah jnOSWJ8s86k-00080-00016584-00016735 i like the way this thing looks this has jnOSWJ8s86k-00081-00016736-00016903 got a little bit different shape than jnOSWJ8s86k-00082-00016904-00017063 the other heads of the rogue st max kind jnOSWJ8s86k-00083-00017064-00017207 of a tour shape jnOSWJ8s86k-00084-00017208-00017335 we'll call it jnOSWJ8s86k-00085-00017336-00017422 all right jay i'm going to try and hit jnOSWJ8s86k-00086-00017423-00017591 one hard we got to hit that 160 again jnOSWJ8s86k-00087-00017592-00018183 sounds good jnOSWJ8s86k-00088-00018184-00018407 that was bombed like to see that little jnOSWJ8s86k-00089-00018408-00018567 little fall to the right look at that jnOSWJ8s86k-00090-00018568-00018791 thing jnOSWJ8s86k-00091-00018792-00019039 okay jnOSWJ8s86k-00092-00019040-00019343 there's your 160 ball yeah boy 2 500. i jnOSWJ8s86k-00093-00019344-00019439 love it jnOSWJ8s86k-00094-00019440-00019550 all right let's see if we can i'm going jnOSWJ8s86k-00095-00019551-00019686 to do something stupid here folks i'm jnOSWJ8s86k-00096-00019687-00019807 going to try and hit this one as like jnOSWJ8s86k-00097-00019808-00019935 literally as hard as i can i'm actually jnOSWJ8s86k-00098-00019936-00020167 gonna line up and try to hit it jnOSWJ8s86k-00099-00020168-00020471 all right here we go wide stance jnOSWJ8s86k-00100-00020472-00020822 see if i can actually turn my shoulders jnOSWJ8s86k-00101-00020823-00021078 triple diamond ls last ball i'm gonna jnOSWJ8s86k-00102-00021079-00021527 try and crank on one jnOSWJ8s86k-00103-00021528-00021719 love that jnOSWJ8s86k-00104-00021720-00022191 just a big high jnOSWJ8s86k-00105-00022192-00022367 how's that one jnOSWJ8s86k-00106-00022368-00022575 solid strike there ball speed was up at jnOSWJ8s86k-00107-00022576-00022878 160 2100 on the backspin 15 degrees in jnOSWJ8s86k-00108-00022879-00023039 launch right in the sweet spot for where jnOSWJ8s86k-00109-00023040-00023239 you like to see it so we had rogue st jnOSWJ8s86k-00110-00023240-00023550 max st max d the ls and the triple jnOSWJ8s86k-00111-00023551-00023750 diamond of the four heads jnOSWJ8s86k-00112-00023751-00023991 what's the best one for me based on what jnOSWJ8s86k-00113-00023992-00024167 we were seeing that utensil has slightly jnOSWJ8s86k-00114-00024168-00024350 turned the ball over i really like this jnOSWJ8s86k-00115-00024351-00024535 last driver the triple diamond ls for jnOSWJ8s86k-00116-00024536-00024878 you okay rogue st max triple diamond ls jnOSWJ8s86k-00117-00024879-00025071 it's the most fade bias driver that we jnOSWJ8s86k-00118-00025072-00025286 have it's the lowest spin profile that jnOSWJ8s86k-00119-00025287-00025550 we have it's for your better player your jnOSWJ8s86k-00120-00025551-00025743 amateur or somebody that hits a right to jnOSWJ8s86k-00121-00025744-00025950 left shot that's looking to neutralize a jnOSWJ8s86k-00122-00025951-00026127 draw i hope that was all informative for jnOSWJ8s86k-00123-00026127-00026311 you but if you want all the information jnOSWJ8s86k-00124-00026312-00026518 go to callawaygolf.com world of wonder jnOSWJ8s86k-00125-00026519-00026743 i'm stoked on these drivers i'm stoked jnOSWJ8s86k-00126-00026744-00026918 it's johnny wonder jnOSWJ8s86k-00127-00026919-00027252 we're out of here k24bRpmYmd4-00000-00000071-00000342 hey guys and welcome to the stinky hands k24bRpmYmd4-00001-00000343-00000526 podcast this is going to be our first k24bRpmYmd4-00002-00000527-00000623 episode k24bRpmYmd4-00003-00000624-00000966 starring cold oats and second star k24bRpmYmd4-00004-00000967-00001127 without further ado let's get into the k24bRpmYmd4-00005-00001128-00001374 podcast so k24bRpmYmd4-00006-00001375-00001734 opinions on applebee's [__] k24bRpmYmd4-00007-00001735-00002102 it's absolute garbage their food is k24bRpmYmd4-00008-00002103-00002175 either k24bRpmYmd4-00009-00002176-00002423 [__] undercooked or overcooked either k24bRpmYmd4-00010-00002424-00002479 it's as k24bRpmYmd4-00011-00002480-00002823 [__] hard as a soul of a shoe k24bRpmYmd4-00012-00002824-00003343 or [__] flaccid like my [__] k24bRpmYmd4-00013-00003344-00003559 last time my dad ordered applebee's he k24bRpmYmd4-00014-00003560-00003727 got these he's got these uh these k24bRpmYmd4-00015-00003728-00003870 mozzarella sticks right k24bRpmYmd4-00016-00003871-00004111 and they have breading on the outside k24bRpmYmd4-00017-00004112-00004231 and quote unquote k24bRpmYmd4-00018-00004232-00004527 mozzarella cheese on the inside as if k24bRpmYmd4-00019-00004528-00004711 you could even call it cheap bro it's k24bRpmYmd4-00020-00004712-00004902 just welcome k24bRpmYmd4-00021-00004903-00005359 it really is just come but k24bRpmYmd4-00022-00005360-00005606 my dad ate it i i felt fine after k24bRpmYmd4-00023-00005607-00005879 reading it i mean not not really fine k24bRpmYmd4-00024-00005880-00006183 fine as if like you just got beat around k24bRpmYmd4-00025-00006184-00006351 the head with a [__] club k24bRpmYmd4-00026-00006352-00006598 but my dad was like throwing up for the k24bRpmYmd4-00027-00006600-00006767 rest of the night i'm glad i didn't do k24bRpmYmd4-00028-00006768-00006814 that k24bRpmYmd4-00029-00006815-00007031 but i know i didn't sleep because i was k24bRpmYmd4-00030-00007031-00007278 in a [__] cold sweat because of these k24bRpmYmd4-00031-00007279-00007663 shitty ass mozzarella sticks um k24bRpmYmd4-00032-00007664-00007959 but this reminds me of the last time i k24bRpmYmd4-00033-00007959-00008271 went to applebee's k24bRpmYmd4-00034-00008272-00008583 i had to use the restroom k24bRpmYmd4-00035-00008584-00008927 because it took my dad 45 minutes to get k24bRpmYmd4-00036-00008928-00009023 his food k24bRpmYmd4-00037-00009024-00009159 because they just wouldn't serve it to k24bRpmYmd4-00038-00009160-00009591 him so i went to the bathroom k24bRpmYmd4-00039-00009592-00009983 and there was just a puddle of piss k24bRpmYmd4-00040-00009984-00010310 around the bottom of the toilet k24bRpmYmd4-00041-00010311-00010446 you ever had a bad experience in k24bRpmYmd4-00042-00010447-00010646 applebee's bathroom yeah k24bRpmYmd4-00043-00010647-00010974 the one that's nearest to my school it's k24bRpmYmd4-00044-00010975-00011206 so [__] horrible the bathroom is so k24bRpmYmd4-00045-00011207-00011335 dirty and like k24bRpmYmd4-00046-00011336-00011623 the stall like doors or wood and i swear k24bRpmYmd4-00047-00011624-00011774 to [__] god someone smeared [__] on k24bRpmYmd4-00048-00011775-00011942 that one time it's not true but k24bRpmYmd4-00049-00011943-00012127 it literally smells like [__] in that k24bRpmYmd4-00050-00012128-00012367 bathroom every single time k24bRpmYmd4-00051-00012368-00012863 damn yeah this reminds me of something k24bRpmYmd4-00052-00012863-00013183 i was no i usually don't do this but k24bRpmYmd4-00053-00013184-00013430 i i just couldn't bring myself to sit k24bRpmYmd4-00054-00013431-00013535 down k24bRpmYmd4-00055-00013536-00013894 on the toilet and i had to stand and it k24bRpmYmd4-00056-00013895-00014030 didn't feel right k24bRpmYmd4-00057-00014031-00014215 but something that i heard on twitter k24bRpmYmd4-00058-00014216-00014407 about like one or two weeks ago or k24bRpmYmd4-00059-00014408-00014575 something like that was k24bRpmYmd4-00060-00014576-00014799 apparently some people just stand up to k24bRpmYmd4-00061-00014800-00015183 [__] what the [__] k24bRpmYmd4-00062-00015184-00015679 uh you can leave a comment k24bRpmYmd4-00063-00015680-00015958 whether you sit or stand when you take a k24bRpmYmd4-00064-00015959-00016127 [__] if you stand i'm gonna block your k24bRpmYmd4-00065-00016128-00016263 ass what the [__] k24bRpmYmd4-00066-00016263-00016439 but there have been very few times where k24bRpmYmd4-00067-00016440-00016622 i've actually stood to take a [__] k24bRpmYmd4-00068-00016623-00016830 either either you're in the woods k24bRpmYmd4-00069-00016831-00017022 or i guess you're in an applebee's k24bRpmYmd4-00070-00017023-00017222 bathroom because i wasn't i wasn't k24bRpmYmd4-00071-00017223-00017263 really k24bRpmYmd4-00072-00017264-00017430 interested in catching gonorrhea from k24bRpmYmd4-00073-00017431-00017694 that toilet but um k24bRpmYmd4-00074-00017695-00017943 after that i immediately went to wash my k24bRpmYmd4-00075-00017944-00018047 hands k24bRpmYmd4-00076-00018048-00018239 uh not trusting the water at all so i k24bRpmYmd4-00077-00018240-00018414 washed my hands when i got home too but k24bRpmYmd4-00078-00018415-00018679 i found a penny on the applebee's k24bRpmYmd4-00079-00018680-00018967 bathroom sink k24bRpmYmd4-00080-00018968-00019214 that [__] must be [__] got some kind k24bRpmYmd4-00081-00019215-00019335 of disease on there k24bRpmYmd4-00082-00019336-00019622 yeah because when i when i use the tap k24bRpmYmd4-00083-00019623-00019807 it wasn't clear water i mean it had like k24bRpmYmd4-00084-00019808-00019911 a very faint k24bRpmYmd4-00085-00019912-00020111 green tint to it what the [__] it k24bRpmYmd4-00086-00020112-00020286 literally looked like [__] water k24bRpmYmd4-00087-00020287-00020550 uh oh like the like the the color of the k24bRpmYmd4-00088-00020551-00020758 water that was also in the toilet k24bRpmYmd4-00089-00020759-00021086 oh no that's uh it looked like k24bRpmYmd4-00090-00021087-00021286 they had recycled the water from the k24bRpmYmd4-00091-00021287-00021391 toilet k24bRpmYmd4-00092-00021392-00021767 and put it into the sink k24bRpmYmd4-00093-00021768-00022014 but speaking of [__] water have you k24bRpmYmd4-00094-00022015-00022294 heard about what's going on in texas k24bRpmYmd4-00095-00022295-00022607 bro they had the massive like snowstorm k24bRpmYmd4-00096-00022608-00022967 and it shut down their filtering um k24bRpmYmd4-00097-00022968-00023175 plants so they weren't able to filter k24bRpmYmd4-00098-00023176-00023286 the tap water k24bRpmYmd4-00099-00023287-00023703 so they had [__] brain eating amoebas k24bRpmYmd4-00100-00023704-00023950 in in their water and had to uh everyone k24bRpmYmd4-00101-00023951-00024103 had to boil their water k24bRpmYmd4-00102-00024104-00024342 for i don't remember how long but it was k24bRpmYmd4-00103-00024343-00024519 horrible because some six-year-old kid k24bRpmYmd4-00104-00024520-00024735 um drank the water and died because of k24bRpmYmd4-00105-00024736-00024919 the oh really i didn't hear about that k24bRpmYmd4-00106-00024920-00024991 that's crazy k24bRpmYmd4-00107-00024992-00025255 yeah i got [__] murked why why did k24bRpmYmd4-00108-00025256-00025311 they k24bRpmYmd4-00109-00025312-00025527 uh have to filter their water again k24bRpmYmd4-00110-00025528-00025678 because there wasn't like a massive snow k24bRpmYmd4-00111-00025679-00025822 it's like the biggest north star and k24bRpmYmd4-00112-00025823-00025990 snowstorm in texas k24bRpmYmd4-00113-00025991-00026118 and who knows how long i don't remember k24bRpmYmd4-00114-00026119-00026367 how long it was but it was a while ago k24bRpmYmd4-00115-00026368-00026487 it was massive and it k24bRpmYmd4-00116-00026488-00026814 [__] up everything yeah uh k24bRpmYmd4-00117-00026816-00027070 i it's it's crazy to me that there can k24bRpmYmd4-00118-00027072-00027214 be snow in texas k24bRpmYmd4-00119-00027216-00027358 because i mean we've never seen it k24bRpmYmd4-00120-00027360-00027558 before it's actually crazy k24bRpmYmd4-00121-00027560-00027839 um but the funny thing about that is one k24bRpmYmd4-00122-00027839-00028079 of my favorite youtubers jay schlatt k24bRpmYmd4-00123-00028080-00028390 just so happened to move to texas k24bRpmYmd4-00124-00028391-00028718 during the storm oh god k24bRpmYmd4-00125-00028719-00029151 uh now j [__] k24bRpmYmd4-00126-00029152-00029502 um when he was in k24bRpmYmd4-00127-00029504-00029902 texas he went to a mcdonald's k24bRpmYmd4-00128-00029904-00030183 after a few days of only eating beef k24bRpmYmd4-00129-00030183-00030511 jerky as he claims k24bRpmYmd4-00130-00030512-00030887 and he claims that there was a line k24bRpmYmd4-00131-00030888-00031046 going straight to the mcdonald's that k24bRpmYmd4-00132-00031047-00031311 wasn't moving for hours k24bRpmYmd4-00133-00031312-00031623 and he went to the front of the line and k24bRpmYmd4-00134-00031624-00031758 there was just a dude k24bRpmYmd4-00135-00031760-00032079 sitting there and he asked the guy what k24bRpmYmd4-00136-00032080-00032143 are you doing k24bRpmYmd4-00137-00032144-00032462 and he said i i don't know i've k24bRpmYmd4-00138-00032463-00033102 they haven't responded in a while k24bRpmYmd4-00139-00033103-00033399 and the only thing i could think was at k24bRpmYmd4-00140-00033400-00033462 least k24bRpmYmd4-00141-00033463-00033956 it wasn't applebee's k24bRpmYmd4-00142-00033957-00034626 [Music] k24bRpmYmd4-00143-00034627-00036087 [Music] k24bRpmYmd4-00144-00036088-00036296 you k2jEtKRmDQM-00000-00000048-00002894 okay k2jEtKRmDQM-00001-00002895-00004319 [Music] k2jEtKRmDQM-00002-00004320-00004670 service to in uh in back invention k2jEtKRmDQM-00003-00004671-00005470 uh to try new future okay yes k2jEtKRmDQM-00006-00018080-00021078 so k2jEtKRmDQM-00007-00021079-00021303 restaurant this k2jEtKRmDQM-00008-00021304-00021507 what i mean digital marketing that k2jEtKRmDQM-00009-00021508-00021743 is a google ad okay i'm in google and k2jEtKRmDQM-00010-00021744-00021814 the k2jEtKRmDQM-00011-00021815-00022086 uh digital marketing service okay k2jEtKRmDQM-00012-00022087-00022343 digital 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k6uoagpdxzo-00019-00006071-00006556 from 2009 to 2016. we knew from the k6uoagpdxzo-00020-00006558-00006748 outset that we would not be able to k6uoagpdxzo-00021-00006750-00006995 publish every one of the letters because k6uoagpdxzo-00022-00006995-00007192 there are more than sixteen thousand of k6uoagpdxzo-00023-00007193-00007264 them k6uoagpdxzo-00024-00007265-00007589 that we had consulted and transcribed to k6uoagpdxzo-00025-00007590-00007805 prepare the selected Edition k6uoagpdxzo-00026-00007806-00008081 indeed the published letters amount only k6uoagpdxzo-00027-00008081-00008339 about 25 percent of the letters k6uoagpdxzo-00028-00008340-00008483 consulted k6uoagpdxzo-00029-00008484-00008819 yet the letters form a unique Corpus of k6uoagpdxzo-00030-00008820-00009119 writing itself a major literary effort k6uoagpdxzo-00031-00009120-00009401 they described the narrative Arc of k6uoagpdxzo-00032-00009402-00009671 Samuel Beckett's work including writing k6uoagpdxzo-00033-00009672-00009928 and translating as well as directing k6uoagpdxzo-00034-00009929-00010205 productions for the theater radio film k6uoagpdxzo-00035-00010206-00010385 and television k6uoagpdxzo-00036-00010386-00010606 the letters reveal the author's k6uoagpdxzo-00037-00010607-00010924 self-perceptions the young writer faces k6uoagpdxzo-00038-00010925-00011224 discouragement and insecurity the mature k6uoagpdxzo-00039-00011225-00011519 writer expresses the fear that he has k6uoagpdxzo-00040-00011520-00011777 written himself out k6uoagpdxzo-00041-00011778-00012046 the letters also reflect cultural and k6uoagpdxzo-00042-00012047-00012414 social changes of 60 years k6uoagpdxzo-00043-00012415-00012796 1929-1989 in Ireland France England and k6uoagpdxzo-00044-00012797-00013133 Germany where he lived and worked as his k6uoagpdxzo-00045-00013134-00013361 work became widely known it touched even k6uoagpdxzo-00046-00013362-00013649 broader International audiences k6uoagpdxzo-00047-00013650-00013925 ours has been a long research Journey it k6uoagpdxzo-00048-00013926-00014279 began in 1985 when Samuel Beckett asked k6uoagpdxzo-00049-00014280-00014633 Martha fazenfeld to edit his letters and k6uoagpdxzo-00050-00014634-00014801 approved my involvement as assistant k6uoagpdxzo-00051-00014802-00015005 editor k6uoagpdxzo-00052-00015006-00015269 when we first met him in Paris at a k6uoagpdxzo-00053-00015269-00015580 small table over even smaller cups of k6uoagpdxzo-00054-00015581-00015935 coffee he said you will get round and k6uoagpdxzo-00055-00015936-00016205 see these people won't you k6uoagpdxzo-00056-00016206-00016517 yes indeed we would and we did for this k6uoagpdxzo-00057-00016518-00016786 was not a rhetorical question although k6uoagpdxzo-00058-00016787-00017033 we have done intense archival research k6uoagpdxzo-00059-00017034-00017255 to prepare the addition of the letters k6uoagpdxzo-00060-00017256-00017477 of Samuel Beckett we took Samuel k6uoagpdxzo-00061-00017478-00017777 Beckett's advice and found even richer k6uoagpdxzo-00062-00017778-00018017 Avenues of memory in the people we met k6uoagpdxzo-00063-00018018-00018299 through the project k6uoagpdxzo-00064-00018300-00018527 while it was Beckett's wish we not k6uoagpdxzo-00065-00018528-00018713 published the letters until after his k6uoagpdxzo-00066-00018714-00018953 death this was hardly a restriction k6uoagpdxzo-00067-00018954-00019229 because many years of work lay ahead of k6uoagpdxzo-00068-00019230-00019300 us k6uoagpdxzo-00069-00019301-00019522 at the beginning we had only a few k6uoagpdxzo-00070-00019523-00019775 glimpses of the eventual magnitude of k6uoagpdxzo-00071-00019776-00019877 the project k6uoagpdxzo-00072-00019878-00020111 even though ours was a selected edition k6uoagpdxzo-00073-00020112-00020458 of letters chosen from over 16 000 k6uoagpdxzo-00074-00020459-00020680 letters consulted we did have to k6uoagpdxzo-00075-00020681-00020908 transcribe and often annotate each k6uoagpdxzo-00076-00020909-00021143 letter that we consulted k6uoagpdxzo-00077-00021144-00021461 sometimes Beckett's handwriting is k6uoagpdxzo-00078-00021462-00021617 merely a scroll k6uoagpdxzo-00079-00021618-00021917 so transcriptions are required if only k6uoagpdxzo-00080-00021918-00022127 to be sure that we are all looking at k6uoagpdxzo-00081-00022128-00022319 the same common text k6uoagpdxzo-00082-00022320-00022522 as we edited the letters of Samuel k6uoagpdxzo-00083-00022523-00022727 Beckett we did not chase down an answer k6uoagpdxzo-00084-00022728-00022919 for every question that the letter is k6uoagpdxzo-00085-00022920-00023230 posed but we did gather a good deal of k6uoagpdxzo-00086-00023231-00023428 information that brought three k6uoagpdxzo-00087-00023429-00023741 dimensions to the relationships events k6uoagpdxzo-00088-00023742-00024064 by Beckett's letters we also filled a k6uoagpdxzo-00089-00024065-00024335 great many file cabinets k6uoagpdxzo-00090-00024336-00024707 so now nearly 40 years from 1985 and k6uoagpdxzo-00091-00024708-00024964 four volumes later our offices in k6uoagpdxzo-00092-00024965-00025222 Atlanta are filled with research that k6uoagpdxzo-00093-00025223-00025528 undergirds both what has been published k6uoagpdxzo-00094-00025529-00025775 and that supports the transcriptions of k6uoagpdxzo-00095-00025776-00025972 all the letters consulted k6uoagpdxzo-00096-00025973-00026212 this brings us to the issue k6uoagpdxzo-00097-00026213-00026417 what to do with it all k6uoagpdxzo-00098-00026418-00026668 the Beckett project has the most k6uoagpdxzo-00099-00026669-00026861 complete collection of his letters k6uoagpdxzo-00100-00026862-00027102 anywhere in photocopy and transcription k6uoagpdxzo-00101-00027104-00027574 however we only own our editorial work k6uoagpdxzo-00102-00027575-00027868 ERS are unusual in that they have two k6uoagpdxzo-00103-00027869-00028133 owners the first the copyright holder k6uoagpdxzo-00104-00028133-00028361 either the Beckett estate or the writer k6uoagpdxzo-00105-00028362-00028673 of a document and two the recipient or k6uoagpdxzo-00106-00028674-00028924 owner of the letter itself k6uoagpdxzo-00107-00028925-00029170 so to publish letters permission is k6uoagpdxzo-00108-00029172-00029452 required from both owners the residual k6uoagpdxzo-00109-00029454-00029674 copies of documents and mountains of k6uoagpdxzo-00110-00029675-00029939 research materials gathered and kept in k6uoagpdxzo-00111-00029939-00030208 the Beckett offices actually belong to k6uoagpdxzo-00112-00030210-00030389 others and cannot be used without k6uoagpdxzo-00113-00030389-00030568 permission k6uoagpdxzo-00114-00030569-00030845 this is constitutes what is called a k6uoagpdxzo-00115-00030845-00031061 gray archive k6uoagpdxzo-00116-00031062-00031295 so the key question we asked ourselves k6uoagpdxzo-00117-00031295-00031618 was this within the ethical and legal k6uoagpdxzo-00118-00031619-00031864 principles that adhere k6uoagpdxzo-00119-00031866-00032074 what can be done to preserve such k6uoagpdxzo-00120-00032075-00032351 materials and their context so that they k6uoagpdxzo-00121-00032352-00032633 can be useful to Future generations of k6uoagpdxzo-00122-00032633-00032890 readers and Scholars k6uoagpdxzo-00123-00032891-00033179 well we quickly dismissed a funeral pyre k6uoagpdxzo-00124-00033180-00033424 in the parking lot we also reluctantly k6uoagpdxzo-00125-00033425-00033767 but realistically resisted embarking on k6uoagpdxzo-00126-00033768-00034151 another 35 year journey to publish quote k6uoagpdxzo-00127-00034152-00034481 it all Quote even had the estate been k6uoagpdxzo-00128-00034482-00034745 willing and the audience ready there are k6uoagpdxzo-00129-00034746-00034931 human limits k6uoagpdxzo-00130-00034932-00035140 while we understood that most archives k6uoagpdxzo-00131-00035141-00035452 collect originals and not copies we also k6uoagpdxzo-00132-00035453-00035674 realized that boxes of uncataloged k6uoagpdxzo-00133-00035675-00035999 materials accessed out of context would k6uoagpdxzo-00134-00036000-00036251 not be very helpful to Future research k6uoagpdxzo-00135-00036252-00036515 the digital world offered some good k6uoagpdxzo-00136-00036516-00036623 options k6uoagpdxzo-00137-00036624-00036899 our first concern was to preserve the k6uoagpdxzo-00138-00036900-00037151 record of Beckett letters consulted and k6uoagpdxzo-00139-00037152-00037439 transcribed we decided to create a k6uoagpdxzo-00140-00037440-00037667 location register of Samuel Beckett's k6uoagpdxzo-00141-00037668-00037865 letters k6uoagpdxzo-00142-00037866-00038068 this was the first step toward k6uoagpdxzo-00143-00038069-00038279 preservation of the cumulative knowledge k6uoagpdxzo-00144-00038280-00038477 of the project k6uoagpdxzo-00145-00038478-00038680 the editorial project of the Beckett k6uoagpdxzo-00146-00038681-00039005 letters maintained document control with k6uoagpdxzo-00147-00039006-00039268 an internal database which we have k6uoagpdxzo-00148-00039269-00039605 repurposed and regularized to facilitate k6uoagpdxzo-00149-00039606-00039724 searching k6uoagpdxzo-00150-00039725-00039983 the result is an open access database k6uoagpdxzo-00151-00039984-00040199 that describes each letter in public k6uoagpdxzo-00152-00040200-00040321 archive k6uoagpdxzo-00153-00040322-00040589 bibliographically with data that is k6uoagpdxzo-00154-00040590-00040852 reusable the Gladys Delmas Foundation k6uoagpdxzo-00155-00040853-00041123 has supported this effort k6uoagpdxzo-00156-00041124-00041309 we have worked very closely with k6uoagpdxzo-00157-00041310-00041507 archives around the world to confirm k6uoagpdxzo-00158-00041508-00041767 descriptive information for the letters k6uoagpdxzo-00159-00041768-00042107 this collaboration with archives on k6uoagpdxzo-00160-00042108-00042359 location register has already improved k6uoagpdxzo-00161-00042360-00042545 the documentation in archival k6uoagpdxzo-00162-00042546-00042809 collections and has even led to the k6uoagpdxzo-00163-00042810-00043012 discovery of new letters k6uoagpdxzo-00164-00043013-00043271 the location register describes letters k6uoagpdxzo-00165-00043272-00043577 individually at item level not just as k6uoagpdxzo-00166-00043578-00043733 part of a collection k6uoagpdxzo-00167-00043734-00043961 identification of materials by k6uoagpdxzo-00168-00043962-00044135 collection of course offers the k6uoagpdxzo-00169-00044136-00044489 advantage of an immediate context but it k6uoagpdxzo-00170-00044490-00044699 provides only one context for a k6uoagpdxzo-00171-00044700-00044908 relationship or a partnership between k6uoagpdxzo-00172-00044909-00045215 two people whereas in real life there k6uoagpdxzo-00173-00045216-00045358 are great many k6uoagpdxzo-00174-00045359-00045611 moreover letters to a single recipient k6uoagpdxzo-00175-00045612-00045905 may be scattered among archives and even k6uoagpdxzo-00176-00045906-00046090 parts of letters have shown up in k6uoagpdxzo-00177-00046091-00046277 different repositories k6uoagpdxzo-00178-00046278-00046552 for example enclosures are separated k6uoagpdxzo-00179-00046553-00046823 from a letter from which with which they k6uoagpdxzo-00180-00046824-00047002 were originally sent k6uoagpdxzo-00181-00047003-00047237 one of the goals one of the first goals k6uoagpdxzo-00182-00047238-00047411 of the location register of Samuel k6uoagpdxzo-00183-00047412-00047668 Beckett's letters is to get all the k6uoagpdxzo-00184-00047669-00048202 pieces back together k6uoagpdxzo-00185-00048203-00048418 ownership of Samuel Beckett's letters k6uoagpdxzo-00186-00048419-00048640 still is shifting from private to public k6uoagpdxzo-00187-00048641-00048899 archives letters continue to be k6uoagpdxzo-00188-00048900-00049205 discovered and consulted over 500 new k6uoagpdxzo-00189-00049206-00049433 letters were found within six months k6uoagpdxzo-00190-00049434-00049637 after the editors closed the book on k6uoagpdxzo-00191-00049638-00049799 volume 4. k6uoagpdxzo-00192-00049800-00050008 the Beckett letters project is well k6uoagpdxzo-00193-00050009-00050165 poised to continue the collection k6uoagpdxzo-00194-00050166-00050452 process and merge new materials with k6uoagpdxzo-00195-00050453-00050633 letters already consulted and k6uoagpdxzo-00196-00050634-00050915 transcribed the location register will k6uoagpdxzo-00197-00050916-00051161 also guide future scholarship by k6uoagpdxzo-00198-00051162-00051454 identifying widely dispersed and largely k6uoagpdxzo-00199-00051455-00051652 unpublished materials k6uoagpdxzo-00200-00051653-00051844 thus establishing an essential k6uoagpdxzo-00201-00051845-00052144 foundation for new scholarship in the k6uoagpdxzo-00202-00052145-00052385 literature and culture of the 20th k6uoagpdxzo-00203-00052386-00052637 century in short it will preserve the k6uoagpdxzo-00204-00052638-00052942 legacy of the letters in open access to k6uoagpdxzo-00205-00052944-00053230 them for all the interactive index of k6uoagpdxzo-00206-00053232-00053380 Samuel Beckett's letters in public k6uoagpdxzo-00207-00053382-00053632 archive does not provide the text of the k6uoagpdxzo-00208-00053633-00053891 letters but it makes the metadata of his k6uoagpdxzo-00209-00053891-00054113 letters more accessible to a wider k6uoagpdxzo-00210-00054114-00054329 audience it builds on the purpose and k6uoagpdxzo-00211-00054329-00054592 principles of the location register and k6uoagpdxzo-00212-00054594-00054875 adds context it provides a searchable k6uoagpdxzo-00213-00054876-00055163 digital index of each letter the data is k6uoagpdxzo-00214-00055164-00055399 curated and enhanced with chronologies k6uoagpdxzo-00215-00055400-00055709 profiles major recipients filmed k6uoagpdxzo-00216-00055710-00055997 interviews and advanced search capacity k6uoagpdxzo-00217-00055998-00056297 the goal is to invite new inquiry it k6uoagpdxzo-00218-00056298-00056482 will not replace the work in archives k6uoagpdxzo-00219-00056483-00056788 but rather guided and help students and k6uoagpdxzo-00220-00056789-00057191 Scholars Focus their research k6uoagpdxzo-00221-00057191-00057491 the database provides access to Rich k6uoagpdxzo-00222-00057491-00057719 linked and nuanced data from the k6uoagpdxzo-00223-00057720-00057971 contents of each Beckett letter k6uoagpdxzo-00224-00057972-00058235 all letters have been tagged to create a k6uoagpdxzo-00225-00058236-00058469 searchable database sortable in the k6uoagpdxzo-00226-00058470-00058738 following ways Beckett's Reading Writing k6uoagpdxzo-00227-00058739-00059050 translating and directing persons k6uoagpdxzo-00228-00059051-00059291 mentioned Publications Productions k6uoagpdxzo-00229-00059291-00059573 places and organizations k6uoagpdxzo-00230-00059574-00059837 Beckett's attendance at sporting events k6uoagpdxzo-00231-00059838-00060197 exhibitions plays concerts whether in k6uoagpdxzo-00232-00060198-00060491 person on radio or on TV k6uoagpdxzo-00233-00060491-00060737 references in the letters to artworks k6uoagpdxzo-00234-00060738-00060994 music and world events k6uoagpdxzo-00235-00060995-00061235 this metadata will allow users to k6uoagpdxzo-00236-00061236-00061438 discover patterns and interrelationships k6uoagpdxzo-00237-00061439-00061691 and thus will give future students and k6uoagpdxzo-00238-00061691-00061997 Scholars a myriad of starting points for k6uoagpdxzo-00239-00061998-00062275 their own research in archives k6uoagpdxzo-00240-00062276-00062554 even when Samuel Beckett is not the k6uoagpdxzo-00241-00062555-00062885 director or the translator of record we k6uoagpdxzo-00242-00062886-00063161 know when a letter shows him writing or k6uoagpdxzo-00243-00063162-00063371 directing or translating k6uoagpdxzo-00244-00063372-00063592 and Link this to the production or the k6uoagpdxzo-00245-00063594-00063797 work at his publication k6uoagpdxzo-00246-00063798-00064109 and the participle is important here k6uoagpdxzo-00247-00064110-00064391 because letters record the process k6uoagpdxzo-00248-00064391-00064582 while there are major Beckett archival k6uoagpdxzo-00249-00064583-00064859 resources of manuscript drafts and k6uoagpdxzo-00250-00064860-00065116 directing notes it's the letters that k6uoagpdxzo-00251-00065117-00065392 record the struggle and experiment that k6uoagpdxzo-00252-00065394-00065615 happens while writing to his directors k6uoagpdxzo-00253-00065616-00065867 Beckett expresses the need to see a play k6uoagpdxzo-00254-00065868-00066341 on stage in order to know if it works in k6uoagpdxzo-00255-00066342-00066593 letters Beckett shares his doubts and k6uoagpdxzo-00256-00066594-00066821 disappointments as well as his k6uoagpdxzo-00257-00066822-00067097 discoveries as a writer k6uoagpdxzo-00258-00067098-00067385 who will use this information k6uoagpdxzo-00259-00067386-00067613 students Scholars directors actors k6uoagpdxzo-00260-00067614-00067841 readers and persons with an interest in k6uoagpdxzo-00261-00067842-00068125 the fields of art music film theater k6uoagpdxzo-00262-00068126-00068356 publishing and even Sports in popular k6uoagpdxzo-00263-00068357-00068591 entertainment in short the letters of k6uoagpdxzo-00264-00068592-00068776 Samuel Beckett provide a particular k6uoagpdxzo-00265-00068777-00069263 survey of 60 years 1929 to 1989 with k6uoagpdxzo-00266-00069264-00069503 broad appeal a period of significant k6uoagpdxzo-00267-00069504-00069899 cultural social and political change k6uoagpdxzo-00268-00069900-00070138 the Beckett archives are exceptional and k6uoagpdxzo-00269-00070139-00070361 deep they offer traces of the living k6uoagpdxzo-00270-00070362-00070606 record of performances through photos k6uoagpdxzo-00271-00070607-00070859 reviews recordings interviews and k6uoagpdxzo-00272-00070860-00071176 anecdotes by the actors and directors k6uoagpdxzo-00273-00071177-00071423 the ephemeral nature of theater is that k6uoagpdxzo-00274-00071424-00071675 each performance is different every k6uoagpdxzo-00275-00071676-00071782 night k6uoagpdxzo-00276-00071783-00072017 even Productions that Becca directed k6uoagpdxzo-00277-00072018-00072215 varied markedly k6uoagpdxzo-00278-00072216-00072443 yet it is fortunate that Becca did k6uoagpdxzo-00279-00072444-00072719 direct and or participate in several k6uoagpdxzo-00280-00072720-00073006 Productions of the same work not for the k6uoagpdxzo-00281-00073007-00073205 record of how a perfect performance k6uoagpdxzo-00282-00073206-00073469 should look but for the experience that k6uoagpdxzo-00283-00073470-00073744 each performance Finds Its Own measure k6uoagpdxzo-00284-00073745-00073967 and its own audience k6uoagpdxzo-00285-00073968-00074243 Nuance is Central and brings us back to k6uoagpdxzo-00286-00074244-00074453 the archives as a continuum k6uoagpdxzo-00287-00074454-00074759 one that is constantly reflexive k6uoagpdxzo-00288-00074760-00074969 although the interactive index of the k6uoagpdxzo-00289-00074970-00075161 letters of Samuel Beckett is built k6uoagpdxzo-00290-00075162-00075443 empirically it is intended to stimulate k6uoagpdxzo-00291-00075444-00075713 and not replace reading of the letters k6uoagpdxzo-00292-00075714-00076073 in context it is a curated database not k6uoagpdxzo-00293-00076074-00076211 a data dump k6uoagpdxzo-00294-00076212-00076499 it is not intended to merely mine the k6uoagpdxzo-00295-00076500-00076750 data of the letters but to Open Fields k6uoagpdxzo-00296-00076751-00077021 of inquiry organically with the letters k6uoagpdxzo-00297-00077022-00077209 as a starting point k6uoagpdxzo-00298-00077210-00077441 chronologies of Beckett's writing and k6uoagpdxzo-00299-00077442-00077723 public events profiles of individuals k6uoagpdxzo-00300-00077724-00077962 and personal interviews film Snippets k6uoagpdxzo-00301-00077963-00078250 and photographs all of these help to k6uoagpdxzo-00302-00078251-00078461 contextualize the letters k6uoagpdxzo-00303-00078462-00078712 the letters are linked to archives of k6uoagpdxzo-00304-00078713-00078976 corollary Collections and to two other k6uoagpdxzo-00305-00078977-00079294 International projects the Becca digital k6uoagpdxzo-00306-00079295-00079588 manuscript Project based in Antwerp and k6uoagpdxzo-00307-00079589-00079841 the staging Beckett Project based at k6uoagpdxzo-00308-00079842-00080206 Reading England as well as two wider k6uoagpdxzo-00309-00080207-00080441 world events k6uoagpdxzo-00310-00080442-00080644 we will explore the platform together k6uoagpdxzo-00311-00080645-00080926 after Sarah Palmer project coordinator k6uoagpdxzo-00312-00080927-00081197 at Emory University Center for digital k6uoagpdxzo-00313-00081198-00081461 scholarship discusses how we developed k6uoagpdxzo-00314-00081462-00081731 the database secluded in a wooded area k6uoagpdxzo-00315-00081732-00081959 north of Emery's main campus lies an k6uoagpdxzo-00316-00081960-00082103 administrative building named the loose k6uoagpdxzo-00317-00082104-00082276 center which houses the extraordinary k6uoagpdxzo-00318-00082277-00082541 Archive of the Beckett letters the sheer k6uoagpdxzo-00319-00082542-00082738 volume of paper presented challenges for k6uoagpdxzo-00320-00082739-00082943 a data making endeavor k6uoagpdxzo-00321-00082944-00083147 thousands of transcribed letters were k6uoagpdxzo-00322-00083148-00083326 stored in volume level Microsoft Word k6uoagpdxzo-00323-00083327-00083561 files assembling data at the letter k6uoagpdxzo-00324-00083562-00083765 level required cutting and pasting k6uoagpdxzo-00325-00083766-00084029 content out into individual records and k6uoagpdxzo-00326-00084030-00084197 integrating with metadata from an access k6uoagpdxzo-00327-00084198-00084347 database k6uoagpdxzo-00328-00084348-00084544 this process illuminates the difference k6uoagpdxzo-00329-00084545-00084767 between workflows k6uoagpdxzo-00330-00084768-00085288 for composing books and Gathering data k6uoagpdxzo-00331-00085289-00085450 volume level collections of information k6uoagpdxzo-00332-00085451-00085661 make sense for producing a printed k6uoagpdxzo-00333-00085662-00085919 collection but data is atomic in nature k6uoagpdxzo-00334-00085920-00086153 and requires different processes to k6uoagpdxzo-00335-00086154-00086399 realize its full potential the Emory k6uoagpdxzo-00336-00086400-00086531 Center for digital scholarship k6uoagpdxzo-00337-00086532-00086759 established a workflow for building this k6uoagpdxzo-00338-00086760-00087005 data set like many projects seeking to k6uoagpdxzo-00339-00087006-00087209 get off the ground quickly we selected k6uoagpdxzo-00340-00087210-00087412 tools and platforms that were low in k6uoagpdxzo-00341-00087413-00087676 cost and easy to use this led us to k6uoagpdxzo-00342-00087677-00087869 initially tag XML versions of the k6uoagpdxzo-00343-00087870-00088126 letters using oxygen XML editor a k6uoagpdxzo-00344-00088127-00088306 powerful tool that allows tagging to be k6uoagpdxzo-00345-00088307-00088523 conducted without writing code k6uoagpdxzo-00346-00088524-00088726 we also store data in Google Sheets k6uoagpdxzo-00347-00088727-00088859 which were easy to edit and share k6uoagpdxzo-00348-00088860-00089003 between users k6uoagpdxzo-00349-00089004-00089218 despite these affordances we struggled k6uoagpdxzo-00350-00089219-00089411 to query our data and ensure its k6uoagpdxzo-00351-00089412-00089650 consistency we soon realized we needed k6uoagpdxzo-00352-00089651-00089812 to migrate the information to a k6uoagpdxzo-00353-00089813-00090167 centralized database k6uoagpdxzo-00354-00090168-00090376 thanks to some Innovative software k6uoagpdxzo-00355-00090377-00090521 engineering we developed a more k6uoagpdxzo-00356-00090522-00090712 comprehensive system for managing the k6uoagpdxzo-00357-00090713-00090976 data this diagram illustrates the k6uoagpdxzo-00358-00090977-00091138 components of the system which are k6uoagpdxzo-00359-00091139-00091331 colored by the team that maintains them k6uoagpdxzo-00360-00091332-00091559 in blue are the data sources from the k6uoagpdxzo-00361-00091560-00091703 loose center including the k6uoagpdxzo-00362-00091704-00091925 transcriptions an Excel file of letter k6uoagpdxzo-00363-00091926-00092165 metadata affectionately titled big Sam k6uoagpdxzo-00364-00092166-00092429 and multiple Google Sheets with data k6uoagpdxzo-00365-00092430-00092638 related to the tagged entities k6uoagpdxzo-00366-00092639-00092837 and red are the Technologies maintained k6uoagpdxzo-00367-00092838-00092987 by the Emory Center for digital k6uoagpdxzo-00368-00092988-00093232 scholarship including a tagging platform k6uoagpdxzo-00369-00093233-00093467 coded in Ember that sits atop a Ruby on k6uoagpdxzo-00370-00093468-00093725 Rails application a 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requires k6uoagpdxzo-00412-00102204-00102353 careful curatorial and Technical k6uoagpdxzo-00413-00102354-00102586 decisions we have amassed a considerable k6uoagpdxzo-00414-00102588-00102778 amount of information about thousands of k6uoagpdxzo-00415-00102779-00102977 letters and this volume requires k6uoagpdxzo-00416-00102978-00103132 thinking about how to present it as k6uoagpdxzo-00417-00103133-00103384 fertile soil for exploration and not k6uoagpdxzo-00418-00103385-00103589 simply a data dump k6uoagpdxzo-00419-00103590-00103763 everything from how entities are k6uoagpdxzo-00420-00103764-00103966 presented on the site to the development k6uoagpdxzo-00421-00103967-00104140 of search filters to adding k6uoagpdxzo-00422-00104141-00104356 contextualizing videos narratives and k6uoagpdxzo-00423-00104357-00104597 Graphics serves to further a promise of k6uoagpdxzo-00424-00104598-00104806 Rich metadata and that is to create new k6uoagpdxzo-00425-00104807-00105040 avenues for human knowledge k6uoagpdxzo-00426-00105041-00105316 the purpose of this Open Access Data and k6uoagpdxzo-00427-00105317-00105545 open source software is to democratize k6uoagpdxzo-00428-00105546-00105725 the materials of both archive and k6uoagpdxzo-00429-00105726-00105851 scholarship k6uoagpdxzo-00430-00105852-00106036 forming links between sources of k6uoagpdxzo-00431-00106038-00106223 knowledge is not only an intricate k6uoagpdxzo-00432-00106224-00106475 editorial and Technical Endeavor but can k6uoagpdxzo-00433-00106476-00106721 also be a form of Public Service k6uoagpdxzo-00434-00106722-00106960 as such this project aspires to be a k6uoagpdxzo-00435-00106961-00107128 model for other long-term research k6uoagpdxzo-00436-00107129-00107327 projects to adopt k6uoagpdxzo-00437-00107328-00107525 now we will explore the in-progress k6uoagpdxzo-00438-00107526-00107716 platform to discuss the kinds of k6uoagpdxzo-00439-00107717-00107993 research it supports k6uoagpdxzo-00440-00107994-00108215 among the features accessible to users k6uoagpdxzo-00441-00108216-00108413 on the opening screen are a tally of k6uoagpdxzo-00442-00108414-00108593 letters related to the search term that k6uoagpdxzo-00443-00108594-00108707 have been published in the letters of k6uoagpdxzo-00444-00108708-00108934 Samuel Beckett and a tally of letters k6uoagpdxzo-00445-00108935-00109169 written in English French German and k6uoagpdxzo-00446-00109170-00109366 Italian k6uoagpdxzo-00447-00109367-00109565 also available from The Opening screen k6uoagpdxzo-00448-00109566-00109763 is a list of repositories that provide k6uoagpdxzo-00449-00109764-00109973 public access to Originals or copies of k6uoagpdxzo-00450-00109974-00110195 Originals this will make it easier for k6uoagpdxzo-00451-00110196-00110452 users to plan research visits to or k6uoagpdxzo-00452-00110453-00110699 consultation with archives the archives k6uoagpdxzo-00453-00110700-00110878 are listed by letter counts with the k6uoagpdxzo-00454-00110879-00111125 largest collections first k6uoagpdxzo-00455-00111126-00111340 there is also a date range option so k6uoagpdxzo-00456-00111341-00111539 that users can selectively narrow their k6uoagpdxzo-00457-00111540-00112315 searches k6uoagpdxzo-00458-00112316-00112607 when searching entities it is possible k6uoagpdxzo-00459-00112608-00112895 to select a keyword all locate the k6uoagpdxzo-00460-00112896-00113110 repository and find the total number of k6uoagpdxzo-00461-00113111-00113369 letters available and their language k6uoagpdxzo-00462-00113370-00113608 here we are searching for Robert ponje k6uoagpdxzo-00463-00113609-00113908 at the burns library of Boston College k6uoagpdxzo-00464-00113909-00114125 all of Beckett's letters to Pangea are k6uoagpdxzo-00465-00114126-00114269 written in French k6uoagpdxzo-00466-00114270-00114478 of these 19 have been published in the k6uoagpdxzo-00467-00114479-00114749 letters of Samuel Beckett k6uoagpdxzo-00468-00114750-00115025 when we select one letter 28 September k6uoagpdxzo-00469-00115026-00115331 1955 we can see a description of the k6uoagpdxzo-00470-00115332-00115486 letter as well as a listing of the k6uoagpdxzo-00471-00115488-00115631 mentions in the letter k6uoagpdxzo-00472-00115632-00115871 if we select Waiting for Godot we find a k6uoagpdxzo-00473-00115872-00116027 description of the first production in k6uoagpdxzo-00474-00116028-00116357 English Peter Hall's 1955 production k6uoagpdxzo-00475-00116358-00116590 this entry gives the name and city of k6uoagpdxzo-00476-00116591-00116843 the theater a cast list notes about the k6uoagpdxzo-00477-00116844-00117119 production and links to other resources k6uoagpdxzo-00478-00117120-00117293 by looking through all the letters that k6uoagpdxzo-00479-00117294-00117473 refer to this production it is clear k6uoagpdxzo-00480-00117474-00117628 that references are not just from k6uoagpdxzo-00481-00117629-00117833 contemporary letters but also those k6uoagpdxzo-00482-00117833-00118084 written much later this alone extends k6uoagpdxzo-00483-00118085-00118445 the scope of inquiry k6uoagpdxzo-00484-00118446-00118690 if the keyword searches Alan Schneider k6uoagpdxzo-00485-00118691-00118858 who is Samuel Beckett's preferred k6uoagpdxzo-00486-00118859-00119081 American director the user will find k6uoagpdxzo-00487-00119082-00119254 there are four archives that hold k6uoagpdxzo-00488-00119255-00119501 relevant materials for all letters to k6uoagpdxzo-00489-00119502-00119663 Alan Schneider the user can select all k6uoagpdxzo-00490-00119664-00119836 repositories k6uoagpdxzo-00491-00119838-00120004 but there is also interest in the k6uoagpdxzo-00492-00120005-00120208 details selecting one letter from the k6uoagpdxzo-00493-00120209-00120389 Alan Schneider collection of the burns k6uoagpdxzo-00494-00120390-00120743 Library Boston College offers an example k6uoagpdxzo-00495-00120744-00120923 note the information given about k6uoagpdxzo-00496-00120924-00121289 Beckett's letter of 11 February 1966 the k6uoagpdxzo-00497-00121290-00121445 user can see that the letter was k6uoagpdxzo-00498-00121446-00121660 addressed from Paris that it has no k6uoagpdxzo-00499-00121661-00121889 envelope that it is an autographed k6uoagpdxzo-00500-00121890-00122099 handwritten letter signed k6uoagpdxzo-00501-00122100-00122381 that it is one leaf with two sides and k6uoagpdxzo-00502-00122382-00122608 that it was published in volume 4 of the k6uoagpdxzo-00503-00122609-00122884 letters of Samuel Beckett k6uoagpdxzo-00504-00122885-00123071 of interest in this letter is the k6uoagpdxzo-00505-00123072-00123347 mention of edjo in Alan Schneider's k6uoagpdxzo-00506-00123348-00123521 production k6uoagpdxzo-00507-00123522-00123754 and he Joe the German production k6uoagpdxzo-00508-00123755-00123971 directed by Samuel Beckett at the k6uoagpdxzo-00509-00123972-00124283 Deutsche run Funk and Stark Stuttgart k6uoagpdxzo-00510-00124283-00124439 this was the first production where k6uoagpdxzo-00511-00124440-00124589 Beckett was the director of record k6uoagpdxzo-00512-00124590-00124804 though he had poked his nose into many k6uoagpdxzo-00513-00124805-00125008 previous rehearsals of his work k6uoagpdxzo-00514-00125009-00125171 Beckett's own feelings about this k6uoagpdxzo-00515-00125172-00125327 production are apparent by the number of k6uoagpdxzo-00516-00125328-00125501 letters written about the experience k6uoagpdxzo-00517-00125502-00125836 some written much later k6uoagpdxzo-00518-00125838-00126016 more detailed results can be found k6uoagpdxzo-00519-00126017-00126190 through entity searches k6uoagpdxzo-00520-00126191-00126377 there is a drop down menu for The Entity k6uoagpdxzo-00521-00126378-00126616 types which allows the user to narrow a k6uoagpdxzo-00522-00126617-00126802 research query to select the most k6uoagpdxzo-00523-00126803-00127031 relevant results for their purposes k6uoagpdxzo-00524-00127032-00127301 one search might be to select a label or k6uoagpdxzo-00525-00127302-00127595 a keyword by selecting any a very wide k6uoagpdxzo-00526-00127596-00127739 search will be returned for any k6uoagpdxzo-00527-00127740-00127877 description that contains the word k6uoagpdxzo-00528-00127878-00128152 searched by selecting all only searches k6uoagpdxzo-00529-00128153-00128333 that use the full phrase or name will be k6uoagpdxzo-00530-00128333-00128477 returned k6uoagpdxzo-00531-00128478-00128777 the user can search for the label prose k6uoagpdxzo-00532-00128778-00129034 and then select the entity writing to k6uoagpdxzo-00533-00129035-00129227 locate a list of Beckett's prose writing k6uoagpdxzo-00534-00129228-00129484 when the website launches this list will k6uoagpdxzo-00535-00129485-00129658 be sequenced by date k6uoagpdxzo-00536-00129659-00129928 by using the label pruced and then k6uoagpdxzo-00537-00129929-00130169 selecting The Entity of translating a k6uoagpdxzo-00538-00130170-00130301 list will be supplied of the k6uoagpdxzo-00539-00130302-00130475 translations of Samuel Beckett's k6uoagpdxzo-00540-00130476-00130636 monograph proofs that are mentioned in k6uoagpdxzo-00541-00130638-00130943 his letters included is a proposal for a k6uoagpdxzo-00542-00130944-00131159 French translation a proposition that k6uoagpdxzo-00543-00131160-00131369 Beckett rejected several times not k6uoagpdxzo-00544-00131370-00131549 wishing his youthful remarks on this k6uoagpdxzo-00545-00131550-00131735 notable French writer to be available to k6uoagpdxzo-00546-00131736-00131873 the critical assessment of French k6uoagpdxzo-00547-00131874-00132181 readers k6uoagpdxzo-00548-00132182-00132557 by selecting keyword Malloy the first k6uoagpdxzo-00549-00132558-00132827 novel in the trilogy and opening writing k6uoagpdxzo-00550-00132828-00133085 and selecting the first result the user k6uoagpdxzo-00551-00133086-00133301 will discover that this novel was begun k6uoagpdxzo-00552-00133302-00133702 in 1947 first published in 1951 and was k6uoagpdxzo-00553-00133703-00134201 mentioned in letters from 1948 to 1986. k6uoagpdxzo-00554-00134202-00134399 by selecting the English translation k6uoagpdxzo-00555-00134400-00134621 undertaken by the author Patrick Bowles k6uoagpdxzo-00556-00134622-00134831 the user will find the archival and k6uoagpdxzo-00557-00134832-00135101 publication details for the translation k6uoagpdxzo-00558-00135102-00135323 this inquiry will also reveal the k6uoagpdxzo-00559-00135324-00135497 letters in which this translating is k6uoagpdxzo-00560-00135498-00135671 mentioned learning then Beckett's own k6uoagpdxzo-00561-00135672-00135923 words how much translation was a process k6uoagpdxzo-00562-00135924-00136204 of re-envisioning the text and so listed k6uoagpdxzo-00563-00136205-00136463 here under writing k6uoagpdxzo-00564-00136464-00136697 by selecting translating there are five k6uoagpdxzo-00565-00136698-00136925 results k6uoagpdxzo-00566-00136926-00137128 by selecting Productions the first k6uoagpdxzo-00567-00137129-00137321 listing is a rejected proposal for k6uoagpdxzo-00568-00137322-00137440 production k6uoagpdxzo-00569-00137441-00137663 selecting 5 yields a large number of k6uoagpdxzo-00570-00137664-00137849 letters that touch on Patrick McGee's k6uoagpdxzo-00571-00137850-00138089 readings from Malloy for the BBC k6uoagpdxzo-00572-00138090-00138304 Beckett was so taken with McGee's voice k6uoagpdxzo-00573-00138305-00138545 that he would write crap's last tape for k6uoagpdxzo-00574-00138546-00138623 him k6uoagpdxzo-00575-00138624-00138947 from these note the letter of 24 March k6uoagpdxzo-00576-00138948-00139240 1958 to Patrick McGee k6uoagpdxzo-00577-00139241-00139457 it provides publication information so k6uoagpdxzo-00578-00139458-00139631 that the user can consult the letter in k6uoagpdxzo-00579-00139632-00139816 print as well as in The Archives of k6uoagpdxzo-00580-00139817-00140116 Trinity College Dublin k6uoagpdxzo-00581-00140117-00140363 by selecting person it may be valuable k6uoagpdxzo-00582-00140364-00140554 to learn the names of eight persons with k6uoagpdxzo-00583-00140555-00140825 connections to Beckett's novel Malloy k6uoagpdxzo-00584-00140826-00141023 noted as possible to toggle from one k6uoagpdxzo-00585-00141024-00141214 entity to another and explore a single k6uoagpdxzo-00586-00141215-00141640 reference from several facets k6uoagpdxzo-00587-00141641-00141899 selecting the keyword Royal Court k6uoagpdxzo-00588-00141900-00142109 theater and then the entity of k6uoagpdxzo-00589-00142110-00142301 attendance we note that Beckett saw the k6uoagpdxzo-00590-00142302-00142523 production of John Osborne's play Luther k6uoagpdxzo-00591-00142524-00142727 performed by the Royal Court theater in k6uoagpdxzo-00592-00142728-00143087 Paris on 6 July 1961. k6uoagpdxzo-00593-00143088-00143369 by selecting person one locates a list k6uoagpdxzo-00594-00143370-00143549 of individuals linked to the rural Court k6uoagpdxzo-00595-00143550-00143813 a useful Guide to the several decades of k6uoagpdxzo-00596-00143814-00144083 Key Personnel named in Beckett's letters k6uoagpdxzo-00597-00144084-00144335 selecting Albert Finney who acted in the k6uoagpdxzo-00598-00144336-00144689 1973 production of crap's last tape k6uoagpdxzo-00599-00144690-00144904 here we note the link to the Via for k6uoagpdxzo-00600-00144905-00145133 Albert Finney further research can be k6uoagpdxzo-00601-00145134-00145307 done by exploring the letters mentioning k6uoagpdxzo-00602-00145308-00145481 this production of crap's last tape k6uoagpdxzo-00603-00145482-00145666 using the play's title as the keyword k6uoagpdxzo-00604-00145667-00145913 for an entity search k6uoagpdxzo-00605-00145914-00146104 Beckett wrote in both English and French k6uoagpdxzo-00606-00146105-00146278 and translated his own Works k6uoagpdxzo-00607-00146279-00146495 occasionally with others but most often k6uoagpdxzo-00608-00146496-00146740 though reluctantly by himself k6uoagpdxzo-00609-00146741-00146885 he worked closely with the German k6uoagpdxzo-00610-00146886-00147202 translators elmar and Erica tophoven his k6uoagpdxzo-00611-00147203-00147364 empathy with translators of his work k6uoagpdxzo-00612-00147365-00147545 into languages he did not know was k6uoagpdxzo-00613-00147546-00147947 expansive to them jacoba Von Velda Dutch k6uoagpdxzo-00614-00147948-00148264 Christian ludwigsen Danish Anthony k6uoagpdxzo-00615-00148265-00148583 Libera polish he generously and k6uoagpdxzo-00616-00148584-00148835 patiently responded to inquiries knowing k6uoagpdxzo-00617-00148836-00149009 too well the impossible demands of k6uoagpdxzo-00618-00149010-00149123 translation k6uoagpdxzo-00619-00149124-00149339 here we can see Dutch translations of k6uoagpdxzo-00620-00149340-00149549 Samuel Beckett's works k6uoagpdxzo-00621-00149550-00149752 finally a brief survey to explore the k6uoagpdxzo-00622-00149753-00149969 value of other entity searches by k6uoagpdxzo-00623-00149970-00150154 entering the keyword strike and k6uoagpdxzo-00624-00150155-00150364 selecting public events one finds an k6uoagpdxzo-00625-00150365-00150514 indication of major strikes that k6uoagpdxzo-00626-00150515-00150725 affected Beckett's letter writing a post k6uoagpdxzo-00627-00150726-00151019 will strike for five months in 1979 and k6uoagpdxzo-00628-00151020-00151252 also daily living an Air France strike k6uoagpdxzo-00629-00151253-00151709 in 1966 a bank for weeks in 1978. if one k6uoagpdxzo-00630-00151710-00151949 opens the entity person there is mention k6uoagpdxzo-00631-00151950-00152278 of a hunger strike by Clara colosimo who k6uoagpdxzo-00632-00152279-00152452 had been denied the dramatic rights to k6uoagpdxzo-00633-00152453-00152693 perform Happy Days in Italy due to a k6uoagpdxzo-00634-00152694-00152951 prior contract with another actress as k6uoagpdxzo-00635-00152952-00153178 with other examples opening the entry k6uoagpdxzo-00636-00153179-00153401 for Clara colissimo includes letters k6uoagpdxzo-00637-00153402-00153587 that mention this issue k6uoagpdxzo-00638-00153588-00153899 selecting this keyword Algeria and k6uoagpdxzo-00639-00153900-00154061 opening the entries for the entity k6uoagpdxzo-00640-00154062-00154276 public events yields letters in which k6uoagpdxzo-00641-00154277-00154475 Beckett mentions the Algerian conflict k6uoagpdxzo-00642-00154476-00154637 that dominated the news in life k6uoagpdxzo-00643-00154638-00155026 particularly from 1960 to 1962. k6uoagpdxzo-00644-00155027-00155207 we should not neglect Beckett's deep k6uoagpdxzo-00645-00155208-00155435 connection to music and art k6uoagpdxzo-00646-00155436-00155687 he enjoyed playing the piano attended k6uoagpdxzo-00647-00155688-00155873 concerts and had personal connections k6uoagpdxzo-00648-00155874-00156059 with musicians and took an active k6uoagpdxzo-00649-00156060-00156239 interest in the career of his nephew the k6uoagpdxzo-00650-00156240-00156490 flautas Edward Beckett with his wife k6uoagpdxzo-00651-00156491-00156695 Suzanne herself trained as a concert k6uoagpdxzo-00652-00156696-00156935 pianist he listened to recordings and k6uoagpdxzo-00653-00156936-00157090 read the music composed in connection k6uoagpdxzo-00654-00157091-00157283 with his writing ranging from k6uoagpdxzo-00655-00157284-00157499 contemporary composers Humphrey Searle k6uoagpdxzo-00656-00157500-00157751 Charles Dodd and Roger Reynolds to the k6uoagpdxzo-00657-00157752-00157966 jazz artist Henry Crowder k6uoagpdxzo-00658-00157967-00158171 his letters mention musical performers k6uoagpdxzo-00659-00158172-00158375 in the Dublin of his youth Harry k6uoagpdxzo-00660-00158376-00158590 lotter's Music Hall songs and John k6uoagpdxzo-00661-00158591-00158776 larch's performances of interval music k6uoagpdxzo-00662-00158777-00159011 at the Abbey theater as well as highly k6uoagpdxzo-00663-00159012-00159214 regarded contemporary composers Martin k6uoagpdxzo-00664-00159215-00159485 Feldman and Earl Kim k6uoagpdxzo-00665-00159486-00159713 among classical composers his favorite k6uoagpdxzo-00666-00159714-00160001 without a doubt was Franz Schubert whose k6uoagpdxzo-00667-00160002-00160276 composition knocked on traum influenced k6uoagpdxzo-00668-00160277-00160601 Beckett's radio play of the same name k6uoagpdxzo-00669-00160602-00160847 his attendance included concerts and k6uoagpdxzo-00670-00160848-00161014 recordings k6uoagpdxzo-00671-00161015-00161207 Thomas mcgreevey was a significant k6uoagpdxzo-00672-00161208-00161393 influence on Samuel Beckett's interest k6uoagpdxzo-00673-00161394-00161711 in art although their tastes diverged he k6uoagpdxzo-00674-00161712-00161933 introduced Becca to Jack B Yates whose k6uoagpdxzo-00675-00161934-00162083 painting and friendship was important to k6uoagpdxzo-00676-00162084-00162202 Beckett k6uoagpdxzo-00677-00162203-00162466 the Italian painter georgoni was a 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foundation a proud ksdpIt65yvI-00003-00000727-00000975 supporter of blue ridge pbs and its ksdpIt65yvI-00004-00000976-00001231 mission to be the region's storyteller ksdpIt65yvI-00005-00001232-00001478 additional support is provided by the ksdpIt65yvI-00006-00001479-00001702 city of roanoke and visit virginia's ksdpIt65yvI-00007-00001703-00001959 blue ridge ksdpIt65yvI-00008-00001960-00002199 welcoming guests to the roanoke valley ksdpIt65yvI-00009-00002200-00002391 since 1882 ksdpIt65yvI-00010-00002392-00002687 the hotel roanoke stands elegantly on a ksdpIt65yvI-00011-00002688-00002887 gently sloping hill on the north side of ksdpIt65yvI-00012-00002888-00003095 the city just a few steps from the ksdpIt65yvI-00013-00003096-00003270 railroad tracks that once carried the ksdpIt65yvI-00014-00003271-00003503 steam-powered engines that ultimately ksdpIt65yvI-00015-00003504-00003799 and indirectly led to her creation her ksdpIt65yvI-00016-00003800-00004022 humble beginnings as a dark and rugged ksdpIt65yvI-00017-00004023-00004286 69-room structure would eventually give ksdpIt65yvI-00018-00004287-00004486 way to a grand hostile ray that has ksdpIt65yvI-00019-00004487-00004679 played a prominent part in the social ksdpIt65yvI-00020-00004680-00004919 and civic life of the city ksdpIt65yvI-00021-00004920-00005119 today the grand old lady is a ksdpIt65yvI-00022-00005120-00005359 beautifully appointed modern structure ksdpIt65yvI-00023-00005360-00005679 featuring 330 guest rooms and alongside ksdpIt65yvI-00024-00005680-00005951 her a complimentary companion structure ksdpIt65yvI-00025-00005952-00006270 stands boasting 63 000 square feet of ksdpIt65yvI-00026-00006271-00006575 convention meeting and event space ksdpIt65yvI-00027-00006576-00006895 donald piedmont wrote in his 1994 book ksdpIt65yvI-00028-00006895-00007167 peanut soup and spoon bread an informal ksdpIt65yvI-00029-00007168-00007414 history of hotel roanoke that the city ksdpIt65yvI-00030-00007415-00007687 and the hotel virtually founded together ksdpIt65yvI-00031-00007688-00007967 were bound up in an indefinable almost ksdpIt65yvI-00032-00007968-00008214 mystical symbiosis each drawing ksdpIt65yvI-00033-00008215-00008471 nourishment and growth from the other ksdpIt65yvI-00034-00008472-00008703 the words were true then and they are ksdpIt65yvI-00035-00008704-00009085 just as true today ksdpIt65yvI-00036-00009086-00011399 [Music] ksdpIt65yvI-00037-00011400-00011638 halfway between appomattox and the 20th ksdpIt65yvI-00038-00011639-00012038 century big lick virginia in 1881 was an ksdpIt65yvI-00039-00012039-00012246 unremarkable place ksdpIt65yvI-00040-00012247-00012614 the 1880 census listed 669 persons and ksdpIt65yvI-00041-00012615-00012838 about a hundred houses fairly evenly ksdpIt65yvI-00042-00012839-00013022 divided between black and white ksdpIt65yvI-00043-00013023-00013175 residents ksdpIt65yvI-00044-00013176-00013351 it had just one important business ksdpIt65yvI-00045-00013352-00013599 street unpaved and punctuated with ksdpIt65yvI-00046-00013600-00013855 stepping stones as crossings ksdpIt65yvI-00047-00013856-00014143 chartered as a town in 1874 ksdpIt65yvI-00048-00014144-00014366 big lick had a newspaper the roanoke ksdpIt65yvI-00049-00014368-00014615 leader and a railroad the atlantic ksdpIt65yvI-00050-00014616-00014871 mississippi and ohio the ambitiously ksdpIt65yvI-00051-00014872-00015127 named and at the time virtually bankrupt ksdpIt65yvI-00052-00015128-00015463 creature of general william mahone ksdpIt65yvI-00053-00015463-00015694 this place with the unsophisticated name ksdpIt65yvI-00054-00015695-00015886 lay between holland's college to the ksdpIt65yvI-00055-00015887-00016183 north and roanoke college to the west ksdpIt65yvI-00056-00016184-00016422 even then long-established and highly ksdpIt65yvI-00057-00016423-00016630 regarded institutions ksdpIt65yvI-00058-00016631-00016855 ronald college and holland's ksdpIt65yvI-00059-00016856-00017022 college it was holland's female ksdpIt65yvI-00060-00017023-00017255 institute at that time were both ksdpIt65yvI-00061-00017256-00017419 established in the ksdpIt65yvI-00062-00017420-00017575 1840s ksdpIt65yvI-00063-00017576-00017879 and so by the time the hotel roanoke ksdpIt65yvI-00064-00017880-00018135 came into existence in 1882 both of ksdpIt65yvI-00065-00018136-00018319 those institutions had been around for ksdpIt65yvI-00066-00018320-00018471 40 years ksdpIt65yvI-00067-00018472-00018671 great events involving the railroad were ksdpIt65yvI-00068-00018672-00018919 in the process of coming to fruition and ksdpIt65yvI-00069-00018920-00019135 the visionaries of big lick were quick ksdpIt65yvI-00070-00019136-00019335 to see the possibilities ksdpIt65yvI-00071-00019336-00019543 frederick j kimball president of the ksdpIt65yvI-00072-00019544-00019783 shenandoah valley railroad and himself a ksdpIt65yvI-00073-00019784-00020039 world-class visionary was looking for an ksdpIt65yvI-00074-00020040-00020230 appropriate spot for his north-south ksdpIt65yvI-00075-00020231-00020407 shenandoah railroad to cross the ksdpIt65yvI-00076-00020408-00020567 east-west line of the atlantic ksdpIt65yvI-00077-00020568-00020775 mississippi and ohio ksdpIt65yvI-00078-00020776-00021039 but in 1881 ksdpIt65yvI-00079-00021040-00021463 the amno went bankrupt and was sold at ksdpIt65yvI-00080-00021464-00021758 auction to a group from philadelphia who ksdpIt65yvI-00081-00021759-00021967 also was controlling the shenandoah ksdpIt65yvI-00082-00021968-00022207 valley the railroad was renamed to the ksdpIt65yvI-00083-00022208-00022447 norfolk and western railroad ksdpIt65yvI-00084-00022448-00022703 as opposed to railway ksdpIt65yvI-00085-00022704-00022878 the proposed intersection of the two ksdpIt65yvI-00086-00022879-00023094 railroads was hardly confidential ksdpIt65yvI-00087-00023095-00023311 surveyors were already busy looking at ksdpIt65yvI-00088-00023312-00023647 various sites including salem montvale ksdpIt65yvI-00089-00023648-00023950 bonsack and big lick ksdpIt65yvI-00090-00023951-00024150 aware of this and sensing major ksdpIt65yvI-00091-00024151-00024358 possibilities for their town ksdpIt65yvI-00092-00024359-00024567 the big lake establishment assembled ksdpIt65yvI-00093-00024568-00024742 what surely was one of the first ksdpIt65yvI-00094-00024743-00024911 industrial development incentive ksdpIt65yvI-00095-00024912-00025222 packages offering land and between five ksdpIt65yvI-00096-00025223-00025407 and ten thousand dollars cash to the ksdpIt65yvI-00097-00025408-00025670 railroad to locate in big lick ksdpIt65yvI-00098-00025672-00025967 a midnight ride was an order ksdpIt65yvI-00099-00025968-00026134 so after that meeting the town had ksdpIt65yvI-00100-00026135-00026295 agreed that they wanted to spend the ksdpIt65yvI-00101-00026295-00026599 money and sent out a rider who rode on ksdpIt65yvI-00102-00026600-00026831 horseback to buckhannon ksdpIt65yvI-00103-00026832-00027062 a second rider rode from buckhannon to ksdpIt65yvI-00104-00027063-00027239 lexington where the shenandoah valley ksdpIt65yvI-00105-00027239-00027607 was having a board meeting and convened ksdpIt65yvI-00106-00027608-00027807 pledged their money towards bringing the ksdpIt65yvI-00107-00027808-00027999 railroad to big lick ksdpIt65yvI-00108-00028000-00028311 and the rest is history ksdpIt65yvI-00109-00028312-00028518 according to henry trout the mayor of ksdpIt65yvI-00110-00028519-00028679 big lick at the time ksdpIt65yvI-00111-00028680-00028870 the incentive package had ksdpIt65yvI-00112-00028872-00029167 a very good effect mr kimball remarked ksdpIt65yvI-00113-00029168-00029423 that the people of big lick were alive ksdpIt65yvI-00114-00029424-00029646 and at big lick shenandoah would have ksdpIt65yvI-00115-00029647-00029807 good friends ksdpIt65yvI-00116-00029808-00030046 with his mind made up kimball saw ksdpIt65yvI-00117-00030047-00030239 immediately that big lick couldn't ksdpIt65yvI-00118-00030239-00030495 possibly absorb the enormous enterprise ksdpIt65yvI-00119-00030495-00030727 he was about to put in place there ksdpIt65yvI-00120-00030727-00031039 big lick's eagerness was not enough what ksdpIt65yvI-00121-00031039-00031279 was needed to complement a new and major ksdpIt65yvI-00122-00031280-00031479 railroad general office and large ksdpIt65yvI-00123-00031480-00031774 machine shop complex was a new and major ksdpIt65yvI-00124-00031775-00031895 city ksdpIt65yvI-00125-00031895-00032095 the grateful residents of big lick ksdpIt65yvI-00126-00032095-00032270 wanted to show their appreciation to ksdpIt65yvI-00127-00032272-00032583 kimball so much so that a june 1881 ksdpIt65yvI-00128-00032583-00032799 election ballot listed kimball and ksdpIt65yvI-00129-00032800-00033007 roanoke as possible names for the ksdpIt65yvI-00130-00033008-00033367 forthcoming metropolis a 57 to 17 vote ksdpIt65yvI-00131-00033368-00033631 favored kimball as the new town name but ksdpIt65yvI-00132-00033632-00033855 kimball himself quickly rejected the ksdpIt65yvI-00133-00033856-00034207 idea by declaring on the roanoke river ksdpIt65yvI-00134-00034208-00034543 in roanoke county name it roanoke ksdpIt65yvI-00135-00034544-00034751 before long he put the town's new name ksdpIt65yvI-00136-00034752-00034967 to an immediate and promising use by ksdpIt65yvI-00137-00034968-00035143 creating the roanoke land and ksdpIt65yvI-00138-00035144-00035374 improvement company its goal was to ksdpIt65yvI-00139-00035375-00035527 develop and build the city and ksdpIt65yvI-00140-00035528-00035702 infrastructure needed to shelter and ksdpIt65yvI-00141-00035703-00035879 sustain the thousands of workers ksdpIt65yvI-00142-00035880-00036095 flocking to roanoke to share the new ksdpIt65yvI-00143-00036096-00036415 prosperity promised by the railroad the ksdpIt65yvI-00144-00036416-00036590 roanoke landing improvement company was ksdpIt65yvI-00145-00036591-00036790 started by the norfolk and western ksdpIt65yvI-00146-00036791-00037143 railway officials with the idea that big ksdpIt65yvI-00147-00037144-00037430 lake now roanoke needed to be developed ksdpIt65yvI-00148-00037431-00037599 i mean it was kind of uh just to be ksdpIt65yvI-00149-00037600-00037927 honest a seedy sleepy little town ksdpIt65yvI-00150-00037928-00038143 and so the land and improvement company ksdpIt65yvI-00151-00038144-00038430 that they started acquired ultimately ksdpIt65yvI-00152-00038431-00038702 over 1100 acres in and around the town ksdpIt65yvI-00153-00038703-00038983 of big league good money was paid for ksdpIt65yvI-00154-00038984-00039271 those properties so a lot of small ksdpIt65yvI-00155-00039272-00039574 businessmen in big lick slash roanoke ksdpIt65yvI-00156-00039575-00039807 immediately became quite wealthy ksdpIt65yvI-00157-00039808-00039990 literally overnight ksdpIt65yvI-00158-00039991-00040343 by june of 1882 a mill two office ksdpIt65yvI-00159-00040344-00040615 buildings and 15 stores had been built ksdpIt65yvI-00160-00040616-00040807 the number of blacksmiths doctors and ksdpIt65yvI-00161-00040808-00041046 lawyers had more than doubled as had ksdpIt65yvI-00162-00041047-00041287 saloons churches and houses ksdpIt65yvI-00163-00041288-00041471 the number of hotels increased from ksdpIt65yvI-00164-00041472-00041759 three to nine and one of those nine was ksdpIt65yvI-00165-00041760-00041967 the hotel roanoke ksdpIt65yvI-00166-00041968-00042167 kimball himself selected the site in a ksdpIt65yvI-00167-00042168-00042430 wheat field on a hill north of the city ksdpIt65yvI-00168-00042431-00042790 just above the railroad tracks ksdpIt65yvI-00169-00042791-00043079 an 1882 photograph of the completed ksdpIt65yvI-00170-00043080-00043430 hotel shows it's stark and rather bleak ksdpIt65yvI-00171-00043431-00043630 the queen anne anne-styled half-timber ksdpIt65yvI-00172-00043631-00043815 half-stucco appearance it retained ksdpIt65yvI-00173-00043816-00044055 during its entire existence was clearly ksdpIt65yvI-00174-00044056-00044230 established and its architecture ksdpIt65yvI-00175-00044231-00044590 featured gables projections and porches ksdpIt65yvI-00176-00044591-00044839 the 69 guest rooms available included ksdpIt65yvI-00177-00044840-00045030 some of the modern conveniences of the ksdpIt65yvI-00178-00045031-00045335 time such as hot and cold running water ksdpIt65yvI-00179-00045336-00045615 speaking tubes for calling hotel staff ksdpIt65yvI-00180-00045616-00045871 and elevators the magnificent mountain ksdpIt65yvI-00181-00045872-00046118 views from the verandas and every window ksdpIt65yvI-00182-00046119-00046455 and door were said to be another amenity ksdpIt65yvI-00183-00046456-00046679 the hotel roanoke officially opened its ksdpIt65yvI-00184-00046680-00047079 doors on christmas day 1882 ksdpIt65yvI-00185-00047080-00047358 the the main thing about about hotel ksdpIt65yvI-00186-00047359-00047551 roanoke's decor ksdpIt65yvI-00187-00047552-00047918 is that it was extremely elegant ksdpIt65yvI-00188-00047919-00048143 remember this railroad town all these ksdpIt65yvI-00189-00048144-00048415 people were coming in to create the the ksdpIt65yvI-00190-00048416-00048695 railroad mr kimball was the driving ksdpIt65yvI-00191-00048696-00048958 force from philadelphia ksdpIt65yvI-00192-00048959-00049239 he was president of the railroad it was ksdpIt65yvI-00193-00049240-00049662 his taste that influenced the taste of ksdpIt65yvI-00194-00049663-00049895 hotel roanoke ksdpIt65yvI-00195-00049896-00050118 patronage grew steadily and for good ksdpIt65yvI-00196-00050119-00050327 reason the hotel was becoming ksdpIt65yvI-00197-00050328-00050495 established as more than a place to ksdpIt65yvI-00198-00050496-00050735 spend a night it sought to carve out a ksdpIt65yvI-00199-00050736-00050927 niche in the resort market ksdpIt65yvI-00200-00050928-00051118 norfolk and western trains entered the ksdpIt65yvI-00201-00051119-00051399 city bringing passengers from all points ksdpIt65yvI-00202-00051400-00051663 foreign and domestic well-to-do families ksdpIt65yvI-00203-00051664-00051846 left the summer heat of the cities in ksdpIt65yvI-00204-00051847-00052023 search of the fresh air of the blue ksdpIt65yvI-00205-00052024-00052270 ridge mountains ksdpIt65yvI-00206-00052271-00052487 the hotel roanoke's first expansion took ksdpIt65yvI-00207-00052488-00052775 place in 1891 which added a number of ksdpIt65yvI-00208-00052776-00052999 guest rooms and remodeled extensively ksdpIt65yvI-00209-00053000-00053247 the hotel's west facing wing the timber ksdpIt65yvI-00210-00053248-00053487 stucco motif was still evident and a ksdpIt65yvI-00211-00053488-00053726 large wraparound porch built to face ksdpIt65yvI-00212-00053727-00053926 both west and south ksdpIt65yvI-00213-00053927-00054247 but just seven years later in 1898 the ksdpIt65yvI-00214-00054248-00054471 hotel's future was in question when ksdpIt65yvI-00215-00054472-00054711 around 1 30 in the afternoon of july the ksdpIt65yvI-00216-00054712-00054935 first a fire broke out in the kitchen ksdpIt65yvI-00217-00054936-00055119 and quickly spread throughout the wood ksdpIt65yvI-00218-00055120-00055366 frame structure the thick heavy smoke ksdpIt65yvI-00219-00055367-00055591 filled the air the lawn filled with ksdpIt65yvI-00220-00055591-00055782 spectators and was littered with ksdpIt65yvI-00221-00055783-00056054 materials and furnishings ksdpIt65yvI-00222-00056055-00056279 the firemen were having a hard time ksdpIt65yvI-00223-00056279-00056423 trying to ksdpIt65yvI-00224-00056424-00056607 keep it under control ksdpIt65yvI-00225-00056608-00056687 so ksdpIt65yvI-00226-00056688-00056959 the roanoke machine shop workmen all ksdpIt65yvI-00227-00056960-00057142 came running up the hill ksdpIt65yvI-00228-00057144-00057382 and they tried to save carpets and ksdpIt65yvI-00229-00057383-00057494 equipment ksdpIt65yvI-00230-00057495-00057830 they did a very good job but they also ksdpIt65yvI-00231-00057832-00058087 lost thousands of dollars worth of ksdpIt65yvI-00232-00058088-00058199 furniture ksdpIt65yvI-00233-00058200-00058326 and china ksdpIt65yvI-00234-00058327-00058566 what these gentlemen didn't realize was ksdpIt65yvI-00235-00058567-00058750 when you throw china ksdpIt65yvI-00236-00058751-00058942 and furniture out of second and third ksdpIt65yvI-00237-00058944-00059311 floor windows it's going to break ksdpIt65yvI-00238-00059312-00059526 several people were seriously injured ksdpIt65yvI-00239-00059527-00059742 and only the upper floor and roof were ksdpIt65yvI-00240-00059744-00060007 damaged the hotel closed for several ksdpIt65yvI-00241-00060008-00060279 months but by november it was once again ksdpIt65yvI-00242-00060279-00060559 open for business the hotel that sprang ksdpIt65yvI-00243-00060560-00060719 from the blackened ruins would be ksdpIt65yvI-00244-00060720-00060950 rebuilt numerous times in one form or ksdpIt65yvI-00245-00060951-00061311 another over the decades to come ksdpIt65yvI-00246-00061312-00061535 hotel roanoke's next expansion took ksdpIt65yvI-00247-00061536-00061735 place in 1916. ksdpIt65yvI-00248-00061736-00062015 the old east west wing was torn down and ksdpIt65yvI-00249-00062016-00062319 replaced with a new three-story 72-room ksdpIt65yvI-00250-00062320-00062438 addition ksdpIt65yvI-00251-00062439-00062606 most of the guest rooms were equipped ksdpIt65yvI-00252-00062607-00062823 with private baths and a number of ksdpIt65yvI-00253-00062824-00063142 private dining rooms were added as well ksdpIt65yvI-00254-00063144-00063359 the great depression was well underway ksdpIt65yvI-00255-00063360-00063750 when in 1931 even the 1916 editions were ksdpIt65yvI-00256-00063751-00063966 out of date thanks to the increasing ksdpIt65yvI-00257-00063967-00064238 popularity of automobile travel ksdpIt65yvI-00258-00064239-00064454 norfolk and western was willing to spend ksdpIt65yvI-00259-00064455-00064654 big money to make its showplace more ksdpIt65yvI-00260-00064655-00064919 attractive while simultaneously putting ksdpIt65yvI-00261-00064920-00065103 up a new eight-story office building ksdpIt65yvI-00262-00065104-00065335 across the street next door to the ksdpIt65yvI-00263-00065336-00065679 existing office building built in 1896. ksdpIt65yvI-00264-00065680-00065959 the 225 thousand dollar investment added ksdpIt65yvI-00265-00065960-00066223 40 000 square feet of floor space ksdpIt65yvI-00266-00066224-00066647 75 rooms for a total of 250 and a 60 car ksdpIt65yvI-00267-00066648-00066775 garage ksdpIt65yvI-00268-00066776-00067063 new room features included electric fans ksdpIt65yvI-00269-00067064-00067343 movable telephones and large lighted ksdpIt65yvI-00270-00067344-00067591 closets ksdpIt65yvI-00271-00067592-00067806 the most important expansion however ksdpIt65yvI-00272-00067807-00068063 would take place just six years later ksdpIt65yvI-00273-00068064-00068294 beginning in 1937. ksdpIt65yvI-00274-00068295-00068567 the present hotel was torn down ksdpIt65yvI-00275-00068568-00068871 and a new hotel was built on the same ksdpIt65yvI-00276-00068872-00068991 property ksdpIt65yvI-00277-00068992-00069206 which is what most of us remember the ksdpIt65yvI-00278-00069207-00069535 hotel as being before 1995. ksdpIt65yvI-00279-00069536-00069703 it's the hotel where you and i are ksdpIt65yvI-00280-00069704-00069959 sitting in today and this hotel ksdpIt65yvI-00281-00069960-00070319 comprised six floors plus a penthouse ksdpIt65yvI-00282-00070320-00070511 budgeted at just over one million ksdpIt65yvI-00283-00070512-00070659 dollars the ksdpIt65yvI-00284-00070660-00070959 1937-38 renovation introduced a brand ksdpIt65yvI-00285-00070960-00071215 new facade including the grand tudor ksdpIt65yvI-00286-00071216-00071455 entrance now facing southwest ksdpIt65yvI-00287-00071456-00071806 the entire west wing was rebuilt and 181 ksdpIt65yvI-00288-00071807-00071999 more guest rooms added bringing the ksdpIt65yvI-00289-00072000-00072343 total number of rooms to 310. ksdpIt65yvI-00290-00072344-00072567 the new design also included a larger ksdpIt65yvI-00291-00072568-00072847 parking garage a new lobby and reception ksdpIt65yvI-00292-00072848-00073247 area dining room pine room writing room ksdpIt65yvI-00293-00073248-00073543 palm court and a ballroom ksdpIt65yvI-00294-00073544-00073719 it was also the first hotel in the ksdpIt65yvI-00295-00073720-00073926 country to be engineered for air ksdpIt65yvI-00296-00073927-00074062 conditioning ksdpIt65yvI-00297-00074063-00074262 now it wasn't air conditioned like we ksdpIt65yvI-00298-00074263-00074471 know it today ksdpIt65yvI-00299-00074472-00074750 what they said when they're advertising ksdpIt65yvI-00300-00074751-00075150 was that it was there to assist people ksdpIt65yvI-00301-00075151-00075335 who had allergies ksdpIt65yvI-00302-00075336-00075511 so that's very different from what we ksdpIt65yvI-00303-00075512-00076071 have today today we just want cold rooms ksdpIt65yvI-00304-00076072-00076303 the lobby paneled an american black ksdpIt65yvI-00305-00076304-00076550 walnut was furnished for appearance and ksdpIt65yvI-00306-00076551-00076679 comfort ksdpIt65yvI-00307-00076680-00076879 the registration desk faced the front ksdpIt65yvI-00308-00076880-00076959 door ksdpIt65yvI-00309-00076960-00077175 above it a series of murals traced the ksdpIt65yvI-00310-00077176-00077455 history of the new world the mayflower ksdpIt65yvI-00311-00077456-00077719 pilgrims and indians john smith and ksdpIt65yvI-00312-00077720-00077847 pocahontas ksdpIt65yvI-00313-00077848-00078094 patrick henry and an old southern ksdpIt65yvI-00314-00078095-00078287 plantation ksdpIt65yvI-00315-00078288-00078543 the pine room was paneled in warm knotty ksdpIt65yvI-00316-00078544-00078806 pine and featured traditional prints and ksdpIt65yvI-00317-00078807-00078982 a painting of the roanoke valley that ksdpIt65yvI-00318-00078983-00079206 still hangs there today ksdpIt65yvI-00319-00079207-00079423 the glassed in porch became peacock ksdpIt65yvI-00320-00079424-00079671 alley and the garden site became the ksdpIt65yvI-00321-00079672-00079862 crystal ballroom ksdpIt65yvI-00322-00079863-00080038 the ballroom would become the heart of ksdpIt65yvI-00323-00080039-00080238 the hotel's business and social life as ksdpIt65yvI-00324-00080239-00080431 the years rolled on ksdpIt65yvI-00325-00080432-00080606 the dining room was located just about ksdpIt65yvI-00326-00080607-00080838 where it was originally but with a new ksdpIt65yvI-00327-00080839-00081094 curved bay facing north ksdpIt65yvI-00328-00081095-00081375 dogwood the virginia state blossom was ksdpIt65yvI-00329-00081376-00081550 used as the decorative motif and ksdpIt65yvI-00330-00081551-00081799 repeated in the design for the new china ksdpIt65yvI-00331-00081800-00082038 to this day the dogwood china pieces are ksdpIt65yvI-00332-00082039-00082287 a much-in-demand souvenir by hotel ksdpIt65yvI-00333-00082288-00082526 guests and collectors alike ksdpIt65yvI-00334-00082527-00082806 they're basically five variations of the ksdpIt65yvI-00335-00082807-00083062 dogwood pattern itself it may have been ksdpIt65yvI-00336-00083063-00083159 white ksdpIt65yvI-00337-00083160-00083438 it may have gone to a cream color over ksdpIt65yvI-00338-00083439-00083735 the years from the 1930s up ksdpIt65yvI-00339-00083736-00083991 all the way up through the 1970s which ksdpIt65yvI-00340-00083992-00084247 was actually used as a thicker china to ksdpIt65yvI-00341-00084248-00084487 the more elegant closer to bone china ksdpIt65yvI-00342-00084488-00084718 that was used to the original closing ksdpIt65yvI-00343-00084719-00084926 and then what they used today ksdpIt65yvI-00344-00084927-00085111 so people would come to roanoke just to ksdpIt65yvI-00345-00085112-00085318 go and buy one of the plates to say that ksdpIt65yvI-00346-00085319-00085615 they had been to the hotel roanoke ksdpIt65yvI-00347-00085616-00085911 a september 1938 menu listed breakfast ksdpIt65yvI-00348-00085912-00086247 prices ranging from 35 to 75 cents ksdpIt65yvI-00349-00086248-00086550 luncheon from 60 to 90 cents and dinner ksdpIt65yvI-00350-00086551-00086806 from a dollar ten to a dollar fifty ksdpIt65yvI-00351-00086807-00086975 rates for the rooms in the new wing ksdpIt65yvI-00352-00086976-00087182 began at three dollars and in the east ksdpIt65yvI-00353-00087183-00087343 wing at 250. ksdpIt65yvI-00354-00087344-00087543 [Music] ksdpIt65yvI-00355-00087544-00087743 with unveiling of the new west wing in ksdpIt65yvI-00356-00087744-00088055 1938 hotel roanoke entered the modern ksdpIt65yvI-00357-00088056-00088431 age its location ideal its reputation ksdpIt65yvI-00358-00088432-00088631 immaculate and growing ksdpIt65yvI-00359-00088632-00088806 with excellent service still at the ksdpIt65yvI-00360-00088807-00089118 heart of the grand old lady on the hill ksdpIt65yvI-00361-00089119-00089479 in june 1942 deacon brown assistant ksdpIt65yvI-00362-00089480-00089735 headwaiter celebrated 60 years of ksdpIt65yvI-00363-00089736-00089911 service with the hotel ksdpIt65yvI-00364-00089912-00090159 not far behind was william campbell who ksdpIt65yvI-00365-00090160-00090567 in 1948 celebrated his 45th anniversary ksdpIt65yvI-00366-00090568-00090815 like deacon brown campbell ii sent all ksdpIt65yvI-00367-00090816-00091071 of his children to college four sons and ksdpIt65yvI-00368-00091072-00091359 two daughters and like him enjoyed ksdpIt65yvI-00369-00091360-00091550 seeing his photograph on the front of a ksdpIt65yvI-00370-00091551-00091759 congratulatory menu ksdpIt65yvI-00371-00091760-00091999 for many service was a career and ksdpIt65yvI-00372-00092000-00092215 practically a lifetime commitment to the ksdpIt65yvI-00373-00092216-00092479 grand old lady ksdpIt65yvI-00374-00092480-00092647 another very committed member of the ksdpIt65yvI-00375-00092648-00092967 hotel team in those days was fred brown ksdpIt65yvI-00376-00092968-00093262 because in 1940 chef brown invented ksdpIt65yvI-00377-00093263-00093559 hotel roanoke's signature peanut soup ksdpIt65yvI-00378-00093560-00093815 favorable reaction was immediate and for ksdpIt65yvI-00379-00093816-00094023 time the recipe in which peanut butter ksdpIt65yvI-00380-00094024-00094247 was the main ingredient was a closely ksdpIt65yvI-00381-00094248-00094479 guarded secret but after hundreds of ksdpIt65yvI-00382-00094480-00094782 requests every year the recipe finally ksdpIt65yvI-00383-00094783-00094918 got printed ksdpIt65yvI-00384-00094919-00095191 and hasn't been much of a secret since ksdpIt65yvI-00385-00095192-00095399 it's safe to say that many chefs since ksdpIt65yvI-00386-00095400-00095606 the days of chef brown have tried to add ksdpIt65yvI-00387-00095607-00095782 their own twist to the famous peanut ksdpIt65yvI-00388-00095783-00096062 soup and many will try again ksdpIt65yvI-00389-00096063-00096287 obviously i came down here to interview ksdpIt65yvI-00390-00096288-00096487 i was having dinner with ksdpIt65yvI-00391-00096488-00096759 our human resources director so you know ksdpIt65yvI-00392-00096760-00096918 so when i see the peanut soup and of ksdpIt65yvI-00393-00096919-00097079 course me being a chef i'm like okay how ksdpIt65yvI-00394-00097080-00097255 can i tweak this how can i fancy this up ksdpIt65yvI-00395-00097256-00097503 how can i how can i put my twist on it ksdpIt65yvI-00396-00097504-00097759 she's like oh no no no no we don't touch ksdpIt65yvI-00397-00097760-00097982 a peanut soup recipe that's an heirloom ksdpIt65yvI-00398-00097983-00098159 recipe that's that we don't touch that ksdpIt65yvI-00399-00098160-00098294 i'm like hey but what if we did like a ksdpIt65yvI-00400-00098295-00098455 jelly crouton it was a peanut butter ksdpIt65yvI-00401-00098456-00098679 jelly soup and so on and she's like oh ksdpIt65yvI-00402-00098680-00098894 no no no the peanut soup is a peanut ksdpIt65yvI-00403-00098895-00099135 soup i'm like okay ksdpIt65yvI-00404-00099136-00099382 as for the spoon bread this savory dish ksdpIt65yvI-00405-00099383-00099711 isn't a bread at all it's like a custard ksdpIt65yvI-00406-00099712-00100006 like cornmeal custard it's creamy it's ksdpIt65yvI-00407-00100007-00100255 eggs and butter and cornmeal and where ksdpIt65yvI-00408-00100256-00100487 can you go wrong with that and it again ksdpIt65yvI-00409-00100488-00100662 people will come in and be like you got ksdpIt65yvI-00410-00100663-00100847 spoon bread today i'm like of course we ksdpIt65yvI-00411-00100848-00101006 do we serve our spoon bread seven days a ksdpIt65yvI-00412-00101007-00101271 week and if you don't have it ksdpIt65yvI-00413-00101272-00101759 you'll see me outside with an angry mob ksdpIt65yvI-00414-00101760-00101967 by the mid-40s the nation was deep in ksdpIt65yvI-00415-00101968-00102215 the throes of the second world war ksdpIt65yvI-00416-00102216-00102447 and the hotel did its part ksdpIt65yvI-00417-00102448-00102678 temporarily housing army air force and ksdpIt65yvI-00418-00102679-00102918 navy pilots taking classwork and flight ksdpIt65yvI-00419-00102919-00103223 instruction at roanoke's woodrum field ksdpIt65yvI-00420-00103224-00103439 well the amazing thing is that world war ksdpIt65yvI-00421-00103440-00103751 ii had a tremendous impact upon roanoke ksdpIt65yvI-00422-00103752-00104054 in that our airport was a national ksdpIt65yvI-00423-00104055-00104447 defense project and so there was a very ksdpIt65yvI-00424-00104448-00104694 large military presence here in the ksdpIt65yvI-00425-00104695-00104878 roanoke valley because of that at ksdpIt65yvI-00426-00104879-00105086 roanoke college we had the naval ksdpIt65yvI-00427-00105088-00105415 aviation cadet training program both a ksdpIt65yvI-00428-00105416-00105710 ground school and a flight school but ksdpIt65yvI-00429-00105711-00105878 yeah there was just a tremendous amount ksdpIt65yvI-00430-00105879-00106023 of military personnel here during world ksdpIt65yvI-00431-00106024-00106158 war ii ksdpIt65yvI-00432-00106159-00106383 officers and their families were housed ksdpIt65yvI-00433-00106383-00106534 in the south wing ksdpIt65yvI-00434-00106535-00106854 and fed in the regency room as residents ksdpIt65yvI-00435-00106855-00107086 for their relaxation the government took ksdpIt65yvI-00436-00107088-00107271 over the pine room to serve as an ksdpIt65yvI-00437-00107272-00107415 officers club ksdpIt65yvI-00438-00107416-00107615 in its own way the officers club ksdpIt65yvI-00439-00107616-00107883 contributed to roanoke social ksdpIt65yvI-00440-00107883-00108223 life after the war the officers and the ksdpIt65yvI-00441-00108224-00108551 pine room all returned to civilian life ksdpIt65yvI-00442-00108552-00108710 the war had barely ended when in ksdpIt65yvI-00443-00108711-00108999 september 1945 norfolk and western ksdpIt65yvI-00444-00109000-00109143 announced another million-dollar ksdpIt65yvI-00445-00109144-00109415 facelift this project involved mainly ksdpIt65yvI-00446-00109416-00109615 the replacement of the four-story wing ksdpIt65yvI-00447-00109616-00109831 parallel to the railroad tracks the ksdpIt65yvI-00448-00109832-00110151 south wing with one of five stories new ksdpIt65yvI-00449-00110152-00110502 guest rooms raised the total to 361. ksdpIt65yvI-00450-00110503-00110586 with the ksdpIt65yvI-00451-00110588-00110886 1946-47 work hotel roanoke became ksdpIt65yvI-00452-00110888-00111078 completely air-conditioned ksdpIt65yvI-00453-00111079-00111407 unlike the 1938 claim that the hotel was ksdpIt65yvI-00454-00111408-00111583 scientifically designed for air ksdpIt65yvI-00455-00111583-00111823 conditioning it seems clear that being ksdpIt65yvI-00456-00111824-00112078 designed for cooling and actually being ksdpIt65yvI-00457-00112079-00112431 cooled were two different things ksdpIt65yvI-00458-00112432-00112558 there was only one more major ksdpIt65yvI-00459-00112559-00112758 construction project undertaken before ksdpIt65yvI-00460-00112759-00113078 the hotel closed in 1989. a new ksdpIt65yvI-00461-00113079-00113295 five-storey and basement north wing was ksdpIt65yvI-00462-00113296-00113510 constructed parallel to jefferson street ksdpIt65yvI-00463-00113511-00113695 in 1955 ksdpIt65yvI-00464-00113696-00113886 primarily to accommodate increasing ksdpIt65yvI-00465-00113888-00114175 demand for larger convention facilities ksdpIt65yvI-00466-00114176-00114407 hotel management clearly felt that while ksdpIt65yvI-00467-00114408-00114575 guests and their families would always ksdpIt65yvI-00468-00114576-00114823 be welcome and pampered by its trademark ksdpIt65yvI-00469-00114824-00115063 service and hospitality the nation's ksdpIt65yvI-00470-00115064-00115295 changing business practices had created ksdpIt65yvI-00471-00115296-00116031 a booming convention trade ksdpIt65yvI-00472-00116032-00116207 meetings and conventions have been part ksdpIt65yvI-00473-00116208-00116407 of the hotel roanoke's business model ksdpIt65yvI-00474-00116408-00116599 since the very early days ksdpIt65yvI-00475-00116600-00116807 the aim then to put guests in the rooms ksdpIt65yvI-00476-00116808-00117058 and diners at the tables was the same in ksdpIt65yvI-00477-00117059-00117239 1952 ksdpIt65yvI-00478-00117240-00117399 in the thriving post-war business ksdpIt65yvI-00479-00117400-00117654 climate the hotel produced and widely ksdpIt65yvI-00480-00117655-00117927 distributed a film called hospitality ksdpIt65yvI-00481-00117928-00118078 unlimited ksdpIt65yvI-00482-00118079-00118271 it was aimed at the convention market ksdpIt65yvI-00483-00118272-00118502 and showed off the hotel and its many ksdpIt65yvI-00484-00118503-00118727 guest services although sometimes ksdpIt65yvI-00485-00118728-00119071 exaggerating the storyline to do so ksdpIt65yvI-00486-00119072-00119302 the beautiful completely air-conditioned ksdpIt65yvI-00487-00119303-00119478 hotel roanoke ksdpIt65yvI-00488-00119479-00119702 hospitality unlimited with its dated ksdpIt65yvI-00489-00119703-00119990 charm features hotel guests arriving on ksdpIt65yvI-00490-00119991-00120223 a passenger train hauled by a norfolk ksdpIt65yvI-00491-00120224-00120478 and western class j engine ksdpIt65yvI-00492-00120479-00120607 the ksdpIt65yvI-00493-00120608-00120934 wearing hats gloves and furs ksdpIt65yvI-00494-00120935-00121166 bellman escort the guests to their rooms ksdpIt65yvI-00495-00121167-00121375 and point out the new amenities ksdpIt65yvI-00496-00121376-00121558 like air conditioning and the ksdpIt65yvI-00497-00121559-00121854 individually wrapped drinking glasses ksdpIt65yvI-00498-00121855-00122071 when the guests order dinner the film ksdpIt65yvI-00499-00122072-00122286 features the exclusive dogwood pattern ksdpIt65yvI-00500-00122288-00122558 china even a machine that manufactures ksdpIt65yvI-00501-00122559-00122647 ice ksdpIt65yvI-00502-00122648-00122927 never touched by human hands ksdpIt65yvI-00503-00122928-00123078 while the business meetings are taking ksdpIt65yvI-00504-00123079-00123166 place ksdpIt65yvI-00505-00123167-00123366 the women are manicured in the beauty ksdpIt65yvI-00506-00123367-00123614 shop play bridge in the pine room ksdpIt65yvI-00507-00123615-00123831 and write postcards to friends and ksdpIt65yvI-00508-00123832-00124031 family back home ksdpIt65yvI-00509-00124032-00124223 some of the men possibly skipping the ksdpIt65yvI-00510-00124224-00124423 business session or in the barber shop ksdpIt65yvI-00511-00124424-00124583 or in the health club ksdpIt65yvI-00512-00124583-00124847 one in shirt and tie no less is working ksdpIt65yvI-00513-00124848-00125095 out on a stationary bicycle another ksdpIt65yvI-00514-00125096-00125334 presumably not wearing a shirt and tie ksdpIt65yvI-00515-00125335-00125543 is in the steam bath and a third is ksdpIt65yvI-00516-00125544-00125863 getting a rub down feeling like a minion ksdpIt65yvI-00517-00125864-00126083 the second film produced in ksdpIt65yvI-00518-00126083-00126343 1963 shows off new facilities and ksdpIt65yvI-00519-00126344-00126631 amenities including tv sets in each room ksdpIt65yvI-00520-00126632-00126871 and telephone message lights an exhibit ksdpIt65yvI-00521-00126872-00127151 hall designed to handle large displays ksdpIt65yvI-00522-00127152-00127286 the motor inn ksdpIt65yvI-00523-00127288-00127599 and a new swimming pool ksdpIt65yvI-00524-00127600-00127902 in opening the motor inn in 1963 the ksdpIt65yvI-00525-00127903-00128175 hotel tried to follow a national trend ksdpIt65yvI-00526-00128176-00128399 hotels were losing business to the new ksdpIt65yvI-00527-00128400-00128647 booming motel industry and so started ksdpIt65yvI-00528-00128648-00128934 calling themselves motor hotels or motor ksdpIt65yvI-00529-00128935-00129175 inns in an effort to appeal to the ksdpIt65yvI-00530-00129176-00129383 automobile traveler ksdpIt65yvI-00531-00129383-00129527 and they had a certain number of rooms ksdpIt65yvI-00532-00129528-00129663 set aside ksdpIt65yvI-00533-00129664-00129886 they had parking right outside ksdpIt65yvI-00534-00129888-00130143 they suddenly realized that they needed ksdpIt65yvI-00535-00130144-00130302 three shifts a day ksdpIt65yvI-00536-00130303-00130454 to handle this ksdpIt65yvI-00537-00130455-00130647 with very little business ksdpIt65yvI-00538-00130648-00130966 it lasted a very short time ksdpIt65yvI-00539-00130967-00131223 it just could not compete ksdpIt65yvI-00540-00131224-00131551 with places on the highway ksdpIt65yvI-00541-00131552-00131759 changes and improvements steady and ksdpIt65yvI-00542-00131760-00132023 costly continued through the 1960s and ksdpIt65yvI-00543-00132024-00132287 beyond in order to make the hotel along ksdpIt65yvI-00544-00132288-00132527 with its ambiance cuisine and other ksdpIt65yvI-00545-00132528-00132775 amenities more attractive to meeting and ksdpIt65yvI-00546-00132776-00132999 wedding planners alike ksdpIt65yvI-00547-00133000-00133239 hotel roanoke has always been in very ksdpIt65yvI-00548-00133240-00133527 high demand for ceremonies receptions ksdpIt65yvI-00549-00133528-00133831 and family gatherings this was a special ksdpIt65yvI-00550-00133832-00134039 place for my parents because this was ksdpIt65yvI-00551-00134040-00134311 they had their first date here and then ksdpIt65yvI-00552-00134312-00134543 their wedding reception it was the site ksdpIt65yvI-00553-00134544-00134831 of many many uh family occasions and ksdpIt65yvI-00554-00134832-00135071 special dinners out and when we would ksdpIt65yvI-00555-00135072-00135359 come to the hotel for dinner we would ksdpIt65yvI-00556-00135360-00135527 have to you know for several nights ksdpIt65yvI-00557-00135528-00135678 leading up to it have to practice our ksdpIt65yvI-00558-00135679-00135902 hotel roanoke manors ksdpIt65yvI-00559-00135903-00136190 i was five years old it was a wonderful ksdpIt65yvI-00560-00136191-00136375 place to learn about manners because for ksdpIt65yvI-00561-00136376-00136607 one thing you dressed up for dinner ksdpIt65yvI-00562-00136608-00136902 you came into a formal setting the table ksdpIt65yvI-00563-00136903-00137095 was set very nicely ksdpIt65yvI-00564-00137096-00137383 and you sat down put your napkin in your ksdpIt65yvI-00565-00137384-00137478 lap ksdpIt65yvI-00566-00137479-00137678 and you had to ksdpIt65yvI-00567-00137679-00137990 learn which fork to use and which when ksdpIt65yvI-00568-00137991-00138190 to use your knife and it was a wonderful ksdpIt65yvI-00569-00138191-00138383 place to ksdpIt65yvI-00570-00138384-00138583 to experience ksdpIt65yvI-00571-00138584-00138735 something ksdpIt65yvI-00572-00138736-00139023 very special and formal ksdpIt65yvI-00573-00139024-00139199 there were so many weddings during his ksdpIt65yvI-00574-00139200-00139463 time at the hotel that billy davis was ksdpIt65yvI-00575-00139464-00139695 known to say that he had handled so many ksdpIt65yvI-00576-00139696-00139878 weddings and receptions in his job as ksdpIt65yvI-00577-00139879-00140111 assistant banquet manager that he could ksdpIt65yvI-00578-00140112-00140439 virtually cry on request ksdpIt65yvI-00579-00140440-00140663 and yet with all of that there was once ksdpIt65yvI-00580-00140664-00140878 even a funeral at the hotel ksdpIt65yvI-00581-00140879-00141078 clearly not as joyful indication as the ksdpIt65yvI-00582-00141079-00141319 weddings it nevertheless reflected the ksdpIt65yvI-00583-00141320-00141607 familial and personal hold the hotel had ksdpIt65yvI-00584-00141608-00141775 on his guests ksdpIt65yvI-00585-00141776-00141966 like the former roanoke music teacher ksdpIt65yvI-00586-00141967-00142199 who'd retired and moved to florida ksdpIt65yvI-00587-00142200-00142407 every year she'd return to roanoke and ksdpIt65yvI-00588-00142408-00142575 spend several weeks of the summer at the ksdpIt65yvI-00589-00142576-00142702 hotel ksdpIt65yvI-00590-00142703-00142951 she had said that she hoped when she ksdpIt65yvI-00591-00142952-00143295 died her ashes could be scattered on the ksdpIt65yvI-00592-00143296-00143502 hotel flower beds ksdpIt65yvI-00593-00143503-00143671 so when the time came ksdpIt65yvI-00594-00143672-00143927 her family gave a luncheon here at the ksdpIt65yvI-00595-00143928-00144063 hotel ksdpIt65yvI-00596-00144064-00144271 after which her friends stood on the ksdpIt65yvI-00597-00144272-00144535 porch and watched as the family walked ksdpIt65yvI-00598-00144536-00144790 down and scattered her ashes among the ksdpIt65yvI-00599-00144791-00144990 flower beds ksdpIt65yvI-00600-00144991-00145199 it just showed that there were people ksdpIt65yvI-00601-00145200-00145447 who once they came to the hotel ksdpIt65yvI-00602-00145448-00145775 really had a hard time leaving ksdpIt65yvI-00603-00145776-00146039 celebrating and grieving families aside ksdpIt65yvI-00604-00146040-00146311 hotel roanoke had many supporters in its ksdpIt65yvI-00605-00146312-00146566 steady efforts to fill the rooms one of ksdpIt65yvI-00606-00146567-00146759 course was the railroad itself the ksdpIt65yvI-00607-00146760-00146959 norfolk and western's board of directors ksdpIt65yvI-00608-00146960-00147183 met at the hotel regularly and the ksdpIt65yvI-00609-00147184-00147366 company's principal and largest ksdpIt65yvI-00610-00147367-00147599 gathering for many years was the annual ksdpIt65yvI-00611-00147600-00147831 better service conference ksdpIt65yvI-00612-00147832-00148023 another major source of business was the ksdpIt65yvI-00613-00148024-00148239 miss virginia organization ksdpIt65yvI-00614-00148240-00148639 in 1953 the junior women's club was the ksdpIt65yvI-00615-00148640-00149007 first group to have that back in 1953 ksdpIt65yvI-00616-00149008-00149183 and the first pageants were held right ksdpIt65yvI-00617-00149184-00149407 here in hotel roanoke in the old crystal ksdpIt65yvI-00618-00149408-00149526 ballroom ksdpIt65yvI-00619-00149527-00149743 and uh so ksdpIt65yvI-00620-00149744-00149911 the love relationship between the miss ksdpIt65yvI-00621-00149912-00150102 virginia pageant and hotel running ksdpIt65yvI-00622-00150103-00150390 started a long time ago ksdpIt65yvI-00623-00150391-00150639 hotel roanoke until recently remained ksdpIt65yvI-00624-00150640-00150887 the headquarters for the contestants ksdpIt65yvI-00625-00150888-00151111 each knew miss virginia had the use of a ksdpIt65yvI-00626-00151112-00151295 suite in the hotel for the year of her ksdpIt65yvI-00627-00151296-00151735 reign ksdpIt65yvI-00628-00151736-00152007 tylene barker the first miss virginia to ksdpIt65yvI-00629-00152008-00152319 become miss america in 1978 was given ksdpIt65yvI-00630-00152320-00152599 further special treatment by the hotel ksdpIt65yvI-00631-00152600-00152926 and so i came back to southwest virginia ksdpIt65yvI-00632-00152927-00153263 uh to pulaski county my hometown of ksdpIt65yvI-00633-00153264-00153614 galax and of course stayed here at the ksdpIt65yvI-00634-00153615-00153871 hotel roanoke because it was the home of ksdpIt65yvI-00635-00153872-00154007 miss virginia ksdpIt65yvI-00636-00154008-00154102 so ksdpIt65yvI-00637-00154103-00154295 they didn't tell me this and it was such ksdpIt65yvI-00638-00154296-00154671 an incredible surprise but i checked in ksdpIt65yvI-00639-00154672-00154902 and they led me down the hall ksdpIt65yvI-00640-00154903-00155223 and they had remodeled a whole suite for ksdpIt65yvI-00641-00155224-00155439 me and it was called the miss america ksdpIt65yvI-00642-00155440-00155807 suite so anytime i came back into this ksdpIt65yvI-00643-00155808-00156063 area and stayed at hotel roanoke i got ksdpIt65yvI-00644-00156064-00156278 to stay in my own suite the miss america ksdpIt65yvI-00645-00156279-00156365 suite ksdpIt65yvI-00646-00156366-00156392 [Music] ksdpIt65yvI-00647-00156393-00156823 [Applause] ksdpIt65yvI-00648-00156824-00157223 by 1985 hotel roanoke was struggling ksdpIt65yvI-00649-00157224-00157454 john fishwick although retired as ksdpIt65yvI-00650-00157455-00157695 norfolk and western's chairman was asked ksdpIt65yvI-00651-00157696-00157959 by top brass to return to roanoke and ksdpIt65yvI-00652-00157960-00158207 oversee the hotel operations and to ksdpIt65yvI-00653-00158208-00158478 determine what if anything could be done ksdpIt65yvI-00654-00158479-00158687 with the property which had been losing ksdpIt65yvI-00655-00158688-00158926 money annual losses frequently ksdpIt65yvI-00656-00158927-00159159 approached the one million dollar mark ksdpIt65yvI-00657-00159160-00159375 fishwick's first priority was to find ksdpIt65yvI-00658-00159376-00159559 the right person to lead the hotel ksdpIt65yvI-00659-00159560-00159783 toward a more successful and profitable ksdpIt65yvI-00660-00159784-00160102 future he found doreen hamilton whose ksdpIt65yvI-00661-00160103-00160343 forte was cost cutting and tight ksdpIt65yvI-00662-00160344-00160511 accurate budgeting ksdpIt65yvI-00663-00160512-00160607 i ksdpIt65yvI-00664-00160608-00160831 was asked to come and look at the hotel ksdpIt65yvI-00665-00160832-00161078 i had no intention of leaving the north ksdpIt65yvI-00666-00161079-00161439 i was managing director of a hotel in ksdpIt65yvI-00667-00161440-00161671 philadelphia and finally ksdpIt65yvI-00668-00161672-00161919 i decided i would come and look at it ksdpIt65yvI-00669-00161920-00162231 so i met a mr fishwick and i looked the ksdpIt65yvI-00670-00162232-00162511 hotel over and they were very kind to me ksdpIt65yvI-00671-00162512-00162751 because they let me look at the books ksdpIt65yvI-00672-00162752-00162831 and ksdpIt65yvI-00673-00162832-00163087 they opened up everything to me ksdpIt65yvI-00674-00163088-00163447 on january 1 1986 hamilton became the ksdpIt65yvI-00675-00163448-00163726 new general manager of the hotel roanoke ksdpIt65yvI-00676-00163727-00163911 the workforce she was to manage was ksdpIt65yvI-00677-00163912-00164126 still shaken from a six month long ksdpIt65yvI-00678-00164127-00164351 strike a few years earlier ksdpIt65yvI-00679-00164352-00164566 they were striking against working ksdpIt65yvI-00680-00164567-00164695 conditions ksdpIt65yvI-00681-00164696-00164911 and wages ksdpIt65yvI-00682-00164912-00165254 the declining occupancy in the hotel ksdpIt65yvI-00683-00165255-00165495 had made it impossible ksdpIt65yvI-00684-00165496-00165775 to keep all the full-time employees ksdpIt65yvI-00685-00165776-00165990 and they had to keep wage increases at a ksdpIt65yvI-00686-00165991-00166111 minimum ksdpIt65yvI-00687-00166112-00166278 the strike went on ksdpIt65yvI-00688-00166279-00166454 for six months ksdpIt65yvI-00689-00166455-00166702 and it ended in april ksdpIt65yvI-00690-00166703-00166935 1984 ksdpIt65yvI-00691-00166936-00167031 after ksdpIt65yvI-00692-00167032-00167311 a settlement was reached ksdpIt65yvI-00693-00167312-00167575 the employees i think ksdpIt65yvI-00694-00167576-00167807 suffered badly ksdpIt65yvI-00695-00167808-00168063 as you do in any strike but the hotel ksdpIt65yvI-00696-00168064-00168247 also suffered badly ksdpIt65yvI-00697-00168248-00168438 but hamilton was quick to put those ksdpIt65yvI-00698-00168439-00168687 matters aside for the time being and ksdpIt65yvI-00699-00168688-00168959 concentrated her efforts on the finances ksdpIt65yvI-00700-00168960-00169207 aside from collecting unpaid debts the ksdpIt65yvI-00701-00169208-00169535 hotel needed work rooms were redecorated ksdpIt65yvI-00702-00169536-00169814 the regency room was updated hamilton ksdpIt65yvI-00703-00169815-00170054 also managed to negotiate a new contract ksdpIt65yvI-00704-00170055-00170295 for employees so morale was on the ksdpIt65yvI-00705-00170296-00170526 upswing things were looking good for the ksdpIt65yvI-00706-00170527-00170638 hotel ksdpIt65yvI-00707-00170639-00170887 and before we knew it we had business in ksdpIt65yvI-00708-00170888-00171214 1987 and 1988 ksdpIt65yvI-00709-00171215-00171343 we spent ksdpIt65yvI-00710-00171344-00171543 over a million dollars ksdpIt65yvI-00711-00171544-00171759 in decorating and taking care of the ksdpIt65yvI-00712-00171760-00172078 hotel and all of that money ksdpIt65yvI-00713-00172079-00172366 was generated from the internal cash ksdpIt65yvI-00714-00172367-00172599 flow of the hotel ksdpIt65yvI-00715-00172600-00172863 so we had turned a corner ksdpIt65yvI-00716-00172864-00173031 but we weren't sure how long that would ksdpIt65yvI-00717-00173032-00173159 last ksdpIt65yvI-00718-00173160-00173399 at the same time such earnings as the ksdpIt65yvI-00719-00173400-00173654 hotel was generating clearly were not ksdpIt65yvI-00720-00173655-00173854 enough to finance a major capital ksdpIt65yvI-00721-00173855-00174135 expenditure the 35 million dollars ksdpIt65yvI-00722-00174136-00174326 needed for a new heating and cooling ksdpIt65yvI-00723-00174327-00174590 system the principal source of guest ksdpIt65yvI-00724-00174591-00174807 complaints a system that had been ksdpIt65yvI-00725-00174808-00175119 installed in 1937 ksdpIt65yvI-00726-00175120-00175366 our supply of steam that was coming for ksdpIt65yvI-00727-00175367-00175638 the heat came from the railroad ksdpIt65yvI-00728-00175639-00175943 underground to this hotel ksdpIt65yvI-00729-00175944-00176190 and it wasn't adequate and we keep ksdpIt65yvI-00730-00176191-00176423 calling for more and more steam and even ksdpIt65yvI-00731-00176424-00176654 though we were paying for it it wasn't ksdpIt65yvI-00732-00176655-00176783 enough ksdpIt65yvI-00733-00176784-00176959 so we knew ksdpIt65yvI-00734-00176960-00177102 that we were going to have to do ksdpIt65yvI-00735-00177103-00177311 something there was no way we could ksdpIt65yvI-00736-00177312-00177543 generate that kind of cash ksdpIt65yvI-00737-00177544-00177775 norfolk and western now norfolk southern ksdpIt65yvI-00738-00177776-00178102 following a merger in 1982 had no plans ksdpIt65yvI-00739-00178103-00178295 to invest tens of millions of dollars ksdpIt65yvI-00740-00178296-00178478 into a hotel ksdpIt65yvI-00741-00178479-00178631 norfolk southern ksdpIt65yvI-00742-00178632-00178814 by the late 80s ksdpIt65yvI-00743-00178815-00179095 was a much larger far different ksdpIt65yvI-00744-00179096-00179311 railroad than the norfolk and western ksdpIt65yvI-00745-00179312-00179638 that i came to work for in 1965 ksdpIt65yvI-00746-00179639-00179935 things had changed a lot the hotel of ksdpIt65yvI-00747-00179936-00180166 course was still an icon and an ksdpIt65yvI-00748-00180167-00180319 important ksdpIt65yvI-00749-00180320-00180614 factor in roanoke and an important ksdpIt65yvI-00750-00180615-00180863 thing for the for the railroad because ksdpIt65yvI-00751-00180864-00181014 it was a symbol ksdpIt65yvI-00752-00181015-00181335 and uh and an identification ksdpIt65yvI-00753-00181336-00181583 while it was a nice holding ksdpIt65yvI-00754-00181584-00181871 the hotel roanoke was not ksdpIt65yvI-00755-00181872-00182111 large enough nor was it part of the core ksdpIt65yvI-00756-00182112-00182247 operations ksdpIt65yvI-00757-00182248-00182335 of a ksdpIt65yvI-00758-00182336-00182478 of a large ksdpIt65yvI-00759-00182479-00182831 railroad transportation company so the ksdpIt65yvI-00760-00182832-00183031 idea was that ksdpIt65yvI-00761-00183032-00183295 the hotel was really a management ksdpIt65yvI-00762-00183296-00183478 distraction ksdpIt65yvI-00763-00183479-00183695 norfolk southern wanted out of the hotel ksdpIt65yvI-00764-00183696-00183943 business and the hotel roanoke was on ksdpIt65yvI-00765-00183944-00184087 the chopping block ksdpIt65yvI-00766-00184088-00184311 well when i heard the news that ksdpIt65yvI-00767-00184312-00184471 the hotel ksdpIt65yvI-00768-00184472-00184631 in particular the railroad had made a ksdpIt65yvI-00769-00184632-00184863 decision not to invest any more money in ksdpIt65yvI-00770-00184864-00185166 the hotel and that they were going to go ksdpIt65yvI-00771-00185167-00185431 through perhaps a year-long process to ksdpIt65yvI-00772-00185432-00185719 close the hotel ksdpIt65yvI-00773-00185720-00186007 my initial concern really was about how ksdpIt65yvI-00774-00186008-00186223 it might affect the downtown ksdpIt65yvI-00775-00186224-00186487 area being immediately adjacent ksdpIt65yvI-00776-00186488-00186695 and what it would do to the general ksdpIt65yvI-00777-00186696-00186943 well-being of the of the community ksdpIt65yvI-00778-00186944-00187151 but roanoke residents would have none of ksdpIt65yvI-00779-00187152-00187447 it and behind the scenes roanokers ksdpIt65yvI-00780-00187448-00187654 pleaded with city council to find a way ksdpIt65yvI-00781-00187655-00187959 to save the hotel council members placed ksdpIt65yvI-00782-00187960-00188231 that burden on the city manager ksdpIt65yvI-00783-00188232-00188423 and slowly came back ksdpIt65yvI-00784-00188424-00188654 to me over a matter of months ksdpIt65yvI-00785-00188655-00188975 and said bob we've just lost too many ksdpIt65yvI-00786-00188976-00189207 icons in roanoke too many important ksdpIt65yvI-00787-00189208-00189463 buildings and the public really has ksdpIt65yvI-00788-00189464-00189711 genuine interest in seeing that this ksdpIt65yvI-00789-00189712-00189911 project ksdpIt65yvI-00790-00189912-00190102 not closed ksdpIt65yvI-00791-00190103-00190326 and that if anybody is going to try and ksdpIt65yvI-00792-00190327-00190550 develop the property we want you to ksdpIt65yvI-00793-00190551-00190663 explore ksdpIt65yvI-00794-00190664-00190863 on behalf of city government ksdpIt65yvI-00795-00190864-00190999 the development of the property so ksdpIt65yvI-00796-00191000-00191159 that's really how i got ksdpIt65yvI-00797-00191160-00191314 involved ksdpIt65yvI-00798-00191315-00191575 simultaneously the city was in desperate ksdpIt65yvI-00799-00191576-00191799 need of a large modern state-of-the-art ksdpIt65yvI-00800-00191800-00192031 conference center if it was to compete ksdpIt65yvI-00801-00192032-00192271 with larger convention cities ksdpIt65yvI-00802-00192272-00192487 several studies were conducted and it ksdpIt65yvI-00803-00192488-00192663 was determined that roanoke could ksdpIt65yvI-00804-00192664-00192911 support such a facility if there was a ksdpIt65yvI-00805-00192912-00193254 larger more modern hotel to support it ksdpIt65yvI-00806-00193255-00193511 modern being the operative word which at ksdpIt65yvI-00807-00193512-00193702 that time would eliminate the hotel ksdpIt65yvI-00808-00193703-00193935 roanoke as she then stood ksdpIt65yvI-00809-00193936-00194295 it was definitely tired and needed ksdpIt65yvI-00810-00194296-00194423 renovation ksdpIt65yvI-00811-00194424-00194654 you would find amenities that did not ksdpIt65yvI-00812-00194655-00194902 match that of other facilities it was ksdpIt65yvI-00813-00194903-00195078 very outdated ksdpIt65yvI-00814-00195079-00195359 by the late 1980s virginia tech's ksdpIt65yvI-00815-00195360-00195663 incoming president dr james mccomas was ksdpIt65yvI-00816-00195664-00195871 wrapping up his stint as president of ksdpIt65yvI-00817-00195872-00196143 the university of toledo he had not yet ksdpIt65yvI-00818-00196144-00196366 left one for the other ksdpIt65yvI-00819-00196367-00196647 warner dollhouse ceo at dominion bank ksdpIt65yvI-00820-00196648-00196911 shares was eager to add mccomas to his ksdpIt65yvI-00821-00196912-00197078 board of directors ksdpIt65yvI-00822-00197079-00197311 dollhouse and his vice chairman david ksdpIt65yvI-00823-00197312-00197614 cadell flew to toledo to make the offer ksdpIt65yvI-00824-00197615-00197887 and as a courtesy invited roanoke mayor ksdpIt65yvI-00825-00197888-00198159 noel taylor and city manager herbert to ksdpIt65yvI-00826-00198160-00198278 go along ksdpIt65yvI-00827-00198279-00198502 caudell and herbert saw the trip as a ksdpIt65yvI-00828-00198503-00198695 chance to explore the new president's ksdpIt65yvI-00829-00198696-00198911 interest in the hotel conference center ksdpIt65yvI-00830-00198912-00199319 issue we wanted to convey to him ksdpIt65yvI-00831-00199320-00199502 the ksdpIt65yvI-00832-00199503-00199695 the total value ksdpIt65yvI-00833-00199696-00199863 of this hotel ksdpIt65yvI-00834-00199864-00200199 and its proximity to blacksburg and its ksdpIt65yvI-00835-00200200-00200423 importance to western virginia both the ksdpIt65yvI-00836-00200424-00200638 roanoke valley and the new river valley ksdpIt65yvI-00837-00200639-00200854 he grasped that very quickly ksdpIt65yvI-00838-00200855-00201135 in fact the overall concept was ksdpIt65yvI-00839-00201136-00201311 to persuade him ksdpIt65yvI-00840-00201312-00201423 that it was ksdpIt65yvI-00841-00201424-00201766 essential to virginia tech's future ksdpIt65yvI-00842-00201767-00202214 that tech and the roanoke valley be wed ksdpIt65yvI-00843-00202215-00202431 and work very closely together ksdpIt65yvI-00844-00202432-00202726 and he he grasped that right away ksdpIt65yvI-00845-00202727-00202935 herbert reminded mccomas of virginia ksdpIt65yvI-00846-00202936-00203119 tech's mission as a land-grant ksdpIt65yvI-00847-00203120-00203414 university the commonwealth as a campus ksdpIt65yvI-00848-00203415-00203719 continuing education and outreach ksdpIt65yvI-00849-00203720-00203959 mccomas had no need of the sales pitch ksdpIt65yvI-00850-00203960-00204278 however his own university of toledo had ksdpIt65yvI-00851-00204279-00204478 earlier become involved in a similar ksdpIt65yvI-00852-00204479-00204799 role with the city and an existing hotel ksdpIt65yvI-00853-00204800-00205079 and excitedly he talks about a project ksdpIt65yvI-00854-00205080-00205334 that he had with general motors ksdpIt65yvI-00855-00205335-00205638 and the university of toledo to do ksdpIt65yvI-00856-00205639-00205990 education programming saving two older ksdpIt65yvI-00857-00205991-00206319 kind of high-rise holiday n-type ksdpIt65yvI-00858-00206319-00206534 icons not historically ksdpIt65yvI-00859-00206535-00206798 important as is the hotel roanoke begins ksdpIt65yvI-00860-00206800-00207023 to explain the role that the university ksdpIt65yvI-00861-00207023-00207366 plays in re-educating ksdpIt65yvI-00862-00207367-00207686 gm workers who were moving from the old ksdpIt65yvI-00863-00207687-00208055 automobiles and educating in how to put ksdpIt65yvI-00864-00208056-00208327 and work with computers in the new cars ksdpIt65yvI-00865-00208328-00208551 he was able to show the roanokers how ksdpIt65yvI-00866-00208552-00208775 old hotel properties had been converted ksdpIt65yvI-00867-00208776-00209014 to service education and training ksdpIt65yvI-00868-00209015-00209158 facilities ksdpIt65yvI-00869-00209159-00209262 and jim ksdpIt65yvI-00870-00209263-00209423 after the visit ksdpIt65yvI-00871-00209423-00209503 from ksdpIt65yvI-00872-00209504-00209775 the individuals here in roanoke ksdpIt65yvI-00873-00209776-00210079 called and asked me to come to toledo ksdpIt65yvI-00874-00210080-00210342 to help prepare him for his ksdpIt65yvI-00875-00210344-00210558 transition to virginia tech ksdpIt65yvI-00876-00210559-00210815 but jim said minutes i'd like for you to ksdpIt65yvI-00877-00210816-00211031 give some real serious thought to this ksdpIt65yvI-00878-00211032-00211294 to work with the folks in roanoke ksdpIt65yvI-00879-00211296-00211519 and see if there's a possibility that we ksdpIt65yvI-00880-00211519-00211806 could establish a relationship ksdpIt65yvI-00881-00211807-00211982 especially in view of the fact that ksdpIt65yvI-00882-00211983-00212167 you've shared with me that ksdpIt65yvI-00883-00212167-00212382 the university has been thinking of ksdpIt65yvI-00884-00212383-00212727 establishing a new conferencing presence ksdpIt65yvI-00885-00212728-00212998 with mccomas now in place in blacksburg ksdpIt65yvI-00886-00213000-00213198 the university was prepared to move ksdpIt65yvI-00887-00213200-00213303 ahead ksdpIt65yvI-00888-00213304-00213487 i started meeting with the ksdpIt65yvI-00889-00213488-00213823 individuals here in roanoke ksdpIt65yvI-00890-00213823-00214023 made it very clear that ksdpIt65yvI-00891-00214023-00214198 if we were to do this it would be a ksdpIt65yvI-00892-00214200-00214439 conferencing center where we would ksdpIt65yvI-00893-00214440-00214646 expand our focus in ksdpIt65yvI-00894-00214648-00214894 conferencing which means ksdpIt65yvI-00895-00214896-00215087 basically non-credit ksdpIt65yvI-00896-00215088-00215215 education ksdpIt65yvI-00897-00215216-00215391 and ties in with ksdpIt65yvI-00898-00215392-00215567 good quality ksdpIt65yvI-00899-00215567-00215682 at higher ksdpIt65yvI-00900-00215683-00215975 education thinking along the same lines ksdpIt65yvI-00901-00215976-00216223 was norfolk southern's man in the hotel ksdpIt65yvI-00902-00216223-00216455 john fishwick though primarily ksdpIt65yvI-00903-00216456-00216679 representing norfolk southern's interest ksdpIt65yvI-00904-00216680-00216887 he wanted to find a way to fill the need ksdpIt65yvI-00905-00216888-00217142 for a major meeting facility settle the ksdpIt65yvI-00906-00217144-00217398 hotel dilemma and at the same time ksdpIt65yvI-00907-00217400-00217655 promote tech's own goals ksdpIt65yvI-00908-00217656-00217894 on his own and without any backing or ksdpIt65yvI-00909-00217896-00218103 authorization from norfolk southern ksdpIt65yvI-00910-00218104-00218334 fishwick asked if virginia tech would ksdpIt65yvI-00911-00218335-00218823 consider accepting the hotel as a gift ksdpIt65yvI-00912-00218823-00219271 on july 26 1989 arnold b mckinnon ksdpIt65yvI-00913-00219271-00219503 chairman of the board and ceo of norfolk ksdpIt65yvI-00914-00219504-00219791 southern corporation alongside dr james ksdpIt65yvI-00915-00219792-00220071 mccomas president of virginia tech and ksdpIt65yvI-00916-00220071-00220342 roanoke city mayor noel c taylor held a ksdpIt65yvI-00917-00220344-00220534 press conference in the hotel's pine ksdpIt65yvI-00918-00220535-00220646 room ksdpIt65yvI-00919-00220648-00220815 norfolk southern corporation would ksdpIt65yvI-00920-00220816-00221151 donate its 107 year old hotel roanoke to ksdpIt65yvI-00921-00221152-00221415 virginia tech to be turned into a major ksdpIt65yvI-00922-00221416-00221671 facility for conferences and continuing ksdpIt65yvI-00923-00221671-00221879 education ksdpIt65yvI-00924-00221880-00222175 a sad end and a brave beginning for the ksdpIt65yvI-00925-00222176-00222339 hotel roanoke ksdpIt65yvI-00926-00222340-00222806 [Music] ksdpIt65yvI-00927-00222807-00223063 five months later doreen hamilton now ksdpIt65yvI-00928-00223064-00223310 mrs john fishwick found herself ksdpIt65yvI-00929-00223311-00223527 operating the hotel roanoke while ksdpIt65yvI-00930-00223528-00223782 simultaneously preparing to shut it down ksdpIt65yvI-00931-00223783-00224087 on november the 30th 1989. ksdpIt65yvI-00932-00224088-00224327 well there were a lot of to-do lists ksdpIt65yvI-00933-00224328-00224519 firstly we had to cancel all the ksdpIt65yvI-00934-00224519-00224782 reservations that we had on the books ksdpIt65yvI-00935-00224783-00224982 after the closing ksdpIt65yvI-00936-00224983-00225175 we had to notify those people that we ksdpIt65yvI-00937-00225176-00225382 would not be around ksdpIt65yvI-00938-00225383-00225598 along with many pressing matters there ksdpIt65yvI-00939-00225600-00225758 was the question of a financial ksdpIt65yvI-00940-00225759-00225998 settlement for employees ksdpIt65yvI-00941-00226000-00226215 second third and fourth generations ksdpIt65yvI-00942-00226216-00226415 worked at the hotel and there were no ksdpIt65yvI-00943-00226416-00226663 provisions for severance pay ksdpIt65yvI-00944-00226664-00226846 fishwick felt strongly that the ksdpIt65yvI-00945-00226848-00227055 employees deserve better ksdpIt65yvI-00946-00227056-00227310 and before long norfolk southern and the ksdpIt65yvI-00947-00227311-00227542 employees union reached a deal ksdpIt65yvI-00948-00227544-00227839 business continued as usual they assured ksdpIt65yvI-00949-00227840-00227927 me ksdpIt65yvI-00950-00227928-00228231 that the employees would continue ksdpIt65yvI-00951-00228232-00228431 to run the hotel for the last four ksdpIt65yvI-00952-00228432-00228703 months as they always had in the past ksdpIt65yvI-00953-00228704-00228927 right up until the last order was taken ksdpIt65yvI-00954-00228928-00229127 for food and the last drink order was ksdpIt65yvI-00955-00229128-00229271 taken ksdpIt65yvI-00956-00229271-00229487 that matter settled it was determined ksdpIt65yvI-00957-00229488-00229687 that the hotel's closing would best be ksdpIt65yvI-00958-00229688-00229851 marked with a spectacular ksdpIt65yvI-00959-00229852-00230094 invitation-only closing banquet in the ksdpIt65yvI-00960-00230096-00230263 crystal ballroom ksdpIt65yvI-00961-00230264-00230655 the event was held november 28 1989 ksdpIt65yvI-00962-00230656-00230927 and attendance was limited by space to ksdpIt65yvI-00963-00230928-00231255 600 for a dinner and dance the event ksdpIt65yvI-00964-00231256-00231534 became a hot ticket prized by those who ksdpIt65yvI-00965-00231535-00231871 had one and coveted by those who didn't ksdpIt65yvI-00966-00231871-00232127 after dinner fishwick proposed a toast ksdpIt65yvI-00967-00232128-00232351 to the hotel's past ksdpIt65yvI-00968-00232352-00232551 to the hotel roanoke ksdpIt65yvI-00969-00232552-00232758 may she sleep well ksdpIt65yvI-00970-00232759-00232975 and may she awaken with all the charm of ksdpIt65yvI-00971-00232976-00233094 today ksdpIt65yvI-00972-00233096-00233255 to face a bright ksdpIt65yvI-00973-00233256-00233551 and prosperous 21st century ksdpIt65yvI-00974-00233552-00233863 to the hotel road ksdpIt65yvI-00975-00233864-00234110 and then in a moment that brought tears ksdpIt65yvI-00976-00234111-00234223 to most ksdpIt65yvI-00977-00234223-00234510 guests and staff hugged one another amid ksdpIt65yvI-00978-00234511-00234839 sobs and tears as the day darkened and ksdpIt65yvI-00979-00234840-00235142 the air cooled guests moved outside for ksdpIt65yvI-00980-00235144-00235455 the final ceremony of the evening doreen ksdpIt65yvI-00981-00235456-00235710 fishwick gave one last speech followed ksdpIt65yvI-00982-00235711-00235958 by moving remarks by the reverend noel ksdpIt65yvI-00983-00235959-00236071 taylor ksdpIt65yvI-00984-00236071-00236342 the hotel roanoke he said has become a ksdpIt65yvI-00985-00236344-00236519 symbol to us all ksdpIt65yvI-00986-00236519-00236791 our citizens cherish its beauty and hold ksdpIt65yvI-00987-00236792-00237071 dear the memories of good times but as ksdpIt65yvI-00988-00237071-00237246 we close its doors ksdpIt65yvI-00989-00237248-00237527 lower the flags and sing the final notes ksdpIt65yvI-00990-00237528-00237791 we also open the door to the future of ksdpIt65yvI-00991-00237792-00237991 our city ksdpIt65yvI-00992-00237992-00238223 but it was almost like a funeral people ksdpIt65yvI-00993-00238223-00238446 from roanoke came and stood in that ksdpIt65yvI-00994-00238448-00238598 circle ksdpIt65yvI-00995-00238600-00238806 not knowing if it would ever be opened ksdpIt65yvI-00996-00238807-00238942 again ksdpIt65yvI-00997-00238944-00239023 so ksdpIt65yvI-00998-00239023-00239167 at midnight ksdpIt65yvI-00999-00239167-00239375 the door was locked ksdpIt65yvI-01000-00239376-00239742 and the hill became dark and hushed ksdpIt65yvI-01001-00239744-00239844 and that was the end ksdpIt65yvI-01002-00239846-00240167 [Music] ksdpIt65yvI-01003-00240167-00240415 when the hotel roanoke doors reopened at ksdpIt65yvI-01004-00240416-00240606 nine on the monday morning following the ksdpIt65yvI-01005-00240607-00240871 closing banquet on december 4th waiting ksdpIt65yvI-01006-00240871-00241055 in the cold was a line of people ksdpIt65yvI-01007-00241056-00241255 stretching around the building there was ksdpIt65yvI-01008-00241256-00241463 to be an everything goes liquidation ksdpIt65yvI-01009-00241464-00241703 sale with tens of thousands of pieces ksdpIt65yvI-01010-00241704-00241934 there for the picking from coffee spoons ksdpIt65yvI-01011-00241935-00242231 to laundry equipment beds to bath towels ksdpIt65yvI-01012-00242232-00242455 televisions to teacups ksdpIt65yvI-01013-00242456-00242663 and their stacks and stacks of china and ksdpIt65yvI-01014-00242664-00242894 their piles of linens and piles of ksdpIt65yvI-01015-00242896-00243151 furniture and piles of items that came ksdpIt65yvI-01016-00243152-00243375 throughout the rooms everything to the ksdpIt65yvI-01017-00243376-00243598 actual uniforms ksdpIt65yvI-01018-00243600-00243782 of the individuals that were there and ksdpIt65yvI-01019-00243783-00244071 to know that less than a week before ksdpIt65yvI-01020-00244071-00244287 that i was here and somebody was wearing ksdpIt65yvI-01021-00244288-00244494 that outfit that was somebody's job that ksdpIt65yvI-01022-00244496-00244782 was somebody's livelihood it's gone ksdpIt65yvI-01023-00244783-00245151 and and yes it was a very very solemn ksdpIt65yvI-01024-00245152-00245542 event it was like people going to awake ksdpIt65yvI-01025-00245544-00245775 it was a terribly emotional situation ksdpIt65yvI-01026-00245776-00246023 because you just hated to see the ksdpIt65yvI-01027-00246023-00246327 grand old lady being torn apart by ksdpIt65yvI-01028-00246328-00246503 souvenir hunters ksdpIt65yvI-01029-00246504-00246734 it's like somewhat like vultures picking ksdpIt65yvI-01030-00246735-00246942 over the carcass here ksdpIt65yvI-01031-00246944-00247023 with ksdpIt65yvI-01032-00247023-00247303 things stacked up to be sold it just was ksdpIt65yvI-01033-00247304-00247558 tragic and it looked very much like a ksdpIt65yvI-01034-00247559-00247846 war zone there was china broken there ksdpIt65yvI-01035-00247848-00248055 were things knocked over ksdpIt65yvI-01036-00248056-00248279 it looked horrible ksdpIt65yvI-01037-00248280-00248479 in the crystal ballroom where sales were ksdpIt65yvI-01038-00248480-00248742 rather robust oddly enough there were ksdpIt65yvI-01039-00248744-00249046 only 48 cups and saucers to be found and ksdpIt65yvI-01040-00249048-00249406 no water goblets at all with the hr logo ksdpIt65yvI-01041-00249407-00249679 a shortage likely explained by guests ksdpIt65yvI-01042-00249680-00249855 who had been eager for a keepsake with ksdpIt65yvI-01043-00249856-00250158 which to remember the grand old lady ksdpIt65yvI-01044-00250159-00250398 by the beginning of october we had to ksdpIt65yvI-01045-00250400-00250734 order more china and silverware to carry ksdpIt65yvI-01046-00250735-00251005 on our business for the next two months ksdpIt65yvI-01047-00251006-00251230 [Laughter] ksdpIt65yvI-01048-00251231-00251463 i can see people getting a piece of ksdpIt65yvI-01049-00251464-00251710 silverware into their pocket but our ksdpIt65yvI-01050-00251711-00251927 silverware wasn't stamped with anything ksdpIt65yvI-01051-00251928-00252175 it was just regular silverware ksdpIt65yvI-01052-00252176-00252327 i don't know how they could possibly ksdpIt65yvI-01053-00252328-00252494 have gotten a plate ksdpIt65yvI-01054-00252496-00252671 or a sugar bowl ksdpIt65yvI-01055-00252671-00252839 or a cream pitcher ksdpIt65yvI-01056-00252840-00253103 unless they bought great big bags and we ksdpIt65yvI-01057-00253104-00253303 certainly didn't inspect them because we ksdpIt65yvI-01058-00253304-00253598 didn't expect this to happen but anyway ksdpIt65yvI-01059-00253600-00254039 some people have really nice souvenirs ksdpIt65yvI-01060-00254040-00254223 the remaining staff moved across the ksdpIt65yvI-01061-00254223-00254367 street to the norfolk and western ksdpIt65yvI-01062-00254367-00254558 building to wrap up remaining financial ksdpIt65yvI-01063-00254559-00254855 matters in the hotel the lights and heat ksdpIt65yvI-01064-00254856-00255167 were turned off the staff departed ksdpIt65yvI-01065-00255167-00255358 everything that had given life and ksdpIt65yvI-01066-00255359-00255623 warmth flavor and style to the hotel ksdpIt65yvI-01067-00255623-00255823 roanoke was gone ksdpIt65yvI-01068-00255823-00256071 the building was left alone ksdpIt65yvI-01069-00256071-00256334 silent and dark ksdpIt65yvI-01070-00256335-00256782 but was it dead ksdpIt65yvI-01071-00256783-00256991 by the early 90s there was an all-star ksdpIt65yvI-01072-00256992-00257271 cast of players too many to mention all ksdpIt65yvI-01073-00257271-00257463 of whom played an integral part in what ksdpIt65yvI-01074-00257464-00257582 would follow ksdpIt65yvI-01075-00257583-00257839 my recollection is that when the hotel ksdpIt65yvI-01076-00257840-00258087 closed it was still in doubt ksdpIt65yvI-01077-00258088-00258358 as to whether a viable plan could be put ksdpIt65yvI-01078-00258359-00258519 together ksdpIt65yvI-01079-00258519-00258767 to to reopen it ksdpIt65yvI-01080-00258767-00258967 there were certainly conversations and ksdpIt65yvI-01081-00258967-00259246 negotiations in progress but a plan had ksdpIt65yvI-01082-00259248-00259415 not been agreed to ksdpIt65yvI-01083-00259416-00259710 by the city and by virginia tech ksdpIt65yvI-01084-00259711-00259910 prior to the hotel closure and behind ksdpIt65yvI-01085-00259911-00260134 the scenes much discussion was taking ksdpIt65yvI-01086-00260135-00260342 place regarding need for a much larger ksdpIt65yvI-01087-00260344-00260558 state-of-the-art conference facility ksdpIt65yvI-01088-00260559-00260791 that is if the city wanted to compete ksdpIt65yvI-01089-00260792-00260998 for convention business first thing you ksdpIt65yvI-01090-00261000-00261198 knew was that roanoke had been losing ksdpIt65yvI-01091-00261200-00261367 convention business ksdpIt65yvI-01092-00261367-00261519 to the other parts of the state because ksdpIt65yvI-01093-00261519-00261734 we didn't have a large enough convention ksdpIt65yvI-01094-00261735-00261998 center and multiple rooms i think there ksdpIt65yvI-01095-00262000-00262223 was a lot of chatter ksdpIt65yvI-01096-00262224-00262423 on the city side of what we could do to ksdpIt65yvI-01097-00262424-00262543 improve that ksdpIt65yvI-01098-00262544-00262647 um ksdpIt65yvI-01099-00262648-00262791 and so ksdpIt65yvI-01100-00262792-00263030 that kind of conversation was happening ksdpIt65yvI-01101-00263031-00263287 in in one world and then ksdpIt65yvI-01102-00263288-00263599 the hotel roanoke being gifted to ksdpIt65yvI-01103-00263600-00263767 virginia tech ksdpIt65yvI-01104-00263768-00263958 happened ksdpIt65yvI-01105-00263959-00264110 at the same time ksdpIt65yvI-01106-00264111-00264319 meanwhile the city was losing the little ksdpIt65yvI-01107-00264320-00264495 bit of convention business it had ksdpIt65yvI-01108-00264496-00264719 already generated due to the hotel's ksdpIt65yvI-01109-00264720-00264847 closure ksdpIt65yvI-01110-00264848-00265030 local meeting planners and tourism ksdpIt65yvI-01111-00265031-00265303 personnel feared the worst ksdpIt65yvI-01112-00265304-00265575 when we were told that the hotel roanoke ksdpIt65yvI-01113-00265576-00265863 was going to go offline and we didn't ksdpIt65yvI-01114-00265864-00266095 know when it was going to come back we ksdpIt65yvI-01115-00266096-00266247 were concerned because this was the ksdpIt65yvI-01116-00266248-00266527 largest facility and to take it off of ksdpIt65yvI-01117-00266528-00266830 our inventory was going to to change the ksdpIt65yvI-01118-00266831-00267063 dynamics of what was available to ksdpIt65yvI-01119-00267064-00267206 meetings and conferences across the ksdpIt65yvI-01120-00267207-00267439 state and to continue to be viable ksdpIt65yvI-01121-00267440-00267710 and when you book with groups you book ksdpIt65yvI-01122-00267711-00267958 two to three years out sometimes and a ksdpIt65yvI-01123-00267959-00268279 lot of that was lost and the revenue was ksdpIt65yvI-01124-00268280-00268382 lost ksdpIt65yvI-01125-00268383-00268606 by the early 90s and many meetings ksdpIt65yvI-01126-00268607-00268879 discussions and studies later a plan ksdpIt65yvI-01127-00268880-00269039 finally was put in place ksdpIt65yvI-01128-00269040-00269199 and so was the partnership that would ksdpIt65yvI-01129-00269200-00269455 bring the project to fruition the city ksdpIt65yvI-01130-00269456-00269695 of roanoke and virginia tech would work ksdpIt65yvI-01131-00269696-00269927 together to reopen the hotel ksdpIt65yvI-01132-00269928-00270087 but there were some challenges to ksdpIt65yvI-01133-00270088-00270206 overcome ksdpIt65yvI-01134-00270207-00270495 we determined along with the city ksdpIt65yvI-01135-00270496-00270767 that simply keeping the hotel open was ksdpIt65yvI-01136-00270768-00271023 not an option if we were to ksdpIt65yvI-01137-00271024-00271375 maintain its viability that the hotel ksdpIt65yvI-01138-00271376-00271591 was an old building it needed ksdpIt65yvI-01139-00271592-00271958 substantial renovation and updating ksdpIt65yvI-01140-00271959-00272151 and conferencing facilities would have ksdpIt65yvI-01141-00272152-00272471 to be built alongside the hotel ksdpIt65yvI-01142-00272472-00272599 and ksdpIt65yvI-01143-00272600-00272799 analyzing that it was determined that ksdpIt65yvI-01144-00272800-00272982 this entire plan ksdpIt65yvI-01145-00272983-00273151 would cost somewhere in the neighborhood ksdpIt65yvI-01146-00273152-00273415 of 40 to 45 million dollars ksdpIt65yvI-01147-00273416-00273623 the financial backing needed to complete ksdpIt65yvI-01148-00273624-00273855 such a project was substantial and to ksdpIt65yvI-01149-00273856-00274095 make things worse a recession had a ksdpIt65yvI-01150-00274096-00274367 tight grip on the national economy the ksdpIt65yvI-01151-00274368-00274647 risk was high and no single bank would ksdpIt65yvI-01152-00274648-00274943 agree to finance the project ksdpIt65yvI-01153-00274944-00275182 ultimately several entities did step up ksdpIt65yvI-01154-00275183-00275406 and invest in the project including the ksdpIt65yvI-01155-00275407-00275663 virginia tech foundation doubletree ksdpIt65yvI-01156-00275664-00275903 corporation plus a number of financial ksdpIt65yvI-01157-00275904-00276206 institutions and state agencies ksdpIt65yvI-01158-00276207-00276551 yet by late fall of 1992 the financing ksdpIt65yvI-01159-00276552-00276782 effort was coming up short and the added ksdpIt65yvI-01160-00276783-00277047 pressure of a december 31st deadline was ksdpIt65yvI-01161-00277048-00277247 making things difficult ksdpIt65yvI-01162-00277248-00277455 time was running out ksdpIt65yvI-01163-00277456-00277710 well there was a timing constraint at ksdpIt65yvI-01164-00277711-00277855 that time you know virginia tech ksdpIt65yvI-01165-00277856-00277951 basically ksdpIt65yvI-01166-00277952-00278215 set a date and said look we've gotta ksdpIt65yvI-01167-00278216-00278455 we gotta to pull this off by this date ksdpIt65yvI-01168-00278456-00278687 or we've got a problem and we certainly ksdpIt65yvI-01169-00278688-00278839 didn't want to ksdpIt65yvI-01170-00278840-00279055 have to turn the hotel back over to the ksdpIt65yvI-01171-00279056-00279319 railroad to to an unknown future things ksdpIt65yvI-01172-00279320-00279510 were not looking good for the grand old ksdpIt65yvI-01173-00279511-00279830 lady every entity gave or loaned what it ksdpIt65yvI-01174-00279831-00280071 could every possibility had been ksdpIt65yvI-01175-00280072-00280230 exhausted ksdpIt65yvI-01176-00280231-00280430 it came down ksdpIt65yvI-01177-00280431-00280734 to a shortage of roughly six million ksdpIt65yvI-01178-00280735-00281023 dollars and at that time tom robertson ksdpIt65yvI-01179-00281024-00281206 who was the ksdpIt65yvI-01180-00281207-00281406 executive officer and the president over ksdpIt65yvI-01181-00281407-00281663 at the korean health care system stepped ksdpIt65yvI-01182-00281664-00281927 in and said okay let's see if the ksdpIt65yvI-01183-00281928-00282127 community really wants to see this ksdpIt65yvI-01184-00282128-00282406 project done and so they put together ksdpIt65yvI-01185-00282407-00282591 renew roanoke ksdpIt65yvI-01186-00282592-00282823 the renew roanoke campaign was a seven ksdpIt65yvI-01187-00282824-00283030 week fundraising attempt born out of ksdpIt65yvI-01188-00283031-00283167 desperation ksdpIt65yvI-01189-00283168-00283382 in an unprecedented last-ditch effort ksdpIt65yvI-01190-00283383-00283591 over the christmas holiday the entire ksdpIt65yvI-01191-00283592-00283806 community took up the challenge and the ksdpIt65yvI-01192-00283807-00284023 goal was reached we actually had ksdpIt65yvI-01193-00284024-00284167 telephones ksdpIt65yvI-01194-00284168-00284358 and ksdpIt65yvI-01195-00284359-00284558 tremendous publicity ksdpIt65yvI-01196-00284559-00284751 reaching out to the people of western ksdpIt65yvI-01197-00284752-00285023 virginia all of virginia and saying we ksdpIt65yvI-01198-00285024-00285303 want to save the hotel roanoke ksdpIt65yvI-01199-00285304-00285575 we put all the money we can find into ksdpIt65yvI-01200-00285576-00285743 this project ksdpIt65yvI-01201-00285744-00285847 but we're ksdpIt65yvI-01202-00285848-00286151 we need a little bit of more help ksdpIt65yvI-01203-00286152-00286351 at a rally at the roanoke civic center ksdpIt65yvI-01204-00286352-00286703 on january 11 1993 tom robertson ksdpIt65yvI-01205-00286704-00286934 announced that renew roanoke had raised ksdpIt65yvI-01206-00286935-00287110 5 million ksdpIt65yvI-01207-00287111-00287303 in addition norfolk southern donated ksdpIt65yvI-01208-00287304-00287455 another two million ksdpIt65yvI-01209-00287456-00287951 the hotel roanoke would survive ksdpIt65yvI-01210-00287952-00288158 the hotel rowan oaken conference center ksdpIt65yvI-01211-00288159-00288503 formerly reopened in april of 1995. ksdpIt65yvI-01212-00288504-00288734 a ribbon cutting and dedication ceremony ksdpIt65yvI-01213-00288735-00288927 marked the successful culmination of ksdpIt65yvI-01214-00288928-00289239 efforts by civic education business and ksdpIt65yvI-01215-00289240-00289406 philanthropic leaders throughout the ksdpIt65yvI-01216-00289407-00289679 roanoke and new river valleys ksdpIt65yvI-01217-00289680-00289855 so i think it's one of the great success ksdpIt65yvI-01218-00289856-00290143 stories and what it shows in my opinion ksdpIt65yvI-01219-00290144-00290215 is ksdpIt65yvI-01220-00290216-00290319 cities ksdpIt65yvI-01221-00290320-00290606 and some individual entities can't ksdpIt65yvI-01222-00290607-00290839 always do things by themselves but this ksdpIt65yvI-01223-00290840-00291167 is a prime example of a partnership that ksdpIt65yvI-01224-00291168-00291382 allowed something really significant to ksdpIt65yvI-01225-00291383-00291551 happen to roanoke that would have never ksdpIt65yvI-01226-00291552-00291703 happened otherwise ksdpIt65yvI-01227-00291704-00291919 gary walton was hired to oversee the ksdpIt65yvI-01228-00291920-00292206 reopening and manage a new and more ksdpIt65yvI-01229-00292207-00292527 modern hotel roanoke including a 63 ksdpIt65yvI-01230-00292528-00292758 thousand square foot conference center ksdpIt65yvI-01231-00292759-00293030 from behind the scenes it was very much ksdpIt65yvI-01232-00293031-00293254 apparent that we had you know two ksdpIt65yvI-01233-00293255-00293454 basically running two organizations two ksdpIt65yvI-01234-00293455-00293663 businesses but we really wanted the ksdpIt65yvI-01235-00293664-00293782 experience for our guests to be a ksdpIt65yvI-01236-00293783-00293975 seamless one so they didn't know that it ksdpIt65yvI-01237-00293976-00294303 was a pretty significant educational ksdpIt65yvI-01238-00294304-00294430 process ksdpIt65yvI-01239-00294431-00294606 to explain to people how we would ksdpIt65yvI-01240-00294607-00294710 operate ksdpIt65yvI-01241-00294711-00294951 and how we would target our business ksdpIt65yvI-01242-00294952-00295151 the new hotel roanoke would now have a ksdpIt65yvI-01243-00295152-00295343 number of resources that the original ksdpIt65yvI-01244-00295344-00295527 hotel did not ksdpIt65yvI-01245-00295528-00295710 one one of the most important decisions ksdpIt65yvI-01246-00295711-00295887 that was made at the time of reopening ksdpIt65yvI-01247-00295888-00296071 was to affiliate the hotel with the ksdpIt65yvI-01248-00296072-00296343 national hotel chain to ensure success ksdpIt65yvI-01249-00296344-00296543 and help with the national marketing ksdpIt65yvI-01250-00296544-00296727 reservation systems frequent guest ksdpIt65yvI-01251-00296728-00296999 programs and currently we're with hilton ksdpIt65yvI-01252-00297000-00297175 we're a curio by hilton and that's been ksdpIt65yvI-01253-00297176-00297375 fantastic for us it's really allowed us ksdpIt65yvI-01254-00297376-00297615 to lift quality in with the investments ksdpIt65yvI-01255-00297616-00297847 it's it's really paying dividends the ksdpIt65yvI-01256-00297848-00298095 renovation and construction project was ksdpIt65yvI-01257-00298096-00298358 and is to this day a true public-private ksdpIt65yvI-01258-00298359-00298591 partnership ownership of the property ksdpIt65yvI-01259-00298592-00298847 now falls to two separate entities both ksdpIt65yvI-01260-00298848-00299087 equally important but each with its own ksdpIt65yvI-01261-00299088-00299382 revenue budget and capital needs ksdpIt65yvI-01262-00299383-00299591 the conference center of roanoke is ksdpIt65yvI-01263-00299592-00299734 owned by the hotel roanoke conference ksdpIt65yvI-01264-00299735-00299871 center commission ksdpIt65yvI-01265-00299872-00300095 okay the hotel roanoke is owned by ksdpIt65yvI-01266-00300096-00300358 virginia tech foundations although you ksdpIt65yvI-01267-00300359-00300575 hopefully would never see a line of ksdpIt65yvI-01268-00300576-00300775 demarcation here you would see it as a ksdpIt65yvI-01269-00300776-00300999 constant flow of one property there is ksdpIt65yvI-01270-00301000-00301119 in essence ksdpIt65yvI-01271-00301120-00301334 a physical conference center and a ksdpIt65yvI-01272-00301335-00301606 physical hotel and we marry up where we ksdpIt65yvI-01273-00301607-00301934 marry up but the idea was to create you ksdpIt65yvI-01274-00301935-00302175 know obviously one flowing experience ksdpIt65yvI-01275-00302176-00302430 for guests and groups ksdpIt65yvI-01276-00302431-00302630 additional structure and infrastructure ksdpIt65yvI-01277-00302631-00302806 projects were undertaken at the time of ksdpIt65yvI-01278-00302807-00303047 construction the realignment of wells ksdpIt65yvI-01279-00303048-00303239 avenue serves as a major gateway to ksdpIt65yvI-01280-00303240-00303471 roanoke from the interstate and local ksdpIt65yvI-01281-00303472-00303567 traffic ksdpIt65yvI-01282-00303568-00303782 reconstruction of 2nd street and the 2nd ksdpIt65yvI-01283-00303783-00303991 street bridge allows for better traffic ksdpIt65yvI-01284-00303992-00304206 circulation to downtown and the ksdpIt65yvI-01285-00304207-00304351 conference center ksdpIt65yvI-01286-00304352-00304558 the market square walkway was another ksdpIt65yvI-01287-00304559-00304791 necessary addition and it too has ksdpIt65yvI-01288-00304792-00304975 benefited downtown businesses and ksdpIt65yvI-01289-00304976-00305110 attractions ksdpIt65yvI-01290-00305111-00305343 yeah that's a huge deal today you can ksdpIt65yvI-01291-00305344-00305439 come out of the hotel and you can ksdpIt65yvI-01292-00305440-00305591 actually walk over the railroad tracks ksdpIt65yvI-01293-00305592-00305743 instead of having to cross the railroad ksdpIt65yvI-01294-00305744-00305830 tracks ksdpIt65yvI-01295-00305831-00305991 and it's just so easy to get between the ksdpIt65yvI-01296-00305992-00306167 hotel and downtown and you're ksdpIt65yvI-01297-00306168-00306358 immediately in proximity to the art ksdpIt65yvI-01298-00306359-00306543 museum all the restaurants and the ksdpIt65yvI-01299-00306544-00306743 galleries and that's especially ksdpIt65yvI-01300-00306744-00306951 important when conferences are here so ksdpIt65yvI-01301-00306952-00307167 many people want to experience the ksdpIt65yvI-01302-00307168-00307399 neighborhood they just don't want to ksdpIt65yvI-01303-00307400-00307591 come into the hotel and sit and have a ksdpIt65yvI-01304-00307592-00307830 meeting but they want to experience what ksdpIt65yvI-01305-00307831-00308047 the neighborhood has to offer ksdpIt65yvI-01306-00308048-00308254 the city that once struggled to attain ksdpIt65yvI-01307-00308255-00308439 and retain meeting and convention ksdpIt65yvI-01308-00308440-00308703 business due to a lack of space is now ksdpIt65yvI-01309-00308704-00308863 able to position itself as a ksdpIt65yvI-01310-00308864-00309127 state-of-the-art convention destination ksdpIt65yvI-01311-00309128-00309303 the hotel roanoke conference center ksdpIt65yvI-01312-00309304-00309543 plays an essential role when it comes to ksdpIt65yvI-01313-00309544-00309806 bringing in the new economy whether it ksdpIt65yvI-01314-00309807-00310054 be the medical industry ksdpIt65yvI-01315-00310055-00310223 whether it be high-tech ksdpIt65yvI-01316-00310224-00310463 conference and meetings business has ksdpIt65yvI-01317-00310464-00310734 just really gone through the roof we are ksdpIt65yvI-01318-00310735-00310991 enjoying eight consecutive record years ksdpIt65yvI-01319-00310992-00311223 of growth now and it acts as a great ksdpIt65yvI-01320-00311224-00311487 attractor for bringing in the meetings ksdpIt65yvI-01321-00311488-00311695 that this community needs to move the ksdpIt65yvI-01322-00311696-00311887 economy forward ksdpIt65yvI-01323-00311888-00312071 another important partnership announced ksdpIt65yvI-01324-00312072-00312343 in 2007 between virginia tech and ksdpIt65yvI-01325-00312344-00312639 carillion clinic has had a direct impact ksdpIt65yvI-01326-00312640-00312854 on the hotel and conference center the ksdpIt65yvI-01327-00312855-00313039 virginia tech carillon school of ksdpIt65yvI-01328-00313040-00313295 medicine and research institute relies ksdpIt65yvI-01329-00313296-00313527 heavily on the downtown property ksdpIt65yvI-01330-00313528-00313710 so the relationship between hotel ksdpIt65yvI-01331-00313711-00313967 roanoke and carilion clinic ksdpIt65yvI-01332-00313968-00314230 is really rather intimate it's such an ksdpIt65yvI-01333-00314231-00314558 important asset to have that partnership ksdpIt65yvI-01334-00314559-00314767 it's one we rely on because we want a ksdpIt65yvI-01335-00314768-00315079 wonderful place when we're recruiting ksdpIt65yvI-01336-00315080-00315358 new talent and we use this facility ksdpIt65yvI-01337-00315359-00315639 often we also need the conference center ksdpIt65yvI-01338-00315640-00315791 facility ksdpIt65yvI-01339-00315792-00315943 for a lot of the conferences a lot of ksdpIt65yvI-01340-00315944-00316303 the work that we do to educate our staff ksdpIt65yvI-01341-00316304-00316623 our managers our board and so it's ksdpIt65yvI-01342-00316624-00316919 really rather important to us ksdpIt65yvI-01343-00316920-00317095 virginia tech is a very engaged ksdpIt65yvI-01344-00317096-00317271 university where as a land-grant ksdpIt65yvI-01345-00317272-00317454 university we were created to be engaged ksdpIt65yvI-01346-00317455-00317654 with with the people that we that we ksdpIt65yvI-01347-00317655-00317799 serve which is really the whole ksdpIt65yvI-01348-00317800-00318006 commonwealth so having a conference ksdpIt65yvI-01349-00318007-00318287 center attached to the hotel has been a ksdpIt65yvI-01350-00318288-00318543 huge boon to our engagement for this ksdpIt65yvI-01351-00318544-00318871 community not only for events and and ksdpIt65yvI-01352-00318872-00319103 celebrations but also for educational ksdpIt65yvI-01353-00319104-00319351 opportunities for holding workshops ksdpIt65yvI-01354-00319352-00319647 symposia conferences so we view it as ksdpIt65yvI-01355-00319648-00319991 not only an asset for as a hotel and a ksdpIt65yvI-01356-00319992-00320182 conference center but as a way of ksdpIt65yvI-01357-00320183-00320415 extending the reach of virginia tech ksdpIt65yvI-01358-00320416-00320830 into this community ksdpIt65yvI-01359-00320831-00321151 the hotel roanoke that opened in 1995 ksdpIt65yvI-01360-00321152-00321334 clearly is a very different structure ksdpIt65yvI-01361-00321335-00321510 than the hotel roanoke that opened in ksdpIt65yvI-01362-00321511-00321830 1882 the tudor characteristics she was ksdpIt65yvI-01363-00321831-00322047 born with still apparent in the current ksdpIt65yvI-01364-00322048-00322351 version of the old english inn ksdpIt65yvI-01365-00322352-00322558 another long-standing tradition that is ksdpIt65yvI-01366-00322559-00322806 still evident to this day is that of ksdpIt65yvI-01367-00322807-00323110 excellent service and hospitality thanks ksdpIt65yvI-01368-00323111-00323351 to the dedicated workers who have served ksdpIt65yvI-01369-00323352-00323615 the grand old lady all these years ksdpIt65yvI-01370-00323616-00324063 service is invaluable here and from ksdpIt65yvI-01371-00324064-00324247 a position of ksdpIt65yvI-01372-00324248-00324343 mayor ksdpIt65yvI-01373-00324344-00324575 it's important to us because they're ksdpIt65yvI-01374-00324576-00324775 oftentimes the first people that are ksdpIt65yvI-01375-00324776-00324895 seen ksdpIt65yvI-01376-00324896-00325119 when people come into our city pulling ksdpIt65yvI-01377-00325120-00325351 up in the ballet parking and the way ksdpIt65yvI-01378-00325352-00325591 you're treated coming in doors are open ksdpIt65yvI-01379-00325592-00325975 for you they welcome you to come in so ksdpIt65yvI-01380-00325976-00326182 the service is what it's all about and ksdpIt65yvI-01381-00326183-00326358 it's friendly service ksdpIt65yvI-01382-00326359-00326575 like deacon brown and william campbell ksdpIt65yvI-01383-00326576-00326847 in the 1940s and countless others who ksdpIt65yvI-01384-00326848-00327030 provided service throughout the last ksdpIt65yvI-01385-00327031-00327327 century and a half today's hotel roanoke ksdpIt65yvI-01386-00327328-00327575 employees remain committed to making a ksdpIt65yvI-01387-00327576-00327854 difference for the guests they serve ksdpIt65yvI-01388-00327855-00328071 well i always say if i can make somebody ksdpIt65yvI-01389-00328072-00328263 else smile i'm gonna smile along with ksdpIt65yvI-01390-00328264-00328471 them so i try to give people my best ksdpIt65yvI-01391-00328472-00328671 each and every day and customer service ksdpIt65yvI-01392-00328672-00328863 is very important especially if you want ksdpIt65yvI-01393-00328864-00329087 the people to come back and i prefer to ksdpIt65yvI-01394-00329088-00329263 make them feel at home when they're away ksdpIt65yvI-01395-00329264-00329415 from home ksdpIt65yvI-01396-00329416-00329582 well i've been in the service industry ksdpIt65yvI-01397-00329583-00329903 for when i was 13 years old i started ksdpIt65yvI-01398-00329904-00330063 and i've always seen the hotel standing ksdpIt65yvI-01399-00330064-00330206 on the hill and i'm when i worked at the ksdpIt65yvI-01400-00330207-00330415 chandelier club and i seen the hotel ksdpIt65yvI-01401-00330416-00330534 runner and i said you know one day i'm ksdpIt65yvI-01402-00330535-00330679 going to work there ksdpIt65yvI-01403-00330680-00330806 and then when i walked in the first day ksdpIt65yvI-01404-00330807-00331015 i actually got the job i said this is ksdpIt65yvI-01405-00331016-00331175 where i'm going to stay ksdpIt65yvI-01406-00331176-00331423 and the service here is outstanding ksdpIt65yvI-01407-00331424-00331654 people come back time and time again ksdpIt65yvI-01408-00331655-00331815 and i always make sure they leave with a ksdpIt65yvI-01409-00331816-00331934 smile ksdpIt65yvI-01410-00331935-00332175 for many at the hotel both in the past ksdpIt65yvI-01411-00332176-00332406 and the present employment of the grand ksdpIt65yvI-01412-00332407-00332671 old lady has been a family affair ksdpIt65yvI-01413-00332672-00332863 it's been a wonderful ksdpIt65yvI-01414-00332864-00333071 place of employment throughout the years ksdpIt65yvI-01415-00333072-00333230 here at the hotel ksdpIt65yvI-01416-00333231-00333527 we've got currently pairs of employees ksdpIt65yvI-01417-00333528-00333799 who are related uh either moms and ksdpIt65yvI-01418-00333800-00334087 daughters fathers and sons cousins and ksdpIt65yvI-01419-00334088-00334334 aunts and the commitment that they show ksdpIt65yvI-01420-00334335-00334487 and what it means to their family ksdpIt65yvI-01421-00334488-00334615 through the years really is pretty ksdpIt65yvI-01422-00334616-00334758 incredible to see ksdpIt65yvI-01423-00334759-00334991 well my grandmother worked here first ksdpIt65yvI-01424-00334992-00335158 and then i think my mother wanted to ksdpIt65yvI-01425-00335159-00335375 find out what it was like and then she ksdpIt65yvI-01426-00335376-00335575 followed in my grandmother's shoes and ksdpIt65yvI-01427-00335576-00335663 my ksdpIt65yvI-01428-00335664-00335878 aunts they followed in my mother's shoes ksdpIt65yvI-01429-00335879-00336110 and then after my mother passed i was ksdpIt65yvI-01430-00336111-00336287 wondering what was the big deal so i ksdpIt65yvI-01431-00336288-00336519 followed it in her shoes so i came i ksdpIt65yvI-01432-00336520-00336719 really really enjoyed it it was just a ksdpIt65yvI-01433-00336720-00336847 great place ksdpIt65yvI-01434-00336848-00337151 well i started off with my father and my ksdpIt65yvI-01435-00337152-00337254 mother's ksdpIt65yvI-01436-00337255-00337367 father ksdpIt65yvI-01437-00337368-00337463 and ksdpIt65yvI-01438-00337464-00337727 my dad put in 42 years ksdpIt65yvI-01439-00337728-00337887 my mom put in ksdpIt65yvI-01440-00337888-00338143 i think 20 years off and on ksdpIt65yvI-01441-00338144-00338334 her aunt worked here and i think she did ksdpIt65yvI-01442-00338335-00338551 maybe a year or two ksdpIt65yvI-01443-00338552-00338743 what would frederick kimball think of ksdpIt65yvI-01444-00338744-00339047 his railroad hotel as it stands today ksdpIt65yvI-01445-00339048-00339254 still overlooking the city he helped ksdpIt65yvI-01446-00339255-00339551 establish his railroad may largely have ksdpIt65yvI-01447-00339552-00339927 left the city but its influence remains ksdpIt65yvI-01448-00339928-00340134 from his vision and the vision of ksdpIt65yvI-01449-00340135-00340351 roanoke and virginia tech leaders who ksdpIt65yvI-01450-00340352-00340510 were in the right place at the right ksdpIt65yvI-01451-00340511-00340854 time a partnership has evolved and grown ksdpIt65yvI-01452-00340855-00341047 to strengthen the communities around ksdpIt65yvI-01453-00341048-00341151 them ksdpIt65yvI-01454-00341152-00341406 well as being virginia's senior ksdpIt65yvI-01455-00341407-00341703 land-grant university okay it is core to ksdpIt65yvI-01456-00341704-00342006 our values okay into our core mission ksdpIt65yvI-01457-00342007-00342263 that we indeed find ways in which we can ksdpIt65yvI-01458-00342264-00342375 deliver ksdpIt65yvI-01459-00342376-00342558 okay the discoveries that come out of ksdpIt65yvI-01460-00342559-00342830 our classrooms and laboratories for the ksdpIt65yvI-01461-00342831-00343015 economic benefit of the people of the ksdpIt65yvI-01462-00343016-00343175 commonwealth of virginia really the ksdpIt65yvI-01463-00343176-00343343 other people of the country in the world ksdpIt65yvI-01464-00343344-00343678 and so this this facility has provided ksdpIt65yvI-01465-00343679-00344039 prime venue for us to be able to deliver ksdpIt65yvI-01466-00344040-00344267 these types of cutting-edge ksdpIt65yvI-01467-00344268-00344534 technology-based educational programs ksdpIt65yvI-01468-00344535-00344839 that indeed benefit the businesses and ksdpIt65yvI-01469-00344840-00345119 communities and the private sector the ksdpIt65yvI-01470-00345120-00345399 government and so we are very proud ksdpIt65yvI-01471-00345400-00345734 again of what has taken place at this ksdpIt65yvI-01472-00345735-00345887 wonderful venue ksdpIt65yvI-01473-00345888-00346071 this grand old lady has been through ksdpIt65yvI-01474-00346072-00346271 much since she first opened her doors ksdpIt65yvI-01475-00346272-00346503 all those years ago but never has she ksdpIt65yvI-01476-00346504-00346751 looked as resilient and elegant as she ksdpIt65yvI-01477-00346752-00346927 does today ksdpIt65yvI-01478-00346928-00347158 and at her side her sturdy companion the ksdpIt65yvI-01479-00347159-00347399 conference center leads those who walk ksdpIt65yvI-01480-00347400-00347654 through its doors to their bright and ksdpIt65yvI-01481-00347655-00347993 successful future ksdpIt65yvI-01482-00347994-00349278 [Music] ksdpIt65yvI-01483-00349279-00349689 do ksdpIt65yvI-01484-00349690-00352063 [Music] ksdpIt65yvI-01485-00352064-00352271 major funding for hotel roanoke the ksdpIt65yvI-01486-00352272-00352487 grand old lady on the hill is provided ksdpIt65yvI-01487-00352488-00352767 by the virginia tech foundation a proud ksdpIt65yvI-01488-00352768-00353015 supporter of blue ridge pbs and its ksdpIt65yvI-01489-00353016-00353271 mission to be the region's storyteller ksdpIt65yvI-01490-00353272-00353510 additional support is provided by the ksdpIt65yvI-01491-00353511-00353751 city of roanoke and visit virginia's 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apps represent the rooms inside kv3kEZ_mJq4-00044-00011168-00011295 our house kv3kEZ_mJq4-00045-00011296-00011527 our digital house can have many rooms kv3kEZ_mJq4-00046-00011528-00011759 inside it where we can do a lot of fun kv3kEZ_mJq4-00047-00011760-00012014 things like reading playing listening to kv3kEZ_mJq4-00048-00012015-00012310 music and talking to our friends kv3kEZ_mJq4-00049-00012311-00012510 but what do your parents do when they're kv3kEZ_mJq4-00050-00012511-00012663 not at home kv3kEZ_mJq4-00051-00012664-00012838 they'll probably close the windows in kv3kEZ_mJq4-00052-00012839-00013030 the rooms and lock the door of the house kv3kEZ_mJq4-00053-00013031-00013263 with a key so that your home can be kv3kEZ_mJq4-00054-00013263-00013575 protected from dangers and threats kv3kEZ_mJq4-00055-00013576-00013855 we have to remember to do the same thing kv3kEZ_mJq4-00056-00013856-00014079 with our devices kv3kEZ_mJq4-00057-00014080-00014399 and what is the key to our smartphone kv3kEZ_mJq4-00058-00014400-00014566 a password kv3kEZ_mJq4-00059-00014568-00014799 a password is the key to our digital kv3kEZ_mJq4-00060-00014800-00014935 house kv3kEZ_mJq4-00061-00014936-00015175 a password is meant to protect me my kv3kEZ_mJq4-00062-00015176-00015503 home address my age and my school kv3kEZ_mJq4-00063-00015504-00015735 it was also meant to protect my family kv3kEZ_mJq4-00064-00015736-00015991 and their personal informations or to kv3kEZ_mJq4-00065-00015991-00016230 protect their money kv3kEZ_mJq4-00066-00016231-00016511 but a password is also meant to protect kv3kEZ_mJq4-00067-00016512-00016703 all the activities we get up to in our kv3kEZ_mJq4-00068-00016704-00016830 digital house kv3kEZ_mJq4-00069-00016831-00017079 like the games we play and the photos kv3kEZ_mJq4-00070-00017080-00017311 and videos we take kv3kEZ_mJq4-00071-00017312-00017543 in our digital house we have two kinds kv3kEZ_mJq4-00072-00017544-00017919 of keys that we can use a password and a kv3kEZ_mJq4-00073-00017920-00018311 pass code a passcode is the key to your kv3kEZ_mJq4-00074-00018312-00018503 smartphone or tablet kv3kEZ_mJq4-00075-00018504-00018775 without this code any person can enter kv3kEZ_mJq4-00076-00018776-00019063 your smartphone or tablet without your kv3kEZ_mJq4-00077-00019064-00019255 permission and can access all your kv3kEZ_mJq4-00078-00019256-00019535 information including those inside your kv3kEZ_mJq4-00079-00019536-00020007 rooms and apps in fact the password of kv3kEZ_mJq4-00080-00020008-00020279 the apps are saved in your smartphone or kv3kEZ_mJq4-00081-00020280-00020543 tablet and you can access them without kv3kEZ_mJq4-00082-00020544-00020886 having to use their passwords every time kv3kEZ_mJq4-00083-00020887-00021191 a password is instead the key to the kv3kEZ_mJq4-00084-00021192-00021550 doors of your rooms so how can we use kv3kEZ_mJq4-00085-00021551-00021735 our digital key to protect our kv3kEZ_mJq4-00086-00021736-00021967 smartphones or tablet kv3kEZ_mJq4-00087-00021968-00022303 remember to set a combination or a code kv3kEZ_mJq4-00088-00022304-00022558 of at least six digits to block your kv3kEZ_mJq4-00089-00022559-00022863 smartphone or tablet and try to avoid kv3kEZ_mJq4-00090-00022864-00023039 using information about your date of kv3kEZ_mJq4-00091-00023040-00023319 birth or any number that can be easily kv3kEZ_mJq4-00092-00023320-00023503 associated with you kv3kEZ_mJq4-00093-00023504-00023839 this information would be easy to guess kv3kEZ_mJq4-00094-00023840-00024071 leaving your smartphone or tablet around kv3kEZ_mJq4-00095-00024072-00024319 and without a code is like leaving the kv3kEZ_mJq4-00096-00024320-00024558 door to your house open kv3kEZ_mJq4-00097-00024559-00024839 always lock your smartphone or tablet kv3kEZ_mJq4-00098-00024840-00025039 when you are not using it and never kv3kEZ_mJq4-00099-00025040-00025278 leave it around unattended kv3kEZ_mJq4-00100-00025279-00025614 instead a password is the key to the kv3kEZ_mJq4-00101-00025616-00025887 doors of your rooms just like inside a kv3kEZ_mJq4-00102-00025888-00026167 real house the key to every door is kv3kEZ_mJq4-00103-00026168-00026479 always unique in this case we have to kv3kEZ_mJq4-00104-00026480-00026670 create passwords that are easy to kv3kEZ_mJq4-00105-00026672-00026974 remember but difficult to guess kv3kEZ_mJq4-00106-00026975-00027174 we should try and make them long and kv3kEZ_mJq4-00107-00027175-00027487 complicated using elements that only us kv3kEZ_mJq4-00108-00027488-00027846 and people close to us would know kv3kEZ_mJq4-00109-00027847-00028079 we should also try to enrich them with kv3kEZ_mJq4-00110-00028080-00028255 different punctuation kv3kEZ_mJq4-00111-00028256-00028502 and numbers and by alternating between kv3kEZ_mJq4-00112-00028504-00028783 capital and lowercase letters kv3kEZ_mJq4-00113-00028783-00028999 remember that it has to be at least kv3kEZ_mJq4-00114-00029000-00029262 eight characters long kv3kEZ_mJq4-00115-00029263-00029535 often when we surf online we can come kv3kEZ_mJq4-00116-00029536-00029767 across adverts or notifications that kv3kEZ_mJq4-00117-00029768-00029990 tell us we have won prizes kv3kEZ_mJq4-00118-00029991-00030287 it's very important to never click on kv3kEZ_mJq4-00119-00030288-00030614 them as they are usually scams kv3kEZ_mJq4-00120-00030616-00030831 all clear now kv3kEZ_mJq4-00121-00030832-00031079 see you again soon for our next episode kv3kEZ_mJq4-00122-00031080-00031383 about privacy and personal information kv3kEZ_mJq4-00123-00031383-00031743 until then stay safe stay tuned and kv3kEZ_mJq4-00124-00031744-00031895 engage kv3kEZ_mJq4-00125-00031895-00032195 bye kv3kEZ_mJq4-00126-00032197-00032535 [Music] kv3kEZ_mJq4-00127-00032536-00032744 you kwqiRou9k_Q-00000-00000056-00000976 [Music] kwqiRou9k_Q-00001-00000977-00001751 [Music] kwqiRou9k_Q-00002-00001752-00001910 hello this is justin kates i'm the kwqiRou9k_Q-00003-00001911-00002071 director of emergency management for the kwqiRou9k_Q-00004-00002072-00002215 city of nashua new hampshire kwqiRou9k_Q-00005-00002216-00002487 and a board member at the national kwqiRou9k_Q-00006-00002488-00002671 alliance for public safety gis kwqiRou9k_Q-00007-00002672-00003007 snapseed foundation and i want to kwqiRou9k_Q-00008-00003008-00003247 welcome you to our session on demand kwqiRou9k_Q-00009-00003247-00003438 session on virtualizing kwqiRou9k_Q-00010-00003439-00003767 emergency operations centers uh with me kwqiRou9k_Q-00011-00003768-00004103 for this specific vignette is how grieb kwqiRou9k_Q-00012-00004104-00004311 who's currently the emergency management kwqiRou9k_Q-00013-00004312-00004591 director for jefferson county colorado kwqiRou9k_Q-00014-00004592-00004775 and he's going to talk to us a little kwqiRou9k_Q-00015-00004776-00004919 bit about kwqiRou9k_Q-00016-00004920-00005263 a case study from his previous work in kwqiRou9k_Q-00017-00005264-00005527 alachua county florida where he was the kwqiRou9k_Q-00018-00005528-00005695 director of emergency management there kwqiRou9k_Q-00019-00005696-00005743 and kwqiRou9k_Q-00020-00005744-00005967 led a really innovative approach to kwqiRou9k_Q-00021-00005968-00006247 creating a virtual eoc platform kwqiRou9k_Q-00022-00006248-00006575 using a tool called monday.com so thanks kwqiRou9k_Q-00023-00006576-00006646 a lot for kwqiRou9k_Q-00024-00006647-00006878 being with us hal my pleasure thanks for kwqiRou9k_Q-00025-00006879-00007031 inviting me kwqiRou9k_Q-00026-00007031-00007375 so um you were involved in the covet 19 kwqiRou9k_Q-00027-00007376-00007455 response kwqiRou9k_Q-00028-00007456-00007719 uh and kind of tell me a little bit kwqiRou9k_Q-00029-00007720-00007774 about kwqiRou9k_Q-00030-00007775-00008070 uh some of the concerns that you had as kwqiRou9k_Q-00031-00008072-00008239 you were looking to scale up your kwqiRou9k_Q-00032-00008240-00008478 emergency operations uh probably in the kwqiRou9k_Q-00033-00008479-00008614 march time frame of kwqiRou9k_Q-00034-00008615-00008831 last year what was what were your kwqiRou9k_Q-00035-00008832-00008991 thoughts in in thinking about how to kwqiRou9k_Q-00036-00008992-00009167 activate an emergency operations center kwqiRou9k_Q-00037-00009168-00009367 in this type of an environment kwqiRou9k_Q-00038-00009368-00009742 sure so so to your point it's something kwqiRou9k_Q-00039-00009743-00009951 in emergency management being paid to be kwqiRou9k_Q-00040-00009952-00010046 paranoid kwqiRou9k_Q-00041-00010047-00010238 i was actually kind of watching the tail kwqiRou9k_Q-00042-00010239-00010431 end of january into february what was kwqiRou9k_Q-00043-00010432-00010542 going on kwqiRou9k_Q-00044-00010543-00011023 uh in in you know the chinese province kwqiRou9k_Q-00045-00011024-00011174 and watching that pandemic kind of kwqiRou9k_Q-00046-00011175-00011510 unfold and and started kind of kwqiRou9k_Q-00047-00011511-00011735 brainstorming what ifs as we all kind of kwqiRou9k_Q-00048-00011736-00011887 do professionally kwqiRou9k_Q-00049-00011888-00012174 so uh being a newer director at the time kwqiRou9k_Q-00050-00012175-00012214 in kwqiRou9k_Q-00051-00012215-00012519 in the county i had inherited kwqiRou9k_Q-00052-00012520-00012902 um uh a web-based kwqiRou9k_Q-00053-00012903-00013230 emergency operations platform a pretty kwqiRou9k_Q-00054-00013231-00013358 well-known platform kwqiRou9k_Q-00055-00013359-00013727 uh that is used today uh i inherited kwqiRou9k_Q-00056-00013728-00013943 that and started evaluating kwqiRou9k_Q-00057-00013944-00014279 its capabilities in a truly virtual kwqiRou9k_Q-00058-00014280-00014391 environment kwqiRou9k_Q-00059-00014391-00014599 and um and i started doing that in like kwqiRou9k_Q-00060-00014600-00014807 i said about mid-february kwqiRou9k_Q-00061-00014808-00015103 so uh so evaluate that platform realized kwqiRou9k_Q-00062-00015104-00015358 i didn't i didn't trust its capabilities kwqiRou9k_Q-00063-00015359-00015575 for what i saw going on in the kwqiRou9k_Q-00064-00015576-00015807 the enhancement and the organizational kwqiRou9k_Q-00065-00015808-00015966 structure i was putting forward we were kwqiRou9k_Q-00066-00015968-00016127 also in the middle of writing a brand kwqiRou9k_Q-00067-00016128-00016191 new kwqiRou9k_Q-00068-00016191-00016471 from scratch cemp and we were we were kwqiRou9k_Q-00069-00016472-00016575 creating a kwqiRou9k_Q-00070-00016576-00016783 an incident support model emergency kwqiRou9k_Q-00071-00016784-00016943 support function hybrid kwqiRou9k_Q-00072-00016944-00017191 and some of those concepts i didn't feel kwqiRou9k_Q-00073-00017192-00017383 bolted in directly into the software kwqiRou9k_Q-00074-00017384-00017494 platform i had kwqiRou9k_Q-00075-00017495-00017775 and changing the software architecture kwqiRou9k_Q-00076-00017776-00017871 was going to be kwqiRou9k_Q-00077-00017872-00018111 too much too expensive and too long for kwqiRou9k_Q-00078-00018112-00018414 the the timing that i kind of saw happen kwqiRou9k_Q-00079-00018415-00018719 going into late february so um so as i kwqiRou9k_Q-00080-00018720-00018855 did that i brought my kwqiRou9k_Q-00081-00018856-00019103 internal team together and i started um kwqiRou9k_Q-00082-00019104-00019358 doing internal drills of process kwqiRou9k_Q-00083-00019359-00019703 and figuring out what tools i had at our kwqiRou9k_Q-00084-00019704-00020079 uh disposal for specific processes kwqiRou9k_Q-00085-00020080-00020271 and i found that one of the tools that kwqiRou9k_Q-00086-00020272-00020439 we had kwqiRou9k_Q-00087-00020440-00020694 already for project management from i kwqiRou9k_Q-00088-00020695-00020767 was kwqiRou9k_Q-00089-00020768-00020958 organizationally within the fire kwqiRou9k_Q-00090-00020959-00021103 department in our emergency management kwqiRou9k_Q-00091-00021104-00021167 office kwqiRou9k_Q-00092-00021168-00021535 and a previous uh in a previous instance kwqiRou9k_Q-00093-00021536-00021735 the county had procured kwqiRou9k_Q-00094-00021736-00021886 monday.com for the board of kwqiRou9k_Q-00095-00021887-00022103 commissioners to track tasks from the kwqiRou9k_Q-00096-00022104-00022214 commission meetings kwqiRou9k_Q-00097-00022215-00022391 and that was also given a license to the kwqiRou9k_Q-00098-00022392-00022543 fire department that i had kwqiRou9k_Q-00099-00022544-00022807 access to so i i started realizing that kwqiRou9k_Q-00100-00022808-00023007 this tool monday.com kwqiRou9k_Q-00101-00023008-00023222 from a project perspective project kwqiRou9k_Q-00102-00023223-00023391 management perspective really started kwqiRou9k_Q-00103-00023392-00023567 fitting some of the processes that we kwqiRou9k_Q-00104-00023568-00023783 were identifying that needed to be done kwqiRou9k_Q-00105-00023784-00024183 and so um literally had a drill kwqiRou9k_Q-00106-00024184-00024399 evaluated our capabilities for various kwqiRou9k_Q-00107-00024400-00024527 things and then mapped kwqiRou9k_Q-00108-00024528-00024735 crosswalk those improvement items to kwqiRou9k_Q-00109-00024736-00024903 specific tools kwqiRou9k_Q-00110-00024904-00025271 and for uh for notification of our team kwqiRou9k_Q-00111-00025272-00025414 we used our everbridge platform there kwqiRou9k_Q-00112-00025415-00025639 was a specific very specific use case kwqiRou9k_Q-00113-00025639-00025783 for that for everbridge kwqiRou9k_Q-00114-00025783-00025990 then we used a very specific use case kwqiRou9k_Q-00115-00025991-00026094 for collaborative kwqiRou9k_Q-00116-00026095-00026295 environments and that was our team's kwqiRou9k_Q-00117-00026295-00026470 platform so we could have a conversation kwqiRou9k_Q-00118-00026472-00026607 have informal kwqiRou9k_Q-00119-00026608-00026855 meetings and chats on the back end and kwqiRou9k_Q-00120-00026856-00026935 then zoom kwqiRou9k_Q-00121-00026936-00027102 for our video capability and then kwqiRou9k_Q-00122-00027104-00027335 monday.com for all the project and kwqiRou9k_Q-00123-00027336-00027558 process management that is incumbent kwqiRou9k_Q-00124-00027560-00027607 into an kwqiRou9k_Q-00125-00027608-00027958 eoc very good and um kwqiRou9k_Q-00126-00027960-00028223 when when you were looking to activate kwqiRou9k_Q-00127-00028224-00028279 uh kwqiRou9k_Q-00128-00028280-00028599 was was there a certain decision point kwqiRou9k_Q-00129-00028600-00028758 that you had to determine whether you kwqiRou9k_Q-00130-00028760-00028870 were going to be kwqiRou9k_Q-00131-00028872-00029135 in a physical emergency operations kwqiRou9k_Q-00132-00029136-00029246 center or you were going to kwqiRou9k_Q-00133-00029247-00029495 go completely virtual or whether you kwqiRou9k_Q-00134-00029495-00029631 were going to kind of operate in a kwqiRou9k_Q-00135-00029632-00029758 hybrid environment where some people kwqiRou9k_Q-00136-00029760-00029879 would be there at the kwqiRou9k_Q-00137-00029880-00030055 physical eoc and you'd be you know kwqiRou9k_Q-00138-00030056-00030214 working everybody else on the platforms kwqiRou9k_Q-00139-00030216-00030351 that you had mentioned kwqiRou9k_Q-00140-00030352-00030695 yeah so i i requested the public health kwqiRou9k_Q-00141-00030695-00030999 pandemic plan and read through that kwqiRou9k_Q-00142-00031000-00031223 and then understood that i needed to kwqiRou9k_Q-00143-00031224-00031335 prepare whatever kwqiRou9k_Q-00144-00031336-00031655 process for the eoc had to be kwqiRou9k_Q-00145-00031656-00031958 a remote solution totally remote at kwqiRou9k_Q-00146-00031960-00032087 worst case kwqiRou9k_Q-00147-00032088-00032543 so um again we kicked it off kwqiRou9k_Q-00148-00032544-00032855 i think i had i had one meeting kwqiRou9k_Q-00149-00032856-00033111 with the collective group prior to kwqiRou9k_Q-00150-00033112-00033207 activation kwqiRou9k_Q-00151-00033208-00033487 to to really get an understanding of of kwqiRou9k_Q-00152-00033488-00033615 scope of effort kwqiRou9k_Q-00153-00033616-00033974 kind of uh give everybody my strategy kwqiRou9k_Q-00154-00033975-00034190 and coordination and then and also set kwqiRou9k_Q-00155-00034191-00034343 the expectation kwqiRou9k_Q-00156-00034344-00034479 that we were going to do something that kwqiRou9k_Q-00157-00034480-00034711 hadn't been done before and and so kwqiRou9k_Q-00158-00034712-00034790 please give kwqiRou9k_Q-00159-00034791-00035046 give everybody including my emergency kwqiRou9k_Q-00160-00035047-00035207 management staff grace kwqiRou9k_Q-00161-00035208-00035407 because not only were we doing a brand kwqiRou9k_Q-00162-00035408-00035551 new eoc kwqiRou9k_Q-00163-00035552-00035735 organization but we were doing a brand kwqiRou9k_Q-00164-00035736-00035862 new activation kwqiRou9k_Q-00165-00035863-00036127 in process and tools so i i just kwqiRou9k_Q-00166-00036128-00036183 encourage kwqiRou9k_Q-00167-00036184-00036407 grace and understanding at all levels kwqiRou9k_Q-00168-00036408-00036599 and and that was the last time we met as kwqiRou9k_Q-00169-00036600-00036735 a complete ufc kwqiRou9k_Q-00170-00036736-00036999 group i had a had a meeting and then we kwqiRou9k_Q-00171-00037000-00037127 did a we had kwqiRou9k_Q-00172-00037128-00037462 it was a 27 week basically level one kwqiRou9k_Q-00173-00037463-00037639 activation at a complete kwqiRou9k_Q-00174-00037640-00037983 virtual uh operation uh my staff and i kwqiRou9k_Q-00175-00037984-00038102 we we kind of kwqiRou9k_Q-00176-00038103-00038271 uh maybe we're a little control freaks kwqiRou9k_Q-00177-00038272-00038439 we did come in kwqiRou9k_Q-00178-00038440-00038702 but i think that was just you know kwqiRou9k_Q-00179-00038703-00038790 there's four of us kwqiRou9k_Q-00180-00038791-00039023 five of us i think yeah five of us uh we kwqiRou9k_Q-00181-00039024-00039167 would come in again we didn't have to kwqiRou9k_Q-00182-00039168-00039311 but we wanted to to just make sure we kwqiRou9k_Q-00183-00039312-00039462 could have that kwqiRou9k_Q-00184-00039463-00039695 nuanced conversation when needed for for kwqiRou9k_Q-00185-00039696-00039871 control and coordination kwqiRou9k_Q-00186-00039872-00040046 and it was much more manageable too you kwqiRou9k_Q-00187-00040047-00040174 know if you don't if you have poor kwqiRou9k_Q-00188-00040175-00040223 people kwqiRou9k_Q-00189-00040224-00040367 you can certainly just kind of spread kwqiRou9k_Q-00190-00040368-00040559 them out and not have to have to deal kwqiRou9k_Q-00191-00040560-00040655 with the concerns kwqiRou9k_Q-00192-00040656-00040839 of you know a full activation where kwqiRou9k_Q-00193-00040840-00041007 you've got tons and tons of people kwqiRou9k_Q-00194-00041008-00041302 in and out of the room at the same time kwqiRou9k_Q-00195-00041303-00041423 correct kwqiRou9k_Q-00196-00041424-00041655 so um so one of the you know the kwqiRou9k_Q-00197-00041656-00041807 specific reasons that we wanted to talk kwqiRou9k_Q-00198-00041808-00041887 with you kwqiRou9k_Q-00199-00041888-00042239 um as part of inspire was was really kwqiRou9k_Q-00200-00042240-00042407 because this was sort of an innovative kwqiRou9k_Q-00201-00042408-00042518 use case kwqiRou9k_Q-00202-00042519-00042687 of a tool that's not emergency kwqiRou9k_Q-00203-00042688-00042855 management specific it's not designed kwqiRou9k_Q-00204-00042856-00043030 for emergency managers kwqiRou9k_Q-00205-00043031-00043239 um but you you really use this kwqiRou9k_Q-00206-00043240-00043399 monday.com tool kwqiRou9k_Q-00207-00043400-00043727 um to to virtualize your operations um kwqiRou9k_Q-00208-00043728-00043767 so kwqiRou9k_Q-00209-00043768-00043918 kind of tell us a little bit about what kwqiRou9k_Q-00210-00043919-00044071 monday.com is kwqiRou9k_Q-00211-00044072-00044407 and um why you looked at this tool as kwqiRou9k_Q-00212-00044408-00044607 sort of an option in comparison to kwqiRou9k_Q-00213-00044608-00044735 you know going and building something kwqiRou9k_Q-00214-00044736-00045095 yourself sure kwqiRou9k_Q-00215-00045096-00045255 so it's a loaded question with a lot of kwqiRou9k_Q-00216-00045256-00045407 there's a lot of different answers for kwqiRou9k_Q-00217-00045408-00045439 that kwqiRou9k_Q-00218-00045440-00045615 and a lot of very specific reasons for kwqiRou9k_Q-00219-00045616-00045839 that and hopefully i hit most of them kwqiRou9k_Q-00220-00045840-00046246 i think first and foremost um kwqiRou9k_Q-00221-00046247-00046518 being an emergency management for 15 or kwqiRou9k_Q-00222-00046519-00046662 so years the one thing i kwqiRou9k_Q-00223-00046663-00046927 learned over my time is that when you kwqiRou9k_Q-00224-00046928-00047079 have a niche product kwqiRou9k_Q-00225-00047080-00047439 designed with one goal and role in mind kwqiRou9k_Q-00226-00047440-00047679 that's the only thing it can do and kwqiRou9k_Q-00227-00047680-00047855 that's a very limiting perspective kwqiRou9k_Q-00228-00047856-00048023 especially when you get into the scope kwqiRou9k_Q-00229-00048024-00048246 of a worldwide pandemic kwqiRou9k_Q-00230-00048247-00048471 um there's a there's many reasons for kwqiRou9k_Q-00231-00048472-00048623 that right it's one kwqiRou9k_Q-00232-00048624-00048895 it's a specific tool so it doesn't have kwqiRou9k_Q-00233-00048896-00049055 maybe the scale kwqiRou9k_Q-00234-00049056-00049327 or or effort behind the the user kwqiRou9k_Q-00235-00049328-00049590 interface design and back-end support kwqiRou9k_Q-00236-00049591-00049839 so you know historically that that means kwqiRou9k_Q-00237-00049840-00049927 you have smaller kwqiRou9k_Q-00238-00049928-00050095 companies that don't have the back-end kwqiRou9k_Q-00239-00050096-00050279 even i.t support staff to build out a kwqiRou9k_Q-00240-00050280-00050399 robust solution kwqiRou9k_Q-00241-00050400-00050671 so that's one reason i liked monday.com kwqiRou9k_Q-00242-00050672-00050855 when you look at their customer base kwqiRou9k_Q-00243-00050856-00051102 um it is a project management tool and kwqiRou9k_Q-00244-00051103-00051190 it's designed kwqiRou9k_Q-00245-00051191-00051502 to support very many many big fortune kwqiRou9k_Q-00246-00051503-00051687 500 and smaller companies kwqiRou9k_Q-00247-00051688-00051887 and their collaborative efforts across kwqiRou9k_Q-00248-00051888-00052007 the world kwqiRou9k_Q-00249-00052008-00052287 so i knew that it already had the scope kwqiRou9k_Q-00250-00052288-00052519 and scale to support project management kwqiRou9k_Q-00251-00052520-00052694 at a worldwide scale for kwqiRou9k_Q-00252-00052695-00052966 an entity so with me just being a county kwqiRou9k_Q-00253-00052967-00053135 i knew that they could support me kwqiRou9k_Q-00254-00053136-00053438 so that was one big one big tool the kwqiRou9k_Q-00255-00053439-00053607 other reason is because it was kwqiRou9k_Q-00256-00053608-00053847 it's designed for a specific role and kwqiRou9k_Q-00257-00053848-00054047 function being project management it's kwqiRou9k_Q-00258-00054048-00054215 not trying to be all things for kwqiRou9k_Q-00259-00054216-00054335 everybody kwqiRou9k_Q-00260-00054336-00054607 it's not trying to do chat it's not kwqiRou9k_Q-00261-00054608-00054830 trying to to beat a word it's not trying kwqiRou9k_Q-00262-00054832-00054935 to be kwqiRou9k_Q-00263-00054936-00055207 any specific one tool it says we're good kwqiRou9k_Q-00264-00055208-00055350 at project management kwqiRou9k_Q-00265-00055351-00055582 let's be the hub and bolt in to a bunch kwqiRou9k_Q-00266-00055583-00055654 of other kwqiRou9k_Q-00267-00055655-00055911 products so the the the back end kwqiRou9k_Q-00268-00055912-00055999 architecture kwqiRou9k_Q-00269-00056000-00056294 being an open api and having some kwqiRou9k_Q-00270-00056295-00056438 already pre-built kwqiRou9k_Q-00271-00056439-00056871 inner inner interfaces to microsoft 365 kwqiRou9k_Q-00272-00056872-00057230 to zoom to slack and some other kwqiRou9k_Q-00273-00057232-00057463 tools that are out there again showed me kwqiRou9k_Q-00274-00057464-00057582 that that they had an kwqiRou9k_Q-00275-00057583-00057879 open mind and that's of collaboration kwqiRou9k_Q-00276-00057879-00057982 coordination kwqiRou9k_Q-00277-00057983-00058230 and that's the same that was the same kwqiRou9k_Q-00278-00058232-00058438 electronic representation that kwqiRou9k_Q-00279-00058439-00058654 physically i have to embody as emergency kwqiRou9k_Q-00280-00058655-00058711 manager kwqiRou9k_Q-00281-00058712-00058926 i have to collaborate and connect with a kwqiRou9k_Q-00282-00058927-00059023 wide variety kwqiRou9k_Q-00283-00059024-00059271 of disciplines and platforms and people kwqiRou9k_Q-00284-00059272-00059335 and so i kwqiRou9k_Q-00285-00059336-00059511 i need a software that does the exact kwqiRou9k_Q-00286-00059512-00059671 same thing kwqiRou9k_Q-00287-00059672-00059966 sure no and that's a very important kwqiRou9k_Q-00288-00059967-00060150 component of trying to work in this kwqiRou9k_Q-00289-00060151-00060350 environment is you do have to interface kwqiRou9k_Q-00290-00060351-00060519 with so many other tools and kwqiRou9k_Q-00291-00060520-00060806 um it really doesn't do everything you kwqiRou9k_Q-00292-00060807-00060903 have to kwqiRou9k_Q-00293-00060904-00061063 find ways to connect with those other kwqiRou9k_Q-00294-00061064-00061206 systems so that's uh kwqiRou9k_Q-00295-00061207-00061359 it's good to understand you know why you kwqiRou9k_Q-00296-00061360-00061519 went down that route kwqiRou9k_Q-00297-00061520-00061735 um you kind of mentioned this a little kwqiRou9k_Q-00298-00061736-00061879 bit uh kwqiRou9k_Q-00299-00061879-00062038 you know one of the other aspects of kwqiRou9k_Q-00300-00062039-00062175 this session that we're doing is kwqiRou9k_Q-00301-00062176-00062399 virtualizing emergency planning kwqiRou9k_Q-00302-00062400-00062647 and so while you're talking about you kwqiRou9k_Q-00303-00062648-00062854 know virtualizing the eoc it also sounds kwqiRou9k_Q-00304-00062855-00062959 like you use kwqiRou9k_Q-00305-00062960-00063271 this tool for your sort of day-to-day kwqiRou9k_Q-00306-00063272-00063399 operations kwqiRou9k_Q-00307-00063400-00063663 within um within the uh the emergency kwqiRou9k_Q-00308-00063664-00063823 management department so kwqiRou9k_Q-00309-00063824-00064126 um how are you using this tool uh kwqiRou9k_Q-00310-00064127-00064279 you know as a sort of a project kwqiRou9k_Q-00311-00064279-00064479 management tool for emergency management kwqiRou9k_Q-00312-00064479-00064775 sure um so yeah that's that's how i fell kwqiRou9k_Q-00313-00064776-00064991 into monday i was using monday.com again kwqiRou9k_Q-00314-00064991-00065166 as a project management tool kwqiRou9k_Q-00315-00065167-00065423 prior to lead to flipping it if you will kwqiRou9k_Q-00316-00065424-00065582 into an eoc management kwqiRou9k_Q-00317-00065583-00065911 tool so um you know again that's the kwqiRou9k_Q-00318-00065912-00066071 true power of monday.com kwqiRou9k_Q-00319-00066072-00066367 is is in fact it is a it is a task kwqiRou9k_Q-00320-00066368-00066615 management and project management kwqiRou9k_Q-00321-00066616-00067031 uh goliath uh it its visualization of kwqiRou9k_Q-00322-00067032-00067119 data kwqiRou9k_Q-00323-00067120-00067431 the ease of it not being uh so most of kwqiRou9k_Q-00324-00067432-00067591 the software's we deal with say even kwqiRou9k_Q-00325-00067592-00067663 excel kwqiRou9k_Q-00326-00067664-00067815 when you're trying to do gantt charts or kwqiRou9k_Q-00327-00067816-00067975 trying to do pivot tables and some of kwqiRou9k_Q-00328-00067976-00068094 the things that i don't even know kwqiRou9k_Q-00329-00068095-00068382 what those mean uh it takes a very kwqiRou9k_Q-00330-00068383-00068447 advanced kwqiRou9k_Q-00331-00068448-00068711 skill set of understanding to visualize kwqiRou9k_Q-00332-00068712-00068975 data you know access tried to do it for kwqiRou9k_Q-00333-00068976-00069175 a while but it wasn't kwqiRou9k_Q-00334-00069176-00069447 it was still too cumbersome for for kwqiRou9k_Q-00335-00069448-00069735 somebody like myself that's not it savvy kwqiRou9k_Q-00336-00069736-00069950 um so what monday did is it took some of kwqiRou9k_Q-00337-00069951-00070038 those basic kwqiRou9k_Q-00338-00070039-00070359 building blocks and concepts and and kwqiRou9k_Q-00339-00070360-00070567 through whatever magical it interface kwqiRou9k_Q-00340-00070568-00070711 it's able to take kwqiRou9k_Q-00341-00070712-00071071 very complex data sets very long kwqiRou9k_Q-00342-00071072-00071326 tables and with a click of a button flip kwqiRou9k_Q-00343-00071327-00071375 it kwqiRou9k_Q-00344-00071376-00071726 into a visual gantt chart into kanban kwqiRou9k_Q-00345-00071727-00071911 or into other visual records they even kwqiRou9k_Q-00346-00071912-00072126 have llamas for for tasks kwqiRou9k_Q-00347-00072127-00072350 they they flip task management into kwqiRou9k_Q-00348-00072351-00072623 dancing llamas if you if you so choose kwqiRou9k_Q-00349-00072624-00072855 uh to give some fun thing and so for us kwqiRou9k_Q-00350-00072856-00072935 just as kwqiRou9k_Q-00351-00072936-00073094 fun case and point we already had tasks kwqiRou9k_Q-00352-00073095-00073350 for llamas uh but in during covet kwqiRou9k_Q-00353-00073351-00073423 because of the kwqiRou9k_Q-00354-00073424-00073726 the the heaviness of the response that kwqiRou9k_Q-00355-00073727-00073894 we were doing and the just kwqiRou9k_Q-00356-00073895-00074126 the long hours we were doing we flipped kwqiRou9k_Q-00357-00074127-00074326 all of our resource requests kwqiRou9k_Q-00358-00074327-00074582 into llamas and for my staff we had that kwqiRou9k_Q-00359-00074583-00074775 running on the front of the eoc at all kwqiRou9k_Q-00360-00074776-00074959 times just to add some levity kwqiRou9k_Q-00361-00074960-00075159 to the weight of all the literally kwqiRou9k_Q-00362-00075160-00075391 hundreds of resource requests we were kwqiRou9k_Q-00363-00075392-00075471 getting kwqiRou9k_Q-00364-00075472-00075694 um and so all that to answer your kwqiRou9k_Q-00365-00075695-00075775 question kwqiRou9k_Q-00366-00075776-00076023 you know in emergency management we're kwqiRou9k_Q-00367-00076024-00076111 scoped out kwqiRou9k_Q-00368-00076112-00076319 to a minimum of 12 months and so to kwqiRou9k_Q-00369-00076320-00076462 backwards plan kwqiRou9k_Q-00370-00076463-00076791 here's the project here is the uh kwqiRou9k_Q-00371-00076792-00077094 sub projects because it takes many many kwqiRou9k_Q-00372-00077095-00077199 blocks to build kwqiRou9k_Q-00373-00077200-00077503 a thing to use a lego block analogy to kwqiRou9k_Q-00374-00077504-00077662 build one starship you need all these kwqiRou9k_Q-00375-00077663-00077871 other blocks to be laid out first kwqiRou9k_Q-00376-00077872-00078103 uh monday.com does a really good way to kwqiRou9k_Q-00377-00078104-00078215 do that visually kwqiRou9k_Q-00378-00078216-00078511 and connectively for the data to show kwqiRou9k_Q-00379-00078512-00078606 workflow kwqiRou9k_Q-00380-00078607-00078879 to show process management and to show kwqiRou9k_Q-00381-00078880-00078999 um kwqiRou9k_Q-00382-00079000-00079206 a workload by person so there's a lot of kwqiRou9k_Q-00383-00079207-00079406 good i'm very visual so there's a lot of kwqiRou9k_Q-00384-00079407-00079582 really great visualizations of that data kwqiRou9k_Q-00385-00079583-00079719 that are very easy to kwqiRou9k_Q-00386-00079720-00079903 to do and a lot of templates they have a kwqiRou9k_Q-00387-00079904-00080094 lot of templates that you could just kwqiRou9k_Q-00388-00080095-00080262 bring in and they already work with all kwqiRou9k_Q-00389-00080263-00080479 of the automations and integrations kwqiRou9k_Q-00390-00080480-00080671 ahead of time so that's very nice and kwqiRou9k_Q-00391-00080672-00080879 that's something that 365 kwqiRou9k_Q-00392-00080880-00081126 i love 365 again because all of our word kwqiRou9k_Q-00393-00081127-00081319 documents all of our products kwqiRou9k_Q-00394-00081320-00081623 are built on the ms platform kwqiRou9k_Q-00395-00081624-00081967 but it can be difficult and cumbersome kwqiRou9k_Q-00396-00081968-00082143 on the microsoft side kwqiRou9k_Q-00397-00082144-00082367 to to make some of the things work kwqiRou9k_Q-00398-00082368-00082494 visually kwqiRou9k_Q-00399-00082495-00082679 that you want and that's where i think kwqiRou9k_Q-00400-00082680-00082855 that's the power lends itself to kwqiRou9k_Q-00401-00082856-00083071 monday.com for me kwqiRou9k_Q-00402-00083072-00083326 perfect and and just as a teaser for kwqiRou9k_Q-00403-00083327-00083535 those who are watching this kwqiRou9k_Q-00404-00083536-00083743 there is another session on project kwqiRou9k_Q-00405-00083744-00083959 management for emergency management so kwqiRou9k_Q-00406-00083960-00084094 make sure you check that out as well kwqiRou9k_Q-00407-00084095-00084206 because it'll talk about some of the kwqiRou9k_Q-00408-00084207-00084359 fundamentals of what kwqiRou9k_Q-00409-00084360-00084623 hal is mentioning about kanban and um kwqiRou9k_Q-00410-00084624-00084750 gantt charts and kwqiRou9k_Q-00411-00084751-00084975 all those different things so definitely kwqiRou9k_Q-00412-00084976-00085062 watch that kwqiRou9k_Q-00413-00085063-00085482 yeah so kwqiRou9k_Q-00414-00085483-00085767 um i i guess you know to kind of kwqiRou9k_Q-00415-00085768-00086071 tell me a little bit about um what were kwqiRou9k_Q-00416-00086072-00086247 some of the significant lessons learned kwqiRou9k_Q-00417-00086248-00086487 from from rolling out a system like this kwqiRou9k_Q-00418-00086488-00086615 uh because kwqiRou9k_Q-00419-00086616-00086767 you know i can think of any time i've kwqiRou9k_Q-00420-00086768-00086982 ever rolled out some sort of a i.t kwqiRou9k_Q-00421-00086983-00087335 related service in our office kwqiRou9k_Q-00422-00087336-00087511 there's always lessons learned from you kwqiRou9k_Q-00423-00087512-00087662 know pushing it out there something i kwqiRou9k_Q-00424-00087663-00087799 wish i would have thought of before i kwqiRou9k_Q-00425-00087800-00087855 did it kwqiRou9k_Q-00426-00087856-00088143 or or after the fact i said man i should kwqiRou9k_Q-00427-00088144-00088318 have asked for that feature or tested kwqiRou9k_Q-00428-00088319-00088406 this out before i kwqiRou9k_Q-00429-00088407-00088662 i did it any big lessons learned from kwqiRou9k_Q-00430-00088663-00088775 from rolling out this kwqiRou9k_Q-00431-00088776-00089111 tool uh prior to coven kwqiRou9k_Q-00432-00089112-00089343 uh yeah always always beg for kwqiRou9k_Q-00433-00089344-00089511 forgiveness ahead of time kwqiRou9k_Q-00434-00089512-00089831 again um we we had a well-established kwqiRou9k_Q-00435-00089832-00089999 previous software that was trained to kwqiRou9k_Q-00436-00090000-00090182 buy most of my eoc team kwqiRou9k_Q-00437-00090183-00090487 and i came in and literally said we're kwqiRou9k_Q-00438-00090488-00090631 killing the contract and we're going kwqiRou9k_Q-00439-00090632-00090775 with this kwqiRou9k_Q-00440-00090776-00091023 just before we activated for a real kwqiRou9k_Q-00441-00091024-00091150 world incident kwqiRou9k_Q-00442-00091151-00091423 so so one of the things that that some kwqiRou9k_Q-00443-00091424-00091535 of the support things i learned that kwqiRou9k_Q-00444-00091536-00091567 work kwqiRou9k_Q-00445-00091568-00091879 really well is every eoc briefing uh kwqiRou9k_Q-00446-00091880-00092111 i make sure it's involved ahead of time kwqiRou9k_Q-00447-00092112-00092303 if you don't have an advocate for it kwqiRou9k_Q-00448-00092304-00092559 em becomes i.t and that's not good hr kwqiRou9k_Q-00449-00092560-00092615 right kwqiRou9k_Q-00450-00092616-00092918 um em cannot be i.t and and kwqiRou9k_Q-00451-00092919-00093118 that is a big deal and i had a strong kwqiRou9k_Q-00452-00093119-00093271 and i can't say this enough that kwqiRou9k_Q-00453-00093272-00093518 the monday.com success that alachua kwqiRou9k_Q-00454-00093519-00093606 county had kwqiRou9k_Q-00455-00093607-00093862 was because of a very strong and very uh kwqiRou9k_Q-00456-00093863-00094015 upfront kwqiRou9k_Q-00457-00094016-00094311 and and directed staff to support my kwqiRou9k_Q-00458-00094312-00094406 rule out kwqiRou9k_Q-00459-00094407-00094582 and so one of the things he would do is kwqiRou9k_Q-00460-00094583-00094806 is is every one of our brief things kwqiRou9k_Q-00461-00094807-00094959 because i we knew and understood that we kwqiRou9k_Q-00462-00094960-00095047 were going to have to do some kwqiRou9k_Q-00463-00095048-00095174 just-in-time training kwqiRou9k_Q-00464-00095175-00095503 so we held just in time training uh we kwqiRou9k_Q-00465-00095504-00095767 we created a tip of the day um for kwqiRou9k_Q-00466-00095768-00095838 monday kwqiRou9k_Q-00467-00095839-00096062 uh every time we did a uh one of our we kwqiRou9k_Q-00468-00096063-00096206 our operational periods were week kwqiRou9k_Q-00469-00096207-00096406 week-long operational periods kwqiRou9k_Q-00470-00096407-00096606 uh for a bunch of we can talk about that kwqiRou9k_Q-00471-00096607-00096774 at another time that's a great that was kwqiRou9k_Q-00472-00096775-00096887 a great thing too kwqiRou9k_Q-00473-00096888-00097038 uh week-long operational periods at the kwqiRou9k_Q-00474-00097039-00097247 front end and so for every operational kwqiRou9k_Q-00475-00097248-00097391 period briefing we would do kwqiRou9k_Q-00476-00097392-00097671 a tip or a trick of monday.com to help kwqiRou9k_Q-00477-00097672-00097823 people understand some of the cool kwqiRou9k_Q-00478-00097824-00097967 features within that kwqiRou9k_Q-00479-00097968-00098406 great idea you know so so i t kwqiRou9k_Q-00480-00098407-00098567 doing making sure you're still teaching kwqiRou9k_Q-00481-00098568-00098782 and training uh not being afraid to kwqiRou9k_Q-00482-00098783-00098815 change kwqiRou9k_Q-00483-00098816-00099062 process in the midst stream uh there was kwqiRou9k_Q-00484-00099063-00099118 times kwqiRou9k_Q-00485-00099119-00099359 again and that's why i really love uh kwqiRou9k_Q-00486-00099360-00099615 monday.com is it did not take html kwqiRou9k_Q-00487-00099616-00099806 or or any sort of coding to change kwqiRou9k_Q-00488-00099807-00099950 something on the fly you could literally kwqiRou9k_Q-00489-00099951-00100023 right click kwqiRou9k_Q-00490-00100024-00100335 change and get it done so uh having the kwqiRou9k_Q-00491-00100336-00100447 the flexibility kwqiRou9k_Q-00492-00100448-00100662 and the buy-in from the team to make a kwqiRou9k_Q-00493-00100663-00100831 quick on-the-fly change and train to it kwqiRou9k_Q-00494-00100832-00100894 immediately kwqiRou9k_Q-00495-00100895-00101238 was a big huge thing so being kwqiRou9k_Q-00496-00101239-00101431 establishing that need to be flexible at kwqiRou9k_Q-00497-00101432-00101574 the front end you know kwqiRou9k_Q-00498-00101575-00101799 again this is coordination not command kwqiRou9k_Q-00499-00101800-00101918 at the ufc level so kwqiRou9k_Q-00500-00101919-00102143 some of those ics strict things you can kwqiRou9k_Q-00501-00102144-00102326 get away with in an eoc to be to be more kwqiRou9k_Q-00502-00102327-00102494 flexible and nimble kwqiRou9k_Q-00503-00102495-00102775 um other things that i learned was kwqiRou9k_Q-00504-00102776-00102854 licensing kwqiRou9k_Q-00505-00102855-00103078 was really great with money.com i didn't kwqiRou9k_Q-00506-00103079-00103182 understand that if kwqiRou9k_Q-00507-00103183-00103318 the difference between a full license a kwqiRou9k_Q-00508-00103319-00103575 guest license and a viewer license kwqiRou9k_Q-00509-00103576-00103830 but um there's some power in learning kwqiRou9k_Q-00510-00103831-00103975 the licensing kwqiRou9k_Q-00511-00103976-00104254 of that and uh and the openness of its kwqiRou9k_Q-00512-00104255-00104318 forms kwqiRou9k_Q-00513-00104319-00104454 for people that don't need to be in a kwqiRou9k_Q-00514-00104455-00104678 virtual eoc not everybody needs a kwqiRou9k_Q-00515-00104679-00104742 license kwqiRou9k_Q-00516-00104743-00105015 to be in your eoc so so having a system kwqiRou9k_Q-00517-00105016-00105231 that's able to flip out some of the kwqiRou9k_Q-00518-00105232-00105302 features kwqiRou9k_Q-00519-00105303-00105510 to people that don't need a license but kwqiRou9k_Q-00520-00105511-00105719 need you need their input kwqiRou9k_Q-00521-00105720-00105983 that was a big learning curve again in kwqiRou9k_Q-00522-00105983-00106110 leveraging the tool to be more kwqiRou9k_Q-00523-00106111-00106231 successful kwqiRou9k_Q-00524-00106232-00106399 there's some disadvantages of that right kwqiRou9k_Q-00525-00106400-00106527 like then you've got people that are kwqiRou9k_Q-00526-00106528-00106695 able to input information that may not kwqiRou9k_Q-00527-00106696-00106871 need to input information kwqiRou9k_Q-00528-00106872-00107102 so we we figured out some of those kwqiRou9k_Q-00529-00107103-00107239 things uh kwqiRou9k_Q-00530-00107240-00107575 pretty easily and pretty quickly kwqiRou9k_Q-00531-00107576-00107807 the um yeah that was one of our kwqiRou9k_Q-00532-00107808-00107934 challenges too was kwqiRou9k_Q-00533-00107935-00108183 was around you know kind of permissions kwqiRou9k_Q-00534-00108183-00108375 and credentials like who kwqiRou9k_Q-00535-00108376-00108654 who needed licenses and who didn't um kwqiRou9k_Q-00536-00108655-00108751 especially since we had kwqiRou9k_Q-00537-00108752-00108927 so many external stakeholders that kwqiRou9k_Q-00538-00108928-00109078 weren't they don't have kwqiRou9k_Q-00539-00109079-00109302 credentials on the city i.t system so kwqiRou9k_Q-00540-00109303-00109510 it's it's not like we can easily just kwqiRou9k_Q-00541-00109511-00109615 say you know kwqiRou9k_Q-00542-00109616-00109854 provide permissions to anybody with this kwqiRou9k_Q-00543-00109855-00110023 type of an email address so kwqiRou9k_Q-00544-00110024-00110183 it definitely is one of those things to kwqiRou9k_Q-00545-00110183-00110343 to consider i think is you roll out a kwqiRou9k_Q-00546-00110344-00110495 system like this kwqiRou9k_Q-00547-00110496-00110710 yeah we created a it wasn't a public kwqiRou9k_Q-00548-00110711-00110999 page but it was a publicly accessible kwqiRou9k_Q-00549-00111000-00111231 page with the links to the eoc it was kwqiRou9k_Q-00550-00111232-00111423 the virtual eoc interface if you want kwqiRou9k_Q-00551-00111424-00111478 it's like kwqiRou9k_Q-00552-00111479-00111663 click here for a resource request and kwqiRou9k_Q-00553-00111664-00111871 you could sim any but anybody kwqiRou9k_Q-00554-00111872-00112015 could submit a resource request and that kwqiRou9k_Q-00555-00112016-00112166 was a big thing we learned with covid kwqiRou9k_Q-00556-00112167-00112215 because kwqiRou9k_Q-00557-00112216-00112431 our stakeholder population went from kwqiRou9k_Q-00558-00112432-00112519 this many kwqiRou9k_Q-00559-00112520-00112775 to this many very quickly because of all kwqiRou9k_Q-00560-00112776-00112934 the long-term healthcare facilities kwqiRou9k_Q-00561-00112935-00113063 nursing homes kwqiRou9k_Q-00562-00113064-00113310 uh healthcare professionals that don't kwqiRou9k_Q-00563-00113311-00113431 historically request kwqiRou9k_Q-00564-00113432-00113815 resources we had to flip that idea kwqiRou9k_Q-00565-00113816-00114143 into a more open space and then same kwqiRou9k_Q-00566-00114144-00114199 with kwqiRou9k_Q-00567-00114200-00114327 information updates and other things kwqiRou9k_Q-00568-00114328-00114551 like they can fill out a form kwqiRou9k_Q-00569-00114552-00114871 but then we still needed that that data kwqiRou9k_Q-00570-00114872-00115215 to to fill into a database that had kwqiRou9k_Q-00571-00115216-00115599 on the eoc side the correct authorities kwqiRou9k_Q-00572-00115600-00115919 and processes within them to vet kwqiRou9k_Q-00573-00115920-00116215 validate an action and that's again a kwqiRou9k_Q-00574-00116216-00116407 very powerful part of what kwqiRou9k_Q-00575-00116408-00116678 monday.com gave us yeah that's good kwqiRou9k_Q-00576-00116679-00116815 that's great kwqiRou9k_Q-00577-00116816-00117207 um so kind of tell me about some of the kwqiRou9k_Q-00578-00117208-00117431 the key processes that you were using kwqiRou9k_Q-00579-00117432-00117543 this tool for kwqiRou9k_Q-00580-00117544-00117790 um you know whether it was sounds like kwqiRou9k_Q-00581-00117791-00117943 you were using it for resource requests kwqiRou9k_Q-00582-00117944-00118102 what else were you using kwqiRou9k_Q-00583-00118103-00118407 um this this tool for within the eoc kwqiRou9k_Q-00584-00118408-00118654 the work so yeah resource request was kwqiRou9k_Q-00585-00118655-00118927 was first and foremost that's to me kwqiRou9k_Q-00586-00118928-00119158 uh that's our bread and butter within kwqiRou9k_Q-00587-00119159-00119319 our emergency operations centers kwqiRou9k_Q-00588-00119320-00119558 is is filling haves and needs whether kwqiRou9k_Q-00589-00119559-00119654 that's for a thing kwqiRou9k_Q-00590-00119655-00119983 or or a thought uh we need to to be able kwqiRou9k_Q-00591-00119983-00120151 to connect haves and needs kwqiRou9k_Q-00592-00120152-00120431 and gaps with them um so yeah resource kwqiRou9k_Q-00593-00120432-00120599 requests and that's a very kwqiRou9k_Q-00594-00120600-00120919 very specific process and so within that kwqiRou9k_Q-00595-00120920-00121199 especially with kovid we had this we we kwqiRou9k_Q-00596-00121200-00121486 had very limited and finite resources kwqiRou9k_Q-00597-00121488-00121799 but with a very large demand so kwqiRou9k_Q-00598-00121800-00121975 to physically we had to collect those kwqiRou9k_Q-00599-00121976-00122271 into a unified staging area but we also kwqiRou9k_Q-00600-00122272-00122343 had to kwqiRou9k_Q-00601-00122344-00122575 make sure that we had the capability to kwqiRou9k_Q-00602-00122576-00122702 to note those kwqiRou9k_Q-00603-00122703-00122966 in a real-time database and again so we kwqiRou9k_Q-00604-00122967-00123151 used it for resource inventory kwqiRou9k_Q-00605-00123152-00123463 um so it was a really cool uh unique kwqiRou9k_Q-00606-00123464-00123686 tool for for again they have these kwqiRou9k_Q-00607-00123688-00123854 things called mirrored columns where you kwqiRou9k_Q-00608-00123855-00124071 could mirror the data in one kwqiRou9k_Q-00609-00124072-00124327 place directly to another place and if i kwqiRou9k_Q-00610-00124328-00124423 said it was kwqiRou9k_Q-00611-00124424-00124743 if it was uh staged or whatever it would kwqiRou9k_Q-00612-00124744-00124886 show up in the resource request as it kwqiRou9k_Q-00613-00124888-00125007 would in the resource inventory kwqiRou9k_Q-00614-00125008-00125071 immediately kwqiRou9k_Q-00615-00125072-00125310 and so there was there was no lag or kwqiRou9k_Q-00616-00125311-00125431 data management kwqiRou9k_Q-00617-00125432-00125678 need which was huge to us so that was a kwqiRou9k_Q-00618-00125679-00125783 big one kwqiRou9k_Q-00619-00125783-00126078 significant updates and information i kwqiRou9k_Q-00620-00126079-00126127 have kwqiRou9k_Q-00621-00126128-00126502 so again i had to think how to create a kwqiRou9k_Q-00622-00126503-00126558 virtual kwqiRou9k_Q-00623-00126559-00126766 eoc and so one of the first things that kwqiRou9k_Q-00624-00126767-00126895 you think about kwqiRou9k_Q-00625-00126896-00127151 in a virtual eoc is the conversations kwqiRou9k_Q-00626-00127152-00127302 that you have that's one of the most kwqiRou9k_Q-00627-00127303-00127390 important kwqiRou9k_Q-00628-00127391-00127599 things that you have now you can have kwqiRou9k_Q-00629-00127600-00127766 conversation in teams kwqiRou9k_Q-00630-00127767-00127990 and i love teams have that informal kwqiRou9k_Q-00631-00127991-00128207 conversation have the chatter kwqiRou9k_Q-00632-00128208-00128431 but just like chattering formerly in an kwqiRou9k_Q-00633-00128432-00128543 eoc kwqiRou9k_Q-00634-00128544-00128790 where do you document the official chat kwqiRou9k_Q-00635-00128791-00128934 right like where when you go to a kwqiRou9k_Q-00636-00128935-00129102 breakout room and you have the kwqiRou9k_Q-00637-00129103-00129407 the dedicated conversation that those kwqiRou9k_Q-00638-00129408-00129590 thoughts and those actions mean kwqiRou9k_Q-00639-00129591-00129839 something well we move those informal kwqiRou9k_Q-00640-00129840-00130086 kind of chatter conversations into an kwqiRou9k_Q-00641-00130088-00130247 old school discussion thread on kwqiRou9k_Q-00642-00130248-00130399 monday.com to where you can kwqiRou9k_Q-00643-00130400-00130695 have a we call it a topic tracker you kwqiRou9k_Q-00644-00130696-00130863 have a topic tracker so if we have in kwqiRou9k_Q-00645-00130864-00130990 the chat like hey we're getting a lot of kwqiRou9k_Q-00646-00130991-00131166 calls about shelter needs or hey what kwqiRou9k_Q-00647-00131167-00131239 about this kwqiRou9k_Q-00648-00131240-00131423 non-congregate shelter idea who knows kwqiRou9k_Q-00649-00131424-00131543 about that oh we probably need to kwqiRou9k_Q-00650-00131544-00131671 coordinate that well kwqiRou9k_Q-00651-00131672-00131878 let's let's mark this conversation as kwqiRou9k_Q-00652-00131879-00132031 official topic tracker kwqiRou9k_Q-00653-00132032-00132166 and then let's identify the people that kwqiRou9k_Q-00654-00132167-00132335 need to be in this conversation we can kwqiRou9k_Q-00655-00132336-00132375 track kwqiRou9k_Q-00656-00132376-00132639 back to that topic and so we did that kwqiRou9k_Q-00657-00132640-00132823 and then if a topic becomes a resource kwqiRou9k_Q-00658-00132824-00132927 request well kwqiRou9k_Q-00659-00132928-00133054 now you submit an official resource kwqiRou9k_Q-00660-00133055-00133247 request and you can follow that thought kwqiRou9k_Q-00661-00133248-00133575 to action all in one one place kwqiRou9k_Q-00662-00133576-00133807 so topic tracker then again there's the kwqiRou9k_Q-00663-00133808-00134063 other idea of conversations in the ufc kwqiRou9k_Q-00664-00134064-00134214 you have the lull kwqiRou9k_Q-00665-00134215-00134390 and then all of a sudden someone says kwqiRou9k_Q-00666-00134391-00134654 attention in the eoc you know broken kwqiRou9k_Q-00667-00134655-00134702 arrow kwqiRou9k_Q-00668-00134703-00134975 or whatever it is like so so how do you kwqiRou9k_Q-00669-00134976-00135047 create this kwqiRou9k_Q-00670-00135048-00135319 attention in the eoc without using kwqiRou9k_Q-00671-00135320-00135471 everbridge because i don't want to abuse kwqiRou9k_Q-00672-00135472-00135639 my ever bridge system either kwqiRou9k_Q-00673-00135640-00135887 so uh within monday.com they have a kwqiRou9k_Q-00674-00135888-00136143 great act and that's another big plus kwqiRou9k_Q-00675-00136144-00136311 they have a great app and then the kwqiRou9k_Q-00676-00136312-00136487 integrations of notifications kwqiRou9k_Q-00677-00136488-00136631 we created anybody can send a kwqiRou9k_Q-00678-00136632-00136823 significant update kwqiRou9k_Q-00679-00136824-00136999 they can say that it's emergency which kwqiRou9k_Q-00680-00137000-00137143 is fine uh kwqiRou9k_Q-00681-00137144-00137311 on the back end once that was submitted kwqiRou9k_Q-00682-00137312-00137447 from anywhere kwqiRou9k_Q-00683-00137448-00137695 on the back end my emergency management kwqiRou9k_Q-00684-00137696-00137751 function kwqiRou9k_Q-00685-00137752-00137943 or my situational awareness function had kwqiRou9k_Q-00686-00137944-00138095 the ability to vet kwqiRou9k_Q-00687-00138096-00138295 they would get notified that someone kwqiRou9k_Q-00688-00138296-00138447 sent a significant update kwqiRou9k_Q-00689-00138448-00138575 from their phone or wherever they were kwqiRou9k_Q-00690-00138576-00138783 at they could read it and then they kwqiRou9k_Q-00691-00138784-00138871 could do kwqiRou9k_Q-00692-00138872-00139111 ascend to all which is send to all is kwqiRou9k_Q-00693-00139112-00139254 attention to the eoc kwqiRou9k_Q-00694-00139255-00139614 so they could um basically kwqiRou9k_Q-00695-00139615-00139943 say attention to uc virtually and so kwqiRou9k_Q-00696-00139944-00140087 or they could just say here's a here's kwqiRou9k_Q-00697-00140088-00140239 good information and that we could track kwqiRou9k_Q-00698-00140240-00140375 good information or kwqiRou9k_Q-00699-00140376-00140735 like we all learned in a covid kwqiRou9k_Q-00700-00140736-00141047 new files new updates new sogs new kwqiRou9k_Q-00701-00141048-00141254 best practices were coming out from fema kwqiRou9k_Q-00702-00141255-00141423 and elsewhere and so we created a file kwqiRou9k_Q-00703-00141424-00141607 library and again the search kwqiRou9k_Q-00704-00141608-00141766 the way monday searches is really kwqiRou9k_Q-00705-00141767-00141966 dynamic and so it added a lot of kwqiRou9k_Q-00706-00141967-00142119 capabilities that were kwqiRou9k_Q-00707-00142120-00142439 outside of traditional kwqiRou9k_Q-00708-00142440-00143126 uh mechanisms okay and then kwqiRou9k_Q-00709-00143127-00143295 so again and so other things that we had kwqiRou9k_Q-00710-00143296-00143495 to mirror uh when you walk into an kwqiRou9k_Q-00711-00143496-00143687 eoc you want to see who's there we kwqiRou9k_Q-00712-00143688-00143847 created an active staffing board kwqiRou9k_Q-00713-00143848-00144063 and literally it was a board of like the kwqiRou9k_Q-00714-00144064-00144295 status was either like kwqiRou9k_Q-00715-00144296-00144599 on or out or at you know so we could you kwqiRou9k_Q-00716-00144600-00144654 could kwqiRou9k_Q-00717-00144655-00144823 virtually say okay here's everybody kwqiRou9k_Q-00718-00144824-00145063 who's in the eoc right now kwqiRou9k_Q-00719-00145064-00145175 and then you can see their name and kwqiRou9k_Q-00720-00145176-00145343 number and what we did for our physical kwqiRou9k_Q-00721-00145344-00145471 eoc because we didn't want to get kwqiRou9k_Q-00722-00145472-00145654 people's cell phone numbers out kwqiRou9k_Q-00723-00145655-00145999 we we posted a public eoc kwqiRou9k_Q-00724-00146000-00146190 phone number roster for our physical kwqiRou9k_Q-00725-00146191-00146407 phones but then we we would kwqiRou9k_Q-00726-00146408-00146583 make sure on this active staffing that kwqiRou9k_Q-00727-00146584-00146735 they would make sure that their phone kwqiRou9k_Q-00728-00146736-00146847 was forwarded kwqiRou9k_Q-00729-00146848-00147078 so we could give out publicly the eoc kwqiRou9k_Q-00730-00147079-00147239 cisco phone but then forward it to their kwqiRou9k_Q-00731-00147240-00147375 cell phone and that was all kind of kwqiRou9k_Q-00732-00147376-00147631 again task managed and process managed kwqiRou9k_Q-00733-00147632-00147943 on this active staffing board and then kwqiRou9k_Q-00734-00147944-00148159 final final feature again when you walk kwqiRou9k_Q-00735-00148160-00148319 into an eoc physically one of the kwqiRou9k_Q-00736-00148320-00148551 benefits of physical eoc kwqiRou9k_Q-00737-00148552-00148735 is seeing all the monitors around you kwqiRou9k_Q-00738-00148736-00148887 and seeing all the data kwqiRou9k_Q-00739-00148888-00149119 in a visual instance that you can see kwqiRou9k_Q-00740-00149120-00149263 all the processes kwqiRou9k_Q-00741-00149264-00149423 and monday.com they have a feature kwqiRou9k_Q-00742-00149424-00149590 called dashboards kwqiRou9k_Q-00743-00149591-00149863 and these dashboards take a lot of data kwqiRou9k_Q-00744-00149864-00149943 make it kwqiRou9k_Q-00745-00149944-00150159 visually appealing and you can even pull kwqiRou9k_Q-00746-00150160-00150343 in kwqiRou9k_Q-00747-00150344-00150607 outside web parts or outside web pages kwqiRou9k_Q-00748-00150608-00150711 you can pull them in and you can kwqiRou9k_Q-00749-00150712-00150863 interact with them without having to kwqiRou9k_Q-00750-00150864-00151087 just put a list of urls and then have to kwqiRou9k_Q-00751-00151088-00151335 go into another tab so in their app kwqiRou9k_Q-00752-00151336-00151695 when you go to the eoc monitoring kwqiRou9k_Q-00753-00151696-00151878 all of the visual representation i could kwqiRou9k_Q-00754-00151879-00152119 show you on my phone are all kwqiRou9k_Q-00755-00152120-00152343 visually there again as if you were kwqiRou9k_Q-00756-00152344-00152599 looking around in an emc kwqiRou9k_Q-00757-00152600-00152911 wow now and just kwqiRou9k_Q-00758-00152912-00153063 from what you've just said it sounds kwqiRou9k_Q-00759-00153064-00153231 like you were able to kwqiRou9k_Q-00760-00153232-00153526 replicate a good portion if not the kwqiRou9k_Q-00761-00153527-00153695 majority of kwqiRou9k_Q-00762-00153696-00153854 your emergency operation center kwqiRou9k_Q-00763-00153855-00154054 functions would you say kwqiRou9k_Q-00764-00154055-00154359 that would you say that um would kwqiRou9k_Q-00765-00154360-00154599 any of them you're able to do it better kwqiRou9k_Q-00766-00154600-00154678 because kwqiRou9k_Q-00767-00154679-00154887 of the way that you were able to use the kwqiRou9k_Q-00768-00154888-00154990 virtual environment kwqiRou9k_Q-00769-00154991-00155223 you know as an example did it seem like kwqiRou9k_Q-00770-00155224-00155302 um kwqiRou9k_Q-00771-00155303-00155511 resource requests were getting lost less kwqiRou9k_Q-00772-00155512-00155663 because there was less paperwork or kwqiRou9k_Q-00773-00155664-00155799 things like that involved kwqiRou9k_Q-00774-00155800-00155959 was there anything that was sort of made kwqiRou9k_Q-00775-00155960-00156159 more efficient or improved kwqiRou9k_Q-00776-00156160-00156366 uh because you were working in a virtual kwqiRou9k_Q-00777-00156367-00156511 environment kwqiRou9k_Q-00778-00156512-00156847 sure uh yes to less paper i hate kwqiRou9k_Q-00779-00156848-00157175 paper um blow that kwqiRou9k_Q-00780-00157176-00157414 low that loaded um for those reasons you kwqiRou9k_Q-00781-00157415-00157519 mentioned kwqiRou9k_Q-00782-00157520-00157766 the other thing it really did that i kwqiRou9k_Q-00783-00157767-00157943 wasn't ready for but i was very kwqiRou9k_Q-00784-00157944-00158047 appreciative of kwqiRou9k_Q-00785-00158048-00158247 is is everybody everybody wants to do kwqiRou9k_Q-00786-00158248-00158407 well i i kwqiRou9k_Q-00787-00158408-00158647 genuinely feel that but what it did was kwqiRou9k_Q-00788-00158648-00158735 it allowed kwqiRou9k_Q-00789-00158736-00159054 people to own their roles in a way kwqiRou9k_Q-00790-00159055-00159223 i don't think they ever had before kwqiRou9k_Q-00791-00159224-00159454 because emergency management was there kwqiRou9k_Q-00792-00159455-00159759 physically to to hold the water for kwqiRou9k_Q-00793-00159760-00160063 some some positions and because of the kwqiRou9k_Q-00794-00160064-00160214 virtualness of this kwqiRou9k_Q-00795-00160215-00160559 it really meant that the roles kwqiRou9k_Q-00796-00160560-00160887 uh with specific responsibilities along kwqiRou9k_Q-00797-00160888-00161095 inventory a long resource request a long kwqiRou9k_Q-00798-00161096-00161263 situational awareness kwqiRou9k_Q-00799-00161264-00161487 those defined roles had to be done by kwqiRou9k_Q-00800-00161488-00161599 those people kwqiRou9k_Q-00801-00161600-00161783 and so while there was some pushback kwqiRou9k_Q-00802-00161784-00161902 i've never done this before kwqiRou9k_Q-00803-00161903-00162023 like i don't know why you never did kwqiRou9k_Q-00804-00162024-00162214 because you were supposed to be um kwqiRou9k_Q-00805-00162215-00162526 i think that was because maybe this is kwqiRou9k_Q-00806-00162527-00162719 just me and my history of emergency kwqiRou9k_Q-00807-00162720-00162839 management kwqiRou9k_Q-00808-00162840-00163102 we seem to sometimes want to do it all kwqiRou9k_Q-00809-00163103-00163335 and thereby enabling bad habits kwqiRou9k_Q-00810-00163336-00163631 and i think this really helped um kwqiRou9k_Q-00811-00163632-00163702 separate kwqiRou9k_Q-00812-00163703-00163990 uh the enabling to the empowering yep no kwqiRou9k_Q-00813-00163991-00164223 that makes sense that makes sense kwqiRou9k_Q-00814-00164224-00164543 were there um any things that uh kwqiRou9k_Q-00815-00164544-00164838 that you know you were able to do with kwqiRou9k_Q-00816-00164839-00165014 this system that you weren't able to do kwqiRou9k_Q-00817-00165015-00165254 with existing tools that you might use kwqiRou9k_Q-00818-00165255-00165454 within your eoc so as an example kwqiRou9k_Q-00819-00165455-00165775 could be if you're using um email to kwqiRou9k_Q-00820-00165776-00165902 communicate back and forth with kwqiRou9k_Q-00821-00165903-00166095 stakeholders or kwqiRou9k_Q-00822-00166096-00166359 um you know anything which is more sort kwqiRou9k_Q-00823-00166360-00166614 of traditional or kwqiRou9k_Q-00824-00166615-00166814 very common place in the eoc was this kwqiRou9k_Q-00825-00166815-00167031 able to sort of enhance that to any sort kwqiRou9k_Q-00826-00167032-00167175 of an extent that kwqiRou9k_Q-00827-00167176-00167438 you you would you wouldn't have expected kwqiRou9k_Q-00828-00167439-00167487 yeah kwqiRou9k_Q-00829-00167488-00167766 it's a great question so yeah we've got kwqiRou9k_Q-00830-00167767-00167951 a lot of different uh internet of c kwqiRou9k_Q-00831-00167952-00168135 you you have a wide demographic of kwqiRou9k_Q-00832-00168136-00168335 knowledge and capability and so kwqiRou9k_Q-00833-00168336-00168599 again what what so what i like about kwqiRou9k_Q-00834-00168600-00168807 monday.com is there's there's kwqiRou9k_Q-00835-00168808-00168983 fi sometimes there's five or more kwqiRou9k_Q-00836-00168984-00169151 different ways to do something kwqiRou9k_Q-00837-00169152-00169359 uh what i don't like about money.com is kwqiRou9k_Q-00838-00169360-00169502 sometimes there's five or more ways to kwqiRou9k_Q-00839-00169503-00169607 do something kwqiRou9k_Q-00840-00169608-00169919 um so so process knowing your process is kwqiRou9k_Q-00841-00169920-00170031 the most important thing before you use kwqiRou9k_Q-00842-00170032-00170111 any tool kwqiRou9k_Q-00843-00170112-00170271 i will say that all day long you need to kwqiRou9k_Q-00844-00170272-00170438 know what your process is kwqiRou9k_Q-00845-00170439-00170678 to a paper form before you try to kwqiRou9k_Q-00846-00170679-00170775 leverage the tool kwqiRou9k_Q-00847-00170776-00170935 a tool shouldn't be you should never kwqiRou9k_Q-00848-00170936-00171087 change a process to a tool kwqiRou9k_Q-00849-00171088-00171278 the tool should change to your process kwqiRou9k_Q-00850-00171279-00171438 so i'm a big believer in that and that's kwqiRou9k_Q-00851-00171439-00171614 what monday.com did for me kwqiRou9k_Q-00852-00171615-00171790 rather than other tools i've used and kwqiRou9k_Q-00853-00171791-00171926 had available to me kwqiRou9k_Q-00854-00171927-00172238 i was i was beholden to to make my kwqiRou9k_Q-00855-00172239-00172431 processes meet that tool kwqiRou9k_Q-00856-00172432-00172638 and that's not what i'm paying you money kwqiRou9k_Q-00857-00172639-00172735 for kwqiRou9k_Q-00858-00172736-00172887 you're supposed to meet my needs and so kwqiRou9k_Q-00859-00172888-00173054 that's one thing kwqiRou9k_Q-00860-00173055-00173343 the other thing is when i did run into kwqiRou9k_Q-00861-00173344-00173454 um kwqiRou9k_Q-00862-00173455-00173726 some roadblocks some some some barriers kwqiRou9k_Q-00863-00173727-00173878 to entry if you will kwqiRou9k_Q-00864-00173879-00174126 uh there's a secret tool with monday.com kwqiRou9k_Q-00865-00174127-00174311 that i learned along the way is that kwqiRou9k_Q-00866-00174312-00174551 any item could be updated through a kwqiRou9k_Q-00867-00174552-00174719 secret email like you didn't want to kwqiRou9k_Q-00868-00174720-00174902 abuse this feature but what i loved is kwqiRou9k_Q-00869-00174903-00175111 for those people who absolutely refused kwqiRou9k_Q-00870-00175112-00175247 i was like fine kwqiRou9k_Q-00871-00175248-00175526 uh just email like save this secret kwqiRou9k_Q-00872-00175527-00175711 little email and every time you do the kwqiRou9k_Q-00873-00175712-00175895 thing it will update where it needs to kwqiRou9k_Q-00874-00175896-00176031 be and you'll be able to see it and then kwqiRou9k_Q-00875-00176032-00176223 do the process accordingly kwqiRou9k_Q-00876-00176224-00176535 and that was an amazing feature it just kwqiRou9k_Q-00877-00176536-00176614 really helped kwqiRou9k_Q-00878-00176615-00176935 again reduce the barriers to entry and kwqiRou9k_Q-00879-00176936-00177159 what i had found is after people were kwqiRou9k_Q-00880-00177160-00177287 comfortable that i could meet them kwqiRou9k_Q-00881-00177288-00177407 halfway kwqiRou9k_Q-00882-00177408-00177559 they started leaning forward with just kwqiRou9k_Q-00883-00177560-00177719 accepting the new technology kwqiRou9k_Q-00884-00177720-00177966 and and uh changing their brainware a kwqiRou9k_Q-00885-00177967-00178151 little bit more to to be inclusive with kwqiRou9k_Q-00886-00178152-00178295 the software kwqiRou9k_Q-00887-00178296-00178663 that makes sense that makes sense i i kwqiRou9k_Q-00888-00178664-00178814 i know exactly what you're talking about kwqiRou9k_Q-00889-00178815-00179247 with um you know some some folks just kwqiRou9k_Q-00890-00179248-00179511 aren't able to quickly change to a new kwqiRou9k_Q-00891-00179512-00179559 system kwqiRou9k_Q-00892-00179560-00179766 especially in the middle of a crisis so kwqiRou9k_Q-00893-00179767-00179951 having that functionality with you know kwqiRou9k_Q-00894-00179952-00180087 like the secret email kwqiRou9k_Q-00895-00180088-00180287 or some way to connect you know sort of kwqiRou9k_Q-00896-00180288-00180407 a legacy kwqiRou9k_Q-00897-00180408-00180647 style system into your current system kwqiRou9k_Q-00898-00180648-00180838 without too much of a disruption kwqiRou9k_Q-00899-00180839-00181078 is an important thing to to consider as kwqiRou9k_Q-00900-00181079-00181263 you roll something like this out kwqiRou9k_Q-00901-00181264-00181478 yeah every every resource request had a kwqiRou9k_Q-00902-00181479-00181631 specific item number kwqiRou9k_Q-00903-00181632-00181854 and and you can create that item number kwqiRou9k_Q-00904-00181855-00182038 has a secret email address again like kwqiRou9k_Q-00905-00182039-00182183 monday.com doesn't want you to do kwqiRou9k_Q-00906-00182184-00182287 everything in email kwqiRou9k_Q-00907-00182288-00182511 and neither should you but i really kwqiRou9k_Q-00908-00182512-00182695 appreciate it again kwqiRou9k_Q-00909-00182696-00182926 they in their space of effort and kwqiRou9k_Q-00910-00182927-00183143 understanding with the the customer base kwqiRou9k_Q-00911-00183144-00183231 that they've had kwqiRou9k_Q-00912-00183232-00183423 they knew that they had to do something kwqiRou9k_Q-00913-00183424-00183551 on the back end kwqiRou9k_Q-00914-00183552-00183775 uh to support those those the learning kwqiRou9k_Q-00915-00183776-00183951 curve and i was just like man this is kwqiRou9k_Q-00916-00183952-00184031 amazing kwqiRou9k_Q-00917-00184032-00184326 it was just so powerful well that makes kwqiRou9k_Q-00918-00184327-00184431 sense kwqiRou9k_Q-00919-00184432-00184654 um were there any processes that were kwqiRou9k_Q-00920-00184655-00184838 sort of unique to covet that you had to kwqiRou9k_Q-00921-00184839-00185023 stand up in the middle of the incident kwqiRou9k_Q-00922-00185024-00185463 and if so um was it easy to kind of kwqiRou9k_Q-00923-00185464-00185726 pivot pretty quickly to to pull to roll kwqiRou9k_Q-00924-00185727-00185950 them out kwqiRou9k_Q-00925-00185951-00186214 yes uh so the topic tracker was the kwqiRou9k_Q-00926-00186215-00186271 biggest kwqiRou9k_Q-00927-00186272-00186414 the biggest one that we just created on kwqiRou9k_Q-00928-00186415-00186614 the fly i remember kwqiRou9k_Q-00929-00186615-00186814 so many of the phone calls so many of kwqiRou9k_Q-00930-00186815-00187047 the the team's conversations kwqiRou9k_Q-00931-00187048-00187359 it was just it was a it was like nailing kwqiRou9k_Q-00932-00187360-00187478 jail to a tree kwqiRou9k_Q-00933-00187479-00187726 like how do we take a very important kwqiRou9k_Q-00934-00187727-00187854 thing these kwqiRou9k_Q-00935-00187855-00188063 dynamic and free-flowing conversations kwqiRou9k_Q-00936-00188064-00188183 and how do we kwqiRou9k_Q-00937-00188184-00188447 add some sort of like next step or kwqiRou9k_Q-00938-00188448-00188607 project management to it kwqiRou9k_Q-00939-00188608-00188847 uh that's where we were brainstorming in kwqiRou9k_Q-00940-00188848-00188911 the office kwqiRou9k_Q-00941-00188912-00189207 and finally it was just like let's go to kwqiRou9k_Q-00942-00189208-00189350 old school discussion thread type kwqiRou9k_Q-00943-00189351-00189399 thoughts kwqiRou9k_Q-00944-00189400-00189590 you know like let's we've got this great kwqiRou9k_Q-00945-00189591-00189726 chat feature we can have zoom kwqiRou9k_Q-00946-00189727-00189895 conversations all day long but if we kwqiRou9k_Q-00947-00189896-00189935 can't kwqiRou9k_Q-00948-00189936-00190190 track our thoughts if we can't have an kwqiRou9k_Q-00949-00190191-00190350 extended conversation kwqiRou9k_Q-00950-00190351-00190478 again these conversations would kwqiRou9k_Q-00951-00190479-00190663 sometimes go for weeks kwqiRou9k_Q-00952-00190664-00190911 because of the ever-changing momentum or kwqiRou9k_Q-00953-00190912-00191095 policy or process kwqiRou9k_Q-00954-00191096-00191399 uh you know searching your email could kwqiRou9k_Q-00955-00191400-00191495 only go so far kwqiRou9k_Q-00956-00191496-00191695 or scrolling down on teams could only kwqiRou9k_Q-00957-00191696-00191895 get you so much kwqiRou9k_Q-00958-00191896-00192087 so that was a big thing it's creating a kwqiRou9k_Q-00959-00192088-00192238 topic tracker on the fly was very kwqiRou9k_Q-00960-00192239-00192335 powerful kwqiRou9k_Q-00961-00192336-00192631 and then again we didn't know how kwqiRou9k_Q-00962-00192632-00192687 powerful kwqiRou9k_Q-00963-00192688-00192943 an open resource request form you know kwqiRou9k_Q-00964-00192944-00193207 flipping a 213 resource request type of kwqiRou9k_Q-00965-00193208-00193519 a form publicly was such a big deal kwqiRou9k_Q-00966-00193520-00193838 to us and then uh the other thinking kwqiRou9k_Q-00967-00193839-00193999 about this out loud kwqiRou9k_Q-00968-00194000-00194199 the other thing that we had to do that kwqiRou9k_Q-00969-00194200-00194335 we didn't realize was kwqiRou9k_Q-00970-00194336-00194623 was because of the extending extending kwqiRou9k_Q-00971-00194624-00194711 the length of kwqiRou9k_Q-00972-00194712-00195054 covin um kwqiRou9k_Q-00973-00195055-00195302 we didn't want to become the de facto kwqiRou9k_Q-00974-00195303-00195423 do-walls kwqiRou9k_Q-00975-00195424-00195678 and so what money.com allowed us to do kwqiRou9k_Q-00976-00195679-00195799 is is kwqiRou9k_Q-00977-00195800-00196007 give somebody else a tool to do kwqiRou9k_Q-00978-00196008-00196150 something dynamically on the same kwqiRou9k_Q-00979-00196151-00196207 platform kwqiRou9k_Q-00980-00196208-00196447 as us but maybe had a different purpose kwqiRou9k_Q-00981-00196448-00196631 uh for for instance we had a big call kwqiRou9k_Q-00982-00196632-00196678 center kwqiRou9k_Q-00983-00196679-00196919 so we had people uh self-reporting kwqiRou9k_Q-00984-00196920-00197111 coveted violations or restaurant kwqiRou9k_Q-00985-00197112-00197238 information or all these different kwqiRou9k_Q-00986-00197239-00197375 things and so kwqiRou9k_Q-00987-00197376-00197543 uh while that traditionally like oh kwqiRou9k_Q-00988-00197544-00197711 emergency management let them handle it kwqiRou9k_Q-00989-00197712-00198038 i was able to say well ait can you kwqiRou9k_Q-00990-00198039-00198183 create for the public information kwqiRou9k_Q-00991-00198184-00198454 officer a way for those volunteer kwqiRou9k_Q-00992-00198455-00198631 call takers to just have a form for kwqiRou9k_Q-00993-00198632-00198863 themselves and track that on a different kwqiRou9k_Q-00994-00198864-00199047 workspace independent of mine kwqiRou9k_Q-00995-00199048-00199271 and but it still could be tied in for kwqiRou9k_Q-00996-00199272-00199383 certain needs kwqiRou9k_Q-00997-00199384-00199519 right i could be tagged hey this kwqiRou9k_Q-00998-00199520-00199654 emergency management question hey this kwqiRou9k_Q-00999-00199655-00199735 is a kwqiRou9k_Q-01000-00199736-00200038 a code enforcement question uh again for kwqiRou9k_Q-01001-00200039-00200214 for separating continuity versus kwqiRou9k_Q-01002-00200215-00200471 emergency operations very powerful we kwqiRou9k_Q-01003-00200472-00200614 have to do that on the fly kwqiRou9k_Q-01004-00200615-00200926 and then uh citizens demanded kwqiRou9k_Q-01005-00200927-00201014 information kwqiRou9k_Q-01006-00201015-00201214 they wanted to know what was going on kwqiRou9k_Q-01007-00201215-00201414 they wanted to have a way to do it kwqiRou9k_Q-01008-00201415-00201631 and what money.com allowed us to again kwqiRou9k_Q-01009-00201632-00201799 online open forums kwqiRou9k_Q-01010-00201800-00202143 uh to the public into a centralized hub kwqiRou9k_Q-01011-00202144-00202407 of project management and then it was kwqiRou9k_Q-01012-00202408-00202607 able to flip that information visually kwqiRou9k_Q-01013-00202608-00202647 on kwqiRou9k_Q-01014-00202648-00202878 dashboards available to the public kwqiRou9k_Q-01015-00202879-00203047 almost on the fly i mean not almost kwqiRou9k_Q-01016-00203048-00203263 on the fly they were able to put all the kwqiRou9k_Q-01017-00203264-00203447 for every every single phone call we got kwqiRou9k_Q-01018-00203448-00203607 that was due in report violations they kwqiRou9k_Q-01019-00203608-00203807 were able to flip it into an iframe kwqiRou9k_Q-01020-00203808-00203895 viewable kwqiRou9k_Q-01021-00203896-00204190 uh web public postable format at an kwqiRou9k_Q-01022-00204191-00204511 instance if you go to kwqiRou9k_Q-01023-00204512-00204623 u alachocounty.us right now or google kwqiRou9k_Q-01024-00204624-00204766 also account you can see some of the kwqiRou9k_Q-01025-00204767-00204862 dashboards kwqiRou9k_Q-01026-00204863-00205151 that are powered by monday um we were kwqiRou9k_Q-01027-00205152-00205294 able to give hospitals their own board kwqiRou9k_Q-01028-00205296-00205414 so they could do the self-reporting of kwqiRou9k_Q-01029-00205415-00205582 their dashboard number so we didn't have kwqiRou9k_Q-01030-00205583-00205742 to do that kwqiRou9k_Q-01031-00205744-00205951 and then i can flip that number publicly kwqiRou9k_Q-01032-00205952-00206103 through an iframe interface i think kwqiRou9k_Q-01033-00206104-00206214 that's what it's called kwqiRou9k_Q-01034-00206215-00206486 um it was just really again blew my mind kwqiRou9k_Q-01035-00206487-00206679 what we were able to do kwqiRou9k_Q-01036-00206680-00206998 on the backbone of monday wow kwqiRou9k_Q-01037-00207000-00207279 yeah it's i can't i mean i'm not the kwqiRou9k_Q-01038-00207280-00207375 smart one kwqiRou9k_Q-01039-00207376-00207694 again i had a very strong i.t contact uh kwqiRou9k_Q-01040-00207696-00207846 he should be speaking because she was kwqiRou9k_Q-01041-00207848-00208062 the one that would take my ideas and kwqiRou9k_Q-01042-00208063-00208238 and really just make them happen kwqiRou9k_Q-01043-00208239-00208382 literally within seconds kwqiRou9k_Q-01044-00208383-00208694 sometimes wow now kwqiRou9k_Q-01045-00208696-00208975 uh you've talked about kind of all the kwqiRou9k_Q-01046-00208976-00209103 things that you were able to build with kwqiRou9k_Q-01047-00209104-00209223 it you've talked about the things you kwqiRou9k_Q-01048-00209223-00209255 built kwqiRou9k_Q-01049-00209256-00209534 during covid with it um were there any kwqiRou9k_Q-01050-00209535-00209590 things kwqiRou9k_Q-01051-00209591-00209919 that you wish it had any functionality kwqiRou9k_Q-01052-00209919-00209967 that it kwqiRou9k_Q-01053-00209967-00210246 that it didn't have that you think is an kwqiRou9k_Q-01054-00210248-00210415 opportunity in the future kwqiRou9k_Q-01055-00210416-00210639 uh to kind of integrate or or build that kwqiRou9k_Q-01056-00210640-00210871 into the into the tool kwqiRou9k_Q-01057-00210871-00211079 yeah i i mean this is probably really kwqiRou9k_Q-01058-00211080-00211342 weedy and if anyone from monday.com is kwqiRou9k_Q-01059-00211344-00211719 watching the tool is powerful sorry uh kwqiRou9k_Q-01060-00211719-00212031 i mean it's so so few kwqiRou9k_Q-01061-00212032-00212358 things um so the biggest thing is like kwqiRou9k_Q-01062-00212359-00212471 there's this thing called a guest kwqiRou9k_Q-01063-00212471-00212575 license kwqiRou9k_Q-01064-00212576-00212910 uh you can actually use if i have a user kwqiRou9k_Q-01065-00212911-00213134 an enterprise account i can give as many kwqiRou9k_Q-01066-00213135-00213223 free kwqiRou9k_Q-01067-00213223-00213463 guest licenses as i want unlimited as kwqiRou9k_Q-01068-00213464-00213631 long as they have a different kwqiRou9k_Q-01069-00213632-00213934 email url than i'm on and uh very kwqiRou9k_Q-01070-00213935-00213998 powerful kwqiRou9k_Q-01071-00214000-00214255 the problem with that is i'm very role kwqiRou9k_Q-01072-00214256-00214398 focused as an eoc a good kwqiRou9k_Q-01073-00214400-00214542 emergency manager is it's not about the kwqiRou9k_Q-01074-00214544-00214767 person personalities about the process kwqiRou9k_Q-01075-00214767-00214991 yeah so within a user license i can kwqiRou9k_Q-01076-00214992-00215142 assign a team kwqiRou9k_Q-01077-00215144-00215431 so if i assign a um you know public kwqiRou9k_Q-01078-00215432-00215519 works team kwqiRou9k_Q-01079-00215519-00215775 to something anyone within that team kwqiRou9k_Q-01080-00215776-00215951 will see and have access to all of the kwqiRou9k_Q-01081-00215952-00216303 boards and interfaces within that team kwqiRou9k_Q-01082-00216304-00216582 catches a guest or viewer license can't kwqiRou9k_Q-01083-00216583-00216727 be part of a team kwqiRou9k_Q-01084-00216728-00217031 so i would have to then assign a guest kwqiRou9k_Q-01085-00217032-00217287 license to each individual board to each kwqiRou9k_Q-01086-00217288-00217510 individual task and so it kwqiRou9k_Q-01087-00217511-00217823 that's kind of uh kind of cumbersome kwqiRou9k_Q-01088-00217823-00218110 from a process management but i get it kwqiRou9k_Q-01089-00218111-00218287 they're giving me free licenses kwqiRou9k_Q-01090-00218288-00218582 uh unlimited viewers and guests so if kwqiRou9k_Q-01091-00218583-00218831 that's my problem to deal with i accept kwqiRou9k_Q-01092-00218832-00218894 because the kwqiRou9k_Q-01093-00218896-00219119 the inverse of not having unlimited free kwqiRou9k_Q-01094-00219119-00219271 would have been very limited kwqiRou9k_Q-01095-00219271-00219567 limiting to my job and i'll take that kwqiRou9k_Q-01096-00219567-00219663 trade off kwqiRou9k_Q-01097-00219664-00220055 yeah and and i could say the same thing kwqiRou9k_Q-01098-00220056-00220406 within our operations it was the same kwqiRou9k_Q-01099-00220407-00220598 situation most of these tools have some kwqiRou9k_Q-01100-00220600-00220719 sort of a kwqiRou9k_Q-01101-00220719-00220998 like a guest or a viewer license uh that kwqiRou9k_Q-01102-00221000-00221175 that can be used kwqiRou9k_Q-01103-00221176-00221382 and i mean that was sort of the only kwqiRou9k_Q-01104-00221383-00221534 situation that we could kwqiRou9k_Q-01105-00221535-00221703 we could use for those people who were kwqiRou9k_Q-01106-00221704-00221846 outside of the city because it would kwqiRou9k_Q-01107-00221848-00222063 just be impossible for us to fund kwqiRou9k_Q-01108-00222064-00222263 accounts for especially with all the kwqiRou9k_Q-01109-00222264-00222391 different organizations that were kwqiRou9k_Q-01110-00222392-00222542 involved in this response kwqiRou9k_Q-01111-00222544-00222871 it just it's impossible for us to say oh kwqiRou9k_Q-01112-00222871-00222919 yeah kwqiRou9k_Q-01113-00222919-00223127 we'll we'll give all of you office 365 kwqiRou9k_Q-01114-00223128-00223271 accounts and you know that's kwqiRou9k_Q-01115-00223271-00223623 just impossible so that makes sense um kwqiRou9k_Q-01116-00223623-00223775 this one kind of takes it away a little kwqiRou9k_Q-01117-00223776-00223958 bit from the the technology kwqiRou9k_Q-01118-00223959-00224263 and more towards sort of your team but kwqiRou9k_Q-01119-00224264-00224646 uh were there any challenges in managing kwqiRou9k_Q-01120-00224648-00224910 uh your whether it be your emergency kwqiRou9k_Q-01121-00224911-00224998 management team kwqiRou9k_Q-01122-00225000-00225239 or your stakeholders within the county kwqiRou9k_Q-01123-00225240-00225375 or even those kwqiRou9k_Q-01124-00225376-00225519 external stakeholders who might have kwqiRou9k_Q-01125-00225519-00225671 typically been involved in a physical kwqiRou9k_Q-01126-00225671-00225806 eoc kwqiRou9k_Q-01127-00225807-00226031 um were there any big things that you kwqiRou9k_Q-01128-00226032-00226215 had to sort of adapt and overcome in kwqiRou9k_Q-01129-00226216-00226279 order to kwqiRou9k_Q-01130-00226280-00226710 to work in this virtual environment kwqiRou9k_Q-01131-00226711-00226879 you know i use the term brainware to kwqiRou9k_Q-01132-00226880-00227046 quote colin powell when he when he took kwqiRou9k_Q-01133-00227048-00227206 over the state department you know kwqiRou9k_Q-01134-00227207-00227455 people even if they're the wrong kwqiRou9k_Q-01135-00227456-00227639 processes and they acknowledge it kwqiRou9k_Q-01136-00227640-00227919 they are beholden to those things until kwqiRou9k_Q-01137-00227919-00228031 the learning curve kwqiRou9k_Q-01138-00228032-00228358 and process can happen for brainware and kwqiRou9k_Q-01139-00228359-00228798 and that was tough i i had um again kwqiRou9k_Q-01140-00228800-00229006 my joke and my staff say this a lot uh kwqiRou9k_Q-01141-00229007-00229151 like one of my favorite sayings if you kwqiRou9k_Q-01142-00229152-00229255 could just get in my head this would be kwqiRou9k_Q-01143-00229256-00229375 a lot easier kwqiRou9k_Q-01144-00229376-00229615 um because it sometimes it's hard to kwqiRou9k_Q-01145-00229616-00229806 explain what i see already kwqiRou9k_Q-01146-00229807-00230046 and then and then help people get to kwqiRou9k_Q-01147-00230048-00230167 that point kwqiRou9k_Q-01148-00230167-00230367 so so there's no at some point there's kwqiRou9k_Q-01149-00230367-00230542 no replacement for kwqiRou9k_Q-01150-00230544-00230694 some sort of personal interaction and kwqiRou9k_Q-01151-00230696-00230846 that's where we saw the zoom or the kwqiRou9k_Q-01152-00230848-00231015 teams video conference because you kwqiRou9k_Q-01153-00231016-00231175 really do need the nuance of kwqiRou9k_Q-01154-00231176-00231382 conversation tone and inflection kwqiRou9k_Q-01155-00231383-00231591 to come across and that doesn't come kwqiRou9k_Q-01156-00231592-00231894 across in a in the complete virtual kwqiRou9k_Q-01157-00231896-00232191 uh eoc management tool or project kwqiRou9k_Q-01158-00232192-00232271 management tool kwqiRou9k_Q-01159-00232271-00232471 tone and inflection i mean the good news kwqiRou9k_Q-01160-00232471-00232575 one of the things i kwqiRou9k_Q-01161-00232576-00232846 we would do uh like in our task kwqiRou9k_Q-01162-00232848-00233031 management there's again there's llamas kwqiRou9k_Q-01163-00233032-00233215 there's memes there's gifts that you can kwqiRou9k_Q-01164-00233216-00233375 have there's emojis and all those things kwqiRou9k_Q-01165-00233376-00233494 i think that's a good kwqiRou9k_Q-01166-00233496-00233615 thing especially in a high-stressed kwqiRou9k_Q-01167-00233616-00233734 environment of an eoc and that's kwqiRou9k_Q-01168-00233735-00233942 something monday.com already have built kwqiRou9k_Q-01169-00233944-00234182 so that helped with some of those tone kwqiRou9k_Q-01170-00234183-00234327 conversations kwqiRou9k_Q-01171-00234328-00234558 but it was really just again letting kwqiRou9k_Q-01172-00234559-00234727 people the hardest thing i had was not kwqiRou9k_Q-01173-00234728-00234831 the tool kwqiRou9k_Q-01174-00234832-00235079 so much as it was the process and kwqiRou9k_Q-01175-00235080-00235303 getting people to own and know kwqiRou9k_Q-01176-00235304-00235582 the complete process and then the tool kwqiRou9k_Q-01177-00235583-00235806 just laid it made it easier kwqiRou9k_Q-01178-00235807-00236142 i did do after the 27-week activation um kwqiRou9k_Q-01179-00236144-00236406 we did do a survey to the team and i kwqiRou9k_Q-01180-00236407-00236551 will say that as money.com is not a kwqiRou9k_Q-01181-00236552-00236734 survey tool so using it as a survey like kwqiRou9k_Q-01182-00236735-00236910 it again knows its rules kwqiRou9k_Q-01183-00236911-00237167 um but we did do a survey of the kwqiRou9k_Q-01184-00237167-00237327 complete eoc and anyone that actually kwqiRou9k_Q-01185-00237328-00237503 gave us any input or an email that was kwqiRou9k_Q-01186-00237504-00237694 associated to money.com kwqiRou9k_Q-01187-00237696-00237927 and the biggest thing that that we kwqiRou9k_Q-01188-00237928-00238071 received as far as kwqiRou9k_Q-01189-00238071-00238351 uh you know other than a good job kudos kwqiRou9k_Q-01190-00238352-00238551 which were definitely appreciated kwqiRou9k_Q-01191-00238552-00238767 the resounding theme was the best thing kwqiRou9k_Q-01192-00238767-00238975 that we did was go to monday.com and i kwqiRou9k_Q-01193-00238976-00239015 was kwqiRou9k_Q-01194-00239016-00239223 again my assistant director she had kwqiRou9k_Q-01195-00239223-00239471 built out the previous system herself in kwqiRou9k_Q-01196-00239471-00239631 a previous lifetime she had kwqiRou9k_Q-01197-00239632-00239910 she was beholden to the old technology kwqiRou9k_Q-01198-00239911-00239951 and kwqiRou9k_Q-01199-00239952-00240279 it was very um she had a lot of personal kwqiRou9k_Q-01200-00240280-00240471 and professional investment in that tool kwqiRou9k_Q-01201-00240471-00240623 to succeed and she was kwqiRou9k_Q-01202-00240623-00240815 not happy with that but then at the end kwqiRou9k_Q-01203-00240816-00240998 even she said i'm so glad we did this kwqiRou9k_Q-01204-00241000-00241151 this was the best investment of time and kwqiRou9k_Q-01205-00241152-00241319 talent that we could have done and that kwqiRou9k_Q-01206-00241319-00241519 was only reinforced by all of the other kwqiRou9k_Q-01207-00241519-00241742 people that i forced on to to embrace kwqiRou9k_Q-01208-00241744-00241894 this tool they were all like kwqiRou9k_Q-01209-00241896-00242110 we hated it at first it was hard to kwqiRou9k_Q-01210-00242111-00242230 learn kwqiRou9k_Q-01211-00242231-00242487 but we're glad we did it and don't take kwqiRou9k_Q-01212-00242488-00242639 it away kwqiRou9k_Q-01213-00242640-00242767 that's great because now everybody's kwqiRou9k_Q-01214-00242767-00242910 using it for their own like their own kwqiRou9k_Q-01215-00242911-00243071 project management they what one the one kwqiRou9k_Q-01216-00243071-00243142 thing that we kwqiRou9k_Q-01217-00243144-00243463 that we saw that happened and again i kwqiRou9k_Q-01218-00243464-00243534 keep close kwqiRou9k_Q-01219-00243535-00243855 uh communications with my last kwqiRou9k_Q-01220-00243856-00244063 valachua county uh because a lot of good kwqiRou9k_Q-01221-00244064-00244167 professional friends and kwqiRou9k_Q-01222-00244167-00244351 relationships were built there and the kwqiRou9k_Q-01223-00244352-00244487 one thing that that kwqiRou9k_Q-01224-00244488-00244703 i love about money.com is because it's kwqiRou9k_Q-01225-00244704-00244910 not an em niche product kwqiRou9k_Q-01226-00244911-00245191 um it was able to scale out like it's kwqiRou9k_Q-01227-00245192-00245375 scaled out into many other departments kwqiRou9k_Q-01228-00245376-00245542 that had never used the tool like oh i kwqiRou9k_Q-01229-00245544-00245591 can kwqiRou9k_Q-01230-00245592-00245815 use this for myself day to day and i kwqiRou9k_Q-01231-00245816-00245934 think that's the truest power of an kwqiRou9k_Q-01232-00245935-00246079 emergency management platform is kwqiRou9k_Q-01233-00246080-00246310 something that that you can keep going kwqiRou9k_Q-01234-00246311-00246687 and flip so so there's no blip kwqiRou9k_Q-01235-00246688-00247015 in in emergency operations from regular kwqiRou9k_Q-01236-00247016-00247127 operations kwqiRou9k_Q-01237-00247128-00247279 that's a very i mean that's that's been kwqiRou9k_Q-01238-00247280-00247567 the uh the unicorn for so long in our kwqiRou9k_Q-01239-00247567-00247615 space kwqiRou9k_Q-01240-00247616-00247727 is something that could be used every kwqiRou9k_Q-01241-00247728-00247942 day that's right now kwqiRou9k_Q-01242-00247944-00248303 and we saw the same thing um with slack kwqiRou9k_Q-01243-00248304-00248623 uh in in our operation uh you know kwqiRou9k_Q-01244-00248623-00248775 that was something that nobody had ever kwqiRou9k_Q-01245-00248776-00248982 used before and then certainly kwqiRou9k_Q-01246-00248983-00249167 afterwards people were starting to kwqiRou9k_Q-01247-00249167-00249430 consider okay how do we use this for our kwqiRou9k_Q-01248-00249431-00249630 normal operations within the city so kwqiRou9k_Q-01249-00249631-00249782 yeah definitely um kwqiRou9k_Q-01250-00249783-00250046 similar situation there yeah and i'll kwqiRou9k_Q-01251-00250048-00250239 say monday works with slack again like kwqiRou9k_Q-01252-00250240-00250271 they kwqiRou9k_Q-01253-00250271-00250567 they're they're their philosophy i guess kwqiRou9k_Q-01254-00250567-00250671 you know whatever kwqiRou9k_Q-01255-00250671-00250815 millennial philosophy whatever it is but kwqiRou9k_Q-01256-00250816-00251015 to work with all not only kwqiRou9k_Q-01257-00251016-00251246 is such a cool concept for a software kwqiRou9k_Q-01258-00251248-00251358 it's like even they're kwqiRou9k_Q-01259-00251359-00251527 quote what would be their competitors kwqiRou9k_Q-01260-00251528-00251719 they're open have integrations with and kwqiRou9k_Q-01261-00251719-00251815 they want to make sure kwqiRou9k_Q-01262-00251816-00251951 that's how your team works well we're kwqiRou9k_Q-01263-00251952-00252110 going to work with your team with us and kwqiRou9k_Q-01264-00252111-00252319 that's again that's the emergency kwqiRou9k_Q-01265-00252319-00252567 management philosophy yeah that's that's kwqiRou9k_Q-01266-00252567-00252742 a pretty interesting perspective too kwqiRou9k_Q-01267-00252744-00252798 because kwqiRou9k_Q-01268-00252800-00253055 it really we have to be able to do that kwqiRou9k_Q-01269-00253056-00253198 because we're working with so many kwqiRou9k_Q-01270-00253200-00253327 different disciplines kwqiRou9k_Q-01271-00253328-00253494 so many different levels of government kwqiRou9k_Q-01272-00253496-00253694 and then you know the people outside of kwqiRou9k_Q-01273-00253696-00253758 government kwqiRou9k_Q-01274-00253759-00254030 i mean it's just um it's you never know kwqiRou9k_Q-01275-00254031-00254175 what you're going to come across kwqiRou9k_Q-01276-00254176-00254398 in your field so having the ability to kwqiRou9k_Q-01277-00254400-00254510 connect and kwqiRou9k_Q-01278-00254511-00254687 adapt to those different systems is kwqiRou9k_Q-01279-00254688-00254846 important kwqiRou9k_Q-01280-00254848-00255151 um so kind of stepping away from kwqiRou9k_Q-01281-00255152-00255463 um from from this specific case kwqiRou9k_Q-01282-00255464-00255630 um i know you know you've got some kwqiRou9k_Q-01283-00255631-00255910 experience uh at municipal kwqiRou9k_Q-01284-00255911-00256246 private sector higher education tribal kwqiRou9k_Q-01285-00256248-00256446 counties you know it sounds like you've kwqiRou9k_Q-01286-00256448-00256615 been all over the country as well so kwqiRou9k_Q-01287-00256616-00256798 you've been a little bit everywhere kwqiRou9k_Q-01288-00256800-00257063 um you know from your perspective seeing kwqiRou9k_Q-01289-00257064-00257142 this kwqiRou9k_Q-01290-00257144-00257406 transition towards virtual uh what do kwqiRou9k_Q-01291-00257407-00257542 you think the virtual what do you think kwqiRou9k_Q-01292-00257544-00257758 the virtual eoc the future looks like kwqiRou9k_Q-01293-00257759-00257823 and kwqiRou9k_Q-01294-00257823-00258039 um you know do you see an opportunity kwqiRou9k_Q-01295-00258040-00258142 for tools like kwqiRou9k_Q-01296-00258144-00258406 in your case monday or other tools like kwqiRou9k_Q-01297-00258407-00258567 slack or office 365 kwqiRou9k_Q-01298-00258567-00258719 what do you think role that they play in kwqiRou9k_Q-01299-00258719-00258903 emergency management in the future kwqiRou9k_Q-01300-00258904-00259303 yeah all of it it all works right it all kwqiRou9k_Q-01301-00259304-00259646 if if we incorporate lessons learned and kwqiRou9k_Q-01302-00259648-00259903 best practices nationally as they are kwqiRou9k_Q-01303-00259904-00260271 um you know uh kwqiRou9k_Q-01304-00260271-00260439 you know put into canon through the kwqiRou9k_Q-01305-00260440-00260606 national incident management system if kwqiRou9k_Q-01306-00260607-00260710 you will kwqiRou9k_Q-01307-00260711-00261046 those processes are are are true kwqiRou9k_Q-01308-00261048-00261255 and just to to have the tools now to kwqiRou9k_Q-01309-00261256-00261439 support those virtually kwqiRou9k_Q-01310-00261440-00261591 is again something i've been waiting for kwqiRou9k_Q-01311-00261592-00261823 a very long time i've been hopeful for kwqiRou9k_Q-01312-00261823-00261887 this kwqiRou9k_Q-01313-00261888-00262215 again since early on in my career um kwqiRou9k_Q-01314-00262216-00262479 so so yeah there's a place for it and kwqiRou9k_Q-01315-00262480-00262671 again i don't think it's it's one or kwqiRou9k_Q-01316-00262672-00262743 another kwqiRou9k_Q-01317-00262744-00263006 it's what fits your process and i think kwqiRou9k_Q-01318-00263007-00263287 to come to this point from going from kwqiRou9k_Q-01319-00263288-00263479 uh when you couldn't even share a word kwqiRou9k_Q-01320-00263480-00263751 document and collaborate you know like kwqiRou9k_Q-01321-00263752-00263951 from the old school discussion threads kwqiRou9k_Q-01322-00263952-00264151 and and you know not even be able to kwqiRou9k_Q-01323-00264152-00264303 you know i i would get called up to the kwqiRou9k_Q-01324-00264304-00264471 third floor for having a twitter account kwqiRou9k_Q-01325-00264472-00264623 for an official emergency management kwqiRou9k_Q-01326-00264624-00264767 office to now like kwqiRou9k_Q-01327-00264768-00265047 they're basically like websites it's so kwqiRou9k_Q-01328-00265048-00265223 cool uh to have lived in kwqiRou9k_Q-01329-00265224-00265375 my short career through some of these kwqiRou9k_Q-01330-00265376-00265534 major changes and i don't think it's kwqiRou9k_Q-01331-00265535-00265639 going anywhere kwqiRou9k_Q-01332-00265640-00265903 um you know full disclosure even in my kwqiRou9k_Q-01333-00265904-00266039 new role jeffco kwqiRou9k_Q-01334-00266040-00266303 you know at jeffco we have monday.com kwqiRou9k_Q-01335-00266304-00266471 and guess what we just have a snowstorm kwqiRou9k_Q-01336-00266472-00266630 come through here and while it's not kwqiRou9k_Q-01337-00266631-00266839 completely built out to what i want kwqiRou9k_Q-01338-00266840-00267103 i had my brand new staff of five months kwqiRou9k_Q-01339-00267104-00267287 flip monday.com from our project kwqiRou9k_Q-01340-00267288-00267447 management over the last week kwqiRou9k_Q-01341-00267448-00267727 we we fine-tuned some of our processes kwqiRou9k_Q-01342-00267728-00267975 and we started internally testing kwqiRou9k_Q-01343-00267976-00268151 using the snowstorm that impacted the kwqiRou9k_Q-01344-00268152-00268343 denver metro area kwqiRou9k_Q-01345-00268344-00268551 to validate and vet our processes for kwqiRou9k_Q-01346-00268552-00268751 jefferson county using monday.com and my kwqiRou9k_Q-01347-00268752-00268806 staff kwqiRou9k_Q-01348-00268807-00268958 like their light bulbs are going off oh kwqiRou9k_Q-01349-00268959-00269143 this is this is what you've been railing kwqiRou9k_Q-01350-00269144-00269327 about for the past five months oh this kwqiRou9k_Q-01351-00269328-00269430 is great kwqiRou9k_Q-01352-00269431-00269743 so uh and again we i didn't have so kwqiRou9k_Q-01353-00269744-00269991 and again a full full uh transparency at kwqiRou9k_Q-01354-00269992-00270110 alachua county kwqiRou9k_Q-01355-00270111-00270415 we microsoft 365 was a very limited kwqiRou9k_Q-01356-00270416-00270503 rollout kwqiRou9k_Q-01357-00270504-00270799 only me and my team of five had kwqiRou9k_Q-01358-00270800-00271079 microsoft 365. the rest of the county kwqiRou9k_Q-01359-00271080-00271495 was still on sharepoint 2016 so um kwqiRou9k_Q-01360-00271496-00271887 my eoc team here actually has ms 365 so kwqiRou9k_Q-01361-00271888-00271991 now i'm trying to kwqiRou9k_Q-01362-00271992-00272343 to learn how to better use ms 365 kwqiRou9k_Q-01363-00272344-00272510 and make sure we incorporate that monday kwqiRou9k_Q-01364-00272511-00272743 just released to teams integration kwqiRou9k_Q-01365-00272744-00272967 uh like a week or two ago so there's kwqiRou9k_Q-01366-00272968-00273127 there's all these cool new kwqiRou9k_Q-01367-00273128-00273399 ways to do things that i'm really kwqiRou9k_Q-01368-00273400-00273575 excited about the future because kwqiRou9k_Q-01369-00273576-00273751 again i work private sector as one of my kwqiRou9k_Q-01370-00273752-00273927 things and i think it's we're finally to kwqiRou9k_Q-01371-00273928-00274095 a place in government where we kwqiRou9k_Q-01372-00274096-00274263 can be okay with letting our team work kwqiRou9k_Q-01373-00274264-00274519 remotely that's something that i had put kwqiRou9k_Q-01374-00274520-00274679 in place with my last team and i said kwqiRou9k_Q-01375-00274680-00274830 if i can't give you a raise because of kwqiRou9k_Q-01376-00274831-00274999 titan constricted budgets kwqiRou9k_Q-01377-00275000-00275295 what i can do is give you flexibility uh kwqiRou9k_Q-01378-00275296-00275399 i can give you kwqiRou9k_Q-01379-00275400-00275519 uh you want to go to the beach and work kwqiRou9k_Q-01380-00275520-00275687 remotely as long i can see you work kwqiRou9k_Q-01381-00275688-00275887 remotely i can see the real-time updates kwqiRou9k_Q-01382-00275888-00276039 i can we can both collaborate on a kwqiRou9k_Q-01383-00276040-00276199 document in real time at the same time kwqiRou9k_Q-01384-00276200-00276334 no matter where we are kwqiRou9k_Q-01385-00276335-00276575 um i think there's a power to that as kwqiRou9k_Q-01386-00276576-00276775 far as work-life balance and i'm really kwqiRou9k_Q-01387-00276776-00276927 excited about that kwqiRou9k_Q-01388-00276928-00277151 finally happening in government yeah kwqiRou9k_Q-01389-00277152-00277239 well it's kwqiRou9k_Q-01390-00277240-00277495 it's been a long time coming and kwqiRou9k_Q-01391-00277496-00277582 hopefully kwqiRou9k_Q-01392-00277583-00277847 hopefully we see um you know that that kwqiRou9k_Q-01393-00277848-00278055 transition fully you know i think it kwqiRou9k_Q-01394-00278056-00278279 really should become institutionalized kwqiRou9k_Q-01395-00278280-00278391 everything's sort of been kwqiRou9k_Q-01396-00278392-00278663 on this sort of temporary you know we'll kwqiRou9k_Q-01397-00278664-00278855 do it while covets happening but i think kwqiRou9k_Q-01398-00278856-00279039 people start recognizing kwqiRou9k_Q-01399-00279040-00279391 uh how you can really work together kwqiRou9k_Q-01400-00279392-00279599 collaboratively both within your team kwqiRou9k_Q-01401-00279600-00279743 outside of your team kwqiRou9k_Q-01402-00279744-00280006 uh and all across your uh you know your kwqiRou9k_Q-01403-00280007-00280119 stakeholders that are involved in the kwqiRou9k_Q-01404-00280120-00280319 response so absolutely kwqiRou9k_Q-01405-00280320-00280606 um so you know that kind of closes out kwqiRou9k_Q-01406-00280607-00280719 my questions i don't know if there's kwqiRou9k_Q-01407-00280720-00280847 anything else you you think kwqiRou9k_Q-01408-00280848-00281119 would be helpful for um for folks who kwqiRou9k_Q-01409-00281120-00281247 are watching to kwqiRou9k_Q-01410-00281248-00281423 to know or how they can get in touch kwqiRou9k_Q-01411-00281424-00281551 with you if they have any questions kwqiRou9k_Q-01412-00281552-00281703 about you know what you're doing or what kwqiRou9k_Q-01413-00281704-00281871 you're working on kwqiRou9k_Q-01414-00281872-00282215 sure i um you can find me on linkedin kwqiRou9k_Q-01415-00282216-00282319 that's probably the easiest kwqiRou9k_Q-01416-00282320-00282567 best way uh for any conversations again kwqiRou9k_Q-01417-00282568-00282679 you could probably see kwqiRou9k_Q-01418-00282680-00282895 uh i am passionate about the profession kwqiRou9k_Q-01419-00282896-00283047 i'm you know we are kwqiRou9k_Q-01420-00283048-00283303 some of the few that get to to love what kwqiRou9k_Q-01421-00283304-00283439 we do and do what we love kwqiRou9k_Q-01422-00283440-00283751 a very very small uh kwqiRou9k_Q-01423-00283752-00283903 group of people on this earth that get kwqiRou9k_Q-01424-00283904-00284095 to have this kind of fun at work kwqiRou9k_Q-01425-00284096-00284303 so i love talking about this stuff so kwqiRou9k_Q-01426-00284304-00284399 definitely kwqiRou9k_Q-01427-00284400-00284551 be more than happy to talk about it but kwqiRou9k_Q-01428-00284552-00284799 again um just learning from others is kwqiRou9k_Q-01429-00284800-00284863 huge kwqiRou9k_Q-01430-00284864-00285182 uh you know going to the alachua county kwqiRou9k_Q-01431-00285183-00285343 website and seeing again kwqiRou9k_Q-01432-00285344-00285558 it was not the hal show it was a team kwqiRou9k_Q-01433-00285559-00285654 show kwqiRou9k_Q-01434-00285655-00285758 going over there and seeing some of the kwqiRou9k_Q-01435-00285759-00285903 things that they're still doing today as kwqiRou9k_Q-01436-00285904-00286095 far as flipping some of the data kwqiRou9k_Q-01437-00286096-00286367 that we're that we get to do um i think kwqiRou9k_Q-01438-00286368-00286454 the next kwqiRou9k_Q-01439-00286455-00286775 the next bastion of kwqiRou9k_Q-01440-00286776-00287103 uh effort is gonna be getting our gis kwqiRou9k_Q-01441-00287104-00287254 platforms together and doing a more kwqiRou9k_Q-01442-00287255-00287439 common operational picture kwqiRou9k_Q-01443-00287440-00287719 having these understanding of open apis kwqiRou9k_Q-01444-00287720-00287847 and that's some of the fun things that kwqiRou9k_Q-01445-00287848-00287982 we're starting to do here kwqiRou9k_Q-01446-00287983-00288239 in colorado i'm really excited about kwqiRou9k_Q-01447-00288240-00288391 bringing some of these kwqiRou9k_Q-01448-00288392-00288599 collaborative processors or coming into kwqiRou9k_Q-01449-00288600-00288719 some of these things where they kwqiRou9k_Q-01450-00288720-00288943 they talk about unified gis they talk kwqiRou9k_Q-01451-00288944-00289071 about kwqiRou9k_Q-01452-00289072-00289391 how to flip internal coordination into a kwqiRou9k_Q-01453-00289392-00289471 public kwqiRou9k_Q-01454-00289472-00289630 communication i think is the next kwqiRou9k_Q-01455-00289631-00289815 powerful tool of ours kwqiRou9k_Q-01456-00289816-00289982 i think the public is mature enough to kwqiRou9k_Q-01457-00289983-00290239 understand our data that we've been kind kwqiRou9k_Q-01458-00290240-00290327 of kwqiRou9k_Q-01459-00290328-00290582 uh huddling around i think we have a kwqiRou9k_Q-01460-00290583-00290710 very kwqiRou9k_Q-01461-00290711-00290982 mature and advanced community that can kwqiRou9k_Q-01462-00290983-00291039 handle kwqiRou9k_Q-01463-00291040-00291215 information in ways that we never kwqiRou9k_Q-01464-00291216-00291406 thought viable before kwqiRou9k_Q-01465-00291407-00291567 and i think that's the next step is now kwqiRou9k_Q-01466-00291568-00291703 that we're finally being able to do this kwqiRou9k_Q-01467-00291704-00291815 internally kwqiRou9k_Q-01468-00291816-00292023 how do we begin to understand and share kwqiRou9k_Q-01469-00292024-00292182 this information so people can be kwqiRou9k_Q-01470-00292183-00292343 empowered to make better decisions for kwqiRou9k_Q-01471-00292344-00292599 themselves and emergencies kwqiRou9k_Q-01472-00292600-00292815 awesome no great well thanks a lot hal kwqiRou9k_Q-01473-00292816-00292982 for talking with us kwqiRou9k_Q-01474-00292983-00293199 and for those who are watching uh make kwqiRou9k_Q-01475-00293200-00293319 sure you check out kwqiRou9k_Q-01476-00293320-00293527 the other vignettes from some of the kwqiRou9k_Q-01477-00293528-00293727 other jurisdictions and organizations kwqiRou9k_Q-01478-00293728-00293806 that are kwqiRou9k_Q-01479-00293807-00293982 uh that have made the shift towards kwqiRou9k_Q-01480-00293983-00294151 virtual emergency operations as well as kwqiRou9k_Q-01481-00294152-00294279 virtual planning kwqiRou9k_Q-01482-00294280-00294519 and hopefully you learned a little bit kwqiRou9k_Q-01483-00294520-00294767 today that you can transition into your kwqiRou9k_Q-01484-00294768-00294975 world and by the time we have our next kwqiRou9k_Q-01485-00294976-00295143 pandemic which 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k_pw9TTRaP4-00024-00006323-00006468 translator we had that the same k_pw9TTRaP4-00025-00006469-00006616 discussion but you know I don't want to k_pw9TTRaP4-00026-00006617-00006714 give you a wrong impression with you a k_pw9TTRaP4-00027-00006715-00006952 lot of things it's just as something so k_pw9TTRaP4-00028-00006953-00007261 somerville complexity it's hard to do in k_pw9TTRaP4-00029-00007262-00007567 this informal way and so what lumia k_pw9TTRaP4-00030-00007568-00007764 helps us to do is to say okay we k_pw9TTRaP4-00031-00007765-00007973 discussed it you came to an agreement k_pw9TTRaP4-00032-00007975-00008464 you know it's easy to use and you it k_pw9TTRaP4-00033-00008465-00008620 allows you to work in on how you are k_pw9TTRaP4-00034-00008621-00009014 with away at the without being chaotic k_pw9TTRaP4-00035-00009015-00009246 that's acting everything you really k_pw9TTRaP4-00036-00009247-00009541 legitimize decision and then you you can k_pw9TTRaP4-00037-00009542-00009846 say 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had to wonder a k_yse36wNPo-00022-00004752-00004975 little bit at how contrived it felt k_yse36wNPo-00023-00004976-00005206 how would that play out mechanically it k_yse36wNPo-00024-00005207-00005383 feels like the charm person spell is the k_yse36wNPo-00025-00005384-00005583 closest analog but the target knows k_yse36wNPo-00026-00005584-00005751 they've been screwed with once it wears k_yse36wNPo-00027-00005752-00005886 off k_yse36wNPo-00028-00005887-00006095 that's a dead end for politics and k_yse36wNPo-00029-00006096-00006263 unless you've got some meta magic for k_yse36wNPo-00030-00006264-00006470 subtle casting i'd think using a spell k_yse36wNPo-00031-00006472-00006639 would be noticeable if you're surrounded k_yse36wNPo-00032-00006640-00006903 by dinner guests and royal guards k_yse36wNPo-00033-00006904-00007087 well it turns out i don't know k_yse36wNPo-00034-00007088-00007342 about vampires in d because they can do k_yse36wNPo-00035-00007343-00007631 exactly that rules as 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oh hey loomis and jack kDCmEMEySjE-00007-00001896-00002110 louie's in chat kDCmEMEySjE-00008-00002111-00002215 loomis kDCmEMEySjE-00009-00002216-00002487 louie has smiley face wait wait so what kDCmEMEySjE-00010-00002488-00002767 is this kDCmEMEySjE-00011-00002768-00002991 uh have you ever heard of the casting kDCmEMEySjE-00012-00002992-00003118 couch kDCmEMEySjE-00013-00003119-00003390 no kDCmEMEySjE-00014-00003392-00003663 so basically it's this couch that was in kDCmEMEySjE-00015-00003664-00003903 this really popular movie kDCmEMEySjE-00016-00003904-00004070 what movie um kDCmEMEySjE-00017-00004071-00004231 i don't remember it's like one of those kDCmEMEySjE-00018-00004232-00004591 shitty indie films kDCmEMEySjE-00019-00004592-00004806 like the sundance pen festival kind of kDCmEMEySjE-00020-00004807-00005038 [__] you know kDCmEMEySjE-00021-00005039-00005215 okay okay so so kDCmEMEySjE-00022-00005216-00005463 what what about that indy kDCmEMEySjE-00023-00005464-00005679 um and in the movie the couch comes kDCmEMEySjE-00024-00005680-00005959 alive and it eats anyone who sits on it kDCmEMEySjE-00025-00005960-00006167 it's really dumb it's a really dumb kDCmEMEySjE-00026-00006168-00006295 movie kDCmEMEySjE-00027-00006296-00006399 the kDCmEMEySjE-00028-00006400-00006806 couch eats you kDCmEMEySjE-00029-00006808-00007070 yeah kDCmEMEySjE-00030-00007072-00007270 we're kDCmEMEySjE-00031-00007272-00007446 where do they even think of these kind kDCmEMEySjE-00032-00007447-00007751 of ideas kDCmEMEySjE-00033-00007752-00007967 i don't know if it's wild kDCmEMEySjE-00034-00007968-00008295 people just make stuff up like that kDCmEMEySjE-00035-00008296-00008510 it's crazy kDCmEMEySjE-00036-00008511-00008663 i thought i have brain damage but kDCmEMEySjE-00037-00008664-00008863 apparently the creator of that movie had kDCmEMEySjE-00038-00008864-00009023 brain death kDCmEMEySjE-00039-00009024-00009231 yeah it's really dumb but it's become kDCmEMEySjE-00040-00009232-00009599 like a meme on the internet and uh kDCmEMEySjE-00041-00009600-00009855 yeah that's why she looks so afraid kDCmEMEySjE-00042-00009856-00010287 because the couch is gonna eat her kDCmEMEySjE-00043-00010288-00010703 then then why does tail look so happy kDCmEMEySjE-00044-00010704-00010927 because uh there's another scene where kDCmEMEySjE-00045-00010928-00011159 there's like a little goblin monster and kDCmEMEySjE-00046-00011160-00011335 the goblin monster is actually what's kDCmEMEySjE-00047-00011336-00011471 inside the couch it's actually kind of kDCmEMEySjE-00048-00011472-00011646 like a gremlins ripoff have you ever kDCmEMEySjE-00049-00011647-00011806 seen the lily gremlins kDCmEMEySjE-00050-00011807-00011935 no kDCmEMEySjE-00051-00011936-00012110 okay well gremlins is this [__] kDCmEMEySjE-00052-00012111-00012327 fantastic movie it's by steven spielberg kDCmEMEySjE-00053-00012328-00012527 and it's got like these little demon kDCmEMEySjE-00054-00012528-00012742 creatures that are actually from north kDCmEMEySjE-00055-00012743-00013015 american folklore uh during uh i think kDCmEMEySjE-00056-00013016-00013166 it was world war ii kDCmEMEySjE-00057-00013168-00013366 there were there wasn't vietnam i don't kDCmEMEySjE-00058-00013368-00013583 know there was there were these kDCmEMEySjE-00059-00013584-00013711 there was like all the planes are kDCmEMEySjE-00060-00013712-00013927 breaking down must be like the gremlins kDCmEMEySjE-00061-00013928-00014022 right kDCmEMEySjE-00062-00014023-00014311 and then so the gremlins movie kDCmEMEySjE-00063-00014312-00014535 is like giving like a physical shape to kDCmEMEySjE-00064-00014536-00014711 those little creatures kDCmEMEySjE-00065-00014712-00014991 and there's like a gremlin knockoff kDCmEMEySjE-00066-00014991-00015175 this movie came out like right after the kDCmEMEySjE-00067-00015176-00015447 popularity of gremlins kDCmEMEySjE-00068-00015447-00015791 and so then putting theo there like in kDCmEMEySjE-00069-00015791-00015991 that shot like that is supposed to be kDCmEMEySjE-00070-00015991-00016158 like a reference to that because at one kDCmEMEySjE-00071-00016159-00016294 point in the movie one of the little kDCmEMEySjE-00072-00016295-00016455 gremlin things like pokes their head up kDCmEMEySjE-00073-00016456-00016758 at the camera kDCmEMEySjE-00074-00016759-00017086 when does this movie come out kDCmEMEySjE-00075-00017087-00017447 uh gremlins came out no that's the the kDCmEMEySjE-00076-00017448-00017615 this indie movie kDCmEMEySjE-00077-00017616-00017814 yeah that's what i don't remember the kDCmEMEySjE-00078-00017815-00017983 specifics about the indie movie i don't kDCmEMEySjE-00079-00017984-00018150 know like who directed that or anything kDCmEMEySjE-00080-00018151-00018255 but um kDCmEMEySjE-00081-00018256-00018430 what why is chad moldy is that when did kDCmEMEySjE-00082-00018431-00018558 gremlins come out kDCmEMEySjE-00083-00018559-00018814 why are they molding kDCmEMEySjE-00084-00018815-00018999 iron you're really dumb i already kDCmEMEySjE-00085-00019000-00019167 stopped you can't kDCmEMEySjE-00086-00019168-00019543 pitbull has a script kDCmEMEySjE-00087-00019544-00019999 let's do a watching from the script kDCmEMEySjE-00088-00020000-00020663 um apparently there's that you're lying kDCmEMEySjE-00089-00020664-00021143 apparently your love kDCmEMEySjE-00090-00021144-00021286 i don't know why they're accusing me of kDCmEMEySjE-00091-00021287-00021575 that kDCmEMEySjE-00092-00021576-00022686 chat when did gremlins come out kDCmEMEySjE-00093-00022687-00023030 it came out in 1984. is this the movie kDCmEMEySjE-00094-00023031-00023214 you were talking about kDCmEMEySjE-00095-00023215-00023367 uh that's the one that inspired the kDCmEMEySjE-00096-00023368-00023727 casting couch kDCmEMEySjE-00097-00023728-00024148 now google casting couch kGfMaEr5MyI-00000-00000000-00000257 we predict the weather like I know most kGfMaEr5MyI-00001-00000258-00000607 of us who have you know I phones or you kGfMaEr5MyI-00002-00000608-00000941 know androids that are like iPhones and kGfMaEr5MyI-00003-00000942-00001181 you can look up and you'll give it a kGfMaEr5MyI-00004-00001182-00001474 guess it about a week you know when it's kGfMaEr5MyI-00005-00001475-00001636 going to rain when it's going to snow kGfMaEr5MyI-00006-00001637-00001972 when the sun's coming out but what about kGfMaEr5MyI-00007-00001973-00002423 earthquakes hurricanes tornadoes yes who kGfMaEr5MyI-00008-00002424-00002600 come together you want to take one thing kGfMaEr5MyI-00009-00002601-00002816 at a time what let's look at the issue kGfMaEr5MyI-00010-00002817-00003217 of whether okay after the Second World kGfMaEr5MyI-00011-00003218-00003635 War there were serious thoughts given to kGfMaEr5MyI-00012-00003636-00004033 weather prediction that believed kGfMaEr5MyI-00013-00004034-00004247 seriously that they could predict kGfMaEr5MyI-00014-00004248-00004604 weather for a year and there was a man kGfMaEr5MyI-00015-00004605-00004895 who was then at the national bureau of kGfMaEr5MyI-00016-00004896-00005143 standards i think i may be mistaken a kGfMaEr5MyI-00017-00005144-00005620 National Weather Bureau named Lorenz who kGfMaEr5MyI-00018-00005621-00005845 thought this indeed was the case and kGfMaEr5MyI-00019-00005846-00006163 what he did he took a series of kGfMaEr5MyI-00020-00006164-00006550 equations that represented a wirless kGfMaEr5MyI-00021-00006551-00006892 circulation pattern and put these into a kGfMaEr5MyI-00022-00006893-00007301 computer there were this case series of kGfMaEr5MyI-00023-00007302-00007544 equations and he modestly went about kGfMaEr5MyI-00024-00007545-00007913 finding near term solutions and they all kGfMaEr5MyI-00025-00007914-00008149 worked out well I mean he found that kGfMaEr5MyI-00026-00008150-00008405 yeah they had solutions that could kGfMaEr5MyI-00027-00008406-00008603 predict the weather for about five days kGfMaEr5MyI-00028-00008604-00008969 thus far but why not go further let's go kGfMaEr5MyI-00029-00008970-00009283 on this looks successful let's do this kGfMaEr5MyI-00030-00009284-00009556 unfortunately he came back one weekend kGfMaEr5MyI-00031-00009557-00009799 and found out he had a variety of kGfMaEr5MyI-00032-00009800-00010244 solutions this was incomprehensible what kGfMaEr5MyI-00033-00010245-00010453 did he do he went back to the equations kGfMaEr5MyI-00034-00010454-00010756 and he began to check the equations he kGfMaEr5MyI-00035-00010757-00011105 had essentially three equations that kGfMaEr5MyI-00036-00011106-00011389 represented weather and where the near kGfMaEr5MyI-00037-00011390-00011687 term solutions were correct were in very kGfMaEr5MyI-00038-00011688-00012088 near to the original input data or I kGfMaEr5MyI-00039-00012089-00012278 would say that they were not far from kGfMaEr5MyI-00040-00012279-00012514 his initial set of conditions he could kGfMaEr5MyI-00041-00012515-00012739 go out so far and yes it agreed with kGfMaEr5MyI-00042-00012740-00013010 however he found that if he let it go so kGfMaEr5MyI-00043-00013011-00013344 much further the results were very diff kGfMaEr5MyI-00044-00013344-00013557 that they did not reproduce themselves kGfMaEr5MyI-00045-00013558-00013860 no why one of the things he discovered kGfMaEr5MyI-00046-00013861-00014166 was that the equations themselves were kGfMaEr5MyI-00047-00014166-00014436 what he began to realize we're nonlinear kGfMaEr5MyI-00048-00014437-00014763 and when you have nonlinear sets of kGfMaEr5MyI-00049-00014763-00015141 equations you get strange solutions most kGfMaEr5MyI-00050-00015141-00015425 of our mathematics today deal with what kGfMaEr5MyI-00051-00015426-00015915 I call linear solutions I mean we can do kGfMaEr5MyI-00052-00015916-00016140 lots of things with mathematics and kGfMaEr5MyI-00053-00016141-00016328 predicting and doing all kinds of things kGfMaEr5MyI-00054-00016329-00016710 but only in the near term what do you kGfMaEr5MyI-00055-00016711-00016947 mean by the near term near term means I kGfMaEr5MyI-00056-00016948-00017183 think at least end if you have if you kGfMaEr5MyI-00057-00017184-00017444 have long-term effects and then kGfMaEr5MyI-00058-00017445-00017655 solutions with solutions let's say with kGfMaEr5MyI-00059-00017656-00017913 the input data goes further and further kGfMaEr5MyI-00060-00017914-00018111 out that you want to get results further kGfMaEr5MyI-00061-00018112-00018336 and further out in the solution it kGfMaEr5MyI-00062-00018337-00018513 doesn't work as easily here we find that kGfMaEr5MyI-00063-00018514-00018789 we have what's called bifurcation which kGfMaEr5MyI-00064-00018790-00019144 is splitting of the solutions we have kGfMaEr5MyI-00065-00019145-00019575 incomprehensible answers to questions kGfMaEr5MyI-00066-00019576-00019797 that we thought if we change the initial kGfMaEr5MyI-00067-00019798-00020012 conditions slightly but David what I kGfMaEr5MyI-00068-00020013-00020274 don't understand is how can we predict kGfMaEr5MyI-00069-00020275-00020559 what the weather is for the weak let's kGfMaEr5MyI-00070-00020560-00020780 save the week the week is the near term kGfMaEr5MyI-00071-00020781-00021131 ok but we can't predict you know like kGfMaEr5MyI-00072-00021132-00021324 and say California where they have kGfMaEr5MyI-00073-00021325-00021506 earthquakes well they have different kGfMaEr5MyI-00074-00021507-00021714 that's not whether that's something else kGfMaEr5MyI-00075-00021715-00022022 let's leave but what is such an eve you kGfMaEr5MyI-00076-00022023-00022475 know earth consequences out of it we're kGfMaEr5MyI-00077-00022476-00022637 not talking about earthquake we're not kGfMaEr5MyI-00078-00022638-00022875 talking about volcanoes we're talking kGfMaEr5MyI-00079-00022876-00023084 about whether okay so weather is the kGfMaEr5MyI-00080-00023085-00023340 atmosphere around the earth so does that kGfMaEr5MyI-00081-00023341-00023559 have so I earthquakes is something that kGfMaEr5MyI-00082-00023560-00023808 happens the earthquakes are a different kGfMaEr5MyI-00083-00023809-00024080 problem entirely high cost you have to kGfMaEr5MyI-00084-00024081-00024366 first of all an earthquake is a shame to kGfMaEr5MyI-00085-00024367-00024612 be okay a chaos theory of some kind kGfMaEr5MyI-00086-00024613-00024855 applied to not problems like we don't kGfMaEr5MyI-00087-00024856-00025308 ks3 is not a predictive tool and say kGfMaEr5MyI-00088-00025309-00025593 it's a way of thinking about the process kGfMaEr5MyI-00089-00025594-00025922 right ok so we as yet chaos theory is kGfMaEr5MyI-00090-00025923-00026331 not implicated in every problem we think kGfMaEr5MyI-00091-00026332-00026583 of it can't be applied easily kGfMaEr5MyI-00092-00026583-00026883 some things that we can apply it to we kGfMaEr5MyI-00093-00026883-00027108 know we can do certain things with chaos kGfMaEr5MyI-00094-00027108-00027354 theory which is a theory again I said of kGfMaEr5MyI-00095-00027355-00027786 uncertainty really for example there's kGfMaEr5MyI-00096-00027787-00028040 one problem in physical science that is kGfMaEr5MyI-00097-00028041-00028396 of serious consequence to what I call kGfMaEr5MyI-00098-00028397-00028626 hydrogen amis asst people who think kGfMaEr5MyI-00099-00028627-00028877 about water and the way water behaves kGfMaEr5MyI-00100-00028877-00029262 flowing water we know two things about kGfMaEr5MyI-00101-00029263-00029610 the way water behaves we have water that kGfMaEr5MyI-00102-00029611-00030065 flows smoothly along the surface and we kGfMaEr5MyI-00103-00030066-00030480 call that laminar flow and then we have kGfMaEr5MyI-00104-00030481-00030711 another region where there seems to you kGfMaEr5MyI-00105-00030712-00031127 in a stream flowing down gully it kGfMaEr5MyI-00106-00031127-00031350 suddenly looks like becomes turbulent kGfMaEr5MyI-00107-00031351-00031689 but it's it's very mixed up with froth kGfMaEr5MyI-00108-00031689-00031977 and everything else going on why we kGfMaEr5MyI-00109-00031977-00032514 cannot predict the the essentially the kGfMaEr5MyI-00110-00032514-00032829 point at which this turbulence occurs we kGfMaEr5MyI-00111-00032830-00033042 have no theory that allows us into it kGfMaEr5MyI-00112-00033043-00033279 listen you're talking about more like kGfMaEr5MyI-00113-00033280-00033531 hurricanes then the hurricanes weaken kGfMaEr5MyI-00114-00033532-00033906 hurricanes have more factors that are kGfMaEr5MyI-00115-00033907-00034140 introduced into a theory the more kGfMaEr5MyI-00116-00034141-00034350 difficult it becomes to solve the kGfMaEr5MyI-00117-00034351-00034683 problem as a result we see now for kGfMaEr5MyI-00118-00034684-00034883 example and someone may call me on this kGfMaEr5MyI-00119-00034884-00035175 is that we have a model of the Earth's kGfMaEr5MyI-00120-00035176-00035537 atmosphere on which we base a lot of our kGfMaEr5MyI-00121-00035538-00035781 information a predictive information kGfMaEr5MyI-00122-00035782-00036102 about climate change now here is a kGfMaEr5MyI-00123-00036103-00036429 system that is so complicated that it kGfMaEr5MyI-00124-00036430-00036881 depends on dunno every aspect of the kGfMaEr5MyI-00125-00036882-00037287 let's say of the variables that are kGfMaEr5MyI-00126-00037288-00037490 introduced into the system you know kGfMaEr5MyI-00127-00037491-00037701 everything about well the problem is kGfMaEr5MyI-00128-00037702-00037956 beginning to be clear that we don't so kGfMaEr5MyI-00129-00037957-00038124 when there are people who are saying kGfMaEr5MyI-00130-00038125-00038327 well you know I don't believe in climate kGfMaEr5MyI-00131-00038328-00038552 change or doing there are some basic kGfMaEr5MyI-00132-00038553-00038769 evidence why they're saying that these kGfMaEr5MyI-00133-00038770-00039002 are not people that are stupid there are kGfMaEr5MyI-00134-00039003-00039195 people that are just objecting to what kGfMaEr5MyI-00135-00039196-00039452 someone else says that you know that kGfMaEr5MyI-00136-00039453-00039756 here we are in a region of terrible kGfMaEr5MyI-00137-00039757-00040112 uncertainty in what the consequences of kGfMaEr5MyI-00138-00040113-00040415 predictions are for weather change or kGfMaEr5MyI-00139-00040416-00040662 weather or climate change we see things kGfMaEr5MyI-00140-00040663-00040958 now we put those down and attribute kGfMaEr5MyI-00141-00040959-00041142 those to the effect of climate change kGfMaEr5MyI-00142-00041143-00041489 but we have no way of serious solutions kGfMaEr5MyI-00143-00041490-00041826 we have a linear solution the current kGfMaEr5MyI-00144-00041827-00042123 model of a climate change model is a kGfMaEr5MyI-00145-00042124-00042440 circulation model of atmosphere around kGfMaEr5MyI-00146-00042441-00042798 the Earth's and we have and what does kGfMaEr5MyI-00147-00042799-00043080 that include my god I think of the kGfMaEr5MyI-00148-00043081-00043499 variables temperature pressure kGfMaEr5MyI-00149-00043500-00043898 particulates every kind of thing cities kGfMaEr5MyI-00150-00043899-00044189 emanating heat into the atmosphere all kGfMaEr5MyI-00151-00044190-00044523 these things affect climate change as kGfMaEr5MyI-00152-00044524-00044765 well as what else we do on the grand kGfMaEr5MyI-00153-00044766-00045048 scale which have been primarily input kGfMaEr5MyI-00154-00045049-00045752 and like all them climate gases or the kGfMaEr5MyI-00155-00045753-00045936 greenhouse gases because there's those kGfMaEr5MyI-00156-00045937-00046101 all the people that believe in climate kGfMaEr5MyI-00157-00046102-00046269 raise they don't believe in kind of kGfMaEr5MyI-00158-00046270-00046533 trades you don't know what is real well kGfMaEr5MyI-00159-00046534-00046719 the problem is the public doesn't know kGfMaEr5MyI-00160-00046720-00047133 anything the public is a guest at what kGfMaEr5MyI-00161-00047134-00047370 they hear okay but when you're saying kGfMaEr5MyI-00162-00047371-00047676 about it we're not well informed or not kGfMaEr5MyI-00163-00047677-00047958 because most people do not have any kGfMaEr5MyI-00164-00047959-00048180 scientific background of understanding kGfMaEr5MyI-00165-00048181-00048405 but scientists themselves differ on kGfMaEr5MyI-00166-00048406-00048660 their points of view and always have so kGfMaEr5MyI-00167-00048661-00048948 when they say that they attribute this kGfMaEr5MyI-00168-00048949-00049352 to X and they have data that proves it kGfMaEr5MyI-00169-00049353-00049581 for example over a period of many years kGfMaEr5MyI-00170-00049582-00049845 to say this is what has happened this is kGfMaEr5MyI-00171-00049846-00050039 a result of we can say yeah that is a kGfMaEr5MyI-00172-00050040-00050376 fact of science for example we know we kGfMaEr5MyI-00173-00050377-00050690 can measure certain things in climate kGfMaEr5MyI-00174-00050691-00050910 change we can measure carbon dioxide kGfMaEr5MyI-00175-00050911-00051206 concentrations in the atmosphere we can kGfMaEr5MyI-00176-00051207-00051479 realize that from a period of time from kGfMaEr5MyI-00177-00051479-00051764 1900 until now there has been a kGfMaEr5MyI-00178-00051765-00052070 noticeable increase in carbon dioxide we kGfMaEr5MyI-00179-00052071-00052350 will also recognize that carbon dioxide kGfMaEr5MyI-00180-00052351-00052671 is what is called a gas that absorbs kGfMaEr5MyI-00181-00052672-00052977 radiation okay so that the time kGfMaEr5MyI-00182-00052978-00053126 essentially what we kGfMaEr5MyI-00183-00053127-00053411 is what we know now is that the kGfMaEr5MyI-00184-00053412-00053640 concentration of carbon dioxide in the kGfMaEr5MyI-00185-00053641-00054066 atmosphere acts like a blanket that kGfMaEr5MyI-00186-00054066-00054431 inhibits gases are heat from radiating kGfMaEr5MyI-00187-00054432-00054755 outward now they say what about inward kGfMaEr5MyI-00188-00054756-00054954 well going inward is a very different kGfMaEr5MyI-00189-00054954-00055122 problem in radiation theory that kGfMaEr5MyI-00190-00055123-00055301 requires us to understand that it can kGfMaEr5MyI-00191-00055302-00055637 absorb but it can't reflect no to the kGfMaEr5MyI-00192-00055638-00055884 chaos theory that you talked about how kGfMaEr5MyI-00193-00055885-00056097 can that be present it is a remodel kGfMaEr5MyI-00194-00056098-00056340 chaos theory at the present time it's kGfMaEr5MyI-00195-00056341-00056651 uncertain what it really can do it's in kGfMaEr5MyI-00196-00056652-00056918 it's very elemental state at the present kGfMaEr5MyI-00197-00056919-00057165 time we know things about it you know kGfMaEr5MyI-00198-00057166-00057435 certain things that it does we know that kGfMaEr5MyI-00199-00057436-00057817 overall in chaos there's some order I kGfMaEr5MyI-00200-00057818-00058073 mean we've learned a lot of things from kGfMaEr5MyI-00201-00058074-00058319 it but we have not applied it to kGfMaEr5MyI-00202-00058320-00058607 anything in particular why would it kGfMaEr5MyI-00203-00058608-00058832 attracted you to it because i know you kGfMaEr5MyI-00204-00058833-00059334 are painted in concept of uncertainty as kGfMaEr5MyI-00205-00059335-00059699 an engineer I had been responsible for kGfMaEr5MyI-00206-00059700-00060191 designing plant etc okay operating kGfMaEr5MyI-00207-00060192-00060506 refinery now in that one has to know kGfMaEr5MyI-00208-00060507-00060846 many things and the problems you have in kGfMaEr5MyI-00209-00060847-00061215 requires is a you're dealing with highly kGfMaEr5MyI-00210-00061216-00061529 flammable materials that you're kGfMaEr5MyI-00211-00061530-00061815 processing and you would like to ensure kGfMaEr5MyI-00212-00061816-00062079 that you don't have an explosion or in a kGfMaEr5MyI-00213-00062079-00062432 fire fry in that plant so you have to kGfMaEr5MyI-00214-00062433-00062634 die any design it with certain safety kGfMaEr5MyI-00215-00062635-00063015 features now the longer we work with it kGfMaEr5MyI-00216-00063016-00063309 the more we learn because earlier in it kGfMaEr5MyI-00217-00063310-00063617 in the time of let's say a refinery kGfMaEr5MyI-00218-00063618-00063887 operation there were many explosions I kGfMaEr5MyI-00219-00063888-00064140 mean people don't realize that that bird kGfMaEr5MyI-00220-00064141-00064428 you know plants were blowing up we had kGfMaEr5MyI-00221-00064429-00064688 all kinds of explosions going on that kGfMaEr5MyI-00222-00064689-00064892 everyone thought they had technically kGfMaEr5MyI-00223-00064893-00065091 learned everything about it and yet they kGfMaEr5MyI-00224-00065091-00065346 didn't know much what about even I mean kGfMaEr5MyI-00225-00065347-00065501 we're not talk about exposures right now kGfMaEr5MyI-00226-00065502-00065736 but you know there were porches you know kGfMaEr5MyI-00227-00065737-00065949 in at a port there are a lot of porches kGfMaEr5MyI-00228-00065950-00066240 in Chicago attached to the apartment kGfMaEr5MyI-00229-00066241-00066450 buildings and people kGfMaEr5MyI-00230-00066451-00066705 the day when they did it did they design kGfMaEr5MyI-00231-00066706-00066924 it that only two people can go on the kGfMaEr5MyI-00232-00066925-00067146 porch but here the portraits that were kGfMaEr5MyI-00233-00067147-00067371 coming down because people had parties kGfMaEr5MyI-00234-00067372-00067599 on the porches they may have about 20 25 kGfMaEr5MyI-00235-00067600-00067868 people and the porch came tumbling down kGfMaEr5MyI-00236-00067869-00068184 ryone it's my own feeling about it my kGfMaEr5MyI-00237-00068185-00068382 daughter was caught in one of those axes kGfMaEr5MyI-00238-00068383-00068562 you're kidding see I didn't even know kGfMaEr5MyI-00239-00068563-00068778 that in here we are talking about Ridge kGfMaEr5MyI-00240-00068779-00069075 Road near Devon they were they had a kGfMaEr5MyI-00241-00069076-00069276 party on the porch and the porch kGfMaEr5MyI-00242-00069277-00069516 collapse they fortunately she was in kGfMaEr5MyI-00243-00069517-00069987 notation the problem is that man does kGfMaEr5MyI-00244-00069988-00070407 not anticipate every eventualities if kGfMaEr5MyI-00245-00070408-00070632 they didn't anticipate that more than kGfMaEr5MyI-00246-00070633-00070884 two people or three people would end up kGfMaEr5MyI-00247-00070885-00071082 going and the porch they didn't build it kGfMaEr5MyI-00248-00071083-00071342 poor well let's let's look at the kGfMaEr5MyI-00249-00071343-00071790 military on this let's look at the cat kGfMaEr5MyI-00250-00071791-00072087 that what has happened in aircraft kGfMaEr5MyI-00251-00072088-00072411 transportation you don't hear a plane kGfMaEr5MyI-00252-00072412-00072720 crashing frequently anymore do you not kGfMaEr5MyI-00253-00072721-00073029 as much no in fact for the most part the kGfMaEr5MyI-00254-00073030-00073371 safety level is so great that really kGfMaEr5MyI-00255-00073372-00073761 very few aircraft have essentially kGfMaEr5MyI-00256-00073762-00074015 crashed in the time we have been around kGfMaEr5MyI-00257-00074016-00074421 but as I said earlier we used to believe kGfMaEr5MyI-00258-00074422-00074718 it was three crashes a week a month Wow kGfMaEr5MyI-00259-00074719-00074916 or a year i would say three classes a kGfMaEr5MyI-00260-00074917-00075200 year would occur in a individual airline kGfMaEr5MyI-00261-00075201-00075542 so we did learn a lot we began to use kGfMaEr5MyI-00262-00075543-00075942 various techniques namely risk analysis kGfMaEr5MyI-00263-00075943-00076218 that we hadn't used before and the kGfMaEr5MyI-00264-00076219-00076479 aircraft industry was primary and one of kGfMaEr5MyI-00265-00076480-00076680 them because of the frequency and the kGfMaEr5MyI-00266-00076681-00076944 real and fatalities in the crash and kGfMaEr5MyI-00267-00076945-00077529 risk analysis risking our risk analysis kGfMaEr5MyI-00268-00077530-00077808 basically is probability theory the kGfMaEr5MyI-00269-00077809-00078024 probability of of some event happening kGfMaEr5MyI-00270-00078025-00078342 design something where and then also kGfMaEr5MyI-00271-00078343-00078675 testing it you know one of the problems kGfMaEr5MyI-00272-00078676-00078900 today is we don't test as much as we kGfMaEr5MyI-00273-00078901-00079152 used to because it's too expensive so we kGfMaEr5MyI-00274-00079153-00079347 use am kGfMaEr5MyI-00275-00079348-00079647 a mathematical model in the computer to kGfMaEr5MyI-00276-00079648-00079842 give us the answer this is a problem and kGfMaEr5MyI-00277-00079843-00080115 we still find their areas we cannot rely kGfMaEr5MyI-00278-00080116-00080322 on this there's errors of the computer kGfMaEr5MyI-00279-00080323-00080507 right the computer has limitations kGfMaEr5MyI-00280-00080508-00080944 because there's the old idea is that kGfMaEr5MyI-00281-00080945-00081456 garbage in equals garbage out that's the kGfMaEr5MyI-00282-00081457-00081687 way computer works and if we don't kGfMaEr5MyI-00283-00081688-00081975 understand it's what we put in is the kGfMaEr5MyI-00284-00081976-00082203 consequence of what we get out so the kGfMaEr5MyI-00285-00082204-00082503 idea here is we have just we have to kGfMaEr5MyI-00286-00082504-00082731 wrap up right now and I want to thank kGfMaEr5MyI-00287-00082732-00082982 you for coming David we got so much work kGfMaEr5MyI-00288-00082983-00083205 to do look at all the papers we have kGfMaEr5MyI-00289-00083206-00083397 here and we have just touched just kGfMaEr5MyI-00290-00083398-00083592 touched it lightly and i do want to kGfMaEr5MyI-00291-00083593-00083775 welcome you bad but i think the viewers kGfMaEr5MyI-00292-00083776-00084107 have to know that the chaos theory is kGfMaEr5MyI-00293-00084108-00084348 basically you have to go beyond just kGfMaEr5MyI-00294-00084349-00084581 what it looks like you got to all the kGfMaEr5MyI-00295-00084582-00084771 risk that could be involved you could kGfMaEr5MyI-00296-00084772-00084966 when people design things they have to kGfMaEr5MyI-00297-00084967-00085293 design things for not how just things kGfMaEr5MyI-00298-00085294-00085560 look but what can happen there are many kGfMaEr5MyI-00299-00085561-00085947 other variables that can happen besides kGfMaEr5MyI-00300-00085948-00086231 how it looks and you got to know those kGfMaEr5MyI-00301-00086232-00088499 variables and that's basically in some kGfMaEr5MyI-00302-00088500-00088706 you kH2EyaNaksQ-00000-00000000-00000335 all right cyclohexane and one Exene are kH2EyaNaksQ-00001-00000336-00000603 isomers that both have the formula C 6 H kH2EyaNaksQ-00002-00000604-00000853 best on the molecular structure shown kH2EyaNaksQ-00003-00000855-00001049 which of these isomers would you expect kH2EyaNaksQ-00004-00001050-00001249 you at the highest animal are entropy at kH2EyaNaksQ-00005-00001250-00001796 25 degrees Celsius 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kH2EyaNaksQ-00019-00006332-00006566 percent at 25 degree Celsius kH2EyaNaksQ-00020-00006567-00007084 it's um fluid so there are no crystal kH2EyaNaksQ-00021-00007086-00007319 structures that could influence the kH2EyaNaksQ-00022-00007320-00007726 entropy or castel or lower entropy and kH2EyaNaksQ-00023-00007727-00008201 you see three single bonds between C kH2EyaNaksQ-00024-00008202-00008507 atoms which are able to rotate and kH2EyaNaksQ-00025-00008508-00008642 change the microstructure of the kH2EyaNaksQ-00026-00008643-00009139 molecule um whereas for cyclohexane kH2EyaNaksQ-00027-00009140-00009419 which is by the way it's fluid as well kH2EyaNaksQ-00028-00009420-00009803 at 25 degree Celsius here you have a kH2EyaNaksQ-00029-00009804-00010148 ring structure which limits the motion kH2EyaNaksQ-00030-00010149-00010628 of freedom of the of the C atoms or the kH2EyaNaksQ-00031-00010629-00011203 H atoms so in conclusion we expect one kH2EyaNaksQ-00032-00011204-00011435 Exene to have a higher entropy at 25 kH2EyaNaksQ-00033-00011436-00011674 degrees Celsius because of its ability kH2EyaNaksQ-00034-00011675-00012013 to rotate the CC single bond promotion kH2EyaNaksQ-00035-00012014-00012199 and freedom of cyclohexane and contrary kH2EyaNaksQ-00036-00012200-00012383 is limited by the ring structure which kH2EyaNaksQ-00037-00012384-00012770 leads to a lower molar entropy kIw1B1xabpk-00000-00000440-00000630 we're in the uh in the second journal of kIw1B1xabpk-00001-00000631-00000799 our smok tracking project on the river kIw1B1xabpk-00002-00000800-00000894 rusk kIw1B1xabpk-00003-00000896-00001079 um you see we've got the the upper river kIw1B1xabpk-00004-00001080-00001327 us behind me with our rotary screw truck kIw1B1xabpk-00005-00001328-00001550 which we're fishing later on kIw1B1xabpk-00006-00001551-00001910 we've got approximately 46 receivers kIw1B1xabpk-00007-00001911-00002159 from the upper river down to the estuary kIw1B1xabpk-00008-00002160-00002342 and we'll be tagging 100 salmon smokes kIw1B1xabpk-00009-00002343-00002610 with small acoustic tags kIw1B1xabpk-00010-00002611-00002831 0.64.65 gram kIw1B1xabpk-00011-00002832-00003015 and they'll tell us exactly what these kIw1B1xabpk-00012-00003016-00003175 sports are doing from their journey from kIw1B1xabpk-00013-00003176-00003375 the upper river down to uh down to the kIw1B1xabpk-00014-00003376-00003511 estuary the summer stocks at the moment kIw1B1xabpk-00015-00003511-00003654 the oscar probably kIw1B1xabpk-00016-00003655-00003831 an all-time low so this will really give kIw1B1xabpk-00017-00003832-00003990 us a good idea of what's happened to kIw1B1xabpk-00018-00003992-00004151 these fish in this this critical life kIw1B1xabpk-00019-00004152-00004351 stage the roaches screw trap behind us kIw1B1xabpk-00020-00004352-00004535 this catches the smolts on their kIw1B1xabpk-00021-00004536-00004767 downstream journey um kIw1B1xabpk-00022-00004768-00004911 what we'll do we'll fish this during the kIw1B1xabpk-00023-00004912-00005118 evenings at night time this week fishing kIw1B1xabpk-00024-00005119-00005238 throughout the night we'll check the kIw1B1xabpk-00025-00005239-00005375 trap every hour kIw1B1xabpk-00026-00005376-00005486 um kIw1B1xabpk-00027-00005487-00005663 bring any fish we catch back to the the kIw1B1xabpk-00028-00005664-00005927 tagging site they'll be processed kIw1B1xabpk-00029-00005928-00006070 measured kIw1B1xabpk-00030-00006071-00006318 and he smokes over 120 mil so we can kIw1B1xabpk-00031-00006319-00006575 then tag those fish they'll go into a kIw1B1xabpk-00032-00006576-00006791 recovery tank on the bank then kIw1B1xabpk-00033-00006792-00006927 subsequently a recovery tank in the kIw1B1xabpk-00034-00006928-00007103 river for an hour and once they've kIw1B1xabpk-00035-00007104-00007255 recovered their acting normally will kIw1B1xabpk-00036-00007256-00007423 then release those into the into the kIw1B1xabpk-00037-00007423-00007606 river i'm normally finish up around kIw1B1xabpk-00038-00007608-00007831 about about two to two to three in the kIw1B1xabpk-00039-00007831-00007934 morning much later and we'll be kIw1B1xabpk-00040-00007936-00008110 releasing fish into daylight so that kIw1B1xabpk-00041-00008111-00008310 seems to that seems to work for us the kIw1B1xabpk-00042-00008311-00008478 major thing for us really is the uh the kIw1B1xabpk-00043-00008479-00008614 barriers to the migration on the way kIw1B1xabpk-00044-00008615-00008855 down so that could be uh delays to the kIw1B1xabpk-00045-00008856-00009087 migration uh the migration period so kIw1B1xabpk-00046-00009088-00009255 we're looking at um kIw1B1xabpk-00047-00009256-00009446 they'll have an optimal physiological kIw1B1xabpk-00048-00009447-00009631 window where they have to enter the kIw1B1xabpk-00049-00009632-00009863 marine environment so delays at barriers kIw1B1xabpk-00050-00009864-00010087 such as bridge footings or kIw1B1xabpk-00051-00010088-00010199 or weirs kIw1B1xabpk-00052-00010200-00010351 that can cause kIw1B1xabpk-00053-00010352-00010591 mortality to some extent and also we're kIw1B1xabpk-00054-00010592-00010791 looking at predation so predation from kIw1B1xabpk-00055-00010792-00011046 fish eating birds or large trout kIw1B1xabpk-00056-00011047-00011214 so up until this point we really didn't kIw1B1xabpk-00057-00011215-00011438 know how many smolts we're getting to kIw1B1xabpk-00058-00011439-00011614 see so this will give us a really good kIw1B1xabpk-00059-00011615-00011783 idea and kIw1B1xabpk-00060-00011784-00011942 and give us an idea of kIw1B1xabpk-00061-00011943-00012119 mitigation measures and what we can do kIw1B1xabpk-00062-00012120-00012335 to improve the success of these fish kIw1B1xabpk-00063-00012336-00013038 during their migratory period kIw1B1xabpk-00064-00013039-00013247 you kMmapu7upVk-00000-00000016-00000375 what's up nerd ladies do you nerd for kMmapu7upVk-00001-00000376-00000567 thinking about the games you wish you kMmapu7upVk-00002-00000568-00000703 always had kMmapu7upVk-00003-00000704-00000878 what's up guys this is jay from the game kMmapu7upVk-00004-00000880-00001076 chasers and you are watching do you nerd kMmapu7upVk-00005-00001077-00001582 [Music] kMmapu7upVk-00006-00001583-00001823 this has been a fun topic going around kMmapu7upVk-00007-00001823-00001902 the community kMmapu7upVk-00008-00001903-00002231 i think it came from j kMmapu7upVk-00009-00002232-00002431 love and zap crystal i think that they kMmapu7upVk-00010-00002432-00002583 were talking about it kMmapu7upVk-00011-00002584-00002791 uh correct me if i'm wrong but i know a kMmapu7upVk-00012-00002792-00002950 lot of people have done response videos kMmapu7upVk-00013-00002951-00003023 about this kMmapu7upVk-00014-00003024-00003238 essentially it's five games you wish you kMmapu7upVk-00015-00003239-00003517 had when you were a kid kMmapu7upVk-00016-00003518-00003951 [Music] kMmapu7upVk-00017-00003952-00004143 and i'm going to take a page from the kMmapu7upVk-00018-00004144-00004295 book of the troll store himself kMmapu7upVk-00019-00004296-00004654 and say five i can think of 55 games i kMmapu7upVk-00020-00004655-00004751 wish i had as a kid kMmapu7upVk-00021-00004752-00005102 uh i barely had five games as a kid so kMmapu7upVk-00022-00005103-00005399 anything anything else especially when kMmapu7upVk-00023-00005400-00005599 some of my games were things like friday kMmapu7upVk-00024-00005600-00005711 the 13th kMmapu7upVk-00025-00005712-00006047 and back to the future and i didn't need kMmapu7upVk-00026-00006048-00006302 some internet nerd telling me why not i kMmapu7upVk-00027-00006303-00006383 was going to say kMmapu7upVk-00028-00006384-00006550 you just don't like them because video kMmapu7upVk-00029-00006551-00006734 games kMmapu7upVk-00030-00006736-00007110 anyway this is actually pretty easy kMmapu7upVk-00031-00007111-00007367 except i'm going a different route so a kMmapu7upVk-00032-00007368-00007542 lot of people have been choosing retro kMmapu7upVk-00033-00007543-00007710 games that they would have liked to have kMmapu7upVk-00034-00007711-00007742 had kMmapu7upVk-00035-00007743-00008055 as a kid my thing is i kind of wanted kMmapu7upVk-00036-00008056-00008199 some of the modern games kMmapu7upVk-00037-00008200-00008359 yeah because they were longer they're kMmapu7upVk-00038-00008360-00008614 longer now than when we were kids that's kMmapu7upVk-00039-00008615-00008678 what she kMmapu7upVk-00040-00008679-00009063 said so being able to have those longer kMmapu7upVk-00041-00009064-00009183 games when we were younger kMmapu7upVk-00042-00009184-00009431 would have been awesome in between those kMmapu7upVk-00043-00009432-00009671 uh rental times kMmapu7upVk-00044-00009672-00009887 well first and foremost for me i mean kMmapu7upVk-00045-00009888-00010006 i'm just going to say kMmapu7upVk-00046-00010007-00010327 skyrim having that huge of a world and kMmapu7upVk-00047-00010328-00010471 having a world that you could kMmapu7upVk-00048-00010472-00010710 really sink your teeth into and kind of kMmapu7upVk-00049-00010711-00011174 live within kMmapu7upVk-00050-00011175-00011367 that would have been great i would have kMmapu7upVk-00051-00011368-00011559 spent so much time kMmapu7upVk-00052-00011560-00011814 just exploring the world and doing all kMmapu7upVk-00053-00011815-00012055 the little minor side quests kMmapu7upVk-00054-00012056-00012463 [Music] kMmapu7upVk-00055-00012464-00012678 look when i had games like super mario kMmapu7upVk-00056-00012679-00012855 world i did everything in that game to kMmapu7upVk-00057-00012856-00013007 the point that i was turning my kMmapu7upVk-00058-00013008-00013071 television kMmapu7upVk-00059-00013072-00013327 upside down and beating every level on kMmapu7upVk-00060-00013328-00013463 yoshi's island kMmapu7upVk-00061-00013463-00013622 and feeling kind of weird about that kMmapu7upVk-00062-00013623-00013783 thinking okay i need to play another kMmapu7upVk-00063-00013784-00013927 game obviously kMmapu7upVk-00064-00013928-00014199 but skyrim would have been great to sink kMmapu7upVk-00065-00014200-00014350 all those hours into kMmapu7upVk-00066-00014351-00014703 [Music] kMmapu7upVk-00067-00014704-00014815 i would have been disappointed though kMmapu7upVk-00068-00014816-00014943 when i finally got out in the real world kMmapu7upVk-00069-00014944-00015094 and realized i couldn't have a skyrim kMmapu7upVk-00070-00015095-00015343 house in the real world kMmapu7upVk-00071-00015344-00015638 honestly for me the sims game my kMmapu7upVk-00072-00015640-00015775 favorite sims was kMmapu7upVk-00073-00015776-00016086 probably computer-wise sims 2 because i kMmapu7upVk-00074-00016087-00016238 had the most fun with that one kMmapu7upVk-00075-00016240-00016503 and probably sims 3 from the playstation kMmapu7upVk-00076-00016504-00016599 that one i had kMmapu7upVk-00077-00016600-00016750 the most fun of and if i could have had kMmapu7upVk-00078-00016751-00016919 that as a kid i would have kMmapu7upVk-00079-00016920-00017191 loved it because you know even when you kMmapu7upVk-00080-00017192-00017375 did have sims on the computer it ate up kMmapu7upVk-00081-00017376-00017503 all your computer space kMmapu7upVk-00082-00017504-00017622 so the fact that you could have it on a kMmapu7upVk-00083-00017623-00017839 console and not take up all this kMmapu7upVk-00084-00017840-00018286 update space was would have been awesome kMmapu7upVk-00085-00018287-00018511 so clearly we both wanted more out of kMmapu7upVk-00086-00018512-00018614 our games kMmapu7upVk-00087-00018615-00018807 you know speaking of more out of our kMmapu7upVk-00088-00018808-00019063 games when robert and wes were here kMmapu7upVk-00089-00019064-00019239 and the four of us got to play some four kMmapu7upVk-00090-00019240-00019383 swords adventures kMmapu7upVk-00091-00019384-00019630 that would be another one look yeah that kMmapu7upVk-00092-00019631-00019775 legend of zelda entry kMmapu7upVk-00093-00019776-00020014 is basically another link to the past kMmapu7upVk-00094-00020015-00020286 game and all of its style and animation kMmapu7upVk-00095-00020287-00020599 and i love that me and my buddies used kMmapu7upVk-00096-00020600-00020830 to play so much link to the past kMmapu7upVk-00097-00020831-00021039 but the problem is it's a one player kMmapu7upVk-00098-00021040-00021214 game four swords kMmapu7upVk-00099-00021215-00021527 changes all that and i would have adored kMmapu7upVk-00100-00021528-00021735 getting to play that game with my kMmapu7upVk-00101-00021736-00021855 friends it would have been kMmapu7upVk-00102-00021856-00022839 the perfect competitive co-op experience kMmapu7upVk-00103-00022840-00023127 i would also have to say animal crossing kMmapu7upVk-00104-00023128-00023247 but i'm talking like kMmapu7upVk-00105-00023248-00023486 animal crossing new horizons the stuff kMmapu7upVk-00106-00023487-00023663 that they have implemented in this game kMmapu7upVk-00107-00023664-00023927 makes it so much more fun and i would kMmapu7upVk-00108-00023928-00024071 have loved to have had it kMmapu7upVk-00109-00024072-00024430 way back when and with all of the modern kMmapu7upVk-00110-00024431-00024735 bits if you could take the hanging out kMmapu7upVk-00111-00024736-00024927 with friends and stuff like the islands kMmapu7upVk-00112-00024928-00025119 that would have been nice yeah yeah all kMmapu7upVk-00113-00025120-00025263 the stuff that they've implemented this kMmapu7upVk-00114-00025264-00025327 time kMmapu7upVk-00115-00025328-00025439 you know all the things you could do to kMmapu7upVk-00116-00025440-00025646 your island the chatting kMmapu7upVk-00117-00025647-00025902 the traveling all that stuff would have kMmapu7upVk-00118-00025904-00026022 been so much fun kMmapu7upVk-00119-00026023-00026247 back then kMmapu7upVk-00120-00026248-00026583 [Music] kMmapu7upVk-00121-00026583-00026831 well for our final pick we're totally on kMmapu7upVk-00122-00026832-00027070 the same page with this one 100 kMmapu7upVk-00123-00027072-00027279 it's no surprise it's basically kMmapu7upVk-00124-00027280-00027518 combining my first two choices kMmapu7upVk-00125-00027519-00027831 with legend of zelda breath of the wild kMmapu7upVk-00126-00027832-00028143 again just another huge open world to kMmapu7upVk-00127-00028144-00028262 explore kMmapu7upVk-00128-00028263-00028535 but all it really comes down to is a kMmapu7upVk-00129-00028536-00028614 simple fact kMmapu7upVk-00130-00028616-00028814 that this is the kind of gaming kMmapu7upVk-00131-00028816-00029087 experience we always wanted growing up kMmapu7upVk-00132-00029088-00029262 whenever you fall in love with a game kMmapu7upVk-00133-00029263-00029414 story with the characters kMmapu7upVk-00134-00029416-00029646 with the world itself you don't want it kMmapu7upVk-00135-00029647-00029743 to end kMmapu7upVk-00136-00029744-00029990 and breath of the wild is a perfect kMmapu7upVk-00137-00029991-00030135 example of a game that kMmapu7upVk-00138-00030136-00030374 you can play as long as you want or kMmapu7upVk-00139-00030375-00030455 pretty much as kMmapu7upVk-00140-00030456-00030631 short as you want so if you're done kMmapu7upVk-00141-00030632-00030807 finish it you literally could just get kMmapu7upVk-00142-00030808-00030958 on there grab a horse and just ride kMmapu7upVk-00143-00030960-00031670 around kMmapu7upVk-00144-00031672-00031814 you know there's tons of games i can kMmapu7upVk-00145-00031816-00031990 remember as a child looking off in the kMmapu7upVk-00146-00031991-00032158 distance and saying i wish i could climb kMmapu7upVk-00147-00032160-00032246 that mountain kMmapu7upVk-00148-00032247-00032631 breath of the wild you can kMmapu7upVk-00149-00032632-00032799 well i don't know if it's exactly kMmapu7upVk-00150-00032800-00032967 cheating with our choices since we were kMmapu7upVk-00151-00032968-00033143 thinking of a lot of the modern games kMmapu7upVk-00152-00033144-00033223 but kMmapu7upVk-00153-00033224-00033415 like when we were kids these are the kMmapu7upVk-00154-00033416-00033583 kinds of games that we were always kMmapu7upVk-00155-00033584-00033823 dreaming of getting to play someday and kMmapu7upVk-00156-00033824-00033951 now that we're adults kMmapu7upVk-00157-00033952-00034087 we don't have the time to play these kMmapu7upVk-00158-00034088-00034343 kinds of games why do you mock me oh kMmapu7upVk-00159-00034344-00034407 lord kMmapu7upVk-00160-00034408-00034615 homer that's not gone that's just a kMmapu7upVk-00161-00034616-00034918 waffle that bark tossed up there kMmapu7upVk-00162-00034919-00035118 all right nerdlings hey this has been kMmapu7upVk-00163-00035119-00035295 going around the community as i said kMmapu7upVk-00164-00035296-00035374 earlier so kMmapu7upVk-00165-00035375-00035599 feel free to leave a response video if 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kOXUgg2uojy-00063-00052227-00052823 [Music] kOXUgg2uojy-00064-00052824-00053682 [Music] kOXUgg2uojy-00065-00053683-00055615 [Music] kOXUgg2uojy-00066-00055616-00056352 thank you kOXUgg2uojy-00067-00056353-00057326 [Music] kT7lOG6hkmc-00000-00000056-00000295 my name is eva alexander and i am the kT7lOG6hkmc-00001-00000296-00000447 executive director at lighthouse kT7lOG6hkmc-00002-00000448-00000591 immigrant advocates kT7lOG6hkmc-00003-00000592-00000847 i am here today to share my story kT7lOG6hkmc-00004-00000848-00001135 i was born in mexico and came to the kT7lOG6hkmc-00005-00001136-00001470 united states when i was 12. kT7lOG6hkmc-00006-00001471-00001663 my family and i came here because we kT7lOG6hkmc-00007-00001664-00001942 were victims of police brutality in our kT7lOG6hkmc-00008-00001943-00002110 home country kT7lOG6hkmc-00009-00002111-00002471 my mother being a single mom kT7lOG6hkmc-00010-00002472-00002607 she knew kT7lOG6hkmc-00011-00002608-00002902 that her kids would have a safe future kT7lOG6hkmc-00012-00002903-00003295 here in the united states kT7lOG6hkmc-00013-00003296-00003695 aside from that i was a regular kid i kT7lOG6hkmc-00014-00003696-00003990 went to school struggled with homework kT7lOG6hkmc-00015-00003992-00004247 was late for classes and kT7lOG6hkmc-00016-00004248-00004375 had kT7lOG6hkmc-00017-00004376-00004783 many friends throughout the years kT7lOG6hkmc-00018-00004784-00005022 there was always a part of me kT7lOG6hkmc-00019-00005023-00005391 that felt lonely kT7lOG6hkmc-00020-00005392-00005559 there was always a part of me that felt kT7lOG6hkmc-00021-00005560-00005847 ashamed kT7lOG6hkmc-00022-00005848-00006367 of being an immigrant of being different kT7lOG6hkmc-00023-00006368-00006583 i was ashamed of having to explain to my kT7lOG6hkmc-00024-00006584-00006734 friends kT7lOG6hkmc-00025-00006736-00007159 what a quinceanera was kT7lOG6hkmc-00026-00007159-00007327 i was ashamed of always having to kT7lOG6hkmc-00027-00007328-00007967 translate for my mom kT7lOG6hkmc-00028-00007968-00008478 and i was just lonely kT7lOG6hkmc-00029-00008479-00008687 but i knew i could do it i knew i could kT7lOG6hkmc-00030-00008688-00008855 go through it because kT7lOG6hkmc-00031-00008856-00009110 my family was here because my mom was kT7lOG6hkmc-00032-00009111-00009255 here kT7lOG6hkmc-00033-00009256-00009503 she's always been kT7lOG6hkmc-00034-00009504-00009799 a pillar of support kT7lOG6hkmc-00035-00009800-00009883 for kT7lOG6hkmc-00036-00009884-00010310 me and my family kT7lOG6hkmc-00037-00010311-00010574 in 2013 kT7lOG6hkmc-00038-00010575-00010838 i married my husband kT7lOG6hkmc-00039-00010839-00011367 and in 2014 we began a spousal petition kT7lOG6hkmc-00040-00011368-00011606 adjust my status kT7lOG6hkmc-00041-00011607-00011774 in 2015 kT7lOG6hkmc-00042-00011775-00012191 we welcomed our first son kT7lOG6hkmc-00043-00012192-00012503 and in january of 2016 when my son was kT7lOG6hkmc-00044-00012504-00012783 four months old kT7lOG6hkmc-00045-00012784-00013511 mom suddenly had to go back to mexico kT7lOG6hkmc-00046-00013512-00013830 and it was tough kT7lOG6hkmc-00047-00013831-00014119 my son who is now six years old has only kT7lOG6hkmc-00048-00014119-00014511 seen her two or three times kT7lOG6hkmc-00049-00014512-00014791 i now have a one-year-old kT7lOG6hkmc-00050-00014791-00015135 who has never met her kT7lOG6hkmc-00051-00015136-00015407 we've had to go through birthdays kT7lOG6hkmc-00052-00015408-00015735 christmases kT7lOG6hkmc-00053-00015736-00016022 pregnancies kT7lOG6hkmc-00054-00016023-00016175 without her kT7lOG6hkmc-00055-00016176-00016799 without my pillar of support kT7lOG6hkmc-00056-00016800-00016958 to put things into perspective kT7lOG6hkmc-00057-00016959-00017119 lighthouse immigrant advocates was kT7lOG6hkmc-00058-00017120-00017583 founded in november of 2015 kT7lOG6hkmc-00059-00017584-00018071 and i can't help to think what if kT7lOG6hkmc-00060-00018072-00018558 what if my mom would have 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[Applause] kZ_zZt1SCvc-00041-00040408-00040924 [Music] kZ_zZt1SCvc-00042-00040925-00041213 [Applause] kaViC_LyEoo-00000-00000199-00001761 [Music] kaViC_LyEoo-00001-00001762-00003199 [Music] kaViC_LyEoo-00002-00003200-00003331 [Applause] kaViC_LyEoo-00003-00003332-00004415 [Music] kaViC_LyEoo-00004-00004416-00004470 hello kaViC_LyEoo-00005-00004471-00004702 and a very warm welcome to the british kaViC_LyEoo-00006-00004703-00004815 library food season kaViC_LyEoo-00007-00004816-00004951 which is generously supported by kaViC_LyEoo-00008-00004952-00005199 kitchenaid my name is angela clutton it kaViC_LyEoo-00009-00005200-00005399 is my complete joy and delight to be the kaViC_LyEoo-00010-00005400-00005559 guest director of the food season kaViC_LyEoo-00011-00005560-00005695 working with polly russell who's the kaViC_LyEoo-00012-00005696-00005854 season's founder and the creator of the kaViC_LyEoo-00013-00005855-00006006 four years it's been running kaViC_LyEoo-00014-00006007-00006222 you join us in a very busy week for the kaViC_LyEoo-00015-00006223-00006367 food season tonight we're going to be kaViC_LyEoo-00016-00006368-00006518 talking about restaurant writing kaViC_LyEoo-00017-00006519-00006663 tomorrow we bring you stories from kaViC_LyEoo-00018-00006664-00006895 inside the coffee cup thursday is madder kaViC_LyEoo-00019-00006895-00007063 jaffrey talking with linda bogle kaViC_LyEoo-00020-00007064-00007295 about mudders excuse me that matters kaViC_LyEoo-00021-00007295-00007431 life in korean food kaViC_LyEoo-00022-00007431-00007623 and then friday we have a lovely film at kaViC_LyEoo-00023-00007623-00007774 lunch time with all your hercules and kaViC_LyEoo-00024-00007775-00007887 elizabeth kaViC_LyEoo-00025-00007888-00008103 cooking and talking together um a little kaViC_LyEoo-00026-00008104-00008246 housekeeping before we get started kaViC_LyEoo-00027-00008247-00008351 tonight kaViC_LyEoo-00028-00008352-00008495 you should be able to see some tabs on kaViC_LyEoo-00029-00008496-00008607 the screen where you can give your kaViC_LyEoo-00030-00008608-00008671 feedback kaViC_LyEoo-00031-00008672-00008855 on tonight's event you can read a little kaViC_LyEoo-00032-00008856-00009014 bit more about our speakers kaViC_LyEoo-00033-00009015-00009174 or perhaps make a donation to support kaViC_LyEoo-00034-00009175-00009374 the work of the british library kaViC_LyEoo-00035-00009375-00009567 we hope you might like to join in submit kaViC_LyEoo-00036-00009568-00009727 a question to our panel yourself kaViC_LyEoo-00037-00009728-00009887 if you want to do that there's a video kaViC_LyEoo-00038-00009888-00010046 um there's a box under the video where kaViC_LyEoo-00039-00010047-00010191 you can type your question in kaViC_LyEoo-00040-00010192-00010359 and you'll also see the social media kaViC_LyEoo-00041-00010360-00010478 platforms where you can carry on the kaViC_LyEoo-00042-00010479-00010574 conversation there kaViC_LyEoo-00043-00010575-00010838 too you will also see details about the kaViC_LyEoo-00044-00010839-00010983 food season competition kaViC_LyEoo-00045-00010984-00011110 which we're running with kitchenaid kaViC_LyEoo-00046-00011111-00011255 where you could win a range of their kaViC_LyEoo-00047-00011256-00011367 quarters appliances kaViC_LyEoo-00048-00011368-00011551 a place on a virtual cooking class and a kaViC_LyEoo-00049-00011552-00011719 signed copy of the pie room kaViC_LyEoo-00050-00011720-00011959 by calum franklin okay so let's get to kaViC_LyEoo-00051-00011960-00012078 it to tonight's event kaViC_LyEoo-00052-00012079-00012223 exploring different aspects of kaViC_LyEoo-00053-00012224-00012406 restaurant writing a very timely kaViC_LyEoo-00054-00012407-00012495 conversation kaViC_LyEoo-00055-00012496-00012695 as restaurant industry starts to reopen kaViC_LyEoo-00056-00012696-00012879 itself post lockdown kaViC_LyEoo-00057-00012880-00013055 we have a cracking panel of restaurant kaViC_LyEoo-00058-00013056-00013247 writers tonight jimmy finally wearer kaViC_LyEoo-00059-00013247-00013447 nick lander lagai machan kaViC_LyEoo-00060-00013447-00013566 lisa markwell we're still in a kaViC_LyEoo-00061-00013568-00013758 conversation i'll let her introduce the kaViC_LyEoo-00062-00013759-00013807 panel kaViC_LyEoo-00063-00013808-00014030 but first of all a few words on lisa kaViC_LyEoo-00064-00014031-00014215 lisa markwell has been a journalist for kaViC_LyEoo-00065-00014216-00014430 30 years winning awards as served kaViC_LyEoo-00066-00014431-00014543 independent on sunday kaViC_LyEoo-00067-00014544-00014703 and spending eight years as restaurant kaViC_LyEoo-00068-00014704-00014903 critic for that paper she took what she kaViC_LyEoo-00069-00014904-00015007 calls a gap year kaViC_LyEoo-00070-00015008-00015263 so the chefs came at least documenting kaViC_LyEoo-00071-00015263-00015391 her progress on doing that in a kaViC_LyEoo-00072-00015391-00015566 newspaper column and graduating with a kaViC_LyEoo-00073-00015568-00015679 distinction kaViC_LyEoo-00074-00015680-00015838 oh sorry i've got really something in my kaViC_LyEoo-00075-00015840-00015991 throat it's making us hard sorry right kaViC_LyEoo-00076-00015991-00016094 back to lisa kaViC_LyEoo-00077-00016095-00016271 lisa is currently food editor of the kaViC_LyEoo-00078-00016272-00016422 sunday times and until kaViC_LyEoo-00079-00016423-00016591 very recently also editor code kaViC_LyEoo-00080-00016592-00016799 hospitality digital bulletin and print kaViC_LyEoo-00081-00016800-00016855 magazine kaViC_LyEoo-00082-00016856-00017055 the restaurant community there can be no kaViC_LyEoo-00083-00017056-00017183 one better place to steer this kaViC_LyEoo-00084-00017184-00017255 discussion kaViC_LyEoo-00085-00017256-00017430 so i'm going to clean my throat and hand kaViC_LyEoo-00086-00017431-00017943 over to you lisa kaViC_LyEoo-00087-00017944-00018222 thank you very much angela and thanks kaViC_LyEoo-00088-00018223-00018350 very much everyone for joining us kaViC_LyEoo-00089-00018351-00018399 tonight kaViC_LyEoo-00090-00018400-00018639 or an introduction um i feel very kaViC_LyEoo-00091-00018640-00018814 ill-equipped to be the person sharing kaViC_LyEoo-00092-00018815-00018999 this because my three panelists are kaViC_LyEoo-00093-00019000-00019150 absolutely incredible kaViC_LyEoo-00094-00019151-00019343 and they range across everything to do kaViC_LyEoo-00095-00019344-00019599 with restaurant writing and criticism kaViC_LyEoo-00096-00019600-00019807 so let me introduce them to you first kaViC_LyEoo-00097-00019808-00019958 we've got lagai michonne kaViC_LyEoo-00098-00019959-00020127 lagaya writes for the new york times and kaViC_LyEoo-00099-00020128-00020358 tea magazine her writing which is on kaViC_LyEoo-00100-00020359-00020407 food kaViC_LyEoo-00101-00020408-00020630 travel and much more it encompasses kaViC_LyEoo-00102-00020631-00020750 things like gout kaViC_LyEoo-00103-00020751-00021014 how to fix the food system and what they kaViC_LyEoo-00104-00021015-00021175 eat in the arctic kaViC_LyEoo-00105-00021176-00021343 she's been shortlisted for many awards kaViC_LyEoo-00106-00021344-00021647 for her writing she is also kaViC_LyEoo-00107-00021648-00021839 doing criticism for the new yorker and kaViC_LyEoo-00108-00021840-00022039 the new york review of books kaViC_LyEoo-00109-00022040-00022230 she's currently co-authoring a book kaViC_LyEoo-00110-00022231-00022414 called philippine x kaViC_LyEoo-00111-00022415-00022711 heritage recipes from the diaspora and kaViC_LyEoo-00112-00022712-00022911 compiling her own essays so that's kaViC_LyEoo-00113-00022912-00023030 incredibly exciting kaViC_LyEoo-00114-00023031-00023294 welcome lagaya next up we've got jimmy kaViC_LyEoo-00115-00023295-00023439 famour kaViC_LyEoo-00116-00023440-00023799 jimmy writes for gq the guardian and kaViC_LyEoo-00117-00023800-00023919 wired in the uk kaViC_LyEoo-00118-00023920-00024207 his main job and it's a whopping one is kaViC_LyEoo-00119-00024208-00024311 to be the restaurant critic for the kaViC_LyEoo-00120-00024312-00024422 evening standard kaViC_LyEoo-00121-00024423-00024614 jimmy took over when the joanne of kaViC_LyEoo-00122-00024615-00024783 restaurant critics faye marshall kaViC_LyEoo-00123-00024784-00025047 stepped down he is also a guest judge on kaViC_LyEoo-00124-00025048-00025199 masterchef uk kaViC_LyEoo-00125-00025200-00025494 and hosts a podcast for waitrose called kaViC_LyEoo-00126-00025495-00025646 life on a plate kaViC_LyEoo-00127-00025647-00025839 so jimmy is all across everything that's kaViC_LyEoo-00128-00025839-00026006 happening and moving and shaking in the kaViC_LyEoo-00129-00026007-00026183 london restaurant scene kaViC_LyEoo-00130-00026183-00026502 next up we've got nick lander nick kaViC_LyEoo-00131-00026504-00026670 has been the restaurant correspondent kaViC_LyEoo-00132-00026672-00026807 for the financial times kaViC_LyEoo-00133-00026808-00027158 for a whopping 33 years uh before he kaViC_LyEoo-00134-00027160-00027527 took over doing that in 1988 he bought kaViC_LyEoo-00135-00027527-00027839 and then sold the fabled soho restaurant kaViC_LyEoo-00136-00027839-00027918 lescargo kaViC_LyEoo-00137-00027919-00028190 so he knows about things from both sides kaViC_LyEoo-00138-00028191-00028390 he wrote a seminal title called the art kaViC_LyEoo-00139-00028391-00028662 of the restaurateur in 2012 kaViC_LyEoo-00140-00028663-00028927 and he followed that up in 2016 with a kaViC_LyEoo-00141-00028927-00028983 book kaViC_LyEoo-00142-00028983-00029214 which he describes as being about the kaViC_LyEoo-00143-00029216-00029383 world's favorite bit of paper kaViC_LyEoo-00144-00029383-00029727 of course it's on the menu kaViC_LyEoo-00145-00029727-00030014 nick is also a consultant to hospitality kaViC_LyEoo-00146-00030016-00030079 developers kaViC_LyEoo-00147-00030080-00030383 he's worked on the hospitality part of kaViC_LyEoo-00148-00030383-00030679 all sorts of arts establishments kaViC_LyEoo-00149-00030680-00031046 pancras kings cross and more so kaViC_LyEoo-00150-00031047-00031239 as i mentioned they really are um the kaViC_LyEoo-00151-00031239-00031399 best people to kaViC_LyEoo-00152-00031400-00031583 guide us through tonight uh we will kaViC_LyEoo-00153-00031583-00031711 leave time at the end kaViC_LyEoo-00154-00031712-00031887 for questions so please keep them coming kaViC_LyEoo-00155-00031888-00032118 in and uh we'll we'll leave some time at kaViC_LyEoo-00156-00032119-00032167 the end kaViC_LyEoo-00157-00032168-00032383 it's a huge subject we'll do our best to kaViC_LyEoo-00158-00032383-00032607 cover a multitude of facets of kaViC_LyEoo-00159-00032608-00032727 restaurant writing and restaurant kaViC_LyEoo-00160-00032727-00032855 criticism kaViC_LyEoo-00161-00032856-00033111 so let's get started i think probably kaViC_LyEoo-00162-00033112-00033295 where to start with this huge subject is kaViC_LyEoo-00163-00033296-00033439 the word criticism kaViC_LyEoo-00164-00033440-00033727 criticism suggests negativity but of kaViC_LyEoo-00165-00033728-00033831 course people who write about kaViC_LyEoo-00166-00033832-00033959 restaurants and review them love kaViC_LyEoo-00167-00033960-00034071 restaurants kaViC_LyEoo-00168-00034072-00034295 there's nothing finer so i want to ask kaViC_LyEoo-00169-00034296-00034502 each of the panelists kaViC_LyEoo-00170-00034503-00034695 is the job of a critic to put the food kaViC_LyEoo-00171-00034696-00034895 that they're eating in a wider context kaViC_LyEoo-00172-00034896-00035007 for the readers kaViC_LyEoo-00173-00035008-00035183 or is it to tell people where to go for kaViC_LyEoo-00174-00035184-00035351 their tea kaViC_LyEoo-00175-00035352-00035711 let's start with nick well i've never kaViC_LyEoo-00176-00035712-00035767 liked kaViC_LyEoo-00177-00035768-00036079 the phrase restaurant critic uh i think kaViC_LyEoo-00178-00036080-00036111 it's kaViC_LyEoo-00179-00036112-00036439 negative as you've said and i just think kaViC_LyEoo-00180-00036440-00036615 it's quite kaViC_LyEoo-00181-00036616-00036911 it's quite narrowing it means you're kaViC_LyEoo-00182-00036912-00037087 concentrating on just what's on the kaViC_LyEoo-00183-00037088-00037190 plate kaViC_LyEoo-00184-00037191-00037383 and you don't get a chance to explain kaViC_LyEoo-00185-00037384-00037551 anything else and i think it's the kaViC_LyEoo-00186-00037552-00037679 everything else kaViC_LyEoo-00187-00037680-00037846 it's the context of the restaurant of kaViC_LyEoo-00188-00037847-00038023 course the food has to be good kaViC_LyEoo-00189-00038024-00038159 but there's one other point i'd like to kaViC_LyEoo-00190-00038160-00038390 make and that is kaViC_LyEoo-00191-00038391-00038702 i can't remember the last time i had a kaViC_LyEoo-00192-00038703-00038895 bad meal kaViC_LyEoo-00193-00038896-00039143 i think standards of cooking and kaViC_LyEoo-00194-00039144-00039335 standards of service kaViC_LyEoo-00195-00039336-00039671 have risen so high across the uk anyway kaViC_LyEoo-00196-00039672-00039830 that actually you can't get away with kaViC_LyEoo-00197-00039831-00040087 anything sub normal i don't know if it's kaViC_LyEoo-00198-00040088-00040167 the same kaViC_LyEoo-00199-00040168-00040527 in new york lagaya but in england kaViC_LyEoo-00200-00040528-00040630 certainly in london kaViC_LyEoo-00201-00040631-00040879 and most of the places outside london as kaViC_LyEoo-00202-00040880-00041007 well kaViC_LyEoo-00203-00041008-00041318 the quality really is fantastic kaViC_LyEoo-00204-00041319-00041543 and i think that's another reason for kaViC_LyEoo-00205-00041544-00041927 saying no to the term restaurant critic kaViC_LyEoo-00206-00041928-00042079 interesting i think you're picking kaViC_LyEoo-00207-00042080-00042271 wisely because i know that not kaViC_LyEoo-00208-00042272-00042367 everywhere would kaViC_LyEoo-00209-00042368-00042502 people watching might be saying i had a kaViC_LyEoo-00210-00042503-00042662 terrible meal last night but maybe kaViC_LyEoo-00211-00042663-00042727 they're kaViC_LyEoo-00212-00042728-00042958 all over on tripadvisor um but yes kaViC_LyEoo-00213-00042959-00043062 chosen wisely kaViC_LyEoo-00214-00043063-00043230 it's a it's a rich subject with lots kaViC_LyEoo-00215-00043231-00043399 more than food jimmy kaViC_LyEoo-00216-00043400-00043567 where do you stand is it telling people kaViC_LyEoo-00217-00043568-00043718 where to go or is it telling them about kaViC_LyEoo-00218-00043719-00043902 the whole kaViC_LyEoo-00219-00043903-00044158 ecosystem of restaurants i think i think kaViC_LyEoo-00220-00044159-00044262 ideally kaViC_LyEoo-00221-00044263-00044623 you're hoping to do it both to kaViC_LyEoo-00222-00044624-00044887 inform people and arm them give them a kaViC_LyEoo-00223-00044888-00045095 sense of what to order kaViC_LyEoo-00224-00045096-00045358 a sense of what the experience is like kaViC_LyEoo-00225-00045359-00045471 but then i do kaViC_LyEoo-00226-00045472-00045807 definitely think about the context and kaViC_LyEoo-00227-00045808-00046095 the wider framework and you know i've kaViC_LyEoo-00228-00046096-00046358 been a critic in other mediums i've kaViC_LyEoo-00229-00046359-00046479 written about film kaViC_LyEoo-00230-00046480-00046743 and tv and music and things like that kaViC_LyEoo-00231-00046744-00046815 and kaViC_LyEoo-00232-00046816-00047039 it's strange restaurant writing does kaViC_LyEoo-00233-00047040-00047207 feel distinct but kaViC_LyEoo-00234-00047208-00047511 i think if i've ever thought about it kaViC_LyEoo-00235-00047512-00047630 that word critic kaViC_LyEoo-00236-00047631-00047927 is an attempt to put um writing about kaViC_LyEoo-00237-00047928-00048071 food on the same kaViC_LyEoo-00238-00048072-00048383 level as um arts criticism and she you kaViC_LyEoo-00239-00048384-00048535 know to write about kaViC_LyEoo-00240-00048536-00048767 um you know to approach a restaurant the kaViC_LyEoo-00241-00048768-00048839 way you would kaViC_LyEoo-00242-00048840-00049071 kind of a new album or a new film in kaViC_LyEoo-00243-00049072-00049239 that you're trying to put it in the kaViC_LyEoo-00244-00049240-00049471 context of what it's trying to achieve kaViC_LyEoo-00245-00049472-00049807 how successful it is um and kaViC_LyEoo-00246-00049808-00050167 kind of evaluating it based on that um kaViC_LyEoo-00247-00050168-00050479 but you're also i think trying to kaViC_LyEoo-00248-00050480-00050646 or i certainly am and this is kind of kaViC_LyEoo-00249-00050647-00050823 what i've just kind of gleaned from kaViC_LyEoo-00250-00050824-00051007 being a fan of restaurant writing before kaViC_LyEoo-00251-00051008-00051102 i was actually kaViC_LyEoo-00252-00051103-00051407 writing about um these places myself is kaViC_LyEoo-00253-00051408-00051502 to just kind of give kaViC_LyEoo-00254-00051503-00051790 people a sense of what it's like like a kaViC_LyEoo-00255-00051791-00051950 real atmospheric kaViC_LyEoo-00256-00051951-00052223 you know put them in the room as it were kaViC_LyEoo-00257-00052224-00052390 and that's kind of always the thing that kaViC_LyEoo-00258-00052391-00052575 goes hand in hand and i guess kaViC_LyEoo-00259-00052576-00052807 based on that people can make make a kaViC_LyEoo-00260-00052808-00052982 judgment about whether it's a place for kaViC_LyEoo-00261-00052983-00053247 them or not kaViC_LyEoo-00262-00053248-00053463 cool um the guy i mean you're you know kaViC_LyEoo-00263-00053464-00053615 you're a critic but you also you write kaViC_LyEoo-00264-00053616-00053807 on restaurants you write on on the food kaViC_LyEoo-00265-00053808-00053935 scene in a slightly kaViC_LyEoo-00266-00053936-00054326 different way so how much of what you do kaViC_LyEoo-00267-00054327-00054526 is about telling people about the meal kaViC_LyEoo-00268-00054527-00054663 on the plate and how much of it is kaViC_LyEoo-00269-00054664-00054903 is about everything around that kaViC_LyEoo-00270-00054904-00055087 experience kaViC_LyEoo-00271-00055088-00055279 i think that uh i think it's two really kaViC_LyEoo-00272-00055279-00055430 different kinds of writing i tend to kaViC_LyEoo-00273-00055432-00055535 think about kaViC_LyEoo-00274-00055536-00055726 the restaurant reviews as service kaViC_LyEoo-00275-00055727-00055950 journalism to some extent which is kaViC_LyEoo-00276-00055951-00056223 um on even some a very practical level kaViC_LyEoo-00277-00056224-00056366 my very first editor kaViC_LyEoo-00278-00056367-00056671 in in the field said i have to know do kaViC_LyEoo-00279-00056672-00056966 do i get to do i seat myself do i go and kaViC_LyEoo-00280-00056967-00057030 pick up kaViC_LyEoo-00281-00057032-00057247 the food at the counter i i need to know kaViC_LyEoo-00282-00057248-00057366 this information it's not kaViC_LyEoo-00283-00057367-00057550 the stuff of poetry but it's the kaViC_LyEoo-00284-00057551-00057687 practical details kaViC_LyEoo-00285-00057688-00057894 um so i feel like with each restaurant kaViC_LyEoo-00286-00057895-00058047 i'm even and i have a slightly different kaViC_LyEoo-00287-00058048-00058159 brief because kaViC_LyEoo-00288-00058160-00058438 i i don't review fancy places i'm kaViC_LyEoo-00289-00058439-00058591 reviewing holes in the wall kaViC_LyEoo-00290-00058591-00058775 i'm moving places where i'm not going i kaViC_LyEoo-00291-00058776-00058926 don't ever need to be negative kaViC_LyEoo-00292-00058927-00059094 if if i go to a place and i had a bad kaViC_LyEoo-00293-00059095-00059279 meal i wouldn't write about it kaViC_LyEoo-00294-00059279-00059479 so i'm really lucky in that way all of kaViC_LyEoo-00295-00059479-00059615 my writing kaViC_LyEoo-00296-00059616-00059775 in my restaurant views is essentially kaViC_LyEoo-00297-00059776-00059982 celebratory in that sense because i'm kaViC_LyEoo-00298-00059983-00060159 writing about you know kaViC_LyEoo-00299-00060160-00060287 you know people immigrants to our kaViC_LyEoo-00300-00060288-00060494 country who are struggling and like kaViC_LyEoo-00301-00060495-00060671 this is their dream and putting this is kaViC_LyEoo-00302-00060672-00060838 how they're supporting their families so kaViC_LyEoo-00303-00060839-00060903 it's always kaViC_LyEoo-00304-00060904-00061087 it's always a great story to also know kaViC_LyEoo-00305-00061088-00061223 how they got there and kaViC_LyEoo-00306-00061224-00061494 um just to think about how new york city kaViC_LyEoo-00307-00061495-00061679 is just made up of all of these lives kaViC_LyEoo-00308-00061679-00061854 and this is what makes our city kaViC_LyEoo-00309-00061855-00062079 great um but in the other kinds of kaViC_LyEoo-00310-00062079-00062350 writing that's where i feel like i bring kaViC_LyEoo-00311-00062351-00062575 this more critical eye of thinking about kaViC_LyEoo-00312-00062576-00062742 what are the systems kaViC_LyEoo-00313-00062744-00062879 you know how did all these restaurants kaViC_LyEoo-00314-00062879-00063079 fit into this larger system and kaViC_LyEoo-00315-00063079-00063303 um all these different issues of the kaViC_LyEoo-00316-00063304-00063463 issues of labor and then legacies of kaViC_LyEoo-00317-00063464-00063630 colonialism and who gets to cook what kaViC_LyEoo-00318-00063632-00063823 kinds of food or sell what kinds of food kaViC_LyEoo-00319-00063824-00063854 and kaViC_LyEoo-00320-00063855-00064079 who has access to the public relations kaViC_LyEoo-00321-00064079-00064223 to have their restaurants out in the kaViC_LyEoo-00322-00064224-00064271 public kaViC_LyEoo-00323-00064272-00064415 so i do think those are really important kaViC_LyEoo-00324-00064416-00064542 questions but i'm not sure that a kaViC_LyEoo-00325-00064544-00064654 restaurant review can kaViC_LyEoo-00326-00064655-00065063 bear all the weight of that thinking kaViC_LyEoo-00327-00065064-00065199 well we'll definitely come back to that kaViC_LyEoo-00328-00065200-00065399 subject in more detail um kaViC_LyEoo-00329-00065400-00065503 the end of what you were saying there kaViC_LyEoo-00330-00065504-00065726 but i guess thinking about the first kaViC_LyEoo-00331-00065727-00065847 part of what you said and also about kaViC_LyEoo-00332-00065848-00066038 jimmy and nick um do you kaViC_LyEoo-00333-00066039-00066367 as as critics uh feel a responsibility kaViC_LyEoo-00334-00066368-00066575 in your writing and if so who's that too kaViC_LyEoo-00335-00066576-00066791 is is it to the reader is it to the kaViC_LyEoo-00336-00066792-00066935 audience is it to the person who might kaViC_LyEoo-00337-00066936-00067063 be going out to spend kaViC_LyEoo-00338-00067064-00067415 25 or 145 pounds on a meal do you have kaViC_LyEoo-00339-00067416-00067599 any responsibility to the restaurants kaViC_LyEoo-00340-00067600-00067726 you know do you feel if you write a kaViC_LyEoo-00341-00067727-00067950 review of someone and say it's a shocker kaViC_LyEoo-00342-00067951-00068343 um kaViC_LyEoo-00343-00068344-00068575 okay but i was going to say particularly kaViC_LyEoo-00344-00068576-00068750 in in where we are right now kaViC_LyEoo-00345-00068751-00069047 um obviously restaurants weren't open to kaViC_LyEoo-00346-00069048-00069111 be kaViC_LyEoo-00347-00069112-00069294 critiqued for a long time but in the kaViC_LyEoo-00348-00069295-00069431 post-pandemic kaViC_LyEoo-00349-00069432-00069726 scene do you feel a responsibility to to kaViC_LyEoo-00350-00069727-00069791 them kaViC_LyEoo-00351-00069792-00069935 nick you've made your feelings clear you kaViC_LyEoo-00352-00069936-00070111 don't think any responsibility to the kaViC_LyEoo-00353-00070112-00070375 to the restaurants jimmy what about you kaViC_LyEoo-00354-00070376-00070438 um kaViC_LyEoo-00355-00070439-00070771 i i'm just trying to think uh kaViC_LyEoo-00356-00070772-00071071 responsibility's an interesting one i kaViC_LyEoo-00357-00071072-00071382 i do think on a kind of really almost kaViC_LyEoo-00358-00071383-00071487 like on a personal kaViC_LyEoo-00359-00071488-00071679 anecdotal level like if i'm in a kaViC_LyEoo-00360-00071680-00071799 restaurant kaViC_LyEoo-00361-00071800-00072047 um the times that i've kind of been kaViC_LyEoo-00362-00072048-00072150 moved to kaViC_LyEoo-00363-00072151-00072438 to be negative or be honest about an kaViC_LyEoo-00364-00072439-00072543 experience that kaViC_LyEoo-00365-00072544-00072879 wasn't pleasurable or wasn't good value kaViC_LyEoo-00366-00072880-00073111 the thing that's kind of like prompted kaViC_LyEoo-00367-00073112-00073294 me has been the notion that kaViC_LyEoo-00368-00073295-00073535 people go out and they spend money and kaViC_LyEoo-00369-00073536-00073743 they get a babysitter and they do all kaViC_LyEoo-00370-00073744-00073894 these things and kaViC_LyEoo-00371-00073895-00074094 they're gonna get an experience that's kaViC_LyEoo-00372-00074095-00074287 subpar and that kind of idea of having kaViC_LyEoo-00373-00074288-00074471 to convince yourself that kaViC_LyEoo-00374-00074472-00074599 you're having a good time because kaViC_LyEoo-00375-00074600-00074767 there's almost too much riding on it so kaViC_LyEoo-00376-00074768-00074887 that's probably kaViC_LyEoo-00377-00074888-00075311 like less in terms of thinking of of um kaViC_LyEoo-00378-00075312-00075615 a specific target for kaViC_LyEoo-00379-00075616-00075799 or people that i need to kind of keep in kaViC_LyEoo-00380-00075800-00075967 mind when i'm writing it's kaViC_LyEoo-00381-00075968-00076279 it's more that that honesty that i'm kaViC_LyEoo-00382-00076280-00076462 hopefully aiming for but then kaViC_LyEoo-00383-00076463-00076679 you know as i've said before it's it's kaViC_LyEoo-00384-00076680-00076935 interesting to hear a guy talk about kaViC_LyEoo-00385-00076936-00077238 that kind of celebratory um approach and kaViC_LyEoo-00386-00077239-00077399 and it feels like kaViC_LyEoo-00387-00077400-00077519 throughout this past year of the kaViC_LyEoo-00388-00077520-00077703 pandemic it feels like a lot of food kaViC_LyEoo-00389-00077704-00077871 writing has kind of been more about that kaViC_LyEoo-00390-00077872-00078094 and restaurant writing especially is kaViC_LyEoo-00391-00078095-00078367 has kind of pivoted as everything else kaViC_LyEoo-00392-00078368-00078526 has pivoted to her kaViC_LyEoo-00393-00078527-00078767 being less about that grading and more kaViC_LyEoo-00394-00078768-00078943 kind of here's a really good experience kaViC_LyEoo-00395-00078944-00079062 or here's something kaViC_LyEoo-00396-00079063-00079294 exciting or interesting that's happening kaViC_LyEoo-00397-00079295-00079479 go here and then the things that kaViC_LyEoo-00398-00079480-00079679 that aren't good and i've definitely you kaViC_LyEoo-00399-00079680-00079911 know had things that are not good happen kaViC_LyEoo-00400-00079912-00080199 recently and and uh throughout this last kaViC_LyEoo-00401-00080200-00080350 year you don't really write about them kaViC_LyEoo-00402-00080351-00080615 or you try to accentuate the positive kaViC_LyEoo-00403-00080616-00080806 yeah i mean look oh it's interesting you kaViC_LyEoo-00404-00080807-00080999 you know you're saying your beat is kaViC_LyEoo-00405-00081000-00081271 quite a lot about the um the unsung kaViC_LyEoo-00406-00081272-00081399 restaurants the lesser-known ones kaViC_LyEoo-00407-00081400-00081567 but if you write about a little hole in kaViC_LyEoo-00408-00081568-00081743 the wool place and you publish that in kaViC_LyEoo-00409-00081744-00081879 the new york times kaViC_LyEoo-00410-00081880-00082182 you know that can have such a i imagine kaViC_LyEoo-00411-00082183-00082206 an kaViC_LyEoo-00412-00082207-00082479 enormous um effect and perhaps sometimes kaViC_LyEoo-00413-00082480-00082615 could be almost overwhelming for kaViC_LyEoo-00414-00082616-00082855 a small operation so do you you know are kaViC_LyEoo-00415-00082856-00082999 you conscious of that in kaViC_LyEoo-00416-00083000-00083111 where you choose to go and how you kaViC_LyEoo-00417-00083112-00083375 choose to write kaViC_LyEoo-00418-00083376-00083623 i definitely think that i have a kaViC_LyEoo-00419-00083624-00083862 responsibility not to over praise kaViC_LyEoo-00420-00083863-00084118 so i i really have tried to frame the kaViC_LyEoo-00421-00084119-00084206 column over the kaViC_LyEoo-00422-00084207-00084550 years as these are places where not kaViC_LyEoo-00423-00084551-00084703 everything is going to be perfect kaViC_LyEoo-00424-00084704-00084838 i i don't you can't have that kaViC_LyEoo-00425-00084839-00085006 expectation it's one thing to take down kaViC_LyEoo-00426-00085007-00085038 an kaViC_LyEoo-00427-00085039-00085262 incredibly expensive restaurant where kaViC_LyEoo-00428-00085263-00085455 yes you saved up all year and it's your kaViC_LyEoo-00429-00085456-00085638 anniversary and they ruined it kaViC_LyEoo-00430-00085639-00085894 um but you know these little places kaViC_LyEoo-00431-00085895-00086143 there may be only one truly great dish kaViC_LyEoo-00432-00086144-00086262 and that's the dish i'm gonna write kaViC_LyEoo-00433-00086263-00086511 about you know um so kaViC_LyEoo-00434-00086512-00086750 i really think about it because in some kaViC_LyEoo-00435-00086751-00086871 cases there have been times when i've kaViC_LyEoo-00436-00086872-00086967 been about a place kaViC_LyEoo-00437-00086968-00087223 and then the landlord raises their rent kaViC_LyEoo-00438-00087224-00087359 because suddenly kaViC_LyEoo-00439-00087360-00087479 they're famous and they're getting kaViC_LyEoo-00440-00087480-00087671 business and then they've had to close kaViC_LyEoo-00441-00087672-00087847 so a lot of restaurants i've written kaViC_LyEoo-00442-00087848-00088055 about have closed over the years i hope kaViC_LyEoo-00443-00088056-00088343 that i've not contributed every case kaViC_LyEoo-00444-00088344-00088511 that really breaks my heart kaViC_LyEoo-00445-00088512-00088718 um i also know that there are times when kaViC_LyEoo-00446-00088719-00088855 i you know i always when i'm fact kaViC_LyEoo-00447-00088856-00088926 checking and i kaViC_LyEoo-00448-00088927-00089126 i call the chefs or the owners of the kaViC_LyEoo-00449-00089127-00089326 restaurants and talk to them kaViC_LyEoo-00450-00089327-00089582 when it means so much to them they're kaViC_LyEoo-00451-00089583-00089759 not expecting to be reviewed you know kaViC_LyEoo-00452-00089760-00089967 nobody has my picture on a wall nobody's kaViC_LyEoo-00453-00089968-00090062 looking out kaViC_LyEoo-00454-00090063-00090382 um and it can change their lives for the kaViC_LyEoo-00455-00090383-00090455 better so i'm kaViC_LyEoo-00456-00090456-00090655 i'm also aware of that and i have had kaViC_LyEoo-00457-00090656-00090815 just as one little last night i have kaViC_LyEoo-00458-00090816-00091135 had once the son of a chef kaViC_LyEoo-00459-00091136-00091311 called me to say my mother is worried kaViC_LyEoo-00460-00091312-00091455 that you didn't really like this one kaViC_LyEoo-00461-00091456-00091638 dish i've written a very positive review kaViC_LyEoo-00462-00091639-00091671 but kaViC_LyEoo-00463-00091672-00091982 perhaps my wording on one of the dishes kaViC_LyEoo-00464-00091983-00092167 because i didn't want to oversell was a kaViC_LyEoo-00465-00092168-00092311 little bit less and she kaViC_LyEoo-00466-00092312-00092479 he said she wants to make it again for kaViC_LyEoo-00467-00092480-00092782 you and i said no no no no kaViC_LyEoo-00468-00092783-00093126 it's all fine it was great it was a kaViC_LyEoo-00469-00093127-00093431 jewish restaurant it wasn't but uh it kaViC_LyEoo-00470-00093432-00093606 was kaViC_LyEoo-00471-00093607-00093831 um actually it was so interesting it was kaViC_LyEoo-00472-00093832-00094103 a it was a koryo saram restaurant kaViC_LyEoo-00473-00094104-00094487 which is this korean group in the far kaViC_LyEoo-00474-00094488-00094623 east of russia kaViC_LyEoo-00475-00094624-00094999 or who just you know were deported there kaViC_LyEoo-00476-00095000-00095287 during under stalin i mean a fascinating kaViC_LyEoo-00477-00095288-00095367 story and kaViC_LyEoo-00478-00095368-00095526 that was what i wrote about mostly and i kaViC_LyEoo-00479-00095527-00095694 was like no no this this kaViC_LyEoo-00480-00095695-00096143 dish of bracken was beautiful i loved it kaViC_LyEoo-00481-00096144-00096382 the right to reply is something that uh kaViC_LyEoo-00482-00096383-00096567 is i think always a vexed question when kaViC_LyEoo-00483-00096568-00096711 um certainly when i was reviewing i had kaViC_LyEoo-00484-00096712-00096806 a few kaViC_LyEoo-00485-00096807-00096999 you know letters and emails saying you kaViC_LyEoo-00486-00097000-00097182 know come back and try it again kaViC_LyEoo-00487-00097183-00097406 you know or something possibly even less kaViC_LyEoo-00488-00097407-00097559 polite um kaViC_LyEoo-00489-00097560-00097718 it's it's definitely quite difficult kaViC_LyEoo-00490-00097719-00097871 because you do have to base a lot on on kaViC_LyEoo-00491-00097872-00098055 one meal i mean certainly in the uk kaViC_LyEoo-00492-00098056-00098247 i mean i know that um you know in this kaViC_LyEoo-00493-00098248-00098423 sort of halcyon days of restaurant kaViC_LyEoo-00494-00098424-00098599 criticism certainly in america people kaViC_LyEoo-00495-00098600-00098655 might go kaViC_LyEoo-00496-00098656-00098926 three four times um here we really you kaViC_LyEoo-00497-00098927-00099087 know you you have one shot kaViC_LyEoo-00498-00099088-00099399 um so yeah there's a lot of pressure um kaViC_LyEoo-00499-00099400-00099687 i want to move on to something we just kaViC_LyEoo-00500-00099688-00099806 touched on there about kaViC_LyEoo-00501-00099807-00100143 which restaurants we we you choose to kaViC_LyEoo-00502-00100144-00100455 uh review because you know there's a kaViC_LyEoo-00503-00100456-00100574 shift away kaViC_LyEoo-00504-00100575-00100703 and some would say we're not going far kaViC_LyEoo-00505-00100704-00100823 enough and some would say it's very kaViC_LyEoo-00506-00100824-00100903 overdue kaViC_LyEoo-00507-00100904-00101206 away from the pr-led western-centric kaViC_LyEoo-00508-00101207-00101399 cuisines the the kind of classic kaViC_LyEoo-00509-00101400-00101535 restaurants and and the ones that we get kaViC_LyEoo-00510-00101536-00101623 to hear about because kaViC_LyEoo-00511-00101624-00101887 there's a lot of money behind them that kaViC_LyEoo-00512-00101888-00102015 brings with it as kaViC_LyEoo-00513-00102016-00102243 another whole aspect of responsibility kaViC_LyEoo-00514-00102244-00102374 [Music] kaViC_LyEoo-00515-00102375-00102654 perhaps understanding of a different way kaViC_LyEoo-00516-00102655-00102742 a new kaViC_LyEoo-00517-00102743-00103054 way i'm kaViC_LyEoo-00518-00103055-00103351 really interested in how you each can kaViC_LyEoo-00519-00103352-00103486 tackle that kaViC_LyEoo-00520-00103488-00103815 because we all work for some legacy kaViC_LyEoo-00521-00103816-00103918 media you know which kaViC_LyEoo-00522-00103919-00104071 has a certain audience and perhaps kaViC_LyEoo-00523-00104072-00104239 that's you know one has to keep that in kaViC_LyEoo-00524-00104240-00104334 mind when you think about what you're kaViC_LyEoo-00525-00104335-00104439 writing what you're choosing to write kaViC_LyEoo-00526-00104440-00104502 about kaViC_LyEoo-00527-00104503-00104775 but to get away from from the the ones kaViC_LyEoo-00528-00104776-00104839 that are being kaViC_LyEoo-00529-00104840-00105166 spoon-fed to us um requires a different kaViC_LyEoo-00530-00105167-00105327 mindset jimmy pepsi you could come to kaViC_LyEoo-00531-00105328-00105447 that first and just kaViC_LyEoo-00532-00105448-00105847 just talk to that idea of how do you kaViC_LyEoo-00533-00105848-00106143 get away from how do you choose the kaViC_LyEoo-00534-00106144-00106207 places kaViC_LyEoo-00535-00106208-00106310 that are going to be different i mean kaViC_LyEoo-00536-00106311-00106431 for instance last weekend you reviewed a kaViC_LyEoo-00537-00106432-00106534 restaurant which kaViC_LyEoo-00538-00106535-00106719 last week which two other big critics kaViC_LyEoo-00539-00106720-00106871 reviewed on the same kaViC_LyEoo-00540-00106872-00106999 in the same week because there was a big kaViC_LyEoo-00541-00107000-00107143 man you can't really help that but at kaViC_LyEoo-00542-00107144-00107231 the same time kaViC_LyEoo-00543-00107232-00107366 how can we get away from that that's a kaViC_LyEoo-00544-00107367-00107543 real talking point i think at the moment kaViC_LyEoo-00545-00107544-00107823 yeah completely and i i guess it's even kaViC_LyEoo-00546-00107824-00108071 it's probably amplified by the situation kaViC_LyEoo-00547-00108072-00108151 with kaViC_LyEoo-00548-00108152-00108431 uh reopening and there not being as many kaViC_LyEoo-00549-00108432-00108583 places and kind of you know there's kaViC_LyEoo-00550-00108583-00108734 it's all sort of concentrated in the kaViC_LyEoo-00551-00108735-00108983 same areas but um but yeah i think your kaViC_LyEoo-00552-00108983-00109119 point about kaViC_LyEoo-00553-00109120-00109354 um being long overdue the kind of kaViC_LyEoo-00554-00109355-00109566 conversations and kaViC_LyEoo-00555-00109567-00109910 um the the changes and i feel like i am kaViC_LyEoo-00556-00109911-00110215 seeing a concerted effort from kaViC_LyEoo-00557-00110216-00110527 other critics as well to to try and kaViC_LyEoo-00558-00110528-00110751 and highlight those places that are off kaViC_LyEoo-00559-00110752-00110854 the that kaViC_LyEoo-00560-00110855-00111199 as you say it's so kaViC_LyEoo-00561-00111200-00111566 easy for everything to be modern british kaViC_LyEoo-00562-00111567-00111686 modern european kaViC_LyEoo-00563-00111688-00112063 french leaning and so so easy for that kaViC_LyEoo-00564-00112064-00112199 to be viewed as kaViC_LyEoo-00565-00112200-00112415 the default that you should always kind kaViC_LyEoo-00566-00112416-00112686 of everything should retract back to and kaViC_LyEoo-00567-00112688-00112919 anything else if you do a west african kaViC_LyEoo-00568-00112920-00112999 uh kaViC_LyEoo-00569-00113000-00113263 restaurant or a singaporean place then kaViC_LyEoo-00570-00113264-00113463 that's a kind of little special kaViC_LyEoo-00571-00113464-00113766 treat that you know one a month or kaViC_LyEoo-00572-00113767-00113878 something so kaViC_LyEoo-00573-00113879-00114151 i i do feel like things are improving kaViC_LyEoo-00574-00114152-00114263 whether they're improving sort of kaViC_LyEoo-00575-00114264-00114399 quickly enough is kaViC_LyEoo-00576-00114400-00114647 is up for debate i'd say one one thing kaViC_LyEoo-00577-00114648-00114758 that i would kaViC_LyEoo-00578-00114759-00114999 it's it's always something that i'm kaViC_LyEoo-00579-00115000-00115223 striving to do that i'm kind of kaViC_LyEoo-00580-00115224-00115431 you mentioned the restaurant this week kaViC_LyEoo-00581-00115432-00115631 that was obviously a big opening or last kaViC_LyEoo-00582-00115632-00115702 week was it kaViC_LyEoo-00583-00115703-00115847 there was a big opening that other kaViC_LyEoo-00584-00115848-00116071 critics covered but like you know i'm kaViC_LyEoo-00585-00116072-00116166 trying to kaViC_LyEoo-00586-00116167-00116310 you know a couple of weeks before that kaViC_LyEoo-00587-00116311-00116510 it was a caribbean place on the south kaViC_LyEoo-00588-00116511-00116783 bank that i was really sort of kaViC_LyEoo-00589-00116783-00117078 you know i it's been what's been really kaViC_LyEoo-00590-00117079-00117286 good particularly as you know kaViC_LyEoo-00591-00117288-00117615 a black food critic has been kaViC_LyEoo-00592-00117616-00117871 to have these conversations have had kaViC_LyEoo-00593-00117872-00117999 have happened kaViC_LyEoo-00594-00118000-00118271 and to be able to kind of you know have kaViC_LyEoo-00595-00118272-00118431 these conversations in the open a little kaViC_LyEoo-00596-00118432-00118671 bit more and kind of kaViC_LyEoo-00597-00118672-00118958 it feels it feels like things could kaViC_LyEoo-00598-00118959-00119166 still improve but we're not kaViC_LyEoo-00599-00119167-00119334 somewhat healthier place in terms of kaViC_LyEoo-00600-00119335-00119510 being able to say kaViC_LyEoo-00601-00119511-00119678 i think we really need to cover this kaViC_LyEoo-00602-00119679-00119823 restaurant and kaViC_LyEoo-00603-00119824-00120007 you know it's it's kind of a bit more kaViC_LyEoo-00604-00120008-00120151 out in the open where as i'd say you kaViC_LyEoo-00605-00120152-00120286 know a couple of years ago it was kind kaViC_LyEoo-00606-00120288-00120358 of kaViC_LyEoo-00607-00120359-00120647 um i don't know there's there's a kaViC_LyEoo-00608-00120648-00120727 there's a kaViC_LyEoo-00609-00120728-00120895 there's almost like a shutting out by kaViC_LyEoo-00610-00120896-00121031 stealth because kaViC_LyEoo-00611-00121032-00121175 just because of the presentation of the kaViC_LyEoo-00612-00121176-00121366 magazines quite often kaViC_LyEoo-00613-00121367-00121654 or newspapers and there's a there's kaViC_LyEoo-00614-00121655-00121983 advertisers and there's a kind of um kaViC_LyEoo-00615-00121983-00122110 there's a gloss kaViC_LyEoo-00616-00122111-00122334 uh particularly in the uk that kind of kaViC_LyEoo-00617-00122335-00122510 goes hand in hand with with food and kaViC_LyEoo-00618-00122511-00122654 restaurant coverage kaViC_LyEoo-00619-00122655-00122999 and i i think one other point that kaViC_LyEoo-00620-00123000-00123207 i'd love to see one other thing i'd love kaViC_LyEoo-00621-00123208-00123351 to see kind of kaViC_LyEoo-00622-00123352-00123558 almost introduced a little bit more is kaViC_LyEoo-00623-00123559-00123823 maybe just a little bit more variety and kaViC_LyEoo-00624-00123824-00123951 boldness in terms of how we're kaViC_LyEoo-00625-00123952-00124175 presenting this stuff because kaViC_LyEoo-00626-00124176-00124471 if it is all about you know beautiful kaViC_LyEoo-00627-00124472-00124575 shots and kaViC_LyEoo-00628-00124576-00124758 people that are pr savvy and social kaViC_LyEoo-00629-00124759-00124934 media presence and things like that then kaViC_LyEoo-00630-00124935-00124999 it's kaViC_LyEoo-00631-00125000-00125239 going to prioritize the same sorts of kaViC_LyEoo-00632-00125240-00125390 places and so kaViC_LyEoo-00633-00125391-00125727 um yes it's a difficult thing to kaViC_LyEoo-00634-00125728-00125943 to come up with an easy answer to but kaViC_LyEoo-00635-00125944-00126086 it's you know something that i do think kaViC_LyEoo-00636-00126088-00126110 is kaViC_LyEoo-00637-00126111-00126351 is improving and i'm you know always kaViC_LyEoo-00638-00126352-00126439 striving to kaViC_LyEoo-00639-00126440-00126734 to do better with it really i mean i kaViC_LyEoo-00640-00126735-00126902 think that's absolutely kaViC_LyEoo-00641-00126903-00127134 a really important point of of kaViC_LyEoo-00642-00127135-00127278 mainstream media or whatever you want to kaViC_LyEoo-00643-00127279-00127439 call it legacy media is kaViC_LyEoo-00644-00127440-00127623 that it has a perceived audience and who kaViC_LyEoo-00645-00127624-00127751 those people are and what demographic kaViC_LyEoo-00646-00127752-00127878 they are and everything but kaViC_LyEoo-00647-00127879-00128047 really you know it's it's our job to kaViC_LyEoo-00648-00128048-00128263 stay relevant and to draw in new people kaViC_LyEoo-00649-00128264-00128423 while not kaViC_LyEoo-00650-00128424-00128654 you know giving the established audience kaViC_LyEoo-00651-00128655-00128814 what they're familiar with but taking kaViC_LyEoo-00652-00128815-00128871 them a little kaViC_LyEoo-00653-00128872-00129078 a little you know a little in a new kaViC_LyEoo-00654-00129079-00129214 direction and staying relevant and kaViC_LyEoo-00655-00129215-00129358 building audience trust and building a kaViC_LyEoo-00656-00129359-00129471 new audience trust kaViC_LyEoo-00657-00129472-00129743 i mean nick with the financial times do kaViC_LyEoo-00658-00129744-00129854 you kaViC_LyEoo-00659-00129855-00130063 you know how do you decide what where kaViC_LyEoo-00660-00130064-00130231 you're going to write about and and kaViC_LyEoo-00661-00130232-00130423 how does that sit with what the kaViC_LyEoo-00662-00130424-00130639 perception of the financial times is kaViC_LyEoo-00663-00130640-00130975 i rely on my younger daughter kaViC_LyEoo-00664-00130976-00131287 because you know she's kaViC_LyEoo-00665-00131288-00131614 30 and kaViC_LyEoo-00666-00131615-00131854 they are the new restaurant goers you kaViC_LyEoo-00667-00131855-00131990 know there's absolutely kaViC_LyEoo-00668-00131991-00132302 no question about it and uh they're far kaViC_LyEoo-00669-00132303-00132583 more decisive far more opinionated than kaViC_LyEoo-00670-00132584-00132887 their boyfriends or fiances or husbands kaViC_LyEoo-00671-00132888-00133166 um and uh i just listened to what she kaViC_LyEoo-00672-00133167-00133254 has to say and kaViC_LyEoo-00673-00133255-00133599 follow her advice um i i think kaViC_LyEoo-00674-00133600-00133959 uh the ft has changed significantly in kaViC_LyEoo-00675-00133960-00134078 the time i've been kaViC_LyEoo-00676-00134079-00134390 writing about it um and i think his kaViC_LyEoo-00677-00134391-00134590 audience has changed and i think it's kaViC_LyEoo-00678-00134591-00134799 far more kaViC_LyEoo-00679-00134800-00135007 female orientated as it has to be you kaViC_LyEoo-00680-00135008-00135183 know the editor is now a woman the first kaViC_LyEoo-00681-00135184-00135319 female editor kaViC_LyEoo-00682-00135320-00135639 and uh until recently the magazine kaViC_LyEoo-00683-00135640-00135799 editor was a woman kaViC_LyEoo-00684-00135800-00136102 and uh i just think kaViC_LyEoo-00685-00136103-00136335 most of the restaurant goers today if kaViC_LyEoo-00686-00136336-00136478 you look around kaViC_LyEoo-00687-00136479-00136831 are women and that's fantastic kaViC_LyEoo-00688-00136832-00137175 and interesting yeah i think kaViC_LyEoo-00689-00137176-00137431 i mean i've i was in deschume yesterday kaViC_LyEoo-00690-00137432-00137583 morning for breakfast kaViC_LyEoo-00691-00137584-00137902 and it was 15 women and three men in the kaViC_LyEoo-00692-00137903-00138031 section of the restaurant that i was kaViC_LyEoo-00693-00138032-00138207 sitting in kaViC_LyEoo-00694-00138208-00138414 well as an ex-female newspaper editor kaViC_LyEoo-00695-00138415-00138599 myself i would say that you know that's kaViC_LyEoo-00696-00138600-00138831 a good thing because it might prove that kaViC_LyEoo-00697-00138832-00139095 more you know women have always been um kaViC_LyEoo-00698-00139096-00139231 you know the people who make quite a lot kaViC_LyEoo-00699-00139232-00139447 of financial decisions in in a kaViC_LyEoo-00700-00139448-00139751 in a relationship um or in a business kaViC_LyEoo-00701-00139752-00139823 setting so kaViC_LyEoo-00702-00139824-00140014 um i think that's a that's a good thing kaViC_LyEoo-00703-00140015-00140143 but i think everyone kaViC_LyEoo-00704-00140144-00140327 should be going to restaurants and to kaViC_LyEoo-00705-00140328-00140463 your point about your daughter kaViC_LyEoo-00706-00140464-00140663 actually i think what's really kaViC_LyEoo-00707-00140664-00140814 interesting for for perhaps kaViC_LyEoo-00708-00140815-00141127 um some well-established critics or kaViC_LyEoo-00709-00141128-00141327 section editors is that we sort of think kaViC_LyEoo-00710-00141328-00141431 about our audience but actually the kaViC_LyEoo-00711-00141432-00141599 people with the spending power quite kaViC_LyEoo-00712-00141600-00141647 often kaViC_LyEoo-00713-00141648-00141847 are the younger ones who you know we kaViC_LyEoo-00714-00141848-00141959 talk about this a lot kaViC_LyEoo-00715-00141960-00142302 um with friends and colleagues that uh kaViC_LyEoo-00716-00142303-00142447 you know people under the age of 30 who kaViC_LyEoo-00717-00142448-00142623 perhaps aren't getting onto the property kaViC_LyEoo-00718-00142624-00142735 ladder you know those are the people kaViC_LyEoo-00719-00142736-00142926 with the income that they're spending on kaViC_LyEoo-00720-00142927-00143095 dining out when i was young you know we kaViC_LyEoo-00721-00143096-00143214 might go to wine bar and perhaps you kaViC_LyEoo-00722-00143215-00143247 know kaViC_LyEoo-00723-00143248-00143390 share a seasonal salad between three kaViC_LyEoo-00724-00143391-00143551 people and and drink a lot kaViC_LyEoo-00725-00143552-00143726 now it's completely different so the kaViC_LyEoo-00726-00143727-00143854 audience is changing kaViC_LyEoo-00727-00143855-00144087 and where we write about and choose to kaViC_LyEoo-00728-00144088-00144166 write about kaViC_LyEoo-00729-00144167-00144351 has to change with that i think like are kaViC_LyEoo-00730-00144352-00144639 you how do you find the places that you kaViC_LyEoo-00731-00144640-00144839 write about obviously they're not by the kaViC_LyEoo-00732-00144840-00144999 sounds of it mostly on the sort of pr kaViC_LyEoo-00733-00145000-00145454 circuit kaViC_LyEoo-00734-00145455-00145663 you know um sometimes it's just word of kaViC_LyEoo-00735-00145664-00145943 mouth when i first started out kaViC_LyEoo-00736-00145944-00146175 my editor said just just go wander go kaViC_LyEoo-00737-00146176-00146335 under the streets and kaViC_LyEoo-00738-00146336-00146502 you know i just given birth to my kaViC_LyEoo-00739-00146503-00146647 daughter and i said i can't really do kaViC_LyEoo-00740-00146648-00146831 that kaViC_LyEoo-00741-00146832-00146990 thank god for the internet which i which kaViC_LyEoo-00742-00146991-00147159 i wander and i would sort of kaViC_LyEoo-00743-00147160-00147447 i came across all these amazing blogs kaViC_LyEoo-00744-00147448-00147495 where kaViC_LyEoo-00745-00147496-00147735 people are this is this is what they kaViC_LyEoo-00746-00147736-00147871 love is going out and discovering kaViC_LyEoo-00747-00147872-00148007 restaurants i'm really grateful to all kaViC_LyEoo-00748-00148008-00148063 of them i kaViC_LyEoo-00749-00148064-00148278 i've never discovered a restaurant i kaViC_LyEoo-00750-00148279-00148390 don't i don't think i don't even know kaViC_LyEoo-00751-00148391-00148551 what the term means discover because kaViC_LyEoo-00752-00148552-00148671 there's always going to be someone kaViC_LyEoo-00753-00148672-00148814 for you and that neighborhood is the kaViC_LyEoo-00754-00148815-00149023 first one in um kaViC_LyEoo-00755-00149024-00149399 and uh and and it's just it's exciting kaViC_LyEoo-00756-00149400-00149623 when so many there's just so many kaViC_LyEoo-00757-00149624-00149726 different perspectives kaViC_LyEoo-00758-00149727-00150047 on what's what people are eating today kaViC_LyEoo-00759-00150048-00150231 um so i feel really lucky in that in kaViC_LyEoo-00760-00150232-00150399 that respect so and now people just come kaViC_LyEoo-00761-00150400-00150583 and tell me i get lots of messages and kaViC_LyEoo-00762-00150584-00150735 my friends are always looking out for me kaViC_LyEoo-00763-00150736-00150814 and sometimes i'll kaViC_LyEoo-00764-00150815-00150983 go to one restaurant and then oh you kaViC_LyEoo-00765-00150984-00151102 walk down the block and there's a new kaViC_LyEoo-00766-00151103-00151143 one kaViC_LyEoo-00767-00151144-00151311 so i am wandering the streets a little kaViC_LyEoo-00768-00151312-00151511 bit too which i i kind of think you just kaViC_LyEoo-00769-00151512-00151823 have to do kaViC_LyEoo-00770-00151824-00151935 it's interesting that point about kaViC_LyEoo-00771-00151936-00152078 discovery because yes any restaurant kaViC_LyEoo-00772-00152079-00152126 which is kaViC_LyEoo-00773-00152127-00152263 in business obviously already has an kaViC_LyEoo-00774-00152264-00152335 audience you know otherwise it would kaViC_LyEoo-00775-00152336-00152447 have shut down very quickly and kaViC_LyEoo-00776-00152448-00152599 the sort of the idea that the sort of kaViC_LyEoo-00777-00152600-00152743 grand restaurant critic sweeps in and kaViC_LyEoo-00778-00152744-00152854 discovers something which kaViC_LyEoo-00779-00152855-00153007 people have been happily going to for kaViC_LyEoo-00780-00153008-00153151 you know there's a afghani place near me kaViC_LyEoo-00781-00153152-00153287 which i was like oh this is amazing of kaViC_LyEoo-00782-00153288-00153431 course it's been there for years and kaViC_LyEoo-00783-00153432-00153583 everybody loves it it was me that was kaViC_LyEoo-00784-00153584-00153735 the idiot um so kaViC_LyEoo-00785-00153736-00153919 there is definitely something to to kaViC_LyEoo-00786-00153920-00154087 understanding your place in in the kaViC_LyEoo-00787-00154088-00154199 ecosystem kaViC_LyEoo-00788-00154200-00154390 um just pausing for a moment to remind kaViC_LyEoo-00789-00154391-00154543 the audience please do send in your kaViC_LyEoo-00790-00154544-00154614 questions kaViC_LyEoo-00791-00154615-00154807 and using the function at the bottom of kaViC_LyEoo-00792-00154808-00154983 the screen i think it is um because we'd kaViC_LyEoo-00793-00154984-00155095 love to hear what you think kaViC_LyEoo-00794-00155096-00155423 about how we choose where we review and kaViC_LyEoo-00795-00155424-00155583 um what should be doing better or kaViC_LyEoo-00796-00155584-00155726 perhaps what we're doing amazingly kaViC_LyEoo-00797-00155727-00156031 um so please keep the questions coming kaViC_LyEoo-00798-00156032-00156199 but uh legal that was very interesting kaViC_LyEoo-00799-00156200-00156351 about wandering the streets and looking kaViC_LyEoo-00800-00156352-00156454 for places kaViC_LyEoo-00801-00156455-00156663 i i get asked a lot of questions about kaViC_LyEoo-00802-00156664-00156783 uh restaurants and kaViC_LyEoo-00803-00156784-00157119 and something i think people wonder a kaViC_LyEoo-00804-00157120-00157190 lot about kaViC_LyEoo-00805-00157191-00157519 how restaurant critics live their lives kaViC_LyEoo-00806-00157520-00157775 um there's the idea that perhaps it's a kaViC_LyEoo-00807-00157776-00157878 little bit lonely kaViC_LyEoo-00808-00157879-00158166 um and you know you're out there i mean kaViC_LyEoo-00809-00158167-00158302 first of all problems you know eating in kaViC_LyEoo-00810-00158303-00158454 places perhaps you might not necessarily kaViC_LyEoo-00811-00158455-00158543 want to kaViC_LyEoo-00812-00158544-00158823 um and if you have anonymity or you're kaViC_LyEoo-00813-00158824-00158902 going kaViC_LyEoo-00814-00158903-00159143 without broadcasting who you are it can kaViC_LyEoo-00815-00159144-00159343 be a sort of strange experience kaViC_LyEoo-00816-00159344-00159511 i mean nick do you do you find that when kaViC_LyEoo-00817-00159512-00159695 you are eating out do you find that kaViC_LyEoo-00818-00159696-00159854 you're sort of plowing a lonely furrow kaViC_LyEoo-00819-00159855-00159959 or do you feel like you're part of a kaViC_LyEoo-00820-00159960-00160054 community kaViC_LyEoo-00821-00160055-00160287 uh i'm definitely plowing a lonely kaViC_LyEoo-00822-00160288-00160502 furrow but it's a photo that i'm very kaViC_LyEoo-00823-00160503-00160623 happy with kaViC_LyEoo-00824-00160624-00160983 um and i wouldn't give up for the world kaViC_LyEoo-00825-00160984-00161247 so i'm you know but it is interesting kaViC_LyEoo-00826-00161248-00161375 how kaViC_LyEoo-00827-00161376-00161639 people look on restaurant correspondents kaViC_LyEoo-00828-00161640-00161814 or restaurant writers kaViC_LyEoo-00829-00161815-00162078 and they envy them and yet actually kaViC_LyEoo-00830-00162079-00162287 we're just as isolated kaViC_LyEoo-00831-00162288-00162599 as any journalist and possibly more than kaViC_LyEoo-00832-00162600-00162702 any other kaViC_LyEoo-00833-00162703-00163047 because in terms of you know wine kaViC_LyEoo-00834-00163048-00163319 fashion cinema at least they get a kaViC_LyEoo-00835-00163320-00163447 chance to meet kaViC_LyEoo-00836-00163448-00163726 whereas because we're all on our kaViC_LyEoo-00837-00163727-00163887 different agendas kaViC_LyEoo-00838-00163888-00164087 we never get a chance to meet you know kaViC_LyEoo-00839-00164088-00164335 this is the closest i've got to meeting kaViC_LyEoo-00840-00164336-00164399 jimmy kaViC_LyEoo-00841-00164400-00164766 and as long as i've known of his name kaViC_LyEoo-00842-00164767-00164838 you know kaViC_LyEoo-00843-00164839-00165199 so i think that is an issue that kaViC_LyEoo-00844-00165200-00165407 could be discussed you know but i kaViC_LyEoo-00845-00165408-00165695 wouldn't swap it kaViC_LyEoo-00846-00165696-00165838 i have to say when i was reviewing i kaViC_LyEoo-00847-00165839-00165990 would dread walking into a restaurant kaViC_LyEoo-00848-00165991-00166095 and seeing another restaurant critic kaViC_LyEoo-00849-00166096-00166151 because you think kaViC_LyEoo-00850-00166152-00166311 damn it they their lead time shorter kaViC_LyEoo-00851-00166312-00166414 than mine you know faye's going to get kaViC_LyEoo-00852-00166415-00166607 her review out before i get mine out so kaViC_LyEoo-00853-00166608-00166831 there's definitely um a sort of blessing kaViC_LyEoo-00854-00166832-00166990 and a curse to fraternize with with kaViC_LyEoo-00855-00166991-00167119 other critics and let them know where kaViC_LyEoo-00856-00167120-00167214 you're going kaViC_LyEoo-00857-00167215-00167526 i mean jimmy what you know you you you kaViC_LyEoo-00858-00167527-00167663 have kaViC_LyEoo-00859-00167664-00167990 been the the reviews out quickest of kaViC_LyEoo-00860-00167991-00168214 everyone because you're a newsprint kaViC_LyEoo-00861-00168215-00168423 yes how do you feel about it do you feel kaViC_LyEoo-00862-00168424-00168543 blown needy kaViC_LyEoo-00863-00168544-00168878 um yeah i mean i think i think as nick kaViC_LyEoo-00864-00168879-00169007 was saying there kaViC_LyEoo-00865-00169008-00169175 there is an element of maybe quite kaViC_LyEoo-00866-00169176-00169511 enjoying it but it is quite strange the kaViC_LyEoo-00867-00169512-00169743 the kind of mutual cageyness and cloak kaViC_LyEoo-00868-00169744-00169814 and dagger kaViC_LyEoo-00869-00169815-00170119 side of it like that you that there is kaViC_LyEoo-00870-00170120-00170287 this kind of unspoken thing and everyone kaViC_LyEoo-00871-00170288-00170511 kind of goes into their little bunkers kaViC_LyEoo-00872-00170512-00170854 and um there's not the same kaViC_LyEoo-00873-00170855-00171071 um i feel like there is a community and kaViC_LyEoo-00874-00171072-00171207 there are kind of like you know kaViC_LyEoo-00875-00171208-00171535 critics talk to each other and um kaViC_LyEoo-00876-00171536-00171726 there is some kind of back and forth and kaViC_LyEoo-00877-00171727-00171902 there is a kind of um kaViC_LyEoo-00878-00171903-00172126 uh there is there is that but yeah as kaViC_LyEoo-00879-00172127-00172254 you say nick like you know this is the kaViC_LyEoo-00880-00172255-00172407 first time we've we've kaViC_LyEoo-00881-00172408-00172566 come close to meeting and it does it kaViC_LyEoo-00882-00172567-00172766 does seem quite crazy but then i guess kaViC_LyEoo-00883-00172767-00172959 in some senses um kaViC_LyEoo-00884-00172960-00173366 maybe maybe it is um it is one of those kaViC_LyEoo-00885-00173367-00173535 things that's just kind of part of the kaViC_LyEoo-00886-00173536-00173678 job like kaViC_LyEoo-00887-00173679-00173983 that there is a there is a solitary side kaViC_LyEoo-00888-00173984-00174071 to it kaViC_LyEoo-00889-00174072-00174311 that that we maybe sort of enjoy kaViC_LyEoo-00890-00174312-00174502 cultivate obviously i'm not anonymous kaViC_LyEoo-00891-00174503-00174647 but if you are kaViC_LyEoo-00892-00174648-00174951 that comes with it um it's not something kaViC_LyEoo-00893-00174952-00175071 that i mind kaViC_LyEoo-00894-00175072-00175390 it's not something that i'm um i feel kaViC_LyEoo-00895-00175391-00175638 like i'm meeting more people kaViC_LyEoo-00896-00175639-00175814 and it is quite a strange world to come kaViC_LyEoo-00897-00175815-00176023 into like you know because kaViC_LyEoo-00898-00176024-00176231 you know these jobs don't really change kaViC_LyEoo-00899-00176232-00176431 hands that much it's like kaViC_LyEoo-00900-00176432-00176647 a weird sort of people thing or like kaViC_LyEoo-00901-00176648-00176807 masonic like you feel like you've kaViC_LyEoo-00902-00176808-00176943 entered the fold kaViC_LyEoo-00903-00176944-00177238 um so that is that is slightly odd but kaViC_LyEoo-00904-00177239-00177383 everyone's been really friendly kaViC_LyEoo-00905-00177384-00177543 everyone's been really welcoming every kaViC_LyEoo-00906-00177544-00177775 time i meet people it's lovely because kaViC_LyEoo-00907-00177776-00177951 you've got that shared thing but kaViC_LyEoo-00908-00177952-00178247 i don't know how you remove that element kaViC_LyEoo-00909-00178248-00178295 of kaViC_LyEoo-00910-00178296-00178551 kind of competitive edge almost where kaViC_LyEoo-00911-00178552-00178671 you are trying to kaViC_LyEoo-00912-00178672-00178871 you aren't sort of trying to show your kaViC_LyEoo-00913-00178872-00179031 cards too much and kaViC_LyEoo-00914-00179032-00179351 you are there's an element of all what kaViC_LyEoo-00915-00179352-00179543 did you think to that place or kaViC_LyEoo-00916-00179544-00179719 you've got that one wrong and there's kaViC_LyEoo-00917-00179720-00179863 there's that kind of kaViC_LyEoo-00918-00179864-00180047 side of it i must say i'm not kind of kaViC_LyEoo-00919-00180048-00180431 crying out for more of to be honest kaViC_LyEoo-00920-00180432-00180751 legarr is a much of a a new writing kaViC_LyEoo-00921-00180752-00180807 restaurant kaViC_LyEoo-00922-00180808-00180990 writing community in new york does that kaViC_LyEoo-00923-00180991-00181159 do people talk to each other or do kaViC_LyEoo-00924-00181160-00181343 are you doing your own thing and not kaViC_LyEoo-00925-00181344-00181590 really seeing anyone else kaViC_LyEoo-00926-00181591-00181743 i just i don't think we have we don't kaViC_LyEoo-00927-00181744-00181926 have that many restaurant critics in the kaViC_LyEoo-00928-00181927-00181999 city kaViC_LyEoo-00929-00182000-00182390 um and i i met all of them um i'm kaViC_LyEoo-00930-00182391-00182551 good friends with pete wells of course kaViC_LyEoo-00931-00182552-00182711 at the times and kaViC_LyEoo-00932-00182712-00182935 um i guess i never think of us as as kaViC_LyEoo-00933-00182936-00183014 competing kaViC_LyEoo-00934-00183015-00183278 um again because i have my own little kaViC_LyEoo-00935-00183279-00183454 mission which is slightly different from kaViC_LyEoo-00936-00183455-00183671 everybody else's um kaViC_LyEoo-00937-00183672-00183878 i do feel a sense of camaraderie through kaViC_LyEoo-00938-00183879-00184063 social media with food writers kaViC_LyEoo-00939-00184064-00184463 across the country um and um kaViC_LyEoo-00940-00184464-00184678 and so i i don't feel so alone but kaViC_LyEoo-00941-00184679-00184847 partly also my experience of going out kaViC_LyEoo-00942-00184848-00184975 to eat at these restaurants this is the kaViC_LyEoo-00943-00184976-00185135 only time i get to be social i think i'm kaViC_LyEoo-00944-00185136-00185319 not a naturally social person kaViC_LyEoo-00945-00185320-00185438 so to have to go out to these kaViC_LyEoo-00946-00185439-00185663 restaurants to get my crew together kaViC_LyEoo-00947-00185664-00185814 and i'm always just saying bring a kaViC_LyEoo-00948-00185815-00185950 friend sometimes i need a really big kaViC_LyEoo-00949-00185951-00186078 group because we're going to go to you kaViC_LyEoo-00950-00186079-00186190 know restaurant where everybody has to kaViC_LyEoo-00951-00186191-00186319 share kaViC_LyEoo-00952-00186320-00186511 so you know let's make a group of six or kaViC_LyEoo-00953-00186512-00186687 eight and like this is my kaViC_LyEoo-00954-00186688-00187047 this is my social life so um it is kaViC_LyEoo-00955-00187048-00187199 really fun also because of course kaViC_LyEoo-00956-00187200-00187375 i get to be the boss i do all the kaViC_LyEoo-00957-00187376-00187550 ordering kaViC_LyEoo-00958-00187551-00187759 i'm so bossy and now of course i go out kaViC_LyEoo-00959-00187760-00187863 with my husband to eat kaViC_LyEoo-00960-00187864-00188023 i'm trying to order everything because kaViC_LyEoo-00961-00188024-00188214 i'm used to it it's just terrible kaViC_LyEoo-00962-00188215-00188750 i become very rude but um but yes i i i kaViC_LyEoo-00963-00188751-00188975 it yeah it gives me i don't feel so kaViC_LyEoo-00964-00188976-00189175 isolated but i i guess it's also the kaViC_LyEoo-00965-00189176-00189343 sense that i feel like all the food kaViC_LyEoo-00966-00189344-00189575 critics in america are kind of kaViC_LyEoo-00967-00189576-00189743 on the same page right now and talking kaViC_LyEoo-00968-00189744-00189919 about how to do restaurant kaViC_LyEoo-00969-00189920-00190087 like we were having these discussions kaViC_LyEoo-00970-00190088-00190190 these kinds of conversations we're kaViC_LyEoo-00971-00190191-00190343 having now we're having them on social kaViC_LyEoo-00972-00190344-00190478 media and um kaViC_LyEoo-00973-00190479-00190647 and so that feels exciting i've never kaViC_LyEoo-00974-00190648-00190799 met some of them but i kaViC_LyEoo-00975-00190800-00191166 feel like i know them i think it's kaViC_LyEoo-00976-00191167-00191343 i i it's very interesting what you say kaViC_LyEoo-00977-00191344-00191599 there because um kaViC_LyEoo-00978-00191600-00191735 you know getting to know about new kaViC_LyEoo-00979-00191736-00191911 places taking friends out kaViC_LyEoo-00980-00191912-00192126 the the food community one of the things kaViC_LyEoo-00981-00192127-00192254 i think is um kaViC_LyEoo-00982-00192255-00192366 it's quite difficult particularly in the kaViC_LyEoo-00983-00192367-00192599 age of the influencer is maintaining kaViC_LyEoo-00984-00192600-00192823 what is the maintained distance that you kaViC_LyEoo-00985-00192824-00192935 should have from kaViC_LyEoo-00986-00192936-00193183 the restaurants from the chefs from that kaViC_LyEoo-00987-00193184-00193414 side of things obviously influences it's kaViC_LyEoo-00988-00193415-00193519 i mean we'll probably come on to that a kaViC_LyEoo-00989-00193520-00193631 little bit more in a minute but you know kaViC_LyEoo-00990-00193632-00193766 that's a close relationship and kaViC_LyEoo-00991-00193767-00193854 sometimes that's a kaViC_LyEoo-00992-00193855-00194063 transactional relationship restaurant kaViC_LyEoo-00993-00194064-00194159 criticism isn't kaViC_LyEoo-00994-00194160-00194463 isn't like that how but you know kaViC_LyEoo-00995-00194464-00194607 i mean people like marino lachlan at the kaViC_LyEoo-00996-00194608-00194759 sunday times who i work with has kaViC_LyEoo-00997-00194760-00194807 maintained kaViC_LyEoo-00998-00194808-00195007 anonymity she never you know the kaViC_LyEoo-00999-00195008-00195159 restaurants don't know her kaViC_LyEoo-01000-00195160-00195326 um and she doesn't have anything to do kaViC_LyEoo-01001-00195327-00195526 with the sort of tr kaViC_LyEoo-01002-00195527-00195687 cycle or going to the new openings or kaViC_LyEoo-01003-00195688-00195838 things like that kaViC_LyEoo-01004-00195839-00196199 uh jimmy you know do you kaViC_LyEoo-01005-00196200-00196375 do you maintain that that separation kaViC_LyEoo-01006-00196376-00196502 particularly in your kaViC_LyEoo-01007-00196503-00196599 situation where you've written about kaViC_LyEoo-01008-00196600-00196783 restaurants not not always from the kaViC_LyEoo-01009-00196784-00196919 critics point of view but kaViC_LyEoo-01010-00196920-00197238 in interviews and so on yeah um kaViC_LyEoo-01011-00197239-00197463 yeah i i suppose as you were talking kaViC_LyEoo-01012-00197464-00197687 there i was thinking that's probably kaViC_LyEoo-01013-00197688-00197878 when consciously or otherwise that's an kaViC_LyEoo-01014-00197879-00198071 element of why kaViC_LyEoo-01015-00198072-00198287 i probably maintain a little bit of an kaViC_LyEoo-01016-00198288-00198375 arm's length kaViC_LyEoo-01017-00198376-00198614 kind of um you know you're not sort of kaViC_LyEoo-01018-00198615-00198831 barreling into the group and kind of kaViC_LyEoo-01019-00198832-00199150 being sort of really matey kaViC_LyEoo-01020-00199151-00199319 friendly with people because i think kaViC_LyEoo-01021-00199320-00199511 there's a there's a kaViC_LyEoo-01022-00199512-00199799 there's just an awareness that you're kaViC_LyEoo-01023-00199800-00199847 gonna kaViC_LyEoo-01024-00199848-00200087 need to hopefully just try to be as kaViC_LyEoo-01025-00200088-00200287 honest as possible and you're trying to kaViC_LyEoo-01026-00200288-00200535 and you know this all comes back to the kaViC_LyEoo-01027-00200536-00200726 whole notion of anonymity and kaViC_LyEoo-01028-00200727-00201054 paying and not accepting uh kaViC_LyEoo-01029-00201055-00201383 freebies and kind of there's this code kaViC_LyEoo-01030-00201384-00201471 that kaViC_LyEoo-01031-00201472-00201759 that you know is not set down or it's or kaViC_LyEoo-01032-00201760-00201950 you know it is in some senses at kaViC_LyEoo-01033-00201951-00202143 various publications but you just kind kaViC_LyEoo-01034-00202144-00202447 of intuit it from like reading kaViC_LyEoo-01035-00202448-00202750 and speaking to other um critics kaViC_LyEoo-01036-00202751-00203038 and yeah so i i do feel like but it is a kaViC_LyEoo-01037-00203039-00203143 difficult thing kaViC_LyEoo-01038-00203144-00203383 because naturally you're doing the job kaViC_LyEoo-01039-00203384-00203511 for longer kaViC_LyEoo-01040-00203512-00203766 it it's it's useful to be friendly with kaViC_LyEoo-01041-00203767-00203926 people to know people kaViC_LyEoo-01042-00203927-00204175 to to be able to hear about things and kaViC_LyEoo-01043-00204176-00204375 and it's nice you know to kind of to kaViC_LyEoo-01044-00204376-00204607 i think it's it's in your interest to be kaViC_LyEoo-01045-00204608-00204702 a kaViC_LyEoo-01046-00204703-00204982 you know an approachable uh figure or an kaViC_LyEoo-01047-00204983-00205103 approachable person kaViC_LyEoo-01048-00205104-00205494 but you need to kind of maintain that kaViC_LyEoo-01049-00205496-00205671 i don't know if you do but i would kaViC_LyEoo-01050-00205671-00205879 always think that i'd need to maintain kaViC_LyEoo-01051-00205880-00206023 like a degree of kaViC_LyEoo-01052-00206023-00206319 of that kind of distance um in some ways kaViC_LyEoo-01053-00206319-00206486 just because i think you know it's um kaViC_LyEoo-01054-00206487-00206719 it's probably just healthier or better kaViC_LyEoo-01055-00206719-00206879 for everyone that it doesn't get too kaViC_LyEoo-01056-00206880-00207079 kind of enmeshed because you're kaViC_LyEoo-01057-00207080-00207334 you're trying to write about yeah it's kaViC_LyEoo-01058-00207335-00207455 it all gets a bit kaViC_LyEoo-01059-00207456-00207751 tangled and messy i'd say i mean i don't kaViC_LyEoo-01060-00207752-00207862 know if you can stop it kaViC_LyEoo-01061-00207863-00208079 being that but you know it's yeah i mean kaViC_LyEoo-01062-00208080-00208206 it's definitely affects kaViC_LyEoo-01063-00208207-00208406 it's definitely questions i mean nick kaViC_LyEoo-01064-00208407-00208542 your son is in the restaurant business kaViC_LyEoo-01065-00208544-00208606 and um kaViC_LyEoo-01066-00208607-00208831 and your wife is a very well-known wine kaViC_LyEoo-01067-00208832-00208966 expert so you know it must be quite kaViC_LyEoo-01068-00208967-00209134 difficult for you to maintain kaViC_LyEoo-01069-00209135-00209327 a separation or do you just avoid going kaViC_LyEoo-01070-00209328-00209542 anywhere that has any connection to kaViC_LyEoo-01071-00209544-00209662 all the many people you know in the kaViC_LyEoo-01072-00209663-00209934 business uh no kaViC_LyEoo-01073-00209935-00210255 i think because over the years kaViC_LyEoo-01074-00210256-00210527 it's knowing so many people that makes kaViC_LyEoo-01075-00210528-00210646 my job kaViC_LyEoo-01076-00210648-00210919 fascinating and makes it possible and kaViC_LyEoo-01077-00210919-00211239 adds credence to what i write kaViC_LyEoo-01078-00211240-00211406 i've never written about our son's kaViC_LyEoo-01079-00211407-00211631 restaurants and i've kaViC_LyEoo-01080-00211632-00211967 no need to kaViC_LyEoo-01081-00211967-00212215 tell anybody how wonderful my wife is so kaViC_LyEoo-01082-00212216-00212310 that's all right kaViC_LyEoo-01083-00212311-00212671 um i just think it's it's it's just kaViC_LyEoo-01084-00212671-00212903 they're just they just give me windows kaViC_LyEoo-01085-00212904-00213158 into a wonderful world of restaurants kaViC_LyEoo-01086-00213159-00213367 and i try and use those wonderful world kaViC_LyEoo-01087-00213367-00213519 those what those kaViC_LyEoo-01088-00213519-00213751 up is as a way of getting more kaViC_LyEoo-01089-00213752-00213998 information and background kaViC_LyEoo-01090-00214000-00214142 because i think that's what that's kaViC_LyEoo-01091-00214144-00214351 that's the hardest thing about our job kaViC_LyEoo-01092-00214352-00214703 is getting the right information because kaViC_LyEoo-01093-00214704-00214879 i think prs have a job to do but they kaViC_LyEoo-01094-00214880-00214998 don't always give you the right kaViC_LyEoo-01095-00215000-00215182 information kaViC_LyEoo-01096-00215183-00215534 yeah well i i would just like i i kaViC_LyEoo-01097-00215535-00215734 completely agree and i wonder if um kaViC_LyEoo-01098-00215735-00215887 don't know how lagaya feels about this kaViC_LyEoo-01099-00215888-00215958 but kaViC_LyEoo-01100-00215959-00216167 there is you definitely if you speak to kaViC_LyEoo-01101-00216167-00216382 a chef or you kind of kaViC_LyEoo-01102-00216383-00216655 um talk to someone that's in you know kaViC_LyEoo-01103-00216656-00216815 the world of food or interested in kaViC_LyEoo-01104-00216816-00216975 restaurants you always kind of come away kaViC_LyEoo-01105-00216976-00217039 with kaViC_LyEoo-01106-00217040-00217271 something from it and it is i think it kaViC_LyEoo-01107-00217271-00217398 does kind of kaViC_LyEoo-01108-00217400-00217639 you know obviously lisa you worked on kaViC_LyEoo-01109-00217640-00217734 both sides kaViC_LyEoo-01110-00217735-00218127 um nick you have and i think it is just kaViC_LyEoo-01111-00218128-00218375 i think maybe initially i was kind of kaViC_LyEoo-01112-00218376-00218542 like oh i quite like the idea of just kaViC_LyEoo-01113-00218544-00218798 being not too sort of embedded but kaViC_LyEoo-01114-00218800-00218998 it's really great to just learn and kaViC_LyEoo-01115-00219000-00219182 speak to people and it's been really kaViC_LyEoo-01116-00219183-00219382 valuable particularly throughout this kaViC_LyEoo-01117-00219383-00219551 past year when things have been so kaViC_LyEoo-01118-00219552-00219839 difficult for chefs and restaurants to kaViC_LyEoo-01119-00219840-00220063 you know i've i've done interviews with kaViC_LyEoo-01120-00220064-00220191 people where i've only ended up using kaViC_LyEoo-01121-00220192-00220351 like a couple of quotes but kaViC_LyEoo-01122-00220352-00220527 there's been real value in just hearing kaViC_LyEoo-01123-00220528-00220671 the things that people are going through kaViC_LyEoo-01124-00220671-00220887 the things they're dealing with kaViC_LyEoo-01125-00220888-00221103 you know the stresses involved and it kaViC_LyEoo-01126-00221104-00221351 just i think it improves your kaViC_LyEoo-01127-00221352-00221623 your appreciation of the context and kaViC_LyEoo-01128-00221623-00221751 what it takes to bring everything kaViC_LyEoo-01129-00221752-00221887 together and hopefully kaViC_LyEoo-01130-00221888-00222375 improves your ability to do the job kaViC_LyEoo-01131-00222376-00222527 yeah i agree i would agree with that i kaViC_LyEoo-01132-00222528-00222679 think it's it's really important to have kaViC_LyEoo-01133-00222680-00222863 a sense of what it's like on the other kaViC_LyEoo-01134-00222864-00223063 side of the past even if you're not kaViC_LyEoo-01135-00223064-00223239 getting the sort of extras in the glass kaViC_LyEoo-01136-00223240-00223358 of champagne on arrival and all that kaViC_LyEoo-01137-00223359-00223527 stuff which one has to try and avoid kaViC_LyEoo-01138-00223528-00223791 um but let's get to it i guess let's get kaViC_LyEoo-01139-00223792-00223839 to kaViC_LyEoo-01140-00223840-00223975 to something which is on a lot of kaViC_LyEoo-01141-00223976-00224167 people's minds which is kaViC_LyEoo-01142-00224167-00224327 you know while we've got instagram and kaViC_LyEoo-01143-00224328-00224487 now tik tok and kaViC_LyEoo-01144-00224488-00224751 uh it's all about the visuals i mean do kaViC_LyEoo-01145-00224752-00224823 restaurant kaViC_LyEoo-01146-00224823-00224991 writers do restaurant critics have the kaViC_LyEoo-01147-00224992-00225223 power that they used to have the guy kaViC_LyEoo-01148-00225223-00225471 what in your opinion you know is is this kaViC_LyEoo-01149-00225471-00225671 a dying breed or is there still kaViC_LyEoo-01150-00225671-00226127 a real importance to what it what we do kaViC_LyEoo-01151-00226128-00226406 i think i i think it still matters i kaViC_LyEoo-01152-00226407-00226463 would say kaViC_LyEoo-01153-00226464-00226727 i think for sure that uh when so during kaViC_LyEoo-01154-00226728-00226839 the pandemic kaViC_LyEoo-01155-00226840-00227079 um i have not been writing my column and kaViC_LyEoo-01156-00227080-00227231 um pete wells has not been kaViC_LyEoo-01157-00227232-00227391 he's been writing about restaurants he kaViC_LyEoo-01158-00227392-00227606 resumed after i don't know if it was a kaViC_LyEoo-01159-00227607-00227775 period of six months but he is not kaViC_LyEoo-01160-00227776-00227823 giving kaViC_LyEoo-01161-00227823-00228134 stars um and i never gave stars kaViC_LyEoo-01162-00228135-00228415 so i still think i mean we'll have to kaViC_LyEoo-01163-00228416-00228503 see kaViC_LyEoo-01164-00228504-00228782 as the world reopens but um i feel like kaViC_LyEoo-01165-00228783-00228863 the weight of kaViC_LyEoo-01166-00228864-00229071 of stars from the new york times still kaViC_LyEoo-01167-00229071-00229191 means something kaViC_LyEoo-01168-00229192-00229655 um i i didn't i think that my column did kaViC_LyEoo-01169-00229656-00229806 have the capacity and i know that for kaViC_LyEoo-01170-00229807-00229975 example hannah goldfield's column at the kaViC_LyEoo-01171-00229976-00230103 new yorker kaViC_LyEoo-01172-00230104-00230415 that that those that when we spot like kaViC_LyEoo-01173-00230416-00230487 these little kaViC_LyEoo-01174-00230488-00230791 restaurants that people do go i can i kaViC_LyEoo-01175-00230792-00230934 get all sorts of messages i remember kaViC_LyEoo-01176-00230935-00231071 writing about a restaurant and kaViC_LyEoo-01177-00231071-00231239 you know the the chef told me later he kaViC_LyEoo-01178-00231240-00231391 said oh my god he said we opened the kaViC_LyEoo-01179-00231392-00231551 doors there was a line kaViC_LyEoo-01180-00231552-00231823 we sold out within two hours so that's kaViC_LyEoo-01181-00231823-00231967 amazing to hear kaViC_LyEoo-01182-00231967-00232094 now that won't happen if i'm writing kaViC_LyEoo-01183-00232096-00232294 about a restaurant that's really far kaViC_LyEoo-01184-00232296-00232471 away from the city center kaViC_LyEoo-01185-00232471-00232734 so i know that there's a limit um but kaViC_LyEoo-01186-00232735-00232831 but i do still kaViC_LyEoo-01187-00232832-00233103 feel like it matters if only because an kaViC_LyEoo-01188-00233104-00233191 instagram kaViC_LyEoo-01189-00233192-00233510 picture often that that's valuable for kaViC_LyEoo-01190-00233511-00233679 a specific food item right like the kaViC_LyEoo-01191-00233680-00233839 gigantic milkshake kaViC_LyEoo-01192-00233840-00234055 the um the hamburger that's three feet kaViC_LyEoo-01193-00234056-00234191 tall kaViC_LyEoo-01194-00234192-00234358 these are the kinds of things that that kaViC_LyEoo-01195-00234359-00234527 catch on or there are endless kaViC_LyEoo-01196-00234528-00234823 pizza accounts and donut accounts um but kaViC_LyEoo-01197-00234823-00235023 i still feel like the stories behind the kaViC_LyEoo-01198-00235023-00235175 restaurants are what matter kaViC_LyEoo-01199-00235176-00235446 like that's what draws me um that either kaViC_LyEoo-01200-00235448-00235615 there's incredible artistry kaViC_LyEoo-01201-00235616-00235910 in an incredible touch of a cook who's kaViC_LyEoo-01202-00235911-00236031 bringing something that no kaViC_LyEoo-01203-00236032-00236246 nobody else can or there's just the kaViC_LyEoo-01204-00236248-00236415 story of this food that maybe you've kaViC_LyEoo-01205-00236416-00236542 never tried and that will kaViC_LyEoo-01206-00236544-00236703 give you a glimpse of another world so i kaViC_LyEoo-01207-00236704-00236879 still feel like that kaViC_LyEoo-01208-00236880-00237071 restaurant critics as writers and as kaViC_LyEoo-01209-00237071-00237239 storytellers have kaViC_LyEoo-01210-00237240-00237494 have an important role to play i think kaViC_LyEoo-01211-00237496-00237639 that's a good point about the people who kaViC_LyEoo-01212-00237640-00237694 are kaViC_LyEoo-01213-00237696-00237855 who write on food and restaurants really kaViC_LyEoo-01214-00237856-00238015 well are writers who are writing about kaViC_LyEoo-01215-00238016-00238142 food rather than kaViC_LyEoo-01216-00238144-00238367 food people who are becoming writers you kaViC_LyEoo-01217-00238367-00238494 know there's a there's a distinction kaViC_LyEoo-01218-00238496-00238655 between those two things but kaViC_LyEoo-01219-00238656-00238894 i mean jimmy in london you know kaViC_LyEoo-01220-00238896-00239039 particularly i guess there's kaViC_LyEoo-01221-00239040-00239342 there's such a a a sort of scene in this kaViC_LyEoo-01222-00239344-00239519 it's it's so visual everyone's taking kaViC_LyEoo-01223-00239519-00239615 everyone's standing on the chair and kaViC_LyEoo-01224-00239616-00239767 taking pictures everyone's kaViC_LyEoo-01225-00239767-00240031 you know doing all that stuff do you do kaViC_LyEoo-01226-00240032-00240119 you feel like kaViC_LyEoo-01227-00240119-00240327 you're you know i mean i hate to be kaViC_LyEoo-01228-00240328-00240479 negative about it but you know do you kaViC_LyEoo-01229-00240480-00240534 feel like kaViC_LyEoo-01230-00240535-00240791 eventually finished yeah that's it it's kaViC_LyEoo-01231-00240792-00241030 over kaViC_LyEoo-01232-00241031-00241263 no do you think that that things are kaViC_LyEoo-01233-00241264-00241471 changing i guess the balance of kaViC_LyEoo-01234-00241471-00241655 how people are being influenced with a kaViC_LyEoo-01235-00241656-00241846 small eye is changing kaViC_LyEoo-01236-00241848-00242191 yeah yeah completely and i think um kaViC_LyEoo-01237-00242192-00242534 the kind of influencer economy is kaViC_LyEoo-01238-00242535-00242775 like incredibly powerful and um kaViC_LyEoo-01239-00242776-00242919 influential like kaViC_LyEoo-01240-00242919-00243223 i i you know you kind of kaViC_LyEoo-01241-00243223-00243398 you see it constantly in that visual kaViC_LyEoo-01242-00243400-00243671 medium and the kind of long captions on kaViC_LyEoo-01243-00243671-00243830 instagram the things that you can do kaViC_LyEoo-01244-00243831-00244023 with stories and tick tock kaViC_LyEoo-01245-00244023-00244310 but i just don't know if those things kaViC_LyEoo-01246-00244311-00244398 are kaViC_LyEoo-01247-00244400-00244767 a true kind of replacement kaViC_LyEoo-01248-00244767-00245087 for you know you know read you know the kaViC_LyEoo-01249-00245088-00245303 guy's stuff and pete wells's stuff kaViC_LyEoo-01250-00245304-00245463 and you know and obviously you know kaViC_LyEoo-01251-00245464-00245606 marina and like kaViC_LyEoo-01252-00245607-00245887 i i read so many writers and obviously kaViC_LyEoo-01253-00245888-00245958 i'm kind of kaViC_LyEoo-01254-00245959-00246110 in the bag for this stuff because i'm a kaViC_LyEoo-01255-00246111-00246303 fan of it and i'm interested but kaViC_LyEoo-01256-00246304-00246542 i just don't know if it's the same thing kaViC_LyEoo-01257-00246544-00246742 or hits the same notes and kaViC_LyEoo-01258-00246744-00247030 getting that depth um i feel like that kaViC_LyEoo-01259-00247031-00247223 is something that it's kaViC_LyEoo-01260-00247223-00247487 there will always be a demand for like kaViC_LyEoo-01261-00247488-00247639 whether kaViC_LyEoo-01262-00247640-00247967 whether you could argue that kaViC_LyEoo-01263-00247967-00248287 you know legacy media as you mentioned kaViC_LyEoo-01264-00248288-00248598 needs to kind of do more in terms of kaViC_LyEoo-01265-00248600-00248751 trying different things you know you kaViC_LyEoo-01266-00248752-00248958 look at the the boom in kaViC_LyEoo-01267-00248959-00249151 in food newsletters that's kind of kaViC_LyEoo-01268-00249152-00249398 coincided with the pandemic and kaViC_LyEoo-01269-00249400-00249606 people sharing those stories and that to kaViC_LyEoo-01270-00249607-00249710 me kaViC_LyEoo-01271-00249711-00249967 feels like something exciting because kaViC_LyEoo-01272-00249967-00250063 those are kind of you know they're kaViC_LyEoo-01273-00250064-00250198 almost like dead kaViC_LyEoo-01274-00250200-00250446 word heavy long reads but they're being kaViC_LyEoo-01275-00250448-00250615 you know shared in their hundreds and kaViC_LyEoo-01276-00250616-00250734 thousands kaViC_LyEoo-01277-00250735-00250975 and it's not a video it's not like you kaViC_LyEoo-01278-00250976-00251103 know a kind of kaViC_LyEoo-01279-00251104-00251455 you know a pr invite kind of kaViC_LyEoo-01280-00251456-00251598 you know i mean like picture it's kind kaViC_LyEoo-01281-00251600-00251846 of it's proper storytelling kaViC_LyEoo-01282-00251848-00252039 in depth and i think that that shows kaViC_LyEoo-01283-00252040-00252287 that hopefully there is still kaViC_LyEoo-01284-00252288-00252542 there is still a real market for for kaViC_LyEoo-01285-00252544-00252606 this and kaViC_LyEoo-01286-00252607-00252798 and it's and it's about kind of adapting kaViC_LyEoo-01287-00252800-00252958 and it's about kind of you know kaViC_LyEoo-01288-00252959-00253206 um yeah do it doing the job better kaViC_LyEoo-01289-00253207-00253398 really and just kind of trying to kaViC_LyEoo-01290-00253400-00253679 trying to kind of uh evolve maybe yeah i kaViC_LyEoo-01291-00253680-00253863 do think those two things can co-exist i kaViC_LyEoo-01292-00253864-00253998 know there were there was a panel a kaViC_LyEoo-01293-00254000-00254134 really interesting panel i think last kaViC_LyEoo-01294-00254135-00254223 week or the week before kaViC_LyEoo-01295-00254223-00254430 as part of this food season um which kaViC_LyEoo-01296-00254431-00254671 talked about old media new media and kaViC_LyEoo-01297-00254671-00254846 you know i can't help feeling that not kaViC_LyEoo-01298-00254848-00255015 least because in newspapers kaViC_LyEoo-01299-00255016-00255158 and their audiences whether digital or kaViC_LyEoo-01300-00255159-00255415 print still exists and they still go to kaViC_LyEoo-01301-00255416-00255639 those titles but other stories can be kaViC_LyEoo-01302-00255640-00255927 told and i i wouldn't want to see one kaViC_LyEoo-01303-00255928-00256206 for the other but um nick what's your kaViC_LyEoo-01304-00256207-00256294 feeling about the kaViC_LyEoo-01305-00256296-00256639 the rise of of the the visual um against kaViC_LyEoo-01306-00256640-00256767 against the words i mean you've written kaViC_LyEoo-01307-00256767-00256942 books so you i'm sure you i can tell kaViC_LyEoo-01308-00256944-00257071 which way you're going to go on this but kaViC_LyEoo-01309-00257071-00257246 tell us kaViC_LyEoo-01310-00257248-00257606 all i'd say is that actually having a kaViC_LyEoo-01311-00257607-00257703 camera kaViC_LyEoo-01312-00257704-00258015 and taking a picture of a dish is a much kaViC_LyEoo-01313-00258016-00258342 much easier way of remembering what it kaViC_LyEoo-01314-00258344-00258679 looks like and i'd also kaViC_LyEoo-01315-00258680-00258967 say that often the best photos of food kaViC_LyEoo-01316-00258967-00259079 i've ever taken kaViC_LyEoo-01317-00259080-00259375 i'll never the pristy dish but they're kaViC_LyEoo-01318-00259376-00259430 always kaViC_LyEoo-01319-00259431-00259734 one that somebody started you know i kaViC_LyEoo-01320-00259735-00259846 just think and hope kaViC_LyEoo-01321-00259848-00260182 that both sets of new and old media kaViC_LyEoo-01322-00260183-00260503 will coexist because that would be kaViC_LyEoo-01323-00260504-00260727 fantastic and i'd hate to see a world kaViC_LyEoo-01324-00260728-00260871 without the written word kaViC_LyEoo-01325-00260871-00261030 i i want to know nick do you feel like kaViC_LyEoo-01326-00261031-00261198 it's improved your kaViC_LyEoo-01327-00261200-00261494 your writing the ability to to take kaViC_LyEoo-01328-00261496-00261646 photos and use technology in that kaViC_LyEoo-01329-00261648-00261734 absolutely kaViC_LyEoo-01330-00261735-00262030 yeah yeah i kind of can't really imagine kaViC_LyEoo-01331-00262031-00262271 doing it without taking photos kaViC_LyEoo-01332-00262272-00262527 videos kind of constant you know easy kaViC_LyEoo-01333-00262528-00262679 access to notes that kind of quite kaViC_LyEoo-01334-00262680-00262751 discreet kaViC_LyEoo-01335-00262752-00263006 on a phone like it's um it's very much a kaViC_LyEoo-01336-00263007-00263143 part of the way that i've always done kaViC_LyEoo-01337-00263144-00263287 the job so i kind of kaViC_LyEoo-01338-00263288-00263606 i can't imagine how i'd have codes there kaViC_LyEoo-01339-00263607-00263734 was definitely a time when i would be kaViC_LyEoo-01340-00263735-00263919 sending a text message to the babysitter kaViC_LyEoo-01341-00263920-00264030 which was basically sort of kaViC_LyEoo-01342-00264031-00264287 hurriedly writing down the elements of a kaViC_LyEoo-01343-00264288-00264399 of a menu kaViC_LyEoo-01344-00264400-00264734 so i think that um kaViC_LyEoo-01345-00264735-00264951 you know i think that that is um kaViC_LyEoo-01346-00264952-00265079 absolutely right that kaViC_LyEoo-01347-00265080-00265223 you know and again you know when i was kaViC_LyEoo-01348-00265224-00265415 trying to be anonymous as a critic and kaViC_LyEoo-01349-00265416-00265630 all of us and and those who are probably kaViC_LyEoo-01350-00265631-00265743 watching but who kaViC_LyEoo-01351-00265744-00265887 the other restaurant critics will know kaViC_LyEoo-01352-00265888-00266079 that everyone's taking pictures now so kaViC_LyEoo-01353-00266080-00266230 you know in the in there was the time at kaViC_LyEoo-01354-00266231-00266351 which you know you really draw attention kaViC_LyEoo-01355-00266352-00266423 to yourself and kaViC_LyEoo-01356-00266424-00266623 and you in danger of busting your kaViC_LyEoo-01357-00266624-00266775 anonymity if you've got a camera kaViC_LyEoo-01358-00266776-00266910 or a notebook out but now everyone's kaViC_LyEoo-01359-00266911-00267119 doing it from the influencers to kaViC_LyEoo-01360-00267120-00267495 you know my daughter so it's you know kaViC_LyEoo-01361-00267496-00267630 the kind of the cover is better than it kaViC_LyEoo-01362-00267631-00267887 ever was before perhaps but um kaViC_LyEoo-01363-00267888-00268310 it's we we're coming to the end of kaViC_LyEoo-01364-00268311-00268479 time but one one question that's coming kaViC_LyEoo-01365-00268480-00268639 in which i think is really interesting kaViC_LyEoo-01366-00268640-00268975 is about the focus on new restaurants um kaViC_LyEoo-01367-00268976-00269039 and kaViC_LyEoo-01368-00269040-00269255 it's sort of in thrall to the new um kaViC_LyEoo-01369-00269256-00269375 this correspondent said that you know kaViC_LyEoo-01370-00269376-00269471 why are we doing that well actually i kaViC_LyEoo-01371-00269472-00269543 would say that kaViC_LyEoo-01372-00269544-00269806 we most restaurant critics and kaViC_LyEoo-01373-00269807-00269999 restaurant writing that i'm aware of kaViC_LyEoo-01374-00270000-00270199 does actually look at places that have kaViC_LyEoo-01375-00270200-00270455 been around for a long time um kaViC_LyEoo-01376-00270456-00270647 as well as the new but there is kaViC_LyEoo-01377-00270648-00270839 certainly something about being the kaViC_LyEoo-01378-00270840-00270999 first person in order certainly used to kaViC_LyEoo-01379-00271000-00271151 be do you think that's still kaViC_LyEoo-01380-00271152-00271358 relevant and let's go to the guy first kaViC_LyEoo-01381-00271359-00271471 do you do kaViC_LyEoo-01382-00271472-00271615 you know do you ever go to somewhere kaViC_LyEoo-01383-00271616-00271743 thinking i must get there because it's kaViC_LyEoo-01384-00271744-00272158 new or is that completely irrelevant kaViC_LyEoo-01385-00272159-00272375 you know i think that that's coming from kaViC_LyEoo-01386-00272376-00272487 the whole thing kaViC_LyEoo-01387-00272488-00272591 when we write for a newspaper kaViC_LyEoo-01388-00272592-00272758 everything's supposed to have a hook kaViC_LyEoo-01389-00272759-00272910 like right it's supposed to be timely kaViC_LyEoo-01390-00272911-00273030 and newsy so kaViC_LyEoo-01391-00273031-00273239 if it didn't just open then why are we kaViC_LyEoo-01392-00273240-00273367 doing it um kaViC_LyEoo-01393-00273368-00273510 and so i've just kind of pushed back kaViC_LyEoo-01394-00273511-00273623 against that because there are lots of kaViC_LyEoo-01395-00273624-00273767 little places in the city that have been kaViC_LyEoo-01396-00273768-00273847 around a long time kaViC_LyEoo-01397-00273848-00274151 that have never been written about um so kaViC_LyEoo-01398-00274152-00274343 i i mean again i'm in a slightly kaViC_LyEoo-01399-00274344-00274463 different position because i'm looking kaViC_LyEoo-01400-00274464-00274599 for the places that people kaViC_LyEoo-01401-00274600-00274791 don't know about like that a lot of kaViC_LyEoo-01402-00274792-00274951 people don't know about yet that that kaViC_LyEoo-01403-00274952-00275039 are the kaViC_LyEoo-01404-00275040-00275447 secrets in the neighborhoods um and so kaViC_LyEoo-01405-00275448-00275655 it used to be that i felt like it had to kaViC_LyEoo-01406-00275656-00275847 have opened within the previous three kaViC_LyEoo-01407-00275848-00276006 years for me to be able to write about kaViC_LyEoo-01408-00276007-00276215 it and then but then i would make a case kaViC_LyEoo-01409-00276216-00276367 for others um kaViC_LyEoo-01410-00276368-00276582 so but i mean i i think again it's just kaViC_LyEoo-01411-00276583-00276767 coming from it's kaViC_LyEoo-01412-00276768-00277006 what what why are we doing the story now kaViC_LyEoo-01413-00277007-00277295 which is always the mindset kaViC_LyEoo-01414-00277296-00277591 that's editors for you having been one kaViC_LyEoo-01415-00277592-00277719 and having kaViC_LyEoo-01416-00277720-00277975 well i think you know yeah having been kaViC_LyEoo-01417-00277976-00278134 you know edited the food section as well kaViC_LyEoo-01418-00278135-00278287 and worked on a paper kaViC_LyEoo-01419-00278288-00278519 um it's kind of it's the engine isn't it kaViC_LyEoo-01420-00278520-00278703 it's kind of like why are we doing this kaViC_LyEoo-01421-00278704-00278863 why now what's the hook and like you kaViC_LyEoo-01422-00278864-00278910 know kaViC_LyEoo-01423-00278911-00279191 your benefit is being newsy so the the kaViC_LyEoo-01424-00279192-00279399 instinct is to play to that but yeah kaViC_LyEoo-01425-00279400-00279679 i definitely agree that there should be kaViC_LyEoo-01426-00279680-00279871 you know some of the favorite kaViC_LyEoo-01427-00279872-00280175 um some some great pieces of writing i kaViC_LyEoo-01428-00280176-00280343 think over the past year have been kaViC_LyEoo-01429-00280344-00280679 kind of slightly askew like not the kaViC_LyEoo-01430-00280680-00280910 the treadmill because it was also kaViC_LyEoo-01431-00280911-00281110 fractured and places weren't open kaViC_LyEoo-01432-00281111-00281367 and some were just open in one form and kaViC_LyEoo-01433-00281368-00281534 um obviously it's been challenging kaViC_LyEoo-01434-00281535-00281671 throughout this period but i think i've kaViC_LyEoo-01435-00281672-00281887 quite enjoyed that like and kaViC_LyEoo-01436-00281888-00282055 and you can have an old place that's kaViC_LyEoo-01437-00282056-00282199 suddenly relevant kaViC_LyEoo-01438-00282200-00282479 for you know new reasons or there's a kaViC_LyEoo-01439-00282480-00282647 new there's a change of chef or whatever kaViC_LyEoo-01440-00282648-00282734 and i think kaViC_LyEoo-01441-00282735-00282943 i think it's a i think it's a fair point kaViC_LyEoo-01442-00282944-00283095 really that um kaViC_LyEoo-01443-00283096-00283334 that kind of uh muddling that a little kaViC_LyEoo-01444-00283335-00283575 bit is is not a bad way to go but i do kaViC_LyEoo-01445-00283576-00283799 also understand that kaViC_LyEoo-01446-00283800-00284023 from the point of view of you're trying kaViC_LyEoo-01447-00284024-00284254 to decide where to go to or where to kaViC_LyEoo-01448-00284255-00284367 write about kaViC_LyEoo-01449-00284368-00284551 and you're like you know i'm only kaViC_LyEoo-01450-00284552-00284719 looking at one city and it's like oh kaViC_LyEoo-01451-00284720-00284887 well it could be anywhere kaViC_LyEoo-01452-00284888-00285175 and so that engine of it being are the kaViC_LyEoo-01453-00285176-00285375 new places or the places at least with a kaViC_LyEoo-01454-00285376-00285575 kind of new sort of narrative kaViC_LyEoo-01455-00285576-00285839 that just kind of gives you something to kaViC_LyEoo-01456-00285840-00285903 to kind of kaViC_LyEoo-01457-00285904-00286119 channel it or that gives you a shape to kaViC_LyEoo-01458-00286120-00286279 like work with because i think it can kaViC_LyEoo-01459-00286280-00286367 just kaViC_LyEoo-01460-00286368-00286527 it could just you know it could just be kaViC_LyEoo-01461-00286528-00286758 anywhere basically couldn't it like and kaViC_LyEoo-01462-00286759-00286975 yeah it sort of just gives it a drive kaViC_LyEoo-01463-00286976-00287175 and an engine so i can see both sides to kaViC_LyEoo-01464-00287176-00287295 it kaViC_LyEoo-01465-00287296-00287527 nick it feels to me um that you're not kaViC_LyEoo-01466-00287528-00287639 quite so kaViC_LyEoo-01467-00287640-00287895 sort of caught up in that that cycle of kaViC_LyEoo-01468-00287896-00288054 you know what's new kaViC_LyEoo-01469-00288055-00288271 but do you have that demand on you or do kaViC_LyEoo-01470-00288272-00288495 you make your own decisions kaViC_LyEoo-01471-00288496-00288799 i make my own decisions and kaViC_LyEoo-01472-00288800-00288951 occasionally i've written about new kaViC_LyEoo-01473-00288952-00289119 places like everybody else kaViC_LyEoo-01474-00289120-00289439 but more often than not i i think kaViC_LyEoo-01475-00289440-00289639 you know there's two sides to the kaViC_LyEoo-01476-00289640-00289767 argument isn't that kaViC_LyEoo-01477-00289768-00289982 a restaurant opens and it charges for kaViC_LyEoo-01478-00289983-00290279 whack therefore it's open for criticism kaViC_LyEoo-01479-00290280-00290447 and you can go in and you can be as kaViC_LyEoo-01480-00290448-00290606 critical as you like kaViC_LyEoo-01481-00290607-00290903 my own feeling and my own experience kaViC_LyEoo-01482-00290904-00291087 from being a restaurateur kaViC_LyEoo-01483-00291088-00291303 is that it takes three or four possibly kaViC_LyEoo-01484-00291304-00291471 up to six months kaViC_LyEoo-01485-00291472-00291758 for a restaurant to open and really find kaViC_LyEoo-01486-00291759-00291871 its feet kaViC_LyEoo-01487-00291872-00292167 and i think it's only fair if you're kaViC_LyEoo-01488-00292168-00292310 writing for something kaViC_LyEoo-01489-00292311-00292519 that's going to love that's going to kaViC_LyEoo-01490-00292520-00292671 last and be around and kaViC_LyEoo-01491-00292672-00292927 be on the internet and so on to give a kaViC_LyEoo-01492-00292928-00293006 restaurant kaViC_LyEoo-01493-00293007-00293295 a chance to find its feet and to start kaViC_LyEoo-01494-00293296-00293406 off to bed in and kaViC_LyEoo-01495-00293407-00293710 and then go kaViC_LyEoo-01496-00293711-00294095 well that's very um charitable one might kaViC_LyEoo-01497-00294096-00294143 say kaViC_LyEoo-01498-00294144-00294423 but you know that that is always that's kaViC_LyEoo-01499-00294424-00294599 going to be the eternal payoff but kaViC_LyEoo-01500-00294600-00294767 we've had we've had a question in which kaViC_LyEoo-01501-00294768-00294943 i think is comes back to something that kaViC_LyEoo-01502-00294944-00295110 we touched on earlier and i think it is kaViC_LyEoo-01503-00295111-00295279 something that probably kaViC_LyEoo-01504-00295280-00295382 quite a lot of the audience and kaViC_LyEoo-01505-00295383-00295487 certainly people are interested in kaViC_LyEoo-01506-00295488-00295687 restaurants want to know about which is kaViC_LyEoo-01507-00295688-00295958 this idea of getting away from the kaViC_LyEoo-01508-00295959-00296079 restaurants which kaViC_LyEoo-01509-00296080-00296254 are coming to our attention most easily kaViC_LyEoo-01510-00296255-00296430 and and perhaps going kaViC_LyEoo-01511-00296431-00296727 to restaurants outside what you might kaViC_LyEoo-01512-00296728-00296830 know kaViC_LyEoo-01513-00296831-00297079 and you're writing about a cuisine that kaViC_LyEoo-01514-00297080-00297191 you don't know kaViC_LyEoo-01515-00297192-00297367 very much about you you know you're kaViC_LyEoo-01516-00297368-00297527 eager to know about it you want to share kaViC_LyEoo-01517-00297528-00297663 that experience kaViC_LyEoo-01518-00297664-00298015 how do you take that on board how do you kaViC_LyEoo-01519-00298016-00298167 work with that and how do you represent kaViC_LyEoo-01520-00298168-00298367 that restaurant in a way that's kaViC_LyEoo-01521-00298368-00298527 meaningful and that is going to kaViC_LyEoo-01522-00298528-00298679 represent it correctly but also give kaViC_LyEoo-01523-00298680-00298734 something kaViC_LyEoo-01524-00298735-00298879 interesting for the readers you know kaViC_LyEoo-01525-00298880-00299103 that is i think that's something which kaViC_LyEoo-01526-00299104-00299143 is kaViC_LyEoo-01527-00299144-00299399 extremely relevant now and will only kaViC_LyEoo-01528-00299400-00299543 become more so as we kaViC_LyEoo-01529-00299544-00299847 all seek to to you know talk to a wider kaViC_LyEoo-01530-00299848-00299943 audience and to kaViC_LyEoo-01531-00299944-00300079 understand more about the restaurants kaViC_LyEoo-01532-00300080-00300271 that are out there that we it's just our kaViC_LyEoo-01533-00300272-00300454 fault that we haven't seen yet kaViC_LyEoo-01534-00300455-00300806 um jimmy let's come to you first kaViC_LyEoo-01535-00300807-00301119 um yeah i i think that kaViC_LyEoo-01536-00301120-00301415 is is the question isn't it and it's kaViC_LyEoo-01537-00301416-00301575 something that when i've kaViC_LyEoo-01538-00301576-00301943 had to do those kind of deep dives into kaViC_LyEoo-01539-00301944-00302287 a culture or a part of kind of food kaViC_LyEoo-01540-00302288-00302463 food tradition that i'm not familiar kaViC_LyEoo-01541-00302464-00302630 with um i've really kaViC_LyEoo-01542-00302631-00302830 i've really embraced it and enjoyed it kaViC_LyEoo-01543-00302831-00302915 and it's kind of been kaViC_LyEoo-01544-00302916-00303079 [Music] kaViC_LyEoo-01545-00303080-00303271 the times at which the job is most kaViC_LyEoo-01546-00303272-00303567 exciting i think in that you kind of kaViC_LyEoo-01547-00303568-00303871 um particularly i think uh recently kaViC_LyEoo-01548-00303872-00304175 like a lot of um uh kaViC_LyEoo-01549-00304176-00304495 chefs say of my generation that uh kaViC_LyEoo-01550-00304496-00304710 you know second generation immigrants as kaViC_LyEoo-01551-00304711-00304815 well kaViC_LyEoo-01552-00304816-00305103 are rediscovering their heritage through kaViC_LyEoo-01553-00305104-00305254 food so you're seeing a lot of these kaViC_LyEoo-01554-00305255-00305447 places that are kind of they've got this kaViC_LyEoo-01555-00305448-00305654 really interesting lens of kaViC_LyEoo-01556-00305655-00305879 of um yeah of like working their way kaViC_LyEoo-01557-00305880-00306103 through their culture and i kaViC_LyEoo-01558-00306104-00306510 i i it's it's such a um kaViC_LyEoo-01559-00306511-00306751 i again think it goes back to sometimes kaViC_LyEoo-01560-00306752-00306887 and it's interesting to hear kaViC_LyEoo-01561-00306888-00307175 lagaya talking about um going to kaViC_LyEoo-01562-00307176-00307358 different restaurants getting people in kaViC_LyEoo-01563-00307359-00307399 her kaViC_LyEoo-01564-00307400-00307575 the boss that said just get out there kaViC_LyEoo-01565-00307576-00307751 and explore and kaViC_LyEoo-01566-00307752-00307958 sometimes it is just a question of like kaViC_LyEoo-01567-00307959-00308110 a boring question of like kaViC_LyEoo-01568-00308111-00308358 resources like i think in the uk kaViC_LyEoo-01569-00308359-00308430 especially kaViC_LyEoo-01570-00308431-00308751 like you do have this this you know kaViC_LyEoo-01571-00308752-00308975 slight kind of churn of needing to get kaViC_LyEoo-01572-00308976-00309175 to places and kaViC_LyEoo-01573-00309176-00309558 needing to um get those kind of news kaViC_LyEoo-01574-00309559-00309695 stories and things like that and it's kaViC_LyEoo-01575-00309696-00309806 kind of quite often kaViC_LyEoo-01576-00309807-00309967 you can only go once because of kaViC_LyEoo-01577-00309968-00310254 deadlines and i think kaViC_LyEoo-01578-00310255-00310527 if there was a way to to get more kaViC_LyEoo-01579-00310528-00310751 coverage or expand restaurant coverage kaViC_LyEoo-01580-00310752-00310871 in some way kaViC_LyEoo-01581-00310872-00311079 then that would open things up and maybe kaViC_LyEoo-01582-00311080-00311223 you could cover things in a different kaViC_LyEoo-01583-00311224-00311343 way maybe we don't kaViC_LyEoo-01584-00311344-00311558 oh this place hasn't got the best photos kaViC_LyEoo-01585-00311559-00311767 or the kind of presentation of it isn't kaViC_LyEoo-01586-00311768-00311895 great but maybe we can kaViC_LyEoo-01587-00311896-00312182 illustrate it maybe we can i feel like kaViC_LyEoo-01588-00312183-00312239 those kaViC_LyEoo-01589-00312240-00312439 are the questions i feel like in a weird kaViC_LyEoo-01590-00312440-00312654 sort of way quite often kaViC_LyEoo-01591-00312655-00312903 the stumbling block is just logistical kaViC_LyEoo-01592-00312904-00313047 or it's just kind of kaViC_LyEoo-01593-00313048-00313358 um but i feel like if we can like work kaViC_LyEoo-01594-00313359-00313543 past that a little bit more kaViC_LyEoo-01595-00313544-00313871 and you know i'm constantly quite often kaViC_LyEoo-01596-00313872-00314047 i'm kind of reverse engineering you know kaViC_LyEoo-01597-00314048-00314215 i'll see that you know kaViC_LyEoo-01598-00314216-00314406 there's real i'm really noticing in kaViC_LyEoo-01599-00314407-00314567 south south east london where i live kaViC_LyEoo-01600-00314568-00314639 like you know kaViC_LyEoo-01601-00314640-00314782 the brazilian community and like kaViC_LyEoo-01602-00314783-00314967 brazilian butchers and brazilian kaViC_LyEoo-01603-00314968-00315127 delis and stuff and so i'm really kaViC_LyEoo-01604-00315128-00315327 interested in that and how kaViC_LyEoo-01605-00315328-00315495 the brazilian community is embedding kaViC_LyEoo-01606-00315496-00315654 itself in london and the food kaViC_LyEoo-01607-00315655-00315958 there and so that is a story and a kaViC_LyEoo-01608-00315959-00316175 review or a piece that i really want to kaViC_LyEoo-01609-00316176-00316343 write and i really want to explore and kaViC_LyEoo-01610-00316344-00316543 so i think sometimes it's about kaViC_LyEoo-01611-00316544-00316847 having that impetus and just keeping on kaViC_LyEoo-01612-00316848-00317030 pushing and trying to find that kaViC_LyEoo-01613-00317031-00317351 the correct vehicle for that basically kaViC_LyEoo-01614-00317352-00317543 absolutely and i think that observation kaViC_LyEoo-01615-00317544-00317710 is really important i suppose what i kaViC_LyEoo-01616-00317711-00317823 partly mean is like the real kaViC_LyEoo-01617-00317824-00319295 nitty-gritty of kaViC_LyEoo-01618-00319296-00319623 got to you've got to really really do kaViC_LyEoo-01619-00319624-00319791 the work in terms of like kaViC_LyEoo-01620-00319792-00320071 researching and trying to kind of try kaViC_LyEoo-01621-00320072-00320287 and know as much as you possibly can but kaViC_LyEoo-01622-00320288-00320615 like you know i guess kaViC_LyEoo-01623-00320616-00320767 this is the thing isn't it like you're kaViC_LyEoo-01624-00320768-00320943 sort of trying to and kaViC_LyEoo-01625-00320944-00321223 and this gets into the the notion of who kaViC_LyEoo-01626-00321224-00321423 is the reader who are we writing for and kaViC_LyEoo-01627-00321424-00321582 it's something that a lot of people kaViC_LyEoo-01628-00321583-00321767 quite rightly kind of challenge like you kaViC_LyEoo-01629-00321768-00321982 know like what is the frame of reference kaViC_LyEoo-01630-00321983-00322175 that we're aiming for like kaViC_LyEoo-01631-00322176-00322367 why does that person know that dish and kaViC_LyEoo-01632-00322368-00322551 not that why do we have to kaViC_LyEoo-01633-00322552-00322751 explain that in you know in in kaViC_LyEoo-01634-00322752-00322991 parenthesis like it's um kaViC_LyEoo-01635-00322992-00323191 i don't know if there's any easy answers kaViC_LyEoo-01636-00323192-00323367 beyond just kaViC_LyEoo-01637-00323368-00323567 really really doing the work and and kaViC_LyEoo-01638-00323568-00323719 just trying to kaViC_LyEoo-01639-00323720-00323958 to to just be honest about lack of kaViC_LyEoo-01640-00323959-00324054 knowledge i think kaViC_LyEoo-01641-00324055-00324310 sometimes there's something about um kaViC_LyEoo-01642-00324311-00324495 restaurant writing that does have this kaViC_LyEoo-01643-00324496-00324591 kind of kaViC_LyEoo-01644-00324592-00324767 omniscience doesn't it and it's kind of kaViC_LyEoo-01645-00324768-00324943 your you know everything about kaViC_LyEoo-01646-00324944-00325167 food and you're this expert and that kaViC_LyEoo-01647-00325168-00325343 kind of feels sometimes baked into it kaViC_LyEoo-01648-00325344-00325423 but i think kaViC_LyEoo-01649-00325424-00325623 i'm seeing more and more people saying kaViC_LyEoo-01650-00325624-00325767 this is new to me kaViC_LyEoo-01651-00325768-00325934 this is my understanding of it and i kaViC_LyEoo-01652-00325935-00326110 think that kind of honesty is something kaViC_LyEoo-01653-00326111-00326199 where kaViC_LyEoo-01654-00326200-00326495 you know yeah there's gonna be there's kaViC_LyEoo-01655-00326496-00326703 gonna be things that that go wrong but i kaViC_LyEoo-01656-00326704-00326847 feel like that's a much kaViC_LyEoo-01657-00326848-00327071 healthier better place to start from kaViC_LyEoo-01658-00327072-00327295 than just being dismissive of something kaViC_LyEoo-01659-00327296-00327415 which i think is kaViC_LyEoo-01660-00327416-00327671 is dying out and just isn't really you kaViC_LyEoo-01661-00327672-00327727 know kaViC_LyEoo-01662-00327728-00327934 just isn't really allowed these days kaViC_LyEoo-01663-00327935-00328103 where kind of previously people could kaViC_LyEoo-01664-00328104-00328215 just be kind of kaViC_LyEoo-01665-00328216-00328478 comically dismissive of entire uh kaViC_LyEoo-01666-00328479-00328678 cuisines and kaViC_LyEoo-01667-00328679-00328839 there certainly has been some of that kaViC_LyEoo-01668-00328840-00329030 and and and rightly some criticism of kaViC_LyEoo-01669-00329031-00329191 that and i do think things are changing kaViC_LyEoo-01670-00329192-00329263 and i think kaViC_LyEoo-01671-00329264-00329463 you know you're right that honesty is is kaViC_LyEoo-01672-00329464-00329727 is a great idea i know a critic who kaViC_LyEoo-01673-00329728-00329847 if she's going somewhere where she kaViC_LyEoo-01674-00329848-00329975 doesn't know much about it she will seek kaViC_LyEoo-01675-00329976-00330127 someone out perhaps to go with her who kaViC_LyEoo-01676-00330128-00330287 who will know and who will be able to kaViC_LyEoo-01677-00330288-00330463 talk and will choose the menu and kaViC_LyEoo-01678-00330464-00330743 and so on again i mean that's you know kaViC_LyEoo-01679-00330744-00330839 perhaps you could give us your kaViC_LyEoo-01680-00330840-00331015 perspective on that on kaViC_LyEoo-01681-00331016-00331278 immersing yourself or do you become do kaViC_LyEoo-01682-00331279-00331439 you attempt to become an expert in a kaViC_LyEoo-01683-00331440-00331558 cuisine if you're going somewhere that kaViC_LyEoo-01684-00331559-00331751 you haven't experienced before or do you kaViC_LyEoo-01685-00331752-00332103 take it at face value and go from there kaViC_LyEoo-01686-00332104-00332430 so i i do so much research not that i kaViC_LyEoo-01687-00332431-00332495 ever kaViC_LyEoo-01688-00332496-00332654 come even close to being an expert i kaViC_LyEoo-01689-00332655-00332854 also will try to bring somebody who kaViC_LyEoo-01690-00332855-00333006 might be more familiar kaViC_LyEoo-01691-00333007-00333199 with the cuisine and then i will look at kaViC_LyEoo-01692-00333200-00333327 cookbooks i will kaViC_LyEoo-01693-00333328-00333478 i will always look at what other people kaViC_LyEoo-01694-00333479-00333639 have written partly just because i don't kaViC_LyEoo-01695-00333640-00333791 want to describe something the exact kaViC_LyEoo-01696-00333792-00333927 same way someone else is done right kaViC_LyEoo-01697-00333928-00334063 we're always trying to make things kaViC_LyEoo-01698-00334064-00334271 new to ourselves but definitely when i kaViC_LyEoo-01699-00334272-00334478 started out like i still think of when i kaViC_LyEoo-01700-00334479-00334558 first kaViC_LyEoo-01701-00334559-00334734 was was writing restaurant reviews i kaViC_LyEoo-01702-00334735-00334895 really didn't know how to do it right kaViC_LyEoo-01703-00334896-00335158 this is a new form to me no but nobody kaViC_LyEoo-01704-00335159-00335454 i didn't go to school for it um and i kaViC_LyEoo-01705-00335455-00335591 still cringe when i think about one kaViC_LyEoo-01706-00335592-00335687 review i wrote kaViC_LyEoo-01707-00335688-00336015 where everybody we all sat down and we kaViC_LyEoo-01708-00336016-00336254 had ordered these very large lamb snails kaViC_LyEoo-01709-00336255-00336382 and it was just something that nobody at kaViC_LyEoo-01710-00336383-00336551 the table had had before and i kaViC_LyEoo-01711-00336552-00336751 i wrote about it from the perspective of kaViC_LyEoo-01712-00336752-00336951 it being new to us kaViC_LyEoo-01713-00336952-00337175 but i feel like but i feel like by doing kaViC_LyEoo-01714-00337176-00337319 that i made it seem exotic kaViC_LyEoo-01715-00337320-00337551 and it wasn't exotic in that restaurant kaViC_LyEoo-01716-00337552-00337799 that was completely familiar food kaViC_LyEoo-01717-00337800-00337982 i mean why was it not and why didn't we kaViC_LyEoo-01718-00337983-00338263 just treat it as a large escargot kaViC_LyEoo-01719-00338264-00338471 you felt like what what where were we kaViC_LyEoo-01720-00338472-00338678 coming from i wasn't dismissive kaViC_LyEoo-01721-00338679-00338982 i was i was enthralled by it but i did kaViC_LyEoo-01722-00338983-00339191 approach it from this perspective kaViC_LyEoo-01723-00339192-00339503 of this is something different and i kaViC_LyEoo-01724-00339504-00339734 and so i i struggle with this because i kaViC_LyEoo-01725-00339735-00339958 agree like i'm not an expert i should be kaViC_LyEoo-01726-00339959-00340278 honest about that um but i'm also kaViC_LyEoo-01727-00340279-00340415 and maybe this is a new york times thing kaViC_LyEoo-01728-00340416-00340615 i'm not really allowed to bring in kaViC_LyEoo-01729-00340616-00340951 an eye a first person into the piece kaViC_LyEoo-01730-00340952-00341254 so when i write i do have the strains kaViC_LyEoo-01731-00341255-00341503 omniscient kaViC_LyEoo-01732-00341504-00341799 um and and i feel like i owe it to so i kaViC_LyEoo-01733-00341800-00341982 owe it to the restaurant to try to kaViC_LyEoo-01734-00341983-00342103 understand their food kaViC_LyEoo-01735-00342104-00342423 on their own terms um and i need to know kaViC_LyEoo-01736-00342424-00342454 that kaViC_LyEoo-01737-00342455-00342615 yes that is the texture it's supposed to kaViC_LyEoo-01738-00342616-00342815 be and it may not be a texture i kaViC_LyEoo-01739-00342816-00343103 i personally like but i need to show kaViC_LyEoo-01740-00343104-00343271 that they are doing it exactly kaViC_LyEoo-01741-00343272-00343495 the way it's supposed to be done um and kaViC_LyEoo-01742-00343496-00343606 i have to honor that kaViC_LyEoo-01743-00343607-00343806 so i'm really conscious of all of those kaViC_LyEoo-01744-00343807-00343910 things and kaViC_LyEoo-01745-00343911-00344134 um and i don't entirely know what the kaViC_LyEoo-01746-00344135-00344239 answer is beyond kaViC_LyEoo-01747-00344240-00344623 trying not to make things seem exotic kaViC_LyEoo-01748-00344624-00344991 if if they're not to another culture kaViC_LyEoo-01749-00344992-00345271 i think that's really absolutely the kaViC_LyEoo-01750-00345272-00345351 watch word that kaViC_LyEoo-01751-00345352-00345599 everyone perhaps should should have it kaViC_LyEoo-01752-00345600-00345671 nick let's kaViC_LyEoo-01753-00345672-00345799 let's just go to you and this is kaViC_LyEoo-01754-00345800-00345934 probably the last point because i know kaViC_LyEoo-01755-00345935-00346087 we've got to wrap up soon and we could kaViC_LyEoo-01756-00346088-00346247 i i could carry on talking prayers it's kaViC_LyEoo-01757-00346248-00346423 fascinating but as kaViC_LyEoo-01758-00346424-00346647 you've you've been a critic for a kaViC_LyEoo-01759-00346648-00346791 restaurant correspondent and critic for kaViC_LyEoo-01760-00346792-00346951 33 years i guess two kaViC_LyEoo-01761-00346952-00347119 two questions just to touch on one that kaViC_LyEoo-01762-00347120-00347351 one of if you're going into a restaurant kaViC_LyEoo-01763-00347352-00347447 where you're not familiar with the kaViC_LyEoo-01764-00347448-00347567 cuisine you know how kaViC_LyEoo-01765-00347568-00347767 over the years you know how have you kaViC_LyEoo-01766-00347768-00347903 tackled that and and also how do you kaViC_LyEoo-01767-00347904-00348030 keep it fresh you know when you've kaViC_LyEoo-01768-00348031-00348151 how many different words are there for kaViC_LyEoo-01769-00348152-00348334 delicious you know how do you not have kaViC_LyEoo-01770-00348335-00348575 sort of raging and we after all this kaViC_LyEoo-01771-00348576-00348671 time kaViC_LyEoo-01772-00348672-00349063 um to answer the first question kaViC_LyEoo-01773-00349064-00349327 i always take a friend that's just the kaViC_LyEoo-01774-00349328-00349430 honest truth kaViC_LyEoo-01775-00349431-00349623 and you know we have a nigerian kaViC_LyEoo-01776-00349624-00349951 son-in-law we have a singaporean kaViC_LyEoo-01777-00349952-00350278 sister-in-law any kind of cuisine you kaViC_LyEoo-01778-00350279-00350382 will always find kaViC_LyEoo-01779-00350383-00350695 an a native of that country somewhere in kaViC_LyEoo-01780-00350696-00350799 london kaViC_LyEoo-01781-00350800-00351015 and they're the the conduit they have to kaViC_LyEoo-01782-00351016-00351247 be uh kaViC_LyEoo-01783-00351248-00351558 second question i grew very bored kaViC_LyEoo-01784-00351559-00351903 of my language but i don't go to kaViC_LyEoo-01785-00351904-00352158 grow at all board of the subject so i kaViC_LyEoo-01786-00352159-00352375 just spur myself on to find another word kaViC_LyEoo-01787-00352376-00352654 for delicious kaViC_LyEoo-01788-00352655-00352791 i think we obviously all need to really kaViC_LyEoo-01789-00352792-00353047 expand our families um to make sure that kaViC_LyEoo-01790-00353048-00353134 we've got kaViC_LyEoo-01791-00353135-00353478 people from every present representing kaViC_LyEoo-01792-00353479-00353663 every cuisine but that's something that kaViC_LyEoo-01793-00353664-00353806 social media has been great for i think kaViC_LyEoo-01794-00353807-00353943 is being able to find people and kaViC_LyEoo-01795-00353944-00354103 you know i've been out for dinner people kaViC_LyEoo-01796-00354104-00354319 with with people i don't know because kaViC_LyEoo-01797-00354320-00354375 you know kaViC_LyEoo-01798-00354376-00354519 taking someone new sometimes can give kaViC_LyEoo-01799-00354520-00354719 you as the critic a fresh perspective kaViC_LyEoo-01800-00354720-00354895 whether or not they're an expert but kaViC_LyEoo-01801-00354896-00355063 expertise is is definitely something to kaViC_LyEoo-01802-00355064-00355287 be valued yeah um kaViC_LyEoo-01803-00355288-00355558 yeah i guess i just i think it's a kaViC_LyEoo-01804-00355559-00355639 really kaViC_LyEoo-01805-00355640-00355919 it's a really really good point as well kaViC_LyEoo-01806-00355920-00355958 but i kaViC_LyEoo-01807-00355959-00356295 sort of it's important that the person kaViC_LyEoo-01808-00356296-00356415 isn't kind of just kaViC_LyEoo-01809-00356416-00356671 brought along as this kind of protective kaViC_LyEoo-01810-00356672-00356863 shield or whatever that you can kind of kaViC_LyEoo-01811-00356864-00356934 like kaViC_LyEoo-01812-00356935-00357175 say whatever you like because i do think kaViC_LyEoo-01813-00357176-00357239 that kaViC_LyEoo-01814-00357240-00357510 um i i think there's real value in kaViC_LyEoo-01815-00357511-00357687 having those conversations what should kaViC_LyEoo-01816-00357688-00357799 this taste like kaViC_LyEoo-01817-00357800-00357967 is this what you'd normally expect oh kaViC_LyEoo-01818-00357968-00358167 here's my personal view on it but kaViC_LyEoo-01819-00358168-00358454 um but yeah that would just be my my one kaViC_LyEoo-01820-00358455-00358591 sort of um my kaViC_LyEoo-01821-00358592-00358775 one point about that but i think it's i kaViC_LyEoo-01822-00358776-00358975 think it's far better than just like kaViC_LyEoo-01823-00358976-00359310 guessing and just being like you know um kaViC_LyEoo-01824-00359311-00359558 sort of yeah just dismissive of stuff kaViC_LyEoo-01825-00359559-00359671 but i think kaViC_LyEoo-01826-00359672-00360023 as as just trying to do as much kaViC_LyEoo-01827-00360024-00360254 research as possible and it feels like kaViC_LyEoo-01828-00360255-00360391 speaking to other people kaViC_LyEoo-01829-00360392-00360567 canvassing opinion is part of that kaViC_LyEoo-01830-00360568-00360703 research isn't it kaViC_LyEoo-01831-00360704-00361119 yeah we are out of time and i'm not sure kaViC_LyEoo-01832-00361120-00361167 whether kaViC_LyEoo-01833-00361168-00361543 we have um allowed our audience um kaViC_LyEoo-01834-00361544-00361710 the view that the job of the restaurant kaViC_LyEoo-01835-00361711-00361854 critic is is one to be kaViC_LyEoo-01836-00361855-00362078 admired and desired which is generally kaViC_LyEoo-01837-00362079-00362254 how it's perceived or whether kaViC_LyEoo-01838-00362255-00362503 your insights have given people um a new kaViC_LyEoo-01839-00362504-00362687 view and a new perspective on on going kaViC_LyEoo-01840-00362688-00362743 out for kaViC_LyEoo-01841-00362744-00363015 free tea which is it's a lot more than kaViC_LyEoo-01842-00363016-00363054 that kaViC_LyEoo-01843-00363055-00363310 um so thank you so much to all of you um kaViC_LyEoo-01844-00363311-00363478 i know andrew is going to come on and kaViC_LyEoo-01845-00363479-00363751 and wrap it up but jimmy nick and lagai kaViC_LyEoo-01846-00363752-00363895 thank you all it's been absolutely kaViC_LyEoo-01847-00363896-00364054 fascinating for me and i know for the kaViC_LyEoo-01848-00364055-00364223 audience too so um kaViC_LyEoo-01849-00364224-00364423 hugely appreciated and we'll have to kaViC_LyEoo-01850-00364424-00364551 just carry on the after party in a kaViC_LyEoo-01851-00364552-00364631 restaurant somewhere kaViC_LyEoo-01852-00364632-00364830 [Music] kaViC_LyEoo-01853-00364831-00365134 thanks lisa thank you thank you thank kaViC_LyEoo-01854-00365135-00365223 you all kaViC_LyEoo-01855-00365224-00365391 i'm going to massively reiterate lisa kaViC_LyEoo-01856-00365392-00365606 thanks and lisa brilliant sharing kaViC_LyEoo-01857-00365607-00365791 jimmy nick lagaya what an absolutely kaViC_LyEoo-01858-00365792-00365910 fascinating conversation i feel like kaViC_LyEoo-01859-00365911-00366078 that hour has whizzed by and it was kaViC_LyEoo-01860-00366079-00366175 really interesting kaViC_LyEoo-01861-00366176-00366334 seeing questions come through in lots of kaViC_LyEoo-01862-00366335-00366510 the audience saying just how kaViC_LyEoo-01863-00366511-00366663 interesting and insightful they really kaViC_LyEoo-01864-00366664-00366839 found that so thank you so much kaViC_LyEoo-01865-00366840-00367030 um thank you to kitchenaid for kaViC_LyEoo-01866-00367031-00367151 supporting the work of the british kaViC_LyEoo-01867-00367152-00367278 library food season kaViC_LyEoo-01868-00367279-00367423 plenty more to come we're here through kaViC_LyEoo-01869-00367424-00367591 the end of may we have something every kaViC_LyEoo-01870-00367592-00367678 day this week kaViC_LyEoo-01871-00367679-00367839 head to the british library website you kaViC_LyEoo-01872-00367840-00367991 can see it all there to book kaViC_LyEoo-01873-00367992-00368134 um if you'd like to support work at the kaViC_LyEoo-01874-00368135-00368287 british library there's a donate button kaViC_LyEoo-01875-00368288-00368406 on your screen kaViC_LyEoo-01876-00368407-00368591 but for now massive thanks again to our kaViC_LyEoo-01877-00368592-00368782 panel and goodbye from the british kaViC_LyEoo-01878-00368783-00370374 library food season kaViC_LyEoo-01879-00370375-00372351 [Music] kaViC_LyEoo-01880-00372352-00372559 you kddl988mwlU-00000-00000028-00000335 stage lighting instruments lanterns or kddl988mwlU-00001-00000336-00000572 luminaires in Europe are used in stage kddl988mwlU-00002-00000573-00000782 lighting to illuminate theatrical kddl988mwlU-00003-00000783-00000968 productions concerts and other kddl988mwlU-00004-00000969-00001187 performances taking place in live kddl988mwlU-00005-00001188-00001516 performance venues they are also used to kddl988mwlU-00006-00001517-00001735 light television studios and sound kddl988mwlU-00007-00001736-00002114 stages many stage craft terms vary kddl988mwlU-00008-00002115-00002333 between the United States and the United kddl988mwlU-00009-00002334-00002692 Kingdom in the United States lighting kddl988mwlU-00010-00002693-00003060 fixtures are often called instruments or kddl988mwlU-00011-00003061-00003538 units in the UK they are called lanterns kddl988mwlU-00012-00003539-00004025 or luminaires this article mainly uses kddl988mwlU-00013-00004026-00004827 terms common to the United States topic kddl988mwlU-00014-00004828-00005426 components see the picture at top right kddl988mwlU-00015-00005427-00005651 for the physical location of most kddl988mwlU-00016-00005652-00005993 components stage lighting instruments kddl988mwlU-00017-00005994-00006673 all have the following components topic kddl988mwlU-00018-00006675-00007289 housing the lamp housing is a metal or kddl988mwlU-00019-00007290-00007510 plastic container that serves as a body kddl988mwlU-00020-00007511-00007742 for the entire instrument and prevents kddl988mwlU-00021-00007743-00007885 light from spilling in unwanted kddl988mwlU-00022-00007886-00008213 directions it comprises all of the kddl988mwlU-00023-00008214-00008435 exterior of the fixture except for the kddl988mwlU-00024-00008436-00008710 lens or opening the housing may be kddl988mwlU-00025-00008711-00008924 designed with specific elements that kddl988mwlU-00026-00008925-00009106 help reduce heat and increase the kddl988mwlU-00027-00009107-00009401 efficiency of a lamp older instruments kddl988mwlU-00028-00009402-00009620 were made from rolled and machined steel kddl988mwlU-00029-00009621-00009878 or aluminum with the advent of the kddl988mwlU-00030-00009879-00010114 source for many lighting instruments are kddl988mwlU-00031-00010115-00010399 being made from diecast metal die kddl988mwlU-00032-00010400-00010585 casting allows for one single kddl988mwlU-00033-00010586-00010853 lightweight body that is more economical kddl988mwlU-00034-00010854-00011180 to produce and use the first Lantern to kddl988mwlU-00035-00011181-00011405 make use of die castings was the Strand kddl988mwlU-00036-00011406-00011721 pattern 23 designed by Fred Bentham in kddl988mwlU-00037-00011722-00012013 1953 this small mirror spot enjoyed a kddl988mwlU-00038-00012014-00012245 thirty-year production run and found its kddl988mwlU-00039-00012246-00012496 way into many British schools halls and kddl988mwlU-00040-00012497-00012805 theaters some instruments are made from kddl988mwlU-00041-00012806-00013522 plastic such as the Selleck on Pacific kddl988mwlU-00042-00013524-00014213 topic lens or opening the opening is the kddl988mwlU-00043-00014215-00014394 gap in the housing from where the beam kddl988mwlU-00044-00014394-00014676 of light is intended to come many kddl988mwlU-00045-00014677-00014928 fixtures use a lens to help control the kddl988mwlU-00046-00014929-00015168 beam of light though some such as border kddl988mwlU-00047-00015169-00015393 or cyclorama lights do not have any kddl988mwlU-00048-00015394-00015569 lenses or optics other than the kddl988mwlU-00049-00015571-00015843 reflector the lens and the reflector kddl988mwlU-00050-00015844-00016065 along with other beam ole Turing devices kddl988mwlU-00051-00016066-00016281 are both considered part of the optics kddl988mwlU-00052-00016282-00017415 system topic reflector the reflector kddl988mwlU-00053-00017416-00017616 affects the quality and directionality kddl988mwlU-00054-00017617-00017895 of the light output a reflector is kddl988mwlU-00055-00017896-00018108 located behind or around the light kddl988mwlU-00056-00018109-00018345 source in such a way as to direct more kddl988mwlU-00057-00018346-00018636 light towards the lens or opening each kddl988mwlU-00058-00018637-00018921 unit has a characteristic reflector used kddl988mwlU-00059-00018922-00019122 in conjunction with the lens or lack kddl988mwlU-00060-00019123-00019403 thereof to create the desired effect an kddl988mwlU-00061-00019404-00019695 ellipsoidal reflector has a lamp set at kddl988mwlU-00062-00019696-00019926 one focus point of an ellipsoid shaped kddl988mwlU-00063-00019927-00020130 reflector that bounces the light and kddl988mwlU-00064-00020131-00020361 focuses it at the second focus point of kddl988mwlU-00065-00020362-00020655 the ellipse this focuses the beam of kddl988mwlU-00066-00020656-00020913 light into a tight beam ellipsoidal kddl988mwlU-00067-00020914-00021123 reflectors often are used for tight kddl988mwlU-00068-00021124-00021348 focusable spots although they can be kddl988mwlU-00069-00021349-00021582 used for floodlights such as in scoops kddl988mwlU-00070-00021583-00021936 see below a parabolic reflector has a kddl988mwlU-00071-00021937-00022140 lamp set at the focus point of a kddl988mwlU-00072-00022141-00022368 parabola shaped reflector that bounces kddl988mwlU-00073-00022369-00022590 the light in parallel beams away from kddl988mwlU-00074-00022591-00022878 the reflector there is no point at which kddl988mwlU-00075-00022879-00023079 the light converges so the light is kddl988mwlU-00076-00023080-00023427 unfocusable parabolic reflectors are kddl988mwlU-00077-00023428-00023637 used for lights intended to provide an kddl988mwlU-00078-00023638-00023966 unfocused wash such as Park hands kddl988mwlU-00079-00023967-00024194 reflectors can also be used to kddl988mwlU-00080-00024195-00024450 selectively reduce or eliminate unwanted kddl988mwlU-00081-00024451-00024780 thermal emission incandescent lamps kddl988mwlU-00082-00024781-00024954 produce light through heating of the kddl988mwlU-00083-00024955-00025179 filament while arc lamps produce light kddl988mwlU-00084-00025180-00025383 through the heating and ionization of kddl988mwlU-00085-00025384-00025727 the gas in either case this heat is also kddl988mwlU-00086-00025729-00025949 emitted from the lamp as infrared light kddl988mwlU-00087-00025950-00026252 the thermal energy is often projected kddl988mwlU-00088-00026253-00026433 onto the stage with the visible light kddl988mwlU-00089-00026433-00026610 and thousands of watts of incandescent kddl988mwlU-00090-00026611-00026697 light kddl988mwlU-00091-00026698-00026945 can be uncomfortably hot for the actors kddl988mwlU-00092-00026947-00027285 on stage specially designed reflectors kddl988mwlU-00093-00027286-00027444 are able to absorb and dissipate kddl988mwlU-00094-00027445-00027677 infrared at the fixture before the kddl988mwlU-00095-00027679-00028427 visible light reaches the stage topic kddl988mwlU-00096-00028429-00029027 yoke most instruments are suspended or kddl988mwlU-00097-00029029-00029289 supported by a u-shaped yoke fixed at kddl988mwlU-00098-00029289-00029439 two points to the sides of the kddl988mwlU-00099-00029439-00029714 instrument providing an axis of rotation kddl988mwlU-00100-00029714-00029976 the base of the yoke is typically a kddl988mwlU-00101-00029977-00030207 single bolt around which the yoke can be kddl988mwlU-00102-00030208-00030462 rotated providing a second axis of kddl988mwlU-00103-00030463-00030792 rotation combined together these two kddl988mwlU-00104-00030793-00031023 axis allow the fixture to point nearly kddl988mwlU-00105-00031024-00031275 anywhere in a spherical range of motion kddl988mwlU-00106-00031276-00031566 encircling the yoke the yoke is kddl988mwlU-00107-00031567-00031812 connected to a pipe or baton by one of kddl988mwlU-00108-00031813-00032108 the clamps mentioned below it may also kddl988mwlU-00109-00032110-00032343 be affixed to the deck with floor mounts kddl988mwlU-00110-00032344-00032630 or attach to the set with a stage screw kddl988mwlU-00111-00032631-00032925 some yokes are motorized allowing remote kddl988mwlU-00112-00032926-00033138 control systems to change where a kddl988mwlU-00113-00033139-00033920 fixture is pointing during a show topic kddl988mwlU-00114-00033921-00034581 attachment apparatus C clamps are hook kddl988mwlU-00115-00034582-00034776 clamps that use a threaded bolt to kddl988mwlU-00116-00034777-00034995 attach to a pipe or baton and to hold kddl988mwlU-00117-00034996-00035319 the instrument secure once secured the kddl988mwlU-00118-00035320-00035544 fixture can be panned and tilted using kddl988mwlU-00119-00035545-00035790 adjustment knobs on the yoke and clamp kddl988mwlU-00120-00035791-00036108 in addition safety cables a loop of kddl988mwlU-00121-00036109-00036294 aircraft cable terminated with kddl988mwlU-00122-00036295-00036501 carabiners are used to support the kddl988mwlU-00123-00036502-00036717 lighting instrument in case the clamp kddl988mwlU-00124-00036718-00037122 fails a sidearm is a metal pole bolted kddl988mwlU-00125-00037123-00037311 to the instrument with a clamp on the kddl988mwlU-00126-00037312-00037614 end this enables the instrument to be kddl988mwlU-00127-00037615-00037794 hung to the side of an electric as kddl988mwlU-00128-00037795-00038598 opposed to below it topic lamp or arc kddl988mwlU-00129-00038599-00039168 source most theatrical lamps are kddl988mwlU-00130-00039169-00039241 tungsten high kddl988mwlU-00131-00039242-00039409 religion or quartz halogen an kddl988mwlU-00132-00039410-00039634 improvement on the original incandescent kddl988mwlU-00133-00039635-00039904 design that used halogen gas instead of kddl988mwlU-00134-00039905-00040198 an inert gas fluorescent lights are kddl988mwlU-00135-00040199-00040384 rarely used other than as work lights kddl988mwlU-00136-00040385-00040666 see below although they are far more kddl988mwlU-00137-00040667-00040918 efficient they cannot be dimmed run at kddl988mwlU-00138-00040919-00041119 less than full power without using kddl988mwlU-00139-00041120-00041365 specialized dimmers cannot dim to very kddl988mwlU-00140-00041366-00041593 low levels do not produce light from a kddl988mwlU-00141-00041594-00041857 single point or easily concentrated area kddl988mwlU-00142-00041858-00042064 and have a warmup period during which kddl988mwlU-00143-00042065-00042262 they emit no light or do so kddl988mwlU-00144-00042263-00042547 intermittently high-intensity discharge kddl988mwlU-00145-00042548-00042823 lamps or HID lamps are now common where kddl988mwlU-00146-00042824-00043018 a very bright light output is required kddl988mwlU-00147-00043019-00043369 for example in large follow spots HMI kddl988mwlU-00148-00043370-00043669 Hydra garum medium arc iodide floods and kddl988mwlU-00149-00043670-00043993 modern automated fixtures because these kddl988mwlU-00150-00043994-00044206 types of lamps cannot be electrically kddl988mwlU-00151-00044207-00044389 dimmed dimming is done by mechanical kddl988mwlU-00152-00044390-00044650 douses or shutters that physically block kddl988mwlU-00153-00044651-00044895 portions of the lamp to decrease output kddl988mwlU-00154-00044896-00045211 some specially designed fittings now use kddl988mwlU-00155-00045212-00045490 light-emitting diodes LEDs as a light kddl988mwlU-00156-00045491-00045847 source LEDs are ideal where an intense kddl988mwlU-00157-00045848-00046063 but unfocused light source is required kddl988mwlU-00158-00046064-00046749 such as for lighting a Cyclorama kddl988mwlU-00159-00046750-00047431 topic accessories conventional non kddl988mwlU-00160-00047432-00047647 intelligent fixtures are designed to kddl988mwlU-00161-00047648-00047860 accept a number of different accessories kddl988mwlU-00162-00047861-00048049 intended to assist in the modification kddl988mwlU-00163-00048050-00048400 of the output the most common found on kddl988mwlU-00164-00048401-00048655 almost all stage lights is the gel frame kddl988mwlU-00165-00048656-00048988 holder the gel frame holder is intended kddl988mwlU-00166-00048989-00049222 to hold gel mounted in cardboard or kddl988mwlU-00167-00049223-00049495 metal gel frames other common kddl988mwlU-00168-00049496-00049732 accessories include gobo holders or kddl988mwlU-00169-00049733-00050041 rotators iris holders donuts barn doors kddl988mwlU-00170-00050042-00051169 and color scrollers topic types kddl988mwlU-00171-00051170-00051385 lighting instruments can be broadly kddl988mwlU-00172-00051386-00051646 separated into two categories flood kddl988mwlU-00173-00051647-00051886 lights which illuminate a wide area and kddl988mwlU-00174-00051887-00052147 spotlights sometimes known as profiles kddl988mwlU-00175-00052148-00052339 which produce a narrower more kddl988mwlU-00176-00052340-00052617 controllable light beam the distinction kddl988mwlU-00177-00052619-00052849 has to do with the characteristics of kddl988mwlU-00178-00052850-00053091 the light produced by the instrument kddl988mwlU-00179-00053091-00053377 spotlights producer potentially tightly kddl988mwlU-00180-00053378-00053602 focused light while flood lights produce kddl988mwlU-00181-00053603-00053902 a much more diffuse light instruments kddl988mwlU-00182-00053903-00054088 that fall somewhere in the middle of the kddl988mwlU-00183-00054089-00054304 spectrum can be classified as either a kddl988mwlU-00184-00054304-00054529 spot or a flood depending on the type of kddl988mwlU-00185-00054529-00055303 instrument and how it is used topic kddl988mwlU-00186-00055304-00056629 stage lights topic par lights parabolic kddl988mwlU-00187-00056629-00056848 aluminized reflector lights or par kddl988mwlU-00188-00056849-00057076 lights or Park hands are used when a kddl988mwlU-00189-00057077-00057295 substantial amount of flat lighting is kddl988mwlU-00190-00057296-00057598 required for a scene a Parkin is a kddl988mwlU-00191-00057599-00057811 sealed beam power lamp housed in a kddl988mwlU-00192-00057812-00058080 simple can like unit like an kddl988mwlU-00193-00058082-00058291 old-fashioned automotive headlight the kddl988mwlU-00194-00058291-00058495 reflector is integral to the lamp and kddl988mwlU-00195-00058496-00058680 the beam spread of the unit is not kddl988mwlU-00196-00058682-00058923 adjustable except by changing the lamp kddl988mwlU-00197-00058924-00059179 power lamps are widely used in kddl988mwlU-00198-00059179-00059391 architectural lighting and may often be kddl988mwlU-00199-00059392-00059734 found at hardware stores par lights have kddl988mwlU-00200-00059735-00059959 seen heavy use in rock and roll shows kddl988mwlU-00201-00059960-00060166 especially those with smaller budgets kddl988mwlU-00202-00060166-00060421 due to their low cost lightweight easy kddl988mwlU-00203-00060422-00060691 maintenance high durability and high kddl988mwlU-00204-00060691-00060952 output they are often used in kddl988mwlU-00205-00060953-00061201 combination with smoke or haze machines kddl988mwlU-00206-00061202-00061423 which make the path of the beam visible kddl988mwlU-00207-00061424-00061741 they are also often used as top back or kddl988mwlU-00208-00061741-00061927 side lights in the theater and for kddl988mwlU-00209-00061928-00062280 special effects all par lamps except kddl988mwlU-00210-00062282-00062521 those with narrow or very narrow lenses kddl988mwlU-00211-00062522-00062746 produce an intense oval pool of light kddl988mwlU-00212-00062747-00063105 some with fixed focus and soft edges in kddl988mwlU-00213-00063107-00063337 order to adjust the orientation of the kddl988mwlU-00214-00063338-00063685 oval the lamp must be rotated the number kddl988mwlU-00215-00063686-00064039 associated with a par light eg par 64 kddl988mwlU-00216-00064040-00064404 par 36 past 16 indicates the diameter of kddl988mwlU-00217-00064405-00064546 the lamp in eighths of an kddl988mwlU-00218-00064547-00064767 inch for different beam angles can be kddl988mwlU-00219-00064769-00065128 obtained on the past 64 the beam angle kddl988mwlU-00220-00065129-00065422 is determined by the lamp lamps come in kddl988mwlU-00221-00065423-00065833 very narrow six degrees by 12 degrees kddl988mwlU-00222-00065834-00066249 narrow seven degrees by fourteen degrees kddl988mwlU-00223-00066250-00066667 medium twelve degrees by 28 degrees and kddl988mwlU-00224-00066668-00067222 wide 24 degrees by 48 degrees each angle kddl988mwlU-00225-00067223-00067495 has two numerical values since the beams kddl988mwlU-00226-00067496-00067804 are elliptical rather than circular par kddl988mwlU-00227-00067805-00068019 sixteens are often referred to as kddl988mwlU-00228-00068020-00068458 birdies power bars are aluminum pipes kddl988mwlU-00229-00068459-00068707 with Park hands permanently attached and kddl988mwlU-00230-00068708-00068980 circuited through the pipe power bars kddl988mwlU-00231-00068981-00069181 with four instruments are often referred kddl988mwlU-00232-00069182-00069463 to as four bars and power bars with six kddl988mwlU-00233-00069464-00069726 instruments are referred to as six bars kddl988mwlU-00234-00069727-00070176 in 1995 electronic theater controls etc kddl988mwlU-00235-00070177-00070426 introduced the source for power as an kddl988mwlU-00236-00070427-00070798 alternative to Park hands the source for kddl988mwlU-00237-00070799-00071041 power uses a lamp separate from the lens kddl988mwlU-00238-00071042-00071809 and reflector assemblies topic strip kddl988mwlU-00239-00071810-00072361 lights strip lights also known as kddl988mwlU-00240-00072362-00072442 cyclorama kddl988mwlU-00241-00072443-00072703 or cyc lights thus named because they kddl988mwlU-00242-00072704-00072880 are effective for lighting the Cyclorama kddl988mwlU-00243-00072881-00073084 a curtain at the back of the stage kddl988mwlU-00244-00073085-00073315 border lights and Coda's by the brand kddl988mwlU-00245-00073316-00073573 name along housings typically containing kddl988mwlU-00246-00073574-00073795 multiple lamps arranged along the length kddl988mwlU-00247-00073796-00073969 of the instrument and emitting light kddl988mwlU-00248-00073970-00074281 perpendicular to its length lamps are kddl988mwlU-00249-00074282-00074482 often covered with gels of multiple kddl988mwlU-00250-00074483-00074785 colors often red green and blue which in kddl988mwlU-00251-00074786-00075034 theory allow almost any color to be kddl988mwlU-00252-00075035-00075235 mixed with each color controlled by a kddl988mwlU-00253-00075236-00075547 separate electrical dimmer circuit many kddl988mwlU-00254-00075548-00075772 strip lights use round pieces of glass kddl988mwlU-00255-00075773-00076027 called roundels rather than plastic gels kddl988mwlU-00256-00076028-00076369 for color roundels can sustain heavy use kddl988mwlU-00257-00076370-00076591 for a long time without fading and are kddl988mwlU-00258-00076592-00076762 often found in more permanent kddl988mwlU-00259-00076763-00077374 installations kddl988mwlU-00260-00077375-00077959 topic scoop lights scoop lights or kddl988mwlU-00261-00077960-00078181 scoops are circular fixtures that do not kddl988mwlU-00262-00078182-00078499 have any lenses they have an ellipsoidal kddl988mwlU-00263-00078500-00078703 reflector at the back of the fixture kddl988mwlU-00264-00078704-00078856 that directs the light out of the kddl988mwlU-00265-00078857-00079174 fixture since they do not have any sort kddl988mwlU-00266-00079175-00079351 of lens system they are cheaper than kddl988mwlU-00267-00079352-00079699 other fixtures however the light cannot kddl988mwlU-00268-00079700-00079948 be focused at all even Parrs allow more kddl988mwlU-00269-00079949-00080260 control than scoops scoops are most kddl988mwlU-00270-00080261-00080470 often used to flood the stage with light kddl988mwlU-00271-00080471-00080812 from above or to light backdrops scoops kddl988mwlU-00272-00080813-00081106 can have gels affixed occasionally they kddl988mwlU-00273-00081107-00081832 are used as work lights see below topic kddl988mwlU-00274-00081833-00082399 house lights and work lights house kddl988mwlU-00275-00082400-00082591 lights provide light on the theater kddl988mwlU-00276-00082592-00082825 seats and aisles for the audience before kddl988mwlU-00277-00082826-00083023 and after performances and during kddl988mwlU-00278-00083024-00083119 intermissions kddl988mwlU-00279-00083120-00083422 they are generally incandescent lights kddl988mwlU-00280-00083423-00083659 however fluorescent lights or scoops may kddl988mwlU-00281-00083660-00083989 be used in some instances house lights kddl988mwlU-00282-00083990-00084202 are often controlled by dimmers but are kddl988mwlU-00283-00084203-00084538 sometimes on simple switches work lights kddl988mwlU-00284-00084539-00084790 provide general lighting backstage or in kddl988mwlU-00285-00084791-00084988 the house and are often fluorescent kddl988mwlU-00286-00084989-00085306 fixtures work lights are almost always kddl988mwlU-00287-00085307-00085666 non dimmed house and work lights are kddl988mwlU-00288-00085667-00085906 usually off during performances but are kddl988mwlU-00289-00085907-00086104 occasionally included in the lighting kddl988mwlU-00290-00086105-00086365 design to establish focus or emphasize kddl988mwlU-00291-00086366-00086680 plot elements when the house lights are kddl988mwlU-00292-00086681-00086893 not on a dimmer the switch is usually kddl988mwlU-00293-00086894-00087552 under the control of the stage manager kddl988mwlU-00294-00087553-00088185 topic LED stage lights kddl988mwlU-00295-00088186-00088425 LEDs stage lighting instruments our kddl988mwlU-00296-00088426-00088611 stage lighting instruments that use kddl988mwlU-00297-00088612-00088875 light-emitting diodes LEDs as a light kddl988mwlU-00298-00088876-00089088 source LED instruments are an kddl988mwlU-00299-00089089-00089280 alternative to traditional stage kddl988mwlU-00300-00089281-00089511 lighting instruments which use halogen kddl988mwlU-00301-00089512-00089774 lamp or high-intensity discharge lamps kddl988mwlU-00302-00089775-00090090 like other LED instruments they have kddl988mwlU-00303-00090091-00090273 high light output with lower power kddl988mwlU-00304-00090274-00090672 consumption most LED fixtures use three kddl988mwlU-00305-00090673-00090930 or more colors usually red green and kddl988mwlU-00306-00090931-00091098 blue which can be mixed to kddl988mwlU-00307-00091099-00091803 hypothetically create any color topic kddl988mwlU-00308-00091804-00092444 types LED stage lights come in four main kddl988mwlU-00309-00092445-00092801 types Park hands spotlights strip lights kddl988mwlU-00310-00092802-00093285 and moving head types in LED park hands kddl988mwlU-00311-00093286-00093546 a round printed circuit board with LEDs kddl988mwlU-00312-00093547-00093780 mounted on is used in place of a par kddl988mwlU-00313-00093781-00094086 lamp moving head types can either be a kddl988mwlU-00314-00094087-00094359 Bank of LEDs mounted on a yoke or more kddl988mwlU-00315-00094360-00094575 conventional moving headlights with the kddl988mwlU-00316-00094576-00095304 bulb replaced with an LED bank topic kddl988mwlU-00317-00095305-00095913 uses LED instruments can and have been kddl988mwlU-00318-00095914-00096105 used to replace any conventional kddl988mwlU-00319-00096106-00096348 lighting fixture and some shows such as kddl988mwlU-00320-00096349-00096603 radio heads recent tour have used only kddl988mwlU-00321-00096604-00096996 LED lighting instruments most shows use kddl988mwlU-00322-00096997-00097268 LEDs only for lighting cyclorama x' or kddl988mwlU-00323-00097269-00097532 as top side or backlight due to their kddl988mwlU-00324-00097533-00097842 low throw distance they can also be used kddl988mwlU-00325-00097843-00098091 as audience blinders lights pointed kddl988mwlU-00326-00098092-00098292 directly at the audience from a low kddl988mwlU-00327-00098293-00099462 angle topic spotlights a spotlight is kddl988mwlU-00328-00099463-00099693 any lighting instrument used in theatre kddl988mwlU-00329-00099694-00099929 to create a pool of light on the stage kddl988mwlU-00330-00099930-00100163 there are many different types of kddl988mwlU-00331-00100164-00100374 spotlights which break down into three kddl988mwlU-00332-00100375-00100700 general areas Fresnel lanterns or kddl988mwlU-00333-00100701-00101006 fresnels us are small fixtures giving a kddl988mwlU-00334-00101007-00101304 soft edge spot or pool of light their kddl988mwlU-00335-00101305-00101505 name comes from the distinctive ridged kddl988mwlU-00336-00101506-00101580 Fresnel kddl988mwlU-00337-00101581-00102015 used on the front profile spots UK or kddl988mwlU-00338-00102016-00102324 ellipsoidal reflector spotlights us tend kddl988mwlU-00339-00102325-00102557 to be longer fixtures containing convex kddl988mwlU-00340-00102558-00102777 lenses and having a gate at their focal kddl988mwlU-00341-00102778-00102975 point which enables the insertion of kddl988mwlU-00342-00102976-00103211 gobos or irises to shape the beam of kddl988mwlU-00343-00103213-00103503 light they give a hard-edged beam most kddl988mwlU-00344-00103504-00103768 often associated in the public mind with kddl988mwlU-00345-00103769-00104151 spotlights large versions are operated kddl988mwlU-00346-00104152-00104373 by a technician as a follow spot to kddl988mwlU-00347-00104374-00104676 follow performers on the stage the term kddl988mwlU-00348-00104677-00104976 profile spot used in the UK refers to a kddl988mwlU-00349-00104977-00105222 focusing spotlight which may or may not kddl988mwlU-00350-00105223-00105417 use the ellipsoidal reflector design kddl988mwlU-00351-00105418-00105657 this design was not common in the UK kddl988mwlU-00352-00105658-00106028 until the 1970s and many UK and European kddl988mwlU-00353-00106029-00106266 manufacturers have still to adopt this kddl988mwlU-00354-00106267-00106535 design instead preferring a twin PC lens kddl988mwlU-00355-00106536-00107033 design pebble convex Lanterns or pcs are kddl988mwlU-00356-00107034-00107295 similar to fresnels but use a Plano kddl988mwlU-00357-00107296-00107526 convex lens with a pebble defect on the kddl988mwlU-00358-00107527-00107889 planar flat side resulting in less spill kddl988mwlU-00359-00107890-00108219 outside the main beam they are used much kddl988mwlU-00360-00108220-00108875 more widely in Europe than North America kddl988mwlU-00361-00108876-00109416 topic Fresnel lantern kddl988mwlU-00362-00109417-00109758 a Fresnel Lantern UK or simply Fresnel kddl988mwlU-00363-00109759-00110016 u.s. employs a Fresnel lens to wash kddl988mwlU-00364-00110017-00110340 light over an area of the stage the lens kddl988mwlU-00365-00110341-00110593 is named after French physicist Augustin kddl988mwlU-00366-00110594-00110848 Jane Fresnel and consequently pronounced kddl988mwlU-00367-00110849-00111232 with a silent s the distinctive lens has kddl988mwlU-00368-00111233-00111448 a stepped appearance instead of the full kddl988mwlU-00369-00111449-00111684 or smooth appearance of those used in kddl988mwlU-00370-00111685-00111975 other lanterns the resulting beam of kddl988mwlU-00371-00111976-00112222 light is wide and soft edged creating kddl988mwlU-00372-00112223-00112452 soft shadows and is commonly used for kddl988mwlU-00373-00112453-00112700 backlight top light and side light kddl988mwlU-00374-00112701-00112957 another method of controlling the spread kddl988mwlU-00375-00112958-00113218 of light is to use either a top hat also kddl988mwlU-00376-00113219-00113433 referred to as a snoot which generally kddl988mwlU-00377-00113434-00113640 limits the light coming out or a barn kddl988mwlU-00378-00113641-00113833 door whose flaps work as though they kddl988mwlU-00379-00113833-00114027 were shutters on a nurse shown on the kddl988mwlU-00380-00114028-00114336 right these methods limit light output kddl988mwlU-00381-00114337-00114564 and keep excess light from spilling into kddl988mwlU-00382-00114565-00114781 the eyes of audience members or where it kddl988mwlU-00383-00114782-00115156 is not desired fresnels use a spherical kddl988mwlU-00384-00115157-00115369 reflector with the lamp at the focus kddl988mwlU-00385-00115370-00115659 point the lamp and reflector remain a kddl988mwlU-00386-00115660-00115894 fixed unit inside the housing and are kddl988mwlU-00387-00115895-00116088 moved forward and back to focus the kddl988mwlU-00388-00116089-00116352 light this is accomplished using a kddl988mwlU-00389-00116353-00116541 slider on the bottom or side of the kddl988mwlU-00390-00116542-00116874 lantern or using a worm track at very kddl988mwlU-00391-00116875-00117102 tight focus the lanterns are the least kddl988mwlU-00392-00117103-00117303 efficient as the least light can escape kddl988mwlU-00393-00117304-00117646 the housing therefore fresnels are not kddl988mwlU-00394-00117647-00117999 good for tight focus on small areas they kddl988mwlU-00395-00118000-00118236 are most often used at medium distances kddl988mwlU-00396-00118237-00118570 from the stage for area lighting in 1999 kddl988mwlU-00397-00118571-00118851 etc introduced a new lighting fixture kddl988mwlU-00398-00118852-00119079 the source for panel which combined the kddl988mwlU-00399-00119080-00119274 design of the par fixture with that of kddl988mwlU-00400-00119275-00119521 the Fresnel the fixture is more kddl988mwlU-00401-00119522-00119743 versatile allowing for a flood or a kddl988mwlU-00402-00119744-00120561 softer spot topic ellipsoidal reflector kddl988mwlU-00403-00120562-00121089 spotlight the ellipsoidal reflector kddl988mwlU-00404-00121090-00121365 spotlight is also known as profile after kddl988mwlU-00405-00121366-00121599 its ability to project the silhouette or kddl988mwlU-00406-00121600-00121860 profile of anything put in the gate UK kddl988mwlU-00407-00121861-00122088 and des coop a French is the most kddl988mwlU-00408-00122089-00122301 abundant instrument type currently in kddl988mwlU-00409-00122302-00122632 theatrical use the flexibility of the kddl988mwlU-00410-00122633-00122811 earth allows it to fulfill the kddl988mwlU-00411-00122813-00123001 bulk of lighting roles in the theater kddl988mwlU-00412-00123002-00123289 they are sometimes known as a profile kddl988mwlU-00413-00123290-00123510 spotlight in Europe or by their brand kddl988mwlU-00414-00123511-00123730 names especially the source for a kddl988mwlU-00415-00123731-00123997 popular lantern from etc and to the lake kddl988mwlU-00416-00123998-00124039 Oh kddl988mwlU-00417-00124040-00124255 short for leg light from strand lighting kddl988mwlU-00418-00124256-00124468 the major components of an earth light kddl988mwlU-00419-00124469-00124663 are the casing in which the internal kddl988mwlU-00420-00124664-00124836 parts are mounted an ellipsoidal kddl988mwlU-00421-00124838-00125044 reflector located in the back of the kddl988mwlU-00422-00125045-00125275 casing a lamp mounted to position the kddl988mwlU-00423-00125276-00125479 filament at the rear focal point of the kddl988mwlU-00424-00125480-00125764 ellipsoid a dual plano-convex lens two kddl988mwlU-00425-00125765-00126022 plano convex lenses facing each other in kddl988mwlU-00426-00126023-00126261 the barrel and at the front a gel frame kddl988mwlU-00427-00126263-00126558 to hold the color gel the light from the kddl988mwlU-00428-00126559-00126735 lamp is efficiently gathered by the kddl988mwlU-00429-00126736-00126967 ellipsoidal reflector and sent forward kddl988mwlU-00430-00126968-00127153 through the gate shutters and lens kddl988mwlU-00431-00127154-00127549 system or profile lanterns have many kddl988mwlU-00432-00127550-00127836 useful features one of the most useful kddl988mwlU-00433-00127838-00128044 are the metal shutters at the focal kddl988mwlU-00434-00128045-00128239 plane of the lens to shape the beam of kddl988mwlU-00435-00128240-00128533 light the original shape of the beam is kddl988mwlU-00436-00128533-00128736 round but with the use of the shutters kddl988mwlU-00437-00128738-00128910 one can limit the beam to avoid kddl988mwlU-00438-00128911-00129108 obstacles or parts of the set that kddl988mwlU-00439-00129109-00129301 should not be illuminated in a specific kddl988mwlU-00440-00129302-00129660 look another feature is a gate also in kddl988mwlU-00441-00129661-00129895 the focal plane for sliding in gobos kddl988mwlU-00442-00129896-00130243 also known as templates or decals these kddl988mwlU-00443-00130244-00130456 have patterns cut into them much like a kddl988mwlU-00444-00130457-00130720 stencil these patterns are projected kddl988mwlU-00445-00130721-00131014 onto the stage an iris can be also be kddl988mwlU-00446-00131015-00131239 inserted in this position to make the kddl988mwlU-00447-00131240-00131485 beam smaller in diameter reducing the kddl988mwlU-00448-00131486-00131680 light cast without the sharp edges of kddl988mwlU-00449-00131681-00132016 the shutters as instruments from etc kddl988mwlU-00450-00132017-00132310 Altman silicon and a variety of others kddl988mwlU-00451-00132311-00132511 have interchangeable lens tubes or kddl988mwlU-00452-00132512-00132730 barrels which can both create a very kddl988mwlU-00453-00132731-00132991 sharp or very soft beam as well as alter kddl988mwlU-00454-00132992-00133279 the beam spread the barrel sizes can kddl988mwlU-00455-00133280-00133549 range from a narrow long distance 5 or kddl988mwlU-00456-00133550-00133765 10 degree spot to a broad and short kddl988mwlU-00457-00133766-00134128 distance 50 or even 90 degree the first kddl988mwlU-00458-00134129-00134404 90 degree profile lantern was developed kddl988mwlU-00459-00134405-00134641 by silicon performance lighting as part kddl988mwlU-00460-00134642-00135034 of their Pacific range of products since kddl988mwlU-00461-00135035-00135190 its introduction many other kddl988mwlU-00462-00135191-00135409 manufacturers have introduced their own kddl988mwlU-00463-00135410-00135778 90 degree barrels as instruments allow kddl988mwlU-00464-00135779-00136003 many different lens tubes to be used kddl988mwlU-00465-00136004-00136179 with the same body kddl988mwlU-00466-00136180-00136434 this makes them more versatile since a kddl988mwlU-00467-00136435-00136635 venue can purchase varying degrees of kddl988mwlU-00468-00136636-00136815 barrels without buying as many kddl988mwlU-00469-00136816-00137139 instruments many manufacturers also kddl988mwlU-00470-00137140-00137370 produce zoom lenses which offer the kddl988mwlU-00471-00137371-00137683 ability to change the beam angle some kddl988mwlU-00472-00137684-00137901 zoom ranges have a poorer optical kddl988mwlU-00473-00137902-00138129 quality making them difficult to use in kddl988mwlU-00474-00138130-00139209 sharp focus topic field angle the field kddl988mwlU-00475-00139210-00139432 angle of an instrument is the angle of kddl988mwlU-00476-00139433-00139681 the beam of light where it reaches 10% kddl988mwlU-00477-00139682-00139872 of the intensity of the center of the kddl988mwlU-00478-00139873-00140223 beam most manufacturers now use field kddl988mwlU-00479-00140224-00140424 angle to indicate the spread that the kddl988mwlU-00480-00140425-00140770 fixture has however older fixtures are kddl988mwlU-00481-00140771-00140970 described by the width of the lens X kddl988mwlU-00482-00140971-00141240 focal length of the instrument for kddl988mwlU-00483-00141241-00141579 example a 6x9 ellipsoidal would have a 6 kddl988mwlU-00484-00141580-00141945 lens and a focal length of 9 inches kddl988mwlU-00485-00141946-00142260 creating an approximately 37 degrees kddl988mwlU-00486-00142261-00142536 beam angle this nomenclature was used kddl988mwlU-00487-00142537-00142722 because traditionally a larger lens kddl988mwlU-00488-00142723-00142982 directly equated with more light output kddl988mwlU-00489-00142983-00143334 this is no longer necessarily true so kddl988mwlU-00490-00143335-00143593 most manufacturers now identify their kddl988mwlU-00491-00143594-00143832 fixtures by beam angle and light output kddl988mwlU-00492-00143833-00144102 as the field angle narrows the kddl988mwlU-00493-00144103-00144300 instrument can either be used further kddl988mwlU-00494-00144301-00144504 from the stage to create a similarly kddl988mwlU-00495-00144505-00144774 sized beam as a closer larger instrument kddl988mwlU-00496-00144775-00145002 or it can be used from the same distance kddl988mwlU-00497-00145003-00145744 to create a smaller beam topic beam kddl988mwlU-00498-00145745-00146316 projector a beam projector is a lensless kddl988mwlU-00499-00146317-00146553 instrument with very little beam spread kddl988mwlU-00500-00146554-00146913 it uses two reflectors the primary kddl988mwlU-00501-00146914-00147159 reflector is a parabolic reflector and kddl988mwlU-00502-00147160-00147363 the secondary reflector is a spherical kddl988mwlU-00503-00147364-00147672 reflector the parabolic reflector kddl988mwlU-00504-00147673-00147882 directs the light into nearly parallel kddl988mwlU-00505-00147883-00148101 beams and the spherical reflector is kddl988mwlU-00506-00148102-00148314 placed in front of the lamp to reflect kddl988mwlU-00507-00148315-00148470 light from the lamp back to the kddl988mwlU-00508-00148471-00148728 parabolic reflector which reduces spill kddl988mwlU-00509-00148729-00149010 the result is an intense shaft of light kddl988mwlU-00510-00149011-00149247 that cannot be easily controlled or kddl988mwlU-00511-00149248-00149552 modified the beam projector no long kddl988mwlU-00512-00149553-00149771 is used to the extent that it once was kddl988mwlU-00513-00149772-00150008 as newer fixtures and power lamps have kddl988mwlU-00514-00150009-00150227 created easier ways to produce the kddl988mwlU-00515-00150228-00151319 effect topic follow spot the follow spot kddl988mwlU-00516-00151320-00151580 also called a spotlight track spot lime kddl988mwlU-00517-00151581-00151880 UK or dome is a lighting instrument that kddl988mwlU-00518-00151881-00152075 is moved during a performance by an kddl988mwlU-00519-00152076-00152351 operator or by DMX control to provide kddl988mwlU-00520-00152352-00152573 emphasis or extra illumination and kddl988mwlU-00521-00152574-00152807 usually to follow a specific performer kddl988mwlU-00522-00152808-00153140 moving around the stage follow spots are kddl988mwlU-00523-00153141-00153347 commonly used in musical theater and kddl988mwlU-00524-00153348-00153524 opera to highlight the stars of a kddl988mwlU-00525-00153525-00153773 performance but may be used in dramas as kddl988mwlU-00526-00153774-00154106 well they are also used in sports venues kddl988mwlU-00527-00154107-00154367 as well as many other applications these kddl988mwlU-00528-00154368-00154547 lighting instruments come in a variety kddl988mwlU-00529-00154548-00154838 of sizes with light sources ranging from kddl988mwlU-00530-00154839-00155051 low power incandescent light bulbs to kddl988mwlU-00531-00155052-00155429 very powerful xenon arc lamps carbon arc kddl988mwlU-00532-00155430-00155726 lamp spots were common until the 1990s kddl988mwlU-00533-00155727-00155981 using the arc between carbon rods as kddl988mwlU-00534-00155982-00156085 their light source kddl988mwlU-00535-00156086-00156392 these follows spots required special kddl988mwlU-00536-00156393-00156611 installations that include high volume kddl988mwlU-00537-00156612-00156839 ventilation due to the hazardous fumes kddl988mwlU-00538-00156840-00157148 produced by the carbon arc the current kddl988mwlU-00539-00157149-00157391 generation xenon has extremely high kddl988mwlU-00540-00157392-00157616 internal pressure in the lamp and thus kddl988mwlU-00541-00157617-00157895 has its own safety concerns follow spots kddl988mwlU-00542-00157896-00158153 contain a variety of operator controlled kddl988mwlU-00543-00158154-00158450 optical mechanisms they may include kddl988mwlU-00544-00158451-00158645 mechanical shutters which allow the kddl988mwlU-00545-00158646-00158837 light to be doused without turning off kddl988mwlU-00546-00158838-00159077 the lamp lenses to control and focus kddl988mwlU-00547-00159078-00159341 beam width and internal color gels often kddl988mwlU-00548-00159342-00160139 in a color magazine topic intelligent kddl988mwlU-00549-00160140-00160651 lighting moving lights or kddl988mwlU-00550-00160652-00160837 intelligent fixtures began to gain kddl988mwlU-00551-00160838-00161053 widespread acceptance in the concert kddl988mwlU-00552-00161054-00161413 industry in the early 1980s as the kddl988mwlU-00553-00161414-00161635 digital age progressed the cost of these kddl988mwlU-00554-00161636-00161803 fixtures reduced and they are kddl988mwlU-00555-00161804-00161980 increasingly used in many major kddl988mwlU-00556-00161981-00162235 theatrical productions their principal kddl988mwlU-00557-00162236-00162421 feature is the ability to remotely kddl988mwlU-00558-00162422-00162673 control the movement and characteristics kddl988mwlU-00559-00162674-00162931 of the output beam of light this is kddl988mwlU-00560-00162932-00163153 achieved by either moving a mirror which kddl988mwlU-00561-00163154-00163357 reflects the beam or by moving the kddl988mwlU-00562-00163358-00163615 entire fixture which can pan and tilt by kddl988mwlU-00563-00163616-00163936 means of a motorized yoke usually they kddl988mwlU-00564-00163937-00164161 also contain other controls to shape kddl988mwlU-00565-00164162-00164410 texture and color the light such as gobo kddl988mwlU-00566-00164411-00164707 or dichroic wheels this ability to kddl988mwlU-00567-00164708-00164935 precisely and repeatedly set the kddl988mwlU-00568-00164936-00165154 position of the fixture allows one light kddl988mwlU-00569-00165155-00165382 to perform many functions lighting kddl988mwlU-00570-00165383-00165595 multiple different areas in different kddl988mwlU-00571-00165596-00165904 ways they can also move live with the kddl988mwlU-00572-00165905-00166144 lamp on to achieve many of the effects kddl988mwlU-00573-00166145-00166501 used in modern productions the majority kddl988mwlU-00574-00166502-00166687 of intelligent fixtures employ our kddl988mwlU-00575-00166688-00166936 clamps as a light source and therefore kddl988mwlU-00576-00166937-00167194 use a variety of mechanical methods to kddl988mwlU-00577-00167195-00167455 achieve the effect of dimming some kddl988mwlU-00578-00167456-00167748 fixtures employ standard halogen lamps kddl988mwlU-00579-00167749-00168022 mechanically stepper motors connected to kddl988mwlU-00580-00168023-00168283 various internal optical devices such as kddl988mwlU-00581-00168284-00168535 gobos and color wheels manipulate the kddl988mwlU-00582-00168536-00168733 light before it escapes the fixtures kddl988mwlU-00583-00168734-00169096 front lens discharge fixtures are seeing kddl988mwlU-00584-00169097-00169315 competitive advantages from the LED kddl988mwlU-00585-00169316-00169561 industry take place and many companies kddl988mwlU-00586-00169562-00169759 are now offering an LED based kddl988mwlU-00587-00169760-00169993 intelligent lighting fixture across all kddl988mwlU-00588-00169994-00170209 arena's of intelligent lighting genre kddl988mwlU-00589-00170210-00170467 from wash fixtures to spot fixtures beam kddl988mwlU-00590-00170468-00170686 type fixtures and hybrid units that kddl988mwlU-00591-00170687-00170982 incorporate two or all of these types kddl988mwlU-00592-00170983-00171256 moving light programs are often much kddl988mwlU-00593-00171257-00171463 more complex than that of stationary kddl988mwlU-00594-00171464-00171763 instruments while it is possible to kddl988mwlU-00595-00171764-00171991 operate them with any console that uses kddl988mwlU-00596-00171992-00172369 the DMX 512 protocol many lighting board kddl988mwlU-00597-00172370-00172633 operators find the console dedicated to kddl988mwlU-00598-00172634-00172852 moving light operation to be much more kddl988mwlU-00599-00172853-00173119 efficient oftentimes there will be kddl988mwlU-00600-00173120-00173344 encoder wheels which will control the kddl988mwlU-00601-00173345-00173682 pan tilt focus zoom color and effects kddl988mwlU-00602-00173683-00174034 many people find visualization software kddl988mwlU-00603-00174035-00174433 such as wys wi j Vectorworks and others kddl988mwlU-00604-00174434-00174643 to be helpful when programming while kddl988mwlU-00605-00174644-00174864 other people prefer a hard tactile kddl988mwlU-00606-00174865-00175186 control intelligent lights are used kddl988mwlU-00607-00175187-00175425 heavily in shows in very large venues kddl988mwlU-00608-00175426-00175672 like events in stadiums where it is very kddl988mwlU-00609-00175673-00175899 difficult to reach lighting trusses for kddl988mwlU-00610-00175900-00176206 manual focusing although the fixtures kddl988mwlU-00611-00176207-00176400 may not be moved during the run of the kddl988mwlU-00612-00176401-00176794 show they are focused remotely kdDRsdYwUPk-00000-00000050-00000264 over the millennia of its development kdDRsdYwUPk-00001-00000265-00000493 Hinduism has adopted several iconic kdDRsdYwUPk-00002-00000494-00000673 symbols forming part of Hindu kdDRsdYwUPk-00003-00000674-00000823 iconography that are imbued with kdDRsdYwUPk-00004-00000824-00001008 spiritual meaning based on either the kdDRsdYwUPk-00005-00001009-00001264 scriptures or cultural traditions the kdDRsdYwUPk-00006-00001265-00001474 exact significance accorded to any of kdDRsdYwUPk-00007-00001475-00001714 the icons varies with region period and kdDRsdYwUPk-00008-00001714-00002001 denomination of the followers over time kdDRsdYwUPk-00009-00002002-00002179 some of the symbols for instance the kdDRsdYwUPk-00010-00002180-00002334 swastika has come to have wider kdDRsdYwUPk-00011-00002335-00002566 association while others like AUM are kdDRsdYwUPk-00012-00002567-00002779 recognized as unique representations of kdDRsdYwUPk-00013-00002780-00003027 Hinduism other aspects of Hindu kdDRsdYwUPk-00014-00003028-00003210 iconography are covered by the terms kdDRsdYwUPk-00015-00003211-00003445 murdie for icons and mudra for gestures kdDRsdYwUPk-00016-00003446-00003919 and positions of the hands and body kdDRsdYwUPk-00017-00003920-00004469 topic Hindu sacraments kdDRsdYwUPk-00018-00004470-00004742 hindu sacraments are physical objects or kdDRsdYwUPk-00019-00004743-00004934 markings that are considered sacred and kdDRsdYwUPk-00020-00004935-00005099 used as a sign of devotion by the kdDRsdYwUPk-00021-00005100-00005339 followers of sanatana-dharma hinduism kdDRsdYwUPk-00022-00005340-00005615 these are often objects associated with kdDRsdYwUPk-00023-00005616-00006116 a puja prayer or religious ceremony kdDRsdYwUPk-00024-00006117-00006591 topic tilaka kdDRsdYwUPk-00025-00006592-00006860 the Teleca or Tillich is a mark worn on kdDRsdYwUPk-00026-00006861-00007038 the forehead or other parts of the body kdDRsdYwUPk-00027-00007039-00007341 as a sign of spiritual devotion Hindus kdDRsdYwUPk-00028-00007342-00007514 may wear a tilaka regularly or kdDRsdYwUPk-00029-00007515-00007755 especially on religious occasions the kdDRsdYwUPk-00030-00007756-00007910 shape of the tilaka is often an kdDRsdYwUPk-00031-00007911-00008127 indicator of devotion to a certain deity kdDRsdYwUPk-00032-00008128-00008484 for example a u-shaped tilaka usually kdDRsdYwUPk-00033-00008485-00008694 denotes devotion to Vishnu while Shiva kdDRsdYwUPk-00034-00008695-00008877 devotees often wear it in the form of kdDRsdYwUPk-00035-00008878-00009159 three horizontal lines it may be made of kdDRsdYwUPk-00036-00009160-00009399 saffron Vermillion turmeric clay are kdDRsdYwUPk-00037-00009400-00009689 simply ash to denote marriage and kdDRsdYwUPk-00038-00009690-00009866 auspiciousness married Hindu women kdDRsdYwUPk-00039-00009867-00010071 commonly wear a decorative vermilion dot kdDRsdYwUPk-00040-00010072-00010377 or Bindu or bindi on the forehead this kdDRsdYwUPk-00041-00010378-00010577 is analogous to a wedding ring worn in kdDRsdYwUPk-00042-00010578-00010835 Western countries in southern India the kdDRsdYwUPk-00043-00010836-00011019 mark is called pata or Bato kdDRsdYwUPk-00044-00011020-00011339 the exact shape size and location of the kdDRsdYwUPk-00045-00011340-00011519 bindi or pot who shows regional kdDRsdYwUPk-00046-00011520-00011744 variation for instance in northern India kdDRsdYwUPk-00047-00011745-00011937 the bindi is often worn just below the kdDRsdYwUPk-00048-00011938-00012126 hairline while in southern India it is kdDRsdYwUPk-00049-00012127-00012273 more common to wear it between the kdDRsdYwUPk-00050-00012274-00012573 eyebrows in East India especially in kdDRsdYwUPk-00051-00012574-00012816 West Bengal traditionally larger bindis kdDRsdYwUPk-00052-00012816-00012993 are worn as mark of devotion towards kdDRsdYwUPk-00053-00012994-00013402 goddess durga kdDRsdYwUPk-00054-00013403-00013828 topic the booty kdDRsdYwUPk-00055-00013829-00014080 the booty is the holy ash obtained from kdDRsdYwUPk-00056-00014081-00014397 sacred puja rites involving fire also a kdDRsdYwUPk-00057-00014398-00014634 variant called Basma used as vibhuti is kdDRsdYwUPk-00058-00014635-00014844 prepared from the purified ashes of cow kdDRsdYwUPk-00059-00014845-00015120 dung ashes the product of fire is kdDRsdYwUPk-00060-00015121-00015375 considered intrinsically pure it is used kdDRsdYwUPk-00061-00015376-00015555 on the forehead normally as three kdDRsdYwUPk-00062-00015556-00015871 horizontal lines representing shiva some kdDRsdYwUPk-00063-00015872-00016044 hindus meld both the three horizontal kdDRsdYwUPk-00064-00016045-00016261 vibhuti lines of shiva and that you kdDRsdYwUPk-00065-00016262-00016492 shape the laka of vishnu in an amalgam kdDRsdYwUPk-00066-00016493-00016755 marker signifying Hari Hara Vishnu Shiva kdDRsdYwUPk-00067-00016756-00017031 in addition sacred ash signifies that kdDRsdYwUPk-00068-00017032-00017259 the body's origin is from dust and ash kdDRsdYwUPk-00069-00017260-00017469 into dust and ash it shall return the kdDRsdYwUPk-00070-00017470-00017700 ash is a marker of impermanence kdDRsdYwUPk-00071-00017701-00017908 everything in the interim is but an kdDRsdYwUPk-00072-00017909-00018231 illusion Maya the booty when applied to kdDRsdYwUPk-00073-00018232-00018421 the forehead also symbolizes the kdDRsdYwUPk-00074-00018422-00018603 willingness to destroy negative thoughts kdDRsdYwUPk-00075-00018604-00018900 and qualities jealousy envy anger greed kdDRsdYwUPk-00076-00018901-00019167 etc as these negative qualities if not kdDRsdYwUPk-00077-00019168-00019365 destroyed will bring all kinds of pains kdDRsdYwUPk-00078-00019366-00019698 in life kdDRsdYwUPk-00079-00019699-00020343 topic Rudraksha Rudraksha are seeds of kdDRsdYwUPk-00080-00020344-00020550 the Rudraksha tree that in hinduism kdDRsdYwUPk-00081-00020551-00020772 represent the tears of lord shiva also kdDRsdYwUPk-00082-00020773-00020874 known as Rudra kdDRsdYwUPk-00083-00020875-00021102 they are often threaded into a necklace kdDRsdYwUPk-00084-00021103-00021318 and used as a rosary to accompany prayer kdDRsdYwUPk-00085-00021319-00021694 and meditation kdDRsdYwUPk-00086-00021695-00022261 topic universal symbols kdDRsdYwUPk-00087-00022262-00022468 among the most revered symbols in kdDRsdYwUPk-00088-00022469-00022693 Hinduism three are a quintessential part kdDRsdYwUPk-00089-00022694-00022819 of its culture and are most kdDRsdYwUPk-00090-00022820-00023330 representative of its general ethos kdDRsdYwUPk-00091-00023331-00023903 topic home pronounced AUM kdDRsdYwUPk-00092-00023904-00024188 home or a um home as the sacred sound kdDRsdYwUPk-00093-00024189-00024392 symbol that represents universe the kdDRsdYwUPk-00094-00024393-00024700 ultimate reality Brahman it is prefixed kdDRsdYwUPk-00095-00024701-00024886 and sometimes suffix to all Vedic kdDRsdYwUPk-00096-00024887-00025208 mantras and prayers AUM is often said to kdDRsdYwUPk-00097-00025209-00025427 represent God in the three aspects of kdDRsdYwUPk-00098-00025428-00025811 Brahman of Vishnu you and Shiva M as the kdDRsdYwUPk-00099-00025812-00025987 divine primordial vibration it kdDRsdYwUPk-00100-00025988-00026149 represents the one ultimate reality kdDRsdYwUPk-00101-00026150-00026371 underlying and encompassing all of kdDRsdYwUPk-00102-00026372-00026636 nature and all of existence the written kdDRsdYwUPk-00103-00026637-00026849 syllable om called ankara serves as a kdDRsdYwUPk-00104-00026850-00027029 deeply significant and distinctly kdDRsdYwUPk-00105-00027030-00027320 recognizable symbol for Hindu Dharma the kdDRsdYwUPk-00106-00027320-00027545 pronunciation of AUM moves through all kdDRsdYwUPk-00107-00027545-00027785 possible human linguistic vowel sounds kdDRsdYwUPk-00108-00027786-00027952 and is different from the pronunciation kdDRsdYwUPk-00109-00027953-00028193 of own both are often symbolically kdDRsdYwUPk-00110-00028194-00028364 equated although they are sonically kdDRsdYwUPk-00111-00028364-00028818 distinct kdDRsdYwUPk-00112-00028819-00029171 swastika kdDRsdYwUPk-00113-00029172-00029458 swastika is a symbol keynoting general kdDRsdYwUPk-00114-00029458-00029712 auspiciousness it may represent purity kdDRsdYwUPk-00115-00029713-00029917 of soul truth and stability or kdDRsdYwUPk-00116-00029918-00030262 alternatively Surya the Sun its rotation kdDRsdYwUPk-00117-00030263-00030436 in four directions has been used to kdDRsdYwUPk-00118-00030437-00030624 represent many ideas but primarily kdDRsdYwUPk-00119-00030625-00030852 describes the four directions the four kdDRsdYwUPk-00120-00030853-00031132 Vedas in their harmonious whole its use kdDRsdYwUPk-00121-00031133-00031639 in Hinduism dates back to ancient times kdDRsdYwUPk-00122-00031640-00032293 topic Shri chakra Yantra Shri chakra kdDRsdYwUPk-00123-00032294-00032521 Yantra of tripura sundari commonly kdDRsdYwUPk-00124-00032522-00032725 referred to as Sri Yantra is a mandala kdDRsdYwUPk-00125-00032726-00032946 formed by nine interlocking triangles kdDRsdYwUPk-00126-00032947-00033205 four of these triangles are oriented kdDRsdYwUPk-00127-00033206-00033394 upright representing Shiva or the kdDRsdYwUPk-00128-00033395-00033655 masculine five of these triangles are kdDRsdYwUPk-00129-00033656-00033874 inverted triangles representing Shakti kdDRsdYwUPk-00130-00033875-00034057 or the feminine together the nine kdDRsdYwUPk-00131-00034058-00034264 triangles form a web symbolic of the kdDRsdYwUPk-00132-00034265-00034486 entire cosmos a wound symbolic of kdDRsdYwUPk-00133-00034487-00034685 creation and together express Advaita kdDRsdYwUPk-00134-00034686-00035008 Vedanta or non-duality all other yantras kdDRsdYwUPk-00135-00035009-00035550 are derivatives of this supreme Yantra kdDRsdYwUPk-00136-00035551-00035817 topic symbols associated with individual kdDRsdYwUPk-00137-00035818-00036196 deities kdDRsdYwUPk-00138-00036197-00036452 several symbols animals flora kdDRsdYwUPk-00139-00036453-00036711 instruments weapons or even color in kdDRsdYwUPk-00140-00036712-00036921 Hindu iconography are associated with kdDRsdYwUPk-00141-00036922-00037164 particular Devas and vice-versa in kdDRsdYwUPk-00142-00037165-00037442 certain cases the deities themselves are kdDRsdYwUPk-00143-00037443-00037668 personifications of natural forces kdDRsdYwUPk-00144-00037669-00037968 for instance Agni fire Vayu wind Surya kdDRsdYwUPk-00145-00037969-00038268 Sun and Prithvi earth in other instances kdDRsdYwUPk-00146-00038269-00038511 the associations arise from specific kdDRsdYwUPk-00147-00038512-00038721 incidents or characteristics related in kdDRsdYwUPk-00148-00038722-00039027 Hindu theology the iconography served to kdDRsdYwUPk-00149-00039028-00039221 identify the particular deity in their kdDRsdYwUPk-00150-00039222-00039443 pictorial or sculptural representations kdDRsdYwUPk-00151-00039444-00039720 the symbolism also often links the kdDRsdYwUPk-00152-00039721-00039921 deities with a particular natural or kdDRsdYwUPk-00153-00039922-00040208 human attribute or profession it is kdDRsdYwUPk-00154-00040209-00040421 important to understand the symbolism in kdDRsdYwUPk-00155-00040422-00040599 order to appreciate the allegorical kdDRsdYwUPk-00156-00040600-00040833 references in not only Hindu scriptures kdDRsdYwUPk-00157-00040834-00041073 for instance / anak tales but also in kdDRsdYwUPk-00158-00041074-00041283 both ancient and modern secular works of kdDRsdYwUPk-00159-00041284-00041477 authors from the Indian subcontinent the kdDRsdYwUPk-00160-00041478-00041742 art and science of designing temples kdDRsdYwUPk-00161-00041743-00041933 includes the study of sculpture and the kdDRsdYwUPk-00162-00041934-00042089 ornamentation of religious significance kdDRsdYwUPk-00163-00042090-00042368 as described in sacred texts Shilpa kdDRsdYwUPk-00164-00042369-00042668 Shastra agamous in ancient India twelve kdDRsdYwUPk-00165-00042669-00042810 years of theoretical and practical kdDRsdYwUPk-00166-00042811-00043043 training used to be given to the student kdDRsdYwUPk-00167-00043044-00043483 by an able experienced teacher kdDRsdYwUPk-00168-00043484-00043980 topic Shiva Lingam kdDRsdYwUPk-00169-00043981-00044220 the Shiva Lingam represents the divine kdDRsdYwUPk-00170-00044221-00044430 being Shiva and is used as a symbol of kdDRsdYwUPk-00171-00044431-00044618 the power of fertility and strength kdDRsdYwUPk-00172-00044619-00044880 Shiva Linga Shiva Linga is the most kdDRsdYwUPk-00173-00044881-00045075 important and a popular symbolic kdDRsdYwUPk-00174-00045076-00045300 representation of Lord Shiva Shiva in kdDRsdYwUPk-00175-00045301-00045606 Hinduism it represents God himself in kdDRsdYwUPk-00176-00045607-00045789 his all the three aspects creator kdDRsdYwUPk-00177-00045790-00045978 sustainer or protector and destroyer kdDRsdYwUPk-00178-00045979-00046334 dissolute er kdDRsdYwUPk-00179-00046335-00046773 topic meaning kdDRsdYwUPk-00180-00046774-00047049 the word Shiva Linga is a combination of kdDRsdYwUPk-00181-00047050-00047289 the words Shiva auspiciousness and Linga kdDRsdYwUPk-00182-00047290-00047390 sign or symbol kdDRsdYwUPk-00183-00047391-00047676 thus Shiva Linga is a representation of kdDRsdYwUPk-00184-00047677-00047958 God in his all auspicious aspect again kdDRsdYwUPk-00185-00047959-00048189 Shiva also means one in whom all kdDRsdYwUPk-00186-00048190-00048429 creation sleeps after dissolution Linga kdDRsdYwUPk-00187-00048430-00048636 also means the place of dissolution of kdDRsdYwUPk-00188-00048637-00048924 the disintegrated universe the Shiva kdDRsdYwUPk-00189-00048925-00049152 Linga represents the supreme creator the kdDRsdYwUPk-00190-00049153-00049371 cause behind the creation protection and kdDRsdYwUPk-00191-00049372-00049562 destruction of everything visible and kdDRsdYwUPk-00192-00049563-00049962 invisible in the god Shiva kdDRsdYwUPk-00193-00049963-00050405 topic types kdDRsdYwUPk-00194-00050406-00050645 based on the mobility of the object of kdDRsdYwUPk-00195-00050646-00050855 worship Shiva lingas are broadly divided kdDRsdYwUPk-00196-00050856-00051367 into two categories kala and a kala kdDRsdYwUPk-00197-00051369-00051854 topic call is Shiva lingas kdDRsdYwUPk-00198-00051855-00052124 these are made of stone crystal metals kdDRsdYwUPk-00199-00052125-00052515 clay rice dough etc these can be moved kdDRsdYwUPk-00200-00052516-00052879 from one place to another kdDRsdYwUPk-00201-00052879-00053371 topic Akhilesh Shiva lingas kdDRsdYwUPk-00202-00053372-00053641 the sacred texts described many types of kdDRsdYwUPk-00203-00053641-00053850 shiva linga based on variations in the kdDRsdYwUPk-00204-00053851-00054087 proportions the following is the kdDRsdYwUPk-00205-00054088-00054276 description of sarvatah Bhadra shiva kdDRsdYwUPk-00206-00054277-00054472 lingam preferably constructed in black kdDRsdYwUPk-00207-00054473-00054654 spotless hard stone which can be kdDRsdYwUPk-00208-00054655-00054830 worshipped by every living being kdDRsdYwUPk-00209-00054831-00055072 these Shiva lingas are installed in kdDRsdYwUPk-00210-00055073-00055242 temples and are fixed to ground or a kdDRsdYwUPk-00211-00055243-00055524 base they are usually made of stones or kdDRsdYwUPk-00212-00055525-00055854 metals the sacred texts suggest that the kdDRsdYwUPk-00213-00055855-00056061 Shiva Linga must have three parts a kdDRsdYwUPk-00214-00056062-00056347 bottom most one-third Road part that is kdDRsdYwUPk-00215-00056348-00056544 in the earth brahma bhagam represents kdDRsdYwUPk-00216-00056545-00056730 brahma the creator of the world it is kdDRsdYwUPk-00217-00056731-00057034 rectangular in cross-section a middle kdDRsdYwUPk-00218-00057035-00057231 one-third Road part is called vishnu kdDRsdYwUPk-00219-00057232-00057460 bhagam or vishnu Baga it represents kdDRsdYwUPk-00220-00057461-00057669 vishnu the protector and sustainer of kdDRsdYwUPk-00221-00057670-00057823 the world it is octagonal in kdDRsdYwUPk-00222-00057824-00058101 cross-section both the brahma bhagam and kdDRsdYwUPk-00223-00058102-00058315 vishnu bhagam are embedded in Pithom the kdDRsdYwUPk-00224-00058316-00058629 ornamental pedestal a visible one-third kdDRsdYwUPk-00225-00058630-00058915 road shiva puja bhagam or pooja Baga kdDRsdYwUPk-00226-00058916-00059157 also known as Rudra bhagam or Rudra Baga kdDRsdYwUPk-00227-00059158-00059307 which is topmost part which is kdDRsdYwUPk-00228-00059308-00059538 worshipped it is circular in cross kdDRsdYwUPk-00229-00059539-00059781 section and cylindrical in shape it kdDRsdYwUPk-00230-00059782-00060012 represents Rudra Shiva the dissolute ER kdDRsdYwUPk-00231-00060013-00060282 or destroyer of the world it is known as kdDRsdYwUPk-00232-00060283-00060454 pooja bhagam because this part is kdDRsdYwUPk-00233-00060454-00060732 worshipped Brahma sutras these are kdDRsdYwUPk-00234-00060733-00060918 certain essential lines present on the kdDRsdYwUPk-00235-00060919-00061198 Rudra bhagam Rudra Baga without them a kdDRsdYwUPk-00236-00061199-00061391 Shiva Linga is unfit to be worshipped kdDRsdYwUPk-00237-00061392-00061641 the Shiva Linga is at the level of kdDRsdYwUPk-00238-00061642-00061830 ground and easily accessible to the kdDRsdYwUPk-00239-00061831-00062007 worshipers irrespective of their caste kdDRsdYwUPk-00240-00062008-00062469 social or economic status kdDRsdYwUPk-00241-00062470-00062947 topic the Lotus kdDRsdYwUPk-00242-00062948-00063172 the Lotus is associated with the kdDRsdYwUPk-00243-00063173-00063375 creation theology as well as the gods kdDRsdYwUPk-00244-00063376-00063717 Vishnu Brahma and Lakshmi it is the kdDRsdYwUPk-00245-00063719-00063910 symbol of beauty and fertility in the kdDRsdYwUPk-00246-00063911-00064204 bhagavad-gita a human as a juror to be kdDRsdYwUPk-00247-00064204-00064384 like the Lotus they should work without kdDRsdYwUPk-00248-00064385-00064629 attachment dedicating their actions to kdDRsdYwUPk-00249-00064630-00064866 God untouched by sin like water on a kdDRsdYwUPk-00250-00064867-00065067 lotus leaf like a beautiful flower kdDRsdYwUPk-00251-00065069-00065644 standing high above the mud and water kdDRsdYwUPk-00252-00065645-00066118 topic Divina kdDRsdYwUPk-00253-00066119-00066325 the musical instrument veena is kdDRsdYwUPk-00254-00066326-00066484 associated with the Hindu goddess kdDRsdYwUPk-00255-00066485-00066769 Saraswati and the sage Narada it kdDRsdYwUPk-00256-00066770-00067192 represents arts and learning kdDRsdYwUPk-00257-00067193-00067656 topic clonk kdDRsdYwUPk-00258-00067657-00067920 the conch shell is a major hindu article kdDRsdYwUPk-00259-00067921-00068079 of prayer used as a trumpeting kdDRsdYwUPk-00260-00068080-00068337 announcement of all sorts the god of kdDRsdYwUPk-00261-00068338-00068562 preservation vishnu is said to hold a kdDRsdYwUPk-00262-00068563-00068748 special conch pancha Hanyu that kdDRsdYwUPk-00263-00068749-00068919 represents life as it has come out of kdDRsdYwUPk-00264-00068920-00069183 life-giving waters in the story of kdDRsdYwUPk-00265-00069184-00069372 Dhruva the divine conch plays a special kdDRsdYwUPk-00266-00069373-00069663 part the Warriors of ancient India would kdDRsdYwUPk-00267-00069664-00069849 blow conch shells to announce battle kdDRsdYwUPk-00268-00069850-00070068 such as is famously represented in the kdDRsdYwUPk-00269-00070069-00070266 beginning of the war of kuruksetra in kdDRsdYwUPk-00270-00070267-00070566 the Mahabharata a famous Hindu epic the kdDRsdYwUPk-00271-00070567-00070788 conch shell is also a deep part of Hindu kdDRsdYwUPk-00272-00070789-00071055 symbolic and religious tradition today kdDRsdYwUPk-00273-00071056-00071283 most hindus used the conch as a part of kdDRsdYwUPk-00274-00071284-00071460 their religious practices blowing it kdDRsdYwUPk-00275-00071461-00071628 during worship at specific points kdDRsdYwUPk-00276-00071629-00071949 accompanied by ceremonial bells shankha kdDRsdYwUPk-00277-00071950-00072165 also symbolizes the sound that created kdDRsdYwUPk-00278-00072166-00072609 the universe and stands for knowledge kdDRsdYwUPk-00279-00072610-00073087 Topic chakra kdDRsdYwUPk-00280-00073088-00073342 the chakra or disk-like weapon of vishnu kdDRsdYwUPk-00281-00073343-00073510 is often found mounted on the top of kdDRsdYwUPk-00282-00073511-00073738 Vaishnava temples or incorporated into kdDRsdYwUPk-00283-00073739-00074038 architectural designs images depicting kdDRsdYwUPk-00284-00074039-00074291 Vishnu's forearmed narayana form almost kdDRsdYwUPk-00285-00074292-00074491 always include the chakra in one of his kdDRsdYwUPk-00286-00074492-00074740 hands it is a general symbol for kdDRsdYwUPk-00287-00074741-00074968 protection chakra is also known to kdDRsdYwUPk-00288-00074969-00075163 symbolize the need to follow Dharma and kdDRsdYwUPk-00289-00075164-00075584 to condemn a Dharma kdDRsdYwUPk-00290-00075585-00076088 topic multiple heads and arms kdDRsdYwUPk-00291-00076089-00076359 an array of Hindu Buddhist and some Jain kdDRsdYwUPk-00292-00076360-00076566 deities are often depicted with multiple kdDRsdYwUPk-00293-00076567-00076829 heads arms and other body parts creating kdDRsdYwUPk-00294-00076830-00076987 what one author refers to as a kdDRsdYwUPk-00295-00076988-00077304 multiplicity convention in religious kdDRsdYwUPk-00296-00077305-00077541 iconography such multiple body parts kdDRsdYwUPk-00297-00077542-00077780 represent the divine omnipresent and kdDRsdYwUPk-00298-00077781-00077951 imminence ability to be in many places kdDRsdYwUPk-00299-00077952-00078228 at once and simultaneously exist in all kdDRsdYwUPk-00300-00078229-00078443 places at once and thereby the ability kdDRsdYwUPk-00301-00078444-00078707 to influence many things at once the kdDRsdYwUPk-00302-00078708-00078891 specific meanings attributed to the kdDRsdYwUPk-00303-00078892-00079076 multiple body parts of an image are kdDRsdYwUPk-00304-00079077-00079398 symbolic not literal in context in such kdDRsdYwUPk-00305-00079399-00079616 depictions the visual effect of an array kdDRsdYwUPk-00306-00079617-00079826 of multiple arms is to create a kinetic kdDRsdYwUPk-00307-00079827-00080290 energy showing that ability kdDRsdYwUPk-00308-00080291-00080704 topic vahana kdDRsdYwUPk-00309-00080705-00080962 the Honda or vehicle sometimes called a kdDRsdYwUPk-00310-00080963-00081163 mount is an animal or mythical entity kdDRsdYwUPk-00311-00081164-00081334 closely associated with a particular kdDRsdYwUPk-00312-00081335-00081676 deity in Hindu theology sometimes the kdDRsdYwUPk-00313-00081677-00081877 deity as iconographically depicted kdDRsdYwUPk-00314-00081878-00082051 riding and/or mounted on the vahana kdDRsdYwUPk-00315-00082052-00082276 other times the vahana is depicted at kdDRsdYwUPk-00316-00082277-00082438 the deities site or symbolically kdDRsdYwUPk-00317-00082439-00082904 represented as a divine attribute kdDRsdYwUPk-00318-00082905-00083386 topic Vishnu kdDRsdYwUPk-00319-00083387-00083686 Vishnu is the protector god of the three kdDRsdYwUPk-00320-00083687-00083926 gods of the Hindu triad Vishnu being the kdDRsdYwUPk-00321-00083927-00084235 preserver appears most human the rig kdDRsdYwUPk-00322-00084236-00084457 Vedic Vishnu is conceived as the Sun in kdDRsdYwUPk-00323-00084458-00084535 three stages kdDRsdYwUPk-00324-00084536-00084814 rising zenith and setting the Vedic kdDRsdYwUPk-00325-00084815-00084988 Vishnu strides through the heavens in kdDRsdYwUPk-00326-00084989-00085072 three steps kdDRsdYwUPk-00327-00085073-00085257 this is Vishnu x' great deed and kdDRsdYwUPk-00328-00085258-00085486 constitutes his great glory with these kdDRsdYwUPk-00329-00085487-00085765 three steps Vishnu a solar deity courses kdDRsdYwUPk-00330-00085766-00085888 through the three divisions of the kdDRsdYwUPk-00331-00085889-00086161 universe the God being manifest in a kdDRsdYwUPk-00332-00086162-00086440 threefold form as ogni on earth indra or kdDRsdYwUPk-00333-00086441-00086671 Vayu in the atmosphere and Surya in the kdDRsdYwUPk-00334-00086672-00087001 sky he is said to have taken these three kdDRsdYwUPk-00335-00087002-00087193 steps for the preservation and benefit kdDRsdYwUPk-00336-00087194-00087469 of mortals the zenith is appropriately kdDRsdYwUPk-00337-00087470-00087706 called Vishnu's place his third step kdDRsdYwUPk-00338-00087707-00087934 cannot be seen with human eyes it is kdDRsdYwUPk-00339-00087935-00088361 here that Indra dwells kdDRsdYwUPk-00340-00088362-00088914 topic table of symbols kdDRsdYwUPk-00341-00088915-00089391 topic gopura kdDRsdYwUPk-00342-00089392-00089591 it is the tower that was built on the kdDRsdYwUPk-00343-00089592-00089853 wall of entrance it was many storied kdDRsdYwUPk-00344-00089854-00090188 building up to one story to 16 story it kdDRsdYwUPk-00345-00090189-00090398 contains many portico like cadaver I kdDRsdYwUPk-00346-00090399-00090641 press through carnage coup de Sala Ben kdDRsdYwUPk-00347-00090642-00090684 Chara kdDRsdYwUPk-00348-00090685-00090953 Kudo it can be seen mainly in South kdDRsdYwUPk-00349-00090954-00091109 Indian temples with Dravidian kdDRsdYwUPk-00350-00091110-00091483 architecture kdDRsdYwUPk-00351-00091484-00092015 topic see also kdDRsdYwUPk-00352-00092016-00092430 Ashe to Mengele kdDRsdYwUPk-00353-00092431-00092947 topic references kdDRsdYwUPk-00354-00092948-00093290 notes source pasta Shilpa kosha kdDRsdYwUPk-00355-00093291-00093490 encyclopedia of Hindu temple kdDRsdYwUPk-00356-00093491-00093756 architecture and vast Usk Ramachandra kdDRsdYwUPk-00357-00093757-00094062 Rao Delhi divine books Lala Murari Lal kdDRsdYwUPk-00358-00094063-00094455 chharia oriental series ISBN nine seven kdDRsdYwUPk-00359-00094456-00094686 eight nine three eight one two one eight kdDRsdYwUPk-00360-00094687-00094896 five one eight set kdDRsdYwUPk-00361-00094897-00095151 Kasyapa Shilpa Shastra part two kdDRsdYwUPk-00362-00095152-00095349 department of endowments andhra pradesh kdDRsdYwUPk-00363-00095350-00095682 india Bharath IAM aha Shilpa mu in kdDRsdYwUPk-00364-00095683-00096050 sixteen parts Swarna Subramanya Kavi kdDRsdYwUPk-00365-00096051-00096397 1971 trinidad and tobago dollars govt T kdDRsdYwUPk-00366-00096398-00096975 of Andhra Pradesh supported publication kdDRsdYwUPk-00367-00096976-00097643 topic further reading Rao ta gopinatha kdDRsdYwUPk-00368-00097644-00097983 1998 elements of hindu iconography in kdDRsdYwUPk-00369-00097984-00098130 four parts New Delhi kdDRsdYwUPk-00370-00098131-00098445 motilal banarsidass ISBN date one two oh kdDRsdYwUPk-00371-00098446-00098790 eight oh eight seven eight nine Janson kdDRsdYwUPk-00372-00098791-00099195 eva rudy 1993 the book of Hindu imagery kdDRsdYwUPk-00373-00099196-00099443 God's manifestations and their meaning kdDRsdYwUPk-00374-00099444-00099729 binky Kok publications Havel to the kdDRsdYwUPk-00375-00099730-00100071 Netherlands ISBN nine oh seven four five kdDRsdYwUPk-00376-00100072-00100642 nine seven oh seven six kdDRsdYwUPk-00377-00100643-00101183 topic external links 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the third largest enrollment khsRm_VGdsU-00012-00005272-00005506 of any of the schools in the University khsRm_VGdsU-00013-00005507-00005824 of California system after UCLA and UC khsRm_VGdsU-00014-00005825-00006102 Berkeley they have a strong emphasis in khsRm_VGdsU-00015-00006103-00006336 science technology engineering and math khsRm_VGdsU-00016-00006337-00006660 or STEM fields before jumping into the khsRm_VGdsU-00017-00006661-00006885 specific changes we should start by khsRm_VGdsU-00018-00006886-00007138 understanding what problem UC Davis is khsRm_VGdsU-00019-00007139-00007909 trying to solve khsRm_VGdsU-00020-00007909-00008134 so my role here at the university is to khsRm_VGdsU-00021-00008134-00008374 make sure that we optimize student khsRm_VGdsU-00022-00008375-00008644 success specifically looking at all the khsRm_VGdsU-00023-00008645-00008796 academic opportunities that students khsRm_VGdsU-00024-00008797-00009145 have at this university I then want to khsRm_VGdsU-00025-00009146-00009396 make sure that their initial courses khsRm_VGdsU-00026-00009397-00009619 their introductions which are taught in khsRm_VGdsU-00027-00009620-00009820 these very large formats are as khsRm_VGdsU-00028-00009821-00010066 successful as possible both in terms of khsRm_VGdsU-00029-00010067-00010264 the capacity of getting students into khsRm_VGdsU-00030-00010265-00010449 the classes making sure that they're khsRm_VGdsU-00031-00010450-00010591 able to learn what they need to learn khsRm_VGdsU-00032-00010592-00010710 and they have the foundational knowledge khsRm_VGdsU-00033-00010711-00010966 to go forward so with these large format khsRm_VGdsU-00034-00010967-00011170 classes are we talking about freshman khsRm_VGdsU-00035-00011171-00011371 and sophomore or lower level classes khsRm_VGdsU-00036-00011372-00011584 we're primarily talking about freshman khsRm_VGdsU-00037-00011585-00011701 and sophomore we're talking about khsRm_VGdsU-00038-00011702-00011923 situations where students are three to khsRm_VGdsU-00039-00011924-00012142 six hundred students in a class or khsRm_VGdsU-00040-00012143-00012373 talking about introductory classes where khsRm_VGdsU-00041-00012374-00012667 a total of 2,500 students might be khsRm_VGdsU-00042-00012668-00012921 taking that course in a given quarter in khsRm_VGdsU-00043-00012922-00013113 five different four to five different khsRm_VGdsU-00044-00013115-00013347 classes traditionally with four or five khsRm_VGdsU-00045-00013348-00013572 different instructors so that's one of khsRm_VGdsU-00046-00013573-00013879 the unique challenges of UC Davis is khsRm_VGdsU-00047-00013880-00014050 that just in terms of that's the nature khsRm_VGdsU-00048-00014051-00014250 of our classes or have you actually khsRm_VGdsU-00049-00014251-00014524 detected you know we have a we need to khsRm_VGdsU-00050-00014525-00014671 make improvements in learning within khsRm_VGdsU-00051-00014672-00014974 this type of class so we know by looking khsRm_VGdsU-00052-00014975-00015232 at the data that the vast majority of khsRm_VGdsU-00053-00015233-00015444 our students are actually disappearing khsRm_VGdsU-00054-00015445-00015790 are leaving in the first two years and khsRm_VGdsU-00055-00015791-00015988 let me clarify by vast majority I mean khsRm_VGdsU-00056-00015988-00016231 that of the 18 to 20 percent of students khsRm_VGdsU-00057-00016232-00016585 that leave our University fully ninety khsRm_VGdsU-00058-00016586-00016719 percent of those students have left by khsRm_VGdsU-00059-00016720-00016944 the end of their second year based on khsRm_VGdsU-00060-00016945-00017224 that information we've decided that we khsRm_VGdsU-00061-00017225-00017371 need to pay particular attention to what khsRm_VGdsU-00062-00017372-00017581 courses they're involved with in those khsRm_VGdsU-00063-00017582-00017758 first two years and when you do a khsRm_VGdsU-00064-00017759-00017941 careful analysis of the classes that khsRm_VGdsU-00065-00017942-00018136 they actually have to take you realize khsRm_VGdsU-00066-00018137-00018292 that they are primarily taught in these khsRm_VGdsU-00067-00018293-00018541 very large formats so given that now khsRm_VGdsU-00068-00018542-00018769 let's sort of talk about the what so khsRm_VGdsU-00069-00018770-00018997 what are the programs that you've put in khsRm_VGdsU-00070-00018998-00019183 place or that you're experimenting worth khsRm_VGdsU-00071-00019184-00019405 right now so we specifically worked in khsRm_VGdsU-00072-00019406-00019711 biology and chemistry primarily because khsRm_VGdsU-00073-00019712-00019924 that's where the vast majority of our khsRm_VGdsU-00074-00019925-00020275 introductory students start and many of khsRm_VGdsU-00075-00020276-00020527 our students will be taking in the same khsRm_VGdsU-00076-00020528-00020727 year in their first year introductory khsRm_VGdsU-00077-00020728-00021058 chemistry what we call 2a khsRm_VGdsU-00078-00021059-00021261 and introductory biology also to a khsRm_VGdsU-00079-00021262-00021633 chemistry versus biology in those areas khsRm_VGdsU-00080-00021634-00021886 we have focused on looking at the whole khsRm_VGdsU-00081-00021887-00022189 system of instruction which ranges from khsRm_VGdsU-00082-00022190-00022525 what we offer students in the in their khsRm_VGdsU-00083-00022526-00022747 off class classroom times like their khsRm_VGdsU-00084-00022748-00022953 homework times and study times what we khsRm_VGdsU-00085-00022954-00023089 do with students during their discussion khsRm_VGdsU-00086-00023090-00023328 time with teaching assistants and what khsRm_VGdsU-00087-00023329-00023628 we do in the actual classroom looking at khsRm_VGdsU-00088-00023629-00023844 that span we've tried to figure out how khsRm_VGdsU-00089-00023845-00024064 to optimize the time spent in each of khsRm_VGdsU-00090-00024065-00024375 those three areas so this series were khsRm_VGdsU-00091-00024376-00024538 actually looking at personalized khsRm_VGdsU-00092-00024539-00024744 learning or which a lot of people use khsRm_VGdsU-00093-00024745-00024922 the term but there's not a lot of khsRm_VGdsU-00094-00024923-00025144 information about what does it mean but khsRm_VGdsU-00095-00025145-00025303 let me just start out do you even use khsRm_VGdsU-00096-00025304-00025546 that term here on this campus no we we khsRm_VGdsU-00097-00025547-00025681 never used the term personalized khsRm_VGdsU-00098-00025682-00025800 learning I think if I were to say that khsRm_VGdsU-00099-00025801-00025933 to people they think I would be khsRm_VGdsU-00100-00025933-00026169 something that they go away from here khsRm_VGdsU-00101-00026170-00026329 and they maybe do an online MOOC or khsRm_VGdsU-00102-00026330-00026535 something else we talked about khsRm_VGdsU-00103-00026536-00026790 maximizing the learning experience with khsRm_VGdsU-00104-00026791-00027052 the resources that we have available and khsRm_VGdsU-00105-00027052-00027402 we really think about that first and khsRm_VGdsU-00106-00027403-00027612 then apply technology where appropriate khsRm_VGdsU-00107-00027613-00027799 to get that maximal benefit for the khsRm_VGdsU-00108-00027800-00028231 students so it sounds to me like you khsRm_VGdsU-00109-00028232-00028561 have common learning design principles khsRm_VGdsU-00110-00028562-00028807 that are being implemented but they get khsRm_VGdsU-00111-00028808-00028971 implemented in different ways so you khsRm_VGdsU-00112-00028972-00029185 have common things of making students khsRm_VGdsU-00113-00029186-00029433 accountable having the classes much more khsRm_VGdsU-00114-00029434-00029644 interactive where students have to react khsRm_VGdsU-00115-00029645-00029812 and try to apply what they're learning khsRm_VGdsU-00116-00029813-00030004 the main general principle here is we're khsRm_VGdsU-00117-00030005-00030162 trying to get if you want to learn khsRm_VGdsU-00118-00030163-00030420 something complex which is what we try khsRm_VGdsU-00119-00030422-00030685 to do it in our one university that khsRm_VGdsU-00120-00030686-00030933 takes a lot of practice and feedback khsRm_VGdsU-00121-00030933-00031264 until recently much of that was supposed khsRm_VGdsU-00122-00031264-00031440 to be going on at home with homework or khsRm_VGdsU-00123-00031441-00031594 whatnot but it's difficult to get khsRm_VGdsU-00124-00031595-00031858 feedback at home when the smart people khsRm_VGdsU-00125-00031858-00031993 aren't there that would help you either khsRm_VGdsU-00126-00031994-00032239 your peers or your professor so that's khsRm_VGdsU-00127-00032239-00032404 the whole idea of the flipped classroom khsRm_VGdsU-00128-00032405-00032611 where come prepared some basic khsRm_VGdsU-00129-00032612-00032806 understanding and take that time where khsRm_VGdsU-00130-00032807-00032977 you're all together to do the khsRm_VGdsU-00131-00032978-00033181 high-quality practice and get the khsRm_VGdsU-00132-00033182-00033465 feedback while we're all together and so khsRm_VGdsU-00133-00033466-00033696 everything that we're doing is focused khsRm_VGdsU-00134-00033697-00033937 on that sort of principle getting that khsRm_VGdsU-00135-00033938-00034180 principle into the classroom several khsRm_VGdsU-00136-00034181-00034402 years ago the I am stem group started khsRm_VGdsU-00137-00034403-00034441 working khsRm_VGdsU-00138-00034442-00034555 with the biology and chemistry khsRm_VGdsU-00139-00034556-00034768 department to apply some of these khsRm_VGdsU-00140-00034769-00034951 learning concepts in an iterative khsRm_VGdsU-00141-00034952-00035413 fashion so my hopefully permanent khsRm_VGdsU-00142-00035414-00035557 assignment now at least the next five khsRm_VGdsU-00143-00035558-00035767 years will be what we call bist 2a which khsRm_VGdsU-00144-00035768-00035938 is the first introductory course of khsRm_VGdsU-00145-00035939-00036196 biology here at UC Davis it's part of a khsRm_VGdsU-00146-00036197-00036550 series and its primary goal is is to khsRm_VGdsU-00147-00036551-00036781 teach fundamentals of cellular and khsRm_VGdsU-00148-00036782-00037033 molecular biology going from origins up khsRm_VGdsU-00149-00037034-00037255 to the formation of a cell so we teach khsRm_VGdsU-00150-00037256-00037510 all the fundamentals in this class the khsRm_VGdsU-00151-00037511-00037681 stuff that's used for forefeet ronsley khsRm_VGdsU-00152-00037682-00037834 and about three or four years ago we khsRm_VGdsU-00153-00037835-00038044 actually I got involved in this class to khsRm_VGdsU-00154-00038045-00038290 sort of help redesign it come up with khsRm_VGdsU-00155-00038291-00038631 them stronger curriculum and primarily khsRm_VGdsU-00156-00038632-00038869 bring in sort of hands-on interactive khsRm_VGdsU-00157-00038870-00039190 learning techniques and we've done a khsRm_VGdsU-00158-00039191-00039439 bunch of experiments and changed the khsRm_VGdsU-00159-00039440-00039586 course in a variety of ways and it's khsRm_VGdsU-00160-00039587-00039892 still evolving over the last several khsRm_VGdsU-00161-00039893-00040126 years the biggest thing that we did was khsRm_VGdsU-00162-00040127-00040366 add a discussion section which is two khsRm_VGdsU-00163-00040367-00040534 hours long were they where we've done a khsRm_VGdsU-00164-00040535-00040726 lot of our piloting for this interactive khsRm_VGdsU-00165-00040727-00041065 online personalized learning because khsRm_VGdsU-00166-00041066-00041269 that is the new way of saying things I khsRm_VGdsU-00167-00041270-00041680 guess and this year last quarter in the khsRm_VGdsU-00168-00041681-00041857 fall was the first time we really tried khsRm_VGdsU-00169-00041858-00042154 to quote flip part of the classroom that khsRm_VGdsU-00170-00042155-00042370 is make the students take a little bit khsRm_VGdsU-00171-00042371-00042517 more responsibility for their own khsRm_VGdsU-00172-00042518-00042754 reading and learning and then the khsRm_VGdsU-00173-00042755-00043219 classroom classic lecture is more asking khsRm_VGdsU-00174-00043220-00043417 questions trying to get them to put a khsRm_VGdsU-00175-00043418-00043665 and B together to come up with C and khsRm_VGdsU-00176-00043666-00043951 it's sort of that process that we'd like khsRm_VGdsU-00177-00043952-00044161 to emphasize and get them to actually khsRm_VGdsU-00178-00044162-00044305 learn and that's what we want to test khsRm_VGdsU-00179-00044306-00044602 them on not so much the facts and that's khsRm_VGdsU-00180-00044603-00045076 the biggest challenge alright so now khsRm_VGdsU-00181-00045077-00045208 that you've gone through this and how khsRm_VGdsU-00182-00045209-00045388 long has it been since you've actually khsRm_VGdsU-00183-00045389-00045625 had the new format including what the khsRm_VGdsU-00184-00045626-00045829 main classroom changes have been the khsRm_VGdsU-00185-00045830-00046060 main classroom changes since January khsRm_VGdsU-00186-00046061-00046138 okay khsRm_VGdsU-00187-00046139-00046417 oh okay so very recent yeah so the last khsRm_VGdsU-00188-00046418-00046714 time I taught it was was right before we khsRm_VGdsU-00189-00046715-00047116 started doing these kind of changes in khsRm_VGdsU-00190-00047117-00047285 terms of interaction khsRm_VGdsU-00191-00047286-00047573 so I like I said two years ago I taught khsRm_VGdsU-00192-00047574-00047966 straight lecture yep and same way I khsRm_VGdsU-00193-00047967-00048221 taught it you know 20 years for the past khsRm_VGdsU-00194-00048222-00048515 20 years so the discussion section has khsRm_VGdsU-00195-00048516-00048710 had change and that gave us the khsRm_VGdsU-00196-00048711-00048932 coherence you know I said like I said a khsRm_VGdsU-00197-00048933-00049346 cohesiveness across the the instructors khsRm_VGdsU-00198-00049347-00049502 but at the same time we weren't feeling khsRm_VGdsU-00199-00049503-00049775 like the students were getting the khsRm_VGdsU-00200-00049776-00049943 knowledge that we wanted one of the khsRm_VGdsU-00201-00049944-00050162 things that I like about the new format khsRm_VGdsU-00202-00050163-00050426 is I can probe the students on the spot khsRm_VGdsU-00203-00050427-00050699 you know in my lecture today for example khsRm_VGdsU-00204-00050700-00051101 I got a question and because my students khsRm_VGdsU-00205-00051102-00051287 by this point in the quarter are so used khsRm_VGdsU-00206-00051288-00051473 to being interactive that they can talk khsRm_VGdsU-00207-00051474-00051740 they can interrupt we try to make it a khsRm_VGdsU-00208-00051741-00051932 positive environment so that if they khsRm_VGdsU-00209-00051933-00052127 answer a question incorrectly we try to khsRm_VGdsU-00210-00052128-00052451 support that and I can find out that khsRm_VGdsU-00211-00052452-00052855 there is something that I was assuming khsRm_VGdsU-00212-00052857-00053069 that they would know in my lecture and khsRm_VGdsU-00213-00053070-00053291 it was like oh I think we're gonna have khsRm_VGdsU-00214-00053291-00053467 to stop for a minute because there's khsRm_VGdsU-00215-00053469-00053716 this major understand misunderstanding khsRm_VGdsU-00216-00053717-00053980 whereas in the old lecture format it was khsRm_VGdsU-00217-00053982-00054257 very hard to draw that out and so I khsRm_VGdsU-00218-00054258-00054524 think being able to get them used to khsRm_VGdsU-00219-00054525-00054779 talking a lot they're more willing to khsRm_VGdsU-00220-00054779-00054880 tell us what they know and what they khsRm_VGdsU-00221-00054882-00055237 don't khsRm_VGdsU-00222-00055238-00055573 a UC Davis we're seeing faculty work khsRm_VGdsU-00223-00055574-00055842 side-by-side with staff to redesign the khsRm_VGdsU-00224-00055844-00056071 large lecture classes with the goals of khsRm_VGdsU-00225-00056072-00056287 increasing conceptual understanding and khsRm_VGdsU-00226-00056288-00056590 improving retention all of these changes khsRm_VGdsU-00227-00056591-00056776 are meant to address a major bottleneck khsRm_VGdsU-00228-00056777-00057088 in the stem pipeline a cliche is the khsRm_VGdsU-00229-00057089-00057283 distance education begins in the fifth khsRm_VGdsU-00230-00057284-00057577 row but UC Davis is making significant khsRm_VGdsU-00231-00057578-00057853 efforts to change this situation in the khsRm_VGdsU-00232-00057854-00058087 next episode we'll take a deeper look at khsRm_VGdsU-00233-00058088-00058314 intro to chemistry and intro to biology khsRm_VGdsU-00234-00058315-00058591 to see how faculty members and even khsRm_VGdsU-00235-00058591-00058762 teaching assistants are taking a more khsRm_VGdsU-00236-00058763-00059055 personalized approach ki4y3C3s3Po-00000-00000217-00000545 we really just needed intro song so that ki4y3C3s3Po-00001-00000546-00000778 like we can we can play it off and then ki4y3C3s3Po-00002-00000779-00000983 like oh okay now I can get emotionally ki4y3C3s3Po-00003-00000984-00001307 prepared for it yeah that's true I I did ki4y3C3s3Po-00004-00001308-00001516 look at some some music that we could ki4y3C3s3Po-00005-00001517-00001805 could use that's like free music that's ki4y3C3s3Po-00006-00001805-00001997 right Chris commented on some of those ki4y3C3s3Po-00007-00001998-00002165 we really liked we should just adopt ki4y3C3s3Po-00008-00002166-00002549 them yeah yeah I I thought about it but ki4y3C3s3Po-00009-00002550-00002758 then I'd have to like hit another button ki4y3C3s3Po-00010-00002759-00003052 on my other monitor no you get one of ki4y3C3s3Po-00011-00003053-00003238 the the big sound board things so that ki4y3C3s3Po-00012-00003239-00003533 uh you have that you have the you have ki4y3C3s3Po-00013-00003534-00003743 the air horn you have all the the funny ki4y3C3s3Po-00014-00003744-00003947 little sounds the wacky noises yeah yeah ki4y3C3s3Po-00015-00003947-00004277 sure the the cartoon like skedaddling ki4y3C3s3Po-00016-00004278-00004601 noise that they have yeah ki4y3C3s3Po-00017-00004602-00004722 yeah ki4y3C3s3Po-00018-00004723-00004972 I'm convinced that our budget will ki4y3C3s3Po-00019-00004973-00005195 totally allow for that oh yeah yeah ki4y3C3s3Po-00020-00005196-00005572 there are free ki4y3C3s3Po-00021-00005573-00005885 oh well yeah undoubtedly undoubtedly ki4y3C3s3Po-00022-00005886-00006011 yeah ki4y3C3s3Po-00023-00006012-00006304 hello good morning good evening good ki4y3C3s3Po-00024-00006305-00006563 afternoon to everyone out there uh this ki4y3C3s3Po-00025-00006564-00006760 is Club Moffett talks this is our ki4y3C3s3Po-00026-00006761-00007114 November Edition I am Ryan ki4y3C3s3Po-00027-00007115-00007360 I'm Chris I'm Joe ki4y3C3s3Po-00028-00007361-00007648 and today we have a special guest with ki4y3C3s3Po-00029-00007650-00007996 us hello I am Kim Gordon ki4y3C3s3Po-00030-00007997-00008213 I can ki4y3C3s3Po-00031-00008214-00008387 uh Kim can you tell us a little bit ki4y3C3s3Po-00032-00008388-00008674 about yourself sure sure I am ki4y3C3s3Po-00033-00008675-00009059 I am the uh proprietor owner ki4y3C3s3Po-00034-00009060-00009274 over which is a little tiny small ki4y3C3s3Po-00035-00009275-00009509 business in town ki4y3C3s3Po-00036-00009510-00009953 um we do little uh tent sleepover setups ki4y3C3s3Po-00037-00009954-00010128 with air mattresses ki4y3C3s3Po-00038-00010129-00010535 and uh tray tables stuff like that but ki4y3C3s3Po-00039-00010536-00010781 I'm also I think I'm here more because ki4y3C3s3Po-00040-00010782-00011063 I'm a local theater Guru I've been doing ki4y3C3s3Po-00041-00011064-00011303 theater pretty much my whole life and ki4y3C3s3Po-00042-00011304-00011621 I guess that's why I'm here ki4y3C3s3Po-00043-00011622-00011783 yeah well what's what's your favorite ki4y3C3s3Po-00044-00011784-00012137 performance that you've ever put on ki4y3C3s3Po-00045-00012138-00012292 um well you have one you gotta choose ki4y3C3s3Po-00046-00012293-00012574 one out of all the ones no no I'm just ki4y3C3s3Po-00047-00012575-00012935 really hard I I've done quite a bit as ki4y3C3s3Po-00048-00012936-00013235 far as acting and directing so it's it's ki4y3C3s3Po-00049-00013236-00013529 a lot most recently I guess this past ki4y3C3s3Po-00050-00013530-00013727 summer I did ki4y3C3s3Po-00051-00013728-00013979 um uh a really cool show called ki4y3C3s3Po-00052-00013980-00014194 tonight's at a bar room it was a ki4y3C3s3Po-00053-00014195-00014591 melodrama and so the audience got to boo ki4y3C3s3Po-00054-00014591-00014921 and hiss and throw popcorn at the stage ki4y3C3s3Po-00055-00014922-00015136 it was a lot it was a lot of fun a lot ki4y3C3s3Po-00056-00015137-00015233 of fun ki4y3C3s3Po-00057-00015234-00015493 so here's something that I'm because ki4y3C3s3Po-00058-00015494-00015707 what you've already talked about before ki4y3C3s3Po-00059-00015708-00015833 I'm just kind of putting these things ki4y3C3s3Po-00060-00015834-00016043 together have you seen these like escape ki4y3C3s3Po-00061-00016044-00016558 room uh like live show things that that ki4y3C3s3Po-00062-00016559-00016715 they're putting together in like bigger ki4y3C3s3Po-00063-00016716-00017393 cities ki4y3C3s3Po-00064-00017394-00017680 right here so no and it's it's like it ki4y3C3s3Po-00065-00017681-00017885 seems like it's a whole production it ki4y3C3s3Po-00066-00017886-00018041 has to be really expensive to put ki4y3C3s3Po-00067-00018042-00018155 something like this together because ki4y3C3s3Po-00068-00018156-00018305 like you have to do the costumes you ki4y3C3s3Po-00069-00018306-00018472 have to set up the script to do all this ki4y3C3s3Po-00070-00018473-00018658 stuff and like you have to have a big ki4y3C3s3Po-00071-00018659-00018905 area to do it but I've heard of this one ki4y3C3s3Po-00072-00018906-00019061 like in New York or something that's ki4y3C3s3Po-00073-00019062-00019414 like a modern take on Macbeth I think ki4y3C3s3Po-00074-00019415-00019607 and like you're solving puzzles and ki4y3C3s3Po-00075-00019608-00019900 doing escape room stuff and watching the ki4y3C3s3Po-00076-00019901-00020255 play and like nobody's watching the same ki4y3C3s3Po-00077-00020256-00020429 side of it like everyone's off doing ki4y3C3s3Po-00078-00020430-00020735 different parts of of the the Escape ki4y3C3s3Po-00079-00020736-00020944 area or whatever and they're seeing ki4y3C3s3Po-00080-00020945-00021083 different parts of the story so they all ki4y3C3s3Po-00081-00021084-00021250 have to kind of like piece it together ki4y3C3s3Po-00082-00021251-00021467 whenever they're done the whole ki4y3C3s3Po-00083-00021468-00021767 interactive theater experience yeah and ki4y3C3s3Po-00084-00021768-00021886 that that kind of thing is really cool ki4y3C3s3Po-00085-00021887-00022078 but yeah it's saying that it kind of ki4y3C3s3Po-00086-00022079-00022411 made me think of of that so ki4y3C3s3Po-00087-00022412-00022643 interesting how things are turning out ki4y3C3s3Po-00088-00022644-00023147 these days ki4y3C3s3Po-00089-00023148-00023536 well I guess we're going to ki4y3C3s3Po-00090-00023537-00023686 we're going to set for us ki4y3C3s3Po-00091-00023687-00024085 which means we need to first talk about ki4y3C3s3Po-00092-00024086-00024430 uh this week ki4y3C3s3Po-00093-00024431-00024700 yeah and what's happening on campus now ki4y3C3s3Po-00094-00024701-00024941 and what we're doing ki4y3C3s3Po-00095-00024942-00025127 okay what do you want to start with well ki4y3C3s3Po-00096-00025128-00025414 we can we can take a just a a quick ki4y3C3s3Po-00097-00025415-00025606 jaunt into what's going on around the ki4y3C3s3Po-00098-00025607-00025925 area right now uh of course uh we're ki4y3C3s3Po-00099-00025926-00026189 recording this on Election Day by the ki4y3C3s3Po-00100-00026189-00026345 time this posts the election results ki4y3C3s3Po-00101-00026345-00026845 will have happened and the monkeys ki4y3C3s3Po-00102-00026845-00027227 no matter what the result is uh but as ki4y3C3s3Po-00103-00027227-00027605 far as uh locally uh we do have more ki4y3C3s3Po-00104-00027606-00027785 things coming up a little bit later in ki4y3C3s3Po-00105-00027786-00028043 the month and going into December uh but ki4y3C3s3Po-00106-00028044-00028258 right now just for ongoing stuff just ki4y3C3s3Po-00107-00028260-00028433 just really the things we typically ki4y3C3s3Po-00108-00028433-00028757 mention which are the uh story time at ki4y3C3s3Po-00109-00028758-00028979 the Wichita Falls Public Library which ki4y3C3s3Po-00110-00028980-00029195 happens on Thursday mornings and ki4y3C3s3Po-00111-00029195-00029381 Thursday evenings also kind of you know ki4y3C3s3Po-00112-00029382-00029627 uh downtown uh Wichita Falls Brewing ki4y3C3s3Po-00113-00029627-00029812 Company does their live trivia and ki4y3C3s3Po-00114-00029813-00030005 that's just kind of an ongoing ongoing ki4y3C3s3Po-00115-00030006-00030220 events but we'll talk more about some ki4y3C3s3Po-00116-00030222-00030455 specific uh concerts and opportunities ki4y3C3s3Po-00117-00030456-00030808 happening mostly on campus uh at the end ki4y3C3s3Po-00118-00030810-00031099 of the broadcast ki4y3C3s3Po-00119-00031100-00031433 okay I guess uh what are people reading ki4y3C3s3Po-00120-00031433-00031993 watching playing doing ki4y3C3s3Po-00121-00031994-00032320 yeah no go ahead but what what are you ki4y3C3s3Po-00122-00032322-00032512 doing to entertain yourself when you're ki4y3C3s3Po-00123-00032513-00032602 not ki4y3C3s3Po-00124-00032603-00032777 theatering ki4y3C3s3Po-00125-00032778-00033371 well okay ki4y3C3s3Po-00126-00033372-00033557 okay all the time I mean I used to ki4y3C3s3Po-00127-00033558-00034061 always have a book handy but lately ki4y3C3s3Po-00128-00034062-00034415 I've gotten into the home edits ki4y3C3s3Po-00129-00034416-00034565 okay ki4y3C3s3Po-00130-00034566-00034662 um ki4y3C3s3Po-00131-00034663-00034867 [Music] ki4y3C3s3Po-00132-00034868-00035171 which basically it's a big fancy book ki4y3C3s3Po-00133-00035172-00035452 that that helps me keep on track for ki4y3C3s3Po-00134-00035453-00035657 organizing my house that's what I've ki4y3C3s3Po-00135-00035658-00035890 been obsessed with lately been trying to ki4y3C3s3Po-00136-00035891-00036107 organize my house organize my life if ki4y3C3s3Po-00137-00036108-00036431 I'm being honest ki4y3C3s3Po-00138-00036432-00036605 um we could all probably use some of ki4y3C3s3Po-00139-00036606-00036899 that every now and then oh yeah uh yeah ki4y3C3s3Po-00140-00036900-00037271 that's that's the extent of my reading ki4y3C3s3Po-00141-00037272-00037433 lately ki4y3C3s3Po-00142-00037434-00037607 um anybody else have any good books ki4y3C3s3Po-00143-00037608-00037840 maybe some recommendations because I do ki4y3C3s3Po-00144-00037841-00038296 need to start reading some real books ki4y3C3s3Po-00145-00038297-00038501 sadly the Librarians are all going ki4y3C3s3Po-00146-00038502-00038657 when's the last time I actually read a ki4y3C3s3Po-00147-00038658-00038999 book yeah that's that's the thing and ki4y3C3s3Po-00148-00039000-00039185 here I am I have a bachelor's in English ki4y3C3s3Po-00149-00039186-00039346 and I'm like I haven't read this I ki4y3C3s3Po-00150-00039347-00039593 haven't let's see I I finished reading ki4y3C3s3Po-00151-00039594-00039790 the first dune book before the movie ki4y3C3s3Po-00152-00039791-00039946 came out ki4y3C3s3Po-00153-00039947-00040139 um though I read dude Messiah right ki4y3C3s3Po-00154-00040140-00040295 afterward but no I haven't ki4y3C3s3Po-00155-00040296-00040559 I haven't really read a whole lot I ki4y3C3s3Po-00156-00040560-00040768 mostly just stick to reading manga and ki4y3C3s3Po-00157-00040769-00041033 just playing video games uh that's ki4y3C3s3Po-00158-00041034-00041230 pretty much like when I have free time ki4y3C3s3Po-00159-00041231-00041483 that's what I do uh actually I've been ki4y3C3s3Po-00160-00041484-00041561 um ki4y3C3s3Po-00161-00041562-00041740 I know she's not getting anything out of ki4y3C3s3Po-00162-00041741-00041927 it but I've been reading uh Harry Potter ki4y3C3s3Po-00163-00041928-00042239 to my uh to my daughter before bed so ki4y3C3s3Po-00164-00042240-00042449 when she's eating her last uh ki4y3C3s3Po-00165-00042450-00042712 there you go uh when she's eating her ki4y3C3s3Po-00166-00042713-00042995 her last bottle right before bed I pop ki4y3C3s3Po-00167-00042996-00043289 up in Harry Potter uh we're almost done ki4y3C3s3Po-00168-00043290-00043462 with Philosopher's Stone we're like 50 ki4y3C3s3Po-00169-00043463-00043733 pages from the end we're at the the ki4y3C3s3Po-00170-00043734-00043937 um the Unicorn bit ki4y3C3s3Po-00171-00043938-00044035 um ki4y3C3s3Po-00172-00044036-00044399 so there's that and then I read her like ki4y3C3s3Po-00173-00044400-00044602 I let her choose between one of two ki4y3C3s3Po-00174-00044603-00044837 books it's like good night Moon and some ki4y3C3s3Po-00175-00044838-00045083 book about a rabbit going to bed ki4y3C3s3Po-00176-00045084-00045202 um and she's gotten to a point where ki4y3C3s3Po-00177-00045203-00045377 she'll pick one like the one she wants ki4y3C3s3Po-00178-00045378-00045545 to read or like I'll ki4y3C3s3Po-00179-00045546-00045712 um as I'm reading it I'll lift up the ki4y3C3s3Po-00180-00045713-00045929 page so she can like uh ki4y3C3s3Po-00181-00045930-00046102 she doesn't have fine motor controls she ki4y3C3s3Po-00182-00046103-00046427 can like she can pinch or whatever so ki4y3C3s3Po-00183-00046428-00046565 whenever she sees me lift up the page ki4y3C3s3Po-00184-00046566-00046805 she'll like flip it like that ki4y3C3s3Po-00185-00046806-00046979 um and I'll have to hold it down for her ki4y3C3s3Po-00186-00046980-00047093 but um ki4y3C3s3Po-00187-00047094-00047507 just not quite getting like real book ki4y3C3s3Po-00188-00047508-00047740 page turning whenever I'm reading Harry ki4y3C3s3Po-00189-00047741-00047927 Potter she'll like scratch the she'll ki4y3C3s3Po-00190-00047928-00048077 scratch the paper she thinks it's just ki4y3C3s3Po-00191-00048078-00048418 the funniest thing in the world but uh ki4y3C3s3Po-00192-00048419-00048701 yeah that's all that's really all I'm ki4y3C3s3Po-00193-00048702-00048851 doing I'm playing some video games good ki4y3C3s3Po-00194-00048852-00048983 night Moon you think is the best ki4y3C3s3Po-00195-00048984-00049211 best-selling read that people should ki4y3C3s3Po-00196-00049212-00049487 read gotcha I act no I like it my moon ki4y3C3s3Po-00197-00049488-00049685 it's it's uh it's very calming it's very ki4y3C3s3Po-00198-00049686-00049871 real by the way they do have a ki4y3C3s3Po-00199-00049872-00050039 children's book called good night Dune ki4y3C3s3Po-00200-00050040-00050218 if you wanted to combine both of your ki4y3C3s3Po-00201-00050219-00050580 stories together good night Paul ki4y3C3s3Po-00202-00050581-00050836 tonight uh ki4y3C3s3Po-00203-00050837-00051136 good night Baron yeah ki4y3C3s3Po-00204-00051137-00051323 all right except if they're doing that ki4y3C3s3Po-00205-00051324-00051454 though it has to be the David Lynch do ki4y3C3s3Po-00206-00051455-00051623 and like it has to be good night Baron ki4y3C3s3Po-00207-00051624-00051802 leaping over the ki4y3C3s3Po-00208-00051803-00052030 the moon and it's him doing his like ki4y3C3s3Po-00209-00052032-00052211 floaty thing where he's just floating ki4y3C3s3Po-00210-00052212-00052625 around there ki4y3C3s3Po-00211-00052626-00052966 uh I I did the last thing I can finish ki4y3C3s3Po-00212-00052967-00053303 reading was that zombie apocalypse book ki4y3C3s3Po-00213-00053304-00053375 um ki4y3C3s3Po-00214-00053376-00053692 uh until the end of the world I have the ki4y3C3s3Po-00215-00053694-00053944 next Witcher book sitting on my ki4y3C3s3Po-00216-00053945-00054275 nightstand but I haven't started it yet ki4y3C3s3Po-00217-00054276-00054659 Netflix ki4y3C3s3Po-00218-00054660-00055013 all right I'm so disappointed I'm just ki4y3C3s3Po-00219-00055014-00055241 so angry ki4y3C3s3Po-00220-00055241-00055642 I it'll be okay or is the series not ki4y3C3s3Po-00221-00055644-00055841 jiving with the books ki4y3C3s3Po-00222-00055841-00056135 um it's not and it made Henry Cavill ki4y3C3s3Po-00223-00056136-00056938 quit ki4y3C3s3Po-00224-00056939-00057100 I don't even know that's that's the ki4y3C3s3Po-00225-00057101-00057226 rumor mill at least is that they ki4y3C3s3Po-00226-00057227-00057430 deviated so much that Henry was just ki4y3C3s3Po-00227-00057432-00057700 like nah that's I've done maybe you just ki4y3C3s3Po-00228-00057701-00057887 bounced because even last year he was ki4y3C3s3Po-00229-00057888-00058126 like as long as we're ki4y3C3s3Po-00230-00058127-00058307 as long as we're adapting the books I'm ki4y3C3s3Po-00231-00058308-00058480 fine doing the whole doing the whole ki4y3C3s3Po-00232-00058482-00058613 thing but ki4y3C3s3Po-00233-00058614-00058829 I guess not ki4y3C3s3Po-00234-00058829-00059063 I think he's just gotten really busy ki4y3C3s3Po-00235-00059064-00059254 with other projects ki4y3C3s3Po-00236-00059255-00059394 because ki4y3C3s3Po-00237-00059395-00059609 apparently he's going to be doing more ki4y3C3s3Po-00238-00059610-00059947 Superman appearance yeah yeah yeah ki4y3C3s3Po-00239-00059948-00060275 and I I think he's still supposed to be ki4y3C3s3Po-00240-00060276-00060599 doing a Highlander reboot really yeah ki4y3C3s3Po-00241-00060600-00061021 interesting ki4y3C3s3Po-00242-00061022-00061253 I guess so there can only be one ki4y3C3s3Po-00243-00061254-00061469 franchise that he's doing ki4y3C3s3Po-00244-00061470-00061637 well I mean that's the thing is that ki4y3C3s3Po-00245-00061638-00062029 he's he's already involved in two ki4y3C3s3Po-00246-00062029-00062429 successful ones uh or three if he ki4y3C3s3Po-00247-00062429-00062632 counted Nola homes ki4y3C3s3Po-00248-00062633-00062944 um which I would honestly maybe his best ki4y3C3s3Po-00249-00062945-00063371 acting but uh uh the ki4y3C3s3Po-00250-00063372-00063713 yeah he's a busy guy people are wanting ki4y3C3s3Po-00251-00063714-00063916 him to do stuff how many Witcher books ki4y3C3s3Po-00252-00063917-00064109 are you in at this point ki4y3C3s3Po-00253-00064110-00064415 I read ki4y3C3s3Po-00254-00064416-00064637 well and there it's weird because like ki4y3C3s3Po-00255-00064638-00064876 the chronology on them is is funky ki4y3C3s3Po-00256-00064877-00065080 because I've read the two short story ki4y3C3s3Po-00257-00065082-00065273 collections that I think were written ki4y3C3s3Po-00258-00065274-00065555 later but then got released as prequels ki4y3C3s3Po-00259-00065556-00065909 uh no the first the first one ki4y3C3s3Po-00260-00065910-00066232 um the first one in the timeline is uh ki4y3C3s3Po-00261-00066233-00066443 is the first one written so this the ki4y3C3s3Po-00262-00066444-00066694 story about him going to to see the the ki4y3C3s3Po-00263-00066695-00066850 golden dragon or whatever that's the ki4y3C3s3Po-00264-00066851-00067043 first short story okay and I have and I ki4y3C3s3Po-00265-00067044-00067253 have read that one but I'm on the I'm on ki4y3C3s3Po-00266-00067254-00067709 the fourth book now oh wow so ki4y3C3s3Po-00267-00067710-00067985 yeah I played the video games ki4y3C3s3Po-00268-00067986-00068249 yeah I'm not gonna do that yeah I I ki4y3C3s3Po-00269-00068250-00068513 can't really play video games very much ki4y3C3s3Po-00270-00068514-00068999 because I have a uh a really bad like ki4y3C3s3Po-00271-00069000-00069305 vertigo thing that sets in with playing ki4y3C3s3Po-00272-00069306-00069497 the video games in any of the ones that ki4y3C3s3Po-00273-00069498-00069755 move quickly which of course most of ki4y3C3s3Po-00274-00069756-00069905 them do ki4y3C3s3Po-00275-00069906-00070321 um so unless it's almost as slow as pong ki4y3C3s3Po-00276-00070322-00070631 I can't do it some people would argue ki4y3C3s3Po-00277-00070632-00070906 The Witcher 3 is that slow but uh yeah ki4y3C3s3Po-00278-00070907-00071182 that's that's my big like introduction ki4y3C3s3Po-00279-00071183-00071363 to the series like I heard about the ki4y3C3s3Po-00280-00071364-00071543 Witcher when it was uh when The Witcher ki4y3C3s3Po-00281-00071544-00071825 2 was about to come out in like 2010 I ki4y3C3s3Po-00282-00071826-00071969 was like I have no idea what any of ki4y3C3s3Po-00283-00071970-00072113 these books are I don't know what this ki4y3C3s3Po-00284-00072114-00072341 franchise is and I just fell in love ki4y3C3s3Po-00285-00072342-00072575 with it like it's just it's just such an ki4y3C3s3Po-00286-00072576-00072749 interesting world and such a such a ki4y3C3s3Po-00287-00072750-00073176 great character such a great cast ki4y3C3s3Po-00288-00073177-00073517 I've been um teaching Kiki's Delivery ki4y3C3s3Po-00289-00073518-00073691 Service for my class for the last three ki4y3C3s3Po-00290-00073692-00073943 weeks so I've been uh revisiting a lot ki4y3C3s3Po-00291-00073944-00074105 of the Studio Ghibli ki4y3C3s3Po-00292-00074106-00074326 um films of that period uh the early ki4y3C3s3Po-00293-00074327-00074693 years of uh miyazaki's uh stuff ki4y3C3s3Po-00294-00074694-00074891 and The Studio Ghibli so uh only ki4y3C3s3Po-00295-00074892-00075113 yesterday which again is a brilliant ki4y3C3s3Po-00296-00075114-00075221 film ki4y3C3s3Po-00297-00075222-00075413 um and again My Neighbor Totoro and ki4y3C3s3Po-00298-00075414-00075676 things of that nature ki4y3C3s3Po-00299-00075677-00075803 okay ki4y3C3s3Po-00300-00075804-00076132 so what are we watching ki4y3C3s3Po-00301-00076133-00076326 foreign ki4y3C3s3Po-00302-00076327-00076769 I've been I I have a tendency to find ki4y3C3s3Po-00303-00076770-00077026 shows after they're done ki4y3C3s3Po-00304-00077027-00077285 uh because I just recently started ki4y3C3s3Po-00305-00077286-00077656 watching the series Teen Wolf ki4y3C3s3Po-00306-00077657-00077969 um uh which I've been enjoying more than ki4y3C3s3Po-00307-00077970-00078317 I thought I was going to uh ki4y3C3s3Po-00308-00078318-00078455 it's ki4y3C3s3Po-00309-00078456-00078635 I it's it's one of those things it's ki4y3C3s3Po-00310-00078636-00078949 like I put in my head as as like ki4y3C3s3Po-00311-00078950-00079276 sort of the TV version of like uh ki4y3C3s3Po-00312-00079277-00079505 Harlequin romances you know just sort of ki4y3C3s3Po-00313-00079506-00080044 like trash fiction uh and uh great ki4y3C3s3Po-00314-00080045-00080338 Indulgence yeah and and so I just I ki4y3C3s3Po-00315-00080339-00080597 never did and so that I had nothing to ki4y3C3s3Po-00316-00080598-00080831 do I was bored and I was like I'm gonna ki4y3C3s3Po-00317-00080832-00081059 watch the first episode of this and I ki4y3C3s3Po-00318-00081060-00081238 was like I didn't hate that that was ki4y3C3s3Po-00319-00081239-00081412 that wasn't bad so I watched the next ki4y3C3s3Po-00320-00081413-00081671 one and I think I'm toward the end of ki4y3C3s3Po-00321-00081672-00081917 the first season now ki4y3C3s3Po-00322-00081918-00082181 yeah ki4y3C3s3Po-00323-00082182-00082475 uh Getty tarakovsky finished up the ki4y3C3s3Po-00324-00082476-00082775 second season of Primal which I think is ki4y3C3s3Po-00325-00082776-00082961 one of the best animated shows that's ki4y3C3s3Po-00326-00082962-00083206 ever been done personally is Warner ki4y3C3s3Po-00327-00083207-00083387 gonna continue that because I know they ki4y3C3s3Po-00328-00083388-00083644 fired like half of their staff or who ki4y3C3s3Po-00329-00083645-00083879 knows what Warner's gonna do um it's not ki4y3C3s3Po-00330-00083880-00084262 water anymore it's Discovery remember ki4y3C3s3Po-00331-00084263-00084562 right of course is that the is that the ki4y3C3s3Po-00332-00084563-00084755 way where there's no talking at all ki4y3C3s3Po-00333-00084756-00084971 first season there's no dialogue it's ki4y3C3s3Po-00334-00084972-00085175 all just it's just it's just the ki4y3C3s3Po-00335-00085176-00085462 characters moving around doing things ki4y3C3s3Po-00336-00085463-00085775 I think I saw like a couple episodes of ki4y3C3s3Po-00337-00085776-00085943 that with my son and I was pretty ki4y3C3s3Po-00338-00085944-00086188 impressed honestly it was it was very ki4y3C3s3Po-00339-00086189-00086411 interesting he he did a little bit of ki4y3C3s3Po-00340-00086412-00086621 that with Samurai Jack and so he wanted ki4y3C3s3Po-00341-00086622-00086867 to do the entire first season is that ki4y3C3s3Po-00342-00086868-00087059 the second season there is talking ki4y3C3s3Po-00343-00087060-00087244 because they go to a different continent ki4y3C3s3Po-00344-00087245-00087382 there's actually people instead of just ki4y3C3s3Po-00345-00087383-00087611 dinosaurs but the first season there's ki4y3C3s3Po-00346-00087612-00087923 no talking the entire season ki4y3C3s3Po-00347-00087924-00088103 everything's pantomime or you're ki4y3C3s3Po-00348-00088104-00088367 supposed to infer things just by the the ki4y3C3s3Po-00349-00088368-00088511 pure artwork and it's brilliant it ki4y3C3s3Po-00350-00088512-00088703 really is brilliant I think it won both ki4y3C3s3Po-00351-00088704-00088967 the Peabody and the Emmys so yeah ki4y3C3s3Po-00352-00088968-00089338 I I loved his uh Clone Wars okay I ki4y3C3s3Po-00353-00089339-00089549 thought that was uh really fantastic ki4y3C3s3Po-00354-00089550-00089765 little like ki4y3C3s3Po-00355-00089766-00090076 vignette into Star Wars and stuff it was ki4y3C3s3Po-00356-00090077-00090443 much more of a of a of a um ki4y3C3s3Po-00357-00090444-00090821 Southern China Hong Kong wushu type type ki4y3C3s3Po-00358-00090822-00091210 view of of of of the Star Wars universe ki4y3C3s3Po-00359-00091211-00091529 [Music] ki4y3C3s3Po-00360-00091530-00091685 um speaking of Star Wars anybody been ki4y3C3s3Po-00361-00091686-00091882 keeping up with Andor ki4y3C3s3Po-00362-00091883-00092326 yeah we've been watching that yes I I uh ki4y3C3s3Po-00363-00092327-00092675 I intending to watch that one I am ki4y3C3s3Po-00364-00092676-00092861 there's a lot of stuff that I've kind of ki4y3C3s3Po-00365-00092862-00093149 dropped recently uh but you like dandora ki4y3C3s3Po-00366-00093150-00093479 because it seems like that was ki4y3C3s3Po-00367-00093480-00093635 I do honestly ki4y3C3s3Po-00368-00093636-00093821 started very ki4y3C3s3Po-00369-00093822-00094079 and I'm a I'm a geek whenever it comes ki4y3C3s3Po-00370-00094080-00094300 to all sorts of things I can't help it I ki4y3C3s3Po-00371-00094301-00094606 just I am and um but it started really ki4y3C3s3Po-00372-00094607-00094973 slow but my husband was like all into it ki4y3C3s3Po-00373-00094974-00095176 so I'm like you know I'll kind of give ki4y3C3s3Po-00374-00095177-00095332 it a chance and now that it's kind of ki4y3C3s3Po-00375-00095333-00095512 progressing and we're getting close to ki4y3C3s3Po-00376-00095513-00095741 the season finale ki4y3C3s3Po-00377-00095742-00095944 um it's going a lot better it's getting ki4y3C3s3Po-00378-00095945-00096232 a lot more interesting for me but ki4y3C3s3Po-00379-00096233-00096412 according to my husband it's the most ki4y3C3s3Po-00380-00096413-00096826 Star Wars show since Rogue one so I'm ki4y3C3s3Po-00381-00096827-00097121 like okay all right it's it's not bad ki4y3C3s3Po-00382-00097122-00097229 but ki4y3C3s3Po-00383-00097230-00097505 I mean I I will admit that I do enjoy ki4y3C3s3Po-00384-00097506-00097691 like the Mandalorian and stuff a little ki4y3C3s3Po-00385-00097692-00097949 bit more yeah I I've heard it described ki4y3C3s3Po-00386-00097950-00098123 as um ki4y3C3s3Po-00387-00098124-00098561 the best evil boardroom uh conference ki4y3C3s3Po-00388-00098562-00098861 show of all time ki4y3C3s3Po-00389-00098862-00099137 um yeah it is pretty good in that way uh ki4y3C3s3Po-00390-00099138-00099479 the uh the politics of it is is really ki4y3C3s3Po-00391-00099480-00099629 good ki4y3C3s3Po-00392-00099630-00100141 um I'm surprised sometime by how ki4y3C3s3Po-00393-00100142-00100438 relevant politically and culturally it ki4y3C3s3Po-00394-00100439-00100685 seems to be uh ki4y3C3s3Po-00395-00100686-00100973 which is always nice in a work of ki4y3C3s3Po-00396-00100974-00101261 fiction to have that place where you can ki4y3C3s3Po-00397-00101262-00101662 actually relate to it you know yeah ki4y3C3s3Po-00398-00101663-00101818 well I've ki4y3C3s3Po-00399-00101819-00102065 um yeah I've I've kind of begrudgingly ki4y3C3s3Po-00400-00102066-00102209 kept up with all the Star Wars stuff ki4y3C3s3Po-00401-00102210-00102430 recently like I watched the book of Boba ki4y3C3s3Po-00402-00102431-00102718 Fett and I kind of hated it but I I've ki4y3C3s3Po-00403-00102719-00102827 watched it I watched it all the way ki4y3C3s3Po-00404-00102828-00103036 through and then like when it just ki4y3C3s3Po-00405-00103038-00103349 becomes the Mandalorian season 2.5 it's ki4y3C3s3Po-00406-00103350-00103594 like Yay characters I care about again ki4y3C3s3Po-00407-00103595-00103930 like I I don't care about Boba Fett I I ki4y3C3s3Po-00408-00103931-00104110 don't I've never understood the love for ki4y3C3s3Po-00409-00104111-00104536 that guy he's just a coal armor I love ki4y3C3s3Po-00410-00104538-00104794 the character Harkens back to the Star ki4y3C3s3Po-00411-00104795-00105065 Wars holiday special when we were ki4y3C3s3Po-00412-00105066-00105413 desperate for any type of of new info ki4y3C3s3Po-00413-00105414-00105736 about the upcoming Star Wars film and we ki4y3C3s3Po-00414-00105738-00105857 were told there's going to be a bounty ki4y3C3s3Po-00415-00105858-00106097 hunter called Boba Fett and there was ki4y3C3s3Po-00416-00106098-00106307 speculation for years and that's how ki4y3C3s3Po-00417-00106308-00106552 Boba Fett became really popular I mean ki4y3C3s3Po-00418-00106553-00106769 it's amazing that you can have a ki4y3C3s3Po-00419-00106770-00106949 character who has the most undignified ki4y3C3s3Po-00420-00106950-00107134 death in like ki4y3C3s3Po-00421-00107135-00107465 the history of of motion pictures ki4y3C3s3Po-00422-00107466-00107728 um and have his entire personality be ki4y3C3s3Po-00423-00107729-00107999 defined by one line of Darth Vader ki4y3C3s3Po-00424-00108000-00108233 saying no disintegrations and everyone ki4y3C3s3Po-00425-00108233-00108383 thinks he's just the coolest guy ever ki4y3C3s3Po-00426-00108383-00108515 and now he has his own show and he ki4y3C3s3Po-00427-00108516-00108839 spends half of it in a healing tank ki4y3C3s3Po-00428-00108840-00109163 um but it's how did you tell you that's ki4y3C3s3Po-00429-00109164-00109483 how you really feel about that ki4y3C3s3Po-00430-00109483-00109684 but uh I mean yeah I like the ki4y3C3s3Po-00431-00109685-00109915 Mandalorian season two got kind of ki4y3C3s3Po-00432-00109916-00110219 uh irritating with all the like all the ki4y3C3s3Po-00433-00110220-00110386 callbacks and all the like bringing in ki4y3C3s3Po-00434-00110388-00110554 all the other stuff from ki4y3C3s3Po-00435-00110555-00110884 like all the extended Universe stuff but ki4y3C3s3Po-00436-00110885-00111160 um yeah I want to watch Andor ki4y3C3s3Po-00437-00111161-00111449 um I dropped She-Hulk I think I think ki4y3C3s3Po-00438-00111450-00111616 I'm I think I'm good with Marvel I think ki4y3C3s3Po-00439-00111617-00111839 I'm okay now okay I got it all out of my ki4y3C3s3Po-00440-00111840-00112054 system earlier this year and I'm like ki4y3C3s3Po-00441-00112055-00112284 done Thanos was the end of the franchise ki4y3C3s3Po-00442-00112285-00113177 I don't need any more I'm good with it ki4y3C3s3Po-00443-00113178-00113339 it's like a board I don't know I just ki4y3C3s3Po-00444-00113340-00113573 like I don't know like that and like ki4y3C3s3Po-00445-00113574-00113831 Miss Marvel didn't do it for me the the ki4y3C3s3Po-00446-00113832-00114245 Captain America show was kind of dull ki4y3C3s3Po-00447-00114246-00114413 um just at a certain point I was just ki4y3C3s3Po-00448-00114414-00114652 like um I think I'm okay I think I'm ki4y3C3s3Po-00449-00114653-00114815 good I don't want to see any more of ki4y3C3s3Po-00450-00114816-00115007 this universe I'm kind of I'm kind of ki4y3C3s3Po-00451-00115008-00115384 over it but um I dropped the Lord of the ki4y3C3s3Po-00452-00115385-00115678 Rings show like uh halfway into the ki4y3C3s3Po-00453-00115679-00115840 second episode I still haven't gone back ki4y3C3s3Po-00454-00115841-00115960 to that ki4y3C3s3Po-00455-00115961-00116033 um ki4y3C3s3Po-00456-00116033-00116404 I did really really love uh the new Game ki4y3C3s3Po-00457-00116405-00116621 of Thrones spin-off thing I thought it ki4y3C3s3Po-00458-00116622-00117028 was uh you know what I'm gonna ki4y3C3s3Po-00459-00117029-00117377 I'm going to make my opinion known the ki4y3C3s3Po-00460-00117378-00117557 first season of House of the Dragon was ki4y3C3s3Po-00461-00117558-00117766 fantastic ki4y3C3s3Po-00462-00117767-00118108 um it's I'm so happy to to be excited ki4y3C3s3Po-00463-00118109-00118390 about that world again because like ki4y3C3s3Po-00464-00118391-00118684 essos is such a cool setting ki4y3C3s3Po-00465-00118685-00118978 and it was so let down by by just the ki4y3C3s3Po-00466-00118979-00119297 way Game of Thrones ended and just being ki4y3C3s3Po-00467-00119298-00119434 back in that world and like the first ki4y3C3s3Po-00468-00119435-00119578 season of this already gets into the ki4y3C3s3Po-00469-00119579-00119771 weird like ki4y3C3s3Po-00470-00119772-00120065 innsmith Cults like fish people stuff ki4y3C3s3Po-00471-00120066-00120395 and like all the other crazy weird Lord ki4y3C3s3Po-00472-00120396-00120593 of the Rings they're not not that the ki4y3C3s3Po-00473-00120594-00120839 The Game of Thrones setting that that ki4y3C3s3Po-00474-00120840-00121036 you really don't see in the main series ki4y3C3s3Po-00475-00121038-00121216 like it's just ki4y3C3s3Po-00476-00121217-00121589 and the the politics and the a king ki4y3C3s3Po-00477-00121590-00121871 that's actually competent and really ki4y3C3s3Po-00478-00121872-00122099 cool like just everything about it like ki4y3C3s3Po-00479-00122100-00122254 every I was I was hooked on that show ki4y3C3s3Po-00480-00122255-00122477 I'm so so happy that it's back ki4y3C3s3Po-00481-00122478-00122699 yeah I've I've been digging it too I ki4y3C3s3Po-00482-00122700-00122873 mean it's been pretty good uh with the ki4y3C3s3Po-00483-00122874-00123184 exception of the incestuousness but you ki4y3C3s3Po-00484-00123185-00123497 know that's Game of Thrones though it's ki4y3C3s3Po-00485-00123498-00123719 the targaryens we all we all know it was ki4y3C3s3Po-00486-00123720-00123965 gonna happen you don't keep that silver ki4y3C3s3Po-00487-00123966-00124384 hair for hundreds of years and and the ki4y3C3s3Po-00488-00124385-00124552 purple eyes and the books too like you ki4y3C3s3Po-00489-00124553-00124763 got to keep those purple eyes going did ki4y3C3s3Po-00490-00124764-00125008 you read the the book this is based on ki4y3C3s3Po-00491-00125009-00125389 Fire and Blood I did not me neither ki4y3C3s3Po-00492-00125390-00125795 it's a it's a history book I plan on ki4y3C3s3Po-00493-00125796-00125963 picking it up at some point but I kind ki4y3C3s3Po-00494-00125964-00126107 of just like skimmed the wiki I'm like ki4y3C3s3Po-00495-00126108-00126304 all right just tell me like if I'm ki4y3C3s3Po-00496-00126305-00126436 already gonna be reading the the history ki4y3C3s3Po-00497-00126438-00126658 of it you might as well get it to me in ki4y3C3s3Po-00498-00126659-00126881 Cliff's Notes ki4y3C3s3Po-00499-00126882-00127181 but um another show that my husband and ki4y3C3s3Po-00500-00127182-00127499 I just started watching and ki4y3C3s3Po-00501-00127500-00127763 um that I don't know if you guys have ki4y3C3s3Po-00502-00127764-00127973 seen it it's an fx show called little ki4y3C3s3Po-00503-00127974-00128339 demon it's very interesting it's uh ki4y3C3s3Po-00504-00128340-00128807 produced by Danny DeVito and I ki4y3C3s3Po-00505-00128808-00129095 animated right huh animated show ki4y3C3s3Po-00506-00129096-00129457 animated yes yeah right ki4y3C3s3Po-00507-00129458-00129827 he plays Satan Danny DeVito plays Satan ki4y3C3s3Po-00508-00129828-00130108 and his daughter plays the Antichrist ki4y3C3s3Po-00509-00130109-00130433 which is his time no ki4y3C3s3Po-00510-00130433-00130589 um I started watching it honestly ki4y3C3s3Po-00511-00130590-00130858 because I read some controversy about it ki4y3C3s3Po-00512-00130859-00131075 and then I just happened to flip it I ki4y3C3s3Po-00513-00131076-00131249 was like oh I'm kind of curious and I ki4y3C3s3Po-00514-00131250-00131489 mean there was people freaking out oh my ki4y3C3s3Po-00515-00131490-00131807 gosh they're promoting satanism ki4y3C3s3Po-00516-00131808-00132023 you know freak it out so it's like you ki4y3C3s3Po-00517-00132024-00132275 know what what the heck so we started ki4y3C3s3Po-00518-00132276-00132557 watching it and it's very ki4y3C3s3Po-00519-00132558-00132833 adults that may definitely more along ki4y3C3s3Po-00520-00132834-00133043 like the Adults Swim time so I don't ki4y3C3s3Po-00521-00133044-00133252 really know why people are freaking out ki4y3C3s3Po-00522-00133253-00133439 since it's definitely at all it's not ki4y3C3s3Po-00523-00133440-00133661 meant for kids at all ki4y3C3s3Po-00524-00133662-00133828 um it was ki4y3C3s3Po-00525-00133829-00134152 oddly disturbing ki4y3C3s3Po-00526-00134153-00134359 but awesome ki4y3C3s3Po-00527-00134360-00134569 okay ki4y3C3s3Po-00528-00134570-00135335 check that out then so gory and raunchy ki4y3C3s3Po-00529-00135336-00135593 um but it's hilarious coming from a ki4y3C3s3Po-00530-00135594-00135869 cartoon aspect ki4y3C3s3Po-00531-00135870-00136127 um but like the the devil in it he's got ki4y3C3s3Po-00532-00136128-00136313 a lot of layers like an ogre and an ki4y3C3s3Po-00533-00136314-00136637 onion okay ki4y3C3s3Po-00534-00136638-00136877 um but it's it's a fun watch I highly ki4y3C3s3Po-00535-00136878-00137051 recommend it ki4y3C3s3Po-00536-00137052-00137254 it's interesting about how that type of ki4y3C3s3Po-00537-00137255-00137477 genre seems to be expanding because I ki4y3C3s3Po-00538-00137478-00137716 would say that the Harley Quinn uh um uh ki4y3C3s3Po-00539-00137717-00137878 Cartoon probably also falls into that ki4y3C3s3Po-00540-00137879-00138227 category of raunchy and grotesque ki4y3C3s3Po-00541-00138228-00138497 I think uh you know what I'm I'm gonna I ki4y3C3s3Po-00542-00138498-00138725 was mentioning this with my wife a few ki4y3C3s3Po-00543-00138726-00138875 weeks ago but I think it's just ki4y3C3s3Po-00544-00138876-00139049 something about how like anime has ki4y3C3s3Po-00545-00139050-00139343 gotten so big over here and there's not ki4y3C3s3Po-00546-00139344-00139643 like a four children I mean there is but ki4y3C3s3Po-00547-00139644-00139823 like it's not like there's a chunk ki4y3C3s3Po-00548-00139824-00139966 that's four children and there's a chunk ki4y3C3s3Po-00549-00139967-00140243 that's for adults it's like kind of ki4y3C3s3Po-00550-00140244-00140464 mixed like everything that ki4y3C3s3Po-00551-00140465-00140639 that's like really big or that's really ki4y3C3s3Po-00552-00140640-00140873 popular kind of has like elements that ki4y3C3s3Po-00553-00140874-00140975 are ki4y3C3s3Po-00554-00140976-00141311 kind of light-hearted but also not so ki4y3C3s3Po-00555-00141312-00141628 much that they appear like childlike ki4y3C3s3Po-00556-00141629-00141827 and I think that that's having a big ki4y3C3s3Po-00557-00141828-00142001 effect on like entertainment now because ki4y3C3s3Po-00558-00142002-00142235 like especially with Like Comics and ki4y3C3s3Po-00559-00142236-00142528 stuff you'll hear right now ki4y3C3s3Po-00560-00142529-00142733 um I've noticed a meme like on Twitter ki4y3C3s3Po-00561-00142734-00142931 or something that ki4y3C3s3Po-00562-00142932-00143123 um comes around every few years where ki4y3C3s3Po-00563-00143124-00143297 it's like where where do I start on ki4y3C3s3Po-00564-00143298-00143602 reading Spider-Man and the the responses ki4y3C3s3Po-00565-00143603-00143752 like here is like you could start on ki4y3C3s3Po-00566-00143753-00144052 issue 600 something and then read like ki4y3C3s3Po-00567-00144053-00144281 Spectacular Spider-Man here and there ki4y3C3s3Po-00568-00144282-00144502 and then go back to amazing and whatever ki4y3C3s3Po-00569-00144503-00144725 and then for the other ones like where ki4y3C3s3Po-00570-00144726-00144977 do I start reading Demon Slayer from ki4y3C3s3Po-00571-00144978-00145216 volume one chapter one you pick up the ki4y3C3s3Po-00572-00145217-00145343 first one and then read it till it's ki4y3C3s3Po-00573-00145344-00145535 over and ki4y3C3s3Po-00574-00145536-00145787 I think that that attitude really is has ki4y3C3s3Po-00575-00145788-00145961 changed like animation and Western ki4y3C3s3Po-00576-00145962-00146116 Comics and like just the approach to ki4y3C3s3Po-00577-00146117-00146369 that stuff and it's nice to see that ki4y3C3s3Po-00578-00146370-00146728 that kind of thing is like like places ki4y3C3s3Po-00579-00146729-00146969 like FX are are really embracing that ki4y3C3s3Po-00580-00146970-00147251 and that's really cool to see by the way ki4y3C3s3Po-00581-00147252-00147533 watch chainsaw man everyone ki4y3C3s3Po-00582-00147534-00147737 that's my PSA for the week ki4y3C3s3Po-00583-00147738-00148001 well this has been geek talk ki4y3C3s3Po-00584-00148002-00148589 um corner with Kim and the librarians ki4y3C3s3Po-00585-00148590-00148852 uh We've alienated half of our Audience ki4y3C3s3Po-00586-00148853-00149152 by now but let's try to maybe pull pull ki4y3C3s3Po-00587-00149153-00149278 it back in ki4y3C3s3Po-00588-00149279-00149495 um ki4y3C3s3Po-00589-00149496-00149663 yeah we're supposed to be talking about ki4y3C3s3Po-00590-00149664-00149969 local theater so let's do that oh please ki4y3C3s3Po-00591-00149970-00150239 yes yeah absolutely Kim I know that ki4y3C3s3Po-00592-00150240-00150521 you've been involved with uh Community ki4y3C3s3Po-00593-00150522-00150916 Theater basically your whole life do you ki4y3C3s3Po-00594-00150917-00151295 remember what your entry point was like ki4y3C3s3Po-00595-00151296-00151937 when you first uh yes actually ki4y3C3s3Po-00596-00151938-00152104 um so ki4y3C3s3Po-00597-00152105-00152363 I was born in like Arlington Texas and ki4y3C3s3Po-00598-00152364-00152525 we moved up here whenever I was five ki4y3C3s3Po-00599-00152526-00152873 years old and uh so it's been a while I ki4y3C3s3Po-00600-00152874-00153028 moved off a couple times but it's ki4y3C3s3Po-00601-00153029-00153197 Wichita Falls is the black hole it stuck ki4y3C3s3Po-00602-00153198-00153504 to you back ki4y3C3s3Po-00603-00153505-00153821 every small town in Texas is that for ki4y3C3s3Po-00604-00153822-00154211 real uh ki4y3C3s3Po-00605-00154212-00154535 we got involved with Children's Theater ki4y3C3s3Po-00606-00154536-00154973 of Texas way way back in the day and ki4y3C3s3Po-00607-00154974-00155207 um my brothers were ki4y3C3s3Po-00608-00155208-00155339 uh ki4y3C3s3Po-00609-00155340-00155566 very much involved and at five years old ki4y3C3s3Po-00610-00155567-00156113 I was still a little bit young well then ki4y3C3s3Po-00611-00156114-00156364 um children see the theater of Texas put ki4y3C3s3Po-00612-00156365-00156628 on a show called Miracle on 34th Street ki4y3C3s3Po-00613-00156629-00156940 I was six years old at six years old I ki4y3C3s3Po-00614-00156941-00157085 was so old ki4y3C3s3Po-00615-00157086-00157354 um and they put it on at the Wichita ki4y3C3s3Po-00616-00157355-00157516 theater it was before the current ki4y3C3s3Po-00617-00157517-00157697 Proprietors ki4y3C3s3Po-00618-00157698-00158069 um and so yeah my very first show I was ki4y3C3s3Po-00619-00158070-00158207 six years old ki4y3C3s3Po-00620-00158208-00158440 Miracle on 34th Street at the Wichita ki4y3C3s3Po-00621-00158441-00158543 theater ki4y3C3s3Po-00622-00158544-00158693 um the Wichita theater at the time ki4y3C3s3Po-00623-00158694-00158921 looked a little bit different they ki4y3C3s3Po-00624-00158922-00159131 didn't have the Performing Arts Center ki4y3C3s3Po-00625-00159132-00159461 that was right next door to it and I was ki4y3C3s3Po-00626-00159462-00159749 uh a little traumatized by the by uh the ki4y3C3s3Po-00627-00159750-00160025 stairs on the outside there's between ki4y3C3s3Po-00628-00160026-00160264 the two buildings it's cover up covered ki4y3C3s3Po-00629-00160265-00160564 up now there's um a staircase that's ki4y3C3s3Po-00630-00160565-00160816 over 100 years old and whatever we ki4y3C3s3Po-00631-00160817-00160973 weren't on stage we had to go through ki4y3C3s3Po-00632-00160974-00161290 the alley between the theaters or ki4y3C3s3Po-00633-00161291-00161489 between the two buildings and I had to ki4y3C3s3Po-00634-00161490-00161711 climb this hundred-year-old alley to ki4y3C3s3Po-00635-00161712-00162035 hang out in the balcony between like ki4y3C3s3Po-00636-00162036-00162166 while the show was going on between ki4y3C3s3Po-00637-00162167-00162437 scenes and I was pretty traumatized by ki4y3C3s3Po-00638-00162438-00162643 that because I'm pretty sure ki4y3C3s3Po-00639-00162644-00163121 I'm I it was very rickety and it was ki4y3C3s3Po-00640-00163122-00163295 gonna drop at any moment but ki4y3C3s3Po-00641-00163296-00163439 surprisingly it's actually still there ki4y3C3s3Po-00642-00163440-00163613 between the theaters you just can't see ki4y3C3s3Po-00643-00163614-00163859 it because it's kind of covered up but ki4y3C3s3Po-00644-00163860-00164075 yeah uh shortly thereafter I started ki4y3C3s3Po-00645-00164076-00164476 doing shows at back door theater and I ki4y3C3s3Po-00646-00164477-00164740 never really left ki4y3C3s3Po-00647-00164741-00165143 um I've done oh gosh probably ki4y3C3s3Po-00648-00165144-00165497 60 70 shows in my life I mean quite a ki4y3C3s3Po-00649-00165498-00165652 bit ki4y3C3s3Po-00650-00165653-00165869 um I ki4y3C3s3Po-00651-00165870-00166225 I perform I direct I work backstage I do ki4y3C3s3Po-00652-00166226-00166697 a little bit of everything ki4y3C3s3Po-00653-00166698-00166949 does the pre-show jitteriness ever go ki4y3C3s3Po-00654-00166950-00167081 away ki4y3C3s3Po-00655-00167082-00167687 no and it shouldn't honestly because ki4y3C3s3Po-00656-00167688-00168157 um most actors they that nervousness ki4y3C3s3Po-00657-00168158-00168478 they turn into positive energy to use on ki4y3C3s3Po-00658-00168479-00168875 stage so I I was told a long time ago ki4y3C3s3Po-00659-00168876-00169066 that the moment that you stop being ki4y3C3s3Po-00660-00169067-00169283 nervous to get on stage is the moment ki4y3C3s3Po-00661-00169284-00169552 you probably shouldn't be on stage if ki4y3C3s3Po-00662-00169553-00169745 you're a little too complacent too ki4y3C3s3Po-00663-00169746-00169997 comfortable because then you're not you ki4y3C3s3Po-00664-00169998-00170326 don't perform as well I don't think ki4y3C3s3Po-00665-00170327-00170566 yeah that that energy I I have to ki4y3C3s3Po-00666-00170567-00170819 imagine is more that you you want to put ki4y3C3s3Po-00667-00170820-00171040 out a good performance than just just ki4y3C3s3Po-00668-00171041-00171161 the fact that you're nervous about ki4y3C3s3Po-00669-00171162-00171293 getting in front of people it's that you ki4y3C3s3Po-00670-00171294-00171539 get in front of people and you want them ki4y3C3s3Po-00671-00171540-00171713 to be entertained and you want them to ki4y3C3s3Po-00672-00171714-00172013 be in the in the same story the same ki4y3C3s3Po-00673-00172014-00172373 narrative as you are and I I just assume ki4y3C3s3Po-00674-00172374-00172654 some of that nerve is like what if I ki4y3C3s3Po-00675-00172655-00172816 don't give them the performance they ki4y3C3s3Po-00676-00172817-00172973 want ki4y3C3s3Po-00677-00172974-00173290 I mean you're there obviously to ki4y3C3s3Po-00678-00173291-00173411 entertain ki4y3C3s3Po-00679-00173412-00173614 and you don't want to disappoint the ki4y3C3s3Po-00680-00173615-00173887 audience because I mean ki4y3C3s3Po-00681-00173888-00174202 for the community theater level actors ki4y3C3s3Po-00682-00174203-00174502 get paid in Applause ki4y3C3s3Po-00683-00174503-00174647 um ki4y3C3s3Po-00684-00174648-00174976 that's that's what you want but ki4y3C3s3Po-00685-00174977-00175307 also you know low-key Adrenaline Junkies ki4y3C3s3Po-00686-00175308-00175631 because you get out there and it's all ki4y3C3s3Po-00687-00175632-00175847 sorts of adrenaline and it's a lot of ki4y3C3s3Po-00688-00175848-00176147 fun though ki4y3C3s3Po-00689-00176148-00176311 that sounds like a lot of fun actually ki4y3C3s3Po-00690-00176312-00176771 uh anything that's uh ki4y3C3s3Po-00691-00176772-00177040 well I mean I obviously everything that ki4y3C3s3Po-00692-00177041-00177233 you're doing is is jumping out at you is ki4y3C3s3Po-00693-00177234-00177419 something exciting but what's a what's a ki4y3C3s3Po-00694-00177420-00177538 really big performance that you've got ki4y3C3s3Po-00695-00177539-00177790 planned in the works if you if you don't ki4y3C3s3Po-00696-00177791-00178078 mind me asking no you're fine right now ki4y3C3s3Po-00697-00178079-00178259 I don't have anything in the works at ki4y3C3s3Po-00698-00178260-00178475 the moment surprisingly ki4y3C3s3Po-00699-00178476-00178766 um I well thanks everyone okay bye ki4y3C3s3Po-00700-00178767-00179093 [Laughter] ki4y3C3s3Po-00701-00179094-00179219 no ki4y3C3s3Po-00702-00179220-00179585 um I'm taking a break at the moment ki4y3C3s3Po-00703-00179586-00179795 um my family's had some health issues so ki4y3C3s3Po-00704-00179796-00180161 I'm kind of taking some time but I'm ki4y3C3s3Po-00705-00180162-00180359 I'm still involved and still definitely ki4y3C3s3Po-00706-00180360-00180557 kind of in the know ki4y3C3s3Po-00707-00180558-00180749 um there's a lot of great great shows ki4y3C3s3Po-00708-00180750-00180845 coming up ki4y3C3s3Po-00709-00180846-00181061 um uh I kind of wish that this podcast ki4y3C3s3Po-00710-00181062-00181252 would have been like a week ago because ki4y3C3s3Po-00711-00181253-00181493 I could have told everybody about all ki4y3C3s3Po-00712-00181494-00181690 these opportunities for auditions ki4y3C3s3Po-00713-00181691-00181990 because there's a lot that ki4y3C3s3Po-00714-00181991-00182099 um especially at the Wichita theater ki4y3C3s3Po-00715-00182100-00182338 they've just auditioned for I feel like ki4y3C3s3Po-00716-00182339-00182573 50 different shows okay that's an ki4y3C3s3Po-00717-00182574-00182890 extreme exaggeration but ki4y3C3s3Po-00718-00182891-00183257 um they have auditioned for all sorts of ki4y3C3s3Po-00719-00183258-00183426 stuff like footloose ki4y3C3s3Po-00720-00183427-00183947 and Barefoot in the Park uh ki4y3C3s3Po-00721-00183948-00184259 um just a bunch of different things ki4y3C3s3Po-00722-00184260-00184421 um but ki4y3C3s3Po-00723-00184422-00184690 I definitely think that people should ki4y3C3s3Po-00724-00184691-00184937 come out and like start to really think ki4y3C3s3Po-00725-00184938-00185302 about getting involved and on stage and ki4y3C3s3Po-00726-00185303-00185573 off stage come out to auditions right ki4y3C3s3Po-00727-00185574-00185897 now there's no future auditions posted ki4y3C3s3Po-00728-00185898-00186059 because we just ki4y3C3s3Po-00729-00186060-00186257 Wichita theater just had a whole bunch ki4y3C3s3Po-00730-00186258-00186419 of auditions ki4y3C3s3Po-00731-00186420-00186533 um ki4y3C3s3Po-00732-00186534-00186899 but coming up there's all sorts of stuff ki4y3C3s3Po-00733-00186900-00187228 both uh theaters have issued their full ki4y3C3s3Po-00734-00187229-00187487 season of shows and there's some ki4y3C3s3Po-00735-00187488-00187895 exciting things on the seasons coming up ki4y3C3s3Po-00736-00187896-00188075 um I haven't pulled up on my computer ki4y3C3s3Po-00737-00188076-00188266 here like Wichita theater they're ki4y3C3s3Po-00738-00188267-00188495 starting the year out ki4y3C3s3Po-00739-00188496-00188849 um with Little Mermaid and Footloose ki4y3C3s3Po-00740-00188850-00189023 which is pretty cool I think they've ki4y3C3s3Po-00741-00189024-00189161 already auditioned for both of those ki4y3C3s3Po-00742-00189162-00189478 shows but they have um in the works also ki4y3C3s3Po-00743-00189479-00189628 I think the next thing that they will ki4y3C3s3Po-00744-00189629-00189916 audition I'm guessing in like January ki4y3C3s3Po-00745-00189917-00190216 don't quote me on that uh but somewhere ki4y3C3s3Po-00746-00190217-00190373 around there I'm guessing they're gonna ki4y3C3s3Po-00747-00190374-00190643 do like SpongeBob the musical ki4y3C3s3Po-00748-00190644-00190787 um they're bringing back Wizard of Oz ki4y3C3s3Po-00749-00190788-00191081 again Little Women A Christmas Carol ki4y3C3s3Po-00750-00191082-00191519 um they have a huge uh season selected ki4y3C3s3Po-00751-00191520-00191825 for stage two as well Barefoot in the ki4y3C3s3Po-00752-00191826-00192011 Park into the woods which I'm super ki4y3C3s3Po-00753-00192012-00192149 excited about ki4y3C3s3Po-00754-00192150-00192275 um the last time we did it at Wichita ki4y3C3s3Po-00755-00192276-00192551 theater I played Jack's mom and it's fun ki4y3C3s3Po-00756-00192552-00192701 uh ki4y3C3s3Po-00757-00192702-00193001 uh greater tuna ki4y3C3s3Po-00758-00193002-00193283 um which is a two-man show that's a it's ki4y3C3s3Po-00759-00193284-00193499 a great job splitting show it's ki4y3C3s3Po-00760-00193500-00193661 hilarious ki4y3C3s3Po-00761-00193662-00193978 um nonsense too and Agatha Christie's ki4y3C3s3Po-00762-00193979-00194231 murder on the Nile ki4y3C3s3Po-00763-00194232-00194525 and that's just her Wichita theater and ki4y3C3s3Po-00764-00194526-00194837 stage two which is basically ki4y3C3s3Po-00765-00194838-00194981 the same thing I mean it's the same ki4y3C3s3Po-00766-00194982-00195166 owners except ones right across the ki4y3C3s3Po-00767-00195167-00195335 street from the other ki4y3C3s3Po-00768-00195336-00195743 um back door theater they have a smaller ki4y3C3s3Po-00769-00195744-00196204 scaled down season planned for this year ki4y3C3s3Po-00770-00196205-00196349 um but it still looks very exciting ki4y3C3s3Po-00771-00196350-00196613 there's still backdoor theater ki4y3C3s3Po-00772-00196614-00196949 um who I absolutely love and adore ki4y3C3s3Po-00773-00196950-00197219 they've had a lot of hardships ki4y3C3s3Po-00774-00197220-00197525 um since coming a lot a lot of hardships ki4y3C3s3Po-00775-00197526-00197663 they had a really serious blood and ki4y3C3s3Po-00776-00197664-00197921 they're still trying to get their ki4y3C3s3Po-00777-00197922-00198143 um thinner stage ki4y3C3s3Po-00778-00198144-00198461 back in order uh they yeah as I said ki4y3C3s3Po-00779-00198462-00198707 they had an awful flood that completely ki4y3C3s3Po-00780-00198708-00198995 decimated the dinner stage and they're ki4y3C3s3Po-00781-00198996-00199216 finally finally starting to get that ki4y3C3s3Po-00782-00199217-00199438 back but they've had to scale down quite ki4y3C3s3Po-00783-00199439-00199625 a bit because they don't have that ki4y3C3s3Po-00784-00199626-00199793 available I mean it's so much easier to ki4y3C3s3Po-00785-00199794-00200038 add more shows whatever you have two ki4y3C3s3Po-00786-00200039-00200140 stages ki4y3C3s3Po-00787-00200141-00200423 um but supposedly they're they're coming ki4y3C3s3Po-00788-00200424-00200663 close to an end but they're going to ki4y3C3s3Po-00789-00200664-00200914 start their year with Xanadu which is ki4y3C3s3Po-00790-00200915-00201023 awesome ki4y3C3s3Po-00791-00201024-00201400 I uh some cheesy roller skating gotta ki4y3C3s3Po-00792-00201401-00201563 love it ki4y3C3s3Po-00793-00201564-00202049 um Mad Libs live which is a musical ki4y3C3s3Po-00794-00202050-00202259 um it's supposed to change every night ki4y3C3s3Po-00795-00202260-00202637 which is kind of interesting uh I have a ki4y3C3s3Po-00796-00202638-00202840 feeling they're gonna pull on a lot of ki4y3C3s3Po-00797-00202841-00202937 their ki4y3C3s3Po-00798-00202938-00203195 um improv people yeah which is is going ki4y3C3s3Po-00799-00203196-00203375 to be a lot of fun ki4y3C3s3Po-00800-00203376-00203681 um The Lightning Thief per the Percy ki4y3C3s3Po-00801-00203682-00204016 Jackson musical which I'm super super ki4y3C3s3Po-00802-00204017-00204199 excited about ki4y3C3s3Po-00803-00204200-00204433 might have to come back out for that one ki4y3C3s3Po-00804-00204434-00204671 uh good timing for that too because ki4y3C3s3Po-00805-00204672-00204869 they're they're Reviving The the film ki4y3C3s3Po-00806-00204869-00205408 franchise I think ki4y3C3s3Po-00807-00205409-00205666 I just worried that that backdoor ki4y3C3s3Po-00808-00205667-00205919 theater's Auditorium isn't big enough to ki4y3C3s3Po-00809-00205919-00206129 hold everybody so make sure when that ki4y3C3s3Po-00810-00206130-00206332 comes out get your tickets early so you ki4y3C3s3Po-00811-00206333-00206531 can go see it ki4y3C3s3Po-00812-00206532-00206777 um they're also after that they're doing ki4y3C3s3Po-00813-00206778-00207053 Sherwood The Adventures of Robin Hood ki4y3C3s3Po-00814-00207054-00207210 it's a Kim ki4y3C3s3Po-00815-00207211-00207490 Ludwig's play ki4y3C3s3Po-00816-00207491-00207562 um ki4y3C3s3Po-00817-00207563-00207869 kid Ludwig I'm I'll be honest I haven't ki4y3C3s3Po-00818-00207869-00208336 read this particular show but uh he is ki4y3C3s3Po-00819-00208337-00208673 known for his extreme comedy his extreme ki4y3C3s3Po-00820-00208673-00208979 farce so I am guessing and this is just ki4y3C3s3Po-00821-00208980-00209153 a guess maybe this is a rule breaker ki4y3C3s3Po-00822-00209154-00209423 show but I'm guessing that this is most ki4y3C3s3Po-00823-00209423-00209860 likely gonna be a hilarious comedy so ki4y3C3s3Po-00824-00209861-00210005 it's ki4y3C3s3Po-00825-00210006-00210184 it's gonna be one that's gonna be fun to ki4y3C3s3Po-00826-00210185-00210281 watch ki4y3C3s3Po-00827-00210282-00210665 um they're also bringing in pups which I ki4y3C3s3Po-00828-00210666-00210827 don't know if anybody has ever heard of ki4y3C3s3Po-00829-00210828-00211360 that but it is awesome it is a a spoof ki4y3C3s3Po-00830-00211361-00211715 of Harry Potter and ki4y3C3s3Po-00831-00211716-00211967 um I watched it a few years ago on ki4y3C3s3Po-00832-00211967-00212273 Broadway HD at streaming service that I ki4y3C3s3Po-00833-00212273-00212417 have and ki4y3C3s3Po-00834-00212417-00212771 it is so gosh darn funny it really is ki4y3C3s3Po-00835-00212771-00213082 it's absolutely hilarious and um that's ki4y3C3s3Po-00836-00213083-00213341 one if you're a Harry Potter fan at all ki4y3C3s3Po-00837-00213342-00213598 you're gonna want to see pups you might ki4y3C3s3Po-00838-00213600-00213815 even want to audition for it ki4y3C3s3Po-00839-00213816-00214067 um it's one that's kind of like mad libs ki4y3C3s3Po-00840-00214067-00214241 that it can change a little bit every ki4y3C3s3Po-00841-00214242-00214546 night there's a little bit of improv ki4y3C3s3Po-00842-00214548-00214642 um ki4y3C3s3Po-00843-00214644-00215027 but it it spoofs pretty much all the ki4y3C3s3Po-00844-00215028-00215363 Harry Potter characters ki4y3C3s3Po-00845-00215364-00215848 um and uh as you might guess Puffs is ki4y3C3s3Po-00846-00215850-00216282 based on Hufflepuff and uh ki4y3C3s3Po-00847-00216283-00216544 and there's just ki4y3C3s3Po-00848-00216546-00216773 the the whole thing is is the ki4y3C3s3Po-00849-00216773-00217079 hufflepuffs living in you know Harry ki4y3C3s3Po-00850-00217080-00217369 Potter and gryffindor's Shadow and ki4y3C3s3Po-00851-00217369-00217691 philosophy is ki4y3C3s3Po-00852-00217692-00218275 foreign ki4y3C3s3Po-00853-00218276-00218513 like that where it's like the ravenclaws ki4y3C3s3Po-00854-00218514-00218651 and the hufflepuffs and everyone else ki4y3C3s3Po-00855-00218652-00218896 are just kind of there and all the crazy ki4y3C3s3Po-00856-00218898-00219208 like Voldemort stuff is happening like ki4y3C3s3Po-00857-00219209-00219473 elsewhere so it's like waiting for Godot ki4y3C3s3Po-00858-00219473-00219694 but Harry Potter that's that sounds like ki4y3C3s3Po-00859-00219696-00219923 that would be really a really ki4y3C3s3Po-00860-00219923-00220151 interesting premise ki4y3C3s3Po-00861-00220152-00220379 it kind of goes through the whole series ki4y3C3s3Po-00862-00220380-00220792 of Harry Potter and one short hilarious ki4y3C3s3Po-00863-00220794-00221069 play like I mean it goes through the ki4y3C3s3Po-00864-00221069-00221279 whole Cedric death and it's their Idol ki4y3C3s3Po-00865-00221280-00221531 because Cedric was the most famous pup ki4y3C3s3Po-00866-00221532-00221873 and oh they're crushed and but it's it's ki4y3C3s3Po-00867-00221873-00222217 a really really fun fun show I've out of ki4y3C3s3Po-00868-00222217-00222575 all of the shows coming in both shows of ki4y3C3s3Po-00869-00222576-00222803 the seasons that's the one that I'm ki4y3C3s3Po-00870-00222804-00223132 really looking forward to the most ki4y3C3s3Po-00871-00223133-00223396 um and I think backdoor's gonna round ki4y3C3s3Po-00872-00223398-00223865 out their season with Scrooge and Rouge ki4y3C3s3Po-00873-00223866-00224296 which I am also not familiar with and um ki4y3C3s3Po-00874-00224298-00224494 I have to say I love that backdoor is ki4y3C3s3Po-00875-00224496-00224879 pulling in shows that are new and fresh ki4y3C3s3Po-00876-00224880-00225155 because that's a that's a big deal a lot ki4y3C3s3Po-00877-00225156-00225365 of people they get tired of seeing the ki4y3C3s3Po-00878-00225366-00225653 same show over and over and over again ki4y3C3s3Po-00879-00225654-00225881 and although I mean some of those same ki4y3C3s3Po-00880-00225882-00226241 shows that they put on over and over ki4y3C3s3Po-00881-00226242-00226498 um tend to make money it's it's good to ki4y3C3s3Po-00882-00226500-00226913 see some fresh shows so I'm I'm really ki4y3C3s3Po-00883-00226914-00227213 looking forward to both of the seasons ki4y3C3s3Po-00884-00227214-00227506 uh but especially some of those new ki4y3C3s3Po-00885-00227507-00227813 shows that people haven't seen yet and I ki4y3C3s3Po-00886-00227814-00227987 mean both theaters have new shows that ki4y3C3s3Po-00887-00227988-00228221 are coming out but ki4y3C3s3Po-00888-00228221-00228353 um ki4y3C3s3Po-00889-00228354-00228731 the back door does tend to have a ki4y3C3s3Po-00890-00228732-00229060 newer shows and more fresh shows than ki4y3C3s3Po-00891-00229061-00229325 Wichita tends to do ki4y3C3s3Po-00892-00229326-00229631 um a huge difference between the the two ki4y3C3s3Po-00893-00229632-00229913 theaters is Wichita tends to do more ki4y3C3s3Po-00894-00229914-00230260 family shows and musicals whereas ki4y3C3s3Po-00895-00230261-00230477 backdoor theater ki4y3C3s3Po-00896-00230478-00230842 um they do have some family shows but ki4y3C3s3Po-00897-00230844-00231089 mostly it's not mostly it's for adults ki4y3C3s3Po-00898-00231090-00231406 it's it's for the date nights I mean go ki4y3C3s3Po-00899-00231407-00231623 with your significant other and enjoy ki4y3C3s3Po-00900-00231623-00231856 yourself whereas if you want to bring ki4y3C3s3Po-00901-00231857-00232096 the kids take those to back to Wichita ki4y3C3s3Po-00902-00232098-00232373 theater so ki4y3C3s3Po-00903-00232373-00232732 it's uh yeah they're they're all they're ki4y3C3s3Po-00904-00232733-00232942 very different now Wichita theater stage ki4y3C3s3Po-00905-00232944-00233615 two they do put on a little bit older ki4y3C3s3Po-00906-00233616-00233867 um shows but they still won't ki4y3C3s3Po-00907-00233867-00234131 put any show on ki4y3C3s3Po-00908-00234132-00234323 that you can't really bring the family ki4y3C3s3Po-00909-00234323-00234665 to uh but I will say that like for stage ki4y3C3s3Po-00910-00234666-00234784 two ki4y3C3s3Po-00911-00234785-00235037 I mean not that they have like parental ki4y3C3s3Po-00912-00235038-00235265 guidances but it's more of like a PG-13 ki4y3C3s3Po-00913-00235266-00235715 kind of of theater uh whereas ki4y3C3s3Po-00914-00235716-00236296 the Wichita theater is like G or BT ki4y3C3s3Po-00915-00236298-00236591 um whereas back door theater tends to ki4y3C3s3Po-00916-00236592-00236819 put on ki4y3C3s3Po-00917-00236819-00236982 more mature ki4y3C3s3Po-00918-00236983-00237527 more PG-13 to our R rated stuff ki4y3C3s3Po-00919-00237528-00237694 yeah yeah well it's good that there are ki4y3C3s3Po-00920-00237696-00237882 that there are locations that actually ki4y3C3s3Po-00921-00237883-00238163 do tend to focus more on the different ki4y3C3s3Po-00922-00238164-00238337 types of demographics that they that ki4y3C3s3Po-00923-00238338-00238475 they're used to that's that's better ki4y3C3s3Po-00924-00238476-00238619 than just like kind of having a wild ki4y3C3s3Po-00925-00238619-00238792 card or something ki4y3C3s3Po-00926-00238794-00239129 exactly exactly because I mean it it ki4y3C3s3Po-00927-00239130-00239644 helps families especially because ki4y3C3s3Po-00928-00239646-00239848 um like I I have kids and I want to get ki4y3C3s3Po-00929-00239850-00239998 my I want to make sure that my kids are ki4y3C3s3Po-00930-00240000-00240287 involved in theater and well with me as ki4y3C3s3Po-00931-00240288-00240431 a mom they really don't have a choice if ki4y3C3s3Po-00932-00240432-00240708 we're being honest ki4y3C3s3Po-00933-00240709-00241013 but I know that ki4y3C3s3Po-00934-00241014-00241282 I can even if I hadn't heard of a show ki4y3C3s3Po-00935-00241283-00241475 before I can get tickets at Wichita ki4y3C3s3Po-00936-00241476-00241792 theater and it's always going to be fine ki4y3C3s3Po-00937-00241794-00242189 for my kids to go to always whereas if I ki4y3C3s3Po-00938-00242190-00242405 want to go just on a date night with my ki4y3C3s3Po-00939-00242406-00242710 husband or just go with with the ladies ki4y3C3s3Po-00940-00242711-00242903 or whatever ki4y3C3s3Po-00941-00242904-00243244 um and have more adult mature content ki4y3C3s3Po-00942-00243246-00243527 that I'm probably gonna go to backdoor ki4y3C3s3Po-00943-00243528-00243808 theater instead so it does it helps as ki4y3C3s3Po-00944-00243809-00244181 far as that's concerned that's cool ki4y3C3s3Po-00945-00244182-00244384 uh do you have any advice for like ki4y3C3s3Po-00946-00244385-00244763 aspiring theater people be it uh anyone ki4y3C3s3Po-00947-00244764-00244889 who wants to work behind the scenes ki4y3C3s3Po-00948-00244890-00245027 anyone who's interested in being an ki4y3C3s3Po-00949-00245028-00245339 actor ki4y3C3s3Po-00950-00245340-00245692 so first of all whatever there are ki4y3C3s3Po-00951-00245694-00246208 auditions just go just try and if you ki4y3C3s3Po-00952-00246209-00246491 don't get cast that first time ki4y3C3s3Po-00953-00246492-00246851 do it again I mean and I know that's ki4y3C3s3Po-00954-00246852-00247079 so much easier said than done because ki4y3C3s3Po-00955-00247080-00247337 there's so many people that come out and ki4y3C3s3Po-00956-00247338-00247589 they'll audition once and they won't get ki4y3C3s3Po-00957-00247590-00247744 a part and they're like oh no I'm done ki4y3C3s3Po-00958-00247746-00247979 I'm not good enough I'm I I don't want ki4y3C3s3Po-00959-00247980-00248146 to do this anymore that's heartbreaking ki4y3C3s3Po-00960-00248148-00248446 and I mean to be honest actors do have ki4y3C3s3Po-00961-00248448-00248837 to have a strong Constitution and be ki4y3C3s3Po-00962-00248838-00249203 okay with rejection because you have to ki4y3C3s3Po-00963-00249204-00249358 get out there and you have to try again ki4y3C3s3Po-00964-00249359-00249641 because not every show has a part for ki4y3C3s3Po-00965-00249642-00249929 every single person it's just that's ki4y3C3s3Po-00966-00249930-00250210 just how it is and just because you ki4y3C3s3Po-00967-00250211-00250403 weren't right for one particular show ki4y3C3s3Po-00968-00250404-00250553 doesn't mean you're not going to be ki4y3C3s3Po-00969-00250554-00250775 right for other shows so my biggest ki4y3C3s3Po-00970-00250776-00251051 advice is just get out there put ki4y3C3s3Po-00971-00251052-00251471 yourself out there and try and if you ki4y3C3s3Po-00972-00251471-00251615 don't get a part ki4y3C3s3Po-00973-00251616-00251891 um make sure you put or whatever you ki4y3C3s3Po-00974-00251892-00252148 would do the audition for make sure you ki4y3C3s3Po-00975-00252150-00252353 put on there that you're willing to work ki4y3C3s3Po-00976-00252354-00252589 backstage that you're willing to do ki4y3C3s3Po-00977-00252590-00252953 whatever it takes and volunteer whatever ki4y3C3s3Po-00978-00252954-00253187 way so just get your foot in the door ki4y3C3s3Po-00979-00253188-00253505 because sometimes the theater's really ki4y3C3s3Po-00980-00253506-00253679 look for that that's really what they're ki4y3C3s3Po-00981-00253680-00253823 looking for ki4y3C3s3Po-00982-00253823-00254008 um so say somebody ki4y3C3s3Po-00983-00254009-00254375 goes to audition for a show and maybe ki4y3C3s3Po-00984-00254376-00254579 they're not the best singer but the best ki4y3C3s3Po-00985-00254580-00254848 actor or whatever maybe they were just ki4y3C3s3Po-00986-00254850-00255006 kind of okay but they didn't get cast ki4y3C3s3Po-00987-00255007-00255341 but they're always up there volunteering ki4y3C3s3Po-00988-00255342-00255508 for whatever maybe they're helping build ki4y3C3s3Po-00989-00255509-00255689 a set maybe they're helping with ki4y3C3s3Po-00990-00255690-00256067 concession stand or ushering or whatever ki4y3C3s3Po-00991-00256067-00256391 that still gets your face out there and ki4y3C3s3Po-00992-00256392-00256631 it gets them to know you and the more ki4y3C3s3Po-00993-00256632-00256787 they know you ki4y3C3s3Po-00994-00256788-00256948 the more they're going to be likely to ki4y3C3s3Po-00995-00256950-00257273 cast you in shows honestly ki4y3C3s3Po-00996-00257273-00257639 so I mean as I said that's just that's ki4y3C3s3Po-00997-00257640-00258017 my biggest big bit of advice to ki4y3C3s3Po-00998-00258017-00258287 put yourself on the line don't be afraid ki4y3C3s3Po-00999-00258288-00258508 of rejection don't take rejection ki4y3C3s3Po-01000-00258509-00258815 personally as well because the casting ki4y3C3s3Po-01001-00258816-00259067 committee ki4y3C3s3Po-01002-00259067-00259210 they're not there to make friends ki4y3C3s3Po-01003-00259211-00259546 they're they're to cast a show and again ki4y3C3s3Po-01004-00259548-00259805 not everybody is right for every role I ki4y3C3s3Po-01005-00259806-00260032 mean I have auditioned for ki4y3C3s3Po-01006-00260033-00260291 tons and tons of shows and didn't get ki4y3C3s3Po-01007-00260292-00260392 apart ki4y3C3s3Po-01008-00260394-00260794 but I still get out there and ki4y3C3s3Po-01009-00260796-00260896 um ki4y3C3s3Po-01010-00260898-00261077 I mean you just you never know what show ki4y3C3s3Po-01011-00261078-00261263 is going to be right for you and what ki4y3C3s3Po-01012-00261264-00261515 they might see you as and another thing ki4y3C3s3Po-01013-00261516-00261767 like say you're auditioning for a show ki4y3C3s3Po-01014-00261767-00262019 and you have your mind set on one ki4y3C3s3Po-01015-00262019-00262217 particular role ki4y3C3s3Po-01016-00262218-00262429 get that out of your mind ki4y3C3s3Po-01017-00262430-00262708 because whenever you go on audition I ki4y3C3s3Po-01018-00262709-00262858 mean you can always put on your audition ki4y3C3s3Po-01019-00262859-00263273 form hey I'm interested in ki4y3C3s3Po-01020-00263274-00263717 Miss Hannigan and Annie and you could ki4y3C3s3Po-01021-00263718-00263891 audition for it but maybe maybe they ki4y3C3s3Po-01022-00263892-00264065 don't see you as a Heineken maybe they ki4y3C3s3Po-01023-00264066-00264395 see you as a Grace or an Annie maybe ki4y3C3s3Po-01024-00264396-00264587 you're 11 years old and can play Annie ki4y3C3s3Po-01025-00264588-00264905 who knows ki4y3C3s3Po-01026-00264906-00265319 um but don't like wall yourself in be ki4y3C3s3Po-01027-00265320-00265517 open to those other roles because ki4y3C3s3Po-01028-00265518-00265805 there's I've sat in plenty of casting ki4y3C3s3Po-01029-00265806-00266165 committees where somebody will say oh no ki4y3C3s3Po-01030-00266166-00266375 I want this role but we're like you know ki4y3C3s3Po-01031-00266376-00266471 what ki4y3C3s3Po-01032-00266472-00266753 you would be so much better in this ki4y3C3s3Po-01033-00266754-00267089 other role and there's been times that ki4y3C3s3Po-01034-00267090-00267245 they're like no I don't want that other ki4y3C3s3Po-01035-00267246-00267665 role I only want that one so Deuces but ki4y3C3s3Po-01036-00267666-00267971 don't do that I mean just kind of ki4y3C3s3Po-01037-00267972-00268253 just be open to those things to those ki4y3C3s3Po-01038-00268254-00268601 experiences because it's a lot of fun ki4y3C3s3Po-01039-00268602-00268805 um once you get in there ki4y3C3s3Po-01040-00268806-00269182 and you start rehearsing being a part of ki4y3C3s3Po-01041-00269183-00269471 a theater family a theater cast ki4y3C3s3Po-01042-00269472-00269969 it really it it becomes a family and ki4y3C3s3Po-01043-00269970-00270275 there's no other experience like it it ki4y3C3s3Po-01044-00270276-00270515 really is I mean they are theater people ki4y3C3s3Po-01045-00270516-00270839 are probably some of the most accepting ki4y3C3s3Po-01046-00270840-00271258 people on the planet of anyone and ki4y3C3s3Po-01047-00271259-00271397 everyone ki4y3C3s3Po-01048-00271398-00271619 um it doesn't matter political ki4y3C3s3Po-01049-00271620-00271915 affiliation sexual orientation ki4y3C3s3Po-01050-00271916-00272206 none of that matters to theater people ki4y3C3s3Po-01051-00272207-00272489 they just they want you to belong and ki4y3C3s3Po-01052-00272490-00272663 they want you to feel welcome ki4y3C3s3Po-01053-00272664-00272980 so if you're looking for that kind of of ki4y3C3s3Po-01054-00272981-00273155 camaraderie ki4y3C3s3Po-01055-00273156-00273347 definitely ki4y3C3s3Po-01056-00273348-00273647 definitely uh consider auditioning for a ki4y3C3s3Po-01057-00273648-00273827 show and doing some local theater we've ki4y3C3s3Po-01058-00273828-00273925 got ki4y3C3s3Po-01059-00273926-00274199 amazing amazing theater opportunities ki4y3C3s3Po-01060-00274200-00274427 here in Wichita Falls ki4y3C3s3Po-01061-00274428-00274727 um Wichita Falls is very very rare in ki4y3C3s3Po-01062-00274728-00275171 the fact that we have more than one ki4y3C3s3Po-01063-00275172-00275345 Community Theater in town we actually ki4y3C3s3Po-01064-00275346-00275579 have three technically we have three ki4y3C3s3Po-01065-00275580-00275921 stages I mean two of them are owned by ki4y3C3s3Po-01066-00275922-00276101 the same well I ki4y3C3s3Po-01067-00276102-00276263 I guess if you want to be technical we ki4y3C3s3Po-01068-00276264-00276551 have four stages once the factor theater ki4y3C3s3Po-01069-00276552-00276767 dinner stage is completed ki4y3C3s3Po-01070-00276768-00276863 um ki4y3C3s3Po-01071-00276864-00277145 but there's so much opportunity in this ki4y3C3s3Po-01072-00277146-00277439 town and it's very rare I honestly don't ki4y3C3s3Po-01073-00277440-00277589 know if there's anywhere else in the ki4y3C3s3Po-01074-00277590-00277949 country especially with our population ki4y3C3s3Po-01075-00277950-00278147 density ki4y3C3s3Po-01076-00278148-00278417 that have nearly as much theater ki4y3C3s3Po-01077-00278418-00278789 opportunities as we do here we're we are ki4y3C3s3Po-01078-00278790-00279058 very very blessed in that department ki4y3C3s3Po-01079-00279059-00279358 yeah I have a quick question for you ki4y3C3s3Po-01080-00279359-00279569 um well besides almost dying in an ki4y3C3s3Po-01081-00279570-00279851 Alleyway on a rickety bunch of stairs do ki4y3C3s3Po-01082-00279852-00280175 you have a a memory that sticks with you ki4y3C3s3Po-01083-00280176-00280289 um from the theater ki4y3C3s3Po-01084-00280290-00280684 uh cherished memory of any sort ki4y3C3s3Po-01085-00280685-00281482 s uh ki4y3C3s3Po-01086-00281483-00281771 uh backdoor theater this was probably my ki4y3C3s3Po-01087-00281772-00281956 first ki4y3C3s3Po-01088-00281957-00282282 big oops on stage ki4y3C3s3Po-01089-00282283-00282658 that that we all Eddie actor remembers ki4y3C3s3Po-01090-00282659-00283121 their big oopses and well at my age I've ki4y3C3s3Po-01091-00283122-00283463 had quite a few but my first big one uh ki4y3C3s3Po-01092-00283464-00283703 we were doing Oliver for some of Youth ki4y3C3s3Po-01093-00283704-00284063 Musical and I was just a chorus member ki4y3C3s3Po-01094-00284064-00284410 and uh we were doing um Papa which was ki4y3C3s3Po-01095-00284411-00284801 the big uh like Bar number and ki4y3C3s3Po-01096-00284802-00285084 um I had a mug ki4y3C3s3Po-01097-00285085-00285545 well I go and I sit on this guy's lap ki4y3C3s3Po-01098-00285546-00285839 that is sitting down stage right and ki4y3C3s3Po-01099-00285840-00286182 he's sitting on this bench ki4y3C3s3Po-01100-00286183-00286475 I know and I I sit on his lap like I'm ki4y3C3s3Po-01101-00286476-00286669 supposed to when the song just kind of ki4y3C3s3Po-01102-00286670-00287017 Carefree well the bench breaks ki4y3C3s3Po-01103-00287018-00287477 while whenever I sat on it and he ki4y3C3s3Po-01104-00287478-00287717 literally had nowhere to put me he ki4y3C3s3Po-01105-00287718-00287927 couldn't hold me so he just takes me and ki4y3C3s3Po-01106-00287928-00288280 he throws me over his head and I am ki4y3C3s3Po-01107-00288281-00288587 literally caught by somebody in the ki4y3C3s3Po-01108-00288588-00288895 audience on the front row so ki4y3C3s3Po-01109-00288896-00289177 so yeah I mean I'm just ki4y3C3s3Po-01110-00289178-00289475 thrown and ki4y3C3s3Po-01111-00289476-00289834 the audience member they got a a ki4y3C3s3Po-01112-00289835-00290291 surprise that they were expecting ki4y3C3s3Po-01113-00290292-00290513 um but you know what I I got back up and ki4y3C3s3Po-01114-00290514-00290729 I grabbed my beer mug acted like it was ki4y3C3s3Po-01115-00290730-00290917 all part of the show and just kept going ki4y3C3s3Po-01116-00290918-00291184 wow what a performance can you believe ki4y3C3s3Po-01117-00291185-00291360 they do them every every other night ki4y3C3s3Po-01118-00291361-00291763 [Laughter] ki4y3C3s3Po-01119-00291764-00291989 that's awesome ki4y3C3s3Po-01120-00291990-00292121 oh ki4y3C3s3Po-01121-00292122-00292343 so where can people go to get ki4y3C3s3Po-01122-00292344-00292667 information about uh auditions or your ki4y3C3s3Po-01123-00292668-00292895 show times or just just about anything ki4y3C3s3Po-01124-00292896-00293051 they might want to know about any of the ki4y3C3s3Po-01125-00293052-00293255 local theaters around here ki4y3C3s3Po-01126-00293256-00293597 um both theaters have a website uh ki4y3C3s3Po-01127-00293598-00293917 Wichita theater is Wichita theater.com ki4y3C3s3Po-01128-00293918-00294169 and backdoor is ki4y3C3s3Po-01129-00294170-00294403 backdoortheater.org do not look up ki4y3C3s3Po-01130-00294404-00294634 backdoortheater.com because you will be ki4y3C3s3Po-01131-00294635-00294887 in for an unpleasant well maybe Pleasant ki4y3C3s3Po-01132-00294888-00295060 for you I don't know what your cases are ki4y3C3s3Po-01133-00295061-00295187 but ki4y3C3s3Po-01134-00295188-00296530 let me look that up at work real quick ki4y3C3s3Po-01135-00296531-00296789 um but both theaters are also very ki4y3C3s3Po-01136-00296790-00297017 heavily represented on Facebook I ki4y3C3s3Po-01137-00297018-00297221 totally suggest ki4y3C3s3Po-01138-00297222-00297275 um ki4y3C3s3Po-01139-00297276-00297569 getting on there following the theaters ki4y3C3s3Po-01140-00297570-00297743 Pages ki4y3C3s3Po-01141-00297744-00298030 um check them regularly as well check ki4y3C3s3Po-01142-00298031-00298349 the the Facebooks and the websites ki4y3C3s3Po-01143-00298350-00298577 regularly because they update those ki4y3C3s3Po-01144-00298578-00298915 auditions all the time and ki4y3C3s3Po-01145-00298916-00299297 sometimes they don't give a whole lot of ki4y3C3s3Po-01146-00299298-00299506 notice for auditions I mean usually ki4y3C3s3Po-01147-00299507-00299693 they're pretty good about giving a few ki4y3C3s3Po-01148-00299694-00299939 weeks but there has been in the past ki4y3C3s3Po-01149-00299940-00300101 some occasions ki4y3C3s3Po-01150-00300102-00300371 where you might only have like a week or ki4y3C3s3Po-01151-00300372-00300730 so before an audition and if you're not ki4y3C3s3Po-01152-00300731-00300905 on top of it and if you're not looking ki4y3C3s3Po-01153-00300906-00301408 you'll miss it so just make sure you you ki4y3C3s3Po-01154-00301409-00301732 like and follow their pages and so that ki4y3C3s3Po-01155-00301733-00302027 you see all those updates that they do ki4y3C3s3Po-01156-00302028-00302208 um ki4y3C3s3Po-01157-00302209-00302458 to bring this back to the library for a ki4y3C3s3Po-01158-00302459-00302555 second ki4y3C3s3Po-01159-00302556-00302806 uh some of our students out there might ki4y3C3s3Po-01160-00302807-00303077 go but how ain't I'm gonna like it ki4y3C3s3Po-01161-00303078-00303365 I will point out that our students and ki4y3C3s3Po-01162-00303366-00303593 our staff members and our faculty do ki4y3C3s3Po-01163-00303594-00303755 have access to one of our databases ki4y3C3s3Po-01164-00303756-00304013 which is digital theater online ki4y3C3s3Po-01165-00304014-00304384 and digital theater has hundreds of live ki4y3C3s3Po-01166-00304385-00304708 productions so if you want to see into ki4y3C3s3Po-01167-00304709-00304925 the woods you actually have it can ki4y3C3s3Po-01168-00304926-00305158 stream it to your computer for free if ki4y3C3s3Po-01169-00305159-00305321 you want to see ki4y3C3s3Po-01170-00305322-00305543 um Barefoot in the Park again I've been ki4y3C3s3Po-01171-00305544-00305747 checking it we actually have Barefoot in ki4y3C3s3Po-01172-00305748-00305969 the Park uh production of it it has it ki4y3C3s3Po-01173-00305970-00306130 has Broadway it has the Royal ki4y3C3s3Po-01174-00306131-00306353 Shakespeare company it has uh the LA ki4y3C3s3Po-01175-00306354-00306575 theater it has so many different uh ki4y3C3s3Po-01176-00306576-00306784 theaters throughout the the United ki4y3C3s3Po-01177-00306785-00307043 States Europe and the world in this ki4y3C3s3Po-01178-00307044-00307265 database and you guys have access to all ki4y3C3s3Po-01179-00307266-00307397 of them if again if you are a current ki4y3C3s3Po-01180-00307398-00307606 student here you can spend your entire ki4y3C3s3Po-01181-00307607-00307858 time doing this watching great live ki4y3C3s3Po-01182-00307859-00308165 theater on on it to see will I like ki4y3C3s3Po-01183-00308166-00308332 because again I I know a lot of the ki4y3C3s3Po-01184-00308333-00308471 students are going I think I'm going to ki4y3C3s3Po-01185-00308472-00308567 like that I don't know if I'm going to ki4y3C3s3Po-01186-00308568-00308747 like that particular production or how ki4y3C3s3Po-01187-00308748-00308963 do I like that story if you want to ki4y3C3s3Po-01188-00308964-00309125 check it out you can check it out we ki4y3C3s3Po-01189-00309126-00309347 have lots of different things online for ki4y3C3s3Po-01190-00309348-00309532 you to look at and anything that gets ki4y3C3s3Po-01191-00309533-00309713 people interested into theater I think ki4y3C3s3Po-01192-00309714-00309929 is worth it so and again you guys are ki4y3C3s3Po-01193-00309930-00310079 paying for it it's a stream service ki4y3C3s3Po-01194-00310080-00310373 that's not really used that much and I ki4y3C3s3Po-01195-00310374-00310499 think a lot of people out there aren't ki4y3C3s3Po-01196-00310500-00310679 aware of it and again it's digital ki4y3C3s3Po-01197-00310680-00310879 theater it's in the library databases ki4y3C3s3Po-01198-00310880-00311189 literally hundreds of ki4y3C3s3Po-01199-00311190-00311327 um live productions that have been ki4y3C3s3Po-01200-00311328-00311423 filmed ki4y3C3s3Po-01201-00311424-00311591 that's awesome I kind of wish I could ki4y3C3s3Po-01202-00311592-00311789 get in on some of that I'm just saying ki4y3C3s3Po-01203-00311790-00311917 well ki4y3C3s3Po-01204-00311918-00312154 take a lifelong learning class you'll ki4y3C3s3Po-01205-00312155-00312406 have access to it as a as a disclaimer ki4y3C3s3Po-01206-00312407-00312695 we're not saying watch that instead of ki4y3C3s3Po-01207-00312696-00312934 the Productions that our theaters are ki4y3C3s3Po-01208-00312935-00313175 putting on the thing with with theater ki4y3C3s3Po-01209-00313176-00313354 though if you if you really are asking ki4y3C3s3Po-01210-00313355-00313523 why why should I watch this why should I ki4y3C3s3Po-01211-00313524-00313732 go and sit down and and take the time ki4y3C3s3Po-01212-00313733-00313901 because because some shows especially ki4y3C3s3Po-01213-00313902-00314056 some some of the bigger ones can last ki4y3C3s3Po-01214-00314057-00314189 for quite a bit ki4y3C3s3Po-01215-00314190-00314423 I've I've heard of shows that go on for ki4y3C3s3Po-01216-00314424-00314651 multiple days even depending on I don't ki4y3C3s3Po-01217-00314652-00314758 know if our theaters do that but ki4y3C3s3Po-01218-00314759-00314927 depending on how big it is you might ki4y3C3s3Po-01219-00314928-00315203 need three four days for one performance ki4y3C3s3Po-01220-00315204-00315503 to and to go through and when ki4y3C3s3Po-01221-00315504-00315815 when we say maybe check out one of the ki4y3C3s3Po-01222-00315816-00316067 recorded performances that's like those ki4y3C3s3Po-01223-00316068-00316306 are edited together they have different ki4y3C3s3Po-01224-00316307-00316487 shots for different cameras and stuff ki4y3C3s3Po-01225-00316488-00316810 the actual live event of going in and ki4y3C3s3Po-01226-00316811-00317039 watching a performance and seeing ki4y3C3s3Po-01227-00317040-00317254 different interpretations from different ki4y3C3s3Po-01228-00317255-00317501 actors of whatever character ki4y3C3s3Po-01229-00317502-00317729 that that they're portraying like that's ki4y3C3s3Po-01230-00317730-00317873 really what you want to do whenever ki4y3C3s3Po-01231-00317874-00318227 you're going to a live show at at any ki4y3C3s3Po-01232-00318228-00318377 kind of theater you're going there so ki4y3C3s3Po-01233-00318378-00318725 you can see a very unique take on ki4y3C3s3Po-01234-00318726-00318869 something that's that's been written ki4y3C3s3Po-01235-00318870-00319127 before that's been performed before uh ki4y3C3s3Po-01236-00319128-00319373 and I mean I I've seen some instances ki4y3C3s3Po-01237-00319374-00319727 where they where a theater will change a ki4y3C3s3Po-01238-00319728-00320021 setting they'll change uh genders for a ki4y3C3s3Po-01239-00320022-00320134 character ki4y3C3s3Po-01240-00320135-00320303 it just really depends on who's running ki4y3C3s3Po-01241-00320304-00320549 it who's going to be in the show like ki4y3C3s3Po-01242-00320550-00320779 you're going there for the performance ki4y3C3s3Po-01243-00320780-00321023 yeah one of the most brilliant live ki4y3C3s3Po-01244-00321024-00321232 performances I ever watched was back in ki4y3C3s3Po-01245-00321233-00321551 the 90s when SMU was doing ki4y3C3s3Po-01246-00321552-00321743 Hamlet ki4y3C3s3Po-01247-00321744-00321947 on Monday ki4y3C3s3Po-01248-00321948-00322271 Wednesday and Friday and doing rows and ki4y3C3s3Po-01249-00322272-00322504 crafts and Guildenstern Are Dead on ki4y3C3s3Po-01250-00322505-00322843 Tuesday Thursday and Saturday ki4y3C3s3Po-01251-00322844-00323195 that's fantastic nice I mean there's ki4y3C3s3Po-01252-00323196-00323399 also the that really old Family Guy ki4y3C3s3Po-01253-00323400-00323573 episode where they do ki4y3C3s3Po-01254-00323574-00323801 um ki4y3C3s3Po-01255-00323802-00323975 the The King and I was that what it was ki4y3C3s3Po-01256-00323976-00324358 I don't remember but um uh it becomes ki4y3C3s3Po-01257-00324359-00324715 like uh like a Mecca battle ki4y3C3s3Po-01258-00324716-00325121 uh show of some sort and yeah it's ki4y3C3s3Po-01259-00325122-00325301 that's an extreme example and it's ki4y3C3s3Po-01260-00325302-00325565 obviously a stupid one but it's that ki4y3C3s3Po-01261-00325566-00325745 same kind of concept where it really ki4y3C3s3Po-01262-00325746-00325889 just depends on who's running the show ki4y3C3s3Po-01263-00325890-00326069 also if you're really lucky and actors ki4y3C3s3Po-01264-00326070-00326195 will land in your laps so you know ki4y3C3s3Po-01265-00326196-00326327 they'll get that going for you right ki4y3C3s3Po-01266-00326328-00326417 exactly ki4y3C3s3Po-01267-00326418-00326687 exactly maybe not every ki4y3C3s3Po-01268-00326688-00327106 every problem but it can happen ki4y3C3s3Po-01269-00327107-00327382 stranger things literally have happened ki4y3C3s3Po-01270-00327383-00327527 yeah ki4y3C3s3Po-01271-00327528-00327934 sad picture ki4y3C3s3Po-01272-00327935-00328180 but true well as as much as we would uh ki4y3C3s3Po-01273-00328181-00328421 love to continue talking and we could I ki4y3C3s3Po-01274-00328422-00328637 I literally I've said this in every ki4y3C3s3Po-01275-00328638-00328984 every uh podcast for the last like six ki4y3C3s3Po-01276-00328985-00329123 months or something but we we could ki4y3C3s3Po-01277-00329124-00329375 continue talking for hours and hours but ki4y3C3s3Po-01278-00329376-00329567 we don't want to keep you it's been an ki4y3C3s3Po-01279-00329568-00329734 hour already and we've had a great time ki4y3C3s3Po-01280-00329735-00329975 but uh I think this is about the point ki4y3C3s3Po-01281-00329976-00330160 where we probably need to start uh ki4y3C3s3Po-01282-00330161-00330371 wrapping up uh ki4y3C3s3Po-01283-00330372-00330556 is there anything else that you'd like ki4y3C3s3Po-01284-00330557-00331553 to plug or or mention ki4y3C3s3Po-01285-00331554-00331891 Ed ki4y3C3s3Po-01286-00331892-00332230 touched on I own intense sleepovers ki4y3C3s3Po-01287-00332231-00332573 which is a party planning service where ki4y3C3s3Po-01288-00332574-00332777 we come to people's houses we set up ki4y3C3s3Po-01289-00332778-00333095 really cool uh tent sleepover setups ki4y3C3s3Po-01290-00333096-00333413 that are themed have air mattresses each ki4y3C3s3Po-01291-00333414-00333563 person has their own little personal ki4y3C3s3Po-01292-00333564-00333737 tents ki4y3C3s3Po-01293-00333738-00334145 um we gear towards uh kids and adults we ki4y3C3s3Po-01294-00334146-00334360 have uh themes for pretty much everybody ki4y3C3s3Po-01295-00334361-00334697 check us out at intense sleepovers.com ki4y3C3s3Po-01296-00334698-00334967 it's pretty cool we come check out our ki4y3C3s3Po-01297-00334968-00335356 setups and stuff it's pretty cool ki4y3C3s3Po-01298-00335357-00335765 oh I see your I see your uh things on ki4y3C3s3Po-01299-00335766-00335915 Facebook for that and they always look ki4y3C3s3Po-01300-00335916-00336173 really cool really cool setups uh you ki4y3C3s3Po-01301-00336174-00336454 just did the like a Bohemian one yeah ki4y3C3s3Po-01302-00336455-00336767 like a boho chic kind of thing it was ki4y3C3s3Po-01303-00336768-00337039 for a 10 year old little girl and she ki4y3C3s3Po-01304-00337040-00337295 loved it ki4y3C3s3Po-01305-00337296-00337487 cool ki4y3C3s3Po-01306-00337488-00337853 uh one one final update for me if you ki4y3C3s3Po-01307-00337854-00338129 were in a class that uh is requesting ki4y3C3s3Po-01308-00338130-00338321 you watch a digital film from Swank we ki4y3C3s3Po-01309-00338322-00338567 finally have that subscription up I'm so ki4y3C3s3Po-01310-00338568-00338704 sorry that it's taken this long to get ki4y3C3s3Po-01311-00338705-00339029 it but I'm looking at our ki4y3C3s3Po-01312-00339030-00339239 um films right now they're finally ki4y3C3s3Po-01313-00339240-00339449 available so ki4y3C3s3Po-01314-00339450-00339682 go check it out it's free to use if as ki4y3C3s3Po-01315-00339683-00339797 long as you're a student unfortunately ki4y3C3s3Po-01316-00339798-00339910 it's one of the problems when you're ki4y3C3s3Po-01317-00339911-00340067 when your budget has to be voted in ki4y3C3s3Po-01318-00340068-00340360 committee it takes a while ki4y3C3s3Po-01319-00340361-00340613 yeah so um just as a little update ki4y3C3s3Po-01320-00340614-00340817 that's there now ki4y3C3s3Po-01321-00340818-00341093 [Music] ki4y3C3s3Po-01322-00341094-00341332 okay do we want to look at stuff that's ki4y3C3s3Po-01323-00341333-00341608 about to happen on campus ki4y3C3s3Po-01324-00341609-00342017 sure go ahead okay uh let's see I'm ki4y3C3s3Po-01325-00342018-00342221 reading off of the page I used to read ki4y3C3s3Po-01326-00342222-00342484 off the Monitor and then I thought let's ki4y3C3s3Po-01327-00342485-00342913 try reading off a page ki4y3C3s3Po-01328-00342914-00343325 just to make it official ki4y3C3s3Po-01329-00343326-00343553 there you go thank you thank you ki4y3C3s3Po-01330-00343554-00343751 this just in ki4y3C3s3Po-01331-00343752-00344299 I've just been handed this announcement ki4y3C3s3Po-01332-00344300-00344591 the Red River reading series which ki4y3C3s3Po-01333-00344592-00344813 features poetry short fiction and ki4y3C3s3Po-01334-00344814-00344993 creative nonfiction by students and ki4y3C3s3Po-01335-00344994-00345341 faculty will present uh John Schultz and ki4y3C3s3Po-01336-00345342-00345725 Rita Beeman uh on Tuesday November 15th ki4y3C3s3Po-01337-00345726-00345973 in the Kyle room of the Student Center ki4y3C3s3Po-01338-00345974-00346229 uh that evening there's a jazz band ki4y3C3s3Po-01339-00346230-00346510 concert in Aiken Auditorium ki4y3C3s3Po-01340-00346511-00346799 on November 17th there's the ki4y3C3s3Po-01341-00346800-00347056 undergraduate research research and ki4y3C3s3Po-01342-00347057-00347351 creativity create wow let's try that ki4y3C3s3Po-01343-00347352-00347597 again uh I'll just edit this out I'm not ki4y3C3s3Po-01344-00347598-00347734 going to edit it uh there's the ki4y3C3s3Po-01345-00347735-00347945 undergraduate research and creative ki4y3C3s3Po-01346-00347946-00348353 activity Forum on the 17th uh and also ki4y3C3s3Po-01347-00348354-00348647 on the 17th our theater department is ki4y3C3s3Po-01348-00348648-00348875 starting their run of Peter and the ki4y3C3s3Po-01349-00348876-00349001 starcatcher ki4y3C3s3Po-01350-00349002-00349138 sorry about that one ki4y3C3s3Po-01351-00349139-00349295 [Music] ki4y3C3s3Po-01352-00349296-00349553 um on the 18th the senior exhibitions ki4y3C3s3Po-01353-00349554-00349780 will open in the Juanita Harvey art ki4y3C3s3Po-01354-00349781-00349882 gallery ki4y3C3s3Po-01355-00349883-00350099 and that evening there's a saxophone ki4y3C3s3Po-01356-00350100-00350356 Studio recital in Aitkin ki4y3C3s3Po-01357-00350357-00350879 the Fantasy of Lights uh 5K run is on ki4y3C3s3Po-01358-00350880-00351106 the 19th and then the opening ceremony ki4y3C3s3Po-01359-00351107-00351425 for the Fantasy of Lights is on the 21st ki4y3C3s3Po-01360-00351426-00351641 uh the art department is hosting a ki4y3C3s3Po-01361-00351642-00351863 graphic design Exhibition at psych ki4y3C3s3Po-01362-00351864-00352151 center mall starting on the 25th of ki4y3C3s3Po-01363-00352152-00352282 November and that's actually going to ki4y3C3s3Po-01364-00352283-00352582 run like through February so that'll be ki4y3C3s3Po-01365-00352583-00352841 there for a while uh music department ki4y3C3s3Po-01366-00352842-00353123 will have a holiday Extravaganza on ki4y3C3s3Po-01367-00353124-00353471 December 1st in Aitkin uh Mass com ki4y3C3s3Po-01368-00353472-00353710 department is doing screenings of their ki4y3C3s3Po-01369-00353711-00354023 senior documentaries uh December 9th in ki4y3C3s3Po-01370-00354024-00354299 the fine fine arts center and the ki4y3C3s3Po-01371-00354300-00354508 Juanita Harvey Art Gallery will host a ki4y3C3s3Po-01372-00354509-00354677 reception for their senior exhibition ki4y3C3s3Po-01373-00354678-00354971 that evening uh and our fall ki4y3C3s3Po-01374-00354972-00355349 commencement will be December 10th uh if ki4y3C3s3Po-01375-00355350-00355469 you'd like to have more information ki4y3C3s3Po-01376-00355470-00355727 about these activities or anything else ki4y3C3s3Po-01377-00355728-00355978 happening uh ki4y3C3s3Po-01378-00355979-00356189 on campus or in the surrounding ki4y3C3s3Po-01379-00356190-00356506 Community you could check out the events ki4y3C3s3Po-01380-00356507-00356854 section of the MSU Texas homepage and ki4y3C3s3Po-01381-00356855-00357047 for community events just go to the ki4y3C3s3Po-01382-00357048-00357454 calendar at Discover Wichita falls.com ki4y3C3s3Po-01383-00357455-00357875 slash events ki4y3C3s3Po-01384-00357876-00358051 foreign ki4y3C3s3Po-01385-00358052-00358360 I'll throw this in there too uh if you ki4y3C3s3Po-01386-00358361-00358534 have events or things going on that ki4y3C3s3Po-01387-00358535-00358799 you'd like us to mention just drop us a ki4y3C3s3Po-01388-00358800-00358984 line ki4y3C3s3Po-01389-00358985-00359219 I guess I could mention the the ones ki4y3C3s3Po-01390-00359220-00359428 that are coming up with our local ki4y3C3s3Po-01391-00359429-00359669 theaters for this weekend and on coming ki4y3C3s3Po-01392-00359670-00359951 so this weekend at Wichita theater they ki4y3C3s3Po-01393-00359952-00360154 have clue the musical it wraps up this ki4y3C3s3Po-01394-00360155-00360280 weekend ki4y3C3s3Po-01395-00360281-00360587 um they have Aristocats that is a kids ki4y3C3s3Po-01396-00360588-00360725 show that's going to be Saturday ki4y3C3s3Po-01397-00360726-00360934 November 12th ki4y3C3s3Po-01398-00360935-00361193 um that's gonna be an adorable show and ki4y3C3s3Po-01399-00361194-00361373 the kids shows are usually pretty cheap ki4y3C3s3Po-01400-00361374-00361601 I think like five ten dollars I don't ki4y3C3s3Po-01401-00361602-00361756 remember exactly ki4y3C3s3Po-01402-00361757-00361930 um they have a Christmas Story coming up ki4y3C3s3Po-01403-00361931-00362171 starting next weekend ki4y3C3s3Po-01404-00362172-00362530 um a tuna christmas is gonna be at stage ki4y3C3s3Po-01405-00362531-00362663 two ki4y3C3s3Po-01406-00362664-00362903 um starting November 25th um backdoor ki4y3C3s3Po-01407-00362904-00363089 theater is also putting on Best ki4y3C3s3Po-01408-00363090-00363353 Christmas Pageant Ever and that opens ki4y3C3s3Po-01409-00363354-00363563 next weekend November 18th and runs ki4y3C3s3Po-01410-00363564-00363808 through December 10th they also have a ki4y3C3s3Po-01411-00363809-00364067 pay what you can performance that may ki4y3C3s3Po-01412-00364068-00364384 very much interest some of your students ki4y3C3s3Po-01413-00364385-00364558 um it's a first come first serve that's ki4y3C3s3Po-01414-00364559-00364978 going to be on 11 27 and uh you have ki4y3C3s3Po-01415-00364979-00365153 have to order online to reserve your ki4y3C3s3Po-01416-00365154-00365369 seats so if you really want to see that ki4y3C3s3Po-01417-00365370-00365734 show and you're very strapped on cash ki4y3C3s3Po-01418-00365735-00365987 definitely check them out for that pay ki4y3C3s3Po-01419-00365988-00366413 what you can perform it's on 11 27. ki4y3C3s3Po-01420-00366414-00366521 cool ki4y3C3s3Po-01421-00366522-00366832 very cool all right sounds good to hear ki4y3C3s3Po-01422-00366833-00367078 well Kevin we're we very much appreciate ki4y3C3s3Po-01423-00367079-00367360 you uh coming in and joining us and and ki4y3C3s3Po-01424-00367361-00367606 talking with us I know that we ramble ki4y3C3s3Po-01425-00367607-00367813 sometimes especially me ki4y3C3s3Po-01426-00367814-00368093 but we'd love to have you on anytime in ki4y3C3s3Po-01427-00368094-00368303 the future whenever anything is going on ki4y3C3s3Po-01428-00368304-00368560 just uh shoot us a line and let us know ki4y3C3s3Po-01429-00368561-00368741 I appreciate it thank you guys for ki4y3C3s3Po-01430-00368742-00368951 inviting me I very much enjoyed this ki4y3C3s3Po-01431-00368952-00369095 good ki4y3C3s3Po-01432-00369096-00369353 all right well from all of us here at ki4y3C3s3Po-01433-00369354-00369551 Moffett Library uh thank you very much ki4y3C3s3Po-01434-00369552-00369778 for listening and we will catch you on 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