MLnHM2_a0oy-00000-00000016-00000271 do voter legislation laws ensure secure MLnHM2_a0oy-00001-00000272-00000511 and trustworthy elections or are they a MLnHM2_a0oy-00002-00000512-00000743 way for political parties to manipulate MLnHM2_a0oy-00003-00000744-00001015 the democratic process in their favor at MLnHM2_a0oy-00004-00001016-00001223 a september 8 debate in new york city MLnHM2_a0oy-00005-00001224-00001423 hosted by the soho forum eliza MLnHM2_a0oy-00006-00001424-00001655 swarenbecker from nyu's brennan center MLnHM2_a0oy-00007-00001655-00001830 for justice argued that state MLnHM2_a0oy-00008-00001832-00002087 legislators are using arbitrary rules to MLnHM2_a0oy-00009-00002088-00002334 suppress the voting rights of vulnerable MLnHM2_a0oy-00010-00002335-00002567 citizens the heritage foundation's hans MLnHM2_a0oy-00011-00002568-00002791 von spakovsky countered that these rules MLnHM2_a0oy-00012-00002792-00003023 are necessary to guarantee that every MLnHM2_a0oy-00013-00003024-00003286 vote cast is valid noting that in states MLnHM2_a0oy-00014-00003288-00003519 where voter id laws already exist MLnHM2_a0oy-00015-00003520-00003735 registration rates have risen this was MLnHM2_a0oy-00016-00003736-00003903 an oxford style debate in which the MLnHM2_a0oy-00017-00003904-00004119 audience voted before and after the MLnHM2_a0oy-00018-00004120-00004351 event to see which side swayed more MLnHM2_a0oy-00019-00004352-00004567 people it was moderated by soho forum MLnHM2_a0oy-00020-00004568-00004806 director gene epstein MLnHM2_a0oy-00021-00004807-00005102 legislators in multiple states are MLnHM2_a0oy-00022-00005103-00005399 actively making making it harder for MLnHM2_a0oy-00023-00005400-00005606 americans to vote MLnHM2_a0oy-00024-00005607-00005975 defending the resolution eliza swearin MLnHM2_a0oy-00025-00005976-00006839 becker eliza please come to the stage MLnHM2_a0oy-00026-00006840-00007083 opposing and taking the negative on the MLnHM2_a0oy-00027-00007084-00007455 resolution hans von spakovsky MLnHM2_a0oy-00028-00007456-00008039 hans please come to the stage MLnHM2_a0oy-00029-00008040-00008255 it's okay it's okay MLnHM2_a0oy-00030-00008256-00008423 it's okay eliza you can sit there MLnHM2_a0oy-00031-00008424-00008687 because you are coming to the podium MLnHM2_a0oy-00032-00008688-00008927 right now to defend the resolution you MLnHM2_a0oy-00033-00008928-00009606 have 15 minutes take it away eliza MLnHM2_a0oy-00034-00009607-00009783 hello everyone MLnHM2_a0oy-00035-00009784-00010159 it's nice to be with people in person MLnHM2_a0oy-00036-00010160-00010271 and thank you so much for the MLnHM2_a0oy-00037-00010272-00010438 introduction and and thank you all for MLnHM2_a0oy-00038-00010439-00010678 being here in person MLnHM2_a0oy-00039-00010679-00010895 in last year's general election voters MLnHM2_a0oy-00040-00010896-00011183 turned out in historic numbers and used MLnHM2_a0oy-00041-00011184-00011406 male and early voting at unprecedented MLnHM2_a0oy-00042-00011407-00011519 levels MLnHM2_a0oy-00043-00011520-00011759 presidential election turnout was seven MLnHM2_a0oy-00044-00011760-00012055 percentage points higher than in 2016 MLnHM2_a0oy-00045-00012056-00012335 and the number of ballots cast by mail MLnHM2_a0oy-00046-00012336-00012567 or in person before election day more MLnHM2_a0oy-00047-00012568-00012879 than doubled that of 2016. that is good MLnHM2_a0oy-00048-00012880-00013143 news for american democracy MLnHM2_a0oy-00049-00013144-00013319 but the response for many state houses MLnHM2_a0oy-00050-00013319-00013535 across the country has been clear MLnHM2_a0oy-00051-00013536-00013847 by july at least 18 states had enacted MLnHM2_a0oy-00052-00013847-00014111 30 laws that make it harder to vote MLnHM2_a0oy-00053-00014112-00014399 and more have been signed since MLnHM2_a0oy-00054-00014400-00014566 the reality is actually worse than those MLnHM2_a0oy-00055-00014568-00014766 numbers suggest because states like MLnHM2_a0oy-00056-00014768-00015063 georgia florida iowa and texas MLnHM2_a0oy-00057-00015063-00015279 have enacted omnibus bills that contain MLnHM2_a0oy-00058-00015280-00015479 multiple restrictions MLnHM2_a0oy-00059-00015480-00015630 the brennan center has been tracking MLnHM2_a0oy-00060-00015631-00015815 state voting legislation for more than a MLnHM2_a0oy-00061-00015816-00016030 decade decade excuse me i get a little MLnHM2_a0oy-00062-00016031-00016215 winded these days MLnHM2_a0oy-00063-00016216-00016327 um MLnHM2_a0oy-00064-00016328-00016550 this is without a doubt the biggest wave MLnHM2_a0oy-00065-00016551-00016775 of new laws to make voting harder that MLnHM2_a0oy-00066-00016776-00017071 we have seen in recent memory it cannot MLnHM2_a0oy-00067-00017072-00017319 reasonably just be disputed that many MLnHM2_a0oy-00068-00017320-00017822 state legislators across the country MLnHM2_a0oy-00069-00017823-00018047 you guys can hear me okay MLnHM2_a0oy-00070-00018048-00018214 thanks MLnHM2_a0oy-00071-00018215-00018391 it cannot reasonably be disputed that MLnHM2_a0oy-00072-00018392-00018543 many state legislators across the MLnHM2_a0oy-00073-00018544-00018735 country are actively working to make it MLnHM2_a0oy-00074-00018736-00018950 harder for americans to vote MLnHM2_a0oy-00075-00018951-00019143 first when you actually look at the text MLnHM2_a0oy-00076-00019144-00019343 of these laws it's clear they put MLnHM2_a0oy-00077-00019344-00019550 barriers in the path of eligible voters MLnHM2_a0oy-00078-00019551-00019750 on the way to the ballot box MLnHM2_a0oy-00079-00019751-00019847 second MLnHM2_a0oy-00080-00019848-00019991 studies show that these kinds of MLnHM2_a0oy-00081-00019992-00020239 restrictions burden american voters and MLnHM2_a0oy-00082-00020240-00020511 in particular voters of color MLnHM2_a0oy-00083-00020512-00020799 third there's a tightness of fit problem MLnHM2_a0oy-00084-00020800-00020991 supporters of these new restrictions MLnHM2_a0oy-00085-00020992-00021222 argue that they are necessary to protect MLnHM2_a0oy-00086-00021223-00021414 the integrity of american elections to MLnHM2_a0oy-00087-00021415-00021671 prevent voter fraud or at a minimum to MLnHM2_a0oy-00088-00021672-00021839 restore public confidence in our MLnHM2_a0oy-00089-00021840-00021967 elections MLnHM2_a0oy-00090-00021968-00022207 but the laws don't largely improve MLnHM2_a0oy-00091-00022208-00022367 american elections MLnHM2_a0oy-00092-00022368-00022558 and that's because study after studies MLnHM2_a0oy-00093-00022559-00022775 show that our elections are not actually MLnHM2_a0oy-00094-00022776-00022935 plagued by fraud MLnHM2_a0oy-00095-00022936-00023199 in other words the downside is big these MLnHM2_a0oy-00096-00023200-00023383 new laws impose greater costs and MLnHM2_a0oy-00097-00023384-00023614 burdens on voters in some cases MLnHM2_a0oy-00098-00023615-00023911 decreasing turnout but the upside is nil MLnHM2_a0oy-00099-00023912-00024158 that is a bum deal for american voters MLnHM2_a0oy-00100-00024159-00024399 and american democracy MLnHM2_a0oy-00101-00024400-00024614 taking those three steps in turn let's MLnHM2_a0oy-00102-00024615-00024871 first look at these new laws and i won't MLnHM2_a0oy-00103-00024872-00025047 describe every feature of the dozens of MLnHM2_a0oy-00104-00025048-00025263 laws that have been enacted this year MLnHM2_a0oy-00105-00025264-00025439 but starting first with florida for MLnHM2_a0oy-00106-00025440-00025542 example MLnHM2_a0oy-00107-00025543-00025846 the state's omnibus legislation sb90 MLnHM2_a0oy-00108-00025847-00026062 strictly limits the availability of mail MLnHM2_a0oy-00109-00026063-00026302 ballot drop boxes which have been used MLnHM2_a0oy-00110-00026304-00026462 in the state for many years without MLnHM2_a0oy-00111-00026463-00026623 incident MLnHM2_a0oy-00112-00026624-00026846 these boxes are now accessible only at MLnHM2_a0oy-00113-00026847-00027039 certain government offices MLnHM2_a0oy-00114-00027039-00027183 but that's not withstanding the fact MLnHM2_a0oy-00115-00027183-00027367 that mail ballots can be dropped off at MLnHM2_a0oy-00116-00027368-00027662 any blue mail excuse me blue mailbox on MLnHM2_a0oy-00117-00027663-00027887 the corner 24 hours a day seven days a MLnHM2_a0oy-00118-00027888-00027974 week MLnHM2_a0oy-00119-00027975-00028167 so why did florida lawmakers decide to MLnHM2_a0oy-00120-00028168-00028343 make it harder for voters to access MLnHM2_a0oy-00121-00028344-00028487 dropboxes MLnHM2_a0oy-00122-00028488-00028655 it seems like the popularity of these MLnHM2_a0oy-00123-00028656-00028870 boxes might have something to do with it MLnHM2_a0oy-00124-00028872-00029062 during the 2020 general election at MLnHM2_a0oy-00125-00029063-00029367 least 51 of florida's 67 counties MLnHM2_a0oy-00126-00029368-00029574 offered a dropbox that was available 24 MLnHM2_a0oy-00127-00029575-00029646 7 MLnHM2_a0oy-00128-00029647-00029895 and as a result 1.5 million floridian MLnHM2_a0oy-00129-00029895-00030158 voters used a dropbox to vote making up MLnHM2_a0oy-00130-00030160-00030439 more than 10 percent of voters overall MLnHM2_a0oy-00131-00030439-00030751 and more than a quarter excuse me MLnHM2_a0oy-00132-00030752-00030911 and more than a quarter of those who MLnHM2_a0oy-00133-00030912-00031095 voted by mail MLnHM2_a0oy-00134-00031095-00031231 it's also worth noting that the MLnHM2_a0oy-00135-00031232-00031399 percentage of black voters who cast MLnHM2_a0oy-00136-00031400-00031631 their ballots by mail doubled in florida MLnHM2_a0oy-00137-00031632-00031951 from 2016 to 2020. MLnHM2_a0oy-00138-00031952-00032111 state policies that make it harder to MLnHM2_a0oy-00139-00032112-00032302 vote in florida are not new MLnHM2_a0oy-00140-00032303-00032590 in 2019 after the state voters adopted a MLnHM2_a0oy-00141-00032591-00032758 constitutional amendment to restore MLnHM2_a0oy-00142-00032760-00032902 voting rights to people with past MLnHM2_a0oy-00143-00032903-00033151 convictions the state enacted a law MLnHM2_a0oy-00144-00033152-00033351 conditioning eligibility on the MLnHM2_a0oy-00145-00033352-00033551 repayment of court debts arising from MLnHM2_a0oy-00146-00033552-00033718 criminal convictions MLnHM2_a0oy-00147-00033719-00033895 in other words for hundreds of thousands MLnHM2_a0oy-00148-00033896-00034127 of floridians the only thing determining MLnHM2_a0oy-00149-00034128-00034279 whether they can vote is the balance in MLnHM2_a0oy-00150-00034280-00034423 their bank account MLnHM2_a0oy-00151-00034424-00034583 expert analysis has found that this MLnHM2_a0oy-00152-00034584-00034887 denies eligibility to more than 700 000 MLnHM2_a0oy-00153-00034888-00035127 floridians who are disproportionately MLnHM2_a0oy-00154-00035128-00035271 black MLnHM2_a0oy-00155-00035272-00035407 georgia 2 has restricted the MLnHM2_a0oy-00156-00035408-00035655 availability in hours of drop boxes MLnHM2_a0oy-00157-00035656-00035839 now the four major metro counties MLnHM2_a0oy-00158-00035840-00035999 surrounding atlanta will be limited to MLnHM2_a0oy-00159-00036000-00036374 an estimated 23 boxes total by contrast MLnHM2_a0oy-00160-00036375-00036671 there were 111 such boxes last year and MLnHM2_a0oy-00161-00036672-00036967 more than 300 000 voters used them MLnHM2_a0oy-00162-00036968-00037102 to put that into context the MLnHM2_a0oy-00163-00037103-00037343 presidential race was decided in georgia MLnHM2_a0oy-00164-00037344-00037607 by less than 12 000 votes MLnHM2_a0oy-00165-00037608-00037830 george's omnibus law also prohibits MLnHM2_a0oy-00166-00037831-00038055 election officials from affirmatively MLnHM2_a0oy-00167-00038056-00038230 sending out mail ballot applications to MLnHM2_a0oy-00168-00038231-00038495 voters gives voters less time to apply MLnHM2_a0oy-00169-00038496-00038735 for absentee ballots and criminalizes MLnHM2_a0oy-00170-00038736-00038902 the act of giving snacks and water to MLnHM2_a0oy-00171-00038903-00039183 voters waiting in line at polling places MLnHM2_a0oy-00172-00039184-00039318 it's hard to see how any of these MLnHM2_a0oy-00173-00039319-00039487 policies has anything to do with MLnHM2_a0oy-00174-00039488-00039718 improving our elections but it's easy to MLnHM2_a0oy-00175-00039719-00039855 see how they incrementally make it MLnHM2_a0oy-00176-00039856-00040007 harder to vote MLnHM2_a0oy-00177-00040008-00040223 most recently texas enacted omnibus MLnHM2_a0oy-00178-00040224-00040502 legislation as well the law bans 24-hour MLnHM2_a0oy-00179-00040503-00040687 early voting locations drive-through MLnHM2_a0oy-00180-00040688-00040830 voting and mobile polling place MLnHM2_a0oy-00181-00040831-00040935 structures MLnHM2_a0oy-00182-00040936-00041087 without any basis for why these MLnHM2_a0oy-00183-00041088-00041239 conveniences could undermine our MLnHM2_a0oy-00184-00041240-00041407 elections MLnHM2_a0oy-00185-00041408-00041599 the law makes it a crime for public MLnHM2_a0oy-00186-00041600-00041799 officials to encourage voters who may be MLnHM2_a0oy-00187-00041800-00041958 eligible to submit mail ballot MLnHM2_a0oy-00188-00041959-00042167 applications yet places no such MLnHM2_a0oy-00189-00042168-00042430 restriction on party officials MLnHM2_a0oy-00190-00042431-00042639 at the same time the law makes all MLnHM2_a0oy-00191-00042640-00042830 voting fraud offenses misdemeanors MLnHM2_a0oy-00192-00042831-00043062 instead of felonies which seems like an MLnHM2_a0oy-00193-00043063-00043279 especially odd thing to do in a law that MLnHM2_a0oy-00194-00043280-00043495 supporters and the texas governor claim MLnHM2_a0oy-00195-00043496-00043695 was designed to discourage such MLnHM2_a0oy-00196-00043696-00043935 such misconduct MLnHM2_a0oy-00197-00043936-00044255 in iowa sf-413 shortens the early voting MLnHM2_a0oy-00198-00044256-00044462 period by nine days and limits election MLnHM2_a0oy-00199-00044463-00044695 officials discretion to offer additional MLnHM2_a0oy-00200-00044696-00044887 early voting locations MLnHM2_a0oy-00201-00044888-00045318 why in alabama hb 285 prohibits curbside MLnHM2_a0oy-00202-00045319-00045535 voting entirely an essential voting MLnHM2_a0oy-00203-00045536-00045758 method for voters with disabilities MLnHM2_a0oy-00204-00045759-00045895 one of the bill's supporters in the MLnHM2_a0oy-00205-00045896-00046062 assembly there claimed that the law was MLnHM2_a0oy-00206-00046063-00046207 intended to ensure that there was no MLnHM2_a0oy-00207-00046208-00046430 fraud in that voting procedure even as MLnHM2_a0oy-00208-00046431-00046583 he acknowledged that that didn't happen MLnHM2_a0oy-00209-00046584-00046807 in alabama last year MLnHM2_a0oy-00210-00046808-00047030 i could go on but won't what's clear MLnHM2_a0oy-00211-00047031-00047255 from the plain text of these policies is MLnHM2_a0oy-00212-00047256-00047430 that these laws add to the hurdles that MLnHM2_a0oy-00213-00047431-00047630 voters must overcome to exercise their MLnHM2_a0oy-00214-00047631-00047846 fundamental right to vote and that the MLnHM2_a0oy-00215-00047847-00048046 purported justification for these rules MLnHM2_a0oy-00216-00048047-00048230 is simply pretext MLnHM2_a0oy-00217-00048231-00048439 you don't have to take that from me the MLnHM2_a0oy-00218-00048440-00048599 proponents of these restrictions have MLnHM2_a0oy-00219-00048600-00048846 said so themselves during supreme court MLnHM2_a0oy-00220-00048847-00049030 arguments earlier this year the lawyer MLnHM2_a0oy-00221-00049031-00049239 for the arizona republican party MLnHM2_a0oy-00222-00049240-00049471 defended arizona's law in validating MLnHM2_a0oy-00223-00049472-00049702 votes cast in the wrong precinct by MLnHM2_a0oy-00224-00049703-00049895 saying that not having that policy on MLnHM2_a0oy-00225-00049896-00050055 the books would put them at a MLnHM2_a0oy-00226-00050056-00050255 competitive disadvantage relative to MLnHM2_a0oy-00227-00050256-00050471 democrats it's the difference between MLnHM2_a0oy-00228-00050472-00050711 winning an election 50 49 and losing an MLnHM2_a0oy-00229-00050712-00050830 election MLnHM2_a0oy-00230-00050831-00051023 similarly an arizona lawmaker when MLnHM2_a0oy-00231-00051024-00051190 justifying new restrictions in the MLnHM2_a0oy-00232-00051191-00051414 state's mail voting process this year MLnHM2_a0oy-00233-00051415-00051599 stated that quote everybody shouldn't be MLnHM2_a0oy-00234-00051600-00051790 voting and quote the quality of votes MLnHM2_a0oy-00235-00051791-00052023 mattered and when discussing proposals MLnHM2_a0oy-00236-00052024-00052223 to expand access to male voting last MLnHM2_a0oy-00237-00052224-00052423 year president trump stated that an MLnHM2_a0oy-00238-00052424-00052638 expansion of early and male voting would MLnHM2_a0oy-00239-00052639-00052830 lead to quote levels of voting that if MLnHM2_a0oy-00240-00052832-00052999 you agreed to it you'd never have a MLnHM2_a0oy-00241-00053000-00053335 republican elected in the country again MLnHM2_a0oy-00242-00053336-00053575 second a mountain of research shows that MLnHM2_a0oy-00243-00053576-00053759 these kinds of voting restrictions do MLnHM2_a0oy-00244-00053760-00053999 indeed burden voters and make it harder MLnHM2_a0oy-00245-00054000-00054159 to vote particularly for racial MLnHM2_a0oy-00246-00054160-00054366 minorities and other groups like voters MLnHM2_a0oy-00247-00054367-00054599 with disabilities MLnHM2_a0oy-00248-00054600-00054799 on one hand data show that measures that MLnHM2_a0oy-00249-00054800-00055015 make voting more convenient like MLnHM2_a0oy-00250-00055016-00055175 increasing the proximity of voting MLnHM2_a0oy-00251-00055176-00055471 locations adding more voting days MLnHM2_a0oy-00252-00055472-00055647 those things matter to voters and to MLnHM2_a0oy-00253-00055648-00055782 turnout MLnHM2_a0oy-00254-00055783-00055942 voters surveyed as to why they didn't MLnHM2_a0oy-00255-00055944-00056166 vote in the 2018 midterm elections for MLnHM2_a0oy-00256-00056167-00056399 example most commonly responded that it MLnHM2_a0oy-00257-00056400-00056575 was because they were quote too busy and MLnHM2_a0oy-00258-00056576-00056759 had a conflicting schedule MLnHM2_a0oy-00259-00056760-00056942 others cited an inconvenient polling MLnHM2_a0oy-00260-00056944-00057103 place while others said they faced MLnHM2_a0oy-00261-00057104-00057287 transportation problems MLnHM2_a0oy-00262-00057288-00057447 that's why reforms that make it more MLnHM2_a0oy-00263-00057448-00057623 convenient to vote have been shown to MLnHM2_a0oy-00264-00057624-00057854 increase turnout for example one MLnHM2_a0oy-00265-00057855-00058023 peer-reviewed study showed that for MLnHM2_a0oy-00266-00058024-00058215 every additional early voting day in MLnHM2_a0oy-00267-00058216-00058454 ohio turnout increased by a quarter of a MLnHM2_a0oy-00268-00058455-00058663 percentage point and that joins other MLnHM2_a0oy-00269-00058664-00058838 research showing the positive effects of MLnHM2_a0oy-00270-00058839-00059071 early voting on turnout MLnHM2_a0oy-00271-00059072-00059279 enacting no excuse mail voting has been MLnHM2_a0oy-00272-00059279-00059487 shown to increase turnout by between one MLnHM2_a0oy-00273-00059488-00059615 and two percent MLnHM2_a0oy-00274-00059616-00059766 and studies show that mail voting MLnHM2_a0oy-00275-00059767-00059966 especially increases turnout for younger MLnHM2_a0oy-00276-00059967-00060215 voters voters of color voters with less MLnHM2_a0oy-00277-00060216-00060494 education and voters with disabilities MLnHM2_a0oy-00278-00060495-00060694 on the other hand the inverse is true MLnHM2_a0oy-00279-00060695-00060879 policies that make it less convenient to MLnHM2_a0oy-00280-00060879-00061103 vote decrease turnout MLnHM2_a0oy-00281-00061104-00061326 a 2017 study of a local new york MLnHM2_a0oy-00282-00061327-00061503 election found that polling place MLnHM2_a0oy-00283-00061504-00061703 consolidation decreased voter turnout MLnHM2_a0oy-00284-00061704-00061982 substantially by about seven percent MLnHM2_a0oy-00285-00061983-00062247 in a 2020 study of cities in minnesota MLnHM2_a0oy-00286-00062248-00062463 and and massachusetts found that MLnHM2_a0oy-00287-00062464-00062638 increasing voters travel distance to the MLnHM2_a0oy-00288-00062639-00062879 polls by a quarter mile decreased the MLnHM2_a0oy-00289-00062879-00063079 number of ballots by two to five percent MLnHM2_a0oy-00290-00063079-00063382 across four elections MLnHM2_a0oy-00291-00063383-00063671 a 2021 study indicates that every hour MLnHM2_a0oy-00292-00063672-00063959 spent waiting in line reduces MLnHM2_a0oy-00293-00063960-00064166 turnout in subsequent elections by about MLnHM2_a0oy-00294-00064167-00064287 one percent MLnHM2_a0oy-00295-00064288-00064526 and other studies demonstrate that wait MLnHM2_a0oy-00296-00064527-00064711 times and polling place closures MLnHM2_a0oy-00297-00064712-00064879 disproportionately affect black and MLnHM2_a0oy-00298-00064879-00065063 latino voters MLnHM2_a0oy-00299-00065064-00065279 notwithstanding all of this data many MLnHM2_a0oy-00300-00065279-00065487 states are going backwards by enacting MLnHM2_a0oy-00301-00065488-00065679 laws that make it harder to vote by mail MLnHM2_a0oy-00302-00065680-00065911 make dropboxes harder to access make MLnHM2_a0oy-00303-00065912-00066126 polling places less convenient and cut MLnHM2_a0oy-00304-00066127-00066311 early voting days MLnHM2_a0oy-00305-00066312-00066503 additionally several states have imposed MLnHM2_a0oy-00306-00066504-00066750 harsher voter id requirements this year MLnHM2_a0oy-00307-00066751-00067006 including georgia florida texas montana MLnHM2_a0oy-00308-00067007-00067150 and arkansas MLnHM2_a0oy-00309-00067151-00067311 yet there is no data showing a MLnHM2_a0oy-00310-00067312-00067494 correlation between voter id MLnHM2_a0oy-00311-00067495-00067703 requirements and the occurrence or MLnHM2_a0oy-00312-00067704-00067894 prevention of fraud MLnHM2_a0oy-00313-00067895-00068055 what the research does show in MLnHM2_a0oy-00314-00068056-00068263 peer-reviewed studies is that strict MLnHM2_a0oy-00315-00068264-00068494 voter id laws decrease turnout MLnHM2_a0oy-00316-00068495-00068743 for example after north carolina adopted MLnHM2_a0oy-00317-00068744-00068991 a strict voter id law in 2013 MLnHM2_a0oy-00318-00068992-00069150 researchers at stanford found that MLnHM2_a0oy-00319-00069151-00069423 voters who lacked id MLnHM2_a0oy-00320-00069424-00069638 turned out in fewer numbers and that MLnHM2_a0oy-00321-00069639-00069879 turnout effect continued even after an MLnHM2_a0oy-00322-00069880-00070063 appellate court struck down that strict MLnHM2_a0oy-00323-00070064-00070343 id law a study published last year MLnHM2_a0oy-00324-00070344-00070519 showed that the adoption of strict voter MLnHM2_a0oy-00325-00070520-00070799 id in alabama mississippi virginia and MLnHM2_a0oy-00326-00070800-00071079 wisconsin caused turnout to decline by MLnHM2_a0oy-00327-00071080-00071247 about one percent by more than one MLnHM2_a0oy-00328-00071248-00071487 percentage point an effect size larger MLnHM2_a0oy-00329-00071488-00071638 than the presidential vote margin in MLnHM2_a0oy-00330-00071639-00071831 many states MLnHM2_a0oy-00331-00071832-00071999 other work shows that people of color MLnHM2_a0oy-00332-00072000-00072223 are less likely to have the required id MLnHM2_a0oy-00333-00072224-00072375 and that strict voter id laws MLnHM2_a0oy-00334-00072376-00072575 disproportionately reduce non-white MLnHM2_a0oy-00335-00072576-00072767 turnout MLnHM2_a0oy-00336-00072768-00072935 let me pause here to emphasize that MLnHM2_a0oy-00337-00072936-00073119 overall voter turnout is not the only MLnHM2_a0oy-00338-00073120-00073262 thing that matters MLnHM2_a0oy-00339-00073263-00073375 in fact MLnHM2_a0oy-00340-00073376-00073606 focusing exclusively on overall turnout MLnHM2_a0oy-00341-00073607-00073767 numbers can gloss over the way that MLnHM2_a0oy-00342-00073768-00073943 changing voting rules affects racial MLnHM2_a0oy-00343-00073944-00074206 minorities and other subgroups MLnHM2_a0oy-00344-00074207-00074415 voting restrictions can change who votes MLnHM2_a0oy-00345-00074416-00074638 in a given jurisdiction even if they MLnHM2_a0oy-00346-00074639-00074815 don't change the overall number of MLnHM2_a0oy-00347-00074816-00075006 voters in that area MLnHM2_a0oy-00348-00075007-00075247 for example even with historic overall MLnHM2_a0oy-00349-00075248-00075479 turnout in 2020 there remains a MLnHM2_a0oy-00350-00075480-00075671 significant turnout gap between white MLnHM2_a0oy-00351-00075672-00075903 and non-white voters MLnHM2_a0oy-00352-00075904-00076119 overall 71 percent of eligible white MLnHM2_a0oy-00353-00076120-00076326 voters cast ballots in the 2020 general MLnHM2_a0oy-00354-00076327-00076567 elections compared to only 58 percent of MLnHM2_a0oy-00355-00076568-00076719 non-white voters MLnHM2_a0oy-00356-00076720-00076911 and the racial turnout gap has actually MLnHM2_a0oy-00357-00076912-00077247 grown since the 2012 elections notably MLnHM2_a0oy-00358-00077248-00077479 the supreme court shelby county decision MLnHM2_a0oy-00359-00077480-00077767 came down in 2013 that decision stopped MLnHM2_a0oy-00360-00077768-00077959 what's known as pre-clearance which is MLnHM2_a0oy-00361-00077960-00078126 the process by which states and MLnHM2_a0oy-00362-00078127-00078311 jurisdictions with a history of racial MLnHM2_a0oy-00363-00078312-00078511 discrimination and voting had to get MLnHM2_a0oy-00364-00078512-00078687 pre-approval for changes to their voting MLnHM2_a0oy-00365-00078688-00078855 rules MLnHM2_a0oy-00366-00078856-00079047 the evidence is overwhelming that voting MLnHM2_a0oy-00367-00079048-00079247 laws do in fact matter MLnHM2_a0oy-00368-00079248-00079423 but we shouldn't need a study to tell us MLnHM2_a0oy-00369-00079424-00079719 that fair free and equal voting access MLnHM2_a0oy-00370-00079720-00079911 is a core democratic value that needs to MLnHM2_a0oy-00371-00079912-00080126 be defended and expanded MLnHM2_a0oy-00372-00080127-00080326 voting restrictions are harmful even if MLnHM2_a0oy-00373-00080327-00080623 they have no impact on overall turnout MLnHM2_a0oy-00374-00080624-00080799 putting aside all of the evidence the MLnHM2_a0oy-00375-00080800-00080894 intent MLnHM2_a0oy-00376-00080895-00081111 intent of these state measures is clear MLnHM2_a0oy-00377-00081112-00081367 to make it harder for americans to vote MLnHM2_a0oy-00378-00081368-00081519 and it would be strange to argue that MLnHM2_a0oy-00379-00081520-00081719 simply because state lawmakers may not MLnHM2_a0oy-00380-00081720-00081903 succeed in shutting millions out of the MLnHM2_a0oy-00381-00081904-00082135 democratic process they should be able MLnHM2_a0oy-00382-00082136-00082406 to continue these efforts unimpeded MLnHM2_a0oy-00383-00082407-00082591 whether a given anti-voter policy will MLnHM2_a0oy-00384-00082592-00082799 have a large partisan racial or turnout MLnHM2_a0oy-00385-00082800-00082982 effect the bottom line is that MLnHM2_a0oy-00386-00082983-00083150 restricting access to the ballot is MLnHM2_a0oy-00387-00083151-00083375 wrong and inconsistent with a free and MLnHM2_a0oy-00388-00083376-00083575 democratic form of government MLnHM2_a0oy-00389-00083576-00083750 legislators proposing these changes MLnHM2_a0oy-00390-00083751-00083862 because they want to limit the MLnHM2_a0oy-00391-00083863-00084071 electorate may continue introducing MLnHM2_a0oy-00392-00084072-00084206 these bills until they find something MLnHM2_a0oy-00393-00084207-00084359 that works MLnHM2_a0oy-00394-00084360-00084567 third and finally state lawmakers and MLnHM2_a0oy-00395-00084568-00084750 others have justified the need for new MLnHM2_a0oy-00396-00084751-00084967 voting restrictions by pointing to their MLnHM2_a0oy-00397-00084968-00085182 desire to protect election integrity and MLnHM2_a0oy-00398-00085183-00085335 prevent fraud MLnHM2_a0oy-00399-00085336-00085526 but the truth is that extensive research MLnHM2_a0oy-00400-00085527-00085679 reveals that the incidence of voter MLnHM2_a0oy-00401-00085680-00085926 fraud in contemporary u.s elections is MLnHM2_a0oy-00402-00085927-00086199 exceedingly rare voter impersonation is MLnHM2_a0oy-00403-00086200-00086423 virtually non-existent and many MLnHM2_a0oy-00404-00086424-00086687 instances of alleged fraud are in fact MLnHM2_a0oy-00405-00086688-00086847 mistakes by voters or election MLnHM2_a0oy-00406-00086848-00086999 administrators MLnHM2_a0oy-00407-00087000-00087191 that's the same goes for mail ballots as MLnHM2_a0oy-00408-00087192-00087415 it does for voting in person MLnHM2_a0oy-00409-00087416-00087582 even taking the heritage foundation's MLnHM2_a0oy-00410-00087583-00087831 own database of purported voter fraud MLnHM2_a0oy-00411-00087832-00087982 and putting aside mathematical MLnHM2_a0oy-00412-00087983-00088135 methodological questions about that MLnHM2_a0oy-00413-00088136-00088391 database the organization claims it has MLnHM2_a0oy-00414-00088392-00088523 identified MLnHM2_a0oy-00415-00088524-00088815 1333 instances of voter fraud MLnHM2_a0oy-00416-00088816-00089015 but that's over the course of 40 years MLnHM2_a0oy-00417-00089016-00089262 and billions of votes cast in other MLnHM2_a0oy-00418-00089263-00089415 words the incidence of fraud is MLnHM2_a0oy-00419-00089416-00089550 infinitesimal MLnHM2_a0oy-00420-00089551-00089726 indeed president trump's voter fraud MLnHM2_a0oy-00421-00089727-00090015 commission was disbanded in 2018 after MLnHM2_a0oy-00422-00090016-00090255 failing to find evidence supporting MLnHM2_a0oy-00423-00090256-00090815 to support widespread claims of fraud MLnHM2_a0oy-00424-00090816-00091015 it is not an accident that we don't see MLnHM2_a0oy-00425-00091016-00091191 widespread election misconduct in this MLnHM2_a0oy-00426-00091192-00091382 country that's because there are many MLnHM2_a0oy-00427-00091383-00091575 protections already in place that ensure MLnHM2_a0oy-00428-00091576-00091791 the integrity of american elections like MLnHM2_a0oy-00429-00091792-00092031 paper ballots poll books ballot bar MLnHM2_a0oy-00430-00092032-00092118 codes MLnHM2_a0oy-00431-00092119-00092318 mail ballot tracking through usps MLnHM2_a0oy-00432-00092319-00092455 penalties for those who commit MLnHM2_a0oy-00433-00092456-00092671 misconduct voterless maintenance and MLnHM2_a0oy-00434-00092672-00092926 risk limiting audits in other words it's MLnHM2_a0oy-00435-00092927-00093079 quite difficult for an individual to MLnHM2_a0oy-00436-00093080-00093343 commit fraud and if a person does so the MLnHM2_a0oy-00437-00093344-00093535 effect of any one person's misdeed is MLnHM2_a0oy-00438-00093536-00093703 necessarily limited MLnHM2_a0oy-00439-00093704-00093911 when candidates or officials attempt to MLnHM2_a0oy-00440-00093912-00094150 perpetrate more systematic fraud on MLnHM2_a0oy-00441-00094151-00094350 voters those schemes are generally MLnHM2_a0oy-00442-00094351-00094606 caught for example the north carolina MLnHM2_a0oy-00443-00094607-00094871 state board of elections detect MLnHM2_a0oy-00444-00094872-00095031 thanks MLnHM2_a0oy-00445-00095032-00095231 detected a MLnHM2_a0oy-00446-00095232-00095518 consultant's effort to rig a 2018 MLnHM2_a0oy-00447-00095519-00095799 congressional election MLnHM2_a0oy-00448-00095800-00095959 this year the los angeles district MLnHM2_a0oy-00449-00095960-00096103 attorney has filed a criminal case MLnHM2_a0oy-00450-00096104-00096318 against a candidate for city council who MLnHM2_a0oy-00451-00096319-00096543 won his race by a single vote alleging MLnHM2_a0oy-00452-00096544-00096735 conspiracy to commit election fraud and MLnHM2_a0oy-00453-00096736-00096935 that criminal case is ongoing MLnHM2_a0oy-00454-00096936-00097199 in other words our system is working MLnHM2_a0oy-00455-00097200-00097399 as i described the downside of imposing MLnHM2_a0oy-00456-00097400-00097631 more restrictions on voting is high but MLnHM2_a0oy-00457-00097632-00097791 the upside is low MLnHM2_a0oy-00458-00097792-00097974 the pop the problem these laws purport MLnHM2_a0oy-00459-00097975-00098231 to fix is not a significant risk 30 MLnHM2_a0oy-00460-00098232-00098367 seconds MLnHM2_a0oy-00461-00098368-00098550 it's possible that an asteroid falls to MLnHM2_a0oy-00462-00098551-00098703 earth or you get struck by lightning MLnHM2_a0oy-00463-00098704-00098918 just like voter fraud as possible but we MLnHM2_a0oy-00464-00098919-00099087 don't ask every person to incur the MLnHM2_a0oy-00465-00099088-00099287 costs and burdens of buying asteroid or MLnHM2_a0oy-00466-00099288-00099518 lightning insurance especially when are MLnHM2_a0oy-00467-00099519-00099831 already effective protections in place MLnHM2_a0oy-00468-00099832-00099999 to the extent americans have a lack of MLnHM2_a0oy-00469-00100000-00100215 confidence in our electoral system that MLnHM2_a0oy-00470-00100216-00100399 distrust has been sown by activists MLnHM2_a0oy-00471-00100400-00100687 making misrepresentations about fraud MLnHM2_a0oy-00472-00100688-00100847 before putting obstacles in the way of MLnHM2_a0oy-00473-00100848-00100999 americans exercising their most MLnHM2_a0oy-00474-00101000-00101191 fundamental right there should be a good MLnHM2_a0oy-00475-00101192-00101438 reason to do so and that reason simply MLnHM2_a0oy-00476-00101439-00101567 is not present MLnHM2_a0oy-00477-00101568-00101774 rather than instilling mistrust based on MLnHM2_a0oy-00478-00101775-00101991 often racialized lies about fraud MLnHM2_a0oy-00479-00101992-00102143 lawmakers should be telling the truth MLnHM2_a0oy-00480-00102144-00102343 about our elections the department of MLnHM2_a0oy-00481-00102344-00102518 homeland security called the 2020 MLnHM2_a0oy-00482-00102519-00102734 general election MLnHM2_a0oy-00483-00102735-00103030 the most secure in american history MLnHM2_a0oy-00484-00103031-00103206 even with historic voter turnout this MLnHM2_a0oy-00485-00103207-00103406 year voter participation in this country MLnHM2_a0oy-00486-00103407-00103615 is not what it should be just two-thirds MLnHM2_a0oy-00487-00103616-00103694 of MLnHM2_a0oy-00488-00103695-00103894 eligible americans cast ballots last MLnHM2_a0oy-00489-00103895-00103990 year MLnHM2_a0oy-00490-00103991-00104166 lawmakers should be making working to MLnHM2_a0oy-00491-00104167-00104366 make it easier for americans to vote MLnHM2_a0oy-00492-00104367-00104590 freely and fairly not relying on MLnHM2_a0oy-00493-00104591-00104790 unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud to MLnHM2_a0oy-00494-00104791-00105023 burden voters our democracy is more MLnHM2_a0oy-00495-00105024-00105239 accountable and more representative when MLnHM2_a0oy-00496-00105240-00105631 every eligible american participates MLnHM2_a0oy-00497-00105632-00105792 thank you MLnHM2_a0oy-00498-00105793-00106063 [Applause] MLnHM2_a0oy-00499-00106064-00106295 speaking speaking for the negative MLnHM2_a0oy-00500-00106296-00106527 take it away hands i guess you get an MLnHM2_a0oy-00501-00106528-00106766 extra 60 seconds MLnHM2_a0oy-00502-00106767-00107463 to speak for the negative MLnHM2_a0oy-00503-00107464-00107671 well it is nice to see people in person MLnHM2_a0oy-00504-00107672-00107799 it's been a while since i've been able MLnHM2_a0oy-00505-00107800-00107951 to do that because of zoom and MLnHM2_a0oy-00506-00107952-00108102 everything else so MLnHM2_a0oy-00507-00108103-00108319 it's nice to have an audience here today MLnHM2_a0oy-00508-00108320-00108478 i do want to before i start just very MLnHM2_a0oy-00509-00108479-00108702 quickly thank the reason foundation MLnHM2_a0oy-00510-00108703-00109023 thank gene thank the soho forum MLnHM2_a0oy-00511-00109024-00109223 because one thing that we have seen MLnHM2_a0oy-00512-00109224-00109366 unfortunately in this country is a MLnHM2_a0oy-00513-00109367-00109599 steady erosion of the ability to have MLnHM2_a0oy-00514-00109600-00109734 civil debates MLnHM2_a0oy-00515-00109735-00109958 even about contentious issues and i MLnHM2_a0oy-00516-00109959-00110223 applaud the soho forum for continuing MLnHM2_a0oy-00517-00110224-00110358 what i think is a great american MLnHM2_a0oy-00518-00110359-00110566 tradition that is in sad decline MLnHM2_a0oy-00519-00110567-00110678 especially MLnHM2_a0oy-00520-00110679-00111007 on american campuses MLnHM2_a0oy-00521-00111008-00111158 second i want to emphasize something MLnHM2_a0oy-00522-00111159-00111383 that i learned from my immigrants MLnHM2_a0oy-00523-00111383-00111599 immigrant parents who experienced some MLnHM2_a0oy-00524-00111600-00111847 of the worst dictatorships of the last MLnHM2_a0oy-00525-00111848-00112086 century and that is voting is the MLnHM2_a0oy-00526-00112088-00112247 essential ingredient MLnHM2_a0oy-00527-00112248-00112415 in maintaining and protecting our MLnHM2_a0oy-00528-00112416-00112654 democratic republic and the liberty and MLnHM2_a0oy-00529-00112655-00113007 freedom we enjoy as citizens MLnHM2_a0oy-00530-00113008-00113295 our goal should be to ensure that every MLnHM2_a0oy-00531-00113296-00113463 eligible citizen MLnHM2_a0oy-00532-00113464-00113751 is able to vote but we also have to MLnHM2_a0oy-00533-00113752-00114015 safeguard that vote so that it is not MLnHM2_a0oy-00534-00114016-00114319 voided or stolen through fraud errors MLnHM2_a0oy-00535-00114320-00114599 mistakes or other problems MLnHM2_a0oy-00536-00114600-00114839 we do have an obligation to it to ensure MLnHM2_a0oy-00537-00114840-00115007 fair and secure elections and that MLnHM2_a0oy-00538-00115008-00115247 should be a bipartisan goal MLnHM2_a0oy-00539-00115248-00115447 regardless of MLnHM2_a0oy-00540-00115448-00115583 actually with the reason foundation MLnHM2_a0oy-00541-00115583-00115902 should be a tripartisan goal MLnHM2_a0oy-00542-00115903-00116102 regardless of what political party based MLnHM2_a0oy-00543-00116103-00116231 support MLnHM2_a0oy-00544-00116232-00116543 the mistake that opponents of election MLnHM2_a0oy-00545-00116544-00116686 reform make MLnHM2_a0oy-00546-00116688-00116910 is that they believe you cannot MLnHM2_a0oy-00547-00116911-00117158 guarantee both access and security and MLnHM2_a0oy-00548-00117159-00117302 that is wrong MLnHM2_a0oy-00549-00117303-00117583 you can have both and if you talk to MLnHM2_a0oy-00550-00117583-00117799 members of the public you will find they MLnHM2_a0oy-00551-00117800-00118095 want both access and security MLnHM2_a0oy-00552-00118096-00118319 now the claim that there's been a wave MLnHM2_a0oy-00553-00118320-00118566 of voter suppression going on across the MLnHM2_a0oy-00554-00118567-00118678 country MLnHM2_a0oy-00555-00118679-00118871 for the past decade MLnHM2_a0oy-00556-00118872-00119086 that's when these claims first started MLnHM2_a0oy-00557-00119088-00119358 this first started in 2005 MLnHM2_a0oy-00558-00119359-00119575 more than a decade ago when states like MLnHM2_a0oy-00559-00119576-00119839 indiana and georgia passed some of the MLnHM2_a0oy-00560-00119840-00119934 first MLnHM2_a0oy-00561-00119935-00120371 photo id laws requirements for MLnHM2_a0oy-00562-00120372-00120847 elections um it's false because the MLnHM2_a0oy-00563-00120848-00121031 efforts to improve the integrity of the MLnHM2_a0oy-00564-00121032-00121231 election process whether it's requiring MLnHM2_a0oy-00565-00121232-00121454 an id and keep in mind MLnHM2_a0oy-00566-00121455-00121775 every single state that has put in an id MLnHM2_a0oy-00567-00121776-00122071 requirement provides a free id MLnHM2_a0oy-00568-00122072-00122358 to anyone who doesn't already have one MLnHM2_a0oy-00569-00122359-00122471 and that MLnHM2_a0oy-00570-00122472-00122719 one requirement is overwhelmingly MLnHM2_a0oy-00571-00122720-00122966 supported by americans MLnHM2_a0oy-00572-00122967-00123119 all the polling shows whether it's MLnHM2_a0oy-00573-00123120-00123390 liberal polls or conservative polls MLnHM2_a0oy-00574-00123391-00123590 americans overwhelmingly support that MLnHM2_a0oy-00575-00123591-00123743 they think it's a common sense MLnHM2_a0oy-00576-00123744-00123951 requirement and it doesn't matter MLnHM2_a0oy-00577-00123952-00124151 what party they support it doesn't MLnHM2_a0oy-00578-00124152-00124383 matter what their color or ethnic MLnHM2_a0oy-00579-00124383-00124543 background is MLnHM2_a0oy-00580-00124544-00124886 and it's no doubt because they have to MLnHM2_a0oy-00581-00124888-00125134 show an id almost every day in MLnHM2_a0oy-00582-00125135-00125414 everything they do from boarding a plane MLnHM2_a0oy-00583-00125415-00125623 to going to the pharmacy to seeing a MLnHM2_a0oy-00584-00125624-00125878 doctor to cashing a check to buying MLnHM2_a0oy-00585-00125879-00125983 alcohol MLnHM2_a0oy-00586-00125983-00126110 now MLnHM2_a0oy-00587-00126111-00126334 in states that have put in measures like MLnHM2_a0oy-00588-00126335-00126623 voter id and keep in mind MLnHM2_a0oy-00589-00126624-00126886 what i just said the first voter id laws MLnHM2_a0oy-00590-00126888-00127078 in georgia and indiana were in effect in MLnHM2_a0oy-00591-00127079-00127383 the 2008 election so we've got more than MLnHM2_a0oy-00592-00127383-00127671 a decade's worth of data turnout data MLnHM2_a0oy-00593-00127672-00127886 from those states to show what it does MLnHM2_a0oy-00594-00127888-00128166 not only did turnout not go down MLnHM2_a0oy-00595-00128167-00128407 including of minority of voters in those MLnHM2_a0oy-00596-00128408-00128639 states in fact it went up MLnHM2_a0oy-00597-00128640-00129023 there's also been a steady decrease MLnHM2_a0oy-00598-00129024-00129214 in enforcement enforcement actions by MLnHM2_a0oy-00599-00129215-00129431 the u.s justice department MLnHM2_a0oy-00600-00129432-00129614 okay i used to work there i used to work MLnHM2_a0oy-00601-00129615-00129743 in the civil rights division whose MLnHM2_a0oy-00602-00129744-00129983 responsibility is enforcing the voting MLnHM2_a0oy-00603-00129983-00130151 rights act MLnHM2_a0oy-00604-00130152-00130343 okay the most powerful tool in the MLnHM2_a0oy-00605-00130344-00130623 voting rights act is section two MLnHM2_a0oy-00606-00130624-00130910 of the act it's a permanent nationwide MLnHM2_a0oy-00607-00130911-00131031 provision MLnHM2_a0oy-00608-00131032-00131271 it prohibits racial discrimination and MLnHM2_a0oy-00609-00131272-00131407 voting MLnHM2_a0oy-00610-00131408-00131647 and you would think obviously that if MLnHM2_a0oy-00611-00131648-00131887 there was voter suppression going on MLnHM2_a0oy-00612-00131888-00132111 that's the term created MLnHM2_a0oy-00613-00132112-00132478 by opponents of election reform MLnHM2_a0oy-00614-00132479-00132695 the justice department would be busy MLnHM2_a0oy-00615-00132696-00132854 filing suits MLnHM2_a0oy-00616-00132855-00133071 because the whole point supposedly voter MLnHM2_a0oy-00617-00133072-00133247 suppression is to keep for example MLnHM2_a0oy-00618-00133248-00133599 racial minorities from voting MLnHM2_a0oy-00619-00133600-00133783 the obama administration i'm sure you MLnHM2_a0oy-00620-00133784-00134014 would agree would not exactly be shy MLnHM2_a0oy-00621-00134015-00134199 about using the tools of the justice MLnHM2_a0oy-00622-00134200-00134351 department including the voting rights MLnHM2_a0oy-00623-00134352-00134431 act MLnHM2_a0oy-00624-00134432-00134871 yet in the entire eight years MLnHM2_a0oy-00625-00134872-00135166 of the obama administration they only MLnHM2_a0oy-00626-00135167-00135399 filed four MLnHM2_a0oy-00627-00135400-00135623 enforcement actions under section two of MLnHM2_a0oy-00628-00135624-00135823 the voting rights act claiming that a MLnHM2_a0oy-00629-00135824-00136047 state or jurisdiction was engaging in MLnHM2_a0oy-00630-00136048-00136231 racial discrimination the trump MLnHM2_a0oy-00631-00136232-00136495 administration in four years filed too MLnHM2_a0oy-00632-00136496-00136727 so basically it was the same rate MLnHM2_a0oy-00633-00136728-00136983 uh if there was this huge wave of voter MLnHM2_a0oy-00634-00136984-00137159 suppression going on and there was MLnHM2_a0oy-00635-00137160-00137366 actual evidence MLnHM2_a0oy-00636-00137367-00137678 that measures like voter id were keeping MLnHM2_a0oy-00637-00137679-00137839 people from voting MLnHM2_a0oy-00638-00137840-00138071 lawsuits would have been filed about all MLnHM2_a0oy-00639-00138072-00138454 of these MLnHM2_a0oy-00640-00138455-00138647 let me make a quick point about georgia MLnHM2_a0oy-00641-00138648-00138878 to just give you an example of this MLnHM2_a0oy-00642-00138879-00139078 georgia passed a voter id law first MLnHM2_a0oy-00643-00139079-00139343 effective in the 2008 election a lawsuit MLnHM2_a0oy-00644-00139344-00139527 was filed against it MLnHM2_a0oy-00645-00139528-00139735 the lawsuit was eventually dismissed MLnHM2_a0oy-00646-00139736-00139983 with once after one slight change in the MLnHM2_a0oy-00647-00139984-00140199 law MLnHM2_a0oy-00648-00140200-00140471 the judge in the case MLnHM2_a0oy-00649-00140472-00140839 who was a democratic nominee MLnHM2_a0oy-00650-00140840-00141031 said that after two years of litigation MLnHM2_a0oy-00651-00141032-00141175 the plaintiffs in that case including MLnHM2_a0oy-00652-00141176-00141447 the aclu were unable to come up with a MLnHM2_a0oy-00653-00141448-00141711 single witness who would be unable to MLnHM2_a0oy-00654-00141712-00141927 vote because of the georgia voter id law MLnHM2_a0oy-00655-00141928-00142126 and it's been in place ever since and MLnHM2_a0oy-00656-00142127-00142343 they've seen record registration and MLnHM2_a0oy-00657-00142344-00142502 turnout in the state in fact in the MLnHM2_a0oy-00658-00142503-00142766 first election MLnHM2_a0oy-00659-00142767-00143039 this is the official turnout numbers MLnHM2_a0oy-00660-00143040-00143278 the turnout of black voters in the state MLnHM2_a0oy-00661-00143279-00143671 of georgia in 2008 compared to 2004 when MLnHM2_a0oy-00662-00143672-00144023 there was no voter id law in place MLnHM2_a0oy-00663-00144024-00144439 had a percentage increase of 140 percent MLnHM2_a0oy-00664-00144440-00144831 hispanic turnout went up 42 MLnHM2_a0oy-00665-00144832-00145199 white's turnout went up 8 MLnHM2_a0oy-00666-00145200-00145454 in 2010 MLnHM2_a0oy-00667-00145455-00145695 congressional elections barack obama not MLnHM2_a0oy-00668-00145696-00145911 on the ballot MLnHM2_a0oy-00669-00145912-00146159 compared to 2006 when there was no voter MLnHM2_a0oy-00670-00146160-00146543 id in place black turnout went up 66.5 MLnHM2_a0oy-00671-00146544-00146959 percent hispanic turnout went up over 44 MLnHM2_a0oy-00672-00146960-00147295 white turnout went up 11 now when i cite MLnHM2_a0oy-00673-00147296-00147599 those figures for 2008 about the huge MLnHM2_a0oy-00674-00147600-00147783 increase in turnout MLnHM2_a0oy-00675-00147784-00147911 in georgia in fact they had record MLnHM2_a0oy-00676-00147912-00148143 turnout people say well of course MLnHM2_a0oy-00677-00148144-00148335 barack obama was on the ballot that's MLnHM2_a0oy-00678-00148336-00148583 true we had a big increase in turnout MLnHM2_a0oy-00679-00148584-00148919 across the country but in fact MLnHM2_a0oy-00680-00148920-00149247 the democratic turnout in 2008 MLnHM2_a0oy-00681-00149248-00149575 in the general election MLnHM2_a0oy-00682-00149576-00149719 in georgia MLnHM2_a0oy-00683-00149720-00149999 was 6.1 percentage points which was the MLnHM2_a0oy-00684-00150000-00150366 fifth largest increase in the nation MLnHM2_a0oy-00685-00150367-00150599 far above other states like new york MLnHM2_a0oy-00686-00150600-00150799 which has no voter id law MLnHM2_a0oy-00687-00150800-00151014 the overall turnout in the general MLnHM2_a0oy-00688-00151015-00151343 election in georgia in the 2008 MLnHM2_a0oy-00689-00151344-00151471 election MLnHM2_a0oy-00690-00151472-00151751 it went up 6.7 percentage points over MLnHM2_a0oy-00691-00151752-00152014 the prior election the second largest MLnHM2_a0oy-00692-00152015-00152263 increase in the country MLnHM2_a0oy-00693-00152264-00152535 indiana the same thing happened remember MLnHM2_a0oy-00694-00152536-00152654 indiana MLnHM2_a0oy-00695-00152655-00152847 put in a voter id law it was in place MLnHM2_a0oy-00696-00152848-00153199 for the first time in 2008 MLnHM2_a0oy-00697-00153200-00153459 democratic turnout in the state was up MLnHM2_a0oy-00698-00153460-00153807 8.32 percentage points over 2004 when MLnHM2_a0oy-00699-00153808-00153966 there was no id MLnHM2_a0oy-00700-00153967-00154214 that was the largest increase in MLnHM2_a0oy-00701-00154215-00154414 democratic turnout MLnHM2_a0oy-00702-00154415-00154790 in the nation MLnHM2_a0oy-00703-00154791-00155023 the whole point of this is that the data MLnHM2_a0oy-00704-00155024-00155254 actually shows that all these claims MLnHM2_a0oy-00705-00155255-00155447 that voter id is going to keep people MLnHM2_a0oy-00706-00155448-00155647 from voting is just not true MLnHM2_a0oy-00707-00155648-00155839 don't if you doubt me MLnHM2_a0oy-00708-00155840-00156071 google a study two years ago from the MLnHM2_a0oy-00709-00156072-00156399 national bureau of economic research MLnHM2_a0oy-00710-00156400-00156575 they looked at more than a decade's MLnHM2_a0oy-00711-00156576-00156814 worth of turnout data in all 50 states MLnHM2_a0oy-00712-00156815-00157047 in the district of columbia MLnHM2_a0oy-00713-00157048-00157326 and their conclusion MLnHM2_a0oy-00714-00157327-00157519 which i quote is MLnHM2_a0oy-00715-00157520-00157735 voter id had no negative effect on MLnHM2_a0oy-00716-00157736-00157975 registration or turnout overall or for MLnHM2_a0oy-00717-00157976-00158207 any specific group defined by race MLnHM2_a0oy-00718-00158208-00158543 gender age or party affiliation MLnHM2_a0oy-00719-00158544-00158783 now all the extraordinary claims you've MLnHM2_a0oy-00720-00158784-00158959 seen about MLnHM2_a0oy-00721-00158960-00159199 georgia texas MLnHM2_a0oy-00722-00159200-00159407 doing all these terrible things people MLnHM2_a0oy-00723-00159408-00159647 keep people out to vote MLnHM2_a0oy-00724-00159648-00159854 let me give an example of what was in MLnHM2_a0oy-00725-00159855-00160151 the georgia reform that so MLnHM2_a0oy-00726-00160152-00160366 outraged uh people in the media and MLnHM2_a0oy-00727-00160367-00160495 elsewhere MLnHM2_a0oy-00728-00160496-00160775 as i said georgia's had a a voter id law MLnHM2_a0oy-00729-00160776-00160926 in place for in-person voting for more MLnHM2_a0oy-00730-00160927-00161126 than a decade they've had no problems MLnHM2_a0oy-00731-00161127-00161254 they've had big increases in MLnHM2_a0oy-00732-00161255-00161439 registration and turnout MLnHM2_a0oy-00733-00161440-00161559 so MLnHM2_a0oy-00734-00161560-00161702 what happened in the election they had a MLnHM2_a0oy-00735-00161703-00161926 huge increase in absentee ballots so MLnHM2_a0oy-00736-00161927-00162135 they said well look we really ought to MLnHM2_a0oy-00737-00162136-00162271 extend MLnHM2_a0oy-00738-00162272-00162590 the id requirement to absentee ballots MLnHM2_a0oy-00739-00162591-00162854 made it extraordinarily easy MLnHM2_a0oy-00740-00162855-00163023 to comply MLnHM2_a0oy-00741-00163024-00163207 when you reply when you apply for an MLnHM2_a0oy-00742-00163208-00163487 absentee ballot you simply wrote in MLnHM2_a0oy-00743-00163488-00163639 the serial number of your driver's MLnHM2_a0oy-00744-00163640-00163823 license or MLnHM2_a0oy-00745-00163824-00164207 the serial number of the free id MLnHM2_a0oy-00746-00164208-00164390 that they would provide for you and if MLnHM2_a0oy-00747-00164391-00164623 you had neither of those MLnHM2_a0oy-00748-00164624-00164823 you wrote in the last four digits of MLnHM2_a0oy-00749-00164824-00165159 your social security number MLnHM2_a0oy-00750-00165160-00165495 and if you didn't have any of that MLnHM2_a0oy-00751-00165496-00165743 you could send in a photocopy of a MLnHM2_a0oy-00752-00165744-00166087 utility bill bank statement paycheck or MLnHM2_a0oy-00753-00166088-00166263 any government document with your name MLnHM2_a0oy-00754-00166264-00166423 and address on it MLnHM2_a0oy-00755-00166424-00166623 now if that language sounds familiar it MLnHM2_a0oy-00756-00166624-00166807 should be because that's a federal MLnHM2_a0oy-00757-00166808-00167031 requirement first MLnHM2_a0oy-00758-00167032-00167247 put in place in 2002 and to help america MLnHM2_a0oy-00759-00167248-00167631 vote act congress passed a law MLnHM2_a0oy-00760-00167632-00167871 92 senators voted for including the MLnHM2_a0oy-00761-00167872-00168038 current president MLnHM2_a0oy-00762-00168039-00168271 that said the first time you registered MLnHM2_a0oy-00763-00168272-00168390 a vote MLnHM2_a0oy-00764-00168391-00168607 if you vote by mail the first time you MLnHM2_a0oy-00765-00168608-00168719 go vote MLnHM2_a0oy-00766-00168720-00168999 you have to provide either a picture id MLnHM2_a0oy-00767-00169000-00169102 or MLnHM2_a0oy-00768-00169103-00169447 a copy of a utility bill bank statement MLnHM2_a0oy-00769-00169448-00169663 paycheck or government document that is MLnHM2_a0oy-00770-00169664-00169926 what supposedly is keeping people out of MLnHM2_a0oy-00771-00169927-00170159 the polls but we know from the numbers MLnHM2_a0oy-00772-00170160-00170511 that's just simply not true MLnHM2_a0oy-00773-00170512-00170966 um MLnHM2_a0oy-00774-00170967-00171151 the other thing to keep in mind is that MLnHM2_a0oy-00775-00171152-00171383 many of the other provisions MLnHM2_a0oy-00776-00171384-00171559 that people are saying are somehow going MLnHM2_a0oy-00777-00171560-00171719 to restrict people to vote when you MLnHM2_a0oy-00778-00171720-00171863 actually look at the content of the MLnHM2_a0oy-00779-00171864-00172351 bills it's just not the case MLnHM2_a0oy-00780-00172352-00172671 one of the things that texas just did MLnHM2_a0oy-00781-00172672-00173302 is they said that MLnHM2_a0oy-00782-00173303-00173526 they are going to put in MLnHM2_a0oy-00783-00173527-00173790 a requirement in large counties to put MLnHM2_a0oy-00784-00173791-00174047 in video surveillance MLnHM2_a0oy-00785-00174048-00174383 in the locations where votes are being MLnHM2_a0oy-00786-00174384-00174614 counted and tabulated MLnHM2_a0oy-00787-00174615-00174790 now does anybody think there's actually MLnHM2_a0oy-00788-00174791-00174966 something wrong with that MLnHM2_a0oy-00789-00174967-00175223 transparency is the heart of having fair MLnHM2_a0oy-00790-00175224-00175366 elections MLnHM2_a0oy-00791-00175367-00175631 right we want transparency that's why MLnHM2_a0oy-00792-00175632-00175878 the u.s state department MLnHM2_a0oy-00793-00175879-00176175 sends teams of american observers MLnHM2_a0oy-00794-00176176-00176383 to fledgling democracies all over the MLnHM2_a0oy-00795-00176384-00176519 world MLnHM2_a0oy-00796-00176520-00176854 and yet this is being criticized MLnHM2_a0oy-00797-00176855-00177014 as somehow going to keep people from MLnHM2_a0oy-00798-00177015-00177166 voting that there's going to be video MLnHM2_a0oy-00799-00177167-00177326 surveillance to make sure that MLnHM2_a0oy-00800-00177327-00177447 everything's being done the way it MLnHM2_a0oy-00801-00177448-00177623 should MLnHM2_a0oy-00802-00177624-00177814 they're also criticizing the fact that MLnHM2_a0oy-00803-00177815-00178111 texas strengthened its laws on election MLnHM2_a0oy-00804-00178112-00178366 observers MLnHM2_a0oy-00805-00178367-00178575 now let's make it clear election MLnHM2_a0oy-00806-00178576-00178751 observers can do nothing other than MLnHM2_a0oy-00807-00178752-00178854 observe MLnHM2_a0oy-00808-00178855-00178990 if they interfere with the voting MLnHM2_a0oy-00809-00178991-00179183 process they can be ejected from a MLnHM2_a0oy-00810-00179184-00179283 polling MLnHM2_a0oy-00811-00179284-00179575 place and in fact if they engage in any MLnHM2_a0oy-00812-00179576-00179766 kind of intimidation or coercion or MLnHM2_a0oy-00813-00179767-00179911 pressure they can be criminally MLnHM2_a0oy-00814-00179912-00180078 prosecuted MLnHM2_a0oy-00815-00180079-00180414 but you all saw in the last election MLnHM2_a0oy-00816-00180415-00180590 observers MLnHM2_a0oy-00817-00180591-00180814 being ejected from polling places not MLnHM2_a0oy-00818-00180815-00181031 because they had engaged in bad behavior MLnHM2_a0oy-00819-00181032-00181247 but to apparently MLnHM2_a0oy-00820-00181248-00181438 not allow them to see what's going on or MLnHM2_a0oy-00821-00181439-00181743 you saw them play so far back MLnHM2_a0oy-00822-00181744-00181911 that they could not effectively see what MLnHM2_a0oy-00823-00181912-00182054 was going on MLnHM2_a0oy-00824-00182055-00182278 so texas simply has strengthened its law MLnHM2_a0oy-00825-00182279-00182519 they've made it very clear MLnHM2_a0oy-00826-00182520-00182726 observers cannot interfere with the MLnHM2_a0oy-00827-00182727-00182878 election process they can't interfere MLnHM2_a0oy-00828-00182879-00183126 with voters but election officials MLnHM2_a0oy-00829-00183127-00183311 cannot MLnHM2_a0oy-00830-00183312-00183551 simply decide to eject observers out MLnHM2_a0oy-00831-00183552-00183702 because they don't want observers there MLnHM2_a0oy-00832-00183703-00183878 seeing what they're doing again why MLnHM2_a0oy-00833-00183879-00184166 would anybody be against that MLnHM2_a0oy-00834-00184167-00184423 that is the kind of thing we want we MLnHM2_a0oy-00835-00184424-00184766 want observers of all of the parties MLnHM2_a0oy-00836-00184767-00184959 whether it's democrats libertarians MLnHM2_a0oy-00837-00184960-00185183 republicans to be able to be in polling MLnHM2_a0oy-00838-00185184-00185431 places and not allow election officials MLnHM2_a0oy-00839-00185432-00185671 to throw them out MLnHM2_a0oy-00840-00185672-00185831 another big MLnHM2_a0oy-00841-00185832-00186223 claim that has been constantly made MLnHM2_a0oy-00842-00186224-00186590 is that uh when when texas and other MLnHM2_a0oy-00843-00186591-00186911 states when they ban what's what people MLnHM2_a0oy-00844-00186912-00187126 call vote harvesting MLnHM2_a0oy-00845-00187127-00187350 i call it vote trafficking that that's MLnHM2_a0oy-00846-00187351-00187543 somehow going to keep people from voting MLnHM2_a0oy-00847-00187544-00187687 what does that mean MLnHM2_a0oy-00848-00187688-00187887 look you can vote by absentee ballot in MLnHM2_a0oy-00849-00187888-00188023 new york MLnHM2_a0oy-00850-00188024-00188271 and other states and you can mail your MLnHM2_a0oy-00851-00188272-00188478 ballot back depending on the postal MLnHM2_a0oy-00852-00188479-00188759 service to get it back for you or you MLnHM2_a0oy-00853-00188760-00188935 can personally deliver it yourself a MLnHM2_a0oy-00854-00188936-00189095 member of your family can personally MLnHM2_a0oy-00855-00189096-00189326 deliver it a designated caregiver can MLnHM2_a0oy-00856-00189327-00189550 personally deliver it but in about half MLnHM2_a0oy-00857-00189551-00189678 the states MLnHM2_a0oy-00858-00189679-00189943 they have a wise policy of banning MLnHM2_a0oy-00859-00189944-00190159 third-party strangers from able to come MLnHM2_a0oy-00860-00190160-00190343 to your front door MLnHM2_a0oy-00861-00190344-00190519 and pick up your ballot and deliver it MLnHM2_a0oy-00862-00190520-00190766 why is that a good policy do you really MLnHM2_a0oy-00863-00190767-00191111 think it's a good idea for candidates MLnHM2_a0oy-00864-00191112-00191423 campaign activists MLnHM2_a0oy-00865-00191424-00191575 party uh MLnHM2_a0oy-00866-00191576-00191902 volunteers and political guns for hire MLnHM2_a0oy-00867-00191903-00192207 to be able to go to voters homes MLnHM2_a0oy-00868-00192208-00192399 and pick up their ballots that does two MLnHM2_a0oy-00869-00192400-00192590 things one it puts them in a position to MLnHM2_a0oy-00870-00192591-00192863 pressure and coerce voters MLnHM2_a0oy-00871-00192864-00193071 which has been a problem in texas MLnHM2_a0oy-00872-00193072-00193271 they've had MLnHM2_a0oy-00873-00193272-00193543 numerous prosecutions there of that MLnHM2_a0oy-00874-00193544-00193959 but it also puts them in the MLnHM2_a0oy-00875-00193960-00194126 it gives them the ability to handle MLnHM2_a0oy-00876-00194127-00194375 something very valuable to them all of MLnHM2_a0oy-00877-00194376-00194550 those individuals have a stake in the MLnHM2_a0oy-00878-00194551-00194759 outcome of the election MLnHM2_a0oy-00879-00194760-00195007 and yet you're giving them ballots MLnHM2_a0oy-00880-00195008-00195207 which means that they could potentially MLnHM2_a0oy-00881-00195208-00195423 alter or change them which is what MLnHM2_a0oy-00882-00195424-00195614 happened in the ninth congressional MLnHM2_a0oy-00883-00195615-00196014 district in north carolina in 2018. MLnHM2_a0oy-00884-00196015-00196175 that's why more than half a dozen MLnHM2_a0oy-00885-00196176-00196359 individuals there were MLnHM2_a0oy-00886-00196360-00196502 arrested MLnHM2_a0oy-00887-00196503-00196711 because they were collecting absentee MLnHM2_a0oy-00888-00196712-00196926 ballots they were in some cases filling MLnHM2_a0oy-00889-00196927-00197143 them out altering the choices made by MLnHM2_a0oy-00890-00197144-00197495 voters signing them MLnHM2_a0oy-00891-00197496-00197719 and the election was overturned one MLnHM2_a0oy-00892-00197720-00198007 minute because of that fortunately MLnHM2_a0oy-00893-00198008-00198254 um i'm not saying that there is massive MLnHM2_a0oy-00894-00198255-00198447 voter fraud in the united states MLnHM2_a0oy-00895-00198448-00198607 but there's enough that we should be MLnHM2_a0oy-00896-00198608-00198823 concerned about it and that's not just MLnHM2_a0oy-00897-00198824-00199054 me saying it it's the u.s supreme court MLnHM2_a0oy-00898-00199055-00199166 saying that MLnHM2_a0oy-00899-00199167-00199711 in 2008 when they upheld MLnHM2_a0oy-00900-00199712-00199943 indiana's voter id law and what the MLnHM2_a0oy-00901-00199944-00200263 supreme court said is that MLnHM2_a0oy-00902-00200264-00200375 there have been MLnHM2_a0oy-00903-00200376-00200599 flagrant examples of such fraud MLnHM2_a0oy-00904-00200600-00200823 throughout our history MLnHM2_a0oy-00905-00200824-00201150 documented by historians and journalists MLnHM2_a0oy-00906-00201151-00201319 and it could make the difference in a MLnHM2_a0oy-00907-00201320-00201487 close election MLnHM2_a0oy-00908-00201488-00201743 and we have close elections all the time MLnHM2_a0oy-00909-00201744-00202047 in this country like MLnHM2_a0oy-00910-00202048-00202183 the compton MLnHM2_a0oy-00911-00202184-00202383 case that was just mentioned MLnHM2_a0oy-00912-00202384-00202647 where half a dozen individuals have been MLnHM2_a0oy-00913-00202648-00202878 indicted criminally indicted for using MLnHM2_a0oy-00914-00202879-00203150 absentee ballots to apparently steal a MLnHM2_a0oy-00915-00203151-00203423 city council election this june MLnHM2_a0oy-00916-00203424-00203647 including a city council member who they MLnHM2_a0oy-00917-00203648-00203895 wanted to make sure got elected who won MLnHM2_a0oy-00918-00203896-00203983 by MLnHM2_a0oy-00919-00203984-00204111 one vote MLnHM2_a0oy-00920-00204112-00204293 thanks MLnHM2_a0oy-00921-00204294-00204783 [Applause] MLnHM2_a0oy-00922-00204784-00204990 uh thank you hands and uh five minutes MLnHM2_a0oy-00923-00204991-00205175 for rebuttal ellen you can take the MLnHM2_a0oy-00924-00205176-00205710 podium if you'd like yeah MLnHM2_a0oy-00925-00205711-00205966 thanks and i absolutely agree that MLnHM2_a0oy-00926-00205967-00206166 voting access and the security of our MLnHM2_a0oy-00927-00206167-00206446 elections are not mutually exclusive MLnHM2_a0oy-00928-00206448-00206679 that's why we encourage policies like MLnHM2_a0oy-00929-00206680-00206903 automatic voter registration where MLnHM2_a0oy-00930-00206904-00207103 voters automatically get registered when MLnHM2_a0oy-00931-00207104-00207342 they interact with the dmv for example MLnHM2_a0oy-00932-00207344-00207510 unless they opt out MLnHM2_a0oy-00933-00207511-00207694 that has been shown to increase MLnHM2_a0oy-00934-00207696-00207886 registration numbers in all in the MLnHM2_a0oy-00935-00207887-00208134 states that has it has been implemented MLnHM2_a0oy-00936-00208135-00208358 and it simultaneously keeps our voter MLnHM2_a0oy-00937-00208359-00208551 roles accurate because people's MLnHM2_a0oy-00938-00208552-00208742 addresses are updated when they interact MLnHM2_a0oy-00939-00208744-00208903 with those MLnHM2_a0oy-00940-00208904-00209055 voter registration and government MLnHM2_a0oy-00941-00209056-00209310 agencies so that our voter rolls are MLnHM2_a0oy-00942-00209311-00209462 accurate and clean MLnHM2_a0oy-00943-00209463-00209655 those are not the kinds of policies that MLnHM2_a0oy-00944-00209656-00209910 are being introduced and enacted this MLnHM2_a0oy-00945-00209911-00210006 year MLnHM2_a0oy-00946-00210007-00210239 we heard a lot about voter id MLnHM2_a0oy-00947-00210240-00210431 but we didn't hear a lot about all of MLnHM2_a0oy-00948-00210432-00210646 the very many policies that make it MLnHM2_a0oy-00949-00210648-00210831 harder to vote by mail and then make it MLnHM2_a0oy-00950-00210832-00211127 harder to vote early those policies that MLnHM2_a0oy-00951-00211128-00211239 that MLnHM2_a0oy-00952-00211240-00211463 increase voting methods and make voting MLnHM2_a0oy-00953-00211464-00211623 more convenient that have been MLnHM2_a0oy-00954-00211623-00211982 conclusively shown to increase turnout MLnHM2_a0oy-00955-00211983-00212158 those policies that voters took MLnHM2_a0oy-00956-00212159-00212398 advantage of in unprecedented numbers MLnHM2_a0oy-00957-00212400-00212510 last year MLnHM2_a0oy-00958-00212511-00212703 those are precisely the methods of MLnHM2_a0oy-00959-00212704-00212967 voting that have been attacked by new MLnHM2_a0oy-00960-00212967-00213191 laws this year by shortening early MLnHM2_a0oy-00961-00213192-00213423 voting periods by making it harder to MLnHM2_a0oy-00962-00213423-00213671 drop off ballots by making it harder to MLnHM2_a0oy-00963-00213671-00213951 obtain an absentee ballot by prohibiting MLnHM2_a0oy-00964-00213952-00214119 election officials from sending out MLnHM2_a0oy-00965-00214119-00214398 applications MLnHM2_a0oy-00966-00214400-00214542 i think it's worth it particularly MLnHM2_a0oy-00967-00214544-00214887 touching on texas and the um example of MLnHM2_a0oy-00968-00214888-00215151 um the ex strength the quote MLnHM2_a0oy-00969-00215152-00215375 strengthening of laws on election MLnHM2_a0oy-00970-00215376-00215503 observers MLnHM2_a0oy-00971-00215504-00215679 one of the other things that the texas MLnHM2_a0oy-00972-00215680-00216023 law did was criminally prohibit the MLnHM2_a0oy-00973-00216023-00216319 removal of a poll watcher MLnHM2_a0oy-00974-00216319-00216487 unless MLnHM2_a0oy-00975-00216488-00216719 an election judge which is a local local MLnHM2_a0oy-00976-00216719-00216903 poll worker election official working in MLnHM2_a0oy-00977-00216904-00217087 a polling place in texas MLnHM2_a0oy-00978-00217088-00217358 personally observes that that watcher MLnHM2_a0oy-00979-00217359-00217558 violated texas law MLnHM2_a0oy-00980-00217559-00217767 that means that a dozen voters can MLnHM2_a0oy-00981-00217767-00217982 report to an election judge working the MLnHM2_a0oy-00982-00217983-00218167 polling place that they have been MLnHM2_a0oy-00983-00218167-00218375 intimidated by that by a particular MLnHM2_a0oy-00984-00218376-00218487 watcher MLnHM2_a0oy-00985-00218488-00218694 and that election judge still cannot MLnHM2_a0oy-00986-00218696-00218863 remove that watcher MLnHM2_a0oy-00987-00218864-00219023 without risking MLnHM2_a0oy-00988-00219023-00219503 felony prosecution MLnHM2_a0oy-00989-00219504-00219663 i also want to note that we heard we MLnHM2_a0oy-00990-00219664-00219839 heard a bit about vote harvesting and MLnHM2_a0oy-00991-00219840-00220158 the risks there but just like the risk MLnHM2_a0oy-00992-00220159-00220398 of election fraud for voting in person MLnHM2_a0oy-00993-00220400-00220623 the risk of committing male MLnHM2_a0oy-00994-00220623-00220903 ballot fraud is still more rare than MLnHM2_a0oy-00995-00220904-00221134 being struck by lightning MLnHM2_a0oy-00996-00221135-00221279 and turning MLnHM2_a0oy-00997-00221280-00221591 again to voter id it's true that that MLnHM2_a0oy-00998-00221592-00221823 states typically provide those ids for MLnHM2_a0oy-00999-00221823-00222127 free um and i have a job many of you may MLnHM2_a0oy-01000-00222128-00222334 have jobs where you can run out on your MLnHM2_a0oy-01001-00222335-00222631 lunch break and go to the dmv and get a MLnHM2_a0oy-01002-00222632-00222782 new license if you've moved to a new MLnHM2_a0oy-01003-00222783-00222942 state or get a license for the first MLnHM2_a0oy-01004-00222944-00223110 time MLnHM2_a0oy-01005-00223111-00223334 but but time isn't free and for many MLnHM2_a0oy-01006-00223335-00223567 americans they don't have the ability to MLnHM2_a0oy-01007-00223567-00223934 do that so if you don't have that time MLnHM2_a0oy-01008-00223935-00224134 if you don't have the accessibility to MLnHM2_a0oy-01009-00224135-00224406 get to a dmv or another government MLnHM2_a0oy-01010-00224407-00224655 agency if you are a voter with a dis if MLnHM2_a0oy-01011-00224656-00224871 you are an american with a disability if MLnHM2_a0oy-01012-00224871-00225006 you are a person with limited MLnHM2_a0oy-01013-00225007-00225191 transportation access MLnHM2_a0oy-01014-00225192-00225487 actually obtaining that identification MLnHM2_a0oy-01015-00225488-00225719 is difficult even if financially it MLnHM2_a0oy-01016-00225719-00225975 doesn't come at a cost to you MLnHM2_a0oy-01017-00225976-00226175 likewise we heard about the georgia law MLnHM2_a0oy-01018-00226176-00226471 which requires somebody to submit a copy MLnHM2_a0oy-01019-00226471-00226663 of a utility bill if they don't have an MLnHM2_a0oy-01020-00226664-00226903 id number of course that requires MLnHM2_a0oy-01021-00226904-00227039 somebody to have access to a MLnHM2_a0oy-01022-00227040-00227294 photocopying machine and a printer MLnHM2_a0oy-01023-00227296-00227519 many of us may have that many of us may MLnHM2_a0oy-01024-00227519-00227679 have gained access to that as we've been MLnHM2_a0oy-01025-00227680-00227839 working from home over the course of the MLnHM2_a0oy-01026-00227840-00228134 last 18 months but for many georgians MLnHM2_a0oy-01027-00228135-00228431 that may very well not be accessible so MLnHM2_a0oy-01028-00228432-00228710 these are policies that MLnHM2_a0oy-01029-00228711-00228863 many of which have been MLnHM2_a0oy-01030-00228864-00229046 policies like restricting mail voting MLnHM2_a0oy-01031-00229048-00229246 restricting early voting that have been MLnHM2_a0oy-01032-00229248-00229479 shown to decrease turnout and to the MLnHM2_a0oy-01033-00229480-00229663 extent that these policies don't MLnHM2_a0oy-01034-00229664-00229958 decrease overall turnout we've seen that MLnHM2_a0oy-01035-00229959-00230151 they disproportionately burden certain MLnHM2_a0oy-01036-00230152-00230310 voters who MLnHM2_a0oy-01037-00230311-00230606 who rely on methods like mail voting MLnHM2_a0oy-01038-00230607-00230823 if you're a voter with disabilities who MLnHM2_a0oy-01039-00230823-00231087 don't have access to be able to run over MLnHM2_a0oy-01040-00231088-00231319 to a government agency MLnHM2_a0oy-01041-00231319-00231742 i've got the one minute MLnHM2_a0oy-01042-00231744-00231967 and or who don't have access to a MLnHM2_a0oy-01043-00231967-00232134 printer MLnHM2_a0oy-01044-00232135-00232439 what is clear is that states even even MLnHM2_a0oy-01045-00232440-00232606 in instances where they are not MLnHM2_a0oy-01046-00232607-00232863 successful at decreasing voter turnout MLnHM2_a0oy-01047-00232864-00233071 or registration MLnHM2_a0oy-01048-00233071-00233239 are trying to make it harder for MLnHM2_a0oy-01049-00233240-00233479 americans to vote and they have told us MLnHM2_a0oy-01050-00233480-00233703 that time and time again MLnHM2_a0oy-01051-00233704-00233967 it's important that we push back on that MLnHM2_a0oy-01052-00233967-00234134 and realize that these lawmakers should MLnHM2_a0oy-01053-00234135-00234334 be trying to make it easier for eligible MLnHM2_a0oy-01054-00234335-00234591 americans to to vote rather than trying MLnHM2_a0oy-01055-00234592-00234871 to find ways to MLnHM2_a0oy-01056-00234871-00235119 go after voting access in death by a MLnHM2_a0oy-01057-00235119-00235358 thousand cuts making small changes over MLnHM2_a0oy-01058-00235359-00235558 the course of an election code that make MLnHM2_a0oy-01059-00235559-00235782 it harder overall for voters to overcome MLnHM2_a0oy-01060-00235783-00236015 those burdens burdens that americans MLnHM2_a0oy-01061-00236016-00236167 eligible americans shouldn't have to MLnHM2_a0oy-01062-00236167-00236382 overcome to exercise their fundamental MLnHM2_a0oy-01063-00236383-00236534 right to vote MLnHM2_a0oy-01064-00236535-00236710 thank MLnHM2_a0oy-01065-00236711-00236958 all you MLnHM2_a0oy-01066-00236959-00237575 five minutes for you for rebuttal hans MLnHM2_a0oy-01067-00237576-00237742 i really need an hour for rebuttal but MLnHM2_a0oy-01068-00237744-00238158 i'll try to do it in five minutes um MLnHM2_a0oy-01069-00238159-00238310 a couple things first of all there was a MLnHM2_a0oy-01070-00238311-00238479 mention of the heritage MLnHM2_a0oy-01071-00238480-00238646 election fraud database it has an MLnHM2_a0oy-01072-00238648-00238903 important caveat yeah it's got over uh MLnHM2_a0oy-01073-00238904-00239255 1300 proven cases of fraud and by proven MLnHM2_a0oy-01074-00239256-00239455 i mean somebody was MLnHM2_a0oy-01075-00239456-00239655 convicted in a court of law MLnHM2_a0oy-01076-00239656-00239894 or a judge or a state agency ordered a MLnHM2_a0oy-01077-00239896-00240031 new election like happened in north MLnHM2_a0oy-01078-00240032-00240263 carolina in 2018 because of the absentee MLnHM2_a0oy-01079-00240264-00240423 ballot fraud there MLnHM2_a0oy-01080-00240423-00240646 it is just a sampling of cases there's MLnHM2_a0oy-01081-00240648-00240871 no central database for this you want to MLnHM2_a0oy-01082-00240871-00241071 find these often small cases you got to MLnHM2_a0oy-01083-00241071-00241191 go to every MLnHM2_a0oy-01084-00241192-00241351 county courthouse in the country we MLnHM2_a0oy-01085-00241352-00241494 don't have the resources to do that and MLnHM2_a0oy-01086-00241496-00241655 we very carefully say it's just a MLnHM2_a0oy-01087-00241656-00241879 sampling of cases but you want to know MLnHM2_a0oy-01088-00241880-00242127 how much bigger this problem potentially MLnHM2_a0oy-01089-00242128-00242215 is MLnHM2_a0oy-01090-00242216-00242510 i'll give you a quick uh example of this MLnHM2_a0oy-01091-00242511-00242630 uh MLnHM2_a0oy-01092-00242631-00242742 there's an organization called the MLnHM2_a0oy-01093-00242744-00242942 public interest legal foundation it's a MLnHM2_a0oy-01094-00242944-00243071 non-profit MLnHM2_a0oy-01095-00243071-00243294 and they did something that nobody else MLnHM2_a0oy-01096-00243296-00243591 really has done they obtained MLnHM2_a0oy-01097-00243592-00243791 and bought in some cases the voter MLnHM2_a0oy-01098-00243792-00244055 registration lists of 42 states and the MLnHM2_a0oy-01099-00244056-00244310 voter histories from 42 states MLnHM2_a0oy-01100-00244311-00244479 now a lot of that information MLnHM2_a0oy-01101-00244480-00244639 unfortunately in voter registration MLnHM2_a0oy-01102-00244640-00244879 databases is pretty sparse MLnHM2_a0oy-01103-00244880-00245206 so they supplemented their database with MLnHM2_a0oy-01104-00245207-00245430 commercial data MLnHM2_a0oy-01105-00245431-00245663 particularly from credit agencies MLnHM2_a0oy-01106-00245664-00245903 you all would be scared if you knew how MLnHM2_a0oy-01107-00245904-00246087 much information credit agencies have on MLnHM2_a0oy-01108-00246088-00246175 you MLnHM2_a0oy-01109-00246176-00246423 the point of that was MLnHM2_a0oy-01110-00246423-00246663 they used the credit agency data to MLnHM2_a0oy-01111-00246664-00246958 obtain unique identifiers on each MLnHM2_a0oy-01112-00246959-00247239 registered voter in each state MLnHM2_a0oy-01113-00247240-00247503 that way when they compared the lists MLnHM2_a0oy-01114-00247504-00247758 they would know whether the john smith MLnHM2_a0oy-01115-00247759-00247903 born on MLnHM2_a0oy-01116-00247904-00248087 march 11th MLnHM2_a0oy-01117-00248088-00248351 in georgia was the same or a different MLnHM2_a0oy-01118-00248352-00248527 john smith MLnHM2_a0oy-01119-00248528-00248751 born on march 11 born MLnHM2_a0oy-01120-00248752-00248982 registered in alabama MLnHM2_a0oy-01121-00248983-00249230 then they compared the data so they were MLnHM2_a0oy-01122-00249231-00249551 not getting false positives as other MLnHM2_a0oy-01123-00249552-00249758 people who have tried to done this MLnHM2_a0oy-01124-00249759-00249958 done they released the report last year MLnHM2_a0oy-01125-00249959-00250087 it's called critical conditions you can MLnHM2_a0oy-01126-00250088-00250334 find it on their website they found over MLnHM2_a0oy-01127-00250335-00250567 144 MLnHM2_a0oy-01128-00250567-00250919 000 potential cases of fraud arising out MLnHM2_a0oy-01129-00250919-00251246 of the 2016 and 2018 election let me MLnHM2_a0oy-01130-00251248-00251406 give you a quick summary of some of MLnHM2_a0oy-01131-00251407-00251542 these MLnHM2_a0oy-01132-00251544-00251934 they found 8 300 people who voted who MLnHM2_a0oy-01133-00251935-00252103 were registered and voted in two MLnHM2_a0oy-01134-00252104-00252319 different states during the 2018 MLnHM2_a0oy-01135-00252319-00252567 election MLnHM2_a0oy-01136-00252567-00252710 they found MLnHM2_a0oy-01137-00252711-00252998 almost 8 000 deceased individuals who MLnHM2_a0oy-01138-00253000-00253239 the state said voted in the 2016 MLnHM2_a0oy-01139-00253240-00253551 election and almost 7 000 who voted MLnHM2_a0oy-01140-00253552-00254030 in the 2018. that's our 2018 election MLnHM2_a0oy-01141-00254031-00254406 they found over 43 000 individuals who MLnHM2_a0oy-01142-00254407-00254598 are registered more than once at the MLnHM2_a0oy-01143-00254600-00254871 same address in the same state and voted MLnHM2_a0oy-01144-00254871-00255158 twice in the 2016 election MLnHM2_a0oy-01145-00255159-00255239 and MLnHM2_a0oy-01146-00255240-00255503 38 000 people registered more than once MLnHM2_a0oy-01147-00255504-00255710 at the same address who cast two votes MLnHM2_a0oy-01148-00255711-00255919 in the 2018 election now you might MLnHM2_a0oy-01149-00255919-00256094 wonder how that can happen that's MLnHM2_a0oy-01150-00256096-00256279 because election officials aren't very MLnHM2_a0oy-01151-00256280-00256463 good MLnHM2_a0oy-01152-00256464-00256767 at realizing that somebody whose name is MLnHM2_a0oy-01153-00256767-00256927 slightly expelled with a slight MLnHM2_a0oy-01154-00256928-00257191 discrepancy is actually the same person MLnHM2_a0oy-01155-00257192-00257375 and these individuals were able to take MLnHM2_a0oy-01156-00257376-00257687 advantage of that to vote twice MLnHM2_a0oy-01157-00257688-00257839 they found MLnHM2_a0oy-01158-00257840-00258127 uh 5500 individuals registered at two MLnHM2_a0oy-01159-00258128-00258503 different addresses in the same state MLnHM2_a0oy-01160-00258504-00258782 who voted twice in the 2018 election and MLnHM2_a0oy-01161-00258783-00259082 they found 34 000 MLnHM2_a0oy-01162-00259083-00259398 individuals who voted MLnHM2_a0oy-01163-00259400-00259646 in the 2018 election MLnHM2_a0oy-01164-00259648-00259815 who were you remember you're supposed to MLnHM2_a0oy-01165-00259816-00260079 be registered where you live right MLnHM2_a0oy-01166-00260080-00260334 and they found them registered at MLnHM2_a0oy-01167-00260335-00260615 everything from a commercial addresses MLnHM2_a0oy-01168-00260616-00260951 such as gas stations casinos MLnHM2_a0oy-01169-00260952-00261327 they found vacant lots they found a mine MLnHM2_a0oy-01170-00261328-00261510 in nevada it's just one thing after MLnHM2_a0oy-01171-00261511-00261687 another like that MLnHM2_a0oy-01172-00261688-00262006 now the point of this is that our system MLnHM2_a0oy-01173-00262007-00262206 unfortunately is not MLnHM2_a0oy-01174-00262207-00262406 very good in catching things like that MLnHM2_a0oy-01175-00262407-00262575 election officials aren't very good at MLnHM2_a0oy-01176-00262576-00262830 it either this report's been out since MLnHM2_a0oy-01177-00262831-00263175 last year MLnHM2_a0oy-01178-00263176-00263479 not a single election official in any of MLnHM2_a0oy-01179-00263480-00263727 the 42 states MLnHM2_a0oy-01180-00263728-00263910 contacted the public interest legal MLnHM2_a0oy-01181-00263911-00264134 foundation and said can you send us the MLnHM2_a0oy-01182-00264135-00264375 data you've got on people in our states MLnHM2_a0oy-01183-00264376-00264543 so that we can investigate this and see MLnHM2_a0oy-01184-00264544-00264782 if this is valid not a single law MLnHM2_a0oy-01185-00264783-00265030 enforcement official MLnHM2_a0oy-01186-00265031-00265295 in any of those states contacted MLnHM2_a0oy-01187-00265296-00265534 them to say can you send us information MLnHM2_a0oy-01188-00265535-00265743 so we can investigate it and see if this MLnHM2_a0oy-01189-00265744-00265927 is correct MLnHM2_a0oy-01190-00265928-00266110 which shows you something that i've MLnHM2_a0oy-01191-00266111-00266303 encountered now for over 20 years MLnHM2_a0oy-01192-00266304-00266439 including when i was at the justice MLnHM2_a0oy-01193-00266440-00266727 department which is that unfortunately MLnHM2_a0oy-01194-00266728-00266943 a lot of prosecutors is not a priority MLnHM2_a0oy-01195-00266944-00267047 for them MLnHM2_a0oy-01196-00267048-00267271 when they are working on murders and MLnHM2_a0oy-01197-00267272-00267495 rapes and bank robberies they just don't MLnHM2_a0oy-01198-00267496-00267719 think this is very important MLnHM2_a0oy-01199-00267720-00267887 time's out yeah okay MLnHM2_a0oy-01200-00267888-00268782 so 30 seconds thanks okay MLnHM2_a0oy-01201-00268783-00269110 well we now get to the q a portion of MLnHM2_a0oy-01202-00269111-00269399 the evening we have a microphone just on MLnHM2_a0oy-01203-00269400-00269758 that side for people to line up and ask MLnHM2_a0oy-01204-00269759-00269910 questions MLnHM2_a0oy-01205-00269911-00270175 we the format also includes the MLnHM2_a0oy-01206-00270176-00270439 opportunity for each of you to ask the MLnHM2_a0oy-01207-00270440-00270710 other question at any time MLnHM2_a0oy-01208-00270711-00270999 eliza and hans would you pick up those MLnHM2_a0oy-01209-00271000-00271206 mics and make sure that MLnHM2_a0oy-01210-00271207-00271471 you speak clearly into them MLnHM2_a0oy-01211-00271472-00271639 and i MLnHM2_a0oy-01212-00271640-00271887 want to ask you eliza would you like to MLnHM2_a0oy-01213-00271888-00272255 put a question to hands at this point MLnHM2_a0oy-01214-00272256-00272382 i would love to hear first from the MLnHM2_a0oy-01215-00272383-00272599 audience okay folks have questions all MLnHM2_a0oy-01216-00272600-00272799 right uh and uh hands would you like to MLnHM2_a0oy-01217-00272800-00272991 put maybe our only agreement of the MLnHM2_a0oy-01218-00272992-00273206 evening MLnHM2_a0oy-01219-00273207-00273463 i'm gonna i'm gonna start uh with a MLnHM2_a0oy-01220-00273464-00273758 moderator's prerogative uh ask a MLnHM2_a0oy-01221-00273759-00274087 question uh eliza i take it uh MLnHM2_a0oy-01222-00274088-00274327 just to verify something in this case i MLnHM2_a0oy-01223-00274328-00274639 take it you believe that MLnHM2_a0oy-01224-00274640-00275030 the idea of providing identification MLnHM2_a0oy-01225-00275031-00275263 as with a driver's license or passport MLnHM2_a0oy-01226-00275264-00275399 or whatever MLnHM2_a0oy-01227-00275400-00275663 should not apply because it is MLnHM2_a0oy-01228-00275664-00275879 discriminatory against people of limited MLnHM2_a0oy-01229-00275880-00276223 means and time who cannot so provide MLnHM2_a0oy-01230-00276224-00276543 do i have that correct in your case MLnHM2_a0oy-01231-00276544-00276695 well you should correct me if i'm MLnHM2_a0oy-01232-00276696-00276879 misunderstanding the question but i MLnHM2_a0oy-01233-00276880-00277134 think MLnHM2_a0oy-01234-00277135-00277367 voter id laws are not created equally MLnHM2_a0oy-01235-00277368-00277647 across the country some of them are in MLnHM2_a0oy-01236-00277648-00277855 fact discriminatory and have been found MLnHM2_a0oy-01237-00277856-00278143 to be discriminatory like the 2013 law MLnHM2_a0oy-01238-00278144-00278375 that i mentioned out of north carolina MLnHM2_a0oy-01239-00278376-00278575 like a law out of texas MLnHM2_a0oy-01240-00278576-00278782 that was challenged and the fifth MLnHM2_a0oy-01241-00278783-00278991 circuit found to be discriminatory and MLnHM2_a0oy-01242-00278992-00279247 the texas legislature amended the law as MLnHM2_a0oy-01243-00279248-00279455 a result MLnHM2_a0oy-01244-00279456-00279630 i see okay so you're opposed to those MLnHM2_a0oy-01245-00279631-00279887 particular voter id laws but not MLnHM2_a0oy-01246-00279888-00280151 necessarily is there a particular MLnHM2_a0oy-01247-00280152-00280455 voter right kind of a voter id law MLnHM2_a0oy-01248-00280456-00280719 requiring proof of identification that MLnHM2_a0oy-01249-00280720-00280927 you would accept and support MLnHM2_a0oy-01250-00280928-00281071 i think it really depends on the MLnHM2_a0oy-01251-00281072-00281303 circumstances of that law what the law MLnHM2_a0oy-01252-00281304-00281519 provides what it enables what the MLnHM2_a0oy-01253-00281520-00281830 communities in the state have access to MLnHM2_a0oy-01254-00281831-00282063 and that's not something that MLnHM2_a0oy-01255-00282064-00282230 one can answer in hypothetical MLnHM2_a0oy-01256-00282231-00282406 empirically is there any MLnHM2_a0oy-01257-00282407-00282647 voter id law in any state in any area MLnHM2_a0oy-01258-00282648-00282967 that you say is fine and empirically MLnHM2_a0oy-01259-00282968-00283151 is it any are any of them fine i would MLnHM2_a0oy-01260-00283152-00283295 have to take a look at the particular MLnHM2_a0oy-01261-00283296-00283495 laws all right uh can you comment on MLnHM2_a0oy-01262-00283496-00283791 that hands on uh MLnHM2_a0oy-01263-00283792-00284039 uh i'm not sure there's any voter id law MLnHM2_a0oy-01264-00284040-00284310 passing any state hasn't been attacked MLnHM2_a0oy-01265-00284311-00284463 by various groups claiming it's MLnHM2_a0oy-01266-00284464-00284663 discriminatory they MLnHM2_a0oy-01267-00284664-00284871 have in the past claimed every MLnHM2_a0oy-01268-00284872-00285087 voter id law is discriminatory what you MLnHM2_a0oy-01269-00285088-00285254 all don't know because if you read the MLnHM2_a0oy-01270-00285255-00285510 new york times you wouldn't realize this MLnHM2_a0oy-01271-00285511-00285806 but the overwhelming majority of MLnHM2_a0oy-01272-00285807-00286079 lawsuits filed against state id laws MLnHM2_a0oy-01273-00286080-00286223 have lost MLnHM2_a0oy-01274-00286224-00286534 okay there's been one or two wins MLnHM2_a0oy-01275-00286535-00286775 a handful of wins but the overwhelming MLnHM2_a0oy-01276-00286776-00287143 majority of them have lost because MLnHM2_a0oy-01277-00287144-00287399 when it came to actually showing that MLnHM2_a0oy-01278-00287400-00287623 there's somebody in the state that can't MLnHM2_a0oy-01279-00287624-00287815 comply with it MLnHM2_a0oy-01280-00287816-00287967 they've been unable to do that that was MLnHM2_a0oy-01281-00287968-00288215 certainly the case in the georgia MLnHM2_a0oy-01282-00288216-00288463 lawsuit that was the case in the indiana MLnHM2_a0oy-01283-00288464-00288758 lawsuit where the the judges noted MLnHM2_a0oy-01284-00288759-00289087 in their opinions you can go find this MLnHM2_a0oy-01285-00289088-00289254 that the planners couldn't produce MLnHM2_a0oy-01286-00289255-00289519 anyone who would uh be unable to vote MLnHM2_a0oy-01287-00289520-00289687 because the id requirement and if you MLnHM2_a0oy-01288-00289688-00290030 think that's discriminatory MLnHM2_a0oy-01289-00290031-00290175 then obviously MLnHM2_a0oy-01290-00290176-00290399 groups here need to be suing the state MLnHM2_a0oy-01291-00290400-00290575 of new york and the city of new york MLnHM2_a0oy-01292-00290576-00290782 because i before i came up here i MLnHM2_a0oy-01293-00290783-00290975 checked the websites MLnHM2_a0oy-01294-00290976-00291158 and if you want to get a marriage MLnHM2_a0oy-01295-00291159-00291487 license in new york state MLnHM2_a0oy-01296-00291488-00291775 you need to prove who you are with a MLnHM2_a0oy-01297-00291776-00292054 driver's license passport MLnHM2_a0oy-01298-00292055-00292303 employment picture id or an immigration MLnHM2_a0oy-01299-00292304-00292415 record MLnHM2_a0oy-01300-00292416-00292719 okay MLnHM2_a0oy-01301-00292720-00292879 that's the kind of id requirement what MLnHM2_a0oy-01302-00292880-00293095 you need there the new york office of MLnHM2_a0oy-01303-00293096-00293327 temporary and disability assistance they MLnHM2_a0oy-01304-00293328-00293558 have a question on the website says MLnHM2_a0oy-01305-00293559-00293895 what proof may i need to provide to get MLnHM2_a0oy-01306-00293896-00294103 public assistance MLnHM2_a0oy-01307-00294104-00294310 well in order to prove who you are they MLnHM2_a0oy-01308-00294311-00294599 have the list three things MLnHM2_a0oy-01309-00294600-00294951 a photo id a driver's license or a us MLnHM2_a0oy-01310-00294952-00295063 passport MLnHM2_a0oy-01311-00295064-00295279 so the idea that this is somehow a MLnHM2_a0oy-01312-00295280-00295375 problem MLnHM2_a0oy-01313-00295376-00295630 is just not the case and for any and in MLnHM2_a0oy-01314-00295631-00295751 fact MLnHM2_a0oy-01315-00295752-00296206 i i i will say this MLnHM2_a0oy-01316-00296207-00296487 i think it is patronizingly racist to MLnHM2_a0oy-01317-00296488-00296751 believe that minority voters cannot MLnHM2_a0oy-01318-00296752-00297039 obtain a free id and if you want to see MLnHM2_a0oy-01319-00297040-00297334 an extraordinary statement on this MLnHM2_a0oy-01320-00297335-00297591 look up the testimony of the lieutenant MLnHM2_a0oy-01321-00297592-00297958 governor of north carolina mark robinson MLnHM2_a0oy-01322-00297959-00298182 first african-american elected MLnHM2_a0oy-01323-00298183-00298334 lieutenant governor the state of north MLnHM2_a0oy-01324-00298335-00298551 carolina who testified in april before MLnHM2_a0oy-01325-00298552-00298654 the MLnHM2_a0oy-01326-00298655-00298895 house judiciary committee MLnHM2_a0oy-01327-00298896-00299271 and gave an extraordinary uh MLnHM2_a0oy-01328-00299272-00299606 testimony about this and saying MLnHM2_a0oy-01329-00299607-00299847 i'll just give you one quote from it the MLnHM2_a0oy-01330-00299848-00300063 notion that people must be protected MLnHM2_a0oy-01331-00300064-00300351 from a free id to secure their votes is MLnHM2_a0oy-01332-00300352-00300695 not just insane it is insulting MLnHM2_a0oy-01333-00300696-00300958 thank you hans uh okay uh audience MLnHM2_a0oy-01334-00300959-00301199 questions uh please no need to identify MLnHM2_a0oy-01335-00301200-00301406 yourself and please state your question MLnHM2_a0oy-01336-00301407-00301599 as a question and tell us to whom it's MLnHM2_a0oy-01337-00301600-00301695 addressed MLnHM2_a0oy-01338-00301696-00301934 take it away i have a factual question MLnHM2_a0oy-01339-00301935-00302175 uh for for either one of you MLnHM2_a0oy-01340-00302176-00302343 when they have mail-in ballots or MLnHM2_a0oy-01341-00302344-00302534 absentee ballots MLnHM2_a0oy-01342-00302535-00302679 i i vote MLnHM2_a0oy-01343-00302680-00303110 in person do they ever compare to see if MLnHM2_a0oy-01344-00303111-00303327 they're been double voting under the MLnHM2_a0oy-01345-00303328-00303479 same name MLnHM2_a0oy-01346-00303480-00303734 yes they do that's what e poll books are MLnHM2_a0oy-01347-00303735-00303999 in polling places and that will indicate MLnHM2_a0oy-01348-00304000-00304239 when somebody has already voted by mail MLnHM2_a0oy-01349-00304240-00304454 or has requested a mail ballot MLnHM2_a0oy-01350-00304455-00304663 on the polling book MLnHM2_a0oy-01351-00304664-00304951 so when you check in to vote in person MLnHM2_a0oy-01352-00304952-00305230 the polling the election workers will MLnHM2_a0oy-01353-00305231-00305543 know that and if they see that in many MLnHM2_a0oy-01354-00305544-00305719 states if they see that you have in fact MLnHM2_a0oy-01355-00305720-00305903 voted already by mail or you've MLnHM2_a0oy-01356-00305904-00306119 requested a mail ballot they will ask MLnHM2_a0oy-01357-00306120-00306310 you to vote provisionally which means MLnHM2_a0oy-01358-00306311-00306503 you get to submit a ballot but it won't MLnHM2_a0oy-01359-00306504-00306695 count if you've already voted MLnHM2_a0oy-01360-00306696-00306871 uh comment from you han MLnHM2_a0oy-01361-00306872-00307119 just just keep in mind the effectiveness MLnHM2_a0oy-01362-00307120-00307319 effectiveness of that MLnHM2_a0oy-01363-00307320-00307503 catching somebody who's trying to vote MLnHM2_a0oy-01364-00307504-00307639 twice like that MLnHM2_a0oy-01365-00307640-00307830 depends on the efficiency of election MLnHM2_a0oy-01366-00307831-00307951 officials MLnHM2_a0oy-01367-00307952-00308230 okay and in fact i think it was last MLnHM2_a0oy-01368-00308231-00308375 year MLnHM2_a0oy-01369-00308376-00308543 the secretary of state of georgia MLnHM2_a0oy-01370-00308544-00308734 actually forwarded the names of a MLnHM2_a0oy-01371-00308735-00308934 thousand individuals MLnHM2_a0oy-01372-00308935-00309134 to the attorney general's office there MLnHM2_a0oy-01373-00309135-00309334 because they discovered after the MLnHM2_a0oy-01374-00309335-00309503 election MLnHM2_a0oy-01375-00309504-00309639 that those individuals MLnHM2_a0oy-01376-00309640-00309854 had voted twice they had voted with an MLnHM2_a0oy-01377-00309855-00310047 absentee ballot in the primary election MLnHM2_a0oy-01378-00310048-00310239 not the general election they had voted MLnHM2_a0oy-01379-00310240-00310567 twice um in person and with the absentee MLnHM2_a0oy-01380-00310568-00310775 ballot and the only way that could have MLnHM2_a0oy-01381-00310776-00310910 happened was because the election MLnHM2_a0oy-01382-00310911-00311182 officials in the polling place MLnHM2_a0oy-01383-00311183-00311391 didn't catch the fact that an absentee MLnHM2_a0oy-01384-00311392-00311591 ballot had already been submitted MLnHM2_a0oy-01385-00311592-00311799 next question MLnHM2_a0oy-01386-00311800-00311999 i grew up partly in europe and i'm MLnHM2_a0oy-01387-00312000-00312223 struck by the fact that MLnHM2_a0oy-01388-00312224-00312479 there are 47 countries in europe MLnHM2_a0oy-01389-00312480-00312687 and as of this month every single one MLnHM2_a0oy-01390-00312688-00312943 requires an id at the polls i'm just MLnHM2_a0oy-01391-00312944-00313079 wondering why MLnHM2_a0oy-01392-00313080-00313287 and i also note that in canada in two MLnHM2_a0oy-01393-00313288-00313399 weeks they're all going to vote MLnHM2_a0oy-01394-00313400-00313543 nationally MLnHM2_a0oy-01395-00313544-00313823 and even if you file a mail-in ballot or MLnHM2_a0oy-01396-00313824-00313975 you vote anywhere in canada you're going MLnHM2_a0oy-01397-00313976-00314151 to have to prove your identity is that a MLnHM2_a0oy-01398-00314152-00314382 question and canada well i'm just asking MLnHM2_a0oy-01399-00314383-00314582 since canada is MLnHM2_a0oy-01400-00314583-00314734 ranking much higher than the united MLnHM2_a0oy-01401-00314735-00315047 states by the u.n human rights records MLnHM2_a0oy-01402-00315048-00315247 why in the world are the canadians so MLnHM2_a0oy-01403-00315248-00315423 obnoxious about MLnHM2_a0oy-01404-00315424-00315599 these issues of voting who is that MLnHM2_a0oy-01405-00315600-00315943 question addressed mr fund to both okay MLnHM2_a0oy-01406-00315944-00316134 either of you want to take it MLnHM2_a0oy-01407-00316135-00316399 well i also point out that MLnHM2_a0oy-01408-00316400-00316558 mexico MLnHM2_a0oy-01409-00316559-00316854 which is a country with a much greater MLnHM2_a0oy-01410-00316855-00316943 uh MLnHM2_a0oy-01411-00316944-00317134 rate of poverty than we do actually i MLnHM2_a0oy-01412-00317135-00317319 think in the 1990s MLnHM2_a0oy-01413-00317320-00317551 put in a requirement for people to have MLnHM2_a0oy-01414-00317552-00317791 a photo id when they go vote and a lot MLnHM2_a0oy-01415-00317792-00318023 of people credit MLnHM2_a0oy-01416-00318024-00318382 their implementation of that id uh with MLnHM2_a0oy-01417-00318383-00318591 the fact that the opposition party won MLnHM2_a0oy-01418-00318592-00318823 for the first time in decades MLnHM2_a0oy-01419-00318824-00319039 uh and MLnHM2_a0oy-01420-00319040-00319254 we we are just kind of an outlier in the MLnHM2_a0oy-01421-00319255-00319471 fact that we don't require id and i will MLnHM2_a0oy-01422-00319472-00319671 just tell you one one quick story if i MLnHM2_a0oy-01423-00319672-00319782 may about this MLnHM2_a0oy-01424-00319783-00320103 every election you all probably know the MLnHM2_a0oy-01425-00320104-00320199 um MLnHM2_a0oy-01426-00320200-00320279 uh MLnHM2_a0oy-01427-00320280-00320503 european union sends election observers MLnHM2_a0oy-01428-00320504-00320663 actually to the united states MLnHM2_a0oy-01429-00320664-00320871 to observe our elections and for the MLnHM2_a0oy-01430-00320872-00321071 past MLnHM2_a0oy-01431-00321072-00321295 oh more than a decade i've been one of MLnHM2_a0oy-01432-00321296-00321551 the individuals asked to brief MLnHM2_a0oy-01433-00321552-00321806 um the observers on how the election MLnHM2_a0oy-01434-00321807-00321982 process works in the u.s et cetera and MLnHM2_a0oy-01435-00321983-00322215 i'm usually on a panel MLnHM2_a0oy-01436-00322216-00322334 with folks MLnHM2_a0oy-01437-00322335-00322591 like from the asu aclu and others who MLnHM2_a0oy-01438-00322592-00322830 are sitting there talking about MLnHM2_a0oy-01439-00322831-00323134 voter id and how terrible it is and the MLnHM2_a0oy-01440-00323135-00323343 reaction of the observers is always like MLnHM2_a0oy-01441-00323344-00323543 they don't really understand why that's MLnHM2_a0oy-01442-00323544-00323751 an issue because in every single one of MLnHM2_a0oy-01443-00323752-00323958 their countries they have to show an id MLnHM2_a0oy-01444-00323959-00324071 to vote MLnHM2_a0oy-01445-00324072-00324375 comment from you uh elijah yes well MLnHM2_a0oy-01446-00324376-00324495 certainly i'm not going to comment on MLnHM2_a0oy-01447-00324496-00324799 the character of canadians um but MLnHM2_a0oy-01448-00324800-00325054 but one thing i will note again MLnHM2_a0oy-01449-00325055-00325310 is that voter id has not been shown to MLnHM2_a0oy-01450-00325311-00325687 be correlated with preventing fraud or MLnHM2_a0oy-01451-00325688-00325887 the lack of voter id requirements has MLnHM2_a0oy-01452-00325888-00326071 not been correlated MLnHM2_a0oy-01453-00326072-00326334 or shown to have any relationship to the MLnHM2_a0oy-01454-00326335-00326630 existence or presence of fraud and we MLnHM2_a0oy-01455-00326631-00326782 live in a country where we don't MLnHM2_a0oy-01456-00326783-00327063 automatically provide national id's to MLnHM2_a0oy-01457-00327064-00327287 people so there is a big difference in MLnHM2_a0oy-01458-00327288-00327463 terms of the international context that MLnHM2_a0oy-01459-00327464-00327599 we're operating MLnHM2_a0oy-01460-00327600-00327847 and i think given those things you have MLnHM2_a0oy-01461-00327848-00328127 to wonder why are states trying to put MLnHM2_a0oy-01462-00328128-00328430 voter id laws in place if we don't have MLnHM2_a0oy-01463-00328431-00328615 data showing that it's helping our MLnHM2_a0oy-01464-00328616-00328854 election integrity and people have to go MLnHM2_a0oy-01465-00328855-00329071 out and affirmatively get id MLnHM2_a0oy-01466-00329072-00329358 and in another example of uh somebody MLnHM2_a0oy-01467-00329359-00329639 saying the quiet part out loud and MLnHM2_a0oy-01468-00329640-00329887 this is you know back in 2011 MLnHM2_a0oy-01469-00329888-00330063 pennsylvania's then republican house MLnHM2_a0oy-01470-00330064-00330303 leader um said that the state's new id MLnHM2_a0oy-01471-00330304-00330503 law which was in fact struck down by the MLnHM2_a0oy-01472-00330504-00330727 pennsylvania supreme court was going to MLnHM2_a0oy-01473-00330728-00330919 quote allow governor romney to win the MLnHM2_a0oy-01474-00330920-00331110 state of pennsylvania so these are MLnHM2_a0oy-01475-00331111-00331295 provisions that are being put in place MLnHM2_a0oy-01476-00331296-00331519 specifically to make it harder to vote MLnHM2_a0oy-01477-00331520-00331687 without the data to show that they MLnHM2_a0oy-01478-00331688-00331967 actually improve our elections MLnHM2_a0oy-01479-00331968-00332295 um maybe you'll respond i see hans MLnHM2_a0oy-01480-00332296-00332406 shaking his head so i'll give him a MLnHM2_a0oy-01481-00332407-00332623 chance to shake his head verbally and MLnHM2_a0oy-01482-00332624-00332847 then you can respond go ahead yes MLnHM2_a0oy-01483-00332848-00332967 uh MLnHM2_a0oy-01484-00332968-00333230 i wrote a paper ten years ago i'd urge MLnHM2_a0oy-01485-00333231-00333478 you all to read it it's called stolen MLnHM2_a0oy-01486-00333479-00333710 identities stolen votes a case study and MLnHM2_a0oy-01487-00333711-00333871 voter impersonation do you all remember MLnHM2_a0oy-01488-00333872-00334039 elizabeth holtzman MLnHM2_a0oy-01489-00334040-00334239 former democratic congresswoman right MLnHM2_a0oy-01490-00334240-00334399 and she became the district attorney in MLnHM2_a0oy-01491-00334400-00334758 kings county when she came back right MLnHM2_a0oy-01492-00334759-00335110 in the mid-1980s she convened a state MLnHM2_a0oy-01493-00335111-00335375 grand jury and she released the report MLnHM2_a0oy-01494-00335376-00335510 of the grand jury MLnHM2_a0oy-01495-00335511-00335703 most of you know grandeur usually MLnHM2_a0oy-01496-00335704-00335854 operate in secret so it was MLnHM2_a0oy-01497-00335855-00336039 extraordinary that she released this MLnHM2_a0oy-01498-00336040-00336158 public MLnHM2_a0oy-01499-00336159-00336310 report of the grand jury let me tell you MLnHM2_a0oy-01500-00336311-00336551 what the grand jury found in kings MLnHM2_a0oy-01501-00336552-00336710 county brooklyn MLnHM2_a0oy-01502-00336711-00337110 she found that for 14 years MLnHM2_a0oy-01503-00337111-00337382 a voter fraud conspiracy had occurred in MLnHM2_a0oy-01504-00337383-00337599 kings county MLnHM2_a0oy-01505-00337600-00337895 successfully without detection MLnHM2_a0oy-01506-00337896-00338239 in which MLnHM2_a0oy-01507-00338240-00338471 the practices included the forgery of MLnHM2_a0oy-01508-00338472-00338703 voter registration cards with the names MLnHM2_a0oy-01509-00338704-00338943 of fictitious persons the filing of MLnHM2_a0oy-01510-00338944-00339191 those cards with the board of elections MLnHM2_a0oy-01511-00339192-00339399 the recruitment of people to cast MLnHM2_a0oy-01512-00339400-00339695 multiple votes on behalf of specified MLnHM2_a0oy-01513-00339696-00340047 candidates using those forged names as MLnHM2_a0oy-01514-00340048-00340199 well as MLnHM2_a0oy-01515-00340200-00340478 the registrations of deceased MLnHM2_a0oy-01516-00340479-00340678 and other persons and your point hands MLnHM2_a0oy-01517-00340679-00340863 is that as that voter id could have MLnHM2_a0oy-01518-00340864-00340967 dealt with that is that what you're MLnHM2_a0oy-01519-00340968-00341175 saying the grand jury recommended at the MLnHM2_a0oy-01520-00341176-00341439 end of it that the state should MLnHM2_a0oy-01521-00341440-00341663 consider putting in an id requirement MLnHM2_a0oy-01522-00341664-00341839 because that could have potentially MLnHM2_a0oy-01523-00341840-00341982 prevented i'm sure you've read that MLnHM2_a0oy-01524-00341983-00342206 paper eliza and i'm sure you know what MLnHM2_a0oy-01525-00342207-00342423 the problem is with it could you tell us MLnHM2_a0oy-01526-00342424-00342599 yeah MLnHM2_a0oy-01527-00342600-00342727 i i MLnHM2_a0oy-01528-00342728-00342934 can see that i have not read the paper MLnHM2_a0oy-01529-00342935-00343063 recently MLnHM2_a0oy-01530-00343064-00343295 but again i would say that the data is MLnHM2_a0oy-01531-00343296-00343495 not there to back up the efficacy of MLnHM2_a0oy-01532-00343496-00343734 voter id with respect to voter fraud the MLnHM2_a0oy-01533-00343735-00343927 data is there to show that these MLnHM2_a0oy-01534-00343928-00344230 instances are extraordinarily rare MLnHM2_a0oy-01535-00344231-00344478 and again i i would urge you to do a MLnHM2_a0oy-01536-00344479-00344671 cost-benefit analysis MLnHM2_a0oy-01537-00344672-00344958 of the costs and burdens on voters when MLnHM2_a0oy-01538-00344959-00345215 you impose restrictions and the benefit MLnHM2_a0oy-01539-00345216-00345447 that you get out of them MLnHM2_a0oy-01540-00345448-00345663 and i also want to make sure folks are MLnHM2_a0oy-01541-00345664-00345847 thinking not just about voter id that's MLnHM2_a0oy-01542-00345848-00346006 not the only kind of restriction that MLnHM2_a0oy-01543-00346007-00346199 states are putting in place this year MLnHM2_a0oy-01544-00346200-00346430 once again they are making it harder to MLnHM2_a0oy-01545-00346431-00346654 vote by mail making harder to drop off MLnHM2_a0oy-01546-00346655-00346927 your mail ballot shortening early voting MLnHM2_a0oy-01547-00346928-00347182 periods making it harder to throw out MLnHM2_a0oy-01548-00347183-00347447 intimidating poll watchers from from a MLnHM2_a0oy-01549-00347448-00347582 polling place MLnHM2_a0oy-01550-00347583-00347847 there is a wide range of restrictions MLnHM2_a0oy-01551-00347848-00348071 that states are enacting this year and MLnHM2_a0oy-01552-00348072-00348287 it's quite clear what the overall trend MLnHM2_a0oy-01553-00348288-00348430 shows MLnHM2_a0oy-01554-00348431-00348678 uh next question MLnHM2_a0oy-01555-00348679-00348806 i got something i've been wondering MLnHM2_a0oy-01556-00348807-00349158 about that maybe you can help me with MLnHM2_a0oy-01557-00349159-00349343 either or both of you there's a large MLnHM2_a0oy-01558-00349344-00349519 number of people in this country quite MLnHM2_a0oy-01559-00349520-00349703 remarkably large like in the millions MLnHM2_a0oy-01560-00349704-00349927 who are completely mentally incapable of MLnHM2_a0oy-01561-00349928-00350119 voting and i'm talking about people with MLnHM2_a0oy-01562-00350120-00350254 alzheimer's MLnHM2_a0oy-01563-00350255-00350447 and people with what's called MLnHM2_a0oy-01564-00350448-00350630 developmental disabilities used to be MLnHM2_a0oy-01565-00350631-00350878 called mentally but put the two MLnHM2_a0oy-01566-00350879-00351006 of them together it's in the millions MLnHM2_a0oy-01567-00351007-00351215 first of all as far as i know they're MLnHM2_a0oy-01568-00351216-00351399 entitled to vote if they're over 21 MLnHM2_a0oy-01569-00351400-00351671 maybe you can uh answer that for me and MLnHM2_a0oy-01570-00351672-00351871 and my second question is MLnHM2_a0oy-01571-00351872-00352110 if you if you take like the people with MLnHM2_a0oy-01572-00352111-00352327 alzheimer's or tend to be in nursing MLnHM2_a0oy-01573-00352328-00352582 homes and they're probably registered to MLnHM2_a0oy-01574-00352583-00352782 vote because they were once capable of MLnHM2_a0oy-01575-00352783-00352999 voting what's to keep the person who MLnHM2_a0oy-01576-00353000-00353199 runs the nursing home or their their MLnHM2_a0oy-01577-00353200-00353358 friendly MLnHM2_a0oy-01578-00353359-00353558 political operative from rounding up MLnHM2_a0oy-01579-00353559-00353703 ballots from all those people filling MLnHM2_a0oy-01580-00353704-00353919 them out having them sign up dropping MLnHM2_a0oy-01581-00353920-00354054 dropping them back off is there any MLnHM2_a0oy-01582-00354055-00354310 control on that whatsoever MLnHM2_a0oy-01583-00354311-00354575 you get to i'm sorry go ahead look MLnHM2_a0oy-01584-00354576-00354815 unless a court declares you legally MLnHM2_a0oy-01585-00354816-00355063 incompetent you have a right to vote MLnHM2_a0oy-01586-00355064-00355151 but MLnHM2_a0oy-01587-00355152-00355343 um MLnHM2_a0oy-01588-00355344-00355567 the an example of someone trying to take MLnHM2_a0oy-01589-00355568-00355999 advantage of this is that last summer MLnHM2_a0oy-01590-00356000-00356423 a woman who works in a state supported MLnHM2_a0oy-01591-00356424-00356639 home for the developmentally challenged MLnHM2_a0oy-01592-00356640-00356823 in texas MLnHM2_a0oy-01593-00356824-00357039 was indicted MLnHM2_a0oy-01594-00357040-00357247 because the individuals who were there MLnHM2_a0oy-01595-00357248-00357406 were had all been declared legally MLnHM2_a0oy-01596-00357407-00357543 incompetent that's why they were in this MLnHM2_a0oy-01597-00357544-00357639 particular MLnHM2_a0oy-01598-00357640-00357847 this particular home she was indicted MLnHM2_a0oy-01599-00357848-00358047 because she was filling out and MLnHM2_a0oy-01600-00358048-00358303 completing voter registration forms for MLnHM2_a0oy-01601-00358304-00358471 all of them i i think the number was MLnHM2_a0oy-01602-00358472-00358719 like 140 of them that she had submitted MLnHM2_a0oy-01603-00358720-00358958 basically filling it out signing MLnHM2_a0oy-01604-00358959-00359110 their names MLnHM2_a0oy-01605-00359111-00359375 and it clearly she was she was going to MLnHM2_a0oy-01606-00359376-00359599 then uh request absentee ballots and MLnHM2_a0oy-01607-00359600-00359806 vote them in their case the problem in MLnHM2_a0oy-01608-00359807-00360054 nursing homes is an acute problem MLnHM2_a0oy-01609-00360055-00360239 that's that's MLnHM2_a0oy-01610-00360240-00360487 you may not recall this but there was a MLnHM2_a0oy-01611-00360488-00360767 congressman from pennsylvania who about MLnHM2_a0oy-01612-00360768-00360958 20 years ago was in fact MLnHM2_a0oy-01613-00360959-00361167 criminally charged for doing exactly MLnHM2_a0oy-01614-00361168-00361510 that going into nursing homes to MLnHM2_a0oy-01615-00361511-00361734 obtain uh obtain and vote absentee MLnHM2_a0oy-01616-00361735-00361927 ballots from individuals there but MLnHM2_a0oy-01617-00361928-00362071 you're not opposed to people with MLnHM2_a0oy-01618-00362072-00362230 alzheimer's voting as long as they're MLnHM2_a0oy-01619-00362231-00362406 ideas if they are unless they've been MLnHM2_a0oy-01620-00362407-00362615 declared legally incompetent they have a MLnHM2_a0oy-01621-00362616-00362791 right to vote what needs to happen MLnHM2_a0oy-01622-00362792-00362982 though is MLnHM2_a0oy-01623-00362983-00363247 local election officials and the local MLnHM2_a0oy-01624-00363248-00363399 parties MLnHM2_a0oy-01625-00363400-00363727 need to do a better job of for example MLnHM2_a0oy-01626-00363728-00364023 example what ought to happen is MLnHM2_a0oy-01627-00364024-00364239 they ought to set up MLnHM2_a0oy-01628-00364240-00364463 a polling day like an early voting day MLnHM2_a0oy-01629-00364464-00364615 in a nursing home MLnHM2_a0oy-01630-00364616-00364767 where people will be able to vote there MLnHM2_a0oy-01631-00364768-00364951 will be election officials there to MLnHM2_a0oy-01632-00364952-00365223 supervise it and there'll be observers MLnHM2_a0oy-01633-00365224-00365310 there MLnHM2_a0oy-01634-00365311-00365478 from the democratic party republican MLnHM2_a0oy-01635-00365479-00365671 party libertarian party green party to MLnHM2_a0oy-01636-00365672-00366030 make sure that the it's the residents by MLnHM2_a0oy-01637-00366031-00366158 themselves MLnHM2_a0oy-01638-00366159-00366375 making the the decision on who to vote MLnHM2_a0oy-01639-00366376-00366575 for and you don't have staff and other MLnHM2_a0oy-01640-00366576-00366806 people basically filling out the ballot MLnHM2_a0oy-01641-00366807-00367015 and signing their name and submitting it MLnHM2_a0oy-01642-00367016-00367206 but you need better supervision of the MLnHM2_a0oy-01643-00367207-00367406 any comments of your lives are better MLnHM2_a0oy-01644-00367407-00367654 yeah i mean i think the um the the MLnHM2_a0oy-01645-00367655-00367854 answer to your question is in what hans MLnHM2_a0oy-01646-00367855-00368039 just described which is that woman was MLnHM2_a0oy-01647-00368040-00368327 indicted in texas and what what you're MLnHM2_a0oy-01648-00368328-00368551 what the anecdote reveals is that there MLnHM2_a0oy-01649-00368552-00368782 was fraud being committed against MLnHM2_a0oy-01650-00368783-00369054 americans not fraud being committed by MLnHM2_a0oy-01651-00369055-00369263 the voters themselves MLnHM2_a0oy-01652-00369264-00369454 there are criminal prohibitions against MLnHM2_a0oy-01653-00369455-00369654 that kind of misconduct they are working MLnHM2_a0oy-01654-00369655-00369806 they are resulting in criminal MLnHM2_a0oy-01655-00369807-00369982 prosecutions MLnHM2_a0oy-01656-00369983-00370175 the kinds of restrictions that we are MLnHM2_a0oy-01657-00370176-00370375 seeing enacted this year banning MLnHM2_a0oy-01658-00370376-00370630 curbside voting shortening early voting MLnHM2_a0oy-01659-00370631-00370878 periods those kinds of restrictions MLnHM2_a0oy-01660-00370879-00371110 don't solve that problem they just make MLnHM2_a0oy-01661-00371111-00371319 it harder for eligible americans to cast MLnHM2_a0oy-01662-00371320-00371582 their ballots in a convenient method MLnHM2_a0oy-01663-00371583-00371958 next question MLnHM2_a0oy-01664-00371959-00372054 for those MLnHM2_a0oy-01665-00372055-00372327 laws that have either been uh presented MLnHM2_a0oy-01666-00372328-00372678 or passed since the 2020 election um do MLnHM2_a0oy-01667-00372679-00372999 you have the breakdown on the states um MLnHM2_a0oy-01668-00373000-00373151 where i guess the sponsors of those MLnHM2_a0oy-01669-00373152-00373327 bills whether you know which side of the MLnHM2_a0oy-01670-00373328-00373575 aisle they fell on MLnHM2_a0oy-01671-00373576-00373671 the MLnHM2_a0oy-01672-00373672-00373958 laws that are being enacted to that the MLnHM2_a0oy-01673-00373959-00374167 brandon center characterizes as making MLnHM2_a0oy-01674-00374168-00374399 it harder for americans to vote are MLnHM2_a0oy-01675-00374400-00374575 being enacted are being introduced MLnHM2_a0oy-01676-00374576-00374895 predominantly by republican sponsors and MLnHM2_a0oy-01677-00374896-00375134 are be and are being enacted in large MLnHM2_a0oy-01678-00375135-00375223 part MLnHM2_a0oy-01679-00375224-00375527 virtually on party lines comment uh bad MLnHM2_a0oy-01680-00375528-00375678 hand hands MLnHM2_a0oy-01681-00375679-00376087 no comment next question MLnHM2_a0oy-01682-00376088-00376375 hello my name is chloe um i have two MLnHM2_a0oy-01683-00376376-00376630 questions but i only asked one um my MLnHM2_a0oy-01684-00376631-00376847 question is for the gentleman so i read MLnHM2_a0oy-01685-00376848-00377063 the supreme court decision MLnHM2_a0oy-01686-00377064-00377239 regarding arizona MLnHM2_a0oy-01687-00377240-00377487 and the minority opinion specifically MLnHM2_a0oy-01688-00377488-00377751 brought up the issue of native american MLnHM2_a0oy-01689-00377752-00377991 communities having a precedent with MLnHM2_a0oy-01690-00377992-00378295 having a member of their tribe deliver MLnHM2_a0oy-01691-00378296-00378599 mail-in ballots to officials and that is MLnHM2_a0oy-01692-00378600-00378887 no longer allowed in arizona MLnHM2_a0oy-01693-00378888-00379039 and i'm just wondering if you had any MLnHM2_a0oy-01694-00379040-00379223 thoughts on that because you brought up MLnHM2_a0oy-01695-00379224-00379519 the potential fraud with third party MLnHM2_a0oy-01696-00379520-00379727 third parties collecting votes MLnHM2_a0oy-01697-00379728-00379895 but there is no evidence of fraud MLnHM2_a0oy-01698-00379896-00380167 happening particularly in this community MLnHM2_a0oy-01699-00380168-00380391 and there's also precedent for this MLnHM2_a0oy-01700-00380392-00380654 community being allowed to MLnHM2_a0oy-01701-00380655-00380823 do this kind of MLnHM2_a0oy-01702-00380824-00380982 delivery of voting just because of the MLnHM2_a0oy-01703-00380983-00381175 way their communities are set up so just MLnHM2_a0oy-01704-00381176-00381471 curious to know your thoughts MLnHM2_a0oy-01705-00381472-00381599 just so you all know what we're talking MLnHM2_a0oy-01706-00381600-00381839 about the the arizona case was called MLnHM2_a0oy-01707-00381840-00382134 bronovich versus dnc MLnHM2_a0oy-01708-00382135-00382302 and the issue in that case there were MLnHM2_a0oy-01709-00382303-00382551 two issues MLnHM2_a0oy-01710-00382552-00382847 one is uh the state like more than half MLnHM2_a0oy-01711-00382848-00383127 of the states across the country ban MLnHM2_a0oy-01712-00383128-00383327 what i call vote trafficking third MLnHM2_a0oy-01713-00383328-00383502 unrelated third parties being able to MLnHM2_a0oy-01714-00383503-00383678 pick up and deliver ballots because of MLnHM2_a0oy-01715-00383679-00383927 the potential danger from that MLnHM2_a0oy-01716-00383928-00384158 california actually for a long time MLnHM2_a0oy-01717-00384159-00384310 banned it they only legalized it a MLnHM2_a0oy-01718-00384311-00384510 couple of years ago MLnHM2_a0oy-01719-00384511-00384823 the second issue in arizona MLnHM2_a0oy-01720-00384824-00385071 was the fact that for decades they've MLnHM2_a0oy-01721-00385072-00385278 had the same rule that is the rule in MLnHM2_a0oy-01722-00385279-00385527 almost every other state which is you MLnHM2_a0oy-01723-00385528-00385687 have to vote in the precinct to which MLnHM2_a0oy-01724-00385688-00385878 you're assigned MLnHM2_a0oy-01725-00385879-00386063 okay there's two important reasons for MLnHM2_a0oy-01726-00386064-00386158 that MLnHM2_a0oy-01727-00386159-00386278 one MLnHM2_a0oy-01728-00386279-00386430 if you don't vote if you vote in your MLnHM2_a0oy-01729-00386431-00386558 precinct they're going to be able to MLnHM2_a0oy-01730-00386559-00386663 vote for MLnHM2_a0oy-01731-00386664-00386806 all the offices for which you're MLnHM2_a0oy-01732-00386807-00387119 qualified not just president and MLnHM2_a0oy-01733-00387120-00387382 and u.s senator but local city council MLnHM2_a0oy-01734-00387383-00387527 and county commission raises state MLnHM2_a0oy-01735-00387528-00387695 legislative races MLnHM2_a0oy-01736-00387696-00387910 if the state says well you can go vote MLnHM2_a0oy-01737-00387911-00388134 anywhere then you may end up in a MLnHM2_a0oy-01738-00388135-00388287 precinct where MLnHM2_a0oy-01739-00388288-00388447 you may be able to vote for the top of MLnHM2_a0oy-01740-00388448-00388630 the ticket but you can't vote for all MLnHM2_a0oy-01741-00388631-00388839 the rest so in effect MLnHM2_a0oy-01742-00388840-00388954 you're get you're going to be MLnHM2_a0oy-01743-00388955-00389134 disenfranchising folks MLnHM2_a0oy-01744-00389135-00389254 are you specifically addressing the MLnHM2_a0oy-01745-00389255-00389454 young ladies and on the on the vote MLnHM2_a0oy-01746-00389455-00389678 harvesting thing MLnHM2_a0oy-01747-00389679-00389943 one of the reasons the court said MLnHM2_a0oy-01748-00389944-00390206 the state can do this is because MLnHM2_a0oy-01749-00390207-00390399 arizona actually has one of the most MLnHM2_a0oy-01750-00390400-00390575 expansive MLnHM2_a0oy-01751-00390576-00390847 ways to vote there they have long period MLnHM2_a0oy-01752-00390848-00391023 of early voting MLnHM2_a0oy-01753-00391024-00391215 they have a long period of absentee MLnHM2_a0oy-01754-00391216-00391575 balloting and this one restriction MLnHM2_a0oy-01755-00391576-00391782 in fact the dnc was able unable to MLnHM2_a0oy-01756-00391783-00392039 produce any evidence MLnHM2_a0oy-01757-00392040-00392206 that it was going to keep anyone from MLnHM2_a0oy-01758-00392207-00392375 being able to vote MLnHM2_a0oy-01759-00392376-00392639 right uh congratulations yeah i think MLnHM2_a0oy-01760-00392640-00392751 that MLnHM2_a0oy-01761-00392752-00393078 particularly that example reflects um MLnHM2_a0oy-01762-00393079-00393254 what we see all over the country was MLnHM2_a0oy-01763-00393255-00393423 which is that voting restrictions can MLnHM2_a0oy-01764-00393424-00393615 burden certain communities more than MLnHM2_a0oy-01765-00393616-00393815 others and that's why it's so important MLnHM2_a0oy-01766-00393816-00394039 to look beyond the top line voter MLnHM2_a0oy-01767-00394040-00394302 turnout numbers and see who is affected MLnHM2_a0oy-01768-00394303-00394567 by these kinds of laws this arizona case MLnHM2_a0oy-01769-00394568-00394799 the brnovich decision is the one in MLnHM2_a0oy-01770-00394800-00394887 which MLnHM2_a0oy-01771-00394888-00395182 the arizona state republican party MLnHM2_a0oy-01772-00395183-00395430 lawyer said the reason why we need these MLnHM2_a0oy-01773-00395431-00395599 laws on the books is because we want to MLnHM2_a0oy-01774-00395600-00395823 win elections that there was really a MLnHM2_a0oy-01775-00395824-00395991 partisan interest MLnHM2_a0oy-01776-00395992-00396143 that this had nothing to do with MLnHM2_a0oy-01777-00396144-00396415 election integrity um but and i should MLnHM2_a0oy-01778-00396416-00396606 note that with respect to out of MLnHM2_a0oy-01779-00396607-00396887 precinct voting many states do allow you MLnHM2_a0oy-01780-00396888-00397127 to vote out of precinct but they only MLnHM2_a0oy-01781-00397128-00397334 allow you to vote a provisional ballot MLnHM2_a0oy-01782-00397335-00397606 and you only get to vote your votes only MLnHM2_a0oy-01783-00397607-00397782 count for the races for which you're MLnHM2_a0oy-01784-00397783-00397975 qualified so only for senate and MLnHM2_a0oy-01785-00397976-00398206 president not for city council if you're MLnHM2_a0oy-01786-00398207-00398391 in the wrong place MLnHM2_a0oy-01787-00398392-00398551 next question MLnHM2_a0oy-01788-00398552-00398734 thank you um first i'd just like to say MLnHM2_a0oy-01789-00398735-00398839 i couldn't agree with you more on the MLnHM2_a0oy-01790-00398840-00398967 importance of civil debate and i'd like MLnHM2_a0oy-01791-00398968-00399110 to thank you both for being here in that MLnHM2_a0oy-01792-00399111-00399351 spirit uh to take us back to the MLnHM2_a0oy-01793-00399352-00399630 resolution which is um that legislators MLnHM2_a0oy-01794-00399631-00399999 are actively working to suppress voter MLnHM2_a0oy-01795-00400000-00400334 uh suppressed voters um i'd like to my MLnHM2_a0oy-01796-00400335-00400463 question is for the gentleman i was MLnHM2_a0oy-01797-00400464-00400695 hoping that he could address directly MLnHM2_a0oy-01798-00400696-00400799 the MLnHM2_a0oy-01799-00400800-00400927 other MLnHM2_a0oy-01800-00400928-00401102 voter restrictions that the that the MLnHM2_a0oy-01801-00401103-00401430 lady mentioned um not including voter id MLnHM2_a0oy-01802-00401431-00401623 which i think we've covered pretty MLnHM2_a0oy-01803-00401624-00401902 thoroughly uh specifically fewer ballot MLnHM2_a0oy-01804-00401903-00402206 boxes fewer drop-offs uh drive-in voting MLnHM2_a0oy-01805-00402207-00402478 uh cut cutting down on early voting days MLnHM2_a0oy-01806-00402479-00402782 um and a how those are not making it MLnHM2_a0oy-01807-00402783-00402975 harder to vote and b even if they're not MLnHM2_a0oy-01808-00402976-00403119 making harder to vote in what way are MLnHM2_a0oy-01809-00403120-00403239 they justified MLnHM2_a0oy-01810-00403240-00403623 sure um what texas did is they actually MLnHM2_a0oy-01811-00403624-00403734 said MLnHM2_a0oy-01812-00403735-00403919 uh MLnHM2_a0oy-01813-00403920-00404127 curbside voting can only be used by MLnHM2_a0oy-01814-00404128-00404375 somebody who is disabled and can't make MLnHM2_a0oy-01815-00404376-00404551 it into a polling place MLnHM2_a0oy-01816-00404552-00404854 okay and that's the rule in the vast MLnHM2_a0oy-01817-00404855-00405110 majority of states so i don't think it's MLnHM2_a0oy-01818-00405111-00405367 somehow keeping people from voting MLnHM2_a0oy-01819-00405368-00405639 uh if you ban curbside voting for anyone MLnHM2_a0oy-01820-00405640-00405758 unless they're disabled if you're MLnHM2_a0oy-01821-00405759-00405895 disabled MLnHM2_a0oy-01822-00405896-00406095 you can drive up in your car the MLnHM2_a0oy-01823-00406096-00406254 election official will come out that's MLnHM2_a0oy-01824-00406255-00406575 the standard rule in in in many states MLnHM2_a0oy-01825-00406576-00406791 um so i don't think it's a problem given MLnHM2_a0oy-01826-00406792-00407063 the fact that if you're MLnHM2_a0oy-01827-00407064-00407206 able to get into a polling place MLnHM2_a0oy-01828-00407207-00407430 particularly early voting day with early MLnHM2_a0oy-01829-00407431-00407615 voting analytic on election day i don't MLnHM2_a0oy-01830-00407616-00407751 think that's a problem MLnHM2_a0oy-01831-00407752-00407967 look the problem with dropboxes is what MLnHM2_a0oy-01832-00407968-00408102 what they have said is they're going to MLnHM2_a0oy-01833-00408103-00408375 have a if you're going to have a dropbox MLnHM2_a0oy-01834-00408376-00408710 it's got to be a dropbox that is secured MLnHM2_a0oy-01835-00408711-00408895 under surveillance MLnHM2_a0oy-01836-00408896-00409102 it can't just be a drop box out on the MLnHM2_a0oy-01837-00409103-00409343 street that anyone can access here's the MLnHM2_a0oy-01838-00409344-00409534 way to look at that MLnHM2_a0oy-01839-00409535-00409855 okay MLnHM2_a0oy-01840-00409856-00410078 does anybody in here think it would be a MLnHM2_a0oy-01841-00410079-00410282 good idea MLnHM2_a0oy-01842-00410283-00410599 if uh what you go and you vote in a MLnHM2_a0oy-01843-00410600-00410910 precinct uh you drop your paper ballot MLnHM2_a0oy-01844-00410912-00411118 into the ballot box you leave MLnHM2_a0oy-01845-00411119-00411263 at the end of the day MLnHM2_a0oy-01846-00411264-00411463 what states uh what what happens in MLnHM2_a0oy-01847-00411464-00411718 states that use paper ballots like that MLnHM2_a0oy-01848-00411719-00411847 is MLnHM2_a0oy-01849-00411847-00412030 the election official MLnHM2_a0oy-01850-00412031-00412303 seals the box MLnHM2_a0oy-01851-00412304-00412526 he puts it in his car with the assistant MLnHM2_a0oy-01852-00412527-00412830 manager and they drive the box of sealed MLnHM2_a0oy-01853-00412831-00413118 ballots downtown to the election MLnHM2_a0oy-01854-00413119-00413255 headquarters MLnHM2_a0oy-01855-00413256-00413526 where it's then opened and counted MLnHM2_a0oy-01856-00413527-00413695 do you all think anybody in here think MLnHM2_a0oy-01857-00413696-00413870 would be a good idea to take that ballot MLnHM2_a0oy-01858-00413871-00414022 box which is filled with something MLnHM2_a0oy-01859-00414023-00414143 valuable MLnHM2_a0oy-01860-00414143-00414318 ballots MLnHM2_a0oy-01861-00414319-00414566 and the the precinct manager simply went MLnHM2_a0oy-01862-00414567-00414807 and put it out on the street MLnHM2_a0oy-01863-00414808-00415055 and left it unattended MLnHM2_a0oy-01864-00415056-00415270 and said well somebody will be by here MLnHM2_a0oy-01865-00415271-00415478 in a while to pick it up i don't think MLnHM2_a0oy-01866-00415479-00415639 anybody agree with that that would be a MLnHM2_a0oy-01867-00415639-00415959 good idea well that's what dropboxes are MLnHM2_a0oy-01868-00415960-00416095 and MLnHM2_a0oy-01869-00416096-00416247 the problems with them could be MLnHM2_a0oy-01870-00416247-00416534 everything from people uh stealing the MLnHM2_a0oy-01871-00416535-00416766 box to what happened last year you may MLnHM2_a0oy-01872-00416767-00416910 have seen prior to the election when MLnHM2_a0oy-01873-00416912-00417070 some mailboxes MLnHM2_a0oy-01874-00417071-00417318 were set on fire that contained MLnHM2_a0oy-01875-00417319-00417510 apparently absentee ballots like in MLnHM2_a0oy-01876-00417512-00417718 richmond and the postal service had to MLnHM2_a0oy-01877-00417719-00417910 send out a notice saying MLnHM2_a0oy-01878-00417912-00418118 if if you dropped an absentee ballot in MLnHM2_a0oy-01879-00418119-00418278 this mailbox MLnHM2_a0oy-01880-00418279-00418478 you'd need to check on it because it may MLnHM2_a0oy-01881-00418479-00418630 have been destroyed that's the problem MLnHM2_a0oy-01882-00418631-00418710 with MLnHM2_a0oy-01883-00418712-00419103 with drop boxes as long as they're MLnHM2_a0oy-01884-00419104-00419303 under surveillance they're guarded so MLnHM2_a0oy-01885-00419304-00419470 that kind of thing can't happen that's MLnHM2_a0oy-01886-00419471-00419647 not a problem and that's what texas has MLnHM2_a0oy-01887-00419647-00419822 said MLnHM2_a0oy-01888-00419823-00419918 um MLnHM2_a0oy-01889-00419919-00420022 okay MLnHM2_a0oy-01890-00420023-00420399 comment yes i think context is key MLnHM2_a0oy-01891-00420400-00420470 so MLnHM2_a0oy-01892-00420471-00420622 while MLnHM2_a0oy-01893-00420623-00420807 it is true that in texas if you have a MLnHM2_a0oy-01894-00420808-00421070 disability you can still vote curbside MLnHM2_a0oy-01895-00421071-00421366 this law was enacted after counties in MLnHM2_a0oy-01896-00421367-00421622 texas allowed drive-through voting last MLnHM2_a0oy-01897-00421623-00421887 year because of the risks of gathering MLnHM2_a0oy-01898-00421888-00422047 during the pandemic MLnHM2_a0oy-01899-00422047-00422151 and MLnHM2_a0oy-01900-00422152-00422375 voters turned out in record numbers in MLnHM2_a0oy-01901-00422376-00422559 harris county where that policy was MLnHM2_a0oy-01902-00422560-00422855 implemented and then lo and behold we MLnHM2_a0oy-01903-00422856-00423095 see a policy that bans drive-through and MLnHM2_a0oy-01904-00423096-00423343 curbside voting for all voters and again MLnHM2_a0oy-01905-00423343-00423583 you have to ask why just because it's MLnHM2_a0oy-01906-00423584-00423710 still allowed for voters with MLnHM2_a0oy-01907-00423712-00423910 disabilities why should it not be MLnHM2_a0oy-01908-00423912-00424135 allowed for other voters if there has MLnHM2_a0oy-01909-00424135-00424431 been no proven problem with that method MLnHM2_a0oy-01910-00424432-00424543 of voting MLnHM2_a0oy-01911-00424543-00424775 likewise context is key when considering MLnHM2_a0oy-01912-00424776-00425070 dropboxes dropboxes have been used MLnHM2_a0oy-01913-00425071-00425287 largely without incident in states MLnHM2_a0oy-01914-00425288-00425566 across the country for many many years MLnHM2_a0oy-01915-00425567-00425743 this is the first year where we are MLnHM2_a0oy-01916-00425743-00426007 seeing laws limit the availability of MLnHM2_a0oy-01917-00426008-00426214 drop boxes and that's because lots of MLnHM2_a0oy-01918-00426215-00426447 voters used them last year MLnHM2_a0oy-01919-00426447-00426551 and MLnHM2_a0oy-01920-00426552-00426839 just as you can drop a your mail ballot MLnHM2_a0oy-01921-00426839-00427095 off in any blue mailbox on the corner MLnHM2_a0oy-01922-00427096-00427303 which is not monitored which is not MLnHM2_a0oy-01923-00427304-00427543 staffed that's the way that drop boxes MLnHM2_a0oy-01924-00427543-00427783 have largely operated in states across MLnHM2_a0oy-01925-00427784-00428070 the country very successfully and again MLnHM2_a0oy-01926-00428071-00428255 that's the kind of convenience MLnHM2_a0oy-01927-00428256-00428470 measure that makes it easier for people MLnHM2_a0oy-01928-00428471-00428751 to vote and therefore increases turnout MLnHM2_a0oy-01929-00428752-00428991 because that convenience that the MLnHM2_a0oy-01930-00428992-00429287 proximity to where you vote actually has MLnHM2_a0oy-01931-00429288-00429614 been shown to increase turnout and MLnHM2_a0oy-01932-00429615-00429831 increasing that distance from where you MLnHM2_a0oy-01933-00429832-00430039 vote has been shown to decrease turnout MLnHM2_a0oy-01934-00430039-00430231 so there's lots of data on this showing MLnHM2_a0oy-01935-00430232-00430487 that these are successful policies MLnHM2_a0oy-01936-00430488-00430622 uh MLnHM2_a0oy-01937-00430623-00430847 good question MLnHM2_a0oy-01938-00430847-00431191 okay so um this is primarily for ms MLnHM2_a0oy-01939-00431192-00431479 swearin becker so uh you said on a few MLnHM2_a0oy-01940-00431480-00431775 occasions that we don't have data about MLnHM2_a0oy-01941-00431776-00432047 the connection between these measures or MLnHM2_a0oy-01942-00432047-00432231 the lack of them and fraud are there MLnHM2_a0oy-01943-00432232-00432470 cases where even in the absence of data MLnHM2_a0oy-01944-00432471-00432703 even in uncertainty we should still act MLnHM2_a0oy-01945-00432704-00432863 one way because MLnHM2_a0oy-01946-00432864-00433007 you know MLnHM2_a0oy-01947-00433008-00433214 the consequences of not doing this MLnHM2_a0oy-01948-00433215-00433327 though we don't know that they will MLnHM2_a0oy-01949-00433328-00433470 happen they could and that there might MLnHM2_a0oy-01950-00433471-00433655 be a low cost so that we should still MLnHM2_a0oy-01951-00433656-00433879 take such measures MLnHM2_a0oy-01952-00433880-00434039 thank you and thank you for dating to MLnHM2_a0oy-01953-00434039-00434231 pronounce my last name which i know is a MLnHM2_a0oy-01954-00434232-00434614 mouthful so i appreciate that um i think MLnHM2_a0oy-01955-00434615-00434903 that the data that we do have shows that MLnHM2_a0oy-01956-00434904-00435191 the risks are very low and we're dealing MLnHM2_a0oy-01957-00435192-00435343 with MLnHM2_a0oy-01958-00435343-00435614 one of if not the most precious right in MLnHM2_a0oy-01959-00435615-00435839 a free society and i think we both agree MLnHM2_a0oy-01960-00435839-00436022 on the on the value of that right to MLnHM2_a0oy-01961-00436023-00436103 vote MLnHM2_a0oy-01962-00436104-00436287 and so when you're talking about MLnHM2_a0oy-01963-00436288-00436518 measures that make it harder to exercise MLnHM2_a0oy-01964-00436519-00436718 that most fundamental right MLnHM2_a0oy-01965-00436719-00436959 you need a really good reason to make MLnHM2_a0oy-01966-00436960-00437222 that more difficult and i don't think we MLnHM2_a0oy-01967-00437223-00437422 have the data to show that what we do MLnHM2_a0oy-01968-00437423-00437599 have the data to show is that these MLnHM2_a0oy-01969-00437600-00437918 risks are infinitesimally small and MLnHM2_a0oy-01970-00437919-00438303 don't justify taking those measures that MLnHM2_a0oy-01971-00438304-00438470 haven't been shown to be helpful in the MLnHM2_a0oy-01972-00438471-00438631 first place MLnHM2_a0oy-01973-00438632-00438966 uh comment tense MLnHM2_a0oy-01974-00438967-00439191 oh your wife well i'll just say i just i MLnHM2_a0oy-01975-00439192-00439614 just don't i just don't agree with it uh MLnHM2_a0oy-01976-00439615-00439879 the u.s has a long history of election MLnHM2_a0oy-01977-00439880-00440079 fraud especially unfortunately in new MLnHM2_a0oy-01978-00440080-00440247 york city MLnHM2_a0oy-01979-00440247-00440327 and MLnHM2_a0oy-01980-00440328-00440535 to just to tell you quickly how easy it MLnHM2_a0oy-01981-00440535-00440766 is to cheat in this city i suggest all MLnHM2_a0oy-01982-00440767-00441039 of you google and find a report put out MLnHM2_a0oy-01983-00441039-00441239 by the new york MLnHM2_a0oy-01984-00441239-00441431 department of investigations after the MLnHM2_a0oy-01985-00441432-00441791 2013 de blasio election MLnHM2_a0oy-01986-00441792-00441918 they did an investigation of the MLnHM2_a0oy-01987-00441919-00442095 election department MLnHM2_a0oy-01988-00442096-00442295 because they got MLnHM2_a0oy-01989-00442296-00442487 two complaints one that everyone in the MLnHM2_a0oy-01990-00442488-00442614 board elections was high they were MLnHM2_a0oy-01991-00442615-00442751 hiring their family which you're not MLnHM2_a0oy-01992-00442752-00442879 supposed to do MLnHM2_a0oy-01993-00442880-00443055 but second that they weren't doing MLnHM2_a0oy-01994-00443056-00443247 anything to maintain the accuracy of the MLnHM2_a0oy-01995-00443247-00443439 voter list MLnHM2_a0oy-01996-00443439-00443759 and to test this on election day they MLnHM2_a0oy-01997-00443760-00444070 sent their undercover agents into new MLnHM2_a0oy-01998-00444071-00444343 york precincts all over the city MLnHM2_a0oy-01999-00444343-00444575 and got their undercover agents to ask MLnHM2_a0oy-02000-00444576-00444799 for the ballots of individuals who were MLnHM2_a0oy-02001-00444800-00444918 dead MLnHM2_a0oy-02002-00444919-00445207 had moved away or otherwise uh MLnHM2_a0oy-02003-00445208-00445351 ineligible to vote because they were MLnHM2_a0oy-02004-00445352-00445566 still on the voter list and they tried MLnHM2_a0oy-02005-00445567-00445743 to make it as obvious as possible the MLnHM2_a0oy-02006-00445743-00445975 best example i recall was one of the MLnHM2_a0oy-02007-00445976-00446079 undercover age as a young MLnHM2_a0oy-02008-00446080-00446279 african-american woman in her 20s she MLnHM2_a0oy-02009-00446280-00446479 went in and asked for the ballot of a MLnHM2_a0oy-02010-00446480-00446631 woman who was still registered to vote MLnHM2_a0oy-02011-00446632-00446918 who was in her 80s caucasian was dead MLnHM2_a0oy-02012-00446919-00447191 in every single case they were handed MLnHM2_a0oy-02013-00447192-00447422 the ballot without question MLnHM2_a0oy-02014-00447423-00447622 so they could have voted the ballot and MLnHM2_a0oy-02015-00447623-00447975 there was only one person who was caught MLnHM2_a0oy-02016-00447976-00448191 and that person was caught because they MLnHM2_a0oy-02017-00448192-00448455 went in and asked for the ballot of an MLnHM2_a0oy-02018-00448456-00448631 individual who is currently in the state MLnHM2_a0oy-02019-00448632-00448870 penitentiary and therefore can't vote MLnHM2_a0oy-02020-00448871-00449031 and it so happened that the woman MLnHM2_a0oy-02021-00449032-00449263 working at the registration desk was the MLnHM2_a0oy-02022-00449264-00449447 prisoner's mother and realized that was MLnHM2_a0oy-02023-00449447-00449655 not her son MLnHM2_a0oy-02024-00449656-00449918 we now move to the uh summation portion MLnHM2_a0oy-02025-00449919-00450335 of the evening uh uh eliza uh your MLnHM2_a0oy-02026-00450335-00450535 summation your five minute summation MLnHM2_a0oy-02027-00450535-00450799 take the podium eliza oh i was not aware MLnHM2_a0oy-02028-00450800-00451087 that we had a five five-minute summation MLnHM2_a0oy-02029-00451088-00451159 i'm MLnHM2_a0oy-02030-00451160-00451518 sure that you've got a lot to say anyway MLnHM2_a0oy-02031-00451519-00451607 um MLnHM2_a0oy-02032-00451608-00451799 as i mentioned off mike i was not aware MLnHM2_a0oy-02033-00451800-00452007 that we had a five-minute submission so MLnHM2_a0oy-02034-00452008-00452247 i have nothing particularly prepared um MLnHM2_a0oy-02035-00452247-00452439 but i think i would just MLnHM2_a0oy-02036-00452439-00452695 refer all of you back to the resolution MLnHM2_a0oy-02037-00452696-00452943 which is that state lawmakers across the MLnHM2_a0oy-02038-00452943-00453151 country are actively working to make it MLnHM2_a0oy-02039-00453152-00453359 harder for americans to vote MLnHM2_a0oy-02040-00453360-00453599 i haven't heard anything today that MLnHM2_a0oy-02041-00453600-00453863 disproves that what we have seen our MLnHM2_a0oy-02042-00453864-00454110 policies enacted dozens of policies MLnHM2_a0oy-02043-00454112-00454391 enacted just this year that cut back on MLnHM2_a0oy-02044-00454392-00454575 early voting that cut back on mail MLnHM2_a0oy-02045-00454576-00454775 voting that cut back on disability MLnHM2_a0oy-02046-00454776-00454887 access MLnHM2_a0oy-02047-00454888-00455135 and and these policies have been proven MLnHM2_a0oy-02048-00455135-00455343 time and time again to make it harder to MLnHM2_a0oy-02049-00455343-00455583 vote these are precisely the policies MLnHM2_a0oy-02050-00455584-00455814 that states many states adopted for the MLnHM2_a0oy-02051-00455815-00456110 first time last year or that voters took MLnHM2_a0oy-02052-00456112-00456399 advantage of in record numbers last year MLnHM2_a0oy-02053-00456400-00456575 in order to vote safely during the MLnHM2_a0oy-02054-00456576-00456831 pandemic and now those policies are the MLnHM2_a0oy-02055-00456832-00457079 target of these state lawmakers because MLnHM2_a0oy-02056-00457080-00457359 we've seen so many people turn out MLnHM2_a0oy-02057-00457360-00457599 and nothing i've heard today shows that MLnHM2_a0oy-02058-00457600-00457799 shows that state lawmakers MLnHM2_a0oy-02059-00457800-00457966 or that many state lawmakers are not MLnHM2_a0oy-02060-00457967-00458207 making it trying to make it harder for MLnHM2_a0oy-02061-00458208-00458375 vote eligible voters to cast their MLnHM2_a0oy-02062-00458376-00458599 ballots and again i would urge you all MLnHM2_a0oy-02063-00458600-00458863 to look behind the overall turnout MLnHM2_a0oy-02064-00458864-00459183 numbers from the 2020 election and see MLnHM2_a0oy-02065-00459184-00459431 what see what lawmakers are actually MLnHM2_a0oy-02066-00459432-00459583 trying to do MLnHM2_a0oy-02067-00459584-00459799 because it matters what their motivation MLnHM2_a0oy-02068-00459800-00459999 is it matters that there are efforts MLnHM2_a0oy-02069-00460000-00460231 being undertaken by state lawmakers to MLnHM2_a0oy-02070-00460232-00460503 undermine our democracy to undermine MLnHM2_a0oy-02071-00460504-00460766 americans participation to undermine our MLnHM2_a0oy-02072-00460767-00460983 faith in the electoral system without MLnHM2_a0oy-02073-00460984-00461191 being based on particular data to MLnHM2_a0oy-02074-00461192-00461807 substantiate those laws MLnHM2_a0oy-02075-00461808-00462559 five minutes MLnHM2_a0oy-02076-00462560-00462710 just one quick thing i keep hearing MLnHM2_a0oy-02077-00462712-00462879 early voting days cut back that was MLnHM2_a0oy-02078-00462880-00463055 actually claim made about the georgia MLnHM2_a0oy-02079-00463056-00463279 reform bill we even heard joe biden make MLnHM2_a0oy-02080-00463280-00463487 it that is absolutely false MLnHM2_a0oy-02081-00463488-00463695 you can look at the bill you can see MLnHM2_a0oy-02082-00463696-00463910 that they did not reduce the number of MLnHM2_a0oy-02083-00463912-00464207 early voting days and in fact MLnHM2_a0oy-02084-00464208-00464463 they have about the same average number MLnHM2_a0oy-02085-00464464-00464670 uh that other states do in fact texas MLnHM2_a0oy-02086-00464671-00464799 was one of the first states in the MLnHM2_a0oy-02087-00464800-00464959 entire united states to put in early MLnHM2_a0oy-02088-00464960-00465175 voting MLnHM2_a0oy-02089-00465176-00465383 they still have more early voting than MLnHM2_a0oy-02090-00465384-00465622 the state of new york MLnHM2_a0oy-02091-00465623-00465791 they have more early voting than the MLnHM2_a0oy-02092-00465792-00466039 state of delaware which currently has no MLnHM2_a0oy-02093-00466039-00466222 early voting and i don't seem to hear MLnHM2_a0oy-02094-00466223-00466327 anyone MLnHM2_a0oy-02095-00466328-00466495 saying we're going to have to sue new MLnHM2_a0oy-02096-00466496-00466791 york and delaware because MLnHM2_a0oy-02097-00466792-00466975 they have less early voting days and MLnHM2_a0oy-02098-00466976-00467231 delaware has none they have passed MLnHM2_a0oy-02099-00467232-00467366 a law they're going to start having it MLnHM2_a0oy-02100-00467367-00467735 in 2022 but it still will be fewer days MLnHM2_a0oy-02101-00467735-00468247 then texas and and georgia MLnHM2_a0oy-02102-00468247-00468510 it is important that we MLnHM2_a0oy-02103-00468512-00468703 maintain the security of our elections MLnHM2_a0oy-02104-00468704-00468951 it can be done and it's been shown to be MLnHM2_a0oy-02105-00468952-00469135 done MLnHM2_a0oy-02106-00469135-00469575 by now 13 years worth of data you know MLnHM2_a0oy-02107-00469576-00469775 everybody's talking as if the only MLnHM2_a0oy-02108-00469776-00469975 election reforms ever passed when this MLnHM2_a0oy-02109-00469976-00470255 it's past legislative session no MLnHM2_a0oy-02110-00470256-00470487 as i said the first voter id laws were MLnHM2_a0oy-02111-00470488-00470959 passed in 2005 in georgia indiana other MLnHM2_a0oy-02112-00470960-00471127 states have been putting them in over MLnHM2_a0oy-02113-00471128-00471327 the years everywhere from MLnHM2_a0oy-02114-00471328-00471591 north carolina to arizona to other MLnHM2_a0oy-02115-00471592-00471870 states and in that entire time turnout MLnHM2_a0oy-02116-00471871-00472214 has just been going up and registration MLnHM2_a0oy-02117-00472215-00472583 has been going up and if you doubt me MLnHM2_a0oy-02118-00472584-00472839 on that issue MLnHM2_a0oy-02119-00472839-00472991 here's something else for you to google MLnHM2_a0oy-02120-00472992-00473207 pull up the 20 MLnHM2_a0oy-02121-00473208-00473518 the u.s census report on the 2020 MLnHM2_a0oy-02122-00473519-00473735 election MLnHM2_a0oy-02123-00473735-00473999 we had the biggest turnout in MLnHM2_a0oy-02124-00474000-00474303 last year's election in MLnHM2_a0oy-02125-00474304-00474487 this century MLnHM2_a0oy-02126-00474488-00474655 and it was the second highest turnout MLnHM2_a0oy-02127-00474656-00474863 according to the census bureau since the MLnHM2_a0oy-02128-00474864-00475231 92 election so this entire time where MLnHM2_a0oy-02129-00475232-00475351 people have been doing things like MLnHM2_a0oy-02130-00475352-00475607 putting in id laws to try to prevent MLnHM2_a0oy-02131-00475608-00475855 fraud registration and turnout have been MLnHM2_a0oy-02132-00475856-00476103 going up and the attitudes about this MLnHM2_a0oy-02133-00476104-00476255 show this ex like i said this MLnHM2_a0oy-02134-00476256-00476510 extraordinarily patronizing attitude MLnHM2_a0oy-02135-00476512-00476751 towards the american public MLnHM2_a0oy-02136-00476752-00476943 as if for example they can't deal with MLnHM2_a0oy-02137-00476943-00477487 the free getting a free id MLnHM2_a0oy-02138-00477488-00477799 i want to end by quoting uh former MLnHM2_a0oy-02139-00477800-00478031 president jimmy carter and former MLnHM2_a0oy-02140-00478032-00478255 secretary of state james baker MLnHM2_a0oy-02141-00478256-00478535 in 2005 they issued a report this was MLnHM2_a0oy-02142-00478535-00478718 after the MLnHM2_a0oy-02143-00478719-00478999 florida election MLnHM2_a0oy-02144-00479000-00479151 they formed a commission on federal MLnHM2_a0oy-02145-00479152-00479318 election reform MLnHM2_a0oy-02146-00479319-00479527 and they said this which i think is MLnHM2_a0oy-02147-00479528-00479759 extraordinarily correct MLnHM2_a0oy-02148-00479760-00479959 uh and by the way one of the things that MLnHM2_a0oy-02149-00479960-00480183 both jimmy carter and james baker in the MLnHM2_a0oy-02150-00480184-00480614 report recommended was voter id MLnHM2_a0oy-02151-00480615-00480879 elections are the heart of democracy MLnHM2_a0oy-02152-00480880-00481062 they are the instrument for the people MLnHM2_a0oy-02153-00481063-00481262 to choose leaders and hold them MLnHM2_a0oy-02154-00481263-00481383 accountable MLnHM2_a0oy-02155-00481384-00481607 at the same time elections are a core MLnHM2_a0oy-02156-00481608-00481839 public function upon which all other MLnHM2_a0oy-02157-00481839-00482095 government responsibilities depend if MLnHM2_a0oy-02158-00482096-00482327 elections are defective the entire MLnHM2_a0oy-02159-00482328-00482662 democratic system is at risk MLnHM2_a0oy-02160-00482663-00482831 i agree with that and i don't think we MLnHM2_a0oy-02161-00482832-00483110 should put it at risk by MLnHM2_a0oy-02162-00483112-00483407 having a system that makes it easy MLnHM2_a0oy-02163-00483408-00483614 for people to MLnHM2_a0oy-02164-00483615-00483799 vote without authenticating their MLnHM2_a0oy-02165-00483800-00483951 identity MLnHM2_a0oy-02166-00483952-00484295 without authenticating their citizenship MLnHM2_a0oy-02167-00484296-00484535 that makes it easy for them to register MLnHM2_a0oy-02168-00484535-00484718 in two different states MLnHM2_a0oy-02169-00484719-00484959 and not get caught because states don't MLnHM2_a0oy-02170-00484960-00485143 do a good job of comparing their voter MLnHM2_a0oy-02171-00485143-00485247 lists MLnHM2_a0oy-02172-00485247-00485487 and while in some cases it might just be MLnHM2_a0oy-02173-00485488-00485759 one person cheating MLnHM2_a0oy-02174-00485760-00485983 like the student we just added to our MLnHM2_a0oy-02175-00485984-00486183 database who was prosecuted he's a MLnHM2_a0oy-02176-00486184-00486455 resident of massachusetts MLnHM2_a0oy-02177-00486456-00486575 he's going to the university of new MLnHM2_a0oy-02178-00486576-00486791 hampshire and he voted in both states MLnHM2_a0oy-02179-00486792-00486991 illegally MLnHM2_a0oy-02180-00486992-00487207 or if it's a group of individuals who MLnHM2_a0oy-02181-00487208-00487447 have acted together to steal an election MLnHM2_a0oy-02182-00487447-00487743 like the half dozen individuals who were MLnHM2_a0oy-02183-00487743-00488022 criminally charged in north carolina MLnHM2_a0oy-02184-00488023-00488183 in the congressional race that was MLnHM2_a0oy-02185-00488184-00488431 overturned because of their fraud we MLnHM2_a0oy-02186-00488432-00488670 should be concerned about it MLnHM2_a0oy-02187-00488671-00488855 and we can do things MLnHM2_a0oy-02188-00488856-00489062 to make sure that doesn't happen at the MLnHM2_a0oy-02189-00489063-00489199 same time MLnHM2_a0oy-02190-00489200-00489462 that we allow and make it possible for MLnHM2_a0oy-02191-00489463-00489679 eligible americans to vote MLnHM2_a0oy-02192-00489680-00489814 access MLnHM2_a0oy-02193-00489815-00490047 does not prevent security and security MLnHM2_a0oy-02194-00490047-00490239 does not prevent access thank you very MLnHM2_a0oy-02195-00490239-00490274 much MLnHM2_a0oy-02196-00490275-00490791 [Music] MLnHM2_a0oy-02197-00490792-00491151 well it was an interesting uh heat MLnHM2_a0oy-02198-00491152-00491391 the yes votes began with a little over MLnHM2_a0oy-02199-00491392-00491551 31 MLnHM2_a0oy-02200-00491552-00491910 and uh ended with 44 percent took up and MLnHM2_a0oy-02201-00491912-00492199 gained more than 13 points MLnHM2_a0oy-02202-00492200-00492495 and that's the number to beat the no MLnHM2_a0oy-02203-00492496-00492655 votes uh MLnHM2_a0oy-02204-00492656-00493022 gained uh gained 18 points so beat the MLnHM2_a0oy-02205-00493023-00493287 that by five points the tootsie roll MLnHM2_a0oy-02206-00493288-00493503 therefore goes to the negative MLnHM2_a0oy-02207-00493504-00494283 congratulations to you MLnHM2_a0oy-02208-00494284-00494600 both you MNEMNYOMwqA-00000-00000176-00000463 okay recording is in progress right now MNEMNYOMwqA-00001-00000463-00000799 as i don't know if gabo is coming MNEMNYOMwqA-00002-00000800-00001127 because he has certain problems MNEMNYOMwqA-00003-00001128-00001447 and well i pers i have to proceed MNEMNYOMwqA-00004-00001448-00001743 recording his class do you accept MNEMNYOMwqA-00005-00001744-00002079 recording this class for gabo omero MNEMNYOMwqA-00006-00002080-00002415 and sure there there's no problem for me MNEMNYOMwqA-00007-00002416-00002702 no problem for you how about you do you MNEMNYOMwqA-00008-00002703-00002926 accept recording this class for MNEMNYOMwqA-00009-00002927-00003238 for gabo emilio should we yes this year MNEMNYOMwqA-00010-00003239-00003599 no problem okay how about you MNEMNYOMwqA-00011-00003600-00003879 do you accept the record in this class MNEMNYOMwqA-00012-00003879-00004159 yeah no problem okay if you don't want MNEMNYOMwqA-00013-00004160-00004559 anybody else to see you you can omit the MNEMNYOMwqA-00014-00004560-00004863 video if you want whenever you want MNEMNYOMwqA-00015-00004864-00004959 okay MNEMNYOMwqA-00016-00004960-00005254 no problem okay so this class is being MNEMNYOMwqA-00017-00005255-00005560 recorded and let me share the screen um MNEMNYOMwqA-00018-00005561-00005718 [Music] MNEMNYOMwqA-00019-00005719-00005975 what time what what is the day today MNEMNYOMwqA-00020-00005976-00006286 what's the day today is um MNEMNYOMwqA-00021-00006287-00006375 uh MNEMNYOMwqA-00022-00006376-00006567 22nd MNEMNYOMwqA-00023-00006568-00006823 of march MNEMNYOMwqA-00024-00006823-00007183 all right okay it's tuesday march 22nd MNEMNYOMwqA-00025-00007184-00007527 2022 so here we are we were here MNEMNYOMwqA-00026-00007528-00007798 yesterday we finished this we answered MNEMNYOMwqA-00027-00007800-00008142 this exercise on the video resource book MNEMNYOMwqA-00028-00008143-00008607 but we have to continue here on part b MNEMNYOMwqA-00029-00008608-00008855 you remember part a MNEMNYOMwqA-00030-00008856-00009142 chewie you remember MNEMNYOMwqA-00031-00009143-00009503 not bishop no no okay it's necessary to MNEMNYOMwqA-00032-00009504-00009767 to watch the video again not only for MNEMNYOMwqA-00033-00009768-00010110 you but for mr omero who probably MNEMNYOMwqA-00034-00010111-00010327 doesn't understand what we are talking MNEMNYOMwqA-00035-00010328-00010423 about MNEMNYOMwqA-00036-00010424-00010646 omero we are talking about these MNEMNYOMwqA-00037-00010647-00010878 four people here MNEMNYOMwqA-00038-00010879-00011095 this is person number one person two MNEMNYOMwqA-00039-00011096-00011383 person three person four okay and they MNEMNYOMwqA-00040-00011384-00011646 are talking about entertainment okay MNEMNYOMwqA-00041-00011647-00011870 and if you didn't listen to it if you MNEMNYOMwqA-00042-00011871-00012006 didn't watch it MNEMNYOMwqA-00043-00012007-00012263 so here's the answer uh for the MNEMNYOMwqA-00044-00012264-00012463 questions here you are MNEMNYOMwqA-00045-00012464-00012695 okay you're gonna circle MNEMNYOMwqA-00046-00012696-00012910 which people gave MNEMNYOMwqA-00047-00012911-00013255 these opinions okay MNEMNYOMwqA-00048-00013256-00013551 your circle which person MNEMNYOMwqA-00049-00013552-00013694 gave MNEMNYOMwqA-00050-00013695-00013919 these opinions okay MNEMNYOMwqA-00051-00013919-00014158 what are the opinions number one special MNEMNYOMwqA-00052-00014159-00014351 effects are better MNEMNYOMwqA-00053-00014352-00014671 on the big screen MNEMNYOMwqA-00054-00014672-00014927 another one is okay can you repeat MNEMNYOMwqA-00055-00014928-00015175 number one repeat everybody MNEMNYOMwqA-00056-00015176-00015503 special effects are better on the big MNEMNYOMwqA-00057-00015504-00015727 screen MNEMNYOMwqA-00058-00015728-00016199 special effects are better MNEMNYOMwqA-00059-00016200-00016455 that's good okay uh MNEMNYOMwqA-00060-00016456-00016703 gabriel is entering right now but in MNEMNYOMwqA-00061-00016704-00016991 order not to stop this let's continue MNEMNYOMwqA-00062-00016992-00017327 repeating number two everybody repeats MNEMNYOMwqA-00063-00017328-00017543 all movies are better MNEMNYOMwqA-00064-00017544-00018191 on the big screen MNEMNYOMwqA-00065-00018192-00018407 okay and the other one number three can MNEMNYOMwqA-00066-00018408-00018599 you please repeat MNEMNYOMwqA-00067-00018600-00018791 it's a night MNEMNYOMwqA-00068-00018792-00019255 on the town it's a night on the town MNEMNYOMwqA-00069-00019256-00019575 that's right and opinion number four MNEMNYOMwqA-00070-00019576-00019991 would be watching movies is more fun MNEMNYOMwqA-00071-00019992-00020183 in a group MNEMNYOMwqA-00072-00020184-00020599 watching watching movies MNEMNYOMwqA-00073-00020600-00020943 okay now i can see gabriel's boys MNEMNYOMwqA-00074-00020944-00021214 gabrielle's boys great gabriel is here MNEMNYOMwqA-00075-00021215-00021455 hello gabriel how are you MNEMNYOMwqA-00076-00021456-00021655 i'm finding a new teacher MNEMNYOMwqA-00077-00021656-00022063 i'm okay here you are mr omero MNEMNYOMwqA-00078-00022064-00022575 chui and rasa romero julian hassan MNEMNYOMwqA-00079-00022576-00022727 okay say hello MNEMNYOMwqA-00080-00022728-00023094 okay observe um let me stop having this MNEMNYOMwqA-00081-00023095-00023367 uh recorded because it is not necessary MNEMNYOMwqA-00082-00023368-00023494 you are here MNEMNYOMwqA-00083-00023495-00023767 okay so let me stop recording no more MNEMNYOMwqA-00084-00023768-00024184 recording this was to be sent to you Mpm3bHXLbrg-00000-00000000-00000221 pollution live stream this is democracy Mpm3bHXLbrg-00001-00000222-00000443 now democracynow.org the war and peace Mpm3bHXLbrg-00002-00000444-00000586 report I'm Amy Goodman with Juan Mpm3bHXLbrg-00003-00000587-00000848 Gonzalez well we turn now to look at the Mpm3bHXLbrg-00004-00000849-00001033 Occupy Wall Street movement and its Mpm3bHXLbrg-00005-00001034-00001274 legacy on its second anniversary on Mpm3bHXLbrg-00006-00001275-00001607 September 17 2011 thousands of people Mpm3bHXLbrg-00007-00001607-00001852 marched on the financial district then Mpm3bHXLbrg-00008-00001853-00002047 formed an encampment in Zuccotti Park Mpm3bHXLbrg-00009-00002048-00002282 launching a movement that shifted the Mpm3bHXLbrg-00010-00002283-00002495 conversation and economic inequality Mpm3bHXLbrg-00011-00002496-00002675 here in New York activists marked the Mpm3bHXLbrg-00012-00002676-00002858 occasion Tuesday with a march New York Mpm3bHXLbrg-00013-00002859-00003037 Stock Exchange and the United Nations Mpm3bHXLbrg-00014-00003038-00003278 highlighting a call for taxing Wall Mpm3bHXLbrg-00015-00003279-00003481 Street transactions and directing the Mpm3bHXLbrg-00016-00003482-00003659 funds to public causes or more we're Mpm3bHXLbrg-00017-00003660-00003869 joined by two guests Nicole cardi is an Mpm3bHXLbrg-00018-00003870-00004022 actions coordinator with the other Mpm3bHXLbrg-00019-00004022-00004202 ninety eight percent during Occupy Wall Mpm3bHXLbrg-00020-00004203-00004415 Street you as a facilitator at General Mpm3bHXLbrg-00021-00004416-00004604 Assemblies and spokes council meetings Mpm3bHXLbrg-00022-00004605-00004751 and she was a member of the Occupy Mpm3bHXLbrg-00023-00004752-00004976 people of color caucus Nathan Schneider Mpm3bHXLbrg-00024-00004977-00005165 is also with us editor of the website Mpm3bHXLbrg-00025-00005166-00005336 waging nonviolence author of the new Mpm3bHXLbrg-00026-00005337-00005558 book Thank You anarchy notes from the Mpm3bHXLbrg-00027-00005559-00005840 Occupy apocalypse we welcome you both to Mpm3bHXLbrg-00028-00005841-00006154 Democracy Now why occupy apocalypse Mpm3bHXLbrg-00029-00006155-00006403 Nathan it's a great question it's a Mpm3bHXLbrg-00030-00006404-00006653 question I get a lot the word in Greek Mpm3bHXLbrg-00031-00006654-00006959 meant unveiling right it described a Mpm3bHXLbrg-00032-00006959-00007348 moment in which in which something is Mpm3bHXLbrg-00033-00007350-00007570 revealed that changes our perception of Mpm3bHXLbrg-00034-00007572-00007787 everything and I think that pretty Mpm3bHXLbrg-00035-00007788-00007960 accurately describes what happened with Mpm3bHXLbrg-00036-00007961-00008170 Occupy Wall Street both for us as a Mpm3bHXLbrg-00037-00008172-00008474 society in revealing the depth of income Mpm3bHXLbrg-00038-00008475-00008687 inequality of the corruption of the Mpm3bHXLbrg-00039-00008688-00008914 political system and also of the power Mpm3bHXLbrg-00040-00008915-00009155 of the militarized police state but also Mpm3bHXLbrg-00041-00009156-00009356 for so many individuals who took part Mpm3bHXLbrg-00042-00009357-00009635 across the country I've been privileged Mpm3bHXLbrg-00043-00009636-00009866 to meet so many people and to watch them Mpm3bHXLbrg-00044-00009867-00010049 as their lives were changed by this Mpm3bHXLbrg-00045-00010050-00010256 movement as they became activated and Mpm3bHXLbrg-00046-00010257-00010513 haven't been able to go back to the way Mpm3bHXLbrg-00047-00010514-00010874 their lives were before well listen you Mpm3bHXLbrg-00048-00010875-00011006 right in the in the beginning of the Mpm3bHXLbrg-00049-00011007-00011171 book you say for nearly two months in Mpm3bHXLbrg-00050-00011172-00011378 the fall of two thousand eleven a square Mpm3bHXLbrg-00051-00011379-00011627 block of granite and honey locust trees Mpm3bHXLbrg-00052-00011628-00011824 in New York's financial district right Mpm3bHXLbrg-00053-00011825-00011963 between Wall Street in the World Trade Mpm3bHXLbrg-00054-00011964-00012227 Center became a canvas for the image of Mpm3bHXLbrg-00055-00012228-00012628 another world two years later how as Mpm3bHXLbrg-00056-00012629-00013019 that canvas been preserved and and what Mpm3bHXLbrg-00057-00013019-00013238 is some of the activities that the Mpm3bHXLbrg-00058-00013238-00013329 Occupy Mpm3bHXLbrg-00059-00013330-00013631 now evolved well to talk about the Mpm3bHXLbrg-00060-00013632-00013926 canvas itself it's interesting to see Mpm3bHXLbrg-00061-00013927-00014127 the ways in which the movement is Mpm3bHXLbrg-00062-00014128-00014366 memorialized kind of informally in the Mpm3bHXLbrg-00063-00014368-00014550 financial district there's still a wall Mpm3bHXLbrg-00064-00014551-00014769 of barricades around the charging bull Mpm3bHXLbrg-00065-00014769-00014933 statue there are still regularly Mpm3bHXLbrg-00066-00014934-00015180 barricades in Zuccotti Park there are Mpm3bHXLbrg-00067-00015181-00015453 still barricades around chase manhattan Mpm3bHXLbrg-00068-00015454-00015747 plaza which was the original planned Mpm3bHXLbrg-00069-00015747-00015996 kind of decoy site for the occupation Mpm3bHXLbrg-00070-00015997-00016218 it's amazing how the security state is Mpm3bHXLbrg-00071-00016219-00016440 still living in fear of this movement Mpm3bHXLbrg-00072-00016441-00016749 but at the same time activists who were Mpm3bHXLbrg-00073-00016750-00016965 involved in it many of them are spread Mpm3bHXLbrg-00074-00016966-00017265 out across the country in in all kinds Mpm3bHXLbrg-00075-00017266-00017442 of networks that have formed through the Mpm3bHXLbrg-00076-00017443-00017607 course of this movement putting their Mpm3bHXLbrg-00077-00017608-00017748 bodies in the way of the Keystone Mpm3bHXLbrg-00078-00017749-00018243 pipeline calling attention to two issues Mpm3bHXLbrg-00079-00018244-00018431 like a financial transaction tax Mpm3bHXLbrg-00080-00018432-00018717 bringing housing activists together Mpm3bHXLbrg-00081-00018718-00018906 around the country to create a stronger Mpm3bHXLbrg-00082-00018907-00019137 movement there are a number of campaigns Mpm3bHXLbrg-00083-00019138-00019326 that have been profoundly strengthened Mpm3bHXLbrg-00084-00019327-00019590 by networks formed an Occupy movement Mpm3bHXLbrg-00085-00019591-00019743 Nicole cardi where were you two years Mpm3bHXLbrg-00086-00019744-00020094 ago two years ago I was working for Mpm3bHXLbrg-00087-00020095-00020334 Sundance Channel doing content Mpm3bHXLbrg-00088-00020335-00020547 management I was just one of many Mpm3bHXLbrg-00089-00020548-00020775 precariat who didn't really have a solid Mpm3bHXLbrg-00090-00020776-00021027 job and I came in to occupy because it Mpm3bHXLbrg-00091-00021028-00021180 was the first time I ever had seen Mpm3bHXLbrg-00092-00021181-00021384 people my own age or anyone for that Mpm3bHXLbrg-00093-00021385-00021552 matter talking about the deep and Mpm3bHXLbrg-00094-00021553-00021831 equality within this country it was just Mpm3bHXLbrg-00095-00021832-00022071 kind of the secret and I feel like part Mpm3bHXLbrg-00096-00022072-00022269 of the legacy is that that is so Mpm3bHXLbrg-00097-00022270-00022437 unveiled at this point it's not even Mpm3bHXLbrg-00098-00022438-00022608 question so talk about what it was Mpm3bHXLbrg-00099-00022609-00022850 really like so what day did you go to Mpm3bHXLbrg-00100-00022851-00023187 occupy and describe the community their Mpm3bHXLbrg-00101-00023188-00023562 first day I went so I've been stalking Mpm3bHXLbrg-00102-00023563-00023819 occupy on livestream for a full week I Mpm3bHXLbrg-00103-00023820-00024012 was glued to it before I went down there Mpm3bHXLbrg-00104-00024013-00024174 and the first day that I stepped down Mpm3bHXLbrg-00105-00024175-00024363 there was October first which I don't Mpm3bHXLbrg-00106-00024364-00024497 know if you remember but that was the Mpm3bHXLbrg-00107-00024498-00024722 Brooklyn Bridge day and so me and my Mpm3bHXLbrg-00108-00024723-00024861 friend were down there chanting and Mpm3bHXLbrg-00109-00024862-00025011 having a great time because we don't act Mpm3bHXLbrg-00110-00025012-00025221 was in the past and we this was old hat Mpm3bHXLbrg-00111-00025222-00025533 to us but we did not expect what was Mpm3bHXLbrg-00112-00025534-00025694 going to happen on the bridge that day Mpm3bHXLbrg-00113-00025695-00025744 and Mpm3bHXLbrg-00114-00025745-00026189 after after 10 let me go back so people Mpm3bHXLbrg-00115-00026189-00026435 just stormed the bridge as opposed to Mpm3bHXLbrg-00116-00026436-00026683 taking the pedestrian route / over the Mpm3bHXLbrg-00117-00026684-00027251 bridge and about God 400 people hundreds Mpm3bHXLbrg-00118-00027252-00027433 hundreds of people got arrested on the Mpm3bHXLbrg-00119-00027434-00027745 Brooklyn Bridge October first 2011 and Mpm3bHXLbrg-00120-00027747-00028012 we were kind of just witnessing the Mpm3bHXLbrg-00121-00028013-00028233 police state and witnessing some slowly Mpm3bHXLbrg-00122-00028234-00028502 taking people from the bridge putting Mpm3bHXLbrg-00123-00028502-00028693 them in custody and it was really Mpm3bHXLbrg-00124-00028694-00028855 transformative and I couldn't I couldn't Mpm3bHXLbrg-00125-00028856-00029036 shake it I had to go back every day Mpm3bHXLbrg-00126-00029037-00029233 since then and I don't think I've really Mpm3bHXLbrg-00127-00029234-00029681 ever left to be entirely honest you were Mpm3bHXLbrg-00128-00029682-00029957 involved actually from before the start Mpm3bHXLbrg-00129-00029958-00030077 of the events and could you talk about Mpm3bHXLbrg-00130-00030077-00030317 those early days before the actual Mpm3bHXLbrg-00131-00030318-00030581 encampment yeah yeah I was just reminded Mpm3bHXLbrg-00132-00030582-00030796 of it by watching myself briefly being Mpm3bHXLbrg-00133-00030797-00031012 depicted on the newsroom on the HBO show Mpm3bHXLbrg-00134-00031013-00031321 as they were re-enacting those meetings Mpm3bHXLbrg-00135-00031322-00031817 but I showed up at the third planning Mpm3bHXLbrg-00136-00031818-00032137 meeting before the occupation began and Mpm3bHXLbrg-00137-00032138-00032414 announced myself as a journalist and and Mpm3bHXLbrg-00138-00032414-00032662 a debate ensued about whether I could Mpm3bHXLbrg-00139-00032663-00032876 stay I mean that everything was being Mpm3bHXLbrg-00140-00032877-00033077 worked out from scratch yes was wearing Mpm3bHXLbrg-00141-00033078-00033262 tom this was in Tompkins Square Park in Mpm3bHXLbrg-00142-00033263-00033512 New York City yeah and it was an amazing Mpm3bHXLbrg-00143-00033513-00033731 thing to come across because there were Mpm3bHXLbrg-00144-00033732-00034007 all these you know pockets of activists Mpm3bHXLbrg-00145-00034008-00034181 many of them didn't know each other they Mpm3bHXLbrg-00146-00034182-00034436 were united by this kind of odd call Mpm3bHXLbrg-00147-00034437-00034668 that Adbusters had made but they were Mpm3bHXLbrg-00148-00034669-00034924 committed to making it their own and Mpm3bHXLbrg-00149-00034925-00035140 explained the odd Buster's call the Mpm3bHXLbrg-00150-00035141-00035440 initial adbusters called in call in july Mpm3bHXLbrg-00151-00035441-00035927 of or in the summer of two thousand Mpm3bHXLbrg-00152-00035928-00036127 eleven was to occupy wall street and Mpm3bHXLbrg-00153-00036128-00036358 there was a picture of a ballerina on Mpm3bHXLbrg-00154-00036359-00036542 top of that charging bull statue and Mpm3bHXLbrg-00155-00036543-00036715 then it asked the question what is our Mpm3bHXLbrg-00156-00036716-00036940 one demand at the top and over the Mpm3bHXLbrg-00157-00036941-00037283 course of these meetings that call that Mpm3bHXLbrg-00158-00037284-00037465 idea of bringing people to Wall Street Mpm3bHXLbrg-00159-00037466-00037727 shifted these activists decided that Mpm3bHXLbrg-00160-00037728-00037933 what they were more interested in was Mpm3bHXLbrg-00161-00037934-00038126 building a movement they weren't ready Mpm3bHXLbrg-00162-00038127-00038282 to make one demand they weren't powerful Mpm3bHXLbrg-00163-00038283-00038477 enough what they needed to do was Mpm3bHXLbrg-00164-00038478-00038693 empower people around the country in Mpm3bHXLbrg-00165-00038694-00038853 communities around the Mpm3bHXLbrg-00166-00038854-00039208 in every city in every neighborhood to Mpm3bHXLbrg-00167-00039209-00039421 build their own occupations to build Mpm3bHXLbrg-00168-00039422-00039625 their own assemblies and to build power Mpm3bHXLbrg-00169-00039626-00039853 so that they could make demands and that Mpm3bHXLbrg-00170-00039854-00040168 they could change the world but of Mpm3bHXLbrg-00171-00040169-00040375 course they although there were many Mpm3bHXLbrg-00172-00040376-00040624 demands the one that entered the Mpm3bHXLbrg-00173-00040625-00040954 American lexicon of the 99 percent and Mpm3bHXLbrg-00174-00040955-00041335 clearly President Obama then seized on Mpm3bHXLbrg-00175-00041336-00041503 that his campaign we have a mayoral Mpm3bHXLbrg-00176-00041504-00041743 candidate right now New York City Bill Mpm3bHXLbrg-00177-00041744-00041968 DeBlasio who has seized on the income Mpm3bHXLbrg-00178-00041969-00042265 inequality issue and is now poised Mpm3bHXLbrg-00179-00042266-00042430 perhaps to become the next New York City Mpm3bHXLbrg-00180-00042431-00042670 Mayor what has happened again to the Mpm3bHXLbrg-00181-00042671-00042831 movement since then because obviously Mpm3bHXLbrg-00182-00042832-00043228 once the groups were busted up by the Mpm3bHXLbrg-00183-00043229-00043507 police in the various cities all kinds Mpm3bHXLbrg-00184-00043508-00043768 of ideas of how to keep the movement Mpm3bHXLbrg-00185-00043769-00044151 going I'm interested in what's been the Mpm3bHXLbrg-00186-00044152-00044407 responses of various activists to how to Mpm3bHXLbrg-00187-00044408-00044599 keep the movement going well the Mpm3bHXLbrg-00188-00044600-00044788 movement is a network at this point and Mpm3bHXLbrg-00189-00044789-00044953 that's what's most important is that we Mpm3bHXLbrg-00190-00044954-00045157 met each other and you've seen us crop Mpm3bHXLbrg-00191-00045158-00045391 back up with occupy sandy just last year Mpm3bHXLbrg-00192-00045392-00045610 the people still know each other I don't Mpm3bHXLbrg-00193-00045611-00045802 think those helping people in hurricane Mpm3bHXLbrg-00194-00045803-00046160 right exactly recovery relief but a Mpm3bHXLbrg-00195-00046161-00046342 political undercurrent to all of that as Mpm3bHXLbrg-00196-00046343-00046588 well and I think that as long as those Mpm3bHXLbrg-00197-00046589-00046708 people still know each other the Mpm3bHXLbrg-00198-00046709-00046910 movement always exists and it's networks Mpm3bHXLbrg-00199-00046911-00047218 in its connections it's not latent you Mpm3bHXLbrg-00200-00047219-00047347 know people are still active they're Mpm3bHXLbrg-00201-00047348-00047632 still doing their own act like work and Mpm3bHXLbrg-00202-00047633-00047749 organizing and they're bringing the Mpm3bHXLbrg-00203-00047750-00048010 analysis from occupy to it and I think Mpm3bHXLbrg-00204-00048011-00048208 it really is the first moment it's the Mpm3bHXLbrg-00205-00048209-00048340 first kind of instance we see of Mpm3bHXLbrg-00206-00048341-00048610 intersectional organizing that is taking Mpm3bHXLbrg-00207-00048611-00048811 for its new kind of organizing its we Mpm3bHXLbrg-00208-00048812-00048964 created a space for people to bring all Mpm3bHXLbrg-00209-00048965-00049090 their issues and see how they're tied Mpm3bHXLbrg-00210-00049091-00049309 rather than leading with just one issue Mpm3bHXLbrg-00211-00049310-00049582 or one demand so every from today's New Mpm3bHXLbrg-00212-00049583-00049801 York Times report on the latest census Mpm3bHXLbrg-00213-00049802-00050152 data well Manhattan retained the dubious Mpm3bHXLbrg-00214-00050153-00050413 distinction of having the biggest income Mpm3bHXLbrg-00215-00050414-00050752 gap of any big country in the world any Mpm3bHXLbrg-00216-00050753-00051037 big county in the country the mean Mpm3bHXLbrg-00217-00051038-00051415 income of the lowest fifth was 9635 Mpm3bHXLbrg-00218-00051416-00051698 dollars compared with 389 thousand and Mpm3bHXLbrg-00219-00051699-00051889 seven dollars for the top fifth and said Mpm3bHXLbrg-00220-00051890-00052339 199 969 dollars for the top 5% more than Mpm3bHXLbrg-00221-00052340-00052675 an 80 full difference between bottom and Mpm3bHXLbrg-00222-00052676-00052996 tongue nipple you're now with a group Mpm3bHXLbrg-00223-00052997-00053248 called the other ninety eight percent Mpm3bHXLbrg-00224-00053249-00053644 what's your response to this i mean the Mpm3bHXLbrg-00225-00053645-00053902 beautiful thing about this legacy post Mpm3bHXLbrg-00226-00053903-00054253 occupy is that that is now people see Mpm3bHXLbrg-00227-00054254-00054391 the inequality it was always there and Mpm3bHXLbrg-00228-00054391-00054559 the ninety-eight percent kind of hits on Mpm3bHXLbrg-00229-00054560-00054847 the same topics is occupied economic and Mpm3bHXLbrg-00230-00054848-00055090 equality intersectionality environmental Mpm3bHXLbrg-00231-00055091-00055366 justice and you know racial justice all Mpm3bHXLbrg-00232-00055366-00055639 of those same points that were really Mpm3bHXLbrg-00233-00055640-00055849 articulated through occupier also worked Mpm3bHXLbrg-00234-00055850-00055992 on by the daring ninety-eight percent Mpm3bHXLbrg-00235-00055994-00056275 and so I think that what's amazing about Mpm3bHXLbrg-00236-00056276-00056590 that is that was all true in 2011 but Mpm3bHXLbrg-00237-00056591-00056740 now people have a lens through which to Mpm3bHXLbrg-00238-00056741-00057004 view it and see oh this is unequal this Mpm3bHXLbrg-00239-00057004-00057307 is a systemic issue you wrote a piece in Mpm3bHXLbrg-00240-00057308-00057472 addition to your book thank you enter Mpm3bHXLbrg-00241-00057473-00057666 key Nathan call breaking up with Mpm3bHXLbrg-00242-00057667-00057919 occupying where do you go from here well Mpm3bHXLbrg-00243-00057920-00058177 I think as I've been talking with Mpm3bHXLbrg-00244-00058178-00058378 occupiers spread out around the country Mpm3bHXLbrg-00245-00058379-00058627 I've noticed that there coming to terms Mpm3bHXLbrg-00246-00058628-00058873 with a moment that happened something Mpm3bHXLbrg-00247-00058874-00059091 really important really transformative Mpm3bHXLbrg-00248-00059091-00059314 something that shifted the rhetorical Mpm3bHXLbrg-00249-00059315-00059655 landscape of our country for sure but I Mpm3bHXLbrg-00250-00059657-00059979 think there's still a need to push that Mpm3bHXLbrg-00251-00059980-00060184 further and if we look at the history of Mpm3bHXLbrg-00252-00060185-00060400 movements they never just happened in a Mpm3bHXLbrg-00253-00060401-00060535 few months they happen over the course Mpm3bHXLbrg-00254-00060536-00060745 of years and I think there's a craving Mpm3bHXLbrg-00255-00060746-00061000 among people who were awakened by that Mpm3bHXLbrg-00256-00061001-00061297 moment of the occupations to step it up Mpm3bHXLbrg-00257-00061298-00061558 to a different level to be able to enact Mpm3bHXLbrg-00258-00061559-00061779 the kind of pressure to make their Mpm3bHXLbrg-00259-00061780-00061987 dreams something more like a real I have Mpm3bHXLbrg-00260-00061988-00062161 to leave it there Nathan Schneider your Mpm3bHXLbrg-00261-00062162-00062338 new book Thank You Anarchy notes from Mpm3bHXLbrg-00262-00062339-00062541 the Occupy apocalypse and thank you so Mpm3bHXLbrg-00263-00062542-00062776 much to Nicole cardi who is now with the Mpm3bHXLbrg-00264-00062777-00063251 other ninety eight percent in a facility Mpm3bHXLbrg-00265-00063252-00063458 you MPa9wM3xrd4-00000-00000003-00000292 there's specific programs and government MPa9wM3xrd4-00001-00000293-00000643 they select them and then provide a MPa9wM3xrd4-00002-00000644-00001031 government-funded to the University so MPa9wM3xrd4-00003-00001032-00001541 it's this kind of like a one-way but as MPa9wM3xrd4-00004-00001542-00001923 I mentioned before my model is actually MPa9wM3xrd4-00005-00001925-00002359 called the University they have to MPa9wM3xrd4-00006-00002360-00002617 develop their own MOOC courses and then MPa9wM3xrd4-00007-00002618-00002947 test and revise it and then government MPa9wM3xrd4-00008-00002948-00003454 is kind of rent their course for three MPa9wM3xrd4-00009-00003455-00003722 years of course the government they have MPa9wM3xrd4-00010-00003722-00004226 to pay they give some developing and MPa9wM3xrd4-00011-00004227-00004479 operating fees for three years MPa9wM3xrd4-00012-00004480-00004700 and again the problem that the MPa9wM3xrd4-00013-00004701-00005070 university can revise their courses MPa9wM3xrd4-00014-00005071-00005695 based open that fun like we are MPa9wM3xrd4-00015-00005696-00007646 considering actually so I think maybe MPa9wM3xrd4-00016-00007647-00008135 yes one officers he is in charge of MPa9wM3xrd4-00017-00008136-00009031 chemo and also he MPa9wM3xrd4-00018-00009032-00009325 know we have public selection process we MPa9wM3xrd4-00019-00009326-00009634 have yeah so the university is say and MPa9wM3xrd4-00020-00009635-00010051 maybe University they have to hand in MPa9wM3xrd4-00021-00010052-00010633 some proportion and then the Minister of MPa9wM3xrd4-00022-00010634-00010948 Education they established tentative MPa9wM3xrd4-00023-00010949-00011230 committee selection committee and then MPa9wM3xrd4-00024-00011231-00011757 they evaluate the proposals and then MPa9wM3xrd4-00025-00011758-00012081 finalize which university will MPa9wM3xrd4-00026-00012082-00012745 participate in or not but from this year MPa9wM3xrd4-00027-00012746-00012999 I think from last year actually we as a MPa9wM3xrd4-00028-00013000-00013576 pilot program we invite some non MPa9wM3xrd4-00029-00013577-00013975 participating University to develop the MPa9wM3xrd4-00030-00013976-00014155 MOOC courses and operating for example MPa9wM3xrd4-00031-00014156-00014374 the prompting University they are not MPa9wM3xrd4-00032-00014375-00014722 our member University but they use their MPa9wM3xrd4-00033-00014722-00015655 own funds developing MOOC and operating MPa9wM3xrd4-00034-00015656-00016041 so I think in four areas MPa9wM3xrd4-00035-00016043-00016494 I think the j mo kamo and time o we can MPa9wM3xrd4-00036-00016495-00016921 communicate and exchange and consider MPa9wM3xrd4-00037-00016922-00017857 some possible cooperation how many MPa9wM3xrd4-00038-00017858-00018180 courses intended to be self-paced MPa9wM3xrd4-00039-00018181-00018679 learning in ke moko self-paced you don't MPa9wM3xrd4-00040-00018680-00019009 have so everything would run on schedule MPa9wM3xrd4-00041-00019010-00019609 yes sir master so some courses might be MPa9wM3xrd4-00042-00019610-00019813 offered only one time only and MPa9wM3xrd4-00043-00019814-00019894 disappeared MPa9wM3xrd4-00044-00019895-00020359 yes not disappeared just one up one time MPa9wM3xrd4-00045-00020360-00020929 in a year so at least three years their MPa9wM3xrd4-00046-00020930-00021193 course should be operated at least once MPa9wM3xrd4-00047-00021194-00021825 a year but if the university can US MPa9wM3xrd4-00048-00021826-00022549 government fund they should all point MPa9wM3xrd4-00049-00022550-00022837 yes our actually government regulation MPa9wM3xrd4-00050-00022838-00023062 is our organization so we have a MPa9wM3xrd4-00051-00023063-00023227 contract with the participating MPa9wM3xrd4-00052-00023228-00023488 university and then we have we give some MPa9wM3xrd4-00053-00023489-00024429 kind of duty to the part to put it MPa9wM3xrd4-00054-00024430-00025015 up-up-up rate once a year or twice a MPa9wM3xrd4-00055-00025016-00025591 twice here and then for three years it's MPa9wM3xrd4-00057-00033425-00033712 the office of higher education college MPa9wM3xrd4-00058-00033713-00034234 do you have yes yes but but not MPa9wM3xrd4-00059-00034235-00034585 inclusive mean that the teacher can use MPa9wM3xrd4-00060-00034586-00034828 the the intellectual property in that MPa9wM3xrd4-00061-00034829-00035071 teaching and also they can use for their MPa9wM3xrd4-00062-00035072-00035521 promotion in the economic promotion no MPa9wM3xrd4-00063-00035522-00035797 problem no no need to ask for permission MPa9wM3xrd4-00064-00035798-00036154 but the office of higher education have MPa9wM3xrd4-00065-00036155-00036508 the right to keep and to open open it MPa9wM3xrd4-00066-00036509-00036948 yes the issue is I think you need to MPa9wM3xrd4-00067-00036949-00037332 revise or improve the course because MPa9wM3xrd4-00068-00037333-00037849 like a if a course operated by offered MPa9wM3xrd4-00069-00037850-00038227 it for two years the contents may be out MPa9wM3xrd4-00070-00038228-00038662 of dating so you need to improve or MPa9wM3xrd4-00071-00038663-00039598 update the course how random method and MPa9wM3xrd4-00072-00039599-00039940 as a terms to revise because but now we MPa9wM3xrd4-00073-00039941-00040309 can we can select what caught that very MPa9wM3xrd4-00074-00040310-00040579 popular or famous or the quality is good MPa9wM3xrd4-00075-00040580-00040912 and then we can them to revise the cost MPa9wM3xrd4-00076-00040913-00041238 but with Invisalign the cost we have him MPa9wM3xrd4-00077-00041239-00041649 to provide as a self as mean that any MPa9wM3xrd4-00078-00041650-00041914 learning activity that need the teacher MPa9wM3xrd4-00079-00041915-00042223 interaction we will submit it on the MPa9wM3xrd4-00080-00042224-00042538 course and then repeat has surpassed MPa9wM3xrd4-00081-00042539-00042985 model so learner they can learn by their MPa9wM3xrd4-00083-00061269-00061591 and you need to consider in the future MPa9wM3xrd4-00084-00061591-00062746 this is this kind of MPa9wM3xrd4-00085-00062747-00063265 you mean like also answer or lifelong MPa9wM3xrd4-00086-00063266-00063559 process cause some causes for life from MPa9wM3xrd4-00087-00063560-00064016 learning not exactly MPa9wM3xrd4-00088-00064017-00064482 most of courses are has been have been MPa9wM3xrd4-00089-00064483-00064755 provided by higher education MPa9wM3xrd4-00090-00064757-00065478 institutions yes but some courses is for MPa9wM3xrd4-00091-00065479-00065929 adult learners so we do not have a MPa9wM3xrd4-00092-00065930-00066307 specific courses for specific like a MPa9wM3xrd4-00093-00066308-00066613 lifelong courses we do not have but most MPa9wM3xrd4-00094-00066614-00066949 of courses are utilized and learned by MPa9wM3xrd4-00095-00066950-00067423 adult learners so we say the kamo will MPa9wM3xrd4-00096-00067424-00068680 be a lifelong learning MPa9wM3xrd4-00097-00068681-00069155 sighs some or lifelong learning MPa9wM3xrd4-00098-00069156-00069431 yeah so I should wonder that eople MPa9wM3xrd4-00099-00069432-00069692 lifelong learning you normally left on MPa9wM3xrd4-00100-00069693-00069955 learn learning questions MPa9wM3xrd4-00101-00069956-00070406 not offered by university but our MPa9wM3xrd4-00102-00070407-00070994 regulation to it we have to under MPa9wM3xrd4-00103-00070995-00071327 university and that quite contrast MPa9wM3xrd4-00104-00071328-00071633 because you try to like a make formal MPa9wM3xrd4-00105-00071634-00072176 education to the informal education and MPa9wM3xrd4-00106-00072177-00072416 that's why if Corian doesn't have that MPa9wM3xrd4-00107-00072417-00072755 it then we we cannot we cannot learn MPa9wM3xrd4-00108-00072756-00073451 with love you sorry just just honest on MPa9wM3xrd4-00109-00073452-00073643 this issue I have been thinking about MPa9wM3xrd4-00110-00073644-00074087 the business model for time MOOC in the MPa9wM3xrd4-00111-00074088-00074402 birth of time MOOC one thing that I have MPa9wM3xrd4-00112-00074403-00074708 been thinking office the concept of MPa9wM3xrd4-00113-00074709-00075383 udemy that is sustainable by mass but it MPa9wM3xrd4-00114-00075384-00076070 would become knowledge market not higher MPa9wM3xrd4-00115-00076071-00076328 education not formal degree program a MPa9wM3xrd4-00116-00076329-00076703 lot more practical issue but in Asian MPa9wM3xrd4-00117-00076704-00076886 countries we haven't got something like MPa9wM3xrd4-00118-00076887-00077123 that yet so I'm not quite sure maybe one MPa9wM3xrd4-00119-00077124-00077612 day if we are at the right time thinking MPa9wM3xrd4-00120-00077613-00077932 about this kind of MOOC just for the MPa9wM3xrd4-00121-00077933-00078284 sustainability and for practical courses MPa9wM3xrd4-00122-00078285-00078686 not not for more horses maybe one day we MPa9wM3xrd4-00123-00078687-00079196 will so maybe this year maybe you or MPa9wM3xrd4-00124-00079197-00079646 someone in our platform can organize MPa9wM3xrd4-00125-00079647-00080294 small meeting about this MOOCs MPa9wM3xrd4-00126-00080295-00080705 sustainability so we can consider the MPa9wM3xrd4-00127-00080706-00081257 many propping models like udemy model or MPa9wM3xrd4-00128-00081258-00081617 rent rent models MPa9wM3xrd4-00129-00081618-00081878 social contribution models there are MPa9wM3xrd4-00130-00081879-00082316 lots of models so we cannot uniformly MPa9wM3xrd4-00131-00082317-00082607 apply that model to our platforms but MPa9wM3xrd4-00132-00082608-00083032 still you can have some insight from our MPa9wM3xrd4-00133-00083033-00083607 discussions I think MPa9wM3xrd4-00134-00083608-00083967 hmm yes right that it's kind of a MPa9wM3xrd4-00135-00083968-00084150 conflict yes of course MPa9wM3xrd4-00136-00084151-00084896 but Japan J MOOC has an advantage for MPa9wM3xrd4-00137-00084897-00085344 the profit models because your courses MPa9wM3xrd4-00138-00085345-00085746 most of courses focused on the skill MPa9wM3xrd4-00139-00085747-00085971 development and job related courses so MPa9wM3xrd4-00140-00085972-00086162 you have an advantage MPa9wM3xrd4-00141-00086163-00086690 and also the Cayman will we change our MPa9wM3xrd4-00142-00086691-00087051 course contents into skill development MPa9wM3xrd4-00143-00087052-00087462 and job related courses higher higher MPa9wM3xrd4-00144-00087463-00087803 education contents it's not for MPa9wM3xrd4-00145-00087804-00088329 retraining the company employers so we I MPa9wM3xrd4-00146-00088330-00088626 think the next director of the chemo MPa9wM3xrd4-00147-00088627-00089102 will seriously consider the changing MPa9wM3xrd4-00148-00089103-00089430 contents of our key MOOC otherwise we MPa9wM3xrd4-00149-00089431-00090249 cannot survive yes right yes yes so so MPa9wM3xrd4-00150-00090250-00090519 maybe I think open market can be kind of MPa9wM3xrd4-00151-00090520-00090795 like accommodate yes something like that MPa9wM3xrd4-00152-00090796-00091116 so udemy of course a very good profit MPa9wM3xrd4-00153-00091117-00091644 model but you mentioned some complete or MPa9wM3xrd4-00154-00091645-00092016 even only you open like a public free MPa9wM3xrd4-00155-00092017-00092559 corns for everyone now you asked the MPa9wM3xrd4-00156-00092560-00093247 learners to pay for your course yes MPa9wM3xrd4-00157-00093248-00093904 no ya achieve a fist on Fuji to provide MPa9wM3xrd4-00158-00093905-00094312 a platform called wisdom and some of the MPa9wM3xrd4-00159-00094313-00094642 course is Jane MOOC certificated courses MPa9wM3xrd4-00160-00094643-00095017 but some apply barely registered courses MPa9wM3xrd4-00161-00095018-00095413 and for example some course include how MPa9wM3xrd4-00162-00095414-00095903 to use Microsoft Office product like MPa9wM3xrd4-00163-00095904-00096410 food it has the learning education MPa9wM3xrd4-00164-00096411-00096679 related food it's a group company so we MPa9wM3xrd4-00165-00096680-00096913 asked them to create that kind of MPa9wM3xrd4-00166-00096914-00097294 content and also we have some course for MPa9wM3xrd4-00167-00097295-00097930 the school teachers too about how to MPa9wM3xrd4-00168-00097931-00098347 teach programming in high school or in MPa9wM3xrd4-00169-00098348-00098581 junior high school so that course is MPa9wM3xrd4-00170-00098582-00098844 more related to I think lifelong MPa9wM3xrd4-00171-00098845-00099160 education and a little bit different MPa9wM3xrd4-00172-00099161-00099619 from academia so piece DOM and Japanese MPa9wM3xrd4-00173-00099620-00100210 are platform provider might know some MPa9wM3xrd4-00174-00100211-00100628 kind of business oriented or a lifelong MPa9wM3xrd4-00176-00103692-00104216 yeah MPa9wM3xrd4-00177-00104217-00104790 or others should be below this course MPa9wM3xrd4-00178-00104791-00105052 this course is close to school and if MPa9wM3xrd4-00179-00105053-00105574 the learners finish this and they test MPa9wM3xrd4-00180-00105575-00106041 them if they pass and then they get a MPa9wM3xrd4-00181-00106042-00106290 certificate from your platform or fidget MPa9wM3xrd4-00182-00106291-00106710 and then if they apply four digits maybe MPa9wM3xrd4-00183-00106711-00107056 they may be employing something like MPa9wM3xrd4-00184-00107057-00107599 that so that is Kate course they should MPa9wM3xrd4-00185-00107600-00107968 be paid course not free but it's MPa9wM3xrd4-00186-00107969-00108331 different from the courses that we are MPa9wM3xrd4-00187-00108332-00108856 providing now so that is the nano model MPa9wM3xrd4-00188-00108857-00109254 nano degree model of you decision so the MPa9wM3xrd4-00189-00109255-00109824 company certified approve the courses MPa9wM3xrd4-00190-00109825-00110193 and then actually we are still doing MPa9wM3xrd4-00191-00110194-00110620 brainstorming mean how to earn money MPa9wM3xrd4-00192-00110621-00111171 room platform but another MPa9wM3xrd4-00193-00111172-00111699 another case is recharge the platform MPa9wM3xrd4-00194-00111700-00112398 service fee for the spoke you so if we MPa9wM3xrd4-00195-00112399-00112668 if the university wants to provide MPa9wM3xrd4-00196-00112669-00113073 courses for the massive online then we MPa9wM3xrd4-00197-00113074-00113424 don't charge but if if the university MPa9wM3xrd4-00198-00113425-00114174 want to only fund MOOC they adopt that MPa9wM3xrd4-00199-00114175-00114434 model MPa9wM3xrd4-00200-00114435-00114849 so if a company wants to use that course MPa9wM3xrd4-00201-00114850-00115507 as a spoke they should pay so still we MPa9wM3xrd4-00202-00115508-00116004 still open the course but we can get MPa9wM3xrd4-00203-00116005-00116801 some money MPa9wM3xrd4-00204-00116802-00117038 may be quite different from the Japanese MPa9wM3xrd4-00205-00117039-00117259 because Japanese you have good MPa9wM3xrd4-00206-00117260-00117419 discipline MPa9wM3xrd4-00207-00117420-00117835 for the tie we will we never will pay if MPa9wM3xrd4-00208-00117836-00118249 we can get it for free MPa9wM3xrd4-00209-00118250-00118873 is it may be different on this presense MPa9wM3xrd4-00210-00118874-00119324 and if you if you have choice and if you MPa9wM3xrd4-00211-00119325-00119635 want to use you have to pay and another MPa9wM3xrd4-00212-00119636-00119951 one we can used for free and then for me MPa9wM3xrd4-00213-00119952-00120115 I understand that for company with you MPa9wM3xrd4-00214-00120116-00120650 people to pay duct-tape repo friend but MPa9wM3xrd4-00215-00120651-00120976 I think for tie between undercover see MPa9wM3xrd4-00216-00120977-00121467 we will take everything for free first MPa9wM3xrd4-00217-00121468-00121906 so MPa9wM3xrd4-00218-00121907-00122282 in Japan there are some many many free MPa9wM3xrd4-00219-00122283-00122618 premium models because this so the I MPa9wM3xrd4-00220-00122619-00123038 think the the comp content charge the MPa9wM3xrd4-00221-00123039-00123332 model is the out-of-date so the content MPa9wM3xrd4-00222-00123333-00123599 is serviceable free free over church but MPa9wM3xrd4-00223-00123600-00124250 the certification if you want and so sad MPa9wM3xrd4-00224-00124251-00124760 strong really satified maybe it should MPa9wM3xrd4-00225-00124761-00125348 be searched yes the certificate turn so MPa9wM3xrd4-00226-00125349-00125711 for what if I have a certificate from J MPa9wM3xrd4-00227-00125712-00126035 mu course if some company they MPa9wM3xrd4-00228-00126036-00126407 acknowledged our my certificate it will MPa9wM3xrd4-00229-00126408-00126884 be useful so like a our puppy mothers MPa9wM3xrd4-00230-00126885-00127316 should like go like in tandem with the MPa9wM3xrd4-00231-00127317-00127649 social recognition and you see something MPa9wM3xrd4-00232-00127650-00128093 like that I think that's one of our MPa9wM3xrd4-00233-00128094-00128444 parts models we are considering now so MPa9wM3xrd4-00234-00128445-00128870 we are consider about eleven now so like MPa9wM3xrd4-00235-00128871-00129314 YouTube model and social contribution MPa9wM3xrd4-00236-00129315-00129993 model so if just the big companies they MPa9wM3xrd4-00237-00129994-00130355 develop and operating books for social MPa9wM3xrd4-00238-00130356-00130652 contributions so it means we need to MPa9wM3xrd4-00239-00130653-00130913 find MPa9wM3xrd4-00240-00130914-00131116 identify the company MPa9wM3xrd4-00241-00131117-00131545 and then we appreciate them if you MPa9wM3xrd4-00242-00131546-00131857 upload some contents on our platform you MPa9wM3xrd4-00243-00131858-00132127 have some this kind of benefits blah MPa9wM3xrd4-00244-00132128-00132396 blah blah all right and oh yeah skills MPa9wM3xrd4-00245-00132397-00132862 something like that it's very hard but MPa9wM3xrd4-00246-00132863-00133544 still worse but yes or as the case of MPa9wM3xrd4-00247-00133545-00133834 the Coursera and Udacity like a MPa9wM3xrd4-00248-00133835-00134335 subscription rate month monthly based or MPa9wM3xrd4-00249-00134336-00134994 yearly barefaced subscription but hey MPa9wM3xrd4-00250-00134995-00135309 so this is a problem MPa9wM3xrd4-00251-00135310-00135945 well another question I remember the you MPa9wM3xrd4-00252-00135946-00136419 mentioned before the university would MPa9wM3xrd4-00253-00136420-00136749 direct to create and provide their MPa9wM3xrd4-00254-00136750-00136809 courses MPa9wM3xrd4-00255-00136810-00137713 if you certify that you provide the MPa9wM3xrd4-00256-00137714-00138162 50,000 the USL yes per course and up to MPa9wM3xrd4-00257-00138163-00138399 two courses you provide for the grant MPa9wM3xrd4-00258-00138400-00138870 right first year courses development MPa9wM3xrd4-00259-00138871-00139229 operating PE and second year to record MPa9wM3xrd4-00260-00139230-00139449 three courses development and operating MPa9wM3xrd4-00261-00139450-00140000 team and if last year you develop the MPa9wM3xrd4-00262-00140001-00140336 two courses this year we provide an MPa9wM3xrd4-00263-00140337-00141009 operating fee for the two courses so now MPa9wM3xrd4-00264-00141010-00141416 we don't we are not going to select more MPa9wM3xrd4-00265-00141417-00141779 leading MOOC universities but until last MPa9wM3xrd4-00266-00141780-00142281 year we select 10 University as a MOOC MPa9wM3xrd4-00267-00142282-00142586 leading University so they have kind of MPa9wM3xrd4-00268-00142587-00143114 privilege of every year they get secured MPa9wM3xrd4-00269-00143115-00143525 they look development operating funds MPa9wM3xrd4-00270-00143526-00143840 from government so first year two MPa9wM3xrd4-00271-00143841-00144086 courses second year white three courses MPa9wM3xrd4-00272-00144087-00144369 and thirdly our three courses so in MPa9wM3xrd4-00273-00144370-00145086 total 8 courses and then every year they MPa9wM3xrd4-00274-00145087-00145397 get operating one MPa9wM3xrd4-00275-00145398-00145660 from the government MPa9wM3xrd4-00276-00145661-00146101 not discarded still same same the price MPa9wM3xrd4-00277-00146102-00146665 after three years no puns for operating MPa9wM3xrd4-00278-00146666-00147013 in so that's the problem so we are MPa9wM3xrd4-00279-00147014-00147310 seriously considering introducing the MPa9wM3xrd4-00280-00147311-00147982 profit we only serious already the MPa9wM3xrd4-00281-00147983-00148455 participating university which which MPa9wM3xrd4-00282-00148456-00149083 entered that came in 2015 yes as you can MPa9wM3xrd4-00283-00149084-00149428 see our presentations to Seoul MPa9wM3xrd4-00284-00149429-00149775 Koreans say top-notch universities they MPa9wM3xrd4-00285-00149776-00150498 don't get any further fund promise so MPa9wM3xrd4-00286-00150499-00151009 maybe they drop so you have to introduce MPa9wM3xrd4-00287-00151010-00151717 the via new some monetization method MPa9wM3xrd4-00288-00151718-00152734 from Viet 2019 2020 serious serious MPa9wM3xrd4-00289-00152735-00152800 problems MPa9wM3xrd4-00290-00152801-00153292 really MPa9wM3xrd4-00291-00153293-00153703 so at the end of this year we plan to MPa9wM3xrd4-00292-00153704-00154093 have over 500 courses in our platform MPa9wM3xrd4-00293-00154094-00154585 but 500 is very important granular MPa9wM3xrd4-00294-00154586-00154885 kitchens numbers key yes it's kind of MPa9wM3xrd4-00295-00154886-00155317 entry very important and 2020 maybe MPa9wM3xrd4-00296-00155318-00155680 about thousand courses but I'm not sure MPa9wM3xrd4-00297-00155681-00156428 how can secure that those MPa9wM3xrd4-00298-00156429-00156807 and also after three years the courses MPa9wM3xrd4-00299-00156808-00157199 developed in the last three years out of MPa9wM3xrd4-00300-00157200-00157739 18 so we need to improve their the MPa9wM3xrd4-00301-00157740-00158178 courses so we have no fun MPa9wM3xrd4-00302-00158179-00158522 it's really MPa9wM3xrd4-00303-00158523-00159220 or recurring issues MPa9wM3xrd4-00304-00159221-00159753 yes but from from this coming Mars the MPa9wM3xrd4-00305-00159754-00160116 courses which are which were interred on MPa9wM3xrd4-00306-00160117-00160282 in 2015 MPa9wM3xrd4-00307-00160283-00160835 27 courses will not operate anymore MPa9wM3xrd4-00308-00160836-00161257 actually we lost we have lost already 27 MPa9wM3xrd4-00309-00161258-00162360 course so currently now so the 10 MPa9wM3xrd4-00310-00162361-00162897 University they asked us to find out MPa9wM3xrd4-00311-00162898-00163464 some way of supporting their courses MPa9wM3xrd4-00312-00163465-00164162 operating MPa9wM3xrd4-00313-00164163-00164474 no they don't they don't most of them MPa9wM3xrd4-00314-00164475-00164825 they'd only because of the mystic MPa9wM3xrd4-00315-00164826-00165940 restricted pond MPa9wM3xrd4-00316-00165941-00166239 but still they they need some funda to MPa9wM3xrd4-00317-00166240-00167285 give the king MPa9wM3xrd4-00318-00167286-00167576 how can you motivate your high MPa9wM3xrd4-00319-00167577-00167941 universities to continue operating MPa9wM3xrd4-00320-00167942-00168281 courses I don't know but for my course I MPa9wM3xrd4-00321-00168282-00168818 haven't got paid but you should give MPa9wM3xrd4-00322-00168819-00169307 some no no not not only me that is a MPa9wM3xrd4-00323-00169308-00169772 delay because we need to get the money MPa9wM3xrd4-00324-00169773-00170029 at the bunch with al-qasas so this is MPa9wM3xrd4-00325-00170030-00170273 not a campaign but the driving force is MPa9wM3xrd4-00326-00170274-00170603 not about the money it is about knowing MPa9wM3xrd4-00327-00170604-00170849 how to teach time MOOC and be able to MPa9wM3xrd4-00328-00170850-00171386 continue with this I'm not sure if for MPa9wM3xrd4-00329-00171387-00171536 time MOOC we are talking now about MPa9wM3xrd4-00330-00171537-00171911 gamification for time MOOC it it is MPa9wM3xrd4-00331-00171912-00172382 going to be one of the integral part I'm MPa9wM3xrd4-00332-00172383-00172718 not sure if Japan MOOC and curry move to MPa9wM3xrd4-00333-00172719-00172928 have gamification and features for MPa9wM3xrd4-00334-00172929-00173182 example certain kind of badges or MPa9wM3xrd4-00335-00173183-00173565 certain ways how to motivate learners MPa9wM3xrd4-00336-00173566-00173979 for intrinsic motivation if so then I MPa9wM3xrd4-00337-00173980-00174314 would like to hear from you and if MPa9wM3xrd4-00338-00174315-00174706 possible maybe if we can think of common MPa9wM3xrd4-00339-00174707-00175097 gamification system so we can encourage MPa9wM3xrd4-00340-00175098-00175378 our learners in the same direction for MPa9wM3xrd4-00341-00175379-00175637 example if we utilize open badges from MPa9wM3xrd4-00342-00175638-00175940 open passionate oag then that is a kind MPa9wM3xrd4-00343-00175941-00176363 of unification format so we can utilize MPa9wM3xrd4-00344-00176364-00176786 that to to promote our courses together MPa9wM3xrd4-00345-00176787-00177209 and also for the provider the provider MPa9wM3xrd4-00346-00177210-00177503 can also get some kind of badges so it MPa9wM3xrd4-00347-00177504-00177778 will be meaning to them if they MPa9wM3xrd4-00348-00177779-00178052 contributed many good causes good MPa9wM3xrd4-00349-00178053-00178370 content they get one kind of bash so I'm MPa9wM3xrd4-00350-00178371-00179384 not sure if you you have we select the MPa9wM3xrd4-00351-00179385-00179619 best courses and best MPa9wM3xrd4-00352-00179620-00180183 look based on some indicator and from MPa9wM3xrd4-00353-00180184-00180456 this year we will it's kind of like MPa9wM3xrd4-00354-00180457-00181052 amazon.com cookbook so with the ask MPa9wM3xrd4-00355-00181053-00181485 learners to evaluate the chords so put MPa9wM3xrd4-00356-00181486-00181884 some stars and then they can write a MPa9wM3xrd4-00357-00181885-00182628 review and then maybe I'm not sure but MPa9wM3xrd4-00358-00182629-00183284 they will give some patch to the line MPa9wM3xrd4-00359-00183285-00183720 yes yes public yes it's kind of MPa9wM3xrd4-00360-00183721-00184207 evaluation of courses MPa9wM3xrd4-00361-00184208-00184597 for learners MPa9wM3xrd4-00362-00184598-00185016 not ours not us they can take and choose MPa9wM3xrd4-00363-00185017-00185613 on the basis of review it will require MPa9wM3xrd4-00364-00185614-00185976 further investigation it's not like when MPa9wM3xrd4-00365-00185977-00186216 you enroll in Khan Academy where you MPa9wM3xrd4-00366-00186217-00186465 pass one course then you get higher MPa9wM3xrd4-00367-00186466-00186840 batch if you has very well Highmark MPa9wM3xrd4-00368-00186841-00187062 high score you get another kind of bash MPa9wM3xrd4-00369-00187063-00187978 so it's not like that MPa9wM3xrd4-00370-00187979-00188641 and also in terms of course design I MPa9wM3xrd4-00371-00188642-00188926 think Dave gamification is one of the MPa9wM3xrd4-00372-00188927-00189427 essential picture of course design so MPa9wM3xrd4-00373-00189428-00189730 some low courses in Coursera and some MPa9wM3xrd4-00374-00189731-00190003 some courses they use they adopt the MPa9wM3xrd4-00375-00190004-00190691 gamification on their course design MPa9wM3xrd4-00376-00190692-00191168 so learners they can like enter and MPa9wM3xrd4-00377-00191169-00191695 follow and they can make something to me MPa9wM3xrd4-00378-00191696-00191927 with this more than a little bit more MPa9wM3xrd4-00379-00191928-00192110 than that for example we can identify MPa9wM3xrd4-00380-00192111-00192491 which learner tend to be serious learner MPa9wM3xrd4-00381-00192492-00192779 this group of learners tend to finish MPa9wM3xrd4-00382-00192780-00192868 the course MPa9wM3xrd4-00383-00192869-00193208 another group window-shopping another MPa9wM3xrd4-00384-00193209-00193534 cook just login for the sake of of MPa9wM3xrd4-00385-00193535-00193931 having that name in the cost list there MPa9wM3xrd4-00386-00193932-00194093 would be four groups of people actually MPa9wM3xrd4-00387-00194094-00194489 so so we can then predict so many things MPa9wM3xrd4-00388-00194490-00194849 predict number of people who really pass MPa9wM3xrd4-00389-00194850-00195134 then we can allocate enough resource in MPa9wM3xrd4-00390-00195135-00195356 advance so that would be one thing and MPa9wM3xrd4-00391-00195357-00195605 of course we can identify stock horses MPa9wM3xrd4-00392-00195606-00196097 star tutor star lecturers so four-time MPa9wM3xrd4-00393-00196098-00196391 MOOC we see this one as a big potential MPa9wM3xrd4-00394-00196392-00196700 but in terms of implementation it would MPa9wM3xrd4-00395-00196701-00196973 be challenging not quite sure yet how to MPa9wM3xrd4-00396-00196974-00197369 do that but I hope that since this is a MPa9wM3xrd4-00397-00197370-00197579 kind of collaboration between Japan MPa9wM3xrd4-00398-00197580-00197882 Korea and Thailand MOOC if we can think MPa9wM3xrd4-00399-00197883-00198089 of something in the same direction to MPa9wM3xrd4-00400-00198090-00198458 begin with and then maybe in a few years MPa9wM3xrd4-00401-00198459-00198779 from now we may have something that we MPa9wM3xrd4-00402-00198780-00199250 can utilize in common like you you have MPa9wM3xrd4-00403-00199251-00199558 to break down our area of cooperation MPa9wM3xrd4-00404-00199559-00199912 into very small ones like a MPa9wM3xrd4-00405-00199913-00200333 communication and profit model something MPa9wM3xrd4-00406-00200334-00200737 like that so I mentioned like around 12 MPa9wM3xrd4-00407-00200738-00201322 well issues area of issues issue area so MPa9wM3xrd4-00408-00201323-00201535 we can break down on each and then we MPa9wM3xrd4-00409-00201536-00201816 have small workshop and then we consider MPa9wM3xrd4-00410-00201817-00201898 together MPa9wM3xrd4-00411-00201899-00202657 and then maybe one performs they apply MPa9wM3xrd4-00412-00202658-00202939 adopt first and then maybe other MPa9wM3xrd4-00413-00202940-00203272 platform maybe later because it depends MPa9wM3xrd4-00414-00203273-00204139 on the local context so this MPa9wM3xrd4-00415-00204140-00204404 not be here this morning so I miss out MPa9wM3xrd4-00416-00204405-00204683 of your presentations I'm not quite sure MPa9wM3xrd4-00417-00204684-00204988 when you said 12 areas of cooperation MPa9wM3xrd4-00418-00204989-00205319 would that already have gamification in MPa9wM3xrd4-00419-00205319-00206363 it or keep some an orange star professor MPa9wM3xrd4-00420-00206364-00207200 and course but in the 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MPa9wM3xrd4-00434-00212619-00212996 some interested from professor in MPa9wM3xrd4-00435-00212998-00213435 Versailles to find some new way of MPa9wM3xrd4-00436-00213436-00213732 teaching or new strategy or teaching you MPa9wM3xrd4-00437-00213733-00214005 think Emma situation may be that another MPa9wM3xrd4-00438-00214006-00214459 possibility MPa9wM3xrd4-00439-00214460-00215065 I wish allow me to back to my last MPa9wM3xrd4-00440-00215066-00215607 saliva of course about the area of MPa9wM3xrd4-00441-00215608-00216042 collaborative activities I would like to MPa9wM3xrd4-00442-00216044-00216394 to ask you to consider one by one for MPa9wM3xrd4-00443-00216396-00216665 example each an exiting heart is as MPa9wM3xrd4-00444-00216666-00217126 possible I mean that we we exchange the MPa9wM3xrd4-00445-00217127-00217579 cost that we have already in our MOOC MPa9wM3xrd4-00446-00217580-00217846 system but this freedom MPa9wM3xrd4-00447-00217848-00218144 maybe we can select on some criteria for 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MPa9wM3xrd4-00547-00280085-00280471 fourth and MPa9wM3xrd4-00548-00280472-00280771 and then MPa9wM3xrd4-00549-00280772-00281212 we we have a we have a proposal for a MPa9wM3xrd4-00550-00281213-00281977 linear type of arena MPa9wM3xrd4-00552-00285223-00285513 what is that the target of this court MPa9wM3xrd4-00553-00285514-00285789 for the foreign foreign air let go to MPa9wM3xrd4-00554-00285790-00287081 Korean in Thailand there is a Korean MPa9wM3xrd4-00555-00287082-00287289 education and cultural center nearby MPa9wM3xrd4-00556-00287290-00287783 here they're responsible for teaching : MPa9wM3xrd4-00557-00287784-00288027 language to many Thai people for MPa9wM3xrd4-00558-00288028-00288378 different reasons first Thai wife Thai MPa9wM3xrd4-00559-00288379-00288659 women get married to Korean guy before MPa9wM3xrd4-00560-00288660-00288881 they can migrate to Korea they have to MPa9wM3xrd4-00561-00288882-00289215 pass as a level of examination and two MPa9wM3xrd4-00562-00289216-00289551 years ago topic base and three years ago MPa9wM3xrd4-00563-00289552-00289855 I see on cyber University project did MPa9wM3xrd4-00564-00289856-00290289 Commission's Korea's cyber university to MPa9wM3xrd4-00565-00290290-00291460 create some content already available MPa9wM3xrd4-00566-00291461-00291774 no but this is government by Korean MPa9wM3xrd4-00567-00291775-00291939 government so it has that kind of MPa9wM3xrd4-00568-00291940-00292248 privilege so if it is not just by any MPa9wM3xrd4-00569-00292249-00292454 school it is by Korean government MPa9wM3xrd4-00570-00292455-00292706 entrustment level is very high second MPa9wM3xrd4-00571-00292707-00292968 thing is there to a guide tied to a kind MPa9wM3xrd4-00572-00292969-00293301 who look after Korean tourists tight MPa9wM3xrd4-00573-00293302-00293544 work I do already have permit but they MPa9wM3xrd4-00574-00293545-00293727 don't really understand Korean culture MPa9wM3xrd4-00575-00293728-00293927 so they could not look after Korean MPa9wM3xrd4-00576-00293928-00294203 people were enough so they have another MPa9wM3xrd4-00577-00294204-00294495 kind of program but they cannot cope the MPa9wM3xrd4-00578-00294496-00294768 office is small they could not train MPa9wM3xrd4-00579-00294769-00295098 enough so they need something like this MPa9wM3xrd4-00580-00295099-00295314 so if we can have something in common MPa9wM3xrd4-00581-00295315-00295626 that they can utilize well I think we MPa9wM3xrd4-00582-00295627-00296105 already have market yes yes from from MPa9wM3xrd4-00583-00296106-00296319 this Center under Korean government MPa9wM3xrd4-00584-00296320-00299099 maybe in partnership with our initiative MPa9wM3xrd4-00585-00299100-00299563 I think for the Japanese academia site MPa9wM3xrd4-00586-00299564-00299996 one of the motivation might be to get MPa9wM3xrd4-00587-00299997-00300320 more following student from for example MPa9wM3xrd4-00588-00300321-00300755 Korea or Thailand studying in Japan so I MPa9wM3xrd4-00589-00300756-00301031 think the beginner level of their MPa9wM3xrd4-00590-00301032-00301435 Japanese language course might be good MPa9wM3xrd4-00591-00301436-00301844 for not for only for the course learners MPa9wM3xrd4-00592-00301845-00302105 but also the host provider University MPa9wM3xrd4-00593-00302106-00304293 can also benefit MPa9wM3xrd4-00594-00304294-00304701 I would like to suggest that may be a MPa9wM3xrd4-00595-00304702-00305097 bit difficult because you have many very MPa9wM3xrd4-00596-00305098-00305373 strong copyright issues in Japanese and MPa9wM3xrd4-00597-00305374-00305670 maybe in Korean also so maybe difficult MPa9wM3xrd4-00598-00305671-00305967 to to exchange MPa9wM3xrd4-00599-00305968-00306260 I mean to upload the content in other MPa9wM3xrd4-00600-00306261-00306588 platform MPa9wM3xrd4-00601-00306589-00306806 differing from from from Europe your own MPa9wM3xrd4-00602-00306807-00306878 headphone MPa9wM3xrd4-00603-00306879-00307176 maybe we can starting from you open and MPa9wM3xrd4-00604-00307177-00307494 allow higher country people to learn MPa9wM3xrd4-00605-00307495-00307767 from your platform but have had some MPa9wM3xrd4-00606-00307768-00308309 special conditions to allow from the MPa9wM3xrd4-00607-00308310-00309041 phone MPa9wM3xrd4-00608-00309042-00309440 anybody want me yes right anybody people MPa9wM3xrd4-00609-00309441-00310380 for New Year's right MPa9wM3xrd4-00610-00310381-00310842 it's a very limited courses but some MPa9wM3xrd4-00611-00310843-00311049 course is provided in English in from MPa9wM3xrd4-00612-00311050-00311591 Japan Japanese Japanese patents and MPa9wM3xrd4-00613-00311592-00312174 wisdom course of provided the English MPa9wM3xrd4-00614-00312175-00312654 courses there as a first course and the MPa9wM3xrd4-00615-00312655-00312807 training course the open language MPa9wM3xrd4-00616-00312808-00313149 Japan's or so they can provide not only MPa9wM3xrd4-00617-00313150-00313407 the Japanese English and maybe Korean MPa9wM3xrd4-00618-00313408-00315714 the Chinese MPa9wM3xrd4-00619-00315715-00315993 luxury for the Brahmin and the Muslim MPa9wM3xrd4-00620-00315994-00316326 said the progeny is a university person MPa9wM3xrd4-00621-00316327-00316725 the aim is to get more student from MPa9wM3xrd4-00622-00316726-00317013 their foreign countries so to rewrite MPa9wM3xrd4-00623-00317014-00317660 that the better way is to provide from MPa9wM3xrd4-00624-00317661-00318012 the those countries bottom like a Korea MPa9wM3xrd4-00625-00318013-00318675 and China I just worry about your copy MPa9wM3xrd4-00626-00318676-00318948 like human but is it possible this is MPa9wM3xrd4-00627-00318949-00319202 the best best way we can change and MPa9wM3xrd4-00628-00319203-00320964 provide with our own platform MPa9wM3xrd4-00629-00320965-00321444 the possible activity okay I could good MPa9wM3xrd4-00630-00321445-00321540 night MPa9wM3xrd4-00631-00321541-00322106 go to the next perk or do we can do a MPa9wM3xrd4-00632-00322107-00322473 chorus of comparative research this is MPa9wM3xrd4-00633-00322474-00322733 the topic that we mentioned in this MPa9wM3xrd4-00634-00322734-00323118 morning about quality excellent evil MPa9wM3xrd4-00635-00323119-00323429 possible maybe we nominate the MPa9wM3xrd4-00636-00323430-00323723 researcher from East platform and maybe MPa9wM3xrd4-00637-00323724-00324546 they can work together and yeah MPa9wM3xrd4-00638-00324547-00325445 yeah MPa9wM3xrd4-00639-00325446-00326598 the procedure MPa9wM3xrd4-00640-00326599-00327149 to share the current version of their MPa9wM3xrd4-00641-00327150-00327501 cost guiding each other we agree with MPa9wM3xrd4-00642-00327502-00328156 that MPa9wM3xrd4-00643-00328157-00328844 so MPa9wM3xrd4-00644-00328845-00329356 from from time aside the head of the MPa9wM3xrd4-00645-00329357-00329591 researcher maybe dr. Provine yeah but MPa9wM3xrd4-00646-00329592-00329969 maybe more researcher from Tyson but you MPa9wM3xrd4-00647-00329970-00331459 can nominate MPa9wM3xrd4-00648-00331460-00331897 I think we can do it just only provide MPa9wM3xrd4-00649-00331898-00332272 our current version so it's very MPa9wM3xrd4-00650-00332273-00332608 difficult to translate from now in a MPa9wM3xrd4-00651-00332609-00332974 short time MPa9wM3xrd4-00652-00332975-00334171 no just a Japanese only okay MPa9wM3xrd4-00653-00334172-00334531 I think if you have any researcher you MPa9wM3xrd4-00654-00334532-00334786 know the teacher faculty member in the MPa9wM3xrd4-00655-00334787-00334990 university that interest in this area MPa9wM3xrd4-00656-00334991-00335239 you can nominate that they can work MPa9wM3xrd4-00657-00335240-00335746 together so but the it's my at the MPa9wM3xrd4-00658-00335747-00336034 moment my personal in your level but we MPa9wM3xrd4-00659-00336035-00336376 are not trying to make the translation MPa9wM3xrd4-00660-00336377-00336979 in a Jamie coffees the current version MPa9wM3xrd4-00661-00336980-00337356 to the English but after the discussion MPa9wM3xrd4-00662-00337357-00337759 the at the moment we can I cannot MPa9wM3xrd4-00663-00337760-00338412 promise MPa9wM3xrd4-00664-00338413-00338688 okay so I will symbolize that this is MPa9wM3xrd4-00665-00338689-00339045 another possibility to and will be lit MPa9wM3xrd4-00666-00339046-00339321 by read by time or research online and MPa9wM3xrd4-00667-00339322-00339786 then ot mo ang mo kio provide the color MPa9wM3xrd4-00668-00339787-00340265 in maybe in English English version and MPa9wM3xrd4-00669-00340266-00340554 providing support for the time MPa9wM3xrd4-00671-00351096-00351484 thank you so how about analyte analyzer MPa9wM3xrd4-00672-00351485-00351875 and learning behavior in our cooperating MPa9wM3xrd4-00674-00359035-00359407 have you suggested maybe when the Korea MPa9wM3xrd4-00675-00359408-00359662 University open the more cars maybe MPa9wM3xrd4-00677-00363807-00364120 tomorrow in the abstinence session I MPa9wM3xrd4-00678-00364121-00364505 have you care about our symbolized in MPa9wM3xrd4-00679-00364506-00364709 this session and with true program MPa9wM3xrd4-00680-00364710-00365009 together maybe we can some align our MPa9wM3xrd4-00681-00365010-00365273 conclusion some possible activity with MPa9wM3xrd4-00682-00365274-00365501 with the agreement from our stakeholders MPa9wM3xrd4-00683-00365502-00366538 carpeting MPa9wM3xrd4-00684-00366539-00366867 okay and the regarding their running MPa9wM3xrd4-00685-00366868-00367508 analytics people in Japan will start the MPa9wM3xrd4-00686-00367509-00367802 research group or the running analytics MPa9wM3xrd4-00687-00367803-00368574 at the moment the biggest group of the MPa9wM3xrd4-00688-00368575-00368842 Reina Valera texting Japanese nervously MPa9wM3xrd4-00689-00368843-00369674 this is Cote University and the riddler MPa9wM3xrd4-00690-00369675-00369967 running analytics center in Kyoto MPa9wM3xrd4-00691-00369968-00370065 University MPa9wM3xrd4-00692-00370066-00370499 agreed to cooperate with the agenda so MPa9wM3xrd4-00693-00370500-00371550 we like to join that for the project as MPa9wM3xrd4-00694-00371551-00373561 there are research projects cooperation MPa9wM3xrd4-00695-00373562-00373792 it mean that men had a time up Cory MPa9wM3xrd4-00696-00373793-00373948 University Rhonda book MPa9wM3xrd4-00697-00373949-00374206 Rhonda more cars maybe with any custom MPa9wM3xrd4-00698-00374207-00375162 still came from MPa9wM3xrd4-00699-00375163-00375387 take a Cosmo Cordia MPa9wM3xrd4-00700-00375388-00375846 yeah so the tree nation to country MPa9wM3xrd4-00701-00375847-00376083 students learn the same past same cost MPa9wM3xrd4-00702-00376084-00378375 and then we will see what will happen MPa9wM3xrd4-00703-00378376-00380672 okay MPa9wM3xrd4-00704-00380673-00380980 yes you can conduct a really small MPa9wM3xrd4-00705-00380981-00381323 expert meeting consultative meeting MPa9wM3xrd4-00706-00381324-00381706 something and a faculty member that MPa9wM3xrd4-00707-00381707-00381902 participated in this project you can MPa9wM3xrd4-00708-00381903-00382081 discuss about your result and maybe MPa9wM3xrd4-00709-00382082-00383479 co-published some ethical Channel yeah MPa9wM3xrd4-00710-00383480-00383902 okay so I bought two possible agenda MPa9wM3xrd4-00711-00383903-00384237 then the turret agenda I think I MPa9wM3xrd4-00712-00384238-00384520 couldn't have your Chi mission saying if MPa9wM3xrd4-00713-00384521-00384849 you are out daughter so you have any MPa9wM3xrd4-00714-00384850-00386284 idea about cohorts and SEM or as a more MPa9wM3xrd4-00715-00386285-00387909 Porthos take right MPa9wM3xrd4-00716-00387910-00388326 if they it is a DSM looks first as a mr. MPa9wM3xrd4-00717-00388327-00388390 Cruthers MPa9wM3xrd4-00718-00388391-00388840 Samet be a chemical host that they are MPa9wM3xrd4-00720-00392592-00393301 okay MPa9wM3xrd4-00721-00393302-00393400 Oh MPa9wM3xrd4-00722-00393401-00394437 [Music] MPa9wM3xrd4-00723-00394438-00395248 every way every year anyway oh I have to MPa9wM3xrd4-00724-00395249-00396753 so in the middle here MPa9wM3xrd4-00725-00396754-00397075 it's a long case study for the open MPa9wM3xrd4-00726-00397076-00397414 education consortium and your meeting it MPa9wM3xrd4-00727-00397415-00397957 is that from the mm actuary mm AB six or MPa9wM3xrd4-00728-00397958-00398005 something MPa9wM3xrd4-00729-00398006-00398314 so the first three years the Utah State MPa9wM3xrd4-00730-00398315-00398778 University hosted the after the MPa9wM3xrd4-00731-00398779-00399258 organization launched the the host MPa9wM3xrd4-00732-00399259-00399627 University changed rotated rotation MPa9wM3xrd4-00733-00399628-00400289 rotated system the first host company MPa9wM3xrd4-00734-00400290-00400531 was that Japan the acute University MPa9wM3xrd4-00735-00400532-00401001 hosted that in 2000 it is 2006 MPa9wM3xrd4-00736-00401002-00401912 so maybe 2004 six four five the three MPa9wM3xrd4-00737-00401913-00402223 four five so you use the university MPa9wM3xrd4-00738-00402224-00402654 instead then the many University hosted MPa9wM3xrd4-00739-00402655-00403347 actually the this year yet the MPa9wM3xrd4-00740-00403348-00403555 technological university of Delta tu MPa9wM3xrd4-00742-00414545-00415149 okay MPa9wM3xrd4-00743-00415150-00415439 okay so how can i summarize the third MPa9wM3xrd4-00745-00419447-00419797 which are aware former representative so MPa9wM3xrd4-00747-00426534-00427076 so I have a assemble I that we you have MPa9wM3xrd4-00748-00427077-00427543 a nest neck nesting in - neck misting MPa9wM3xrd4-00749-00427545-00427813 hopper has to be I can has a more MPa9wM3xrd4-00750-00427814-00430589 confident maybe on me 2018 right MPa9wM3xrd4-00751-00430589-00431809 mei-mei our October October life MPa9wM3xrd4-00752-00431810-00432010 okay MPa9wM3xrd4-00753-00432010-00432160 kekeke okay MPa9wM3xrd4-00754-00432162-00432421 well MPa9wM3xrd4-00755-00432422-00433066 I think I need coachable okay I this is MPa9wM3xrd4-00756-00433067-00433450 all these free herself from like that we MPa9wM3xrd4-00757-00433451-00433735 have already discussed you have helped MPa9wM3xrd4-00758-00433736-00434564 over so to to propose me the there has MPa9wM3xrd4-00759-00434564-00434845 been a discussion since last year that MPa9wM3xrd4-00760-00434846-00435231 Malaysia MOOC would like to also join us MPa9wM3xrd4-00761-00435232-00436762 JMO JMO time MOOC but and also yes yes I MPa9wM3xrd4-00762-00436763-00438171 know yes welcome no problem to MPa9wM3xrd4-00763-00438172-00438643 opportunities here they are happier MPa9wM3xrd4-00764-00438644-00439622 there's no more platform MPa9wM3xrd4-00765-00439622-00440078 so we how can we study do we have to MPa9wM3xrd4-00766-00440079-00440426 invite by our sera we take the MPa9wM3xrd4-00767-00440427-00440666 opportunity of as a MOOC to discuss MPa9wM3xrd4-00769-00446834-00447087 and the final MPa9wM3xrd4-00770-00447088-00447539 practically in the East Asian region the MPa9wM3xrd4-00773-00466732-00467281 we we have a discussion and we still MPa9wM3xrd4-00774-00467282-00467589 consider that we have to to carefully MPa9wM3xrd4-00775-00467590-00467922 think about it but very positive I think MPa9wM3xrd4-00776-00467923-00468312 very positive but a team and many MPa9wM3xrd4-00777-00468313-00468789 resources and also time that we have to MPa9wM3xrd4-00778-00468790-00469120 contribute but very very good thing that MPa9wM3xrd4-00779-00469121-00469479 we should to read everything about have MPa9wM3xrd4-00780-00469480-00469791 a internal meeting but this year in this MPa9wM3xrd4-00781-00469792-00470154 year CCU you have many activity MPa9wM3xrd4-00782-00470155-00470493 including many expert forum some MPa9wM3xrd4-00783-00470494-00470743 accomplished journalist so maybe there's MPa9wM3xrd4-00784-00470743-00471118 a good opportunity to to take that that MPa9wM3xrd4-00785-00471118-00471747 even some meeting and we will be across MPa9wM3xrd4-00786-00471748-00472014 we will let you know very first person MPa9wM3xrd4-00787-00472015-00472422 have to be my decision okay so at least MPa9wM3xrd4-00788-00472423-00472722 we have two possible collaborative MPa9wM3xrd4-00789-00472723-00473095 activities together maybe more in the MPa9wM3xrd4-00790-00473096-00473535 future okay I think we work very hard MPa9wM3xrd4-00791-00473536-00473918 and from one local and union folk rock MPa9wM3xrd4-00792-00473919-00474285 without any break we serve we break MPa9wM3xrd4-00793-00474286-00474652 inside the room so do you have any point MPa9wM3xrd4-00794-00474653-00475179 to suggest to convene or to recommend MPa9wM3xrd4-00796-00479231-00479769 okay so I think the really tired now so MPa9wM3xrd4-00797-00479770-00480070 please take some rest we will have MPa9wM3xrd4-00798-00480071-00480433 dinner together on 6 o clock in the same MPa9wM3xrd4-00799-00480434-00480955 prayers Atlanta six today you see ya MPa9wM3xrd4-00800-00480956-00481279 so you knew we have some time to walk MPa9wM3xrd4-00802-00486588-00486934 [Music] MPcntT8OS6I-00000-00000030-00000434 George Edwin Mueller July 16th 1918 to MPcntT8OS6I-00001-00000436-00000696 October 12 2015 was an American MPcntT8OS6I-00002-00000697-00000897 electrical engineer who was an associate MPcntT8OS6I-00003-00000898-00001089 administrator at NASA who headed the MPcntT8OS6I-00004-00001090-00001257 office of manned spaceflight from MPcntT8OS6I-00005-00001258-00001638 September 1963 until December 1969 MPcntT8OS6I-00006-00001639-00001950 haled is one of NASA's most brilliant MPcntT8OS6I-00007-00001951-00002187 and fearless managers he was MPcntT8OS6I-00008-00002188-00002388 instrumental in introducing the all up MPcntT8OS6I-00009-00002389-00002592 testing philosophy for the Saturn V MPcntT8OS6I-00010-00002593-00002801 launch vehicle which ensured the success MPcntT8OS6I-00011-00002802-00002984 of the Apollo program in landing a man MPcntT8OS6I-00012-00002985-00003185 on the moon and returning him safely to MPcntT8OS6I-00013-00003186-00003561 the earth by the end of 1969 Muller also MPcntT8OS6I-00014-00003561-00003704 played a key part in the design of MPcntT8OS6I-00015-00003705-00003938 Skylab and championed the space shuttles MPcntT8OS6I-00016-00003939-00004064 development which earned him the MPcntT8OS6I-00017-00004065-00004410 nickname the father of the space shuttle MPcntT8OS6I-00018-00004411-00004641 more recently Muller was chairman and MPcntT8OS6I-00019-00004642-00004803 chief vehicle architect of the MPcntT8OS6I-00020-00004804-00005297 now-defunct Kistler aerospace Corp MPcntT8OS6I-00021-00005298-00005891 topic early life in education MPcntT8OS6I-00022-00005892-00006109 George Mueller was born in st. Louis MPcntT8OS6I-00023-00006110-00006556 Missouri on July 16th 1918 his mother a MPcntT8OS6I-00024-00006558-00006760 high school graduate was from Belleville MPcntT8OS6I-00025-00006761-00006977 Illinois and had been a secretary but MPcntT8OS6I-00026-00006978-00007130 she never worked after marriage MPcntT8OS6I-00027-00007131-00007384 his father was an electrician who began MPcntT8OS6I-00028-00007386-00007580 working as a boy and never went to high MPcntT8OS6I-00029-00007581-00007763 school but later became superintendent MPcntT8OS6I-00030-00007764-00008002 of an electrical motor repair shop in MPcntT8OS6I-00031-00008003-00008258 st. Louis both parents were English MPcntT8OS6I-00032-00008259-00008503 speakers but also spoke German Muller MPcntT8OS6I-00033-00008504-00008663 never learned German well enough to MPcntT8OS6I-00034-00008664-00008957 converse he went to Benton School in st. MPcntT8OS6I-00035-00008958-00009166 Louis until the eighth grade when he and MPcntT8OS6I-00036-00009167-00009368 his parents moved to a larger house in MPcntT8OS6I-00037-00009369-00009548 the country called Belle Noir and later MPcntT8OS6I-00038-00009549-00009863 graduated from Normandy high school the MPcntT8OS6I-00039-00009864-00010046 young Mueller enjoyed reading science MPcntT8OS6I-00040-00010047-00010202 fiction and helped by his grandfather MPcntT8OS6I-00041-00010203-00010535 woodworking when he was aged 11 or 12 MPcntT8OS6I-00042-00010536-00010741 Muller also built and raced model MPcntT8OS6I-00043-00010742-00010969 aircraft such as gliders and rubber band MPcntT8OS6I-00044-00010970-00011285 model airplanes always curious about how MPcntT8OS6I-00045-00011286-00011471 things worked he also built radios MPcntT8OS6I-00046-00011472-00011703 following in the footsteps of his father MPcntT8OS6I-00047-00011704-00011927 interested in these activities the MPcntT8OS6I-00048-00011928-00012077 teenage Muller wanted to be an MPcntT8OS6I-00049-00012078-00012271 aeronautical engineer but discovered MPcntT8OS6I-00050-00012272-00012409 that where he could afford to go to MPcntT8OS6I-00051-00012410-00012631 school the Missouri School of Mines and MPcntT8OS6I-00052-00012632-00012844 metallurgy now Missouri University of MPcntT8OS6I-00053-00012845-00013109 Science and Technology in Rolla Missouri MPcntT8OS6I-00054-00013110-00013286 there was no aeronautical engineering MPcntT8OS6I-00055-00013287-00013538 department they did offer mechanical MPcntT8OS6I-00056-00013538-00013706 engineering so he enrolled in that MPcntT8OS6I-00057-00013707-00013909 program but found it discouraging and MPcntT8OS6I-00058-00013910-00014109 switched to electrical engineering MPcntT8OS6I-00059-00014110-00014338 Muller assumed he would end up working MPcntT8OS6I-00060-00014340-00014546 in industry and so in his senior year MPcntT8OS6I-00061-00014547-00014750 went on a tour of various suitable MPcntT8OS6I-00062-00014751-00015059 companies he applied to RCA General MPcntT8OS6I-00063-00015060-00015236 Electric and Emerson but when he MPcntT8OS6I-00064-00015237-00015509 graduated in 1939 the economy took MPcntT8OS6I-00065-00015510-00015688 another downturn and heat like most of MPcntT8OS6I-00066-00015690-00016019 the class had no job after applying to MPcntT8OS6I-00067-00016019-00016225 several graduate schools he got an offer MPcntT8OS6I-00068-00016226-00016484 of a television fellowship funded by RCA MPcntT8OS6I-00069-00016485-00016802 at Purdue University the fellowship led MPcntT8OS6I-00070-00016803-00016949 to his working on an early television MPcntT8OS6I-00071-00016950-00017246 project Purdue was building a television MPcntT8OS6I-00072-00017247-00017425 transmitter for the campus and it was MPcntT8OS6I-00073-00017426-00017605 the first of the kind that was using all MPcntT8OS6I-00074-00017606-00017887 vacuum tubes to produce the pictures it MPcntT8OS6I-00075-00017888-00018094 was also the first using a cathode ray MPcntT8OS6I-00076-00018095-00018386 tube for display purposes they still had MPcntT8OS6I-00077-00018387-00018584 mechanical discs for scanning but we're MPcntT8OS6I-00078-00018585-00018746 trying to develop an all-electronic MPcntT8OS6I-00079-00018747-00019110 approach MPcntT8OS6I-00080-00019111-00019630 topic Bell Labs MPcntT8OS6I-00081-00019631-00019876 near graduation he applied for a MPcntT8OS6I-00082-00019877-00020068 research job at Bell Labs which he MPcntT8OS6I-00083-00020069-00020283 received after a year to establish MPcntT8OS6I-00084-00020284-00020536 himself there he married Maude Rosenbaum MPcntT8OS6I-00085-00020537-00020749 whom he had met in st. Louis and dated MPcntT8OS6I-00086-00020750-00021004 while at Purdue the work Mueller did at MPcntT8OS6I-00087-00021005-00021169 Bell Labs deferred him from being MPcntT8OS6I-00088-00021170-00021358 drafted into the military during World MPcntT8OS6I-00089-00021359-00021672 War two he initially researched orthicon MPcntT8OS6I-00090-00021673-00021900 technology but as Bell Labs geared up MPcntT8OS6I-00091-00021901-00022117 for war it later became heavily involved MPcntT8OS6I-00092-00022118-00022438 in airborne radar technology as the war MPcntT8OS6I-00093-00022439-00022636 progressed his group was given the task MPcntT8OS6I-00094-00022637-00022849 of building the first airborne radar for MPcntT8OS6I-00095-00022850-00023140 Bell ultimately the radar designed by MPcntT8OS6I-00096-00023141-00023410 MIT was chosen over the Bell Labs system MPcntT8OS6I-00097-00023411-00023587 but not until after Mueller became MPcntT8OS6I-00098-00023588-00023809 spectacularly sick while flight testing MPcntT8OS6I-00099-00023810-00024003 bell labs radar on a visit to Wright MPcntT8OS6I-00100-00024004-00024292 airfield in Ohio he continued his work MPcntT8OS6I-00101-00024293-00024514 on magnetrons and said he came close to MPcntT8OS6I-00102-00024515-00024790 Co inventing the transistor if he and MPcntT8OS6I-00103-00024791-00024997 his co-workers had placed their contacts MPcntT8OS6I-00104-00024998-00025189 on a single crystal of zircon rather MPcntT8OS6I-00105-00025190-00025393 than working with multiple crystals they MPcntT8OS6I-00106-00025394-00025569 would have beaten Shockley's team also MPcntT8OS6I-00107-00025570-00025890 at Bell Labs topic PhD and Rhema MPcntT8OS6I-00108-00025891-00026100 Wooldridge Mueller increasingly believed MPcntT8OS6I-00109-00026101-00026283 that to move up in the hierarchy of the MPcntT8OS6I-00110-00026285-00026524 labs he would need a PhD and he began MPcntT8OS6I-00111-00026525-00026713 working towards this goal on a part-time MPcntT8OS6I-00112-00026714-00026952 basis at Princeton University getting up MPcntT8OS6I-00113-00026953-00027151 every morning at around 5 o'clock and MPcntT8OS6I-00114-00027152-00027337 driving to Princeton to take a couple of MPcntT8OS6I-00115-00027338-00027529 courses before driving back down to MPcntT8OS6I-00116-00027530-00027821 Holmdel to work all day at Bell Labs in MPcntT8OS6I-00117-00027822-00028117 1946 a colleague at the labs Milton boon MPcntT8OS6I-00118-00028118-00028369 a professor from Ohio State University MPcntT8OS6I-00119-00028370-00028545 on leave at Bell Labs during the war MPcntT8OS6I-00120-00028547-00028735 encouraged Mueller to help set up a MPcntT8OS6I-00121-00028736-00028885 vacuum tube lab and run the MPcntT8OS6I-00122-00028886-00029095 communications group at Ohio State MPcntT8OS6I-00123-00029095-00029326 moving to Columbus Muller taught MPcntT8OS6I-00124-00029327-00029520 electrical engineering and the new field MPcntT8OS6I-00125-00029522-00029731 of system engineering and continued his MPcntT8OS6I-00126-00029732-00029974 research focusing his PhD thesis on MPcntT8OS6I-00127-00029975-00030264 dielectric antennas upon obtaining his MPcntT8OS6I-00128-00030266-00030556 doctorate in physics in 1951 he became MPcntT8OS6I-00129-00030557-00030742 associate professor of Electrical MPcntT8OS6I-00130-00030743-00031033 Engineering Remo Wooldridge Corporation MPcntT8OS6I-00131-00031033-00031312 later part of TRW recruited him and he MPcntT8OS6I-00132-00031313-00031626 took a one-year sabbatical in 1953 a MPcntT8OS6I-00133-00031627-00031887 consultant to Remo Wooldridge Muller got MPcntT8OS6I-00134-00031888-00032104 involved in the review of radar designs MPcntT8OS6I-00135-00032105-00032308 and the Bell Labs radar for the Titan MPcntT8OS6I-00136-00032308-00032538 rocket which was originally radio guided MPcntT8OS6I-00137-00032539-00032779 Muller was peripherally involved with MPcntT8OS6I-00138-00032780-00032952 some of the developments of the inertial MPcntT8OS6I-00139-00032953-00032999 system MPcntT8OS6I-00140-00033000-00033173 and generally began to help out wherever MPcntT8OS6I-00141-00033174-00033463 there was a problem Mueller admitted in MPcntT8OS6I-00142-00033464-00033707 1987 that at this time he did not know MPcntT8OS6I-00143-00033708-00033977 anything about missiles after returning MPcntT8OS6I-00144-00033978-00034163 from his sabbatical year to Ohio State MPcntT8OS6I-00145-00034164-00034397 Mueller taught but was also retained as MPcntT8OS6I-00146-00034398-00034811 a part-time consultant to RW in 1957 he MPcntT8OS6I-00147-00034812-00035015 joined Rhema Wooldridge full-time as MPcntT8OS6I-00148-00035016-00035231 director of the electronics laboratories MPcntT8OS6I-00149-00035232-00035495 this laboratory soon merged with the MPcntT8OS6I-00150-00035496-00035690 mechanical group and then Muller became MPcntT8OS6I-00151-00035691-00035888 deputy leader of this larger research MPcntT8OS6I-00152-00035889-00036155 and development organization he was also MPcntT8OS6I-00153-00036156-00036392 program director for the Pioneer program MPcntT8OS6I-00154-00036393-00036563 and later took over as head of R&D MPcntT8OS6I-00155-00036564-00036865 research and development the Thompson MPcntT8OS6I-00156-00036866-00037112 products company bought RW and merged it MPcntT8OS6I-00157-00037113-00037427 into what became t RW while working on MPcntT8OS6I-00158-00037428-00037652 missile systems Muller became convinced MPcntT8OS6I-00159-00037653-00037847 that all up testing was essential as you MPcntT8OS6I-00160-00037848-00038024 don't want to be testing piecewise in MPcntT8OS6I-00161-00038025-00038321 space you want to test the entire system MPcntT8OS6I-00162-00038322-00038480 because who knows which one's going to MPcntT8OS6I-00163-00038481-00038636 fail and you'd better have it all MPcntT8OS6I-00164-00038637-00038849 together so that whatever fails you have MPcntT8OS6I-00165-00038850-00039032 a reasonable chance of finding the real MPcntT8OS6I-00166-00039033-00039221 failure mode not just the one you were MPcntT8OS6I-00167-00039222-00039428 looking for topic NASA and the Apollo MPcntT8OS6I-00168-00039429-00039608 program Muller became increasingly MPcntT8OS6I-00169-00039609-00039806 involved with NASA and the Apollo MPcntT8OS6I-00170-00039807-00040121 program NASA's Administrator James E MPcntT8OS6I-00171-00040122-00040360 Webb sounded Muller out for a top job MPcntT8OS6I-00172-00040361-00040615 Muller would only agree if the agency MPcntT8OS6I-00173-00040616-00040805 was restructured and so during the fall MPcntT8OS6I-00174-00040806-00041090 of 1963 Webb worked with associate MPcntT8OS6I-00175-00041091-00041267 administrator Robert seaman's to MPcntT8OS6I-00176-00041268-00041471 restructure NASA shifting three key MPcntT8OS6I-00177-00041472-00041732 centers manned spacecraft Center MSC MPcntT8OS6I-00178-00041733-00042032 Marshall Space Flight Center MSFC and MPcntT8OS6I-00179-00042033-00042233 the launch Operations Center locked to MPcntT8OS6I-00180-00042234-00042428 report directly to Muller as well as a MPcntT8OS6I-00181-00042429-00042698 local staff at headquarters Muller MPcntT8OS6I-00182-00042699-00042871 accepted the job and took a substantial MPcntT8OS6I-00183-00042872-00043181 pay cut the reorganization of NASA in MPcntT8OS6I-00184-00043182-00043421 the office of manned spaceflight OMS F MPcntT8OS6I-00185-00043422-00043696 was announced in November 1963 MPcntT8OS6I-00186-00043697-00043961 encouraged by Webb Muller had studied MPcntT8OS6I-00187-00043962-00044153 the three centers speaking with people MPcntT8OS6I-00188-00044154-00044282 he knew from his work at Rhema MPcntT8OS6I-00189-00044283-00044549 Wooldridge his impression there wasn't MPcntT8OS6I-00190-00044550-00044798 any management system in existence more MPcntT8OS6I-00191-00044799-00045023 seriously Muller found no means to MPcntT8OS6I-00192-00045024-00045182 determine and control hardware MPcntT8OS6I-00193-00045183-00045368 configurations which gave no way to MPcntT8OS6I-00194-00045369-00045659 determine costs her schedules Muller MPcntT8OS6I-00195-00045660-00045877 concluded he would have to teach people MPcntT8OS6I-00196-00045878-00046090 what was involved in doing program MPcntT8OS6I-00197-00046091-00046385 control in August 1960 MPcntT8OS6I-00198-00046386-00046552 three muller invited each of his three MPcntT8OS6I-00199-00046553-00046783 field center directors to visit him and MPcntT8OS6I-00200-00046784-00046976 explained how his proposed changes would MPcntT8OS6I-00201-00046977-00047186 put Apollo back on schedule and solve MPcntT8OS6I-00202-00047187-00047370 problems with the Bureau of the budget MPcntT8OS6I-00203-00047371-00047648 change did not come easy and he had some MPcntT8OS6I-00204-00047649-00047849 problems with Wernher von Braun who gave MPcntT8OS6I-00205-00047850-00048086 one of his impassioned speeches about MPcntT8OS6I-00206-00048087-00048260 how you can't change the basic MPcntT8OS6I-00207-00048261-00048574 organization of Marshall after some MPcntT8OS6I-00208-00048575-00048776 argument von Braun accepted Mueller's MPcntT8OS6I-00209-00048777-00049018 proposals and reorganized MSFC MPcntT8OS6I-00210-00049019-00049217 strengthening its capacity and running MPcntT8OS6I-00211-00049218-00049529 large projects Mueller's position was MPcntT8OS6I-00212-00049530-00049817 strengthened by directors at MSC MSFC MPcntT8OS6I-00213-00049818-00050083 and Locke reporting directly to OMS F MPcntT8OS6I-00214-00050084-00050348 Mueller also reduced attendance at the MPcntT8OS6I-00215-00050349-00050567 manned spaceflight management council to MPcntT8OS6I-00216-00050568-00050785 just himself in the center directors MPcntT8OS6I-00217-00050786-00050999 borrowing from the US Air Force MPcntT8OS6I-00218-00051000-00051200 Minuteman Program Mueller formed the MPcntT8OS6I-00219-00051201-00051425 Apollo executive group which consisted MPcntT8OS6I-00220-00051426-00051571 of himself and the presidents of MPcntT8OS6I-00221-00051572-00051877 Apollo's main contractors the biggest MPcntT8OS6I-00222-00051878-00052102 problem Mueller still faced was Apollo's MPcntT8OS6I-00223-00052103-00052344 slipping schedule and huge cost overruns MPcntT8OS6I-00224-00052345-00052586 he had always thought the only way to MPcntT8OS6I-00225-00052587-00052807 resolve this and achieve a lunar landing MPcntT8OS6I-00226-00052808-00053063 before 1970 was to reduce the number of MPcntT8OS6I-00227-00053064-00053344 test flights Mueller wanted to use his MPcntT8OS6I-00228-00053345-00053660 all up testing concept with each flight MPcntT8OS6I-00229-00053661-00053840 using the full number of life stages MPcntT8OS6I-00230-00053841-00054076 this approach had been used successfully MPcntT8OS6I-00231-00054077-00054319 on the Titan 2 and Minuteman programs MPcntT8OS6I-00232-00054320-00054548 but violated von Braun's engineering MPcntT8OS6I-00233-00054549-00054856 concepts the von braun test plan called MPcntT8OS6I-00234-00054857-00055030 for the first live test to use the MPcntT8OS6I-00235-00055032-00055229 Saturn's first stage with dummy upper MPcntT8OS6I-00236-00055229-00055475 stages if the first stage worked MPcntT8OS6I-00237-00055476-00055651 correctly then the first two stages MPcntT8OS6I-00238-00055652-00055850 would be live with a dummy third stage MPcntT8OS6I-00239-00055851-00056068 and so on with at least 10 test flights MPcntT8OS6I-00240-00056069-00056242 before a manned version was put into MPcntT8OS6I-00241-00056244-00056554 low-earth orbit the Saturn V program MPcntT8OS6I-00242-00056555-00056788 manager Arthur Rudolph cornered Mueller MPcntT8OS6I-00243-00056789-00056950 with scale models of Saturn and MPcntT8OS6I-00244-00056951-00057181 Minuteman the saturn dwarfed the MPcntT8OS6I-00245-00057182-00057522 Minuteman but Muller replied so what MPcntT8OS6I-00246-00057523-00057750 eventually von Braun and the others were MPcntT8OS6I-00247-00057751-00058055 won over as von Braun stated it sounded MPcntT8OS6I-00248-00058057-00058275 reckless but George Mueller's reasoning MPcntT8OS6I-00249-00058276-00058545 was impeccable water ballast in lieu of MPcntT8OS6I-00250-00058546-00058785 a second and third stage would require MPcntT8OS6I-00251-00058786-00059016 much less tank volume than liquid MPcntT8OS6I-00252-00059016-00059277 hydrogen fueled stages so that a rocket MPcntT8OS6I-00253-00059278-00059487 tested with only a live first stage MPcntT8OS6I-00254-00059488-00059664 would be much shorter than the final MPcntT8OS6I-00255-00059665-00060009 configuration its aerodynamic shape and MPcntT8OS6I-00256-00060010-00060216 its body dynamics would thus not be MPcntT8OS6I-00257-00060216-00060516 representative filling the ballast tanks MPcntT8OS6I-00258-00060516-00060789 with liquid hydrogen fine but then why MPcntT8OS6I-00259-00060790-00061101 not burn it as a bonus experiment and so MPcntT8OS6I-00260-00061102-00061314 the arguments went on until George in MPcntT8OS6I-00261-00061315-00061454 the end prevailed MPcntT8OS6I-00262-00061454-00061710 Mueller's concept of all up testing MPcntT8OS6I-00263-00061711-00061955 worked the first two unmanned flights of MPcntT8OS6I-00264-00061957-00062175 the Saturn V were successful the second MPcntT8OS6I-00265-00062176-00062391 less so then the third Saturn V put MPcntT8OS6I-00266-00062391-00062610 Frank borman's Apollo 8 crew in orbit MPcntT8OS6I-00267-00062611-00062891 round the moon on Christmas 1968 and the MPcntT8OS6I-00268-00062892-00063114 sixth Saturn V carried Neil Armstrong's MPcntT8OS6I-00269-00063115-00063362 Apollo 11 to the first lunar landing in MPcntT8OS6I-00270-00063363-00063629 an interview Mueller acknowledged what MPcntT8OS6I-00271-00063630-00063791 would have happened if all up testing MPcntT8OS6I-00272-00063792-00064035 had failed the whole Apollo program and MPcntT8OS6I-00273-00064036-00064248 my reputation would have gone down the MPcntT8OS6I-00274-00064249-00064574 drain with this battle won in November MPcntT8OS6I-00275-00064575-00064869 1965 Mueller reorganized the Gemini and MPcntT8OS6I-00276-00064870-00065129 Apollo program offices creating a five MPcntT8OS6I-00277-00065130-00065457 box structure at HQ in field center this MPcntT8OS6I-00278-00065458-00065670 structure replicated Mueller's concept MPcntT8OS6I-00279-00065671-00065868 of system management and provided far MPcntT8OS6I-00280-00065869-00066153 better program overview the key part of MPcntT8OS6I-00281-00066154-00066453 the idea was that inside these gem boxes MPcntT8OS6I-00282-00066454-00066717 named from his initials managers and MPcntT8OS6I-00283-00066718-00066918 engineers communicated directly with MPcntT8OS6I-00284-00066919-00067110 their functional counterparts in NASA HQ MPcntT8OS6I-00285-00067111-00067353 by passing the usual chain of command MPcntT8OS6I-00286-00067354-00067731 and bureaucracy with another battle one MPcntT8OS6I-00287-00067732-00067914 Mueller still found that he could not MPcntT8OS6I-00288-00067915-00068073 always find the right people with the MPcntT8OS6I-00289-00068074-00068352 right skills using his background with MPcntT8OS6I-00290-00068353-00068562 Air Force projects Mueller sought Webb's MPcntT8OS6I-00291-00068563-00068751 permission to bring in skilled airforce MPcntT8OS6I-00292-00068752-00069054 program managers he proposed Minuteman MPcntT8OS6I-00293-00069055-00069267 program director Colonel Samuel C MPcntT8OS6I-00294-00069268-00069483 Phillips as Apollo program director in MPcntT8OS6I-00295-00069484-00069867 OMS F Webb agreed and so did AFSC chief MPcntT8OS6I-00296-00069868-00070137 General bernard Schriever phillips in MPcntT8OS6I-00297-00070138-00070347 turn agreed and brought with him 42 MPcntT8OS6I-00298-00070348-00070650 mid-grade officers and eventually 124 MPcntT8OS6I-00299-00070651-00070959 more junior officers ultimately Oh MPcntT8OS6I-00300-00070960-00071235 400 experienced military officers worked MPcntT8OS6I-00301-00071236-00071462 on Apollo and other NASA programs during MPcntT8OS6I-00302-00071463-00071912 the 1960's Siemens promoted in 1965 to MPcntT8OS6I-00303-00071913-00072159 deputy administrator stated that Muller MPcntT8OS6I-00304-00072160-00072435 didn't sell he dictated and without his MPcntT8OS6I-00305-00072436-00072624 Direction Apollo would not have MPcntT8OS6I-00306-00072625-00072942 succeeded also well-known were Mueller's MPcntT8OS6I-00307-00072943-00073181 project status reviews often held on MPcntT8OS6I-00308-00073182-00073428 Sundays and in brutal detail the MPcntT8OS6I-00309-00073429-00073676 presentations were nicknamed pasteurized MPcntT8OS6I-00310-00073677-00073971 as the tired managers ability to absorb MPcntT8OS6I-00311-00073972-00074160 the detail was waning and the charts MPcntT8OS6I-00312-00074161-00074450 were merely past your eyes after the MPcntT8OS6I-00313-00074451-00074547 Apollo 1 fire MPcntT8OS6I-00314-00074548-00074790 NASA Administrator James Webb became MPcntT8OS6I-00315-00074791-00074924 distrustful of Muller MPcntT8OS6I-00316-00074925-00075159 but commented even if I wanted to I MPcntT8OS6I-00317-00075160-00075378 couldn't fire him because he was manager MPcntT8OS6I-00318-00075379-00075642 of our successful Apollo project and one MPcntT8OS6I-00319-00075643-00075930 of the ablest men in the world MPcntT8OS6I-00320-00075931-00076206 the last thing I wanted was to lose him MPcntT8OS6I-00321-00076207-00076455 but I also had another desire which was MPcntT8OS6I-00322-00076456-00076676 not to let his way of working create too MPcntT8OS6I-00323-00076677-00077174 many difficulties MPcntT8OS6I-00324-00077175-00077807 topic Apollo applications in Skylab MPcntT8OS6I-00325-00077808-00078051 even while Apollo was progressing MPcntT8OS6I-00326-00078052-00078219 Mueller and others were pushing for an MPcntT8OS6I-00327-00078220-00078483 aggressive post Apollo program he MPcntT8OS6I-00328-00078484-00078675 established the Apollo applications MPcntT8OS6I-00329-00078676-00078999 office in 1965 the applications were MPcntT8OS6I-00330-00079000-00079221 extensive involving a manned lunar base MPcntT8OS6I-00331-00079222-00079458 an earth orbiting space station Apollo MPcntT8OS6I-00332-00079459-00079638 telescope a grand tour of the outer MPcntT8OS6I-00333-00079639-00079917 solar system and the original Voyager MPcntT8OS6I-00334-00079918-00080241 program of Mars Lander probes faced with MPcntT8OS6I-00335-00080242-00080427 congressional disapproval and infighting MPcntT8OS6I-00336-00080428-00080634 within NASA the ambitious Apollo MPcntT8OS6I-00337-00080635-00080859 applications program was cut back time MPcntT8OS6I-00338-00080860-00081403 and time again until just Skylab remain MPcntT8OS6I-00339-00081404-00081975 topic father of the Space Shuttle MPcntT8OS6I-00340-00081976-00082212 Muller is often credited as being the MPcntT8OS6I-00341-00082213-00082539 father of the space shuttle whether this MPcntT8OS6I-00342-00082540-00082785 is entirely true as debatable Scott pace MPcntT8OS6I-00343-00082786-00082950 propounded the view that in such a MPcntT8OS6I-00344-00082951-00083171 complex system with so many stakeholders MPcntT8OS6I-00345-00083172-00083508 everyone was a shuttle designer what is MPcntT8OS6I-00346-00083509-00083715 beyond doubt is that Muller played a key MPcntT8OS6I-00347-00083716-00083919 role in early space shuttle decisions MPcntT8OS6I-00348-00083920-00084075 and in championing the cause for a MPcntT8OS6I-00349-00084076-00084378 reusable space vehicle while perhaps not MPcntT8OS6I-00350-00084379-00084447 the father MPcntT8OS6I-00351-00084448-00084621 he has been accurately described by MPcntT8OS6I-00352-00084622-00084840 Professor John Logsdon as the policy MPcntT8OS6I-00353-00084841-00085041 father of the space shuttle Muller held MPcntT8OS6I-00354-00085042-00085227 a one-day symposium held at NASA MPcntT8OS6I-00355-00085228-00085536 headquarters in December 1967 to which MPcntT8OS6I-00356-00085537-00085728 eighty people from the Air Force NASA MPcntT8OS6I-00357-00085729-00085962 and industry were invited to discuss low MPcntT8OS6I-00358-00085963-00086130 cost space flight and shuttle like MPcntT8OS6I-00359-00086131-00086415 designs the designs ranged from simple MPcntT8OS6I-00360-00086416-00086685 concepts like Martin Marietta six person MPcntT8OS6I-00361-00086686-00086916 reusable craft similar to the dinosaur MPcntT8OS6I-00362-00086917-00087186 launched by a Titan III m2 partially MPcntT8OS6I-00363-00087187-00087408 reusable concepts like Lockheed Star MPcntT8OS6I-00364-00087409-00087588 clipper or tip tank from McDonnell MPcntT8OS6I-00365-00087589-00087798 Douglas to fully reusable two-stage MPcntT8OS6I-00366-00087799-00087972 vehicles like the one proposed by MPcntT8OS6I-00367-00087973-00088236 General Dynamics following this MPcntT8OS6I-00368-00088237-00088470 symposium Muller continued to champion a MPcntT8OS6I-00369-00088471-00088788 space shuttle he did not invent the term MPcntT8OS6I-00370-00088789-00089040 but he made it his own he was also a MPcntT8OS6I-00371-00089041-00089247 keen proponent of Space Station's and MPcntT8OS6I-00372-00089248-00089409 was well aware that the space shuttle MPcntT8OS6I-00373-00089410-00089550 was to shuttle to and from such a MPcntT8OS6I-00374-00089551-00089919 station while in London in August 1968 MPcntT8OS6I-00375-00089920-00090102 to receive an award from the British MPcntT8OS6I-00376-00090103-00090306 interplanetary society he again MPcntT8OS6I-00377-00090307-00090592 trumpeted the cause of the shuttle MPcntT8OS6I-00378-00090593-00090801 there is a real requirement for an MPcntT8OS6I-00379-00090802-00091032 efficient earth to orbit transportation MPcntT8OS6I-00380-00091033-00091384 system an economical space shuttle MPcntT8OS6I-00381-00091385-00091690 I forecast that the next major thrust in MPcntT8OS6I-00382-00091691-00091881 space will be the development of an MPcntT8OS6I-00383-00091882-00092116 economical launch vehicle for shuttling MPcntT8OS6I-00384-00092117-00092353 between earth and the installations such MPcntT8OS6I-00385-00092354-00092574 as the orbiting space station that will MPcntT8OS6I-00386-00092575-00092931 soon be orbiting in space he also stated MPcntT8OS6I-00387-00092932-00093168 as many others would do later that the MPcntT8OS6I-00388-00093169-00093385 shuttle ideally would be able to operate MPcntT8OS6I-00389-00093386-00093571 in a mode similar to that of a large MPcntT8OS6I-00390-00093572-00093807 commercial air transports and be MPcntT8OS6I-00391-00093808-00094012 compatible with the environment of major MPcntT8OS6I-00392-00094013-00094453 airports Mueller's optimism grew in 1968 MPcntT8OS6I-00393-00094454-00094654 and he chided Wernher von Braun who had MPcntT8OS6I-00394-00094655-00094816 been cautiously promoting a cheap MPcntT8OS6I-00395-00094817-00095035 interim shuttle type craft you'd be MPcntT8OS6I-00396-00095036-00095215 telling me that my shuttle was in the MPcntT8OS6I-00397-00095216-00095474 future and you needed an interim system MPcntT8OS6I-00398-00095475-00095692 Muller was sure that the incoming MPcntT8OS6I-00399-00095693-00095899 president Richard Nixon would want to go MPcntT8OS6I-00400-00095900-00096219 all-out and that this may be the big MPcntT8OS6I-00401-00096220-00096592 program for Nixon in 1987 Muller had MPcntT8OS6I-00402-00096593-00096778 this to say about the shuttle it was MPcntT8OS6I-00403-00096779-00096975 clear to us at that time that we needed MPcntT8OS6I-00404-00096976-00097188 to have a joint program between the Air MPcntT8OS6I-00405-00097189-00097396 Force and NASA and that that program MPcntT8OS6I-00406-00097397-00097593 ought to be aimed at providing low-cost MPcntT8OS6I-00407-00097594-00097840 space transportation for all of our MPcntT8OS6I-00408-00097841-00098191 needs it's just in my view unfortunate MPcntT8OS6I-00409-00098192-00098418 that we made the compromise after I left MPcntT8OS6I-00410-00098419-00098647 NASA in terms of the partially reusable MPcntT8OS6I-00411-00098648-00098896 vehicle and all that that implies in MPcntT8OS6I-00412-00098897-00099069 terms of not only the cost of the MPcntT8OS6I-00413-00099070-00099324 throwaway parts but also the cost of the MPcntT8OS6I-00414-00099325-00099537 ground troops that have to process it MPcntT8OS6I-00415-00099538-00099712 and put it together and fly it every MPcntT8OS6I-00416-00099713-00100099 time that combination and ground support MPcntT8OS6I-00417-00100100-00100368 as a not insignificant part of a shuttle MPcntT8OS6I-00418-00100369-00100650 cost was a set of decisions that doomed MPcntT8OS6I-00419-00100651-00100893 low-cost space transportation for that MPcntT8OS6I-00420-00100894-00101424 generation of vehicles MPcntT8OS6I-00421-00101425-00101998 topic mueller's working style MPcntT8OS6I-00422-00101999-00102241 almost everyone who worked with Muller MPcntT8OS6I-00423-00102242-00102421 and Apollo agreed he was technically MPcntT8OS6I-00424-00102422-00102703 brilliant and exceedingly capable even MPcntT8OS6I-00425-00102704-00102885 those who frequently disagreed with him MPcntT8OS6I-00426-00102886-00103066 like Christopher Kraft or George Lowe MPcntT8OS6I-00427-00103067-00103351 recognized his abilities while Muller MPcntT8OS6I-00428-00103352-00103530 could be described as intellectually MPcntT8OS6I-00429-00103531-00103734 arrogant he was not an office tyrant one MPcntT8OS6I-00430-00103735-00103944 of his colleagues John Disher describes MPcntT8OS6I-00431-00103945-00104256 working for him as a piece of cake nor MPcntT8OS6I-00432-00104257-00104430 did he try to belittle others or shut MPcntT8OS6I-00433-00104431-00104658 them down while appearing affable and MPcntT8OS6I-00434-00104659-00104872 reasonably charming with the epitome of MPcntT8OS6I-00435-00104873-00105088 politeness but you know down deep he's MPcntT8OS6I-00436-00105089-00105453 just as hard as steel MPcntT8OS6I-00437-00105454-00105634 you MPcntT8OS6I-00438-00105635-00106215 topic resignation from NASA MPcntT8OS6I-00439-00106216-00106488 Muller resigned from NASA on November 10 MPcntT8OS6I-00440-00106489-00106872 1969 effective from December 10th rumors MPcntT8OS6I-00441-00106873-00107067 had been circulating for a while that he MPcntT8OS6I-00442-00107068-00107333 wanted to return to private industry the MPcntT8OS6I-00443-00107334-00107526 New York Times stated that informed MPcntT8OS6I-00444-00107527-00107742 sources alleged clashes with MPcntT8OS6I-00445-00107743-00107997 administrator Thomas Paine over space MPcntT8OS6I-00446-00107998-00108252 priorities for 70s and disputes with MPcntT8OS6I-00447-00108253-00108461 subordinates he has twice been passed MPcntT8OS6I-00448-00108463-00108846 over for deputy a DMR post in an MPcntT8OS6I-00449-00108847-00109034 interview Mueller gave different reasons MPcntT8OS6I-00450-00109035-00109269 for leaving one is that the decision had MPcntT8OS6I-00451-00109270-00109436 been made to terminate the Apollo MPcntT8OS6I-00452-00109438-00109671 program and that was a good time then to MPcntT8OS6I-00453-00109672-00109893 leave before and let someone else take MPcntT8OS6I-00454-00109894-00110196 over for the next phase from a practical MPcntT8OS6I-00455-00110197-00110418 point of view I needed to go make some MPcntT8OS6I-00456-00110419-00110715 money so I could keep my family going it MPcntT8OS6I-00457-00110716-00110928 was costly for us to join the Apollo MPcntT8OS6I-00458-00110929-00111216 program my salary was half what I was MPcntT8OS6I-00459-00111217-00111429 making an industry when I went there and MPcntT8OS6I-00460-00111430-00111603 it was just as strained to keep the MPcntT8OS6I-00461-00111604-00111809 family going and work going at the same MPcntT8OS6I-00462-00111810-00112208 time so I went back to industry after a MPcntT8OS6I-00463-00112209-00112436 short time at General Dynamics Muller MPcntT8OS6I-00464-00112438-00112623 became chairman and president of the MPcntT8OS6I-00465-00112624-00112854 system Development Corporation a spinoff MPcntT8OS6I-00466-00112855-00113144 from the RAND Corporation in 1971 he MPcntT8OS6I-00467-00113145-00113403 remained with SDC following the MPcntT8OS6I-00468-00113404-00113592 burroughs corporation's acquisition of MPcntT8OS6I-00469-00113593-00113772 the company and retired after growing MPcntT8OS6I-00470-00113773-00114114 the company successfully in 1984 while MPcntT8OS6I-00471-00114115-00114348 at SDC Muller married his second wife MPcntT8OS6I-00472-00114349-00114669 Darla after a short retirement Mueller MPcntT8OS6I-00473-00114670-00114785 became the president of the MPcntT8OS6I-00474-00114786-00115014 International Academy of astronautics in MPcntT8OS6I-00475-00115015-00115167 addition to consulting and other MPcntT8OS6I-00476-00115168-00115440 volunteer work yearning to return to MPcntT8OS6I-00477-00115441-00115632 full-time employment he became the CEO MPcntT8OS6I-00478-00115633-00115932 of Kistler aerospace in 1996 and MPcntT8OS6I-00479-00115933-00116091 remained with the company for a number MPcntT8OS6I-00480-00116092-00116440 of years MPcntT8OS6I-00481-00116441-00117115 topic post NASA career senior vice MPcntT8OS6I-00482-00117116-00117256 president of General Dynamics MPcntT8OS6I-00483-00117257-00117643 Corporation Falls Church Virginia 1969 MPcntT8OS6I-00484-00117644-00118063 to 1971 system Development Corporation MPcntT8OS6I-00485-00118064-00118378 Santa Monica California chairman MPcntT8OS6I-00486-00118379-00118906 president 1971 to 1987 chief executive MPcntT8OS6I-00487-00118907-00119320 officer 1981 to 1983 Burroughs MPcntT8OS6I-00488-00119321-00119701 corporation senior vice president 1980 MPcntT8OS6I-00489-00119702-00119901 to 1983 MPcntT8OS6I-00490-00119902-00120319 consultant 1984 date unknown Kistler MPcntT8OS6I-00491-00120320-00120693 aerospace Rocketplane Kistler from 2006 MPcntT8OS6I-00492-00120694-00121213 CEO 1995 to 2004 chairman and chief MPcntT8OS6I-00493-00121214-00121498 vehicle architect 2004 mueller died of MPcntT8OS6I-00494-00121499-00121683 congestive heart failure in Irvine MPcntT8OS6I-00495-00121684-00122023 California on October 12 2015 at the age MPcntT8OS6I-00496-00122024-00122408 of 97 MPcntT8OS6I-00497-00122408-00122935 topic references MPcntT8OS6I-00498-00122936-00123358 specific general Murray C and Cox CB MPcntT8OS6I-00499-00123359-00124016 2004 Apollo pages 151 to 160 to South MPcntT8OS6I-00500-00124017-00124367 Mountain books Burkittsville MD is B and MPcntT8OS6I-00501-00124368-00124871 O nine seven six ooo 806 one Heppenheim MPcntT8OS6I-00502-00124872-00125327 er ta the Space Shuttle decision 1965 to MPcntT8OS6I-00503-00125328-00125707 1972 history of the space shuttle vol 1 MPcntT8OS6I-00504-00125708-00126083 Smithsonian Institution press ISBN one MPcntT8OS6I-00505-00126083-00126310 five eight eight three four oh one four MPcntT8OS6I-00506-00126311-00126770 seven pace scott 1982 engineering design MPcntT8OS6I-00507-00126771-00126994 and political choice the Space Shuttle MPcntT8OS6I-00508-00126995-00127418 1969 to 1972 thesis MS Massachusetts MPcntT8OS6I-00509-00127419-00127636 Institute of Technology Department of MPcntT8OS6I-00510-00127638-00127939 aeronautics and Astronautics 1982 MPcntT8OS6I-00511-00127940-00128329 Slotkin Arthur L 2012 doing the MPcntT8OS6I-00512-00128330-00128399 impossible MPcntT8OS6I-00513-00128400-00128591 Georgie Muller and the management of MPcntT8OS6I-00514-00128592-00128752 NASA's human space flight program MPcntT8OS6I-00515-00128753-00129038 springer praxis scientific publications MPcntT8OS6I-00516-00129039-00129519 New York MPcntT8OS6I-00517-00129520-00129957 external links MPcntT8OS6I-00518-00129958-00130368 George Edwin Muller dr. George Muller MPcntT8OS6I-00519-00130369-00130827 interview NASM oral history project MQU90q_-fgM-00000-00000011-00000292 the physiology of decompression involves MQU90q_-fgM-00001-00000293-00000470 a complex interaction of gas solubility MQU90q_-fgM-00002-00000471-00000674 partial pressures and concentration MQU90q_-fgM-00003-00000675-00000881 gradients diffusion bulk transport and MQU90q_-fgM-00004-00000882-00001139 bubble mechanics in living tissues glass MQU90q_-fgM-00005-00001140-00001322 is breathed at ambient pressure and some MQU90q_-fgM-00006-00001323-00001478 of this gas dissolves into the blood and MQU90q_-fgM-00007-00001479-00001754 other fluids inert gas continues to be MQU90q_-fgM-00008-00001755-00001930 taken up until the gas dissolved in the MQU90q_-fgM-00009-00001932-00002057 tissues is in a state of equilibrium MQU90q_-fgM-00010-00002058-00002348 with the gas in the lungs see saturation MQU90q_-fgM-00011-00002349-00002558 diving or the ambient pressure is MQU90q_-fgM-00012-00002559-00002723 reduced until the inert gases dissolved MQU90q_-fgM-00013-00002724-00002864 in the tissues are at a higher MQU90q_-fgM-00014-00002865-00003052 concentration than the equilibrium state MQU90q_-fgM-00015-00003053-00003215 and start diffusing out again the MQU90q_-fgM-00016-00003215-00003401 absorption of gases in liquids depends MQU90q_-fgM-00017-00003402-00003593 on the solubility of the specific gas in MQU90q_-fgM-00018-00003594-00003776 the specific liquid the concentration of MQU90q_-fgM-00019-00003777-00003965 gas customarily measured by partial MQU90q_-fgM-00020-00003965-00004213 pressure and temperature in the study of MQU90q_-fgM-00021-00004214-00004388 decompression Theory the behavior of MQU90q_-fgM-00022-00004389-00004544 gases dissolved in the tissues is MQU90q_-fgM-00023-00004545-00004729 investigated and modeled for variations MQU90q_-fgM-00024-00004730-00004958 of pressure over time once dissolved MQU90q_-fgM-00025-00004959-00005152 distribution of the dissolved gas may be MQU90q_-fgM-00026-00005153-00005360 by diffusion where there is no bulk flow MQU90q_-fgM-00027-00005361-00005545 of the solvent or by diffusion where the MQU90q_-fgM-00028-00005546-00005729 solvent blood is circulated around the MQU90q_-fgM-00029-00005730-00005911 divers body where gas can diffuse to MQU90q_-fgM-00030-00005912-00006091 local regions of lower concentration MQU90q_-fgM-00031-00006092-00006304 given sufficient time at a specific MQU90q_-fgM-00032-00006305-00006467 partial pressure in the breathing gas MQU90q_-fgM-00033-00006468-00006656 the concentration in the tissues will MQU90q_-fgM-00034-00006656-00006835 stabilize or saturate at a rate MQU90q_-fgM-00035-00006836-00007025 depending on the solubility diffusion MQU90q_-fgM-00036-00007026-00007270 rate and perfusion if the concentration MQU90q_-fgM-00037-00007272-00007442 of the inert gas in the breathing gas is MQU90q_-fgM-00038-00007443-00007609 reduced below that of any of the tissues MQU90q_-fgM-00039-00007611-00007778 there will be a tendency for gas to MQU90q_-fgM-00040-00007779-00007937 return from the tissues to the breathing MQU90q_-fgM-00041-00007938-00008177 gas this is known as outgassing and MQU90q_-fgM-00042-00008178-00008348 occurs during decompression when the MQU90q_-fgM-00043-00008349-00008495 reduction in ambient pressure or a MQU90q_-fgM-00044-00008496-00008663 change of breathing gas reduces the MQU90q_-fgM-00045-00008664-00008831 partial pressure of the inert gas in the MQU90q_-fgM-00046-00008832-00008873 lungs MQU90q_-fgM-00047-00008874-00009059 the combined concentrations of gases in MQU90q_-fgM-00048-00009060-00009214 any given tissue will depend on the MQU90q_-fgM-00049-00009215-00009385 history of pressure and gas composition MQU90q_-fgM-00050-00009386-00009653 under equilibrium conditions the total MQU90q_-fgM-00051-00009654-00009830 concentration of dissolved gases will be MQU90q_-fgM-00052-00009831-00010024 less than the ambient pressure as oxygen MQU90q_-fgM-00053-00010025-00010192 is metabolized in the tissues and the MQU90q_-fgM-00054-00010193-00010394 carbon dioxide produced is much more MQU90q_-fgM-00055-00010395-00010663 soluble however during a reduction in MQU90q_-fgM-00056-00010664-00010817 ambient pressure the rate of pressure MQU90q_-fgM-00057-00010818-00010963 reduction may exceed the rate at which MQU90q_-fgM-00058-00010964-00011162 gas can be eliminated by diffusion and MQU90q_-fgM-00059-00011163-00011338 perfusion and if the concentration gets MQU90q_-fgM-00060-00011339-00011485 too high it may reach a stage where MQU90q_-fgM-00061-00011486-00011663 bubble formation can occur in the MQU90q_-fgM-00062-00011664-00011914 supersaturated tissues when the pressure MQU90q_-fgM-00063-00011915-00012074 of gases in a bubble exceeds the MQU90q_-fgM-00064-00012075-00012251 combined external pressures of ambient MQU90q_-fgM-00065-00012252-00012395 pressure and the surface tension from MQU90q_-fgM-00066-00012396-00012574 the bubble liquid interface the bubbles MQU90q_-fgM-00067-00012575-00012719 will grow and this growth can cause MQU90q_-fgM-00068-00012720-00012983 damage to tissues symptoms caused by MQU90q_-fgM-00069-00012984-00013115 this damage are known as decompression MQU90q_-fgM-00070-00013116-00013336 sickness the actual rates of diffusion MQU90q_-fgM-00071-00013337-00013366 and MQU90q_-fgM-00072-00013368-00013558 fusion and the solubility of gases in MQU90q_-fgM-00073-00013559-00013733 specific tissues are not generally known MQU90q_-fgM-00074-00013734-00013863 and vary considerably MQU90q_-fgM-00075-00013865-00014099 however mathematical models have been MQU90q_-fgM-00076-00014100-00014236 proposed which approximate the real MQU90q_-fgM-00077-00014237-00014416 situation to a greater or lesser extent MQU90q_-fgM-00078-00014418-00014608 and these models are used to predict MQU90q_-fgM-00079-00014609-00014783 whether symptomatic bubble formation is MQU90q_-fgM-00080-00014784-00014936 likely to occur for a given pressure MQU90q_-fgM-00081-00014937-00016075 exposure profile topic solubility MQU90q_-fgM-00082-00016076-00016322 solubility is the property of a gas MQU90q_-fgM-00083-00016322-00016550 liquid or solid substance the solute to MQU90q_-fgM-00084-00016551-00016717 be held homogeneously dispersed as MQU90q_-fgM-00085-00016718-00016925 molecules or ions in a liquid or solid MQU90q_-fgM-00086-00016926-00017174 medium the solvent in decompression MQU90q_-fgM-00087-00017175-00017350 Theory the solubility of gases in MQU90q_-fgM-00088-00017351-00017528 liquids is of primary importance as it MQU90q_-fgM-00089-00017529-00017699 is the formation of bubbles from these MQU90q_-fgM-00090-00017700-00017872 gases that causes decompression sickness MQU90q_-fgM-00091-00017873-00018086 solubility of gases in liquids is MQU90q_-fgM-00092-00018087-00018355 influenced by three main factors the MQU90q_-fgM-00093-00018356-00018500 nature of the solvent liquid and the MQU90q_-fgM-00094-00018501-00018761 solute temperature gases are less MQU90q_-fgM-00095-00018762-00018955 soluble in water but may be more soluble MQU90q_-fgM-00096-00018956-00019111 in organic solvents at higher MQU90q_-fgM-00097-00019112-00019405 temperatures pressure solubility of a MQU90q_-fgM-00098-00019406-00019580 gas in a liquid is proportional to the MQU90q_-fgM-00099-00019581-00019720 partial pressure of the gas on the MQU90q_-fgM-00100-00019721-00019906 liquid henry's law the presence of other MQU90q_-fgM-00101-00019907-00020053 solutes in the solvent can also MQU90q_-fgM-00102-00020054-00020252 influence solubility body tissues MQU90q_-fgM-00103-00020253-00020431 include aqueous and liepard components MQU90q_-fgM-00104-00020432-00020630 in varying ratios and the solubility of MQU90q_-fgM-00105-00020631-00020812 the gas is involved in decompression in MQU90q_-fgM-00106-00020813-00020971 these tissues will vary depending on MQU90q_-fgM-00107-00020972-00022050 their composition topic diffusion MQU90q_-fgM-00108-00022051-00022286 diffusion is the movement of molecules MQU90q_-fgM-00109-00022287-00022462 or ions in a medium when there is no MQU90q_-fgM-00110-00022463-00022642 gross mass flow of the medium and can MQU90q_-fgM-00111-00022643-00022871 occur in gases liquids or solids or any MQU90q_-fgM-00112-00022872-00023119 combination diffusion is driven by the MQU90q_-fgM-00113-00023120-00023261 kinetic energy of the diffusing MQU90q_-fgM-00114-00023262-00023464 molecules it is faster in gases and MQU90q_-fgM-00115-00023465-00023621 slower in solids when compared with MQU90q_-fgM-00116-00023622-00023830 liquids due to the variation in distance MQU90q_-fgM-00117-00023831-00023999 between collisions and diffusion is MQU90q_-fgM-00118-00024000-00024172 faster when the temperature is higher as MQU90q_-fgM-00119-00024173-00024340 the average energy of the molecules is MQU90q_-fgM-00120-00024341-00024608 greater diffusion is also faster in MQU90q_-fgM-00121-00024609-00024764 smaller lighter molecules of which MQU90q_-fgM-00122-00024765-00024949 helium is the extreme example MQU90q_-fgM-00123-00024950-00025189 diffusivity of helium is two point six MQU90q_-fgM-00124-00025190-00025384 five times faster than nitrogen the MQU90q_-fgM-00125-00025385-00025567 partial pressure gradient also known as MQU90q_-fgM-00126-00025568-00025742 the concentration gradient can be used MQU90q_-fgM-00127-00025743-00025909 as a model for the driving mechanism of MQU90q_-fgM-00128-00025910-00026183 diffusion the partial pressure gradient MQU90q_-fgM-00129-00026183-00026365 is the variation of partial pressure or MQU90q_-fgM-00130-00026366-00026567 more accurately the concentration of the MQU90q_-fgM-00131-00026568-00026744 solute dissolved gas from one MQU90q_-fgM-00132-00026745-00026887 point to another in the solvent the MQU90q_-fgM-00133-00026888-00027133 solute molecules will randomly collide MQU90q_-fgM-00134-00027135-00027289 with the other molecules present and MQU90q_-fgM-00135-00027291-00027470 tend over time to spread out until the MQU90q_-fgM-00136-00027470-00027652 distribution is statistically uniform MQU90q_-fgM-00137-00027654-00027889 this has the effect that molecules will MQU90q_-fgM-00138-00027891-00028001 diffuse from regions of higher MQU90q_-fgM-00139-00028002-00028199 concentration partial pressure to MQU90q_-fgM-00140-00028200-00028373 regions of lower concentration and the MQU90q_-fgM-00141-00028374-00028544 rate of diffusion is proportional to the MQU90q_-fgM-00142-00028545-00028702 rate of change of the concentration MQU90q_-fgM-00143-00028702-00028937 tissues in which an inert gas is more MQU90q_-fgM-00144-00028938-00029095 soluble will eventually develop the MQU90q_-fgM-00145-00029097-00029282 higher dissolved gas content in tissues MQU90q_-fgM-00146-00029283-00030020 where the gas is less soluble topic MQU90q_-fgM-00147-00030020-00030638 inert gas uptake in gassing in this MQU90q_-fgM-00148-00030639-00030863 context inert gas refers to a gas which MQU90q_-fgM-00149-00030864-00031127 is not metabolically active atmospheric MQU90q_-fgM-00150-00031127-00031333 nitrogen n2 is the most common example MQU90q_-fgM-00151-00031335-00031552 and helium P is the other inert gas MQU90q_-fgM-00152-00031554-00031736 commonly used in breathing mixtures for MQU90q_-fgM-00153-00031737-00031910 divers atmospheric nitrogen has a MQU90q_-fgM-00154-00031911-00032162 partial pressure of approximately 0.78 MQU90q_-fgM-00155-00032163-00032429 bars at sea level air in the alveoli of MQU90q_-fgM-00156-00032430-00032642 the lungs is diluted by saturated water MQU90q_-fgM-00157-00032643-00032960 vapor h2o and carbon dioxide co2 a MQU90q_-fgM-00158-00032961-00033149 metabolic product given off by the blood MQU90q_-fgM-00159-00033150-00033362 and contains less oxygen o2 then MQU90q_-fgM-00160-00033363-00033548 atmospheric air is some of it is taken MQU90q_-fgM-00161-00033549-00033791 up by the blood for metabolic use the MQU90q_-fgM-00162-00033792-00033941 resulting partial pressure of nitrogen MQU90q_-fgM-00163-00033942-00034295 is about zero 758 bars at atmospheric MQU90q_-fgM-00164-00034296-00034442 pressure the body tissues are therefore MQU90q_-fgM-00165-00034443-00034745 normally saturated with nitrogen at 0.75 MQU90q_-fgM-00166-00034746-00035144 eight bars 569 millimeters of mercury at MQU90q_-fgM-00167-00035145-00035330 increased ambient pressures due to depth MQU90q_-fgM-00168-00035331-00035546 or habitat pressurization a divers lungs MQU90q_-fgM-00169-00035547-00035678 are filled with breathing gas at the MQU90q_-fgM-00170-00035679-00035810 increased pressure and the partial MQU90q_-fgM-00171-00035811-00035987 pressures of the Constituent gases will MQU90q_-fgM-00172-00035988-00036278 be increased proportionately for example MQU90q_-fgM-00173-00036279-00036551 at 10 meters seawater MSW the partial MQU90q_-fgM-00174-00036552-00036731 pressure of nitrogen in air will be one MQU90q_-fgM-00175-00036732-00036911 point five eight bars the inert gases MQU90q_-fgM-00176-00036912-00037049 from the breathing gas in the lungs MQU90q_-fgM-00177-00037050-00037211 diffuse into blood in the alveolar MQU90q_-fgM-00178-00037212-00037394 capillaries move down the pressure MQU90q_-fgM-00179-00037395-00037628 gradient and are distributed around the MQU90q_-fgM-00180-00037629-00037832 body by the systemic circulation in the MQU90q_-fgM-00181-00037833-00038537 process known as perfusion topic MQU90q_-fgM-00182-00038538-00039158 perfusion perfusion is the mass flow MQU90q_-fgM-00183-00039159-00039371 through the tissues dissolved materials MQU90q_-fgM-00184-00039372-00039557 are transported in the blood much faster MQU90q_-fgM-00185-00039558-00039677 than they would be distributed by MQU90q_-fgM-00186-00039678-00039827 diffusion alone order of minutes MQU90q_-fgM-00187-00039828-00040007 compared to hours the dissolved gas in MQU90q_-fgM-00188-00040008-00040190 the alveolar blood is transported to the MQU90q_-fgM-00189-00040191-00040358 body tissues by the blood circulation MQU90q_-fgM-00190-00040359-00040571 there are diffuses through the cell MQU90q_-fgM-00191-00040572-00040751 membranes and into the tissues where it MQU90q_-fgM-00192-00040752-00040976 may eventually reach equilibrium the MQU90q_-fgM-00193-00040977-00041162 greater the blood supply to a tissue the MQU90q_-fgM-00194-00041163-00041324 faster it will reach equilibrium with MQU90q_-fgM-00195-00041325-00042046 gas at the new partial pressure topic MQU90q_-fgM-00196-00042047-00042638 saturation and super saturation if the MQU90q_-fgM-00197-00042639-00042842 supply of gas to a solvent is unlimited MQU90q_-fgM-00198-00042843-00043007 the gas will diffuse into the solvent MQU90q_-fgM-00199-00043008-00043154 until there is so much dissolved that MQU90q_-fgM-00200-00043155-00043307 equilibrium is reached in the amount MQU90q_-fgM-00201-00043308-00043460 diffusing back out is equal to the MQU90q_-fgM-00202-00043461-00043679 amount diffusing in this is called MQU90q_-fgM-00203-00043680-00043871 saturation if the external partial MQU90q_-fgM-00204-00043872-00044048 pressure of the gas in the lungs is then MQU90q_-fgM-00205-00044049-00044231 reduced more gas will diffuse out than MQU90q_-fgM-00206-00044232-00044459 in this is a condition known as super MQU90q_-fgM-00207-00044460-00044639 saturation the gas will not necessarily MQU90q_-fgM-00208-00044640-00044828 form bubbles in the solvent at this MQU90q_-fgM-00209-00044829-00045047 stage but super saturation is necessary MQU90q_-fgM-00210-00045048-00045287 for bubble growth a supersaturated MQU90q_-fgM-00211-00045288-00045518 solution of gases in a tissue may form MQU90q_-fgM-00212-00045519-00045704 bubbles if suitable nucleation sites MQU90q_-fgM-00213-00045705-00045998 exist super saturation may be defined as MQU90q_-fgM-00214-00045999-00046175 a sum of all gas partial pressures in MQU90q_-fgM-00215-00046176-00046322 the liquid which exceeds the ambient MQU90q_-fgM-00216-00046323-00047072 pressure in the liquid topic tissue half MQU90q_-fgM-00217-00047073-00047657 times if an exponential uptake of gas is MQU90q_-fgM-00218-00047658-00047843 assumed which is a good approximation of MQU90q_-fgM-00219-00047844-00048047 experimental values for diffusion in non MQU90q_-fgM-00220-00048048-00048251 living homogeneous materials half time MQU90q_-fgM-00221-00048252-00048431 of a tissue is the time it takes for the MQU90q_-fgM-00222-00048432-00048626 tissue to take up or release 50 percent MQU90q_-fgM-00223-00048627-00048758 of the difference in dissolved gas MQU90q_-fgM-00224-00048759-00048941 capacity at a change partial pressure MQU90q_-fgM-00225-00048942-00049199 for each consecutive half time the MQU90q_-fgM-00226-00049200-00049361 tissue will take up or release half MQU90q_-fgM-00227-00049362-00049520 again of the cumulative difference in MQU90q_-fgM-00228-00049521-00049658 the sequence one half three quarters MQU90q_-fgM-00229-00049659-00049934 seven eighths fifteen sixteenths 31 MQU90q_-fgM-00230-00049935-00050147 thirty Seconds sixty three sixty fourths MQU90q_-fgM-00231-00050148-00050432 etc the number of half times chosen to MQU90q_-fgM-00232-00050433-00050630 assume full saturation depends on the MQU90q_-fgM-00233-00050631-00050822 decompression model and typically ranges MQU90q_-fgM-00234-00050823-00051131 from 490 3.75 percent to six ninety MQU90q_-fgM-00235-00051132-00051353 eight point four four percent tissue MQU90q_-fgM-00236-00051354-00051545 compartment 1/2 times range from one MQU90q_-fgM-00237-00051546-00051878 minute to at least 720 minutes for MQU90q_-fgM-00238-00051879-00052097 example a five minute tissue will be 50 MQU90q_-fgM-00239-00052098-00052342 percent saturated in five minutes 75 MQU90q_-fgM-00240-00052344-00052541 percent in 10 minutes eighty-seven point MQU90q_-fgM-00241-00052541-00052721 five percent in 15 minutes and for MQU90q_-fgM-00242-00052722-00052946 practical purposes saturated in about 30 MQU90q_-fgM-00243-00052947-00053101 minutes ninety eight point four four MQU90q_-fgM-00244-00053102-00053312 percent saturated at six half times a MQU90q_-fgM-00245-00053313-00053486 specific tissue compartment will have MQU90q_-fgM-00246-00053487-00053648 different half times for gases with MQU90q_-fgM-00247-00053649-00053806 different solubilities and diffusion MQU90q_-fgM-00248-00053807-00054037 rates this model may not adequately MQU90q_-fgM-00249-00054038-00054232 describe the dynamics of outgassing if MQU90q_-fgM-00250-00054233-00054971 gas phase bubbles are present topic MQU90q_-fgM-00251-00054972-00055567 outgassing of tissues gas remains MQU90q_-fgM-00252-00055569-00055724 dissolved in the tissues until the MQU90q_-fgM-00253-00055725-00055867 partial pressure of that gas in the MQU90q_-fgM-00254-00055869-00056032 lungs is reduced sufficiently to cause a MQU90q_-fgM-00255-00056033-00056216 concentration gradient with the blood at MQU90q_-fgM-00256-00056216-00056387 a lower concentration than the relevant MQU90q_-fgM-00257-00056388-00056632 tissues a lowered partial pressure in MQU90q_-fgM-00258-00056633-00056776 the lungs will result in more gas MQU90q_-fgM-00259-00056777-00056944 diffusing out of the blood into the lung MQU90q_-fgM-00260-00056945-00057106 gues and less from the lung gas into the MQU90q_-fgM-00261-00057107-00057386 blood a similar situation occurs between MQU90q_-fgM-00262-00057387-00057560 the blood and each tissue as the MQU90q_-fgM-00263-00057561-00057725 concentration in the blood drops below MQU90q_-fgM-00264-00057726-00057907 the concentration in the adjacent tissue MQU90q_-fgM-00265-00057908-00058079 the gas will diffuse out of the tissue MQU90q_-fgM-00266-00058079-00058216 into the blood and will then be MQU90q_-fgM-00267-00058217-00058379 transported back to the lungs where it MQU90q_-fgM-00268-00058379-00058531 will diffuse into the lung gas and then MQU90q_-fgM-00269-00058532-00058778 be illuminated by exhalation if the MQU90q_-fgM-00270-00058779-00058946 ambient pressure reduction is limited MQU90q_-fgM-00271-00058947-00059143 this desaturation will take place in the MQU90q_-fgM-00272-00059144-00059305 dissolved phase but if the ambient MQU90q_-fgM-00273-00059307-00059479 pressure is lowered sufficiently bubbles MQU90q_-fgM-00274-00059480-00059650 may form and grow both in blood and MQU90q_-fgM-00275-00059651-00059828 other supersaturated tissues when the MQU90q_-fgM-00276-00059829-00060011 gas in a tissue is at a concentration MQU90q_-fgM-00277-00060012-00060151 where more diffuses out than in the MQU90q_-fgM-00278-00060152-00060343 tissue is said to be supersaturated with MQU90q_-fgM-00279-00060344-00060466 that gas relative to the surrounding MQU90q_-fgM-00280-00060467-00060775 tissues super saturation can also be MQU90q_-fgM-00281-00060776-00060938 defined as when the combined partial MQU90q_-fgM-00282-00060939-00061103 pressures of gases dissolved in a tissue MQU90q_-fgM-00283-00061104-00061291 exceeds the total ambient pressure on MQU90q_-fgM-00284-00061292-00061436 the tissue and there is a theoretical MQU90q_-fgM-00285-00061437-00061628 possibility of bubble formation or MQU90q_-fgM-00286-00061629-00062782 growth topic inherent unsaturation there MQU90q_-fgM-00287-00062783-00062963 is a metabolic reduction of total gas MQU90q_-fgM-00288-00062964-00063185 pressure in the tissues the sum of MQU90q_-fgM-00289-00063186-00063343 partial pressures of the gas that the MQU90q_-fgM-00290-00063344-00063526 diver breathes must necessarily balance MQU90q_-fgM-00291-00063527-00063688 with the sum of partial pressures in the MQU90q_-fgM-00292-00063689-00063974 lung gas in the alveoli the gas has been MQU90q_-fgM-00293-00063975-00064141 humidified by a partial pressure of MQU90q_-fgM-00294-00064142-00064403 approximately 63 millibars 47 MQU90q_-fgM-00295-00064404-00064567 millimeters of mercury and has gained MQU90q_-fgM-00296-00064569-00064816 about 55 millibars 41 millimeters of MQU90q_-fgM-00297-00064817-00065017 mercury carbon dioxide from the venous MQU90q_-fgM-00298-00065019-00065297 blood oxygen has also diffused into the MQU90q_-fgM-00299-00065298-00065479 arterial blood reducing the partial MQU90q_-fgM-00300-00065480-00065672 pressure of oxygen in the alveoli by MQU90q_-fgM-00301-00065673-00065930 about 67 millibars 50 millimeters of MQU90q_-fgM-00302-00065931-00066095 mercury as the total pressure in the MQU90q_-fgM-00303-00066096-00066281 alveoli must balance with the ambient MQU90q_-fgM-00304-00066282-00066455 pressure this dilution results in an MQU90q_-fgM-00305-00066456-00066581 effective partial pressure of nitrogen MQU90q_-fgM-00306-00066582-00067016 of about 758 MB 569 millimeters of MQU90q_-fgM-00307-00067017-00067157 mercury in air at normal atmospheric MQU90q_-fgM-00308-00067158-00067361 pressure at a steady state when the MQU90q_-fgM-00309-00067362-00067541 tissues have been saturated by the inert MQU90q_-fgM-00310-00067542-00067732 gases of the breathing mixture metabolic MQU90q_-fgM-00311-00067733-00067910 processes reduce the partial pressure of MQU90q_-fgM-00312-00067911-00068093 the less soluble oxygen and replace it MQU90q_-fgM-00313-00068094-00068240 with carbon dioxide which is MQU90q_-fgM-00314-00068241-00068486 considerably more soluble in water in MQU90q_-fgM-00315-00068487-00068669 the cells of a typical tissue the MQU90q_-fgM-00316-00068670-00068851 partial pressure of oxygen will drop to MQU90q_-fgM-00317-00068852-00069059 around 13 millibars 10 millimeters of MQU90q_-fgM-00318-00069060-00069215 mercury while the partial pressure of MQU90q_-fgM-00319-00069216-00069428 carbon dioxide will be about 65 MQU90q_-fgM-00320-00069429-00069728 millibars 49 millimeters of mercury the MQU90q_-fgM-00321-00069729-00069887 sum of these partial pressures water MQU90q_-fgM-00322-00069888-00070151 oxygen carbon dioxide and nitrogen comes MQU90q_-fgM-00323-00070152-00070490 to roughly 900 millibars 675 millimeters MQU90q_-fgM-00324-00070491-00070742 of mercury which is some 113 millibars MQU90q_-fgM-00325-00070743-00070961 85 millimeters of mercury less than the MQU90q_-fgM-00326-00070962-00071134 total pressure of the respiratory gas MQU90q_-fgM-00327-00071135-00071423 this is a significant saturation deficit MQU90q_-fgM-00328-00071424-00071594 and it provides a buffer against super MQU90q_-fgM-00329-00071595-00071753 saturation and a driving force for MQU90q_-fgM-00330-00071754-00071957 dissolving bubbles experiments suggest MQU90q_-fgM-00331-00071958-00072053 that the degree of unsaturation MQU90q_-fgM-00332-00072054-00072260 increases linearly with pressure for a MQU90q_-fgM-00333-00072261-00072389 breathing mixture of fixed composition MQU90q_-fgM-00334-00072390-00072605 and decreases linearly with fraction of MQU90q_-fgM-00335-00072606-00072836 inert gas in the breathing mixture as a MQU90q_-fgM-00336-00072837-00072992 consequence the conditions for MQU90q_-fgM-00337-00072993-00073136 maximizing the degree of unsaturation MQU90q_-fgM-00338-00073137-00073322 are a breathing gas with the lowest MQU90q_-fgM-00339-00073323-00073538 possible fraction of inert gas ie pure MQU90q_-fgM-00340-00073539-00073685 oxygen at the maximum permissible MQU90q_-fgM-00341-00073686-00073982 partial pressure this saturation deficit MQU90q_-fgM-00342-00073983-00074228 is also referred to as the oxygen window MQU90q_-fgM-00343-00074229-00075032 or partial pressure vacancy topic bubble MQU90q_-fgM-00344-00075033-00075632 formation growth and elimination the MQU90q_-fgM-00345-00075633-00075824 location of micro nuclei or where MQU90q_-fgM-00346-00075825-00076027 bubbles initially form is not known MQU90q_-fgM-00347-00076028-00076253 heterogeneous nucleation and tribo MQU90q_-fgM-00348-00076254-00076403 nucleation are considered the most MQU90q_-fgM-00349-00076404-00076621 likely mechanism for bubble formation MQU90q_-fgM-00350-00076622-00076856 homogeneous nucleation requires much MQU90q_-fgM-00351-00076857-00076991 greater pressure differences than MQU90q_-fgM-00352-00076992-00077141 experienced in decompression the MQU90q_-fgM-00353-00077142-00077378 spontaneous formation of nano bubbles on MQU90q_-fgM-00354-00077379-00077567 hydrophobic surfaces is a possible MQU90q_-fgM-00355-00077568-00077768 source of micro nuclei but it is not yet MQU90q_-fgM-00356-00077769-00077939 clear if these can grow to symptomatic MQU90q_-fgM-00357-00077940-00078119 dimensions as they are very stable the MQU90q_-fgM-00358-00078120-00078290 incorporation of bubble formation and MQU90q_-fgM-00359-00078291-00078455 growth mechanisms in decompression MQU90q_-fgM-00360-00078456-00078596 models may make the models more MQU90q_-fgM-00361-00078597-00078725 biophysical and allow better MQU90q_-fgM-00362-00078726-00078911 extrapolation flow conditions and MQU90q_-fgM-00363-00078912-00079085 perfusion rates are dominant parameters MQU90q_-fgM-00364-00079086-00079241 in competition between tissue and MQU90q_-fgM-00365-00079242-00079319 circulation MQU90q_-fgM-00366-00079320-00079499 and between multiple bubbles for MQU90q_-fgM-00367-00079500-00080222 dissolved gas for bubble growth topic MQU90q_-fgM-00368-00080223-00080786 bubble mechanics equilibrium of forces MQU90q_-fgM-00369-00080787-00080999 on the surface is required for a bubble MQU90q_-fgM-00370-00081000-00081067 to exist MQU90q_-fgM-00371-00081068-00081422 these are ambient pressure exerted on MQU90q_-fgM-00372-00081423-00081581 the outside of the surface acting MQU90q_-fgM-00373-00081582-00081800 inwards pressure due to tissue MQU90q_-fgM-00374-00081801-00081989 distortion also on the outside and MQU90q_-fgM-00375-00081990-00082247 acting inwards surface tension of the MQU90q_-fgM-00376-00082248-00082388 liquid at the interface between the MQU90q_-fgM-00377-00082389-00082601 bubble and the surroundings this is MQU90q_-fgM-00378-00082602-00082763 along the surface of the bubble so the MQU90q_-fgM-00379-00082764-00082922 resultant acts towards the center of MQU90q_-fgM-00380-00082923-00083153 curvature this will tend to squeeze the MQU90q_-fgM-00381-00083154-00083309 bubble and is more severe for small MQU90q_-fgM-00382-00083310-00083483 bubbles as it is an inverse function of MQU90q_-fgM-00383-00083484-00083765 the radius the resulting forces must be MQU90q_-fgM-00384-00083766-00083906 balanced by the pressure on the inside MQU90q_-fgM-00385-00083907-00084134 of the bubble this is the sum of the MQU90q_-fgM-00386-00084135-00084284 partial pressures of the gases inside MQU90q_-fgM-00387-00084285-00084476 due to the net diffusion of gas to and MQU90q_-fgM-00388-00084477-00084725 from the bubble the force balance in the MQU90q_-fgM-00389-00084726-00084896 bubble may be modified by a layer of MQU90q_-fgM-00390-00084897-00085064 surface active molecules which can MQU90q_-fgM-00391-00085065-00085262 stabilize a micro bubble at a size where MQU90q_-fgM-00392-00085263-00085433 surface tension on a clean bubble would MQU90q_-fgM-00393-00085434-00085673 cause it to collapse rapidly this MQU90q_-fgM-00394-00085674-00085847 surface layer may vary in permeability MQU90q_-fgM-00395-00085848-00086057 so that if the bubble is compressed it MQU90q_-fgM-00396-00086058-00086237 may become impermeable to diffusion at MQU90q_-fgM-00397-00086238-00086387 sufficient compression if the solvent MQU90q_-fgM-00398-00086388-00086567 outside the bubble is saturated or MQU90q_-fgM-00399-00086568-00086759 unsaturated the partial pressure will be MQU90q_-fgM-00400-00086760-00086909 less than in the bubble and the surface MQU90q_-fgM-00401-00086910-00087077 tension will be increasing the internal MQU90q_-fgM-00402-00087078-00087254 pressure in direct proportion to surface MQU90q_-fgM-00403-00087255-00087416 curvature providing a pressure gradient MQU90q_-fgM-00404-00087417-00087584 to increase diffusion out of the bubble MQU90q_-fgM-00405-00087585-00087827 effectively squeezing the gas out of the MQU90q_-fgM-00406-00087828-00088034 bubble and the smaller the bubble the MQU90q_-fgM-00407-00088035-00088271 faster it will get squeezed out a gas MQU90q_-fgM-00408-00088272-00088430 bubble can only grow at constant MQU90q_-fgM-00409-00088431-00088595 pressure if the surrounding solvent is MQU90q_-fgM-00410-00088596-00088787 sufficiently supersaturated to overcome MQU90q_-fgM-00411-00088788-00088958 the surface tension or if the surface MQU90q_-fgM-00412-00088959-00089135 layer provides sufficient reaction to MQU90q_-fgM-00413-00089136-00089324 overcome surface tension clean bubbles MQU90q_-fgM-00414-00089325-00089453 that are sufficiently small will MQU90q_-fgM-00415-00089454-00089615 collapse due to surface tension if the MQU90q_-fgM-00416-00089616-00089873 super saturation is low bubbles with MQU90q_-fgM-00417-00089874-00090041 semi permeable surfaces will either MQU90q_-fgM-00418-00090042-00090263 stabilize at a specific radius depending MQU90q_-fgM-00419-00090264-00090419 on the pressure the composition of the MQU90q_-fgM-00420-00090420-00090590 surface layer and the super saturation MQU90q_-fgM-00421-00090591-00090776 or continue to grow indefinitely if MQU90q_-fgM-00422-00090777-00091505 larger than the critical radius topic MQU90q_-fgM-00423-00091506-00092066 bubble nucleation bubble formation MQU90q_-fgM-00424-00092067-00092312 occurs in the blood or other tissues one MQU90q_-fgM-00425-00092313-00092483 of the hypothetical loci bubble MQU90q_-fgM-00426-00092484-00092654 nucleation is in crevice in macro MQU90q_-fgM-00427-00092655-00092719 molecule MQU90q_-fgM-00428-00092720-00092867 a solvent can carry a supersaturated MQU90q_-fgM-00429-00092868-00093142 load of gas in solution whether it will MQU90q_-fgM-00430-00093143-00093301 come out of solution in the bulk of the MQU90q_-fgM-00431-00093302-00093485 solvent to form bubbles will depend on a MQU90q_-fgM-00432-00093486-00093710 number of factors something which MQU90q_-fgM-00433-00093711-00093923 reduces surface tension or its orbs gas MQU90q_-fgM-00434-00093924-00094154 molecules or locally reduces solubility MQU90q_-fgM-00435-00094155-00094349 of the gas or causes a local reduction MQU90q_-fgM-00436-00094350-00094531 in static pressure in a fluid may result MQU90q_-fgM-00437-00094532-00094721 in a bubble nucleation or growth MQU90q_-fgM-00438-00094722-00094961 this may include velocity changes in MQU90q_-fgM-00439-00094962-00095153 turbulence in fluids and local tensile MQU90q_-fgM-00440-00095154-00095437 loads in solids and semi solids lipids MQU90q_-fgM-00441-00095438-00095611 and other hydrophobic surfaces may MQU90q_-fgM-00442-00095612-00095792 reduce surface tension blood vessel MQU90q_-fgM-00443-00095793-00096049 walls may have this effect dehydration MQU90q_-fgM-00444-00096050-00096238 may reduce gas solubility in a tissue MQU90q_-fgM-00445-00096239-00096418 due to higher concentration of other MQU90q_-fgM-00446-00096419-00096613 solutes and less solvent to hold the gas MQU90q_-fgM-00447-00096614-00096811 another Theory presumes that microscopic MQU90q_-fgM-00448-00096812-00097010 bubble nuclei always exist in aqueous MQU90q_-fgM-00449-00097011-00097292 media including living tissues these MQU90q_-fgM-00450-00097293-00097486 bubble nuclei are spherical gas phases MQU90q_-fgM-00451-00097487-00097640 that are small enough to remain in MQU90q_-fgM-00452-00097641-00097807 suspension yet strong enough to resist MQU90q_-fgM-00453-00097808-00097979 collapse their stability being provided MQU90q_-fgM-00454-00097980-00098176 by an elastic surface layer consisting MQU90q_-fgM-00455-00098177-00098342 of surface active molecules which MQU90q_-fgM-00456-00098343-00098992 resists the effect of surface tension MQU90q_-fgM-00457-00098993-00099655 topic bubble growth once a micro bubble MQU90q_-fgM-00458-00099656-00099824 forms it may continue to grow if the MQU90q_-fgM-00459-00099825-00100079 tissues are still supersaturated as the MQU90q_-fgM-00460-00100080-00100213 bubble grows it may distort the MQU90q_-fgM-00461-00100214-00100375 surrounding tissue and cause damage to MQU90q_-fgM-00462-00100376-00100559 cells and pressure on nerves resulting MQU90q_-fgM-00463-00100560-00100709 in pain or may block a blood vessel MQU90q_-fgM-00464-00100710-00100879 cutting off blood flow and causing MQU90q_-fgM-00465-00100880-00101090 hypoxia in the tissues normally perfused MQU90q_-fgM-00466-00101091-00101315 by the vessel bubbles can also damage MQU90q_-fgM-00467-00101316-00101474 the vascular endothelium through MQU90q_-fgM-00468-00101475-00101650 ischemia and reperfusion physical MQU90q_-fgM-00469-00101651-00101816 contact with the endothelium or by MQU90q_-fgM-00470-00101817-00102071 physical deformation this damage may MQU90q_-fgM-00471-00102072-00102248 release endothelial membrane micro MQU90q_-fgM-00472-00102249-00102398 particles if a bubble or an object MQU90q_-fgM-00473-00102399-00102610 exists which collects gas molecules this MQU90q_-fgM-00474-00102611-00102802 collection of gas molecules may reach a MQU90q_-fgM-00475-00102803-00102979 size where the internal pressure exceeds MQU90q_-fgM-00476-00102980-00103124 the combined surface tension and MQU90q_-fgM-00477-00103125-00103264 external pressure and the bubble will MQU90q_-fgM-00478-00103265-00103492 grow if the solvent is sufficiently MQU90q_-fgM-00479-00103493-00103700 supersaturated the diffusion of gas into MQU90q_-fgM-00480-00103701-00103838 the bubble will exceed the rate at which MQU90q_-fgM-00481-00103839-00104032 it diffuses back into solution and if MQU90q_-fgM-00482-00104033-00104189 this excess pressure is greater than the MQU90q_-fgM-00483-00104190-00104341 pressure due to surface tension the MQU90q_-fgM-00484-00104342-00104557 bubble will continue to grow when a MQU90q_-fgM-00485-00104558-00104699 bubble grows the surface tension MQU90q_-fgM-00486-00104700-00104870 decreases and the interior pressure MQU90q_-fgM-00487-00104871-00105091 drops allowing gas to diffuse in faster MQU90q_-fgM-00488-00105092-00105281 and diffuse out slower so the bubble MQU90q_-fgM-00489-00105282-00105443 grows or shrinks in a positive feedback MQU90q_-fgM-00490-00105444-00105727 situation the growth rate is reduced as MQU90q_-fgM-00491-00105728-00105875 the bubble grows because the surface MQU90q_-fgM-00492-00105876-00106036 area increases as the square of the MQU90q_-fgM-00493-00106038-00106084 radius MQU90q_-fgM-00494-00106085-00106247 while the volume increases as the cube MQU90q_-fgM-00495-00106248-00106472 of the radius if the external pressure MQU90q_-fgM-00496-00106473-00106691 is reduced due to reduced hydrostatic MQU90q_-fgM-00497-00106692-00106850 pressure during ascent the bubble will MQU90q_-fgM-00498-00106851-00107057 also grow and conversely an increased MQU90q_-fgM-00499-00107058-00107222 external pressure will cause the bubble MQU90q_-fgM-00500-00107223-00107378 to shrink but may not cause it to be MQU90q_-fgM-00501-00107379-00107536 eliminated entirely if a compression MQU90q_-fgM-00502-00107538-00107726 resistant surface layer exists the MQU90q_-fgM-00503-00107727-00107906 variable permeability model ordering MQU90q_-fgM-00504-00107907-00108083 hypothesis states that nuclei and MQU90q_-fgM-00505-00108083-00108259 neither created nor totally eliminated MQU90q_-fgM-00506-00108260-00108391 during the pressure cycle and the MQU90q_-fgM-00507-00108392-00108563 initial ordering according to size is MQU90q_-fgM-00508-00108564-00108827 preserved therefore each bubble count is MQU90q_-fgM-00509-00108828-00109003 determined by the properties in behavior MQU90q_-fgM-00510-00109004-00109244 of a nominal critical nucleus which is MQU90q_-fgM-00511-00109245-00109427 at the threshold of bubble formation all MQU90q_-fgM-00512-00109428-00109636 larger nuclei will form bubbles and all MQU90q_-fgM-00513-00109638-00110399 smaller nuclei will not topic bubble MQU90q_-fgM-00514-00110400-00110921 distribution decompression bubbles MQU90q_-fgM-00515-00110922-00111083 appear to form mostly in the systemic MQU90q_-fgM-00516-00111083-00111239 capillaries where the gas concentration MQU90q_-fgM-00517-00111240-00111452 is highest often those feeding the veins MQU90q_-fgM-00518-00111453-00111691 draining the active limbs they do not MQU90q_-fgM-00519-00111692-00111875 generally form in the arteries provided MQU90q_-fgM-00520-00111876-00112015 that ambient pressure reduction is not MQU90q_-fgM-00521-00112016-00112226 too rapid as arterial blood has recently MQU90q_-fgM-00522-00112227-00112408 had the opportunity to release excess MQU90q_-fgM-00523-00112409-00112658 gas into the lungs the bubbles carried MQU90q_-fgM-00524-00112658-00112802 back to the heart in the veins may be MQU90q_-fgM-00525-00112803-00112958 transferred to the systemic circulation MQU90q_-fgM-00526-00112958-00113213 via a patent foramen ovale in divers MQU90q_-fgM-00527-00113214-00113378 with this septal defect after which MQU90q_-fgM-00528-00113379-00113509 there is a risk of occlusion of MQU90q_-fgM-00529-00113510-00113657 capillaries in whichever part of the MQU90q_-fgM-00530-00113658-00113825 body they end up in bubbles are also MQU90q_-fgM-00531-00113826-00114016 known to form within other tissues where MQU90q_-fgM-00532-00114017-00114154 they may cause damage leading to MQU90q_-fgM-00533-00114155-00114395 symptoms of decompression sickness this MQU90q_-fgM-00534-00114396-00114545 damage is likely to be caused by MQU90q_-fgM-00535-00114546-00114749 mechanical deformation and stresses on MQU90q_-fgM-00536-00114750-00114926 the cells rather than local hypoxia MQU90q_-fgM-00537-00114927-00115090 which is an assumed mechanism in the MQU90q_-fgM-00538-00115091-00115753 case of gas embolism of the capillaries MQU90q_-fgM-00539-00115754-00116383 topic bubble elimination bubbles which MQU90q_-fgM-00540-00116384-00116515 are carried back to the heart in the MQU90q_-fgM-00541-00116516-00116686 veins will normally pass into the right MQU90q_-fgM-00542-00116688-00116840 side of the heart and from there they MQU90q_-fgM-00543-00116841-00116965 will normally enter the pulmonary MQU90q_-fgM-00544-00116966-00117154 circulation and eventually pass through MQU90q_-fgM-00545-00117155-00117310 or be trapped in the capillaries of the MQU90q_-fgM-00546-00117311-00117476 lungs which are around the alveoli and MQU90q_-fgM-00547-00117477-00117683 very near to the respiratory gas where MQU90q_-fgM-00548-00117683-00117827 the gas will diffuse from the bubbles MQU90q_-fgM-00549-00117828-00117979 though the capillary and alveolar walls MQU90q_-fgM-00550-00117980-00118214 into the gas in the lung if the number MQU90q_-fgM-00551-00118215-00118349 of lung capillaries blocked by these MQU90q_-fgM-00552-00118350-00118547 bubbles is relatively small the diver MQU90q_-fgM-00553-00118548-00118733 will not display symptoms and no tissue MQU90q_-fgM-00554-00118733-00118889 will be damaged lung tissues are MQU90q_-fgM-00555-00118890-00119086 adequately oxygenated by diffusion the MQU90q_-fgM-00556-00119088-00119219 bubbles which are small enough to pass MQU90q_-fgM-00557-00119220-00119363 through the lung capillaries may be MQU90q_-fgM-00558-00119364-00119533 small enough to be dissolved due to a MQU90q_-fgM-00559-00119534-00119699 combination of surface tension and MQU90q_-fgM-00560-00119700-00119876 diffusion to a lowered concentration in MQU90q_-fgM-00561-00119877-00120026 the surrounding blood though the varying MQU90q_-fgM-00562-00120027-00120218 permeability model nucleation theory MQU90q_-fgM-00563-00120219-00120377 implies that most bubbles passing MQU90q_-fgM-00564-00120378-00120539 through the pulmonary circulation will MQU90q_-fgM-00565-00120540-00120689 lose enough gas to pass through the MQU90q_-fgM-00566-00120690-00120835 capillaries and return to the systemic MQU90q_-fgM-00567-00120836-00121043 circulation as recycled but stable MQU90q_-fgM-00568-00121044-00121210 nuclei bubbles which form within the MQU90q_-fgM-00569-00121211-00121403 tissues must be eliminated in situ by MQU90q_-fgM-00570-00121404-00121574 diffusion which implies a suitable MQU90q_-fgM-00571-00121575-00122363 concentration gradient topic isobaric MQU90q_-fgM-00572-00122364-00123047 counter diffusion ICD isobaric counter MQU90q_-fgM-00573-00123048-00123218 diffusion is the diffusion of gases in MQU90q_-fgM-00574-00123219-00123391 opposite directions caused by a change MQU90q_-fgM-00575-00123392-00123533 in the composition of the external MQU90q_-fgM-00576-00123533-00123695 ambient gas or breathing gas without MQU90q_-fgM-00577-00123696-00123938 change in the ambient pressure during MQU90q_-fgM-00578-00123939-00124118 decompression after a dive this can MQU90q_-fgM-00579-00124119-00124265 occur when a change is made to the MQU90q_-fgM-00580-00124266-00124427 breathing gas or when the diver moves MQU90q_-fgM-00581-00124428-00124589 into a gas filled environment which MQU90q_-fgM-00582-00124590-00124757 differs from the breathing gas while not MQU90q_-fgM-00583-00124758-00124901 strictly speaking a phenomenon of MQU90q_-fgM-00584-00124902-00125072 decompression it is a complication that MQU90q_-fgM-00585-00125073-00125252 can occur during decompression and that MQU90q_-fgM-00586-00125253-00125429 can result in the formation or growth of MQU90q_-fgM-00587-00125430-00125560 bubbles without changes in the MQU90q_-fgM-00588-00125561-00125815 environmental pressure two forms of this MQU90q_-fgM-00589-00125816-00125959 phenomenon have been described by MQU90q_-fgM-00590-00125960-00126229 Lambertson superficial ICD also known as MQU90q_-fgM-00591-00126230-00126389 steady state isobaric counter diffusion MQU90q_-fgM-00592-00126390-00126589 occurs when the inert gas breed by the MQU90q_-fgM-00593-00126590-00126803 diver diffuses more slowly into the body MQU90q_-fgM-00594-00126804-00126968 than the inert gas surrounding the body MQU90q_-fgM-00595-00126969-00127135 an example of this would be breathing MQU90q_-fgM-00596-00127136-00127397 air in a helix environment the helium in MQU90q_-fgM-00597-00127398-00127585 the helix diffuses into the skin quickly MQU90q_-fgM-00598-00127586-00127789 while the nitrogen diffuses more slowly MQU90q_-fgM-00599-00127790-00127958 from the capillaries to the skin and out MQU90q_-fgM-00600-00127958-00128153 of the body the resulting effect MQU90q_-fgM-00601-00128154-00128372 generates super saturation in certain MQU90q_-fgM-00602-00128373-00128546 sites of the superficial tissues in the MQU90q_-fgM-00603-00128547-00128734 formation of inert gas bubbles deep MQU90q_-fgM-00604-00128735-00128954 tissue ICD also known as transient MQU90q_-fgM-00605-00128955-00129146 isobaric counter diffusion occurs when MQU90q_-fgM-00606-00129147-00129299 different inert gases are breathed by MQU90q_-fgM-00607-00129300-00129533 the diver in sequence the rapidly MQU90q_-fgM-00608-00129533-00129715 diffusing gas is transported into the MQU90q_-fgM-00609-00129716-00129835 tissue faster than this MQU90q_-fgM-00610-00129836-00130022 flower defusing gas is transported out MQU90q_-fgM-00611-00130023-00130202 of the tissue this can occur as divers MQU90q_-fgM-00612-00130203-00130358 switch from a nitrogen mixture to a MQU90q_-fgM-00613-00130358-00130571 helium mixture diffusivity of helium is MQU90q_-fgM-00614-00130572-00130759 two point six five times faster than MQU90q_-fgM-00615-00130760-00130952 nitrogen or when saturation divers MQU90q_-fgM-00616-00130953-00131138 breathing hydraulics switched to a helix MQU90q_-fgM-00617-00131139-00131300 mixture there is another effect which MQU90q_-fgM-00618-00131301-00131444 can manifest as a result of the MQU90q_-fgM-00619-00131445-00131636 disparity in solubility between inert MQU90q_-fgM-00620-00131637-00131801 breathing gas dillion's which occurs in MQU90q_-fgM-00621-00131802-00131960 isobaric gas switches near the MQU90q_-fgM-00622-00131961-00132113 decompression ceiling between a low MQU90q_-fgM-00623-00132114-00132323 solubility gas typically helium and a MQU90q_-fgM-00624-00132324-00132542 higher solubility gas typically nitrogen MQU90q_-fgM-00625-00132543-00132707 and inner-ear decompression model by MQU90q_-fgM-00626-00132708-00132854 Gillette and Mitchell suggests that a MQU90q_-fgM-00627-00132855-00133043 transient increase in gas tension after MQU90q_-fgM-00628-00133044-00133214 a switch from helium to nitrogen in MQU90q_-fgM-00629-00133215-00133358 breathing gas may result from the MQU90q_-fgM-00630-00133359-00133502 difference in gas transfer between MQU90q_-fgM-00631-00133503-00133745 compartments if the transport of MQU90q_-fgM-00632-00133746-00133925 nitrogen into the vascular compartment MQU90q_-fgM-00633-00133926-00134126 by perfusion exceeds removal of helium MQU90q_-fgM-00634-00134127-00134318 by perfusion while transfer of helium MQU90q_-fgM-00635-00134319-00134459 into the vascular compartment by MQU90q_-fgM-00636-00134460-00134629 diffusion from the Paralympian endolymph MQU90q_-fgM-00637-00134630-00134774 exceeds the counter diffusion of MQU90q_-fgM-00638-00134775-00134957 nitrogen this may result in a temporary MQU90q_-fgM-00639-00134958-00135149 increase in total gas tension as the MQU90q_-fgM-00640-00135150-00135341 input of nitrogen exceeds the removal of MQU90q_-fgM-00641-00135342-00135494 helium which can result in bubble MQU90q_-fgM-00642-00135495-00135764 formation and growth this model suggests MQU90q_-fgM-00643-00135765-00135923 that diffusion of gases from the middle MQU90q_-fgM-00644-00135924-00136054 here across the round window is MQU90q_-fgM-00645-00136055-00136301 negligible the model is not necessarily MQU90q_-fgM-00646-00136302-00136508 applicable to all tissue types Lambert's MQU90q_-fgM-00647-00136509-00136712 and made suggestions to help avoid ICD MQU90q_-fgM-00648-00136713-00136997 while diving if the diver is surrounded MQU90q_-fgM-00649-00136998-00137183 by or saturated with nitrogen they MQU90q_-fgM-00650-00137184-00137471 should not breathe helium rich gases gas MQU90q_-fgM-00651-00137472-00137639 switches that involve going from helium MQU90q_-fgM-00652-00137640-00137831 rich mixtures to nitrogen rich mixtures MQU90q_-fgM-00653-00137832-00137993 would be acceptable but changes from MQU90q_-fgM-00654-00137994-00138143 nitrogen to helium should include MQU90q_-fgM-00655-00138144-00138338 recompression however do let in Michels MQU90q_-fgM-00656-00138339-00138479 more recent study of inner-ear MQU90q_-fgM-00657-00138480-00138749 decompression sickness ie DCs shows that MQU90q_-fgM-00658-00138750-00138904 the inner ear may not be well modeled by MQU90q_-fgM-00659-00138905-00139204 common eg Bullman algorithms do lead and MQU90q_-fgM-00660-00139205-00139358 Mitchell proposed that a switch from a MQU90q_-fgM-00661-00139359-00139550 helium rich mix to a nitrogen rich mix MQU90q_-fgM-00662-00139551-00139739 as is common in technical diving when MQU90q_-fgM-00663-00139740-00139913 switching from true mix to nitrox on MQU90q_-fgM-00664-00139914-00140081 ascent may cause a transient super MQU90q_-fgM-00665-00140082-00140261 saturation of inert gas within the inner MQU90q_-fgM-00666-00140262-00140585 ear and result in ie DCs they suggest MQU90q_-fgM-00667-00140586-00140744 that breathing gas switches from helium MQU90q_-fgM-00668-00140745-00140924 rich to nitrogen rich mixtures should be MQU90q_-fgM-00669-00140925-00141104 carefully scheduled either deep with due MQU90q_-fgM-00670-00141105-00141308 consideration to nitrogen narcosis or MQU90q_-fgM-00671-00141309-00141476 shallow to avoid the period of maximum MQU90q_-fgM-00672-00141477-00141665 super saturation resulting from the MQU90q_-fgM-00673-00141666-00141902 decompression switches should also be MQU90q_-fgM-00674-00141903-00142043 made during breathing of the largest MQU90q_-fgM-00675-00142044-00142244 inspired oxygen partial pressure that MQU90q_-fgM-00676-00142245-00142394 can be safely tolerated with due MQU90q_-fgM-00677-00142395-00142591 consideration to oxygen toxicity a MQU90q_-fgM-00678-00142592-00142760 similar hypothesis to explain the MQU90q_-fgM-00679-00142761-00142973 incidence of ie dcs when switching from MQU90q_-fgM-00680-00142974-00143168 trim externa trucks was proposed by MQU90q_-fgM-00681-00143169-00143237 Steve Burton MQU90q_-fgM-00682-00143238-00143387 who considered the effect of the much MQU90q_-fgM-00683-00143388-00143564 greater solubility of nitrogen than MQU90q_-fgM-00684-00143565-00143759 helium in producing transient increases MQU90q_-fgM-00685-00143760-00143939 in total inert gas pressure which could MQU90q_-fgM-00686-00143940-00144149 lead to dcs under isobaric conditions MQU90q_-fgM-00687-00144150-00144329 burden argues that effect of switching MQU90q_-fgM-00688-00144330-00144464 to night rocks from trimmings with a MQU90q_-fgM-00689-00144465-00144644 large increase of nitrogen fraction at MQU90q_-fgM-00690-00144645-00144797 constant pressure has the effect of MQU90q_-fgM-00691-00144798-00144965 increasing the overall gas loading MQU90q_-fgM-00692-00144966-00145130 within particularly the faster tissues MQU90q_-fgM-00693-00145131-00145301 since the loss of helium is more than MQU90q_-fgM-00694-00145302-00145474 compensated by the increase in nitrogen MQU90q_-fgM-00695-00145475-00145697 this could cause a media bubble MQU90q_-fgM-00696-00145698-00145889 formation and growth in the fast tissues MQU90q_-fgM-00697-00145890-00146189 a simple rule for avoidance of ICD when MQU90q_-fgM-00698-00146190-00146372 gas switching at a decompression sealing MQU90q_-fgM-00699-00146373-00146627 is suggested any increase in gas MQU90q_-fgM-00700-00146628-00146756 fraction of nitrogen in the MQU90q_-fgM-00701-00146757-00146915 decompression gas should be limited to MQU90q_-fgM-00702-00146916-00147068 one fifth of the decrease in gas MQU90q_-fgM-00703-00147069-00147248 fraction of helium this rule has been MQU90q_-fgM-00704-00147249-00147443 found to successfully avoid ICD on MQU90q_-fgM-00705-00147444-00148202 hundreds of deep Tremec styves topic MQU90q_-fgM-00706-00148203-00148400 ultrasonic bubble detection in MQU90q_-fgM-00707-00148401-00148985 decompression research Doppler bubble MQU90q_-fgM-00708-00148986-00149156 detection equipment uses ultrasonic MQU90q_-fgM-00709-00149157-00149360 signals reflected from bubble surfaces MQU90q_-fgM-00710-00149361-00149558 to identify and quantify gas bubbles MQU90q_-fgM-00711-00149559-00149807 present in venous blood this method was MQU90q_-fgM-00712-00149808-00149975 used by dr. Meryl Spencer of the MQU90q_-fgM-00713-00149976-00150152 institute of applied physiology and MQU90q_-fgM-00714-00150153-00150314 medicine in seattle who published a MQU90q_-fgM-00715-00150315-00150572 report in 1976 recommending that the ven MQU90q_-fgM-00716-00150573-00150731 current no decompression limits be MQU90q_-fgM-00717-00150732-00150911 reduced on the basis that large counts MQU90q_-fgM-00718-00150912-00151076 of venous gas bubbles were detected in MQU90q_-fgM-00719-00151077-00151271 divers exposed to the US Navy no MQU90q_-fgM-00720-00151272-00151484 decompression limits these non MQU90q_-fgM-00721-00151485-00151664 symptomatic bubbles have become known as MQU90q_-fgM-00722-00151665-00151940 silent bubbles and afford to contain MQU90q_-fgM-00723-00151941-00152114 nitrogen released from solution during MQU90q_-fgM-00724-00152115-00152315 ascent Doppler detection of venous MQU90q_-fgM-00725-00152316-00152501 bubbles has become an important tool in MQU90q_-fgM-00726-00152502-00152693 decompression research partly because it MQU90q_-fgM-00727-00152694-00152870 allows a non symptomatic endpoint for MQU90q_-fgM-00728-00152871-00153059 experimental work and partly because the MQU90q_-fgM-00729-00153060-00153188 equipment has become relatively MQU90q_-fgM-00730-00153189-00153404 affordable for field surveys on divers MQU90q_-fgM-00731-00153405-00153563 conducting ordinary recreational MQU90q_-fgM-00732-00153564-00153833 technical and professional dives Doppler MQU90q_-fgM-00733-00153834-00154022 bubble detection has also been used in MQU90q_-fgM-00734-00154023-00154214 saturation diving research Doppler MQU90q_-fgM-00735-00154215-00154391 signals for bubbles are generally output MQU90q_-fgM-00736-00154392-00154571 as an audible signal and may be graded MQU90q_-fgM-00737-00154572-00154721 according to the spencer scale or the MQU90q_-fgM-00738-00154722-00154982 kismet muscial scale the spencer scale MQU90q_-fgM-00739-00154983-00155171 was developed by Spencer and Johansson MQU90q_-fgM-00740-00155172-00155456 in 1974 and recognizes five grades of MQU90q_-fgM-00741-00155457-00155597 bubbles signal against the background MQU90q_-fgM-00742-00155598-00155933 sounds of cardiac function grade zero no MQU90q_-fgM-00743-00155934-00156185 bubbles signals detected gray dye MQU90q_-fgM-00744-00156186-00156392 occasional bubbles signals detected the MQU90q_-fgM-00745-00156393-00156587 majority of cardiac cycles are bubble MQU90q_-fgM-00746-00156588-00156663 free MQU90q_-fgM-00747-00156664-00156906 grade too many but less than half of the MQU90q_-fgM-00748-00156907-00157129 cardiac cycles contain bubble signals MQU90q_-fgM-00749-00157130-00157419 grade three all cardiac cycles contain MQU90q_-fgM-00750-00157420-00157596 bubble signals but they do not obscure MQU90q_-fgM-00751-00157597-00157914 the signals of cardiac activity grade IV MQU90q_-fgM-00752-00157915-00158082 bubble signals are continuous and MQU90q_-fgM-00753-00158083-00158238 obscure the sounds of normal heart MQU90q_-fgM-00754-00158239-00158421 functions the Akismet muscle scale is MQU90q_-fgM-00755-00158422-00158550 similar and gives a more subtle MQU90q_-fgM-00756-00158551-00158700 gradation of bubbles but is more MQU90q_-fgM-00757-00158701-00158907 difficult to write proficiently the MQU90q_-fgM-00758-00158908-00159096 Spencer scale has been more popular in MQU90q_-fgM-00759-00159097-00159324 practice grade categories are nonlinear MQU90q_-fgM-00760-00159325-00159479 and cannot be averaged precordial MQU90q_-fgM-00761-00159480-00159651 monitoring of the pulmonary artery is MQU90q_-fgM-00762-00159652-00159849 the usual monitoring site as it combines MQU90q_-fgM-00763-00159850-00159996 all the blood returning to the body MQU90q_-fgM-00764-00159997-00160185 before it goes to the lungs so it is MQU90q_-fgM-00765-00160186-00160340 least likely to miss bubbles from a MQU90q_-fgM-00766-00160341-00160506 peripheral source and is most compatible MQU90q_-fgM-00767-00160507-00160737 with the Spencer and kam scales as heart MQU90q_-fgM-00768-00160738-00160971 sounds are clearly audible other sites MQU90q_-fgM-00769-00160972-00161103 which have been used include the MQU90q_-fgM-00770-00161104-00161325 subclavian vein carotid artery femoral MQU90q_-fgM-00771-00161326-00161607 vein and inferior vena cava protocols MQU90q_-fgM-00772-00161608-00161772 for ultrasonic investigation of MQU90q_-fgM-00773-00161773-00161922 decompression bubbles are still in MQU90q_-fgM-00774-00161923-00162057 development and may vary between MQU90q_-fgM-00775-00162058-00162210 researchers other methods of MQU90q_-fgM-00776-00162211-00162390 non-invasive bubble detection include MQU90q_-fgM-00777-00162391-00162576 two-dimensional echocardiography but MQU90q_-fgM-00778-00162577-00162747 Doppler appears to be more sensitive and MQU90q_-fgM-00779-00162748-00162941 picks up smaller bubbles two-dimensional MQU90q_-fgM-00780-00162942-00163103 imaging can provide a cross-sectional MQU90q_-fgM-00781-00163104-00163272 view along a single plane of all four MQU90q_-fgM-00782-00163273-00163401 chambers of the heart and therefore MQU90q_-fgM-00783-00163402-00163590 unlike Doppler which assesses blood MQU90q_-fgM-00784-00163591-00163785 prior to primary filtration by the lungs MQU90q_-fgM-00785-00163786-00163950 can also assess blood which will be MQU90q_-fgM-00786-00163951-00164204 circulated systemically echocardiography MQU90q_-fgM-00787-00164205-00164400 equipment has developed from bulky MQU90q_-fgM-00788-00164401-00164547 laboratory equipment to portable MQU90q_-fgM-00789-00164548-00164685 battery-powered with sufficient MQU90q_-fgM-00790-00164686-00164894 resolution suitable for field studies MQU90q_-fgM-00791-00164895-00165186 transthoracic echocardiogram is suitable MQU90q_-fgM-00792-00165187-00165363 for the sampling used in decompression MQU90q_-fgM-00793-00165364-00165558 studies to identify highly reflective MQU90q_-fgM-00794-00165559-00165803 gas bubbles detection of venous gas MQU90q_-fgM-00795-00165804-00165987 bubbles by ultrasound imaging is a MQU90q_-fgM-00796-00165988-00166185 sensitive but not specific predictor of MQU90q_-fgM-00797-00166186-00166383 adverse effects of decompression similar MQU90q_-fgM-00798-00166384-00166521 to the published relationship between MQU90q_-fgM-00799-00166522-00166677 Doppler detected bubbles and MQU90q_-fgM-00800-00166678-00166926 decompression sickness the correlation MQU90q_-fgM-00801-00166927-00167078 between doppler detected intravascular MQU90q_-fgM-00802-00167079-00167283 bubbles and decompression sickness is MQU90q_-fgM-00803-00167284-00167502 that almost all divers who develop dcs MQU90q_-fgM-00804-00167503-00167688 after a dive produced large numbers of MQU90q_-fgM-00805-00167689-00167903 bubbles but even grade 3 or 4 bubbles MQU90q_-fgM-00806-00167904-00168087 could manifest without signs or symptoms MQU90q_-fgM-00807-00168088-00168303 of DCs and grade zero one and two MQU90q_-fgM-00808-00168304-00168486 bubbles are associated with very low MQU90q_-fgM-00809-00168487-00168768 risk in a series of tests by Sawatzky MQU90q_-fgM-00810-00168769-00168993 grade 3 bubbles were associated with a 5 MQU90q_-fgM-00811-00168994-00169190 percent risk in grade four with about 10 MQU90q_-fgM-00812-00169191-00169269 percent risk MQU90q_-fgM-00813-00169270-00169512 bubbles may occur after exposures that MQU90q_-fgM-00814-00169513-00169713 have very good safety records the MQU90q_-fgM-00815-00169714-00169884 utility of bubble detection is in MQU90q_-fgM-00816-00169885-00170058 assessing relative decompression stress MQU90q_-fgM-00817-00170059-00170274 the value of bubble detection in non MQU90q_-fgM-00818-00170275-00170451 symptomatic divers is that this can be MQU90q_-fgM-00819-00170452-00170643 used as a safer threshold for assessing MQU90q_-fgM-00820-00170644-00170814 acceptable decompression stress than the MQU90q_-fgM-00821-00170815-00170970 incidence of clinical symptoms for MQU90q_-fgM-00822-00170971-00171659 evaluating decompression algorithms MQU90q_-fgM-00823-00171660-00171918 topic decompression sickness and MQU90q_-fgM-00824-00171919-00172476 injuries intravascular bubbles caused MQU90q_-fgM-00825-00172477-00172638 clumping of red blood cells platelets MQU90q_-fgM-00826-00172639-00172865 are used up white blood cells activated MQU90q_-fgM-00827-00172866-00173165 vascular permeability is increased the MQU90q_-fgM-00828-00173166-00173319 gas in a bubble will equilibrate with MQU90q_-fgM-00829-00173320-00173460 the surrounding tissues and will MQU90q_-fgM-00830-00173461-00173678 therefore contain water vapor oxygen and MQU90q_-fgM-00831-00173679-00173936 carbon dioxide as well as the inert gas MQU90q_-fgM-00832-00173937-00174156 vascular bubbles appear to form at the MQU90q_-fgM-00833-00174157-00174302 venous end of capillaries and pass MQU90q_-fgM-00834-00174303-00174444 through the veins to the right side of MQU90q_-fgM-00835-00174445-00174629 the heart and thereafter are circulated MQU90q_-fgM-00836-00174630-00175374 to the lungs topic problems due to MQU90q_-fgM-00837-00175375-00175944 vascular decompression bubbles bubbles MQU90q_-fgM-00838-00175945-00176097 may be trapped in the lung capillaries MQU90q_-fgM-00839-00176098-00176322 temporarily blocking them if this is MQU90q_-fgM-00840-00176323-00176601 severe the symptom called chokes may MQU90q_-fgM-00841-00176602-00176793 occur if the diver has a patent foramen MQU90q_-fgM-00842-00176794-00176958 ovale or a shunt in the pulmonary MQU90q_-fgM-00843-00176959-00177156 circulation bubbles may pass through it MQU90q_-fgM-00844-00177157-00177321 and bypass the pulmonary capillaries to MQU90q_-fgM-00845-00177322-00177549 enter the arterial blood if these MQU90q_-fgM-00846-00177550-00177711 bubbles are not absorbed in the arterial MQU90q_-fgM-00847-00177712-00177890 plasma and lodge in systemic capillaries MQU90q_-fgM-00848-00177891-00178076 that will block the flow of oxygenated MQU90q_-fgM-00849-00178077-00178257 blood to the tissues supplied by those MQU90q_-fgM-00850-00178258-00178425 capillaries and those tissues will be MQU90q_-fgM-00851-00178426-00178754 starved of oxygen moon and Kistler 1988 MQU90q_-fgM-00852-00178755-00178899 concluded that the evidence suggests MQU90q_-fgM-00853-00178900-00179088 that the risk of serious neurological MQU90q_-fgM-00854-00179089-00179358 DCI or early onset DCI is increased in MQU90q_-fgM-00855-00179359-00179508 divers with a resting right to left MQU90q_-fgM-00856-00179509-00179927 shunting no evidence that P fo is MQU90q_-fgM-00857-00179928-00180601 related to mild or late onset bends MQU90q_-fgM-00858-00180602-00181277 topic extravascular bubbles bubbles may MQU90q_-fgM-00859-00181278-00181358 form within MQU90q_-fgM-00860-00181359-00181527 tissues as well as the blood vessels MQU90q_-fgM-00861-00181528-00181804 inert gas can diffuse into bubble nuclei MQU90q_-fgM-00862-00181805-00182053 between tissues in this case the bubbles MQU90q_-fgM-00863-00182054-00182210 can distort and permanently damage the MQU90q_-fgM-00864-00182211-00182476 tissue these bubbles may also compress MQU90q_-fgM-00865-00182477-00182675 nerves as they grow causing pain extra MQU90q_-fgM-00866-00182676-00182870 vascular or top furnace bubbles usually MQU90q_-fgM-00867-00182871-00183052 form in slow tissues such as joints MQU90q_-fgM-00868-00183053-00183196 tendons and muscles shades MQU90q_-fgM-00869-00183197-00183446 direct expansion causes tissue damage MQU90q_-fgM-00870-00183447-00183620 with the release of histamines and their MQU90q_-fgM-00871-00183621-00183899 associated effects biochemical damage MQU90q_-fgM-00872-00183900-00184094 may be as important as or more important MQU90q_-fgM-00873-00184095-00184876 than mechanical effects topic factors MQU90q_-fgM-00874-00184877-00185087 influencing uptake and elimination of MQU90q_-fgM-00875-00185088-00185593 dissolved gases and decompression risk MQU90q_-fgM-00876-00185594-00185837 the exchange of dissolved gases between MQU90q_-fgM-00877-00185838-00186004 the blood and tissues is controlled by MQU90q_-fgM-00878-00186005-00186178 perfusion and to a lesser extent by MQU90q_-fgM-00879-00186179-00186340 diffusion particularly in heterogeneous MQU90q_-fgM-00880-00186341-00186659 tissues the distribution of blood flow MQU90q_-fgM-00881-00186660-00186853 to the tissues is variable and subject MQU90q_-fgM-00882-00186854-00187121 to a variety of influences when the flow MQU90q_-fgM-00883-00187122-00187301 is locally higher that area is dominated MQU90q_-fgM-00884-00187302-00187513 by perfusion and by diffusion when the MQU90q_-fgM-00885-00187514-00187781 flow is low the distribution of flow is MQU90q_-fgM-00886-00187782-00187925 controlled by the mean arterial pressure MQU90q_-fgM-00887-00187926-00188120 and the local vascular resistance and MQU90q_-fgM-00888-00188121-00188321 the arterial pressure depends on cardiac MQU90q_-fgM-00889-00188322-00188526 output and the total vascular resistance MQU90q_-fgM-00890-00188527-00188779 basic vascular resistance is controlled MQU90q_-fgM-00891-00188780-00188953 by the sympathetic nervous system and MQU90q_-fgM-00892-00188954-00189163 metabolites temperature and local and MQU90q_-fgM-00893-00189164-00189340 systemic hormones have secondary and MQU90q_-fgM-00894-00189341-00189521 often localized effects which can vary MQU90q_-fgM-00895-00189522-00189706 considerably with circumstances MQU90q_-fgM-00896-00189707-00189935 peripheral vasoconstriction in cold MQU90q_-fgM-00897-00189936-00190114 water decreases overall heat loss MQU90q_-fgM-00898-00190115-00190288 without increasing oxygen consumption MQU90q_-fgM-00899-00190289-00190477 until shivering begins at which point MQU90q_-fgM-00900-00190478-00190663 oxygen consumption will rise though the MQU90q_-fgM-00901-00190664-00191387 vasoconstriction can persist topic MQU90q_-fgM-00902-00191388-00191912 breathing gas composition the MQU90q_-fgM-00903-00191913-00192071 composition of the breathing gas during MQU90q_-fgM-00904-00192072-00192253 pressure exposure and decompression is MQU90q_-fgM-00905-00192254-00192427 significant in a no gas uptake and MQU90q_-fgM-00906-00192428-00192560 elimination for a given pressure MQU90q_-fgM-00907-00192561-00192838 exposure profile breathing gas mixtures MQU90q_-fgM-00908-00192839-00192974 for diving will typically have a MQU90q_-fgM-00909-00192975-00193141 different gas fraction of nitrogen to MQU90q_-fgM-00910-00193142-00193378 that of air the partial pressure of each MQU90q_-fgM-00911-00193379-00193538 component gas will differ to that of MQU90q_-fgM-00912-00193539-00193726 nitrogen in air at any given depth and MQU90q_-fgM-00913-00193727-00193919 uptake an elimination of each inert gas MQU90q_-fgM-00914-00193920-00194093 component is proportional to the actual MQU90q_-fgM-00915-00194094-00194345 partial pressure over time the two MQU90q_-fgM-00916-00194346-00194501 foremost reasons for use of mixed MQU90q_-fgM-00917-00194502-00194657 breathing gases are the reduction of MQU90q_-fgM-00918-00194658-00194752 nitrogen partial MQU90q_-fgM-00919-00194753-00194950 pressure by dilution with oxygen to make MQU90q_-fgM-00920-00194951-00195170 nitrox mixtures primarily to reduce the MQU90q_-fgM-00921-00195171-00195344 rate of nitrogen uptake during pressure MQU90q_-fgM-00922-00195345-00195557 exposure and the substitution of helium MQU90q_-fgM-00923-00195558-00195727 and occasionally other gases for the MQU90q_-fgM-00924-00195728-00195901 nitrogen to reduce the narcotic effects MQU90q_-fgM-00925-00195902-00196098 under high partial pressure exposure MQU90q_-fgM-00926-00196099-00196327 depending on the proportions of helium MQU90q_-fgM-00927-00196328-00196484 and nitrogen these gases are called MQU90q_-fgM-00928-00196485-00196696 helix if there is no nitrogen or Tremec MQU90q_-fgM-00929-00196697-00196879 sifter is nitrogen and helium along with MQU90q_-fgM-00930-00196880-00197041 the essential oxygen the inert gases MQU90q_-fgM-00931-00197042-00197236 used as substitutes for nitrogen have MQU90q_-fgM-00932-00197237-00197384 different solubility and diffusion MQU90q_-fgM-00933-00197385-00197578 characteristics in living tissues to the MQU90q_-fgM-00934-00197579-00197854 nitrogen they replace for example the MQU90q_-fgM-00935-00197855-00198058 most common inert gas diluent substitute MQU90q_-fgM-00936-00198059-00198221 for nitrogen is helium which is MQU90q_-fgM-00937-00198222-00198391 significantly less soluble in living MQU90q_-fgM-00938-00198392-00198608 tissue but also diffuses faster due to MQU90q_-fgM-00939-00198609-00198766 the relatively small size and mass of MQU90q_-fgM-00940-00198767-00198968 the he atom in comparison with the n2 MQU90q_-fgM-00941-00198969-00199723 molecule topic body temperature and MQU90q_-fgM-00942-00199724-00200287 exercise blood flow to skin and fat are MQU90q_-fgM-00943-00200288-00200461 affected by skin and core temperature MQU90q_-fgM-00944-00200462-00200618 and resting muscle perfusion is MQU90q_-fgM-00945-00200619-00200758 controlled by the temperature of the MQU90q_-fgM-00946-00200759-00201032 muscle itself during exercise increased MQU90q_-fgM-00947-00201033-00201206 flow to the working muscles is often MQU90q_-fgM-00948-00201207-00201356 balanced by reduced flow to other MQU90q_-fgM-00949-00201357-00201559 tissues such as kidneys spleen and liver MQU90q_-fgM-00950-00201560-00201751 blood flow to the muscles is lower in MQU90q_-fgM-00951-00201752-00201964 cold water but exercise keeps the muscle MQU90q_-fgM-00952-00201965-00202135 warm and flow elevated even when the MQU90q_-fgM-00953-00202136-00202360 skin is chilled blood flow to fat MQU90q_-fgM-00954-00202361-00202564 normally increases during exercise but MQU90q_-fgM-00955-00202565-00202741 this is inhibited by immersion in cold MQU90q_-fgM-00956-00202742-00203021 water adaptation to cold reduces the MQU90q_-fgM-00957-00203022-00203209 extreme vasoconstriction which usually MQU90q_-fgM-00958-00203210-00203350 occurs with cold water immersion MQU90q_-fgM-00959-00203351-00203582 variations in perfusion distribution do MQU90q_-fgM-00960-00203583-00203788 not necessarily affect respiratory inert MQU90q_-fgM-00961-00203789-00203959 gas exchange though some gas may be MQU90q_-fgM-00962-00203960-00204154 locally trapped by changes in perfusion MQU90q_-fgM-00963-00204155-00204407 rest in a cold environment will reduce MQU90q_-fgM-00964-00204408-00204598 inert gas exchange from skin fat and MQU90q_-fgM-00965-00204599-00204646 muscle MQU90q_-fgM-00966-00204647-00204811 whereas exercise will increase gas MQU90q_-fgM-00967-00204812-00205052 exchange exercise during decompression MQU90q_-fgM-00968-00205053-00205267 can reduce decompression time and risk MQU90q_-fgM-00969-00205269-00205451 providing bubbles are not present but MQU90q_-fgM-00970-00205452-00205625 can increase risk if bubbles are present MQU90q_-fgM-00971-00205626-00205823 and no gas exchange is least favorable MQU90q_-fgM-00972-00205823-00206014 for the diver who is warm and exercises MQU90q_-fgM-00973-00206015-00206182 at depth during the in gassing phase and MQU90q_-fgM-00974-00206183-00206848 rests in is cold during decompression MQU90q_-fgM-00975-00206848-00207490 topic other factors other factors which MQU90q_-fgM-00976-00207491-00207564 can affect MQU90q_-fgM-00977-00207565-00207708 impression risk include oxygen MQU90q_-fgM-00978-00207709-00207946 concentration carbon dioxide levels body MQU90q_-fgM-00979-00207946-00208150 position vasodilators and constrictors MQU90q_-fgM-00980-00208151-00208308 positive or negative pressure breathing MQU90q_-fgM-00981-00208309-00208536 and dehydration blood volume individual MQU90q_-fgM-00982-00208537-00208710 susceptibility to decompression sickness MQU90q_-fgM-00983-00208711-00208878 has components which can be attributed MQU90q_-fgM-00984-00208879-00209094 to a specific cause and components which MQU90q_-fgM-00985-00209096-00209319 appear to be random the random component MQU90q_-fgM-00986-00209321-00209521 makes successive decompressions a poor MQU90q_-fgM-00987-00209521-00209754 test of susceptibility obesity and high MQU90q_-fgM-00988-00209755-00209928 serum lipid levels have been implicated MQU90q_-fgM-00989-00209929-00210151 by some studies as risk factors and risk MQU90q_-fgM-00990-00210152-00210417 seems to increase with age another study MQU90q_-fgM-00991-00210419-00210589 has also shown that older subjects MQU90q_-fgM-00992-00210590-00210717 tended to bubble more than younger MQU90q_-fgM-00993-00210719-00210913 subjects for reasons not yet known but MQU90q_-fgM-00994-00210914-00211090 no trends between wait body fat or MQU90q_-fgM-00995-00211091-00211273 gender and bubbles were identified and MQU90q_-fgM-00996-00211273-00211431 the question of why some people are more MQU90q_-fgM-00997-00211432-00211581 likely to form bubbles than others MQU90q_-fgM-00998-00211582-00212373 remains unclear topic saturation MQU90q_-fgM-00999-00212375-00212952 decompression saturation decompression MQU90q_-fgM-01000-00212953-00213151 is a physiological process of transition MQU90q_-fgM-01001-00213152-00213285 from a steady state of full saturation MQU90q_-fgM-01002-00213286-00213492 with inert gas that raised pressure to MQU90q_-fgM-01003-00213494-00213652 standard conditions at normal surface MQU90q_-fgM-01004-00213653-00213889 atmospheric pressure it is a long MQU90q_-fgM-01005-00213890-00214063 process during which inert gases are MQU90q_-fgM-01006-00214064-00214251 eliminated at a very low rate limited by MQU90q_-fgM-01007-00214252-00214419 the slowest affected tissues and the MQU90q_-fgM-01008-00214421-00214615 deviation can cause the formation of gas MQU90q_-fgM-01009-00214616-00214789 bubbles which can produce decompression MQU90q_-fgM-01010-00214790-00215050 sickness most operational procedures MQU90q_-fgM-01011-00215051-00215188 rely on experimentally derived MQU90q_-fgM-01012-00215189-00215409 parameters describing a continuous slow MQU90q_-fgM-01013-00215410-00215580 decompression rate which may depend on MQU90q_-fgM-01014-00215581-00215767 depth and gas mixture in saturation MQU90q_-fgM-01015-00215767-00215928 diving all tissues are considered MQU90q_-fgM-01016-00215929-00216094 saturated and decompression which is MQU90q_-fgM-01017-00216094-00216231 safe for the slowest tissues will MQU90q_-fgM-01018-00216232-00216408 theoretically be safe for all faster MQU90q_-fgM-01019-00216409-00216642 tissues in a parallel model direct MQU90q_-fgM-01020-00216644-00216787 descent from air saturation at MQU90q_-fgM-01021-00216788-00217056 approximately 7 MSW produces venous gas MQU90q_-fgM-01022-00217057-00217363 bubbles but not symptomatic DCs deeper MQU90q_-fgM-01023-00217364-00217516 saturation' exposures require MQU90q_-fgM-01024-00217517-00217707 decompression to saturation schedules MQU90q_-fgM-01025-00217708-00217884 the safe rate of decompression from a MQU90q_-fgM-01026-00217885-00218052 saturation dive is controlled by the MQU90q_-fgM-01027-00218053-00218205 partial pressure of oxygen in the MQU90q_-fgM-01028-00218206-00218448 inspired breathing gas the inherent MQU90q_-fgM-01029-00218450-00218646 unsaturation due to the oxygen window MQU90q_-fgM-01030-00218648-00218835 allows a relatively fast initial phase MQU90q_-fgM-01031-00218836-00218994 of saturation decompression in MQU90q_-fgM-01032-00218996-00219132 proportion to the oxygen partial MQU90q_-fgM-01033-00219133-00219303 pressure and then controls the rate of MQU90q_-fgM-01034-00219304-00219451 further decompression limited by the MQU90q_-fgM-01035-00219452-00219648 half time of inert gas elimination from MQU90q_-fgM-01036-00219650-00219901 the slowest compartment however some MQU90q_-fgM-01037-00219902-00220075 saturation decompression schedules MQU90q_-fgM-01038-00220076-00220206 specifically do not allow an MQU90q_-fgM-01039-00220207-00220344 decompression to start with an upward MQU90q_-fgM-01040-00220346-00220615 excursion neither the excursions nor the MQU90q_-fgM-01041-00220616-00220779 decompression procedures currently in MQU90q_-fgM-01042-00220780-00220959 use 2016 have been MQU90q_-fgM-01043-00220960-00221124 - cause decompression problems in MQU90q_-fgM-01044-00221125-00221266 isolation but there appears to be MQU90q_-fgM-01045-00221267-00221409 significantly higher risk when MQU90q_-fgM-01046-00221410-00221592 excursions are followed by decompression MQU90q_-fgM-01047-00221594-00221784 before non symptomatic bubbles resulting MQU90q_-fgM-01048-00221785-00221978 from excursions have totally resolved MQU90q_-fgM-01049-00221979-00222217 starting decompression while bubbles are MQU90q_-fgM-01050-00222217-00222375 present appears to be the significant MQU90q_-fgM-01051-00222376-00222538 factor in many cases of otherwise MQU90q_-fgM-01052-00222539-00222732 unexpected decompression sickness during MQU90q_-fgM-01053-00222733-00222906 routine saturation decompression MQU90q_-fgM-01054-00222907-00223152 application of a bubble model in 1985 MQU90q_-fgM-01055-00223153-00223302 allowed successful modeling of MQU90q_-fgM-01056-00223303-00223489 conventional decompressions altitude MQU90q_-fgM-01057-00223490-00223677 decompression no stop thresholds and MQU90q_-fgM-01058-00223678-00223881 saturation dives using one setting of MQU90q_-fgM-01059-00223882-00224105 for global nucleation parameters MQU90q_-fgM-01060-00224106-00224344 research continues on saturation MQU90q_-fgM-01061-00224344-00224499 decompression modeling and scheduled MQU90q_-fgM-01062-00224500-00224794 testing in 2015 a concept named extended MQU90q_-fgM-01063-00224794-00224958 oxygen window was used in preliminary MQU90q_-fgM-01064-00224959-00225153 tests for a modified saturation MQU90q_-fgM-01065-00225154-00225378 decompression model this model allows a MQU90q_-fgM-01066-00225379-00225544 faster rate of decompression at the MQU90q_-fgM-01067-00225544-00225694 start of the ascent to utilize the MQU90q_-fgM-01068-00225694-00225873 inherent unsaturation due to metabolic MQU90q_-fgM-01069-00225874-00226087 use of oxygen followed by a constant MQU90q_-fgM-01070-00226088-00226269 rate limited by oxygen partial pressure MQU90q_-fgM-01071-00226271-00226503 of the breathing gas the period of MQU90q_-fgM-01072-00226504-00226663 constant decompression rate is also MQU90q_-fgM-01073-00226664-00226872 limited by the allowable maximum oxygen MQU90q_-fgM-01074-00226873-00227049 fraction and when this limit is reached MQU90q_-fgM-01075-00227050-00227226 decompression rate slows down again as MQU90q_-fgM-01076-00227227-00227373 the partial pressure of oxygen is MQU90q_-fgM-01077-00227374-00227577 reduced the procedure remains MQU90q_-fgM-01078-00227578-00227874 experimental as of May 2016 the goal is MQU90q_-fgM-01079-00227875-00228054 an acceptable safe reduction of overall MQU90q_-fgM-01080-00228055-00228210 decompression time for a given MQU90q_-fgM-01081-00228211-00228579 saturation depth and gas mixture MS6CBbX-GOQ-00000-00000032-00000231 please all players put your phones away MS6CBbX-GOQ-00001-00000231-00000327 um MS6CBbX-GOQ-00002-00000328-00000471 the game's about slots please sell MS6CBbX-GOQ-00003-00000472-00000719 players put your phones away MS6CBbX-GOQ-00004-00000720-00000919 okay chad i mean MS6CBbX-GOQ-00005-00000919-00001047 thrash MS6CBbX-GOQ-00006-00001048-00001247 oh man MS6CBbX-GOQ-00007-00001248-00002871 teresh is the first band guys MS6CBbX-GOQ-00008-00002872-00003311 i have w and 10 okay he has no w i've w8 MS6CBbX-GOQ-00009-00003311-00003454 is here though right he just wants to MS6CBbX-GOQ-00010-00003455-00003590 get purely MS6CBbX-GOQ-00011-00003590-00004111 [Music] MS6CBbX-GOQ-00012-00004112-00005183 very nice MS6CBbX-GOQ-00013-00005184-00005454 okay that's fine that's fine i will eat MS6CBbX-GOQ-00014-00005455-00005777 i i will stun him wait let me MS6CBbX-GOQ-00015-00005778-00006395 [Music] MS6CBbX-GOQ-00016-00006396-00007070 [Music] MS6CBbX-GOQ-00017-00007070-00008617 [Music] MS6CBbX-GOQ-00018-00008618-00009895 [Music] MS6CBbX-GOQ-00019-00009896-00010151 guys the game is like really unusable MS6CBbX-GOQ-00020-00010152-00010838 just done it really unloseable MS6CBbX-GOQ-00021-00010839-00011103 let's try to defend the nexus okay that MS6CBbX-GOQ-00022-00011104-00012023 might be it actually MS6CBbX-GOQ-00023-00012024-00012142 i don't know MS6CBbX-GOQ-00024-00012143-00012319 and i think we have to fight okay so MS6CBbX-GOQ-00025-00012320-00012559 yeah i catch all the leonardo's leona MS6CBbX-GOQ-00026-00012560-00014063 flash MS6CBbX-GOQ-00027-00014063-00015116 a MS6CBbX-GOQ-00028-00015116-00015430 [Music] MS6CBbX-GOQ-00029-00015431-00015702 is MS6CBbX-GOQ-00030-00015703-00017804 [Music] MS6CBbX-GOQ-00031-00017805-00018158 [Music] MS6CBbX-GOQ-00032-00018159-00018279 yeah i mean MS6CBbX-GOQ-00033-00018280-00018463 at some point during the game i'm not MS6CBbX-GOQ-00034-00018464-00018583 gonna say who MS6CBbX-GOQ-00035-00018584-00018814 but a wise man said really unlosable MS6CBbX-GOQ-00036-00018815-00019055 before elder drake and then we just MS6CBbX-GOQ-00037-00019056-00019279 lost elder lost nash and almost all the MS6CBbX-GOQ-00038-00019280-00019494 game but we still managed to win so oh MS6CBbX-GOQ-00039-00019495-00019822 actually oh i just i just heard cameras MS6CBbX-GOQ-00040-00019823-00020119 had to leave the room ah MS6CBbX-GOQ-00041-00020120-00020311 sorry that's actually sad yeah MS6CBbX-GOQ-00042-00020312-00020719 unfortunately he's lying MS6CBbX-GOQ-00043-00020720-00021007 he's lying you're still here do we we MS6CBbX-GOQ-00044-00021008-00021255 don't have hand warmers right or do we MS6CBbX-GOQ-00045-00021256-00021391 nope MS6CBbX-GOQ-00046-00021392-00021607 i don't think so oh yeah MS6CBbX-GOQ-00047-00021608-00021743 because you're stressed out because you MS6CBbX-GOQ-00048-00021744-00021943 play against wound there oh a little MS6CBbX-GOQ-00049-00021944-00022207 because the [__] window was open MS6CBbX-GOQ-00050-00022208-00022414 what is he gonna eat MS6CBbX-GOQ-00051-00022415-00022601 my dick MS6CBbX-GOQ-00052-00022602-00022999 [Music] MS6CBbX-GOQ-00053-00023000-00023183 yeah he's like MS6CBbX-GOQ-00054-00023184-00023519 a cute way to say dick i guess MS6CBbX-GOQ-00055-00023520-00023832 cool MS6CBbX-GOQ-00056-00023833-00024807 [Music] MS6CBbX-GOQ-00057-00024808-00024942 [Music] MS6CBbX-GOQ-00058-00024943-00025335 this could be good MS6CBbX-GOQ-00059-00025336-00026679 [Music] MS6CBbX-GOQ-00060-00026680-00026857 i'm MS6CBbX-GOQ-00061-00026858-00027727 [Music] MS6CBbX-GOQ-00062-00027727-00027846 if we get one more i think we should MS6CBbX-GOQ-00063-00027847-00028062 start okay MS6CBbX-GOQ-00064-00028063-00028812 okay MS6CBbX-GOQ-00065-00028813-00029479 [Music] MS6CBbX-GOQ-00066-00029480-00029831 i think we should look right now okay MS6CBbX-GOQ-00067-00029832-00029951 i'm looking i'm looking this good this MS6CBbX-GOQ-00068-00029952-00030079 is good MS6CBbX-GOQ-00069-00030080-00030207 why they don't change don't try still MS6CBbX-GOQ-00070-00030208-00030502 right crackers MS6CBbX-GOQ-00071-00030503-00030662 we can only lose if we get like insane MS6CBbX-GOQ-00072-00030663-00030823 flanked by iran you want me to stay in MS6CBbX-GOQ-00073-00030824-00031046 front of you or do you want me to stay i MS6CBbX-GOQ-00074-00031047-00031158 need you MS6CBbX-GOQ-00075-00031160-00031335 because i think it's MS6CBbX-GOQ-00076-00031336-00031599 i mean i'll try to mark my calendar MS6CBbX-GOQ-00077-00031600-00031790 do you guys know flash i'm not sure MS6CBbX-GOQ-00078-00031791-00031902 probably i mean i think you're going to MS6CBbX-GOQ-00079-00031903-00032014 slash MS6CBbX-GOQ-00080-00032016-00032152 everyone else MS6CBbX-GOQ-00081-00032154-00032689 [Music] MS6CBbX-GOQ-00082-00032689-00033704 [Music] MS6CBbX-GOQ-00083-00033705-00034855 [Music] MS6CBbX-GOQ-00084-00034856-00035163 can maybe reach okay maybe enough yeah MS6CBbX-GOQ-00085-00035164-00036366 [Music] MS6CBbX-GOQ-00086-00036367-00038774 [Music] MS6CBbX-GOQ-00087-00038775-00038974 good job good job good job good job MS6CBbX-GOQ-00088-00038975-00039892 nice one well thank you guys MS6CBbX-GOQ-00089-00039893-00040183 [Music] MS6CBbX-GOQ-00090-00040184-00040363 let's go MS6CBbX-GOQ-00091-00040364-00042657 [Music] MSz7uR7JtBk-00000-00000060-00000191 [Music] MSz7uR7JtBk-00001-00000192-00000719 yellow darkness my old friend MSz7uR7JtBk-00002-00000720-00001035 i've come to talk with you again MSz7uR7JtBk-00003-00001036-00001303 [Music] MSz7uR7JtBk-00004-00001304-00001721 because the visions of MSz7uR7JtBk-00005-00001722-00001771 [Applause] MSz7uR7JtBk-00006-00001772-00002039 [Music] MSz7uR7JtBk-00007-00002039-00002439 while i was sleeping MSz7uR7JtBk-00008-00002440-00002702 and a vision MSz7uR7JtBk-00009-00002703-00003131 that was planned MSz7uR7JtBk-00010-00003132-00003203 [Music] MSz7uR7JtBk-00011-00003204-00003450 [Applause] MSz7uR7JtBk-00012-00003451-00004279 [Music] MSz7uR7JtBk-00013-00004280-00004606 dreams i walk alone MSz7uR7JtBk-00014-00004607-00004791 [Music] MSz7uR7JtBk-00015-00004792-00005111 nail straight with cobblestone MSz7uR7JtBk-00016-00005112-00005127 [Music] MSz7uR7JtBk-00017-00005128-00005359 [Applause] MSz7uR7JtBk-00018-00005360-00005591 made a hell of a MSz7uR7JtBk-00019-00005592-00006349 straight line MSz7uR7JtBk-00020-00006350-00007175 [Applause] MSz7uR7JtBk-00021-00007176-00007606 let's play tonight MSz7uR7JtBk-00022-00007608-00007956 and touch the sound of silence MSz7uR7JtBk-00023-00007956-00008223 [Music] MSz7uR7JtBk-00024-00008224-00008391 and then make it MSz7uR7JtBk-00025-00008392-00008710 let us know MSz7uR7JtBk-00026-00008711-00009014 ten thousand people maybe more MSz7uR7JtBk-00027-00009015-00009327 [Music] MSz7uR7JtBk-00028-00009328-00009839 people talking without speeding MSz7uR7JtBk-00029-00009840-00010588 people MSz7uR7JtBk-00030-00010589-00011174 [Music] MSz7uR7JtBk-00031-00011175-00011911 no one there MSz7uR7JtBk-00032-00011912-00012153 [Music] MSz7uR7JtBk-00033-00012154-00012646 [Applause] MSz7uR7JtBk-00034-00012647-00012932 silence like a cancer grows MSz7uR7JtBk-00035-00012933-00012949 [Applause] MSz7uR7JtBk-00036-00012950-00013230 [Music] MSz7uR7JtBk-00037-00013231-00013743 in my words that might teach you MSz7uR7JtBk-00038-00013744-00014030 take my arms that might MSz7uR7JtBk-00039-00014031-00015358 reach you MSz7uR7JtBk-00040-00015359-00015483 in the MSz7uR7JtBk-00041-00015484-00016022 world a silence MSz7uR7JtBk-00042-00016023-00016511 and people bald and pray MSz7uR7JtBk-00043-00016512-00016892 to the neon god they make MSz7uR7JtBk-00044-00016893-00017556 [Music] MSz7uR7JtBk-00045-00017557-00018816 [Music] MSz7uR7JtBk-00046-00018817-00018823 [Applause] MSz7uR7JtBk-00047-00018824-00019591 [Music] MSz7uR7JtBk-00048-00019592-00019991 of silence MSz7uR7JtBk-00049-00019992-00020279 hello darkness my old friend MSz7uR7JtBk-00050-00020280-00020494 [Music] MSz7uR7JtBk-00051-00020495-00020918 i've come to talk with you again MSz7uR7JtBk-00052-00020919-00022007 [Music] MSz7uR7JtBk-00053-00022008-00022215 you MSUcRZp9RHE-00000-00000110-00000463 I'm so tap tap and I don't know why but MSUcRZp9RHE-00001-00000465-00000877 let's play bomber bother so this this MSUcRZp9RHE-00002-00000878-00001244 was made kind of to honor each brahmer MSUcRZp9RHE-00003-00001245-00001745 guys oh no controller support H bar for MSUcRZp9RHE-00004-00001746-00001860 guys MSUcRZp9RHE-00005-00001861-00002456 dk64 24 hour stream let's turn up the MSUcRZp9RHE-00006-00002457-00002648 credits this is free on its on steam MSUcRZp9RHE-00007-00002649-00002870 Anand heo now so it was a bright to see MSUcRZp9RHE-00008-00002871-00003470 it on Steam made by man rig box full of MSUcRZp9RHE-00009-00003471-00004136 bats as a good name so it's got Shawn in MSUcRZp9RHE-00010-00004137-00004513 it it's got lots of youtubers probably MSUcRZp9RHE-00011-00004514-00004859 lots of people recognize like this skunk MSUcRZp9RHE-00012-00004860-00005375 badger whatever you are set up for his MSUcRZp9RHE-00013-00005376-00005591 bestie beaver goodness to steal our MSUcRZp9RHE-00014-00005592-00006641 funds so dk64 is kind of a mess there MSUcRZp9RHE-00015-00006642-00007687 there we are MSUcRZp9RHE-00016-00007688-00007996 he had a bit of a rough time with this MSUcRZp9RHE-00017-00007997-00008173 mini game in particular doing the MSUcRZp9RHE-00018-00008175-00009269 charity stream and I didn't have a great MSUcRZp9RHE-00019-00009270-00009610 time with dk64 as a kid and this is kind MSUcRZp9RHE-00020-00009611-00009839 of the worst part of it all put into one MSUcRZp9RHE-00021-00009840-00010064 game so that's that's great we got to MSUcRZp9RHE-00022-00010065-00010585 bother 10 beavers beat but be bothered MSUcRZp9RHE-00023-00010586-00010934 okay sorry don't get mad he was stuck on MSUcRZp9RHE-00024-00010935-00011149 this for like an hour or more I don't MSUcRZp9RHE-00025-00011150-00011423 even remember how long I didn't get it MSUcRZp9RHE-00026-00011424-00011591 catch too much of it live but it was a MSUcRZp9RHE-00027-00011592-00012004 pretty crazy stream MSUcRZp9RHE-00028-00012005-00012806 get in the hole I can Rd I can already MSUcRZp9RHE-00029-00012807-00013106 feel those dk64 memories coming back why MSUcRZp9RHE-00030-00013107-00013216 would you do this MSUcRZp9RHE-00031-00013218-00013478 even even for charity it's not worth it MSUcRZp9RHE-00032-00013479-00013805 I know people that think dk64 is great MSUcRZp9RHE-00033-00013806-00013872 night MSUcRZp9RHE-00034-00013874-00014078 you're already allowed to have your MSUcRZp9RHE-00035-00014079-00014696 opinion but like well done well done I MSUcRZp9RHE-00036-00014697-00015071 think you mean to say it's a thanks for MSUcRZp9RHE-00037-00015072-00015365 like 500 achievements continue MSUcRZp9RHE-00038-00015366-00015541 what do you mean continue I won that was MSUcRZp9RHE-00039-00015543-00015761 that was it right we have to get back MSUcRZp9RHE-00040-00015762-00016262 every penny they stole from us there's MSUcRZp9RHE-00041-00016263-00016894 more I don't know how long this is but MSUcRZp9RHE-00042-00016895-00017453 oh no all right we got to rob the MSUcRZp9RHE-00043-00017454-00017633 beavers back - got to get the money back MSUcRZp9RHE-00044-00017634-00017797 you get no get in the hole well you can MSUcRZp9RHE-00045-00017798-00018059 jump I don't know what purpose is to MSUcRZp9RHE-00046-00018060-00018340 jump in this be if you never play dk64 MSUcRZp9RHE-00047-00018341-00018560 it's the game that made me realize the MSUcRZp9RHE-00048-00018561-00018781 video game is hard oh he's good MSUcRZp9RHE-00049-00018782-00019247 it's chock full of really hard to play MSUcRZp9RHE-00050-00019248-00019444 minigames that have like unique controls MSUcRZp9RHE-00051-00019445-00019757 just for them and it's like you have to MSUcRZp9RHE-00052-00019758-00019937 do all of them eventually in like the MSUcRZp9RHE-00053-00019938-00020063 worst thing really is that you have to MSUcRZp9RHE-00054-00020064-00020180 switch characters you have to play every MSUcRZp9RHE-00055-00020181-00020552 level like more than six times because MSUcRZp9RHE-00056-00020553-00020672 you have to play through it with every MSUcRZp9RHE-00057-00020673-00020834 character to get all the things but you MSUcRZp9RHE-00058-00020835-00020990 can't get all the things on your first MSUcRZp9RHE-00059-00020991-00021167 playthrough more or less so you're gonna MSUcRZp9RHE-00060-00021168-00021335 have to play multiple times as some of MSUcRZp9RHE-00061-00021336-00021514 the characters in each level and it's MSUcRZp9RHE-00062-00021515-00021997 it's really bad shit MSUcRZp9RHE-00063-00021998-00022197 and this this really does accurately MSUcRZp9RHE-00064-00022198-00022625 represent the she her frustration MSUcRZp9RHE-00065-00022626-00022930 thought they added there's new mechanics MSUcRZp9RHE-00066-00022931-00023032 I don't know why you would put more MSUcRZp9RHE-00067-00023033-00023208 mechanics and then already bad minigame MSUcRZp9RHE-00068-00023209-00023860 Oh Oh God there was a time line that was MSUcRZp9RHE-00069-00023861-00024175 2 percent difficulty classic fare MSUcRZp9RHE-00070-00024176-00024340 oh my god there's a fare difficulty oh MSUcRZp9RHE-00071-00024341-00024630 my god Donkey Kong 64 never had a fare MSUcRZp9RHE-00072-00024631-00025213 difficulty I did enjoy the game to some MSUcRZp9RHE-00073-00025214-00025606 small extent but I never did beat it MSUcRZp9RHE-00074-00025607-00025981 I got chunky Kong and I think I about MSUcRZp9RHE-00075-00025982-00026175 went there you had to get like 18 MSUcRZp9RHE-00076-00026176-00026356 billion bananas to be allowed to fight MSUcRZp9RHE-00077-00026357-00026632 the boss and like I was a little stupid MSUcRZp9RHE-00078-00026633-00026857 kid that was like fighting a boss was MSUcRZp9RHE-00079-00026858-00027102 hard enough as it was to like make me MSUcRZp9RHE-00080-00027104-00027343 suffer just to be able to like fight a MSUcRZp9RHE-00081-00027344-00027720 boss a few times was like oh my god boss MSUcRZp9RHE-00082-00027722-00027852 I really loved the Donkey Kong Country MSUcRZp9RHE-00083-00027854-00028123 series on SNES I was like wow I'm gonna MSUcRZp9RHE-00084-00028124-00028324 play more Donkey Kong it's gonna be just MSUcRZp9RHE-00085-00028325-00028440 like the other ones it's gonna be great MSUcRZp9RHE-00086-00028441-00029114 as I oh oh MSUcRZp9RHE-00087-00029116-00029895 much more reasonable difficulty but yeah MSUcRZp9RHE-00088-00029895-00030225 the impetus for the charity stream was a MSUcRZp9RHE-00089-00030226-00030643 particulars stupid comedian in like 50 MSUcRZp9RHE-00090-00030644-00030982 air clubs that said some really stupid MSUcRZp9RHE-00091-00030983-00031290 stuff but hey mad respects to people who MSUcRZp9RHE-00092-00031291-00031537 take stupid bad things and turn them MSUcRZp9RHE-00093-00031538-00032046 into good things oh I love this menu by MSUcRZp9RHE-00094-00032047-00032239 the way it's such an n64 money you don't MSUcRZp9RHE-00095-00032239-00032455 get menus like this anymore you don't MSUcRZp9RHE-00096-00032456-00032668 get these dumb oh no no put the game MSUcRZp9RHE-00097-00032669-00032974 like physical space menus they were like MSUcRZp9RHE-00098-00032975-00033349 oh it's 3d man bommie ba ba me bon 64 I MSUcRZp9RHE-00099-00033350-00033637 love that game what are my videos no MSUcRZp9RHE-00100-00033638-00034177 what no control MSUcRZp9RHE-00101-00034178-00034570 I don't know I expect I put it in awe I MSUcRZp9RHE-00102-00034571-00034807 can't put in mono it's not an n64 game MSUcRZp9RHE-00103-00034808-00035038 if you can't put it in mono what's up MSUcRZp9RHE-00104-00035039-00035389 Shawn how you he doing he's just their MSUcRZp9RHE-00105-00035390-00036400 boss score we need to make 300 okay MSUcRZp9RHE-00106-00036401-00036652 that's the amount of money the charity MSUcRZp9RHE-00107-00036653-00036964 got so I I'm not I'm not gonna play that MSUcRZp9RHE-00108-00036965-00037296 long you kind of get we kind of get the MSUcRZp9RHE-00109-00037297-00037693 this a steal one all right we'll take a MSUcRZp9RHE-00110-00037694-00038083 look at the third level great job it'll MSUcRZp9RHE-00111-00038084-00038479 be a lot of time accident actually but MSUcRZp9RHE-00112-00038480-00039073 we're just do one more I wonder how long MSUcRZp9RHE-00113-00039074-00039220 it takes to actually complete this MSUcRZp9RHE-00114-00039221-00039408 especially unlike regular difficulty MSUcRZp9RHE-00115-00039409-00039751 regular completely unfair on the money MSUcRZp9RHE-00116-00039752-00040201 back see and this one they kind of MSUcRZp9RHE-00117-00040202-00040486 actually get stay scared I think they MSUcRZp9RHE-00118-00040487-00040888 get a lot more money I do I don't MSUcRZp9RHE-00119-00040889-00041104 remember if I beat it or not I remember MSUcRZp9RHE-00120-00041105-00041271 this from that 64 days I'm sure I hated MSUcRZp9RHE-00121-00041272-00041461 it but I didn't like a lot of the MSUcRZp9RHE-00122-00041462-00041587 minigames in that game actually MSUcRZp9RHE-00123-00041588-00041820 [Music] MSUcRZp9RHE-00124-00041821-00042531 welcome to bonus stage that that MSUcRZp9RHE-00125-00042532-00042699 particular sound effect is still MSUcRZp9RHE-00126-00042700-00043177 ingrained in my head that Oh banana MSUcRZp9RHE-00127-00043178-00043431 which i think is actually the composer MSUcRZp9RHE-00128-00043432-00043761 saying that and I just pitch down to BDK MSUcRZp9RHE-00129-00043762-00044556 voice imagine uuuu paid to make like the MSUcRZp9RHE-00130-00044557-00044730 DK rap and then after all of that MSUcRZp9RHE-00131-00044731-00044964 embarrassment to like hey we got one MSUcRZp9RHE-00132-00044965-00045126 more thing for you to do and you just MSUcRZp9RHE-00133-00045127-00045327 dumb stand really close to this MSUcRZp9RHE-00134-00045328-00046008 microphone ago oh but uh poor guy crazy MSUcRZp9RHE-00135-00046009-00046346 psychic okay you get lots of chivos MSUcRZp9RHE-00136-00046347-00046743 getting lots of dip okay one one look MSUcRZp9RHE-00137-00046744-00047508 one quick look at the progress a lot of MSUcRZp9RHE-00138-00047509-00047676 people gotta be assholes on Twitter why MSUcRZp9RHE-00139-00047677-00047940 do people gotta like aggressive the MSUcRZp9RHE-00140-00047941-00048087 attempt to ruin other people's lives MSUcRZp9RHE-00141-00048088-00048362 that they never met through reasons to MSUcRZp9RHE-00142-00048363-00048711 just people with nominee MSUcRZp9RHE-00143-00048712-00048939 but hey some people are good and they MSUcRZp9RHE-00144-00048940-00049262 make games that make us suffer for you MSUcRZp9RHE-00145-00049263-00049482 they make me feel bad for good reasons MSUcRZp9RHE-00146-00049483-00049968 I guess how's this for emotional game MSUcRZp9RHE-00147-00049969-00050118 design that make you play beaver bother MSUcRZp9RHE-00148-00050119-00050312 that's then they're already making a MSUcRZp9RHE-00149-00050313-00050615 suffer the fair difficulty this is like MSUcRZp9RHE-00150-00050616-00050817 if dk64 was like this I would probably MSUcRZp9RHE-00151-00050818-00051083 like actually finish it maybe something MSUcRZp9RHE-00152-00051084-00051339 that's but I wonder if there's some like MSUcRZp9RHE-00153-00051340-00051491 romhack so just make it so you can get MSUcRZp9RHE-00154-00051492-00051657 all of the stuff is any character or MSUcRZp9RHE-00155-00051658-00051870 something like only certain stuff is MSUcRZp9RHE-00156-00051871-00052164 like not is like stupid and you have to MSUcRZp9RHE-00157-00052165-00052614 get it from everybody infuriating way to MSUcRZp9RHE-00158-00052615-00052653 do it MSUcRZp9RHE-00159-00052654-00052866 plus I played I think I played spyro MSUcRZp9RHE-00160-00052866-00053304 before I played dk64 and Spyro is like MSUcRZp9RHE-00161-00053304-00053529 18 billion times better of an open-world MSUcRZp9RHE-00162-00053529-00053940 collectathon kind of thing than dk64 not MSUcRZp9RHE-00163-00053941-00054141 even sure you could call dk64 open-world MSUcRZp9RHE-00164-00054141-00054309 because like there's very specific MSUcRZp9RHE-00165-00054310-00054707 things you have to do I'm already at 30% MSUcRZp9RHE-00166-00054708-00054894 this is not crazy bad but I mean we've MSUcRZp9RHE-00167-00054895-00055214 we get that we get the deal here MSUcRZp9RHE-00168-00055215-00055419 shoutouts that fair difficulty about MSUcRZp9RHE-00169-00055420-00055644 that is that is so much fun who's this MSUcRZp9RHE-00170-00055645-00056305 man hello Parker yes is that so MSUcRZp9RHE-00171-00056307-00056516 Parker's here to stop me from playing MSUcRZp9RHE-00172-00056517-00056862 more beaver bothered can I just die good MSUcRZp9RHE-00173-00056863-00057279 good good that's how we end beaver MSUcRZp9RHE-00174-00057279-00057654 bother good night everybody MSUcRZp9RHE-00175-00057655-00057923 tap-tap here if you liked the video make MSUcRZp9RHE-00176-00057924-00058097 sure to subscribe and leave a like if MSUcRZp9RHE-00177-00058098-00058286 you want I read every comment posted so MSUcRZp9RHE-00178-00058287-00058405 it don't embarrass yourself MSUcRZp9RHE-00179-00058407-00058619 social media links in the description MSUcRZp9RHE-00180-00058620-00058792 including my patreon and any relevant MSUcRZp9RHE-00181-00058794-00059080 links to the game MTfEw2S5Ido-00000-00000000-00000267 oh really and Latin Lucius Domitius MTfEw2S5Ido-00001-00000268-00000503 Aurelius Augustus the ninth of September MTfEw2S5Ido-00002-00000504-00000998 to 14 or 215 September or October 275 MTfEw2S5Ido-00003-00000999-00001460 was Roman Emperor from 270 to 275 born MTfEw2S5Ido-00004-00001461-00001676 in humble circumstances he rose through MTfEw2S5Ido-00005-00001677-00001870 the military ranks to become emperor MTfEw2S5Ido-00006-00001871-00002096 during his reign he defeated the MTfEw2S5Ido-00007-00002097-00002392 allamani after a devastating war he also MTfEw2S5Ido-00008-00002393-00002635 defeated the Goths vandals Jew hungy MTfEw2S5Ido-00009-00002636-00002987 Sarmatian and Carpi Aurelian restored MTfEw2S5Ido-00010-00002988-00003206 the Empire's eastern provinces after his MTfEw2S5Ido-00011-00003207-00003529 conquest of the Palmyra Empire in 273 MTfEw2S5Ido-00012-00003530-00003763 the following year he conquered the MTfEw2S5Ido-00013-00003764-00003992 Gallic Empire in the West reuniting the MTfEw2S5Ido-00014-00003993-00004253 Empire in its entirety he was also MTfEw2S5Ido-00015-00004254-00004456 responsible for the construction of the MTfEw2S5Ido-00016-00004457-00004619 Aurelian walls in Rome and the MTfEw2S5Ido-00017-00004620-00004919 abandonment of the province of Dacia his MTfEw2S5Ido-00018-00004920-00005104 successes were instrumental in ending MTfEw2S5Ido-00019-00005105-00005315 the Roman Empire's crisis of the third MTfEw2S5Ido-00020-00005316-00005536 century earning him the title restitute MTfEw2S5Ido-00021-00005537-00005713 her Orbis or restorer of the world MTfEw2S5Ido-00022-00005714-00005963 although Domitian was the first emperor MTfEw2S5Ido-00023-00005964-00006158 who had demanded to be officially hailed MTfEw2S5Ido-00024-00006159-00006416 as Dominus at dais master and god these MTfEw2S5Ido-00025-00006417-00006623 titles never occurred in written form on MTfEw2S5Ido-00026-00006623-00006788 official documents until the reign of MTfEw2S5Ido-00027-00006789-00007152 Aurelian MTfEw2S5Ido-00028-00007153-00007676 topic early life MTfEw2S5Ido-00029-00007677-00007884 Aurelian was born on the 9th of MTfEw2S5Ido-00030-00007884-00008169 September most likely in 214 ad although MTfEw2S5Ido-00031-00008170-00008510 215 ad is also possible the ancient MTfEw2S5Ido-00032-00008511-00008724 sources do not agree on his place of MTfEw2S5Ido-00033-00008725-00008883 birth although he was generally accepted MTfEw2S5Ido-00034-00008884-00009092 as being a native of Illyricum but MTfEw2S5Ido-00035-00009093-00009270 another common belief was that he was MTfEw2S5Ido-00036-00009271-00009537 born in Greece sirmium and Pannonia MTfEw2S5Ido-00037-00009538-00009717 inferior now Shrestha meet Rebecca MTfEw2S5Ido-00038-00009718-00009971 Serbia is the preferred location which MTfEw2S5Ido-00039-00009972-00010176 was created by Aurelian as Emperor when MTfEw2S5Ido-00040-00010177-00010326 he abandoned the old transdanubia MTfEw2S5Ido-00041-00010327-00010626 territory of Dacia the academic MTfEw2S5Ido-00042-00010627-00010821 consensus is that he was of humble birth MTfEw2S5Ido-00043-00010822-00011004 and that his father was a peasant farmer MTfEw2S5Ido-00044-00011005-00011180 who took his Roman nomen from his MTfEw2S5Ido-00045-00011181-00011441 landlord a senator of the clan Aurelius MTfEw2S5Ido-00046-00011442-00011714 sander suggests that his family might in MTfEw2S5Ido-00047-00011715-00011924 fact have been of Roman settler origin MTfEw2S5Ido-00048-00011925-00012144 and of much higher social status however MTfEw2S5Ido-00049-00012145-00012371 his suggestion has not been taken up by MTfEw2S5Ido-00050-00012372-00012579 his more recent academic colleagues such MTfEw2S5Ido-00051-00012580-00012834 as southern and Watson using the MTfEw2S5Ido-00052-00012835-00013028 evidence of the ancient sources it was MTfEw2S5Ido-00053-00013029-00013236 at one time suggested that or aliens MTfEw2S5Ido-00054-00013237-00013416 mother was a freed woman of a member of MTfEw2S5Ido-00055-00013416-00013587 the clan Aurelius and that she herself MTfEw2S5Ido-00056-00013588-00013791 was a priestess of the Sun God in her MTfEw2S5Ido-00057-00013791-00014006 native village these two propositions MTfEw2S5Ido-00058-00014007-00014219 together with the tradition that the MTfEw2S5Ido-00059-00014220-00014400 clan Aurelius had been entrusted with MTfEw2S5Ido-00060-00014401-00014586 the maintenance of that deities cult in MTfEw2S5Ido-00061-00014587-00014790 Rome inspired the notion that this could MTfEw2S5Ido-00062-00014791-00014997 explain the devotion to the Sun God that MTfEw2S5Ido-00063-00014997-00015213 Aurelian was to manifest as Emperor see MTfEw2S5Ido-00064-00015213-00015471 below however it seems that this MTfEw2S5Ido-00065-00015472-00015702 Pleasant extrapolation of dubious facts MTfEw2S5Ido-00066-00015703-00015897 has now generally accepted as being no MTfEw2S5Ido-00067-00015897-00016335 more than just that MTfEw2S5Ido-00068-00016336-00016834 topic military career MTfEw2S5Ido-00069-00016835-00017077 it is commonly accepted that Aurelian MTfEw2S5Ido-00070-00017078-00017353 probably joined the Army in 235 ad at MTfEw2S5Ido-00071-00017354-00017620 around age 20 it is also generally MTfEw2S5Ido-00072-00017621-00017830 assumed that as a member of the lowest MTfEw2S5Ido-00073-00017831-00018142 rank of society albeit a citizen he MTfEw2S5Ido-00074-00018143-00018286 would have enlisted in the ranks of the MTfEw2S5Ido-00075-00018287-00018550 legions saunders suggests that his MTfEw2S5Ido-00076-00018551-00018754 career is more easily understood if it MTfEw2S5Ido-00077-00018755-00018946 is assumed that his family was of roman MTfEw2S5Ido-00078-00018947-00019129 settler origins with a tradition of MTfEw2S5Ido-00079-00019130-00019327 military service and that he enlisted as MTfEw2S5Ido-00080-00019328-00019564 an equestrian this would have opened up MTfEw2S5Ido-00081-00019565-00019819 for him the Tres militia the three steps MTfEw2S5Ido-00082-00019820-00020080 of the equestrian military career one of MTfEw2S5Ido-00083-00020081-00020272 the routes to higher equestrian office MTfEw2S5Ido-00084-00020273-00020527 in the Imperial service this could be a MTfEw2S5Ido-00085-00020528-00020704 more expeditious route to senior MTfEw2S5Ido-00086-00020705-00020944 military and procure toriel offices than MTfEw2S5Ido-00087-00020945-00021148 that pursued by ex rancors although not MTfEw2S5Ido-00088-00021149-00021430 necessarily less laborious however MTfEw2S5Ido-00089-00021431-00021652 Saunders is conjecture as to orally ins MTfEw2S5Ido-00090-00021653-00021847 early career as not supported by any MTfEw2S5Ido-00091-00021848-00022018 evidence other than his nomen which MTfEw2S5Ido-00092-00022019-00022237 could indicate Italian settler ancestry MTfEw2S5Ido-00093-00022238-00022438 although even this is contested and his MTfEw2S5Ido-00094-00022439-00022618 rise to the highest ranks which is more MTfEw2S5Ido-00095-00022619-00022804 easily understood if he did not have to MTfEw2S5Ido-00096-00022805-00022903 start from the bottom MTfEw2S5Ido-00097-00022904-00023152 his suggestion has not been taken up by MTfEw2S5Ido-00098-00023153-00023521 other academic authorities whatever his MTfEw2S5Ido-00099-00023522-00023725 origins Aurelian certainly must have MTfEw2S5Ido-00100-00023726-00023941 built up a very solid reputation for MTfEw2S5Ido-00101-00023942-00024088 military competence during the MTfEw2S5Ido-00102-00024089-00024376 tumultuous mid decades of the century to MTfEw2S5Ido-00103-00024377-00024586 be sure the exploits detailed in the MTfEw2S5Ido-00104-00024587-00024832 historia Augusta Vita DV oriani MTfEw2S5Ido-00105-00024833-00025018 while not always impossible are not MTfEw2S5Ido-00106-00025019-00025210 supported by any independent evidence MTfEw2S5Ido-00107-00025211-00025387 and one at least is demonstrably an MTfEw2S5Ido-00108-00025388-00025666 invention typical of that author however MTfEw2S5Ido-00109-00025667-00025864 he was probably associated with MTfEw2S5Ido-00110-00025864-00026103 Gallienus cavalry army and shown as an MTfEw2S5Ido-00111-00026104-00026269 officer of that Corps daylight because MTfEw2S5Ido-00112-00026270-00026425 when he finally emerged in a MTfEw2S5Ido-00113-00026426-00026632 historically reliable context in the MTfEw2S5Ido-00114-00026633-00026848 early part of the reign of Claudius ii MTfEw2S5Ido-00115-00026849-00027318 he seems to have been its commander MTfEw2S5Ido-00116-00027319-00027831 topic service under Gallienus MTfEw2S5Ido-00117-00027832-00028083 his successes as a cavalry commander MTfEw2S5Ido-00118-00028083-00028263 ultimately made him a member of Emperor MTfEw2S5Ido-00119-00028264-00028683 Gallienus entourage in 268 Aurelian and MTfEw2S5Ido-00120-00028683-00028893 his cavalry participated in general MTfEw2S5Ido-00121-00028894-00029091 Claudius victory over the Goths at the MTfEw2S5Ido-00122-00029092-00029333 Battle of nasus later that year MTfEw2S5Ido-00123-00029335-00029532 Gallienus travelled to Italy and thought MTfEw2S5Ido-00124-00029533-00029742 or ulis his former general and now MTfEw2S5Ido-00125-00029743-00030027 usurper for the throne driving or Aeolus MTfEw2S5Ido-00126-00030027-00030147 back into Mediolanum MTfEw2S5Ido-00127-00030148-00030324 galley and his promptly besieged his MTfEw2S5Ido-00128-00030325-00030612 adversary in the city however while the MTfEw2S5Ido-00129-00030613-00030758 siege was ongoing the Emperor was MTfEw2S5Ido-00130-00030760-00031020 assassinated one source says Aurelian MTfEw2S5Ido-00131-00031020-00031254 who is present at the siege participated MTfEw2S5Ido-00132-00031255-00031452 and supported general Claudius for the MTfEw2S5Ido-00133-00031452-00031674 purple which is plausible Aurelian was MTfEw2S5Ido-00134-00031675-00031869 married to o pious every 'no about whom MTfEw2S5Ido-00135-00031870-00032139 little is known like Aurelian she was MTfEw2S5Ido-00136-00032139-00032339 from Dacia they are known to have had a MTfEw2S5Ido-00137-00032341-00032707 daughter together MTfEw2S5Ido-00138-00032708-00033254 topic service under Claudius MTfEw2S5Ido-00139-00033255-00033482 Claudius was acclaimed emperor by the MTfEw2S5Ido-00140-00033483-00033710 soldiers outside Mediolanum the new MTfEw2S5Ido-00141-00033711-00033893 emperor immediately ordered the senate MTfEw2S5Ido-00142-00033894-00034154 to deify Gallienus next he began to MTfEw2S5Ido-00143-00034155-00034295 distance himself from those responsible MTfEw2S5Ido-00144-00034296-00034532 for his predecessors assassination MTfEw2S5Ido-00145-00034533-00034742 ordering the execution of those directly MTfEw2S5Ido-00146-00034743-00035039 involved or Aeolus was still besieged in MTfEw2S5Ido-00147-00035040-00035252 Mediolanum and sought reconciliation MTfEw2S5Ido-00148-00035253-00035456 with the new emperor but Claudius had no MTfEw2S5Ido-00149-00035457-00035702 sympathy for a potential rival the MTfEw2S5Ido-00150-00035703-00035891 Emperor had oriole is killed and one MTfEw2S5Ido-00151-00035892-00036092 source implicates Aurelian in the deed MTfEw2S5Ido-00152-00036093-00036293 perhaps even signing the warrant for his MTfEw2S5Ido-00153-00036294-00036434 death himself during the reign of MTfEw2S5Ido-00154-00036435-00036680 Claudius Aurelian was promoted rapidly MTfEw2S5Ido-00155-00036681-00036842 he was given command of the elite MTfEw2S5Ido-00156-00036843-00037034 Dalmatian cavalry and was soon promoted MTfEw2S5Ido-00157-00037035-00037283 to overall Magister equity effectively MTfEw2S5Ido-00158-00037284-00037451 the head of the army after the Emperor MTfEw2S5Ido-00159-00037452-00037643 and the Emperor Claudius own positioned MTfEw2S5Ido-00160-00037644-00037892 before his acclamation the war against MTfEw2S5Ido-00161-00037893-00038081 Tory olace and the concentration of MTfEw2S5Ido-00162-00038082-00038297 forces in Italy allowed the allamani to MTfEw2S5Ido-00163-00038298-00038450 break through the raishin limes along MTfEw2S5Ido-00164-00038451-00038696 the upper danube marching through raesha MTfEw2S5Ido-00165-00038697-00038879 and the alps unhindered they entered MTfEw2S5Ido-00166-00038880-00039062 northern Italy and began pillaging the MTfEw2S5Ido-00167-00039063-00039476 area in early 269 Emperor Claudius and MTfEw2S5Ido-00168-00039477-00039638 Aurelian marched north to meet the MTfEw2S5Ido-00169-00039639-00039851 allamani defeating them decisively at MTfEw2S5Ido-00170-00039852-00039980 the Battle of Lake Wanaka MTfEw2S5Ido-00171-00039981-00040145 while still dealing with the defeated MTfEw2S5Ido-00172-00040146-00040322 enemy news came from the Balkans MTfEw2S5Ido-00173-00040323-00040508 reporting large-scale attacks from the MTfEw2S5Ido-00174-00040509-00040760 her uli Goths get bids and Bastion I MTfEw2S5Ido-00175-00040761-00041051 Claudius immediately dispatched orillian MTfEw2S5Ido-00176-00041052-00041219 to the Balkans to contain the invasion MTfEw2S5Ido-00177-00041220-00041423 as best he could until Claudius could MTfEw2S5Ido-00178-00041424-00041675 arrive with his main army the Goths were MTfEw2S5Ido-00179-00041676-00041873 besieging Thessalonica when they heard MTfEw2S5Ido-00180-00041874-00042035 of Emperor Claudius approached MTfEw2S5Ido-00181-00042036-00042206 causing them to abandon the siege and MTfEw2S5Ido-00182-00042207-00042500 pillage northeastern Macedonia Aurelian MTfEw2S5Ido-00183-00042501-00042704 intercepted the Goths with his Dalmatian MTfEw2S5Ido-00184-00042705-00042905 cavalry and defeated them in a series of MTfEw2S5Ido-00185-00042906-00043109 minor skirmishes killing as many as MTfEw2S5Ido-00186-00043110-00043439 3,000 of the enemy Aurelian continued to MTfEw2S5Ido-00187-00043440-00043637 harass the enemy driving them northward MTfEw2S5Ido-00188-00043638-00043808 into Upper moja where Emperor Claudius MTfEw2S5Ido-00189-00043809-00044102 had assembled his main army the ensuing MTfEw2S5Ido-00190-00044103-00044303 battle was indecisive the northward MTfEw2S5Ido-00191-00044304-00044492 advance of the Goths was halted but MTfEw2S5Ido-00192-00044493-00044627 Roman losses were heavy MTfEw2S5Ido-00193-00044628-00044783 Claudius could not afford another MTfEw2S5Ido-00194-00044784-00044966 pitched battle so he instead laid a MTfEw2S5Ido-00195-00044967-00045196 successful ambush killing thousands MTfEw2S5Ido-00196-00045197-00045428 however the majority of the Goths MTfEw2S5Ido-00197-00045429-00045635 escaped and began retreating south the MTfEw2S5Ido-00198-00045636-00045872 way they had come for the rest of year MTfEw2S5Ido-00199-00045873-00046049 or really and harassed the enemy with MTfEw2S5Ido-00200-00046050-00046268 his Dalmatian cavalry now stranded in MTfEw2S5Ido-00201-00046269-00046367 Roman territory MTfEw2S5Ido-00202-00046368-00046565 the Goths lack of provisions began to MTfEw2S5Ido-00203-00046566-00046662 take its toll MTfEw2S5Ido-00204-00046663-00046951 Aurelian sensing his enemy's desperation MTfEw2S5Ido-00205-00046952-00047128 attacked them with the full force of his MTfEw2S5Ido-00206-00047129-00047317 cavalry killing many and driving the MTfEw2S5Ido-00207-00047318-00047596 remainder westward into Thrace as winter MTfEw2S5Ido-00208-00047597-00047776 set in the Goths retreated into the MTfEw2S5Ido-00209-00047777-00047962 Hemus mountains only to find themselves MTfEw2S5Ido-00210-00047963-00048214 trapped and surrounded the harsh MTfEw2S5Ido-00211-00048215-00048406 conditions now exacerbated their MTfEw2S5Ido-00212-00048407-00048640 shortage of food however the Romans MTfEw2S5Ido-00213-00048641-00048835 underestimated the Goths and let their MTfEw2S5Ido-00214-00048836-00049021 guard down allowing the enemy to break MTfEw2S5Ido-00215-00049022-00049182 through their lines and escape MTfEw2S5Ido-00216-00049183-00049414 apparently Emperor Claudius ignored MTfEw2S5Ido-00217-00049415-00049603 advice perhaps from Aurelian and MTfEw2S5Ido-00218-00049604-00049786 withheld the cavalry and sent in only MTfEw2S5Ido-00219-00049787-00050080 the infantry to stop their breakout the MTfEw2S5Ido-00220-00050081-00050257 determined Goths killed many of the MTfEw2S5Ido-00221-00050258-00050410 oncoming infantry and were only MTfEw2S5Ido-00222-00050411-00050572 prevented from slaughtering them all MTfEw2S5Ido-00223-00050573-00050770 when Aurelian finally charged in with MTfEw2S5Ido-00224-00050771-00051049 his Dalmatian cavalry the Goths still MTfEw2S5Ido-00225-00051050-00051232 managed to escape and continued their MTfEw2S5Ido-00226-00051233-00051492 march through Thrace the Roman army MTfEw2S5Ido-00227-00051494-00051679 continued to follow the Goths during the MTfEw2S5Ido-00228-00051679-00052027 spring and summer of 270 meanwhile a MTfEw2S5Ido-00229-00052028-00052198 devastating plague swept through the MTfEw2S5Ido-00230-00052199-00052404 balkans killing many soldiers in both MTfEw2S5Ido-00231-00052405-00052716 armies Emperor Claudius fell ill on the MTfEw2S5Ido-00232-00052717-00052894 march to the battle and returned to his MTfEw2S5Ido-00233-00052895-00053113 regional headquarters in sirmium leaving MTfEw2S5Ido-00234-00053114-00053326 Aurelian in charge of operations against MTfEw2S5Ido-00235-00053327-00053629 the Goths Aurelian used his cavalry to MTfEw2S5Ido-00236-00053629-00053815 great effect breaking the Goths into MTfEw2S5Ido-00237-00053816-00054010 smaller groups which were easier to deal MTfEw2S5Ido-00238-00054011-00054238 with by late summer the Goths were MTfEw2S5Ido-00239-00054239-00054445 defeated any survivors were stripped of MTfEw2S5Ido-00240-00054446-00054607 their animals in booty and were levied MTfEw2S5Ido-00241-00054608-00054816 into the army or settled as farmers in MTfEw2S5Ido-00242-00054817-00055108 frontier regions Aurelian had no time to MTfEw2S5Ido-00243-00055109-00055333 relish his victories in late August news MTfEw2S5Ido-00244-00055334-00055501 arrived from sirmium that Emperor MTfEw2S5Ido-00245-00055502-00055879 Claudius was dead MTfEw2S5Ido-00246-00055880-00056403 topic opposition to Quinn Tillis MTfEw2S5Ido-00247-00056404-00056643 when Claudius died his brother MTfEw2S5Ido-00248-00056644-00056854 quintilius seized power with support of MTfEw2S5Ido-00249-00056854-00057085 the Senate with an act typical of the MTfEw2S5Ido-00250-00057086-00057294 crisis of the third century the army MTfEw2S5Ido-00251-00057295-00057468 refused to recognize the new emperor MTfEw2S5Ido-00252-00057469-00057637 preferring to support one of its own MTfEw2S5Ido-00253-00057638-00057831 commanders Aurelian was proclaimed MTfEw2S5Ido-00254-00057832-00058116 emperor in September 270 by the legions MTfEw2S5Ido-00255-00058117-00058354 in sirmium or really in defeated MTfEw2S5Ido-00256-00058354-00058563 quintilius troops and was recognized as MTfEw2S5Ido-00257-00058564-00058737 emperor by the senate after quintilius MTfEw2S5Ido-00258-00058738-00058996 death the claim that Aurelian was chosen MTfEw2S5Ido-00259-00058997-00059203 by Claudius on his deathbed can be MTfEw2S5Ido-00260-00059204-00059412 dismissed as propaganda later probably MTfEw2S5Ido-00261-00059413-00059766 in 272 Aurelian put his own dies and MTfEw2S5Ido-00262-00059767-00059947 parried the day of Claudius death thus MTfEw2S5Ido-00263-00059948-00060124 implicitly considering quintal as a MTfEw2S5Ido-00264-00060125-00060342 usurper with his base of power secured MTfEw2S5Ido-00265-00060344-00060516 he now turned his attention to Rome's MTfEw2S5Ido-00266-00060517-00060766 greatest problems recovering the vast MTfEw2S5Ido-00267-00060766-00060973 territories lost over the previous two MTfEw2S5Ido-00268-00060974-00061541 decades and reforming the race pública MTfEw2S5Ido-00269-00061542-00061980 topic Emperor MTfEw2S5Ido-00270-00061982-00062619 topic the Roman Empire in the 270's MTfEw2S5Ido-00271-00062620-00062937 in 248 Emperor Philip the Arab had MTfEw2S5Ido-00272-00062938-00063125 celebrated the Millennium of the city of MTfEw2S5Ido-00273-00063126-00063356 Rome with great and expensive ceremonies MTfEw2S5Ido-00274-00063357-00063546 and games and the Empire had given a MTfEw2S5Ido-00275-00063547-00063735 tremendous proof of self-confidence in MTfEw2S5Ido-00276-00063736-00063915 the following years MTfEw2S5Ido-00277-00063916-00064119 however the Empire had to face a huge MTfEw2S5Ido-00278-00064120-00064319 pressure from external enemies while at MTfEw2S5Ido-00279-00064320-00064515 the same time dangerous civil wars MTfEw2S5Ido-00280-00064516-00064686 threatened the Empire from within with MTfEw2S5Ido-00281-00064687-00064850 usurpers weakening the strength of the MTfEw2S5Ido-00282-00064851-00065160 state also the economic substrate of the MTfEw2S5Ido-00283-00065161-00065387 state agriculture and commerce suffered MTfEw2S5Ido-00284-00065388-00065525 from the disruption caused by the MTfEw2S5Ido-00285-00065526-00065796 instability on top of this an epidemic MTfEw2S5Ido-00286-00065797-00066056 swept through the empire around 250 MTfEw2S5Ido-00287-00066057-00066267 greatly diminishing manpower both for MTfEw2S5Ido-00288-00066268-00066543 the army and for agriculture the end MTfEw2S5Ido-00289-00066544-00066723 result was that the Empire could not MTfEw2S5Ido-00290-00066724-00066857 endure the blow of the capture of MTfEw2S5Ido-00291-00066858-00067150 Emperor Valyrian in 260 by the sassanids MTfEw2S5Ido-00292-00067151-00067404 the eastern provinces found their MTfEw2S5Ido-00293-00067405-00067590 protectors in the rulers of the city of MTfEw2S5Ido-00294-00067591-00067836 Palmyra in Syria whose autonomy grew MTfEw2S5Ido-00295-00067837-00068000 until the formation of the Palmyra MTfEw2S5Ido-00296-00068001-00068217 Empire which was successful in defending MTfEw2S5Ido-00297-00068218-00068496 against the Sassanid threat the western MTfEw2S5Ido-00298-00068497-00068700 provinces those facing the limes of the MTfEw2S5Ido-00299-00068701-00068937 Rhine seceded to form a third autonomous MTfEw2S5Ido-00300-00068938-00069093 state within the territories of the MTfEw2S5Ido-00301-00069094-00069297 Roman Empire which is now known as the MTfEw2S5Ido-00302-00069298-00069618 Gallic Empire in Rome the emperor was MTfEw2S5Ido-00303-00069619-00069818 occupied with internal menaces to his MTfEw2S5Ido-00304-00069819-00070025 power and with the defense of Italia and MTfEw2S5Ido-00305-00070026-00070405 the Balkans MTfEw2S5Ido-00306-00070406-00070950 topic reunification of the empire MTfEw2S5Ido-00307-00070951-00071160 the first actions of the new emperor MTfEw2S5Ido-00308-00071161-00071310 were aimed at strengthening his own MTfEw2S5Ido-00309-00071311-00071679 position in his territories late in 270 MTfEw2S5Ido-00310-00071680-00071910 Aurelian campaigned in northern Italia MTfEw2S5Ido-00311-00071911-00072090 against the Vandals Jew hungee and MTfEw2S5Ido-00312-00072091-00072306 Sarmatian x' expelling them from Roman MTfEw2S5Ido-00313-00072307-00072569 territory to celebrate these victories MTfEw2S5Ido-00314-00072570-00072768 Aurelian was granted the title of MTfEw2S5Ido-00315-00072769-00073059 Germanicus maximus the authority of the MTfEw2S5Ido-00316-00073060-00073185 Emperor was challenged by several MTfEw2S5Ido-00317-00073186-00073524 usurpers septimius Urbanists Domitian MTfEw2S5Ido-00318-00073525-00073712 as' and the rebellion of Felice usamos MTfEw2S5Ido-00319-00073713-00073911 who tried to exploit the sense of MTfEw2S5Ido-00320-00073912-00074079 insecurity of the Empire and the MTfEw2S5Ido-00321-00074080-00074250 overwhelming influence of the armies in MTfEw2S5Ido-00322-00074251-00074541 Roman politics Aurelian being an MTfEw2S5Ido-00323-00074542-00074742 experienced commander was aware of the MTfEw2S5Ido-00324-00074743-00074888 importance of the army and his MTfEw2S5Ido-00325-00074889-00075072 propaganda known through his coinage MTfEw2S5Ido-00326-00075073-00075231 shows he wanted the support of the MTfEw2S5Ido-00327-00075232-00075576 legions MTfEw2S5Ido-00328-00075577-00075801 topic defending Italy against the youth MTfEw2S5Ido-00329-00075802-00076156 on gay MTfEw2S5Ido-00330-00076157-00076356 the burden of the northern barbarians MTfEw2S5Ido-00331-00076357-00076749 was not yet over however in 271 the MTfEw2S5Ido-00332-00076750-00076978 allamani moved towards Italia entering MTfEw2S5Ido-00333-00076979-00077161 the Pope plane and sacking the villages MTfEw2S5Ido-00334-00077162-00077353 they passed the Po River occupied MTfEw2S5Ido-00335-00077354-00077582 Placentia and moved towards Fano MTfEw2S5Ido-00336-00077583-00077838 Aurelian who was in Pannonia to control MTfEw2S5Ido-00337-00077839-00078024 the Vandals withdrawal quickly entered MTfEw2S5Ido-00338-00078025-00078237 Italia but his army was defeated in an MTfEw2S5Ido-00339-00078238-00078657 ambush near Placentia January 271 when MTfEw2S5Ido-00340-00078658-00078831 the news of the defeat arrived in Rome MTfEw2S5Ido-00341-00078832-00079042 it caused great fear for the arrival of MTfEw2S5Ido-00342-00079043-00079318 the barbarians but Aurelian attacked the MTfEw2S5Ido-00343-00079319-00079480 allemande ii camping near the met horse MTfEw2S5Ido-00344-00079481-00079666 river defeating them in the battle of MTfEw2S5Ido-00345-00079667-00079711 Fano MTfEw2S5Ido-00346-00079712-00079918 and forcing them to recross the Po River MTfEw2S5Ido-00347-00079919-00080149 Aurelian finally routed them at Pavia MTfEw2S5Ido-00348-00080150-00080374 for this he received the title MTfEw2S5Ido-00349-00080375-00080530 Germanicus Maximus MTfEw2S5Ido-00350-00080531-00080718 however the menace of the Germanic MTfEw2S5Ido-00351-00080719-00080955 people and a Germanic invasion was still MTfEw2S5Ido-00352-00080956-00081160 perceived by the Romans as likely so MTfEw2S5Ido-00353-00081161-00081357 Aurelian resolved to build a new system MTfEw2S5Ido-00354-00081358-00081523 of walls around Rome that became known MTfEw2S5Ido-00355-00081524-00081919 as the Aurelian walls MTfEw2S5Ido-00356-00081920-00082153 topic defeat of the Goths and MTfEw2S5Ido-00357-00082154-00082571 abandonment of Dacia MTfEw2S5Ido-00358-00082572-00082775 the emperor led his legions to the MTfEw2S5Ido-00359-00082776-00082973 balkans where he defeated and routed the MTfEw2S5Ido-00360-00082974-00083153 Goths beyond the Danube killing the MTfEw2S5Ido-00361-00083154-00083366 Gothic leader can about ace and assuming MTfEw2S5Ido-00362-00083367-00083549 the title of Gothic as Maximus MTfEw2S5Ido-00363-00083550-00083801 however he decided to abandon the MTfEw2S5Ido-00364-00083802-00084017 province of Dacia on the exposed north MTfEw2S5Ido-00365-00084018-00084227 bank of the Danube as too difficult and MTfEw2S5Ido-00366-00084228-00084524 expensive to defend he reorganized a new MTfEw2S5Ido-00367-00084525-00084734 province of Dacia south of the Danube MTfEw2S5Ido-00368-00084735-00084875 inside the former moja MTfEw2S5Ido-00369-00084876-00085112 called Dacia or Ileana with serdica as MTfEw2S5Ido-00370-00085113-00085422 the capital MTfEw2S5Ido-00371-00085423-00086022 topic conquest of the Palmyra Empire MTfEw2S5Ido-00372-00086023-00086391 in 272 Aurelian turned his attention to MTfEw2S5Ido-00373-00086392-00086559 the lost eastern provinces of the Empire MTfEw2S5Ido-00374-00086560-00086940 the so called Palmyra nem pyar ruled by MTfEw2S5Ido-00375-00086941-00087171 Queen Zenobia from the city of Palmyra MTfEw2S5Ido-00376-00087172-00087393 Zenobia had carved out her own empire MTfEw2S5Ido-00377-00087394-00087675 encompassing Syria Palestine Egypt and MTfEw2S5Ido-00378-00087676-00087954 large parts of Asia Minor the syrian MTfEw2S5Ido-00379-00087955-00088044 queen cut off MTfEw2S5Ido-00380-00088045-00088206 Rome's shipments of grain and in a MTfEw2S5Ido-00381-00088207-00088383 matter of weeks the Romans started MTfEw2S5Ido-00382-00088384-00088617 running low on bread in the beginning MTfEw2S5Ido-00383-00088618-00088845 Aurelian had been recognized as Emperor MTfEw2S5Ido-00384-00088846-00089100 while the ballot asunción obeah held the MTfEw2S5Ido-00385-00089101-00089387 title of rex an Imperator king and MTfEw2S5Ido-00386-00089388-00089739 supreme military commander but Aurelian MTfEw2S5Ido-00387-00089740-00089946 decided to invade the eastern provinces MTfEw2S5Ido-00388-00089947-00090141 as soon as he felt his army to be strong MTfEw2S5Ido-00389-00090142-00090465 enough a shoe minor was recovered easily MTfEw2S5Ido-00390-00090466-00090666 every city but Byzantium and tyanna MTfEw2S5Ido-00391-00090667-00090807 surrendered to him with little MTfEw2S5Ido-00392-00090808-00091116 resistance the fall of Tyana lend itself MTfEw2S5Ido-00393-00091117-00091329 to a legend Aurelian to that point had MTfEw2S5Ido-00394-00091330-00091518 destroyed every city that resisted him MTfEw2S5Ido-00395-00091519-00091707 but he spared ty andhe after having a MTfEw2S5Ido-00396-00091708-00091869 vision of the great first century MTfEw2S5Ido-00397-00091870-00092121 philosopher Apollonius of Tyana whom he MTfEw2S5Ido-00398-00092122-00092454 respected greatly in a dream Apollonius MTfEw2S5Ido-00399-00092455-00092706 implored him stating Aurelian if you MTfEw2S5Ido-00400-00092707-00092949 desire to rule abstain from the blood of MTfEw2S5Ido-00401-00092950-00093213 the innocent Aurelian if you will MTfEw2S5Ido-00402-00093214-00093519 conquer be merciful whatever the reason MTfEw2S5Ido-00403-00093520-00093750 or really in spared tyanna it paid off MTfEw2S5Ido-00404-00093751-00093972 many more cities submitted to him upon MTfEw2S5Ido-00405-00093973-00094143 seeing that the emperor would not exact MTfEw2S5Ido-00406-00094144-00094425 revenge upon them within six months his MTfEw2S5Ido-00407-00094426-00094638 army stood at the gates of Palmyra which MTfEw2S5Ido-00408-00094639-00094833 surrendered when Zenobia tried to flee MTfEw2S5Ido-00409-00094834-00095139 to the Sassanid Empire the Palmyra MTfEw2S5Ido-00410-00095140-00095447 n'aime pyre was no more MTfEw2S5Ido-00411-00095448-00095650 eventually Zenobia and her son were MTfEw2S5Ido-00412-00095651-00095831 captured and made to walk on the streets MTfEw2S5Ido-00413-00095832-00096013 of Rome in his triumph the woman in MTfEw2S5Ido-00414-00096014-00096299 golden chains with the grain stores once MTfEw2S5Ido-00415-00096300-00096524 again shipped to Rome Aurelian soldiers MTfEw2S5Ido-00416-00096525-00096718 handed out free bread to the citizens of MTfEw2S5Ido-00417-00096719-00096884 the city and the emperor was hailed a MTfEw2S5Ido-00418-00096885-00097022 hero by his subjects MTfEw2S5Ido-00419-00097023-00097276 after a brief clash with the Persians MTfEw2S5Ido-00420-00097277-00097478 and another in Egypt against the usurper MTfEw2S5Ido-00421-00097479-00097718 firmus Aurelian was obliged to return to MTfEw2S5Ido-00422-00097719-00098021 Palmyra in 273 when that city rebelled MTfEw2S5Ido-00423-00098022-00098324 once more this time Aurelian allowed his MTfEw2S5Ido-00424-00098325-00098522 soldiers to sack the city and Palmyra MTfEw2S5Ido-00425-00098523-00098806 never recovered more honors came his way MTfEw2S5Ido-00426-00098807-00099023 he was now known as parthak as Maximus MTfEw2S5Ido-00427-00099024-00099278 and Resta tutor Orientis restorer of the MTfEw2S5Ido-00428-00099279-00099575 east the rich province of Egypt was also MTfEw2S5Ido-00429-00099576-00099797 recovered by Aurelian the bruschi and MTfEw2S5Ido-00430-00099798-00100028 royal quarter in Alexandria was burned MTfEw2S5Ido-00431-00100029-00100276 to the ground this section of the city MTfEw2S5Ido-00432-00100277-00100472 once contained the Library of Alexandria MTfEw2S5Ido-00433-00100473-00100691 although the extent of the surviving MTfEw2S5Ido-00434-00100692-00101197 library in Orleans time is uncertain MTfEw2S5Ido-00435-00101198-00101746 topic conquest of the Gallic Empire MTfEw2S5Ido-00436-00101747-00102097 in 274 the victorious Emperor turned his MTfEw2S5Ido-00437-00102098-00102319 attention to the West in the Gallic MTfEw2S5Ido-00438-00102320-00102589 Empire which had already been reduced in MTfEw2S5Ido-00439-00102590-00102867 size by Claudius the second Aurelian won MTfEw2S5Ido-00440-00102868-00103044 this campaign largely through diplomacy MTfEw2S5Ido-00441-00103045-00103402 the Gallic Emperor tetrakis was willing MTfEw2S5Ido-00442-00103403-00103593 to abandon his throne and allow Gaul and MTfEw2S5Ido-00443-00103594-00103794 Britain to return to the Empire but MTfEw2S5Ido-00444-00103795-00103982 could not openly submit to Aurelian MTfEw2S5Ido-00445-00103983-00104224 instead the two seemed to have conspired MTfEw2S5Ido-00446-00104225-00104430 so that when the armies met at châlons MTfEw2S5Ido-00447-00104431-00104614 and champagne that autumn Tetrick is MTfEw2S5Ido-00448-00104615-00104808 simply deserted to the Roman camp and MTfEw2S5Ido-00449-00104809-00105022 Aurelian easily defeated the Gallic army MTfEw2S5Ido-00450-00105023-00105298 facing him tetrakis was rewarded for his MTfEw2S5Ido-00451-00105299-00105445 part in the conspiracy with a MTfEw2S5Ido-00452-00105446-00105748 high-ranking position in illy itself or MTfEw2S5Ido-00453-00105749-00105955 really in return to Rome and won his MTfEw2S5Ido-00454-00105956-00106168 last honorific from the Senate restitute MTfEw2S5Ido-00455-00106169-00106477 er Orbis restorer of the world this MTfEw2S5Ido-00456-00106478-00106696 title was first assumed by Aurelian in MTfEw2S5Ido-00457-00106697-00106990 late summer of 272 and had been carried MTfEw2S5Ido-00458-00106991-00107167 previously by both Valyrian and MTfEw2S5Ido-00459-00107168-00107467 Gallienus in four years Aurelian had MTfEw2S5Ido-00460-00107468-00107665 secured the frontiers of the Empire and MTfEw2S5Ido-00461-00107666-00107845 reunified it effectively giving the MTfEw2S5Ido-00462-00107846-00108055 Empire a new lease on life that lasted MTfEw2S5Ido-00463-00108056-00108421 200 years MTfEw2S5Ido-00464-00108422-00108906 topic reforms MTfEw2S5Ido-00465-00108907-00109174 Elian was a reformer and settled many MTfEw2S5Ido-00466-00109175-00109359 important functions of the Imperial MTfEw2S5Ido-00467-00109360-00109552 apparatus dealing with the economy and MTfEw2S5Ido-00468-00109553-00109809 religion he restored many public MTfEw2S5Ido-00469-00109810-00110023 buildings reorganized the management of MTfEw2S5Ido-00470-00110024-00110254 the food reserves set fixed prices for MTfEw2S5Ido-00471-00110255-00110464 the most important Goods and prosecuted MTfEw2S5Ido-00472-00110465-00110905 misconduct by the public officers MTfEw2S5Ido-00473-00110906-00111416 topic religious reform MTfEw2S5Ido-00474-00111417-00111629 Aurelian strengthened the position of MTfEw2S5Ido-00475-00111630-00111827 the sun god sol invictus as the main MTfEw2S5Ido-00476-00111828-00112082 divinity of the roman pantheon his MTfEw2S5Ido-00477-00112083-00112274 intention was to give to all the peoples MTfEw2S5Ido-00478-00112275-00112472 of the empire civilian or soldiers MTfEw2S5Ido-00479-00112473-00112694 Easterners or Westerners a single God MTfEw2S5Ido-00480-00112695-00112829 that could believe in without betraying MTfEw2S5Ido-00481-00112830-00113108 their own gods the center of the cult MTfEw2S5Ido-00482-00113108-00113378 was a new temple built in 274 and MTfEw2S5Ido-00483-00113379-00113642 dedicated on December 25th of that year MTfEw2S5Ido-00484-00113643-00113858 in the campus Agra Pi in Rome with great MTfEw2S5Ido-00485-00113858-00114068 decorations financed by the spoils of MTfEw2S5Ido-00486-00114069-00114455 the Palmyra Empire during his short rule MTfEw2S5Ido-00487-00114456-00114674 Aurelian seemed to follow the principle MTfEw2S5Ido-00488-00114675-00115001 of one faith one Empire which would not MTfEw2S5Ido-00489-00115002-00115169 be made official until the Edict of MTfEw2S5Ido-00490-00115170-00115406 Thessalonica he appears with the title MTfEw2S5Ido-00491-00115407-00115658 Deus at da minha status God and born MTfEw2S5Ido-00492-00115658-00115960 ruler on some of his coins a style also MTfEw2S5Ido-00493-00115961-00116258 later adopted by Diocletian lactantius MTfEw2S5Ido-00494-00116258-00116461 argued that Aurelian would have outlawed MTfEw2S5Ido-00495-00116463-00116645 all the other gods if he had had enough MTfEw2S5Ido-00496-00116646-00116894 time he was recorded by Christian MTfEw2S5Ido-00497-00116895-00117047 historians as having organized MTfEw2S5Ido-00498-00117048-00117458 persecutions MTfEw2S5Ido-00499-00117458-00117668 topic felissa simmias rebellion and MTfEw2S5Ido-00500-00117669-00118058 coinage reform MTfEw2S5Ido-00501-00118059-00118250 Aurelia pnes rain records the only MTfEw2S5Ido-00502-00118251-00118521 uprising of mint workers the rationale MTfEw2S5Ido-00503-00118522-00118707 is felicia samus a senior public MTfEw2S5Ido-00504-00118708-00118856 financial official whose MTfEw2S5Ido-00505-00118857-00119097 responsibilities included supervision of MTfEw2S5Ido-00506-00119098-00119264 the mint at rome revolted against MTfEw2S5Ido-00507-00119265-00119516 Aurelian the revolt seems to have been MTfEw2S5Ido-00508-00119517-00119706 caused by the fact that the mint workers MTfEw2S5Ido-00509-00119707-00119895 and feliz isa miss first were accustomed MTfEw2S5Ido-00510-00119896-00120101 to stealing the silver for the coins and MTfEw2S5Ido-00511-00120102-00120328 producing coins of inferior quality MTfEw2S5Ido-00512-00120329-00120566 Aurelian wanted to eliminate this and MTfEw2S5Ido-00513-00120567-00120783 put felici tzimmes on trial the MTfEw2S5Ido-00514-00120783-00120989 rationale is incited the mint workers to MTfEw2S5Ido-00515-00120990-00121034 revolt MTfEw2S5Ido-00516-00121035-00121221 the rebellion spread in the streets even MTfEw2S5Ido-00517-00121222-00121415 if it seems that felicia samus was MTfEw2S5Ido-00518-00121416-00121639 killed immediately presumably executed MTfEw2S5Ido-00519-00121640-00121932 the palmyra in rebellion in egypt had MTfEw2S5Ido-00520-00121933-00122114 probably reduced the grain supply to MTfEw2S5Ido-00521-00122115-00122285 rome thus dis affecting the population MTfEw2S5Ido-00522-00122286-00122603 to the emperor this rebellion also had MTfEw2S5Ido-00523-00122604-00122804 the support of some senators probably MTfEw2S5Ido-00524-00122805-00122978 those who had supported the election of MTfEw2S5Ido-00525-00122979-00123149 Quinn Tillis and thus had something to MTfEw2S5Ido-00526-00123150-00123447 fear from Aurelian Aurelian ordered the MTfEw2S5Ido-00527-00123448-00123699 urban cohorts reinforced by some regular MTfEw2S5Ido-00528-00123700-00123878 troops of the Imperial Army to attack MTfEw2S5Ido-00529-00123879-00124107 the rebelling mob the resulting battle MTfEw2S5Ido-00530-00124108-00124286 fought on the caelian hill marked the MTfEw2S5Ido-00531-00124287-00124454 end of the revolt even if at a high MTfEw2S5Ido-00532-00124455-00124649 price some sources give the figure MTfEw2S5Ido-00533-00124650-00124951 probably exaggerated of 7,000 casualties MTfEw2S5Ido-00534-00124952-00125247 many of the rebels were executed also MTfEw2S5Ido-00535-00125248-00125435 some of the supporting senators were put MTfEw2S5Ido-00536-00125436-00125675 to death the mint of Rome was closed MTfEw2S5Ido-00537-00125676-00125874 temporarily and the institution of MTfEw2S5Ido-00538-00125875-00126069 several other mints caused the main mint MTfEw2S5Ido-00539-00126070-00126266 of the Empire to lose its hegemony his MTfEw2S5Ido-00540-00126267-00126458 monetary Reformation included the MTfEw2S5Ido-00541-00126459-00126665 introduction of Antony Miyagi containing MTfEw2S5Ido-00542-00126666-00127034 5% silver they bore the mark 21 or it's MTfEw2S5Ido-00543-00127035-00127233 Greek numerals form calm which meant MTfEw2S5Ido-00544-00127233-00127415 that 20 of such coins would contain the MTfEw2S5Ido-00545-00127416-00127616 same silver quantity of an old silver MTfEw2S5Ido-00546-00127617-00127896 Denarius considering that this was an MTfEw2S5Ido-00547-00127897-00128054 improvement over the previous situation MTfEw2S5Ido-00548-00128055-00128279 gives an idea of the severity of the MTfEw2S5Ido-00549-00128280-00128591 economic situation Aurelian faced the MTfEw2S5Ido-00550-00128592-00128772 emperors struggled to introduce the new MTfEw2S5Ido-00551-00128773-00129124 good coined by recalling all the old bad MTfEw2S5Ido-00552-00129125-00129719 coins prior to their introduction MTfEw2S5Ido-00553-00129720-00130144 topic death MTfEw2S5Ido-00554-00130145-00130492 in 275 Aurelian marched towards Asia MTfEw2S5Ido-00555-00130493-00130717 Minor preparing another campaign against MTfEw2S5Ido-00556-00130718-00130911 the sassanids the deaths of Kings should MTfEw2S5Ido-00557-00130913-00131268 pure the first 272 and Hormuz the first MTfEw2S5Ido-00558-00131269-00131566 273 in quick succession and the rise to MTfEw2S5Ido-00559-00131567-00131746 power of a weakened ruler Barham the MTfEw2S5Ido-00560-00131747-00131944 first presented the opportunity to MTfEw2S5Ido-00561-00131945-00132253 attack the sassanid empire on his way MTfEw2S5Ido-00562-00132254-00132439 the emperor's suppressed a revolt in MTfEw2S5Ido-00563-00132440-00132685 gaul possibly against Faustina's an MTfEw2S5Ido-00564-00132686-00132892 officer or usurper of tetrakis and MTfEw2S5Ido-00565-00132893-00133132 defeated barbarian Marauders in ving MTfEw2S5Ido-00566-00133133-00133468 delecia Germany however Aurelian never MTfEw2S5Ido-00567-00133469-00133654 reached Persia as he was murdered while MTfEw2S5Ido-00568-00133655-00133828 waiting in Thrace to cross into Asia MTfEw2S5Ido-00569-00133829-00134146 Minor as an administrator Aurelian had MTfEw2S5Ido-00570-00134147-00134338 been very strict and handed out severe MTfEw2S5Ido-00571-00134339-00134515 punishments to corrupt officials or MTfEw2S5Ido-00572-00134516-00134821 soldiers a secretary of Aurelian called MTfEw2S5Ido-00573-00134822-00135037 eros by Zosima s-- had told a lie on a MTfEw2S5Ido-00574-00135038-00135310 minor issue in fear of what the Emperor MTfEw2S5Ido-00575-00135311-00135523 might do he forged a document listing MTfEw2S5Ido-00576-00135524-00135688 the names of high officials marked by MTfEw2S5Ido-00577-00135689-00135868 the Emperor for execution and showed it MTfEw2S5Ido-00578-00135869-00136132 to collaborators the note arias ma MTfEw2S5Ido-00579-00136133-00136327 Cooper and other high-ranking officers MTfEw2S5Ido-00580-00136328-00136456 of the Praetorian Guard MTfEw2S5Ido-00581-00136457-00136612 fearing punishment from the Emperor MTfEw2S5Ido-00582-00136613-00136903 murdered him in September 275 in MTfEw2S5Ido-00583-00136904-00137289 California race modern Turkey MTfEw2S5Ido-00584-00137290-00137490 Aurelia ng's enemies in the senate MTfEw2S5Ido-00585-00137491-00137706 briefly succeeded in passing damnatio MTfEw2S5Ido-00586-00137707-00137916 memoriae on the emperor but this was MTfEw2S5Ido-00587-00137917-00138084 reversed before the end of the year in MTfEw2S5Ido-00588-00138085-00138297 Aurelian like his predecessor Claudius MTfEw2S5Ido-00589-00138298-00138678 ii was deified as Divus or le anus there MTfEw2S5Ido-00590-00138679-00138879 is substantial evidence that or aliens MTfEw2S5Ido-00591-00138880-00139062 wife all pious every nough who had been MTfEw2S5Ido-00592-00139063-00139356 declared Augusta in 274 may have ruled MTfEw2S5Ido-00593-00139357-00139545 the Empire by her own power for some MTfEw2S5Ido-00594-00139546-00139779 time after his death the sources MTfEw2S5Ido-00595-00139780-00139929 indicate that there was an interregnum MTfEw2S5Ido-00596-00139930-00140145 between or aliens death in the election MTfEw2S5Ido-00597-00140146-00140334 of Marcus Claudius Tacitus as his MTfEw2S5Ido-00598-00140335-00140619 successor additionally some of opus MTfEw2S5Ido-00599-00140620-00140787 coins appeared to have been minted after MTfEw2S5Ido-00600-00140788-00141166 or aliens death MTfEw2S5Ido-00601-00141167-00141682 topic legacy MTfEw2S5Ido-00602-00141683-00141922 or really in short reign reunited a MTfEw2S5Ido-00603-00141923-00142144 fragmented Empire while saving Rome from MTfEw2S5Ido-00604-00142145-00142321 barbarian invasions that had reached MTfEw2S5Ido-00605-00142322-00142615 Italy itself his death prevented a full MTfEw2S5Ido-00606-00142616-00142840 restoration of political stability in a MTfEw2S5Ido-00607-00142841-00143023 lasting dynasty that could end the cycle MTfEw2S5Ido-00608-00143024-00143239 of assassination of emperors and civil MTfEw2S5Ido-00609-00143240-00143536 war that marked this period even so he MTfEw2S5Ido-00610-00143537-00143677 brought the Empire through a very MTfEw2S5Ido-00611-00143678-00143863 critical period in its history and MTfEw2S5Ido-00612-00143864-00144031 without Aurelian it may never have MTfEw2S5Ido-00613-00144032-00144223 survived the invasions and fragmentation MTfEw2S5Ido-00614-00144224-00144400 of the decade in which he reign MTfEw2S5Ido-00615-00144401-00144664 moreover the western half of the empire MTfEw2S5Ido-00616-00144665-00144859 would survive another two hundred years MTfEw2S5Ido-00617-00144860-00145000 while the East would last another MTfEw2S5Ido-00618-00145001-00145198 millennium and for that Aurelian must be MTfEw2S5Ido-00619-00145199-00145366 allowed much of the credit the city of MTfEw2S5Ido-00620-00145367-00145531 or Leone in France is named after MTfEw2S5Ido-00621-00145532-00145807 Aurelian originally named soon oblem MTfEw2S5Ido-00622-00145808-00146029 Aurelian rebuilt and renamed it orally MTfEw2S5Ido-00623-00146030-00146296 aina more or Iliana Civitas city of MTfEw2S5Ido-00624-00146297-00146587 Aurelian city aid or alien which evolved MTfEw2S5Ido-00625-00146588-00146785 into or lay on the city of New Orleans MTfEw2S5Ido-00626-00146786-00147025 in French blend nouvelle or Lian in MTfEw2S5Ido-00627-00147026-00147256 Louisiana United States is named after MTfEw2S5Ido-00628-00147257-00147475 the commune of or Lian and therefore by MTfEw2S5Ido-00629-00147476-00147901 extension or alien MTfEw2S5Ido-00630-00147902-00148401 topic notes MTfEw2S5Ido-00631-00148402-00148919 topic references MTfEw2S5Ido-00632-00148920-00149452 topic primary sources MTfEw2S5Ido-00633-00149453-00149738 Aurelius Viktor epitome de Caesar Abbess MTfEw2S5Ido-00634-00149739-00150113 XXXV epitome de Caesar abyss fourth MTfEw2S5Ido-00635-00150114-00150468 century you Tropius bravi areum historia MTfEw2S5Ido-00636-00150469-00150797 Roman I X 13 to 15 fourth century MTfEw2S5Ido-00637-00150798-00151110 historian Augusta orally anus life of MTfEw2S5Ido-00638-00151111-00151509 Aurelian part 1 part 2 part 3 Zosima s-- MTfEw2S5Ido-00639-00151510-00151713 historian ova translation of the MTfEw2S5Ido-00640-00151714-00152022 historian ova published in 1814 book one MTfEw2S5Ido-00641-00152023-00152358 fifth sixth century Joanne's own eras MTfEw2S5Ido-00642-00152359-00152600 compendium of history compendium excerpt MTfEw2S5Ido-00643-00152601-00153002 Claudius two Diocletian 268 to 284 MTfEw2S5Ido-00644-00153003-00153369 twelfth century MTfEw2S5Ido-00645-00153370-00153959 topic secondary sources MTfEw2S5Ido-00646-00153960-00154324 corner Christian the 20th of July 2001 MTfEw2S5Ido-00647-00154325-00154661 Aurelian day Imperator abyss Romanus MTfEw2S5Ido-00648-00154662-00154898 archived from the original on the 20th MTfEw2S5Ido-00649-00154899-00155240 of October 2006 retrieved the 4th of MTfEw2S5Ido-00650-00155241-00155690 November 2006 corner 2001 sunders MTfEw2S5Ido-00651-00155691-00156077 randall titus 1992 a biography of the MTfEw2S5Ido-00652-00156078-00156599 Emperor Aurelian ad 272 275 and Arbor MTfEw2S5Ido-00653-00156600-00156865 Michigan Umi dissertation services MTfEw2S5Ido-00654-00156866-00157252 southern Pat 2001 the Roman Empire from MTfEw2S5Ido-00655-00157253-00157566 Severus to Constantine route Lidge key MTfEw2S5Ido-00656-00157567-00157973 125 is B and O four one five two three MTfEw2S5Ido-00657-00157974-00158344 nine four four three southern 2001 MTfEw2S5Ido-00658-00158345-00158798 Watson Alaric 1999 Aurelian in the third MTfEw2S5Ido-00659-00158799-00159149 century route Lidge is B and O four one MTfEw2S5Ido-00660-00159150-00159746 five zero seven two four eight four MTfEw2S5Ido-00661-00159747-00160059 topic further reading MTfEw2S5Ido-00662-00160060-00160209 you MTfEw2S5Ido-00663-00160210-00160560 white John 2015 the Roman Emperor MTfEw2S5Ido-00664-00160561-00160829 Aurelian restorer of the world case made MTfEw2S5Ido-00665-00160830-00161120 publishers and book distributors LLC MTfEw2S5Ido-00666-00161121-00161418 ISBN nine seven eight one four seven MTfEw2S5Ido-00667-00161419-00161984 three eight four five six nine five MTfEw2S5Ido-00668-00161985-00162476 topic external links MTfEw2S5Ido-00669-00162477-00162768 or really in coinage at wild winds MTfEw2S5Ido-00670-00162769-00163068 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to everyone MVQsZdt8xdY-00012-00002856-00003158 and that is because of the narrative MVQsZdt8xdY-00013-00003159-00003319 that they put out there for us to MVQsZdt8xdY-00014-00003320-00003390 consume MVQsZdt8xdY-00015-00003392-00003727 as consumers so a lot of marketing that MVQsZdt8xdY-00016-00003728-00003831 they put out there MVQsZdt8xdY-00017-00003832-00004215 to make kylie have this image of being a MVQsZdt8xdY-00018-00004216-00004351 nice person MVQsZdt8xdY-00019-00004352-00004702 now recently it has come to the light MVQsZdt8xdY-00020-00004703-00004743 and MVQsZdt8xdY-00021-00004744-00005095 come to our attention that kylie jenner MVQsZdt8xdY-00022-00005096-00005470 is most likely not such a nice person MVQsZdt8xdY-00023-00005471-00005815 so kylie jenner most recently has been MVQsZdt8xdY-00024-00005816-00005886 facing MVQsZdt8xdY-00025-00005887-00006231 some criticism in regards to MVQsZdt8xdY-00026-00006232-00006575 some very very critical allegations that MVQsZdt8xdY-00027-00006576-00006670 are being made MVQsZdt8xdY-00028-00006672-00006975 about her and about her character and so MVQsZdt8xdY-00029-00006976-00007095 if you want to learn a little bit more MVQsZdt8xdY-00030-00007095-00007134 about MVQsZdt8xdY-00031-00007136-00007423 what's going on definitely make sure to MVQsZdt8xdY-00032-00007423-00007510 stick around MVQsZdt8xdY-00033-00007511-00007710 through the rest of this video to find MVQsZdt8xdY-00034-00007711-00007823 out more MVQsZdt8xdY-00035-00007823-00008134 now wendy williams is one of the people MVQsZdt8xdY-00036-00008136-00008335 that actually covered this story most MVQsZdt8xdY-00037-00008336-00008407 recently MVQsZdt8xdY-00038-00008408-00008559 went ahead and looked into it a little MVQsZdt8xdY-00039-00008560-00008783 bit more and what i found was so MVQsZdt8xdY-00040-00008784-00009095 interesting so so interesting and so MVQsZdt8xdY-00041-00009096-00009374 unexpected it's not something that i MVQsZdt8xdY-00042-00009375-00009471 expected MVQsZdt8xdY-00043-00009472-00009774 to find so before we get into that let's MVQsZdt8xdY-00044-00009775-00009967 take a look at what wendy williams had MVQsZdt8xdY-00045-00009968-00010606 to say about this particular situation MVQsZdt8xdY-00046-00010607-00010831 they were instructed not to talk to MVQsZdt8xdY-00047-00010832-00011014 kylie or take pictures with her or look MVQsZdt8xdY-00048-00011015-00011103 at her MVQsZdt8xdY-00049-00011104-00011695 uh and she also never spoke to the staff MVQsZdt8xdY-00050-00011696-00011910 on one hand oh wow on the other hand MVQsZdt8xdY-00051-00011911-00012142 she's not there to do all that MVQsZdt8xdY-00052-00012143-00012438 she's there to put on a hazmat suit her MVQsZdt8xdY-00053-00012439-00012551 hair in a bun MVQsZdt8xdY-00054-00012552-00012886 smell back forth back forth and whoever MVQsZdt8xdY-00055-00012887-00012991 is running MVQsZdt8xdY-00056-00012991-00013151 for that particular day whoever the MVQsZdt8xdY-00057-00013152-00013311 manager is uh MVQsZdt8xdY-00058-00013312-00013615 should be then recommended you know with MVQsZdt8xdY-00059-00013616-00013727 the workers coming out MVQsZdt8xdY-00060-00013728-00013886 saying they want to lean into her while MVQsZdt8xdY-00061-00013887-00014503 she's trying to sniff smell and MVQsZdt8xdY-00062-00014504-00014615 something could have been arranged MVQsZdt8xdY-00063-00014616-00014799 though you know the factory super MVQsZdt8xdY-00064-00014800-00014935 advisor this is your fault MVQsZdt8xdY-00065-00014936-00015111 you could have had a lunchtime signing MVQsZdt8xdY-00066-00015112-00015279 with kylie or something like that or MVQsZdt8xdY-00067-00015280-00015350 maybe MVQsZdt8xdY-00068-00015351-00016311 that kind of assigned a whole bunch of MVQsZdt8xdY-00069-00016312-00016511 kylie jenner has workers that work for MVQsZdt8xdY-00070-00016512-00016622 her and her MVQsZdt8xdY-00071-00016623-00016935 own workers are calling her out MVQsZdt8xdY-00072-00016936-00017294 on the fact that they are MVQsZdt8xdY-00073-00017295-00017607 basically instructed to not even look MVQsZdt8xdY-00074-00017608-00017999 at kylie and here we have wendy williams MVQsZdt8xdY-00075-00018000-00018135 doing what she usually does MVQsZdt8xdY-00076-00018136-00018486 being a fan of stand MVQsZdt8xdY-00077-00018487-00018783 and supporting that behavior that is MVQsZdt8xdY-00078-00018784-00018927 ridiculous like MVQsZdt8xdY-00079-00018928-00019119 the the manager what the heck does the MVQsZdt8xdY-00080-00019120-00019286 manager have to do with anything what MVQsZdt8xdY-00081-00019287-00019447 are you even saying like MVQsZdt8xdY-00082-00019448-00019630 like are you even in the right state of MVQsZdt8xdY-00083-00019631-00019847 mind like that this is the thing MVQsZdt8xdY-00084-00019848-00020150 i don't understand why MVQsZdt8xdY-00085-00020151-00020463 wendy williams is so far up the butt MVQsZdt8xdY-00086-00020464-00020703 of the kardashians every episode that MVQsZdt8xdY-00087-00020704-00020767 she does MVQsZdt8xdY-00088-00020768-00021158 that has a kardashian in it she never MVQsZdt8xdY-00089-00021159-00021358 ever speaks the truth you have people MVQsZdt8xdY-00090-00021359-00021527 that are working for you and this is how MVQsZdt8xdY-00091-00021528-00021678 you treat them MVQsZdt8xdY-00092-00021679-00021975 y'all and that speaks a lot to her MVQsZdt8xdY-00093-00021976-00022086 character MVQsZdt8xdY-00094-00022087-00022343 that speaks a lot to the way that she MVQsZdt8xdY-00095-00022344-00022391 really MVQsZdt8xdY-00096-00022392-00022639 is and that tells me that what she's MVQsZdt8xdY-00097-00022640-00022694 been MVQsZdt8xdY-00098-00022695-00023007 trying to portray on social media as MVQsZdt8xdY-00099-00023008-00023303 being the victim or being a good person MVQsZdt8xdY-00100-00023304-00023471 is inaccurate this is MVQsZdt8xdY-00101-00023472-00023639 not a sign of someone that's a good MVQsZdt8xdY-00102-00023640-00023807 person and it's also not a sign of MVQsZdt8xdY-00103-00023808-00023919 someone that MVQsZdt8xdY-00104-00023920-00024214 um isn't is in a healthy state of being MVQsZdt8xdY-00105-00024215-00024294 mentally MVQsZdt8xdY-00106-00024295-00024655 are you gonna go see your employees and MVQsZdt8xdY-00107-00024656-00024839 they can't even talk to you MVQsZdt8xdY-00108-00024840-00025283 or look in your direction are you MVQsZdt8xdY-00109-00025284-00025599 jesus so the situation is MVQsZdt8xdY-00110-00025600-00025831 two former employees claim that they MVQsZdt8xdY-00111-00025832-00025927 were ordered MVQsZdt8xdY-00112-00025927-00026255 not to look at kylie or chris jenner MVQsZdt8xdY-00113-00026256-00026535 they say that they were degraded and MVQsZdt8xdY-00114-00026536-00026799 they also claimed that kylie never even MVQsZdt8xdY-00115-00026800-00027046 talked to any of the factory staff while MVQsZdt8xdY-00116-00027047-00027167 they were there MVQsZdt8xdY-00117-00027168-00027470 so the company was launched in 2015 MVQsZdt8xdY-00118-00027472-00027767 kylie cosmetics and this factory MVQsZdt8xdY-00119-00027768-00027887 essentially MVQsZdt8xdY-00120-00027888-00028246 is responsible for making kylie's MVQsZdt8xdY-00121-00028247-00028374 cosmetics MVQsZdt8xdY-00122-00028375-00028631 so whenever they go whenever kris jenner MVQsZdt8xdY-00123-00028632-00028758 and kylie go MVQsZdt8xdY-00124-00028760-00029079 apparently they order the staff MVQsZdt8xdY-00125-00029080-00029383 workers to not even look at them MVQsZdt8xdY-00126-00029383-00029727 which is so insane to me like MVQsZdt8xdY-00127-00029727-00030046 who does who does that MVQsZdt8xdY-00128-00030047-00030390 i so now you own my eyes i can't MVQsZdt8xdY-00129-00030391-00030614 look at whatever the heck i want to look MVQsZdt8xdY-00130-00030616-00030711 at is this MVQsZdt8xdY-00131-00030712-00031023 even real right now especially during MVQsZdt8xdY-00132-00031024-00031351 times where workers are always being MVQsZdt8xdY-00133-00031352-00031439 abused MVQsZdt8xdY-00134-00031439-00031751 you come in you can't even say hello MVQsZdt8xdY-00135-00031752-00031999 who raised you i don't know what the MVQsZdt8xdY-00136-00032000-00032246 heck wendy is talking about the manager MVQsZdt8xdY-00137-00032247-00032431 what the heck is the manager supposed to MVQsZdt8xdY-00138-00032432-00032583 do about that MVQsZdt8xdY-00139-00032583-00032767 right like so now you want to blame the MVQsZdt8xdY-00140-00032768-00033007 manager some person in the show who MVQsZdt8xdY-00141-00033008-00033255 knows if there's even actually a manager MVQsZdt8xdY-00142-00033256-00033583 so it makes no sense to try to pass on MVQsZdt8xdY-00143-00033584-00033774 blame when clearly MVQsZdt8xdY-00144-00033775-00033959 these people try to make it seem like MVQsZdt8xdY-00145-00033960-00034087 they're good people MVQsZdt8xdY-00146-00034088-00034374 but they're most likely not not if you MVQsZdt8xdY-00147-00034375-00034590 treat your employees like second-class MVQsZdt8xdY-00148-00034591-00034679 citizens MVQsZdt8xdY-00149-00034680-00035007 as though you don't have the same red MVQsZdt8xdY-00150-00035008-00035295 blood flowing in your body as they do MVQsZdt8xdY-00151-00035296-00035446 very humiliating MVQsZdt8xdY-00152-00035447-00035727 one of the people that brought first MVQsZdt8xdY-00153-00035728-00035943 brought this to light about MVQsZdt8xdY-00154-00035944-00036295 kylie jenner and her business practices MVQsZdt8xdY-00155-00036296-00036607 uh her name is irene and she's 32 years MVQsZdt8xdY-00156-00036608-00036823 old and during her interview this is MVQsZdt8xdY-00157-00036824-00036974 exactly what she said MVQsZdt8xdY-00158-00036975-00037255 she said before they would come in our MVQsZdt8xdY-00159-00037256-00037439 supervisors would tell us MVQsZdt8xdY-00160-00037440-00037702 you are not allowed to talk with them MVQsZdt8xdY-00161-00037703-00037927 you guys are supposed to keep on working MVQsZdt8xdY-00162-00037928-00038143 as are not allowed to take any pictures MVQsZdt8xdY-00163-00038144-00038327 or ask any questions MVQsZdt8xdY-00164-00038328-00038543 the former employee added that kylie MVQsZdt8xdY-00165-00038544-00038711 would never talk to the staff MVQsZdt8xdY-00166-00038712-00038951 just watch silently as her glossy range MVQsZdt8xdY-00167-00038952-00039151 was made right in front of her eyes MVQsZdt8xdY-00168-00039152-00039343 as though you know as though she were MVQsZdt8xdY-00169-00039344-00039502 jesus or something MVQsZdt8xdY-00170-00039503-00039815 so that that that really hit home to me MVQsZdt8xdY-00171-00039816-00040118 i mean people and employees are so MVQsZdt8xdY-00172-00040119-00040446 mistreated nowadays it's MVQsZdt8xdY-00173-00040447-00040718 baffling it's another former spats MVQsZdt8xdY-00174-00040719-00040799 laboratory MVQsZdt8xdY-00175-00040800-00041135 employee martha molasco MVQsZdt8xdY-00176-00041136-00041487 who worked there from 2015 to 2017 MVQsZdt8xdY-00177-00041488-00041702 said there were rules for staff when MVQsZdt8xdY-00178-00041703-00041830 kylie visited MVQsZdt8xdY-00179-00041831-00042174 the factory so she said in her words MVQsZdt8xdY-00180-00042175-00042351 supervisors would say MVQsZdt8xdY-00181-00042352-00042567 don't talk to them don't even look at MVQsZdt8xdY-00182-00042568-00042799 them and that is what MVQsZdt8xdY-00183-00042800-00043118 and that is what in martha's words quote MVQsZdt8xdY-00184-00043119-00043351 unquote what she reported and martha MVQsZdt8xdY-00185-00043352-00043567 molaska was 31 years old MVQsZdt8xdY-00186-00043568-00043807 so she said the supervisors would say MVQsZdt8xdY-00187-00043808-00043943 don't talk to them MVQsZdt8xdY-00188-00043944-00044262 don't even look at them can you imagine MVQsZdt8xdY-00189-00044263-00044558 working in such a place like that MVQsZdt8xdY-00190-00044559-00044702 working in that type of a MVQsZdt8xdY-00191-00044703-00045039 toxic environment for such toxic MVQsZdt8xdY-00192-00045040-00045351 people i cannot even MVQsZdt8xdY-00193-00045352-00045662 imagine it's to treat human beings like MVQsZdt8xdY-00194-00045663-00045774 that MVQsZdt8xdY-00195-00045775-00046023 that's that just blows my mind MVQsZdt8xdY-00196-00046024-00046143 understandably MVQsZdt8xdY-00197-00046144-00046446 irene said that she felt degraded during MVQsZdt8xdY-00198-00046447-00046599 her time at the company MVQsZdt8xdY-00199-00046600-00046774 and also said that the staff were MVQsZdt8xdY-00200-00046775-00046958 expected to complete quotas MVQsZdt8xdY-00201-00046959-00047286 of up to 1200 products every day MVQsZdt8xdY-00202-00047287-00047623 with no appreciation nothing that would MVQsZdt8xdY-00203-00047624-00047662 work MVQsZdt8xdY-00204-00047663-00048015 or help them in performing their tests MVQsZdt8xdY-00205-00048016-00048335 in a most effective way possible and so MVQsZdt8xdY-00206-00048336-00048639 we kind of see the greed and the level MVQsZdt8xdY-00207-00048640-00048751 of mistreatment MVQsZdt8xdY-00208-00048752-00049127 in this and it's just a perfect example MVQsZdt8xdY-00209-00049128-00049423 of the type of world that we live in MVQsZdt8xdY-00210-00049424-00049502 today MVQsZdt8xdY-00211-00049503-00049758 so said and i quote this is a direct MVQsZdt8xdY-00212-00049759-00049879 quote from her MVQsZdt8xdY-00213-00049880-00050055 when she was doing the interview she MVQsZdt8xdY-00214-00050056-00050302 said the supervisors i had there MVQsZdt8xdY-00215-00050303-00050518 had been very degrading towards MVQsZdt8xdY-00216-00050519-00050623 everybody MVQsZdt8xdY-00217-00050624-00050886 everything had to be perfectly made if MVQsZdt8xdY-00218-00050887-00050974 it wasn't MVQsZdt8xdY-00219-00050975-00051174 they would throw it away in your face MVQsZdt8xdY-00220-00051175-00051319 like it was trash MVQsZdt8xdY-00221-00051320-00051558 if you didn't go fast enough you were MVQsZdt8xdY-00222-00051559-00051670 going to get MVQsZdt8xdY-00223-00051671-00052046 fired that is crazy to me i that MVQsZdt8xdY-00224-00052047-00052358 this is just blowing my mind so the MVQsZdt8xdY-00225-00052359-00052487 former employees MVQsZdt8xdY-00226-00052488-00052775 said that she was often left in tears MVQsZdt8xdY-00227-00052776-00052919 after being scolded MVQsZdt8xdY-00228-00052920-00053103 for not being fast enough on the MVQsZdt8xdY-00229-00053104-00053254 production line MVQsZdt8xdY-00230-00053255-00053535 once she claims her supervisor threw all MVQsZdt8xdY-00231-00053536-00053791 of her completed project products MVQsZdt8xdY-00232-00053791-00054047 right into the trash forcing her to MVQsZdt8xdY-00233-00054048-00054319 start all over again MVQsZdt8xdY-00234-00054320-00054663 i'm again like wow irene also claims MVQsZdt8xdY-00235-00054664-00054838 that she was expected to produce the MVQsZdt8xdY-00236-00054839-00055007 popular makeup items MVQsZdt8xdY-00237-00055008-00055247 after she was trained for only five MVQsZdt8xdY-00238-00055248-00055335 minutes MVQsZdt8xdY-00239-00055336-00055638 and was verbally threatened and degraded MVQsZdt8xdY-00240-00055639-00055838 if she asked any questions to her MVQsZdt8xdY-00241-00055839-00056047 supervisors MVQsZdt8xdY-00242-00056048-00056366 this is such a toxic work environment MVQsZdt8xdY-00243-00056367-00056591 the staff were told that they could be MVQsZdt8xdY-00244-00056591-00056854 laid off from the minimum wage job MVQsZdt8xdY-00245-00056855-00057119 and replaced by someone else from the MVQsZdt8xdY-00246-00057120-00057159 temp MVQsZdt8xdY-00247-00057160-00057463 agency if they were to do anything wrong MVQsZdt8xdY-00248-00057464-00057766 artha also said that physical labor with MVQsZdt8xdY-00249-00057767-00057871 her MVQsZdt8xdY-00250-00057872-00058247 with her health issues and pain MVQsZdt8xdY-00251-00058248-00058566 uh from her hands to her elbows after MVQsZdt8xdY-00252-00058567-00058750 working 12 hours shifts MVQsZdt8xdY-00253-00058751-00059071 from 4 pm to 4 am while standing in the MVQsZdt8xdY-00254-00059072-00059159 factory MVQsZdt8xdY-00255-00059160-00059463 really really affected her on a MVQsZdt8xdY-00256-00059464-00059654 mental health perspective as well as a MVQsZdt8xdY-00257-00059655-00059823 physical health perspective MVQsZdt8xdY-00258-00059824-00060103 and irene claimed that she worked eight MVQsZdt8xdY-00259-00060104-00060199 hour shifts MVQsZdt8xdY-00260-00060200-00060430 but was often pressured to come in on MVQsZdt8xdY-00261-00060432-00060526 weekends MVQsZdt8xdY-00262-00060527-00060830 in fear of being fired oh MVQsZdt8xdY-00263-00060832-00061142 my goodness the single mother of two MVQsZdt8xdY-00264-00061144-00061503 irene uh said that she struggled to find MVQsZdt8xdY-00265-00061504-00061703 child care on the weekends but was still MVQsZdt8xdY-00266-00061704-00061830 made to come in MVQsZdt8xdY-00267-00061832-00062038 or she was threatened with losing her MVQsZdt8xdY-00268-00062039-00062254 job so irene also MVQsZdt8xdY-00269-00062255-00062575 claimed workers were crammed in together MVQsZdt8xdY-00270-00062576-00062782 especially during the pandemic MVQsZdt8xdY-00271-00062783-00063063 meanwhile martha said that she had to MVQsZdt8xdY-00272-00063064-00063159 ensure MVQsZdt8xdY-00273-00063160-00063454 cold conditions in the winter and MVQsZdt8xdY-00274-00063455-00063591 sweltering heat MVQsZdt8xdY-00275-00063591-00063799 in the summer during those months she MVQsZdt8xdY-00276-00063800-00063935 had to endure MVQsZdt8xdY-00277-00063936-00064238 through all of those things so irene MVQsZdt8xdY-00278-00064239-00064511 of course thankfully no longer works at MVQsZdt8xdY-00279-00064512-00064599 the factory MVQsZdt8xdY-00280-00064600-00064863 but she did say that she has been told MVQsZdt8xdY-00281-00064864-00065038 by the current employees that the MVQsZdt8xdY-00282-00065039-00065263 conditions are still the same MVQsZdt8xdY-00283-00065264-00065511 and online reviews from fellow MVQsZdt8xdY-00284-00065512-00065703 disgruntled employees MVQsZdt8xdY-00285-00065704-00065903 paint a similar picture one of the MVQsZdt8xdY-00286-00065904-00066071 online reviews read MVQsZdt8xdY-00287-00066072-00066359 people have to go through an employment MVQsZdt8xdY-00288-00066360-00066615 agency to get a job at this place MVQsZdt8xdY-00289-00066616-00066806 so that the company doesn't have a MVQsZdt8xdY-00290-00066807-00066959 problem firing you MVQsZdt8xdY-00291-00066960-00067247 if you pull or if you can't pull a 10 to MVQsZdt8xdY-00292-00067248-00067294 12 MVQsZdt8xdY-00293-00067295-00067647 hour shift hr does not care if you're a MVQsZdt8xdY-00294-00067648-00067831 hard worker or not MVQsZdt8xdY-00295-00067832-00068126 if you if you're not part of the company MVQsZdt8xdY-00296-00068127-00068367 they don't care about your opinion or MVQsZdt8xdY-00297-00068368-00068455 your concerns MVQsZdt8xdY-00298-00068456-00068663 put up this huge front like everything MVQsZdt8xdY-00299-00068664-00068767 is good MVQsZdt8xdY-00300-00068768-00069063 the people that i talked to didn't like MVQsZdt8xdY-00301-00069064-00069126 the job MVQsZdt8xdY-00302-00069127-00069359 i mean this place is a mess i'm MVQsZdt8xdY-00303-00069360-00069575 surprised it hasn't shut down MVQsZdt8xdY-00304-00069576-00069926 i would give this place zero stars but MVQsZdt8xdY-00305-00069927-00070223 that option isn't there another MVQsZdt8xdY-00306-00070224-00070406 scorching review on indeed MVQsZdt8xdY-00307-00070407-00070791 from 2019 said if you are looking to get MVQsZdt8xdY-00308-00070792-00071167 minimum but work like a dog 50 hours a MVQsZdt8xdY-00309-00071168-00071367 week on the holiday season MVQsZdt8xdY-00310-00071368-00071687 just so you can get laid off after or MVQsZdt8xdY-00311-00071688-00072031 get four hours a day when it's not MVQsZdt8xdY-00312-00072032-00072326 seasonal then go for it management only MVQsZdt8xdY-00313-00072327-00072382 wants MVQsZdt8xdY-00314-00072383-00072719 the numbers former employees have also MVQsZdt8xdY-00315-00072720-00072831 filed complaints MVQsZdt8xdY-00316-00072832-00073079 with the california labor commissioner's MVQsZdt8xdY-00317-00073080-00073135 office MVQsZdt8xdY-00318-00073136-00073335 this is crazy to me you guys what do you MVQsZdt8xdY-00319-00073336-00073511 guys think about this this is why this MVQsZdt8xdY-00320-00073512-00073711 was so insane to me MVQsZdt8xdY-00321-00073712-00073911 i could not believe what i was hearing MVQsZdt8xdY-00322-00073912-00074159 especially in 2021 MVQsZdt8xdY-00323-00074160-00074438 because so many people this year are MVQsZdt8xdY-00324-00074439-00074487 either MVQsZdt8xdY-00325-00074488-00074719 thinking about quitting their jobs or MVQsZdt8xdY-00326-00074720-00074943 have already quit their jobs i made a MVQsZdt8xdY-00327-00074944-00075023 video MVQsZdt8xdY-00328-00075024-00075350 on why 40 of americans are MVQsZdt8xdY-00329-00075351-00075487 either thinking about quitting their MVQsZdt8xdY-00330-00075488-00075726 jobs or have already quit their jobs if MVQsZdt8xdY-00331-00075727-00075894 you haven't watched that video MVQsZdt8xdY-00332-00075895-00076062 go ahead and make sure to watch that MVQsZdt8xdY-00333-00076063-00076199 video i will leave MVQsZdt8xdY-00334-00076200-00076591 the link below so what do you think MVQsZdt8xdY-00335-00076592-00076862 this is exactly why this is why people MVQsZdt8xdY-00336-00076863-00076999 are quitting their jobs and starting to MVQsZdt8xdY-00337-00077000-00077062 realize MVQsZdt8xdY-00338-00077063-00077255 it's not worth it working for anyone MVQsZdt8xdY-00339-00077256-00077494 else even people in the public eye MVQsZdt8xdY-00340-00077495-00077711 that you expect or you would think are MVQsZdt8xdY-00341-00077712-00077799 good people MVQsZdt8xdY-00342-00077800-00077967 because that's the narrative that they MVQsZdt8xdY-00343-00077968-00078182 put out all the time MVQsZdt8xdY-00344-00078183-00078415 actually are not and they treat other MVQsZdt8xdY-00345-00078416-00078550 human beings like trash MVQsZdt8xdY-00346-00078551-00078743 because they feel like they have a lot MVQsZdt8xdY-00347-00078744-00078879 of money and MVQsZdt8xdY-00348-00078880-00079159 that's the way that they go about doing MVQsZdt8xdY-00349-00079160-00079262 what they do MVQsZdt8xdY-00350-00079263-00079494 but this is this is crazy this is why i MVQsZdt8xdY-00351-00079495-00079567 believe MVQsZdt8xdY-00352-00079568-00079871 every word of of this story MVQsZdt8xdY-00353-00079872-00080126 is this everything that i found in MVQsZdt8xdY-00354-00080127-00080271 regards to this story MVQsZdt8xdY-00355-00080272-00080438 but go ahead and leave a comment below MVQsZdt8xdY-00356-00080439-00080606 let me know what you think and MVQsZdt8xdY-00357-00080607-00080935 again as i always caution all of you MVQsZdt8xdY-00358-00080936-00081167 please please please do not compare MVQsZdt8xdY-00359-00081168-00081271 yourself to MVQsZdt8xdY-00360-00081272-00081606 these rich people or famous people MVQsZdt8xdY-00361-00081607-00081894 because they are not who they seem they MVQsZdt8xdY-00362-00081895-00081950 just MVQsZdt8xdY-00363-00081951-00082191 are not someone that you're thinking is MVQsZdt8xdY-00364-00082192-00082431 a good person most likely is not MVQsZdt8xdY-00365-00082432-00082662 so be careful this is another really MVQsZdt8xdY-00366-00082663-00082799 good example MVQsZdt8xdY-00367-00082800-00083006 of why it's so important from a mental MVQsZdt8xdY-00368-00083007-00083135 health perspective MVQsZdt8xdY-00369-00083136-00083455 to be careful with what you're seeing MVQsZdt8xdY-00370-00083456-00083703 and what you're choosing to believe is MVQsZdt8xdY-00371-00083704-00083782 the truth MVQsZdt8xdY-00372-00083783-00084094 whatever they're showing you is not the MVQsZdt8xdY-00373-00084095-00084199 truth it's just MVQsZdt8xdY-00374-00084200-00084375 what they've made up and what they want MVQsZdt8xdY-00375-00084376-00084535 you to do it's true MVQsZdt8xdY-00376-00084536-00084838 right so now we're seeing the truth and MVQsZdt8xdY-00377-00084839-00085047 bits and pieces of the truth come out MVQsZdt8xdY-00378-00085048-00085287 and which is so sad it's terrible to see MVQsZdt8xdY-00379-00085288-00085462 i will talk to you guys later go ahead MVQsZdt8xdY-00380-00085463-00085615 and smash that like button MVQsZdt8xdY-00381-00085616-00085815 for me if this was at all informative MVQsZdt8xdY-00382-00085816-00085950 entertaining or anything MVQsZdt8xdY-00383-00085951-00086150 else go ahead and smash the subscribe MVQsZdt8xdY-00384-00086151-00086335 button to see more content such as this MVQsZdt8xdY-00385-00086336-00086382 one MVQsZdt8xdY-00386-00086383-00086591 i will talk to you guys soon see you in MVQsZdt8xdY-00387-00086592-00086694 the next video MVQsZdt8xdY-00388-00086695-00086992 bye MWzISyAvPQA-00000-00000130-00001411 [Music] MWzISyAvPQA-00001-00001412-00001707 thank you MWzISyAvPQA-00003-00005016-00005195 foreign MWzISyAvPQA-00004-00005196-00005947 [Music] MWzISyAvPQA-00005-00005948-00007370 [Music] MWzISyAvPQA-00006-00007372-00009695 [Music] MWzISyAvPQA-00007-00009696-00009837 foreign MWzISyAvPQA-00008-00009838-00011106 [Music] MWzISyAvPQA-00009-00011107-00012111 [Music] MWBK1AQJYXu-00000-00000003-00000316 hello everybody did this maj7 a few days MWBK1AQJYXu-00001-00000317-00000614 ago had an epic battle with Davy 504 and MWBK1AQJYXu-00002-00000615-00000899 I had to admit I can't stock the bass so MWBK1AQJYXu-00003-00000900-00001064 here I am MWBK1AQJYXu-00004-00001065-00001244 day one of these experience I'm gonna MWBK1AQJYXu-00005-00001245-00001415 learn how to stop the bass I would MWBK1AQJYXu-00006-00001416-00001577 probably still suck at the end of OTT MWBK1AQJYXu-00007-00001578-00001735 I'll give it my best shot MWBK1AQJYXu-00008-00001736-00001955 Davy Phi before uploading a track to jam MWBK1AQJYXu-00009-00001955-00002165 with him I'm gonna try to practice and MWBK1AQJYXu-00010-00002166-00002375 then at the end of the practice to jump MWBK1AQJYXu-00011-00002376-00002525 with him to see if there is an MWBK1AQJYXu-00012-00002526-00002720 improvement so let's get these things MWBK1AQJYXu-00013-00002721-00002930 started checking number one I've been MWBK1AQJYXu-00014-00002931-00003191 practicing for roughly 15 minutes on MWBK1AQJYXu-00015-00003192-00003365 this exercise that I found online that MWBK1AQJYXu-00016-00003365-00003767 goes something like Tom slap pong index MWBK1AQJYXu-00017-00003768-00004247 finger my hands are a little bit cold MWBK1AQJYXu-00018-00004248-00005061 but I'm getting the hang of it MWBK1AQJYXu-00019-00005062-00005300 checking number two I've been going on MWBK1AQJYXu-00020-00005301-00005633 for full 45 45 I've been going on for 45 MWBK1AQJYXu-00021-00005634-00005888 minutes I am getting the hang of this MWBK1AQJYXu-00022-00005889-00006195 pattern here MWBK1AQJYXu-00023-00006196-00006428 I've been going on for roughly an hour MWBK1AQJYXu-00024-00006429-00006646 and I'm starting to have a problem with MWBK1AQJYXu-00025-00006647-00007467 my index finger I am growing a blister MWBK1AQJYXu-00026-00007468-00007751 one hour and 20 minutes in and my MWBK1AQJYXu-00027-00007752-00008242 blister is getting worse and worse I am MWBK1AQJYXu-00028-00008243-00008449 starting to add notes to the whole thing MWBK1AQJYXu-00029-00008450-00009089 something like I think I'm gonna give it MWBK1AQJYXu-00030-00009090-00009362 a name if you have any suggestions for a MWBK1AQJYXu-00031-00009363-00009608 name for this thing well please write it MWBK1AQJYXu-00032-00009609-00009683 in the comments MWBK1AQJYXu-00033-00009684-00009848 before leaving it's time for my first MWBK1AQJYXu-00034-00009849-00010139 jam we take five or four I've got here MWBK1AQJYXu-00035-00010140-00010388 the video you know what let's jam MWBK1AQJYXu-00036-00010389-00010575 together now MWBK1AQJYXu-00037-00010576-00011277 [Music] MWBK1AQJYXu-00038-00011278-00013880 [Music] MWBK1AQJYXu-00039-00013881-00014333 [Music] MWBK1AQJYXu-00040-00014334-00014772 today so tomorrow maybe it would be MWBK1AQJYXu-00041-00014772-00014961 better stay tuned if you wanna know if I MWBK1AQJYXu-00042-00014962-00015135 will be able to actually learn how to MWBK1AQJYXu-00043-00015136-00015333 slap debase see you tomorrow MWBK1AQJYXu-00044-00015334-00015497 bye bye bye major seven MWBK1AQJYXu-00045-00015499-00016496 [Music] MWBK1AQJYXu-00046-00016497-00017085 [Music] MWBK1AQJYXu-00047-00017086-00017394 [Music] MX_aRxguLL4-00000-00000162-00001529 foreign MX_aRxguLL4-00001-00001530-00002375 [Music] MX_aRxguLL4-00002-00002376-00003474 guys MX_aRxguLL4-00003-00003475-00003847 [Music] MX_aRxguLL4-00004-00003847-00004036 thank you MX_aRxguLL4-00005-00004037-00005122 okay MX_aRxguLL4-00006-00005123-00005225 yeah MX_aRxguLL4-00007-00005226-00006202 let's go now soon MX_aRxguLL4-00008-00006203-00006395 as your promises rain but promise MX_aRxguLL4-00009-00006396-00006781 promise Way Beyond that MX_aRxguLL4-00010-00006781-00007031 stands are packed here people have done MX_aRxguLL4-00011-00007031-00007175 everything they can MX_aRxguLL4-00012-00007176-00008141 oh MX_aRxguLL4-00013-00008142-00008345 yeah MX_aRxguLL4-00014-00008346-00008705 okay sorry MX_aRxguLL4-00015-00008706-00009009 okay MX_aRxguLL4-00016-00009010-00009505 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00017-00009506-00009869 he's pulled off a fine save well what MX_aRxguLL4-00018-00009870-00010228 can I say truly wonderful goalkeeping MX_aRxguLL4-00019-00010229-00010385 played it short MX_aRxguLL4-00020-00010386-00010774 and it's Davis MX_aRxguLL4-00021-00010775-00010987 a whistle's gone MX_aRxguLL4-00022-00010988-00011327 the referee has given a free kick just MX_aRxguLL4-00023-00011328-00011496 outside the box MX_aRxguLL4-00024-00011497-00011777 well that looks like a final warning MX_aRxguLL4-00025-00011778-00011981 still no card MX_aRxguLL4-00026-00011982-00012448 foreign MX_aRxguLL4-00027-00012449-00013449 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00028-00013450-00013968 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00029-00013969-00014597 [Music] MX_aRxguLL4-00030-00014597-00014685 Sanchez MX_aRxguLL4-00031-00014686-00015108 [Music] MX_aRxguLL4-00032-00015109-00015653 yes Cristiano Ronaldo rashford MX_aRxguLL4-00033-00015654-00016075 uh MX_aRxguLL4-00034-00016076-00016399 more than decent attempt Peter MX_aRxguLL4-00035-00016400-00016691 [Music] MX_aRxguLL4-00036-00016692-00016829 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00037-00016830-00017099 Sanchez tries to get it Forward quickly MX_aRxguLL4-00038-00017100-00017515 oh great ball how's it going MX_aRxguLL4-00039-00017516-00017879 big relief just needed better contact oh MX_aRxguLL4-00040-00017880-00018053 look I don't want to sound too MX_aRxguLL4-00041-00018054-00018275 dismissive but from here that looks the MX_aRxguLL4-00042-00018276-00018785 harder thing to do MX_aRxguLL4-00043-00018786-00019013 and it's paid forward MX_aRxguLL4-00044-00019014-00019980 Manchester United MX_aRxguLL4-00045-00019981-00020285 sends that a long way MX_aRxguLL4-00046-00020286-00020494 just to point out Peter that the MX_aRxguLL4-00047-00020495-00020680 fullbacks are quite high and what are MX_aRxguLL4-00048-00020681-00020880 they trying MX_aRxguLL4-00049-00020881-00021250 oh that's a terrific save for the keeper MX_aRxguLL4-00050-00021251-00021479 the keeper really dug out his defense MX_aRxguLL4-00051-00021480-00021827 then a magnificent effort MX_aRxguLL4-00052-00021828-00021961 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00053-00021962-00022313 see some progress down the left oh MX_aRxguLL4-00054-00022314-00022724 Sanchez MX_aRxguLL4-00055-00022725-00023425 [Music] MX_aRxguLL4-00056-00023426-00023794 and here's Cristiano Ronaldo Ronaldo MX_aRxguLL4-00057-00023795-00024948 spreads it towards the left MX_aRxguLL4-00058-00024949-00025583 [Music] MX_aRxguLL4-00059-00025584-00026231 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00060-00026232-00026645 rashford MX_aRxguLL4-00061-00026645-00026993 man MX_aRxguLL4-00062-00026994-00027335 oh Manchester United MX_aRxguLL4-00063-00027336-00027737 yeah Manchester United Take the Lead MX_aRxguLL4-00064-00027738-00027977 Manchester United are looking stronger MX_aRxguLL4-00065-00027977-00028187 winning the ball in Midfield is one MX_aRxguLL4-00066-00028188-00028367 thing but it's their clever use of MX_aRxguLL4-00067-00028368-00028523 counter-attacking that's the real MX_aRxguLL4-00068-00028524-00028870 highlight MX_aRxguLL4-00069-00028872-00029405 s MX_aRxguLL4-00070-00029406-00030033 emblem MX_aRxguLL4-00071-00030033-00030545 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00072-00030545-00030862 Ford it goes but more than happy to take MX_aRxguLL4-00073-00030863-00031174 the muscular approach I certainly caught MX_aRxguLL4-00074-00031175-00031840 him there's a free kick MX_aRxguLL4-00075-00031841-00032389 ing MX_aRxguLL4-00076-00032389-00032602 now it's k MX_aRxguLL4-00077-00032603-00032947 foreign MX_aRxguLL4-00078-00032948-00035031 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00079-00035032-00036631 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00080-00036632-00037540 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00081-00037541-00038156 foreign MX_aRxguLL4-00082-00038157-00039374 [Music] MX_aRxguLL4-00083-00039375-00040259 [Music] MX_aRxguLL4-00084-00040260-00040427 for a moment you felt that was going MX_aRxguLL4-00085-00040428-00041599 somewhere but they'll have to go again MX_aRxguLL4-00086-00041600-00041951 and they've got their lead back MX_aRxguLL4-00087-00041952-00042173 yeah looking back at that that's how you MX_aRxguLL4-00088-00042174-00042485 play a quick and decisive and ruthless MX_aRxguLL4-00089-00042486-00042623 with the finish I thought it was a MX_aRxguLL4-00090-00042624-00042983 stunning stunning Breakaway MX_aRxguLL4-00091-00042984-00043295 well this is what we've been waiting for MX_aRxguLL4-00092-00043296-00044299 yeah I'm waiting for oh MX_aRxguLL4-00093-00044300-00044635 Alex tell us MX_aRxguLL4-00094-00044636-00044855 what's up MX_aRxguLL4-00095-00044856-00045049 I did that MX_aRxguLL4-00096-00045050-00045677 they really should have been made to pay MX_aRxguLL4-00097-00045678-00045943 um MX_aRxguLL4-00098-00045944-00046229 he needs special attention to stop MX_aRxguLL4-00099-00046230-00046757 making a run okay MX_aRxguLL4-00100-00046758-00047261 gets his head to it oh great save real MX_aRxguLL4-00101-00047262-00047555 fast well as Tesco YouTube The Keeper MX_aRxguLL4-00102-00047556-00047842 you've just received an A plus MX_aRxguLL4-00103-00047843-00048312 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00104-00048313-00048557 oh that's a foul free Kick's been given MX_aRxguLL4-00105-00048558-00049037 well that's it MX_aRxguLL4-00106-00049038-00050912 foreign MX_aRxguLL4-00107-00050913-00051069 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00108-00051070-00052426 [Music] MX_aRxguLL4-00109-00052427-00052654 son young men MX_aRxguLL4-00110-00052655-00052835 song young Min MX_aRxguLL4-00111-00052836-00053200 Ford it goes back to the keeper and try MX_aRxguLL4-00112-00053201-00053447 something new MX_aRxguLL4-00113-00053448-00054011 Sanchez MX_aRxguLL4-00114-00054012-00054203 it's rashford MX_aRxguLL4-00115-00054204-00054503 Bruno Fernandez a scorer already in the MX_aRxguLL4-00116-00054504-00055069 game MX_aRxguLL4-00117-00055070-00055319 and here's rashford MX_aRxguLL4-00118-00055320-00056063 and he's there to cut it out MX_aRxguLL4-00119-00056064-00056242 picks it away MX_aRxguLL4-00120-00056244-00056360 yeah MX_aRxguLL4-00121-00056361-00056509 [Music] MX_aRxguLL4-00122-00056510-00056815 I'm threatening to pull clear MX_aRxguLL4-00123-00056816-00057192 well you know MX_aRxguLL4-00124-00057194-00057703 because it took them seconds MX_aRxguLL4-00125-00057704-00058007 yeah the whistle goes for half time well MX_aRxguLL4-00126-00058008-00058216 Peter I think the score is a fair MX_aRxguLL4-00127-00058217-00058444 reflection of what we've witnessed so MX_aRxguLL4-00128-00058445-00058897 far and all right that being this is MX_aRxguLL4-00129-00058898-00059159 if those players I think can carry on MX_aRxguLL4-00130-00059160-00059513 where they left off they should impose MX_aRxguLL4-00131-00059514-00059800 themselves even more and probably only MX_aRxguLL4-00132-00059801-00060107 one result coming here but Manchester MX_aRxguLL4-00133-00060108-00060371 United or broadly in charge but the MX_aRxguLL4-00134-00060372-00060592 contest is still alive at three goals to MX_aRxguLL4-00135-00060594-00060730 one MX_aRxguLL4-00136-00060732-00060929 oh so we're already into the second MX_aRxguLL4-00137-00060929-00061073 period MX_aRxguLL4-00138-00061074-00061294 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00139-00061295-00061516 what's in there that's just an example MX_aRxguLL4-00140-00061517-00061738 of over committing and they're fortunate MX_aRxguLL4-00141-00061739-00062230 for the quality of the integration MX_aRxguLL4-00142-00062232-00062372 [Music] MX_aRxguLL4-00143-00062373-00062616 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00144-00062617-00062879 maybe the target really should have been MX_aRxguLL4-00145-00062879-00062911 hit MX_aRxguLL4-00146-00062912-00063071 [Music] MX_aRxguLL4-00147-00063072-00063394 I'm sorry MX_aRxguLL4-00148-00063395-00063809 Pogba MX_aRxguLL4-00149-00063810-00063953 the song MX_aRxguLL4-00150-00063954-00064163 he's got through MX_aRxguLL4-00151-00064164-00064444 Cristiano Ronaldo MX_aRxguLL4-00152-00064445-00064638 he'll hit it MX_aRxguLL4-00153-00064639-00064949 oh what a wonderful stop yeah yeah MX_aRxguLL4-00154-00064950-00065219 that's more than that a difficult moment MX_aRxguLL4-00155-00065220-00065579 he simply had to deal with MX_aRxguLL4-00156-00065580-00066856 Los also MX_aRxguLL4-00157-00066857-00066977 speared forward MX_aRxguLL4-00158-00066978-00067223 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00159-00067224-00067679 dashing forward at PACE MX_aRxguLL4-00160-00067680-00067913 and it's rashford MX_aRxguLL4-00161-00067914-00068206 Manchester United one emphatic it's MX_aRxguLL4-00162-00068207-00068423 Cristiano oh MX_aRxguLL4-00163-00068424-00068779 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00164-00068780-00069061 surely that settles it MX_aRxguLL4-00165-00069062-00069317 the keeper deserves some sympathy there MX_aRxguLL4-00166-00069318-00070578 he may not have seen that until too late MX_aRxguLL4-00167-00070579-00071447 [Music] MX_aRxguLL4-00168-00071448-00072185 so now the difference is three MX_aRxguLL4-00169-00072186-00072252 Davis MX_aRxguLL4-00170-00072253-00072473 [Music] MX_aRxguLL4-00171-00072474-00072694 it's always a good time to register and MX_aRxguLL4-00172-00072695-00072919 lay down MX_aRxguLL4-00173-00072920-00073175 they clearly had exactly that in mind MX_aRxguLL4-00174-00073176-00073387 and have gone about their business with MX_aRxguLL4-00175-00073388-00073706 absolutely the right commitment MX_aRxguLL4-00176-00073707-00073987 [Music] MX_aRxguLL4-00177-00073988-00074237 oh rashford MX_aRxguLL4-00178-00074238-00074556 and here's Cristiano Ronaldo MX_aRxguLL4-00179-00074557-00074788 Paul needed to be better there it's a MX_aRxguLL4-00180-00074789-00075241 wasted chance MX_aRxguLL4-00181-00075242-00075902 that is away MX_aRxguLL4-00182-00075903-00076200 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00183-00076201-00076456 it's a red card MX_aRxguLL4-00184-00076457-00076619 the players are making their point but MX_aRxguLL4-00185-00076620-00077005 the ref clearly isn't interested MX_aRxguLL4-00186-00077006-00077287 Manchester United MX_aRxguLL4-00187-00077288-00077525 well I think the alternative was to MX_aRxguLL4-00188-00077526-00077711 stand there and do nothing while he MX_aRxguLL4-00189-00077712-00077891 tried to score and obviously he's not MX_aRxguLL4-00190-00077892-00078838 going to allow that Peter is he MX_aRxguLL4-00191-00078839-00080437 Yankee MX_aRxguLL4-00192-00080438-00081060 [Music] MX_aRxguLL4-00193-00081061-00081394 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00194-00081395-00081791 men to men Jonah MX_aRxguLL4-00195-00081792-00082253 but MX_aRxguLL4-00196-00082254-00082450 thank you MX_aRxguLL4-00197-00082451-00082817 Bruno Fernandez goes looking but come MX_aRxguLL4-00198-00082818-00083441 back to the keeper MX_aRxguLL4-00199-00083442-00083615 Los also MX_aRxguLL4-00200-00083616-00083774 Sanchez MX_aRxguLL4-00201-00083775-00084875 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00202-00084876-00085085 Fred looking to penetrate opposition MX_aRxguLL4-00203-00085086-00085229 lines MX_aRxguLL4-00204-00085230-00085999 Bruno from Bruno Fernandez MX_aRxguLL4-00205-00086000-00086525 and far away no catching them now MX_aRxguLL4-00206-00086526-00086855 that really is quite fabulous all his MX_aRxguLL4-00207-00086856-00087065 own doing well none of us were exactly MX_aRxguLL4-00208-00087066-00087275 sure how that was gonna end up then but MX_aRxguLL4-00209-00087276-00087485 I'm delighted to see such a happy ending MX_aRxguLL4-00210-00087486-00087671 after such a splendid dribbling run I MX_aRxguLL4-00211-00087672-00087856 mean he really did fill that defense MX_aRxguLL4-00212-00087857-00088018 into wondering what he was going to do MX_aRxguLL4-00213-00088019-00088097 next MX_aRxguLL4-00214-00088098-00088271 but MX_aRxguLL4-00215-00088272-00089026 Manchester United totally rampant here MX_aRxguLL4-00216-00089027-00089206 oh no that's not I've only wanted MX_aRxguLL4-00217-00089207-00089344 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00218-00089345-00089599 but MX_aRxguLL4-00219-00089600-00090311 he's still away MX_aRxguLL4-00220-00090312-00090493 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00221-00090494-00090881 and I don't think he knew either MX_aRxguLL4-00222-00090882-00091043 there's going to be another change here MX_aRxguLL4-00223-00091044-00091276 yeah it's pretty obvious as to who was MX_aRxguLL4-00224-00091277-00091475 going to be taken off his energy levels MX_aRxguLL4-00225-00091476-00091750 began to to Sag and he was never going MX_aRxguLL4-00226-00091751-00092003 to last until the final whistle MX_aRxguLL4-00227-00092004-00092279 Bruno Fernandez is effectively being MX_aRxguLL4-00228-00092280-00092482 marked out of the game here yeah and the MX_aRxguLL4-00229-00092483-00092656 fact that he's registered Peter simply MX_aRxguLL4-00230-00092657-00092926 encourages more attention of um of a MX_aRxguLL4-00231-00092927-00093137 closer nature MX_aRxguLL4-00232-00093138-00093629 always broken through MX_aRxguLL4-00233-00093630-00093994 that intervention was very necessary MX_aRxguLL4-00234-00093995-00094168 well it seems as if he's just had a MX_aRxguLL4-00235-00094169-00094379 momentary lapse and and slipped into MX_aRxguLL4-00236-00094380-00094709 television because he had good options MX_aRxguLL4-00237-00094710-00094882 around him and he failed to get his head MX_aRxguLL4-00238-00094883-00095141 up MX_aRxguLL4-00239-00095142-00095356 rashford MX_aRxguLL4-00240-00095357-00095722 Bruno Fernandez MX_aRxguLL4-00241-00095723-00095941 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00242-00095942-00096103 oh MX_aRxguLL4-00243-00096104-00096425 my God MX_aRxguLL4-00244-00096426-00096688 and it was a chance but meet and drink MX_aRxguLL4-00245-00096689-00096935 for the keeper Sancho certainly caught MX_aRxguLL4-00246-00096936-00097144 it well enough but that was never really MX_aRxguLL4-00247-00097145-00097337 going to trouble the keeper MX_aRxguLL4-00248-00097338-00097569 rashford MX_aRxguLL4-00249-00097570-00097890 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00250-00097891-00098362 [Music] MX_aRxguLL4-00251-00098363-00099053 Fernandez MX_aRxguLL4-00252-00099054-00099331 Cecilio plays it forward MX_aRxguLL4-00253-00099332-00099575 they might they just couldn't get into MX_aRxguLL4-00254-00099576-00099856 an attacking area MX_aRxguLL4-00255-00099857-00100200 and it's Cristiano Ronaldo MX_aRxguLL4-00256-00100201-00100600 Sancho drops one in MX_aRxguLL4-00257-00100601-00100712 um MX_aRxguLL4-00258-00100713-00100730 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00259-00100731-00100915 [Music] MX_aRxguLL4-00260-00100916-00101129 straight back MX_aRxguLL4-00261-00101130-00101518 oh and that is that they're just United MX_aRxguLL4-00262-00101519-00101782 enjoy their perfect day for their MX_aRxguLL4-00263-00101783-00102067 victims it is entirely imperfect MX_aRxguLL4-00264-00102068-00102329 comprehensive winners of a one-sided MX_aRxguLL4-00265-00102330-00102575 contest any reflections of what you've MX_aRxguLL4-00266-00102576-00102851 seen Jim yeah they had a gameplay which MX_aRxguLL4-00267-00102852-00103051 was they were hammering away MX_aRxguLL4-00268-00103052-00103336 and it paid off for me they were MX_aRxguLL4-00269-00103338-00103942 persistent MX_aRxguLL4-00270-00103943-00104470 foreign MX_aRxguLL4-00272-00108359-00108749 Humanity MX_aRxguLL4-00273-00108750-00109066 well good day to you okay a great day MX_aRxguLL4-00274-00109067-00109393 here MX_aRxguLL4-00275-00109394-00109669 should be a really good game of football MX_aRxguLL4-00276-00109670-00109943 the stands are packed here people have MX_aRxguLL4-00277-00109944-00110213 done everything they can to get here to MX_aRxguLL4-00278-00110214-00110473 get here MX_aRxguLL4-00279-00110474-00110734 but I think most of the traffic issues MX_aRxguLL4-00280-00110735-00110958 have been settled MX_aRxguLL4-00281-00110959-00111294 most people MX_aRxguLL4-00282-00111295-00112201 [Music] MX_aRxguLL4-00283-00112202-00112504 certainly this is a very very impressive MX_aRxguLL4-00284-00112505-00113027 venue quite a sight to behold MX_aRxguLL4-00285-00113028-00113243 just joining us we are already on the MX_aRxguLL4-00286-00113244-00113454 way MX_aRxguLL4-00287-00113455-00113728 Bruno Fernandez MX_aRxguLL4-00288-00113729-00113910 fell there MX_aRxguLL4-00289-00113911-00114075 and the shots MX_aRxguLL4-00290-00114076-00114619 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00291-00114620-00114893 absolutely sparkly his reflexes were MX_aRxguLL4-00292-00114894-00115939 Ultra Sharp rashford MX_aRxguLL4-00293-00115940-00116116 the way MX_aRxguLL4-00294-00116117-00116302 Bruno Fernandez MX_aRxguLL4-00295-00116303-00116555 Christian MX_aRxguLL4-00296-00116556-00117036 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00297-00117038-00117377 and what a contribution from the main MX_aRxguLL4-00298-00117378-00117581 man I had a feeling he might do MX_aRxguLL4-00299-00117582-00117863 something given his reputation right to MX_aRxguLL4-00300-00117864-00118102 do it like that absolutely brilliant I MX_aRxguLL4-00301-00118103-00118254 wasn't expecting that MX_aRxguLL4-00302-00118255-00118523 Laura even some of the imposing fans are MX_aRxguLL4-00303-00118524-00118666 clapping there you just have to MX_aRxguLL4-00304-00118667-00118895 appreciate it you know Peter from the MX_aRxguLL4-00305-00118896-00119100 moment MX_aRxguLL4-00306-00119101-00119220 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00307-00119221-00119465 [Music] MX_aRxguLL4-00308-00119466-00119729 foreign MX_aRxguLL4-00309-00119730-00121185 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00310-00121186-00121229 [Music] MX_aRxguLL4-00311-00121230-00123336 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00312-00123338-00123751 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00313-00123752-00124693 a lot of people MX_aRxguLL4-00314-00124694-00125082 that's too far for anyone yeah yeah MX_aRxguLL4-00315-00125083-00125765 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00316-00125766-00126247 oh what's up MX_aRxguLL4-00317-00126248-00127128 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00318-00127129-00127890 explosive Victory MX_aRxguLL4-00319-00127891-00128263 goal lead and things should be good MX_aRxguLL4-00320-00128264-00128554 well it's been an absolutely fabulous MX_aRxguLL4-00321-00128555-00128728 spell for them and they're starting to MX_aRxguLL4-00322-00128729-00128981 look Unstoppable there could be more on MX_aRxguLL4-00323-00128982-00129208 the way MX_aRxguLL4-00324-00129209-00129978 hey MX_aRxguLL4-00325-00129979-00130421 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00326-00130422-00130595 starting to fall here it has been MX_aRxguLL4-00327-00130596-00131315 looking that way for a little while yeah MX_aRxguLL4-00328-00131316-00132175 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00329-00132176-00132487 but good challenge he just stood firm MX_aRxguLL4-00330-00132488-00132754 Manchester United don't want to steer MX_aRxguLL4-00331-00132755-00132940 clear of any disciplinary issues this MX_aRxguLL4-00332-00132941-00133211 time around suspensions to start turning MX_aRxguLL4-00333-00133212-00133619 up again MX_aRxguLL4-00334-00133620-00133831 out to the right MX_aRxguLL4-00335-00133832-00134213 and it's rash for something MX_aRxguLL4-00336-00134214-00134387 I'm trying to make MX_aRxguLL4-00337-00134388-00134671 it big big MX_aRxguLL4-00338-00134672-00134902 distance on it MX_aRxguLL4-00339-00134903-00135154 [Music] MX_aRxguLL4-00340-00135155-00135781 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00341-00135782-00137190 and already they're looking to run away MX_aRxguLL4-00342-00137191-00138095 this is becoming a stroll MX_aRxguLL4-00343-00138096-00138827 good idea just poorly executed MX_aRxguLL4-00344-00138828-00140531 United MX_aRxguLL4-00345-00140532-00140861 Ronaldo goes looking MX_aRxguLL4-00346-00140862-00141037 oh MX_aRxguLL4-00347-00141038-00141457 tries to get it Forward quickly MX_aRxguLL4-00348-00141458-00141719 it is good to see someone running at the MX_aRxguLL4-00349-00141720-00142128 defense like that MX_aRxguLL4-00350-00142129-00142843 and here's the chance to counter MX_aRxguLL4-00351-00142844-00143497 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00352-00143498-00143851 Manchester United are really tense MX_aRxguLL4-00353-00143852-00144071 we're talking seconds for an MX_aRxguLL4-00354-00144072-00144919 interception to the fact that I met him MX_aRxguLL4-00355-00144920-00145199 who has the momentum here now the only MX_aRxguLL4-00356-00145200-00145537 doubt is how many is coming MX_aRxguLL4-00357-00145538-00145945 forward quickly MX_aRxguLL4-00358-00145946-00146166 just brushed off the ball there MX_aRxguLL4-00359-00146167-00146495 whistle's gone that's uh foul MX_aRxguLL4-00360-00146496-00147673 oh MX_aRxguLL4-00361-00147674-00148054 [Music] MX_aRxguLL4-00362-00148055-00148633 look up MX_aRxguLL4-00363-00148634-00149051 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00364-00149052-00150469 gets it back yes MX_aRxguLL4-00365-00150470-00150607 [Music] MX_aRxguLL4-00366-00150608-00150913 for the first 45 minutes MX_aRxguLL4-00367-00150914-00151261 barrage that looks set to continue MX_aRxguLL4-00368-00151262-00151564 Manchester United I've been more or less MX_aRxguLL4-00369-00151565-00151811 perfect I would say they're managers all MX_aRxguLL4-00370-00151812-00152195 smiles and he's got every reason to be MX_aRxguLL4-00371-00152196-00152717 United pretty much out of sight here yes MX_aRxguLL4-00372-00152718-00153126 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00373-00153127-00153478 as it gets MX_aRxguLL4-00374-00153479-00153719 well I wasn't expecting to go this big MX_aRxguLL4-00375-00153720-00154276 Peter but they have been superb MX_aRxguLL4-00376-00154277-00155459 whatever MX_aRxguLL4-00377-00155460-00156028 foreign MX_aRxguLL4-00378-00156029-00156384 yes MX_aRxguLL4-00379-00156385-00156954 [Music] MX_aRxguLL4-00380-00156955-00157895 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00381-00157896-00158416 and here's Cristiano Ronaldo wow MX_aRxguLL4-00382-00158417-00158711 you always have to measure if that was MX_aRxguLL4-00383-00158712-00158926 the first touch to die for and it set MX_aRxguLL4-00384-00158927-00159214 him up MX_aRxguLL4-00385-00159215-00159545 place it out to the wing but MX_aRxguLL4-00386-00159546-00159745 it's gone out of plate MX_aRxguLL4-00387-00159746-00160099 yeah going through MX_aRxguLL4-00388-00160100-00160475 it's loose who's getting there oh one MX_aRxguLL4-00389-00160476-00160709 basaka very Furman standing his ground MX_aRxguLL4-00390-00160710-00161278 there it is a tough full contact contest MX_aRxguLL4-00391-00161279-00161916 Ed MX_aRxguLL4-00392-00161917-00162233 and it's paid forward questions were MX_aRxguLL4-00393-00162234-00162539 asked but he's given the answers Bruno MX_aRxguLL4-00394-00162540-00162893 Fernandez spreads it towards the left oh MX_aRxguLL4-00395-00162894-00163097 it's come loose MX_aRxguLL4-00396-00163098-00163416 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00397-00163417-00163823 ah hey one straight back MX_aRxguLL4-00398-00163824-00164166 it's rashford MX_aRxguLL4-00399-00164167-00164379 and it's paid forward MX_aRxguLL4-00400-00164380-00164751 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00401-00164752-00164921 [Music] MX_aRxguLL4-00402-00164922-00165119 needless to say he was expecting a MX_aRxguLL4-00403-00165120-00165389 better ball than that MX_aRxguLL4-00404-00165390-00165563 great strength too strong for his MX_aRxguLL4-00405-00165564-00165845 opponent Sancho looks to get on the end MX_aRxguLL4-00406-00165846-00166199 of this MX_aRxguLL4-00407-00166200-00166583 rashford MX_aRxguLL4-00408-00166584-00167154 um MX_aRxguLL4-00409-00167155-00167464 control that with such ease and really MX_aRxguLL4-00410-00167465-00168175 ought to have followed it up with a dog MX_aRxguLL4-00411-00168176-00168620 it's Cristiano Ronaldo yeah MX_aRxguLL4-00412-00168621-00169319 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00413-00169320-00169489 all right MX_aRxguLL4-00414-00169490-00169852 lays it out to the flank oh no oh no MX_aRxguLL4-00415-00169853-00170195 it's quite a run and he's not done yet MX_aRxguLL4-00416-00170196-00170638 foreign MX_aRxguLL4-00417-00170639-00171212 [Music] MX_aRxguLL4-00418-00171213-00172045 [Laughter] MX_aRxguLL4-00419-00172046-00172301 quality deserted and when they really MX_aRxguLL4-00420-00172302-00172614 needed it yeah MX_aRxguLL4-00421-00172615-00172895 the defense is wary about opposition MX_aRxguLL4-00422-00172896-00173093 pace so they're just not getting too MX_aRxguLL4-00423-00173094-00173290 tight yeah they know that if they they MX_aRxguLL4-00424-00173291-00173507 step up their their keeper could get a MX_aRxguLL4-00425-00173508-00173802 whole lot busier MX_aRxguLL4-00426-00173803-00174071 no no way through that MX_aRxguLL4-00427-00174072-00174293 sit forward MX_aRxguLL4-00428-00174294-00174616 now shortly MX_aRxguLL4-00429-00174617-00174838 yes MX_aRxguLL4-00430-00174839-00176611 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00431-00176612-00176837 you just think that's really good MX_aRxguLL4-00432-00176838-00176999 management introducing one of his MX_aRxguLL4-00433-00177000-00177173 younger players when the pressure's tilt MX_aRxguLL4-00434-00177174-00177388 me off just allowing him some valuable MX_aRxguLL4-00435-00177389-00177722 easy on field experience MX_aRxguLL4-00436-00177723-00178393 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00437-00178394-00178685 Manchester United really are almost MX_aRxguLL4-00438-00178686-00178883 trying to pass the ball through a brick MX_aRxguLL4-00439-00178884-00179099 wall at the moment you can see the sense MX_aRxguLL4-00440-00179100-00179556 of anxiety has has now shifted yes MX_aRxguLL4-00441-00179557-00180325 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00442-00180326-00180593 to win it back MX_aRxguLL4-00443-00180594-00180966 and it's Cristiano Ronaldo MX_aRxguLL4-00444-00180967-00181469 beautifully no MX_aRxguLL4-00445-00181470-00181741 restaurant MX_aRxguLL4-00446-00181742-00181961 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00447-00181962-00182696 is it out of Harm's Way MX_aRxguLL4-00448-00182697-00183078 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00449-00183079-00183231 yes MX_aRxguLL4-00450-00183232-00183717 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00451-00183718-00184093 [Music] MX_aRxguLL4-00452-00184094-00184581 four opponents left chasing Shadows MX_aRxguLL4-00453-00184582-00184652 [Music] MX_aRxguLL4-00454-00184653-00186349 [Applause] MX_aRxguLL4-00455-00186350-00186996 see you in the next game of bye-bye MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00000-00000000-00000371 morning folks I'm here with Nicole Penny MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00001-00000372-00000668 o2 one of our longest term members and a MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00002-00000669-00000947 very successful salon owner from the MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00003-00000948-00001193 little country town of sale in Victoria MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00004-00001194-00001312 thanks for joining me MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00005-00001313-00001834 Nicole you've been in business there for MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00006-00001835-00001913 a long time MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00007-00001914-00002217 tell us the story how did you start I MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00008-00002218-00002729 started with a little salon behind a MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00009-00002730-00002912 hairdressers which is true treatment MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00010-00002913-00003415 rooms and I didn't really I was going MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00011-00003417-00003631 through a bit of a could I say midlife MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00012-00003632-00004015 crisis at 21 not sure but anyway and I MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00013-00004017-00004147 didn't know what I wanted to do with my MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00014-00004148-00004376 life sauce at all let's open up a MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00015-00004377-00004808 business crazy and that's how I started MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00016-00004809-00005006 I just had two rooms I worked on my own MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00017-00005007-00005533 I put a little ad in a newspaper to do I MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00018-00005534-00005870 think it was like $30 pedicures or MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00019-00005871-00006086 something like that and I got bombarded MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00020-00006087-00006478 with people and I hired my first staff MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00021-00006479-00006864 member like four or five months in and MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00022-00006865-00007244 yeah two and a half years later I MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00023-00007245-00007598 thought what am I gonna do do I go MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00024-00007598-00007876 overseas and backpack no that's not me MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00025-00007877-00008345 so I opened up a big Asylum we have 11 MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00026-00008346-00008606 treatment rooms now we just had our 10th MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00027-00008607-00008738 birthday this year MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00028-00008739-00009302 and yeah so you started from scratch MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00029-00009303-00009719 with next to nothing and you're now MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00030-00009720-00009878 turning you're the biggest you're by far MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00031-00009879-00010192 the biggest in town aren't you yes so MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00032-00010193-00010406 how many how many residents live in your MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00033-00010407-00011051 little town in sail alone sort of the MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00034-00011052-00011345 main town for little towns around us so MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00035-00011346-00011588 we have a lot of surrounding farming MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00036-00011589-00012274 community and so you were 21 when you MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00037-00012275-00012724 started and yeah really had no idea MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00038-00012725-00013294 about business yeah no idea so what MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00039-00013296-00013663 the learning curve you're learning MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00040-00013665-00014402 everyday I I joined worldwide I think MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00041-00014403-00014836 I've been in business for a year and I MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00042-00014837-00015065 realized I needed to do something MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00043-00015066-00015230 different when I was getting these MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00044-00015231-00015541 things called tax bills funny things MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00045-00015543-00016202 those aren't I yeah yeah got no money MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00046-00016203-00016372 because I'm 21 and I've been having MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00047-00016374-00016961 really good weekends yeah I joined MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00048-00016962-00017357 worldwide and they you guys have taught MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00049-00017358-00017852 me so much and yeah and then I got an MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00050-00017853-00018275 accountant and and then yeah realized MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00051-00018276-00018833 you have to be a great artist so you MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00052-00018834-00019145 joined our membership program and you MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00053-00019146-00019415 got all of our marketing materials what MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00054-00019416-00019918 happened after that I went you're like MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00055-00019919-00020389 seminar day things and I've never even MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00056-00020390-00020663 even you know realize that those things MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00057-00020664-00021044 happen and I there was a few different MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00058-00021045-00021200 speakers and I signed up with you guys MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00059-00021201-00021977 then after that I I had to put on MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00060-00021978-00022175 another staff member because we just put MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00061-00022176-00022474 we did things like a newsletter and MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00062-00022475-00023183 birthday vouchers and I I think I did a MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00063-00023184-00023471 Hollywood woman remember those things MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00064-00023472-00023666 that one about one of our famous MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00065-00023667-00024083 promotions yeah yeah and I I pounded the MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00066-00024084-00024680 pavement with that and and then I yeah I MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00067-00024681-00024848 had to put another staff member on and MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00068-00024849-00025061 we battled through in the small salon MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00069-00025062-00025442 with three of us just working around the MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00070-00025443-00025793 clock to sort of fit people in and work MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00071-00025794-00026245 around each other and and then yeah we MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00072-00026247-00026495 realized I really I went through a yeah MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00073-00026495-00026672 I went through a stage where I wasn't MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00074-00026673-00026995 sure whether to keep banging business or MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00075-00026997-00027425 go traveling and be young so I decided MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00076-00027426-00027757 that I was going to stay in business and MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00077-00027758-00028124 yeah what do you love about being in MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00078-00028125-00028508 business I love the challenge MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00079-00028508-00028754 I love being challenged every day MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00080-00028755-00028919 there's never a dull moment in my life MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00081-00028920-00029516 as you know yeah I love the challenge of MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00082-00029517-00029882 it because it's not easy ever for our MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00083-00029883-00030114 what do you hate about being in business MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00084-00030116-00030704 staff well as they say you know business MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00085-00030705-00030926 would be so much easier if weren't MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00086-00030927-00031151 having to employ staff and have MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00087-00031152-00031586 customers this is so true MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00088-00031587-00031808 so you build the business and you build MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00089-00031808-00031927 the business and you built the business MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00090-00031929-00032267 using a lot of the marketing tools and MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00091-00032268-00032758 templates and systems we we teach then MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00092-00032760-00033149 you got married and had a couple of MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00093-00033150-00033349 little kids MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00094-00033350-00033964 and how did that impact on the business MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00095-00033965-00034256 with my first child I didn't really take MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00096-00034257-00034406 a lot of time off because I thought that MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00097-00034407-00034765 splash was going to fall to pieces MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00098-00034766-00035267 however it didn't with my second child I MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00099-00035268-00035765 hired a manager and I pretty much I MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00100-00035766-00035993 nearly had a year off I work you know MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00101-00035994-00036223 random days I didn't have set days and MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00102-00036224-00036542 oh my god this Allen did not fall to MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00103-00036543-00036875 pieces and it was awesome and it would MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00104-00036876-00037234 I've found a new appreciation I guess MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00105-00037235-00037517 for my business and for my staff and for MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00106-00037518-00038371 my life really and yeah it's when you MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00107-00038372-00038758 instead of in the business you are a lot MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00108-00038759-00039322 more can I say successful I don't know MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00109-00039323-00039587 it's a it's a different there's a MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00110-00039588-00039765 difference MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00111-00039766-00039984 what have you found the difference being MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00112-00039985-00040349 off the tools compared with on the tools MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00113-00040350-00040599 you can see what's happening more in MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00114-00040600-00040842 your business when you're looking from MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00115-00040843-00041085 afar rather than working in it all the MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00116-00041086-00041226 time MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00117-00041227-00041448 you can keep track of what's happening MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00118-00041449-00041652 with your team and you can work on MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00119-00041653-00041832 things so that your team are constantly MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00120-00041833-00042054 busy whereas if you're constantly busy MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00121-00042055-00042366 with clients you don't have a lot of MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00122-00042367-00042558 time to do anything else which is what MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00123-00042559-00042837 I'm currently doing so I'm back in the 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MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00258-00084784-00084981 pretty much all the problems that you'll MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00259-00084982-00085262 have you know Harold beauty salon issue MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00260-00085263-00085782 and it it has has made my life a lot MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00261-00085783-00085977 easier I guess because it's all done for MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00262-00085978-00086460 you and it's proven to work well have MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00263-00086461-00086912 made the mistakes for people yeah yeah MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00264-00086913-00087183 bear in mind that there's nothing new in MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00265-00087184-00087432 the world any challenge that you've had MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00266-00087433-00087780 you have has been solved by somebody MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00267-00087781-00088131 somewhere yes and why try to reinvent MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00268-00088132-00088374 the wheel that's right so what you've MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00269-00088375-00088563 done is not trying to reinvent well you MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00270-00088564-00088797 were the wheel you've just copied what's 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relations person doesn't love to see my MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00298-00096590-00096892 face in the salon and I always will stop MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00299-00096893-00097159 and have a chat whatever I think they MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00300-00097160-00097336 appreciate that someone don't have being MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00301-00097337-00097552 in the salon but I could be sitting MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00302-00097553-00097768 there on my laptop you know doing things MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00303-00097769-00098200 it's not always you know painting nails MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00304-00098201-00098470 and waxing eyebrows so I do do a lot of MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00305-00098471-00098665 stuff in this element clients love to MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00306-00098666-00099382 see you is there any challenge that MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00307-00099383-00099718 you've come across in business that MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00308-00099719-00100143 can't be solved as a marketing issue MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00309-00100144-00100732 apart from getting staff I mean any just MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00310-00100733-00100906 about any challenge in 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it your MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00380-00122530-00123045 own yeah and I don't like to come second MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00381-00123046-00123393 I like to be number one and you got to MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00382-00123394-00123615 work at it and you are number one in MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00383-00123616-00124041 town aren't you yeah yeah and others are MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00384-00124042-00124226 always trying to knock you ass MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00385-00124227-00124527 absolutely and so to stay number one MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00386-00124528-00124821 you've got to keep pouring in the MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00387-00124822-00125031 marketing you've got to keep pouring in MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00388-00125032-00125258 online and offline I mean you do both MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00389-00125259-00126408 don't you yeah but I've got these girls MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00390-00126408-00126930 that can fling it out on Instagram do a MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00391-00126931-00127133 snapchat in three seconds before I've MXIL_Rqr1Zo-00392-00127134-00127431 even I can be app so that's their job so 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slopes raiser in Greek means MbttFVxxdOA-00006-00002540-00002830 root in modern times its name in Greek MbttFVxxdOA-00007-00002831-00003166 was usually risen to Rozonda its Latin MbttFVxxdOA-00008-00003167-00003409 forms arises and rise iam the latter of MbttFVxxdOA-00009-00003410-00003604 which is used in the Catholic Church's MbttFVxxdOA-00010-00003604-00003799 list of titular seas as the name of MbttFVxxdOA-00011-00003800-00003988 bishopric of the town which was once MbttFVxxdOA-00012-00003989-00004177 part of the late Roman province of MbttFVxxdOA-00013-00004178-00004516 Pontus Paulo maniacae s' the name rises MbttFVxxdOA-00014-00004517-00004747 spelled in Ottoman Turkish and rise in MbttFVxxdOA-00015-00004748-00005056 Georgian the name in Laz is Rossini MbttFVxxdOA-00016-00005057-00005579 risen MbttFVxxdOA-00017-00005580-00006300 topic history the first written mention MbttFVxxdOA-00018-00006301-00006536 of rise is made by Aryan in a work named MbttFVxxdOA-00019-00006537-00006783 para plus of the uke scene see as a city MbttFVxxdOA-00020-00006784-00006951 founded at the mouth of the homonymous MbttFVxxdOA-00021-00006952-00007220 River the ancient and Byzantine ratios MbttFVxxdOA-00022-00007222-00007791 Potamus dated at 130 to 131 ad and MbttFVxxdOA-00023-00007792-00007980 written as a letter to Roman Emperor MbttFVxxdOA-00024-00007981-00008232 Hadrian the work records how its author MbttFVxxdOA-00025-00008233-00008474 the governor of Cappadocia made an MbttFVxxdOA-00026-00008475-00008696 inspection tour of the eastern Black Sea MbttFVxxdOA-00027-00008697-00008865 territories that were part of his MbttFVxxdOA-00028-00008866-00009120 jurisdiction first visiting the Roman MbttFVxxdOA-00029-00009121-00009345 Empire's eastern Anatolian frontier MbttFVxxdOA-00030-00009346-00009534 Garrison's before pushing on to the MbttFVxxdOA-00031-00009535-00009720 Black Sea coast in the traps on MbttFVxxdOA-00032-00009721-00009996 trebizond region the city of rise formed MbttFVxxdOA-00033-00009997-00010205 part of historic Georgian province of MbttFVxxdOA-00034-00010206-00010641 chana T Georgian tonight from 1547 chana MbttFVxxdOA-00035-00010642-00010841 T province was incorporated by the MbttFVxxdOA-00036-00010842-00011073 Ottoman Empire and became a part of the MbttFVxxdOA-00037-00011074-00011405 Sanka coffie Stan the city was claimed MbttFVxxdOA-00038-00011406-00011627 by the short-lived Democratic Republic MbttFVxxdOA-00039-00011628-00012056 of Georgia between 1918 and 1920 on the MbttFVxxdOA-00040-00012057-00012428 basis of the 1921 Treaty of cars Soviet MbttFVxxdOA-00041-00012429-00012663 Russia granted rise to Turkey just as MbttFVxxdOA-00042-00012664-00012858 the other territories of art van are MbttFVxxdOA-00043-00012859-00013627 darhan and ho / Georgian MbttFVxxdOA-00044-00013628-00014353 topic geography the city is built around MbttFVxxdOA-00045-00014354-00014596 a small Bay on the Black Sea coast on a MbttFVxxdOA-00046-00014597-00014794 narrow strip of flat land between the MbttFVxxdOA-00047-00014794-00015112 sea in the mountains behind the coastal MbttFVxxdOA-00048-00015113-00015334 strip is being expanded with landfill MbttFVxxdOA-00049-00015335-00015511 and the city is growing up the steep MbttFVxxdOA-00050-00015512-00015805 hillsides away from the coast rise MbttFVxxdOA-00051-00015806-00016075 enjoys a mild extremely wet climate MbttFVxxdOA-00052-00016076-00016279 vulnerable to storms coming off the MbttFVxxdOA-00053-00016280-00016462 Black Sea and therefore the surrounding MbttFVxxdOA-00054-00016463-00016696 countryside is rich with vegetation and MbttFVxxdOA-00055-00016697-00016867 is attracting more and more visitors MbttFVxxdOA-00056-00016868-00016977 every year MbttFVxxdOA-00057-00016978-00017272 rise is a center for processing and MbttFVxxdOA-00058-00017273-00017491 shipping rice tea the tea grown in the MbttFVxxdOA-00059-00017492-00017812 surrounding area tea was introduced in MbttFVxxdOA-00060-00017813-00018076 the region in the 1940s and 1950s MbttFVxxdOA-00061-00018077-00018337 changing the destiny of the region which MbttFVxxdOA-00062-00018338-00018658 was desperately poor until then the city MbttFVxxdOA-00063-00018659-00018904 has a tea Research Institute founded in MbttFVxxdOA-00064-00018905-00019207 1958 and tea gardens of the main site in MbttFVxxdOA-00065-00019208-00019534 the town's panoramic view tea and kiwi MbttFVxxdOA-00066-00019535-00019765 fruit plants are even planted in gardens MbttFVxxdOA-00067-00019766-00020083 around the town the secondary activity MbttFVxxdOA-00068-00020084-00020365 is fishing rise is linked by road with MbttFVxxdOA-00069-00020366-00020547 traps on 41 miles MbttFVxxdOA-00071-00025217-00025764 topic climate MbttFVxxdOA-00072-00025766-00026050 Rhys has a humid subtropical climate MbttFVxxdOA-00073-00026051-00026379 köppen climate classification CFA MbttFVxxdOA-00074-00026380-00026725 snowfall can be heavy once it snows the MbttFVxxdOA-00075-00026726-00027007 climate turns continental DFB on the MbttFVxxdOA-00076-00027008-00027304 hillsides and subarctic DFC on mountain MbttFVxxdOA-00077-00027305-00027568 slopes and Yalies a term used in Turkish MbttFVxxdOA-00078-00027569-00027913 for Highlands and Highland plateaus rise MbttFVxxdOA-00079-00027914-00028111 in the eastern part of the Black Sea MbttFVxxdOA-00080-00028112-00028314 coast where it is situated has the MbttFVxxdOA-00081-00028316-00028513 highest precipitation in Western Asia MbttFVxxdOA-00082-00028514-00028756 with an annual precipitation averaging MbttFVxxdOA-00083-00028757-00029122 around 2,500 millimetres 100 in with MbttFVxxdOA-00084-00029123-00029329 heavy rainfall year round and a maximum MbttFVxxdOA-00085-00029330-00029586 in late autumn October to December the MbttFVxxdOA-00086-00029587-00029872 Black Sea coast receives the greatest MbttFVxxdOA-00087-00029873-00030108 amount of precipitation in Turkey and is MbttFVxxdOA-00088-00030110-00030322 the only region of Turkey that receives MbttFVxxdOA-00089-00030323-00030550 high precipitation throughout the year MbttFVxxdOA-00090-00030551-00030823 the water temperature as in the whole MbttFVxxdOA-00091-00030824-00031066 Turkish Black Sea coast is always cool MbttFVxxdOA-00092-00031067-00031318 fluctuating between 8 and 20 degrees MbttFVxxdOA-00093-00031319-00031642 Celsius 46 and 68 degrees Fahrenheit MbttFVxxdOA-00094-00031643-00032262 throughout the year MbttFVxxdOA-00095-00032263-00032820 topic economy MbttFVxxdOA-00096-00032821-00033151 historically rise grew oranges however MbttFVxxdOA-00097-00033152-00033400 weather destroyed the crops in the early MbttFVxxdOA-00098-00033401-00033666 20th century and the industry declined MbttFVxxdOA-00099-00033667-00033997 the area also produced small amounts of MbttFVxxdOA-00100-00033998-00034234 manganese the economic structure of rise MbttFVxxdOA-00101-00034235-00034486 is based primarily around its geographic MbttFVxxdOA-00102-00034487-00034834 location rise is a very mountainous city MbttFVxxdOA-00103-00034835-00035092 making industrial development difficult MbttFVxxdOA-00104-00035093-00035374 and impractical given the lack of air MbttFVxxdOA-00105-00035375-00035593 and rail transit most Goods have to MbttFVxxdOA-00106-00035594-00035797 travel by truck or ship which makes MbttFVxxdOA-00107-00035798-00036139 exporting and importing difficult Rises MbttFVxxdOA-00108-00036140-00036385 primary trading partner is traps on the MbttFVxxdOA-00109-00036386-00036610 most developed city of Northeast Black MbttFVxxdOA-00110-00036611-00036931 Sea region Rises main exports are MbttFVxxdOA-00111-00036932-00037171 agriculturally based tea and kiwi fruit MbttFVxxdOA-00112-00037172-00037921 are among its most popular commodities MbttFVxxdOA-00113-00037922-00038490 topic education MbttFVxxdOA-00114-00038491-00038877 Rize university was founded in 2006 and MbttFVxxdOA-00115-00038878-00039063 its name was changed to recep tayyip MbttFVxxdOA-00116-00039064-00039357 erdogan university by the university MbttFVxxdOA-00117-00039358-00039984 Senate's approval MbttFVxxdOA-00118-00039985-00040514 topic culture MbttFVxxdOA-00119-00040515-00040823 Rhys Castle a partly ruined medieval MbttFVxxdOA-00120-00040824-00041572 castle southwest of the city centre MbttFVxxdOA-00121-00041573-00042128 topic sports MbttFVxxdOA-00122-00042129-00042425 sports venues in rise arise Ataturk MbttFVxxdOA-00123-00042426-00042683 Stadium yeni rise sir her study and rise MbttFVxxdOA-00124-00042684-00042932 sports complex consisting of rice Sports MbttFVxxdOA-00125-00042933-00043268 Hall and rise indoor swimming pool the MbttFVxxdOA-00126-00043269-00043529 football team of K choruses Paul play in MbttFVxxdOA-00127-00043530-00043745 the Super League pisar sport football MbttFVxxdOA-00128-00043746-00044504 team compete in the tff third league MbttFVxxdOA-00129-00044505-00044945 topic history MbttFVxxdOA-00130-00044946-00045420 you MbttFVxxdOA-00131-00045421-00046038 topic notable natives MbttFVxxdOA-00132-00046039-00046347 kazeem Ava's Olympic medalist and world MbttFVxxdOA-00133-00046348-00046529 champion in wrestling MbttFVxxdOA-00134-00046530-00046944 Zafer burial football player nikos MbttFVxxdOA-00135-00046945-00047133 Cappetta nudists journalist and MbttFVxxdOA-00136-00047134-00047451 newspaper publisher ibrahim Kollek MbttFVxxdOA-00137-00047452-00047732 member of istanbul provincial council MbttFVxxdOA-00138-00047733-00048060 recep tayyip erdogan politician former MbttFVxxdOA-00139-00048061-00048273 prime minister and current president of MbttFVxxdOA-00140-00048274-00048573 turkey Tamil Cottle aeronautical MbttFVxxdOA-00141-00048574-00049008 engineer and CEO of Turkish Airlines Tim MbttFVxxdOA-00142-00049009-00049338 Jay mater Archie born 1935 convicted MbttFVxxdOA-00143-00049339-00049653 former government minister Mehmet Akif MbttFVxxdOA-00144-00049654-00049890 Purim Olympic medalist in greco-roman MbttFVxxdOA-00145-00049891-00050442 wrestling pokel Tipton politician Ismail MbttFVxxdOA-00146-00050443-00050676 turret singer of folk music of the Black MbttFVxxdOA-00147-00050677-00051186 Sea region yo-yo Ma's wrestler maze at MbttFVxxdOA-00148-00051187-00051411 Yilmaz politician and former prime MbttFVxxdOA-00149-00051412-00051636 minister kekua Reza's poor the local MbttFVxxdOA-00150-00051637-00051840 football team play in the turkish super MbttFVxxdOA-00151-00051841-00052079 league and a local heroes occasionally MbttFVxxdOA-00152-00052080-00052272 capable of defeating even the biggest MbttFVxxdOA-00153-00052273-00052580 and ball teams they play in green and MbttFVxxdOA-00154-00052582-00052794 blue reflecting the blue of the sea and MbttFVxxdOA-00155-00052795-00052947 the green of the tea growing on the MbttFVxxdOA-00156-00052948-00053352 hillsides others who have never lived in MbttFVxxdOA-00157-00053353-00053648 rise but come from rice families include MbttFVxxdOA-00158-00053649-00053976 Suzanne Axew singer and songwriter born MbttFVxxdOA-00159-00053977-00054179 in Izmir but originally from Pazza MbttFVxxdOA-00160-00054180-00054913 rise tarkin pop singer MbttFVxxdOA-00161-00054914-00055480 topic population MbttFVxxdOA-00162-00055482-00055855 equals equals notes McdJgsWznsE-00000-00000112-00000768 [Music] McdJgsWznsE-00001-00000769-00001041 food and beverages from China have been McdJgsWznsE-00002-00001042-00001248 part of global daily life for over a McdJgsWznsE-00003-00001249-00001498 thousand years from soy thoughts and McdJgsWznsE-00004-00001499-00001818 noodle to tea and one that many of the McdJgsWznsE-00005-00001819-00002052 food and drinks we consume today have McdJgsWznsE-00006-00002053-00002343 their origins in China the history of McdJgsWznsE-00007-00002344-00002539 food and drink in China is a fascinating McdJgsWznsE-00008-00002540-00002806 story that is told through objects in McdJgsWznsE-00009-00002807-00003108 the exhibition ancient vessel a visual McdJgsWznsE-00010-00003109-00003325 and material history of food and drink McdJgsWznsE-00011-00003326-00003645 in China she majored in partnership with McdJgsWznsE-00012-00003646-00003838 the museum in East Asian art and math McdJgsWznsE-00013-00003839-00004102 who provided the beautiful objects for McdJgsWznsE-00014-00004103-00004393 the exhibition ancient vessels opened at McdJgsWznsE-00015-00004394-00004609 the Rastas brunei gallery in January McdJgsWznsE-00016-00004610-00004924 2020 exhibits state funds were later McdJgsWznsE-00017-00004925-00005259 Neolithic period in China circa 2000 BC McdJgsWznsE-00018-00005260-00005599 to the 19th century and are made from a McdJgsWznsE-00019-00005600-00005868 wide range of material including jade McdJgsWznsE-00020-00005869-00006343 Koren lacquer bran and glad the south McdJgsWznsE-00021-00006344-00006606 exhibition presents the objects in 11 McdJgsWznsE-00022-00006608-00006856 different but related themed affection McdJgsWznsE-00023-00006856-00007126 through these new interpretations of the McdJgsWznsE-00024-00007127-00007405 object viewers can explore historical McdJgsWznsE-00025-00007406-00007627 Chinese material culture from a fresh McdJgsWznsE-00026-00007628-00007939 perspective and gain an insight into the McdJgsWznsE-00027-00007940-00008155 material world of food and drink in McdJgsWznsE-00028-00008156-00008560 China before the 20th century the first McdJgsWznsE-00029-00008561-00008806 section raising livestock agriculture McdJgsWznsE-00030-00008807-00009037 and cooking includes some of the McdJgsWznsE-00031-00009038-00009312 earliest objects in the exhibition McdJgsWznsE-00032-00009313-00009523 archaeological evidence shows that McdJgsWznsE-00033-00009524-00009745 people in China domesticated animals McdJgsWznsE-00034-00009746-00010053 from the Neolithic period onward by McdJgsWznsE-00035-00010054-00010216 about 4000 BCE McdJgsWznsE-00036-00010217-00010452 domestication seemed to be widespread McdJgsWznsE-00037-00010453-00010749 among the common animals kept were pig McdJgsWznsE-00038-00010750-00010966 which provided a ready source of meat McdJgsWznsE-00039-00010967-00011274 and water buffalo that pulled clouds in McdJgsWznsE-00040-00011275-00011533 this case for example you can see a McdJgsWznsE-00041-00011534-00011809 ceramic model of a pig sty showing a pig McdJgsWznsE-00042-00011810-00011953 and piglet McdJgsWznsE-00043-00011954-00012212 the two important early crops in China McdJgsWznsE-00044-00012213-00012481 rice and millet were more suitable for McdJgsWznsE-00045-00012482-00012745 boiling in contrast to wheat and barley McdJgsWznsE-00046-00012746-00013055 which could be ground and baked as a McdJgsWznsE-00047-00013056-00013274 consequence early Chinese cooking McdJgsWznsE-00048-00013275-00013607 vessels such as the ding and Li were McdJgsWznsE-00049-00013608-00013841 designed for boiling they have a wide McdJgsWznsE-00050-00013841-00014102 body to hold water and food and three McdJgsWznsE-00051-00014103-00014450 legs to stand over fire a number of McdJgsWznsE-00052-00014451-00014636 cooking vessels have been found in - McdJgsWznsE-00053-00014637-00014930 such as those shown here in the section McdJgsWznsE-00054-00014931-00015138 on leading spirits McdJgsWznsE-00055-00015140-00015355 archaeological evidence indicates that McdJgsWznsE-00056-00015356-00015590 people in ancient China believed that McdJgsWznsE-00057-00015591-00015752 the Living should replicate the McdJgsWznsE-00058-00015753-00016005 lifestyle of the dead in the afterlife McdJgsWznsE-00059-00016006-00016313 including catering for their gustatory McdJgsWznsE-00060-00016313-00016685 pleasure some elite tombs are decorated McdJgsWznsE-00061-00016686-00016946 with murals of banqueting scenes some McdJgsWznsE-00062-00016947-00017194 contain a kitchen and food storage room McdJgsWznsE-00063-00017195-00017438 accompanied with cooking utensils and McdJgsWznsE-00064-00017439-00017744 figurines of chef the inner area jars McdJgsWznsE-00065-00017745-00018028 often with fanciful shapes such as this McdJgsWznsE-00066-00018029-00018227 large skeleton one in the form of a McdJgsWznsE-00067-00018228-00018536 granary was used to store rice and other McdJgsWznsE-00068-00018537-00018775 grains to ensure the spirits would not McdJgsWznsE-00069-00018776-00019069 be hungry wine vessel such as this McdJgsWznsE-00070-00019070-00019330 ceramic example with painted decoration McdJgsWznsE-00071-00019331-00019574 used for by the storing and serving McdJgsWznsE-00072-00019575-00019991 alcohol were also buried into eating the McdJgsWznsE-00073-00019992-00020209 spirit was one way to help maintain the McdJgsWznsE-00074-00020210-00020556 bond between the deceased and the living McdJgsWznsE-00075-00020557-00020894 whether for the living or dead vessel is McdJgsWznsE-00076-00020895-00021083 used for eating and drinking in China McdJgsWznsE-00077-00021084-00021392 are usually decorated in this section McdJgsWznsE-00078-00021393-00021665 eating and drinking design we can see McdJgsWznsE-00079-00021666-00021862 that often the decoration relates to McdJgsWznsE-00080-00021863-00022078 their function or to the setting in McdJgsWznsE-00081-00022079-00022325 which they are to be used a white McdJgsWznsE-00082-00022326-00022537 porcelain bowl in this case shows a McdJgsWznsE-00083-00022538-00022862 picnic scene another example the McdJgsWznsE-00084-00022863-00023065 decoration on food and drink vessels McdJgsWznsE-00085-00023066-00023342 relates to the visual art and is taken McdJgsWznsE-00086-00023343-00023558 from narrative illustration that should McdJgsWznsE-00087-00023559-00023803 be seen on a large porcelain jar with McdJgsWznsE-00088-00023804-00024122 polychrome decoration the banquet scene McdJgsWznsE-00089-00024123-00024337 on this jar is typical the lavish ones McdJgsWznsE-00090-00024338-00024542 appearing in illustrated books in the McdJgsWznsE-00091-00024543-00024788 16th and 17th century McdJgsWznsE-00092-00024789-00025034 the banquet here may be a court banquet McdJgsWznsE-00093-00025035-00025274 for a festival or commemorative occasion McdJgsWznsE-00094-00025275-00025508 as indicated by the senior official McdJgsWznsE-00095-00025509-00025756 seated at the table and the musical McdJgsWznsE-00096-00025757-00026063 entertainment the card laughter tray in McdJgsWznsE-00097-00026064-00026300 this case depicts a similar event taking McdJgsWznsE-00098-00026301-00026564 place in an elegant storied building in McdJgsWznsE-00099-00026564-00026885 a watery landscape scenes like this were McdJgsWznsE-00100-00026886-00027110 often reproduced in popular prints and McdJgsWznsE-00101-00027111-00027401 pictorial album during the late Ming and McdJgsWznsE-00102-00027402-00027695 Qing dynasties in other examples McdJgsWznsE-00103-00027695-00027938 symbolic food items formed the main McdJgsWznsE-00104-00027939-00028199 decorative motif such as the peach on McdJgsWznsE-00105-00028200-00028469 the small ceramic dish imitating lacquer McdJgsWznsE-00106-00028470-00028682 which is a traditional symbol of McdJgsWznsE-00107-00028683-00029060 longevity associated with Taoism here it McdJgsWznsE-00108-00029061-00029249 is accompanied by the Chinese character McdJgsWznsE-00109-00029250-00029636 for long life shown at the next section McdJgsWznsE-00110-00029637-00029894 which explores rituals and politics McdJgsWznsE-00111-00029895-00030197 demonstrates many bronze vessels cast in McdJgsWznsE-00112-00030198-00030488 the Shang and Joe Dynasty that is from McdJgsWznsE-00113-00030489-00030998 about 1500 BC to 221 BC were used in McdJgsWznsE-00114-00030999-00031223 rituals for offering food and wine to McdJgsWznsE-00115-00031224-00031469 ancestors from whom ancient Chinese McdJgsWznsE-00116-00031470-00031694 people obtained help and direction in McdJgsWznsE-00117-00031695-00031744 life McdJgsWznsE-00118-00031745-00032014 large numbers of various vessel types McdJgsWznsE-00119-00032016-00032231 suggest that many different foods and McdJgsWznsE-00120-00032232-00032504 wines were available through a system of McdJgsWznsE-00121-00032505-00032702 etiquette the vessel is used to feed McdJgsWznsE-00122-00032702-00032933 ritual feasts came to play an important McdJgsWznsE-00123-00032934-00033113 role in governing relation and McdJgsWznsE-00124-00033114-00033398 reinforcing hierarchies in early Chinese McdJgsWznsE-00125-00033399-00033686 society the political symbolism of these McdJgsWznsE-00126-00033687-00033902 food vessel particularly that of the McdJgsWznsE-00127-00033903-00034115 littered bronze ding shown in its case McdJgsWznsE-00128-00034116-00034430 is still important today this is McdJgsWznsE-00129-00034431-00034589 demonstrated by the bronze ding McdJgsWznsE-00130-00034590-00034727 commissioned by the Chinese government McdJgsWznsE-00131-00034728-00035084 in 2010 that is now on permanent display McdJgsWznsE-00132-00035085-00035290 at the Great Hall of the people of McdJgsWznsE-00133-00035291-00035582 Beijing Chinese rulers also McdJgsWznsE-00134-00035583-00035801 traditionally made sacrificial offering McdJgsWznsE-00135-00035802-00036077 into the Sun on the spring equinox which McdJgsWznsE-00136-00036078-00036374 since the Ming Dynasty from the 14 to McdJgsWznsE-00137-00036375-00036668 the 17th century required red offering McdJgsWznsE-00138-00036669-00036881 vessels like the porcelain stem cup McdJgsWznsE-00139-00036882-00037037 shown here McdJgsWznsE-00140-00037038-00037260 Bethel's are an integral part of McdJgsWznsE-00141-00037261-00037496 religious practice in China as the McdJgsWznsE-00142-00037497-00037683 object in this section on religion McdJgsWznsE-00143-00037684-00037992 reveal but the three main belief systems McdJgsWznsE-00144-00037993-00038310 prevalent in China with ism Taoism and McdJgsWznsE-00145-00038311-00038570 Confucianism it is Buddhism that McdJgsWznsE-00146-00038571-00038827 requires vessels for many of its rituals McdJgsWznsE-00147-00038828-00039155 food was offered on trays to deities and McdJgsWznsE-00148-00039156-00039449 in begging bowls to monks the small McdJgsWznsE-00149-00039450-00039743 sculptures in this case show a monk with McdJgsWznsE-00150-00039744-00040029 a begging bowl in addition to figures McdJgsWznsE-00151-00040030-00040277 Buddhist imagery appears on a number of McdJgsWznsE-00152-00040278-00040565 vessels not all of which were used in McdJgsWznsE-00153-00040566-00040886 religious context on the lacus dem cap McdJgsWznsE-00154-00040887-00041096 in this case you can see the popular McdJgsWznsE-00155-00041097-00041387 motif of the eight Buddhist emblem which McdJgsWznsE-00156-00041388-00041604 originated in early Buddhist virtual McdJgsWznsE-00157-00041605-00041883 culture in South Asia and then became McdJgsWznsE-00158-00041884-00042045 part of the decorative repertoire in McdJgsWznsE-00159-00042046-00042380 China during the Tang Dynasty from 618 McdJgsWznsE-00160-00042381-00042740 to 906 other belief systems are McdJgsWznsE-00161-00042741-00042954 represented by their symbolism such as McdJgsWznsE-00162-00042955-00043170 the red pomegranate painted on the white McdJgsWznsE-00163-00043171-00043421 porcelain stem Bowl which has many seeds McdJgsWznsE-00164-00043422-00043692 and is associated with the Confucian McdJgsWznsE-00165-00043693-00044012 wish for many son the bronze offerings McdJgsWznsE-00166-00044013-00044258 down below this has a 28 character McdJgsWznsE-00167-00044259-00044499 inscription on its foot which notes it McdJgsWznsE-00168-00044500-00044861 was made in 1485 for use in a Confucian McdJgsWznsE-00169-00044862-00045249 temple the next section on imperial McdJgsWznsE-00170-00045250-00045515 dining presents tableware made for the McdJgsWznsE-00171-00045516-00045795 Chinese Court during the Ming and Qing McdJgsWznsE-00172-00045796-00046151 dynasties from the 14th century to the McdJgsWznsE-00173-00046152-00046430 very early 20th century the scale of McdJgsWznsE-00174-00046431-00046617 infrastructure needed to provide food McdJgsWznsE-00175-00046618-00046829 for the imperial court was in men's McdJgsWznsE-00176-00046830-00047057 there were different kitchens and McdJgsWznsE-00177-00047058-00047235 offices responsible for the supply of McdJgsWznsE-00178-00047236-00047507 ingredients the preparation of meals and McdJgsWznsE-00179-00047508-00047745 the maintenance of dinner services and McdJgsWznsE-00180-00047746-00048074 utensils the use of food vessels which McdJgsWznsE-00181-00048075-00048395 strictly regulated and hierarchical for McdJgsWznsE-00182-00048396-00048636 example in this case we can see plates McdJgsWznsE-00183-00048637-00048885 covered with yellow glades both on the McdJgsWznsE-00184-00048886-00049196 interior and exterior that were reserved McdJgsWznsE-00185-00049197-00049505 for the Emperor and the Empress we can McdJgsWznsE-00186-00049506-00049704 also see plates decorated with green McdJgsWznsE-00187-00049705-00049943 dragons on a yellow ground that were McdJgsWznsE-00188-00049944-00050230 used by lower ranking concubines McdJgsWznsE-00189-00050231-00050415 more informal McdJgsWznsE-00190-00050416-00050646 is represented in the next section which McdJgsWznsE-00191-00050647-00050874 explores snacks and light meals in McdJgsWznsE-00192-00050875-00051165 pre-modern China there was no dessert a McdJgsWznsE-00193-00051166-00051369 sweet course that comes at the end of a McdJgsWznsE-00194-00051370-00051645 meal sweet and savory snacks could be McdJgsWznsE-00195-00051646-00051904 served alongside main dishes or consumed McdJgsWznsE-00196-00051904-00052162 outside a proper meal at any time of the McdJgsWznsE-00197-00052163-00052500 day compartmented boxes in plate such as McdJgsWznsE-00198-00052501-00052753 the one shown in this case we used to McdJgsWznsE-00199-00052754-00052990 present snacks or serve light meals as McdJgsWznsE-00200-00052991-00053181 they ensure that a variety of choices McdJgsWznsE-00201-00053182-00053488 could be offered at the same time they McdJgsWznsE-00202-00053489-00053750 were also practical when picnicking McdJgsWznsE-00203-00053751-00054040 during the lunar year when spring rolls McdJgsWznsE-00204-00054041-00054276 were traditionally eaten various McdJgsWznsE-00205-00054277-00054444 ingredients to be wrapped in thin McdJgsWznsE-00206-00054445-00054615 pancakes would be placed in different McdJgsWznsE-00207-00054616-00054925 compartments these types of boxes and McdJgsWznsE-00208-00054926-00055131 plates can also help make a selection of McdJgsWznsE-00209-00055132-00055326 snacks or a light meal with variants McdJgsWznsE-00210-00055327-00055684 element look visually coherent snacks McdJgsWznsE-00211-00055685-00055891 and light meals were consumed along with McdJgsWznsE-00212-00055891-00056140 hot beverages including tea which is the McdJgsWznsE-00213-00056141-00056400 focus of this section tea has been McdJgsWznsE-00214-00056401-00056625 produced and consumed in China since at McdJgsWznsE-00215-00056626-00056959 least the fifth century BC 2000 year old McdJgsWznsE-00216-00056960-00057154 tea leaves were recently discovered in McdJgsWznsE-00217-00057154-00057354 the tomb of an emperor who died in McdJgsWznsE-00218-00057355-00057699 one-for-one BC from the 8th century AD McdJgsWznsE-00219-00057700-00057975 tea drinking became much more widespread McdJgsWznsE-00220-00057976-00058234 after its promotion as both an aid to McdJgsWznsE-00221-00058235-00058530 meditation by Buddhist monks as well as McdJgsWznsE-00222-00058532-00058692 an antidote to the drunkenness McdJgsWznsE-00223-00058694-00059011 associated with wine the objects in this McdJgsWznsE-00224-00059012-00059248 case represent a range of vessels to use McdJgsWznsE-00225-00059249-00059479 in the consumption of tea we're serving McdJgsWznsE-00226-00059479-00059844 drinking and storage in China tea was McdJgsWznsE-00227-00059845-00060097 often sold along with tea vessels such McdJgsWznsE-00228-00060098-00060330 as the brownstone where bowls shown here McdJgsWznsE-00229-00060332-00060531 which were made in the tea producing McdJgsWznsE-00230-00060532-00060711 region of junk sheep robbing in McdJgsWznsE-00231-00060712-00061024 southeast China from the late Ming McdJgsWznsE-00232-00061025-00061279 Dynasty tea pots with short spouts and McdJgsWznsE-00233-00061279-00061500 tall handles were made in his unique McdJgsWznsE-00234-00061501-00061779 brown stoneware clay which is only found McdJgsWznsE-00235-00061780-00062070 in eating and jeongsu problem McdJgsWznsE-00236-00062071-00062279 these sangria is made with this clay McdJgsWznsE-00237-00062280-00062616 such as the teapot in this case became McdJgsWznsE-00238-00062616-00062736 highly sought-after McdJgsWznsE-00239-00062737-00062940 and are still admired today for their McdJgsWznsE-00240-00062941-00063176 ability to enhance the flavor of tea in McdJgsWznsE-00241-00063177-00063501 the Qin Dynasty the channel Emperor who McdJgsWznsE-00242-00063502-00063929 reigned from 1736 to 1795 noted that McdJgsWznsE-00243-00063930-00064134 jade bowls such as the example shown McdJgsWznsE-00244-00064135-00064367 here would used to serve butter tea McdJgsWznsE-00245-00064369-00064578 which is a completely different tea McdJgsWznsE-00246-00064579-00064925 tradition during celebratory ceremonies McdJgsWznsE-00247-00064926-00065286 in contrast to tea wine and alcoholic McdJgsWznsE-00248-00065287-00065487 drinks have an even longer history in McdJgsWznsE-00249-00065488-00065790 China in this section we learned that McdJgsWznsE-00250-00065791-00065973 the earliest evidence of wine production McdJgsWznsE-00251-00065974-00066243 in China exists from a Neolithic period McdJgsWznsE-00252-00066244-00066507 and was found in pottery jars dating to McdJgsWznsE-00253-00066508-00066656 7,000 BC McdJgsWznsE-00254-00066657-00066969 wine made from both grain and crepes was McdJgsWznsE-00255-00066970-00067191 used in both virtual and secular setting McdJgsWznsE-00256-00067192-00067482 and is recorded in numerous early texts McdJgsWznsE-00257-00067483-00067899 from the Shang period circa 1500 BCE to McdJgsWznsE-00258-00067900-00068235 circa 1046 onward wine vessels made of McdJgsWznsE-00259-00068236-00068484 cast bronze like the large jar in this McdJgsWznsE-00260-00068485-00068793 case were buried in elite tomb along McdJgsWznsE-00261-00068794-00069057 with similar vessels for food it is McdJgsWznsE-00262-00069058-00069294 during the next dynasty the Jo period McdJgsWznsE-00263-00069295-00069510 that the first test denouncing McdJgsWznsE-00264-00069511-00069804 drunkenness start to appear yet wine McdJgsWznsE-00265-00069805-00069993 continued to be an important drink in McdJgsWznsE-00266-00069994-00070218 China and vessels made in areas that McdJgsWznsE-00267-00070219-00070485 produce wine like the cream-colored McdJgsWznsE-00268-00070486-00070757 stemware bottle shown here were made McdJgsWznsE-00269-00070758-00071037 alongside wine and used in everyday life McdJgsWznsE-00270-00071038-00071334 and drinking establishment in the sung McdJgsWznsE-00271-00071335-00071787 period from 960 to 1279 AD wine was McdJgsWznsE-00272-00071788-00072048 drunk warm and served from corsola newer McdJgsWznsE-00273-00072049-00072315 and it was drunk from Cortland cups such McdJgsWznsE-00274-00072316-00072534 as this one which were passed around in McdJgsWznsE-00275-00072535-00072828 a stand wine cups were also made in McdJgsWznsE-00276-00072829-00073106 other materials in Chinese poetry McdJgsWznsE-00277-00073107-00073356 numerous references to wine can be found McdJgsWznsE-00278-00073357-00073631 often praising the drinking of wine from McdJgsWznsE-00279-00073632-00073866 cups made for precious material like McdJgsWznsE-00280-00073867-00074286 jade as can be seen here wine and tea McdJgsWznsE-00281-00074287-00074478 were not the only liquids consumed in McdJgsWznsE-00282-00074479-00074650 traditional China as McdJgsWznsE-00283-00074651-00074884 in this section on condiments and other McdJgsWznsE-00284-00074885-00075181 liquid in the Song Dynasty tax the McdJgsWznsE-00285-00075182-00075454 ejecta from the 12th century it was McdJgsWznsE-00286-00075455-00075726 stated that there were seven essential McdJgsWznsE-00287-00075727-00075985 things for every family namely firewood McdJgsWznsE-00288-00075986-00076431 rice oil salt soy sauce paste vinegar McdJgsWznsE-00289-00076432-00076747 and tea with the long history of soy McdJgsWznsE-00290-00076748-00076962 cultivation in China it is not McdJgsWznsE-00291-00076963-00077163 surprising that soy sauce known as McdJgsWznsE-00292-00077164-00077451 johnnyo in Chinese is first mentioned in McdJgsWznsE-00293-00077452-00077850 a Chinese text from a tomb dated 168 BC McdJgsWznsE-00294-00077851-00078087 which knows that it was prepared as a McdJgsWznsE-00295-00078088-00078373 paste and remains of this were found in McdJgsWznsE-00296-00078374-00078715 that same tomb as today soy sauce McdJgsWznsE-00297-00078716-00078888 traditionally were served from small McdJgsWznsE-00298-00078889-00079162 Ewers or pots like the turquoise example McdJgsWznsE-00299-00079163-00079419 in this case which were also used to McdJgsWznsE-00300-00079420-00079762 serve vinegar salt was another important McdJgsWznsE-00301-00079763-00079965 addition to cooking for seasoning and McdJgsWznsE-00302-00079966-00080230 fermentation and its cultivation made McdJgsWznsE-00303-00080231-00080605 many family very wealthy in the mid as McdJgsWznsE-00304-00080606-00080884 today it was served in small pots such McdJgsWznsE-00305-00080885-00081225 as the enamel one shown here the final McdJgsWznsE-00306-00081226-00081462 section of the exhibition foodstuffs and McdJgsWznsE-00307-00081463-00081709 medicine explorers medicinal foods in McdJgsWznsE-00308-00081710-00081940 China there is no essential difference McdJgsWznsE-00309-00081941-00082246 between foodstuffs and medicine it would McdJgsWznsE-00310-00082247-00082441 widely recognized that a balanced diet McdJgsWznsE-00311-00082442-00082624 had the ability to prevent disease McdJgsWznsE-00312-00082625-00082869 promote longevity and help treat McdJgsWznsE-00313-00082870-00083140 existing condition the famous physician McdJgsWznsE-00314-00083141-00083392 sun zoom al active in the seventh McdJgsWznsE-00315-00083393-00083662 century believed that the truly good McdJgsWznsE-00316-00083663-00083884 physician first treats the patient with McdJgsWznsE-00317-00083885-00084148 food only when food failed does he McdJgsWznsE-00318-00084149-00084478 resort to drugs rhinoceros horn such as McdJgsWznsE-00319-00084479-00084690 the carved Cup in this case for example McdJgsWznsE-00320-00084691-00084940 would lead to treat a variety of McdJgsWznsE-00321-00084941-00085204 ailments including fever rheumatism and McdJgsWznsE-00322-00085205-00085543 gout snuff with tobacco as the main McdJgsWznsE-00323-00085544-00085837 ingredient was used to expel cold sheer McdJgsWznsE-00324-00085838-00086125 dizziness and treat headaches storied McdJgsWznsE-00325-00086126-00086329 and exquisite small bottles like those McdJgsWznsE-00326-00086330-00086550 shown here tobacco was in fact McdJgsWznsE-00327-00086551-00086793 classified as a type of alcohol in the McdJgsWznsE-00328-00086794-00087067 Qin Dynasty because if a person consumed McdJgsWznsE-00329-00087068-00087322 too many pots of tobacco smoke he would McdJgsWznsE-00330-00087323-00087541 quote fall down drunk and it will take a McdJgsWznsE-00331-00087542-00087949 long time to revive him this brings us McdJgsWznsE-00332-00087950-00088048 to the end of the McdJgsWznsE-00333-00088049-00088261 submission it'sh stories like those McdJgsWznsE-00334-00088262-00088476 recounted in this exhibition that bring McdJgsWznsE-00335-00088477-00088756 museum objects to light and in the case McdJgsWznsE-00336-00088757-00089032 of ancient vessels we have reminded that McdJgsWznsE-00337-00089033-00089232 museum exhibits can play an important McdJgsWznsE-00338-00089233-00089494 role in recreating the material worlds McdJgsWznsE-00339-00089495-00089666 of our past McdJgsWznsE-00340-00089667-00090006 [Music] McdJgsWznsE-00341-00090007-00090213 you McB9pg72uoU-00000-00000007-00000284 the electric power industry covers the McB9pg72uoU-00001-00000285-00000530 generation transmission distribution and McB9pg72uoU-00002-00000531-00000709 sale of electric power to the general McB9pg72uoU-00003-00000710-00000947 public in industry the commercial McB9pg72uoU-00004-00000948-00001150 distribution of electric power started McB9pg72uoU-00005-00001151-00001397 in 1882 when electricity was produced McB9pg72uoU-00006-00001398-00001684 for electric lighting in the 1880s and McB9pg72uoU-00007-00001685-00001922 1890s growing economic and safety McB9pg72uoU-00008-00001923-00002114 concerns lead to the regulation of the McB9pg72uoU-00009-00002115-00002368 industry once an expensive novelty McB9pg72uoU-00010-00002369-00002509 limited to the most densely populated McB9pg72uoU-00011-00002510-00002789 areas reliable and economical electric McB9pg72uoU-00012-00002790-00002992 power has become an essential aspect for McB9pg72uoU-00013-00002993-00003160 normal operation of all elements of McB9pg72uoU-00014-00003161-00003443 developed economies by the middle of the McB9pg72uoU-00015-00003444-00003686 20th century electricity was seen as a McB9pg72uoU-00016-00003686-00003986 natural monopoly only efficient if a McB9pg72uoU-00017-00003986-00004172 restricted number of organizations McB9pg72uoU-00018-00004173-00004411 participated in the market in some areas McB9pg72uoU-00019-00004412-00004619 vertically integrated companies provide McB9pg72uoU-00020-00004620-00004847 all stages from generation to retail and McB9pg72uoU-00021-00004848-00005063 only governmental supervision regulated McB9pg72uoU-00022-00005064-00005266 the rate of return and cost structure McB9pg72uoU-00023-00005267-00005611 since the 1990s many regions have opened McB9pg72uoU-00024-00005612-00005786 up the generation and distribution of McB9pg72uoU-00025-00005787-00005945 electric power to provide a more McB9pg72uoU-00026-00005946-00006197 competitive electricity market while McB9pg72uoU-00027-00006198-00006356 such markets can be abusively McB9pg72uoU-00028-00006357-00006542 manipulated with consequent adverse McB9pg72uoU-00029-00006543-00006721 price and reliability impact to McB9pg72uoU-00030-00006722-00006889 consumers generally competitive McB9pg72uoU-00031-00006890-00007081 production of electrical energy leads to McB9pg72uoU-00032-00007083-00007264 worthwhile improvements in efficiency McB9pg72uoU-00033-00007265-00007495 however transmission and distribution McB9pg72uoU-00034-00007497-00007723 are harder problem since returns on McB9pg72uoU-00035-00007725-00008474 investment are not as easy to find topic McB9pg72uoU-00036-00008475-00009056 history although electricity had been McB9pg72uoU-00037-00009057-00009235 known to be produced as a result of the McB9pg72uoU-00038-00009236-00009439 chemical reactions that take place in an McB9pg72uoU-00039-00009440-00009664 electrolytic cell since Alessandro Volta McB9pg72uoU-00040-00009665-00009920 developed the voltaic pile in 1800 its McB9pg72uoU-00041-00009921-00010117 production by this means was and still McB9pg72uoU-00042-00010118-00010469 is expensive in 1831 michael faraday McB9pg72uoU-00043-00010470-00010663 devised a machine that generated McB9pg72uoU-00044-00010664-00010862 electricity from rotary motion but it McB9pg72uoU-00045-00010863-00011012 took almost 50 years for the technology McB9pg72uoU-00046-00011013-00011348 to reach a commercially viable stage in McB9pg72uoU-00047-00011349-00011671 1878 in the United States Thomas Edison McB9pg72uoU-00048-00011672-00011839 developed and sold a commercially viable McB9pg72uoU-00049-00011840-00012023 replacement for gas lighting and heating McB9pg72uoU-00050-00012024-00012194 using locally generated and distributed McB9pg72uoU-00051-00012195-00012542 direct current electricity the world's McB9pg72uoU-00052-00012543-00012742 first public electricity supply was McB9pg72uoU-00053-00012743-00012988 provided in late 1881 when the streets McB9pg72uoU-00054-00012989-00013151 of the Surrey town of God or me in the McB9pg72uoU-00055-00013152-00013372 UK were lit with electric light McB9pg72uoU-00056-00013374-00013544 this system was powered from a water McB9pg72uoU-00057-00013544-00013712 wheel on the river way which drove a McB9pg72uoU-00058-00013713-00013880 Siemens alternator that supplied a McB9pg72uoU-00059-00013881-00014147 number of arc lamps within the town this McB9pg72uoU-00060-00014147-00014381 supply scheme also provided electricity McB9pg72uoU-00061-00014382-00014563 to a number of shops and premises to McB9pg72uoU-00062-00014565-00014872 light 34 incandescent Swan light bulbs McB9pg72uoU-00063-00014872-00015065 additionally Robert Hammond Indiana McB9pg72uoU-00064-00015066-00015344 December 1881 demonstrated the new McB9pg72uoU-00065-00015344-00015518 electric light in the Sussex town of McB9pg72uoU-00066-00015519-00015703 Brighton in the UK for a trial period McB9pg72uoU-00067-00015704-00015962 the ensuing success of this installation McB9pg72uoU-00068-00015963-00016172 enabled Hammond to put this venture on McB9pg72uoU-00069-00016172-00016355 both a commercial and legal footing as a McB9pg72uoU-00070-00016356-00016556 number of shop owners wanted to use the McB9pg72uoU-00071-00016557-00016793 new electric light thus the Hammond McB9pg72uoU-00072-00016794-00017009 electricity supply Co was launched McB9pg72uoU-00073-00017010-00017189 whilst the god--all Ming and Holborn McB9pg72uoU-00074-00017190-00017417 viaduct schemes closed after a few years McB9pg72uoU-00075-00017418-00017609 the Brighton scheme continued on and McB9pg72uoU-00076-00017610-00017927 supply was in 1887 made available for 24 McB9pg72uoU-00077-00017928-00018305 hours per day in early 1882 Edison McB9pg72uoU-00078-00018306-00018476 opened the world's first steam powered McB9pg72uoU-00079-00018477-00018659 electricity generating station at McB9pg72uoU-00080-00018660-00018866 Holborn viaduct in London where he had McB9pg72uoU-00081-00018867-00019022 entered into an agreement with the City McB9pg72uoU-00082-00019023-00019202 Corporation for a period of three months McB9pg72uoU-00083-00019203-00019499 to provide street lighting in time he McB9pg72uoU-00084-00019500-00019700 had supplied a number of local consumers McB9pg72uoU-00085-00019701-00019961 with electric light the method of supply McB9pg72uoU-00086-00019962-00020315 was direct current DC it was later on in McB9pg72uoU-00087-00020316-00020546 the year in September 1882 that Edison McB9pg72uoU-00088-00020547-00020753 opened the pole street power station in McB9pg72uoU-00089-00020754-00020936 New York City and again it was a DC McB9pg72uoU-00090-00020937-00021182 supply it was for this reason that the McB9pg72uoU-00091-00021183-00021350 generation was closed tor on the McB9pg72uoU-00092-00021351-00021554 consumers premises as Edison had no McB9pg72uoU-00093-00021555-00021818 means of voltage conversion the voltage McB9pg72uoU-00094-00021819-00022013 chosen for any electrical system is a McB9pg72uoU-00095-00022014-00022241 compromise for a given amount of power McB9pg72uoU-00096-00022242-00022406 transmitted increasing the voltage McB9pg72uoU-00097-00022407-00022565 reduces the current and therefore McB9pg72uoU-00098-00022566-00022831 reduces the required wire thickness McB9pg72uoU-00099-00022832-00023036 unfortunately it also increases the McB9pg72uoU-00100-00023037-00023258 danger from direct contact and increases McB9pg72uoU-00101-00023259-00023455 the required insulation thickness McB9pg72uoU-00102-00023456-00023675 furthermore some load types were McB9pg72uoU-00103-00023676-00023846 difficult or impossible to make work McB9pg72uoU-00104-00023847-00024134 with higher voltages the overall effect McB9pg72uoU-00105-00024135-00024320 was that Edison's system required power McB9pg72uoU-00106-00024321-00024497 stations to be within a mile of the McB9pg72uoU-00107-00024498-00024758 consumers while this could work in city McB9pg72uoU-00108-00024759-00024893 centers it would be unable to McB9pg72uoU-00109-00024894-00025112 economically supply suburbs with power McB9pg72uoU-00110-00025113-00025313 the mid to late 1880s saw the McB9pg72uoU-00111-00025314-00025499 introduction of alternating current AC McB9pg72uoU-00112-00025500-00025747 systems in Europe and the USA sea Power McB9pg72uoU-00113-00025748-00025949 had an advantage in that transformers McB9pg72uoU-00114-00025950-00026152 installed at power stations could be McB9pg72uoU-00115-00026154-00026300 used to raise the voltage from the McB9pg72uoU-00116-00026301-00026501 generators and transformers at local McB9pg72uoU-00117-00026502-00026687 substations could reduce voltage to McB9pg72uoU-00118-00026688-00026808 supply low McB9pg72uoU-00119-00026810-00027023 increasing the voltage reduced the McB9pg72uoU-00120-00027024-00027155 current in the transmission and McB9pg72uoU-00121-00027156-00027350 distribution lines and hence the size of McB9pg72uoU-00122-00027351-00027626 conductors and distribution losses this McB9pg72uoU-00123-00027627-00027812 made it more economical to distribute McB9pg72uoU-00124-00027813-00028070 power over long distances generators McB9pg72uoU-00125-00028070-00028268 such as hydroelectric sites could be McB9pg72uoU-00126-00028269-00028580 located far from the Lodz AC and DC McB9pg72uoU-00127-00028581-00028787 competed for a while during a period McB9pg72uoU-00128-00028788-00029087 called the war of currents the DC system McB9pg72uoU-00129-00029088-00029264 was able to claim slightly greater McB9pg72uoU-00130-00029264-00029462 safety but this difference was not great McB9pg72uoU-00131-00029463-00029606 enough to overwhelm the enormous McB9pg72uoU-00132-00029607-00029783 technical and economic advantages of McB9pg72uoU-00133-00029783-00029969 alternating current which eventually won McB9pg72uoU-00134-00029970-00030344 out the AC power system used today McB9pg72uoU-00135-00030345-00030512 developed rapidly backed by McB9pg72uoU-00136-00030513-00030664 industrialists such as George McB9pg72uoU-00137-00030666-00030839 Westinghouse with Michael dole Evo McB9pg72uoU-00138-00030839-00031136 dobrovolsky galileo ferraris Sebastien's McB9pg72uoU-00139-00031137-00031361 eonni de fer auntie Lucy and Guillard McB9pg72uoU-00140-00031362-00031595 John Dickson Gibbs karl wilhelm siemens McB9pg72uoU-00141-00031595-00031850 William Stanley jr. Nikola Tesla and McB9pg72uoU-00142-00031851-00032138 others contributed to this field while McB9pg72uoU-00143-00032139-00032395 high-voltage direct-current HVDC is McB9pg72uoU-00144-00032397-00032588 increasingly being used to transmit McB9pg72uoU-00145-00032589-00032768 large quantities of electricity over McB9pg72uoU-00146-00032769-00032984 long distances or to connect adjacent McB9pg72uoU-00147-00032985-00033185 asynchronous power systems the bulk of McB9pg72uoU-00148-00033186-00033353 electricity generation transmission McB9pg72uoU-00149-00033354-00033605 distribution and retailing takes place McB9pg72uoU-00150-00033606-00034388 using alternating current topic market McB9pg72uoU-00151-00034389-00034928 reform the business model behind the McB9pg72uoU-00152-00034929-00035120 electric utility has changed over the McB9pg72uoU-00153-00035121-00035291 years playing a vital role in shaping McB9pg72uoU-00154-00035292-00035504 the electricity industry into what it is McB9pg72uoU-00155-00035505-00035681 today from generation transmission McB9pg72uoU-00156-00035682-00035924 distribution to the final local McB9pg72uoU-00157-00035925-00036170 retailing this has occurred prominently McB9pg72uoU-00158-00036171-00036350 since the reform of the electricity McB9pg72uoU-00159-00036351-00036548 supply industry in England and Wales in McB9pg72uoU-00160-00036549-00036866 1990 in some countries wholesale McB9pg72uoU-00161-00036867-00037046 electricity markets operate with McB9pg72uoU-00162-00037047-00037217 generators and retailers trading McB9pg72uoU-00163-00037218-00037373 electricity in a similar manner to McB9pg72uoU-00164-00037374-00037667 shares and currency as deregulation McB9pg72uoU-00165-00037668-00037874 continues further utilities are driven McB9pg72uoU-00166-00037875-00038033 to sell their assets as the energy McB9pg72uoU-00167-00038034-00038195 market follows in line with the gas McB9pg72uoU-00168-00038196-00038384 market in use of the futures and spot McB9pg72uoU-00169-00038385-00038585 markets and other financial arrangements McB9pg72uoU-00170-00038586-00038837 even globalization with foreign McB9pg72uoU-00171-00038838-00038969 purchasers are taking place McB9pg72uoU-00172-00038970-00039212 one such purchase was when the UK's McB9pg72uoU-00173-00039213-00039404 National Grid the largest private McB9pg72uoU-00174-00039405-00039605 electric utility in the world bought New McB9pg72uoU-00175-00039606-00039806 England's electric system for 3.2 McB9pg72uoU-00176-00039807-00040121 billion dollars between 1995 McB9pg72uoU-00177-00040122-00040367 in 1997 seven of the 12 regional McB9pg72uoU-00178-00040368-00040616 electric companies re seized in England McB9pg72uoU-00179-00040617-00040793 and Wales were bought by US energy McB9pg72uoU-00180-00040794-00041090 companies domestically local electric McB9pg72uoU-00181-00041091-00041309 and gas firms have merged operations as McB9pg72uoU-00182-00041310-00041456 they saw the advantages of joint McB9pg72uoU-00183-00041457-00041651 affiliation especially with the reduced McB9pg72uoU-00184-00041652-00041927 cost of joint metering technological McB9pg72uoU-00185-00041928-00042089 advances will take place in the McB9pg72uoU-00186-00042090-00042281 competitive wholesale electric markets McB9pg72uoU-00187-00042282-00042500 such examples already being utilized McB9pg72uoU-00188-00042501-00042728 include fuel cells used in Space Flight McB9pg72uoU-00189-00042729-00042968 aero derivative gas turbines used in jet McB9pg72uoU-00190-00042969-00043142 aircraft solar engineering and McB9pg72uoU-00191-00043143-00043391 photovoltaic systems offshore wind farms McB9pg72uoU-00192-00043392-00043586 and the communication advances spawned McB9pg72uoU-00193-00043587-00043772 by the digital world particularly with McB9pg72uoU-00194-00043773-00043937 micro processing which aids in McB9pg72uoU-00195-00043938-00044138 monitoring and dispatching electricity McB9pg72uoU-00196-00044139-00044327 is expected to see growing demand in the McB9pg72uoU-00197-00044328-00044594 future the information revolution is McB9pg72uoU-00198-00044595-00044816 highly reliant on electric power other McB9pg72uoU-00199-00044817-00045014 growth areas include emerging new McB9pg72uoU-00200-00045015-00045212 electricity exclusive technologies McB9pg72uoU-00201-00045213-00045398 developments in space conditioning McB9pg72uoU-00202-00045399-00045638 industrial processes and transportation McB9pg72uoU-00203-00045639-00046372 for example hybrid vehicles locomotives McB9pg72uoU-00204-00046373-00047045 topic organization the electric power McB9pg72uoU-00205-00047046-00047249 industry is commonly split up into four McB9pg72uoU-00206-00047250-00047471 processors these are electricity McB9pg72uoU-00207-00047472-00047651 generations such as a power station McB9pg72uoU-00208-00047652-00047903 electric power transmission electricity McB9pg72uoU-00209-00047904-00048092 distribution and electricity retailing McB9pg72uoU-00210-00048093-00048347 in many countries electric power McB9pg72uoU-00211-00048348-00048536 companies own the whole infrastructure McB9pg72uoU-00212-00048537-00048746 from generating stations to transmission McB9pg72uoU-00213-00048747-00049001 and distribution infrastructure for this McB9pg72uoU-00214-00049002-00049190 reason electric power is viewed as a McB9pg72uoU-00215-00049191-00049442 natural monopoly the industry is McB9pg72uoU-00216-00049443-00049634 generally heavily regulated often with McB9pg72uoU-00217-00049635-00049793 price controls in is frequently McB9pg72uoU-00218-00049794-00050054 government owned and operated however McB9pg72uoU-00219-00050055-00050204 the modern trend has been growing McB9pg72uoU-00220-00050205-00050408 deregulation in at least the latter two McB9pg72uoU-00221-00050409-00050630 processes the nature and state of market McB9pg72uoU-00222-00050631-00050819 reform of the electricity market often McB9pg72uoU-00223-00050820-00050990 determines whether electric companies McB9pg72uoU-00224-00050991-00051170 are able to be involved in just some of McB9pg72uoU-00225-00051171-00051332 these processes without having to own McB9pg72uoU-00226-00051333-00051539 the entire infrastructure or citizens McB9pg72uoU-00227-00051540-00051658 choose which components of McB9pg72uoU-00228-00051659-00051938 infrastructure to patronize in countries McB9pg72uoU-00229-00051939-00052088 where electricity provision is McB9pg72uoU-00230-00052089-00052325 deregulated end users of electricity may McB9pg72uoU-00231-00052326-00053026 opt for more costly green electricity McB9pg72uoU-00232-00053027-00053629 topic generation all forms of McB9pg72uoU-00233-00053629-00053848 electricity generation have positive and McB9pg72uoU-00234-00053849-00053963 negative aspects McB9pg72uoU-00235-00053964-00054151 technology will probably eventually McB9pg72uoU-00236-00054152-00054379 declare the most preferred forms but in McB9pg72uoU-00237-00054379-00054576 a market economy the options with less McB9pg72uoU-00238-00054577-00054775 overall costs generally will be chosen McB9pg72uoU-00239-00054776-00055029 above other sources it is not clear yet McB9pg72uoU-00240-00055030-00055198 which form can best meet the necessary McB9pg72uoU-00241-00055199-00055447 energy demands or which process can best McB9pg72uoU-00242-00055448-00055704 solve the demand for electricity there McB9pg72uoU-00243-00055705-00055863 are indications that renewable energy McB9pg72uoU-00244-00055864-00056071 and distributed generation are becoming McB9pg72uoU-00245-00056072-00056374 more viable in economic terms a diverse McB9pg72uoU-00246-00056375-00056596 mix of generation sources reduces the McB9pg72uoU-00247-00056597-00057361 risks of electricity price spikes topic McB9pg72uoU-00248-00057362-00057951 world electricity industries the McB9pg72uoU-00249-00057952-00058165 organization of the electrical sector of McB9pg72uoU-00250-00058166-00058375 a country or region varies depending on McB9pg72uoU-00251-00058376-00058621 the economic system of the country in McB9pg72uoU-00252-00058622-00058804 some places all electric power McB9pg72uoU-00253-00058804-00058992 generation transmission and distribution McB9pg72uoU-00254-00058994-00059224 is provided by a government controlled McB9pg72uoU-00255-00059225-00059517 organization other regions have private McB9pg72uoU-00256-00059519-00059749 or investor owned utility companies city McB9pg72uoU-00257-00059750-00059899 or municipally owned companies McB9pg72uoU-00258-00059900-00060088 cooperative companies owned by their own McB9pg72uoU-00259-00060089-00060400 customers or combinations generation McB9pg72uoU-00260-00060401-00060588 transmission and distribution may be McB9pg72uoU-00261-00060589-00060790 offered by a single company or different McB9pg72uoU-00262-00060791-00060976 organizations may provide each of these McB9pg72uoU-00263-00060977-00061356 portions of the system equals equals see 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openness in a Mg50vEcvrKo-00013-00003965-00004247 very broad sense and it seems to me that Mg50vEcvrKo-00014-00004248-00004420 you're all calling for the three kind Mg50vEcvrKo-00015-00004421-00004663 the same kind of ingredients in order to Mg50vEcvrKo-00016-00004664-00004910 make this work first you said Therese Mg50vEcvrKo-00017-00004911-00005174 that we have moved from thinking about Mg50vEcvrKo-00018-00005175-00005522 open data as an end in itself and now we Mg50vEcvrKo-00019-00005523-00005788 should really shift our focus to make it Mg50vEcvrKo-00020-00005789-00005977 more like a tool and that is really Mg50vEcvrKo-00021-00005978-00006097 important to think about it in a Mg50vEcvrKo-00022-00006098-00006361 strategic way you you you actually said Mg50vEcvrKo-00023-00006362-00006587 that originally it seemed that people Mg50vEcvrKo-00024-00006588-00006970 would open up data in order to to hope Mg50vEcvrKo-00025-00006972-00007226 for serendipity to you know come up with Mg50vEcvrKo-00026-00007227-00007456 with great solutions out of the blue but Mg50vEcvrKo-00027-00007458-00007699 it's it's probably better to have some Mg50vEcvrKo-00028-00007700-00007859 kind of strategy and to be clear what Mg50vEcvrKo-00029-00007859-00008027 kind of problems you're trying to solve Mg50vEcvrKo-00030-00008028-00008330 and it it occurred to me that you're all Mg50vEcvrKo-00031-00008331-00008524 talking about requirements in terms of a Mg50vEcvrKo-00032-00008525-00008816 an open mindset lots and lots of Mg50vEcvrKo-00033-00008817-00009056 collaboration you Terry talked about the Mg50vEcvrKo-00034-00009057-00009323 fact that you actually try to help the Mg50vEcvrKo-00035-00009324-00009514 government authorities that may struggle Mg50vEcvrKo-00036-00009515-00009853 because now more people actually request Mg50vEcvrKo-00037-00009854-00010142 documents and and obviously you're a Mg50vEcvrKo-00038-00010143-00010337 connector you're trying to bring people Mg50vEcvrKo-00039-00010338-00010508 together for them to collaborate you're Mg50vEcvrKo-00040-00010509-00010663 all talking about that the time and Mg50vEcvrKo-00041-00010664-00011035 effort required and somehow you're all Mg50vEcvrKo-00042-00011036-00011246 talking about money some of you would Mg50vEcvrKo-00043-00011247-00011453 probably call it funding hopefully you Mg50vEcvrKo-00044-00011454-00011876 will you will say profit could could you Mg50vEcvrKo-00045-00011877-00012224 did you have any sort of perspectives on Mg50vEcvrKo-00046-00012225-00012413 each other's presentations in terms of Mg50vEcvrKo-00047-00012414-00012551 these things because you come from Mg50vEcvrKo-00048-00012552-00012685 different directions but you're all Mg50vEcvrKo-00049-00012686-00013111 talking about the same thing basically Mg50vEcvrKo-00050-00013112-00013283 [Music] Mg50vEcvrKo-00051-00013284-00013480 yeah maybe I'll have a reflection on the Mg50vEcvrKo-00052-00013481-00013718 industry hack presentation I find it Mg50vEcvrKo-00053-00013719-00013943 quite interesting that companies are so Mg50vEcvrKo-00054-00013944-00014258 interested in opening up and sharing a Mg50vEcvrKo-00055-00014259-00014458 lot of their information in their data Mg50vEcvrKo-00056-00014459-00014690 with startups that they haven't met yet Mg50vEcvrKo-00057-00014691-00014893 and I think it kind of shows that Mg50vEcvrKo-00058-00014894-00015191 companies see a value in openness and in Mg50vEcvrKo-00059-00015191-00015469 sharing and an open innovation which we Mg50vEcvrKo-00060-00015470-00015625 see as well at the ODI with the Mg50vEcvrKo-00061-00015626-00016111 accelerators rerun is it difficult for Mg50vEcvrKo-00062-00016112-00016325 you to convince those companies to kind Mg50vEcvrKo-00063-00016326-00016502 of move towards that open innovation Mg50vEcvrKo-00064-00016503-00016685 concept or do you see a lot of interest Mg50vEcvrKo-00065-00016686-00016928 coming from them I think kind of like Mg50vEcvrKo-00066-00016929-00017183 it's it's it's starting to starting get Mg50vEcvrKo-00067-00017184-00017360 there and I think it's sort of like Mg50vEcvrKo-00068-00017361-00017578 important also to you know they study Mg50vEcvrKo-00069-00017579-00017708 they are not really opening that Mg50vEcvrKo-00070-00017709-00017950 publicly so they are not that busy Mg50vEcvrKo-00071-00017951-00018283 sensitive data is not there I mean the Mg50vEcvrKo-00072-00018284-00018433 kind of like in the open but what does Mg50vEcvrKo-00073-00018434-00018619 kind of like you talked about this Mg50vEcvrKo-00074-00018620-00018847 closed shared and open it's somewhere in Mg50vEcvrKo-00075-00018848-00019025 the kind of like shared on it's it's Mg50vEcvrKo-00076-00019026-00019196 shared to a specific group of people Mg50vEcvrKo-00077-00019197-00019444 that it's kind of like a sort of view Mg50vEcvrKo-00078-00019445-00019628 within every challenge there is sort of Mg50vEcvrKo-00079-00019629-00019900 this confidentially circle that all the Mg50vEcvrKo-00080-00019901-00020093 companies and people who are they they Mg50vEcvrKo-00081-00020094-00020278 are kind of accept the terms that we Mg50vEcvrKo-00082-00020279-00020459 talk real things but we don't really Mg50vEcvrKo-00083-00020460-00020666 disclose those to the third-party and I Mg50vEcvrKo-00084-00020667-00020844 think that's an important sort of like a Mg50vEcvrKo-00085-00020845-00021221 step maybe becoming even more open in Mg50vEcvrKo-00086-00021222-00021386 the future but if we start to take that Mg50vEcvrKo-00087-00021387-00021583 okay now you actually have to open your Mg50vEcvrKo-00088-00021584-00021767 for example manufacturing process data Mg50vEcvrKo-00089-00021768-00022022 open it open to to anybody then kind of Mg50vEcvrKo-00090-00022023-00022178 like it's that that's not the way to go Mg50vEcvrKo-00091-00022179-00022343 but exactly kind of building slowly the Mg50vEcvrKo-00092-00022344-00022558 capabilities and the ladder to to Mg50vEcvrKo-00093-00022559-00022747 benefit more and more of the openness Mg50vEcvrKo-00094-00022748-00022961 but I think it's to answer your Mg50vEcvrKo-00095-00022962-00023108 questions more and more and more Mg50vEcvrKo-00096-00023109-00023252 companies are starting to be ready and Mg50vEcvrKo-00097-00023253-00023474 understanding the value of this more Mg50vEcvrKo-00098-00023475-00023636 open collaboration but of course some Mg50vEcvrKo-00099-00023637-00023858 companies are still logging more behind Mg50vEcvrKo-00100-00023859-00024715 than than others because both of you are Mg50vEcvrKo-00101-00024716-00025297 are helping different startups in in Mg50vEcvrKo-00102-00025298-00025675 your own ways and I mean in both your Mg50vEcvrKo-00103-00025676-00025965 presentations you you you touch upon Mg50vEcvrKo-00104-00025966-00026276 many different groups that you are in Mg50vEcvrKo-00105-00026277-00026554 touch with Mg50vEcvrKo-00106-00026555-00027073 open open data is somehow this the Mg50vEcvrKo-00107-00027074-00027561 working material for all of this but Mg50vEcvrKo-00108-00027562-00027795 both of you also obviously must Mg50vEcvrKo-00109-00027797-00028048 encounter a lot of negotiations and Mg50vEcvrKo-00110-00028049-00028449 possibly tough discussions on Mg50vEcvrKo-00111-00028450-00028885 intellectual rights around how how to Mg50vEcvrKo-00112-00028886-00029127 monetize on this raw material which Mg50vEcvrKo-00113-00029128-00029407 which we all want and we all use and Mg50vEcvrKo-00114-00029408-00030135 analyze well I haven't been working on Mg50vEcvrKo-00115-00030136-00030582 on that arena I'm very curious on your Mg50vEcvrKo-00116-00030583-00030846 perspectives on on these initial Mg50vEcvrKo-00117-00030847-00031120 discussions between what is open and Mg50vEcvrKo-00118-00031120-00031498 free what is such unique utilization of Mg50vEcvrKo-00119-00031499-00031789 this raw material that somebody Mg50vEcvrKo-00120-00031789-00031987 specifically can monetize on it and Mg50vEcvrKo-00121-00031988-00032412 nobody else could could you bring some Mg50vEcvrKo-00122-00032413-00032640 some experiences from the start of Mg50vEcvrKo-00123-00032641-00033082 negotiations yeah I think like it Mg50vEcvrKo-00124-00033083-00033315 depends of course a bit on the what is Mg50vEcvrKo-00125-00033316-00033483 the data if it's the kind of data shared Mg50vEcvrKo-00126-00033484-00033736 by the initial company about kind of Mg50vEcvrKo-00127-00033737-00033877 like their processes it is of course Mg50vEcvrKo-00128-00033878-00034135 their their IP n and and and and sort of Mg50vEcvrKo-00129-00034136-00034279 then it's about the kind of like Mg50vEcvrKo-00130-00034280-00034480 negotiate with the startup how to how to Mg50vEcvrKo-00131-00034481-00034626 monetize it how to connect that with Mg50vEcvrKo-00132-00034627-00034798 then the IP that the startup has created Mg50vEcvrKo-00133-00034799-00034962 within within the challenge and I'm kind Mg50vEcvrKo-00134-00034963-00035086 of like that's exactly the kind of Mg50vEcvrKo-00135-00035087-00035314 touching point that how to find the the Mg50vEcvrKo-00136-00035315-00035520 mutual agreement to to go forward and Mg50vEcvrKo-00137-00035521-00035751 for example we've tried to easin up that Mg50vEcvrKo-00138-00035752-00035958 processing in creating templates also Mg50vEcvrKo-00139-00035959-00036310 form in within the format from the legal Mg50vEcvrKo-00140-00036311-00036445 perspective that you know this is Mg50vEcvrKo-00141-00036446-00036757 actually the standard terms how how you Mg50vEcvrKo-00142-00036758-00036967 participate and this is how what what we Mg50vEcvrKo-00143-00036968-00037324 usually do and kind of like instead of Mg50vEcvrKo-00144-00037325-00037524 starting to really kind of like dig into Mg50vEcvrKo-00145-00037525-00037714 the deep legal departments of Mg50vEcvrKo-00146-00037715-00037890 corporations are starting to kind of Mg50vEcvrKo-00147-00037891-00038104 like find the solution from there but Mg50vEcvrKo-00148-00038105-00038314 rather develop something from experience Mg50vEcvrKo-00149-00038315-00038539 and then iterated when whenever whenever Mg50vEcvrKo-00150-00038540-00038782 needed so that's maybe one one angle to Mg50vEcvrKo-00151-00038783-00039157 try to tackle the tackle the issue yeah Mg50vEcvrKo-00152-00039158-00039420 I agree and kind of following up on Mg50vEcvrKo-00153-00039421-00039679 points raised earlier that companies and Mg50vEcvrKo-00154-00039680-00039868 government increasingly severe Mg50vEcvrKo-00155-00039869-00040198 an openness and an open innovation on Mg50vEcvrKo-00156-00040199-00040360 one of the startup accelerators Mg50vEcvrKo-00157-00040361-00040513 rerunning currently which is called data Mg50vEcvrKo-00158-00040514-00040786 pitch we actually connect businesses Mg50vEcvrKo-00159-00040787-00040975 that want to solve a particular Mg50vEcvrKo-00160-00040976-00041365 challenge and provide data with startups Mg50vEcvrKo-00161-00041366-00041572 to help solve that challenge so kind of Mg50vEcvrKo-00162-00041573-00041839 highlighting that direct benefit to Mg50vEcvrKo-00163-00041840-00042172 opening your data helps in bringing that Mg50vEcvrKo-00164-00042173-00042469 argument across I guess you could talk Mg50vEcvrKo-00165-00042470-00042712 about a wider discussion of whether data Mg50vEcvrKo-00166-00042713-00042976 is a raw material like any other where Mg50vEcvrKo-00167-00042977-00043282 there's actually clear ownership if I Mg50vEcvrKo-00168-00043283-00043519 make a phone call to you who owns the Mg50vEcvrKo-00169-00043520-00043690 data is at me because I'm making the Mg50vEcvrKo-00170-00043691-00043876 call is that the company that makes the Mg50vEcvrKo-00171-00043877-00044035 connection is it you because you're Mg50vEcvrKo-00172-00044036-00044383 receiving we tend to not think as data Mg50vEcvrKo-00173-00044384-00044641 of being owned by one specific Mg50vEcvrKo-00174-00044642-00044857 organizational person but rather focus Mg50vEcvrKo-00175-00044858-00045055 around how that data is being managed Mg50vEcvrKo-00176-00045056-00045331 and used maybe one actually we had an Mg50vEcvrKo-00177-00045332-00045475 interesting discussion before entering Mg50vEcvrKo-00178-00045476-00045706 the yeah this this this room with one of Mg50vEcvrKo-00179-00045707-00045868 the persons in the in the audience about Mg50vEcvrKo-00180-00045869-00046117 I talked the company called Viner who is Mg50vEcvrKo-00181-00046118-00046342 actually aggregating a lot of open data Mg50vEcvrKo-00182-00046343-00046558 from different sources and sort of like Mg50vEcvrKo-00183-00046559-00046759 making a tool for people to search Mg50vEcvrKo-00184-00046760-00046969 knowledge about companies and they've Mg50vEcvrKo-00185-00046970-00047227 actually grown very fast I think which Mg50vEcvrKo-00186-00047228-00047386 is something hundred fifty people our Mg50vEcvrKo-00187-00047387-00047599 organization within three years so Mg50vEcvrKo-00188-00047600-00047872 really growing fast and heavily based Mg50vEcvrKo-00189-00047873-00048118 basting the business model on on on the Mg50vEcvrKo-00190-00048119-00048382 data that is openly available so that's Mg50vEcvrKo-00191-00048383-00048571 also I think an interesting perspective Mg50vEcvrKo-00192-00048572-00049033 in the in the discussion it could pose I Mg50vEcvrKo-00193-00049034-00049282 think some interesting dilemmas this the Mg50vEcvrKo-00194-00049283-00049462 openness of the data but then the Mg50vEcvrKo-00195-00049463-00049735 closeness of of the profits that you may Mg50vEcvrKo-00196-00049736-00049993 make from data or the insights that you Mg50vEcvrKo-00197-00049994-00050236 get from data or whatever and I think Mg50vEcvrKo-00198-00050237-00050443 it's interesting that now you're seated Mg50vEcvrKo-00199-00050444-00050623 in the middle Terrier and and you're Mg50vEcvrKo-00200-00050624-00050905 actually working boy you're not working Mg50vEcvrKo-00201-00050906-00051130 in a kind of closed bubble because as Mg50vEcvrKo-00202-00051131-00051315 you said in the beginning your paper Mg50vEcvrKo-00203-00051316-00051598 needs funding to you have made in soon Mg50vEcvrKo-00204-00051599-00051844 dot you know because you wanted to make Mg50vEcvrKo-00205-00051845-00052114 this kind of of information this kind of Mg50vEcvrKo-00206-00052115-00052377 tool available to the world and you had Mg50vEcvrKo-00207-00052378-00052579 a question did that act that did that Mg50vEcvrKo-00208-00052579-00052864 actually increase traffic on your Mg50vEcvrKo-00209-00052865-00053086 newspaper website because obviously we Mg50vEcvrKo-00210-00053087-00053258 all realize that even if you Mg50vEcvrKo-00211-00053259-00053380 doing a lot of this for ideological Mg50vEcvrKo-00212-00053382-00053651 reasons you still need to live and you Mg50vEcvrKo-00213-00053652-00053888 can only be an investigative journalist Mg50vEcvrKo-00214-00053889-00054248 if somebody pays your bills so what do Mg50vEcvrKo-00215-00054249-00054419 you think about that in terms of the Mg50vEcvrKo-00216-00054420-00054638 freedom of speech the right to to Mg50vEcvrKo-00217-00054639-00054860 information and the money side of things Mg50vEcvrKo-00218-00054861-00055066 and I also touched a partner on that Mg50vEcvrKo-00219-00055067-00055211 when I asked you the other way around Mg50vEcvrKo-00220-00055212-00055532 that do public authorities get upset Mg50vEcvrKo-00221-00055533-00055790 when when you ask them so many questions Mg50vEcvrKo-00222-00055791-00055985 and they have to allocate funds to Mg50vEcvrKo-00223-00055986-00056225 actually respond to these requests which Mg50vEcvrKo-00224-00056226-00056591 are you know you're covered by law you Mg50vEcvrKo-00225-00056591-00056885 have the right to ask but you know could Mg50vEcvrKo-00226-00056886-00057116 it be that these this money that they Mg50vEcvrKo-00227-00057116-00057299 spend trying to answer your question Mg50vEcvrKo-00228-00057300-00057446 could be spent on something better Mg50vEcvrKo-00229-00057447-00057788 and there's another dilemma there so how Mg50vEcvrKo-00230-00057789-00058250 do you feel about the money side well I Mg50vEcvrKo-00231-00058251-00058625 I have my job as a as a journalist what Mg50vEcvrKo-00232-00058626-00058886 I'm always struggling for is it's the Mg50vEcvrKo-00233-00058887-00059080 resource which is the developer that I'm Mg50vEcvrKo-00234-00059082-00059336 cooperating with he has other tasks as Mg50vEcvrKo-00235-00059337-00059605 well of course we all need good coders Mg50vEcvrKo-00236-00059607-00059861 for different purposes so there is a Mg50vEcvrKo-00237-00059862-00060746 resource side since we made our tool Mg50vEcvrKo-00238-00060747-00061334 free it did encourage cooperation we Mg50vEcvrKo-00239-00061335-00061565 gave it away to our competitors some of Mg50vEcvrKo-00240-00061566-00061820 our competitors came back and said this Mg50vEcvrKo-00241-00061821-00062123 is wonderful can we help you so we are a Mg50vEcvrKo-00242-00062124-00062408 commercial newspaper owned by shipstead Mg50vEcvrKo-00243-00062409-00062603 which is also a big media company here Mg50vEcvrKo-00244-00062604-00063004 in Sweden the Public Broadcasting Mg50vEcvrKo-00245-00063005-00063404 Corporation came and said can we help Mg50vEcvrKo-00246-00063404-00063803 you and that that doesn't happen we are Mg50vEcvrKo-00247-00063804-00064208 supposed to be enemies okay so we did Mg50vEcvrKo-00248-00064209-00064754 did encourage some some some some some Mg50vEcvrKo-00249-00064754-00065282 good new connections in a short term Mg50vEcvrKo-00250-00065283-00065534 I see no income perspective for what we Mg50vEcvrKo-00251-00065535-00065945 do at indirectly only hoping that it Mg50vEcvrKo-00252-00065946-00066334 will improve journalism in the future Mg50vEcvrKo-00253-00066335-00066556 maybe Mg50vEcvrKo-00254-00066557-00066875 we will keep the services we have now Mg50vEcvrKo-00255-00066876-00067247 open and free but maybe on top of that Mg50vEcvrKo-00256-00067248-00067466 we can build something because we are Mg50vEcvrKo-00257-00067467-00067724 making a big database with struct Mg50vEcvrKo-00258-00067725-00068021 structured information on the document Mg50vEcvrKo-00259-00068022-00068366 flow in public sector and as that Mg50vEcvrKo-00260-00068367-00068567 material grows and gets better Mg50vEcvrKo-00261-00068568-00068921 maybe that is worth something to Mg50vEcvrKo-00262-00068922-00069298 government maybe we could build a Mg50vEcvrKo-00263-00069299-00069653 subscription that you can be notified Mg50vEcvrKo-00264-00069654-00069929 when when there are documents that you Mg50vEcvrKo-00265-00069930-00070316 might be specifically interested in this Mg50vEcvrKo-00266-00070317-00070526 is a hint you might want to send a FOIA Mg50vEcvrKo-00267-00070527-00071017 for this document because our data grows Mg50vEcvrKo-00268-00071018-00071366 and maybe that at least can can pay some Mg50vEcvrKo-00269-00071367-00071555 of the bills because my local newspaper Mg50vEcvrKo-00270-00071556-00072025 is now taking most of the bill and then Mg50vEcvrKo-00271-00072026-00072479 stiffness in Quito which is a charity is Mg50vEcvrKo-00272-00072480-00072833 paying some of it yeah but what you're Mg50vEcvrKo-00273-00072834-00073022 basically saying that all of you Mg50vEcvrKo-00274-00073023-00073205 actually when when you start to throw Mg50vEcvrKo-00275-00073206-00073622 open in in the mix sometimes magic for Mg50vEcvrKo-00276-00073623-00073832 want of a better word starts happening Mg50vEcvrKo-00277-00073833-00073994 because people will actually come to you Mg50vEcvrKo-00278-00073995-00074207 and say can we be part of this can we Mg50vEcvrKo-00279-00074208-00074876 contribute somehow but but I think in Mg50vEcvrKo-00280-00074877-00075239 the long term a project is viable if it Mg50vEcvrKo-00281-00075240-00075515 solves the problem if it doesn't solve a Mg50vEcvrKo-00282-00075516-00075653 problem it doesn't have the right to Mg50vEcvrKo-00283-00075654-00076133 live if it solves a problem it may find Mg50vEcvrKo-00284-00076134-00076415 a way to live here do you think it's a Mg50vEcvrKo-00285-00076416-00076796 good measure of the sort of the the size Mg50vEcvrKo-00286-00076797-00077036 of the problem it solves is whether or Mg50vEcvrKo-00287-00077037-00077204 not people are willing to pay for it Mg50vEcvrKo-00288-00077205-00077402 because you know it may solve a problem Mg50vEcvrKo-00289-00077403-00077585 but if people are not willing in the end Mg50vEcvrKo-00290-00077586-00077834 to pay something for it it may just be a Mg50vEcvrKo-00291-00077835-00078119 nice to have and not a need to have even Mg50vEcvrKo-00292-00078120-00078257 though I think most of us would agree Mg50vEcvrKo-00293-00078258-00078485 that actually having the tools to Mg50vEcvrKo-00294-00078486-00078701 exercise our right to freedom of speech Mg50vEcvrKo-00295-00078702-00078944 is not just a nice to have it's Mg50vEcvrKo-00296-00078945-00079124 definitely a need to have but do we Mg50vEcvrKo-00297-00079125-00079469 realize that on a daily basis I wouldn't Mg50vEcvrKo-00298-00079470-00079700 necessarily say that it's based on the Mg50vEcvrKo-00299-00079701-00079895 amount that users pay for it one of the Mg50vEcvrKo-00300-00079896-00079928 exact Mg50vEcvrKo-00301-00079929-00080143 as I mentioned with citymapper and it's Mg50vEcvrKo-00302-00080144-00080362 a completely free application anyone can Mg50vEcvrKo-00303-00080363-00080731 use it and it's easy and it's free and Mg50vEcvrKo-00304-00080732-00080930 it's very helpful in its solving a very Mg50vEcvrKo-00305-00080931-00081118 big problems I don't think necessarily Mg50vEcvrKo-00306-00081119-00081512 you can measure it based on that I think Mg50vEcvrKo-00307-00081513-00081700 what businesses are realizing as well as Mg50vEcvrKo-00308-00081701-00081962 that release date the value isn't Mg50vEcvrKo-00309-00081963-00082219 necessarily in the data itself but in Mg50vEcvrKo-00310-00082220-00082391 the analytics and any insights that Mg50vEcvrKo-00311-00082392-00082553 you're getting from that data and that's Mg50vEcvrKo-00312-00082554-00082709 where the value comes in and I think Mg50vEcvrKo-00313-00082710-00082955 we're realizing that shift a little bit Mg50vEcvrKo-00314-00082956-00083216 and with that realization the open Mg50vEcvrKo-00315-00083217-00083491 culture is growing a little bit as well Mg50vEcvrKo-00316-00083492-00083743 actually Therese you talked about the Mg50vEcvrKo-00317-00083744-00084007 the need not just for data scientists Mg50vEcvrKo-00318-00084008-00084248 and data science skills but a lot more Mg50vEcvrKo-00319-00084249-00084524 perhaps for a data literacy so that Mg50vEcvrKo-00320-00084525-00084761 everybody should be able to understand Mg50vEcvrKo-00321-00084762-00085075 at least the basics of of data I see you Mg50vEcvrKo-00322-00085076-00085330 nodding - yeah I'm not surprised I was Mg50vEcvrKo-00323-00085331-00085547 just wondering do you see that there's a Mg50vEcvrKo-00324-00085548-00085790 general shift towards that towards an Mg50vEcvrKo-00325-00085791-00085961 understanding that this is not just Mg50vEcvrKo-00326-00085962-00086261 about tech startups this is not just Mg50vEcvrKo-00327-00086262-00086450 about grassroots who wants to do Mg50vEcvrKo-00328-00086451-00086618 something open for the sake of being Mg50vEcvrKo-00329-00086619-00086943 open or very sort of idealistic Mg50vEcvrKo-00330-00086944-00087301 investigative journalists who will you Mg50vEcvrKo-00331-00087302-00087455 know do things in their spare time Mg50vEcvrKo-00332-00087456-00087631 because they think it's the right thing Mg50vEcvrKo-00333-00087632-00087787 to do do you think there's a shift Mg50vEcvrKo-00334-00087788-00087994 towards the the idea that this is Mg50vEcvrKo-00335-00087995-00088225 something we should all somehow embrace Mg50vEcvrKo-00336-00088226-00088468 and we all have a responsibility to to Mg50vEcvrKo-00337-00088469-00088735 promote it well I think so I think Mg50vEcvrKo-00338-00088736-00089003 things are happening and we need to kind Mg50vEcvrKo-00339-00089004-00089267 of catch up with it because data affects Mg50vEcvrKo-00340-00089268-00089435 all of us and the way data is used Mg50vEcvrKo-00341-00089436-00089660 effects the way our lives are being Mg50vEcvrKo-00342-00089661-00089948 designed and we need to learn to keep up Mg50vEcvrKo-00343-00089949-00090130 with it I'm always amazed now when I go Mg50vEcvrKo-00344-00090131-00090262 on Facebook and there are advertisements Mg50vEcvrKo-00345-00090263-00090605 on the side every advertisement is so Mg50vEcvrKo-00346-00090606-00090775 interesting to me it used to be that I Mg50vEcvrKo-00347-00090776-00090941 buy a pair of shoes and then they put Mg50vEcvrKo-00348-00090942-00091130 the same pair of shoes and I already Mg50vEcvrKo-00349-00091131-00091312 bottoms or know things but now Mg50vEcvrKo-00350-00091313-00091687 everything is just tailored for me and Mg50vEcvrKo-00351-00091688-00091922 in a way that's amazing because it's Mg50vEcvrKo-00352-00091923-00092176 very useful but in the other hand that Mg50vEcvrKo-00353-00092177-00092401 means that my bubble is shrinking and Mg50vEcvrKo-00354-00092402-00092563 shrinking so I think we're all Mg50vEcvrKo-00355-00092564-00092771 confronted with data and the impacts of Mg50vEcvrKo-00356-00092772-00092960 data every day and so we need to learn Mg50vEcvrKo-00357-00092961-00093197 and understand those impacts to react to Mg50vEcvrKo-00358-00093198-00093275 them Mg50vEcvrKo-00359-00093276-00093392 agreed and I think it was a great Mg50vEcvrKo-00360-00093393-00093563 question from the audience about the Tao Mg50vEcvrKo-00361-00093564-00093800 how is this actually teach to the future Mg50vEcvrKo-00362-00093801-00093968 generations and how is the kind of like Mg50vEcvrKo-00363-00093969-00094166 how are we helping to you to shape the Mg50vEcvrKo-00364-00094167-00094328 mindset of the kind of what future Mg50vEcvrKo-00365-00094329-00094535 makers that how do they understand a Mg50vEcvrKo-00366-00094536-00094697 winner will understand the change Mg50vEcvrKo-00367-00094698-00095072 because in any case the change won't we Mg50vEcvrKo-00368-00095073-00095261 will become faster and faster all the Mg50vEcvrKo-00369-00095262-00095408 time and really I think it's it's Mg50vEcvrKo-00370-00095409-00095765 important to to sort of like be be aware Mg50vEcvrKo-00371-00095766-00096071 and and be aboard and sort of also take Mg50vEcvrKo-00372-00096072-00096287 the responsibility responsibility of Mg50vEcvrKo-00373-00096288-00096452 making our future generations to Mg50vEcvrKo-00374-00096453-00097103 understand it as well I think we all Mg50vEcvrKo-00375-00097104-00097298 have a responsibility but we can't all Mg50vEcvrKo-00376-00097299-00097700 do the same I think I will try to Mg50vEcvrKo-00377-00097701-00098105 encourage my kids to learn code to my Mg50vEcvrKo-00378-00098106-00098585 parents maybe that's a bit too late but Mg50vEcvrKo-00379-00098586-00098870 but I'll still spend time giving them Mg50vEcvrKo-00380-00098871-00099134 examples given them stories how this is Mg50vEcvrKo-00381-00099135-00099533 relevant so that I understand it so that Mg50vEcvrKo-00382-00099534-00099755 they participate in the debates around Mg50vEcvrKo-00383-00099756-00100253 around it because they still do but but Mg50vEcvrKo-00384-00100254-00100442 in the end when we're not all going to Mg50vEcvrKo-00385-00100443-00100682 be programmers somebody is going to Mg50vEcvrKo-00386-00100683-00101012 drive that truck and a good programmer Mg50vEcvrKo-00387-00101013-00101462 made that guy's day easier somebody is Mg50vEcvrKo-00388-00101463-00101675 going to drive trains at least some of Mg50vEcvrKo-00389-00101676-00101810 the trains will still be driven by Mg50vEcvrKo-00390-00101811-00102323 people for a while and somebody must Mg50vEcvrKo-00391-00102324-00102539 construct and assign it so so we're not Mg50vEcvrKo-00392-00102540-00102971 all going to be IT people but we need to Mg50vEcvrKo-00393-00102972-00103298 understand it and encourage the use of Mg50vEcvrKo-00394-00103299-00103673 all of this now you represent three Mg50vEcvrKo-00395-00103674-00103885 different countries what what are your Mg50vEcvrKo-00396-00103886-00104141 impressions of what's being done to make Mg50vEcvrKo-00397-00104142-00104351 sure that younger generations actually Mg50vEcvrKo-00398-00104352-00104683 if not grow up understanding this but at Mg50vEcvrKo-00399-00104684-00104864 least have some chance of grasping Mg50vEcvrKo-00400-00104865-00105041 what's going on around them and grasping Mg50vEcvrKo-00401-00105042-00105398 the importance of of paying attention to Mg50vEcvrKo-00402-00105399-00105851 these kind of things well in Finland Mg50vEcvrKo-00403-00105852-00106078 areas are different kind of initiatives Mg50vEcvrKo-00404-00106079-00106376 for example one to my mind one that Mg50vEcvrKo-00405-00106377-00106556 comes to my mind is is it's called me Mg50vEcvrKo-00406-00106557-00106664 Hackett which is kind of like Mg50vEcvrKo-00407-00106665-00106979 all about teaching the high school kids Mg50vEcvrKo-00408-00106980-00107213 they're kind of very basics on beat Mg50vEcvrKo-00409-00107214-00107375 coding on being creating something Mg50vEcvrKo-00410-00107376-00107504 visual or really kind of like just Mg50vEcvrKo-00411-00107505-00107642 understanding the opportunities and Mg50vEcvrKo-00412-00107643-00107828 possibilities of technology and I think Mg50vEcvrKo-00413-00107829-00107975 it was good with what you said that it's Mg50vEcvrKo-00414-00107976-00108158 it's not about making everyone like a Mg50vEcvrKo-00415-00108158-00108467 deep deep understanding and and doer of Mg50vEcvrKo-00416-00108468-00108731 that kind of like very very hardcore Mg50vEcvrKo-00417-00108732-00108902 tech but really understanding the basics Mg50vEcvrKo-00418-00108903-00109094 and and tying it to the concept context Mg50vEcvrKo-00419-00109095-00109325 of of sort of like a normal life is Mg50vEcvrKo-00420-00109326-00109664 super super important and if we say look Mg50vEcvrKo-00421-00109665-00109904 of fighting like university students at Mg50vEcvrKo-00422-00109905-00110086 the moment if we take 10 years back no Mg50vEcvrKo-00423-00110088-00110209 one was even thinking about Mg50vEcvrKo-00424-00110210-00110372 entrepreneurship but actually doing Mg50vEcvrKo-00425-00110373-00110594 something their own as a viable option Mg50vEcvrKo-00426-00110595-00110750 but they were looking for very different Mg50vEcvrKo-00427-00110751-00110879 directions and now if you're going to Mg50vEcvrKo-00428-00110880-00111034 ask from the freshmen that are they Mg50vEcvrKo-00429-00111035-00111278 aspiring to maybe you know make a great Mg50vEcvrKo-00430-00111279-00111422 impact and build something of their own Mg50vEcvrKo-00431-00111423-00111632 80% raises their hands so it's kind of Mg50vEcvrKo-00432-00111633-00111866 like also the demerged shift and culture Mg50vEcvrKo-00433-00111867-00112108 shift what has been a pretty pretty Mg50vEcvrKo-00434-00112109-00112424 pretty big unexperienced in female at Mg50vEcvrKo-00435-00112425-00112598 least but I think it's touching them the Mg50vEcvrKo-00436-00112599-00112868 whole area of knowledge and world even Mg50vEcvrKo-00437-00112869-00113549 what kind of like still yeah I think the Mg50vEcvrKo-00438-00113550-00113816 important thing is to highlight the fact Mg50vEcvrKo-00439-00113817-00114038 that it's not just for technology and to Mg50vEcvrKo-00440-00114039-00114167 make it tangible and to make it Mg50vEcvrKo-00441-00114168-00114409 approachable to younger kids I think in Mg50vEcvrKo-00442-00114410-00114647 a way they might find it easier because Mg50vEcvrKo-00443-00114648-00114821 they grow up with these challenges and Mg50vEcvrKo-00444-00114822-00115067 if we understand them then we can teach Mg50vEcvrKo-00445-00115068-00115271 them as well but I think a lot of work Mg50vEcvrKo-00446-00115272-00115814 still needs to be done well the role of Mg50vEcvrKo-00447-00115815-00116057 the journalist is easier here we can Mg50vEcvrKo-00448-00116058-00116225 find the good stories about this and Mg50vEcvrKo-00449-00116226-00116536 write them and thereby spread awareness Mg50vEcvrKo-00450-00116538-00116801 on how this can be used in in sound Mg50vEcvrKo-00451-00116802-00117527 manners so I I'll try to do that and try Mg50vEcvrKo-00452-00117528-00117704 to encourage some of my colleagues to do Mg50vEcvrKo-00453-00117705-00118141 the same it's good stuff to read about I Mg50vEcvrKo-00454-00118142-00118408 think you mentioned Therese that some of Mg50vEcvrKo-00455-00118409-00118595 your friends know exactly what you're Mg50vEcvrKo-00456-00118596-00118730 talking about when you talk about your Mg50vEcvrKo-00457-00118731-00118892 jobs but you always know people who have Mg50vEcvrKo-00458-00118893-00119105 absolutely no idea of what what open Mg50vEcvrKo-00459-00119106-00119375 data is about is the thing like perhaps Mg50vEcvrKo-00460-00119376-00119531 that's what you're suggesting tell you Mg50vEcvrKo-00461-00119532-00119798 that sometimes we shouldn't talk about Mg50vEcvrKo-00462-00119799-00119951 open data we should talk about the Mg50vEcvrKo-00463-00119952-00120101 things that we can do now that we Mg50vEcvrKo-00464-00120102-00120365 a digital world that we tend to either Mg50vEcvrKo-00465-00120366-00120632 talk about the digital world in very Mg50vEcvrKo-00466-00120633-00120833 abstract sense or we talk very Mg50vEcvrKo-00467-00120833-00121043 specifically about open data and that Mg50vEcvrKo-00468-00121044-00121253 sort of naturally excludes a lot of Mg50vEcvrKo-00469-00121254-00121433 people who think well that's the sort of Mg50vEcvrKo-00470-00121433-00121568 thing that you talk about if you're a Mg50vEcvrKo-00471-00121569-00121913 geek or something at least it was my Mg50vEcvrKo-00472-00121914-00122086 impression from when I worked in the Mg50vEcvrKo-00473-00122088-00122246 Danish government that it was pretty Mg50vEcvrKo-00474-00122247-00122495 much either-or we talked about digital Mg50vEcvrKo-00475-00122496-00122678 society as a whole and then we talked Mg50vEcvrKo-00476-00122679-00122873 about open data and that had a lot to do Mg50vEcvrKo-00477-00122874-00123082 with hackathons and data portals and Mg50vEcvrKo-00478-00123083-00123385 developers full stop sometimes we threw Mg50vEcvrKo-00479-00123386-00123854 in the word innovation but often not so Mg50vEcvrKo-00480-00123855-00124009 you're talking again about you're Mg50vEcvrKo-00481-00124010-00124256 defining the problem or you know making Mg50vEcvrKo-00482-00124257-00124589 it useful in a broader sense yeah Mg50vEcvrKo-00483-00124590-00124984 totally I mean open data is great just Mg50vEcvrKo-00484-00124985-00125192 in itself because it gives us access to Mg50vEcvrKo-00485-00125193-00125405 information but it only really becomes Mg50vEcvrKo-00486-00125406-00125659 valuable when it's being used and in Mg50vEcvrKo-00487-00125660-00125980 reality from our startup incubation Mg50vEcvrKo-00488-00125981-00126206 programs we see that jobs are being Mg50vEcvrKo-00489-00126207-00126446 created we see that new industries are Mg50vEcvrKo-00490-00126447-00126674 being developed we see new products that Mg50vEcvrKo-00491-00126675-00126851 make people's lives easier so there are Mg50vEcvrKo-00492-00126852-00127118 tangible results that are linked to open Mg50vEcvrKo-00493-00127119-00127352 data and it's worth talking about them Mg50vEcvrKo-00494-00127353-00127538 and highlighting them and understanding Mg50vEcvrKo-00495-00127539-00127763 open data as an important ingredient to Mg50vEcvrKo-00496-00127764-00128096 make that happen I think and it's about Mg50vEcvrKo-00497-00128097-00128276 the kind of like the outcome and data Mg50vEcvrKo-00498-00128277-00128453 what is the impact you want to achieve Mg50vEcvrKo-00499-00128454-00128699 and what's kind of like sort of where Mg50vEcvrKo-00500-00128700-00128846 are we aiming and then what kind of Mg50vEcvrKo-00501-00128847-00129050 tools are we using to actually aim to Mg50vEcvrKo-00502-00129051-00129211 that and I think open data provides a Mg50vEcvrKo-00503-00129213-00129527 very very interesting opportunities for Mg50vEcvrKo-00504-00129528-00129665 that but it's just kind of like it's Mg50vEcvrKo-00505-00129666-00129968 it's it's one tool among many others so Mg50vEcvrKo-00506-00129969-00130163 in a way like it's it's sort of like Mg50vEcvrKo-00507-00130164-00130384 thinking of what what what is wanted to Mg50vEcvrKo-00508-00130385-00130589 be achieve and then then kind of like I Mg50vEcvrKo-00509-00130590-00130775 use is the best knowledge and best Mg50vEcvrKo-00510-00130776-00131027 resources possible to go there towards Mg50vEcvrKo-00511-00131028-00132041 that when I I try it wasn't necessary in Mg50vEcvrKo-00512-00132042-00132299 this audience to use a picture of me Mg50vEcvrKo-00513-00132300-00132503 with the paper piles but it was Mg50vEcvrKo-00514-00132504-00132896 necessary to communicate with with my Mg50vEcvrKo-00515-00132897-00133055 parents Mg50vEcvrKo-00516-00133056-00133490 and their friends in the neighborhood in Mg50vEcvrKo-00517-00133491-00133877 my hometown why on earth are we doing Mg50vEcvrKo-00518-00133878-00134234 this we we had to be very concrete we Mg50vEcvrKo-00519-00134235-00134537 had to show the problem and then provide Mg50vEcvrKo-00520-00134538-00134717 the solution in order to create an Mg50vEcvrKo-00521-00134718-00135077 understanding on what can be done with Mg50vEcvrKo-00522-00135078-00135827 these tools and all all of your Mg50vEcvrKo-00523-00135828-00136172 innovators I assume are solving one or Mg50vEcvrKo-00524-00136173-00136697 more concrete problems so the more those Mg50vEcvrKo-00525-00136698-00136907 stories are told and visualized in easy Mg50vEcvrKo-00526-00136908-00137228 ways that awareness will will will Mg50vEcvrKo-00527-00137229-00137510 spread the storytelling plays an Mg50vEcvrKo-00528-00137511-00137717 important part here definitely I agree Mg50vEcvrKo-00529-00137718-00137987 and that's why I liked the picture Mg50vEcvrKo-00530-00137988-00138167 actually because it showed clearly you Mg50vEcvrKo-00531-00138168-00138350 are facing a problem and you were trying Mg50vEcvrKo-00532-00138351-00138581 to find a solution for it and in my Mg50vEcvrKo-00533-00138582-00138806 experience that usually is how things Mg50vEcvrKo-00534-00138807-00139043 happen so it's not someone who's a coder Mg50vEcvrKo-00535-00139044-00139376 and thinks what could I code it's more Mg50vEcvrKo-00536-00139377-00139616 that people do things and they face a Mg50vEcvrKo-00537-00139617-00139808 challenge and they find a solution for Mg50vEcvrKo-00538-00139809-00140084 that and yeah definitely it's very Mg50vEcvrKo-00539-00140085-00140258 important to communicate those success Mg50vEcvrKo-00540-00140259-00140774 ORS well and I have been asked so many Mg50vEcvrKo-00541-00140775-00140963 times I don't even know how many times Mg50vEcvrKo-00542-00140964-00141242 what kind of impact can we expect from Mg50vEcvrKo-00543-00141243-00141449 opening up data or opening up Mg50vEcvrKo-00544-00141450-00141689 information or even just opening up our Mg50vEcvrKo-00545-00141690-00141914 processes to allow other people to come Mg50vEcvrKo-00546-00141915-00142127 in contribute to our innovation and Mg50vEcvrKo-00547-00142128-00142408 that's why I was so happy to see that Mg50vEcvrKo-00548-00142409-00142664 you actually include some numbers on Mg50vEcvrKo-00549-00142665-00142925 that I know the ODI has been very good Mg50vEcvrKo-00550-00142926-00143153 at trying to quantify what kind of Mg50vEcvrKo-00551-00143154-00143390 change are we actually trying to make Mg50vEcvrKo-00552-00143391-00143597 here and and how does it work and also Mg50vEcvrKo-00553-00143598-00143858 you you actually showed how many teams Mg50vEcvrKo-00554-00143859-00144080 did you did you have to go through the Mg50vEcvrKo-00555-00144081-00144269 the challenges how many challenges did Mg50vEcvrKo-00556-00144270-00144458 you have and how many many prototypes Mg50vEcvrKo-00557-00144459-00144683 and products did you get out in the end Mg50vEcvrKo-00558-00144684-00144935 because apart from telling stories to Mg50vEcvrKo-00559-00144936-00145163 people who may not be interested in in Mg50vEcvrKo-00560-00145164-00145415 sort of the data the nitty-gritty parts Mg50vEcvrKo-00561-00145416-00145517 of the data itself Mg50vEcvrKo-00562-00145518-00145784 I suppose it's also important to you Mg50vEcvrKo-00563-00145785-00145946 know in order to get funding to show Mg50vEcvrKo-00564-00145947-00146201 that you're not just having fun I mean Mg50vEcvrKo-00565-00146202-00146336 it is I hope you Mg50vEcvrKo-00566-00146337-00146498 having fun it sounds like you're having Mg50vEcvrKo-00567-00146499-00146675 fun and I hope that that also goes for Mg50vEcvrKo-00568-00146676-00147026 for everybody here but you're actually Mg50vEcvrKo-00569-00147027-00147188 making some kind of change there's an Mg50vEcvrKo-00570-00147189-00147566 impact and you can somehow quantify the Mg50vEcvrKo-00571-00147567-00147785 impact and say well if we didn't open up Mg50vEcvrKo-00572-00147786-00147983 this data or if we didn't help these Mg50vEcvrKo-00573-00147984-00148181 people in this way this would not have Mg50vEcvrKo-00574-00148182-00148382 been possible like that you can show Mg50vEcvrKo-00575-00148383-00148646 that you could not have written some of Mg50vEcvrKo-00576-00148647-00148829 the stories that you wanted to write you Mg50vEcvrKo-00577-00148830-00149003 could not have exposed what was really Mg50vEcvrKo-00578-00149004-00149249 going on if you didn't have access to Mg50vEcvrKo-00579-00149250-00149543 searchable records rather than piles and Mg50vEcvrKo-00580-00149544-00149894 piles of paper do you think there's a Mg50vEcvrKo-00581-00149895-00150158 there's a challenge in in finding the Mg50vEcvrKo-00582-00150159-00150383 right way to document that this actually Mg50vEcvrKo-00583-00150384-00151403 makes a difference in in my case you can Mg50vEcvrKo-00584-00151404-00151864 quantify it by FOIA request sent or Mg50vEcvrKo-00585-00151865-00152594 stories written to keep it in in in the Mg50vEcvrKo-00586-00152595-00153641 in the media sector but I personally get Mg50vEcvrKo-00587-00153642-00153890 more and even more inspired when I see Mg50vEcvrKo-00588-00153891-00154061 that we are being used by somebody else Mg50vEcvrKo-00589-00154062-00154316 someone from the outside of my media Mg50vEcvrKo-00590-00154317-00154716 bubble and even though I have written Mg50vEcvrKo-00591-00154717-00155041 more than 100 critical articles about Mg50vEcvrKo-00592-00155042-00155264 the Armed Forces and perhaps Mg50vEcvrKo-00593-00155265-00155813 non-positive I was really glad when I Mg50vEcvrKo-00594-00155814-00156023 got my first phone call from from Mg50vEcvrKo-00595-00156024-00156206 somebody working in the arms industry Mg50vEcvrKo-00596-00156207-00156641 who was using my tool filing FOIA Mg50vEcvrKo-00597-00156642-00156890 requests to sell weapons to no region Mg50vEcvrKo-00598-00156891-00157124 Armed Forces in a more efficient way Mg50vEcvrKo-00599-00157125-00157438 because then it worked then it had been Mg50vEcvrKo-00600-00157439-00157712 spreading awareness to to to somebody Mg50vEcvrKo-00601-00157713-00158006 completely other than me and other than Mg50vEcvrKo-00602-00158007-00158554 my friends and that's good even though I Mg50vEcvrKo-00603-00158555-00158840 don't really like what he's doing Mg50vEcvrKo-00604-00158841-00159166 III see that it can be used in different Mg50vEcvrKo-00605-00159167-00159671 ways so so it's difficult to find a good Mg50vEcvrKo-00606-00159672-00159726 measure of Mg50vEcvrKo-00607-00159727-00160143 everything but but we're created in the Mg50vEcvrKo-00608-00160144-00160401 archives is one of the one of the good Mg50vEcvrKo-00609-00160402-00160986 meshes because it means practical Mg50vEcvrKo-00610-00160987-00161367 transparency yeah yeah the opening up is Mg50vEcvrKo-00611-00161368-00161508 a kind of it's it's one part of the Mg50vEcvrKo-00612-00161509-00161646 process but it's the critical part Mg50vEcvrKo-00613-00161647-00161856 because in the end that's that's where Mg50vEcvrKo-00614-00161857-00162006 it all starts that's how you can Mg50vEcvrKo-00615-00162007-00162195 actually things like that happened that Mg50vEcvrKo-00616-00162196-00162354 someone actually has the possibility Mg50vEcvrKo-00617-00162355-00162636 they use and it kind of like it has two Mg50vEcvrKo-00618-00162637-00162867 possibilities thread so in a way of Mg50vEcvrKo-00619-00162868-00163014 thinking of the industry context that's Mg50vEcvrKo-00620-00163015-00163182 the whole starting point nothing no Mg50vEcvrKo-00621-00163183-00163299 results nada Mg50vEcvrKo-00622-00163300-00163575 if there wasn't this opening up and kind Mg50vEcvrKo-00623-00163576-00163797 of like willingness to to do that an Mg50vEcvrKo-00624-00163798-00164010 experiment what could actually follow Mg50vEcvrKo-00625-00164011-00164352 from that yeah I think it's important to Mg50vEcvrKo-00626-00164353-00164529 measure what we can measure and to use Mg50vEcvrKo-00627-00164530-00164811 that also for us to kind of measure how Mg50vEcvrKo-00628-00164812-00164976 successful we are at what we're doing so Mg50vEcvrKo-00629-00164977-00165180 not only to convince the outside world Mg50vEcvrKo-00630-00165181-00165401 but also to hold ourselves to account Mg50vEcvrKo-00631-00165402-00165707 but there's a limit so we measure jobs Mg50vEcvrKo-00632-00165708-00165921 people employed by the startups we Mg50vEcvrKo-00633-00165922-00166260 incubate how much investment they Mg50vEcvrKo-00634-00166261-00166593 received and and so on but like the Mg50vEcvrKo-00635-00166594-00166776 stories you mentioned you may publish a Mg50vEcvrKo-00636-00166777-00166989 story and then you can read and you can Mg50vEcvrKo-00637-00166990-00167181 check how many people read it but that Mg50vEcvrKo-00638-00167182-00167469 only tells you so much of what an impact Mg50vEcvrKo-00639-00167470-00167652 you had because people might read the Mg50vEcvrKo-00640-00167653-00167781 story and then share it with someone Mg50vEcvrKo-00641-00167782-00167964 else they may it may influence their Mg50vEcvrKo-00642-00167965-00168123 decisions and I think their wider Mg50vEcvrKo-00643-00168124-00168366 impacts beyond the narrow things that we Mg50vEcvrKo-00644-00168367-00168552 can measure that we also need to Mg50vEcvrKo-00645-00168553-00168936 recognize and perhaps also now that Mg50vEcvrKo-00646-00168937-00169155 we've had these interesting insights Mg50vEcvrKo-00647-00169156-00169365 into how the three of you actually work Mg50vEcvrKo-00648-00169366-00169659 just hearing the story of how you make Mg50vEcvrKo-00649-00169660-00169932 things happen I mean often it of course Mg50vEcvrKo-00650-00169933-00170133 it's interesting to know what you do but Mg50vEcvrKo-00651-00170134-00170337 I think it's a lot more interesting to Mg50vEcvrKo-00652-00170338-00170535 know exactly how you do it so you Mg50vEcvrKo-00653-00170536-00170763 actually explain the mechanics that if Mg50vEcvrKo-00654-00170764-00171021 if this data was not available nobody Mg50vEcvrKo-00655-00171022-00171156 could have done anything if these Mg50vEcvrKo-00656-00171157-00171366 experts were not on hand to help Mg50vEcvrKo-00657-00171367-00171543 facilitate the process this would not 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the tech stuff do we have do you Mg50vEcvrKo-00672-00174975-00175248 like just one question for for the panel Mg50vEcvrKo-00673-00175249-00175449 from from the crowd now that you have Mg50vEcvrKo-00674-00175450-00175698 the chance otherwise we're going to Mg50vEcvrKo-00675-00175699-00176141 release you to lunch we have one Mg50vEcvrKo-00676-00176142-00176795 question Mg50vEcvrKo-00677-00176796-00177284 first just about economics figures from Mg50vEcvrKo-00678-00177285-00177733 United Kingdom your presentation was it Mg50vEcvrKo-00679-00177734-00178336 what was the year of those maybe the Mg50vEcvrKo-00680-00178337-00178865 sorry sorry uh her what was the figures Mg50vEcvrKo-00681-00178866-00179111 economic figures what was the source of Mg50vEcvrKo-00682-00179112-00179336 the year of those what your president Mg50vEcvrKo-00683-00179337-00179585 the economic figures yeah that Mg50vEcvrKo-00684-00179586-00179929 estimation was done I think in 2016 okay Mg50vEcvrKo-00685-00179930-00180818 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family spoken by 25,000 people N0IsvbIYuY4-00003-00000915-00001501 of Central Sulawesi Indonesia N0IsvbIYuY4-00004-00001502-00001802 references N2rGhUyfsCI-00000-00000000-00001726 oh it's you again I've been up to N2rGhUyfsCI-00001-00001727-00001988 surprisingly little in the last few days N2rGhUyfsCI-00002-00001989-00002317 I'm trying to be peaceful and spend time N2rGhUyfsCI-00003-00002318-00002575 reading and taking things in instead of N2rGhUyfsCI-00004-00002576-00002798 always being on the go and trying to N2rGhUyfsCI-00005-00002799-00003047 make things otherwise I'll wear myself N2rGhUyfsCI-00006-00003048-00003440 out that's maybe crushingly obvious but N2rGhUyfsCI-00007-00003440-00003631 I've managed to avoid noticing of myself N2rGhUyfsCI-00008-00003632-00004565 for years let an apple tree be planted N2rGhUyfsCI-00009-00004566-00004874 close beside a ditch of mud let its N2rGhUyfsCI-00010-00004875-00005135 roots be parched and aching ever waiting N2rGhUyfsCI-00011-00005136-00005438 for the blood so it's small and bitter N2rGhUyfsCI-00012-00005439-00005849 apples overhang the streambed dry cursed N2rGhUyfsCI-00013-00005850-00006218 to live and never flourish painful grow N2rGhUyfsCI-00014-00006219-00006784 and painful die yet this tree shall be N2rGhUyfsCI-00015-00006786-00007060 transplanted to a meadow by a stream N2rGhUyfsCI-00016-00007061-00007328 clouds shall shower down their mercies N2rGhUyfsCI-00017-00007329-00007660 sunlight throw it kindest beam roots N2rGhUyfsCI-00018-00007661-00007973 recall the feel of fullness by the river N2rGhUyfsCI-00019-00007973-00008339 in the rain branches shall be pruned and N2rGhUyfsCI-00020-00008340-00009482 ready hope and apples grow again N2rGhUyfsCI-00021-00009483-00009915 adam says happy birthday Eve Eve says N2rGhUyfsCI-00022-00009916-00011102 it's today not tomorrow N2rGhUyfsCI-00023-00011103-00011409 mitochondria are tiny living things N2rGhUyfsCI-00024-00011410-00011709 rather like bacteria they live inside N2rGhUyfsCI-00025-00011710-00011979 the cells of almost all animals plants N2rGhUyfsCI-00026-00011980-00012297 and fungi where their job is to process N2rGhUyfsCI-00027-00012298-00012534 glucose in order to provide a source of N2rGhUyfsCI-00028-00012535-00012795 power for the rest of the cell without N2rGhUyfsCI-00029-00012796-00013251 their help we wouldn't be here what N2rGhUyfsCI-00030-00013252-00013461 fascinates me particularly about N2rGhUyfsCI-00031-00013462-00013691 mitochondria is that they have their own N2rGhUyfsCI-00032-00013693-00013980 DNA which is not at all like human DNA N2rGhUyfsCI-00033-00013981-00014229 much more like the DNA of bacteria N2rGhUyfsCI-00034-00014230-00014451 they're essentially a different creature N2rGhUyfsCI-00035-00014452-00014741 and because you inherit all your N2rGhUyfsCI-00036-00014743-00014969 mitochondria only from your mother N2rGhUyfsCI-00037-00014969-00015237 mitochondrial DNA is very useful in N2rGhUyfsCI-00038-00015238-00015636 tracing your ancestry so how did we come N2rGhUyfsCI-00039-00015637-00015828 to have these creatures living inside N2rGhUyfsCI-00040-00015829-00016091 our cells the most commonly accepted N2rGhUyfsCI-00041-00016093-00016401 explanation is that two billion years N2rGhUyfsCI-00042-00016402-00016619 ago when complex cells were just N2rGhUyfsCI-00043-00016620-00016884 starting out the mitochondria discovered N2rGhUyfsCI-00044-00016885-00017052 that the cells were a good place to live N2rGhUyfsCI-00045-00017053-00017277 inside there's lots of glucose to feed N2rGhUyfsCI-00046-00017278-00017508 on it was just as useful for the cell N2rGhUyfsCI-00047-00017509-00017714 which needed the glucose processed N2rGhUyfsCI-00048-00017715-00018057 symbiosis the mitochondria hitched a N2rGhUyfsCI-00049-00018058-00018287 lift and they've been with us ever since N2rGhUyfsCI-00050-00018288-00018569 so even when you think you're alone N2rGhUyfsCI-00051-00018570-00018905 remember you're also a sort of walking N2rGhUyfsCI-00052-00018906-00019953 mitochondrial City a birthday by N2rGhUyfsCI-00053-00019954-00020310 Christina Rossetti my heart is like a N2rGhUyfsCI-00054-00020311-00020592 singing bird whose nest is in a watered N2rGhUyfsCI-00055-00020593-00020856 shoot my heart is like an apple tree N2rGhUyfsCI-00056-00020857-00021057 whose boughs are bent with fixed set N2rGhUyfsCI-00057-00021058-00021360 fruit my heart is like a rainbow shell N2rGhUyfsCI-00058-00021361-00021687 that paddles in a healthy on see my N2rGhUyfsCI-00059-00021688-00021975 heart is glad ur than all these because N2rGhUyfsCI-00060-00021976-00022425 my love is come to me raise me a dais of N2rGhUyfsCI-00061-00022426-00022689 silk and down hang it with their and N2rGhUyfsCI-00062-00022690-00022974 purple dies carve it in dubs and N2rGhUyfsCI-00063-00022975-00023253 pomegranates and peacocks with a hundred N2rGhUyfsCI-00064-00023254-00023562 eyes work it in gold and silver grapes N2rGhUyfsCI-00065-00023563-00023837 and leaves and silver fleur-de-lis N2rGhUyfsCI-00066-00023838-00024195 because the birthday of my life is N2rGhUyfsCI-00067-00024196-00024651 my love is coming to me see you next N2rGhUyfsCI-00068-00024652-00024876 time N3LTbcfyeJU-00000-00000077-00000438 from New York City it's the cube N3LTbcfyeJU-00001-00000440-00000705 covering welcome to the new edge N3LTbcfyeJU-00002-00000706-00001121 brought to you by pensando systems hey N3LTbcfyeJU-00003-00001122-00001250 welcome back here ready Jeff Rick here N3LTbcfyeJU-00004-00001251-00001373 with the cube we are in downtown N3LTbcfyeJU-00005-00001374-00001570 Manhattan at the top of goldman sachs it N3LTbcfyeJU-00006-00001571-00001708 was a beautiful day now the clouds N3LTbcfyeJU-00007-00001709-00001873 coming in but that's appropriate because N3LTbcfyeJU-00008-00001874-00002008 we're talking about cloud we're talking N3LTbcfyeJU-00009-00002009-00002209 about edge and the launch of a brand new N3LTbcfyeJU-00010-00002210-00002401 company is pensando and their event it's N3LTbcfyeJU-00011-00002402-00002560 called welcome to the new edge and we're N3LTbcfyeJU-00012-00002561-00002767 happy to have since we're goldman the N3LTbcfyeJU-00013-00002768-00002968 guys who have the money N3LTbcfyeJU-00014-00002969-00003211 we're barry Eggers a founding partner of N3LTbcfyeJU-00015-00003213-00003434 Lightspeed ventures and randy pond the N3LTbcfyeJU-00016-00003435-00003697 CFO a pensando gentlemen welcome thank N3LTbcfyeJU-00017-00003699-00003908 you thank you so Barry let's start with N3LTbcfyeJU-00018-00003909-00004064 you you think you were involved at this N3LTbcfyeJU-00019-00004065-00004484 early on why did you get involved what N3LTbcfyeJU-00020-00004485-00004691 what kind of sparked your interest we N3LTbcfyeJU-00021-00004692-00004964 got involved in this round and the N3LTbcfyeJU-00022-00004965-00005165 reason we got involved were mainly N3LTbcfyeJU-00023-00005166-00005333 because we've worked with this team N3LTbcfyeJU-00024-00005334-00005504 before at Cisco we know they're N3LTbcfyeJU-00025-00005505-00005693 fantastic they're probably the most N3LTbcfyeJU-00026-00005694-00005971 prolific team and the enterprise and N3LTbcfyeJU-00027-00005972-00006233 they're going after a big opportunity so N3LTbcfyeJU-00028-00006234-00006403 we were pleased when the company said N3LTbcfyeJU-00029-00006404-00006529 hey you guys want to work with us on N3LTbcfyeJU-00030-00006530-00006770 this as a financial investor and we did N3LTbcfyeJU-00031-00006770-00007084 some diligence and dug in and found you N3LTbcfyeJU-00032-00007085-00007223 know everything to our liking and jump N3LTbcfyeJU-00033-00007223-00007373 right in didn't anybody tell them this N3LTbcfyeJU-00034-00007373-00007660 startup is a young man's game they mixed N3LTbcfyeJU-00035-00007661-00007895 up the twenty-something I think yeah N3LTbcfyeJU-00036-00007895-00008123 they sort of turned the startup on its N3LTbcfyeJU-00037-00008123-00008423 head if you will no pun intended that's N3LTbcfyeJU-00038-00008424-00008630 going right yeah yeah and Randy you've N3LTbcfyeJU-00039-00008631-00008801 joined him a CFO you've known them for a N3LTbcfyeJU-00040-00008802-00008984 while I mean what is it about this group N3LTbcfyeJU-00041-00008985-00009292 of people that execute kind of N3LTbcfyeJU-00042-00009293-00009458 forward-looking transformation N3LTbcfyeJU-00043-00009459-00009670 transformational technologies time and N3LTbcfyeJU-00044-00009671-00009827 time again that's not a very common N3LTbcfyeJU-00045-00009828-00009985 trait it's a it's a great question so N3LTbcfyeJU-00046-00009986-00010135 you know the key for these guys have N3LTbcfyeJU-00047-00010136-00010252 been well they've been together since N3LTbcfyeJU-00048-00010253-00010513 the 80s so Mario look and primitive this N3LTbcfyeJU-00049-00010514-00010720 is the 80s I work with them at their N3LTbcfyeJU-00050-00010721-00010934 previous startup before Christian two N3LTbcfyeJU-00051-00010935-00011191 ladies and they're the combination of N3LTbcfyeJU-00052-00011192-00011371 their skills are phenomenal together so N3LTbcfyeJU-00053-00011372-00011519 you know one of them has some of the N3LTbcfyeJU-00054-00011520-00011641 vision of where they want to go the N3LTbcfyeJU-00055-00011642-00011812 second guy is a substantive sort of N3LTbcfyeJU-00056-00011813-00012112 engineer takes it from concept first N3LTbcfyeJU-00057-00012113-00012331 drawing and then the Prem takes over the N3LTbcfyeJU-00058-00012332-00012473 execution perspective and then drives N3LTbcfyeJU-00059-00012474-00012585 this thing and they've really been N3LTbcfyeJU-00060-00012586-00012758 incredible together and then we added N3LTbcfyeJU-00061-00012759-00013001 Sony at crescendo as a as a product N3LTbcfyeJU-00062-00013002-00013172 marketing person and she's really N3LTbcfyeJU-00063-00013172-00013284 stepped up and become N3LTbcfyeJU-00064-00013285-00013443 integral part on the team so they work N3LTbcfyeJU-00065-00013444-00013653 together so well it just makes a huge N3LTbcfyeJU-00066-00013654-00013866 difference yeah it's it's it's amazing N3LTbcfyeJU-00067-00013866-00014082 that that a that they keep doing it and N3LTbcfyeJU-00068-00014083-00014232 B that they want to keep doing it N3LTbcfyeJU-00069-00014233-00014379 right because they've got a few bucks in N3LTbcfyeJU-00070-00014380-00014532 the bank and they don't really need to N3LTbcfyeJU-00071-00014533-00014691 do it but still to take on a big N3LTbcfyeJU-00072-00014691-00014805 challenge and then to keep it under N3LTbcfyeJU-00073-00014806-00014979 wraps for two and a half years that's N3LTbcfyeJU-00074-00014980-00015255 pretty pretty amazing so curious Barry N3LTbcfyeJU-00075-00015256-00015378 from your point of view venture N3LTbcfyeJU-00076-00015379-00015483 investing you guys kind of see the N3LTbcfyeJU-00077-00015484-00015612 future you get pitched by smart people N3LTbcfyeJU-00078-00015613-00015927 all day when you looked at John Chambers N3LTbcfyeJU-00079-00015928-00016101 kind of conversation of these ten-year N3LTbcfyeJU-00080-00016102-00016434 kind of big cycles you know what did you N3LTbcfyeJU-00081-00016435-00016482 think of that N3LTbcfyeJU-00082-00016483-00016701 how do you guys kind of slice and dice N3LTbcfyeJU-00083-00016702-00016851 your opportunities and looking at these N3LTbcfyeJU-00084-00016852-00017094 big Nick's yeah going back going back to N3LTbcfyeJU-00085-00017095-00017223 the team a little bit they've been N3LTbcfyeJU-00086-00017224-00017394 pretty good at identifying a lot of N3LTbcfyeJU-00087-00017395-00017517 these cycles they brought us land N3LTbcfyeJU-00088-00017518-00017754 switching a long time ago with crescendo N3LTbcfyeJU-00089-00017755-00018138 they sort of redefined the data center N3LTbcfyeJU-00090-00018139-00018285 several times and so there's another N3LTbcfyeJU-00091-00018286-00018447 opportunity what's driving this N3LTbcfyeJU-00092-00018448-00018731 opportunity really is the fact that N3LTbcfyeJU-00093-00018732-00019002 explosion of applications in the network N3LTbcfyeJU-00094-00019003-00019179 and of course east-west traffic in the N3LTbcfyeJU-00095-00019180-00019383 network so networks were more designed N3LTbcfyeJU-00096-00019384-00019605 north-south and they're slowly becoming N3LTbcfyeJU-00097-00019606-00019854 more east-west but because the N3LTbcfyeJU-00098-00019855-00020109 applications are closer to the edge and N3LTbcfyeJU-00099-00020110-00020349 networks today mostly provide services N3LTbcfyeJU-00100-00020350-00020601 in the core the idea for pensando is N3LTbcfyeJU-00101-00020602-00020748 well why don't we bring the service N3LTbcfyeJU-00102-00020749-00020916 deliver the services closer to the N3LTbcfyeJU-00103-00020917-00021126 applications improve performance better N3LTbcfyeJU-00104-00021127-00021417 security and better monitoring yeah and N3LTbcfyeJU-00105-00021418-00021546 then just the just the hyper N3LTbcfyeJU-00106-00021547-00021738 acceleration of you know the amount of N3LTbcfyeJU-00107-00021739-00021921 data the amount of applications and then N3LTbcfyeJU-00108-00021922-00022113 this age-old it's we're going to use the N3LTbcfyeJU-00109-00022114-00022296 data to the computer do you move the N3LTbcfyeJU-00110-00022297-00022449 compute to the data now the answer is N3LTbcfyeJU-00111-00022450-00022995 yes all the above so you got some money N3LTbcfyeJU-00112-00022996-00023331 to work with we do you got a round that N3LTbcfyeJU-00113-00023332-00023475 he could be around you guys are closing N3LTbcfyeJU-00114-00023476-00023780 the C round so I think 180 people N3LTbcfyeJU-00115-00023781-00023973 approximately I think somebody told me N3LTbcfyeJU-00116-00023974-00024258 close enough so as you put some of this N3LTbcfyeJU-00117-00024259-00024435 capital to work what are some of your N3LTbcfyeJU-00118-00024436-00024648 priorities going forward so we will N3LTbcfyeJU-00119-00024649-00024897 continue to hire both in the engineering N3LTbcfyeJU-00120-00024898-00025017 side but more importantly now we're N3LTbcfyeJU-00121-00025018-00025203 hiring in sales and service we've been N3LTbcfyeJU-00122-00025204-00025359 waiting for the product quite frankly so N3LTbcfyeJU-00123-00025360-00025500 we've just got our first few sales guys N3LTbcfyeJU-00124-00025501-00025680 hired we've got a pretty aggressive ramp N3LTbcfyeJU-00125-00025681-00025928 especially with the HP relationship to N3LTbcfyeJU-00126-00025929-00026043 put people out into the field we've N3LTbcfyeJU-00127-00026044-00026163 hired a couple guys in New York will N3LTbcfyeJU-00128-00026164-00026361 continue to hire at the sales team we're N3LTbcfyeJU-00129-00026362-00026546 ramping the supply chain and we've got a N3LTbcfyeJU-00130-00026547-00026610 relative N3LTbcfyeJU-00131-00026611-00026748 complicated supply chain model but that N3LTbcfyeJU-00132-00026749-00026877 has to react now that we're going to N3LTbcfyeJU-00133-00026877-00027065 market all that might be pretty used to N3LTbcfyeJU-00134-00027066-00027270 do that we're changing facilities we N3LTbcfyeJU-00135-00027270-00027507 need to grow we're sort of cramped in a N3LTbcfyeJU-00136-00027508-00027720 one-story building open up one floor of N3LTbcfyeJU-00137-00027720-00027876 a building right now so the money is N3LTbcfyeJU-00138-00027877-00028017 going to be used sort of critically to N3LTbcfyeJU-00139-00028018-00028199 really scale the business down they can N3LTbcfyeJU-00140-00028200-00028346 go to market okay but a pretty N3LTbcfyeJU-00141-00028347-00028661 impressive list of both partners and N3LTbcfyeJU-00142-00028662-00028870 customers on launch day you don't see N3LTbcfyeJU-00143-00028871-00029355 Goldman HPE Equinix I think it was quite N3LTbcfyeJU-00144-00029356-00029537 a slide some of that is the uniqueness N3LTbcfyeJU-00145-00029538-00029892 of the way we went to market and did the N3LTbcfyeJU-00146-00029893-00030060 original due diligence on the product N3LTbcfyeJU-00147-00030061-00030282 and bringing customers in early and then N3LTbcfyeJU-00148-00030283-00030452 converting them to investors you end up N3LTbcfyeJU-00149-00030453-00030645 with a customer investment model so they N3LTbcfyeJU-00150-00030645-00030818 stayed with us Goldman's been through N3LTbcfyeJU-00151-00030819-00031005 all three rounds we've been about HP and N3LTbcfyeJU-00152-00031006-00031214 last model we had NetApp has been um two N3LTbcfyeJU-00153-00031215-00031407 rounds now so we've we've continued to N3LTbcfyeJU-00154-00031408-00031623 develop as a business with this small N3LTbcfyeJU-00155-00031624-00031758 core group of customers and investors N3LTbcfyeJU-00156-00031758-00031964 that we could try to expand every time N3LTbcfyeJU-00157-00031965-00032096 we move to the next round and as Barry N3LTbcfyeJU-00158-00032097-00032255 said earlier this is the first time we N3LTbcfyeJU-00159-00032256-00032474 had a traditional financial investor in N3LTbcfyeJU-00160-00032475-00032604 our rounds the rest of them have all N3LTbcfyeJU-00161-00032605-00032730 been customers they've been friends and N3LTbcfyeJU-00162-00032731-00032990 family for the most part did you join N3LTbcfyeJU-00163-00032991-00033308 the board too right I did yeah so what N3LTbcfyeJU-00164-00033309-00033455 are you what are you excited about what N3LTbcfyeJU-00165-00033456-00033699 what do you see is I mean just clearly N3LTbcfyeJU-00166-00033700-00033986 your side you invested but is there N3LTbcfyeJU-00167-00033987-00034248 something just extra special here you N3LTbcfyeJU-00168-00034249-00034283 know N3LTbcfyeJU-00169-00034284-00034511 react chambers put in a 10-year 10-year N3LTbcfyeJU-00170-00034512-00034698 cycle yeah we've talked about it I mean N3LTbcfyeJU-00171-00034699-00034923 I'm excited to work with the team right N3LTbcfyeJU-00172-00034924-00035240 there best-in-class working closely with N3LTbcfyeJU-00173-00035241-00035567 John again is a lot of fun a chance to N3LTbcfyeJU-00174-00035568-00036017 not exhaust yeah yeah you know a chance N3LTbcfyeJU-00175-00036018-00036296 to read redefine the data center and be N3LTbcfyeJU-00176-00036297-00036470 part of the next way even as a VC you N3LTbcfyeJU-00177-00036471-00036726 love waves and build my Connick company N3LTbcfyeJU-00178-00036727-00036899 right and I think we have a real N3LTbcfyeJU-00179-00036900-00037110 opportunity in front of us it it takes a N3LTbcfyeJU-00180-00037111-00037311 lot of money to do this and do it right N3LTbcfyeJU-00181-00037312-00037557 and I think we have the team that proven N3LTbcfyeJU-00182-00037558-00037727 they can execute on this kind of N3LTbcfyeJU-00183-00037728-00037929 opportunities from I'm excited to see N3LTbcfyeJU-00184-00037930-00038070 what the next five years hold for this N3LTbcfyeJU-00185-00038071-00038270 company good well it was funny John N3LTbcfyeJU-00186-00038271-00038468 teased him a little bit about you know N3LTbcfyeJU-00187-00038469-00038661 all the M&A stuff that he was famous for N3LTbcfyeJU-00188-00038662-00038805 at Cisco he's like I don't do that N3LTbcfyeJU-00189-00038806-00039002 anymore now I'm an investor I want IPOs N3LTbcfyeJU-00190-00039003-00039270 all the way what's all 18 thinks it is N3LTbcfyeJU-00191-00039271-00039411 18 companies in his portfolio their N3LTbcfyeJU-00192-00039412-00039585 routes they're going to IPO all the way N3LTbcfyeJU-00193-00039586-00039869 yeah that's that's a good point actually N3LTbcfyeJU-00194-00039870-00040169 this team has been prolific and they've N3LTbcfyeJU-00195-00040170-00040355 delivered products that have generated N3LTbcfyeJU-00196-00040356-00040655 fifty billion dollars and any walk into N3LTbcfyeJU-00197-00040656-00040793 any data center in the world you're N3LTbcfyeJU-00198-00040794-00041036 gonna see a product this team has built N3LTbcfyeJU-00199-00041037-00041294 however this team has not taken a N3LTbcfyeJU-00200-00041295-00041450 company public so that's really the N3LTbcfyeJU-00201-00041451-00041582 opportunity I think that's what excites N3LTbcfyeJU-00202-00041583-00041855 them Randy's here it's why Jon's here N3LTbcfyeJU-00203-00041856-00041966 that's why I'm here N3LTbcfyeJU-00204-00041967-00042131 we want to build a company that can be N3LTbcfyeJU-00205-00042132-00042287 an independent company be a lasting N3LTbcfyeJU-00206-00042288-00042602 leader in a new category yeah so last N3LTbcfyeJU-00207-00042603-00042914 word Randy for you for people that N3LTbcfyeJU-00208-00042915-00043040 aren't familiar with the team that N3LTbcfyeJU-00209-00043041-00043199 aren't familiar with with with what N3LTbcfyeJU-00210-00043200-00043376 they've done what would you tell them N3LTbcfyeJU-00211-00043377-00043625 about why you came to this opportunity N3LTbcfyeJU-00212-00043626-00043733 and why you're excited about it N3LTbcfyeJU-00213-00043734-00043997 well this there is no higher quality N3LTbcfyeJU-00214-00043998-00044141 engineering team in the world didn't N3LTbcfyeJU-00215-00044142-00044459 these people so it's to get re-engaged N3LTbcfyeJU-00216-00044460-00044672 with them again with an entirely new N3LTbcfyeJU-00217-00044673-00044906 concept that's catching a transition and N3LTbcfyeJU-00218-00044907-00045008 the market was just too good an N3LTbcfyeJU-00219-00045009-00045232 opportunity to pass I mean I had retired N3LTbcfyeJU-00220-00045233-00045506 for 15 months and I came out of N3LTbcfyeJU-00221-00045507-00045668 retirement to join this team much to the N3LTbcfyeJU-00222-00045669-00045914 chagrin of my wife but I just couldn't N3LTbcfyeJU-00223-00045915-00046322 pass up the opportunity high caliber N3LTbcfyeJU-00224-00046323-00046538 talent it's um every day is is N3LTbcfyeJU-00225-00046539-00046763 interesting I have to say well thanks N3LTbcfyeJU-00226-00046764-00046955 for for sharing the story with us and N3LTbcfyeJU-00227-00046956-00047153 and congratulations on a great day and N3LTbcfyeJU-00228-00047154-00047315 in a terrific event thank you thank you N3LTbcfyeJU-00229-00047316-00047366 very much N3LTbcfyeJU-00230-00047367-00047519 all right he's berry he's Randy I'm Jeff N3LTbcfyeJU-00231-00047520-00047702 you're watching the cube from the top of N3LTbcfyeJU-00232-00047703-00047855 goldman sachs in Manhattan thanks for N3LTbcfyeJU-00233-00047856-00048137 watching we'll see you next time N6FUfY84B50-00000-00000079-00000304 food N6FUfY84B50-00001-00000305-00002895 [Music] N6FUfY84B50-00002-00002896-00003561 uh N6FUfY84B50-00003-00003561-00003678 [Music] N6FUfY84B50-00004-00003679-00003833 [Applause] N6FUfY84B50-00005-00003834-00005332 [Music] N6FUfY84B50-00006-00005333-00005481 [Applause] N6FUfY84B50-00007-00005482-00005799 [Music] N6FUfY84B50-00008-00005800-00006695 me N6FUfY84B50-00009-00006697-00009004 [Music] N6FUfY84B50-00010-00009005-00009287 [Applause] N6FUfY84B50-00011-00009288-00009588 hmm N8dwalT1SCU-00000-00000055-00000647 [Music] N8dwalT1SCU-00001-00000648-00000790 welcome back to the cube's coverage of N8dwalT1SCU-00002-00000791-00001007 red hat summit 21 virtual N8dwalT1SCU-00003-00001008-00001158 i'm john furrier host of thecube we got N8dwalT1SCU-00004-00001159-00001343 two great guests here returning back N8dwalT1SCU-00005-00001344-00001495 cube alumni is here to give us their N8dwalT1SCU-00006-00001496-00001679 perspective dave lindquist gm N8dwalT1SCU-00007-00001680-00001863 vp of engineering hybrid cloud N8dwalT1SCU-00008-00001864-00002039 management red hat joe fitzgerald N8dwalT1SCU-00009-00002039-00002183 general manager and vp of N8dwalT1SCU-00010-00002184-00002342 the management business unit red hat N8dwalT1SCU-00011-00002343-00002487 guys welcome back to the cube N8dwalT1SCU-00012-00002488-00002671 congratulations red hat summit's ongoing N8dwalT1SCU-00013-00002672-00002750 virtual N8dwalT1SCU-00014-00002751-00003071 great to see you thank you john thanks N8dwalT1SCU-00015-00003072-00003118 joe N8dwalT1SCU-00016-00003119-00003327 so love to get the low down a lot going N8dwalT1SCU-00017-00003328-00003503 on the productivity this year N8dwalT1SCU-00018-00003504-00003799 looking back from last year a lot's been N8dwalT1SCU-00019-00003800-00004006 done we've been in the pandemic now N8dwalT1SCU-00020-00004007-00004263 now circling back a full year a lot's N8dwalT1SCU-00021-00004264-00004431 happened a lot of productivity a lot of N8dwalT1SCU-00022-00004432-00004551 clear visibility on N8dwalT1SCU-00023-00004552-00004759 on what's working what's not you guys N8dwalT1SCU-00024-00004760-00004902 got some great news let's just jump N8dwalT1SCU-00025-00004903-00004999 right into it N8dwalT1SCU-00026-00005000-00005311 what's the big announcement N8dwalT1SCU-00027-00005312-00005422 so one of the things that we announced N8dwalT1SCU-00028-00005423-00005622 here at summit john is an expansion of N8dwalT1SCU-00029-00005623-00005735 our red hat insights N8dwalT1SCU-00030-00005736-00006022 brand uh basically we announced red hat N8dwalT1SCU-00031-00006023-00006167 insights for our rel N8dwalT1SCU-00032-00006168-00006495 platform back in 2015. um over the years N8dwalT1SCU-00033-00006495-00006631 we've increased the amount of data and N8dwalT1SCU-00034-00006631-00006823 visibility into those systems N8dwalT1SCU-00035-00006823-00006998 here at summit we've now announced red N8dwalT1SCU-00036-00007000-00007214 hat insights for both openshift N8dwalT1SCU-00037-00007215-00007398 and for the red hat ansible platform so N8dwalT1SCU-00038-00007400-00007551 it's a pretty significant N8dwalT1SCU-00039-00007552-00007742 increase in the visibility that we have N8dwalT1SCU-00040-00007743-00007919 to the platforms oh so can you repeat N8dwalT1SCU-00041-00007920-00008119 that one more time so the expansion is N8dwalT1SCU-00042-00008120-00008263 through which platform style N8dwalT1SCU-00043-00008264-00008446 specifically N8dwalT1SCU-00044-00008447-00008599 so red hat insights is a way that we N8dwalT1SCU-00045-00008600-00008807 connect up to different platforms N8dwalT1SCU-00046-00008808-00009006 that red hat provides historically it N8dwalT1SCU-00047-00009007-00009231 was for red hat enterprise linux or rel N8dwalT1SCU-00048-00009232-00009391 we've now expanded it to the red hat N8dwalT1SCU-00049-00009392-00009623 openshift family platforms N8dwalT1SCU-00050-00009624-00009831 as well as the red hat ansible N8dwalT1SCU-00051-00009832-00010023 automation platform as well N8dwalT1SCU-00052-00010024-00010214 so nice broad expansion people want that N8dwalT1SCU-00053-00010215-00010391 data what's what was the motivation N8dwalT1SCU-00054-00010392-00010478 behind it was it N8dwalT1SCU-00055-00010479-00010687 uh customer demand was it more access to N8dwalT1SCU-00056-00010688-00010791 the data N8dwalT1SCU-00057-00010792-00010967 just was it on the roadmap what's the N8dwalT1SCU-00058-00010968-00011174 motivation where is this going what's N8dwalT1SCU-00059-00011175-00011319 what's the purpose N8dwalT1SCU-00060-00011320-00011535 of all this well i don't think customers N8dwalT1SCU-00061-00011536-00011710 say hey please you know take more data i N8dwalT1SCU-00062-00011711-00011774 think it's N8dwalT1SCU-00063-00011775-00011974 customers say can you keep me more N8dwalT1SCU-00064-00011975-00012183 secure can you keep my systems more N8dwalT1SCU-00065-00012184-00012327 optimized can you help me N8dwalT1SCU-00066-00012328-00012583 set more things to automatic and that N8dwalT1SCU-00067-00012584-00012727 requires that you get data from these N8dwalT1SCU-00068-00012728-00012919 systems so that you can auto tune auto N8dwalT1SCU-00069-00012919-00012974 secure N8dwalT1SCU-00070-00012975-00013215 auto optimize right so it's really all N8dwalT1SCU-00071-00013216-00013415 those benefits that we N8dwalT1SCU-00072-00013416-00013575 get by connecting to these systems N8dwalT1SCU-00073-00013576-00013711 bringing the telemetry the data the N8dwalT1SCU-00074-00013712-00013791 config N8dwalT1SCU-00075-00013791-00013951 different kinds of information and using N8dwalT1SCU-00076-00013952-00014143 that on the customer behalf to optimize N8dwalT1SCU-00077-00014144-00014303 secured to those systems N8dwalT1SCU-00078-00014304-00014438 you know one of the biggest trends i N8dwalT1SCU-00079-00014440-00014583 think now for multiple years has been N8dwalT1SCU-00080-00014584-00014711 observability N8dwalT1SCU-00081-00014712-00014903 um with cloud native more services are N8dwalT1SCU-00082-00014904-00015055 being turned on and off N8dwalT1SCU-00083-00015056-00015222 enterprises are getting a lot of N8dwalT1SCU-00084-00015223-00015391 pressure to be modern in their N8dwalT1SCU-00085-00015391-00015519 in their application development N8dwalT1SCU-00086-00015519-00015766 processes why is data more important N8dwalT1SCU-00087-00015768-00015911 than ever now can you guys take a minute N8dwalT1SCU-00088-00015912-00016063 and expand on that because N8dwalT1SCU-00089-00016063-00016230 this idea of telemetry across the N8dwalT1SCU-00090-00016231-00016415 platform is a very interesting N8dwalT1SCU-00091-00016416-00016791 um announcement because you're turning N8dwalT1SCU-00092-00016792-00017055 that data into value but can you guys N8dwalT1SCU-00093-00017056-00017222 explain where's that value N8dwalT1SCU-00094-00017223-00017447 coming turning into what is the value N8dwalT1SCU-00095-00017448-00017583 proposition N8dwalT1SCU-00096-00017584-00017903 where are people seeing the the key N8dwalT1SCU-00097-00017904-00018263 key value points well a couple of points N8dwalT1SCU-00098-00018264-00018375 john N8dwalT1SCU-00099-00018376-00018743 as you started out is in in a hybrid N8dwalT1SCU-00100-00018744-00018911 cloud environment with N8dwalT1SCU-00101-00018912-00019094 cloud native applications and a lot of N8dwalT1SCU-00102-00019095-00019294 application modernization N8dwalT1SCU-00103-00019295-00019599 and um the current progressiveness of N8dwalT1SCU-00104-00019600-00019807 devops and sre teams you're seeing a lot N8dwalT1SCU-00105-00019808-00019943 of dynamics N8dwalT1SCU-00106-00019944-00020214 in workloads and continuous delivery and N8dwalT1SCU-00107-00020215-00020375 deployments that are in N8dwalT1SCU-00108-00020376-00020543 public environments and private N8dwalT1SCU-00109-00020544-00020775 environments distributed models N8dwalT1SCU-00110-00020776-00020991 and so consequently there's a lot of N8dwalT1SCU-00111-00020992-00021207 change in dynamics in the environment so N8dwalT1SCU-00112-00021208-00021511 to sustain these high levels of N8dwalT1SCU-00113-00021512-00021750 service levels to sustain the security N8dwalT1SCU-00114-00021751-00021871 of the compliance N8dwalT1SCU-00115-00021872-00022119 the ability to gather data from all N8dwalT1SCU-00116-00022120-00022271 these different points to be able to get N8dwalT1SCU-00117-00022272-00022455 visibility into that data N8dwalT1SCU-00118-00022456-00022678 to be able the ability to process that N8dwalT1SCU-00119-00022679-00022822 with various analytics N8dwalT1SCU-00120-00022823-00022991 and understand what when something's N8dwalT1SCU-00121-00022992-00023199 gone wrong or when an update is needed N8dwalT1SCU-00122-00023200-00023463 or when a configuration is drifted is N8dwalT1SCU-00123-00023464-00023607 increasingly critical N8dwalT1SCU-00124-00023608-00023894 in a hybrid cloud environment so on the N8dwalT1SCU-00125-00023895-00024022 telemetry piece N8dwalT1SCU-00126-00024023-00024303 is that in open shift as well that N8dwalT1SCU-00127-00024304-00024414 that's supporting that is N8dwalT1SCU-00128-00024415-00024767 in there how does that work N8dwalT1SCU-00129-00024768-00025103 it's it's in openshift as joe mentioned N8dwalT1SCU-00130-00025104-00025430 it's in rel it's in we have feeds from N8dwalT1SCU-00131-00025431-00025575 ansible N8dwalT1SCU-00132-00025576-00025855 in the openshift space we have an N8dwalT1SCU-00133-00025856-00025974 offering N8dwalT1SCU-00134-00025975-00026167 advanced cluster management that N8dwalT1SCU-00135-00026168-00026302 understands fleets N8dwalT1SCU-00136-00026304-00026583 of deployments clusters wherever they're N8dwalT1SCU-00137-00026583-00026655 deployed N8dwalT1SCU-00138-00026656-00026887 however they're running infrastructure N8dwalT1SCU-00139-00026888-00027062 public private hybrid environments and N8dwalT1SCU-00140-00027063-00027270 it also collects in the context N8dwalT1SCU-00141-00027272-00027495 of the workloads uh that are deployed on N8dwalT1SCU-00142-00027495-00027646 those on those clusters the N8dwalT1SCU-00143-00027647-00027799 multi-cluster environment N8dwalT1SCU-00144-00027800-00027967 i want to ask you guys a question i get N8dwalT1SCU-00145-00027968-00028102 this all the time on the cube hey you N8dwalT1SCU-00146-00028104-00028143 know N8dwalT1SCU-00147-00028144-00028327 i need more data i have multiple systems N8dwalT1SCU-00148-00028327-00028511 i need to pull that data into one N8dwalT1SCU-00149-00028512-00028774 kind of control plane but i'm being N8dwalT1SCU-00150-00028775-00028967 pushed more and more to keep scaling N8dwalT1SCU-00151-00028968-00029231 operations and this becomes a huge N8dwalT1SCU-00152-00029232-00029367 question mark for N8dwalT1SCU-00153-00029368-00029583 the enterprises because they they have N8dwalT1SCU-00154-00029583-00029718 to turn up more N8dwalT1SCU-00155-00029719-00029999 more scale so this is becomes a data N8dwalT1SCU-00156-00030000-00030087 problem N8dwalT1SCU-00157-00030088-00030262 does this solve it here how do you guys N8dwalT1SCU-00158-00030263-00030407 answer that and what was what would be N8dwalT1SCU-00159-00030408-00030662 your response to that trend N8dwalT1SCU-00160-00030663-00030935 well i think the um the you know thirst N8dwalT1SCU-00161-00030936-00031055 for data N8dwalT1SCU-00162-00031056-00031239 right there's a lot of things you can do N8dwalT1SCU-00163-00031239-00031455 with more data there is a point where N8dwalT1SCU-00164-00031456-00031527 you can't ship N8dwalT1SCU-00165-00031527-00031711 all the data everywhere right if you N8dwalT1SCU-00166-00031712-00031879 think about logs and metrics and all the N8dwalT1SCU-00167-00031880-00031958 data N8dwalT1SCU-00168-00031960-00032127 it's too heavy weight to move everything N8dwalT1SCU-00169-00032127-00032327 everywhere right so part of it is N8dwalT1SCU-00170-00032327-00032495 you know selecting the kind of data that N8dwalT1SCU-00171-00032495-00032735 you're going to get from these systems N8dwalT1SCU-00172-00032736-00032862 and the purpose you're going to use it N8dwalT1SCU-00173-00032863-00033046 for and in the case of red hat we take N8dwalT1SCU-00174-00033047-00033174 data from these different systems N8dwalT1SCU-00175-00033175-00033359 regardless of where they're deployed N8dwalT1SCU-00176-00033360-00033502 bring it in and then we do predictive N8dwalT1SCU-00177-00033503-00033662 analytics against that data N8dwalT1SCU-00178-00033663-00033855 and we use that telemetry that can take N8dwalT1SCU-00179-00033856-00033983 that health data N8dwalT1SCU-00180-00033984-00034262 right to do everything from optimize for N8dwalT1SCU-00181-00034263-00034343 performance N8dwalT1SCU-00182-00034344-00034655 or security cost things like that but N8dwalT1SCU-00183-00034656-00034807 we're not moving N8dwalT1SCU-00184-00034808-00035007 you know huge quantities of data from N8dwalT1SCU-00185-00035008-00035255 every system to red hat in order to you N8dwalT1SCU-00186-00035256-00035302 know N8dwalT1SCU-00187-00035303-00035551 pour through it we are very selectively N8dwalT1SCU-00188-00035552-00035639 moving N8dwalT1SCU-00189-00035640-00035871 um certain kinds of data for very N8dwalT1SCU-00190-00035872-00036102 specific purposes N8dwalT1SCU-00191-00036103-00036239 dave what's your take on that because N8dwalT1SCU-00192-00036240-00036351 you know you got to engineer these N8dwalT1SCU-00193-00036352-00036527 systems what's the optimized path for N8dwalT1SCU-00194-00036528-00036630 data do you N8dwalT1SCU-00195-00036631-00036879 you keep it in silo do you bring it N8dwalT1SCU-00196-00036880-00037118 together what's the customer's view on N8dwalT1SCU-00197-00037119-00037439 on how to deal with the data N8dwalT1SCU-00198-00037440-00037702 yeah it's a complex problem no doubt you N8dwalT1SCU-00199-00037703-00037974 don't want to be pulling all the data N8dwalT1SCU-00200-00037975-00038174 and trying to transmit all that data N8dwalT1SCU-00201-00038175-00038359 back into your N8dwalT1SCU-00202-00038360-00038743 analytics system so you end up curating N8dwalT1SCU-00203-00038744-00038855 some data some of you N8dwalT1SCU-00204-00038856-00039111 forward on often it's done it'll be done N8dwalT1SCU-00205-00039112-00039327 under control of policy so that N8dwalT1SCU-00206-00039328-00039567 data that is sensitive that should stay N8dwalT1SCU-00207-00039568-00039727 within the environment that it's in will N8dwalT1SCU-00208-00039728-00039887 stay N8dwalT1SCU-00209-00039888-00040271 but curated or alerts or N8dwalT1SCU-00210-00040272-00040543 information is particularly relevant say N8dwalT1SCU-00211-00040544-00040807 to configurations updates N8dwalT1SCU-00212-00040808-00040983 any any of that type of information will N8dwalT1SCU-00213-00040984-00041215 go up into the analytics into the N8dwalT1SCU-00214-00041216-00041327 insights N8dwalT1SCU-00215-00041328-00041487 and then in turn the alerts will come N8dwalT1SCU-00216-00041488-00041807 back down in a manner that are presented N8dwalT1SCU-00217-00041808-00041943 to the user so they understand what N8dwalT1SCU-00218-00041944-00042143 actions need to be taken place whether N8dwalT1SCU-00219-00042144-00042174 it's N8dwalT1SCU-00220-00042175-00042479 automated actions or they have to get N8dwalT1SCU-00221-00042480-00042646 approvals to maybe make an update to a N8dwalT1SCU-00222-00042647-00042774 certain environment N8dwalT1SCU-00223-00042775-00042943 all right you got telemetry data power N8dwalT1SCU-00224-00042944-00043207 the uh the advanced cluster manager acm N8dwalT1SCU-00225-00043208-00043455 what's the overlap of the visibility and N8dwalT1SCU-00226-00043456-00043630 automation here can you guys talk about N8dwalT1SCU-00227-00043631-00043862 that N8dwalT1SCU-00228-00043863-00044030 well it's a great question john what we N8dwalT1SCU-00229-00044031-00044174 like to do is we like to sort of N8dwalT1SCU-00230-00044175-00044343 separate the different areas N8dwalT1SCU-00231-00044344-00044551 there's the seeing right of what's going N8dwalT1SCU-00232-00044552-00044662 on in these environments right so N8dwalT1SCU-00233-00044663-00044799 getting the data analyzing it and N8dwalT1SCU-00234-00044800-00045007 determining what needs to be done and N8dwalT1SCU-00235-00045008-00045087 then N8dwalT1SCU-00236-00045088-00045239 the either the recommendation of the N8dwalT1SCU-00237-00045240-00045390 automation as dave said N8dwalT1SCU-00238-00045391-00045630 in a lot of environments um there's a N8dwalT1SCU-00239-00045631-00045695 process N8dwalT1SCU-00240-00045696-00045999 of either approvals or checkpoints or N8dwalT1SCU-00241-00046000-00046246 um you know evaluation of the changes N8dwalT1SCU-00242-00046247-00046399 being made to the system N8dwalT1SCU-00243-00046400-00046646 right so separating the data and the N8dwalT1SCU-00244-00046647-00046735 analysis N8dwalT1SCU-00245-00046736-00046862 from the what do you want to do with N8dwalT1SCU-00246-00046863-00046999 this and making that configurable i N8dwalT1SCU-00247-00047000-00047318 think is really powerful N8dwalT1SCU-00248-00047319-00047455 yeah that's i mean i think that's the N8dwalT1SCU-00249-00047456-00047607 number one thing it's like you know N8dwalT1SCU-00250-00047608-00047711 everyone always asks what do you N8dwalT1SCU-00251-00047712-00047846 optimize for do you optimize for the N8dwalT1SCU-00252-00047847-00048023 automation or the visibility N8dwalT1SCU-00253-00048024-00048151 and i think you know there's always a N8dwalT1SCU-00254-00048152-00048343 trade-off and that's always an N8dwalT1SCU-00255-00048344-00048471 interesting question david love to get N8dwalT1SCU-00256-00048472-00048615 your thoughts if someone asks you hey N8dwalT1SCU-00257-00048616-00048695 i'm N8dwalT1SCU-00258-00048696-00048815 i have a team of people what do i N8dwalT1SCU-00259-00048816-00049046 optimize for the visibility or the N8dwalT1SCU-00260-00049047-00049118 automation N8dwalT1SCU-00261-00049119-00049335 or both is there is there a rule of N8dwalT1SCU-00262-00049336-00049558 thumb or is there a playbook N8dwalT1SCU-00263-00049559-00049855 which how would you answer that question N8dwalT1SCU-00264-00049856-00049983 well there's a couple of things N8dwalT1SCU-00265-00049984-00050286 um i first i think the N8dwalT1SCU-00266-00050287-00050583 ability to pull the data together to get N8dwalT1SCU-00267-00050584-00050767 visibility across the environment N8dwalT1SCU-00268-00050768-00051111 is critical and then N8dwalT1SCU-00269-00051112-00051407 what becomes often complex is how the N8dwalT1SCU-00270-00051408-00051454 different N8dwalT1SCU-00271-00051455-00051687 disciplines how the different parts of N8dwalT1SCU-00272-00051688-00051879 the system are able to work together N8dwalT1SCU-00273-00051879-00052014 and common understanding of the N8dwalT1SCU-00274-00052015-00052190 resources common understanding the N8dwalT1SCU-00275-00052191-00052326 applications N8dwalT1SCU-00276-00052327-00052623 um that's usually where systems start N8dwalT1SCU-00277-00052624-00052719 falling down N8dwalT1SCU-00278-00052720-00052975 and so it's too siloed so one of the key N8dwalT1SCU-00279-00052976-00053175 things we have with N8dwalT1SCU-00280-00053176-00053382 with our systems particularly with N8dwalT1SCU-00281-00053383-00053479 openshift N8dwalT1SCU-00282-00053479-00053799 and rel and with acm N8dwalT1SCU-00283-00053800-00054150 and ansible is the ability to have N8dwalT1SCU-00284-00054151-00054326 a common back plane and the ability to N8dwalT1SCU-00285-00054327-00054471 have a common understanding of the N8dwalT1SCU-00286-00054472-00054703 resources and the applications N8dwalT1SCU-00287-00054704-00054903 and then you can start integrating the N8dwalT1SCU-00288-00054904-00055135 data around that common those common N8dwalT1SCU-00289-00055136-00055375 data models and take appropriate actions N8dwalT1SCU-00290-00055376-00055623 on that so that's how you end up getting N8dwalT1SCU-00291-00055624-00055719 the visibility N8dwalT1SCU-00292-00055720-00055959 integrated with the automation when you N8dwalT1SCU-00293-00055960-00056071 think about this N8dwalT1SCU-00294-00056072-00056303 uh joe about the security aspect of it N8dwalT1SCU-00295-00056304-00056430 and the edge of the network which has N8dwalT1SCU-00296-00056432-00056566 been a big theme this year N8dwalT1SCU-00297-00056567-00056766 and going into next year a lot more N8dwalT1SCU-00298-00056767-00057023 discussion and just the industrial edge N8dwalT1SCU-00299-00057024-00057391 you know um that's important N8dwalT1SCU-00300-00057391-00057519 you've got to take all this into account N8dwalT1SCU-00301-00057520-00057703 how do how would you talk about folks N8dwalT1SCU-00302-00057704-00057838 who are thinking about embedding N8dwalT1SCU-00303-00057839-00058015 security and thinking about now the N8dwalT1SCU-00304-00058016-00058111 distributed edge N8dwalT1SCU-00305-00058112-00058430 specifically right so we thought was N8dwalT1SCU-00306-00058432-00058559 complicated before right N8dwalT1SCU-00307-00058560-00058815 it goes up a notch here right as you N8dwalT1SCU-00308-00058816-00058903 have you know N8dwalT1SCU-00309-00058904-00059126 more and more edge applications i think N8dwalT1SCU-00310-00059127-00059238 at the end you're going to want N8dwalT1SCU-00311-00059239-00059430 automated policies and automated N8dwalT1SCU-00312-00059432-00059623 configurations in force N8dwalT1SCU-00313-00059624-00059775 so that when a device connects up to a N8dwalT1SCU-00314-00059776-00059935 network or is uh N8dwalT1SCU-00315-00059936-00060135 you know analyzed that there's a set of N8dwalT1SCU-00316-00060136-00060366 policies and a set of configurations and N8dwalT1SCU-00317-00060367-00060447 versions N8dwalT1SCU-00318-00060448-00060654 that need to be applied to that device N8dwalT1SCU-00319-00060655-00060838 these devices aren't always connected N8dwalT1SCU-00320-00060839-00061023 there's not always high bandwidth N8dwalT1SCU-00321-00061024-00061271 um so you basically want a high degree N8dwalT1SCU-00322-00061272-00061375 of automation N8dwalT1SCU-00323-00061376-00061535 in that case and to get back to your N8dwalT1SCU-00324-00061536-00061703 early point there are certain things you N8dwalT1SCU-00325-00061704-00061926 can set like policies about security or N8dwalT1SCU-00326-00061927-00062094 configuration you say i always want it N8dwalT1SCU-00327-00062095-00062199 to be like this N8dwalT1SCU-00328-00062200-00062406 make it so and there's other things N8dwalT1SCU-00329-00062407-00062550 where they're more N8dwalT1SCU-00330-00062551-00062815 uh you know complicated right to to N8dwalT1SCU-00331-00062816-00062935 address or have N8dwalT1SCU-00332-00062936-00063238 regulatory requirements or oversight N8dwalT1SCU-00333-00063239-00063406 issues and those things you want to tell N8dwalT1SCU-00334-00063407-00063559 somebody i think N8dwalT1SCU-00335-00063560-00063759 this should be done is this the right N8dwalT1SCU-00336-00063760-00063903 thing to do is it okay N8dwalT1SCU-00337-00063904-00064071 do it but at the end you're going to N8dwalT1SCU-00338-00064072-00064303 have a lot more sort of N8dwalT1SCU-00339-00064304-00064535 lights out automation to keep these N8dwalT1SCU-00340-00064536-00064694 things secure to configure right N8dwalT1SCU-00341-00064695-00064847 it's funny i thought the ansible guys N8dwalT1SCU-00342-00064848-00065023 are talking about you know code for code N8dwalT1SCU-00343-00065024-00065223 changing code all the time and dynamic N8dwalT1SCU-00344-00065224-00065342 nature of N8dwalT1SCU-00345-00065344-00065511 some of the emerging tech coming out of N8dwalT1SCU-00346-00065512-00065679 the the red hat teams N8dwalT1SCU-00347-00065680-00065815 it's pretty interesting you guys have N8dwalT1SCU-00348-00065816-00065967 going on there but you know you bring it N8dwalT1SCU-00349-00065968-00066094 down to the average N8dwalT1SCU-00350-00066095-00066311 enterprise and main street uh you know N8dwalT1SCU-00351-00066312-00066438 enterprise out there N8dwalT1SCU-00352-00066439-00066671 you know they're looking at okay i got N8dwalT1SCU-00353-00066672-00066871 some public cloud now i got hybrid N8dwalT1SCU-00354-00066872-00067047 i'm going 100 hybrid that's pretty much N8dwalT1SCU-00355-00067048-00067191 the general consensus of all the N8dwalT1SCU-00356-00067192-00067279 enterprises N8dwalT1SCU-00357-00067280-00067494 okay so now you say okay if i understand N8dwalT1SCU-00358-00067495-00067671 this correctly you got insights on N8dwalT1SCU-00359-00067672-00067991 rel open shift and ansible platform N8dwalT1SCU-00360-00067992-00068294 so am i set up for an open hybrid cloud N8dwalT1SCU-00361-00068295-00068431 that's the question i want to ask you N8dwalT1SCU-00362-00068432-00068663 guys does that give me the foundation N8dwalT1SCU-00363-00068664-00068871 to allow me to start the cloud adoption N8dwalT1SCU-00364-00068872-00069326 with in a true distributed open way N8dwalT1SCU-00365-00069327-00069503 well i'll offer to go first i think N8dwalT1SCU-00366-00069504-00069615 there's a couple of things you need in N8dwalT1SCU-00367-00069616-00069823 order to run across cyber clouds N8dwalT1SCU-00368-00069824-00069975 and i think red hat from a platform N8dwalT1SCU-00369-00069976-00070103 point of view the fact that red hat N8dwalT1SCU-00370-00070104-00070287 platforms run across all those different N8dwalT1SCU-00371-00070288-00070391 environments N8dwalT1SCU-00372-00070392-00070638 from the public cloud to on-premise N8dwalT1SCU-00373-00070639-00070815 physical vert to N8dwalT1SCU-00374-00070816-00071094 edge devices now you have consistency of N8dwalT1SCU-00375-00071095-00071231 those platforms whether it's your N8dwalT1SCU-00376-00071232-00071382 traditional workloads on rel N8dwalT1SCU-00377-00071383-00071511 your container-based workloads on N8dwalT1SCU-00378-00071512-00071703 openshift um or N8dwalT1SCU-00379-00071704-00071847 automation that's being driven by N8dwalT1SCU-00380-00071848-00072159 ansible those are consistent across all N8dwalT1SCU-00381-00072160-00072303 these different hybrid cloud N8dwalT1SCU-00382-00072304-00072423 environments so it reduces the N8dwalT1SCU-00383-00072424-00072599 complexity by standardizing those N8dwalT1SCU-00384-00072600-00072759 platforms across any and all of those N8dwalT1SCU-00385-00072760-00072831 different N8dwalT1SCU-00386-00072832-00073199 um substrates N8dwalT1SCU-00387-00073200-00073359 then when you can take the data from N8dwalT1SCU-00388-00073360-00073535 those systems bring them centrally and N8dwalT1SCU-00389-00073536-00073662 use it to manage those things to a N8dwalT1SCU-00390-00073663-00073791 higher degree of automation N8dwalT1SCU-00391-00073792-00074006 now you've taken another sort of chunk N8dwalT1SCU-00392-00074007-00074223 of complexity out of the problem N8dwalT1SCU-00393-00074224-00074415 right consistency of getting data from N8dwalT1SCU-00394-00074416-00074535 all those different systems N8dwalT1SCU-00395-00074536-00074711 being able to set policies and enforce N8dwalT1SCU-00396-00074712-00074862 things across all those distributed N8dwalT1SCU-00397-00074863-00074999 environments is huge N8dwalT1SCU-00398-00075000-00075159 yeah and then yes you know it fills in N8dwalT1SCU-00399-00075160-00075294 the gaps when you start thinking about N8dwalT1SCU-00400-00075295-00075471 the silo teams N8dwalT1SCU-00401-00075472-00075662 you know that uh i think one of the N8dwalT1SCU-00402-00075663-00075799 messages that i've been hearing out of N8dwalT1SCU-00403-00075800-00075950 red hat summit in the industry that's N8dwalT1SCU-00404-00075951-00076047 consistent is N8dwalT1SCU-00405-00076048-00076279 the unification trend that's going on N8dwalT1SCU-00406-00076280-00076438 unifying development teams N8dwalT1SCU-00407-00076439-00076671 in a way that creates more of an N8dwalT1SCU-00408-00076672-00076862 exponential value curve rather than just N8dwalT1SCU-00409-00076863-00076919 linear N8dwalT1SCU-00410-00076920-00077294 progressions in traditional i.t N8dwalT1SCU-00411-00077295-00077487 um are you guys seeing that as well i N8dwalT1SCU-00412-00077488-00077606 mean what's your N8dwalT1SCU-00413-00077607-00077831 take on this uh that's that piece of the N8dwalT1SCU-00414-00077832-00077950 story N8dwalT1SCU-00415-00077951-00078167 well i think the shift that we've seen N8dwalT1SCU-00416-00078168-00078343 for the last few years actually quite a N8dwalT1SCU-00417-00078344-00078455 few years N8dwalT1SCU-00418-00078456-00078735 uh with devops and sre it started to N8dwalT1SCU-00419-00078736-00078903 bring a lot of the disciplines together N8dwalT1SCU-00420-00078904-00078991 that you mentioned that are N8dwalT1SCU-00421-00078992-00079159 traditionally silos N8dwalT1SCU-00422-00079160-00079391 and you'll find the effectiveness of N8dwalT1SCU-00423-00079392-00079567 that is really around N8dwalT1SCU-00424-00079568-00079694 many of the areas that we've been N8dwalT1SCU-00425-00079695-00080006 discussing here which is open platforms N8dwalT1SCU-00426-00080007-00080206 that can run consistently across a N8dwalT1SCU-00427-00080207-00080350 hybrid environment N8dwalT1SCU-00428-00080351-00080655 the ability to get data and visibility N8dwalT1SCU-00429-00080656-00080894 out of those platforms so you can see N8dwalT1SCU-00430-00080895-00081103 across the distributed environment N8dwalT1SCU-00431-00081104-00081287 across the hybrid environment N8dwalT1SCU-00432-00081288-00081687 and then the ability to take actions N8dwalT1SCU-00433-00081688-00082047 enforce or um update environments N8dwalT1SCU-00434-00082048-00082182 through automation N8dwalT1SCU-00435-00082183-00082503 um is is really this was critical to N8dwalT1SCU-00436-00082504-00082591 bring things to N8dwalT1SCU-00437-00082592-00082750 to bring it all together yeah i think N8dwalT1SCU-00438-00082751-00082903 that's such an important point joe you N8dwalT1SCU-00439-00082904-00083047 know i was talking with chris wright N8dwalT1SCU-00440-00083048-00083111 around N8dwalT1SCU-00441-00083112-00083303 and we've covered this in the past uh N8dwalT1SCU-00442-00083304-00083518 red hat's success with academics N8dwalT1SCU-00443-00083519-00083718 um and the young people coming into the N8dwalT1SCU-00444-00083719-00083903 universities with computer science N8dwalT1SCU-00445-00083904-00084047 it's not just computer science anymore N8dwalT1SCU-00446-00084048-00084247 now you have engineering degrees N8dwalT1SCU-00447-00084248-00084462 kind of cross-disciplinary with sres as N8dwalT1SCU-00448-00084463-00084582 sre movement N8dwalT1SCU-00449-00084583-00084735 because you're looking at cloud N8dwalT1SCU-00450-00084736-00084918 operations at scale N8dwalT1SCU-00451-00084919-00085159 that's not an i.t problem anymore it's N8dwalT1SCU-00452-00085160-00085318 actually an i.t N8dwalT1SCU-00453-00085319-00085606 next-gen problem this is kind of what N8dwalT1SCU-00454-00085607-00085767 there's no real degree there's no N8dwalT1SCU-00455-00085768-00086118 real credential for you know large-scale N8dwalT1SCU-00456-00086119-00086271 hybrid cloud environments you just got N8dwalT1SCU-00457-00086272-00086511 the mass open cloud initiative N8dwalT1SCU-00458-00086512-00086703 i saw that going on that's some really N8dwalT1SCU-00459-00086704-00086887 pretty big things this is a N8dwalT1SCU-00460-00086888-00087199 a change in and talent what's your N8dwalT1SCU-00461-00087200-00087335 what's your uh view on this because i N8dwalT1SCU-00462-00087336-00087462 think people want to learn what N8dwalT1SCU-00463-00087463-00087615 what do i need to be in the future what N8dwalT1SCU-00464-00087616-00087879 position so john it's a great question i N8dwalT1SCU-00465-00087880-00087935 think um N8dwalT1SCU-00466-00087936-00088143 ansible actually addresses a number of N8dwalT1SCU-00467-00088144-00088335 the issues you brought up which is N8dwalT1SCU-00468-00088336-00088471 you know historically there have been N8dwalT1SCU-00469-00088472-00088599 different tools for each of the N8dwalT1SCU-00470-00088600-00088759 different groups N8dwalT1SCU-00471-00088760-00088918 so developers had their favorite set of N8dwalT1SCU-00472-00088919-00089126 tools and different i.t areas had their N8dwalT1SCU-00473-00089127-00089335 favorite set of tools and technologies N8dwalT1SCU-00474-00089336-00089494 and it was sort of like a tower battle N8dwalT1SCU-00475-00089495-00089671 people did not share the same N8dwalT1SCU-00476-00089672-00089903 sort of languages and tools ansible N8dwalT1SCU-00477-00089904-00089999 crosses N8dwalT1SCU-00478-00090000-00090238 both your your development test and N8dwalT1SCU-00479-00090239-00090359 operational teams N8dwalT1SCU-00480-00090360-00090535 so it creates a common language now that N8dwalT1SCU-00481-00090536-00090750 can be used across different teams N8dwalT1SCU-00482-00090751-00090943 it's easy to understand so it sort of N8dwalT1SCU-00483-00090944-00091118 democratizes automation N8dwalT1SCU-00484-00091119-00091503 you don't have to be deeply skilled N8dwalT1SCU-00485-00091504-00091775 in some you know bespoke language or N8dwalT1SCU-00486-00091776-00091959 technology in order to be able to do N8dwalT1SCU-00487-00091960-00092175 some level of automation so i think sort N8dwalT1SCU-00488-00092176-00092399 of sharing the same technology and tools N8dwalT1SCU-00489-00092400-00092662 like an ansible um democratizing it so N8dwalT1SCU-00490-00092663-00092838 that more people can get involved in N8dwalT1SCU-00491-00092839-00092943 automating N8dwalT1SCU-00492-00092944-00093150 sharing that automation across teams and N8dwalT1SCU-00493-00093151-00093318 unifying those worlds N8dwalT1SCU-00494-00093319-00093559 is huge right so i think that's a game N8dwalT1SCU-00495-00093560-00093726 changer as well in terms of N8dwalT1SCU-00496-00093727-00093882 uh getting these teams to work N8dwalT1SCU-00497-00093883-00094023 holistically and integrated in the N8dwalT1SCU-00498-00094024-00094103 future N8dwalT1SCU-00499-00094104-00094255 yeah and there's also a better together N8dwalT1SCU-00500-00094256-00094455 panel an ansible and advanced cluster N8dwalT1SCU-00501-00094456-00094567 management session N8dwalT1SCU-00502-00094568-00094774 folks watching should check it out on on N8dwalT1SCU-00503-00094775-00094950 the virtual event platform N8dwalT1SCU-00504-00094951-00095191 on that point while i got you here on N8dwalT1SCU-00505-00095192-00095271 that point let's N8dwalT1SCU-00506-00095272-00095447 let's talk about the portfolio updates N8dwalT1SCU-00507-00095448-00095591 for advanced cluster management for N8dwalT1SCU-00508-00095592-00095711 kubernetes N8dwalT1SCU-00509-00095712-00095982 um what's new since the ansible ansible N8dwalT1SCU-00510-00095983-00096167 fest announcements N8dwalT1SCU-00511-00096168-00096303 there's quite a bit that's been new N8dwalT1SCU-00512-00096304-00096606 since uh ansible fest that ansible best N8dwalT1SCU-00513-00096607-00096638 um N8dwalT1SCU-00514-00096639-00096862 well actually going back to summit last N8dwalT1SCU-00515-00096863-00096991 year we introduced N8dwalT1SCU-00516-00096992-00097326 advanced cluster management we for years N8dwalT1SCU-00517-00097327-00097471 we've been seeing the growth N8dwalT1SCU-00518-00097472-00097806 of kubernetes with cloud native and N8dwalT1SCU-00519-00097807-00098126 clusters and N8dwalT1SCU-00520-00098127-00098406 what what what acm really allows N8dwalT1SCU-00521-00098407-00098518 enterprises to do N8dwalT1SCU-00522-00098519-00098887 is is scale out their deployments N8dwalT1SCU-00523-00098888-00099159 of of openshift one of the things we N8dwalT1SCU-00524-00099160-00099199 found N8dwalT1SCU-00525-00099200-00099487 is that as you're deploying workloads or N8dwalT1SCU-00526-00099488-00099671 clusters or trying to take care of the N8dwalT1SCU-00527-00099672-00099759 compliance N8dwalT1SCU-00528-00099760-00099911 the importance of integrating that N8dwalT1SCU-00529-00099912-00100135 environment with the breadth of N8dwalT1SCU-00530-00100136-00100303 capabilities that ansible has in N8dwalT1SCU-00531-00100304-00100494 automation so that's what we announced N8dwalT1SCU-00532-00100495-00100679 at ansible best following last year's N8dwalT1SCU-00533-00100680-00100911 summit what we've done is N8dwalT1SCU-00534-00100912-00101318 put a lot more focus on that integration N8dwalT1SCU-00535-00101319-00101599 with with ansible so when you bring up N8dwalT1SCU-00536-00101600-00101855 you know provision a cluster N8dwalT1SCU-00537-00101856-00102055 maybe you need to make some storage or N8dwalT1SCU-00538-00102056-00102262 security configurations on behalf of N8dwalT1SCU-00539-00102263-00102335 that cluster N8dwalT1SCU-00540-00102336-00102582 or if you're taking care of the N8dwalT1SCU-00541-00102583-00102775 compliance how do you remediate any N8dwalT1SCU-00542-00102776-00102839 issues N8dwalT1SCU-00543-00102840-00103094 with ansible or one of the things that N8dwalT1SCU-00544-00103095-00103182 gets shown a lot N8dwalT1SCU-00545-00103183-00103375 demonstrated a lot of customers like is N8dwalT1SCU-00546-00103376-00103527 when you're deploying applications in N8dwalT1SCU-00547-00103528-00103606 production N8dwalT1SCU-00548-00103607-00103934 how do you configure uh the network uh N8dwalT1SCU-00549-00103935-00104078 do the network configurations like a N8dwalT1SCU-00550-00104079-00104342 load balancer maybe a ticket into your N8dwalT1SCU-00551-00104343-00104510 service management system N8dwalT1SCU-00552-00104511-00104710 along with say uh threat detection on N8dwalT1SCU-00553-00104711-00104823 your security N8dwalT1SCU-00554-00104824-00105175 so a lot of advances with acm N8dwalT1SCU-00555-00105176-00105327 in the integration with the broader N8dwalT1SCU-00556-00105328-00105647 ecosystem of it in particular N8dwalT1SCU-00557-00105648-00105975 with uh with ansible what's the N8dwalT1SCU-00558-00105976-00106158 ecosystem update for partners and this N8dwalT1SCU-00559-00106159-00106271 comes up all the time i want to make N8dwalT1SCU-00560-00106272-00106383 sure i get this in there N8dwalT1SCU-00561-00106383-00106566 i missed it last time we chatted you N8dwalT1SCU-00562-00106567-00106710 know the partner impact N8dwalT1SCU-00563-00106711-00106999 to this you mentioned the ecosystem and N8dwalT1SCU-00564-00107000-00107207 you got native kubernetes non-native N8dwalT1SCU-00565-00107208-00107302 what's native to N8dwalT1SCU-00566-00107303-00107463 everything you guys got a lot of native N8dwalT1SCU-00567-00107464-00107607 things and sometimes it's just support N8dwalT1SCU-00568-00107608-00107734 for other clouds so N8dwalT1SCU-00569-00107735-00107895 you start to get into the integration N8dwalT1SCU-00570-00107896-00108095 questions partners are very interested N8dwalT1SCU-00571-00108096-00108231 in what you guys are doing can you share N8dwalT1SCU-00572-00108232-00108447 the partner update on how they play and N8dwalT1SCU-00573-00108448-00108975 what impacts them the most here N8dwalT1SCU-00574-00108976-00109327 yeah on the advanced N8dwalT1SCU-00575-00109328-00109710 cluster management the acm front uh N8dwalT1SCU-00576-00109711-00110102 first with this integration with ansible N8dwalT1SCU-00577-00110103-00110375 that actually allows us to integrate N8dwalT1SCU-00578-00110376-00110439 with N8dwalT1SCU-00579-00110440-00110695 the wealth of partner ecosystem the N8dwalT1SCU-00580-00110696-00110863 hands of glass which is huge N8dwalT1SCU-00581-00110864-00111239 so that's that's one one space and then N8dwalT1SCU-00582-00111240-00111815 the way acm works this policy N8dwalT1SCU-00583-00111816-00112095 desire state model is we've been able to N8dwalT1SCU-00584-00112096-00112158 integrate N8dwalT1SCU-00585-00112159-00112390 with a large number of partners around N8dwalT1SCU-00586-00112391-00112566 particularly the security space N8dwalT1SCU-00587-00112567-00112839 of the service management space with age N8dwalT1SCU-00588-00112840-00113007 where we can enforce the use of N8dwalT1SCU-00589-00113008-00113343 certain security tools uh on the N8dwalT1SCU-00590-00113344-00113527 on the clusters themselves so it's N8dwalT1SCU-00591-00113528-00113647 really opened up N8dwalT1SCU-00592-00113648-00114063 how quickly partner offerings can be N8dwalT1SCU-00593-00114064-00114231 integrated into the openshift N8dwalT1SCU-00594-00114232-00114415 environment at scale across all the N8dwalT1SCU-00595-00114416-00114583 clusters that you want N8dwalT1SCU-00596-00114583-00114727 that you need to support it on with the N8dwalT1SCU-00597-00114728-00114990 appropriate configurations and policies N8dwalT1SCU-00598-00114991-00115166 joe i got to ask you on the inside N8dwalT1SCU-00599-00115167-00115343 side you mentioned the expansion across N8dwalT1SCU-00600-00115344-00115478 the platforms now if you go out take it N8dwalT1SCU-00601-00115479-00115607 out to the ecosystem N8dwalT1SCU-00602-00115608-00115766 you know there's guardrails around N8dwalT1SCU-00603-00115767-00115990 governance how far can partners push N8dwalT1SCU-00604-00115991-00116078 their data N8dwalT1SCU-00605-00116079-00116215 in terms of sharing that's something N8dwalT1SCU-00606-00116216-00116358 that might come up when you comment on N8dwalT1SCU-00607-00116359-00116510 that N8dwalT1SCU-00608-00116511-00116831 sure so uh red hat um you know takes N8dwalT1SCU-00609-00116832-00116966 you know our customer data very N8dwalT1SCU-00610-00116967-00117166 seriously more a trusted N8dwalT1SCU-00611-00117167-00117390 partner to our customers so the data N8dwalT1SCU-00612-00117391-00117583 that we get from systems we N8dwalT1SCU-00613-00117583-00117758 make sure that we are following all of N8dwalT1SCU-00614-00117759-00117951 the governance and oversight necessary N8dwalT1SCU-00615-00117952-00118095 to protect that data N8dwalT1SCU-00616-00118096-00118334 so far we have basically been collecting N8dwalT1SCU-00617-00118335-00118607 that data and using that data at red hat N8dwalT1SCU-00618-00118608-00118886 our plan really is to allow partners N8dwalT1SCU-00619-00118888-00119071 with the right degree of governance and N8dwalT1SCU-00620-00119072-00119143 control N8dwalT1SCU-00621-00119144-00119375 to be able to use some of that data in N8dwalT1SCU-00622-00119376-00119510 the future N8dwalT1SCU-00623-00119511-00119654 under the right conditions whether it's N8dwalT1SCU-00624-00119655-00119886 anonymized or aggregated N8dwalT1SCU-00625-00119888-00120023 things like that to be able to take that N8dwalT1SCU-00626-00120024-00120319 data and to add value to customers N8dwalT1SCU-00627-00120320-00120583 if they can enrich customers or or help N8dwalT1SCU-00628-00120583-00120663 customers N8dwalT1SCU-00629-00120664-00120831 by getting some access to that data N8dwalT1SCU-00630-00120832-00120975 without every N8dwalT1SCU-00631-00120976-00121119 vendor or partner having to go out to N8dwalT1SCU-00632-00121120-00121310 systems and having to connect and pull N8dwalT1SCU-00633-00121311-00121407 data back N8dwalT1SCU-00634-00121408-00121702 that's a pretty tough situation for N8dwalT1SCU-00635-00121703-00121799 customers to N8dwalT1SCU-00636-00121800-00122095 live with but i think that fact that red N8dwalT1SCU-00637-00122096-00122207 head is trusted N8dwalT1SCU-00638-00122208-00122343 we've been doing this for a while we N8dwalT1SCU-00639-00122344-00122510 know how to handle the data we know how N8dwalT1SCU-00640-00122511-00122663 to provide the governance N8dwalT1SCU-00641-00122664-00122927 but our plan really is to enable N8dwalT1SCU-00642-00122928-00122990 partners N8dwalT1SCU-00643-00122991-00123310 to use that data ecosystem i will say N8dwalT1SCU-00644-00123311-00123375 that N8dwalT1SCU-00645-00123376-00123534 in addition what dave said about acm and N8dwalT1SCU-00646-00123535-00123743 partners ansible has been N8dwalT1SCU-00647-00123744-00123919 um working with partners on the N8dwalT1SCU-00648-00123920-00124078 automation side N8dwalT1SCU-00649-00124079-00124319 uh at a very large scale right so if you N8dwalT1SCU-00650-00124320-00124478 look at the amount of partners that are N8dwalT1SCU-00651-00124479-00124702 doing automation work with us we have N8dwalT1SCU-00652-00124703-00124863 some pretty strong N8dwalT1SCU-00653-00124864-00125102 you know depth there in terms of working N8dwalT1SCU-00654-00125103-00125183 with partners N8dwalT1SCU-00655-00125183-00125343 our plan is to take the data ecosystem N8dwalT1SCU-00656-00125344-00125486 and expand that as well N8dwalT1SCU-00657-00125488-00125654 it's really a nice mix between ansible N8dwalT1SCU-00658-00125655-00125831 open shift and then rel you guys have N8dwalT1SCU-00659-00125832-00126014 great insights across now N8dwalT1SCU-00660-00126015-00126247 i think the open innovation just N8dwalT1SCU-00661-00126248-00126390 continues to be N8dwalT1SCU-00662-00126391-00126566 every year i i say the same thing it's N8dwalT1SCU-00663-00126567-00126775 almost like a broken record but every N8dwalT1SCU-00664-00126776-00126958 year it just gets better and better N8dwalT1SCU-00665-00126959-00127134 you know innovation out in the open you N8dwalT1SCU-00666-00127135-00127343 guys doing a great job and continuing N8dwalT1SCU-00667-00127344-00127543 and now certainly as the pandemic looks N8dwalT1SCU-00668-00127544-00127727 like it's coming to an end soon N8dwalT1SCU-00669-00127728-00127975 post pandemic a lot more projects are N8dwalT1SCU-00670-00127976-00128063 being N8dwalT1SCU-00671-00128064-00128343 worked on a lot more productivity as we N8dwalT1SCU-00672-00128344-00128495 said at the top N8dwalT1SCU-00673-00128496-00128654 so to end this segment out i'd love to N8dwalT1SCU-00674-00128655-00128878 get you guys to weigh in on N8dwalT1SCU-00675-00128879-00129023 what happens next as we come out of the N8dwalT1SCU-00676-00129024-00129278 pandemic the table has been set the N8dwalT1SCU-00677-00129279-00129463 foundation's there N8dwalT1SCU-00678-00129464-00129702 cloud native is continuing to accelerate N8dwalT1SCU-00679-00129703-00129831 rapidly N8dwalT1SCU-00680-00129832-00130007 in the open open source going to another N8dwalT1SCU-00681-00130008-00130166 level N8dwalT1SCU-00682-00130167-00130478 what's next what's what's gonna what N8dwalT1SCU-00683-00130479-00130614 what's next for customers are they gonna N8dwalT1SCU-00684-00130615-00130807 continue to double down on those the N8dwalT1SCU-00685-00130808-00130943 wins they're gonna shut down certain N8dwalT1SCU-00686-00130944-00131063 projects N8dwalT1SCU-00687-00131064-00131271 what happens after this pandemic how do N8dwalT1SCU-00688-00131272-00131663 people grow dave will start with you N8dwalT1SCU-00689-00131664-00131999 well i think yes we all see the light at N8dwalT1SCU-00690-00132000-00132183 the end of the tunnel john N8dwalT1SCU-00691-00132184-00132607 is great and i think if N8dwalT1SCU-00692-00132608-00132935 a positive is really throughout this N8dwalT1SCU-00693-00132936-00133151 we've been accelerating the digitization N8dwalT1SCU-00694-00133152-00133343 and app modernization across the board N8dwalT1SCU-00695-00133344-00133390 across N8dwalT1SCU-00696-00133391-00133702 industries okay and that N8dwalT1SCU-00697-00133703-00134078 is really teaching all of us a lot about N8dwalT1SCU-00698-00134079-00134278 the importance of how do you start N8dwalT1SCU-00699-00134279-00134439 managing and running this at scale and N8dwalT1SCU-00700-00134440-00134654 securing this at scale so i think what N8dwalT1SCU-00701-00134655-00134711 we'll see N8dwalT1SCU-00702-00134712-00134966 coming out of this is just that much N8dwalT1SCU-00703-00134967-00135087 more effort N8dwalT1SCU-00704-00135088-00135399 and open ecosystems how you really bring N8dwalT1SCU-00705-00135400-00135471 together N8dwalT1SCU-00706-00135472-00135799 data across insights how you N8dwalT1SCU-00707-00135800-00136135 bring in increasing amount of analytics N8dwalT1SCU-00708-00136136-00136454 ai to now do something uh turn that data N8dwalT1SCU-00709-00136455-00136631 into information that you can respond N8dwalT1SCU-00710-00136632-00136687 with N8dwalT1SCU-00711-00136688-00136863 and that in turn close it closing the N8dwalT1SCU-00712-00136864-00137031 loop with automation N8dwalT1SCU-00713-00137032-00137263 against your against your hybrid cloud N8dwalT1SCU-00714-00137264-00137359 environment N8dwalT1SCU-00715-00137360-00137502 we're just going to the acceleration of N8dwalT1SCU-00716-00137503-00137743 that occurring awesome great insights N8dwalT1SCU-00717-00137744-00137871 there open N8dwalT1SCU-00718-00137872-00138054 data insights automation all kind of N8dwalT1SCU-00719-00138055-00138247 coming together ai if you don't have ai N8dwalT1SCU-00720-00138248-00138319 in your N8dwalT1SCU-00721-00138320-00138519 your plans someone was wall street was N8dwalT1SCU-00722-00138520-00138639 joking that's going to be the future N8dwalT1SCU-00723-00138640-00138799 stable stakes get listed on wall N8dwalT1SCU-00724-00138800-00138975 street you got to have some sort of ai N8dwalT1SCU-00725-00138976-00139135 piece there's great insight N8dwalT1SCU-00726-00139136-00139375 joe your take on what's next what what N8dwalT1SCU-00727-00139376-00139487 what's going to what's going to happen N8dwalT1SCU-00728-00139488-00139775 as we come out of the pandemic N8dwalT1SCU-00729-00139776-00139959 yeah we're definitely seeing people you N8dwalT1SCU-00730-00139960-00140095 know advance their digital N8dwalT1SCU-00731-00140096-00140263 transformation N8dwalT1SCU-00732-00140264-00140407 and i don't think it's going to stop N8dwalT1SCU-00733-00140408-00140590 right so the speed scale and complexity N8dwalT1SCU-00734-00140591-00140735 are just going to put more pressure on N8dwalT1SCU-00735-00140736-00140943 teams right to be able to support these N8dwalT1SCU-00736-00140944-00141102 environments that are evolving at light N8dwalT1SCU-00737-00141103-00141199 speed N8dwalT1SCU-00738-00141200-00141383 so i think red hat is really well N8dwalT1SCU-00739-00141384-00141551 positioned and is a great partner for N8dwalT1SCU-00740-00141552-00141623 folks N8dwalT1SCU-00741-00141624-00141919 who are trying to get more digital N8dwalT1SCU-00742-00141920-00142007 faster N8dwalT1SCU-00743-00142008-00142175 trying to leverage these technologies N8dwalT1SCU-00744-00142176-00142375 from the hybrid cloud to the edge N8dwalT1SCU-00745-00142376-00142519 they're going to need lots of help red N8dwalT1SCU-00746-00142520-00142743 hat is in a great position to help them N8dwalT1SCU-00747-00142744-00142902 you guys doing great work dave lindquist N8dwalT1SCU-00748-00142903-00143078 joe fitzgerald great to have you back on N8dwalT1SCU-00749-00143079-00143143 again N8dwalT1SCU-00750-00143144-00143502 open always wins and as end users become N8dwalT1SCU-00751-00143503-00143663 much more participants in the open N8dwalT1SCU-00752-00143664-00143823 source ecosystem N8dwalT1SCU-00753-00143824-00144095 end user contributions and user N8dwalT1SCU-00754-00144096-00144343 interactions software at scale N8dwalT1SCU-00755-00144344-00144543 it's it's now a new next generation N8dwalT1SCU-00756-00144544-00144647 commercial N8dwalT1SCU-00757-00144648-00144807 environment guys doing a great job thank N8dwalT1SCU-00758-00144808-00145095 you for sharing appreciate it N8dwalT1SCU-00759-00145096-00145375 thank you john thanks john okay red hat N8dwalT1SCU-00760-00145376-00145654 summit 21 cube coverage i'm john furrier N8dwalT1SCU-00761-00145655-00145799 getting all the action from the experts N8dwalT1SCU-00762-00145800-00145983 have been there done that living through N8dwalT1SCU-00763-00145984-00146023 it N8dwalT1SCU-00764-00146024-00146166 being more productive and bringing N8dwalT1SCU-00765-00146167-00146366 benefits to you being open source N8dwalT1SCU-00766-00146367-00147654 thanks for watching N8dwalT1SCU-00767-00147655-00147864 you N8y5FBmDuDY-00000-00000208-00000471 what's going on y'all what's happening N8y5FBmDuDY-00001-00000472-00000607 you know what N8y5FBmDuDY-00002-00000608-00000839 today just one of them days i feel like N8y5FBmDuDY-00003-00000840-00000935 just N8y5FBmDuDY-00004-00000936-00001150 letting y'all hear some of these N8y5FBmDuDY-00005-00001151-00001391 great sounds from this elisa's qx6 N8y5FBmDuDY-00006-00001392-00001527 synthesizer N8y5FBmDuDY-00007-00001528-00001807 i use it all the time in my mixes N8y5FBmDuDY-00008-00001807-00001895 and N8y5FBmDuDY-00009-00001896-00002087 i just had to bring it out man because N8y5FBmDuDY-00010-00002088-00002310 it sounds so good i'm gonna go ahead and N8y5FBmDuDY-00011-00002311-00002637 let y'all hear something right quick N8y5FBmDuDY-00012-00002638-00003007 [Music] N8y5FBmDuDY-00013-00003008-00003239 y'all hear how it sounds N8y5FBmDuDY-00014-00003240-00004151 [Music] N8y5FBmDuDY-00015-00004152-00004319 now i'm only doing this N8y5FBmDuDY-00016-00004320-00004473 just to kind of N8y5FBmDuDY-00017-00004474-00004622 [Music] N8y5FBmDuDY-00018-00004623-00004751 you know N8y5FBmDuDY-00019-00004752-00005135 bring out the fact that N8y5FBmDuDY-00020-00005136-00005479 you know even though N8y5FBmDuDY-00021-00005480-00005727 this stuff came out like what N8y5FBmDuDY-00022-00005728-00005902 20 years ago or something like that N8y5FBmDuDY-00023-00005903-00006143 maybe more N8y5FBmDuDY-00024-00006144-00006202 is that N8y5FBmDuDY-00025-00006203-00006470 [Music] N8y5FBmDuDY-00026-00006472-00006727 a lot of times it's not about how old it N8y5FBmDuDY-00027-00006728-00006806 is N8y5FBmDuDY-00028-00006808-00006967 it's just about N8y5FBmDuDY-00029-00006968-00007437 how well you know how to work it N8y5FBmDuDY-00030-00007438-00008930 [Music] N8y5FBmDuDY-00031-00008931-00009548 [Music] N8y5FBmDuDY-00032-00009549-00009751 [Music] N8y5FBmDuDY-00033-00009752-00009959 now you know what y'all N8y5FBmDuDY-00034-00009960-00010191 i want to show y'all something N8y5FBmDuDY-00035-00010192-00010342 about this keyboard here i don't know N8y5FBmDuDY-00036-00010343-00010503 whether or not y'all can see it but N8y5FBmDuDY-00037-00010504-00010947 check this out N8y5FBmDuDY-00038-00010948-00011599 [Music] N8y5FBmDuDY-00039-00011600-00011846 this keyboard man N8y5FBmDuDY-00040-00011847-00012046 really helps out i don't know about N8y5FBmDuDY-00041-00012047-00012278 y'all but i like good sounds N8y5FBmDuDY-00042-00012279-00012693 here let me check out another one N8y5FBmDuDY-00043-00012694-00012943 [Music] N8y5FBmDuDY-00044-00012944-00013102 let me go ahead and bring a groove back N8y5FBmDuDY-00045-00013103-00013679 in N8y5FBmDuDY-00046-00013680-00013799 this is called N8y5FBmDuDY-00047-00013800-00014222 p n o in rows together now that sounds i N8y5FBmDuDY-00048-00014223-00014547 like the sound but N8y5FBmDuDY-00049-00014549-00015152 [Music] N8y5FBmDuDY-00050-00015153-00015743 [Music] N8y5FBmDuDY-00051-00015744-00015911 i likes that N8y5FBmDuDY-00052-00015912-00016119 i likes that right there and this is N8y5FBmDuDY-00053-00016119-00016366 called soft fm N8y5FBmDuDY-00054-00016368-00016486 ep N8y5FBmDuDY-00055-00016487-00016663 let me go ahead and bring up bring up N8y5FBmDuDY-00056-00016664-00016917 beat to help it out N8y5FBmDuDY-00057-00016918-00017167 [Music] N8y5FBmDuDY-00058-00017168-00017352 y'all hear that N8y5FBmDuDY-00059-00017353-00018894 [Music] N8y5FBmDuDY-00060-00018895-00019319 that's called a raised road N8y5FBmDuDY-00061-00019320-00019822 let's try out some more N8y5FBmDuDY-00062-00019823-00020022 i likes that N8y5FBmDuDY-00063-00020023-00020384 i likes that right there N9AJTZxQzN4-00000-00000059-00000623 Stanford plays multiplayer save six N9AJTZxQzN4-00001-00000624-00000911 all right I've only got Dan's turns to N9AJTZxQzN4-00002-00000911-00000983 do N9AJTZxQzN4-00003-00000984-00001162 um Dave is unavailable N9AJTZxQzN4-00004-00001163-00001349 so we're just playing the games where N9AJTZxQzN4-00005-00001350-00001511 I'm playing with Dan N9AJTZxQzN4-00006-00001512-00001953 so here I was fighting Baltimore N9AJTZxQzN4-00007-00001954-00002845 [Music] N9AJTZxQzN4-00008-00002846-00003365 so I don't see it here but N9AJTZxQzN4-00009-00003365-00003856 it looks like I lost my medic N9AJTZxQzN4-00010-00003857-00004193 but I don't see how N9AJTZxQzN4-00011-00004194-00004427 I guess maybe by N9AJTZxQzN4-00012-00004428-00004631 an Archer but it's I'm surprised it N9AJTZxQzN4-00013-00004632-00004997 didn't tell me here that I lost my medic N9AJTZxQzN4-00014-00004998-00005191 but so it goes N9AJTZxQzN4-00015-00005192-00005345 [Music] N9AJTZxQzN4-00016-00005346-00005627 all right so N9AJTZxQzN4-00017-00005628-00005931 um let's see I think I'm gonna N9AJTZxQzN4-00018-00005932-00006101 [Music] N9AJTZxQzN4-00019-00006102-00007120 focus on taking this guy out N9AJTZxQzN4-00020-00007122-00007498 all right that gets rid of him N9AJTZxQzN4-00021-00007500-00007733 foreign N9AJTZxQzN4-00022-00007734-00007889 excellent N9AJTZxQzN4-00023-00007890-00008219 so now this guy he can't reach him huh I N9AJTZxQzN4-00024-00008220-00008399 wonder if they can reach him then N9AJTZxQzN4-00025-00008400-00008910 all right let's start attacking the city N9AJTZxQzN4-00026-00008911-00009173 okay this Knight can wait for a minute N9AJTZxQzN4-00027-00009174-00009726 these guys can go N9AJTZxQzN4-00028-00009727-00010081 [Music] N9AJTZxQzN4-00029-00010082-00010319 all right now this City's in bad shape N9AJTZxQzN4-00030-00010320-00011069 let's see if we have this guy attack N9AJTZxQzN4-00031-00011070-00011291 we've almost but not quite got Baltimore N9AJTZxQzN4-00032-00011292-00012305 but I bet this guy can take Baltimore N9AJTZxQzN4-00033-00012306-00012664 there we go N9AJTZxQzN4-00034-00012665-00012808 azah N9AJTZxQzN4-00035-00012809-00012994 all right in the meanwhile this guy N9AJTZxQzN4-00036-00012995-00013372 continues to explore N9AJTZxQzN4-00037-00013373-00013577 out this way I guess all right we found N9AJTZxQzN4-00038-00013578-00013936 somebody Maybe N9AJTZxQzN4-00039-00013937-00014183 laventa they want me to construct a holy N9AJTZxQzN4-00040-00014184-00014458 site I might have done all the holy site N9AJTZxQzN4-00041-00014459-00014615 construction I'm going to do N9AJTZxQzN4-00042-00014616-00014836 all right so production let's do ancient N9AJTZxQzN4-00043-00014837-00015058 walls N9AJTZxQzN4-00044-00015059-00015419 um N9AJTZxQzN4-00045-00015419-00015688 all right some of my folks may be able N9AJTZxQzN4-00046-00015690-00015916 to upgrade now maybe oh this guy can get N9AJTZxQzN4-00047-00015918-00016169 named which is nice N9AJTZxQzN4-00048-00016169-00016294 um N9AJTZxQzN4-00049-00016295-00016553 I guess I upgraded them already N9AJTZxQzN4-00050-00016554-00016703 or maybe it's because they already took N9AJTZxQzN4-00051-00016704-00016822 their turn N9AJTZxQzN4-00052-00016823-00017033 that's probably what it is N9AJTZxQzN4-00053-00017034-00017261 so I thought I had some upgrades N9AJTZxQzN4-00054-00017262-00017447 um I just I just needed my guys to be in N9AJTZxQzN4-00055-00017448-00017639 their territory N9AJTZxQzN4-00056-00017640-00017950 all right well that nope I thought that N9AJTZxQzN4-00057-00017951-00018125 finished that turn but it didn't all N9AJTZxQzN4-00058-00018126-00018311 right Sid means orders no this guy here N9AJTZxQzN4-00059-00018312-00018544 needs to know where to go because now N9AJTZxQzN4-00060-00018545-00018983 plans have changed somewhat N9AJTZxQzN4-00061-00018984-00019600 um let's see let's have him well N9AJTZxQzN4-00062-00019601-00020411 I heard uh it uh N9AJTZxQzN4-00063-00020412-00020639 we may just need to take right here to N9AJTZxQzN4-00064-00020640-00020872 it's kind of in the way to get to St N9AJTZxQzN4-00065-00020873-00021100 Louis because all these mountains N9AJTZxQzN4-00066-00021101-00021479 so yeah I guess I guess there we go here N9AJTZxQzN4-00067-00021480-00022000 we go N9AJTZxQzN4-00068-00022001-00022235 all right so here we are in the game N9AJTZxQzN4-00069-00022236-00022486 where I'm dueling Dan I had given myself N9AJTZxQzN4-00070-00022487-00022714 a bunch of spots to work N9AJTZxQzN4-00071-00022715-00023128 so I will go ahead and do that N9AJTZxQzN4-00072-00023129-00023363 Dan has accepted my deal which I think N9AJTZxQzN4-00073-00023364-00023627 was for peace N9AJTZxQzN4-00074-00023628-00023921 um so I finished the Oracle while Dan N9AJTZxQzN4-00075-00023922-00024185 finished Petra N9AJTZxQzN4-00076-00024186-00024398 it's gonna be interesting N9AJTZxQzN4-00077-00024399-00024983 [Music] N9AJTZxQzN4-00078-00024984-00025313 all right there we go to the main menu N9AJTZxQzN4-00079-00025314-00025631 all right Dan played his turn so now N9AJTZxQzN4-00080-00025632-00025840 we've got Military Academy Cavalry and N9AJTZxQzN4-00081-00025841-00026008 line Infantry N9AJTZxQzN4-00082-00026010-00026596 all right so N9AJTZxQzN4-00083-00026597-00026770 um N9AJTZxQzN4-00084-00026772-00027196 uh I don't know let's do rifling since N9AJTZxQzN4-00085-00027197-00027502 we are in the middle of a battle then N9AJTZxQzN4-00086-00027504-00027712 let's do some chemistry which is gonna N9AJTZxQzN4-00087-00027713-00027977 be awesome sauce N9AJTZxQzN4-00088-00027977-00028187 um N9AJTZxQzN4-00089-00028188-00028655 Advanced flight rocketry N9AJTZxQzN4-00090-00028656-00028781 hmm N9AJTZxQzN4-00091-00028782-00029057 ballistics N9AJTZxQzN4-00092-00029058-00029507 um synthetic materials nukes N9AJTZxQzN4-00093-00029508-00029735 um these things those things those N9AJTZxQzN4-00094-00029736-00029924 things that stuff N9AJTZxQzN4-00095-00029925-00030064 [Music] N9AJTZxQzN4-00096-00030066-00030401 um robots Fusion Nano N9AJTZxQzN4-00097-00030402-00030562 all right I think that gets us most of N9AJTZxQzN4-00098-00030563-00030916 the way through the rest of the game N9AJTZxQzN4-00099-00030917-00031399 [Music] N9AJTZxQzN4-00100-00031400-00031751 all right let's go to Q let's do ancient N9AJTZxQzN4-00101-00031752-00032123 walls first because N9AJTZxQzN4-00102-00032124-00032243 um N9AJTZxQzN4-00103-00032244-00032495 they need to be able to defend N9AJTZxQzN4-00104-00032495-00032645 um then I think N9AJTZxQzN4-00105-00032645-00033257 [Music] N9AJTZxQzN4-00106-00033258-00033461 they need amenities but that might just N9AJTZxQzN4-00107-00033462-00033712 be because they are um currently N9AJTZxQzN4-00108-00033713-00034193 occupied so let's go for a uni a bank no N9AJTZxQzN4-00109-00034194-00034415 no no no no let's move that N9AJTZxQzN4-00110-00034416-00034552 I guess we gotta put this in first let's N9AJTZxQzN4-00111-00034553-00034762 do a workshop first because that'll get N9AJTZxQzN4-00112-00034763-00034959 things going then you need the bank N9AJTZxQzN4-00113-00034960-00035759 [Music] N9AJTZxQzN4-00114-00035760-00035987 all right I think that's good N9AJTZxQzN4-00115-00035988-00036379 all right so now N9AJTZxQzN4-00116-00036380-00036683 all right we've got this N9AJTZxQzN4-00117-00036684-00037079 Knight who's in trouble somewhat N9AJTZxQzN4-00118-00037080-00037307 all right can this guy shoot over there N9AJTZxQzN4-00119-00037308-00037577 or what all right finally N9AJTZxQzN4-00120-00037578-00038579 so let's shoot that guy N9AJTZxQzN4-00121-00038580-00039023 all right can this guy shoot anybody N9AJTZxQzN4-00122-00039024-00039293 not really let's bring him closer N9AJTZxQzN4-00123-00039294-00039817 and we might as well promote him N9AJTZxQzN4-00124-00039818-00040049 attack after moving seems like an N9AJTZxQzN4-00125-00040050-00040301 awesome promotion we'll use this guy to N9AJTZxQzN4-00126-00040302-00040780 attack our pikemen N9AJTZxQzN4-00127-00040781-00041021 awesome he's got a promotion available N9AJTZxQzN4-00128-00041022-00041387 now it looks like maybe N9AJTZxQzN4-00129-00041388-00041651 they both die or something so that seems N9AJTZxQzN4-00130-00041652-00041962 kind of dumb so what if I attack well N9AJTZxQzN4-00131-00041963-00042107 what if I get this guy out of the city N9AJTZxQzN4-00132-00042108-00042424 bring that guy into the city N9AJTZxQzN4-00133-00042425-00042629 promote him N9AJTZxQzN4-00134-00042630-00042923 to be awesome against damage units N9AJTZxQzN4-00135-00042924-00043187 all right we'll let him have a name all N9AJTZxQzN4-00136-00043188-00043415 right I knew we could upgrade something N9AJTZxQzN4-00137-00043416-00043829 I upgraded that guy to a medic N9AJTZxQzN4-00138-00043830-00044189 and continue to be an escort formation N9AJTZxQzN4-00139-00044190-00044423 let this guy heal N9AJTZxQzN4-00140-00044424-00044746 uh it's no okay battering ram we don't N9AJTZxQzN4-00141-00044747-00044915 have enough gold to turn him into a N9AJTZxQzN4-00142-00044916-00045035 medic N9AJTZxQzN4-00143-00045036-00045346 so we'll just skip his turn N9AJTZxQzN4-00144-00045347-00045551 this guy can get oops this guy can get N9AJTZxQzN4-00145-00045552-00045701 his promotion we'll make him awesome N9AJTZxQzN4-00146-00045702-00045940 against damage units heck yeah let him N9AJTZxQzN4-00147-00045941-00047135 get a name N9AJTZxQzN4-00148-00047136-00047237 all right N9AJTZxQzN4-00149-00047238-00047446 we'll attack this guy I mean this is a N9AJTZxQzN4-00150-00047447-00047608 no-brainer man my guys are Knights and N9AJTZxQzN4-00151-00047609-00048107 they're attacking archers N9AJTZxQzN4-00152-00048108-00048293 look at this guy over here waiting to be N9AJTZxQzN4-00153-00048294-00048508 captured N9AJTZxQzN4-00154-00048509-00048724 um N9AJTZxQzN4-00155-00048725-00048893 I have someone that can capture him N9AJTZxQzN4-00156-00048894-00049246 somewhere N9AJTZxQzN4-00157-00049247-00049468 bugger N9AJTZxQzN4-00158-00049469-00049637 oh can this guy capture units because N9AJTZxQzN4-00159-00049638-00050008 that would be awesome sauce N9AJTZxQzN4-00160-00050009-00050165 guess not N9AJTZxQzN4-00161-00050166-00050267 all right N9AJTZxQzN4-00162-00050268-00050362 um N9AJTZxQzN4-00163-00050363-00050645 gotta be unit somewhere N9AJTZxQzN4-00164-00050646-00050890 nobody huh N9AJTZxQzN4-00165-00050891-00051143 all right well N9AJTZxQzN4-00166-00051144-00051364 this guy maybe can you go back and grab N9AJTZxQzN4-00167-00051365-00051682 this dude N9AJTZxQzN4-00168-00051683-00051880 at least he won't be able to disappear N9AJTZxQzN4-00169-00051882-00051988 from me N9AJTZxQzN4-00170-00051989-00052601 all right let's give N9AJTZxQzN4-00171-00052602-00053092 all right how about to EuroVan why not N9AJTZxQzN4-00172-00053094-00053519 cool this guy weigh the F over here N9AJTZxQzN4-00173-00053520-00054394 I can keep going N9AJTZxQzN4-00174-00054395-00054599 all right we've got a ranged attack this N9AJTZxQzN4-00175-00054600-00055187 guy's dealing with pirates again N9AJTZxQzN4-00176-00055188-00055750 and that's that I guess N9AJTZxQzN4-00177-00055751-00055985 all right so back to my duel with Dan N9AJTZxQzN4-00178-00055986-00056092 game N9AJTZxQzN4-00179-00056094-00056315 get this copper and I can get rid of N9AJTZxQzN4-00180-00056316-00056494 that marker N9AJTZxQzN4-00181-00056495-00056735 all right and that was that that was N9AJTZxQzN4-00182-00056736-00056800 easy N9AJTZxQzN4-00183-00056801-00057082 foreign N9AJTZxQzN4-00184-00057083-00057383 cool N9HDoWaaoB4-00000-00000008-00000223 i'm a reconstructionist personally and N9HDoWaaoB4-00001-00000224-00000383 there's many ways to say that but my N9HDoWaaoB4-00002-00000384-00000519 favorite way to say that N9HDoWaaoB4-00003-00000520-00001614 is that i'm an annoying nerd N9HDoWaaoB4-00004-00001616-00001847 so let's set up the stage a little bit N9HDoWaaoB4-00005-00001848-00002023 until very recently what is largely N9HDoWaaoB4-00006-00002023-00002215 considered paganism was a hodgepodge of N9HDoWaaoB4-00007-00002216-00002399 movements that were generally rooted N9HDoWaaoB4-00008-00002400-00002615 in personal exploration through ritual N9HDoWaaoB4-00009-00002616-00002742 ceremonial magic N9HDoWaaoB4-00010-00002743-00002966 and spirituality some of these movements N9HDoWaaoB4-00011-00002967-00003079 appealed to history but N9HDoWaaoB4-00012-00003080-00003279 some of that history was a romanticized N9HDoWaaoB4-00013-00003279-00003422 image that we've N9HDoWaaoB4-00014-00003423-00003719 later learned isn't entirely accurate N9HDoWaaoB4-00015-00003720-00003919 through a series of movements two very N9HDoWaaoB4-00016-00003920-00004099 prominent camps have arisen N9HDoWaaoB4-00017-00004100-00004359 reconstructionism and eclecticism and N9HDoWaaoB4-00018-00004360-00004543 recons and eclectics will often get into N9HDoWaaoB4-00019-00004544-00004711 disagreements and scuffles about how to N9HDoWaaoB4-00020-00004712-00004886 approach their pagan practices N9HDoWaaoB4-00021-00004887-00005263 and which one is quote right bias noted N9HDoWaaoB4-00022-00005264-00005438 i am a reconstructionist but N9HDoWaaoB4-00023-00005439-00005599 i want to go into this a bit and give a N9HDoWaaoB4-00024-00005600-00005743 comparison between these approaches to N9HDoWaaoB4-00025-00005744-00005831 paganism N9HDoWaaoB4-00026-00005832-00005999 because what i'm generally interested in N9HDoWaaoB4-00027-00006000-00006159 regarding these subjects N9HDoWaaoB4-00028-00006160-00006334 is the argument that each perspective N9HDoWaaoB4-00029-00006335-00006534 has and how they get addressed N9HDoWaaoB4-00030-00006536-00006687 now i'm going to be dealing with trends N9HDoWaaoB4-00031-00006688-00006846 and broad strokes both among N9HDoWaaoB4-00032-00006847-00007078 eclectics and reconstructionists none of N9HDoWaaoB4-00033-00007079-00007246 these things are universals and both of N9HDoWaaoB4-00034-00007247-00007342 these movements are N9HDoWaaoB4-00035-00007343-00007527 wide and varied and filled with N9HDoWaaoB4-00036-00007528-00007678 individuals who are distinct from the N9HDoWaaoB4-00037-00007679-00007767 trends N9HDoWaaoB4-00038-00007768-00008070 including myself but let's get into it N9HDoWaaoB4-00039-00008072-00008263 so let's start with eclecticism N9HDoWaaoB4-00040-00008264-00008431 eclecticism has a few perspectives N9HDoWaaoB4-00041-00008432-00008567 within it but there are two main through N9HDoWaaoB4-00042-00008568-00008639 lines N9HDoWaaoB4-00043-00008640-00008807 one is that it pulls from several N9HDoWaaoB4-00044-00008808-00008967 spiritual traditions all over the world N9HDoWaaoB4-00045-00008968-00009119 and isn't really committed to one N9HDoWaaoB4-00046-00009120-00009383 specific cultural or religious tradition N9HDoWaaoB4-00047-00009384-00009527 another is it is rooted in the N9HDoWaaoB4-00048-00009528-00009727 experience of the practitioner N9HDoWaaoB4-00049-00009728-00009967 that spirituality is a personal path and N9HDoWaaoB4-00050-00009968-00010071 that experience N9HDoWaaoB4-00051-00010072-00010246 guides you on your journey but it needs N9HDoWaaoB4-00052-00010247-00010463 to be noted that experience often isn't N9HDoWaaoB4-00053-00010464-00010655 dependable there's an element of doubt N9HDoWaaoB4-00054-00010656-00010751 in ourselves N9HDoWaaoB4-00055-00010752-00010983 that both approaches face but eclectics N9HDoWaaoB4-00056-00010984-00011078 especially N9HDoWaaoB4-00057-00011079-00011238 can feel the weight of that doubt when N9HDoWaaoB4-00058-00011239-00011438 their practices are grounded largely N9HDoWaaoB4-00059-00011439-00011663 in personal experience and importantly N9HDoWaaoB4-00060-00011664-00011806 experience alone N9HDoWaaoB4-00061-00011807-00012038 can lead to wrong conclusions our N9HDoWaaoB4-00062-00012039-00012246 experiences are not always exactly what N9HDoWaaoB4-00063-00012247-00012351 they seem to be N9HDoWaaoB4-00064-00012352-00012542 and honestly any pagan not just N9HDoWaaoB4-00065-00012543-00012719 eclectics should be aware that the N9HDoWaaoB4-00066-00012720-00012807 danger of divine N9HDoWaaoB4-00067-00012808-00012974 experiences lies not in the experience N9HDoWaaoB4-00068-00012975-00013271 itself but in the interpretation N9HDoWaaoB4-00069-00013272-00013591 developing discernment is its own beast N9HDoWaaoB4-00070-00013591-00013807 reconstructionism shifts that grounding N9HDoWaaoB4-00071-00013808-00014007 away from experience and roots itself in N9HDoWaaoB4-00072-00014008-00014238 historical research and scholarship N9HDoWaaoB4-00073-00014240-00014407 though experience is still a huge part N9HDoWaaoB4-00074-00014408-00014655 of the equation the intention also N9HDoWaaoB4-00075-00014656-00014735 shifts where N9HDoWaaoB4-00076-00014736-00014943 instead of personalized exploration and N9HDoWaaoB4-00077-00014944-00015047 spirituality N9HDoWaaoB4-00078-00015047-00015279 reconstructionism aspires to rebuild an N9HDoWaaoB4-00079-00015280-00015455 ancient tradition in the modern world N9HDoWaaoB4-00080-00015456-00015663 with what information we have the N9HDoWaaoB4-00081-00015663-00015847 underlying justification being if N9HDoWaaoB4-00082-00015847-00015999 ancient peoples were connected to the N9HDoWaaoB4-00083-00016000-00016222 gods rebuilding those traditions to the N9HDoWaaoB4-00084-00016223-00016335 best of our ability N9HDoWaaoB4-00085-00016336-00016599 allows us to connect to the gods as well N9HDoWaaoB4-00086-00016600-00016703 therefore N9HDoWaaoB4-00087-00016704-00016927 history has primacy in validating our N9HDoWaaoB4-00088-00016928-00017030 spiritual quest N9HDoWaaoB4-00089-00017031-00017230 now leaning on history and the weight of N9HDoWaaoB4-00090-00017231-00017447 scholarship can give a sense of security N9HDoWaaoB4-00091-00017448-00017615 that appears to alleviate the doubts N9HDoWaaoB4-00092-00017616-00017750 eclectics face N9HDoWaaoB4-00093-00017751-00017958 however that security can become an N9HDoWaaoB4-00094-00017959-00018143 illusion of certainty N9HDoWaaoB4-00095-00018144-00018358 any study of history is going to carry N9HDoWaaoB4-00096-00018359-00018575 with it the bias of the historian N9HDoWaaoB4-00097-00018576-00018775 and the reader doing the research and N9HDoWaaoB4-00098-00018776-00018991 our historical sources themselves N9HDoWaaoB4-00099-00018992-00019247 carry biases of their own both written N9HDoWaaoB4-00100-00019248-00019399 and in terms of what archaeological N9HDoWaaoB4-00101-00019400-00019543 evidence we have available N9HDoWaaoB4-00102-00019544-00019799 for the study which can create an N9HDoWaaoB4-00103-00019800-00019935 incomplete picture N9HDoWaaoB4-00104-00019936-00020199 as such historical scholarship cannot N9HDoWaaoB4-00105-00020200-00020255 grant N9HDoWaaoB4-00106-00020256-00020471 certainty a discovery tomorrow could N9HDoWaaoB4-00107-00020472-00020558 overturn N9HDoWaaoB4-00108-00020559-00020886 decades of consensus and has it's part N9HDoWaaoB4-00109-00020887-00021014 of the game N9HDoWaaoB4-00110-00021015-00021343 so that uncertainty is still there N9HDoWaaoB4-00111-00021344-00021711 and will always be there as you can see N9HDoWaaoB4-00112-00021712-00021911 both approaches have their strengths and N9HDoWaaoB4-00113-00021912-00022014 weaknesses N9HDoWaaoB4-00114-00022015-00022158 and the division between them shouldn't N9HDoWaaoB4-00115-00022159-00022343 be as strong as it seems to be in our N9HDoWaaoB4-00116-00022344-00022439 communities N9HDoWaaoB4-00117-00022440-00022694 as eclecticism often references the N9HDoWaaoB4-00118-00022695-00022911 strategies of reconstructionism N9HDoWaaoB4-00119-00022912-00023091 in their exploration and N9HDoWaaoB4-00120-00023092-00023327 reconstructionism is incomplete N9HDoWaaoB4-00121-00023328-00023503 without elements of the eclectic N9HDoWaaoB4-00122-00023504-00023647 approach i think that N9HDoWaaoB4-00123-00023648-00023807 also let me talk about a personal pet N9HDoWaaoB4-00124-00023808-00023975 peeve here eclecticism is N9HDoWaaoB4-00125-00023976-00024335 wrongfully termed neopagan as opposed to N9HDoWaaoB4-00126-00024336-00024527 reconstructionism which often rejects N9HDoWaaoB4-00127-00024528-00024719 the term neopig and even seeing it as a N9HDoWaaoB4-00128-00024720-00024830 pejorative N9HDoWaaoB4-00129-00024831-00025094 but if we consider the term neopagan to N9HDoWaaoB4-00130-00025095-00025175 mean N9HDoWaaoB4-00131-00025176-00025430 new pagan movements reconstructionism N9HDoWaaoB4-00132-00025431-00025606 fits that definition as we're N9HDoWaaoB4-00133-00025607-00025814 not practicing the same religion as the N9HDoWaaoB4-00134-00025816-00026014 religion that we're reconstructing N9HDoWaaoB4-00135-00026016-00026255 we are practicing a reconstruction of N9HDoWaaoB4-00136-00026256-00026479 that faith out of old books and dirt N9HDoWaaoB4-00137-00026480-00026735 which isn't the same thing and on top of N9HDoWaaoB4-00138-00026736-00026918 that reconstructionist movements N9HDoWaaoB4-00139-00026919-00027135 are younger than modern eclectic N9HDoWaaoB4-00140-00027136-00027239 movements so N9HDoWaaoB4-00141-00027239-00027535 arguably the term fits us recons more N9HDoWaaoB4-00142-00027536-00027695 than it does eclectics N9HDoWaaoB4-00143-00027695-00027887 so if you're a recon and using the term N9HDoWaaoB4-00144-00027888-00028143 neopagan as a dismissal N9HDoWaaoB4-00145-00028144-00028470 you might need to look inward but N9HDoWaaoB4-00146-00028472-00028687 moving on the eclectic generally chases N9HDoWaaoB4-00147-00028688-00028870 engagement with the gods or exploration N9HDoWaaoB4-00148-00028872-00028983 of the self or N9HDoWaaoB4-00149-00028983-00029158 a relationship with an ambiguous higher N9HDoWaaoB4-00150-00029160-00029327 power that they rightfully and N9HDoWaaoB4-00151-00029327-00029431 justifiably N9HDoWaaoB4-00152-00029432-00029631 make no claims about other than having N9HDoWaaoB4-00153-00029632-00029807 seen a hint of it through their genuine N9HDoWaaoB4-00154-00029808-00029983 exploration of experience N9HDoWaaoB4-00155-00029983-00030167 the reconstructionist on the other hand N9HDoWaaoB4-00156-00030168-00030287 has more specific N9HDoWaaoB4-00157-00030288-00030502 goals in mind they generally have a N9HDoWaaoB4-00158-00030503-00030655 concrete idea of what it is that they're N9HDoWaaoB4-00159-00030656-00030767 reaching out to N9HDoWaaoB4-00160-00030768-00030902 and they're more likely to be what's N9HDoWaaoB4-00161-00030903-00031118 considered a hard polytheist or what i N9HDoWaaoB4-00162-00031119-00031262 just call polytheist N9HDoWaaoB4-00163-00031263-00031423 the emphasis on history in the N9HDoWaaoB4-00164-00031424-00031574 reconstructionist approach N9HDoWaaoB4-00165-00031575-00031774 allows the justification of more N9HDoWaaoB4-00166-00031775-00031879 specificity N9HDoWaaoB4-00167-00031880-00032055 in discussions of deity there are N9HDoWaaoB4-00168-00032056-00032231 attributes of the gods generally N9HDoWaaoB4-00169-00032232-00032511 and of particular gods specifically thor N9HDoWaaoB4-00170-00032512-00032646 has certain attributes N9HDoWaaoB4-00171-00032647-00032831 as dictated by the historical records N9HDoWaaoB4-00172-00032832-00032959 related to thor N9HDoWaaoB4-00173-00032960-00033287 same with odin or poseidon or anubis N9HDoWaaoB4-00174-00033288-00033479 an eclectic might follow these gods but N9HDoWaaoB4-00175-00033480-00033687 is doing so a little bit differently N9HDoWaaoB4-00176-00033688-00033887 the eclectic is trying things out in N9HDoWaaoB4-00177-00033888-00034046 spirituality often pulling from an N9HDoWaaoB4-00178-00034047-00034183 assortment of cultures N9HDoWaaoB4-00179-00034184-00034351 all around the world in order to get as N9HDoWaaoB4-00180-00034352-00034583 much perspective as they can N9HDoWaaoB4-00181-00034584-00034887 the experience for them has primacy N9HDoWaaoB4-00182-00034888-00035046 and they might reach and grasp and N9HDoWaaoB4-00183-00035047-00035215 combine traditional practices N9HDoWaaoB4-00184-00035216-00035439 from unrelated areas of spirituality in N9HDoWaaoB4-00185-00035440-00035655 order to explore an element of their own N9HDoWaaoB4-00186-00035656-00035887 spirituality that the practice may not N9HDoWaaoB4-00187-00035888-00035967 have been quite N9HDoWaaoB4-00188-00035968-00036174 intended for originally and while N9HDoWaaoB4-00189-00036175-00036335 there's nothing inherently wrong with N9HDoWaaoB4-00190-00036336-00036423 this approach N9HDoWaaoB4-00191-00036424-00036607 it can land you in a bit of trouble when N9HDoWaaoB4-00192-00036608-00036783 the experiment wanders into a culture N9HDoWaaoB4-00193-00036784-00036911 with oppression dynamics N9HDoWaaoB4-00194-00036912-00037102 or becomes appropriation due to the lack N9HDoWaaoB4-00195-00037103-00037302 of respect toward a tradition that's N9HDoWaaoB4-00196-00037303-00037439 being approached when the eclectic N9HDoWaaoB4-00197-00037440-00037623 pilfers a concept into their grab bag of N9HDoWaaoB4-00198-00037624-00037774 spiritual tools N9HDoWaaoB4-00199-00037775-00037999 the abuse of consumerism of white sage N9HDoWaaoB4-00200-00038000-00038167 will often come up around this issue N9HDoWaaoB4-00201-00038168-00038367 or the often insensitive approach to N9HDoWaaoB4-00202-00038368-00038487 native american or african N9HDoWaaoB4-00203-00038488-00038599 spiritualities N9HDoWaaoB4-00204-00038600-00038767 by people looking to take from living N9HDoWaaoB4-00205-00038768-00038918 traditions without concern for the N9HDoWaaoB4-00206-00038919-00039127 cultures and peoples attached to them N9HDoWaaoB4-00207-00039128-00039439 especially especially when bastardized N9HDoWaaoB4-00208-00039440-00039574 versions of these traditions N9HDoWaaoB4-00209-00039575-00039823 are taught to others as correct N9HDoWaaoB4-00210-00039824-00040007 regardless of profit N9HDoWaaoB4-00211-00040008-00040102 this is not to say that N9HDoWaaoB4-00212-00040103-00040311 reconstructionists are immune to this N9HDoWaaoB4-00213-00040312-00040502 they can be just as guilty of this same N9HDoWaaoB4-00214-00040503-00040702 action approaching something with N9HDoWaaoB4-00215-00040703-00040951 a historical or scholastic method does N9HDoWaaoB4-00216-00040952-00041190 not override the oppression dynamics N9HDoWaaoB4-00217-00041191-00041423 as often historical scholarship is N9HDoWaaoB4-00218-00041424-00041583 dripping with that same oppression N9HDoWaaoB4-00219-00041584-00041671 narrative N9HDoWaaoB4-00220-00041672-00041967 history as much as i love it is steeped N9HDoWaaoB4-00221-00041968-00042127 in the bias of narrative N9HDoWaaoB4-00222-00042128-00042335 and often that narrative is of one N9HDoWaaoB4-00223-00042336-00042518 attempting to justify the fact N9HDoWaaoB4-00224-00042519-00042807 that their culture crushed another this N9HDoWaaoB4-00225-00042808-00042927 should not be a surprise to any N9HDoWaaoB4-00226-00042928-00043046 reconstructionist N9HDoWaaoB4-00227-00043047-00043223 who has dug around the history of pagan N9HDoWaaoB4-00228-00043224-00043374 faiths and found writing on them in N9HDoWaaoB4-00229-00043375-00043446 antiquity N9HDoWaaoB4-00230-00043447-00043702 even up to the past decade where our N9HDoWaaoB4-00231-00043703-00043918 religions have been described in such a N9HDoWaaoB4-00232-00043919-00043974 way N9HDoWaaoB4-00233-00043975-00044127 that is steeped in biased N9HDoWaaoB4-00234-00044128-00044295 misrepresentation and assumptions N9HDoWaaoB4-00235-00044296-00044399 without evidence N9HDoWaaoB4-00236-00044400-00044646 we are painted as devil worshipers as N9HDoWaaoB4-00237-00044647-00044871 simplistic barbarians as liars as N9HDoWaaoB4-00238-00044872-00045062 atheists as secret christians N9HDoWaaoB4-00239-00045063-00045390 as anything but what we are and in the N9HDoWaaoB4-00240-00045391-00045574 context of religious traditions subject N9HDoWaaoB4-00241-00045575-00045679 to this dynamic N9HDoWaaoB4-00242-00045680-00045958 the problem is multiplied and without N9HDoWaaoB4-00243-00045959-00046023 sufficient N9HDoWaaoB4-00244-00046024-00046246 representation for correction but let's N9HDoWaaoB4-00245-00046247-00046439 talk about the substantive difference N9HDoWaaoB4-00246-00046440-00046615 between eclectics and reconstructionists N9HDoWaaoB4-00247-00046616-00046846 that often gets discussed between them N9HDoWaaoB4-00248-00046847-00047046 recons will save eclectics that they N9HDoWaaoB4-00249-00047047-00047239 don't seem to care about context N9HDoWaaoB4-00250-00047240-00047423 that their approach is too wide with N9HDoWaaoB4-00251-00047424-00047590 nothing to focus it allowing them to N9HDoWaaoB4-00252-00047591-00047623 just N9HDoWaaoB4-00253-00047624-00047807 believe whatever they want regardless of N9HDoWaaoB4-00254-00047808-00048062 reality the term upg N9HDoWaaoB4-00255-00048063-00048279 unverified personal gnosis seems to have N9HDoWaaoB4-00256-00048280-00048511 started as a way to dismiss eclectics N9HDoWaaoB4-00257-00048512-00048686 from discussing their experiences that N9HDoWaaoB4-00258-00048687-00048799 are divorced from historical N9HDoWaaoB4-00259-00048800-00048902 justification N9HDoWaaoB4-00260-00048903-00049095 as they are unverified by history and N9HDoWaaoB4-00261-00049096-00049302 therefore just a fluke experience N9HDoWaaoB4-00262-00049303-00049599 a hiccup of the brain and dismissible on N9HDoWaaoB4-00263-00049600-00049695 that basis N9HDoWaaoB4-00264-00049696-00049902 and it's true that eclecticism will N9HDoWaaoB4-00265-00049903-00050062 sometimes be done without any focusing N9HDoWaaoB4-00266-00050063-00050135 element N9HDoWaaoB4-00267-00050136-00050295 and leave the eclectic open to some N9HDoWaaoB4-00268-00050296-00050527 fairly out there beliefs guided simply N9HDoWaaoB4-00269-00050528-00050799 by anecdotes and shaky justification N9HDoWaaoB4-00270-00050800-00050990 this leaves them open to pseudoscience N9HDoWaaoB4-00271-00050991-00051174 and potentially harmful beliefs and we N9HDoWaaoB4-00272-00051175-00051399 see this among eclectics some of the N9HDoWaaoB4-00273-00051400-00051494 most aggressive N9HDoWaaoB4-00274-00051495-00051711 anti-science movements in paganism such N9HDoWaaoB4-00275-00051712-00051999 as anti-vax pagans are eclectics N9HDoWaaoB4-00276-00052000-00052207 and that can and should damn well be N9HDoWaaoB4-00277-00052208-00052430 criticized eclectics however will point N9HDoWaaoB4-00278-00052432-00052582 out to recons that they are far too N9HDoWaaoB4-00279-00052583-00052647 stuffy N9HDoWaaoB4-00280-00052648-00052823 that not everyone can go rifling through N9HDoWaaoB4-00281-00052824-00052966 books and learn the vast history of N9HDoWaaoB4-00282-00052967-00053150 every culture in the world N9HDoWaaoB4-00283-00053151-00053319 this restricts the accessibility of N9HDoWaaoB4-00284-00053320-00053479 spirituality and makes it so that you N9HDoWaaoB4-00285-00053479-00053566 have to be this N9HDoWaaoB4-00286-00053567-00053719 learned scholar in order to have any N9HDoWaaoB4-00287-00053720-00053935 connection with deity it's classist it's N9HDoWaaoB4-00288-00053936-00054071 elitist and furthermore N9HDoWaaoB4-00289-00054072-00054350 eclectic practices work if the gods N9HDoWaaoB4-00290-00054351-00054503 required us to approach them in this N9HDoWaaoB4-00291-00054504-00054711 certain way that the recons demand with N9HDoWaaoB4-00292-00054712-00054894 their dogmatic approach to religion N9HDoWaaoB4-00293-00054895-00055071 that eclectics would not have meaningful N9HDoWaaoB4-00294-00055072-00055342 experiences with spirituality N9HDoWaaoB4-00295-00055344-00055663 and yet they do and this objection has N9HDoWaaoB4-00296-00055664-00055775 to land with any honest N9HDoWaaoB4-00297-00055776-00055926 reconstructionist N9HDoWaaoB4-00298-00055927-00056079 and actually it brings the point home of N9HDoWaaoB4-00299-00056079-00056287 what we're discussing in the first place N9HDoWaaoB4-00300-00056288-00056454 why are we even bothering looking N9HDoWaaoB4-00301-00056455-00056599 through history to rebuild anything at N9HDoWaaoB4-00302-00056600-00056703 all N9HDoWaaoB4-00303-00056704-00056903 isn't it the case that the sources we're N9HDoWaaoB4-00304-00056904-00057063 reading were once traditional stories N9HDoWaaoB4-00305-00057064-00057142 within a culture N9HDoWaaoB4-00306-00057144-00057471 weren't they once upg yes N9HDoWaaoB4-00307-00057472-00057647 furthermore the strategy of saying your N9HDoWaaoB4-00308-00057648-00057847 spiritual experiences are invalid unless N9HDoWaaoB4-00309-00057848-00058007 they're found in history as arbitrary N9HDoWaaoB4-00310-00058008-00058111 anyway N9HDoWaaoB4-00311-00058112-00058294 on what basis are we applying this N9HDoWaaoB4-00312-00058295-00058463 standard when comparing to spirituality N9HDoWaaoB4-00313-00058464-00058526 today N9HDoWaaoB4-00314-00058527-00058711 it's not like there are more historical N9HDoWaaoB4-00315-00058712-00058919 examples than there are modern examples N9HDoWaaoB4-00316-00058920-00059175 and historical examples aren't more N9HDoWaaoB4-00317-00059176-00059382 accessible they're infinitely less so N9HDoWaaoB4-00318-00059383-00059550 you can't interview any of these ancient N9HDoWaaoB4-00319-00059551-00059823 people but you can with people who exist N9HDoWaaoB4-00320-00059824-00059919 today N9HDoWaaoB4-00321-00059920-00060063 the strategy that reconstructionists N9HDoWaaoB4-00322-00060064-00060366 will often engage in of dismissing upg N9HDoWaaoB4-00323-00060367-00060750 simply on the basis of it being only upg N9HDoWaaoB4-00324-00060751-00061015 is to undermine themselves upg can be N9HDoWaaoB4-00325-00061016-00061063 wrong N9HDoWaaoB4-00326-00061064-00061303 sure but if it was always wrong there'd N9HDoWaaoB4-00327-00061304-00061423 be no justification for the N9HDoWaaoB4-00328-00061424-00061550 reconstructionist to have their N9HDoWaaoB4-00329-00061551-00061735 spirituality in the first place N9HDoWaaoB4-00330-00061736-00061942 in fact to do this is to be a bad N9HDoWaaoB4-00331-00061944-00062142 reconstructionist as you wind up gutting N9HDoWaaoB4-00332-00062144-00062311 the ability to establish N9HDoWaaoB4-00333-00062312-00062630 spg or vpg as you've undermined the N9HDoWaaoB4-00334-00062632-00062799 first step of reaching either of those N9HDoWaaoB4-00335-00062800-00062871 stages N9HDoWaaoB4-00336-00062872-00063006 my point here is is that often N9HDoWaaoB4-00337-00063007-00063166 reconstructionism is strawmanned and N9HDoWaaoB4-00338-00063167-00063254 misused N9HDoWaaoB4-00339-00063255-00063366 even by self-proclaimed N9HDoWaaoB4-00340-00063367-00063535 reconstructionists the point of N9HDoWaaoB4-00341-00063536-00063647 reconstructionism N9HDoWaaoB4-00342-00063648-00063847 has much to do with the desire of the N9HDoWaaoB4-00343-00063848-00064054 practitioner to connect with an approach N9HDoWaaoB4-00344-00064055-00064182 to spirituality N9HDoWaaoB4-00345-00064183-00064438 far more ancient than themselves as we N9HDoWaaoB4-00346-00064439-00064535 have felt the pull N9HDoWaaoB4-00347-00064536-00064838 of the gods so the method we turn to is N9HDoWaaoB4-00348-00064839-00065023 to look to the example of people who N9HDoWaaoB4-00349-00065024-00065191 were closer to these gods N9HDoWaaoB4-00350-00065191-00065366 when their worship was standard in N9HDoWaaoB4-00351-00065367-00065671 culture those practices worked for them N9HDoWaaoB4-00352-00065672-00065887 so they may as well work for us and N9HDoWaaoB4-00353-00065888-00066055 often the reason why we're pulled to N9HDoWaaoB4-00354-00066056-00066103 this N9HDoWaaoB4-00355-00066104-00066375 is the same reason eclectics are we want N9HDoWaaoB4-00356-00066376-00066582 to connect with the gods N9HDoWaaoB4-00357-00066583-00066847 and the dismissal of upg simply because N9HDoWaaoB4-00358-00066848-00067055 it's upg and reconstruction in circles N9HDoWaaoB4-00359-00067056-00067350 is to undermine the very basis of why N9HDoWaaoB4-00360-00067351-00067543 many of us are even spiritual N9HDoWaaoB4-00361-00067544-00067791 in the first place this dismissal also N9HDoWaaoB4-00362-00067792-00067950 runs the risk of an obsession with N9HDoWaaoB4-00363-00067951-00068159 reconstruction to the point of rigidity N9HDoWaaoB4-00364-00068160-00068350 where we fossilize even the versions of N9HDoWaaoB4-00365-00068351-00068567 our faith practice in the modern day N9HDoWaaoB4-00366-00068568-00068775 because we're afraid of the uncertainty N9HDoWaaoB4-00367-00068776-00068919 of eclecticism N9HDoWaaoB4-00368-00068920-00069199 this over correction smothers the joy N9HDoWaaoB4-00369-00069200-00069247 from N9HDoWaaoB4-00370-00069248-00069479 the very direct experiences which cause N9HDoWaaoB4-00371-00069480-00069694 us pagans to grow out of the ground in N9HDoWaaoB4-00372-00069695-00069806 the first place N9HDoWaaoB4-00373-00069807-00069935 if these faiths had been allowed to N9HDoWaaoB4-00374-00069936-00070119 survive into the modern day they would N9HDoWaaoB4-00375-00070120-00070294 have continued to evolve and change with N9HDoWaaoB4-00376-00070295-00070455 the cultures that practiced them N9HDoWaaoB4-00377-00070456-00070591 and as we've seen in the historical N9HDoWaaoB4-00378-00070592-00070823 record they did even back then N9HDoWaaoB4-00379-00070824-00070982 so how do these changes happen do you N9HDoWaaoB4-00380-00070983-00071119 think that there's some arbitrary date N9HDoWaaoB4-00381-00071120-00071238 in history in which N9HDoWaaoB4-00382-00071239-00071550 upg suddenly ceased in its validity or N9HDoWaaoB4-00383-00071551-00071599 is there some N9HDoWaaoB4-00384-00071600-00071759 modern bias at work in the way that we N9HDoWaaoB4-00385-00071760-00071982 approach these things what right do we N9HDoWaaoB4-00386-00071983-00072038 have N9HDoWaaoB4-00387-00072039-00072303 to strip the agency of the gods in how N9HDoWaaoB4-00388-00072304-00072455 they choose to interact with potential N9HDoWaaoB4-00389-00072456-00072631 worshipers N9HDoWaaoB4-00390-00072632-00072871 none likewise the eclectic N9HDoWaaoB4-00391-00072872-00073047 criticism that historical scholarship N9HDoWaaoB4-00392-00073048-00073247 can be easily discarded doesn't quite N9HDoWaaoB4-00393-00073248-00073359 work either N9HDoWaaoB4-00394-00073360-00073519 as the distinction between what N9HDoWaaoB4-00395-00073520-00073679 historical information eclectics will N9HDoWaaoB4-00396-00073680-00073847 use for their practice and what they N9HDoWaaoB4-00397-00073848-00073959 don't use N9HDoWaaoB4-00398-00073960-00074126 align directly with what is widely N9HDoWaaoB4-00399-00074127-00074382 available such as associations between N9HDoWaaoB4-00400-00074383-00074431 zeus N9HDoWaaoB4-00401-00074432-00074694 and lightning or thor and lightning or N9HDoWaaoB4-00402-00074695-00074750 set N9HDoWaaoB4-00403-00074751-00075135 and well lightning but the associations N9HDoWaaoB4-00404-00075136-00075343 with zeus and hospitality or thor N9HDoWaaoB4-00405-00075344-00075671 and protection and set with courage are N9HDoWaaoB4-00406-00075672-00075879 less known in our culture so the N9HDoWaaoB4-00407-00075880-00076071 associations aren't quite made as often N9HDoWaaoB4-00408-00076072-00076206 with an eclecticism N9HDoWaaoB4-00409-00076207-00076399 easing accessibility of information N9HDoWaaoB4-00410-00076400-00076606 benefits both camps N9HDoWaaoB4-00411-00076607-00076775 as the eclectic has more tools with N9HDoWaaoB4-00412-00076776-00076959 which to explore their experiences with N9HDoWaaoB4-00413-00076960-00077031 thor N9HDoWaaoB4-00414-00077032-00077262 and the recon has a new aspect of zeus N9HDoWaaoB4-00415-00077263-00077431 with which to honor him N9HDoWaaoB4-00416-00077432-00077606 and either could find the confidence to N9HDoWaaoB4-00417-00077607-00077862 reach out to set during a trying time N9HDoWaaoB4-00418-00077863-00078087 so the trick is to make that information N9HDoWaaoB4-00419-00078088-00078223 more accessible N9HDoWaaoB4-00420-00078224-00078543 not dismiss that which is less N9HDoWaaoB4-00421-00078544-00078750 accessible if this historical approach N9HDoWaaoB4-00422-00078751-00078919 didn't matter to eclectics they wouldn't N9HDoWaaoB4-00423-00078920-00079094 be so fascinated with the practices that N9HDoWaaoB4-00424-00079095-00079279 they themselves tout as N9HDoWaaoB4-00425-00079280-00079494 ancient just without the evidence to N9HDoWaaoB4-00426-00079495-00079662 actually back up the claim N9HDoWaaoB4-00427-00079663-00079894 revisionist history is a huge contention N9HDoWaaoB4-00428-00079895-00080071 point between reconstructionists and N9HDoWaaoB4-00429-00080072-00080167 eclectics N9HDoWaaoB4-00430-00080168-00080382 and eclectic practice is perfectly valid N9HDoWaaoB4-00431-00080383-00080606 but revising history in order to give N9HDoWaaoB4-00432-00080607-00080767 your practices authority N9HDoWaaoB4-00433-00080768-00081111 is not upg can be valid on its own N9HDoWaaoB4-00434-00081112-00081367 a practice can be valid on its own N9HDoWaaoB4-00435-00081368-00081647 giving it a revisionist justification N9HDoWaaoB4-00436-00081648-00081950 removes that validity this brings in the N9HDoWaaoB4-00437-00081951-00082150 issue of lording one's upg over others N9HDoWaaoB4-00438-00082151-00082350 which is simply an abusive practice N9HDoWaaoB4-00439-00082351-00082550 saying to bring up a totally random N9HDoWaaoB4-00440-00082551-00082694 example that N9HDoWaaoB4-00441-00082695-00082879 people can't criticize your wearing of N9HDoWaaoB4-00442-00082880-00083087 the black sun a uniquely nazi symbol N9HDoWaaoB4-00443-00083088-00083247 created by the nazis for their nazi N9HDoWaaoB4-00444-00083248-00083318 castle N9HDoWaaoB4-00445-00083319-00083631 because you have upg that dionysus gave N9HDoWaaoB4-00446-00083632-00083799 it to you in a dream doesn't track N9HDoWaaoB4-00447-00083800-00084150 and yes people can criticize you for it N9HDoWaaoB4-00448-00084151-00084279 and i really wish i made that up but i N9HDoWaaoB4-00449-00084280-00084479 didn't N9HDoWaaoB4-00450-00084480-00084750 but using upg as an excuse to wear a N9HDoWaaoB4-00451-00084751-00084871 nazi symbol N9HDoWaaoB4-00452-00084872-00085167 can and will net you criticism even if N9HDoWaaoB4-00453-00085168-00085271 you whinge about it N9HDoWaaoB4-00454-00085272-00085487 and reconstructionists will lord upg N9HDoWaaoB4-00455-00085488-00085638 over others as well when N9HDoWaaoB4-00456-00085639-00085806 they claim that the only way the gods N9HDoWaaoB4-00457-00085807-00085991 interact with us is through N9HDoWaaoB4-00458-00085992-00086238 their version of reconstruction just N9HDoWaaoB4-00459-00086239-00086303 because N9HDoWaaoB4-00460-00086304-00086543 you found your practice meaningful N9HDoWaaoB4-00461-00086544-00086679 doesn't mean it's the N9HDoWaaoB4-00462-00086680-00086918 only meaningful practice you might come N9HDoWaaoB4-00463-00086919-00087031 away from all of this with the N9HDoWaaoB4-00464-00087032-00087206 impression that we're all so N9HDoWaaoB4-00465-00087207-00087415 why bother with community at all maybe N9HDoWaaoB4-00466-00087416-00087511 you should just N9HDoWaaoB4-00467-00087512-00087631 run off into the woods somewhere and N9HDoWaaoB4-00468-00087632-00087782 avoid interaction with anyone who's even N9HDoWaaoB4-00469-00087783-00087903 possibly thought about the gods at some N9HDoWaaoB4-00470-00087904-00088031 point N9HDoWaaoB4-00471-00088032-00088287 and i've been there honestly i'm still N9HDoWaaoB4-00472-00088288-00088375 there but N9HDoWaaoB4-00473-00088376-00088487 there's a few things that we can N9HDoWaaoB4-00474-00088488-00088671 recognize if you want to express that N9HDoWaaoB4-00475-00088672-00088855 your position is the right one N9HDoWaaoB4-00476-00088856-00089038 you know often you will back it up with N9HDoWaaoB4-00477-00089039-00089159 the justification N9HDoWaaoB4-00478-00089160-00089423 and sometimes people will get so focused N9HDoWaaoB4-00479-00089424-00089575 on their own lens through which they N9HDoWaaoB4-00480-00089576-00089726 view spirituality N9HDoWaaoB4-00481-00089727-00089918 they forget that there are other lenses N9HDoWaaoB4-00482-00089919-00090182 through which others view spirituality N9HDoWaaoB4-00483-00090183-00090318 there are multiple avenues to N9HDoWaaoB4-00484-00090319-00090455 justification which is part of what N9HDoWaaoB4-00485-00090456-00090615 makes paganism and polytheism so N9HDoWaaoB4-00486-00090616-00090767 interesting in the first place N9HDoWaaoB4-00487-00090768-00090911 and i've made this point before in other N9HDoWaaoB4-00488-00090912-00091159 videos but we lack the ability to have N9HDoWaaoB4-00489-00091160-00091311 any absolute certainty about the nature N9HDoWaaoB4-00490-00091312-00091575 of reality in general much less the gods N9HDoWaaoB4-00491-00091576-00091806 this problem has plagued philosophers N9HDoWaaoB4-00492-00091807-00091982 going back to socrates N9HDoWaaoB4-00493-00091983-00092175 it's the foundation of skepticism as N9HDoWaaoB4-00494-00092176-00092423 first introduced by ancient polytheists N9HDoWaaoB4-00495-00092424-00092638 it's mentioned again by cicero of rome N9HDoWaaoB4-00496-00092639-00092799 and is still discussed N9HDoWaaoB4-00497-00092800-00093079 by philosophers today but we have our N9HDoWaaoB4-00498-00093080-00093191 ideas N9HDoWaaoB4-00499-00093192-00093367 models that we build out of observing a N9HDoWaaoB4-00500-00093368-00093511 series of correlations through the N9HDoWaaoB4-00501-00093512-00093662 limited windows that we have into the N9HDoWaaoB4-00502-00093663-00093782 outside world N9HDoWaaoB4-00503-00093783-00093918 this is honestly the foundation of N9HDoWaaoB4-00504-00093919-00094079 science at the end of the day and within N9HDoWaaoB4-00505-00094080-00094231 philosophy we have naturalism N9HDoWaaoB4-00506-00094232-00094526 physicalism idealism even solipsism N9HDoWaaoB4-00507-00094527-00094694 all of which have their fair and valid N9HDoWaaoB4-00508-00094695-00094887 justifications and coming back to N9HDoWaaoB4-00509-00094888-00094967 paganism N9HDoWaaoB4-00510-00094968-00095174 the situation is very similar with the N9HDoWaaoB4-00511-00095175-00095406 eclectic and reconstructionist approach N9HDoWaaoB4-00512-00095407-00095687 spiritually they have very similar goals N9HDoWaaoB4-00513-00095688-00095847 they just have a different approach N9HDoWaaoB4-00514-00095848-00096103 to reaching those goals so why are we N9HDoWaaoB4-00515-00096104-00096247 shaming those differences N9HDoWaaoB4-00516-00096248-00096494 that amount to simple differences what N9HDoWaaoB4-00517-00096495-00096687 we should probably be focusing on as N9HDoWaaoB4-00518-00096688-00096799 eclectics and recons N9HDoWaaoB4-00519-00096800-00096959 floating down the same tiny river in the N9HDoWaaoB4-00520-00096960-00097159 same tiny boat is that claiming N9HDoWaaoB4-00521-00097160-00097311 superiority over each other N9HDoWaaoB4-00522-00097312-00097535 is a waste of time that could be spent N9HDoWaaoB4-00523-00097536-00097694 enjoying the religion instead of arguing N9HDoWaaoB4-00524-00097695-00097791 about it N9HDoWaaoB4-00525-00097792-00097967 it wastes the collective energy of the N9HDoWaaoB4-00526-00097968-00098206 community that is better spent N9HDoWaaoB4-00527-00098207-00098438 identifying the actually harmful beliefs N9HDoWaaoB4-00528-00098439-00098559 and practices N9HDoWaaoB4-00529-00098560-00098823 into which we sometimes stumble pulling N9HDoWaaoB4-00530-00098824-00098943 each other out of them N9HDoWaaoB4-00531-00098944-00099174 and actually growing in our individual N9HDoWaaoB4-00532-00099175-00099335 faiths and traditions N9HDoWaaoB4-00533-00099336-00099511 i've learned during my time as a recon N9HDoWaaoB4-00534-00099512-00099703 that we have a pile of dusty books with N9HDoWaaoB4-00535-00099704-00099894 a wealth of information N9HDoWaaoB4-00536-00099895-00100062 and we can be the people that eclectics N9HDoWaaoB4-00537-00100063-00100182 can come to for information and N9HDoWaaoB4-00538-00100183-00100303 clarification N9HDoWaaoB4-00539-00100304-00100543 on the histories of our various faiths N9HDoWaaoB4-00540-00100544-00100679 and provide them with a wealth of N9HDoWaaoB4-00541-00100680-00100903 resources on what they seek N9HDoWaaoB4-00542-00100904-00101103 but eclectics often have far more N9HDoWaaoB4-00543-00101104-00101294 knowledge on what it's like to actually N9HDoWaaoB4-00544-00101295-00101415 experience N9HDoWaaoB4-00545-00101416-00101679 and experiment with our faith and we can N9HDoWaaoB4-00546-00101680-00101887 damn well learn from them too N9HDoWaaoB4-00547-00101888-00102159 and should and with that hail to my N9HDoWaaoB4-00548-00102160-00102374 patrons for making this content possible N9HDoWaaoB4-00549-00102375-00102582 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Ns5-zuBg8JI-00024-00014209-00014419 foreign Ns5-zuBg8JI-00025-00014419-00014735 my gun's gonna break bro it's at 87 Ns5-zuBg8JI-00026-00014736-00015143 durability already this thing's toast Ns5-zuBg8JI-00027-00015144-00015538 this thing's toasted Ns5-zuBg8JI-00028-00015540-00016025 I thought two of them went in too Ns5-zuBg8JI-00029-00016026-00016193 I gotta get out of this raid there's Ns5-zuBg8JI-00030-00016194-00016415 more people downstairs from like from Ns5-zuBg8JI-00031-00016416-00016571 that group with the guy that I killed Ns5-zuBg8JI-00032-00016572-00016847 but my gun's gonna Jam Ns5-zuBg8JI-00033-00016848-00017027 I heard him healing I thought he was Ns5-zuBg8JI-00034-00017028-00018580 inside right around the corner Ns5-zuBg8JI-00035-00018581-00018772 the load back so I shot some people Ns5-zuBg8JI-00036-00018773-00019079 let's hope [__] Ns5-zuBg8JI-00037-00019080-00019289 multiplayer game doesn't need quests and Ns5-zuBg8JI-00038-00019290-00019564 stuff like I because if you if you make Ns5-zuBg8JI-00039-00019565-00019793 a game focused on quests Ns5-zuBg8JI-00040-00019794-00020021 once people are done with the quests Ns5-zuBg8JI-00041-00020022-00020213 there's nothing to do you need to make Ns5-zuBg8JI-00042-00020214-00020464 the gameplay like sustainable on it on Ns5-zuBg8JI-00043-00020465-00020663 its own Ns5-zuBg8JI-00044-00020664-00020891 maybe you could add quests but like the Ns5-zuBg8JI-00045-00020892-00021136 first first thing should be like a good Ns5-zuBg8JI-00046-00021137-00021286 gameplay Loop that keeps people Ns5-zuBg8JI-00047-00021287-00022103 interested Ns5-zuBg8JI-00048-00022104-00022385 damn this gun's gases look at that thing Ns5-zuBg8JI-00049-00022386-00023219 you got the mini Mosin Ns5-zuBg8JI-00050-00023220-00023464 yo and did we just have a twitch baby Ns5-zuBg8JI-00051-00023465-00023747 name Ns5-zuBg8JI-00052-00023748-00024257 I guess so Ns5-zuBg8JI-00053-00024258-00024935 when I drop my bag Ns5-zuBg8JI-00054-00024936-00026362 Chad Where'd I drop it Ns5-zuBg8JI-00055-00026363-00026668 is it here oh Ns5-zuBg8JI-00056-00026669-00027089 would you look at that Ns5-zuBg8JI-00057-00027089-00027424 oh come on Stadium I never really played Ns5-zuBg8JI-00058-00027425-00027758 Pokemon games I played like Ns5-zuBg8JI-00059-00027758-00028133 [Music] Ns5-zuBg8JI-00060-00028133-00028499 Pokemon Red Ns5-zuBg8JI-00061-00028500-00029862 poor guy Ns5-zuBg8JI-00062-00029863-00030089 brother you cannot pull out a grenade Ns5-zuBg8JI-00063-00030089-00030346 that close I played Pokemon Red back in Ns5-zuBg8JI-00064-00030347-00030707 the day and that was it really Ns5-zuBg8JI-00065-00030708-00030935 Pokemon Snap was that the [__] where you Ns5-zuBg8JI-00066-00030936-00031390 were like the wildlife photographer Ns5-zuBg8JI-00067-00031391-00031858 blessed thanks to the prime min Ns5-zuBg8JI-00068-00031860-00032218 hey yo thanks for the prayer Ns5-zuBg8JI-00069-00032219-00033161 good I I don't think I ever played it Ns5-zuBg8JI-00070-00033162-00034031 scarves Ns5-zuBg8JI-00071-00034032-00034487 well that scared the [__] out of me Ns5-zuBg8JI-00072-00034488-00034811 anyone else just pooped themselves Ns5-zuBg8JI-00073-00034812-00036323 this guy was level 45 how Ns5-zuBg8JI-00074-00036324-00036581 Jay thank you very much bro Bob sure and Ns5-zuBg8JI-00075-00036582-00037001 fugazi thank you Paper Mario again never Ns5-zuBg8JI-00076-00037002-00037318 really played many of those games Ns5-zuBg8JI-00077-00037319-00037583 I played Mario on like Ns5-zuBg8JI-00078-00037584-00037961 Game Boy Ns5-zuBg8JI-00079-00037962-00038261 but I never owned the only Nintendo Ns5-zuBg8JI-00080-00038262-00038717 console I ever owned was N64 and then I Ns5-zuBg8JI-00081-00038718-00038824 had Ns5-zuBg8JI-00082-00038825-00038999 Game Boy Ns5-zuBg8JI-00083-00039000-00039299 and Game Boy Advance that was it never Ns5-zuBg8JI-00084-00039300-00039671 had anything else from Nintendo Ns5-zuBg8JI-00085-00039672-00039874 and yeah Mario Ns5-zuBg8JI-00086-00039875-00040217 bro I'm from New York we say Mario Ns5-zuBg8JI-00087-00040218-00040390 get used to it all right that's just how Ns5-zuBg8JI-00088-00040391-00040930 it is Ns5-zuBg8JI-00089-00040931-00041633 I don't know what to tell you Ns5-zuBg8JI-00090-00041634-00041915 I say coffee I say chocolate I say Mario Ns5-zuBg8JI-00091-00041916-00042190 I say orange like Ns5-zuBg8JI-00092-00042191-00042527 this is just the way it is all right Ns5-zuBg8JI-00093-00042528-00042718 you're from New York Buffalo bro that's Ns5-zuBg8JI-00094-00042719-00043180 not even New York that's like Ns5-zuBg8JI-00095-00043181-00044105 I'm talking Long Island in New York City Ns5-zuBg8JI-00096-00044106-00046645 it's glucosamine Ns5-zuBg8JI-00097-00046646-00047062 [Music] Ns5-zuBg8JI-00098-00047063-00047812 where in the hell are you going Ns5-zuBg8JI-00099-00047813-00048605 22 injector but Ns5-zuBg8JI-00100-00048606-00048835 Europe Ns5-zuBg8JI-00101-00048836-00049339 sending love from upstate NY Tony Ns5-zuBg8JI-00102-00049340-00049667 36 months when is my room going to be Ns5-zuBg8JI-00103-00049668-00052126 done at home Ns5-zuBg8JI-00104-00052127-00053621 did I kill that guy on the swing Ns5-zuBg8JI-00105-00053622-00055241 oh Ns5-zuBg8JI-00107-00058848-00059050 those dudes got toasted that first guy Ns5-zuBg8JI-00108-00059051-00059230 song I killed too Ns5-zuBg8JI-00109-00059232-00059441 yeah I saw that light on the door I Ns5-zuBg8JI-00110-00059441-00059597 don't know if it was his light bugs or Ns5-zuBg8JI-00111-00059598-00059782 someone else's that's why I went and Ns5-zuBg8JI-00112-00059783-00060125 just peaked it real quick Ns5-zuBg8JI-00113-00060126-00060461 juice Cannon sold out it's yup Ns5-zuBg8JI-00114-00060462-00061115 you guys bought the [__] out of it Ns5-zuBg8JI-00115-00061116-00061757 toss your salad Ns5-zuBg8JI-00116-00061758-00062957 hmm Ns5-zuBg8JI-00117-00062958-00065944 foreign Ns5-zuBg8JI-00118-00065945-00067493 dude Ns5-zuBg8JI-00119-00067494-00068387 do you hear that Ns5-zuBg8JI-00120-00068388-00069221 [Music] Ns5-zuBg8JI-00121-00069222-00069821 can you guys hear that Ns5-zuBg8JI-00122-00069822-00070121 it's like vibrated what is that Ns5-zuBg8JI-00123-00070122-00070432 it's the game or my PC I muted my audio Ns5-zuBg8JI-00124-00070433-00070775 and I hear it dude gokhan's holy [__] Ns5-zuBg8JI-00125-00070776-00070900 dude Ns5-zuBg8JI-00126-00070901-00071297 bro Ns5-zuBg8JI-00127-00071298-00071675 oh my God 30 gifted go cons thank you Ns5-zuBg8JI-00128-00071676-00071926 rules thanks for the 23 months it's like Ns5-zuBg8JI-00129-00071927-00072191 a phone vibrating Ns5-zuBg8JI-00130-00072192-00072479 but it's the game because look now you Ns5-zuBg8JI-00131-00072480-00072961 don't hear it right Ns5-zuBg8JI-00132-00072962-00073756 why hear somebody Ns5-zuBg8JI-00133-00073757-00074705 wait Ns5-zuBg8JI-00134-00074706-00075767 yeah your phone Ns5-zuBg8JI-00135-00075768-00076273 is it the alarm but it's bugged Ns5-zuBg8JI-00136-00076274-00078035 that's the alarm but bugged Ns5-zuBg8JI-00137-00078036-00079944 foreign Ns5-zuBg8JI-00138-00079945-00080219 can we leave the alarm like that I like Ns5-zuBg8JI-00139-00080220-00080556 that noise way better Ns5-zuBg8JI-00140-00080557-00080950 no Factory thank you for the 34 months Ns5-zuBg8JI-00141-00080951-00081137 bro left fan thank you for the two Ns5-zuBg8JI-00142-00081138-00081419 months dude I lit I thought I was losing Ns5-zuBg8JI-00143-00081420-00081647 my mind to hearing like something Ns5-zuBg8JI-00144-00081648-00081755 oh Ns5-zuBg8JI-00145-00081756-00081976 hearing something vibrate Ns5-zuBg8JI-00146-00081977-00082181 Factory thank you so much dude go cons Ns5-zuBg8JI-00147-00082182-00082829 your nuts legit thank you bro Ns5-zuBg8JI-00148-00082830-00084299 get the [__] out of here [__] Ns5-zuBg8JI-00149-00084300-00084521 I would be so pissed some dude Ns5-zuBg8JI-00150-00084522-00084773 does a [__] Olympic long jump across Ns5-zuBg8JI-00151-00084774-00084941 the doorway and then blows your knees Ns5-zuBg8JI-00152-00084942-00085450 out Ns5-zuBg8JI-00153-00085451-00086676 foreign Ns5-zuBg8JI-00154-00086677-00087515 how that grenade just landed there what Ns5-zuBg8JI-00155-00087516-00087850 I got Olympic long jump legs but I got Ns5-zuBg8JI-00156-00087851-00089261 little Timmy arms they can't throw Ns5-zuBg8JI-00157-00089262-00089353 um Ns5-zuBg8JI-00158-00089354-00089609 I gotta go the other way if I want to Ns5-zuBg8JI-00159-00089610-00089759 get down there Ns5-zuBg8JI-00160-00089760-00090047 you're getting hummus with fries Ns5-zuBg8JI-00161-00090048-00090682 what Ns5-zuBg8JI-00162-00090683-00090923 hummus with pita bread bro that's a leaf Ns5-zuBg8JI-00163-00090924-00091632 fries Ns5-zuBg8JI-00164-00091633-00092068 of course Jesus Christ you know that Ns5-zuBg8JI-00165-00092069-00092261 brown paper towel roll that they used to Ns5-zuBg8JI-00166-00092262-00092735 have in school Ns5-zuBg8JI-00167-00092736-00093082 come on Ns5-zuBg8JI-00168-00093083-00093509 that's me bro Ns5-zuBg8JI-00169-00093510-00093676 that [__] you could you could remove Ns5-zuBg8JI-00170-00093677-00093917 paint from a car with that thing it's so Ns5-zuBg8JI-00172-00099580-00100061 [Music] Ns5-zuBg8JI-00173-00100062-00100606 what's up Ns5-zuBg8JI-00175-00104754-00106481 foreign Ns5-zuBg8JI-00176-00106482-00107597 why is he shooting my legs with an M4 Ns5-zuBg8JI-00178-00113490-00114071 ugh Ns5-zuBg8JI-00179-00114072-00114889 how is he doing so much damage Ns5-zuBg8JI-00180-00114890-00115084 whoa Ns5-zuBg8JI-00181-00115085-00116004 shut up God damn it yeah Ns5-zuBg8JI-00182-00116005-00116357 that was really fortunate timing Ns5-zuBg8JI-00183-00116358-00116627 that I got my gun up that fast Ns5-zuBg8JI-00184-00116628-00116795 bro this guy could not have been more Ns5-zuBg8JI-00185-00116796-00117269 geared for factory look at this dude Ns5-zuBg8JI-00186-00117270-00117515 pissed by the way let me get my bag this Ns5-zuBg8JI-00187-00117516-00117616 guy's Ns5-zuBg8JI-00188-00117617-00117995 mad Ns5-zuBg8JI-00189-00117996-00118175 where the [__] is my bag now would I Ns5-zuBg8JI-00190-00118176-00118702 drop this thing Ns5-zuBg8JI-00191-00118703-00119219 ammo did he have in this gun Ns5-zuBg8JI-00193-00122682-00123343 foreign Ns5-zuBg8JI-00195-00129558-00129760 damn I didn't kill that guy they were Ns5-zuBg8JI-00196-00129761-00132131 doing as a bralo armor Ns5-zuBg8JI-00197-00132132-00132335 I heard this shooting like that and I Ns5-zuBg8JI-00198-00132336-00132581 figured what was going on oh I did kill Ns5-zuBg8JI-00199-00132582-00132773 him Ns5-zuBg8JI-00200-00132774-00133204 oh he's doing gazelle not the bralo Ns5-zuBg8JI-00201-00133205-00134137 that sucks bro Ns5-zuBg8JI-00202-00134138-00134314 [Applause] Ns5-zuBg8JI-00203-00134315-00134594 and we're out NxknRPrYTQY-00000-00000008-00001311 [Music] NxknRPrYTQY-00001-00001312-00001491 [Music] NxknRPrYTQY-00002-00001492-00001732 hey NxknRPrYTQY-00003-00001734-00004479 [Music] NxknRPrYTQY-00004-00004480-00004687 you N_LYjOVkEqc-00000-00000431-00000736 hey Spyro press the jump button twice to N_LYjOVkEqc-00001-00000737-00001169 Glide and and don't be afraid afraid of N_LYjOVkEqc-00002-00001170-00001423 what falling from high mountain peaks N_LYjOVkEqc-00003-00001424-00001775 plummeting into prehistoric glaciers N_LYjOVkEqc-00004-00001776-00002096 oh that NE3LhSAvUJ8-00001-00003402-00005464 [Music] NE3LhSAvUJ8-00002-00005465-00006217 [Music] NE3LhSAvUJ8-00003-00006218-00006981 [Music] NE3LhSAvUJ8-00004-00006983-00007512 [Applause] NE3LhSAvUJ8-00006-00018129-00019429 [Music] NE3LhSAvUJ8-00007-00019430-00020195 [Applause] NE3LhSAvUJ8-00008-00020196-00020475 [Music] NE3LhSAvUJ8-00009-00020476-00021001 [Applause] NFa59P9H3F8-00000-00000039-00000271 waking up from sleep can be difficult NFa59P9H3F8-00001-00000272-00000567 but time waits for no one a brighter NFa59P9H3F8-00002-00000568-00000999 future demands hard work and dreams NFa59P9H3F8-00003-00001000-00001231 dreams of success NFa59P9H3F8-00004-00001232-00001511 everyone has dreams but only the dreams NFa59P9H3F8-00005-00001512-00001734 pursued with clarity and courage are NFa59P9H3F8-00006-00001735-00001998 ever realized through quality education NFa59P9H3F8-00007-00002000-00002295 tcf is empowering thousands of children NFa59P9H3F8-00008-00002296-00002502 to bring their dreams to life this NFa59P9H3F8-00009-00002503-00002791 ramadan give your zakat to educate the NFa59P9H3F8-00010-00002792-00003184 underprivileged children of pakistan NISowMq52jy-00000-00000500-00000881 this video is a paid advertisement from NISowMq52jy-00001-00000882-00001378 the future Google team and Mars red box NISowMq52jy-00002-00001379-00001839 are not responsible for the content NISowMq52jy-00003-00001841-00003179 enjoy enjoy and NISowMq52jy-00004-00003180-00003538 ladies and gentlemen and organisms of NISowMq52jy-00005-00003539-00004009 all ages m2 technology is pleased to NISowMq52jy-00006-00004010-00004252 present the cronometer NISowMq52jy-00007-00004253-00004597 of your future soon after it was NISowMq52jy-00008-00004598-00004867 discovered that mankind is the only NISowMq52jy-00009-00004868-00005106 living organism in the known universe NISowMq52jy-00010-00005107-00005581 that can't go back in time we decided to NISowMq52jy-00011-00005582-00005953 send this advertisement back in time so NISowMq52jy-00012-00005954-00006204 hopefully you will use it to go forward NISowMq52jy-00013-00006205-00006562 in time and we've called upon mr. brain NISowMq52jy-00014-00006563-00006769 to come out and show us some of the fine NISowMq52jy-00015-00006770-00007030 features of your chronometer of the NISowMq52jy-00016-00007031-00008106 future mr. brain mr. brain break well NISowMq52jy-00017-00008108-00008424 ladies and gentlemen this is the crew NISowMq52jy-00018-00008425-00008724 number of your future and you'll notice NISowMq52jy-00019-00008725-00009217 here that we have put a 20 hour battery NISowMq52jy-00020-00009218-00009607 built right into the strength of your NISowMq52jy-00021-00009608-00009910 chronometer of the future and during NISowMq52jy-00022-00009911-00010357 your for our solar sleep cycles feel a NISowMq52jy-00023-00010358-00010660 full discharge or your chronometer NISowMq52jy-00024-00010661-00010996 that's right here you'll notice we have NISowMq52jy-00025-00010997-00011145 twin NISowMq52jy-00026-00011146-00011461 4d cameras built right in NISowMq52jy-00027-00011462-00011896 they are five a-tearin pixels each which NISowMq52jy-00028-00011897-00012112 may surprise you and quite frankly NISowMq52jy-00029-00012113-00012373 overwhelm you but in the parlance of our NISowMq52jy-00030-00012374-00012733 times it's quite common here you'll NISowMq52jy-00031-00012734-00012975 notice we have a panic and medical alert NISowMq52jy-00032-00012976-00013246 button should you be in a panic or NISowMq52jy-00033-00013247-00013428 medical condition you just push this NISowMq52jy-00034-00013429-00013719 button here that's right and also it NISowMq52jy-00035-00013720-00014166 comes fully equipped with ACE NISowMq52jy-00036-00014166-00014516 a very popular feature ladies and NISowMq52jy-00037-00014518-00014816 gentlemen the self-destruct feature or NISowMq52jy-00038-00014818-00015111 use of the self-destruct feature will NISowMq52jy-00039-00015112-00015675 void your warranty yes yes well fed well NISowMq52jy-00040-00015676-00016050 be a memory kind of guy let's get over NISowMq52jy-00041-00016051-00016407 to the memory portable memory is called NISowMq52jy-00042-00016408-00016868 snap in memory you get a full eight NISowMq52jy-00043-00016869-00017253 thousand terabytes a portable snap in NISowMq52jy-00044-00017254-00017667 memory and we want our memory on a clock NISowMq52jy-00045-00017668-00018119 speed infinity minus a that's right NISowMq52jy-00046-00018120-00018483 infinity minus a since we discovered NISowMq52jy-00047-00018484-00018855 that we can't go faster than the fastest NISowMq52jy-00048-00018856-00019191 possible clock ever built so therefore NISowMq52jy-00049-00019192-00019719 we use infinity minus a factor yes yes NISowMq52jy-00050-00019720-00020325 quite quite right ladies and gentlemen NISowMq52jy-00051-00020326-00020862 we have the Intel I named Minnie that's NISowMq52jy-00052-00020863-00021264 right Intel 9x Minnie and we have it NISowMq52jy-00053-00021265-00021756 coupled with the risin eight nine that's NISowMq52jy-00054-00021757-00021975 right Minnie that's right so we've got NISowMq52jy-00055-00021976-00022514 the Intel 9x and the rising by Andy many NISowMq52jy-00056-00022515-00023219 processors giving you that's right NISowMq52jy-00057-00023220-00023316 ladies and gentlemen NISowMq52jy-00058-00023317-00024000 a total of 880 cars yes yes well said NISowMq52jy-00059-00024001-00024372 and to support those processors you need NISowMq52jy-00060-00024373-00024864 a lot of RAM I love memory and you're NISowMq52jy-00061-00024865-00025169 gonna get the bus of the future that's NISowMq52jy-00062-00025170-00025597 right NISowMq52jy-00063-00025598-00027936 that's right advantage mr. brain why NISowMq52jy-00064-00027937-00028058 don't you go on to some of the other NISowMq52jy-00065-00028060-00028395 features yes yes of course I get excited NISowMq52jy-00067-00032991-00033336 major award is already loaded into your NISowMq52jy-00068-00033337-00033585 cronometer of the future that's right NISowMq52jy-00069-00033586-00033933 and it will be viewable in ultra turbo NISowMq52jy-00070-00033934-00034419 10 star 4d technology which surpasses NISowMq52jy-00071-00034420-00034821 your current HD technology by a factor NISowMq52jy-00072-00034822-00035169 of 1000 that's right and not only do you NISowMq52jy-00073-00035170-00035436 get every movie nominated for a major 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chronometer NISowMq52jy-00088-00040407-00040727 of the future but even more exciting NISowMq52jy-00089-00040728-00041159 than that look at this we have operating NISowMq52jy-00090-00041160-00041453 temperatures that have surpassed any NISowMq52jy-00091-00041454-00041783 known operating temperatures for any NISowMq52jy-00092-00041784-00043385 device anywhere oh that's very exciting NISowMq52jy-00093-00043386-00043652 mr. brain why don't we just tell them NISowMq52jy-00094-00043653-00044218 where they can get their watch NISowMq52jy-00095-00044219-00045423 [Music] NISowMq52jy-00096-00045424-00045837 ladies and gentlemen your chronometer of NISowMq52jy-00097-00045838-00046360 your future is now available at Mars NISowMq52jy-00098-00046361-00046683 Mart that's right NISowMq52jy-00099-00046684-00047035 if you should happen to be flying by NISowMq52jy-00100-00047036-00047232 Mars NISowMq52jy-00101-00047233-00047615 remember our parking lots are available NISowMq52jy-00102-00047616-00048183 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NJSSHsjDhWY-00011-00016959-00017866 [Music] NJSSHsjDhWY-00013-00021084-00022701 so NJSSHsjDhWY-00015-00029393-00030295 [Music] NJSSHsjDhWY-00017-00036902-00037479 [Music] NJSSHsjDhWY-00018-00037480-00037688 you NLuFoYIRtVI-00000-00000066-00000114 [Music] NLuFoYIRtVI-00001-00000115-00000470 yeah welcome back to the walkthrough you NLuFoYIRtVI-00002-00000471-00001006 know what I haven't done for a while and NLuFoYIRtVI-00003-00001007-00001429 yeah the mailbox it probably replaced NLuFoYIRtVI-00004-00001430-00001609 some of the ones I didn't see by now NLuFoYIRtVI-00005-00001610-00002009 probably oh oh wait oh no so that means NLuFoYIRtVI-00006-00002010-00002485 that okay so I just have to check the NLuFoYIRtVI-00007-00002486-00002645 ones that I had before and then I can NLuFoYIRtVI-00008-00002646-00002879 get the other ones later then cuz I NLuFoYIRtVI-00009-00002880-00003066 never had this problem before because I NLuFoYIRtVI-00010-00003067-00003386 check the mail but if it's unconcerned NLuFoYIRtVI-00011-00003386-00003788 on the dueling alright so what do we NLuFoYIRtVI-00012-00003789-00004115 have here okay so yeah I will be able to NLuFoYIRtVI-00013-00004116-00004345 get the others a little bit later on all NLuFoYIRtVI-00014-00004346-00004541 right well it was a little worried about NLuFoYIRtVI-00015-00004542-00004927 that so this is Ronald about dear number NLuFoYIRtVI-00016-00004928-00005331 three stack I was checking my Mac I NLuFoYIRtVI-00017-00005332-00005558 secured some more important information NLuFoYIRtVI-00018-00005559-00005774 about team's yard this time pull all the NLuFoYIRtVI-00019-00005775-00006031 stops to let my first go to i7 shadow NLuFoYIRtVI-00020-00006032-00006202 injera number three lately is deck is an NLuFoYIRtVI-00021-00006203-00006523 alpha grass and fire he sets up as NLuFoYIRtVI-00022-00006523-00006842 executor a banana execute are its big NLuFoYIRtVI-00023-00006843-00007087 explosion can really hurt so be careful NLuFoYIRtVI-00024-00007088-00007598 Ronal the stern face and dr. Mason deck NLuFoYIRtVI-00025-00007598-00007824 diagnosis - it's basically that that NLuFoYIRtVI-00026-00007825-00008141 analysis system went yeah it's in the NLuFoYIRtVI-00027-00008142-00008669 step - dealio label on now on on the NLuFoYIRtVI-00028-00008670-00008987 machine so yeah but I already kind of NLuFoYIRtVI-00029-00008988-00009196 talked you how to do a whole bunch of NLuFoYIRtVI-00030-00009197-00009521 that Canales and building and stuff like NLuFoYIRtVI-00031-00009522-00009898 that so you might not exactly need it NLuFoYIRtVI-00032-00009899-00010337 but it is there and also happy face at NLuFoYIRtVI-00033-00010338-00010880 the end also step 3 alas alas he NLuFoYIRtVI-00034-00010881-00011167 probably has stuff to be ready for us NLuFoYIRtVI-00035-00011168-00011424 already NLuFoYIRtVI-00036-00011425-00011749 go ahead any decks have been uploaded in NLuFoYIRtVI-00037-00011750-00011914 my all of that machine why not come back NLuFoYIRtVI-00038-00011915-00012121 and visit my research center sometime I NLuFoYIRtVI-00039-00012122-00012359 don't I check them out eventually NLuFoYIRtVI-00040-00012360-00012578 the auto tech Machine assembles very NLuFoYIRtVI-00041-00012579-00012749 them very quickly for you let you know NLuFoYIRtVI-00042-00012750-00012961 about future updates as they develop dr. NLuFoYIRtVI-00043-00012962-00013071 Mason NLuFoYIRtVI-00044-00013072-00013452 happy face and a booster pack is the NLuFoYIRtVI-00045-00013453-00013566 kind of things that I was worried about NLuFoYIRtVI-00046-00013566-00014141 missing oh yes elective office Oh NLuFoYIRtVI-00047-00014143-00014427 regular all right on here yeah horn NLuFoYIRtVI-00048-00014428-00014484 attack NLuFoYIRtVI-00049-00014485-00014862 we got a ram it's not that yeah it NLuFoYIRtVI-00050-00014863-00015054 forces the switch and right ons got a NLuFoYIRtVI-00051-00015055-00015336 lot of HP but it costs a lot a lot of NLuFoYIRtVI-00052-00015337-00015612 energy cards to use that bad boy hello NLuFoYIRtVI-00053-00015613-00016113 extra vocalist yes pokemon trainer - NLuFoYIRtVI-00054-00016113-00016776 very nice hmm ok alright so let's just NLuFoYIRtVI-00055-00016777-00017199 see what dog ok guy that's the end of NLuFoYIRtVI-00056-00017200-00017463 let's see what happens if we wipe out NLuFoYIRtVI-00057-00017464-00017901 some of these things here and yes go NLuFoYIRtVI-00058-00017902-00017937 ahead NLuFoYIRtVI-00059-00017938-00018672 there we go ha ha yes please so I'm NLuFoYIRtVI-00060-00018673-00019011 hoping that they'll send more after I do NLuFoYIRtVI-00061-00019012-00019449 this because otherwise I technically NLuFoYIRtVI-00062-00019450-00019782 missed some messages is there gonna go NLuFoYIRtVI-00063-00019783-00020190 out of here when you come no box no no NLuFoYIRtVI-00064-00020191-00020556 mail ok so maybe we have to wait for NLuFoYIRtVI-00065-00020557-00020790 more mail or maybe you have to turn off NLuFoYIRtVI-00066-00020791-00020946 the game or something like that so we're NLuFoYIRtVI-00067-00020947-00021219 we're good for now I think if not I'll NLuFoYIRtVI-00068-00021220-00021569 have to find the transcript or something NLuFoYIRtVI-00069-00021570-00022053 alright do the psychic star ball after NLuFoYIRtVI-00070-00022054-00022319 cleaning out our mail or other cleaning NLuFoYIRtVI-00071-00022320-00022464 out our mailbox you made it here quickly NLuFoYIRtVI-00072-00022465-00022764 mint it's me Ronald good to see you NLuFoYIRtVI-00073-00022765-00022932 again is it NLuFoYIRtVI-00074-00022933-00023094 did you have some trouble in the gr NLuFoYIRtVI-00075-00023095-00023313 fighting fortress labyrinth I got sick NLuFoYIRtVI-00076-00023314-00023391 of waiting phew NLuFoYIRtVI-00077-00023392-00023628 listen I have new team gr Intel there's NLuFoYIRtVI-00078-00023629-00023808 a man called the GR King in the gr NLuFoYIRtVI-00079-00023809-00024021 castle just north of here there's a cat NLuFoYIRtVI-00080-00024022-00024204 stuff you need two coins to meet them NLuFoYIRtVI-00081-00024205-00024414 those would be the gr psychic coin and NLuFoYIRtVI-00082-00024415-00024609 the gr colorless coin you should get NLuFoYIRtVI-00083-00024610-00024810 them quickly and attack that castle I'll NLuFoYIRtVI-00084-00024811-00024939 do my best NLuFoYIRtVI-00085-00024940-00025149 it depends on if there's a lick a tongue NLuFoYIRtVI-00086-00025150-00025362 but seeing how slowly work I bet I'll NLuFoYIRtVI-00087-00025363-00025458 get there first NLuFoYIRtVI-00088-00025459-00025627 I'm off later mints NLuFoYIRtVI-00089-00025629-00025749 [Music] NLuFoYIRtVI-00090-00025750-00026224 he's off and let's take a look around NLuFoYIRtVI-00091-00026225-00026362 here whoa NLuFoYIRtVI-00092-00026363-00026495 so you've already made a here Ament NLuFoYIRtVI-00093-00026495-00026680 that's great now but you'll never defeat NLuFoYIRtVI-00094-00026681-00026945 our King Vilasini maybe you should NLuFoYIRtVI-00095-00026945-00027118 rethink your minute mortars before NLuFoYIRtVI-00096-00027119-00027457 continuing I almost see about that oh NLuFoYIRtVI-00097-00027458-00027689 come on say no pehoe NLuFoYIRtVI-00098-00027689-00027902 I wish the shaky cards look before it NLuFoYIRtVI-00099-00027902-00028151 dark hypno level 26 giving my rare NLuFoYIRtVI-00100-00028152-00028420 Mewtwo level 60 card in exchange what do NLuFoYIRtVI-00101-00028422-00028661 you say mmm lulu miss y-yes I wasn't NLuFoYIRtVI-00102-00028662-00028898 like that as a matter of fact I'm just NLuFoYIRtVI-00103-00028899-00029167 like darling you to level 60 care of you NLuFoYIRtVI-00104-00029168-00029677 what's the movie promo Mewtwo a powerful NLuFoYIRtVI-00105-00029678-00030002 mutant it's yeah you might know the song NLuFoYIRtVI-00106-00030002-00030262 from another one grab to energy cartoon NLuFoYIRtVI-00107-00030263-00030427 this kind of I'll attach them and then NLuFoYIRtVI-00108-00030428-00030832 cyber 440 saw yeah it's pretty versatile NLuFoYIRtVI-00109-00030833-00031145 little kitty there well kind of mid game NLuFoYIRtVI-00110-00031145-00031223 so to speak NLuFoYIRtVI-00111-00031224-00031973 I'm so very happy the card you gave me NLuFoYIRtVI-00112-00031974-00032137 here's a document delivery tae sik's NLuFoYIRtVI-00113-00032138-00032405 I've been using it well that's good to NLuFoYIRtVI-00114-00032406-00032624 hear you haven't seen you would leave my NLuFoYIRtVI-00115-00032625-00032845 sight anyway I've been trying my hardest NLuFoYIRtVI-00116-00032846-00033104 thing a good deck 14 gr but I just can't NLuFoYIRtVI-00117-00033105-00033326 after all team Jared decks are known to NLuFoYIRtVI-00118-00033327-00033562 be any known as the best of the best NLuFoYIRtVI-00119-00033563-00033860 I don't know about that was I make huh NLuFoYIRtVI-00120-00033861-00034070 I'm going to do a high D a psychic NLuFoYIRtVI-00121-00034071-00034460 member of team gr all right so I guess NLuFoYIRtVI-00122-00034461-00034858 we're good here and receptionist's thank NLuFoYIRtVI-00123-00034859-00035018 you for visiting this is team gear NLuFoYIRtVI-00124-00035019-00035207 psychic stronghold as fortress is the NLuFoYIRtVI-00125-00035208-00035515 last structure protecting gr castle not NLuFoYIRtVI-00126-00035516-00035689 really we just heard from Ronald that NLuFoYIRtVI-00127-00035690-00036062 there's the colorless I mean grx but NLuFoYIRtVI-00128-00036063-00036214 there's the color that nevermind they'll NLuFoYIRtVI-00129-00036215-00036407 hear the psychic strongholds a woman NLuFoYIRtVI-00130-00036408-00036617 named Claire alongside of her are four NLuFoYIRtVI-00131-00036618-00036893 other teams your members to fight whoa NLuFoYIRtVI-00132-00036894-00037043 out of these four you only need to NLuFoYIRtVI-00133-00037044-00037315 defeat three members to move on well you NLuFoYIRtVI-00134-00037316-00037601 know I'm gonna battle them all so let's NLuFoYIRtVI-00135-00037602-00038006 throw that off the table NLuFoYIRtVI-00136-00038007-00038231 shall battle rules inside that is all NLuFoYIRtVI-00137-00038232-00038438 please enjoy dealing in team gr psychic NLuFoYIRtVI-00138-00038439-00039002 stronghold thank you thank you so got NLuFoYIRtVI-00139-00039003-00039578 some spikes you got some test tubes how NLuFoYIRtVI-00140-00039579-00039749 are you seeing anything around here so NLuFoYIRtVI-00141-00039750-00040649 no no maybe no one's home name is Claire NLuFoYIRtVI-00142-00040650-00040927 I need a team chair psychic stronghold NLuFoYIRtVI-00143-00040928-00041192 does it to do so you're the troublemaker NLuFoYIRtVI-00144-00041193-00041518 trying to recover the cards you stolen NLuFoYIRtVI-00145-00041519-00041963 you called me a troublemaker and then NLuFoYIRtVI-00146-00041964-00042479 say you stole cards let that sink in for NLuFoYIRtVI-00147-00042480-00042734 a bit even deed come far I won't praise NLuFoYIRtVI-00148-00042735-00042956 their efforts though I assume you set NLuFoYIRtVI-00149-00042957-00043208 your sights on a gr castle well you've NLuFoYIRtVI-00150-00043209-00043421 got to get through me first kid I won't NLuFoYIRtVI-00151-00043422-00043511 go easy on you NLuFoYIRtVI-00152-00043512-00043712 however if you do happen to beat me I'll NLuFoYIRtVI-00153-00043713-00043883 have been quite the feat allow me to NLuFoYIRtVI-00154-00043884-00044063 introduce my fellow stronghold members NLuFoYIRtVI-00155-00044064-00044678 first is Clyde to my left's thanks much NLuFoYIRtVI-00156-00044679-00044977 I'm Clyde next is the young and talented NLuFoYIRtVI-00157-00044978-00045329 Victoria mint NLuFoYIRtVI-00158-00045330-00045839 I've been waiting huh huh it's easy NLuFoYIRtVI-00159-00045840-00046040 Victoria is wait for me to complete my NLuFoYIRtVI-00160-00046041-00046376 instructions wasn't that loud you don't NLuFoYIRtVI-00161-00046377-00046613 have to be so strict there you go again NLuFoYIRtVI-00162-00046614-00046885 listen to a word I say NLuFoYIRtVI-00163-00046886-00047171 violence okay okay oh stop it please NLuFoYIRtVI-00164-00047172-00047645 I'll decoy rope I bet you Turner NLuFoYIRtVI-00165-00047646-00047927 suspected the famed ER number three NLuFoYIRtVI-00166-00047928-00048074 could be so pretty NLuFoYIRtVI-00167-00048075-00048287 wait a second she said gr number three NLuFoYIRtVI-00168-00048288-00048456 which she's clearly gr number four NLuFoYIRtVI-00169-00048457-00048703 [Music] NLuFoYIRtVI-00170-00048704-00048826 they must have been a tight ball NLuFoYIRtVI-00171-00048827-00049048 somewhere that's right little Victoria NLuFoYIRtVI-00172-00049049-00049279 was gr number three the whole time NLuFoYIRtVI-00173-00049280-00050197 okay maybe not help next is Kevin yeah NLuFoYIRtVI-00174-00050198-00050544 hi I'm Kevin we're well met Mintz NLuFoYIRtVI-00175-00050545-00050761 finally allow me to introduce my NLuFoYIRtVI-00176-00050762-00050866 daughter Heidi NLuFoYIRtVI-00177-00050867-00051054 [Music] NLuFoYIRtVI-00178-00051055-00051274 you only need to defeat three of these NLuFoYIRtVI-00179-00051275-00051465 stronghold members to move on if you can NLuFoYIRtVI-00180-00051466-00051670 manage that I'll turn my elevator on for NLuFoYIRtVI-00181-00051671-00051826 you I'll be waiting for you in the upper NLuFoYIRtVI-00182-00051827-00052261 room and so she goes and I'm gonna go NLuFoYIRtVI-00183-00052262-00052426 from left to right for the sake of NLuFoYIRtVI-00184-00052427-00052738 organization I'm Kevin team dear and NLuFoYIRtVI-00185-00052739-00052939 psychic fortress members battles with me NLuFoYIRtVI-00186-00052940-00053134 are a bit extreme I use a custom rule NLuFoYIRtVI-00187-00053135-00053398 for resistance and said the usual -30 NLuFoYIRtVI-00188-00053399-00053730 all resistance is a minus 10 reduction NLuFoYIRtVI-00189-00053732-00054079 and done we feel confident we're -10 NLuFoYIRtVI-00190-00054079-00054370 resistance lets us start the duel no NLuFoYIRtVI-00191-00054371-00054547 feel free to challenge the other members NLuFoYIRtVI-00192-00054548-00054796 if you like it's a bouquet you'll all NLuFoYIRtVI-00193-00054797-00055075 mint you got for a card battle like the NLuFoYIRtVI-00194-00055076-00055204 change the game mechanics a bit for NLuFoYIRtVI-00195-00055204-00055378 resistance in my duels it's going to the NLuFoYIRtVI-00196-00055379-00055588 30 another 10 remember shall I begin NLuFoYIRtVI-00197-00055589-00055885 then sure we should be just fine with NLuFoYIRtVI-00198-00055886-00056344 fireweed super effective lower NLuFoYIRtVI-00199-00056345-00056764 resistance is a factor but that is okay NLuFoYIRtVI-00200-00056765-00057105 so yeah I'm using my fire weed so this NLuFoYIRtVI-00201-00057107-00057271 everything should be okay it's all gonna NLuFoYIRtVI-00202-00057272-00057682 come out pretty even overall oh except NLuFoYIRtVI-00203-00057683-00058041 if I don't have energy and Basic Pokemon NLuFoYIRtVI-00204-00058042-00058438 that match the energy that I have I mean NLuFoYIRtVI-00205-00058439-00058729 yeah mark bass boat okay we got NLuFoYIRtVI-00206-00058729-00059064 something here got something here um NLuFoYIRtVI-00207-00059065-00059329 yeah this this Avril by the way I keep NLuFoYIRtVI-00208-00059329-00059479 forgetting to mention might be a slight NLuFoYIRtVI-00209-00059479-00059779 upgrade over the original Abra because NLuFoYIRtVI-00210-00059779-00060028 if it's it's got the same sized shock NLuFoYIRtVI-00211-00060029-00060328 but it's also got vanish but in exchange NLuFoYIRtVI-00212-00060329-00060717 for the extra HP of 10 as well it's got NLuFoYIRtVI-00213-00060719-00060973 our cheap cost of 1 instead of 0 keep NLuFoYIRtVI-00214-00060974-00061167 forgetting to mention that and issues NLuFoYIRtVI-00215-00061169-00061441 yeah that could be a problem of a Mewtwo NLuFoYIRtVI-00216-00061441-00061775 anyway I guess I'll just attack NLuFoYIRtVI-00217-00061776-00062039 the tackle can't really do much anything NLuFoYIRtVI-00218-00062040-00062204 else it's like it's siphoned out this NLuFoYIRtVI-00219-00062204-00062546 I'm just kind of let that go and see how NLuFoYIRtVI-00220-00062547-00062960 things flow mm Bareilles of course NLuFoYIRtVI-00221-00062961-00063119 of course you're gonna get you're gonna NLuFoYIRtVI-00222-00063120-00063329 the head flips all day and all night NLuFoYIRtVI-00223-00063329-00063722 aren't you aren't you know another fire NLuFoYIRtVI-00224-00063723-00063954 [Music] NLuFoYIRtVI-00225-00063955-00064202 and you know I didn't take out my grass NLuFoYIRtVI-00226-00064203-00064436 energy by the way I give that the site NLuFoYIRtVI-00227-00064437-00064658 there and call it a turn because yeah I NLuFoYIRtVI-00228-00064659-00064816 have not tweaked my back since yeah I NLuFoYIRtVI-00229-00064817-00065066 see that and I was still grassing it up NLuFoYIRtVI-00230-00065066-00065576 so yeah okay oh I can freely tackle or NLuFoYIRtVI-00231-00065577-00065789 retreat over to site there and finish NLuFoYIRtVI-00232-00065790-00066011 off the Abra but I probably will do I'll NLuFoYIRtVI-00233-00066012-00066365 sure now because I want to go to site NLuFoYIRtVI-00234-00066366-00066602 there and also gonna use one of my NLuFoYIRtVI-00235-00066603-00066836 overabundance of fire so I could just do NLuFoYIRtVI-00236-00066837-00067397 a slash and save my good ol Bulbasaur if NLuFoYIRtVI-00237-00067398-00067631 a later that possibly could come in NLuFoYIRtVI-00238-00067632-00067673 handy NLuFoYIRtVI-00239-00067674-00067901 mostly I don't get a Charmander at this NLuFoYIRtVI-00240-00067902-00068138 rate because yeah I got Charmeleon in my NLuFoYIRtVI-00241-00068139-00068369 hand already you saw plus a double NLuFoYIRtVI-00242-00068370-00068588 colorless we'll see how things go and NLuFoYIRtVI-00243-00068589-00068846 hammer is probably gonna cause paralysis NLuFoYIRtVI-00244-00068847-00069272 to me based on my luck okay no I guess NLuFoYIRtVI-00245-00069273-00069431 it was only that guy who is using the NLuFoYIRtVI-00246-00069432-00070100 gameshark alrights fire well grass I'm NLuFoYIRtVI-00247-00070101-00070643 gonna put that in there I could Pokemon NLuFoYIRtVI-00248-00070644-00070853 traitor into a Charmander and then start NLuFoYIRtVI-00249-00070854-00071048 attacking with Charmeleon but then I'd NLuFoYIRtVI-00250-00071049-00071306 have to get off my Charizard and we'll NLuFoYIRtVI-00251-00071307-00071405 just see how things go NLuFoYIRtVI-00252-00071406-00071654 I'm a decent position anyway you know so NLuFoYIRtVI-00253-00071655-00071864 there to see how things well he's NLuFoYIRtVI-00254-00071865-00072158 talking a retreat abra probably really NLuFoYIRtVI-00255-00072159-00072431 okay but I'm gonna bet you were gonna NLuFoYIRtVI-00256-00072432-00072686 retreat unless you knew the coin flip NLuFoYIRtVI-00257-00072687-00072854 was gonna go ahead because you turned on NLuFoYIRtVI-00258-00072855-00073316 your gameshark who knows who knows all I NLuFoYIRtVI-00259-00073317-00073426 know is NLuFoYIRtVI-00260-00073427-00073733 maybe I should Pokemon trigger I'll go NLuFoYIRtVI-00261-00073734-00074078 Charizard swap farm a minimum which NLuFoYIRtVI-00262-00074079-00074243 Charmander though this one or the other NLuFoYIRtVI-00263-00074244-00074429 charm man I'm thinking the other charm NLuFoYIRtVI-00264-00074430-00074756 man there because he yeah it's got more NLuFoYIRtVI-00265-00074757-00075034 HP and I might actually need that and NLuFoYIRtVI-00266-00075035-00075215 we'll call it a turn NLuFoYIRtVI-00267-00075216-00075425 I'm just probably gonna end up evolving NLuFoYIRtVI-00268-00075426-00075671 it straight over to Charmeleon ASAP NLuFoYIRtVI-00269-00075672-00076027 anyway but ooh that could be a problem NLuFoYIRtVI-00270-00076028-00076790 we'll see that yeah alright so that is a NLuFoYIRtVI-00271-00076791-00077102 goner so I'll get another prize card and NLuFoYIRtVI-00272-00077103-00077423 oh sure now I can after I played pokemon NLuFoYIRtVI-00273-00077424-00077675 trainer sure now you give me I'm playing NLuFoYIRtVI-00274-00077676-00077819 the first song oh oh you like those NLuFoYIRtVI-00275-00077820-00078283 apples just because despite that draw NLuFoYIRtVI-00276-00078284-00078575 probably got else are merely in my deck NLuFoYIRtVI-00277-00078576-00079057 - that's like I got both of all times NLuFoYIRtVI-00278-00079058-00079355 alright saw the bench manipulation could NLuFoYIRtVI-00279-00079356-00079577 cause decent amount of damage but I'll NLuFoYIRtVI-00280-00079578-00079739 probably be I was gonna say I'll NLuFoYIRtVI-00281-00079740-00079997 probably be 20 but ya did NLuFoYIRtVI-00282-00079998-00080540 no no oh I got all those tails yeah I NLuFoYIRtVI-00283-00080541-00080714 forgotten well okay you're getting the NLuFoYIRtVI-00284-00080715-00080963 coin flips Gibbs I'll prepare a NLuFoYIRtVI-00285-00080964-00081380 Bulbasaur like like so does like set up NLuFoYIRtVI-00286-00081381-00081590 in the future because I could do 5 by 50 NLuFoYIRtVI-00287-00081591-00081815 damage with Charmeleon so in the NLuFoYIRtVI-00288-00081816-00081959 meantime I'm just gonna do a little NLuFoYIRtVI-00289-00081960-00082192 scratch with ya NLuFoYIRtVI-00290-00082193-00082403 so yeah in the meantime I'm just gonna NLuFoYIRtVI-00291-00082404-00082634 do that and tackle it Bulbasaur I'll let NLuFoYIRtVI-00292-00082635-00082913 them knock out hypno if you want cereal NLuFoYIRtVI-00293-00082914-00083171 they'll be okay just finish them off NLuFoYIRtVI-00294-00083172-00083432 really quickly with that NLuFoYIRtVI-00295-00083433-00083687 Charmeleon when the time is a right are NLuFoYIRtVI-00296-00083688-00084221 nope go ah and now he's until this is NLuFoYIRtVI-00297-00084222-00084581 like yeah you don't really have all that NLuFoYIRtVI-00298-00084582-00084797 much to go by here that Mewtwo with the NLuFoYIRtVI-00299-00084798-00085057 side crash would be handy if I was using NLuFoYIRtVI-00300-00085058-00085652 psychic pokémon but I'm not so I'm gonna NLuFoYIRtVI-00301-00085653-00085967 go set that up for the future NLuFoYIRtVI-00302-00085968-00086419 and discard one fire and there goes a NLuFoYIRtVI-00303-00086420-00086806 dark hip no very nice here comes the me NLuFoYIRtVI-00304-00086807-00087049 too I pretty much expected that but it's NLuFoYIRtVI-00305-00087050-00087422 not really gonna be it's not gonna make NLuFoYIRtVI-00306-00087423-00087757 it it you can't attach that many energy NLuFoYIRtVI-00307-00087758-00088223 per turn and yeah so I'm gonna I should NLuFoYIRtVI-00308-00088224-00088426 actually do this I'm gonna go scarred NLuFoYIRtVI-00309-00088427-00088750 that and grab some of those fires just a NLuFoYIRtVI-00310-00088751-00089035 case things go south and flamethrower NLuFoYIRtVI-00311-00089036-00089287 there we go it's probably gonna retreat NLuFoYIRtVI-00312-00089288-00089635 Mewtwo but it shouldn't be that big of NLuFoYIRtVI-00313-00089636-00089810 an issue at least like I thought he was NLuFoYIRtVI-00314-00089811-00090053 gonna retreat the other critter well NLuFoYIRtVI-00315-00090054-00090292 that didn't work out so okay he's doing NLuFoYIRtVI-00316-00090293-00090532 that and no he's not because it cost two NLuFoYIRtVI-00317-00090533-00090728 energy cards to retreat Mewtwo soul he's NLuFoYIRtVI-00318-00090729-00091115 a goner you're just like I might as well NLuFoYIRtVI-00319-00091116-00091385 just evolve that for the fun of it and NLuFoYIRtVI-00320-00091386-00091573 yeah just use flamethrower for the NLuFoYIRtVI-00321-00091574-00091924 fanciness and the guy could use slash as NLuFoYIRtVI-00322-00091925-00092494 well but yeah voila I think I was in NLuFoYIRtVI-00323-00092495-00092887 pretty decent control that game I guess NLuFoYIRtVI-00324-00092888-00093041 I lost your stuff minute except in the NLuFoYIRtVI-00325-00093042-00093403 early game but happens sometimes NLuFoYIRtVI-00326-00093404-00093790 no man yeah NLuFoYIRtVI-00327-00093791-00094063 Manama now there's a lick my nemesis NLuFoYIRtVI-00328-00094064-00094599 liquor tongue well legends booster pack NLuFoYIRtVI-00329-00094600-00095377 we get duplicated on the leave regular NLuFoYIRtVI-00330-00095378-00095611 Rhyhorn I've had the penny Pokemon can't NLuFoYIRtVI-00331-00095612-00095815 attack this Pokemon day then your bonus NLuFoYIRtVI-00332-00095816-00096028 extern and a heart attack for 30 so NLuFoYIRtVI-00333-00096029-00096250 again like the ride on its cost a lot of NLuFoYIRtVI-00334-00096251-00096625 energy female leader and ten now hums NLuFoYIRtVI-00335-00096626-00096835 love our heads and call for family you NLuFoYIRtVI-00336-00096836-00097011 know building you know fighting energy NLuFoYIRtVI-00337-00097012-00097246 it's there for my psychic powers to be NLuFoYIRtVI-00338-00097247-00097471 so inaccurate oh I guess I should act to NLuFoYIRtVI-00339-00097472-00097834 me my elevators a few then when it over NLuFoYIRtVI-00340-00097835-00097993 you're late Charlotte you can use it to NLuFoYIRtVI-00341-00097994-00098137 meet Claire you can't reach her any NLuFoYIRtVI-00342-00098138-00098299 other way I'm afraid so you just walk NLuFoYIRtVI-00343-00098300-00098446 off switch and it automatically NLuFoYIRtVI-00344-00098447-00098725 activates it kind of makes sense all NLuFoYIRtVI-00345-00098726-00098998 right let's do lists you choosing me as NLuFoYIRtVI-00346-00098999-00099421 one of your battle opponents in the turn NLuFoYIRtVI-00347-00099422-00099637 fighter there's no way you'll be able to NLuFoYIRtVI-00348-00099638-00099811 top my back this time nope NLuFoYIRtVI-00349-00099812-00099976 my challenger requirement is a NLuFoYIRtVI-00350-00099977-00100141 restriction on energy type you know NLuFoYIRtVI-00351-00100142-00100279 energy cards you're allowed to use our NLuFoYIRtVI-00352-00100280-00100519 psychic energy cards every deck is made NLuFoYIRtVI-00353-00100520-00100735 of a sucky type in mind come on come on NLuFoYIRtVI-00354-00100736-00101482 let's fight yes you think you're doing NLuFoYIRtVI-00355-00101483-00101737 got energy cards on a sec eating type in NLuFoYIRtVI-00356-00101738-00101866 your deck you want to test you might NLuFoYIRtVI-00357-00101867-00102061 against me correct get rid of that other NLuFoYIRtVI-00358-00102062-00102244 energy in your place of its psychic type NLuFoYIRtVI-00359-00102245-00102706 energy well you're in luck because I NLuFoYIRtVI-00360-00102707-00102991 have set up my paralyzed ahead of time NLuFoYIRtVI-00361-00102992-00103782 like something forgot the energy I guess NLuFoYIRtVI-00362-00103783-00104095 did I forget to do that's a whopper NLuFoYIRtVI-00363-00104096-00104446 Swampert I don't know I don't know but NLuFoYIRtVI-00364-00104447-00104689 look at that we got 220 there we are NLuFoYIRtVI-00365-00104690-00105028 good all right so let's give another NLuFoYIRtVI-00366-00105029-00105202 look-see I'm gonna try this version NLuFoYIRtVI-00367-00105203-00105439 after I was I'm saying might be a slight NLuFoYIRtVI-00368-00105440-00105505 upgrade NLuFoYIRtVI-00369-00105506-00105861 Kadabra this jinx Oh actually why that's NLuFoYIRtVI-00370-00105863-00106063 right it uses the water NLuFoYIRtVI-00371-00106064-00106543 forgot about let's see another jinx to NLuFoYIRtVI-00372-00106544-00106785 like maybe that one got that chinks I NLuFoYIRtVI-00373-00106786-00106935 got this new too because of psychic NLuFoYIRtVI-00374-00106936-00107167 energy yeah NLuFoYIRtVI-00375-00107168-00107368 complete recovery back you maybe I'll NLuFoYIRtVI-00376-00107369-00107566 use the other Mewtwo promo that I got I NLuFoYIRtVI-00377-00107567-00107791 thought I'd use this Mewtwo as well just NLuFoYIRtVI-00378-00107792-00108108 for the sake of variety now why do I NLuFoYIRtVI-00379-00108109-00108363 even chew stuff that stinks of disease NLuFoYIRtVI-00380-00108364-00108970 um Rattata resistance to psychic ahaha NLuFoYIRtVI-00381-00108971-00109284 sing with Raticate scene with the NLuFoYIRtVI-00382-00109285-00109438 Jigglypuff and Wigglytuff NLuFoYIRtVI-00383-00109439-00109669 tor else as well so I'm still pretty NLuFoYIRtVI-00384-00109670-00110064 well prepared aside from a certain NLuFoYIRtVI-00385-00110065-00110719 certain issue down below here and I use NLuFoYIRtVI-00386-00110720-00111097 the energy of session all right so we're NLuFoYIRtVI-00387-00111098-00111181 good to go NLuFoYIRtVI-00388-00111182-00111397 hope your deck is made with only suck NLuFoYIRtVI-00389-00111398-00111622 you type energy cards if it is accepted NLuFoYIRtVI-00390-00111623-00111757 challenge and show you how strong I've NLuFoYIRtVI-00391-00111758-00112132 become no oh you're gonna fight the NLuFoYIRtVI-00392-00112133-00112303 other members that said oh my get out of NLuFoYIRtVI-00393-00112304-00112485 my face them and the meh meh meh meh NLuFoYIRtVI-00394-00112486-00112681 aha your decks energy cars and all NLuFoYIRtVI-00395-00112682-00112843 psychic type that you're all water type NLuFoYIRtVI-00396-00112844-00113089 at some point but let's start that's so NLuFoYIRtVI-00397-00113090-00113473 right with for Fry's cars and she's got NLuFoYIRtVI-00398-00113474-00113644 like a fanfare going on in the NLuFoYIRtVI-00399-00113645-00113724 background NLuFoYIRtVI-00400-00113725-00113977 you could have a little fun reading that NLuFoYIRtVI-00401-00113978-00114574 off on the side yeah as you know she's NLuFoYIRtVI-00402-00114575-00114832 kind of on the popular side especially NLuFoYIRtVI-00403-00114833-00115200 in the Lightning place why did I do that NLuFoYIRtVI-00404-00115201-00115546 they're just laughing at the hell all NLuFoYIRtVI-00405-00115547-00115825 right let's go a playbill from next turn NLuFoYIRtVI-00406-00115826-00116092 I got my resistance going on here so I NLuFoYIRtVI-00407-00116093-00116527 should be alright yeah oh man its energy NLuFoYIRtVI-00408-00116528-00117118 spike version but yeah I kind of swaps NLuFoYIRtVI-00409-00117119-00117382 the energies around so if something goes NLuFoYIRtVI-00410-00117383-00117885 awry with my toros but yeah he's just NLuFoYIRtVI-00411-00117886-00118110 gonna end up powering up my yeah and NLuFoYIRtVI-00412-00118111-00118528 then that kind of nulls my tauros anyway NLuFoYIRtVI-00413-00118529-00118648 but anyway NLuFoYIRtVI-00414-00118649-00119170 gonna do the bill and I'm gonna go pop NLuFoYIRtVI-00415-00119171-00119545 that on there I guess I will power up NLuFoYIRtVI-00416-00119546-00119722 totall select I'm gonna set them up for NLuFoYIRtVI-00417-00119723-00119916 the future and let her do the energy NLuFoYIRtVI-00418-00119917-00120216 transfer and then outline energy removal NLuFoYIRtVI-00419-00120217-00120550 and pulling out dark Kedavra that's NLuFoYIRtVI-00420-00120551-00120829 alright if you'd like to they gonna give NLuFoYIRtVI-00421-00120830-00121315 the energy wait what that you have no NLuFoYIRtVI-00422-00121316-00121884 energy cards oh no that's not good for NLuFoYIRtVI-00423-00121885-00122290 you go oh man especially since I got the NLuFoYIRtVI-00424-00122291-00122818 energy removal tech well she probably NLuFoYIRtVI-00425-00122819-00122989 won't be able to do that much unless she NLuFoYIRtVI-00426-00122990-00123328 gets some good draw cards ok energy NLuFoYIRtVI-00427-00123329-00123489 removal that will help her a little bit NLuFoYIRtVI-00428-00123490-00123791 no that's yeah that's not an energy card NLuFoYIRtVI-00429-00123792-00124114 so we're gonna go flop that on there and NLuFoYIRtVI-00430-00124115-00124303 I even got professor open my home but I NLuFoYIRtVI-00431-00124304-00124474 don't want to dump my energy removals NLuFoYIRtVI-00432-00124475-00124669 when I'm in this sort of position you NLuFoYIRtVI-00433-00124670-00125020 know so I'm just gonna keep on stomping NLuFoYIRtVI-00434-00125021-00125572 on and allow myself to wipe out this oh NLuFoYIRtVI-00435-00125573-00125947 yeah did you see on the picture and NLuFoYIRtVI-00436-00125948-00126246 allow myself to wipe out them you to NLuFoYIRtVI-00437-00126247-00127119 probably yeah other than huh well sorry NLuFoYIRtVI-00438-00127120-00127426 that's the site that's my prowess is NLuFoYIRtVI-00439-00127427-00127710 tech in a nutshell all right let's do NLuFoYIRtVI-00440-00127711-00128141 the stomper and wipe out the view to ah NLuFoYIRtVI-00441-00128142-00128466 here we go ah so much for that NLuFoYIRtVI-00442-00128467-00128815 resistance up I mean I know weak this NLuFoYIRtVI-00443-00128816-00129054 air resistance applied there NLuFoYIRtVI-00444-00129055-00129284 okay so I guess I'll start going for NLuFoYIRtVI-00445-00129285-00129576 that I mean I don't really have to but NLuFoYIRtVI-00446-00129577-00129849 as long as I just want to make sure tor NLuFoYIRtVI-00447-00129850-00130002 else is powered up and whatnot like the NLuFoYIRtVI-00448-00130003-00130350 rampage you know it's a yeah you'd have NLuFoYIRtVI-00449-00130351-00130554 with more damage counter so I'm gonna NLuFoYIRtVI-00450-00130555-00130821 focus on that just to stop for now I NLuFoYIRtVI-00451-00130822-00131016 just want to make sure Taurus is good to NLuFoYIRtVI-00452-00131017-00131069 go NLuFoYIRtVI-00453-00131070-00131400 nothing nothing NLuFoYIRtVI-00454-00131401-00131817 I find this hard the police plopped out NLuFoYIRtVI-00455-00131818-00132369 on the bench yeah oh my Cadabra - NLuFoYIRtVI-00456-00132370-00132624 thought I really don't want to I really NLuFoYIRtVI-00457-00132625-00132813 don't want to Professor drunk now all NLuFoYIRtVI-00458-00132814-00132950 right stop NLuFoYIRtVI-00459-00132951-00133206 let's go I thought was gonna knock out NLuFoYIRtVI-00460-00133207-00133257 Rattata NLuFoYIRtVI-00461-00133258-00133608 cuz I figured my tail flips would end it NLuFoYIRtVI-00462-00133609-00134106 did knots oh okay we got something here NLuFoYIRtVI-00463-00134107-00134487 Oh a bra Oh No then I'll be able to NLuFoYIRtVI-00464-00134488-00134778 Professor Oak so on the next turn inside NLuFoYIRtVI-00465-00134779-00135648 saw oh jeez I could say my deck is NLuFoYIRtVI-00466-00135649-00135879 working perfectly technically because NLuFoYIRtVI-00467-00135880-00136212 I'm protecting her from using anything NLuFoYIRtVI-00468-00136213-00136740 oh okay so just stall a little bit more NLuFoYIRtVI-00469-00136741-00137130 there um let's go ahead and power up NLuFoYIRtVI-00470-00137131-00137463 something else here know what that I NLuFoYIRtVI-00471-00137464-00137649 think I got enough okay the kind I think NLuFoYIRtVI-00472-00137650-00137790 I got enough from you to see the NLuFoYIRtVI-00473-00137791-00138096 professor wrong can fill up my hand once NLuFoYIRtVI-00474-00138097-00138585 again and let's see if she actually NLuFoYIRtVI-00475-00138586-00138963 accepts it really I figured happy to NLuFoYIRtVI-00476-00138964-00139154 thin your deck a little bit there NLuFoYIRtVI-00477-00139155-00139536 alright oh that's right Oh anyway let's NLuFoYIRtVI-00478-00139537-00139914 see here yeah I think I think I'm just NLuFoYIRtVI-00479-00139915-00140231 gonna stop heads please thank you NLuFoYIRtVI-00480-00140232-00140681 this is about time and I think I ran out NLuFoYIRtVI-00481-00140682-00140903 of energy removal anyway and up NLuFoYIRtVI-00482-00140904-00141143 finishing the turn not gonna not gonna NLuFoYIRtVI-00483-00141144-00141368 retreat much who'd have retreated but NLuFoYIRtVI-00484-00141369-00141700 maybe Toros is just too too threatening NLuFoYIRtVI-00485-00141701-00142433 mmm so what that's and so that's the key NLuFoYIRtVI-00486-00142434-00142721 oh and I guess you would have had the NLuFoYIRtVI-00487-00142722-00142973 retreat anyway technically Kangaskhan NLuFoYIRtVI-00488-00142974-00143117 yeah so I thought you were treated to NLuFoYIRtVI-00489-00143118-00143273 retreat you to do you see your face NLuFoYIRtVI-00490-00143274-00144431 there I get up oh yeah and what can I do NLuFoYIRtVI-00491-00144432-00144710 I can't like attack the King has gone NLuFoYIRtVI-00492-00144711-00144881 very quickly with anything I've got NLuFoYIRtVI-00493-00144882-00145028 right now so that might actually be NLuFoYIRtVI-00494-00145029-00145253 quite helpful for her especially with NLuFoYIRtVI-00495-00145254-00145409 fetch as long as he doesn't NLuFoYIRtVI-00496-00145410-00145655 she's got an energy card but for now I'm NLuFoYIRtVI-00497-00145656-00145877 gonna go with that and continue stopping NLuFoYIRtVI-00498-00145878-00146258 away cuz yeah if I put all Kadabra to NLuFoYIRtVI-00499-00146259-00146600 try and do 50 he'll only do 30 there NLuFoYIRtVI-00500-00146601-00146852 Kadabra if you don't have energy though NLuFoYIRtVI-00501-00146853-00147056 that's not okay there you go see the NLuFoYIRtVI-00502-00147057-00147305 fetch here is gonna be that's gonna be NLuFoYIRtVI-00503-00147306-00147586 probably the deal breaker of things NLuFoYIRtVI-00504-00147587-00147821 we're a plus power that could be a nice NLuFoYIRtVI-00505-00147822-00147907 surprise NLuFoYIRtVI-00506-00147908-00148303 wait wait which which me to is which I NLuFoYIRtVI-00507-00148304-00148613 probably want to go with the first mew NLuFoYIRtVI-00508-00148614-00149093 to them and stop let's go and yeah I NLuFoYIRtVI-00509-00149094-00149294 don't want to confuse myself with tor NLuFoYIRtVI-00510-00149295-00149435 else either so I just thought I'd NLuFoYIRtVI-00511-00149436-00149858 consistently do 20 or 30 damage uh-huh NLuFoYIRtVI-00512-00149859-00150200 so next turn I can actually stay the NLuFoYIRtVI-00513-00150201-00150401 turn after next turn I will win because NLuFoYIRtVI-00514-00150402-00150590 I have plus power unless she swaps out NLuFoYIRtVI-00515-00150591-00150881 the kangaskhan but yeah it's like she's NLuFoYIRtVI-00516-00150882-00151169 not really doing much of anything I NLuFoYIRtVI-00517-00151170-00151265 wonder if I should give her another NLuFoYIRtVI-00518-00151266-00151685 chance i ah I was kind of kind of a long NLuFoYIRtVI-00519-00151686-00152039 duel as it is just based on her by HP NLuFoYIRtVI-00520-00152040-00152351 critters it will see though but yeah NLuFoYIRtVI-00521-00152352-00152593 actually I don't need the plus power no NLuFoYIRtVI-00522-00152594-00152972 that's uh NLuFoYIRtVI-00523-00152973-00153444 hmm might as well not doing anything NLuFoYIRtVI-00524-00153445-00153648 else I can conceive Rinku faults you NLuFoYIRtVI-00525-00153649-00153930 seen I drew there geez NLuFoYIRtVI-00526-00153931-00154272 well well NLuFoYIRtVI-00527-00154273-00154512 yeah I really she couldn't really do NLuFoYIRtVI-00528-00154513-00154985 anything NLuFoYIRtVI-00529-00154986-00155286 was I that tougher did you just get bad NLuFoYIRtVI-00530-00155287-00156155 dross and pop it up it up pop pop okay NLuFoYIRtVI-00531-00156156-00156393 okay here you go yep we're gonna get NLuFoYIRtVI-00532-00156394-00157115 some new cards here or maybe knots maybe NLuFoYIRtVI-00533-00157116-00157485 maybe not okay it's no one that I lost NLuFoYIRtVI-00534-00157486-00157728 so badly in your prior confrontations NLuFoYIRtVI-00535-00157729-00157902 yeah I'd like to make my search you NLuFoYIRtVI-00536-00157903-00158024 could thank me later NLuFoYIRtVI-00537-00158025-00158280 push me aside you know they'd like to NLuFoYIRtVI-00538-00158281-00158484 let the elevator has activated I bet you NLuFoYIRtVI-00539-00158485-00158607 know you already knew that from before NLuFoYIRtVI-00540-00158608-00158874 right yeah I already beat me if they're NLuFoYIRtVI-00541-00158875-00159123 super stupid superhuman abilities what NLuFoYIRtVI-00542-00159124-00159357 are they you defeat the other members NLuFoYIRtVI-00543-00159358-00159564 now if you want to go on all right I'll NLuFoYIRtVI-00544-00159565-00159606 do it NLuFoYIRtVI-00545-00159607-00159822 dude you again what you want to fight NLuFoYIRtVI-00546-00159823-00160361 against fear your abilities at get weak NLuFoYIRtVI-00547-00160362-00160745 superior doesn't that mean you're a NLuFoYIRtVI-00548-00160746-00161121 stronger player than others but I just NLuFoYIRtVI-00549-00161122-00161331 never mind don't get too cocky just NLuFoYIRtVI-00550-00161332-00161562 because you beat me okay previous duels NLuFoYIRtVI-00551-00161563-00161763 alright I've been raring to go I NLuFoYIRtVI-00552-00161764-00161937 remember I with special rules or section NLuFoYIRtVI-00553-00161938-00162306 of energy yes all right this is your NLuFoYIRtVI-00554-00162307-00162975 last chance now watch her beat me just NLuFoYIRtVI-00555-00162976-00163434 just because okay at or else again NLuFoYIRtVI-00556-00163435-00163800 let's try that again then I suppose see NLuFoYIRtVI-00557-00163801-00164139 how things go I only got the Rattata for NLuFoYIRtVI-00558-00164140-00164316 resistance in the future and whatnot NLuFoYIRtVI-00559-00164317-00164451 hopefully she doesn't leave with the NLuFoYIRtVI-00560-00164452-00164934 Mewtwo that has no she did well we'll NLuFoYIRtVI-00561-00164935-00165003 see how things go NLuFoYIRtVI-00562-00165004-00165300 I guess I'll this is a very similar NLuFoYIRtVI-00563-00165301-00165620 beginning here done NLuFoYIRtVI-00564-00165621-00166014 all rights bosses laid our cadaver for NLuFoYIRtVI-00565-00166015-00166386 the opera's of course and here comes the NLuFoYIRtVI-00566-00166387-00166671 energy spike maybe she'll be able to NLuFoYIRtVI-00567-00166672-00167103 move it maybe she won't she did nuts so NLuFoYIRtVI-00568-00167104-00167535 I will go ahead plop down there I'll NLuFoYIRtVI-00569-00167536-00167778 even do that I'm definitely doing that NLuFoYIRtVI-00570-00167779-00168471 and heads please thank you and if she NLuFoYIRtVI-00571-00168472-00168609 just has low energy in her doctor NLuFoYIRtVI-00572-00168610-00168729 something like that I don't know NLuFoYIRtVI-00573-00168730-00168972 all right energy spike maybe she'll be NLuFoYIRtVI-00574-00168973-00169107 able to offset nope NLuFoYIRtVI-00575-00169108-00169376 so I could still knock out that Mewtwo NLuFoYIRtVI-00576-00169377-00169734 pretty rapidly actually I actually I'll NLuFoYIRtVI-00577-00169735-00170001 guarantee I'll knock out that Mewtwo if NLuFoYIRtVI-00578-00170002-00170325 I get tails won't matter cap just just NLuFoYIRtVI-00579-00170326-00170502 to be sure that's gonna cause some NLuFoYIRtVI-00580-00170503-00170673 higher with the energy swapping NLuFoYIRtVI-00581-00170674-00171083 so yeah there's the other Mewtwo I'm NLuFoYIRtVI-00582-00171084-00171354 trying to get rid of this one as quickly NLuFoYIRtVI-00583-00171355-00171462 as possible NLuFoYIRtVI-00584-00171463-00171807 oh well well let's see how things go NLuFoYIRtVI-00585-00171808-00172155 here is you put it on the retina so I NLuFoYIRtVI-00586-00172156-00172350 can just keep Toral's probably filled NLuFoYIRtVI-00587-00172351-00172526 with energy to continue stomping away NLuFoYIRtVI-00588-00172527-00172782 yeah that's looking pretty good there NLuFoYIRtVI-00589-00172783-00173037 and just let her power up my other NLuFoYIRtVI-00590-00173038-00173358 Pokemon in whatever way she pleases I NLuFoYIRtVI-00591-00173359-00173505 guess this to me she'll get head coin NLuFoYIRtVI-00592-00173506-00173987 flips and had coin flip of the up okay NLuFoYIRtVI-00593-00173988-00174945 yeah that's okay oh no I did not just NLuFoYIRtVI-00594-00174946-00175109 guess NLuFoYIRtVI-00595-00175110-00176026 oh no well now she's not gonna be sigh NLuFoYIRtVI-00596-00176027-00176318 burning energy removal okay that might NLuFoYIRtVI-00597-00176319-00176483 be working for you because then if you NLuFoYIRtVI-00598-00176484-00176749 get the heads up here that will prevent NLuFoYIRtVI-00599-00176750-00176872 Toros from attacking NLuFoYIRtVI-00600-00176873-00177110 okay you've actually got something going NLuFoYIRtVI-00601-00177111-00177604 here I don't I definitely get a cadaver NLuFoYIRtVI-00602-00177605-00178268 I probably going there should I don't NLuFoYIRtVI-00603-00178269-00178424 flowers should I just go for the rattan NLuFoYIRtVI-00604-00178425-00178745 uh yeah I think I'll go for the Kadabra NLuFoYIRtVI-00605-00178746-00179065 and in the turn she can go ahead and NLuFoYIRtVI-00606-00179066-00179284 knock all Toro so she wants to hike yes NLuFoYIRtVI-00607-00179285-00179624 I've got a bunch of other stuff waiting NLuFoYIRtVI-00608-00179625-00179866 in the wings cleaning the other hammer NLuFoYIRtVI-00609-00179867-00180161 up and they're at a DAT to boot so there NLuFoYIRtVI-00610-00180162-00180236 you go NLuFoYIRtVI-00611-00180237-00180499 you can you can just do a little little NLuFoYIRtVI-00612-00180500-00180901 bit of that okay okay we got that NLuFoYIRtVI-00613-00180902-00181247 oh that up Dan and determine yeah cuz NLuFoYIRtVI-00614-00181248-00181397 I'm in an awkward spot because of the NLuFoYIRtVI-00615-00181398-00181753 head coin flips so yeah it's kind of NLuFoYIRtVI-00616-00181754-00182009 forced to do other sorts of powering up NLuFoYIRtVI-00617-00182010-00182186 otherwise which is no big deal because NLuFoYIRtVI-00618-00182187-00182419 energy car just kind of moved around NLuFoYIRtVI-00619-00182420-00182836 just go over your tatah and flop down NLuFoYIRtVI-00620-00182837-00183186 there cut that bra and we will bytes NLuFoYIRtVI-00621-00183187-00183494 take a little piece out of that some u2 NLuFoYIRtVI-00622-00183495-00183845 and side that pop salts she seems pretty NLuFoYIRtVI-00623-00183846-00184012 happy with that job maybe because she's NLuFoYIRtVI-00624-00184013-00184307 getting energy this time she's not gonna NLuFoYIRtVI-00625-00184308-00184537 be a little early yeah not really gonna NLuFoYIRtVI-00626-00184538-00184781 really attack of that professor all that NLuFoYIRtVI-00627-00184782-00185111 will be very helpful for her and bosses NLuFoYIRtVI-00628-00185112-00185396 way dark cadaver again I'm gonna guess NLuFoYIRtVI-00629-00185397-00185854 it's okay anyway oh yeah NLuFoYIRtVI-00630-00185855-00186124 dark goal doc it's uh needs a lot of NLuFoYIRtVI-00631-00186125-00186411 stuff a lot of stuff I think NLuFoYIRtVI-00632-00186412-00186620 Rattata will take care of that before NLuFoYIRtVI-00633-00186621-00187033 the four things get out of hand probably NLuFoYIRtVI-00634-00187034-00187453 will see it is a water pokemon though so NLuFoYIRtVI-00635-00187454-00187661 there's no no sort of resistance going NLuFoYIRtVI-00636-00187662-00187987 on I see I sell if you're still not NLuFoYIRtVI-00637-00187988-00188265 you're not powering up okay NLuFoYIRtVI-00638-00188266-00188768 all right lights and call it a turn NLuFoYIRtVI-00639-00188769-00189024 so yeah I was I was expecting her to use NLuFoYIRtVI-00640-00189025-00189218 dark gold luck because I'm using NLuFoYIRtVI-00641-00189219-00189519 colorless resistance so I thought you NLuFoYIRtVI-00642-00189520-00189693 would use that to kind of try and sweep NLuFoYIRtVI-00643-00189694-00190146 my field which is not maybe I maybe I NLuFoYIRtVI-00644-00190147-00190311 shouldn't have given her another chance NLuFoYIRtVI-00645-00190312-00190608 you know I just not be one of the best NLuFoYIRtVI-00646-00190609-00191019 players out there I'm gonna defend it NLuFoYIRtVI-00647-00191020-00191360 Rattata just in case and do a bite NLuFoYIRtVI-00648-00191361-00191786 because something else maybe are coming NLuFoYIRtVI-00649-00191787-00192084 maybe I don't know and I'm not counting NLuFoYIRtVI-00650-00192085-00192153 on it NLuFoYIRtVI-00651-00192154-00192462 so she says she put outside knock and NLuFoYIRtVI-00652-00192463-00192675 she's got the dizziness the dark are NLuFoYIRtVI-00653-00192676-00192984 that's not gonna do any damage at all I NLuFoYIRtVI-00654-00192985-00193134 mean it even as a matter of fact that NLuFoYIRtVI-00655-00193135-00193365 sie doch can't do any damage because NLuFoYIRtVI-00656-00193366-00193839 she's only got psychic energy um just go NLuFoYIRtVI-00657-00193840-00194159 ahead because power up the jinx and NLuFoYIRtVI-00658-00194160-00194598 nibble away I could actually switch over NLuFoYIRtVI-00659-00194599-00194967 to cadaver on just win if I let's just NLuFoYIRtVI-00660-00194968-00195198 see what she does I mean I gotta NLuFoYIRtVI-00661-00195199-00195438 literally win any time now even on the NLuFoYIRtVI-00662-00195439-00196098 last turn so I go just pop it on the NLuFoYIRtVI-00663-00196099-00196326 Jigglypuff and keysaw Wigglytuff NLuFoYIRtVI-00664-00196327-00196602 yeah yeah and you know Ratan has got a NLuFoYIRtVI-00665-00196603-00196811 free or cheat cost too right NLuFoYIRtVI-00666-00196812-00197220 and your Pokemon trader and yeah I just NLuFoYIRtVI-00667-00197221-00197562 oh we got we got something going on here NLuFoYIRtVI-00668-00197563-00198045 we got something going on here and NLuFoYIRtVI-00669-00198046-00198255 actually if I if I still search over NLuFoYIRtVI-00670-00198256-00198432 Kadabra it's still an automatic one NLuFoYIRtVI-00671-00198433-00198729 because a double psychic damage so yeah NLuFoYIRtVI-00672-00198730-00198813 all right NLuFoYIRtVI-00673-00198814-00199131 there's the mind shock ignores the NLuFoYIRtVI-00674-00199132-00199607 weakness and resistance sorry NLuFoYIRtVI-00675-00199608-00199848 now I have a Wigglytuff but I don't know NLuFoYIRtVI-00676-00199849-00200079 yet I got the super sized you'll do a NLuFoYIRtVI-00677-00200080-00200418 hundred art gala Kazaam yeah is I think NLuFoYIRtVI-00678-00200419-00200676 your deck purchases my ie my deck is NLuFoYIRtVI-00679-00200677-00201009 just too too well built versus Harris NLuFoYIRtVI-00680-00201010-00201189 because it just has a counter for NLuFoYIRtVI-00681-00201190-00201408 everything yep that might just be yet in NLuFoYIRtVI-00682-00201409-00201624 general what why NLuFoYIRtVI-00683-00201625-00202004 lose I'm so strong I even gave her NLuFoYIRtVI-00684-00202005-00202241 second chance and multiple chances in NLuFoYIRtVI-00685-00202242-00202845 that game it's not not happening it's NLuFoYIRtVI-00686-00202846-00203277 not happening not her day and for me NLuFoYIRtVI-00687-00203278-00203538 runs again and I'm a champ NLuFoYIRtVI-00688-00203539-00204299 oh no all anyway NLuFoYIRtVI-00689-00204300-00204600 okay look good I don't think your house NLuFoYIRtVI-00690-00204601-00204723 self just because you all became my NLuFoYIRtVI-00691-00204724-00205492 strength well I did it twice so I NLuFoYIRtVI-00692-00205494-00205683 technically didn't have that many issues NLuFoYIRtVI-00693-00205684-00205991 with you normally and anyway so I I NLuFoYIRtVI-00694-00205992-00206192 don't know I don't know what to make of NLuFoYIRtVI-00695-00206194-00206502 this all I know is that I'm gonna end NLuFoYIRtVI-00696-00206503-00206727 off the FIR here I hope you enjoyed and NLuFoYIRtVI-00697-00206728-00206864 I'll see you in the next start when I NLuFoYIRtVI-00698-00206865-00207089 beat the other two members probably I NLuFoYIRtVI-00699-00207090-00207269 mean maybe they'll be so powerful I NLuFoYIRtVI-00700-00207271-00207351 won't be able to NLuFoYIRtVI-00701-00207352-00207859 [Music] NLNQTXNVsgu-00000-00000026-00000313 further Eastern European time fete is a 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NO2RsINMWS4-00055-00015834-00016166 them to act and I would say as an NO2RsINMWS4-00056-00016166-00016334 organization this is where we have not NO2RsINMWS4-00057-00016335-00016685 done enough we can engage 22 million NO2RsINMWS4-00058-00016686-00016919 guests in our cause NO2RsINMWS4-00059-00016920-00017171 just think of each of them just gave 50 NO2RsINMWS4-00060-00017172-00017336 cents it's ten million dollars it's NO2RsINMWS4-00061-00017337-00017549 there's a lot that can happen and we're NO2RsINMWS4-00062-00017550-00017840 just beginning there NPJNG2rubrc-00000-00000080-00000398 Zealandia also known as the new zealand NPJNG2rubrc-00001-00000399-00000682 continent or Tasman tiss is an almost NPJNG2rubrc-00002-00000683-00000952 entirely submerged mass of continental NPJNG2rubrc-00003-00000953-00001237 crust that sank after breaking away from NPJNG2rubrc-00004-00001238-00001607 Australia 60 to 85 million years ago NPJNG2rubrc-00005-00001607-00001934 having separated from Antarctica 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and most of it 93% remained submerged NPJNG2rubrc-00020-00006654-00007067 beneath the Pacific Ocean with a total NPJNG2rubrc-00021-00007068-00007334 area of approximately four million nine NPJNG2rubrc-00022-00007334-00007562 hundred and twenty thousand square NPJNG2rubrc-00023-00007563-00007789 kilometres one million nine hundred NPJNG2rubrc-00024-00007790-00008126 thousand square miles it is the world's NPJNG2rubrc-00025-00008127-00008402 largest current micro-continent more NPJNG2rubrc-00026-00008403-00008651 than twice the size of the next largest NPJNG2rubrc-00027-00008652-00008942 micro continent and more than half the NPJNG2rubrc-00028-00008943-00009338 size of the Australian continent as such NPJNG2rubrc-00029-00009339-00009571 and due to other geological NPJNG2rubrc-00030-00009572-00009863 considerations such as crustal thickness NPJNG2rubrc-00031-00009864-00010169 and density it is arguably a continent NPJNG2rubrc-00032-00010170-00010489 in its own right this was the argument NPJNG2rubrc-00033-00010490-00010939 which made news in 2017 when geologists NPJNG2rubrc-00034-00010940-00011195 from New Zealand New Caledonia and NPJNG2rubrc-00035-00011196-00011467 Australia concluded that Zealandia NPJNG2rubrc-00036-00011468-00011708 fulfills all the requirements to be NPJNG2rubrc-00037-00011709-00011945 considered a continent rather than a NPJNG2rubrc-00038-00011946-00012248 micro continent or continental fragment NPJNG2rubrc-00039-00012249-00012553 Zealandia supports substantial inshore NPJNG2rubrc-00040-00012554-00012841 fisheries and contains gas fields of NPJNG2rubrc-00041-00012842-00013124 which the largest known is New Zealand's NPJNG2rubrc-00042-00013125-00013363 Maui gas field near Tarin NPJNG2rubrc-00043-00013365-00013741 oki permits for oil exploration in the NPJNG2rubrc-00044-00013743-00014185 great south basin were issued in 2007 NPJNG2rubrc-00045-00014186-00014488 offshore mineral resources include iron NPJNG2rubrc-00046-00014490-00014822 sands volcanic massive sulfides and NPJNG2rubrc-00047-00014822-00015628 ferromanganese nodule deposits NPJNG2rubrc-00048-00015629-00016211 topic geology NPJNG2rubrc-00049-00016212-00016505 Zealandia is largely made up of two NPJNG2rubrc-00050-00016506-00016803 nearly parallel ridges separated by a NPJNG2rubrc-00051-00016804-00017076 failed rift where the rift breakup of NPJNG2rubrc-00052-00017077-00017340 the continent stops and becomes a filled NPJNG2rubrc-00053-00017341-00017669 graben the ridges rise above the NPJNG2rubrc-00054-00017670-00018083 seafloor to heights of 1000 to 1500 NPJNG2rubrc-00055-00018084-00018750 meters 3,300 to 4900 feet with few rocky NPJNG2rubrc-00056-00018751-00019119 islands rising above sea level the NPJNG2rubrc-00057-00019120-00019368 ridges are continental rock but are NPJNG2rubrc-00058-00019369-00019560 lower in elevation than normal NPJNG2rubrc-00059-00019561-00019803 continents because the crust is thinner NPJNG2rubrc-00060-00019804-00020124 than usual approximately 20 kilometers NPJNG2rubrc-00061-00020125-00020454 12 miles thick and consequently they do NPJNG2rubrc-00062-00020455-00020669 not float as high above the Earth's NPJNG2rubrc-00063-00020670-00021183 mantle about 25 million years ago the NPJNG2rubrc-00064-00021184-00021419 southern part of Zealandia on the NPJNG2rubrc-00065-00021420-00021711 Pacific plate began to shift relative to NPJNG2rubrc-00066-00021712-00021960 the northern part on the indo-australian NPJNG2rubrc-00067-00021961-00022338 plate the resulting displacement by NPJNG2rubrc-00068-00022339-00022794 approximately 500 kilometers 310 miles NPJNG2rubrc-00069-00022795-00023106 along the Alpine Fault is evident in NPJNG2rubrc-00070-00023107-00023484 geological maps movement along this NPJNG2rubrc-00071-00023485-00023763 plate boundary has also offset the New NPJNG2rubrc-00072-00023764-00024031 Caledonia Basin from its previous NPJNG2rubrc-00073-00024032-00024419 continuation through the bounty trough NPJNG2rubrc-00074-00024420-00024666 compression across the boundary has NPJNG2rubrc-00075-00024667-00024944 uplifted the Southern Alps although due NPJNG2rubrc-00076-00024945-00025206 to rapid erosion their height reflects NPJNG2rubrc-00077-00025207-00025525 only a small fraction of the uplift NPJNG2rubrc-00078-00025526-00025683 farther north NPJNG2rubrc-00079-00025683-00025970 subduction of the Pacific plate has led NPJNG2rubrc-00080-00025972-00026246 to extensive volcanism including the NPJNG2rubrc-00081-00026247-00026675 Coromandel in Taupo volcanic zone x' NPJNG2rubrc-00082-00026676-00026955 associated rifting and subsidence has NPJNG2rubrc-00083-00026956-00027233 produced the hierarchy graben and more NPJNG2rubrc-00084-00027235-00027495 recently the fuk atonic Robin and NPJNG2rubrc-00085-00027495-00027951 Whanganui Basin volcanism on Zealandia NPJNG2rubrc-00086-00027952-00028227 has also taken place repeatedly in NPJNG2rubrc-00087-00028227-00028458 various parts of the continental NPJNG2rubrc-00088-00028458-00028719 fragment before during and after it NPJNG2rubrc-00089-00028720-00028920 rifted away from the supercontinent NPJNG2rubrc-00090-00028920-00029077 Gondwana NPJNG2rubrc-00091-00029078-00029339 although Zealandia has shifted NPJNG2rubrc-00092-00029339-00029566 approximately 6,000 NPJNG2rubrc-00093-00029567-00030052 meters 3,700 miles to the northwest with NPJNG2rubrc-00094-00030052-00030286 respect to the underlying mantle from NPJNG2rubrc-00095-00030287-00030552 the time when it rifted from Antarctica NPJNG2rubrc-00096-00030554-00030814 recurring intra continental volcanism NPJNG2rubrc-00097-00030814-00031111 exhibits magma compositions similar to NPJNG2rubrc-00098-00031112-00031420 that of volcanoes in previously adjacent NPJNG2rubrc-00099-00031420-00031833 parts of Antarctica in Australia this NPJNG2rubrc-00100-00031835-00032152 volcanism is widespread across Zealandia NPJNG2rubrc-00101-00032152-00032422 but generally of low volume apart from NPJNG2rubrc-00102-00032423-00032676 the huge mid to late myosin shield NPJNG2rubrc-00103-00032677-00032944 volcanoes that develop the banks and NPJNG2rubrc-00104-00032945-00033361 otago penninsula z' in addition it took NPJNG2rubrc-00105-00033362-00033625 place continually in numerous limited NPJNG2rubrc-00106-00033626-00033795 regions all through the Late Cretaceous NPJNG2rubrc-00107-00033796-00034270 in the Cenozoic however its cause is a NPJNG2rubrc-00108-00034271-00034600 still in dispute during the Maya scene NPJNG2rubrc-00109-00034601-00034888 the northern section of Zealandia Lord NPJNG2rubrc-00110-00034889-00035134 Howe rise might have slid over a NPJNG2rubrc-00111-00035135-00035443 stationary hotspot forming the Lord Howe NPJNG2rubrc-00112-00035444-00035899 seamount chain Zealandia is occasionally NPJNG2rubrc-00113-00035900-00036178 divided by scientists into two regions NPJNG2rubrc-00114-00036179-00036538 north Zealandia or western province and NPJNG2rubrc-00115-00036539-00036874 south Zealandia or eastern province the NPJNG2rubrc-00116-00036875-00037102 latter of which contains most of the NPJNG2rubrc-00117-00037103-00037441 median batholith crust these two NPJNG2rubrc-00118-00037442-00037705 features are separated by the Alpine NPJNG2rubrc-00119-00037706-00037939 Fault and comedic trench and by the NPJNG2rubrc-00120-00037940-00038206 wedge-shaped he Kerrang II Plateau and NPJNG2rubrc-00121-00038207-00038952 are moving separately to each other NPJNG2rubrc-00122-00038953-00039645 topic classification is a continent NPJNG2rubrc-00123-00039646-00039954 the case for Zealandia being a continent NPJNG2rubrc-00124-00039955-00040191 in its own right was argued by Nik NPJNG2rubrc-00125-00040192-00040443 Mortimer and Hamish Campbell in the book NPJNG2rubrc-00126-00040444-00040848 Zealandia our continent revealed in 2014 NPJNG2rubrc-00127-00040849-00041121 citing geological and ecological NPJNG2rubrc-00128-00041122-00041505 evidence to support the proposal in 2017 NPJNG2rubrc-00129-00041506-00041841 a team of 11 geologists from New Zealand NPJNG2rubrc-00130-00041842-00042168 New Caledonia and Australia concluded NPJNG2rubrc-00131-00042169-00042366 that Zealandia fulfills all the NPJNG2rubrc-00132-00042367-00042610 requirements to be considered a drowned NPJNG2rubrc-00133-00042611-00042906 continent rather than a micro continent NPJNG2rubrc-00134-00042907-00043279 or continental fragment this was widely NPJNG2rubrc-00135-00043280-00043971 covered by news media NPJNG2rubrc-00136-00043972-00044583 topic biogeography NPJNG2rubrc-00137-00044584-00044886 New Caledonia lies at the northern end NPJNG2rubrc-00138-00044887-00045126 of the ancient continent while New NPJNG2rubrc-00139-00045127-00045381 Zealand rises at the plate boundary that NPJNG2rubrc-00140-00045382-00045756 bisects it these land masses are two NPJNG2rubrc-00141-00045757-00045987 outposts of the Antarctic flora NPJNG2rubrc-00142-00045988-00046393 including our carriers and Podocarpus a NPJNG2rubrc-00143-00046394-00046767 curio bay logs of a fossilized forest NPJNG2rubrc-00144-00046768-00047034 closely related to modern carry in NPJNG2rubrc-00145-00047035-00047289 Norfolk pine can be seen that grew on NPJNG2rubrc-00146-00047290-00047658 Zealandia about 180 million years ago NPJNG2rubrc-00147-00047659-00047921 during the Jurassic period before it NPJNG2rubrc-00148-00047922-00048294 split from Gondwana these were buried by NPJNG2rubrc-00149-00048295-00048606 volcanic mudflows and gradually replaced NPJNG2rubrc-00150-00048607-00048879 by silica to produce the fossils now NPJNG2rubrc-00151-00048880-00049269 exposed by the sea during glacial NPJNG2rubrc-00152-00049270-00049593 periods more of Zealandia becomes a NPJNG2rubrc-00153-00049594-00049787 terrestrial rather than a marine NPJNG2rubrc-00154-00049788-00050162 environment Zealandia was originally NPJNG2rubrc-00155-00050163-00050409 thought to have no native land mammal NPJNG2rubrc-00156-00050410-00050781 fauna but the discovery in 2006 of a NPJNG2rubrc-00157-00050782-00051018 fossil mammal door from the Maya scene NPJNG2rubrc-00158-00051019-00051858 in the Otago region shows otherwise NPJNG2rubrc-00159-00051859-00052509 topic political divisions NPJNG2rubrc-00160-00052510-00052826 the total land area including inland NPJNG2rubrc-00161-00052827-00053132 water bodies of Zealandia is two hundred NPJNG2rubrc-00162-00053133-00053415 and eighty six thousand six hundred and NPJNG2rubrc-00163-00053416-00053787 fifty five square kilometers 110 NPJNG2rubrc-00164-00053788-00054024 thousand six hundred and seventy eight NPJNG2rubrc-00165-00054025-00054431 square miles of this new zealand NPJNG2rubrc-00166-00054432-00054735 comprises the majority at two hundred NPJNG2rubrc-00167-00054736-00054978 and sixty seven thousand nine hundred NPJNG2rubrc-00168-00054979-00055272 and eighty eight square kilometers one NPJNG2rubrc-00169-00055273-00055503 hundred and three thousand four hundred NPJNG2rubrc-00170-00055504-00055937 and seventy-one square miles or 93% NPJNG2rubrc-00171-00055938-00056196 which includes the mainland nearby NPJNG2rubrc-00172-00056197-00056456 islands and most outlying islands NPJNG2rubrc-00173-00056457-00056762 including the antipodes islands Auckland NPJNG2rubrc-00174-00056763-00056837 Islands NPJNG2rubrc-00175-00056838-00057113 bounty Islands Campbell Islands and NPJNG2rubrc-00176-00057114-00057362 Chatham Islands but not the comedic NPJNG2rubrc-00177-00057363-00057660 islands or Macquarie Island Australia NPJNG2rubrc-00178-00057661-00058104 which a part of the rift New Caledonia NPJNG2rubrc-00179-00058104-00058335 in the islands surrounding it comprise NPJNG2rubrc-00180-00058336-00058590 some eighteen thousand five hundred and NPJNG2rubrc-00181-00058591-00058904 seventy-six square kilometres seven NPJNG2rubrc-00182-00058905-00059121 thousand one hundred and seventy two NPJNG2rubrc-00183-00059122-00059441 square miles or seven percent and the NPJNG2rubrc-00184-00059442-00059649 remainder is made up of various NPJNG2rubrc-00185-00059650-00059937 territories of Australia including Lord NPJNG2rubrc-00186-00059938-00060356 Howe Island Group New South Wales at 56 NPJNG2rubrc-00187-00060357-00060797 square kilometres 22 square miles or NPJNG2rubrc-00188-00060798-00061241 0.2% Norfolk Island at 35 square NPJNG2rubrc-00189-00061242-00061779 kilometres 14 square miles or 0.01% as NPJNG2rubrc-00190-00061779-00062022 well as Elizabeth and Middleton reefs NPJNG2rubrc-00191-00062023-00062466 Coral Sea Islands territory with 0.25 NPJNG2rubrc-00192-00062466-00063504 square kilometres 0.097 square miles NPJNG2rubrc-00193-00063505-00064076 topic population NPJNG2rubrc-00194-00064077-00064417 the total human population of Zealandia NPJNG2rubrc-00195-00064419-00064922 today is about 5 million people new NPJNG2rubrc-00196-00064923-00065155 zealand 4 million eight hundred and NPJNG2rubrc-00197-00065157-00065408 twenty three thousand one hundred and NPJNG2rubrc-00198-00065409-00065621 ninety three NPJNG2rubrc-00199-00065622-00065942 New Caledonia two hundred and sixty NPJNG2rubrc-00200-00065943-00066125 eight thousand seven hundred and NPJNG2rubrc-00201-00066126-00066619 sixty-seven Norfolk Island NPJNG2rubrc-00202-00066620-00067336 2210 Lord Howe Island Group 382 NPJNG2rubrc-00203-00067337-00067835 Elizabeth reef and Middleton reef zero NR3kWoW2Uyu-00000-00000049-00000369 today in China there are more than 8,000 NR3kWoW2Uyu-00001-00000370-00000587 academic journals of which more than NR3kWoW2Uyu-00002-00000588-00001054 4,600 can be considered scientific about NR3kWoW2Uyu-00003-00001055-00001353 1,400 cover health science medicine and NR3kWoW2Uyu-00004-00001354-00001930 public health NR3kWoW2Uyu-00005-00001930-00002443 topic journals NR3kWoW2Uyu-00006-00002444-00002716 most scientific journals in China are NR3kWoW2Uyu-00007-00002717-00002946 supported by central regional or local 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NR3kWoW2Uyu-00171-00049481-00050047 al scientific research publishing NV726P2PmQu-00000-00000041-00000383 [Music] NV726P2PmQu-00001-00000384-00000519 the scope of the lab NV726P2PmQu-00002-00000520-00000831 is really to think again how light NV726P2PmQu-00003-00000832-00001158 interacts with solids and how we can NV726P2PmQu-00004-00001159-00001582 convert solar energies into electricity NV726P2PmQu-00005-00001583-00001855 or how we can store solar energies into NV726P2PmQu-00006-00001855-00002014 chemical bonds NV726P2PmQu-00007-00002016-00002207 so it's really how you can collect NV726P2PmQu-00008-00002208-00002318 effectively NV726P2PmQu-00009-00002319-00002623 solar photons using thin film materials NV726P2PmQu-00010-00002624-00002655 with NV726P2PmQu-00011-00002656-00002839 specific optical and electrical NV726P2PmQu-00012-00002840-00003063 properties and how these photons can be NV726P2PmQu-00013-00003064-00003175 effectively NV726P2PmQu-00014-00003176-00003463 converted into electrical charges thin NV726P2PmQu-00015-00003464-00003575 film technologies NV726P2PmQu-00016-00003576-00003903 are really ways to deposit NV726P2PmQu-00017-00003904-00004206 an alloy with specific elements onto a NV726P2PmQu-00018-00004207-00004399 substrate and the main way NV726P2PmQu-00019-00004400-00004599 to create these thin films is really NV726P2PmQu-00020-00004600-00004735 with vacuum chambers NV726P2PmQu-00021-00004736-00004983 again where you have the physical piece NV726P2PmQu-00022-00004984-00005038 of metal NV726P2PmQu-00023-00005039-00005254 either you can evaporate that metal or NV726P2PmQu-00024-00005255-00005486 you can bombard this metal with ions NV726P2PmQu-00025-00005487-00005822 to create a vapor of a specific NV726P2PmQu-00026-00005823-00006063 element and again this plume is going to NV726P2PmQu-00027-00006064-00006143 just NV726P2PmQu-00028-00006144-00006351 travel into the vacuum chamber and NV726P2PmQu-00029-00006352-00006495 eventually condense NV726P2PmQu-00030-00006495-00006687 onto the substrate to form your thin NV726P2PmQu-00031-00006688-00006934 film in terms of efficiency i would say NV726P2PmQu-00032-00006936-00007006 thin films NV726P2PmQu-00033-00007008-00007255 and standard crystalline silicon are NV726P2PmQu-00034-00007256-00007414 pretty much at the same level at about NV726P2PmQu-00035-00007415-00007623 23 to 25 NV726P2PmQu-00036-00007623-00007831 solar to electricity conversion the NV726P2PmQu-00037-00007831-00008014 reasoning behind using thin films is NV726P2PmQu-00038-00008015-00008159 really to try to reduce either the NV726P2PmQu-00039-00008159-00008231 weight NV726P2PmQu-00040-00008232-00008527 or the cost and the cost to create these NV726P2PmQu-00041-00008528-00008599 solar panels NV726P2PmQu-00042-00008600-00008878 will be greatly reduced if you use cheap NV726P2PmQu-00043-00008879-00009095 synthesis processes as opposed to vacuum NV726P2PmQu-00044-00009096-00009231 based technologies NV726P2PmQu-00045-00009232-00009374 what we try to do in my lab is to NV726P2PmQu-00046-00009375-00009567 replace these very costly and labor NV726P2PmQu-00047-00009568-00009646 intensive NV726P2PmQu-00048-00009647-00009951 techniques with cheaper methods NV726P2PmQu-00049-00009952-00010246 using molecular inks that contains NV726P2PmQu-00050-00010247-00010406 already all the chemical elements NV726P2PmQu-00051-00010407-00010623 we can formulate and create this ink NV726P2PmQu-00052-00010624-00010751 directly in the glovebox NV726P2PmQu-00053-00010752-00011023 and we can essentially print or spray NV726P2PmQu-00054-00011024-00011119 these inks NV726P2PmQu-00055-00011120-00011319 onto a substrate we don't need a vacuum NV726P2PmQu-00056-00011320-00011478 chamber for this we don't need high NV726P2PmQu-00057-00011479-00011678 power we don't need vacuum pumps NV726P2PmQu-00058-00011679-00011919 this type of approach allows us to study NV726P2PmQu-00059-00011920-00012127 new materials that simply cannot be NV726P2PmQu-00060-00012128-00012367 deposited with vacuum techniques either NV726P2PmQu-00061-00012368-00012446 because they are not NV726P2PmQu-00062-00012447-00012767 compatible in a vacuum chamber or NV726P2PmQu-00063-00012768-00013007 they just require very high temperature NV726P2PmQu-00064-00013008-00013127 to be evaporated NV726P2PmQu-00065-00013128-00013422 when you report efficiencies in the pv NV726P2PmQu-00066-00013423-00013583 world on the solar world NV726P2PmQu-00067-00013584-00013830 you have to do that under very specific NV726P2PmQu-00068-00013831-00013951 illumination NV726P2PmQu-00069-00013952-00014151 conditions and so instead of being NV726P2PmQu-00070-00014152-00014358 outside and waiting for the sun NV726P2PmQu-00071-00014359-00014591 and the weather to cooperate we actually NV726P2PmQu-00072-00014591-00014719 have an artificial NV726P2PmQu-00073-00014719-00014966 sunlight in the lab so we can just do NV726P2PmQu-00074-00014968-00015094 all our tests NV726P2PmQu-00075-00015095-00015319 in the lab comfortably sitting behind NV726P2PmQu-00076-00015319-00015407 the computer NV726P2PmQu-00077-00015408-00015630 with the ac running we work with NV726P2PmQu-00078-00015631-00015775 stanford university NV726P2PmQu-00079-00015776-00016086 the university of lebanon nrel as well NV726P2PmQu-00080-00016087-00016222 as lawrence livermore national NV726P2PmQu-00081-00016223-00016383 laboratory so it's really through the NV726P2PmQu-00082-00016384-00016543 collaboration that we actually NV726P2PmQu-00083-00016544-00016783 flourish and and expand our research NV726P2PmQu-00084-00016784-00016919 really here in hawaii NV726P2PmQu-00085-00016920-00017063 i should say that the work that we do in NV726P2PmQu-00086-00017064-00017239 the lab is not necessarily out for NV726P2PmQu-00087-00017240-00017383 commercialization yet NV726P2PmQu-00088-00017384-00017575 still looking at technologies that could NV726P2PmQu-00089-00017576-00017855 be applied maybe 10 15 years from now NV726P2PmQu-00090-00017856-00018079 and i think as far as hni is concerned NV726P2PmQu-00091-00018080-00018230 and the collaboration that we have NV726P2PmQu-00092-00018231-00018375 it's extremely important to look at the NV726P2PmQu-00093-00018376-00018575 technologies there are today and see how NV726P2PmQu-00094-00018576-00018743 these technologies can be integrated NV726P2PmQu-00095-00018744-00019047 in the grid and overall could we even NV726P2PmQu-00096-00019048-00019255 add more of these pv modules onto the NV726P2PmQu-00097-00019256-00019447 grid with the help of storage NV726P2PmQu-00098-00019448-00019679 as batteries or through the integration NV726P2PmQu-00099-00019680-00020559 of fuel cell and hydrogen technology NVxVyx35L3E-00000-00000048-00000279 reading blogs and watching videos on NVxVyx35L3E-00001-00000280-00000390 porosity NVxVyx35L3E-00002-00000391-00000615 can make you feel like high porosity is NVxVyx35L3E-00003-00000616-00000774 always self-inflicted NVxVyx35L3E-00004-00000775-00000911 and that it's something that needs to be NVxVyx35L3E-00005-00000911-00001278 reversed that's not always the case NVxVyx35L3E-00006-00001279-00001503 many people have naturally higher NVxVyx35L3E-00007-00001504-00001655 porosity hair NVxVyx35L3E-00008-00001655-00001863 meaning the new growth that comes out of NVxVyx35L3E-00009-00001864-00001959 their scalp NVxVyx35L3E-00010-00001960-00002183 has thinner and more fragile cuticle NVxVyx35L3E-00011-00002184-00002279 layers NVxVyx35L3E-00012-00002280-00002518 so people with naturally high porosity NVxVyx35L3E-00013-00002519-00002583 hair NVxVyx35L3E-00014-00002584-00002934 tend to also have finer hair strands NVxVyx35L3E-00015-00002935-00003199 if you find your balance high porosity NVxVyx35L3E-00016-00003200-00003327 hair types can retain NVxVyx35L3E-00017-00003328-00003559 a lot of length with some serious hang NVxVyx35L3E-00018-00003560-00003911 time without ever having to use heat NVxVyx35L3E-00019-00003911-00004151 porosity does not determine your hair's NVxVyx35L3E-00020-00004152-00004270 potential NVxVyx35L3E-00021-00004271-00004638 and porosity is not the be-all end-all NVxVyx35L3E-00022-00004639-00004847 check out these youtube channels these NVxVyx35L3E-00023-00004848-00004975 ladies have healthy NVxVyx35L3E-00024-00004976-00005311 thriving naturally high porosity hair NVxVyx35L3E-00025-00005312-00005447 and they talk about it from their NVxVyx35L3E-00026-00005448-00005615 perspective NVxVyx35L3E-00027-00005616-00005831 and as you saw in the last video high NVxVyx35L3E-00028-00005832-00006102 porosity can also be self-inflicted NVxVyx35L3E-00029-00006103-00006399 through heat damage greenhouse overload NVxVyx35L3E-00030-00006400-00006518 over manipulation NVxVyx35L3E-00031-00006519-00006863 and neglect and chemical damage NVxVyx35L3E-00032-00006864-00007083 while these two scenarios are both high NVxVyx35L3E-00033-00007084-00007423 porosity they don't always look the same NVxVyx35L3E-00034-00007423-00007646 hair strands that are naturally higher NVxVyx35L3E-00035-00007647-00007751 in porosity NVxVyx35L3E-00036-00007752-00007974 does not always have to have damaged NVxVyx35L3E-00037-00007975-00008263 torn or have exaggerated lifts NVxVyx35L3E-00038-00008264-00008431 the cuticles could just be slightly NVxVyx35L3E-00039-00008432-00008599 lifted or relaxed NVxVyx35L3E-00040-00008600-00008774 or the cuticles could just be thinner NVxVyx35L3E-00041-00008775-00008959 than average NVxVyx35L3E-00042-00008960-00009271 a self-inflicted increase in porosity is NVxVyx35L3E-00043-00009272-00009478 where you'll see more severe tears NVxVyx35L3E-00044-00009479-00009783 lifts and missing cuticles it doesn't NVxVyx35L3E-00045-00009784-00009878 matter if you have NVxVyx35L3E-00046-00009879-00010191 naturally high porosity hair or if you NVxVyx35L3E-00047-00010192-00010438 caused your hair to become more porous NVxVyx35L3E-00048-00010439-00010799 high porosity is permanent but there are NVxVyx35L3E-00049-00010800-00010983 minor tweaks you can make to your hair NVxVyx35L3E-00050-00010984-00011174 regimen to find your balance NVxVyx35L3E-00051-00011175-00011471 and keep your hair thriving apart from NVxVyx35L3E-00052-00011472-00011631 keeping your scalp clean NVxVyx35L3E-00053-00011632-00011919 your hair moisturized and lubricated and NVxVyx35L3E-00054-00011920-00012063 your ends happy NVxVyx35L3E-00055-00012064-00012255 there are a few things high porosity NVxVyx35L3E-00056-00012256-00012583 hair types should pay extra attention to NVxVyx35L3E-00057-00012584-00012935 here are some tips protein treatments NVxVyx35L3E-00058-00012936-00013127 are especially beneficial to high NVxVyx35L3E-00059-00013128-00013311 porosity hair types NVxVyx35L3E-00060-00013312-00013535 they create a thin film over your hair NVxVyx35L3E-00061-00013536-00013775 strands that acts as a temporary NVxVyx35L3E-00062-00013776-00014015 protective coat and gives your cuticles NVxVyx35L3E-00063-00014016-00014255 a little break for a while NVxVyx35L3E-00064-00014256-00014447 protein molecules come in different NVxVyx35L3E-00065-00014447-00014607 shapes and sizes NVxVyx35L3E-00066-00014608-00014815 some create a thick coat around your NVxVyx35L3E-00067-00014816-00015007 hair and barely penetrate NVxVyx35L3E-00068-00015008-00015191 and others create a thinner more NVxVyx35L3E-00069-00015191-00015375 breathable coat around your hair NVxVyx35L3E-00070-00015376-00015727 and absorb deeper into your hair strands NVxVyx35L3E-00071-00015728-00016015 high porosity hair can handle using most NVxVyx35L3E-00072-00016016-00016191 store-bought protein treatments NVxVyx35L3E-00073-00016191-00016503 with larger protein molecules NVxVyx35L3E-00074-00016504-00016735 but it's best to use a protein treatment NVxVyx35L3E-00075-00016736-00016975 with smaller protein molecules NVxVyx35L3E-00076-00016976-00017199 like the real protein treatment because NVxVyx35L3E-00077-00017200-00017407 it's small enough to penetrate and bind NVxVyx35L3E-00078-00017408-00017630 with deeper parts of your hair strands NVxVyx35L3E-00079-00017631-00017799 and create a more breathable and NVxVyx35L3E-00080-00017800-00018014 flexible coat NVxVyx35L3E-00081-00018015-00018222 this way your hair strands are strong NVxVyx35L3E-00082-00018223-00018414 and breakage resistant NVxVyx35L3E-00083-00018415-00018735 but still flexible and soft NVxVyx35L3E-00084-00018736-00018991 if your hair is high in porosity try NVxVyx35L3E-00085-00018992-00019150 adding protein treatments to your NVxVyx35L3E-00086-00019151-00019327 regimen NVxVyx35L3E-00087-00019328-00019527 keeping high porosity hair strands NVxVyx35L3E-00088-00019528-00019735 properly coated and protected NVxVyx35L3E-00089-00019736-00020063 is very beneficial so if you feel like NVxVyx35L3E-00090-00020064-00020294 your hair regimen is missing something NVxVyx35L3E-00091-00020295-00020519 try adding the product with a mucilage NVxVyx35L3E-00092-00020520-00020678 texture NVxVyx35L3E-00093-00020679-00020871 they stick onto and coat your hair NVxVyx35L3E-00094-00020872-00021014 strands really well NVxVyx35L3E-00095-00021015-00021278 and don't have to be reapplied as much NVxVyx35L3E-00096-00021279-00021455 experiment with ingredients like NVxVyx35L3E-00097-00021456-00021575 slippery elm NVxVyx35L3E-00098-00021576-00021863 marshmallow root chai seeds or flax NVxVyx35L3E-00099-00021864-00021911 seeds NVxVyx35L3E-00100-00021912-00022158 just to name a few or look for them in NVxVyx35L3E-00101-00022159-00022439 the ingredients list and products NVxVyx35L3E-00102-00022440-00022783 all textured hair hates being dry NVxVyx35L3E-00103-00022784-00023022 but high porosity hair is especially NVxVyx35L3E-00104-00023023-00023263 prone and sensitive to dryness NVxVyx35L3E-00105-00023264-00023471 it breaks a lot more than low porosity NVxVyx35L3E-00106-00023472-00023639 hair types when it's dry NVxVyx35L3E-00107-00023640-00024014 and dries out a lot faster as well so NVxVyx35L3E-00108-00024015-00024286 it's important to take extra efforts to NVxVyx35L3E-00109-00024287-00024503 always keep this hair type from drying NVxVyx35L3E-00110-00024504-00024678 out to a certain point NVxVyx35L3E-00111-00024679-00024919 this looks different for everyone the NVxVyx35L3E-00112-00024920-00025022 goal is to stay NVxVyx35L3E-00113-00025023-00025311 ahead of the dryness for some people it NVxVyx35L3E-00114-00025312-00025535 means re-moisturizing every night NVxVyx35L3E-00115-00025536-00025855 or every other night or every week NVxVyx35L3E-00116-00025856-00026094 i can't talk about high porosity hair NVxVyx35L3E-00117-00026095-00026367 without talking about gentle handling NVxVyx35L3E-00118-00026368-00026599 when you hear anything about tension NVxVyx35L3E-00119-00026600-00026814 it's usually referring to your scalp NVxVyx35L3E-00120-00026816-00026999 we don't hear much about tension to your NVxVyx35L3E-00121-00027000-00027183 hair strands NVxVyx35L3E-00122-00027183-00027399 the cuticle layer on high porosity hair NVxVyx35L3E-00123-00027400-00027599 strands are already fragile NVxVyx35L3E-00124-00027600-00027902 so it's easy to damage them NVxVyx35L3E-00125-00027904-00028111 avoid pulling on your hair strands or NVxVyx35L3E-00126-00028112-00028390 forcing it into tight braids or twists NVxVyx35L3E-00127-00028391-00028607 practice installing your braids and NVxVyx35L3E-00128-00028608-00028855 twist looser NVxVyx35L3E-00129-00028856-00029079 at least loose enough where your braid NVxVyx35L3E-00130-00029080-00029270 isn't stiff and still has some wiggle NVxVyx35L3E-00131-00029272-00029423 room NVxVyx35L3E-00132-00029424-00029727 and switch these tight hair ties to NVxVyx35L3E-00133-00029727-00030031 these satin hair ties or NVxVyx35L3E-00134-00030032-00030383 stockings to a puff cuff NVxVyx35L3E-00135-00030383-00030607 these small changes to your hair regimen 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NZhiSDrs2D4-00009-00002717-00002875 join Keitha me this afternoon NZhiSDrs2D4-00010-00002876-00003058 thank you for having me so we had a NZhiSDrs2D4-00011-00003059-00003227 great day we've talked to eight or nine NZhiSDrs2D4-00012-00003228-00003518 folks or so lots of really relevant NZhiSDrs2D4-00013-00003519-00003803 exciting news from Citrix this morning NZhiSDrs2D4-00014-00003804-00004127 talking about the employee experience as NZhiSDrs2D4-00015-00004128-00004319 and how I kind of interpreted as a NZhiSDrs2D4-00016-00004320-00004550 catalyst for digital transformation NZhiSDrs2D4-00017-00004551-00004727 cultural transformation you've been NZhiSDrs2D4-00018-00004728-00004916 working with Citrix for a long time I'd NZhiSDrs2D4-00019-00004917-00005228 love to get your perspective on not just NZhiSDrs2D4-00020-00005229-00005453 what you heard today from Citrix and NZhiSDrs2D4-00021-00005454-00005666 with Google and Microsoft but in the NZhiSDrs2D4-00022-00005667-00005837 last year or so since they've really NZhiSDrs2D4-00023-00005838-00006035 kind of done a rebrand effort what are NZhiSDrs2D4-00024-00006036-00006293 your thoughts on that yeah it's it's NZhiSDrs2D4-00025-00006294-00006448 interesting from a Citrix perspective NZhiSDrs2D4-00026-00006450-00006725 Citrix the old Citrix I guess I put in NZhiSDrs2D4-00027-00006726-00006956 quotes right was always known as the VDI NZhiSDrs2D4-00028-00006956-00007238 company I've got you know the screen NZhiSDrs2D4-00029-00007239-00007433 that will talk to the server that will NZhiSDrs2D4-00030-00007434-00007667 talk to whether ever apps I need to talk NZhiSDrs2D4-00031-00007668-00008000 to and I can have a nice thin client NZhiSDrs2D4-00032-00008001-00008159 sitting on my desktop and I don't have NZhiSDrs2D4-00033-00008159-00008282 to spend a lot of money and I also don't NZhiSDrs2D4-00034-00008283-00008396 have to worry about if I'm in a bank NZhiSDrs2D4-00035-00008397-00008633 people stealing stuff off the hard drive NZhiSDrs2D4-00036-00008634-00008969 or whatever they made a pretty NZhiSDrs2D4-00037-00008970-00009245 significant transition that was the the NZhiSDrs2D4-00038-00009246-00009635 old work space if you will the modern NZhiSDrs2D4-00039-00009636-00009857 work spaces which is where Citrix is NZhiSDrs2D4-00040-00009858-00010256 really moving is one where look we've NZhiSDrs2D4-00041-00010257-00010418 all grown up with smartphones for the NZhiSDrs2D4-00042-00010419-00010637 last 10 or 15 years our our kids don't NZhiSDrs2D4-00043-00010638-00010799 know anything different they're not NZhiSDrs2D4-00044-00010800-00011048 gonna deal with anything that's complex NZhiSDrs2D4-00045-00011049-00011231 anything where I have to drag in and out NZhiSDrs2D4-00046-00011232-00011441 of applications anything where I have to NZhiSDrs2D4-00047-00011442-00011723 switch between screens this just doesn't NZhiSDrs2D4-00048-00011724-00011945 make any sense for them and so what NZhiSDrs2D4-00049-00011946-00012032 we're seeing NZhiSDrs2D4-00050-00012033-00012302 Citrix do is move into an environment NZhiSDrs2D4-00051-00012303-00012545 where as I said it's about the modern NZhiSDrs2D4-00052-00012546-00012739 workspace it's about being able to help NZhiSDrs2D4-00053-00012740-00013012 me do my job not getting in my way of me NZhiSDrs2D4-00054-00013013-00013307 doing my job and that's really the NZhiSDrs2D4-00055-00013308-00013511 transition it's not just citrix the NZhiSDrs2D4-00056-00013512-00013652 industry is moving in that direction as NZhiSDrs2D4-00057-00013653-00013850 well but Citrix is really at the NZhiSDrs2D4-00058-00013851-00014047 forefront of making a lot of that work NZhiSDrs2D4-00059-00014049-00014572 now so it's about the new promise of the NZhiSDrs2D4-00060-00014574-00014894 new Citrix the crew member may have to NZhiSDrs2D4-00061-00014894-00015053 be made about seven years ago I did a NZhiSDrs2D4-00062-00015054-00015362 blog post of running Windows XP on your NZhiSDrs2D4-00063-00015363-00015734 iPad it was taking you know the Zen NZhiSDrs2D4-00064-00015735-00015935 desktop solution and running it on your NZhiSDrs2D4-00065-00015936-00016208 iPad it was a cool trick but we talked NZhiSDrs2D4-00066-00016209-00016379 about today you know we were we would NZhiSDrs2D4-00067-00016380-00016625 hope by today that mobile technology NZhiSDrs2D4-00068-00016626-00016874 would have forced companies to rewrite NZhiSDrs2D4-00069-00016875-00017300 applications for the mobile first NZhiSDrs2D4-00070-00017301-00017477 experience but that simply hasn't NZhiSDrs2D4-00071-00017478-00018002 happened so presenting a bad application NZhiSDrs2D4-00072-00018003-00018209 onto a mobile dot on a mobile NZhiSDrs2D4-00073-00018210-00018461 workstation or a mobile device doesn't NZhiSDrs2D4-00074-00018462-00018674 work we end up packing in trying and NZhiSDrs2D4-00075-00018675-00018830 squeezing and trying to get our work NZhiSDrs2D4-00076-00018831-00018922 done NZhiSDrs2D4-00077-00018923-00019325 how was Citrix promising to change that NZhiSDrs2D4-00078-00019326-00019580 experience even versus their competitors NZhiSDrs2D4-00079-00019581-00019844 sure well first of all so tube ads don't NZhiSDrs2D4-00080-00019845-00020141 make it good right having a bad app on a NZhiSDrs2D4-00081-00020142-00020342 bad device doesn't make it good doesn't NZhiSDrs2D4-00082-00020343-00020483 make it easy to use doesn't help me get NZhiSDrs2D4-00083-00020484-00020711 my job done what we really are talking NZhiSDrs2D4-00084-00020712-00021089 about now is the ability to to build a NZhiSDrs2D4-00085-00021090-00021365 workspace something where I I sit and NZhiSDrs2D4-00086-00021366-00021638 look at that helps me get my job done as NZhiSDrs2D4-00087-00021639-00021767 opposed to getting in the way which NZhiSDrs2D4-00088-00021768-00022037 means that instead of having a punch 14 NZhiSDrs2D4-00089-00022038-00022400 different holes or you know icons and NZhiSDrs2D4-00090-00022401-00022694 città my my keyboard and type 48 NZhiSDrs2D4-00091-00022695-00022907 different commands and and do 38 NZhiSDrs2D4-00092-00022908-00023066 different logins because each one is NZhiSDrs2D4-00093-00023067-00023186 different and by the way I couldn't NZhiSDrs2D4-00094-00023187-00023303 remember them so I just calls the help NZhiSDrs2D4-00095-00023304-00023477 desk in between and that's another half NZhiSDrs2D4-00096-00023478-00023615 an hour of my time that I didn't want to NZhiSDrs2D4-00097-00023616-00023933 waste it to be my WordPerfect templates NZhiSDrs2D4-00098-00023934-00024125 there you go there you go we're perfect NZhiSDrs2D4-00099-00024126-00024394 I remember that not so well I remember NZhiSDrs2D4-00100-00024395-00024710 it well not so nicely what we're really NZhiSDrs2D4-00101-00024711-00024908 trying to focus on now is is user NZhiSDrs2D4-00102-00024909-00025049 experience right what we're really NZhiSDrs2D4-00103-00025050-00025355 trying to focus on is if if you want to NZhiSDrs2D4-00104-00025356-00025607 get your work done I want to make it NZhiSDrs2D4-00105-00025608-00025793 easy think about it as going to a NZhiSDrs2D4-00106-00025794-00026018 grocery store if you can't if you've got NZhiSDrs2D4-00107-00026019-00026189 a list of groceries and you can't find NZhiSDrs2D4-00108-00026189-00026342 what you want and then in five minutes NZhiSDrs2D4-00109-00026343-00026510 you leave you go somewhere else you go NZhiSDrs2D4-00110-00026511-00026666 to another grocery store where things NZhiSDrs2D4-00111-00026667-00026902 much easier to find it's the same at NZhiSDrs2D4-00112-00026904-00027104 work or should be the same at work now NZhiSDrs2D4-00113-00027105-00027476 that said a lot of apps in organizations NZhiSDrs2D4-00114-00027477-00027658 especially big enterprises where they NZhiSDrs2D4-00115-00027660-00027938 have some can have literally thousands NZhiSDrs2D4-00116-00027939-00028264 of apps are not going away the notion NZhiSDrs2D4-00117-00028266-00028414 that everything is going to go into the NZhiSDrs2D4-00118-00028416-00028570 modern workspace where everything looks NZhiSDrs2D4-00119-00028572-00028886 like a phone it's a nice idea it's NZhiSDrs2D4-00120-00028887-00029006 probably not going to happen NZhiSDrs2D4-00121-00029007-00029237 legacy apps will be legacy apps for a NZhiSDrs2D4-00122-00029238-00029399 very long time it's like mainframes are NZhiSDrs2D4-00123-00029400-00029572 dead guess what they're still around NZhiSDrs2D4-00124-00029573-00029855 that said that doesn't mean that you NZhiSDrs2D4-00125-00029856-00030089 can't take some of those legacy apps it NZhiSDrs2D4-00126-00030089-00030326 makes them easier to use with the proper NZhiSDrs2D4-00127-00030327-00030554 front-end and that's really what Citrix NZhiSDrs2D4-00128-00030555-00030767 is trying to do with with the workspaces NZhiSDrs2D4-00129-00030768-00030970 and and others again are it's not just NZhiSDrs2D4-00130-00030972-00031100 Citrix in the industry we have to be NZhiSDrs2D4-00131-00031101-00031226 fair there are lots of people working in NZhiSDrs2D4-00132-00031227-00031457 this space but if you can make the NZhiSDrs2D4-00133-00031458-00031724 front-end workspace more attractive NZhiSDrs2D4-00134-00031725-00031939 easier to use easier to navigate even if NZhiSDrs2D4-00135-00031941-00032174 I've got old clunky stuff in the NZhiSDrs2D4-00136-00032175-00032447 background for me as a user you can give NZhiSDrs2D4-00137-00032448-00032663 me back 15 20 30 minutes a day an hour a NZhiSDrs2D4-00138-00032664-00032885 day that's real productivity look if NZhiSDrs2D4-00139-00032886-00033287 you're paying me $100 an hour and you NZhiSDrs2D4-00140-00033288-00033605 save me an hour a day you've just made NZhiSDrs2D4-00141-00033606-00033869 $100 every day that I'm working at that NZhiSDrs2D4-00142-00033870-00034139 company that's a sounds like a lot but NZhiSDrs2D4-00143-00034140-00034301 there are people who make that kind of NZhiSDrs2D4-00144-00034302-00034544 money or even a 50 or $25 it all adds up NZhiSDrs2D4-00145-00034545-00034733 and so what we're really doing is trying NZhiSDrs2D4-00146-00034734-00034916 to move into an environment where if I NZhiSDrs2D4-00147-00034917-00035150 can make you more productive NZhiSDrs2D4-00148-00035151-00035372 by making things easier for you to NZhiSDrs2D4-00149-00035373-00035558 navigate and getting to app in and out NZhiSDrs2D4-00150-00035559-00035720 of applications more quickly getting NZhiSDrs2D4-00151-00035721-00035900 information to me more quickly which NZhiSDrs2D4-00152-00035901-00036104 makes the overall organization more NZhiSDrs2D4-00153-00036105-00036200 productive because I'm sharing NZhiSDrs2D4-00154-00036201-00036383 information with you then that's a real NZhiSDrs2D4-00155-00036384-00036563 win-win and that's where I think Citrix NZhiSDrs2D4-00156-00036564-00036764 is really trying to position itself and NZhiSDrs2D4-00157-00036765-00037067 and doing a fairly good job of doing NZhiSDrs2D4-00158-00037068-00037268 that I clearly don't have all of the NZhiSDrs2D4-00159-00037269-00037460 components yet but then no one does it's NZhiSDrs2D4-00160-00037461-00037685 this is an ongoing process so employee NZhiSDrs2D4-00161-00037686-00037958 experience is table stakes for any NZhiSDrs2D4-00162-00037959-00038108 business as we look at the modern NZhiSDrs2D4-00163-00038109-00038387 workforce it's highly distributed yes NZhiSDrs2D4-00164-00038388-00038537 it's composed of five different NZhiSDrs2D4-00165-00038538-00038801 generations yes who have varying NZhiSDrs2D4-00166-00038802-00039169 expertise with technology it is also NZhiSDrs2D4-00167-00039170-00039416 demanding because we're all consumers NZhiSDrs2D4-00168-00039417-00039638 and so we have this expectation or this NZhiSDrs2D4-00169-00039639-00039890 I'd say expectation that I want to be NZhiSDrs2D4-00170-00039891-00040001 able to go in and have this NZhiSDrs2D4-00171-00040002-00040165 personalized experience I don't want to NZhiSDrs2D4-00172-00040166-00040301 have to become an expert in Salesforce NZhiSDrs2D4-00173-00040302-00040480 because I might need to understand can I NZhiSDrs2D4-00174-00040481-00040643 talk to that customer and ask them to be NZhiSDrs2D4-00175-00040644-00040840 a reference oneself how much time are NZhiSDrs2D4-00176-00040841-00041036 you gonna take but this personalization NZhiSDrs2D4-00177-00041037-00041330 is becoming more and more critical as we NZhiSDrs2D4-00178-00041331-00041510 say this influence from the consumer NZhiSDrs2D4-00179-00041511-00041683 side with some of the things that you NZhiSDrs2D4-00180-00041684-00042023 heard today from Citrix what are your NZhiSDrs2D4-00181-00042024-00042280 thoughts on how they're going to be able NZhiSDrs2D4-00182-00042281-00042502 to improve that more personalized NZhiSDrs2D4-00183-00042503-00042767 employee experience so so people think NZhiSDrs2D4-00184-00042768-00043046 of personalization I think sometimes too NZhiSDrs2D4-00185-00043047-00043307 narrowly for some people personalization NZhiSDrs2D4-00186-00043308-00043499 is you know I'll get my phone out and I NZhiSDrs2D4-00187-00043500-00043699 have the apps that I want on my phone NZhiSDrs2D4-00188-00043700-00043927 and that's personalization I think of it NZhiSDrs2D4-00189-00043928-00044114 a little bit differently we need to NZhiSDrs2D4-00190-00044115-00044317 extend personalization when I'm at work NZhiSDrs2D4-00191-00044318-00044593 what I want is not just the apps I want NZhiSDrs2D4-00192-00044594-00044885 clearly I want those right but also the NZhiSDrs2D4-00193-00044886-00045124 ability to get help with those apps as I NZhiSDrs2D4-00194-00045125-00045337 need it right and so where Citrix is NZhiSDrs2D4-00195-00045338-00045614 going is trying to put intelligence into NZhiSDrs2D4-00196-00045615-00045827 the system so that when I'm interacting NZhiSDrs2D4-00197-00045828-00046085 with back-end solutions or my neighbors NZhiSDrs2D4-00198-00046086-00046379 or with teams collaboration I get the NZhiSDrs2D4-00199-00046380-00046570 assistance I need to make it easier for NZhiSDrs2D4-00200-00046571-00046799 me to do that work it's not just the NZhiSDrs2D4-00201-00046800-00047039 apps it's also helped with the apps and NZhiSDrs2D4-00202-00047040-00047276 if we can do that that's really what we NZhiSDrs2D4-00203-00047277-00047507 want we go you know if I have a problem NZhiSDrs2D4-00204-00047508-00047660 with my laptop I'm gonna come to you and NZhiSDrs2D4-00205-00047661-00047914 say hey you did this yesterday NZhiSDrs2D4-00206-00047915-00048046 what was the result can you help me for NZhiSDrs2D4-00207-00048047-00048170 five minutes five minutes it's never NZhiSDrs2D4-00208-00048171-00048346 five minutes it's usually an hour and a NZhiSDrs2D4-00209-00048347-00048574 half but still I'll come to you why NZhiSDrs2D4-00210-00048575-00048793 can't I have an app on my desk that does NZhiSDrs2D4-00211-00048794-00049018 the same thing I'm having trouble help NZhiSDrs2D4-00212-00049019-00049246 me fix it let me know what I'm doing NZhiSDrs2D4-00213-00049247-00049385 wrong or let me know how I can do it NZhiSDrs2D4-00214-00049386-00049540 better and that's where Citrix is trying NZhiSDrs2D4-00215-00049541-00049649 to go with the analytics that they've NZhiSDrs2D4-00216-00049650-00049918 got in place which is huge I think NZhiSDrs2D4-00217-00049919-00050057 they're under playing that because I NZhiSDrs2D4-00218-00050058-00050271 think that the the whole analytics space NZhiSDrs2D4-00219-00050272-00050624 in making things easier for people to NZhiSDrs2D4-00220-00050625-00050743 use because understanding where my NZhiSDrs2D4-00221-00050744-00050951 problems are is huge and that's gonna NZhiSDrs2D4-00222-00050952-00051310 pick up the the notion of having a nice NZhiSDrs2D4-00223-00051311-00051526 who's gonna say pretty-pretty might not NZhiSDrs2D4-00224-00051527-00051715 be the right word but but attractive at NZhiSDrs2D4-00225-00051716-00052042 least workspace for me to go in doesn't NZhiSDrs2D4-00226-00052044-00052235 get me frustrated frustration is a NZhiSDrs2D4-00227-00052236-00052379 killer and productivity as everyone NZhiSDrs2D4-00228-00052379-00052661 knows there are examples I've heard NZhiSDrs2D4-00229-00052662-00052819 multiple people tell me now that they go NZhiSDrs2D4-00230-00052820-00052951 out and hire especially with Millennials NZhiSDrs2D4-00231-00052952-00053111 to go out and hire twenty or thirty new NZhiSDrs2D4-00232-00053112-00053240 employees and have NZhiSDrs2D4-00233-00053241-00053378 them quit within a week because their NZhiSDrs2D4-00234-00053379-00053522 systems are so bad that they get so NZhiSDrs2D4-00235-00053523-00053680 frustrated or they're not gonna work NZhiSDrs2D4-00236-00053682-00054002 there so the notion of having a modern NZhiSDrs2D4-00237-00054003-00054203 workspace where I get the applications I NZhiSDrs2D4-00238-00054204-00054461 need I get the assistance I need because NZhiSDrs2D4-00239-00054462-00054671 of the analytics at the back end telling NZhiSDrs2D4-00240-00054672-00054953 the the system's what I need and making NZhiSDrs2D4-00241-00054954-00055157 it easier for me to do it and then NZhiSDrs2D4-00242-00055158-00055400 allowing me to be productive not just NZhiSDrs2D4-00243-00055401-00055571 for myself but for the organization is NZhiSDrs2D4-00244-00055572-00055739 where we all need to go and I said NZhiSDrs2D4-00245-00055740-00055937 Citrix is making some real progress NZhiSDrs2D4-00246-00055938-00056207 going that way so Jack we're talking NZhiSDrs2D4-00247-00056208-00056357 about products that have been quite NZhiSDrs2D4-00248-00056358-00056495 being released yet so I'm trying to get NZhiSDrs2D4-00249-00056496-00056905 a sense or Worth's the right bill versus NZhiSDrs2D4-00250-00056907-00057320 by stage it complexity citrus should be NZhiSDrs2D4-00251-00057321-00057515 you know I can make an apple pie by NZhiSDrs2D4-00252-00057516-00057872 going out and picking the Apple and and NZhiSDrs2D4-00253-00057873-00058279 making my own crust or I can go by NZhiSDrs2D4-00254-00058280-00058504 filling or I can just go by intamin NZhiSDrs2D4-00255-00058505-00058676 spine sticking in the oven warm it up NZhiSDrs2D4-00256-00058677-00059075 three very different experiences three NZhiSDrs2D4-00257-00059076-00059430 different layers of investment and NZhiSDrs2D4-00258-00059432-00059849 outcomes frankly in this world I can go NZhiSDrs2D4-00259-00059850-00060041 higher application developers to write NZhiSDrs2D4-00260-00060041-00060191 these mini apps to write these NZhiSDrs2D4-00261-00060191-00060449 customizations to might to write these NZhiSDrs2D4-00262-00060450-00060728 integrations but that's like I I think NZhiSDrs2D4-00263-00060729-00061028 that's akin to picking the Apple and and NZhiSDrs2D4-00264-00061029-00061339 that just simply doesn't scale but also NZhiSDrs2D4-00265-00061340-00061652 while enamines pie is okay every now and NZhiSDrs2D4-00266-00061653-00061946 again I want you know somehow follow tea NZhiSDrs2D4-00267-00061947-00062225 where do you think Citrix is on the kind NZhiSDrs2D4-00268-00062226-00062441 of range of bill versus vibe with this NZhiSDrs2D4-00269-00062441-00062735 intelligent experience so so build NZhiSDrs2D4-00270-00062736-00062870 versus buy is a very interesting NZhiSDrs2D4-00271-00062871-00063086 phenomenon and it's interesting because NZhiSDrs2D4-00272-00063087-00063344 it a lot of it has to do with where you NZhiSDrs2D4-00273-00063345-00063563 think you are right now in the world NZhiSDrs2D4-00274-00063564-00063803 right you know you mentioned going out NZhiSDrs2D4-00275-00063804-00063935 getting developers and building your own NZhiSDrs2D4-00276-00063936-00064058 that's all well and good it doesn't NZhiSDrs2D4-00277-00064059-00064220 scale and by the way in today's market NZhiSDrs2D4-00278-00064221-00064373 you can't find them to begin with so you NZhiSDrs2D4-00279-00064374-00064604 know often don't even have a choice so NZhiSDrs2D4-00280-00064604-00064802 that's number one number two is that NZhiSDrs2D4-00281-00064803-00064991 there are companies out there that still NZhiSDrs2D4-00282-00064991-00065213 think for competitive advantage they NZhiSDrs2D4-00283-00065214-00065387 have to do everything from scratch like NZhiSDrs2D4-00284-00065388-00065606 building your PI yes you probably make NZhiSDrs2D4-00285-00065607-00065795 the best pie in the world but guess what NZhiSDrs2D4-00286-00065796-00065966 sometimes a good enough pie is good NZhiSDrs2D4-00287-00065967-00066179 enough right and if you're in business NZhiSDrs2D4-00288-00066180-00066347 sometimes good enough is the only way NZhiSDrs2D4-00289-00066348-00066584 you survive it doesn't have to be 100 NZhiSDrs2D4-00290-00066585-00066791 and perfect 90 percents okay - and NZhiSDrs2D4-00291-00066792-00066974 people can deal with that so that's the NZhiSDrs2D4-00292-00066975-00067156 other piece the third piece of it is NZhiSDrs2D4-00293-00067157-00067375 from an end-user perspective right NZhiSDrs2D4-00294-00067376-00067709 if end-users are accustomed to having an NZhiSDrs2D4-00295-00067710-00067892 interaction in a certain way and then NZhiSDrs2D4-00296-00067893-00068074 you go out and get developers that come NZhiSDrs2D4-00297-00068075-00068141 in and do it something completely NZhiSDrs2D4-00298-00068142-00068275 different which they're apt to do NZhiSDrs2D4-00299-00068276-00068423 because each will have their own kind of NZhiSDrs2D4-00300-00068424-00068711 flavor to it then you just force them to NZhiSDrs2D4-00301-00068712-00068899 learn one two three four or five NZhiSDrs2D4-00302-00068900-00069197 different interface interactions I'm not NZhiSDrs2D4-00303-00069198-00069392 gonna do that I'm gonna get frustrated NZhiSDrs2D4-00304-00069393-00069574 as heck and I'm gonna go call the help NZhiSDrs2D4-00305-00069575-00069740 desk or I'm gonna go get my admins they NZhiSDrs2D4-00306-00069741-00069923 do this for me both of which are NZhiSDrs2D4-00307-00069924-00070099 counterproductive to the company and to NZhiSDrs2D4-00308-00070100-00070541 me so I it really depends on where you NZhiSDrs2D4-00309-00070542-00070796 are in the stage of where your company NZhiSDrs2D4-00310-00070797-00071056 is I would say build versus buy it's not NZhiSDrs2D4-00311-00071057-00071324 it's not a 1 or a 0 there's lots of NZhiSDrs2D4-00312-00071325-00071573 shades of grey in between it's also not NZhiSDrs2D4-00313-00071574-00071903 all or nothing so some applications NZhiSDrs2D4-00314-00071904-00072187 might be built internally some you may NZhiSDrs2D4-00315-00072188-00072469 want to buy externally some you may have NZhiSDrs2D4-00316-00072470-00072674 a hybrid and and the nice thing about NZhiSDrs2D4-00317-00072675-00072968 the where workspaces are going now is NZhiSDrs2D4-00318-00072969-00073160 that you can plug all of those into the NZhiSDrs2D4-00319-00073161-00073351 same environment that's really the NZhiSDrs2D4-00320-00073352-00073669 ultimate goal is to make it as easy and NZhiSDrs2D4-00321-00073670-00073967 transparent for the organization as NZhiSDrs2D4-00322-00073968-00074117 possible and also for the user because NZhiSDrs2D4-00323-00074118-00074354 the user ultimately is the end consumer NZhiSDrs2D4-00324-00074355-00074563 and if it's not good for the end NZhiSDrs2D4-00325-00074564-00074690 consumer it's not good for the company NZhiSDrs2D4-00326-00074691-00074762 either NZhiSDrs2D4-00327-00074763-00075088 so delivering this great game-changing NZhiSDrs2D4-00328-00075089-00075380 customer experience for this as we NZhiSDrs2D4-00329-00075381-00075560 talked about for this distributed modern NZhiSDrs2D4-00330-00075561-00075728 workforce that wants to be able to NZhiSDrs2D4-00331-00075729-00076061 access mobile apps SAS apps web apps NZhiSDrs2D4-00332-00076062-00076565 from tablet PC phone desktop your car NZhiSDrs2D4-00333-00076566-00076732 your refrigerator anything with the NZhiSDrs2D4-00334-00076733-00076984 screen refrigerators wherever you are NZhiSDrs2D4-00335-00076985-00077317 but I think ok people sure we're people NZhiSDrs2D4-00336-00077318-00077551 and we are the biggest single security NZhiSDrs2D4-00337-00077552-00077816 threat there is so in your perspective NZhiSDrs2D4-00338-00077817-00078022 how is what Citrix is talking about NZhiSDrs2D4-00339-00078023-00078422 balancing security as an essential NZhiSDrs2D4-00340-00078423-00078647 component of this employee experience so NZhiSDrs2D4-00341-00078648-00079018 there are few things number one is a lot NZhiSDrs2D4-00342-00079019-00079180 of companies think that if they limit NZhiSDrs2D4-00343-00079181-00079340 the end-user experience they're more NZhiSDrs2D4-00344-00079341-00079600 secure the truth of the matter is yes I NZhiSDrs2D4-00345-00079601-00079748 mean if you if you don't let me get into NZhiSDrs2D4-00346-00079749-00079970 an app I can't steal application NZhiSDrs2D4-00347-00079971-00080201 you know information or lose it somehow NZhiSDrs2D4-00348-00080202-00080414 but I also can't get my work done so NZhiSDrs2D4-00349-00080415-00080615 there's a balance between security and NZhiSDrs2D4-00350-00080616-00080816 privacy which many companies don't talk NZhiSDrs2D4-00351-00080817-00080963 about which is not exactly the same NZhiSDrs2D4-00352-00080964-00081197 thing there are two unique things more NZhiSDrs2D4-00353-00081198-00081389 and more privacy is becoming as big or NZhiSDrs2D4-00354-00081390-00081614 bigger an issue than security but we you NZhiSDrs2D4-00355-00081615-00081781 know we can get that out in a minute but NZhiSDrs2D4-00356-00081782-00082175 the notion of security really relates to NZhiSDrs2D4-00357-00082176-00082310 what I was talking about earlier which NZhiSDrs2D4-00358-00082311-00082565 is analytics if I know what you're NZhiSDrs2D4-00359-00082566-00082910 supposed to be doing you're here at NZhiSDrs2D4-00360-00082911-00083225 Cynergy if someone just got your NZhiSDrs2D4-00361-00083226-00083471 credentials and logged in from Los NZhiSDrs2D4-00362-00083472-00083660 Angeles or New York or Chicago or Denver NZhiSDrs2D4-00363-00083661-00084029 or wherever I know it's not you I can NZhiSDrs2D4-00364-00084030-00084239 shut that thing down very quickly and NZhiSDrs2D4-00365-00084240-00084368 not have to worry about them stealing NZhiSDrs2D4-00366-00084369-00084614 information also if your if I know NZhiSDrs2D4-00367-00084615-00084890 you're not supposed to be in a certain NZhiSDrs2D4-00368-00084891-00085067 version of sa P you're not supposed to NZhiSDrs2D4-00369-00085068-00085328 be doing some ERP system and and you're NZhiSDrs2D4-00370-00085329-00085592 in it then again the analytics tells me NZhiSDrs2D4-00371-00085593-00085739 that there's something going on there's NZhiSDrs2D4-00372-00085740-00085994 something anomalous going on that I need NZhiSDrs2D4-00373-00085995-00086469 to investigate so having a system that NZhiSDrs2D4-00374-00086470-00086759 protects because there's a kind of a NZhiSDrs2D4-00375-00086760-00086885 front end to everything that's going on NZhiSDrs2D4-00376-00086886-00087086 in the backend and a realization of NZhiSDrs2D4-00377-00087087-00087317 what's going on behind that screen gives NZhiSDrs2D4-00378-00087318-00087563 me a much higher sense of security from NZhiSDrs2D4-00379-00087564-00087826 a corporate perspective it's not perfect NZhiSDrs2D4-00380-00087827-00087953 there is no such thing as perfect NZhiSDrs2D4-00381-00087954-00088094 security but it's a lot better than just NZhiSDrs2D4-00382-00088095-00088310 letting us kind of do our own thing and NZhiSDrs2D4-00383-00088311-00088505 put your loading semantics or McAfee or NZhiSDrs2D4-00384-00088506-00088736 whatever on your PC and that's where NZhiSDrs2D4-00385-00088737-00088928 we're all the in the industry autumn NZhiSDrs2D4-00386-00088929-00089078 Utley has to go that becomes part of the NZhiSDrs2D4-00387-00089079-00089279 of the new modern workspace it's not NZhiSDrs2D4-00388-00089280-00089480 just about more productive it's about NZhiSDrs2D4-00389-00089481-00089696 more secure it's about more private it's NZhiSDrs2D4-00390-00089697-00089894 about not letting information escape NZhiSDrs2D4-00391-00089895-00090094 that shouldn't be there to begin with NZhiSDrs2D4-00392-00090095-00090503 so less question on data gravity because NZhiSDrs2D4-00393-00090504-00090659 we haven't talked about data and data is NZhiSDrs2D4-00394-00090660-00090839 you know probably the most important NZhiSDrs2D4-00395-00090840-00091076 thing in this topic the importance of NZhiSDrs2D4-00396-00091077-00091346 the azure and Google announcement you NZhiSDrs2D4-00397-00091347-00091616 know we the Yoda byte and first time NZhiSDrs2D4-00398-00091617-00091823 I've heard that term Yoda byte of data NZhiSDrs2D4-00399-00091824-00092021 and that data is gonna be spread across NZhiSDrs2D4-00400-00092022-00092396 the world and this this idea of NZhiSDrs2D4-00401-00092397-00092634 centralized compute and NZhiSDrs2D4-00402-00092635-00092850 and us being able to present compute NZhiSDrs2D4-00403-00092851-00093048 into a data center is no longer gonna NZhiSDrs2D4-00404-00093049-00093285 work that we're not the applications are NZhiSDrs2D4-00405-00093286-00093464 going to be spread all across the world NZhiSDrs2D4-00406-00093465-00094011 whether you see Citrix in advancing that NZhiSDrs2D4-00407-00094012-00094299 discipline of providing apps where they NZhiSDrs2D4-00408-00094300-00094494 need to be with these relationships so NZhiSDrs2D4-00409-00094495-00094629 it's an interesting phenomenon what NZhiSDrs2D4-00410-00094630-00094740 we're going through right now if you NZhiSDrs2D4-00411-00094741-00094893 look back a couple of decades ago NZhiSDrs2D4-00412-00094894-00095085 everything was centralized people were NZhiSDrs2D4-00413-00095086-00095214 centralized they all work in one NZhiSDrs2D4-00414-00095215-00095457 building computing was centralized it NZhiSDrs2D4-00415-00095458-00095601 was all in the data center IT was NZhiSDrs2D4-00416-00095602-00095763 centralized it was all you know working NZhiSDrs2D4-00417-00095764-00096189 around the the servers the cloud is the NZhiSDrs2D4-00418-00096190-00096300 opposite direction although I would NZhiSDrs2D4-00419-00096301-00096537 argue that the cloud is that new cloud NZhiSDrs2D4-00420-00096538-00096663 is just I'm sure in a different NZhiSDrs2D4-00421-00096664-00096903 environment for us old people who NZhiSDrs2D4-00422-00096904-00097106 remember the old IBM timeshare computers NZhiSDrs2D4-00423-00097107-00097353 but everything is becoming distributed NZhiSDrs2D4-00424-00097354-00097536 data is distributed people are NZhiSDrs2D4-00425-00097537-00097746 distributed applications to distributed NZhiSDrs2D4-00426-00097747-00098064 networks are distributed you name it the NZhiSDrs2D4-00427-00098065-00098340 the key critical factor for companies NZhiSDrs2D4-00428-00098341-00098616 and keeping them productivity or keeping NZhiSDrs2D4-00429-00098617-00098793 up the productivity is to make sure that NZhiSDrs2D4-00430-00098794-00099075 the that distributed environment doesn't NZhiSDrs2D4-00431-00099076-00099279 get in the way of doing work so you've NZhiSDrs2D4-00432-00099280-00099465 got things like latency if it takes me NZhiSDrs2D4-00433-00099466-00099768 if I'm in we're having a party behind it NZhiSDrs2D4-00434-00099769-00100179 they agree with you you know if I'm here NZhiSDrs2D4-00435-00100180-00100341 at Cynergy but I have to work back am I NZhiSDrs2D4-00436-00100342-00100503 my office is near Boston NZhiSDrs2D4-00437-00100504-00100659 I can't wait five minutes for NZhiSDrs2D4-00438-00100660-00100782 information to come back and forth it NZhiSDrs2D4-00439-00100783-00100938 was like the old days NZhiSDrs2D4-00440-00100939-00101181 latency now has to be within 5 NZhiSDrs2D4-00441-00101182-00101436 microseconds or people get frustrated so NZhiSDrs2D4-00442-00101437-00101621 that becomes a network issue NZhiSDrs2D4-00443-00101622-00101838 applications same way if I have to go to NZhiSDrs2D4-00444-00101839-00102045 a data center the data isn't local to my NZhiSDrs2D4-00445-00102046-00102399 server here it has to go to London I'm NZhiSDrs2D4-00446-00102400-00102536 not gonna wait three minutes for it to NZhiSDrs2D4-00447-00102538-00102696 come back like we used to or 10 minutes NZhiSDrs2D4-00448-00102697-00102891 or an hour and a half or come back the NZhiSDrs2D4-00449-00102892-00103071 next morning you know you you want a NZhiSDrs2D4-00450-00103072-00103248 book of a flight on an airline are you NZhiSDrs2D4-00451-00103249-00103418 gonna wait 30 minutes for them to find NZhiSDrs2D4-00452-00103419-00103532 you a seat you're gonna go to another NZhiSDrs2D4-00453-00103533-00103736 airline so the whole notion of NZhiSDrs2D4-00454-00103738-00103934 distributed means that it's very NZhiSDrs2D4-00455-00103935-00104057 different now even though it's NZhiSDrs2D4-00456-00104058-00104304 distributed everything is local and by NZhiSDrs2D4-00457-00104305-00104565 local keeping it local it means that you NZhiSDrs2D4-00458-00104566-00104711 have to have latency below a certain NZhiSDrs2D4-00459-00104713-00104979 points so that I don't realize that it's NZhiSDrs2D4-00460-00104980-00105120 distributed or I don't care that that NZhiSDrs2D4-00461-00105121-00105294 it's distributed yota bytes of data NZhiSDrs2D4-00462-00105295-00105492 means that we're gonna have data NZhiSDrs2D4-00463-00105493-00105758 everywhere accessible all the time and NZhiSDrs2D4-00464-00105759-00105933 we're going to produce data like NZhiSDrs2D4-00465-00105933-00106233 crazy you know a typical car autonomous NZhiSDrs2D4-00466-00106233-00106409 car will produce a gigabyte of data NZhiSDrs2D4-00467-00106410-00106529 every minute NZhiSDrs2D4-00468-00106530-00106886 hundreds of every you know hour so the NZhiSDrs2D4-00469-00106888-00107043 amount of data is going to be fantastic NZhiSDrs2D4-00470-00107044-00107220 that we have to deal with then the big NZhiSDrs2D4-00471-00107221-00107376 question becomes okay so I can't NZhiSDrs2D4-00472-00107377-00107532 personally deal with all this data it's NZhiSDrs2D4-00473-00107533-00107733 impossible I have to have the assistance NZhiSDrs2D4-00474-00107733-00107979 the intelligence within the system to go NZhiSDrs2D4-00475-00107980-00108150 off and make something of their data so NZhiSDrs2D4-00476-00108151-00108276 that I can actually interact with it NZhiSDrs2D4-00477-00108277-00108432 meaningful in a meaningful fashion NZhiSDrs2D4-00478-00108433-00108627 that's where Citrix would like to go NZhiSDrs2D4-00479-00108628-00108756 that's what others like to go they can't NZhiSDrs2D4-00480-00108757-00108969 do it alone because the problem is just NZhiSDrs2D4-00481-00108970-00109350 too darn big but it we will get there NZhiSDrs2D4-00482-00109351-00109608 companies will get there eventually not NZhiSDrs2D4-00483-00109608-00109821 all of them perhaps the only the ones NZhiSDrs2D4-00484-00109822-00109923 that are going to be successful long NZhiSDrs2D4-00485-00109924-00110127 term are going to get there well Jack I NZhiSDrs2D4-00486-00110128-00110289 wish we had more time to chat with you NZhiSDrs2D4-00487-00110290-00110483 this is I just feel like going dot dot NZhiSDrs2D4-00488-00110484-00110703 to be continued and I want to say NZhiSDrs2D4-00489-00110704-00110883 coincidence I don't know there were two NZhiSDrs2D4-00490-00110883-00110994 rounds of applause when you talked about NZhiSDrs2D4-00491-00110995-00111330 latency we're just waiting for the bar NZhiSDrs2D4-00492-00111331-00111528 to open it's taking too long you think NZhiSDrs2D4-00493-00111529-00111654 that's what it is probably all right NZhiSDrs2D4-00494-00111655-00111801 well we'll get you over there thank you NZhiSDrs2D4-00495-00111802-00111930 again for joining key to me this NZhiSDrs2D4-00496-00111931-00111972 afternoon NZhiSDrs2D4-00497-00111973-00112211 thank you very much our pleasure for NZhiSDrs2D4-00498-00112213-00112380 Keith Townsend I'm Lisa Martin you're NZhiSDrs2D4-00499-00112381-00112563 watching the cube live from Citrix NZhiSDrs2D4-00500-00112564-00113371 energy 2019 thanks for watching NZhiSDrs2D4-00501-00113372-00113677 [Music]