i-lfIDdVYSk-00000-00001208-00001431 i acknowledge the gadagal people the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00001-00001432-00001655 traditional owners of this land on which
i-lfIDdVYSk-00002-00001655-00001782 we meet today
i-lfIDdVYSk-00003-00001784-00001934 and the waters of the harbour that
i-lfIDdVYSk-00004-00001935-00002239 surround us and connect us to the world
i-lfIDdVYSk-00005-00002240-00002375 i acknowledge and thank the many
i-lfIDdVYSk-00006-00002376-00002583 indigenous service men and women who
i-lfIDdVYSk-00007-00002584-00002767 have served and continue to serve the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00008-00002768-00002942 australian defence force in times of
i-lfIDdVYSk-00009-00002943-00003231 peace and war
i-lfIDdVYSk-00010-00003232-00003415 we welcome the representatives from more
i-lfIDdVYSk-00011-00003415-00003638 than 50
i-lfIDdVYSk-00012-00003639-00003886 over 40 nations this week we are
i-lfIDdVYSk-00013-00003887-00004038 traveling to be here
i-lfIDdVYSk-00014-00004039-00004254 in the state of a global pandemic this
i-lfIDdVYSk-00015-00004255-00004470 is not to be underestimated
i-lfIDdVYSk-00016-00004471-00004647 thank you for giving your time and
i-lfIDdVYSk-00017-00004648-00004799 investing in our international
i-lfIDdVYSk-00018-00004800-00004983 relationships
i-lfIDdVYSk-00019-00004984-00005167 to the domestic australian delegates and
i-lfIDdVYSk-00020-00005168-00005367 the over 650
i-lfIDdVYSk-00021-00005368-00005631 industry exhibitors in the floor below
i-lfIDdVYSk-00022-00005632-00005847 thank you for your contributions and
i-lfIDdVYSk-00023-00005848-00006054 enriching the experience
i-lfIDdVYSk-00024-00006055-00006254 the diversity and richness of conference
i-lfIDdVYSk-00025-00006255-00006503 delegates in sydney this week is a
i-lfIDdVYSk-00026-00006504-00006775 navigation head mark that i think people
i-lfIDdVYSk-00027-00006776-00007023 watching in the room and online should
i-lfIDdVYSk-00028-00007023-00007175 keep in mind as we navigate through
i-lfIDdVYSk-00029-00007176-00007351 today's conference
i-lfIDdVYSk-00030-00007352-00007519 and then you engage more broadly across
i-lfIDdVYSk-00031-00007520-00007814 the week's activities
i-lfIDdVYSk-00032-00007815-00008055 collectively all of us here no matter
i-lfIDdVYSk-00033-00008056-00008303 the rank or role underpin and build our
i-lfIDdVYSk-00034-00008304-00008471 relationships
i-lfIDdVYSk-00035-00008472-00008639 this reflects in the investment of our
i-lfIDdVYSk-00036-00008640-00008807 organisation's time
i-lfIDdVYSk-00037-00008808-00009031 the resources and the opportunity cost
i-lfIDdVYSk-00038-00009032-00009263 decisions to attend
i-lfIDdVYSk-00039-00009264-00009535 this is naval diplomacy in action
i-lfIDdVYSk-00040-00009536-00009719 it is building trust
i-lfIDdVYSk-00041-00009720-00009910 building connections
i-lfIDdVYSk-00042-00009911-00010078 and building ideas
i-lfIDdVYSk-00043-00010079-00010351 no matter our geography our technology
i-lfIDdVYSk-00044-00010352-00010559 and our environment people remain the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00045-00010560-00010742 fundamental building block of our
i-lfIDdVYSk-00046-00010743-00010910 relationships and the trust that we
i-lfIDdVYSk-00047-00010911-00011110 build
i-lfIDdVYSk-00048-00011111-00011310 carl sagan in his quest to understand
i-lfIDdVYSk-00049-00011311-00011446 the universe once stated that you have
i-lfIDdVYSk-00050-00011447-00011599 to know the past to understand the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00051-00011600-00011710 future
i-lfIDdVYSk-00052-00011711-00011863 and the present
i-lfIDdVYSk-00053-00011864-00012063 now given the two major themes running
i-lfIDdVYSk-00054-00012064-00012183 this week
i-lfIDdVYSk-00055-00012184-00012406 the maritime domain in the 21st century
i-lfIDdVYSk-00056-00012407-00012583 a commonality of purpose
i-lfIDdVYSk-00057-00012584-00012871 and today's conference kakadu then and
i-lfIDdVYSk-00058-00012872-00013175 now confidence cooperation and capable
i-lfIDdVYSk-00059-00013176-00013327 i think it's worth going back in time
i-lfIDdVYSk-00060-00013328-00013630 for a brief recap
i-lfIDdVYSk-00061-00013631-00013822 historically the royal australian navy
i-lfIDdVYSk-00062-00013823-00013951 has engaged in a number of fleet
i-lfIDdVYSk-00063-00013952-00014103 concentration periods to sharpen the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00064-00014104-00014271 collective warfighting capabilities of
i-lfIDdVYSk-00065-00014272-00014479 the fleet at sea and the larger defence
i-lfIDdVYSk-00066-00014480-00014703 organisation that supports it
i-lfIDdVYSk-00067-00014704-00014919 but in 1993 a decision was taken to
i-lfIDdVYSk-00068-00014919-00015222 expand the scope of the fcp and create
i-lfIDdVYSk-00069-00015223-00015415 exercise kakadu
i-lfIDdVYSk-00070-00015416-00015599 so while the conference will take you
i-lfIDdVYSk-00071-00015600-00015830 over the last 30 years i thought just as
i-lfIDdVYSk-00072-00015831-00016071 the martial ceremonies it's worth going
i-lfIDdVYSk-00073-00016072-00016350 back just to look at 1993.
i-lfIDdVYSk-00074-00016351-00016575 my initial thoughts were
i-lfIDdVYSk-00075-00016576-00016767 wouldn't have been much going on
i-lfIDdVYSk-00076-00016768-00016919 but it shows you that history has a way
i-lfIDdVYSk-00077-00016920-00017111 of repeating and the complexities of the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00078-00017112-00017255 time so
i-lfIDdVYSk-00079-00017256-00017399 i'll take you on a snapshot through
i-lfIDdVYSk-00080-00017400-00017599 1993.
i-lfIDdVYSk-00081-00017600-00017775 the world is now a few years past the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00082-00017776-00017927 collapse of the soviet union and the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00083-00017928-00018135 reunification of germany
i-lfIDdVYSk-00084-00018136-00018319 europe has created a single european
i-lfIDdVYSk-00085-00018320-00018439 market
i-lfIDdVYSk-00086-00018440-00018750 czechoslovakia divides into two nations
i-lfIDdVYSk-00087-00018751-00019063 a civil war is being fought in bosnia
i-lfIDdVYSk-00088-00019064-00019286 the yitzhak rabin and yasa arafat have
i-lfIDdVYSk-00089-00019287-00019439 signed the peace agreement on the white
i-lfIDdVYSk-00090-00019440-00019614 house lawns
i-lfIDdVYSk-00091-00019615-00019775 the us and russian presidents have
i-lfIDdVYSk-00092-00019776-00020014 signed the strategic arms reduction
i-lfIDdVYSk-00093-00020015-00020167 treaty too
i-lfIDdVYSk-00094-00020168-00020327 but later that year
i-lfIDdVYSk-00095-00020328-00020511 russia suffers a constitutional crisis
i-lfIDdVYSk-00096-00020512-00020703 and president yeltsin is using force
i-lfIDdVYSk-00097-00020704-00020999 against his own parliament
i-lfIDdVYSk-00098-00021000-00021222 to question uprising the world trade
i-lfIDdVYSk-00099-00021223-00021358 center in new york was bombed in a
i-lfIDdVYSk-00100-00021359-00021550 terrorist attack and the president of
i-lfIDdVYSk-00101-00021551-00021703 sri lanka was killed in a suicide
i-lfIDdVYSk-00102-00021704-00021894 bombing
i-lfIDdVYSk-00103-00021895-00022191 the u.s fought the battle of mogadishu
i-lfIDdVYSk-00104-00022192-00022391 china performed the nuclear test ending
i-lfIDdVYSk-00105-00022392-00022575 a de facto worldwide moratorium on
i-lfIDdVYSk-00106-00022576-00022694 testing
i-lfIDdVYSk-00107-00022695-00022919 north korea announced plans to withdraw
i-lfIDdVYSk-00108-00022920-00023158 from the nuclear nonproliferation treaty
i-lfIDdVYSk-00109-00023159-00023367 and south africa officially abandoned
i-lfIDdVYSk-00110-00023368-00023583 its nuclear weapons program
i-lfIDdVYSk-00111-00023584-00023735 at the same time the south african
i-lfIDdVYSk-00112-00023736-00023991 leaders mandela and de clerk received
i-lfIDdVYSk-00113-00023992-00024183 the noble peace prize for their efforts
i-lfIDdVYSk-00114-00024184-00024407 in ending apartheid
i-lfIDdVYSk-00115-00024408-00024639 devastating tsunamis had hit japan
i-lfIDdVYSk-00116-00024640-00024830 earthquakes in india and indonesia had
i-lfIDdVYSk-00117-00024831-00025055 killed tens of thousands
i-lfIDdVYSk-00118-00025056-00025191 australia had suffered the worst
i-lfIDdVYSk-00119-00025192-00025591 bushfires in its history at that time
i-lfIDdVYSk-00120-00025592-00025743 national interest rates were around five
i-lfIDdVYSk-00121-00025744-00025934 to six percent most inflation was
i-lfIDdVYSk-00122-00025935-00026262 running between 2.4 to 4
i-lfIDdVYSk-00123-00026263-00026470 in the tech world the pentium processor
i-lfIDdVYSk-00124-00026472-00026614 was being introduced
i-lfIDdVYSk-00125-00026616-00026902 windows 3.1 had been released the world
i-lfIDdVYSk-00126-00026904-00027151 wide web was born and the hubble
i-lfIDdVYSk-00127-00027152-00027462 telescope was being repaired
i-lfIDdVYSk-00128-00027463-00027670 so when you reflect on the geopolitics
i-lfIDdVYSk-00129-00027672-00027943 of the top natural disasters of the time
i-lfIDdVYSk-00130-00027944-00028167 and contrast them with today
i-lfIDdVYSk-00131-00028168-00028414 this was an initiative of kakadu driven
i-lfIDdVYSk-00132-00028416-00028702 in a spirit of constructive diplomacy
i-lfIDdVYSk-00133-00028704-00028879 with a genuine need to develop naval
i-lfIDdVYSk-00134-00028880-00029039 forces capable of cooperating and
i-lfIDdVYSk-00135-00029039-00029239 responding to our respective national
i-lfIDdVYSk-00136-00029239-00029383 needs
i-lfIDdVYSk-00137-00029383-00029655 as they did in 93 and still do today
i-lfIDdVYSk-00138-00029656-00029823 our navies are called on by governments
i-lfIDdVYSk-00139-00029824-00030007 to provide options across the span of
i-lfIDdVYSk-00140-00030008-00030239 traditional maritime tasks be they wall
i-lfIDdVYSk-00141-00030239-00030535 fighting constabulary security
i-lfIDdVYSk-00142-00030536-00030807 humanitarian or disaster related the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00143-00030808-00030999 need for effective naval diplomacy and
i-lfIDdVYSk-00144-00031000-00031223 our collective relationships is an
i-lfIDdVYSk-00145-00031224-00031431 enduring one
i-lfIDdVYSk-00146-00031432-00031614 so today we're running four compelling
i-lfIDdVYSk-00147-00031616-00031790 sessions with diverse international
i-lfIDdVYSk-00148-00031791-00031943 representation and each with a
i-lfIDdVYSk-00149-00031944-00032135 distinguished keynote speaker and
i-lfIDdVYSk-00150-00032136-00032231 there'll be question and answer
i-lfIDdVYSk-00151-00032232-00032446 components to all
i-lfIDdVYSk-00152-00032447-00032607 so first i would like to introduce the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00153-00032608-00033095 chair of today's uh this morning's panel
i-lfIDdVYSk-00154-00033096-00033359 professor peter dean
i-lfIDdVYSk-00155-00033360-00033479 professor dean is the director of
i-lfIDdVYSk-00156-00033480-00033607 defense and security institute of
i-lfIDdVYSk-00157-00033608-00033751 western australia
i-lfIDdVYSk-00158-00033752-00033918 of university of western australia he's
i-lfIDdVYSk-00159-00033919-00034071 an extensive background in military and
i-lfIDdVYSk-00160-00034072-00034231 defence studies he has been the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00161-00034232-00034431 fulbright fellow and endeavour research
i-lfIDdVYSk-00162-00034432-00034583 scholar in australia united states
i-lfIDdVYSk-00163-00034584-00034718 alliance studies
i-lfIDdVYSk-00164-00034719-00034871 as well as non-resident fellow with the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00165-00034872-00035007 centre for strategic and international
i-lfIDdVYSk-00166-00035008-00035151 studies
i-lfIDdVYSk-00167-00035152-00035318 before joining the university of western
i-lfIDdVYSk-00168-00035319-00035455 australia he was a scholar at the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00169-00035456-00035646 strategic and defence studies center in
i-lfIDdVYSk-00170-00035647-00035807 in australia's australian national
i-lfIDdVYSk-00171-00035808-00035967 university
i-lfIDdVYSk-00172-00035968-00036111 college of asia and the pacific where
i-lfIDdVYSk-00173-00036112-00036407 he's held numerous positions
i-lfIDdVYSk-00174-00036408-00036543 he was appointed at the university of
i-lfIDdVYSk-00175-00036544-00036662 western australia's first chair of
i-lfIDdVYSk-00176-00036663-00036855 defence studies in july 2020 and the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00177-00036856-00037039 inaugural director of the university of
i-lfIDdVYSk-00178-00037040-00037190 western australia's defence and security
i-lfIDdVYSk-00179-00037191-00037407 institute in march of 21.
i-lfIDdVYSk-00180-00037408-00037599 he's a senior fellow at the perth usa
i-lfIDdVYSk-00181-00037600-00037767 asia center and a visiting fellow of the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00182-00037768-00037974 strategic defense and strategic study
i-lfIDdVYSk-00183-00037975-00038230 centre anu
i-lfIDdVYSk-00184-00038231-00038695 so peter the floor is yours
i-lfIDdVYSk-00185-00038696-00038887 thank you everyone
i-lfIDdVYSk-00186-00038888-00039079 and it's just my pleasure to do just a
i-lfIDdVYSk-00187-00039080-00039283 very brief welcome
i-lfIDdVYSk-00188-00039284-00039383 before and
i-lfIDdVYSk-00189-00039384-00039535 over to our keynote speaker for this
i-lfIDdVYSk-00190-00039536-00039702 morning i think we're going to have some
i-lfIDdVYSk-00191-00039703-00039871 great panel sessions here today and what
i-lfIDdVYSk-00192-00039872-00040023 we're going to get is a mix of history
i-lfIDdVYSk-00193-00040024-00040190 international relations and of course a
i-lfIDdVYSk-00194-00040191-00040462 focus on naval diplomacy
i-lfIDdVYSk-00195-00040463-00040607 my view is that our objective for the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00196-00040608-00040815 day is to think big about naval
i-lfIDdVYSk-00197-00040816-00041111 diplomacy and multilateral exercises
i-lfIDdVYSk-00198-00041112-00041239 in an area in which the australian
i-lfIDdVYSk-00199-00041240-00041439 defense force has a role to shape our
i-lfIDdVYSk-00200-00041440-00041695 region in an area of flux of change and
i-lfIDdVYSk-00201-00041696-00041879 international competition this has never
i-lfIDdVYSk-00202-00041880-00042079 been more important
i-lfIDdVYSk-00203-00042080-00042351 exercises such as kakadu can also take
i-lfIDdVYSk-00204-00042352-00042599 on a deterrence role in an era where
i-lfIDdVYSk-00205-00042600-00042815 shaping deterring and responding can at
i-lfIDdVYSk-00206-00042816-00043102 times all merge together i believe there
i-lfIDdVYSk-00207-00043103-00043295 is a renewed interest in understanding
i-lfIDdVYSk-00208-00043296-00043479 measuring and assessing the role of
i-lfIDdVYSk-00209-00043480-00043687 multilateral naval exercises in our
i-lfIDdVYSk-00210-00043688-00043830 region
i-lfIDdVYSk-00211-00043831-00043958 of course the question i am going to
i-lfIDdVYSk-00212-00043959-00044135 leave you with today to think about as
i-lfIDdVYSk-00213-00044136-00044295 we start off and before we hand over to
i-lfIDdVYSk-00214-00044296-00044502 our keynote speaker comes back to that
i-lfIDdVYSk-00215-00044503-00044655 overall conference thing that andrew
i-lfIDdVYSk-00216-00044656-00044879 mentioned of a commonality of purpose
i-lfIDdVYSk-00217-00044880-00045030 i think what we should be doing today is
i-lfIDdVYSk-00218-00045031-00045183 keeping that in mind is what role do
i-lfIDdVYSk-00219-00045184-00045383 these exercises and more broadly
i-lfIDdVYSk-00220-00045384-00045646 multilateral naval exercises throughout
i-lfIDdVYSk-00221-00045647-00045895 the southeast asian uh region provide in
i-lfIDdVYSk-00222-00045896-00046174 terms of providing a commonality purpose
i-lfIDdVYSk-00223-00046175-00046358 for the navies in the region and for
i-lfIDdVYSk-00224-00046359-00046518 maintaining a rules-based international
i-lfIDdVYSk-00225-00046519-00046727 order and stability and peace in our
i-lfIDdVYSk-00226-00046728-00046823 region
i-lfIDdVYSk-00227-00046824-00046943 so i'm going to leave it there as my
i-lfIDdVYSk-00228-00046944-00047151 introductory remarks and we'll hand over
i-lfIDdVYSk-00229-00047152-00047527 to the keynote speaker this morning
i-lfIDdVYSk-00230-00047528-00047735 so i'd like to invite rear admiral
i-lfIDdVYSk-00231-00047736-00047839 justin jones
i-lfIDdVYSk-00232-00047840-00048102 to the stage to give us the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00233-00048103-00048295 keynote address this morning admiral
i-lfIDdVYSk-00234-00048296-00048486 jones joined the royal australian navy
i-lfIDdVYSk-00235-00048487-00048799 in 1988 a principal warfare officer with
i-lfIDdVYSk-00236-00048800-00049039 a dual specialisation in surface warfare
i-lfIDdVYSk-00237-00049040-00049279 and advanced navigation he has served in
i-lfIDdVYSk-00238-00049280-00049471 more than a dozen ran warships
i-lfIDdVYSk-00239-00049472-00049646 accumulating a vast amount of sea time
i-lfIDdVYSk-00240-00049647-00049799 during numerous deployments through the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00241-00049800-00050039 indo-pacific and extensive engagement
i-lfIDdVYSk-00242-00050040-00050174 around the world
i-lfIDdVYSk-00243-00050175-00050327 his commands have included the guided
i-lfIDdVYSk-00244-00050328-00050567 missile frigate hmos newcastle the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00245-00050568-00050823 combat support ship hmas success which
i-lfIDdVYSk-00246-00050824-00050974 deployed to the middle east and
i-lfIDdVYSk-00247-00050975-00051151 northwest indian nation on operation
i-lfIDdVYSk-00248-00051152-00051319 manager
i-lfIDdVYSk-00249-00051320-00051487 readmill jones has fulfilled various
i-lfIDdVYSk-00250-00051488-00051663 roles ashore encompassing training
i-lfIDdVYSk-00251-00051664-00051870 operations experimentation and force
i-lfIDdVYSk-00252-00051871-00052111 structure most recently he's completed
i-lfIDdVYSk-00253-00052112-00052311 two years as director general operations
i-lfIDdVYSk-00254-00052312-00052575 at headquarters joint operations command
i-lfIDdVYSk-00255-00052576-00052719 in this role he is responsible for the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00256-00052720-00052894 chief of joint operations for planning
i-lfIDdVYSk-00257-00052895-00053103 integration control
i-lfIDdVYSk-00258-00053104-00053247 of the australian defence force
i-lfIDdVYSk-00259-00053248-00053463 operations
i-lfIDdVYSk-00260-00053464-00053599 he's a graduate of the royal australian
i-lfIDdVYSk-00261-00053600-00053799 navy college and the australian command
i-lfIDdVYSk-00262-00053800-00054007 and staff college holds a master's of
i-lfIDdVYSk-00263-00054008-00054263 management studies a master of arts and
i-lfIDdVYSk-00264-00054264-00054503 a graduate diploma in defense studies
i-lfIDdVYSk-00265-00054504-00054719 he is currently serving as the royal
i-lfIDdVYSk-00266-00054720-00054863 australian navy commander for the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00267-00054864-00055119 operation sovereign borders joint agency
i-lfIDdVYSk-00268-00055120-00055959 task force admiral jones
i-lfIDdVYSk-00269-00055960-00056319 thanks andrew and good morning everyone
i-lfIDdVYSk-00270-00056320-00056423 uh
i-lfIDdVYSk-00271-00056424-00056823 i went back to 1993 in fact walk through
i-lfIDdVYSk-00272-00056824-00056919 the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00273-00056920-00057159 history of exercise kakadu seen through
i-lfIDdVYSk-00274-00057160-00057294 australian eyes
i-lfIDdVYSk-00275-00057295-00057519 and in many cases through my own eyes
i-lfIDdVYSk-00276-00057520-00057919 and experiences with with the exercise
i-lfIDdVYSk-00277-00057920-00058207 so the concept of a kakadu series of
i-lfIDdVYSk-00278-00058208-00058454 fleet concentration periods was first
i-lfIDdVYSk-00279-00058455-00058742 raised in 1991
i-lfIDdVYSk-00280-00058744-00058919 and discussed with representatives of
i-lfIDdVYSk-00281-00058920-00059175 potential participating nations
i-lfIDdVYSk-00282-00059176-00059350 during a maritime headquarters
i-lfIDdVYSk-00283-00059351-00059542 operational planning tour
i-lfIDdVYSk-00284-00059544-00059991 of southeast asia in early 1992
i-lfIDdVYSk-00285-00059991-00060159 this was reflective of the government's
i-lfIDdVYSk-00286-00060160-00060399 imperative to improve relations with
i-lfIDdVYSk-00287-00060400-00060647 southeast asian nations
i-lfIDdVYSk-00288-00060648-00060919 indeed while the strategic review of
i-lfIDdVYSk-00289-00060920-00061263 1993 reinforced the defense of australia
i-lfIDdVYSk-00290-00061264-00061535 doctrine being self-reliance
i-lfIDdVYSk-00291-00061536-00061750 it also placed a higher degree of
i-lfIDdVYSk-00292-00061751-00061975 importance on supporting broader
i-lfIDdVYSk-00293-00061976-00062159 regional engagement
i-lfIDdVYSk-00294-00062160-00062535 and australia's strategic alliances
i-lfIDdVYSk-00295-00062536-00062926 overall the strategic review of 1993
i-lfIDdVYSk-00296-00062927-00063159 assessed that australia's main strategic
i-lfIDdVYSk-00297-00063160-00063423 focus should be pursued through greater
i-lfIDdVYSk-00298-00063424-00063879 engagement in the asia pacific region
i-lfIDdVYSk-00299-00063879-00064142 the gulf war and continuing operations
i-lfIDdVYSk-00300-00064144-00064287 in the middle east and australia's
i-lfIDdVYSk-00301-00064288-00064471 contributions to those
i-lfIDdVYSk-00302-00064472-00064703 had illustrated the importance of
i-lfIDdVYSk-00303-00064704-00064926 interoperability between multinational
i-lfIDdVYSk-00304-00064927-00065054 partners
i-lfIDdVYSk-00305-00065055-00065223 and would be further exemplified
i-lfIDdVYSk-00306-00065224-00065503 throughout the 1990s with operations in
i-lfIDdVYSk-00307-00065504-00065631 somalia
i-lfIDdVYSk-00308-00065632-00065759 bougainville
i-lfIDdVYSk-00309-00065760-00065882 and east
i-lfIDdVYSk-00310-00065883-00066255 timor kakadu was one of a number of
i-lfIDdVYSk-00311-00066256-00066382 initiatives
i-lfIDdVYSk-00312-00066383-00066559 such as the western pacific naval
i-lfIDdVYSk-00313-00066560-00066863 symposium aimed at increasing regional
i-lfIDdVYSk-00314-00066864-00067079 cooperation
i-lfIDdVYSk-00315-00067080-00067263 now andrew has given us a great overview
i-lfIDdVYSk-00316-00067264-00067471 of all the things that were going on in
i-lfIDdVYSk-00317-00067472-00067663 1993.
i-lfIDdVYSk-00318-00067664-00067994 exercise kakadu 1 was conducted in may
i-lfIDdVYSk-00319-00067995-00068350 1993. it involved 15 ships and
i-lfIDdVYSk-00320-00068351-00068606 submarines those being the oberon class
i-lfIDdVYSk-00321-00068607-00068735 submarines
i-lfIDdVYSk-00322-00068736-00069071 and 2 000 personnel from australia
i-lfIDdVYSk-00323-00069072-00069255 new zealand
i-lfIDdVYSk-00324-00069256-00069391 malaysia
i-lfIDdVYSk-00325-00069392-00069526 thailand
i-lfIDdVYSk-00326-00069527-00069663 singapore
i-lfIDdVYSk-00327-00069664-00069806 and hong kong
i-lfIDdVYSk-00328-00069807-00070023 which was the uk
i-lfIDdVYSk-00329-00070024-00070167 it was actually
i-lfIDdVYSk-00330-00070168-00070359 correctly titled fleet concentration
i-lfIDdVYSk-00331-00070360-00070703 period kakadu one
i-lfIDdVYSk-00332-00070704-00070863 observers from indonesia and the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00333-00070864-00071150 philippines also attended
i-lfIDdVYSk-00334-00071151-00071319 now i was a sub lieutenant officer the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00335-00071320-00071567 watch in hmas hobart at the time and
i-lfIDdVYSk-00336-00071568-00071694 hobart was
i-lfIDdVYSk-00337-00071695-00071894 the commander task group for this
i-lfIDdVYSk-00338-00071895-00072087 activity
i-lfIDdVYSk-00339-00072088-00072262 i'm not going to suggest that i recall a
i-lfIDdVYSk-00340-00072263-00072567 lot about the activity at the time
i-lfIDdVYSk-00341-00072568-00072719 it also included
i-lfIDdVYSk-00342-00072720-00072911 electronic warfare aircraft
i-lfIDdVYSk-00343-00072912-00073150 anti-submarine warfare helicopters
i-lfIDdVYSk-00344-00073151-00073423 fighters maritime patrol aircraft from
i-lfIDdVYSk-00345-00073424-00073535 australia
i-lfIDdVYSk-00346-00073536-00073775 new zealand and singapore the royal
i-lfIDdVYSk-00347-00073776-00073982 australian artillery air defense battery
i-lfIDdVYSk-00348-00073983-00074319 was embarked in hmas swan
i-lfIDdVYSk-00349-00074320-00074582 and the royal australian navy and
i-lfIDdVYSk-00350-00074583-00074767 royal malaysian navy contributed
i-lfIDdVYSk-00351-00074768-00075023 clearance divers
i-lfIDdVYSk-00352-00075024-00075303 it was the first exercise to focus on
i-lfIDdVYSk-00353-00075304-00075487 regional cooperation
i-lfIDdVYSk-00354-00075488-00075743 rather than specifically the defense of
i-lfIDdVYSk-00355-00075744-00075862 australia
i-lfIDdVYSk-00356-00075863-00076087 and sought to build stronger naval and
i-lfIDdVYSk-00357-00076088-00076294 military links in the asia pacific
i-lfIDdVYSk-00358-00076295-00076415 region
i-lfIDdVYSk-00359-00076416-00076671 some of you might recall the kangaroo
i-lfIDdVYSk-00360-00076672-00076950 series albeit that was a joint exercise
i-lfIDdVYSk-00361-00076951-00077262 series
i-lfIDdVYSk-00362-00077263-00077526 that included exercises as we're all
i-lfIDdVYSk-00363-00077527-00077750 familiar with damage control
i-lfIDdVYSk-00364-00077751-00077967 communications procedures
i-lfIDdVYSk-00365-00077968-00078247 interoperability between air surface and
i-lfIDdVYSk-00366-00078248-00078503 submarine assets mine warfare
i-lfIDdVYSk-00367-00078504-00078847 and eod
i-lfIDdVYSk-00368-00078848-00079279 kakadu ii was held in march 1995.
i-lfIDdVYSk-00369-00079280-00079591 it was twice as large as kakadu one and
i-lfIDdVYSk-00370-00079592-00079838 involved 22 ships
i-lfIDdVYSk-00371-00079839-00080126 two submarines five thousand personnel
i-lfIDdVYSk-00372-00080127-00080479 from australia new zealand singapore
i-lfIDdVYSk-00373-00080480-00080606 malaysia
i-lfIDdVYSk-00374-00080607-00080919 indonesia and once again hong kong
i-lfIDdVYSk-00375-00080920-00081055 and thailand
i-lfIDdVYSk-00376-00081056-00081294 it also included observers from the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00377-00081295-00081462 philippines
i-lfIDdVYSk-00378-00081463-00081567 again
i-lfIDdVYSk-00379-00081568-00081806 the exercise was designed to increase
i-lfIDdVYSk-00380-00081807-00081991 interoperability and regional
i-lfIDdVYSk-00381-00081992-00082191 understanding
i-lfIDdVYSk-00382-00082192-00082382 the then maritime commander australia
i-lfIDdVYSk-00383-00082383-00082591 rear admiral don chalmers who went on to
i-lfIDdVYSk-00384-00082592-00082750 be chief of navy
i-lfIDdVYSk-00385-00082751-00082950 set out how kakadu contributed to
i-lfIDdVYSk-00386-00082951-00083262 regional security
i-lfIDdVYSk-00387-00083263-00083543 he said kakadu is firmly in keeping with
i-lfIDdVYSk-00388-00083544-00083775 australia's foreign policy
i-lfIDdVYSk-00389-00083776-00084031 in particular that element of policy
i-lfIDdVYSk-00390-00084032-00084271 which seeks through regional engagement
i-lfIDdVYSk-00391-00084272-00084487 to have australia contribute to viable
i-lfIDdVYSk-00392-00084488-00084759 forms of cooperative security based on
i-lfIDdVYSk-00393-00084760-00084975 relationships which reflect a greater
i-lfIDdVYSk-00394-00084976-00085287 sense of genuine partnership
i-lfIDdVYSk-00395-00085288-00085526 he went on to say that at kakadu
i-lfIDdVYSk-00396-00085527-00085679 there has been a blossoming of
i-lfIDdVYSk-00397-00085680-00085831 acquaintances
i-lfIDdVYSk-00398-00085832-00086118 an exchange of information procedures
i-lfIDdVYSk-00399-00086119-00086271 and ideas
i-lfIDdVYSk-00400-00086272-00086487 we have developed our ability to
i-lfIDdVYSk-00401-00086488-00086903 cooperate at sea
i-lfIDdVYSk-00402-00086904-00087226 kakadu exercises in 1997
i-lfIDdVYSk-00403-00087227-00087743 1999 and 2001 were comparable in size
i-lfIDdVYSk-00404-00087744-00088015 but the early 2000s saw a rapid decline
i-lfIDdVYSk-00405-00088016-00088343 in participation post 911
i-lfIDdVYSk-00406-00088344-00088526 and our regional partners became more
i-lfIDdVYSk-00407-00088527-00088806 concerned with its internal security and
i-lfIDdVYSk-00408-00088807-00088982 indeed australia and we were quite
i-lfIDdVYSk-00409-00088983-00089182 wrapped up in operations continuing
i-lfIDdVYSk-00410-00089183-00089559 operations in the middle east
i-lfIDdVYSk-00411-00089560-00089918 i participated in kakadu 1999 serving as
i-lfIDdVYSk-00412-00089919-00090287 navigating officer in hmas arunta
i-lfIDdVYSk-00413-00090288-00090703 kakadu 99 provided a number of firsts
i-lfIDdVYSk-00414-00090704-00090943 these included the first time north
i-lfIDdVYSk-00415-00090944-00091287 asian navies were invited to participate
i-lfIDdVYSk-00416-00091288-00091511 previous years involved only southeast
i-lfIDdVYSk-00417-00091512-00091711 asian navies
i-lfIDdVYSk-00418-00091712-00091950 the first full participation of the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00419-00091951-00092126 philippine navy
i-lfIDdVYSk-00420-00092127-00092482 with brp bacalod city and brp
i-lfIDdVYSk-00421-00092483-00092671 riccate
i-lfIDdVYSk-00422-00092672-00092967 the first participation of then
i-lfIDdVYSk-00423-00092968-00093199 australian defense maritime services
i-lfIDdVYSk-00424-00093200-00093415 with their 2000 ton
i-lfIDdVYSk-00425-00093416-00093743 mv seahorse standard which was used as a
i-lfIDdVYSk-00426-00093744-00093982 target towing vessel during the live
i-lfIDdVYSk-00427-00093983-00094079 firing
i-lfIDdVYSk-00428-00094080-00094374 components of the activity
i-lfIDdVYSk-00429-00094375-00094582 and it was the first participation of
i-lfIDdVYSk-00430-00094583-00094831 two collins class submarines
i-lfIDdVYSk-00431-00094832-00095399 hma ships farncum and walla
i-lfIDdVYSk-00432-00095400-00095606 i recall clearly my own experiences
i-lfIDdVYSk-00433-00095607-00095935 during kakadu 1999 firstly
i-lfIDdVYSk-00434-00095936-00096103 during the initial entry in anchorage
i-lfIDdVYSk-00435-00096104-00096294 into darwin of a great many
i-lfIDdVYSk-00436-00096295-00096494 participating units
i-lfIDdVYSk-00437-00096495-00096671 i offered to transfer across to the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00438-00096672-00097079 indonesian unit kri fatihilla to assist
i-lfIDdVYSk-00439-00097080-00097335 in their pilotage and anchorage in very
i-lfIDdVYSk-00440-00097336-00097543 unfamiliar surrounds and some
i-lfIDdVYSk-00441-00097544-00097750 significant title streams as anyone who
i-lfIDdVYSk-00442-00097751-00098082 has operated in darwin will recall
i-lfIDdVYSk-00443-00098083-00098382 secondly i was asked to swap with the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00444-00098383-00098662 navigating officer in hmas anzac for two
i-lfIDdVYSk-00445-00098663-00098759 days
i-lfIDdVYSk-00446-00098760-00098959 at the very start of the activity in
i-lfIDdVYSk-00447-00098960-00099111 order to assist the new commanding
i-lfIDdVYSk-00448-00099112-00099462 officer with anzac class ship handling
i-lfIDdVYSk-00449-00099463-00099679 that co in question was then captain
i-lfIDdVYSk-00450-00099680-00100015 matt tripovic
i-lfIDdVYSk-00451-00100016-00100382 moving on kakadu 2003 involved 2 000
i-lfIDdVYSk-00452-00100383-00100655 personnel from five nations
i-lfIDdVYSk-00453-00100656-00101031 kakadu 2005 involved seventeen hundred
i-lfIDdVYSk-00454-00101032-00101303 personnel from twelve nations
i-lfIDdVYSk-00455-00101304-00101559 many of which however only attended as
i-lfIDdVYSk-00456-00101560-00101838 observers
i-lfIDdVYSk-00457-00101839-00102215 kakadu eight in 2007 represented a
i-lfIDdVYSk-00458-00102216-00102374 change in format
i-lfIDdVYSk-00459-00102375-00102534 compromising
i-lfIDdVYSk-00460-00102535-00102663 compromising
i-lfIDdVYSk-00461-00102664-00102894 a seminar for delegations from regional
i-lfIDdVYSk-00462-00102895-00103102 navies and discussions on maritime
i-lfIDdVYSk-00463-00103103-00103302 security issues
i-lfIDdVYSk-00464-00103303-00103502 once again i was quite close to this i
i-lfIDdVYSk-00465-00103503-00103647 was command of plans in fleet
i-lfIDdVYSk-00466-00103648-00103942 headquarters in 2006 and seven
i-lfIDdVYSk-00467-00103943-00104310 and there was a reason for this change
i-lfIDdVYSk-00468-00104311-00104582 exercise rim of the pacific a rimpac as
i-lfIDdVYSk-00469-00104583-00104734 it is known to many
i-lfIDdVYSk-00470-00104735-00105110 always occurs in even years
i-lfIDdVYSk-00471-00105111-00105271 we were looking for efficiency in the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00472-00105272-00105519 fleet activities schedule and also a
i-lfIDdVYSk-00473-00105520-00105919 means to attract navies back to kakadu
i-lfIDdVYSk-00474-00105920-00106166 why not reschedule kakadu to occur in
i-lfIDdVYSk-00475-00106167-00106286 even years
i-lfIDdVYSk-00476-00106288-00106463 right after rimpac
i-lfIDdVYSk-00477-00106464-00106615 the various regional nations
i-lfIDdVYSk-00478-00106616-00106854 participating in rimpac could return
i-lfIDdVYSk-00479-00106855-00107095 home via north australia and exercise
i-lfIDdVYSk-00480-00107096-00107302 kakadu
i-lfIDdVYSk-00481-00107303-00107478 the idea was sound
i-lfIDdVYSk-00482-00107479-00107758 but it meant that for 2007 and a great
i-lfIDdVYSk-00483-00107759-00107927 many of invitees
i-lfIDdVYSk-00484-00107928-00108095 we needed to fill the gap in a
i-lfIDdVYSk-00485-00108096-00108286 transition year where traditional
i-lfIDdVYSk-00486-00108288-00108734 attendees expected some form of activity
i-lfIDdVYSk-00487-00108735-00109071 so exercise kakadu 8 2007
i-lfIDdVYSk-00488-00109072-00109286 was hosted by the fleet commander at
i-lfIDdVYSk-00489-00109288-00109590 hmas watson in sydney from the 23rd to
i-lfIDdVYSk-00490-00109591-00109895 the 27th of july
i-lfIDdVYSk-00491-00109896-00110086 the exercise took the form of a
i-lfIDdVYSk-00492-00110088-00110278 multilateral seminar
i-lfIDdVYSk-00493-00110279-00110486 involving naval delegations from
i-lfIDdVYSk-00494-00110488-00110607 singapore
i-lfIDdVYSk-00495-00110608-00110743 pakistan
i-lfIDdVYSk-00496-00110744-00110871 malaysia
i-lfIDdVYSk-00497-00110872-00110983 japan
i-lfIDdVYSk-00498-00110983-00111254 new caledonia the philippines
i-lfIDdVYSk-00499-00111255-00111390 png
i-lfIDdVYSk-00500-00111391-00111519 thailand
i-lfIDdVYSk-00501-00111520-00111623 india
i-lfIDdVYSk-00502-00111624-00111751 new zealand
i-lfIDdVYSk-00503-00111752-00111966 and indonesia
i-lfIDdVYSk-00504-00111967-00112207 the aim of the seminar was to further
i-lfIDdVYSk-00505-00112208-00112407 develop a shared understanding of
i-lfIDdVYSk-00506-00112408-00112654 regional maritime security issues among
i-lfIDdVYSk-00507-00112655-00112847 participating navies
i-lfIDdVYSk-00508-00112848-00113054 it comprised presentations from a number
i-lfIDdVYSk-00509-00113055-00113223 of visitors
i-lfIDdVYSk-00510-00113224-00113415 distinguished in their fields and a
i-lfIDdVYSk-00511-00113416-00113654 tactical floor game that would enable
i-lfIDdVYSk-00512-00113655-00113886 participants to explore the complexities
i-lfIDdVYSk-00513-00113888-00114134 of maritime operations particularly in
i-lfIDdVYSk-00514-00114135-00114415 the conduct of humanitarian assistance
i-lfIDdVYSk-00515-00114416-00114847 and disaster relief missions
i-lfIDdVYSk-00516-00114848-00115047 an integrable uh sorry an integral
i-lfIDdVYSk-00517-00115048-00115439 component of exercise kakadu 2007
i-lfIDdVYSk-00518-00115440-00115702 was a flag officers forum from the 25th
i-lfIDdVYSk-00519-00115703-00115927 to the 27th of july
i-lfIDdVYSk-00520-00115928-00116215 senior officers from singapore malaysia
i-lfIDdVYSk-00521-00116216-00116447 philippines thailand
i-lfIDdVYSk-00522-00116448-00116719 new zealand and indonesia participated
i-lfIDdVYSk-00523-00116720-00116878 in this forum
i-lfIDdVYSk-00524-00116879-00117110 the most senior flag officer taking part
i-lfIDdVYSk-00525-00117111-00117334 was then vice admiral dato
i-lfIDdVYSk-00526-00117335-00117623 mod amdan bin kurish of the royal
i-lfIDdVYSk-00527-00117624-00117863 malaysian navy
i-lfIDdVYSk-00528-00117864-00118031 chief of navy australia visited that
i-lfIDdVYSk-00529-00118032-00118271 seminar on the final day to address the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00530-00118272-00118527 delegates
i-lfIDdVYSk-00531-00118528-00118766 we had intended to schedule this seminar
i-lfIDdVYSk-00532-00118767-00119007 style format in future odd years while
i-lfIDdVYSk-00533-00119008-00119215 continuing to run the field training
i-lfIDdVYSk-00534-00119216-00119454 exercise in even years
i-lfIDdVYSk-00535-00119455-00119702 this did not eventuate and the seminar
i-lfIDdVYSk-00536-00119703-00120095 format was discontinued after 2007.
i-lfIDdVYSk-00537-00120096-00120223 however
i-lfIDdVYSk-00538-00120224-00120423 a kakadu regional commanders conference
i-lfIDdVYSk-00539-00120424-00120743 was introduced in 2016.
i-lfIDdVYSk-00540-00120744-00120975 hosted by the commander australian fleet
i-lfIDdVYSk-00541-00120976-00121158 the conference was run during the harbor
i-lfIDdVYSk-00542-00121159-00121431 phase for unit commanding officers and
i-lfIDdVYSk-00543-00121432-00121710 visiting flag and senior officers
i-lfIDdVYSk-00544-00121711-00121895 and once again in my own connections to
i-lfIDdVYSk-00545-00121896-00122102 this series
i-lfIDdVYSk-00546-00122103-00122383 i spoke at the 2016 regional commanders
i-lfIDdVYSk-00547-00122383-00122599 conference convened by then rear admiral
i-lfIDdVYSk-00548-00122600-00122927 stuart mayer
i-lfIDdVYSk-00549-00122928-00123134 the change to even-numbered years
i-lfIDdVYSk-00550-00123135-00123399 dovetailing off rimpac and a broader
i-lfIDdVYSk-00551-00123400-00123678 invitation list saw the exercise expand
i-lfIDdVYSk-00552-00123679-00123895 to two thousand people in two thousand
i-lfIDdVYSk-00553-00123896-00123975 eight
i-lfIDdVYSk-00554-00123976-00124175 and three thousand personnel in two
i-lfIDdVYSk-00555-00124176-00124423 thousand and ten
i-lfIDdVYSk-00556-00124424-00124607 in spite of the effects
i-lfIDdVYSk-00557-00124608-00125110 of the global financial crisis in 2009.
i-lfIDdVYSk-00558-00125111-00125358 participation began to wane again sadly
i-lfIDdVYSk-00559-00125359-00125543 in 2012
i-lfIDdVYSk-00560-00125544-00125823 and 2014.
i-lfIDdVYSk-00561-00125824-00126023 in response to the reduced attendance
i-lfIDdVYSk-00562-00126024-00126271 over previous iterations
i-lfIDdVYSk-00563-00126272-00126583 kakadu 16 aimed to slowly move the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00564-00126583-00126831 exercise to become a key event in the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00565-00126832-00126975 regional calendar
i-lfIDdVYSk-00566-00126976-00127158 by providing a significant training
i-lfIDdVYSk-00567-00127159-00127607 opportunity for regional nations
i-lfIDdVYSk-00568-00127608-00127919 the focus of kakadu 2016
i-lfIDdVYSk-00569-00127920-00128158 shifted to focus primarily on
i-lfIDdVYSk-00570-00128159-00128343 international engagement
i-lfIDdVYSk-00571-00128344-00128631 the ran's primary objective was defined
i-lfIDdVYSk-00572-00128632-00128919 as provide an international engagement
i-lfIDdVYSk-00573-00128920-00129166 opportunity for regional navies
i-lfIDdVYSk-00574-00129167-00129510 showcasing the ran
i-lfIDdVYSk-00575-00129511-00129686 the renewed focus on international
i-lfIDdVYSk-00576-00129688-00129958 engagement has revived interest in the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00577-00129959-00130319 exercise as some 3000 personnel from 19
i-lfIDdVYSk-00578-00130320-00130502 countries were involved
i-lfIDdVYSk-00579-00130503-00131151 in 2006.
i-lfIDdVYSk-00580-00131152-00131495 kakadu 18 commitments were from 27
i-lfIDdVYSk-00581-00131496-00131943 nations including 18 major units 4 minor
i-lfIDdVYSk-00582-00131944-00132359 units and 17 aircraft
i-lfIDdVYSk-00583-00132360-00132666 as i alluded to earlier as with
i-lfIDdVYSk-00584-00132667-00132790 [Music]
i-lfIDdVYSk-00585-00132791-00132959 2016
i-lfIDdVYSk-00586-00132960-00133151 commander australian fleet hosted a
i-lfIDdVYSk-00587-00133152-00133359 major engagement event
i-lfIDdVYSk-00588-00133360-00133543 this regional fleet commanders
i-lfIDdVYSk-00589-00133544-00133766 conference significantly increased the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00590-00133767-00133983 profile of the exercise with the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00591-00133984-00134159 attendance of many of the regional fleet
i-lfIDdVYSk-00592-00134160-00134487 commanders in darwin
i-lfIDdVYSk-00593-00134488-00134678 the exercise aim
i-lfIDdVYSk-00594-00134679-00134951 for kakadu 18 was to provide an
i-lfIDdVYSk-00595-00134952-00135151 engagement opportunity for regional
i-lfIDdVYSk-00596-00135152-00135383 partners to undertake multinational
i-lfIDdVYSk-00597-00135384-00135614 maritime activities ranging from
i-lfIDdVYSk-00598-00135615-00135895 constabulary operations to high-end
i-lfIDdVYSk-00599-00135896-00136047 maritime warfare
i-lfIDdVYSk-00600-00136048-00136335 in a combined environment
i-lfIDdVYSk-00601-00136336-00136543 the royal australian navy's exercise
i-lfIDdVYSk-00602-00136544-00136687 objectives
i-lfIDdVYSk-00603-00136688-00136871 the primary was to provide an
i-lfIDdVYSk-00604-00136872-00137054 international engagement opportunity for
i-lfIDdVYSk-00605-00137055-00137502 regional navies showcasing the ram
i-lfIDdVYSk-00606-00137503-00137735 the secondary objective was to provide a
i-lfIDdVYSk-00607-00137736-00137975 minor war vessel training opportunity
i-lfIDdVYSk-00608-00137976-00138151 supported by
i-lfIDdVYSk-00609-00138152-00138414 our defence cooperation program c
i-lfIDdVYSk-00610-00138415-00138671 training unit
i-lfIDdVYSk-00611-00138672-00138902 and our tertiary was
i-lfIDdVYSk-00612-00138903-00139190 to exercise maritime trade operations
i-lfIDdVYSk-00613-00139191-00139471 and effects in multinational maritime
i-lfIDdVYSk-00614-00139472-00140127 environment
i-lfIDdVYSk-00615-00140128-00140454 as kakadu has matured over the years uh
i-lfIDdVYSk-00616-00140455-00140766 it has gone from what i recall in 1993
i-lfIDdVYSk-00617-00140767-00140990 as being three phases a harbour phase of
i-lfIDdVYSk-00618-00140991-00141302 c phase and a returning harbour phase
i-lfIDdVYSk-00619-00141303-00141447 to a
i-lfIDdVYSk-00620-00141448-00141639 harbour phase the fleet commanders
i-lfIDdVYSk-00621-00141640-00141783 conference
i-lfIDdVYSk-00622-00141784-00142135 phase one force integration training
i-lfIDdVYSk-00623-00142136-00142366 phase two free play with an exercise
i-lfIDdVYSk-00624-00142367-00142551 pause in the middle and then the post
i-lfIDdVYSk-00625-00142552-00142926 exercise debriefs
i-lfIDdVYSk-00626-00142927-00143302 kakadu 2016 is perhaps best known for
i-lfIDdVYSk-00627-00143303-00143447 the fact that
i-lfIDdVYSk-00628-00143448-00143687 china was invited to participate
i-lfIDdVYSk-00629-00143688-00143878 and did
i-lfIDdVYSk-00630-00143879-00144095 at the fleet commanders conference
i-lfIDdVYSk-00631-00144096-00144287 then rear admiral mead made some
i-lfIDdVYSk-00632-00144288-00144590 comments sorry this kakadu 2018 not 16.
i-lfIDdVYSk-00633-00144591-00144726 then rear admiral mead the fleet
i-lfIDdVYSk-00634-00144727-00144911 commander at the time made some comments
i-lfIDdVYSk-00635-00144912-00145183 that drew media attention
i-lfIDdVYSk-00636-00145184-00145287 he said
i-lfIDdVYSk-00637-00145288-00145495 from the smallest island nations to the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00638-00145496-00145726 largest global superpowers
i-lfIDdVYSk-00639-00145727-00145943 we all prosper from greater maritime
i-lfIDdVYSk-00640-00145944-00146166 security built on the foundation of
i-lfIDdVYSk-00641-00146167-00146454 agreed rules for how all nations behave
i-lfIDdVYSk-00642-00146455-00146614 at sea
i-lfIDdVYSk-00643-00146615-00146831 respect for freedom of navigation must
i-lfIDdVYSk-00644-00146832-00147078 be maintained by all nations
i-lfIDdVYSk-00645-00147079-00147423 particularly through our complex area
i-lfIDdVYSk-00646-00147424-00147607 while there may be great diversity in
i-lfIDdVYSk-00647-00147608-00147911 our political and economic institutions
i-lfIDdVYSk-00648-00147912-00148175 as mariners with expansive experience
i-lfIDdVYSk-00649-00148176-00148390 and knowledge of our oceans
i-lfIDdVYSk-00650-00148391-00148614 we really do understand the sentiment
i-lfIDdVYSk-00651-00148615-00148966 that a rising tide lifts all boats
i-lfIDdVYSk-00652-00148967-00149135 we thrive together
i-lfIDdVYSk-00653-00149136-00149431 or we fail together
i-lfIDdVYSk-00654-00149432-00149583 now i don't know whether my friend ewan
i-lfIDdVYSk-00655-00149584-00149911 graham is in the audience today but
i-lfIDdVYSk-00656-00149912-00150214 he made some amplifying comments uh
i-lfIDdVYSk-00657-00150215-00150399 which were published in newspapers at
i-lfIDdVYSk-00658-00150400-00150511 the time
i-lfIDdVYSk-00659-00150512-00150751 he said most of the core problems were
i-lfIDdVYSk-00660-00150752-00151007 at a political level rather than between
i-lfIDdVYSk-00661-00151008-00151247 maritime operatives whom he described
i-lfIDdVYSk-00662-00151248-00151543 being part of a kind of brotherhood
i-lfIDdVYSk-00663-00151544-00151751 and he said i quote they are like a
i-lfIDdVYSk-00664-00151752-00152159 white uniform cult of the sea
i-lfIDdVYSk-00665-00152160-00152599 we might like to talk about that in q a
i-lfIDdVYSk-00666-00152600-00152975 as many would know kakadu 2020 was
i-lfIDdVYSk-00667-00152976-00153423 cancelled due to covert 19 pandemic
i-lfIDdVYSk-00668-00153424-00153535 today
i-lfIDdVYSk-00669-00153536-00153783 kakadu augments australia's current
i-lfIDdVYSk-00670-00153784-00154023 bilateral and multilateral engagement
i-lfIDdVYSk-00671-00154024-00154135 activities
i-lfIDdVYSk-00672-00154136-00154359 and promotes greater and more effective
i-lfIDdVYSk-00673-00154360-00154583 naval and military cooperation in the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00674-00154584-00154687 region
i-lfIDdVYSk-00675-00154688-00154887 i'm going to finish just by listing the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00676-00154888-00155159 number of nations that have participated
i-lfIDdVYSk-00677-00155160-00155311 in kakadu
i-lfIDdVYSk-00678-00155312-00155487 during its time
i-lfIDdVYSk-00679-00155488-00155807 in no particular order singapore new
i-lfIDdVYSk-00680-00155808-00155911 zealand
i-lfIDdVYSk-00681-00155912-00156031 thailand
i-lfIDdVYSk-00682-00156032-00156175 malaysia
i-lfIDdVYSk-00683-00156176-00156439 indonesia papua new guinea
i-lfIDdVYSk-00684-00156440-00156583 philippines
i-lfIDdVYSk-00685-00156584-00156719 japan
i-lfIDdVYSk-00686-00156720-00156919 republic of korea
i-lfIDdVYSk-00687-00156920-00157175 france new caledonia
i-lfIDdVYSk-00688-00157176-00157271 india
i-lfIDdVYSk-00689-00157272-00157399 pakistan
i-lfIDdVYSk-00690-00157400-00157526 brunei
i-lfIDdVYSk-00691-00157527-00157695 timor-leste
i-lfIDdVYSk-00692-00157696-00157823 tonga
i-lfIDdVYSk-00693-00157824-00158054 hong kong uk
i-lfIDdVYSk-00694-00158055-00158159 canada
i-lfIDdVYSk-00695-00158160-00158302 bangladesh
i-lfIDdVYSk-00696-00158303-00158447 cambodia
i-lfIDdVYSk-00697-00158448-00158590 vietnam
i-lfIDdVYSk-00698-00158591-00158711 fiji
i-lfIDdVYSk-00699-00158712-00158943 the united states of america the united
i-lfIDdVYSk-00700-00158944-00159375 arab emirates the cook islands sri lanka
i-lfIDdVYSk-00701-00159376-00159478 chile
i-lfIDdVYSk-00702-00159479-00159575 china
i-lfIDdVYSk-00703-00159576-00159683 and
i-lfIDdVYSk-00704-00159684-00159863 vanuatu
i-lfIDdVYSk-00705-00159864-00160214 if we want an example of a commonality
i-lfIDdVYSk-00706-00160215-00160383 of purpose
i-lfIDdVYSk-00707-00160384-00160590 this is one of the finest exemplars that
i-lfIDdVYSk-00708-00160591-00160839 i can think of that australia sponsors
i-lfIDdVYSk-00709-00160840-00161179 thank you very much
i-lfIDdVYSk-00710-00161180-00161583 [Applause]
i-lfIDdVYSk-00711-00161584-00161839 uh thanks very much
i-lfIDdVYSk-00712-00161840-00162071 it uh gives us a great pleasure to be
i-lfIDdVYSk-00713-00162072-00162263 able to invite one of our foreign
i-lfIDdVYSk-00714-00162264-00162375 partners
i-lfIDdVYSk-00715-00162376-00162702 uh to the stage to present captain ivan
i-lfIDdVYSk-00716-00162703-00162919 mario is the director general of the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00717-00162920-00163207 royal malaysian navy sea power center
i-lfIDdVYSk-00718-00163208-00163326 he was commissioned in the royal
i-lfIDdVYSk-00719-00163327-00163614 malaysian navy in january 1987
i-lfIDdVYSk-00720-00163615-00163887 and is qualified as a warfare specialist
i-lfIDdVYSk-00721-00163888-00164095 he has extensive sea service including
i-lfIDdVYSk-00722-00164096-00164366 involvement with exercise kakadu in 2001
i-lfIDdVYSk-00723-00164367-00164599 as the air warfare officer embarked in
i-lfIDdVYSk-00724-00164600-00164759 katy laku
i-lfIDdVYSk-00725-00164760-00164926 he later went on to assume command of
i-lfIDdVYSk-00726-00164927-00165159 four separate malaysian navy patrol
i-lfIDdVYSk-00727-00165160-00165263 craft
i-lfIDdVYSk-00728-00165264-00165471 a la
i-lfIDdVYSk-00729-00165472-00165647 class corvette and a multi-role support
i-lfIDdVYSk-00730-00165648-00165751 ship
i-lfIDdVYSk-00731-00165752-00165983 ashore he has served in roles as varied
i-lfIDdVYSk-00732-00165984-00166135 as senior navy directing staff at the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00733-00166136-00166351 malaysian armed services college
i-lfIDdVYSk-00734-00166352-00166535 chief staff officer work up inspection
i-lfIDdVYSk-00735-00166536-00166711 fleet operations command
i-lfIDdVYSk-00736-00166712-00166887 and as director operations the malaysian
i-lfIDdVYSk-00737-00166888-00167126 armed forces headquarters
i-lfIDdVYSk-00738-00167127-00167247 he holds a master's degree in
i-lfIDdVYSk-00739-00167248-00167390 engineering business management from the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00740-00167391-00167566 university of warwick a bachelor's
i-lfIDdVYSk-00741-00167567-00167831 degree in business administration
i-lfIDdVYSk-00742-00167832-00168007 and a diploma in strategic and defence
i-lfIDdVYSk-00743-00168008-00168231 studies his current position as i said
i-lfIDdVYSk-00744-00168232-00168407 is director general of the royal
i-lfIDdVYSk-00745-00168408-00168607 malaysian navy sea power center and it's
i-lfIDdVYSk-00746-00168608-00168735 our great pleasure to invite you to
i-lfIDdVYSk-00747-00168736-00169483 speak this
i-lfIDdVYSk-00748-00169484-00169759 morning right thank you sir for the kind
i-lfIDdVYSk-00749-00169760-00169959 words uh search ladies and gentlemen
i-lfIDdVYSk-00750-00169960-00170126 good morning uh
i-lfIDdVYSk-00751-00170127-00170311 first foremost like to thank seapower
i-lfIDdVYSk-00752-00170312-00170511 center australia for inviting me for
i-lfIDdVYSk-00753-00170512-00170702 this conference uh for the next few
i-lfIDdVYSk-00754-00170703-00170895 minutes i will just
i-lfIDdVYSk-00755-00170896-00171247 battle through rmns experience
i-lfIDdVYSk-00756-00171248-00171559 from the first exercise kakadu in 1993
i-lfIDdVYSk-00757-00171560-00171902 up until now in our future aspirations
i-lfIDdVYSk-00758-00171903-00172159 for the record in 1993 i think i still
i-lfIDdVYSk-00759-00172160-00172343 had my hair
i-lfIDdVYSk-00760-00172344-00172438 slim
i-lfIDdVYSk-00761-00172439-00172735 a young lieutenant okay i was on petrol
i-lfIDdVYSk-00762-00172736-00172895 crafts at that time
i-lfIDdVYSk-00763-00172896-00173159 anyway uh sirs ladies and gentlemen in
i-lfIDdVYSk-00764-00173160-00173431 1993 when royal nation navy first
i-lfIDdVYSk-00765-00173432-00173695 participated in the first
i-lfIDdVYSk-00766-00173696-00173871 multilateral exercise we were keenly
i-lfIDdVYSk-00767-00173872-00173959 aware
i-lfIDdVYSk-00768-00173960-00174143 that there was an abundance of new
i-lfIDdVYSk-00769-00174144-00174254 experience
i-lfIDdVYSk-00770-00174255-00174447 and knowledge to be gained
i-lfIDdVYSk-00771-00174448-00174687 this multilateral exercise was seen as
i-lfIDdVYSk-00772-00174688-00174999 an enabler for interactions with various
i-lfIDdVYSk-00773-00175000-00175254 international navies an exercise that
i-lfIDdVYSk-00774-00175255-00175438 was good and for regional and extra
i-lfIDdVYSk-00775-00175439-00175671 regional strategic engagement
i-lfIDdVYSk-00776-00175672-00175854 which provided the catalyst for
i-lfIDdVYSk-00777-00175855-00176047 strengthening relations
i-lfIDdVYSk-00778-00176048-00176351 and building trust between countries
i-lfIDdVYSk-00779-00176352-00176575 hence it was an honor and privilege for
i-lfIDdVYSk-00780-00176576-00176783 the argument to be part of this maritime
i-lfIDdVYSk-00781-00176784-00176926 exercise
i-lfIDdVYSk-00782-00176927-00177135 the army's participation in this
i-lfIDdVYSk-00783-00177136-00177375 multi-attacks exercise is influenced by
i-lfIDdVYSk-00784-00177376-00177478 these
i-lfIDdVYSk-00785-00177479-00177831 pivotal factors first the exercise was
i-lfIDdVYSk-00786-00177832-00177943 and still is
i-lfIDdVYSk-00787-00177944-00178119 valuable in supporting our government's
i-lfIDdVYSk-00788-00178120-00178390 foreign policy and diplomatic framework
i-lfIDdVYSk-00789-00178391-00178663 as it has the potential to converge
i-lfIDdVYSk-00790-00178664-00178799 common goals
i-lfIDdVYSk-00791-00178800-00179023 clearly define shared concerns and
i-lfIDdVYSk-00792-00179024-00179263 promote mutual trust between the navies
i-lfIDdVYSk-00793-00179264-00179478 of participating nations
i-lfIDdVYSk-00794-00179479-00179726 second exercise without like-minded
i-lfIDdVYSk-00795-00179727-00180078 participation but participating nations
i-lfIDdVYSk-00796-00180079-00180302 will enable us to ensure explore
i-lfIDdVYSk-00797-00180303-00180471 opportunities and enhance our
i-lfIDdVYSk-00798-00180472-00180678 possibilities of cooperative
i-lfIDdVYSk-00799-00180679-00180895 contingencies
i-lfIDdVYSk-00800-00180896-00181166 which is to deter disrupt and deny the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00801-00181167-00181343 transnational nature of non-traditional
i-lfIDdVYSk-00802-00181344-00181478 threats
i-lfIDdVYSk-00803-00181479-00181663 third the exercise will be an excellent
i-lfIDdVYSk-00804-00181664-00181878 opportunity to enhance our modernization
i-lfIDdVYSk-00805-00181879-00182031 efforts
i-lfIDdVYSk-00806-00182032-00182214 through testing and observing key
i-lfIDdVYSk-00807-00182215-00182526 capabilities and learning new doctrines
i-lfIDdVYSk-00808-00182527-00182783 from other participating nations
i-lfIDdVYSk-00809-00182784-00182975 for the growing need for military
i-lfIDdVYSk-00810-00182976-00183190 operations other than war the exercise
i-lfIDdVYSk-00811-00183191-00183447 would be a catalyst and an imperative
i-lfIDdVYSk-00812-00183448-00183599 for the other men to participate in
i-lfIDdVYSk-00813-00183600-00183823 bilateral exercise rescue operations and
i-lfIDdVYSk-00814-00183824-00184135 humanitarian aid assistance and disaster
i-lfIDdVYSk-00815-00184136-00184399 relief operations when needed and lastly
i-lfIDdVYSk-00816-00184400-00184623 the exercise provided a continuous
i-lfIDdVYSk-00817-00184624-00184871 revolving opportunity to the rmn
i-lfIDdVYSk-00818-00184872-00185047 personnel to upgrade and upskill
i-lfIDdVYSk-00819-00185048-00185214 themselves
i-lfIDdVYSk-00820-00185215-00185395 towards enhancing interpro
i-lfIDdVYSk-00821-00185396-00185678 interoperability capabilities
i-lfIDdVYSk-00822-00185679-00185863 ladies and gentlemen says
i-lfIDdVYSk-00823-00185864-00186199 as a confidence building measure
i-lfIDdVYSk-00824-00186200-00186366 and with the rise of non-traditional
i-lfIDdVYSk-00825-00186367-00186535 threats the emphasis on force
i-lfIDdVYSk-00826-00186536-00186807 modernization and military operations
i-lfIDdVYSk-00827-00186808-00186966 other and more the ironman's
i-lfIDdVYSk-00828-00186967-00187150 participation in this multilateral
i-lfIDdVYSk-00829-00187151-00187423 exercise constituted one of the most
i-lfIDdVYSk-00830-00187424-00187559 open forms
i-lfIDdVYSk-00831-00187560-00187807 and beginning evolution of military
i-lfIDdVYSk-00832-00187808-00188047 diplomacy and national security
i-lfIDdVYSk-00833-00188048-00188271 it also represented one of the most
i-lfIDdVYSk-00834-00188272-00188478 sophisticated and mutually beneficial
i-lfIDdVYSk-00835-00188479-00188823 mechanisms of navy to navy engagement
i-lfIDdVYSk-00836-00188824-00189119 the access was a means in realizing
i-lfIDdVYSk-00837-00189120-00189399 participating countries foreign policy
i-lfIDdVYSk-00838-00189400-00189590 security imperatives and defense
i-lfIDdVYSk-00839-00189591-00189863 diplomacy which are driven predominantly
i-lfIDdVYSk-00840-00189864-00190087 by political guidance since the navy is
i-lfIDdVYSk-00841-00190088-00190311 required to fulfill the nexus of
i-lfIDdVYSk-00842-00190312-00190511 political diplomatic and social
i-lfIDdVYSk-00843-00190512-00190638 responsibilities
i-lfIDdVYSk-00844-00190639-00190919 besides its wartime functions
i-lfIDdVYSk-00845-00190920-00191111 in today's context where answered
i-lfIDdVYSk-00846-00191112-00191335 uncertainty complexity and bigotry are
i-lfIDdVYSk-00847-00191336-00191526 the mainstay of global security and
i-lfIDdVYSk-00848-00191527-00191695 defense environment
i-lfIDdVYSk-00849-00191696-00191895 defence diplomacy has become more
i-lfIDdVYSk-00850-00191896-00192095 important to us to pursue individual
i-lfIDdVYSk-00851-00192096-00192350 state and collective regional strategic
i-lfIDdVYSk-00852-00192351-00192463 interests
i-lfIDdVYSk-00853-00192464-00192775 thus exercise kakadu is viewed as very
i-lfIDdVYSk-00854-00192776-00192902 significant
i-lfIDdVYSk-00855-00192903-00193175 and plays a crucial role in facilitating
i-lfIDdVYSk-00856-00193176-00193278 nature's
i-lfIDdVYSk-00857-00193279-00193526 defence diplomacy
i-lfIDdVYSk-00858-00193527-00193735 nation's recognition of non-traditional
i-lfIDdVYSk-00859-00193736-00193943 secret threats is an important rationale
i-lfIDdVYSk-00860-00193944-00194150 for the armament's participation in this
i-lfIDdVYSk-00861-00194151-00194350 material exercise
i-lfIDdVYSk-00862-00194351-00194526 the armaments involvement this
i-lfIDdVYSk-00863-00194527-00194711 multi-letter exercise expense military
i-lfIDdVYSk-00864-00194712-00194838 cooperation
i-lfIDdVYSk-00865-00194839-00194999 in dealing with these non-traditional
i-lfIDdVYSk-00866-00195000-00195143 threats and crimes
i-lfIDdVYSk-00867-00195144-00195399 which have transnational aspects
i-lfIDdVYSk-00868-00195400-00195631 because these trends transcend borders
i-lfIDdVYSk-00869-00195632-00195911 the rmn recognizes the mutual benefits
i-lfIDdVYSk-00870-00195912-00196031 of working with
i-lfIDdVYSk-00871-00196032-00196302 dran and the other participating navies
i-lfIDdVYSk-00872-00196303-00196519 to curb this threat
i-lfIDdVYSk-00873-00196520-00196695 the exercise has proven valuable in
i-lfIDdVYSk-00874-00196696-00196902 enabling participating navies to
i-lfIDdVYSk-00875-00196903-00197159 coordinate bilateral responses to
i-lfIDdVYSk-00876-00197160-00197350 various transporter threats
i-lfIDdVYSk-00877-00197351-00197695 where it benefits its benefits extend
i-lfIDdVYSk-00878-00197696-00197902 exceed beyond the boundaries of exercise
i-lfIDdVYSk-00879-00197903-00198031 itself
i-lfIDdVYSk-00880-00198032-00198263 it only sends a strong-willed political
i-lfIDdVYSk-00881-00198264-00198478 message to non-state actors
i-lfIDdVYSk-00882-00198479-00198663 that the participating states in excess
i-lfIDdVYSk-00883-00198664-00198895 of skeletal do have the means and will
i-lfIDdVYSk-00884-00198896-00199143 to deliver a potent response to deter
i-lfIDdVYSk-00885-00199144-00199414 incidents from happening in future
i-lfIDdVYSk-00886-00199415-00199631 the exercises also contribute
i-lfIDdVYSk-00887-00199632-00199847 contributed to the rms modernization
i-lfIDdVYSk-00888-00199848-00200047 plan by providing opportunities to
i-lfIDdVYSk-00889-00200048-00200214 observe and benchmark
i-lfIDdVYSk-00890-00200215-00200487 other participating navies evolve
i-lfIDdVYSk-00891-00200488-00200735 capabilities and capacities
i-lfIDdVYSk-00892-00200736-00200950 following our counterparts in action
i-lfIDdVYSk-00893-00200951-00201143 has enabled the argument to enrich and
i-lfIDdVYSk-00894-00201144-00201447 change its own doctrines
i-lfIDdVYSk-00895-00201448-00201607 training together under
i-lfIDdVYSk-00896-00201608-00201902 a unified command with a common sop and
i-lfIDdVYSk-00897-00201903-00202031 references
i-lfIDdVYSk-00898-00202032-00202238 and with other nations has demonstrated
i-lfIDdVYSk-00899-00202239-00202431 our unity of purpose
i-lfIDdVYSk-00900-00202432-00202575 they've shown we have the collective
i-lfIDdVYSk-00901-00202576-00202678 will and
i-lfIDdVYSk-00902-00202679-00202871 capability to increase trust in each
i-lfIDdVYSk-00903-00202872-00202983 other
i-lfIDdVYSk-00904-00202984-00203166 strategically this exercise is in line
i-lfIDdVYSk-00905-00203167-00203326 with our aspiration for credible
i-lfIDdVYSk-00906-00203327-00203471 partnership
i-lfIDdVYSk-00907-00203472-00203687 an instrument to enhance trust and has
i-lfIDdVYSk-00908-00203688-00203843 been an avenue toward the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00909-00203844-00204159 confidence-building measure
i-lfIDdVYSk-00910-00204160-00204390 the oc's border exercise our oc's
i-lfIDdVYSk-00911-00204391-00204663 exercise has given the iron man a unique
i-lfIDdVYSk-00912-00204664-00204879 opportunity to practice long distance
i-lfIDdVYSk-00913-00204880-00205023 deployment
i-lfIDdVYSk-00914-00205023-00205214 and enhance our strategic security and
i-lfIDdVYSk-00915-00205215-00205390 defense relationship
i-lfIDdVYSk-00916-00205391-00205551 in particular it has increased our
i-lfIDdVYSk-00917-00205552-00205775 interoperability capable capacity with
i-lfIDdVYSk-00918-00205776-00205886 the ran
i-lfIDdVYSk-00919-00205887-00206062 and other participating navies beyond
i-lfIDdVYSk-00920-00206063-00206206 the region
i-lfIDdVYSk-00921-00206207-00206414 the success of participating in this
i-lfIDdVYSk-00922-00206415-00206727 exercise also testament for the need for
i-lfIDdVYSk-00923-00206728-00206903 our nation to improve logistics
i-lfIDdVYSk-00924-00206904-00207094 capabilities
i-lfIDdVYSk-00925-00207096-00207327 ladies and gentlemen it's also very
i-lfIDdVYSk-00926-00207328-00207510 enhancing and
i-lfIDdVYSk-00927-00207511-00207790 the quality of admin and it is also a
i-lfIDdVYSk-00928-00207791-00207966 way of enhancing our
i-lfIDdVYSk-00929-00207967-00208190 quality of our immense
i-lfIDdVYSk-00930-00208191-00208438 uh capabilities this exercise is also
i-lfIDdVYSk-00931-00208439-00208631 seen as a means of giving
i-lfIDdVYSk-00932-00208632-00208927 the navy people exposure to outside
i-lfIDdVYSk-00933-00208928-00209158 world the experience of operating with
i-lfIDdVYSk-00934-00209159-00209303 foreign navies
i-lfIDdVYSk-00935-00209304-00209503 and engaging in cultural exchange and
i-lfIDdVYSk-00936-00209504-00209831 educational activities
i-lfIDdVYSk-00937-00209832-00210023 with the global military apprentice has
i-lfIDdVYSk-00938-00210023-00210158 been seeing
i-lfIDdVYSk-00939-00210159-00210375 technology transformation
i-lfIDdVYSk-00940-00210376-00210558 as technology advances and changes
i-lfIDdVYSk-00941-00210559-00210671 improve
i-lfIDdVYSk-00942-00210671-00210894 there comes a need for the navy to align
i-lfIDdVYSk-00943-00210896-00211127 with these changes in terms of knowledge
i-lfIDdVYSk-00944-00211128-00211223 skill
i-lfIDdVYSk-00945-00211223-00211382 values and abilities
i-lfIDdVYSk-00946-00211383-00211567 therefore one of the best ways
i-lfIDdVYSk-00947-00211567-00211742 we feel to enhance knowledge and skill
i-lfIDdVYSk-00948-00211744-00211839 is through
i-lfIDdVYSk-00949-00211840-00212151 multi-level multilateral exercises
i-lfIDdVYSk-00950-00212152-00212375 in a nutshell getting sharers exposed to
i-lfIDdVYSk-00951-00212376-00212575 relevant and consistent
i-lfIDdVYSk-00952-00212576-00212710 exercises
i-lfIDdVYSk-00953-00212711-00212903 will help the navy's improve performance
i-lfIDdVYSk-00954-00212904-00213127 and achieved desired results both in
i-lfIDdVYSk-00955-00213128-00213415 traditional and non-traditional domains
i-lfIDdVYSk-00956-00213416-00213575 it was i also believe that with the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00957-00213576-00213758 ever-increasing change in technology
i-lfIDdVYSk-00958-00213759-00214023 across all defence industries
i-lfIDdVYSk-00959-00214023-00214246 exposing sailors to new techniques in
i-lfIDdVYSk-00960-00214248-00214415 these advanced technologies will help to
i-lfIDdVYSk-00961-00214416-00214671 increase efficiency and their navy's
i-lfIDdVYSk-00962-00214671-00214879 effectiveness
i-lfIDdVYSk-00963-00214880-00215127 in kakadu-1 the ironman was represented
i-lfIDdVYSk-00964-00215128-00215439 by a corvette and team of drivers
i-lfIDdVYSk-00965-00215440-00215623 from this humble beginning we learned
i-lfIDdVYSk-00966-00215623-00215846 our true capabilities and began to
i-lfIDdVYSk-00967-00215848-00216046 expand our horizons
i-lfIDdVYSk-00968-00216048-00216246 the ireman's participation in this
i-lfIDdVYSk-00969-00216248-00216463 exercise has always been to improve
i-lfIDdVYSk-00970-00216464-00216639 multilateral
i-lfIDdVYSk-00971-00216640-00216871 relations and security cooperation with
i-lfIDdVYSk-00972-00216871-00216942 the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00973-00216944-00217110 rnn and
i-lfIDdVYSk-00974-00217111-00217319 to a certain extent we are the other
i-lfIDdVYSk-00975-00217319-00217510 participating navies
i-lfIDdVYSk-00976-00217511-00217710 accordingly the exercise has boosted the
i-lfIDdVYSk-00977-00217711-00217982 confidence of the ironman's people
i-lfIDdVYSk-00978-00217983-00218271 the opportunity to provide the rmn
i-lfIDdVYSk-00979-00218271-00218479 people with greater exposure to
i-lfIDdVYSk-00980-00218480-00218775 exercises environments to test their
i-lfIDdVYSk-00981-00218776-00218919 capabilities and improve their
i-lfIDdVYSk-00982-00218919-00219142 international image is a professional
i-lfIDdVYSk-00983-00219144-00219294 imperative
i-lfIDdVYSk-00984-00219296-00219575 for us to participate in this exercise
i-lfIDdVYSk-00985-00219576-00219782 the confidence obtained from this unique
i-lfIDdVYSk-00986-00219783-00219910 opportunity
i-lfIDdVYSk-00987-00219911-00220087 to interact with international naval
i-lfIDdVYSk-00988-00220088-00220334 community and deploy overseas has raised
i-lfIDdVYSk-00989-00220335-00220494 the rms ability
i-lfIDdVYSk-00990-00220496-00220687 to operate in an overseas environment
i-lfIDdVYSk-00991-00220688-00220903 and overcome logistic challenges
i-lfIDdVYSk-00992-00220904-00221071 all this is in tandem with otterman's
i-lfIDdVYSk-00993-00221071-00221287 ambition to develop the navy
i-lfIDdVYSk-00994-00221288-00221582 its a desire to learn from other navies
i-lfIDdVYSk-00995-00221583-00221734 and increase confidence and
i-lfIDdVYSk-00996-00221735-00221951 interoperability information sharing and
i-lfIDdVYSk-00997-00221952-00222246 develop credible partnership
i-lfIDdVYSk-00998-00222248-00222406 personally i feel the exercise has
i-lfIDdVYSk-00999-00222407-00222606 demonstrated an unprecedented level of
i-lfIDdVYSk-01000-00222607-00222879 cooperation in many areas and fostered
i-lfIDdVYSk-01001-00222880-00223087 regional climate of trust
i-lfIDdVYSk-01002-00223088-00223294 it also shows the orient's growing
i-lfIDdVYSk-01003-00223296-00223487 interest in pursuing international
i-lfIDdVYSk-01004-00223488-00223734 collaboration and cooperation
i-lfIDdVYSk-01005-00223735-00224006 to conclude i can firmly i can firmly
i-lfIDdVYSk-01006-00224007-00224191 say that participating in this
i-lfIDdVYSk-01007-00224192-00224503 multilateral exercise beyond our normal
i-lfIDdVYSk-01008-00224504-00224671 operating space
i-lfIDdVYSk-01009-00224671-00224951 has genuinely exposed the arrangement to
i-lfIDdVYSk-01010-00224952-00225223 broad spectrum of naval competencies
i-lfIDdVYSk-01011-00225223-00225446 while enhancing cooperation
i-lfIDdVYSk-01012-00225448-00225558 and
i-lfIDdVYSk-01013-00225559-00225846 probability in working closely together
i-lfIDdVYSk-01014-00225848-00226006 for the peace and stability of the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01015-00226007-00226110 region
i-lfIDdVYSk-01016-00226111-00226431 with that i conclude my opening address
i-lfIDdVYSk-01017-00226432-00226689 thank you
i-lfIDdVYSk-01018-00226690-00227134 [Applause]
i-lfIDdVYSk-01019-00227135-00227391 uh thank you very much alvin
i-lfIDdVYSk-01020-00227392-00227663 our next star speaker is captain chalmun
i-lfIDdVYSk-01021-00227664-00227910 buchan from thailand
i-lfIDdVYSk-01022-00227911-00228110 he's at the deputy director of policy
i-lfIDdVYSk-01023-00228111-00228279 and strategy division at the naval
i-lfIDdVYSk-01024-00228280-00228639 operations department royal thai navy
i-lfIDdVYSk-01025-00228640-00228894 he joined the royal thai navy in 1992
i-lfIDdVYSk-01026-00228896-00229055 and his sea service were predominantly
i-lfIDdVYSk-01027-00229056-00229239 spent with the patrol squadron of the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01028-00229240-00229423 royal thai fleet and includes command of
i-lfIDdVYSk-01029-00229423-00229991 the patrol boats pgm 13 and pgm pgm14
i-lfIDdVYSk-01030-00229992-00230151 captain boonchang is a graduate of the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01031-00230152-00230327 royal thai navy higher command and staff
i-lfIDdVYSk-01032-00230328-00230575 college and is british equivalent
i-lfIDdVYSk-01033-00230576-00230751 he has served in a wide ranging area
i-lfIDdVYSk-01034-00230752-00230894 such as flag officer to the deputy
i-lfIDdVYSk-01035-00230896-00231031 commander-in-chief
i-lfIDdVYSk-01036-00231032-00231271 staff officer to the chief of staff
i-lfIDdVYSk-01037-00231271-00231439 and instructor at the royal thai naval
i-lfIDdVYSk-01038-00231440-00231623 command and staff college
i-lfIDdVYSk-01039-00231623-00231782 he holds a bachelor degree in electrical
i-lfIDdVYSk-01040-00231783-00231910 engineering from the royal thai naval
i-lfIDdVYSk-01041-00231911-00232158 academy and a master of arts in defence
i-lfIDdVYSk-01042-00232159-00232446 studies from king's college london
i-lfIDdVYSk-01043-00232448-00232582 he's currently serving as the deputy
i-lfIDdVYSk-01044-00232583-00232767 director of policy strategy and we
i-lfIDdVYSk-01045-00232767-00233894 invite him to address
i-lfIDdVYSk-01046-00233896-00234134 thank you very much for your kind words
i-lfIDdVYSk-01047-00234135-00234375 i'm good morning to everyone
i-lfIDdVYSk-01048-00234376-00234694 oh my name again is captain shalom wood
i-lfIDdVYSk-01049-00234696-00234991 jan i work as the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01050-00234992-00235246 deputy director of the planning and
i-lfIDdVYSk-01051-00235248-00235471 strategy division from the naval
i-lfIDdVYSk-01052-00235471-00235734 operations department
i-lfIDdVYSk-01053-00235735-00235831 um
i-lfIDdVYSk-01054-00235832-00236127 before i start my presentation
i-lfIDdVYSk-01055-00236128-00236351 i would like to thank
i-lfIDdVYSk-01056-00236352-00236527 to the rn
i-lfIDdVYSk-01057-00236528-00236671 to make me here
i-lfIDdVYSk-01058-00236671-00236975 and this event among
i-lfIDdVYSk-01059-00236976-00237239 all the participants around the world
i-lfIDdVYSk-01060-00237240-00237519 it's my first time in australia
i-lfIDdVYSk-01061-00237519-00237839 and of course it's my honor to be here
i-lfIDdVYSk-01062-00237840-00238119 as a part of the such an effective
i-lfIDdVYSk-01063-00238119-00238439 conference
i-lfIDdVYSk-01064-00238440-00238751 actually i got my slide
i-lfIDdVYSk-01065-00238752-00239134 so next slide please
i-lfIDdVYSk-01066-00239135-00239567 um the presentation has two key topics
i-lfIDdVYSk-01067-00239567-00239798 the first one
i-lfIDdVYSk-01068-00239800-00240079 talks about the rtn experience
i-lfIDdVYSk-01069-00240080-00240303 in cacadou exercise
i-lfIDdVYSk-01070-00240304-00240551 and then the second topic i will touch
i-lfIDdVYSk-01071-00240552-00240639 on
i-lfIDdVYSk-01072-00240640-00240882 how the calculator exercise
i-lfIDdVYSk-01073-00240883-00241175 contributes to our mission
i-lfIDdVYSk-01074-00241176-00241342 which i think
i-lfIDdVYSk-01075-00241344-00241719 this part is key opportunity for us
i-lfIDdVYSk-01076-00241719-00241910 to share some thoughts
i-lfIDdVYSk-01077-00241911-00242127 perspectives and
i-lfIDdVYSk-01078-00242128-00242510 of course some key takes aways
i-lfIDdVYSk-01079-00242511-00242806 my presentation is approximately about
i-lfIDdVYSk-01080-00242807-00243055 eight to ten minutes long
i-lfIDdVYSk-01081-00243056-00243303 next please
i-lfIDdVYSk-01082-00243304-00243542 talking about our experience
i-lfIDdVYSk-01083-00243544-00243871 as you may know that the rtn was
i-lfIDdVYSk-01084-00243871-00244079 one of the participants
i-lfIDdVYSk-01085-00244080-00244527 in the first cacado exercise in 1993.
i-lfIDdVYSk-01086-00244528-00244846 we are proud of that and here is some
i-lfIDdVYSk-01087-00244848-00245206 details of our past experience
i-lfIDdVYSk-01088-00245207-00245471 please
i-lfIDdVYSk-01089-00245471-00245879 as the statistic shown on the slide
i-lfIDdVYSk-01090-00245880-00246223 the rtn has continuously joined kakadu
i-lfIDdVYSk-01091-00246223-00246663 since 1993 until 2018
i-lfIDdVYSk-01092-00246664-00246910 by sending one frigate
i-lfIDdVYSk-01093-00246911-00247230 to join the exercise at each time
i-lfIDdVYSk-01094-00247231-00247487 the kakadu 2008
i-lfIDdVYSk-01095-00247488-00247894 was special for us because the rtn also
i-lfIDdVYSk-01096-00247896-00248119 sent the aircraft
i-lfIDdVYSk-01097-00248119-00248342 along with the ship joining the exercise
i-lfIDdVYSk-01098-00248344-00248534 as well
i-lfIDdVYSk-01099-00248535-00248758 unfortunately sometimes we found
i-lfIDdVYSk-01100-00248759-00248919 difficulties
i-lfIDdVYSk-01101-00248919-00249342 to send our platform
i-lfIDdVYSk-01102-00249344-00249455 however
i-lfIDdVYSk-01103-00249456-00249798 the rtn has rate the kakadu as one of
i-lfIDdVYSk-01104-00249800-00250110 the major multilateral exercises
i-lfIDdVYSk-01105-00250111-00250455 and regions so we try our best
i-lfIDdVYSk-01106-00250456-00250767 to participate and maintain our training
i-lfIDdVYSk-01107-00250767-00251071 in the exercise
i-lfIDdVYSk-01108-00251071-00251319 as you can see on the right side table
i-lfIDdVYSk-01109-00251319-00251487 that we send
i-lfIDdVYSk-01110-00251488-00251719 our observers
i-lfIDdVYSk-01111-00251719-00251927 and steps
i-lfIDdVYSk-01112-00251928-00252110 for six times
i-lfIDdVYSk-01113-00252111-00252415 that reflects how we value
i-lfIDdVYSk-01114-00252416-00252767 this exercise as the opportunity for our
i-lfIDdVYSk-01115-00252767-00252871 crews
i-lfIDdVYSk-01116-00252871-00253039 to be challenged
i-lfIDdVYSk-01117-00253040-00253494 to the range of maritime activities
i-lfIDdVYSk-01118-00253496-00253663 next please
i-lfIDdVYSk-01119-00253664-00253863 the second topic
i-lfIDdVYSk-01120-00253864-00254158 how the exercise contributes to our
i-lfIDdVYSk-01121-00254159-00254375 mission
i-lfIDdVYSk-01122-00254376-00254575 please
i-lfIDdVYSk-01123-00254576-00254882 generally the maritime exercise mainly
i-lfIDdVYSk-01124-00254883-00255263 focused on the tactical aspect
i-lfIDdVYSk-01125-00255264-00255398 arguably
i-lfIDdVYSk-01126-00255400-00255710 at the same time the exercise can also
i-lfIDdVYSk-01127-00255711-00255839 deliver
i-lfIDdVYSk-01128-00255840-00256134 some strategic approaches
i-lfIDdVYSk-01129-00256135-00256358 so let me divide
i-lfIDdVYSk-01130-00256359-00256655 this topic into two parts
i-lfIDdVYSk-01131-00256656-00256998 the contribution at the strategic level
i-lfIDdVYSk-01132-00257000-00257271 and the tactical level
i-lfIDdVYSk-01133-00257271-00257494 as i mentioned earlier
i-lfIDdVYSk-01134-00257496-00257894 that the rtn participate in the kakadu
i-lfIDdVYSk-01135-00257896-00258198 13 times r14
i-lfIDdVYSk-01136-00258200-00258487 the reason behind such an effort is that
i-lfIDdVYSk-01137-00258488-00258719 we believe
i-lfIDdVYSk-01138-00258719-00259030 that the multilateral exercise
i-lfIDdVYSk-01139-00259031-00259175 in this region
i-lfIDdVYSk-01140-00259176-00259503 can pave the way to the maritime
i-lfIDdVYSk-01141-00259504-00259694 and cooperation
i-lfIDdVYSk-01142-00259696-00259991 and bring security for the indo-pacific
i-lfIDdVYSk-01143-00259992-00260103 region
i-lfIDdVYSk-01144-00260104-00260279 at the end
i-lfIDdVYSk-01145-00260280-00260463 more importantly
i-lfIDdVYSk-01146-00260464-00260758 the concave helps confirming the rtn
i-lfIDdVYSk-01147-00260759-00260871 policy
i-lfIDdVYSk-01148-00260871-00261071 which in particular seeks through the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01149-00261071-00261415 regional engagement as well
i-lfIDdVYSk-01150-00261416-00261894 next please
i-lfIDdVYSk-01151-00261896-00262142 at the tactical level
i-lfIDdVYSk-01152-00262144-00262303 firstly
i-lfIDdVYSk-01153-00262304-00262591 every single maritime exercise leads to
i-lfIDdVYSk-01154-00262592-00262782 the high level of
i-lfIDdVYSk-01155-00262783-00262903 readiness
i-lfIDdVYSk-01156-00262904-00263095 the force readiness
i-lfIDdVYSk-01157-00263096-00263223 in terms of
i-lfIDdVYSk-01158-00263224-00263343 platforms
i-lfIDdVYSk-01159-00263344-00263615 tactics and personnel
i-lfIDdVYSk-01160-00263616-00263951 this fact i believe this is true
i-lfIDdVYSk-01161-00263952-00264327 this exercise helps us help us growing
i-lfIDdVYSk-01162-00264328-00264615 capability and partnerships in the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01163-00264616-00264967 pacific region the kakadu has helped us
i-lfIDdVYSk-01164-00264968-00265055 to
i-lfIDdVYSk-01165-00265056-00265358 develop our ability to cooperate well at
i-lfIDdVYSk-01166-00265359-00265615 sea
i-lfIDdVYSk-01167-00265616-00265943 our crews have the good opportunity
i-lfIDdVYSk-01168-00265944-00266279 to share the knowledge and experiences
i-lfIDdVYSk-01169-00266280-00266415 at seat
i-lfIDdVYSk-01170-00266416-00266710 at sea ranging from contemporary
i-lfIDdVYSk-01171-00266711-00266830 operations
i-lfIDdVYSk-01172-00266831-00267006 to the high
i-lfIDdVYSk-01173-00267007-00267375 to the high end maritime welfare
i-lfIDdVYSk-01174-00267376-00267679 in such a different environment
i-lfIDdVYSk-01175-00267680-00267887 more importantly
i-lfIDdVYSk-01176-00267888-00268182 we get more friends we make friends
i-lfIDdVYSk-01177-00268183-00268343 and we believe this is
i-lfIDdVYSk-01178-00268344-00268623 this will create a strong impact
i-lfIDdVYSk-01179-00268624-00268903 among the nations
i-lfIDdVYSk-01180-00268904-00269143 and we also believe that everyone will
i-lfIDdVYSk-01181-00269144-00269543 benefit from that kind of relations
i-lfIDdVYSk-01182-00269544-00269839 in the future
i-lfIDdVYSk-01183-00269840-00270015 please
i-lfIDdVYSk-01184-00270016-00270158 before i
i-lfIDdVYSk-01185-00270159-00270295 step down
i-lfIDdVYSk-01186-00270296-00270479 i would like to express
i-lfIDdVYSk-01187-00270480-00270855 some key takes aways as falling
i-lfIDdVYSk-01188-00270856-00270982 first
i-lfIDdVYSk-01189-00270983-00271271 on the rtn perspective
i-lfIDdVYSk-01190-00271272-00271630 the kakadu is fit for
i-lfIDdVYSk-01191-00271631-00271791 both
i-lfIDdVYSk-01192-00271792-00272063 strategic and tactical aspect
i-lfIDdVYSk-01193-00272064-00272199 we value
i-lfIDdVYSk-01194-00272200-00272534 it and you continue to participate this
i-lfIDdVYSk-01195-00272535-00272727 exercise
i-lfIDdVYSk-01196-00272728-00272823 second
i-lfIDdVYSk-01197-00272824-00272999 in order to make the calculate the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01198-00273000-00273287 greater exercise in the future
i-lfIDdVYSk-01199-00273288-00273519 we think that these
i-lfIDdVYSk-01200-00273520-00273775 falling areas of training
i-lfIDdVYSk-01201-00273776-00273903 will fit
i-lfIDdVYSk-01202-00273904-00274182 to the mind to the modern threat and
i-lfIDdVYSk-01203-00274183-00274382 security environment
i-lfIDdVYSk-01204-00274383-00274823 in the indo-pacific region today
i-lfIDdVYSk-01205-00274824-00274934 first
i-lfIDdVYSk-01206-00274935-00275287 the exercise planning for the hadr
i-lfIDdVYSk-01207-00275288-00275534 is one of the items that
i-lfIDdVYSk-01208-00275535-00275830 should be commonly considered
i-lfIDdVYSk-01209-00275831-00275958 second
i-lfIDdVYSk-01210-00275959-00276055 because
i-lfIDdVYSk-01211-00276056-00276334 the participants of kakadu
i-lfIDdVYSk-01212-00276335-00276551 come from different places
i-lfIDdVYSk-01213-00276552-00276791 and different environment
i-lfIDdVYSk-01214-00276792-00276910 so
i-lfIDdVYSk-01215-00276911-00277167 different people can have a vira variety
i-lfIDdVYSk-01216-00277168-00277471 of perspectives in the same issue
i-lfIDdVYSk-01217-00277472-00277647 and we think that
i-lfIDdVYSk-01218-00277648-00277943 the subject matter expert exchange
i-lfIDdVYSk-01219-00277944-00278295 will benefit to all of us
i-lfIDdVYSk-01220-00278296-00278558 the reason why we propose this idea
i-lfIDdVYSk-01221-00278559-00278927 because the sme work very well
i-lfIDdVYSk-01222-00278928-00279215 and effective in the caprico
i-lfIDdVYSk-01223-00279216-00279710 multilateral exercise that we in charge
i-lfIDdVYSk-01224-00279711-00279799 third
i-lfIDdVYSk-01225-00279800-00279999 the maritime contingency planning
i-lfIDdVYSk-01226-00280000-00280143 exercise is
i-lfIDdVYSk-01227-00280144-00280239 another
i-lfIDdVYSk-01228-00280240-00280606 interesting point for us
i-lfIDdVYSk-01229-00280607-00280910 well ladies and gentlemen i come to my
i-lfIDdVYSk-01230-00280911-00281103 conclusion
i-lfIDdVYSk-01231-00281104-00281415 the rtn had a strong intention to be an
i-lfIDdVYSk-01232-00281416-00281751 effective regional security partner
i-lfIDdVYSk-01233-00281752-00281975 in the indo-pacific region
i-lfIDdVYSk-01234-00281976-00282223 and we believe that maritime cooperation
i-lfIDdVYSk-01235-00282224-00282463 is a key factor
i-lfIDdVYSk-01236-00282464-00282882 to a safe and secure environment in our
i-lfIDdVYSk-01237-00282883-00283110 region and to us
i-lfIDdVYSk-01238-00283111-00283391 the kakadu exercise fit for our
i-lfIDdVYSk-01239-00283392-00283695 strategic and tactical requirement
i-lfIDdVYSk-01240-00283696-00283927 once again thank you very much for
i-lfIDdVYSk-01241-00283928-00284063 letting me hear
i-lfIDdVYSk-01242-00284064-00284254 and i'm happy to share some thoughts
i-lfIDdVYSk-01243-00284255-00284367 with you guys
i-lfIDdVYSk-01244-00284368-00284543 through the q a session thank you very
i-lfIDdVYSk-01245-00284544-00284632 much
i-lfIDdVYSk-01246-00284633-00285271 [Applause]
i-lfIDdVYSk-01247-00285272-00285575 okay we're going to go into a q a
i-lfIDdVYSk-01248-00285576-00285791 session we've got opportunity for the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01249-00285792-00285982 questions to come online
i-lfIDdVYSk-01250-00285983-00286319 uh through the yeah
i-lfIDdVYSk-01251-00286320-00286479 uh but while we're waiting for the uh
i-lfIDdVYSk-01252-00286480-00286710 the first of the questions to come up
i-lfIDdVYSk-01253-00286711-00286967 perhaps i might ask a question of the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01254-00286968-00287279 chair uh i throw to you peter
i-lfIDdVYSk-01255-00287280-00287463 given the um
i-lfIDdVYSk-01256-00287464-00287606 different perspectives to come through
i-lfIDdVYSk-01257-00287607-00287758 and the complexity of
i-lfIDdVYSk-01258-00287759-00287982 of uh you know our geopolitical region
i-lfIDdVYSk-01259-00287983-00288175 the indo-pacific and all the interests
i-lfIDdVYSk-01260-00288176-00288415 of the nations participating
i-lfIDdVYSk-01261-00288416-00288558 where do you see
i-lfIDdVYSk-01262-00288559-00288879 the power of the narrative the idea that
i-lfIDdVYSk-01263-00288880-00289191 joins us all together plays out you know
i-lfIDdVYSk-01264-00289192-00289471 across the globe and how is it viewed
i-lfIDdVYSk-01265-00289472-00289663 from others who may not be part of that
i-lfIDdVYSk-01266-00289664-00289854 partnership
i-lfIDdVYSk-01267-00289855-00290015 that's a that's a really fascinating
i-lfIDdVYSk-01268-00290016-00290254 question and i think narratives are
i-lfIDdVYSk-01269-00290255-00290503 really um important concepts whether
i-lfIDdVYSk-01270-00290504-00290751 we're talking about political narratives
i-lfIDdVYSk-01271-00290752-00290910 international relations narratives
i-lfIDdVYSk-01272-00290911-00291151 regional narratives they play into this
i-lfIDdVYSk-01273-00291152-00291375 concept of how we understand the region
i-lfIDdVYSk-01274-00291376-00291551 and how we engage with the region and i
i-lfIDdVYSk-01275-00291552-00291758 think exercises such as kakadu and
i-lfIDdVYSk-01276-00291759-00291999 multilateral exercises and we've seen
i-lfIDdVYSk-01277-00292000-00292143 we've heard from all of the speakers
i-lfIDdVYSk-01278-00292144-00292334 today that talk about
i-lfIDdVYSk-01279-00292335-00292487 the role and importance of international
i-lfIDdVYSk-01280-00292488-00292654 engagement and forming partnerships and
i-lfIDdVYSk-01281-00292655-00292887 friendships and the maintaining of order
i-lfIDdVYSk-01282-00292888-00293182 at sea and also references to hadr
i-lfIDdVYSk-01283-00293183-00293351 operations and those types of things if
i-lfIDdVYSk-01284-00293352-00293567 we have a conception i think of the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01285-00293568-00293671 region
i-lfIDdVYSk-01286-00293672-00293863 where navies and military services work
i-lfIDdVYSk-01287-00293864-00294063 in partnership with each other for for a
i-lfIDdVYSk-01288-00294064-00294287 sense of a greater common good as we we
i-lfIDdVYSk-01289-00294288-00294487 heard about before i think that's a
i-lfIDdVYSk-01290-00294488-00294671 powerful inflective on the way that we
i-lfIDdVYSk-01291-00294672-00294782 more broadly understand the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01292-00294783-00294943 international relations of the region
i-lfIDdVYSk-01293-00294944-00295119 and of course we know throughout history
i-lfIDdVYSk-01294-00295120-00295319 that um cooperation is much better than
i-lfIDdVYSk-01295-00295320-00295527 competition we often and we know we're
i-lfIDdVYSk-01296-00295528-00295671 in an era now where we're having both
i-lfIDdVYSk-01297-00295672-00295847 cooperation and competition playing out
i-lfIDdVYSk-01298-00295848-00296039 at the same time so what we're getting i
i-lfIDdVYSk-01299-00296040-00296206 think is competing narratives in that
i-lfIDdVYSk-01300-00296207-00296303 space
i-lfIDdVYSk-01301-00296304-00296495 and the more that we can emphasize that
i-lfIDdVYSk-01302-00296496-00296710 cooperation level of engagement more
i-lfIDdVYSk-01303-00296711-00297015 that we hold exercises like this
i-lfIDdVYSk-01304-00297016-00297167 that puts out there that what we're
i-lfIDdVYSk-01305-00297168-00297391 we're looking towards is that engagement
i-lfIDdVYSk-01306-00297392-00297606 piece and i think i referred to justin's
i-lfIDdVYSk-01307-00297607-00297734 piece here was talking about you and
i-lfIDdVYSk-01308-00297735-00297887 graham's comment about
i-lfIDdVYSk-01309-00297888-00298191 i was reflecting on the cult of the sea
i-lfIDdVYSk-01310-00298192-00298367 so i'm not sure where i sit in the cold
i-lfIDdVYSk-01311-00298368-00298527 of the sea i'm the only one not wearing
i-lfIDdVYSk-01312-00298528-00298758 a uniform on this panel for a start
i-lfIDdVYSk-01313-00298759-00299103 in 1993 at the when the first kakadu uh
i-lfIDdVYSk-01314-00299104-00299310 joined i actually uh joined the army so
i-lfIDdVYSk-01315-00299311-00299454 i was wearing a different colored
i-lfIDdVYSk-01316-00299455-00299575 uniform
i-lfIDdVYSk-01317-00299576-00299791 and i'm an academic and now and not a
i-lfIDdVYSk-01318-00299792-00300039 naval officer although i will save in my
i-lfIDdVYSk-01319-00300040-00300239 own defense for the cult of the sea my
i-lfIDdVYSk-01320-00300240-00300439 one of my key areas of expertise at the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01321-00300440-00300671 moment is amphibious warfare and i write
i-lfIDdVYSk-01322-00300672-00300863 a lot about that and spend as much time
i-lfIDdVYSk-01323-00300864-00301079 as i can on two very large ran ships
i-lfIDdVYSk-01324-00301080-00301287 where i can humanly possibly do
i-lfIDdVYSk-01325-00301288-00301487 and uh and i also can claim you know the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01326-00301488-00301654 fact my sister's a naval officer so i
i-lfIDdVYSk-01327-00301655-00301847 can you know gust in the bask in the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01328-00301848-00302023 white glory of the shine of the uniform
i-lfIDdVYSk-01329-00302024-00302134 sometimes
i-lfIDdVYSk-01330-00302135-00302247 um
i-lfIDdVYSk-01331-00302248-00302543 uh and and as a good academic uh does
i-lfIDdVYSk-01332-00302544-00302863 why this was going i did look up uh uh
i-lfIDdVYSk-01333-00302864-00303095 what sort of cults mean in the sociology
i-lfIDdVYSk-01334-00303096-00303279 in the oxford academic manual of
i-lfIDdVYSk-01335-00303280-00303527 sociology and we do have three types of
i-lfIDdVYSk-01336-00303528-00303719 cults so it'd be interesting for us to
i-lfIDdVYSk-01337-00303720-00303871 reflect on what the cult of the sea is
i-lfIDdVYSk-01338-00303872-00304047 those three types of cold is a mystical
i-lfIDdVYSk-01339-00304048-00304319 orientated illumination cult
i-lfIDdVYSk-01340-00304320-00304495 an instrumental type which gives inner
i-lfIDdVYSk-01341-00304496-00304703 experience is sought for its effects or
i-lfIDdVYSk-01342-00304704-00304927 a service orientated type which is
i-lfIDdVYSk-01343-00304928-00305134 focused on aiding others now the last
i-lfIDdVYSk-01344-00305135-00305263 one may seem
i-lfIDdVYSk-01345-00305264-00305463 relevant but reflecting on how navy's
i-lfIDdVYSk-01346-00305464-00305599 work i think any one of those three
i-lfIDdVYSk-01347-00305600-00305863 could potentially work there as well
i-lfIDdVYSk-01348-00305864-00306087 but to get just to swing back around to
i-lfIDdVYSk-01349-00306088-00306327 where you were i think
i-lfIDdVYSk-01350-00306328-00306599 that that cult orientation if it is
i-lfIDdVYSk-01351-00306600-00306815 about service orientated types of cult
i-lfIDdVYSk-01352-00306816-00307103 that's fading on aiding focused on
i-lfIDdVYSk-01353-00307104-00307254 hating others i think that's a really
i-lfIDdVYSk-01354-00307255-00307399 good imperative to come back to where
i-lfIDdVYSk-01355-00307400-00307591 your question started if we're working
i-lfIDdVYSk-01356-00307592-00307806 on an international environment with a
i-lfIDdVYSk-01357-00307807-00308006 narrative that's around about aiding
i-lfIDdVYSk-01358-00308007-00308134 others and working together as a
i-lfIDdVYSk-01359-00308135-00308310 community that's a really positive way
i-lfIDdVYSk-01360-00308311-00308503 to reinforce the stability i think of
i-lfIDdVYSk-01361-00308504-00308703 the international environment
i-lfIDdVYSk-01362-00308704-00308982 okay thank you
i-lfIDdVYSk-01363-00308983-00309063 the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01364-00309064-00309351 first question is to captain buncha from
i-lfIDdVYSk-01365-00309352-00309527 thailand
i-lfIDdVYSk-01366-00309528-00309758 i guess given the relatively complex of
i-lfIDdVYSk-01367-00309759-00309999 your geography with maritime interests
i-lfIDdVYSk-01368-00310000-00310223 in the indian ocean south china sea
i-lfIDdVYSk-01369-00310224-00310463 complex land borders
i-lfIDdVYSk-01370-00310464-00310591 and that
i-lfIDdVYSk-01371-00310592-00310758 could you please just expand a little
i-lfIDdVYSk-01372-00310759-00310934 bit further on where thailand sees
i-lfIDdVYSk-01373-00310935-00311182 strategic value of its participation in
i-lfIDdVYSk-01374-00311183-00311767 kakadu
i-lfIDdVYSk-01375-00311768-00312047 thank you for thank you for the question
i-lfIDdVYSk-01376-00312048-00312234 from our
i-lfIDdVYSk-01377-00312235-00312606 geography we stand
i-lfIDdVYSk-01378-00312607-00312854 in the middle of the two oceans
i-lfIDdVYSk-01379-00312855-00313006 and
i-lfIDdVYSk-01380-00313007-00313175 of course
i-lfIDdVYSk-01381-00313176-00313295 our
i-lfIDdVYSk-01382-00313296-00313599 our rtn policy
i-lfIDdVYSk-01383-00313600-00314006 and strategic thought is um two or three
i-lfIDdVYSk-01384-00314007-00314127 triple a
i-lfIDdVYSk-01385-00314128-00314343 two oceans three areas
i-lfIDdVYSk-01386-00314344-00314606 and
i-lfIDdVYSk-01387-00314607-00314887 i think i think that um joining the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01388-00314888-00315191 kakadu exercise have
i-lfIDdVYSk-01389-00315192-00315287 something
i-lfIDdVYSk-01390-00315288-00315367 like
i-lfIDdVYSk-01391-00315368-00315534 related to
i-lfIDdVYSk-01392-00315535-00315695 our
i-lfIDdVYSk-01393-00315696-00315895 strategic value
i-lfIDdVYSk-01394-00315896-00316127 as as i addressed earlier
i-lfIDdVYSk-01395-00316128-00316447 on
i-lfIDdVYSk-01396-00316448-00316663 and i think and i think that and i think
i-lfIDdVYSk-01397-00316664-00316758 that
i-lfIDdVYSk-01398-00316759-00317006 maritime cooperation as i mentioned is
i-lfIDdVYSk-01399-00317007-00317303 is a key for us and and
i-lfIDdVYSk-01400-00317304-00317551 and show our true value for the regional
i-lfIDdVYSk-01401-00317552-00318023 partner in the pacific region
i-lfIDdVYSk-01402-00318024-00318310 thank you i i guess just to follow from
i-lfIDdVYSk-01403-00318311-00318543 that um perhaps admiral jones if i could
i-lfIDdVYSk-01404-00318544-00318719 draw on your previous history as a com
i-lfIDdVYSk-01405-00318720-00318839 train
i-lfIDdVYSk-01406-00318840-00319095 uh and as uh the j3
i-lfIDdVYSk-01407-00319096-00319343 in uh captain bunchan's chat he was
i-lfIDdVYSk-01408-00319344-00319599 talking at towards the end about
i-lfIDdVYSk-01409-00319600-00319710 some of the things i would like to see
i-lfIDdVYSk-01410-00319711-00319919 in the future the contingency planning
i-lfIDdVYSk-01411-00319920-00320199 and subject matter exchange the sme
i-lfIDdVYSk-01412-00320200-00320303 aspects
i-lfIDdVYSk-01413-00320304-00320575 where do you see that value in what your
i-lfIDdVYSk-01414-00320576-00320719 observations are the most effective
i-lfIDdVYSk-01415-00320720-00320910 training tools and opportunities that we
i-lfIDdVYSk-01416-00320911-00321143 we sometimes just let go or we haven't
i-lfIDdVYSk-01417-00321144-00321727 learned our lessons of the past
i-lfIDdVYSk-01418-00321728-00321991 yeah thanks for that andrew
i-lfIDdVYSk-01419-00321992-00322134 so
i-lfIDdVYSk-01420-00322135-00322406 i guess uh
i-lfIDdVYSk-01421-00322407-00322606 i might i might frame my response as
i-lfIDdVYSk-01422-00322607-00322887 being uh one of the challenges in fact
i-lfIDdVYSk-01423-00322888-00323110 that that kakadu has always presented to
i-lfIDdVYSk-01424-00323111-00323423 planners which i put i actually planned
i-lfIDdVYSk-01425-00323424-00323687 as a dorothy dixon but um your your
i-lfIDdVYSk-01426-00323688-00323863 question kind of meets the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01427-00323864-00324206 the criteria in in that
i-lfIDdVYSk-01428-00324207-00324471 kakadu has given the the number of
i-lfIDdVYSk-01429-00324472-00324647 different uh
i-lfIDdVYSk-01430-00324648-00324782 nations and navies that have
i-lfIDdVYSk-01431-00324783-00324958 participated
i-lfIDdVYSk-01432-00324959-00325182 and from the geographies areas that
i-lfIDdVYSk-01433-00325183-00325430 they've all come together off the north
i-lfIDdVYSk-01434-00325431-00325703 coast of darwin to participate
i-lfIDdVYSk-01435-00325704-00325895 has always presented some conundrums for
i-lfIDdVYSk-01436-00325896-00326054 exercise planners
i-lfIDdVYSk-01437-00326055-00326367 in terms of where to put vessels how to
i-lfIDdVYSk-01438-00326368-00326606 how to split minor war vessels that may
i-lfIDdVYSk-01439-00326607-00326815 not necessarily have certain
i-lfIDdVYSk-01440-00326816-00327047 capabilities be it sense of fit or
i-lfIDdVYSk-01441-00327048-00327271 weapons where do you put the major
i-lfIDdVYSk-01442-00327272-00327599 vessels that do have
i-lfIDdVYSk-01443-00327600-00327903 much higher capabilities how do you
i-lfIDdVYSk-01444-00327904-00328158 exercise those higher capabilities for
i-lfIDdVYSk-01445-00328159-00328439 some with sensitive sensors and and
i-lfIDdVYSk-01446-00328440-00328639 weapons particularly when submarines are
i-lfIDdVYSk-01447-00328640-00328791 participating
i-lfIDdVYSk-01448-00328792-00329023 that's always been a challenge for the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01449-00329024-00329182 kakadu planners
i-lfIDdVYSk-01450-00329183-00329423 i saw that firsthand as as commander
i-lfIDdVYSk-01451-00329424-00329647 plans
i-lfIDdVYSk-01452-00329648-00329958 and then to to the point of the question
i-lfIDdVYSk-01453-00329959-00330175 how do you ensure that everybody gets
i-lfIDdVYSk-01454-00330176-00330558 something from the activity which is um
i-lfIDdVYSk-01455-00330559-00330758 as outlined by our thai colleague you
i-lfIDdVYSk-01456-00330759-00330958 know hadr
i-lfIDdVYSk-01457-00330959-00331206 which everybody has to deal with at some
i-lfIDdVYSk-01458-00331207-00331343 point
i-lfIDdVYSk-01459-00331344-00331695 subject matter expert exchanges
i-lfIDdVYSk-01460-00331696-00331854 contingency
i-lfIDdVYSk-01461-00331855-00332182 exercises to prepare us for the next uh
i-lfIDdVYSk-01462-00332183-00332447 be it international or domestic
i-lfIDdVYSk-01463-00332448-00332639 disaster
i-lfIDdVYSk-01464-00332640-00332943 it can be done but it it takes
i-lfIDdVYSk-01465-00332944-00333110 it takes careful preparation in the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01466-00333111-00333367 planning process to
i-lfIDdVYSk-01467-00333368-00333478 work out
i-lfIDdVYSk-01468-00333479-00333703 the different dimensions to the exercise
i-lfIDdVYSk-01469-00333704-00333919 the different geographic locations to
i-lfIDdVYSk-01470-00333920-00334119 conduct those activities
i-lfIDdVYSk-01471-00334120-00334247 but
i-lfIDdVYSk-01472-00334248-00334495 i guess my overall comment is
i-lfIDdVYSk-01473-00334496-00334863 you you cannot discount the value
i-lfIDdVYSk-01474-00334864-00335143 of getting any number of international
i-lfIDdVYSk-01475-00335144-00335303 navies together
i-lfIDdVYSk-01476-00335304-00335575 in the same place at the same time
i-lfIDdVYSk-01477-00335576-00335791 to do these to do these things there
i-lfIDdVYSk-01478-00335792-00335951 will always be
i-lfIDdVYSk-01479-00335952-00336151 different nations will always have their
i-lfIDdVYSk-01480-00336152-00336375 own sovereign objectives from an
i-lfIDdVYSk-01481-00336376-00336615 activity and planners do their best to
i-lfIDdVYSk-01482-00336616-00336887 try and accommodate that
i-lfIDdVYSk-01483-00336888-00336982 but
i-lfIDdVYSk-01484-00336983-00337254 there is there is value in almost all
i-lfIDdVYSk-01485-00337255-00337454 training and i think we in australia
i-lfIDdVYSk-01486-00337455-00337630 have certainly seen over the last two
i-lfIDdVYSk-01487-00337631-00337799 years
i-lfIDdVYSk-01488-00337800-00338030 how much our our own defence force is
i-lfIDdVYSk-01489-00338031-00338230 being drawn into
i-lfIDdVYSk-01490-00338231-00338447 support for
i-lfIDdVYSk-01491-00338448-00338727 disaster relief be it domestically or
i-lfIDdVYSk-01492-00338728-00338895 regionally
i-lfIDdVYSk-01493-00338896-00339071 and the value as you've correctly
i-lfIDdVYSk-01494-00339072-00339287 pointed out in in actually training for
i-lfIDdVYSk-01495-00339288-00339478 that with other navies
i-lfIDdVYSk-01496-00339479-00340282 not just
i-lfIDdVYSk-01497-00340283-00340591 ourselves wouldn't mind going to um
i-lfIDdVYSk-01498-00340592-00340775 captain mario next
i-lfIDdVYSk-01499-00340776-00341047 uh during yours you talked on quite a
i-lfIDdVYSk-01500-00341048-00341254 diverse range of malaysian needs and
i-lfIDdVYSk-01501-00341255-00341415 expectations of obviously growing up
i-lfIDdVYSk-01502-00341416-00341671 over 30 years of kakadu
i-lfIDdVYSk-01503-00341672-00341895 from uh force modernization accelerating
i-lfIDdVYSk-01504-00341896-00342110 defense diplomacy deterrence and
i-lfIDdVYSk-01505-00342111-00342230 response
i-lfIDdVYSk-01506-00342231-00342439 um and also a keenness to do some
i-lfIDdVYSk-01507-00342440-00342678 observation and benchmarking
i-lfIDdVYSk-01508-00342679-00342751 so
i-lfIDdVYSk-01509-00342752-00342943 over the time how do you think your
i-lfIDdVYSk-01510-00342944-00343215 expectations as as a navy have changed
i-lfIDdVYSk-01511-00343216-00343382 of what you want
i-lfIDdVYSk-01512-00343383-00343543 and have we got the balance right
i-lfIDdVYSk-01513-00343544-00343727 between shore time
i-lfIDdVYSk-01514-00343728-00343991 experiences the you know the admiral
i-lfIDdVYSk-01515-00343992-00344158 jones was talking about the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01516-00344159-00344415 the table tops and the exercise stuff
i-lfIDdVYSk-01517-00344416-00344647 versus the at sea components so just
i-lfIDdVYSk-01518-00344648-00344863 some observations or where where future
i-lfIDdVYSk-01519-00344864-00345127 exercise planners might take things okay
i-lfIDdVYSk-01520-00345128-00345295 all right thank you thank you sir for
i-lfIDdVYSk-01521-00345296-00345487 the question uh
i-lfIDdVYSk-01522-00345488-00345654 basically for malaysia i think we are
i-lfIDdVYSk-01523-00345655-00346030 very lucky uh we are in the fpda so we
i-lfIDdVYSk-01524-00346031-00346230 got a lot of engagement with the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01525-00346231-00346527 australians uk new zealand and singapore
i-lfIDdVYSk-01526-00346528-00346830 so exercise kakadu is just
i-lfIDdVYSk-01527-00346831-00347103 an additional exercise but where this
i-lfIDdVYSk-01528-00347104-00347454 exercise is done out of our waters so
i-lfIDdVYSk-01529-00347455-00347639 there's an additional
i-lfIDdVYSk-01530-00347640-00347847 input there where we have to do
i-lfIDdVYSk-01531-00347848-00348054 what they call logistics and all that
i-lfIDdVYSk-01532-00348055-00348567 but as you said that
i-lfIDdVYSk-01533-00348568-00348878 whether it's access fpda or kakadu port
i-lfIDdVYSk-01534-00348879-00349223 of this gives us a lot of a lot of
i-lfIDdVYSk-01535-00349224-00349399 experience and
i-lfIDdVYSk-01536-00349400-00349543 and uh
i-lfIDdVYSk-01537-00349544-00349806 right now from where we started we we
i-lfIDdVYSk-01538-00349807-00349958 started as just
i-lfIDdVYSk-01539-00349959-00350247 ships participating now we have got uh
i-lfIDdVYSk-01540-00350248-00350582 personnel involved in your planning also
i-lfIDdVYSk-01541-00350583-00350782 so that that is the advantage now that
i-lfIDdVYSk-01542-00350783-00351143 we have that we are now one of your
i-lfIDdVYSk-01543-00351144-00351391 in in your planning groups to to conduct
i-lfIDdVYSk-01544-00351392-00351582 these exercises and when we bring back
i-lfIDdVYSk-01545-00351583-00351815 those experiences back
i-lfIDdVYSk-01546-00351816-00352030 we we are able to conduct our own
i-lfIDdVYSk-01547-00352031-00352206 exercises and
i-lfIDdVYSk-01548-00352207-00352454 bilateral exercises that we have
i-lfIDdVYSk-01549-00352455-00352558 so
i-lfIDdVYSk-01550-00352559-00352943 i think we are fortunate very fortunate
i-lfIDdVYSk-01551-00352944-00353239 compared to the others around the region
i-lfIDdVYSk-01552-00353240-00353327 okay
i-lfIDdVYSk-01553-00353328-00353495 thank you
i-lfIDdVYSk-01554-00353496-00353671 uh chair while i'm waiting for a few
i-lfIDdVYSk-01555-00353672-00353887 more to come in online uh perhaps you've
i-lfIDdVYSk-01556-00353888-00354039 got some uh questions at the panel
i-lfIDdVYSk-01557-00354040-00354278 members yeah um that that would be great
i-lfIDdVYSk-01558-00354279-00354510 so i think um just thinking about the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01559-00354511-00354775 panel i i think i might start at the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01560-00354776-00354934 sort of higher end of the strategic
i-lfIDdVYSk-01561-00354935-00355110 environment question so
i-lfIDdVYSk-01562-00355111-00355343 in a little bit of research i did in
i-lfIDdVYSk-01563-00355344-00355630 1993 at the end of the exercise our
i-lfIDdVYSk-01564-00355631-00355854 defense minister robert ray made a sort
i-lfIDdVYSk-01565-00355855-00356039 of statement stating that after the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01566-00356040-00356247 first exercise of australian relations
i-lfIDdVYSk-01567-00356248-00356471 with the asia pacific nations we're
i-lfIDdVYSk-01568-00356472-00356639 going to be as important
i-lfIDdVYSk-01569-00356640-00356927 into the future as they are back in 1993
i-lfIDdVYSk-01570-00356928-00357151 with the united states of america i
i-lfIDdVYSk-01571-00357152-00357303 suppose to put the the good admiral to
i-lfIDdVYSk-01572-00357304-00357478 my left here you know you can always ask
i-lfIDdVYSk-01573-00357479-00357615 strategic questions of admirals that's
i-lfIDdVYSk-01574-00357616-00357815 what they get paid the big bucks for
i-lfIDdVYSk-01575-00357816-00357895 um
i-lfIDdVYSk-01576-00357896-00358063 you know reflecting on that in recent
i-lfIDdVYSk-01577-00358064-00358191 years we've had obviously the orcas
i-lfIDdVYSk-01578-00358192-00358334 announcement we've had announcements of
i-lfIDdVYSk-01579-00358335-00358495 integrated deterrence we've got u.s
i-lfIDdVYSk-01580-00358496-00358695 marines in darwin and a commitment in
i-lfIDdVYSk-01581-00358696-00358910 the last osmond meeting to significant
i-lfIDdVYSk-01582-00358911-00359119 increases in forced posture with the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01583-00359120-00359334 united states including more u.s naval
i-lfIDdVYSk-01584-00359335-00359639 assets at hmas sterling and stuff so i
i-lfIDdVYSk-01585-00359640-00359734 think
i-lfIDdVYSk-01586-00359735-00359943 how does that relate to that growing
i-lfIDdVYSk-01587-00359944-00360167 sort of sentiment from from minister ray
i-lfIDdVYSk-01588-00360168-00360358 way back then and 30 years on and sort
i-lfIDdVYSk-01589-00360359-00360495 of how does that reflect to the i think
i-lfIDdVYSk-01590-00360496-00360710 the advances you laid out in your paper
i-lfIDdVYSk-01591-00360711-00361039 about how kakadu has gone in terms of of
i-lfIDdVYSk-01592-00361040-00361206 building relations with southeast asian
i-lfIDdVYSk-01593-00361207-00361367 nations and how those things balance out
i-lfIDdVYSk-01594-00361368-00361639 against each other
i-lfIDdVYSk-01595-00361640-00361943 yeah it's interesting because
i-lfIDdVYSk-01596-00361944-00362119 my comments were on the strategic review
i-lfIDdVYSk-01597-00362120-00362423 of 1993 which talked about
i-lfIDdVYSk-01598-00362424-00362727 regional and in particular asia pacific
i-lfIDdVYSk-01599-00362728-00363063 importance and regional cooperation
i-lfIDdVYSk-01600-00363064-00363295 i think every white paper has made
i-lfIDdVYSk-01601-00363296-00363551 similar remarks
i-lfIDdVYSk-01602-00363552-00363863 but it's not a zero-sum game so
i-lfIDdVYSk-01603-00363864-00364127 to use the colloquialism we can walk and
i-lfIDdVYSk-01604-00364128-00364447 chew gum at the same time
i-lfIDdVYSk-01605-00364448-00364719 having our own activity like kakadu
i-lfIDdVYSk-01606-00364720-00364991 enables us to bring together
i-lfIDdVYSk-01607-00364992-00365278 nations of our region which is important
i-lfIDdVYSk-01608-00365279-00365471 to australia but it doesn't detract from
i-lfIDdVYSk-01609-00365472-00365687 the fact that our main ally
i-lfIDdVYSk-01610-00365688-00365863 remains
i-lfIDdVYSk-01611-00365864-00366047 and most significant ally remains the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01612-00366048-00366215 united states
i-lfIDdVYSk-01613-00366216-00366406 of america
i-lfIDdVYSk-01614-00366407-00366687 what what is interesting i think is that
i-lfIDdVYSk-01615-00366688-00366934 up until 2016
i-lfIDdVYSk-01616-00366935-00367039 the u.s
i-lfIDdVYSk-01617-00367040-00367543 was deliberately not invited to kakadu
i-lfIDdVYSk-01618-00367544-00367791 for the very reason that we wish to
i-lfIDdVYSk-01619-00367792-00368030 focus on on our regional relationships
i-lfIDdVYSk-01620-00368031-00368278 at that activity
i-lfIDdVYSk-01621-00368279-00368503 i don't have the background or
i-lfIDdVYSk-01622-00368504-00368743 understanding why the us was invited in
i-lfIDdVYSk-01623-00368744-00368910 in 2016
i-lfIDdVYSk-01624-00368911-00369023 um
i-lfIDdVYSk-01625-00369024-00369303 uh but but they were and uh to my
i-lfIDdVYSk-01626-00369304-00369463 knowledge that was the first time they
i-lfIDdVYSk-01627-00369464-00369623 they participated
i-lfIDdVYSk-01628-00369624-00369767 but uh
i-lfIDdVYSk-01629-00369768-00369887 yeah
i-lfIDdVYSk-01630-00369888-00370087 the crux of my cracks with my answer is
i-lfIDdVYSk-01631-00370088-00370167 uh
i-lfIDdVYSk-01632-00370168-00370327 you don't have to
i-lfIDdVYSk-01633-00370328-00370575 uh it's not one or the other either aura
i-lfIDdVYSk-01634-00370576-00370847 you can do both
i-lfIDdVYSk-01635-00370848-00370919 um
i-lfIDdVYSk-01636-00370920-00371127 if it's all right i'll i'll continue
i-lfIDdVYSk-01637-00371128-00371430 over to our entire colleague and um
i-lfIDdVYSk-01638-00371431-00371599 you've ex you've been involved in
i-lfIDdVYSk-01639-00371600-00371815 exercises uh cobra gold as you mentioned
i-lfIDdVYSk-01640-00371816-00372063 in your paper that's a that's a key part
i-lfIDdVYSk-01641-00372064-00372278 of the engagement that the royal thai
i-lfIDdVYSk-01642-00372279-00372391 navy does
i-lfIDdVYSk-01643-00372392-00372558 could you maybe give us an out sort of
i-lfIDdVYSk-01644-00372559-00372806 an outline of how cobra gold works in
i-lfIDdVYSk-01645-00372807-00372927 relation to what you've heard about
i-lfIDdVYSk-01646-00372928-00373151 kakadu the the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01647-00373152-00373367 aims and goals and purpose of an
i-lfIDdVYSk-01648-00373368-00373527 approach to that similar to the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01649-00373528-00373743 experience of what you as a navy kind of
i-lfIDdVYSk-01650-00373744-00373878 have one of your key international
i-lfIDdVYSk-01651-00373879-00374278 engagement events that you run
i-lfIDdVYSk-01652-00374279-00374663 thank you very much peter i'm
i-lfIDdVYSk-01653-00374664-00374871 talking about my experience in cover
i-lfIDdVYSk-01654-00374872-00374967 goals
i-lfIDdVYSk-01655-00374968-00375215 um three times if i
i-lfIDdVYSk-01656-00375216-00375343 if i
i-lfIDdVYSk-01657-00375344-00375519 if i remember
i-lfIDdVYSk-01658-00375520-00375815 because of it's a long time ago
i-lfIDdVYSk-01659-00375816-00376295 for my roles in joining cover goals
i-lfIDdVYSk-01660-00376296-00376591 many roles ranging from the navigation
i-lfIDdVYSk-01661-00376592-00376727 officers
i-lfIDdVYSk-01662-00376728-00376847 on the ship
i-lfIDdVYSk-01663-00376848-00377151 and to the staff planning officer
i-lfIDdVYSk-01664-00377152-00377399 in a tabletop exercise
i-lfIDdVYSk-01665-00377400-00377534 and
i-lfIDdVYSk-01666-00377535-00377751 how does it work
i-lfIDdVYSk-01667-00377752-00377943 or
i-lfIDdVYSk-01668-00377944-00378254 how that copper gold contributes to our
i-lfIDdVYSk-01669-00378255-00378495 mission
i-lfIDdVYSk-01670-00378496-00378723 talking about the number first
i-lfIDdVYSk-01671-00378724-00379143 [Music]
i-lfIDdVYSk-01672-00379144-00379391 we witnessed the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01673-00379392-00379487 the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01674-00379488-00379799 the more participants
i-lfIDdVYSk-01675-00379800-00380095 every time we we
i-lfIDdVYSk-01676-00380096-00380351 we conduct that exercise
i-lfIDdVYSk-01677-00380352-00380623 and we believe that the number of
i-lfIDdVYSk-01678-00380624-00380799 the participants
i-lfIDdVYSk-01679-00380800-00380895 will
i-lfIDdVYSk-01680-00380896-00381182 continually increasing in the in the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01681-00381183-00381367 future
i-lfIDdVYSk-01682-00381368-00381678 and
i-lfIDdVYSk-01683-00381679-00381839 in another aspect
i-lfIDdVYSk-01684-00381840-00382039 i think that from that number
i-lfIDdVYSk-01685-00382040-00382287 what can we learn or what is the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01686-00382288-00382527 implication from that i think that in
i-lfIDdVYSk-01687-00382528-00382758 terms of strategic level
i-lfIDdVYSk-01688-00382759-00382871 um
i-lfIDdVYSk-01689-00382872-00383039 the environment
i-lfIDdVYSk-01690-00383040-00383310 the scary environment today
i-lfIDdVYSk-01691-00383311-00383527 uh situation situation in the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01692-00383528-00383902 indo-pacific change so fast and more
i-lfIDdVYSk-01693-00383903-00384039 players
i-lfIDdVYSk-01694-00384040-00384382 come to play and maybe exercise that
i-lfIDdVYSk-01695-00384383-00384782 influence in the in the pacific region
i-lfIDdVYSk-01696-00384783-00385030 and i believe that that
i-lfIDdVYSk-01697-00385031-00385302 a kind of exercise multilateral exercise
i-lfIDdVYSk-01698-00385303-00385606 such as capricorn that we we have the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01699-00385607-00385878 experience or can could do
i-lfIDdVYSk-01700-00385879-00386063 i believe that that
i-lfIDdVYSk-01701-00386064-00386254 this kind of thing is a
i-lfIDdVYSk-01702-00386255-00386615 key effective and key mechanism to to
i-lfIDdVYSk-01703-00386616-00386758 secure
i-lfIDdVYSk-01704-00386759-00387127 um the the and stabilize the the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01705-00387128-00387382 environment security environment in in
i-lfIDdVYSk-01706-00387383-00387639 in the pacific regions this is a
i-lfIDdVYSk-01707-00387640-00388134 in in a strategic perspective
i-lfIDdVYSk-01708-00388135-00388439 uh ivan i might uh throw over to you and
i-lfIDdVYSk-01709-00388440-00388630 get down we've talked about
i-lfIDdVYSk-01710-00388631-00388806 uh exercises and strategy i might get
i-lfIDdVYSk-01711-00388807-00389015 down to the tactical level for a second
i-lfIDdVYSk-01712-00389016-00389206 you you mentioned that you were on the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01713-00389207-00389295 first
i-lfIDdVYSk-01714-00389296-00389527 of the uh of the exercises uh back when
i-lfIDdVYSk-01715-00389528-00389710 you had hair as you said
i-lfIDdVYSk-01716-00389711-00389863 um i wonder if you can talk to us a
i-lfIDdVYSk-01717-00389864-00390078 little bit about um you know
i-lfIDdVYSk-01718-00390079-00390295 what type of vessel were you on a vessel
i-lfIDdVYSk-01719-00390296-00390463 what type of vest we served on what type
i-lfIDdVYSk-01720-00390464-00390623 of activities did you really get
i-lfIDdVYSk-01721-00390624-00390815 involved in we justin mentioned it was
i-lfIDdVYSk-01722-00390816-00390982 the sort of a division of responsibility
i-lfIDdVYSk-01723-00390983-00391182 for planners so what did you get
i-lfIDdVYSk-01724-00391183-00391382 involved in was that you know asw was
i-lfIDdVYSk-01725-00391383-00391654 the hadr damage control operations and
i-lfIDdVYSk-01726-00391655-00391839 in what ways did that really test your
i-lfIDdVYSk-01727-00391840-00392039 crew and your ship in its capabilities
i-lfIDdVYSk-01728-00392040-00392215 and what sort of value from a tactical
i-lfIDdVYSk-01729-00392216-00392334 point of view did you get out of being
i-lfIDdVYSk-01730-00392335-00392623 on this exercise right i was personally
i-lfIDdVYSk-01731-00392624-00392910 involved in kakadu 2001
i-lfIDdVYSk-01732-00392911-00393134 so
i-lfIDdVYSk-01733-00393135-00393471 we brought the new frigate it was fresh
i-lfIDdVYSk-01734-00393472-00393910 from uk we came back in 2000 uh 1999
i-lfIDdVYSk-01735-00393911-00394063 so the frigate
i-lfIDdVYSk-01736-00394064-00394295 well new ship new toy everything was
i-lfIDdVYSk-01737-00394296-00394663 singing and dancing so we joined a 2001
i-lfIDdVYSk-01738-00394664-00394878 kakadu and
i-lfIDdVYSk-01739-00394879-00395191 we had uh we we were managed we managed
i-lfIDdVYSk-01740-00395192-00395534 to uh utilize all the equipment on board
i-lfIDdVYSk-01741-00395535-00395702 our ship
i-lfIDdVYSk-01742-00395703-00395854 uh we we
i-lfIDdVYSk-01743-00395855-00396078 exercise with your sophisticated ship
i-lfIDdVYSk-01744-00396079-00396375 and the best uh i think among the best
i-lfIDdVYSk-01745-00396376-00396543 exercise that we had
i-lfIDdVYSk-01746-00396544-00396719 was uh the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01747-00396720-00396854 in
i-lfIDdVYSk-01748-00396855-00397102 enter interdiction
i-lfIDdVYSk-01749-00397103-00397430 so we we managed i mean
i-lfIDdVYSk-01750-00397431-00397847 in ews and as the air warfare officer
i-lfIDdVYSk-01751-00397848-00398110 i gained a lot from the end correction
i-lfIDdVYSk-01752-00398111-00398254 video
i-lfIDdVYSk-01753-00398255-00398415 i think uh your
i-lfIDdVYSk-01754-00398416-00398654 triple ones f triple ones were the ones
i-lfIDdVYSk-01755-00398655-00398758 that were
i-lfIDdVYSk-01756-00398759-00398927 operational yeah
i-lfIDdVYSk-01757-00398928-00399127 at that time so it was a new new
i-lfIDdVYSk-01758-00399128-00399278 aircraft for us
i-lfIDdVYSk-01759-00399279-00399663 you know and it really proved our system
i-lfIDdVYSk-01760-00399664-00399967 one and uh besides that uh
i-lfIDdVYSk-01761-00399968-00400199 having spent 11 days in darwin so i
i-lfIDdVYSk-01762-00400200-00400447 think
i-lfIDdVYSk-01763-00400448-00400639 we we were involved in a lot of your
i-lfIDdVYSk-01764-00400640-00400863 cultural activities one
i-lfIDdVYSk-01765-00400864-00400958 and
i-lfIDdVYSk-01766-00400959-00401175 uh besides that uh the engagement
i-lfIDdVYSk-01767-00401176-00401454 between uh my sailors and
i-lfIDdVYSk-01768-00401455-00401702 uh the australians we had a lot of other
i-lfIDdVYSk-01769-00401703-00401934 activities organized by the australian
i-lfIDdVYSk-01770-00401935-00402175 for us so we we get to we got to know
i-lfIDdVYSk-01771-00402176-00402471 about your culture that is on social but
i-lfIDdVYSk-01772-00402472-00402743 on the world first part i think uh like
i-lfIDdVYSk-01773-00402744-00402991 any other exercise uh the serials that
i-lfIDdVYSk-01774-00402992-00403134 we've gone through
i-lfIDdVYSk-01775-00403135-00403495 uh it's it's packed prospect so
i-lfIDdVYSk-01776-00403496-00403671 didn't have much sleep but we enjoyed
i-lfIDdVYSk-01777-00403672-00403863 the exercise
i-lfIDdVYSk-01778-00403864-00403951 that's
i-lfIDdVYSk-01779-00403952-00404071 a common theme i think being on
i-lfIDdVYSk-01780-00404072-00404327 operations is uh driving as many people
i-lfIDdVYSk-01781-00404328-00404510 as humanly possible of sleep at any one
i-lfIDdVYSk-01782-00404511-00404767 given time did you want
i-lfIDdVYSk-01783-00404768-00404991 um i would like to add my comment to
i-lfIDdVYSk-01784-00404992-00405391 this question um at tactical level
i-lfIDdVYSk-01785-00405392-00405695 um everyone may know that that the rtn
i-lfIDdVYSk-01786-00405696-00405767 is
i-lfIDdVYSk-01787-00405768-00406054 getting a new submarine from from china
i-lfIDdVYSk-01788-00406055-00406310 and this area
i-lfIDdVYSk-01789-00406311-00406463 i mean the uh
i-lfIDdVYSk-01790-00406464-00406751 anti-submarine warfare operation is one
i-lfIDdVYSk-01791-00406752-00407063 of the key areas that we are focusing
i-lfIDdVYSk-01792-00407064-00407406 and try to to develop our capital
i-lfIDdVYSk-01793-00407407-00407663 capabilities of this so i think that
i-lfIDdVYSk-01794-00407664-00407910 from the past kakadu um
i-lfIDdVYSk-01795-00407911-00408287 the rtn has especially focused on the uh
i-lfIDdVYSk-01796-00408288-00408558 anti-submarine warfare operations and i
i-lfIDdVYSk-01797-00408559-00408815 i talked to the crews uh that that they
i-lfIDdVYSk-01798-00408816-00409110 said it works and and they benefit from
i-lfIDdVYSk-01799-00409111-00409478 that
i-lfIDdVYSk-01800-00409479-00409639 um
i-lfIDdVYSk-01801-00409639-00409759 just double check there's nothing for
i-lfIDdVYSk-01802-00409760-00410295 the floor but um
i-lfIDdVYSk-01803-00410296-00410495 yeah g'day perhaps john earl of japanese
i-lfIDdVYSk-01804-00410496-00410726 fleet commander here's my questions
i-lfIDdVYSk-01805-00410727-00410974 across to the panel um
i-lfIDdVYSk-01806-00410975-00411134 and i know adam jones will probably have
i-lfIDdVYSk-01807-00411135-00411255 a view on this
i-lfIDdVYSk-01808-00411256-00411478 i think kakadu is getting to a point now
i-lfIDdVYSk-01809-00411479-00411663 after everything we need to introduce
i-lfIDdVYSk-01810-00411664-00411926 more civil military type agencies to
i-lfIDdVYSk-01811-00411927-00412103 participate
i-lfIDdVYSk-01812-00412104-00412295 more formally
i-lfIDdVYSk-01813-00412296-00413359 thank you to your comments on that
i-lfIDdVYSk-01814-00413360-00413487 yeah i was going to defer to my
i-lfIDdVYSk-01815-00413488-00413663 colleagues first i've definitely got a
i-lfIDdVYSk-01816-00413664-00413959 point of view on that uh you
i-lfIDdVYSk-01817-00413960-00414207 uh asking if uh
i-lfIDdVYSk-01818-00414208-00414399 civil agencies were to be involved in
i-lfIDdVYSk-01819-00414400-00414718 this exercise
i-lfIDdVYSk-01820-00414719-00414878 um
i-lfIDdVYSk-01821-00414879-00415199 personally well far from for me i don't
i-lfIDdVYSk-01822-00415200-00415407 think so
i-lfIDdVYSk-01823-00415408-00415614 because
i-lfIDdVYSk-01824-00415615-00415855 we don't see the relevance of
i-lfIDdVYSk-01825-00415856-00416070 engagement with your civil
i-lfIDdVYSk-01826-00416071-00416222 authority
i-lfIDdVYSk-01827-00416223-00416447 unlike in fpda
i-lfIDdVYSk-01828-00416447-00416614 when you come over to malaysia and
i-lfIDdVYSk-01829-00416615-00416734 singapore
i-lfIDdVYSk-01830-00416735-00416839 yes
i-lfIDdVYSk-01831-00416839-00417134 there is a requirement for you to know
i-lfIDdVYSk-01832-00417135-00417263 [Music]
i-lfIDdVYSk-01833-00417264-00417478 our internal security is
i-lfIDdVYSk-01834-00417479-00417695 uh by the police it's not the armed
i-lfIDdVYSk-01835-00417696-00417855 forces
i-lfIDdVYSk-01836-00417856-00418159 and in the navy we operate our
i-lfIDdVYSk-01837-00418160-00418391 jurisdiction is more than a territorial
i-lfIDdVYSk-01838-00418392-00418678 waters up to 200 nautical miles within
i-lfIDdVYSk-01839-00418679-00418847 turtle waters is the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01840-00418847-00419263 police and the maritime agency
i-lfIDdVYSk-01841-00419264-00419343 so
i-lfIDdVYSk-01842-00419343-00419551 that would be beneficial for you all if
i-lfIDdVYSk-01843-00419552-00419751 you all come to fpda for us but for us
i-lfIDdVYSk-01844-00419752-00420103 if we come here i think there's not much
i-lfIDdVYSk-01845-00420104-00420318 you know we come once three days to
i-lfIDdVYSk-01846-00420319-00420447 exercise
i-lfIDdVYSk-01847-00420447-00420703 so i i don't see the relevance
i-lfIDdVYSk-01848-00420704-00420879 to having that
i-lfIDdVYSk-01849-00420880-00421366 maybe in hdr yeah we could we could uh
i-lfIDdVYSk-01850-00421367-00421663 how we want we might want to know how
i-lfIDdVYSk-01851-00421664-00421822 how does your civil
i-lfIDdVYSk-01852-00421823-00422118 operations uh come into effect during
i-lfIDdVYSk-01853-00422119-00422270 hdr
i-lfIDdVYSk-01854-00422271-00422463 besides the military
i-lfIDdVYSk-01855-00422464-00422710 you know so in terms of maybe logistic
i-lfIDdVYSk-01856-00422712-00422903 supplies
i-lfIDdVYSk-01857-00422904-00423199 the rules and regulations and your your
i-lfIDdVYSk-01858-00423200-00423399 your laws
i-lfIDdVYSk-01859-00423400-00423639 but other than that if uh consider us
i-lfIDdVYSk-01860-00423639-00423791 coming here and
i-lfIDdVYSk-01861-00423792-00423959 um wanting to get involved with your
i-lfIDdVYSk-01862-00423960-00424207 civil churches i don't think i don't see
i-lfIDdVYSk-01863-00424208-00424807 any relevance to that
i-lfIDdVYSk-01864-00424808-00425039 thank you very much for for this
i-lfIDdVYSk-01865-00425039-00425183 interesting question
i-lfIDdVYSk-01866-00425184-00425279 um
i-lfIDdVYSk-01867-00425280-00425695 the way i i would like to to address
i-lfIDdVYSk-01868-00425696-00425839 your question is
i-lfIDdVYSk-01869-00425839-00426039 i would like to share my experience in
i-lfIDdVYSk-01870-00426039-00426166 thailand
i-lfIDdVYSk-01871-00426167-00426463 about the social media in thailand
i-lfIDdVYSk-01872-00426464-00426718 in terms of
i-lfIDdVYSk-01873-00426719-00426918 acquisition
i-lfIDdVYSk-01874-00426919-00427214 i am
i-lfIDdVYSk-01875-00427215-00427543 of the comments uh happens in in in
i-lfIDdVYSk-01876-00427543-00427775 social media in thailand ask
i-lfIDdVYSk-01877-00427776-00428047 us about how the people can
i-lfIDdVYSk-01878-00428047-00428295 get again
i-lfIDdVYSk-01879-00428296-00428751 from your acquisition or buying weapons
i-lfIDdVYSk-01880-00428752-00428927 can you explain to us
i-lfIDdVYSk-01881-00428928-00429263 which is our
i-lfIDdVYSk-01882-00429264-00429375 problem
i-lfIDdVYSk-01883-00429376-00429559 it's kind of problematic
i-lfIDdVYSk-01884-00429560-00429783 and
i-lfIDdVYSk-01885-00429784-00430007 i would like to to send some i would
i-lfIDdVYSk-01886-00430008-00430510 like to to to talk that
i-lfIDdVYSk-01887-00430512-00430822 to your question i think that how this
i-lfIDdVYSk-01888-00430823-00431055 is our challenge to to
i-lfIDdVYSk-01889-00431056-00431383 uh explain to the people that that the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01890-00431384-00431655 relevance between the military operation
i-lfIDdVYSk-01891-00431656-00431895 and and the civil operation siemic
i-lfIDdVYSk-01892-00431896-00432014 operation
i-lfIDdVYSk-01893-00432015-00432166 is
i-lfIDdVYSk-01894-00432167-00432422 maybe good for for for the way to
i-lfIDdVYSk-01895-00432423-00432791 explain to the people that okay you guys
i-lfIDdVYSk-01896-00432792-00433183 going overseas and you do something and
i-lfIDdVYSk-01897-00433184-00433343 maybe
i-lfIDdVYSk-01898-00433343-00433470 it is the way
i-lfIDdVYSk-01899-00433471-00433679 maybe the way to to explain to the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01900-00433680-00433966 people on shore that that that
i-lfIDdVYSk-01901-00433967-00434270 how how they gain from from our exercise
i-lfIDdVYSk-01902-00434271-00434607 something like that
i-lfIDdVYSk-01903-00434608-00434791 uh admiral jones perhaps you've got a
i-lfIDdVYSk-01904-00434792-00434951 perspective consider we've got the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01905-00434952-00435207 integrated campaigning concept as well
i-lfIDdVYSk-01906-00435208-00435375 yeah and that's actually what i was
i-lfIDdVYSk-01907-00435376-00435655 thinking of too um
i-lfIDdVYSk-01908-00435656-00435879 i've just come from two years at joint
i-lfIDdVYSk-01909-00435880-00436247 operations command where
i-lfIDdVYSk-01910-00436247-00436414 the idea of
i-lfIDdVYSk-01911-00436415-00436639 whole of government is is certainly no
i-lfIDdVYSk-01912-00436639-00436799 longer a cliche
i-lfIDdVYSk-01913-00436800-00437014 it's a lived experience in almost all
i-lfIDdVYSk-01914-00437015-00437222 operations we do
i-lfIDdVYSk-01915-00437223-00437327 um
i-lfIDdVYSk-01916-00437328-00437599 it's never just military for australia
i-lfIDdVYSk-01917-00437600-00437847 anymore in the australian context
i-lfIDdVYSk-01918-00437847-00438159 rarely just military there's
i-lfIDdVYSk-01919-00438160-00438414 other agencies government agencies
i-lfIDdVYSk-01920-00438415-00438679 civilians public servants involved
i-lfIDdVYSk-01921-00438680-00438927 which might surprise some people
i-lfIDdVYSk-01922-00438928-00439022 but
i-lfIDdVYSk-01923-00439023-00439318 at all levels in almost everything we do
i-lfIDdVYSk-01924-00439319-00439470 including on the ground in foreign
i-lfIDdVYSk-01925-00439471-00439583 countries
i-lfIDdVYSk-01926-00439584-00439743 so
i-lfIDdVYSk-01927-00439743-00440047 i think that that that is a model for
i-lfIDdVYSk-01928-00440047-00440310 australia and it is worth uh showcasing
i-lfIDdVYSk-01929-00440312-00440663 that perhaps in exercises like kakadu
i-lfIDdVYSk-01930-00440664-00440870 re exercises based around regional
i-lfIDdVYSk-01931-00440871-00441014 cooperation we always have to have a
i-lfIDdVYSk-01932-00441015-00441239 mind on what other countries that we are
i-lfIDdVYSk-01933-00441239-00441510 inviting to participate want to get out
i-lfIDdVYSk-01934-00441512-00441799 of the activity but they're also a great
i-lfIDdVYSk-01935-00441800-00441857 way to
i-lfIDdVYSk-01936-00441858-00442063 [Music]
i-lfIDdVYSk-01937-00442064-00442431 to show how other nations do do business
i-lfIDdVYSk-01938-00442432-00442599 so i think there's there's absolutely
i-lfIDdVYSk-01939-00442600-00442751 room to
i-lfIDdVYSk-01940-00442752-00443031 um to do that and hadr kind of springs
i-lfIDdVYSk-01941-00443032-00443263 to mind really given recent experiences
i-lfIDdVYSk-01942-00443264-00443351 but
i-lfIDdVYSk-01943-00443352-00443439 um
i-lfIDdVYSk-01944-00443439-00443607 there's domestic and international
i-lfIDdVYSk-01945-00443608-00443791 context for that
i-lfIDdVYSk-01946-00443792-00444183 um so you know even if it was part of in
i-lfIDdVYSk-01947-00444184-00444366 the kakadu
i-lfIDdVYSk-01948-00444367-00444591 the kakadu way even if it was part of a
i-lfIDdVYSk-01949-00444592-00444751 topic for the regional commanders
i-lfIDdVYSk-01950-00444752-00444927 conference um
i-lfIDdVYSk-01951-00444928-00445110 uh which you'll be hosting this year i
i-lfIDdVYSk-01952-00445112-00445207 assume
i-lfIDdVYSk-01953-00445208-00445455 uh you might want to do that um and
i-lfIDdVYSk-01954-00445456-00445735 frame it around hadr and subject matter
i-lfIDdVYSk-01955-00445735-00446039 experts uh and the like and and have
i-lfIDdVYSk-01956-00446039-00446279 you know typically at those we invite
i-lfIDdVYSk-01957-00446280-00446527 um i think it's traditionally been
i-lfIDdVYSk-01958-00446528-00446759 in the few we've had you know academics
i-lfIDdVYSk-01959-00446760-00446943 and think tankers
i-lfIDdVYSk-01960-00446943-00447231 that's not a bad thing at all but maybe
i-lfIDdVYSk-01961-00447232-00447470 we could expand that to
i-lfIDdVYSk-01962-00447471-00447670 other agencies
i-lfIDdVYSk-01963-00447671-00447870 everything from our
i-lfIDdVYSk-01964-00447871-00448079 charitable organizations
i-lfIDdVYSk-01965-00448080-00448366 world food programs whoever they are
i-lfIDdVYSk-01966-00448367-00448591 that we do typically connect with on the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01967-00448592-00448943 ground when we're doing hadr work in far
i-lfIDdVYSk-01968-00448943-00449103 away places
i-lfIDdVYSk-01969-00449104-00449366 i think there'd be value in that
i-lfIDdVYSk-01970-00449367-00449470 um
i-lfIDdVYSk-01971-00449471-00449655 i think i won't throw to peter for
i-lfIDdVYSk-01972-00449656-00449783 probably the last question unless
i-lfIDdVYSk-01973-00449784-00449991 there's any others for the floor well
i-lfIDdVYSk-01974-00449992-00450247 if you if you don't mind i might indulge
i-lfIDdVYSk-01975-00450247-00450455 on an academic answer to the question or
i-lfIDdVYSk-01976-00450456-00450591 at least an academic's perspective on
i-lfIDdVYSk-01977-00450592-00450991 the question and i say this having in my
i-lfIDdVYSk-01978-00450992-00451151 current and previous roles actually been
i-lfIDdVYSk-01979-00451152-00451335 on some adf exercises embedded into
i-lfIDdVYSk-01980-00451335-00451503 headquarters and stuff
i-lfIDdVYSk-01981-00451504-00451614 um
i-lfIDdVYSk-01982-00451615-00451927 and i'll refer initially here to um the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01983-00451928-00452103 now unfortunately late brennan sergeant
i-lfIDdVYSk-01984-00452104-00452279 who wrote a really interesting piece
i-lfIDdVYSk-01985-00452280-00452527 only recently before he passed about
i-lfIDdVYSk-01986-00452528-00452670 the need for greater strategic
i-lfIDdVYSk-01987-00452671-00452814 imagination
i-lfIDdVYSk-01988-00452815-00452991 and i think utilizing that strategic
i-lfIDdVYSk-01989-00452992-00453214 imagination and particularly referencing
i-lfIDdVYSk-01990-00453215-00453447 to justin's notion about hatr and the
i-lfIDdVYSk-01991-00453447-00453614 importance that out that our colleagues
i-lfIDdVYSk-01992-00453615-00453903 have placed around that hdr component of
i-lfIDdVYSk-01993-00453904-00454070 these exercises
i-lfIDdVYSk-01994-00454071-00454295 and layering into that the reality of
i-lfIDdVYSk-01995-00454296-00454431 climate change
i-lfIDdVYSk-01996-00454432-00454695 like you know we often talk in australia
i-lfIDdVYSk-01997-00454696-00454910 about the threat pose which is being
i-lfIDdVYSk-01998-00454912-00455175 dominated a bit in our election cycle of
i-lfIDdVYSk-01999-00455176-00455287 light of
i-lfIDdVYSk-02000-00455288-00455535 of uh china in the region
i-lfIDdVYSk-02001-00455535-00455783 and uh we may all you know we may or may
i-lfIDdVYSk-02002-00455784-00455991 not get into a conflict with that or
i-lfIDdVYSk-02003-00455992-00456159 other countries in the region but we do
i-lfIDdVYSk-02004-00456160-00456310 know that climate change is happening we
i-lfIDdVYSk-02005-00456312-00456479 do know it's real and we do know it's
i-lfIDdVYSk-02006-00456480-00456710 here so it's it's a natural strategic
i-lfIDdVYSk-02007-00456712-00456831 reality we're all going to live with
i-lfIDdVYSk-02008-00456832-00457070 that's going to drive further hadr type
i-lfIDdVYSk-02009-00457071-00457263 operations and the engagement and
i-lfIDdVYSk-02010-00457264-00457447 intersection between those operations
i-lfIDdVYSk-02011-00457447-00457591 and the involvement it's just instead of
i-lfIDdVYSk-02012-00457592-00457766 civilian agencies whether they're
i-lfIDdVYSk-02013-00457767-00457966 domestic civilian agencies or actually
i-lfIDdVYSk-02014-00457967-00458159 international agencies as well
i-lfIDdVYSk-02015-00458160-00458303 and i think if we have a little bit more
i-lfIDdVYSk-02016-00458304-00458503 strategic imagination and we think about
i-lfIDdVYSk-02017-00458504-00458718 some scenario planning on how we build
i-lfIDdVYSk-02018-00458719-00458863 these exercises i think there's a
i-lfIDdVYSk-02019-00458864-00459047 there's a great room to build that in
i-lfIDdVYSk-02020-00459047-00459335 and it can be either you know showcasing
i-lfIDdVYSk-02021-00459335-00459503 what we do in australia is justin said
i-lfIDdVYSk-02022-00459504-00459703 or depending on whether exercise is
i-lfIDdVYSk-02023-00459704-00459839 located in the nearby neighboring
i-lfIDdVYSk-02024-00459839-00460031 countries such as indonesia and other
i-lfIDdVYSk-02025-00460032-00460191 how we could have a scenario that that
i-lfIDdVYSk-02026-00460192-00460359 looks at something say the border
i-lfIDdVYSk-02027-00460360-00460510 intersection or the crosses over those
i-lfIDdVYSk-02028-00460512-00460647 boundaries where you could actually work
i-lfIDdVYSk-02029-00460647-00460831 across that and how do you exercise and
i-lfIDdVYSk-02030-00460832-00461022 across civilian exercises interrelated
i-lfIDdVYSk-02031-00461023-00461214 to that a little bit imagination around
i-lfIDdVYSk-02032-00461215-00461327 that
i-lfIDdVYSk-02033-00461328-00461510 can easily bring us to a plausible
i-lfIDdVYSk-02034-00461512-00461663 scenario i think
i-lfIDdVYSk-02035-00461664-00461910 where particularly for hadr operations
i-lfIDdVYSk-02036-00461912-00462087 and we've you know we've seen historical
i-lfIDdVYSk-02037-00462088-00462303 experience of this with tsunamis and
i-lfIDdVYSk-02038-00462304-00462518 other things that we um happen in in the
i-lfIDdVYSk-02039-00462519-00462639 region so
i-lfIDdVYSk-02040-00462639-00462791 my personal view looking at it from an
i-lfIDdVYSk-02041-00462792-00462966 academic strategic policy point of view
i-lfIDdVYSk-02042-00462967-00463159 and and attempting to do that great
i-lfIDdVYSk-02043-00463160-00463375 crystal ball mysticism that those of us
i-lfIDdVYSk-02044-00463376-00463510 in strategic studies do about what the
i-lfIDdVYSk-02045-00463512-00463647 future looks like
i-lfIDdVYSk-02046-00463647-00463751 you know
i-lfIDdVYSk-02047-00463752-00463983 taking a given like climate change given
i-lfIDdVYSk-02048-00463984-00464159 like we've seen the expansion of hado
i-lfIDdVYSk-02049-00464160-00464318 operations for all militaries around the
i-lfIDdVYSk-02050-00464319-00464487 region i think that would be a really
i-lfIDdVYSk-02051-00464488-00464727 good way to both showcase and also
i-lfIDdVYSk-02052-00464728-00464910 potentially integrate other
i-lfIDdVYSk-02053-00464912-00465103 international agencies into that
i-lfIDdVYSk-02054-00465104-00465295 particular effort and well even if it's
i-lfIDdVYSk-02055-00465296-00465455 just in a conversation how would this
i-lfIDdVYSk-02056-00465456-00465551 work
i-lfIDdVYSk-02057-00465552-00465679 or if you have people from those
i-lfIDdVYSk-02058-00465680-00465887 international agencies well if this was
i-lfIDdVYSk-02059-00465888-00466095 a scenario and you had to be involved
i-lfIDdVYSk-02060-00466096-00466222 what would your perspective what would
i-lfIDdVYSk-02061-00466223-00466439 you be asking the military to do or what
i-lfIDdVYSk-02062-00466439-00466575 would you be asking the governments to
i-lfIDdVYSk-02063-00466576-00466710 coordinate across
i-lfIDdVYSk-02064-00466712-00466959 and i think that's a really would be a
i-lfIDdVYSk-02065-00466960-00467183 really interesting way to evolve
i-lfIDdVYSk-02066-00467184-00467359 these series of operations and i kind of
i-lfIDdVYSk-02067-00467360-00467510 look at doing a little bit of reading i
i-lfIDdVYSk-02068-00467512-00467695 think it was the second kakadu exercise
i-lfIDdVYSk-02069-00467696-00467870 where it started off with you know
i-lfIDdVYSk-02070-00467871-00468014 the fleet coming into harbor is one
i-lfIDdVYSk-02071-00468015-00468255 component of it it was a slow steady
i-lfIDdVYSk-02072-00468256-00468431 build of um
i-lfIDdVYSk-02073-00468432-00468639 of the exercises amongst the ships until
i-lfIDdVYSk-02074-00468639-00468791 we eventually got to a division kind of
i-lfIDdVYSk-02075-00468792-00469031 a three-sided potential conflict amongst
i-lfIDdVYSk-02076-00469032-00469183 the different types and capabilities of
i-lfIDdVYSk-02077-00469184-00469391 the fleets you could easily see that
i-lfIDdVYSk-02078-00469392-00469775 start from a hodr operation then to well
i-lfIDdVYSk-02079-00469776-00469983 we know if climate change gets to
i-lfIDdVYSk-02080-00469984-00470166 particular reasons we could see conflict
i-lfIDdVYSk-02081-00470167-00470391 or competition over resources and stuff
i-lfIDdVYSk-02082-00470392-00470551 so you could easily i think weave that
i-lfIDdVYSk-02083-00470552-00470783 into something with with non-state
i-lfIDdVYSk-02084-00470784-00470975 actors as was discussed as well and what
i-lfIDdVYSk-02085-00470976-00471151 role they may play
i-lfIDdVYSk-02086-00471152-00471279 okay
i-lfIDdVYSk-02087-00471280-00471431 thank you very much
i-lfIDdVYSk-02088-00471432-00471518 um
i-lfIDdVYSk-02089-00471519-00471783 i think we might pause it there unless
i-lfIDdVYSk-02090-00471784-00472022 there's any last questions
i-lfIDdVYSk-02091-00472023-00472183 thank you very much for joining us for
i-lfIDdVYSk-02092-00472184-00472318 uh panel one
i-lfIDdVYSk-02093-00472319-00472518 uh if uh those in the audience could
i-lfIDdVYSk-02094-00472519-00472710 please show your appreciation for the
i-lfIDdVYSk-02095-00472712-00473399 panel speakers this morning
i-lfIDdVYSk-02096-00473400-00473679 okay the the conference will take a
i-lfIDdVYSk-02097-00473680-00473895 30-minute break before we start session
i-lfIDdVYSk-02098-00473896-00474103 two which is kakadu evolves that will
i-lfIDdVYSk-02099-00474104-00475303 start at 10 30. thank you very much
i-lfIDdVYSk-02100-00475304-00475512 you
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iBlQORm7iku-00037-00008447-00008542 show you
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iBlQORm7iku-00068-00015423-00015747 great day
iBz4-nzRH9k-00000-00000024-00000223 started
iBz4-nzRH9k-00001-00000224-00000503 great thank you so the session is now
iBz4-nzRH9k-00002-00000504-00000695 being recorded
iBz4-nzRH9k-00003-00000696-00000911 i wanted to briefly go through our
iBz4-nzRH9k-00004-00000911-00001143 agenda for today's session we will have
iBz4-nzRH9k-00005-00001144-00001415 uh 10 minutes presentations by each of
iBz4-nzRH9k-00006-00001416-00001566 the panelists
iBz4-nzRH9k-00007-00001567-00001655 and
iBz4-nzRH9k-00008-00001655-00001855 after that we
iBz4-nzRH9k-00009-00001855-00002231 you can ask questions for the panelists
iBz4-nzRH9k-00010-00002232-00002342 and
iBz4-nzRH9k-00011-00002343-00002623 i think as we are only eight
iBz4-nzRH9k-00012-00002624-00002855 of us we can
iBz4-nzRH9k-00013-00002856-00003039 do the discussion around in the main
iBz4-nzRH9k-00014-00003040-00003254 room we thought we would do breakouts
iBz4-nzRH9k-00015-00003255-00003431 but i think that's
iBz4-nzRH9k-00016-00003432-00003751 not necessary for us today
iBz4-nzRH9k-00017-00003752-00004006 so i'm very excited to welcome our four
iBz4-nzRH9k-00018-00004007-00004335 panelists uh for today's session uh
iBz4-nzRH9k-00019-00004336-00004583 nader brock from university of oslo
iBz4-nzRH9k-00020-00004584-00004751 michael landy
iBz4-nzRH9k-00021-00004752-00005054 from in bioinformatics hub of kenya and
iBz4-nzRH9k-00022-00005055-00005327 martin dreyer from northwest university
iBz4-nzRH9k-00023-00005328-00005638 and myself
iBz4-nzRH9k-00024-00005639-00005902 we asked our panelists to present on an
iBz4-nzRH9k-00025-00005903-00006118 overview of coventry's activities in
iBz4-nzRH9k-00026-00006119-00006406 their organization or region projects
iBz4-nzRH9k-00027-00006408-00006623 that their regional sub-communities are
iBz4-nzRH9k-00028-00006623-00006823 working on and challenges they have
iBz4-nzRH9k-00029-00006823-00007078 experienced in their community region as
iBz4-nzRH9k-00030-00007079-00007287 it relates to the work of the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00031-00007288-00007487 carpentries
iBz4-nzRH9k-00032-00007488-00007878 um i will start with my presentation and
iBz4-nzRH9k-00033-00007879-00008078 then we'll hand over to
iBz4-nzRH9k-00034-00008079-00008255 legs afterwards
iBz4-nzRH9k-00035-00008256-00008471 um and as i said if you have any
iBz4-nzRH9k-00036-00008472-00008703 questions during the presentations
iBz4-nzRH9k-00037-00008704-00008935 please use the ether pad to collect them
iBz4-nzRH9k-00038-00008936-00009239 so we can discuss them afterwards
iBz4-nzRH9k-00039-00009240-00009863 before i start do you have any questions
iBz4-nzRH9k-00040-00009864-00010119 i also
iBz4-nzRH9k-00041-00010120-00011174 paste the ether pad again for you
iBz4-nzRH9k-00042-00011175-00011319 okay so
iBz4-nzRH9k-00043-00011320-00011910 then i will start by sharing my screen
iBz4-nzRH9k-00044-00011911-00012631 can you see my presentation
iBz4-nzRH9k-00045-00012632-00013071 yes we can cool
iBz4-nzRH9k-00046-00013072-00013303 all right so i mentioned briefly that
iBz4-nzRH9k-00047-00013304-00013511 i'm currently the regional coordinator
iBz4-nzRH9k-00048-00013512-00013735 at the carpentries for the duck region
iBz4-nzRH9k-00049-00013736-00013958 that means i support the organization of
iBz4-nzRH9k-00050-00013959-00014143 workshops in germany austria and
iBz4-nzRH9k-00051-00014144-00014279 switzerland
iBz4-nzRH9k-00052-00014280-00014447 i also
iBz4-nzRH9k-00053-00014447-00014671 help with all kind of questions about
iBz4-nzRH9k-00054-00014672-00014815 the carpentries
iBz4-nzRH9k-00055-00014816-00015079 and i'm there as a contact person for
iBz4-nzRH9k-00056-00015080-00015311 the region i also work as a data
iBz4-nzRH9k-00057-00015312-00015535 librarian at sapi met the information
iBz4-nzRH9k-00058-00015536-00015727 center for life sciences in cologne
iBz4-nzRH9k-00059-00015728-00015871 germany
iBz4-nzRH9k-00060-00015872-00016103 here i'm also responsible for our
iBz4-nzRH9k-00061-00016104-00016238 training
iBz4-nzRH9k-00062-00016240-00016422 for example generating training
iBz4-nzRH9k-00063-00016423-00016630 materials organizing workshops and
iBz4-nzRH9k-00064-00016631-00016799 running them with my instructor
iBz4-nzRH9k-00065-00016800-00017030 colleagues
iBz4-nzRH9k-00066-00017031-00017207 i would like to briefly share with you
iBz4-nzRH9k-00067-00017208-00017463 some information about our region or our
iBz4-nzRH9k-00068-00017464-00017727 regions we currently have about 200
iBz4-nzRH9k-00069-00017728-00018007 instructors in the dhak region and about
iBz4-nzRH9k-00070-00018008-00018391 100 of them are located in germany
iBz4-nzRH9k-00071-00018392-00018558 most of them are library and software
iBz4-nzRH9k-00072-00018559-00018791 carpentry instructors it's at least
iBz4-nzRH9k-00073-00018792-00019111 that's their batch they got and we also
iBz4-nzRH9k-00074-00019112-00019383 have about five trainers the ones that
iBz4-nzRH9k-00075-00019384-00019727 train the instructors
iBz4-nzRH9k-00076-00019728-00019911 due to the fact that the community is
iBz4-nzRH9k-00077-00019912-00020127 already relatively large and the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00078-00020128-00020407 workshops have been held for years
iBz4-nzRH9k-00079-00020408-00020647 we see at least in our institution more
iBz4-nzRH9k-00080-00020648-00020911 and more demand for advanced workshops
iBz4-nzRH9k-00081-00020912-00021150 this is where the carpentry's incubator
iBz4-nzRH9k-00082-00021151-00021535 helps us at my institution the country's
iBz4-nzRH9k-00083-00021536-00021775 incubator is a place for collaborative
iBz4-nzRH9k-00084-00021776-00022055 development of new lessons it provides a
iBz4-nzRH9k-00085-00022056-00022278 space for the carpentry's community to
iBz4-nzRH9k-00086-00022279-00022550 create tests and improve lessons
iBz4-nzRH9k-00087-00022551-00022775 supported by the system
iBz4-nzRH9k-00088-00022776-00023039 uh processes and training that foster
iBz4-nzRH9k-00089-00023040-00023255 collaboration and enable better lesson
iBz4-nzRH9k-00090-00023256-00023558 design there are now also many lessons
iBz4-nzRH9k-00091-00023559-00023719 in development that
iBz4-nzRH9k-00092-00023720-00024014 um are for advanced workshops for
iBz4-nzRH9k-00093-00024015-00024222 example intermediate research software
iBz4-nzRH9k-00094-00024223-00024439 development skills and python lesson
iBz4-nzRH9k-00095-00024440-00024847 material which we really like to use
iBz4-nzRH9k-00096-00024848-00025071 for now
iBz4-nzRH9k-00097-00025072-00025335 and in our workshops we find especially
iBz4-nzRH9k-00098-00025336-00025631 in the library company workshops that
iBz4-nzRH9k-00099-00025632-00025894 it is incredibly important to understand
iBz4-nzRH9k-00100-00025895-00026134 each other so instructors
iBz4-nzRH9k-00101-00026135-00026390 because of their expertise often tend to
iBz4-nzRH9k-00102-00026391-00026607 use technical terms that learners don't
iBz4-nzRH9k-00103-00026608-00026807 understand because they haven't been
iBz4-nzRH9k-00104-00026808-00026999 exposed to the topics
iBz4-nzRH9k-00105-00027000-00027207 and this is why we are now happy to
iBz4-nzRH9k-00106-00027208-00027518 participate in the glosario project
iBz4-nzRH9k-00107-00027519-00027839 closerio is a multilingual glossary from
iBz4-nzRH9k-00108-00027839-00028095 the carpentries for terms related to the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00109-00028095-00028255 computer science
iBz4-nzRH9k-00110-00028256-00028502 and data science and everyone can
iBz4-nzRH9k-00111-00028504-00028711 participate in the glossary
iBz4-nzRH9k-00112-00028712-00028855 via github
iBz4-nzRH9k-00113-00028856-00029151 the idea is to make closerio available
iBz4-nzRH9k-00114-00029152-00029462 to the learners to quickly look up terms
iBz4-nzRH9k-00115-00029463-00029911 during or after a workshop
iBz4-nzRH9k-00116-00029912-00030199 i was also asked about challenges within
iBz4-nzRH9k-00117-00030200-00030414 our region i can speak from two
iBz4-nzRH9k-00118-00030416-00030590 perspectives on
iBz4-nzRH9k-00119-00030591-00030974 this firstly as the regional coordinator
iBz4-nzRH9k-00120-00030975-00031158 so with the carpentries there is the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00121-00031160-00031399 possibility to register centrally
iBz4-nzRH9k-00122-00031400-00031670 organized workshops that means you put a
iBz4-nzRH9k-00123-00031672-00031831 request to the carpentries for a
iBz4-nzRH9k-00124-00031832-00032158 workshop and instructors can volunteer
iBz4-nzRH9k-00125-00032160-00032527 the instructors who voluntarily register
iBz4-nzRH9k-00126-00032527-00032670 for these workshops are mostly
iBz4-nzRH9k-00127-00032672-00032927 instructors who do not come from the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00128-00032928-00033055 dhak region
iBz4-nzRH9k-00129-00033056-00033246 as i see and
iBz4-nzRH9k-00130-00033247-00033471 it is therefore often a challenge to
iBz4-nzRH9k-00131-00033472-00033759 bridge the different time zones
iBz4-nzRH9k-00132-00033760-00033999 and another challenge that is related to
iBz4-nzRH9k-00133-00034000-00034143 the fact that
iBz4-nzRH9k-00134-00034144-00034407 um as a regional coordinator i only have
iBz4-nzRH9k-00135-00034408-00034711 a limited view of the community
iBz4-nzRH9k-00136-00034712-00034951 so often i don't even know the different
iBz4-nzRH9k-00137-00034952-00035246 needs of the three regions so germany
iBz4-nzRH9k-00138-00035247-00035495 austria and switzerland and also see
iBz4-nzRH9k-00139-00035496-00035743 that the needs differ not only in region
iBz4-nzRH9k-00140-00035744-00036102 but also in the subject matter whether
iBz4-nzRH9k-00141-00036103-00036318 it is the difference between software
iBz4-nzRH9k-00142-00036319-00036615 data and library carpentry workshop or
iBz4-nzRH9k-00143-00036616-00036879 subject differences as
iBz4-nzRH9k-00144-00036880-00037143 such as medicine and bioinformatics or
iBz4-nzRH9k-00145-00037144-00037543 research data management or library
iBz4-nzRH9k-00146-00037544-00037790 what both challenges have in common is
iBz4-nzRH9k-00147-00037791-00037990 the lack of overview of such a large
iBz4-nzRH9k-00148-00037991-00038135 community
iBz4-nzRH9k-00149-00038136-00038407 what i see as a huge opportunity is the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00150-00038408-00038751 new community development program
iBz4-nzRH9k-00151-00038752-00039023 led by alicia crawl and the main goal of
iBz4-nzRH9k-00152-00039024-00039279 the community development program is to
iBz4-nzRH9k-00153-00039280-00039479 improve the support of the carpentry sub
iBz4-nzRH9k-00154-00039480-00039823 communities to maximize the benefit to
iBz4-nzRH9k-00155-00039824-00040079 our community members and ensure the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00156-00040080-00040271 long-term sustainability of the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00157-00040272-00040559 organizations as we continue to grow
iBz4-nzRH9k-00158-00040560-00040823 globally
iBz4-nzRH9k-00159-00040824-00041079 we define a sub community as a group of
iBz4-nzRH9k-00160-00041080-00041295 community members who serve in the same
iBz4-nzRH9k-00161-00041296-00041511 capacity within
iBz4-nzRH9k-00162-00041512-00041679 the organization
iBz4-nzRH9k-00163-00041680-00041911 are in the same geographic region or
iBz4-nzRH9k-00164-00041912-00042087 come together because of common
iBz4-nzRH9k-00165-00042088-00042327 interests so not only regional
iBz4-nzRH9k-00166-00042328-00042623 coordinator as i am now
iBz4-nzRH9k-00167-00042624-00042943 there's a quarterly call
iBz4-nzRH9k-00168-00042944-00043062 where you
iBz4-nzRH9k-00169-00043063-00043343 support existing sub community leaders
iBz4-nzRH9k-00170-00043344-00043462 and
iBz4-nzRH9k-00171-00043463-00043702 is for those who are looking to start a
iBz4-nzRH9k-00172-00043703-00043895 new sub community
iBz4-nzRH9k-00173-00043896-00044055 um but also for members of the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00174-00044056-00044287 carpentry's community
iBz4-nzRH9k-00175-00044288-00044543 are welcome to participate so everyone
iBz4-nzRH9k-00176-00044544-00044711 can come
iBz4-nzRH9k-00177-00044712-00044902 i have linked you
iBz4-nzRH9k-00178-00044903-00045153 the ether pad in the slides i can
iBz4-nzRH9k-00179-00045154-00045295 [Music]
iBz4-nzRH9k-00180-00045296-00045583 post it in the chat later
iBz4-nzRH9k-00181-00045584-00045727 where you can see the dates for the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00182-00045728-00046039 calls and attend the meetings
iBz4-nzRH9k-00183-00046040-00046143 one of
iBz4-nzRH9k-00184-00046144-00046367 the one idea of the program is that
iBz4-nzRH9k-00185-00046368-00046535 there's not just one regional
iBz4-nzRH9k-00186-00046536-00046855 coordinator like meno but rather several
iBz4-nzRH9k-00187-00046856-00047111 community coordinators who do not
iBz4-nzRH9k-00188-00047112-00047327 necessarily have to be tied to the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00189-00047328-00047630 region and i would like to recommend the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00190-00047631-00047935 program to everyone from my region
iBz4-nzRH9k-00191-00047936-00048239 take a look or not only my region for
iBz4-nzRH9k-00192-00048240-00048486 everyone take a look and become a part
iBz4-nzRH9k-00193-00048487-00048743 of the coordinators
iBz4-nzRH9k-00194-00048744-00048943 in addition to the new community
iBz4-nzRH9k-00195-00048944-00049183 development program i can also recommend
iBz4-nzRH9k-00196-00049184-00049502 getting together in smaller regions
iBz4-nzRH9k-00197-00049503-00049671 so this is what i see from my
iBz4-nzRH9k-00198-00049672-00049974 institutions perspective here we offer
iBz4-nzRH9k-00199-00049975-00050190 workshops for different libraries or
iBz4-nzRH9k-00200-00050191-00050462 universities that don't have their own
iBz4-nzRH9k-00201-00050463-00050830 instructors yet but might want to have
iBz4-nzRH9k-00202-00050831-00051023 and for this the workshops do not have
iBz4-nzRH9k-00203-00051024-00051199 to be centrally organized but
iBz4-nzRH9k-00204-00051200-00051454 self-organized so
iBz4-nzRH9k-00205-00051455-00051726 find your own little community
iBz4-nzRH9k-00206-00051727-00052166 in your region
iBz4-nzRH9k-00207-00052167-00052390 with this i hope to see you in the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00208-00052391-00052615 discussion at the community development
iBz4-nzRH9k-00209-00052616-00052799 program i think this is a really
iBz4-nzRH9k-00210-00052800-00053023 important step for all of us
iBz4-nzRH9k-00211-00053024-00053191 or help each other
iBz4-nzRH9k-00212-00053191-00053294 soon
iBz4-nzRH9k-00213-00053295-00053575 at the first carpentry workshop and
iBz4-nzRH9k-00214-00053576-00054335 i thank you for your attention
iBz4-nzRH9k-00215-00054336-00054503 so
iBz4-nzRH9k-00216-00054504-00054830 i will stop my presentation but i will
iBz4-nzRH9k-00217-00054832-00054959 give you
iBz4-nzRH9k-00218-00054960-00056038 the links from my presentation
iBz4-nzRH9k-00219-00056039-00056279 so first off
iBz4-nzRH9k-00220-00056279-00056911 does it work
iBz4-nzRH9k-00221-00056912-00057126 no it won't
iBz4-nzRH9k-00222-00057127-00057326 i will um
iBz4-nzRH9k-00223-00057327-00057479 post that
iBz4-nzRH9k-00224-00057479-00057711 later for you but
iBz4-nzRH9k-00225-00057712-00057863 would suggest
iBz4-nzRH9k-00226-00057864-00058559 now we can start with legs
iBz4-nzRH9k-00227-00058560-00058703 thank you very much
iBz4-nzRH9k-00228-00058704-00058894 um that was interesting i think we have
iBz4-nzRH9k-00229-00058895-00059135 a lot to discuss once we're all done
iBz4-nzRH9k-00230-00059136-00059294 presenting
iBz4-nzRH9k-00231-00059295-00059575 let me see start the screen share
iBz4-nzRH9k-00232-00059576-00059750 there
iBz4-nzRH9k-00233-00059751-00059926 you should now be able to see my first
iBz4-nzRH9k-00234-00059927-00060150 slide
iBz4-nzRH9k-00235-00060151-00060294 so i am
iBz4-nzRH9k-00236-00060295-00060647 representing university of oslo
iBz4-nzRH9k-00237-00060648-00060854 the initiative we now call carpentry at
iBz4-nzRH9k-00238-00060855-00061079 uio university of oslo in norwegian is
iBz4-nzRH9k-00239-00061079-00061287 universidad de uslo
iBz4-nzRH9k-00240-00061288-00061511 uio and we even got on designer to make
iBz4-nzRH9k-00241-00061512-00061671 our own little logo
iBz4-nzRH9k-00242-00061672-00061894 the mouse and the hammer it's very fond
iBz4-nzRH9k-00243-00061895-00062047 of
iBz4-nzRH9k-00244-00062048-00062303 and we have a like a slogan that says
iBz4-nzRH9k-00245-00062304-00062447 workshops for basic skills in
iBz4-nzRH9k-00246-00062448-00062623 programming and data management
iBz4-nzRH9k-00247-00062624-00062815 at the university of oslo
iBz4-nzRH9k-00248-00062816-00062975 so i'm not representing a whole region
iBz4-nzRH9k-00249-00062976-00063119 although we have
iBz4-nzRH9k-00250-00063120-00063366 the nordic region we did have a
iBz4-nzRH9k-00251-00063367-00063606 regional coordinator but that position
iBz4-nzRH9k-00252-00063607-00063726 could not be
iBz4-nzRH9k-00253-00063727-00063847 prolonged
iBz4-nzRH9k-00254-00063848-00064030 but i might if people are interested i
iBz4-nzRH9k-00255-00064032-00064279 could talk a little bit about the nordic
iBz4-nzRH9k-00256-00064279-00064438 because we have monthly calls and stuff
iBz4-nzRH9k-00257-00064439-00064735 like that
iBz4-nzRH9k-00258-00064736-00064982 um so brief overview of the carpentries
iBz4-nzRH9k-00259-00064983-00065142 in the region i'm also following the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00260-00065144-00065399 four questions we have gotten this is a
iBz4-nzRH9k-00261-00065400-00065599 word cloud i generated from the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00262-00065600-00065815 workshops we've had since 2012 the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00263-00065816-00066111 titles of the workshops
iBz4-nzRH9k-00264-00066112-00066423 so data management is a big one
iBz4-nzRH9k-00265-00066424-00066687 analysis python shell unix git github
iBz4-nzRH9k-00266-00066688-00066831 software
iBz4-nzRH9k-00267-00066832-00066926 are all
iBz4-nzRH9k-00268-00066927-00067047 very popular
iBz4-nzRH9k-00269-00067048-00067231 we
iBz4-nzRH9k-00270-00067232-00067519 see often that if we announce a python
iBz4-nzRH9k-00271-00067520-00067726 programming workshop
iBz4-nzRH9k-00272-00067727-00068087 it is booked fully booked in a few days
iBz4-nzRH9k-00273-00068088-00068535 and often we have twice amount of people
iBz4-nzRH9k-00274-00068536-00068823 applying for a spot then we have spots
iBz4-nzRH9k-00275-00068824-00069023 unfortunately with the low with a high
iBz4-nzRH9k-00276-00069024-00069103 low
iBz4-nzRH9k-00277-00069104-00069382 with a high no show rate
iBz4-nzRH9k-00278-00069383-00069503 um
iBz4-nzRH9k-00279-00069504-00069735 we also actually struggle a little bit
iBz4-nzRH9k-00280-00069736-00069838 with
iBz4-nzRH9k-00281-00069839-00070015 filling those seats so we're
iBz4-nzRH9k-00282-00070016-00070199 sometimes deliberately over booking so
iBz4-nzRH9k-00283-00070200-00070406 we get every everybody that's every seat
iBz4-nzRH9k-00284-00070407-00070591 that we have available filled the same
iBz4-nzRH9k-00285-00070592-00070743 with our workshops are even worse
iBz4-nzRH9k-00286-00070744-00071031 there's like really large interests
iBz4-nzRH9k-00287-00071032-00071223 we're opening our workshops to people
iBz4-nzRH9k-00288-00071224-00071375 not just from the university of oslo we
iBz4-nzRH9k-00289-00071376-00071494 also have the university house for
iBz4-nzRH9k-00290-00071495-00071743 hospital we have
iBz4-nzRH9k-00291-00071744-00071919 institutions and groups nearby that
iBz4-nzRH9k-00292-00071920-00072135 people can easily travel to us
iBz4-nzRH9k-00293-00072136-00072303 and so it's a bit larger than the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00294-00072304-00072455 university of oslo but most of our
iBz4-nzRH9k-00295-00072456-00072599 people come from
iBz4-nzRH9k-00296-00072600-00072911 university of oslo
iBz4-nzRH9k-00297-00072912-00073047 and this is the number of workshops
iBz4-nzRH9k-00298-00073048-00073206 we've been given
iBz4-nzRH9k-00299-00073207-00073559 um we started very
iBz4-nzRH9k-00300-00073560-00073879 modest in 2012 but after 2015
iBz4-nzRH9k-00301-00073880-00074047 we hooked up with the library university
iBz4-nzRH9k-00302-00074048-00074159 library
iBz4-nzRH9k-00303-00074160-00074494 and that has been a huge factor
iBz4-nzRH9k-00304-00074495-00074647 so the university library provides us
iBz4-nzRH9k-00305-00074648-00074735 with
iBz4-nzRH9k-00306-00074736-00075038 the room booking and uh they have a box
iBz4-nzRH9k-00307-00075039-00075199 of cables and sticky notes and other
iBz4-nzRH9k-00308-00075200-00075303 stuff
iBz4-nzRH9k-00309-00075304-00075526 and so they enable the instructors to go
iBz4-nzRH9k-00310-00075527-00075655 to the room
iBz4-nzRH9k-00311-00075656-00075791 meet the learners there plug in the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00312-00075792-00075991 laptop and start teaching
iBz4-nzRH9k-00313-00075992-00076167 so they take away a lot of the logistics
iBz4-nzRH9k-00314-00076168-00076271 uh
iBz4-nzRH9k-00315-00076272-00076423 from us
iBz4-nzRH9k-00316-00076424-00076599 and then we had a
iBz4-nzRH9k-00317-00076600-00076855 nice growth to about 50 workshops a year
iBz4-nzRH9k-00318-00076856-00077062 with a big drop in the pandemic i'll
iBz4-nzRH9k-00319-00077063-00077215 come back up a little bit about that but
iBz4-nzRH9k-00320-00077216-00077343 we're starting to pick up and we're
iBz4-nzRH9k-00321-00077344-00077479 already seeing a lot of interesting
iBz4-nzRH9k-00322-00077480-00077750 teaching workshops in the fall
iBz4-nzRH9k-00323-00077751-00077959 note that we have after a little while
iBz4-nzRH9k-00324-00077960-00078135 found out that for
iBz4-nzRH9k-00325-00078136-00078279 since we have so many local instructors
iBz4-nzRH9k-00326-00078280-00078471 and so many local interesting
iBz4-nzRH9k-00327-00078472-00078791 learners interested we often don't use
iBz4-nzRH9k-00328-00078792-00078982 the two-day model for our workshops but
iBz4-nzRH9k-00329-00078983-00079238 take one module one lesson for example a
iBz4-nzRH9k-00330-00079239-00079471 python lesson or a shell lesson
iBz4-nzRH9k-00331-00079472-00079631 stretch a little bit longer give it a
iBz4-nzRH9k-00332-00079632-00079782 little bit more time a full day or two
iBz4-nzRH9k-00333-00079783-00079999 half days or something so we can really
iBz4-nzRH9k-00334-00080000-00080159 get to the finish and then teach only
iBz4-nzRH9k-00335-00080160-00080287 that
iBz4-nzRH9k-00336-00080288-00080479 that means that we're not often doing
iBz4-nzRH9k-00337-00080480-00080687 officially
iBz4-nzRH9k-00338-00080688-00080838 official carpentry workshops because we
iBz4-nzRH9k-00339-00080839-00081094 don't fill the requirements for the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00340-00081095-00081350 for the curriculum but we do manage to
iBz4-nzRH9k-00341-00081351-00081519 teach a lot more workshops and get
iBz4-nzRH9k-00342-00081520-00081743 people to come for one thing and since
iBz4-nzRH9k-00343-00081744-00081982 we are able to teach often the other
iBz4-nzRH9k-00344-00081983-00082111 things they can learn next time they
iBz4-nzRH9k-00345-00082112-00082375 sign up for a workshop
iBz4-nzRH9k-00346-00082376-00082567 but that is basically because we we have
iBz4-nzRH9k-00347-00082568-00082694 so many local instructors we don't have
iBz4-nzRH9k-00348-00082695-00082999 to fly people in
iBz4-nzRH9k-00349-00083000-00083206 and we also have been inspired by the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00350-00083207-00083606 university of florida carpentry club
iBz4-nzRH9k-00351-00083607-00083943 they have a board elected from their
iBz4-nzRH9k-00352-00083944-00084150 community so we did the same after few
iBz4-nzRH9k-00353-00084151-00084359 few years ago
iBz4-nzRH9k-00354-00084360-00084582 made a website and a charter and
iBz4-nzRH9k-00355-00084583-00084782 election procedures and we have four
iBz4-nzRH9k-00356-00084783-00084903 people on the board that are elected
iBz4-nzRH9k-00357-00084904-00085143 from the community for three two year
iBz4-nzRH9k-00358-00085144-00085343 terms
iBz4-nzRH9k-00359-00085344-00085494 and they're from different types of
iBz4-nzRH9k-00360-00085495-00085703 background in university
iBz4-nzRH9k-00361-00085704-00085887 and then two seats on the on the board
iBz4-nzRH9k-00362-00085888-00086071 are from the university library
iBz4-nzRH9k-00363-00086072-00086279 with our host and they also fund a lot
iBz4-nzRH9k-00364-00086280-00086415 of the stuff
iBz4-nzRH9k-00365-00086416-00086662 and we have recently opened the digital
iBz4-nzRH9k-00366-00086663-00086935 scholarship center which is a
iBz4-nzRH9k-00367-00086936-00087111 university library
iBz4-nzRH9k-00368-00087112-00087318 place or home for
iBz4-nzRH9k-00369-00087319-00087455 these kind of courses for data
iBz4-nzRH9k-00370-00087456-00087735 management courses for courses that are
iBz4-nzRH9k-00371-00087736-00087887 related to the digital scholarship
iBz4-nzRH9k-00372-00087888-00088087 aspect of being a researcher which we're
iBz4-nzRH9k-00373-00088088-00088303 very very happy with it's led by matthew
iBz4-nzRH9k-00374-00088304-00088479 good and he's also an observer when we
iBz4-nzRH9k-00375-00088480-00088647 have board meetings
iBz4-nzRH9k-00376-00088648-00088791 and the digital scholarship center which
iBz4-nzRH9k-00377-00088792-00088926 some of you may have heard of from other
iBz4-nzRH9k-00378-00088927-00089191 universities especially in north america
iBz4-nzRH9k-00379-00089192-00089391 is our new
iBz4-nzRH9k-00380-00089392-00089662 home for the carpentry effort
iBz4-nzRH9k-00381-00089663-00089831 and i think that's going to help help
iBz4-nzRH9k-00382-00089832-00090126 quite a bit
iBz4-nzRH9k-00383-00090127-00090318 so we have at the moment it's 18
iBz4-nzRH9k-00384-00090319-00090518 instructors seven alumni uh it's been
iBz4-nzRH9k-00385-00090519-00090735 going up and down a little bit um we
iBz4-nzRH9k-00386-00090736-00090887 have had
iBz4-nzRH9k-00387-00090888-00091094 we struggled with going back to that we
iBz4-nzRH9k-00388-00091095-00091223 have
iBz4-nzRH9k-00389-00091224-00091311 the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00390-00091312-00091462 good situation that the university is
iBz4-nzRH9k-00391-00091463-00091655 paying for membership which gives five
iBz4-nzRH9k-00392-00091656-00091871 seats for instructor training yearly
iBz4-nzRH9k-00393-00091872-00092055 and we have three instructor trainers
iBz4-nzRH9k-00394-00092056-00092199 used to be four but i at some point
iBz4-nzRH9k-00395-00092200-00092391 tattoo stop doing that so we're not
iBz4-nzRH9k-00396-00092392-00092631 three
iBz4-nzRH9k-00397-00092632-00092799 um projects that the community members
iBz4-nzRH9k-00398-00092800-00092935 are working on we actually also see
iBz4-nzRH9k-00399-00092936-00093103 people interested in
iBz4-nzRH9k-00400-00093104-00093287 in developing lessons themselves we have
iBz4-nzRH9k-00401-00093288-00093518 the folks from the library that are
iBz4-nzRH9k-00402-00093519-00093799 pretty far ahead with making a zotero
iBz4-nzRH9k-00403-00093800-00093991 lesson as a theory as a management
iBz4-nzRH9k-00404-00093992-00094247 system for references both for citations
iBz4-nzRH9k-00405-00094248-00094631 and for the pdfs and everything
iBz4-nzRH9k-00406-00094632-00094799 i started together with one of the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00407-00094800-00094974 others
iBz4-nzRH9k-00408-00094975-00095247 a workshop on if you want to do
iBz4-nzRH9k-00409-00095248-00095399 writing together on github without the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00410-00095400-00095550 command line
iBz4-nzRH9k-00411-00095551-00095711 it's a writing text to go and github but
iBz4-nzRH9k-00412-00095712-00095847 still something that we would like to
iBz4-nzRH9k-00413-00095848-00096094 find the time to put in the incubator
iBz4-nzRH9k-00414-00096095-00096287 history folks are doing workshops tidy
iBz4-nzRH9k-00415-00096288-00096479 for us we have a workshop
iBz4-nzRH9k-00416-00096480-00096735 that is doing a slightly different
iBz4-nzRH9k-00417-00096736-00096950 setup than our workshops because it
iBz4-nzRH9k-00418-00096951-00097111 focuses quite quickly on tidy first and
iBz4-nzRH9k-00419-00097112-00097326 it's very very popular and i'm very
iBz4-nzRH9k-00420-00097327-00097462 happy that the folks that made it are
iBz4-nzRH9k-00421-00097463-00097606 now finally putting it in the incubator
iBz4-nzRH9k-00422-00097607-00097759 because i think it's going to be taught
iBz4-nzRH9k-00423-00097760-00097838 more
iBz4-nzRH9k-00424-00097839-00097959 that way
iBz4-nzRH9k-00425-00097960-00098143 and we're doing local adaptations of
iBz4-nzRH9k-00426-00098144-00098287 library carpentry lessons also in
iBz4-nzRH9k-00427-00098288-00098503 norwegian
iBz4-nzRH9k-00428-00098504-00098887 and we have had um
iBz4-nzRH9k-00429-00098888-00099038 for a long time the wish to maybe do a
iBz4-nzRH9k-00430-00099039-00099231 carpentry contact nordic but it's it's
iBz4-nzRH9k-00431-00099232-00099487 waiting for time and energy but i think
iBz4-nzRH9k-00432-00099488-00099815 it's going to happen at some point
iBz4-nzRH9k-00433-00099816-00100006 challenges sort of sincerely reduce
iBz4-nzRH9k-00434-00100007-00100182 activities and we really lost
iBz4-nzRH9k-00435-00100183-00100374 instructors and the momentum we had
iBz4-nzRH9k-00436-00100375-00100550 going was basically gone because we did
iBz4-nzRH9k-00437-00100551-00100718 do some online training but it wasn't
iBz4-nzRH9k-00438-00100719-00100926 really successful people were not very
iBz4-nzRH9k-00439-00100927-00101143 motivated to do the training online
iBz4-nzRH9k-00440-00101144-00101287 people were still motivated to attend
iBz4-nzRH9k-00441-00101288-00101559 but there were not many instructors
iBz4-nzRH9k-00442-00101560-00101847 but um we did do some once it was
iBz4-nzRH9k-00443-00101848-00102006 possible against some social meetups
iBz4-nzRH9k-00444-00102007-00102159 sometimes with food
iBz4-nzRH9k-00445-00102160-00102326 we did onboarding sessions for people
iBz4-nzRH9k-00446-00102327-00102551 that wanted to teach for the first time
iBz4-nzRH9k-00447-00102552-00102694 and things are looking much much better
iBz4-nzRH9k-00448-00102695-00102878 now than than they used to be about a
iBz4-nzRH9k-00449-00102879-00103078 year or a year and a half ago
iBz4-nzRH9k-00450-00103079-00103223 another challenge which i think many
iBz4-nzRH9k-00451-00103224-00103518 people will recognize as room booking
iBz4-nzRH9k-00452-00103519-00103751 because we need rooms that are ideal for
iBz4-nzRH9k-00453-00103752-00103847 teaching
iBz4-nzRH9k-00454-00103848-00104086 but the courses accredited courses get
iBz4-nzRH9k-00455-00104088-00104247 priority of course and that's not enough
iBz4-nzRH9k-00456-00104248-00104415 of them so we get to be the last ones
iBz4-nzRH9k-00457-00104416-00104551 the big rooms and many of them are
iBz4-nzRH9k-00458-00104552-00104686 already fully booked and especially if
iBz4-nzRH9k-00459-00104688-00104886 you want two rooms to one room two days
iBz4-nzRH9k-00460-00104888-00105071 in a row or maybe you want to do like a
iBz4-nzRH9k-00461-00105072-00105215 week-long event or something that's very
iBz4-nzRH9k-00462-00105216-00105375 very difficult
iBz4-nzRH9k-00463-00105376-00105510 the fact that we are now part of the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00464-00105511-00105686 digital scholarship center means that
iBz4-nzRH9k-00465-00105688-00105815 luckily
iBz4-nzRH9k-00466-00105816-00106015 this center will have its own teaching
iBz4-nzRH9k-00467-00106016-00106190 room which will be available full-time
iBz4-nzRH9k-00468-00106191-00106343 for us so that's going to probably solve
iBz4-nzRH9k-00469-00106344-00106510 its problem
iBz4-nzRH9k-00470-00106511-00106663 really nicely
iBz4-nzRH9k-00471-00106664-00106839 and then we still have heard from people
iBz4-nzRH9k-00472-00106840-00107007 yeah i just i just recently for the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00473-00107008-00107134 first time heard about these carpenters
iBz4-nzRH9k-00474-00107135-00107263 workshops
iBz4-nzRH9k-00475-00107264-00107431 and i'm in this little corner of the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00476-00107432-00107558 university and i've never heard of these
iBz4-nzRH9k-00477-00107559-00107710 things and how do we reach everyone i
iBz4-nzRH9k-00478-00107711-00107895 think this is a large university like
iBz4-nzRH9k-00479-00107896-00108039 university of oslo
iBz4-nzRH9k-00480-00108040-00108183 reaching everyone with the right
iBz4-nzRH9k-00481-00108183-00108319 information at the right time is very
iBz4-nzRH9k-00482-00108320-00108654 very challenging
iBz4-nzRH9k-00483-00108655-00108790 and then we had lots of instructor
iBz4-nzRH9k-00484-00108791-00108927 trainees so they went to instructor
iBz4-nzRH9k-00485-00108928-00109151 training that they maybe even
iBz4-nzRH9k-00486-00109152-00109319 started doing the checkout procedure is
iBz4-nzRH9k-00487-00109320-00109471 these three steps
iBz4-nzRH9k-00488-00109472-00109654 that you need to do like homework before
iBz4-nzRH9k-00489-00109655-00109823 you can become an instructor
iBz4-nzRH9k-00490-00109824-00109966 they either never finished or once they
iBz4-nzRH9k-00491-00109967-00110190 finish they never taught
iBz4-nzRH9k-00492-00110191-00110351 so the board has decided to start
iBz4-nzRH9k-00493-00110352-00110710 mentoring sessions so that
iBz4-nzRH9k-00494-00110711-00110919 uh five people that were actually more
iBz4-nzRH9k-00495-00110920-00111054 because there's some leftover seats that
iBz4-nzRH9k-00496-00111055-00111199 took a circuit training this fall we've
iBz4-nzRH9k-00497-00111200-00111366 been meeting with the monthly online
iBz4-nzRH9k-00498-00111367-00111551 first and in person later
iBz4-nzRH9k-00499-00111552-00111686 checking up with them how is it going
iBz4-nzRH9k-00500-00111688-00111799 how's your checkout going you have
iBz4-nzRH9k-00501-00111800-00111910 questions
iBz4-nzRH9k-00502-00111911-00112095 questions about carpentry at ueo and it
iBz4-nzRH9k-00503-00112096-00112254 really really helped because except for
iBz4-nzRH9k-00504-00112255-00112447 one which is still in the pipeline
iBz4-nzRH9k-00505-00112448-00112583 they're all finished now and the next
iBz4-nzRH9k-00506-00112583-00112734 step of course is for us to get them to
iBz4-nzRH9k-00507-00112735-00112823 teach
iBz4-nzRH9k-00508-00112824-00112958 so i think we should continue doing the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00509-00112959-00113254 onboarding the mentoring sessions and
iBz4-nzRH9k-00510-00113255-00113439 check in with them regularly also after
iBz4-nzRH9k-00511-00113440-00113686 now they're finished it makes really
iBz4-nzRH9k-00512-00113688-00113790 have them
iBz4-nzRH9k-00513-00113791-00113910 being taken care of a feeling that
iBz4-nzRH9k-00514-00113911-00114047 they're taking being taken care of and
iBz4-nzRH9k-00515-00114048-00114254 they're they're wanted in our community
iBz4-nzRH9k-00516-00114255-00114431 and and welcome them and make sure that
iBz4-nzRH9k-00517-00114432-00114647 they start teaching
iBz4-nzRH9k-00518-00114648-00114766 and of course but this is kind of
iBz4-nzRH9k-00519-00114767-00114854 general
iBz4-nzRH9k-00520-00114855-00115047 most most of our instructors are on
iBz4-nzRH9k-00521-00115048-00115215 non-permanent contracts and may leave
iBz4-nzRH9k-00522-00115216-00115463 for other jobs other places
iBz4-nzRH9k-00523-00115464-00115678 but that's kind of partially natural so
iBz4-nzRH9k-00524-00115679-00115815 there will also be a flow of people
iBz4-nzRH9k-00525-00115816-00116047 coming in and out but we do have
iBz4-nzRH9k-00526-00116048-00116175 been successful a little bit in
iBz4-nzRH9k-00527-00116176-00116463 recruiting from permanent staff so we
iBz4-nzRH9k-00528-00116464-00116607 get people that are actually able to
iBz4-nzRH9k-00529-00116608-00116854 stay and get permission from their
iBz4-nzRH9k-00530-00116855-00117071 bosses to teach recovery workshops as
iBz4-nzRH9k-00531-00117072-00117343 part of their job description that's not
iBz4-nzRH9k-00532-00117344-00117695 always easy but sometimes it's possible
iBz4-nzRH9k-00533-00117696-00117831 there was also a question on how to
iBz4-nzRH9k-00534-00117832-00118031 ensure equitable access to the company's
iBz4-nzRH9k-00535-00118032-00118215 community and its resources
iBz4-nzRH9k-00536-00118216-00118447 and one obvious one is translations but
iBz4-nzRH9k-00537-00118448-00118702 we find that in norway and in other
iBz4-nzRH9k-00538-00118703-00118807 countries
iBz4-nzRH9k-00539-00118808-00119031 english is usually okay sufficient maybe
iBz4-nzRH9k-00540-00119032-00119199 not always for library commentary but
iBz4-nzRH9k-00541-00119200-00119390 for most places english is perfectly
iBz4-nzRH9k-00542-00119391-00119647 fine with also many non-norwegian
iBz4-nzRH9k-00543-00119648-00119958 english speaking attendants
iBz4-nzRH9k-00544-00119959-00120175 but it is sometimes necessary to think
iBz4-nzRH9k-00545-00120176-00120366 about domain adjusting the lessons for
iBz4-nzRH9k-00546-00120367-00120486 example
iBz4-nzRH9k-00547-00120488-00120727 um math examples we often have in
iBz4-nzRH9k-00548-00120728-00120895 programming classes are programming
iBz4-nzRH9k-00549-00120896-00121086 lessons are sometimes scaring of
iBz4-nzRH9k-00550-00121088-00121278 humanities folks because they did use
iBz4-nzRH9k-00551-00121279-00121527 humanities to get rid of the math
iBz4-nzRH9k-00552-00121528-00121695 and although we might disagree with that
iBz4-nzRH9k-00553-00121696-00121886 it's difficult but they still have to
iBz4-nzRH9k-00554-00121888-00122071 consider their their feelings around it
iBz4-nzRH9k-00555-00122072-00122214 and see if we can make examples that are
iBz4-nzRH9k-00556-00122215-00122358 more suitable for them like based on
iBz4-nzRH9k-00557-00122359-00122623 text for example
iBz4-nzRH9k-00558-00122624-00122847 and we do have sometimes heard back from
iBz4-nzRH9k-00559-00122848-00123007 people that um
iBz4-nzRH9k-00560-00123008-00123199 i'm so glad that i can hear what you're
iBz4-nzRH9k-00561-00123200-00123343 saying because i have hearing difficulty
iBz4-nzRH9k-00562-00123344-00123447 or see what you're saying because you
iBz4-nzRH9k-00563-00123448-00123614 use the right screen and we don't pay
iBz4-nzRH9k-00564-00123615-00123766 too much attention to it it sometimes
iBz4-nzRH9k-00565-00123767-00123999 comes natural but we do have a room for
iBz4-nzRH9k-00566-00124000-00124214 approval there to be much more conscious
iBz4-nzRH9k-00567-00124215-00124310 about
iBz4-nzRH9k-00568-00124311-00124702 accessibility in all its levels
iBz4-nzRH9k-00569-00124703-00124863 so i also pasted some links but i put
iBz4-nzRH9k-00570-00124864-00124983 them on the slide but i can also put
iBz4-nzRH9k-00571-00124983-00125134 them in the ether pad we have our own
iBz4-nzRH9k-00572-00125135-00125278 little website
iBz4-nzRH9k-00573-00125279-00125510 uh on github but we also have been very
iBz4-nzRH9k-00574-00125511-00125710 lucky to get ui dot slash carpentry
iBz4-nzRH9k-00575-00125711-00125863 which leads to the university library
iBz4-nzRH9k-00576-00125864-00126054 page which is the one that you have on
iBz4-nzRH9k-00577-00126055-00126295 the qr code and
iBz4-nzRH9k-00578-00126296-00126407 this actually was a part of a
iBz4-nzRH9k-00579-00126408-00126583 presentation i gave somewhere else which
iBz4-nzRH9k-00580-00126583-00126751 is why i put the comment resource link
iBz4-nzRH9k-00581-00126752-00126895 in there which is not really necessary
iBz4-nzRH9k-00582-00126896-00127039 for you
iBz4-nzRH9k-00583-00127040-00127814 and i'll stop here
iBz4-nzRH9k-00584-00127815-00128078 thank you lex that was also interesting
iBz4-nzRH9k-00585-00128079-00128527 i put some questions on either pat
iBz4-nzRH9k-00586-00128528-00128854 okay so uh then let's continue with
iBz4-nzRH9k-00587-00128855-00129166 michael
iBz4-nzRH9k-00588-00129167-00129399 thank you
iBz4-nzRH9k-00589-00129400-00129702 um
iBz4-nzRH9k-00590-00129703-00129927 hi everyone i will
iBz4-nzRH9k-00591-00129928-00131511 show my screen
iBz4-nzRH9k-00592-00131512-00131766 yeah you can see my screen
iBz4-nzRH9k-00593-00131767-00131878 yes
iBz4-nzRH9k-00594-00131879-00132047 yeah
iBz4-nzRH9k-00595-00132048-00132343 all right so um thank you very much for
iBz4-nzRH9k-00596-00132344-00132575 this opportunity and
iBz4-nzRH9k-00597-00132576-00132839 uh my case just to
iBz4-nzRH9k-00598-00132840-00133007 share our story about
iBz4-nzRH9k-00599-00133008-00133335 bioinformatics hub of kenya initiative
iBz4-nzRH9k-00600-00133336-00133623 and uh i'm based in kenya
iBz4-nzRH9k-00601-00133624-00133966 nairobi and uh
iBz4-nzRH9k-00602-00133967-00134151 sort of tried to share
iBz4-nzRH9k-00603-00134152-00134366 how this community
iBz4-nzRH9k-00604-00134367-00134483 how about
iBz4-nzRH9k-00605-00134484-00134878 bioinformaticians how it all started
iBz4-nzRH9k-00606-00134879-00135031 what are their achievements or
iBz4-nzRH9k-00607-00135032-00135231 activities that we do and what are the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00608-00135232-00135390 challenges that we've experienced as a
iBz4-nzRH9k-00609-00135391-00135727 community
iBz4-nzRH9k-00610-00135728-00135831 so
iBz4-nzRH9k-00611-00135832-00136183 the idea was uh to create a community
iBz4-nzRH9k-00612-00136184-00136335 where students
iBz4-nzRH9k-00613-00136336-00136519 could interact with
iBz4-nzRH9k-00614-00136520-00136695 experts in bioinformatics and open
iBz4-nzRH9k-00615-00136696-00136895 science and and so
iBz4-nzRH9k-00616-00136896-00137366 at the moment uh we had not had the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00617-00137367-00137535 uh students learning bank semantics
iBz4-nzRH9k-00618-00137536-00137814 should actually interact with uh
iBz4-nzRH9k-00619-00137815-00137935 already
iBz4-nzRH9k-00620-00137936-00138127 experts in bioinformatics
iBz4-nzRH9k-00621-00138128-00138375 and the founding members uh
iBz4-nzRH9k-00622-00138376-00138583 five their names are here
iBz4-nzRH9k-00623-00138584-00138847 myself i'm in the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00624-00138848-00139166 father's left and before even
iBz4-nzRH9k-00625-00139167-00139511 thought of actualizing uh this community
iBz4-nzRH9k-00626-00139512-00139639 we
iBz4-nzRH9k-00627-00139640-00139878 got mentorship from open life science
iBz4-nzRH9k-00628-00139879-00140143 and athletes was one of our mentors from
iBz4-nzRH9k-00629-00140144-00140335 the beginning of this and this actually
iBz4-nzRH9k-00630-00140336-00140511 happened in
iBz4-nzRH9k-00631-00140512-00140790 2020
iBz4-nzRH9k-00632-00140791-00141239 around february february
iBz4-nzRH9k-00633-00141240-00141543 and so uh thinking about a vision and a
iBz4-nzRH9k-00634-00141544-00141790 mission of our community as i mentioned
iBz4-nzRH9k-00635-00141791-00142087 rigid bridging about the gap between
iBz4-nzRH9k-00636-00142088-00142287 well-established information and
iBz4-nzRH9k-00637-00142288-00142431 aspiring
iBz4-nzRH9k-00638-00142432-00142814 uh mathematicians and trying to you know
iBz4-nzRH9k-00639-00142815-00143126 do this through training mentorship to
iBz4-nzRH9k-00640-00143127-00143407 enhance collaborations and foster
iBz4-nzRH9k-00641-00143408-00143575 quality scientific research in our
iBz4-nzRH9k-00642-00143576-00143711 region
iBz4-nzRH9k-00643-00143712-00143990 and so um we did that
iBz4-nzRH9k-00644-00143991-00144254 started the community and
iBz4-nzRH9k-00645-00144255-00144526 some of the activities that
iBz4-nzRH9k-00646-00144527-00144743 we do is uh
iBz4-nzRH9k-00647-00144744-00144895 science cafe
iBz4-nzRH9k-00648-00144896-00145063 where
iBz4-nzRH9k-00649-00145064-00145319 students get to either in the master's
iBz4-nzRH9k-00650-00145320-00145631 degree undergraduate and phd get to
iBz4-nzRH9k-00651-00145632-00145759 present their
iBz4-nzRH9k-00652-00145760-00145943 research work
iBz4-nzRH9k-00653-00145944-00146247 at this science cafe so we have at least
iBz4-nzRH9k-00654-00146248-00146399 do it monthly
iBz4-nzRH9k-00655-00146400-00146775 and try to share and
iBz4-nzRH9k-00656-00146776-00147071 critique each other so this is you know
iBz4-nzRH9k-00657-00147072-00147335 collaboration at the pia
iBz4-nzRH9k-00658-00147336-00147526 or rather learning
iBz4-nzRH9k-00659-00147527-00147735 and also we
iBz4-nzRH9k-00660-00147736-00147959 organize self-organized
iBz4-nzRH9k-00661-00147960-00148119 workshops and
iBz4-nzRH9k-00662-00148120-00148199 we
iBz4-nzRH9k-00663-00148200-00148471 use our carpentries training materials
iBz4-nzRH9k-00664-00148472-00148663 for example if you think of
iBz4-nzRH9k-00665-00148664-00149063 our uh lineups etc
iBz4-nzRH9k-00666-00149064-00149143 uh
iBz4-nzRH9k-00667-00149144-00149383 we also try and do conferences like uh
iBz4-nzRH9k-00668-00149384-00149639 last year we had this year last year we
iBz4-nzRH9k-00669-00149640-00149878 had uh bioinformatics conference and try
iBz4-nzRH9k-00670-00149879-00150151 to share the next slide
iBz4-nzRH9k-00671-00150152-00150454 seminars also are organized to
iBz4-nzRH9k-00672-00150455-00150847 these are actually out of the box uh
iBz4-nzRH9k-00673-00150848-00150999 discussions like
iBz4-nzRH9k-00674-00151000-00151175 last month we had
iBz4-nzRH9k-00675-00151176-00151526 a seminar where
iBz4-nzRH9k-00676-00151527-00151751 got our speaker to discuss about mental
iBz4-nzRH9k-00677-00151752-00151935 health um
iBz4-nzRH9k-00678-00151936-00152047 and
iBz4-nzRH9k-00679-00152048-00152231 these are some of the things that in our
iBz4-nzRH9k-00680-00152232-00152543 community people are struggling with
iBz4-nzRH9k-00681-00152544-00152743 mental health example they're doing
iBz4-nzRH9k-00682-00152744-00152935 their research
iBz4-nzRH9k-00683-00152936-00153231 and i mean their studies for example
iBz4-nzRH9k-00684-00153232-00153335 um
iBz4-nzRH9k-00685-00153336-00153543 we also started outreach
iBz4-nzRH9k-00686-00153544-00153726 programs we strike to sensitize
iBz4-nzRH9k-00687-00153727-00154078 bioinformatics um this we started uh in
iBz4-nzRH9k-00688-00154079-00154302 march a shared photo of
iBz4-nzRH9k-00689-00154303-00154535 our first outreach event at the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00690-00154536-00154926 university level so basically trying to
iBz4-nzRH9k-00691-00154927-00155126 sensitize bioinformatics and open
iBz4-nzRH9k-00692-00155127-00155431 science to high school students and also
iBz4-nzRH9k-00693-00155432-00155639 university students
iBz4-nzRH9k-00694-00155640-00155911 and many organizations or there is an
iBz4-nzRH9k-00695-00155912-00156175 annual general meeting that we do every
iBz4-nzRH9k-00696-00156176-00156478 february with each year
iBz4-nzRH9k-00697-00156479-00156599 um
iBz4-nzRH9k-00698-00156600-00156839 some of the successes and achievements
iBz4-nzRH9k-00699-00156840-00157143 that we've had in the past two years is
iBz4-nzRH9k-00700-00157144-00157390 uh we are fully registered as an
iBz4-nzRH9k-00701-00157391-00157599 non-governmental organization in
iBz4-nzRH9k-00702-00157600-00157735 accordance to
iBz4-nzRH9k-00703-00157736-00157990 government uh rule
iBz4-nzRH9k-00704-00157991-00158359 and last year we won our first grant
iBz4-nzRH9k-00705-00158360-00158663 and dida
iBz4-nzRH9k-00706-00158664-00158935 an event on empowering researches with
iBz4-nzRH9k-00707-00158936-00159175 matrix and problems and skills
iBz4-nzRH9k-00708-00159176-00159359 and in this we try to
iBz4-nzRH9k-00709-00159360-00159735 sensitize by doing uh for example fair
iBz4-nzRH9k-00710-00159736-00159902 symposium
iBz4-nzRH9k-00711-00159903-00160031 train us
iBz4-nzRH9k-00712-00160032-00160278 our participants on
iBz4-nzRH9k-00713-00160279-00160454 bioinformatics skills and open source
iBz4-nzRH9k-00714-00160455-00160551 skills
iBz4-nzRH9k-00715-00160552-00160775 and not only train them but also
iBz4-nzRH9k-00716-00160776-00160926 introduce the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00717-00160927-00161166 train the trainer where
iBz4-nzRH9k-00718-00161167-00161254 we
iBz4-nzRH9k-00719-00161255-00161454 collaborated with the carpentries and
iBz4-nzRH9k-00720-00161455-00161647 record slot where
iBz4-nzRH9k-00721-00161648-00161847 our participants would actually be
iBz4-nzRH9k-00722-00161848-00162143 instructors and i think more than half
iBz4-nzRH9k-00723-00162144-00162429 of the trainers actually completed
iBz4-nzRH9k-00724-00162430-00162543 [Music]
iBz4-nzRH9k-00725-00162544-00162783 the session and now we are also growing
iBz4-nzRH9k-00726-00162784-00162871 the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00727-00162872-00162990 instructor
iBz4-nzRH9k-00728-00162991-00163223 uh trainers in our community and after
iBz4-nzRH9k-00729-00163224-00163375 that they get to
iBz4-nzRH9k-00730-00163376-00163735 hack by doing small mini projects
iBz4-nzRH9k-00731-00163736-00163926 uh where they could now start doing
iBz4-nzRH9k-00732-00163927-00164175 small bioinformatics projects or also
iBz4-nzRH9k-00733-00164176-00164431 open science
iBz4-nzRH9k-00734-00164432-00164614 projects and at the end try to
iBz4-nzRH9k-00735-00164615-00164863 collaborate in a conference where
iBz4-nzRH9k-00736-00164864-00164935 we
iBz4-nzRH9k-00737-00164936-00165111 do our conference to just
iBz4-nzRH9k-00738-00165112-00165254 accumulate
iBz4-nzRH9k-00739-00165255-00165535 all the events and try to have students
iBz4-nzRH9k-00740-00165536-00165719 present their work
iBz4-nzRH9k-00741-00165720-00166031 and also um
iBz4-nzRH9k-00742-00166032-00166359 open bioinformatics fund this year to do
iBz4-nzRH9k-00743-00166360-00166526 a
iBz4-nzRH9k-00744-00166527-00166926 a seminar on research development
iBz4-nzRH9k-00745-00166927-00167302 rdms and omix where we try to
iBz4-nzRH9k-00746-00167303-00167678 group students in different uh
iBz4-nzRH9k-00747-00167679-00168031 bioinformatics areas metabolomics
iBz4-nzRH9k-00748-00168032-00168351 genomics proteomics etc
iBz4-nzRH9k-00749-00168352-00168647 and also this year we invited to
iBz4-nzRH9k-00750-00168648-00168966 showcase bioinformatics for kenya and
iBz4-nzRH9k-00751-00168967-00169135 it's good that the community is growing
iBz4-nzRH9k-00752-00169136-00169559 and we have almost 400 active members
iBz4-nzRH9k-00753-00169560-00169847 so this is a photo i like to share this
iBz4-nzRH9k-00754-00169848-00170095 because it's our first outreach in one
iBz4-nzRH9k-00755-00170096-00170278 of the universities that called
iBz4-nzRH9k-00756-00170279-00170511 technical university of kenya
iBz4-nzRH9k-00757-00170512-00170790 and we had almost
iBz4-nzRH9k-00758-00170791-00171175 more than 50 students
iBz4-nzRH9k-00759-00171176-00171383 completing their studies at the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00760-00171384-00171551 undergraduate level
iBz4-nzRH9k-00761-00171552-00171766 and some of the challenges we faced is
iBz4-nzRH9k-00762-00171767-00171847 that
iBz4-nzRH9k-00763-00171848-00172078 these students are actually doing
iBz4-nzRH9k-00764-00172079-00172343 biological sciences some
iBz4-nzRH9k-00765-00172344-00172638 about chemistry biotechnology and yet
iBz4-nzRH9k-00766-00172639-00172911 they have zero idea or
iBz4-nzRH9k-00767-00172912-00173207 concepts of open sun so
iBz4-nzRH9k-00768-00173208-00173407 either they're not taught in in their
iBz4-nzRH9k-00769-00173408-00173607 curriculum or
iBz4-nzRH9k-00770-00173608-00173838 they have no clue and so
iBz4-nzRH9k-00771-00173839-00174159 we introduce try to um
iBz4-nzRH9k-00772-00174160-00174431 sensitize the trends in bioinformatics
iBz4-nzRH9k-00773-00174432-00174719 and also try to group the students and
iBz4-nzRH9k-00774-00174720-00175023 get to understand if they have any idea
iBz4-nzRH9k-00775-00175024-00175263 on bioinformatics and open science and
iBz4-nzRH9k-00776-00175264-00175487 if if they'll actually be interested to
iBz4-nzRH9k-00777-00175488-00175566 do
iBz4-nzRH9k-00778-00175567-00175902 uh projects on these fields and how
iBz4-nzRH9k-00779-00175903-00175983 us
iBz4-nzRH9k-00780-00175984-00176247 bioinformatics above kenya we can try to
iBz4-nzRH9k-00781-00176248-00176463 help them mentor them to do small
iBz4-nzRH9k-00782-00176464-00176711 projects on bioinformatics and open
iBz4-nzRH9k-00783-00176712-00177023 sounds
iBz4-nzRH9k-00784-00177024-00177311 some of the challenges that you've had
iBz4-nzRH9k-00785-00177312-00177526 over the time is we failed to reach some
iBz4-nzRH9k-00786-00177527-00177726 of the key actors
iBz4-nzRH9k-00787-00177727-00177878 especially
iBz4-nzRH9k-00788-00177879-00178166 at university level the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00789-00178167-00178407 lecturers don't get to you know get
iBz4-nzRH9k-00790-00178408-00178838 training on informatics
iBz4-nzRH9k-00791-00178839-00178959 and so
iBz4-nzRH9k-00792-00178960-00179183 we have tried to now
iBz4-nzRH9k-00793-00179184-00179566 do more specific like
iBz4-nzRH9k-00794-00179567-00179871 creating workshops for these uh
iBz4-nzRH9k-00795-00179872-00180143 key actors in in the field
iBz4-nzRH9k-00796-00180144-00180319 and also um
iBz4-nzRH9k-00797-00180320-00180511 resource constraints is one of our
iBz4-nzRH9k-00798-00180512-00180695 challenges especially if we're trying to
iBz4-nzRH9k-00799-00180696-00180999 you know organize workshops low shading
iBz4-nzRH9k-00800-00181000-00181199 internet speed computational resource
iBz4-nzRH9k-00801-00181200-00181438 especially students we give students
iBz4-nzRH9k-00802-00181439-00181726 many projects to do and so computational
iBz4-nzRH9k-00803-00181727-00181902 is always a challenge
iBz4-nzRH9k-00804-00181903-00182159 and also within the organization the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00805-00182160-00182359 leaders of the founders are trying to
iBz4-nzRH9k-00806-00182360-00182566 you know balance between running
iBz4-nzRH9k-00807-00182567-00182847 organization and also personal work
iBz4-nzRH9k-00808-00182848-00183038 and we've
iBz4-nzRH9k-00809-00183039-00183271 now maybe trying to
iBz4-nzRH9k-00810-00183272-00183519 give incentives to members to you know
iBz4-nzRH9k-00811-00183520-00183783 support some of the activities that they
iBz4-nzRH9k-00812-00183784-00184175 that they do to make grow the uh
iBz4-nzRH9k-00813-00184176-00184454 the the hub
iBz4-nzRH9k-00814-00184455-00184551 um
iBz4-nzRH9k-00815-00184552-00184759 so in helping us create the community
iBz4-nzRH9k-00816-00184760-00184975 can always contact us we
iBz4-nzRH9k-00817-00184976-00185214 hope they'll share the slide
iBz4-nzRH9k-00818-00185215-00185447 so you can either contact us or join us
iBz4-nzRH9k-00819-00185448-00185783 and every uh description is in the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00820-00185784-00185878 in the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00821-00185879-00186038 in the website
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iBz4-nzRH9k-00841-00190415-00190607 so thank you for the insights into your
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iBz4-nzRH9k-00843-00190864-00191047 you provide
iBz4-nzRH9k-00844-00191048-00191454 and i hope we can discuss this later
iBz4-nzRH9k-00845-00191455-00191614 okay so
iBz4-nzRH9k-00846-00191615-00191943 then last but not least we continue with
iBz4-nzRH9k-00847-00191944-00192366 martin
iBz4-nzRH9k-00848-00192367-00192566 hi everyone if i sound a little bit
iBz4-nzRH9k-00849-00192567-00192838 weird i woke up this weekend with a
iBz4-nzRH9k-00850-00192839-00192990 terrible cough so
iBz4-nzRH9k-00851-00192991-00193247 i might sound like a frog eating my
iBz4-nzRH9k-00852-00193248-00193438 throat from the inside out but yeah i'm
iBz4-nzRH9k-00853-00193439-00193631 trying i'm gonna try my best
iBz4-nzRH9k-00854-00193632-00193759 okay let's see
iBz4-nzRH9k-00855-00193760-00194183 this
iBz4-nzRH9k-00856-00194184-00194463 okay can you see my slides
iBz4-nzRH9k-00857-00194464-00194654 yes we can see it
iBz4-nzRH9k-00858-00194655-00194926 okay so um i'm martin drayer i work at
iBz4-nzRH9k-00859-00194927-00195183 northwest university in south africa um
iBz4-nzRH9k-00860-00195184-00195487 within the university i work in the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00861-00195488-00195702 information technology department
iBz4-nzRH9k-00862-00195703-00195943 and at the moment i'm a research analyst
iBz4-nzRH9k-00863-00195944-00196287 so the carpentries where stemmed from my
iBz4-nzRH9k-00864-00196288-00196535 previous post but i'm still working
iBz4-nzRH9k-00865-00196536-00196790 diving into the carpenters a little bit
iBz4-nzRH9k-00866-00196791-00197102 because i i like the community so much
iBz4-nzRH9k-00867-00197103-00197390 okay so where did we start
iBz4-nzRH9k-00868-00197391-00197590 we started with the research initiative
iBz4-nzRH9k-00869-00197591-00197711 back in
iBz4-nzRH9k-00870-00197712-00198023 2015 actually end of 2014 start begin
iBz4-nzRH9k-00871-00198024-00198150 2015
iBz4-nzRH9k-00872-00198151-00198343 and we had a vision within this vision
iBz4-nzRH9k-00873-00198344-00198535 we said we need to support our
iBz4-nzRH9k-00874-00198536-00198719 researchers a little bit better we need
iBz4-nzRH9k-00875-00198720-00198807 to get
iBz4-nzRH9k-00876-00198808-00198983 up-to-date
iBz4-nzRH9k-00877-00198984-00199231 with the international community the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00878-00199232-00199495 international initiatives and we went to
iBz4-nzRH9k-00879-00199496-00199766 our research niche areas we have a a
iBz4-nzRH9k-00880-00199767-00199943 really big
iBz4-nzRH9k-00881-00199944-00200159 bioinformatics
iBz4-nzRH9k-00882-00200160-00200519 i want to say hub faculty department
iBz4-nzRH9k-00883-00200520-00200759 um and they really do ground breaking
iBz4-nzRH9k-00884-00200760-00200943 work so we went to them for instance we
iBz4-nzRH9k-00885-00200944-00201199 went to the humanities we went to
iBz4-nzRH9k-00886-00201200-00201423 engineering we have a really big
iBz4-nzRH9k-00887-00201424-00201614 engineering faculty as well and we spoke
iBz4-nzRH9k-00888-00201615-00201750 with all the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00889-00201751-00201943 the leaders and then we said okay now we
iBz4-nzRH9k-00890-00201944-00202135 have your idea let's pick the people on
iBz4-nzRH9k-00891-00202136-00202287 the ground because you know sometimes
iBz4-nzRH9k-00892-00202288-00202447 the people on the ground has a little
iBz4-nzRH9k-00893-00202448-00202719 bit more info of the struggles and stuff
iBz4-nzRH9k-00894-00202720-00202878 and the people
iBz4-nzRH9k-00895-00202879-00203135 in charge are a little bit
iBz4-nzRH9k-00896-00203136-00203399 focused on something else
iBz4-nzRH9k-00897-00203400-00203623 so we said okay let's see what we need
iBz4-nzRH9k-00898-00203624-00203854 and within that it came from
iBz4-nzRH9k-00899-00203855-00204102 they need some support
iBz4-nzRH9k-00900-00204103-00204311 training sustainability was one of the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00901-00204312-00204543 biggest things that we talked about
iBz4-nzRH9k-00902-00204544-00204711 community awareness because a lot of
iBz4-nzRH9k-00903-00204712-00204919 times you have these excellent community
iBz4-nzRH9k-00904-00204919-00205214 initiatives and nobody knows about it
iBz4-nzRH9k-00905-00205215-00205414 so we spoke about research data
iBz4-nzRH9k-00906-00205415-00205614 management with them open science
iBz4-nzRH9k-00907-00205615-00205775 reproducible research is one of the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00908-00205776-00206079 biggest things that we try to focus on
iBz4-nzRH9k-00909-00206080-00206327 in this environment that we're in if you
iBz4-nzRH9k-00910-00206328-00206519 can't reproduce your research then you
iBz4-nzRH9k-00911-00206519-00206775 might as well just stop doing it
iBz4-nzRH9k-00912-00206776-00206951 collaboration was one of the biggest
iBz4-nzRH9k-00913-00206952-00207119 things that that we still struggle with
iBz4-nzRH9k-00914-00207119-00207334 today because a lot of people are in the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00915-00207335-00207455 mindset of
iBz4-nzRH9k-00916-00207456-00207694 this is my data i'm paying for this
iBz4-nzRH9k-00917-00207696-00207838 research so
iBz4-nzRH9k-00918-00207839-00208190 um this is mine um funding is is a big
iBz4-nzRH9k-00919-00208191-00208479 issue especially in africa
iBz4-nzRH9k-00920-00208480-00208703 even in south africa funding is becoming
iBz4-nzRH9k-00921-00208704-00208862 a really big problem
iBz4-nzRH9k-00922-00208863-00209031 and we also
iBz4-nzRH9k-00923-00209032-00209255 came to the computational and digital
iBz4-nzRH9k-00924-00209256-00209494 research and then stemmed to the skill
iBz4-nzRH9k-00925-00209496-00209742 set of our researchers now within this
iBz4-nzRH9k-00926-00209744-00209934 environment within our vision and our
iBz4-nzRH9k-00927-00209935-00210263 initiative we saw okay we need to do
iBz4-nzRH9k-00928-00210264-00210510 something okay
iBz4-nzRH9k-00929-00210511-00210751 let me just do this okay
iBz4-nzRH9k-00930-00210752-00210982 what we did was we launched the research
iBz4-nzRH9k-00931-00210983-00211198 initiative we tried to speak with our
iBz4-nzRH9k-00932-00211200-00211358 researchers
iBz4-nzRH9k-00933-00211359-00211542 we focused on researchers skills and
iBz4-nzRH9k-00934-00211544-00211751 that's where the carpenters came in
iBz4-nzRH9k-00935-00211752-00211903 collaboration was one of the biggest
iBz4-nzRH9k-00936-00211904-00212110 things that came in open science was
iBz4-nzRH9k-00937-00212111-00212327 sort of a swear word to some of our
iBz4-nzRH9k-00938-00212328-00212575 faculties but open science science is
iBz4-nzRH9k-00939-00212576-00212727 something that you can't get away from
iBz4-nzRH9k-00940-00212728-00212910 these days it's like electric cars it's
iBz4-nzRH9k-00941-00212911-00213079 going to be part of your life for for
iBz4-nzRH9k-00942-00213080-00213287 quite some time so open science is
iBz4-nzRH9k-00943-00213288-00213510 something that we need to address and we
iBz4-nzRH9k-00944-00213511-00213703 said well even if you don't like it just
iBz4-nzRH9k-00945-00213704-00213863 years out
iBz4-nzRH9k-00946-00213864-00214079 we spoke about collaboration not only
iBz4-nzRH9k-00947-00214080-00214223 between departments but between
iBz4-nzRH9k-00948-00214223-00214567 universities between regional areas
iBz4-nzRH9k-00949-00214567-00214934 we we have our one of our bioinformatics
iBz4-nzRH9k-00950-00214935-00215151 environments or actually mobile
iBz4-nzRH9k-00951-00215152-00215287 biochemistry
iBz4-nzRH9k-00952-00215288-00215479 they work with the university in
iBz4-nzRH9k-00953-00215480-00215598 australia
iBz4-nzRH9k-00954-00215600-00215694 and
iBz4-nzRH9k-00955-00215696-00215975 they share data and they pay for data we
iBz4-nzRH9k-00956-00215976-00216239 pay for that it it's a it's a it's a big
iBz4-nzRH9k-00957-00216240-00216398 collaboration and
iBz4-nzRH9k-00958-00216400-00216631 um the research outputs from that
iBz4-nzRH9k-00959-00216632-00216815 collaboration is really immensely
iBz4-nzRH9k-00960-00216816-00216998 important to the university because all
iBz4-nzRH9k-00961-00217000-00217239 of you know although the university
iBz4-nzRH9k-00962-00217240-00217558 says their main job is research
iBz4-nzRH9k-00963-00217559-00217742 the main idea for university is money
iBz4-nzRH9k-00964-00217744-00218039 but yeah okay so then came carpentry's
iBz4-nzRH9k-00965-00218040-00218206 membership
iBz4-nzRH9k-00966-00218207-00218406 why did we want to become a competence
iBz4-nzRH9k-00967-00218407-00218710 member because the community was big um
iBz4-nzRH9k-00968-00218711-00218910 still is and it's still growing
iBz4-nzRH9k-00969-00218911-00219182 and we aligned ourselves with with the
iBz4-nzRH9k-00970-00219183-00219415 community of of the companies because we
iBz4-nzRH9k-00971-00219416-00219606 liked what they do
iBz4-nzRH9k-00972-00219607-00219791 and then some of our community
iBz4-nzRH9k-00973-00219792-00219967 initiative this slide was supposed to be
iBz4-nzRH9k-00974-00219967-00220182 a little bit later but okay
iBz4-nzRH9k-00975-00220183-00220342 um we started with raspberry pi
iBz4-nzRH9k-00976-00220344-00220567 hackathon um last week breakathon is an
iBz4-nzRH9k-00977-00220567-00220727 annual thing that we
iBz4-nzRH9k-00978-00220728-00221103 do on on our universe at our university
iBz4-nzRH9k-00979-00221104-00221287 which we we
iBz4-nzRH9k-00980-00221288-00221598 say okay we will provide you with a
iBz4-nzRH9k-00981-00221600-00221815 raspberry pi and some extra tools and
iBz4-nzRH9k-00982-00221816-00221967 functions you tell us what you want to
iBz4-nzRH9k-00983-00221967-00222087 do with it
iBz4-nzRH9k-00984-00222088-00222279 but it should fall under the 101
iBz4-nzRH9k-00985-00222280-00222423 innovations
iBz4-nzRH9k-00986-00222423-00222719 idea of sustainable research sustainable
iBz4-nzRH9k-00987-00222719-00223023 humanity and so on and
iBz4-nzRH9k-00988-00223023-00223263 most of the time the undergrads actually
iBz4-nzRH9k-00989-00223264-00223534 prosper they we had one person that
iBz4-nzRH9k-00990-00223535-00223710 fully automated the greenhouse and it
iBz4-nzRH9k-00991-00223711-00223927 took them i think two months
iBz4-nzRH9k-00992-00223928-00224119 to do that with only a raspberry pi and
iBz4-nzRH9k-00993-00224119-00224439 some arduino boards um so it's really a
iBz4-nzRH9k-00994-00224440-00224679 good initiative
iBz4-nzRH9k-00995-00224680-00224815 it got hijacked
iBz4-nzRH9k-00996-00224816-00225046 from me uh to the faculty of natural
iBz4-nzRH9k-00997-00225048-00225310 sciences they sort of took over from me
iBz4-nzRH9k-00998-00225311-00225527 and they carried on with it and i'm
iBz4-nzRH9k-00999-00225528-00225719 really excited about this year because
iBz4-nzRH9k-01000-00225719-00225887 we have about
iBz4-nzRH9k-01001-00225888-00226046 we started the first time we started it
iBz4-nzRH9k-01002-00226048-00226255 we had five teams and i think we
iBz4-nzRH9k-01003-00226256-00226519 had 30 teams this year so it's really
iBz4-nzRH9k-01004-00226519-00226703 growing it's something that we see
iBz4-nzRH9k-01005-00226704-00226910 can go fall under the sustainable
iBz4-nzRH9k-01006-00226911-00227103 development idea
iBz4-nzRH9k-01007-00227104-00227351 we also have python training schools
iBz4-nzRH9k-01008-00227352-00227534 that is hosted by our center for
iBz4-nzRH9k-01009-00227535-00227703 performance computing
iBz4-nzRH9k-01010-00227704-00227958 they specifically host it to undergrads
iBz4-nzRH9k-01011-00227959-00228134 and postgrads
iBz4-nzRH9k-01012-00228135-00228231 to get
iBz4-nzRH9k-01013-00228232-00228375 to make sure the next generation of
iBz4-nzRH9k-01014-00228376-00228591 researchers don't fall into the same
iBz4-nzRH9k-01015-00228592-00228855 chap that our current generation has
iBz4-nzRH9k-01016-00228856-00229046 uh we do provide some hpc training
iBz4-nzRH9k-01017-00229048-00229279 because we have our own hpc as well
iBz4-nzRH9k-01018-00229280-00229487 and then rdm one of the biggest things
iBz4-nzRH9k-01019-00229488-00229615 that came out was
iBz4-nzRH9k-01020-00229616-00229823 data where do i store my data what do i
iBz4-nzRH9k-01021-00229823-00229967 do with my data
iBz4-nzRH9k-01022-00229967-00230215 um how do i keep my data safe and then
iBz4-nzRH9k-01023-00230216-00230503 we we said okay let's look at next cloud
iBz4-nzRH9k-01024-00230504-00230815 that's our on-prem for us by us cloud
iBz4-nzRH9k-01025-00230816-00231087 environment where we give them storage
iBz4-nzRH9k-01026-00231088-00231310 space make sure it's secure as secure as
iBz4-nzRH9k-01027-00231311-00231742 we can make it as well as the hpc
iBz4-nzRH9k-01028-00231744-00231823 then
iBz4-nzRH9k-01029-00231823-00232087 after all of the work we did
iBz4-nzRH9k-01030-00232088-00232246 and the in-person workshop that we
iBz4-nzRH9k-01031-00232248-00232351 hosted
iBz4-nzRH9k-01032-00232352-00232639 covert 19 decided that um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01033-00232640-00232863 it's going to change our lives for
iBz4-nzRH9k-01034-00232864-00233031 better or worse we're still thinking
iBz4-nzRH9k-01035-00233032-00233134 about it
iBz4-nzRH9k-01036-00233135-00233415 so we started to say okay how can we
iBz4-nzRH9k-01037-00233416-00233591 keep on with the goblin trees how can we
iBz4-nzRH9k-01038-00233592-00233863 still do the carpentries and we
iBz4-nzRH9k-01039-00233864-00233998 looked at everybody said okay we're
iBz4-nzRH9k-01040-00234000-00234287 working from home we're working remotely
iBz4-nzRH9k-01041-00234288-00234439 and we started to do the online
iBz4-nzRH9k-01042-00234440-00234710 workshops so we focused on specific
iBz4-nzRH9k-01043-00234711-00235039 parts in the online workshops but then
iBz4-nzRH9k-01044-00235040-00235271 this came with a few challenges data in
iBz4-nzRH9k-01045-00235271-00235463 south africa data is an issue because
iBz4-nzRH9k-01046-00235464-00235646 not everybody has
iBz4-nzRH9k-01047-00235648-00235887 internet line at home so most people
iBz4-nzRH9k-01048-00235888-00236151 work on either lte or their mobile
iBz4-nzRH9k-01049-00236152-00236263 devices
iBz4-nzRH9k-01050-00236264-00236455 connection is an issue
iBz4-nzRH9k-01051-00236456-00236542 and
iBz4-nzRH9k-01052-00236544-00236791 we have this thing called load cheating
iBz4-nzRH9k-01053-00236792-00237039 or actually there's power failures
iBz4-nzRH9k-01054-00237040-00237198 in south africa where
iBz4-nzRH9k-01055-00237200-00237415 our power
iBz4-nzRH9k-01056-00237416-00237598 i want to say
iBz4-nzRH9k-01057-00237600-00237727 um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01058-00237728-00237839 our
iBz4-nzRH9k-01059-00237840-00238046 provider just switches over power every
iBz4-nzRH9k-01060-00238048-00238303 now and then when they feel like it
iBz4-nzRH9k-01061-00238304-00238527 now how did this change our workshop
iBz4-nzRH9k-01062-00238528-00238758 setup we went from an in-person workshop
iBz4-nzRH9k-01063-00238759-00238942 which was two full days we mostly
iBz4-nzRH9k-01064-00238944-00239079 focused on
iBz4-nzRH9k-01065-00239080-00239279 art for ecologists and social sciences
iBz4-nzRH9k-01066-00239280-00239382 was also
iBz4-nzRH9k-01067-00239383-00239598 pretty popular but we mostly focused on
iBz4-nzRH9k-01068-00239600-00239679 our
iBz4-nzRH9k-01069-00239680-00239903 we went to the online base and we said
iBz4-nzRH9k-01070-00239904-00240206 okay we can't have a 30 odd um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01071-00240207-00240375 base anymore
iBz4-nzRH9k-01072-00240376-00240655 so we're thinking about 15 people
iBz4-nzRH9k-01073-00240656-00240823 we said okay let's change it from full
iBz4-nzRH9k-01074-00240823-00241023 days to a half days because sitting in
iBz4-nzRH9k-01075-00241023-00241263 front of a computer screen listening to
iBz4-nzRH9k-01076-00241264-00241542 somebody bubble for a full day
iBz4-nzRH9k-01077-00241544-00241710 it's more enticing than actually sitting
iBz4-nzRH9k-01078-00241711-00241879 in a class talking to somebody next to
iBz4-nzRH9k-01079-00241880-00242119 you having a coffee break
iBz4-nzRH9k-01080-00242119-00242303 networking a little bit so you're on
iBz4-nzRH9k-01081-00242304-00242534 your own so let's focus on half day so
iBz4-nzRH9k-01082-00242535-00242791 we can still give people a chance to
iBz4-nzRH9k-01083-00242792-00243110 do work and to recover from
iBz4-nzRH9k-01084-00243111-00243367 whatever we did and we try to focus on
iBz4-nzRH9k-01085-00243367-00243615 one two per day so on the first day
iBz4-nzRH9k-01086-00243616-00243791 we'll focus specifically maybe on
iBz4-nzRH9k-01087-00243792-00244030 spreadsheets second day we'll focus on
iBz4-nzRH9k-01088-00244031-00244182 open reform
iBz4-nzRH9k-01089-00244183-00244439 and in the third fourth and sometimes
iBz4-nzRH9k-01090-00244440-00244663 fifth day we'll focus on art depending
iBz4-nzRH9k-01091-00244664-00244903 on on your uh
iBz4-nzRH9k-01092-00244904-00245046 group that you have your participants
iBz4-nzRH9k-01093-00245048-00245351 what level they are we mostly
iBz4-nzRH9k-01094-00245352-00245487 spend
iBz4-nzRH9k-01095-00245488-00245742 two full day of two of days on our or we
iBz4-nzRH9k-01096-00245744-00245855 will spend
iBz4-nzRH9k-01097-00245856-00245958 two and
iBz4-nzRH9k-01098-00245959-00246255 one and a half day on also three of days
iBz4-nzRH9k-01099-00246256-00246439 on r
iBz4-nzRH9k-01100-00246440-00246687 okay we also within our membership we
iBz4-nzRH9k-01101-00246688-00246887 have the instructor training we have 30
iBz4-nzRH9k-01102-00246888-00247079 instructor training seats
iBz4-nzRH9k-01103-00247080-00247342 uh we used to have three trainers um i'm
iBz4-nzRH9k-01104-00247344-00247655 the only one left so it's quite
iBz4-nzRH9k-01105-00247656-00247975 it's quite interesting and
iBz4-nzRH9k-01106-00247976-00248246 we've been doing this online since 2020
iBz4-nzRH9k-01107-00248248-00248582 um i think in the last four
iBz4-nzRH9k-01108-00248583-00248839 four times we normally do
iBz4-nzRH9k-01109-00248840-00249103 uh two different instructor trainings
iBz4-nzRH9k-01110-00249104-00249375 per year and we give them enough we try
iBz4-nzRH9k-01111-00249376-00249687 to fill the spaces but as lex also said
iBz4-nzRH9k-01112-00249688-00249934 we do have a large drop out
iBz4-nzRH9k-01113-00249935-00250119 or a no-show actually
iBz4-nzRH9k-01114-00250119-00250310 number so we try and get as many people
iBz4-nzRH9k-01115-00250311-00250487 as we can
iBz4-nzRH9k-01116-00250488-00250655 our problem or the challenges that we
iBz4-nzRH9k-01117-00250656-00250782 have with instructor training
iBz4-nzRH9k-01118-00250783-00251039 specifically people don't check out uh
iBz4-nzRH9k-01119-00251040-00251158 they're really interested when you
iBz4-nzRH9k-01120-00251159-00251334 present everything to them they don't
iBz4-nzRH9k-01121-00251335-00251558 check out i don't know if the checkout
iBz4-nzRH9k-01122-00251559-00251806 is a little bit intimidating to them i
iBz4-nzRH9k-01123-00251807-00252079 try to guide them through it as we go
iBz4-nzRH9k-01124-00252080-00252334 our onboarding specifically the nw's
iBz4-nzRH9k-01125-00252335-00252487 onboarding i think
iBz4-nzRH9k-01126-00252488-00252687 should be done better
iBz4-nzRH9k-01127-00252688-00252871 uh i think we need to communicate a
iBz4-nzRH9k-01128-00252871-00253030 little bit better stay in touch a little
iBz4-nzRH9k-01129-00253031-00253151 bit more
iBz4-nzRH9k-01130-00253152-00253351 um we also have a lot of people that
iBz4-nzRH9k-01131-00253352-00253582 leave the institution go and work in the
iBz4-nzRH9k-01132-00253583-00253758 industry or just go to other
iBz4-nzRH9k-01133-00253759-00253879 institutions
iBz4-nzRH9k-01134-00253880-00254055 and i call them token instructors we
iBz4-nzRH9k-01135-00254056-00254239 have people that come doing stux
iBz4-nzRH9k-01136-00254240-00254327 training
iBz4-nzRH9k-01137-00254328-00254415 they
iBz4-nzRH9k-01138-00254416-00254567 do the whole training they check out and
iBz4-nzRH9k-01139-00254567-00254734 then you never hear from them again they
iBz4-nzRH9k-01140-00254735-00254871 never teach again
iBz4-nzRH9k-01141-00254871-00254942 so
iBz4-nzRH9k-01142-00254944-00255094 it's like a tick box boom i'm a
iBz4-nzRH9k-01143-00255096-00255367 instructor now and that's it
iBz4-nzRH9k-01144-00255367-00255663 so what are the challenges that we
iBz4-nzRH9k-01145-00255664-00255998 face on a daily basis
iBz4-nzRH9k-01146-00256000-00256198 organizing workshops is a lot of time
iBz4-nzRH9k-01147-00256200-00256423 and effort especially for online
iBz4-nzRH9k-01148-00256423-00256630 although you only maybe teach for after
iBz4-nzRH9k-01149-00256631-00256846 size still the same amount of effort
iBz4-nzRH9k-01150-00256848-00257263 from my site from the host side
iBz4-nzRH9k-01151-00257264-00257351 we
iBz4-nzRH9k-01152-00257352-00257542 have a lot of people that sign up and
iBz4-nzRH9k-01153-00257544-00257719 then show up
iBz4-nzRH9k-01154-00257719-00257903 i still don't know how to
iBz4-nzRH9k-01155-00257904-00258055 motivate them a little bit better to
iBz4-nzRH9k-01156-00258056-00258279 sign up so we have a large signing up
iBz4-nzRH9k-01157-00258280-00258503 number and then when you get to the
iBz4-nzRH9k-01158-00258504-00258671 workshop you have four or five people
iBz4-nzRH9k-01159-00258671-00258934 that attend and some of them also filter
iBz4-nzRH9k-01160-00258935-00259127 out throughout the time
iBz4-nzRH9k-01161-00259128-00259271 um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01162-00259271-00259542 what our community really needs now is
iBz4-nzRH9k-01163-00259544-00259767 to re-establish the study groups that we
iBz4-nzRH9k-01164-00259767-00259887 had
iBz4-nzRH9k-01165-00259888-00260230 to get better after workshop support and
iBz4-nzRH9k-01166-00260231-00260430 we used to have a general q a session
iBz4-nzRH9k-01167-00260431-00260679 where people could log on to a specific
iBz4-nzRH9k-01168-00260680-00261030 session or we get together at a place on
iBz4-nzRH9k-01169-00261031-00261351 campus and then we work through specific
iBz4-nzRH9k-01170-00261352-00261630 questions um specific
iBz4-nzRH9k-01171-00261631-00261887 ideas within the community so i think
iBz4-nzRH9k-01172-00261888-00262071 that's something i really need to look
iBz4-nzRH9k-01173-00262071-00262271 at again
iBz4-nzRH9k-01174-00262272-00262439 yeah and that's
iBz4-nzRH9k-01175-00262440-00262719 that's my story um just one thing to
iBz4-nzRH9k-01176-00262720-00262903 mention we used to work with mozilla
iBz4-nzRH9k-01177-00262904-00263143 science a lot um it sort of died down a
iBz4-nzRH9k-01178-00263144-00263334 little bit since
iBz4-nzRH9k-01179-00263335-00263534 one of my colleagues left so that's also
iBz4-nzRH9k-01180-00263535-00263751 something that i think we we can pick up
iBz4-nzRH9k-01181-00263752-00263999 again so if you need any info you can
iBz4-nzRH9k-01182-00264000-00264319 email us at e-research at nwac zeta or
iBz4-nzRH9k-01183-00264320-00264471 you can just email me
iBz4-nzRH9k-01184-00264472-00264775 and you can find me on twitter or github
iBz4-nzRH9k-01185-00264776-00265606 and we also have nw github as well
iBz4-nzRH9k-01186-00265607-00265847 thank you martin
iBz4-nzRH9k-01187-00265848-00266079 that was also really interesting
iBz4-nzRH9k-01188-00266080-00266255 and i see
iBz4-nzRH9k-01189-00266256-00267343 we also have some questions for you
iBz4-nzRH9k-01190-00267344-00267655 okay so first thank you to everyone
iBz4-nzRH9k-01191-00267656-00267830 from the panelists
iBz4-nzRH9k-01192-00267831-00268063 uh i see in the ether pad that we
iBz4-nzRH9k-01193-00268064-00268271 collected some questions and i would
iBz4-nzRH9k-01194-00268272-00268463 like to start with them
iBz4-nzRH9k-01195-00268464-00268639 uh so the
iBz4-nzRH9k-01196-00268640-00268863 first two are from me
iBz4-nzRH9k-01197-00268864-00268894 um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01198-00268895-00269103 [Music]
iBz4-nzRH9k-01199-00269104-00269351 so do you see a difference in offering
iBz4-nzRH9k-01200-00269352-00269519 only single lessons you talked about
iBz4-nzRH9k-01201-00269520-00269687 that you mostly do
iBz4-nzRH9k-01202-00269688-00269999 workshops with a single lesson
iBz4-nzRH9k-01203-00270000-00270079 and
iBz4-nzRH9k-01204-00270080-00270375 do you feel it is better received by the
iBz4-nzRH9k-01205-00270376-00270606 learners than doing an official workshop
iBz4-nzRH9k-01206-00270607-00270934 with three or four lessons
iBz4-nzRH9k-01207-00270935-00271063 it's a good question because we never
iBz4-nzRH9k-01208-00271064-00271375 asked people
iBz4-nzRH9k-01209-00271376-00271695 it was a decision based on
iBz4-nzRH9k-01210-00271696-00271887 is easier to organize
iBz4-nzRH9k-01211-00271888-00272110 to get an infrastructure and helpers for
iBz4-nzRH9k-01212-00272111-00272375 one lesson for a day or two updates
iBz4-nzRH9k-01213-00272376-00272558 than trying to get it all together for
iBz4-nzRH9k-01214-00272559-00272655 four
iBz4-nzRH9k-01215-00272656-00272951 half days or two full days
iBz4-nzRH9k-01216-00272952-00273011 um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01217-00273012-00273134 [Music]
iBz4-nzRH9k-01218-00273135-00273334 so but we should have maybe asked them
iBz4-nzRH9k-01219-00273335-00273527 and i think there's also an interest in
iBz4-nzRH9k-01220-00273528-00273734 occasionally doing it to their workshop
iBz4-nzRH9k-01221-00273735-00273879 maybe even
iBz4-nzRH9k-01222-00273880-00274047 flying an instructor to teach something
iBz4-nzRH9k-01223-00274048-00274182 that we normally wouldn't teach or
iBz4-nzRH9k-01224-00274183-00274375 something like that or get some external
iBz4-nzRH9k-01225-00274376-00274527 experience on networking
iBz4-nzRH9k-01226-00274528-00274663 so i don't really know how to answer
iBz4-nzRH9k-01227-00274664-00274919 your question i have to investigate
iBz4-nzRH9k-01228-00274920-00275182 okay but it's um i just wonder because
iBz4-nzRH9k-01229-00275183-00275399 we are now going to start to do this
iBz4-nzRH9k-01230-00275400-00275487 also
iBz4-nzRH9k-01231-00275488-00275647 we usually do
iBz4-nzRH9k-01232-00275648-00275934 um official workshops but now
iBz4-nzRH9k-01233-00275935-00276095 thinking about
iBz4-nzRH9k-01234-00276096-00276423 um yeah everybody has no time so
iBz4-nzRH9k-01235-00276424-00276671 why not do just one lesson
iBz4-nzRH9k-01236-00276672-00276758 um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01237-00276759-00276982 okay and my other question was how often
iBz4-nzRH9k-01238-00276983-00277134 i can quickly quickly add because i
iBz4-nzRH9k-01239-00277135-00277375 think it also comes a bit from there
iBz4-nzRH9k-01240-00277376-00277534 at the end of day two people will be
iBz4-nzRH9k-01241-00277535-00277823 very tired and maybe not and they may
iBz4-nzRH9k-01242-00277824-00278055 not absorb as much as they would do
iBz4-nzRH9k-01243-00278056-00278215 if they had a break and took the next
iBz4-nzRH9k-01244-00278216-00278399 part a week later so that's also part of
iBz4-nzRH9k-01245-00278400-00278519 that at least that's what we think but
iBz4-nzRH9k-01246-00278520-00278727 we don't have any data
iBz4-nzRH9k-01247-00278728-00278919 do you have the feeling that you also
iBz4-nzRH9k-01248-00278920-00279175 have more time for one lesson if you
iBz4-nzRH9k-01249-00279176-00279455 split them so yes so for example if we
iBz4-nzRH9k-01250-00279456-00279630 took the unique lesson normally it
iBz4-nzRH9k-01251-00279631-00279823 would be like in the morning
iBz4-nzRH9k-01252-00279824-00279975 but we take the morning and take an hour
iBz4-nzRH9k-01253-00279976-00280175 after lunch to finish it up so you have
iBz4-nzRH9k-01254-00280176-00280455 a bit less stress you get a bit further
iBz4-nzRH9k-01255-00280456-00280679 ahead you can do more exercises
iBz4-nzRH9k-01256-00280680-00280887 so that's also a benefit from the
iBz4-nzRH9k-01257-00280888-00280991 instructor
iBz4-nzRH9k-01258-00280992-00281119 instructor side
iBz4-nzRH9k-01259-00281120-00281223 okay
iBz4-nzRH9k-01260-00281224-00281463 that's what i thought
iBz4-nzRH9k-01261-00281464-00281703 okay and my other question was uh how
iBz4-nzRH9k-01262-00281704-00281975 often do you do the mentoring session um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01263-00281976-00282206 to check on the instructors
iBz4-nzRH9k-01264-00282207-00282415 we do them monthly
iBz4-nzRH9k-01265-00282416-00282606 okay so since they have 90 days that
iBz4-nzRH9k-01266-00282607-00282806 would be like if everybody was perfectly
iBz4-nzRH9k-01267-00282807-00282975 finishing the checkout in 90 days we
iBz4-nzRH9k-01268-00282976-00283127 have three mentoring sessions and maybe
iBz4-nzRH9k-01269-00283128-00283295 one to make sure that they transition
iBz4-nzRH9k-01270-00283296-00283430 into teaching
iBz4-nzRH9k-01271-00283431-00283551 but of course most people will be
iBz4-nzRH9k-01272-00283552-00283743 delayed so we talk a little about that
iBz4-nzRH9k-01273-00283744-00283958 don't forget to ask for an extension
iBz4-nzRH9k-01274-00283959-00284047 maybe
iBz4-nzRH9k-01275-00284048-00284175 people are worried that it's not
iBz4-nzRH9k-01276-00284176-00284343 possible or easy or we can help them
iBz4-nzRH9k-01277-00284344-00284558 with that and
iBz4-nzRH9k-01278-00284559-00284791 so we have had i think four meetings
iBz4-nzRH9k-01279-00284792-00284951 with the current
iBz4-nzRH9k-01280-00284952-00285079 court
iBz4-nzRH9k-01281-00285080-00285382 and i hope we can have another one
iBz4-nzRH9k-01282-00285383-00285703 so you um start to meet before the
iBz4-nzRH9k-01283-00285704-00285951 checkout right so when the instructor
iBz4-nzRH9k-01284-00285952-00286206 training starts you already
iBz4-nzRH9k-01285-00286207-00286471 look for them yeah first meeting is
iBz4-nzRH9k-01286-00286472-00286703 a week or so after the
iBz4-nzRH9k-01287-00286704-00286967 training two weeks maybe
iBz4-nzRH9k-01288-00286968-00287054 yeah
iBz4-nzRH9k-01289-00287055-00287303 okay interesting
iBz4-nzRH9k-01290-00287304-00287342 um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01291-00287343-00287495 [Music]
iBz4-nzRH9k-01292-00287496-00287775 there are other questions i think i can
iBz4-nzRH9k-01293-00287776-00288071 read them for you uh one is for michael
iBz4-nzRH9k-01294-00288072-00288327 is there interest in your community to
iBz4-nzRH9k-01295-00288328-00288687 develop carpentry style lessons
iBz4-nzRH9k-01296-00288688-00288787 well um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01297-00288788-00288943 [Music]
iBz4-nzRH9k-01298-00288944-00289199 yes there's interest but at the at the
iBz4-nzRH9k-01299-00289200-00289582 moment we try not to reinvent the will
iBz4-nzRH9k-01300-00289583-00289882 so we take advantage of
iBz4-nzRH9k-01301-00289883-00290215 already carpentry's materials to you
iBz4-nzRH9k-01302-00290216-00290439 know
iBz4-nzRH9k-01303-00290440-00290654 do our workshops and
iBz4-nzRH9k-01304-00290655-00290982 i think from also my experience
iBz4-nzRH9k-01305-00290983-00291263 learning some of the concepts
iBz4-nzRH9k-01306-00291264-00291543 using the these materials actually
iBz4-nzRH9k-01307-00291544-00291799 the the content is really really uh
iBz4-nzRH9k-01308-00291800-00291958 [Music]
iBz4-nzRH9k-01309-00291959-00292215 good and i mean it's
iBz4-nzRH9k-01310-00292216-00292503 for novices get to understand it better
iBz4-nzRH9k-01311-00292504-00292647 so
iBz4-nzRH9k-01312-00292648-00292879 i don't know maybe if we we
iBz4-nzRH9k-01313-00292880-00293143 see if we can also adapt it to our
iBz4-nzRH9k-01314-00293144-00293375 community but i i'm always comfortable
iBz4-nzRH9k-01315-00293376-00293806 using the material here
iBz4-nzRH9k-01316-00293807-00293895 okay
iBz4-nzRH9k-01317-00293896-00294143 um anymore yeah legs
iBz4-nzRH9k-01318-00294144-00294239 yes
iBz4-nzRH9k-01319-00294240-00294423 i asked this question because i
iBz4-nzRH9k-01320-00294424-00294534 uh
iBz4-nzRH9k-01321-00294535-00294815 we also i'm from bioinformatics myself
iBz4-nzRH9k-01322-00294816-00295023 my background or my work area and i'm
iBz4-nzRH9k-01323-00295024-00295279 teaching a lot but i do see
iBz4-nzRH9k-01324-00295280-00295454 so many people from life science
iBz4-nzRH9k-01325-00295455-00295799 attending workshops here and elsewhere
iBz4-nzRH9k-01326-00295800-00296071 so there's a probably a huge market for
iBz4-nzRH9k-01327-00296072-00296327 for example an rna-seq sorry about the
iBz4-nzRH9k-01328-00296328-00296558 target an rna-seq lesson or a gypsy
iBz4-nzRH9k-01329-00296559-00296791 lesson or a variant calling lesson and
iBz4-nzRH9k-01330-00296792-00296975 data carpentry has some genomics lesson
iBz4-nzRH9k-01331-00296976-00297223 but there's like a huge potential
iBz4-nzRH9k-01332-00297224-00297406 i think it would be really cool if
iBz4-nzRH9k-01333-00297407-00297630 groups like you and also maybe others
iBz4-nzRH9k-01334-00297631-00297815 put together these kind of lessons in
iBz4-nzRH9k-01335-00297816-00298015 the incubator and see if they can
iBz4-nzRH9k-01336-00298016-00298199 make them as good as the other lessons
iBz4-nzRH9k-01337-00298200-00298447 that we already have that's my hope for
iBz4-nzRH9k-01338-00298448-00298606 the future
iBz4-nzRH9k-01339-00298607-00298895 oh yeah for sure for sure so if i get
iBz4-nzRH9k-01340-00298896-00299191 correctly more additional uh
iBz4-nzRH9k-01341-00299192-00299463 content yeah yeah bioinformatics life
iBz4-nzRH9k-01342-00299464-00300230 science specific for carpenter styles
iBz4-nzRH9k-01343-00300231-00300454 all right and then we have another
iBz4-nzRH9k-01344-00300455-00300839 question to martin since you have 30
iBz4-nzRH9k-01345-00300840-00301087 seats do you do your instructor training
iBz4-nzRH9k-01346-00301088-00301343 workshops in person if yes do you see a
iBz4-nzRH9k-01347-00301344-00301510 difference compared to online for
iBz4-nzRH9k-01348-00301511-00301695 example when it comes to
iBz4-nzRH9k-01349-00301696-00302023 community building
iBz4-nzRH9k-01350-00302024-00302110 okay
iBz4-nzRH9k-01351-00302111-00302487 we used to be pandemic days yes we did
iBz4-nzRH9k-01352-00302488-00302567 do
iBz4-nzRH9k-01353-00302568-00302806 all our instructor trainings in person
iBz4-nzRH9k-01354-00302807-00303047 we also had some over push grant
iBz4-nzRH9k-01355-00303048-00303310 instructor training sessions and i do
iBz4-nzRH9k-01356-00303311-00303519 see a massive
iBz4-nzRH9k-01357-00303520-00303710 i want to say difference
iBz4-nzRH9k-01358-00303711-00303879 in checking out
iBz4-nzRH9k-01359-00303880-00304110 becoming part of the community
iBz4-nzRH9k-01360-00304111-00304271 being a part of the community in the
iBz4-nzRH9k-01361-00304272-00304558 long term um in the on
iBz4-nzRH9k-01362-00304559-00304791 compared to online i think online is a
iBz4-nzRH9k-01363-00304792-00304991 little bit um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01364-00304992-00305167 the in person is more
iBz4-nzRH9k-01365-00305168-00305495 uh i want to say uh you you can do more
iBz4-nzRH9k-01366-00305496-00305630 it's more
iBz4-nzRH9k-01367-00305631-00305727 uh
iBz4-nzRH9k-01368-00305728-00305887 you you draw them into the community a
iBz4-nzRH9k-01369-00305888-00306030 little bit more they have more time to
iBz4-nzRH9k-01370-00306031-00306279 talk to you within the breaks uh network
iBz4-nzRH9k-01371-00306280-00306439 with their colleagues and stuff
iBz4-nzRH9k-01372-00306440-00306647 compared to online uh when you take a
iBz4-nzRH9k-01373-00306648-00306839 break you're on your own so you have no
iBz4-nzRH9k-01374-00306840-00307110 one to talk to um although you like i
iBz4-nzRH9k-01375-00307111-00307287 always make sure to give them
iBz4-nzRH9k-01376-00307288-00307575 uh enough places where they can find me
iBz4-nzRH9k-01377-00307576-00307830 if they really want some on uh to ask me
iBz4-nzRH9k-01378-00307831-00308015 some questions or become part of the
iBz4-nzRH9k-01379-00308016-00308134 community
iBz4-nzRH9k-01380-00308135-00308382 but i i do think we're going to move
iBz4-nzRH9k-01381-00308383-00308487 back to
iBz4-nzRH9k-01382-00308488-00308863 in person again by the end of this year
iBz4-nzRH9k-01383-00308864-00309039 because i want i want people to to
iBz4-nzRH9k-01384-00309040-00309303 become part of the community we like yes
iBz4-nzRH9k-01385-00309304-00309551 i definitely see a difference
iBz4-nzRH9k-01386-00309552-00309791 we try to get at least 10 people to
iBz4-nzRH9k-01387-00309792-00310030 check out every year as you might know
iBz4-nzRH9k-01388-00310031-00310206 even though we have 30 seats not all of
iBz4-nzRH9k-01389-00310207-00310447 them check out so you get people that
iBz4-nzRH9k-01390-00310448-00310615 want to be instructors so bad and they
iBz4-nzRH9k-01391-00310616-00310806 do the checkout real quickly and other
iBz4-nzRH9k-01392-00310807-00310967 people just
iBz4-nzRH9k-01393-00310968-00311143 you know life happens so they never
iBz4-nzRH9k-01394-00311144-00311303 really check out and they don't come
iBz4-nzRH9k-01395-00311304-00311551 back or they start working in another
iBz4-nzRH9k-01396-00311552-00311791 environment and stuff like that so yeah
iBz4-nzRH9k-01397-00311792-00311951 there's definitely a difference in my
iBz4-nzRH9k-01398-00311952-00312551 environment
iBz4-nzRH9k-01399-00312552-00312871 okay thank you martin
iBz4-nzRH9k-01400-00312872-00313375 uh additional comments on that
iBz4-nzRH9k-01401-00313376-00313647 i can add one small thing
iBz4-nzRH9k-01402-00313648-00313847 we have experimented once with because
iBz4-nzRH9k-01403-00313848-00314039 we only have five seats six earlier and
iBz4-nzRH9k-01404-00314040-00314215 now five
iBz4-nzRH9k-01405-00314216-00314391 to have them sign up to the same
iBz4-nzRH9k-01406-00314392-00314591 training and put them together offer
iBz4-nzRH9k-01407-00314592-00314791 them a room to sit together in with good
iBz4-nzRH9k-01408-00314792-00314975 wi-fi and a good screen and everything
iBz4-nzRH9k-01409-00314976-00315143 when they do the training
iBz4-nzRH9k-01410-00315144-00315263 and i think we should try it again
iBz4-nzRH9k-01411-00315264-00315415 because it may actually
iBz4-nzRH9k-01412-00315416-00315591 those people then get connected already
iBz4-nzRH9k-01413-00315592-00315727 before they
iBz4-nzRH9k-01414-00315728-00315871 try to check out and before they become
iBz4-nzRH9k-01415-00315872-00316006 part of the community
iBz4-nzRH9k-01416-00316007-00316175 it's logistically not always easy
iBz4-nzRH9k-01417-00316176-00316351 because people might want to do training
iBz4-nzRH9k-01418-00316352-00316479 from home and stuff like that but it
iBz4-nzRH9k-01419-00316480-00317639 isn't an option
iBz4-nzRH9k-01420-00317640-00317751 okay
iBz4-nzRH9k-01421-00317752-00318079 there's one more question to all of us
iBz4-nzRH9k-01422-00318080-00318199 um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01423-00318200-00318415 thank you for your presentations i'm
iBz4-nzRH9k-01424-00318416-00318606 interested in which lessons from library
iBz4-nzRH9k-01425-00318607-00318815 carpentry have been in demand or proved
iBz4-nzRH9k-01426-00318816-00319079 useful among your communities
iBz4-nzRH9k-01427-00319080-00319343 um i can speak for myself
iBz4-nzRH9k-01428-00319344-00319575 as i'm working in a library
iBz4-nzRH9k-01429-00319576-00319887 and we do the workshops so the
iBz4-nzRH9k-01430-00319888-00320175 one workshop we always do and
iBz4-nzRH9k-01431-00320176-00320463 with what we started was
iBz4-nzRH9k-01432-00320464-00320751 the workshop with a shell with the shell
iBz4-nzRH9k-01433-00320752-00320854 lesson
iBz4-nzRH9k-01434-00320855-00321182 a git lesson and python
iBz4-nzRH9k-01435-00321183-00321399 um this is what we
iBz4-nzRH9k-01436-00321400-00321734 started to do and we got great feedback
iBz4-nzRH9k-01437-00321735-00321871 from that
iBz4-nzRH9k-01438-00321872-00322015 um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01439-00322016-00322310 and what we also do is another workshop
iBz4-nzRH9k-01440-00322311-00322495 with sql
iBz4-nzRH9k-01441-00322496-00322710 the wikidata lesson
iBz4-nzRH9k-01442-00322711-00322871 and the
iBz4-nzRH9k-01443-00322872-00323175 tidy data lesson or tidy data and
iBz4-nzRH9k-01444-00323176-00323404 software lesson and um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01445-00323405-00323543 [Music]
iBz4-nzRH9k-01446-00323544-00323703 the
iBz4-nzRH9k-01447-00323704-00323903 let me think the
iBz4-nzRH9k-01448-00323904-00324103 uh the tidy data lesson and the fair and
iBz4-nzRH9k-01449-00324104-00324343 data software lesson
iBz4-nzRH9k-01450-00324344-00324639 so these are our two um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01451-00324640-00324871 workshop styles that we
iBz4-nzRH9k-01452-00324872-00325087 do and
iBz4-nzRH9k-01453-00325088-00325382 we always get good feedback feedback for
iBz4-nzRH9k-01454-00325383-00325679 that
iBz4-nzRH9k-01455-00325680-00326951 what about the others
iBz4-nzRH9k-01456-00326952-00327767 no other libraries
iBz4-nzRH9k-01457-00327768-00327839 thank involved
iBz4-nzRH9k-01458-00327840-00328119 uh ravi that was my question
iBz4-nzRH9k-01459-00328120-00328358 so that's that's really good to hear um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01460-00328359-00328503 it's um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01461-00328504-00328663 i'm really i'd like to talk with you
iBz4-nzRH9k-01462-00328664-00328806 later on about the fair and data
iBz4-nzRH9k-01463-00328807-00329015 software lesson too and
iBz4-nzRH9k-01464-00329016-00329319 people's enthusiasm for that
iBz4-nzRH9k-01465-00329320-00329534 it may be side
iBz4-nzRH9k-01466-00329535-00329815 sideways to other people's interests
iBz4-nzRH9k-01467-00329816-00329999 thank you
iBz4-nzRH9k-01468-00330000-00330223 you're welcome
iBz4-nzRH9k-01469-00330224-00330847 okay do you have any other questions
iBz4-nzRH9k-01470-00330848-00331054 you can also write them in the chat or
iBz4-nzRH9k-01471-00331055-00332782 raise your hand
iBz4-nzRH9k-01472-00332783-00333063 so um i have another question for every
iBz4-nzRH9k-01473-00333064-00333495 one of us um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01474-00333496-00333830 we saw some uh challenges from you
iBz4-nzRH9k-01475-00333831-00334047 about access and
iBz4-nzRH9k-01476-00334048-00334215 i would like to know what in your
iBz4-nzRH9k-01477-00334216-00334495 opinion is needed to ensure access to
iBz4-nzRH9k-01478-00334496-00334710 the carpentry's community and its
iBz4-nzRH9k-01479-00334711-00334958 resources so
iBz4-nzRH9k-01480-00334959-00335215 for example institutional memberships
iBz4-nzRH9k-01481-00335216-00335471 allow individuals to support their
iBz4-nzRH9k-01482-00335472-00335751 community through paid staff time in
iBz4-nzRH9k-01483-00335752-00335934 some cases
iBz4-nzRH9k-01484-00335935-00336134 most resources workshops are in the
iBz4-nzRH9k-01485-00336135-00336351 english languages maybe this is
iBz4-nzRH9k-01486-00336352-00336454 something
iBz4-nzRH9k-01487-00336455-00336775 um you challenge or your infrastructure
iBz4-nzRH9k-01488-00336776-00336975 challenges that we heard like the
iBz4-nzRH9k-01489-00336976-00337151 internet access
iBz4-nzRH9k-01490-00337152-00337278 um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01491-00337279-00337382 yeah so
iBz4-nzRH9k-01492-00337383-00337654 what do you think is needed from the
iBz4-nzRH9k-01494-00341392-00341630 i know this is a big question
iBz4-nzRH9k-01495-00341631-00341854 i'm asking because uh this is something
iBz4-nzRH9k-01496-00341855-00342191 we talk about in the community
iBz4-nzRH9k-01497-00342192-00342454 uh development program so how what can
iBz4-nzRH9k-01498-00342455-00342615 the carpentries do
iBz4-nzRH9k-01499-00342616-00342863 to um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01500-00342864-00343071 to ensure your excess
iBz4-nzRH9k-01501-00343072-00343151 and
iBz4-nzRH9k-01502-00343152-00343263 maybe
iBz4-nzRH9k-01503-00343264-00343758 we have to think about that longer
iBz4-nzRH9k-01504-00343759-00344071 maybe i can jump in um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01505-00344072-00344278 i i think uh
iBz4-nzRH9k-01506-00344279-00344582 it's recently that uh instructor like
iBz4-nzRH9k-01507-00344583-00344791 for example the instructor training
iBz4-nzRH9k-01508-00344792-00345103 these uh small incentive for
iBz4-nzRH9k-01509-00345104-00345230 internet
iBz4-nzRH9k-01510-00345231-00345503 especially for african countries
iBz4-nzRH9k-01511-00345504-00345678 so which is
iBz4-nzRH9k-01512-00345679-00345882 really a good initiative
iBz4-nzRH9k-01513-00345883-00346054 to
iBz4-nzRH9k-01514-00346055-00346319 make sure all the participants actually
iBz4-nzRH9k-01515-00346320-00346463 attend so
iBz4-nzRH9k-01516-00346464-00346943 so far so good yeah that was a good idea
iBz4-nzRH9k-01517-00346944-00347399 great that's good to hear
iBz4-nzRH9k-01518-00347400-00347495 um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01519-00347496-00347751 i think coming back to going back a few
iBz4-nzRH9k-01520-00347752-00348063 years we really never had the regional
iBz4-nzRH9k-01521-00348064-00348206 coordinators
iBz4-nzRH9k-01522-00348207-00348423 and i think
iBz4-nzRH9k-01523-00348424-00348639 having the regional coordinators now
iBz4-nzRH9k-01524-00348640-00348839 has brought a whole new dimension to the
iBz4-nzRH9k-01525-00348840-00349071 carpentries and building the community
iBz4-nzRH9k-01526-00349072-00349278 within an environment
iBz4-nzRH9k-01527-00349279-00349439 because you were sort of on your own for
iBz4-nzRH9k-01528-00349440-00349743 long and if like we did a bunch of
iBz4-nzRH9k-01529-00349744-00349999 workshops at nwu
iBz4-nzRH9k-01530-00350000-00350182 and when we wanted to start building the
iBz4-nzRH9k-01531-00350183-00350367 community we went to the other
iBz4-nzRH9k-01532-00350368-00350647 universities like uct and we went to uh
iBz4-nzRH9k-01533-00350648-00350806 university of vendar and we went to
iBz4-nzRH9k-01534-00350807-00351063 pretoria and so on and we
iBz4-nzRH9k-01535-00351064-00351319 introduced them to the community and two
iBz4-nzRH9k-01536-00351320-00351471 carpentries and we had a lot of
iBz4-nzRH9k-01537-00351472-00351647 workshops there python workshops and
iBz4-nzRH9k-01538-00351648-00351871 other workshops and stuff and
iBz4-nzRH9k-01539-00351872-00352103 having the original coordinator now that
iBz4-nzRH9k-01540-00352104-00352278 can speak to a bunch of different
iBz4-nzRH9k-01541-00352279-00352430 universities
iBz4-nzRH9k-01542-00352431-00352678 i think is great um and
iBz4-nzRH9k-01543-00352679-00352863 it's it's one of the initiatives one of
iBz4-nzRH9k-01544-00352864-00353087 the things that that really helped me
iBz4-nzRH9k-01545-00353088-00353367 having somebody to bounce ideas off and
iBz4-nzRH9k-01546-00353368-00353567 tell listen we want this is our plan for
iBz4-nzRH9k-01547-00353568-00353734 the next year
iBz4-nzRH9k-01548-00353735-00353934 what do you think can you introduce us
iBz4-nzRH9k-01549-00353935-00354158 to some people and i think
iBz4-nzRH9k-01550-00354159-00354351 your the original coordinates being part
iBz4-nzRH9k-01551-00354352-00354551 of the core team i think that's one of
iBz4-nzRH9k-01552-00354552-00354751 the best ideas that companies had in the
iBz4-nzRH9k-01553-00354752-00355295 last five years
iBz4-nzRH9k-01554-00355296-00355478 great
iBz4-nzRH9k-01555-00355479-00355758 i like to hear that
iBz4-nzRH9k-01556-00355759-00355958 and i think it's uh
iBz4-nzRH9k-01557-00355959-00356127 becoming even
iBz4-nzRH9k-01558-00356128-00356358 better with the new program so that you
iBz4-nzRH9k-01559-00356359-00356551 don't only have it for the regional
iBz4-nzRH9k-01560-00356552-00357358 aspect but for the subjects
iBz4-nzRH9k-01561-00357359-00357703 can you explain that a bit more
iBz4-nzRH9k-01562-00357704-00358006 um that's what i talked about in my uh
iBz4-nzRH9k-01563-00358007-00358319 speech so i
iBz4-nzRH9k-01564-00358320-00358551 i have the feeling that sometimes i'm
iBz4-nzRH9k-01565-00358552-00358806 not the right person to speak because
iBz4-nzRH9k-01566-00358807-00358934 i'm
iBz4-nzRH9k-01567-00358935-00359030 more
iBz4-nzRH9k-01568-00359031-00359081 um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01569-00359082-00359230 [Music]
iBz4-nzRH9k-01570-00359231-00359527 yeah for the general stuff and not for
iBz4-nzRH9k-01571-00359528-00359719 the specific so
iBz4-nzRH9k-01572-00359720-00359967 maybe there's a group of bioinformatics
iBz4-nzRH9k-01573-00359968-00360127 who want to know
iBz4-nzRH9k-01574-00360128-00360327 which list lesson they can use and they
iBz4-nzRH9k-01575-00360328-00360503 could ask toby
iBz4-nzRH9k-01576-00360504-00360791 but maybe they can ask a
iBz4-nzRH9k-01577-00360792-00361134 community coordinator who is
iBz4-nzRH9k-01578-00361135-00361399 exactly for that reason a coordinator
iBz4-nzRH9k-01579-00361400-00361591 and can help them
iBz4-nzRH9k-01580-00361592-00361782 so i just see it with
iBz4-nzRH9k-01581-00361783-00362063 having three different regions i'm not
iBz4-nzRH9k-01582-00362064-00362303 always capable to
iBz4-nzRH9k-01583-00362304-00362463 cover everything
iBz4-nzRH9k-01584-00362464-00362558 and
iBz4-nzRH9k-01585-00362559-00363015 would like to see more coordinator for
iBz4-nzRH9k-01586-00363016-00363406 different reasons
iBz4-nzRH9k-01587-00363407-00364278 thanks i understand looks useful
iBz4-nzRH9k-01588-00364279-00364678 okay um one thing i would
iBz4-nzRH9k-01589-00364679-00364958 ask you i saw it in
iBz4-nzRH9k-01590-00364959-00365167 some of your presentations but
iBz4-nzRH9k-01591-00365168-00365423 uh what do you do to support people
iBz4-nzRH9k-01592-00365424-00365671 after the workshop so
iBz4-nzRH9k-01593-00365672-00365975 for example we offer a hacky hour which
iBz4-nzRH9k-01594-00365976-00366134 is um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01595-00366135-00366454 yeah an hour in our institution
iBz4-nzRH9k-01596-00366455-00366710 where everybody can join and you can
iBz4-nzRH9k-01597-00366711-00366951 bring your little problem or project you
iBz4-nzRH9k-01598-00366952-00367191 want to
iBz4-nzRH9k-01599-00367192-00367351 code on together
iBz4-nzRH9k-01600-00367352-00367687 or we do a project hackathon
iBz4-nzRH9k-01601-00367688-00367919 this is what we do with participants
iBz4-nzRH9k-01602-00367920-00368095 from the workshops
iBz4-nzRH9k-01603-00368096-00368358 like six weeks later they can come with
iBz4-nzRH9k-01604-00368359-00368679 their project they started and we
iBz4-nzRH9k-01605-00368680-00368815 [Music]
iBz4-nzRH9k-01606-00368816-00369127 discuss on it in a group
iBz4-nzRH9k-01607-00369128-00369399 but maybe there are other ways that you
iBz4-nzRH9k-01608-00369400-00369543 saw for
iBz4-nzRH9k-01609-00369544-00369799 helping them after a workshop or do you
iBz4-nzRH9k-01610-00369800-00370078 think do you have the feeling that
iBz4-nzRH9k-01611-00370079-00370343 people afterwards
iBz4-nzRH9k-01612-00370344-00370639 stick on it and work on it on them on
iBz4-nzRH9k-01613-00370640-00371406 their server
iBz4-nzRH9k-01614-00371407-00371575 yes
iBz4-nzRH9k-01615-00371576-00371758 yeah this is this is my main worry
iBz4-nzRH9k-01616-00371759-00372047 always i always feel that we
iBz4-nzRH9k-01617-00372048-00372151 uh
iBz4-nzRH9k-01618-00372152-00372343 do people a disservice i mean they're
iBz4-nzRH9k-01619-00372344-00372510 getting a great workshop but then we
iBz4-nzRH9k-01620-00372511-00372695 sent them home they're on their own
iBz4-nzRH9k-01621-00372696-00372902 again
iBz4-nzRH9k-01622-00372903-00373030 and
iBz4-nzRH9k-01623-00373031-00373263 so there's a bunch of folks that in our
iBz4-nzRH9k-01624-00373264-00373478 community start at study groups based on
iBz4-nzRH9k-01625-00373479-00373663 the mozilla study groups
iBz4-nzRH9k-01626-00373664-00373895 platform or
iBz4-nzRH9k-01627-00373896-00374223 setup but they are often doing
iBz4-nzRH9k-01628-00374224-00374367 small things that are not part of
iBz4-nzRH9k-01629-00374368-00374551 lessons or
iBz4-nzRH9k-01630-00374552-00374678 somebody wants to demonstrate something
iBz4-nzRH9k-01631-00374679-00374830 and i would like love to have study
iBz4-nzRH9k-01632-00374831-00375158 groups where there's continued learning
iBz4-nzRH9k-01633-00375159-00375343 and we still haven't really figured out
iBz4-nzRH9k-01634-00375344-00375527 how to do that i think we are
iBz4-nzRH9k-01635-00375528-00375775 just so busy with getting instructors
iBz4-nzRH9k-01636-00375776-00375910 trained and getting them to teach and
iBz4-nzRH9k-01637-00375911-00376119 organizing workshops and all that that
iBz4-nzRH9k-01638-00376120-00376278 the falls between the cracks but i think
iBz4-nzRH9k-01639-00376279-00376406 it should be
iBz4-nzRH9k-01640-00376407-00376687 a really obvious next step to provide
iBz4-nzRH9k-01641-00376688-00376830 continued learning so we actually make
iBz4-nzRH9k-01642-00376831-00376991 sure that folks are able to use what
iBz4-nzRH9k-01643-00376992-00377102 they've learned in our workshops
iBz4-nzRH9k-01644-00377103-00377327 afterwards so it's for us it's a big gap
iBz4-nzRH9k-01645-00377328-00377543 and for me it's a big
iBz4-nzRH9k-01646-00377544-00377910 not a big it's a bit of a headache
iBz4-nzRH9k-01647-00377911-00378839 i have the same feeling
iBz4-nzRH9k-01648-00378840-00379071 michael
iBz4-nzRH9k-01649-00379072-00379167 um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01650-00379168-00379271 yes
iBz4-nzRH9k-01651-00379272-00379654 i think for guests we tried to like when
iBz4-nzRH9k-01652-00379655-00379902 i was sharing uh last year we
iBz4-nzRH9k-01653-00379903-00380199 we train and let the students also hack
iBz4-nzRH9k-01654-00380200-00380375 and so for for
iBz4-nzRH9k-01655-00380376-00380671 case we had uh
iBz4-nzRH9k-01656-00380672-00381030 bioinformatics workshop so we have 20 20
iBz4-nzRH9k-01657-00381031-00381199 25 students
iBz4-nzRH9k-01658-00381200-00381423 and then we provide them with five many
iBz4-nzRH9k-01659-00381424-00381558 projects
iBz4-nzRH9k-01660-00381559-00381934 of different
iBz4-nzRH9k-01661-00381935-00382278 areas of bioinformatics and we give them
iBz4-nzRH9k-01662-00382279-00382543 six weeks to do the mini project
iBz4-nzRH9k-01663-00382544-00382791 yeah and so they apply whatever they've
iBz4-nzRH9k-01664-00382792-00382982 learned in the workshop
iBz4-nzRH9k-01665-00382983-00383367 and then towards also so how these many
iBz4-nzRH9k-01666-00383368-00383575 projects are just to reproduce already
iBz4-nzRH9k-01667-00383576-00383887 published paper and so we
iBz4-nzRH9k-01668-00383888-00384071 choose a paper where we can get all the
iBz4-nzRH9k-01669-00384072-00384199 data
iBz4-nzRH9k-01670-00384200-00384447 and so then that it doesn't become a
iBz4-nzRH9k-01671-00384448-00384751 challenge for them so they reproduce and
iBz4-nzRH9k-01672-00384752-00385006 we don't always have the limit of saying
iBz4-nzRH9k-01673-00385007-00385215 oh you have to like reproduce it to the
iBz4-nzRH9k-01674-00385216-00385399 end where
iBz4-nzRH9k-01675-00385400-00385654 the analysis got you in six weeks you
iBz4-nzRH9k-01676-00385655-00385910 get to now represent present on the last
iBz4-nzRH9k-01677-00385911-00386095 week what you've done and what you've
iBz4-nzRH9k-01678-00386096-00386247 learned out of the faith
iBz4-nzRH9k-01679-00386248-00386519 so i think for us it really worked at
iBz4-nzRH9k-01680-00386520-00386743 least the students got an application or
iBz4-nzRH9k-01681-00386744-00386839 whatever
iBz4-nzRH9k-01682-00386840-00387182 they learned
iBz4-nzRH9k-01683-00387183-00387502 that's a great idea and you can also
iBz4-nzRH9k-01684-00387503-00387678 see how far they
iBz4-nzRH9k-01685-00387679-00387919 come with it
iBz4-nzRH9k-01686-00387920-00388087 yeah exactly and and
iBz4-nzRH9k-01687-00388088-00388510 weirdly you'd see even uh some analyses
iBz4-nzRH9k-01688-00388511-00388702 might be a bit different
iBz4-nzRH9k-01689-00388703-00388934 with really that what has been published
iBz4-nzRH9k-01690-00388935-00389247 and you know students get to be excited
iBz4-nzRH9k-01691-00389248-00389582 and curious about these analyses
iBz4-nzRH9k-01692-00389583-00391382 along the way
iBz4-nzRH9k-01693-00391383-00391854 okay
iBz4-nzRH9k-01694-00391855-00392078 i have no more questions do you would
iBz4-nzRH9k-01695-00392079-00392358 like to discuss
iBz4-nzRH9k-01696-00392359-00392758 any more topics that we
iBz4-nzRH9k-01697-00392759-00395343 spoke about
iBz4-nzRH9k-01698-00395344-00395575 yes michael
iBz4-nzRH9k-01699-00395576-00395775 so so i mean uh
iBz4-nzRH9k-01700-00395776-00395943 this is a picked from martin's
iBz4-nzRH9k-01701-00395944-00396127 presentation about
iBz4-nzRH9k-01702-00396128-00396447 uh participant signing in
iBz4-nzRH9k-01703-00396448-00396630 in a workshop and then
iBz4-nzRH9k-01704-00396631-00396823 either half
iBz4-nzRH9k-01705-00396824-00397015 you
iBz4-nzRH9k-01706-00397016-00397302 get the people who attend that
iBz4-nzRH9k-01707-00397303-00397454 the
iBz4-nzRH9k-01708-00397455-00397782 workshop and then half of them attend or
iBz4-nzRH9k-01709-00397783-00397999 you get a few number
iBz4-nzRH9k-01710-00398000-00398191 i don't know what
iBz4-nzRH9k-01711-00398192-00398502 people can recommend on at least making
iBz4-nzRH9k-01712-00398503-00398663 sure you
iBz4-nzRH9k-01713-00398664-00398751 get
iBz4-nzRH9k-01714-00398752-00399015 more than 80 percent of the people to
iBz4-nzRH9k-01715-00399016-00399223 attend especially for free workshops
iBz4-nzRH9k-01716-00399224-00399415 that
iBz4-nzRH9k-01717-00399416-00399615 we offer
iBz4-nzRH9k-01718-00399616-00399878 what is the best way to
iBz4-nzRH9k-01719-00399879-00400119 make sure participants actually attend
iBz4-nzRH9k-01720-00400120-00401495 these workshops
iBz4-nzRH9k-01721-00401496-00401710 yes like so
iBz4-nzRH9k-01722-00401711-00401878 if you ask the carpentry the standard
iBz4-nzRH9k-01723-00401879-00402127 answer is to charge a small fee for
iBz4-nzRH9k-01724-00402128-00402278 participating because then they have
iBz4-nzRH9k-01725-00402279-00402471 invested some money
iBz4-nzRH9k-01726-00402472-00402639 and then for example use that money to
iBz4-nzRH9k-01727-00402640-00402815 buy tea and coffee or maybe fruits or
iBz4-nzRH9k-01728-00402816-00402951 something
iBz4-nzRH9k-01729-00402952-00403095 and
iBz4-nzRH9k-01730-00403096-00403254 i think that's still a good answer but
iBz4-nzRH9k-01731-00403255-00403510 it has logistic uh problems because then
iBz4-nzRH9k-01732-00403511-00403758 you have to set up a base system and
iBz4-nzRH9k-01733-00403759-00404015 if you sometimes the universities if you
iBz4-nzRH9k-01734-00404016-00404199 charge for a workshop
iBz4-nzRH9k-01735-00404200-00404351 and use the room from the university
iBz4-nzRH9k-01736-00404352-00404463 then the university wants some of the
iBz4-nzRH9k-01737-00404464-00404606 money all these kind of things but if
iBz4-nzRH9k-01738-00404607-00404791 it's possible it may actually be a
iBz4-nzRH9k-01739-00404792-00404927 solution
iBz4-nzRH9k-01740-00404928-00405102 and beyond that what we sometimes do is
iBz4-nzRH9k-01741-00405103-00405287 we
iBz4-nzRH9k-01742-00405288-00405630 send them an email
iBz4-nzRH9k-01743-00405631-00405702 well
iBz4-nzRH9k-01744-00405703-00405910 for workshops that are really quickly
iBz4-nzRH9k-01745-00405911-00406102 fully booked we don't open them too
iBz4-nzRH9k-01746-00406103-00406295 early if you open them too early lots of
iBz4-nzRH9k-01747-00406296-00406454 people sign up completely forget about
iBz4-nzRH9k-01748-00406455-00406519 it
iBz4-nzRH9k-01749-00406520-00406678 and then i will work before the workshop
iBz4-nzRH9k-01750-00406679-00406799 they thought oh no i have something else
iBz4-nzRH9k-01751-00406800-00406951 imagined and i don't come
iBz4-nzRH9k-01752-00406952-00407102 so for the for the really popular ones
iBz4-nzRH9k-01753-00407103-00407302 we sign up quite late so it's really
iBz4-nzRH9k-01754-00407303-00407439 fresh
iBz4-nzRH9k-01755-00407440-00407647 and otherwise we could um send them
iBz4-nzRH9k-01756-00407648-00407871 reminder emails and ask and tell them
iBz4-nzRH9k-01757-00407872-00408095 that there's people on the waiting list
iBz4-nzRH9k-01758-00408096-00408254 ask them to sign off and then of course
iBz4-nzRH9k-01759-00408255-00408447 your system needs to hopefully they can
iBz4-nzRH9k-01760-00408448-00408575 sign them of themselves because it's
iBz4-nzRH9k-01761-00408576-00408782 much easier less work for you and that
iBz4-nzRH9k-01762-00408783-00408910 system then hopefully immediately
iBz4-nzRH9k-01763-00408911-00409175 assigns another person a spot
iBz4-nzRH9k-01764-00409176-00409367 but it's still it's it's still difficult
iBz4-nzRH9k-01765-00409368-00409519 you still get lots and lots of those
iBz4-nzRH9k-01766-00409520-00409943 shows
iBz4-nzRH9k-01767-00409943-00410103 toby
iBz4-nzRH9k-01768-00410104-00410318 has the company mind if i give an answer
iBz4-nzRH9k-01769-00410319-00410703 to this question
iBz4-nzRH9k-01770-00410704-00410863 in my previous job
iBz4-nzRH9k-01771-00410864-00411255 when we were running workshops um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01772-00411256-00411414 for our
iBz4-nzRH9k-01773-00411415-00411670 institute um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01774-00411671-00411751 we
iBz4-nzRH9k-01775-00411752-00412207 used the threat of a small no-show fee
iBz4-nzRH9k-01776-00412208-00412430 so the workshop was free as long as you
iBz4-nzRH9k-01777-00412431-00412647 came but we told people that if they
iBz4-nzRH9k-01778-00412647-00412814 signed up and then didn't show up then
iBz4-nzRH9k-01779-00412815-00412943 we would
iBz4-nzRH9k-01780-00412943-00413039 send an
iBz4-nzRH9k-01781-00413039-00413182 invoice
iBz4-nzRH9k-01782-00413183-00413287 to
iBz4-nzRH9k-01783-00413288-00413639 their research group leader um to charge
iBz4-nzRH9k-01784-00413639-00413855 charge for their not showing up out of
iBz4-nzRH9k-01785-00413856-00413934 the
iBz4-nzRH9k-01786-00413935-00414230 research group budget and this was
iBz4-nzRH9k-01787-00414231-00414495 well honestly it was an empty threat um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01788-00414496-00414647 that would have been that would have
iBz4-nzRH9k-01789-00414647-00414814 taken too much time and been too much
iBz4-nzRH9k-01790-00414815-00414991 work to actually do but it was extremely
iBz4-nzRH9k-01791-00414992-00415199 effective we used to get a very high
iBz4-nzRH9k-01792-00415200-00415478 no-show rate and after we did this
iBz4-nzRH9k-01793-00415479-00415759 um most people would show up or we would
iBz4-nzRH9k-01794-00415760-00416030 get at least a last minute super
iBz4-nzRH9k-01795-00416031-00416295 apologetic email um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01796-00416296-00416422 from someone who was clearly very
iBz4-nzRH9k-01797-00416423-00416647 worried that we were about to annoy
iBz4-nzRH9k-01798-00416647-00416943 their um group leader
iBz4-nzRH9k-01799-00416943-00417174 but it's
iBz4-nzRH9k-01800-00417175-00417374 it's only really effective i guess if
iBz4-nzRH9k-01801-00417375-00417470 you're
iBz4-nzRH9k-01802-00417471-00417678 offering workshops within an institute
iBz4-nzRH9k-01803-00417679-00417895 so you can use that kind of method i
iBz4-nzRH9k-01804-00417896-00418118 mean if you tell people just from the
iBz4-nzRH9k-01805-00418119-00418287 general public that if they don't show
iBz4-nzRH9k-01806-00418288-00418439 up you're going to send them an invoice
iBz4-nzRH9k-01807-00418439-00418678 then well you would to make that threat
iBz4-nzRH9k-01808-00418679-00418855 even sound convincing you need to get
iBz4-nzRH9k-01809-00418856-00419118 their postal address and so on right and
iBz4-nzRH9k-01810-00419119-00419295 i mean um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01811-00419296-00419518 it's all a lot of work but but for
iBz4-nzRH9k-01812-00419519-00419718 anybody here who's wondering about this
iBz4-nzRH9k-01813-00419719-00419847 and is running
iBz4-nzRH9k-01814-00419847-00420022 workshops internally to their
iBz4-nzRH9k-01815-00420023-00420214 organization doesn't want to actually do
iBz4-nzRH9k-01816-00420215-00420414 any charging of anybody that wants to
iBz4-nzRH9k-01817-00420415-00420647 still increase the attendance rate i can
iBz4-nzRH9k-01818-00420647-00421263 definitely recommend that method
iBz4-nzRH9k-01819-00421264-00421495 yeah i really like that idea maybe we
iBz4-nzRH9k-01820-00421496-00421695 will try that too
iBz4-nzRH9k-01821-00421696-00421975 what we also do is so i think we all
iBz4-nzRH9k-01822-00421976-00422135 have the same problem
iBz4-nzRH9k-01823-00422135-00422310 um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01824-00422312-00422551 we most of the time we offer more places
iBz4-nzRH9k-01825-00422552-00422903 than we really want to fill so
iBz4-nzRH9k-01826-00422904-00423231 our workshops are planned for 20
iBz4-nzRH9k-01827-00423232-00423599 uh participants of students and we offer
iBz4-nzRH9k-01828-00423600-00423918 40 play uh 40 seats
iBz4-nzRH9k-01829-00423919-00424118 because
iBz4-nzRH9k-01830-00424119-00424303 uh in general 50
iBz4-nzRH9k-01831-00424304-00424455 will not
iBz4-nzRH9k-01832-00424456-00424614 show up
iBz4-nzRH9k-01833-00424615-00424814 it's a little bit risky
iBz4-nzRH9k-01834-00424815-00424895 so
iBz4-nzRH9k-01835-00424896-00425183 if everybody comes we have 40 people
iBz4-nzRH9k-01836-00425184-00425463 so we do not raise it too high that we
iBz4-nzRH9k-01837-00425464-00425622 can't handle it if
iBz4-nzRH9k-01838-00425623-00426103 everybody would show up
iBz4-nzRH9k-01839-00426104-00426575 janetta
iBz4-nzRH9k-01840-00426576-00426751 hi can you hear me
iBz4-nzRH9k-01841-00426752-00426887 yes
iBz4-nzRH9k-01842-00426888-00428431 um yeah sorry i'm
iBz4-nzRH9k-01843-00428432-00428663 but it just doesn't work for us
iBz4-nzRH9k-01844-00428664-00428847 um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01845-00428847-00429127 they uh this is like a standing thing
iBz4-nzRH9k-01846-00429128-00429318 all workshops that are off but if people
iBz4-nzRH9k-01847-00429319-00429439 don't show
iBz4-nzRH9k-01848-00429439-00429743 they they will be trying to keep it
iBz4-nzRH9k-01849-00429743-00430351 never really enforced
iBz4-nzRH9k-01850-00430352-00430551 um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01851-00430552-00430647 so
iBz4-nzRH9k-01852-00430647-00430822 um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01853-00430823-00430903 yeah
iBz4-nzRH9k-01854-00430904-00431191 i it doesn't seem to always have the
iBz4-nzRH9k-01855-00431192-00431663 same effect
iBz4-nzRH9k-01856-00431664-00431943 okay so did i get you correct that
iBz4-nzRH9k-01857-00431943-00432127 toby's um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01858-00432128-00432431 suggestion didn't work for you
iBz4-nzRH9k-01859-00432432-00432710 yeah that's right
iBz4-nzRH9k-01860-00432712-00433014 they're supposed to send
iBz4-nzRH9k-01861-00433015-00433175 the pi
iBz4-nzRH9k-01862-00433176-00433318 uh
iBz4-nzRH9k-01863-00433319-00433551 a 50 pound invoice if the student
iBz4-nzRH9k-01864-00433552-00433727 doesn't show
iBz4-nzRH9k-01865-00433728-00433764 um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01866-00433766-00433903 [Music]
iBz4-nzRH9k-01867-00433904-00436495 because we still had a lot of no shows
iBz4-nzRH9k-01868-00436496-00437310 okay
iBz4-nzRH9k-01869-00437312-00437543 any other topic you would like to
iBz4-nzRH9k-01871-00442664-00442759 okay
iBz4-nzRH9k-01872-00442760-00442910 if there are not
iBz4-nzRH9k-01873-00442912-00443103 any more questions or something you
iBz4-nzRH9k-01874-00443104-00443407 would like to discuss i don't want to um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01875-00443408-00443591 yeah force you to stay
iBz4-nzRH9k-01876-00443592-00443991 the last 12 minutes uh we can stop here
iBz4-nzRH9k-01877-00443992-00444183 i really like the discussion thank you
iBz4-nzRH9k-01878-00444184-00444447 for everyone who participated
iBz4-nzRH9k-01879-00444447-00444535 um
iBz4-nzRH9k-01880-00444535-00445079 so we can stop the recording now
iBz4-nzRH9k-01881-00445080-00445492 auto we can stop it
iCX__F6ywKM-00000-00000160-00000348 and our series on biology we spent many
iCX__F6ywKM-00001-00000349-00000468 weeks together talking about the
iCX__F6ywKM-00002-00000469-00000690 physiology of animals and plants and how
iCX__F6ywKM-00003-00000691-00000845 cells work together to make tissues to
iCX__F6ywKM-00004-00000846-00001007 make organs to make organ systems to
iCX__F6ywKM-00005-00001008-00001220 make us the hunks of meat and vegetables
iCX__F6ywKM-00006-00001221-00001382 that we are and understanding the whole
iCX__F6ywKM-00007-00001383-00001598 organism it's important to know what's
iCX__F6ywKM-00008-00001599-00001773 going on at all those levels and the
iCX__F6ywKM-00009-00001773-00002082 same is true for ecology only instead of
iCX__F6ywKM-00010-00002083-00002243 zooming in and out on different levels
iCX__F6ywKM-00011-00002244-00002477 within a living thing we can zoom in and
iCX__F6ywKM-00012-00002478-00002673 out on the earth depending on the power
iCX__F6ywKM-00013-00002674-00002816 of the magnification we can understand a
iCX__F6ywKM-00014-00002817-00003039 whole range of things about our planet
iCX__F6ywKM-00015-00003040-00003173 for instance we can look at groups
iCX__F6ywKM-00016-00003174-00003363 within a species and how they live
iCX__F6ywKM-00017-00003364-00003554 together in one geographic area that's
iCX__F6ywKM-00018-00003555-00003738 population ecology there's also
iCX__F6ywKM-00019-00003739-00003894 community ecology where you look at
iCX__F6ywKM-00020-00003895-00004061 groups of different organisms living
iCX__F6ywKM-00021-00004062-00004170 together and figure out how they
iCX__F6ywKM-00022-00004171-00004335 influence each other and then the most
iCX__F6ywKM-00023-00004336-00004554 zoomed out we get is ecosystem ecology
iCX__F6ywKM-00024-00004555-00004797 the study of how all living and
iCX__F6ywKM-00025-00004798-00005013 nonliving things interact within an
iCX__F6ywKM-00026-00005014-00005247 entire ecosystem so let's start by
iCX__F6ywKM-00027-00005248-00005484 zooming in with population ecology the
iCX__F6ywKM-00028-00005485-00005675 study of groups within a species that
iCX__F6ywKM-00029-00005676-00005934 interact mostly with each other to
iCX__F6ywKM-00030-00005935-00006086 understand why these populations are
iCX__F6ywKM-00031-00006087-00006272 different in one time and place than
iCX__F6ywKM-00032-00006273-00006465 they are in another how you may be
iCX__F6ywKM-00033-00006466-00006599 asking yourself is that in any way
iCX__F6ywKM-00034-00006600-00006726 useful to anyone ever
iCX__F6ywKM-00035-00006727-00006881 well it's actually super useful to
iCX__F6ywKM-00036-00006883-00007119 everybody always let's look for instance
iCX__F6ywKM-00037-00007120-00007328 at the outbreak of West Nile virus that
iCX__F6ywKM-00038-00007329-00007503 struck Dallas Texas in the summer of
iCX__F6ywKM-00039-00007504-00007848 2012 in Dallas County 12 people died
iCX__F6ywKM-00040-00007848-00008052 from the virus as of the filming of this
iCX__F6ywKM-00041-00008053-00008246 and nearly 300 people have been infected
iCX__F6ywKM-00042-00008247-00008439 but in 2011 the whole state of Texas
iCX__F6ywKM-00043-00008440-00008714 reported only 27 cases of West Nile and
iCX__F6ywKM-00044-00008715-00008871 only two deaths that seems kind of
iCX__F6ywKM-00045-00008872-00009045 significant so what's up turns out that
iCX__F6ywKM-00046-00009046-00009216 this is a population ecology problem
iCX__F6ywKM-00047-00009217-00009405 West Nile is a mosquito-borne illness
iCX__F6ywKM-00048-00009406-00009585 and the population of mosquitoes in
iCX__F6ywKM-00049-00009586-00009792 Dallas in 2012 busted through brick
iCX__F6ywKM-00050-00009793-00009951 walls like the kool-aid man spreading
iCX__F6ywKM-00051-00009952-00010103 West Nile like crazy so why did this
iCX__F6ywKM-00052-00010104-00010341 outbreak happen in 2012 and not the year
iCX__F6ywKM-00053-00010342-00010553 before and why did it happen in Texas
iCX__F6ywKM-00054-00010554-00010781 and not in New Jersey the answer is
iCX__F6ywKM-00055-00010782-00011889 population ecology
iCX__F6ywKM-00056-00011890-00012134 before we start solving any disease
iCX__F6ywKM-00057-00012135-00012308 outbreak mysteries we got to understand
iCX__F6ywKM-00058-00012309-00012478 the fundamentals of population ecology
iCX__F6ywKM-00059-00012479-00012713 for starters a population is just a
iCX__F6ywKM-00060-00012714-00012955 group of individuals of one species who
iCX__F6ywKM-00061-00012956-00013205 interact regularly how often organisms
iCX__F6ywKM-00062-00013206-00013388 interact have a lot to do with geography
iCX__F6ywKM-00063-00013388-00013577 you're gonna have a lot more face time
iCX__F6ywKM-00064-00013578-00013705 with the folks you live near than those
iCX__F6ywKM-00065-00013706-00013865 who live farther away as a result
iCX__F6ywKM-00066-00013866-00014057 individuals who are closer to you will
iCX__F6ywKM-00067-00014058-00014207 be the ones that you compete with for
iCX__F6ywKM-00068-00014208-00014386 food and living space mates all that
iCX__F6ywKM-00069-00014387-00014530 stuff but in order to understand why
iCX__F6ywKM-00070-00014531-00014705 populations are different from time to
iCX__F6ywKM-00071-00014706-00014875 time and place to place a population D
iCX__F6ywKM-00072-00014876-00014996 colleges needs to know a few things
iCX__F6ywKM-00073-00014997-00015236 about a population like its density in
iCX__F6ywKM-00074-00015237-00015443 this instance how many mosquitoes there
iCX__F6ywKM-00075-00015444-00015605 are in the Greater Dallas area that
iCX__F6ywKM-00076-00015606-00015772 might come into contact with each other
iCX__F6ywKM-00077-00015773-00015971 a populations density changes due to a
iCX__F6ywKM-00078-00015972-00016094 number of factors all of which are
iCX__F6ywKM-00079-00016094-00016288 pretty intuitive it increases when new
iCX__F6ywKM-00080-00016290-00016514 individuals are either born or emigrate
iCX__F6ywKM-00081-00016515-00016753 that is moving and it decreases because
iCX__F6ywKM-00082-00016754-00017047 of deaths or emigration or individuals
iCX__F6ywKM-00083-00017048-00017219 moving out simple enough but as a
iCX__F6ywKM-00084-00017220-00017422 population ecologist you also need to
iCX__F6ywKM-00085-00017423-00017650 know about the geographic arrangement of
iCX__F6ywKM-00086-00017651-00017830 the individuals within the population
iCX__F6ywKM-00087-00017831-00018071 this is their dispersion like are the
iCX__F6ywKM-00088-00018072-00018211 mosquitoes all come together are they
iCX__F6ywKM-00089-00018212-00018394 evenly spaced across the county is there
iCX__F6ywKM-00090-00018395-00018580 some kind of random spacing the answer
iCX__F6ywKM-00091-00018581-00018730 to these questions give scientists a
iCX__F6ywKM-00092-00018731-00018911 snapshot of a population at any given
iCX__F6ywKM-00093-00018912-00019097 moment and to figure out a puzzle like
iCX__F6ywKM-00094-00019098-00019292 the West Nile outbreak which involves
iCX__F6ywKM-00095-00019293-00019444 studying how a population has changed
iCX__F6ywKM-00096-00019445-00019517 over time
iCX__F6ywKM-00097-00019518-00019643 you have to investigate one of
iCX__F6ywKM-00098-00019644-00019900 population ecology central principles
iCX__F6ywKM-00099-00019901-00020122 population growth there are all kinds of
iCX__F6ywKM-00100-00020123-00020281 factors that drive population growth and
iCX__F6ywKM-00101-00020282-00020419 they can vary radically from one
iCX__F6ywKM-00102-00020420-00020569 organism to the next things like
iCX__F6ywKM-00103-00020570-00020737 fecundity how many offspring an
iCX__F6ywKM-00104-00020738-00020905 individual could have in a lifetime make
iCX__F6ywKM-00105-00020906-00021092 a huge difference in the size of a
iCX__F6ywKM-00106-00021093-00021265 population so for instance why do
iCX__F6ywKM-00107-00021266-00021503 mosquito populations seem to grow so
iCX__F6ywKM-00108-00021504-00021553 quickly
iCX__F6ywKM-00109-00021554-00021749 well the endangered black rhino may
iCX__F6ywKM-00110-00021750-00021908 never recover from a single act of
iCX__F6ywKM-00111-00021909-00022144 poaching for starters mosquitoes can
iCX__F6ywKM-00112-00022145-00022330 have 2,000 offspring in their two-week
iCX__F6ywKM-00113-00022331-00022574 lifetime while the Rhino can have like
iCX__F6ywKM-00114-00022575-00022769 five and forty years still the
iCX__F6ywKM-00115-00022770-00022994 population doesn't usually or even ever
iCX__F6ywKM-00116-00022995-00023174 grow to its full potential and it can't
iCX__F6ywKM-00117-00023175-00023359 keep growing indefinitely to understand
iCX__F6ywKM-00118-00023360-00023590 how fast or slow and high or low a
iCX__F6ywKM-00119-00023591-00023815 population actually grows you need to
iCX__F6ywKM-00120-00023816-00023983 focus on what's keeping growth in check
iCX__F6ywKM-00121-00023984-00024200 these factors are appropriately called
iCX__F6ywKM-00122-00024201-00024425 limiting factors say you're a mosquito
iCX__F6ywKM-00123-00024426-00024656 in Dallas in 2011 the year before the
iCX__F6ywKM-00124-00024657-00024850 outbreak back then the growth rate
iCX__F6ywKM-00125-00024851-00025102 wasn't what it was in 2012 so something
iCX__F6ywKM-00126-00025103-00025193 was keeping you
iCX__F6ywKM-00127-00025194-00025409 down to figure out what your limiting
iCX__F6ywKM-00128-00025410-00025556 factors were you first have to narrow
iCX__F6ywKM-00129-00025557-00025777 down what you need is a mosquito to live
iCX__F6ywKM-00130-00025779-00025997 and reproduce successfully first you got
iCX__F6ywKM-00131-00025998-00026170 to find your food now you mosquitoes you
iCX__F6ywKM-00132-00026172-00026327 eat all kinds of things but in order to
iCX__F6ywKM-00133-00026327-00026533 reproduce assuming you're a female you
iCX__F6ywKM-00134-00026535-00026783 need a blood meal so you have to find a
iCX__F6ywKM-00135-00026783-00026942 vertebrate and suck some of its blood
iCX__F6ywKM-00136-00026943-00027116 out presumably there's no shortage of
iCX__F6ywKM-00137-00027117-00027277 vertebrates walking around Dallas for
iCX__F6ywKM-00138-00027279-00027433 you to suck blood out of I have good
iCX__F6ywKM-00139-00027435-00027635 friends who are vertebrates in Dallas
iCX__F6ywKM-00140-00027636-00027808 you might even be able to suck some of
iCX__F6ywKM-00141-00027810-00027968 their blood next temperature because you
iCX__F6ywKM-00142-00027969-00028130 mosquitoes are ectothermic it has to be
iCX__F6ywKM-00143-00028131-00028355 warm in order for you to be active and
iCX__F6ywKM-00144-00028356-00028574 on Texas is pretty warm in the winter of
iCX__F6ywKM-00145-00028575-00028852 2011 2012 was especially bombing in fact
iCX__F6ywKM-00146-00028854-00029120 the summer of 2012 was exceptionally hot
iCX__F6ywKM-00147-00029120-00029282 which helps speed up the mosquito
iCX__F6ywKM-00148-00029283-00029477 lifecycle so that's one limiting factor
iCX__F6ywKM-00149-00029477-00029636 that's been removed for Dallas area
iCX__F6ywKM-00150-00029637-00029888 mosquitoes moving on to mates if you're
iCX__F6ywKM-00151-00029889-00030056 a female mosquito you need to find a
iCX__F6ywKM-00152-00030057-00030227 nice male mosquito with the job and
iCX__F6ywKM-00153-00030227-00030368 preferably his own car because you know
iCX__F6ywKM-00154-00030369-00030527 Dallas is a pretty big city to mate with
iCX__F6ywKM-00155-00030527-00030650 this isn't actually all that hard
iCX__F6ywKM-00156-00030651-00030773 because the way that mosquitoes do it
iCX__F6ywKM-00157-00030774-00031049 males just gather into a mosquito cloud
iCX__F6ywKM-00158-00031050-00031208 at dusk every night during mating season
iCX__F6ywKM-00159-00031208-00031388 and all the female has to do is find her
iCX__F6ywKM-00160-00031389-00031607 local dude cloud and fly into it in
iCX__F6ywKM-00161-00031608-00031799 order to get mated with easy cheese
iCX__F6ywKM-00162-00031800-00032108 finally space and aha because here we
iCX__F6ywKM-00163-00032108-00032324 have another important clue mosquitoes
iCX__F6ywKM-00164-00032325-00032498 need to lay their eggs in stagnant water
iCX__F6ywKM-00165-00032499-00032705 if there's anything mosquito larvae hate
iCX__F6ywKM-00166-00032706-00032873 it's a rainstorm flushing out the little
iCX__F6ywKM-00167-00032874-00033008 puddle of water they've been living in
iCX__F6ywKM-00168-00033009-00033155 since Dallas saw a pretty severe drought
iCX__F6ywKM-00169-00033156-00033365 in the summer of 2012 there were lots of
iCX__F6ywKM-00170-00033366-00033602 pockets of stagnant nasty mosquito water
iCX__F6ywKM-00171-00033603-00033790 sitting around acting as nurseries for
iCX__F6ywKM-00172-00033791-00034052 many many West Nile infected mosquitoes
iCX__F6ywKM-00173-00034053-00034226 so when we look at this evidence we find
iCX__F6ywKM-00174-00034227-00034385 at least two limiting factors for
iCX__F6ywKM-00175-00034386-00034601 Dallas's mosquito population growth that
iCX__F6ywKM-00176-00034602-00034877 were removed in 2011 the constraints of
iCX__F6ywKM-00177-00034878-00035084 temperature and space it was plenty hot
iCX__F6ywKM-00178-00035085-00035264 and there were lots of egg-laying
iCX__F6ywKM-00179-00035265-00035537 locations so the bugs were free to go
iCX__F6ywKM-00180-00035538-00035740 nuts population ecologist group limiting
iCX__F6ywKM-00181-00035741-00035882 factors like these into two different
iCX__F6ywKM-00182-00035883-00036164 categories density dependent and density
iCX__F6ywKM-00183-00036165-00036305 independent they do it this way because
iCX__F6ywKM-00184-00036306-00036449 we need to know whether a populations
iCX__F6ywKM-00185-00036450-00036590 growth rate is being controlled by how
iCX__F6ywKM-00186-00036591-00036740 many individuals are in it or whether
iCX__F6ywKM-00187-00036741-00036860 it's being controlled by something else
iCX__F6ywKM-00188-00036861-00037019 and the reason these limitations matter
iCX__F6ywKM-00189-00037020-00037190 is because they affect what's known as
iCX__F6ywKM-00190-00037191-00037390 the carrying capacity of the mosquitoes
iCX__F6ywKM-00191-00037391-00037592 habitat that's the number of individuals
iCX__F6ywKM-00192-00037593-00037769 that a habitat can sustain with the
iCX__F6ywKM-00193-00037770-00037919 resources that it has available so
iCX__F6ywKM-00194-00037920-00038108 density dependent limitations are
iCX__F6ywKM-00195-00038109-00038267 factors that inhibit growth because of
iCX__F6ywKM-00196-00038268-00038420 the environmental stress caused by a
iCX__F6ywKM-00197-00038421-00038567 population size
iCX__F6ywKM-00198-00038568-00038752 for example there may simply not be
iCX__F6ywKM-00199-00038753-00038906 enough food water and space to
iCX__F6ywKM-00200-00038907-00039052 accommodate everyone or maybe because
iCX__F6ywKM-00201-00039053-00039239 there are so many individuals a nearby
iCX__F6ywKM-00202-00039240-00039518 predator population explodes which helps
iCX__F6ywKM-00203-00039519-00039683 keep the population in check things like
iCX__F6ywKM-00204-00039684-00039839 disease can also be a density-dependent
iCX__F6ywKM-00205-00039840-00040055 limitation lots of individuals living in
iCX__F6ywKM-00206-00040056-00040235 close quarters can make infection spread
iCX__F6ywKM-00207-00040236-00040361 like crazy now I don't think that the
iCX__F6ywKM-00208-00040362-00040474 Valles mosquitoes are going to run out
iCX__F6ywKM-00209-00040475-00040634 of vertebrates to dine on anytime soon
iCX__F6ywKM-00210-00040635-00040843 but let's say hypothetically that the
iCX__F6ywKM-00211-00040844-00041102 explosion of local mosquito populations
iCX__F6ywKM-00212-00041103-00041261 caused a similar explosion in the number
iCX__F6ywKM-00213-00041262-00041498 of Mexican free-tailed bats the official
iCX__F6ywKM-00214-00041499-00041681 flying mammal of the state of Texas and
iCX__F6ywKM-00215-00041682-00041933 they eat mosquitoes that would be a
iCX__F6ywKM-00216-00041934-00042095 limiting factor that was density
iCX__F6ywKM-00217-00042096-00042283 dependent more mosquitoes leads to more
iCX__F6ywKM-00218-00042284-00042458 bats which leads to fewer mosquitoes
iCX__F6ywKM-00219-00042459-00042623 it's pretty simple when density
iCX__F6ywKM-00220-00042624-00042776 dependent limitations start to kick in
iCX__F6ywKM-00221-00042777-00042952 and start to limit a populations growth
iCX__F6ywKM-00222-00042953-00043124 that means that the habitats carrying
iCX__F6ywKM-00223-00043125-00043286 capacity has been reached but the other
iCX__F6ywKM-00224-00043287-00043427 type of limiting factor the density
iCX__F6ywKM-00225-00043428-00043610 independent ones have nothing to do with
iCX__F6ywKM-00226-00043611-00043783 how many individuals there are or how
iCX__F6ywKM-00227-00043784-00043999 dense the population is a lot of times
iCX__F6ywKM-00228-00044000-00044168 these limitations are described in terms
iCX__F6ywKM-00229-00044169-00044408 of some catastrophe a volcanic eruption
iCX__F6ywKM-00230-00044409-00044627 a monsoon Chernobyl in any case some
iCX__F6ywKM-00231-00044628-00044810 crucial aspect of the populations
iCX__F6ywKM-00232-00044811-00045002 lifestyle changes enough that it makes
iCX__F6ywKM-00233-00045003-00045176 it harder to get by these factors don't
iCX__F6ywKM-00234-00045177-00045358 have to be super dramatic going back to
iCX__F6ywKM-00235-00045359-00045608 mosquitoes say in 2013 there's a huge
iCX__F6ywKM-00236-00045609-00045839 thunderstorm a real gully washer in
iCX__F6ywKM-00237-00045840-00046015 Dallas every day for three months that's
iCX__F6ywKM-00238-00046016-00046124 going to disturb the clutches of
iCX__F6ywKM-00239-00046125-00046262 mosquito eggs hanging out in the
iCX__F6ywKM-00240-00046263-00046454 stagnant water so the number born that
iCX__F6ywKM-00241-00046455-00046633 year would be substantially small by the
iCX__F6ywKM-00242-00046634-00046796 same token if the temperature swung the
iCX__F6ywKM-00243-00046797-00046961 other way and it was unseasonally cold
iCX__F6ywKM-00244-00046962-00047132 all summer the bugs growth rate would
iCX__F6ywKM-00245-00047133-00047279 drop now the truth is there are a
iCX__F6ywKM-00246-00047280-00047480 billion and a half situations both big
iCX__F6ywKM-00247-00047481-00047636 and small that could lead to a
iCX__F6ywKM-00248-00047637-00047807 population either reaching its carrying
iCX__F6ywKM-00249-00047808-00047987 capacity or collapsing because of
iCX__F6ywKM-00250-00047988-00048176 external factors it's a population
iCX__F6ywKM-00251-00048177-00048395 ecologists job to figure out what those
iCX__F6ywKM-00252-00048396-00048704 factors are and that is what math is for
iCX__F6ywKM-00253-00048705-00048908 our friend math says that any population
iCX__F6ywKM-00254-00048909-00049118 of anything anything will grow
iCX__F6ywKM-00255-00049119-00049312 exponentially unless there's some reason
iCX__F6ywKM-00256-00049313-00049549 that it can't exponential growth means
iCX__F6ywKM-00257-00049550-00049687 that the population grows at a rate
iCX__F6ywKM-00258-00049688-00049862 proportional to the size of the
iCX__F6ywKM-00259-00049863-00050021 population so here at the beginning of
iCX__F6ywKM-00260-00050022-00050210 2012 we might only have had a thousand
iCX__F6ywKM-00261-00050211-00050426 mosquitoes in Dallas but then after say
iCX__F6ywKM-00262-00050427-00050630 one month we got 3,000 now with three
iCX__F6ywKM-00263-00050631-00050789 times as many reproducing mosquitoes the
iCX__F6ywKM-00264-00050790-00050987 population grew three times as fast as
iCX__F6ywKM-00265-00050988-00051152 when there were a thousand so then there
iCX__F6ywKM-00266-00051153-00051358 are 9,000 at which point it's growing
iCX__F6ywKM-00267-00051359-00051514 three times as fast as when there were
iCX__F6ywKM-00268-00051515-00051670 three thousand and on and on into
iCX__F6ywKM-00269-00051671-00051814 infinity and in this
iCX__F6ywKM-00270-00051815-00052063 the mosquitoes are all carry capacity my
iCX__F6ywKM-00271-00052064-00052285 chitin covered but there's no stopping
iCX__F6ywKM-00272-00052286-00052426 us but you know it doesn't really happen
iCX__F6ywKM-00273-00052427-00052587 I mean it can't happen for a while
iCX__F6ywKM-00274-00052588-00052840 humans have been on an exponential
iCX__F6ywKM-00275-00052841-00052992 growth curve since the Industrial
iCX__F6ywKM-00276-00052994-00053175 Revolution for example but eventually
iCX__F6ywKM-00277-00053176-00053404 something always knocked the population
iCX__F6ywKM-00278-00053404-00053584 size back down that thing might be a
iCX__F6ywKM-00279-00053585-00053764 density dependent factor like food
iCX__F6ywKM-00280-00053765-00053965 scarcity or an epidemic or a density
iCX__F6ywKM-00281-00053966-00054129 independent one like an asteroid that
iCX__F6ywKM-00282-00054130-00054349 takes out the whole continent regardless
iCX__F6ywKM-00283-00054350-00054604 this exponential growth curve can't go
iCX__F6ywKM-00284-00054604-00054763 up forever and when those factors come
iCX__F6ywKM-00285-00054764-00054966 into play a population experiences only
iCX__F6ywKM-00286-00054967-00055179 logistic growth this means that the
iCX__F6ywKM-00287-00055180-00055321 population is limited to the carrying
iCX__F6ywKM-00288-00055322-00055519 capacity of its habitat which when you
iCX__F6ywKM-00289-00055520-00055755 think about it ain't too much to ask see
iCX__F6ywKM-00290-00055757-00055915 how this graph flattens up at the top
iCX__F6ywKM-00291-00055916-00056142 the factor that creates that plateau is
iCX__F6ywKM-00292-00056144-00056341 almost always a density dependent
iCX__F6ywKM-00293-00056341-00056505 limitation as you add mosquitoes
iCX__F6ywKM-00294-00056507-00056707 eventually the rate of population growth
iCX__F6ywKM-00295-00056708-00056866 is going to slow down because they run
iCX__F6ywKM-00296-00056866-00057082 out of food or space and when we get to
iCX__F6ywKM-00297-00057083-00057241 wear that number levels off that number
iCX__F6ywKM-00298-00057241-00057439 is the carrying capacity of the mosquito
iCX__F6ywKM-00299-00057440-00057616 population into that particular habitat
iCX__F6ywKM-00300-00057616-00057841 now let's apply all of these ideas using
iCX__F6ywKM-00301-00057841-00058015 a simple equation that will allow us to
iCX__F6ywKM-00302-00058016-00058162 calculate the population growth of
iCX__F6ywKM-00303-00058163-00058426 anything we feel like I know it's math
iCX__F6ywKM-00304-00058427-00058687 but wake up because this is important
iCX__F6ywKM-00305-00058688-00058885 the city of Dallas is depending on you
iCX__F6ywKM-00306-00058886-00059074 so let's calculate the growth of
iCX__F6ywKM-00307-00059075-00059292 thousands mosquito population over a
iCX__F6ywKM-00308-00059294-00059517 span of two weeks all we have to do to
iCX__F6ywKM-00309-00059519-00059775 get the rate of growth that's our is
iCX__F6ywKM-00310-00059776-00060259 take the number of births births minus
iCX__F6ywKM-00311-00060260-00060589 the number of deaths and then divide
iCX__F6ywKM-00312-00060590-00061055 that all by the initial population size
iCX__F6ywKM-00313-00061057-00061453 which we generally just call n so let's
iCX__F6ywKM-00314-00061454-00061554 say we start with an initial population
iCX__F6ywKM-00315-00061555-00061864 of a hundred mosquitoes and each of
iCX__F6ywKM-00316-00061865-00062053 those mosquitoes lives an average of two
iCX__F6ywKM-00317-00062054-00062272 weeks so our deaths over a span of two
iCX__F6ywKM-00318-00062273-00062505 weeks will be 100 have these mosquitoes
iCX__F6ywKM-00319-00062507-00062695 are going to be female so fifty of them
iCX__F6ywKM-00320-00062696-00062911 and they can produce about 2,000 babies
iCX__F6ywKM-00321-00062912-00063172 in their lifetime so that's times 2,000
iCX__F6ywKM-00322-00063173-00063499 so fifty money mosquitoes times 2,000
iCX__F6ywKM-00323-00063500-00063721 babies per mommy and you get births
iCX__F6ywKM-00324-00063722-00064159 equaling 100,000 little baby mosquitoes
iCX__F6ywKM-00325-00064160-00064270 once we plug in all the numbers into
iCX__F6ywKM-00326-00064271-00064392 this equation even though this is
iCX__F6ywKM-00327-00064394-00064566 totally a hypothetical we will see the
iCX__F6ywKM-00328-00064567-00064779 true scope of Dallas's mosquito problem
iCX__F6ywKM-00329-00064780-00065023 so blink in two weeks the population had
iCX__F6ywKM-00330-00065024-00065187 a hundred thousand babies and only
iCX__F6ywKM-00331-00065188-00065349 hundred of them died so this is a
iCX__F6ywKM-00332-00065350-00065532 population growth rate if you do the
iCX__F6ywKM-00333-00065533-00065853 math of 999 this means that for every
iCX__F6ywKM-00334-00065854-00066003 mosquito out there at the beginning of
iCX__F6ywKM-00335-00066004-00066324 two weeks there will be 999 more at the
iCX__F6ywKM-00336-00066325-00066634 end of two weeks that is a 99 thousand
iCX__F6ywKM-00337-00066635-00066867 eight hundred percent increase by Thor's
iCX__F6ywKM-00338-00066868-00067074 hammer again these are hypothetical
iCX__F6ywKM-00339-00067075-00067269 numbers but it gives you a sense of how
iCX__F6ywKM-00340-00067270-00067459 a population can just go out of control
iCX__F6ywKM-00341-00067460-00067626 when all the factors that we talked
iCX__F6ywKM-00342-00067627-00067812 about go in its favor you guys haven't
iCX__F6ywKM-00343-00067813-00067990 even seen trouble until you see what the
iCX__F6ywKM-00344-00067991-00068203 graph of human population looks like
iCX__F6ywKM-00345-00068204-00068487 over the last couple millennia
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iElEVR8bA8Y-00044-00010384-00010687 are called dream 100 and
iElEVR8bA8Y-00045-00010688-00010838 if you for instance want to know
iElEVR8bA8Y-00046-00010839-00011063 everything about storytelling
iElEVR8bA8Y-00047-00011064-00011295 i don't know you go to a group about
iElEVR8bA8Y-00048-00011296-00011535 storytelling and of course you want to
iElEVR8bA8Y-00049-00011536-00011710 go to the group who
iElEVR8bA8Y-00050-00011711-00011951 of the number one person in storytelling
iElEVR8bA8Y-00051-00011952-00012135 right so the number one person is
iElEVR8bA8Y-00052-00012136-00012414 storytelling that's a guy of the dream
iElEVR8bA8Y-00053-00012415-00012631 100 but if you don't know the number one
iElEVR8bA8Y-00054-00012632-00012799 yet or if you're not in those type of
iElEVR8bA8Y-00055-00012800-00012966 groups take a look at the groups that
iElEVR8bA8Y-00056-00012967-00013247 you're already in and identify your own
iElEVR8bA8Y-00057-00013247-00013438 dream 100s you can always change the
iElEVR8bA8Y-00058-00013440-00013711 names or add ones later
iElEVR8bA8Y-00059-00013712-00013879 then we talked about
iElEVR8bA8Y-00060-00013880-00014055 okay well you have a product that you
iElEVR8bA8Y-00061-00014056-00014391 want to offer or invite your dream
iElEVR8bA8Y-00062-00014391-00014679 customer to take a look at but the dream
iElEVR8bA8Y-00063-00014680-00014903 customers that you're after are in the
iElEVR8bA8Y-00064-00014904-00015135 group of the dream 100 so how do you
iElEVR8bA8Y-00065-00015136-00015238 work
iElEVR8bA8Y-00066-00015240-00015527 with the dream 100 person
iElEVR8bA8Y-00067-00015528-00015927 to uh get permission to show your offer
iElEVR8bA8Y-00068-00015928-00016175 in their group we talked about that we
iElEVR8bA8Y-00069-00016176-00016455 talked also talked about how the paths
iElEVR8bA8Y-00070-00016456-00016655 that you need to do you know you need to
iElEVR8bA8Y-00071-00016656-00016919 add value and we talked about the 60-day
iElEVR8bA8Y-00072-00016920-00017007 part
iElEVR8bA8Y-00073-00017008-00017383 path that you need to do to get noticed
iElEVR8bA8Y-00074-00017384-00017575 and then at one day you are at that
iElEVR8bA8Y-00075-00017576-00017735 point okay
iElEVR8bA8Y-00076-00017736-00017958 you're going to talk with your dream 100
iElEVR8bA8Y-00077-00017959-00018303 are you would you like to
iElEVR8bA8Y-00078-00018304-00018471 i think this product could be of great
iElEVR8bA8Y-00079-00018472-00018727 benefit towards your audience because
iElEVR8bA8Y-00080-00018728-00018975 remember it is their audience uh would
iElEVR8bA8Y-00081-00018976-00019167 you like to help me promote it on launch
iElEVR8bA8Y-00082-00019168-00019414 day and they can say yes and no right if
iElEVR8bA8Y-00083-00019415-00019671 they say yes you go in that path if they
iElEVR8bA8Y-00084-00019672-00019879 say no you're going that path that's
iElEVR8bA8Y-00085-00019880-00020079 more or less how uh
iElEVR8bA8Y-00086-00020080-00020286 where we are at this moment regarding
iElEVR8bA8Y-00087-00020287-00020622 traffic traffic towards your business
iElEVR8bA8Y-00088-00020623-00020822 right that was the goal keep that in
iElEVR8bA8Y-00089-00020823-00021007 mind that's always the goal
iElEVR8bA8Y-00090-00021008-00021286 uh that's the organic way
iElEVR8bA8Y-00091-00021287-00021558 one of the organic ways to do it but
iElEVR8bA8Y-00092-00021559-00021822 there's also a paid way
iElEVR8bA8Y-00093-00021823-00021919 uh
iElEVR8bA8Y-00094-00021920-00022119 and i'm using facebook ads at the moment
iElEVR8bA8Y-00095-00022120-00022343 because that's for me the easiest
iElEVR8bA8Y-00096-00022344-00022655 uh to do because i'm already in facebook
iElEVR8bA8Y-00097-00022656-00022783 and i know
iElEVR8bA8Y-00098-00022784-00023078 a little thing about it
iElEVR8bA8Y-00099-00023079-00023199 so
iElEVR8bA8Y-00100-00023200-00023542 using facebook ads to grow your email
iElEVR8bA8Y-00101-00023543-00023767 list that's the topic of today and how
iElEVR8bA8Y-00102-00023768-00023942 we're going to do that
iElEVR8bA8Y-00103-00023943-00024078 for free
iElEVR8bA8Y-00104-00024079-00024367 right okay let me share my screen and
iElEVR8bA8Y-00105-00024368-00024519 i'm going to show you what i'm talking
iElEVR8bA8Y-00106-00024520-00024630 about
iElEVR8bA8Y-00107-00024631-00024847 the reason why i'm doing this at zoom
iElEVR8bA8Y-00108-00024848-00025191 and not for on on facebook or on youtube
iElEVR8bA8Y-00109-00025192-00025486 is because zoom has something called a
iElEVR8bA8Y-00110-00025487-00025727 white board
iElEVR8bA8Y-00111-00025727-00025974 and that's exactly what i need right now
iElEVR8bA8Y-00112-00025975-00026102 to show you
iElEVR8bA8Y-00113-00026104-00026335 several things okay let me
iElEVR8bA8Y-00114-00026336-00026655 see if i can move this
iElEVR8bA8Y-00115-00026656-00026839 okay never mind
iElEVR8bA8Y-00116-00026839-00027007 all right so
iElEVR8bA8Y-00117-00027008-00027262 what do we have let's say i'm very bad
iElEVR8bA8Y-00118-00027263-00027502 at drawing by the way so excuse me if
iElEVR8bA8Y-00119-00027504-00027774 that's uh offending to you um it's not
iElEVR8bA8Y-00120-00027775-00027935 about the drawing it's about the message
iElEVR8bA8Y-00121-00027936-00028087 behind it all right
iElEVR8bA8Y-00122-00028088-00028279 okay so let's say
iElEVR8bA8Y-00123-00028280-00028551 you have something that you would like
iElEVR8bA8Y-00124-00028552-00028702 to
iElEVR8bA8Y-00125-00028704-00028887 sell something
iElEVR8bA8Y-00126-00028888-00029190 i don't know a book for instance right
iElEVR8bA8Y-00127-00029191-00029295 now
iElEVR8bA8Y-00128-00029295-00029543 so here is the page the webpage of that
iElEVR8bA8Y-00129-00029544-00029711 particular book
iElEVR8bA8Y-00130-00029712-00030111 uh i'm going to try to write it so book
iElEVR8bA8Y-00131-00030112-00030231 okay
iElEVR8bA8Y-00132-00030232-00030439 and it's called
iElEVR8bA8Y-00133-00030439-00030695 the book is for free
iElEVR8bA8Y-00134-00030695-00030814 but
iElEVR8bA8Y-00135-00030816-00031118 the people need to pay for um
iElEVR8bA8Y-00136-00031119-00031383 shipping so free book
iElEVR8bA8Y-00137-00031383-00031479 plus
iElEVR8bA8Y-00138-00031480-00031711 shipping
iElEVR8bA8Y-00139-00031712-00031918 so people pay for the shipping and the
iElEVR8bA8Y-00140-00031919-00032174 price that they pay i would just take an
iElEVR8bA8Y-00141-00032175-00032687 example is seven euro 7.95
iElEVR8bA8Y-00142-00032688-00032895 so there you go
iElEVR8bA8Y-00143-00032896-00033190 this is what you want people to uh
iElEVR8bA8Y-00144-00033191-00033335 to get
iElEVR8bA8Y-00145-00033336-00033487 all right
iElEVR8bA8Y-00146-00033488-00033639 so what are you going to do you're going
iElEVR8bA8Y-00147-00033640-00034031 to uh to send ads you know uh i'll just
iElEVR8bA8Y-00148-00034032-00034190 do it this way
iElEVR8bA8Y-00149-00034191-00034327 draw
iElEVR8bA8Y-00150-00034328-00034583 there you go so you're gonna send ads
iElEVR8bA8Y-00151-00034584-00034751 like this
iElEVR8bA8Y-00152-00034752-00034879 yes
iElEVR8bA8Y-00153-00034880-00035062 and this
iElEVR8bA8Y-00154-00035063-00035239 that's the intention
iElEVR8bA8Y-00155-00035240-00035383 now
iElEVR8bA8Y-00156-00035384-00035551 let's say you've already done this
iElEVR8bA8Y-00157-00035552-00035671 before
iElEVR8bA8Y-00158-00035672-00035911 and you know that cd
iElEVR8bA8Y-00159-00035912-00036111 uh the ads
iElEVR8bA8Y-00160-00036112-00036399 like are have a price of course and they
iElEVR8bA8Y-00161-00036400-00036902 cost you about 23 euros per lead
iElEVR8bA8Y-00162-00036903-00037455 this is this is called cost per lead cpl
iElEVR8bA8Y-00163-00037456-00037830 let's say you already know that number
iElEVR8bA8Y-00164-00037831-00037999 it's very important to know that in
iElEVR8bA8Y-00165-00038000-00038207 first instance but we'll talk about that
iElEVR8bA8Y-00166-00038208-00038335 later
iElEVR8bA8Y-00167-00038336-00038615 and let's say you already know what the
iElEVR8bA8Y-00168-00038616-00038767 conversion is
iElEVR8bA8Y-00169-00038768-00038951 you know all the people that you are
iElEVR8bA8Y-00170-00038952-00039062 sending
iElEVR8bA8Y-00171-00039063-00039159 to
iElEVR8bA8Y-00172-00039160-00039487 this particular advertisement
iElEVR8bA8Y-00173-00039488-00039935 because this and this is an ad
iElEVR8bA8Y-00174-00039936-00040135 13
iElEVR8bA8Y-00175-00040136-00040415 is going to take you up on it
iElEVR8bA8Y-00176-00040416-00040502 so
iElEVR8bA8Y-00177-00040503-00040718 what are we talking about then then
iElEVR8bA8Y-00178-00040719-00040958 we're talking about
iElEVR8bA8Y-00179-00040959-00041246 revenue
iElEVR8bA8Y-00180-00041247-00041518 the book is zero right because you're
iElEVR8bA8Y-00181-00041519-00041735 giving the book for free they only pay
iElEVR8bA8Y-00182-00041736-00042023 for the shipping part
iElEVR8bA8Y-00183-00042024-00042158 uh oh
iElEVR8bA8Y-00184-00042159-00042343 yes of course
iElEVR8bA8Y-00185-00042344-00042495 shipping
iElEVR8bA8Y-00186-00042496-00042783 so what do you get what are you getting
iElEVR8bA8Y-00187-00042784-00043023 in terms of money what are you getting
iElEVR8bA8Y-00188-00043024-00043279 uh seven dollars and ninety five cents
iElEVR8bA8Y-00189-00043280-00043462 but your cost
iElEVR8bA8Y-00190-00043463-00043758 is per lead
iElEVR8bA8Y-00191-00043759-00043967 is 23
iElEVR8bA8Y-00192-00043968-00044343 right
iElEVR8bA8Y-00193-00044344-00044551 so basically
iElEVR8bA8Y-00194-00044552-00044751 you're you're not having a profit you
iElEVR8bA8Y-00195-00044752-00044967 are having a loss
iElEVR8bA8Y-00196-00044968-00045255 of fifteen dollars and five cents per
iElEVR8bA8Y-00197-00045256-00045455 lead that's what we're going to look at
iElEVR8bA8Y-00198-00045456-00045662 what are the costs and what are the what
iElEVR8bA8Y-00199-00045663-00045758 are the
iElEVR8bA8Y-00200-00045759-00046223 uh revenues per lead
iElEVR8bA8Y-00201-00046224-00046439 okay
iElEVR8bA8Y-00202-00046440-00046599 so this is one if you're if you're
iElEVR8bA8Y-00203-00046600-00046886 selling something of low value
iElEVR8bA8Y-00204-00046887-00046999 uh
iElEVR8bA8Y-00205-00047000-00047255 and you know that your percentages then
iElEVR8bA8Y-00206-00047256-00047615 you're going to go into a loss if
iElEVR8bA8Y-00207-00047616-00047927 whatever is saying here the price is
iElEVR8bA8Y-00208-00047928-00048230 less than what you're paying per
iElEVR8bA8Y-00209-00048231-00048518 or advertisement lead
iElEVR8bA8Y-00210-00048519-00048830 so what are you going to do
iElEVR8bA8Y-00211-00048831-00049039 you need to do something so but what do
iElEVR8bA8Y-00212-00049040-00049239 you usually see is
iElEVR8bA8Y-00213-00049240-00049535 something called a order bump
iElEVR8bA8Y-00214-00049536-00050295 now what's an order bump
iElEVR8bA8Y-00215-00050296-00050495 what it means is that on the
iElEVR8bA8Y-00216-00050496-00050655 page where you need to fill in your
iElEVR8bA8Y-00217-00050656-00050879 credit card there is an option something
iElEVR8bA8Y-00218-00050880-00051095 that you can tag
iElEVR8bA8Y-00219-00051096-00051302 for yes i want is to
iElEVR8bA8Y-00220-00051303-00051542 and let's say for uh for instance in
iElEVR8bA8Y-00221-00051544-00051902 this case that would be the audio file
iElEVR8bA8Y-00222-00051903-00052190 let's say you you don't like to read
iElEVR8bA8Y-00223-00052191-00052375 you like to listen and read at the same
iElEVR8bA8Y-00224-00052376-00052623 time because you remember it better that
iElEVR8bA8Y-00225-00052624-00052871 way
iElEVR8bA8Y-00226-00052872-00053119 so you're using the audio file i think
iElEVR8bA8Y-00227-00053120-00053199 oh
iElEVR8bA8Y-00228-00053200-00053487 that's nice that they offered that too
iElEVR8bA8Y-00229-00053488-00053694 and let's say that
iElEVR8bA8Y-00230-00053695-00054030 audiophile has a cost of 70
iElEVR8bA8Y-00231-00054032-00054454 37 euros
iElEVR8bA8Y-00232-00054455-00054682 okay
iElEVR8bA8Y-00233-00054683-00054975 now this is a number of again of a
iElEVR8bA8Y-00234-00054976-00055207 conversion an experience number let's
iElEVR8bA8Y-00235-00055208-00055363 say 28
iElEVR8bA8Y-00236-00055364-00055519 20.8
iElEVR8bA8Y-00237-00055520-00055807 take you up upon that so what happens
iElEVR8bA8Y-00238-00055808-00055894 now
iElEVR8bA8Y-00239-00055895-00056079 the book is still for free but you still
iElEVR8bA8Y-00240-00056079-00056326 got the revenue right the revenue of the
iElEVR8bA8Y-00241-00056327-00056519 book
iElEVR8bA8Y-00242-00056520-00056703 that's the shipping that is so you got
iElEVR8bA8Y-00243-00056704-00056982 the 795.
iElEVR8bA8Y-00244-00056983-00057247 so if you're one of the 13 that buys
iElEVR8bA8Y-00245-00057248-00057494 this that and that also says hey i'm
iElEVR8bA8Y-00246-00057495-00057742 gonna buy this also
iElEVR8bA8Y-00247-00057744-00057926 now what does this mean
iElEVR8bA8Y-00248-00057927-00058150 this means this percentage means that
iElEVR8bA8Y-00249-00058151-00058479 approximately uh one in five people
iElEVR8bA8Y-00250-00058479-00058623 says
iElEVR8bA8Y-00251-00058624-00058911 yes i want that audio file right that's
iElEVR8bA8Y-00252-00058912-00059263 what 20.8 means one in about one in five
iElEVR8bA8Y-00253-00059264-00059415 people
iElEVR8bA8Y-00254-00059416-00059687 so you got zero zero zero zero thirty
iElEVR8bA8Y-00255-00059688-00059926 seven so on average
iElEVR8bA8Y-00256-00059927-00060063 per
iElEVR8bA8Y-00257-00060064-00060399 person who considers use uh buying the
iElEVR8bA8Y-00258-00060400-00060542 audio file
iElEVR8bA8Y-00259-00060544-00060800 on average
iElEVR8bA8Y-00260-00060801-00061015 [Music]
iElEVR8bA8Y-00261-00061016-00061366 the revenue of of this is 20
iElEVR8bA8Y-00262-00061367-00061663 of 20.8 of the 37.
iElEVR8bA8Y-00263-00061664-00061879 you understand so you take that 37 and
iElEVR8bA8Y-00264-00061879-00062094 you just spread it over the number of
iElEVR8bA8Y-00265-00062095-00062230 people
iElEVR8bA8Y-00266-00062232-00062519 who are considering this so you got the
iElEVR8bA8Y-00267-00062520-00062687 revenue
iElEVR8bA8Y-00268-00062688-00062830 of the bum
iElEVR8bA8Y-00269-00062832-00063119 which in this case is the 20.8 percent
iElEVR8bA8Y-00270-00063120-00063347 of 37 which is
iElEVR8bA8Y-00271-00063348-00063879 7.70 so the total revenue now is 15
iElEVR8bA8Y-00272-00063879-00064094 and 64 cents
iElEVR8bA8Y-00273-00064095-00064350 that's the money you get in right but
iElEVR8bA8Y-00274-00064351-00064542 you're paying the cost
iElEVR8bA8Y-00275-00064544-00064663 per lead
iElEVR8bA8Y-00276-00064664-00064894 still of 23
iElEVR8bA8Y-00277-00064895-00065071 so you're still
iElEVR8bA8Y-00278-00065072-00065447 not totally profitable you're still
iElEVR8bA8Y-00279-00065448-00065815 7.35
iElEVR8bA8Y-00280-00065816-00065959 negative
iElEVR8bA8Y-00281-00065960-00066150 still in
iElEVR8bA8Y-00282-00066151-00066399 uh still not making enough money
iElEVR8bA8Y-00283-00066400-00066631 to pay for the advertisement
iElEVR8bA8Y-00284-00066632-00066815 so what do you do now
iElEVR8bA8Y-00285-00066816-00066975 so you got a book
iElEVR8bA8Y-00286-00066976-00067150 someone buys that book he's one of the
iElEVR8bA8Y-00287-00067151-00067263 13
iElEVR8bA8Y-00288-00067264-00067535 and he sees that oh okay i got an audio
iElEVR8bA8Y-00289-00067536-00067711 file yes or no if
iElEVR8bA8Y-00290-00067712-00067919 it's yes the average
iElEVR8bA8Y-00291-00067920-00068167 revenue that you get from that
iElEVR8bA8Y-00292-00068168-00068303 is
iElEVR8bA8Y-00293-00068304-00068479 37
iElEVR8bA8Y-00294-00068480-00068591 times
iElEVR8bA8Y-00295-00068592-00068919 that percentage
iElEVR8bA8Y-00296-00068920-00069055 okay
iElEVR8bA8Y-00297-00069056-00069215 so how do you make this prop because
iElEVR8bA8Y-00298-00069216-00069438 it's still not profitable right
iElEVR8bA8Y-00299-00069439-00069591 so you do that
iElEVR8bA8Y-00300-00069592-00069726 by
iElEVR8bA8Y-00301-00069727-00069950 using something called
iElEVR8bA8Y-00302-00069951-00070031 uh
iElEVR8bA8Y-00303-00070032-00070311 a one-time offer let me see if i can
iElEVR8bA8Y-00304-00070312-00070535 draw this so that you can get it so
iElEVR8bA8Y-00305-00070536-00070799 there you go
iElEVR8bA8Y-00306-00070800-00071143 okay there we go so another sales page i
iElEVR8bA8Y-00307-00071144-00071294 don't know why he does that but never
iElEVR8bA8Y-00308-00071295-00071503 mind
iElEVR8bA8Y-00309-00071504-00071847 okay this is called a one-time offer
iElEVR8bA8Y-00310-00071848-00072079 and let's uh let's just say this is one
iElEVR8bA8Y-00311-00072080-00072326 time offer number one
iElEVR8bA8Y-00312-00072327-00072494 yes you're getting it there is another
iElEVR8bA8Y-00313-00072495-00072767 there is a number two and let's say that
iElEVR8bA8Y-00314-00072768-00072919 this is you got the book you got the
iElEVR8bA8Y-00315-00072920-00073182 audio file and this is of course on how
iElEVR8bA8Y-00316-00073183-00073375 to implement whatever
iElEVR8bA8Y-00317-00073376-00073559 you are reading in the book and the
iElEVR8bA8Y-00318-00073560-00073719 audio file
iElEVR8bA8Y-00319-00073720-00074071 and let's say that this has a price of i
iElEVR8bA8Y-00320-00074072-00074282 don't know
iElEVR8bA8Y-00321-00074283-00074615 97 and the conversion for this one
iElEVR8bA8Y-00322-00074616-00074750 because these those are those
iElEVR8bA8Y-00323-00074751-00075143 percentages they're called conversion
iElEVR8bA8Y-00324-00075144-00075535 1 out of 10 almost 1 out of 10 decides
iElEVR8bA8Y-00325-00075536-00075759 one of the 10 that buys the book
iElEVR8bA8Y-00326-00075760-00076023 decides okay i'm going to buy the course
iElEVR8bA8Y-00327-00076024-00076135 also
iElEVR8bA8Y-00328-00076136-00076279 to make sure
iElEVR8bA8Y-00329-00076280-00076526 that i implement whatever is in the book
iElEVR8bA8Y-00330-00076527-00076791 one out of 10 people so
iElEVR8bA8Y-00331-00076792-00077023 you've got a lot nine times you've got a
iElEVR8bA8Y-00332-00077024-00077350 zero zero zero zero zero zero zero
iElEVR8bA8Y-00333-00077351-00077567 ninety seven euros
iElEVR8bA8Y-00334-00077568-00077831 so the average
iElEVR8bA8Y-00335-00077832-00077982 of uh
iElEVR8bA8Y-00336-00077983-00078167 of that is
iElEVR8bA8Y-00337-00078168-00078519 if you multiply these two so
iElEVR8bA8Y-00338-00078520-00078799 there you go you got the revenue
iElEVR8bA8Y-00339-00078800-00079023 of
iElEVR8bA8Y-00340-00079024-00079231 the book itself being the shipping you
iElEVR8bA8Y-00341-00079232-00079511 got the revenue of the bum
iElEVR8bA8Y-00342-00079512-00079719 the average revenue of the bump right
iElEVR8bA8Y-00343-00079720-00079926 you got the average revenue
iElEVR8bA8Y-00344-00079927-00080255 of the oto one
iElEVR8bA8Y-00345-00080256-00080494 which is
iElEVR8bA8Y-00346-00080495-00080903 i calculated that 9.62
iElEVR8bA8Y-00347-00080904-00081111 so you've got the total revenue is now
iElEVR8bA8Y-00348-00081112-00081503 25 27 12 the total cost
iElEVR8bA8Y-00349-00081504-00081823 is still per lead is still 23
iElEVR8bA8Y-00350-00081824-00082079 so now all of a sudden
iElEVR8bA8Y-00351-00082080-00082279 we're making profit
iElEVR8bA8Y-00352-00082280-00082479 is this cool or what
iElEVR8bA8Y-00353-00082480-00082799 is this cool or what
iElEVR8bA8Y-00354-00082800-00082894 so
iElEVR8bA8Y-00355-00082895-00083111 what i'm saying with this
iElEVR8bA8Y-00356-00083112-00083367 is that if you only have a book and you
iElEVR8bA8Y-00357-00083368-00083671 want to use facebook ads
iElEVR8bA8Y-00358-00083672-00083855 if you have not if you don't have the
iElEVR8bA8Y-00359-00083856-00084103 other ones
iElEVR8bA8Y-00360-00084104-00084311 i'm gonna use oh i have a spotlight
iElEVR8bA8Y-00361-00084312-00084535 that's cute if you don't have the other
iElEVR8bA8Y-00362-00084536-00084791 ones you're going to make a loss see
iElEVR8bA8Y-00363-00084792-00084911 right here
iElEVR8bA8Y-00364-00084912-00085062 right here because you're not getting
iElEVR8bA8Y-00365-00085063-00085438 the money for the book you're getting uh
iElEVR8bA8Y-00366-00085439-00085775 the book itself has no revenue
iElEVR8bA8Y-00367-00085776-00086015 bringing bringing in no revenue but you
iElEVR8bA8Y-00368-00086016-00086231 do get shipping costs
iElEVR8bA8Y-00369-00086232-00086543 and you got the cost of the ads
iElEVR8bA8Y-00370-00086544-00086671 right
iElEVR8bA8Y-00371-00086672-00086975 so you're not making any money here
iElEVR8bA8Y-00372-00086976-00087047 so
iElEVR8bA8Y-00373-00087048-00087199 you need to add
iElEVR8bA8Y-00374-00087200-00087367 more offers
iElEVR8bA8Y-00375-00087368-00087575 more products
iElEVR8bA8Y-00376-00087576-00087815 basically that's what that is just the
iElEVR8bA8Y-00377-00087816-00088087 key what if you see a lot of people
iElEVR8bA8Y-00378-00088088-00088359 using facebook ads online and you see if
iElEVR8bA8Y-00379-00088360-00088511 you ever clicked
iElEVR8bA8Y-00380-00088512-00088799 one of those ads you always see
iElEVR8bA8Y-00381-00088800-00088975 an order bump
iElEVR8bA8Y-00382-00088976-00089359 or you always see next offers
iElEVR8bA8Y-00383-00089360-00089662 right like this because this is not this
iElEVR8bA8Y-00384-00089663-00089879 is basically never end well it's not
iElEVR8bA8Y-00385-00089880-00090023 never ending but
iElEVR8bA8Y-00386-00090024-00090167 it's basically
iElEVR8bA8Y-00387-00090168-00090415 what you still see there's sometimes
iElEVR8bA8Y-00388-00090416-00090775 even an oto number two
iElEVR8bA8Y-00389-00090776-00090991 behind it
iElEVR8bA8Y-00390-00090992-00091206 it doesn't go unlimited by the way
iElEVR8bA8Y-00391-00091207-00091487 because people at the end
iElEVR8bA8Y-00392-00091488-00091855 say okay i'm done buying this is it but
iElEVR8bA8Y-00393-00091856-00092118 experience from other
iElEVR8bA8Y-00394-00092119-00092311 other entrepreneurs
iElEVR8bA8Y-00395-00092312-00092638 if you're using two otos you're still
iElEVR8bA8Y-00396-00092639-00092823 are able to make money out of the two
iElEVR8bA8Y-00397-00092824-00092943 oto's
iElEVR8bA8Y-00398-00092944-00093174 so let's say if this was a course to
iElEVR8bA8Y-00399-00093175-00093479 implement that book what would this be
iElEVR8bA8Y-00400-00093480-00093735 i have no idea something with uh
iElEVR8bA8Y-00401-00093736-00093991 i don't know a team that you can call to
iElEVR8bA8Y-00402-00093992-00094182 support you you know you
iElEVR8bA8Y-00403-00094183-00094415 you have a claim to
iElEVR8bA8Y-00404-00094416-00094574 uh
iElEVR8bA8Y-00405-00094575-00094862 a team
iElEVR8bA8Y-00406-00094863-00095111 i don't know what to
iElEVR8bA8Y-00407-00095112-00095326 give it doesn't really
iElEVR8bA8Y-00408-00095327-00095631 it doesn't matter of course but
iElEVR8bA8Y-00409-00095632-00096118 let's say that that has a price of 297
iElEVR8bA8Y-00410-00096119-00096255 dollars
iElEVR8bA8Y-00411-00096256-00096374 and
iElEVR8bA8Y-00412-00096375-00096526 let's say that
iElEVR8bA8Y-00413-00096527-00096774 some people still
iElEVR8bA8Y-00414-00096775-00096991 need you to take up on that
iElEVR8bA8Y-00415-00096992-00097199 because they they don't have
iElEVR8bA8Y-00416-00097200-00097303 um
iElEVR8bA8Y-00417-00097304-00097535 they think okay with a book and a
iElEVR8bA8Y-00418-00097536-00097791 a course or a do-it-yourself course okay
iElEVR8bA8Y-00419-00097792-00098006 i can do it all by myself but you know
iElEVR8bA8Y-00420-00098007-00098279 if you use a coach it goes a lot faster
iElEVR8bA8Y-00421-00098280-00098382 so
iElEVR8bA8Y-00422-00098383-00098615 let's let's go this route
iElEVR8bA8Y-00423-00098616-00098806 they can so from the people who buy the
iElEVR8bA8Y-00424-00098807-00099006 book and let's say that
iElEVR8bA8Y-00425-00099007-00099311 they died this and this and this
iElEVR8bA8Y-00426-00099312-00099518 those are the options that are there so
iElEVR8bA8Y-00427-00099519-00099823 what happens now what happens now
iElEVR8bA8Y-00428-00099824-00100038 you still got the revenue of the book
iElEVR8bA8Y-00429-00100039-00100287 you know the shipping
iElEVR8bA8Y-00430-00100288-00100718 you still got the revenue of the bump
iElEVR8bA8Y-00431-00100719-00101047 the audio file the average revenue you
iElEVR8bA8Y-00432-00101048-00101350 still got the average revenue of the oto
iElEVR8bA8Y-00433-00101351-00101487 one
iElEVR8bA8Y-00434-00101488-00101718 which is nine dollars and 62 cents and
iElEVR8bA8Y-00435-00101719-00101991 you got the revenue of the oto2
iElEVR8bA8Y-00436-00101992-00102279 which in this case is that
iElEVR8bA8Y-00437-00102280-00102471 you know this is almost five percent so
iElEVR8bA8Y-00438-00102472-00102686 that is one in 20 people
iElEVR8bA8Y-00439-00102688-00102982 so you've got 20 times 19 times a zero
iElEVR8bA8Y-00440-00102983-00103094 and
iElEVR8bA8Y-00441-00103095-00103558 20 of times it's 297 so on average that
iElEVR8bA8Y-00442-00103559-00103871 is 12 euros and 44. so now you got a
iElEVR8bA8Y-00443-00103872-00104054 total revenue
iElEVR8bA8Y-00444-00104055-00104406 total revenue of 37.71 you got a total
iElEVR8bA8Y-00445-00104407-00104510 cost
iElEVR8bA8Y-00446-00104511-00104943 of 23 per lead which is this one
iElEVR8bA8Y-00447-00104944-00105095 so you've got now
iElEVR8bA8Y-00448-00105096-00105399 now we're talking now we are having
iElEVR8bA8Y-00449-00105400-00105695 really profit right for every lead that
iElEVR8bA8Y-00450-00105696-00105958 comes in every one of this
iElEVR8bA8Y-00451-00105959-00106151 13
iElEVR8bA8Y-00452-00106152-00106375 it costs you 23
iElEVR8bA8Y-00453-00106376-00106847 but it will give you almost 15
iElEVR8bA8Y-00454-00106848-00107302 dollars as a revenue
iElEVR8bA8Y-00455-00107303-00107599 so as a pure revenue right it gives you
iElEVR8bA8Y-00456-00107600-00107878 37 as revenue i said it wrong it gives
iElEVR8bA8Y-00457-00107879-00108158 you 37 as revenue and gives you a profit
iElEVR8bA8Y-00458-00108159-00108575 of almost 15 euros so basically whatever
iElEVR8bA8Y-00459-00108576-00108847 money you put in here
iElEVR8bA8Y-00460-00108848-00109023 it comes out
iElEVR8bA8Y-00461-00109024-00109286 with a much bigger number in terms of
iElEVR8bA8Y-00462-00109288-00109454 revenue so you're making always making
iElEVR8bA8Y-00463-00109455-00109710 profit like this and this is why because
iElEVR8bA8Y-00464-00109711-00109919 this profit number is positive it's also
iElEVR8bA8Y-00465-00109920-00110119 it's already positive here
iElEVR8bA8Y-00466-00110120-00110486 this is why it's basically free
iElEVR8bA8Y-00467-00110488-00110647 because
iElEVR8bA8Y-00468-00110648-00110975 this is a positive number right sure you
iElEVR8bA8Y-00469-00110976-00111223 got the cost of the shipping
iElEVR8bA8Y-00470-00111224-00111527 that is included here somewhere else but
iElEVR8bA8Y-00471-00111528-00111710 let's say you make it but you can make a
iElEVR8bA8Y-00472-00111711-00112143 deal with some uh shipping supplier or
iElEVR8bA8Y-00473-00112144-00112327 however you want to call it
iElEVR8bA8Y-00474-00112328-00112734 uh to keep the cost low right so yes
iElEVR8bA8Y-00475-00112735-00112951 basically this should be yours that
iElEVR8bA8Y-00476-00112952-00113110 should also be included but if you have
iElEVR8bA8Y-00477-00113111-00113302 more books to sell than the cost per
iElEVR8bA8Y-00478-00113303-00113558 book is also going down that's why it's
iElEVR8bA8Y-00479-00113559-00113799 not included in this calculation
iElEVR8bA8Y-00480-00113800-00114031 but this is about facebook ads because
iElEVR8bA8Y-00481-00114032-00114207 if you're not doing free plus shipping
iElEVR8bA8Y-00482-00114208-00114343 if you're just
iElEVR8bA8Y-00483-00114344-00114615 doing a digital product like a paid
iElEVR8bA8Y-00484-00114616-00114783 ebook or something
iElEVR8bA8Y-00485-00114783-00114910 then
iElEVR8bA8Y-00486-00114911-00115119 this this would not be shipping this
iElEVR8bA8Y-00487-00115120-00115327 would be the price of a paid ebook for
iElEVR8bA8Y-00488-00115328-00115551 seven euros or whatever you want to say
iElEVR8bA8Y-00489-00115552-00115758 and then it's still valid this is here
iElEVR8bA8Y-00490-00115759-00115902 to show you
iElEVR8bA8Y-00491-00115903-00116183 how you can use facebook ads
iElEVR8bA8Y-00492-00116183-00116447 to make a profit
iElEVR8bA8Y-00493-00116448-00116527 so
iElEVR8bA8Y-00494-00116528-00116807 the cost of the ads are covered because
iElEVR8bA8Y-00495-00116808-00117047 the revenue is bigger than
iElEVR8bA8Y-00496-00117048-00117327 the cost for the for the advertisement
iElEVR8bA8Y-00497-00117328-00117583 but the beauty of this is
iElEVR8bA8Y-00498-00117583-00117775 because it's not only
iElEVR8bA8Y-00499-00117776-00118007 do you have sold something you got his
iElEVR8bA8Y-00500-00118008-00118271 email address because that was given
iElEVR8bA8Y-00501-00118272-00118431 here
iElEVR8bA8Y-00502-00118432-00118639 because in where the way to get that
iElEVR8bA8Y-00503-00118640-00118910 book and the way to get to apply for
iElEVR8bA8Y-00504-00118911-00119063 free plus shipping
iElEVR8bA8Y-00505-00119064-00119423 is you ask for their email and now
iElEVR8bA8Y-00506-00119424-00119647 you got an email list
iElEVR8bA8Y-00507-00119648-00119839 now you can build your email list like
iElEVR8bA8Y-00508-00119840-00119919 this
iElEVR8bA8Y-00509-00119920-00120086 do you want to see do you see how this
iElEVR8bA8Y-00510-00120088-00120183 works
iElEVR8bA8Y-00511-00120183-00120254 you
iElEVR8bA8Y-00512-00120255-00120351 you
iElEVR8bA8Y-00513-00120352-00120639 get enough revenue to pay for the
iElEVR8bA8Y-00514-00120640-00120886 advertisement and you got a free
iElEVR8bA8Y-00515-00120888-00121007 email
iElEVR8bA8Y-00516-00121008-00121214 a free person on your email list that
iElEVR8bA8Y-00517-00121215-00121423 you can now
iElEVR8bA8Y-00518-00121424-00121702 bring to other office other products
iElEVR8bA8Y-00519-00121703-00121919 right because if you're doing it the
iElEVR8bA8Y-00520-00121920-00122158 right way your business you have a value
iElEVR8bA8Y-00521-00122159-00122399 letter you know you want to bring them
iElEVR8bA8Y-00522-00122400-00122654 in with a book like this for instance
iElEVR8bA8Y-00523-00122655-00122919 and then the next step is i don't know
iElEVR8bA8Y-00524-00122920-00123063 uh
iElEVR8bA8Y-00525-00123064-00123207 who
iElEVR8bA8Y-00526-00123208-00123407 a subscription to if you take click
iElEVR8bA8Y-00527-00123408-00123631 funnels as an example as a subscription
iElEVR8bA8Y-00528-00123632-00123719 to
iElEVR8bA8Y-00529-00123720-00123958 uh the software that the that the
iElEVR8bA8Y-00530-00123959-00124151 company has to offer and then a
iElEVR8bA8Y-00531-00124152-00124375 mastermind group and then
iElEVR8bA8Y-00532-00124376-00124614 in a circle group or something like that
iElEVR8bA8Y-00533-00124615-00124927 you know um so then but you got the
iElEVR8bA8Y-00534-00124928-00125039 person
iElEVR8bA8Y-00535-00125040-00125327 inside your business now so now you can
iElEVR8bA8Y-00536-00125328-00125534 bring them up to the value ladder that
iElEVR8bA8Y-00537-00125535-00125671 you have for them that's what it's
iElEVR8bA8Y-00538-00125672-00125895 called or that sequence that i just told
iElEVR8bA8Y-00539-00125896-00126127 you you know the book the software the
iElEVR8bA8Y-00540-00126128-00126366 mastermind and the inner circle is
iElEVR8bA8Y-00541-00126367-00126702 called a value ladder basically
iElEVR8bA8Y-00542-00126703-00126943 if the person
iElEVR8bA8Y-00543-00126944-00127119 has read this book and he's been you
iElEVR8bA8Y-00544-00127120-00127295 know and he did the audio file and he
iElEVR8bA8Y-00545-00127296-00127447 has the course for it
iElEVR8bA8Y-00546-00127448-00127686 i think then he's going to ask okay
iElEVR8bA8Y-00547-00127688-00127895 where's the book oh that's it in the
iElEVR8bA8Y-00548-00127896-00128023 other room
iElEVR8bA8Y-00549-00128024-00128183 what's next
iElEVR8bA8Y-00550-00128183-00128334 what's next
iElEVR8bA8Y-00551-00128335-00128414 well
iElEVR8bA8Y-00552-00128415-00128678 then whatever it is in the book
iElEVR8bA8Y-00553-00128679-00128831 brings you to the next step he will tell
iElEVR8bA8Y-00554-00128832-00129183 you what he needs next so the step from
iElEVR8bA8Y-00555-00129183-00129590 okay i'm here as a customer what's next
iElEVR8bA8Y-00556-00129591-00129886 that step is the next step in the what's
iElEVR8bA8Y-00557-00129888-00130086 called the value ladder we'll talk about
iElEVR8bA8Y-00558-00130088-00130247 that some other time because it's a very
iElEVR8bA8Y-00559-00130248-00130519 important thing that to have in your
iElEVR8bA8Y-00560-00130520-00130775 business but this is how i wanted to
iElEVR8bA8Y-00561-00130776-00130871 show you
iElEVR8bA8Y-00562-00130872-00131007 how people
iElEVR8bA8Y-00563-00131008-00131302 successful people do facebook ads
iElEVR8bA8Y-00564-00131303-00131727 it's not just a big like
iElEVR8bA8Y-00565-00131728-00131943 hole where you put in money and just
iElEVR8bA8Y-00566-00131944-00132159 hope and pray
iElEVR8bA8Y-00567-00132160-00132383 there is a science behind this
iElEVR8bA8Y-00568-00132384-00132590 now one of the things that you need to
iElEVR8bA8Y-00569-00132591-00132814 know and that's not what they're talking
iElEVR8bA8Y-00570-00132815-00133102 about is
iElEVR8bA8Y-00571-00133103-00133423 you need to know your cost per lead
iElEVR8bA8Y-00572-00133424-00133799 you need to know your conversion numbers
iElEVR8bA8Y-00573-00133800-00134039 these three numbers
iElEVR8bA8Y-00574-00134040-00134231 and you need to have of course the
iElEVR8bA8Y-00575-00134232-00134483 products
iElEVR8bA8Y-00576-00134484-00134847 right now how do you get these
iElEVR8bA8Y-00577-00134848-00135039 i should have used in a different color
iElEVR8bA8Y-00578-00135040-00135159 doesn't matter
iElEVR8bA8Y-00579-00135160-00135551 so how do you get these type of numbers
iElEVR8bA8Y-00580-00135552-00135759 well first of all if you have already
iElEVR8bA8Y-00581-00135760-00136007 have a list
iElEVR8bA8Y-00582-00136008-00136119 test it
iElEVR8bA8Y-00583-00136120-00136302 test it out
iElEVR8bA8Y-00584-00136303-00136383 right
iElEVR8bA8Y-00585-00136384-00136519 just use them
iElEVR8bA8Y-00586-00136520-00136759 make make these pages
iElEVR8bA8Y-00587-00136760-00137159 uh if they are if you have emails that
iElEVR8bA8Y-00588-00137160-00137414 haven't gone through this funnel yet
iElEVR8bA8Y-00589-00137415-00137607 yeah that's of course otherwise they're
iElEVR8bA8Y-00590-00137608-00137727 getting the book for free and they're
iElEVR8bA8Y-00591-00137728-00138014 not buying anything so if you make these
iElEVR8bA8Y-00592-00138015-00138319 pages have these products and bring your
iElEVR8bA8Y-00593-00138320-00138678 bring your current existing email list
iElEVR8bA8Y-00594-00138679-00138919 in this funnel and see what the
iElEVR8bA8Y-00595-00138920-00139183 conversions are see what
iElEVR8bA8Y-00596-00139184-00139471 the cost per lead is going to be
iElEVR8bA8Y-00597-00139472-00139671 because that that will tell you and that
iElEVR8bA8Y-00598-00139672-00139887 will uh during
iElEVR8bA8Y-00599-00139888-00140023 during time
iElEVR8bA8Y-00600-00140024-00140263 over time i have to say
iElEVR8bA8Y-00601-00140264-00140407 these numbers
iElEVR8bA8Y-00602-00140408-00140495 will
iElEVR8bA8Y-00603-00140496-00140663 stabilize
iElEVR8bA8Y-00604-00140664-00140943 they will be more or less the same
iElEVR8bA8Y-00605-00140944-00141175 that's why this is a system
iElEVR8bA8Y-00606-00141176-00141519 and not just a random set of numbers
iElEVR8bA8Y-00607-00141520-00141727 if you don't have that email listed you
iElEVR8bA8Y-00608-00141728-00141927 can start somewhere
iElEVR8bA8Y-00609-00141928-00142166 what you can do is
iElEVR8bA8Y-00610-00142167-00142583 use facebook ads to start and to test it
iElEVR8bA8Y-00611-00142584-00142783 you know use a
iElEVR8bA8Y-00612-00142784-00143143 50 or one hundred dollars max
iElEVR8bA8Y-00613-00143144-00143263 um
iElEVR8bA8Y-00614-00143264-00143399 for
iElEVR8bA8Y-00615-00143400-00143559 one day two days
iElEVR8bA8Y-00616-00143560-00143895 to see what your conversion numbers are
iElEVR8bA8Y-00617-00143896-00144159 because if the conversion is low
iElEVR8bA8Y-00618-00144160-00144263 like this
iElEVR8bA8Y-00619-00144264-00144431 uh this is a good number by the way but
iElEVR8bA8Y-00620-00144432-00144687 if your conversion number is low like
iElEVR8bA8Y-00621-00144688-00144951 like uh two percent or something you
iElEVR8bA8Y-00622-00144952-00145166 need to consider
iElEVR8bA8Y-00623-00145167-00145414 whether what whatever you have to offer
iElEVR8bA8Y-00624-00145415-00145654 is good or whether your hook
iElEVR8bA8Y-00625-00145655-00145911 your story so what what do you write
iElEVR8bA8Y-00626-00145912-00146071 here and
iElEVR8bA8Y-00627-00146072-00146335 your offer itself
iElEVR8bA8Y-00628-00146336-00146551 is any good remember we talked about
iElEVR8bA8Y-00629-00146552-00146743 that hook story offer
iElEVR8bA8Y-00630-00146744-00146990 book story offer hook story offer hook
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iFpZZG2Kguk-00000-00000056-00000296 classical mechanics describes the motion
iFpZZG2Kguk-00001-00000297-00000521 of macroscopic objects from projectiles
iFpZZG2Kguk-00002-00000522-00000713 to parts of machinery and astronomical
iFpZZG2Kguk-00003-00000714-00001003 objects such as spacecraft planets stars
iFpZZG2Kguk-00004-00001005-00001303 and galaxies if the present state of an
iFpZZG2Kguk-00005-00001304-00001472 object is known it is possible to
iFpZZG2Kguk-00006-00001473-00001589 predict by the laws of classical
iFpZZG2Kguk-00007-00001590-00001798 mechanics how it will move in the future
iFpZZG2Kguk-00008-00001798-00002009 determinism and how it has moved in the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00009-00002010-00002300 past reversibility the earliest
iFpZZG2Kguk-00010-00002301-00002492 development of classical mechanics is
iFpZZG2Kguk-00011-00002493-00002683 often referred to as Newtonian mechanics
iFpZZG2Kguk-00012-00002684-00002959 it consists of the physical concepts
iFpZZG2Kguk-00013-00002960-00003146 employed by and the mathematical methods
iFpZZG2Kguk-00014-00003147-00003308 invented by Isaac Newton and Gottfried
iFpZZG2Kguk-00015-00003309-00003547 Wilhelm Leibniz and others in the 17th
iFpZZG2Kguk-00016-00003548-00003749 century to describe the motion of bodies
iFpZZG2Kguk-00017-00003750-00003902 under the influence of a system of
iFpZZG2Kguk-00018-00003903-00004238 forces later more abstract methods were
iFpZZG2Kguk-00019-00004239-00004415 developed leading to the reformulations
iFpZZG2Kguk-00020-00004416-00004588 of classical mechanics known as
iFpZZG2Kguk-00021-00004589-00004763 Lagrangian mechanics and Hamiltonian
iFpZZG2Kguk-00022-00004764-00005024 mechanics these advances made
iFpZZG2Kguk-00023-00005025-00005186 predominantly in the 18th and 19th
iFpZZG2Kguk-00024-00005187-00005435 centuries extend substantially beyond
iFpZZG2Kguk-00025-00005436-00005611 Newton's work particularly through their
iFpZZG2Kguk-00026-00005612-00005867 use of analytical mechanics they are
iFpZZG2Kguk-00027-00005868-00006086 with some modification also used in all
iFpZZG2Kguk-00028-00006087-00006379 areas of modern physics classical
iFpZZG2Kguk-00029-00006380-00006571 mechanics provides extremely accurate
iFpZZG2Kguk-00030-00006572-00006760 results when studying large objects that
iFpZZG2Kguk-00031-00006761-00006950 are not extremely massive and speeds not
iFpZZG2Kguk-00032-00006951-00007187 approaching the speed of light when the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00033-00007188-00007367 objects being examined have about the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00034-00007368-00007562 size of an atom diameter it becomes
iFpZZG2Kguk-00035-00007563-00007751 necessary to introduce the other major
iFpZZG2Kguk-00036-00007752-00007984 subfield of mechanics quantum mechanics
iFpZZG2Kguk-00037-00007984-00008231 to describe philosophies that are not
iFpZZG2Kguk-00038-00008232-00008414 small compared to the speed of light
iFpZZG2Kguk-00039-00008415-00008684 special relativity is needed in case
iFpZZG2Kguk-00040-00008685-00008858 that objects become extremely massive
iFpZZG2Kguk-00041-00008859-00009091 general relativity becomes applicable
iFpZZG2Kguk-00042-00009092-00009359 however a number of modern sources to
iFpZZG2Kguk-00043-00009360-00009548 include relativistic mechanics into
iFpZZG2Kguk-00044-00009549-00009698 classical physics which in their view
iFpZZG2Kguk-00045-00009699-00009905 represents classical mechanics in its
iFpZZG2Kguk-00046-00009906-00010533 most developed and accurate form
iFpZZG2Kguk-00047-00010534-00011163 topic description of the theory the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00048-00011164-00011367 following introduces the basic concepts
iFpZZG2Kguk-00049-00011368-00011635 of classical mechanics for simplicity it
iFpZZG2Kguk-00050-00011636-00011845 often models real-world objects as point
iFpZZG2Kguk-00051-00011846-00012056 particles objects with negligible size
iFpZZG2Kguk-00052-00012057-00012310 the motion of a point particle is
iFpZZG2Kguk-00053-00012311-00012480 characterized by a small number of
iFpZZG2Kguk-00054-00012481-00012712 parameters its position mass and the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00055-00012713-00012940 forces applied to it each of these
iFpZZG2Kguk-00056-00012941-00013228 parameters is discussed in turn in
iFpZZG2Kguk-00057-00013229-00013416 reality the kind of objects that
iFpZZG2Kguk-00058-00013418-00013618 classical mechanics can describe always
iFpZZG2Kguk-00059-00013619-00013849 have a nonzero size the physics of very
iFpZZG2Kguk-00060-00013850-00014077 small particles such as the electron is
iFpZZG2Kguk-00061-00014078-00014233 more accurately described by quantum
iFpZZG2Kguk-00062-00014234-00014518 mechanics objects with nonzero size have
iFpZZG2Kguk-00063-00014519-00014668 more complicated behavior than
iFpZZG2Kguk-00064-00014669-00014880 hypothetical point particles because of
iFpZZG2Kguk-00065-00014881-00015088 the additional degrees of freedom eg a
iFpZZG2Kguk-00066-00015088-00015291 baseball can spin while it is moving
iFpZZG2Kguk-00067-00015291-00015555 however the results for point particles
iFpZZG2Kguk-00068-00015556-00015744 can be used to study such objects by
iFpZZG2Kguk-00069-00015745-00015933 treating them as composite objects made
iFpZZG2Kguk-00070-00015934-00016119 of a large number of collectively acting
iFpZZG2Kguk-00071-00016120-00016390 point particles the center of mass of a
iFpZZG2Kguk-00072-00016391-00016575 composite object behaves like a point
iFpZZG2Kguk-00073-00016576-00016864 particle classical mechanics uses
iFpZZG2Kguk-00074-00016865-00017050 common-sense notions of how matter and
iFpZZG2Kguk-00075-00017051-00017328 forces exist and interact it assumes
iFpZZG2Kguk-00076-00017329-00017500 that matter and energy have definite
iFpZZG2Kguk-00077-00017501-00017709 noble attributes such as location in
iFpZZG2Kguk-00078-00017710-00017931 space and speed non relativistic
iFpZZG2Kguk-00079-00017932-00018187 mechanics also assumes that forces act
iFpZZG2Kguk-00080-00018188-00018412 instantaneously see also action at a
iFpZZG2Kguk-00081-00018413-00019131 distance topic position and its
iFpZZG2Kguk-00082-00019132-00019644 derivatives the position of a point
iFpZZG2Kguk-00083-00019645-00019843 particle is to find in relation to a
iFpZZG2Kguk-00084-00019844-00020008 coordinate system centered on an
iFpZZG2Kguk-00085-00020009-00020208 arbitrary fixed reference point in space
iFpZZG2Kguk-00086-00020209-00020425 called the origin Oh a simple coordinate
iFpZZG2Kguk-00087-00020426-00020611 system might describe the position of a
iFpZZG2Kguk-00088-00020612-00020821 particle P with a vector notated by an
iFpZZG2Kguk-00089-00020822-00020986 arrow labeled R that points from the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00090-00020987-00021202 origin o to point P in general the point
iFpZZG2Kguk-00091-00021203-00021381 particle does not need to be stationary
iFpZZG2Kguk-00092-00021382-00021622 relative to O in cases where P is moving
iFpZZG2Kguk-00093-00021623-00021811 relative to O R is defined as a function
iFpZZG2Kguk-00094-00021812-00022108 of T time in pre Einstein relativity
iFpZZG2Kguk-00095-00022109-00022369 known as Galilean relativity time is
iFpZZG2Kguk-00096-00022370-00022567 considered an absolute ie the time
iFpZZG2Kguk-00097-00022568-00022719 interval that is observed to elapsed
iFpZZG2Kguk-00098-00022720-00022894 between any given pair of events is the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00099-00022895-00023167 same for all observers in addition to
iFpZZG2Kguk-00100-00023168-00023365 relying on absolute time classical
iFpZZG2Kguk-00101-00023366-00023590 mechanics assumes Euclidean geometry for
iFpZZG2Kguk-00102-00023591-00024131 the structure of space
iFpZZG2Kguk-00103-00024132-00024783 topic velocity and speed the velocity or
iFpZZG2Kguk-00104-00024784-00024972 the rate of change of position with time
iFpZZG2Kguk-00105-00024973-00025141 is defined as the derivative of the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00106-00025142-00025847 position with respect to time V equals D
iFpZZG2Kguk-00107-00025848-00026424 D T display style math BF v equals
iFpZZG2Kguk-00108-00026425-00026877 mathram d math BF r over mathram dt in
iFpZZG2Kguk-00109-00026878-00027079 classical mechanics velocities are
iFpZZG2Kguk-00110-00027080-00027337 directly additive and subtractive for
iFpZZG2Kguk-00111-00027338-00027583 example if one car travels east at 60
iFpZZG2Kguk-00112-00027583-00027868 km/h and passes another car traveling in
iFpZZG2Kguk-00113-00027869-00028164 the same direction at 50 km/h the slower
iFpZZG2Kguk-00114-00028166-00028327 car perceives the faster car is
iFpZZG2Kguk-00115-00028327-00028587 traveling east at 60 minus 50 equals 10
iFpZZG2Kguk-00116-00028588-00028852 kilometers per hour however from the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00117-00028852-00029040 perspective of the faster car the slower
iFpZZG2Kguk-00118-00029041-00029254 car is moving 10 kilometers per hour to
iFpZZG2Kguk-00119-00029255-00029458 the West often denoted as minus 10
iFpZZG2Kguk-00120-00029458-00029623 kilometers per hour where the sign
iFpZZG2Kguk-00121-00029624-00029905 implies opposite direction velocities
iFpZZG2Kguk-00122-00029906-00030061 are directly additive as vector
iFpZZG2Kguk-00123-00030062-00030258 quantities they must be dealt with using
iFpZZG2Kguk-00124-00030259-00030649 vector analysis mathematically if the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00125-00030650-00030817 velocity of the first object in the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00126-00030818-00030993 previous discussion is denoted by the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00127-00030994-00031436 vector u
iFpZZG2Kguk-00128-00031437-00031764 topic ud in the velocity of the second
iFpZZG2Kguk-00129-00031765-00032409 object by the vector V they where u is
iFpZZG2Kguk-00130-00032410-00032622 the speed of the first object V is the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00131-00032623-00032835 speed of the second object and DNA are
iFpZZG2Kguk-00132-00032836-00033027 unit vectors in the directions of motion
iFpZZG2Kguk-00133-00033028-00033207 of each object respectively then the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00134-00033208-00033414 velocity of the first object is seen by
iFpZZG2Kguk-00135-00033415-00034232 the second object is u equals u minus V
iFpZZG2Kguk-00136-00034233-00034593 display style math BF u equals math bf
iFpZZG2Kguk-00137-00034594-00034998 you math bfv similarly the first object
iFpZZG2Kguk-00138-00034999-00035163 sees the velocity of the second object
iFpZZG2Kguk-00139-00035164-00036072 is V equals V minus u display style math
iFpZZG2Kguk-00140-00036073-00036546 VF v equals math BF v math BF u when
iFpZZG2Kguk-00141-00036547-00036684 both objects are moving in the same
iFpZZG2Kguk-00142-00036685-00036867 direction this equation can be
iFpZZG2Kguk-00143-00036868-00037793 simplified to u equals u minus V D
iFpZZG2Kguk-00144-00037794-00038193 display style math BF u equals u v math
iFpZZG2Kguk-00145-00038194-00038562 PFD or by ignoring direction the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00146-00038563-00038715 difference can be given in terms of
iFpZZG2Kguk-00147-00038716-00039594 speed only u equals u minus V display
iFpZZG2Kguk-00148-00039595-00040616 style u equals u v topic acceleration
iFpZZG2Kguk-00149-00040617-00040899 the acceleration or rate of change of
iFpZZG2Kguk-00150-00040900-00041061 velocity is the derivative of the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00151-00041062-00041280 velocity with respect to time the second
iFpZZG2Kguk-00152-00041281-00041424 derivative of the position with respect
iFpZZG2Kguk-00153-00041425-00043064 to time equals D V D T equals D - ah D T
iFpZZG2Kguk-00154-00043065-00043406 to display style
iFpZZG2Kguk-00155-00043407-00043784 F equals mathram D math B FV / mathram
iFpZZG2Kguk-00156-00043785-00044186 DT equals mathram D carrot - math PFR /
iFpZZG2Kguk-00157-00044187-00044522 mathram DT carrot to acceleration
iFpZZG2Kguk-00158-00044523-00044726 represents the velocities change over
iFpZZG2Kguk-00159-00044727-00044963 time velocity can change in either
iFpZZG2Kguk-00160-00044964-00045166 magnitude or direction or both
iFpZZG2Kguk-00161-00045167-00045410 occasionally a decrease in the magnitude
iFpZZG2Kguk-00162-00045411-00045677 of velocity V is referred to as
iFpZZG2Kguk-00163-00045678-00045899 deceleration but generally any change in
iFpZZG2Kguk-00164-00045900-00046055 the velocity over time including
iFpZZG2Kguk-00165-00046056-00046268 deceleration is simply referred to as
iFpZZG2Kguk-00166-00046269-00047269 acceleration topic frames of reference
iFpZZG2Kguk-00167-00047270-00047504 while the position velocity and
iFpZZG2Kguk-00168-00047505-00047684 acceleration of a particle can be
iFpZZG2Kguk-00169-00047685-00047843 described with respect to any observer
iFpZZG2Kguk-00170-00047844-00047993 in any state of motion
iFpZZG2Kguk-00171-00047994-00048161 classical mechanics assumes the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00172-00048162-00048323 existence of a special family of
iFpZZG2Kguk-00173-00048324-00048512 reference frames in which the mechanical
iFpZZG2Kguk-00174-00048513-00048695 laws of nature take a comparatively
iFpZZG2Kguk-00175-00048696-00048947 simple form these special reference
iFpZZG2Kguk-00176-00048948-00049183 frames are called inertial frames an
iFpZZG2Kguk-00177-00049184-00049388 inertial frame is a frame of reference
iFpZZG2Kguk-00178-00049389-00049616 within which an object interacting with
iFpZZG2Kguk-00179-00049617-00049877 no forces an idealized situation appears
iFpZZG2Kguk-00180-00049878-00050078 either at rest or moving uniformly in a
iFpZZG2Kguk-00181-00050079-00050285 straight line this is the fundamental
iFpZZG2Kguk-00182-00050286-00050534 definition of an inertial frame these
iFpZZG2Kguk-00183-00050535-00050711 are characterized by the requirement
iFpZZG2Kguk-00184-00050712-00050891 that all forces entering the observers
iFpZZG2Kguk-00185-00050892-00051035 physical laws originated from
iFpZZG2Kguk-00186-00051036-00051265 identifiable sources caused by fields
iFpZZG2Kguk-00187-00051266-00051490 such as electrostatic field caused by
iFpZZG2Kguk-00188-00051491-00051642 static electrical charges
iFpZZG2Kguk-00189-00051644-00051869 electromagnetic field caused by moving
iFpZZG2Kguk-00190-00051870-00052096 charges gravitational field caused by
iFpZZG2Kguk-00191-00052097-00052417 mass and so forth a key concept of
iFpZZG2Kguk-00192-00052419-00052579 inertial frames is the method for
iFpZZG2Kguk-00193-00052580-00052859 identifying them for practical purposes
iFpZZG2Kguk-00194-00052860-00053041 reference frames that do not accelerate
iFpZZG2Kguk-00195-00053042-00053228 with respect to distant stars an
iFpZZG2Kguk-00196-00053229-00053432 extremely distant point are regarded as
iFpZZG2Kguk-00197-00053433-00053638 good approximations to inertial frames
iFpZZG2Kguk-00198-00053639-00053929 non inertial reference frames accelerate
iFpZZG2Kguk-00199-00053930-00054110 in relation to an existing inertial
iFpZZG2Kguk-00200-00054111-00054379 frame they form the basis for Einstein's
iFpZZG2Kguk-00201-00054380-00054602 relativity due to the relative motion
iFpZZG2Kguk-00202-00054603-00054803 particles in the non inertial frame
iFpZZG2Kguk-00203-00054804-00054995 appear to move in ways not explained by
iFpZZG2Kguk-00204-00054996-00055175 forces from existing fields in the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00205-00055176-00055427 reference frame hence it appears that
iFpZZG2Kguk-00206-00055428-00055577 there are other forces that enter the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00207-00055578-00055769 equations of motion solely as a result
iFpZZG2Kguk-00208-00055770-00055997 of the relative acceleration these
iFpZZG2Kguk-00209-00055998-00056177 forces are referred to as fictitious
iFpZZG2Kguk-00210-00056178-00056485 forces inertia forces or pseudo forces
iFpZZG2Kguk-00211-00056486-00056786 consider two reference frames SNS
iFpZZG2Kguk-00212-00056787-00056966 for observers in each of the reference
iFpZZG2Kguk-00213-00056966-00057128 frames an event has space-time
iFpZZG2Kguk-00214-00057129-00057452 coordinates of X Y Z T in frame s and X
iFpZZG2Kguk-00215-00057453-00057848 Y Z T in frame s assuming time is
iFpZZG2Kguk-00216-00057849-00057971 measured the same in all reference
iFpZZG2Kguk-00217-00057972-00058745 frames and if we require X topic X when
iFpZZG2Kguk-00218-00058746-00059357 T 0 then the relation between the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00219-00059358-00059558 space-time coordinates of the same event
iFpZZG2Kguk-00220-00059559-00059762 observed from the reference frames s and
iFpZZG2Kguk-00221-00059763-00059915 s which are moving at a relative
iFpZZG2Kguk-00222-00059916-00060286 velocity of U in the X Direction is x
iFpZZG2Kguk-00223-00060287-00061097 equals x minus u t display style x
iFpZZG2Kguk-00224-00061098-00061769 equals x or y equals y displaced i y
iFpZZG2Kguk-00225-00061770-00062444 equals y z equals said display style z
iFpZZG2Kguk-00226-00062445-00063125 equals Z T equals T display style T
iFpZZG2Kguk-00227-00063126-00063476 equals T this set of formulas defines a
iFpZZG2Kguk-00228-00063477-00063629 group transformation known as the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00229-00063629-00063839 Galilean transformation informally the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00230-00063840-00064094 Galilean transform this group is a
iFpZZG2Kguk-00231-00064095-00064291 limiting case of the Poincare group used
iFpZZG2Kguk-00232-00064292-00064567 in special relativity the limiting case
iFpZZG2Kguk-00233-00064569-00064757 applies when the velocity U is very
iFpZZG2Kguk-00234-00064758-00064996 small compared to C the speed of light
iFpZZG2Kguk-00235-00064997-00065258 the transformations have the following
iFpZZG2Kguk-00236-00065259-00065624 consequences V equals V minus u the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00237-00065625-00065795 velocity V of a particle from the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00238-00065796-00066020 perspective of s is slower by u than its
iFpZZG2Kguk-00239-00066021-00066277 velocity V from the perspective of s a
iFpZZG2Kguk-00240-00066278-00066491 equals that the acceleration of a
iFpZZG2Kguk-00241-00066492-00066674 particle is the same in any inertial
iFpZZG2Kguk-00242-00066675-00067007 reference frame F equals F the force on
iFpZZG2Kguk-00243-00067008-00067202 a particle is the same in any inertial
iFpZZG2Kguk-00244-00067203-00067469 reference frame the speed of light is
iFpZZG2Kguk-00245-00067470-00067625 not a constant in classical mechanics
iFpZZG2Kguk-00246-00067626-00067856 nor does the special position given to
iFpZZG2Kguk-00247-00067857-00068012 the speed of light in relativistic
iFpZZG2Kguk-00248-00068013-00068162 mechanics have a counterpart in
iFpZZG2Kguk-00249-00068163-00068384 classical mechanics for some problems it
iFpZZG2Kguk-00250-00068385-00068510 is convenient to use rotating
iFpZZG2Kguk-00251-00068511-00068831 coordinates reference frames thereby one
iFpZZG2Kguk-00252-00068832-00068954 can either keep a mapping to a
iFpZZG2Kguk-00253-00068955-00069161 convenient inertial frame or introduce
iFpZZG2Kguk-00254-00069162-00069329 additionally a fictitious centrifugal
iFpZZG2Kguk-00255-00069330-00069981 force and Coriolis force
iFpZZG2Kguk-00256-00069982-00070653 topic forces Newton's second law Newton
iFpZZG2Kguk-00257-00070654-00070836 was the first to mathematically Express
iFpZZG2Kguk-00258-00070837-00071004 the relationship between force and
iFpZZG2Kguk-00259-00071005-00071271 momentum some physicists interpret
iFpZZG2Kguk-00260-00071272-00071430 Newton's second law of motion as a
iFpZZG2Kguk-00261-00071431-00071601 definition of force and mass while
iFpZZG2Kguk-00262-00071602-00071721 others consider it a fundamental
iFpZZG2Kguk-00263-00071722-00071990 postulate a law of nature either
iFpZZG2Kguk-00264-00071991-00072222 interpretation has the same mathematical
iFpZZG2Kguk-00265-00072223-00072398 consequences historically known as
iFpZZG2Kguk-00266-00072399-00073424 Newton's second law F equals D P D T
iFpZZG2Kguk-00267-00073425-00074409 equals D em V D T display style math bf
iFpZZG2Kguk-00268-00074410-00074781 F equals mathram D math BFP over mathram
iFpZZG2Kguk-00269-00074782-00075159 dt equals mass from d m math BF v over
iFpZZG2Kguk-00270-00075160-00075507 mathram DT the quantity M V is called
iFpZZG2Kguk-00271-00075508-00075783 the canonical momentum the net force on
iFpZZG2Kguk-00272-00075784-00075969 a particle is thus equal to the rate of
iFpZZG2Kguk-00273-00075970-00076104 change of the momentum of the particle
iFpZZG2Kguk-00274-00076105-00076371 with time since the definition of
iFpZZG2Kguk-00275-00076372-00076671 acceleration is equals DV DT the second
iFpZZG2Kguk-00276-00076672-00076851 law can be written in the simplified and
iFpZZG2Kguk-00277-00076852-00076950 more familiar form
iFpZZG2Kguk-00278-00076951-00077727 if equals M a display style math BF F
iFpZZG2Kguk-00279-00077728-00078108 equals M math BF up so long as the force
iFpZZG2Kguk-00280-00078109-00078318 acting on a particle is known Newton's
iFpZZG2Kguk-00281-00078319-00078510 second law is sufficient to describe the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00282-00078511-00078729 motion of a particle once independent
iFpZZG2Kguk-00283-00078730-00078927 relations for each force acting on a
iFpZZG2Kguk-00284-00078928-00079092 particle are available they can be
iFpZZG2Kguk-00285-00079093-00079284 substituted into Newton's second law to
iFpZZG2Kguk-00286-00079285-00079497 obtain an ordinary differential equation
iFpZZG2Kguk-00287-00079498-00079650 which is called the equation of motion
iFpZZG2Kguk-00288-00079651-00079977 as an example assume that friction is
iFpZZG2Kguk-00289-00079978-00080112 the only force acting on the particle
iFpZZG2Kguk-00290-00080113-00080280 and that it may be modelled as a
iFpZZG2Kguk-00291-00080281-00080469 function of the velocity of the particle
iFpZZG2Kguk-00292-00080470-00081386 for example if R equals minus lambda V
iFpZZG2Kguk-00293-00081387-00081590 display style math be
iFpZZG2Kguk-00294-00081591-00081872 f underscore room r equals lambda math
iFpZZG2Kguk-00295-00081873-00082205 bfv where lambda is a positive constant
iFpZZG2Kguk-00296-00082206-00082415 the negative sign states that the force
iFpZZG2Kguk-00297-00082416-00082582 is opposite the sense of the velocity
iFpZZG2Kguk-00298-00082583-00082981 then the equation of motion is minus
iFpZZG2Kguk-00299-00082982-00084436 lambda V equals M a equals M D V D T
iFpZZG2Kguk-00300-00084437-00084791 display style and our math bf V equals M
iFpZZG2Kguk-00301-00084792-00085145 math bf I equals M mathram D math be FV
iFpZZG2Kguk-00302-00085146-00085532 / mathram DT this can be integrated to
iFpZZG2Kguk-00303-00085533-00086824 obtain V equals V 0 e minus lambda T M
iFpZZG2Kguk-00304-00086825-00087193 display style math BF v equals math BF v
iFpZZG2Kguk-00305-00087194-00087565 underscore 0 e caret frac lambda t m
iFpZZG2Kguk-00306-00087566-00087929 where v 0 is the initial velocity this
iFpZZG2Kguk-00307-00087930-00088106 means that the velocity of this particle
iFpZZG2Kguk-00308-00088107-00088322 decays exponentially to 0 as time
iFpZZG2Kguk-00309-00088323-00088607 progresses in this case an equivalent
iFpZZG2Kguk-00310-00088608-00088787 viewpoint is that the kinetic energy of
iFpZZG2Kguk-00311-00088788-00088967 the particle is absorbed by friction
iFpZZG2Kguk-00312-00088968-00089132 which converts it to heat energy in
iFpZZG2Kguk-00313-00089133-00089282 accordance with the conservation of
iFpZZG2Kguk-00314-00089283-00089464 energy and the particle is slowing down
iFpZZG2Kguk-00315-00089465-00089678 this expression can be further
iFpZZG2Kguk-00316-00089679-00089882 integrated to obtain the position R of
iFpZZG2Kguk-00317-00089883-00090100 the particle as a function of time
iFpZZG2Kguk-00318-00090101-00090299 important forces include the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00319-00090300-00090482 gravitational force in the Lorentz force
iFpZZG2Kguk-00320-00090483-00090743 for electromagnetism in addition
iFpZZG2Kguk-00321-00090744-00090956 Newton's third law can sometimes be used
iFpZZG2Kguk-00322-00090957-00091112 to deduce the forces acting on a
iFpZZG2Kguk-00323-00091113-00091313 particle if it is known that particle a
iFpZZG2Kguk-00324-00091314-00091535 exerts a force F on another particle B
iFpZZG2Kguk-00325-00091536-00091748 it follows that B must exert an equal
iFpZZG2Kguk-00326-00091749-00091991 and opposite reaction force minus F on a
iFpZZG2Kguk-00327-00091992-00092150 the strong form of Newton's third law
iFpZZG2Kguk-00328-00092151-00092372 requires that F and minus F act along
iFpZZG2Kguk-00329-00092373-00092558 the line connecting a and B while the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00330-00092559-00092822 weak form does not illustrations of the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00331-00092823-00092987 weak form of Newton's third law are
iFpZZG2Kguk-00332-00092988-00093800 often found for magnetic forces topic
iFpZZG2Kguk-00333-00093801-00094319 energy if a constant force F is applied
iFpZZG2Kguk-00334-00094320-00094526 to a particle that makes a displacement
iFpZZG2Kguk-00335-00094527-00094748 Delta R the work done by the force is
iFpZZG2Kguk-00336-00094749-00094919 defined as the scalar product of the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00337-00094920-00095362 force and displacement vectors W equals
iFpZZG2Kguk-00338-00095363-00096060 F Delta ah display style W equals math
iFpZZG2Kguk-00339-00096061-00096503 BFF C do T Delta math bf are more
iFpZZG2Kguk-00340-00096504-00096674 generally if the force ferries is a
iFpZZG2Kguk-00341-00096675-00096842 function of position as the particle
iFpZZG2Kguk-00342-00096843-00097103 moves from r1 to r2 along a path C the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00343-00097104-00097286 work done on the particle is given by
iFpZZG2Kguk-00344-00097287-00098335 the line integral W equals C if I D
iFpZZG2Kguk-00345-00098336-00098669 display style W equals in underscore C
iFpZZG2Kguk-00346-00098670-00099078 math PFF math bfr see do T mathram D
iFpZZG2Kguk-00347-00099079-00099390 math be F R if the work done in moving
iFpZZG2Kguk-00348-00099391-00099641 the particle from r1 to r2 is the same
iFpZZG2Kguk-00349-00099642-00099842 no matter what path is taken the force
iFpZZG2Kguk-00350-00099843-00100103 is said to be conservative gravity is a
iFpZZG2Kguk-00351-00100104-00100313 conservative force as is the force due
iFpZZG2Kguk-00352-00100314-00100505 to an idealized spring as given by
iFpZZG2Kguk-00353-00100506-00100763 Hookes law the force due to friction is
iFpZZG2Kguk-00354-00100764-00101087 non conservative the kinetic energy of a
iFpZZG2Kguk-00355-00101088-00101285 particle of mass M traveling at speed V
iFpZZG2Kguk-00356-00101286-00102454 is given by e K equals 1 to M V to
iFpZZG2Kguk-00357-00102455-00102726 displace tighly underscore math from k
iFpZZG2Kguk-00358-00102727-00103200 equals t frac 1/2 MV carat to for
iFpZZG2Kguk-00359-00103201-00103371 extended objects composed of many
iFpZZG2Kguk-00360-00103372-00103559 particles the kinetic energy of the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00361-00103560-00103725 composite body is the sum of the kinetic
iFpZZG2Kguk-00362-00103726-00104076 energies of the particles the work
iFpZZG2Kguk-00363-00104077-00104243 energy theorem states that for a
iFpZZG2Kguk-00364-00104244-00104453 particle of constant mass M the total
iFpZZG2Kguk-00365-00104454-00104657 work W done on the particle as it moves
iFpZZG2Kguk-00366-00104658-00104898 from position R 1 to R 2 is equal to the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00367-00104899-00105151 change in kinetic energy of the particle
iFpZZG2Kguk-00368-00105152-00106615 W equals Delta e K equals e K 2 minus e
iFpZZG2Kguk-00369-00106616-00107027 K 1 equals
iFpZZG2Kguk-00370-00107028-00108443 one two M V 2 2 minus V 1 2 display
iFpZZG2Kguk-00371-00108444-00108674 style W equals Delta e underscore
iFpZZG2Kguk-00372-00108675-00109001 mathram k equals e underscore mathram k2
iFpZZG2Kguk-00373-00109002-00109394 e underscore mathram k1 equals t frac 1
iFpZZG2Kguk-00374-00109395-00109708 2 m left the underscore 2 carrot 2 fee
iFpZZG2Kguk-00375-00109709-00109986 underscore one carrot 2 right
iFpZZG2Kguk-00376-00109988-00110225 conservative forces can be expressed as
iFpZZG2Kguk-00377-00110226-00110410 the gradient of a scalar function known
iFpZZG2Kguk-00378-00110411-00110788 as the potential energy in denoted ep if
iFpZZG2Kguk-00379-00110789-00111548 equals minus e P display style math PFF
iFpZZG2Kguk-00380-00111549-00111811 equals math bf nabla e underscore
iFpZZG2Kguk-00381-00111813-00112199 mathram P if all the forces acting on a
iFpZZG2Kguk-00382-00112200-00112408 particle are conservative and EP is the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00383-00112409-00112628 total potential energy which is defined
iFpZZG2Kguk-00384-00112629-00112786 as a work of involved forces to
iFpZZG2Kguk-00385-00112788-00112967 rearrange mutual positions of bodies
iFpZZG2Kguk-00386-00112968-00113144 obtained by summing the potential
iFpZZG2Kguk-00387-00113145-00113491 energies corresponding to each force if
iFpZZG2Kguk-00388-00113492-00114700 Delta ah equals minus e P Delta R equals
iFpZZG2Kguk-00389-00114701-00115430 minus Delta e P display style math be f
iFpZZG2Kguk-00390-00115431-00115832 FC do t delta math PF r equals math bf
iFpZZG2Kguk-00391-00115833-00116134 nabla e underscore mathram p SI do t
iFpZZG2Kguk-00392-00116135-00116393 delta math PF r equals Delta e
iFpZZG2Kguk-00393-00116394-00116729 underscore mathram P the decrease in the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00394-00116730-00116882 potential energy is equal to the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00395-00116883-00117210 increase in the kinetic energy minus
iFpZZG2Kguk-00396-00117211-00118753 Delta e P equals Delta e K Delta e k+ e
iFpZZG2Kguk-00397-00118754-00119381 p equals zero display style delta p
iFpZZG2Kguk-00398-00119382-00119624 underscore mathram P equals Delta e
iFpZZG2Kguk-00399-00119625-00119888 underscore mathram K right arrow Delta e
iFpZZG2Kguk-00400-00119889-00120188 underscore mathram k+ e underscore math
iFpZZG2Kguk-00401-00120189-00120409 from p equals zero
iFpZZG2Kguk-00402-00120410-00120628 this result is known as conservation of
iFpZZG2Kguk-00403-00120629-00120984 energy in states that the total energy e
iFpZZG2Kguk-00404-00120985-00121949 equals e k + e p display style some e
iFpZZG2Kguk-00405-00121950-00122207 equals e underscore mathram k+ e
iFpZZG2Kguk-00406-00122208-00122549 underscore mathram p is constant in time
iFpZZG2Kguk-00407-00122550-00122833 it is often useful because many commonly
iFpZZG2Kguk-00408-00122834-00123459 encountered forces are conservative
iFpZZG2Kguk-00409-00123460-00124121 topic beyond newton's laws classical
iFpZZG2Kguk-00410-00124122-00124291 mechanics also describes the more
iFpZZG2Kguk-00411-00124292-00124496 complex motions of extended non point
iFpZZG2Kguk-00412-00124497-00124753 like objects euler's laws provide
iFpZZG2Kguk-00413-00124754-00124970 extensions to newton's laws in this area
iFpZZG2Kguk-00414-00124971-00125209 the concepts of angular momentum rely on
iFpZZG2Kguk-00415-00125210-00125402 the same calculus used to describe
iFpZZG2Kguk-00416-00125403-00125645 one-dimensional motion the rocket
iFpZZG2Kguk-00417-00125646-00125819 equation extends the notion of rate of
iFpZZG2Kguk-00418-00125820-00125990 change of an object's momentum to
iFpZZG2Kguk-00419-00125991-00126215 include the effects of an object losing
iFpZZG2Kguk-00420-00126216-00126538 mass there are two important alternative
iFpZZG2Kguk-00421-00126539-00126729 formulations of classical mechanics
iFpZZG2Kguk-00422-00126730-00126961 Lagrangian mechanics and Hamiltonian
iFpZZG2Kguk-00423-00126963-00127196 mechanics these and other modern
iFpZZG2Kguk-00424-00127197-00127439 formulations usually bypass the concept
iFpZZG2Kguk-00425-00127440-00127718 of force instead referring to other
iFpZZG2Kguk-00426-00127719-00127964 physical quantities such as energy speed
iFpZZG2Kguk-00427-00127965-00128158 and momentum for describing mechanical
iFpZZG2Kguk-00428-00128159-00128453 systems in generalized coordinates the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00429-00128454-00128645 expressions given above for momentum and
iFpZZG2Kguk-00430-00128646-00128833 kinetic energy are only valid when there
iFpZZG2Kguk-00431-00128834-00129016 is no significant electromagnetic
iFpZZG2Kguk-00432-00129017-00129257 contribution in electromagnetism
iFpZZG2Kguk-00433-00129258-00129454 Newton's second law for current-carrying
iFpZZG2Kguk-00434-00129455-00129685 wires breaks down unless one includes
iFpZZG2Kguk-00435-00129686-00129893 the electromagnetic field contribution
iFpZZG2Kguk-00436-00129894-00130033 to the momentum of the system is
iFpZZG2Kguk-00437-00130034-00130234 expressed by the pointing vector divided
iFpZZG2Kguk-00438-00130235-00130465 by C 2 where C is the speed of light in
iFpZZG2Kguk-00439-00130466-00131629 free space topic limits of validity many
iFpZZG2Kguk-00440-00131630-00131810 branches of classical mechanics are
iFpZZG2Kguk-00441-00131811-00132008 simplifications or approximations of
iFpZZG2Kguk-00442-00132009-00132176 more accurate forms two of the most
iFpZZG2Kguk-00443-00132177-00132368 accurate being general relativity in
iFpZZG2Kguk-00444-00132369-00132595 relativistic statistical mechanics
iFpZZG2Kguk-00445-00132596-00132839 geometric optics is an approximation to
iFpZZG2Kguk-00446-00132840-00133025 the quantum theory of light and does not
iFpZZG2Kguk-00447-00133026-00133448 have a superior classical form when both
iFpZZG2Kguk-00448-00133449-00133574 quantum mechanics and classical
iFpZZG2Kguk-00449-00133575-00133797 mechanics cannot apply such as a
iFpZZG2Kguk-00450-00133798-00133953 the quantum level with many degrees of
iFpZZG2Kguk-00451-00133954-00134250 freedom quantum field theory QFT is of
iFpZZG2Kguk-00452-00134251-00134586 use qft deals with small distances and
iFpZZG2Kguk-00453-00134587-00134757 large speeds with many degrees of
iFpZZG2Kguk-00454-00134758-00134913 freedom as well as the possibility of
iFpZZG2Kguk-00455-00134914-00135060 any change in the number of particles
iFpZZG2Kguk-00456-00135061-00135348 throughout the interaction when treating
iFpZZG2Kguk-00457-00135349-00135479 large degrees of freedom at the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00458-00135480-00135711 macroscopic level statistical mechanics
iFpZZG2Kguk-00459-00135712-00135993 becomes useful statistical mechanics
iFpZZG2Kguk-00460-00135994-00136178 describes the behavior of large but
iFpZZG2Kguk-00461-00136179-00136362 countable numbers of particles in their
iFpZZG2Kguk-00462-00136363-00136490 interactions as a whole at the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00463-00136491-00136788 macroscopic level statistical mechanics
iFpZZG2Kguk-00464-00136789-00136989 is mainly used in thermodynamics for
iFpZZG2Kguk-00465-00136990-00137163 systems that lie outside the bounds of
iFpZZG2Kguk-00466-00137164-00137244 the assumptions of classical
iFpZZG2Kguk-00467-00137245-00137526 thermodynamics in the case of
iFpZZG2Kguk-00468-00137527-00137697 high-velocity objects approaching the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00469-00137698-00137889 speed of light classical mechanics is
iFpZZG2Kguk-00470-00137890-00138168 enhanced by special relativity in case
iFpZZG2Kguk-00471-00138169-00138381 that objects become extremely heavy ie
iFpZZG2Kguk-00472-00138382-00138554 their Schwarzschild radius is not
iFpZZG2Kguk-00473-00138555-00138752 negligibly small for a given application
iFpZZG2Kguk-00474-00138753-00138945 deviations from Newtonian mechanics
iFpZZG2Kguk-00475-00138946-00139161 become apparent and can be quantified by
iFpZZG2Kguk-00476-00139162-00139359 using the parameterised post-newtonian
iFpZZG2Kguk-00477-00139360-00139644 formalism in that case general
iFpZZG2Kguk-00478-00139645-00139977 relativity gr becomes applicable however
iFpZZG2Kguk-00479-00139978-00140172 until now there is no theory of quantum
iFpZZG2Kguk-00480-00140173-00140478 gravity unifying gr and QFT in the sense
iFpZZG2Kguk-00481-00140479-00140631 that it could be used when objects
iFpZZG2Kguk-00482-00140632-00141328 become extremely small and heavy for v
iFpZZG2Kguk-00483-00141329-00141645 topic the Newtonian approximation to
iFpZZG2Kguk-00484-00141646-00142209 special relativity in special relativity
iFpZZG2Kguk-00485-00142210-00142591 the momentum of a particle is given by P
iFpZZG2Kguk-00486-00142592-00143925 equals M v1 minus v2 C to display style
iFpZZG2Kguk-00487-00143926-00143985 math
iFpZZG2Kguk-00488-00143986-00144369 f P equals frack M math p FV s q RT
iFpZZG2Kguk-00489-00144370-00144759 1 v carrot to see carrot 2 where m is
iFpZZG2Kguk-00490-00144760-00145008 the particles rest mass V its velocity V
iFpZZG2Kguk-00491-00145009-00145200 is the modulus of V and C is the speed
iFpZZG2Kguk-00492-00145201-00145541 of light if V is very small compared to
iFpZZG2Kguk-00493-00145542-00146072 C V 2 C 2 is approximately zero and so P
iFpZZG2Kguk-00494-00146073-00146640 approximately equals M V display style
iFpZZG2Kguk-00495-00146641-00147066 math BFP approximate p FV thus the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00496-00147067-00147300 Newtonian equation P equals MV is an
iFpZZG2Kguk-00497-00147301-00147447 approximation of the relativistic
iFpZZG2Kguk-00498-00147448-00147633 equation for bodies moving with low
iFpZZG2Kguk-00499-00147634-00147841 speeds compared to the speed of light
iFpZZG2Kguk-00500-00147842-00148149 for example the relativistic cyclotron
iFpZZG2Kguk-00501-00148150-00148383 frequency of a cyclotron gyrotron or
iFpZZG2Kguk-00502-00148384-00148739 high voltage magnetron is given by if
iFpZZG2Kguk-00503-00148740-00150203 equals if C M 0 M 0 plus T C to
iFpZZG2Kguk-00504-00150204-00150465 displaced I'll f equals F underscore
iFpZZG2Kguk-00505-00150466-00150740 mathram C frac M underscore 0 m
iFpZZG2Kguk-00506-00150741-00151170 underscore 0 plus T C carrot 2 where FC
iFpZZG2Kguk-00507-00151171-00151347 is the classical frequency of an
iFpZZG2Kguk-00508-00151348-00151551 electron or other charged particle with
iFpZZG2Kguk-00509-00151552-00151782 kinetic energy T and rest mass M 0
iFpZZG2Kguk-00510-00151783-00152054 circling in a magnetic field the rest
iFpZZG2Kguk-00511-00152055-00152424 mass of an electron is 511 keV so the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00512-00152425-00152634 frequency correction is 1% for a
iFpZZG2Kguk-00513-00152635-00152925 magnetic vacuum tube with a 5.1 one kilo
iFpZZG2Kguk-00514-00152926-00153102 volts direct current accelerating
iFpZZG2Kguk-00515-00153103-00153813 voltage topic the classical
iFpZZG2Kguk-00516-00153814-00154383 approximation to quantum mechanics the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00517-00154384-00154563 Ray approximation of classical mechanics
iFpZZG2Kguk-00518-00154564-00154740 breaks down when the de Broglie
iFpZZG2Kguk-00519-00154741-00154908 wavelength is not much smaller than
iFpZZG2Kguk-00520-00154909-00155163 other dimensions of the system for non
iFpZZG2Kguk-00521-00155164-00155373 relativistic particles this wavelength
iFpZZG2Kguk-00522-00155374-00156096 is lambda equals H P display style
iFpZZG2Kguk-00523-00156097-00156438 lambda equals phrack HP where H is
iFpZZG2Kguk-00524-00156439-00156683 Planck's constant and P is the momentum
iFpZZG2Kguk-00525-00156684-00156957 again this happens with electrons before
iFpZZG2Kguk-00526-00156958-00157212 it happens with heavier particles for
iFpZZG2Kguk-00527-00157213-00157380 example the electrons use
iFpZZG2Kguk-00528-00157381-00157668 Clinton Davisson and Lester DOMA in 1927
iFpZZG2Kguk-00529-00157669-00157950 accelerated by 54 volts had a wavelength
iFpZZG2Kguk-00530-00157951-00158247 of 0.167 nanometers which was long
iFpZZG2Kguk-00531-00158248-00158427 enough to exhibit a single diffraction
iFpZZG2Kguk-00532-00158428-00158604 sidelobe when reflecting from the face
iFpZZG2Kguk-00533-00158605-00158787 of a nickel crystal with atomic spacing
iFpZZG2Kguk-00534-00158788-00159162 of 0.2 1 5 nanometers with a larger
iFpZZG2Kguk-00535-00159163-00159255 vacuum chamber
iFpZZG2Kguk-00536-00159256-00159411 it would seem relatively easy to
iFpZZG2Kguk-00537-00159412-00159579 increase the angular resolution from
iFpZZG2Kguk-00538-00159580-00159780 around a Radian to a milliradian and see
iFpZZG2Kguk-00539-00159781-00159945 quantum diffraction from the periodic
iFpZZG2Kguk-00540-00159946-00160146 patterns of integrated circuit computer
iFpZZG2Kguk-00541-00160147-00160434 memory more practical examples of the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00542-00160435-00160614 failure of classical mechanics on an
iFpZZG2Kguk-00543-00160615-00160785 engineering scale are conduction by
iFpZZG2Kguk-00544-00160786-00160974 quantum tunneling in tunnel diodes and
iFpZZG2Kguk-00545-00160975-00161145 very narrow transistor gates in
iFpZZG2Kguk-00546-00161146-00161463 integrated circuits classical mechanics
iFpZZG2Kguk-00547-00161464-00161640 is the same extreme high frequency
iFpZZG2Kguk-00548-00161641-00161838 approximation as geometric optics
iFpZZG2Kguk-00549-00161839-00162069 it is more often accurate because it
iFpZZG2Kguk-00550-00162070-00162264 describes particles and bodies with rest
iFpZZG2Kguk-00551-00162265-00162504 mass these have more momentum and
iFpZZG2Kguk-00552-00162505-00162699 therefore shorter de Broglie wavelengths
iFpZZG2Kguk-00553-00162700-00162891 than massless particles such as light
iFpZZG2Kguk-00554-00162892-00163632 with the same kinetic energies topic
iFpZZG2Kguk-00555-00163633-00164193 history the study of the motion of
iFpZZG2Kguk-00556-00164194-00164367 bodies is an ancient one making
iFpZZG2Kguk-00557-00164368-00164547 classical mechanics one of the oldest
iFpZZG2Kguk-00558-00164548-00164691 and largest subjects in science
iFpZZG2Kguk-00559-00164692-00165012 engineering and technology some Greek
iFpZZG2Kguk-00560-00165013-00165222 philosophers of antiquity among Amaris
iFpZZG2Kguk-00561-00165223-00165459 tatl founder of Aristotelian physics may
iFpZZG2Kguk-00562-00165460-00165639 have been the first to maintain the idea
iFpZZG2Kguk-00563-00165640-00165885 that everything happens for a reason and
iFpZZG2Kguk-00564-00165886-00166131 that theoretical principles can assist
iFpZZG2Kguk-00565-00166132-00166356 in the understanding of nature while to
iFpZZG2Kguk-00566-00166357-00166536 a modern reader many of these preserved
iFpZZG2Kguk-00567-00166537-00166725 ideas come forth is eminently reasonable
iFpZZG2Kguk-00568-00166726-00166929 there is a conspicuous lack of both
iFpZZG2Kguk-00569-00166930-00167094 mathematical theory and controlled
iFpZZG2Kguk-00570-00167095-00167352 experiment as we know it these later
iFpZZG2Kguk-00571-00167353-00167547 became decisive factors in forming
iFpZZG2Kguk-00572-00167548-00167661 modern science and their early
iFpZZG2Kguk-00573-00167662-00167823 application came to be known as
iFpZZG2Kguk-00574-00167824-00168132 classical mechanics in his element a
iFpZZG2Kguk-00575-00168133-00168297 super demonstration in pondering
iFpZZG2Kguk-00576-00168298-00168489 medieval mathematician Jordan astir
iFpZZG2Kguk-00577-00168490-00168651 Namur introduced the concept of
iFpZZG2Kguk-00578-00168652-00168897 positional gravity and the use of
iFpZZG2Kguk-00579-00168898-00169206 component forces the first published
iFpZZG2Kguk-00580-00169207-00169392 causal explanation of the motions of
iFpZZG2Kguk-00581-00169393-00169596 planets was johannes kepler's astra no
iFpZZG2Kguk-00582-00169597-00169971 mere Nova published in 1609 he concluded
iFpZZG2Kguk-00583-00169972-00170193 based on Tycho Brahe his observations on
iFpZZG2Kguk-00584-00170194-00170358 the orbit of Mars that the planets
iFpZZG2Kguk-00585-00170359-00170607 orbits were ellipses this break with
iFpZZG2Kguk-00586-00170608-00170751 ancient thought was happening a
iFpZZG2Kguk-00587-00170752-00170961 the same time that Galileo was proposing
iFpZZG2Kguk-00588-00170962-00171153 abstract mathematical laws for the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00589-00171154-00171453 motion of objects he may or may not have
iFpZZG2Kguk-00590-00171454-00171618 performed the famous experiment of
iFpZZG2Kguk-00591-00171619-00171777 dropping two cannonballs of different
iFpZZG2Kguk-00592-00171778-00171963 weights from the Tower of Pisa showing
iFpZZG2Kguk-00593-00171964-00172095 that they both hit the ground at the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00594-00172096-00172362 same time the reality of that particular
iFpZZG2Kguk-00595-00172363-00172599 experiment is disputed but he did carry
iFpZZG2Kguk-00596-00172600-00172791 out quantitative experiments by rolling
iFpZZG2Kguk-00597-00172792-00173061 balls on an inclined plane his theory of
iFpZZG2Kguk-00598-00173062-00173268 accelerated motion was derived from the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00599-00173269-00173466 results of such experiments and forms a
iFpZZG2Kguk-00600-00173467-00173684 cornerstone of classical mechanics
iFpZZG2Kguk-00601-00173685-00173922 Newton founded his principles of natural
iFpZZG2Kguk-00602-00173923-00174150 philosophy on three proposed laws of
iFpZZG2Kguk-00603-00174151-00174300 motion the law of inertia
iFpZZG2Kguk-00604-00174301-00174525 his second law of acceleration mentioned
iFpZZG2Kguk-00605-00174526-00174675 above and the law of action and reaction
iFpZZG2Kguk-00606-00174676-00174876 and hence laid the foundations for
iFpZZG2Kguk-00607-00174877-00175176 classical mechanics both Newton's second
iFpZZG2Kguk-00608-00175177-00175320 and third laws were given the proper
iFpZZG2Kguk-00609-00175321-00175539 scientific and mathematical treatment in
iFpZZG2Kguk-00610-00175540-00175704 Newton's philosophy I naturalist
iFpZZG2Kguk-00611-00175705-00175944 principia mathematica here they are
iFpZZG2Kguk-00612-00175945-00176109 distinguished from earlier attempts at
iFpZZG2Kguk-00613-00176110-00176295 explaining similar phenomena which were
iFpZZG2Kguk-00614-00176296-00176499 either incomplete incorrect or given
iFpZZG2Kguk-00615-00176500-00176693 little accurate mathematical expression
iFpZZG2Kguk-00616-00176694-00176973 Newton also enunciated the principles of
iFpZZG2Kguk-00617-00176974-00177123 conservation of momentum and angular
iFpZZG2Kguk-00618-00177124-00177432 momentum in mechanic's Newton was also
iFpZZG2Kguk-00619-00177433-00177609 the first to provide the first correct
iFpZZG2Kguk-00620-00177610-00177819 scientific and mathematical formulation
iFpZZG2Kguk-00621-00177820-00177963 of gravity in Newton's law of universal
iFpZZG2Kguk-00622-00177964-00178284 gravitation the combination of Newton's
iFpZZG2Kguk-00623-00178285-00178488 laws of motion and gravitation provide
iFpZZG2Kguk-00624-00178489-00178602 the fullest and most accurate
iFpZZG2Kguk-00625-00178603-00178893 description of classical mechanics he
iFpZZG2Kguk-00626-00178894-00179058 demonstrated that these laws apply to
iFpZZG2Kguk-00627-00179059-00179274 everyday objects as well as to celestial
iFpZZG2Kguk-00628-00179275-00179559 objects in particular he obtained a
iFpZZG2Kguk-00629-00179560-00179754 theoretical explanation of Kepler's laws
iFpZZG2Kguk-00630-00179755-00180039 of motion of the planets Newton had
iFpZZG2Kguk-00631-00180040-00180222 previously invented the calculus of
iFpZZG2Kguk-00632-00180223-00180426 mathematics and used it to perform the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00633-00180427-00180669 mathematical calculations for
iFpZZG2Kguk-00634-00180670-00180756 acceptability
iFpZZG2Kguk-00635-00180757-00180927 his book the prince appear was
iFpZZG2Kguk-00636-00180928-00181107 formulated entirely in terms of the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00637-00181108-00181308 long-established geometric methods which
iFpZZG2Kguk-00638-00181309-00181499 were soon eclipsed by his calculus
iFpZZG2Kguk-00639-00181500-00181764 however it was Leibniz who developed the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00640-00181765-00181914 notation of the derivative and integral
iFpZZG2Kguk-00641-00181915-00182247 preferred today Newton and most of his
iFpZZG2Kguk-00642-00182248-00182400 contemporaries with the notable
iFpZZG2Kguk-00643-00182401-00182565 exception of Huygens worked on the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00644-00182566-00182724 assumption that classical mechanics
iFpZZG2Kguk-00645-00182725-00182913 would be able to explain all phenomena
iFpZZG2Kguk-00646-00182914-00183126 including light in the form of geometric
iFpZZG2Kguk-00647-00183127-00183384 objects even when discovering the so
iFpZZG2Kguk-00648-00183385-00183537 called Newton's rings a wave
iFpZZG2Kguk-00649-00183538-00183720 interference phenomenon he maintained
iFpZZG2Kguk-00650-00183721-00183940 his own corpuscular theory of light
iFpZZG2Kguk-00651-00183941-00184086 after Newton
iFpZZG2Kguk-00652-00184087-00184293 classical mechanics became a principle
iFpZZG2Kguk-00653-00184294-00184479 field of study in mathematics as well as
iFpZZG2Kguk-00654-00184480-00184734 physics several reformulations
iFpZZG2Kguk-00655-00184735-00184953 progressively allowed finding solutions
iFpZZG2Kguk-00656-00184954-00185223 to a far greater number of problems the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00657-00185224-00185502 first notable reformulation was in 1788
iFpZZG2Kguk-00658-00185503-00185808 by Joseph Louis Lagrange Lagrangian
iFpZZG2Kguk-00659-00185809-00186012 mechanics was in turn reformulated in
iFpZZG2Kguk-00660-00186013-00186384 1833 by William Rowan Hamilton some
iFpZZG2Kguk-00661-00186385-00186554 difficulties were discovered in the late
iFpZZG2Kguk-00662-00186555-00186783 19th century that could only be resolved
iFpZZG2Kguk-00663-00186784-00187026 by more modern physics some of these
iFpZZG2Kguk-00664-00187027-00187229 difficulties related to compatibility
iFpZZG2Kguk-00665-00187230-00187413 with electromagnetic theory and the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00666-00187414-00187679 famous Michelson Morley experiment the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00667-00187680-00187863 resolution of these problems led to the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00668-00187864-00188088 special theory of relativity often still
iFpZZG2Kguk-00669-00188089-00188241 considered a part of classical mechanics
iFpZZG2Kguk-00670-00188242-00188550 a second set of difficulties were
iFpZZG2Kguk-00671-00188551-00188808 related to thermodynamics when combined
iFpZZG2Kguk-00672-00188809-00189036 with thermodynamics classical mechanics
iFpZZG2Kguk-00673-00189037-00189237 leads to the Gibbs paradox of classical
iFpZZG2Kguk-00674-00189238-00189444 statistical mechanics in which entropy
iFpZZG2Kguk-00675-00189445-00189716 is not a well-defined quantity blackbody
iFpZZG2Kguk-00676-00189717-00189921 radiation was not explained without the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00677-00189922-00190158 introduction of quanta as experiments
iFpZZG2Kguk-00678-00190159-00190335 reached the atomic level classical
iFpZZG2Kguk-00679-00190336-00190482 mechanics failed to explain even
iFpZZG2Kguk-00680-00190483-00190710 approximately such basic things as the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00681-00190711-00190916 energy levels and sizes of atoms in the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00682-00190917-00191160 photoelectric effect the effort at
iFpZZG2Kguk-00683-00191161-00191322 resolving these problems led to the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00684-00191323-00191616 development of quantum mechanics since
iFpZZG2Kguk-00685-00191617-00191829 the end of the 20th century classical
iFpZZG2Kguk-00686-00191830-00192018 mechanics in physics has no longer been
iFpZZG2Kguk-00687-00192019-00192300 an independent theory instead classical
iFpZZG2Kguk-00688-00192301-00192438 mechanics is now considered an
iFpZZG2Kguk-00689-00192439-00192576 approximate theory to the more general
iFpZZG2Kguk-00690-00192577-00192852 quantum mechanics emphasis has shifted
iFpZZG2Kguk-00691-00192853-00193074 to understanding the fundamental forces
iFpZZG2Kguk-00692-00193075-00193254 of nature as in the standard model and
iFpZZG2Kguk-00693-00193255-00193410 it's more modern extensions into a
iFpZZG2Kguk-00694-00193411-00193689 unified theory of everything classical
iFpZZG2Kguk-00695-00193690-00193866 mechanics is a theory useful for the
iFpZZG2Kguk-00696-00193867-00194034 study of the motion of non quantum
iFpZZG2Kguk-00697-00194035-00194244 mechanical low-energy particles in weak
iFpZZG2Kguk-00698-00194245-00194523 gravitational fields also it has been
iFpZZG2Kguk-00699-00194524-00194739 extended into the complex domain where
iFpZZG2Kguk-00700-00194740-00194934 complex classical mechanics exhibits
iFpZZG2Kguk-00701-00194935-00195108 behaviour very similar to quantum
iFpZZG2Kguk-00702-00195109-00196251 mechanics topic branches classical
iFpZZG2Kguk-00703-00196252-00196446 mechanics was traditionally divided into
iFpZZG2Kguk-00704-00196447-00196773 three main branches statics the study of
iFpZZG2Kguk-00705-00196774-00197036 equilibrium in its relation to forces
iFpZZG2Kguk-00706-00197037-00197274 dynamics the study of motion in its
iFpZZG2Kguk-00707-00197275-00197484 relation to forces
iFpZZG2Kguk-00708-00197485-00197697 kinematics dealing with the implications
iFpZZG2Kguk-00709-00197698-00197874 of observed motions without regard for
iFpZZG2Kguk-00710-00197875-00198063 circumstances causing them another
iFpZZG2Kguk-00711-00198064-00198228 division is based on the choice of
iFpZZG2Kguk-00712-00198229-00198516 mathematical formalism Newtonian
iFpZZG2Kguk-00713-00198517-00198857 mechanics Lagrangian mechanics
iFpZZG2Kguk-00714-00198858-00199092 Hamiltonian mechanics alternatively a
iFpZZG2Kguk-00715-00199093-00199266 division can be made by region of
iFpZZG2Kguk-00716-00199267-00199611 application celestial mechanics relating
iFpZZG2Kguk-00717-00199612-00199809 to stars planets and other celestial
iFpZZG2Kguk-00718-00199810-00200151 bodies continuum mechanics for materials
iFpZZG2Kguk-00719-00200152-00200391 modeled as a continuum eg solids and
iFpZZG2Kguk-00720-00200392-00200472 fluids ie
iFpZZG2Kguk-00721-00200473-00200787 liquids and gases relativistic mechanics
iFpZZG2Kguk-00722-00200788-00200994 ie including the special and general
iFpZZG2Kguk-00723-00200995-00201213 theories of relativity for bodies whose
iFpZZG2Kguk-00724-00201214-00201467 speed is close to the speed of light
iFpZZG2Kguk-00725-00201468-00201705 statistical mechanics which provides a
iFpZZG2Kguk-00726-00201706-00201897 framework for relating the microscopic
iFpZZG2Kguk-00727-00201898-00202056 properties of individual atoms and
iFpZZG2Kguk-00728-00202057-00202248 molecules to the macroscopic or bulk
iFpZZG2Kguk-00729-00202249-00202937 thermodynamic properties of materials
iFpZZG2Kguk-00730-00202938-00203805 topic see also equals equals nodes
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iHrDxyMeC4Y-00086-00193867-00195169 foreign
iHrDxyMeC4Y-00087-00195170-00195553 number one music station
iI0lJUqg7P8-00000-00000000-00000202 thank you very much and I would just
iI0lJUqg7P8-00001-00000204-00000413 like to welcome all the participants and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00002-00000413-00000773 and the attendees to MHP end into this
iI0lJUqg7P8-00003-00000774-00000991 community panel discussion tonight the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00004-00000992-00001208 discussion is on collaborative care and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00005-00001209-00001412 mental health of people from migrant
iI0lJUqg7P8-00006-00001413-00001784 backgrounds we are very fortunate
iI0lJUqg7P8-00007-00001785-00002051 tonight to have four excellent speakers
iI0lJUqg7P8-00008-00002052-00002335 on the panel we have a first lead dr.
iI0lJUqg7P8-00009-00002336-00002579 Joanne Gardner Joanne's a GP with a
iI0lJUqg7P8-00010-00002580-00002752 special interest in refugee mental
iI0lJUqg7P8-00011-00002753-00002975 health she works as an adult refugee
iI0lJUqg7P8-00012-00002976-00003113 health fellow at the Royal Melbourne
iI0lJUqg7P8-00013-00003114-00003524 Hospital and also at Co health Joanne
iI0lJUqg7P8-00014-00003525-00003704 may I just ask you how did your interest
iI0lJUqg7P8-00015-00003704-00003875 in refugee mental health first come
iI0lJUqg7P8-00016-00003876-00004193 about ah thanks Michael I was lucky
iI0lJUqg7P8-00017-00004194-00004385 enough to see in his Island seeker in
iI0lJUqg7P8-00018-00004386-00004535 about nineteen ninety-five and I
iI0lJUqg7P8-00019-00004536-00004720 foolishly rang up his solicitor and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00020-00004721-00004936 asked if I could help and whereupon I
iI0lJUqg7P8-00021-00004937-00005113 started seeing many asylum seekers and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00022-00005114-00005384 my interest sprang from there right so
iI0lJUqg7P8-00023-00005385-00005656 the word spread well done and joining
iI0lJUqg7P8-00024-00005657-00005966 Joanne is Harry miners hurry is a
iI0lJUqg7P8-00025-00005967-00006158 well-known psychiatrist from Melbourne
iI0lJUqg7P8-00026-00006159-00006388 it's great to have you with us Harry hi
iI0lJUqg7P8-00027-00006389-00006631 Michael you're involved in a range of
iI0lJUqg7P8-00028-00006633-00006859 projects and organizations some of that
iI0lJUqg7P8-00029-00006861-00007052 involves international work and also
iI0lJUqg7P8-00030-00007053-00007334 work here is home and can you tell us a
iI0lJUqg7P8-00031-00007334-00007712 bit about this international work we are
iI0lJUqg7P8-00032-00007713-00008003 involved in in projects that are focused
iI0lJUqg7P8-00033-00008004-00008253 on developing mental health services in
iI0lJUqg7P8-00034-00008254-00008648 a number of countries in Asia our
iI0lJUqg7P8-00035-00008649-00008821 biggest projects are in Vietnam
iI0lJUqg7P8-00036-00008822-00009038 Indonesia and free lanka but we also
iI0lJUqg7P8-00037-00009039-00009260 work with some regional organizations
iI0lJUqg7P8-00038-00009261-00009760 like ASEAN and wh 0 and so on so most of
iI0lJUqg7P8-00039-00009761-00009935 our work there is working with
iI0lJUqg7P8-00040-00009936-00010156 colleagues in university departments are
iI0lJUqg7P8-00041-00010157-00010456 in service agencies and with ministries
iI0lJUqg7P8-00042-00010457-00010787 of Health and Social Affairs so you have
iI0lJUqg7P8-00043-00010788-00010970 a special interest in systems and mental
iI0lJUqg7P8-00044-00010971-00011239 health yeah very much so where our
iI0lJUqg7P8-00045-00011240-00011695 interest is precisely that how how can
iI0lJUqg7P8-00046-00011696-00011951 we actually build systems that actually
iI0lJUqg7P8-00047-00011952-00012248 work better for people who have a
iI0lJUqg7P8-00048-00012249-00012566 variety of needs great Harry thank you
iI0lJUqg7P8-00049-00012567-00012808 very much for joining us we also have
iI0lJUqg7P8-00050-00012809-00013049 leopard fat in letter thank you for
iI0lJUqg7P8-00051-00013050-00013177 joining us
iI0lJUqg7P8-00052-00013178-00013375 can you tell us a little bit about your
iI0lJUqg7P8-00053-00013376-00013782 work in the area of family violence and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00054-00013783-00014022 and strategies to prevent this
iI0lJUqg7P8-00055-00014024-00014347 particularly in relation to migrants and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00056-00014347-00014611 the Indian community in your work as a
iI0lJUqg7P8-00057-00014612-00014880 psychologist and a teacher sure I'd be
iI0lJUqg7P8-00058-00014881-00015082 happy to Michael hello everyone a
iI0lJUqg7P8-00059-00015083-00015409 pleasure to be here this evening well I
iI0lJUqg7P8-00060-00015410-00015676 have been a psychologist for quite a
iI0lJUqg7P8-00061-00015677-00015919 number of years and through that I
iI0lJUqg7P8-00062-00015919-00016188 started seeing several women who
iI0lJUqg7P8-00063-00016190-00016585 approached me on their own really to
iI0lJUqg7P8-00064-00016586-00016858 just talk to me you know they did not
iI0lJUqg7P8-00065-00016859-00017122 come and see me as a professional as
iI0lJUqg7P8-00066-00017123-00017278 such but they wanted to speak to
iI0lJUqg7P8-00067-00017279-00017596 somebody who was an Indian and who
iI0lJUqg7P8-00068-00017597-00017785 perhaps understood the cultural
iI0lJUqg7P8-00069-00017786-00018124 background and who could help them in
iI0lJUqg7P8-00070-00018125-00018447 any way and so my work started that way
iI0lJUqg7P8-00071-00018448-00018679 but since that so I do work as a
iI0lJUqg7P8-00072-00018680-00018877 voluntary psychologist within the Indian
iI0lJUqg7P8-00073-00018878-00019174 community but also I conduct research in
iI0lJUqg7P8-00074-00019175-00019324 the area of family violence across
iI0lJUqg7P8-00075-00019325-00019750 migrants as well as non migrants so I'm
iI0lJUqg7P8-00076-00019751-00020119 involved in a range of incidents if you
iI0lJUqg7P8-00077-00020120-00020406 like on a regular basis and at any given
iI0lJUqg7P8-00078-00020407-00020700 time I'm assisting at least four women
iI0lJUqg7P8-00079-00020701-00021196 concurrently so thank you yes so your
iI0lJUqg7P8-00080-00021197-00021337 expertise extends all the way from
iI0lJUqg7P8-00081-00021338-00021574 Deakin University in Victoria to
iI0lJUqg7P8-00082-00021575-00022012 facebook from the world wide web well a
iI0lJUqg7P8-00083-00022013-00022189 bit of that I would just say I think of
iI0lJUqg7P8-00084-00022190-00022356 a few people have contacted me through
iI0lJUqg7P8-00085-00022357-00022642 different means which I'll go through it
iI0lJUqg7P8-00086-00022643-00022837 through my presentation as to how women
iI0lJUqg7P8-00087-00022838-00023074 actually contact me thank you very much
iI0lJUqg7P8-00088-00023075-00023394 lesser I'm going to carry on and from
iI0lJUqg7P8-00089-00023395-00023622 where I started briefly I've interested
iI0lJUqg7P8-00090-00023623-00023902 introduced Joanne Gardner a GP from
iI0lJUqg7P8-00091-00023903-00024046 Melbourne with a special interest in
iI0lJUqg7P8-00092-00024047-00024408 migrant health harry- a psychiatrist
iI0lJUqg7P8-00093-00024409-00024739 from Melbourne with a special interest
iI0lJUqg7P8-00094-00024740-00025033 in systems and mental health and also
iI0lJUqg7P8-00095-00025034-00025297 with assisting and third world countries
iI0lJUqg7P8-00096-00025298-00025414 in delivering better mental health
iI0lJUqg7P8-00097-00025415-00025831 together systems and we also introduced
iI0lJUqg7P8-00098-00025832-00026094 latter second a psychologist who teaches
iI0lJUqg7P8-00099-00026095-00026398 at Deakin University in Victoria
iI0lJUqg7P8-00100-00026399-00026868 and who has a number of clients she
iI0lJUqg7P8-00101-00026869-00027268 follows from the margaret indian
iI0lJUqg7P8-00102-00027269-00027696 community with with problems and the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00103-00027697-00027862 last person I'm going to introduce new
iI0lJUqg7P8-00104-00027863-00028060 panels not is is Vivian verdict and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00105-00028061-00028507 Vivien is is a social worker and by
iI0lJUqg7P8-00106-00028508-00028960 training and and and she is presently
iI0lJUqg7P8-00107-00028961-00029940 and the is presently am working with the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00108-00029941-00030127 Queensland transcultural mental health
iI0lJUqg7P8-00109-00030127-00030418 center as she leads a statewide a
iI0lJUqg7P8-00110-00030419-00030592 consultation team to help improve the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00111-00030593-00030918 mental health care of em of Margaret
iI0lJUqg7P8-00112-00030919-00031218 clients Vivian what do you find is some
iI0lJUqg7P8-00113-00031219-00031429 of the biggest challenges you find and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00114-00031430-00031602 improving the mental health care of
iI0lJUqg7P8-00115-00031602-00032035 clients with other languages apart from
iI0lJUqg7P8-00116-00032036-00032326 English that's something some of the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00117-00032327-00032514 biggest issues that we certainly see our
iI0lJUqg7P8-00118-00032515-00032839 around stigma that there can be a lot of
iI0lJUqg7P8-00119-00032840-00033024 shame and stigma and having a mental
iI0lJUqg7P8-00120-00033025-00033324 illness but also to I think really
iI0lJUqg7P8-00121-00033325-00033529 importantly about how mental health
iI0lJUqg7P8-00122-00033530-00033733 services are responding to clients from
iI0lJUqg7P8-00123-00033734-00033949 migrant and Refugee backgrounds I think
iI0lJUqg7P8-00124-00033950-00034114 there are a lot that we have to learn
iI0lJUqg7P8-00125-00034115-00034446 and that we can certainly improve thanks
iI0lJUqg7P8-00126-00034447-00034645 very much Vivian that was very good you
iI0lJUqg7P8-00127-00034646-00034801 may need to just speak up a little bit
iI0lJUqg7P8-00128-00034802-00035026 or turn your volume up a little bit
iI0lJUqg7P8-00129-00035027-00035368 strings with you okay now I'll just go
iI0lJUqg7P8-00130-00035369-00035779 through a few ground rules and for
iI0lJUqg7P8-00131-00035780-00036286 tonight and of course we all need to be
iI0lJUqg7P8-00132-00036287-00036529 respectful to each other participants in
iI0lJUqg7P8-00133-00036530-00036748 panelists and behaviors if it were a
iI0lJUqg7P8-00134-00036749-00037329 face-to-face X activity and the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00135-00037330-00037599 attendees can post comments questions
iI0lJUqg7P8-00136-00037600-00038037 four panels in the general chat box and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00137-00038038-00038487 and the feedback from the from the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00138-00038488-00038848 attendees is important and finishing the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00139-00038849-00039385 short exit survey
iI0lJUqg7P8-00140-00039386-00039662 now the learning objectives and outcomes
iI0lJUqg7P8-00141-00039663-00040232 for today are threefold and firstly to
iI0lJUqg7P8-00142-00040233-00040361 raise awareness of the migrant
iI0lJUqg7P8-00143-00040362-00040529 experience and associated mental health
iI0lJUqg7P8-00144-00040530-00040736 risks particularly for women with young
iI0lJUqg7P8-00145-00040737-00041137 families and and really that pertains to
iI0lJUqg7P8-00146-00041138-00041420 the case study and the case study gives
iI0lJUqg7P8-00147-00041421-00041765 us lots of information that will help us
iI0lJUqg7P8-00148-00041766-00041977 in achieving this learning outcome
iI0lJUqg7P8-00149-00041978-00042215 secondly we need to identify the key
iI0lJUqg7P8-00150-00042216-00042380 principles of the featured disciplines
iI0lJUqg7P8-00151-00042381-00042571 approaching screening diagnosing and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00152-00042572-00042718 supporting the mental health of people
iI0lJUqg7P8-00153-00042719-00042920 from migrant backgrounds and this is
iI0lJUqg7P8-00154-00042921-00043162 achieved and through the presentations
iI0lJUqg7P8-00155-00043163-00043415 from our excellent panels and then
iI0lJUqg7P8-00156-00043416-00043696 thirdly in our interdisciplinary
iI0lJUqg7P8-00157-00043697-00043949 collaborative discussions afterwards
iI0lJUqg7P8-00158-00043950-00044190 question-and-answer with the panel and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00159-00044191-00044450 we will then explore tips and strategies
iI0lJUqg7P8-00160-00044451-00044657 wishing to disability collaboration
iI0lJUqg7P8-00161-00044658-00044821 among practitioners working with
iI0lJUqg7P8-00162-00044822-00044999 Margaret's experiencing mental health
iI0lJUqg7P8-00163-00045000-00045590 issues now without further ado we will
iI0lJUqg7P8-00164-00045591-00045992 move on to the GP perspective and Joanna
iI0lJUqg7P8-00165-00045993-00046271 would just like you to directly thanks
iI0lJUqg7P8-00166-00046272-00046517 very much Michael thanks everybody I
iI0lJUqg7P8-00167-00046518-00046892 suppose at this point here i am with
iI0lJUqg7P8-00168-00046893-00047240 rishika cuddling Anisha and Sean sitting
iI0lJUqg7P8-00169-00047241-00047552 in front of me and by this stage
iI0lJUqg7P8-00170-00047553-00047792 hopefully I have had some alarm bells
iI0lJUqg7P8-00171-00047793-00048089 starting to read and I'm thinking that
iI0lJUqg7P8-00172-00048090-00048182 this one isn't going to be
iI0lJUqg7P8-00173-00048183-00048473 straightforward and I'd better think
iI0lJUqg7P8-00174-00048474-00048712 pretty carefully and tune in to the Zen
iI0lJUqg7P8-00175-00048713-00048920 of the moment to try to work out what to
iI0lJUqg7P8-00176-00048921-00049252 do next and clearly receive his posture
iI0lJUqg7P8-00177-00049253-00049598 she looks very worried very intent and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00178-00049599-00049871 he's shown his attitude doesn't quite
iI0lJUqg7P8-00179-00049872-00050068 jell he seemed to be a little bit more
iI0lJUqg7P8-00180-00050069-00050330 worried about his passing his exams than
iI0lJUqg7P8-00181-00050331-00050642 his his baby and the crying is obviously
iI0lJUqg7P8-00182-00050643-00050902 annoying him a little bit so I'm
iI0lJUqg7P8-00183-00050903-00051226 thinking how shall I engage this pair
iI0lJUqg7P8-00184-00051227-00051482 and do my best so the first thing I
iI0lJUqg7P8-00185-00051483-00051819 would think is
iI0lJUqg7P8-00186-00051820-00052104 praise them for attending bringing a
iI0lJUqg7P8-00187-00052105-00052380 baby so promptly I would try to perhaps
iI0lJUqg7P8-00188-00052382-00052750 normalize the idea that being a young
iI0lJUqg7P8-00189-00052751-00052975 couple with a little baby on on their
iI0lJUqg7P8-00190-00052976-00053116 own without family support is very
iI0lJUqg7P8-00191-00053116-00053367 difficult and i would probably talk
iI0lJUqg7P8-00192-00053369-00053754 about say that I have met many couples
iI0lJUqg7P8-00193-00053755-00054097 in a similar situation and I admire them
iI0lJUqg7P8-00194-00054098-00054276 very much think they're very brave and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00195-00054277-00054579 that our practice our surgery is always
iI0lJUqg7P8-00196-00054580-00054757 keen to help them in however whatever
iI0lJUqg7P8-00197-00054758-00055242 way we can I would perhaps ask we shake
iI0lJUqg7P8-00198-00055244-00055534 her a little bit about how she's going
iI0lJUqg7P8-00199-00055535-00055666 to physical helps something fairly
iI0lJUqg7P8-00200-00055666-00055945 neutral and I would ask he's shown a
iI0lJUqg7P8-00201-00055946-00056107 little bit about how he's going as well
iI0lJUqg7P8-00202-00056108-00056512 to try to engage them both um then I
iI0lJUqg7P8-00203-00056513-00056657 would try to do a very thorough
iI0lJUqg7P8-00204-00056658-00057029 examination of the baby for reassurance
iI0lJUqg7P8-00205-00057030-00057238 starting at the top of the head working
iI0lJUqg7P8-00206-00057239-00057511 all the way down doing every bit making
iI0lJUqg7P8-00207-00057512-00057666 sure that they knew and it's
iI0lJUqg7P8-00208-00057667-00058078 particularly rishika that I was doing
iI0lJUqg7P8-00209-00058079-00058317 everything I could to make sure that the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00210-00058319-00058605 baby was okay and to particularly engage
iI0lJUqg7P8-00211-00058607-00058735 her and make her see that I was a
iI0lJUqg7P8-00212-00058736-00058992 trustworthy person by the means of the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00213-00058994-00059417 way I was managing her baby at least and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00214-00059419-00059807 then if possible one side sorted out why
iI0lJUqg7P8-00215-00059808-00060109 the little one has a fever I would try
iI0lJUqg7P8-00216-00060110-00060397 to see me shake her on her own now this
iI0lJUqg7P8-00217-00060398-00060679 isn't always easy particularly as shown
iI0lJUqg7P8-00218-00060679-00060919 isn't happy that I would do that but
iI0lJUqg7P8-00219-00060920-00061182 quite often if I talk about first of all
iI0lJUqg7P8-00220-00061183-00061357 bringing the baby back in a few days for
iI0lJUqg7P8-00221-00061358-00061639 a checkup of the fever you know whatever
iI0lJUqg7P8-00222-00061640-00061807 it is that I might find a check of the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00223-00061808-00062082 chest or feeding or what have you the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00224-00062083-00062347 sick baby is a really good int to this
iI0lJUqg7P8-00225-00062348-00062509 family this couple gives you a really
iI0lJUqg7P8-00226-00062510-00062839 good way to engage them the second thing
iI0lJUqg7P8-00227-00062840-00063030 is I would say to show Nana shake of it
iI0lJUqg7P8-00228-00063032-00063304 you know women after childbirth do need
iI0lJUqg7P8-00229-00063304-00063463 regular check-ups to make sure they're
iI0lJUqg7P8-00230-00063464-00063709 okay and often this is women's business
iI0lJUqg7P8-00231-00063710-00064249 and it's important that that rishika has
iI0lJUqg7P8-00232-00064250-00064519 the opportunity to have a full women's
iI0lJUqg7P8-00233-00064520-00064828 checkup it's quite possible that she she
iI0lJUqg7P8-00234-00064829-00065007 made I can't remember she may or may not
iI0lJUqg7P8-00235-00065008-00065173 have had a six-week check
iI0lJUqg7P8-00236-00065174-00065278 you may or may not have had a perhaps
iI0lJUqg7P8-00237-00065279-00065482 there so at least I can offer that she
iI0lJUqg7P8-00238-00065483-00065812 does that and most men in that situation
iI0lJUqg7P8-00239-00065813-00065971 are quite happy to go out of the room at
iI0lJUqg7P8-00240-00065972-00066268 that point at least in my experience if
iI0lJUqg7P8-00241-00066269-00066427 the course of the male doctor it would
iI0lJUqg7P8-00242-00066428-00066556 be a little bit more difficult and I
iI0lJUqg7P8-00243-00066557-00066721 would try them to refer to a female
iI0lJUqg7P8-00244-00066722-00067009 doctor or a women's health nurse if I
iI0lJUqg7P8-00245-00067010-00067135 was lucky enough to have one in my
iI0lJUqg7P8-00246-00067136-00067480 practice a quick point about language
iI0lJUqg7P8-00247-00067481-00067798 now this couple speaks very good English
iI0lJUqg7P8-00248-00067799-00068278 but it is very very important when you
iI0lJUqg7P8-00249-00068279-00068404 are seeing people from non-english
iI0lJUqg7P8-00250-00068405-00068641 speaking backgrounds that you offer a
iI0lJUqg7P8-00251-00068642-00068896 trained interpreter the telephone
iI0lJUqg7P8-00252-00068897-00069106 interpreting services of free service
iI0lJUqg7P8-00253-00069107-00069517 that any GP can use to register the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00254-00069518-00069697 interpreter can be on-site or over the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00255-00069698-00070027 phone and the interpret can also be
iI0lJUqg7P8-00256-00070028-00070234 interstate and in certain circumstances
iI0lJUqg7P8-00257-00070235-00070501 I had actually arranged with the patient
iI0lJUqg7P8-00258-00070502-00070684 before using the interpreter that I
iI0lJUqg7P8-00259-00070685-00070927 would give the patient an alias and use
iI0lJUqg7P8-00260-00070928-00071098 an interpreter state so there was no way
iI0lJUqg7P8-00261-00071099-00071233 that anyone could work out who they were
iI0lJUqg7P8-00262-00071234-00071947 and this has been very successful now
iI0lJUqg7P8-00263-00071948-00072091 when we look at this family there are a
iI0lJUqg7P8-00264-00072092-00072424 few things obviously that come to mind
iI0lJUqg7P8-00265-00072425-00072688 and we are going to talk about one is
iI0lJUqg7P8-00266-00072689-00072865 the possibility of internet partner
iI0lJUqg7P8-00267-00072866-00073213 violence and how we deal with that in
iI0lJUqg7P8-00268-00073214-00073525 this complicated setting another is
iI0lJUqg7P8-00269-00073526-00073777 little anisha's sleeping problems and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00270-00073778-00074113 possible failure to thrive and that
iI0lJUqg7P8-00271-00074114-00074548 again is a way of involving other
iI0lJUqg7P8-00272-00074549-00074752 services perhaps in a fairly safe and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00273-00074753-00075076 non-judgmental way the third point is
iI0lJUqg7P8-00274-00075077-00075331 rishika social isolation and her need
iI0lJUqg7P8-00275-00075332-00075466 for support and how we go about
iI0lJUqg7P8-00276-00075467-00075778 facilitating nash and then i think it
iI0lJUqg7P8-00277-00075779-00075979 isn't mustn't be forgotten mission is
iI0lJUqg7P8-00278-00075980-00076242 clearly under quite a bit of stress and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00279-00076243-00076573 as a way perhaps of supporting this
iI0lJUqg7P8-00280-00076574-00076846 couple his issues also need to be at
iI0lJUqg7P8-00281-00076847-00077171 least considered
iI0lJUqg7P8-00282-00077172-00077443 um so what can a GP do when they're
iI0lJUqg7P8-00283-00077444-00077678 faced with this sort of situation when
iI0lJUqg7P8-00284-00077679-00077812 we are querying intimate partner
iI0lJUqg7P8-00285-00077813-00078167 violence I suppose if I've been lucky
iI0lJUqg7P8-00286-00078168-00078319 enough to get to the point where now I
iI0lJUqg7P8-00287-00078320-00078544 have free sugar on her own she might
iI0lJUqg7P8-00288-00078545-00078791 have seen me a few times maybe as shown
iI0lJUqg7P8-00289-00078792-00078980 is now comfortable enough to allow her
iI0lJUqg7P8-00290-00078981-00079132 to come because he realizes that we're a
iI0lJUqg7P8-00291-00079133-00079340 trustworthy practice we're hoping his
iI0lJUqg7P8-00292-00079341-00079811 daughter if things have improved he will
iI0lJUqg7P8-00293-00079812-00080053 be studying and working more effectively
iI0lJUqg7P8-00294-00080054-00080330 what I would do with rishika is I would
iI0lJUqg7P8-00295-00080331-00080522 first of all try to facilitate the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00296-00080523-00080899 discussion the RSC GP has some very good
iI0lJUqg7P8-00297-00080900-00081059 guidelines or managing violence in
iI0lJUqg7P8-00298-00081060-00081274 general practice they talk about for
iI0lJUqg7P8-00299-00081275-00081449 example having posted in the waiting
iI0lJUqg7P8-00300-00081450-00081799 room so that the practice is revealed to
iI0lJUqg7P8-00301-00081800-00082121 be a fairly safe practice of practice
iI0lJUqg7P8-00302-00082122-00082405 that considers these things and I would
iI0lJUqg7P8-00303-00082406-00082721 try to allow discussion I'd asked a
iI0lJUqg7P8-00304-00082722-00082946 question and often I ask these sorts of
iI0lJUqg7P8-00305-00082947-00083090 difficult questions in the third person
iI0lJUqg7P8-00306-00083091-00083532 for example something along the lines of
iI0lJUqg7P8-00307-00083533-00084116 I know that some people some husbands
iI0lJUqg7P8-00308-00084117-00084517 and wives have difficulties at home is
iI0lJUqg7P8-00309-00084518-00084700 there anything worrying you at the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00310-00084701-00084941 moment that you'd like to speak to me
iI0lJUqg7P8-00311-00084942-00085328 about today so I would try to put it in
iI0lJUqg7P8-00312-00085329-00085553 a feeling non-judgmental fairly open
iI0lJUqg7P8-00313-00085554-00085855 ended way to really allow rishika to
iI0lJUqg7P8-00314-00085856-00086090 respond at the level that she wanted to
iI0lJUqg7P8-00315-00086091-00086311 and I would also be aware that she may
iI0lJUqg7P8-00316-00086312-00086524 not tell me anything or may only hint
iI0lJUqg7P8-00317-00086525-00086735 and then a couple of visits down the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00318-00086736-00086885 track she may be prepared to say a
iI0lJUqg7P8-00319-00086886-00087242 little bit more I think that the best
iI0lJUqg7P8-00320-00087243-00087436 approach would be a very non-judgmental
iI0lJUqg7P8-00321-00087437-00087848 and empathic sort of approach and that I
iI0lJUqg7P8-00322-00087849-00088142 would validate her experience whatever
iI0lJUqg7P8-00323-00088143-00088432 is going on that's her experiences if
iI0lJUqg7P8-00324-00088433-00088630 she is being abused that is not
iI0lJUqg7P8-00325-00088631-00089009 acceptable but at the same time try not
iI0lJUqg7P8-00326-00089010-00089206 to push her too hard to make any
iI0lJUqg7P8-00327-00089207-00089350 particular step that you may not be
iI0lJUqg7P8-00328-00089351-00089605 willing to make because she is very on
iI0lJUqg7P8-00329-00089606-00089786 her own she has a little baby to care
iI0lJUqg7P8-00330-00089787-00090076 for and she's struggling hard enough as
iI0lJUqg7P8-00331-00090077-00090229 it is without getting pressure from me
iI0lJUqg7P8-00332-00090230-00090568 what she needs for me is a supportive hi
iI0lJUqg7P8-00333-00090569-00091051 a person to whom she can come and who
iI0lJUqg7P8-00334-00091052-00091334 can at least tell her what her options
iI0lJUqg7P8-00335-00091335-00091556 are and what is acceptable in Australia
iI0lJUqg7P8-00336-00091557-00091922 give her a norm and that I can offer her
iI0lJUqg7P8-00337-00091923-00092066 information and resources in the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00338-00092067-00092321 appropriate language at some point down
iI0lJUqg7P8-00339-00092322-00092618 the track if things were really not very
iI0lJUqg7P8-00340-00092619-00092894 good it would be possible to talk about
iI0lJUqg7P8-00341-00092895-00093206 a safety plan but this would be way down
iI0lJUqg7P8-00342-00093207-00093380 the track possibly for someone into a
iI0lJUqg7P8-00343-00093381-00094034 situation um and I sort of gin bottle of
iI0lJUqg7P8-00344-00094035-00094241 food I'm just going to have to ask you
iI0lJUqg7P8-00345-00094242-00094619 to to to move along made-up flaws yeah
iI0lJUqg7P8-00346-00094620-00094856 sure thank you very much thanks I think
iI0lJUqg7P8-00347-00094857-00095107 it's also important that I be fairly
iI0lJUqg7P8-00348-00095108-00095363 very non-judgmental over any issues to
iI0lJUqg7P8-00349-00095364-00095540 do with culture or arranged marriage and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00350-00095541-00095750 perhaps at some point check in about her
iI0lJUqg7P8-00351-00095751-00095924 family of origin attitude to separation
iI0lJUqg7P8-00352-00095925-00096307 and divorce and be aware that issues on
iI0lJUqg7P8-00353-00096308-00096544 a visa this makers also present certain
iI0lJUqg7P8-00354-00096545-00096956 difficulties other supports that might I
iI0lJUqg7P8-00355-00096957-00097115 might be able to bring in a fairly early
iI0lJUqg7P8-00356-00097116-00097363 level would be an enhanced home visiting
iI0lJUqg7P8-00357-00097364-00097511 maternal child health less support
iI0lJUqg7P8-00358-00097512-00097813 service to help her with rishika and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00359-00097814-00098378 danisha or to offer offer a intimate
iI0lJUqg7P8-00360-00098379-00098842 partner violence support worker and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00361-00098843-00099143 thank you very much Elvis Elvis
iI0lJUqg7P8-00362-00099144-00099446 excellent chillin and just for the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00363-00099447-00099680 benefit of those who who lacks and and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00364-00099681-00099982 earlier on we were and he may not have
iI0lJUqg7P8-00365-00099983-00100238 read the case we're dealing with a
iI0lJUqg7P8-00366-00100239-00100707 family and migrants from from India and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00367-00100708-00101246 rishika and the mum has presented with
iI0lJUqg7P8-00368-00101247-00101425 her husband and with a little baby the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00369-00101426-00101731 baby is possibly not not thriving and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00370-00101732-00102007 and there is a question as to whether
iI0lJUqg7P8-00371-00102008-00102290 rishika the mum has got some bruising
iI0lJUqg7P8-00372-00102291-00102616 and they're under multiple stressors of
iI0lJUqg7P8-00373-00102617-00102919 one of difficulty in finding work
iI0lJUqg7P8-00374-00102920-00103226 falling behind and study and having a
iI0lJUqg7P8-00375-00103227-00103627 young baby and in a strange country
iI0lJUqg7P8-00376-00103628-00103927 and so Harry just with that setting I
iI0lJUqg7P8-00377-00103928-00104101 will just move on to your presentation
iI0lJUqg7P8-00378-00104102-00104404 please okay thanks thanks very much
iI0lJUqg7P8-00379-00104405-00104848 Michael I think Joanne has identified
iI0lJUqg7P8-00380-00104849-00105217 all of the key issues we should just go
iI0lJUqg7P8-00381-00105218-00105459 back a little bit now this is a Hindu
iI0lJUqg7P8-00382-00105460-00105727 family arranged marriage is not that
iI0lJUqg7P8-00383-00105728-00106086 uncommon ich schon is one of very many
iI0lJUqg7P8-00384-00106088-00106414 students who from overseas in Australia
iI0lJUqg7P8-00385-00106415-00106615 and who are studying and at the same
iI0lJUqg7P8-00386-00106616-00106996 time of working he is working as a taxi
iI0lJUqg7P8-00387-00106997-00107224 driver mostly at night so that it
iI0lJUqg7P8-00388-00107225-00107605 doesn't see his family so much rishika
iI0lJUqg7P8-00389-00107606-00107965 who worked as a in a business role in
iI0lJUqg7P8-00390-00107966-00108304 India has made many applications but
iI0lJUqg7P8-00391-00108305-00108589 he's unable to find work so there may
iI0lJUqg7P8-00392-00108590-00108908 also be issues she's not even getting
iI0lJUqg7P8-00393-00108909-00109144 interviews so there may be issues and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00394-00109145-00109381 concerns about whether there's racism at
iI0lJUqg7P8-00395-00109382-00109555 play whether there is discrimination
iI0lJUqg7P8-00396-00109556-00109840 against somebody from India they've only
iI0lJUqg7P8-00397-00109841-00110034 been in Australia for 12 months are
iI0lJUqg7P8-00398-00110035-00110361 there still really just settling in and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00399-00110363-00110559 it's clear that they have some
iI0lJUqg7P8-00400-00110560-00110773 significant financial problems they're
iI0lJUqg7P8-00401-00110774-00110958 living in shared accommodation it would
iI0lJUqg7P8-00402-00110959-00111247 be necessary to find out what that
iI0lJUqg7P8-00403-00111248-00111457 shared accommodation actually is who are
iI0lJUqg7P8-00404-00111458-00111640 they living with do they have any
iI0lJUqg7P8-00405-00111641-00111834 private space are they able to have
iI0lJUqg7P8-00406-00111835-00112105 private discussions are they able to
iI0lJUqg7P8-00407-00112106-00112402 look after their child in a way that a
iI0lJUqg7P8-00408-00112403-00112729 young family would want to do so as
iI0lJUqg7P8-00409-00112730-00113184 Joanne said it's a situation where both
iI0lJUqg7P8-00410-00113185-00113452 rishika and her husband are under
iI0lJUqg7P8-00411-00113453-00113791 considerable pressure there so there are
iI0lJUqg7P8-00412-00113792-00114067 concerns I think about every member of
iI0lJUqg7P8-00413-00114068-00114442 the family if we go to the the the you
iI0lJUqg7P8-00414-00114443-00114748 know the person who who has has been
iI0lJUqg7P8-00415-00114749-00115047 presented with the problem is the baby
iI0lJUqg7P8-00416-00115048-00115324 she's small for her age it's a matter of
iI0lJUqg7P8-00417-00115325-00115543 working out and his giant says this
iI0lJUqg7P8-00418-00115544-00115843 requires a very careful examination and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00419-00115844-00116036 assessment about whether she's actually
iI0lJUqg7P8-00420-00116038-00116473 developing normally or not and is
iI0lJUqg7P8-00421-00116474-00116689 sleeping poorly and it may be that the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00422-00116690-00116974 poor sleep is related also to some of
iI0lJUqg7P8-00423-00116975-00116991 the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00424-00116992-00117159 problems that there are in the family
iI0lJUqg7P8-00425-00117160-00117611 between the mother and the father
iI0lJUqg7P8-00426-00117612-00117898 rishika her situation is pretty tenuous
iI0lJUqg7P8-00427-00117899-00118231 she's not financially independent she's
iI0lJUqg7P8-00428-00118232-00118512 here with her husband she's on a spouse
iI0lJUqg7P8-00429-00118513-00118831 visa so things fall apart in the family
iI0lJUqg7P8-00430-00118832-00119049 it's very unclear what her situation
iI0lJUqg7P8-00431-00119050-00119436 would be there there are clear
iI0lJUqg7P8-00432-00119437-00119864 indications that violence is happening
iI0lJUqg7P8-00433-00119865-00120193 she's got bruises she tries to cover
iI0lJUqg7P8-00434-00120194-00120408 them up during the initial consultation
iI0lJUqg7P8-00435-00120409-00120738 with the GP she is very concerned but
iI0lJUqg7P8-00436-00120739-00121035 he's not talking about this nor is her
iI0lJUqg7P8-00437-00121036-00121294 husband there are some indications that
iI0lJUqg7P8-00438-00121295-00121608 she may be depressed so at some point I
iI0lJUqg7P8-00439-00121609-00121839 think it's going to be necessary for an
iI0lJUqg7P8-00440-00121840-00122182 assessment of her mental state workout
iI0lJUqg7P8-00441-00122183-00122521 issued officiate issue depressed what is
iI0lJUqg7P8-00442-00122522-00122733 the severity of her depression is this
iI0lJUqg7P8-00443-00122734-00123075 related to her her baby's difficulties
iI0lJUqg7P8-00444-00123076-00123285 we know that depress the children the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00445-00123286-00123552 very young children of depressed mothers
iI0lJUqg7P8-00446-00123553-00123832 run into all kinds of problems so this
iI0lJUqg7P8-00447-00123833-00124072 may be happening with her child and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00448-00124073-00124278 there's a there's quite a worrying
iI0lJUqg7P8-00449-00124279-00124614 comment towards the end where there's
iI0lJUqg7P8-00450-00124615-00124918 some discussion about the baby and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00451-00124919-00125103 whether the baby should be sent back to
iI0lJUqg7P8-00452-00125104-00125354 be looked after by her parents in India
iI0lJUqg7P8-00453-00125355-00125697 Russia cos comment is she's all I have
iI0lJUqg7P8-00454-00125698-00125964 this suggests that she's not in a very
iI0lJUqg7P8-00455-00125965-00126252 good state you know they're there is
iI0lJUqg7P8-00456-00126253-00126710 clearly a need to carry out a very good
iI0lJUqg7P8-00457-00126711-00127137 assessment about her mental state
iI0lJUqg7P8-00458-00127138-00127284 whether she's got a significant
iI0lJUqg7P8-00459-00127285-00127594 depression or other problems the problem
iI0lJUqg7P8-00460-00127595-00127798 of course is that her husband ition is
iI0lJUqg7P8-00461-00127799-00128098 very reluctant for her to do anything on
iI0lJUqg7P8-00462-00128099-00128448 her own he's not very keen for her to
iI0lJUqg7P8-00463-00128449-00128661 see the doctor by herself she's not very
iI0lJUqg7P8-00464-00128662-00128874 he's not keen for her to go to the MOT
iI0lJUqg7P8-00465-00128875-00129172 to the temple on her own he says he's
iI0lJUqg7P8-00466-00129173-00129411 worried that the the place where the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00467-00129412-00129631 temple is located is a bit dangerous so
iI0lJUqg7P8-00468-00129632-00129838 he doesn't want her going on her own
iI0lJUqg7P8-00469-00129839-00130181 he really doesn't want his his his wife
iI0lJUqg7P8-00470-00130182-00130391 rishika to do anything very much on her
iI0lJUqg7P8-00471-00130392-00130673 own he is clearly in controlled in this
iI0lJUqg7P8-00472-00130674-00131153 family and he's also under pressure as
iI0lJUqg7P8-00473-00131154-00131432 Joanne has said he seems to be running
iI0lJUqg7P8-00474-00131433-00131621 into some difficulties with his study
iI0lJUqg7P8-00475-00131622-00131927 keeping up thats related both to the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00476-00131928-00132095 problems with the child and the child
iI0lJUqg7P8-00477-00132096-00132344 sleeping and also the fact that he has
iI0lJUqg7P8-00478-00132345-00132824 to work so i think what we have here is
iI0lJUqg7P8-00479-00132825-00133289 a essentially a family which is in
iI0lJUqg7P8-00480-00133290-00133649 trouble the the baby's got some
iI0lJUqg7P8-00481-00133650-00133820 difficulties that need to be carefully
iI0lJUqg7P8-00482-00133821-00133976 assessed certainly the mother has some
iI0lJUqg7P8-00483-00133977-00134258 difficulties but as johane Joanne has
iI0lJUqg7P8-00484-00134259-00134546 correctly said we need also to be a bit
iI0lJUqg7P8-00485-00134547-00134714 concerned about what's happening with
iI0lJUqg7P8-00486-00134715-00134879 her with the husband and what his
iI0lJUqg7P8-00487-00134880-00135182 situation is and some of the problems is
iI0lJUqg7P8-00488-00135183-00135476 looking for the the control that the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00489-00135477-00135739 husband is exercising over his wife's
iI0lJUqg7P8-00490-00135740-00136247 ability to be see anybody on her own I
iI0lJUqg7P8-00491-00136248-00136520 think it's a little early for rishika to
iI0lJUqg7P8-00492-00136521-00136826 be the focus of this although there are
iI0lJUqg7P8-00493-00136827-00137069 some very clear indications that that
iI0lJUqg7P8-00494-00137070-00137303 family violence is likely to be
iI0lJUqg7P8-00495-00137304-00137660 happening and I think the other issue is
iI0lJUqg7P8-00496-00137661-00137951 whether rishika situation can actually
iI0lJUqg7P8-00497-00137952-00138278 be improved without engaging her husband
iI0lJUqg7P8-00498-00138279-00138692 is young and so it seems to me that what
iI0lJUqg7P8-00499-00138693-00139142 we have is a number of risks to keep in
iI0lJUqg7P8-00500-00139143-00139423 mind certainly the risk of violence
iI0lJUqg7P8-00501-00139424-00139640 worsening mental health problems in
iI0lJUqg7P8-00502-00139641-00139973 rishika possibility that if things fall
iI0lJUqg7P8-00503-00139974-00140162 apart in the family that you may be able
iI0lJUqg7P8-00504-00140163-00140471 to undermine in Australia for the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00505-00140472-00140834 husband he is the likely perpetrator of
iI0lJUqg7P8-00506-00140835-00141191 the violence this by itself suggests
iI0lJUqg7P8-00507-00141192-00141461 that there is enormous stress within the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00508-00141462-00141713 family there's the possibility that he
iI0lJUqg7P8-00509-00141714-00141923 might lose his wife and child if things
iI0lJUqg7P8-00510-00141924-00142226 are not resolved and there's a
iI0lJUqg7P8-00511-00142227-00142433 possibility that he's not doing it all
iI0lJUqg7P8-00512-00142434-00142625 well in his studies and I think we need
iI0lJUqg7P8-00513-00142626-00142844 to keep in mind some of the cultural
iI0lJUqg7P8-00514-00142845-00143039 issues here an international student
iI0lJUqg7P8-00515-00143040-00143201 it's costing
iI0lJUqg7P8-00516-00143202-00143402 body a lot of money to keep him here and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00517-00143403-00143693 study there are issues of his own pride
iI0lJUqg7P8-00518-00143694-00143945 and the family's pride if he is not
iI0lJUqg7P8-00519-00143946-00144224 doing well in his studies so those
iI0lJUqg7P8-00520-00144225-00144455 things may also be contributing
iI0lJUqg7P8-00521-00144456-00144785 significantly to his behavior in
iI0lJUqg7P8-00522-00144786-00144986 relation to his wife and also to his
iI0lJUqg7P8-00523-00144987-00145286 child although there's no suggestion of
iI0lJUqg7P8-00524-00145287-00145481 it I think the possibility that the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00525-00145482-00145703 child the baby might be at risk needs
iI0lJUqg7P8-00526-00145704-00146006 always to be kept in mind and so that's
iI0lJUqg7P8-00527-00146007-00146270 something that needs to be dawid to be
iI0lJUqg7P8-00528-00146271-00146516 considered there's the the risk of the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00529-00146517-00146702 family might break up if things don't
iI0lJUqg7P8-00530-00146703-00147131 don't not resolved but as I mentioned
iI0lJUqg7P8-00531-00147132-00147359 before I think it's unlikely that it's
iI0lJUqg7P8-00532-00147360-00147512 going to be possible to do anything
iI0lJUqg7P8-00533-00147513-00147728 effective about this multiple risks
iI0lJUqg7P8-00534-00147729-00148018 without actually engaging is shown and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00535-00148019-00148397 as Joanne Joanne has said I think the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00536-00148398-00148670 entry point is the baby I think both the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00537-00148671-00148844 father and mother are clearly concerned
iI0lJUqg7P8-00538-00148845-00149234 about the baby about its growth about
iI0lJUqg7P8-00539-00149235-00149665 its pre-sleep and so on I think concern
iI0lJUqg7P8-00540-00149666-00150035 about the baby is likely to the likely
iI0lJUqg7P8-00541-00150036-00150251 to be the most acceptable entry point to
iI0lJUqg7P8-00542-00150252-00150545 a broader assessment of how this family
iI0lJUqg7P8-00543-00150546-00150833 is functioning there are obviously big
iI0lJUqg7P8-00544-00150834-00151091 problems in terms of family function and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00545-00151092-00151403 I think assessing that is the the the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00546-00151404-00151766 the most urgent issue in terms of
iI0lJUqg7P8-00547-00151767-00152105 whether rishika is referred by general
iI0lJUqg7P8-00548-00152106-00152285 practitioner to some specialist support
iI0lJUqg7P8-00549-00152286-00152564 it's very unlikely that her husband
iI0lJUqg7P8-00550-00152565-00152768 would accept and she has helped may not
iI0lJUqg7P8-00551-00152769-00152951 accept referral to a psychiatrist the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00552-00152952-00153323 discharge of this stage johane Joanne
iI0lJUqg7P8-00553-00153324-00153536 has already said that it's a bit down
iI0lJUqg7P8-00554-00153537-00153839 the track in terms of actually being
iI0lJUqg7P8-00555-00153840-00154100 able to bring to the fore this issue of
iI0lJUqg7P8-00556-00154101-00154379 domestic violence and it may be at some
iI0lJUqg7P8-00557-00154380-00154520 point a little bit further down the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00558-00154521-00154742 track that somebody else can be brought
iI0lJUqg7P8-00559-00154743-00154954 in to look at the issue of violence and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00560-00154955-00155174 one of the things that needs to be
iI0lJUqg7P8-00561-00155175-00155399 thought about I think is the possibility
iI0lJUqg7P8-00562-00155400-00155672 of referring to a pediatrician who who
iI0lJUqg7P8-00563-00155673-00155888 is known to have very good skills in
iI0lJUqg7P8-00564-00155889-00156149 both assessment of families and also
iI0lJUqg7P8-00565-00156150-00156344 assessment of possible mental health
iI0lJUqg7P8-00566-00156345-00156572 problems in the different men
iI0lJUqg7P8-00567-00156573-00156797 members of the family and this may be
iI0lJUqg7P8-00568-00156798-00157088 the way to actually get into this family
iI0lJUqg7P8-00569-00157089-00157459 and to start looking at what's happening
iI0lJUqg7P8-00570-00157460-00157739 start getting the family to acknowledge
iI0lJUqg7P8-00571-00157740-00158048 the problems that do exist and open up a
iI0lJUqg7P8-00572-00158049-00158297 space to look for some kind of
iI0lJUqg7P8-00573-00158298-00158507 resolution of those problems which may
iI0lJUqg7P8-00574-00158508-00158807 or may not involve specific psychiatric
iI0lJUqg7P8-00575-00158808-00159413 treatment so that's it for me thank you
iI0lJUqg7P8-00576-00159414-00159629 thank you very much Harry that was that
iI0lJUqg7P8-00577-00159630-00159895 was an excellent presentation and and as
iI0lJUqg7P8-00578-00159896-00160264 gallant and now we move on to latter's
iI0lJUqg7P8-00579-00160265-00161237 presentation RM our psychologist now go
iI0lJUqg7P8-00580-00161238-00161483 ahead Michael yes yes go ahead thank you
iI0lJUqg7P8-00581-00161484-00161870 later sure hello everyone um I would
iI0lJUqg7P8-00582-00161871-00162269 just like to provide this presentation
iI0lJUqg7P8-00583-00162270-00162563 in terms of what my usual experience is
iI0lJUqg7P8-00584-00162564-00162842 with regard to women approaching me yes
iI0lJUqg7P8-00585-00162843-00163079 sometimes we would expect that the first
iI0lJUqg7P8-00586-00163080-00163328 port of call would be perhaps a GP or a
iI0lJUqg7P8-00587-00163329-00163637 psychiatrist however the way women
iI0lJUqg7P8-00588-00163638-00163946 usually approach me is that they do so
iI0lJUqg7P8-00589-00163947-00164276 voluntarily they somehow seem to just
iI0lJUqg7P8-00590-00164277-00164450 become aware of the service that I
iI0lJUqg7P8-00591-00164451-00164654 provide I let you know that i do work as
iI0lJUqg7P8-00592-00164655-00164918 a voluntary psychologist because of
iI0lJUqg7P8-00593-00164919-00165089 course i do work as a lecturer in the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00594-00165090-00165335 university but that work is separate to
iI0lJUqg7P8-00595-00165336-00165497 the work that i drove it in the Indian
iI0lJUqg7P8-00596-00165498-00165740 community especially with the Indian
iI0lJUqg7P8-00597-00165741-00165932 community but I also assist migrants
iI0lJUqg7P8-00598-00165933-00166106 from other backgrounds for going through
iI0lJUqg7P8-00599-00166107-00166574 abuse so the women usually just call me
iI0lJUqg7P8-00600-00166575-00166970 or tell their friend to perhaps check me
iI0lJUqg7P8-00601-00166971-00167204 out in terms of whether I would be able
iI0lJUqg7P8-00602-00167205-00167501 to assist them or not and also to really
iI0lJUqg7P8-00603-00167502-00167723 become aware of whether I would be
iI0lJUqg7P8-00604-00167724-00167942 trustworthy enough they would usually
iI0lJUqg7P8-00605-00167943-00168227 want to speak about their problems to
iI0lJUqg7P8-00606-00168228-00168380 somebody whom they can trust and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00607-00168381-00168583 somebody who does not know their family
iI0lJUqg7P8-00608-00168584-00168908 so I might especially fit into that
iI0lJUqg7P8-00609-00168909-00169082 second category you know they become
iI0lJUqg7P8-00610-00169083-00169288 aware of the trust issues a little later
iI0lJUqg7P8-00611-00169289-00169544 and then they become aware that perhaps
iI0lJUqg7P8-00612-00169545-00169817 I have helped other women and that I may
iI0lJUqg7P8-00613-00169818-00169931 know the system
iI0lJUqg7P8-00614-00169932-00170174 so they become aware of this either
iI0lJUqg7P8-00615-00170175-00170372 again through friends or through other
iI0lJUqg7P8-00616-00170373-00170597 people you know some people have also
iI0lJUqg7P8-00617-00170598-00170765 called you know just on a search through
iI0lJUqg7P8-00618-00170766-00170939 google devout their friends to do a
iI0lJUqg7P8-00619-00170940-00171095 google search and then their friend
iI0lJUqg7P8-00620-00171096-00171308 informed the friend over here who was in
iI0lJUqg7P8-00621-00171309-00171599 hospital to call me and say that perhaps
iI0lJUqg7P8-00622-00171600-00171854 that i could help them inaud again
iI0lJUqg7P8-00623-00171855-00172085 through facebook it's just because i
iI0lJUqg7P8-00624-00172086-00172277 have formed a group called the Indian
iI0lJUqg7P8-00625-00172278-00172520 women's support group and so they if
iI0lJUqg7P8-00626-00172521-00172702 they try to google anything again about
iI0lJUqg7P8-00627-00172703-00173066 providing support to Indian women they
iI0lJUqg7P8-00628-00173067-00173279 may come across that or through an
iI0lJUqg7P8-00629-00173280-00173453 organization and I've written they're
iI0lJUqg7P8-00630-00173454-00173687 unlikely because they usually again
iI0lJUqg7P8-00631-00173688-00173915 would not approach an organization to
iI0lJUqg7P8-00632-00173916-00174200 talk about any difficulties they may be
iI0lJUqg7P8-00633-00174201-00174575 having so overall the woman who might be
iI0lJUqg7P8-00634-00174576-00174734 going through intimate partner violence
iI0lJUqg7P8-00635-00174735-00175028 such as rishika herself would initially
iI0lJUqg7P8-00636-00175029-00175397 contact me on a very informal basis but
iI0lJUqg7P8-00637-00175398-00175553 her wave of course the advice that I
iI0lJUqg7P8-00638-00175554-00175766 provide would all be professional and I
iI0lJUqg7P8-00639-00175767-00175997 do inform them of the confidentiality
iI0lJUqg7P8-00640-00175998-00176342 issues and all of the other regulations
iI0lJUqg7P8-00641-00176343-00176609 and that I would follow when they are
iI0lJUqg7P8-00642-00176610-00176972 narrating their stories if you like to
iI0lJUqg7P8-00643-00176973-00177437 me and their difficulties to me so it it
iI0lJUqg7P8-00644-00177438-00177638 is difficult for them to make that first
iI0lJUqg7P8-00645-00177639-00177931 port of call it's really difficult and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00646-00177932-00178208 you know a lot of the time the women
iI0lJUqg7P8-00647-00178209-00178403 have actually gone through several years
iI0lJUqg7P8-00648-00178404-00178661 of abuse ranging from anywhere between
iI0lJUqg7P8-00649-00178662-00178928 one year to 14 years of abuse before
iI0lJUqg7P8-00650-00178929-00179111 they've actually picked up the phone and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00651-00179112-00179423 call somebody or even told anybody of
iI0lJUqg7P8-00652-00179424-00179570 the difficulties that they have been
iI0lJUqg7P8-00653-00179571-00179834 facing for most of their lives so it is
iI0lJUqg7P8-00654-00179835-00180095 a very difficult issue for women to even
iI0lJUqg7P8-00655-00180096-00180431 just pick up the phone and call so you
iI0lJUqg7P8-00656-00180432-00180695 know Joanne has gone through about the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00657-00180696-00180905 GP and how they would diagnose them I
iI0lJUqg7P8-00658-00180906-00181331 think it's a really important point
iI0lJUqg7P8-00659-00181332-00181649 where in a GP could actually try and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00660-00181650-00181940 pick up on certain signs as to what
iI0lJUqg7P8-00661-00181941-00182108 might be happening within the family
iI0lJUqg7P8-00662-00182109-00182327 because apart from approaching a
iI0lJUqg7P8-00663-00182328-00182554 psychologist you know they would more so
iI0lJUqg7P8-00664-00182555-00182858 approach a GP for any other instance
iI0lJUqg7P8-00665-00182859-00183071 such as the child being unwell so this
iI0lJUqg7P8-00666-00183072-00183269 is where GPS I think need to be true
iI0lJUqg7P8-00667-00183270-00183437 in further to pick up and look out for
iI0lJUqg7P8-00668-00183438-00183722 signs really in relation to intimate
iI0lJUqg7P8-00669-00183723-00183920 partner violence and then actually act
iI0lJUqg7P8-00670-00183921-00184268 on it I do know of a few GPS who are
iI0lJUqg7P8-00671-00184269-00184595 quite aware of these issues and they do
iI0lJUqg7P8-00672-00184596-00184838 pick up on the signs and then do
iI0lJUqg7P8-00673-00184839-00185063 something about it unfortunately some of
iI0lJUqg7P8-00674-00185064-00185261 the other people I speak to their aware
iI0lJUqg7P8-00675-00185262-00185450 that it may actually involve more
iI0lJUqg7P8-00676-00185451-00185702 paperwork and so they're not prepared to
iI0lJUqg7P8-00677-00185703-00185984 actually do something about it unless
iI0lJUqg7P8-00678-00185985-00186256 the family actually tells them something
iI0lJUqg7P8-00679-00186257-00186650 so that is something that we need to be
iI0lJUqg7P8-00680-00186651-00187130 aware of as well and in so if someone
iI0lJUqg7P8-00681-00187131-00187364 does contact us you know but it's about
iI0lJUqg7P8-00682-00187365-00187748 how do we help them and I think the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00683-00187749-00187982 first important thing is to understand
iI0lJUqg7P8-00684-00187983-00188237 the person and I see understand her it's
iI0lJUqg7P8-00685-00188238-00188438 big what I mean is that understand her
iI0lJUqg7P8-00686-00188439-00188681 holistically in terms of how difficult
iI0lJUqg7P8-00687-00188682-00188864 it must have been for her to actually
iI0lJUqg7P8-00688-00188865-00189089 just pick up the phone or to even
iI0lJUqg7P8-00689-00189090-00189308 approach you to tell you anything at all
iI0lJUqg7P8-00690-00189309-00189527 in terms of the difficulties that she
iI0lJUqg7P8-00691-00189528-00189713 may be having whether the person
iI0lJUqg7P8-00692-00189714-00190028 approaches you as a GP or as a social
iI0lJUqg7P8-00693-00190029-00190241 worker or you know you come across her
iI0lJUqg7P8-00694-00190242-00190376 through another kind of training
iI0lJUqg7P8-00695-00190377-00190592 organisation but I think it's really
iI0lJUqg7P8-00696-00190593-00190778 important to understand when the woman
iI0lJUqg7P8-00697-00190779-00191159 start speaking about her background to
iI0lJUqg7P8-00698-00191160-00191423 really be informed about her culture as
iI0lJUqg7P8-00699-00191424-00191693 well her cultural orientation and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00700-00191694-00191981 cultural practices and what I mean by
iI0lJUqg7P8-00701-00191982-00192215 this is that how difficult it would be
iI0lJUqg7P8-00702-00192216-00192476 for someone such as rishika to open up
iI0lJUqg7P8-00703-00192477-00192749 anything at all about the husband and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00704-00192750-00192911 her experiences within the family
iI0lJUqg7P8-00705-00192912-00193220 because it is a matter of shame to
iI0lJUqg7P8-00706-00193221-00193544 actually talk badly about the family and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00707-00193545-00193793 in fact to talk about the difficulties
iI0lJUqg7P8-00708-00193794-00194005 one is experiencing within the household
iI0lJUqg7P8-00709-00194006-00194342 outside the household so it's really
iI0lJUqg7P8-00710-00194343-00194618 important to be aware of that we also
iI0lJUqg7P8-00711-00194619-00194807 need to understand the ostracization
iI0lJUqg7P8-00712-00194808-00195212 that may occur for the family if rishika
iI0lJUqg7P8-00713-00195213-00195428 went outside the family to actually seek
iI0lJUqg7P8-00714-00195429-00195635 assistance and talk about some of the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00715-00195636-00195923 negative experiences she's having within
iI0lJUqg7P8-00716-00195924-00196163 her family so we need to be really aware
iI0lJUqg7P8-00717-00196164-00196355 of that and that she may not want to
iI0lJUqg7P8-00718-00196356-00196532 seek formal assistance he alert at the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00719-00196533-00196637 time
iI0lJUqg7P8-00720-00196638-00196853 sometimes they just need someone to
iI0lJUqg7P8-00721-00196854-00197072 listen to them to try and validate the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00722-00197073-00197330 responses that perhaps what is happening
iI0lJUqg7P8-00723-00197331-00197609 to them is a wrong thing you know
iI0lJUqg7P8-00724-00197610-00197834 they're not really aware a lot of the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00725-00197835-00198224 time that in fact there is a law against
iI0lJUqg7P8-00726-00198225-00198439 family violence you know a lot of
iI0lJUqg7P8-00727-00198440-00198662 countries around the world they do not
iI0lJUqg7P8-00728-00198663-00198935 have laws in relation to family violence
iI0lJUqg7P8-00729-00198936-00199223 or the laws are minimal or again you
iI0lJUqg7P8-00730-00199224-00199418 know the men are protected to a great
iI0lJUqg7P8-00731-00199419-00199706 extent so we need to be aware of these
iI0lJUqg7P8-00732-00199707-00199943 things as well and as to how they're for
iI0lJUqg7P8-00733-00199944-00200129 the women may not be aware of their
iI0lJUqg7P8-00734-00200130-00200389 rights and of the law in Australia and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00735-00200390-00200666 so they may not want to seek formal
iI0lJUqg7P8-00736-00200667-00200867 assistance and so this is where we need
iI0lJUqg7P8-00737-00200868-00201122 to ask ourselves how then can we
iI0lJUqg7P8-00738-00201123-00201398 encourage somebody like rishika to seek
iI0lJUqg7P8-00739-00201399-00201665 assistance so if they went to a person
iI0lJUqg7P8-00740-00201666-00201863 like Joanne you know picked up on
iI0lJUqg7P8-00741-00201864-00202094 certain science who was offering certain
iI0lJUqg7P8-00742-00202095-00202379 kinds of assistance and recommending her
iI0lJUqg7P8-00743-00202380-00202664 to come back for another checkup but
iI0lJUqg7P8-00744-00202665-00202820 then if she didn't want to come back
iI0lJUqg7P8-00745-00202821-00203141 alone or if the husband said that he was
iI0lJUqg7P8-00746-00203142-00203360 not going to bring her alone how then
iI0lJUqg7P8-00747-00203361-00203567 could we actually encourage her to seek
iI0lJUqg7P8-00748-00203568-00203798 assistance I think what we would need to
iI0lJUqg7P8-00749-00203799-00204026 do is to provide her with pieces of
iI0lJUqg7P8-00750-00204027-00204217 information perhaps brochures
iI0lJUqg7P8-00751-00204218-00204530 information about helpful organization's
iI0lJUqg7P8-00752-00204531-00204939 resources contact numbers and also some
iI0lJUqg7P8-00753-00204940-00205184 definitions a description or family
iI0lJUqg7P8-00754-00205185-00205361 violence itself I think that would be
iI0lJUqg7P8-00755-00205362-00205583 really useful for them to go back and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00756-00205584-00206092 read in in terms of as a psychologist
iI0lJUqg7P8-00757-00206094-00206389 how I respond to something like this is
iI0lJUqg7P8-00758-00206390-00206648 I make an initial assessment of their
iI0lJUqg7P8-00759-00206648-00206831 mental health concerns I asked him a
iI0lJUqg7P8-00760-00206832-00206996 whole range of questions and try to
iI0lJUqg7P8-00761-00206996-00207233 gauge how they are performing in all
iI0lJUqg7P8-00762-00207234-00207421 aspects of their lives if they have
iI0lJUqg7P8-00763-00207423-00207569 children how they looking after their
iI0lJUqg7P8-00764-00207569-00207803 children how in fact perhaps their
iI0lJUqg7P8-00765-00207804-00208073 children might be suffering as well and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00766-00208073-00208378 they may not be so well the physical and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00767-00208379-00208685 psychological health may be of concern
iI0lJUqg7P8-00768-00208686-00208948 so I do try and perform an initial
iI0lJUqg7P8-00769-00208950-00209231 assessment what I usually realize is
iI0lJUqg7P8-00770-00209232-00209419 that a there are a whole range of
iI0lJUqg7P8-00771-00209421-00209603 factors that impact on their mental
iI0lJUqg7P8-00772-00209604-00209936 health and it's not so easy to just
iI0lJUqg7P8-00773-00209937-00210023 target
iI0lJUqg7P8-00774-00210023-00210244 you know only to try and for example
iI0lJUqg7P8-00775-00210246-00210535 provide counseling and say well this is
iI0lJUqg7P8-00776-00210536-00210704 what I'm going to do and you know to try
iI0lJUqg7P8-00777-00210705-00210898 and help build up their resilience it's
iI0lJUqg7P8-00778-00210900-00211160 not so much that there are many many
iI0lJUqg7P8-00779-00211161-00211433 factors and we need to try and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00780-00211434-00211775 understand those factors and in fact
iI0lJUqg7P8-00781-00211776-00211969 what I have realized is that in fact we
iI0lJUqg7P8-00782-00211971-00212153 cannot enhance their mental well-being
iI0lJUqg7P8-00783-00212154-00212378 unless those other matters are taken
iI0lJUqg7P8-00784-00212379-00212633 care of when I say other matters I mean
iI0lJUqg7P8-00785-00212634-00212852 something like basic necessities such as
iI0lJUqg7P8-00786-00212853-00213152 provision of food accommodation being
iI0lJUqg7P8-00787-00213153-00213305 able to stay in the country I'm
iI0lJUqg7P8-00788-00213306-00213551 currently assisting a woman whose visa
iI0lJUqg7P8-00789-00213552-00213806 runs out on Thursday and she needs to
iI0lJUqg7P8-00790-00213807-00214031 leave the government has told her this
iI0lJUqg7P8-00791-00214032-00214192 is an intervention that has been
iI0lJUqg7P8-00792-00214194-00214379 provided at the ministerial level and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00793-00214380-00214625 the minister immigration has told that
iI0lJUqg7P8-00794-00214626-00214775 she needs to leave the country by
iI0lJUqg7P8-00795-00214776-00215017 Thursday I've been coordinating for this
iI0lJUqg7P8-00796-00215019-00215171 class through the whole range of effort
iI0lJUqg7P8-00797-00215171-00215480 to try and get her to stay in the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00798-00215481-00215773 country we have found a way and we are
iI0lJUqg7P8-00799-00215775-00215927 submitting the application tomorrow
iI0lJUqg7P8-00800-00215928-00216296 morning and I am hopeful that's all I
iI0lJUqg7P8-00801-00216296-00216473 can do at this stage all of us can do at
iI0lJUqg7P8-00802-00216473-00216721 this stage I am hopeful that she will be
iI0lJUqg7P8-00803-00216723-00216967 able to stay beyond Thursday so there
iI0lJUqg7P8-00804-00216969-00217157 are many other factors that need to be
iI0lJUqg7P8-00805-00217158-00217483 taken care of usually prior to us only
iI0lJUqg7P8-00806-00217484-00217769 focusing on the mental well-being aspect
iI0lJUqg7P8-00807-00217769-00218087 and so this is what I try and do to see
iI0lJUqg7P8-00808-00218088-00218252 how I can assist with those other
iI0lJUqg7P8-00809-00218253-00218500 matters as well and i usually have
iI0lJUqg7P8-00810-00218501-00218767 contacts with the range of people who
iI0lJUqg7P8-00811-00218769-00219019 are able to assist but something like
iI0lJUqg7P8-00812-00219021-00219200 provision of food I just send out an
iI0lJUqg7P8-00813-00219201-00219323 email to all the people I know and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00814-00219323-00219646 Austin for donations if they can provide
iI0lJUqg7P8-00815-00219646-00219908 groceries for example or money for
iI0lJUqg7P8-00816-00219909-00220198 petrol and so on and usually people have
iI0lJUqg7P8-00817-00220200-00220367 been very responsive these are just
iI0lJUqg7P8-00818-00220367-00220648 individuals within the community they
iI0lJUqg7P8-00819-00220650-00220901 usually provide me like you know just a
iI0lJUqg7P8-00820-00220902-00221240 few weeks ago I sent out an email on
iI0lJUqg7P8-00821-00221241-00221441 Sunday afternoon by Monday night I had
iI0lJUqg7P8-00822-00221442-00221809 groceries that would have been enough
iI0lJUqg7P8-00823-00221810-00222107 for a month for the family so these the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00824-00222108-00222305 kinds of matters i'm talking about so
iI0lJUqg7P8-00825-00222306-00222632 when the urgent basic needs to be met we
iI0lJUqg7P8-00826-00222633-00222946 need to be careful and we need to assist
iI0lJUqg7P8-00827-00222948-00223144 that and we need to see how we can
iI0lJUqg7P8-00828-00223146-00223394 respond to that and I think what needs
iI0lJUqg7P8-00829-00223394-00223642 really happen here which will lead into
iI0lJUqg7P8-00830-00223644-00223967 my next slide is that we need to work
iI0lJUqg7P8-00831-00223967-00224252 collaboratively everyone together not
iI0lJUqg7P8-00832-00224253-00224444 just the medical professionals but I'm
iI0lJUqg7P8-00833-00224444-00224540 seeing people within the community
iI0lJUqg7P8-00834-00224541-00224998 people who are able to offer a whole
iI0lJUqg7P8-00835-00225000-00225259 range of other services everyone needs
iI0lJUqg7P8-00836-00225260-00225512 to Brealey work collaboratively so that
iI0lJUqg7P8-00837-00225513-00225815 we can understand the challenges we can
iI0lJUqg7P8-00838-00225816-00226073 meet those challenges and we can assist
iI0lJUqg7P8-00839-00226073-00226229 the people you know because there are
iI0lJUqg7P8-00840-00226230-00226544 real practical needs it's not enough for
iI0lJUqg7P8-00841-00226544-00226787 us to only speak about the theory yes we
iI0lJUqg7P8-00842-00226788-00227030 need evidence based practice for
iI0lJUqg7P8-00843-00227031-00227260 intervention to understand what family
iI0lJUqg7P8-00844-00227261-00227471 violence is but we also need to
iI0lJUqg7P8-00845-00227471-00227825 understand in terms of how the community
iI0lJUqg7P8-00846-00227826-00228056 actually needs our help right now and I
iI0lJUqg7P8-00847-00228057-00228409 think as professionals even for me as an
iI0lJUqg7P8-00848-00228410-00228598 academic for me what I see is that the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00849-00228600-00228737 translation of knowledge is very
iI0lJUqg7P8-00850-00228738-00229016 important yes we understand what family
iI0lJUqg7P8-00851-00229017-00229250 violence's and what interventions can do
iI0lJUqg7P8-00852-00229251-00229496 which affection which interventions are
iI0lJUqg7P8-00853-00229496-00229698 effective but then we need to really
iI0lJUqg7P8-00854-00229700-00230015 translate that into our practice and I
iI0lJUqg7P8-00855-00230016-00230194 think it's important for everyone to do
iI0lJUqg7P8-00856-00230196-00230465 that you know to try and do the best we
iI0lJUqg7P8-00857-00230466-00230692 can and I think there are so many
iI0lJUqg7P8-00858-00230694-00230912 resources out there some of them are
iI0lJUqg7P8-00859-00230913-00231125 being underutilized in fact a lot of
iI0lJUqg7P8-00860-00231126-00231457 them people just don't know where to go
iI0lJUqg7P8-00861-00231458-00231748 for help for me just by trying to assist
iI0lJUqg7P8-00862-00231750-00231902 each woman and each person's situation
iI0lJUqg7P8-00863-00231903-00232207 is so very different just become aware
iI0lJUqg7P8-00864-00232208-00232475 of the system so much more but there's
iI0lJUqg7P8-00865-00232476-00232642 always so much more than I am learning
iI0lJUqg7P8-00866-00232644-00232901 so I think everyone needs to really work
iI0lJUqg7P8-00867-00232902-00233117 collaboratively and I think in fact this
iI0lJUqg7P8-00868-00233117-00233296 is perhaps a great opportunity for us
iI0lJUqg7P8-00869-00233298-00233644 all to come together and understand what
iI0lJUqg7P8-00870-00233644-00233983 responses are available and how perhaps
iI0lJUqg7P8-00871-00233984-00234152 you know in fact if everyone could talk
iI0lJUqg7P8-00872-00234153-00234302 about the resources that they have
iI0lJUqg7P8-00873-00234303-00234532 available I think that would be great as
iI0lJUqg7P8-00874-00234533-00234832 well so over my for that we can all work
iI0lJUqg7P8-00875-00234833-00235037 together and really assist the people in
iI0lJUqg7P8-00876-00235038-00235285 need such as rishika and desean and the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00877-00235286-00235633 family day thank you thank you very much
iI0lJUqg7P8-00878-00235634-00236035 latter my pleasure and and thank you
iI0lJUqg7P8-00879-00236036-00236213 very much for making us think outside
iI0lJUqg7P8-00880-00236214-00236555 the square and outside the square of our
iI0lJUqg7P8-00881-00236556-00236707 particular discipline
iI0lJUqg7P8-00882-00236708-00236992 but also mentioning the collaboration
iI0lJUqg7P8-00883-00236994-00237121 between disciplines which is so
iI0lJUqg7P8-00884-00237122-00237569 important in in managing cases and now
iI0lJUqg7P8-00885-00237569-00237737 we're just going to move on to the ZN
iI0lJUqg7P8-00886-00237738-00238273 Braddock's presentation Vivian yes okay
iI0lJUqg7P8-00887-00238274-00238429 thank you Michael I just live your
iI0lJUqg7P8-00888-00238430-00238862 flight on thank you we go yeah I think
iI0lJUqg7P8-00889-00238863-00239071 certainly a beacon that have gone before
iI0lJUqg7P8-00890-00239072-00239245 me have talked about a lot of things
iI0lJUqg7P8-00891-00239246-00239410 that I was going to cover in a lot of
iI0lJUqg7P8-00892-00239411-00239602 really important things so some of the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00893-00239603-00239741 things I might cover fairly briefly
iI0lJUqg7P8-00894-00239742-00239952 because people ready to the end sorry
iI0lJUqg7P8-00895-00239953-00240229 the end sorry it the sand is just
iI0lJUqg7P8-00896-00240230-00240445 dropping out of it and if you can just
iI0lJUqg7P8-00897-00240446-00240610 move it closer to the skin on your on
iI0lJUqg7P8-00898-00240611-00240781 your on your cheek it'll it'll sound
iI0lJUqg7P8-00899-00240782-00240965 better thank you okay is that any better
iI0lJUqg7P8-00900-00240966-00241108 Michael yeah that's much better thing
iI0lJUqg7P8-00901-00241109-00241378 fantastic my apologies for that so look
iI0lJUqg7P8-00902-00241379-00241651 this client all this type of client we
iI0lJUqg7P8-00903-00241652-00241807 would see rishika she would have been
iI0lJUqg7P8-00904-00241808-00241975 referred to our service probably through
iI0lJUqg7P8-00905-00241976-00242194 a number of different sources possibly a
iI0lJUqg7P8-00906-00242196-00242500 GP possibly a friend of hers may have
iI0lJUqg7P8-00907-00242501-00242738 encouraged her to seek some help and I
iI0lJUqg7P8-00908-00242739-00242884 guess our starting point would be we're
iI0lJUqg7P8-00909-00242885-00242992 looking at doing a really good
iI0lJUqg7P8-00910-00242994-00243175 assessment considering what are the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00911-00243176-00243370 mental health concerns and presentations
iI0lJUqg7P8-00912-00243371-00243628 and certainly thinking about not just
iI0lJUqg7P8-00913-00243629-00243842 wish she gives the whole broader family
iI0lJUqg7P8-00914-00243842-00244054 that there are a number of issues for
iI0lJUqg7P8-00915-00244055-00244214 each of the members in this family
iI0lJUqg7P8-00916-00244215-00244483 rishika well she is the person who we
iI0lJUqg7P8-00917-00244484-00244666 see initially and hear about initially
iI0lJUqg7P8-00918-00244667-00244909 and certainly raises questions for me
iI0lJUqg7P8-00919-00244910-00245114 about is their depression or something
iI0lJUqg7P8-00920-00245115-00245312 else going on really needs to be looked
iI0lJUqg7P8-00921-00245313-00245617 at but so do the others in the family
iI0lJUqg7P8-00922-00245617-00245827 certainly the baby we need to think
iI0lJUqg7P8-00923-00245828-00245944 about whether or not there are issues
iI0lJUqg7P8-00924-00245946-00246244 around sleep whether or not the failure
iI0lJUqg7P8-00925-00246246-00246433 to thrive have some medical causes and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00926-00246434-00246892 concern baby who's not sleeping then
iI0lJUqg7P8-00927-00246894-00247099 it's going to be incredibly difficult to
iI0lJUqg7P8-00928-00247100-00247249 get sleep yourself and you're going to
iI0lJUqg7P8-00929-00247250-00247426 feel really lousy so those are some of
iI0lJUqg7P8-00930-00247427-00247531 the things that we need to think about
iI0lJUqg7P8-00931-00247532-00247747 both from a medical point of view in a
iI0lJUqg7P8-00932-00247748-00247991 mental health point of view I think it's
iI0lJUqg7P8-00933-00247992-00248114 very important when we're thinking about
iI0lJUqg7P8-00934-00248115-00248467 behind lee in this couple is looking at
iI0lJUqg7P8-00935-00248469-00248752 some of the personal history as well we
iI0lJUqg7P8-00936-00248753-00248953 know they've just come to Australia we
iI0lJUqg7P8-00937-00248954-00249076 know that there's an arranged marriage
iI0lJUqg7P8-00938-00249077-00249280 but we don't know what their goals and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00939-00249281-00249494 their hopes and their dreams are we get
iI0lJUqg7P8-00940-00249494-00249727 a bit of a sense for rishika that she
iI0lJUqg7P8-00941-00249728-00249994 had a career before she had a baby and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00942-00249996-00250088 while she loves this
iI0lJUqg7P8-00943-00250089-00250301 maybe obviously that whole process of
iI0lJUqg7P8-00944-00250302-00250571 having a baby giving up a career can be
iI0lJUqg7P8-00945-00250571-00250775 really difficult and we certainly have
iI0lJUqg7P8-00946-00250776-00251096 heard about you Sean and the fact that
iI0lJUqg7P8-00947-00251096-00251258 he's obviously experiencing lots of
iI0lJUqg7P8-00948-00251259-00251480 pressures around trying to raise a young
iI0lJUqg7P8-00949-00251481-00251741 family thinking about his study and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00950-00251742-00252041 trying to do welfare and also a lot of
iI0lJUqg7P8-00951-00252042-00252182 the financial pressures I think there's
iI0lJUqg7P8-00952-00252183-00252317 some real indication that there may be
iI0lJUqg7P8-00953-00252317-00252635 some significant financial pressures not
iI0lJUqg7P8-00954-00252636-00252965 only are they here in Australia they're
iI0lJUqg7P8-00955-00252966-00253121 trying to support themselves by one
iI0lJUqg7P8-00956-00253121-00253373 person studies they're raising a new
iI0lJUqg7P8-00957-00253373-00253610 baby what we don't know at the moment is
iI0lJUqg7P8-00958-00253611-00253781 what sort of depths does this family
iI0lJUqg7P8-00959-00253782-00254090 have both to come to Australia and to be
iI0lJUqg7P8-00960-00254091-00254258 able to study in Australia as
iI0lJUqg7P8-00961-00254259-00254417 international students that whole
iI0lJUqg7P8-00962-00254417-00254971 process is exceptionally expensive
iI0lJUqg7P8-00963-00254971-00255164 alright I'll just get myself together
iI0lJUqg7P8-00964-00255165-00255356 here and move across to the next slide I
iI0lJUqg7P8-00965-00255357-00255521 want to talk a little bit about some of
iI0lJUqg7P8-00966-00255521-00255689 the cultural considerations for this
iI0lJUqg7P8-00967-00255690-00255898 family and when I'm looking at an
iI0lJUqg7P8-00968-00255900-00256052 interesting with this family some of the
iI0lJUqg7P8-00969-00256053-00256192 things that I really want to look at
iI0lJUqg7P8-00970-00256194-00256396 what are their expectations of
iI0lJUqg7P8-00971-00256398-00256700 themselves so we know that probably is
iI0lJUqg7P8-00972-00256701-00256955 shown is very committed and dedicated to
iI0lJUqg7P8-00973-00256956-00257162 studying and doing really well there and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00974-00257163-00257360 probably has that expectation of himself
iI0lJUqg7P8-00975-00257361-00257588 I suspect we've also got two parents
iI0lJUqg7P8-00976-00257589-00257780 that are incredibly dedicated to their
iI0lJUqg7P8-00977-00257781-00258038 little baby and want to be good parents
iI0lJUqg7P8-00978-00258039-00258257 I suspect also something else that we
iI0lJUqg7P8-00979-00258258-00258442 need to think about in relation to their
iI0lJUqg7P8-00980-00258444-00258680 expectations of themselves are are they
iI0lJUqg7P8-00981-00258681-00258848 being good children that they probably
iI0lJUqg7P8-00982-00258848-00259187 have extended family that they have
iI0lJUqg7P8-00983-00259188-00259364 responsibilities for and what are those
iI0lJUqg7P8-00984-00259365-00259553 responsibilities and how are they
iI0lJUqg7P8-00985-00259554-00259727 impacting on this family at the moment
iI0lJUqg7P8-00986-00259728-00260033 as well in look at some of those things
iI0lJUqg7P8-00987-00260034-00260183 we also need to think about the broader
iI0lJUqg7P8-00988-00260184-00260402 extended family we know the family are
iI0lJUqg7P8-00989-00260403-00260606 in India we know they're unable to come
iI0lJUqg7P8-00990-00260607-00260801 out here and help this family but they
iI0lJUqg7P8-00991-00260802-00261017 are looking for solutions as well and
iI0lJUqg7P8-00992-00261017-00261227 one of their solutions is the idea of
iI0lJUqg7P8-00993-00261228-00261464 maybe the baby comes home to India we
iI0lJUqg7P8-00994-00261465-00261662 look after the baby you focus on your
iI0lJUqg7P8-00995-00261663-00262046 studies and your work which can sound on
iI0lJUqg7P8-00996-00262046-00262214 the surface of it are a really kind of
iI0lJUqg7P8-00997-00262215-00262529 distressing idea but not necessarily
iI0lJUqg7P8-00998-00262530-00262742 this may be something that it is going
iI0lJUqg7P8-00999-00262743-00262910 to sleep for them and work for them and
iI0lJUqg7P8-01000-00262911-00263162 we need to keep that in mind so we need
iI0lJUqg7P8-01001-00263163-00263273 to think about sort of some of those
iI0lJUqg7P8-01002-00263274-00263438 expectations
iI0lJUqg7P8-01003-00263439-00263762 on from a non li extended family we also
iI0lJUqg7P8-01004-00263763-00264010 need to think about particularly is what
iI0lJUqg7P8-01005-00264011-00264157 is their explanation about what's
iI0lJUqg7P8-01006-00264158-00264403 happening if we say that we think
iI0lJUqg7P8-01007-00264404-00264652 rishika has a depression what is it her
iI0lJUqg7P8-01008-00264653-00264869 understanding and her explanation about
iI0lJUqg7P8-01009-00264870-00265156 what is happening for her she may have a
iI0lJUqg7P8-01010-00265157-00265373 very different explanation about what is
iI0lJUqg7P8-01011-00265374-00265670 the causes of how she's feeling and we
iI0lJUqg7P8-01012-00265671-00265882 need to keep those in mind we also need
iI0lJUqg7P8-01013-00265883-00266018 to think about and talk with her about
iI0lJUqg7P8-01014-00266019-00266294 if we think she has a depression what is
iI0lJUqg7P8-01015-00266295-00266513 the stigma associated to shop for her
iI0lJUqg7P8-01016-00266514-00266701 she may not want to come and see a
iI0lJUqg7P8-01017-00266702-00266878 mental health service it may be too
iI0lJUqg7P8-01018-00266879-00267098 shameful it may be too embarrassing she
iI0lJUqg7P8-01019-00267099-00267242 may not want to seek out assistance
iI0lJUqg7P8-01020-00267243-00267437 around the violence because it may be
iI0lJUqg7P8-01021-00267438-00267749 too shameful and difficult and in
iI0lJUqg7P8-01022-00267750-00268037 talking with them about her explanation
iI0lJUqg7P8-01023-00268038-00268190 of what's happening for her we need to
iI0lJUqg7P8-01024-00268191-00268388 build an understanding about what are
iI0lJUqg7P8-01025-00268389-00268562 her expectations and what is her
iI0lJUqg7P8-01026-00268563-00268697 understanding about how you raise
iI0lJUqg7P8-01027-00268698-00269069 children is it the role of just her as a
iI0lJUqg7P8-01028-00269070-00269270 mum or is it that she would expect
iI0lJUqg7P8-01029-00269271-00269462 traditionally that she would have her
iI0lJUqg7P8-01030-00269463-00269699 extended family supporting her and one
iI0lJUqg7P8-01031-00269700-00269873 of her struggles as the moment it is
iI0lJUqg7P8-01032-00269874-00270100 that they're not here to do it and she's
iI0lJUqg7P8-01033-00270101-00270397 doing it alone so what is her
iI0lJUqg7P8-01034-00270398-00270665 explanation of how she can cope at the
iI0lJUqg7P8-01035-00270666-00270848 moment as well is really important I
iI0lJUqg7P8-01036-00270849-00271027 think we've talked a lot about the
iI0lJUqg7P8-01037-00271028-00271199 domestic violence night and it's very
iI0lJUqg7P8-01038-00271200-00271402 important and we need to understand
iI0lJUqg7P8-01039-00271403-00271621 which what is her explanation of that
iI0lJUqg7P8-01040-00271622-00271906 and finally we need to think about
iI0lJUqg7P8-01041-00271907-00272237 language barriers is the language of
iI0lJUqg7P8-01042-00272238-00272434 area for this family and particularly
iI0lJUqg7P8-01043-00272435-00272602 when we're doing things like counseling
iI0lJUqg7P8-01044-00272603-00272873 mental health assessments even if people
iI0lJUqg7P8-01045-00272874-00273116 have a good level of English it may not
iI0lJUqg7P8-01046-00273117-00273314 be enough English to be able to really
iI0lJUqg7P8-01047-00273315-00273542 participate in counseling or to have a
iI0lJUqg7P8-01048-00273543-00273760 really good assessment so while they may
iI0lJUqg7P8-01049-00273761-00273938 have enough conversational English I
iI0lJUqg7P8-01050-00273939-00274156 might use an interpreter to be able to
iI0lJUqg7P8-01051-00274157-00274640 assist with that process moving right
iI0lJUqg7P8-01052-00274641-00274894 along
iI0lJUqg7P8-01053-00274895-00275050 okay just thinking about some of the
iI0lJUqg7P8-01054-00275051-00275293 social considerations this family's
iI0lJUqg7P8-01055-00275294-00275455 immigration status is something that we
iI0lJUqg7P8-01056-00275456-00275653 need to think about we know that they're
iI0lJUqg7P8-01057-00275654-00275863 here is students I don't know a lot
iI0lJUqg7P8-01058-00275864-00276028 about the provisions of the student
iI0lJUqg7P8-01059-00276029-00276282 visas but I suspect and I would need to
iI0lJUqg7P8-01060-00276283-00276517 look into what are their rights to
iI0lJUqg7P8-01061-00276518-00276730 access service this family maybe
iI0lJUqg7P8-01062-00276731-00276937 Medicare and eligible which makes them
iI0lJUqg7P8-01063-00276938-00277165 ineligible to a whole bunch of services
iI0lJUqg7P8-01064-00277166-00277387 and suddenly makes the cost of seeing a
iI0lJUqg7P8-01065-00277388-00277696 GP getting medication seeing support
iI0lJUqg7P8-01066-00277697-00278047 services prohibitively expensive so for
iI0lJUqg7P8-01067-00278048-00278449 this family if we said rishika is an
iI0lJUqg7P8-01068-00278450-00278704 antidepressant that made you too
iI0lJUqg7P8-01069-00278705-00278866 expensive if we're looking at putting on
iI0lJUqg7P8-01070-00278867-00279013 a course of antidepressant for six
iI0lJUqg7P8-01071-00279014-00279196 months we need to think about those
iI0lJUqg7P8-01072-00279197-00279459 things really carefully also in relation
iI0lJUqg7P8-01073-00279460-00279601 to this family we need to think about
iI0lJUqg7P8-01074-00279602-00279700 what are the child protection
iI0lJUqg7P8-01075-00279701-00279979 obligations we know that an issue is
iI0lJUqg7P8-01076-00279980-00280189 small we know she's not sleeping
iI0lJUqg7P8-01077-00280190-00280390 particularly well we need to get to the
iI0lJUqg7P8-01078-00280391-00280648 bottom of that and what is going on and
iI0lJUqg7P8-01079-00280649-00280801 see whether or not there are concerns
iI0lJUqg7P8-01080-00280802-00281017 for this baby we also need to think
iI0lJUqg7P8-01081-00281018-00281281 about the domestic violence well what
iI0lJUqg7P8-01082-00281282-00281521 sort of supports does this woman need in
iI0lJUqg7P8-01083-00281522-00281749 relation to her immigration status again
iI0lJUqg7P8-01084-00281750-00281866 we'd probably have to think about
iI0lJUqg7P8-01085-00281867-00282046 whether or not there are domestic
iI0lJUqg7P8-01086-00282047-00282313 violence provisions for her in her visa
iI0lJUqg7P8-01087-00282314-00282594 so for some people who have visas
iI0lJUqg7P8-01088-00282595-00282799 temporary visas here in Australia they
iI0lJUqg7P8-01089-00282800-00283000 may be able to access domestic violence
iI0lJUqg7P8-01090-00283001-00283189 provisions in that but allow them to
iI0lJUqg7P8-01091-00283190-00283399 leave a partner but actually they
iI0lJUqg7P8-01092-00283400-00283645 understand Australia whether that exists
iI0lJUqg7P8-01093-00283646-00283870 for somebody on a student visa I'm not
iI0lJUqg7P8-01094-00283871-00284140 sure and we'd have to check into it then
iI0lJUqg7P8-01095-00284141-00284614 we do believe in I'm sorry for for for
iI0lJUqg7P8-01096-00284615-00284805 one reason or another we're running way
iI0lJUqg7P8-01097-00284806-00285148 over time at the moment so may I ask you
iI0lJUqg7P8-01098-00285149-00285316 just to have a look through your last
iI0lJUqg7P8-01099-00285317-00285613 two slides and and just speak for about
iI0lJUqg7P8-01100-00285614-00285909 a minute just to the most important as
iI0lJUqg7P8-01101-00285910-00286090 something else that you have to make and
iI0lJUqg7P8-01102-00286091-00286218 then we can go straight into the
iI0lJUqg7P8-01103-00286219-00286462 questions that we need to ask at each
iI0lJUqg7P8-01104-00286463-00286632 other in the panel in relation to
iI0lJUqg7P8-01105-00286633-00286951 collaboration absolutely so yes so
iI0lJUqg7P8-01106-00286952-00287106 looking at those formula in store for
iI0lJUqg7P8-01107-00287107-00287310 more supports um I think later has been
iI0lJUqg7P8-01108-00287311-00287457 a little really lovely job about talking
iI0lJUqg7P8-01109-00287458-00287593 about how she does that informally
iI0lJUqg7P8-01110-00287594-00287818 particularly for people who aren't able
iI0lJUqg7P8-01111-00287819-00288013 to access services because of the visa
iI0lJUqg7P8-01112-00288014-00288242 status that's going to be really
iI0lJUqg7P8-01113-00288243-00288425 critically important so the things that
iI0lJUqg7P8-01114-00288426-00288580 I'd be thinking about for ongoing care
iI0lJUqg7P8-01115-00288581-00288805 we need to think about health care for
iI0lJUqg7P8-01116-00288806-00289030 the baby for the mum we need to think
iI0lJUqg7P8-01117-00289031-00289343 about a mother and baby clinic we need
iI0lJUqg7P8-01118-00289344-00289601 to think about a pediatric review mental
iI0lJUqg7P8-01119-00289602-00289933 health care again issues around access
iI0lJUqg7P8-01120-00289934-00290114 to Medicare are going to be really
iI0lJUqg7P8-01121-00290115-00290345 important if there is an access to
iI0lJUqg7P8-01122-00290346-00290627 Medicare our standard options and really
iI0lJUqg7P8-01123-00290628-00290747 going to have to be scrutinized a lot
iI0lJUqg7P8-01124-00290748-00291007 more closely and looking at pro bono
iI0lJUqg7P8-01125-00291008-00291197 options or cheaper options that people
iI0lJUqg7P8-01126-00291198-00291467 can access informal supports are going
iI0lJUqg7P8-01127-00291468-00291716 to be really important and also too I
iI0lJUqg7P8-01128-00291717-00291971 think looking at some legal options and
iI0lJUqg7P8-01129-00291972-00292190 legal advice so here in Queensland we
iI0lJUqg7P8-01130-00292191-00292391 have a community organization called
iI0lJUqg7P8-01131-00292392-00292523 rails that would probably be able to
iI0lJUqg7P8-01132-00292524-00292775 assist really nicely for this woman and
iI0lJUqg7P8-01133-00292776-00292967 her child but i'll leave it there
iI0lJUqg7P8-01134-00292968-00293264 Michael oh look at that that has just
iI0lJUqg7P8-01135-00293265-00293671 been a great overall as social work and
iI0lJUqg7P8-01136-00293672-00294020 aspect to this case and it it actually
iI0lJUqg7P8-01137-00294021-00294314 and mirrors what much of what latter was
iI0lJUqg7P8-01138-00294315-00294655 saying and I know I'm so grateful for it
iI0lJUqg7P8-01139-00294656-00294947 that I you had a question for Harry in
iI0lJUqg7P8-01140-00294948-00295367 relation to therapy for her she could I
iI0lJUqg7P8-01141-00295368-00296029 ask you to quickly ask that question you
iI0lJUqg7P8-01142-00296030-00296312 wanted me to ask the question you had a
iI0lJUqg7P8-01143-00296313-00296438 question that you were going to ask
iI0lJUqg7P8-01144-00296439-00296704 Carrie or if you like we discussed this
iI0lJUqg7P8-01145-00296705-00296939 area I cannot I really bore you with you
iI0lJUqg7P8-01146-00296940-00297125 Lauren oh that's fine i'm happy to ask
iI0lJUqg7P8-01147-00297126-00297494 her hairy Harry yes I would like to ask
iI0lJUqg7P8-01148-00297495-00297812 you please in terms of which therapy
iI0lJUqg7P8-01149-00297813-00298135 would you prescribe to the client what I
iI0lJUqg7P8-01150-00298136-00298493 have noticed in most situations when the
iI0lJUqg7P8-01151-00298494-00298793 women are referred by a GP to a
iI0lJUqg7P8-01152-00298794-00299048 psychiatrist they usually prescribed
iI0lJUqg7P8-01153-00299049-00299537 anti depression medication and this may
iI0lJUqg7P8-01154-00299538-00299806 not really address a whole range of
iI0lJUqg7P8-01155-00299807-00300082 issues yes they may be experiencing
iI0lJUqg7P8-01156-00300083-00300358 depression and it might be one aspect
iI0lJUqg7P8-01157-00300359-00300617 however I was just wondering if there
iI0lJUqg7P8-01158-00300618-00300827 are other alternative forms of therapy
iI0lJUqg7P8-01159-00300828-00301123 that you might suggest to the women
iI0lJUqg7P8-01160-00301124-00301456 there are lots of there are lots of
iI0lJUqg7P8-01161-00301457-00301638 alternatives latter
iI0lJUqg7P8-01162-00301639-00301962 like like with everything else if the if
iI0lJUqg7P8-01163-00301963-00302209 the main contributor to the depression
iI0lJUqg7P8-01164-00302210-00302571 is the problems in the family or family
iI0lJUqg7P8-01165-00302572-00302943 violence or other such factors then they
iI0lJUqg7P8-01166-00302944-00303182 need to be dealt with I think the
iI0lJUqg7P8-01167-00303183-00303546 question of whether medication
iI0lJUqg7P8-01168-00303547-00303707 antidepressant or other sorts of
iI0lJUqg7P8-01169-00303708-00303963 medication is a clinical judgment that's
iI0lJUqg7P8-01170-00303964-00304130 made but it's certainly not the first
iI0lJUqg7P8-01171-00304131-00304457 thing that should come to mind and for
iI0lJUqg7P8-01172-00304458-00304719 this particular person that we're
iI0lJUqg7P8-01173-00304720-00304944 discussing it's way too early to be
iI0lJUqg7P8-01174-00304945-00305180 thinking about any kind of specific
iI0lJUqg7P8-01175-00305181-00305388 treatment there's a lot of work to do
iI0lJUqg7P8-01176-00305389-00305691 before getting to the point of making a
iI0lJUqg7P8-01177-00305692-00305895 decision about whether specific
iI0lJUqg7P8-01178-00305896-00306141 psychiatric treatment is necessary and
iI0lJUqg7P8-01179-00306142-00306410 then what kind of treatment is most
iI0lJUqg7P8-01180-00306411-00306707 appropriate thanks very much Harry
iI0lJUqg7P8-01181-00306708-00306926 Vivian I noticed that you had a question
iI0lJUqg7P8-01182-00306927-00307164 as well that you might throw open to the
iI0lJUqg7P8-01183-00307165-00307425 whole panel and in relation to working
iI0lJUqg7P8-01184-00307426-00307671 with this mom and in that
iI0lJUqg7P8-01185-00307672-00307904 antidepressants or psychotherapy may not
iI0lJUqg7P8-01186-00307905-00308199 be what you want could you could you
iI0lJUqg7P8-01187-00308200-00308487 pose that question yes absolutely so my
iI0lJUqg7P8-01188-00308488-00308675 question is you've been working with
iI0lJUqg7P8-01189-00308676-00308814 this family and working with them we
iI0lJUqg7P8-01190-00308815-00309083 find that we think she has a depression
iI0lJUqg7P8-01191-00309084-00309270 and we talked with her about that and
iI0lJUqg7P8-01192-00309271-00309414 talk about options for therapies for
iI0lJUqg7P8-01193-00309415-00309674 depression and in explaining to that
iI0lJUqg7P8-01194-00309675-00309875 what would we do if she said look I
iI0lJUqg7P8-01195-00309876-00310001 don't think my problem is a mental
iI0lJUqg7P8-01196-00310002-00310226 illness i actually think my problem i'm
iI0lJUqg7P8-01197-00310227-00310392 experiencing is because i'm being
iI0lJUqg7P8-01198-00310393-00310529 punished for something I've done in the
iI0lJUqg7P8-01199-00310530-00310802 past some sort of spin how do we start
iI0lJUqg7P8-01200-00310803-00311033 working with her when her explanatory
iI0lJUqg7P8-01201-00311034-00311217 model is actually very different
iI0lJUqg7P8-01202-00311218-00311456 tomorrow Joanne could I put that
iI0lJUqg7P8-01203-00311457-00311712 question please that is such a great
iI0lJUqg7P8-01204-00311713-00311924 question I've had that question and I
iI0lJUqg7P8-01205-00311925-00312093 think it's really interesting I think
iI0lJUqg7P8-01206-00312094-00312423 the first thing is to really explore her
iI0lJUqg7P8-01207-00312424-00312701 explanatory model and really get some
iI0lJUqg7P8-01208-00312702-00313119 detail about how she sees it and how she
iI0lJUqg7P8-01209-00313120-00313502 thinks it's affecting her and then go
iI0lJUqg7P8-01210-00313503-00313874 from there into how is this managed in
iI0lJUqg7P8-01211-00313875-00314132 your community if someone if it there
iI0lJUqg7P8-01212-00314133-00314288 was someone else in a similar situation
iI0lJUqg7P8-01213-00314289-00314627 how serious would the problem be how
iI0lJUqg7P8-01214-00314628-00314946 would you deal with it what needs to be
iI0lJUqg7P8-01215-00314947-00315028 done
iI0lJUqg7P8-01216-00315029-00315266 and occasionally people have found great
iI0lJUqg7P8-01217-00315267-00315616 relief when these sorts of problems
iI0lJUqg7P8-01218-00315617-00315991 actually have been dealt with in a
iI0lJUqg7P8-01219-00315992-00316150 cultural context in the Australian
iI0lJUqg7P8-01220-00316151-00316393 community people have had profound
iI0lJUqg7P8-01221-00316394-00316618 mental health release so we must take it
iI0lJUqg7P8-01222-00316619-00317080 very very seriously so could I ask the
iI0lJUqg7P8-01223-00317081-00317391 panel then would there be a role for
iI0lJUqg7P8-01224-00317392-00317605 collaboration between the different
iI0lJUqg7P8-01225-00317606-00317947 disciplines to have this more open
iI0lJUqg7P8-01226-00317948-00318334 approach rather than looking at each
iI0lJUqg7P8-01227-00318335-00318539 discipline as being the source of
iI0lJUqg7P8-01228-00318540-00319060 specific expertise if I might comment
iI0lJUqg7P8-01229-00319061-00319294 Michael life there's absolutely a role
iI0lJUqg7P8-01230-00319295-00319735 for collaboration the the problems in in
iI0lJUqg7P8-01231-00319736-00320041 this particular family social problems
iI0lJUqg7P8-01232-00320042-00320308 there there there are there may be
iI0lJUqg7P8-01233-00320309-00320540 medical problems there may be
iI0lJUqg7P8-01234-00320541-00320719 significant psychological psychiatric
iI0lJUqg7P8-01235-00320720-00321160 problems and I think it's likely like
iI0lJUqg7P8-01236-00321161-00321318 with everything else if we can identify
iI0lJUqg7P8-01237-00321319-00321508 what are the factors that are
iI0lJUqg7P8-01238-00321509-00321826 contributing to distress dysfunction
iI0lJUqg7P8-01239-00321827-00322088 illness then those things need to be
iI0lJUqg7P8-01240-00322089-00322228 dealt with and in this case they're
iI0lJUqg7P8-01241-00322229-00322468 mostly social they're mostly social
iI0lJUqg7P8-01242-00322469-00322750 issues so if they've got really serious
iI0lJUqg7P8-01243-00322751-00322951 financial problems that's going to need
iI0lJUqg7P8-01244-00322952-00323179 to be dealt with somehow if they've got
iI0lJUqg7P8-01245-00323180-00323390 relationship problems then family
iI0lJUqg7P8-01246-00323391-00323629 functioning so the psychology of the
iI0lJUqg7P8-01247-00323630-00323866 family needs to be dealt with if it
iI0lJUqg7P8-01248-00323867-00324297 turns out that that the mother has a
iI0lJUqg7P8-01249-00324298-00324614 significant depression for which
iI0lJUqg7P8-01250-00324615-00324841 psychological and social approaches are
iI0lJUqg7P8-01251-00324842-00325033 not going to be sufficient then it may
iI0lJUqg7P8-01252-00325034-00325324 be that that some kind of a medical
iI0lJUqg7P8-01253-00325325-00325541 approach needs to be taken but as I
iI0lJUqg7P8-01254-00325542-00325717 mentioned before I think that's a long
iI0lJUqg7P8-01255-00325718-00325951 way down the track and in the
iI0lJUqg7P8-01256-00325952-00326254 presentation in the case there isn't
iI0lJUqg7P8-01257-00326255-00326473 really a lot to suggest that she has a
iI0lJUqg7P8-01258-00326474-00326749 very severe depression so it's a
iI0lJUqg7P8-01259-00326750-00326932 psychological and social issues that
iI0lJUqg7P8-01260-00326933-00327118 need to be dealt with first as far as
iI0lJUqg7P8-01261-00327119-00327466 she's concerned as well as the the
iI0lJUqg7P8-01262-00327467-00327740 issues of ensuring her safety in the
iI0lJUqg7P8-01263-00327741-00328029 child safety
iI0lJUqg7P8-01264-00328030-00328227 thanks very much Harry and then just
iI0lJUqg7P8-01265-00328228-00328377 returning to you later i can give you
iI0lJUqg7P8-01266-00328378-00328754 two minutes to discuss therapy and
iI0lJUqg7P8-01267-00328755-00328974 because you're you're actually dealing
iI0lJUqg7P8-01268-00328975-00329601 with it on a daily basis yeah so in
iI0lJUqg7P8-01269-00329602-00329895 terms of therapy yes we do need to
iI0lJUqg7P8-01270-00329896-00330168 understand the person's background and
iI0lJUqg7P8-01271-00330169-00330432 they may have a whole range of spiritual
iI0lJUqg7P8-01272-00330433-00330750 beliefs and we do need to respect those
iI0lJUqg7P8-01273-00330751-00331077 as well however we do need to inform
iI0lJUqg7P8-01274-00331078-00331296 them that apart from the spiritual
iI0lJUqg7P8-01275-00331297-00331542 beliefs that we would like to validate
iI0lJUqg7P8-01276-00331543-00331791 their experiences I think we need to
iI0lJUqg7P8-01277-00331792-00332094 inform them and educate them about what
iI0lJUqg7P8-01278-00332095-00332397 family violence is and that in fact it
iI0lJUqg7P8-01279-00332398-00332778 is not permissible by the law so we need
iI0lJUqg7P8-01280-00332779-00333186 to firstly try and you know I think they
iI0lJUqg7P8-01281-00333187-00333342 have some understanding that they are
iI0lJUqg7P8-01282-00333343-00333495 going through abuse but they do not have
iI0lJUqg7P8-01283-00333496-00333798 a term for it we need to inform them
iI0lJUqg7P8-01284-00333799-00334035 that there is a term for it but also the
iI0lJUqg7P8-01285-00334036-00334248 federal laws in this country that would
iI0lJUqg7P8-01286-00334249-00334695 enable them to be protected and so we
iI0lJUqg7P8-01287-00334696-00334908 need to inform them some of the basics
iI0lJUqg7P8-01288-00334909-00335154 first before actually I think going into
iI0lJUqg7P8-01289-00335155-00335463 the therapy and we need to understand
iI0lJUqg7P8-01290-00335464-00335664 again the family's perspective you know
iI0lJUqg7P8-01291-00335665-00335904 they may again not want to come in for
iI0lJUqg7P8-01292-00335905-00336216 long-term therapy they may you know just
iI0lJUqg7P8-01293-00336217-00336453 want to speak on an occasional basis
iI0lJUqg7P8-01294-00336454-00336900 perhaps until the next you know they say
iI0lJUqg7P8-01295-00336901-00337230 physical abuse occurs so we need to also
iI0lJUqg7P8-01296-00337231-00337521 give them the option of coming back to
iI0lJUqg7P8-01297-00337522-00337803 us when they are comfortable too but
iI0lJUqg7P8-01298-00337804-00337974 then informing them that there are these
iI0lJUqg7P8-01299-00337975-00338295 resources available should they need to
iI0lJUqg7P8-01300-00338296-00338748 access them thank you very much latter
iI0lJUqg7P8-01301-00338749-00339186 and unfortunately time is moving on so I
iI0lJUqg7P8-01302-00339187-00339369 will be moving shortly on for
iI0lJUqg7P8-01303-00339370-00339507 affirmation from each of our panelists
iI0lJUqg7P8-01304-00339508-00339768 and you're allowed on each two minutes
iI0lJUqg7P8-01305-00339769-00340076 to some eight and I will be quite
iI0lJUqg7P8-01306-00340077-00340380 stringent on that and I make no
iI0lJUqg7P8-01307-00340381-00340542 apologies for letting the panelists
iI0lJUqg7P8-01308-00340543-00340978 speak and longer than normal and I think
iI0lJUqg7P8-01309-00340979-00341161 the this webinar is all about
iI0lJUqg7P8-01310-00341162-00341350 collaboration and each and every
iI0lJUqg7P8-01311-00341351-00341563 presentation had touched on
iI0lJUqg7P8-01312-00341564-00341845 collaboration so without further ado I'm
iI0lJUqg7P8-01313-00341846-00342094 just going to go back in in the order of
iI0lJUqg7P8-01314-00342095-00342349 presentation again and to Joanne would
iI0lJUqg7P8-01315-00342350-00342655 you like to just some eight just for two
iI0lJUqg7P8-01316-00342656-00343009 minutes just some get one of you yep
iI0lJUqg7P8-01317-00343010-00343321 thanks Michael my my summary would be
iI0lJUqg7P8-01318-00343322-00343645 first of all to try to engage the family
iI0lJUqg7P8-01319-00343646-00343882 as much as possible both partners using
iI0lJUqg7P8-01320-00343883-00344032 all the resources of the practice at
iI0lJUqg7P8-01321-00344033-00344386 one's disposal perhaps a male GP four
iI0lJUqg7P8-01322-00344387-00344755 ish am using physical health check to
iI0lJUqg7P8-01323-00344756-00345118 getting engaged for rishika just
iI0lJUqg7P8-01324-00345119-00345388 becoming a friend becoming somebody that
iI0lJUqg7P8-01325-00345389-00345670 a place that she can come to and then
iI0lJUqg7P8-01326-00345671-00345895 the other thing is very much the
iI0lJUqg7P8-01327-00345896-00346132 importance of kindness that when you
iI0lJUqg7P8-01328-00346133-00346372 approach people who are struggling like
iI0lJUqg7P8-01329-00346373-00346678 this with kindness and competence a
iI0lJUqg7P8-01330-00346679-00346915 little seed can be planted and things
iI0lJUqg7P8-01331-00346916-00347377 may develop from there that was lovely I
iI0lJUqg7P8-01332-00347378-00347650 think that's extremely important thank
iI0lJUqg7P8-01333-00347651-00347857 you very much Harry would you like to
iI0lJUqg7P8-01334-00347858-00348175 sum up for 42 minutes please thanks
iI0lJUqg7P8-01335-00348176-00348427 Michael the the situation that's
iI0lJUqg7P8-01336-00348428-00348862 described in this case is unfortunately
iI0lJUqg7P8-01337-00348863-00349204 very common and I think anybody who
iI0lJUqg7P8-01338-00349205-00349438 deals with either in a primary care
iI0lJUqg7P8-01339-00349439-00349687 setting or in social support settings
iI0lJUqg7P8-01340-00349688-00350275 will know that that this is a an issue
iI0lJUqg7P8-01341-00350276-00350557 in the community which has been largely
iI0lJUqg7P8-01342-00350558-00350854 hidden in some immigrant communities
iI0lJUqg7P8-01343-00350855-00351183 it's more invisible than in others and
iI0lJUqg7P8-01344-00351184-00351502 we've spoken a little bit about the fact
iI0lJUqg7P8-01345-00351503-00351784 that the woman may be reluctant she may
iI0lJUqg7P8-01346-00351785-00351994 not be able to talk about the
iI0lJUqg7P8-01347-00351995-00352261 possibility of violence I think we need
iI0lJUqg7P8-01348-00352262-00352534 to keep in mind a set of priorities we
iI0lJUqg7P8-01349-00352535-00352756 need to be very clear about assessing
iI0lJUqg7P8-01350-00352757-00353134 risk and particularly risk to safety if
iI0lJUqg7P8-01351-00353135-00353380 there is any concern and I see a number
iI0lJUqg7P8-01352-00353381-00353626 of comments from the participants in the
iI0lJUqg7P8-01353-00353627-00353871 webinar about why not go to the police
iI0lJUqg7P8-01354-00353872-00354172 there is there are mandatory reporting
iI0lJUqg7P8-01355-00354173-00354239 rules for the
iI0lJUqg7P8-01356-00354240-00354532 mastic violence the situation I think is
iI0lJUqg7P8-01357-00354533-00354709 a little more complex in that in that
iI0lJUqg7P8-01358-00354710-00355019 intervention which happens to early may
iI0lJUqg7P8-01359-00355020-00355234 in fact make the situation very much
iI0lJUqg7P8-01360-00355235-00355528 work very much worse and it may be that
iI0lJUqg7P8-01361-00355529-00355847 the person is at even greater risk so we
iI0lJUqg7P8-01362-00355848-00356099 need to keep in mind first the issue of
iI0lJUqg7P8-01363-00356100-00356423 safety and then move in a methodical way
iI0lJUqg7P8-01364-00356424-00356672 through to all of the other assessments
iI0lJUqg7P8-01365-00356673-00357122 that have been discussed thanks very
iI0lJUqg7P8-01366-00357123-00357484 much Harry laughter and I'd like you to
iI0lJUqg7P8-01367-00357485-00357634 sum up but I'd like you probably just
iI0lJUqg7P8-01368-00357635-00357784 spend a little bit more time probably
iI0lJUqg7P8-01369-00357785-00358135 four or five minutes and to sum up thank
iI0lJUqg7P8-01370-00358136-00358653 you sure thank you Michael yes I think
iI0lJUqg7P8-01371-00358654-00358943 what I would like to say is that when
iI0lJUqg7P8-01372-00358944-00359353 any of us listening to this or working
iI0lJUqg7P8-01373-00359354-00359701 in this area is intent on trying to
iI0lJUqg7P8-01374-00359702-00359932 assist anybody who's going through
iI0lJUqg7P8-01375-00359933-00360176 family violence I think we need to try
iI0lJUqg7P8-01376-00360177-00360403 and understand that it is such a complex
iI0lJUqg7P8-01377-00360404-00360650 issue that there a whole range of issues
iI0lJUqg7P8-01378-00360651-00360985 with in all communities you know whether
iI0lJUqg7P8-01379-00360986-00361193 it be a migrant or a non migrant
iI0lJUqg7P8-01380-00361194-00361426 community and even within the migrant
iI0lJUqg7P8-01381-00361427-00361678 communities each culture has its own
iI0lJUqg7P8-01382-00361679-00361988 intrinsic issues and yes it is difficult
iI0lJUqg7P8-01383-00361989-00362260 for us to become aware of the culturally
iI0lJUqg7P8-01384-00362261-00362444 intrinsic issues across all groups
iI0lJUqg7P8-01385-00362445-00362768 however i think as professionals we have
iI0lJUqg7P8-01386-00362769-00363041 an obligation we have a duty of care to
iI0lJUqg7P8-01387-00363042-00363299 try and understand their perspective and
iI0lJUqg7P8-01388-00363300-00363572 so we need to try her first of all as
iI0lJUqg7P8-01389-00363573-00363839 much as possible to understand each
iI0lJUqg7P8-01390-00363840-00364057 one's own culture and when they do
iI0lJUqg7P8-01391-00364058-00364448 approaches to also be more open to other
iI0lJUqg7P8-01392-00364449-00364694 cultures cultures and cultural groups
iI0lJUqg7P8-01393-00364695-00364909 you know interact with people just on a
iI0lJUqg7P8-01394-00364910-00365126 general basis so that we can develop our
iI0lJUqg7P8-01395-00365127-00365363 understanding of other cultures I think
iI0lJUqg7P8-01396-00365364-00365588 that's really important and then when
iI0lJUqg7P8-01397-00365589-00365840 you are trying to assist someone because
iI0lJUqg7P8-01398-00365841-00366023 of the compressed complexity of the
iI0lJUqg7P8-01399-00366024-00366229 issues I think we need to try and be
iI0lJUqg7P8-01400-00366230-00366542 committed in the long haul for this it
iI0lJUqg7P8-01401-00366543-00366931 is not an easy task to try and reduce
iI0lJUqg7P8-01402-00366932-00367238 family violence it can be an ongoing
iI0lJUqg7P8-01403-00367239-00367599 issue sometimes it can store
iI0lJUqg7P8-01404-00367600-00367911 there are a whole range of reasons why
iI0lJUqg7P8-01405-00367912-00368253 it can stop for example just last week a
iI0lJUqg7P8-01406-00368254-00368619 woman's husband left the country so she
iI0lJUqg7P8-01407-00368620-00368991 feels safe now and until then she had
iI0lJUqg7P8-01408-00368992-00369207 nightmares almost every day and she
iI0lJUqg7P8-01409-00369208-00369417 would wake up in the morning calling me
iI0lJUqg7P8-01410-00369418-00369687 with really terrible nightmares and her
iI0lJUqg7P8-01411-00369688-00369894 14 year old daughter for example again
iI0lJUqg7P8-01412-00369895-00370203 would have severe headaches again
iI0lJUqg7P8-01413-00370204-00370458 because they had this realistic fear
iI0lJUqg7P8-01414-00370459-00370674 that the husband was going to kill them
iI0lJUqg7P8-01415-00370675-00370947 all and so this is there when somebody
iI0lJUqg7P8-01416-00370948-00371400 tells us that they are having this fear
iI0lJUqg7P8-01417-00371401-00371592 that they do fear that their husband or
iI0lJUqg7P8-01418-00371593-00371730 their partner is going to kill them I
iI0lJUqg7P8-01419-00371731-00371928 think we need to acknowledge that you
iI0lJUqg7P8-01420-00371929-00372105 know we may not have all of the proof
iI0lJUqg7P8-01421-00372106-00372318 that whether the husband or the other
iI0lJUqg7P8-01422-00372319-00372483 partner is going to kill them or not
iI0lJUqg7P8-01423-00372484-00372744 however we do need to acknowledge that I
iI0lJUqg7P8-01424-00372745-00372909 think and I think sometimes just
iI0lJUqg7P8-01425-00372910-00373173 acknowledging that would also help to
iI0lJUqg7P8-01426-00373174-00373410 develop the sense of trust I mentioned
iI0lJUqg7P8-01427-00373411-00373689 very early on that I think that they
iI0lJUqg7P8-01428-00373690-00373905 need to develop a sense of trust in us
iI0lJUqg7P8-01429-00373906-00374130 for them to actually be able to narrate
iI0lJUqg7P8-01430-00374131-00374516 their experiences for me as time goes I
iI0lJUqg7P8-01431-00374517-00374814 become aware of so many more complex
iI0lJUqg7P8-01432-00374815-00374966 issues that have occurred in their lives
iI0lJUqg7P8-01433-00374967-00375207 again I think just because they do
iI0lJUqg7P8-01434-00375208-00375459 believe that I'm not going to go and do
iI0lJUqg7P8-01435-00375460-00375717 something wrong with that information so
iI0lJUqg7P8-01436-00375718-00375963 i think the development of trust is a
iI0lJUqg7P8-01437-00375964-00376236 really crucial issue because that's when
iI0lJUqg7P8-01438-00376237-00376515 you will learn about their experiences
iI0lJUqg7P8-01439-00376516-00376761 and then as practitioners like i said
iI0lJUqg7P8-01440-00376762-00377013 because of the complexity of the issues
iI0lJUqg7P8-01441-00377014-00377217 i think we need to be working
iI0lJUqg7P8-01442-00377218-00377430 collaboratively the whole range of
iI0lJUqg7P8-01443-00377431-00377688 resources and organizations that we are
iI0lJUqg7P8-01444-00377689-00377889 aware of and if you're not aware of it
iI0lJUqg7P8-01445-00377890-00378159 to really become aware of them I'm
iI0lJUqg7P8-01446-00378160-00378360 trying to do that on a daily basis I
iI0lJUqg7P8-01447-00378361-00378516 don't know myself all of the
iI0lJUqg7P8-01448-00378517-00378789 organizations like for example i
iI0lJUqg7P8-01449-00378790-00378945 mentioned to you about this lady who
iI0lJUqg7P8-01450-00378946-00379161 needs to leave on thursday it was only
iI0lJUqg7P8-01451-00379162-00379443 yesterday that i became aware of a whole
iI0lJUqg7P8-01452-00379444-00379707 new visa category that would be
iI0lJUqg7P8-01453-00379708-00379977 applicable in her situation so we need
iI0lJUqg7P8-01454-00379978-00380196 to be aware of the system and if one is
iI0lJUqg7P8-01455-00380197-00380442 not able to be fully aware of the system
iI0lJUqg7P8-01456-00380443-00380592 which is a really difficult thing to do
iI0lJUqg7P8-01457-00380593-00380979 to dry a network to talk to others you
iI0lJUqg7P8-01458-00380980-00380997 know
iI0lJUqg7P8-01459-00380998-00381165 there are a whole range of people here
iI0lJUqg7P8-01460-00381166-00381359 from a whole range of organisations
iI0lJUqg7P8-01461-00381360-00381555 across Australia and I think we all need
iI0lJUqg7P8-01462-00381556-00381789 to be connected better somehow we need
iI0lJUqg7P8-01463-00381790-00382134 to ask people if we don't know you know
iI0lJUqg7P8-01464-00382135-00382293 to just pick up the phone and for me
iI0lJUqg7P8-01465-00382294-00382464 what I always find is that even if
iI0lJUqg7P8-01466-00382465-00382614 people are not able to help they usually
iI0lJUqg7P8-01467-00382615-00382773 provide me with another contact phone
iI0lJUqg7P8-01468-00382774-00383028 number so I think when you do need to
iI0lJUqg7P8-01469-00383029-00383298 become aware of resources and to be
iI0lJUqg7P8-01470-00383299-00383664 aware that many migrant people they may
iI0lJUqg7P8-01471-00383665-00383877 be here as temporary residents and may
iI0lJUqg7P8-01472-00383878-00384063 not be eligible for the whole range of
iI0lJUqg7P8-01473-00384064-00384288 services you know people may wonder as
iI0lJUqg7P8-01474-00384289-00384485 to why they cannot just go to a GP well
iI0lJUqg7P8-01475-00384486-00384951 going to a GP means the cost the cost to
iI0lJUqg7P8-01476-00384952-00385197 them and they just cannot afford it and
iI0lJUqg7P8-01477-00385198-00385428 you may then wonder that well if they're
iI0lJUqg7P8-01478-00385429-00385590 on a student visa in fact they do need
iI0lJUqg7P8-01479-00385591-00385941 to have medical insurance yes they do
iI0lJUqg7P8-01480-00385942-00386112 need to have medical insurance but if
iI0lJUqg7P8-01481-00386113-00386325 they're on a bridging visa they're not
iI0lJUqg7P8-01482-00386326-00386562 required to have it or in fact a lot of
iI0lJUqg7P8-01483-00386563-00386769 people just cannot afford it and they do
iI0lJUqg7P8-01484-00386770-00387045 stay on without medical insurance so the
iI0lJUqg7P8-01485-00387046-00387273 reality is that people may just not have
iI0lJUqg7P8-01486-00387274-00387462 enough money to put food on the table
iI0lJUqg7P8-01487-00387463-00387723 for themselves or for their children or
iI0lJUqg7P8-01488-00387724-00387999 to even visit a GP so how then are they
iI0lJUqg7P8-01489-00388000-00388203 going to pay a counselor or psychologist
iI0lJUqg7P8-01490-00388204-00388455 you know and this is where I think more
iI0lJUqg7P8-01491-00388456-00388641 people need to try and put their hands
iI0lJUqg7P8-01492-00388642-00388878 up to try and do voluntary work as well
iI0lJUqg7P8-01493-00388879-00389073 for me I find that this is a challenge
iI0lJUqg7P8-01494-00389074-00389309 because again when i'm attending to
iI0lJUqg7P8-01495-00389310-00389469 critical situations sometimes i'm
iI0lJUqg7P8-01496-00389470-00389616 running around doing a lot of the work
iI0lJUqg7P8-01497-00389617-00389940 on my own because it is a big commitment
iI0lJUqg7P8-01498-00389941-00390150 as i mentioned for example sometimes i
iI0lJUqg7P8-01499-00390151-00390324 might just get a call saying well the
iI0lJUqg7P8-01500-00390325-00390525 person's visa was refused and the person
iI0lJUqg7P8-01501-00390526-00390738 has attempted suicide I'm sorry to go
iI0lJUqg7P8-01502-00390739-00390975 into so much debt but then this is what
iI0lJUqg7P8-01503-00390976-00391209 I think followed us no I can understand
iI0lJUqg7P8-01504-00391210-00391533 and value your your experience and
iI0lJUqg7P8-01505-00391534-00391818 expertise thank you Michael so I'm sorry
iI0lJUqg7P8-01506-00391819-00392091 if it's too much for you no wonder this
iI0lJUqg7P8-01507-00392092-00392580 year it's Florida if I can just provide
iI0lJUqg7P8-01508-00392581-00392742 you again with a glimpse of that so
iI0lJUqg7P8-01509-00392743-00392901 again I could just get a call saying the
iI0lJUqg7P8-01510-00392902-00393134 woman over here has no one over here in
iI0lJUqg7P8-01511-00393135-00393372 this country that she knows off and that
iI0lJUqg7P8-01512-00393373-00393567 you know for a whole range of very
iI0lJUqg7P8-01513-00393568-00393894 complex reasons she was refused to stay
iI0lJUqg7P8-01514-00393895-00394146 in this country and then she attempted
iI0lJUqg7P8-01515-00394147-00394377 suicide in fact one of two women
iI0lJUqg7P8-01516-00394378-00394524 had spoken to in the morning and I had
iI0lJUqg7P8-01517-00394525-00394692 tried to reassure her that we would find
iI0lJUqg7P8-01518-00394693-00394920 a way for her to remain in this country
iI0lJUqg7P8-01519-00394921-00395145 because it would have been shameful for
iI0lJUqg7P8-01520-00395146-00395346 her to return to the country the family
iI0lJUqg7P8-01521-00395347-00395772 had disowned her back in India and she
iI0lJUqg7P8-01522-00395773-00395961 just thought that well nobody could
iI0lJUqg7P8-01523-00395962-00396207 really do anything and I got a call on
iI0lJUqg7P8-01524-00396208-00396384 Friday evening when I just came back
iI0lJUqg7P8-01525-00396385-00396654 from work that the ambulance is about to
iI0lJUqg7P8-01526-00396655-00396798 pick her up and take her to the effort
iI0lJUqg7P8-01527-00396799-00397068 so I stayed at night hospital as
iI0lJUqg7P8-01528-00397069-00397376 Michelle writing and one of our and
iI0lJUqg7P8-01529-00397377-00397653 participants is so well said it's the
iI0lJUqg7P8-01530-00397654-00397872 reality ladder and thank you for sharing
iI0lJUqg7P8-01531-00397873-00398166 so openly with us I was just a bunch of
iI0lJUqg7P8-01532-00398167-00398394 at the end and just for her summing up
iI0lJUqg7P8-01533-00398395-00398681 thank you laughing my pleasure yeah I
iI0lJUqg7P8-01534-00398682-00398922 think the work that Lara does is
iI0lJUqg7P8-01535-00398923-00399089 absolutely amazing and inspirational
iI0lJUqg7P8-01536-00399090-00399429 thank you for sharing that I think my
iI0lJUqg7P8-01537-00399430-00399630 summing up points are the things that
iI0lJUqg7P8-01538-00399631-00399825 I've learned tonight is it's so
iI0lJUqg7P8-01539-00399826-00400014 important to think broadly and
iI0lJUqg7P8-01540-00400015-00400218 holistically to think about the social
iI0lJUqg7P8-01541-00400219-00400422 and the cultural implications but also
iI0lJUqg7P8-01542-00400423-00400653 to think about not just the one person
iI0lJUqg7P8-01543-00400654-00400833 but the whole family that we're working
iI0lJUqg7P8-01544-00400834-00401043 with and we have to balance that up
iI0lJUqg7P8-01545-00401044-00401235 absolutely i've been reading a lot about
iI0lJUqg7P8-01546-00401236-00401478 everybody can see the complexity in this
iI0lJUqg7P8-01547-00401479-00401697 case but how do we balance up that
iI0lJUqg7P8-01548-00401698-00401925 complexity keep that in mind think about
iI0lJUqg7P8-01549-00401926-00402147 safety and also thinking about keeping
iI0lJUqg7P8-01550-00402148-00402327 engaged and working with this family
iI0lJUqg7P8-01551-00402328-00402504 that some of the risks are really
iI0lJUqg7P8-01552-00402505-00402747 significant and how do we ensure safety
iI0lJUqg7P8-01553-00402748-00402984 and i think the solution is about some
iI0lJUqg7P8-01554-00402985-00403206 of that creativity that latter mentions
iI0lJUqg7P8-01555-00403207-00403443 and talks about we do have to get very
iI0lJUqg7P8-01556-00403444-00403613 creative with a lot of our clients
iI0lJUqg7P8-01557-00403614-00403848 particularly people here on student
iI0lJUqg7P8-01558-00403849-00404046 visas but also to people on bridging
iI0lJUqg7P8-01559-00404047-00404490 visas is really important thank you very
iI0lJUqg7P8-01560-00404491-00404802 much Vivian and I'm thank you very much
iI0lJUqg7P8-01561-00404803-00405033 finally you're very talented panel very
iI0lJUqg7P8-01562-00405034-00405321 knowledgeable and I do hope you didn't
iI0lJUqg7P8-01563-00405322-00405609 think that I was being too oppressive in
iI0lJUqg7P8-01564-00405610-00405861 your timing and we very much appreciate
iI0lJUqg7P8-01565-00405862-00406149 and everything that you've done for us
iI0lJUqg7P8-01566-00406150-00406404 tonight I'm just going to sum up now
iI0lJUqg7P8-01567-00406405-00406728 from from my point of view and just my
iI0lJUqg7P8-01568-00406729-00407025 impression of this evening it's in to me
iI0lJUqg7P8-01569-00407026-00407301 as if physical health was an entree to
iI0lJUqg7P8-01570-00407302-00407472 getting help for this family it would
iI0lJUqg7P8-01571-00407473-00407658 have been culturally appropriate for
iI0lJUqg7P8-01572-00407659-00407745 them to take physical
iI0lJUqg7P8-01573-00407746-00407909 helpless for the baby and for the mother
iI0lJUqg7P8-01574-00407910-00408150 and for the father the importance of
iI0lJUqg7P8-01575-00408151-00408390 engagement of all members but the
iI0lJUqg7P8-01576-00408391-00408591 presenting person is often not the
iI0lJUqg7P8-01577-00408592-00408822 person who needs the most help although
iI0lJUqg7P8-01578-00408823-00409227 in this case she probably is the effect
iI0lJUqg7P8-01579-00409228-00409739 of good rapport and the huge amount of
iI0lJUqg7P8-01580-00409741-00409910 fear that must be present within the
iI0lJUqg7P8-01581-00409912-00410151 family the culture shock that they're
iI0lJUqg7P8-01582-00410152-00410391 experiencing and the importance of a
iI0lJUqg7P8-01583-00410392-00410772 holistic attitude and the as Gladys Oh
iI0lJUqg7P8-01584-00410772-00410955 was he said the translation of knowledge
iI0lJUqg7P8-01585-00410956-00411162 the translation of our knowledge across
iI0lJUqg7P8-01586-00411163-00411441 all disciplines to help this family the
iI0lJUqg7P8-01587-00411442-00411676 importance of commitment and and
iI0lJUqg7P8-01588-00411677-00411926 understanding the complexity of the
iI0lJUqg7P8-01589-00411927-00412326 problem and is extremely important and
iI0lJUqg7P8-01590-00412327-00412643 also an acknowledgement of the family as
iI0lJUqg7P8-01591-00412645-00412926 a family unit and each individual member
iI0lJUqg7P8-01592-00412927-00413264 of the family and also acknowledging
iI0lJUqg7P8-01593-00413266-00413507 that we don't have all the answers and
iI0lJUqg7P8-01594-00413508-00413691 that we sometimes need to look further
iI0lJUqg7P8-01595-00413692-00414012 into their expectations of care and into
iI0lJUqg7P8-01596-00414013-00414330 the availability of assets in within
iI0lJUqg7P8-01597-00414331-00415076 their own community and I do wish that
iI0lJUqg7P8-01598-00415077-00415314 we could spend another half an hour to
iI0lJUqg7P8-01599-00415314-00415695 an hour and speaking and on this topic
iI0lJUqg7P8-01600-00415696-00416155 but unfortunately we don't have time and
iI0lJUqg7P8-01601-00416156-00416553 the webinar will be available and to
iI0lJUqg7P8-01602-00416554-00416870 view again online and and please don't
iI0lJUqg7P8-01603-00416871-00417168 hesitate to to view it if you miss some
iI0lJUqg7P8-01604-00417168-00417482 parts of it and for the participants I
iI0lJUqg7P8-01605-00417483-00417759 thank you for your patience with a few
iI0lJUqg7P8-01606-00417760-00417957 technical problems that we had earlier
iI0lJUqg7P8-01607-00417958-00418145 and thank you for your questions in your
iI0lJUqg7P8-01608-00418146-00418299 participation it was very much
iI0lJUqg7P8-01609-00418300-00418545 appreciated by the panel please ensure
iI0lJUqg7P8-01610-00418546-00418734 that you complete the exit survey before
iI0lJUqg7P8-01611-00418735-00418887 you log out it will appear on your
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iI0lJUqg7P8-01613-00419096-00419295 certificates will be issued in four to
iI0lJUqg7P8-01614-00419296-00419649 five weeks and the next webinar is
iI0lJUqg7P8-01615-00419650-00419847 mental health parenting recovery and
iI0lJUqg7P8-01616-00419847-00420018 interdisciplinary panel discussion and
iI0lJUqg7P8-01617-00420018-00420174 that will be held on thursday the twenty
iI0lJUqg7P8-01618-00420175-00420655 sixth of June
iI0lJUqg7P8-01619-00420656-00420970 we at em hpn are very grateful for the
iI0lJUqg7P8-01620-00420971-00421282 support of our FEMA mhm IMA and
iI0lJUqg7P8-01621-00421283-00421483 producing this webinar mima for those
iI0lJUqg7P8-01622-00421484-00421678 who may not know is a Department of
iI0lJUqg7P8-01623-00421679-00421897 Health federal government initiative and
iI0lJUqg7P8-01624-00421897-00422218 you can find out more about nima by
iI0lJUqg7P8-01625-00422218-00422593 going to their website and the link is
iI0lJUqg7P8-01626-00422593-00423343 is there and I would just like to thank
iI0lJUqg7P8-01627-00423343-00423672 again the panel for the great
iI0lJUqg7P8-01628-00423674-00423967 contribution that they've given us and I
iI0lJUqg7P8-01629-00423968-00424234 feel that the participants gained a
iI0lJUqg7P8-01630-00424235-00424572 great deal from lattice hands-on
iI0lJUqg7P8-01631-00424574-00424933 experience but I also feel that each
iI0lJUqg7P8-01632-00424934-00425142 practice of each panel member
iI0lJUqg7P8-01633-00425143-00425446 contributes greatly and humbly from
iI0lJUqg7P8-01634-00425447-00425704 their own knowledge base and I'd like to
iI0lJUqg7P8-01635-00425705-00425872 thank you all once again I'd like to
iI0lJUqg7P8-01636-00425872-00426196 thank you joel on Harry latter and vbn
iI0lJUqg7P8-01637-00426197-00426714 and particularly for those for that for
iI0lJUqg7P8-01638-00426716-00426871 the amount of knowledge that you bring
iI0lJUqg7P8-01639-00426872-00427338 to this area in which many of us landed
iI0lJUqg7P8-01640-00427339-00427614 on behalf of M HP and I'd like to thank
iI0lJUqg7P8-01641-00427616-00427876 everybody for attending tonight thank
iI0lJUqg7P8-01642-00427877-00428092 you
iJjKhsxA7No-00000-00002503-00003303 double kill
iJjKhsxA7No-00001-00003304-00004991 double kill
iJjKhsxA7No-00003-00008184-00008392 you
iJBYyaCP11I-00000-00000059-00000359 hey this is Brett and this 2013
iJBYyaCP11I-00001-00000360-00000844 Chevrolet Corvette 1lt Grand Sport is
iJBYyaCP11I-00002-00000846-00001115 stock number one three seven two seven Z
iJBYyaCP11I-00003-00001116-00001397 I am here at Summit Automotive in Fond
iJBYyaCP11I-00004-00001398-00001630 du Lac Wisconsin you're new and used
iJBYyaCP11I-00005-00001632-00001948 sports car headquarters this 2013
iJBYyaCP11I-00006-00001950-00002315 Chevrolet Corvette has the 6.2 liter V8
iJBYyaCP11I-00007-00002316-00002567 gas engine it's paired up with the
iJBYyaCP11I-00008-00002568-00002800 automatic transmission and it puts out
iJBYyaCP11I-00009-00002801-00003052 430 horsepower this vehicle has been
iJBYyaCP11I-00010-00003053-00003215 fully safetied and inspected by our
iJBYyaCP11I-00011-00003215-00003406 service shop has a fresh oil and filter
iJBYyaCP11I-00012-00003407-00003556 change all the fluids have been checked
iJBYyaCP11I-00013-00003557-00003797 and tapped off and it is 100 ready to go
iJBYyaCP11I-00014-00003797-00003977 I'm going to go all the way around in
iJBYyaCP11I-00015-00003978-00004277 this video inside under the hood start
iJBYyaCP11I-00016-00004278-00004493 it up take a look in the trunk just give
iJBYyaCP11I-00017-00004494-00004661 you the most accurate representation of
iJBYyaCP11I-00018-00004662-00004967 the car that I can so supersonic blue
iJBYyaCP11I-00019-00004968-00005135 metallic is the color and I shoot all my
iJBYyaCP11I-00020-00005136-00005333 videos in 4k so if you have HD
iJBYyaCP11I-00021-00005334-00005501 capabilities turn them on now because it
iJBYyaCP11I-00022-00005502-00005627 is your best way to check out the
iJBYyaCP11I-00023-00005628-00005818 quality condition options and
iJBYyaCP11I-00024-00005819-00006022 cleanliness of the car before seen it in
iJBYyaCP11I-00025-00006023-00006220 person and if you like the video you can
iJBYyaCP11I-00026-00006221-00006388 subscribe to my YouTube channel which is
iJBYyaCP11I-00027-00006389-00006610 youtube.com Summit Auto click the Bell
iJBYyaCP11I-00028-00006611-00006737 notifications you'll get updates on the
iJBYyaCP11I-00029-00006738-00006845 videos I do each and every day as well
iJBYyaCP11I-00030-00006845-00007006 as access to one of the largest catalogs
iJBYyaCP11I-00031-00007008-00007217 vehicle walkarounds on YouTube so this
iJBYyaCP11I-00032-00007218-00007498 one comes with the 18 inch chromed alloy
iJBYyaCP11I-00033-00007500-00007714 wheels in the front you get the drilled
iJBYyaCP11I-00034-00007715-00007991 rotors on there and it has brand new
iJBYyaCP11I-00035-00007992-00008231 Michelin Pilot Sport all-season tires
iJBYyaCP11I-00036-00008232-00008560 these are 275 35 zr18s in the front and
iJBYyaCP11I-00037-00008561-00008741 they are brand new we put those on in
iJBYyaCP11I-00038-00008742-00008921 our safety inspection you can still see
iJBYyaCP11I-00039-00008922-00009137 the little wear knobs on there this is a
iJBYyaCP11I-00040-00009138-00009496 one owner yes I said one owner clean
iJBYyaCP11I-00041-00009497-00009737 title history clean Carfax out of
iJBYyaCP11I-00042-00009738-00010055 Pennsylvania has hid headlamps headlight
iJBYyaCP11I-00043-00010056-00010246 lenses are nice and clear has the
iJBYyaCP11I-00044-00010247-00010433 factory fog lights and the front bumper
iJBYyaCP11I-00045-00010434-00010709 is in really nice condition I didn't see
iJBYyaCP11I-00046-00010710-00010955 any dents or cracks or scuffs on the
iJBYyaCP11I-00047-00010956-00011201 front bumper lower valence got a couple
iJBYyaCP11I-00048-00011202-00011374 little Nicks in it but nothing too bad
iJBYyaCP11I-00049-00011375-00011645 and I say it uh one owner because
iJBYyaCP11I-00050-00011646-00011891 usually these Corvettes have like three
iJBYyaCP11I-00051-00011892-00012124 or four owner owners on them especially
iJBYyaCP11I-00052-00012125-00012509 for a 2013 but this one is a one owner
iJBYyaCP11I-00053-00012510-00012767 so we bought it from the person who
iJBYyaCP11I-00054-00012768-00013001 bought it new you get the 60th
iJBYyaCP11I-00055-00013002-00013265 anniversary logo on the front pretty
iJBYyaCP11I-00056-00013266-00013655 much all 2013s are going to have that
iJBYyaCP11I-00057-00013656-00013847 passenger side front fenders in
iJBYyaCP11I-00058-00013847-00014051 excellent shape didn't see any major
iJBYyaCP11I-00059-00014052-00014272 scuffs or scrapes on there let's take a
iJBYyaCP11I-00060-00014273-00014543 look at that supersonic blue metallic
iJBYyaCP11I-00061-00014544-00014843 hopefully I can get it to focus here
iJBYyaCP11I-00062-00014844-00015016 there we go it's got a lot of metal
iJBYyaCP11I-00063-00015018-00015322 flake in it really a cool color
iJBYyaCP11I-00064-00015323-00015521 Paints in really nice shape passenger
iJBYyaCP11I-00065-00015522-00015665 side
iJBYyaCP11I-00066-00015666-00015899 front wheel no major scuffs or scrapes
iJBYyaCP11I-00067-00015900-00016144 on there and as you go down this side of
iJBYyaCP11I-00068-00016145-00016336 this 2013
iJBYyaCP11I-00069-00016337-00016643 Chevrolet Grand Sport 1lt take note of
iJBYyaCP11I-00070-00016644-00016847 how clean that body is how reflective
iJBYyaCP11I-00071-00016848-00017158 and mirror-like that paint is
iJBYyaCP11I-00072-00017159-00017363 take these HD videos so if you are far
iJBYyaCP11I-00073-00017364-00017561 away or even if you're close by just
iJBYyaCP11I-00074-00017562-00017717 cannot make the trip down but you're
iJBYyaCP11I-00075-00017718-00017855 still interested in purchasing the
iJBYyaCP11I-00076-00017856-00018077 vehicle you can see the car here the car
iJBYyaCP11I-00077-00018078-00018269 and of confidence in the vehicle that
iJBYyaCP11I-00078-00018270-00018455 you're looking at before you even get
iJBYyaCP11I-00079-00018456-00018569 here so when you do get here there's
iJBYyaCP11I-00080-00018570-00018749 absolutely no surprises and you can make
iJBYyaCP11I-00081-00018750-00018994 a smart and informed buying decision
iJBYyaCP11I-00082-00018995-00019175 from wherever you're at if this video
iJBYyaCP11I-00083-00019176-00019330 helps you make that buying decision let
iJBYyaCP11I-00084-00019331-00019457 your salesman know that you saw the
iJBYyaCP11I-00085-00019458-00019661 video that it was helpful and that Brad
iJBYyaCP11I-00086-00019662-00019907 sent you back wheel excellent shape as
iJBYyaCP11I-00087-00019908-00020250 well and the back tires are three 25 30
iJBYyaCP11I-00088-00020251-00020513 zr19s so these are 19 inch wheels in the
iJBYyaCP11I-00089-00020514-00020591 back
iJBYyaCP11I-00090-00020592-00021107 and they are brand new tires as well
iJBYyaCP11I-00091-00021108-00021353 really a nice car
iJBYyaCP11I-00092-00021354-00021611 really like the color you don't see this
iJBYyaCP11I-00093-00021612-00021850 color very often
iJBYyaCP11I-00094-00021851-00022169 rear bumper area is in nice shape you
iJBYyaCP11I-00095-00022170-00022522 get the quad-tipped dual rear exhaust
iJBYyaCP11I-00096-00022523-00022805 that's just the normal exhaust
iJBYyaCP11I-00097-00022806-00023489 get the 60th logo back there as well
iJBYyaCP11I-00098-00023490-00023794 trunk area is very nice and clean those
iJBYyaCP11I-00099-00023795-00023975 shocks are doing a nice job holding that
iJBYyaCP11I-00100-00023976-00024161 deck lid up
iJBYyaCP11I-00101-00024162-00024400 but very nice and clean back here
iJBYyaCP11I-00102-00024401-00024713 this is uh for your front license plate
iJBYyaCP11I-00103-00024714-00024905 don't put that on
iJBYyaCP11I-00104-00024906-00025061 um but yeah very nice and clean back
iJBYyaCP11I-00105-00025062-00025207 here
iJBYyaCP11I-00106-00025208-00025535 and that shuts nice and solidly
iJBYyaCP11I-00107-00025536-00025756 coming around to the driver's side rear
iJBYyaCP11I-00108-00025757-00025906 quarter looks really good didn't see any
iJBYyaCP11I-00109-00025907-00026105 scuffs or scrapes on there
iJBYyaCP11I-00110-00026106-00026357 and uh the back wheel on this side for
iJBYyaCP11I-00111-00026358-00026531 full disclosure is in excellent
iJBYyaCP11I-00112-00026532-00026867 excellent shape as well so all the
iJBYyaCP11I-00113-00026868-00027089 wheels on this car are very nice
iJBYyaCP11I-00114-00027089-00027389 condition and down the rest of the side
iJBYyaCP11I-00115-00027389-00027623 no scuffs or scrapes Paints in really
iJBYyaCP11I-00116-00027624-00027827 nice condition
iJBYyaCP11I-00117-00027827-00028211 inside the one LT package
iJBYyaCP11I-00118-00028212-00028451 gives you the black
iJBYyaCP11I-00119-00028452-00028702 leather bucket seats
iJBYyaCP11I-00120-00028704-00028955 no rips or tears on those seats they're
iJBYyaCP11I-00121-00028956-00029111 in really nice conditions side curtain
iJBYyaCP11I-00122-00029112-00029224 airbags
iJBYyaCP11I-00123-00029225-00029783 Factory floor mats
iJBYyaCP11I-00124-00029783-00030023 and power windows locks and mirrors you
iJBYyaCP11I-00125-00030024-00030299 get that 60th anniversary
iJBYyaCP11I-00126-00030300-00030467 plate right there
iJBYyaCP11I-00127-00030468-00031341 hop inside so it stops dinging at us
iJBYyaCP11I-00128-00031342-00031720 [Applause]
iJBYyaCP11I-00129-00031722-00032093 it's going to make me start it
iJBYyaCP11I-00130-00032094-00032292 we'll start up no problem in that
iJBYyaCP11I-00131-00032293-00032561 [Applause]
iJBYyaCP11I-00132-00032562-00032746 starts right up no check engine lights
iJBYyaCP11I-00133-00032747-00033071 or anything like that and this car has
iJBYyaCP11I-00134-00033072-00033193 21
iJBYyaCP11I-00135-00033194-00033539 996 miles note that you do get that 60th
iJBYyaCP11I-00136-00033540-00033785 anniversary instrument cluster as well
iJBYyaCP11I-00137-00033786-00033977 comes with the leather wrapped steering
iJBYyaCP11I-00138-00033978-00034162 wheel audio controls on the right you
iJBYyaCP11I-00139-00034163-00034331 get the Grand Sport logo in the center
iJBYyaCP11I-00140-00034332-00034612 and your paddle shifters right there
iJBYyaCP11I-00141-00034613-00034871 has AM FM and SiriusXM Radio
iJBYyaCP11I-00142-00034872-00035140 capabilities and a CD player aux Jack
iJBYyaCP11I-00143-00035141-00035471 and dual climate controls right there
iJBYyaCP11I-00144-00035472-00035705 you get your information center buttons
iJBYyaCP11I-00145-00035706-00035879 your push button start automatic
iJBYyaCP11I-00146-00035880-00036107 transmission and your keyless entry
iJBYyaCP11I-00147-00036108-00036424 right there passenger side floor mat and
iJBYyaCP11I-00148-00036425-00036707 seat are in fantastic condition and then
iJBYyaCP11I-00149-00036708-00037012 the last logo is right there
iJBYyaCP11I-00150-00037013-00037223 so I'm going to put the soft top up I'll
iJBYyaCP11I-00151-00037224-00037385 show you how that's done does have
iJBYyaCP11I-00152-00037386-00037583 Compass display as well as OnStar and
iJBYyaCP11I-00153-00037584-00037889 SOS capabilities in the mirror and I'm
iJBYyaCP11I-00154-00037890-00038015 going to turn it off so I don't get
iJBYyaCP11I-00155-00038016-00038183 smoked out in here
iJBYyaCP11I-00156-00038184-00038393 because we're going to check out
iJBYyaCP11I-00157-00038394-00038639 that soft top and then we'll take a look
iJBYyaCP11I-00158-00038640-00038830 under the hood so I'll start it back up
iJBYyaCP11I-00159-00038831-00039023 for that
iJBYyaCP11I-00160-00039024-00039418 to get these soft tops back up there's a
iJBYyaCP11I-00161-00039419-00039640 button right here so
iJBYyaCP11I-00162-00039641-00039959 I don't know if you can see that
iJBYyaCP11I-00163-00039960-00040217 turn that light on here
iJBYyaCP11I-00164-00040218-00040433 so see the yellow button that's the
iJBYyaCP11I-00165-00040434-00040637 release
iJBYyaCP11I-00166-00040638-00040889 for this piece right here
iJBYyaCP11I-00167-00040890-00041099 so
iJBYyaCP11I-00168-00041100-00041759 open that like so
iJBYyaCP11I-00169-00041760-00042202 and uh then you can grab the soft top so
iJBYyaCP11I-00170-00042203-00042365 this is a manual
iJBYyaCP11I-00171-00042366-00042562 so you just go like so
iJBYyaCP11I-00172-00042563-00042809 and then you have to grab the back and
iJBYyaCP11I-00173-00042810-00043043 pull it up like that and then this top
iJBYyaCP11I-00174-00043044-00043174 piece
iJBYyaCP11I-00175-00043175-00043577 will go down
iJBYyaCP11I-00176-00043578-00044057 kind of hard to do with one hand
iJBYyaCP11I-00177-00044058-00044177 you got to make sure it doesn't get
iJBYyaCP11I-00178-00044178-00044290 caught
iJBYyaCP11I-00179-00044291-00044495 on the glass there
iJBYyaCP11I-00180-00044496-00044693 and make sure your microphone cord
iJBYyaCP11I-00181-00044694-00044921 doesn't get caught in there and then
iJBYyaCP11I-00182-00044922-00045118 that goes down like so
iJBYyaCP11I-00183-00045119-00045257 anyways
iJBYyaCP11I-00184-00045258-00045412 um
iJBYyaCP11I-00185-00045413-00045611 and this just kind of
iJBYyaCP11I-00186-00045612-00045827 pushes down like that and we'll go back
iJBYyaCP11I-00187-00045828-00046162 inside and I'll show you how
iJBYyaCP11I-00188-00046163-00046445 this works
iJBYyaCP11I-00189-00046446-00046667 so you gotta turn that
iJBYyaCP11I-00190-00046668-00046846 to secure it
iJBYyaCP11I-00191-00046847-00047062 and like so and now it's locked into
iJBYyaCP11I-00192-00047063-00047333 place you can see the inside of the soft
iJBYyaCP11I-00193-00047334-00047579 top is in Nice condition we'll take a
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iJBYyaCP11I-00197-00048096-00048329 see there are no rips or tears on that
iJBYyaCP11I-00198-00048330-00048527 soft top the glass is in really nice
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iJBYyaCP11I-00200-00049134-00049312 all right let's start it up take a look
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iJBYyaCP11I-00202-00050010-00050358 [Applause]
iJBYyaCP11I-00203-00050359-00050602 once again no check engine lights or
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iJBYyaCP11I-00205-00051050-00051263 also check out
iJBYyaCP11I-00206-00051264-00051442 all those
iJBYyaCP11I-00207-00051444-00052108 HID lights
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iJBYyaCP11I-00209-00052445-00052775 V8 LS3 engine engine bay is very clean
iJBYyaCP11I-00210-00052776-00052961 runs very smooth you can see the shocks
iJBYyaCP11I-00211-00052962-00053194 are doing a nice job holding that hood
iJBYyaCP11I-00212-00053195-00053326 up
iJBYyaCP11I-00213-00053327-00053680 430 horsepower
iJBYyaCP11I-00214-00053682-00053885 once again this car has been fully
iJBYyaCP11I-00215-00053886-00054076 safetied and inspected by our service
iJBYyaCP11I-00216-00054077-00054347 shop has a fresh oil and filter change
iJBYyaCP11I-00217-00054348-00054491 all the fluids have been checked and
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iJBYyaCP11I-00255-00061914-00062132 again
iKoFVbhJSYc-00000-00000782-00001025 it's true that some people
iKoFVbhJSYc-00001-00001026-00001366 Define God as pure Consciousness or as
iKoFVbhJSYc-00002-00001367-00001660 being synonymous with the laws of nature
iKoFVbhJSYc-00003-00001661-00001913 but if we talk about Consciousness and
iKoFVbhJSYc-00004-00001914-00002092 the laws of nature we won't be talking
iKoFVbhJSYc-00005-00002093-00002273 about the God but most of our neighbors
iKoFVbhJSYc-00006-00002274-00002608 believe in which is a personal God who
iKoFVbhJSYc-00007-00002609-00002776 hears our prayers
iKoFVbhJSYc-00008-00002777-00003029 and occasionally answers them
iKoFVbhJSYc-00009-00003030-00003197 so I just want you to be sensitive to
iKoFVbhJSYc-00010-00003198-00003388 this because if Michael or I say
iKoFVbhJSYc-00011-00003389-00003563 something derogatory about Islam or
iKoFVbhJSYc-00012-00003564-00004003 Christianity which seems possible
iKoFVbhJSYc-00013-00004004-00004277 the response from the other side
iKoFVbhJSYc-00014-00004278-00004552 shouldn't mention quantum mechanics
iKoFVbhJSYc-00015-00004553-00004835 and and it shouldn't reference a a
iKoFVbhJSYc-00016-00004836-00005075 notion of God that is so denuded of
iKoFVbhJSYc-00017-00005076-00005279 Doctrine as to more or less be
iKoFVbhJSYc-00018-00005280-00005549 synonymous with pure mystery or pure
iKoFVbhJSYc-00019-00005550-00005831 information or pure energy or pure
iKoFVbhJSYc-00020-00005832-00006034 anything
iKoFVbhJSYc-00021-00006035-00006215 um so I just wanna I wanted to plant a
iKoFVbhJSYc-00022-00006216-00006406 flag there where you all can see it
iKoFVbhJSYc-00023-00006408-00006623 because because the god that our
iKoFVbhJSYc-00024-00006623-00006773 neighbors believe in
iKoFVbhJSYc-00025-00006773-00007067 is essentially an invisible person he's
iKoFVbhJSYc-00026-00007068-00007414 a Creator deity who created the universe
iKoFVbhJSYc-00027-00007415-00007691 to have a relationship with one species
iKoFVbhJSYc-00028-00007692-00007859 of primate
iKoFVbhJSYc-00029-00007859-00008160 lucky us
iKoFVbhJSYc-00030-00008161-00008446 and and he's got he's got
iKoFVbhJSYc-00031-00008447-00008746 Galaxy upon Galaxy to attend to
iKoFVbhJSYc-00032-00008747-00008987 but he's especially concerned with what
iKoFVbhJSYc-00033-00008988-00009196 we do and he's especially concerned with
iKoFVbhJSYc-00034-00009197-00010067 what we do while naked
iKoFVbhJSYc-00035-00010068-00010260 and he
iKoFVbhJSYc-00036-00010261-00010474 almost certainly disapproves of
iKoFVbhJSYc-00037-00010475-00010756 homosexuality and he's created this this
iKoFVbhJSYc-00038-00010757-00011267 Cosmos as a vast laboratory in which to
iKoFVbhJSYc-00039-00011268-00011542 test our powers of credulity and the
iKoFVbhJSYc-00040-00011543-00011777 test is this can you believe in Eve and
iKoFVbhJSYc-00041-00011778-00012059 it's God on bad evidence
iKoFVbhJSYc-00042-00012060-00012251 which is to say on faith
iKoFVbhJSYc-00043-00012252-00012491 and and if you can
iKoFVbhJSYc-00044-00012492-00012695 you will win an eternity of Happiness
iKoFVbhJSYc-00045-00012696-00012838 after you die
iKoFVbhJSYc-00046-00012839-00013049 and it's precisely this sort of God and
iKoFVbhJSYc-00047-00013050-00013205 this sort of scheme that you must
iKoFVbhJSYc-00048-00013206-00013529 believe in if you're going to have a any
iKoFVbhJSYc-00049-00013530-00013697 kind of future in politics in this
iKoFVbhJSYc-00050-00013697-00013966 country no matter what's your gifts
iKoFVbhJSYc-00051-00013968-00014147 I mean you could be you could be an
iKoFVbhJSYc-00052-00014147-00014429 unprecedented genius you could look like
iKoFVbhJSYc-00053-00014430-00014638 George Clooney you could have a billion
iKoFVbhJSYc-00054-00014640-00014771 dollars and you could have the social
iKoFVbhJSYc-00055-00014772-00014993 skills of Oprah and you were going
iKoFVbhJSYc-00056-00014994-00015179 nowhere in politics in this country
iKoFVbhJSYc-00057-00015180-00015594 unless you believe in that sort of God
iKoFVbhJSYc-00058-00015595-00015905 I'd like to take a moment as many people
iKoFVbhJSYc-00059-00015906-00016222 have to just acknowledge the void that
iKoFVbhJSYc-00060-00016223-00016517 is left by the death of our friend hitch
iKoFVbhJSYc-00061-00016518-00016708 while it might be possible to guess what
iKoFVbhJSYc-00062-00016709-00016889 he would have thought about a number of
iKoFVbhJSYc-00063-00016890-00017117 the top has raised here it's almost
iKoFVbhJSYc-00064-00017118-00017363 impossible to imagine how well he would
iKoFVbhJSYc-00065-00017364-00017593 have expressed those thoughts
iKoFVbhJSYc-00066-00017594-00017963 the man had more wit and style and
iKoFVbhJSYc-00067-00017964-00018214 substance than a few civilizations I
iKoFVbhJSYc-00068-00018215-00018583 could name
iKoFVbhJSYc-00069-00018584-00019199 thank you
iKoFVbhJSYc-00070-00019200-00019408 many people claim to find it impossible
iKoFVbhJSYc-00071-00019409-00019649 to believe or to imagine that they won't
iKoFVbhJSYc-00072-00019650-00019967 exist after death
iKoFVbhJSYc-00073-00019968-00020230 just try it for a second I mean you
iKoFVbhJSYc-00074-00020231-00020411 imagine
iKoFVbhJSYc-00075-00020412-00020693 that everyone in Paris right now is
iKoFVbhJSYc-00076-00020694-00020914 getting along fine without all of us I
iKoFVbhJSYc-00077-00020915-00021161 mean none of us are in Paris we are
iKoFVbhJSYc-00078-00021162-00021436 really really materially absent from
iKoFVbhJSYc-00079-00021437-00021736 whatever is going on in every other City
iKoFVbhJSYc-00080-00021737-00021967 on this planet right now
iKoFVbhJSYc-00081-00021968-00022258 you were absent for all of human history
iKoFVbhJSYc-00082-00022259-00022463 before your birth
iKoFVbhJSYc-00083-00022464-00022703 uh the idea that you that you simply
iKoFVbhJSYc-00084-00022704-00022961 can't imagine not existing after death
iKoFVbhJSYc-00085-00022962-00023249 is really kind of a just for lack of
iKoFVbhJSYc-00086-00023250-00023692 trying I think
iKoFVbhJSYc-00087-00023693-00023944 the deeper Point here and this is where
iKoFVbhJSYc-00088-00023945-00024239 the whole style and content of what
iKoFVbhJSYc-00089-00024240-00024449 you're saying is so deeply unscientific
iKoFVbhJSYc-00090-00024450-00024664 is that there's not there's not a
iKoFVbhJSYc-00091-00024665-00024833 physicist sitting on this stage right
iKoFVbhJSYc-00092-00024834-00025144 now okay I would never be tempted to
iKoFVbhJSYc-00093-00025145-00025372 lecture a room full of a thousand people
iKoFVbhJSYc-00094-00025373-00025684 at Caltech about physics I'm not a
iKoFVbhJSYc-00095-00025685-00025949 physicist you're not a physicist and and
iKoFVbhJSYc-00096-00025950-00026170 and basically every sentence
iKoFVbhJSYc-00097-00026172-00026393 demonstrates that that you speak on the
iKoFVbhJSYc-00098-00026394-00026705 subject now
iKoFVbhJSYc-00099-00026706-00027052 to not believe in God is to know that it
iKoFVbhJSYc-00100-00027054-00027233 falls to us to make the world a better
iKoFVbhJSYc-00101-00027233-00027593 place
iKoFVbhJSYc-00102-00027594-00027874 we have barely emerged
iKoFVbhJSYc-00103-00027875-00028139 from centuries of of barbarism it's not
iKoFVbhJSYc-00104-00028139-00028408 it's not a surprise that there are
iKoFVbhJSYc-00105-00028410-00028607 shocking inequities in this world it is
iKoFVbhJSYc-00106-00028608-00028720 hard work
iKoFVbhJSYc-00107-00028722-00028973 to climb down out of the trees
iKoFVbhJSYc-00108-00028974-00029333 walk upright and build a viable Global
iKoFVbhJSYc-00109-00029333-00029477 civilization when you when you start
iKoFVbhJSYc-00110-00029477-00029668 with technology that's made of rocks and
iKoFVbhJSYc-00111-00029669-00029831 sticks and fur
iKoFVbhJSYc-00112-00029832-00030155 this is this is this is a project and
iKoFVbhJSYc-00113-00030156-00030431 and progress is difficult
iKoFVbhJSYc-00114-00030432-00030695 maybe just just picture going back a
iKoFVbhJSYc-00115-00030695-00030839 hundred Generations
iKoFVbhJSYc-00116-00030839-00031024 within your own family let me just
iKoFVbhJSYc-00117-00031025-00031229 picture picture it kind of mapped onto
iKoFVbhJSYc-00118-00031230-00031487 this room maybe this this front row
iKoFVbhJSYc-00119-00031488-00031714 just a hundred people your father's
iKoFVbhJSYc-00120-00031716-00031883 fathers mothers fathers mothers fathers
iKoFVbhJSYc-00121-00031883-00032129 fathers on back
iKoFVbhJSYc-00122-00032130-00032368 now I don't care how cultured you are
iKoFVbhJSYc-00123-00032369-00032657 what how well educated your family you
iKoFVbhJSYc-00124-00032658-00032837 can be Matthew Chapman whose great great
iKoFVbhJSYc-00125-00032838-00033083 grandfather was Charles Darwin but if
iKoFVbhJSYc-00126-00033084-00033274 you just keep going
iKoFVbhJSYc-00127-00033275-00033623 in no more than 100 conversations
iKoFVbhJSYc-00128-00033624-00033821 you're going to meet someone who thinks
iKoFVbhJSYc-00129-00033822-00034115 that sacrificing your firstborn child
iKoFVbhJSYc-00130-00034116-00034283 just might be a good way to control the
iKoFVbhJSYc-00131-00034284-00034427 weather
iKoFVbhJSYc-00132-00034428-00034757 it is
iKoFVbhJSYc-00133-00034758-00034895 some of you probably don't have to go
iKoFVbhJSYc-00134-00034896-00035179 back quite that far
iKoFVbhJSYc-00135-00035180-00035657 you just have to go home for Christmas
iKoFVbhJSYc-00136-00035658-00035940 okay if you're going to say that that
iKoFVbhJSYc-00137-00035941-00036257 non-locality is is an operable principle
iKoFVbhJSYc-00138-00036258-00036502 in Neuroscience that is woo-woo right
iKoFVbhJSYc-00139-00036503-00036767 now that is their principle in
iKoFVbhJSYc-00140-00036768-00037030 morphogenesis and differentiation it's a
iKoFVbhJSYc-00141-00037031-00037223 principle and the workings of the
iKoFVbhJSYc-00142-00037224-00037433 pacemaker of your heart with a hundred
iKoFVbhJSYc-00143-00037434-00037729 it's not basically
iKoFVbhJSYc-00144-00037730-00037996 non-docally saying it louder and
iKoFVbhJSYc-00145-00037997-00038159 relentlessly is not going to make it
iKoFVbhJSYc-00146-00038160-00038362 true
iKoFVbhJSYc-00147-00038363-00038585 the great irony of the popular
iKoFVbhJSYc-00148-00038586-00038824 conception of science as arrogant is
iKoFVbhJSYc-00149-00038825-00039095 that when you go to a scientific meeting
iKoFVbhJSYc-00150-00039096-00039323 you you don't you don't see arrogance I
iKoFVbhJSYc-00151-00039324-00039473 mean you're about as likely to see real
iKoFVbhJSYc-00152-00039474-00039689 arrogance as you're likely to see nudity
iKoFVbhJSYc-00153-00039690-00039905 in a scientific conference I mean this
iKoFVbhJSYc-00154-00039906-00040273 is this is people are constantly uh
iKoFVbhJSYc-00155-00040274-00040637 offering caveats and hedges toward what
iKoFVbhJSYc-00156-00040638-00040937 they say that every every
iKoFVbhJSYc-00157-00040938-00041183 statement is couched in I'm sure there's
iKoFVbhJSYc-00158-00041184-00041296 someone in the room who knows more about
iKoFVbhJSYc-00159-00041297-00041596 this than me but because everyone is
iKoFVbhJSYc-00160-00041597-00041849 desperate to avoid public embarrassment
iKoFVbhJSYc-00161-00041850-00042005 now this seems to be something you're
iKoFVbhJSYc-00162-00042006-00042221 not uh
iKoFVbhJSYc-00163-00042222-00042562 thank you
iKoFVbhJSYc-00164-00042563-00042821 just just think about the Muslims
iKoFVbhJSYc-00165-00042822-00042977 at this moment who are blowing
iKoFVbhJSYc-00166-00042978-00043129 themselves up
iKoFVbhJSYc-00167-00043130-00043373 convinced that they are agents of God's
iKoFVbhJSYc-00168-00043374-00043630 will there is absolutely nothing that Dr
iKoFVbhJSYc-00169-00043631-00043943 Craig can can say against their behavior
iKoFVbhJSYc-00170-00043944-00044237 in moral terms apart from his own
iKoFVbhJSYc-00171-00044238-00044477 faith-based claim that they're praying
iKoFVbhJSYc-00172-00044478-00044651 to the wrong God
iKoFVbhJSYc-00173-00044652-00044861 if they had the right God what they were
iKoFVbhJSYc-00174-00044862-00045137 doing would be good
iKoFVbhJSYc-00175-00045138-00045383 on Divine command Theory
iKoFVbhJSYc-00176-00045384-00045574 now I'm obviously not saying that all
iKoFVbhJSYc-00177-00045575-00045749 that Dr Craig or all religious people
iKoFVbhJSYc-00178-00045750-00046012 are psychopaths and psychotics but this
iKoFVbhJSYc-00179-00046013-00046271 to me is is the true horror of religion
iKoFVbhJSYc-00180-00046272-00046552 it allows perfectly decent and sane
iKoFVbhJSYc-00181-00046553-00046649 people
iKoFVbhJSYc-00182-00046650-00046918 to believe by the billions
iKoFVbhJSYc-00183-00046919-00047152 what only lunatics could believe on
iKoFVbhJSYc-00184-00047153-00047351 their own okay if you wake up tomorrow
iKoFVbhJSYc-00185-00047352-00047615 morning thinking that saying a few Latin
iKoFVbhJSYc-00186-00047616-00047843 words over your pancakes is going to
iKoFVbhJSYc-00187-00047844-00048101 turn them into the body of Elvis Presley
iKoFVbhJSYc-00188-00048102-00048407 okay you have lost your mind
iKoFVbhJSYc-00189-00048408-00048599 okay but if you think more or less the
iKoFVbhJSYc-00190-00048600-00048779 same thing about a cracker and the body
iKoFVbhJSYc-00191-00048780-00049289 of Jesus you're just a Catholic
iKoFVbhJSYc-00192-00049290-00049474 I think you've put enough on the table
iKoFVbhJSYc-00193-00049475-00049715 okay none of those are scientific
iKoFVbhJSYc-00194-00049716-00050080 evidence many of those claims trespass
iKoFVbhJSYc-00195-00050081-00050321 upon the territory of science overtly
iKoFVbhJSYc-00196-00050322-00050586 the claim about
iKoFVbhJSYc-00197-00050587-00050818 your your understanding other human
iKoFVbhJSYc-00198-00050819-00051150 beings being suggestive of a Divine
iKoFVbhJSYc-00199-00051151-00051400 artificer is that scientific claim
iKoFVbhJSYc-00200-00051401-00051713 absolutely I mean is your understanding
iKoFVbhJSYc-00201-00051714-00051982 of mathematics also suggestive of a
iKoFVbhJSYc-00202-00051983-00052138 Divine artificial you know it has to do
iKoFVbhJSYc-00203-00052139-00052300 with my experience your ability to learn
iKoFVbhJSYc-00204-00052301-00052480 language do you understand it has to do
iKoFVbhJSYc-00205-00052482-00052607 with my experience of you when I'm
iKoFVbhJSYc-00206-00052608-00052882 looking at you right now you may assume
iKoFVbhJSYc-00207-00052883-00053069 that what I see is a material but that's
iKoFVbhJSYc-00208-00053070-00053291 not what I see and it's not what I
iKoFVbhJSYc-00209-00053291-00053494 believe and I think I understand this
iKoFVbhJSYc-00210-00053495-00053771 there's something in you that is more
iKoFVbhJSYc-00211-00053772-00053944 than you believe
iKoFVbhJSYc-00212-00053945-00054232 I really think so this is if you want if
iKoFVbhJSYc-00213-00054233-00054341 you want to make that if you want to
iKoFVbhJSYc-00214-00054341-00054503 make that a scientific plan you can but
iKoFVbhJSYc-00215-00054504-00054629 I'm telling you it's a metaphysical
iKoFVbhJSYc-00216-00054629-00054826 claim and to confuse the two is a
iKoFVbhJSYc-00217-00054827-00055049 mistake okay you you can add any
iKoFVbhJSYc-00218-00055050-00055366 metaphysics you want thank you in that
iKoFVbhJSYc-00219-00055367-00055571 by that means I mean I can say I you
iKoFVbhJSYc-00220-00055572-00055775 know I see you as
iKoFVbhJSYc-00221-00055776-00055973 um reincarnate reincarnate personality
iKoFVbhJSYc-00222-00055974-00056225 and I think you were probably uh
iKoFVbhJSYc-00223-00056226-00056482 obviously famous on Atlantis yes I'm
iKoFVbhJSYc-00224-00056483-00056730 making like a washer woman people
iKoFVbhJSYc-00225-00056732-00057016 do this all the time I mean you can
iKoFVbhJSYc-00226-00057017-00057209 broadcast I mean this is this is
iKoFVbhJSYc-00227-00057210-00057515 constrained by our common sense in every
iKoFVbhJSYc-00228-00057516-00057707 other domain of discourse we just take
iKoFVbhJSYc-00229-00057708-00057965 for example the people who think Elvis
iKoFVbhJSYc-00230-00057966-00058271 is still alive okay what what's wrong
iKoFVbhJSYc-00231-00058272-00058541 with this claim I mean why is this claim
iKoFVbhJSYc-00232-00058541-00058942 not vitiating our academic departments
iKoFVbhJSYc-00233-00058944-00059230 and corporations I mean I'll tell you
iKoFVbhJSYc-00234-00059232-00059392 why and it's very simple we have not
iKoFVbhJSYc-00235-00059394-00059650 passed laws against believing Elvis is
iKoFVbhJSYc-00236-00059651-00059891 still alive it just is the problem is
iKoFVbhJSYc-00237-00059891-00060082 that whenever somebody seriously
iKoFVbhJSYc-00238-00060083-00060335 represents his belief that Elvis is
iKoFVbhJSYc-00239-00060336-00060623 still alive in a conversation in on a
iKoFVbhJSYc-00240-00060624-00060832 first date at a lecture at a job
iKoFVbhJSYc-00241-00060833-00061132 interview he
iKoFVbhJSYc-00242-00061133-00061579 pays a price
iKoFVbhJSYc-00243-00061579-00061900 he pays a price in ill-concealed
iKoFVbhJSYc-00244-00061901-00062123 laughter right now surely you can agree
iKoFVbhJSYc-00245-00062124-00062369 with it that is a good thing now he can
iKoFVbhJSYc-00246-00062370-00062573 then he could rattle on about this is
iKoFVbhJSYc-00247-00062574-00062849 not a scientific claim this is a matter
iKoFVbhJSYc-00248-00062850-00063076 of Faith you know when I look at you I
iKoFVbhJSYc-00249-00063077-00063329 see you might be Elvis I mean he could
iKoFVbhJSYc-00250-00063329-00063626 he could do this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00000-00001784-00001967 well
iLxmnSWWiEk-00001-00001968-00002159 assessment of
iLxmnSWWiEk-00002-00002160-00002407 coating hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-00003-00002408-00002558 now in all
iLxmnSWWiEk-00004-00002559-00002791 coating activity
iLxmnSWWiEk-00005-00002792-00003095 particularly for those coatings
iLxmnSWWiEk-00006-00003096-00003303 which are going to be
iLxmnSWWiEk-00007-00003304-00003567 mechanically functional
iLxmnSWWiEk-00008-00003568-00003654 there
iLxmnSWWiEk-00009-00003655-00003999 this hardness measurement is of
iLxmnSWWiEk-00010-00004000-00004238 prime importance
iLxmnSWWiEk-00011-00004239-00004527 this is because of the simple reason
iLxmnSWWiEk-00012-00004528-00004654 that
iLxmnSWWiEk-00013-00004655-00004999 this hardness on the surface of the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00014-00005000-00005151 coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00015-00005152-00005263 that
iLxmnSWWiEk-00016-00005264-00005591 can act like a guidance
iLxmnSWWiEk-00017-00005592-00005911 or it is an index of
iLxmnSWWiEk-00018-00005912-00006175 the performance of the coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00019-00006176-00006510 particularly in those areas where
iLxmnSWWiEk-00020-00006511-00006670 we need
iLxmnSWWiEk-00021-00006672-00006934 wear resistance on the coating and this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00022-00006936-00007303 coating is going to be used in various
iLxmnSWWiEk-00023-00007304-00007414 kind of
iLxmnSWWiEk-00024-00007415-00007678 sliding action
iLxmnSWWiEk-00025-00007679-00007974 now what happens in this case
iLxmnSWWiEk-00026-00007975-00008183 when a material
iLxmnSWWiEk-00027-00008184-00008327 takes the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00028-00008328-00008671 shape or assume any geometry
iLxmnSWWiEk-00029-00008672-00008951 there also do we need
iLxmnSWWiEk-00030-00008952-00009167 hardness on the material
iLxmnSWWiEk-00031-00009168-00009527 and that we call bulk hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-00032-00009528-00009878 but when this material is synthesized in
iLxmnSWWiEk-00033-00009879-00010110 the form of a coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00034-00010111-00010255 or a film
iLxmnSWWiEk-00035-00010256-00010391 that we call
iLxmnSWWiEk-00036-00010392-00010655 the hardness of the coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00037-00010656-00010942 now this hardness of the coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00038-00010943-00011183 this depends upon primarily on the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00039-00011184-00011471 material of construction that means the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00040-00011472-00011774 material which is going to be used for
iLxmnSWWiEk-00041-00011775-00012006 building the coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00042-00012007-00012110 plus
iLxmnSWWiEk-00043-00012111-00012399 various aspect of this coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00044-00012400-00012646 right from physical to
iLxmnSWWiEk-00045-00012647-00012894 chemical that means
iLxmnSWWiEk-00046-00012895-00012999 the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00047-00013000-00013375 structure of the coating its morphology
iLxmnSWWiEk-00048-00013376-00013630 ah then say for example
iLxmnSWWiEk-00049-00013631-00013886 morphology within the morphology we
iLxmnSWWiEk-00050-00013887-00014047 should consider
iLxmnSWWiEk-00051-00014047-00014294 the porosity density
iLxmnSWWiEk-00052-00014295-00014558 the structure how it is built whether it
iLxmnSWWiEk-00053-00014559-00014686 is a porous
iLxmnSWWiEk-00054-00014687-00014958 columnar structure or dense columnar
iLxmnSWWiEk-00055-00014959-00015079 structure
iLxmnSWWiEk-00056-00015080-00015375 or it is an equiaxed one
iLxmnSWWiEk-00057-00015376-00015535 this is one thing
iLxmnSWWiEk-00058-00015536-00015711 whether this is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00059-00015712-00015886 um
iLxmnSWWiEk-00060-00015887-00016063 substitutiometric
iLxmnSWWiEk-00061-00016063-00016439 or really it is a stoichiometric coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00062-00016440-00016775 then comes also one important thing
iLxmnSWWiEk-00063-00016776-00017086 that the stress which is built up within
iLxmnSWWiEk-00064-00017087-00017343 the coating whether the coating is too
iLxmnSWWiEk-00065-00017344-00017439 brittle
iLxmnSWWiEk-00066-00017440-00017767 so all these issues should be considered
iLxmnSWWiEk-00067-00017768-00017999 before putting this coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00068-00018000-00018350 in any functional application
iLxmnSWWiEk-00069-00018351-00018622 and in the whole process this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00070-00018623-00018903 measurement of surface hardness of the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00071-00018904-00019255 coating this is an important step
iLxmnSWWiEk-00072-00019256-00019519 and this is an important step
iLxmnSWWiEk-00073-00019520-00019594 in
iLxmnSWWiEk-00074-00019595-00019839 characterization of the coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00075-00019840-00020127 so what we can say reasonably
iLxmnSWWiEk-00076-00020128-00020399 that this is going to be a preliminary
iLxmnSWWiEk-00077-00020400-00020519 screening
iLxmnSWWiEk-00078-00020520-00020839 of the coating and if we have adequate
iLxmnSWWiEk-00079-00020840-00020950 hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-00080-00020951-00021255 because the film material which is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00081-00021256-00021607 already known for its bulk property
iLxmnSWWiEk-00082-00021608-00022014 so by this various coating process
iLxmnSWWiEk-00083-00022015-00022271 by particularly correct choice of the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00084-00022272-00022519 process parameters
iLxmnSWWiEk-00085-00022520-00022911 we can indeed achieve a very
iLxmnSWWiEk-00086-00022912-00023239 good value of this hardness and which
iLxmnSWWiEk-00087-00023240-00023567 may not be attainable by the bulk so
iLxmnSWWiEk-00088-00023568-00023919 here also the importance of hardness of
iLxmnSWWiEk-00089-00023920-00024071 this coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00090-00024072-00024142 is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00091-00024143-00024350 can be understandable
iLxmnSWWiEk-00092-00024351-00024478 and this is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00093-00024479-00024919 what we can summarize as significance of
iLxmnSWWiEk-00094-00024920-00025335 surface hardness of the coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00095-00025336-00025455 now here
iLxmnSWWiEk-00096-00025456-00025599 what we find
iLxmnSWWiEk-00097-00025600-00025694 that
iLxmnSWWiEk-00098-00025695-00025894 this hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-00099-00025895-00026246 this is actually a technique of
iLxmnSWWiEk-00100-00026247-00026383 measurement
iLxmnSWWiEk-00101-00026383-00026614 and in this technique of measurement
iLxmnSWWiEk-00102-00026616-00026990 this is already well as well established
iLxmnSWWiEk-00103-00026991-00027318 techniques what we are showing here that
iLxmnSWWiEk-00104-00027319-00027623 means macro hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-00105-00027624-00027718 then
iLxmnSWWiEk-00106-00027719-00028070 we have micro hardness and finally it
iLxmnSWWiEk-00107-00028072-00028246 comes to
iLxmnSWWiEk-00108-00028247-00028327 the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00109-00028327-00028495 ultra
iLxmnSWWiEk-00110-00028495-00028943 micro hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-00111-00028944-00029062 so
iLxmnSWWiEk-00112-00029063-00029327 macro hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-00113-00029327-00029695 that is mostly applicable for
iLxmnSWWiEk-00114-00029695-00029823 a bulk
iLxmnSWWiEk-00115-00029824-00030055 material
iLxmnSWWiEk-00116-00030056-00030207 that means
iLxmnSWWiEk-00117-00030208-00030407 the material is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00118-00030408-00030583 created
iLxmnSWWiEk-00119-00030583-00030727 by some
iLxmnSWWiEk-00120-00030727-00030883 metallurgical
iLxmnSWWiEk-00121-00030883-00031118 process and
iLxmnSWWiEk-00122-00031119-00031327 after that
iLxmnSWWiEk-00123-00031327-00031511 we should
iLxmnSWWiEk-00124-00031512-00031823 assess its bulk hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-00125-00031824-00031983 and in that
iLxmnSWWiEk-00126-00031983-00032102 there are
iLxmnSWWiEk-00127-00032103-00032335 standard processes
iLxmnSWWiEk-00128-00032336-00032446 like
iLxmnSWWiEk-00129-00032447-00032751 brainell hardness testing
iLxmnSWWiEk-00130-00032752-00032855 or
iLxmnSWWiEk-00131-00032856-00033127 rock well hardness testing
iLxmnSWWiEk-00132-00033128-00033351 so these are the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00133-00033352-00033559 routine thing
iLxmnSWWiEk-00134-00033560-00033895 for measuring or assessing the macro
iLxmnSWWiEk-00135-00033896-00034023 hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-00136-00034024-00034327 so it is just to introduce this thing
iLxmnSWWiEk-00137-00034328-00034567 how it is done
iLxmnSWWiEk-00138-00034568-00034831 so it is a ball
iLxmnSWWiEk-00139-00034832-00035446 which is going to be the indenter
iLxmnSWWiEk-00140-00035447-00035679 and then
iLxmnSWWiEk-00141-00035680-00035871 we have the material
iLxmnSWWiEk-00142-00035872-00036118 which is going to be tested
iLxmnSWWiEk-00143-00036119-00036351 that mean this is the material
iLxmnSWWiEk-00144-00036352-00036462 and then
iLxmnSWWiEk-00145-00036463-00036807 loading has to be done from this side
iLxmnSWWiEk-00146-00036808-00037199 and there we expect little bit of
iLxmnSWWiEk-00147-00037200-00037359 deformation
iLxmnSWWiEk-00148-00037360-00037502 on this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00149-00037503-00037774 specimen
iLxmnSWWiEk-00150-00037775-00037974 and this is done
iLxmnSWWiEk-00151-00037975-00038135 by this ball
iLxmnSWWiEk-00152-00038136-00038374 so this ball
iLxmnSWWiEk-00153-00038375-00038735 curvature that will be produced here and
iLxmnSWWiEk-00154-00038736-00039143 this is going to be the deformation
iLxmnSWWiEk-00155-00039144-00039495 and this deformation
iLxmnSWWiEk-00156-00039496-00039718 is an index of
iLxmnSWWiEk-00157-00039719-00039879 this hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-00158-00039880-00040071 but in in
iLxmnSWWiEk-00159-00040072-00040295 brainell hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-00160-00040296-00040455 testing
iLxmnSWWiEk-00161-00040456-00040759 one number is introduced and that is we
iLxmnSWWiEk-00162-00040760-00041007 call brunel hardness number
iLxmnSWWiEk-00163-00041008-00041279 and that is given by this load
iLxmnSWWiEk-00164-00041280-00041671 divided by this area under indentation
iLxmnSWWiEk-00165-00041672-00041911 so if this is the diameter of the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00166-00041912-00042079 indentation
iLxmnSWWiEk-00167-00042080-00042343 then this d and h
iLxmnSWWiEk-00168-00042344-00042583 they have certain relation
iLxmnSWWiEk-00169-00042584-00042751 with a given
iLxmnSWWiEk-00170-00042752-00042974 diameter of the ball
iLxmnSWWiEk-00171-00042975-00043358 so this can be reasonably
iLxmnSWWiEk-00172-00043359-00043483 written
iLxmnSWWiEk-00173-00043484-00043855 as pi into d
iLxmnSWWiEk-00174-00043856-00044023 root over
iLxmnSWWiEk-00175-00044024-00044167 d
iLxmnSWWiEk-00176-00044168-00044407 minus
iLxmnSWWiEk-00177-00044408-00045174 u
iLxmnSWWiEk-00178-00045175-00045518 sorry so this is actually going to be
iLxmnSWWiEk-00179-00045519-00045758 the value of h
iLxmnSWWiEk-00180-00045759-00046158 and from this value of h and this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00181-00046159-00046423 diameter of the ball this is this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00182-00046424-00046671 denominator is going to
iLxmnSWWiEk-00183-00046672-00047015 give this area under indentation so it
iLxmnSWWiEk-00184-00047016-00047439 is actually pi d into h and this h is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00185-00047440-00047702 geometrically related
iLxmnSWWiEk-00186-00047703-00048167 by this capital d square minus
iLxmnSWWiEk-00187-00048168-00048446 within bracket d minus capital d minus
iLxmnSWWiEk-00188-00048447-00048623 small d whole square
iLxmnSWWiEk-00189-00048624-00048895 so this is actually the brunel hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-00190-00048896-00048999 number
iLxmnSWWiEk-00191-00049000-00049318 in fact this is load divided by
iLxmnSWWiEk-00192-00049319-00049543 area under indentation
iLxmnSWWiEk-00193-00049544-00049758 obviously the accuracy of this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00194-00049759-00050071 measurement depends upon the rigidity of
iLxmnSWWiEk-00195-00050072-00050399 the ball which is going to be a hardened
iLxmnSWWiEk-00196-00050400-00050799 steel ball so obviously the hardness of
iLxmnSWWiEk-00197-00050800-00051007 the surface
iLxmnSWWiEk-00198-00051008-00051143 and the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00199-00051144-00051382 hardness of the ball there is some
iLxmnSWWiEk-00200-00051383-00051519 restriction
iLxmnSWWiEk-00201-00051520-00051766 in use of this process so if this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00202-00051767-00051902 surface is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00203-00051903-00052182 very hard then this process is not
iLxmnSWWiEk-00204-00052183-00052366 recommended because
iLxmnSWWiEk-00205-00052367-00052687 with high value of load there could be
iLxmnSWWiEk-00206-00052688-00052782 some
iLxmnSWWiEk-00207-00052783-00053079 local deformation or bulk deformation of
iLxmnSWWiEk-00208-00053079-00053182 the ball
iLxmnSWWiEk-00209-00053183-00053375 and the whole process
iLxmnSWWiEk-00210-00053376-00053894 there may be some error may creep in
iLxmnSWWiEk-00211-00053895-00054142 so these are the limitation so this is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00212-00054144-00054526 load divided by area under indentation
iLxmnSWWiEk-00213-00054527-00054782 now here what we can find
iLxmnSWWiEk-00214-00054783-00054959 that
iLxmnSWWiEk-00215-00054960-00055111 rockwell
iLxmnSWWiEk-00216-00055112-00055742 rockwell number
iLxmnSWWiEk-00217-00055744-00056479 rockwell hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-00218-00056479-00056759 this is not load divided by area under
iLxmnSWWiEk-00219-00056760-00057119 indentation but this is a number which
iLxmnSWWiEk-00220-00057120-00057359 can be given in the form
iLxmnSWWiEk-00221-00057360-00057703 c 1 minus c 2 into
iLxmnSWWiEk-00222-00057704-00057871 delta t
iLxmnSWWiEk-00223-00057872-00058199 now this delta t is actually
iLxmnSWWiEk-00224-00058200-00058391 this is the surface
iLxmnSWWiEk-00225-00058391-00058542 and on that
iLxmnSWWiEk-00226-00058544-00058887 we have one indenter and this indenter
iLxmnSWWiEk-00227-00058888-00059215 is actually sharp point and in this case
iLxmnSWWiEk-00228-00059216-00059519 it is actually a diamond cone
iLxmnSWWiEk-00229-00059520-00059759 which is called di brill
iLxmnSWWiEk-00230-00059760-00060026 so this diamond cone with
iLxmnSWWiEk-00231-00060027-00060447 136 degree this cone angle that is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00232-00060448-00060703 pressed against this material
iLxmnSWWiEk-00233-00060704-00060894 and in this case
iLxmnSWWiEk-00234-00060895-00061054 what we measure
iLxmnSWWiEk-00235-00061055-00061350 so there is one minor load
iLxmnSWWiEk-00236-00061351-00061575 and a major load
iLxmnSWWiEk-00237-00061576-00061911 so this is actually minor load and then
iLxmnSWWiEk-00238-00061912-00062159 there is a major load by
iLxmnSWWiEk-00239-00062160-00062559 adding someone some load here so when
iLxmnSWWiEk-00240-00062560-00062838 this p0 plus p1
iLxmnSWWiEk-00241-00062839-00062942 added
iLxmnSWWiEk-00242-00062944-00063263 later on that becomes the major load
iLxmnSWWiEk-00243-00063264-00063375 so
iLxmnSWWiEk-00244-00063376-00063654 we have actually
iLxmnSWWiEk-00245-00063655-00063975 penetration because of p o
iLxmnSWWiEk-00246-00063976-00064254 and then penetration because of
iLxmnSWWiEk-00247-00064255-00064559 h
iLxmnSWWiEk-00248-00064560-00064894 penetration h because of this total load
iLxmnSWWiEk-00249-00064895-00065319 p o plus p 1 and that gives us h
iLxmnSWWiEk-00250-00065320-00065559 and this penetration
iLxmnSWWiEk-00251-00065560-00065703 is measured
iLxmnSWWiEk-00252-00065704-00065847 after
iLxmnSWWiEk-00253-00065848-00066175 removal of this additional load but
iLxmnSWWiEk-00254-00066176-00066423 retaining the original
iLxmnSWWiEk-00255-00066424-00066694 primary load so this is the initial load
iLxmnSWWiEk-00256-00066695-00066831 remains there
iLxmnSWWiEk-00257-00066832-00067111 and then we measure h
iLxmnSWWiEk-00258-00067112-00067311 so this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00259-00067312-00067663 h minus h o that is actually the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00260-00067664-00067815 penetration
iLxmnSWWiEk-00261-00067816-00067975 and that is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00262-00067976-00068303 ah in fact that equal to delta t
iLxmnSWWiEk-00263-00068304-00068559 so this is actually penetration
iLxmnSWWiEk-00264-00068560-00068926 however brunel number is given
iLxmnSWWiEk-00265-00068927-00069126 following this equation
iLxmnSWWiEk-00266-00069127-00069319 that means
iLxmnSWWiEk-00267-00069320-00069631 higher the penetration lower will be the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00268-00069632-00069887 number and lower the penetration higher
iLxmnSWWiEk-00269-00069888-00070038 will be the number
iLxmnSWWiEk-00270-00070039-00070471 and this equation can show that number
iLxmnSWWiEk-00271-00070472-00070735 now here
iLxmnSWWiEk-00272-00070736-00070982 so
iLxmnSWWiEk-00273-00070983-00071231 each
iLxmnSWWiEk-00274-00071232-00071519 ah one unit of this rockwell hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-00275-00071520-00071782 that is equivalent to point zero zero
iLxmnSWWiEk-00276-00071783-00071950 two millimeter
iLxmnSWWiEk-00277-00071951-00072359 that means this is equal to two micron
iLxmnSWWiEk-00278-00072360-00072543 that means
iLxmnSWWiEk-00279-00072544-00072647 a
iLxmnSWWiEk-00280-00072648-00072967 penetration of two micron
iLxmnSWWiEk-00281-00072968-00073350 that is equivalent to one unit of this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00282-00073351-00073575 rockwell hardness number
iLxmnSWWiEk-00283-00073576-00073655 so
iLxmnSWWiEk-00284-00073656-00073894 harder the material less will be the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00285-00073895-00074167 penetration naturally since c one is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00286-00074168-00074447 positive so that will give us
iLxmnSWWiEk-00287-00074448-00074599 a
iLxmnSWWiEk-00288-00074600-00074767 higher value
iLxmnSWWiEk-00289-00074768-00075015 now these are the two
iLxmnSWWiEk-00290-00075016-00075335 though they are useful but they are in
iLxmnSWWiEk-00291-00075336-00075462 the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00292-00075463-00075726 domain of macro hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-00293-00075727-00076015 and in the macro hardness we have also
iLxmnSWWiEk-00294-00076016-00076350 seen that the load is quite high
iLxmnSWWiEk-00295-00076351-00076503 and
iLxmnSWWiEk-00296-00076504-00076655 with this load
iLxmnSWWiEk-00297-00076656-00076791 normally
iLxmnSWWiEk-00298-00076792-00076967 the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00299-00076968-00077343 bulk hardness is assessed
iLxmnSWWiEk-00300-00077344-00077479 now comes
iLxmnSWWiEk-00301-00077480-00077671 the micro hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-00302-00077672-00077894 so micro hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-00303-00077895-00078143 actually it is how
iLxmnSWWiEk-00304-00078144-00078415 this whole load is controlled what is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00305-00078416-00078519 the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00306-00078520-00078847 magnitude of the load and what is the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00307-00078848-00079135 penetration depth say for example
iLxmnSWWiEk-00308-00079136-00079375 this is penetration depth or here this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00309-00079376-00079567 is the penetration depth
iLxmnSWWiEk-00310-00079568-00079911 and this is just not few micron
iLxmnSWWiEk-00311-00079912-00080303 but micro hardness when we talk about
iLxmnSWWiEk-00312-00080304-00080655 micro hardness this penetration depth
iLxmnSWWiEk-00313-00080656-00081023 that may be within few tens of micron or
iLxmnSWWiEk-00314-00081024-00081150 it can be
iLxmnSWWiEk-00315-00081151-00081471 even reduce or
iLxmnSWWiEk-00316-00081472-00081647 confined within
iLxmnSWWiEk-00317-00081648-00081862 tens of a micron
iLxmnSWWiEk-00318-00081863-00082247 the whole idea here is that
iLxmnSWWiEk-00319-00082248-00082431 in a material
iLxmnSWWiEk-00320-00082432-00082655 after the heat treatment
iLxmnSWWiEk-00321-00082656-00082999 or as a as such the material can have
iLxmnSWWiEk-00322-00083000-00083191 different phases
iLxmnSWWiEk-00323-00083192-00083294 on the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00324-00083295-00083447 top surface
iLxmnSWWiEk-00325-00083448-00083623 and each phase
iLxmnSWWiEk-00326-00083624-00083903 has its own characteristics
iLxmnSWWiEk-00327-00083904-00084167 and one of the characteristics will be
iLxmnSWWiEk-00328-00084168-00084238 some
iLxmnSWWiEk-00329-00084239-00084567 mechanical property and that can be
iLxmnSWWiEk-00330-00084568-00084862 very well identified as one of the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00331-00084863-00084975 hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-00332-00084976-00085238 so one phase may show
iLxmnSWWiEk-00333-00085239-00085559 one level of hardness while the another
iLxmnSWWiEk-00334-00085560-00085638 phase
iLxmnSWWiEk-00335-00085639-00085950 that can be quite high or quite low
iLxmnSWWiEk-00336-00085951-00086206 so with this micro hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-00337-00086207-00086503 technique or the apparatus
iLxmnSWWiEk-00338-00086504-00086726 one should be able to
iLxmnSWWiEk-00339-00086727-00087087 determine the hardness of each phase
iLxmnSWWiEk-00340-00087088-00087423 so that area can be well recognized and
iLxmnSWWiEk-00341-00087424-00087679 focused under the microscope
iLxmnSWWiEk-00342-00087680-00087815 and with this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00343-00087816-00088143 diamond pointed indenter with a
iLxmnSWWiEk-00344-00088144-00088471 particular load it should be possible to
iLxmnSWWiEk-00345-00088472-00088599 determine
iLxmnSWWiEk-00346-00088600-00088935 the micro hardness in a particular
iLxmnSWWiEk-00347-00088936-00089111 location
iLxmnSWWiEk-00348-00089112-00089438 indicating one particular phase so this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00349-00089439-00089631 is number one
iLxmnSWWiEk-00350-00089632-00089862 and what is number two
iLxmnSWWiEk-00351-00089863-00090150 in a manufactured surface which is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00352-00090151-00090335 already machined
iLxmnSWWiEk-00353-00090336-00090479 ground
iLxmnSWWiEk-00354-00090480-00090582 and
iLxmnSWWiEk-00355-00090583-00090959 already attained some finish which is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00356-00090960-00091279 totally complete the job is complete in
iLxmnSWWiEk-00357-00091280-00091455 every respect
iLxmnSWWiEk-00358-00091456-00091767 and in that case if one like to
iLxmnSWWiEk-00359-00091768-00092031 assess the hardness of the finished
iLxmnSWWiEk-00360-00092032-00092135 product
iLxmnSWWiEk-00361-00092136-00092326 in that case also
iLxmnSWWiEk-00362-00092327-00092671 this micro hardness can find its use
iLxmnSWWiEk-00363-00092672-00092999 because this is not going to make any
iLxmnSWWiEk-00364-00093000-00093318 dent on this surface superficial or very
iLxmnSWWiEk-00365-00093319-00093679 visual so it is just in the micron level
iLxmnSWWiEk-00366-00093680-00093982 but quality control can be very well
iLxmnSWWiEk-00367-00093983-00094062 done
iLxmnSWWiEk-00368-00094063-00094359 and by this process also
iLxmnSWWiEk-00369-00094360-00094591 the surface
iLxmnSWWiEk-00370-00094592-00094847 mechanical hardness value
iLxmnSWWiEk-00371-00094848-00095255 can be very well assessed on a otherwise
iLxmnSWWiEk-00372-00095256-00095567 complete job
iLxmnSWWiEk-00373-00095568-00095767 now the question is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00374-00095768-00096079 we are talking about coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00375-00096080-00096343 the coating means here we are not
iLxmnSWWiEk-00376-00096344-00096735 referring to measurement of hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-00377-00096736-00097143 on on a bulk on a bulk geometry but on a
iLxmnSWWiEk-00378-00097144-00097262 coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00379-00097263-00097494 so
iLxmnSWWiEk-00380-00097495-00097703 if we put this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00381-00097704-00097967 illustration
iLxmnSWWiEk-00382-00097968-00098159 this is a coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00383-00098160-00098415 and then just beneath it
iLxmnSWWiEk-00384-00098416-00098759 we have the substrate
iLxmnSWWiEk-00385-00098760-00099174 so this is coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00386-00099175-00099382 and substrate
iLxmnSWWiEk-00387-00099383-00099559 in that case
iLxmnSWWiEk-00388-00099560-00099887 this micro hardness indenter which we
iLxmnSWWiEk-00389-00099888-00099967 call
iLxmnSWWiEk-00390-00099968-00100287 weakers
iLxmnSWWiEk-00391-00100288-00100462 weakers
iLxmnSWWiEk-00392-00100463-00101055 indenter
iLxmnSWWiEk-00393-00101056-00101374 wickers indenter and it is actually a
iLxmnSWWiEk-00394-00101375-00101591 square pyramid
iLxmnSWWiEk-00395-00101592-00101743 that means
iLxmnSWWiEk-00396-00101744-00101991 ah in brunel
iLxmnSWWiEk-00397-00101992-00102279 a ball is used say 10 millimeter
iLxmnSWWiEk-00398-00102280-00102478 diameter ball
iLxmnSWWiEk-00399-00102479-00102558 in
iLxmnSWWiEk-00400-00102559-00102686 rockwell
iLxmnSWWiEk-00401-00102688-00102975 we use a diamond cone
iLxmnSWWiEk-00402-00102976-00103206 but in this case
iLxmnSWWiEk-00403-00103207-00103286 a
iLxmnSWWiEk-00404-00103288-00103654 square pyramid that is used as one
iLxmnSWWiEk-00405-00103655-00103958 indenter and we can
iLxmnSWWiEk-00406-00103959-00104263 show this thing it is having this shape
iLxmnSWWiEk-00407-00104264-00104558 it is like a square pyramid and these
iLxmnSWWiEk-00408-00104559-00104710 are the slant
iLxmnSWWiEk-00409-00104711-00104863 surfaces
iLxmnSWWiEk-00410-00104864-00105231 and this pyramid has certain geometry
iLxmnSWWiEk-00411-00105232-00105351 that means
iLxmnSWWiEk-00412-00105352-00105727 between the slant faces we have one
iLxmnSWWiEk-00413-00105728-00105990 angle up between the faces
iLxmnSWWiEk-00414-00105991-00106158 between the faces
iLxmnSWWiEk-00415-00106159-00106315 it is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00416-00106316-00106527 136 degree
iLxmnSWWiEk-00417-00106528-00106743 and between the edges
iLxmnSWWiEk-00418-00106744-00106931 it is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00419-00106932-00107231 148 degrees so
iLxmnSWWiEk-00420-00107232-00107407 these are the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00421-00107408-00107534 geometry
iLxmnSWWiEk-00422-00107535-00107690 geometrical
iLxmnSWWiEk-00423-00107691-00108039 characteristics and at the same time
iLxmnSWWiEk-00424-00108040-00108375 if we consider this diagonal of this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00425-00108376-00108519 square base
iLxmnSWWiEk-00426-00108520-00108710 then this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00427-00108711-00108999 ah indentation that means
iLxmnSWWiEk-00428-00109000-00109143 h
iLxmnSWWiEk-00429-00109144-00109327 by d
iLxmnSWWiEk-00430-00109328-00109654 h by d is going to be
iLxmnSWWiEk-00431-00109655-00109927 about 1 upon 7
iLxmnSWWiEk-00432-00109928-00110054 that means
iLxmnSWWiEk-00433-00110055-00110486 if we make one impression on any surface
iLxmnSWWiEk-00434-00110488-00110854 and if we measure the diagonal d in that
iLxmnSWWiEk-00435-00110855-00111110 case the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00436-00111111-00111415 penetration depth will be one
iLxmnSWWiEk-00437-00111416-00111727 seventh of that diagonal of this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00438-00111728-00112023 indentation so that is the ratio which
iLxmnSWWiEk-00439-00112024-00112263 is governed by this geometry
iLxmnSWWiEk-00440-00112264-00112575 so anyway this square base
iLxmnSWWiEk-00441-00112576-00112958 pyramid if we if it is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00442-00112959-00113286 used for indenting then what is going to
iLxmnSWWiEk-00443-00113288-00113390 happen
iLxmnSWWiEk-00444-00113391-00113483 this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00445-00113483-00113751 is the pyramid
iLxmnSWWiEk-00446-00113752-00113958 and in this case
iLxmnSWWiEk-00447-00113959-00114158 we expect
iLxmnSWWiEk-00448-00114159-00114519 an indentation almost like this leaving
iLxmnSWWiEk-00449-00114520-00114702 this impression
iLxmnSWWiEk-00450-00114703-00114854 and
iLxmnSWWiEk-00451-00114855-00115534 one can measure this diagonal this is d
iLxmnSWWiEk-00452-00115535-00115758 we have two diagonals so
iLxmnSWWiEk-00453-00115759-00116063 in all practical for all practical
iLxmnSWWiEk-00454-00116064-00116207 purpose
iLxmnSWWiEk-00455-00116208-00116415 we have to take the mean of these two
iLxmnSWWiEk-00456-00116416-00116751 diagonal and after that the hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-00457-00116752-00116847 value
iLxmnSWWiEk-00458-00116848-00117047 can be written as
iLxmnSWWiEk-00459-00117048-00117151 2 p
iLxmnSWWiEk-00460-00117152-00117286 sine
iLxmnSWWiEk-00461-00117288-00117647 alpha by 2 d square and where this alpha
iLxmnSWWiEk-00462-00117648-00118039 is this 136 degree that means between
iLxmnSWWiEk-00463-00118040-00118199 these two faces
iLxmnSWWiEk-00464-00118200-00118495 and this can be rewritten
iLxmnSWWiEk-00465-00118496-00118863 1.8544
iLxmnSWWiEk-00466-00118864-00119102 it comes out to be
iLxmnSWWiEk-00467-00119103-00119302 eight five four four
iLxmnSWWiEk-00468-00119303-00119583 into p by d square
iLxmnSWWiEk-00469-00119583-00119895 so d is the diagonal length p is the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00470-00119896-00120223 applied load which can be say one
iLxmnSWWiEk-00471-00120224-00120454 kilogram
iLxmnSWWiEk-00472-00120455-00120783 to it can go up to 2 k
iLxmnSWWiEk-00473-00120783-00121127 it can go up to few kilogram so it can
iLxmnSWWiEk-00474-00121128-00121495 start with say 10 grams 5 grams and it
iLxmnSWWiEk-00475-00121496-00121871 can go up to 1 kilogram of force
iLxmnSWWiEk-00476-00121872-00122271 not to not to exceed this value but for
iLxmnSWWiEk-00477-00122272-00122375 most
iLxmnSWWiEk-00478-00122376-00122847 ah measurement it is within a kilo maybe
iLxmnSWWiEk-00479-00122848-00123054 50 grams or
iLxmnSWWiEk-00480-00123055-00123358 10 grams that is the limit where
iLxmnSWWiEk-00481-00123359-00123671 all this surface happiness measurement
iLxmnSWWiEk-00482-00123672-00124023 has to be done
iLxmnSWWiEk-00483-00124024-00124239 in addition to this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00484-00124240-00124454 weakers indenter
iLxmnSWWiEk-00485-00124455-00124766 we have also what we call
iLxmnSWWiEk-00486-00124767-00125486 nope hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-00487-00125488-00125678 so in this case
iLxmnSWWiEk-00488-00125679-00125831 instead of
iLxmnSWWiEk-00489-00125832-00126214 this square base pyramid what is taken
iLxmnSWWiEk-00490-00126215-00126431 in this case it is going to be a
iLxmnSWWiEk-00491-00126432-00126583 rhomboidal
iLxmnSWWiEk-00492-00126583-00127071 so it is a rhombus
iLxmnSWWiEk-00493-00127072-00127454 and in this case in this rhombus
iLxmnSWWiEk-00494-00127455-00127575 we have
iLxmnSWWiEk-00495-00127576-00127886 two edges like these are the two edges
iLxmnSWWiEk-00496-00127888-00128119 or these are the two edges
iLxmnSWWiEk-00497-00128120-00128271 and
iLxmnSWWiEk-00498-00128272-00128543 this age angle varies
iLxmnSWWiEk-00499-00128544-00128678 so the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00500-00128679-00129031 age angle will be in one case it comes
iLxmnSWWiEk-00501-00129032-00129258 out to be around
iLxmnSWWiEk-00502-00129259-00129478 171 degree
iLxmnSWWiEk-00503-00129479-00129927 and the lowest one is around 130 degree
iLxmnSWWiEk-00504-00129928-00130207 and with this that is the proportion
iLxmnSWWiEk-00505-00130208-00130358 and with that
iLxmnSWWiEk-00506-00130359-00130631 this h by l
iLxmnSWWiEk-00507-00130632-00130958 now here we introduce another term what
iLxmnSWWiEk-00508-00130959-00131119 we call l
iLxmnSWWiEk-00509-00131120-00131239 that means
iLxmnSWWiEk-00510-00131240-00131543 length of the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00511-00131544-00131854 length of the longer diagonal length of
iLxmnSWWiEk-00512-00131855-00132039 that longer diagonal
iLxmnSWWiEk-00513-00132040-00132263 that we have to consider
iLxmnSWWiEk-00514-00132264-00132423 and with that
iLxmnSWWiEk-00515-00132424-00132519 this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00516-00132520-00132654 ratio
iLxmnSWWiEk-00517-00132655-00133039 this h by here we have to write l
iLxmnSWWiEk-00518-00133040-00133351 that comes out to be as high as
iLxmnSWWiEk-00519-00133352-00133431 one
iLxmnSWWiEk-00520-00133432-00133614 one upon thirty
iLxmnSWWiEk-00521-00133615-00133871 so this is one upon seven
iLxmnSWWiEk-00522-00133872-00134190 and this is one upon thirty now what is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00523-00134191-00134519 the advantage with this no hardness what
iLxmnSWWiEk-00524-00134520-00134863 we can see that penetration depth is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00525-00134864-00135102 less with the same load
iLxmnSWWiEk-00526-00135103-00135271 so with that
iLxmnSWWiEk-00527-00135272-00135551 it would be advantageous
iLxmnSWWiEk-00528-00135552-00135911 in measuring the hardness of the coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00529-00135912-00136343 whose thickness is also specified
iLxmnSWWiEk-00530-00136344-00136423 so
iLxmnSWWiEk-00531-00136424-00136711 this is one consideration
iLxmnSWWiEk-00532-00136712-00136935 one can make while
iLxmnSWWiEk-00533-00136936-00137199 measuring the surface hardness of the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00534-00137200-00137359 coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00535-00137360-00137607 either with this noob hardness or
iLxmnSWWiEk-00536-00137608-00137902 vickers indenter but here this will be
iLxmnSWWiEk-00537-00137903-00138063 the first choice
iLxmnSWWiEk-00538-00138064-00138247 this is number one
iLxmnSWWiEk-00539-00138248-00138527 and number two since this penetration
iLxmnSWWiEk-00540-00138528-00138711 depth is less
iLxmnSWWiEk-00541-00138712-00139054 for a harder coating say its a ceramic
iLxmnSWWiEk-00542-00139055-00139175 coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00543-00139176-00139478 chances of crack formation or crack
iLxmnSWWiEk-00544-00139479-00139831 propagation because of this indentation
iLxmnSWWiEk-00545-00139832-00139943 force
iLxmnSWWiEk-00546-00139944-00140271 it is actually it is causing some
iLxmnSWWiEk-00547-00140272-00140471 plastic deformation
iLxmnSWWiEk-00548-00140472-00140719 in fact hardness means
iLxmnSWWiEk-00549-00140720-00141031 resistance to penetration or resistance
iLxmnSWWiEk-00550-00141032-00141231 to plastic deformation
iLxmnSWWiEk-00551-00141232-00141463 now if we allow
iLxmnSWWiEk-00552-00141464-00141807 too much of indentation depth then there
iLxmnSWWiEk-00553-00141808-00142151 is every chance risk that
iLxmnSWWiEk-00554-00142152-00142366 this ceramic coating or
iLxmnSWWiEk-00555-00142367-00142543 ultra hard coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00556-00142544-00142839 can open up just by
iLxmnSWWiEk-00557-00142840-00143111 through a crack propagation so for that
iLxmnSWWiEk-00558-00143112-00143223 also
iLxmnSWWiEk-00559-00143224-00143519 this noop hardness this technique
iLxmnSWWiEk-00560-00143520-00143823 is found to be advantageous
iLxmnSWWiEk-00561-00143824-00143966 however
iLxmnSWWiEk-00562-00143967-00144151 one thing
iLxmnSWWiEk-00563-00144152-00144335 one has to
iLxmnSWWiEk-00564-00144336-00144487 look
iLxmnSWWiEk-00565-00144488-00144623 that
iLxmnSWWiEk-00566-00144624-00144759 this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00567-00144760-00145007 technique whether it is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00568-00145008-00145223 ah
iLxmnSWWiEk-00569-00145224-00145590 rock coil vickers hardness tester
iLxmnSWWiEk-00570-00145591-00145702 or
iLxmnSWWiEk-00571-00145703-00145959 nope hardness tester
iLxmnSWWiEk-00572-00145960-00146087 that
iLxmnSWWiEk-00573-00146088-00146390 this depth of
iLxmnSWWiEk-00574-00146391-00146543 penetration
iLxmnSWWiEk-00575-00146544-00146639 that
iLxmnSWWiEk-00576-00146640-00146871 should not exist
iLxmnSWWiEk-00577-00146872-00147254 exceed the coating thickness so that is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00578-00147255-00147431 one of the issue
iLxmnSWWiEk-00579-00147432-00147590 one has to
iLxmnSWWiEk-00580-00147591-00147871 look
iLxmnSWWiEk-00581-00147872-00148159 so this is the coating which is shown by
iLxmnSWWiEk-00582-00148160-00148575 this line and just below it we have the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00583-00148576-00148702 substrate
iLxmnSWWiEk-00584-00148703-00148951 so this is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00585-00148952-00149151 coating substrate
iLxmnSWWiEk-00586-00149152-00149439 ah composition composite
iLxmnSWWiEk-00587-00149440-00149559 now here
iLxmnSWWiEk-00588-00149560-00149799 penetration means
iLxmnSWWiEk-00589-00149800-00150031 we have to restrict this thing suppose
iLxmnSWWiEk-00590-00150032-00150359 we consider here one square based
iLxmnSWWiEk-00591-00150360-00150663 pyramid as an indenter so this is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00592-00150664-00150799 actually
iLxmnSWWiEk-00593-00150800-00151295 the coating thickness coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00594-00151296-00151502 and this part
iLxmnSWWiEk-00595-00151503-00151671 this is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00596-00151672-00152063 substrate
iLxmnSWWiEk-00597-00152064-00152190 substrate
iLxmnSWWiEk-00598-00152191-00152566 now in in this case as the load is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00599-00152567-00152871 applied gradually what will happen
iLxmnSWWiEk-00600-00152872-00153431 so it will
iLxmnSWWiEk-00601-00153432-00153790 keep on increasing the penetration depth
iLxmnSWWiEk-00602-00153791-00153871 and
iLxmnSWWiEk-00603-00153872-00154111 it depends upon
iLxmnSWWiEk-00604-00154112-00154254 the load
iLxmnSWWiEk-00605-00154255-00154526 smoothness of the coating it should be
iLxmnSWWiEk-00606-00154527-00154831 also flat that means
iLxmnSWWiEk-00607-00154832-00155031 this should be at right angle to the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00608-00155032-00155366 direction of loading otherwise what we
iLxmnSWWiEk-00609-00155367-00155711 can show here from the previous picture
iLxmnSWWiEk-00610-00155712-00156071 this diagonal it will not be a square
iLxmnSWWiEk-00611-00156072-00156414 diagonal but it can have distortion so
iLxmnSWWiEk-00612-00156415-00156599 this is also another
iLxmnSWWiEk-00613-00156600-00156839 difficulty in measurement
iLxmnSWWiEk-00614-00156840-00157159 if the coating surface is not smooth
iLxmnSWWiEk-00615-00157160-00157302 or
iLxmnSWWiEk-00616-00157303-00157566 it is not properly aligned then there is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00617-00157567-00157943 a problem in detecting the diagonal and
iLxmnSWWiEk-00618-00157944-00158166 then the length of the diagonal that
iLxmnSWWiEk-00619-00158167-00158478 measurement it becomes more complicated
iLxmnSWWiEk-00620-00158479-00158895 anyway so what we see that
iLxmnSWWiEk-00621-00158896-00159119 given the coating thickness
iLxmnSWWiEk-00622-00159120-00159326 now say coating thickness of a hard
iLxmnSWWiEk-00623-00159327-00159431 coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00624-00159432-00159678 say for all
iLxmnSWWiEk-00625-00159679-00159935 its a reasonable coating three to four
iLxmnSWWiEk-00626-00159936-00160247 micron and if it is a well developed
iLxmnSWWiEk-00627-00160248-00160654 coating with all sort of adhesion
iLxmnSWWiEk-00628-00160655-00161083 and then what we have densification
iLxmnSWWiEk-00629-00161084-00161390 stoichiometry then the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00630-00161391-00161623 crystallographic orientation if
iLxmnSWWiEk-00631-00161624-00161966 everything is perfectly done we expect a
iLxmnSWWiEk-00632-00161967-00162199 high value of hardness or wear
iLxmnSWWiEk-00633-00162200-00162502 resistance even with this 3 4 micron
iLxmnSWWiEk-00634-00162503-00162823 coating however before application one
iLxmnSWWiEk-00635-00162824-00163111 would be interested to assess its
iLxmnSWWiEk-00636-00163112-00163454 hardness now with this existing vickers
iLxmnSWWiEk-00637-00163455-00163583 or noop
iLxmnSWWiEk-00638-00163584-00163959 there is every chance that this coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00639-00163960-00164087 depth
iLxmnSWWiEk-00640-00164088-00164351 that will be excited by the depth of
iLxmnSWWiEk-00641-00164352-00164711 penetration and in that case what
iLxmnSWWiEk-00642-00164712-00164911 exactly we measure
iLxmnSWWiEk-00643-00164912-00165063 its not
iLxmnSWWiEk-00644-00165064-00165431 the hardness of the film or the coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00645-00165432-00165551 but
iLxmnSWWiEk-00646-00165552-00165919 we would say it is mostly it is the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00647-00165920-00166063 hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-00648-00166064-00166199 taking
iLxmnSWWiEk-00649-00166200-00166495 the combination that means this coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00650-00166496-00166766 and substrate because this part
iLxmnSWWiEk-00651-00166767-00167047 this is the influence of the substrate
iLxmnSWWiEk-00652-00167048-00167126 and
iLxmnSWWiEk-00653-00167127-00167375 this part it is the contribution of the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00654-00167376-00167487 coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00655-00167488-00167590 so
iLxmnSWWiEk-00656-00167591-00167766 obviously
iLxmnSWWiEk-00657-00167767-00167975 it comes to that point
iLxmnSWWiEk-00658-00167976-00168214 that it depends upon the thickness of
iLxmnSWWiEk-00659-00168215-00168575 the coating on in one hand and on the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00660-00168576-00168878 other it is actually the load
iLxmnSWWiEk-00661-00168879-00169119 how much load is applied
iLxmnSWWiEk-00662-00169120-00169359 that means it is also a limitation of
iLxmnSWWiEk-00663-00169360-00169559 the apparatus
iLxmnSWWiEk-00664-00169560-00169790 ah the coating i mean the hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-00665-00169791-00169975 tester how
iLxmnSWWiEk-00666-00169976-00170335 precisely we can control this loading
iLxmnSWWiEk-00667-00170336-00170463 arrangement
iLxmnSWWiEk-00668-00170464-00170735 that means the rate of loading how much
iLxmnSWWiEk-00669-00170736-00171078 duration the load should be kept there
iLxmnSWWiEk-00670-00171079-00171383 and also with what precision
iLxmnSWWiEk-00671-00171384-00171631 the magnitude of the load can be
iLxmnSWWiEk-00672-00171632-00171751 controlled
iLxmnSWWiEk-00673-00171752-00171959 so these are the few
iLxmnSWWiEk-00674-00171960-00172319 issues must be properly addressed and
iLxmnSWWiEk-00675-00172320-00172638 before before really we go for
iLxmnSWWiEk-00676-00172639-00172831 measurement of coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00677-00172832-00173135 now at the outset what we can say by
iLxmnSWWiEk-00678-00173136-00173471 this technique in most of the cases
iLxmnSWWiEk-00679-00173472-00173838 hardly we can measure this film hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-00680-00173839-00174190 but what we measure that is actually the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00681-00174191-00174454 composite coating that means it is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00682-00174455-00174831 actually influence of h f
iLxmnSWWiEk-00683-00174832-00175238 and influence of h s
iLxmnSWWiEk-00684-00175239-00175647 h f means had it been just a coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00685-00175648-00175983 then its hardness and it is substrate
iLxmnSWWiEk-00686-00175984-00176351 alone so their influence
iLxmnSWWiEk-00687-00176352-00176447 with
iLxmnSWWiEk-00688-00176448-00176566 certain
iLxmnSWWiEk-00689-00176567-00176687 weightage
iLxmnSWWiEk-00690-00176688-00176911 that is actually
iLxmnSWWiEk-00691-00176912-00177214 playing the role so it is actually a
iLxmnSWWiEk-00692-00177215-00177566 certain percentage of hf and certain
iLxmnSWWiEk-00693-00177567-00177838 percentage of hs
iLxmnSWWiEk-00694-00177839-00178102 they are playing their role and finally
iLxmnSWWiEk-00695-00178103-00178247 what we measure
iLxmnSWWiEk-00696-00178248-00178599 ah superficially externally ah with this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00697-00178600-00178919 apparatus that is hc
iLxmnSWWiEk-00698-00178920-00179047 now here
iLxmnSWWiEk-00699-00179048-00179254 two attempts have been
iLxmnSWWiEk-00700-00179255-00179359 made
iLxmnSWWiEk-00701-00179360-00179638 to measure this hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-00702-00179639-00179759 ah
iLxmnSWWiEk-00703-00179760-00179854 by
iLxmnSWWiEk-00704-00179855-00180295 by this ah vickers indented or vickers
iLxmnSWWiEk-00705-00180296-00180495 hardness tester
iLxmnSWWiEk-00706-00180496-00180647 just by
iLxmnSWWiEk-00707-00180648-00180975 modeling this ah hardness of the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00708-00180976-00181287 composite that means
iLxmnSWWiEk-00709-00181288-00181431 here it is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00710-00181432-00181526 written
iLxmnSWWiEk-00711-00181527-00181759 as
iLxmnSWWiEk-00712-00181760-00181983 h
iLxmnSWWiEk-00713-00181984-00182111 c
iLxmnSWWiEk-00714-00182112-00182399 is equal to
iLxmnSWWiEk-00715-00182400-00182590 h f
iLxmnSWWiEk-00716-00182591-00182783 into
iLxmnSWWiEk-00717-00182784-00183031 a f by a
iLxmnSWWiEk-00718-00183032-00183166 plus
iLxmnSWWiEk-00719-00183167-00183343 h s
iLxmnSWWiEk-00720-00183344-00183735 into a is divided by a
iLxmnSWWiEk-00721-00183736-00184119 so that is actually called
iLxmnSWWiEk-00722-00184120-00184343 area mixture
iLxmnSWWiEk-00723-00184344-00184711 approach
iLxmnSWWiEk-00724-00184712-00184990 area mixture chair
iLxmnSWWiEk-00725-00184991-00185311 approach that means
iLxmnSWWiEk-00726-00185312-00185519 this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00727-00185520-00185790 macro scale measurement micro scale
iLxmnSWWiEk-00728-00185791-00185911 measurement
iLxmnSWWiEk-00729-00185912-00186143 and microscope
iLxmnSWWiEk-00730-00186144-00186431 scale assessment of coating hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-00731-00186432-00186671 that what we are discussing
iLxmnSWWiEk-00732-00186672-00187038 so it is actually the area mixture
iLxmnSWWiEk-00733-00187039-00187295 approach that means it is actually
iLxmnSWWiEk-00734-00187296-00187390 called
iLxmnSWWiEk-00735-00187391-00187838 law of mixture so it is actually
iLxmnSWWiEk-00736-00187839-00188183 law of area mixture so it is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00737-00188184-00188678 law of area mixture and this is actually
iLxmnSWWiEk-00738-00188679-00188854 the law
iLxmnSWWiEk-00739-00188855-00189254 connecting this composite hardness with
iLxmnSWWiEk-00740-00189255-00189463 coating hardness and
iLxmnSWWiEk-00741-00189464-00189631 substrate hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-00742-00189632-00189983 the whole idea here is that let us have
iLxmnSWWiEk-00743-00189984-00190375 a quick look in another illustration
iLxmnSWWiEk-00744-00190376-00190943 that this is the coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00745-00190944-00191087 and just
iLxmnSWWiEk-00746-00191088-00191478 beneath it we have the substrate
iLxmnSWWiEk-00747-00191479-00191814 and here we have this indenter so
iLxmnSWWiEk-00748-00191815-00192071 indenter has
iLxmnSWWiEk-00749-00192072-00192326 come to this depth
iLxmnSWWiEk-00750-00192327-00192743 this is the depth of indentation
iLxmnSWWiEk-00751-00192744-00193031 and this one the impression
iLxmnSWWiEk-00752-00193032-00193119 so
iLxmnSWWiEk-00753-00193120-00193438 the impression so impression of by given
iLxmnSWWiEk-00754-00193439-00193759 by this indenter that we have shown by
iLxmnSWWiEk-00755-00193760-00193911 this red line
iLxmnSWWiEk-00756-00193912-00194207 and this two blue parallel lines that is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00757-00194208-00194287 the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00758-00194288-00194438 coating zone
iLxmnSWWiEk-00759-00194439-00194607 that is the coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00760-00194608-00194735 and
iLxmnSWWiEk-00761-00194736-00195199 this part that is substrate
iLxmnSWWiEk-00762-00195200-00195295 so
iLxmnSWWiEk-00763-00195296-00195526 what we can see here
iLxmnSWWiEk-00764-00195527-00195775 that
iLxmnSWWiEk-00765-00195776-00195895 this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00766-00195896-00196254 indent area under indentation
iLxmnSWWiEk-00767-00196255-00196526 that has two portion
iLxmnSWWiEk-00768-00196527-00196799 one portion that is well within the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00769-00196800-00196902 coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00770-00196903-00197159 and another portion that
iLxmnSWWiEk-00771-00197160-00197454 has gone deep into the substrate
iLxmnSWWiEk-00772-00197455-00197807 now this can be further
iLxmnSWWiEk-00773-00197808-00198095 illustrated by another simple
iLxmnSWWiEk-00774-00198096-00198247 diagram
iLxmnSWWiEk-00775-00198248-00199143 say we can have a quick look here
iLxmnSWWiEk-00776-00199144-00199478 so this is the total impression
iLxmnSWWiEk-00777-00199479-00199726 this is the square
iLxmnSWWiEk-00778-00199727-00199919 pyramid impression
iLxmnSWWiEk-00779-00199920-00200231 and here we we can also transfer this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00780-00200232-00200319 line
iLxmnSWWiEk-00781-00200320-00200478 to show
iLxmnSWWiEk-00782-00200479-00200790 these two segments clear segments
iLxmnSWWiEk-00783-00200791-00200975 now
iLxmnSWWiEk-00784-00200976-00201238 after having this impression
iLxmnSWWiEk-00785-00201239-00201463 under the microscope
iLxmnSWWiEk-00786-00201464-00201590 we can
iLxmnSWWiEk-00787-00201591-00201943 clearly distinguish between two zone
iLxmnSWWiEk-00788-00201944-00202247 one zone that will be that means this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00789-00202248-00202743 zone
iLxmnSWWiEk-00790-00202744-00203295 this zone
iLxmnSWWiEk-00791-00203296-00203454 this which
iLxmnSWWiEk-00792-00203455-00203543 is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00793-00203544-00203766 illustrated by this hatch mark that is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00794-00203767-00204078 the slant area and this is actually this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00795-00204079-00204166 zone
iLxmnSWWiEk-00796-00204167-00204519 from this point to this point so this is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00797-00204520-00204903 just like a peripheral area which is the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00798-00204904-00205055 area
iLxmnSWWiEk-00799-00205056-00205246 provided by
iLxmnSWWiEk-00800-00205248-00205519 the coating that means this area is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00801-00205519-00205719 actually a f
iLxmnSWWiEk-00802-00205719-00205919 and what is h s
iLxmnSWWiEk-00803-00205919-00206319 h hs is actually the load hardness of
iLxmnSWWiEk-00804-00206319-00206431 this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00805-00206432-00206919 substrate and this area this is actually
iLxmnSWWiEk-00806-00206919-00207046 a s
iLxmnSWWiEk-00807-00207048-00207358 so this is actually a s and this is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00808-00207359-00207479 actually
iLxmnSWWiEk-00809-00207480-00207823 a f now from this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00810-00207823-00208079 we can further write
iLxmnSWWiEk-00811-00208080-00208206 that
iLxmnSWWiEk-00812-00208207-00208414 a is equal to
iLxmnSWWiEk-00813-00208415-00208719 a f plus a s
iLxmnSWWiEk-00814-00208719-00209110 so we can have a substitution
iLxmnSWWiEk-00815-00209111-00209198 for
iLxmnSWWiEk-00816-00209200-00209319 this thing
iLxmnSWWiEk-00817-00209319-00209446 that
iLxmnSWWiEk-00818-00209448-00209655 this af
iLxmnSWWiEk-00819-00209656-00210023 so what we can write here af is equal to
iLxmnSWWiEk-00820-00210023-00210239 a minus a s
iLxmnSWWiEk-00821-00210240-00210471 divided by a
iLxmnSWWiEk-00822-00210471-00210791 and that is equal to h s
iLxmnSWWiEk-00823-00210792-00210894 by
iLxmnSWWiEk-00824-00210896-00211055 a s a
iLxmnSWWiEk-00825-00211056-00211375 so this is going to be actually
iLxmnSWWiEk-00826-00211376-00211567 what we can write
iLxmnSWWiEk-00827-00211567-00211927 in this case
iLxmnSWWiEk-00828-00211928-00212215 we can also write in this way
iLxmnSWWiEk-00829-00212216-00212534 that hc is going to be
iLxmnSWWiEk-00830-00212535-00212775 hs
iLxmnSWWiEk-00831-00212776-00212919 hs
iLxmnSWWiEk-00832-00212919-00213294 plus
iLxmnSWWiEk-00833-00213296-00213391 h
iLxmnSWWiEk-00834-00213392-00213519 f
iLxmnSWWiEk-00835-00213519-00213831 minus h s
iLxmnSWWiEk-00836-00213832-00214079 into
iLxmnSWWiEk-00837-00214080-00214239 a s
iLxmnSWWiEk-00838-00214240-00214527 by a
iLxmnSWWiEk-00839-00214528-00214727 so from this relation
iLxmnSWWiEk-00840-00214728-00214903 we can find out
iLxmnSWWiEk-00841-00214904-00215039 that
iLxmnSWWiEk-00842-00215040-00215342 this one
iLxmnSWWiEk-00843-00215344-00215734 h s so we can put this way we can have a
iLxmnSWWiEk-00844-00215735-00215975 substitute for hs
iLxmnSWWiEk-00845-00215976-00216223 and from that we can write
iLxmnSWWiEk-00846-00216223-00216663 hc is equal to this one and this can be
iLxmnSWWiEk-00847-00216664-00216815 written as
iLxmnSWWiEk-00848-00216816-00217082 this is hs
iLxmnSWWiEk-00849-00217083-00217327 into 2
iLxmnSWWiEk-00850-00217328-00217503 c t
iLxmnSWWiEk-00851-00217504-00217646 by d
iLxmnSWWiEk-00852-00217648-00217815 into
iLxmnSWWiEk-00853-00217816-00217967 h f
iLxmnSWWiEk-00854-00217967-00218198 minus h s
iLxmnSWWiEk-00855-00218200-00218415 so it is actually
iLxmnSWWiEk-00856-00218416-00218791 an equation which connects
iLxmnSWWiEk-00857-00218792-00219063 hardness of the substrate
iLxmnSWWiEk-00858-00219064-00219151 plus
iLxmnSWWiEk-00859-00219152-00219510 this difference of hardness of the film
iLxmnSWWiEk-00860-00219511-00219806 minus hardness of the substrate
iLxmnSWWiEk-00861-00219807-00219934 then
iLxmnSWWiEk-00862-00219935-00220063 it comes
iLxmnSWWiEk-00863-00220064-00220294 the thickness of the coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00864-00220296-00220446 and also
iLxmnSWWiEk-00865-00220448-00220767 impression of this diagonal so here this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00866-00220767-00221031 diagonal means actually
iLxmnSWWiEk-00867-00221032-00221310 this point so from this point to this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00868-00221311-00221542 point if we consider
iLxmnSWWiEk-00869-00221544-00221910 we can show it that this is going to be
iLxmnSWWiEk-00870-00221911-00222327 the length of the diagonal so
iLxmnSWWiEk-00871-00222328-00222542 this is going to be the length of the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00872-00222544-00222879 diagonal and this is we we have put this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00873-00222880-00222991 d here
iLxmnSWWiEk-00874-00222992-00223351 and this is c is a constant and this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00875-00223352-00223575 constant depends upon
iLxmnSWWiEk-00876-00223576-00223798 this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00877-00223800-00223998 portion
iLxmnSWWiEk-00878-00224000-00224303 which is actually the portion
iLxmnSWWiEk-00879-00224304-00224631 which is bearing the load and this is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00880-00224632-00224831 well within the coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00881-00224832-00224942 so
iLxmnSWWiEk-00882-00224944-00225191 from this relation
iLxmnSWWiEk-00883-00225192-00225375 what we can write
iLxmnSWWiEk-00884-00225376-00225703 in fact
iLxmnSWWiEk-00885-00225704-00225879 actual relation
iLxmnSWWiEk-00886-00225880-00226071 comes in this form
iLxmnSWWiEk-00887-00226071-00226367 composite coating is equal to
iLxmnSWWiEk-00888-00226367-00226646 h s
iLxmnSWWiEk-00889-00226648-00226982 plus
iLxmnSWWiEk-00890-00226983-00227391 it is h f minus h s
iLxmnSWWiEk-00891-00227392-00227551 into
iLxmnSWWiEk-00892-00227552-00227639 2
iLxmnSWWiEk-00893-00227640-00227798 c
iLxmnSWWiEk-00894-00227800-00227958 t by t
iLxmnSWWiEk-00895-00227959-00228087 minus
iLxmnSWWiEk-00896-00228088-00228223 c square
iLxmnSWWiEk-00897-00228223-00228598 into t square by d square so it is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00898-00228600-00228910 actually elimination of those area
iLxmnSWWiEk-00899-00228911-00229119 that means writing
iLxmnSWWiEk-00900-00229119-00229510 this area which is actually
iLxmnSWWiEk-00901-00229511-00229663 a f
iLxmnSWWiEk-00902-00229664-00229863 and a s
iLxmnSWWiEk-00903-00229864-00230198 so these are the these are eliminated
iLxmnSWWiEk-00904-00230200-00230575 so here what we can see this elimination
iLxmnSWWiEk-00905-00230576-00230767 of a f
iLxmnSWWiEk-00906-00230767-00231294 a s and a in terms of in clear terms of
iLxmnSWWiEk-00907-00231296-00231575 t and d
iLxmnSWWiEk-00908-00231576-00231791 thickness of the coating length of the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00909-00231792-00232094 diagonal and this c that depends upon
iLxmnSWWiEk-00910-00232096-00232206 the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00911-00232207-00232310 this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00912-00232311-00232806 cone angle here
iLxmnSWWiEk-00913-00232807-00233134 that means the angle of this pyramid
iLxmnSWWiEk-00914-00233135-00233439 so this pyramid angle angle between the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00915-00233440-00233575 two faces
iLxmnSWWiEk-00916-00233576-00234055 so this is actually simplified as h c is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00917-00234056-00234271 equal to h s
iLxmnSWWiEk-00918-00234271-00234398 plus
iLxmnSWWiEk-00919-00234400-00234551 h f
iLxmnSWWiEk-00920-00234552-00234831 minus h s into
iLxmnSWWiEk-00921-00234832-00235055 c into d
iLxmnSWWiEk-00922-00235056-00235446 now this can be represented in in the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00923-00235448-00236079 form of a graph
iLxmnSWWiEk-00924-00236080-00236503 so what we are actually measuring
iLxmnSWWiEk-00925-00236504-00236815 with this um
iLxmnSWWiEk-00926-00236816-00237327 recurs hardness tester that is not h f
iLxmnSWWiEk-00927-00237328-00237671 we are actually measuring h c
iLxmnSWWiEk-00928-00237671-00237806 so
iLxmnSWWiEk-00929-00237807-00238006 just if it is a
iLxmnSWWiEk-00930-00238007-00238182 bare
iLxmnSWWiEk-00931-00238183-00238391 uncoated sample
iLxmnSWWiEk-00932-00238392-00238615 for the uncoated sample
iLxmnSWWiEk-00933-00238616-00238782 we can
iLxmnSWWiEk-00934-00238783-00239175 show this value so this is h c
iLxmnSWWiEk-00935-00239176-00239503 and this is actually 1 upon d
iLxmnSWWiEk-00936-00239504-00239751 so one upon d because
iLxmnSWWiEk-00937-00239752-00240167 for a given thickness of the coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00938-00240167-00240606 this composite hardness is going to
iLxmnSWWiEk-00939-00240607-00240719 ah
iLxmnSWWiEk-00940-00240719-00241055 maintain a linear relation
iLxmnSWWiEk-00941-00241056-00241287 if we follow this equation
iLxmnSWWiEk-00942-00241288-00241510 now here what we can find
iLxmnSWWiEk-00943-00241511-00241623 that
iLxmnSWWiEk-00944-00241623-00241919 with increase of for a certain coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00945-00241919-00242351 thickness we can get a value of this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00946-00242352-00242591 type
iLxmnSWWiEk-00947-00242592-00242894 we can get a value of this type so this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00948-00242896-00243094 is the coating thickness
iLxmnSWWiEk-00949-00243096-00243463 and this can be extended on this side
iLxmnSWWiEk-00950-00243464-00243727 and this can go like this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00951-00243728-00244063 now the shape of that curve why does it
iLxmnSWWiEk-00952-00244064-00244319 take such a shape
iLxmnSWWiEk-00953-00244319-00244591 it can be explained this way
iLxmnSWWiEk-00954-00244592-00244767 for a coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00955-00244767-00244927 say
iLxmnSWWiEk-00956-00244928-00245239 here
iLxmnSWWiEk-00957-00245240-00245487 we have this coating and this is the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00958-00245488-00245694 substrate
iLxmnSWWiEk-00959-00245696-00245958 now what happens
iLxmnSWWiEk-00960-00245959-00246215 we measure this diagonal now the length
iLxmnSWWiEk-00961-00246216-00246375 of the diagonal
iLxmnSWWiEk-00962-00246376-00246542 it depends upon
iLxmnSWWiEk-00963-00246544-00246782 the load
iLxmnSWWiEk-00964-00246783-00246967 so 1 upon d
iLxmnSWWiEk-00965-00246967-00247079 that is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00966-00247080-00247487 1 upon d large means d is rather small
iLxmnSWWiEk-00967-00247488-00247839 and where 1 upon d is small that means d
iLxmnSWWiEk-00968-00247840-00248215 is large so we can have two extreme
iLxmnSWWiEk-00969-00248216-00248998 situation
iLxmnSWWiEk-00970-00249000-00249182 so this blue one
iLxmnSWWiEk-00971-00249183-00249479 is showing one indentation
iLxmnSWWiEk-00972-00249480-00249815 by this vickers indenter on a coated
iLxmnSWWiEk-00973-00249816-00250119 area and here say for example
iLxmnSWWiEk-00974-00250119-00250239 this
iLxmnSWWiEk-00975-00250240-00250406 indentation is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00976-00250407-00250646 limited within the coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-00977-00250648-00251046 so in that case what we find here that
iLxmnSWWiEk-00978-00251048-00251271 this d is
iLxmnSWWiEk-00979-00251271-00251463 quite high
iLxmnSWWiEk-00980-00251464-00251663 and in that case
iLxmnSWWiEk-00981-00251664-00251887 the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00982-00251888-00252255 composite hardness then then the
iLxmnSWWiEk-00983-00252256-00252406 contribution
iLxmnSWWiEk-00984-00252407-00252767 of this hs that is going to be
iLxmnSWWiEk-00985-00252767-00253175 quite low and in that case the composite
iLxmnSWWiEk-00986-00253176-00253646 hardness that will show
iLxmnSWWiEk-00987-00253648-00253903 a hardness value which is almost
iLxmnSWWiEk-00988-00253904-00254255 approach approaching that of the film
iLxmnSWWiEk-00989-00254256-00254703 so here this value of hs will be
iLxmnSWWiEk-00990-00254704-00254787 less
iLxmnSWWiEk-00991-00254788-00255051 contributory and less
iLxmnSWWiEk-00992-00255052-00255215 insignificant
iLxmnSWWiEk-00993-00255216-00255567 compared to the value of the film that
iLxmnSWWiEk-00994-00255567-00255671 means
iLxmnSWWiEk-00995-00255671-00255839 if we have
iLxmnSWWiEk-00996-00255840-00256071 a very
iLxmnSWWiEk-00997-00256071-00256167 large
iLxmnSWWiEk-00998-00256167-00256446 value of 1 upon d
iLxmnSWWiEk-00999-00256448-00256630 that means
iLxmnSWWiEk-01000-00256631-00256839 d is small
iLxmnSWWiEk-01001-00256840-00257255 so in that case the value of h c
iLxmnSWWiEk-01002-00257256-00257767 that will approach the value of h f
iLxmnSWWiEk-01003-00257767-00257934 however
iLxmnSWWiEk-01004-00257935-00258175 if we
iLxmnSWWiEk-01005-00258176-00258423 increase the load
iLxmnSWWiEk-01006-00258423-00258775 if we have a very high value of the load
iLxmnSWWiEk-01007-00258776-00258934 and which is
iLxmnSWWiEk-01008-00258935-00259127 represented here
iLxmnSWWiEk-01009-00259128-00259519 by this depth of penetration which has
iLxmnSWWiEk-01010-00259519-00259830 gone well within the coating well within
iLxmnSWWiEk-01011-00259831-00260119 the substrate and
iLxmnSWWiEk-01012-00260119-00260406 in that case what we can find
iLxmnSWWiEk-01013-00260407-00260903 then one upon d that will have a smaller
iLxmnSWWiEk-01014-00260904-00261255 magnitude that means d will be quite
iLxmnSWWiEk-01015-00261256-00261558 high and in that case this composite
iLxmnSWWiEk-01016-00261559-00261679 hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-01017-00261680-00261894 though it is the composite hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-01018-00261896-00262103 composite hardness means
iLxmnSWWiEk-01019-00262104-00262279 it is actually
iLxmnSWWiEk-01020-00262280-00262495 the hardness of
iLxmnSWWiEk-01021-00262496-00262703 both coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-01022-00262704-00263043 and that of the substrate which are
iLxmnSWWiEk-01023-00263044-00263423 contributory but in this case hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-01024-00263424-00263647 of the substrates has a
iLxmnSWWiEk-01025-00263648-00263863 greater contribution
iLxmnSWWiEk-01026-00263864-00264071 than that of the coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-01027-00264072-00264223 and this way
iLxmnSWWiEk-01028-00264224-00264495 we can find that the value is coming
iLxmnSWWiEk-01029-00264496-00264782 more towards this side this can be
iLxmnSWWiEk-01030-00264783-00265095 physically also represented here
iLxmnSWWiEk-01031-00265096-00265463 that means this is the area which is the
iLxmnSWWiEk-01032-00265464-00265806 load bearing area for this load which is
iLxmnSWWiEk-01033-00265807-00265967 applied here
iLxmnSWWiEk-01034-00265968-00266263 and this is actually the load bearing
iLxmnSWWiEk-01035-00266264-00266430 area
iLxmnSWWiEk-01036-00266431-00266830 on the substrate so with a thin coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-01037-00266831-00267103 with this applied load naturally the
iLxmnSWWiEk-01038-00267104-00267295 load bearing area
iLxmnSWWiEk-01039-00267296-00267495 that will be
iLxmnSWWiEk-01040-00267496-00268006 higher in proportion that means this a s
iLxmnSWWiEk-01041-00268007-00268215 by a f
iLxmnSWWiEk-01042-00268216-00268647 so if a s is more compared to a f
iLxmnSWWiEk-01043-00268648-00268927 or if a s is
iLxmnSWWiEk-01044-00268928-00269191 approaching
iLxmnSWWiEk-01045-00269192-00269463 a that means that is the total area of
iLxmnSWWiEk-01046-00269464-00269606 indentation
iLxmnSWWiEk-01047-00269607-00269879 then the composite hardness will be
iLxmnSWWiEk-01048-00269880-00269982 showing
iLxmnSWWiEk-01049-00269983-00270271 almost it is coming very close to the
iLxmnSWWiEk-01050-00270272-00270758 substrate on the other side if we have
iLxmnSWWiEk-01051-00270759-00270871 a f
iLxmnSWWiEk-01052-00270872-00271230 that is approaching a that means
iLxmnSWWiEk-01053-00271231-00271591 it is very close to the border but not
iLxmnSWWiEk-01054-00271592-00271823 it has not gone too much inside the
iLxmnSWWiEk-01055-00271824-00272182 substrate so in that case we can say
iLxmnSWWiEk-01056-00272183-00272263 the
iLxmnSWWiEk-01057-00272264-00272455 area
iLxmnSWWiEk-01058-00272456-00272815 bearing area on the film that is almost
iLxmnSWWiEk-01059-00272816-00273110 approaching that actual area of
iLxmnSWWiEk-01060-00273111-00273247 indentation
iLxmnSWWiEk-01061-00273248-00273534 and in that case composite hardness will
iLxmnSWWiEk-01062-00273535-00273799 be on the higher side and it will
iLxmnSWWiEk-01063-00273800-00273934 approach
iLxmnSWWiEk-01064-00273935-00274087 that of the
iLxmnSWWiEk-01065-00274088-00274182 film
iLxmnSWWiEk-01066-00274183-00274415 so this is one way
iLxmnSWWiEk-01067-00274416-00274495 of
iLxmnSWWiEk-01068-00274496-00274710 handling the problem
iLxmnSWWiEk-01069-00274711-00275143 and this is law of mixture and this is
iLxmnSWWiEk-01070-00275144-00275534 actually the area law of mixture and
iLxmnSWWiEk-01071-00275535-00275671 this
iLxmnSWWiEk-01072-00275672-00276079 area law of mixture that can be utilized
iLxmnSWWiEk-01073-00276080-00276255 in this case
iLxmnSWWiEk-01074-00276256-00276358 for
iLxmnSWWiEk-01075-00276359-00276655 assessing the hardness so we can measure
iLxmnSWWiEk-01076-00276656-00276758 h c
iLxmnSWWiEk-01077-00276759-00277071 and from this knowing the value of t and
iLxmnSWWiEk-01078-00277072-00277167 d
iLxmnSWWiEk-01079-00277168-00277495 h s is known we can determine the value
iLxmnSWWiEk-01080-00277496-00277847 of hf
iLxmnSWWiEk-01081-00277848-00278199 then there is another way of working
iLxmnSWWiEk-01082-00278200-00278510 that is called volume law of mixture
iLxmnSWWiEk-01083-00278511-00278871 volume law so in in this case we can
iLxmnSWWiEk-01084-00278872-00278975 write
iLxmnSWWiEk-01085-00278976-00279382 that this h c
iLxmnSWWiEk-01086-00279383-00279710 h c is equal to h f
iLxmnSWWiEk-01087-00279711-00279855 into
iLxmnSWWiEk-01088-00279856-00280110 v f by v
iLxmnSWWiEk-01089-00280111-00280319 plus
iLxmnSWWiEk-01090-00280320-00280519 v s
iLxmnSWWiEk-01091-00280520-00280975 into
iLxmnSWWiEk-01092-00280976-00281247 v s into
iLxmnSWWiEk-01093-00281248-00281647 v s by v into h so
iLxmnSWWiEk-01094-00281648-00281863 this is the contribution of the film
iLxmnSWWiEk-01095-00281864-00282199 hardness and which is governed by this
iLxmnSWWiEk-01096-00282200-00282527 law of mixture for volume v f by v
iLxmnSWWiEk-01097-00282528-00282751 and this is actually
iLxmnSWWiEk-01098-00282752-00283030 contribution of substrate hardness and
iLxmnSWWiEk-01099-00283031-00283319 this is governed by this law of mixture
iLxmnSWWiEk-01100-00283320-00283647 substrate volume divided by the volume
iLxmnSWWiEk-01101-00283648-00283855 total volume
iLxmnSWWiEk-01102-00283856-00284039 now this is just
iLxmnSWWiEk-01103-00284040-00285367 illustrated here
iLxmnSWWiEk-01104-00285368-00285567 so if we consider
iLxmnSWWiEk-01105-00285568-00285887 this as the in area of indentation
iLxmnSWWiEk-01106-00285888-00286167 then what we can consider further to
iLxmnSWWiEk-01107-00286168-00286254 this
iLxmnSWWiEk-01108-00286255-00286630 just by considering this as the center
iLxmnSWWiEk-01109-00286631-00286727 and
iLxmnSWWiEk-01110-00286728-00286863 considering
iLxmnSWWiEk-01111-00286864-00287071 half of this diagonal
iLxmnSWWiEk-01112-00287072-00287310 as this
iLxmnSWWiEk-01113-00287311-00287567 radius of the hemisphere
iLxmnSWWiEk-01114-00287568-00287727 we can
iLxmnSWWiEk-01115-00287728-00288343 consider one hemisphere like this
iLxmnSWWiEk-01116-00288344-00288727 and in here we can make an apportionment
iLxmnSWWiEk-01117-00288728-00289054 so apportionment would be that this area
iLxmnSWWiEk-01118-00289055-00289303 which is shaded here
iLxmnSWWiEk-01119-00289304-00289654 so that will be actually v f and the
iLxmnSWWiEk-01120-00289655-00290175 rest of the area that is going to be v s
iLxmnSWWiEk-01121-00290176-00290463 so with this v f and v s that is also
iLxmnSWWiEk-01122-00290464-00290734 another consideration forming another
iLxmnSWWiEk-01123-00290735-00290830 model
iLxmnSWWiEk-01124-00290831-00291247 for this determination of h c so by this
iLxmnSWWiEk-01125-00291248-00291358 volume
iLxmnSWWiEk-01126-00291359-00291799 law of mixture it is also possible to
iLxmnSWWiEk-01127-00291800-00292087 determine the value of
iLxmnSWWiEk-01128-00292088-00292230 h f
iLxmnSWWiEk-01129-00292231-00292599 because we are going to measure h c
iLxmnSWWiEk-01130-00292600-00292839 from the actual measurement and
iLxmnSWWiEk-01131-00292840-00293119 depending upon this depth of impression
iLxmnSWWiEk-01132-00293120-00293367 that means this depth
iLxmnSWWiEk-01133-00293368-00293630 geometrically we can find out what is
iLxmnSWWiEk-01134-00293631-00293951 the volume of that
iLxmnSWWiEk-01135-00293952-00294134 ah portion
iLxmnSWWiEk-01136-00294135-00294399 ah on the coating which is bearing that
iLxmnSWWiEk-01137-00294400-00294647 load and what is the volume of that
iLxmnSWWiEk-01138-00294648-00294751 portion
iLxmnSWWiEk-01139-00294752-00294958 inside the substrate which is also
iLxmnSWWiEk-01140-00294959-00295103 contributing
iLxmnSWWiEk-01141-00295104-00295463 in bearing that load and from there if
iLxmnSWWiEk-01142-00295464-00295799 we know h s then it is also possible to
iLxmnSWWiEk-01143-00295800-00296679 determine the value of h f
iLxmnSWWiEk-01144-00296680-00296951 now it is coming we are coming to this
iLxmnSWWiEk-01145-00296952-00297199 nano scale measurement
iLxmnSWWiEk-01146-00297200-00297479 now in nano scale measurement the whole
iLxmnSWWiEk-01147-00297480-00297615 idea is
iLxmnSWWiEk-01148-00297616-00297703 that
iLxmnSWWiEk-01149-00297704-00297854 not to
iLxmnSWWiEk-01150-00297855-00298110 go beyond this coating thickness
iLxmnSWWiEk-01151-00298111-00298430 to restrict the penetration within this
iLxmnSWWiEk-01152-00298431-00298534 thickness
iLxmnSWWiEk-01153-00298535-00298767 so this is actually called the nano
iLxmnSWWiEk-01154-00298768-00298958 scale measurement and this is the
iLxmnSWWiEk-01155-00298959-00299334 apparatus which controls the loading
iLxmnSWWiEk-01156-00299335-00299727 and also the depth of penetration so it
iLxmnSWWiEk-01157-00299728-00299871 is actually
iLxmnSWWiEk-01158-00299872-00300095 a
iLxmnSWWiEk-01159-00300096-00300382 closed loop control so the force is
iLxmnSWWiEk-01160-00300383-00300606 monitored and the depth of
iLxmnSWWiEk-01161-00300607-00300847 penetration that is also correctly
iLxmnSWWiEk-01162-00300848-00301175 assessed now in all those cases except
iLxmnSWWiEk-01163-00301176-00301519 in rockwell what we have measured it is
iLxmnSWWiEk-01164-00301520-00301919 actually always the hardness value is
iLxmnSWWiEk-01165-00301920-00302239 load divided by area under indentation
iLxmnSWWiEk-01166-00302240-00302447 so that is the basic principle
iLxmnSWWiEk-01167-00302448-00302767 load divided by area under inpatient and
iLxmnSWWiEk-01168-00302768-00303054 in this case and in this case what we
iLxmnSWWiEk-01169-00303055-00303158 measure
iLxmnSWWiEk-01170-00303159-00303454 we measure actually the diameter of the
iLxmnSWWiEk-01171-00303455-00303591 indentation
iLxmnSWWiEk-01172-00303592-00303758 or
iLxmnSWWiEk-01173-00303759-00304054 diameter of the indentation or the
iLxmnSWWiEk-01174-00304055-00304327 diagonal length of the pyramid
iLxmnSWWiEk-01175-00304328-00304623 however in this case
iLxmnSWWiEk-01176-00304624-00304799 we measure
iLxmnSWWiEk-01177-00304800-00305079 the depth of penetration depth of
iLxmnSWWiEk-01178-00305080-00305287 penetration so that is the depth of
iLxmnSWWiEk-01179-00305288-00305479 penetration
iLxmnSWWiEk-01180-00305480-00305751 so that is the penetration depth and
iLxmnSWWiEk-01181-00305752-00305991 when we have this
iLxmnSWWiEk-01182-00305992-00306191 vectors
iLxmnSWWiEk-01183-00306192-00306430 hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-01184-00306431-00306695 measurement in that case
iLxmnSWWiEk-01185-00306696-00306903 what we have
iLxmnSWWiEk-01186-00306904-00307054 in that case
iLxmnSWWiEk-01187-00307055-00307391 that area under indentation
iLxmnSWWiEk-01188-00307392-00307743 that can be equated by this penetration
iLxmnSWWiEk-01189-00307744-00308015 depth by the relation it comes very
iLxmnSWWiEk-01190-00308016-00308134 close to
iLxmnSWWiEk-01191-00308135-00308303 this 24
iLxmnSWWiEk-01192-00308304-00308447 h square
iLxmnSWWiEk-01193-00308448-00308647 and in this case
iLxmnSWWiEk-01194-00308648-00308927 this diagonal length and h they are
iLxmnSWWiEk-01195-00308928-00309143 related by this
iLxmnSWWiEk-01196-00309144-00309334 h by d
iLxmnSWWiEk-01197-00309335-00309543 as one upon seven
iLxmnSWWiEk-01198-00309544-00309775 so in this case
iLxmnSWWiEk-01199-00309776-00310110 measurement of penetration that is done
iLxmnSWWiEk-01200-00310111-00310358 but it is not optical
iLxmnSWWiEk-01201-00310359-00310558 measurement of the
iLxmnSWWiEk-01202-00310559-00310743 ah diagonal
iLxmnSWWiEk-01203-00310744-00310999 or or that of the diameter of
iLxmnSWWiEk-01204-00311000-00311351 indentation and this is actually
iLxmnSWWiEk-01205-00311352-00311743 ah measured and in this case in state of
iLxmnSWWiEk-01206-00311744-00312054 the square pyramid what is
iLxmnSWWiEk-01207-00312055-00312287 taken it is actually a triangular
iLxmnSWWiEk-01208-00312288-00312615 pyramid it is going to be an equilateral
iLxmnSWWiEk-01209-00312616-00312743 triangle
iLxmnSWWiEk-01210-00312744-00313375 so with this equilateral triangle
iLxmnSWWiEk-01211-00313376-00313575 one can put this way this is the
iLxmnSWWiEk-01212-00313576-00313910 equilateral triangle apex and it looks
iLxmnSWWiEk-01213-00313911-00314175 like
iLxmnSWWiEk-01214-00314176-00314463 this way it is the triangle and here we
iLxmnSWWiEk-01215-00314464-00314903 have the apex point so this triangle or
iLxmnSWWiEk-01216-00314904-00315295 this triangular based spiramid is made
iLxmnSWWiEk-01217-00315296-00315799 in such a manner that in this case also
iLxmnSWWiEk-01218-00315800-00316095 this is called
iLxmnSWWiEk-01219-00316096-00316310 dimension a
iLxmnSWWiEk-01220-00316311-00316406 and
iLxmnSWWiEk-01221-00316407-00316775 this is actually the dimension
iLxmnSWWiEk-01222-00316776-00317287 l
iLxmnSWWiEk-01223-00317288-00317510 so in this case also
iLxmnSWWiEk-01224-00317511-00317839 the pyramid is designed in such a manner
iLxmnSWWiEk-01225-00317840-00318110 that here also
iLxmnSWWiEk-01226-00318111-00318615 this ratio a is equal to 24 h square
iLxmnSWWiEk-01227-00318616-00318775 that holds good
iLxmnSWWiEk-01228-00318776-00319063 that means in simple term what we
iLxmnSWWiEk-01229-00319064-00319175 understand
iLxmnSWWiEk-01230-00319176-00319463 whether it is a square based pyramid or
iLxmnSWWiEk-01231-00319464-00319751 if it is a triangular based pyramid with
iLxmnSWWiEk-01232-00319752-00320071 the same load it will give the same
iLxmnSWWiEk-01233-00320072-00320423 penetration and the same hardness number
iLxmnSWWiEk-01234-00320424-00320775 so here it is actually the penetration
iLxmnSWWiEk-01235-00320776-00321039 depth that is measured
iLxmnSWWiEk-01236-00321040-00321334 and triangular pyramid that is used
iLxmnSWWiEk-01237-00321335-00321575 because of the simple reason
iLxmnSWWiEk-01238-00321576-00321767 that in this case
iLxmnSWWiEk-01239-00321768-00322095 manufacturing is easier
iLxmnSWWiEk-01240-00322096-00322399 making manufacturing precision is better
iLxmnSWWiEk-01241-00322400-00322606 because these are the three
iLxmnSWWiEk-01242-00322607-00322903 non coplanar planes they are anyway
iLxmnSWWiEk-01243-00322904-00323103 going to meet
iLxmnSWWiEk-01244-00323104-00323415 at a point but when these is the four
iLxmnSWWiEk-01245-00323416-00323782 sides of a square base pyramid this
iLxmnSWWiEk-01246-00323783-00323951 cannot meet
iLxmnSWWiEk-01247-00323952-00324279 it is not always it is not necessarily
iLxmnSWWiEk-01248-00324280-00324375 true
iLxmnSWWiEk-01249-00324376-00324695 that all these four sides will meet at a
iLxmnSWWiEk-01250-00324696-00325063 point and that becomes an error which
iLxmnSWWiEk-01251-00325064-00325215 may creep in
iLxmnSWWiEk-01252-00325216-00325327 in the
iLxmnSWWiEk-01253-00325328-00325727 indenter itself and that can also affect
iLxmnSWWiEk-01254-00325728-00326191 the precision of measurement ok
iLxmnSWWiEk-01255-00326192-00326327 so with this
iLxmnSWWiEk-01256-00326328-00326567 what we can see here
iLxmnSWWiEk-01257-00326568-00326751 that this loading
iLxmnSWWiEk-01258-00326752-00327158 in this case it is actually the loading
iLxmnSWWiEk-01259-00327159-00327495 this way it is the loading point
iLxmnSWWiEk-01260-00327496-00327839 this is the load it is elastically
iLxmnSWWiEk-01261-00327840-00327991 and then
iLxmnSWWiEk-01262-00327992-00328287 when it is the load is released it comes
iLxmnSWWiEk-01263-00328288-00328430 like that
iLxmnSWWiEk-01264-00328431-00328791 and that is going to be the
iLxmnSWWiEk-01265-00328792-00329182 recovery so this is the total deflection
iLxmnSWWiEk-01266-00329183-00329527 which is known as h
iLxmnSWWiEk-01267-00329528-00330030 and then this is going to be
iLxmnSWWiEk-01268-00330031-00330375 elastic and this is going to be
iLxmnSWWiEk-01269-00330376-00330510 h p
iLxmnSWWiEk-01270-00330511-00330863 so this hp is actually measured so here
iLxmnSWWiEk-01271-00330864-00331358 what we write this 24 hp square and from
iLxmnSWWiEk-01272-00331359-00331710 this measurement this value of hp
iLxmnSWWiEk-01273-00331711-00331975 it is possible to measure the hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-01274-00331976-00332327 of the coating and in this case the load
iLxmnSWWiEk-01275-00332328-00332623 can be kept as low as
iLxmnSWWiEk-01276-00332624-00332734 3
iLxmnSWWiEk-01277-00332735-00333030 200 to 300
iLxmnSWWiEk-01278-00333031-00333327 milli newton
iLxmnSWWiEk-01279-00333328-00333710 and the penetration depth that can be
iLxmnSWWiEk-01280-00333711-00334030 also restricted to 3 to
iLxmnSWWiEk-01281-00334031-00334230 2 to 3 micron
iLxmnSWWiEk-01282-00334231-00334623 and with that it is possible to
iLxmnSWWiEk-01283-00334624-00334910 localize the entire penetration
iLxmnSWWiEk-01284-00334911-00335095 within the coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-01285-00335096-00335310 and in that case
iLxmnSWWiEk-01286-00335311-00335678 directly the hardness of the coating can
iLxmnSWWiEk-01287-00335679-00336095 be measured with a much better accuracy
iLxmnSWWiEk-01288-00336096-00336551 and that's why now for all sort of hard
iLxmnSWWiEk-01289-00336552-00336703 hard coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-01290-00336704-00336958 this has become this nano scale level
iLxmnSWWiEk-01291-00336959-00337310 measurement that becomes one of the most
iLxmnSWWiEk-01292-00337311-00337719 useful and usable technique of hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-01293-00337720-00337951 measurement
iLxmnSWWiEk-01294-00337952-00338303 so we can summarize today's discussion
iLxmnSWWiEk-01295-00338304-00338575 hardness is often used as the index of
iLxmnSWWiEk-01296-00338576-00338823 wear resistance of mechanically
iLxmnSWWiEk-01297-00338824-00339167 functional coating traditional hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-01298-00339168-00339447 tester cannot directly measure hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-01299-00339448-00339575 of the coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-01300-00339576-00339806 because of the depth of indentation
iLxmnSWWiEk-01301-00339807-00340039 often exceeds the thickness of the
iLxmnSWWiEk-01302-00340040-00340167 coating
iLxmnSWWiEk-01303-00340168-00340439 however hardness of coating may be
iLxmnSWWiEk-01304-00340440-00340654 determined from measured composite
iLxmnSWWiEk-01305-00340655-00340934 hardness with proper modelling
iLxmnSWWiEk-01306-00340935-00341215 a newly developed nanoscale indentation
iLxmnSWWiEk-01307-00341216-00341591 technique allows application of load in
iLxmnSWWiEk-01308-00341592-00341903 few hundreds million range and depth of
iLxmnSWWiEk-01309-00341904-00342239 indentation in one to two micron range
iLxmnSWWiEk-01310-00342240-00342339 thus
iLxmnSWWiEk-01311-00342340-00342654 facilitating direct assessment of
iLxmnSWWiEk-01312-00342655-00344454 coating hardness
iLxmnSWWiEk-01313-00344455-00344664 you
iL_mO3v46MQ-00000-00000263-00000472 you
ip_Z3CL_ily-00000-00000360-00000543 um if you're just joining us now
ip_Z3CL_ily-00001-00000544-00000847 welcome um we
ip_Z3CL_ily-00002-00000848-00001183 are going to get started right away
ip_Z3CL_ily-00003-00001184-00001519 i am going to introduce
ip_Z3CL_ily-00004-00001520-00001839 um the each student's advisor
ip_Z3CL_ily-00005-00001839-00002167 who will then introduce their student
ip_Z3CL_ily-00006-00002168-00002518 so it is my pleasure to first welcome
ip_Z3CL_ily-00007-00002519-00002783 professor andre dombrowski from the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00008-00002784-00002958 university of pennsylvania to
ip_Z3CL_ily-00009-00002959-00003822 introduce his student miriam stanton
ip_Z3CL_ily-00010-00003823-00004079 good afternoon everyone i'm andre
ip_Z3CL_ily-00011-00004079-00004263 dombrowski in the department of history
ip_Z3CL_ily-00012-00004264-00004359 of art at
ip_Z3CL_ily-00013-00004360-00004670 u-pen and it's my distinct honor
ip_Z3CL_ily-00014-00004671-00004911 and my great pleasure to introduce
ip_Z3CL_ily-00015-00004912-00005086 miriam stanton to you
ip_Z3CL_ily-00016-00005087-00005311 this afternoon miriam came to penn in
ip_Z3CL_ily-00017-00005312-00005438 2013 with
ip_Z3CL_ily-00018-00005439-00005702 a masters in art history from williams
ip_Z3CL_ily-00019-00005703-00005743 and
ip_Z3CL_ily-00020-00005744-00006054 already several years of curatorial
ip_Z3CL_ily-00021-00006055-00006143 experience
ip_Z3CL_ily-00022-00006144-00006367 under her belt at the williams college
ip_Z3CL_ily-00023-00006368-00006527 museum of art among
ip_Z3CL_ily-00024-00006528-00006823 several other institutions and she has
ip_Z3CL_ily-00025-00006823-00006959 equally excelled
ip_Z3CL_ily-00026-00006959-00007367 at uh at penn here
ip_Z3CL_ily-00027-00007368-00007623 she's been the sex fellow she has been
ip_Z3CL_ily-00028-00007623-00007759 the pma
ip_Z3CL_ily-00029-00007759-00008063 melon fellow and this year she holds a
ip_Z3CL_ily-00030-00008064-00008327 prestigious melon acls dissertation
ip_Z3CL_ily-00031-00008328-00008423 completion
ip_Z3CL_ily-00032-00008424-00008607 fellowship as well and these are just
ip_Z3CL_ily-00033-00008608-00008759 some of her
ip_Z3CL_ily-00034-00008760-00009119 many accomplishments miriam has an
ip_Z3CL_ily-00035-00009120-00009367 especially capacious and especially
ip_Z3CL_ily-00036-00009368-00009503 generous mind
ip_Z3CL_ily-00037-00009504-00009703 which is what i think we all especially
ip_Z3CL_ily-00038-00009704-00009806 love about her
ip_Z3CL_ily-00039-00009807-00010078 and wide-ranging interests as well
ip_Z3CL_ily-00040-00010079-00010310 covering modernism from its inception in
ip_Z3CL_ily-00041-00010311-00010478 the mid-19th century
ip_Z3CL_ily-00042-00010479-00010791 all the way to the 1960s and her
ip_Z3CL_ily-00043-00010792-00011006 dissertation which she's completing
ip_Z3CL_ily-00044-00011007-00011342 this year is just as unusual and
ip_Z3CL_ily-00045-00011343-00011638 inventive in the modernist story that it
ip_Z3CL_ily-00046-00011639-00011831 seeks to tell
ip_Z3CL_ily-00047-00011832-00012006 miriam is interested in the arts
ip_Z3CL_ily-00048-00012007-00012310 relationship to gravity and to states of
ip_Z3CL_ily-00049-00012311-00012446 levitation
ip_Z3CL_ily-00050-00012447-00012695 the artistic mobilization of the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00051-00012696-00012846 vertical
ip_Z3CL_ily-00052-00012847-00013151 rather than the horizontal when bodies
ip_Z3CL_ily-00053-00013152-00013319 are suspended in the air
ip_Z3CL_ily-00054-00013319-00013655 material falls or flies or the world
ip_Z3CL_ily-00055-00013656-00014007 turns upside down in representation
ip_Z3CL_ily-00056-00014008-00014358 she's looking at muybridge monet duchamp
ip_Z3CL_ily-00057-00014359-00014583 pollock and others through this
ip_Z3CL_ily-00058-00014584-00014775 fascinating lens
ip_Z3CL_ily-00059-00014776-00015022 and what she will share now is her work
ip_Z3CL_ily-00060-00015023-00015127 on mooney's
ip_Z3CL_ily-00061-00015128-00015383 upside down aesthetics in his water
ip_Z3CL_ily-00062-00015384-00015519 lilies
ip_Z3CL_ily-00063-00015519-00015775 miriam the virtual podium is yours i
ip_Z3CL_ily-00064-00015776-00015879 cannot wait
ip_Z3CL_ily-00065-00015880-00016463 um good luck
ip_Z3CL_ily-00066-00016464-00016615 thank you andre for that kind
ip_Z3CL_ily-00067-00016616-00016847 introduction and my gratitude to
ip_Z3CL_ily-00068-00016848-00017150 aaliyah to gillen thomas martha
ip_Z3CL_ily-00069-00017151-00017391 my fellow panelists and to all of you
ip_Z3CL_ily-00070-00017392-00017735 for joining us today
ip_Z3CL_ily-00071-00017736-00018071 all of my image captions uh information
ip_Z3CL_ily-00072-00018072-00018247 to that extent will be included in a
ip_Z3CL_ily-00073-00018248-00018799 final slide at the conclusion of my talk
ip_Z3CL_ily-00074-00018800-00019119 upside down many of us have described
ip_Z3CL_ily-00075-00019120-00019230 life in this way
ip_Z3CL_ily-00076-00019231-00019535 over the past year literally the term
ip_Z3CL_ily-00077-00019536-00019767 assumes a governing axis
ip_Z3CL_ily-00078-00019768-00020094 and upside establishes our bearings
ip_Z3CL_ily-00079-00020095-00020303 our world is made strange when we
ip_Z3CL_ily-00080-00020304-00020455 reverse its logic
ip_Z3CL_ily-00081-00020456-00020703 when a force so fundamental as gravity
ip_Z3CL_ily-00082-00020704-00020919 seems in flux
ip_Z3CL_ily-00083-00020920-00021230 what then is an upside down picture and
ip_Z3CL_ily-00084-00021231-00021439 how does it alter our relationship
ip_Z3CL_ily-00085-00021440-00021775 with gravity
ip_Z3CL_ily-00086-00021776-00022014 claude monet's water lily paintings both
ip_Z3CL_ily-00087-00022015-00022294 pose and respond to these questions
ip_Z3CL_ily-00088-00022295-00022614 produced between 1892 and 1926
ip_Z3CL_ily-00089-00022615-00022935 the nearly 250 canvases portraying his
ip_Z3CL_ily-00090-00022936-00023158 water garden are a collective portrait
ip_Z3CL_ily-00091-00023159-00023463 of suspension and oscillation
ip_Z3CL_ily-00092-00023464-00023703 immersive in scale their liquid depths
ip_Z3CL_ily-00093-00023704-00023775 confound
ip_Z3CL_ily-00094-00023776-00024030 orientation as they lack horizons or
ip_Z3CL_ily-00095-00024031-00024278 earthen foregrounds
ip_Z3CL_ily-00096-00024279-00024486 built into their indefinite compositions
ip_Z3CL_ily-00097-00024487-00024630 and material surfaces
ip_Z3CL_ily-00098-00024631-00024886 is a gravitational uncertainty a
ip_Z3CL_ily-00099-00024887-00025094 renegotiation of the pictures
ip_Z3CL_ily-00100-00025095-00025455 and our relationship with fixed axes
ip_Z3CL_ily-00101-00025456-00025687 met with these ungrounded expanses of
ip_Z3CL_ily-00102-00025688-00025758 paint
ip_Z3CL_ily-00103-00025760-00026055 we too are unmoored imaginatively
ip_Z3CL_ily-00104-00026056-00026223 echoing and embodying their
ip_Z3CL_ily-00105-00026224-00026567 indeterminate coordinates
ip_Z3CL_ily-00106-00026568-00026783 though these canvases were described as
ip_Z3CL_ily-00107-00026783-00027102 upside down when first exhibited in 1909
ip_Z3CL_ily-00108-00027104-00027287 and again during the so-called monet
ip_Z3CL_ily-00109-00027288-00027527 revival of the mid-20th century
ip_Z3CL_ily-00110-00027527-00027718 they have yet to be analyzed according
ip_Z3CL_ily-00111-00027719-00027951 to this rotational logic
ip_Z3CL_ily-00112-00027952-00028239 today i take up that charge assessing
ip_Z3CL_ily-00113-00028239-00028399 their effects through the trope of the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00114-00028400-00028607 modern upside-down picture
ip_Z3CL_ily-00115-00028608-00028831 the idea that a work without an apparent
ip_Z3CL_ily-00116-00028832-00028951 internal compass
ip_Z3CL_ily-00117-00028952-00029143 would look the same regardless of its
ip_Z3CL_ily-00118-00029144-00029374 orientation on the wall
ip_Z3CL_ily-00119-00029375-00029535 though built into the history of
ip_Z3CL_ily-00120-00029536-00029774 modernism this pictorial proclivity
ip_Z3CL_ily-00121-00029775-00029902 toward inversion
ip_Z3CL_ily-00122-00029904-00030118 is often dismissed as shorthand for
ip_Z3CL_ily-00123-00030119-00030231 illegibility in
ip_Z3CL_ily-00124-00030232-00030574 abstract art i aim to complicate this
ip_Z3CL_ily-00125-00030575-00030695 definition
ip_Z3CL_ily-00126-00030695-00030887 problematizing the conditions in which
ip_Z3CL_ily-00127-00030888-00031102 composition is released from fixed
ip_Z3CL_ily-00128-00031103-00031246 coordinates
ip_Z3CL_ily-00129-00031247-00031495 resuscitating the gravitational tenor of
ip_Z3CL_ily-00130-00031495-00031599 the water lilies
ip_Z3CL_ily-00131-00031600-00031862 initial and mid-century reception
ip_Z3CL_ily-00132-00031863-00032014 demonstrates how they set
ip_Z3CL_ily-00133-00032016-00032246 and test the limits of the upside-down
ip_Z3CL_ily-00134-00032247-00032351 picture
ip_Z3CL_ily-00135-00032352-00032599 internalizing and materializing the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00136-00032600-00032983 state of suspension at its core
ip_Z3CL_ily-00137-00032984-00033183 the point is not so much whether they
ip_Z3CL_ily-00138-00033184-00033367 would in fact look identical
ip_Z3CL_ily-00139-00033368-00033662 no matter their orientation in fact i
ip_Z3CL_ily-00140-00033663-00033895 contend that monet moves beyond such
ip_Z3CL_ily-00141-00033896-00034087 directional conflation
ip_Z3CL_ily-00142-00034088-00034271 what is significant is that they
ip_Z3CL_ily-00143-00034272-00034502 challenge previously coded navigational
ip_Z3CL_ily-00144-00034503-00034615 devices
ip_Z3CL_ily-00145-00034616-00034846 bringing gravity into question within
ip_Z3CL_ily-00146-00034847-00035023 and around the picture plane
ip_Z3CL_ily-00147-00035024-00035367 and suspending us in turn how
ip_Z3CL_ily-00148-00035368-00035599 monet invites us to consider might
ip_Z3CL_ily-00149-00035600-00035799 visually dislodging the tethers of
ip_Z3CL_ily-00150-00035800-00035879 gravity
ip_Z3CL_ily-00151-00035880-00036223 open space for novel embodied experience
ip_Z3CL_ily-00152-00036224-00036455 these painted realms reconfigure our
ip_Z3CL_ily-00153-00036456-00036599 perceptual connection with
ip_Z3CL_ily-00154-00036600-00036823 the world picturing what becomes
ip_Z3CL_ily-00155-00036824-00036927 possible when
ip_Z3CL_ily-00156-00036928-00037111 objects are no longer bound by a
ip_Z3CL_ily-00157-00037112-00037543 singular orientation
ip_Z3CL_ily-00158-00037544-00037799 by engaging the upside down the water
ip_Z3CL_ily-00159-00037800-00037918 lilies participate
ip_Z3CL_ily-00160-00037919-00038287 in a visual history centuries-old
ip_Z3CL_ily-00161-00038288-00038359 imagery
ip_Z3CL_ily-00162-00038360-00038615 portrays a world upside down in which
ip_Z3CL_ily-00163-00038616-00038735 imagined figures
ip_Z3CL_ily-00164-00038736-00038967 live in reverse walking on the ceiling
ip_Z3CL_ily-00165-00038968-00039271 in cities hanging from the sky
ip_Z3CL_ily-00166-00039272-00039551 evolutions of the form unseat agents of
ip_Z3CL_ily-00167-00039552-00039639 power
ip_Z3CL_ily-00168-00039640-00039902 kites fly children aloft and fish are
ip_Z3CL_ily-00169-00039903-00040295 airborne while birds reside under water
ip_Z3CL_ily-00170-00040296-00040479 such disruptions can surely be
ip_Z3CL_ily-00171-00040480-00040671 disquieting but not all
ip_Z3CL_ily-00172-00040672-00040918 upside downs are sinister nor do they
ip_Z3CL_ily-00173-00040919-00041190 signal a disavowal of our world
ip_Z3CL_ily-00174-00041191-00041374 a number of monet's contemporaries
ip_Z3CL_ily-00175-00041375-00041590 promoted upturned views
ip_Z3CL_ily-00176-00041591-00041830 ralph waldo emerson advised his readers
ip_Z3CL_ily-00177-00041831-00041918 to
ip_Z3CL_ily-00178-00041919-00042151 turn the eyes upside down by looking at
ip_Z3CL_ily-00179-00042152-00042383 the landscape through your legs
ip_Z3CL_ily-00180-00042384-00042599 and how agreeable is the picture though
ip_Z3CL_ily-00181-00042600-00042983 you have seen it any time these 20 years
ip_Z3CL_ily-00182-00042984-00043262 here an embodied revolution transforms
ip_Z3CL_ily-00183-00043263-00043327 the banal
ip_Z3CL_ily-00184-00043328-00043615 into the artistic the upside down yields
ip_Z3CL_ily-00185-00043616-00043830 the pictorial
ip_Z3CL_ily-00186-00043831-00044030 philosopher and psychologist william
ip_Z3CL_ily-00187-00044031-00044271 james made this corollary literal
ip_Z3CL_ily-00188-00044272-00044495 saying that when we turn a painting
ip_Z3CL_ily-00189-00044496-00044662 bottom upward
ip_Z3CL_ily-00190-00044663-00044887 we lose much of its meaning but to
ip_Z3CL_ily-00191-00044888-00045087 compensate for the loss we feel more
ip_Z3CL_ily-00192-00045088-00045311 freshly the value of the mere tints and
ip_Z3CL_ily-00193-00045312-00045479 shading
ip_Z3CL_ily-00194-00045480-00045711 in its newfound uncertainty then the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00195-00045712-00046015 upside-down picture enhances perception
ip_Z3CL_ily-00196-00046016-00046223 though the stability of recognition is
ip_Z3CL_ily-00197-00046224-00046655 lost expanded awareness is gained
ip_Z3CL_ily-00198-00046656-00046879 because the upside down picture depends
ip_Z3CL_ily-00199-00046880-00047023 upon this ambiguity
ip_Z3CL_ily-00200-00047024-00047255 its proliferation runs parallel to the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00201-00047256-00047527 emergence of abstraction
ip_Z3CL_ily-00202-00047528-00047871 still artworks invited rotation before
ip_Z3CL_ily-00203-00047872-00048151 figurative content exited the picture
ip_Z3CL_ily-00204-00048152-00048446 critic teodor du rae tells of 1877
ip_Z3CL_ily-00205-00048447-00048655 audiences amusing themselves by turning
ip_Z3CL_ily-00206-00048656-00048879 impressionist paintings upside down
ip_Z3CL_ily-00207-00048880-00049102 because the line of the horizon was
ip_Z3CL_ily-00208-00049103-00049223 indistinguishable
ip_Z3CL_ily-00209-00049224-00049455 so that earth water and sky were equally
ip_Z3CL_ily-00210-00049456-00049551 amorphous
ip_Z3CL_ily-00211-00049552-00049758 and consequently it made no difference
ip_Z3CL_ily-00212-00049759-00049902 whether the bottom of the picture was
ip_Z3CL_ily-00213-00049903-00050015 the top or the top
ip_Z3CL_ily-00214-00050016-00050383 the bottom though this instance is
ip_Z3CL_ily-00215-00050384-00050607 sourced in entertainment such narratives
ip_Z3CL_ily-00216-00050608-00050799 ultimately marked the careers of artists
ip_Z3CL_ily-00217-00050800-00050999 from james mcneil whistler to vasily
ip_Z3CL_ily-00218-00051000-00051118 kandinsky
ip_Z3CL_ily-00219-00051119-00051326 the history of modernism is replete with
ip_Z3CL_ily-00220-00051327-00051526 stories of upturned canvases
ip_Z3CL_ily-00221-00051527-00051775 and the epiphanies they engender and
ip_Z3CL_ily-00222-00051776-00051854 again
ip_Z3CL_ily-00223-00051855-00052030 many of the works prone to such
ip_Z3CL_ily-00224-00052032-00052190 rotational choreography
ip_Z3CL_ily-00225-00052191-00052447 maintain representational ties to the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00226-00052448-00052638 world
ip_Z3CL_ily-00227-00052639-00052863 in fact the upside down picture
ip_Z3CL_ily-00228-00052864-00052975 originates from
ip_Z3CL_ily-00229-00052976-00053279 reflection images we see projected onto
ip_Z3CL_ily-00230-00053279-00053407 water participate
ip_Z3CL_ily-00231-00053408-00053623 in an undulation between a physical
ip_Z3CL_ily-00232-00053624-00053719 world above
ip_Z3CL_ily-00233-00053720-00054007 and its mirrored manifestation below
ip_Z3CL_ily-00234-00054008-00054215 opening space for gravity to lose its
ip_Z3CL_ily-00235-00054216-00054391 compositional hold
ip_Z3CL_ily-00236-00054391-00054679 recall to raise observations the works
ip_Z3CL_ily-00237-00054679-00054838 that inspired inversion
ip_Z3CL_ily-00238-00054839-00055103 were dependent upon reflective potential
ip_Z3CL_ily-00239-00055104-00055247 as the horizon was
ip_Z3CL_ily-00240-00055248-00055454 indistinguishable so that earth water
ip_Z3CL_ily-00241-00055455-00055759 and sky were equally amorphous
ip_Z3CL_ily-00242-00055760-00055966 though intended to conjure imagery
ip_Z3CL_ily-00243-00055967-00056126 lacking in specificity
ip_Z3CL_ily-00244-00056127-00056335 his words nevertheless describe a
ip_Z3CL_ily-00245-00056336-00056582 particular pictorial category
ip_Z3CL_ily-00246-00056583-00056791 scenes in which the world is reflected
ip_Z3CL_ily-00247-00056791-00057063 in a body of water
ip_Z3CL_ily-00248-00057064-00057342 however commonplace this liquid reversal
ip_Z3CL_ily-00249-00057344-00057615 painter robert reed observed in 1903
ip_Z3CL_ily-00250-00057616-00057847 that such a bit of heaven below the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00251-00057848-00057942 horizon
ip_Z3CL_ily-00252-00057944-00058135 can elude our comprehension when
ip_Z3CL_ily-00253-00058136-00058342 translated to an artwork
ip_Z3CL_ily-00254-00058344-00058542 the world he noted would hang that
ip_Z3CL_ily-00255-00058544-00058847 picture upside down
ip_Z3CL_ily-00256-00058848-00059094 it is in this way that many viewers have
ip_Z3CL_ily-00257-00059095-00059303 described monet's water lilies as
ip_Z3CL_ily-00258-00059304-00059623 upturned what we see in these canvases
ip_Z3CL_ily-00259-00059624-00059799 is the reflection of the sky
ip_Z3CL_ily-00260-00059800-00059975 as it meets the surface of the water and
ip_Z3CL_ily-00261-00059976-00060175 the lilies themselves
ip_Z3CL_ily-00262-00060176-00060366 by rendering the mirrored scene that
ip_Z3CL_ily-00263-00060367-00060479 displays itself
ip_Z3CL_ily-00264-00060479-00060791 inverted upon the water monet reminds us
ip_Z3CL_ily-00265-00060791-00060871 that the world
ip_Z3CL_ily-00266-00060872-00061182 offers us myriad upside-down pictures if
ip_Z3CL_ily-00267-00061183-00061335 we focus our attention on the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00268-00061336-00061511 reflections that cast themselves
ip_Z3CL_ily-00269-00061512-00061606 downward
ip_Z3CL_ily-00270-00061607-00061782 we are immersed in nature's most
ip_Z3CL_ily-00271-00061783-00062006 emphatic self-portrait
ip_Z3CL_ily-00272-00062007-00062247 watery reflections present themselves as
ip_Z3CL_ily-00273-00062248-00062519 the other half of our earthen existence
ip_Z3CL_ily-00274-00062520-00062742 and reversal emerges as a primary
ip_Z3CL_ily-00275-00062744-00063135 mechanism of representation
ip_Z3CL_ily-00276-00063136-00063375 many of monet's earlier compositions
ip_Z3CL_ily-00277-00063376-00063599 evidence his interest in this echoing of
ip_Z3CL_ily-00278-00063600-00063823 landscape with its liquid double
ip_Z3CL_ily-00279-00063824-00064142 in regattas at angentoy of 1872
ip_Z3CL_ily-00280-00064144-00064366 the distinction between solid ground and
ip_Z3CL_ily-00281-00064367-00064566 watery expanse is clear
ip_Z3CL_ily-00282-00064567-00064735 as one is portrayed with less
ip_Z3CL_ily-00283-00064736-00064942 interrupted strokes while the other is a
ip_Z3CL_ily-00284-00064944-00065215 dispersed pattern of ripple effects
ip_Z3CL_ily-00285-00065216-00065447 ship sails are opaque triangles while
ip_Z3CL_ily-00286-00065448-00065599 their reversed counterparts are a
ip_Z3CL_ily-00287-00065600-00065767 staccato of pigment
ip_Z3CL_ily-00288-00065768-00066031 offset by diffracted touches of red
ip_Z3CL_ily-00289-00066032-00066231 flickering with aqualine blue and the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00290-00066232-00066279 green
ip_Z3CL_ily-00291-00066280-00066575 of reflected vegetation this fractal
ip_Z3CL_ily-00292-00066576-00066671 fluidity
ip_Z3CL_ily-00293-00066672-00066935 occupies nearly half of the canvas a
ip_Z3CL_ily-00294-00066936-00067135 painterly commitment that establishes
ip_Z3CL_ily-00295-00067136-00067343 the zones on either side of the water's
ip_Z3CL_ily-00296-00067344-00067479 edge as of equal
ip_Z3CL_ily-00297-00067480-00067759 importance we make sense of liquid
ip_Z3CL_ily-00298-00067760-00067831 imagery
ip_Z3CL_ily-00299-00067832-00068255 by way of its solid counterpart
ip_Z3CL_ily-00300-00068256-00068519 monet's later paintings move beyond such
ip_Z3CL_ily-00301-00068520-00068623 fluid flux
ip_Z3CL_ily-00302-00068624-00068863 to ask what becomes possible when
ip_Z3CL_ily-00303-00068864-00069071 reflection does not proclaim itself
ip_Z3CL_ily-00304-00069072-00069343 as such and instead grows increasingly
ip_Z3CL_ily-00305-00069344-00069519 indistinguishable from the realm
ip_Z3CL_ily-00306-00069520-00069806 above the mornings on the send series
ip_Z3CL_ily-00307-00069807-00070071 probes the limits of this question
ip_Z3CL_ily-00308-00070072-00070399 water vapor envelops this 1897 scene
ip_Z3CL_ily-00309-00070400-00070599 dissolving the horizon so that liquid
ip_Z3CL_ily-00310-00070600-00070863 and sky are virtually the same color
ip_Z3CL_ily-00311-00070864-00071167 while vegetation turns into itself we
ip_Z3CL_ily-00312-00071168-00071415 can see why art historian dario gamboni
ip_Z3CL_ily-00313-00071416-00071911 describes these images as reversible
ip_Z3CL_ily-00314-00071912-00072071 while some observe a similar
ip_Z3CL_ily-00315-00072072-00072279 reversibility in the water lilies
ip_Z3CL_ily-00316-00072280-00072519 i detect markedly different dynamics in
ip_Z3CL_ily-00317-00072520-00072903 monet's depictions of his water garden
ip_Z3CL_ily-00318-00072904-00073119 though early scenes include strips of
ip_Z3CL_ily-00319-00073120-00073311 land delineating the ponds
ip_Z3CL_ily-00320-00073312-00073526 and the pictures upper edge these
ip_Z3CL_ily-00321-00073527-00073815 earthen elements soon recede
ip_Z3CL_ily-00322-00073816-00074006 so that with a shift in angle the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00323-00074007-00074182 painter's protagonist becomes the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00324-00074183-00074423 unbounded surface of the water
ip_Z3CL_ily-00325-00074424-00074679 by granting us a reflection without the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00326-00074680-00074879 perceptual security of that which it
ip_Z3CL_ily-00327-00074880-00074975 reflects
ip_Z3CL_ily-00328-00074976-00075262 monet suspends gravitational logic
ip_Z3CL_ily-00329-00075263-00075503 placing the picture's orientation newly
ip_Z3CL_ily-00330-00075504-00075647 in question
ip_Z3CL_ily-00331-00075648-00075871 lacking the traces of concomitant right
ip_Z3CL_ily-00332-00075872-00075999 side up world
ip_Z3CL_ily-00333-00076000-00076206 waterborne imagery is therefore no
ip_Z3CL_ily-00334-00076207-00076359 longer reversible
ip_Z3CL_ily-00335-00076360-00076631 but instead suggests the possibility of
ip_Z3CL_ily-00336-00076632-00076711 rotation
ip_Z3CL_ily-00337-00076712-00076926 without taking that inversion to a
ip_Z3CL_ily-00338-00076927-00077143 concise conclusion
ip_Z3CL_ily-00339-00077144-00077311 depictions that are legible as
ip_Z3CL_ily-00340-00077312-00077559 reflections but that nonetheless lack a
ip_Z3CL_ily-00341-00077560-00077647 referent
ip_Z3CL_ily-00342-00077648-00077847 make the disruption of coordinates their
ip_Z3CL_ily-00343-00077848-00078119 very subject
ip_Z3CL_ily-00344-00078120-00078343 this logic underpins accounts of the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00345-00078344-00078494 painting's 1909
ip_Z3CL_ily-00346-00078495-00078750 exhibition debut in which poetic
ip_Z3CL_ily-00347-00078751-00078950 interpretations of the upside down
ip_Z3CL_ily-00348-00078951-00079255 proliferate reviewer f robert kemp
ip_Z3CL_ily-00349-00079256-00079599 observes not even a corner of sky
ip_Z3CL_ily-00350-00079600-00079855 above this water without horizon not a
ip_Z3CL_ily-00351-00079856-00080103 bunch of leaves but upon this clear
ip_Z3CL_ily-00352-00080104-00080311 and sensitive mirror the sky is
ip_Z3CL_ily-00353-00080312-00080567 reflected and leaves see themselves
ip_Z3CL_ily-00354-00080568-00080815 this mirroring water into which powerful
ip_Z3CL_ily-00355-00080816-00080926 images plunge
ip_Z3CL_ily-00356-00080927-00081159 upside down offers itself to the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00357-00081160-00081511 shifting gaze of noon
ip_Z3CL_ily-00358-00081512-00081767 here the watery surface is the site of
ip_Z3CL_ily-00359-00081768-00081959 the upside-down picture
ip_Z3CL_ily-00360-00081960-00082199 luigi lay instead calls the canvases
ip_Z3CL_ily-00361-00082200-00082350 themselves inverted
ip_Z3CL_ily-00362-00082351-00082638 saying the artist strictly limits
ip_Z3CL_ily-00363-00082639-00082823 himself to reflections with this
ip_Z3CL_ily-00364-00082824-00082911 consequence
ip_Z3CL_ily-00365-00082912-00083199 that one has an upside-down picture the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00366-00083200-00083438 invisible trees announce themselves only
ip_Z3CL_ily-00367-00083439-00083567 through their images
ip_Z3CL_ily-00368-00083568-00083871 the sky ingenious surprise instead of
ip_Z3CL_ily-00369-00083872-00084071 forming a cupola touches the lower
ip_Z3CL_ily-00370-00084072-00084335 border of the frame
ip_Z3CL_ily-00371-00084336-00084567 critically encoded understandings of how
ip_Z3CL_ily-00372-00084568-00084735 the world and its representation
ip_Z3CL_ily-00373-00084736-00085015 are organized are thus inverted in
ip_Z3CL_ily-00374-00085016-00085255 politician georges clem also's words
ip_Z3CL_ily-00375-00085256-00085518 the water lilies are an encounter with a
ip_Z3CL_ily-00376-00085519-00085599 world turned
ip_Z3CL_ily-00377-00085600-00086006 upside down made unfamiliar
ip_Z3CL_ily-00378-00086007-00086247 these observations just a sampling of
ip_Z3CL_ily-00379-00086248-00086359 such language
ip_Z3CL_ily-00380-00086360-00086591 evidence an audience attuned to monet's
ip_Z3CL_ily-00381-00086592-00086862 plays with gravitational disruption
ip_Z3CL_ily-00382-00086863-00087111 by only offering an already upturned
ip_Z3CL_ily-00383-00087112-00087191 picture
ip_Z3CL_ily-00384-00087192-00087455 the water lilies depend not on doubling
ip_Z3CL_ily-00385-00087456-00087662 but on an enigmatically profuse
ip_Z3CL_ily-00386-00087663-00088103 single view this turn towards the pond
ip_Z3CL_ily-00387-00088104-00088279 to the exclusion of its earthen
ip_Z3CL_ily-00388-00088280-00088511 edges materializes what journalist
ip_Z3CL_ily-00389-00088512-00088703 maurice guillemot described as
ip_Z3CL_ily-00390-00088704-00089015 a horizon of water compare this with
ip_Z3CL_ily-00391-00089016-00089126 kemp's view of
ip_Z3CL_ily-00392-00089127-00089367 water without horizon which echoes
ip_Z3CL_ily-00393-00089368-00089575 monet's own vision of
ip_Z3CL_ily-00394-00089576-00089950 a wave without horizon and without shore
ip_Z3CL_ily-00395-00089951-00090206 as both a presence and an absence the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00396-00090207-00090503 horizon thus defines the water lilies
ip_Z3CL_ily-00397-00090504-00090775 if duray had reported that in 1877
ip_Z3CL_ily-00398-00090776-00090950 paintings the horizon was
ip_Z3CL_ily-00399-00090951-00091218 indistinguishable it now exceeded that
ip_Z3CL_ily-00400-00091219-00091367 imperceptibility
ip_Z3CL_ily-00401-00091368-00091726 seeming at once accentuated and expunged
ip_Z3CL_ily-00402-00091727-00091943 echoing the operations of the upside
ip_Z3CL_ily-00403-00091944-00092223 down which employs dynamic reversals in
ip_Z3CL_ily-00404-00092224-00092375 order to yield meaning
ip_Z3CL_ily-00405-00092376-00092582 this intersection at the limits of our
ip_Z3CL_ily-00406-00092583-00092735 view typifies
ip_Z3CL_ily-00407-00092736-00093199 liminality how then did monet navigate
ip_Z3CL_ily-00408-00093200-00093638 portraying and occluding the horizon
ip_Z3CL_ily-00409-00093639-00093943 even in scenes with earthen horizons
ip_Z3CL_ily-00410-00093944-00094206 that recede beyond bodies of water the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00411-00094207-00094455 line between land and liquid constitutes
ip_Z3CL_ily-00412-00094456-00094543 a pivot
ip_Z3CL_ily-00413-00094544-00094879 a kind of internal horizon monet attends
ip_Z3CL_ily-00414-00094880-00095159 to such edges as early as 1868
ip_Z3CL_ily-00415-00095160-00095462 in on the senate bench the fact that he
ip_Z3CL_ily-00416-00095463-00095671 portrays the reflection of the house at
ip_Z3CL_ily-00417-00095672-00095718 left
ip_Z3CL_ily-00418-00095719-00095903 but obscures its architectural
ip_Z3CL_ily-00419-00095904-00096103 counterpart puts pressure on the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00420-00096104-00096271 function of this threshold
ip_Z3CL_ily-00421-00096272-00096438 in the construction of upside-down
ip_Z3CL_ily-00422-00096439-00096671 pictures demonstrating what such a
ip_Z3CL_ily-00423-00096672-00096903 watery hinge has the power to grant
ip_Z3CL_ily-00424-00096904-00097215 and withhold the angle monet selected
ip_Z3CL_ily-00425-00097216-00097382 assigns significant space to the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00426-00097383-00097631 reflection calling our attention to what
ip_Z3CL_ily-00427-00097632-00097662 that
ip_Z3CL_ily-00428-00097663-00097855 inverted imagery offers that the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00429-00097856-00098031 structural world cannot
ip_Z3CL_ily-00430-00098032-00098343 and vice versa the pictorial element
ip_Z3CL_ily-00431-00098344-00098543 that adjudicates this distinction
ip_Z3CL_ily-00432-00098544-00098967 is the pivot of an internal threshold
ip_Z3CL_ily-00433-00098968-00099143 even scenes in which these linear
ip_Z3CL_ily-00434-00099144-00099335 divisions are less demarcated
ip_Z3CL_ily-00435-00099336-00099567 depend upon rotation around a fixed
ip_Z3CL_ily-00436-00099568-00099671 intermediary
ip_Z3CL_ily-00437-00099672-00099974 that analogizes the zones sets
ip_Z3CL_ily-00438-00099975-00100126 whether or not they are visually
ip_Z3CL_ily-00439-00100127-00100350 interchangeable these two alternating
ip_Z3CL_ily-00440-00100351-00100462 possibilities
ip_Z3CL_ily-00441-00100463-00100879 emphasize the joint in the middle
ip_Z3CL_ily-00442-00100880-00101159 by contrast the water lilies inhabit
ip_Z3CL_ily-00443-00101160-00101294 that very space
ip_Z3CL_ily-00444-00101295-00101550 between up and down activating and
ip_Z3CL_ily-00445-00101551-00101767 endlessly multiplying its rotational
ip_Z3CL_ily-00446-00101768-00101894 potential
ip_Z3CL_ily-00447-00101895-00102062 ultimately what isn't shown at a
ip_Z3CL_ily-00448-00102063-00102231 distance the horizon
ip_Z3CL_ily-00449-00102232-00102518 is rather the very arena of the picture
ip_Z3CL_ily-00450-00102519-00102751 so proximal as to be enveloping
ip_Z3CL_ily-00451-00102752-00102942 thresholds in the water lilies are both
ip_Z3CL_ily-00452-00102943-00103063 eradicated and
ip_Z3CL_ily-00453-00103064-00103358 encompassed from within these canvases
ip_Z3CL_ily-00454-00103359-00103502 horizons of water
ip_Z3CL_ily-00455-00103503-00103878 expand infinitely
ip_Z3CL_ily-00456-00103879-00104134 this capacious pictorial space is born
ip_Z3CL_ily-00457-00104135-00104342 of angular intersections
ip_Z3CL_ily-00458-00104343-00104534 the left side of the water lily's green
ip_Z3CL_ily-00459-00104535-00104710 reflections for instance
ip_Z3CL_ily-00460-00104711-00104902 maintains a calculated balance between
ip_Z3CL_ily-00461-00104903-00105110 horizontal and vertical
ip_Z3CL_ily-00462-00105111-00105415 shocks of deep blue reflected sky are
ip_Z3CL_ily-00463-00105416-00105558 interspersed with green
ip_Z3CL_ily-00464-00105559-00105799 reflected willows if not for the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00465-00105800-00105934 elliptical gestures
ip_Z3CL_ily-00466-00105935-00106175 lily pads and blooms that chart lateral
ip_Z3CL_ily-00467-00106176-00106375 pathways across the canvas
ip_Z3CL_ily-00468-00106376-00106615 the inverted imagery behind below and
ip_Z3CL_ily-00469-00106616-00106766 above them would not read
ip_Z3CL_ily-00470-00106767-00107119 as such the blossoms signify surface
ip_Z3CL_ily-00471-00107120-00107415 of the pond and of the canvas this
ip_Z3CL_ily-00472-00107416-00107639 incursion connects the paintings to the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00473-00107640-00107758 upright
ip_Z3CL_ily-00474-00107759-00108015 we see swaths of pigment as trees or
ip_Z3CL_ily-00475-00108016-00108086 clouds
ip_Z3CL_ily-00476-00108088-00108302 because the dabs of paint that sit atop
ip_Z3CL_ily-00477-00108303-00108527 them coalesce in our perception as
ip_Z3CL_ily-00478-00108528-00108702 floating flowers
ip_Z3CL_ily-00479-00108703-00108975 the expanses of undulating color become
ip_Z3CL_ily-00480-00108976-00109302 inverted projections of our world
ip_Z3CL_ily-00481-00109303-00109502 importantly none of these elements
ip_Z3CL_ily-00482-00109503-00109743 recede so as to grant our eyes a sense
ip_Z3CL_ily-00483-00109744-00109919 of volumetric depth
ip_Z3CL_ily-00484-00109920-00110383 instead we see axial transpositions
ip_Z3CL_ily-00485-00110383-00110663 here blues seem both behind and under
ip_Z3CL_ily-00486-00110664-00110878 suggestions of lily pads
ip_Z3CL_ily-00487-00110879-00111143 white while white lilts to the front
ip_Z3CL_ily-00488-00111144-00111358 only to be overtaken by the dark pool
ip_Z3CL_ily-00489-00111359-00111647 at right we know that the physical pond
ip_Z3CL_ily-00490-00111648-00111863 exists on a horizontal plane
ip_Z3CL_ily-00491-00111864-00112071 expanding outward and below where we
ip_Z3CL_ily-00492-00112072-00112239 would stand on the shore
ip_Z3CL_ily-00493-00112240-00112478 but monet has not given us the stability
ip_Z3CL_ily-00494-00112479-00112639 of such a view
ip_Z3CL_ily-00495-00112640-00112878 instead we are met with an upturned
ip_Z3CL_ily-00496-00112879-00112966 surface
ip_Z3CL_ily-00497-00112967-00113175 whose downward plunging reflections
ip_Z3CL_ily-00498-00113176-00113399 convey a verticality that is consonant
ip_Z3CL_ily-00499-00113400-00113543 with the wall
ip_Z3CL_ily-00500-00113544-00113807 these counter balancing elements omit a
ip_Z3CL_ily-00501-00113808-00114015 singular governing axis
ip_Z3CL_ily-00502-00114016-00114271 destabilizing gravity's pull so that the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00503-00114272-00114399 canvases register
ip_Z3CL_ily-00504-00114400-00114734 as at once horizontal and vertical
ip_Z3CL_ily-00505-00114735-00115223 poised to expand contract and oscillate
ip_Z3CL_ily-00506-00115224-00115463 we are in turn enveloped in their
ip_Z3CL_ily-00507-00115464-00115654 vertiginous sensibility
ip_Z3CL_ily-00508-00115655-00115831 like the floating vapor and liquid
ip_Z3CL_ily-00509-00115832-00116047 around us we are somewhere between
ip_Z3CL_ily-00510-00116048-00116343 water and air and perhaps simultaneously
ip_Z3CL_ily-00511-00116344-00116686 intersecting with both
ip_Z3CL_ily-00512-00116688-00116871 though the water lilies do not depict
ip_Z3CL_ily-00513-00116872-00117134 humanity i contend that our bodies are
ip_Z3CL_ily-00514-00117135-00117327 vital to their construction
ip_Z3CL_ily-00515-00117328-00117527 people need not be portrayed to be
ip_Z3CL_ily-00516-00117528-00117631 present
ip_Z3CL_ily-00517-00117632-00117871 the painting's sheer scale invites us to
ip_Z3CL_ily-00518-00117872-00118078 imagine entering their life-sized
ip_Z3CL_ily-00519-00118079-00118431 space but we do not merely inhabit
ip_Z3CL_ily-00520-00118432-00118647 these fields of paint they elicit
ip_Z3CL_ily-00521-00118648-00118823 corporeal response
ip_Z3CL_ily-00522-00118824-00119078 a seemingly upturned picture can inspire
ip_Z3CL_ily-00523-00119079-00119358 an embodied echo of its alignment
ip_Z3CL_ily-00524-00119359-00119551 we do not necessarily perceive the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00525-00119552-00119702 object as upside down
ip_Z3CL_ily-00526-00119703-00119999 so much as ourselves our gravitationally
ip_Z3CL_ily-00527-00120000-00120214 conditioned bodies are implicated in
ip_Z3CL_ily-00528-00120215-00120543 axial disorientation
ip_Z3CL_ily-00529-00120544-00120766 the water lilies thus open us to a
ip_Z3CL_ily-00530-00120767-00120943 sensation of inversion
ip_Z3CL_ily-00531-00120944-00121310 as one 1909 critic describes
ip_Z3CL_ily-00532-00121311-00121543 the basins of water appear to double
ip_Z3CL_ily-00533-00121544-00121695 themselves in a mirror
ip_Z3CL_ily-00534-00121696-00121895 the feeling produced by this impression
ip_Z3CL_ily-00535-00121896-00122071 is almost inexpressible
ip_Z3CL_ily-00536-00122072-00122231 in the water there are reflections of
ip_Z3CL_ily-00537-00122232-00122399 trees that one doesn't see
ip_Z3CL_ily-00538-00122400-00122623 so that when one turns away one is
ip_Z3CL_ily-00539-00122624-00122783 surprised not to be walking on the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00540-00122783-00123014 ceiling and seeing everyone who has also
ip_Z3CL_ily-00541-00123015-00123278 come to admire these magical portraits
ip_Z3CL_ily-00542-00123279-00123678 upside down what she relates is not a
ip_Z3CL_ily-00543-00123679-00123886 sense that the compositions are removed
ip_Z3CL_ily-00544-00123888-00123999 from reality
ip_Z3CL_ily-00545-00124000-00124190 but that they and their portrayed
ip_Z3CL_ily-00546-00124191-00124327 orientations
ip_Z3CL_ily-00547-00124328-00124710 affect and even govern our own in 1956
ip_Z3CL_ily-00548-00124711-00124951 art historian leo steinberg described
ip_Z3CL_ily-00549-00124952-00125158 similar corporeal and pictorial
ip_Z3CL_ily-00550-00125159-00125254 acrobatics
ip_Z3CL_ily-00551-00125255-00125543 when faced with a water lily canvas you
ip_Z3CL_ily-00552-00125544-00125671 can invert yourself
ip_Z3CL_ily-00553-00125672-00125975 for the picture at will he says lie
ip_Z3CL_ily-00554-00125976-00126247 cheek to cheek with the horizon rise on
ip_Z3CL_ily-00555-00126248-00126366 a falling cloud
ip_Z3CL_ily-00556-00126367-00126631 or drift with lily leaves over a sunken
ip_Z3CL_ily-00557-00126632-00126895 sky
ip_Z3CL_ily-00558-00126896-00127158 translated to the temporal these ongoing
ip_Z3CL_ily-00559-00127159-00127254 oscillations
ip_Z3CL_ily-00560-00127255-00127543 yield a protracted experience though
ip_Z3CL_ily-00561-00127544-00127599 monet's
ip_Z3CL_ily-00562-00127600-00127814 watery depths and surfaces capture the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00563-00127815-00128047 passing impact of light and wind
ip_Z3CL_ily-00564-00128048-00128286 the relative stillness of the water
ip_Z3CL_ily-00565-00128288-00128534 capable of mirroring such effects
ip_Z3CL_ily-00566-00128535-00128758 imbues even the most fleeting of scenes
ip_Z3CL_ily-00567-00128759-00128958 with a sense of elongation
ip_Z3CL_ily-00568-00128959-00129199 a more meditative and less momentary
ip_Z3CL_ily-00569-00129200-00129310 tempo
ip_Z3CL_ily-00570-00129311-00129599 in fact in order to legibly yield upside
ip_Z3CL_ily-00571-00129600-00129719 down pictures
ip_Z3CL_ily-00572-00129720-00129999 water must be still as reflections are
ip_Z3CL_ily-00573-00130000-00130158 fickle
ip_Z3CL_ily-00574-00130159-00130463 noting this clemenzo posits doesn't it
ip_Z3CL_ily-00575-00130464-00130631 follow that as we look at the sky
ip_Z3CL_ily-00576-00130632-00130847 on the surface of these still waters
ip_Z3CL_ily-00577-00130848-00130999 this dynamic reality
ip_Z3CL_ily-00578-00131000-00131319 turned upside down we pursue in our own
ip_Z3CL_ily-00579-00131320-00131447 imagination
ip_Z3CL_ily-00580-00131448-00131702 realities that we can never catch never
ip_Z3CL_ily-00581-00131703-00131927 keep still
ip_Z3CL_ily-00582-00131928-00132111 while the waters are at rest our
ip_Z3CL_ily-00583-00132112-00132359 imaginations are not static
ip_Z3CL_ily-00584-00132360-00132614 this vibratory stillness emerges as the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00585-00132615-00132743 oscillatory other
ip_Z3CL_ily-00586-00132744-00133014 to the pressing pace of modern life a
ip_Z3CL_ily-00587-00133015-00133111 kind of temporal
ip_Z3CL_ily-00588-00133112-00133551 upside down to the momentum of modernity
ip_Z3CL_ily-00589-00133552-00133735 from the state of sustained in
ip_Z3CL_ily-00590-00133736-00134054 conclusion i will conclude
ip_Z3CL_ily-00591-00134055-00134311 monet's canvases suspend rather than
ip_Z3CL_ily-00592-00134312-00134527 grant definitive direction
ip_Z3CL_ily-00593-00134528-00134735 inviting us to imagine liberated
ip_Z3CL_ily-00594-00134736-00134983 negotiations with gravity
ip_Z3CL_ily-00595-00134984-00135175 in addition to being upside down
ip_Z3CL_ily-00596-00135176-00135343 paintings in the sense that period
ip_Z3CL_ily-00597-00135344-00135519 critics observed
ip_Z3CL_ily-00598-00135520-00135759 the works themselves exude and evoke
ip_Z3CL_ily-00599-00135760-00135895 oscillation
ip_Z3CL_ily-00600-00135896-00136143 by simultaneously functioning as
ip_Z3CL_ily-00601-00136144-00136414 representations of an inverted reality
ip_Z3CL_ily-00602-00136415-00136631 suggesting that they themselves could be
ip_Z3CL_ily-00603-00136632-00136735 upturned
ip_Z3CL_ily-00604-00136736-00136951 and invoking imagined corporeal
ip_Z3CL_ily-00605-00136952-00137071 calisthenics
ip_Z3CL_ily-00606-00137072-00137254 the water lilies schematize the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00607-00137255-00137511 condition of upside downness
ip_Z3CL_ily-00608-00137512-00137831 holding its potential in suspension
ip_Z3CL_ily-00609-00137832-00138111 we are not explicitly upside down nor
ip_Z3CL_ily-00610-00138112-00138231 are the paintings
ip_Z3CL_ily-00611-00138232-00138439 but their creative manipulation of the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00612-00138440-00138743 poles around which such reversals occur
ip_Z3CL_ily-00613-00138744-00138975 opens them up to a kind of gravitational
ip_Z3CL_ily-00614-00138976-00139151 imagination
ip_Z3CL_ily-00615-00139152-00139366 there is a quietude these paintings
ip_Z3CL_ily-00616-00139367-00139511 invite us to feel
ip_Z3CL_ily-00617-00139512-00141071 in disorientation thank you
ip_Z3CL_ily-00618-00141072-00141302 thank you miriam that was absolutely
ip_Z3CL_ily-00619-00141303-00141487 fascinating
ip_Z3CL_ily-00620-00141488-00141790 um i look forward to talking about it in
ip_Z3CL_ily-00621-00141791-00141990 the discussion
ip_Z3CL_ily-00622-00141991-00142319 i would like to welcome now
ip_Z3CL_ily-00623-00142320-00142566 wendy bellion professor and chair in
ip_Z3CL_ily-00624-00142567-00142799 american art history at the university
ip_Z3CL_ily-00625-00142800-00142911 of delaware
ip_Z3CL_ily-00626-00142912-00143271 to introduce her student thomas
ip_Z3CL_ily-00627-00143272-00144526 usiglio ritter
ip_Z3CL_ily-00628-00144527-00144799 greetings my name is wendy bellion i'm a
ip_Z3CL_ily-00629-00144800-00144935 professor of art history at the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00630-00144936-00145063 university of delaware
ip_Z3CL_ily-00631-00145064-00145254 and it's my great pleasure to introduce
ip_Z3CL_ily-00632-00145255-00145639 my student thomas busiglio ritter
ip_Z3CL_ily-00633-00145640-00145959 thomas is an andrew w mellon fellow
ip_Z3CL_ily-00634-00145960-00146278 in our curatorial track ph.d program he
ip_Z3CL_ily-00635-00146279-00146414 came to delaware with several
ip_Z3CL_ily-00636-00146415-00146607 prestigious degrees in hand
ip_Z3CL_ily-00637-00146608-00146895 including a b.a from the sorbonne an m.a
ip_Z3CL_ily-00638-00146896-00147023 from ceospo
ip_Z3CL_ily-00639-00147024-00147278 and a second ma from the equal du louvre
ip_Z3CL_ily-00640-00147279-00147454 from which he graduated with highest
ip_Z3CL_ily-00641-00147455-00147575 honors
ip_Z3CL_ily-00642-00147576-00147807 while at delaware he's completed several
ip_Z3CL_ily-00643-00147808-00147975 curatorial internships
ip_Z3CL_ily-00644-00147976-00148190 including one at the met and another at
ip_Z3CL_ily-00645-00148191-00148351 the pennsylvania academy of the fine
ip_Z3CL_ily-00646-00148352-00148454 arts
ip_Z3CL_ily-00647-00148455-00148647 he's also been very active in our center
ip_Z3CL_ily-00648-00148648-00148847 for material culture studies
ip_Z3CL_ily-00649-00148848-00149143 where he's serving as co-chair for an
ip_Z3CL_ily-00650-00149144-00149383 upcoming emerging scholar symposium
ip_Z3CL_ily-00651-00149384-00149678 on the topic of anna materialities and
ip_Z3CL_ily-00652-00149679-00149839 he also has held a competitive
ip_Z3CL_ily-00653-00149840-00149895 fellowship
ip_Z3CL_ily-00654-00149896-00150190 in the public humanities thomas is now
ip_Z3CL_ily-00655-00150191-00150375 working on his dissertation which is
ip_Z3CL_ily-00656-00150376-00150463 entitled
ip_Z3CL_ily-00657-00150464-00150743 the union of excellences an atlantic
ip_Z3CL_ily-00658-00150744-00151051 history of american landscape views
ip_Z3CL_ily-00659-00151052-00151431 1790-1860 this innovative project asks
ip_Z3CL_ily-00660-00151432-00151639 how the practice of american landscape
ip_Z3CL_ily-00661-00151640-00151702 art
ip_Z3CL_ily-00662-00151703-00151935 turned on the work of painters and
ip_Z3CL_ily-00663-00151936-00152014 printers
ip_Z3CL_ily-00664-00152015-00152254 outside the united states as well as
ip_Z3CL_ily-00665-00152255-00152439 those within it
ip_Z3CL_ily-00666-00152440-00152726 thomas has identified british french and
ip_Z3CL_ily-00667-00152727-00152847 german artists
ip_Z3CL_ily-00668-00152848-00153102 creating landscapes of the us on both
ip_Z3CL_ily-00669-00153103-00153278 sides of the atlantic
ip_Z3CL_ily-00670-00153279-00153478 his dissertation thereby aims to
ip_Z3CL_ily-00671-00153479-00153702 complicate long-haired assumptions
ip_Z3CL_ily-00672-00153703-00153951 about the supposed american-ness of
ip_Z3CL_ily-00673-00153952-00154223 american landscape art
ip_Z3CL_ily-00674-00154224-00154431 thomas's presentation today derives from
ip_Z3CL_ily-00675-00154432-00154535 this project
ip_Z3CL_ily-00676-00154536-00154807 and it's entitled after the celebration
ip_Z3CL_ily-00677-00154808-00154926 antoine in their
ip_Z3CL_ily-00678-00154927-00155151 and the rise of transatlantic landscape
ip_Z3CL_ily-00679-00155152-00155302 lithography
ip_Z3CL_ily-00680-00155303-00156014 i hope you'll enjoy it as much as i have
ip_Z3CL_ily-00681-00156015-00156295 thank you good afternoon everyone thank
ip_Z3CL_ily-00682-00156296-00156566 you for tuning in wherever you are
ip_Z3CL_ily-00683-00156567-00156823 and thank you to the organizers of this
ip_Z3CL_ily-00684-00156824-00156935 symposium
ip_Z3CL_ily-00685-00156936-00157111 for allowing me to present my research
ip_Z3CL_ily-00686-00157112-00157519 here
ip_Z3CL_ily-00687-00157520-00157823 a man fires a row of cannons ships
ip_Z3CL_ily-00688-00157824-00158047 responds to the shots coming from the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00689-00158048-00158151 pier
ip_Z3CL_ily-00690-00158152-00158407 the lighthouse stands to the right not
ip_Z3CL_ily-00691-00158408-00158519 far from a fort
ip_Z3CL_ily-00692-00158520-00158839 jutting out into the sea a smoke rises
ip_Z3CL_ily-00693-00158840-00159007 from everywhere
ip_Z3CL_ily-00694-00159008-00159231 all around the noise is probably
ip_Z3CL_ily-00695-00159232-00159383 deafening
ip_Z3CL_ily-00696-00159384-00159759 this however is no war scene
ip_Z3CL_ily-00697-00159760-00160151 date was november 4th 1825 and the place
ip_Z3CL_ily-00698-00160152-00160375 the battery at the southern tip of the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00699-00160376-00160566 island of manhattan
ip_Z3CL_ily-00700-00160567-00160790 assembled in the bay the fleet that
ip_Z3CL_ily-00701-00160791-00160975 reached the city after a journey down
ip_Z3CL_ily-00702-00160976-00161063 from albany
ip_Z3CL_ily-00703-00161064-00161263 the state's capital was the arch
ip_Z3CL_ily-00704-00161264-00161535 spectacle of celebrations organized by
ip_Z3CL_ily-00705-00161536-00161607 new york
ip_Z3CL_ily-00706-00161608-00161831 to mark the completion of a major
ip_Z3CL_ily-00707-00161832-00161935 project
ip_Z3CL_ily-00708-00161936-00162254 the erie canal connecting buffalo to
ip_Z3CL_ily-00709-00162255-00162335 albany
ip_Z3CL_ily-00710-00162336-00162543 the canal had been advocated by a number
ip_Z3CL_ily-00711-00162544-00162654 of merchants
ip_Z3CL_ily-00712-00162655-00163087 with construction starting in 1817
ip_Z3CL_ily-00713-00163088-00163335 it should come as no surprise then that
ip_Z3CL_ily-00714-00163336-00163535 shortly before the festivities
ip_Z3CL_ily-00715-00163536-00163766 catwalder david colton had been
ip_Z3CL_ily-00716-00163767-00163935 commissioned by the common council of
ip_Z3CL_ily-00717-00163936-00163999 new york
ip_Z3CL_ily-00718-00164000-00164271 the city's highest legislative body to
ip_Z3CL_ily-00719-00164272-00164454 produce an illustrated memoir to
ip_Z3CL_ily-00720-00164455-00164678 commemorate what many saw as a national
ip_Z3CL_ily-00721-00164679-00164863 achievement
ip_Z3CL_ily-00722-00164864-00165023 completed a few days before the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00723-00165024-00165278 inaugural parade the printed memoir was
ip_Z3CL_ily-00724-00165279-00165399 approved by the common
ip_Z3CL_ily-00725-00165400-00165814 council on november 7 1825
ip_Z3CL_ily-00726-00165815-00166071 the publication consisted of a narrative
ip_Z3CL_ily-00727-00166072-00166326 of the canal written by colton himself
ip_Z3CL_ily-00728-00166327-00166683 as well as speeches maps and engraved
ip_Z3CL_ily-00729-00166684-00166807 scenes
ip_Z3CL_ily-00730-00166808-00167007 a folding nine by thirty nine inches
ip_Z3CL_ily-00731-00167008-00167175 lithograph in particular
ip_Z3CL_ily-00732-00167176-00167463 was meant to offer a striking depiction
ip_Z3CL_ily-00733-00167464-00167654 of one of the naval feasts planned by
ip_Z3CL_ily-00734-00167655-00167702 coden
ip_Z3CL_ily-00735-00167703-00168007 and his fellow organizers designed by
ip_Z3CL_ily-00736-00168008-00168214 painter archibald robertson
ip_Z3CL_ily-00737-00168215-00168399 the view represented one of the first
ip_Z3CL_ily-00738-00168400-00168663 attempts by an american publication
ip_Z3CL_ily-00739-00168664-00168902 resorting to a faster printing mode
ip_Z3CL_ily-00740-00168903-00169102 recently imported from europe
ip_Z3CL_ily-00741-00169103-00169414 lithography it was represented
ip_Z3CL_ily-00742-00169415-00169623 for its printmaker an opportunity to
ip_Z3CL_ily-00743-00169624-00169790 make a name for himself
ip_Z3CL_ily-00744-00169791-00169999 in a city where he had recently moved to
ip_Z3CL_ily-00745-00170000-00170214 from his native france
ip_Z3CL_ily-00746-00170215-00170526 born around 1794 antoine
ip_Z3CL_ily-00747-00170527-00170790 the man entrusted with the task was a
ip_Z3CL_ily-00748-00170791-00170966 self-trained artist
ip_Z3CL_ily-00749-00170967-00171166 his background as painter and engraver
ip_Z3CL_ily-00750-00171167-00171351 is unknown yet he advertised his
ip_Z3CL_ily-00751-00171352-00171487 services as such
ip_Z3CL_ily-00752-00171488-00171687 after leaving europe for new york in
ip_Z3CL_ily-00753-00171688-00171935 1824
ip_Z3CL_ily-00754-00171936-00172063 though the first month of his
ip_Z3CL_ily-00755-00172064-00172278 immigration were not flourishing
ip_Z3CL_ily-00756-00172279-00172478 his collaboration with robertson and
ip_Z3CL_ily-00757-00172479-00172678 colton would soon turn him
ip_Z3CL_ily-00758-00172679-00172895 into one of the main architects of a
ip_Z3CL_ily-00759-00172896-00173111 lithographic reinterpretation
ip_Z3CL_ily-00760-00173112-00173399 of american landscapes and waterscapes
ip_Z3CL_ily-00761-00173400-00173495 in truth
ip_Z3CL_ily-00762-00173496-00173711 dumbbells enterprise represented one of
ip_Z3CL_ily-00763-00173712-00173831 the many forms
ip_Z3CL_ily-00764-00173832-00174095 of early 19th century circulation of
ip_Z3CL_ily-00765-00174096-00174287 printed american scenes
ip_Z3CL_ily-00766-00174288-00174623 on both sides of the ocean ambea
ip_Z3CL_ily-00767-00174624-00174766 encouraged the diffusion of such
ip_Z3CL_ily-00768-00174767-00174975 pictures by engaging with the works of
ip_Z3CL_ily-00769-00174976-00175199 the young painter thomas cole
ip_Z3CL_ily-00770-00175200-00175471 yet he also trained several european
ip_Z3CL_ily-00771-00175472-00175599 immigrant print makers
ip_Z3CL_ily-00772-00175600-00175831 who would then disseminate the medium in
ip_Z3CL_ily-00773-00175832-00176007 the country
ip_Z3CL_ily-00774-00176008-00176278 this presentation examines how amber and
ip_Z3CL_ily-00775-00176279-00176351 his peers
ip_Z3CL_ily-00776-00176352-00176559 contributed to expanding transnational
ip_Z3CL_ily-00777-00176560-00176790 print cultures in the atlantic world
ip_Z3CL_ily-00778-00176791-00177111 during the 1820s and 30s through their
ip_Z3CL_ily-00779-00177112-00177190 example
ip_Z3CL_ily-00780-00177191-00177326 i hope to show that landscape
ip_Z3CL_ily-00781-00177327-00177566 lithography linked different communities
ip_Z3CL_ily-00782-00177567-00177871 of mostly french printmakers across the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00783-00177872-00178111 united states and the atlantic
ip_Z3CL_ily-00784-00178112-00178366 an outcome of this research will thus be
ip_Z3CL_ily-00785-00178367-00178543 a new transatlantic narrative
ip_Z3CL_ily-00786-00178544-00178766 of 19th century american landscape
ip_Z3CL_ily-00787-00178767-00179023 prince
ip_Z3CL_ily-00788-00179024-00179151 hamberg's involvement with the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00789-00179152-00179326 publication of the memoir
ip_Z3CL_ily-00790-00179327-00179495 stemmed from his familiarity with the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00791-00179496-00179671 landscape of new york
ip_Z3CL_ily-00792-00179672-00179966 in october 1824 while still establishing
ip_Z3CL_ily-00793-00179967-00180151 his reputation locally
ip_Z3CL_ily-00794-00180152-00180383 he had run an advertisement announcing
ip_Z3CL_ily-00795-00180384-00180583 the exhibition of his latest painting
ip_Z3CL_ily-00796-00180584-00180775 depicting the landing of the marquis de
ip_Z3CL_ily-00797-00180776-00180959 lafayette and the battery
ip_Z3CL_ily-00798-00180960-00181319 on august 16 1824
ip_Z3CL_ily-00799-00181320-00181543 in many regards ambael's composition
ip_Z3CL_ily-00800-00181544-00181735 highlights the same visual elements
ip_Z3CL_ily-00801-00181736-00181935 chosen by archibald robertson
ip_Z3CL_ily-00802-00181936-00182238 to frame his own waterscape in fact
ip_Z3CL_ily-00803-00182239-00182407 it is likely that robertson knew of
ip_Z3CL_ily-00804-00182408-00182783 ambia's picture focused on the same site
ip_Z3CL_ily-00805-00182784-00183038 moreover ambassador's timely arrival
ip_Z3CL_ily-00806-00183039-00183263 coincided with the lithographic boom in
ip_Z3CL_ily-00807-00183264-00183495 the united states
ip_Z3CL_ily-00808-00183496-00183719 developed by bavarian playwright louis
ip_Z3CL_ily-00809-00183720-00184007 xenofelder in the late 1790s
ip_Z3CL_ily-00810-00184008-00184223 lithographic printing was a cheap and
ip_Z3CL_ily-00811-00184224-00184454 fast method of engraving
ip_Z3CL_ily-00812-00184455-00184719 by 1820 it had been turned into a
ip_Z3CL_ily-00813-00184720-00184838 continental mean
ip_Z3CL_ily-00814-00184839-00185247 continental medium born in mules alsace
ip_Z3CL_ily-00815-00185248-00185526 couture engelmann for example served as
ip_Z3CL_ily-00816-00185527-00185750 a bridge between german and french print
ip_Z3CL_ily-00817-00185751-00185902 cultures
ip_Z3CL_ily-00818-00185903-00186087 painter engelmann was introduced to
ip_Z3CL_ily-00819-00186088-00186319 lithography in munich
ip_Z3CL_ily-00820-00186320-00186607 upon returning to france in 1816 he
ip_Z3CL_ily-00821-00186608-00186775 opened the studio in paris
ip_Z3CL_ily-00822-00186776-00187102 becoming the city's premier lithographer
ip_Z3CL_ily-00823-00187103-00187295 engelman's career illustrates the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00824-00187296-00187526 transnational exchange of knowledge
ip_Z3CL_ily-00825-00187527-00187743 occurring across europe around
ip_Z3CL_ily-00826-00187744-00187831 lithography
ip_Z3CL_ily-00827-00187832-00188175 during the first decades of this process
ip_Z3CL_ily-00828-00188176-00188399 the technique soon reached the united
ip_Z3CL_ily-00829-00188400-00188526 states
ip_Z3CL_ily-00830-00188527-00188871 in 1819 artist bas otis produced the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00831-00188872-00189054 first american lithograph
ip_Z3CL_ily-00832-00189055-00189287 a scene featuring a mill house by a
ip_Z3CL_ily-00833-00189288-00189431 stream
ip_Z3CL_ily-00834-00189432-00189647 where produced in the analytic magazine
ip_Z3CL_ily-00835-00189648-00189854 otis's picture was accompanied by a
ip_Z3CL_ily-00836-00189855-00190047 discussion of the benefits of the new
ip_Z3CL_ily-00837-00190048-00190143 technique
ip_Z3CL_ily-00838-00190144-00190350 as well as of the methods developed by
ip_Z3CL_ily-00839-00190351-00190687 engelman in france otis choice of
ip_Z3CL_ily-00840-00190688-00190790 subject matter
ip_Z3CL_ily-00841-00190791-00191014 was reminiscent of his surroundings as a
ip_Z3CL_ily-00842-00191015-00191199 philadelphia-based painter
ip_Z3CL_ily-00843-00191200-00191471 yet also of contemporary landscapes like
ip_Z3CL_ily-00844-00191472-00191566 thomas burch
ip_Z3CL_ily-00845-00191567-00191854 and thomas doughty otis would have
ip_Z3CL_ily-00846-00191855-00192038 encountered them at the pennsylvania
ip_Z3CL_ily-00847-00192039-00192207 academy of the fine arts
ip_Z3CL_ily-00848-00192208-00192407 where the three men displayed works
ip_Z3CL_ily-00849-00192408-00192775 together at the turn of the 1820s
ip_Z3CL_ily-00850-00192776-00193023 from the start then american lithography
ip_Z3CL_ily-00851-00193024-00193190 became linked to the development of
ip_Z3CL_ily-00852-00193191-00193438 landscape painting in the early republic
ip_Z3CL_ily-00853-00193439-00193647 a process which philadelphia and new
ip_Z3CL_ily-00854-00193648-00194038 york stood at the forefront of
ip_Z3CL_ily-00855-00194039-00194278 meanwhile archibald robertson's own
ip_Z3CL_ily-00856-00194279-00194471 interest for landscape had drawn him to
ip_Z3CL_ily-00857-00194472-00194663 various print media
ip_Z3CL_ily-00858-00194664-00194878 having studied in london the scottish
ip_Z3CL_ily-00859-00194879-00195090 born robertson had moved to new york in
ip_Z3CL_ily-00860-00195091-00195207 1791
ip_Z3CL_ily-00861-00195208-00195495 with his brother alexander he quickly
ip_Z3CL_ily-00862-00195496-00195623 started sketching
ip_Z3CL_ily-00863-00195624-00195790 surrounding natural sites and the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00864-00195791-00196007 brothers watercolors were circulated
ip_Z3CL_ily-00865-00196008-00196054 both
ip_Z3CL_ily-00866-00196055-00196366 in the u.s and in britain there he
ip_Z3CL_ily-00867-00196367-00196559 commissioned london publisher francis
ip_Z3CL_ily-00868-00196560-00196623 dukes
ip_Z3CL_ily-00869-00196624-00196823 to turn them into acquittance for the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00870-00196824-00197023 british market
ip_Z3CL_ily-00871-00197024-00197231 and thanks to this early and wide
ip_Z3CL_ily-00872-00197232-00197359 circulation
ip_Z3CL_ily-00873-00197360-00197590 head walleter colton and his committee
ip_Z3CL_ily-00874-00197591-00197743 were familiar with robertson's
ip_Z3CL_ily-00875-00197744-00197871 productions
ip_Z3CL_ily-00876-00197872-00198078 even when they appointed him
ip_Z3CL_ily-00877-00198079-00198247 superintendent of the plates to be
ip_Z3CL_ily-00878-00198248-00198590 included in the memoir of the erie canal
ip_Z3CL_ily-00879-00198591-00198783 the medium of lithography supported by
ip_Z3CL_ily-00880-00198784-00199214 colton who gave
ip_Z3CL_ily-00881-00199215-00199535 responsible for the process such
ip_Z3CL_ily-00882-00199536-00199695 the latter was allowed to publish a
ip_Z3CL_ily-00883-00199696-00199878 series of remarks in the memoir
ip_Z3CL_ily-00884-00199879-00200150 to justify the choice of antoine amber
ip_Z3CL_ily-00885-00200151-00200263 raising his skills
ip_Z3CL_ily-00886-00200264-00200599 while introducing lithography to readers
ip_Z3CL_ily-00887-00200600-00200854 however robertson's mention in the same
ip_Z3CL_ily-00888-00200855-00200919 text
ip_Z3CL_ily-00889-00200920-00201175 of a collaborator to amber named felix
ip_Z3CL_ily-00890-00201176-00201311 du ponchel
ip_Z3CL_ily-00891-00201312-00201502 also hints at the already active
ip_Z3CL_ily-00892-00201503-00201702 presence of a group of french
ip_Z3CL_ily-00893-00201703-00201847 lithographer
ip_Z3CL_ily-00894-00201848-00202054 engaged in the production of american
ip_Z3CL_ily-00895-00202055-00202302 views in new york
ip_Z3CL_ily-00896-00202303-00202678 in fact as early as 1825
ip_Z3CL_ily-00897-00202679-00202919 had taken all apprentices from europe in
ip_Z3CL_ily-00898-00202920-00203054 his studio
ip_Z3CL_ily-00899-00203055-00203383 at 79 murray street located in the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00900-00203384-00203566 neighborhood of trades people west of
ip_Z3CL_ily-00901-00203567-00203711 city hall park
ip_Z3CL_ily-00902-00203712-00203966 the studio surroundings offered abe a
ip_Z3CL_ily-00903-00203967-00204143 large clientele of merchants
ip_Z3CL_ily-00904-00204144-00204366 for whom he designed emblems both
ip_Z3CL_ily-00905-00204367-00204695 painted and engraved the gentrification
ip_Z3CL_ily-00906-00204696-00204934 of the neighborhood during the 1830s
ip_Z3CL_ily-00907-00204935-00205127 brought yet another potential market to
ip_Z3CL_ily-00908-00205128-00205255 ampere's doors
ip_Z3CL_ily-00909-00205256-00205510 a phenomenon he seemed aware of since
ip_Z3CL_ily-00910-00205511-00205623 during this period
ip_Z3CL_ily-00911-00205623-00205910 he also opened a second studio at 104
ip_Z3CL_ily-00912-00205911-00205998 broadway
ip_Z3CL_ily-00913-00206000-00206431 not far from trinity church
ip_Z3CL_ily-00914-00206432-00206631 soon put his european assistance to the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00915-00206632-00206823 test by creating prince
ip_Z3CL_ily-00916-00206823-00207127 after compositions a young british born
ip_Z3CL_ily-00917-00207128-00207238 american artist
ip_Z3CL_ily-00918-00207239-00207558 thomas cole originally working
ip_Z3CL_ily-00919-00207559-00207751 for his father's wallpaper business in
ip_Z3CL_ily-00920-00207752-00208071 ohio paul had relocated to philadelphia
ip_Z3CL_ily-00921-00208071-00208390 in 1823 and then to new york to pursue a
ip_Z3CL_ily-00922-00208391-00208542 painting career
ip_Z3CL_ily-00923-00208544-00208831 in october 1825 less than a month before
ip_Z3CL_ily-00924-00208832-00209071 the city celebrated the erie canal
ip_Z3CL_ily-00925-00209071-00209294 his views of the catholic mountains
ip_Z3CL_ily-00926-00209296-00209503 caught the attention of john trumbull
ip_Z3CL_ily-00927-00209504-00209710 and president of the american academy of
ip_Z3CL_ily-00928-00209711-00209806 the fine arts
ip_Z3CL_ily-00929-00209807-00210094 who publicized them taking notice of
ip_Z3CL_ily-00930-00210096-00210239 course success
ip_Z3CL_ily-00931-00210240-00210455 bear enlisted dupont to produce a
ip_Z3CL_ily-00932-00210456-00210639 lithograph of the painter's view
ip_Z3CL_ily-00933-00210640-00210927 of the catskill mountain house though it
ip_Z3CL_ily-00934-00210928-00211094 is unclear how amber
ip_Z3CL_ily-00935-00211096-00211231 intended this lithograph to be
ip_Z3CL_ily-00936-00211232-00211479 distributed his involvement with coal
ip_Z3CL_ily-00937-00211480-00211823 did not stop there two years later
ip_Z3CL_ily-00938-00211823-00212167 in 1828 amber engraved a distant view
ip_Z3CL_ily-00939-00212167-00212358 of the slides that destroyed the wiley
ip_Z3CL_ily-00940-00212359-00212558 family depicting a site known as
ip_Z3CL_ily-00941-00212559-00212655 crawford notch
ip_Z3CL_ily-00942-00212656-00212942 in new hampshire the site had made the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00943-00212944-00213175 headlines after a landslide had killed
ip_Z3CL_ily-00944-00213176-00213310 the wiley family
ip_Z3CL_ily-00945-00213311-00213663 on august 28 1826
ip_Z3CL_ily-00946-00213664-00213879 turned into a tourist attraction the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00947-00213880-00213991 structure revived
ip_Z3CL_ily-00948-00213992-00214175 public interest for landscapes of
ip_Z3CL_ily-00949-00214176-00214294 spectacle
ip_Z3CL_ily-00950-00214296-00214491 the visual immediacy and mass
ip_Z3CL_ily-00951-00214492-00214734 reproducibility of lithography
ip_Z3CL_ily-00952-00214735-00214894 rendered the medium particularly
ip_Z3CL_ily-00953-00214896-00215158 suitable to record such sensational
ip_Z3CL_ily-00954-00215159-00215303 events
ip_Z3CL_ily-00955-00215304-00215510 paul himself was no stranger to the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00956-00215511-00215671 advantages of lithography
ip_Z3CL_ily-00957-00215671-00215894 promoting his pictures and while
ip_Z3CL_ily-00958-00215896-00216103 lithographers continued to tackle his
ip_Z3CL_ily-00959-00216104-00216182 phoenix
ip_Z3CL_ily-00960-00216183-00216375 the artist experimenting with
ip_Z3CL_ily-00961-00216376-00216639 experimented with the technique himself
ip_Z3CL_ily-00962-00216640-00217094 review of the falls at catskill in 1829
ip_Z3CL_ily-00963-00217096-00217319 this print was formerly attributed to
ip_Z3CL_ily-00964-00217319-00217446 amber by scholars
ip_Z3CL_ily-00965-00217448-00217655 which highlights the constant dialogue
ip_Z3CL_ily-00966-00217656-00217846 between the french lithographer
ip_Z3CL_ily-00967-00217848-00218175 and the american painter nobel's
ip_Z3CL_ily-00968-00218176-00218327 connection to cole's art
ip_Z3CL_ily-00969-00218328-00218558 also manifested forms of transatlantic
ip_Z3CL_ily-00970-00218559-00218655 exchanges
ip_Z3CL_ily-00971-00218656-00218951 around american landscape views in the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00972-00218952-00219079 late 1820s
ip_Z3CL_ily-00973-00219080-00219303 amber became acquainted with italian
ip_Z3CL_ily-00974-00219304-00219406 immigrant painter
ip_Z3CL_ily-00975-00219407-00219806 gerlando marcilia born in palermo sicily
ip_Z3CL_ily-00976-00219807-00220119 marcelia had been educated in naples
ip_Z3CL_ily-00977-00220119-00220455 in 1824 the year amber sailed to america
ip_Z3CL_ily-00978-00220456-00220815 marcelia moved to new york as well there
ip_Z3CL_ily-00979-00220816-00221167 he tackled the genre of lansky in 1828
ip_Z3CL_ily-00980-00221167-00221358 he followed the direction of thomas cole
ip_Z3CL_ily-00981-00221359-00221575 by sketching natural sights located in
ip_Z3CL_ily-00982-00221576-00221727 the catskills region of
ip_Z3CL_ily-00983-00221728-00221982 upstate new york especially catterskill
ip_Z3CL_ily-00984-00221983-00222110 falls
ip_Z3CL_ily-00985-00222111-00222327 though marcellius painting has been lost
ip_Z3CL_ily-00986-00222328-00222591 the lithograph made by ambea after it
ip_Z3CL_ily-00987-00222592-00222831 gives a measure of the flows of exchange
ip_Z3CL_ily-00988-00222832-00223158 between american and european artists
ip_Z3CL_ily-00989-00223159-00223487 marcelia's composition engraved by amber
ip_Z3CL_ily-00990-00223488-00223703 emulate coles emulates cole's view of
ip_Z3CL_ily-00991-00223704-00224006 the falls painted in 1826 by his patron
ip_Z3CL_ily-00992-00224007-00224215 daniel wadsworth
ip_Z3CL_ily-00993-00224216-00224446 whole sublime mode expressed in the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00994-00224448-00224623 violence of rushing waters
ip_Z3CL_ily-00995-00224623-00224855 has however been replaced by the feeling
ip_Z3CL_ily-00996-00224856-00225094 of a toned-down wilderness
ip_Z3CL_ily-00997-00225096-00225334 domesticated by figures strolling at the
ip_Z3CL_ily-00998-00225335-00225519 foot of the waters
ip_Z3CL_ily-00999-00225519-00225758 yet marcelia's reinterpretation of an
ip_Z3CL_ily-01000-00225759-00225894 american landscape
ip_Z3CL_ily-01001-00225896-00226175 was not the first translation of cole's
ip_Z3CL_ily-01002-00226176-00226351 canvas
ip_Z3CL_ily-01003-00226352-00226694 a year earlier in 1827 irish artist
ip_Z3CL_ily-01004-00226696-00226823 william guy wall
ip_Z3CL_ily-01005-00226823-00226998 had already tackled the subject of
ip_Z3CL_ily-01006-00227000-00227167 cole's picture
ip_Z3CL_ily-01007-00227167-00227423 his composition again imitating that of
ip_Z3CL_ily-01008-00227423-00227527 his predecessor
ip_Z3CL_ily-01009-00227528-00227782 presents figures exploring the landscape
ip_Z3CL_ily-01010-00227783-00227831 safe
ip_Z3CL_ily-01011-00227832-00228063 in the majesty of the mountains posing
ip_Z3CL_ily-01012-00228064-00228334 as well of euro-american tourists
ip_Z3CL_ily-01013-00228335-00228558 in that regard it seems marcelia's
ip_Z3CL_ily-01014-00228559-00228775 version borrowed more from wall than it
ip_Z3CL_ily-01015-00228776-00228934 did from coal
ip_Z3CL_ily-01016-00228935-00229175 inscribing multiple visual languages
ip_Z3CL_ily-01017-00229176-00229439 onto the same landscape
ip_Z3CL_ily-01018-00229440-00229631 producing a lithographic version of a
ip_Z3CL_ily-01019-00229632-00229894 scene by marcelia albayas catterskill
ip_Z3CL_ily-01020-00229896-00230031 folds participated
ip_Z3CL_ily-01021-00230032-00230246 in the materialization of a new
ip_Z3CL_ily-01022-00230248-00230382 transatlantic scale
ip_Z3CL_ily-01023-00230383-00230575 the reshaping of american landscape
ip_Z3CL_ily-01024-00230576-00230694 views
ip_Z3CL_ily-01025-00230696-00230951 these efforts were pursued into the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01026-00230952-00231046 1830s
ip_Z3CL_ily-01027-00231048-00231334 as aber focused on other iconic american
ip_Z3CL_ily-01028-00231335-00231575 sites such as niagara falls
ip_Z3CL_ily-01029-00231576-00231903 in 1834 he lithographed
ip_Z3CL_ily-01030-00231904-00232151 two views of the folds by marcelia this
ip_Z3CL_ily-01031-00232152-00232398 time inspired by british artist william
ip_Z3CL_ily-01032-00232400-00232575 james bennett
ip_Z3CL_ily-01033-00232576-00232839 the falls were painted by bennett during
ip_Z3CL_ily-01034-00232840-00232887 a trip
ip_Z3CL_ily-01035-00232888-00233246 in 1829 and first turned into aquitas
ip_Z3CL_ily-01036-00233248-00233479 by english artist john hill before being
ip_Z3CL_ily-01037-00233480-00233694 published in new york
ip_Z3CL_ily-01038-00233696-00233894 it is likely under this form that the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01039-00233896-00234151 images weren't encountered by marcelia
ip_Z3CL_ily-01040-00234152-00234463 still working for amber at the time
ip_Z3CL_ily-01041-00234464-00234671 thus his reproductions of bennett's
ip_Z3CL_ily-01042-00234671-00234894 images in turn found their way into
ip_Z3CL_ily-01043-00234896-00235110 lithographs by amber
ip_Z3CL_ily-01044-00235111-00235391 it locked marcelia's caterskill falls
ip_Z3CL_ily-01045-00235392-00235558 these views of niagara falls
ip_Z3CL_ily-01046-00235559-00235815 appealed to the power of landscape in a
ip_Z3CL_ily-01047-00235816-00235903 syncretic
ip_Z3CL_ily-01048-00235904-00236215 euro-american way engraved by amber
ip_Z3CL_ily-01049-00236216-00236391 after an italian artist had
ip_Z3CL_ily-01050-00236392-00236710 reinterpreted british
ip_Z3CL_ily-01051-00236711-00236879 amber's pictures with landscape
ip_Z3CL_ily-01052-00236880-00237158 lithography had a profound impact
ip_Z3CL_ily-01053-00237159-00237423 on another of his trainees italian
ip_Z3CL_ily-01054-00237423-00237694 artist dominiko konova
ip_Z3CL_ily-01055-00237696-00237951 born in 1800 in milan he had moved to
ip_Z3CL_ily-01056-00237952-00238127 paris before trying his luck
ip_Z3CL_ily-01057-00238128-00238479 in the united states he lithographed a
ip_Z3CL_ily-01058-00238480-00238663 variety of materials
ip_Z3CL_ily-01059-00238664-00238927 example of which you can see here
ip_Z3CL_ily-01060-00238928-00239110 pursuing the craft on his home
ip_Z3CL_ily-01061-00239111-00239375 on his own canova then disseminated the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01062-00239376-00239542 transatlantic aesthetic
ip_Z3CL_ily-01063-00239544-00239863 first encountered in amber studio in the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01064-00239864-00239998 early 1830s
ip_Z3CL_ily-01065-00240000-00240271 the artist relocated to new orleans to
ip_Z3CL_ily-01066-00240271-00240494 work as a drawing teacher
ip_Z3CL_ily-01067-00240496-00240663 the paintings and lithographs that
ip_Z3CL_ily-01068-00240664-00240879 konova completed in the city
ip_Z3CL_ily-01069-00240880-00241134 continued to enact a visual amalgamation
ip_Z3CL_ily-01070-00241135-00241319 between european art and american
ip_Z3CL_ily-01071-00241319-00241439 wilderness
ip_Z3CL_ily-01072-00241440-00241758 as in his allegory of mother louisiana
ip_Z3CL_ily-01073-00241759-00242006 reminiscent of raphael's madonnas and
ip_Z3CL_ily-01074-00242007-00242198 set among an ideolized
ip_Z3CL_ily-01075-00242200-00242598 southern vegetation more significantly
ip_Z3CL_ily-01076-00242600-00242871 canova's partnership with julion best
ip_Z3CL_ily-01077-00242871-00243094 underscores the entanglement of networks
ip_Z3CL_ily-01078-00243096-00243310 of french lithographers in the united
ip_Z3CL_ily-01079-00243311-00243463 states
ip_Z3CL_ily-01080-00243464-00243703 through his collaboration with canova
ip_Z3CL_ily-01081-00243704-00243934 leon ii contributed to expanding the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01082-00243935-00244103 transatlantic circulations
ip_Z3CL_ily-01083-00244104-00244494 of images of america born in 1806 into a
ip_Z3CL_ily-01084-00244496-00244671 jewish family of paris
ip_Z3CL_ily-01085-00244671-00244903 he took part in the salon early in his
ip_Z3CL_ily-01086-00244904-00244975 career
ip_Z3CL_ily-01087-00244976-00245223 already displaying lithographs in
ip_Z3CL_ily-01088-00245223-00245398 november 1836
ip_Z3CL_ily-01089-00245400-00245598 he sailed to new orleans and worked for
ip_Z3CL_ily-01090-00245600-00245742 the bilingual newspaper
ip_Z3CL_ily-01091-00245744-00245951 the new orleans bee or la bay de la
ip_Z3CL_ily-01092-00245952-00246103 nouvelle
ip_Z3CL_ily-01093-00246104-00246287 issued in french with sections in
ip_Z3CL_ily-01094-00246288-00246430 english
ip_Z3CL_ily-01095-00246431-00246679 soon after leon opened a lithographic
ip_Z3CL_ily-01096-00246680-00246839 shop on royal street
ip_Z3CL_ily-01097-00246840-00247046 where he also offered the gerotype
ip_Z3CL_ily-01098-00247048-00247191 services
ip_Z3CL_ily-01099-00247192-00247430 so it is unclear when leon and canova
ip_Z3CL_ily-01100-00247431-00247510 met
ip_Z3CL_ily-01101-00247511-00247710 it is certain that lyon had a particular
ip_Z3CL_ily-01102-00247711-00247919 interest in landscapes and cityscapes in
ip_Z3CL_ily-01103-00247919-00248158 the early 1840s
ip_Z3CL_ily-01104-00248159-00248423 in 1842 for example he issued a large
ip_Z3CL_ily-01105-00248423-00248551 lithograph of the old st
ip_Z3CL_ily-01106-00248552-00248871 louis cathedral of new orleans at that
ip_Z3CL_ily-01107-00248871-00248934 time
ip_Z3CL_ily-01108-00248935-00249134 leon was building a transatlantic
ip_Z3CL_ily-01109-00249135-00249423 identity and market for himself relying
ip_Z3CL_ily-01110-00249423-00249567 on his brother ashil
ip_Z3CL_ily-01111-00249567-00249846 as his business agent in france he was
ip_Z3CL_ily-01112-00249848-00249951 also engaged
ip_Z3CL_ily-01113-00249952-00250230 like canova in teaching activities
ip_Z3CL_ily-01114-00250231-00250479 another venue to showcase his views
ip_Z3CL_ily-01115-00250480-00250806 in 1848 the two men even founded an art
ip_Z3CL_ily-01116-00250807-00250927 school together
ip_Z3CL_ily-01117-00250928-00251230 furthering their bond leon would pursue
ip_Z3CL_ily-01118-00251231-00251423 his teachings until his death
ip_Z3CL_ily-01119-00251423-00251782 in january 1866
ip_Z3CL_ily-01120-00251783-00252063 such use of lithography to circulate
ip_Z3CL_ily-01121-00252064-00252263 american views was far from one
ip_Z3CL_ily-01122-00252264-00252406 direction
ip_Z3CL_ily-01123-00252407-00252615 this dimension was manifested by the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01124-00252616-00252839 existence in europe itself
ip_Z3CL_ily-01125-00252840-00253039 of initiatives similar to ambers and
ip_Z3CL_ily-01126-00253040-00253230 lyons
ip_Z3CL_ily-01127-00253231-00253527 in december 1821 for instance charlotte
ip_Z3CL_ily-01128-00253528-00253630 bonaparte
ip_Z3CL_ily-01129-00253631-00253830 needs to form a french emperor napoleon
ip_Z3CL_ily-01130-00253831-00254079 the first joined her exiled father
ip_Z3CL_ily-01131-00254080-00254142 joseph
ip_Z3CL_ily-01132-00254144-00254463 in his new jersey state of point breeze
ip_Z3CL_ily-01133-00254464-00254630 she proudly devoted her time to
ip_Z3CL_ily-01134-00254631-00254855 sketching u.s scenery
ip_Z3CL_ily-01135-00254856-00255215 as of 1882 she was invited by joseph
ip_Z3CL_ily-01136-00255216-00255310 hopkinson
ip_Z3CL_ily-01137-00255311-00255527 president of the pennsylvania academy of
ip_Z3CL_ily-01138-00255528-00255630 the fine arts
ip_Z3CL_ily-01139-00255631-00255775 to display her works at the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01140-00255776-00255998 institution's annual shows
ip_Z3CL_ily-01141-00256000-00256230 there she would cross paths with a young
ip_Z3CL_ily-01142-00256231-00256319 thomas cole
ip_Z3CL_ily-01143-00256319-00256646 who had just relocated to philadelphia
ip_Z3CL_ily-01144-00256648-00256887 through her father bonaparte also got
ip_Z3CL_ily-01145-00256888-00257110 acquainted with artist charles lawrence
ip_Z3CL_ily-01146-00257111-00257430 and with bass otis who had been hired by
ip_Z3CL_ily-01147-00257431-00257542 joseph bonaparte
ip_Z3CL_ily-01148-00257544-00257703 to paint a portrait of his american
ip_Z3CL_ily-01149-00257704-00257998 mistress annette savage
ip_Z3CL_ily-01150-00258000-00258255 repeated contacts with otis introduced
ip_Z3CL_ily-01151-00258256-00258406 the young charlotte to the technique of
ip_Z3CL_ily-01152-00258407-00258534 lithography
ip_Z3CL_ily-01153-00258535-00258727 which is selected upon her return to
ip_Z3CL_ily-01154-00258728-00258903 europe in 1824
ip_Z3CL_ily-01155-00258904-00259191 to publish some of her american views
ip_Z3CL_ily-01156-00259192-00259246 titled
ip_Z3CL_ily-01157-00259248-00259487 vupitoresco de la merica for picturesque
ip_Z3CL_ily-01158-00259488-00259623 views of america
ip_Z3CL_ily-01159-00259623-00259846 the portfolio was lithographed by artist
ip_Z3CL_ily-01160-00259848-00260119 master nanjobar in brussels
ip_Z3CL_ily-01161-00260119-00260367 it helped popularize printed views of
ip_Z3CL_ily-01162-00260367-00260510 american landscapes
ip_Z3CL_ily-01163-00260511-00260694 among french-speaking audiences in
ip_Z3CL_ily-01164-00260696-00260927 europe just as it testified
ip_Z3CL_ily-01165-00260928-00261134 charlotte bonaparte's involvement with
ip_Z3CL_ily-01166-00261135-00261287 transatlantic networks
ip_Z3CL_ily-01167-00261288-00261623 of bonaparte
ip_Z3CL_ily-01168-00261623-00261815 also steered clear of the contemporary
ip_Z3CL_ily-01169-00261816-00262039 debates over landscape and national
ip_Z3CL_ily-01170-00262040-00262215 identity in the us
ip_Z3CL_ily-01171-00262216-00262447 at a time an american approach to
ip_Z3CL_ily-01172-00262448-00262623 landscape was taking shape
ip_Z3CL_ily-01173-00262624-00262927 through people like thomas cole
ip_Z3CL_ily-01174-00262928-00263143 her papers indicate that she fashioned
ip_Z3CL_ily-01175-00263144-00263423 herself as a transatlantic landscapist
ip_Z3CL_ily-01176-00263424-00263663 with no artistic teacher while in
ip_Z3CL_ily-01177-00263664-00263991 america
ip_Z3CL_ily-01178-00263992-00264271 in conclusion ventures such as ambest
ip_Z3CL_ily-01179-00264272-00264447 studios in new york city
ip_Z3CL_ily-01180-00264448-00264703 offered european lithographers an avenue
ip_Z3CL_ily-01181-00264704-00264903 to showcase both their mastery of the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01182-00264904-00265023 technique
ip_Z3CL_ily-01183-00265024-00265230 and the advantages of the latter for the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01184-00265231-00265558 mass circulation of images in america
ip_Z3CL_ily-01185-00265559-00265847 as i have argued amber relied on several
ip_Z3CL_ily-01186-00265848-00266063 european-born and trained artists
ip_Z3CL_ily-01187-00266064-00266303 especially french ones to make sure
ip_Z3CL_ily-01188-00266304-00266447 lithography could address
ip_Z3CL_ily-01189-00266448-00266671 aesthetic discourses about landscapes in
ip_Z3CL_ily-01190-00266672-00266863 the early republic
ip_Z3CL_ily-01191-00266864-00267063 the resulting visual objects were
ip_Z3CL_ily-01192-00267064-00267367 portable and quickly reproducible
ip_Z3CL_ily-01193-00267368-00267558 they became aesthetic and material
ip_Z3CL_ily-01194-00267559-00267799 supports to several individuals
ip_Z3CL_ily-01195-00267800-00268030 involved in the transatlantic exchange
ip_Z3CL_ily-01196-00268031-00268223 of u.s landscape views
ip_Z3CL_ily-01197-00268224-00268479 who gradually constituted an active
ip_Z3CL_ily-01198-00268480-00268671 constellation of art makers
ip_Z3CL_ily-01199-00268672-00268887 from new york and philadelphia to
ip_Z3CL_ily-01200-00268888-00269143 louisiana and western europe
ip_Z3CL_ily-01201-00269144-00269487 the trajectories of ampere nova lyon
ip_Z3CL_ily-01202-00269488-00269703 and charlotte bonaparte has paved the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01203-00269704-00269958 way for a more transnational history
ip_Z3CL_ily-01204-00269959-00270199 of 19th century lithography in the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01205-00270200-00270375 united states
ip_Z3CL_ily-01206-00270376-00271230 thank you
ip_Z3CL_ily-01207-00271231-00271623 thomas thank you well done our next talk
ip_Z3CL_ily-01208-00271624-00271687 is
ip_Z3CL_ily-01209-00271688-00271991 by brittany bailey from
ip_Z3CL_ily-01210-00271992-00272230 rutgers university and it is my pleasure
ip_Z3CL_ily-01211-00272231-00272391 to welcome
ip_Z3CL_ily-01212-00272392-00272679 professor susan sidlauskas she's
ip_Z3CL_ily-01213-00272680-00272863 professor and chair of art history at
ip_Z3CL_ily-01214-00272864-00272958 rutgers
ip_Z3CL_ily-01215-00272959-00274063 to introduce brittany
ip_Z3CL_ily-01216-00274064-00274343 hello my name is susan solaskis and i
ip_Z3CL_ily-01217-00274344-00274495 would like to introduce you to
ip_Z3CL_ily-01218-00274496-00274830 my phd student brittany bailey brittany
ip_Z3CL_ily-01219-00274831-00274903 came to us
ip_Z3CL_ily-01220-00274904-00275182 after earning her master's at american
ip_Z3CL_ily-01221-00275183-00275263 university
ip_Z3CL_ily-01222-00275264-00275623 in washington dc and she is currently at
ip_Z3CL_ily-01223-00275624-00275695 work
ip_Z3CL_ily-01224-00275696-00275958 on a very rich dissertation on what
ip_Z3CL_ily-01225-00275959-00276095 she's calling the queer
ip_Z3CL_ily-01226-00276096-00276447 utopia she has worked on this
ip_Z3CL_ily-01227-00276448-00276758 for the past say one to two years
ip_Z3CL_ily-01228-00276759-00276951 while she's been juggling many things
ip_Z3CL_ily-01229-00276952-00277134 including teaching in the department
ip_Z3CL_ily-01230-00277135-00277423 and supervising senior thesis students
ip_Z3CL_ily-01231-00277424-00277519 no small task
ip_Z3CL_ily-01232-00277520-00277823 which was very successful she also
ip_Z3CL_ily-01233-00277824-00278119 relocated once back to oregon with her
ip_Z3CL_ily-01234-00278120-00278263 husband so they could be with their
ip_Z3CL_ily-01235-00278264-00278391 families
ip_Z3CL_ily-01236-00278392-00278639 as soon as the pandemic was coming upon
ip_Z3CL_ily-01237-00278640-00278799 us but she did not reckon
ip_Z3CL_ily-01238-00278800-00279063 with the oregon wildfires which
ip_Z3CL_ily-01239-00279064-00279327 necessitated a second relocation
ip_Z3CL_ily-01240-00279328-00279663 to idaho where she continued to work
ip_Z3CL_ily-01241-00279664-00279982 uh she has never flagged in her progress
ip_Z3CL_ily-01242-00279983-00280310 so today you will be hearing
ip_Z3CL_ily-01243-00280311-00280503 a piece of one of her chapters on the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01244-00280504-00280630 queer utopia
ip_Z3CL_ily-01245-00280631-00280879 which brings together two characters
ip_Z3CL_ily-01246-00280880-00280967 whom you will
ip_Z3CL_ily-01247-00280968-00281247 rarely see sharing the same stage so to
ip_Z3CL_ily-01248-00281248-00281334 speak
ip_Z3CL_ily-01249-00281335-00281558 and that is the french 19th century
ip_Z3CL_ily-01250-00281559-00281767 painter jose bonner
ip_Z3CL_ily-01251-00281768-00282087 and the american celebrity
ip_Z3CL_ily-01252-00282088-00282447 performer wild bill cody
ip_Z3CL_ily-01253-00282448-00282727 so i introduce you to brittany bailey
ip_Z3CL_ily-01254-00282728-00283247 thank you
ip_Z3CL_ily-01255-00283248-00283534 hello thank you to the barnes foundation
ip_Z3CL_ily-01256-00283535-00283630 for this event
ip_Z3CL_ily-01257-00283631-00283871 to martha for moderating today's panel
ip_Z3CL_ily-01258-00283872-00283934 and for
ip_Z3CL_ily-01259-00283935-00284079 uh to susan for that generous
ip_Z3CL_ily-01260-00284080-00284303 introduction
ip_Z3CL_ily-01261-00284304-00284619 all right um the exposition universal of
ip_Z3CL_ily-01262-00284620-00284751 1889
ip_Z3CL_ily-01263-00284752-00284991 was the site of a fascinating but little
ip_Z3CL_ily-01264-00284992-00285063 explored
ip_Z3CL_ily-01265-00285064-00285287 exchange between two fender sequence
ip_Z3CL_ily-01266-00285288-00285399 celebrities
ip_Z3CL_ily-01267-00285400-00285647 the internationally recognized animalia
ip_Z3CL_ily-01268-00285648-00285775 rosa bonor
ip_Z3CL_ily-01269-00285776-00285991 and the frontiersmen turned showman
ip_Z3CL_ily-01270-00285992-00286151 colonel william f cody
ip_Z3CL_ily-01271-00286152-00286415 better known as buffalo bill they are
ip_Z3CL_ily-01272-00286416-00286519 shown together here
ip_Z3CL_ily-01273-00286520-00286767 outside of the wild west show's main
ip_Z3CL_ily-01274-00286768-00286839 tent
ip_Z3CL_ily-01275-00286840-00287110 along with other members of the company
ip_Z3CL_ily-01276-00287111-00287199 initiated by
ip_Z3CL_ily-01277-00287200-00287399 her self-proclaimed fascination with the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01278-00287400-00287519 american west
ip_Z3CL_ily-01279-00287520-00287743 lenore spent several weeks with the show
ip_Z3CL_ily-01280-00287744-00287934 during its tenure at newly on the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01281-00287935-00288143 outskirts of paris
ip_Z3CL_ily-01282-00288144-00288406 while the approximately 17 paintings and
ip_Z3CL_ily-01283-00288407-00288567 sketches that she based on this
ip_Z3CL_ily-01284-00288568-00288679 encounter remain
ip_Z3CL_ily-01285-00288680-00288982 largely unstudied likely the best known
ip_Z3CL_ily-01286-00288983-00289158 and most widely reproduced
ip_Z3CL_ily-01287-00289159-00289479 was a portrait of cody himself
ip_Z3CL_ily-01288-00289480-00289687 his biographers agree that cody was a
ip_Z3CL_ily-01289-00289688-00289887 master showman and self-promoter
ip_Z3CL_ily-01290-00289888-00290087 and as a record of his proximity to
ip_Z3CL_ily-01291-00290088-00290239 bonor's own fame
ip_Z3CL_ily-01292-00290240-00290439 which was considerable by this late
ip_Z3CL_ily-01293-00290440-00290558 point in her career
ip_Z3CL_ily-01294-00290559-00290727 the painting was a feather in his
ip_Z3CL_ily-01295-00290728-00290919 wide-brimmed cap
ip_Z3CL_ily-01296-00290920-00291110 he displayed it prominently in his home
ip_Z3CL_ily-01297-00291111-00291295 in wyoming and it was reproduced
ip_Z3CL_ily-01298-00291296-00291527 repeatedly in promotional ephemera for
ip_Z3CL_ily-01299-00291528-00291654 the wild west show
ip_Z3CL_ily-01300-00291655-00291943 and congress of rough riders although
ip_Z3CL_ily-01301-00291944-00292030 the privileged
ip_Z3CL_ily-01302-00292031-00292263 status of this painting might imply a
ip_Z3CL_ily-01303-00292264-00292479 straightforward aggrandizement of her
ip_Z3CL_ily-01304-00292480-00292575 subject
ip_Z3CL_ily-01305-00292576-00292799 close study reveals that white banorse
ip_Z3CL_ily-01306-00292800-00292999 that bannor subverted the traditionally
ip_Z3CL_ily-01307-00293000-00293263 heroic genre of the equestrian portrait
ip_Z3CL_ily-01308-00293264-00293543 in several ways seated on the back of a
ip_Z3CL_ily-01309-00293544-00293623 white horse
ip_Z3CL_ily-01310-00293624-00293879 the painted buffalo bill cody is on full
ip_Z3CL_ily-01311-00293880-00294103 display for the viewer in his iconic
ip_Z3CL_ily-01312-00294104-00294367 buckskin suit and positioned close to
ip_Z3CL_ily-01313-00294368-00294519 the picture plane
ip_Z3CL_ily-01314-00294520-00294751 however there's little for us to glean
ip_Z3CL_ily-01315-00294752-00294975 from a study of his countenance
ip_Z3CL_ily-01316-00294976-00295206 his face is turned away in an almost
ip_Z3CL_ily-01317-00295207-00295327 full profile
ip_Z3CL_ily-01318-00295328-00295534 and his eyes are hooded and cast into
ip_Z3CL_ily-01319-00295535-00295663 shadow
ip_Z3CL_ily-01320-00295664-00295863 while bonor carefully attended to the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01321-00295864-00296095 physionomic details of his prominent
ip_Z3CL_ily-01322-00296096-00296158 nose
ip_Z3CL_ily-01323-00296159-00296367 the curl of his mustache and the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01324-00296368-00296647 distinctive curve of his one visible ear
ip_Z3CL_ily-01325-00296648-00296887 the pose is one of withholding and we
ip_Z3CL_ily-01326-00296888-00297119 are left to wonder precisely what it is
ip_Z3CL_ily-01327-00297120-00297191 that bonor
ip_Z3CL_ily-01328-00297192-00297439 endeavored to document in this reticent
ip_Z3CL_ily-01329-00297440-00297599 portrait
ip_Z3CL_ily-01330-00297600-00297815 as i will argue today banora's portrait
ip_Z3CL_ily-01331-00297816-00298063 of kodi records a dynamic exchange
ip_Z3CL_ily-01332-00298064-00298247 between painter and performer
ip_Z3CL_ily-01333-00298248-00298479 charged by their mutual engagement with
ip_Z3CL_ily-01334-00298480-00298687 constructions of late 19th century
ip_Z3CL_ily-01335-00298688-00298799 masculinity
ip_Z3CL_ily-01336-00298800-00299054 and in particular a masculine ideal
ip_Z3CL_ily-01337-00299055-00299134 ideal
ip_Z3CL_ily-01338-00299135-00299479 located beyond the borders of modernity
ip_Z3CL_ily-01339-00299480-00299639 in the two decades prior to their
ip_Z3CL_ily-01340-00299640-00299799 meeting cody developed
ip_Z3CL_ily-01341-00299800-00300095 his buffalo bill persona into a larger
ip_Z3CL_ily-01342-00300096-00300310 than life character which was
ip_Z3CL_ily-01343-00300311-00300582 and continues to be synonymous with what
ip_Z3CL_ily-01344-00300583-00300767 monica rico has termed
ip_Z3CL_ily-01345-00300768-00301119 frontier masculinity for her part
ip_Z3CL_ily-01346-00301120-00301351 manure's life was also shaped by her
ip_Z3CL_ily-01347-00301352-00301606 relationship to masculine signifiers
ip_Z3CL_ily-01348-00301607-00301830 her masculine presenting identity was
ip_Z3CL_ily-01349-00301831-00302023 famously documented in her official
ip_Z3CL_ily-01350-00302024-00302182 license from the french government to
ip_Z3CL_ily-01351-00302183-00302327 wear pants
ip_Z3CL_ily-01352-00302328-00302551 while efforts to divine a relationship
ip_Z3CL_ily-01353-00302552-00302727 between her painting practice and her
ip_Z3CL_ily-01354-00302728-00302943 gender identity have tended to focus
ip_Z3CL_ily-01355-00302944-00303134 exclusively on her same-sex
ip_Z3CL_ily-01356-00303135-00303279 relationships
ip_Z3CL_ily-01357-00303280-00303479 when she did turn to the human figure
ip_Z3CL_ily-01358-00303480-00303591 that figure was almost
ip_Z3CL_ily-01359-00303592-00303854 exclusively male this has led to the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01360-00303855-00304063 continued assumption that her work bears
ip_Z3CL_ily-01361-00304064-00304230 little relationship to her gender
ip_Z3CL_ily-01362-00304231-00304415 identity
ip_Z3CL_ily-01363-00304416-00304654 to date the withdrawn character of the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01364-00304655-00304854 cody portrait has been primarily
ip_Z3CL_ily-01365-00304855-00305054 interpreted as evidence of bonor's
ip_Z3CL_ily-01366-00305055-00305343 supposed disinterest in the human figure
ip_Z3CL_ily-01367-00305344-00305567 albert boehm describes it as quote a
ip_Z3CL_ily-01368-00305568-00305767 striking instance of her indifference to
ip_Z3CL_ily-01369-00305768-00306030 the humans in her pictures end quote
ip_Z3CL_ily-01370-00306031-00306247 he attributed this to the acute sense of
ip_Z3CL_ily-01371-00306248-00306447 alienation bonor would have felt because
ip_Z3CL_ily-01372-00306448-00306687 of her proto-lesbian identity
ip_Z3CL_ily-01373-00306688-00306879 according to boeim this led her to
ip_Z3CL_ily-01374-00306880-00307134 retreat from the human figure entirely
ip_Z3CL_ily-01375-00307135-00307406 however given as a gift in gratitude for
ip_Z3CL_ily-01376-00307407-00307519 the unrestricted
ip_Z3CL_ily-01377-00307520-00307734 access that his management team gave to
ip_Z3CL_ily-01378-00307735-00307958 bonor during her time in the wild west
ip_Z3CL_ily-01379-00307959-00308039 camp
ip_Z3CL_ily-01380-00308040-00308271 it seems likely that the painting offers
ip_Z3CL_ily-01381-00308272-00308471 more than indifference
ip_Z3CL_ily-01382-00308472-00308687 rather i would argue that in her
ip_Z3CL_ily-01383-00308688-00308919 portrait colonel william f cody
ip_Z3CL_ily-01384-00308920-00309127 lenore strategically deploys an
ip_Z3CL_ily-01385-00309128-00309343 aesthetic of obfuscation
ip_Z3CL_ily-01386-00309344-00309543 to visually rupture the presumed
ip_Z3CL_ily-01387-00309544-00309719 attachment between the male body and
ip_Z3CL_ily-01388-00309720-00309823 masculinity
ip_Z3CL_ily-01389-00309824-00310039 of which she was acutely aware thanks to
ip_Z3CL_ily-01390-00310040-00310151 her own distinctly
ip_Z3CL_ily-01391-00310152-00310439 female relationship to the masculine in
ip_Z3CL_ily-01392-00310440-00310575 my presentation today
ip_Z3CL_ily-01393-00310576-00310758 i will endeavor to demonstrate that
ip_Z3CL_ily-01394-00310759-00310910 through her handling of paint
ip_Z3CL_ily-01395-00310911-00311087 the pose of the figure and the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01396-00311088-00311247 composition of the portrait
ip_Z3CL_ily-01397-00311248-00311503 bonus simultaneously exploits and
ip_Z3CL_ily-01398-00311504-00311687 subverts the equestrian tradition
ip_Z3CL_ily-01399-00311688-00311895 in an effort to record not only the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01400-00311896-00312175 performed masculinity of buffalo bill
ip_Z3CL_ily-01401-00312176-00312358 but something of the humanity of william
ip_Z3CL_ily-01402-00312359-00312663 f cody as well
ip_Z3CL_ily-01403-00312664-00312895 although the details of his biography
ip_Z3CL_ily-01404-00312896-00313079 have become muddled with the heroic
ip_Z3CL_ily-01405-00313080-00313303 deeds to which cody woodley claim
ip_Z3CL_ily-01406-00313304-00313510 his early life was predominantly marked
ip_Z3CL_ily-01407-00313511-00313775 by financial instability itinerant labor
ip_Z3CL_ily-01408-00313776-00314006 petty crime and a brief stint with the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01409-00314007-00314271 seventh kansas volunteer cavalry
ip_Z3CL_ily-01410-00314272-00314487 before he became buffalo bill of the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01411-00314488-00314751 stage he gained notoriety as a popular
ip_Z3CL_ily-01412-00314752-00314903 icon of the west
ip_Z3CL_ily-01413-00314904-00315047 through the serial novels of ned
ip_Z3CL_ily-01414-00315048-00315254 buntlein beginning with the publication
ip_Z3CL_ily-01415-00315255-00315375 of buffalo bill
ip_Z3CL_ily-01416-00315376-00315703 king of the border men in 1869.
ip_Z3CL_ily-01417-00315704-00315967 by the early 1870s cody began to
ip_Z3CL_ily-01418-00315968-00316158 transition to a life on stage
ip_Z3CL_ily-01419-00316159-00316430 and in 1883 along with his theatrical
ip_Z3CL_ily-01420-00316431-00316687 manager nate salisbury he organized
ip_Z3CL_ily-01421-00316688-00316999 buffalo bills wild west show which they
ip_Z3CL_ily-01422-00317000-00317182 conceived as a touring spectacle
ip_Z3CL_ily-01423-00317183-00317358 designed to compete with popular
ip_Z3CL_ily-01424-00317359-00317430 circuses
ip_Z3CL_ily-01425-00317431-00317775 of the period in developing his buffalo
ip_Z3CL_ily-01426-00317776-00317879 bill persona
ip_Z3CL_ily-01427-00317880-00318158 cody strategically deployed existing yet
ip_Z3CL_ily-01428-00318159-00318391 oppositional ideologies of american
ip_Z3CL_ily-01429-00318392-00318503 masculinity
ip_Z3CL_ily-01430-00318504-00318710 combining signifiers of new world
ip_Z3CL_ily-01431-00318711-00318806 primitivism
ip_Z3CL_ily-01432-00318807-00319134 with those of old world chivalry
ip_Z3CL_ily-01433-00319135-00319447 for his audiences this offered a stable
ip_Z3CL_ily-01434-00319448-00319647 legible alternative to the perceived
ip_Z3CL_ily-01435-00319648-00319751 emasculation
ip_Z3CL_ily-01436-00319752-00320151 of modern society historians r w
ip_Z3CL_ily-01437-00320152-00320375 connell and michael kimmel have observed
ip_Z3CL_ily-01438-00320376-00320551 that as america developed and
ip_Z3CL_ily-01439-00320552-00320782 urbanized middle class working men were
ip_Z3CL_ily-01440-00320783-00321006 compelled to relinquish the control of
ip_Z3CL_ily-01441-00321007-00321191 their labor to factory owners and
ip_Z3CL_ily-01442-00321192-00321327 managers
ip_Z3CL_ily-01443-00321328-00321527 to fulfill the prescribed role of
ip_Z3CL_ily-01444-00321528-00321679 provider and patriarch
ip_Z3CL_ily-01445-00321680-00321895 men were bound to the spaces of the city
ip_Z3CL_ily-01446-00321896-00321991 and the factory
ip_Z3CL_ily-01447-00321992-00322167 and were thus trapped close to the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01448-00322168-00322503 feminized sphere of the home
ip_Z3CL_ily-01449-00322504-00322751 in response to these anxieties cody
ip_Z3CL_ily-01450-00322752-00322951 rooted his theatrical persona
ip_Z3CL_ily-01451-00322952-00323175 in opposition to the urban domesticated
ip_Z3CL_ily-01452-00323176-00323415 male through a visual association with
ip_Z3CL_ily-01453-00323416-00323623 the dual primitivisms of the american
ip_Z3CL_ily-01454-00323624-00323695 frontier
ip_Z3CL_ily-01455-00323696-00324071 and the european past a circa 1895
ip_Z3CL_ily-01456-00324072-00324271 promotional photograph that features
ip_Z3CL_ily-01457-00324272-00324447 buffalo bill at the height of his
ip_Z3CL_ily-01458-00324448-00324575 notoriety
ip_Z3CL_ily-01459-00324576-00324830 illustrates his savvy use of costume and
ip_Z3CL_ily-01460-00324831-00325047 pose to locate his masculinity
ip_Z3CL_ily-01461-00325048-00325319 beyond the limits of the industrialized
ip_Z3CL_ily-01462-00325320-00325454 city
ip_Z3CL_ily-01463-00325455-00325687 in one of several embellished buckskin
ip_Z3CL_ily-01464-00325688-00325895 suits that he sported over the years
ip_Z3CL_ily-01465-00325896-00326182 cody stands tall hands resting jauntily
ip_Z3CL_ily-01466-00326183-00326391 near his hips at the top of his massive
ip_Z3CL_ily-01467-00326392-00326495 belt
ip_Z3CL_ily-01468-00326496-00326687 the panels of the vest separate like
ip_Z3CL_ily-01469-00326688-00326910 lavish curtains revealing an oversized
ip_Z3CL_ily-01470-00326911-00327110 buckle and a horseshoe pendant at his
ip_Z3CL_ily-01471-00327111-00327254 waist
ip_Z3CL_ily-01472-00327255-00327487 although conspicuously covered in fabric
ip_Z3CL_ily-01473-00327488-00327671 a typical distinction between the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01474-00327672-00327854 civilized westerner and the naked
ip_Z3CL_ily-01475-00327855-00328143 exposed savage the buckskin that adorns
ip_Z3CL_ily-01476-00328144-00328230 his body
ip_Z3CL_ily-01477-00328231-00328430 speaks to a direct encounter with the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01478-00328431-00328663 indigenous american
ip_Z3CL_ily-01479-00328664-00328910 his characteristic westward gaze also
ip_Z3CL_ily-01480-00328911-00328991 positions
ip_Z3CL_ily-01481-00328992-00329182 buffalo bill on the precipice of
ip_Z3CL_ily-01482-00329183-00329334 civilization
ip_Z3CL_ily-01483-00329335-00329551 the upward glance and slightly lifted
ip_Z3CL_ily-01484-00329552-00329654 chin suggest
ip_Z3CL_ily-01485-00329655-00329895 that he sees before him an expansive
ip_Z3CL_ily-01486-00329896-00330087 western horizon
ip_Z3CL_ily-01487-00330088-00330334 images of cody consistently feature this
ip_Z3CL_ily-01488-00330335-00330399 staunch
ip_Z3CL_ily-01489-00330400-00330654 outward gaze which implies control and
ip_Z3CL_ily-01490-00330655-00330919 dominance over a wild frontier
ip_Z3CL_ily-01491-00330920-00331063 like the many other promotional
ip_Z3CL_ily-01492-00331064-00331271 photographs of this period
ip_Z3CL_ily-01493-00331272-00331503 the image shows us much of the character
ip_Z3CL_ily-01494-00331504-00331727 buffalo bill and very little of william
ip_Z3CL_ily-01495-00331728-00331958 f cody
ip_Z3CL_ily-01496-00331959-00332191 in her painted portrait fenner notably
ip_Z3CL_ily-01497-00332192-00332399 alters the direction of cody's gaze even
ip_Z3CL_ily-01498-00332400-00332630 as she dutifully records the details of
ip_Z3CL_ily-01499-00332631-00332854 his iconic ensemble
ip_Z3CL_ily-01500-00332855-00333110 turned to the side her buffalo bill no
ip_Z3CL_ily-01501-00333111-00333295 longer communicates control
ip_Z3CL_ily-01502-00333296-00333558 but rather introspection through the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01503-00333559-00333751 simple gesture of a turned head
ip_Z3CL_ily-01504-00333752-00334039 bonora's portrait begins to unravel the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01505-00334040-00334199 tenuous ties that bind
ip_Z3CL_ily-01506-00334200-00334439 cody's masculine persona to his male
ip_Z3CL_ily-01507-00334440-00334719 body
ip_Z3CL_ily-01508-00334720-00334943 cody's status as a skilled horseman was
ip_Z3CL_ily-01509-00334944-00335127 also key to his anti-modernist
ip_Z3CL_ily-01510-00335128-00335239 masculinity
ip_Z3CL_ily-01511-00335240-00335519 promotional posters like the scout
ip_Z3CL_ily-01512-00335520-00335791 buffalo bill from 1863
ip_Z3CL_ily-01513-00335792-00335999 the mounted warriors of all nations from
ip_Z3CL_ily-01514-00336000-00336127 1902
ip_Z3CL_ily-01515-00336128-00336439 and colonel w f cody from 1907
ip_Z3CL_ily-01516-00336440-00336647 frequently positioned buffalo bill as
ip_Z3CL_ily-01517-00336648-00336758 both primitive and
ip_Z3CL_ily-01518-00336759-00336958 pre-industrial through an association
ip_Z3CL_ily-01519-00336959-00337247 with the equestrian tradition
ip_Z3CL_ily-01520-00337248-00337487 rico has observed that for his audiences
ip_Z3CL_ily-01521-00337488-00337710 especially those in london and paris
ip_Z3CL_ily-01522-00337711-00337975 quote on horseback cody seemed a
ip_Z3CL_ily-01523-00337976-00338215 throwback to an earlier cheval rick age
ip_Z3CL_ily-01524-00338216-00338430 when men rode beautiful stallions rather
ip_Z3CL_ily-01525-00338431-00338654 than taking buses and trains to offices
ip_Z3CL_ily-01526-00338655-00338871 and factories end quote
ip_Z3CL_ily-01527-00338872-00339063 lenore was well aware of the power of
ip_Z3CL_ily-01528-00339064-00339310 this key element of his persona
ip_Z3CL_ily-01529-00339311-00339567 the equestrian format of her portrait
ip_Z3CL_ily-01530-00339568-00339751 strategically places cody
ip_Z3CL_ily-01531-00339752-00339991 in dialogue with a long tradition of
ip_Z3CL_ily-01532-00339992-00340063 virile
ip_Z3CL_ily-01533-00340064-00340303 military men on horses such as
ip_Z3CL_ily-01534-00340304-00340519 jacqueline davids napoleon crossing the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01535-00340520-00340615 alps
ip_Z3CL_ily-01536-00340616-00340782 who are always in control of their
ip_Z3CL_ily-01537-00340783-00340982 surroundings however
ip_Z3CL_ily-01538-00340983-00341239 with the same gesture she also visually
ip_Z3CL_ily-01539-00341240-00341463 challenges the stability of his status
ip_Z3CL_ily-01540-00341464-00341671 as yet another hyper-masculine
ip_Z3CL_ily-01541-00341672-00342078 martial leader cody's form commands our
ip_Z3CL_ily-01542-00342079-00342134 attention
ip_Z3CL_ily-01543-00342135-00342423 less than we might expect when compared
ip_Z3CL_ily-01544-00342424-00342591 with a photograph taken of the rough
ip_Z3CL_ily-01545-00342592-00342839 rider during the 1889 tour
ip_Z3CL_ily-01546-00342840-00343103 lenoir's cody appears markedly smaller
ip_Z3CL_ily-01547-00343104-00343271 and less physically commanding
ip_Z3CL_ily-01548-00343272-00343471 than he was when he actually sat in the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01549-00343472-00343582 saddle
ip_Z3CL_ily-01550-00343583-00343791 what's more rather than an expansive
ip_Z3CL_ily-01551-00343792-00343991 prairie or an alpine crossing
ip_Z3CL_ily-01552-00343992-00344182 both cody and his horse are physically
ip_Z3CL_ily-01553-00344183-00344399 contained and framed by the painted line
ip_Z3CL_ily-01554-00344400-00344558 of trees
ip_Z3CL_ily-01555-00344559-00344751 these strategic choices to subvert
ip_Z3CL_ily-01556-00344752-00344958 tradition the turning of the head
ip_Z3CL_ily-01557-00344959-00345143 the adjustments in the proportions of
ip_Z3CL_ily-01558-00345144-00345358 man and horse and the choice to place
ip_Z3CL_ily-01559-00345359-00345623 her subject in a domesticated space
ip_Z3CL_ily-01560-00345624-00345815 call the authenticity of cody's
ip_Z3CL_ily-01561-00345816-00346095 masculine performance into question
ip_Z3CL_ily-01562-00346096-00346310 as we shall see fenner's painterly
ip_Z3CL_ily-01563-00346311-00346447 interest in the romantic
ip_Z3CL_ily-01564-00346448-00346663 masculine ideal made her uniquely
ip_Z3CL_ily-01565-00346664-00346854 equipped to document both cody's
ip_Z3CL_ily-01566-00346855-00347039 performance of that ideal
ip_Z3CL_ily-01567-00347040-00347254 and the unidealized humanity of the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01568-00347255-00347599 performer as well
ip_Z3CL_ily-01569-00347600-00347791 like her contemporary george sonde
ip_Z3CL_ily-01570-00347792-00348015 rozabanor is frequently celebrated as a
ip_Z3CL_ily-01571-00348016-00348271 paragon of proto-feminist resistance
ip_Z3CL_ily-01572-00348272-00348503 to the deeply gendered social structures
ip_Z3CL_ily-01573-00348504-00348623 of her day
ip_Z3CL_ily-01574-00348624-00348806 and like sonde her masculine
ip_Z3CL_ily-01575-00348807-00349023 presentation attracted considerable
ip_Z3CL_ily-01576-00349024-00349143 attention
ip_Z3CL_ily-01577-00349144-00349358 adrian marks an american journalist who
ip_Z3CL_ily-01578-00349359-00349558 visited bonor's chateau at bai
ip_Z3CL_ily-01579-00349559-00349895 in 1866 devoted considerable space in
ip_Z3CL_ily-01580-00349896-00350071 his subsequent art article
ip_Z3CL_ily-01581-00350072-00350310 to recount how he initially mistook her
ip_Z3CL_ily-01582-00350311-00350510 for an elderly man
ip_Z3CL_ily-01583-00350511-00350727 in spite of this critics and scholars
ip_Z3CL_ily-01584-00350728-00350934 alike have struggled to reconcile the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01585-00350935-00350991 more
ip_Z3CL_ily-01586-00350992-00351206 radical aspects of her identity with
ip_Z3CL_ily-01587-00351207-00351375 what has been characterized as a
ip_Z3CL_ily-01588-00351376-00351630 conservative painterly practice
ip_Z3CL_ily-01589-00351631-00351830 while mining haru for hidden themes of
ip_Z3CL_ily-01590-00351831-00352063 sapphism is doomed to disappoint
ip_Z3CL_ily-01591-00352064-00352287 distinguishing her female masculinity
ip_Z3CL_ily-01592-00352288-00352423 from her sexuality
ip_Z3CL_ily-01593-00352424-00352734 opens up new avenues for inquiry the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01594-00352735-00352815 queer theorist
ip_Z3CL_ily-01595-00352816-00352991 jack halperstam has observed that
ip_Z3CL_ily-01596-00352992-00353182 frequently critical analysis of
ip_Z3CL_ily-01597-00353183-00353382 masculinity is limited either to the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01598-00353383-00353558 biologically male body
ip_Z3CL_ily-01599-00353559-00353887 or exclusively to lesbianism instead
ip_Z3CL_ily-01600-00353888-00354134 halberstem argues that quote far from
ip_Z3CL_ily-01601-00354135-00354351 being an imitation of maleness
ip_Z3CL_ily-01602-00354352-00354599 female masculinity affords us a glimpse
ip_Z3CL_ily-01603-00354600-00354847 of how masculinity is constructed
ip_Z3CL_ily-01604-00354848-00355158 as masculinity we understand
ip_Z3CL_ily-01605-00355159-00355334 as what we understand as heroic
ip_Z3CL_ily-01606-00355335-00355534 masculinity has been produced
ip_Z3CL_ily-01607-00355535-00355823 by and across both male and female
ip_Z3CL_ily-01608-00355824-00356030 bodies end quote
ip_Z3CL_ily-01609-00356031-00356239 in this context bonora's portrait of
ip_Z3CL_ily-01610-00356240-00356454 cody becomes more than a simple record
ip_Z3CL_ily-01611-00356455-00356678 of a celebrity encounter
ip_Z3CL_ily-01612-00356679-00356951 the impact of bonor's female masculinity
ip_Z3CL_ily-01613-00356952-00357151 is brought to bear on the totalizing
ip_Z3CL_ily-01614-00357152-00357430 masculinity which cody sought to embody
ip_Z3CL_ily-01615-00357431-00357719 in his role of buffalo bill the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01616-00357720-00357919 significance of this exchange becomes
ip_Z3CL_ily-01617-00357920-00358134 all the more salient when read against
ip_Z3CL_ily-01618-00358135-00358278 the masculine types
ip_Z3CL_ily-01619-00358279-00358478 to which bonora repeatedly turned
ip_Z3CL_ily-01620-00358479-00358727 throughout her career
ip_Z3CL_ily-01621-00358728-00358903 it is certainly true that the majority
ip_Z3CL_ily-01622-00358904-00359063 of banora's painting practice was
ip_Z3CL_ily-01623-00359064-00359295 dedicated to the depiction of animals
ip_Z3CL_ily-01624-00359296-00359543 however a review of heroes reveals that
ip_Z3CL_ily-01625-00359544-00359751 she also produced a significant number
ip_Z3CL_ily-01626-00359752-00359823 of works
ip_Z3CL_ily-01627-00359824-00360134 featuring heroic male figures which like
ip_Z3CL_ily-01628-00360135-00360295 cody's buffalo bill
ip_Z3CL_ily-01629-00360296-00360534 occupied spaces beyond the confines of
ip_Z3CL_ily-01630-00360535-00360703 modernity
ip_Z3CL_ily-01631-00360704-00360919 while her impressionist contemporaries
ip_Z3CL_ily-01632-00360920-00361127 trained their gaze on the urban flanneur
ip_Z3CL_ily-01633-00361128-00361358 featured in works like eduardo place de
ip_Z3CL_ily-01634-00361359-00361591 la concorde of 1875
ip_Z3CL_ily-01635-00361592-00361863 and the industrial and industrial labor
ip_Z3CL_ily-01636-00361864-00362087 in the paintings such as gustav kaibat's
ip_Z3CL_ily-01637-00362088-00362358 floor scrapers from the same year lenore
ip_Z3CL_ily-01638-00362359-00362519 focused on romanticized
ip_Z3CL_ily-01639-00362520-00362767 types scottish highlanders knights on
ip_Z3CL_ily-01640-00362768-00362854 horseback
ip_Z3CL_ily-01641-00362855-00363167 and indigenous americans the consistency
ip_Z3CL_ily-01642-00363168-00363351 and frequency of these images
ip_Z3CL_ily-01643-00363352-00363639 suggest that far from antipathy lenore's
ip_Z3CL_ily-01644-00363640-00363887 painterly practice reveals a career-long
ip_Z3CL_ily-01645-00363888-00363943 study
ip_Z3CL_ily-01646-00363944-00364167 in the parameters of masculinity and its
ip_Z3CL_ily-01647-00364168-00364463 buried signifiers
ip_Z3CL_ily-01648-00364464-00364654 the first page of a banner sketchbook
ip_Z3CL_ily-01649-00364655-00364799 from 1855
ip_Z3CL_ily-01650-00364800-00365095 shows a minute armored knight rapier in
ip_Z3CL_ily-01651-00365096-00365143 hand
ip_Z3CL_ily-01652-00365144-00365430 striding towards the edge of the page
ip_Z3CL_ily-01653-00365431-00365630 the subsequent pages are filled with
ip_Z3CL_ily-01654-00365631-00365830 scenes of knights jousting on
ip_Z3CL_ily-01655-00365831-00366143 horseback or gathered at court it is
ip_Z3CL_ily-01656-00366144-00366382 clear that these pre-modern heroic icons
ip_Z3CL_ily-01657-00366383-00366671 held a significant appeal for the artist
ip_Z3CL_ily-01658-00366672-00366830 while most viewers would gender these
ip_Z3CL_ily-01659-00366831-00367047 figures as male their armor renders
ip_Z3CL_ily-01660-00367048-00367182 their sex unreadable
ip_Z3CL_ily-01661-00367183-00367406 leaving space for bannor to appropriate
ip_Z3CL_ily-01662-00367407-00367606 them in the construction of her own
ip_Z3CL_ily-01663-00367607-00367967 masculine identity these chivalric
ip_Z3CL_ily-01664-00367968-00368078 caricatures
ip_Z3CL_ily-01665-00368079-00368295 gain poignant relevance when paired with
ip_Z3CL_ily-01666-00368296-00368599 an 1837-7 photograph of the young
ip_Z3CL_ily-01667-00368600-00368887 rosa-panore she is dressed in the garb
ip_Z3CL_ily-01668-00368888-00368951 of a knight
ip_Z3CL_ily-01669-00368952-00369151 which alludes to her induction into the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01670-00369152-00369343 order of the night's templar
ip_Z3CL_ily-01671-00369344-00369558 made possible by her father's brief
ip_Z3CL_ily-01672-00369559-00369775 membership with the group
ip_Z3CL_ily-01673-00369776-00370023 years later roosevelt would recount the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01674-00370024-00370295 memory to her partner anna klumpke
ip_Z3CL_ily-01675-00370296-00370519 to complete the initiation ceremony i
ip_Z3CL_ily-01676-00370520-00370719 had to trap on my little legs down
ip_Z3CL_ily-01677-00370720-00370878 through an archway of swords that the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01678-00370879-00370975 knights lined up
ip_Z3CL_ily-01679-00370976-00371295 two by two crossed overhead of course
ip_Z3CL_ily-01680-00371296-00371527 i didn't understand what was going on
ip_Z3CL_ily-01681-00371528-00371615 but i felt
ip_Z3CL_ily-01682-00371616-00371951 transfigured once a feeble little girl
ip_Z3CL_ily-01683-00371952-00372375 now a valiant woman warrior end quote
ip_Z3CL_ily-01684-00372376-00372543 this account and accompanying
ip_Z3CL_ily-01685-00372544-00372791 photographs suggest that in the mystical
ip_Z3CL_ily-01686-00372792-00372991 pseudo-historical iconography of the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01687-00372992-00373110 moyen age
ip_Z3CL_ily-01688-00373111-00373334 manure found a visual language that
ip_Z3CL_ily-01689-00373335-00373471 articulated her own
ip_Z3CL_ily-01690-00373472-00373719 distinctly female masculinity which
ip_Z3CL_ily-01691-00373720-00373910 contemporary categories of gender could
ip_Z3CL_ily-01692-00373911-00374071 not accommodate
ip_Z3CL_ily-01693-00374072-00374247 this gesture is consistent with the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01694-00374248-00374463 nostalgic backward glance that jose
ip_Z3CL_ily-01695-00374464-00374671 esteban munoz has identified in the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01696-00374672-00374975 construction of many queer utopias
ip_Z3CL_ily-01697-00374976-00375191 her self-described transfiguration from
ip_Z3CL_ily-01698-00375192-00375463 a quote feeble girl to a valiant woman
ip_Z3CL_ily-01699-00375464-00375558 warrior
ip_Z3CL_ily-01700-00375559-00375815 suggests her appropriation and queering
ip_Z3CL_ily-01701-00375816-00375895 of medieval
ip_Z3CL_ily-01702-00375896-00376199 martial masculinity by extension
ip_Z3CL_ily-01703-00376200-00376399 her many knights can be read as womanly
ip_Z3CL_ily-01704-00376400-00376623 warriors as well
ip_Z3CL_ily-01705-00376624-00376823 lenore's courtly scenes attest to her
ip_Z3CL_ily-01706-00376824-00377063 willingness to borrow from mythologized
ip_Z3CL_ily-01707-00377064-00377271 narratives of heroic masculinity
ip_Z3CL_ily-01708-00377272-00377487 to distinguish masculine signifiers from
ip_Z3CL_ily-01709-00377488-00377630 the modern male body
ip_Z3CL_ily-01710-00377631-00377839 and to bring those signifiers into
ip_Z3CL_ily-01711-00377840-00378023 closer proximity with her own
ip_Z3CL_ily-01712-00378024-00378310 female body in the same spirit the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01713-00378311-00378478 painters rendering of her male
ip_Z3CL_ily-01714-00378479-00378623 contemporaries reveal
ip_Z3CL_ily-01715-00378624-00378847 an effort to humanize these otherwise
ip_Z3CL_ily-01716-00378848-00379071 romantic male types
ip_Z3CL_ily-01717-00379072-00379271 her depictions of scottish highlanders
ip_Z3CL_ily-01718-00379272-00379543 drives this point home
ip_Z3CL_ily-01719-00379544-00379734 produced several paintings based on her
ip_Z3CL_ily-01720-00379735-00379878 1850 tour of
ip_Z3CL_ily-01721-00379879-00380119 scotland but the highland shepherd is
ip_Z3CL_ily-01722-00380120-00380327 particularly illuminating
ip_Z3CL_ily-01723-00380328-00380558 there is a stoic humility to the worn
ip_Z3CL_ily-01724-00380559-00380782 character of the shepherd's shoes
ip_Z3CL_ily-01725-00380783-00381006 the visible softness of his sheepskin
ip_Z3CL_ily-01726-00381007-00381095 stockings
ip_Z3CL_ily-01727-00381096-00381319 and a vulnerability to the way he braces
ip_Z3CL_ily-01728-00381320-00381527 himself against the wind that ruffles
ip_Z3CL_ily-01729-00381528-00381727 his hair and kilt
ip_Z3CL_ily-01730-00381728-00381934 the highland shepherd employs strategies
ip_Z3CL_ily-01731-00381935-00382182 of realism to offer a frank assessment
ip_Z3CL_ily-01732-00382183-00382271 of the environment
ip_Z3CL_ily-01733-00382272-00382495 and its subject rather than molding her
ip_Z3CL_ily-01734-00382496-00382710 highlander into a preconceived
ip_Z3CL_ily-01735-00382711-00383030 type fenora's shepherd
ip_Z3CL_ily-01736-00383031-00383223 contrasts significantly with that of her
ip_Z3CL_ily-01737-00383224-00383478 traveling companion edwin lancier
ip_Z3CL_ily-01738-00383479-00383767 his 1850 the highlander offers a highly
ip_Z3CL_ily-01739-00383768-00383951 idealized depiction
ip_Z3CL_ily-01740-00383952-00384151 the highlander like the cowboy was an
ip_Z3CL_ily-01741-00384152-00384287 emblem of masculinity
ip_Z3CL_ily-01742-00384288-00384502 who functioned in a liminal space
ip_Z3CL_ily-01743-00384503-00384702 between white european civility
ip_Z3CL_ily-01744-00384703-00385015 and primitive martial strength landser
ip_Z3CL_ily-01745-00385016-00385239 conflates these opposing ideologies by
ip_Z3CL_ily-01746-00385240-00385415 wrapping the physical mass of his
ip_Z3CL_ily-01747-00385416-00385647 subject in tightly fitting garments
ip_Z3CL_ily-01748-00385648-00385878 barely containing the brute animality of
ip_Z3CL_ily-01749-00385879-00386054 his features under an expression of
ip_Z3CL_ily-01750-00386055-00386191 restraint
ip_Z3CL_ily-01751-00386192-00386391 the overall effect reinscribes
ip_Z3CL_ily-01752-00386392-00386639 stereotypical attitudes towards scottish
ip_Z3CL_ily-01753-00386640-00386902 men in the period of british rule
ip_Z3CL_ily-01754-00386903-00387087 where landseer attests to the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01755-00387088-00387287 authenticity of his encounter with the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01756-00387288-00387382 scotsman
ip_Z3CL_ily-01757-00387383-00387630 through detail and idealization the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01758-00387631-00387854 authenticity of bonor's painting comes
ip_Z3CL_ily-01759-00387855-00387943 instead
ip_Z3CL_ily-01760-00387944-00388158 from her unidealized assessment of her
ip_Z3CL_ily-01761-00388159-00388302 subject
ip_Z3CL_ily-01762-00388303-00388439 rather than a straightforward
ip_Z3CL_ily-01763-00388440-00388606 re-inscribing of pre-existing
ip_Z3CL_ily-01764-00388607-00388743 stereotypes
ip_Z3CL_ily-01765-00388744-00388943 her romantic male figures reflect an
ip_Z3CL_ily-01766-00388944-00389182 effort to make real an idyllic
ip_Z3CL_ily-01767-00389183-00389478 untamed mode of masculinity otherwise
ip_Z3CL_ily-01768-00389479-00389678 unavailable to her in contemporary
ip_Z3CL_ily-01769-00389679-00389863 french society
ip_Z3CL_ily-01770-00389864-00390087 far enough removed from the gendered
ip_Z3CL_ily-01771-00390088-00390358 strictures of her own lived experiences
ip_Z3CL_ily-01772-00390359-00390599 these romanticized images of masculinity
ip_Z3CL_ily-01773-00390600-00390839 allowed bannor to gather and assemble
ip_Z3CL_ily-01774-00390840-00391078 a more pliant taxonomy of alternative
ip_Z3CL_ily-01775-00391079-00391199 masculinities
ip_Z3CL_ily-01776-00391200-00391367 from which she could draw in her efforts
ip_Z3CL_ily-01777-00391368-00391582 to create a space for herself in the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01778-00391583-00391767 world
ip_Z3CL_ily-01779-00391768-00391999 in the cody portrait lenore leverages
ip_Z3CL_ily-01780-00392000-00392206 her finely attuned female masculine
ip_Z3CL_ily-01781-00392207-00392527 gaze to record both the performer and
ip_Z3CL_ily-01782-00392528-00392806 his performance of the masculine ideal
ip_Z3CL_ily-01783-00392807-00393015 nowhere is this more evident than in her
ip_Z3CL_ily-01784-00393016-00393167 handling of paint
ip_Z3CL_ily-01785-00393168-00393351 there is a nebulous quality to his
ip_Z3CL_ily-01786-00393352-00393567 visage that permeates the space around
ip_Z3CL_ily-01787-00393568-00393599 him
ip_Z3CL_ily-01788-00393600-00393775 as if he is shrouded in a kind of
ip_Z3CL_ily-01789-00393776-00393951 painterly haze
ip_Z3CL_ily-01790-00393952-00394151 her individualized brushstrokes threaten
ip_Z3CL_ily-01791-00394152-00394382 to overwhelm cody's features
ip_Z3CL_ily-01792-00394383-00394654 this gesture serves as a poetic echo of
ip_Z3CL_ily-01793-00394655-00394878 the performer's tendency to submerge his
ip_Z3CL_ily-01794-00394879-00394910 own
ip_Z3CL_ily-01795-00394911-00395102 individual identity in favor of an
ip_Z3CL_ily-01796-00395103-00395343 association with a generalized cowboy
ip_Z3CL_ily-01797-00395344-00395454 type
ip_Z3CL_ily-01798-00395455-00395678 throughout his career cody consistently
ip_Z3CL_ily-01799-00395679-00395887 conflated the details of his personal
ip_Z3CL_ily-01800-00395888-00395927 life
ip_Z3CL_ily-01801-00395928-00396167 with the exaggerated narratives of valor
ip_Z3CL_ily-01802-00396168-00396319 that originated in his stage
ip_Z3CL_ily-01803-00396320-00396478 performances
ip_Z3CL_ily-01804-00396479-00396695 lenore's highly individualized brush
ip_Z3CL_ily-01805-00396696-00396823 strokes give visual
ip_Z3CL_ily-01806-00396824-00397039 form to the space between cody's
ip_Z3CL_ily-01807-00397040-00397151 individuality
ip_Z3CL_ily-01808-00397152-00397439 and his hyper-masculine performance in
ip_Z3CL_ily-01809-00397440-00397510 so doing
ip_Z3CL_ily-01810-00397511-00397687 she not only asserts her painterly
ip_Z3CL_ily-01811-00397688-00397927 identity she effectively contains two
ip_Z3CL_ily-01812-00397928-00398006 subjects
ip_Z3CL_ily-01813-00398007-00398271 william f cody and buffalo bill in the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01814-00398272-00398375 body of one
ip_Z3CL_ily-01815-00398376-00398663 subject in asserting her own female
ip_Z3CL_ily-01816-00398664-00398887 masculine gays banora quite literally
ip_Z3CL_ily-01817-00398888-00399206 blurs the lines between man and myth
ip_Z3CL_ily-01818-00399207-00399399 as i hope to have shown bonus portrait
ip_Z3CL_ily-01819-00399400-00399591 of kodi offers a critical point of
ip_Z3CL_ily-01820-00399592-00399775 access through which we might begin to
ip_Z3CL_ily-01821-00399776-00399958 reinterpret both the boundaries of
ip_Z3CL_ily-01822-00399959-00400247 masculinity and its construction
ip_Z3CL_ily-01823-00400248-00400463 for while both rosa-banor and william f
ip_Z3CL_ily-01824-00400464-00400687 cody looked beyond the borders of modern
ip_Z3CL_ily-01825-00400688-00400782 masculinity
ip_Z3CL_ily-01826-00400783-00400967 in the construction of their respective
ip_Z3CL_ily-01827-00400968-00401110 gender identities
ip_Z3CL_ily-01828-00401111-00401358 it was the particulars of bonor's female
ip_Z3CL_ily-01829-00401359-00401551 masculinity that made her uniquely
ip_Z3CL_ily-01830-00401552-00401623 equipped
ip_Z3CL_ily-01831-00401624-00401871 to reify her subject's male body and his
ip_Z3CL_ily-01832-00401872-00402047 masculine performance
ip_Z3CL_ily-01833-00402048-00402263 in the end it took a woman in pants to
ip_Z3CL_ily-01834-00402264-00402382 see buffalo bill
ip_Z3CL_ily-01835-00402383-00404767 for who he was thank you
ip_Z3CL_ily-01836-00404768-00405078 thank you all three of you so much for
ip_Z3CL_ily-01837-00405079-00405151 three
ip_Z3CL_ily-01838-00405152-00405471 really really fantastic papers um
ip_Z3CL_ily-01839-00405472-00405775 all of which were so different
ip_Z3CL_ily-01840-00405776-00406095 um you know we we we group these papers
ip_Z3CL_ily-01841-00406096-00406295 together before we read them
ip_Z3CL_ily-01842-00406296-00406591 and these were together because of the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01843-00406592-00406799 time period basically right they're all
ip_Z3CL_ily-01844-00406800-00407158 sort of 19th century um and so it's been
ip_Z3CL_ily-01845-00407159-00407247 a lot of fun
ip_Z3CL_ily-01846-00407248-00407510 to listen to the three of you and it was
ip_Z3CL_ily-01847-00407511-00407654 fun to read them ahead of time and to
ip_Z3CL_ily-01848-00407655-00407775 try to think of
ip_Z3CL_ily-01849-00407776-00408102 the kind of intersections um not that
ip_Z3CL_ily-01850-00408103-00408151 there would
ip_Z3CL_ily-01851-00408152-00408351 be any but it's just a sort of fun thing
ip_Z3CL_ily-01852-00408352-00408487 to do and um
ip_Z3CL_ily-01853-00408488-00408719 i think that what i the thread that i
ip_Z3CL_ily-01854-00408720-00408839 was able to draw out
ip_Z3CL_ily-01855-00408840-00408934 is that they're all about
ip_Z3CL_ily-01856-00408935-00409206 destabilization in one way or another
ip_Z3CL_ily-01857-00409207-00409419 um britney is about the the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01858-00409420-00409582 destabilization of
ip_Z3CL_ily-01859-00409583-00409910 um constructions of mass
ip_Z3CL_ily-01860-00409912-00410247 masculinity um thomas is about
ip_Z3CL_ily-01861-00410247-00410591 i think the destabilization of the idea
ip_Z3CL_ily-01862-00410592-00410703 of
ip_Z3CL_ily-01863-00410704-00411078 um american-ness
ip_Z3CL_ily-01864-00411079-00411422 perhaps and miriam's
ip_Z3CL_ily-01865-00411423-00411743 um about the destabilization of the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01866-00411743-00411807 viewer's
ip_Z3CL_ily-01867-00411808-00412214 own sense of gravity
ip_Z3CL_ily-01868-00412215-00412559 um and so i want to ask
ip_Z3CL_ily-01869-00412560-00412878 you each
ip_Z3CL_ily-01870-00412879-00413070 some questions individually and then
ip_Z3CL_ily-01871-00413071-00413199 open it up to
ip_Z3CL_ily-01872-00413200-00413414 the um to the audience for questions
ip_Z3CL_ily-01873-00413415-00413599 because i know that there are a lot that
ip_Z3CL_ily-01874-00413600-00413695 are already coming
ip_Z3CL_ily-01875-00413696-00414078 in um and i will start
ip_Z3CL_ily-01876-00414079-00414334 with thomas i would like to i wanted to
ip_Z3CL_ily-01877-00414335-00414482 ask you
ip_Z3CL_ily-01878-00414483-00414766 um
ip_Z3CL_ily-01879-00414767-00415070 about the reception of these works
ip_Z3CL_ily-01880-00415071-00415359 in the u.s and whether the um sort of
ip_Z3CL_ily-01881-00415360-00415599 transnational
ip_Z3CL_ily-01882-00415600-00416039 nate you know quality of them um
ip_Z3CL_ily-01883-00416039-00416351 had any impact on on the way that um
ip_Z3CL_ily-01884-00416352-00416870 you you u.s audiences um received them
ip_Z3CL_ily-01885-00416871-00417030 sure that's an excellent question thank
ip_Z3CL_ily-01886-00417031-00417222 you um
ip_Z3CL_ily-01887-00417223-00417559 i would say that most 19th century
ip_Z3CL_ily-01888-00417560-00417687 audiences
ip_Z3CL_ily-01889-00417688-00418095 in the u.s were unbothered by the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01890-00418096-00418399 transatlantic nature of these works they
ip_Z3CL_ily-01891-00418400-00418703 just saw many of these images
ip_Z3CL_ily-01892-00418704-00419047 as quintessential expressions of
ip_Z3CL_ily-01893-00419047-00419326 america's uniqueness and identity
ip_Z3CL_ily-01894-00419327-00419391 through
ip_Z3CL_ily-01895-00419392-00419710 the landscape so what i'm
ip_Z3CL_ily-01896-00419712-00419847 i've been trying to show and this is
ip_Z3CL_ily-01897-00419847-00419983 also what i'm trying to show in my
ip_Z3CL_ily-01898-00419984-00420087 dissertation
ip_Z3CL_ily-01899-00420088-00420391 is that there was a
ip_Z3CL_ily-01900-00420392-00420655 sort of fluid circulation and perception
ip_Z3CL_ily-01901-00420656-00420799 of these works
ip_Z3CL_ily-01902-00420800-00421103 and that we should maybe expand
ip_Z3CL_ily-01903-00421104-00421366 the ways in which we think about
ip_Z3CL_ily-01904-00421367-00421487 nationalism and what
ip_Z3CL_ily-01905-00421488-00421799 national art means especially because
ip_Z3CL_ily-01906-00421800-00421999 these people were producing images at
ip_Z3CL_ily-01907-00422000-00422199 the same time as an artist like thomas
ip_Z3CL_ily-01908-00422200-00422247 cole
ip_Z3CL_ily-01909-00422247-00422535 was since then been revered as the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01910-00422535-00422751 founding figure of an american school
ip_Z3CL_ily-01911-00422752-00423070 of landscape but contemporary audiences
ip_Z3CL_ily-01912-00423071-00423279 didn't really make the difference
ip_Z3CL_ily-01913-00423280-00423655 as long as they perceive these images
ip_Z3CL_ily-01914-00423656-00424263 as really praising an american spirit
ip_Z3CL_ily-01915-00424264-00424583 thank you um and it was i have to say it
ip_Z3CL_ily-01916-00424584-00424614 was
ip_Z3CL_ily-01917-00424615-00424887 it was um it was really kind of striking
ip_Z3CL_ily-01918-00424888-00425143 to
ip_Z3CL_ily-01919-00425143-00425431 look at to to see your paper or your
ip_Z3CL_ily-01920-00425432-00425583 your talk after miriam's
ip_Z3CL_ily-01921-00425584-00425822 because you're you're the landscapes
ip_Z3CL_ily-01922-00425823-00426039 that you're looking at are so
ip_Z3CL_ily-01923-00426039-00426303 about legibility and kind of clear
ip_Z3CL_ily-01924-00426304-00426439 orientation
ip_Z3CL_ily-01925-00426439-00426775 and um miriam's obviously were
ip_Z3CL_ily-01926-00426776-00426943 not mirroring not like you made them
ip_Z3CL_ily-01927-00426943-00427214 miriam monets were
ip_Z3CL_ily-01928-00427215-00427599 if only total you know the opposite so
ip_Z3CL_ily-01929-00427600-00427639 that was
ip_Z3CL_ily-01930-00427639-00427991 it was just that was very um fun to
ip_Z3CL_ily-01931-00427992-00428199 to sort of see those those two right up
ip_Z3CL_ily-01932-00428200-00428351 against each other
ip_Z3CL_ily-01933-00428352-00428743 um so i i wanted to ask miriam
ip_Z3CL_ily-01934-00428743-00429135 um i mean you're listening to your talk
ip_Z3CL_ily-01935-00429135-00429455 i had there were several moments where i
ip_Z3CL_ily-01936-00429456-00429766 i sort of gasped um
ip_Z3CL_ily-01937-00429767-00430103 because um out of excitement
ip_Z3CL_ily-01938-00430104-00430422 um and even you know something that is
ip_Z3CL_ily-01939-00430423-00430543 probably really
ip_Z3CL_ily-01940-00430543-00430718 really obvious to everybody listening
ip_Z3CL_ily-01941-00430719-00430863 but it wasn't to me
ip_Z3CL_ily-01942-00430864-00431095 was the when you when you got to the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01943-00431096-00431231 point where you started talking about
ip_Z3CL_ily-01944-00431232-00431407 the reflected images being
ip_Z3CL_ily-01945-00431408-00431839 inversions i was like oh my god yes
ip_Z3CL_ily-01946-00431839-00432127 they are um because i've i've thought
ip_Z3CL_ily-01947-00432128-00432183 about
ip_Z3CL_ily-01948-00432184-00432503 the reflections as
ip_Z3CL_ily-01949-00432504-00432710 reproductions and as images but i've
ip_Z3CL_ily-01950-00432712-00432855 never thought about them
ip_Z3CL_ily-01951-00432856-00433055 as inversions and that seems really
ip_Z3CL_ily-01952-00433056-00433295 important and what you
ip_Z3CL_ily-01953-00433296-00433518 do in that paper seems like a very
ip_Z3CL_ily-01954-00433519-00433703 exciting and important new way of
ip_Z3CL_ily-01955-00433704-00433791 opening up
ip_Z3CL_ily-01956-00433792-00434047 um a a way of looking at monet and
ip_Z3CL_ily-01957-00434047-00434287 talking about monet
ip_Z3CL_ily-01958-00434288-00434591 what i wanted to ask you was how
ip_Z3CL_ily-01959-00434592-00435039 might you connect what monet is doing
ip_Z3CL_ily-01960-00435039-00435335 in these works that destabilization of
ip_Z3CL_ily-01961-00435335-00435487 the viewers
ip_Z3CL_ily-01962-00435488-00435879 position or of the viewer's power to
ip_Z3CL_ily-01963-00435880-00436118 the historical moment in which he was
ip_Z3CL_ily-01964-00436119-00436487 working
ip_Z3CL_ily-01965-00436488-00436710 absolutely well thank you so much martha
ip_Z3CL_ily-01966-00436712-00436887 for that good question and i'm
ip_Z3CL_ily-01967-00436888-00437166 glad the gasps were uh for excitement
ip_Z3CL_ily-01968-00437167-00437359 and not for other reasons but
ip_Z3CL_ily-01969-00437360-00437710 um of course for the sake of time today
ip_Z3CL_ily-01970-00437712-00437814 i couldn't speak
ip_Z3CL_ily-01971-00437815-00438207 uh to the deep historic context that
ip_Z3CL_ily-01972-00438208-00438303 informs
ip_Z3CL_ily-01973-00438304-00438614 not only monet's production in really
ip_Z3CL_ily-01974-00438615-00438822 the early 20th century you know i would
ip_Z3CL_ily-01975-00438823-00438887 say that
ip_Z3CL_ily-01976-00438888-00439103 that just right off the bat um you know
ip_Z3CL_ily-01977-00439104-00439214 too often
ip_Z3CL_ily-01978-00439215-00439487 these paintings are read as
ip_Z3CL_ily-01979-00439488-00439607 manifestations of
ip_Z3CL_ily-01980-00439608-00439895 impressionism because they were created
ip_Z3CL_ily-01981-00439896-00439951 by
ip_Z3CL_ily-01982-00439952-00440207 a painter who is so often associated
ip_Z3CL_ily-01983-00440208-00440391 with the 19th century but again
ip_Z3CL_ily-01984-00440392-00440639 most of them are painted you know into
ip_Z3CL_ily-01985-00440639-00440751 the 20s
ip_Z3CL_ily-01986-00440752-00441055 into the 1920s and and again
ip_Z3CL_ily-01987-00441056-00441366 as i mentioned received um with with
ip_Z3CL_ily-01988-00441367-00441422 much
ip_Z3CL_ily-01989-00441423-00441814 uh admiration in the mid 20th century
ip_Z3CL_ily-01990-00441815-00442047 and so i would say that both of those
ip_Z3CL_ily-01991-00442047-00442118 periods
ip_Z3CL_ily-01992-00442119-00442431 uh deeply inform my readings of the
ip_Z3CL_ily-01993-00442432-00442535 paintings
ip_Z3CL_ily-01994-00442535-00442903 um firstly you know often these water
ip_Z3CL_ily-01995-00442904-00443079 lilies when they are spoken about
ip_Z3CL_ily-01996-00443080-00443431 in 20th century terms are seen
ip_Z3CL_ily-01997-00443432-00443743 in relation to uh world war one
ip_Z3CL_ily-01998-00443743-00444079 which of course happened um as
ip_Z3CL_ily-01999-00444080-00444318 a backdrop to part of the period of
ip_Z3CL_ily-02000-00444319-00444470 monet's painting
ip_Z3CL_ily-02001-00444471-00444695 and they're they're often read as sort
ip_Z3CL_ily-02002-00444696-00444814 of escapist
ip_Z3CL_ily-02003-00444815-00445159 uh enterprises that are not engaged with
ip_Z3CL_ily-02004-00445160-00445463 the um horrific events
ip_Z3CL_ily-02005-00445464-00445718 of of that period but i want to
ip_Z3CL_ily-02006-00445719-00445807 emphasize
ip_Z3CL_ily-02007-00445808-00446103 that monet himself was was certainly
ip_Z3CL_ily-02008-00446104-00446166 affected
ip_Z3CL_ily-02009-00446167-00446470 by by the war and by
ip_Z3CL_ily-02010-00446471-00446807 its aftermath he also
ip_Z3CL_ily-02011-00446808-00447022 you know he he was he was working right
ip_Z3CL_ily-02012-00447023-00447247 near the front and was contributing
ip_Z3CL_ily-02013-00447247-00447463 vegetables to a field hospital
ip_Z3CL_ily-02014-00447464-00447887 uh in juvenile he was not a stranger to
ip_Z3CL_ily-02015-00447888-00448207 um the effects of of that
ip_Z3CL_ily-02016-00448208-00448535 environment and so to me um
ip_Z3CL_ily-02017-00448535-00448895 the disruptive and even disturbing
ip_Z3CL_ily-02018-00448896-00449199 aspects of modern life both
ip_Z3CL_ily-02019-00449200-00449447 in that world war one sort of early 20th
ip_Z3CL_ily-02020-00449447-00449639 century period and even again
ip_Z3CL_ily-02021-00449639-00449975 in the in the later reception um
ip_Z3CL_ily-02022-00449976-00450303 show up in the paintings to me as a kind
ip_Z3CL_ily-02023-00450304-00450327 of
ip_Z3CL_ily-02024-00450328-00450614 recapitulation a sort of inversion of
ip_Z3CL_ily-02025-00450615-00450751 something that might
ip_Z3CL_ily-02026-00450752-00451118 might typically be seen as disturbing
ip_Z3CL_ily-02027-00451119-00451527 allowing it to have a kind of
ip_Z3CL_ily-02028-00451528-00451783 ameliorative effect that is not an
ip_Z3CL_ily-02029-00451784-00451855 escape
ip_Z3CL_ily-02030-00451856-00452175 but rather a kind of
ip_Z3CL_ily-02031-00452176-00452431 alternative possibility so that
ip_Z3CL_ily-02032-00452432-00452559 uncertainty
ip_Z3CL_ily-02033-00452560-00452910 is is not purely upsetting
ip_Z3CL_ily-02034-00452912-00453503 but but opens possibility
ip_Z3CL_ily-02035-00453504-00453807 yeah thank you um
ip_Z3CL_ily-02036-00453808-00454151 and then brittany um i i loved your
ip_Z3CL_ily-02037-00454152-00454399 um i mean your discussion of the
ip_Z3CL_ily-02038-00454400-00454614 performance of the primitive masculinity
ip_Z3CL_ily-02039-00454615-00454670 was
ip_Z3CL_ily-02040-00454671-00454847 very interesting to me and you know in
ip_Z3CL_ily-02041-00454847-00454991 the context of
ip_Z3CL_ily-02042-00454992-00455359 the new um sort of urban
ip_Z3CL_ily-02043-00455360-00455687 um less physical um
ip_Z3CL_ily-02044-00455688-00455999 more reliant on technology
ip_Z3CL_ily-02045-00456000-00456335 type of man right at the time um i
ip_Z3CL_ily-02046-00456335-00456527 my question for you i mean i have lots
ip_Z3CL_ily-02047-00456528-00456775 of them but the one i wanted to ask is
ip_Z3CL_ily-02048-00456776-00457020 um in challenging
ip_Z3CL_ily-02049-00457021-00457166 [Music]
ip_Z3CL_ily-02050-00457167-00457447 um i don't want i don't in challenging
ip_Z3CL_ily-02051-00457447-00457510 um
ip_Z3CL_ily-02052-00457512-00457617 this um
ip_Z3CL_ily-02053-00457618-00457814 [Music]
ip_Z3CL_ily-02054-00457815-00458166 uh buffalo bills masculinity
ip_Z3CL_ily-02055-00458167-00458479 um is is boner also challenging the myth
ip_Z3CL_ily-02056-00458480-00458583 of america
ip_Z3CL_ily-02057-00458584-00458918 itself
ip_Z3CL_ily-02058-00458919-00459214 that's a great question thank you um so
ip_Z3CL_ily-02059-00459215-00459399 the records that we have suggest that
ip_Z3CL_ily-02060-00459400-00459495 bunnor was actually
ip_Z3CL_ily-02061-00459496-00459718 really enamored by the myth of america
ip_Z3CL_ily-02062-00459719-00459870 and in particular the west
ip_Z3CL_ily-02063-00459871-00460079 um just a few years later she meets the
ip_Z3CL_ily-02064-00460080-00460327 american portrait painter anna klumke
ip_Z3CL_ily-02065-00460328-00460510 and they begin a romantic relationship
ip_Z3CL_ily-02066-00460512-00460631 that they would carry for the rest of
ip_Z3CL_ily-02067-00460632-00460759 bondur's life
ip_Z3CL_ily-02068-00460760-00460991 and their courtship um clumpy was from
ip_Z3CL_ily-02069-00460992-00461199 san francisco and their courtship
ip_Z3CL_ily-02070-00461200-00461439 is very much entangled with anora's
ip_Z3CL_ily-02071-00461439-00461639 fantasy of being able to someday visit
ip_Z3CL_ily-02072-00461639-00461718 the west
ip_Z3CL_ily-02073-00461719-00461895 so i actually think it's the opposite
ip_Z3CL_ily-02074-00461896-00462095 rather than a challenge i think she
ip_Z3CL_ily-02075-00462096-00462407 she thought of the west um as a site
ip_Z3CL_ily-02076-00462408-00462703 of escape and ultimate social freedom
ip_Z3CL_ily-02077-00462704-00462887 and therefore it makes sense that she
ip_Z3CL_ily-02078-00462888-00463039 would see cody as a figure where she
ip_Z3CL_ily-02079-00463039-00463151 could perhaps
ip_Z3CL_ily-02080-00463152-00463447 um test the boundaries and play with the
ip_Z3CL_ily-02081-00463447-00463695 parameters of her own gendered identity
ip_Z3CL_ily-02082-00463696-00463927 i think the scholarship there's some
ip_Z3CL_ily-02083-00463928-00464079 really interesting scholarship
ip_Z3CL_ily-02084-00464080-00464303 that suggests that the west both in
ip_Z3CL_ily-02085-00464304-00464527 europe and in the eastern united states
ip_Z3CL_ily-02086-00464528-00464791 was both a geographical space and an
ip_Z3CL_ily-02087-00464792-00465022 ideological one right that symbolized
ip_Z3CL_ily-02088-00465023-00465214 the edge of society and this kind of
ip_Z3CL_ily-02089-00465215-00465422 interaction with primitivism
ip_Z3CL_ily-02090-00465423-00465655 um and i very much think that's true for
ip_Z3CL_ily-02091-00465656-00465799 her she was also really really
ip_Z3CL_ily-02092-00465800-00465918 interested in
ip_Z3CL_ily-02093-00465919-00466118 um and portrayed several of the
ip_Z3CL_ily-02094-00466119-00466303 indigenous americans that traveled with
ip_Z3CL_ily-02095-00466304-00466407 the wild west show
ip_Z3CL_ily-02096-00466408-00466551 in this period including the two
ip_Z3CL_ily-02097-00466552-00466727 gentlemen that are featured in the first
ip_Z3CL_ily-02098-00466728-00466791 show
ip_Z3CL_ily-02099-00466792-00467135 photo that i shared and even before she
ip_Z3CL_ily-02100-00467135-00467407 met the performers of the wild west show
ip_Z3CL_ily-02101-00467408-00467559 was
ip_Z3CL_ily-02102-00467560-00467759 sketching and reproducing works based on
ip_Z3CL_ily-02103-00467760-00467879 george catlin's
ip_Z3CL_ily-02104-00467880-00468095 project so yes i think there's a long
ip_Z3CL_ily-02105-00468096-00468239 investment that she has with the west
ip_Z3CL_ily-02106-00468239-00468351 end there's a lot more to
ip_Z3CL_ily-02107-00468352-00468766 unpack about it thank you
ip_Z3CL_ily-02108-00468767-00469127 let's go to um some questions now so
ip_Z3CL_ily-02109-00469128-00469287 i'm going to try to read some questions
ip_Z3CL_ily-02110-00469288-00469495 from the chat and i will start with this
ip_Z3CL_ily-02111-00469496-00469695 one from margaret worth
ip_Z3CL_ily-02112-00469696-00469959 this is she says thanks thomas you
ip_Z3CL_ily-02113-00469960-00470031 sparked
ip_Z3CL_ily-02114-00470032-00470263 some musings about possible associations
ip_Z3CL_ily-02115-00470264-00470463 between the flow of transatlantic
ip_Z3CL_ily-02116-00470464-00470535 crossings
ip_Z3CL_ily-02117-00470535-00470799 landscapes with various bodies of water
ip_Z3CL_ily-02118-00470800-00471351 and the watery fluids of printmaking
ip_Z3CL_ily-02119-00471352-00471527 well thank you thank you for this
ip_Z3CL_ily-02120-00471528-00471727 comment margaret um
ip_Z3CL_ily-02121-00471728-00471895 there's there's definitely something
ip_Z3CL_ily-02122-00471896-00472199 there about the fluidity
ip_Z3CL_ily-02123-00472200-00472614 of the material the great advantage of
ip_Z3CL_ily-02124-00472615-00472991 producing prints instead of peening
ip_Z3CL_ily-02125-00472992-00473366 is that the circulation is multiplied
ip_Z3CL_ily-02126-00473367-00473670 so you can have the same views over and
ip_Z3CL_ily-02127-00473671-00473783 over again
ip_Z3CL_ily-02128-00473784-00474118 circulating really fast across not only
ip_Z3CL_ily-02129-00474119-00474375 the us but also the atlantic world
ip_Z3CL_ily-02130-00474376-00474639 of course the atlantic world is itself a
ip_Z3CL_ily-02131-00474639-00474831 water-based metaphor
ip_Z3CL_ily-02132-00474832-00475118 um for the ocean separating these two
ip_Z3CL_ily-02133-00475119-00475310 continents that actually have more in
ip_Z3CL_ily-02134-00475312-00475510 common and more interactions that's what
ip_Z3CL_ily-02135-00475512-00475607 i'm trying to
ip_Z3CL_ily-02136-00475608-00475847 um show in my dissertation or
ip_Z3CL_ily-02137-00475847-00475966 interactions that people
ip_Z3CL_ily-02138-00475967-00476279 wanted to see in this very early period
ip_Z3CL_ily-02139-00476280-00476399 of time
ip_Z3CL_ily-02140-00476400-00476759 so i guess that to follow up on
ip_Z3CL_ily-02141-00476760-00476918 margaret's comment
ip_Z3CL_ily-02142-00476919-00477359 the issue of fluidity is really central
ip_Z3CL_ily-02143-00477360-00477718 not only the fluidity of movement but
ip_Z3CL_ily-02144-00477719-00477895 also the fluidity of transfer
ip_Z3CL_ily-02145-00477896-00478222 material transfer because in the end
ip_Z3CL_ily-02146-00478223-00478287 what
ip_Z3CL_ily-02147-00478288-00478599 we're tracing here is the life
ip_Z3CL_ily-02148-00478600-00478951 of objects and images that are
ip_Z3CL_ily-02149-00478952-00479279 constantly shifting shapes changing
ip_Z3CL_ily-02150-00479280-00479479 and being circulated from hand to hand
ip_Z3CL_ily-02151-00479480-00479599 from city to city
ip_Z3CL_ily-02152-00479600-00479895 so it's also important in terms of
ip_Z3CL_ily-02153-00479896-00480422 material culture surrounding them
ip_Z3CL_ily-02154-00480423-00480622 thanks um and there are there are there
ip_Z3CL_ily-02155-00480623-00480799 are more questions in the chat
ip_Z3CL_ily-02156-00480800-00481095 um but first i wanted to give uh the
ip_Z3CL_ily-02157-00481096-00481279 three of you a chance to
ip_Z3CL_ily-02158-00481280-00481535 if you had questions for each other um
ip_Z3CL_ily-02159-00481535-00481687 you don't have to but
ip_Z3CL_ily-02160-00481688-00482079 um you know chime in type up
ip_Z3CL_ily-02161-00482080-00482462 um okay well i had a question for
ip_Z3CL_ily-02162-00482463-00482679 for brittany um about your talk i
ip_Z3CL_ily-02163-00482680-00482935 thought he was fantastic
ip_Z3CL_ily-02164-00482935-00483287 i'm really interested in because your
ip_Z3CL_ily-02165-00483288-00483431 your talk was really focused on
ip_Z3CL_ily-02166-00483432-00483695 masculinity i was really
ip_Z3CL_ily-02167-00483696-00483999 interested to hear more about owners
ip_Z3CL_ily-02168-00484000-00484303 relationship to the american landscape
ip_Z3CL_ily-02169-00484304-00484622 itself to the land itself
ip_Z3CL_ily-02170-00484623-00484943 because she is also known to be a
ip_Z3CL_ily-02171-00484943-00485270 fabulous landscape leader so
ip_Z3CL_ily-02172-00485271-00485607 did she paint landscapes of the west
ip_Z3CL_ily-02173-00485608-00485775 how did she approach that because i
ip_Z3CL_ily-02174-00485776-00485966 think she never traveled to the us
ip_Z3CL_ily-02175-00485967-00485999 actually
ip_Z3CL_ily-02176-00486000-00486335 right right she never traveled to the us
ip_Z3CL_ily-02177-00486335-00486431 but she did
ip_Z3CL_ily-02178-00486432-00486703 um have a very strong client base in the
ip_Z3CL_ily-02179-00486704-00486839 united states um
ip_Z3CL_ily-02180-00486839-00487007 the her the horse fair her most
ip_Z3CL_ily-02181-00487008-00487151 well-known painting of course toured the
ip_Z3CL_ily-02182-00487152-00487255 us before it was
ip_Z3CL_ily-02183-00487256-00487559 purchased by an american collector um
ip_Z3CL_ily-02184-00487560-00487751 and actually yes she painted several
ip_Z3CL_ily-02185-00487752-00487943 american landscapes and in particular
ip_Z3CL_ily-02186-00487943-00488175 the west right these western prairies
ip_Z3CL_ily-02187-00488176-00488422 were of particular interest to her
ip_Z3CL_ily-02188-00488423-00488622 and when she died actually she was
ip_Z3CL_ily-02189-00488623-00488743 working on a massive
ip_Z3CL_ily-02190-00488743-00488975 unfinished scene of buffalo's hunting
ip_Z3CL_ily-02191-00488976-00489110 she did a couple of those but there was
ip_Z3CL_ily-02192-00489112-00489270 a quite large one that she was still
ip_Z3CL_ily-02193-00489271-00489399 working on painting
ip_Z3CL_ily-02194-00489400-00489670 which as i think you've keenly picked up
ip_Z3CL_ily-02195-00489671-00489831 right that was fascinating since she
ip_Z3CL_ily-02196-00489832-00490031 never actually visited so it's really an
ip_Z3CL_ily-02197-00490032-00490103 idea
ip_Z3CL_ily-02198-00490104-00490318 and a fantasy of the west that she is
ip_Z3CL_ily-02199-00490319-00490455 engaging in
ip_Z3CL_ily-02200-00490456-00490662 which is just yeah very interesting to
ip_Z3CL_ily-02201-00490663-00490807 look at thanks for asking that's a great
ip_Z3CL_ily-02202-00490808-00491055 question
ip_Z3CL_ily-02203-00491056-00491462 great um okay
ip_Z3CL_ily-02204-00491463-00491807 this is from nancy lock for miriam
ip_Z3CL_ily-02205-00491808-00492014 thank you for a truly creative and
ip_Z3CL_ily-02206-00492015-00492118 beautiful paper
ip_Z3CL_ily-02207-00492119-00492375 i love the way you relate your argument
ip_Z3CL_ily-02208-00492376-00492591 about monet to abstract painting in the
ip_Z3CL_ily-02209-00492592-00492743 20th century
ip_Z3CL_ily-02210-00492743-00492927 what do you think about the look of
ip_Z3CL_ily-02211-00492928-00493127 reflections in early landscape
ip_Z3CL_ily-02212-00493128-00493255 photography
ip_Z3CL_ily-02213-00493256-00493583 artists like eugene couvelier with the
ip_Z3CL_ily-02214-00493584-00493670 appearance of
ip_Z3CL_ily-02215-00493671-00493862 reflections and photographs have
ip_Z3CL_ily-02216-00493863-00493991 contributed to
ip_Z3CL_ily-02217-00493992-00494487 monet's visual thinking
ip_Z3CL_ily-02218-00494488-00494743 thank you so much for this question and
ip_Z3CL_ily-02219-00494743-00494814 i think that's
ip_Z3CL_ily-02220-00494815-00495103 a beautiful point that of course uh
ip_Z3CL_ily-02221-00495104-00495214 reflections
ip_Z3CL_ily-02222-00495215-00495518 are perhaps most often manifested
ip_Z3CL_ily-02223-00495519-00495855 uh in in photography for us right i even
ip_Z3CL_ily-02224-00495856-00496118 put up photographs of my own uh visit to
ip_Z3CL_ily-02225-00496119-00496222 give me
ip_Z3CL_ily-02226-00496223-00496543 while illustrating um this idea so
ip_Z3CL_ily-02227-00496543-00496870 um we know that that monet was
ip_Z3CL_ily-02228-00496871-00497135 working with some photographs in his
ip_Z3CL_ily-02229-00497135-00497199 studio
ip_Z3CL_ily-02230-00497200-00497495 of his own there are some um certainly
ip_Z3CL_ily-02231-00497496-00497527 some
ip_Z3CL_ily-02232-00497528-00497831 some self-portraits uh so to speak of of
ip_Z3CL_ily-02233-00497832-00497951 his own reflection
ip_Z3CL_ily-02234-00497952-00498166 in the pond and and those come up in
ip_Z3CL_ily-02235-00498167-00498343 accounts of these paintings
ip_Z3CL_ily-02236-00498343-00498703 i haven't thought specifically about uh
ip_Z3CL_ily-02237-00498704-00498959 but i would say that certainly those
ip_Z3CL_ily-02238-00498960-00499135 kinds of scenes
ip_Z3CL_ily-02239-00499135-00499431 uh are a part of the the broader visual
ip_Z3CL_ily-02240-00499432-00499527 culture
ip_Z3CL_ily-02241-00499528-00499839 um and and one though that that i would
ip_Z3CL_ily-02242-00499839-00499879 say
ip_Z3CL_ily-02243-00499880-00500055 that the scenes that i'm familiar with
ip_Z3CL_ily-02244-00500056-00500310 are uh emphasizing that kind of
ip_Z3CL_ily-02245-00500312-00500559 doubling nature that i was referring to
ip_Z3CL_ily-02246-00500560-00500631 so that
ip_Z3CL_ily-02247-00500632-00500975 you often see uh the the land
ip_Z3CL_ily-02248-00500976-00501383 doubled in in water whereas uh
ip_Z3CL_ily-02249-00501384-00501687 is is turning the focus downward and
ip_Z3CL_ily-02250-00501688-00501766 across
ip_Z3CL_ily-02251-00501767-00502135 and and upside down uh in in paint
ip_Z3CL_ily-02252-00502135-00502559 and uh lastly i would say that
ip_Z3CL_ily-02253-00502560-00502759 while that that photographic visual
ip_Z3CL_ily-02254-00502760-00502918 culture was very
ip_Z3CL_ily-02255-00502919-00503175 present in monet's world and something
ip_Z3CL_ily-02256-00503176-00503222 that
ip_Z3CL_ily-02257-00503223-00503503 uh friends of his were were employing
ip_Z3CL_ily-02258-00503504-00503751 and he was as well
ip_Z3CL_ily-02259-00503752-00504007 this project is in many ways trying to
ip_Z3CL_ily-02260-00504008-00504159 think about what
ip_Z3CL_ily-02261-00504160-00504431 the medium of paint more specifically
ip_Z3CL_ily-02262-00504432-00504518 offers and
ip_Z3CL_ily-02263-00504519-00504843 how um its actually
ip_Z3CL_ily-02264-00504843-00505110 non-photographic properties uh in some
ip_Z3CL_ily-02265-00505112-00505151 way
ip_Z3CL_ily-02266-00505152-00505487 can destabilize us uh
ip_Z3CL_ily-02267-00505488-00505839 in relation uh to a painting more than
ip_Z3CL_ily-02268-00505839-00506087 if we were looking at a photograph uh
ip_Z3CL_ily-02269-00506088-00506183 regardless
ip_Z3CL_ily-02270-00506184-00506447 of how so so to speak abstracted a
ip_Z3CL_ily-02271-00506447-00506622 photograph of reflection
ip_Z3CL_ily-02272-00506623-00507007 might be uh we would tend to to
ip_Z3CL_ily-02273-00507008-00507343 read it as such and and sort of have a
ip_Z3CL_ily-02274-00507343-00507455 sense of
ip_Z3CL_ily-02275-00507456-00507743 an access in relation to it so i think
ip_Z3CL_ily-02276-00507743-00507847 that monet
ip_Z3CL_ily-02277-00507847-00508143 um was was likely aware of of some of
ip_Z3CL_ily-02278-00508143-00508183 that
ip_Z3CL_ily-02279-00508184-00508462 uh photographic production and and
ip_Z3CL_ily-02280-00508463-00508543 perhaps
ip_Z3CL_ily-02281-00508543-00508887 sort of working with but also against it
ip_Z3CL_ily-02282-00508888-00508975 to think about
ip_Z3CL_ily-02283-00508976-00509255 what his paintings could offer that uh
ip_Z3CL_ily-02284-00509256-00509295 such
ip_Z3CL_ily-02285-00509296-00509879 photography wouldn't
ip_Z3CL_ily-02286-00509880-00510062 there's a question another question for
ip_Z3CL_ily-02287-00510063-00510247 miriam um from gilbert
ip_Z3CL_ily-02288-00510247-00510527 jones thank you for such a wonderful
ip_Z3CL_ily-02289-00510528-00510766 talk which i found absolutely convincing
ip_Z3CL_ily-02290-00510767-00510975 monet's triptych is so large that it
ip_Z3CL_ily-02291-00510976-00511214 overwhelms the viewers visual field
ip_Z3CL_ily-02292-00511215-00511391 do you think that it might be possible
ip_Z3CL_ily-02293-00511392-00511575 to isolate and experience
ip_Z3CL_ily-02294-00511576-00511910 this same unease about the sky earth
ip_Z3CL_ily-02295-00511912-00512031 dichotomy
ip_Z3CL_ily-02296-00512032-00512214 within a very small section of the
ip_Z3CL_ily-02297-00512215-00512431 larger painted canvas
ip_Z3CL_ily-02298-00512432-00512687 or should the viewer step back and try
ip_Z3CL_ily-02299-00512688-00512910 to engage with as much of the painting
ip_Z3CL_ily-02300-00512912-00512943 as
ip_Z3CL_ily-02301-00512943-00513247 possible visually in order to experience
ip_Z3CL_ily-02302-00513247-00513670 the upside down world
ip_Z3CL_ily-02303-00513671-00513847 thank you so much gilbert for this
ip_Z3CL_ily-02304-00513847-00514070 lovely question
ip_Z3CL_ily-02305-00514071-00514366 i would say that both are are possible
ip_Z3CL_ily-02306-00514367-00514470 and that that is
ip_Z3CL_ily-02307-00514471-00514791 um in many ways the point that
ip_Z3CL_ily-02308-00514792-00515103 monet offers us the chance to
ip_Z3CL_ily-02309-00515104-00515559 um feel this sensation on a kind of
ip_Z3CL_ily-02310-00515560-00515862 close-knit intimate scale
ip_Z3CL_ily-02311-00515863-00516143 when we're looking at just a portion of
ip_Z3CL_ily-02312-00516143-00516214 a canvas
ip_Z3CL_ily-02313-00516215-00516703 but also to feel sort of more broadly
ip_Z3CL_ily-02314-00516704-00516999 upturned and disoriented in relation to
ip_Z3CL_ily-02315-00517000-00517231 the kind of panoramic possibilities
ip_Z3CL_ily-02316-00517232-00517559 that the paintings uh offer in a on a
ip_Z3CL_ily-02317-00517560-00517655 more kind of
ip_Z3CL_ily-02318-00517656-00517943 um zoomed out uh scale if we if we step
ip_Z3CL_ily-02319-00517943-00518070 back from them and and
ip_Z3CL_ily-02320-00518071-00518295 that in and of itself is actually
ip_Z3CL_ily-02321-00518296-00518375 echoing
ip_Z3CL_ily-02322-00518376-00518583 monet's own way of working this is
ip_Z3CL_ily-02323-00518584-00518783 something that was even documented in
ip_Z3CL_ily-02324-00518784-00519087 film uh and has been spoken about that
ip_Z3CL_ily-02325-00519088-00519407 in order to sort of legibly read his
ip_Z3CL_ily-02326-00519408-00519775 mark making uh we and he
ip_Z3CL_ily-02327-00519776-00520103 sort of uh worked close to the surface
ip_Z3CL_ily-02328-00520104-00520222 but then would stand
ip_Z3CL_ily-02329-00520223-00520455 back to make a different kind of sense
ip_Z3CL_ily-02330-00520456-00520575 of the scene
ip_Z3CL_ily-02331-00520576-00520775 and in relation to the water lily
ip_Z3CL_ily-02332-00520776-00520943 specifically because
ip_Z3CL_ily-02333-00520943-00521270 we are not again granted either
ip_Z3CL_ily-02334-00521271-00521583 an earthen foreground or a horizon we
ip_Z3CL_ily-02335-00521584-00521751 don't have a specific
ip_Z3CL_ily-02336-00521752-00522047 entry point that would necessitate a
ip_Z3CL_ily-02337-00522047-00522159 particular
ip_Z3CL_ily-02338-00522160-00522414 point of view we're not looking at say a
ip_Z3CL_ily-02339-00522415-00522487 classic
ip_Z3CL_ily-02340-00522488-00522743 uh perspectival you know receding
ip_Z3CL_ily-02341-00522743-00522822 picture
ip_Z3CL_ily-02342-00522823-00523062 and so therefore we're actually i
ip_Z3CL_ily-02343-00523063-00523239 believe liberated
ip_Z3CL_ily-02344-00523239-00523551 to sort of imaginatively enter the
ip_Z3CL_ily-02345-00523552-00523607 picture
ip_Z3CL_ily-02346-00523608-00523910 from really any position and at any
ip_Z3CL_ily-02347-00523912-00524375 scale
ip_Z3CL_ily-02348-00524376-00524783 um okay thank you
ip_Z3CL_ily-02349-00524784-00525135 trying to i've lost my here we go okay
ip_Z3CL_ily-02350-00525136-00525518 um
ip_Z3CL_ily-02351-00525519-00525775 thomas i was just wondering about um
ip_Z3CL_ily-02352-00525776-00525831 whether
ip_Z3CL_ily-02353-00525832-00526143 you know um there
ip_Z3CL_ily-02354-00526144-00526503 is discussion in
ip_Z3CL_ily-02355-00526504-00526822 um i don't know the
ip_Z3CL_ily-02356-00526823-00527135 news media um um just
ip_Z3CL_ily-02357-00527136-00527511 at the time about the
ip_Z3CL_ily-02358-00527512-00527870 democratic nature of the lithographic
ip_Z3CL_ily-02359-00527871-00527927 process
ip_Z3CL_ily-02360-00527928-00528103 i'm just thinking about you know america
ip_Z3CL_ily-02361-00528104-00528399 is still a pretty young democracy
ip_Z3CL_ily-02362-00528400-00528735 at that point and whether this
ip_Z3CL_ily-02363-00528736-00529103 medium was was talked about um
ip_Z3CL_ily-02364-00529104-00529391 in that way absolutely thank you for
ip_Z3CL_ily-02365-00529392-00529495 your question it was
ip_Z3CL_ily-02366-00529496-00529759 absolutely discussed in contemporary um
ip_Z3CL_ily-02367-00529760-00530007 newspapers and magazines
ip_Z3CL_ily-02368-00530008-00530247 uh just starting with the fact that the
ip_Z3CL_ily-02369-00530248-00530431 very first lithography
ip_Z3CL_ily-02370-00530432-00530670 published in the united states happens
ip_Z3CL_ily-02371-00530671-00530799 to be a landscape
ip_Z3CL_ily-02372-00530800-00530975 is published in a magazine it's
ip_Z3CL_ily-02373-00530976-00531103 published in a magazine with a
ip_Z3CL_ily-02374-00531104-00531231 description
ip_Z3CL_ily-02375-00531232-00531679 so from the get-go um lithography
ip_Z3CL_ily-02376-00531680-00532039 gets flaunted as this
ip_Z3CL_ily-02377-00532040-00532447 very useful medium to send
ip_Z3CL_ily-02378-00532448-00532718 the id the visual concept of american
ip_Z3CL_ily-02379-00532719-00532959 landscape everywhere in the country
ip_Z3CL_ily-02380-00532960-00533247 and then starting in the 1830s and 40s
ip_Z3CL_ily-02381-00533248-00533359 you have
ip_Z3CL_ily-02382-00533360-00533647 art association like the american art
ip_Z3CL_ily-02383-00533648-00533735 union
ip_Z3CL_ily-02384-00533736-00534062 relying heavily on different techniques
ip_Z3CL_ily-02385-00534063-00534103 of
ip_Z3CL_ily-02386-00534104-00534366 printing and especially on lithography
ip_Z3CL_ily-02387-00534367-00534495 to send
ip_Z3CL_ily-02388-00534496-00534703 dozens of views of american landscapes
ip_Z3CL_ily-02389-00534704-00534883 to their subscribers throughout the
ip_Z3CL_ily-02390-00534884-00535007 country
ip_Z3CL_ily-02391-00535008-00535335 and this is also picked up by artists um
ip_Z3CL_ily-02392-00535336-00535711 as well they entrust lithographers
ip_Z3CL_ily-02393-00535712-00535927 to turn their landscape heatings into
ip_Z3CL_ily-02394-00535928-00536151 lithographs that would then be
ip_Z3CL_ily-02395-00536152-00536422 added to a purchase or a subscription to
ip_Z3CL_ily-02396-00536423-00536535 an organization
ip_Z3CL_ily-02397-00536536-00536918 so uh it really this this print culture
ip_Z3CL_ily-02398-00536919-00537151 revolution taps into the id
ip_Z3CL_ily-02399-00537152-00537462 of the populist um
ip_Z3CL_ily-02400-00537463-00537855 and also you know very common widespread
ip_Z3CL_ily-02401-00537856-00538175 uh need for people to connect to that
ip_Z3CL_ily-02402-00538176-00538239 sort
ip_Z3CL_ily-02403-00538240-00538766 of aesthetic so yes definitely
ip_Z3CL_ily-02404-00538767-00539231 thank you okay going back to the chat um
ip_Z3CL_ily-02405-00539232-00539535 lisa saltzman asks miriam
ip_Z3CL_ily-02406-00539536-00539847 um
ip_Z3CL_ily-02407-00539848-00540118 diving bells long precede not just
ip_Z3CL_ily-02408-00540119-00540199 dirigibles
ip_Z3CL_ily-02409-00540200-00540422 airplanes and spacecraft but even
ip_Z3CL_ily-02410-00540423-00540535 balloons
ip_Z3CL_ily-02411-00540536-00540791 do monet's most radical experiments with
ip_Z3CL_ily-02412-00540792-00541031 the disorientation of painting
ip_Z3CL_ily-02413-00541032-00541751 reflective sorry
ip_Z3CL_ily-02414-00541752-00541999 sorry i think i'm messing this up do
ip_Z3CL_ily-02415-00542000-00542199 monet's most radical experiments with
ip_Z3CL_ily-02416-00542200-00542318 the disorient
ip_Z3CL_ily-02417-00542319-00542727 with the disorientation of painting
ip_Z3CL_ily-02418-00542728-00543103 um oh sorry with with the disorient
ip_Z3CL_ily-02419-00543104-00543422 i i see it now let me start over
ip_Z3CL_ily-02420-00543423-00543599 diving bells long precede not just
ip_Z3CL_ily-02421-00543600-00543831 dirigibles airplanes and spacecraft but
ip_Z3CL_ily-02422-00543832-00543959 even balloons
ip_Z3CL_ily-02423-00543960-00544255 do monet's most radical experiments with
ip_Z3CL_ily-02424-00544256-00544447 the disorientation of painting
ip_Z3CL_ily-02425-00544448-00544535 reflective
ip_Z3CL_ily-02426-00544536-00544895 watery expanses augur or echo a broader
ip_Z3CL_ily-02427-00544896-00545007 transitional
ip_Z3CL_ily-02428-00545008-00545207 cultural moment when descending into
ip_Z3CL_ily-02429-00545208-00545327 oceanic depths
ip_Z3CL_ily-02430-00545328-00545647 is rivaled or supplanted by sheer
ip_Z3CL_ily-02431-00545648-00545831 aeronautical ascent
ip_Z3CL_ily-02432-00545832-00546118 breaking the barrier not of sea but of
ip_Z3CL_ily-02433-00546119-00546255 sky
ip_Z3CL_ily-02434-00546256-00546462 i'm amazed by some of these these
ip_Z3CL_ily-02435-00546463-00546822 questions
ip_Z3CL_ily-02436-00546823-00547127 absolutely lisa thank you very much for
ip_Z3CL_ily-02437-00547128-00547262 that beautiful question
ip_Z3CL_ily-02438-00547263-00547775 uh which i'm sorry for answering it lisa
ip_Z3CL_ily-02439-00547776-00548007 it speaks more broadly to my
ip_Z3CL_ily-02440-00548008-00548095 dissertation
ip_Z3CL_ily-02441-00548096-00548439 project as a whole uh which is thinking
ip_Z3CL_ily-02442-00548440-00548518 about
ip_Z3CL_ily-02443-00548519-00548703 um what i what i term a kind of
ip_Z3CL_ily-02444-00548704-00548943 gravitational imagination
ip_Z3CL_ily-02445-00548944-00549295 that emerges in my view in the late 19th
ip_Z3CL_ily-02446-00549296-00549391 century with
ip_Z3CL_ily-02447-00549392-00549766 edward muybridge photographing a horse
ip_Z3CL_ily-02448-00549767-00550118 in midair in a run what that offers
ip_Z3CL_ily-02449-00550119-00550518 to pictorial space is a kind of
ip_Z3CL_ily-02450-00550519-00550839 airborne suspension and
ip_Z3CL_ily-02451-00550840-00551103 um my broader project traces that
ip_Z3CL_ily-02452-00551104-00551175 through
ip_Z3CL_ily-02453-00551176-00551391 um to the space age so i think
ip_Z3CL_ily-02454-00551392-00551487 absolutely
ip_Z3CL_ily-02455-00551488-00552031 that there is a sense in which
ip_Z3CL_ily-02456-00552032-00552327 while monet's watery expanses are of
ip_Z3CL_ily-02457-00552328-00552391 course
ip_Z3CL_ily-02458-00552392-00552687 about a kind of plunge downward and
ip_Z3CL_ily-02459-00552688-00552751 across
ip_Z3CL_ily-02460-00552752-00553118 and upside down they also open
ip_Z3CL_ily-02461-00553119-00553631 space or a kind of um
ip_Z3CL_ily-02462-00553632-00553943 a kind of not not necessarily elevated
ip_Z3CL_ily-02463-00553944-00554022 but sort of
ip_Z3CL_ily-02464-00554023-00554327 suspended embodiment that is
ip_Z3CL_ily-02465-00554328-00554575 uh is very much about the way that that
ip_Z3CL_ily-02466-00554576-00554727 we as humans
ip_Z3CL_ily-02467-00554728-00555014 can imagine ourselves taking to the air
ip_Z3CL_ily-02468-00555015-00555047 and
ip_Z3CL_ily-02469-00555048-00555207 to having a different relationship with
ip_Z3CL_ily-02470-00555208-00555479 the vertical axis that is both
ip_Z3CL_ily-02471-00555480-00556183 upward as well as as downward
ip_Z3CL_ily-02472-00556184-00556518 thank you and i am seeing that we are um
ip_Z3CL_ily-02473-00556519-00556799 we are a little bit over time it's 4 33
ip_Z3CL_ily-02474-00556800-00556839 so
ip_Z3CL_ily-02475-00556840-00557239 um i think we should wrap it up
ip_Z3CL_ily-02476-00557240-00557566 um i would like to thank the three of
ip_Z3CL_ily-02477-00557567-00557655 you
ip_Z3CL_ily-02478-00557656-00557983 for three wonderful talks um and
ip_Z3CL_ily-02479-00557984-00558207 all of our speakers today nine wonderful
ip_Z3CL_ily-02480-00558208-00558327 talks
ip_Z3CL_ily-02481-00558328-00558670 um everybody who um who listened and
ip_Z3CL_ily-02482-00558671-00559047 who asked questions in the chat um
ip_Z3CL_ily-02483-00559048-00559335 all the advisors who um you know worked
ip_Z3CL_ily-02484-00559336-00559375 with you
ip_Z3CL_ily-02485-00559376-00559679 on these great topics and were in here
ip_Z3CL_ily-02486-00559680-00559983 sort of to introduce you today um
ip_Z3CL_ily-02487-00559984-00560166 it's been a great day and i learned a
ip_Z3CL_ily-02488-00560167-00560318 lot and um
ip_Z3CL_ily-02489-00560319-00560670 it's just really exciting to to here
ip_Z3CL_ily-02490-00560671-00561022 to to see what you're all doing and
ip_Z3CL_ily-02491-00561023-00561199 to know that the future of the history
ip_Z3CL_ily-02492-00561200-00561422 of art is in such good hands
ip_Z3CL_ily-02493-00561423-00561814 um so please um join us again
ip_Z3CL_ily-02494-00561815-00562239 next friday for day two of the symposium
ip_Z3CL_ily-02495-00562240-00562487 nine more talks um we start at ten
ip_Z3CL_ily-02496-00562488-00562614 o'clock
ip_Z3CL_ily-02497-00562615-00562943 um thank you to av
ip_Z3CL_ily-02498-00562944-00563118 our av team thank you to everybody at
ip_Z3CL_ily-02499-00563119-00563262 the barnes aaliyah
ip_Z3CL_ily-02500-00563263-00563679 kailyn jewell i'm forgetting people but
ip_Z3CL_ily-02501-00563680-00564480 it's been a great day
iOQbgYo2ihY-00000-00000830-00001037 thank you for coming
iOQbgYo2ihY-00001-00001038-00001487 and I'm very happy that we are here in
iOQbgYo2ihY-00002-00001488-00001864 in a round of diamonds I know that's uh
iOQbgYo2ihY-00003-00001866-00002176 not all diamonds here but the rest will
iOQbgYo2ihY-00004-00002177-00002518 see this in the recording but I'm very
iOQbgYo2ihY-00005-00002519-00002783 happy that we have here hundreds of
iOQbgYo2ihY-00006-00002784-00002976 diamonds already
iOQbgYo2ihY-00007-00002977-00003322 joined and let's speak about very
iOQbgYo2ihY-00008-00003323-00005256 important things
iOQbgYo2ihY-00009-00005257-00005488 because this information is very
iOQbgYo2ihY-00010-00005489-00005713 important before it goes to the white
iOQbgYo2ihY-00011-00005714-00006077 massive mass of people uh it's very
iOQbgYo2ihY-00012-00006078-00006286 important that every one of you knows
iOQbgYo2ihY-00013-00006287-00006587 this information from the from me
iOQbgYo2ihY-00014-00006588-00006695 directly
iOQbgYo2ihY-00015-00006695-00008039 application
iOQbgYo2ihY-00016-00008040-00008728 [Music]
iOQbgYo2ihY-00017-00008729-00009131 we speak already a lot of monsters about
iOQbgYo2ihY-00018-00009132-00009407 Total Domination and this is one thing
iOQbgYo2ihY-00019-00009408-00009701 about to speak to plan and completely
iOQbgYo2ihY-00020-00009702-00010139 different to achieve in real life
iOQbgYo2ihY-00021-00010140-00010342 uh can you repeat please
iOQbgYo2ihY-00022-00010343-00010619 we're speaking already a long time about
iOQbgYo2ihY-00023-00010620-00010889 Total Domination strategy but this is
iOQbgYo2ihY-00024-00010890-00011213 one thing you speak about it completely
iOQbgYo2ihY-00025-00011214-00012757 differencing to achieve it in real life
iOQbgYo2ihY-00026-00012758-00012913 and
iOQbgYo2ihY-00027-00012913-00013301 I just want to know you all that I'm
iOQbgYo2ihY-00028-00013302-00013565 still on this strategy and I'm following
iOQbgYo2ihY-00029-00013566-00013853 the stretches that in the end of our
iOQbgYo2ihY-00030-00013854-00014194 journey we have to dominate the market
iOQbgYo2ihY-00031-00014195-00015697 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00032-00015697-00016061 for Mass usage and that everyone can
iOQbgYo2ihY-00033-00016062-00016366 join and use the blockchain technology
iOQbgYo2ihY-00034-00016368-00016643 to achieve passive income
iOQbgYo2ihY-00035-00016644-00017663 um
iOQbgYo2ihY-00036-00017664-00018017 and you you all long time with me I will
iOQbgYo2ihY-00037-00018018-00018461 not tell you long story just short short
iOQbgYo2ihY-00038-00018462-00018815 uh part of our past that we have started
iOQbgYo2ihY-00039-00018816-00019169 pocu with tencent with 20 000 coins in
iOQbgYo2ihY-00040-00019170-00020213 the beginning
iOQbgYo2ihY-00041-00020214-00020561 with this small amount of coins we had
iOQbgYo2ihY-00042-00020562-00020872 achieved two times the price of hundred
iOQbgYo2ihY-00043-00020873-00021107 thousand dollar and it was absolutely
iOQbgYo2ihY-00044-00021108-00021221 amazing
iOQbgYo2ihY-00045-00021222-00022408 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00046-00022409-00022678 over the year the community have created
iOQbgYo2ihY-00047-00022679-00023057 more than 600 000 coins this is more
iOQbgYo2ihY-00048-00023058-00023471 than 6 30 and of course we have seen the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00049-00023472-00023758 correction of the price because of fear
iOQbgYo2ihY-00050-00023759-00023999 on the market because of a crash of
iOQbgYo2ihY-00051-00024000-00024407 Bitcoin too and uh because of panic
iOQbgYo2ihY-00052-00024408-00024599 sales and of course of minting
iOQbgYo2ihY-00053-00024600-00024928 incredible minting uh what people
iOQbgYo2ihY-00054-00024929-00025433 um make made very very yeah Rich
iOQbgYo2ihY-00055-00025434-00028261 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00056-00028262-00028595 users now we have this corrected price
iOQbgYo2ihY-00057-00028595-00028955 of plcu how we can achieve hundred
iOQbgYo2ihY-00058-00028956-00029239 thousand again we need very strong
iOQbgYo2ihY-00059-00029239-00031374 strategy to do it again foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00060-00031375-00031805 is just dropping last three three 365
iOQbgYo2ihY-00061-00031806-00032231 days in one part and just going down and
iOQbgYo2ihY-00062-00032232-00032507 the entire Market is crazy and scared
iOQbgYo2ihY-00063-00032508-00033715 and in panic
iOQbgYo2ihY-00064-00033716-00033937 head down
iOQbgYo2ihY-00065-00033938-00034265 and experts speaking about crypto winter
iOQbgYo2ihY-00066-00034266-00034583 it means if uh if this situation will
iOQbgYo2ihY-00067-00034584-00035027 continue then we have to wait for long
iOQbgYo2ihY-00068-00035028-00035285 long long maybe three maybe five years
iOQbgYo2ihY-00069-00035286-00035717 uh crypto winter and uh and this is very
iOQbgYo2ihY-00070-00035718-00037423 bad bad situation
iOQbgYo2ihY-00071-00037424-00037774 and besides of the entire Market best
iOQbgYo2ihY-00072-00037775-00038021 situation we have all surprise
iOQbgYo2ihY-00073-00038022-00038345 correction plcu is also corrected in
iOQbgYo2ihY-00074-00038346-00038674 price and that's why communities scared
iOQbgYo2ihY-00075-00038675-00038915 because they're seeing the following uh
iOQbgYo2ihY-00076-00038916-00039227 going down the price and of course they
iOQbgYo2ihY-00077-00039228-00039461 have fear the scare they see what's
iOQbgYo2ihY-00078-00039462-00039677 happening on the market and the Panic
iOQbgYo2ihY-00079-00039678-00040037 sales and they just don't stopping
iOQbgYo2ihY-00080-00040038-00040236 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00081-00040237-00041171 [Music]
iOQbgYo2ihY-00082-00041172-00041393 and the big problem is of course that
iOQbgYo2ihY-00083-00041394-00041651 people not following golden rules we're
iOQbgYo2ihY-00084-00041652-00041861 teaching people we're educating people
iOQbgYo2ihY-00085-00041862-00042137 but this is like with a diet of sport
iOQbgYo2ihY-00086-00042138-00042449 doing they starting they're trying but
iOQbgYo2ihY-00087-00042450-00042718 they not holding all the time they don't
iOQbgYo2ihY-00088-00042719-00043043 have self-discipline they not keeping
iOQbgYo2ihY-00089-00043044-00043324 the strategy and breaking the rules and
iOQbgYo2ihY-00090-00043325-00043612 that's why they breaking the price
iOQbgYo2ihY-00091-00043613-00046608 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00092-00046609-00046930 I'm doing what I want to do and they
iOQbgYo2ihY-00093-00046931-00047212 Breaking All the Rules and Breaking the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00094-00047213-00047530 growth of the price of pocu again and
iOQbgYo2ihY-00095-00047531-00047633 again
iOQbgYo2ihY-00096-00047634-00048221 a x small amount of uh Community
iOQbgYo2ihY-00097-00048222-00049162 um
iOQbgYo2ihY-00098-00049163-00049552 and uh the next big thing is that the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00099-00049553-00049799 market participants like coin market cap
iOQbgYo2ihY-00100-00049800-00050317 top exchanges they they giving us huge
iOQbgYo2ihY-00101-00050318-00050662 challenges and huge Market barriers that
iOQbgYo2ihY-00102-00050663-00050968 we're not ready to overcome because for
iOQbgYo2ihY-00103-00050969-00051323 example we are top 30 coin right now and
iOQbgYo2ihY-00104-00051324-00051611 on the coin market cap we're at 2 600
iOQbgYo2ihY-00105-00051612-00051892 and they don't list us that matter what
iOQbgYo2ihY-00106-00051894-00052090 we're doing they just stopping our
iOQbgYo2ihY-00107-00052091-00055003 growth foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00108-00055004-00055475 we need a strong strategy just to stop
iOQbgYo2ihY-00109-00055476-00055792 correction and to bring the high
iOQbgYo2ihY-00110-00055794-00056225 explosion by plcu and to bring the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00111-00056226-00056442 higher price and to show to people hey
iOQbgYo2ihY-00112-00056444-00056776 plcu is the best coin in the universe
iOQbgYo2ihY-00113-00056777-00057916 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00114-00057917-00058150 the correction is coming just because
iOQbgYo2ihY-00115-00058151-00058480 people selling selling selling selling
iOQbgYo2ihY-00116-00058482-00058792 selling selling everything selling and
iOQbgYo2ihY-00117-00058794-00059069 that's why the price is dropping the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00118-00059070-00059291 price the people have to understand the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00119-00059291-00059573 price can only grow because of freezing
iOQbgYo2ihY-00120-00059574-00059938 or holding and burning these two things
iOQbgYo2ihY-00121-00059939-00060280 pushing the price to the top burning and
iOQbgYo2ihY-00122-00060282-00060503 holding or freezing
iOQbgYo2ihY-00123-00060504-00062392 or Price Barber correct Corrections
iOQbgYo2ihY-00124-00062394-00062794 so we need a strategy with the pocu coin
iOQbgYo2ihY-00125-00062795-00063149 will be burned and will be frozen will
iOQbgYo2ihY-00126-00063150-00063449 be burned and Frozen and again and again
iOQbgYo2ihY-00127-00063450-00063707 and again and more and more then the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00128-00063708-00063869 price can explode
iOQbgYo2ihY-00129-00063870-00065194 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00130-00065195-00065579 the second point we need a tool where
iOQbgYo2ihY-00131-00065580-00065832 people following gold rules
iOQbgYo2ihY-00132-00065833-00066238 automatically that nobody can avoid the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00133-00066239-00066605 gold rules nobody not big guy not small
iOQbgYo2ihY-00134-00066606-00067061 guy everyone going golden rules uh a
iOQbgYo2ihY-00135-00067062-00067150 line
iOQbgYo2ihY-00136-00067151-00069121 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00137-00069122-00069485 strategy that people just following
iOQbgYo2ihY-00138-00069486-00069821 golden rules uh if they want or not it
iOQbgYo2ihY-00139-00069822-00070181 must be uh obligatory
iOQbgYo2ihY-00140-00070182-00070655 uh
iOQbgYo2ihY-00141-00070656-00071194 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00142-00071195-00071513 guys if our community would follow the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00143-00071514-00071717 gong rule the last year our price right
iOQbgYo2ihY-00144-00071718-00071926 now would be not thousand dollars it
iOQbgYo2ihY-00145-00071927-00072155 would be poor I don't know forty
iOQbgYo2ihY-00146-00072156-00072382 thousand fifty thousand sixty thousand
iOQbgYo2ihY-00147-00072383-00072599 dollars this would be our price and not
iOQbgYo2ihY-00148-00072600-00072844 one thousand only because of breaking on
iOQbgYo2ihY-00149-00072845-00073150 rules we have this disaster right now
iOQbgYo2ihY-00150-00073151-00074579 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00151-00074580-00074873 so the third Point what we need for the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00152-00074874-00075232 strategy is a very good attraction model
iOQbgYo2ihY-00153-00075233-00075544 for a new user because new user looking
iOQbgYo2ihY-00154-00075545-00075791 looking on coin market cap what is your
iOQbgYo2ihY-00155-00075792-00076073 position on coin market cap new user is
iOQbgYo2ihY-00156-00076074-00076373 looking uh looking on what exchanges you
iOQbgYo2ihY-00157-00076374-00076591 will trade it I own binance
iOQbgYo2ihY-00158-00076592-00076925 good coin on top 10 exchanges where
iOQbgYo2ihY-00159-00076926-00077315 where are you and then you can get huge
iOQbgYo2ihY-00160-00077316-00077531 huge community
iOQbgYo2ihY-00161-00077532-00078982 or a new users
iOQbgYo2ihY-00162-00078983-00079505 and of course we need we need finally to
iOQbgYo2ihY-00163-00079506-00079769 start all our products with full power
iOQbgYo2ihY-00164-00079770-00080244 our cards our cashback uh our our uh
iOQbgYo2ihY-00165-00080245-00080506 exchanges travel platform all the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00166-00080507-00080837 platforms what we have created we need
iOQbgYo2ihY-00167-00080838-00082321 to start with maximum power
iOQbgYo2ihY-00168-00082322-00082703 only then if we can provide all these
iOQbgYo2ihY-00169-00082704-00083056 four points to PLC Ultima the Ultima can
iOQbgYo2ihY-00170-00083057-00083938 explode
iOQbgYo2ihY-00171-00083939-00084281 and to Provo and of course we have to
iOQbgYo2ihY-00172-00084282-00084593 become Global we have to become a global
iOQbgYo2ihY-00173-00084594-00084994 player and so we can do this in the same
iOQbgYo2ihY-00174-00084995-00085259 condition what we have right now we have
iOQbgYo2ihY-00175-00085260-00085565 to grow not only in our community not
iOQbgYo2ihY-00176-00085566-00085906 only not uh products we need to grow in
iOQbgYo2ihY-00177-00085907-00086111 the technology
iOQbgYo2ihY-00178-00086112-00087244 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00179-00087245-00087641 for this reason we preparing a fork we
iOQbgYo2ihY-00180-00087642-00088055 will start the fork of the blockchain
iOQbgYo2ihY-00181-00088056-00088499 this is a step to create to create uh
iOQbgYo2ihY-00182-00088500-00088871 plcu as a fundamental technological uh
iOQbgYo2ihY-00183-00088872-00089021 product
iOQbgYo2ihY-00184-00089022-00089818 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00185-00089819-00090215 because the Tron chain and please don't
iOQbgYo2ihY-00186-00090216-00090562 misunderstand we will not be a token on
iOQbgYo2ihY-00187-00090563-00090803 the throne exchange no no we take the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00188-00090804-00091211 entire blockchain of Tron changing a lot
iOQbgYo2ihY-00189-00091212-00091325 of this
iOQbgYo2ihY-00190-00091326-00091721 copy this and start our own Throne
iOQbgYo2ihY-00191-00091722-00092075 blockchain an independent
iOQbgYo2ihY-00192-00092076-00093529 or um
iOQbgYo2ihY-00193-00093530-00093955 but what we are doing what we are doing
iOQbgYo2ihY-00194-00093956-00094325 uh why we are doing this what is the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00195-00094326-00094576 reason of this Fork what we will get
iOQbgYo2ihY-00196-00094577-00094949 extra advantages from drone chain that
iOQbgYo2ihY-00197-00094950-00095418 we can't get now from the Litecoin chain
iOQbgYo2ihY-00198-00095419-00096197 extra advantages
iOQbgYo2ihY-00199-00096198-00096521 first of all the Drone technology is a
iOQbgYo2ihY-00200-00096522-00096826 fundamental technology it means we can
iOQbgYo2ihY-00201-00096827-00097265 invite all Industries uh to to our
iOQbgYo2ihY-00202-00097266-00097547 blockchain we can tokenize project we
iOQbgYo2ihY-00203-00097548-00097738 can tokenize business we can start
iOQbgYo2ihY-00204-00097739-00098032 security uh they can we can start a
iOQbgYo2ihY-00205-00098033-00098255 smart contract not only our smart
iOQbgYo2ihY-00206-00098256-00098453 contract for me all smart contract what
iOQbgYo2ihY-00207-00098454-00098705 we can imagine we can create security
iOQbgYo2ihY-00208-00098706-00098993 coins we can create stable coins we can
iOQbgYo2ihY-00209-00098994-00099262 create fundamental products
iOQbgYo2ihY-00210-00099263-00102076 blockchain
iOQbgYo2ihY-00211-00102077-00102359 so of course we can give more
iOQbgYo2ihY-00212-00102360-00102558 decentralization to the community
iOQbgYo2ihY-00213-00102559-00102875 because we can create with a drone chain
iOQbgYo2ihY-00214-00102876-00103180 the centralized application like games
iOQbgYo2ihY-00215-00103181-00103540 decentralized exchanges D5 and so forth
iOQbgYo2ihY-00216-00103541-00104010 we can do a lot of things in in things
iOQbgYo2ihY-00217-00104011-00104854 decentralization for the community
iOQbgYo2ihY-00218-00104855-00105295 [Music]
iOQbgYo2ihY-00219-00105296-00105623 and one of the best things is the Tron
iOQbgYo2ihY-00220-00105624-00105839 chain has delegated proof of stake
iOQbgYo2ihY-00221-00105840-00106210 delegated proof of stake allows us to
iOQbgYo2ihY-00222-00106211-00106547 create absolutely 100 the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00223-00106548-00106883 decentralization worldwide without any
iOQbgYo2ihY-00224-00106883-00107134 doubts about this this is 100
iOQbgYo2ihY-00225-00107135-00107315 centralization
iOQbgYo2ihY-00226-00107316-00108610 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00227-00108611-00108958 and uh more more opportunities more
iOQbgYo2ihY-00228-00108959-00109228 advantages for example that we can avoid
iOQbgYo2ihY-00229-00109229-00109540 any of censorship or resist of
iOQbgYo2ihY-00230-00109541-00109895 censorship it increase security and
iOQbgYo2ihY-00231-00109896-00110425 trust and belief of all Community
iOQbgYo2ihY-00232-00110426-00111834 sensors
iOQbgYo2ihY-00233-00111835-00112343 is just amazing technology gives us a
iOQbgYo2ihY-00234-00112344-00113201 lot of new opportunities
iOQbgYo2ihY-00235-00113202-00113560 but this opportunity we can do tomorrow
iOQbgYo2ihY-00236-00113561-00113795 after tomorrow this is a long
iOQbgYo2ihY-00237-00113796-00114143 development and the plan is to start
iOQbgYo2ihY-00238-00114144-00114539 this work neck end of this off end of
iOQbgYo2ihY-00239-00114540-00114766 the next year
iOQbgYo2ihY-00240-00114767-00115207 okay uh yeah technology
iOQbgYo2ihY-00241-00115208-00115999 is
iOQbgYo2ihY-00242-00116000-00116286 technology
iOQbgYo2ihY-00243-00116288-00116527 and
iOQbgYo2ihY-00244-00116528-00116843 my goal is why I'm telling you right now
iOQbgYo2ihY-00245-00116844-00117101 about Tron chain and not in one year
iOQbgYo2ihY-00246-00117102-00117497 because I don't want to start a throne
iOQbgYo2ihY-00247-00117498-00117815 chain the fork in the community what is
iOQbgYo2ihY-00248-00117816-00118073 not educated not following Golden Rule
iOQbgYo2ihY-00249-00118074-00118445 don't have self-discipline and ruining
iOQbgYo2ihY-00250-00118446-00118858 our price on Exchange we need to be
iOQbgYo2ihY-00251-00118859-00119134 prepared and this year I want to use
iOQbgYo2ihY-00252-00119135-00119477 that we push everything in the education
iOQbgYo2ihY-00253-00119478-00119825 in the growth and in preparation for
iOQbgYo2ihY-00254-00119826-00119981 this work
iOQbgYo2ihY-00255-00119982-00122449 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00256-00122450-00122765 all the next year we're starting from
iOQbgYo2ihY-00257-00122766-00123178 Monday from in tomorrow and then one
iOQbgYo2ihY-00258-00123179-00123652 year we have a special step between what
iOQbgYo2ihY-00259-00123653-00123965 is preparation for this incredible Fork
iOQbgYo2ihY-00260-00123966-00124889 on Tron chains
iOQbgYo2ihY-00261-00124890-00125843 [Music]
iOQbgYo2ihY-00262-00125844-00126245 so and this step is that I split
iOQbgYo2ihY-00263-00126246-00126551 the PLC Ultima what existing right now
iOQbgYo2ihY-00264-00126552-00126928 in two coins you know we have split it
iOQbgYo2ihY-00265-00126929-00127434 already the network coin from the crypto
iOQbgYo2ihY-00266-00127435-00127775 yeah the with we just splitted
iOQbgYo2ihY-00267-00127776-00128008 businesses we split at crypto business
iOQbgYo2ihY-00268-00128009-00128327 from Network business you'll see X and
iOQbgYo2ihY-00269-00128328-00128783 plcu but the pocu is encrypted but it's
iOQbgYo2ihY-00270-00128783-00129083 still not clear enough it's still not
iOQbgYo2ihY-00271-00129083-00129364 clean enough for the crypto Market
iOQbgYo2ihY-00272-00129365-00130584 uh
iOQbgYo2ihY-00273-00130585-00131854 PLC X Joe uh uh
iOQbgYo2ihY-00274-00131855-00132007 because
iOQbgYo2ihY-00275-00132008-00132293 we'll see you right now it's still
iOQbgYo2ihY-00276-00132294-00132616 connected to plcx it still will be
iOQbgYo2ihY-00277-00132617-00132875 formed next 12 months the farming
iOQbgYo2ihY-00278-00132876-00133240 running by plcu right now it's still not
iOQbgYo2ihY-00279-00133241-00133583 clean enough not clear enough and that's
iOQbgYo2ihY-00280-00133584-00133859 why we need to split the part with
iOQbgYo2ihY-00281-00133860-00134171 minting the part was plcu X connection
iOQbgYo2ihY-00282-00134172-00134452 to the network connection and so forth
iOQbgYo2ihY-00283-00134453-00134861 we put in the plcu classic and the pocu
iOQbgYo2ihY-00284-00134862-00135245 Altima will be created by Zero by null
iOQbgYo2ihY-00285-00135246-00135557 by by start
iOQbgYo2ihY-00286-00135558-00135814 uh can you repeat please
iOQbgYo2ihY-00287-00135815-00135935 so
iOQbgYo2ihY-00288-00135936-00136228 um what we're doing right now we're
iOQbgYo2ihY-00289-00136229-00136547 taking our PLC Ultima what existing
iOQbgYo2ihY-00290-00136548-00136864 right now
iOQbgYo2ihY-00291-00136865-00137327 um
iOQbgYo2ihY-00292-00137328-00137843 and we just do rebranding and recoloring
iOQbgYo2ihY-00293-00137844-00138173 it will get a new name not plcu it will
iOQbgYo2ihY-00294-00138174-00138437 be plcu classic the same point what you
iOQbgYo2ihY-00295-00138438-00138695 are now have in blue it just become a
iOQbgYo2ihY-00296-00138696-00139037 green color and the name pills you
iOQbgYo2ihY-00297-00139038-00139235 classic and the and the and the domain
iOQbgYo2ihY-00298-00139236-00139499 the blockchain is the same everything is
iOQbgYo2ihY-00299-00139500-00139661 the same
iOQbgYo2ihY-00300-00139662-00141583 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00301-00141584-00141857 we have to restart with the new
iOQbgYo2ihY-00302-00141858-00142049 blockchain you can imagine this is like
iOQbgYo2ihY-00303-00142050-00142139 a car
iOQbgYo2ihY-00304-00142140-00142409 this is the same car the same Mark the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00305-00142410-00142714 same color the same name everything is
iOQbgYo2ihY-00306-00142715-00142985 the same but the motor is different we
iOQbgYo2ihY-00307-00142986-00143333 just change the motor and this is uh we
iOQbgYo2ihY-00308-00143334-00145726 we change the blockchain
iOQbgYo2ihY-00309-00145727-00146221 [Music]
iOQbgYo2ihY-00310-00146222-00146519 foreignty more strong and more richer
iOQbgYo2ihY-00311-00146520-00146843 and why it supports us especially now in
iOQbgYo2ihY-00312-00146844-00148128 the time of crypto winter
iOQbgYo2ihY-00313-00148129-00148571 so the first of all the plcu will be
iOQbgYo2ihY-00314-00148572-00148852 green right now it will become plcu
iOQbgYo2ihY-00315-00148853-00149290 classic and the name will become plcu
iOQbgYo2ihY-00316-00149291-00149519 minus classic if you go online you can
iOQbgYo2ihY-00317-00149520-00149873 see already the green website
iOQbgYo2ihY-00318-00149874-00150439 classic.com
iOQbgYo2ihY-00319-00150440-00151066 [Music]
iOQbgYo2ihY-00320-00151067-00151331 so the second the same will happening
iOQbgYo2ihY-00321-00151332-00151625 with the block Explorer this is just
iOQbgYo2ihY-00322-00151626-00151937 another name another domain and another
iOQbgYo2ihY-00323-00151938-00152339 color everything cell everything is the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00324-00152340-00152440 same
iOQbgYo2ihY-00325-00152441-00152789 uh you have a domain uh you have a
iOQbgYo2ihY-00326-00152790-00153316 change
iOQbgYo2ihY-00327-00153317-00153654 the same for form and bullet
iOQbgYo2ihY-00328-00153655-00153940 everything what you have now in the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00329-00153941-00154349 wallet like plcu and it is blue it will
iOQbgYo2ihY-00330-00154350-00154625 be just change the color the green and
iOQbgYo2ihY-00331-00154626-00155039 the balance will have name plcu classic
iOQbgYo2ihY-00332-00155040-00156311 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00333-00156312-00156587 it means that all the Farms what are
iOQbgYo2ihY-00334-00156588-00156845 running right now they continue running
iOQbgYo2ihY-00335-00156846-00157126 everything continue everything will be
iOQbgYo2ihY-00336-00157127-00157504 the same like it's was working all the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00337-00157505-00157847 time just on the on the color and on the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00338-00157848-00158845 other name
iOQbgYo2ihY-00339-00158846-00159173 other color
iOQbgYo2ihY-00340-00159174-00159509 and it will have the same pairs because
iOQbgYo2ihY-00341-00159510-00160049 you classic usdt and plcu classic x plcu
iOQbgYo2ihY-00342-00160050-00160402 x it means everything the same only the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00343-00160403-00160733 name and color are different our size is
iOQbgYo2ihY-00344-00160734-00160878 the same way
iOQbgYo2ihY-00345-00160879-00161404 or color different hoga uh plcu classic
iOQbgYo2ihY-00346-00161405-00161728 usdt server plcu classic plcxa
iOQbgYo2ihY-00347-00161729-00162113 so even the cashback will be paid out in
iOQbgYo2ihY-00348-00162114-00162364 classic so the company have to buy
iOQbgYo2ihY-00349-00162365-00162713 classic and put in the cashback and pay
iOQbgYo2ihY-00350-00162714-00163109 it out as I State everything the same
iOQbgYo2ihY-00351-00163110-00163337 what we promised
iOQbgYo2ihY-00353-00166476-00167416 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00354-00167417-00167801 so this is absolutely incredible because
iOQbgYo2ihY-00355-00167802-00168113 nobody losing anything because this is
iOQbgYo2ihY-00356-00168114-00168389 just one to one swapping this is
iOQbgYo2ihY-00357-00168390-00168766 absolutely equal and no disadvantages
iOQbgYo2ihY-00358-00168767-00169043 so this would be fixed for all time for
iOQbgYo2ihY-00359-00169044-00169663 all time fix for all time one to one
iOQbgYo2ihY-00360-00169664-00170501 is to one to one uh
iOQbgYo2ihY-00361-00170502-00170969 so and uh the new plcu will have the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00362-00170970-00171209 same this is like the car we just change
iOQbgYo2ihY-00363-00171210-00171521 the motor it will have the same domain
iOQbgYo2ihY-00364-00171522-00172001 the same block Explorer farms uh uh
iOQbgYo2ihY-00365-00172002-00172301 wallets it will be as a payment system
iOQbgYo2ihY-00366-00172302-00172643 for xminter for cashback for cards the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00367-00172644-00172914 new plcu will be integrated everywhere
iOQbgYo2ihY-00368-00172915-00173261 and uh it's also ready for one-to-one
iOQbgYo2ihY-00369-00173262-00173719 plcu swapping or uh
iOQbgYo2ihY-00370-00173720-00174251 plcu give Farms or uh Joe branding
iOQbgYo2ihY-00371-00174252-00175066 system
iOQbgYo2ihY-00372-00175067-00175385 and the payer on exchanges will become
iOQbgYo2ihY-00373-00175386-00175752 only one plcu and use details of plcu
iOQbgYo2ihY-00374-00175753-00176152 stablecoin it will come more USD usdc
iOQbgYo2ihY-00375-00176153-00176501 USD it will increase but the main pair
iOQbgYo2ihY-00376-00176502-00176938 is on the one plcu usdt
iOQbgYo2ihY-00377-00176939-00177395 uh uh repeat please so uh and the in the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00378-00177396-00177790 pair of plcu will be only one plcu usdt
iOQbgYo2ihY-00379-00177791-00178193 as uh as uh um early
iOQbgYo2ihY-00380-00178194-00179009 okay exchange
iOQbgYo2ihY-00381-00179010-00179671 um
iOQbgYo2ihY-00382-00179672-00180137 why I am splitting because plcu right
iOQbgYo2ihY-00383-00180138-00180376 now what we have will continue running
iOQbgYo2ihY-00384-00180377-00180557 like plcu
iOQbgYo2ihY-00385-00180558-00180893 classic and we will restart the brand
iOQbgYo2ihY-00386-00180894-00181266 plcu but from zero for coin market cap
iOQbgYo2ihY-00387-00181267-00181714 that they can verify us and let us grow
iOQbgYo2ihY-00388-00181715-00182201 slowly to our top 30 position you know
iOQbgYo2ihY-00389-00182202-00182476 after people swapping our position is
iOQbgYo2ihY-00390-00182477-00182704 growing growing growing growing growing
iOQbgYo2ihY-00391-00182705-00183035 and then one day we are top 100 coins
iOQbgYo2ihY-00392-00183036-00183352 because now we are 700 million I am free
iOQbgYo2ihY-00393-00183353-00183611 I afraid that they will they will punish
iOQbgYo2ihY-00394-00183612-00183904 us one year two years I don't know why
iOQbgYo2ihY-00395-00183905-00184109 they're not listing us with this
iOQbgYo2ihY-00396-00184110-00184385 strategy I hope to come to the coin
iOQbgYo2ihY-00397-00184386-00184625 market cap top ranking and to all other
iOQbgYo2ihY-00398-00184626-00185045 registers starting as the registrants to
iOQbgYo2ihY-00399-00185046-00185285 come to the top hundred position
iOQbgYo2ihY-00400-00185286-00186441 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00401-00186442-00187339 [Music]
iOQbgYo2ihY-00402-00187340-00189601 [Music]
iOQbgYo2ihY-00403-00189602-00189838 market cap
iOQbgYo2ihY-00404-00189839-00190421 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00405-00190422-00191404 position
iOQbgYo2ihY-00406-00191405-00192431 s
iOQbgYo2ihY-00407-00192432-00192804 and uh and in the time of this one year
iOQbgYo2ihY-00408-00192805-00193187 what we uh NE this is the preparation
iOQbgYo2ihY-00409-00193188-00193685 here for absolutely incredible Fork on
iOQbgYo2ihY-00410-00193686-00193913 the toront Chain we will do everything
iOQbgYo2ihY-00411-00193914-00194261 in this next 12 months is to come to the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00412-00194262-00194651 coin market cap uh uh verification and
iOQbgYo2ihY-00413-00194652-00194933 get our place under the sun
iOQbgYo2ihY-00414-00194934-00196454 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00415-00196455-00197609 [Music]
iOQbgYo2ihY-00416-00197610-00198275 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00417-00198276-00198623 so and you will see in your dashboards
iOQbgYo2ihY-00418-00198624-00198928 the package the swapping package where
iOQbgYo2ihY-00419-00198929-00199397 you can swap the plcu classic to PLC uh
iOQbgYo2ihY-00420-00199398-00199685 Ultima one-to-one absolutely
iOQbgYo2ihY-00421-00199686-00199990 automatically and that one to one
iOQbgYo2ihY-00422-00199991-00200302 forever those so you don't have any
iOQbgYo2ihY-00423-00200303-00200464 disadvantage
iOQbgYo2ihY-00424-00200465-00201383 packages
iOQbgYo2ihY-00425-00201384-00201863 and this is the reason this is this is a
iOQbgYo2ihY-00426-00201864-00202199 reason why I'm splitting to two points
iOQbgYo2ihY-00427-00202200-00202661 because I need this swap to burn
iOQbgYo2ihY-00428-00202662-00203014 to burn a lot of coins because all the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00429-00203015-00203219 swapped coins all the swapped classic
iOQbgYo2ihY-00430-00203220-00203566 coins will go immediately to burning
iOQbgYo2ihY-00431-00203567-00204259 bullet and destroy it forever
iOQbgYo2ihY-00432-00204260-00204829 swapped coins
iOQbgYo2ihY-00433-00204830-00205294 so the 700 000 plcu plus six now it will
iOQbgYo2ihY-00434-00205296-00205588 go the smaller smaller smaller smaller
iOQbgYo2ihY-00435-00205589-00205823 smaller smaller because we're burning
iOQbgYo2ihY-00436-00205823-00206032 burning burning burning everyone is
iOQbgYo2ihY-00437-00206033-00206232 swapping and food burn
iOQbgYo2ihY-00438-00206233-00206579 that's why the classic can grow also
iOQbgYo2ihY-00439-00206580-00206753 very high
iOQbgYo2ihY-00440-00206754-00206927 uh
iOQbgYo2ihY-00441-00206928-00207455 so uh the swapping of classic with X
iOQbgYo2ihY-00442-00207456-00207725 you're you're telling no the the we
iOQbgYo2ihY-00443-00207726-00208012 swapping he'll see a classic
iOQbgYo2ihY-00444-00208013-00208312 with a new pocu
iOQbgYo2ihY-00445-00208313-00208751 Les with a new plcu and all the pills
iOQbgYo2ihY-00446-00208752-00208912 you could seek what we're taking for
iOQbgYo2ihY-00447-00208913-00209182 swapping with burning
iOQbgYo2ihY-00448-00209183-00209531 okay don't don't think about you'll see
iOQbgYo2ihY-00449-00209532-00209758 X you'll see X is staying like it is
iOQbgYo2ihY-00450-00209759-00210029 doesn't matter everything is fine
iOQbgYo2ihY-00451-00210030-00210251 nothing changing we speak only about
iOQbgYo2ihY-00452-00210252-00210394 plcu
iOQbgYo2ihY-00453-00210396-00210671 the main business model is nothing
iOQbgYo2ihY-00454-00210671-00210955 changing this is only supporting
iOQbgYo2ihY-00455-00210956-00211391 strategy to push to make stronger than
iOQbgYo2ihY-00456-00211392-00211710 plcu the main coin
iOQbgYo2ihY-00457-00211711-00212975 so uh plcu classical
iOQbgYo2ihY-00458-00212976-00213394 and this is uh and why everyone want to
iOQbgYo2ihY-00459-00213396-00213701 be swapped because the price of pocu
iOQbgYo2ihY-00460-00213702-00213953 classic now one thousand dollar and the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00461-00213954-00214217 starting price of new PLC Ultima will
iOQbgYo2ihY-00462-00214217-00215863 become ten thousand dollar minimum
iOQbgYo2ihY-00463-00215864-00216313 and and uh this is absolutely for free
iOQbgYo2ihY-00464-00216314-00216658 nobody will be forced to swap this is
iOQbgYo2ihY-00465-00216659-00216958 not obligatory this is voluntary this
iOQbgYo2ihY-00466-00216959-00217175 you can swap and you cannot swap it's
iOQbgYo2ihY-00467-00217176-00217487 your decision it's only one thing do you
iOQbgYo2ihY-00468-00217488-00217792 want to sell your coins not 2 000 you
iOQbgYo2ihY-00469-00217794-00218021 want to sell to ten thousand and please
iOQbgYo2ihY-00470-00218021-00218363 swap to Ultima if you don't want you can
iOQbgYo2ihY-00471-00218364-00218651 sell to pocu Classic don't no problem
iOQbgYo2ihY-00472-00218652-00218998 just sell everything no smoke and the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00473-00219000-00219365 game is over and by but by PLC Ultima
iOQbgYo2ihY-00474-00219366-00219815 everyone is swapping with golden rules
iOQbgYo2ihY-00475-00219816-00222689 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00476-00222690-00223042 uh just look on the green side on the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00477-00223044-00223463 left side
iOQbgYo2ihY-00478-00223464-00223606 uh
iOQbgYo2ihY-00479-00223607-00223771 uh
iOQbgYo2ihY-00480-00223771-00224213 green side left side so the green side
iOQbgYo2ihY-00481-00224214-00224501 is a pills you Classic this is
iOQbgYo2ihY-00482-00224502-00224848 absolutely free tradable on Exchange the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00483-00224850-00226037 price is one thousand dollars
iOQbgYo2ihY-00484-00226038-00226403 so and uh and just imagine you have 100
iOQbgYo2ihY-00485-00226404-00226721 pills you Classics in your wallet and if
iOQbgYo2ihY-00486-00226721-00227177 you sell everything that 2000 you will
iOQbgYo2ihY-00487-00227178-00227387 have in your pocket a thousand dollar
iOQbgYo2ihY-00488-00227388-00228617 and zero six in your wallet foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00489-00228617-00229060 for example but if you swap to the plcu
iOQbgYo2ihY-00490-00229061-00229327 you will have 100
iOQbgYo2ihY-00491-00229328-00229823 plcu coins but not immediately you will
iOQbgYo2ihY-00492-00229823-00230201 get it in five years
iOQbgYo2ihY-00493-00230202-00230663 okay so uh
iOQbgYo2ihY-00494-00230664-00231673 [Music]
iOQbgYo2ihY-00495-00231673-00232042 why five years because one year two
iOQbgYo2ihY-00496-00232044-00232308 years three foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00497-00232309-00232879 rule is done you get everything
iOQbgYo2ihY-00498-00232880-00233564 yeah
iOQbgYo2ihY-00499-00233565-00233808 [Music]
iOQbgYo2ihY-00500-00233809-00234173 and again this is not a must this is
iOQbgYo2ihY-00501-00234173-00234491 absolutely voluntary and free at
iOQbgYo2ihY-00502-00234492-00234731 everything everyone who want to do this
iOQbgYo2ihY-00503-00234732-00235060 doing this everyone who don't want to do
iOQbgYo2ihY-00504-00235061-00235277 this without doing this absolutely by
iOQbgYo2ihY-00505-00235278-00236227 you guys
iOQbgYo2ihY-00506-00236228-00236584 why somebody should swap because if you
iOQbgYo2ihY-00507-00236585-00236729 have hundred coins
iOQbgYo2ihY-00508-00236730-00237029 and you swap 200 if you have a hundred
iOQbgYo2ihY-00509-00237030-00237365 pocu classic and you swap to 100 plcu
iOQbgYo2ihY-00510-00237366-00237646 the price you'll see is ten thousand so
iOQbgYo2ihY-00511-00237648-00237953 you get two coins from 100 to percentage
iOQbgYo2ihY-00512-00237954-00238391 uh in the first year by 10 000 it's 20
iOQbgYo2ihY-00513-00238392-00238613 000 what you put in the pocket and you
iOQbgYo2ihY-00514-00238614-00238960 still have 98 000 in your wallet
iOQbgYo2ihY-00515-00238961-00239453 wallet
iOQbgYo2ihY-00516-00239454-00240169 so uh 100 uh 100 coins
iOQbgYo2ihY-00517-00240171-00240882 [Music]
iOQbgYo2ihY-00518-00240883-00241192 in the second year you have five Pocus
iOQbgYo2ihY-00519-00241194-00241589 to ten thousand it's fifty thousand and
iOQbgYo2ihY-00520-00241590-00242032 you earned already 20 plus 50 70 000 and
iOQbgYo2ihY-00521-00242033-00242484 you have 93 plcu still in your wallet
iOQbgYo2ihY-00522-00242485-00243785 or uh second uh yeah foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00523-00243786-00246019 [Music]
iOQbgYo2ihY-00524-00246019-00246491 this is this is a very good saving plan
iOQbgYo2ihY-00525-00246492-00246784 for your future and not only selling
iOQbgYo2ihY-00526-00246785-00247060 selling selling killing everything
iOQbgYo2ihY-00527-00247061-00247486 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00528-00247487-00249731 [Music]
iOQbgYo2ihY-00529-00249732-00250192 so and this is in in year number four
iOQbgYo2ihY-00530-00250194-00250492 you're earning 200 and in five
iOQbgYo2ihY-00531-00250494-00250823 additional 600 just count together
iOQbgYo2ihY-00532-00250823-00251237 they're swapping to pocu is much much
iOQbgYo2ihY-00533-00251238-00251656 more than only selling plcu classic
iOQbgYo2ihY-00534-00251657-00252313 or a swapping your PLC um
iOQbgYo2ihY-00535-00252314-00252641 uh plcu classic say
iOQbgYo2ihY-00536-00252642-00252953 and and this will be the minimum price
iOQbgYo2ihY-00537-00252954-00253282 it can be maybe 15 or 20. I don't know
iOQbgYo2ihY-00538-00253283-00253606 50 is everything is possible but minimum
iOQbgYo2ihY-00539-00253607-00253769 ten thousand
iOQbgYo2ihY-00540-00253769-00254555 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00541-00254556-00254921 and uh and why how I can I can guarantee
iOQbgYo2ihY-00542-00254921-00255221 this yeah but I I will push to the price
iOQbgYo2ihY-00543-00255221-00255455 because the number of coins on the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00544-00255456-00255706 Market's very low two percentage in the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00545-00255707-00256127 year this is 0.2 percentage a month this
iOQbgYo2ihY-00546-00256128-00256391 is absolutely easy to create 10 000
iOQbgYo2ihY-00547-00256392-00256601 price and higher
iOQbgYo2ihY-00548-00256602-00258334 order prices
iOQbgYo2ihY-00549-00258335-00258534 and this plan
iOQbgYo2ihY-00550-00258535-00259048 preparing us for the Drone chain Fork
iOQbgYo2ihY-00551-00259050-00259396 for one year we will achieve
iOQbgYo2ihY-00552-00259398-00259703 Supply shortage we will push like crazy
iOQbgYo2ihY-00553-00259704-00259901 burning and freezing
iOQbgYo2ihY-00554-00259902-00260158 we will bring all the people in the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00555-00260159-00260344 golden rules because everyone who's
iOQbgYo2ihY-00556-00260346-00260567 swapping is in five years has gone rule
iOQbgYo2ihY-00557-00260567-00260819 inside you can avoid this we will
iOQbgYo2ihY-00558-00260819-00261144 attract new user with 10 000 plus price
iOQbgYo2ihY-00559-00261146-00261442 and the price will growing because of
iOQbgYo2ihY-00560-00261444-00261773 very very very small amount of coins on
iOQbgYo2ihY-00561-00261773-00261869 the market
iOQbgYo2ihY-00563-00265157-00265613 and we will make our business very big
iOQbgYo2ihY-00564-00265614-00265984 very strong because we will we will make
iOQbgYo2ihY-00565-00265985-00266423 stronger than pocu x because everyone is
iOQbgYo2ihY-00566-00266424-00266729 now interesting to have a x form to
iOQbgYo2ihY-00567-00266730-00266956 multiply multiply multiply multiply
iOQbgYo2ihY-00568-00266957-00267323 multiply classic and then Swap and do
iOQbgYo2ihY-00569-00267324-00267653 extend by the by by the exiting
iOQbgYo2ihY-00570-00267654-00269110 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00571-00269111-00269441 so just an example if somebody has one
iOQbgYo2ihY-00572-00269442-00269717 plcu classic only one not 100 non-10
iOQbgYo2ihY-00573-00269718-00270017 only one what is a what is the best
iOQbgYo2ihY-00574-00270018-00270397 strategy
iOQbgYo2ihY-00575-00270398-00271001 plcu classical
iOQbgYo2ihY-00576-00271002-00271343 so this person can say uh Alex let me go
iOQbgYo2ihY-00577-00271344-00271739 I don't want to do anything I just sell
iOQbgYo2ihY-00578-00271740-00271955 my one pills you can seek on the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00579-00271956-00272429 exchange get my 1000 usdt see you I do
iOQbgYo2ihY-00580-00272430-00272747 my life and you do your life and exit
iOQbgYo2ihY-00581-00272748-00272956 I'm fine with this
iOQbgYo2ihY-00582-00272957-00274423 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00583-00274424-00274993 I will
iOQbgYo2ihY-00584-00274994-00275189 buy a form
iOQbgYo2ihY-00585-00275190-00275653 and 0.5 I I buy Poco X put in the form
iOQbgYo2ihY-00586-00275654-00276151 and create from 0.5 x x 6
iOQbgYo2ihY-00587-00276152-00276682 3.3 plcu classic new not one I will
iOQbgYo2ihY-00588-00276683-00276869 create three
iOQbgYo2ihY-00590-00280128-00281206 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00591-00281207-00281405 and this is crazy
iOQbgYo2ihY-00592-00281406-00281851 one plcu with the price and one thousand
iOQbgYo2ihY-00593-00281852-00282449 can create for people a value of 30
iOQbgYo2ihY-00594-00282450-00283543 000 and more
iOQbgYo2ihY-00595-00283544-00283925 foreign and this is only one upgrade if
iOQbgYo2ihY-00596-00283926-00284021 you make
iOQbgYo2ihY-00597-00284022-00284363 a PLC if you have PLC you put in the X
iOQbgYo2ihY-00598-00284364-00284663 thing and then getting then upgrade
iOQbgYo2ihY-00599-00284664-00284993 upload upgrade upload upgrade upload one
iOQbgYo2ihY-00600-00284994-00285089 year
iOQbgYo2ihY-00601-00285090-00285455 you can multiply this by five
iOQbgYo2ihY-00602-00285456-00287003 or yes
iOQbgYo2ihY-00603-00287004-00287327 and for the new customers the same if
iOQbgYo2ihY-00604-00287328-00287573 somebody has 10 000 usdt in the pocket
iOQbgYo2ihY-00605-00287574-00287813 and he is asking okay what I'm doing now
iOQbgYo2ihY-00606-00287814-00288125 I'm buying classic I'm swapping what I'm
iOQbgYo2ihY-00607-00288126-00288419 doing now we will say no no you buy
iOQbgYo2ihY-00608-00288420-00288769 classic and then you buy the X form
iOQbgYo2ihY-00609-00288770-00289282 create 30 yeah 30 yeah you buy 10 you'll
iOQbgYo2ihY-00610-00289283-00289606 see you go see five you you spent by the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00611-00289607-00290179 farm five in the form then uh and then X
iOQbgYo2ihY-00612-00290180-00290334 6.5
iOQbgYo2ihY-00613-00290335-00290663 and then you get 30 plus you class six
iOQbgYo2ihY-00614-00290664-00291029 this you're swapping and getting
iOQbgYo2ihY-00615-00291030-00291880 three hundred thousand years
iOQbgYo2ihY-00616-00291881-00293729 um
iOQbgYo2ihY-00617-00293730-00294197 and now these uh this uh splitting in
iOQbgYo2ihY-00618-00294198-00294532 two coins solving the main problem what
iOQbgYo2ihY-00619-00294533-00294875 we have now is it here is a huge fear
iOQbgYo2ihY-00620-00294876-00295193 and Scourge of the people that plcu can
iOQbgYo2ihY-00621-00295194-00296806 go down to 100.
iOQbgYo2ihY-00622-00296807-00297113 just imagine yeah the baddest
iOQbgYo2ihY-00623-00297114-00297371 imagination but just for a moment the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00624-00297372-00297737 plcu classic will go down to 100 what do
iOQbgYo2ihY-00625-00297738-00297965 you think will happen here
iOQbgYo2ihY-00626-00297966-00298201 or just imagine
iOQbgYo2ihY-00627-00298202-00298630 plcu classic hundred dollars
iOQbgYo2ihY-00628-00298631-00299008 people will take usdt and buy not 10
iOQbgYo2ihY-00629-00299009-00299327 pills you classic they will buy 100
iOQbgYo2ihY-00630-00299328-00299705 plcu classic and then they swapping one
iOQbgYo2ihY-00631-00299706-00299945 to one to 100 plcu
iOQbgYo2ihY-00632-00299946-00300293 and then they have the million then they
iOQbgYo2ihY-00633-00300294-00300605 have they're not ex exerted they have x
iOQbgYo2ihY-00634-00300606-00300845 x 100
iOQbgYo2ihY-00635-00300846-00301105 or uh just imagine
iOQbgYo2ihY-00636-00301106-00302629 PLC classic 100.
iOQbgYo2ihY-00637-00302630-00302939 and the big thing is if people
iOQbgYo2ihY-00638-00302940-00303358 understand that this strategy making
iOQbgYo2ihY-00639-00303359-00303629 plcu the old one yep you'll see you
iOQbgYo2ihY-00640-00303630-00303917 classic now just Immortal doesn't matter
iOQbgYo2ihY-00641-00303918-00304151 what the price is there is enough
iOQbgYo2ihY-00642-00304152-00304439 capital and enough money to buy
iOQbgYo2ihY-00643-00304440-00304984 everything and swap it to x 10 x 100 x
iOQbgYo2ihY-00644-00304985-00305153 thousand
iOQbgYo2ihY-00645-00305154-00307963 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00646-00307964-00308249 ERS will be attacked right now by SEC
iOQbgYo2ihY-00647-00308250-00308519 coinbase will be attacked after X is
iOQbgYo2ihY-00648-00308520-00308837 already dead the Bitcoin is crashing the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00649-00308838-00309071 people think a crypto winter is coming
iOQbgYo2ihY-00650-00309072-00309347 we are so beautiful projects we are so
iOQbgYo2ihY-00651-00309348-00309551 beautiful queen beautiful Community we
iOQbgYo2ihY-00652-00309552-00309797 can't die beautiful I Will Never Let Die
iOQbgYo2ihY-00653-00309798-00310241 uh as beautiful we go straight to the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00654-00310242-00310456 goal and achieve everything
iOQbgYo2ihY-00655-00310457-00310873 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00656-00310874-00313103 [Music]
iOQbgYo2ihY-00657-00313104-00313319 I don't care what the on the crypto
iOQbgYo2ihY-00658-00313320-00313606 Market happening we have to take care
iOQbgYo2ihY-00659-00313607-00313829 about our community about our people
iOQbgYo2ihY-00660-00313830-00314110 that everyone is in profit everyone is
iOQbgYo2ihY-00661-00314111-00314321 happy everyone everyone earning money
iOQbgYo2ihY-00662-00314322-00314621 and with that we can work next 10 years
iOQbgYo2ihY-00663-00314622-00315029 and nothing happened and this is uh
iOQbgYo2ihY-00664-00315030-00315269 nothing bad can happen to us and this is
iOQbgYo2ihY-00665-00315270-00315623 my answer very aggressive answer I know
iOQbgYo2ihY-00666-00315624-00316091 but this strategy will be will will uh
iOQbgYo2ihY-00667-00316092-00316349 jump us on completely new level
iOQbgYo2ihY-00668-00316350-00318625 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00669-00318626-00318941 for only for one year because we have to
iOQbgYo2ihY-00670-00318942-00319229 train our community we have to install
iOQbgYo2ihY-00671-00319230-00319506 uh golden rules we have to create
iOQbgYo2ihY-00672-00319507-00319823 deficit and shortage burning freezing
iOQbgYo2ihY-00673-00319824-00320027 everything and we have to increase the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00674-00320028-00320291 price before the big boom coming Before
iOQbgYo2ihY-00675-00320292-00320573 the Throne chain four coming because
iOQbgYo2ihY-00676-00320574-00320921 after the throne chain is there guys we
iOQbgYo2ihY-00677-00320922-00321208 are on the best Global level what we
iOQbgYo2ihY-00678-00321209-00321401 just can imagine right now
iOQbgYo2ihY-00679-00321402-00324199 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00680-00324200-00324756 to
iOQbgYo2ihY-00681-00324757-00325127 be one of the top 10 coins
iOQbgYo2ihY-00682-00325128-00325734 top 10 coins of the world
iOQbgYo2ihY-00683-00325735-00326467 Total Domination strategy or is
iOQbgYo2ihY-00684-00326468-00327130 three years
iOQbgYo2ihY-00685-00327131-00327556 so and I will ask Igor now to do a live
iOQbgYo2ihY-00686-00327557-00327743 demonstration because this is not only
iOQbgYo2ihY-00687-00327744-00328013 the plan it's already done
iOQbgYo2ihY-00688-00328014-00328306 it's already done and we start by
iOQbgYo2ihY-00689-00328307-00328601 tomorrow okay we started today and
iOQbgYo2ihY-00690-00328602-00328901 yesterday but the main work will start
iOQbgYo2ihY-00691-00328902-00329243 tomorrow and now you can see by Igor
iOQbgYo2ihY-00692-00329244-00329567 eager please take over and show
iOQbgYo2ihY-00693-00329568-00329873 everything what people have to wait in
iOQbgYo2ihY-00694-00329874-00330221 the next days and weeks
iOQbgYo2ihY-00695-00330222-00332165 uh
iOQbgYo2ihY-00696-00332166-00332779 um
iOQbgYo2ihY-00697-00332780-00333004 thank you very much Alex thank you very
iOQbgYo2ihY-00698-00333005-00333347 much samit hello hello everyone how are
iOQbgYo2ihY-00699-00333348-00333797 you I hope you are very very well so
iOQbgYo2ihY-00700-00333798-00334030 Summit we should wait some time for
iOQbgYo2ihY-00701-00334031-00334330 loading screen when it will be done
iOQbgYo2ihY-00702-00334331-00334637 please say and we will start
iOQbgYo2ihY-00703-00334638-00335165 calculator
iOQbgYo2ihY-00704-00335166-00335771 so now it's loading
iOQbgYo2ihY-00705-00335772-00336184 hello India how are you please
iOQbgYo2ihY-00706-00336185-00336467 hello Mr Igor
iOQbgYo2ihY-00707-00336468-00336725 so guys do you see this picture
iOQbgYo2ihY-00708-00336726-00336851 yes
iOQbgYo2ihY-00709-00336852-00337097 okay perfect so guys let me introduce
iOQbgYo2ihY-00710-00337098-00337373 our new site POC Ultima it's of course
iOQbgYo2ihY-00711-00337374-00337656 with a new design
iOQbgYo2ihY-00712-00337657-00338147 my new site PLC Ultima is
iOQbgYo2ihY-00713-00338148-00338399 yes submit new animation new wedding
iOQbgYo2ihY-00714-00338400-00338723 page and the most interesting of course
iOQbgYo2ihY-00715-00338724-00339853 inside our back office
iOQbgYo2ihY-00716-00339854-00340063 Google
iOQbgYo2ihY-00717-00340064-00340517 just a second please
iOQbgYo2ihY-00718-00340518-00340925 so Summit look we have our swapping
iOQbgYo2ihY-00719-00340926-00341206 units and swapping dashboard inside our
iOQbgYo2ihY-00720-00341207-00342469 back office on POC Ultima foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00721-00342470-00342917 State stand but uh don't worry it will
iOQbgYo2ihY-00722-00342918-00343151 be ready it will be done in production
iOQbgYo2ihY-00723-00343152-00343408 very soon and now and after this
iOQbgYo2ihY-00724-00343409-00343660 demonstration I will show you the new
iOQbgYo2ihY-00725-00343661-00344003 site for pocuc and blockchain Explorer
iOQbgYo2ihY-00726-00344004-00346008 for pocuc
iOQbgYo2ihY-00727-00346009-00346427 we have
iOQbgYo2ihY-00728-00346428-00346943 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00729-00346944-00347363 yes we can swap our plcu classic coin to
iOQbgYo2ihY-00730-00347364-00347856 PLC Ultima coin
iOQbgYo2ihY-00731-00347857-00348287 uh PLC uh classic coin to PLC Ultima
iOQbgYo2ihY-00732-00348288-00348580 nice design and local amount of the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00733-00348581-00348799 swapping coins
iOQbgYo2ihY-00734-00348800-00349291 0.01 and the highest unit it's 1 000
iOQbgYo2ihY-00735-00349292-00349463 pocu
iOQbgYo2ihY-00736-00349464-00349940 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00737-00349941-00352493 [Music]
iOQbgYo2ihY-00738-00352494-00352804 one by one
iOQbgYo2ihY-00739-00352805-00353369 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00740-00353370-00353608 yes we have prepared for you information
iOQbgYo2ihY-00741-00353609-00353921 how it works so you can see you can find
iOQbgYo2ihY-00742-00353922-00354184 information how it works on your back
iOQbgYo2ihY-00743-00354185-00354310 office
iOQbgYo2ihY-00744-00354311-00354887 information
iOQbgYo2ihY-00745-00354888-00355325 and of course it translated to Hindi
iOQbgYo2ihY-00746-00355326-00355780 just a second please yes
iOQbgYo2ihY-00747-00355781-00356765 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00748-00356766-00356999 so guys and look to our new dashboard
iOQbgYo2ihY-00749-00357000-00357613 for swapping units for swapping coins
iOQbgYo2ihY-00750-00357614-00357965 swapping units or swapping plans
iOQbgYo2ihY-00751-00357966-00358210 imagine you purchase the swapping units
iOQbgYo2ihY-00752-00358211-00358571 for one POC Ultima I have two on my
iOQbgYo2ihY-00753-00358572-00358732 example
iOQbgYo2ihY-00754-00358733-00359201 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00755-00359202-00359573 for our convenient calculation I use the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00756-00359574-00360058 one pocu amount for one pocu uu coin
iOQbgYo2ihY-00757-00360059-00360743 or examples
iOQbgYo2ihY-00758-00360744-00361054 and all needed information is presented
iOQbgYo2ihY-00759-00361055-00361354 on these widgets and you can open
iOQbgYo2ihY-00760-00361355-00361708 details and you can see how many coins
iOQbgYo2ihY-00761-00361709-00362003 you will receive for first year for
iOQbgYo2ihY-00762-00362004-00362356 second year third first and fix
iOQbgYo2ihY-00763-00362357-00362911 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00764-00362912-00363527 [Music]
iOQbgYo2ihY-00765-00363528-00363649 [Music]
iOQbgYo2ihY-00766-00363650-00363899 to your available balance immediately
iOQbgYo2ihY-00767-00363900-00364127 after purchase immediately after unit
iOQbgYo2ihY-00768-00364128-00364277 activation
iOQbgYo2ihY-00769-00364278-00365056 uh
iOQbgYo2ihY-00770-00365057-00365401 each year contained 12
iOQbgYo2ihY-00771-00365402-00365656 transferred towels meetings or not
iOQbgYo2ihY-00772-00365657-00366025 meeting swapping transaction
iOQbgYo2ihY-00773-00366026-00366419 transaction here yet 12 minting uh 12
iOQbgYo2ihY-00774-00366420-00366551 minting
iOQbgYo2ihY-00775-00366552-00366749 not meeting Summit swapping swapping and
iOQbgYo2ihY-00776-00366750-00366875 swapping
iOQbgYo2ihY-00777-00366876-00367199 but this is coming in 12 parts right
iOQbgYo2ihY-00778-00367200-00367787 uh 12 times per year your coin
iOQbgYo2ihY-00779-00367788-00368147 swap to Ultima okay so
iOQbgYo2ihY-00780-00368148-00369071 um
iOQbgYo2ihY-00781-00369072-00369353 as Alex said you will receive the two
iOQbgYo2ihY-00782-00369354-00369556 percentage for one for for the first
iOQbgYo2ihY-00783-00369557-00369899 year look it's two percentage and we
iOQbgYo2ihY-00784-00369900-00370439 have 12 transaction of this amount
iOQbgYo2ihY-00785-00370440-00370765 um
iOQbgYo2ihY-00786-00370766-00371153 12 transactions open
iOQbgYo2ihY-00787-00371154-00371537 and you can make the payout from the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00788-00371538-00371897 payout just easy way how you can pay out
iOQbgYo2ihY-00789-00371898-00372215 your coins in your uh easy way just
iOQbgYo2ihY-00790-00372216-00372521 click on payout button and payout flow
iOQbgYo2ihY-00791-00372522-00372737 just started
iOQbgYo2ihY-00792-00372738-00373975 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00793-00373976-00374363 special for your swapped coins it's not
iOQbgYo2ihY-00794-00374364-00374632 your platin world payout it's just for
iOQbgYo2ihY-00795-00374633-00375071 your swap swap coins you swap classic to
iOQbgYo2ihY-00796-00375072-00376175 new Ultima is
iOQbgYo2ihY-00797-00376176-00376445 and of course all transaction you can
iOQbgYo2ihY-00798-00376446-00376915 copy link address you can check in in
iOQbgYo2ihY-00799-00376916-00377447 Explorer blockchain Explorer
iOQbgYo2ihY-00800-00377448-00377904 is
iOQbgYo2ihY-00801-00377905-00378060 transactions
iOQbgYo2ihY-00802-00378061-00378358 and look Sami this is the Explorer for
iOQbgYo2ihY-00803-00378359-00378647 new Ultima it's not for current it's not
iOQbgYo2ihY-00804-00378648-00378851 for Classic this is the Explorer for new
iOQbgYo2ihY-00805-00378852-00378965 Ultima
iOQbgYo2ihY-00806-00378966-00379282 and look on the prefixes we have
iOQbgYo2ihY-00807-00379283-00379660 different prefixes in our wallets a for
iOQbgYo2ihY-00808-00379661-00379993 your for for your wallets first of all
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iOQbgYo2ihY-00811-00380664-00381199 the new Ultima coin yes Sirens yes okay
iOQbgYo2ihY-00812-00381200-00382115 blockchain uh prefixes
iOQbgYo2ihY-00813-00382116-00382510 but if we open the uh now this is
iOQbgYo2ihY-00814-00382511-00382780 something this information when we I I
iOQbgYo2ihY-00815-00382781-00383069 think we will start we're going to start
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iOQbgYo2ihY-00819-00384107-00384503 works and we shoot down all our systems
iOQbgYo2ihY-00820-00384504-00384803 so our our books our site will be
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iOQbgYo2ihY-00822-00385068-00385295 complete our splitting we should
iOQbgYo2ihY-00823-00385296-00385632 complete all our tasks by with checklist
iOQbgYo2ihY-00824-00385633-00386093 to complete this really big work with
iOQbgYo2ihY-00825-00386094-00386447 splitting and swapping Ultima classic
iOQbgYo2ihY-00826-00386448-00386693 ultimate to new Ultima
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iOQbgYo2ihY-00833-00390594-00390910 what else you classic uh website
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iOQbgYo2ihY-00835-00392072-00392387 application new mobile application yes
iOQbgYo2ihY-00836-00392388-00392632 because uh if you talk about our
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iOQbgYo2ihY-00838-00392940-00393113 it could you check it right now please
iOQbgYo2ihY-00839-00393114-00393437 open does it matter wallet or Farm
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iOQbgYo2ihY-00845-00394979-00395239 uh 3.0 in iOS
iOQbgYo2ihY-00846-00395240-00395543 oh so congratulations Summit now you
iOQbgYo2ihY-00847-00395544-00395869 have absolutely correct absolutely
iOQbgYo2ihY-00848-00395870-00396256 uh good version and this version now is
iOQbgYo2ihY-00849-00396257-00396593 support the Ultima classic and new
iOQbgYo2ihY-00850-00396594-00396904 Ultima just you can wait and one time
iOQbgYo2ihY-00851-00396905-00397169 when you open the application you will
iOQbgYo2ihY-00852-00397170-00397456 see absolutely new Incredible design and
iOQbgYo2ihY-00853-00397457-00397673 you coin inside
iOQbgYo2ihY-00854-00397674-00398045 okay so uh Joe
iOQbgYo2ihY-00855-00398046-00398293 version
iOQbgYo2ihY-00856-00398294-00399395 3.0 iOS version uh new version here
iOQbgYo2ihY-00857-00399396-00399791 Summit and it's not only for iOS it's
iOQbgYo2ihY-00858-00399792-00400117 available for Android
iOQbgYo2ihY-00859-00400118-00400506 and I use wallet and form now we have
iOQbgYo2ihY-00860-00400507-00400852 3.0 version of our application and it's
iOQbgYo2ihY-00861-00400853-00401208 already ready for new coin
iOQbgYo2ihY-00862-00401209-00401725 or a joke new version
iOQbgYo2ihY-00863-00401726-00402497 3.0 Android or iOS
iOQbgYo2ihY-00864-00402498-00402778 and this is Summits uh when you
iOQbgYo2ihY-00865-00402779-00403115 blockchain Explorer for our plcu classic
iOQbgYo2ihY-00866-00403116-00403463 coin
iOQbgYo2ihY-00867-00403464-00403865 so yeah new blockchain Explorer plcu
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iOQbgYo2ihY-00869-00404250-00404477 is a real blockchain Explorer with a
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iOQbgYo2ihY-00876-00407226-00407447 check the FTX you can check their type
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iOQbgYo2ihY-00878-00407729-00408058 information about our network uh under
iOQbgYo2ihY-00879-00408059-00408365 attacking and the best solution the best
iOQbgYo2ihY-00880-00408366-00408743 solution to create our Target to go our
iOQbgYo2ihY-00881-00408744-00409025 Rich to achieve our targets to achieve
iOQbgYo2ihY-00882-00409026-00409402 our goals uh we then this absolutely
iOQbgYo2ihY-00883-00409403-00409660 incredible work for our community for
iOQbgYo2ihY-00884-00409662-00409991 you for your leaders uh for us for
iOQbgYo2ihY-00885-00409992-00410170 better life and of course for our top
iOQbgYo2ihY-00886-00410171-00412884 ranking can coin market cap
iOQbgYo2ihY-00887-00412885-00413159 look look we have updated our back
iOQbgYo2ihY-00888-00413160-00413459 office in platin world and you can see
iOQbgYo2ihY-00889-00413460-00413770 absolutely new widgets with New Balances
iOQbgYo2ihY-00890-00413771-00414813 inside
iOQbgYo2ihY-00891-00414814-00415807 [Music]
iOQbgYo2ihY-00892-00415808-00416189 we have two tab for one balance pocu X
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iOQbgYo2ihY-00895-00417066-00417382 and of course we I can show you
iOQbgYo2ihY-00896-00417383-00417682 information in Ultimate hashback look
iOQbgYo2ihY-00897-00417683-00417947 how many work how many tasks how many
iOQbgYo2ihY-00898-00417947-00418120 features we have done yeah
iOQbgYo2ihY-00899-00418121-00418445 uh platin World Ultima Ultima classic
iOQbgYo2ihY-00900-00418446-00418739 cashback Ultima cash backlog in if you
iOQbgYo2ihY-00901-00418739-00418966 open the Ultima cashback side you can
iOQbgYo2ihY-00902-00418967-00419201 see the default wallet for cashback it's
iOQbgYo2ihY-00903-00419202-00419581 already POC you see
iOQbgYo2ihY-00904-00419582-00420005 ultimate cashback website already PLC
iOQbgYo2ihY-00905-00420006-00420460 here okay the prefix is U2 X right yes
iOQbgYo2ihY-00906-00420462-00420910 because U2 X its current Ultima new one
iOQbgYo2ihY-00907-00420912-00421133 it's you one
iOQbgYo2ihY-00908-00421134-00421325 okay
iOQbgYo2ihY-00909-00421326-00422027 so um
iOQbgYo2ihY-00910-00422028-00422327 but don't worry don't worry if you worry
iOQbgYo2ihY-00911-00422328-00422603 about updates please Summit don't worry
iOQbgYo2ihY-00912-00422604-00422968 all your coins in safety uh if you have
iOQbgYo2ihY-00913-00422969-00423281 your private uh okay or if you have a
iOQbgYo2ihY-00914-00423282-00423629 mnemonic phrase don't be afraid for
iOQbgYo2ihY-00915-00423630-00423814 losing coins
iOQbgYo2ihY-00916-00423815-00424079 it's yours and it's insane in full
iOQbgYo2ihY-00917-00424080-00425447 safety please don't be scared and uh
iOQbgYo2ihY-00918-00425447-00425735 yes and one time maybe it will be in few
iOQbgYo2ihY-00919-00425735-00425957 days in one time when you open the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00920-00425958-00426263 application you can see the Green Card
iOQbgYo2ihY-00921-00426264-00426618 the green side with uh the application
iOQbgYo2ihY-00922-00426619-00426966 uh oh it's a old pictures
iOQbgYo2ihY-00923-00426967-00427414 uh just a second please I opened the old
iOQbgYo2ihY-00924-00427415-00427570 team um
iOQbgYo2ihY-00925-00427571-00427883 classic
iOQbgYo2ihY-00926-00427884-00428099 just a slip and Summit I want to show
iOQbgYo2ihY-00927-00428100-00428489 you Optima classic
iOQbgYo2ihY-00928-00428489-00429341 yes
iOQbgYo2ihY-00929-00429342-00429563 application
iOQbgYo2ihY-00930-00429564-00429964 so in one day when you open there your
iOQbgYo2ihY-00931-00429965-00430325 mobile application you find the new
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iOQbgYo2ihY-00934-00431330-00432091 applications
iOQbgYo2ihY-00935-00432092-00432331 what does it mean
iOQbgYo2ihY-00936-00432332-00432697 all your current Ultima coins
iOQbgYo2ihY-00937-00432697-00433072 all our all your current Ultima coins
iOQbgYo2ihY-00938-00433073-00433595 pocu will be available on pocu classic
iOQbgYo2ihY-00939-00433596-00433985 cart plcu classic balance all your
iOQbgYo2ihY-00940-00433985-00434351 history will be not PLC Ultima but it
iOQbgYo2ihY-00941-00434352-00434681 will be plcuc transaction and pocuc
iOQbgYo2ihY-00942-00434682-00434818 balance
iOQbgYo2ihY-00943-00434819-00435839 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00944-00435839-00436222 all connections with our blockchain pocu
iOQbgYo2ihY-00945-00436223-00436337 X
iOQbgYo2ihY-00946-00436338-00436781 s is so it means that you should pay
iOQbgYo2ihY-00947-00436782-00437081 guest transaction for pocu X transaction
iOQbgYo2ihY-00948-00437082-00437591 in plcu classic not in POC Ultima so up
iOQbgYo2ihY-00949-00437592-00437807 your guest transaction linkage or
iOQbgYo2ihY-00950-00437808-00438301 transaction fees
iOQbgYo2ihY-00951-00438302-00438664 so and it means if you have if you have
iOQbgYo2ihY-00952-00438665-00438977 your Ultima Farm your Ultima Minter
iOQbgYo2ihY-00953-00438978-00439264 right now with free and available Max
iOQbgYo2ihY-00954-00439265-00439679 slot you can create a smart contract for
iOQbgYo2ihY-00955-00439680-00439966 plcu classic after update
iOQbgYo2ihY-00956-00439967-00441091 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00957-00441092-00441316 I think this is a really big information
iOQbgYo2ihY-00958-00441317-00441575 this is a lot of information and I hope
iOQbgYo2ihY-00959-00441576-00441875 you like it I hope you enjoy it so
iOQbgYo2ihY-00960-00441876-00442210 please give me the feedback and I stop
iOQbgYo2ihY-00961-00442212-00442468 my screen sharing and I need information
iOQbgYo2ihY-00962-00442469-00442768 I need feedback about your guys do you
iOQbgYo2ihY-00963-00442769-00442943 like it maybe you have some additional
iOQbgYo2ihY-00964-00442943-00443566 questions
iOQbgYo2ihY-00965-00443567-00444143 [Music]
iOQbgYo2ihY-00966-00444143-00444391 [Music]
iOQbgYo2ihY-00967-00444392-00444797 the speed of implementation of you and
iOQbgYo2ihY-00968-00444797-00445157 your team and Alex team is so crazy uh
iOQbgYo2ihY-00969-00445158-00445372 no no one can just think of something
iOQbgYo2ihY-00970-00445373-00445522 like this and you have just created
iOQbgYo2ihY-00971-00445523-00445739 blockchain you have created website you
iOQbgYo2ihY-00972-00445739-00446051 have created the application update this
iOQbgYo2ihY-00973-00446052-00446363 is so crazy like we cannot just imagine
iOQbgYo2ihY-00974-00446364-00446579 that this is going on and you have
iOQbgYo2ihY-00975-00446580-00446909 created everything so quick so fast we
iOQbgYo2ihY-00976-00446910-00447107 do own best something special for us
iOQbgYo2ihY-00977-00447108-00447418 because we have a really good targets we
iOQbgYo2ihY-00978-00447419-00447607 have a really good aims and we should
iOQbgYo2ihY-00979-00447608-00447922 achieve it and all what we've done all
iOQbgYo2ihY-00980-00447923-00448259 what we do it's really for our own goals
iOQbgYo2ihY-00981-00448260-00448637 to be to to reach the number of coin
iOQbgYo2ihY-00982-00448638-00448877 market cap to number of all crypto
iOQbgYo2ihY-00983-00448878-00449183 Community to share our technology to
iOQbgYo2ihY-00984-00449184-00449399 share to to share our goal our mission
iOQbgYo2ihY-00985-00449400-00449543 for everywhere
iOQbgYo2ihY-00986-00449543-00451510 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-00987-00451512-00451763 thank you Igor thank you very much thank
iOQbgYo2ihY-00988-00451764-00451897 you guys
iOQbgYo2ihY-00989-00451897-00452297 eager and uh
iOQbgYo2ihY-00990-00452297-00452629 I I just want to tell you guys if you
iOQbgYo2ihY-00991-00452630-00452999 supporting me if you following if we
iOQbgYo2ihY-00992-00453000-00453383 will make this strategy live and real
iOQbgYo2ihY-00993-00453384-00453779 and people will just explore the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00994-00453780-00454013 business will explode yeah the success
iOQbgYo2ihY-00995-00454014-00454337 will explode in only one year we have to
iOQbgYo2ihY-00996-00454338-00454577 prepare all the community for the fork
iOQbgYo2ihY-00997-00454578-00454781 to the throne chain because after this
iOQbgYo2ihY-00998-00454782-00455075 we are Global coin we are top of the
iOQbgYo2ihY-00999-00455076-00455387 tops and in this year we have a lot of
iOQbgYo2ihY-01000-00455388-00455609 work but it will be absolutely
iOQbgYo2ihY-01001-00455610-00455914 incredible funny with a lot of huge
iOQbgYo2ihY-01002-00455915-00456275 business with a huge successes and we
iOQbgYo2ihY-01003-00456276-00456505 just need to do one thing we have to
iOQbgYo2ihY-01004-00456506-00456827 rock the market we have to work like
iOQbgYo2ihY-01005-00456828-00457109 crazy one year full gas and you will see
iOQbgYo2ihY-01006-00457110-00457349 the Ultima on the different universe
iOQbgYo2ihY-01007-00457350-00459043 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-01008-00459045-00460187 [Music]
iOQbgYo2ihY-01009-00460188-00461214 [Music]
iOQbgYo2ihY-01010-00461215-00461614 absolutely yes we have to defeat now the
iOQbgYo2ihY-01011-00461615-00461766 coin Market camp
iOQbgYo2ihY-01012-00461767-00462185 this is the one biggest enemy now but uh
iOQbgYo2ihY-01013-00462185-00462479 we will achieve everything guys we will
iOQbgYo2ihY-01014-00462480-00462760 achieve everything because we will never
iOQbgYo2ihY-01015-00462762-00462989 give up we will never lose because
iOQbgYo2ihY-01016-00462989-00463283 losing is giving up we will never never
iOQbgYo2ihY-01017-00463284-00463549 give up
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iOQbgYo2ihY-01022-00467519-00467818 stable more transparent more stronger
iOQbgYo2ihY-01023-00467819-00468113 more liquidity more demand everyone is
iOQbgYo2ihY-01024-00468114-00468425 clear hey I have to go on the X to
iOQbgYo2ihY-01025-00468426-00468772 increase the classic to swap to extend
iOQbgYo2ihY-01026-00468773-00469133 and to earn good money
iOQbgYo2ihY-01027-00469134-00470633 yes
iOQbgYo2ihY-01028-00470634-00471010 so I see you like everything we will we
iOQbgYo2ihY-01029-00471012-00471245 should make some just prepare your
iOQbgYo2ihY-01030-00471246-00471449 question let's make the next call to
iOQbgYo2ihY-01031-00471450-00471749 educate that let the system start then
iOQbgYo2ihY-01032-00471750-00471995 you will see how it works but for the
iOQbgYo2ihY-01033-00471996-00472301 business nothing changed our business is
iOQbgYo2ihY-01034-00472302-00472607 pocu X form our business is to create
iOQbgYo2ihY-01035-00472608-00472997 the community the same the plcu x is
iOQbgYo2ihY-01036-00472997-00473351 right now after this after this strategy
iOQbgYo2ihY-01037-00473352-00473675 is more stronger more stable more
iOQbgYo2ihY-01038-00473676-00474010 popular molecule liquid and so far yeah
iOQbgYo2ihY-01039-00474012-00474335 this is absolutely super powerful we'll
iOQbgYo2ihY-01040-00474335-00474485 see X
iOQbgYo2ihY-01041-00474485-00475572 or plcu X strategy path uh
iOQbgYo2ihY-01042-00475573-00475925 demand or liquidity
iOQbgYo2ihY-01043-00475926-00476272 thank you thank you guys I I am
iOQbgYo2ihY-01044-00476273-00476651 absolutely happy that you was there with
iOQbgYo2ihY-01045-00476652-00476993 me in this call and let's do it let's
iOQbgYo2ihY-01046-00476993-00477407 rock the market let's rock them all
iOQbgYo2ihY-01047-00477408-00478447 foreign
iOQbgYo2ihY-01048-00478449-00478775 [Music]
iOQbgYo2ihY-01049-00478776-00479009 thank you and see you next webinar
iOQbgYo2ihY-01050-00479010-00479303 prepare your questions and let's make
iOQbgYo2ihY-01051-00479304-00479518 some education this video you will get
iOQbgYo2ihY-01052-00479519-00479807 on YouTube and then you can share it to
iOQbgYo2ihY-01053-00479808-00480047 your community it was very important for
iOQbgYo2ihY-01054-00480047-00480305 me that you will know uh at the first
iOQbgYo2ihY-01055-00480306-00480575 all the information to get your feedback
iOQbgYo2ihY-01056-00480576-00480893 and I see everyone is on fire everyone
iOQbgYo2ihY-01057-00480893-00481253 is just burning eyes here I see the best
iOQbgYo2ihY-01058-00481254-00481564 feedbacks what I ever heard and thank
iOQbgYo2ihY-01059-00481565-00482063 you thank you thank you so much
iOQbgYo2ihY-01060-00482064-00484301 um
iOQbgYo2ihY-01061-00484302-00484570 thank you bye bye thank you thank you
iOQbgYo2ihY-01062-00484571-00484847 very much Mr Alex and thank you for this
iOQbgYo2ihY-01063-00484847-00485237 uh summer in PLC Ultima again thank you
iOQbgYo2ihY-01064-00485238-00485501 very much for the strategy we'll we'll
iOQbgYo2ihY-01065-00485502-00485789 meet in next couple of days with uh all
iOQbgYo2ihY-01066-00485789-00486149 the questions and uh we'll uh do the
iOQbgYo2ihY-01067-00486150-00486497 education part also uh with with all the
iOQbgYo2ihY-01068-00486497-00486664 leaders thank you very much for this
iOQbgYo2ihY-01069-00486665-00489360 webinar thank you thank you guys bye bye
iOQbgYo2ihY-01070-00489362-00490975 [Music]
iOQbgYo2ihY-01071-00490976-00491249 thank you so very much for yours
iOQbgYo2ihY-01072-00491250-00491477 precious time
iOQbgYo2ihY-01073-00491478-00491780 the time is now
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iQbH6iTpbhE-00008-00001575-00001759 wants to get it anymore we pursue
iQbH6iTpbhE-00009-00001760-00002271 excellence
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iQbH6iTpbhE-00016-00003839-00004031 bless you allow the word of god to
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iQbH6iTpbhE-00019-00004496-00004638 i haven't said this in a while i'm gonna
iQbH6iTpbhE-00020-00004639-00004919 say it don't come as you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00021-00004920-00005199 are okay leave a new person yes you know
iQbH6iTpbhE-00022-00005200-00005447 when you go to a beauty shop
iQbH6iTpbhE-00023-00005448-00005638 your hair might be all out of whack you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00024-00005639-00005838 know but when you come out man you're
iQbH6iTpbhE-00025-00005839-00005983 going to be different
iQbH6iTpbhE-00026-00005984-00006167 when you come sit before god and hear
iQbH6iTpbhE-00027-00006168-00006343 the word of god
iQbH6iTpbhE-00028-00006344-00006583 leave change amen he wants you to be
iQbH6iTpbhE-00029-00006584-00006751 changed when you spend time with him on
iQbH6iTpbhE-00030-00006752-00006983 a daily basis before you hit the world
iQbH6iTpbhE-00031-00006984-00007127 yeah
iQbH6iTpbhE-00032-00007128-00007359 i want to build myself up in him so
iQbH6iTpbhE-00033-00007359-00007574 nobody can pull me down you know when i
iQbH6iTpbhE-00034-00007575-00007814 leave my house i have peace about me i
iQbH6iTpbhE-00035-00007815-00008031 have joy about me don't let nobody come
iQbH6iTpbhE-00036-00008031-00008174 and steal your joy
iQbH6iTpbhE-00037-00008175-00008799 they mean bringing me
iQbH6iTpbhE-00038-00008800-00009006 because they tried anything and
iQbH6iTpbhE-00039-00009007-00009278 everything to pull you down and you kept
iQbH6iTpbhE-00040-00009279-00009495 on smiling and you kept on going you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00041-00009496-00009631 know what
iQbH6iTpbhE-00042-00009632-00009823 the wealthy people
iQbH6iTpbhE-00043-00009824-00010063 are going to be ugly and you don't have
iQbH6iTpbhE-00044-00010064-00010238 to be like them
iQbH6iTpbhE-00045-00010239-00010327 be
iQbH6iTpbhE-00046-00010328-00010606 christ-like let the love and compassion
iQbH6iTpbhE-00047-00010607-00010823 of god flow through you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00048-00010824-00010983 when they try their best to pull you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00049-00010984-00011174 down and you kept going and you said hi
iQbH6iTpbhE-00050-00011175-00011438 to them and you love them because
iQbH6iTpbhE-00051-00011439-00011663 you're a child of god
iQbH6iTpbhE-00052-00011664-00011919 it's going to change them it's going to
iQbH6iTpbhE-00053-00011920-00012159 make a man still it's going to make them
iQbH6iTpbhE-00054-00012160-00012367 change amen they're going to have to
iQbH6iTpbhE-00055-00012368-00012503 change but you know why because there's
iQbH6iTpbhE-00056-00012504-00012767 a seed there's seeds salt in there
iQbH6iTpbhE-00057-00012768-00013007 words of seeds and we're selling good
iQbH6iTpbhE-00058-00013008-00013351 seed not bad seed amen so praise god so
iQbH6iTpbhE-00059-00013352-00013558 lord's not finished with you say that
iQbH6iTpbhE-00060-00013559-00013751 lord's not finished with me
iQbH6iTpbhE-00061-00013752-00013958 as long as you're here god wants to use
iQbH6iTpbhE-00062-00013959-00014199 you don't disqualify yourself like the
iQbH6iTpbhE-00063-00014200-00014415 world does you're not qualified you're
iQbH6iTpbhE-00064-00014416-00014638 no good you're nobody we're going to
iQbH6iTpbhE-00065-00014640-00014822 talk some more about that
iQbH6iTpbhE-00066-00014823-00015111 don't let the world or anybody label you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00067-00015112-00015327 or say things about you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00068-00015328-00015494 know what the word of god says about you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00069-00015495-00015750 nobody can move me from there amen
iQbH6iTpbhE-00070-00015751-00015863 praise god
iQbH6iTpbhE-00071-00015863-00016158 i'm not a man pleaser i'm a god pleaser
iQbH6iTpbhE-00072-00016159-00016391 and this is what my god says about me
iQbH6iTpbhE-00073-00016392-00016575 and i don't care what people say
iQbH6iTpbhE-00074-00016576-00017039 i care what god says amen come on try
iQbH6iTpbhE-00075-00017040-00017222 amen and go home
iQbH6iTpbhE-00076-00017223-00017391 god has great plans for you none of them
iQbH6iTpbhE-00077-00017392-00017527 include defeat
iQbH6iTpbhE-00078-00017528-00017711 be available make yourself available the
iQbH6iTpbhE-00079-00017712-00017927 bible says you can do all things through
iQbH6iTpbhE-00080-00017928-00018127 christ who strengthens me lord i need
iQbH6iTpbhE-00081-00018128-00018255 your strength how many times do you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00082-00018256-00018591 think jesus called the file and says
iQbH6iTpbhE-00083-00018592-00018791 they're going to crucify me i need your
iQbH6iTpbhE-00084-00018792-00018919 help
iQbH6iTpbhE-00085-00018920-00019079 but it's just me
iQbH6iTpbhE-00086-00019080-00019214 they're going to
iQbH6iTpbhE-00087-00019215-00019494 this is what i'm facing i need your help
iQbH6iTpbhE-00088-00019495-00019711 if jesus did it and spend time with the
iQbH6iTpbhE-00089-00019712-00019991 father so do we we we need time with the
iQbH6iTpbhE-00090-00019992-00020079 father
iQbH6iTpbhE-00091-00020080-00020255 praise god i'm a winner i'm a champion
iQbH6iTpbhE-00092-00020256-00020478 i'm an overcomer start changing the
iQbH6iTpbhE-00093-00020479-00020758 things that people have labeled here
iQbH6iTpbhE-00094-00020759-00020950 say you know i'm a child of god and
iQbH6iTpbhE-00095-00020951-00021150 don't be afraid of it you know everybody
iQbH6iTpbhE-00096-00021151-00021303 coming out of their closet saying what
iQbH6iTpbhE-00097-00021304-00021399 they are
iQbH6iTpbhE-00098-00021400-00021655 well i'm gonna come out of mine and says
iQbH6iTpbhE-00099-00021656-00021894 i'm a child of god i'm i'm born again
iQbH6iTpbhE-00100-00021895-00022022 amen
iQbH6iTpbhE-00101-00022023-00022158 so
iQbH6iTpbhE-00102-00022159-00022358 to be changed
iQbH6iTpbhE-00103-00022359-00022519 let's make this declaration together
iQbH6iTpbhE-00104-00022520-00022694 read your bibles
iQbH6iTpbhE-00105-00022695-00022975 and uh
iQbH6iTpbhE-00106-00022976-00023214 and say it like you mean a church amen
iQbH6iTpbhE-00107-00023215-00023535 this declaration is this is my bible i
iQbH6iTpbhE-00108-00023536-00023694 am what's inside
iQbH6iTpbhE-00109-00023695-00023871 i have what it says i have i can do
iQbH6iTpbhE-00110-00023872-00024084 whatever
iQbH6iTpbhE-00111-00024085-00024727 [Music]
iQbH6iTpbhE-00112-00024728-00024999 in jesus name amen you can write that
iQbH6iTpbhE-00113-00025000-00025158 down and you can confess that all the
iQbH6iTpbhE-00114-00025159-00025303 time
iQbH6iTpbhE-00115-00025304-00025550 but i am going to be taught
iQbH6iTpbhE-00116-00025551-00025870 be a learner and not a loser
iQbH6iTpbhE-00117-00025872-00026070 be victorious be a victor and not a
iQbH6iTpbhE-00118-00026072-00026279 victim amen so
iQbH6iTpbhE-00119-00026280-00026431 how do you know
iQbH6iTpbhE-00120-00026432-00026655 like i said i'm blessed we're we're
iQbH6iTpbhE-00121-00026656-00026823 we're on this series and we're on part
iQbH6iTpbhE-00122-00026824-00026918 three
iQbH6iTpbhE-00123-00026919-00027199 but this is the title it is
iQbH6iTpbhE-00124-00027200-00027470 give yourself totally to him
iQbH6iTpbhE-00125-00027472-00027743 surrender fully to jesus
iQbH6iTpbhE-00126-00027744-00028143 let go and let god
iQbH6iTpbhE-00127-00028144-00028318 and no more excuses we're going to talk
iQbH6iTpbhE-00128-00028319-00028535 about excuses because everybody's got
iQbH6iTpbhE-00129-00028536-00028646 one
iQbH6iTpbhE-00130-00028647-00028879 and how many times you how many excuses
iQbH6iTpbhE-00131-00028880-00029070 you think he's hurt and we're going to
iQbH6iTpbhE-00132-00029072-00029270 say a few and i know you probably have a
iQbH6iTpbhE-00133-00029272-00029511 whole bunch of them but uh that's okay
iQbH6iTpbhE-00134-00029512-00029783 just hold on to them
iQbH6iTpbhE-00135-00029783-00030031 and we're going to pick up
iQbH6iTpbhE-00136-00030032-00030190 give yourself totally surrender yourself
iQbH6iTpbhE-00137-00030191-00030390 let go and let god let go of all excuses
iQbH6iTpbhE-00138-00030391-00030639 no holding back give yourself totally to
iQbH6iTpbhE-00139-00030639-00030855 god give yourself fully so rid of
iQbH6iTpbhE-00140-00030856-00031087 yourself amen
iQbH6iTpbhE-00141-00031088-00031390 jesus surrendered himself to the father
iQbH6iTpbhE-00142-00031391-00031567 yes you know he didn't have to do what
iQbH6iTpbhE-00143-00031568-00031839 he did but he did he came because god
iQbH6iTpbhE-00144-00031839-00032023 wanted his people
iQbH6iTpbhE-00145-00032024-00032231 he said he said jesus he loved us so
iQbH6iTpbhE-00146-00032232-00032414 much for god so loved the world he's
iQbH6iTpbhE-00147-00032416-00032695 saying his only begotten son
iQbH6iTpbhE-00148-00032695-00032855 that whosoever believeth in him should
iQbH6iTpbhE-00149-00032856-00033159 not perish but have everlasting life yes
iQbH6iTpbhE-00150-00033160-00033415 amen so your choice is yours
iQbH6iTpbhE-00151-00033416-00033623 don't blame nobody else one day you'll
iQbH6iTpbhE-00152-00033624-00033846 stand before him by yourself
iQbH6iTpbhE-00153-00033847-00034031 your friends can't be around you hey you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00154-00034032-00034271 know kind of pep you up you know
iQbH6iTpbhE-00155-00034272-00034407 you're going to be you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00156-00034408-00034583 why didn't you do what i called you to
iQbH6iTpbhE-00157-00034584-00034727 do
iQbH6iTpbhE-00158-00034728-00034911 well i didn't know that's not an excuse
iQbH6iTpbhE-00159-00034912-00035087 in the morning
iQbH6iTpbhE-00160-00035088-00035239 amen
iQbH6iTpbhE-00161-00035240-00035455 you can do all things through him amen
iQbH6iTpbhE-00162-00035456-00035615 i'm trying to build you up enough to
iQbH6iTpbhE-00163-00035616-00035807 take you down god has already placed
iQbH6iTpbhE-00164-00035808-00036079 everything in us to complete
iQbH6iTpbhE-00165-00036080-00036239 our mission
iQbH6iTpbhE-00166-00036240-00036430 we're equipped
iQbH6iTpbhE-00167-00036431-00036702 to complete what he's called us to do
iQbH6iTpbhE-00168-00036703-00037015 let's not get too busy and forget
iQbH6iTpbhE-00169-00037016-00037190 what we're supposed to be doing let's
iQbH6iTpbhE-00170-00037191-00037462 not be too busy to
iQbH6iTpbhE-00171-00037463-00037655 recognize the father we're going to be
iQbH6iTpbhE-00172-00037656-00037951 talking about this about mary and martha
iQbH6iTpbhE-00173-00037952-00038039 in
iQbH6iTpbhE-00174-00038040-00038367 luke chapter 10 verses 38 through 42.
iQbH6iTpbhE-00175-00038368-00038559 let's let's go here i want to read it to
iQbH6iTpbhE-00176-00038560-00038687 you and i want to read it to you from
iQbH6iTpbhE-00177-00038688-00038774 the uh
iQbH6iTpbhE-00178-00038775-00039046 from the uh amplified also
iQbH6iTpbhE-00179-00039047-00039283 what are you looking at i
iQbH6iTpbhE-00180-00039284-00039295 know chapter 10
iQbH6iTpbhE-00181-00039296-00039543 book don't
iQbH6iTpbhE-00182-00039544-00040055 excuse me verses uh 38 through 42.
iQbH6iTpbhE-00183-00040056-00040343 what's all my sisters here
iQbH6iTpbhE-00184-00040344-00040615 how are we talking about excuses now
iQbH6iTpbhE-00185-00040616-00040846 jesus visits mary and martha now it came
iQbH6iTpbhE-00186-00040847-00041190 to pass as they went
iQbH6iTpbhE-00187-00041191-00041287 that he
iQbH6iTpbhE-00188-00041288-00041495 entered into a certain village and a
iQbH6iTpbhE-00189-00041496-00041767 certain woman named martha received them
iQbH6iTpbhE-00190-00041768-00041990 into her house
iQbH6iTpbhE-00191-00041991-00042246 and she had a sister named mary
iQbH6iTpbhE-00192-00042247-00042558 which also sat at jesus feet and heard
iQbH6iTpbhE-00193-00042559-00042743 his word
iQbH6iTpbhE-00194-00042744-00043046 but martha was covered
iQbH6iTpbhE-00195-00043047-00043230 about such uh
iQbH6iTpbhE-00196-00043231-00043535 serving and came to him and said lord
iQbH6iTpbhE-00197-00043536-00043855 don't know thou not care that my sister
iQbH6iTpbhE-00198-00043856-00043927 had
iQbH6iTpbhE-00199-00043928-00044151 left me to serve alone
iQbH6iTpbhE-00200-00044152-00044518 bitten her therefore that she helped me
iQbH6iTpbhE-00201-00044519-00044774 and jesus answered and said unto her
iQbH6iTpbhE-00202-00044775-00044911 martha martha
iQbH6iTpbhE-00203-00044912-00045190 thou art careful and troubled about many
iQbH6iTpbhE-00204-00045191-00045271 things
iQbH6iTpbhE-00205-00045272-00045630 but one thing is nipple and mary has
iQbH6iTpbhE-00206-00045631-00045958 chosen the good part which shall not be
iQbH6iTpbhE-00207-00045959-00046295 uh taken away from her right okay so i
iQbH6iTpbhE-00208-00046296-00046527 said all that to say this you know
iQbH6iTpbhE-00209-00046528-00046735 and we have we i'm going to be reading
iQbH6iTpbhE-00210-00046736-00046967 you some some things here
iQbH6iTpbhE-00211-00046968-00047215 we get so busy we ain't got time for it
iQbH6iTpbhE-00212-00047216-00047335 for god
iQbH6iTpbhE-00213-00047336-00047646 amen and yeah we you know at first yes
iQbH6iTpbhE-00214-00047647-00047807 yes yes just got born again and we're
iQbH6iTpbhE-00215-00047808-00048007 following fire for god but guess what if
iQbH6iTpbhE-00216-00048008-00048190 you don't keep picking that fire
iQbH6iTpbhE-00217-00048191-00048399 it's going to go out
iQbH6iTpbhE-00218-00048400-00048551 and the enemy is going to put enough
iQbH6iTpbhE-00219-00048552-00048839 people around you to take you down
iQbH6iTpbhE-00220-00048840-00049127 amen you got to say wait renew my mind
iQbH6iTpbhE-00221-00049128-00049279 cleanse my mind
iQbH6iTpbhE-00222-00049280-00049558 and feed on the word if you don't if you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00223-00049559-00049718 don't do that it's going to happen let
iQbH6iTpbhE-00224-00049719-00049895 me read it to you from now
iQbH6iTpbhE-00225-00049896-00050167 from the amplified
iQbH6iTpbhE-00226-00050168-00050358 and while they were gone on the way it
iQbH6iTpbhE-00227-00050359-00050558 occurred that jesus entered a certain
iQbH6iTpbhE-00228-00050559-00050718 village and the woman named martha
iQbH6iTpbhE-00229-00050719-00050886 received him
iQbH6iTpbhE-00230-00050887-00051174 and uh welcomed him into her house
iQbH6iTpbhE-00231-00051175-00051487 and she had a sister named mary who said
iQbH6iTpbhE-00232-00051488-00051702 seated herself at the
iQbH6iTpbhE-00233-00051703-00051950 lord's feet and was listening to his
iQbH6iTpbhE-00234-00051951-00052087 teachings
iQbH6iTpbhE-00235-00052088-00052287 this is what we need to do
iQbH6iTpbhE-00236-00052288-00052471 you know hey i come you come to hear the
iQbH6iTpbhE-00237-00052472-00052599 word
iQbH6iTpbhE-00238-00052600-00052854 god has a messenger i'm the messenger
iQbH6iTpbhE-00239-00052855-00053150 and you come to hear his word amen
iQbH6iTpbhE-00240-00053151-00053335 but mark mary
iQbH6iTpbhE-00241-00053336-00053654 who recognized who the master is and she
iQbH6iTpbhE-00242-00053655-00054071 came to him and melt and sat and heard
iQbH6iTpbhE-00243-00054072-00054254 what jesus had to say
iQbH6iTpbhE-00244-00054255-00054503 and martha is too busy
iQbH6iTpbhE-00245-00054504-00054766 amen we can be this way you know even if
iQbH6iTpbhE-00246-00054767-00055038 you come to church you know um
iQbH6iTpbhE-00247-00055039-00055335 we can come to church and not
iQbH6iTpbhE-00248-00055336-00055599 hear what god has to say through the
iQbH6iTpbhE-00249-00055600-00055719 messenger
iQbH6iTpbhE-00250-00055720-00055935 we're too busy we're too preoccupied i'm
iQbH6iTpbhE-00251-00055936-00056103 still thinking about knowing at what
iQbH6iTpbhE-00252-00056104-00056263 time the game's coming on i'm trying to
iQbH6iTpbhE-00253-00056264-00056415 figure out all kinds of schedules for
iQbH6iTpbhE-00254-00056416-00056638 tomorrow work schedules and everything
iQbH6iTpbhE-00255-00056639-00057030 else you know i'm so busy in my head
iQbH6iTpbhE-00256-00057032-00057287 i'm not even receiving what
iQbH6iTpbhE-00257-00057288-00057479 god has to say
iQbH6iTpbhE-00258-00057479-00057654 and he man he's got a blessing for you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00259-00057655-00057871 and we're not even we're not even open
iQbH6iTpbhE-00260-00057872-00058030 to what he's got
iQbH6iTpbhE-00261-00058032-00058342 come on get my head in the hole come on
iQbH6iTpbhE-00262-00058344-00058591 you still love pastor
iQbH6iTpbhE-00263-00058591-00058887 but martha overly occupied and too busy
iQbH6iTpbhE-00264-00058888-00059191 was distracted with much serving and she
iQbH6iTpbhE-00265-00059191-00059407 came up to him and said lord
iQbH6iTpbhE-00266-00059408-00059742 is it nothing to you or is it nothing to
iQbH6iTpbhE-00267-00059744-00059815 you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00268-00059816-00059903 that
iQbH6iTpbhE-00269-00059904-00060047 uh
iQbH6iTpbhE-00270-00060048-00060359 my sister has left me to serve alone
iQbH6iTpbhE-00271-00060360-00060550 tell her to help me
iQbH6iTpbhE-00272-00060551-00060830 to lend a hand and do her part along
iQbH6iTpbhE-00273-00060832-00060942 with me
iQbH6iTpbhE-00274-00060944-00061126 but the lord replied to her saying
iQbH6iTpbhE-00275-00061127-00061406 martha martha you are anxious and
iQbH6iTpbhE-00276-00061407-00061711 troubled about many things there is a
iQbH6iTpbhE-00277-00061712-00061942 good need that says
iQbH6iTpbhE-00278-00061944-00062271 there is a need of only one of or
iQbH6iTpbhE-00279-00062272-00062526 excuse me let me start over 42. there is
iQbH6iTpbhE-00280-00062527-00062903 a need of only one or but a few things
iQbH6iTpbhE-00281-00062904-00063142 mary has chosen the good thing or the
iQbH6iTpbhE-00282-00063144-00063430 good fortune that which is to her
iQbH6iTpbhE-00283-00063432-00063679 advantage which shall not be taken away
iQbH6iTpbhE-00284-00063679-00063823 from her
iQbH6iTpbhE-00285-00063824-00063999 we need we need to we need to learn from
iQbH6iTpbhE-00286-00064000-00064111 this
iQbH6iTpbhE-00287-00064112-00064335 you know he's not impressed uh how much
iQbH6iTpbhE-00288-00064336-00064542 we're gonna you know serve and just be
iQbH6iTpbhE-00289-00064544-00064766 busy about doing things he's at the
iQbH6iTpbhE-00290-00064767-00065038 house and we need to
iQbH6iTpbhE-00291-00065039-00065319 focus on him and start you know
iQbH6iTpbhE-00292-00065320-00065535 listening to what he has to say
iQbH6iTpbhE-00293-00065536-00065815 amen so
iQbH6iTpbhE-00294-00065816-00066175 i don't know about you but i'm excited
iQbH6iTpbhE-00295-00066176-00066503 so let god go let god let go and let god
iQbH6iTpbhE-00296-00066504-00066647 guide and provide
iQbH6iTpbhE-00297-00066648-00066959 let god have his way and i'm gonna
iQbH6iTpbhE-00298-00066960-00067223 read this uh proverbs 3 5 and 6 says
iQbH6iTpbhE-00299-00067224-00067535 trust in the lord with all your heart
iQbH6iTpbhE-00300-00067536-00067743 not just part of it
iQbH6iTpbhE-00301-00067744-00067935 talking about your spirit trust him with
iQbH6iTpbhE-00302-00067936-00068071 all your heart lean on your own
iQbH6iTpbhE-00303-00068072-00068238 understanding in all your ways
iQbH6iTpbhE-00304-00068239-00068455 acknowledge him and see he shall direct
iQbH6iTpbhE-00305-00068456-00068615 your path
iQbH6iTpbhE-00306-00068616-00068831 and uh pray and amplified says trust in
iQbH6iTpbhE-00307-00068832-00069047 the lord to trust in and rely
iQbH6iTpbhE-00308-00069048-00069231 confidently on the lord with all your
iQbH6iTpbhE-00309-00069232-00069326 heart
iQbH6iTpbhE-00310-00069327-00069591 and do not rely on your own inside and
iQbH6iTpbhE-00311-00069592-00069799 understanding
iQbH6iTpbhE-00312-00069800-00070006 we talked about this is
iQbH6iTpbhE-00313-00070007-00070231 we don't want to give control we want to
iQbH6iTpbhE-00314-00070232-00070487 be in control when you're in control
iQbH6iTpbhE-00315-00070488-00070726 meaning you're sitting on the throne
iQbH6iTpbhE-00316-00070727-00070879 you got to get all yourself off the
iQbH6iTpbhE-00317-00070880-00071175 phone and trust him put him seek you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00318-00071176-00071359 first the kingdom of god his
iQbH6iTpbhE-00319-00071360-00071535 righteousness and all these things shall
iQbH6iTpbhE-00320-00071536-00071726 be added on to you so when you change
iQbH6iTpbhE-00321-00071727-00071926 your priorities and put him first you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00322-00071927-00072119 know things are going to change amen
iQbH6iTpbhE-00323-00072120-00072326 amen things are going to change
iQbH6iTpbhE-00324-00072327-00072559 and uh in august verse 6 says in all
iQbH6iTpbhE-00325-00072560-00072791 your ways know and acknowledge and
iQbH6iTpbhE-00326-00072792-00073119 recognize him and he will make your path
iQbH6iTpbhE-00327-00073120-00073382 straight and smooth removing obstacles
iQbH6iTpbhE-00328-00073383-00073615 that block your way i'm trying to figure
iQbH6iTpbhE-00329-00073616-00073694 out
iQbH6iTpbhE-00330-00073695-00073982 you know my future no
iQbH6iTpbhE-00331-00073983-00074191 today's got enough problems on itself
iQbH6iTpbhE-00332-00074192-00074399 you focus on today the past is gone
iQbH6iTpbhE-00333-00074400-00074606 don't focus on past because you got to
iQbH6iTpbhE-00334-00074607-00074726 let it go
iQbH6iTpbhE-00335-00074727-00074943 remember he says he'll forgive and
iQbH6iTpbhE-00336-00074944-00075062 forget
iQbH6iTpbhE-00337-00075063-00075255 and we're still remembering
iQbH6iTpbhE-00338-00075256-00075471 so if you've confessed if you've given
iQbH6iTpbhE-00339-00075472-00075679 it to him then let it go
iQbH6iTpbhE-00340-00075680-00075991 the enemy comes the spiritual battle
iQbH6iTpbhE-00341-00075992-00076279 the mind the battlefield he brings the
iQbH6iTpbhE-00342-00076280-00076543 past to you and says he didn't forgive
iQbH6iTpbhE-00343-00076544-00076631 you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00344-00076632-00076775 he didn't forget
iQbH6iTpbhE-00345-00076776-00077031 but that's a lot i'm not receiving that
iQbH6iTpbhE-00346-00077032-00077199 you just got to say i'm not receiving
iQbH6iTpbhE-00347-00077200-00077279 that
iQbH6iTpbhE-00348-00077280-00077559 because i know that he does forgive and
iQbH6iTpbhE-00349-00077560-00077791 forget amen
iQbH6iTpbhE-00350-00077792-00078206 so when god calls you to do something
iQbH6iTpbhE-00351-00078207-00078375 you step out in faith that's what the
iQbH6iTpbhE-00352-00078376-00078647 bible says the judge shall walk by faith
iQbH6iTpbhE-00353-00078648-00078879 or not by sight step out in faith for
iQbH6iTpbhE-00354-00078880-00079071 god hasn't given us a spirit of fear but
iQbH6iTpbhE-00355-00079072-00079279 a power love and of a sound mind second
iQbH6iTpbhE-00356-00079280-00079423 peter 1 7
iQbH6iTpbhE-00357-00079424-00079638 just do it i can do all things through
iQbH6iTpbhE-00358-00079639-00080055 christ no excuses just trust him amen
iQbH6iTpbhE-00359-00080056-00080335 hallelujah let go and let god motivate
iQbH6iTpbhE-00360-00080336-00080423 us to
iQbH6iTpbhE-00361-00080424-00080719 receive him and accept him
iQbH6iTpbhE-00362-00080720-00080982 to serve him to be battle ready as a
iQbH6iTpbhE-00363-00080983-00081279 soldier of god amen i
iQbH6iTpbhE-00364-00081280-00081455 spent my time in the military and i
iQbH6iTpbhE-00365-00081456-00081694 guarantee you we're trained to be bad
iQbH6iTpbhE-00366-00081695-00081943 and ready that's a soldier of god we got
iQbH6iTpbhE-00367-00081944-00082126 to be mad already that means you got to
iQbH6iTpbhE-00368-00082127-00082294 spend time with him you got to spend
iQbH6iTpbhE-00369-00082295-00082503 time in the word and prepare yourselves
iQbH6iTpbhE-00370-00082504-00082775 amen and guess what that makes me heaven
iQbH6iTpbhE-00371-00082776-00082903 bound
iQbH6iTpbhE-00372-00082904-00083079 when thing is over or when he calls me
iQbH6iTpbhE-00373-00083080-00083375 home i'm heaven bound i'm gonna
iQbH6iTpbhE-00374-00083376-00083575 it's gonna be a homegoing celebration
iQbH6iTpbhE-00375-00083576-00083887 for me hey amen it's not gonna be a sad
iQbH6iTpbhE-00376-00083888-00084126 thing don't come crying
iQbH6iTpbhE-00377-00084127-00084447 because i want to be happy
iQbH6iTpbhE-00378-00084448-00084687 to be used of him to be his witnesses to
iQbH6iTpbhE-00379-00084688-00084959 come to complete our mission
iQbH6iTpbhE-00380-00084960-00085206 to be heaven ready
iQbH6iTpbhE-00381-00085207-00085335 i'm just skipping through some of these
iQbH6iTpbhE-00382-00085336-00085623 because we're catching up remember that
iQbH6iTpbhE-00383-00085624-00085815 every the people that were invited to
iQbH6iTpbhE-00384-00085816-00086071 the feast never made it because they had
iQbH6iTpbhE-00385-00086072-00086326 excuses the first one says uh
iQbH6iTpbhE-00386-00086327-00086575 excuse me he says uh i have just bought
iQbH6iTpbhE-00387-00086576-00086807 a field and i want to inspect it
iQbH6iTpbhE-00388-00086808-00086950 [Music]
iQbH6iTpbhE-00389-00086951-00087087 you want to feel and you want to go
iQbH6iTpbhE-00390-00087088-00087271 inspect it are you supposed to you know
iQbH6iTpbhE-00391-00087272-00087455 that's a poor business because you want
iQbH6iTpbhE-00392-00087456-00087687 to inspect it before you buy it yes
iQbH6iTpbhE-00393-00087688-00087950 maybe you bought a dump
iQbH6iTpbhE-00394-00087951-00088135 but that's a sorry excuse the second one
iQbH6iTpbhE-00395-00088136-00088343 says i just bought five pair of oxen you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00396-00088344-00088582 know i try them out
iQbH6iTpbhE-00397-00088583-00088726 well you want to take them out again you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00398-00088727-00088862 want to check them out before you buy
iQbH6iTpbhE-00399-00088863-00089023 them if you buy a car you don't say oh
iQbH6iTpbhE-00400-00089024-00089223 you got to talk to somebody and say yeah
iQbH6iTpbhE-00401-00089224-00089391 i'm going to buy your car you may go and
iQbH6iTpbhE-00402-00089392-00089599 find your car it's not on wheels
iQbH6iTpbhE-00403-00089600-00089782 but you may just go find it and find the
iQbH6iTpbhE-00404-00089783-00090094 frame that's all
iQbH6iTpbhE-00405-00090095-00090271 how wide by them if you don't know their
iQbH6iTpbhE-00406-00090272-00090415 condition you got to try them first
iQbH6iTpbhE-00407-00090416-00090606 before you buy them
iQbH6iTpbhE-00408-00090607-00090735 maybe they're too old maybe maybe
iQbH6iTpbhE-00409-00090736-00090879 they're worthless
iQbH6iTpbhE-00410-00090880-00091047 but lame excuse then the third one of
iQbH6iTpbhE-00411-00091048-00091262 course is i i i just married i can't
iQbH6iTpbhE-00412-00091263-00091455 come right that was the worst voice
iQbH6iTpbhE-00413-00091456-00091671 excuse because you know he's been
iQbH6iTpbhE-00414-00091672-00091911 telling her i gotta go with the boys you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00415-00091912-00092191 know so how many times he said that and
iQbH6iTpbhE-00416-00092192-00092350 he said he didn't say divorce your wife
iQbH6iTpbhE-00417-00092351-00092550 he says just come
iQbH6iTpbhE-00418-00092551-00092775 but he didn't
iQbH6iTpbhE-00419-00092776-00093311 that was the worst excuse
iQbH6iTpbhE-00420-00093312-00093526 reasons excuses they didn't accept the
iQbH6iTpbhE-00421-00093527-00093694 invitation and we're going to be talking
iQbH6iTpbhE-00422-00093695-00093967 about fears and procrastinations
iQbH6iTpbhE-00423-00093968-00094318 and failures what's your excuse
iQbH6iTpbhE-00424-00094319-00094503 this is where we come in
iQbH6iTpbhE-00425-00094504-00094703 what's your excuse think about many
iQbH6iTpbhE-00426-00094704-00094991 times we've made excuses to god
iQbH6iTpbhE-00427-00094992-00095247 okay let's talk about pastor i have i
iQbH6iTpbhE-00428-00095248-00095503 know you have haven't but i have
iQbH6iTpbhE-00429-00095504-00095799 i say lord i'd love to but
iQbH6iTpbhE-00430-00095800-00095982 that's what moses says you picked the
iQbH6iTpbhE-00431-00095983-00096111 wrong person
iQbH6iTpbhE-00432-00096112-00096326 i can't talk
iQbH6iTpbhE-00433-00096327-00096503 god knows what's better than we know we
iQbH6iTpbhE-00434-00096504-00096679 ourselves he said he would knew us
iQbH6iTpbhE-00435-00096680-00096982 before we was in the mother's womb yes
iQbH6iTpbhE-00436-00096983-00097335 but now we're telling him i can't do it
iQbH6iTpbhE-00437-00097336-00097479 and no one says
iQbH6iTpbhE-00438-00097480-00097655 uh build me an art
iQbH6iTpbhE-00439-00097656-00098082 and he says i've never done that before
iQbH6iTpbhE-00440-00098083-00098262 so we
iQbH6iTpbhE-00441-00098263-00098518 we joined the crowd and says um i feel
iQbH6iTpbhE-00442-00098519-00098743 that i failed every time
iQbH6iTpbhE-00443-00098744-00098918 you know sometimes families sometimes
iQbH6iTpbhE-00444-00098919-00099062 friends sometimes
iQbH6iTpbhE-00445-00099063-00099206 people we know
iQbH6iTpbhE-00446-00099207-00099526 always say you know what you're no good
iQbH6iTpbhE-00447-00099527-00099767 you failed all the time
iQbH6iTpbhE-00448-00099768-00100038 i can't do that i'm no good i'm too busy
iQbH6iTpbhE-00449-00100039-00100271 i don't have time
iQbH6iTpbhE-00450-00100272-00100606 yeah absolutely some some are excuses
iQbH6iTpbhE-00451-00100607-00100823 i hate drugs
iQbH6iTpbhE-00452-00100824-00100918 come on
iQbH6iTpbhE-00453-00100919-00101215 some of you are smiling
iQbH6iTpbhE-00454-00101216-00101399 says i hate church
iQbH6iTpbhE-00455-00101400-00101623 it's a waste of time
iQbH6iTpbhE-00456-00101624-00101815 it's boring
iQbH6iTpbhE-00457-00101816-00101999 um
iQbH6iTpbhE-00458-00102000-00102343 i've worked hard all week
iQbH6iTpbhE-00459-00102344-00102671 so i rest on the weekends
iQbH6iTpbhE-00460-00102672-00102854 you see a little pastor and then of
iQbH6iTpbhE-00461-00102855-00103086 course i had married a sword of mary
iQbH6iTpbhE-00462-00103088-00103239 martin
iQbH6iTpbhE-00463-00103240-00103342 it says
iQbH6iTpbhE-00464-00103343-00103551 mary and martha has confused many
iQbH6iTpbhE-00465-00103552-00103694 christians the main
iQbH6iTpbhE-00466-00103695-00103934 lesson here is the story places emphasis
iQbH6iTpbhE-00467-00103935-00104239 on giving attention to jesus over all
iQbH6iTpbhE-00468-00104240-00104478 your busyness
iQbH6iTpbhE-00469-00104479-00104654 seek you first
iQbH6iTpbhE-00470-00104655-00104943 spend time with him first amen this is
iQbH6iTpbhE-00471-00104944-00105119 my priority you know before i go into
iQbH6iTpbhE-00472-00105120-00105351 the busy world i'm already thinking all
iQbH6iTpbhE-00473-00105352-00105502 the things i've got to do before i get
iQbH6iTpbhE-00474-00105503-00105727 there and i got to go past all these
iQbH6iTpbhE-00475-00105728-00105927 negative peoples
iQbH6iTpbhE-00476-00105928-00106102 before i get there and people are
iQbH6iTpbhE-00477-00106103-00106295 greeting you you know with one finger
iQbH6iTpbhE-00478-00106296-00106495 and all that stuff you know saying
iQbH6iTpbhE-00479-00106496-00106766 things at you waving you off i mean all
iQbH6iTpbhE-00480-00106767-00107023 this road rage
iQbH6iTpbhE-00481-00107024-00107223 but you have built yourself up i'm
iQbH6iTpbhE-00482-00107224-00107375 strong enough i don't have to go through
iQbH6iTpbhE-00483-00107376-00107831 that it means
iQbH6iTpbhE-00484-00107832-00107990 i'm always sick i'm always sick on
iQbH6iTpbhE-00485-00107991-00108119 weekends
iQbH6iTpbhE-00486-00108120-00108278 but i heal and i'm ready for work on
iQbH6iTpbhE-00487-00108279-00108607 mondays through fridays
iQbH6iTpbhE-00488-00108608-00108807 i hate my pastors you don't have to
iQbH6iTpbhE-00489-00108808-00109078 raise your hand man
iQbH6iTpbhE-00490-00109079-00109351 i didn't put anything on that
iQbH6iTpbhE-00491-00109352-00109519 every one of us think difference you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00492-00109520-00109719 know maybe uh he talks too much maybe he
iQbH6iTpbhE-00493-00109720-00109951 preaches too much or maybe he thinks he
iQbH6iTpbhE-00494-00109952-00110175 knows it all or i don't know what's your
iQbH6iTpbhE-00495-00110176-00110423 excuse i hate my pastor
iQbH6iTpbhE-00496-00110424-00110683 listen to this excuses or
iQbH6iTpbhE-00497-00110683-00110990 nails our nails is used to build
iQbH6iTpbhE-00498-00110991-00111278 a house of failure
iQbH6iTpbhE-00499-00111279-00111495 you built your house you put your
iQbH6iTpbhE-00500-00111496-00111702 foundation on the word god and you can
iQbH6iTpbhE-00501-00111703-00111919 build yourself a good foundation but you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00502-00111920-00112023 can also
iQbH6iTpbhE-00503-00112024-00112343 use ex negative excuses and use nails to
iQbH6iTpbhE-00504-00112344-00112575 build your house a favor
iQbH6iTpbhE-00505-00112576-00112775 because if your new house is not built
iQbH6iTpbhE-00506-00112776-00112999 on the solid rock it's going to fall
iQbH6iTpbhE-00507-00113000-00113263 it's going to crumble and fall amen and
iQbH6iTpbhE-00508-00113264-00113783 you can't blame nobody else but yourself
iQbH6iTpbhE-00509-00113783-00114031 it says don't look for excuses to lose
iQbH6iTpbhE-00510-00114032-00114463 look for excuses to win yes amen
iQbH6iTpbhE-00511-00114464-00114671 it's going to help me try again and
iQbH6iTpbhE-00512-00114672-00114919 again and again we must turn news of all
iQbH6iTpbhE-00513-00114920-00115231 but god excuses and hold off and uh
iQbH6iTpbhE-00514-00115232-00115431 hold us back and keep us from receiving
iQbH6iTpbhE-00515-00115432-00115751 and enjoying all that god has for us
iQbH6iTpbhE-00516-00115752-00115990 all that god has for us listen you can
iQbH6iTpbhE-00517-00115991-00116151 write this down
iQbH6iTpbhE-00518-00116152-00116283 don't limit
iQbH6iTpbhE-00519-00116283-00116647 god don't limit god and don't limit
iQbH6iTpbhE-00520-00116648-00116831 yourself
iQbH6iTpbhE-00521-00116832-00117047 take the limits off
iQbH6iTpbhE-00522-00117048-00117247 we need we need to do this
iQbH6iTpbhE-00523-00117248-00117471 yeah but you know i can't
iQbH6iTpbhE-00524-00117472-00117775 we we we we got to stop it we can't be
iQbH6iTpbhE-00525-00117776-00117990 using that anymore amen
iQbH6iTpbhE-00526-00117991-00118310 he has not limited us we limit him
iQbH6iTpbhE-00527-00118311-00118863 but we got to take those limits off amen
iQbH6iTpbhE-00528-00118864-00118990 uh
iQbH6iTpbhE-00529-00118991-00119095 jesus
iQbH6iTpbhE-00530-00119096-00119286 paid the price and he has given us
iQbH6iTpbhE-00531-00119288-00119566 salvation we must receive confess him as
iQbH6iTpbhE-00532-00119567-00119847 lord and savior and be heaven bound amen
iQbH6iTpbhE-00533-00119848-00120078 get off your kung siyama and uh serve
iQbH6iTpbhE-00534-00120079-00120302 him by serving now
iQbH6iTpbhE-00535-00120303-00120519 i've got to start to look uh i think we
iQbH6iTpbhE-00536-00120520-00120758 gave the church a whole bunch of these
iQbH6iTpbhE-00537-00120759-00120886 but it says
iQbH6iTpbhE-00538-00120888-00121078 serve
iQbH6iTpbhE-00539-00121079-00121286 with a heart like jesus
iQbH6iTpbhE-00540-00121288-00121502 amen i think we have still have some you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00541-00121503-00121807 can get one but uh servant that's why
iQbH6iTpbhE-00542-00121808-00121966 that's what we call to do we're called
iQbH6iTpbhE-00543-00121967-00122254 to serve be servants amen
iQbH6iTpbhE-00544-00122255-00122407 be available now
iQbH6iTpbhE-00545-00122408-00122647 not manana we use that a whole lot you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00546-00122648-00122863 know well you know tomorrow
iQbH6iTpbhE-00547-00122864-00123127 we put that off all the time
iQbH6iTpbhE-00548-00123128-00123343 the day is the day
iQbH6iTpbhE-00549-00123344-00123551 time to step out of your boat for jesus
iQbH6iTpbhE-00550-00123552-00123734 like peter be
iQbH6iTpbhE-00551-00123735-00124071 daily be available be accepting and be
iQbH6iTpbhE-00552-00124072-00124286 servant here
iQbH6iTpbhE-00553-00124288-00124439 the reason you're not serving him is
iQbH6iTpbhE-00554-00124440-00124710 maybe you heard a lie maybe somebody
iQbH6iTpbhE-00555-00124711-00124951 told you you're not supposed to
iQbH6iTpbhE-00556-00124952-00125102 maybe you said maybe you're waiting for
iQbH6iTpbhE-00557-00125103-00125407 god but god's waiting on you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00558-00125408-00125558 don't be waiting on him spend time with
iQbH6iTpbhE-00559-00125559-00125847 him you'll know that he's waiting on you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00560-00125848-00126127 he's told you what to do we just gotta
iQbH6iTpbhE-00561-00126128-00126383 put some um faith only and start
iQbH6iTpbhE-00562-00126383-00126566 stepping out in faith
iQbH6iTpbhE-00563-00126567-00126847 amen that's right so
iQbH6iTpbhE-00564-00126848-00127078 new beginnings are what god has for us
iQbH6iTpbhE-00565-00127079-00127414 get back to the call he is in his he has
iQbH6iTpbhE-00566-00127415-00127623 called you you know like the prodigal
iQbH6iTpbhE-00567-00127624-00127766 son you know
iQbH6iTpbhE-00568-00127767-00128023 he just wanna but all to himself and he
iQbH6iTpbhE-00569-00128024-00128190 told the father give me what's coming to
iQbH6iTpbhE-00570-00128191-00128414 me and and he took off you know and he
iQbH6iTpbhE-00571-00128415-00128566 wanted to spend it all
iQbH6iTpbhE-00572-00128567-00128743 and then he's out there eating with the
iQbH6iTpbhE-00573-00128744-00128863 pigs
iQbH6iTpbhE-00574-00128864-00129023 he said man i can do better than this at
iQbH6iTpbhE-00575-00129024-00129263 father's house yeah god equipped you to
iQbH6iTpbhE-00576-00129264-00129454 do a whole lot better than than that
iQbH6iTpbhE-00577-00129455-00129543 yeah
iQbH6iTpbhE-00578-00129544-00129671 and the reason you're there is because
iQbH6iTpbhE-00579-00129672-00129886 you put yourself there he didn't you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00580-00129888-00130039 didn't he didn't put you there you put
iQbH6iTpbhE-00581-00130040-00130231 yourself there
iQbH6iTpbhE-00582-00130232-00130334 but you can
iQbH6iTpbhE-00583-00130335-00130583 he would he had um
iQbH6iTpbhE-00584-00130583-00130886 he knew that he can go back to father
iQbH6iTpbhE-00585-00130888-00131039 and you know what father is looking for
iQbH6iTpbhE-00586-00131040-00131231 you every time he says when he was
iQbH6iTpbhE-00587-00131232-00131414 coming down the road every day father
iQbH6iTpbhE-00588-00131415-00131887 went to look for his son coming home
iQbH6iTpbhE-00589-00131888-00132063 and he saw him coming down the road and
iQbH6iTpbhE-00590-00132064-00132231 he ran to meet him
iQbH6iTpbhE-00591-00132232-00132447 jesus is running to meet some of us and
iQbH6iTpbhE-00592-00132448-00132614 some of us all we need to do is take in
iQbH6iTpbhE-00593-00132615-00132919 about face take a step the other way and
iQbH6iTpbhE-00594-00132920-00133127 he's right there to embrace us he's not
iQbH6iTpbhE-00595-00133128-00133327 there to push us away and say hey you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00596-00133328-00133527 have to chance no
iQbH6iTpbhE-00597-00133528-00133663 he's there to say
iQbH6iTpbhE-00598-00133664-00133919 you know let's get busy
iQbH6iTpbhE-00599-00133920-00134095 you know yeah i put everything in here
iQbH6iTpbhE-00600-00134096-00134311 that you need to fulfill what i've
iQbH6iTpbhE-00601-00134312-00134439 called you to do
iQbH6iTpbhE-00602-00134440-00134535 amen
iQbH6iTpbhE-00603-00134536-00135087 praise god
iQbH6iTpbhE-00604-00135088-00135319 he's back to calling us
iQbH6iTpbhE-00605-00135320-00135575 and what he's had for us he never takes
iQbH6iTpbhE-00606-00135576-00135790 his calling away from us
iQbH6iTpbhE-00607-00135791-00135959 you know people tell you those things
iQbH6iTpbhE-00608-00135960-00136159 you read those things and you know this
iQbH6iTpbhE-00609-00136160-00136302 is negative world so you got to be
iQbH6iTpbhE-00610-00136303-00136511 careful what you listen to
iQbH6iTpbhE-00611-00136512-00136678 main thing to do is get yourself full of
iQbH6iTpbhE-00612-00136679-00136799 the word
iQbH6iTpbhE-00613-00136800-00136959 and know what the word god says so when
iQbH6iTpbhE-00614-00136960-00137175 you read something negative or something
iQbH6iTpbhE-00615-00137176-00137383 false you know you don't listen to it or
iQbH6iTpbhE-00616-00137384-00137519 you hear something
iQbH6iTpbhE-00617-00137520-00137735 i says it's not that's not what god says
iQbH6iTpbhE-00618-00137736-00137919 right or you hear somebody interpret
iQbH6iTpbhE-00619-00137920-00138159 something wrong i say just put it on the
iQbH6iTpbhE-00620-00138160-00138359 shelf or say hit the lead says i'm not
iQbH6iTpbhE-00621-00138360-00138511 receiving that
iQbH6iTpbhE-00622-00138512-00138695 he never gives up on you and he never
iQbH6iTpbhE-00623-00138696-00138966 quits on you we quit on him
iQbH6iTpbhE-00624-00138967-00139223 we must obey and step out
iQbH6iTpbhE-00625-00139224-00139423 you know all the bible heroes
iQbH6iTpbhE-00626-00139424-00139590 i've said this many times but all the
iQbH6iTpbhE-00627-00139591-00139799 bible heroes you hear about
iQbH6iTpbhE-00628-00139800-00139975 have sinned in their life
iQbH6iTpbhE-00629-00139976-00140319 or committed sin yeah but he still used
iQbH6iTpbhE-00630-00140320-00140478 it
iQbH6iTpbhE-00631-00140479-00140711 nobody's perfect but jesus
iQbH6iTpbhE-00632-00140712-00140919 amen
iQbH6iTpbhE-00633-00140920-00141078 philippians 4
iQbH6iTpbhE-00634-00141079-00141351 we must obey and step out
iQbH6iTpbhE-00635-00141352-00141599 philippians 4 13 we know this it says
iQbH6iTpbhE-00636-00141600-00141783 for uh i can do all things through
iQbH6iTpbhE-00637-00141784-00142031 christ who strengthens me
iQbH6iTpbhE-00638-00142032-00142302 so we have to expose and turn loose of
iQbH6iTpbhE-00639-00142303-00142511 whatever excuse you have your excuse is
iQbH6iTpbhE-00640-00142512-00142654 different than mine i don't know what
iQbH6iTpbhE-00641-00142655-00142790 your excuse is
iQbH6iTpbhE-00642-00142791-00143239 but it's time you stop using those
iQbH6iTpbhE-00643-00143240-00143495 but god okay
iQbH6iTpbhE-00644-00143496-00143766 you're holding back
iQbH6iTpbhE-00645-00143767-00144102 no more no more press on he says the
iQbH6iTpbhE-00646-00144103-00144375 pressure forget the past and press on to
iQbH6iTpbhE-00647-00144376-00144607 what i've called you to do
iQbH6iTpbhE-00648-00144608-00144807 here here we are going to talk about
iQbH6iTpbhE-00649-00144808-00145087 some excuses that hold us back and like
iQbH6iTpbhE-00650-00145088-00145359 i said yours may be different
iQbH6iTpbhE-00651-00145360-00145583 fear so what is fear
iQbH6iTpbhE-00652-00145584-00145766 that's one thing the enemy uses a whole
iQbH6iTpbhE-00653-00145767-00145878 lot
iQbH6iTpbhE-00654-00145879-00146135 amen if you're a child of god you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00655-00146136-00146278 shouldn't have fear
iQbH6iTpbhE-00656-00146279-00146478 and if you drive you should have fear of
iQbH6iTpbhE-00657-00146479-00146775 him who's able to just
iQbH6iTpbhE-00658-00146776-00147166 just demolish you but he don't
iQbH6iTpbhE-00659-00147167-00147407 fear is option of faith
iQbH6iTpbhE-00660-00147408-00147502 when you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00661-00147503-00147711 fill yourself with the word of god you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00662-00147712-00147878 fill yourself with
iQbH6iTpbhE-00663-00147879-00148271 faith yes amen and it gives you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00664-00148272-00148471 man gives you a pep but you don't want
iQbH6iTpbhE-00665-00148472-00148743 to be stepping out
iQbH6iTpbhE-00666-00148744-00148983 fear holds you back listen to what fear
iQbH6iTpbhE-00667-00148984-00149199 anxiety distress fright
iQbH6iTpbhE-00668-00149200-00149302 horror
iQbH6iTpbhE-00669-00149303-00149535 panic terrors this one
iQbH6iTpbhE-00670-00149536-00149678 that's what the enemy wants to keep you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00671-00149679-00149775 at
iQbH6iTpbhE-00672-00149776-00150047 fear
iQbH6iTpbhE-00673-00150048-00150231 you renew your mind so you're not in
iQbH6iTpbhE-00674-00150232-00150423 fear when you feel yourself with the
iQbH6iTpbhE-00675-00150424-00150535 word of god
iQbH6iTpbhE-00676-00150536-00150751 faith will get that
iQbH6iTpbhE-00677-00150752-00150902 fear out of you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00678-00150903-00151102 i don't i'm not receiving that fear it's
iQbH6iTpbhE-00679-00151103-00151335 not for me i'm stepping out of faith he
iQbH6iTpbhE-00680-00151336-00151526 told he told peter
iQbH6iTpbhE-00681-00151527-00151695 he saw jesus walking on the water we
iQbH6iTpbhE-00682-00151696-00151911 talked about this first thing
iQbH6iTpbhE-00683-00151912-00152135 and peter says i want to come play with
iQbH6iTpbhE-00684-00152136-00152335 you i want to come where you are all he
iQbH6iTpbhE-00685-00152336-00152487 said was come
iQbH6iTpbhE-00686-00152488-00152654 and he came
iQbH6iTpbhE-00687-00152655-00153007 so he's got a word for you he says come
iQbH6iTpbhE-00688-00153008-00153214 amen come
iQbH6iTpbhE-00689-00153215-00153414 he told his disciples going to all the
iQbH6iTpbhE-00690-00153415-00153535 world
iQbH6iTpbhE-00691-00153536-00153775 and he wants us to be busy about the
iQbH6iTpbhE-00692-00153776-00154063 father's business but he says come amen
iQbH6iTpbhE-00693-00154064-00154351 praise god the approval of men
iQbH6iTpbhE-00694-00154352-00154647 nah let it go we want the approval of
iQbH6iTpbhE-00695-00154648-00154999 god amen the approval of jesus
iQbH6iTpbhE-00696-00155000-00155190 praise god
iQbH6iTpbhE-00697-00155191-00155407 uh
iQbH6iTpbhE-00698-00155408-00155719 john 12 42 and 43 says nevertheless many
iQbH6iTpbhE-00699-00155720-00155966 even that uh many of the leading men
iQbH6iTpbhE-00700-00155967-00156207 believed in him as savior and messiah
iQbH6iTpbhE-00701-00156208-00156287 but
iQbH6iTpbhE-00702-00156288-00156511 because of pharisees they would not
iQbH6iTpbhE-00703-00156512-00156631 confess it
iQbH6iTpbhE-00704-00156632-00156790 because of fear
iQbH6iTpbhE-00705-00156791-00157031 and they acknowledge him open
iQbH6iTpbhE-00706-00157032-00157247 if they if if they acknowledge him
iQbH6iTpbhE-00707-00157248-00157535 openly they would put out
iQbH6iTpbhE-00708-00157536-00157671 uh they would be put out in the
iQbH6iTpbhE-00709-00157672-00157902 synagogue they will be excommunicated
iQbH6iTpbhE-00710-00157903-00158087 and they love the approval of being one
iQbH6iTpbhE-00711-00158088-00158278 of the improvement of god
iQbH6iTpbhE-00712-00158279-00158566 so they didn't say anything
iQbH6iTpbhE-00713-00158567-00158726 we don't we don't want to go here we
iQbH6iTpbhE-00714-00158727-00158854 don't want to do that
iQbH6iTpbhE-00715-00158855-00158975 if we're going to enter into the
iQbH6iTpbhE-00716-00158976-00159190 blessings of god we must expose and
iQbH6iTpbhE-00717-00159191-00159471 overcome fear by being uh overrejected
iQbH6iTpbhE-00718-00159472-00159639 of men
iQbH6iTpbhE-00719-00159640-00159871 make a decision now to pursue or serve
iQbH6iTpbhE-00720-00159872-00160023 god amen
iQbH6iTpbhE-00721-00160024-00160143 hallelujah
iQbH6iTpbhE-00722-00160144-00160351 um i'm excited
iQbH6iTpbhE-00723-00160352-00160583 serve him and he's called every one of
iQbH6iTpbhE-00724-00160584-00160751 us to sir
iQbH6iTpbhE-00725-00160752-00161199 and we can we can do it amen
iQbH6iTpbhE-00726-00161200-00161359 one is uh
iQbH6iTpbhE-00727-00161360-00161535 begin every day by stepping out in faith
iQbH6iTpbhE-00728-00161536-00161654 and not fear
iQbH6iTpbhE-00729-00161655-00161775 uh uh
iQbH6iTpbhE-00730-00161776-00162151 ii corinthians 5 7 says but we live by
iQbH6iTpbhE-00731-00162152-00162414 believing and not by sin we walk by
iQbH6iTpbhE-00732-00162415-00162647 faith and not by sight
iQbH6iTpbhE-00733-00162648-00162935 that's my writing there for we live by
iQbH6iTpbhE-00734-00162936-00163263 believing his word and not by seeing
iQbH6iTpbhE-00735-00163264-00163447 so it's not just a physical it's a
iQbH6iTpbhE-00736-00163448-00163719 spiritual amen praise god
iQbH6iTpbhE-00737-00163720-00164087 number two is for procrastination
iQbH6iTpbhE-00738-00164088-00164383 uh we want to post on we want to delay
iQbH6iTpbhE-00739-00164384-00164487 we want to
iQbH6iTpbhE-00740-00164488-00164687 put off stall
iQbH6iTpbhE-00741-00164688-00164838 rescheduling
iQbH6iTpbhE-00742-00164839-00165263 and i love this one
iQbH6iTpbhE-00743-00165264-00165519 we use that we're so so openly and so
iQbH6iTpbhE-00744-00165520-00165711 easily
iQbH6iTpbhE-00745-00165712-00165911 remember i told you about the the frogs
iQbH6iTpbhE-00746-00165912-00166095 in the land of egypt
iQbH6iTpbhE-00747-00166096-00166366 god told moses tell pharaoh let my
iQbH6iTpbhE-00748-00166367-00166471 people go
iQbH6iTpbhE-00749-00166472-00166678 he's holding his people
iQbH6iTpbhE-00750-00166679-00167007 he said i want people to be free
iQbH6iTpbhE-00751-00167008-00167166 that they may work they may serve and
iQbH6iTpbhE-00752-00167167-00167383 worship me if they don't i will bring up
iQbH6iTpbhE-00753-00167384-00167631 trouble of the whole country with frogs
iQbH6iTpbhE-00754-00167632-00167871 a plague of frogs
iQbH6iTpbhE-00755-00167872-00168054 so frogs
iQbH6iTpbhE-00756-00168055-00168399 will destroy you pharaoh caused moses
iQbH6iTpbhE-00757-00168400-00168535 i mean there was frogs everywhere
iQbH6iTpbhE-00758-00168536-00168711 everywhere you went sleep whatever
iQbH6iTpbhE-00759-00168712-00168863 whatever you happen to be there's frogs
iQbH6iTpbhE-00760-00168864-00168990 everywhere
iQbH6iTpbhE-00761-00168991-00169231 pharaoh calls moses and the test says
iQbH6iTpbhE-00762-00169232-00169502 pray to the lord and to take the frogs
iQbH6iTpbhE-00763-00169503-00169735 away moses says you tell me when and
iQbH6iTpbhE-00764-00169736-00169854 i'll tell him
iQbH6iTpbhE-00765-00169855-00170119 he says let me think about it uh
iQbH6iTpbhE-00766-00170120-00170326 tomorrow
iQbH6iTpbhE-00767-00170327-00170471 so we got to spend
iQbH6iTpbhE-00768-00170472-00170590 another day
iQbH6iTpbhE-00769-00170591-00170831 another night with the frogs because you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00770-00170832-00170943 decided
iQbH6iTpbhE-00771-00170944-00171119 tomorrow
iQbH6iTpbhE-00772-00171120-00171454 oh what about right now yeah like now
iQbH6iTpbhE-00773-00171455-00171663 i don't want no more frogs i mean he can
iQbH6iTpbhE-00774-00171664-00171911 just say awarded and god have all the
iQbH6iTpbhE-00775-00171912-00172183 problems gone yes but he said he he
iQbH6iTpbhE-00776-00172184-00172431 chose he says instead of today he shows
iQbH6iTpbhE-00777-00172432-00172599 will tomorrow
iQbH6iTpbhE-00778-00172600-00172807 god has given your choices
iQbH6iTpbhE-00779-00172808-00173014 and we have choices
iQbH6iTpbhE-00780-00173015-00173247 the world or god
iQbH6iTpbhE-00781-00173248-00173487 heaven or hell
iQbH6iTpbhE-00782-00173488-00173759 you gain but nobody accept yourself you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00783-00173760-00174038 make the right choices lord help me yeah
iQbH6iTpbhE-00784-00174039-00174151 he'll help you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00785-00174152-00174351 but you got to make the right choices
iQbH6iTpbhE-00786-00174352-00174478 again
iQbH6iTpbhE-00787-00174479-00174614 you don't have to spend one more time
iQbH6iTpbhE-00788-00174615-00174807 with the problems whatever's troubling
iQbH6iTpbhE-00789-00174808-00175014 you whatever's holding you back
iQbH6iTpbhE-00790-00175015-00175278 don't let troubles trouble you you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00791-00175279-00175478 trouble your troubles
iQbH6iTpbhE-00792-00175479-00175766 don't let problems talk to you you speak
iQbH6iTpbhE-00793-00175767-00176023 the word to your problems
iQbH6iTpbhE-00794-00176024-00176263 don't magnify your problem magnify your
iQbH6iTpbhE-00795-00176264-00176478 god but we're always telling god about
iQbH6iTpbhE-00796-00176479-00176702 our big problems we need to tell our
iQbH6iTpbhE-00797-00176703-00177054 problems about our big god
iQbH6iTpbhE-00798-00177055-00177159 amen
iQbH6iTpbhE-00799-00177160-00177326 that's what we do don't magnify the
iQbH6iTpbhE-00800-00177327-00177487 problem magnify your god say wait a
iQbH6iTpbhE-00801-00177488-00177654 minute you ain't nothing compared to my
iQbH6iTpbhE-00802-00177655-00177911 god yes amen that's what uh that's what
iQbH6iTpbhE-00803-00177912-00178151 uh david told goliath
iQbH6iTpbhE-00804-00178152-00178335 you made me big to all these guys they
iQbH6iTpbhE-00805-00178336-00178590 weren't even talking about god until
iQbH6iTpbhE-00806-00178591-00178751 david showed up
iQbH6iTpbhE-00807-00178752-00178902 and we're talking about soldiers man
iQbH6iTpbhE-00808-00178903-00179095 mighty warriors for god i mean for you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00809-00179096-00179166 know
iQbH6iTpbhE-00810-00179167-00179359 israel army
iQbH6iTpbhE-00811-00179360-00179519 not even saul was talking about god
iQbH6iTpbhE-00812-00179520-00179799 until david showed up
iQbH6iTpbhE-00813-00179800-00179951 you know david just a little shepherd
iQbH6iTpbhE-00814-00179952-00180047 boy
iQbH6iTpbhE-00815-00180048-00180175 they put him as the shepherd because
iQbH6iTpbhE-00816-00180176-00180431 they didn't think anything about him
iQbH6iTpbhE-00817-00180432-00180814 and sometimes remember joseph
iQbH6iTpbhE-00818-00180815-00181054 his brother's jealous and they sold him
iQbH6iTpbhE-00819-00181055-00181207 into slavery the one person they want to
iQbH6iTpbhE-00820-00181208-00181326 kill him
iQbH6iTpbhE-00821-00181327-00181599 then they sold him into slavery
iQbH6iTpbhE-00822-00181600-00181854 and after a while long story short
iQbH6iTpbhE-00823-00181855-00182038 they were coming he was second in
iQbH6iTpbhE-00824-00182039-00182326 command and in a in egypt and they were
iQbH6iTpbhE-00825-00182327-00182535 coming to him for food yeah they didn't
iQbH6iTpbhE-00826-00182536-00182735 even recognize him at first but there
iQbH6iTpbhE-00827-00182736-00182911 was a little brother he could have said
iQbH6iTpbhE-00828-00182912-00183190 man i can wipe you guys off
iQbH6iTpbhE-00829-00183191-00183326 but he didn't
iQbH6iTpbhE-00830-00183327-00183478 amen jesus could have done the same
iQbH6iTpbhE-00831-00183479-00183654 thing but he didn't
iQbH6iTpbhE-00832-00183655-00183847 he fulfilled his mission and that's what
iQbH6iTpbhE-00833-00183848-00184078 we need to do fulfill our mission
iQbH6iTpbhE-00834-00184079-00184231 listen
iQbH6iTpbhE-00835-00184232-00184471 magnify your god another problem to the
iQbH6iTpbhE-00836-00184472-00184599 world
iQbH6iTpbhE-00837-00184600-00184895 is big it's a big problem to your god
iQbH6iTpbhE-00838-00184896-00185102 it's not he says if my people which i
iQbH6iTpbhE-00839-00185103-00185271 call my my name shall humble themselves
iQbH6iTpbhE-00840-00185272-00185414 and pray
iQbH6iTpbhE-00841-00185415-00185719 amen we are to pray this war is going
iQbH6iTpbhE-00842-00185720-00185863 all around
iQbH6iTpbhE-00843-00185864-00186047 so how can i help
iQbH6iTpbhE-00844-00186048-00186199 pray
iQbH6iTpbhE-00845-00186200-00186399 it'll reach it'll touch god amen
iQbH6iTpbhE-00846-00186400-00186631 remember paul and silas they say
iQbH6iTpbhE-00847-00186632-00186783 and jesus hurt him
iQbH6iTpbhE-00848-00186784-00186966 and he shows up
iQbH6iTpbhE-00849-00186967-00187135 amen so guess what
iQbH6iTpbhE-00850-00187136-00187335 when you're praying when you spend time
iQbH6iTpbhE-00851-00187336-00187535 when you're spending time with him
iQbH6iTpbhE-00852-00187536-00187750 when you're spending time with him uh
iQbH6iTpbhE-00853-00187751-00187902 don't give up
iQbH6iTpbhE-00854-00187903-00188119 because he's listening
iQbH6iTpbhE-00855-00188120-00188302 he's listening amen
iQbH6iTpbhE-00856-00188303-00188519 he hears and he shall how do we know he
iQbH6iTpbhE-00857-00188520-00188766 hears well what paul and sila is saying
iQbH6iTpbhE-00858-00188767-00188943 he shows up
iQbH6iTpbhE-00859-00188944-00189135 and all the cell doors
iQbH6iTpbhE-00860-00189136-00189319 were wide open
iQbH6iTpbhE-00861-00189320-00189526 and the jailer is going to kill himself
iQbH6iTpbhE-00862-00189527-00189695 he says we're all here don't kill
iQbH6iTpbhE-00863-00189696-00189887 yourself
iQbH6iTpbhE-00864-00189888-00190087 well god
iQbH6iTpbhE-00865-00190088-00190431 has no death ears okay he hears
iQbH6iTpbhE-00866-00190432-00190647 so don't procrastinate any longer just
iQbH6iTpbhE-00867-00190648-00190983 do it it's not nike is god it says just
iQbH6iTpbhE-00868-00190984-00191126 do it now
iQbH6iTpbhE-00869-00191127-00191311 procrastination has been exposed and
iQbH6iTpbhE-00870-00191312-00191711 removed putting off until later
iQbH6iTpbhE-00871-00191712-00191902 should be done right now don't don't do
iQbH6iTpbhE-00872-00191903-00192126 it don't delay any longer enter what god
iQbH6iTpbhE-00873-00192127-00192414 has for you and god has something for
iQbH6iTpbhE-00874-00192415-00192526 you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00875-00192527-00192663 amen
iQbH6iTpbhE-00876-00192664-00192775 he does
iQbH6iTpbhE-00877-00192776-00192911 but we need to spend time with him
iQbH6iTpbhE-00878-00192912-00193111 listen to this procrastinators
iQbH6iTpbhE-00879-00193112-00193287 uh responded is
iQbH6iTpbhE-00880-00193288-00193463 as soon as i
iQbH6iTpbhE-00881-00193464-00193575 graduate
iQbH6iTpbhE-00882-00193576-00193790 from high school as soon as i graduate
iQbH6iTpbhE-00883-00193791-00193926 from college
iQbH6iTpbhE-00884-00193927-00194095 or as soon as i get my degree as soon as
iQbH6iTpbhE-00885-00194096-00194343 i'm married as soon as my children are
iQbH6iTpbhE-00886-00194344-00194511 growing and going
iQbH6iTpbhE-00887-00194512-00194599 yeah
iQbH6iTpbhE-00888-00194600-00194719 as soon as
iQbH6iTpbhE-00889-00194720-00195079 as soon as i retire and have more time
iQbH6iTpbhE-00890-00195080-00195550 [Music]
iQbH6iTpbhE-00891-00195551-00195807 by then it's too late
iQbH6iTpbhE-00892-00195808-00196126 just be so not to god now amen give
iQbH6iTpbhE-00893-00196127-00196390 surrender totally to him on a daily
iQbH6iTpbhE-00894-00196391-00196535 basis
iQbH6iTpbhE-00895-00196536-00196783 amen it's all you gotta do
iQbH6iTpbhE-00896-00196784-00196999 but if you're not feeding on the word
iQbH6iTpbhE-00897-00197000-00197190 the world is gonna distract you the
iQbH6iTpbhE-00898-00197191-00197375 world's gonna pull you down and you're
iQbH6iTpbhE-00899-00197376-00197559 gonna start seeing problems
iQbH6iTpbhE-00900-00197560-00197743 on your own instead of giving your
iQbH6iTpbhE-00901-00197744-00197950 problems to god
iQbH6iTpbhE-00902-00197951-00198150 instead of
iQbH6iTpbhE-00903-00198151-00198295 you giving your troubles to him your
iQbH6iTpbhE-00904-00198296-00198478 troubles are going to trouble you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00905-00198479-00198647 well you could just say
iQbH6iTpbhE-00906-00198648-00198847 lord i cast all my cares all my worries
iQbH6iTpbhE-00907-00198848-00199038 on you because you care for me that's
iQbH6iTpbhE-00908-00199039-00199214 what he tells us to do
iQbH6iTpbhE-00909-00199215-00199478 but we don't and we need to i'm talking
iQbH6iTpbhE-00910-00199479-00199559 about
iQbH6iTpbhE-00911-00199560-00199687 christians
iQbH6iTpbhE-00912-00199688-00199790 you know
iQbH6iTpbhE-00913-00199791-00199926 be a
iQbH6iTpbhE-00914-00199927-00200119 victorious christian not a defeated
iQbH6iTpbhE-00915-00200120-00200223 christian
iQbH6iTpbhE-00916-00200224-00200695 amen
iQbH6iTpbhE-00917-00200696-00200935 today is the day of salvation
iQbH6iTpbhE-00918-00200936-00201190 uh six uh corinthians uh six one through
iQbH6iTpbhE-00919-00201191-00201431 two says this where he says i have heard
iQbH6iTpbhE-00920-00201432-00201614 you in a time
iQbH6iTpbhE-00921-00201615-00201895 accepted and in the times and
iQbH6iTpbhE-00922-00201896-00202166 in the day of salvation have i helped
iQbH6iTpbhE-00923-00202167-00202238 you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00924-00202239-00202583 behold now is accepted times be behold
iQbH6iTpbhE-00925-00202584-00202871 now is a day of salvation
iQbH6iTpbhE-00926-00202872-00203063 so you know some of us some of you
iQbH6iTpbhE-00927-00203064-00203399 listening some of you watching
iQbH6iTpbhE-00928-00203400-00203607 now's the time to receive him as your
iQbH6iTpbhE-00929-00203608-00203799 lord and savior maybe you've never asked
iQbH6iTpbhE-00930-00203800-00203975 him in your life but you know why put it
iQbH6iTpbhE-00931-00203976-00204175 off anymore now is the time we're
iQbH6iTpbhE-00932-00204176-00204335 putting it off
iQbH6iTpbhE-00933-00204336-00204631 because tomorrow is not guaranteed
iQbH6iTpbhE-00934-00204632-00204879 amen all you need to do is just ask him
iQbH6iTpbhE-00935-00204880-00205031 to come into your life be your lord and
iQbH6iTpbhE-00936-00205032-00205294 savior amen indeed god is ready to help
iQbH6iTpbhE-00937-00205296-00205551 you now right now today is a day of
iQbH6iTpbhE-00938-00205552-00205806 salvation they'll put off tomorrow what
iQbH6iTpbhE-00939-00205807-00206079 we need to be done today there's always
iQbH6iTpbhE-00940-00206080-00206238 tomorrow
iQbH6iTpbhE-00941-00206239-00206462 it's one of the biggest lies the devil
iQbH6iTpbhE-00942-00206463-00206614 has ever told
iQbH6iTpbhE-00943-00206615-00206862 manana tomorrow
iQbH6iTpbhE-00944-00206863-00206998 is always
iQbH6iTpbhE-00945-00207000-00207214 the day
iQbH6iTpbhE-00946-00207215-00207566 because when you went to tomorrow manana
iQbH6iTpbhE-00947-00207567-00207855 when manana comes it's going to be today
iQbH6iTpbhE-00948-00207856-00208086 so this is the day it says the lord has
iQbH6iTpbhE-00949-00208087-00208198 made it
iQbH6iTpbhE-00950-00208200-00208467 let us rejoice and be glad in it amen so
iQbH6iTpbhE-00951-00208469-00208606 [Music]
iQbH6iTpbhE-00952-00208607-00208927 don't be troubled by what is out there
iQbH6iTpbhE-00953-00208928-00209094 just know that
iQbH6iTpbhE-00954-00209096-00209334 i can rejoice and be glad in it each and
iQbH6iTpbhE-00955-00209335-00209623 every day because god is with me
iQbH6iTpbhE-00956-00209623-00209823 and with god i can't win i mean i can't
iQbH6iTpbhE-00957-00209823-00210223 lose with god i win all the time we're
iQbH6iTpbhE-00958-00210223-00210463 on god's winning team
iQbH6iTpbhE-00959-00210464-00210687 yesterday's gone and today
iQbH6iTpbhE-00960-00210688-00210894 tomorrow excuse me yesterday's gone
iQbH6iTpbhE-00961-00210896-00211158 tomorrow may never come summer 1824 says
iQbH6iTpbhE-00962-00211159-00211431 what this is the day lord has made
iQbH6iTpbhE-00963-00211432-00211510 i
iQbH6iTpbhE-00964-00211511-00211727 and you can put your name there jose
iQbH6iTpbhE-00965-00211728-00211951 will rejoice and be glad in it it is now
iQbH6iTpbhE-00966-00211952-00212215 it's today not tomorrow
iQbH6iTpbhE-00967-00212216-00212382 but now
iQbH6iTpbhE-00968-00212383-00212679 be used of god
iQbH6iTpbhE-00969-00212680-00212887 don't say any longer
iQbH6iTpbhE-00970-00212888-00213031 amen
iQbH6iTpbhE-00971-00213032-00213215 when you release words you give them
iQbH6iTpbhE-00972-00213216-00213471 power yeah
iQbH6iTpbhE-00973-00213471-00213639 when you give them power whether
iQbH6iTpbhE-00974-00213640-00213806 positive or negative you're going to
iQbH6iTpbhE-00975-00213807-00214071 have what you're saying that's it
iQbH6iTpbhE-00976-00214071-00214246 so don't release don't be so quick to
iQbH6iTpbhE-00977-00214248-00214527 release words
iQbH6iTpbhE-00978-00214528-00214791 because words are seeds and words have
iQbH6iTpbhE-00979-00214792-00214951 power
iQbH6iTpbhE-00980-00214952-00215431 amen let's go here again
iQbH6iTpbhE-00981-00215432-00215575 proverbs
iQbH6iTpbhE-00982-00215576-00215855 proverbs
iQbH6iTpbhE-00983-00215856-00216853 18
iQbH6iTpbhE-00984-00216854-00216967 [Music]
iQbH6iTpbhE-00985-00216967-00217082 powers 18
iQbH6iTpbhE-00986-00217083-00217423 21. you there
iQbH6iTpbhE-00987-00217423-00217623 it says death and life of what in the
iQbH6iTpbhE-00988-00217623-00217919 power of the power of the tongue
iQbH6iTpbhE-00989-00217919-00218006 and
iQbH6iTpbhE-00990-00218007-00218246 they that love it shall eat the fruit
iQbH6iTpbhE-00991-00218248-00218503 thereof everybody says death and life
iQbH6iTpbhE-00992-00218504-00218646 are in the power of the tongue and they
iQbH6iTpbhE-00993-00218648-00218958 who indulge in it shall eat the fruit of
iQbH6iTpbhE-00994-00218959-00219334 it for death and or death or life
iQbH6iTpbhE-00995-00219335-00219615 yeah i mean the power of the tongue so
iQbH6iTpbhE-00996-00219616-00219903 how what do we use to speak words
iQbH6iTpbhE-00997-00219904-00220031 or tongues
iQbH6iTpbhE-00998-00220032-00220206 so death of life are in the power of
iQbH6iTpbhE-00999-00220207-00220391 your words yes you're going to have
iQbH6iTpbhE-01000-00220392-00220671 positive or negative yes but you're
iQbH6iTpbhE-01001-00220671-00220863 you're the one you you got your word
iQbH6iTpbhE-01002-00220864-00221055 going on and you're you're shooting your
iQbH6iTpbhE-01003-00221056-00221198 work gun
iQbH6iTpbhE-01004-00221200-00221358 so what are you shooting negative or
iQbH6iTpbhE-01005-00221359-00221582 positive yeah the choice is yours but
iQbH6iTpbhE-01006-00221583-00221775 you're going to have what you say that's
iQbH6iTpbhE-01007-00221776-00221975 it
iQbH6iTpbhE-01008-00221976-00222255 man
iQbH6iTpbhE-01009-00222256-00222406 that'll wake me up
iQbH6iTpbhE-01010-00222407-00222631 wake me up there you go yeah i had to
iQbH6iTpbhE-01011-00222632-00222863 give it to him well you might think that
iQbH6iTpbhE-01012-00222864-00223071 you gave it to him and they heard it
iQbH6iTpbhE-01013-00223071-00223239 but it's going to come back on yes it
iQbH6iTpbhE-01014-00223240-00223415 will it's going to come right back at
iQbH6iTpbhE-01015-00223416-00223450 you
iQbH6iTpbhE-01016-00223451-00223679 [Music]
iQbH6iTpbhE-01017-00223680-00223855 be used of god
iQbH6iTpbhE-01018-00223856-00224046 uh at home
iQbH6iTpbhE-01019-00224048-00224423 well you know i'm just a home person
iQbH6iTpbhE-01020-00224423-00224615 well you know you could pray
iQbH6iTpbhE-01021-00224616-00224727 yes
iQbH6iTpbhE-01022-00224728-00225023 you can call somebody lord put somebody
iQbH6iTpbhE-01023-00225023-00225223 on your yours in your in your heart and
iQbH6iTpbhE-01024-00225223-00225471 your spirit and say call
iQbH6iTpbhE-01025-00225471-00225719 sister so-and-so go call whatever you
iQbH6iTpbhE-01026-00225719-00225934 know and and call them up and say i was
iQbH6iTpbhE-01027-00225935-00226127 thinking about you i want to pray for
iQbH6iTpbhE-01028-00226128-00226351 you yes i just wanted to know what a
iQbH6iTpbhE-01029-00226352-00226582 blessing you are yes oh yeah wow they
iQbH6iTpbhE-01030-00226583-00226942 really make their their day you know
iQbH6iTpbhE-01031-00226944-00227151 god will use you at the store
iQbH6iTpbhE-01032-00227152-00227358 at church you know i've heard a lot of
iQbH6iTpbhE-01033-00227359-00227494 native things
iQbH6iTpbhE-01034-00227496-00227646 are being discussed
iQbH6iTpbhE-01035-00227648-00227782 at the store
iQbH6iTpbhE-01036-00227783-00227927 and they weren't saying people all
iQbH6iTpbhE-01037-00227928-00228087 around them hearing what they have to
iQbH6iTpbhE-01038-00228088-00228231 say
iQbH6iTpbhE-01039-00228232-00228487 so why can't we stop and pray for
iQbH6iTpbhE-01040-00228488-00228694 somebody at the store oh you know let's
iQbH6iTpbhE-01041-00228696-00228991 go hide somewhere well you know what hey
iQbH6iTpbhE-01042-00228992-00229206 this is a good one
iQbH6iTpbhE-01043-00229207-00229494 i'll pray for you today
iQbH6iTpbhE-01044-00229496-00229767 yeah right do it now let's do it now
iQbH6iTpbhE-01045-00229767-00229991 what's wrong with it now
iQbH6iTpbhE-01046-00229992-00230142 they don't need it
iQbH6iTpbhE-01047-00230144-00230342 or you don't forget anyway so and you
iQbH6iTpbhE-01048-00230344-00230455 didn't want to do it anyway you just
iQbH6iTpbhE-01049-00230456-00230606 said it just to get him
iQbH6iTpbhE-01050-00230607-00230791 you know get rid of him
iQbH6iTpbhE-01051-00230792-00231055 sometimes i ask you to person somebody
iQbH6iTpbhE-01052-00231056-00231439 you don't
iQbH6iTpbhE-01053-00231440-00231719 excuse me can i pray for you
iQbH6iTpbhE-01054-00231719-00231927 uh
iQbH6iTpbhE-01055-00231928-00232175 come on just
iQbH6iTpbhE-01056-00232176-00232271 who
iQbH6iTpbhE-01057-00232271-00232503 is the god at church
iQbH6iTpbhE-01058-00232504-00232719 yeah children's there's
iQbH6iTpbhE-01059-00232719-00232942 there's a lot of places you know we used
iQbH6iTpbhE-01060-00232944-00233094 to teach uh
iQbH6iTpbhE-01061-00233096-00233367 nobody knows this you know
iQbH6iTpbhE-01062-00233367-00233631 we have a ministry called the ministry
iQbH6iTpbhE-01063-00233632-00233831 of helps yes
iQbH6iTpbhE-01064-00233832-00234134 and in the church is a ministry of
iQbH6iTpbhE-01065-00234135-00234423 health pastor can't do it all that's it
iQbH6iTpbhE-01066-00234423-00234719 you know so he needs a team of helps
iQbH6iTpbhE-01067-00234719-00234903 to help him you know with the the praise
iQbH6iTpbhE-01068-00234904-00235134 of the praise team
iQbH6iTpbhE-01069-00235135-00235367 the greeters the ushers
iQbH6iTpbhE-01070-00235367-00235671 children's workers nursery workers all
iQbH6iTpbhE-01071-00235671-00235855 these help
iQbH6iTpbhE-01072-00235856-00236006 so you know if you've got a big church
iQbH6iTpbhE-01073-00236007-00236158 you've got a parking attendance out
iQbH6iTpbhE-01074-00236159-00236351 there yeah and you know i used to do
iQbH6iTpbhE-01075-00236352-00236567 that say well what am i doing out there
iQbH6iTpbhE-01076-00236567-00236710 you know i miss you know here's the
iQbH6iTpbhE-01077-00236711-00236927 thing the enemy wants to use
iQbH6iTpbhE-01078-00236928-00237198 i'm missing the service
iQbH6iTpbhE-01079-00237200-00237415 i'd rather be in there so i'm ticked off
iQbH6iTpbhE-01080-00237416-00237710 because i'm out here yeah no you know
iQbH6iTpbhE-01081-00237711-00237815 when you
iQbH6iTpbhE-01082-00237816-00237958 fill yourself with the word of god and
iQbH6iTpbhE-01083-00237959-00238167 you see somebody drawing love
iQbH6iTpbhE-01084-00238167-00238431 or you're greeting somebody at the door
iQbH6iTpbhE-01085-00238432-00238575 you're praying for them and you put a
iQbH6iTpbhE-01086-00238576-00238815 smile on you saying welcome you know
iQbH6iTpbhE-01087-00238816-00238991 so glad you're here
iQbH6iTpbhE-01088-00238992-00239094 you know
iQbH6iTpbhE-01089-00239096-00239294 go in you know and uh
iQbH6iTpbhE-01090-00239296-00239479 and and be blessed
iQbH6iTpbhE-01091-00239480-00239623 your children in children's church
iQbH6iTpbhE-01092-00239623-00239775 they're going to be blessed but in the
iQbH6iTpbhE-01093-00239776-00239951 nursery they're going to be blessed yeah
iQbH6iTpbhE-01094-00239952-00240175 put lay hands on them pray for them
iQbH6iTpbhE-01095-00240176-00240406 children teach them the word of god you
iQbH6iTpbhE-01096-00240407-00240663 know the attendant used to pray over
iQbH6iTpbhE-01097-00240664-00240846 over cars you know some people come to
iQbH6iTpbhE-01098-00240848-00241063 church they did not have the best of
iQbH6iTpbhE-01099-00241064-00241294 cards you know but still you pray and
iQbH6iTpbhE-01100-00241296-00241455 say lord bless them with a better
iQbH6iTpbhE-01101-00241456-00241719 vehicle though yeah you know or just
iQbH6iTpbhE-01102-00241719-00241934 pray on the vehicles out there and say
iQbH6iTpbhE-01103-00241935-00242131 lord protect them when they go home
iQbH6iTpbhE-01104-00242132-00242263 [Music]
iQbH6iTpbhE-01105-00242264-00242487 protect them wherever they happen to go
iQbH6iTpbhE-01106-00242488-00242710 be with them lord you know that's
iQbH6iTpbhE-01107-00242711-00242871 ministry yes
iQbH6iTpbhE-01108-00242871-00242975 amen
iQbH6iTpbhE-01109-00242976-00243079 and they
iQbH6iTpbhE-01110-00243080-00243319 are at ease they go and sit to receive
iQbH6iTpbhE-01111-00243319-00243679 whatever god has for them amen amen
iQbH6iTpbhE-01112-00243680-00243855 and you made it possible
iQbH6iTpbhE-01113-00243856-00244134 for pastor to preach his message
iQbH6iTpbhE-01114-00244135-00244327 or you know or whoever the speaker
iQbH6iTpbhE-01115-00244328-00244542 happens to be the preacher message to
iQbH6iTpbhE-01116-00244544-00244806 people that are carefree yeah they know
iQbH6iTpbhE-01117-00244807-00244975 their cars being taken care of they know
iQbH6iTpbhE-01118-00244976-00245142 their children's being taken care of
iQbH6iTpbhE-01119-00245144-00245542 they're babies or whatever it may be yes
iQbH6iTpbhE-01120-00245544-00245663 amen
iQbH6iTpbhE-01121-00245664-00245934 and you're still doing ministry yeah you
iQbH6iTpbhE-01122-00245935-00246103 know he's called he says the fifo
iQbH6iTpbhE-01123-00246104-00246246 minister the apostle the prophet
iQbH6iTpbhE-01124-00246248-00246471 evangelist pastor teacher well i'm not
iQbH6iTpbhE-01125-00246471-00246742 one of them which all of us have been
iQbH6iTpbhE-01126-00246744-00246991 called to the ministry of helps
iQbH6iTpbhE-01127-00246992-00247230 a ministry of records
iQbH6iTpbhE-01128-00247231-00247575 amen sharing the word of god yeah being
iQbH6iTpbhE-01129-00247576-00247798 an ambassador for god meaning you're his
iQbH6iTpbhE-01130-00247800-00248087 mouthpiece wherever you happen to go
iQbH6iTpbhE-01131-00248088-00248198 hello
iQbH6iTpbhE-01132-00248200-00248415 yeah some of us didn't know these things
iQbH6iTpbhE-01133-00248416-00248598 but now you do so what are you going to
iQbH6iTpbhE-01134-00248600-00248710 do about it
iQbH6iTpbhE-01135-00248711-00248863 you know go back to pastor and says
iQbH6iTpbhE-01136-00248864-00249110 pastor why can i help you
iQbH6iTpbhE-01137-00249111-00249294 don't just go there and say well hey
iQbH6iTpbhE-01138-00249296-00249623 look i want to be at a price team well i
iQbH6iTpbhE-01139-00249623-00249855 want to be this i want to be that
iQbH6iTpbhE-01140-00249856-00250030 well
iQbH6iTpbhE-01141-00250031-00250198 that might be that may not be the way
iQbH6iTpbhE-01142-00250200-00250382 pastor needs help pastor whether you
iQbH6iTpbhE-01143-00250383-00250598 need help how can i help you not right
iQbH6iTpbhE-01144-00250600-00250719 now
iQbH6iTpbhE-01145-00250719-00250871 you know i want to help you where you
iQbH6iTpbhE-01146-00250871-00251030 need help yes
iQbH6iTpbhE-01147-00251031-00251215 you know that's how we got involved in
iQbH6iTpbhE-01148-00251216-00251391 children's church because yeah nobody
iQbH6iTpbhE-01149-00251392-00251606 wants to teach children no say
iQbH6iTpbhE-01150-00251607-00251839 hey i just go dump it off you know
iQbH6iTpbhE-01151-00251840-00252071 just go dump them off and
iQbH6iTpbhE-01152-00252071-00252215 you're not dumping them off you know
iQbH6iTpbhE-01153-00252216-00252487 like i just shared with you earlier
iQbH6iTpbhE-01154-00252488-00252687 we taught children's church for 30
iQbH6iTpbhE-01155-00252688-00252919 something years
iQbH6iTpbhE-01156-00252919-00253063 and i said well i guess this is our
iQbH6iTpbhE-01157-00253064-00253223 calling you know just to be with
iQbH6iTpbhE-01158-00253223-00253382 children but still
iQbH6iTpbhE-01159-00253383-00253575 we taught them the word of god we just
iQbH6iTpbhE-01160-00253576-00253727 didn't
iQbH6iTpbhE-01161-00253728-00253894 entertain children or babies and
iQbH6iTpbhE-01162-00253896-00254063 children
iQbH6iTpbhE-01163-00254064-00254230 we taught them the word we had lessons
iQbH6iTpbhE-01164-00254231-00254663 for them and they participated yes
iQbH6iTpbhE-01165-00254664-00254998 and parents came back and said
iQbH6iTpbhE-01166-00255000-00255223 were sending our kids to
iQbH6iTpbhE-01167-00255223-00255391 the children's church
iQbH6iTpbhE-01168-00255392-00255751 to get rid of them so we can have time
iQbH6iTpbhE-01169-00255752-00256079 but our children are coming back chains
iQbH6iTpbhE-01170-00256080-00256158 and they
iQbH6iTpbhE-01171-00256159-00256446 sing it and they quote scripture
iQbH6iTpbhE-01172-00256448-00256575 and
iQbH6iTpbhE-01173-00256576-00256719 you know you've done with our children
iQbH6iTpbhE-01174-00256719-00256910 what we couldn't do
iQbH6iTpbhE-01175-00256911-00257119 what is it you're doing parents coming
iQbH6iTpbhE-01176-00257119-00257382 to see us and parents
iQbH6iTpbhE-01177-00257383-00257639 getting saved and parents changing and
iQbH6iTpbhE-01178-00257640-00257863 coming to church now because children
iQbH6iTpbhE-01179-00257864-00258151 came home changed yes because of
iQbH6iTpbhE-01180-00258152-00258358 children's church yes
iQbH6iTpbhE-01181-00258359-00258615 and you were ministering to them amen so
iQbH6iTpbhE-01182-00258616-00258791 i'm not wasting time we're not wasting
iQbH6iTpbhE-01183-00258792-00258975 time we're not entertaining
iQbH6iTpbhE-01184-00258976-00259198 we're being empowered yes amen we're
iQbH6iTpbhE-01185-00259200-00259358 god's harmony we're being empowered to
iQbH6iTpbhE-01186-00259359-00259639 do what god has called us to do yeah
iQbH6iTpbhE-01187-00259640-00260046 amen praise god am i talking too much no
iQbH6iTpbhE-01188-00260048-00260151 that's good
iQbH6iTpbhE-01189-00260152-00260423 but god is telling us to pray for that
iQbH6iTpbhE-01190-00260423-00260615 person
iQbH6iTpbhE-01191-00260616-00260767 you have the answer
iQbH6iTpbhE-01192-00260767-00260967 yes you can pray we can pray right now
iQbH6iTpbhE-01193-00260967-00261103 right you know you ever been around
iQbH6iTpbhE-01194-00261104-00261327 somebody that's limping
iQbH6iTpbhE-01195-00261328-00261567 you have been around somebody that needs
iQbH6iTpbhE-01196-00261567-00261703 prayer
iQbH6iTpbhE-01197-00261704-00261927 you know complaining aging
iQbH6iTpbhE-01198-00261928-00262175 just walk up to them and say excuse me
iQbH6iTpbhE-01199-00262176-00262358 can i pray for you
iQbH6iTpbhE-01200-00262359-00262543 then they're going to say no i want to
iQbH6iTpbhE-01201-00262544-00262647 pray for you
iQbH6iTpbhE-01202-00262648-00262855 and lay hands on them says lay hands on
iQbH6iTpbhE-01203-00262856-00262975 the sick and
iQbH6iTpbhE-01204-00262976-00263247 they shall recover amen god's usually i
iQbH6iTpbhE-01205-00263248-00263399 mean the power of god is going right
iQbH6iTpbhE-01206-00263400-00263630 through me yeah he's got power man
iQbH6iTpbhE-01207-00263631-00263791 power's going through
iQbH6iTpbhE-01208-00263792-00264079 the lady with the issue of blood
iQbH6iTpbhE-01209-00264080-00264191 jesus is
iQbH6iTpbhE-01210-00264192-00264375 walking in the crowd and people bumping
iQbH6iTpbhE-01211-00264376-00264575 them all over him
iQbH6iTpbhE-01212-00264576-00264767 but when the lady touch him he says if i
iQbH6iTpbhE-01213-00264768-00265030 could only touch on him
iQbH6iTpbhE-01214-00265031-00265119 yes
iQbH6iTpbhE-01215-00265120-00265271 and she did she touched the head of his
iQbH6iTpbhE-01216-00265272-00265439 garbage he didn't even touch him yeah i
iQbH6iTpbhE-01217-00265440-00265519 said
iQbH6iTpbhE-01218-00265520-00265671 you touch your clothes
iQbH6iTpbhE-01219-00265672-00265823 yes
iQbH6iTpbhE-01220-00265824-00266055 and jesus felt something he says wait he
iQbH6iTpbhE-01221-00266056-00266279 told the title said wait somebody touch
iQbH6iTpbhE-01222-00266280-00266391 me
iQbH6iTpbhE-01223-00266392-00266582 what are you talking about people are
iQbH6iTpbhE-01224-00266583-00266767 hitting you and bumping you all
iQbH6iTpbhE-01225-00266768-00266943 in this crowd
iQbH6iTpbhE-01226-00266944-00267063 he knew
iQbH6iTpbhE-01227-00267064-00267295 virtue he knew the unknown team came out
iQbH6iTpbhE-01228-00267296-00267510 of it yes amen
iQbH6iTpbhE-01229-00267511-00267687 and she was ready to receive we need to
iQbH6iTpbhE-01230-00267688-00267879 do the same thing
iQbH6iTpbhE-01231-00267880-00268023 and the power of god is going to flow
iQbH6iTpbhE-01232-00268024-00268167 right through your hands and lay hands
iQbH6iTpbhE-01233-00268168-00268351 on them and they're going to be
iQbH6iTpbhE-01234-00268352-00268751 healed amen yes
iQbH6iTpbhE-01235-00268752-00268958 what will you do jesus healed on the
iQbH6iTpbhE-01236-00268959-00269087 sabbath day
iQbH6iTpbhE-01237-00269088-00269287 he didn't care
iQbH6iTpbhE-01238-00269288-00269447 he didn't care
iQbH6iTpbhE-01239-00269448-00269615 he laid hands on him and said heal the
iQbH6iTpbhE-01240-00269616-00269767 man
iQbH6iTpbhE-01241-00269768-00269999 and uh
iQbH6iTpbhE-01242-00270000-00270167 he says which one of you he says which
iQbH6iTpbhE-01243-00270168-00270430 one of you if your oxen falls in a hole
iQbH6iTpbhE-01244-00270431-00270710 are you just gonna stay there yeah
iQbH6iTpbhE-01245-00270711-00270975 he gave him a couple of examples
iQbH6iTpbhE-01246-00270976-00271134 are you gonna do this you know
iQbH6iTpbhE-01247-00271135-00271351 even if on the sabbath he says
iQbH6iTpbhE-01248-00271352-00271551 he that's all he said they were guilty
iQbH6iTpbhE-01249-00271552-00271727 enough yeah
iQbH6iTpbhE-01250-00271728-00271863 they didn't have an answer so you know
iQbH6iTpbhE-01251-00271864-00271967 what they did
iQbH6iTpbhE-01252-00271968-00272127 they didn't say anything yeah but they
iQbH6iTpbhE-01253-00272128-00272310 knew that was wrong
iQbH6iTpbhE-01254-00272311-00272630 you know religion
iQbH6iTpbhE-01255-00272631-00272758 has
iQbH6iTpbhE-01256-00272759-00272982 religion is a whole lot of
iQbH6iTpbhE-01257-00272983-00273103 rules
iQbH6iTpbhE-01258-00273104-00273247 and a little bit of god
iQbH6iTpbhE-01259-00273248-00273382 yes
iQbH6iTpbhE-01260-00273383-00273663 christianity is all about him
iQbH6iTpbhE-01261-00273664-00273958 amen
iQbH6iTpbhE-01262-00273959-00274271 guess what we're not going to finish
iQbH6iTpbhE-01263-00274272-00274487 how many
iQbH6iTpbhE-01264-00274488-00274703 god bless how many blessings do you miss
iQbH6iTpbhE-01265-00274704-00274951 simply because
iQbH6iTpbhE-01266-00274952-00275110 we fear
iQbH6iTpbhE-01267-00275111-00275382 god said say something and you feared
iQbH6iTpbhE-01268-00275383-00275510 and you didn't want to
iQbH6iTpbhE-01269-00275511-00275719 hurt you you didn't want to hurt him or
iQbH6iTpbhE-01270-00275720-00275847 you didn't want to
iQbH6iTpbhE-01271-00275848-00276119 expose yourself yeah and let people hear
iQbH6iTpbhE-01272-00276120-00276358 you oh man you're one of them
iQbH6iTpbhE-01273-00276359-00276479 yeah
iQbH6iTpbhE-01274-00276480-00276639 you're one of them you're one of them
iQbH6iTpbhE-01275-00276640-00276839 christians yes
iQbH6iTpbhE-01276-00276840-00277103 fear or you know what procrastinate the
iQbH6iTpbhE-01277-00277104-00277279 voice is lay hands on right now pray for
iQbH6iTpbhE-01278-00277280-00277351 them
iQbH6iTpbhE-01279-00277352-00277487 oh you know what
iQbH6iTpbhE-01280-00277488-00277639 i'm having you know i got to be
iQbH6iTpbhE-01281-00277640-00277815 somewhere right now he says but you know
iQbH6iTpbhE-01282-00277816-00277967 on the on the way to work on the way
iQbH6iTpbhE-01283-00277968-00278215 where i'm going i'll pray for you
iQbH6iTpbhE-01284-00278216-00278423 why didn't you procrastinate when god
iQbH6iTpbhE-01285-00278424-00278615 says lay your hands on him right now
iQbH6iTpbhE-01286-00278616-00278775 he's ready to
iQbH6iTpbhE-01287-00278776-00278999 heal him right there and you say later
iQbH6iTpbhE-01288-00279000-00279143 later later
iQbH6iTpbhE-01289-00279144-00279310 you're running you're procrastinating
iQbH6iTpbhE-01290-00279311-00279439 yeah
iQbH6iTpbhE-01291-00279440-00279687 and the last one is this failure
iQbH6iTpbhE-01292-00279688-00279879 failure is discouragement disappointment
iQbH6iTpbhE-01293-00279880-00280082 distractions let down
iQbH6iTpbhE-01294-00280083-00280358 setbacks yeah we're afraid you know
iQbH6iTpbhE-01295-00280359-00280575 people is always relatable to your
iQbH6iTpbhE-01296-00280576-00280751 failure
iQbH6iTpbhE-01297-00280752-00280975 and you have received it and you've
iQbH6iTpbhE-01298-00280976-00281215 taken it over
iQbH6iTpbhE-01299-00281216-00281471 it's time that you let it go yes yes
iQbH6iTpbhE-01300-00281472-00281663 you're not opinion if you know what the
iQbH6iTpbhE-01301-00281664-00281830 word of god says about you
iQbH6iTpbhE-01302-00281831-00281975 don't let people call you those things
iQbH6iTpbhE-01303-00281976-00282143 anymore yes
iQbH6iTpbhE-01304-00282144-00282310 you know i said i'm not receiving that
iQbH6iTpbhE-01305-00282311-00282567 i'm not a president
iQbH6iTpbhE-01306-00282568-00282791 god called jeremiah when he was a little
iQbH6iTpbhE-01307-00282792-00282927 bitty guy
iQbH6iTpbhE-01308-00282928-00283182 amen the lord called jeremiah as a young
iQbH6iTpbhE-01309-00283183-00283391 man chose him and anointed him before he
iQbH6iTpbhE-01310-00283392-00283663 was born chose him before he was even
iQbH6iTpbhE-01311-00283664-00283855 formed you know in the womb
iQbH6iTpbhE-01312-00283856-00284167 to fulfill a worldwide ministry yes
iQbH6iTpbhE-01313-00284168-00284447 he has called every one of us yes he has
iQbH6iTpbhE-01314-00284448-00284615 great plans for you none of them include
iQbH6iTpbhE-01315-00284616-00284815 defeat that's it right
iQbH6iTpbhE-01316-00284816-00285103 and of course
iQbH6iTpbhE-01317-00285104-00285327 that you know what let's go to this uh
iQbH6iTpbhE-01318-00285328-00285551 philippians our last scripture
iQbH6iTpbhE-01319-00285552-00285695 philippians
iQbH6iTpbhE-01320-00285696-00285879 4 13.
iQbH6iTpbhE-01321-00285880-00286087 we voted all the time but i want to read
iQbH6iTpbhE-01322-00286088-00286399 it to you in the amplified
iQbH6iTpbhE-01323-00286400-00286767 philippians 4 13.
iQbH6iTpbhE-01324-00286768-00287023 you can all say it oh yeah
iQbH6iTpbhE-01325-00287024-00287591 philippians 4 13 uh says
iQbH6iTpbhE-01326-00287592-00287903 i can do all things through christ who
iQbH6iTpbhE-01327-00287904-00288206 strengthens me i yes christ i put your
iQbH6iTpbhE-01328-00288207-00288447 name there jose can do all things
iQbH6iTpbhE-01329-00288448-00288623 through christ and strengthen us okay
iQbH6iTpbhE-01330-00288624-00288854 the amplified says this the amplified
iQbH6iTpbhE-01331-00288855-00289182 says i have strength for all things in
iQbH6iTpbhE-01332-00289183-00289519 christ who empowers me
iQbH6iTpbhE-01333-00289520-00289734 i am ready for anything
iQbH6iTpbhE-01334-00289735-00290151 and equal to anything through him who
iQbH6iTpbhE-01335-00290152-00290454 infuses inner strength into me
iQbH6iTpbhE-01336-00290455-00290743 i am self-sufficient
iQbH6iTpbhE-01337-00290744-00291119 in christ's sufficiency
iQbH6iTpbhE-01338-00291120-00291439 amen amen i can do all things through
iQbH6iTpbhE-01339-00291440-00291527 christ
iQbH6iTpbhE-01340-00291528-00291799 you know how we learn
iQbH6iTpbhE-01341-00291800-00291958 a whole lot of things
iQbH6iTpbhE-01342-00291959-00292247 they're amazing how yeah we can learn
iQbH6iTpbhE-01343-00292248-00292471 all the top hits
iQbH6iTpbhE-01344-00292472-00292743 we can learn all the tops everything our
iQbH6iTpbhE-01345-00292744-00292839 world
iQbH6iTpbhE-01346-00292840-00292975 commercials
iQbH6iTpbhE-01347-00292976-00293375 whatever man you know with anything in
iQbH6iTpbhE-01348-00293376-00293758 towns open restaurants bars
iQbH6iTpbhE-01349-00293759-00293982 all these stores you know
iQbH6iTpbhE-01350-00293983-00294295 but we can't even quote a scripture
iQbH6iTpbhE-01351-00294296-00294519 why is it we can't even know a praise
iQbH6iTpbhE-01352-00294520-00294663 and worship song
iQbH6iTpbhE-01353-00294664-00294934 but we can sing all the top 50s
iQbH6iTpbhE-01354-00294935-00295247 of the worldly songs yeah why is this oh
iQbH6iTpbhE-01355-00295248-00295423 if you can teach yourself to learn the
iQbH6iTpbhE-01356-00295424-00295582 worldly thing why can't you teach
iQbH6iTpbhE-01357-00295583-00295710 yourself to do
iQbH6iTpbhE-01358-00295711-00295975 to learn the godly things
iQbH6iTpbhE-01359-00295976-00296158 i mean that's you know quoting some
iQbH6iTpbhE-01360-00296159-00296367 scripture quoting the word god instead
iQbH6iTpbhE-01361-00296368-00296630 of quoting the negative things
iQbH6iTpbhE-01362-00296631-00297175 oh man you still love pastor huh
iQbH6iTpbhE-01363-00297176-00297399 and uh anyway
iQbH6iTpbhE-01364-00297400-00297575 jeremiah says
iQbH6iTpbhE-01365-00297576-00297671 i can't
iQbH6iTpbhE-01366-00297672-00297830 oh god but
iQbH6iTpbhE-01367-00297831-00298054 i don't know how to speak
iQbH6iTpbhE-01368-00298055-00298287 but i'm only a little boy i'm too young
iQbH6iTpbhE-01369-00298288-00298575 we give god's all kinds of excuses
iQbH6iTpbhE-01370-00298576-00298927 god says don't say that
iQbH6iTpbhE-01371-00298928-00299199 you must never go there i say to you
iQbH6iTpbhE-01372-00299200-00299527 tell them say whatever i tell you don't
iQbH6iTpbhE-01373-00299528-00299871 be afraid of people i will be with you i
iQbH6iTpbhE-01374-00299872-00300167 will take care of you god has chosen you
iQbH6iTpbhE-01375-00300168-00300415 amen amen if god is for you who can be
iQbH6iTpbhE-01376-00300416-00300582 against you yes he is amen we're going
iQbH6iTpbhE-01377-00300583-00300758 to close with that
iQbH6iTpbhE-01378-00300759-00301023 just know that god is with you
iQbH6iTpbhE-01379-00301024-00301215 and i told you about uh the story about
iQbH6iTpbhE-01380-00301216-00301479 the chicken and the pig yeah
iQbH6iTpbhE-01381-00301480-00301639 i want to remind you about the chicken
iQbH6iTpbhE-01382-00301640-00301823 in the pitting oh gosh the chicken and
iQbH6iTpbhE-01383-00301824-00302023 the pig were passing by a church on a
iQbH6iTpbhE-01384-00302024-00302254 country road
iQbH6iTpbhE-01385-00302255-00302454 when they saw a sign meeting charity
iQbH6iTpbhE-01386-00302455-00302799 meals for the poor please contribute
iQbH6iTpbhE-01387-00302800-00302991 says the chicken to the pig
iQbH6iTpbhE-01388-00302992-00303199 hey sounds like a worthy cause let's
iQbH6iTpbhE-01389-00303200-00303447 continue a ham and egg breakfast there
iQbH6iTpbhE-01390-00303448-00303623 you go amen
iQbH6iTpbhE-01391-00303624-00303823 the chicken says let's
iQbH6iTpbhE-01392-00303824-00304047 do a hammer there hey man breakfast you
iQbH6iTpbhE-01393-00304048-00304279 know and uh
iQbH6iTpbhE-01394-00304280-00304454 the pig says
iQbH6iTpbhE-01395-00304455-00304703 i said madam
iQbH6iTpbhE-01396-00304704-00304927 you have said that
iQbH6iTpbhE-01397-00304928-00305282 uh would be contributing listen he
iQbH6iTpbhE-01398-00305283-00305654 says you to provide the edge chicken
iQbH6iTpbhE-01399-00305655-00305830 that's being involved
iQbH6iTpbhE-01400-00305831-00305967 he says for me
iQbH6iTpbhE-01401-00305968-00306127 to provide to him
iQbH6iTpbhE-01402-00306128-00306343 i need to be totally
iQbH6iTpbhE-01403-00306344-00306591 committed that means i have to give
iQbH6iTpbhE-01404-00306592-00306830 myself totally to you yeah because i'm
iQbH6iTpbhE-01405-00306831-00307054 going to have to give my life
iQbH6iTpbhE-01406-00307055-00307287 for you to have him that's cool you know
iQbH6iTpbhE-01407-00307288-00307391 chicken
iQbH6iTpbhE-01408-00307392-00307575 you can lay all the eggs you want to but
iQbH6iTpbhE-01409-00307576-00307975 you'll still be around me i give him and
iQbH6iTpbhE-01410-00307976-00308263 that's it that's it yeah but
iQbH6iTpbhE-01411-00308264-00308471 in order for you to give your hand you
iQbH6iTpbhE-01412-00308472-00308719 got to be totally committed give
iQbH6iTpbhE-01413-00308720-00308951 yourself totally to him and that's what
iQbH6iTpbhE-01414-00308952-00309206 we must do amen give ourselves totally
iQbH6iTpbhE-01415-00309207-00309375 totally to him praise god i'll close
iQbH6iTpbhE-01416-00309376-00309471 with that
iQbH6iTpbhE-01417-00309472-00309623 father we thank you for your precious
iQbH6iTpbhE-01418-00309624-00309847 word help us to be here and doers of
iQbH6iTpbhE-01419-00309848-00310103 your word praises god amen amen and you
iQbH6iTpbhE-01420-00310104-00310295 know what we don't want to close
iQbH6iTpbhE-01421-00310296-00310447 until you have an opportunity those of
iQbH6iTpbhE-01422-00310448-00310599 you who are listening those of you
iQbH6iTpbhE-01423-00310600-00310758 watching
iQbH6iTpbhE-01424-00310759-00310991 to make him lord of your life yeah
iQbH6iTpbhE-01425-00310992-00311191 all you have to do is say lord
iQbH6iTpbhE-01426-00311192-00311391 i've sinned against you i repent come in
iQbH6iTpbhE-01427-00311392-00311582 my life be my lord and savior and you
iQbH6iTpbhE-01428-00311583-00311799 can start from this day on to totally
iQbH6iTpbhE-01429-00311800-00311958 surrendering yourself and giving
iQbH6iTpbhE-01430-00311959-00312175 yourself totally totally to him and
iQbH6iTpbhE-01431-00312176-00312399 start living for him and start doing
iQbH6iTpbhE-01432-00312400-00312623 what he's called you to do amen so
iQbH6iTpbhE-01433-00312624-00312751 praise god
iQbH6iTpbhE-01434-00312752-00312854 and uh
iQbH6iTpbhE-01435-00312855-00313047 if you
iQbH6iTpbhE-01436-00313048-00313215 have a sickness in your body or you need
iQbH6iTpbhE-01437-00313216-00313463 a touch of healing just lay hands on
iQbH6iTpbhE-01438-00313464-00313671 wherever you go you hurt him and say
iQbH6iTpbhE-01439-00313672-00313879 lord thank you and by jesus christ
iQbH6iTpbhE-01440-00313880-00314127 yes amen your word says lay hands on the
iQbH6iTpbhE-01441-00314128-00314295 sick and they shall repent and i'm
iQbH6iTpbhE-01442-00314296-00314575 laying hands on myself and i'm i'm i am
iQbH6iTpbhE-01443-00314576-00314791 receiving my healing right now whatever
iQbH6iTpbhE-01444-00314792-00314991 it might be it doesn't matter it says by
iQbH6iTpbhE-01445-00314992-00315534 jesus christ i am amen and i expect no
iQbH6iTpbhE-01446-00315535-00315767 malfunctions in my body that's it amen
iQbH6iTpbhE-01447-00315768-00315967 i'm receiving total healing right now in
iQbH6iTpbhE-01448-00315968-00316303 jesus name inside outside doesn't matter
iQbH6iTpbhE-01449-00316304-00316606 total total healing in jesus amen so
iQbH6iTpbhE-01450-00316607-00316871 praise god i'm blessed i'm happy i'm
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