cjiiBFlW1Ik-00000-00001090-00001350 it's been Christina said I'm Scott why
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00001-00001351-00001782 I'm from safe regency take a delay my
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00002-00001784-00001987 major role there is sub lecturer
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00003-00001988-00002206 predominately for the court envelope I'm
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00004-00002207-00002440 also doing some project work for tater
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00005-00002441-00002751 stay as well and loves us to become
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00006-00002752-00003049 involved in this trial with mobile video
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00007-00003050-00003390 assessment and our project partner is
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00008-00003392-00003625 right cooking we are if you know there
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00009-00003626-00003931 we talk more about the technical side of
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00010-00003932-00004117 things like they've been up about the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00011-00004118-00004435 trial outcomes from my perspective as an
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00012-00004436-00004687 educator and we want the student
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00013-00004688-00004849 basically what the student center so my
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00014-00004850-00005089 colleagues thought about this mobile
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00015-00005090-00005467 video assessment alright so the aim of
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00016-00005468-00005847 the trial was to get six units involved
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00017-00005848-00006349 to use this mobile app and basically
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00018-00006350-00006564 compare their experience using this app
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00019-00006565-00006831 to traditional assessment methods that
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00020-00006832-00007089 was there that was what we did what it
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00021-00007090-00007837 is now done so in total I had 47
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00022-00007838-00008145 students involved in the trial and am
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00023-00008147-00008326 open to assess the suitability of the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00024-00008327-00008701 app to identify if they if they thought
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00025-00008702-00008842 of provided that a quality learning
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00026-00008843-00009052 experience if there any barriers to
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00027-00009053-00009244 completing the assessment and we had
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00028-00009245-00009391 some really interesting results from
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00029-00009392-00009631 this because that took us a bit by
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00030-00009632-00009835 surprise because all of my students that
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00031-00009836-00010105 I teach are basically millennial
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00032-00010106-00010378 generation and I just assumed that they
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00033-00010379-00010564 would embrace this technology
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00034-00010565-00010824 totally at one with it but they weren't
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00035-00010825-00011032 so I didn't have to do a little bit
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00036-00011033-00011223 digging around to find out what the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00037-00011224-00011491 resistance was talking a bit more about
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00038-00011492-00011869 there being so the active they were
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00039-00011870-00012199 using the point of difference with it is
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00040-00012200-00012433 that it's got an introduction screen
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00041-00012434-00012610 which hopefully down the track will
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00042-00012611-00012844 become an idol I swear English leo once
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00043-00012844-00013078 again we'll talk bit more about the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00044-00013079-00013306 lecturer can use to send instructions or
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00045-00013307-00013531 in marking criteria for any messages or
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00046-00013532-00013699 information to the student before they
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00047-00013700-00013891 actually get involved in Boca medium the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00048-00013891-00014161 villa well it's complete a student
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00049-00014162-00014356 concerns video director Moodle site
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00050-00014357-00014533 where the lecturer could then get into
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00051-00014534-00014899 the side marker give feedback and
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00052-00014900-00015040 subscribe or whatever they're sitting
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00053-00015041-00015181 there for the student to get in to find
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00054-00015182-00015454 out what the results are so happy for a
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00055-00015455-00015610 simple and seamless process that's
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00056-00015611-00015769 exactly what we have run we're looking
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00057-00015769-00016174 at and looking for when I started at the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00058-00016175-00016411 the trial very early on in the trial we
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00059-00016412-00016666 identify quite a major problem that was
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00060-00016667-00016837 that the videos would not upload to
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00061-00016838-00017044 Moodle which is obviously a bit of a
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00062-00017045-00017317 problem if there were any longer than
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00063-00017318-00017527 around a minute which frustrated the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00064-00017528-00017905 stupid someone because they needed at
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00065-00017906-00018172 least ten minutes worth of recording
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00066-00018173-00018369 time to actually be able to do any
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00067-00018370-00018538 self-assessment let me set for them so
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00068-00018539-00018811 as I said it wasn't ideal outcome so
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00069-00018812-00019024 early on in the trial however we went on
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00070-00019025-00019321 to try and fix this problem and we found
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00071-00019322-00019684 another court video cinema which we
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00072-00019685-00019894 loaded option the devices they were
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00073-00019895-00020155 using to try and overcome the problem it
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00074-00020156-00020472 did to a point and it allowed us to or
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00075-00020473-00020632 allows us to upload videos that are
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00076-00020633-00020956 about five minutes in length maximum but
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00077-00020957-00021109 still once you've done that once you've
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00078-00021110-00021271 slimmed it down once you set it up to
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00079-00021272-00021457 Moodle it's still I feel stood takes too
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00080-00021458-00021669 long and the students can hear bit
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00081-00021670-00021834 impatient and sort of
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00082-00021835-00021999 because it's taking more than a couple
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00083-00022000-00022191 of minutes to actually help load to
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00084-00022192-00022782 Moodle so that's an ongoing problem the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00085-00022783-00023211 other side of it was my colleagues the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00086-00023212-00023433 more they could see me doing stuff with
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00087-00023434-00023661 this this trial they become more and
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00088-00023662-00023877 more interested and it was very evident
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00089-00023878-00024195 that everybody around them was very keen
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00090-00024196-00024624 to have this act working well because it
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00091-00024625-00024744 was something that everybody said they
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00092-00024745-00025125 could actually use the current process
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00093-00025126-00025302 that we are all using for video system
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00094-00025303-00025470 is not very efficient and I tend to end
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00095-00025471-00025650 up at the moment I've got 30 subject
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00096-00025651-00025995 students with a video assessment jus in
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00097-00025995-00026214 the next couple of weeks and I tend to
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00098-00026214-00026463 get us these suits may certainly far as
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00099-00026464-00026693 I can open and it gets very very messy
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00100-00026694-00027066 and this working properly this would fix
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00101-00027067-00027198 all of that because it's a seamless
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00102-00027199-00027414 process instead of anything like all
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00103-00027414-00027527 these things on your desk and then
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00104-00027529-00027687 having to contact students because what
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00105-00027688-00027843 you've got doesn't work when you've
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00106-00027844-00027957 marked it then you've got to get it back
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00107-00027958-00028220 to them and if they bring the devices in
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00108-00028222-00028323 then you've got to make sure that
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00109-00028324-00028500 they're not so that its recorded that
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00110-00028501-00028632 they've been trough being and widgets or
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00111-00028633-00028968 stuff so with all of that in mind the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00112-00028969-00029106 app is actually something we really
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00113-00029107-00029376 really do need especially from our side
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00114-00029377-00029558 of the lake no survivors world the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00115-00029560-00029916 students stockings along excellently the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00116-00029917-00030255 students the feedback was that they feel
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00117-00030256-00030597 also that it's a mid April I'm so once
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00118-00030598-00030816 you set up to Moodle they knew that that
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00119-00030817-00030975 assessment was in instead of leaving a
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00120-00030976-00031167 USB stick to the new clean Australia or
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00121-00031168-00031362 somebody or living it on your desk
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00122-00031363-00031557 instead uncertainty so this way it was
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00123-00031558-00031830 actually done but see if there is logged
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00124-00031831-00031964 he was waiting for you to mark and the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00125-00031966-00032101 value exactly where you're going to
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00126-00032102-00032649 themselves as the 47 students 34
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00127-00032650-00032880 definitely would use the app that's a
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00128-00032881-00033180 great idea 12 we definitely not use the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00129-00033181-00033615 app and one may use the app we had some
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00130-00033616-00033964 interesting feedback out of the 34
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00131-00033965-00034264 students a lot of those didn't like
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00132-00034265-00034521 being in front of the camera and after
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00133-00034522-00034746 that was really quite incredible being
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00134-00034747-00034962 the generation they are but they don't
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00135-00034963-00035080 they're not confident in front of the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00136-00035081-00035398 camera they're very confident behind the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00137-00035399-00035632 camera so if they're driving it they're
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00138-00035633-00035785 happy if they're actually in front of it
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00139-00035786-00036124 doing something themselves they're not a
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00140-00036125-00036262 lot of them said they don't quite seen
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00141-00036263-00036364 themselves I don't like hearing
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00142-00036365-00036607 themselves so it that to me was
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00143-00036608-00036742 something as bit of an eye-opener for me
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00144-00036743-00036961 especially with millennial generation or
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00145-00036962-00037080 thought were really comfortable and
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00146-00037081-00037351 confident with all this sort of stuff it
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00147-00037352-00037620 made me think as an educator okay they
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00148-00037621-00037783 have been using the technology they want
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00149-00037784-00037951 the technology to work properly another
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00150-00037952-00038430 one they are impatient and secondly it
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00151-00038431-00038626 made me think that we've got to continue
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00152-00038627-00038851 looking at needs individual needs of
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00153-00038852-00039139 assessments and students because not you
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00154-00039140-00039274 know we can't assume that everybody is
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00155-00039275-00039385 going to feel comfortable doing a
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00156-00039386-00039552 particular type of assessment especially
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00157-00039553-00039726 women talking about technology like this
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00158-00039727-00039907 so there's a couple of things that came
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00159-00039908-00040089 out of it which were interesting as a
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00160-00040090-00040362 semi-naked educator having said all of
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00161-00040363-00040602 that the outcome I thought was pretty
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00162-00040603-00040920 good that we've got the majority of the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00163-00040921-00041170 the trial group are saying yes don't
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00164-00041171-00041479 like to use it and basically under
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00165-00041480-00041512 percent
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00166-00041513-00041686 lectures I work with said here so much
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00167-00041687-00041882 is it what we've got to do is find a way
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00168-00041883-00042346 that the compression of it can be worked
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00169-00042347-00042551 in such a way that it can be maybe yep
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00170-00042552-00042721 and there could be something that will
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00171-00042722-00042986 go straight into Moodle in timely manner
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00172-00042987-00043310 so I let Leo now take over and distort
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00173-00043311-00043598 that the technical side of it yeah as
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00174-00043599-00043798 God said a little bit the technical side
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00175-00043799-00043930 up I want to go too deep into the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00176-00043931-00044045 technical side of things I'm not sure
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00177-00044046-00044192 about the audience here but just to give
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00178-00044193-00044592 you a brief overview on what the app
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00179-00044593-00044989 needs to function and also some of the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00180-00044990-00045142 technical problems that we found in
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00181-00045143-00045554 Portugal answers for it the app consists
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00182-00045555-00045736 of to compose are the the assessment
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00183-00045737-00046030 tool a system two components one is a
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00184-00046031-00046270 google assessment plugin so it's just a
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00185-00046271-00046464 standard assessment tomorrow in Moodle
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00186-00046465-00046837 like you have at the moment the online
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00187-00046838-00047105 text the way you have a assignment
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00188-00047106-00047323 function to upload documents you now
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00189-00047324-00047573 have the ability to upload mobile videos
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00190-00047574-00047911 as another some and time the assignment
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00191-00047912-00048164 the assignment plug inning is available
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00192-00048165-00048395 i git repository the links are all the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00193-00048396-00048661 air if you've seen at the beginning of
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00194-00048662-00048839 the slides there is also linked to the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00195-00048840-00049073 actual slide so anybody that wants to
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00196-00049074-00049273 download the slides will be available
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00197-00049274-00049499 I'm going to connect with other
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00198-00049500-00049799 afterwards and the second component is
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00199-00049800-00049967 obviously the app itself the mobile app
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00200-00049968-00050267 at the moment it's available for google
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00201-00050268-00050638 android via the google play store that
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00202-00050639-00050890 link up there is a workable linking to
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00203-00050891-00051161 the into the google app store and buy
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00204-00051162-00051517 the itunes app store as well so they are
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00205-00051519-00051691 the two working versions there they are
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00206-00051692-00052108 ready for download now there is some
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00207-00052109-00052282 interest of possible making that
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00208-00052283-00052550 available for Windows Phone once people
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00209-00052551-00052709 are actually using it so far we haven't
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00210-00052710-00052887 actually have many students using
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00211-00052888-00053184 a few lecture lesser that we found using
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00212-00053185-00053448 Windows Phone at this stage it's been
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00213-00053449-00053826 released already as I said and we're
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00214-00053827-00054207 hoping to work on a future release at
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00215-00054208-00054408 some stage that fixing some of the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00216-00054409-00054690 outcomes that are some of the problems
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00217-00054691-00054929 that Scott was mentioning not just the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00218-00054930-00055137 workflow here unfortunately a lot of
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00219-00055138-00055517 information fitting into that screen the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00220-00055519-00055734 green bits are on the Moodle solid
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00221-00055735-00055962 things or a teacher it adds a new
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00222-00055963-00056220 assessment in Moodle of the type mobile
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00223-00056221-00056433 assessment mobile video assessment and
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00224-00056434-00056673 as this has been criteria now that
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00225-00056674-00056891 assessment criteria is then displayed in
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00226-00056892-00057123 the amp to the student which is what
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00227-00057124-00057363 does God mentioned before so that can
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00228-00057364-00057554 clean some tips to the students in terms
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00229-00057555-00057726 of what's there to dance through the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00230-00057727-00058047 answering and what is required of them
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00231-00058048-00058362 in the video we are hoping in future to
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00232-00058363-00058644 make this a multi-step process and paper
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00233-00058645-00058800 and all the way so that the while the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00234-00058801-00059112 filming multiple teams could be popping
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00235-00059113-00059388 up but at this stage it's an
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00236-00059389-00059673 introduction before they start to a
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00237-00059674-00059913 record they have to step through and
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00238-00059914-00060570 read through the vm with one like Scott
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00239-00060571-00060738 said the major problems that we were
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00240-00060739-00060996 having are due to science unfortunately
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00241-00060997-00061292 most of the devices these days and the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00242-00061294-00061449 devices to take us they were using for
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00243-00061450-00061797 the error trial were mainly iPads and
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00244-00061798-00062271 iPhones unfortunately iPad can only
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00245-00062272-00062510 recording HD quality video
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00246-00062511-00062690 you can't even change the frame rate or
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00247-00062691-00063057 anything so a minute video is actually
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00248-00063058-00063590 250 megabytes upwards so unfortunately a
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00249-00063591-00063931 lot of the bank with within the title
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00250-00063932-00064186 Institute and also the other end
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00251-00064187-00064669 slowness has caused a lot of problems in
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00252-00064670-00064859 terms of formats all the other issues
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00253-00064860-00065113 that are related to general with your
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00254-00065114-00065372 issues or call it won't go into that day
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00255-00065373-00065606 rather than the last one I mean one
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00256-00065607-00065837 thing that we not be able to fix is the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00257-00065838-00066065 bandwidth issue so we're hoping that at
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00258-00066066-00066242 some stage we actually get an NBN that
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00259-00066243-00066443 somebody can plug in at least in South
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00260-00066444-00066650 Australia at the moment it's a vapor
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00261-00066651-00066848 vaporware much will help victorious
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00262-00066849-00067051 bearing on that front I probably know
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00263-00067052-00067535 much different again what we're thinking
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00264-00067536-00067990 with a demo but unfortunately we are not
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00265-00067991-00068360 we're not able to show the tablet on the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00266-00068361-00068648 screen at the moment what I just will do
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00267-00068649-00068873 quick please give you an idea of the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00268-00068874-00069307 mobile app as it stands now that might
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00269-00069308-00069548 not be very very good busy lipid I'm
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00270-00069549-00069821 happy to be out here afterwards and you
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00271-00069822-00070085 can all download the app the trial URL
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00272-00070086-00070292 you can set yourself up an account there
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00273-00070293-00070541 and we you can actually have apply
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00274-00070542-00070906 yourself what if you have a Moodle site
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00275-00070907-00071117 yourself you can download the plug-in
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00276-00071118-00071262 and install it on your
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00277-00071263-00071565 sighs but this is basically the first
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00278-00071566-00071760 screen that gives the students all the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00279-00071761-00071922 assessment so it's more based on one
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00280-00071923-00072282 assessment multiple teachers or
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00281-00072283-00072596 lecturers could actually use the mobile
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00282-00072597-00072822 plugin and all of the ones that are
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00283-00072823-00072975 current for that student will be shown
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00284-00072976-00073170 they can choose the course that they're
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00285-00073171-00073416 interested in it will give them any
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00286-00073417-00073680 assignments that they've already used
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00287-00073681-00073974 and the red ones are the ones of all
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00288-00073975-00074199 rested minute the gray ones are the ones
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00289-00074200-00074543 that are submitted or they can then
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00290-00074544-00074931 click on submit the assignment and then
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00291-00074932-00075297 actually either use a video that they've
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00292-00075298-00075636 recorded previously into the gallery
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00293-00075637-00076086 video gallery and worry they can record
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00294-00076087-00076323 it live what we're recommending as an
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00295-00076324-00076587 outcome of the trials is obviously at
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00296-00076588-00076782 this stage that they report them with
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00297-00076783-00076956 the standard video functionality and
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00298-00076957-00077211 then pump them through a video
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00299-00077212-00077508 compression tool escort mentioned that's
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00300-00077509-00077688 probably the thing that we would love to
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00301-00077689-00077982 do as soon as possible after this and
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00302-00077983-00078216 actually integrate the video compression
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00303-00078217-00078552 into a market itself so students can
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00304-00078553-00078942 record the video and the app itself will
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00305-00078943-00079200 do the compression upwards now the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00306-00079201-00079475 compression apps that we've using our
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00307-00079476-00079836 compressing down to about ten percent of
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00308-00079837-00080097 the actual size without losing a lot of
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00309-00080098-00080358 quality for web delivery obviously they
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00310-00080359-00080541 are not going to be HD quality videos
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00311-00080542-00080730 anymore and angular 1 have been the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00312-00080731-00081003 moment new ratings but I don't think
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00313-00081004-00081102 intention
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00314-00081103-00081486 to do that so but hopefully we'll be
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00315-00081487-00081825 able to to been integrate that process
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00316-00081826-00082269 into the app itself that's just I left a
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00317-00082270-00082626 couple of useful tools in there and the
cjiiBFlW1Ik-00318-00082627-00082977 rest is just a contact details
cjoacBJP9uA-00000-00000032-00000686 [Music]
cjoacBJP9uA-00001-00000687-00000975 today many women
cjoacBJP9uA-00002-00000976-00001254 in our modern society are stepping out
cjoacBJP9uA-00003-00001255-00001558 and having a career
cjoacBJP9uA-00004-00001559-00001775 and i just like to know what do you
cjoacBJP9uA-00005-00001776-00002047 think of this of women stepping out
cjoacBJP9uA-00006-00002048-00002255 being career people managing home as
cjoacBJP9uA-00007-00002256-00002367 well
cjoacBJP9uA-00008-00002368-00002623 being financially independent
cjoacBJP9uA-00009-00002624-00002815 is this good
cjoacBJP9uA-00011-00025008-00026574 foreign
cjoacBJP9uA-00012-00026575-00027207 be
cjoacBJP9uA-00013-00027208-00027526 hmm
cjoacBJP9uA-00014-00027527-00028442 [Music]
cjrtHMjE-wu-00000-00000035-00000224 foreign
cjrtHMjE-wu-00001-00000225-00002676 [Music]
cjrtHMjE-wu-00002-00002677-00003349 [Music]
cjrtHMjE-wu-00003-00003350-00004035 [Music]
cjrtHMjE-wu-00004-00004036-00005118 [Music]
cjrtHMjE-wu-00005-00005119-00005338 yo what's popping people welcome back to
cjrtHMjE-wu-00006-00005339-00005488 another episode of kicking their bass TV
cjrtHMjE-wu-00007-00005489-00005645 if you guys are new to the channel hit
cjrtHMjE-wu-00008-00005646-00005783 that subscribe button hit the
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cjrtHMjE-wu-00010-00005898-00006017 button if you guys have been enjoying
cjrtHMjE-wu-00011-00006018-00006263 the content today we're actually taking
cjrtHMjE-wu-00012-00006264-00006442 out a few supporters of the channel they
cjrtHMjE-wu-00013-00006443-00006610 came out to the fan meet up last weekend
cjrtHMjE-wu-00014-00006611-00006941 and we got PJ right here we got Ethan
cjrtHMjE-wu-00015-00006942-00007067 we're gonna put them on the camera some
cjrtHMjE-wu-00016-00007068-00007259 more here in a little bit but they
cjrtHMjE-wu-00017-00007259-00007445 invited us out to come out to this Lake
cjrtHMjE-wu-00018-00007445-00007589 that's right down the road from my house
cjrtHMjE-wu-00019-00007590-00007792 and uh we put the bass boat in we can't
cjrtHMjE-wu-00020-00007793-00007937 run the big motor in here but we can run
cjrtHMjE-wu-00021-00007938-00008105 the trolling motor and uh we're gonna
cjrtHMjE-wu-00022-00008106-00008255 hunt for some big fish today I think
cjrtHMjE-wu-00023-00008256-00008435 it's gonna be a good time
cjrtHMjE-wu-00024-00008436-00008692 um little funny story we uh they sent
cjrtHMjE-wu-00025-00008693-00008867 Cody the dress last night and Cody
cjrtHMjE-wu-00026-00008868-00009053 texted it to me and I put it in my
cjrtHMjE-wu-00027-00009054-00009251 navigation and I ended up driving 30
cjrtHMjE-wu-00028-00009252-00009485 minutes in the opposite direction to the
cjrtHMjE-wu-00029-00009486-00009628 same address in a whole different spot
cjrtHMjE-wu-00030-00009629-00009821 so we ended up getting out here a little
cjrtHMjE-wu-00031-00009822-00009983 bit later but I think it's going to be
cjrtHMjE-wu-00032-00009984-00010078 good you know we're gonna have fun
cjrtHMjE-wu-00033-00010079-00010253 there's a fish just jumping right there
cjrtHMjE-wu-00034-00010254-00010433 in the background so let's go ahead and
cjrtHMjE-wu-00035-00010434-00010613 hop into it see what we can do today and
cjrtHMjE-wu-00036-00010614-00010721 uh hopefully we can get on some really
cjrtHMjE-wu-00037-00010722-00011069 big fish let's get it I think uh one of
cjrtHMjE-wu-00038-00011070-00011188 the first baits that we're gonna rock
cjrtHMjE-wu-00039-00011189-00011459 with water visibility
cjrtHMjE-wu-00040-00011460-00011651 um it's pretty clear out here
cjrtHMjE-wu-00041-00011652-00011813 it's slightly murky but you got that
cjrtHMjE-wu-00042-00011814-00011938 green water tint so we're gonna go with
cjrtHMjE-wu-00043-00011939-00012149 more of a natural color
cjrtHMjE-wu-00044-00012150-00012227 um
cjrtHMjE-wu-00045-00012228-00012581 and I'm gonna tie on a 6xd and I don't
cjrtHMjE-wu-00046-00012582-00012737 know exactly what color this is but it's
cjrtHMjE-wu-00047-00012738-00012965 got some green on top purple or purple
cjrtHMjE-wu-00048-00012966-00013247 right on the top green on the top side
cjrtHMjE-wu-00049-00013247-00013427 let's get some white on the bottom it's
cjrtHMjE-wu-00050-00013428-00013594 a nice little natural color so we're
cjrtHMjE-wu-00051-00013595-00013829 gonna put a 6xd on I think we're gonna
cjrtHMjE-wu-00052-00013830-00014051 put on a lipless crankbait to Rattle
cjrtHMjE-wu-00053-00014052-00014422 Trap and then maybe a jig
cjrtHMjE-wu-00054-00014423-00014561 you got you know we're gonna try out
cjrtHMjE-wu-00055-00014562-00014729 here first see if we can find some fish
cjrtHMjE-wu-00056-00014730-00014855 out deep here in some of these little
cjrtHMjE-wu-00057-00014856-00014999 holes that are tucked on the bottom
cjrtHMjE-wu-00058-00015000-00015172 there's a lot of bait out here
cjrtHMjE-wu-00059-00015173-00015449 if that doesn't work there's also a bank
cjrtHMjE-wu-00060-00015450-00015616 on this other side it's got a bunch of
cjrtHMjE-wu-00061-00015618-00015886 lay downs and shades so yeah that's kind
cjrtHMjE-wu-00062-00015887-00016000 of the game plan so let's go ahead and
cjrtHMjE-wu-00063-00016001-00016343 get tied up and get fishing
cjrtHMjE-wu-00064-00016344-00016553 see that color
cjrtHMjE-wu-00065-00016554-00016780 I only have one of these Cody and it's
cjrtHMjE-wu-00066-00016781-00016943 so Saucy like this is one of the
cjrtHMjE-wu-00067-00016944-00017063 sauciest
cjrtHMjE-wu-00068-00017064-00017308 colors that I got the only reason I
cjrtHMjE-wu-00069-00017309-00017429 haven't thrown it is because I only have
cjrtHMjE-wu-00070-00017430-00017650 one but today I feel like we need to
cjrtHMjE-wu-00071-00017651-00017794 throw it you know what I mean
cjrtHMjE-wu-00072-00017795-00017933 that color right there is gonna be good
cjrtHMjE-wu-00073-00017934-00018058 by the way if you guys want to get a
cjrtHMjE-wu-00074-00018059-00018233 discount on any of the Strike King baits
cjrtHMjE-wu-00075-00018234-00018394 I'll have my discount codes and links
cjrtHMjE-wu-00076-00018395-00018575 down below you guys can go get them down
cjrtHMjE-wu-00077-00018576-00018844 there
cjrtHMjE-wu-00078-00018845-00019127 y'all comfortable y'all good once once
cjrtHMjE-wu-00079-00019128-00020455 we uh once I get all this on we'll do
cjrtHMjE-wu-00080-00020456-00020825 I got a little um Rattle Trap going okay
cjrtHMjE-wu-00081-00020826-00020939 arms
cjrtHMjE-wu-00082-00020940-00021072 I think we'll catch some big fish today
cjrtHMjE-wu-00083-00021073-00021305 you got a Rattle Trap you got a Rattle
cjrtHMjE-wu-00084-00021306-00021508 Trap you got like a natural one on yeah
cjrtHMjE-wu-00085-00021509-00021689 like blue and yellow you got blue and
cjrtHMjE-wu-00086-00021690-00021880 yellow you got you got a crawdad color
cjrtHMjE-wu-00087-00021881-00022072 on so I'll probably throw that natural
cjrtHMjE-wu-00088-00022073-00022247 and then by the way I pulled out this
cjrtHMjE-wu-00089-00022248-00022535 too it's a little jig green pumpkin with
cjrtHMjE-wu-00090-00022536-00022661 a little bit of chartreuse in it and
cjrtHMjE-wu-00091-00022662-00022794 we'll put a
cjrtHMjE-wu-00092-00022795-00023033 summer curl rage curl on the back of
cjrtHMjE-wu-00094-00026425-00027083 oh for sure
cjrtHMjE-wu-00095-00027083-00027257 I'm gonna be honest boys I'm just kind
cjrtHMjE-wu-00096-00027258-00027467 of I'ma literally just kind of idle
cjrtHMjE-wu-00097-00027468-00027707 around and just see like watch My Graph
cjrtHMjE-wu-00098-00027708-00028096 and
cjrtHMjE-wu-00099-00028097-00028235 that's the thing when you come to places
cjrtHMjE-wu-00100-00028236-00028487 like this there's not contour lines so
cjrtHMjE-wu-00101-00028488-00028607 you can't really tell you know where the
cjrtHMjE-wu-00102-00028608-00028858 drop-offs or anything's at so that's the
cjrtHMjE-wu-00103-00028860-00030293 thing I was worried about so that grass
cjrtHMjE-wu-00104-00030294-00030827 it's my brand new one I gotta set it up
cjrtHMjE-wu-00105-00030827-00031108 got a question for you what's that
cjrtHMjE-wu-00106-00031110-00031390 whenever before you came out with your
cjrtHMjE-wu-00107-00031391-00031690 rods why would you always use the pro TI
cjrtHMjE-wu-00108-00031691-00032062 reel but on the mock smash Rod you want
cjrtHMjE-wu-00109-00032063-00032249 to know the the true story behind that
cjrtHMjE-wu-00110-00032250-00032633 one yeah so I um I had you know I ended
cjrtHMjE-wu-00111-00032633-00032873 up buying a per TI combo I had the rod
cjrtHMjE-wu-00112-00032874-00033077 in the Reel and I went to my parents
cjrtHMjE-wu-00113-00033078-00033299 house and we were fishing because they
cjrtHMjE-wu-00114-00033300-00033509 live on like a little pond
cjrtHMjE-wu-00115-00033510-00033790 and we were fishing the pond
cjrtHMjE-wu-00116-00033791-00033989 and I was using
cjrtHMjE-wu-00117-00033990-00034193 one of my other rods I had it down in
cjrtHMjE-wu-00118-00034194-00034396 the grass and my mom was helping film it
cjrtHMjE-wu-00119-00034397-00034517 was just me and my dad messing around
cjrtHMjE-wu-00120-00034518-00034745 and my mom walked around the corner and
cjrtHMjE-wu-00121-00034746-00035015 steps on the rod and breaks the rod yeah
cjrtHMjE-wu-00122-00035016-00035279 the most expensive Rod I know it's the
cjrtHMjE-wu-00123-00035280-00035507 most expensive Rod I got no I never
cjrtHMjE-wu-00124-00035508-00035717 broke it on like just doing anything it
cjrtHMjE-wu-00125-00035718-00035902 was just her stepping on it but I was
cjrtHMjE-wu-00126-00035903-00036124 like oh man she felt so bad so I'm like
cjrtHMjE-wu-00127-00036125-00036251 it's fine
cjrtHMjE-wu-00128-00036252-00037811 yeah that's that's why I was using that
cjrtHMjE-wu-00129-00037812-00038195 got him oh he came off okay
cjrtHMjE-wu-00130-00038196-00038311 okay
cjrtHMjE-wu-00131-00038312-00038549 oh are you filming me I thought you were
cjrtHMjE-wu-00132-00038550-00038729 turning around
cjrtHMjE-wu-00133-00038730-00039031 First cast on The Jig bro First cast
cjrtHMjE-wu-00134-00039032-00039587 [Music]
cjrtHMjE-wu-00135-00039588-00039737 so we were just talking about every time
cjrtHMjE-wu-00136-00039738-00039839 they're like hey you want to skip
cjrtHMjE-wu-00137-00039840-00040024 opening this hole or if he puts a camera
cjrtHMjE-wu-00138-00040025-00040187 on me I just can't skip so we're gonna
cjrtHMjE-wu-00139-00040188-00040402 see if we can do it
cjrtHMjE-wu-00140-00040403-00040661 say hello crevice
cjrtHMjE-wu-00141-00040662-00040793 okay
cjrtHMjE-wu-00142-00040794-00041074 not bad not the I wish I could have got
cjrtHMjE-wu-00143-00041075-00041237 further in there
cjrtHMjE-wu-00144-00041238-00041411 there should be a fish in there I can't
cjrtHMjE-wu-00145-00041412-00041687 believe we haven't I pull up guys I'll
cjrtHMjE-wu-00146-00041688-00041908 put that rage crawl on this jig First
cjrtHMjE-wu-00147-00041909-00042173 cast I get I get a good bite we haven't
cjrtHMjE-wu-00148-00042174-00042305 even had another I mean he had a couple
cjrtHMjE-wu-00149-00042306-00042562 nibbles but it's weird we might what we
cjrtHMjE-wu-00150-00042563-00042730 might need to do is back off and fish
cjrtHMjE-wu-00151-00042731-00042874 the drop off but we're trying to get up
cjrtHMjE-wu-00152-00042875-00043452 in there these trees right now
cjrtHMjE-wu-00153-00043453-00043643 the bottom
cjrtHMjE-wu-00154-00043644-00043918 really
cjrtHMjE-wu-00155-00043919-00044455 you got them get them good nice buddy
cjrtHMjE-wu-00156-00044456-00044765 nice buddy there you go it's a little
cjrtHMjE-wu-00157-00044766-00045023 fat guy another fish of the day hey you
cjrtHMjE-wu-00158-00045024-00045202 guys are somewhere right yeah she's a
cjrtHMjE-wu-00159-00045203-00045407 little fellow nice dude
cjrtHMjE-wu-00160-00045408-00046001 good job he smoked it
cjrtHMjE-wu-00161-00046002-00046283 there you go a little fella I was just
cjrtHMjE-wu-00162-00046284-00046505 uh running that little uh ribbon tail on
cjrtHMjE-wu-00163-00046506-00046595 the bottom
cjrtHMjE-wu-00164-00046596-00046762 and he just took it picked it up right
cjrtHMjE-wu-00165-00046763-00046889 off the bottom
cjrtHMjE-wu-00166-00046890-00047315 smoked it that one yeah cool perfect I'm
cjrtHMjE-wu-00167-00047316-00047573 gonna let him back
cjrtHMjE-wu-00168-00047574-00048284 [Music]
cjrtHMjE-wu-00169-00048285-00050699 [Music]
cjrtHMjE-wu-00170-00050700-00051226 foreign
cjrtHMjE-wu-00171-00051227-00051490 foot
cjrtHMjE-wu-00172-00051491-00051646 should be right here on the edge of this
cjrtHMjE-wu-00173-00051647-00051802 grass
cjrtHMjE-wu-00174-00051803-00052037 but see that's another thing it should
cjrtHMjE-wu-00175-00052038-00052199 it's deeper over there and it has
cjrtHMjE-wu-00176-00052200-00052408 another
cjrtHMjE-wu-00177-00052409-00052582 there he is baby right there on the edge
cjrtHMjE-wu-00178-00052583-00052799 of that grass I was a biggie
cjrtHMjE-wu-00179-00052800-00052997 oh yeah that's a big one
cjrtHMjE-wu-00180-00052998-00053350 yeah
cjrtHMjE-wu-00181-00053351-00053561 I'll get them oh he's fat look how he
cjrtHMjE-wu-00182-00053562-00053687 choked it dude
cjrtHMjE-wu-00183-00053688-00054016 cool baby look at that hey he's about
cjrtHMjE-wu-00184-00054017-00054304 three in a two pounder body
cjrtHMjE-wu-00185-00054305-00054592 oh my god dude I haven't caught a fish
cjrtHMjE-wu-00186-00054594-00054779 that fat in a minute
cjrtHMjE-wu-00187-00054779-00055126 look at that Deli dude that's a freaking
cjrtHMjE-wu-00188-00055127-00055330 I'm gonna tell you we just found the
cjrtHMjE-wu-00189-00055332-00055475 spot remember I was saying it might drop
cjrtHMjE-wu-00190-00055476-00055679 off but if you look on your left you see
cjrtHMjE-wu-00191-00055679-00055829 all that grass
cjrtHMjE-wu-00192-00055829-00056038 so you got the shallow flatty point and
cjrtHMjE-wu-00193-00056039-00056147 they're hanging right on the edge of
cjrtHMjE-wu-00194-00056148-00056261 that grass and they'll pull up and
cjrtHMjE-wu-00195-00056262-00056459 they'll Ambush that bait right here this
cjrtHMjE-wu-00196-00056460-00056591 is the spot that's what I've been
cjrtHMjE-wu-00197-00056591-00056699 waiting on
cjrtHMjE-wu-00198-00056700-00056909 ate that thing head first too baby look
cjrtHMjE-wu-00199-00056910-00057130 at that kbd trap
cjrtHMjE-wu-00200-00057132-00057442 yes sir well there we go guys that's my
cjrtHMjE-wu-00201-00057444-00057671 first fish today second fish overall and
cjrtHMjE-wu-00202-00057672-00057869 that's a solid three pound chunk I mean
cjrtHMjE-wu-00203-00057870-00058061 what would you guys say three pounds we
cjrtHMjE-wu-00204-00058062-00058169 can put them on the scale here in a
cjrtHMjE-wu-00205-00058170-00058294 little bit but
cjrtHMjE-wu-00206-00058295-00058487 man that's a good fish just the belly on
cjrtHMjE-wu-00207-00058488-00058642 them is crazy you know that should be a
cjrtHMjE-wu-00208-00058644-00058804 two and a half pound fish but he's just
cjrtHMjE-wu-00209-00058805-00058907 a brute
cjrtHMjE-wu-00210-00058908-00059021 we're actually gonna put them in live
cjrtHMjE-wu-00211-00059022-00059171 we'll take a picture later we'll we'll
cjrtHMjE-wu-00212-00059172-00059303 always get the fish back in the water
cjrtHMjE-wu-00213-00059304-00059447 but
cjrtHMjE-wu-00214-00059448-00059632 it's a pretty guy he's definitely three
cjrtHMjE-wu-00215-00059633-00059938 dude yeah if not he's a high too
cjrtHMjE-wu-00216-00059939-00060215 nice give me some Boys Hey sir sir
cjrtHMjE-wu-00217-00060216-00060437 that's your turn buddy
cjrtHMjE-wu-00218-00060438-00060706 hard boys got our first or my first fish
cjrtHMjE-wu-00219-00060707-00060941 today
cjrtHMjE-wu-00220-00060941-00061115 um I'm gonna really hone in on this spot
cjrtHMjE-wu-00221-00061116-00061229 I think this is where these big ones are
cjrtHMjE-wu-00222-00061229-00061354 gonna be sitting
cjrtHMjE-wu-00223-00061355-00061516 might be able to get them to react on
cjrtHMjE-wu-00224-00061517-00061661 this trap some more
cjrtHMjE-wu-00225-00061662-00062153 but right out there that's the drop off
cjrtHMjE-wu-00226-00062154-00062326 but if you start casting up there yeah
cjrtHMjE-wu-00227-00062327-00062759 where that grass is
cjrtHMjE-wu-00228-00062760-00062992 yeah
cjrtHMjE-wu-00229-00062994-00063166 he was right on the edge I kind of I
cjrtHMjE-wu-00230-00063167-00063304 threw parallel with it you know we're
cjrtHMjE-wu-00231-00063305-00064079 coming up on it
cjrtHMjE-wu-00232-00064079-00064426 um it's like a little Island
cjrtHMjE-wu-00233-00064427-00064738 that sucker slapped it bro like
cjrtHMjE-wu-00234-00064739-00064973 it wasn't like a lazy bite he was there
cjrtHMjE-wu-00235-00064974-00065891 to eat it
cjrtHMjE-wu-00236-00065892-00066449 next to the river too
cjrtHMjE-wu-00237-00066450-00066559 yeah
cjrtHMjE-wu-00238-00066560-00066761 there he is right there that's a big
cjrtHMjE-wu-00239-00066762-00067111 noodle
cjrtHMjE-wu-00240-00067112-00067379 that's a big
cjrtHMjE-wu-00241-00067380-00067715 oh that's a freaking Tank Buddy
cjrtHMjE-wu-00242-00067716-00067967 yeah yeah grab that net I haven't seen
cjrtHMjE-wu-00243-00067968-00068075 him yet
cjrtHMjE-wu-00244-00068076-00068285 he's pulling good
cjrtHMjE-wu-00245-00068286-00068447 I think he choked it like I think it's
cjrtHMjE-wu-00246-00068448-00068650 in the back of his throat oh yeah that's
cjrtHMjE-wu-00247-00068651-00068843 a big fish buddy I haven't seen him oh
cjrtHMjE-wu-00248-00068844-00068993 yeah
cjrtHMjE-wu-00249-00068994-00069179 I mean I ain't he's about a four pounder
cjrtHMjE-wu-00250-00069180-00069365 we'll get him on the net come on this
cjrtHMjE-wu-00251-00069366-00069461 side
cjrtHMjE-wu-00252-00069462-00069941 no that's all right okay buddy I'm just
cjrtHMjE-wu-00253-00069942-00070303 gonna lift you got one double up baby
cjrtHMjE-wu-00254-00070304-00070750 look at that oh that's a big fish
cjrtHMjE-wu-00255-00070751-00070979 dude they're freaking brutes bro give me
cjrtHMjE-wu-00256-00070980-00071135 some give me some hey you got another
cjrtHMjE-wu-00257-00071136-00071399 big one here
cjrtHMjE-wu-00258-00071400-00071656 I'll bring them to you
cjrtHMjE-wu-00259-00071657-00071950 oh that's a nice picture oh that's a big
cjrtHMjE-wu-00260-00071951-00072394 one that might be a TV oh my God
cjrtHMjE-wu-00261-00072395-00072529 oh my gosh
cjrtHMjE-wu-00262-00072530-00072869 dude that's on my rod I know
cjrtHMjE-wu-00263-00072870-00073055 Ethan that wasn't you weren't stuck that
cjrtHMjE-wu-00264-00073056-00073315 was a fish
cjrtHMjE-wu-00265-00073316-00073565 oh my gosh
cjrtHMjE-wu-00266-00073566-00073756 that's a fish
cjrtHMjE-wu-00267-00073757-00073993 foreign
cjrtHMjE-wu-00268-00073994-00074441 ERS that's about
cjrtHMjE-wu-00269-00074442-00074603 I'm so stoked
cjrtHMjE-wu-00270-00074604-00074794 good job bro
cjrtHMjE-wu-00271-00074795-00075053 mine's bleeding a little bit Ethan
cjrtHMjE-wu-00272-00075054-00075244 thought he was snagged he thought he was
cjrtHMjE-wu-00273-00075245-00075562 stuck are you wait that was his ride
cjrtHMjE-wu-00274-00075563-00075869 yeah I'm gonna get the net anyway I see
cjrtHMjE-wu-00275-00075870-00075976 it swimming I'm like dude you're not
cjrtHMjE-wu-00276-00075977-00076355 stuck
cjrtHMjE-wu-00277-00076356-00076637 I don't know whose fish that is who
cjrtHMjE-wu-00278-00076638-00076841 would you say that is I'd say I think
cjrtHMjE-wu-00279-00076842-00077075 it's half of yours I think half well I
cjrtHMjE-wu-00280-00077076-00077706 think I got on Ethan
cjrtHMjE-wu-00281-00077707-00077897 break your boat
cjrtHMjE-wu-00282-00077898-00078175 yeah you might you gotta go that way
cjrtHMjE-wu-00283-00078176-00078740 you put them on this side
cjrtHMjE-wu-00284-00078741-00079243 [Music]
cjrtHMjE-wu-00285-00079244-00079559 here we go buddy hey
cjrtHMjE-wu-00286-00079560-00079825 that's sweet hey hey
cjrtHMjE-wu-00287-00079826-00080188 you're apart yeah he felt so big because
cjrtHMjE-wu-00288-00080189-00080369 I had it you know in his throat but I
cjrtHMjE-wu-00289-00080370-00080531 thought that was probably a six dude he
cjrtHMjE-wu-00290-00080532-00080675 didn't feel like a four pounder and I
cjrtHMjE-wu-00291-00080676-00080861 would go with my dad you know we we used
cjrtHMjE-wu-00292-00080862-00081011 to go out on the boat a lot like they
cjrtHMjE-wu-00293-00081012-00081226 had like pontoons and stuff like that we
cjrtHMjE-wu-00294-00081227-00081371 could chill out on
cjrtHMjE-wu-00295-00081372-00081556 and um
cjrtHMjE-wu-00296-00081557-00081719 yeah I started fishing like off The
cjrtHMjE-wu-00297-00081720-00081838 Docks and stuff catching a little
cjrtHMjE-wu-00298-00081839-00081994 bluegill
cjrtHMjE-wu-00299-00081995-00082168 and that kind of led to my granddad
cjrtHMjE-wu-00300-00082169-00082355 taking me out I started off with
cjrtHMjE-wu-00301-00082356-00082571 catfishing
cjrtHMjE-wu-00302-00082572-00082882 oh gosh dude he's running at me I mean
cjrtHMjE-wu-00303-00082883-00083429 he about took the rod out of my hand
cjrtHMjE-wu-00304-00083430-00083681 yeah I think it's another good one
cjrtHMjE-wu-00305-00083682-00083873 you didn't feel oh gosh that's the
cjrtHMjE-wu-00306-00083874-00083987 biggest one
cjrtHMjE-wu-00307-00083988-00084311 he's barely hooked too
cjrtHMjE-wu-00308-00084312-00084568 he's a brute
cjrtHMjE-wu-00309-00084569-00084712 get that buddy
cjrtHMjE-wu-00310-00084713-00085025 yes sir
cjrtHMjE-wu-00311-00085026-00085444 yes sir
cjrtHMjE-wu-00312-00085445-00085768 that sucker bit it boys look at these
cjrtHMjE-wu-00313-00085769-00086062 fish man he ain't the biggest one is he
cjrtHMjE-wu-00314-00086063-00086387 no they're all like twins I swear this
cjrtHMjE-wu-00315-00086388-00086531 one's like the size of that first one I
cjrtHMjE-wu-00316-00086532-00086873 got
cjrtHMjE-wu-00317-00086874-00087185 yeah dude they are hammering this trap I
cjrtHMjE-wu-00318-00087186-00087532 mean I
cjrtHMjE-wu-00319-00087533-00087767 oh this color
cjrtHMjE-wu-00320-00087768-00087935 yeah
cjrtHMjE-wu-00321-00087936-00088138 I don't know you got one on that uh that
cjrtHMjE-wu-00322-00088139-00088325 red one though there we go guys another
cjrtHMjE-wu-00323-00088326-00088576 tank we got about this is our fourth one
cjrtHMjE-wu-00324-00088577-00088793 right we've probably got about 12 13
cjrtHMjE-wu-00325-00088794-00089021 pounds we're not more than that I don't
cjrtHMjE-wu-00326-00089022-00089291 know I mean it's consistent like three
cjrtHMjE-wu-00327-00089292-00089473 three and a half pound four pound fish
cjrtHMjE-wu-00328-00089474-00090329 these things are slamming it
cjrtHMjE-wu-00329-00090330-00090444 got it
cjrtHMjE-wu-00330-00090445-00090900 yeah
cjrtHMjE-wu-00331-00090901-00091176 we got back boys
cjrtHMjE-wu-00332-00091177-00091403 need some bigger ones now we got them
cjrtHMjE-wu-00333-00091404-00091625 this good three and four Pounders we
cjrtHMjE-wu-00334-00091626-00091937 need a seven or an eight maybe a six
cjrtHMjE-wu-00335-00091938-00092225 story
cjrtHMjE-wu-00336-00092226-00092435 you got one big
cjrtHMjE-wu-00337-00092436-00092765 not a good one anybody uh oh Cody's
cjrtHMjE-wu-00338-00092766-00092915 hooked up
cjrtHMjE-wu-00339-00092916-00093487 with the fifth big in today
cjrtHMjE-wu-00340-00093488-00093779 there's three pounder look at the brute
cjrtHMjE-wu-00341-00093780-00094212 dude
cjrtHMjE-wu-00342-00094213-00094367 [Music]
cjrtHMjE-wu-00343-00094368-00094637 I got a camera on him buddy cameraman
cjrtHMjE-wu-00344-00094638-00094961 Cody on board that's a stubby fat guy
cjrtHMjE-wu-00345-00094962-00095135 yeah he's not quite
cjrtHMjE-wu-00346-00095136-00095344 I don't know dude that's a two pound
cjrtHMjE-wu-00347-00095345-00095429 fish
cjrtHMjE-wu-00348-00095430-00095650 ing three pounds you know
cjrtHMjE-wu-00349-00095651-00095909 Official White Rattle Trap biting it
cjrtHMjE-wu-00350-00095910-00096059 like Noah was saying earlier and just
cjrtHMjE-wu-00351-00096060-00096221 slamming it like they're not scared of
cjrtHMjE-wu-00352-00096222-00096329 these things
cjrtHMjE-wu-00353-00096330-00096581 that's fun thank you guys for bringing
cjrtHMjE-wu-00354-00096582-00096750 us out here yeah
cjrtHMjE-wu-00355-00096751-00097126 I really want like a five plus
cjrtHMjE-wu-00356-00097127-00097867 got a couple fours a couple threes
cjrtHMjE-wu-00357-00097868-00098087 when we got about
cjrtHMjE-wu-00358-00098088-00098218 how big is that one that you caught
cjrtHMjE-wu-00359-00098219-00098381 almost three maybe Cody that's our
cjrtHMjE-wu-00360-00098382-00098561 smallest one in there yeah
cjrtHMjE-wu-00361-00098562-00098897 let's say we got six six fourteen we got
cjrtHMjE-wu-00362-00098898-00099311 about seven 16 to 17 pounds right now
cjrtHMjE-wu-00363-00099312-00099587 I mean yo matter of fact I was talking
cjrtHMjE-wu-00364-00099588-00099881 about how it's bad grass that is good
cjrtHMjE-wu-00365-00099882-00100067 stuff right there and you see how it's
cjrtHMjE-wu-00366-00100068-00100300 green see how it's not brown if it was
cjrtHMjE-wu-00367-00100301-00100535 brown I'd say to not fish it that's
cjrtHMjE-wu-00368-00100536-00100732 fresh
cjrtHMjE-wu-00369-00100733-00100924 that was right up where you where he
cjrtHMjE-wu-00370-00100925-00101332 just casted
cjrtHMjE-wu-00371-00101333-00101506 that's why them fish are there see that
cjrtHMjE-wu-00372-00101507-00101656 puts off oxygen
cjrtHMjE-wu-00373-00101657-00101950 that sloppy don't
cjrtHMjE-wu-00374-00101951-00102191 see what what happened is it puts off
cjrtHMjE-wu-00375-00102192-00102388 oxygen then all the beta compile you
cjrtHMjE-wu-00376-00102389-00102634 know get up in it oh there you go boy
cjrtHMjE-wu-00377-00102635-00102844 that's a big and keep that yeah keep
cjrtHMjE-wu-00378-00102845-00103108 that up pressure dude that was sweet I'm
cjrtHMjE-wu-00379-00103109-00103271 gonna get the net for you that's a
cjrtHMjE-wu-00380-00103272-00103840 biggie
cjrtHMjE-wu-00381-00103841-00104249 I think it's the biggest one today
cjrtHMjE-wu-00382-00104250-00104458 good job buddy
cjrtHMjE-wu-00383-00104459-00104747 the worm no that was on the chatter what
cjrtHMjE-wu-00384-00104748-00105627 was it yes
cjrtHMjE-wu-00385-00105628-00105778 [Music]
cjrtHMjE-wu-00386-00105779-00106013 that might be a four dude that's close
cjrtHMjE-wu-00387-00106014-00106325 it's close it's a high three if not
cjrtHMjE-wu-00388-00106326-00106595 good job buddy you jacked him too I was
cjrtHMjE-wu-00389-00106596-00106871 watching though that was that was neat
cjrtHMjE-wu-00390-00106872-00107183 yeah there you go good job man give me
cjrtHMjE-wu-00391-00107183-00107531 some let's get it that's a good fish
cjrtHMjE-wu-00392-00107532-00107704 yeah he's slaying that sucker didn't he
cjrtHMjE-wu-00393-00107705-00107843 right out there in that nice grass that
cjrtHMjE-wu-00394-00107844-00108516 you were talking about
cjrtHMjE-wu-00395-00108517-00108773 mom supports your dreams that's all
cjrtHMjE-wu-00396-00108774-00108997 right that's cool
cjrtHMjE-wu-00397-00108998-00109240 uh we take it she loves saltwater fish
cjrtHMjE-wu-00398-00109241-00109601 why if I cash your wine buddy oh God oh
cjrtHMjE-wu-00399-00109602-00109984 God that's a big and goatee
cjrtHMjE-wu-00400-00109985-00110436 he ate it right at the boat
cjrtHMjE-wu-00401-00110438-00110752 that's a six pounder baby that's a
cjrtHMjE-wu-00402-00110753-00110927 freaking tank
cjrtHMjE-wu-00403-00110928-00111233 oh my God it's a freaking tank boy dude
cjrtHMjE-wu-00404-00111233-00111490 that's a huge yeah that's a meatball I
cjrtHMjE-wu-00405-00111491-00111647 don't know if he's quite six he's a five
cjrtHMjE-wu-00406-00111648-00111971 he's a five though let me pull him out
cjrtHMjE-wu-00407-00111972-00112271 show him what show him what we got look
cjrtHMjE-wu-00408-00112272-00112439 what Cody just caught just reeling out
cjrtHMjE-wu-00409-00112440-00112690 of the boat yeah gosh he looked a lot
cjrtHMjE-wu-00410-00112691-00112889 bigger in the his Tail's small but dude
cjrtHMjE-wu-00411-00112890-00113201 he's a freaking thick that might be a
cjrtHMjE-wu-00412-00113202-00113375 five pounder dude I just don't know yeah
cjrtHMjE-wu-00413-00113376-00113566 dude that's Tank Buddy that's a meatball
cjrtHMjE-wu-00414-00113567-00113819 all right what do you think I'm saying
cjrtHMjE-wu-00415-00113820-00114016 at least five
cjrtHMjE-wu-00416-00114017-00114389 oh I'm saying five and a quarter I'm
cjrtHMjE-wu-00417-00114390-00114533 gonna be the bummer here
cjrtHMjE-wu-00418-00114533-00114743 I'm gonna go four point seven five okay
cjrtHMjE-wu-00419-00114744-00114923 actually I haven't got a good look he's
cjrtHMjE-wu-00420-00114924-00115084 heavy dude I don't know I'm gonna say
cjrtHMjE-wu-00421-00115085-00115366 five on the die I'm gonna say 480.
cjrtHMjE-wu-00422-00115367-00115589 all right so you all are about at five
cjrtHMjE-wu-00423-00115590-00115823 five and a quarter I'm gonna say four
cjrtHMjE-wu-00424-00115824-00116051 and a quarter for a high five or a high
cjrtHMjE-wu-00425-00116052-00116651 four
cjrtHMjE-wu-00426-00116652-00116849 you're not even gonna believe it what
cjrtHMjE-wu-00427-00116850-00117166 take a guess five seven five on the
cjrtHMjE-wu-00428-00117167-00117454 money bro that was my guess look that
cjrtHMjE-wu-00429-00117455-00117683 was my guess that was his guess too oh
cjrtHMjE-wu-00430-00117683-00117928 was it literally five five on the money
cjrtHMjE-wu-00431-00117929-00118086 dog
cjrtHMjE-wu-00432-00118088-00118558 it was a meatball you got me nervous
cjrtHMjE-wu-00433-00118559-00118883 I'm so nervous
cjrtHMjE-wu-00434-00118883-00119058 it's because you introduce yourself
cjrtHMjE-wu-00435-00119059-00119381 oh my God I got a fish I did not think I
cjrtHMjE-wu-00436-00119382-00119536 had a fish I was actually playing with
cjrtHMjE-wu-00437-00119538-00119627 you
cjrtHMjE-wu-00438-00119628-00119873 and he choked
cjrtHMjE-wu-00439-00119874-00120058 he was right about where he should have
cjrtHMjE-wu-00440-00120059-00120323 been on the end of that point he's a
cjrtHMjE-wu-00441-00120324-00120575 heavy boy he's our smallest
cjrtHMjE-wu-00442-00120576-00120886 oh my God maybe not
cjrtHMjE-wu-00443-00120888-00121121 oh my gosh it's just a lot bigger than I
cjrtHMjE-wu-00444-00121122-00121243 thought
cjrtHMjE-wu-00445-00121244-00121571 it's just like a fat three pounder
cjrtHMjE-wu-00446-00121572-00121877 nah I'll flip him
cjrtHMjE-wu-00447-00121878-00122002 yeah
cjrtHMjE-wu-00448-00122003-00122458 yeah choked it all three pound of Yonder
cjrtHMjE-wu-00449-00122459-00122608 I was actually just playing you were
cjrtHMjE-wu-00450-00122609-00122843 next to me Cody yeah and I didn't want
cjrtHMjE-wu-00451-00122844-00122993 to slap you
cjrtHMjE-wu-00452-00122994-00123160 so I was like I'm just gonna kind of
cjrtHMjE-wu-00453-00123161-00123323 lift up and all of a sudden I felt him
cjrtHMjE-wu-00454-00123324-00123539 go tug tug on on the back of me all
cjrtHMjE-wu-00455-00123540-00123760 right y'all another nice three pounder
cjrtHMjE-wu-00456-00123761-00123952 you know we got a couple of them in the
cjrtHMjE-wu-00457-00123953-00124157 box you know we got three fours and a
cjrtHMjE-wu-00458-00124158-00124307 five and then I think we got another
cjrtHMjE-wu-00459-00124308-00124552 three but we're gonna throw him back but
cjrtHMjE-wu-00460-00124553-00124745 he's a nice healthy guy
cjrtHMjE-wu-00461-00124746-00125014 choked on that trap this big grass flat
cjrtHMjE-wu-00462-00125015-00125177 comes out to a point and he was right
cjrtHMjE-wu-00463-00125178-00125321 off the end of the point but that's just
cjrtHMjE-wu-00464-00125322-00125508 a brute them fish have been so healthy
cjrtHMjE-wu-00465-00125509-00125801 that's my smallest one today that's
cjrtHMjE-wu-00466-00125802-00126131 crazy here it goes give me some Cody Bob
cjrtHMjE-wu-00467-00126132-00126316 there you go let's get it there we go
cjrtHMjE-wu-00468-00126317-00126623 I'm gonna put mine back first
cjrtHMjE-wu-00469-00126624-00127031 look at that sir what a day let's stick
cjrtHMjE-wu-00470-00127032-00127847 this right in there
cjrtHMjE-wu-00471-00127848-00128302 beautiful
cjrtHMjE-wu-00472-00128303-00128525 oh he's gone
cjrtHMjE-wu-00473-00128526-00128813 some nice fish man
cjrtHMjE-wu-00474-00128814-00129028 beautiful Bass
cjrtHMjE-wu-00475-00129029-00129233 every little kick
cjrtHMjE-wu-00476-00129233-00129628 she goes
cjrtHMjE-wu-00477-00129629-00130564 uh-oh you gotta revive him a little bit
cjrtHMjE-wu-00478-00130565-00130775 he's going there he goes there we go
cjrtHMjE-wu-00479-00130776-00130927 boys
cjrtHMjE-wu-00480-00130928-00131152 high five you think that was a lot of
cjrtHMjE-wu-00481-00131153-00131357 fun dude we had a blast today I really
cjrtHMjE-wu-00482-00131358-00131501 appreciate you guys and buying this out
cjrtHMjE-wu-00483-00131502-00131728 man that was a good time you know we met
cjrtHMjE-wu-00484-00131729-00131878 them at the Meetup this Saturday really
cjrtHMjE-wu-00485-00131879-00132137 cool guys really good kids and man I
cjrtHMjE-wu-00486-00132138-00132328 appreciate it man this is a fun day we
cjrtHMjE-wu-00487-00132329-00132527 we're gonna have to do it again
cjrtHMjE-wu-00488-00132528-00132689 um I hate that you stole Ethan's fish
cjrtHMjE-wu-00489-00132690-00132935 that's all right rather than that it was
cjrtHMjE-wu-00490-00132936-00133145 a good day man that was a good day we're
cjrtHMjE-wu-00491-00133146-00133295 gonna go back out we're gonna get you a
cjrtHMjE-wu-00492-00133296-00133487 big one we're gonna make it happen but
cjrtHMjE-wu-00493-00133488-00133673 well I hope you guys enjoyed this video
cjrtHMjE-wu-00494-00133674-00133943 if you did please hit the like button it
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cjrtHMjE-wu-00498-00134412-00134585 if you want to see these boys back on
cjrtHMjE-wu-00499-00134586-00134711 the channel because we had a good time
cjrtHMjE-wu-00500-00134712-00134878 today but I hope you guys enjoyed it
cjrtHMjE-wu-00501-00134879-00135250 I'll catch y'all on the next one
cjrtHMjE-wu-00502-00135251-00136552 [Music]
cjrtHMjE-wu-00503-00136553-00136733 foreign
cjrtHMjE-wu-00504-00136734-00137058 [Music]
cndrPr_FdgM-00000-00000003-00000188 hi so today I wanted to talk about the
cndrPr_FdgM-00001-00000189-00000329 three most common questions I get asked
cndrPr_FdgM-00002-00000330-00000455 when performing a consultation here at
cndrPr_FdgM-00003-00000456-00000911 CrossFit so question number one is am i
cndrPr_FdgM-00004-00000911-00001174 fit enough to do CrossFit this comes
cndrPr_FdgM-00005-00001175-00001298 from people that have been watching
cndrPr_FdgM-00006-00001299-00001537 maybe the cost to fit on YouTube or some
cndrPr_FdgM-00007-00001538-00001657 of the Netflix ultimate trees that
cndrPr_FdgM-00008-00001659-00001766 fittest on earth those are the things
cndrPr_FdgM-00009-00001767-00001960 and they've seen the CrossFit Games and
cndrPr_FdgM-00010-00001961-00002090 they've seen we were doing muscle
cndrPr_FdgM-00011-00002091-00002246 Epstein people climbing ropes him doing
cndrPr_FdgM-00012-00002247-00002518 obstacle courses all kinds of
cndrPr_FdgM-00013-00002519-00002780 shenanigans in the CrossFit Games and
cndrPr_FdgM-00014-00002781-00002999 they wonder whether they you know they
cndrPr_FdgM-00015-00003000-00003137 could actually join if they can't do any
cndrPr_FdgM-00016-00003138-00003247 of that stuff they can't anybody very
cndrPr_FdgM-00017-00003248-00003434 touched a barber before how can they be
cndrPr_FdgM-00018-00003435-00003820 expected to do CrossFit first point to
cndrPr_FdgM-00019-00003821-00003974 clarify is that the CrossFit Games
cndrPr_FdgM-00020-00003975-00004463 crossed it as a sport is not the same as
cndrPr_FdgM-00021-00004464-00004709 what happens in a CrossFit box like
cndrPr_FdgM-00022-00004710-00004808 ourselves here
cndrPr_FdgM-00023-00004809-00005042 so the sport of CrossFit is the fittest
cndrPr_FdgM-00024-00005043-00005408 of the fit competing to find out who is
cndrPr_FdgM-00025-00005409-00005750 the fittest on earth as a result the
cndrPr_FdgM-00026-00005751-00005959 tests are extremely difficult with
cndrPr_FdgM-00027-00005960-00006200 extremely complex work in there could be
cndrPr_FdgM-00028-00006201-00006491 taxing and that's the equivalent of I
cndrPr_FdgM-00029-00006492-00006967 suppose comparing I know what Mo Farah
cndrPr_FdgM-00030-00006968-00007442 does to starting jogging and if you look
cndrPr_FdgM-00031-00007443-00007556 at well my paradise you say oh we're
cndrPr_FdgM-00032-00007556-00007703 never gonna you know run a marathon in
cndrPr_FdgM-00033-00007704-00008035 two hours so that what's the point it's
cndrPr_FdgM-00034-00008036-00008185 not the same it's it's two different
cndrPr_FdgM-00035-00008186-00008328 things one is the top level of the sport
cndrPr_FdgM-00036-00008329-00008639 and the other is a way of training good
cndrPr_FdgM-00037-00008640-00009002 people fitter and healthier so although
cndrPr_FdgM-00038-00009003-00009160 you can use that as an aspiration so if
cndrPr_FdgM-00039-00009161-00009317 you maybe or fewer young athlete or you
cndrPr_FdgM-00040-00009318-00009485 just sort of maybe want to know okay
cndrPr_FdgM-00041-00009486-00009692 where is the peak of this you can look
cndrPr_FdgM-00042-00009693-00009803 at the CrossFit Games you look across
cndrPr_FdgM-00043-00009804-00009916 this sport and those of you that are
cndrPr_FdgM-00044-00009917-00010148 elite athletes you maybe have a target
cndrPr_FdgM-00045-00010149-00010373 of of you know ranking in the cross but
cndrPr_FdgM-00046-00010374-00010574 open or what you know high in the sport
cndrPr_FdgM-00047-00010575-00010867 there that's great but for 90% of people
cndrPr_FdgM-00048-00010868-00011045 it's about getting fitter and healthier
cndrPr_FdgM-00049-00011046-00011210 and achieving things you never thought
cndrPr_FdgM-00050-00011211-00011324 possible so when you see what we're
cndrPr_FdgM-00051-00011325-00011660 doing handstand walks muscle ups rope
cndrPr_FdgM-00052-00011661-00011930 climbs all of these things if you came
cndrPr_FdgM-00053-00011931-00012194 to a class yes you may even see on a
cndrPr_FdgM-00054-00012195-00012362 class that there is program to rope
cndrPr_FdgM-00055-00012363-00012574 climb well there is programmed a muscle
cndrPr_FdgM-00056-00012575-00012763 up or a pull up or you know something
cndrPr_FdgM-00057-00012764-00013036 really advanced but we've always got a
cndrPr_FdgM-00058-00013037-00013196 scaling options and the whole principle
cndrPr_FdgM-00059-00013197-00013375 behind what we do here is that
cndrPr_FdgM-00060-00013376-00013522 everyone that comes into class we've got
cndrPr_FdgM-00061-00013522-00013638 nine people in the class and we've got
cndrPr_FdgM-00062-00013640-00013869 the the fittest person here and a
cndrPr_FdgM-00063-00013870-00014053 complete beginner here you know one
cndrPr_FdgM-00064-00014054-00014316 guy's 21 year old guy another guys like
cndrPr_FdgM-00065-00014318-00014497 you know 65 year old guy I never trained
cndrPr_FdgM-00066-00014497-00014761 before they can do the same class but we
cndrPr_FdgM-00067-00014762-00014905 scale the movements to fit that's why we
cndrPr_FdgM-00068-00014906-00015025 have small classes because it's very
cndrPr_FdgM-00069-00015026-00015172 easy to manage and scale what we do so
cndrPr_FdgM-00070-00015172-00015352 for example people that were doing
cndrPr_FdgM-00071-00015353-00015505 muscle up that would be the top
cndrPr_FdgM-00072-00015506-00015678 progression so I muscle up being a
cndrPr_FdgM-00073-00015679-00015813 moving where you pull yourself up and
cndrPr_FdgM-00074-00015815-00016141 over the Rings or the bar and into a dip
cndrPr_FdgM-00075-00016141-00016344 so it's like a full pull up over into a
cndrPr_FdgM-00076-00016345-00016546 dip the scaling version of that
cndrPr_FdgM-00077-00016547-00016711 obviously we can scale it down to a
cndrPr_FdgM-00078-00016712-00016881 pull-up we could scale that pull-up down
cndrPr_FdgM-00079-00016882-00017031 to a pull-up where you're using a band
cndrPr_FdgM-00080-00017032-00017205 for assistance and maybe we can even
cndrPr_FdgM-00081-00017206-00017514 scale that down to a horizontal row
cndrPr_FdgM-00082-00017515-00017671 where you've got two rings and you're
cndrPr_FdgM-00083-00017672-00017800 rowing in like this and you haven't even
cndrPr_FdgM-00084-00017801-00017977 got a horizontal you could be at a
cndrPr_FdgM-00085-00017978-00018217 slight angle so if you don't Eric's work
cndrPr_FdgM-00086-00018218-00018469 there so achieve and achieve will move
cndrPr_FdgM-00087-00018470-00018778 them for anyone of any age can do a ring
cndrPr_FdgM-00088-00018779-00018939 row provided Evan go any any injuries
cndrPr_FdgM-00089-00018940-00019153 that could stop they're doing it the
cndrPr_FdgM-00090-00019154-00019519 same for less their hands down walk it
cndrPr_FdgM-00091-00019520-00019741 could be something as scalar down to
cndrPr_FdgM-00092-00019742-00019881 something like a bear crawl is another
cndrPr_FdgM-00093-00019882-00020047 variation of that so there's always an
cndrPr_FdgM-00094-00020048-00020286 option to scale it in terms of being fit
cndrPr_FdgM-00095-00020287-00020572 enough well you don't have to complete
cndrPr_FdgM-00096-00020573-00020859 every workout to the maximum again level
cndrPr_FdgM-00097-00020860-00021193 so yes everyone is fit enough for
cndrPr_FdgM-00098-00021194-00021522 CrossFit and there's no reason
cndrPr_FdgM-00099-00021523-00021721 physically why for people why people
cndrPr_FdgM-00100-00021722-00021949 can't just come in and train straight
cndrPr_FdgM-00101-00021950-00022044 away once they've gone through off an
cndrPr_FdgM-00102-00022045-00022183 extra program and learn how to move
cndrPr_FdgM-00103-00022184-00022350 properly while they can't come and train
cndrPr_FdgM-00104-00022351-00022540 because our coaches and myself will
cndrPr_FdgM-00105-00022541-00022780 scale everything to fit those people so
cndrPr_FdgM-00106-00022781-00023040 they're level not only of strength and
cndrPr_FdgM-00107-00023041-00023208 mobility but also their level of ability
cndrPr_FdgM-00108-00023209-00023355 in others their technical abilities so
cndrPr_FdgM-00109-00023356-00023533 anyway we don't want do as complex and
cndrPr_FdgM-00110-00023534-00023781 movement as the other guys in terms of
cndrPr_FdgM-00111-00023782-00024175 whether you are mentally ready that's
cndrPr_FdgM-00112-00024176-00024537 different thing because some people just
cndrPr_FdgM-00113-00024538-00024759 need to build some confidence in what
cndrPr_FdgM-00114-00024760-00024915 they can do before they come and join a
cndrPr_FdgM-00115-00024916-00025062 class and that's just the personal thing
cndrPr_FdgM-00116-00025063-00025194 some people come in from no level of
cndrPr_FdgM-00117-00025195-00025339 fitness and come and train and be
cndrPr_FdgM-00118-00025340-00025497 absolutely fine and other people they
cndrPr_FdgM-00119-00025498-00025789 just need to build up that that mental
cndrPr_FdgM-00120-00025789-00025947 side so by doing some personal training
cndrPr_FdgM-00121-00025948-00026139 they're gonna get themselves in division
cndrPr_FdgM-00122-00026140-00026242 where they're moving more proficiently
cndrPr_FdgM-00123-00026243-00026364 they're feeling a bit more confident
cndrPr_FdgM-00124-00026365-00026557 about themselves about the moves about
cndrPr_FdgM-00125-00026558-00026697 their body and then
cndrPr_FdgM-00126-00026698-00026949 to class but it in terms of if you came
cndrPr_FdgM-00127-00026950-00027117 in as a great beginner everyone were
cndrPr_FdgM-00128-00027118-00027336 welcomed with open arms we'd get the
cndrPr_FdgM-00129-00027337-00027441 workout scale for you and you'd be
cndrPr_FdgM-00130-00027442-00027630 absolutely fine but it's again some
cndrPr_FdgM-00131-00027631-00027786 people need the extra level of training
cndrPr_FdgM-00132-00027787-00027972 and prefer to come unis or a higher
cndrPr_FdgM-00133-00027973-00028206 level but you don't have to you can come
cndrPr_FdgM-00134-00028207-00028362 in at whatever level you like and you're
cndrPr_FdgM-00135-00028363-00028548 gonna get huge amounts of benefits and
cndrPr_FdgM-00136-00028549-00028743 actually the lower level you start at
cndrPr_FdgM-00137-00028744-00028914 the bigger those benefits are going to
cndrPr_FdgM-00138-00028914-00029016 be because you're going to have that
cndrPr_FdgM-00139-00029017-00029361 massive boost initially in your training
cndrPr_FdgM-00140-00029362-00029601 when you first start so everyone is fit
cndrPr_FdgM-00141-00029602-00029789 enough across to it I don't care who you
cndrPr_FdgM-00142-00029791-00030120 are there's no excuse for you not to
cndrPr_FdgM-00143-00030120-00030255 come and try it out
cndrPr_FdgM-00144-00030256-00030657 that's the question number one question
cndrPr_FdgM-00145-00030658-00031230 number two is and mainly from girls and
cndrPr_FdgM-00146-00031231-00031374 I was a little bit before but I was like
cndrPr_FdgM-00147-00031375-00031752 it won't lifting weights doing Crossfit
cndrPr_FdgM-00148-00031752-00032391 make me bulky now I've learned a little
cndrPr_FdgM-00149-00032392-00032535 bit since the last video of maybe how to
cndrPr_FdgM-00150-00032536-00032796 answer this question with another
cndrPr_FdgM-00151-00032797-00032976 question to it to the person who asked
cndrPr_FdgM-00152-00032977-00033272 me it and I'll see a bit better is that
cndrPr_FdgM-00153-00033273-00033504 when someone ask me I want to know what
cndrPr_FdgM-00154-00033505-00033627 they want to look like so I say well
cndrPr_FdgM-00155-00033628-00033774 what what do you want to look like who
cndrPr_FdgM-00156-00033775-00033936 do you want look like you know what what
cndrPr_FdgM-00157-00033937-00034233 physique do you admire and you know
cndrPr_FdgM-00158-00034234-00034449 there's so maybe talk about physic they
cndrPr_FdgM-00159-00034450-00034622 want or what they're looking to do and
cndrPr_FdgM-00160-00034623-00035022 the answer to all that is well if you
cndrPr_FdgM-00161-00035023-00035277 want to be toned okay which everyone
cndrPr_FdgM-00162-00035278-00035448 talks about I want to be toned on a
cndrPr_FdgM-00163-00035449-00036044 shape-up you need to build muscle I
cndrPr_FdgM-00164-00036045-00036462 don't care who you are or what you do if
cndrPr_FdgM-00165-00036463-00036696 you want to be toned and you want to be
cndrPr_FdgM-00166-00036697-00037103 shapely and not saggy you need to build
cndrPr_FdgM-00167-00037104-00037455 muscle as a girl you don't have enough
cndrPr_FdgM-00168-00037456-00037877 testosterone to get big and bulky
cndrPr_FdgM-00169-00037878-00038328 without a huge amount of effort with the
cndrPr_FdgM-00170-00038329-00038691 sole intent of getting that way and
cndrPr_FdgM-00171-00038692-00039042 that's kind of where we need to
cndrPr_FdgM-00172-00039043-00039270 clarifies that the only way people get
cndrPr_FdgM-00173-00039271-00039539 bulky well there's a couple ways I see
cndrPr_FdgM-00174-00039540-00039747 the only way you can do there's a few
cndrPr_FdgM-00175-00039748-00039960 ways you can get bulky doing Crossfit as
cndrPr_FdgM-00176-00039961-00040080 a girl because obviously
cndrPr_FdgM-00177-00040081-00040584 the testosterone levels of guys so some
cndrPr_FdgM-00178-00040585-00040800 obviously some girls have genetic
cndrPr_FdgM-00179-00040801-00041022 variances so there we've some people
cndrPr_FdgM-00180-00041023-00041247 that are more predisposed but generally
cndrPr_FdgM-00181-00041248-00041472 they'll already show those signs that
cndrPr_FdgM-00182-00041473-00041664 there already be sort of quite sort of
cndrPr_FdgM-00183-00041665-00042125 big and strong and that will just be
cndrPr_FdgM-00184-00042126-00042414 aided on on its way by bio trading but
cndrPr_FdgM-00185-00042415-00042627 there's only a few that would be I'd say
cndrPr_FdgM-00186-00042628-00042846 a very small minority of girls that have
cndrPr_FdgM-00187-00042847-00043262 that trade already for most people for
cndrPr_FdgM-00188-00043263-00043569 99.9% of people that come you don't have
cndrPr_FdgM-00189-00043570-00043836 that genetic predisposition so the only
cndrPr_FdgM-00190-00043837-00044142 way you're gonna get bulky and I'm
cndrPr_FdgM-00191-00044143-00044346 talking like you know like people didn't
cndrPr_FdgM-00192-00044347-00044433 like the imagine when they watch the
cndrPr_FdgM-00193-00044434-00044583 people in the CrossFit Games okay let's
cndrPr_FdgM-00194-00044584-00044931 do that is by either taking a crapload
cndrPr_FdgM-00195-00044932-00045336 of steroids and training hard or
cndrPr_FdgM-00196-00045337-00045849 training bloody hard and being super
cndrPr_FdgM-00197-00045850-00046107 super super super super lean because
cndrPr_FdgM-00198-00046108-00046227 that's the only thing to Rea they sort
cndrPr_FdgM-00199-00046228-00046374 of you know when you see building the
cndrPr_FdgM-00200-00046375-00046512 CrossFit Games what y'all gotta remember
cndrPr_FdgM-00201-00046513-00046704 as well is that they are also make a
cndrPr_FdgM-00202-00046705-00046848 pumped okay they've done a massive
cndrPr_FdgM-00203-00046849-00047079 workout so all there was as a pumped in
cndrPr_FdgM-00204-00047080-00047217 really vascular because the Bloods
cndrPr_FdgM-00205-00047218-00047400 rushing free their muscles so I mean any
cndrPr_FdgM-00206-00047401-00047508 of you that have done it work and the
cndrPr_FdgM-00207-00047509-00047601 problem is that people ask these
cndrPr_FdgM-00208-00047602-00047736 questions haven't done a proper workout
cndrPr_FdgM-00209-00047737-00048111 before in their life so they've never
cndrPr_FdgM-00210-00048112-00048302 had that feeling of sort of the pump
cndrPr_FdgM-00211-00048303-00048438 that you get immediately after workout
cndrPr_FdgM-00212-00048439-00048684 where everything swole as the hash tag
cndrPr_FdgM-00213-00048685-00048954 is nowadays so they kind of don't
cndrPr_FdgM-00214-00048955-00049074 understand that that's when they're
cndrPr_FdgM-00215-00049075-00049230 seeing these people in in the in the
cndrPr_FdgM-00216-00049231-00049359 heat of competition that's not what they
cndrPr_FdgM-00217-00049360-00049533 look like necessarily every single day
cndrPr_FdgM-00218-00049534-00049656 and also these guys you know and the
cndrPr_FdgM-00219-00049657-00049785 composition they're they're prepped and
cndrPr_FdgM-00220-00049786-00049887 they've been training up to that point
cndrPr_FdgM-00221-00049888-00050240 they're at their absolute physical peak
cndrPr_FdgM-00222-00050241-00050481 but if you want to be told if you want
cndrPr_FdgM-00223-00050482-00050874 to build shape and tone lift you know
cndrPr_FdgM-00224-00050875-00051137 your bottom stop everything sagging you
cndrPr_FdgM-00225-00051138-00051219 need muscle
cndrPr_FdgM-00226-00051220-00051351 you gotta basically what's your body
cndrPr_FdgM-00227-00051352-00051608 made of you've got internal organs okay
cndrPr_FdgM-00228-00051609-00051723 well they're not gonna give you the
cndrPr_FdgM-00229-00051724-00051900 shape and tone again unless your your
cndrPr_FdgM-00230-00051901-00052115 body to look like the shape your kidneys
cndrPr_FdgM-00231-00052116-00052560 you've got skeleton and trust me the
cndrPr_FdgM-00232-00052561-00052779 skeleton does not have great shape and
cndrPr_FdgM-00233-00052779-00053042 tone so we don't want the skeleton note
cndrPr_FdgM-00234-00053044-00053346 and then we've got that all right
cndrPr_FdgM-00235-00053347-00053729 so if you've got zero muscle or very low
cndrPr_FdgM-00236-00053730-00053903 muscle and you Scott
cndrPr_FdgM-00237-00053904-00054176 bones are you got skin as well of course
cndrPr_FdgM-00238-00054177-00054597 bones fact and skin it's basically like
cndrPr_FdgM-00239-00054598-00054795 you've just poured a jellyfish over a
cndrPr_FdgM-00240-00054796-00054927 skeleton and that's kind of what you're
cndrPr_FdgM-00241-00054928-00055101 going to end up looking like you gonna
cndrPr_FdgM-00242-00055102-00055379 be saggy and loose and it's not a good
cndrPr_FdgM-00243-00055380-00055554 look so you have to have lots of tone
cndrPr_FdgM-00244-00055554-00055679 you have to have a so Tony if to build
cndrPr_FdgM-00245-00055680-00055953 muscle when you're training to get the
cndrPr_FdgM-00246-00055954-00056289 tone you want and if you are training
cndrPr_FdgM-00247-00056290-00056692 three four times a week for one hour
cndrPr_FdgM-00248-00056694-00057245 session as a girl you're not gonna get
cndrPr_FdgM-00249-00057246-00057594 all right you have to be putting in some
cndrPr_FdgM-00250-00057595-00058095 serious powers to get the way the girls
cndrPr_FdgM-00251-00058096-00058217 that you may be in for scream look I
cndrPr_FdgM-00252-00058219-00058347 mean they're training five hours a day
cndrPr_FdgM-00253-00058348-00058730 six hours a day so obviously they're
cndrPr_FdgM-00254-00058732-00058863 going to build as much much as they can
cndrPr_FdgM-00255-00058864-00059054 possibly get and that is the absolute
cndrPr_FdgM-00256-00059055-00059373 extreme we have you know members and
cndrPr_FdgM-00257-00059374-00059652 coaches here the Train five six days a
cndrPr_FdgM-00258-00059653-00059867 week one and a half hours or so they and
cndrPr_FdgM-00259-00059869-00060096 they've got great time great shape but
cndrPr_FdgM-00260-00060097-00060414 they're not pokey in any way and I think
cndrPr_FdgM-00261-00060415-00060540 there's that there's always that fear so
cndrPr_FdgM-00262-00060541-00060762 weights will not make you bulky weights
cndrPr_FdgM-00263-00060763-00061110 or like you toned just doing cardio will
cndrPr_FdgM-00264-00061111-00061416 make you skinny fat hey what are we
cndrPr_FdgM-00265-00061416-00061730 asking fat I mean you're gonna lose body
cndrPr_FdgM-00266-00061732-00062007 weight but you gonna have no tone so
cndrPr_FdgM-00267-00062008-00062169 you're just gonna be skinny and loose
cndrPr_FdgM-00268-00062170-00062405 and there might be a great looking at my
cndrPr_FdgM-00269-00062407-00062514 boy you want to look for that's
cndrPr_FdgM-00270-00062515-00062601 absolutely fine
cndrPr_FdgM-00271-00062602-00062886 but if you're looking for Tony generally
cndrPr_FdgM-00272-00062887-00062994 want to be toned then you need to be
cndrPr_FdgM-00273-00062995-00063198 doing weight so don't don't think I'll
cndrPr_FdgM-00274-00063199-00063324 come here and make dorky it's not
cndrPr_FdgM-00275-00063325-00063479 happening especially the most people
cndrPr_FdgM-00276-00063480-00063609 that asked a question their intent is
cndrPr_FdgM-00277-00063610-00063765 there may be train twice or three times
cndrPr_FdgM-00278-00063766-00064074 a week so nigh on impossible for that's
cndrPr_FdgM-00279-00064075-00064287 happening and I know and the only way
cndrPr_FdgM-00280-00064288-00064539 you're gonna be bulky if you're training
cndrPr_FdgM-00281-00064540-00064713 that over that for you could that that
cndrPr_FdgM-00282-00064714-00065220 infrequently is the bulk is gonna come
cndrPr_FdgM-00283-00065221-00065421 from you being fat on top of that yeah
cndrPr_FdgM-00284-00065422-00065598 so fat on top of that muscle it's gonna
cndrPr_FdgM-00285-00065599-00065766 make you bulkier so if you lose that fat
cndrPr_FdgM-00286-00065767-00065988 you're gonna be toned so you got to make
cndrPr_FdgM-00287-00065989-00066252 sure that you know what you're talking
cndrPr_FdgM-00288-00066253-00066420 about when you're asking these questions
cndrPr_FdgM-00289-00066421-00066543 so you know that the answer you're gonna
cndrPr_FdgM-00290-00066544-00066609 get it's going to be
cndrPr_FdgM-00291-00066610-00066893 me telling you that no that happen the
cndrPr_FdgM-00292-00066894-00067029 guys obviously there's testosterone in
cndrPr_FdgM-00293-00067030-00067149 there as well if you're a young guy you
cndrPr_FdgM-00294-00067150-00067422 gotta try and get rid of UI HGH I'm
cndrPr_FdgM-00295-00067423-00067562 eager human growth for them still in
cndrPr_FdgM-00296-00067563-00067832 your system so you will get bigger doing
cndrPr_FdgM-00297-00067833-00068024 that but again if you want to get
cndrPr_FdgM-00298-00068025-00068298 breathing bulky and stuff they need to
cndrPr_FdgM-00299-00068299-00068511 do more believe and start training so
cndrPr_FdgM-00300-00068512-00068712 guys if you want to get that way then
cndrPr_FdgM-00301-00068713-00068937 you can train specifically to help that
cndrPr_FdgM-00302-00068938-00069123 out so you do on top of your cross feed
cndrPr_FdgM-00303-00069124-00069297 to your accessory work as well to get
cndrPr_FdgM-00304-00069298-00069396 big look and if you just want to be
cndrPr_FdgM-00305-00069397-00069666 bodybuilding then CrossFit is not the
cndrPr_FdgM-00306-00069667-00069705 answer
cndrPr_FdgM-00307-00069706-00069822 go and do some body running to you if
cndrPr_FdgM-00308-00069823-00069972 that's all you want to look is just get
cndrPr_FdgM-00309-00069973-00070250 bigger and bulkier then they maybe need
cndrPr_FdgM-00310-00070251-00070430 to look at something else in terms of
cndrPr_FdgM-00311-00070431-00070560 your training to get that look because
cndrPr_FdgM-00312-00070561-00070899 it's not the optimum way to get big and
cndrPr_FdgM-00313-00070900-00071043 bulky it's not CrossFit I want to tell
cndrPr_FdgM-00314-00071044-00071241 you the honest it's just doing
cndrPr_FdgM-00315-00071242-00071393 bodybuilding training and that's kind of
cndrPr_FdgM-00316-00071394-00071549 far the most boring things you could
cndrPr_FdgM-00317-00071550-00071806 possibly do so but if you enjoy that
cndrPr_FdgM-00318-00071807-00072192 next last question how much weight
cndrPr_FdgM-00319-00072193-00072443 should I expect to lose that is a great
cndrPr_FdgM-00320-00072444-00072810 question and it's one that I often are
cndrPr_FdgM-00321-00072811-00073150 depending on what mood I mean maybe stay
cndrPr_FdgM-00322-00073151-00073574 none and then sometimes I say it depends
cndrPr_FdgM-00323-00073575-00074046 and it does depend and it also it
cndrPr_FdgM-00324-00074047-00074201 doesn't massively on a couple of things
cndrPr_FdgM-00325-00074202-00074413 how often you get a train
cndrPr_FdgM-00326-00074414-00075005 how's your diet so and if you are
cndrPr_FdgM-00327-00075006-00075218 training what is your current body fat
cndrPr_FdgM-00328-00075219-00075486 percentages at the moment because what
cndrPr_FdgM-00329-00075487-00075648 happened when you train especially when
cndrPr_FdgM-00330-00075649-00075926 you train when you're first starting
cndrPr_FdgM-00331-00075927-00076005 you're gonna get
cndrPr_FdgM-00332-00076006-00076086 why are you getting it muscle growth
cndrPr_FdgM-00333-00076087-00076193 throughout the time but you're getting
cndrPr_FdgM-00334-00076194-00076359 it the best results when your body is
cndrPr_FdgM-00335-00076360-00076568 adapting to this new stimulus that
cndrPr_FdgM-00336-00076569-00076751 you've presented it so you're gonna get
cndrPr_FdgM-00337-00076752-00077022 definitely muscle growth and as you may
cndrPr_FdgM-00338-00077023-00077093 or may not know
cndrPr_FdgM-00339-00077094-00077357 mustard is quite a bit denser than fact
cndrPr_FdgM-00340-00077358-00077655 so when you build muscle that weight
cndrPr_FdgM-00341-00077656-00077888 will come on to your body what makes you
cndrPr_FdgM-00342-00077889-00078194 look better but you will have muscle
cndrPr_FdgM-00343-00078195-00078356 tone and you have to take that interest
cndrPr_FdgM-00344-00078357-00078431 in duration when you're looking at
cndrPr_FdgM-00345-00078432-00078537 weight loss if you've got a new training
cndrPr_FdgM-00346-00078538-00078812 regime because you will gain muscle you
cndrPr_FdgM-00347-00078813-00079142 hopefully if your diet is in place
cndrPr_FdgM-00348-00079143-00079311 because there's no diet in place and you
cndrPr_FdgM-00349-00079312-00079406 probably won't lose weight because
cndrPr_FdgM-00350-00079407-00079550 wyverns most time it will put thing on a
cndrPr_FdgM-00351-00079551-00079734 new training regime and they eat more to
cndrPr_FdgM-00352-00079735-00079892 compensate because they're hungry from
cndrPr_FdgM-00353-00079893-00079930 training
cndrPr_FdgM-00354-00079931-00080209 so it does massively coming to nutrition
cndrPr_FdgM-00355-00080210-00080488 nutrition is probably 60% of that but
cndrPr_FdgM-00356-00080489-00080662 you're gonna gain muscle and you're
cndrPr_FdgM-00357-00080663-00080905 gonna lose that way so you're gonna get
cndrPr_FdgM-00358-00080906-00081082 muscle weight lose that weight so there
cndrPr_FdgM-00359-00081083-00081280 will be a transition where you will lose
cndrPr_FdgM-00360-00081281-00081454 you know depending fit is what you
cndrPr_FdgM-00361-00081455-00081625 should lose some weight but really I
cndrPr_FdgM-00362-00081626-00081765 look - look people's body composition
cndrPr_FdgM-00363-00081766-00082089 okay so only really in people that are
cndrPr_FdgM-00364-00082090-00082336 more overweight people will obviously
cndrPr_FdgM-00365-00082337-00082474 see if more significant or so they've
cndrPr_FdgM-00366-00082475-00082615 got higher higher amounts of fat sorry
cndrPr_FdgM-00367-00082616-00082888 so so high percentage of people will see
cndrPr_FdgM-00368-00082889-00083011 a greater degree in weight loss because
cndrPr_FdgM-00369-00083012-00083224 they'll have more fat to lose but if
cndrPr_FdgM-00370-00083225-00083437 you're in a sort of lower body fat
cndrPr_FdgM-00371-00083438-00083647 percentage or or medium body fat
cndrPr_FdgM-00372-00083648-00083851 percentage to say then that's gonna be
cndrPr_FdgM-00373-00083852-00084393 slightly slower and with all training I
cndrPr_FdgM-00374-00084394-00084832 like the philosophy that the longer
cndrPr_FdgM-00375-00084833-00085336 something takes to to be attained the
cndrPr_FdgM-00376-00085337-00085516 harder that will be all the longer
cndrPr_FdgM-00377-00085517-00085660 they'll take to go away again so in
cndrPr_FdgM-00378-00085661-00085951 other words if you lose if you lose a
cndrPr_FdgM-00379-00085952-00086253 stone over three years you've lost it by
cndrPr_FdgM-00380-00086254-00086677 making changes to your lifestyle you've
cndrPr_FdgM-00381-00086678-00086887 you've implemented good practice over
cndrPr_FdgM-00382-00086888-00086995 that period of time on it and it's
cndrPr_FdgM-00383-00086996-00087160 something that's stuck over a period of
cndrPr_FdgM-00384-00087161-00087444 time to lose that weight so therefore
cndrPr_FdgM-00385-00087445-00087727 it's gonna be unlikely that way it's
cndrPr_FdgM-00386-00087728-00087850 gonna go on quickly because you've made
cndrPr_FdgM-00387-00087851-00088045 that adaptation and it's lasted you know
cndrPr_FdgM-00388-00088046-00088257 four to three years so therefore that
cndrPr_FdgM-00389-00088258-00088450 weight loss will stick with you because
cndrPr_FdgM-00390-00088451-00088594 you've formed great habits over that
cndrPr_FdgM-00391-00088595-00088981 time conversely if you lose a stone in a
cndrPr_FdgM-00392-00088982-00089191 month you've probably gone on uh some
cndrPr_FdgM-00393-00089192-00089539 extreme juice fast diet or intermittent
cndrPr_FdgM-00394-00089540-00089743 fasting or something that's fairly
cndrPr_FdgM-00395-00089744-00089920 extreme that's unsustainable over a long
cndrPr_FdgM-00396-00089921-00090136 period of time and of and that weight
cndrPr_FdgM-00397-00090137-00090274 loss probably isn't fat loss it's
cndrPr_FdgM-00398-00090275-00090502 probably lost for you glycogen stores
cndrPr_FdgM-00399-00090503-00090777 and maybe water loss as well so that way
cndrPr_FdgM-00400-00090778-00091006 and you haven't formed good habits so
cndrPr_FdgM-00401-00091007-00091123 what's gonna happen as soon as you stop
cndrPr_FdgM-00402-00091124-00091300 this crazy diet you're gonna put the
cndrPr_FdgM-00403-00091301-00091381 weight back on I've talked about
cndrPr_FdgM-00404-00091382-00091800 moderation is it works that I think
cndrPr_FdgM-00405-00091801-00092047 there's a counter-argument to what I had
cndrPr_FdgM-00406-00092048-00092368 said before because I think yes we need
cndrPr_FdgM-00407-00092369-00092497 to see results in a training so if
cndrPr_FdgM-00408-00092498-00092601 you're not seeing real it's quite
cndrPr_FdgM-00409-00092602-00092806 difficult to stick to anything but the
cndrPr_FdgM-00410-00092807-00093013 optimum the optimum are talking it once
cndrPr_FdgM-00411-00093014-00093232 you've got that initial boost of maybe
cndrPr_FdgM-00412-00093233-00093307 losing that
cndrPr_FdgM-00413-00093308-00093467 first bit of weight from doing something
cndrPr_FdgM-00414-00093468-00093740 like in the myth of the net then you
cndrPr_FdgM-00415-00093741-00093848 need to find the solution that's going
cndrPr_FdgM-00416-00093849-00094023 to un stick with long term because you
cndrPr_FdgM-00417-00094024-00094207 need to have something now to talk about
cndrPr_FdgM-00418-00094208-00094367 having an exit strategy for it diets you
cndrPr_FdgM-00419-00094368-00094472 need to have something that's going to
cndrPr_FdgM-00420-00094473-00094582 sustain you over that period of time
cndrPr_FdgM-00421-00094583-00094778 because that weight loss that you get if
cndrPr_FdgM-00422-00094779-00095036 you've only doing it on by doing you
cndrPr_FdgM-00423-00095037-00095234 know a change of your diet keto or
cndrPr_FdgM-00424-00095235-00095353 anything like that
cndrPr_FdgM-00425-00095354-00095579 if you've got no excess actually and if
cndrPr_FdgM-00426-00095580-00095786 you don't have a long-term plan of sort
cndrPr_FdgM-00427-00095787-00095885 of getting more weight loss over time
cndrPr_FdgM-00428-00095886-00096088 then you'll put that weight back on
cndrPr_FdgM-00429-00096089-00096571 so will you lose weight during CrossFit
cndrPr_FdgM-00430-00096572-00096785 possibly if that's your goal and if
cndrPr_FdgM-00431-00096786-00096937 you're gonna put in nutritional side of
cndrPr_FdgM-00432-00096938-00097253 things then you will if you just do
cndrPr_FdgM-00433-00097254-00097474 CrossFit and you expect the way to fall
cndrPr_FdgM-00434-00097475-00097693 off it's probably unlikely and that's
cndrPr_FdgM-00435-00097694-00097804 the same with I'm not saying this as a
cndrPr_FdgM-00436-00097805-00097906 CrossFit thing it's the same with
cndrPr_FdgM-00437-00097907-00098149 anything you do activity wise exercise
cndrPr_FdgM-00438-00098150-00098467 wise is that if you just implement the
cndrPr_FdgM-00439-00098468-00098707 activity and you don't make changes to
cndrPr_FdgM-00440-00098708-00099292 your lifestyle unless you are more
cndrPr_FdgM-00441-00099293-00099406 overweight I suppose if you hire
cndrPr_FdgM-00442-00099407-00099523 companies back then you have an initial
cndrPr_FdgM-00443-00099524-00099710 bit where your body is adapting to the
cndrPr_FdgM-00444-00099711-00099805 stimulus that you all lose weight
cndrPr_FdgM-00445-00099806-00100004 initially but quite soon a plateau are
cndrPr_FdgM-00446-00100005-00100117 now way lost with stuff because your
cndrPr_FdgM-00447-00100118-00100298 body will adapt to that and probably
cndrPr_FdgM-00448-00100299-00100606 your calories will change to compensate
cndrPr_FdgM-00449-00100607-00101060 for the increase in activity so costs
cndrPr_FdgM-00450-00101061-00101210 people I met you lose weight but at
cndrPr_FdgM-00451-00101211-00101419 CrossFit alongside a healthy lifestyle
cndrPr_FdgM-00452-00101420-00101494 will make you lose weight and that's
cndrPr_FdgM-00453-00101495-00101741 important because I think I think it
cndrPr_FdgM-00454-00101742-00101869 does help to lose weight because I think
cndrPr_FdgM-00455-00101870-00102148 what once you have one healthy habit in
cndrPr_FdgM-00456-00102149-00102373 your life so with my PT clients I love
cndrPr_FdgM-00457-00102374-00102538 to not talk about food initially I'll
cndrPr_FdgM-00458-00102539-00102715 just say that's can you train this first
cndrPr_FdgM-00459-00102716-00102844 of all let's get you doing a regular
cndrPr_FdgM-00460-00102845-00103042 consistent training and we want to get
cndrPr_FdgM-00461-00103043-00103148 that consistency and so if you're
cndrPr_FdgM-00462-00103149-00103435 training consistently that's one habit
cndrPr_FdgM-00463-00103436-00103606 you can form once that habits form we
cndrPr_FdgM-00464-00103607-00103753 start talking about hydration and we
cndrPr_FdgM-00465-00103754-00103927 talk about this amazing video previously
cndrPr_FdgM-00466-00103928-00104080 about the best ways to get fitter and
cndrPr_FdgM-00467-00104081-00104266 then we can layer it on one step at a
cndrPr_FdgM-00468-00104267-00104501 time but at some point did you have to
cndrPr_FdgM-00469-00104502-00104635 hit that nutritionists art because that
cndrPr_FdgM-00470-00104636-00104836 is the biggest point and not just for
cndrPr_FdgM-00471-00104838-00104989 weight loss but also for performance
cndrPr_FdgM-00472-00104990-00105269 because you need the right mix of macros
cndrPr_FdgM-00473-00105270-00105431 to get the most high performers to get
cndrPr_FdgM-00474-00105432-00105569 the most that your energy levels not
cndrPr_FdgM-00475-00105570-00105709 just in your training but in life as
cndrPr_FdgM-00476-00105710-00105826 well if you want everything to sort of
cndrPr_FdgM-00477-00105827-00106111 be performing at an optimum then we need
cndrPr_FdgM-00478-00106113-00106390 to look at that as well so hopefully
cndrPr_FdgM-00479-00106391-00106595 I've rambled a bit there but hopefully
cndrPr_FdgM-00480-00106596-00106735 that ours is
cndrPr_FdgM-00481-00106736-00106919 the three questions to get my asked most
cndrPr_FdgM-00482-00106920-00107219 frequently and my consequence across the
cndrPr_FdgM-00483-00107220-00107606 consultation and if you have any
cndrPr_FdgM-00484-00107607-00107723 questions that you'd like me to answer
cndrPr_FdgM-00485-00107724-00107963 in one of these videos which I'm going
cndrPr_FdgM-00486-00107964-00108143 to make into a podcast guys you soon cuz
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d2DuHEEbvU8-00000-00000058-00000278 allegations that the United States
d2DuHEEbvU8-00001-00000279-00000601 military used biological weapons in the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00002-00000602-00000989 Korean War 1952-53 were raised by the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00003-00000990-00001205 governments of People's Republic of
d2DuHEEbvU8-00004-00001206-00001479 China the Soviet Union and North Korea
d2DuHEEbvU8-00005-00001480-00001946 the claims were first raised in 1951 the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00006-00001947-00002189 story was covered by the worldwide press
d2DuHEEbvU8-00007-00002190-00002385 and led to a highly publicized
d2DuHEEbvU8-00008-00002386-00002864 international investigation in 1952 US
d2DuHEEbvU8-00009-00002865-00003118 Secretary of State Dean Acheson and
d2DuHEEbvU8-00010-00003119-00003377 other US and allied government officials
d2DuHEEbvU8-00011-00003378-00003672 denounced the allegations as a hoax
d2DuHEEbvU8-00012-00003673-00003929 subsequent scholars are split about the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00013-00003929-00004522 truth of the claims
d2DuHEEbvU8-00014-00004523-00005066 topic background
d2DuHEEbvU8-00015-00005067-00005372 until the end of World War two Japan
d2DuHEEbvU8-00016-00005373-00005642 operated a covert biological and
d2DuHEEbvU8-00017-00005643-00005831 chemical warfare research and
d2DuHEEbvU8-00018-00005832-00006179 development unit called unit 731 in
d2DuHEEbvU8-00019-00006180-00006529 Harbin the unit's activities including
d2DuHEEbvU8-00020-00006530-00006806 human experimentation were documented by
d2DuHEEbvU8-00021-00006806-00006965 the Khabarovsk war crime trials
d2DuHEEbvU8-00022-00006966-00007220 conducted by the Soviet Union in
d2DuHEEbvU8-00023-00007220-00007670 December 1949 however at that time the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00024-00007670-00007919 US government described the Khabarovsk
d2DuHEEbvU8-00025-00007920-00008183 trials as vicious and unfounded
d2DuHEEbvU8-00026-00008184-00008498 propaganda it was later revealed that
d2DuHEEbvU8-00027-00008499-00008705 the accusations made against the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00028-00008706-00009049 Japanese military were correct the US
d2DuHEEbvU8-00029-00009050-00009260 government had taken over the research
d2DuHEEbvU8-00030-00009261-00009449 at the end of the war and had then
d2DuHEEbvU8-00031-00009450-00009688 covered up the program on the 30th of
d2DuHEEbvU8-00032-00009689-00010027 June 1950 soon after the outbreak of the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00033-00010028-00010240 Korean War the US defense secretary
d2DuHEEbvU8-00034-00010241-00010532 George Marshall received the report of
d2DuHEEbvU8-00035-00010533-00010805 the Committee on chemical biological and
d2DuHEEbvU8-00036-00010806-00011093 Radiological warfare and recommendations
d2DuHEEbvU8-00037-00011094-00011351 which advocated urgent development of a
d2DuHEEbvU8-00038-00011352-00011635 biological weapons program the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00039-00011636-00011914 biological weapons research facility at
d2DuHEEbvU8-00040-00011915-00012173 Fort Dietrich in Maryland was expanded
d2DuHEEbvU8-00041-00012174-00012458 and a new one in Pine Bluff Arkansas was
d2DuHEEbvU8-00042-00012459-00013029 developed
d2DuHEEbvU8-00043-00013030-00013605 topic allegations
d2DuHEEbvU8-00044-00013606-00013965 during 1951 as the war turned against
d2DuHEEbvU8-00045-00013966-00014211 the United States the Chinese and North
d2DuHEEbvU8-00046-00014212-00014444 Koreans made vague allegations of
d2DuHEEbvU8-00047-00014445-00014661 biological warfare but these were not
d2DuHEEbvU8-00048-00014662-00015063 pursued General Matthew Ridgway United
d2DuHEEbvU8-00049-00015063-00015333 Nations commander in Korea denounced the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00050-00015334-00015768 initial charges as early as May 1951 he
d2DuHEEbvU8-00051-00015769-00015971 accused the Communists of spreading
d2DuHEEbvU8-00052-00015972-00016316 deliberate lies a few days later
d2DuHEEbvU8-00053-00016318-00016611 Vice Admiral Charles Turner joy repeated
d2DuHEEbvU8-00054-00016612-00016980 the denials on the 28th of January 1952
d2DuHEEbvU8-00055-00016981-00017230 the Chinese people's volunteer army
d2DuHEEbvU8-00056-00017231-00017463 headquarters received a report of a
d2DuHEEbvU8-00057-00017464-00017738 smallpox outbreak southeast of Incheon
d2DuHEEbvU8-00058-00017739-00018150 from February to March 1952 more
d2DuHEEbvU8-00059-00018151-00018419 bulletins reported disease outbreaks in
d2DuHEEbvU8-00060-00018420-00018705 the area of chorwon Pyongyang kim wa and
d2DuHEEbvU8-00061-00018706-00019041 even Manchuria the chinese soon became
d2DuHEEbvU8-00062-00019042-00019383 concerned when 13 korean and 16 chinese
d2DuHEEbvU8-00063-00019384-00019602 soldiers contracted cholera and the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00064-00019603-00019778 plague while another 44
d2DuHEEbvU8-00065-00019779-00020025 recently-deceased were tested positive
d2DuHEEbvU8-00066-00020026-00020346 for meningitis although the Chinese and
d2DuHEEbvU8-00067-00020347-00020586 the North Koreans did not know exactly
d2DuHEEbvU8-00068-00020587-00020831 how the soldiers contracted the diseases
d2DuHEEbvU8-00069-00020832-00021102 the suspicion soon fell on the Americans
d2DuHEEbvU8-00070-00021103-00021506 on the 22nd of February 1952 the North
d2DuHEEbvU8-00071-00021507-00021725 Korean Foreign Ministry made a formal
d2DuHEEbvU8-00072-00021726-00021972 allegation that American planes had been
d2DuHEEbvU8-00073-00021973-00022212 dropping infected insects onto North
d2DuHEEbvU8-00074-00022213-00022533 Korea this was immediately denied by the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00075-00022534-00022800 US government the accusation was
d2DuHEEbvU8-00076-00022801-00023037 supported by eyewitness accounts by the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00077-00023038-00023297 Australian reporter Wilfred burchett and
d2DuHEEbvU8-00078-00023298-00023646 others in June 1952 the United States
d2DuHEEbvU8-00079-00023647-00023877 proposed to the United Nations Security
d2DuHEEbvU8-00080-00023878-00024141 Council that the council request the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00081-00024142-00024390 International Red Cross investigate the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00082-00024391-00024747 allegations the Soviet Union vetoed the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00083-00024748-00025002 American resolution and along with its
d2DuHEEbvU8-00084-00025003-00025221 allies continued to insist on the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00085-00025222-00025444 veracity of the biological warfare
d2DuHEEbvU8-00086-00025445-00025859 accusations in February 1953 China and
d2DuHEEbvU8-00087-00025860-00026124 North Korea produced two captured US
d2DuHEEbvU8-00088-00026125-00026339 Marine Corps pilots to support the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00089-00026341-00026708 allegations Colonel Frank H Wabble was
d2DuHEEbvU8-00090-00026709-00026973 reported to have stated that the basic
d2DuHEEbvU8-00091-00026974-00027048 object
d2DuHEEbvU8-00092-00027049-00027249 was at that time to get under field
d2DuHEEbvU8-00093-00027250-00027480 conditions various elements of
d2DuHEEbvU8-00094-00027481-00027795 bacteriological warfare and possibly
d2DuHEEbvU8-00095-00027795-00028110 expand field tests at a later date into
d2DuHEEbvU8-00096-00028111-00028474 an element of regular combat operations
d2DuHEEbvU8-00097-00028475-00028733 Schwab L disclosed in his press
d2DuHEEbvU8-00098-00028734-00029049 statement that b-29s flew biological
d2DuHEEbvU8-00099-00029050-00029301 warfare missions to Korea from airfields
d2DuHEEbvU8-00100-00029302-00029592 in American occupied Okinawa starting in
d2DuHEEbvU8-00101-00029593-00030020 November 1951 other captured Americans
d2DuHEEbvU8-00102-00030022-00030252 such as Colonel Walker Mahurin made
d2DuHEEbvU8-00103-00030252-00030826 similar statements
d2DuHEEbvU8-00104-00030827-00031129 topic international scientific
d2DuHEEbvU8-00105-00031130-00031332 commission
d2DuHEEbvU8-00106-00031333-00031520 you
d2DuHEEbvU8-00107-00031520-00031793 when the International Red Cross and the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00108-00031794-00032008 World Health Organization ruled out
d2DuHEEbvU8-00109-00032010-00032249 biological warfare the Chinese
d2DuHEEbvU8-00110-00032250-00032458 government denounced this as Western
d2DuHEEbvU8-00111-00032460-00032714 bias and arranged an investigation by
d2DuHEEbvU8-00112-00032714-00032918 the Soviet affiliated World Peace
d2DuHEEbvU8-00113-00032919-00033257 Council the World Peace Council set up
d2DuHEEbvU8-00114-00033258-00033490 the international scientific Commission
d2DuHEEbvU8-00115-00033491-00033710 for the facts concerning bacterial
d2DuHEEbvU8-00116-00033711-00034007 warfare in China and Korea this
d2DuHEEbvU8-00117-00034008-00034184 Commission included several
d2DuHEEbvU8-00118-00034185-00034358 distinguished scientists including
d2DuHEEbvU8-00119-00034359-00034610 renowned British biochemist and
d2DuHEEbvU8-00120-00034611-00034846 psychologist Joseph Needham the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00121-00034847-00035114 Commission's findings also included
d2DuHEEbvU8-00122-00035115-00035374 eyewitnesses and testimony from doctors
d2DuHEEbvU8-00123-00035375-00035606 as well as for American Korean War
d2DuHEEbvU8-00124-00035607-00035861 prisoners who confirmed the u.s. use of
d2DuHEEbvU8-00125-00035862-00036182 biological warfare its final report
d2DuHEEbvU8-00126-00036183-00036542 which made on the 15th of September 1952
d2DuHEEbvU8-00127-00036543-00036812 was that the allegation was true that
d2DuHEEbvU8-00128-00036813-00037037 the US was indeed experimenting with
d2DuHEEbvU8-00129-00037038-00037327 biological weapons the report suggested
d2DuHEEbvU8-00130-00037328-00037880 a link to unit 731 former unit 731
d2DuHEEbvU8-00131-00037881-00038258 members Shiro Ishii massage iki tano and
d2DuHEEbvU8-00132-00038259-00038512 Ryoichi NIDA and other Japanese
d2DuHEEbvU8-00133-00038513-00038783 biological warfare experts were often
d2DuHEEbvU8-00134-00038784-00039104 named in the allegations former members
d2DuHEEbvU8-00135-00039105-00039461 of unit 731 were linked initially by a
d2DuHEEbvU8-00136-00039462-00039695 communist news agency to a freighter
d2DuHEEbvU8-00137-00039696-00039889 that allegedly carried them and all
d2DuHEEbvU8-00138-00039890-00040082 equipment necessary to mount a
d2DuHEEbvU8-00139-00040083-00040365 biological warfare campaign to Korea in
d2DuHEEbvU8-00140-00040366-00040765 1951 the Commission placed credence on
d2DuHEEbvU8-00141-00040766-00041021 allegations that Ishii made two visits
d2DuHEEbvU8-00142-00041022-00041377 to South Korea in early 1952 and another
d2DuHEEbvU8-00143-00041378-00041849 one in March 1953 Chinese experts still
d2DuHEEbvU8-00144-00041850-00042092 insist today that biological warfare
d2DuHEEbvU8-00145-00042093-00042382 weapons created in an American Japanese
d2DuHEEbvU8-00146-00042383-00042602 collaboration were used in the Korean
d2DuHEEbvU8-00147-00042603-00042937 episode citing the claims Ishii had
d2DuHEEbvU8-00148-00042938-00043189 visited South Korea the report stated
d2DuHEEbvU8-00149-00043190-00043523 whether occupation authorities in Japan
d2DuHEEbvU8-00150-00043524-00043787 had fostered his activities and whether
d2DuHEEbvU8-00151-00043788-00044051 the American Far Eastern Command was
d2DuHEEbvU8-00152-00044052-00044279 engaged in making use of methods
d2DuHEEbvU8-00153-00044280-00044549 essentially Japanese were questions
d2DuHEEbvU8-00154-00044550-00044758 which could hardly have been absent from
d2DuHEEbvU8-00155-00044759-00044825 the minds
d2DuHEEbvU8-00156-00044826-00045104 members of the Commission the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00157-00045105-00045386 International Association of democratic
d2DuHEEbvU8-00158-00045387-00045716 lawyers IADL publicized these claims in
d2DuHEEbvU8-00159-00045717-00046186 its 1952 report on us crimes in Korea as
d2DuHEEbvU8-00160-00046187-00046970 did u.s. journalist John W Powell
d2DuHEEbvU8-00161-00046971-00047520 topic the Sam's mission
d2DuHEEbvU8-00162-00047521-00047799 the Communists also alleged that US
d2DuHEEbvU8-00163-00047800-00048048 Brigadier General Crawford Sam's had
d2DuHEEbvU8-00164-00048049-00048234 carried out a secret mission behind
d2DuHEEbvU8-00165-00048235-00048531 their lines at Wonsan in March 1951
d2DuHEEbvU8-00166-00048532-00048893 testing biological weapons the US
d2DuHEEbvU8-00167-00048894-00049077 government said that he had actually
d2DuHEEbvU8-00168-00049078-00049349 been investigating a reported outbreak
d2DuHEEbvU8-00169-00049350-00049620 of bubonic plague in North Korea but had
d2DuHEEbvU8-00170-00049621-00049895 determined it was hemorrhagic smallpox
d2DuHEEbvU8-00171-00049896-00050174 Sam's mission had been launched from the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00172-00050175-00050658 US Navy's lcil - 1091 which had been
d2DuHEEbvU8-00173-00050659-00051005 converted to a laboratory ship in 1951
d2DuHEEbvU8-00174-00051006-00051320 during her time in Korea the ship was
d2DuHEEbvU8-00175-00051321-00051573 assigned as an epidemiological control
d2DuHEEbvU8-00176-00051574-00051842 ship for fleet epidemic disease control
d2DuHEEbvU8-00177-00051844-00052070 unit number one a part of the u.s.
d2DuHEEbvU8-00178-00052071-00052404 effort to combat malaria in Korea after
d2DuHEEbvU8-00179-00052404-00052671 covert missions in North Korea from
d2DuHEEbvU8-00180-00052672-00053175 October to September 1951 LS il 109 one
d2DuHEEbvU8-00181-00053176-00053424 was at coach do testing residents and
d2DuHEEbvU8-00182-00053425-00054091 refugees for malaria
d2DuHEEbvU8-00183-00054092-00054663 topic counterclaims
d2DuHEEbvU8-00184-00054664-00054944 the US and its allies responded by
d2DuHEEbvU8-00185-00054945-00055194 describing the allegations as a hoax
d2DuHEEbvU8-00186-00055195-00055580 the US government declared IADL to be a
d2DuHEEbvU8-00187-00055582-00055925 communist front organization since 1950
d2DuHEEbvU8-00188-00055926-00056247 and charged Powell with sedition upon
d2DuHEEbvU8-00189-00056248-00056519 release the prisoners of war repudiated
d2DuHEEbvU8-00190-00056520-00056705 their confessions which they said had
d2DuHEEbvU8-00191-00056707-00056979 been extracted by torture the American
d2DuHEEbvU8-00192-00056979-00057303 authorities also have continually denied
d2DuHEEbvU8-00193-00057304-00057594 the charges of post-war Japanese United
d2DuHEEbvU8-00194-00057595-00057878 States cooperation in biological warfare
d2DuHEEbvU8-00195-00057879-00058128 developments an Australian colleague
d2DuHEEbvU8-00196-00058129-00058379 Dennis Warner went so far as to suggest
d2DuHEEbvU8-00197-00058380-00058607 that the story had been concocted by
d2DuHEEbvU8-00198-00058608-00058841 Wilfred Burchett as part of his alleged
d2DuHEEbvU8-00199-00058842-00059255 role as a KGB agent of influence warner
d2DuHEEbvU8-00200-00059257-00059438 pointed out the similarity of the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00201-00059439-00059703 allegations to a science-fiction story
d2DuHEEbvU8-00202-00059704-00059949 by Jack London a favorite author of
d2DuHEEbvU8-00203-00059950-00060219 virgins however the notion that Burchett
d2DuHEEbvU8-00204-00060220-00060588 originated the hoax has been decisively
d2DuHEEbvU8-00205-00060589-00060822 refuted by one of his most trenchant
d2DuHEEbvU8-00206-00060823-00060879 critics
d2DuHEEbvU8-00207-00060879-00061082 Tibor mary mary worked as a
d2DuHEEbvU8-00208-00061083-00061313 correspondent for hungary during the war
d2DuHEEbvU8-00209-00061314-00061538 but fled the country after the abortive
d2DuHEEbvU8-00210-00061539-00061768 uprising of 1956
d2DuHEEbvU8-00211-00061769-00062081 now his staunch anti-communist he has
d2DuHEEbvU8-00212-00062082-00062306 confirmed that he saw clusters of flies
d2DuHEEbvU8-00213-00062307-00062651 crawling on ice Marais has argued the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00214-00062652-00062871 evidence was the result of an elaborate
d2DuHEEbvU8-00215-00062872-00063129 conspiracy now somehow or other these
d2DuHEEbvU8-00216-00063129-00063491 flies must have been brought there the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00217-00063492-00063675 work must have been carried out by a
d2DuHEEbvU8-00218-00063676-00063879 large network covering the whole of
d2DuHEEbvU8-00219-00063879-00064480 North Korea
d2DuHEEbvU8-00220-00064482-00065230 topic disease prevention measures recent
d2DuHEEbvU8-00221-00065232-00065462 research has indicated that regardless
d2DuHEEbvU8-00222-00065463-00065714 of the accuracy of the allegations the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00223-00065715-00066029 Chinese acted as if they were true after
d2DuHEEbvU8-00224-00066030-00066257 learning of the outbreaks Mao Zedong
d2DuHEEbvU8-00225-00066258-00066515 immediately requested Soviet assistance
d2DuHEEbvU8-00226-00066516-00066779 on disease prevention while the Chinese
d2DuHEEbvU8-00227-00066780-00067004 People's Liberation Army general
d2DuHEEbvU8-00228-00067005-00067259 logistics department was mobilized for
d2DuHEEbvU8-00229-00067260-00067540 anti bacterial logical warfare on the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00230-00067541-00067868 Korean battlefield for anti bacterial
d2DuHEEbvU8-00231-00067869-00068108 logical warfare research centers were
d2DuHEEbvU8-00232-00068109-00068384 soon set up while about 5.8 million
d2DuHEEbvU8-00233-00068385-00068753 doses of vaccine and 200,000 gas masks
d2DuHEEbvU8-00234-00068754-00069065 were delivered to the front within China
d2DuHEEbvU8-00235-00069066-00069398 66 quarantine stations were also set up
d2DuHEEbvU8-00236-00069399-00069662 along the Chinese borders while about 5
d2DuHEEbvU8-00237-00069663-00069869 million Chinese in Manchuria were
d2DuHEEbvU8-00238-00069870-00070187 inoculated the Chinese government also
d2DuHEEbvU8-00239-00070188-00070487 initiated the patriotic health and
d2DuHEEbvU8-00240-00070488-00070753 epidemic prevention campaign and
d2DuHEEbvU8-00241-00070754-00071015 directed every citizen to kill flies
d2DuHEEbvU8-00242-00071016-00071321 mosquitoes and fleas these disease
d2DuHEEbvU8-00243-00071322-00071567 prevention measures soon resulted in an
d2DuHEEbvU8-00244-00071568-00071765 improvement of health for communist
d2DuHEEbvU8-00245-00071766-00071998 soldiers on the Korean battlefield
d2DuHEEbvU8-00246-00071999-00072326 Tibor marae provided eyewitness account
d2DuHEEbvU8-00247-00072327-00072538 of North Korea conducting an
d2DuHEEbvU8-00248-00072539-00072856 unprecedented campaign of Public Health
d2DuHEEbvU8-00249-00072857-00073500 during the allegation
d2DuHEEbvU8-00250-00073501-00073910 topic subsequent evaluation
d2DuHEEbvU8-00251-00073911-00074158 you
d2DuHEEbvU8-00252-00074159-00074422 subsequent historians have offered other
d2DuHEEbvU8-00253-00074423-00074663 explanations to the disease outbreaks
d2DuHEEbvU8-00254-00074664-00075101 during the spring of 1952 for example it
d2DuHEEbvU8-00255-00075102-00075305 has been noted that springtime is
d2DuHEEbvU8-00256-00075306-00075557 usually a period of epidemics within
d2DuHEEbvU8-00257-00075558-00075785 China and North Korea and years of
d2DuHEEbvU8-00258-00075786-00076040 warfare had also caused a breakdown in
d2DuHEEbvU8-00259-00076041-00076373 the Korean healthcare system historians
d2DuHEEbvU8-00260-00076374-00076517 have argued that under these
d2DuHEEbvU8-00261-00076518-00076751 circumstances diseases could easily
d2DuHEEbvU8-00262-00076752-00076943 spread throughout the entire military
d2DuHEEbvU8-00263-00076944-00077222 and civilian populations within Korea
d2DuHEEbvU8-00264-00077223-00077495 Australian historian Gavin McCormack
d2DuHEEbvU8-00265-00077496-00077756 argued that the claim of us biological
d2DuHEEbvU8-00266-00077757-00078032 warfare us far from inherently
d2DuHEEbvU8-00267-00078033-00078344 implausible pointing out that one of the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00268-00078345-00078602 Pao's who confessed walker Mahurin was
d2DuHEEbvU8-00269-00078603-00078950 in fact associated with fort detrick he
d2DuHEEbvU8-00270-00078951-00079172 also pointed out that as the deployment
d2DuHEEbvU8-00271-00079173-00079412 of nuclear and chemical weapons was
d2DuHEEbvU8-00272-00079413-00079613 considered there is no reason to believe
d2DuHEEbvU8-00273-00079614-00079814 that ethical principles would have
d2DuHEEbvU8-00274-00079815-00080036 overruled the resort to biological
d2DuHEEbvU8-00275-00080037-00080357 warfare he also suggested that the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00276-00080358-00080651 outbreak in 1951 of viral hemorrhagic
d2DuHEEbvU8-00277-00080652-00080921 fever which had previously been unknown
d2DuHEEbvU8-00278-00080922-00081191 in Korea was linked to biological
d2DuHEEbvU8-00279-00081192-00081641 warfare a 1988 book on the Korean War by
d2DuHEEbvU8-00280-00081642-00081887 historians John Halliday and Bruce
d2DuHEEbvU8-00281-00081888-00082154 Cummings also suggested the claims might
d2DuHEEbvU8-00282-00082155-00082610 be true in 1989 a British study of unit
d2DuHEEbvU8-00283-00082611-00082961 731 strongly supported the theory of
d2DuHEEbvU8-00284-00082962-00083231 United States Japanese biological
d2DuHEEbvU8-00285-00083232-00083537 warfare culpability in Korea the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00286-00083538-00083777 official Chinese government stance in
d2DuHEEbvU8-00287-00083778-00084059 the mid-1990s was that biological
d2DuHEEbvU8-00288-00084060-00084272 warfare was a real threat at the time
d2DuHEEbvU8-00289-00084273-00084509 and they reacted properly in order to
d2DuHEEbvU8-00290-00084510-00084767 prevent serious epidemics from spreading
d2DuHEEbvU8-00291-00084768-00085115 throughout North Korea and China in 1995
d2DuHEEbvU8-00292-00085116-00085310 and with access to newly available
d2DuHEEbvU8-00293-00085311-00085610 Chinese documents historian Xu Guan
d2DuHEEbvU8-00294-00085611-00085853 Zhong noted that there is little if any
d2DuHEEbvU8-00295-00085854-00086096 information that currently exists on the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00296-00086097-00086309 Chinese side which explains how the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00297-00086310-00086522 Chinese scientists came up with the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00298-00086523-00086759 conclusion of u.s. biological warfare
d2DuHEEbvU8-00299-00086760-00086975 during the disease outbreak in the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00300-00086976-00087392 spring of 1952 Zhang further theorized
d2DuHEEbvU8-00301-00087393-00087544 that the allegation was
d2DuHEEbvU8-00302-00087545-00087748 caused by unfounded rumors and
d2DuHEEbvU8-00303-00087749-00087973 scientific investigations on the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00304-00087974-00088213 allegation was purposely ignored on the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00305-00088214-00088460 Chinese side for the sake of domestic
d2DuHEEbvU8-00306-00088461-00088784 and international propaganda in 1998
d2DuHEEbvU8-00307-00088785-00089041 Stephen Endicott and Edward Hagerman
d2DuHEEbvU8-00308-00089042-00089273 claimed that the accusations were true
d2DuHEEbvU8-00309-00089274-00089485 in their book the United States and
d2DuHEEbvU8-00310-00089486-00089737 biological warfare secrets from the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00311-00089738-00090037 early Cold War in Korea the book
d2DuHEEbvU8-00312-00090038-00090323 received mixed reviews out of 20 reviews
d2DuHEEbvU8-00313-00090324-00090568 cited two reviews were negative with a
d2DuHEEbvU8-00314-00090569-00090866 US Military Academy professor calling
d2DuHEEbvU8-00315-00090867-00091156 the book an example of bad history and
d2DuHEEbvU8-00316-00091157-00091405 with another review calling the books
d2DuHEEbvU8-00317-00091406-00091679 lack of direct evidence appalling
d2DuHEEbvU8-00318-00091680-00091928 although neither of these two negative
d2DuHEEbvU8-00319-00091929-00092165 reviews considers either the admissions
d2DuHEEbvU8-00320-00092166-00092384 that the u.s. deployed chemical and
d2DuHEEbvU8-00321-00092385-00092684 biological weapons by Colonel Schwab and
d2DuHEEbvU8-00322-00092685-00092905 Mahurin or the u.s. chemical and
d2DuHEEbvU8-00323-00092906-00093191 biological weapons caches at locations
d2DuHEEbvU8-00324-00093192-00093442 such as Camp Dedrick and elsewhere or
d2DuHEEbvU8-00325-00093443-00093706 even the extensive documented history of
d2DuHEEbvU8-00326-00093707-00093979 clandestine drug tests undertaken among
d2DuHEEbvU8-00327-00093980-00094235 the u.s. population itself cited in
d2DuHEEbvU8-00328-00094236-00094478 sources such as biographies of Frank
d2DuHEEbvU8-00329-00094479-00094841 Olsen 18 other reviews praised the case
d2DuHEEbvU8-00330-00094842-00095155 the authors made in response catherine
d2DuHEEbvU8-00331-00095156-00095384 wethersby in Milton Lydon Berg of the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00332-00095385-00095587 cold war international history project
d2DuHEEbvU8-00333-00095588-00095875 at the Woodrow Wilson Center released a
d2DuHEEbvU8-00334-00095876-00096153 cache of Soviet and Chinese documents in
d2DuHEEbvU8-00335-00096154-00096457 1998 showing the North Korean claimed to
d2DuHEEbvU8-00336-00096458-00096613 have been an elaborate disinformation
d2DuHEEbvU8-00337-00096614-00096923 campaign they revealed that North
d2DuHEEbvU8-00338-00096924-00097237 Korea's Health Minister traveled in 1952
d2DuHEEbvU8-00339-00097238-00097516 to the remote Manchurian city of mut den
d2DuHEEbvU8-00340-00097517-00097726 where he procured a culture of plague
d2DuHEEbvU8-00341-00097727-00097934 bacilli which was used to infect
d2DuHEEbvU8-00342-00097935-00098125 condemned criminals as part of an
d2DuHEEbvU8-00343-00098126-00098435 elaborate disinformation scheme tissue
d2DuHEEbvU8-00344-00098436-00098638 samples were then used to fool the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00345-00098639-00098932 international investigators the papers
d2DuHEEbvU8-00346-00098933-00099163 included telegrams and reports of
d2DuHEEbvU8-00347-00099164-00099331 meetings among Soviet and Chinese
d2DuHEEbvU8-00348-00099332-00099687 leaders including Chairman Mao Zedong a
d2DuHEEbvU8-00349-00099688-00100022 report to Lavrentiy Beria head of Soviet
d2DuHEEbvU8-00350-00100023-00100316 intelligence for example stated false
d2DuHEEbvU8-00351-00100317-00100762 plagued regions were created burials
d2DuHEEbvU8-00352-00100763-00101065 were organized measures were taken to
d2DuHEEbvU8-00353-00101066-00101376 receive the plague and cholera bacillus
d2DuHEEbvU8-00354-00101377-00101704 these documents revealed that only after
d2DuHEEbvU8-00355-00101705-00101920 Stalin's death the following year did
d2DuHEEbvU8-00356-00101921-00102114 the Soviet Union halt the disinformation
d2DuHEEbvU8-00357-00102115-00102468 campaign Weathersby in Leiden Berg
d2DuHEEbvU8-00358-00102469-00102705 consider their evidence to be conclusive
d2DuHEEbvU8-00359-00102706-00102960 that the allegations were disinformation
d2DuHEEbvU8-00360-00102961-00103260 and no biological warfare use occurred
d2DuHEEbvU8-00361-00103261-00103750 in 2001 KGB expert Herbert Romer Steen
d2DuHEEbvU8-00362-00103751-00103972 supported Weathersby in Leiden Berg's
d2DuHEEbvU8-00363-00103973-00104205 position while criticizing Endicott's
d2DuHEEbvU8-00364-00104206-00104452 research on the basis that it is purely
d2DuHEEbvU8-00365-00104453-00104643 based on the accounts provided by the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00366-00104644-00104910 Chinese government published in Japan in
d2DuHEEbvU8-00367-00104911-00105226 2001 the book rikugien no burrito Klenk
d2DuHEEbvU8-00368-00105227-00105466 you ho know shinjitsu or the truth about
d2DuHEEbvU8-00369-00105467-00105711 the army no burrito Institute revealed
d2DuHEEbvU8-00370-00105713-00106099 that members of Japan's unit 731 also
d2DuHEEbvU8-00371-00106100-00106450 worked for the chemical section of a US
d2DuHEEbvU8-00372-00106451-00106729 clandestine unit hidden within Yokosuka
d2DuHEEbvU8-00373-00106730-00106959 Naval Base during the Korean War as well
d2DuHEEbvU8-00374-00106960-00107245 as on projects inside the United States
d2DuHEEbvU8-00375-00107246-00107708 from 1955 to 1959 according to jeff k's
d2DuHEEbvU8-00376-00107709-00107976 interpretation of a memorandum of
d2DuHEEbvU8-00377-00107977-00108223 conversation from the psychological
d2DuHEEbvU8-00378-00108224-00108373 strategy board
d2DuHEEbvU8-00379-00108374-00108877 PSB dated july 6th 1953 and Declassified
d2DuHEEbvU8-00380-00108878-00109286 and released by the CIA in 2006 the u.s.
d2DuHEEbvU8-00381-00109288-00109516 protestations that the United Nations
d2DuHEEbvU8-00382-00109517-00109761 did not mean the u.s. was serious about
d2DuHEEbvU8-00383-00109763-00109981 conducting any investigation into
d2DuHEEbvU8-00384-00109982-00110251 biological warfare charges despite what
d2DuHEEbvU8-00385-00110252-00110554 the government said publicly the reason
d2DuHEEbvU8-00386-00110555-00110800 the u.s. didn't want any investigation
d2DuHEEbvU8-00387-00110801-00111088 was because in actual investigation
d2DuHEEbvU8-00388-00111089-00111424 would reveal military operations which
d2DuHEEbvU8-00389-00111425-00111721 if revealed could do a psychological as
d2DuHEEbvU8-00390-00111722-00112126 well as military damage the memorandum
d2DuHEEbvU8-00391-00112127-00112372 which had been sent to CIA director
d2DuHEEbvU8-00392-00112373-00112642 Allen Dulles specifically stated as an
d2DuHEEbvU8-00393-00112643-00112843 example of what could be revealed
d2DuHEEbvU8-00394-00112844-00113235 8th Army preparations or operations eg
d2DuHEEbvU8-00395-00113236-00113583 chemical warfare author Simon Winchester
d2DuHEEbvU8-00396-00113583-00113886 concluded in 2008 that Soviet
d2DuHEEbvU8-00397-00113888-00114079 intelligence was skeptical of the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00398-00114080-00114142 allegation
d2DuHEEbvU8-00399-00114143-00114364 but that North Korea leader Kim il-sung
d2DuHEEbvU8-00400-00114365-00114533 believed it
d2DuHEEbvU8-00401-00114534-00114826 Winchester said the question has still
d2DuHEEbvU8-00402-00114827-00115116 not been satisfactorily answered in
d2DuHEEbvU8-00403-00115117-00115456 accounts published in 2013 after his
d2DuHEEbvU8-00404-00115457-00115699 death Wu ji Lee the former Surgeon
d2DuHEEbvU8-00405-00115700-00115959 General of Chinese people's voluntary
d2DuHEEbvU8-00406-00115960-00116221 army said that the Chinese allegation
d2DuHEEbvU8-00407-00116222-00116431 was a false alarm and that he had been
d2DuHEEbvU8-00408-00116432-00116656 forced to fabricate evidence according
d2DuHEEbvU8-00409-00116657-00116908 to Australian author and Judge Michael
d2DuHEEbvU8-00410-00116908-00117172 Pembroke the documents associated with
d2DuHEEbvU8-00411-00117173-00117400 Berea were mostly created during the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00412-00117401-00117583 time of the power struggle after
d2DuHEEbvU8-00413-00117583-00117732 Stalin's death and are therefore
d2DuHEEbvU8-00414-00117733-00118072 questionable he concludes that it seems
d2DuHEEbvU8-00415-00118073-00118300 likely that the full story of the United
d2DuHEEbvU8-00416-00118301-00118540 States involvement in biological warfare
d2DuHEEbvU8-00417-00118541-00119317 in Korea has not yet been told
d2DuHEEbvU8-00418-00119318-00119702 topic see also
d2DuHEEbvU8-00419-00119703-00119884 you
d2DuHEEbvU8-00420-00119885-00120764 yellow rain cabarrus quark crime trials
d2DuHEEbvU8-00421-00120765-00121303 topic further reading
d2DuHEEbvU8-00422-00121304-00121708 juwatch n history of three mobilizations
d2DuHEEbvU8-00423-00121709-00121978 a reexamination of the chinese
d2DuHEEbvU8-00424-00121979-00122282 biological warfare allegations against
d2DuHEEbvU8-00425-00122283-00122590 the United States in the Korean War
d2DuHEEbvU8-00426-00122591-00122968 Journal of American East Asian relations
d2DuHEEbvU8-00427-00122969-00123725 16.3 2009 213 - 247 John clues the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00428-00123726-00124006 communists new weapon germ warfare
d2DuHEEbvU8-00429-00124007-00124583 London 1950 - Stephen L Endicott germ
d2DuHEEbvU8-00430-00124583-00124991 warfare and plausible denial the Korean
d2DuHEEbvU8-00431-00124992-00125618 War 1950 to 1953 modern china 5.1
d2DuHEEbvU8-00432-00125619-00126338 january 1979 79 to 104 Stephen Endicott
d2DuHEEbvU8-00433-00126339-00126586 and Edward Hagerman the United States
d2DuHEEbvU8-00434-00126588-00126916 and biological warfare Bloomington aynd
d2DuHEEbvU8-00435-00126917-00127282 1998 report of the International
d2DuHEEbvU8-00436-00127283-00127472 scientific Commission for the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00437-00127473-00127690 investigation of the facts concerning
d2DuHEEbvU8-00438-00127691-00127988 bacterial warfare in Korea and China
d2DuHEEbvU8-00439-00127989-00128519 Peking and Prague 1952 Stanley I Cutler
d2DuHEEbvU8-00440-00128520-00128783 the American Inquisition justice and
d2DuHEEbvU8-00441-00128783-00129205 injustice in the Cold War New York 1982
d2DuHEEbvU8-00442-00129206-00129559 Albert II Calgary germ warfare and
d2DuHEEbvU8-00443-00129560-00129853 public health in the Korean conflict
d2DuHEEbvU8-00444-00129854-00130130 journal of the history of medicine and
d2DuHEEbvU8-00445-00130131-00130676 allied sciences 39 1984 John Ellis Van
d2DuHEEbvU8-00446-00130677-00130969 Cortlandt moon biological warfare
d2DuHEEbvU8-00447-00130970-00131384 allegations the Korean War case annals
d2DuHEEbvU8-00448-00131385-00131812 of the New York Academy of Sciences 666
d2DuHEEbvU8-00449-00131813-00132325 1992 Tom Buchanan the courage of Galileo
d2DuHEEbvU8-00450-00132326-00132730 Joseph Needham and the germ warfare
d2DuHEEbvU8-00451-00132731-00133169 allegations in the Korean War history 86
d2DuHEEbvU8-00452-00133170-00133706 October 2001 Julien rial did the u.s.
d2DuHEEbvU8-00453-00133707-00134078 wage germ warfare in Korea Telegraph
d2DuHEEbvU8-00454-00134079-00134356 June 10th 2010
d2DuHEEbvU8-00455-00134357-00134752 Ruth Rogowski nature annihilation and
d2DuHEEbvU8-00456-00134753-00135043 modernity China's Korean War germ
d2DuHEEbvU8-00457-00135044-00135463 warfare experience reconsidered journal
d2DuHEEbvU8-00458-00135464-00135967 of asian studies 61 made 2002 nyan
d2DuHEEbvU8-00459-00135968-00136302 chung-yong disease prevention social
d2DuHEEbvU8-00460-00136303-00136612 mobilization and spatial politics the
d2DuHEEbvU8-00461-00136613-00137017 ante germ warfare incident of 1952 and
d2DuHEEbvU8-00462-00137018-00137401 the patriotic health campaign Chinese
d2DuHEEbvU8-00463-00137402-00137932 historical review 11 fall 2004
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d3hV9j9KAyI-00001-00001130-00001462 thank you
d3hV9j9KAyI-00002-00001463-00001667 okay
d3hV9j9KAyI-00003-00001668-00001732 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-00004-00001734-00002081 greetings everyone welcome to Grassroots
d3hV9j9KAyI-00005-00002082-00002476 economic organizing discussion on owning
d3hV9j9KAyI-00006-00002477-00002831 together my name is ajwa iffateo and I'm
d3hV9j9KAyI-00007-00002832-00003041 a Geo co-editor
d3hV9j9KAyI-00008-00003042-00003340 Geo as our group is known as a volunteer
d3hV9j9KAyI-00009-00003342-00003715 Collective with the mission to catalyze
d3hV9j9KAyI-00010-00003715-00004051 cooperatives and other solidarity
d3hV9j9KAyI-00011-00004052-00004301 economic projects
d3hV9j9KAyI-00012-00004302-00004601 this discussion on owning together is
d3hV9j9KAyI-00013-00004602-00004781 part of that mission
d3hV9j9KAyI-00014-00004782-00004997 and I just want to just give you a
d3hV9j9KAyI-00015-00004998-00005201 little background that this food this
d3hV9j9KAyI-00016-00005202-00005501 discussion came about after we showed
d3hV9j9KAyI-00017-00005502-00005783 the film The Food Co-op uh about the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00018-00005784-00006113 Park Slope food co-op in Brooklyn back
d3hV9j9KAyI-00019-00006114-00006365 in November so we had a lot of questions
d3hV9j9KAyI-00020-00006366-00006670 about how is it possible to organize
d3hV9j9KAyI-00021-00006672-00006817 such a co-op
d3hV9j9KAyI-00022-00006818-00007241 and um and that Co-op the workers are
d3hV9j9KAyI-00023-00007242-00007534 required to uh I mean there's two in
d3hV9j9KAyI-00024-00007536-00007655 order to shop
d3hV9j9KAyI-00025-00007656-00007978 you have to work there and so there's a
d3hV9j9KAyI-00026-00007979-00008242 lot to learn about how these uh
d3hV9j9KAyI-00027-00008243-00008489 organizations I've done we wanted to
d3hV9j9KAyI-00028-00008490-00008723 give a special thanks to all of our
d3hV9j9KAyI-00029-00008724-00008969 panelists for sharing their experiences
d3hV9j9KAyI-00030-00008970-00009323 with us and we are very happy that you
d3hV9j9KAyI-00031-00009324-00009628 have come together to hear about how
d3hV9j9KAyI-00032-00009629-00010031 workers and owners and consumers uh can
d3hV9j9KAyI-00033-00010032-00010289 do what is being done
d3hV9j9KAyI-00034-00010290-00010463 stewards
d3hV9j9KAyI-00035-00010464-00010763 all right thanks ajua
d3hV9j9KAyI-00036-00010764-00010841 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-00037-00010842-00011201 yeah this this is a very timely topic as
d3hV9j9KAyI-00038-00011202-00011603 as you already mentioned and we do have
d3hV9j9KAyI-00039-00011604-00011831 some resources we had earlier indicated
d3hV9j9KAyI-00040-00011832-00012155 that they would be sent in advance but a
d3hV9j9KAyI-00041-00012156-00012383 couple of them are academic papers by
d3hV9j9KAyI-00042-00012384-00012653 our moderator and a panelist
d3hV9j9KAyI-00043-00012654-00012913 um so by Margaret Lund and a colleague
d3hV9j9KAyI-00044-00012913-00013229 and by Fred freundlich and his
d3hV9j9KAyI-00045-00013230-00013558 colleagues so if you're interested in
d3hV9j9KAyI-00046-00013559-00013793 receiving those papers we can send them
d3hV9j9KAyI-00047-00013794-00014069 to you individually and simply indicate
d3hV9j9KAyI-00048-00014069-00014236 in the chat
d3hV9j9KAyI-00049-00014237-00014783 um your name email and yes resources and
d3hV9j9KAyI-00050-00014784-00015155 and ye shall receive
d3hV9j9KAyI-00051-00015156-00015413 um so I'm I'm very happy to introduce
d3hV9j9KAyI-00052-00015413-00015736 our moderator uh Margaret Lund who will
d3hV9j9KAyI-00053-00015737-00015863 then
d3hV9j9KAyI-00054-00015863-00016108 um lead the discussion for the panel
d3hV9j9KAyI-00055-00016109-00016391 facilitate the discussion Margaret is an
d3hV9j9KAyI-00056-00016392-00016600 independent consultant specializing in
d3hV9j9KAyI-00057-00016601-00016829 the areas of Community Development
d3hV9j9KAyI-00058-00016830-00017143 finance and shared ownership strategies
d3hV9j9KAyI-00059-00017144-00017380 throughout our 30-year career she's
d3hV9j9KAyI-00060-00017381-00017603 worked with Enterprises in every major
d3hV9j9KAyI-00061-00017604-00017843 Cooperative sector including Credit
d3hV9j9KAyI-00062-00017844-00018203 Unions consumer co-ops housing worker
d3hV9j9KAyI-00063-00018204-00018535 co-ops Health Care Ag and small business
d3hV9j9KAyI-00064-00018536-00018772 prior to launching her Consulting
d3hV9j9KAyI-00065-00018773-00019199 practice in 2008 Ms Lund spent 16 years
d3hV9j9KAyI-00066-00019200-00019507 as a small business lender to co-ops
d3hV9j9KAyI-00067-00019508-00019757 she's a past member of the board of the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00068-00019758-00019967 U.S national Cooperative Business
d3hV9j9KAyI-00069-00019968-00020189 Association where she chaired both the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00070-00020190-00020350 Cooperative development and
d3hV9j9KAyI-00071-00020351-00020567 International Development committees as
d3hV9j9KAyI-00072-00020568-00020747 well as a national task force on
d3hV9j9KAyI-00073-00020748-00021017 Cooperative Capital formation she also
d3hV9j9KAyI-00074-00021018-00021191 served three terms On The Board of
d3hV9j9KAyI-00075-00021192-00021461 Health Partners the larger the largest
d3hV9j9KAyI-00076-00021462-00021689 consumer governed Health Care
d3hV9j9KAyI-00077-00021690-00021922 Organization in the United States and a
d3hV9j9KAyI-00078-00021923-00022108 leader in healthcare quality measures
d3hV9j9KAyI-00079-00022109-00022330 currently she's one of the trustees
d3hV9j9KAyI-00080-00022331-00022594 overseeing The Cooperative charitable
d3hV9j9KAyI-00081-00022595-00022799 trust a catalyst for research and
d3hV9j9KAyI-00082-00022800-00022980 Innovation
d3hV9j9KAyI-00083-00022981-00023375 and in worker ownership Margaret is the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00084-00023376-00023507 author of numerous practical
d3hV9j9KAyI-00085-00023508-00023747 Publications including solidarity as a
d3hV9j9KAyI-00086-00023748-00024000 business model a multi-stakeholder model
d3hV9j9KAyI-00087-00024001-00024336 and a recent paper
d3hV9j9KAyI-00088-00024337-00024700 with colleague Sonia novkovich so
d3hV9j9KAyI-00089-00024701-00025547 Margaret thank you very much and welcome
d3hV9j9KAyI-00090-00025548-00025744 there you go okay
d3hV9j9KAyI-00091-00025745-00025978 thank you all right so our structure
d3hV9j9KAyI-00092-00025979-00026087 today
d3hV9j9KAyI-00093-00026088-00026200 um we're going to move along we've got
d3hV9j9KAyI-00094-00026201-00026405 like kind of four questions or groups of
d3hV9j9KAyI-00095-00026406-00026531 questions for the panelists to address
d3hV9j9KAyI-00096-00026532-00026639 and then we're going to have time for
d3hV9j9KAyI-00097-00026639-00026818 questions at the end and you can put
d3hV9j9KAyI-00098-00026819-00026945 them in the chat and people be
d3hV9j9KAyI-00099-00026945-00027107 monitoring and we'll try to get to as
d3hV9j9KAyI-00100-00027108-00027401 many as we can so um so the first
d3hV9j9KAyI-00101-00027402-00027640 question Palace which is which is pretty
d3hV9j9KAyI-00102-00027641-00027731 easy
d3hV9j9KAyI-00103-00027732-00027881 um or just introduce yourself and tell
d3hV9j9KAyI-00104-00027882-00028024 us a little bit about about the co-op
d3hV9j9KAyI-00105-00028025-00028199 you come from
d3hV9j9KAyI-00106-00028200-00028402 um and something you like about your
d3hV9j9KAyI-00107-00028404-00028589 co-oper I always I'm always really
d3hV9j9KAyI-00108-00028589-00028745 interested in asking people what they're
d3hV9j9KAyI-00109-00028745-00028864 proud of
d3hV9j9KAyI-00110-00028866-00028985 um about their work what they're proud
d3hV9j9KAyI-00111-00028986-00029224 of about their Co-op so so tell us a
d3hV9j9KAyI-00112-00029225-00029452 little bit about about you and and your
d3hV9j9KAyI-00113-00029454-00029711 multi-stakeholder Co-op and I'm
d3hV9j9KAyI-00114-00029712-00029914 wondering how we should go in order we
d3hV9j9KAyI-00115-00029916-00030035 should probably keep going in the same
d3hV9j9KAyI-00116-00030036-00030257 order all the time
d3hV9j9KAyI-00117-00030258-00030490 but let's start with Weaver Street so
d3hV9j9KAyI-00118-00030491-00031139 John and James maybe you guys start
d3hV9j9KAyI-00119-00031139-00031570 my name is uh John McDonald and um I am
d3hV9j9KAyI-00120-00031572-00031774 I manage the bread bakery at Weaver
d3hV9j9KAyI-00121-00031775-00031883 Street
d3hV9j9KAyI-00122-00031883-00032014 um I've been at Weaver Street for 15
d3hV9j9KAyI-00123-00032016-00032212 years I'm most proud of our bread that's
d3hV9j9KAyI-00124-00032213-00032401 the easy one
d3hV9j9KAyI-00125-00032402-00032752 and uh I uh served on our board of
d3hV9j9KAyI-00126-00032753-00032890 directors
d3hV9j9KAyI-00127-00032891-00033143 um for eight years
d3hV9j9KAyI-00128-00033144-00033371 um rolled off around three years ago
d3hV9j9KAyI-00129-00033372-00033527 and we have three Weaver streeters here
d3hV9j9KAyI-00130-00033528-00033796 so I'll be quiet so you can introduce
d3hV9j9KAyI-00131-00033797-00034462 everybody
d3hV9j9KAyI-00132-00034463-00034655 good afternoon everybody I'm James Watts
d3hV9j9KAyI-00133-00034656-00034943 uh I'm uh the merchandising manager at
d3hV9j9KAyI-00134-00034944-00035212 Weaver Street Market I've worked here
d3hV9j9KAyI-00135-00035213-00035945 since uh 1992 uh so almost 31 years and
d3hV9j9KAyI-00136-00035946-00036352 uh I guess what I'm proudest of are the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00137-00036353-00036640 things that we do that build um
d3hV9j9KAyI-00138-00036641-00036874 Cooperative Commerce both locally but
d3hV9j9KAyI-00139-00036875-00037217 also internationally and so we were a
d3hV9j9KAyI-00140-00037218-00037409 big part of
d3hV9j9KAyI-00141-00037410-00037840 getting uh lariahana's uh Co-op products
d3hV9j9KAyI-00142-00037841-00038117 into the United States in a meaningful
d3hV9j9KAyI-00143-00038118-00038477 way and um that's been incredibly
d3hV9j9KAyI-00144-00038478-00038902 impactful for both them and for us and
d3hV9j9KAyI-00145-00038903-00039179 so it you know I guess as a merchandiser
d3hV9j9KAyI-00146-00039180-00039383 seeing products on the floor from other
d3hV9j9KAyI-00147-00039384-00039605 co-ops is a thing that excites me so
d3hV9j9KAyI-00148-00039606-00040302 that one's a really Stellar for us
d3hV9j9KAyI-00149-00040303-00040589 I am Alana Hines um I've been with
d3hV9j9KAyI-00150-00040590-00040865 Weaver Street for 15 years I am the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00151-00040866-00041051 manager of diversity equity and
d3hV9j9KAyI-00152-00041052-00041357 inclusion and I also am the board chair
d3hV9j9KAyI-00153-00041358-00041657 so right as John rolled off I rolled on
d3hV9j9KAyI-00154-00041658-00041945 um I'm currently in my third year and I
d3hV9j9KAyI-00155-00041946-00042130 am most excited genuinely about the work
d3hV9j9KAyI-00156-00042131-00042329 that I do with Weaver Street Market
d3hV9j9KAyI-00157-00042330-00042629 um working to essentially to reframe the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00158-00042630-00042862 box that Weaver Street has put itself in
d3hV9j9KAyI-00159-00042863-00043043 with the community and really redefining
d3hV9j9KAyI-00160-00043044-00043174 the words that we use when we say
d3hV9j9KAyI-00161-00043175-00043396 community and looking just to help local
d3hV9j9KAyI-00162-00043397-00043583 entrepreneurs and to rebuild the local
d3hV9j9KAyI-00163-00043584-00043871 economy it's my favorite
d3hV9j9KAyI-00164-00043872-00044057 great thank you I'm sorry I missed you
d3hV9j9KAyI-00165-00044058-00044201 in the introduction
d3hV9j9KAyI-00166-00044202-00044471 um okay Madeline from Black Star I'll
d3hV9j9KAyI-00167-00044472-00044687 just stretch all the way to Texas so
d3hV9j9KAyI-00168-00044688-00044855 tell us about your Co-op and what what
d3hV9j9KAyI-00169-00044856-00045052 you're proud of what you like about it
d3hV9j9KAyI-00170-00045053-00045299 uh my name is Madeline I am the business
d3hV9j9KAyI-00171-00045300-00045574 manager at Blackstar Co-op it is the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00172-00045575-00045749 world's first cooperatively owned
d3hV9j9KAyI-00173-00045750-00045977 Brewery and we are also democratically
d3hV9j9KAyI-00174-00045978-00046258 self-managed we are founded in 2006 in
d3hV9j9KAyI-00175-00046259-00046517 Austin Texas and have had our doors open
d3hV9j9KAyI-00176-00046518-00046918 since 2010. I joined the staff in 2021
d3hV9j9KAyI-00177-00046919-00047207 and what I am most proud of my Co-op is
d3hV9j9KAyI-00178-00047208-00047417 we were Brewery of the year in the state
d3hV9j9KAyI-00179-00047418-00047824 of Texas last year
d3hV9j9KAyI-00180-00047825-00047965 cool
d3hV9j9KAyI-00181-00047966-00048167 that's great
d3hV9j9KAyI-00182-00048168-00048293 um so we're going to stretch all the way
d3hV9j9KAyI-00183-00048294-00048551 to Fred are you actually in the US or
d3hV9j9KAyI-00184-00048552-00048689 are you in Spain but we'll leave
d3hV9j9KAyI-00185-00048690-00048887 metaphorically if not actually stretch
d3hV9j9KAyI-00186-00048888-00049121 to Spain so Fred's um from underground
d3hV9j9KAyI-00187-00049122-00049349 University and I think we all
d3hV9j9KAyI-00188-00049350-00049523 are familiar to some degree with the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00189-00049524-00049762 Mondragon Co-op so
d3hV9j9KAyI-00190-00049763-00049907 um so but tell us a little bit about
d3hV9j9KAyI-00191-00049908-00050152 them and what you do there and what
d3hV9j9KAyI-00192-00050153-00050302 you're proud of about your work and your
d3hV9j9KAyI-00193-00050303-00050573 organization
d3hV9j9KAyI-00194-00050574-00050855 hi everyone welcome I'm Fred I'm an
d3hV9j9KAyI-00195-00050856-00051190 American transplanted at Mondragon in in
d3hV9j9KAyI-00196-00051191-00051592 1995 I work at half of the business
d3hV9j9KAyI-00197-00051594-00051844 school of modern University and half at
d3hV9j9KAyI-00198-00051845-00052085 the school of humanities Institute for
d3hV9j9KAyI-00199-00052086-00052349 Cooperative research
d3hV9j9KAyI-00200-00052350-00052559 um both of those faculties are are
d3hV9j9KAyI-00201-00052560-00052780 multi-stakeholder co-ops
d3hV9j9KAyI-00202-00052782-00053249 I think I'm most proud of our work in
d3hV9j9KAyI-00203-00053250-00053357 helping
d3hV9j9KAyI-00204-00053358-00053644 Cooperative eyes the core economy a lot
d3hV9j9KAyI-00205-00053645-00053980 of co-ops are in the new economy in the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00206-00053982-00054226 uh in
d3hV9j9KAyI-00207-00054227-00054319 in
d3hV9j9KAyI-00208-00054320-00054604 sometimes marginal activities
d3hV9j9KAyI-00209-00054605-00054875 and I think it's extremely important for
d3hV9j9KAyI-00210-00054876-00055061 our movement for
d3hV9j9KAyI-00211-00055062-00055271 working people generally that co-ops
d3hV9j9KAyI-00212-00055272-00055373 also
d3hV9j9KAyI-00213-00055374-00055757 be in the core economy building stuff
d3hV9j9KAyI-00214-00055758-00055961 thanks
d3hV9j9KAyI-00215-00055962-00056326 well okay and then um Elizabeth uh just
d3hV9j9KAyI-00216-00056327-00056609 tell is that correct so Elizabeth is
d3hV9j9KAyI-00217-00056610-00056716 um going to tell us a little bit about
d3hV9j9KAyI-00218-00056717-00056938 both about her Co-op and her work
d3hV9j9KAyI-00219-00056939-00057329 um in at Hunger Mountain so please
d3hV9j9KAyI-00220-00057329-00057641 hi my name is Elizabeth jesdale I've
d3hV9j9KAyI-00221-00057641-00057911 worked at the large food co-op in
d3hV9j9KAyI-00222-00057912-00058144 Montpelier Vermont for
d3hV9j9KAyI-00223-00058145-00058415 23 years
d3hV9j9KAyI-00224-00058416-00058907 um and in 2003 I was part of bringing a
d3hV9j9KAyI-00225-00058908-00059137 union into the co-op
d3hV9j9KAyI-00226-00059138-00059363 I was promptly demoted for management
d3hV9j9KAyI-00227-00059364-00059665 threatened to be fired and uh
d3hV9j9KAyI-00228-00059666-00059938 but I I toughed it out and I'm still
d3hV9j9KAyI-00229-00059939-00060250 there I'm now a member of the Union
d3hV9j9KAyI-00230-00060251-00060379 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-00231-00060379-00060811 and we are not a
d3hV9j9KAyI-00232-00060812-00061019 multi-stakeholder in the way that these
d3hV9j9KAyI-00233-00061020-00061229 the other co-ops are that are that are
d3hV9j9KAyI-00234-00061229-00061637 here on this call but being that we're a
d3hV9j9KAyI-00235-00061638-00061799 consumer Co-op
d3hV9j9KAyI-00236-00061800-00061973 and there's a Union within that
d3hV9j9KAyI-00237-00061974-00062176 organization
d3hV9j9KAyI-00238-00062177-00062344 um and our Union is Rank and filed
d3hV9j9KAyI-00239-00062345-00062579 democratically run
d3hV9j9KAyI-00240-00062579-00062741 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-00241-00062741-00062980 we also have a voice and we have a
d3hV9j9KAyI-00242-00062982-00063149 contra a legal contract with the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00243-00063150-00063275 employer
d3hV9j9KAyI-00244-00063276-00063509 um so it's it's different but we also
d3hV9j9KAyI-00245-00063510-00063700 have a voice and sometimes we are able
d3hV9j9KAyI-00246-00063701-00063935 to sway policy
d3hV9j9KAyI-00247-00063936-00064229 um if we're organized enough to do so
d3hV9j9KAyI-00248-00064229-00064630 uh proudest thing
d3hV9j9KAyI-00249-00064632-00064876 I would say I'm gonna go I'll just go
d3hV9j9KAyI-00250-00064877-00065015 with my union just to give something a
d3hV9j9KAyI-00251-00065016-00065237 little different uh our opening Preamble
d3hV9j9KAyI-00252-00065238-00065585 that was written in 1936
d3hV9j9KAyI-00253-00065586-00065993 uh states that our Union is open to all
d3hV9j9KAyI-00254-00065994-00066379 people regardless of
d3hV9j9KAyI-00255-00066380-00066838 gender what kind of work they do all the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00256-00066839-00067079 categories and that was written in 1936
d3hV9j9KAyI-00257-00067080-00067343 and it still stands today and I'm
d3hV9j9KAyI-00258-00067344-00067703 it's awesome thank you
d3hV9j9KAyI-00259-00067704-00067876 cool thank you
d3hV9j9KAyI-00260-00067877-00068093 um we're showing that great okay so now
d3hV9j9KAyI-00261-00068094-00068231 we're going to get in the nitty-gritty
d3hV9j9KAyI-00262-00068232-00068347 and I've I've been writing about
d3hV9j9KAyI-00263-00068348-00068615 multi-stakeholder co-ops for I don't
d3hV9j9KAyI-00264-00068616-00068765 know whenever I wrote that book like 15
d3hV9j9KAyI-00265-00068766-00068999 years and what I think people like they
d3hV9j9KAyI-00266-00069000-00069149 always give me like this little glazed
d3hV9j9KAyI-00267-00069150-00069281 look and they're like well how does that
d3hV9j9KAyI-00268-00069282-00069538 even work you know no at first or I
d3hV9j9KAyI-00269-00069539-00069755 guess our second question is how does
d3hV9j9KAyI-00270-00069756-00070037 that even work right so so briefly for
d3hV9j9KAyI-00271-00070038-00070223 each of these these co-ops organizations
d3hV9j9KAyI-00272-00070224-00070426 outline the structure of vote of the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00273-00070427-00070600 ownership of the governors right so the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00274-00070601-00070763 joint ownership and Joint governance and
d3hV9j9KAyI-00275-00070764-00071026 how those those both work
d3hV9j9KAyI-00276-00071027-00071405 um and then you know like our crib notes
d3hV9j9KAyI-00277-00071406-00071663 say the challenges that come from that
d3hV9j9KAyI-00278-00071664-00071813 um and so maybe you could just say like
d3hV9j9KAyI-00279-00071814-00071969 if you've had particular challenges in
d3hV9j9KAyI-00280-00071970-00072191 the US from you know either their legal
d3hV9j9KAyI-00281-00072192-00072425 or financing or there's something that
d3hV9j9KAyI-00282-00072426-00072617 um have impeded it although I've got to
d3hV9j9KAyI-00283-00072618-00072844 say because Fred's on here like I'm not
d3hV9j9KAyI-00284-00072845-00072988 sure I'm under God and you have like
d3hV9j9KAyI-00285-00072989-00073181 legal or financial legal challenges to
d3hV9j9KAyI-00286-00073182-00073355 do multistigler co-op so maybe you could
d3hV9j9KAyI-00287-00073356-00073505 take the other thing about like well how
d3hV9j9KAyI-00288-00073506-00073793 does the policy context broadly you know
d3hV9j9KAyI-00289-00073794-00074038 support what you're doing because
d3hV9j9KAyI-00290-00074039-00074176 um that's a question too so I think you
d3hV9j9KAyI-00291-00074177-00074393 could talk about both challenges
d3hV9j9KAyI-00292-00074394-00074549 um that you've had in implementing but
d3hV9j9KAyI-00293-00074550-00074735 also flip it and you know to the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00294-00074736-00075011 positive about like what you know what
d3hV9j9KAyI-00295-00075012-00075293 um advantages or or you know whatever
d3hV9j9KAyI-00296-00075294-00075449 what good things have kind of come from
d3hV9j9KAyI-00297-00075450-00075605 this structure as well as challenges and
d3hV9j9KAyI-00298-00075606-00075803 trying to implement it but um okay so
d3hV9j9KAyI-00299-00075804-00075941 but anyway just like how does it
d3hV9j9KAyI-00300-00075942-00076187 actually work you know I like problems
d3hV9j9KAyI-00301-00076188-00076337 good things bad things you've run into
d3hV9j9KAyI-00302-00076338-00076535 that have to do with that structure that
d3hV9j9KAyI-00303-00076536-00076667 would be really helpful so let's start
d3hV9j9KAyI-00304-00076668-00076912 with Weaver Street again Elena and John
d3hV9j9KAyI-00305-00076913-00077147 and James however you want to work it
d3hV9j9KAyI-00306-00077148-00077219 out
d3hV9j9KAyI-00307-00077220-00077344 okay
d3hV9j9KAyI-00308-00077345-00077567 um I'll actually take that so I often
d3hV9j9KAyI-00309-00077568-00077765 get questions about multi-stakeholder
d3hV9j9KAyI-00310-00077766-00077885 how it works
d3hV9j9KAyI-00311-00077886-00078047 um a little about Weaver Street so we
d3hV9j9KAyI-00312-00078048-00078305 are 35 years old uh we have adopted
d3hV9j9KAyI-00313-00078306-00078688 policy governance and we as we've said
d3hV9j9KAyI-00314-00078689-00078881 we are multi-stakeholder
d3hV9j9KAyI-00315-00078882-00079337 um to date we have 171 worker owners we
d3hV9j9KAyI-00316-00079338-00079750 have roughly about 300 workers overall
d3hV9j9KAyI-00317-00079751-00080009 um and then we've got a little over 26
d3hV9j9KAyI-00318-00080010-00080297 000 consumer owners so amongst all
d3hV9j9KAyI-00319-00080298-00080465 constituents we aren't the type of Co-op
d3hV9j9KAyI-00320-00080466-00080621 where you have to work there or you have
d3hV9j9KAyI-00321-00080622-00080759 to do something you don't have to be an
d3hV9j9KAyI-00322-00080760-00080909 owner in order to shop at Weber Street
d3hV9j9KAyI-00323-00080910-00081143 Market so we do have four stores we also
d3hV9j9KAyI-00324-00081144-00081353 have a food house where John is the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00325-00081354-00081431 difference
d3hV9j9KAyI-00326-00081432-00081575 um with us and the question that I
d3hV9j9KAyI-00327-00081576-00081850 oftentimes get is what is there a
d3hV9j9KAyI-00328-00081851-00082067 conflict of interest there is not a
d3hV9j9KAyI-00329-00082068-00082319 conflict of interest and my 15 years I
d3hV9j9KAyI-00330-00082320-00082511 haven't seen it um you know John or
d3hV9j9KAyI-00331-00082512-00082726 James may be able to tell of other times
d3hV9j9KAyI-00332-00082727-00082882 I'm sure that there have been times
d3hV9j9KAyI-00333-00082883-00083038 where you know you kind of have to
d3hV9j9KAyI-00334-00083039-00083212 question but essentially your high
d3hV9j9KAyI-00335-00083213-00083399 hiring people you're putting people on
d3hV9j9KAyI-00336-00083400-00083626 the board based on Integrity based on
d3hV9j9KAyI-00337-00083627-00083812 character so you're putting people
d3hV9j9KAyI-00338-00083813-00083975 you're pointing people to the board for
d3hV9j9KAyI-00339-00083976-00084221 that reason our board consists of seven
d3hV9j9KAyI-00340-00084222-00084544 individuals the GM two worker owners
d3hV9j9KAyI-00341-00084545-00084767 that are elected to Consumer owners that
d3hV9j9KAyI-00342-00084768-00084923 are elected and then two appointed
d3hV9j9KAyI-00343-00084924-00085103 members so you do have that
d3hV9j9KAyI-00344-00085104-00085349 representation on the board which is why
d3hV9j9KAyI-00345-00085350-00085576 I love being on the board
d3hV9j9KAyI-00346-00085577-00085679 um because you do have that
d3hV9j9KAyI-00347-00085680-00085871 representation you do know that out of
d3hV9j9KAyI-00348-00085872-00085997 the workers there's not just some
d3hV9j9KAyI-00349-00085998-00086147 separate into teammates and all these
d3hV9j9KAyI-00350-00086148-00086291 decisions they don't know anything about
d3hV9j9KAyI-00351-00086292-00086488 operations so throughout the business
d3hV9j9KAyI-00352-00086489-00086759 there is a separation between operations
d3hV9j9KAyI-00353-00086760-00086944 and between the board
d3hV9j9KAyI-00354-00086945-00087131 um I would say one opportunity that we
d3hV9j9KAyI-00355-00087132-00087323 always face especially with turnover and
d3hV9j9KAyI-00356-00087324-00087550 operation things like that is really
d3hV9j9KAyI-00357-00087551-00087862 educating the workers on the board what
d3hV9j9KAyI-00358-00087863-00088031 the board does the function of the board
d3hV9j9KAyI-00359-00088032-00088229 really the importance of ownership in
d3hV9j9KAyI-00360-00088230-00088444 general once you are an owner then you
d3hV9j9KAyI-00361-00088445-00088697 do get to vote for the board
d3hV9j9KAyI-00362-00088698-00088906 um and so understanding you know exactly
d3hV9j9KAyI-00363-00088907-00089105 what that means because it's not often
d3hV9j9KAyI-00364-00089106-00089273 found especially with this businesses
d3hV9j9KAyI-00365-00089274-00089435 you shop there and you don't own the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00366-00089436-00089591 business that you're a part of or the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00367-00089592-00089855 business that you work for so you know I
d3hV9j9KAyI-00368-00089856-00089999 would say that's the biggest opportunity
d3hV9j9KAyI-00369-00090000-00090191 challenge I guess but I think it's more
d3hV9j9KAyI-00370-00090192-00090394 an opportunity really to just figure out
d3hV9j9KAyI-00371-00090395-00090605 that sweet spot between how do you
d3hV9j9KAyI-00372-00090606-00090862 educate your worker population and then
d3hV9j9KAyI-00373-00090863-00091150 also how do you really utilize and
d3hV9j9KAyI-00374-00091151-00091337 Leverage The Power of your board in
d3hV9j9KAyI-00375-00091338-00091523 being able to have that strong
d3hV9j9KAyI-00376-00091524-00091691 conversation with your workers so that
d3hV9j9KAyI-00377-00091692-00091817 you're not getting into kind of the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00378-00091818-00091949 nitty-gritty but you're actually looking
d3hV9j9KAyI-00379-00091950-00092123 at the visioning and the governing and
d3hV9j9KAyI-00380-00092124-00092267 the different responsibilities of the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00381-00092268-00092615 board
d3hV9j9KAyI-00382-00092616-00092909 right and do you find any challenges
d3hV9j9KAyI-00383-00092910-00093106 like just I don't know legally in your
d3hV9j9KAyI-00384-00093107-00093268 state or or
d3hV9j9KAyI-00385-00093269-00093461 um you know your bank saying that sounds
d3hV9j9KAyI-00386-00093462-00093743 weird or anything like that or
d3hV9j9KAyI-00387-00093744-00093923 um well I'll say in my three years since
d3hV9j9KAyI-00388-00093924-00094085 Weaver Street has been around for quite
d3hV9j9KAyI-00389-00094086-00094282 a while I haven't found any
d3hV9j9KAyI-00390-00094283-00094487 um just because you know with our audits
d3hV9j9KAyI-00391-00094488-00094625 with our banking structures and things
d3hV9j9KAyI-00392-00094626-00094787 like that they're well versed in what
d3hV9j9KAyI-00393-00094788-00094985 we're doing and how we're doing it so
d3hV9j9KAyI-00394-00094986-00095249 being able to separate you know the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00395-00095250-00095494 financials of operations being audited
d3hV9j9KAyI-00396-00095495-00095675 by the board things like that the board
d3hV9j9KAyI-00397-00095676-00095855 does speak to the auditor at the end of
d3hV9j9KAyI-00398-00095856-00096023 each audit to ask questions it does show
d3hV9j9KAyI-00399-00096024-00096209 up in our financial reports so it is
d3hV9j9KAyI-00400-00096210-00096437 something that we are monitoring when
d3hV9j9KAyI-00401-00096438-00096635 the GM he essentially reports to the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00402-00096636-00096917 board so we monitor his statements he
d3hV9j9KAyI-00403-00096918-00097126 gives you know different reports on
d3hV9j9KAyI-00404-00097127-00097391 operations the health and the wealth of
d3hV9j9KAyI-00405-00097392-00097582 operations in general so that when we
d3hV9j9KAyI-00406-00097583-00097847 are looking ahead we are able to say you
d3hV9j9KAyI-00407-00097848-00097912 know
d3hV9j9KAyI-00408-00097913-00098206 I mean with our appointed members with
d3hV9j9KAyI-00409-00098207-00098393 our consumer owners and then also with
d3hV9j9KAyI-00410-00098394-00098615 the knowledge of our worker owners if
d3hV9j9KAyI-00411-00098616-00098753 there is a question
d3hV9j9KAyI-00412-00098754-00098903 um then we essentially we have lawyers
d3hV9j9KAyI-00413-00098904-00099076 that we can say you know maybe this is
d3hV9j9KAyI-00414-00099077-00099221 something that we should ask the lawyers
d3hV9j9KAyI-00415-00099222-00099412 so we do have that on our side as well
d3hV9j9KAyI-00416-00099413-00099568 so that we're not kind of going rogue
d3hV9j9KAyI-00417-00099569-00099694 and saying we think that this is going
d3hV9j9KAyI-00418-00099695-00099905 to happen we hope that nobody audits us
d3hV9j9KAyI-00419-00099906-00100121 when we turn in our tax returns we
d3hV9j9KAyI-00420-00100122-00100282 essentially say we have those people on
d3hV9j9KAyI-00421-00100283-00100499 our side that can monitor and to watch
d3hV9j9KAyI-00422-00100500-00100685 and they know that we are a Cooperative
d3hV9j9KAyI-00423-00100686-00100865 they know our business structure they
d3hV9j9KAyI-00424-00100866-00101093 know that you know especially when we do
d3hV9j9KAyI-00425-00101094-00101356 go into things like we do uh we
d3hV9j9KAyI-00426-00101357-00101555 distribute a dividend in profitable
d3hV9j9KAyI-00427-00101556-00101806 years so you know even going through
d3hV9j9KAyI-00428-00101807-00102053 that Financial structure and saying this
d3hV9j9KAyI-00429-00102054-00102347 is compliant with where you are and this
d3hV9j9KAyI-00430-00102348-00102473 is actually a good move that
d3hV9j9KAyI-00431-00102474-00102665 conversation has had not just with the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00432-00102666-00102808 GM and the finance department and
d3hV9j9KAyI-00433-00102809-00103049 operations but it is also had with the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00434-00103050-00103228 entire board
d3hV9j9KAyI-00435-00103229-00103378 yeah okay
d3hV9j9KAyI-00436-00103379-00103558 great thank you any of the other two
d3hV9j9KAyI-00437-00103559-00103678 from Weber State do you want to add
d3hV9j9KAyI-00438-00103679-00103978 anything
d3hV9j9KAyI-00439-00103979-00104290 and structure okay cool thank you Elena
d3hV9j9KAyI-00440-00104291-00104578 um okay so so Madeline at Blackstar so
d3hV9j9KAyI-00441-00104579-00104801 how does joint ownership and governance
d3hV9j9KAyI-00442-00104802-00105208 uh work at your Co-op
d3hV9j9KAyI-00443-00105209-00105454 um so black star is a consumer-owned
d3hV9j9KAyI-00444-00105455-00105869 co-op and our workers can become member
d3hV9j9KAyI-00445-00105870-00106223 owners we are owned by roughly 4 000
d3hV9j9KAyI-00446-00106224-00106595 consumer owners and we have a they elect
d3hV9j9KAyI-00447-00106596-00106865 a board of nine people we have the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00448-00106866-00107057 ability to have up to three workers on
d3hV9j9KAyI-00449-00107058-00107284 that board however currently we have no
d3hV9j9KAyI-00450-00107285-00107560 workers presiding over that board the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00451-00107561-00107728 workers assembly
d3hV9j9KAyI-00452-00107729-00108107 um is made up of roughly 17 people right
d3hV9j9KAyI-00453-00108108-00108454 now and about five of us are member
d3hV9j9KAyI-00454-00108455-00108725 owners and therefore vote and Board
d3hV9j9KAyI-00455-00108726-00108983 elections any changes to the bylaws but
d3hV9j9KAyI-00456-00108983-00109240 as well as we make up the voting body
d3hV9j9KAyI-00457-00109241-00109445 within the workers assembly and we make
d3hV9j9KAyI-00458-00109446-00109673 all major decisions for the cooperative
d3hV9j9KAyI-00459-00109674-00109907 I always describe the relationship
d3hV9j9KAyI-00460-00109908-00110201 between the board and the workers as the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00461-00110202-00110333 workers are responsible for the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00462-00110333-00110597 operational day-to-day and the board is
d3hV9j9KAyI-00463-00110598-00110801 responsible for the longevity so they
d3hV9j9KAyI-00464-00110802-00110957 just make sure that their dirt decisions
d3hV9j9KAyI-00465-00110958-00111071 that we're making aren't going to shut
d3hV9j9KAyI-00466-00111072-00111227 us down
d3hV9j9KAyI-00467-00111228-00111334 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-00468-00111335-00111610 and yeah some of the difficulties that
d3hV9j9KAyI-00469-00111611-00111863 come with that is you know we are a
d3hV9j9KAyI-00470-00111864-00112066 restaurant Brewery and the restaurant
d3hV9j9KAyI-00471-00112067-00112331 industry faces a lot of turnover and a
d3hV9j9KAyI-00472-00112332-00112558 lot of difficulties so we don't have a
d3hV9j9KAyI-00473-00112559-00112834 lot of long-term employees so therefore
d3hV9j9KAyI-00474-00112835-00113033 they're not really familiar with how the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00475-00113033-00113249 Democratic structure works what does it
d3hV9j9KAyI-00476-00113250-00113554 even mean to be in a co-op and just like
d3hV9j9KAyI-00477-00113555-00113825 historical knowledge that's needed to
d3hV9j9KAyI-00478-00113826-00114047 run the co-op
d3hV9j9KAyI-00479-00114048-00114227 um the longest employee that we have
d3hV9j9KAyI-00480-00114228-00114604 right now is about two and a half years
d3hV9j9KAyI-00481-00114605-00114971 um and we've been open for almost 13.
d3hV9j9KAyI-00482-00114972-00115145 um some other really difficult things
d3hV9j9KAyI-00483-00115146-00115384 that we Face are the pandemic was really
d3hV9j9KAyI-00484-00115385-00115571 unkind to most businesses especially
d3hV9j9KAyI-00485-00115572-00115793 restaurants and so a lot of the reason
d3hV9j9KAyI-00486-00115794-00116110 why we're even open is because of uh
d3hV9j9KAyI-00487-00116111-00116297 Federal relief funding that we were able
d3hV9j9KAyI-00488-00116298-00116458 to receive like the payroll protection
d3hV9j9KAyI-00489-00116459-00116728 plan the restaurant revitalization fund
d3hV9j9KAyI-00490-00116729-00116999 and the employee retention credit
d3hV9j9KAyI-00491-00117000-00117202 um and to get into the legalities that
d3hV9j9KAyI-00492-00117203-00117419 it's extremely hard to file for federal
d3hV9j9KAyI-00493-00117420-00117628 funding when you don't have a sole owner
d3hV9j9KAyI-00494-00117629-00117851 who can file for that they typically
d3hV9j9KAyI-00495-00117852-00118066 want to know about 51 of your ownership
d3hV9j9KAyI-00496-00118067-00118210 and they want to know everything about
d3hV9j9KAyI-00497-00118211-00118384 that person
d3hV9j9KAyI-00498-00118385-00118565 um and that would be roughly 2 000
d3hV9j9KAyI-00499-00118566-00118786 people for us
d3hV9j9KAyI-00500-00118788-00118949 um so
d3hV9j9KAyI-00501-00118950-00119158 it's also very difficult we are in the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00502-00119159-00119339 state of Texas and I don't know if
d3hV9j9KAyI-00503-00119340-00119651 anybody else is from Texas but the TABC
d3hV9j9KAyI-00504-00119652-00119981 laws which is our beverage commission
d3hV9j9KAyI-00505-00119982-00120257 for alcoholic beverage it's also very
d3hV9j9KAyI-00506-00120258-00120515 difficult to
d3hV9j9KAyI-00507-00120516-00120581 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-00508-00120582-00120893 to distribute beer and to maintain a
d3hV9j9KAyI-00509-00120894-00121139 liquor license when you can't report on
d3hV9j9KAyI-00510-00121140-00121457 51 of your ownership structure so we
d3hV9j9KAyI-00511-00121458-00121636 have to jump all of these hurdles in
d3hV9j9KAyI-00512-00121638-00121907 order to maintain our liquor license and
d3hV9j9KAyI-00513-00121908-00122075 maintain that we are able to serve
d3hV9j9KAyI-00514-00122076-00122333 alcohol beverages
d3hV9j9KAyI-00515-00122333-00122549 um the other difficult thing about our
d3hV9j9KAyI-00516-00122550-00122878 Cooperative I would say is that 4 000
d3hV9j9KAyI-00517-00122879-00123083 people make up our owners
d3hV9j9KAyI-00518-00123083-00123263 um and they're very excited about Black
d3hV9j9KAyI-00519-00123264-00123484 Star they're very excited that we have
d3hV9j9KAyI-00520-00123485-00123689 award-winning beer that our staff is
d3hV9j9KAyI-00521-00123690-00123940 treated fairly and that you can get good
d3hV9j9KAyI-00522-00123941-00124163 food there but not a lot of them know
d3hV9j9KAyI-00523-00124164-00124433 what it is to be a member of a co-op so
d3hV9j9KAyI-00524-00124433-00124589 a lot of them just join because they're
d3hV9j9KAyI-00525-00124590-00124781 like oh I get cheaper beer if I'm a
d3hV9j9KAyI-00526-00124782-00124913 member
d3hV9j9KAyI-00527-00124914-00125110 um so when we do have elections for the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00528-00125111-00125333 bylaws when we do release our annual
d3hV9j9KAyI-00529-00125333-00125560 reports when we do have elections for
d3hV9j9KAyI-00530-00125561-00125813 the board of directors
d3hV9j9KAyI-00531-00125814-00126107 um it can kind of get selected by people
d3hV9j9KAyI-00532-00126108-00126251 who don't really know what's going on
d3hV9j9KAyI-00533-00126252-00126395 and don't really know why they're making
d3hV9j9KAyI-00534-00126396-00126547 the choices that they need to be making
d3hV9j9KAyI-00535-00126548-00126778 and that has a lot of effect on the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00536-00126779-00126983 workers
d3hV9j9KAyI-00537-00126983-00127265 hmm
d3hV9j9KAyI-00538-00127266-00127475 to clarify it sounds like a lot of the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00539-00127476-00127666 problems we had were just with the co-op
d3hV9j9KAyI-00540-00127667-00127877 structure in general with vis-a-vis the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00541-00127878-00128069 programs I mean it was so it wasn't the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00542-00128070-00128189 fact that you had a worker Council
d3hV9j9KAyI-00543-00128190-00128339 running it it was a fact that you just
d3hV9j9KAyI-00544-00128340-00128543 had a whole bunch of owners is that
d3hV9j9KAyI-00545-00128544-00128801 right yes it's very hard to apply for
d3hV9j9KAyI-00546-00128802-00128927 federal funding
d3hV9j9KAyI-00547-00128928-00128986 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-00548-00128988-00129401 and get that whenever you don't have one
d3hV9j9KAyI-00549-00129402-00129784 owner or just a small group of owners
d3hV9j9KAyI-00550-00129785-00130019 um especially because our board is
d3hV9j9KAyI-00551-00130020-00130264 reelected every three years so we found
d3hV9j9KAyI-00552-00130265-00130408 a loophole where our board president
d3hV9j9KAyI-00553-00130409-00130828 could be listed as our owner and she
d3hV9j9KAyI-00554-00130829-00131051 could sign all of the documents but now
d3hV9j9KAyI-00555-00131052-00131237 that it's time to actually report on all
d3hV9j9KAyI-00556-00131238-00131387 the government funding that we received
d3hV9j9KAyI-00557-00131388-00131645 we have a different board president and
d3hV9j9KAyI-00558-00131646-00131819 trying to work with the Small Business
d3hV9j9KAyI-00559-00131820-00132149 Association and trying to get relief on
d3hV9j9KAyI-00560-00132150-00132401 all of those things they're like why are
d3hV9j9KAyI-00561-00132402-00132569 you changing owners like why can't she
d3hV9j9KAyI-00562-00132570-00132833 just be the person to sign again yeah so
d3hV9j9KAyI-00563-00132834-00132978 that's not the president anymore so
d3hV9j9KAyI-00564-00132979-00133289 that's a problem lots of Co-op run into
d3hV9j9KAyI-00565-00133290-00133552 it all those days okay
d3hV9j9KAyI-00566-00133553-00133781 um and maybe I just just to follow up on
d3hV9j9KAyI-00567-00133782-00133997 just doing my own questions but you know
d3hV9j9KAyI-00568-00133998-00134171 um so I have there I mean it sounds like
d3hV9j9KAyI-00569-00134172-00134302 there have been workers that were
d3hV9j9KAyI-00570-00134303-00134489 elected to the board in the past do you
d3hV9j9KAyI-00571-00134490-00134609 know why they're there aren't any right
d3hV9j9KAyI-00572-00134610-00134831 now I mean are people you know this
d3hV9j9KAyI-00573-00134832-00134987 current crew just knew and they're not
d3hV9j9KAyI-00574-00134988-00135154 really you're not interested or do you
d3hV9j9KAyI-00575-00135155-00135340 have a thought on that question
d3hV9j9KAyI-00576-00135341-00135623 I think the workforce has changed a lot
d3hV9j9KAyI-00577-00135624-00135881 and while a lot of people are really
d3hV9j9KAyI-00578-00135882-00136073 interested in getting more involved in
d3hV9j9KAyI-00579-00136074-00136378 their workplace and seeing like change
d3hV9j9KAyI-00580-00136379-00136577 that they want to enact a lot of people
d3hV9j9KAyI-00581-00136578-00136739 also just want to come to work and
d3hV9j9KAyI-00582-00136740-00136954 collect a paycheck just want to do the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00583-00136955-00137164 best job that they can and not get more
d3hV9j9KAyI-00584-00137165-00137357 involved than they need to be
d3hV9j9KAyI-00585-00137358-00137585 um so we are seeing that shift as well
d3hV9j9KAyI-00586-00137586-00137849 as you do have to pay to become a member
d3hV9j9KAyI-00587-00137850-00138173 owner just like anybody else and that is
d3hV9j9KAyI-00588-00138174-00138364 a barrier for employees like do I really
d3hV9j9KAyI-00589-00138365-00138659 want to invest in my restaurant or do I
d3hV9j9KAyI-00590-00138660-00138778 just want to go there and collect a
d3hV9j9KAyI-00591-00138779-00138916 paycheck
d3hV9j9KAyI-00592-00138917-00139037 um and you do have to be a member owner
d3hV9j9KAyI-00593-00139038-00139235 to run for the board as well
d3hV9j9KAyI-00594-00139236-00139475 okay all right thank you
d3hV9j9KAyI-00595-00139476-00139613 um so Fred can you talk about it
d3hV9j9KAyI-00596-00139614-00139823 Mondragon what exactly um and you're
d3hV9j9KAyI-00597-00139824-00139957 part of so the university is
d3hV9j9KAyI-00598-00139958-00140177 multi-stakeholder and I know Rossi's
d3hV9j9KAyI-00599-00140178-00140387 multi-stakeholder and there's other
d3hV9j9KAyI-00600-00140388-00140597 multi-stakeholder co-ops in the in the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00601-00140598-00140716 monogram
d3hV9j9KAyI-00602-00140717-00140951 um group so how does joint ownership and
d3hV9j9KAyI-00603-00140952-00141173 governance work for for these kinds of
d3hV9j9KAyI-00604-00141174-00141364 co-ops and are there challenges that you
d3hV9j9KAyI-00605-00141365-00141545 face because of it
d3hV9j9KAyI-00606-00141546-00141743 um or is it or because you live in
d3hV9j9KAyI-00607-00141744-00141899 worker Co-op Heaven you don't have any
d3hV9j9KAyI-00608-00141900-00142199 challenges at all that's what
d3hV9j9KAyI-00609-00142200-00142451 right this is workers Paradise we have
d3hV9j9KAyI-00610-00142452-00142673 no challenges or problems exactly that's
d3hV9j9KAyI-00611-00142674-00143027 what we all want yeah no um I mean the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00612-00143028-00143387 fact that for all of the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00613-00143388-00143639 uh good circumstances that led to
d3hV9j9KAyI-00614-00143640-00143837 modern's development
d3hV9j9KAyI-00615-00143838-00143952 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-00616-00143953-00144257 I mean they came upon the idea of
d3hV9j9KAyI-00617-00144258-00144499 creating multi-stakeholder co-ops
d3hV9j9KAyI-00618-00144500-00144881 jointly very early on it was still the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00619-00144882-00145211 Franco regime the dictatorship by the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00620-00145212-00145535 time democracy was uh reinstalled in
d3hV9j9KAyI-00621-00145536-00145859 Spain in in the mid 70s there was a
d3hV9j9KAyI-00622-00145860-00146009 large multi-stick it was a large
d3hV9j9KAyI-00623-00146010-00146152 Cooperative group with lots of
d3hV9j9KAyI-00624-00146153-00146428 multi-stakeholder co-ops and so because
d3hV9j9KAyI-00625-00146429-00146633 of underground's presence influence
d3hV9j9KAyI-00626-00146634-00146873 communication
d3hV9j9KAyI-00627-00146874-00146987 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-00628-00146988-00147178 Co-op legislation
d3hV9j9KAyI-00629-00147179-00147419 pretty easily began to reflect that so
d3hV9j9KAyI-00630-00147420-00147628 there was no problem legally
d3hV9j9KAyI-00631-00147629-00147785 legislatively to create a
d3hV9j9KAyI-00632-00147786-00147971 multi-stakeholder co-op with whatever
d3hV9j9KAyI-00633-00147972-00148157 kind of member you might be interested
d3hV9j9KAyI-00634-00148158-00148337 in including
d3hV9j9KAyI-00635-00148338-00148685 and then government bodies began to
d3hV9j9KAyI-00636-00148686-00148925 provide funding mechanisms for multi
d3hV9j9KAyI-00637-00148926-00149104 specifically for multi-stakeholder
d3hV9j9KAyI-00638-00149105-00149393 co-ops which has been very helpful for
d3hV9j9KAyI-00639-00149394-00149611 for different co-ops over over the years
d3hV9j9KAyI-00640-00149612-00149843 there are lots of challenges though I
d3hV9j9KAyI-00641-00149844-00150035 mean all of the challenges that all
d3hV9j9KAyI-00642-00150036-00150263 multi-stakeholder co-ops have with
d3hV9j9KAyI-00643-00150264-00150628 respect or all co-ops have with respect
d3hV9j9KAyI-00644-00150629-00150911 to ensuring different voices are well
d3hV9j9KAyI-00645-00150912-00151061 represented
d3hV9j9KAyI-00646-00151062-00151128 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-00647-00151129-00151402 ensuring ensuring that that their voices
d3hV9j9KAyI-00648-00151403-00151727 are real and ensuring that their uh the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00649-00151728-00151978 voices are really heard
d3hV9j9KAyI-00650-00151979-00152164 um especially as co-ops get larger of
d3hV9j9KAyI-00651-00152165-00152269 course
d3hV9j9KAyI-00652-00152270-00152464 ensuring that the board has enough
d3hV9j9KAyI-00653-00152465-00152837 technical expertise to really be able to
d3hV9j9KAyI-00654-00152838-00153137 Monitor and contribute to strategy and
d3hV9j9KAyI-00655-00153138-00153340 to monitor Management in the progress of
d3hV9j9KAyI-00656-00153341-00153676 the company and to contribute uh to
d3hV9j9KAyI-00657-00153677-00153964 developing strategy and policy with with
d3hV9j9KAyI-00658-00153965-00154325 management and with and and with as
d3hV9j9KAyI-00659-00154326-00154583 broad a large number of worker and other
d3hV9j9KAyI-00660-00154584-00154835 members as possible
d3hV9j9KAyI-00661-00154836-00155147 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-00662-00155148-00155525 there's also the issue of
d3hV9j9KAyI-00663-00155526-00155716 can get too big
d3hV9j9KAyI-00664-00155717-00155939 and some of you may know that two big
d3hV9j9KAyI-00665-00155940-00156214 co-ops Co-op groups
d3hV9j9KAyI-00666-00156215-00156454 partially significantly left them on
d3hV9j9KAyI-00667-00156455-00156664 their own structure in December
d3hV9j9KAyI-00668-00156665-00156875 and there's lots of debate about why and
d3hV9j9KAyI-00669-00156876-00157135 lots of different points of view
d3hV9j9KAyI-00670-00157136-00157349 but it certainly seems to raise the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00671-00157350-00157457 question
d3hV9j9KAyI-00672-00157458-00157787 whether a multi-stakeholder co-op that
d3hV9j9KAyI-00673-00157788-00158128 involves co-ops as members can get too
d3hV9j9KAyI-00674-00158129-00158375 big and even though its governance
d3hV9j9KAyI-00675-00158376-00158699 bodies are representative uh governance
d3hV9j9KAyI-00676-00158700-00158987 bodies ultimately representative bodies
d3hV9j9KAyI-00677-00158988-00159293 become small and can this lead to the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00678-00159294-00159589 perception if not the reality who knows
d3hV9j9KAyI-00679-00159590-00159875 of those represent those governance
d3hV9j9KAyI-00680-00159876-00160145 bodies favoring certain sectors or
d3hV9j9KAyI-00681-00160146-00160475 certain Geographic areas over others
d3hV9j9KAyI-00682-00160476-00160871 or and or diminishing the autonomy of
d3hV9j9KAyI-00683-00160872-00161219 those sectors or or areas so it's led to
d3hV9j9KAyI-00684-00161220-00161609 it's led to a big debate about that and
d3hV9j9KAyI-00685-00161610-00161728 that's another another one of the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00686-00161729-00161939 challenges I mean I owe I you know
d3hV9j9KAyI-00687-00161940-00162239 people always recommend to other co-ops
d3hV9j9KAyI-00688-00162240-00162581 to create uh multi-stakeholder co-ops
d3hV9j9KAyI-00689-00162582-00162911 that involve co-ops working together
d3hV9j9KAyI-00690-00162912-00163175 cooperation among co-ops but it does
d3hV9j9KAyI-00691-00163176-00163690 lead to these challenges
d3hV9j9KAyI-00692-00163691-00163907 okay
d3hV9j9KAyI-00693-00163908-00164093 all right thank you and then Elizabeth
d3hV9j9KAyI-00694-00164094-00164231 Could you
d3hV9j9KAyI-00695-00164232-00164393 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-00696-00164394-00164645 contribute to this in terms of of at
d3hV9j9KAyI-00697-00164646-00164831 least how if not ownership but maybe
d3hV9j9KAyI-00698-00164832-00164987 governance or joint influence or
d3hV9j9KAyI-00699-00164988-00165149 something works so what challenges have
d3hV9j9KAyI-00700-00165150-00165311 you come up with legal challenges or
d3hV9j9KAyI-00701-00165312-00165521 financial challenges
d3hV9j9KAyI-00702-00165522-00165761 um that arise from from trying to
d3hV9j9KAyI-00703-00165762-00166013 involve multiple stakeholders in your
d3hV9j9KAyI-00704-00166014-00166289 organization in some way
d3hV9j9KAyI-00705-00166290-00166513 foreign
d3hV9j9KAyI-00706-00166514-00166751 myself thank you
d3hV9j9KAyI-00707-00166752-00166931 um that's a really these are this is so
d3hV9j9KAyI-00708-00166932-00167135 fascinating so
d3hV9j9KAyI-00709-00167136-00167431 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-00710-00167432-00167861 the the co-op has a traditional board
d3hV9j9KAyI-00711-00167862-00168052 structure
d3hV9j9KAyI-00712-00168053-00168143 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-00713-00168144-00168431 and there are three seats that can be
d3hV9j9KAyI-00714-00168432-00168923 filled by uh workers employees
d3hV9j9KAyI-00715-00168924-00169337 um and no one ever runs
d3hV9j9KAyI-00716-00169338-00169439 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-00717-00169440-00169631 and I'm not sure why that is I think a
d3hV9j9KAyI-00718-00169632-00169859 lot of it is we're workers and a lot of
d3hV9j9KAyI-00719-00169860-00170099 people are paycheck to paycheck and
d3hV9j9KAyI-00720-00170100-00170471 we're tired and we do enough at work as
d3hV9j9KAyI-00721-00170472-00170801 it is and um
d3hV9j9KAyI-00722-00170802-00170963 folks are
d3hV9j9KAyI-00723-00170964-00171149 especially after these last three years
d3hV9j9KAyI-00724-00171150-00171376 you know pretty burned out
d3hV9j9KAyI-00725-00171377-00171604 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-00726-00171605-00171913 and
d3hV9j9KAyI-00727-00171914-00172181 interestingly we have a staff rep who
d3hV9j9KAyI-00728-00172182-00172378 sits on the council
d3hV9j9KAyI-00729-00172379-00172661 who is a bargaining unit member a member
d3hV9j9KAyI-00730-00172662-00172787 of the Union
d3hV9j9KAyI-00731-00172788-00173002 but they're a non-voting member of the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00732-00173003-00173099 council
d3hV9j9KAyI-00733-00173100-00173321 and they can't sit in on Executive
d3hV9j9KAyI-00734-00173322-00173723 session and that's another key point
d3hV9j9KAyI-00735-00173724-00174143 if I as an employee were to go and run
d3hV9j9KAyI-00736-00174144-00174449 for the council and get on the council I
d3hV9j9KAyI-00737-00174450-00174664 would be excluded from executive dis
d3hV9j9KAyI-00738-00174665-00174916 session
d3hV9j9KAyI-00739-00174917-00175283 so
d3hV9j9KAyI-00740-00175284-00175487 there's there's a lack of transparency
d3hV9j9KAyI-00741-00175488-00175619 there
d3hV9j9KAyI-00742-00175620-00175852 um and I can understand why in some
d3hV9j9KAyI-00743-00175853-00176021 cases but
d3hV9j9KAyI-00744-00176022-00176375 it there's big decisions being made in
d3hV9j9KAyI-00745-00176376-00176735 those executive sessions and that and um
d3hV9j9KAyI-00746-00176736-00176993 I could say that I believe that our
d3hV9j9KAyI-00747-00176994-00177214 Council tends to hold things in
d3hV9j9KAyI-00748-00177215-00177347 executive session that it doesn't
d3hV9j9KAyI-00749-00177348-00177593 necessarily need to
d3hV9j9KAyI-00750-00177594-00177869 um and I just want to add in here that
d3hV9j9KAyI-00751-00177870-00178138 um I am a unionized worker we are one of
d3hV9j9KAyI-00752-00178139-00178481 the only locals in the United States if
d3hV9j9KAyI-00753-00178482-00178685 not the only that has a free speech
d3hV9j9KAyI-00754-00178686-00178997 clause in our Union contract I want to
d3hV9j9KAyI-00755-00178998-00179176 clarify that I am not representing my
d3hV9j9KAyI-00756-00179177-00179416 employer in this conversation and I am
d3hV9j9KAyI-00757-00179417-00179554 saying those things so that I don't get
d3hV9j9KAyI-00758-00179555-00179801 disciplined or fired
d3hV9j9KAyI-00759-00179802-00179999 so
d3hV9j9KAyI-00760-00180000-00180073 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-00761-00180074-00180359 yes are there legal conflicts absolutely
d3hV9j9KAyI-00762-00180360-00180863 and between the union and the co-op
d3hV9j9KAyI-00763-00180864-00181007 um it's different than a regular
d3hV9j9KAyI-00764-00181008-00181259 employment situation if somebody has
d3hV9j9KAyI-00765-00181260-00181487 agreements against the co-op
d3hV9j9KAyI-00766-00181488-00181793 they there's a process for that and it
d3hV9j9KAyI-00767-00181794-00182014 ends in an arbitration and uh an
d3hV9j9KAyI-00768-00182015-00182188 arbitrator comes in listens to both
d3hV9j9KAyI-00769-00182189-00182495 sides and makes a decision and then both
d3hV9j9KAyI-00770-00182496-00182633 sides have to live with that going
d3hV9j9KAyI-00771-00182634-00182807 forward
d3hV9j9KAyI-00772-00182808-00183035 um whether we like it or not and of
d3hV9j9KAyI-00773-00183036-00183376 course if we don't win we don't like it
d3hV9j9KAyI-00774-00183377-00183575 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-00775-00183576-00183743 there's probably a lot more that I could
d3hV9j9KAyI-00776-00183744-00183904 say but in the interest of time I'll
d3hV9j9KAyI-00777-00183905-00184373 I'll pass for now thank you
d3hV9j9KAyI-00778-00184374-00184625 okay so that was an interesting point
d3hV9j9KAyI-00779-00184626-00184745 just to
d3hV9j9KAyI-00780-00184746-00184973 um Circle back to some of to uh waiver
d3hV9j9KAyI-00781-00184974-00185171 stud Elena and Fred where you actually
d3hV9j9KAyI-00782-00185172-00185338 do have workers on the board is there
d3hV9j9KAyI-00783-00185339-00185519 are there anything that that worker
d3hV9j9KAyI-00784-00185520-00185723 board members I mean are they can they
d3hV9j9KAyI-00785-00185724-00185885 sit in executive session are there
d3hV9j9KAyI-00786-00185886-00186016 anything that they're not allowed to do
d3hV9j9KAyI-00787-00186017-00186269 because they're workers as well as board
d3hV9j9KAyI-00788-00186270-00186473 members could do
d3hV9j9KAyI-00789-00186474-00186737 um Elena and then Fred could you
d3hV9j9KAyI-00790-00186738-00186899 comment on that
d3hV9j9KAyI-00791-00186900-00187216 yeah so our worker owners do sit in on
d3hV9j9KAyI-00792-00187217-00187409 Executive session
d3hV9j9KAyI-00793-00187410-00187564 um they are essentially they are full
d3hV9j9KAyI-00794-00187565-00187751 board members all around
d3hV9j9KAyI-00795-00187752-00187966 um if there is an issue that seems like
d3hV9j9KAyI-00796-00187967-00188116 it may be compromising in one way or
d3hV9j9KAyI-00797-00188117-00188338 another we are definitely you know we
d3hV9j9KAyI-00798-00188339-00188549 have the open conversation of whether we
d3hV9j9KAyI-00799-00188550-00188728 would recuse ourselves or whether other
d3hV9j9KAyI-00800-00188729-00188914 board members feel like it would not be
d3hV9j9KAyI-00801-00188915-00189137 appropriate but overall yes board
d3hV9j9KAyI-00802-00189138-00189407 members are there for everything
d3hV9j9KAyI-00803-00189408-00189575 um speaking as the board chair I
d3hV9j9KAyI-00804-00189576-00189785 essentially you know I helped to design
d3hV9j9KAyI-00805-00189786-00190054 the agenda for each meeting so designing
d3hV9j9KAyI-00806-00190055-00190295 the business meeting the executive
d3hV9j9KAyI-00807-00190296-00190433 sessions everything like that yeah
d3hV9j9KAyI-00808-00190434-00190607 that's the full responsibility of a
d3hV9j9KAyI-00809-00190608-00190783 worker owner on the board
d3hV9j9KAyI-00810-00190784-00191075 okay and then Fred just in the monogram
d3hV9j9KAyI-00811-00191076-00191309 co-ops are there are there things that
d3hV9j9KAyI-00812-00191310-00191416 are in the in the ones that are
d3hV9j9KAyI-00813-00191417-00191590 multi-stakeholder are there anything any
d3hV9j9KAyI-00814-00191591-00191776 difference between the workers that sit
d3hV9j9KAyI-00815-00191777-00191987 on that board or other end consumers
d3hV9j9KAyI-00816-00191988-00192214 that sit on the board
d3hV9j9KAyI-00817-00192215-00192490 no no there are no differences there
d3hV9j9KAyI-00818-00192491-00192713 they take part in in any in every
d3hV9j9KAyI-00819-00192714-00192976 decision and uh and have right to all
d3hV9j9KAyI-00820-00192977-00193133 information Etc
d3hV9j9KAyI-00821-00193134-00193207 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-00822-00193208-00193523 non-worker members in several
d3hV9j9KAyI-00823-00193524-00193854 multi-stakeholder co-ops uh
d3hV9j9KAyI-00824-00193855-00194159 boards in some multi-stakeholder co-ops
d3hV9j9KAyI-00825-00194160-00194395 have created a sub board
d3hV9j9KAyI-00826-00194396-00194728 that's just to deal with worker issues
d3hV9j9KAyI-00827-00194729-00194975 worker member issues and this is always
d3hV9j9KAyI-00828-00194976-00195209 voted on by the full board and the full
d3hV9j9KAyI-00829-00195210-00195533 board uh negotiates what kinds of
d3hV9j9KAyI-00830-00195534-00195826 decisions the sub board the worker sub
d3hV9j9KAyI-00831-00195827-00196090 board might make and which ones that
d3hV9j9KAyI-00832-00196091-00196228 have to be informed about which ones
d3hV9j9KAyI-00833-00196229-00196373 they need to participate in that kind of
d3hV9j9KAyI-00834-00196374-00196625 thing so in multi-stakeholder co-ops
d3hV9j9KAyI-00835-00196626-00196866 some in some kinds of decisions
d3hV9j9KAyI-00836-00196867-00197273 non-worker members don't participate
d3hV9j9KAyI-00837-00197274-00197549 okay and um
d3hV9j9KAyI-00838-00197550-00197752 George did you wanna
d3hV9j9KAyI-00839-00197753-00198113 yeah thank you just for a sec I just
d3hV9j9KAyI-00840-00198114-00198383 wanted to mention to the panelists not
d3hV9j9KAyI-00841-00198384-00198551 that we want to distract you from this
d3hV9j9KAyI-00842-00198552-00198778 wonderful conversation but if you can
d3hV9j9KAyI-00843-00198779-00199175 glance at the Q a occasionally there are
d3hV9j9KAyI-00844-00199176-00199397 some very specific questions in there
d3hV9j9KAyI-00845-00199398-00199793 about specific co-ops and I think those
d3hV9j9KAyI-00846-00199794-00199990 could be answered quickly in the chat
d3hV9j9KAyI-00847-00199991-00200183 and then we'll hold the broader
d3hV9j9KAyI-00848-00200184-00200452 questions till later for discussion
d3hV9j9KAyI-00849-00200453-00200681 okay I'll try to pay attention too
d3hV9j9KAyI-00850-00200682-00200831 because um one that just came through
d3hV9j9KAyI-00851-00200832-00200933 which I thought was really interesting
d3hV9j9KAyI-00852-00200934-00201113 as those of you that that there are
d3hV9j9KAyI-00853-00201114-00201281 workers on the board are there any like
d3hV9j9KAyI-00854-00201282-00201473 are they management are there any
d3hV9j9KAyI-00855-00201474-00201664 workers is there a restriction can
d3hV9j9KAyI-00856-00201665-00201838 certain manager can managers not or the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00857-00201839-00202019 managers are only or whatever is there
d3hV9j9KAyI-00858-00202020-00202126 anything that has to do with somebody's
d3hV9j9KAyI-00859-00202127-00202421 job that also you know impacts their
d3hV9j9KAyI-00860-00202422-00202726 board membership
d3hV9j9KAyI-00861-00202727-00202876 um I can answer that question yeah for
d3hV9j9KAyI-00862-00202877-00203225 black star uh at Black Star we don't
d3hV9j9KAyI-00863-00203226-00203488 have a GM as of right now we have what
d3hV9j9KAyI-00864-00203489-00203650 is called the board stuff liaison and
d3hV9j9KAyI-00865-00203651-00203795 that sits at the head of our team
d3hV9j9KAyI-00866-00203796-00203987 manager Council
d3hV9j9KAyI-00867-00203988-00204226 um I am the board stuff liaison and I am
d3hV9j9KAyI-00868-00204227-00204526 not allowed to sit on the board
d3hV9j9KAyI-00869-00204527-00204683 um and I am the only worker that is
d3hV9j9KAyI-00870-00204684-00205121 restricted from sitting on the board
d3hV9j9KAyI-00871-00205121-00205342 for Weaver Street all workers
d3hV9j9KAyI-00872-00205344-00205564 um as long as you're a worker owner but
d3hV9j9KAyI-00873-00205565-00205727 once you are a worker owner everybody
d3hV9j9KAyI-00874-00205728-00205907 can serve on the board so it does not
d3hV9j9KAyI-00875-00205908-00206362 matter your position in operations
d3hV9j9KAyI-00876-00206363-00206608 yeah
d3hV9j9KAyI-00877-00206609-00206764 okay
d3hV9j9KAyI-00878-00206765-00206921 I just want to add one quick thing about
d3hV9j9KAyI-00879-00206921-00207058 Weaver Street that I think is important
d3hV9j9KAyI-00880-00207059-00207340 and it'll be quick but we uh the workers
d3hV9j9KAyI-00881-00207341-00207532 on the board don't represent the workers
d3hV9j9KAyI-00882-00207533-00207803 like in a direct sense
d3hV9j9KAyI-00883-00207804-00207979 um and it's something that is sometimes
d3hV9j9KAyI-00884-00207980-00208234 really unique a little bit unique so
d3hV9j9KAyI-00885-00208235-00208421 like everyone on the board represents
d3hV9j9KAyI-00886-00208421-00208696 the entire Co-op right um and we're a
d3hV9j9KAyI-00887-00208698-00208864 consensus board
d3hV9j9KAyI-00888-00208865-00208990 um and so that's really the only way
d3hV9j9KAyI-00889-00208991-00209144 that that works
d3hV9j9KAyI-00890-00209146-00209188 [Music]
d3hV9j9KAyI-00891-00209189-00209266 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-00892-00209267-00209698 so let's go
d3hV9j9KAyI-00893-00209700-00209921 yeah so you're not a direct Senator but
d3hV9j9KAyI-00894-00209921-00210239 your experience is beneficial is that I
d3hV9j9KAyI-00895-00210240-00210329 mean that's
d3hV9j9KAyI-00896-00210330-00210557 okay all right good
d3hV9j9KAyI-00897-00210558-00210634 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-00898-00210635-00210863 so I'm gonna move on
d3hV9j9KAyI-00899-00210864-00210971 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-00900-00210971-00211175 to the kind of third question which has
d3hV9j9KAyI-00901-00211176-00211427 to do with uh with sort of development
d3hV9j9KAyI-00902-00211428-00211684 and modification and this is and and
d3hV9j9KAyI-00903-00211685-00211877 even if you guys who have experience in
d3hV9j9KAyI-00904-00211878-00212039 this could just think about like if you
d3hV9j9KAyI-00905-00212040-00212237 were starting a new one because that
d3hV9j9KAyI-00906-00212238-00212375 comes up a lot people have been asking
d3hV9j9KAyI-00907-00212376-00212489 me this a lot like how you know how
d3hV9j9KAyI-00908-00212490-00212710 should we do this we start a new one so
d3hV9j9KAyI-00909-00212711-00212891 one question is like if there have been
d3hV9j9KAyI-00910-00212892-00213065 modifications over the years and how
d3hV9j9KAyI-00911-00213066-00213263 like you started out with saying one way
d3hV9j9KAyI-00912-00213264-00213473 and you've changed the way you do
d3hV9j9KAyI-00913-00213473-00213737 something over time for some reason if
d3hV9j9KAyI-00914-00213738-00213892 you could talk about that made any
d3hV9j9KAyI-00915-00213894-00214163 modifications in the structure
d3hV9j9KAyI-00916-00214164-00214432 um over time and then also sort of in
d3hV9j9KAyI-00917-00214433-00214541 related
d3hV9j9KAyI-00918-00214542-00214703 um if you could think of those of you
d3hV9j9KAyI-00919-00214704-00215039 who do have either been on boards or
d3hV9j9KAyI-00920-00215040-00215279 have been in board meetings you know are
d3hV9j9KAyI-00921-00215280-00215441 there can you think of instances where
d3hV9j9KAyI-00922-00215442-00215555 you think the board made a really
d3hV9j9KAyI-00923-00215556-00215848 different decision because of of having
d3hV9j9KAyI-00924-00215850-00216119 workers on the board or you know
d3hV9j9KAyI-00925-00216119-00216317 represented in some way like did it make
d3hV9j9KAyI-00926-00216317-00216515 a difference like because that's one of
d3hV9j9KAyI-00927-00216516-00216646 the things people like well it's a lot
d3hV9j9KAyI-00928-00216648-00216779 of trouble right does it make a
d3hV9j9KAyI-00929-00216780-00216863 difference
d3hV9j9KAyI-00930-00216864-00217084 to the organization and to the board and
d3hV9j9KAyI-00931-00217085-00217294 so if you have any um
d3hV9j9KAyI-00932-00217296-00217469 any examples of where it's made a
d3hV9j9KAyI-00933-00217469-00217613 difference so both the structure if you
d3hV9j9KAyI-00934-00217614-00217751 change structure or you know is there
d3hV9j9KAyI-00935-00217752-00217894 anything about you have thoughts about
d3hV9j9KAyI-00936-00217896-00218098 how your Co-op is structured that's good
d3hV9j9KAyI-00937-00218100-00218260 or bad or you know that you've changed
d3hV9j9KAyI-00938-00218261-00218405 in it and what difference does it make
d3hV9j9KAyI-00939-00218406-00218639 so that's the thing so Weber Street
d3hV9j9KAyI-00940-00218640-00218903 which one of you is gonna
d3hV9j9KAyI-00941-00218904-00219389 go James okay please
d3hV9j9KAyI-00942-00219390-00219623 so I think that the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00943-00219623-00220001 um I was on the board in the mid 90s so
d3hV9j9KAyI-00944-00220002-00220198 we were a pretty young organization and
d3hV9j9KAyI-00945-00220200-00220475 it was a little bit of the Wild West uh
d3hV9j9KAyI-00946-00220476-00220660 quite honestly consumer owners and
d3hV9j9KAyI-00947-00220661-00220925 worker owners didn't understand that we
d3hV9j9KAyI-00948-00220926-00221171 represented the entirety of the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00949-00221171-00221446 ownership we didn't understand all of
d3hV9j9KAyI-00950-00221448-00221692 the nuances between what is governance
d3hV9j9KAyI-00951-00221694-00222005 and what is management and as a result
d3hV9j9KAyI-00952-00222006-00222298 the there was Strife
d3hV9j9KAyI-00953-00222300-00222803 um often and I think that that was
d3hV9j9KAyI-00954-00222804-00222977 really
d3hV9j9KAyI-00955-00222978-00223048 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-00956-00223050-00223481 our work was to actually discern
d3hV9j9KAyI-00957-00223482-00223787 how do we move forward in a way that has
d3hV9j9KAyI-00958-00223788-00224075 actually gonna make this better we did
d3hV9j9KAyI-00959-00224076-00224303 have uh consumer owners
d3hV9j9KAyI-00960-00224304-00224669 who were trying to engineer the worker
d3hV9j9KAyI-00961-00224669-00224831 owners off of the board and out of the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00962-00224832-00225089 ownership of the co-op so you know there
d3hV9j9KAyI-00963-00225090-00225346 was there was stuff you know there there
d3hV9j9KAyI-00964-00225348-00225521 were politics
d3hV9j9KAyI-00965-00225521-00225742 um I think the big breakthrough was uh
d3hV9j9KAyI-00966-00225744-00226055 with for us was when we adopted a policy
d3hV9j9KAyI-00967-00226056-00226439 governance model uh partly because it
d3hV9j9KAyI-00968-00226440-00226756 established clear road map for what was
d3hV9j9KAyI-00969-00226757-00227021 governance and what was operations and
d3hV9j9KAyI-00970-00227021-00227392 how do you keep the board members in
d3hV9j9KAyI-00971-00227394-00227692 their Lane and how do you keep the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00972-00227694-00227963 employees and management in its Lane and
d3hV9j9KAyI-00973-00227964-00228131 you know and what do those Lanes look
d3hV9j9KAyI-00974-00228132-00228256 like
d3hV9j9KAyI-00975-00228257-00228317 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-00976-00228317-00228641 so you know
d3hV9j9KAyI-00977-00228642-00228923 back in the back in the mid 90s into the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00978-00228923-00229192 into the late 90s we spent a ton of time
d3hV9j9KAyI-00979-00229194-00229427 doing that and we started with somebody
d3hV9j9KAyI-00980-00229428-00229667 else's sample policy manual and
d3hV9j9KAyI-00981-00229667-00229973 literally went through policies for
d3hV9j9KAyI-00982-00229973-00230171 meeting after meeting after meeting
d3hV9j9KAyI-00983-00230171-00230489 where we said does this solve the
d3hV9j9KAyI-00984-00230490-00230632 problems that we're having does this
d3hV9j9KAyI-00985-00230633-00230842 meet our needs what do we need to do in
d3hV9j9KAyI-00986-00230844-00231055 order to make this a policy that will be
d3hV9j9KAyI-00987-00231056-00231358 useful to the ownership of Weaver Street
d3hV9j9KAyI-00988-00231359-00231503 Market
d3hV9j9KAyI-00989-00231504-00231569 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-00990-00231569-00231905 you know and and and for you know over
d3hV9j9KAyI-00991-00231906-00232205 time it got easier as those things got
d3hV9j9KAyI-00992-00232206-00232732 resolved and uh By the time uh John uh
d3hV9j9KAyI-00993-00232733-00233003 came on to the uh board a couple three
d3hV9j9KAyI-00994-00233004-00233291 years after I left you know things were
d3hV9j9KAyI-00995-00233292-00233537 beginning to move in the right direction
d3hV9j9KAyI-00996-00233538-00233710 you know we were beginning to really
d3hV9j9KAyI-00997-00233711-00234094 gain some traction from that um Clarity
d3hV9j9KAyI-00998-00234096-00234406 of expectation about who who had which
d3hV9j9KAyI-00999-00234407-00234671 role and for what reasons
d3hV9j9KAyI-01000-00234671-00235060 um so I think that that was big for us I
d3hV9j9KAyI-01001-00235061-00235379 mean I quite honestly I think that uh
d3hV9j9KAyI-01002-00235380-00235621 it's been freeing
d3hV9j9KAyI-01003-00235621-00235925 for the various stakeholder groups in
d3hV9j9KAyI-01004-00235926-00236171 the co-op to understand
d3hV9j9KAyI-01005-00236171-00236321 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01006-00236321-00236537 how do we go forward what are we doing
d3hV9j9KAyI-01007-00236538-00236692 to make our decisions and how are we
d3hV9j9KAyI-01008-00236694-00237046 making sure that as a result that our
d3hV9j9KAyI-01009-00237048-00237323 decisions uh create the outcomes that
d3hV9j9KAyI-01010-00237323-00237442 we're trying to make in the world around
d3hV9j9KAyI-01011-00237444-00237634 us so
d3hV9j9KAyI-01012-00237635-00237784 you know
d3hV9j9KAyI-01013-00237785-00237856 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01014-00237857-00238271 I think uh the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01015-00238271-00238510 it doesn't I I won't say that it solves
d3hV9j9KAyI-01016-00238511-00238834 every problem and certainly uh you know
d3hV9j9KAyI-01017-00238835-00239123 I I recognize that
d3hV9j9KAyI-01018-00239123-00239417 um our structure isn't always in
d3hV9j9KAyI-01019-00239417-00239663 practice perfect and doesn't always feel
d3hV9j9KAyI-01020-00239664-00239915 exactly like what people wanted to feel
d3hV9j9KAyI-01021-00239916-00240310 like there is a componentry or a
d3hV9j9KAyI-01022-00240311-00240556 component of the worker owners that
d3hV9j9KAyI-01023-00240557-00240784 think that the worker owner
d3hV9j9KAyI-01024-00240785-00240965 Representatives should be more
d3hV9j9KAyI-01025-00240966-00241181 responsive to the needs of individual
d3hV9j9KAyI-01026-00241182-00241451 worker owners or the worker owners as a
d3hV9j9KAyI-01027-00241452-00241660 group as opposed to the needs of the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01028-00241661-00241996 ownership more broadly and similarly the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01029-00241998-00242146 consumer owners
d3hV9j9KAyI-01030-00242148-00242423 occasionally especially if they are very
d3hV9j9KAyI-01031-00242423-00242717 well versed in in co-ops might have a
d3hV9j9KAyI-01032-00242717-00242873 similar
d3hV9j9KAyI-01033-00242873-00243239 um wish from a different perspective so
d3hV9j9KAyI-01034-00243240-00243406 you know we still see that that's out
d3hV9j9KAyI-01035-00243407-00244294 there but this serves us pretty well
d3hV9j9KAyI-01036-00244296-00244534 okay thank you
d3hV9j9KAyI-01037-00244535-00244834 um so Madeline I do
d3hV9j9KAyI-01038-00244835-00245021 talk about black star in this question
d3hV9j9KAyI-01039-00245021-00245248 have you made some changes and and what
d3hV9j9KAyI-01040-00245250-00245465 difference do you think it makes
d3hV9j9KAyI-01041-00245466-00245705 um that your structure makes in your
d3hV9j9KAyI-01042-00245706-00245969 organization
d3hV9j9KAyI-01043-00245969-00246191 um so yeah so as well as being a
d3hV9j9KAyI-01044-00246192-00246394 Cooperative black star is also a
d3hV9j9KAyI-01045-00246396-00246623 democratic workplace
d3hV9j9KAyI-01046-00246623-00246958 um and when box star started in 2006 we
d3hV9j9KAyI-01047-00246959-00247127 didn't have a GM
d3hV9j9KAyI-01048-00247128-00247342 um we still don't for all intents and
d3hV9j9KAyI-01049-00247344-00247582 purposes like when it comes to signing
d3hV9j9KAyI-01050-00247583-00247913 documents and the person who has to lay
d3hV9j9KAyI-01051-00247914-00248173 down the law sometimes that's me
d3hV9j9KAyI-01052-00248173-00248506 as I make my exit from Black Star this
d3hV9j9KAyI-01053-00248507-00248975 month I the board has now said that we
d3hV9j9KAyI-01054-00248976-00249256 are going to have a GM so the workers
d3hV9j9KAyI-01055-00249257-00249437 assembly is now tasked with either
d3hV9j9KAyI-01056-00249438-00249719 promoting from within or hiring an
d3hV9j9KAyI-01057-00249719-00250037 external GM I think a lot of the reason
d3hV9j9KAyI-01058-00250038-00250265 this has been a long conversation since
d3hV9j9KAyI-01059-00250266-00250469 before I even started at Black Star
d3hV9j9KAyI-01060-00250469-00250732 about the potential of having a GM
d3hV9j9KAyI-01061-00250733-00251129 versus just having four team managers uh
d3hV9j9KAyI-01062-00251130-00251410 kind of guide the ship together
d3hV9j9KAyI-01063-00251411-00251596 um but the board has decided that
d3hV9j9KAyI-01064-00251598-00251892 without a GM we can't accomplish
d3hV9j9KAyI-01065-00251894-00252210 accountability profitability and growth
d3hV9j9KAyI-01066-00252211-00252634 because we don't have a central person
d3hV9j9KAyI-01067-00252635-00252856 um and we don't have somebody who's a
d3hV9j9KAyI-01068-00252857-00253223 board can directly hold accountable
d3hV9j9KAyI-01069-00253223-00253715 um for lack of uh compliance with our
d3hV9j9KAyI-01070-00253716-00253829 governments
d3hV9j9KAyI-01071-00253830-00254105 so that is a really big change to Black
d3hV9j9KAyI-01072-00254106-00254369 Star structure uh for the past 13 years
d3hV9j9KAyI-01073-00254369-00254675 we have operated without a GM
d3hV9j9KAyI-01074-00254676-00254951 um and it will be very interesting to
d3hV9j9KAyI-01075-00254952-00255167 see how they operate with the GM after I
d3hV9j9KAyI-01076-00255167-00255629 leave
d3hV9j9KAyI-01077-00255630-00255965 okay cool
d3hV9j9KAyI-01078-00255966-00256121 um Fred would you like to address that
d3hV9j9KAyI-01079-00256121-00256234 question
d3hV9j9KAyI-01080-00256235-00256319 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01081-00256319-00256498 if there have been kind of changes in
d3hV9j9KAyI-01082-00256500-00256648 the way that that
d3hV9j9KAyI-01083-00256650-00256758 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01084-00256759-00257032 multi-stakeholderism has practiced and
d3hV9j9KAyI-01085-00257033-00257267 your co-ops and what difference does it
d3hV9j9KAyI-01086-00257267-00257405 make in the decision I mean does it even
d3hV9j9KAyI-01087-00257406-00257584 make a difference to have different
d3hV9j9KAyI-01088-00257585-00257992 people at the table
d3hV9j9KAyI-01089-00257994-00258203 sure it's all over the map as you might
d3hV9j9KAyI-01090-00258204-00258505 imagine with um there are over 20
d3hV9j9KAyI-01091-00258506-00258760 multi-stakeholder co-ops in in the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01092-00258761-00258982 month-run group though all kinds of
d3hV9j9KAyI-01093-00258983-00259139 places where where workers are
d3hV9j9KAyI-01094-00259140-00259427 essentially silent and it would take
d3hV9j9KAyI-01095-00259428-00259667 you know serious research to figure out
d3hV9j9KAyI-01096-00259667-00259798 what influence they have there are
d3hV9j9KAyI-01097-00259800-00260015 others where they have significant
d3hV9j9KAyI-01098-00260016-00260321 influence thinking of my own Co-op where
d3hV9j9KAyI-01099-00260321-00260806 I have witnessed experienced uh
d3hV9j9KAyI-01100-00260807-00261071 so that in my own co-op in the in the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01101-00261071-00261227 business school in in the University
d3hV9j9KAyI-01102-00261228-00261425 there are three constituencies there are
d3hV9j9KAyI-01103-00261426-00261592 workers workers have a third of the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01104-00261594-00261991 seats in the ga and the board
d3hV9j9KAyI-01105-00261992-00262223 students have a third of the seats and
d3hV9j9KAyI-01106-00262224-00262421 collaborating co-ops have a third of the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01107-00262422-00262805 seats and when we um has been worried
d3hV9j9KAyI-01108-00262806-00263023 about creating new co-ops and
d3hV9j9KAyI-01109-00263024-00263341 co-opreneurship for you know for decades
d3hV9j9KAyI-01110-00263342-00263813 and back I don't know 12 15 years ago we
d3hV9j9KAyI-01111-00263814-00263993 decided to create a team partnership
d3hV9j9KAyI-01112-00263994-00264245 degree program for undergrads
d3hV9j9KAyI-01113-00264246-00264521 and the worker influence on the board
d3hV9j9KAyI-01114-00264522-00264719 and the creation of that degree program
d3hV9j9KAyI-01115-00264720-00265205 was such that we decided to use sort of
d3hV9j9KAyI-01116-00265206-00265343 a radical
d3hV9j9KAyI-01117-00265344-00265649 teaching and learning model that's very
d3hV9j9KAyI-01118-00265650-00265882 sort of very dramatically experienced
d3hV9j9KAyI-01119-00265883-00266069 based learning by doing maybe even too
d3hV9j9KAyI-01120-00266070-00266195 much but in any case there's another
d3hV9j9KAyI-01121-00266196-00266482 another debate but uh as opposed to a
d3hV9j9KAyI-01122-00266483-00266663 more certainly had planned to be
d3hV9j9KAyI-01123-00266664-00266897 somewhat more participatory or somewhat
d3hV9j9KAyI-01124-00266898-00267310 more engaged but it was it was viewed it
d3hV9j9KAyI-01125-00267311-00267491 was viewed in somewhat traditional terms
d3hV9j9KAyI-01126-00267492-00267689 at first slurkers on the board said no
d3hV9j9KAyI-01127-00267690-00267856 no this is going to be serious team
d3hV9j9KAyI-01128-00267857-00268156 partnership then we have to we have to
d3hV9j9KAyI-01129-00268157-00268330 have a totally different teaching and
d3hV9j9KAyI-01130-00268331-00268660 learning approach and it's a very
d3hV9j9KAyI-01131-00268661-00268817 different teaching and learning approach
d3hV9j9KAyI-01132-00268818-00269206 15 years later
d3hV9j9KAyI-01133-00269207-00269555 interesting
d3hV9j9KAyI-01134-00269556-00269717 so I made an enormous amount of
d3hV9j9KAyI-01135-00269718-00269891 difference
d3hV9j9KAyI-01136-00269892-00270149 oh huge absolutely huge in that case
d3hV9j9KAyI-01137-00270150-00270280 yeah
d3hV9j9KAyI-01138-00270281-00270539 interesting okay thank you
d3hV9j9KAyI-01139-00270540-00270695 um Elizabeth would you like to weigh in
d3hV9j9KAyI-01140-00270696-00270910 on on this question
d3hV9j9KAyI-01141-00270911-00271156 um about structure and then what
d3hV9j9KAyI-01142-00271157-00271367 difference what difference does it does
d3hV9j9KAyI-01143-00271368-00271529 structure make
d3hV9j9KAyI-01144-00271530-00271780 or doesn't it
d3hV9j9KAyI-01145-00271781-00271967 well obviously have a union in a
d3hV9j9KAyI-01146-00271968-00272273 workplace has a huge difference
d3hV9j9KAyI-01147-00272274-00272351 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01148-00272352-00272699 most of it in my opinion is good
d3hV9j9KAyI-01149-00272700-00273137 um when before we unionized the starting
d3hV9j9KAyI-01150-00273138-00273575 wage was 50 cents above minimum wage
d3hV9j9KAyI-01151-00273576-00273815 and then not too long ago we were three
d3hV9j9KAyI-01152-00273816-00274030 dollars above minimum wage and that
d3hV9j9KAyI-01153-00274031-00274271 never ever ever ever would have happened
d3hV9j9KAyI-01154-00274272-00274649 without a union not even close now it's
d3hV9j9KAyI-01155-00274650-00274847 less than three dollars because
d3hV9j9KAyI-01156-00274848-00275099 minimum wage has gone up
d3hV9j9KAyI-01157-00275100-00275279 um and our wages have
d3hV9j9KAyI-01158-00275280-00275573 not grown at the same rate that they
d3hV9j9KAyI-01159-00275574-00275753 used to
d3hV9j9KAyI-01160-00275754-00275843 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01161-00275844-00276082 so that's just right there is a huge
d3hV9j9KAyI-01162-00276083-00276391 difference our health care
d3hV9j9KAyI-01163-00276392-00276719 the reason that the kind of spark that
d3hV9j9KAyI-01164-00276720-00276953 led to unionizing was that
d3hV9j9KAyI-01165-00276954-00277193 uh our health care was basically going
d3hV9j9KAyI-01166-00277194-00277397 to be taken away from everybody that
d3hV9j9KAyI-01167-00277398-00277619 wasn't a manager
d3hV9j9KAyI-01168-00277620-00278015 um and we still don't pay a premium for
d3hV9j9KAyI-01169-00278016-00278308 our health care 20 years later although
d3hV9j9KAyI-01170-00278309-00278513 unfortunately we had to sell ourselves
d3hV9j9KAyI-01171-00278514-00278693 out and that will be changing in the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01172-00278694-00278921 next couple years much to my great
d3hV9j9KAyI-01173-00278922-00279125 dismay
d3hV9j9KAyI-01174-00279126-00279701 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01175-00279702-00279905 you know it's an interesting question of
d3hV9j9KAyI-01176-00279906-00280169 of participation and
d3hV9j9KAyI-01177-00280170-00280415 because I'm thinking you know I I
d3hV9j9KAyI-01178-00280416-00280606 apologize I'm like eating my lunch
d3hV9j9KAyI-01179-00280607-00280756 during this and I'm rushing around and
d3hV9j9KAyI-01180-00280757-00280925 my camera's wobbling
d3hV9j9KAyI-01181-00280926-00281063 and
d3hV9j9KAyI-01182-00281064-00281260 um you know I'm doing this off the clock
d3hV9j9KAyI-01183-00281261-00281495 like I had to punch out to come do this
d3hV9j9KAyI-01184-00281496-00281719 and I had to have this big
d3hV9j9KAyI-01185-00281720-00281969 dramatic conversation with not dramatic
d3hV9j9KAyI-01186-00281970-00282184 but this big well are you representing
d3hV9j9KAyI-01187-00282185-00282395 hunger mountain and you know all this
d3hV9j9KAyI-01188-00282396-00282839 kind of stuff and so and then
d3hV9j9KAyI-01189-00282840-00283084 so it's just it's like how do we as
d3hV9j9KAyI-01190-00283085-00283343 workers get to participate when we're
d3hV9j9KAyI-01191-00283344-00283451 rushing
d3hV9j9KAyI-01192-00283452-00283715 when we're not getting compensated for
d3hV9j9KAyI-01193-00283716-00283930 our voice being
d3hV9j9KAyI-01194-00283931-00284130 part of the discussion
d3hV9j9KAyI-01195-00284131-00284441 and when in fact most people can get
d3hV9j9KAyI-01196-00284442-00284825 fired or written up for for particip you
d3hV9j9KAyI-01197-00284826-00285184 know not staying in their Lane
d3hV9j9KAyI-01198-00285185-00285275 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01199-00285276-00285425 and so
d3hV9j9KAyI-01200-00285426-00285634 and I'm so interested in what other
d3hV9j9KAyI-01201-00285635-00285821 panelists are saying and of course you
d3hV9j9KAyI-01202-00285822-00285982 know we've had many conversations at
d3hV9j9KAyI-01203-00285983-00286156 Hunger Mountain about
d3hV9j9KAyI-01204-00286157-00286463 you know how could we be a worker
d3hV9j9KAyI-01205-00286464-00286589 you know how could we be
d3hV9j9KAyI-01206-00286590-00286853 multi-stakeholder
d3hV9j9KAyI-01207-00286854-00287134 um and and I don't have the answer but
d3hV9j9KAyI-01208-00287135-00287423 but without being here we're missing out
d3hV9j9KAyI-01209-00287424-00287717 on a huge part of the conversation
d3hV9j9KAyI-01210-00287718-00287927 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01211-00287928-00288082 and
d3hV9j9KAyI-01212-00288083-00288263 I don't know that I'm directly answering
d3hV9j9KAyI-01213-00288264-00288437 the question but this is sort of what
d3hV9j9KAyI-01214-00288438-00288749 I'm thinking about and I appreciate it I
d3hV9j9KAyI-01215-00288750-00288971 appreciate being able to be here
d3hV9j9KAyI-01216-00288972-00289247 um but I'm off the clock
d3hV9j9KAyI-01217-00289248-00289445 and I'm not going to say that I'm
d3hV9j9KAyI-01218-00289446-00289667 resentful about that but it kind of
d3hV9j9KAyI-01219-00289668-00289877 stinks I'm using my valuable vacation
d3hV9j9KAyI-01220-00289878-00290206 time to be here so
d3hV9j9KAyI-01221-00290207-00290303 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01222-00290304-00290477 and I don't need to thank you for the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01223-00290478-00290615 thanks but I
d3hV9j9KAyI-01224-00290616-00290819 you know it's important to me it's
d3hV9j9KAyI-01225-00290820-00291071 important to me that workers are equally
d3hV9j9KAyI-01226-00291072-00291306 at the table with everybody else and so
d3hV9j9KAyI-01227-00291307-00291469 I'll
d3hV9j9KAyI-01228-00291470-00291658 you know
d3hV9j9KAyI-01229-00291659-00291917 I appreciate being here and I also I'm
d3hV9j9KAyI-01230-00291918-00292169 like you know how can we act where where
d3hV9j9KAyI-01231-00292170-00292403 where where's the equity where's the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01232-00292404-00292649 equality and that's a whole nother
d3hV9j9KAyI-01233-00292650-00292795 discussion
d3hV9j9KAyI-01234-00292796-00293039 thank you
d3hV9j9KAyI-01235-00293040-00293315 yeah thank you
d3hV9j9KAyI-01236-00293316-00293405 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01237-00293406-00293656 okay so the fourth and we have a ton of
d3hV9j9KAyI-01238-00293657-00293956 great questions the question answer
d3hV9j9KAyI-01239-00293957-00294113 um but we're gonna get to as many of
d3hV9j9KAyI-01240-00294114-00294275 those as we can
d3hV9j9KAyI-01241-00294276-00294430 um but the fourth question kind of has
d3hV9j9KAyI-01242-00294431-00294634 to do with this idea of ecosystems and
d3hV9j9KAyI-01243-00294635-00294887 Co-op support and
d3hV9j9KAyI-01244-00294888-00295079 um we'd like you each to address from
d3hV9j9KAyI-01245-00295080-00295373 your point of view and your experience
d3hV9j9KAyI-01246-00295374-00295547 um what how can the broader movement
d3hV9j9KAyI-01247-00295548-00295829 better support or refine or or help
d3hV9j9KAyI-01248-00295830-00296134 people have good experiences
d3hV9j9KAyI-01249-00296135-00296447 um in multi-stakeholder governance and
d3hV9j9KAyI-01250-00296448-00296632 ownership or influence so how can the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01251-00296633-00296806 rest of us what what can the ecosystem
d3hV9j9KAyI-01252-00296807-00296945 do
d3hV9j9KAyI-01253-00296946-00297041 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01254-00297042-00297227 to make it better what has what has
d3hV9j9KAyI-01255-00297228-00297401 ecosystem done that's really helped you
d3hV9j9KAyI-01256-00297402-00297545 or supported you too I guess on the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01257-00297546-00297706 positive side
d3hV9j9KAyI-01258-00297707-00297887 um so what what are your recommendations
d3hV9j9KAyI-01259-00297888-00298091 like for you know whatever those
d3hV9j9KAyI-01260-00298092-00298330 building uh Cooperative economy how can
d3hV9j9KAyI-01261-00298331-00298582 we make it make it um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01262-00298583-00298787 make the good bring the good parts of
d3hV9j9KAyI-01263-00298788-00298955 the experience to more people is I think
d3hV9j9KAyI-01264-00298956-00299147 is the bigger question
d3hV9j9KAyI-01265-00299148-00299429 um so uh Weaver Street who who have we
d3hV9j9KAyI-01266-00299430-00299867 got done this one's my turn
d3hV9j9KAyI-01267-00299868-00299963 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01268-00299964-00300203 well you know I think I think a Weaver
d3hV9j9KAyI-01269-00300204-00300479 Street one of the biggest and some of
d3hV9j9KAyI-01270-00300480-00300805 the biggest impacts we've had is just in
d3hV9j9KAyI-01271-00300806-00301193 cooperating with other co-ops and
d3hV9j9KAyI-01272-00301194-00301456 you know uh the example James used at
d3hV9j9KAyI-01273-00301457-00301684 the beginning uh with riahana is like a
d3hV9j9KAyI-01274-00301685-00301882 super cool example
d3hV9j9KAyI-01275-00301883-00302087 um you know we get a great product and
d3hV9j9KAyI-01276-00302088-00302321 then you know by costing the United
d3hV9j9KAyI-01277-00302322-00302579 States buying directly from the co-op in
d3hV9j9KAyI-01278-00302580-00302879 Argentina they get uh Capital they need
d3hV9j9KAyI-01279-00302880-00303077 to do you know to make real on the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01280-00303078-00303305 ground difference in their Community
d3hV9j9KAyI-01281-00303306-00303515 um and you know I think we all probably
d3hV9j9KAyI-01282-00303516-00303815 have examples of how that happens on us
d3hV9j9KAyI-01283-00303816-00304091 you know on a more local scale in our
d3hV9j9KAyI-01284-00304092-00304463 communities as well and um you know I
d3hV9j9KAyI-01285-00304464-00304606 think that
d3hV9j9KAyI-01286-00304607-00304756 um you know
d3hV9j9KAyI-01287-00304757-00305045 people need to see co-ops that you know
d3hV9j9KAyI-01288-00305046-00305254 so also I really appreciate what Fred
d3hV9j9KAyI-01289-00305255-00305429 said about co-ops need to be a part of
d3hV9j9KAyI-01290-00305430-00305789 the core economy and um you know I think
d3hV9j9KAyI-01291-00305790-00305939 um one thing that Weaver Street has done
d3hV9j9KAyI-01292-00305940-00306137 well over the years is we've really
d3hV9j9KAyI-01293-00306138-00306508 tried to be uh active competitor in the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01294-00306509-00306773 grocery Marketplace rather than just be
d3hV9j9KAyI-01295-00306774-00307163 you know Co-op off off to the side we
d3hV9j9KAyI-01296-00307164-00307349 try to keep prices competitive we've
d3hV9j9KAyI-01297-00307350-00307487 tried to have the products that people
d3hV9j9KAyI-01298-00307488-00307823 want but also to stay true to our values
d3hV9j9KAyI-01299-00307824-00308213 as well and um you know and I think a
d3hV9j9KAyI-01300-00308214-00308584 resource that has been helpful in that
d3hV9j9KAyI-01301-00308585-00308693 is
d3hV9j9KAyI-01302-00308694-00308993 um there's a group called co-illuminate
d3hV9j9KAyI-01303-00308994-00309334 um that is a co-op of Consultants
d3hV9j9KAyI-01304-00309335-00309484 basically
d3hV9j9KAyI-01305-00309485-00309737 um and they work with mostly grocery
d3hV9j9KAyI-01306-00309738-00310169 co-ops and um they uh
d3hV9j9KAyI-01307-00310170-00310499 they have been very helpful in
d3hV9j9KAyI-01308-00310500-00310715 when you have workers on the board who
d3hV9j9KAyI-01309-00310716-00310877 you know like we've been talking about
d3hV9j9KAyI-01310-00310878-00311051 work work eight hours a day then you got
d3hV9j9KAyI-01311-00311052-00311230 to go to a board meeting or when I
d3hV9j9KAyI-01312-00311231-00311363 started on the board I had a college
d3hV9j9KAyI-01313-00311364-00311489 degree but I didn't know anything about
d3hV9j9KAyI-01314-00311490-00311663 the grocery business you know I got into
d3hV9j9KAyI-01315-00311664-00311843 into Weaver Street because I want to
d3hV9j9KAyI-01316-00311844-00311969 debate
d3hV9j9KAyI-01317-00311970-00312191 um so that so to have this knowledge
d3hV9j9KAyI-01318-00312192-00312443 base that we can tap into and it's
d3hV9j9KAyI-01319-00312444-00312695 people who share our values and
d3hV9j9KAyI-01320-00312696-00312887 understand the project that we're trying
d3hV9j9KAyI-01321-00312888-00313025 to do
d3hV9j9KAyI-01322-00313026-00313295 um I think is invaluable and
d3hV9j9KAyI-01323-00313296-00313504 you know even the questions that have
d3hV9j9KAyI-01324-00313505-00313793 come up today like black star dealing
d3hV9j9KAyI-01325-00313794-00314045 with management changes and
d3hV9j9KAyI-01326-00314046-00314279 um you know Elizabeth and unionizing
d3hV9j9KAyI-01327-00314280-00314519 versus worker ownership and can those
d3hV9j9KAyI-01328-00314520-00314680 work together
d3hV9j9KAyI-01329-00314681-00314963 um like and you know even having this
d3hV9j9KAyI-01330-00314964-00315323 call like more more stuff um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01331-00315324-00315521 more of like a collective knowledge base
d3hV9j9KAyI-01332-00315522-00316013 uh and um needs to be created so that uh
d3hV9j9KAyI-01333-00316014-00316247 so that because so much of what co-ops
d3hV9j9KAyI-01334-00316248-00316469 do is on the ground and and just takes a
d3hV9j9KAyI-01335-00316470-00316703 lot of work and so to be able to have a
d3hV9j9KAyI-01336-00316704-00316927 resource that folks can easily tap into
d3hV9j9KAyI-01337-00316928-00317177 and share with one another uh to
d3hV9j9KAyI-01338-00317178-00317327 continue to make real differences on the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01339-00317328-00317549 ground I think is is something that is
d3hV9j9KAyI-01340-00317550-00317771 growing and and exists but I think it
d3hV9j9KAyI-01341-00317772-00318604 just needs we need more and more of it
d3hV9j9KAyI-01342-00318605-00318767 thank you
d3hV9j9KAyI-01343-00318768-00318845 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01344-00318846-00319108 so Madeline from from your experience at
d3hV9j9KAyI-01345-00319109-00319295 black store how could
d3hV9j9KAyI-01346-00319296-00319553 um I guess we could we could help the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01347-00319554-00319793 state of Texas understand how multiple
d3hV9j9KAyI-01348-00319794-00319991 people go to business would be one thing
d3hV9j9KAyI-01349-00319992-00320165 we could do to help you probably
d3hV9j9KAyI-01350-00320166-00320284 um but what other ways could the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01351-00320285-00320471 ecosystem
d3hV9j9KAyI-01352-00320472-00320639 um support or do you think the ecosystem
d3hV9j9KAyI-01353-00320640-00320891 could support uh your kind of
d3hV9j9KAyI-01354-00320892-00321137 organization
d3hV9j9KAyI-01355-00321138-00321545 um so black star is a member of the U.S
d3hV9j9KAyI-01356-00321546-00321784 Federation of worker cooperatives we are
d3hV9j9KAyI-01357-00321785-00322006 registered as a democratic workplace
d3hV9j9KAyI-01358-00322007-00322306 which is how we're able to be members
d3hV9j9KAyI-01359-00322307-00322547 um and they do a lot of really great
d3hV9j9KAyI-01360-00322548-00322823 work that I would like to see like even
d3hV9j9KAyI-01361-00322824-00323051 if we were in a democratic place or
d3hV9j9KAyI-01362-00323052-00323291 other multi-stakeholder co-ops would be
d3hV9j9KAyI-01363-00323292-00323501 able to benefit from as well
d3hV9j9KAyI-01364-00323502-00323669 um they are the reason why we are able
d3hV9j9KAyI-01365-00323670-00323879 to offer Health dental and vision
d3hV9j9KAyI-01366-00323880-00324287 coverage to all of our workers they
d3hV9j9KAyI-01367-00324288-00324491 offer a lot of really great Cooperative
d3hV9j9KAyI-01368-00324492-00324713 training like we do have such high
d3hV9j9KAyI-01369-00324714-00324832 turnover being in the restaurant
d3hV9j9KAyI-01370-00324833-00325258 industry so it's really hard to get all
d3hV9j9KAyI-01371-00325259-00325451 of our employees together and like kind
d3hV9j9KAyI-01372-00325452-00325589 of teach them like
d3hV9j9KAyI-01373-00325590-00325834 this is what a co-op is
d3hV9j9KAyI-01374-00325835-00325973 um but they offer a lot of really great
d3hV9j9KAyI-01375-00325974-00326093 training that I think is really
d3hV9j9KAyI-01376-00326094-00326429 essential to empowering our workers to
d3hV9j9KAyI-01377-00326430-00326734 make decisions for their own workplace
d3hV9j9KAyI-01378-00326735-00326795 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01379-00326796-00327041 another really great thing that they
d3hV9j9KAyI-01380-00327042-00327304 have helped us with is when we initially
d3hV9j9KAyI-01381-00327305-00327641 started back in 2006 they helped us form
d3hV9j9KAyI-01382-00327642-00327863 all of our governance
d3hV9j9KAyI-01383-00327864-00328121 um our policy register and our bylaws
d3hV9j9KAyI-01384-00328122-00328234 and they connected us with other
d3hV9j9KAyI-01385-00328235-00328469 cooperatives in the area to help us do
d3hV9j9KAyI-01386-00328470-00328829 that but they took it a step further and
d3hV9j9KAyI-01387-00328830-00328960 they
d3hV9j9KAyI-01388-00328961-00329104 um helped us create a governance
d3hV9j9KAyI-01389-00329105-00329417 calendar based off of our governance
d3hV9j9KAyI-01390-00329418-00329597 um and that has been really essential in
d3hV9j9KAyI-01391-00329598-00329854 getting our member owners involved in
d3hV9j9KAyI-01392-00329855-00330058 board readings because they know like
d3hV9j9KAyI-01393-00330059-00330329 okay today they're going to be talking
d3hV9j9KAyI-01394-00330330-00330569 about self-management and that's
d3hV9j9KAyI-01395-00330570-00330767 something that I need to be up to date
d3hV9j9KAyI-01396-00330768-00331001 on and I need to know
d3hV9j9KAyI-01397-00331002-00331210 um how self-management is going up black
d3hV9j9KAyI-01398-00331211-00331517 star so being able to have that public
d3hV9j9KAyI-01399-00331518-00331673 um so I remember owners can join the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01400-00331674-00331787 board meetings whatever we're talking
d3hV9j9KAyI-01401-00331788-00332201 about topics that they're interested in
d3hV9j9KAyI-01402-00332202-00332387 um yeah so I think that the U.S
d3hV9j9KAyI-01403-00332388-00332554 Federation of worker cooperatives has
d3hV9j9KAyI-01404-00332555-00332747 done such a great job being a resource
d3hV9j9KAyI-01405-00332748-00332987 and I would like to see something
d3hV9j9KAyI-01406-00332988-00333293 similar from Member cooperatives uh
d3hV9j9KAyI-01407-00333294-00333701 multi-stakeholder cooperatives I mean
d3hV9j9KAyI-01408-00333702-00334019 yeah that's a great idea I mean that's a
d3hV9j9KAyI-01409-00334020-00334156 good idea of what you know just just
d3hV9j9KAyI-01410-00334157-00334330 having a more detailed thing so people
d3hV9j9KAyI-01411-00334331-00334534 can just be part of this conversations
d3hV9j9KAyI-01412-00334535-00334763 that they need to be part of that's
d3hV9j9KAyI-01413-00334764-00334973 really neat okay Fred
d3hV9j9KAyI-01414-00334974-00335195 um what about well I mean you obviously
d3hV9j9KAyI-01415-00335196-00335441 have a different ecosystem where you are
d3hV9j9KAyI-01416-00335442-00335603 but what do you what are your summer
d3hV9j9KAyI-01417-00335604-00335867 thoughts about things that we could do
d3hV9j9KAyI-01418-00335868-00336125 to be more supportive of of having you
d3hV9j9KAyI-01419-00336126-00336280 know these good kinds of conversation
d3hV9j9KAyI-01420-00336281-00336479 and influence at the board and ownership
d3hV9j9KAyI-01421-00336480-00336751 level
d3hV9j9KAyI-01422-00336752-00336977 well um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01423-00336978-00337123 I was thinking about the most the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01424-00337124-00337373 multi-stakeholder co-ops here that
d3hV9j9KAyI-01425-00337374-00337529 we're one of the membership categories
d3hV9j9KAyI-01426-00337530-00337877 is co-ops
d3hV9j9KAyI-01427-00337878-00338158 more than directly ownership to
d3hV9j9KAyI-01428-00338159-00338410 ownership of governance issues I mean
d3hV9j9KAyI-01429-00338411-00338573 that's the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01430-00338574-00338795 aside from lots of worker co-ops in in
d3hV9j9KAyI-01431-00338796-00338999 the core economy
d3hV9j9KAyI-01432-00339000-00339137 they have the biggest contribution I
d3hV9j9KAyI-01433-00339138-00339347 think mother gone has made has made two
d3hV9j9KAyI-01434-00339348-00339713 uh The Cooperative movement is a really
d3hV9j9KAyI-01435-00339714-00340030 elaborate system of of multi-stakeholder
d3hV9j9KAyI-01436-00340031-00340234 co-ops where co-ops collaborate with
d3hV9j9KAyI-01437-00340235-00340384 each other
d3hV9j9KAyI-01438-00340385-00340780 and they do that uh in two ways or there
d3hV9j9KAyI-01439-00340781-00341003 are two sort of outcomes two focuses one
d3hV9j9KAyI-01440-00341004-00341080 is
d3hV9j9KAyI-01441-00341081-00341134 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01442-00341135-00341387 creating institutions in common and my
d3hV9j9KAyI-01443-00341388-00341591 ignorance of the of of the North
d3hV9j9KAyI-01444-00341592-00341821 American Co-op movement
d3hV9j9KAyI-01445-00341822-00342119 outside of this area such that there may
d3hV9j9KAyI-01446-00342120-00342413 be a lot more going on in this in this
d3hV9j9KAyI-01447-00342414-00342701 area that I'm aware of but
d3hV9j9KAyI-01448-00342702-00342808 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01449-00342809-00343013 two ways that number one does this one
d3hV9j9KAyI-01450-00343014-00343199 is creating institutions in common that
d3hV9j9KAyI-01451-00343200-00343325 people who are familiar with someone
d3hV9j9KAyI-01452-00343326-00343654 know about Finance both debt and Venture
d3hV9j9KAyI-01453-00343655-00343895 Capital all co-ops get together they
d3hV9j9KAyI-01454-00343896-00344080 make contributions they do other kinds
d3hV9j9KAyI-01455-00344081-00344230 of things
d3hV9j9KAyI-01456-00344231-00344543 um to ensure that co-ops have
d3hV9j9KAyI-01457-00344544-00344801 as much financing available as possible
d3hV9j9KAyI-01458-00344802-00345004 friendly financing financing that
d3hV9j9KAyI-01459-00345005-00345256 understands uh co-ops and their needs
d3hV9j9KAyI-01460-00345257-00345491 and all kinds of other institutions in
d3hV9j9KAyI-01461-00345492-00345715 common r d and Education and Training
d3hV9j9KAyI-01462-00345716-00346006 and health safety and well-being and
d3hV9j9KAyI-01463-00346007-00346258 others so institutions in common were
d3hV9j9KAyI-01464-00346259-00346504 where all the co-ops participate and all
d3hV9j9KAyI-01465-00346505-00346684 of the co-ops benefit
d3hV9j9KAyI-01466-00346685-00347051 but then also pursuing co-opted Co-op or
d3hV9j9KAyI-01467-00347052-00347230 promoting Co-op to co-op collaboration
d3hV9j9KAyI-01468-00347231-00347489 to look for business opportunities
d3hV9j9KAyI-01469-00347490-00347753 things that your Co-op has that mine
d3hV9j9KAyI-01470-00347754-00347908 doesn't and that mine has and yours
d3hV9j9KAyI-01471-00347909-00348191 doesn't and if two three four six co-ops
d3hV9j9KAyI-01472-00348192-00348365 get together and we
d3hV9j9KAyI-01473-00348366-00348599 force ourselves to meet
d3hV9j9KAyI-01474-00348600-00348839 once a month over
d3hV9j9KAyI-01475-00348840-00349132 well forever that we will find
d3hV9j9KAyI-01476-00349133-00349337 we will find business opportunities
d3hV9j9KAyI-01477-00349338-00349571 together because that's part of our
d3hV9j9KAyI-01478-00349572-00349763 mission we know this will happen it's
d3hV9j9KAyI-01479-00349764-00349967 hard there are Tire suppliers to put out
d3hV9j9KAyI-01480-00349968-00350077 every day
d3hV9j9KAyI-01481-00350078-00350321 there's a strategy and the operations of
d3hV9j9KAyI-01482-00350322-00350567 my own Co-op but if we force ourselves
d3hV9j9KAyI-01483-00350568-00350782 to meet with other co-ops in in similar
d3hV9j9KAyI-01484-00350783-00350939 or even very different sectors we will
d3hV9j9KAyI-01485-00350940-00351113 come up with ideas that will create new
d3hV9j9KAyI-01486-00351114-00351406 co-ops and that has definitely been the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01487-00351407-00351730 case and on their own I think that's the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01488-00351731-00351965 that's
d3hV9j9KAyI-01489-00351966-00352030 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01490-00352031-00352241 like I say it's the most outstanding
d3hV9j9KAyI-01491-00352242-00352408 characteristic of Mondragon outside of
d3hV9j9KAyI-01492-00352409-00352678 the fact of lots of work of co-ops and a
d3hV9j9KAyI-01493-00352679-00352930 multi stakeholder co-ops
d3hV9j9KAyI-01494-00352931-00353201 to clarify Fred sometimes co-ops are a
d3hV9j9KAyI-01495-00353202-00353434 member like in in yours there's students
d3hV9j9KAyI-01496-00353435-00353645 and workers and co-ops and sometimes
d3hV9j9KAyI-01497-00353646-00353897 they're a class and then sometimes the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01498-00353898-00354071 whole Co-op like all the members are
d3hV9j9KAyI-01499-00354072-00354203 co-ops that's correct I mean there's
d3hV9j9KAyI-01500-00354204-00354601 both of those
d3hV9j9KAyI-01501-00354602-00354851 institution is only owned by co-ops or
d3hV9j9KAyI-01502-00354852-00354982 there's always a worker ownership
d3hV9j9KAyI-01503-00354983-00355132 element always there's always a
d3hV9j9KAyI-01504-00355133-00355330 workaround always worker okay
d3hV9j9KAyI-01505-00355331-00355547 it's never just a bank owned by co-ops
d3hV9j9KAyI-01506-00355548-00355715 it'd be a bank owned by co-ops and
d3hV9j9KAyI-01507-00355716-00355889 people who work there and potentially
d3hV9j9KAyI-01508-00355890-00356080 right well I take it back I mean there
d3hV9j9KAyI-01509-00356081-00356369 are divisions and sectors in mandragon
d3hV9j9KAyI-01510-00356370-00356537 that are second degree co-ops multiple
d3hV9j9KAyI-01511-00356538-00356704 stakeholder co-ops well maybe they're
d3hV9j9KAyI-01512-00356705-00356843 not multi-stakeholders I'm not sure how
d3hV9j9KAyI-01513-00356844-00357071 to define it will the co-ops come
d3hV9j9KAyI-01514-00357072-00357191 together
d3hV9j9KAyI-01515-00357192-00357377 and they actually have some of the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01516-00357378-00357617 divisions have workers so they're I take
d3hV9j9KAyI-01517-00357618-00357947 it back
d3hV9j9KAyI-01518-00357948-00358121 workers always have a membership class
d3hV9j9KAyI-01519-00358122-00358499 okay yeah sometimes division sectoral
d3hV9j9KAyI-01520-00358500-00358775 co-ops are dominated by the co-ops in
d3hV9j9KAyI-01521-00358776-00358997 the division or sector and they're there
d3hV9j9KAyI-01522-00358998-00359165 to look for these kinds of opportunities
d3hV9j9KAyI-01523-00359166-00359303 together
d3hV9j9KAyI-01524-00359304-00359597 okay and when you talk about co-ops
d3hV9j9KAyI-01525-00359598-00359801 being members who's the person that sits
d3hV9j9KAyI-01526-00359802-00359939 on the board does a co-op appoint a
d3hV9j9KAyI-01527-00359940-00360113 person to represent them or does the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01528-00360114-00360467 board
d3hV9j9KAyI-01529-00360468-00360658 right so if there are five co-ops in a
d3hV9j9KAyI-01530-00360659-00360856 sector
d3hV9j9KAyI-01531-00360857-00361210 um the board of each Co-op appoints
d3hV9j9KAyI-01532-00361211-00361673 from it from inside X number of uh its
d3hV9j9KAyI-01533-00361674-00361871 members to be on the division or
d3hV9j9KAyI-01534-00361872-00362104 sectoral board okay hopefully in
d3hV9j9KAyI-01535-00362105-00362482 proportion to the co-op size
d3hV9j9KAyI-01536-00362483-00362687 interesting okay okay I just wanted to
d3hV9j9KAyI-01537-00362688-00362837 clarify that there's well you'll find
d3hV9j9KAyI-01538-00362838-00362993 this we start reading there's all these
d3hV9j9KAyI-01539-00362994-00363203 like nuances of you know does everybody
d3hV9j9KAyI-01540-00363204-00363401 choose the people in each sector or do
d3hV9j9KAyI-01541-00363402-00363593 only people in those their sector choose
d3hV9j9KAyI-01542-00363594-00363784 the their own representatives and
d3hV9j9KAyI-01543-00363785-00363917 there's there's kind of practice because
d3hV9j9KAyI-01544-00363918-00364097 there isn't a lot of there's no Over Law
d3hV9j9KAyI-01545-00364098-00364427 here except in state statutes so there's
d3hV9j9KAyI-01546-00364428-00364691 a lot of diversity in the practice
d3hV9j9KAyI-01547-00364692-00364877 um okay so Elizabeth would you like to
d3hV9j9KAyI-01548-00364878-00365153 go for this ecosystem question what do
d3hV9j9KAyI-01549-00365154-00365327 you what do you think the co-op world
d3hV9j9KAyI-01550-00365328-00365734 could do to be more supportive of
d3hV9j9KAyI-01551-00365735-00365956 um having multiple voices at a table
d3hV9j9KAyI-01552-00365957-00366269 that are important to have so this is
d3hV9j9KAyI-01553-00366270-00366563 reminding me interestingly that uh The
d3hV9j9KAyI-01554-00366564-00366754 Cooperative movement actually came out
d3hV9j9KAyI-01555-00366755-00367067 of the union movement and it was a group
d3hV9j9KAyI-01556-00367068-00367282 of unionized workers who were like wait
d3hV9j9KAyI-01557-00367283-00367375 a minute
d3hV9j9KAyI-01558-00367376-00367637 wait a minute why don't
d3hV9j9KAyI-01559-00367638-00367925 Why Don't We Own It
d3hV9j9KAyI-01560-00367926-00368201 um and and then here we are having this
d3hV9j9KAyI-01561-00368202-00368482 conversation today all these years later
d3hV9j9KAyI-01562-00368483-00368543 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01563-00368544-00368734 and I you know it's making me realize
d3hV9j9KAyI-01564-00368735-00369358 too that the the the union movement
d3hV9j9KAyI-01565-00369359-00369730 is
d3hV9j9KAyI-01566-00369731-00370132 for many of us is a path to worker
d3hV9j9KAyI-01567-00370133-00370439 ownership of our of our destiny and of
d3hV9j9KAyI-01568-00370440-00370678 of where we are
d3hV9j9KAyI-01569-00370679-00370978 um and it's a very long and slow slog of
d3hV9j9KAyI-01570-00370979-00371225 a revolution let me tell you
d3hV9j9KAyI-01571-00371226-00371363 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01572-00371364-00372058 and
d3hV9j9KAyI-01573-00372059-00372334 so I'm sorry I
d3hV9j9KAyI-01574-00372335-00372599 I just got myself a little confused
d3hV9j9KAyI-01575-00372600-00372875 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01576-00372876-00373163 could you could you repeat the question
d3hV9j9KAyI-01577-00373164-00373330 for me I'm sorry we were just thinking
d3hV9j9KAyI-01578-00373331-00373499 about what can what can the rest of the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01579-00373500-00373667 world do what can we in the co-op
d3hV9j9KAyI-01580-00373668-00373984 movement and the co-op ecosystem do to
d3hV9j9KAyI-01581-00373985-00374206 best support or refine our hands or or
d3hV9j9KAyI-01582-00374207-00374465 you know support a good practice in this
d3hV9j9KAyI-01583-00374466-00374549 area
d3hV9j9KAyI-01584-00374550-00374873 yeah I think yeah I think that you know
d3hV9j9KAyI-01585-00374874-00375137 as I said earlier you know a free speech
d3hV9j9KAyI-01586-00375138-00375347 Clause where people can actually speak
d3hV9j9KAyI-01587-00375348-00375491 up
d3hV9j9KAyI-01588-00375492-00375947 um our Free Speech Clause directly
d3hV9j9KAyI-01589-00375948-00376013 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01590-00376014-00376277 states that we can speak up against
d3hV9j9KAyI-01591-00376278-00376451 decisions of management and the board
d3hV9j9KAyI-01592-00376452-00376721 without reprisal and
d3hV9j9KAyI-01593-00376722-00377080 almost no workers have that
d3hV9j9KAyI-01594-00377081-00377363 um and also just as far as you know
d3hV9j9KAyI-01595-00377364-00377663 workers go
d3hV9j9KAyI-01596-00377664-00377932 just the right to card check the right
d3hV9j9KAyI-01597-00377933-00378125 to sign up for the union of their choice
d3hV9j9KAyI-01598-00378126-00378382 and not have to go through the election
d3hV9j9KAyI-01599-00378383-00378719 process where which is very lengthy and
d3hV9j9KAyI-01600-00378720-00379091 drawn out and businesses including my
d3hV9j9KAyI-01601-00379092-00379582 own Co-op hire lawyers to come in and do
d3hV9j9KAyI-01602-00379583-00379775 these meetings with the workers and tell
d3hV9j9KAyI-01603-00379776-00379960 them about how bad unions are I mean
d3hV9j9KAyI-01604-00379961-00380182 it's like you know there's a lot of that
d3hV9j9KAyI-01605-00380183-00380471 stuff going on even from co-ops and
d3hV9j9KAyI-01606-00380472-00380747 people are and I'm not here to
d3hV9j9KAyI-01607-00380748-00381130 talk poo poo about my employer
d3hV9j9KAyI-01608-00381131-00381413 but the the national president of my
d3hV9j9KAyI-01609-00381414-00381695 union said wow you know it surprises me
d3hV9j9KAyI-01610-00381696-00381869 that the management you know when we're
d3hV9j9KAyI-01611-00381870-00382271 in negotiations is just as awful as as
d3hV9j9KAyI-01612-00382272-00382427 when we sit down with General Electric
d3hV9j9KAyI-01613-00382428-00382708 and they're you know 17 lawyers on the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01614-00382709-00383147 during negotiations so I think there's a
d3hV9j9KAyI-01615-00383148-00383482 an interest in keeping the co-op open
d3hV9j9KAyI-01616-00383483-00384221 and and a financial viable organization
d3hV9j9KAyI-01617-00384222-00384563 and the workers that you know profit is
d3hV9j9KAyI-01618-00384564-00384928 theft so The Profit coming that's made
d3hV9j9KAyI-01619-00384929-00385258 off of the backs of our labor
d3hV9j9KAyI-01620-00385259-00385427 we don't have a voice in what happens
d3hV9j9KAyI-01621-00385428-00385595 with that
d3hV9j9KAyI-01622-00385596-00385858 and so how is it a co-op
d3hV9j9KAyI-01623-00385859-00386087 I guess or what is really a co-op
d3hV9j9KAyI-01624-00386088-00386345 actually is is the question that I'll
d3hV9j9KAyI-01625-00386346-00386782 end with thank you
d3hV9j9KAyI-01626-00386783-00387017 provocative so I have been looking at
d3hV9j9KAyI-01627-00387018-00387215 some of the questions I'm sure you have
d3hV9j9KAyI-01628-00387216-00387478 um Ochoa and George too
d3hV9j9KAyI-01629-00387479-00387628 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01630-00387629-00387845 so there are a couple
d3hV9j9KAyI-01631-00387846-00387923 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01632-00387924-00388115 I'm going to ask a couple of those and
d3hV9j9KAyI-01633-00388116-00388313 then turn see what uh what you guys also
d3hV9j9KAyI-01634-00388314-00388480 have been looking at in the chat but
d3hV9j9KAyI-01635-00388481-00388613 that's a good actually this this
d3hV9j9KAyI-01636-00388614-00388775 patronage question is a good question
d3hV9j9KAyI-01637-00388776-00388991 and there are similar there are some not
d3hV9j9KAyI-01638-00388992-00389158 identical but align questions about
d3hV9j9KAyI-01639-00389159-00389417 compensation so maybe
d3hV9j9KAyI-01640-00389418-00389591 um you could talk about for those of you
d3hV9j9KAyI-01641-00389592-00389765 for when workers are on the board I mean
d3hV9j9KAyI-01642-00389766-00389945 are they are they compensated for their
d3hV9j9KAyI-01643-00389946-00390125 time for their board time
d3hV9j9KAyI-01644-00390126-00390280 um as workers or are they not
d3hV9j9KAyI-01645-00390281-00390430 compensated because other people aren't
d3hV9j9KAyI-01646-00390431-00390730 so so how does that work and then in a
d3hV9j9KAyI-01647-00390731-00390923 related question how does patronage work
d3hV9j9KAyI-01648-00390924-00391163 if you had different
d3hV9j9KAyI-01649-00391164-00391427 um classes of owners in your Co-op like
d3hV9j9KAyI-01650-00391428-00391625 is you know does everybody get the same
d3hV9j9KAyI-01651-00391626-00391925 or do workers get more patronage because
d3hV9j9KAyI-01652-00391926-00392069 they have more skin in the game and they
d3hV9j9KAyI-01653-00392070-00392219 have more to contribute or like how does
d3hV9j9KAyI-01654-00392220-00392308 it work
d3hV9j9KAyI-01655-00392309-00392554 so um so maybe we were still again you
d3hV9j9KAyI-01656-00392555-00392849 could just start
d3hV9j9KAyI-01657-00392850-00393137 on that question of um are workers paid
d3hV9j9KAyI-01658-00393138-00393287 for their board time and then also how
d3hV9j9KAyI-01659-00393288-00393437 does patronage work at your Co-op
d3hV9j9KAyI-01660-00393438-00393845 between the different classes of members
d3hV9j9KAyI-01661-00393846-00394091 I'll start and then I'll pass the second
d3hV9j9KAyI-01662-00394092-00394403 half off too one of my other teammates
d3hV9j9KAyI-01663-00394404-00394667 um yes so the entire board is
d3hV9j9KAyI-01664-00394668-00394865 compensated so workers are compensated
d3hV9j9KAyI-01665-00394866-00395075 the consumer owners are compensated the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01666-00395076-00395260 appointed members are compensated for
d3hV9j9KAyI-01667-00395261-00395495 their time and Leadership because it is
d3hV9j9KAyI-01668-00395496-00395651 recognized that we're doing a lot of
d3hV9j9KAyI-01669-00395652-00395789 work
d3hV9j9KAyI-01670-00395790-00395963 um so yeah that is that's worked into
d3hV9j9KAyI-01671-00395964-00396178 essentially the board budget and I'll
d3hV9j9KAyI-01672-00396179-00396425 let John or James talk about how the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01673-00396426-00396839 Dividends are disbursed
d3hV9j9KAyI-01674-00396840-00397097 the the dividend process is interesting
d3hV9j9KAyI-01675-00397098-00397397 because it's one of the few things that
d3hV9j9KAyI-01676-00397398-00397834 the board uh like directly owns like in
d3hV9j9KAyI-01677-00397835-00398015 this in a sense that's not delegated to
d3hV9j9KAyI-01678-00398016-00398206 the general manager
d3hV9j9KAyI-01679-00398207-00398291 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01680-00398292-00398471 but that's kind of where it begins and
d3hV9j9KAyI-01681-00398472-00398675 ends basically like every year the board
d3hV9j9KAyI-01682-00398676-00398873 has to make a decision about how they
d3hV9j9KAyI-01683-00398874-00399269 divide it up and we've landed on a
d3hV9j9KAyI-01684-00399270-00399539 process that we've done for
d3hV9j9KAyI-01685-00399540-00399754 the last decade that's worked really
d3hV9j9KAyI-01686-00399755-00399947 where well where the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01687-00399948-00400127 you know the equity is split down the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01688-00400128-00400319 middle and so the profit is split down
d3hV9j9KAyI-01689-00400320-00400630 the middle when there is one and then
d3hV9j9KAyI-01690-00400631-00400943 distributed based on dollar shop if
d3hV9j9KAyI-01691-00400944-00401206 you're a consumer or hours worked if
d3hV9j9KAyI-01692-00401207-00401560 you're an or if you're a worker and um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01693-00401561-00401878 there's fewer workers so foreign per
d3hV9j9KAyI-01694-00401879-00402101 individual workers to end up getting
d3hV9j9KAyI-01695-00402102-00402430 more of a payout and since there's so
d3hV9j9KAyI-01696-00402431-00402749 many consumers and then usually
d3hV9j9KAyI-01697-00402750-00402880 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01698-00402881-00402989 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01699-00402990-00403313 it's we turn we take that we uh we have
d3hV9j9KAyI-01700-00403314-00403606 the leeway to turn that into like um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01701-00403607-00403834 something that they can get at the cash
d3hV9j9KAyI-01702-00403835-00404099 register and put towards theirs their uh
d3hV9j9KAyI-01703-00404100-00404302 purchased or whatever instead of mailing
d3hV9j9KAyI-01704-00404303-00404458 out a check for two dollars or whatever
d3hV9j9KAyI-01705-00404459-00404621 like that
d3hV9j9KAyI-01706-00404622-00404806 um so it it's a pretty good process
d3hV9j9KAyI-01707-00404807-00404963 because it ends up being meaningful for
d3hV9j9KAyI-01708-00404964-00405232 workers in a in a financial way when
d3hV9j9KAyI-01709-00405233-00405389 you're you know our wages are good but
d3hV9j9KAyI-01710-00405390-00405628 there's still service industry wages
d3hV9j9KAyI-01711-00405629-00405887 um and and uh and then the board can
d3hV9j9KAyI-01712-00405888-00406247 decide on paying interest on um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01713-00406248-00406480 well yeah I don't know how end of the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01714-00406481-00406625 weeks we need to get but basically like
d3hV9j9KAyI-01715-00406626-00406949 it's uh for the workers uh portion of
d3hV9j9KAyI-01716-00406950-00407147 that is or for both classes a portion of
d3hV9j9KAyI-01717-00407148-00407477 the payout is kept kept in the co-op
d3hV9j9KAyI-01718-00407478-00407819 um until you leave and so the co-op is
d3hV9j9KAyI-01719-00407820-00407963 essentially borrowing from the workers
d3hV9j9KAyI-01720-00407964-00408317 and um so the board will pay interest on
d3hV9j9KAyI-01721-00408318-00408437 that
d3hV9j9KAyI-01722-00408438-00408647 um as well if they if the board decides
d3hV9j9KAyI-01723-00408648-00408899 that there's money to do that
d3hV9j9KAyI-01724-00408900-00409019 um so that's pretty neat so we have some
d3hV9j9KAyI-01725-00409020-00409210 workers with internal accounts of you
d3hV9j9KAyI-01726-00409211-00409487 know twenty thousand dollars plus
d3hV9j9KAyI-01727-00409488-00409757 um and so when they leave they get a
d3hV9j9KAyI-01728-00409758-00409955 little payout and so you know in an
d3hV9j9KAyI-01729-00409956-00410110 Ideal World we could basically like
d3hV9j9KAyI-01730-00410112-00410357 self-fund workers retirement
d3hV9j9KAyI-01731-00410358-00410495 um you know obviously we're not there
d3hV9j9KAyI-01732-00410496-00410716 yet but uh you know it's better than
d3hV9j9KAyI-01733-00410717-00411037 most places
d3hV9j9KAyI-01734-00411038-00411268 interesting I'm finding that my
d3hV9j9KAyI-01735-00411269-00411401 underground you don't do you know do
d3hV9j9KAyI-01736-00411402-00411551 Patrick you know do profit sharing or
d3hV9j9KAyI-01737-00411552-00411724 patronage do you do anything like that
d3hV9j9KAyI-01738-00411725-00411934 or what happens to the business profits
d3hV9j9KAyI-01739-00411935-00412324 and a worker consumer Co-op
d3hV9j9KAyI-01740-00412325-00412547 well and and the big worker consumer
d3hV9j9KAyI-01741-00412547-00412739 supermarket chain
d3hV9j9KAyI-01742-00412739-00412949 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01743-00412950-00413230 dividends only go to worker members
d3hV9j9KAyI-01744-00413231-00413495 our consumer members
d3hV9j9KAyI-01745-00413496-00413759 um I mean the change claim is that
d3hV9j9KAyI-01746-00413760-00413999 consumer members benefit by our lower
d3hV9j9KAyI-01747-00414000-00414220 prices and other kinds of Investments
d3hV9j9KAyI-01748-00414221-00414370 that the co-op makes in consumer
d3hV9j9KAyI-01749-00414371-00414707 education and uh health and safety
d3hV9j9KAyI-01750-00414708-00415018 Consumer or food and product health and
d3hV9j9KAyI-01751-00415019-00415218 safety and that kind of thing
d3hV9j9KAyI-01752-00415219-00415510 in other co-ops where there are workers
d3hV9j9KAyI-01753-00415512-00415834 and different kinds of user members
d3hV9j9KAyI-01754-00415835-00416070 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01755-00416071-00416434 generally mostly workers but profit but
d3hV9j9KAyI-01756-00416435-00416663 but Surplus distribution is pretty
d3hV9j9KAyI-01757-00416664-00416963 limited most of surplus is reinvested
d3hV9j9KAyI-01758-00416964-00417184 especially when the users
d3hV9j9KAyI-01759-00417185-00417514 but even workers even workers worker
d3hV9j9KAyI-01760-00417516-00417778 members tend to agree that most Surplus
d3hV9j9KAyI-01761-00417779-00418001 should be reinvested or reinvested or
d3hV9j9KAyI-01762-00418002-00418218 put into Collective Reserves
d3hV9j9KAyI-01763-00418219-00418457 there's a lot of a lot of them so it
d3hV9j9KAyI-01764-00418458-00418655 depends depends some real which one
d3hV9j9KAyI-01765-00418656-00418907 we're talking about but in most of them
d3hV9j9KAyI-01766-00418908-00419128 workers get the Lion's Share of what
d3hV9j9KAyI-01767-00419129-00419363 Surplus what patrons Dividends are paid
d3hV9j9KAyI-01768-00419364-00419675 but not but patron of dividends are not
d3hV9j9KAyI-01769-00419676-00419963 that big in multi-stakeholder co-ops
d3hV9j9KAyI-01770-00419964-00420227 from other on
d3hV9j9KAyI-01771-00420228-00420485 okay interesting uh Madeline at
d3hV9j9KAyI-01772-00420485-00420707 Blackstar how do you how do you if you
d3hV9j9KAyI-01773-00420708-00421025 have a profitable year how do you um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01774-00421026-00421264 I mean do consumer members get a get a
d3hV9j9KAyI-01775-00421266-00421445 do they get the patronage or do you just
d3hV9j9KAyI-01776-00421446-00421595 make an allocation and bonuses to the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01777-00421596-00421805 workers or what what do you do and also
d3hV9j9KAyI-01778-00421806-00421955 are you pay like if people if workers
d3hV9j9KAyI-01779-00421956-00422063 were on the board would they get paid
d3hV9j9KAyI-01780-00422064-00422399 their worker wage for that or not
d3hV9j9KAyI-01781-00422400-00422491 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01782-00422492-00422825 so first starting with the patronage
d3hV9j9KAyI-01783-00422826-00423064 I have not been a black star when we've
d3hV9j9KAyI-01784-00423065-00423395 had a profitable year so as far as I am
d3hV9j9KAyI-01785-00423396-00423707 aware I believe it's equal
d3hV9j9KAyI-01786-00423708-00424001 um everyone who is a member owner gets
d3hV9j9KAyI-01787-00424002-00424210 an equal patronage irregardless if you
d3hV9j9KAyI-01788-00424212-00424325 work there or not
d3hV9j9KAyI-01789-00424326-00424555 um I could be wrong
d3hV9j9KAyI-01790-00424556-00424864 uh as for workers getting paid our
d3hV9j9KAyI-01791-00424865-00425087 workers get paid if they attend board
d3hV9j9KAyI-01792-00425088-00425249 meetings
d3hV9j9KAyI-01793-00425250-00425483 um and myself I go to every single board
d3hV9j9KAyI-01794-00425484-00425716 meeting to present to the board but if
d3hV9j9KAyI-01795-00425717-00425903 you are actually sitting on the board
d3hV9j9KAyI-01796-00425904-00426305 you do not get paid
d3hV9j9KAyI-01797-00426306-00426605 okay so for attending they do
d3hV9j9KAyI-01798-00426606-00426809 and for being a board member they don't
d3hV9j9KAyI-01799-00426810-00427079 then yes yeah okay
d3hV9j9KAyI-01800-00427080-00427414 interesting okay
d3hV9j9KAyI-01801-00427415-00427589 um Elizabeth do you have any
d3hV9j9KAyI-01802-00427589-00427793 thing to say in that question oh just
d3hV9j9KAyI-01803-00427793-00428099 that at the co-op where I work the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01804-00428100-00428255 prophets
d3hV9j9KAyI-01805-00428256-00428459 you know go out and patronage refund but
d3hV9j9KAyI-01806-00428460-00428668 we've also negotiated
d3hV9j9KAyI-01807-00428669-00429101 for a percentage of sales
d3hV9j9KAyI-01808-00429102-00429479 provided that there's a margin above
d3hV9j9KAyI-01809-00429480-00429760 a profit margin above I think it's one
d3hV9j9KAyI-01810-00429762-00429863 point
d3hV9j9KAyI-01811-00429864-00430072 two five percent
d3hV9j9KAyI-01812-00430073-00430313 we get a percentage of what's over that
d3hV9j9KAyI-01813-00430314-00430777 as a profit sharing however
d3hV9j9KAyI-01814-00430778-00431063 this is something that you know this is
d3hV9j9KAyI-01815-00431064-00431291 and this is what happens to workers um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01816-00431292-00431477 we negotiated for that it used to be the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01817-00431478-00431633 equivalent of about a dollar an hour
d3hV9j9KAyI-01818-00431634-00431951 worked per year you know so about 280
d3hV9j9KAyI-01819-00431952-00432227 dollars for a full-time employee two
d3hV9j9KAyI-01820-00432228-00432395 thousand sorry two thousand and eighty
d3hV9j9KAyI-01821-00432396-00432622 dollars for a full-time employee
d3hV9j9KAyI-01822-00432623-00432953 but now management has taken that and uh
d3hV9j9KAyI-01823-00432954-00433229 very carefully crafted a program of
d3hV9j9KAyI-01824-00433230-00433529 discounts for members
d3hV9j9KAyI-01825-00433530-00433775 that come off of sales not out of the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01826-00433776-00434057 discount line on the budget
d3hV9j9KAyI-01827-00434058-00434368 so now we basically don't get hardly
d3hV9j9KAyI-01828-00434369-00434603 anything in profit sharing so that's the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01829-00434604-00434807 kind of thing that happens that's really
d3hV9j9KAyI-01830-00434808-00435155 unfortunate and um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01831-00435156-00435425 it's unfortunate and it doesn't doesn't
d3hV9j9KAyI-01832-00435426-00435616 feel too great so
d3hV9j9KAyI-01833-00435617-00435731 but
d3hV9j9KAyI-01834-00435732-00435995 that's but at least we have a voice in
d3hV9j9KAyI-01835-00435996-00436199 it and trying to like okay let's come up
d3hV9j9KAyI-01836-00436200-00436379 with a new formula and you know until
d3hV9j9KAyI-01837-00436380-00436570 that runs out so
d3hV9j9KAyI-01838-00436571-00436913 on it goes
d3hV9j9KAyI-01839-00436914-00437105 okay
d3hV9j9KAyI-01840-00437106-00437207 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01841-00437208-00437435 thank you and another question that came
d3hV9j9KAyI-01842-00437435-00437609 up in the chat
d3hV9j9KAyI-01843-00437610-00437909 um which is a little wonky but I like
d3hV9j9KAyI-01844-00437910-00438203 wonky so because there actually is some
d3hV9j9KAyI-01845-00438204-00438413 confusion always about this so when when
d3hV9j9KAyI-01846-00438414-00438593 you have workers and you have consumers
d3hV9j9KAyI-01847-00438593-00438797 on the board do only workers get to vote
d3hV9j9KAyI-01848-00438797-00438989 for worker representatives or do all
d3hV9j9KAyI-01849-00438989-00439103 members
d3hV9j9KAyI-01850-00439104-00439535 get to vote for all things and some
d3hV9j9KAyI-01851-00439535-00439714 multisticular co-ops I know they even
d3hV9j9KAyI-01852-00439715-00440003 have like certain kinds of topics where
d3hV9j9KAyI-01853-00440004-00440164 you know they make it like in
d3hV9j9KAyI-01854-00440165-00440351 dissolution or something right like that
d3hV9j9KAyI-01855-00440352-00440507 has to be voted on by every single class
d3hV9j9KAyI-01856-00440508-00440699 of member before co-ops dissolved and
d3hV9j9KAyI-01857-00440700-00440909 not just a majority of all the members
d3hV9j9KAyI-01858-00440910-00441166 so um so that's a question governance so
d3hV9j9KAyI-01859-00441167-00441653 like does do do only workers get to vote
d3hV9j9KAyI-01860-00441654-00441839 um for worker members or or everybody
d3hV9j9KAyI-01861-00441839-00442055 and you know are there any other kind of
d3hV9j9KAyI-01862-00442056-00442241 things like technicalities where you
d3hV9j9KAyI-01863-00442242-00442439 make a distinction
d3hV9j9KAyI-01864-00442439-00442637 um between them
d3hV9j9KAyI-01865-00442638-00442799 so
d3hV9j9KAyI-01866-00442800-00443003 um so I guess that uh Weaver Street in
d3hV9j9KAyI-01867-00443004-00443129 modern God who actually had that
d3hV9j9KAyI-01868-00443130-00443272 structure maybe you could answer that
d3hV9j9KAyI-01869-00443273-00443849 question
d3hV9j9KAyI-01870-00443850-00444149 sure so at Weaver Street Market worker
d3hV9j9KAyI-01871-00444150-00444329 owners get to vote for the worker on our
d3hV9j9KAyI-01872-00444330-00444610 reps and the consumer owners get to vote
d3hV9j9KAyI-01873-00444612-00444935 for the consumer on our reps
d3hV9j9KAyI-01874-00444935-00445253 okay same here yeah okay
d3hV9j9KAyI-01875-00445254-00445433 interesting
d3hV9j9KAyI-01876-00445434-00445601 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01877-00445602-00445810 another question that came up is and
d3hV9j9KAyI-01878-00445812-00445955 this I think people are thinking from
d3hV9j9KAyI-01879-00445956-00446129 startup you know they're
d3hV9j9KAyI-01880-00446130-00446320 how did you guys come up with or do you
d3hV9j9KAyI-01881-00446321-00446477 remember does anybody know it's the lore
d3hV9j9KAyI-01882-00446478-00446705 how do you come up with how you divide
d3hV9j9KAyI-01883-00446706-00446975 like with two yeah you'd have up to a
d3hV9j9KAyI-01884-00446976-00447172 third but those are you know like a
d3hV9j9KAyI-01885-00447173-00447329 black star that could be up to a third
d3hV9j9KAyI-01886-00447330-00447466 workers but those would be consumer
d3hV9j9KAyI-01887-00447467-00447779 member workers or um you guys we receive
d3hV9j9KAyI-01888-00447780-00447941 your half and half so how did like how
d3hV9j9KAyI-01889-00447942-00448187 did you decide percentages or and Fred
d3hV9j9KAyI-01890-00448188-00448343 you had example your third or third or
d3hV9j9KAyI-01891-00448343-00448499 third I mean is that just trying to be
d3hV9j9KAyI-01892-00448500-00448775 equal I mean or what what was how did
d3hV9j9KAyI-01893-00448776-00448931 people come up with these percentages of
d3hV9j9KAyI-01894-00448932-00449105 things do does anyone have anything to
d3hV9j9KAyI-01895-00449106-00449435 say about this I believe that we took it
d3hV9j9KAyI-01896-00449435-00449705 from the bylaws of the local Cooperative
d3hV9j9KAyI-01897-00449706-00449945 in Austin that's older than us uh which
d3hV9j9KAyI-01898-00449946-00450233 is Wheatsville food co-op I believe that
d3hV9j9KAyI-01899-00450234-00450425 it was in their bylaws and we just kept
d3hV9j9KAyI-01900-00450426-00450672 it the same okay
d3hV9j9KAyI-01901-00450673-00450929 Co-op answer is
d3hV9j9KAyI-01902-00450930-00451420 to what another Co-op does
d3hV9j9KAyI-01903-00451421-00451613 when our case it varies a lot from from
d3hV9j9KAyI-01904-00451614-00451889 cop to co-op uh the supermarket chain
d3hV9j9KAyI-01905-00451889-00452189 was a consumer Co-op for its first
d3hV9j9KAyI-01906-00452189-00452387 couple of decades
d3hV9j9KAyI-01907-00452388-00452572 or so maybe less
d3hV9j9KAyI-01908-00452573-00452764 and so when
d3hV9j9KAyI-01909-00452765-00452975 um there was a big move to include
d3hV9j9KAyI-01910-00452976-00453203 workers as members
d3hV9j9KAyI-01911-00453204-00453275 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01912-00453276-00453607 and the general assembly eventually
d3hV9j9KAyI-01913-00453608-00453893 agreed the general assembly of all
d3hV9j9KAyI-01914-00453893-00454049 consumer members
d3hV9j9KAyI-01915-00454050-00454451 they it was a pretty Fierce debate and
d3hV9j9KAyI-01916-00454452-00454613 they ended up saying all right half and
d3hV9j9KAyI-01917-00454614-00454966 half but not uh not majority worker
d3hV9j9KAyI-01918-00454967-00455105 members
d3hV9j9KAyI-01919-00455106-00455303 and other co-opsis other multi-stable
d3hV9j9KAyI-01920-00455304-00455495 corpses it has varied a lot some of them
d3hV9j9KAyI-01921-00455496-00455705 are the staff is quite small but the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01922-00455706-00455903 number of user members who are other
d3hV9j9KAyI-01923-00455904-00456185 co-ops in the group is very big
d3hV9j9KAyI-01924-00456185-00456443 so workers get a disproportionately
d3hV9j9KAyI-01925-00456443-00456563 large
d3hV9j9KAyI-01926-00456564-00457013 number of mem of of board seats but
d3hV9j9KAyI-01927-00457014-00457403 don't but don't dominate
d3hV9j9KAyI-01928-00457404-00457570 okay
d3hV9j9KAyI-01929-00457571-00457733 and we receive your half and half is
d3hV9j9KAyI-01930-00457734-00457991 that right and the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01931-00457992-00458285 okay
d3hV9j9KAyI-01932-00458285-00458837 I just wanted to yeah add in our Union
d3hV9j9KAyI-01933-00458838-00459214 our national president is elected we
d3hV9j9KAyI-01934-00459215-00459377 have National Convention every other
d3hV9j9KAyI-01935-00459378-00459689 year and all the officers National
d3hV9j9KAyI-01936-00459689-00459995 officers of our Union are elected
d3hV9j9KAyI-01937-00459996-00460247 at that meeting so generally people
d3hV9j9KAyI-01938-00460247-00460487 don't run against an incumbent unless
d3hV9j9KAyI-01939-00460488-00460631 they're doing
d3hV9j9KAyI-01940-00460632-00460966 something wrong but there's no contract
d3hV9j9KAyI-01941-00460967-00461129 like there is with a with a general
d3hV9j9KAyI-01942-00461130-00461422 manager of a co-op in addition to that
d3hV9j9KAyI-01943-00461423-00461735 it's in our our founding
d3hV9j9KAyI-01944-00461735-00461968 um words of our constitution
d3hV9j9KAyI-01945-00461969-00462179 that the national president doesn't make
d3hV9j9KAyI-01946-00462180-00462437 more than the highest paid worker
d3hV9j9KAyI-01947-00462438-00462689 and I can tell you that our food co-op
d3hV9j9KAyI-01948-00462689-00463007 that is not the case in any kind of way
d3hV9j9KAyI-01949-00463008-00463481 and not only that but the the members
d3hV9j9KAyI-01950-00463482-00463816 the unions at the local level at each
d3hV9j9KAyI-01951-00463817-00464003 individual shop
d3hV9j9KAyI-01952-00464004-00464387 vote on the wages of the staff and the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01953-00464388-00464699 national president and the all the all
d3hV9j9KAyI-01954-00464700-00465095 the offices so the vote it's very bottom
d3hV9j9KAyI-01955-00465096-00465305 up oriented
d3hV9j9KAyI-01956-00465306-00465587 uh structure and it's transparent I know
d3hV9j9KAyI-01957-00465588-00465755 what they all make
d3hV9j9KAyI-01958-00465756-00465947 um and I don't know what the general
d3hV9j9KAyI-01959-00465947-00466175 manager where I work makes I mean I can
d3hV9j9KAyI-01960-00466176-00466649 guess but I I don't know
d3hV9j9KAyI-01961-00466650-00466960 interesting I'm Jordan do you have other
d3hV9j9KAyI-01962-00466962-00467099 questions you've been looking at the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01963-00467100-00467879 chat you want to bring up
d3hV9j9KAyI-01964-00467880-00468155 yes I have one um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01965-00468156-00468514 the question is uh besides Weaver Street
d3hV9j9KAyI-01966-00468515-00468772 and what ways have you all intentionally
d3hV9j9KAyI-01967-00468773-00469157 included the voices of minoritized
d3hV9j9KAyI-01968-00469158-00469493 communities in Co-op conversations and
d3hV9j9KAyI-01969-00469493-00469816 changes involving the co-op members
d3hV9j9KAyI-01970-00469817-00470189 workers and Shoppers this includes but
d3hV9j9KAyI-01971-00470189-00470429 is not limited to people from the global
d3hV9j9KAyI-01972-00470430-00470610 majority
d3hV9j9KAyI-01973-00470612-00471118 lgbtqia plus disabled seniors veterans
d3hV9j9KAyI-01974-00471119-00472157 Etc
d3hV9j9KAyI-01975-00472158-00472397 um I can take on that question
d3hV9j9KAyI-01976-00472397-00472864 um BlackStar is a predominantly uh white
d3hV9j9KAyI-01977-00472865-00473093 male Cooperative both in terms of
d3hV9j9KAyI-01978-00473093-00473483 workers as well as member owners
d3hV9j9KAyI-01979-00473484-00473549 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-01980-00473550-00473843 but we really do take our concern for
d3hV9j9KAyI-01981-00473843-00473941 Community
d3hV9j9KAyI-01982-00473942-00474263 principle very seriously at blockstar
d3hV9j9KAyI-01983-00474264-00474743 and so we often about once a month do a
d3hV9j9KAyI-01984-00474743-00474947 collaboration beer with different
d3hV9j9KAyI-01985-00474947-00475210 Community organizations uh local to
d3hV9j9KAyI-01986-00475212-00475320 Austin
d3hV9j9KAyI-01987-00475321-00475618 and proceeds from that beer go to that
d3hV9j9KAyI-01988-00475619-00475810 organization
d3hV9j9KAyI-01989-00475812-00476003 um organization I think it's our most
d3hV9j9KAyI-01990-00476004-00476147 popular one that we do every year for
d3hV9j9KAyI-01991-00476147-00476483 pride month is out youth being from
d3hV9j9KAyI-01992-00476484-00476677 Texas the
d3hV9j9KAyI-01993-00476678-00477083 lgbtqia plus Community is very much
d3hV9j9KAyI-01994-00477084-00477460 ostracized in large parts of Texas so we
d3hV9j9KAyI-01995-00477462-00477737 do a lot of work without Youth and we do
d3hV9j9KAyI-01996-00477738-00477941 a collaboration beer it's called wish
d3hV9j9KAyI-01997-00477942-00478157 you were queer it's absolutely delicious
d3hV9j9KAyI-01998-00478158-00478409 it's a peach beer and proceeds from that
d3hV9j9KAyI-01999-00478410-00478697 beer benefit that organization
d3hV9j9KAyI-02000-00478697-00479153 um and we also work with um boxer is
d3hV9j9KAyI-02001-00479154-00479422 actually very strange not strange
d3hV9j9KAyI-02002-00479423-00479729 um I I love that it's like the us where
d3hV9j9KAyI-02003-00479730-00479933 our management is actually mostly people
d3hV9j9KAyI-02004-00479934-00480347 of color while our workers are not so we
d3hV9j9KAyI-02005-00480347-00480568 have this really weird
d3hV9j9KAyI-02006-00480569-00480641 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-02007-00480642-00480827 Dynamic
d3hV9j9KAyI-02008-00480828-00480995 um of
d3hV9j9KAyI-02009-00480996-00481199 whenever we're asked this question we're
d3hV9j9KAyI-02010-00481200-00481439 like well the representatives of black
d3hV9j9KAyI-02011-00481439-00481781 star are but we don't like you know our
d3hV9j9KAyI-02012-00481782-00481918 workers aren't and our member owners
d3hV9j9KAyI-02013-00481919-00482105 mostly aren't most of our board members
d3hV9j9KAyI-02014-00482106-00482231 aren't
d3hV9j9KAyI-02015-00482232-00482399 um so we are trying to bridge that Gap
d3hV9j9KAyI-02016-00482400-00482813 we are trying to uh go essentially in
d3hV9j9KAyI-02017-00482814-00483064 Austin which is a largely gentrified
d3hV9j9KAyI-02018-00483065-00483443 town at this point we are stationed at I
d3hV9j9KAyI-02019-00483443-00483563 don't know if you guys have ever been to
d3hV9j9KAyI-02020-00483564-00483863 Austin uh St Johnson airport which used
d3hV9j9KAyI-02021-00483864-00484043 to be a very low income neighborhood
d3hV9j9KAyI-02022-00484043-00484277 which is now being gentrified
d3hV9j9KAyI-02023-00484278-00484547 um pretty rapidly so we try really hard
d3hV9j9KAyI-02024-00484547-00484751 to continue to connect with the original
d3hV9j9KAyI-02025-00484752-00485009 people from that area and making sure
d3hV9j9KAyI-02026-00485010-00485213 that our beer and food prices are always
d3hV9j9KAyI-02027-00485214-00485459 accessible to them and making sure that
d3hV9j9KAyI-02028-00485460-00485668 we are a resource for the houseless
d3hV9j9KAyI-02029-00485669-00485897 population that is mostly around that
d3hV9j9KAyI-02030-00485897-00486305 area we also work with Cap Metro which
d3hV9j9KAyI-02031-00486306-00486505 is our public transportation in Austin
d3hV9j9KAyI-02032-00486506-00486793 to continue to
d3hV9j9KAyI-02033-00486793-00486983 increase the amount of public trans
d3hV9j9KAyI-02034-00486984-00487157 Transportation increase Public
d3hV9j9KAyI-02035-00487158-00487414 Transportation safety and increase the
d3hV9j9KAyI-02036-00487415-00487735 use of public transportation because
d3hV9j9KAyI-02037-00487735-00488116 right now in Texas they're trying to
d3hV9j9KAyI-02038-00488117-00488399 expand our main Highway in Austin and
d3hV9j9KAyI-02039-00488400-00488633 that would cut off a lot of housing for
d3hV9j9KAyI-02040-00488634-00489010 the UN for people low income housing so
d3hV9j9KAyI-02041-00489012-00489257 we are trying to really work with our
d3hV9j9KAyI-02042-00489258-00489401 public transportation to make sure that
d3hV9j9KAyI-02043-00489402-00489643 doesn't happen
d3hV9j9KAyI-02044-00489643-00489887 so yeah so those are just a couple of
d3hV9j9KAyI-02045-00489888-00490139 the ways that we do that
d3hV9j9KAyI-02046-00490139-00490607 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-02047-00490608-00490768 great thank you
d3hV9j9KAyI-02048-00490769-00491045 um anybody else want to talk about and
d3hV9j9KAyI-02049-00491046-00491177 I'm not I'm kind of interested too in
d3hV9j9KAyI-02050-00491178-00491297 just the question of like having a
d3hV9j9KAyI-02051-00491297-00491483 multi-stakeholder co-op does it does it
d3hV9j9KAyI-02052-00491484-00491603 do you think it makes people kind of
d3hV9j9KAyI-02053-00491604-00491813 more cognizant of just other voices like
d3hV9j9KAyI-02054-00491814-00492035 yeah let's have you know even if those
d3hV9j9KAyI-02055-00492035-00492191 other voices aren't necessarily owners
d3hV9j9KAyI-02056-00492192-00492401 or at the board you know does that make
d3hV9j9KAyI-02057-00492402-00492629 you kind of better listeners in some way
d3hV9j9KAyI-02058-00492630-00492820 I wonder if or maybe a lady could take
d3hV9j9KAyI-02059-00492821-00492905 that just because you're the board
d3hV9j9KAyI-02060-00492906-00493037 president do you feel like it makes a
d3hV9j9KAyI-02061-00493038-00493163 difference you've been on other boards
d3hV9j9KAyI-02062-00493164-00493475 do you feel like it makes a difference
d3hV9j9KAyI-02063-00493476-00493751 um I would say no not at all
d3hV9j9KAyI-02064-00493752-00493985 um and I do several other boards I'm
d3hV9j9KAyI-02065-00493985-00494183 currently on a few other boards
d3hV9j9KAyI-02066-00494184-00494357 um being on Weaver Street Market I'm one
d3hV9j9KAyI-02067-00494358-00494485 of very few
d3hV9j9KAyI-02068-00494485-00494747 non-white individuals
d3hV9j9KAyI-02069-00494747-00494914 um that has served on Weber Street in 35
d3hV9j9KAyI-02070-00494915-00495077 years and that's actually one of my
d3hV9j9KAyI-02071-00495078-00495310 purposes of being on there and being the
d3hV9j9KAyI-02072-00495312-00495431 manager of diversity equity and
d3hV9j9KAyI-02073-00495432-00495545 inclusion
d3hV9j9KAyI-02074-00495546-00495731 um what I find amongst boards in general
d3hV9j9KAyI-02075-00495732-00495959 and kind of in the co-op movement I'm
d3hV9j9KAyI-02076-00495960-00496139 not sure who would agree it's not really
d3hV9j9KAyI-02077-00496139-00496403 you know it's not to say hey let's argue
d3hV9j9KAyI-02078-00496404-00496583 about it but overall um it's a
d3hV9j9KAyI-02079-00496584-00496805 monoculture within co-ops and that also
d3hV9j9KAyI-02080-00496806-00496997 that spreads to the board as well so
d3hV9j9KAyI-02081-00496997-00497141 there's a recognition that you have
d3hV9j9KAyI-02082-00497142-00497327 workers and there's a recognition that
d3hV9j9KAyI-02083-00497328-00497549 operations exist but just because you
d3hV9j9KAyI-02084-00497550-00497710 have that class of people doesn't mean
d3hV9j9KAyI-02085-00497712-00497843 that you actually go and speak to those
d3hV9j9KAyI-02086-00497843-00498053 people or feel that those people have
d3hV9j9KAyI-02087-00498054-00498245 the room or the space or that you allow
d3hV9j9KAyI-02088-00498246-00498587 the room for those people to also speak
d3hV9j9KAyI-02089-00498588-00498743 um and for their voices to be heard and
d3hV9j9KAyI-02090-00498743-00499049 to be heard in an equitable a manner so
d3hV9j9KAyI-02091-00499050-00499151 for me
d3hV9j9KAyI-02092-00499152-00499313 um it's very important it's you know
d3hV9j9KAyI-02093-00499314-00499522 it's my job but it's also my life and
d3hV9j9KAyI-02094-00499523-00499745 it's it's a it's something that I was
d3hV9j9KAyI-02095-00499746-00499877 passionate about I know John and I
d3hV9j9KAyI-02096-00499878-00499997 worked together especially as he was
d3hV9j9KAyI-02097-00499997-00500195 rolling off and I was rolling one to
d3hV9j9KAyI-02098-00500196-00500375 really not just say that diversity
d3hV9j9KAyI-02099-00500376-00500507 equity and inclusion is a part of
d3hV9j9KAyI-02100-00500508-00500663 operations but now it's a part of the
d3hV9j9KAyI-02101-00500664-00500855 board because as our health is two
d3hV9j9KAyI-02102-00500856-00501041 separate entities so that you know when
d3hV9j9KAyI-02103-00501042-00501227 you are reviewing policy you're actually
d3hV9j9KAyI-02104-00501228-00501377 looking at it through an equitable lens
d3hV9j9KAyI-02105-00501378-00501520 you're looking at you know you're
d3hV9j9KAyI-02106-00501521-00501725 defining what diversity means on a board
d3hV9j9KAyI-02107-00501726-00501977 it's not just having different colors of
d3hV9j9KAyI-02108-00501978-00502097 skin on the board but it's actually
d3hV9j9KAyI-02109-00502097-00502325 having the diverse experience and for
d3hV9j9KAyI-02110-00502326-00502457 all of those people to be counted
d3hV9j9KAyI-02111-00502458-00502751 equally as it is stated in the bylaws so
d3hV9j9KAyI-02112-00502752-00502966 across boards in general no I don't
d3hV9j9KAyI-02113-00502967-00503110 think that you know having different
d3hV9j9KAyI-02114-00503112-00503416 classes and different statements of who
d3hV9j9KAyI-02115-00503417-00503620 these people are really means that they
d3hV9j9KAyI-02116-00503621-00503801 are being included I think that it's
d3hV9j9KAyI-02117-00503802-00503999 rewriting the policy the underlying
d3hV9j9KAyI-02118-00504000-00504209 Foundation the culture of not just your
d3hV9j9KAyI-02119-00504210-00504383 board but also the culture of your
d3hV9j9KAyI-02120-00504384-00504605 operations so that when operations does
d3hV9j9KAyI-02121-00504606-00504755 report to the board when they do attend
d3hV9j9KAyI-02122-00504756-00504893 meetings that they're not overlooked
d3hV9j9KAyI-02123-00504893-00505060 they're not restricted in their time or
d3hV9j9KAyI-02124-00505062-00505205 in their voice so I think that it's more
d3hV9j9KAyI-02125-00505206-00505372 than just the statement of it but I
d3hV9j9KAyI-02126-00505373-00505589 think that it is it's the operational
d3hV9j9KAyI-02127-00505589-00505799 function of the board outside of the
d3hV9j9KAyI-02128-00505800-00506081 day-to-day mechanics of the company to
d3hV9j9KAyI-02129-00506082-00506285 also say diversity equity and inclusion
d3hV9j9KAyI-02130-00506285-00506518 is what we do and if you are not abiding
d3hV9j9KAyI-02131-00506519-00506716 by that then maybe you don't belong on
d3hV9j9KAyI-02132-00506717-00507160 this board very interesting
d3hV9j9KAyI-02133-00507162-00507455 thank you yeah God please yeah just to
d3hV9j9KAyI-02134-00507456-00507725 piggyback on on that like
d3hV9j9KAyI-02135-00507726-00508060 um the uh the the one thing that does
d3hV9j9KAyI-02136-00508062-00508301 work on our board is that we do have
d3hV9j9KAyI-02137-00508302-00508583 this framework of like Alana was talking
d3hV9j9KAyI-02138-00508584-00508757 about the policies and stuff but we we
d3hV9j9KAyI-02139-00508758-00509039 we have workers on that board who are
d3hV9j9KAyI-02140-00509039-00509351 holding who are setting that policy and
d3hV9j9KAyI-02141-00509352-00509651 you know who can can create the
d3hV9j9KAyI-02142-00509652-00509837 framework to hold the co-op accountable
d3hV9j9KAyI-02143-00509838-00510149 in very real ways about how we measure
d3hV9j9KAyI-02144-00510150-00510377 you know goals related to diversity
d3hV9j9KAyI-02145-00510378-00510659 equity and inclusion and I think you
d3hV9j9KAyI-02146-00510660-00510725 know
d3hV9j9KAyI-02147-00510726-00510929 you know like an art Co-op that
d3hV9j9KAyI-02148-00510930-00511141 conversation was led by black workers
d3hV9j9KAyI-02149-00511142-00511457 and if we didn't have that
d3hV9j9KAyI-02150-00511458-00511666 representation on the board I think a
d3hV9j9KAyI-02151-00511667-00511775 lot of those black workers would have
d3hV9j9KAyI-02152-00511776-00512177 left and not had a fruitful
d3hV9j9KAyI-02153-00512178-00512501 experience and but now like
d3hV9j9KAyI-02154-00512502-00512735 um it's just really changed the whole
d3hV9j9KAyI-02155-00512735-00512963 conversation within the co-op
d3hV9j9KAyI-02156-00512964-00513089 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-02157-00513089-00513457 do you think that's true
d3hV9j9KAyI-02158-00513458-00513785 yes I do think I think that it is one of
d3hV9j9KAyI-02159-00513785-00514025 those things uh you know the the worker
d3hV9j9KAyI-02160-00514026-00514216 owners are voting for who they would
d3hV9j9KAyI-02161-00514217-00514397 like to see on their board so it's not
d3hV9j9KAyI-02162-00514397-00514541 just saying you know yes we want more
d3hV9j9KAyI-02163-00514542-00514709 diversity it's that person standing up
d3hV9j9KAyI-02164-00514710-00514835 and saying yes this is what I want
d3hV9j9KAyI-02165-00514835-00515014 having that conversation and then also
d3hV9j9KAyI-02166-00515015-00515225 having the support of your entire worker
d3hV9j9KAyI-02167-00515226-00515410 population and when you get there you
d3hV9j9KAyI-02168-00515412-00515566 know at the end of the day I do go back
d3hV9j9KAyI-02169-00515567-00515735 to operations so there is that
d3hV9j9KAyI-02170-00515735-00515872 conversation as a worker owner
d3hV9j9KAyI-02171-00515873-00516041 representative of how is the treatment
d3hV9j9KAyI-02172-00516042-00516220 what is actually going on on the board
d3hV9j9KAyI-02173-00516221-00516575 so it's hard to you know to not share a
d3hV9j9KAyI-02174-00516576-00516785 board packet because that's my job but
d3hV9j9KAyI-02175-00516785-00516959 then there is also there's a lot to the
d3hV9j9KAyI-02176-00516960-00517133 representation of saying wow your board
d3hV9j9KAyI-02177-00517134-00517433 chair is a black-bodied female and now
d3hV9j9KAyI-02178-00517434-00517601 she has a voice and now she is the board
d3hV9j9KAyI-02179-00517602-00517751 chair so I definitely think the
d3hV9j9KAyI-02180-00517752-00518272 representation is extremely important
d3hV9j9KAyI-02181-00518273-00518459 thank you I appreciate anybody else
d3hV9j9KAyI-02182-00518460-00518620 wanna
d3hV9j9KAyI-02183-00518621-00518866 Elizabeth yeah
d3hV9j9KAyI-02184-00518867-00519029 um I'm just gonna jump north of the
d3hV9j9KAyI-02185-00519030-00519353 border to uh Union that's up in Canada
d3hV9j9KAyI-02186-00519354-00519731 and they have a very Progressive they
d3hV9j9KAyI-02187-00519732-00519977 they're awesome but they have an
d3hV9j9KAyI-02188-00519978-00520349 umbrella group that contains
d3hV9j9KAyI-02189-00520350-00520727 um it's called Equity the equity seeking
d3hV9j9KAyI-02190-00520728-00520864 groups
d3hV9j9KAyI-02191-00520865-00521185 so it's women
d3hV9j9KAyI-02192-00521185-00521497 lgbtq a a
d3hV9j9KAyI-02193-00521497-00521831 uh people of color
d3hV9j9KAyI-02194-00521832-00522268 disabled workers and young workers
d3hV9j9KAyI-02195-00522269-00522491 who are generally not on boards in
d3hV9j9KAyI-02196-00522492-00522677 leadership and whatnot traditionally in
d3hV9j9KAyI-02197-00522678-00523060 unions and representatives of those
d3hV9j9KAyI-02198-00523062-00523205 those groups each get together
d3hV9j9KAyI-02199-00523206-00523535 individually across the whole country
d3hV9j9KAyI-02200-00523535-00523733 and all five of those groups get
d3hV9j9KAyI-02201-00523734-00524057 together as a unit
d3hV9j9KAyI-02202-00524058-00524333 and and do the work and then educational
d3hV9j9KAyI-02203-00524334-00524609 platforms come out of that to the locals
d3hV9j9KAyI-02204-00524610-00524885 and up to the leadership
d3hV9j9KAyI-02205-00524886-00525233 and they also have representatives of
d3hV9j9KAyI-02206-00525234-00525418 all those groups at their national
d3hV9j9KAyI-02207-00525419-00525575 conventions
d3hV9j9KAyI-02208-00525576-00525755 so usually the delegates that are
d3hV9j9KAyI-02209-00525756-00525941 elected are you know the president of
d3hV9j9KAyI-02210-00525942-00526175 the local I mean just a lot of white men
d3hV9j9KAyI-02211-00526176-00526433 that's just how it is
d3hV9j9KAyI-02212-00526434-00526487 um
d3hV9j9KAyI-02213-00526488-00526757 so they're actually putting folks in the
d3hV9j9KAyI-02214-00526758-00526943 place where the decisions are being made
d3hV9j9KAyI-02215-00526944-00527170 and and the education is real because
d3hV9j9KAyI-02216-00527171-00527411 they're there on the floor while the
d3hV9j9KAyI-02217-00527412-00527555 Constitution's being discussed and
d3hV9j9KAyI-02218-00527556-00527789 whatnot and just this past year they
d3hV9j9KAyI-02219-00527790-00528029 have their first woman pres National
d3hV9j9KAyI-02220-00528030-00528281 president of the whole Union
d3hV9j9KAyI-02221-00528282-00528472 um and our Union we work closely with
d3hV9j9KAyI-02222-00528473-00528605 them
d3hV9j9KAyI-02223-00528606-00528833 um and we've started doing that in our
d3hV9j9KAyI-02224-00528834-00529066 Union as well where you know if there's
d3hV9j9KAyI-02225-00529067-00529247 an organizing Blitz or there's a big
d3hV9j9KAyI-02226-00529248-00529493 contract that's coming up you know
d3hV9j9KAyI-02227-00529494-00529811 they'll send folks from that qualify for
d3hV9j9KAyI-02228-00529812-00530039 those Equity seeking groups to sit in
d3hV9j9KAyI-02229-00530040-00530291 with the staff during negotiations and
d3hV9j9KAyI-02230-00530292-00530566 learn the skills and actually workers
d3hV9j9KAyI-02231-00530567-00530795 have gotten hired by the Union as Union
d3hV9j9KAyI-02232-00530796-00531070 staff through that program so it's
d3hV9j9KAyI-02233-00531071-00531379 pretty awesome yeah thanks
d3hV9j9KAyI-02234-00531380-00531712 thank you we are so on time George and
d3hV9j9KAyI-02235-00531713-00532049 ashwa do you want to have any partying
d3hV9j9KAyI-02236-00532050-00532283 remarks I'm gonna do my like thank you
d3hV9j9KAyI-02237-00532284-00532462 guys so much I just every single one of
d3hV9j9KAyI-02238-00532463-00532601 you have contributed so much to this
d3hV9j9KAyI-02239-00532602-00532741 conversation I really appreciate
d3hV9j9KAyI-02240-00532742-00533033 everybody's time and and thoughtfulness
d3hV9j9KAyI-02241-00533034-00533203 here Georgia
d3hV9j9KAyI-02242-00533204-00533512 yes this was a fabulous conversation it
d3hV9j9KAyI-02243-00533513-00533783 went too fast uh but we want to
d3hV9j9KAyI-02244-00533784-00534022 encourage you to um fill out the
d3hV9j9KAyI-02245-00534023-00534227 feedback form so that we can get your
d3hV9j9KAyI-02246-00534228-00534491 ideas and you know as you know we'll
d3hV9j9KAyI-02247-00534492-00534743 probably have another form that you know
d3hV9j9KAyI-02248-00534744-00535009 leads off of this George
d3hV9j9KAyI-02249-00535010-00535505 yeah an incredibly Rich discussion so
d3hV9j9KAyI-02250-00535506-00535691 thank you very much and the questions
d3hV9j9KAyI-02251-00535692-00535895 are great we've tried to address as many
d3hV9j9KAyI-02252-00535896-00536189 of those as we can and we will follow up
d3hV9j9KAyI-02253-00536190-00536597 with resources and I know a lot of folks
d3hV9j9KAyI-02254-00536598-00536801 in the chat already indicated they want
d3hV9j9KAyI-02255-00536802-00536959 to continue
d3hV9j9KAyI-02256-00536960-00537316 smaller conversations and so forth so
d3hV9j9KAyI-02257-00537317-00537520 um this was exactly what we hoped for
d3hV9j9KAyI-02258-00537521-00537718 and it's great to
d3hV9j9KAyI-02259-00537719-00537953 um see that everybody's so enthusiastic
d3hV9j9KAyI-02260-00537954-00538175 about it
d3hV9j9KAyI-02261-00538176-00538385 and thank you so much to Margaret and
d3hV9j9KAyI-02262-00538386-00538649 the rest of the panel for a wonderful uh
d3hV9j9KAyI-02263-00538650-00538901 discussion and donations of time we
d3hV9j9KAyI-02264-00538902-00539303 appreciate it
d3hV9j9KAyI-02265-00539304-00539620 anyone else a quick closing
d3hV9j9KAyI-02266-00539621-00540191 comment remarks yeah that would be great
d3hV9j9KAyI-02267-00540192-00540461 thanks to everybody I've been a firm
d3hV9j9KAyI-02268-00540462-00540629 Advocate especially in my role of
d3hV9j9KAyI-02269-00540630-00540862 cooperation amongst cooperatives as it
d3hV9j9KAyI-02270-00540863-00541151 says in our principles but not as often
d3hV9j9KAyI-02271-00541152-00541283 as people actually do so thank you for
d3hV9j9KAyI-02272-00541284-00541877 pulling this group together
d3hV9j9KAyI-02273-00541878-00542068 all right well
d3hV9j9KAyI-02274-00542069-00542327 thank you Margaret thank you panelists
d3hV9j9KAyI-02275-00542328-00542620 thank you everybody who attended and
d3hV9j9KAyI-02276-00542621-00542903 let the conversations continue
d3hV9j9KAyI-02277-00542904-00543175 great thanks so much
d3hV9j9KAyI-02278-00543176-00543488 take care everyone
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d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00001-00003077-00003285 before we get into the review guys I do
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00002-00003286-00003459 want to get a huge shout out to NECA for
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00003-00003460-00003615 making this review possible thank you
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00004-00003615-00003747 guys so very much for sending this
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00005-00003747-00003915 figure our way I am in love with this
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00006-00003915-00004059 thing I cannot wait to crack him out of
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00007-00004060-00004203 his packaging if you guys would like to
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00008-00004204-00004389 pick this figure up you can't do so at
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00009-00004390-00004614 Target in-store you can pick it up on
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00010-00004615-00004860 their official eBay and Amazon pages as
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00011-00004861-00005025 well so definitely go find this thing on
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00012-00005026-00005238 eBay at Necas official store or on
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00013-00005239-00005436 Amazon or a retailer like Target and
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00014-00005437-00005618 let's go ahead and get into this review
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00015-00005619-00005786 what is good everybody welcome back to
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00016-00005787-00005985 another mine AM toys video today we have
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00017-00005986-00006279 our very first full neck up figure
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00018-00006280-00006506 review here on the channel and it is on
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00019-00006508-00006762 the brand-new NECA friday the 13th part
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00020-00006763-00007127 5 a new beginning dream sequence Jason
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00021-00007128-00007356 Voorhees figure the movie originally
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00022-00007356-00007794 released in 1985 and this movie is a bit
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00023-00007795-00007952 controversial you know it's not like any
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00024-00007953-00008163 other Friday the 13th film if anything
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00025-00008164-00008340 it's similar to the original and the
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00026-00008341-00008610 fact that Jason's really not even in the
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00027-00008611-00008813 movie he only appears a couple of times
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00028-00008814-00009041 it's like in the intro and just in a
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00029-00009042-00009228 couple flashbacks that the main
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00030-00009229-00009477 character Tommy has but besides that
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00031-00009478-00009660 he's not even the main killer and it's
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00032-00009661-00009803 not bad movie don't get me wrong it's
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00033-00009804-00010032 not a bad movie at all however I didn't
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00034-00010033-00010176 like that aspect of the movie you know
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00035-00010177-00010419 growing up and watching part 5 I did not
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00036-00010420-00010569 lob viously I wasn't there for the
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00037-00010570-00010853 original but as I grew up and I watched
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00038-00010854-00011073 the old Friday the 13th movies I was not
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00039-00011074-00011238 a fan of that aspect I didn't like that
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00040-00011239-00011489 Jason was not the main guy and you don't
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00041-00011490-00011717 even learn that so later on however the
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00042-00011718-00011849 movies not bad for what it was you know
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00043-00011850-00011985 they're trying to throw in a mystery or
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00044-00011986-00012162 whatever but here is the figure you can
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00045-00012163-00012276 see the Bucks right here we have the
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00046-00012277-00012467 original movie poster yup Jason's mask
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00047-00012468-00012612 right there are no Chevron's on the
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00048-00012613-00012785 thing you have what I guess it's
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00049-00012786-00012924 supposed to be Tommy right here holding
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00050-00012925-00013074 the machete you got some blood there you
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00051-00013075-00013197 got the name of the film front of the
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00052-00013197-00013443 13th part 5 a new beginning spinning on
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00053-00013444-00013599 the side you have a beautiful shot of
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00054-00013600-00013836 Jason I don't think that's the figure I
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00055-00013837-00013988 think that's just a render if that's the
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00056-00013990-00014144 figure then they did a good job editing
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00057-00014145-00014441 there you got another logo of the movie
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00058-00014443-00014666 name you got some action shots of the
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00059-00014668-00014906 figure some accessories really cool shot
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00060-00014907-00015108 down here and here I love that shot that
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00061-00015109-00015210 is absolutely beautiful
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00062-00015211-00015471 you got a picture of his gravestone
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00063-00015472-00015624 right here you got some lightning and
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00064-00015625-00015797 rain and Georgie right here obviously
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00065-00015798-00016041 that's not Georgie but you can that's
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00066-00016043-00016174 around here you can see this little read
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00067-00016175-00016300 up if you'd like to read that you can
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00068-00016301-00016528 pause it now and then over here we have
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00069-00016529-00016636 the same thing that's on the other side
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00070-00016637-00016894 NECA down here and that pretty much does
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00071-00016895-00017224 it for your box guys and before I crack
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00072-00017225-00017433 him open there is an open window and you
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00073-00017434-00017661 can see that is a sick AF image right
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00074-00017662-00017811 there I love this image of Jason coming
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00075-00017812-00017967 out of the grave right there
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00076-00017968-00018139 great looking back around and everything
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00077-00018140-00018258 I wonder if that's an actual background
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00078-00018259-00018502 or if it's just a picture but you do
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00079-00018503-00018642 have a picture of the figure here all of
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00080-00018643-00018828 the masks and these things that he comes
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00081-00018829-00018933 with we're gonna crack him out of this
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00082-00018934-00019131 packaging I don't really know what to do
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00083-00019132-00019249 since you know we don't have another
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00084-00019250-00019434 figure to explode him with so I guess
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00085-00019435-00019614 I'm just gonna slam this really hard and
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00086-00019615-00020227 create an explosion so here we have
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00087-00020228-00020439 Jason Voorhees out of his tomb guys
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00088-00020440-00020670 fresh out of the packaging looking very
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00089-00020671-00020872 incredible very excited for this figure
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00090-00020873-00021075 again I'm actually shocked that we got
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00091-00021076-00021205 part five I didn't expect them to
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00092-00021206-00021390 release part five just given because of
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00093-00021391-00021544 the circumstance I'm glad we got it
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00094-00021545-00021759 anyways just because you know we want
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00095-00021760-00021850 them all we want to get them all
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00096-00021851-00022117 eventually and hopefully we're gonna get
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00097-00022118-00022284 part seven soon that's the one that I'm
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00098-00022285-00022464 really really looking forward to I want
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00099-00022465-00022662 part seven more than any other figure in
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00100-00022663-00022914 this entire line so hopefully part seven
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00101-00022915-00023106 will be released in the next few years I
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00102-00023107-00023262 would love to see that but what we're
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00103-00023263-00023428 gonna do first is take a closer look at
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00104-00023429-00023622 Jason's accessories and then we're gonna
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00105-00023623-00023847 cover Jason Voorhees himself so with
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00106-00023848-00023992 this figure guys you do get quite the
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00107-00023993-00024159 amount of accessories I mean you can see
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00108-00024160-00024325 you get four interchangeable heads you
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00109-00024326-00024471 get a tombstone you get three different
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00110-00024472-00024667 weapons and an interchangeable hand
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00111-00024668-00024808 we're gonna go ahead and take a closer
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00112-00024809-00025017 look at everything up close first up
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00113-00025018-00025203 guys it does include this bloody axe and
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00114-00025204-00025378 this is from where Tommy sees him from
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00115-00025379-00025612 his window and this is a very nice piece
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00116-00025613-00025792 you can see it's got bloody ila bud all
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00117-00025793-00025950 over it and you can see sort of it makes
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00118-00025951-00026124 like a tree silhouette right there and
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00119-00026125-00026212 on the other side it's a bit
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00120-00026213-00026401 inconsistent there I like how you see
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00121-00026402-00026565 like the different layers of blood it's
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00122-00026566-00026752 like it's darker in some areas and are
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00123-00026752-00026920 lighter in some areas and darker and
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00124-00026920-00027067 others you can see the woodgrain finish
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00125-00027068-00027277 on the handle very nice axe accessory I
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00126-00027277-00027424 think that's a first time we've gotten
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00127-00027425-00027586 an axe with a Jason figure I could be
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00128-00027587-00027643 wrong about that
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00129-00027644-00027771 the second accessory that it comes with
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00130-00027772-00027976 guys is this ice pick this is from where
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00131-00027977-00028143 he kills the first gravedigger you can
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00132-00028144-00028371 see it doesn't have really any detail on
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00133-00028372-00028504 it besides on the handle there's a bit
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00134-00028505-00028723 of a brown stuff on there you got your
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00135-00028724-00028873 silver on there very nice sculpt it
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00136-00028874-00029023 actually is kind of sharp if you wanted
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00137-00029024-00029167 to kill a bug with this it would
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00138-00029168-00029364 absolutely be necessary and you could
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00139-00029365-00029412 stab them
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00140-00029413-00029583 full through so cockroaches can eat it
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00141-00029584-00029730 and of course it comes with Jason's
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00142-00029731-00029967 signature machete but for this one it
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00143-00029968-00030111 literally looks like you bought it
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00144-00030112-00030264 straight off Amazon and it came in the
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00145-00030265-00030430 mail like this look says la it has
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00146-00030431-00030621 nowhere in it at all there's no blood
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00147-00030622-00030801 there's no dirt there's no nothing it
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00148-00030802-00030970 literally looks like you bought it from
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00149-00030970-00031264 Home Depot and so there's a signature
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00150-00031264-00031432 machete that Jason always comes with
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00151-00031433-00031660 here is this interchangeable hand and
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00152-00031661-00031807 this interchangeable hand is to put on
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00153-00031808-00032001 your part for figure obviously this is
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00154-00032002-00032193 the iconic scene from when you chops
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00155-00032194-00032442 Jason's hand in part 4 so that is a
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00156-00032443-00032589 really nice accessory you can plug this
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00157-00032590-00032787 into your part 4 figure and it'll be all
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00158-00032788-00033049 good very nice details included on that
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00159-00033050-00033205 so getting into the head scopes guys the
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00160-00033206-00033330 first head sculpt that we have right
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00161-00033331-00033514 here is the part from where than that
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00162-00033515-00033733 opened the tomb you can see the worms
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00163-00033734-00033907 are sculpted in there very very nicely
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00164-00033908-00034101 as you can see with the axe chop in the
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00165-00034102-00034311 mask and everything it's very grimy and
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00166-00034312-00034432 dirty because it is raining and
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00167-00034433-00034620 everything but very nice match there
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00168-00034621-00034737 that is the first one this is the one
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00169-00034738-00034855 that it comes with in the packaging
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00170-00034856-00035017 because if you look at the packaging you
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00171-00035018-00035239 will notice that it's supposed to be his
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00172-00035240-00035476 tombstone in his grave so I guess it's
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00173-00035477-00035643 like he's coming out of the grave when
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00174-00035644-00035776 you open up the packaging very nice
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00175-00035777-00036007 touch by NECA to include that with the
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00176-00036008-00036162 figure the second head sculpt that we
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00177-00036163-00036351 have guys is just his regular one with
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00178-00036352-00036546 mud Oliver you can see it's pretty much
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00179-00036547-00036748 just like the warm one except no worms
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00180-00036749-00036927 are in there so it's basically a warm
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00181-00036928-00037167 las' head skin or mask and whatever you
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00182-00037168-00037299 want to call that very nice sculpt on
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00183-00037300-00037437 this mask I think it looks great
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00184-00037438-00037630 and not very much different than the
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00185-00037631-00037818 worms besides it doesn't have worms on
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00186-00037819-00037995 it and then of course have the one with
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00187-00037996-00038226 the blood on it and this is the closest
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00188-00038227-00038412 one to part 4 as you can see it's a bit
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00189-00038413-00038586 lighter it does have all the mud and
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00190-00038587-00038715 grime on it it does have the blood
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00191-00038716-00038935 leaking down and it does have some blood
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00192-00038936-00039162 included on the back on his face so
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00193-00039163-00039327 that's a very nice headsculpt going
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00194-00039328-00039471 right here and I believe this is
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00195-00039472-00039642 supposed to be from when he is standing
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00196-00039643-00039817 at the end of Tommy's bed so we get that
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00197-00039818-00040002 interchangeable head scan and then we
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00198-00040003-00040227 have the more controversial head skin
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00199-00040228-00040392 right here which kind of makes it just
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00200-00040393-00040671 this is just insane that they even made
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00201-00040672-00040885 this this mask he actually never wore
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00202-00040886-00041118 this is actually from the VHS cover of
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00203-00041119-00041317 the film they put this mask on there I
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00204-00041318-00041562 have no idea really why they went for a
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00205-00041563-00041773 Mad Max Christmas vacation style mask
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00206-00041774-00041929 but it's kind of cool I liked it they
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00207-00041930-00042061 included it and the red and the
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00208-00042062-00042235 background he is supposed to be the
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00209-00042236-00042373 lights that are coming through his eyes
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00210-00042374-00042540 on the VHS cover I'll pop it up on the
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00211-00042541-00042705 screen so you guys can see I got a like
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00212-00042706-00042754 the mask
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00213-00042755-00042898 you dirtied it up I don't know it may be
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00214-00042899-00043105 kind of cool it looks odd obviously but
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00215-00043106-00043222 it's it's pretty cool that nicka
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00216-00043223-00043402 included that and then of course we have
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00217-00043403-00043582 his makeshift headstone from the
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00218-00043583-00043711 beginning of the film jason voorhees
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00219-00043712-00043915 written on there and it's just a wooden
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00220-00043916-00044086 little pallet there with some dirt mound
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00221-00044087-00044272 on there very nice accessory but now
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00222-00044273-00044386 that we've covered these accessories
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00223-00044387-00044674 guys let's get into Jason himself so
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00224-00044675-00044830 getting into Jason Voorhees himself guys
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00225-00044831-00045019 you can see at the top we did I went
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00226-00045020-00045232 ahead and put the regular mask on there
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00227-00045233-00045376 just because I don't know I just like
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00228-00045377-00045535 that one the best probably I mean I love
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00229-00045536-00045658 the worm's one but he's out of the Greg
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00230-00045659-00045868 now so the worms fell out and that we
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00231-00045869-00045979 got him looking right here if you guys
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00232-00045980-00046159 notice there is a shine to the figure
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00233-00046160-00046288 and that is because it's supposed to be
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00234-00046289-00046543 him wet he's supposed to be wet from the
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00235-00046544-00046672 intro obviously you can see it's like
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00236-00046673-00046873 dark he got all this shiny going on they
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00237-00046874-00047110 sealed it and like a shiny color to give
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00238-00047111-00047344 it that rainy feel like he's wet so that
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00239-00047345-00047485 is pretty cool we got like a part eighth
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00240-00047486-00047698 Manhattan feel going with that part of
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00241-00047699-00047890 the figure but it's just his regular
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00242-00047891-00048124 green dress shirt button down there it's
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00243-00048125-00048250 pretty much just like your part for
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00244-00048251-00048430 nikah figure besides the accessories and
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00245-00048431-00048544 then of course the shine and the
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00246-00048545-00048754 darkness to the figure going down into
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00247-00048755-00049003 the pants you do get his own his hands
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00248-00049004-00049255 are pretty rubble rubber so that it's
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00249-00049256-00049381 you know pliable you can move it around
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00250-00049382-00049519 get the machete and the axe and
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00251-00049520-00049672 everything in his hands I kind of wish
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00252-00049673-00049843 that we got a different hand here so we
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00253-00049844-00049987 could interchange the axe so he could
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00254-00049988-00050149 hold it with both hands going down to
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00255-00050150-00050368 the pants you have his rubber crutch
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00256-00050369-00050506 there for you know the better
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00257-00050507-00050740 articulation you have you know just his
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00258-00050741-00051001 grimy dark khaki pants there that have
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00259-00051002-00051202 just been ruined by the rain and the mud
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00260-00051203-00051436 and everything so Jason's got pretty
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00261-00051437-00051673 dirty now going down into the shoes you
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00262-00051674-00051844 got his regular boots they're pretty
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00263-00051845-00051973 nice details going on with all this
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00264-00051974-00052102 figure NECA always kills it with the
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00265-00052103-00052324 details guys they always deliver so if
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00266-00052325-00052430 you're looking for a highly detailed
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00267-00052432-00052680 horror action figure especially Friday
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00268-00052682-00052828 the 13th you definitely want to go with
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00269-00052829-00052990 NECA I mean made that's pretty sure they
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00270-00052991-00053134 are the only ones that even make the
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00271-00053135-00053299 figures and any ones that were made in
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00272-00053300-00053545 the past are none on these levels of
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00273-00053546-00053695 details so you definitely want to grab
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00274-00053696-00053908 these but that pretty much does it for
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00275-00053909-00054079 the part 5 guys not much different from
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00276-00054079-00054271 the par 4 but it is cool that we
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00277-00054272-00054417 included a part 5 now we're gonna get
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00278-00054419-00054622 into some comparisons where I compare it
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00279-00054623-00054844 to part 4 so getting him to Jason
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00280-00054845-00054991 Voorhees comparison guys you can see we
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00281-00054991-00055165 have part 4 on the left and part 5 on
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00282-00055166-00055297 the right and like I said I mean it's
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00283-00055298-00055462 basically the same exact figure better
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00284-00055463-00055680 paint detail and you know the rain and
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00285-00055682-00055828 the wetness and the mud on the mask and
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00286-00055829-00055996 everything is pretty frickin epic you
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00287-00055997-00056164 can see going down here
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00288-00056165-00056389 the lighter brown over here with the
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00289-00056390-00056503 blood and everything the blood it's
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00290-00056504-00056695 pretty much washed off over here so you
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00291-00056696-00056848 can't really see any blood again it's
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00292-00056849-00057094 mostly mud and dirt and grass and grime
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00293-00057095-00057283 and everything from him being buried or
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00294-00057284-00057579 whatever so yeah that's pretty much it
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00295-00057580-00057799 for your comparison I mean if I had to
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00296-00057800-00057952 pick one I think I like part four just a
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00297-00057953-00058132 little bit better however if you're
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00298-00058133-00058303 Jason mark Friday the 13th mark you
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00299-00058304-00058489 definitely need to grab the par 5 even
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00300-00058490-00058629 though you know he's not even really in
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00301-00058630-00058771 the film you definitely want to grab it
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00302-00058772-00058948 so you can complete your Jason Friday
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00303-00058949-00059200 the 13th timeline very nice looking
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00304-00059201-00059359 figure but yes guys that pretty much
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00305-00059360-00059536 does it for your neck up Friday the 13th
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00306-00059537-00059779 part 5 a new beginning dream sequence
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00307-00059779-00059950 Jason Voorhees figure again if you would
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00308-00059951-00060124 like to pick this up go over to necklace
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00309-00060125-00060337 ebay end of amazon official pages and
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00310-00060338-00060525 grab this thing they also sell in
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00311-00060526-00060826 exclusive retailers like Target and I'm
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00312-00060827-00060958 not sure if you can get them at Walmart
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00313-00060959-00061147 I don't think you can so definitely
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00314-00061148-00061312 check out your targets definitely go
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00315-00061313-00061498 online pick up this on Amazon and eBay
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00316-00061499-00061690 if you guys enjoyed the review let me
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00317-00061691-00061795 know down in the comment section below
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d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00319-00062033-00062229 better do you like part 4 or 5 which
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00320-00062230-00062383 Jason figure are you most looking
d7Wm5Ptm2eE-00321-00062384-00062529 forward to in the future from NECA
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d9e44SEJfJ8-00046-00012464-00012631 yourself blessed consider yourself the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00047-00012632-00012802 right person and know that there's a
d9e44SEJfJ8-00048-00012803-00013196 reason that you're on this call so we're
d9e44SEJfJ8-00049-00013197-00013305 going to get right into
d9e44SEJfJ8-00050-00013306-00013704 it this is the four way cash flow but
d9e44SEJfJ8-00051-00013705-00013860 before I get into that I just want to
d9e44SEJfJ8-00052-00013861-00014238 let you know the reason that that I am
d9e44SEJfJ8-00053-00014238-00014463 doing this presentation the reason that
d9e44SEJfJ8-00054-00014463-00014690 I'm giving you this information is
d9e44SEJfJ8-00055-00014691-00015033 because I was in a similar situation as
d9e44SEJfJ8-00056-00015034-00015354 everybody on this call I was open minded
d9e44SEJfJ8-00057-00015355-00015605 I was looking for new answers I worked a
d9e44SEJfJ8-00058-00015606-00015866 job you know everybody's different but
d9e44SEJfJ8-00059-00015868-00016047 for me I was making music and I just
d9e44SEJfJ8-00060-00016047-00016380 needed a way to to live the life that I
d9e44SEJfJ8-00061-00016381-00016683 wanted like my job wasn't allowing me to
d9e44SEJfJ8-00062-00016684-00016928 have the money to go to the studio and
d9e44SEJfJ8-00063-00016929-00017217 to do what I had wanted with my life so
d9e44SEJfJ8-00064-00017218-00017463 when somebody put me on a call just like
d9e44SEJfJ8-00065-00017464-00017772 this one and I saw the vision I realized
d9e44SEJfJ8-00066-00017773-00018030 that this was for me I also realized by
d9e44SEJfJ8-00067-00018031-00018267 by doing this on a daily basis that this
d9e44SEJfJ8-00068-00018268-00018525 is for everybody this is for people that
d9e44SEJfJ8-00069-00018526-00018794 don't have money this is for people that
d9e44SEJfJ8-00070-00018795-00019068 do have money is for people this is for
d9e44SEJfJ8-00071-00019069-00019386 everybody because anybody who attains a
d9e44SEJfJ8-00072-00019387-00019769 skillset that teaches you welcome
d9e44SEJfJ8-00073-00019770-00019959 anybody who attains a skillset that
d9e44SEJfJ8-00074-00019960-00020163 teaches you how to compound your money
d9e44SEJfJ8-00075-00020164-00020453 is going to benefit from it because it's
d9e44SEJfJ8-00076-00020454-00020688 not going to just benefit you it's going
d9e44SEJfJ8-00077-00020689-00020874 to benefit the people around you to have
d9e44SEJfJ8-00078-00020875-00021039 this skill set and be able to apply it
d9e44SEJfJ8-00079-00021040-00021384 in your life so let's get straight to it
d9e44SEJfJ8-00080-00021385-00021612 I want to show you how this all works it
d9e44SEJfJ8-00081-00021613-00021858 all makes sense I promise the first
d9e44SEJfJ8-00082-00021859-00021993 thing we'll talk about is the four way
d9e44SEJfJ8-00083-00021994-00022302 cash flow now this chart right here this
d9e44SEJfJ8-00084-00022303-00022712 is this is what's going on we got 95
d9e44SEJfJ8-00085-00022713-00022968 percent of people the average person
d9e44SEJfJ8-00086-00022969-00023280 right is making five percent of the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00087-00023281-00023522 entire market the market is the foreign
d9e44SEJfJ8-00088-00023523-00023700 exchange market that's what we're here
d9e44SEJfJ8-00089-00023701-00023858 to talk about we're here to talk about
d9e44SEJfJ8-00090-00023859-00024111 how the foreign exchange market can
d9e44SEJfJ8-00091-00024112-00024441 benefit you how it can help you go
d9e44SEJfJ8-00092-00024442-00024659 towards whatever goals you got in life
d9e44SEJfJ8-00093-00024660-00024822 because again if you attain this skill
d9e44SEJfJ8-00094-00024823-00025037 set and you're able to make money on the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00095-00025038-00025314 go and do it as you please you're able
d9e44SEJfJ8-00096-00025315-00025539 to go follow your dreams go towards your
d9e44SEJfJ8-00097-00025540-00025869 goals right so if you're 95 percent like
d9e44SEJfJ8-00098-00025870-00026096 I said the average person is making five
d9e44SEJfJ8-00099-00026097-00026390 percent the entire market the foreign
d9e44SEJfJ8-00100-00026391-00026670 exchange market is a market
d9e44SEJfJ8-00101-00026670-00026927 it five to six trillion dollars per day
d9e44SEJfJ8-00102-00026928-00027239 flows through this market we didn't
d9e44SEJfJ8-00103-00027241-00027395 really learn this growing up we didn't
d9e44SEJfJ8-00104-00027397-00027677 learn this in school but five excuse me
d9e44SEJfJ8-00105-00027678-00027855 five to six trillion dollars a day is
d9e44SEJfJ8-00106-00027856-00028104 flowing through this market so the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00107-00028105-00028424 majority of people are only making 5% of
d9e44SEJfJ8-00108-00028425-00028767 all this money now you have the 5% right
d9e44SEJfJ8-00109-00028768-00028952 you have the the business owners and you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00110-00028953-00029130 have the investors that are making
d9e44SEJfJ8-00111-00029131-00029376 ninety five percent of what's flowing
d9e44SEJfJ8-00112-00029377-00029627 through this market so you're probably
d9e44SEJfJ8-00113-00029628-00029823 like okay that's that's kind of
d9e44SEJfJ8-00114-00029824-00030152 backwards right that's backwards why why
d9e44SEJfJ8-00115-00030153-00030545 are why is there such a small amount of
d9e44SEJfJ8-00116-00030547-00030732 people that are making most of the money
d9e44SEJfJ8-00117-00030733-00030999 that's because they're investing that's
d9e44SEJfJ8-00118-00031000-00031152 because they're using money to make
d9e44SEJfJ8-00119-00031152-00031335 money that's because they have
d9e44SEJfJ8-00120-00031336-00031617 information that the average person
d9e44SEJfJ8-00121-00031618-00031814 doesn't know about a lot of people think
d9e44SEJfJ8-00122-00031815-00032249 Oh stocks are investing that's four
d9e44SEJfJ8-00123-00032250-00032558 that's four rich people no no no people
d9e44SEJfJ8-00124-00032559-00032835 get rich by investing you know people
d9e44SEJfJ8-00125-00032836-00033077 make more money by investing we just
d9e44SEJfJ8-00126-00033078-00033237 weren't taught how to do these things so
d9e44SEJfJ8-00127-00033238-00033555 now what I'm showing you is how to
d9e44SEJfJ8-00128-00033556-00033758 become that one percent how to have that
d9e44SEJfJ8-00129-00033759-00033983 investor mindset how to use a platform
d9e44SEJfJ8-00130-00033984-00034317 that will teach you that right this is
d9e44SEJfJ8-00131-00034318-00034554 something I wish was a class when I went
d9e44SEJfJ8-00132-00034555-00034776 to college because everything I learned
d9e44SEJfJ8-00133-00034777-00034998 in college really didn't get me far in
d9e44SEJfJ8-00134-00034999-00035256 life not to say that college isn't good
d9e44SEJfJ8-00135-00035257-00035505 but for me I didn't get what I was
d9e44SEJfJ8-00136-00035506-00035733 looking for out of college so this one
d9e44SEJfJ8-00137-00035734-00036054 percent investor mindset this is this is
d9e44SEJfJ8-00138-00036055-00036252 where word this is what we're aiming to
d9e44SEJfJ8-00139-00036253-00036486 do is get you to become an investor and
d9e44SEJfJ8-00140-00036487-00036677 show you the benefits of it like I said
d9e44SEJfJ8-00141-00036678-00036962 this is for everybody so how would you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00142-00036963-00037206 feel if you had total control over every
d9e44SEJfJ8-00143-00037207-00037412 aspect of your life what I said in the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00144-00037413-00037731 beginning what what is it that you want
d9e44SEJfJ8-00145-00037732-00037949 to do with your life when you start a
d9e44SEJfJ8-00146-00037950-00038174 business and you start a restaurant if
d9e44SEJfJ8-00147-00038175-00038448 you start a you know a recording studio
d9e44SEJfJ8-00148-00038449-00038687 a yoga studio
d9e44SEJfJ8-00149-00038688-00038939 any type of business you have to have a
d9e44SEJfJ8-00150-00038940-00039218 huge amount of capital you have to have
d9e44SEJfJ8-00151-00039219-00039515 money to make that a possibility you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00152-00039516-00039726 have to give up all your time to make
d9e44SEJfJ8-00153-00039727-00040029 that a reality right so
d9e44SEJfJ8-00154-00040030-00040245 when you become an investor and you're
d9e44SEJfJ8-00155-00040246-00040434 able to make money from your smartphone
d9e44SEJfJ8-00156-00040435-00040689 and all you need is Wi-Fi and if the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00157-00040690-00040860 Wi-Fi doesn't work sometimes I'll just
d9e44SEJfJ8-00158-00040861-00041184 tap into the LTE right like if you had
d9e44SEJfJ8-00159-00041185-00041379 your phone on you and you know how to
d9e44SEJfJ8-00160-00041380-00041700 make money from your phone how would you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00161-00041701-00041880 feel if you're able to do that if you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00162-00041881-00042075 don't have to clock into a job that you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00163-00042076-00042300 absolutely hate or maybe you like it
d9e44SEJfJ8-00164-00042301-00042543 but how would you feel if you're able to
d9e44SEJfJ8-00165-00042544-00042810 do as you please on the go how would you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00166-00042811-00043011 feel if you had the money to do what you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00167-00043012-00043203 wanted in life how would you feel if you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00168-00043204-00043365 had the time to do what you wanted it
d9e44SEJfJ8-00169-00043366-00043842 like so this is where the foreign
d9e44SEJfJ8-00170-00043843-00044103 exchange market comes in that's what we
d9e44SEJfJ8-00171-00044104-00044256 do here that's where we're teaching you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00172-00044257-00044547 about and there's so much more to the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00173-00044548-00044730 educational platform that I'm showing
d9e44SEJfJ8-00174-00044731-00044874 you than just the foreign exchange
d9e44SEJfJ8-00175-00044875-00045227 market but it's a great start so if
d9e44SEJfJ8-00176-00045228-00045564 you've ever been out the country or even
d9e44SEJfJ8-00177-00045565-00045768 if you haven't when you go out of the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00178-00045769-00045996 country for example I went to London
d9e44SEJfJ8-00179-00045997-00046386 recently I paid I got off the plane I
d9e44SEJfJ8-00180-00046387-00046644 took my money and I went to the ATM
d9e44SEJfJ8-00181-00046645-00046941 machine and I got London money all right
d9e44SEJfJ8-00182-00046942-00047301 I got money from their ATM every country
d9e44SEJfJ8-00183-00047302-00047499 has a different type of currency so
d9e44SEJfJ8-00184-00047500-00047798 anytime you leave the country you get
d9e44SEJfJ8-00185-00047799-00047997 sometimes you get more money back
d9e44SEJfJ8-00186-00047998-00048273 sometimes you get less money back now
d9e44SEJfJ8-00187-00048274-00048468 what we want to teach you is how to make
d9e44SEJfJ8-00188-00048469-00048762 that work for you how are you going to
d9e44SEJfJ8-00189-00048763-00049158 get a profit from a different from the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00190-00049159-00049362 exchange the exchange rate is
d9e44SEJfJ8-00191-00049363-00049539 fluctuating it's always going up and
d9e44SEJfJ8-00192-00049540-00049857 down so you know how to make that profit
d9e44SEJfJ8-00193-00049858-00050040 from your phone you don't have to leave
d9e44SEJfJ8-00194-00050041-00050268 the country a lot of people understand
d9e44SEJfJ8-00195-00050269-00050517 that you can use your cellphone and
d9e44SEJfJ8-00196-00050518-00050730 trade any pair of currency without even
d9e44SEJfJ8-00197-00050731-00050924 leaving the country
d9e44SEJfJ8-00198-00050925-00051204 now there's another market growing
d9e44SEJfJ8-00199-00051204-00051429 towards 1 trillion I'm sure a lot of you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00200-00051429-00051617 heard about it it's crypto currency
d9e44SEJfJ8-00201-00051619-00051854 crypto currency is basically digital
d9e44SEJfJ8-00202-00051855-00052164 money that's really what it is crypto
d9e44SEJfJ8-00203-00052165-00052377 currency is digital money we're in a
d9e44SEJfJ8-00204-00052378-00052677 we're in a tech technological age excuse
d9e44SEJfJ8-00205-00052678-00052902 me we're in a technological age right
d9e44SEJfJ8-00206-00052903-00053340 and everything is advancing all we do is
d9e44SEJfJ8-00207-00053341-00053413 use our phone
d9e44SEJfJ8-00208-00053414-00053611 we could do everything off our phones we
d9e44SEJfJ8-00209-00053612-00053842 could watch TV we could send messages we
d9e44SEJfJ8-00210-00053843-00054059 could zoom we can you know we could
d9e44SEJfJ8-00211-00054060-00054266 FaceTime we could do all these things so
d9e44SEJfJ8-00212-00054266-00054536 it only makes sense that everything
d9e44SEJfJ8-00213-00054537-00054850 moves accordingly it only makes sense
d9e44SEJfJ8-00214-00054851-00055174 that everything goes with technology
d9e44SEJfJ8-00215-00055175-00055310 because we're growing and growing on a
d9e44SEJfJ8-00216-00055311-00055543 daily basis so the fact that money is
d9e44SEJfJ8-00217-00055544-00055741 going towards that direction makes
d9e44SEJfJ8-00218-00055742-00056029 perfect sense I don't need to actually
d9e44SEJfJ8-00219-00056030-00056323 have cash I literally just went to the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00220-00056324-00056591 store I use my card I don't have to give
d9e44SEJfJ8-00221-00056591-00056891 any cash to get a product or a service a
d9e44SEJfJ8-00222-00056891-00057098 lot of times when you have auto pay
d9e44SEJfJ8-00223-00057099-00057329 money is coming out of your bank account
d9e44SEJfJ8-00224-00057329-00057574 before you even touch it you know most
d9e44SEJfJ8-00225-00057575-00057803 of the time we're not even using cash so
d9e44SEJfJ8-00226-00057804-00058022 the fact that money is advancing with
d9e44SEJfJ8-00227-00058023-00058267 technology and becoming you know digital
d9e44SEJfJ8-00228-00058268-00058490 you want to be ahead of the curve any
d9e44SEJfJ8-00229-00058491-00058709 time you're catching a trend any time
d9e44SEJfJ8-00230-00058710-00058865 you're at the beginning of a wave you're
d9e44SEJfJ8-00231-00058866-00059129 gonna benefit out of it imagine if you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00232-00059129-00059234 were one of the first people to use
d9e44SEJfJ8-00233-00059235-00059593 Facebook or Instagram or snapchat and
d9e44SEJfJ8-00234-00059594-00059791 you saw it booming you saw it going in a
d9e44SEJfJ8-00235-00059792-00059968 certain direction you hopped on that
d9e44SEJfJ8-00236-00059969-00060151 trend imagine if you were the first one
d9e44SEJfJ8-00237-00060152-00060371 now imagine it you're one of the first
d9e44SEJfJ8-00238-00060372-00060625 people to hop on a trend that involves a
d9e44SEJfJ8-00239-00060626-00061024 trillion dollar market exactly it would
d9e44SEJfJ8-00240-00061025-00061397 be great so cryptocurrency it's becoming
d9e44SEJfJ8-00241-00061398-00061606 global forms of payment there's already
d9e44SEJfJ8-00242-00061607-00061778 a bunch of places that are accepting
d9e44SEJfJ8-00243-00061779-00061997 crypto cash at lets you use
d9e44SEJfJ8-00244-00061998-00062338 cryptocurrency this educational platform
d9e44SEJfJ8-00245-00062339-00062632 for example takes a Bitcoin you can
d9e44SEJfJ8-00246-00062633-00062863 trade with Bitcoin you can make money
d9e44SEJfJ8-00247-00062864-00063073 off of Bitcoin you can invest in Bitcoin
d9e44SEJfJ8-00248-00063074-00063341 but the problem is a lot of people don't
d9e44SEJfJ8-00249-00063341-00063586 know anything about Bitcoin so it's
d9e44SEJfJ8-00250-00063587-00063769 great to have a platform to be able to
d9e44SEJfJ8-00251-00063770-00064162 learn ok what what is Bitcoin right how
d9e44SEJfJ8-00252-00064163-00064415 did this even start how do I get into it
d9e44SEJfJ8-00253-00064416-00064723 how do I make money off of it so that's
d9e44SEJfJ8-00254-00064724-00064963 that's really just the cryptocurrency
d9e44SEJfJ8-00255-00064964-00065279 space so we have an entire Academy
d9e44SEJfJ8-00256-00065279-00065587 teaching you how to benefit how to catch
d9e44SEJfJ8-00257-00065588-00065786 this trend right how to ride this wave
d9e44SEJfJ8-00258-00065787-00066043 of crypto how to be one of the people to
d9e44SEJfJ8-00259-00066044-00066215 benefit because I know you hear a lot of
d9e44SEJfJ8-00260-00066216-00066515 people say oh I had cryptocurrency you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00261-00066516-00066700 know a couple years ago and then I made
d9e44SEJfJ8-00262-00066701-00066787 all this money
d9e44SEJfJ8-00263-00066788-00066985 and some of those people didn't even
d9e44SEJfJ8-00264-00066986-00067249 know that crypto was gonna be booming
d9e44SEJfJ8-00265-00067250-00067498 like it was some people just happen to
d9e44SEJfJ8-00266-00067499-00067735 have crypto some people are just messing
d9e44SEJfJ8-00267-00067736-00067918 around and ended up making a ton of
d9e44SEJfJ8-00268-00067919-00068321 money off of it so to be one of the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00269-00068322-00068615 people you know cuz this trend it's
d9e44SEJfJ8-00270-00068616-00068822 still getting started it's been years
d9e44SEJfJ8-00271-00068823-00069128 but people still aren't up on crypto you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00272-00069129-00069290 know people still don't know much about
d9e44SEJfJ8-00273-00069291-00069550 digital currency there's a lot of people
d9e44SEJfJ8-00274-00069551-00069679 that are on that trend you want to be
d9e44SEJfJ8-00275-00069680-00069896 one of those people so to have an entire
d9e44SEJfJ8-00276-00069897-00070225 Academy to have reputable incredible
d9e44SEJfJ8-00277-00070226-00070504 mentors that are teaching you crypto
d9e44SEJfJ8-00278-00070505-00070732 people that have been at the beginning
d9e44SEJfJ8-00279-00070733-00070879 of this wave people that have been doing
d9e44SEJfJ8-00280-00070880-00071065 this for years and years and years are
d9e44SEJfJ8-00281-00071066-00071266 suddenly your teachers and they're able
d9e44SEJfJ8-00282-00071267-00071596 to show you how you can win off a crypto
d9e44SEJfJ8-00283-00071597-00071875 so what I've been mentioning this whole
d9e44SEJfJ8-00284-00071876-00072088 time is this educational platform we had
d9e44SEJfJ8-00285-00072089-00072547 this wonderful superb I could say that
d9e44SEJfJ8-00286-00072548-00072734 with confidence because I love this like
d9e44SEJfJ8-00287-00072735-00073024 this is an online college course for
d9e44SEJfJ8-00288-00073025-00073351 making money like simply put I'm not
d9e44SEJfJ8-00289-00073352-00073547 going to sugarcoat it like it's an
d9e44SEJfJ8-00290-00073548-00073897 online educational platform that teaches
d9e44SEJfJ8-00291-00073898-00074173 you how to make money through investing
d9e44SEJfJ8-00292-00074174-00074467 in multiple ways and it says learning
d9e44SEJfJ8-00293-00074468-00074676 simplified and the funny thing is like
d9e44SEJfJ8-00294-00074677-00075022 that's really what it is College for me
d9e44SEJfJ8-00295-00075023-00075310 was super complex and then I'm learning
d9e44SEJfJ8-00296-00075311-00075541 a bunch of stuff that like I felt like I
d9e44SEJfJ8-00297-00075542-00075797 was wasting my time every time I'm on
d9e44SEJfJ8-00298-00075798-00076006 this platform and using it personally
d9e44SEJfJ8-00299-00076007-00076378 I'm like okay like I know the common
d9e44SEJfJ8-00300-00076379-00076576 goal is to be able to have financial
d9e44SEJfJ8-00301-00076577-00076859 freedom and every time I'm logged in I'm
d9e44SEJfJ8-00302-00076860-00077266 seeing how I'm growing it's just one
d9e44SEJfJ8-00303-00077267-00077512 common thing how do I make money how do
d9e44SEJfJ8-00304-00077513-00077696 I have financial freedom and how do I
d9e44SEJfJ8-00305-00077697-00077915 have time freedom how do I live a better
d9e44SEJfJ8-00306-00077916-00078142 life that's what this platform is going
d9e44SEJfJ8-00307-00078143-00078388 to do for you as long as you tap in as
d9e44SEJfJ8-00308-00078389-00078553 long as you put in the work take the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00309-00078554-00078723 time out whether it's one hour per day
d9e44SEJfJ8-00310-00078724-00078952 getting started you know maybe a half
d9e44SEJfJ8-00311-00078953-00079138 hour per day maybe one video per day
d9e44SEJfJ8-00312-00079139-00079411 something that you can commit to because
d9e44SEJfJ8-00313-00079412-00079646 I promise you after a while after you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00314-00079647-00079855 start seeing results you're just
d9e44SEJfJ8-00315-00079856-00079998 naturally going to be like you know what
d9e44SEJfJ8-00316-00079999-00080183 let me step it up
d9e44SEJfJ8-00317-00080184-00080474 I'm actually loving the fact that things
d9e44SEJfJ8-00318-00080475-00080699 are changing this is really benefiting
d9e44SEJfJ8-00319-00080700-00080810 me let me step it up
d9e44SEJfJ8-00320-00080811-00081011 so this is what the platform looks like
d9e44SEJfJ8-00321-00081012-00081428 on your computer for an exchange master
d9e44SEJfJ8-00322-00081429-00081635 Academy so this is where I personally
d9e44SEJfJ8-00323-00081636-00081953 started and I love the fact that I can
d9e44SEJfJ8-00324-00081954-00082133 learn forex from the right people on a
d9e44SEJfJ8-00325-00082134-00082538 daily basis right here this this is
d9e44SEJfJ8-00326-00082539-00082832 great because it shows you we keep
d9e44SEJfJ8-00327-00082833-00083141 relating this to school so imagine you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00328-00083142-00083267 know remember when you would get a
d9e44SEJfJ8-00329-00083268-00083669 report card so let's say this is this is
d9e44SEJfJ8-00330-00083670-00083930 your money-making report card if you're
d9e44SEJfJ8-00331-00083931-00084206 watching a video right let's say where
d9e44SEJfJ8-00332-00084207-00084380 it says number one what is forex if
d9e44SEJfJ8-00333-00084381-00084653 you're watching this video and then you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00334-00084654-00084866 click over here in your back-office and
d9e44SEJfJ8-00335-00084867-00085199 then you take a quiz on what is forex if
d9e44SEJfJ8-00336-00085200-00085526 you get 100 you just got an A+ you're
d9e44SEJfJ8-00337-00085527-00085694 ready to move on to the next step
d9e44SEJfJ8-00338-00085695-00085979 see this is something that that is
d9e44SEJfJ8-00339-00085980-00086144 showing you how to invest and make money
d9e44SEJfJ8-00340-00086145-00086333 so you want to make sure that you're
d9e44SEJfJ8-00341-00086334-00086570 actually you know retaining the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00342-00086571-00086711 information you want to make sure that
d9e44SEJfJ8-00343-00086712-00086903 you're learning so this is great because
d9e44SEJfJ8-00344-00086904-00087185 it lets you quiz yourself and see okay
d9e44SEJfJ8-00345-00087186-00087470 am i doing good if you get a 40 on it
d9e44SEJfJ8-00346-00087471-00087680 watch it again because again this is
d9e44SEJfJ8-00347-00087681-00087893 you're taking a quiz on something that
d9e44SEJfJ8-00348-00087894-00088070 you want so you see you didn't do so
d9e44SEJfJ8-00349-00088071-00088319 well you can always go back take the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00350-00088320-00088622 quiz watch the video again and then move
d9e44SEJfJ8-00351-00088623-00088784 on from there but this is great because
d9e44SEJfJ8-00352-00088785-00089006 it it's like a report card it just shows
d9e44SEJfJ8-00353-00089007-00089315 you how good you're doing so one of the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00354-00089316-00089561 best things about this right you have
d9e44SEJfJ8-00355-00089562-00089816 you have your your basic videos on how
d9e44SEJfJ8-00356-00089817-00090110 to trade in the foreign exchange market
d9e44SEJfJ8-00357-00090111-00090410 you have you have your basic or
d9e44SEJfJ8-00358-00090411-00090617 intermediate your advanced videos right
d9e44SEJfJ8-00359-00090618-00090785 you start out with all that you have the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00360-00090786-00091094 Academy that's great but another thing
d9e44SEJfJ8-00361-00091095-00091310 that this platform has has one of the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00362-00091311-00091487 best things that I love about it is the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00363-00091488-00091871 live mentorship so once you're using
d9e44SEJfJ8-00364-00091872-00092084 this platform you don't not only do you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00365-00092085-00092414 have a bunch of videos that show you how
d9e44SEJfJ8-00366-00092415-00092618 to invest that show you how to level up
d9e44SEJfJ8-00367-00092619-00092918 you actually have mentorship from actual
d9e44SEJfJ8-00368-00092919-00093242 people like these are all real educators
d9e44SEJfJ8-00369-00093243-00093440 it's the same as college it's like
d9e44SEJfJ8-00370-00093441-00093521 staying
d9e44SEJfJ8-00371-00093522-00093746 after it's like getting tutored accept
d9e44SEJfJ8-00372-00093747-00094067 your tutor is a six and a seven figure
d9e44SEJfJ8-00373-00094068-00094294 mentor some of these teachers that have
d9e44SEJfJ8-00374-00094295-00094547 been trading for five ten years they
d9e44SEJfJ8-00375-00094548-00094673 know what they're doing
d9e44SEJfJ8-00376-00094674-00094875 you know you can you can learn anything
d9e44SEJfJ8-00377-00094876-00095143 pretty much on YouTube to be honest with
d9e44SEJfJ8-00378-00095144-00095309 you you can learn a lot of things on
d9e44SEJfJ8-00379-00095310-00095522 YouTube you can learn this on YouTube
d9e44SEJfJ8-00380-00095523-00095662 you can learn how to trade Forex on
d9e44SEJfJ8-00381-00095663-00095849 YouTube but a lot of people aren't
d9e44SEJfJ8-00382-00095850-00096043 reputable a lot of people can't show you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00383-00096044-00096301 results a lot of people don't have that
d9e44SEJfJ8-00384-00096302-00096517 experience or a lot of people might
d9e44SEJfJ8-00385-00096518-00096694 teach you a strategy that just doesn't
d9e44SEJfJ8-00386-00096695-00096961 work for you so when you have over a
d9e44SEJfJ8-00387-00096962-00097213 hundred different educators showing you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00388-00097214-00097450 how to use this showing you different
d9e44SEJfJ8-00389-00097451-00097717 strategies it's like college you find
d9e44SEJfJ8-00390-00097718-00097951 the teachers that you like oh I love
d9e44SEJfJ8-00391-00097952-00098096 this teacher I'm gonna pick them for the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00392-00098097-00098423 next semester for you know for English
d9e44SEJfJ8-00393-00098424-00098723 too or whatever right so you find the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00394-00098724-00098857 teachers that you like you find the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00395-00098858-00099086 educators that you love you you go on
d9e44SEJfJ8-00396-00099087-00099292 their lives and you watch their videos
d9e44SEJfJ8-00397-00099293-00099536 you get on their schedule so this is
d9e44SEJfJ8-00398-00099537-00099746 what the schedule looks like if you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00399-00099747-00100067 can't get on somebody scheduled this is
d9e44SEJfJ8-00400-00100068-00100271 this is the difference with this
d9e44SEJfJ8-00401-00100272-00100448 platform in school you can't get on
d9e44SEJfJ8-00402-00100449-00100799 somebody schedule what you can do is go
d9e44SEJfJ8-00403-00100800-00101005 to their recorded videos every single
d9e44SEJfJ8-00404-00101006-00101344 session from all these educators like I
d9e44SEJfJ8-00405-00101345-00101561 said over 100 of them every single
d9e44SEJfJ8-00406-00101562-00101897 session is recorded so now essentially
d9e44SEJfJ8-00407-00101898-00102116 you have Netflix for Forex you have
d9e44SEJfJ8-00408-00102117-00102376 Netflix for making money you have
d9e44SEJfJ8-00409-00102377-00102568 Netflix for cryptocurrency
d9e44SEJfJ8-00410-00102569-00102974 um all these teachers are great but the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00411-00102975-00103159 best thing to do is stick with a couple
d9e44SEJfJ8-00412-00103160-00103400 stick with two or three of them you know
d9e44SEJfJ8-00413-00103401-00103606 stick with what works for you you can
d9e44SEJfJ8-00414-00103607-00103879 adjust these things to your schedule you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00415-00103880-00104051 can make this work for you this isn't
d9e44SEJfJ8-00416-00104052-00104182 something where you have to be on
d9e44SEJfJ8-00417-00104183-00104447 everybody's know you want to find a
d9e44SEJfJ8-00418-00104448-00104635 couple strategies that are easy to
d9e44SEJfJ8-00419-00104636-00104993 understand right that are easy to help
d9e44SEJfJ8-00420-00104994-00105245 you make money some of these educators I
d9e44SEJfJ8-00421-00105246-00105521 mean a lot of them they trade live so
d9e44SEJfJ8-00422-00105522-00105814 let's say you're on Christopher Derek's
d9e44SEJfJ8-00423-00105815-00106063 session around 2:00 in the morning
d9e44SEJfJ8-00424-00106064-00106363 you're on his session he's showing you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00425-00106364-00106583 how to trade but then he's showing you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00426-00106583-00106915 also the trades that he's taking so
d9e44SEJfJ8-00427-00106916-00107164 you got a guy who who absolutely knows
d9e44SEJfJ8-00428-00107165-00107287 what he's doing
d9e44SEJfJ8-00429-00107288-00107509 you know you have one of your favorite
d9e44SEJfJ8-00430-00107510-00107836 teachers that you trust and respect and
d9e44SEJfJ8-00431-00107837-00108034 then he's calling out live trades and
d9e44SEJfJ8-00432-00108035-00108490 he's like hey guys trade uh AUD K this
d9e44SEJfJ8-00433-00108491-00108647 is the trade that I'm going to take
d9e44SEJfJ8-00434-00108648-00108944 right now if this guy's taking a trade
d9e44SEJfJ8-00435-00108945-00109172 and I'm on his life like I'm taking the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00436-00109173-00109496 trade excuse me he knows way more than
d9e44SEJfJ8-00437-00109497-00109777 me he's been doing this for years
d9e44SEJfJ8-00438-00109778-00110023 he's a educator so he he already has
d9e44SEJfJ8-00439-00110024-00110191 that he's a educator so he knows what
d9e44SEJfJ8-00440-00110192-00110236 he's doing
d9e44SEJfJ8-00441-00110237-00110437 so sometimes these people are going to
d9e44SEJfJ8-00442-00110438-00110708 tell you what to trade and if you take
d9e44SEJfJ8-00443-00110708-00110914 it you're gonna make a profit not every
d9e44SEJfJ8-00444-00110915-00111127 single time because nobody said that
d9e44SEJfJ8-00445-00111128-00111376 this you know if anybody tells you Forex
d9e44SEJfJ8-00446-00111377-00111608 is perfect or really anything in life is
d9e44SEJfJ8-00447-00111608-00111835 perfect they're lying to you you know
d9e44SEJfJ8-00448-00111836-00112099 the the point is to learn as much as you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00449-00112100-00112309 can from these educators to get more
d9e44SEJfJ8-00450-00112310-00112566 wins than losses to have more
d9e44SEJfJ8-00451-00112567-00112816 confirmations so you know when you're
d9e44SEJfJ8-00452-00112817-00113026 going into a trade okay I'm gonna profit
d9e44SEJfJ8-00453-00113027-00113311 from this where I have a 90% chance of
d9e44SEJfJ8-00454-00113312-00113584 profiting or an 80% chance of profiting
d9e44SEJfJ8-00455-00113585-00113788 that's what you want to do the markets
d9e44SEJfJ8-00456-00113789-00113926 either going one way or the other it's
d9e44SEJfJ8-00457-00113927-00114088 either going up or it's going down you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00458-00114089-00114235 want to be on the right side of that
d9e44SEJfJ8-00459-00114236-00114446 trade every time so when you're learning
d9e44SEJfJ8-00460-00114447-00114673 how to trade you're gonna be taking way
d9e44SEJfJ8-00461-00114674-00114883 more wins than losses it's just about
d9e44SEJfJ8-00462-00114884-00115082 taking the time and learning from these
d9e44SEJfJ8-00463-00115083-00115327 educators and dedicating you know your
d9e44SEJfJ8-00464-00115328-00115537 your time to learn a skill set that's
d9e44SEJfJ8-00465-00115538-00115999 going to help you hello Center we have a
d9e44SEJfJ8-00466-00116000-00116224 bunch of products these are great
d9e44SEJfJ8-00467-00116225-00116590 because if you're new if you I came into
d9e44SEJfJ8-00468-00116591-00116698 this and I don't know anything about
d9e44SEJfJ8-00469-00116699-00116953 trading so the thing about these
d9e44SEJfJ8-00470-00116954-00117148 products that's great if you're new
d9e44SEJfJ8-00471-00117149-00117443 you're still able to make money like you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00472-00117444-00117727 could be on day one I would recommend on
d9e44SEJfJ8-00473-00117728-00117949 day one you use a demo account you know
d9e44SEJfJ8-00474-00117950-00118196 I would recommend that just so you can
d9e44SEJfJ8-00475-00118197-00118375 get familiar with the markets get
d9e44SEJfJ8-00476-00118376-00118627 familiar with entering trades you notice
d9e44SEJfJ8-00477-00118628-00119057 a net but let's say you know your second
d9e44SEJfJ8-00478-00119058-00119258 week because this is this is how I I
d9e44SEJfJ8-00479-00119258-00119507 train people on my team let's say your
d9e44SEJfJ8-00480-00119508-00119797 second week use demo you're you're
d9e44SEJfJ8-00481-00119798-00120013 you're feeling confident you know how to
d9e44SEJfJ8-00482-00120014-00120269 place a trade on your app on your phone
d9e44SEJfJ8-00483-00120270-00120482 let's say you have one of these products
d9e44SEJfJ8-00484-00120483-00120706 right you have one called swipe trades
d9e44SEJfJ8-00485-00120707-00121106 you have you have the educators you have
d9e44SEJfJ8-00486-00121107-00121360 top traders people that know what
d9e44SEJfJ8-00487-00121361-00121435 they're doing
d9e44SEJfJ8-00488-00121436-00121666 sending trade alerts directly to your
d9e44SEJfJ8-00489-00121667-00121903 cell phone all you have to do is hit
d9e44SEJfJ8-00490-00121904-00122207 copy and then hit paste and press Enter
d9e44SEJfJ8-00491-00122208-00122515 like that's it there's nothing more to
d9e44SEJfJ8-00492-00122516-00122783 really say that is exactly how easy it
d9e44SEJfJ8-00493-00122783-00123109 is to take a trade on swipe trades you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00494-00123110-00123296 know people say it's like tinder like
d9e44SEJfJ8-00495-00123297-00123634 you swipe right boom I'm down I like it
d9e44SEJfJ8-00496-00123635-00123862 I swipe right I swipe left I'm not
d9e44SEJfJ8-00497-00123863-00124058 feeling it okay that's fine
d9e44SEJfJ8-00498-00124058-00124213 but these people are gonna send you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00499-00124214-00124450 trades and it's called sweat trades it's
d9e44SEJfJ8-00500-00124451-00124547 that simple
d9e44SEJfJ8-00501-00124548-00124733 you like the trade you take it you don't
d9e44SEJfJ8-00502-00124733-00124927 like it cool but if you're new and
d9e44SEJfJ8-00503-00124928-00125152 educators are giving you trades you're
d9e44SEJfJ8-00504-00125153-00125350 able to win that way you know you're
d9e44SEJfJ8-00505-00125351-00125599 able to get info that maybe you don't
d9e44SEJfJ8-00506-00125600-00125809 understand yet so they're like look I'll
d9e44SEJfJ8-00507-00125810-00126010 just give you the answers that's just
d9e44SEJfJ8-00508-00126011-00126235 one product as you can see there's a ton
d9e44SEJfJ8-00509-00126236-00126379 of products each and every one of these
d9e44SEJfJ8-00510-00126380-00126679 little boxes is a product I want to show
d9e44SEJfJ8-00511-00126680-00127009 you real quick one of our products and
d9e44SEJfJ8-00512-00127010-00127387 how amazing it is now this product is is
d9e44SEJfJ8-00513-00127388-00127622 something that when you're learning how
d9e44SEJfJ8-00514-00127623-00127873 to trade it's gonna help you it's gonna
d9e44SEJfJ8-00515-00127874-00128053 help you get those confirmations that I
d9e44SEJfJ8-00516-00128054-00128290 was talking about like you don't want to
d9e44SEJfJ8-00517-00128291-00128584 go into a trade not knowing anything all
d9e44SEJfJ8-00518-00128585-00128599 right
d9e44SEJfJ8-00519-00128600-00128812 you could get the app right now you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00520-00128813-00128962 could do that it's possible it's free
d9e44SEJfJ8-00521-00128963-00129139 you don't want to just fund your account
d9e44SEJfJ8-00522-00129140-00129436 take a trade and not know anything so
d9e44SEJfJ8-00523-00129437-00129569 this helps you have those multiple
d9e44SEJfJ8-00524-00129570-00129829 confirmations so if you look right now
d9e44SEJfJ8-00525-00129830-00130072 you have two green lines
d9e44SEJfJ8-00526-00130073-00130486 it says entry again this is a copy and
d9e44SEJfJ8-00527-00130487-00130654 paste type of app it's called the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00528-00130655-00130922 harmonic scanner it's copy and paste
d9e44SEJfJ8-00529-00130923-00131329 guys entry you copy your entry point and
d9e44SEJfJ8-00530-00131330-00131704 you paste it into your ad stop that's
d9e44SEJfJ8-00531-00131705-00131969 your stop loss you always know with
d9e44SEJfJ8-00532-00131970-00132158 every trade that you go into you always
d9e44SEJfJ8-00533-00132159-00132332 know what you're risking you get to
d9e44SEJfJ8-00534-00132333-00132593 choose what you risk if you only want to
d9e44SEJfJ8-00535-00132594-00132760 risk two dollars and make ten dollars
d9e44SEJfJ8-00536-00132761-00133094 you want to risk twenty dollars make 200
d9e44SEJfJ8-00537-00133095-00133360 dollars like it's all up to you what
d9e44SEJfJ8-00538-00133361-00133568 you're risking it's all up to you what
d9e44SEJfJ8-00539-00133569-00133593 you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00540-00133594-00133956 looking to game so you you take the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00541-00133957-00134133 entry points the numbers are given to
d9e44SEJfJ8-00542-00134134-00134298 you right here you copy and paste them
d9e44SEJfJ8-00543-00134299-00134610 you take your stop your risk you copy
d9e44SEJfJ8-00544-00134611-00134699 and paste it
d9e44SEJfJ8-00545-00134700-00135159 you take your TP 1 TP 2 TP 3 TP that's
d9e44SEJfJ8-00546-00135160-00135231 the best
d9e44SEJfJ8-00547-00135232-00135396 it stands for take profit that's what
d9e44SEJfJ8-00548-00135397-00135524 we're here to do right that's why we're
d9e44SEJfJ8-00549-00135525-00135713 on this call what we want to do is take
d9e44SEJfJ8-00550-00135714-00135887 profit and get up out of there that's
d9e44SEJfJ8-00551-00135888-00136134 what we want to do I've literally I've
d9e44SEJfJ8-00552-00136135-00136407 used this product as an extra
d9e44SEJfJ8-00553-00136408-00136628 confirmation like this thing is 80%
d9e44SEJfJ8-00554-00136629-00136824 accurate but you don't just jump in here
d9e44SEJfJ8-00555-00136825-00137039 and take a bunch of trees this is
d9e44SEJfJ8-00556-00137040-00137189 something that's gonna help you when
d9e44SEJfJ8-00557-00137190-00137385 you're learning you're using this to
d9e44SEJfJ8-00558-00137386-00137678 help you right but this thing is 80%
d9e44SEJfJ8-00559-00137679-00137943 accurate so it's like I use this as an
d9e44SEJfJ8-00560-00137944-00138212 extra confirmation I went to sleep and I
d9e44SEJfJ8-00561-00138213-00138384 woke up you know with a extra ten
d9e44SEJfJ8-00562-00138385-00138677 dollars in my account great I just made
d9e44SEJfJ8-00563-00138678-00138873 ten dollars in my sleep I'm not even at
d9e44SEJfJ8-00564-00138874-00139088 work I just went to sleep woke up and
d9e44SEJfJ8-00565-00139089-00139332 that's happened to me multiple times and
d9e44SEJfJ8-00566-00139333-00139536 guess what that's only because I was
d9e44SEJfJ8-00567-00139537-00139814 trading 10 cents at a time just learning
d9e44SEJfJ8-00568-00139815-00140184 how to use these products so once once
d9e44SEJfJ8-00569-00140185-00140351 I'm at a different point in my life
d9e44SEJfJ8-00570-00140352-00140612 right once you're on a different you're
d9e44SEJfJ8-00571-00140613-00140837 more confident with trading you might go
d9e44SEJfJ8-00572-00140838-00141029 to sleep and make a hundred dollars like
d9e44SEJfJ8-00573-00141030-00141195 where else you making money in your
d9e44SEJfJ8-00574-00141196-00141425 sleep that's how powerful this platform
d9e44SEJfJ8-00575-00141426-00141575 is that's what these products are gonna
d9e44SEJfJ8-00576-00141576-00141834 show you how to do so this harmonic
d9e44SEJfJ8-00577-00141835-00142049 scanner is just like it's just an extra
d9e44SEJfJ8-00578-00142050-00142304 tool it's your best friend to be honest
d9e44SEJfJ8-00579-00142305-00142494 in the beginning you're gonna use this a
d9e44SEJfJ8-00580-00142495-00142781 lot so get familiar look at it
d9e44SEJfJ8-00581-00142782-00143049 entry/exit take profit that's what we're
d9e44SEJfJ8-00582-00143050-00143433 all about here so we have a couple of
d9e44SEJfJ8-00583-00143434-00143649 these apps you know we have gold cup
d9e44SEJfJ8-00584-00143650-00143919 this is trade strategies very simple I'm
d9e44SEJfJ8-00585-00143920-00144198 using the thing myself this is good if
d9e44SEJfJ8-00586-00144199-00144575 you're new ok but what's very important
d9e44SEJfJ8-00587-00144576-00144873 right now is this this whole thing
d9e44SEJfJ8-00588-00144874-00145103 changed my life you're on this call
d9e44SEJfJ8-00589-00145104-00145281 wondering how this is going to change
d9e44SEJfJ8-00590-00145282-00145715 your light okay okay let's talk about it
d9e44SEJfJ8-00591-00145716-00145988 matter of fact I'm not even going to go
d9e44SEJfJ8-00592-00145989-00146232 any further I'm gonna let my brother jmo
d9e44SEJfJ8-00593-00146233-00146484 get on here and speak to y'all on how
d9e44SEJfJ8-00594-00146485-00146757 you can use this opportunity on what you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00595-00146758-00146976 have to do to join the squad
d9e44SEJfJ8-00596-00146977-00147213 get down with us because my team right
d9e44SEJfJ8-00597-00147214-00147522 now is super lit my whole team is going
d9e44SEJfJ8-00598-00147523-00147723 up and going to the top if you want to
d9e44SEJfJ8-00599-00147724-00147966 get there with us let's talk about it so
d9e44SEJfJ8-00600-00147967-00148251 I'm gonna bring my brother JMO my boy
d9e44SEJfJ8-00601-00148252-00148503 JMO he's literally in the army and he
d9e44SEJfJ8-00602-00148504-00148827 does Forex he trades like he inspires
d9e44SEJfJ8-00603-00148828-00149085 people on a regular basis on IG on
d9e44SEJfJ8-00604-00149086-00149313 YouTube like this is bigger than just
d9e44SEJfJ8-00605-00149314-00149493 trading that's why this call is deeper
d9e44SEJfJ8-00606-00149494-00149679 than Forex so what I'm gonna do is I'm
d9e44SEJfJ8-00607-00149680-00149874 gonna bring my brother JMO and I'm gonna
d9e44SEJfJ8-00608-00149875-00150150 let him show you how you can basically
d9e44SEJfJ8-00609-00150151-00150399 wane and eat off of this this wonderful
d9e44SEJfJ8-00610-00150400-00150618 opportunity that was given to me you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00611-00150619-00150801 know back in September to absolutely
d9e44SEJfJ8-00612-00150802-00150957 change everything in my life
d9e44SEJfJ8-00613-00150958-00151176 so everybody dropped some fires for JMO
d9e44SEJfJ8-00614-00151177-00151368 I'm gonna figure out what I got to do
d9e44SEJfJ8-00615-00151369-00151524 right here to unmute him and make sure
d9e44SEJfJ8-00616-00151525-00151779 he's good to go and let him become the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00617-00151780-00152070 host but yeah we're uh we're about to
d9e44SEJfJ8-00618-00152071-00152340 turn up with JMO shout out the JMO drop
d9e44SEJfJ8-00619-00152341-00152547 some fires for JMO that's my bro he's
d9e44SEJfJ8-00620-00152548-00152694 always supported me always looking out
d9e44SEJfJ8-00621-00152695-00153125 for me and give me one second yeah I
d9e44SEJfJ8-00622-00153126-00153555 mean you could stay the host out here
d9e44SEJfJ8-00623-00153556-00153900 y'all don't panic no it was good
d9e44SEJfJ8-00624-00153901-00154071 everybody so look if you guys can hear
d9e44SEJfJ8-00625-00154072-00154332 me and see me clearly if you guys can
d9e44SEJfJ8-00626-00154333-00154596 see everything drop some fire emojis let
d9e44SEJfJ8-00627-00154597-00154758 us know keep them firing mojo is going I
d9e44SEJfJ8-00628-00154759-00154884 want to see those fired motors papa
d9e44SEJfJ8-00629-00154885-00155085 before I start moving forward with you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00630-00155086-00155262 guys cuz this is gonna be a very
d9e44SEJfJ8-00631-00155263-00155447 important a very important segment
d9e44SEJfJ8-00632-00155448-00155709 alright so we got the fire emojis going
d9e44SEJfJ8-00633-00155710-00155919 so I wanna let you guys get to know a
d9e44SEJfJ8-00634-00155920-00156087 little bit about me before we get to the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00635-00156088-00156321 next slide so my background in history I
d9e44SEJfJ8-00636-00156322-00156519 went to school I actually graduated from
d9e44SEJfJ8-00637-00156520-00156681 college with a degree in graphic design
d9e44SEJfJ8-00638-00156682-00156831 and visual commissioned visual
d9e44SEJfJ8-00639-00156832-00156969 communications with a minor in marketing
d9e44SEJfJ8-00640-00156970-00157251 so I took the school route straight out
d9e44SEJfJ8-00641-00157252-00157389 of high school but I've always been a
d9e44SEJfJ8-00642-00157390-00157839 serial or always wanted financial
d9e44SEJfJ8-00643-00157840-00157989 freedom always wanted more for myself
d9e44SEJfJ8-00644-00157990-00158184 always been a hard worker and I always
d9e44SEJfJ8-00645-00158185-00158325 wanted to just do the things that most
d9e44SEJfJ8-00646-00158326-00158484 people couldn't do I want to travel I
d9e44SEJfJ8-00647-00158485-00158643 want to make money with my friends I
d9e44SEJfJ8-00648-00158644-00158787 wanted to explore the world you know
d9e44SEJfJ8-00649-00158788-00159069 what I mean and a part of that is going
d9e44SEJfJ8-00650-00159070-00159276 into my entrepreneurial journey I came
d9e44SEJfJ8-00651-00159277-00159504 across this opportunity because I was
d9e44SEJfJ8-00652-00159505-00159777 always on the hunt for the next big
d9e44SEJfJ8-00653-00159778-00159972 thing I was always on a hunt to find out
d9e44SEJfJ8-00654-00159973-00160194 how I could make residual income I was
d9e44SEJfJ8-00655-00160195-00160332 always trying to figure out how can I
d9e44SEJfJ8-00656-00160333-00160521 get to this financial freedom you know I
d9e44SEJfJ8-00657-00160522-00160746 try graphic design I try photography I
d9e44SEJfJ8-00658-00160747-00160956 try going to school I worked in a music
d9e44SEJfJ8-00659-00160957-00161142 industry I connected with some big
d9e44SEJfJ8-00660-00161143-00161307 artists probably one of your favorite
d9e44SEJfJ8-00661-00161308-00161544 artists and I did and Diplo and Evelyn
d9e44SEJfJ8-00662-00161545-00161667 and a lot of different things and I was
d9e44SEJfJ8-00663-00161668-00161718 a city girl
d9e44SEJfJ8-00664-00161719-00161925 entrepreneur and all that that was great
d9e44SEJfJ8-00665-00161926-00162090 and I'm not gonna say that I failed at
d9e44SEJfJ8-00666-00162091-00162240 any of those things I actually did great
d9e44SEJfJ8-00667-00162241-00162486 and all of those things but these things
d9e44SEJfJ8-00668-00162487-00162705 did not bring me financial freedom these
d9e44SEJfJ8-00669-00162706-00162930 things did not make me money while I was
d9e44SEJfJ8-00670-00162931-00163122 sleep it didn't help me elevate the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00671-00163123-00163338 empire that I'm trying to build what I
d9e44SEJfJ8-00672-00163339-00163797 was doing was I was back it's the almost
d9e44SEJfJ8-00673-00163798-00163959 doing like what I was only the 95 job I
d9e44SEJfJ8-00674-00163960-00164103 was training my time for money I was
d9e44SEJfJ8-00675-00164104-00164250 hustling from check to check to check
d9e44SEJfJ8-00676-00164251-00164436 and get to get the gig instead of being
d9e44SEJfJ8-00677-00164437-00164646 at a job getting a check every Friday I
d9e44SEJfJ8-00678-00164647-00164856 was getting the gig or assignment every
d9e44SEJfJ8-00679-00164857-00165009 Friday but it was essentially the same
d9e44SEJfJ8-00680-00165010-00165210 thing so I needed to make a shift and I
d9e44SEJfJ8-00681-00165211-00165390 needed to make a change and I came
d9e44SEJfJ8-00682-00165391-00165687 across this opportunity from my hunt to
d9e44SEJfJ8-00683-00165688-00165834 try to figure out what was going on the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00684-00165835-00166041 main reason why I hop on this is because
d9e44SEJfJ8-00685-00166042-00166263 this is an opportunity where you can do
d9e44SEJfJ8-00686-00166264-00166578 this if you have a job you can do this
d9e44SEJfJ8-00687-00166579-00166755 if you have another hustle another
d9e44SEJfJ8-00688-00166756-00167022 entrepreneurship you can do this if you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00689-00167023-00167265 have a family you can do this if you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00690-00167266-00167502 have a a big schedule a big opening in
d9e44SEJfJ8-00691-00167503-00167679 your schedule or a small opening in your
d9e44SEJfJ8-00692-00167680-00167886 schedule this is very flexible you can
d9e44SEJfJ8-00693-00167887-00168200 do this on the move you can do this on
d9e44SEJfJ8-00694-00168201-00168429 the beach you know what I'm saying you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00695-00168430-00168660 can do this on vacation the thing that I
d9e44SEJfJ8-00696-00168661-00168837 like most about this company is it's so
d9e44SEJfJ8-00697-00168838-00169056 flexible we actually learn on your phone
d9e44SEJfJ8-00698-00169057-00169290 you can trade on your phone and you can
d9e44SEJfJ8-00699-00169291-00169716 do everything at your leisure oh we're
d9e44SEJfJ8-00700-00169717-00169866 gonna go ahead and get to the next slide
d9e44SEJfJ8-00701-00169867-00169983 because the biggest thing that what
d9e44SEJfJ8-00702-00169984-00170145 people want to know is how much does
d9e44SEJfJ8-00703-00170146-00170304 this stuff cost what is it gonna cost me
d9e44SEJfJ8-00704-00170305-00170448 that should get into this business
d9e44SEJfJ8-00705-00170449-00170634 actually get involved and start
d9e44SEJfJ8-00706-00170635-00170820 investing and I want to let you guys
d9e44SEJfJ8-00707-00170821-00171039 know as multiple options that you can do
d9e44SEJfJ8-00708-00171040-00171252 with this company but at the very
d9e44SEJfJ8-00709-00171253-00171477 simplest form we have our base package
d9e44SEJfJ8-00710-00171478-00171768 which is to 3495 you play that upfront
d9e44SEJfJ8-00711-00171769-00172038 once again that's to 3495 that you pay
d9e44SEJfJ8-00712-00172039-00172266 upfront and then after that monthly you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00713-00172267-00172524 pay 170 for a lot of people want to know
d9e44SEJfJ8-00714-00172525-00172686 what am I paying for why do I have to
d9e44SEJfJ8-00715-00172687-00172839 pay monthly fitters so we're gonna go
d9e44SEJfJ8-00716-00172840-00172992 ahead and get into that you pay your
d9e44SEJfJ8-00717-00172993-00173145 initial to be a part of the business to
d9e44SEJfJ8-00718-00173146-00173325 get started and to get all of the tools
d9e44SEJfJ8-00719-00173326-00173547 that Ray talked about earlier but the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00720-00173548-00173721 monthly is to have access to the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00721-00173722-00173883 Learning Academy and the tools that we
d9e44SEJfJ8-00722-00173884-00174063 provide for you to be successful you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00723-00174064-00174297 this is gonna be an ongoing thing I know
d9e44SEJfJ8-00724-00174298-00174477 a lot of you guys are never you know
d9e44SEJfJ8-00725-00174478-00174641 maybe have been a part of something like
d9e44SEJfJ8-00726-00174642-00174861 this but i'ma let you know this is this
d9e44SEJfJ8-00727-00174862-00175004 is gonna be a ongoing learning
d9e44SEJfJ8-00728-00175005-00175206 experience it's not gonna be something
d9e44SEJfJ8-00729-00175207-00175389 to where you just learn real quick and
d9e44SEJfJ8-00730-00175390-00175853 then you get it in and you manias
d9e44SEJfJ8-00731-00175854-00175964 dollars I don't work was gonna be a
d9e44SEJfJ8-00732-00175965-00176196 ever-evolving journey in your learning
d9e44SEJfJ8-00733-00176197-00176378 and your learning experience in your
d9e44SEJfJ8-00734-00176379-00176589 entrepreneur experience so our Academy
d9e44SEJfJ8-00735-00176590-00176741 gets updated all the time with new
d9e44SEJfJ8-00736-00176742-00176891 classes and new pieces of information
d9e44SEJfJ8-00737-00176892-00177087 when the market changes when their
d9e44SEJfJ8-00738-00177088-00177270 shifts in the market we get updates on
d9e44SEJfJ8-00739-00177271-00177543 everything also you have options to look
d9e44SEJfJ8-00740-00177544-00177768 at instructors live like Ray told you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00741-00177769-00177965 guys earlier these instructors get on
d9e44SEJfJ8-00742-00177966-00178253 here and literally sit with you they sit
d9e44SEJfJ8-00743-00178254-00178485 with you and show you how to trade one
d9e44SEJfJ8-00744-00178486-00178565 step at a time
d9e44SEJfJ8-00745-00178566-00178743 and they make sure that you understand
d9e44SEJfJ8-00746-00178744-00178884 it what other market and what other
d9e44SEJfJ8-00747-00178885-00179085 industry can you sit with six-figure
d9e44SEJfJ8-00748-00179086-00179277 earners and they literally walk you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00749-00179278-00179528 through what they do as a trader you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00750-00179529-00179709 can't you can't buy that nowhere you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00751-00179710-00179913 know I mean so that is a something that
d9e44SEJfJ8-00752-00179914-00180084 comes into the package we also have the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00753-00180085-00180381 elite package which is 230 495 and this
d9e44SEJfJ8-00754-00180382-00180566 just comes with more tools to help you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00755-00180567-00180740 guys elevate yourself and elevate your
d9e44SEJfJ8-00756-00180741-00181020 income it comes with that HFS Academy
d9e44SEJfJ8-00757-00181021-00181178 which is another tool that we have
d9e44SEJfJ8-00758-00181179-00181410 that's just like we call it in the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00759-00181411-00181593 military high-speed you know it's
d9e44SEJfJ8-00760-00181594-00181923 different tools that help you guys
d9e44SEJfJ8-00761-00181924-00182151 amplify your learning experience and
d9e44SEJfJ8-00762-00182152-00182334 there's basically different apps and
d9e44SEJfJ8-00763-00182335-00182448 different things that we have for you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00764-00182449-00182631 guys to work with in the business is
d9e44SEJfJ8-00765-00182632-00182814 levels to this you know what I mean so
d9e44SEJfJ8-00766-00182815-00182982 if you guys decide you want to go all-in
d9e44SEJfJ8-00767-00182983-00183164 you want to get all of the tools and you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00768-00183165-00183321 want to get all of the access so
d9e44SEJfJ8-00769-00183322-00183459 everything that we have to bring to the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00770-00183460-00183651 table that's what the elite package do
d9e44SEJfJ8-00771-00183652-00183777 for you go ahead and go to the next
d9e44SEJfJ8-00772-00183778-00184100 slide
d9e44SEJfJ8-00773-00184101-00184346 all right so even with that being said
d9e44SEJfJ8-00774-00184347-00184537 we actually have a option for you guys
d9e44SEJfJ8-00775-00184538-00184748 to get this service for free and this is
d9e44SEJfJ8-00776-00184749-00184879 one of the greatest parts about the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00777-00184880-00185006 business and this is what I like about
d9e44SEJfJ8-00778-00185007-00185183 the business personally because they
d9e44SEJfJ8-00779-00185184-00185432 actually offer you to get their business
d9e44SEJfJ8-00780-00185433-00185624 for free and also make a residual income
d9e44SEJfJ8-00781-00185625-00185812 from the business so yes you are paying
d9e44SEJfJ8-00782-00185813-00186064 for it monthly but outside of trading
d9e44SEJfJ8-00783-00186065-00186275 they give you the option to bring people
d9e44SEJfJ8-00784-00186276-00186487 into the business and actually grow your
d9e44SEJfJ8-00785-00186488-00186650 business and actually make money from
d9e44SEJfJ8-00786-00186651-00186809 bringing your friends and family into
d9e44SEJfJ8-00787-00186810-00187025 the team I know everybody on this call
d9e44SEJfJ8-00788-00187026-00187204 right now has a friend or a family
d9e44SEJfJ8-00789-00187205-00187382 member that's interested in investing
d9e44SEJfJ8-00790-00187383-00187744 they've been looking for something like
d9e44SEJfJ8-00791-00187745-00187997 you can literally let them know about
d9e44SEJfJ8-00792-00187998-00188144 the opportunity bring them in and now
d9e44SEJfJ8-00793-00188145-00188336 you're getting it for free so - and free
d9e44SEJfJ8-00794-00188337-00188495 is one of the greatest pieces of this
d9e44SEJfJ8-00795-00188496-00188648 business it allows you to come in and
d9e44SEJfJ8-00796-00188649-00188771 save some money and put that money in
d9e44SEJfJ8-00797-00188772-00188945 your pocket to actually reinvest it back
d9e44SEJfJ8-00798-00188946-00189187 into training so you actually all have
d9e44SEJfJ8-00799-00189188-00189412 the access to get this service for free
d9e44SEJfJ8-00800-00189413-00189593 and still have access to the Learning
d9e44SEJfJ8-00801-00189594-00189754 Academy and still have access to the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00802-00189755-00190012 goal I still have access to the apps and
d9e44SEJfJ8-00803-00190013-00190235 everything else by just telling a friend
d9e44SEJfJ8-00804-00190236-00190387 or a family member you guys really think
d9e44SEJfJ8-00805-00190388-00190646 about it we refer people to businesses
d9e44SEJfJ8-00806-00190647-00190931 all the time and get nothing for do you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00807-00190932-00191171 guys hear me but I if it's something
d9e44SEJfJ8-00808-00191172-00191375 that you like I'm gonna use a Starbucks
d9e44SEJfJ8-00809-00191376-00191527 example let's say you come up with a new
d9e44SEJfJ8-00810-00191528-00191803 Frappuccino like a new new flavor you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00811-00191804-00191977 created it you feel like it's amazing
d9e44SEJfJ8-00812-00191978-00192125 you don't go tell 10 of your friends to
d9e44SEJfJ8-00813-00192126-00192347 go try this new caramel caramel dip
d9e44SEJfJ8-00814-00192348-00192518 frappe chocolate drip whatever you want
d9e44SEJfJ8-00815-00192519-00192715 to call it I made it up I feel like it's
d9e44SEJfJ8-00816-00192716-00192899 dope I love it and I'm until telling my
d9e44SEJfJ8-00817-00192900-00193106 friends that come try now you got ten of
d9e44SEJfJ8-00818-00193107-00193268 your friends that came to Starbucks and
d9e44SEJfJ8-00819-00193269-00193496 now they buy a frappuccinos they bran
d9e44SEJfJ8-00820-00193497-00193900 buying cookies they buy looks you spend
d9e44SEJfJ8-00821-00193901-00194147 time here you guys on the Wi-Fi but what
d9e44SEJfJ8-00822-00194148-00194294 did you get for that you got nothing you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00823-00194295-00194462 just gotta experience that's all you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00824-00194463-00194657 guys got so we refer people to
d9e44SEJfJ8-00825-00194658-00194803 businesses you know thumbs in for the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00826-00194804-00194936 most part you get nothing for this
d9e44SEJfJ8-00827-00194937-00195091 business you actually get paid you get a
d9e44SEJfJ8-00828-00195092-00195260 residual income and it's something that
d9e44SEJfJ8-00829-00195261-00195518 you guys are doing anyway so go ahead go
d9e44SEJfJ8-00830-00195519-00195809 to the next line all right so when it
d9e44SEJfJ8-00831-00195810-00195952 comes to being an IBO this is an
d9e44SEJfJ8-00832-00195953-00196102 independent business owner this is what
d9e44SEJfJ8-00833-00196103-00196291 I am this will ray-ray is we actually
d9e44SEJfJ8-00834-00196292-00196540 get paid from building our team you know
d9e44SEJfJ8-00835-00196541-00196753 I'm saying the trading aspect is an
d9e44SEJfJ8-00836-00196754-00197009 amazing aspect of this business but they
d9e44SEJfJ8-00837-00197010-00197263 actually doing a whole nother option for
d9e44SEJfJ8-00838-00197264-00197433 you to get a whole nother back
d9e44SEJfJ8-00839-00197434-00197658 tradin is awesome but we're actually
d9e44SEJfJ8-00840-00197659-00197852 getting paid to refer people to the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00841-00197853-00198108 business to coach to mentor and to build
d9e44SEJfJ8-00842-00198109-00198324 people which is a beautiful thing so if
d9e44SEJfJ8-00843-00198325-00198471 you look at this we have a ranking
d9e44SEJfJ8-00844-00198472-00198720 system and the goal is always to rank up
d9e44SEJfJ8-00845-00198721-00198989 ranking up is one of the primary things
d9e44SEJfJ8-00846-00198990-00199206 when it comes to team building that
d9e44SEJfJ8-00847-00199207-00199410 keeps us motivated so the first one is
d9e44SEJfJ8-00848-00199411-00199616 Platinum 150 when you refer three people
d9e44SEJfJ8-00849-00199617-00199884 to the business you can actually have
d9e44SEJfJ8-00850-00199885-00200118 the option to get $150 a month okay
d9e44SEJfJ8-00851-00200119-00200322 weekly once again this is a whole nother
d9e44SEJfJ8-00852-00200323-00200574 bag trading you can make unlimited money
d9e44SEJfJ8-00853-00200575-00200745 with trading this is a whole nother
d9e44SEJfJ8-00854-00200746-00200876 opportunity for you to take full
d9e44SEJfJ8-00855-00200877-00201104 advantage of this is not requirement but
d9e44SEJfJ8-00856-00201105-00201258 this is definitely an option for you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00857-00201259-00201513 guys the next rank up is platinum 600
d9e44SEJfJ8-00858-00201514-00201726 that's when you bring 12 people into
d9e44SEJfJ8-00859-00201727-00201991 your organization you make $600 a month
d9e44SEJfJ8-00860-00201992-00202236 $150 a week and the next one up is
d9e44SEJfJ8-00861-00202237-00202410 platinum 1000 I'm gonna let you guys
d9e44SEJfJ8-00862-00202411-00202650 know the coolest thing that I feel about
d9e44SEJfJ8-00863-00202651-00202916 this operation you can bring people in
d9e44SEJfJ8-00864-00202917-00203232 yourself right but when it comes to
d9e44SEJfJ8-00865-00203233-00203469 building up your team and getting to
d9e44SEJfJ8-00866-00203470-00203601 these three people in these 12 people
d9e44SEJfJ8-00867-00203602-00203838 and more people in your organization
d9e44SEJfJ8-00868-00203839-00204087 when other people bring in people inside
d9e44SEJfJ8-00869-00204088-00204288 your organization that counts for you as
d9e44SEJfJ8-00870-00204289-00204531 well so this is not all your work is his
d9e44SEJfJ8-00871-00204532-00204720 team work if you bring somebody in your
d9e44SEJfJ8-00872-00204721-00204855 business and they're enthusiastic about
d9e44SEJfJ8-00873-00204856-00205071 being an influencer if they want to be a
d9e44SEJfJ8-00874-00205071-00205214 leader in the company in the business
d9e44SEJfJ8-00875-00205215-00205373 and bring in hundreds of people guess
d9e44SEJfJ8-00876-00205375-00205637 what that all goes under you and you get
d9e44SEJfJ8-00877-00205638-00205994 the opportunity and build your business
d9e44SEJfJ8-00878-00205996-00206253 through that even deeper guess what you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00879-00206254-00206396 also have the option for the people
d9e44SEJfJ8-00880-00206398-00206628 above you to assign you people as well
d9e44SEJfJ8-00881-00206629-00206850 your mentorship and your leadership can
d9e44SEJfJ8-00882-00206851-00207062 actually put people on a team for you so
d9e44SEJfJ8-00883-00207063-00207294 you're not working by yourself this is
d9e44SEJfJ8-00884-00207294-00207494 not all you you know I mean you're gonna
d9e44SEJfJ8-00885-00207496-00207644 have a team you wanna have people below
d9e44SEJfJ8-00886-00207646-00207780 you and above you that's gonna help
d9e44SEJfJ8-00887-00207781-00208026 elevate you to the next level go to the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00888-00208027-00208406 next slide
d9e44SEJfJ8-00889-00208407-00208641 all right so we also have bonuses
d9e44SEJfJ8-00890-00208642-00208823 available when you guys get people
d9e44SEJfJ8-00891-00208825-00209076 signed up you do get bonuses for each
d9e44SEJfJ8-00892-00209077-00209241 person that you bring in so that's
d9e44SEJfJ8-00893-00209242-00209463 another Avenue income and the last thing
d9e44SEJfJ8-00894-00209464-00209648 I want to go over is just a full ranking
d9e44SEJfJ8-00895-00209650-00209781 system I'm gonna tell you this is what
d9e44SEJfJ8-00896-00209782-00210017 keeps me motivated right cuz I'm at the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00897-00210019-00210198 Platinum level right now you know I'm
d9e44SEJfJ8-00898-00210198-00210387 working my way up the ladder and I'm
d9e44SEJfJ8-00899-00210388-00210561 becoming successful in the business and
d9e44SEJfJ8-00900-00210562-00210741 if you see me on social media every time
d9e44SEJfJ8-00901-00210742-00210987 we rank up we do a big celebration so if
d9e44SEJfJ8-00902-00210988-00211148 you look up to the Chairman level
d9e44SEJfJ8-00903-00211150-00211350 chairman is the goal this is just
d9e44SEJfJ8-00904-00211351-00211590 personally for me a lot of people in the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00905-00211591-00211991 business you want to get to chairman to
d9e44SEJfJ8-00906-00211992-00212271 chairman it's a big shift that's what
d9e44SEJfJ8-00907-00212271-00212400 you showcase yourself as a leader in a
d9e44SEJfJ8-00908-00212401-00212546 business that's like life-changing money
d9e44SEJfJ8-00909-00212548-00212850 you know I mean 2500 2500 weekly
d9e44SEJfJ8-00910-00212851-00213044 residuals for chairmen 10 that's the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00911-00213046-00213276 first level of chairmen that money can
d9e44SEJfJ8-00912-00213277-00213459 make a complete shift in your entire
d9e44SEJfJ8-00913-00213460-00213623 life that can make you a full-time
d9e44SEJfJ8-00914-00213625-00213867 entrepreneur that can put you on tour to
d9e44SEJfJ8-00915-00213867-00214067 go and talk to people about Forex all
d9e44SEJfJ8-00916-00214069-00214244 over the country full time and that's
d9e44SEJfJ8-00917-00214246-00214479 what I want to do so I want you guys to
d9e44SEJfJ8-00918-00214480-00214662 look at these ranks you guys let me know
d9e44SEJfJ8-00919-00214663-00214851 what rank you guys shooting for if
d9e44SEJfJ8-00920-00214852-00214983 you're looking to get into this business
d9e44SEJfJ8-00921-00214984-00215139 today I want to know what rank you are
d9e44SEJfJ8-00922-00215140-00215301 looking to get what do you want to touch
d9e44SEJfJ8-00923-00215302-00215466 what amount of money that you want to do
d9e44SEJfJ8-00924-00215467-00215646 you want to touch because everything one
d9e44SEJfJ8-00925-00215646-00215892 here is reachable every everything over
d9e44SEJfJ8-00926-00215892-00216054 here is reachable I know people
d9e44SEJfJ8-00927-00216055-00216269 personally that's hit the chairman 250
d9e44SEJfJ8-00928-00216271-00216510 treadmill 100 chairman 5000 we actually
d9e44SEJfJ8-00929-00216511-00216719 have access to these people these people
d9e44SEJfJ8-00930-00216721-00216896 talk to us on social media these people
d9e44SEJfJ8-00931-00216898-00217098 talk to us on calls so I want to know
d9e44SEJfJ8-00932-00217098-00217389 right now by AP you guys see - uh can
d9e44SEJfJ8-00933-00217390-00217517 you guys see a chart I want to let I
d9e44SEJfJ8-00934-00217519-00217748 want to know what rank do you guys want
d9e44SEJfJ8-00935-00217750-00218034 to hit what amount of money are you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00936-00218035-00218238 looking to get from this business I want
d9e44SEJfJ8-00937-00218239-00218621 to know you guys wait and drop it so
d9e44SEJfJ8-00938-00218623-00218811 nobody wants to hit any ranks ok
d9e44SEJfJ8-00939-00218812-00218996 chairman Tim there we go I want to see
d9e44SEJfJ8-00940-00218998-00219119 it what do you what do you guys see we
d9e44SEJfJ8-00941-00219121-00219252 got a bunch of people in here somebody
d9e44SEJfJ8-00942-00219253-00219576 wants to hear Chapman 5,000 I mean 5 500
d9e44SEJfJ8-00943-00219577-00219819 somebody wants to get that big money we
d9e44SEJfJ8-00944-00219819-00219960 all shooting for the top here we're
d9e44SEJfJ8-00945-00219961-00220134 gonna actually force you guys to be
d9e44SEJfJ8-00946-00220135-00220302 great within this business they don't
d9e44SEJfJ8-00947-00220303-00220440 force you guys to get outside of your
d9e44SEJfJ8-00948-00220441-00220619 comfort zone and we're gonna force you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00949-00220621-00220803 guys to make the most out of this
d9e44SEJfJ8-00950-00220804-00221076 situation and get to the highest ranks
d9e44SEJfJ8-00951-00221077-00221271 that you can possibly get in it so I
d9e44SEJfJ8-00952-00221271-00221460 want to just go over the price and let
d9e44SEJfJ8-00953-00221461-00221621 you guys know how much your stuff cost
d9e44SEJfJ8-00954-00221623-00221739 what type in bed
d9e44SEJfJ8-00955-00221740-00221907 I'm gonna go over one one thing right
d9e44SEJfJ8-00956-00221908-00222066 now so if you're on this call still you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00957-00222067-00222216 guys still with me I'm gonna go ahead
d9e44SEJfJ8-00958-00222217-00222366 and wrap up I just want to let you know
d9e44SEJfJ8-00959-00222367-00222555 we got two people we got two types of
d9e44SEJfJ8-00960-00222556-00222741 people on this call and I want to know
d9e44SEJfJ8-00961-00222742-00222900 what type of person you are
d9e44SEJfJ8-00962-00222901-00223110 so we have the people who have the money
d9e44SEJfJ8-00963-00223111-00223332 and we have the people that don't have
d9e44SEJfJ8-00964-00223333-00223479 the money and I'm going to speak to you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00965-00223480-00223619 both if you feel like this is an
d9e44SEJfJ8-00966-00223621-00223911 investment and you're interested you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00967-00223912-00224211 don't have the money that's okay there's
d9e44SEJfJ8-00968-00224212-00224321 just a couple of things that you have to
d9e44SEJfJ8-00969-00224323-00224442 work on at this moment you have to work
d9e44SEJfJ8-00970-00224442-00224601 on your personal finances you have to
d9e44SEJfJ8-00971-00224602-00224721 work when your savings you have to work
d9e44SEJfJ8-00972-00224721-00224925 on your debt it's a certain level you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00973-00224926-00225114 have to be to become an investor you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00974-00225115-00225282 can't just hop into being an investor
d9e44SEJfJ8-00975-00225283-00225477 certain baby steps you have to take you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00976-00225478-00225636 have to make sure your personal finances
d9e44SEJfJ8-00977-00225637-00225807 is taken care of and organized that's
d9e44SEJfJ8-00978-00225808-00225933 something that we care about that's
d9e44SEJfJ8-00979-00225934-00226089 something that we want you to do so if
d9e44SEJfJ8-00980-00226090-00226179 you're interested in this opportunity
d9e44SEJfJ8-00981-00226180-00226356 and you're one of those people like man
d9e44SEJfJ8-00982-00226357-00226617 I don't have money stay logged in stay
d9e44SEJfJ8-00983-00226617-00226782 logged into the person that brought you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00984-00226783-00226935 to this business stay connected with
d9e44SEJfJ8-00985-00226936-00227103 them check out their lives check out the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00986-00227104-00227280 Instagram so check out their Facebook
d9e44SEJfJ8-00987-00227281-00227487 check out whatever it is that you've
d9e44SEJfJ8-00988-00227488-00227673 been checking out to keep you integrated
d9e44SEJfJ8-00989-00227673-00227805 in the business because you can still
d9e44SEJfJ8-00990-00227806-00228000 learn you can still stay in the loop and
d9e44SEJfJ8-00991-00228001-00228221 when you are ready we will be ready for
d9e44SEJfJ8-00992-00228223-00228381 you so that's are the people who are
d9e44SEJfJ8-00993-00228382-00228579 interested and the people who don't have
d9e44SEJfJ8-00994-00228580-00228750 the money you know make sure you take
d9e44SEJfJ8-00995-00228751-00228896 care of your finances do what you need
d9e44SEJfJ8-00996-00228898-00229080 to do and take the baby steps that you
d9e44SEJfJ8-00997-00229081-00229266 need to take before you make the leap
d9e44SEJfJ8-00998-00229267-00229485 and become an investor then we got the
d9e44SEJfJ8-00999-00229486-00229689 people that do have the money if you do
d9e44SEJfJ8-01000-00229690-00230091 have the money you're either go if
d9e44SEJfJ8-01001-00230092-00230217 you're ready to go we're gonna go and
d9e44SEJfJ8-01002-00230217-00230340 get you started right after this call
d9e44SEJfJ8-01003-00230341-00230492 you know keep that fire going reach out
d9e44SEJfJ8-01004-00230494-00230667 to whoever invited you to this video to
d9e44SEJfJ8-01005-00230667-00230873 this live and go and let them know say
d9e44SEJfJ8-01006-00230875-00231039 hey I'm ready you know tell them thank
d9e44SEJfJ8-01007-00231040-00231219 you first for inviting you but let them
d9e44SEJfJ8-01008-00231219-00231381 know that you're ready and then for the
d9e44SEJfJ8-01009-00231382-00231552 people that have the money that are
d9e44SEJfJ8-01010-00231553-00231767 still on the fence and don't know it's
d9e44SEJfJ8-01011-00231769-00231992 because you don't see the value it's
d9e44SEJfJ8-01012-00231994-00232134 because you don't see the value because
d9e44SEJfJ8-01013-00232135-00232302 it makes sense if you want to become an
d9e44SEJfJ8-01014-00232303-00232473 investor and you have money it makes it
d9e44SEJfJ8-01015-00232473-00232629 you can make a residual income you can
d9e44SEJfJ8-01016-00232630-00232803 make an active income you can work from
d9e44SEJfJ8-01017-00232804-00233115 home it's flexible you have a Learning
d9e44SEJfJ8-01018-00233116-00233358 Academy you have mentorship you have a
d9e44SEJfJ8-01019-00233359-00233655 team you have all types of resources and
d9e44SEJfJ8-01020-00233656-00233867 it's a lifelong journey where you can
d9e44SEJfJ8-01021-00233869-00234071 make money forever for anybody who has
d9e44SEJfJ8-01022-00234073-00234216 money that's an investor in a sideman
d9e44SEJfJ8-01023-00234217-00234467 that's all I need so if you don't see
d9e44SEJfJ8-01024-00234469-00234675 the value in that you definitely need to
d9e44SEJfJ8-01025-00234676-00234896 still reach out to whom who invited you
d9e44SEJfJ8-01026-00234898-00235067 to this business and we need to have
d9e44SEJfJ8-01027-00235069-00235113 another
d9e44SEJfJ8-01028-00235114-00235298 conversation because at the end of the
d9e44SEJfJ8-01029-00235300-00235533 day there's so much so many tools in
d9e44SEJfJ8-01030-00235534-00235716 here for you guys to win we made it
d9e44SEJfJ8-01031-00235717-00236109 simple for you guys to go go ahead and
d9e44SEJfJ8-01032-00236110-00236286 hop in this industry and start making
d9e44SEJfJ8-01033-00236287-00236406 money immediately you can literally copy
d9e44SEJfJ8-01034-00236407-00236631 and paste the profits we have tools
d9e44SEJfJ8-01035-00236632-00236763 where you can copy and paste the profits
d9e44SEJfJ8-01036-00236764-00236946 and also just to get back to the the
d9e44SEJfJ8-01037-00236946-00237138 highlight of this whole thing is deeper
d9e44SEJfJ8-01038-00237139-00237327 than Forex we are all on a
d9e44SEJfJ8-01039-00237328-00237480 self-development journey to get better
d9e44SEJfJ8-01040-00237481-00237762 as people it starts here first it starts
d9e44SEJfJ8-01041-00237763-00237894 who you are as a person
d9e44SEJfJ8-01042-00237894-00238092 to grow to grow your spirit and to
d9e44SEJfJ8-01043-00238092-00238311 manifest greatness and when we work on
d9e44SEJfJ8-01044-00238312-00238500 is this right here when me and Ray are
d9e44SEJfJ8-01045-00238501-00238686 working on right now is this right here
d9e44SEJfJ8-01046-00238687-00238830 we're getting outside of our comfort
d9e44SEJfJ8-01047-00238831-00238992 zone we're presenting the business to
d9e44SEJfJ8-01048-00238992-00239157 you guys we're becoming experts in the
d9e44SEJfJ8-01049-00239158-00239346 field this is why you're gonna see us as
d9e44SEJfJ8-01050-00239346-00239535 chairman because we decided to step up
d9e44SEJfJ8-01051-00239536-00239832 and move forward and being great in this
d9e44SEJfJ8-01052-00239833-00239988 business and get out of our comfort zone
d9e44SEJfJ8-01053-00239989-00240183 and get uncomfortable and push forward
d9e44SEJfJ8-01054-00240184-00240450 to be you know that to have the Chairman
d9e44SEJfJ8-01055-00240451-00240648 mindset in his business so once again
d9e44SEJfJ8-01056-00240648-00240825 I'm gonna go ahead and pass it back to
d9e44SEJfJ8-01057-00240826-00241077 Ray and you know he's gonna wrap up this
d9e44SEJfJ8-01058-00241078-00241200 call but once again if you don't have
d9e44SEJfJ8-01059-00241201-00241425 the money make sure you do what you need
d9e44SEJfJ8-01060-00241426-00241608 to do to become a better I get that
d9e44SEJfJ8-01061-00241609-00241716 investor mindset
d9e44SEJfJ8-01062-00241717-00242133 take care of your desk take care and
d9e44SEJfJ8-01063-00242134-00242334 make sure you come in strong if you do
d9e44SEJfJ8-01064-00242335-00242454 have the money go ahead and get started
d9e44SEJfJ8-01065-00242455-00242696 or see the value see the value it's
d9e44SEJfJ8-01066-00242698-00242817 unlimited value in this optical
d9e44SEJfJ8-01067-00242817-00243036 operation in this Forex opportunity and
d9e44SEJfJ8-01068-00243037-00243194 I want to shoot that guys I want you
d9e44SEJfJ8-01069-00243196-00243387 guys all you know had that chairman
d9e44SEJfJ8-01070-00243388-00243615 mindset when you come in so I appreciate
d9e44SEJfJ8-01071-00243616-00243804 you guys having me on here and giving
d9e44SEJfJ8-01072-00243805-00243981 you guys all this information I'm gonna
d9e44SEJfJ8-01073-00243982-00244173 go and pass it back to Ray's I'll wrap
d9e44SEJfJ8-01074-00244173-00244530 it up in conclude this quo
d9e44SEJfJ8-01075-00244531-00244964 yo a pop some files from my bro Jayma
d9e44SEJfJ8-01076-00244965-00245155 once again I always tell people to dry
d9e44SEJfJ8-01077-00245156-00245303 fire cuz he comes through and he keeps
d9e44SEJfJ8-01078-00245304-00245482 it real it keeps a genuine and I
d9e44SEJfJ8-01079-00245483-00245710 appreciate that that that right there is
d9e44SEJfJ8-01080-00245711-00245998 fire to me this my bro he's been in
d9e44SEJfJ8-01081-00246000-00246230 Korea in the army and he's been trading
d9e44SEJfJ8-01082-00246231-00246355 he's been learning he's been building
d9e44SEJfJ8-01083-00246356-00246614 his business in the army like in Korea
d9e44SEJfJ8-01084-00246615-00246955 so that right there shows me you know
d9e44SEJfJ8-01085-00246956-00247148 and we talk about leveling up over here
d9e44SEJfJ8-01086-00247148-00247328 and we talk about building my sadness
d9e44SEJfJ8-01087-00247329-00247589 deeper than 4x well he's doing helps me
d9e44SEJfJ8-01088-00247590-00247844 everyday cuz I'm like when I when I
d9e44SEJfJ8-01089-00247844-00247973 don't want to get up and work on my
d9e44SEJfJ8-01090-00247973-00248096 business you know what I got to do I
d9e44SEJfJ8-01091-00248096-00248312 gotta look at him say yo he's in the
d9e44SEJfJ8-01092-00248313-00248506 army doing this and making it work for
d9e44SEJfJ8-01093-00248507-00248809 him so there's no reason to think that
d9e44SEJfJ8-01094-00248810-00249041 this isn't possible for you a lot of
d9e44SEJfJ8-01095-00249042-00249239 people pass over opportunities because
d9e44SEJfJ8-01096-00249240-00249500 they don't think that they can do it but
d9e44SEJfJ8-01097-00249501-00249733 guess what yo I'm not even gonna lie to
d9e44SEJfJ8-01098-00249734-00249944 you like when you talk about have your
d9e44SEJfJ8-01099-00249944-00250139 finances together so that you can get
d9e44SEJfJ8-01100-00250140-00250391 started I didn't even have the money to
d9e44SEJfJ8-01101-00250392-00250756 do this but I saw the long-term vision I
d9e44SEJfJ8-01102-00250757-00251134 saw the value and I got the money I did
d9e44SEJfJ8-01103-00251135-00251369 whatever I had to do to make it possible
d9e44SEJfJ8-01104-00251369-00251569 for me to get started
d9e44SEJfJ8-01105-00251571-00251842 cuz I said oh hell no I'm not going to
d9e44SEJfJ8-01106-00251844-00252137 miss out on this y'all ain't going to
d9e44SEJfJ8-01107-00252138-00252310 the whole check I don't even know what
d9e44SEJfJ8-01108-00252311-00252481 chairman was and I was talking about I'm
d9e44SEJfJ8-01109-00252482-00252650 gonna be a chairman y'all ain't going
d9e44SEJfJ8-01110-00252651-00252880 there without me like hold up I'm coming
d9e44SEJfJ8-01111-00252881-00253105 with you I see where you guys are going
d9e44SEJfJ8-01112-00253106-00253442 I'm going with you so no the same thing
d9e44SEJfJ8-01113-00253442-00253754 for yourself we are all like my whole
d9e44SEJfJ8-01114-00253755-00253967 team my whole organization we already
d9e44SEJfJ8-01115-00253967-00254167 had chairmen on the team we have a
d9e44SEJfJ8-01116-00254169-00254348 chairman 100 on the team there's
d9e44SEJfJ8-01117-00254348-00254627 chairman 500 to fit like its chairman
d9e44SEJfJ8-01118-00254628-00254888 everywhere like I know I so many
d9e44SEJfJ8-01119-00254889-00255113 chairmen like this is not like a joke to
d9e44SEJfJ8-01120-00255114-00255371 say in a game this is real you know a
d9e44SEJfJ8-01121-00255371-00255544 reason you don't know about it was
d9e44SEJfJ8-01122-00255546-00255725 because they didn't want us to know
d9e44SEJfJ8-01123-00255726-00255890 about this school to want to teach us
d9e44SEJfJ8-01124-00255891-00256205 about this there's more ways of life
d9e44SEJfJ8-01125-00256206-00256417 than making money than just going to a
d9e44SEJfJ8-01126-00256419-00256664 job in doing something for somebody that
d9e44SEJfJ8-01127-00256665-00256889 you probably don't like I'm speaking for
d9e44SEJfJ8-01128-00256890-00257165 myself but and I'm speaking for a lot of
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d9Wshs_hYyM-00000-00000058-00000409 Brahmin Sanskrit brahmana as a Varna
d9Wshs_hYyM-00001-00000410-00000725 class in Hinduism specializing as
d9Wshs_hYyM-00002-00000726-00001058 priests teachers acharya and protectors
d9Wshs_hYyM-00003-00001059-00001322 of sacred learning across generations
d9Wshs_hYyM-00004-00001323-00001612 the traditional occupation of brahmins
d9Wshs_hYyM-00005-00001613-00001838 was that of priesthood at the hindu
d9Wshs_hYyM-00006-00001839-00002174 temples or at socio religious ceremonies
d9Wshs_hYyM-00007-00002175-00002413 and rite of passage rituals such as
d9Wshs_hYyM-00008-00002414-00002659 solemnity a wedding with hymns and
d9Wshs_hYyM-00009-00002660-00003047 prayers theoretically the brahmins were
d9Wshs_hYyM-00010-00003048-00003284 the highest ranking of the four social
d9Wshs_hYyM-00011-00003285-00003713 classes in practice Indian texts suggest
d9Wshs_hYyM-00012-00003714-00003990 that Brahmins were agriculturalists
d9Wshs_hYyM-00013-00003992-00004295 warriors traders and have held a variety
d9Wshs_hYyM-00014-00004296-00004591 of other occupations in the Indian
d9Wshs_hYyM-00015-00004592-00005238 subcontinent
d9Wshs_hYyM-00016-00005239-00005665 topic Vedic sources
d9Wshs_hYyM-00017-00005666-00006182 you
d9Wshs_hYyM-00018-00006183-00006758 topic purusha sukta
d9Wshs_hYyM-00019-00006759-00007038 the earliest inferred reference to
d9Wshs_hYyM-00020-00007039-00007469 Brahman as a possible social class as in
d9Wshs_hYyM-00021-00007470-00007553 the Rigveda
d9Wshs_hYyM-00022-00007554-00007792 occurs once and the hymn is called
d9Wshs_hYyM-00023-00007793-00008180 purusha sukta according to this him in
d9Wshs_hYyM-00024-00008181-00008491 mandala 10 Brahmans are described as
d9Wshs_hYyM-00025-00008492-00008726 having emerged from the mouth of Purusha
d9Wshs_hYyM-00026-00008727-00008989 being that part of the body from which
d9Wshs_hYyM-00027-00008990-00009395 words emerge this purusha sukta Varna
d9Wshs_hYyM-00028-00009396-00009635 verse is now generally considered to
d9Wshs_hYyM-00029-00009636-00009923 have been inserted at a later date into
d9Wshs_hYyM-00030-00009924-00010202 the Vedic text possibly as a charter
d9Wshs_hYyM-00031-00010203-00010613 myth Stephane Jameson and Joel Brereton
d9Wshs_hYyM-00032-00010614-00010898 a professor of Sanskrit and religious
d9Wshs_hYyM-00033-00010899-00011246 studies state there is no evidence in
d9Wshs_hYyM-00034-00011247-00011512 the Rig Veda for an elaborate much
d9Wshs_hYyM-00035-00011513-00011863 subdivided and overarching caste system
d9Wshs_hYyM-00036-00011864-00012296 and the Varna system seems to be
d9Wshs_hYyM-00037-00012297-00012635 embryonic in the Rig Veda and both then
d9Wshs_hYyM-00038-00012636-00012965 and later a social ideal rather than a
d9Wshs_hYyM-00039-00012966-00013679 social reality
d9Wshs_hYyM-00040-00013680-00014269 topic shroud a sutras
d9Wshs_hYyM-00041-00014270-00014561 ancient texts describing community
d9Wshs_hYyM-00042-00014562-00014888 oriented Vedic yajna rituals mentioned
d9Wshs_hYyM-00043-00014888-00015197 four to five priests the haut are the ad
d9Wshs_hYyM-00044-00015197-00015469 of air you the you'd gather the Brahmin
d9Wshs_hYyM-00045-00015470-00015824 and sometimes the rittvik the functions
d9Wshs_hYyM-00046-00015825-00016166 associated with the priests were
d9Wshs_hYyM-00047-00016168-00016452 the Hawtree recites invocations and
d9Wshs_hYyM-00048-00016453-00016717 litanies drawn from the Rigveda
d9Wshs_hYyM-00049-00016718-00017000 the ad aver you as the priest's
d9Wshs_hYyM-00050-00017001-00017214 assistant and as in charge of the
d9Wshs_hYyM-00051-00017215-00017456 physical details of the ritual like
d9Wshs_hYyM-00052-00017457-00017694 measuring the ground building the altar
d9Wshs_hYyM-00053-00017695-00018083 explained in the yajurveda the ad aver
d9Wshs_hYyM-00054-00018084-00018497 you offers oblations the you'd get tree
d9Wshs_hYyM-00055-00018498-00018761 as the chanter of him set to melodies
d9Wshs_hYyM-00056-00018762-00019105 and music saman drawn from the samaveda
d9Wshs_hYyM-00057-00019106-00019491 the you Dadar like the ho tar chants the
d9Wshs_hYyM-00058-00019492-00019709 introductory accompanying and
d9Wshs_hYyM-00059-00019710-00020114 benediction hymns the Brahmin recites
d9Wshs_hYyM-00060-00020115-00020511 from the atharvaveda the Ritva jazz the
d9Wshs_hYyM-00061-00020512-00020775 chief operating priest according to
d9Wshs_hYyM-00062-00020776-00021183 Kulkarni the GR hya sutras state that
d9Wshs_hYyM-00063-00021184-00021480 yajna a Dhyana studying the Vedas and
d9Wshs_hYyM-00064-00021481-00021725 teaching Dana Pratt agraja
d9Wshs_hYyM-00065-00021726-00021992 accepting and giving gifts are the
d9Wshs_hYyM-00066-00021993-00022292 peculiar duties and privileges of
d9Wshs_hYyM-00067-00022293-00022912 Brahmins
d9Wshs_hYyM-00068-00022913-00023324 topic brahman and renunciation tradition
d9Wshs_hYyM-00069-00023325-00023763 in hinduism
d9Wshs_hYyM-00070-00023764-00024084 the term Brahmin in Indian texts has
d9Wshs_hYyM-00071-00024085-00024327 signified someone who is good and
d9Wshs_hYyM-00072-00024328-00024612 virtuous not just someone of priestly
d9Wshs_hYyM-00073-00024613-00024993 class both Buddhist and Brahmanical
d9Wshs_hYyM-00074-00024994-00025274 literature states Patrick Allah vel
d9Wshs_hYyM-00075-00025275-00025694 repeatedly define Brahman not in terms
d9Wshs_hYyM-00076-00025695-00025968 of family of birth but in terms of
d9Wshs_hYyM-00077-00025969-00026351 personal qualities these virtues and
d9Wshs_hYyM-00078-00026352-00026577 characteristics mirror the values
d9Wshs_hYyM-00079-00026577-00026817 cherished in Hinduism during the
d9Wshs_hYyM-00080-00026818-00027108 sannyasa stage of life or the life of
d9Wshs_hYyM-00081-00027108-00027464 renunciation for spiritual pursuits
d9Wshs_hYyM-00082-00027464-00027815 Brahmans states Olive L where the social
d9Wshs_hYyM-00083-00027816-00028617 class from which most ascetics came
d9Wshs_hYyM-00084-00028618-00029351 topic dharma sutras and dharma Shastras
d9Wshs_hYyM-00085-00029352-00029627 the Dharma sutras and Dharma sutras
d9Wshs_hYyM-00086-00029627-00029880 texts of Hinduism described the
d9Wshs_hYyM-00087-00029881-00030235 expectations duties and role of Brahmins
d9Wshs_hYyM-00088-00030236-00030577 the rules and duties in these Dharma
d9Wshs_hYyM-00089-00030578-00030871 texts of Hinduism are primarily directed
d9Wshs_hYyM-00090-00030872-00031274 at Brahmins the Gautama is Dharma Sutra
d9Wshs_hYyM-00091-00031275-00031523 the oldest of surviving Hindu Dharma
d9Wshs_hYyM-00092-00031524-00031874 sutras for example states in verse nine
d9Wshs_hYyM-00093-00031875-00032218 point five four to nine point five five
d9Wshs_hYyM-00094-00032219-00032524 that a Brahmin should not participate or
d9Wshs_hYyM-00095-00032525-00032815 perform a ritual unless he is invited to
d9Wshs_hYyM-00096-00032816-00033239 do so but he may attend gautuma outlines
d9Wshs_hYyM-00097-00033240-00033499 the following rules of conduct for a
d9Wshs_hYyM-00098-00033500-00033876 Brahmin in chapters 8 & 9
d9Wshs_hYyM-00099-00033877-00034346 be always truthful teach his art only to
d9Wshs_hYyM-00100-00034347-00034764 virtuous men follow rules of ritual
d9Wshs_hYyM-00101-00034765-00035339 purification study Vedas with delight
d9Wshs_hYyM-00102-00035340-00035660 never hurt any living creature
d9Wshs_hYyM-00103-00035661-00036052 be gentle but steadfast have
d9Wshs_hYyM-00104-00036053-00036258 self-control
d9Wshs_hYyM-00105-00036259-00036601 be kind liberal towards everyone Chapter
d9Wshs_hYyM-00106-00036602-00036837 eight of the dharma sutra states ah
d9Wshs_hYyM-00107-00036838-00037077 Lavelle asserts the functions of a
d9Wshs_hYyM-00108-00037078-00037320 brahman to be to learn the Vedas the
d9Wshs_hYyM-00109-00037321-00037629 secular sciences the vedic supplements
d9Wshs_hYyM-00110-00037630-00037920 the dialogues the epics and the Puranas
d9Wshs_hYyM-00111-00037921-00038241 to understand the texts and pattern his
d9Wshs_hYyM-00112-00038242-00038523 conduct according to precepts contained
d9Wshs_hYyM-00113-00038524-00038862 in this texts to undertake sanskara rite
d9Wshs_hYyM-00114-00038863-00039108 of passage and rituals and led a
d9Wshs_hYyM-00115-00039109-00039376 virtuous life the text lists eight
d9Wshs_hYyM-00116-00039377-00039660 virtues that a Brahmin must inculcate
d9Wshs_hYyM-00117-00039661-00040007 compassion patience lack of envy
d9Wshs_hYyM-00118-00040008-00040311 purification tranquility auspicious
d9Wshs_hYyM-00119-00040312-00040654 disposition generosity and lack of greed
d9Wshs_hYyM-00120-00040655-00040960 and then asserts in verse nine point two
d9Wshs_hYyM-00121-00040961-00041292 four to nine point two five that it is
d9Wshs_hYyM-00122-00041293-00041544 more important to lead a virtuous life
d9Wshs_hYyM-00123-00041545-00041823 than perform rites and rituals because
d9Wshs_hYyM-00124-00041824-00042110 virtue leads to achieving liberation
d9Wshs_hYyM-00125-00042111-00042429 moksha a life in the world of Brahman
d9Wshs_hYyM-00126-00042430-00042873 the later Dharma texts of Hinduism such
d9Wshs_hYyM-00127-00042874-00043185 as body on adharma Sutra ad charity
d9Wshs_hYyM-00128-00043186-00043512 modesty refraining from anger and never
d9Wshs_hYyM-00129-00043513-00043746 being arrogant as duties of a brahmana
d9Wshs_hYyM-00130-00043747-00044167 the vasus the dharma sutra in verse six
d9Wshs_hYyM-00131-00044168-00044411 point two three lists discipline
d9Wshs_hYyM-00132-00044412-00044738 austerity self-control liberality
d9Wshs_hYyM-00133-00044739-00045071 truthfulness purity Vedic learning
d9Wshs_hYyM-00134-00045072-00045414 compassion erudition intelligence and
d9Wshs_hYyM-00135-00045415-00045687 religious faith as characteristics of a
d9Wshs_hYyM-00136-00045688-00046098 brahmana in thirteen point five five the
d9Wshs_hYyM-00137-00046099-00046362 vacis the text states that a Brahmin
d9Wshs_hYyM-00138-00046363-00046671 must not accept weapons poison or liquor
d9Wshs_hYyM-00139-00046672-00047001 as gifts the Dharma sastras such as Manu
d9Wshs_hYyM-00140-00047002-00047277 Moretti like Dharma sutras are codes
d9Wshs_hYyM-00141-00047278-00047583 primarily focused on how a Brahmin must
d9Wshs_hYyM-00142-00047584-00047823 live his life and their relationship
d9Wshs_hYyM-00143-00047824-00048074 with a king and warrior class
d9Wshs_hYyM-00144-00048075-00048592 Manu Moretti dedicates 1034 verses the
d9Wshs_hYyM-00145-00048593-00048939 largest portion on laws for an expected
d9Wshs_hYyM-00146-00048940-00049302 virtues of Brahmins it asserts for
d9Wshs_hYyM-00147-00049303-00049490 example
d9Wshs_hYyM-00148-00049491-00049758 a well-disciplined Brahmin although he
d9Wshs_hYyM-00149-00049759-00050036 knows just the Savitri verse is far
d9Wshs_hYyM-00150-00050037-00050267 better than an undisciplined one who
d9Wshs_hYyM-00151-00050268-00050535 eats all types of food and deals in all
d9Wshs_hYyM-00152-00050536-00050786 types of merchandise though he may know
d9Wshs_hYyM-00153-00050787-00051152 all three Vedas John busts an itch
d9Wshs_hYyM-00154-00051153-00051455 states that the ethical precept set for
d9Wshs_hYyM-00155-00051457-00051740 Brahmans in ancient Indian texts are
d9Wshs_hYyM-00156-00051741-00052021 similar to Greek virtue ethics that
d9Wshs_hYyM-00157-00052022-00052367 manu's dharmic Brahmin can be compared
d9Wshs_hYyM-00158-00052369-00052665 to Aristotle's man of practical wisdom
d9Wshs_hYyM-00159-00052666-00053160 and that the virtuous brahmanas not
d9Wshs_hYyM-00160-00053161-00053447 unlike the Platonic Aristotelian
d9Wshs_hYyM-00161-00053448-00053778 philosopher with the difference that the
d9Wshs_hYyM-00162-00053779-00054467 latter was not Sasser total
d9Wshs_hYyM-00163-00054469-00055005 topic history
d9Wshs_hYyM-00164-00055007-00055376 according to Abraham airily brahmana
d9Wshs_hYyM-00165-00055377-00055682 Suvarna hardly had any presence in
d9Wshs_hYyM-00166-00055683-00055973 historical records before the Gupta
d9Wshs_hYyM-00167-00055974-00056455 Empire era third century to 6th century
d9Wshs_hYyM-00168-00056457-00056861 CE when Buddhism dominated the land no
d9Wshs_hYyM-00169-00056862-00057304 Brahmin no sacrifice no ritualistic act
d9Wshs_hYyM-00170-00057305-00057662 of any kind ever even once is referred
d9Wshs_hYyM-00171-00057663-00058091 to in any Indian texts between 3rd
d9Wshs_hYyM-00172-00058091-00058373 century BCE and the late first century
d9Wshs_hYyM-00173-00058374-00058775 CE II and also states that the absence
d9Wshs_hYyM-00174-00058776-00059054 of literary and material evidence
d9Wshs_hYyM-00175-00059054-00059413 however does not mean that Brahmanical
d9Wshs_hYyM-00176-00059414-00059755 culture did not exist at that time but
d9Wshs_hYyM-00177-00059757-00060053 only that it had no elite patronage and
d9Wshs_hYyM-00178-00060054-00060362 was largely confined to rural folk and
d9Wshs_hYyM-00179-00060363-00060769 therefore gone unrecorded in the history
d9Wshs_hYyM-00180-00060770-00061132 their role as priests and repository of
d9Wshs_hYyM-00181-00061133-00061366 sacred knowledge as well as their
d9Wshs_hYyM-00182-00061367-00061601 importance in the practice of Vedic
d9Wshs_hYyM-00183-00061602-00061874 shraddha rituals grew during the Gupta
d9Wshs_hYyM-00184-00061875-00062285 Empire era and thereafter however the
d9Wshs_hYyM-00185-00062286-00062513 knowledge about actual history of
d9Wshs_hYyM-00186-00062514-00062828 Brahmins or other varnas of Hinduism in
d9Wshs_hYyM-00187-00062829-00063038 and after first millennium as
d9Wshs_hYyM-00188-00063039-00063338 fragmentary and preliminary with little
d9Wshs_hYyM-00189-00063339-00063599 that is from verifiable records or
d9Wshs_hYyM-00190-00063600-00063880 archaeological evidence and much that is
d9Wshs_hYyM-00191-00063882-00064151 constructed from a historical Sanskrit
d9Wshs_hYyM-00192-00064152-00064632 works and fiction Michel witzel right
d9Wshs_hYyM-00193-00064633-00064953 toward a history of the Brahmins current
d9Wshs_hYyM-00194-00064954-00065270 research in the area as fragmentary the
d9Wshs_hYyM-00195-00065271-00065499 state of our knowledge of this
d9Wshs_hYyM-00196-00065500-00065805 fundamental subject is preliminary at
d9Wshs_hYyM-00197-00065806-00066240 best most sanksrit works are a historic
d9Wshs_hYyM-00198-00066241-00066579 or at least not especially interested in
d9Wshs_hYyM-00199-00066580-00066828 presenting a chronological account of
d9Wshs_hYyM-00200-00066829-00067110 India's history when we actually
d9Wshs_hYyM-00201-00067111-00067464 encounter history such as in Raja Turan
d9Wshs_hYyM-00202-00067465-00067737 genie or in the Gopala Vamsi Valley of
d9Wshs_hYyM-00203-00067738-00067998 Nepal the texts do not deal with
d9Wshs_hYyM-00204-00067999-00068707 Brahmins in great detail
d9Wshs_hYyM-00205-00068708-00069361 topic normative occupations
d9Wshs_hYyM-00206-00069362-00069702 the Gautama Dharma Sutra states in verse
d9Wshs_hYyM-00207-00069703-00070051 10.3 that it is obligatory on a Brahmin
d9Wshs_hYyM-00208-00070052-00070450 to learn and teach the Vedas chapter 10
d9Wshs_hYyM-00209-00070451-00070692 of the text according to a Laval
d9Wshs_hYyM-00210-00070693-00070969 translation states that he may impart
d9Wshs_hYyM-00211-00070970-00071293 Vedic instructions to a teacher relative
d9Wshs_hYyM-00212-00071294-00071656 friend elder anyone who offers exchange
d9Wshs_hYyM-00213-00071657-00071953 of knowledge he wants or anyone who pays
d9Wshs_hYyM-00214-00071954-00072355 for such education the chapter 10 adds
d9Wshs_hYyM-00215-00072356-00072589 that a Brahmin may also engage in
d9Wshs_hYyM-00216-00072590-00072964 agriculture trade lend money on interest
d9Wshs_hYyM-00217-00072965-00073270 while chapter 7 states that a Brahmin
d9Wshs_hYyM-00218-00073271-00073507 may engage in the occupation of a
d9Wshs_hYyM-00219-00073508-00073821 warrior in the times of adversity
d9Wshs_hYyM-00220-00073822-00074176 typically asserts Gautama Dharma Sutra a
d9Wshs_hYyM-00221-00074177-00074470 Brahmin should accept any occupation to
d9Wshs_hYyM-00222-00074471-00074695 sustain himself but avoid the
d9Wshs_hYyM-00223-00074696-00074983 occupations of a sudra but if his life
d9Wshs_hYyM-00224-00074984-00075208 as at stake a Brahmin may sustain
d9Wshs_hYyM-00225-00075209-00075532 himself by accepting occupations of a
d9Wshs_hYyM-00226-00075533-00075910 sudra the text forbids a Brahmin from
d9Wshs_hYyM-00227-00075911-00076159 engaging in the trade of animals for
d9Wshs_hYyM-00228-00076160-00076414 slaughter meat medicines and milk
d9Wshs_hYyM-00229-00076415-00076647 products even in the times of adversity
d9Wshs_hYyM-00230-00076648-00077011 the APUs tomba dharma sutra asserts in
d9Wshs_hYyM-00231-00077012-00077527 verse 1.2 0.10 that trade is generally
d9Wshs_hYyM-00232-00077528-00077782 not sanctioned for brahmins but in the
d9Wshs_hYyM-00233-00077783-00078163 times of adversity he may do so the
d9Wshs_hYyM-00234-00078164-00078586 chapter 1.20 of APUs Tomba States Allah
d9Wshs_hYyM-00235-00078587-00078856 vel forbids the trade of the following
d9Wshs_hYyM-00236-00078857-00079165 under any circumstances human beings
d9Wshs_hYyM-00237-00079166-00079621 meat skins weapons barren cows sesame
d9Wshs_hYyM-00238-00079622-00079915 seeds pepper and merits the first
d9Wshs_hYyM-00239-00079916-00080215 millennium CE e Dharma sastras that
d9Wshs_hYyM-00240-00080216-00080443 followed the Dharma sutras contains
d9Wshs_hYyM-00241-00080444-00080734 similar recommendations on occupations
d9Wshs_hYyM-00242-00080735-00081019 for a Brahmin both in prosperous or
d9Wshs_hYyM-00243-00081020-00081253 normal times and in the times of
d9Wshs_hYyM-00244-00081254-00081649 adversity the widely studied manu Mary T
d9Wshs_hYyM-00245-00081650-00081946 for example states
d9Wshs_hYyM-00246-00081947-00082234 except during a time of adversity a
d9Wshs_hYyM-00247-00082235-00082495 Brahmin ought to sustain himself by
d9Wshs_hYyM-00248-00082496-00082732 following a livelihood that causes
d9Wshs_hYyM-00249-00082733-00083107 little or no harm to creatures he should
d9Wshs_hYyM-00250-00083108-00083350 gather wealth just sufficient for his
d9Wshs_hYyM-00251-00083351-00083560 subsistence through her approachable
d9Wshs_hYyM-00252-00083561-00083806 activities that are specific to him
d9Wshs_hYyM-00253-00083807-00084538 without fatiguing his body 4.2 to 4.3 he
d9Wshs_hYyM-00254-00084539-00084823 must never follow a worldly occupation
d9Wshs_hYyM-00255-00084824-00085099 for the sake of livelihood but subsist
d9Wshs_hYyM-00256-00085100-00085390 by means of a pure upright and honest
d9Wshs_hYyM-00257-00085391-00085765 livelihood proper to a Brahmin one who
d9Wshs_hYyM-00258-00085766-00086023 seeks happiness should become supremely
d9Wshs_hYyM-00259-00086024-00086299 content and self controlled for
d9Wshs_hYyM-00260-00086300-00086566 happiness as rooted in contentment and
d9Wshs_hYyM-00261-00086567-00086943 its opposite as the root of unhappiness
d9Wshs_hYyM-00262-00086944-00087613 4.11 24.1 to the Manu Mary T recommends
d9Wshs_hYyM-00263-00087614-00087874 that a Brahmins occupation must never
d9Wshs_hYyM-00264-00087875-00088123 involve forbidden activities such as
d9Wshs_hYyM-00265-00088124-00088510 producing or trading poison weapons meat
d9Wshs_hYyM-00266-00088511-00088924 trapping birds and others it also lists
d9Wshs_hYyM-00267-00088925-00089230 six occupations that it deems proper for
d9Wshs_hYyM-00268-00089231-00089539 a Brahmin teaching studying offering
d9Wshs_hYyM-00269-00089540-00089908 yajna officiating at yajna giving gifts
d9Wshs_hYyM-00270-00089909-00090304 and accepting gifts of these statesmen
d9Wshs_hYyM-00271-00090305-00090613 umer 83 which provide a Brahmin with a
d9Wshs_hYyM-00272-00090614-00090901 livelihood are teaching officiating at
d9Wshs_hYyM-00273-00090902-00091291 yajna and accepting gifts the text
d9Wshs_hYyM-00274-00091292-00091573 states that teaching is best and ranks
d9Wshs_hYyM-00275-00091574-00091831 the accepting of gifts as the lowest of
d9Wshs_hYyM-00276-00091832-00092190 the six in the times of adversity
d9Wshs_hYyM-00277-00092191-00092506 minuite recommends that a Brahmin may
d9Wshs_hYyM-00278-00092507-00092794 live by engaging in the occupations of
d9Wshs_hYyM-00279-00092795-00093070 the warrior class or agriculture or
d9Wshs_hYyM-00280-00093071-00093529 cattle herding or trade of these minuite
d9Wshs_hYyM-00281-00093530-00093901 in verses 10.8 three to ten point eight
d9Wshs_hYyM-00282-00093902-00094197 for recommends a Brahmin should avoid
d9Wshs_hYyM-00283-00094198-00094417 agriculture if possible because
d9Wshs_hYyM-00284-00094418-00094701 according to a Laval translation
d9Wshs_hYyM-00285-00094702-00095053 agriculture involves injury to living
d9Wshs_hYyM-00286-00095054-00095363 beings and dependents of others
d9Wshs_hYyM-00287-00095364-00095630 when the plow digs the ground and
d9Wshs_hYyM-00288-00095631-00095846 injures the creatures that live in the
d9Wshs_hYyM-00289-00095847-00095956 soil
d9Wshs_hYyM-00290-00095957-00096368 however ads minuite even in the times of
d9Wshs_hYyM-00291-00096369-00096700 adversity a Brahmin must never trade or
d9Wshs_hYyM-00292-00096701-00097112 produce poison weapons meat soma liquor
d9Wshs_hYyM-00293-00097113-00097496 perfume milk and milk products molasses
d9Wshs_hYyM-00294-00097497-00097825 captured animals or birds bees wax
d9Wshs_hYyM-00295-00097826-00098567 sesame seeds or roots
d9Wshs_hYyM-00296-00098568-00099329 topic actual occupations historical
d9Wshs_hYyM-00297-00099330-00099625 records state scholars suggest that
d9Wshs_hYyM-00298-00099626-00099884 Brahman Varna was not limited to a
d9Wshs_hYyM-00299-00099885-00100129 particular status or priests and
d9Wshs_hYyM-00300-00100130-00100484 teaching profession historical records
d9Wshs_hYyM-00301-00100485-00100750 from mid first millennium CE II and
d9Wshs_hYyM-00302-00100751-00101016 later suggest Brahmins were
d9Wshs_hYyM-00303-00101017-00101254 agriculturalists and warriors in
d9Wshs_hYyM-00304-00101255-00101536 medieval India quite often instead of as
d9Wshs_hYyM-00305-00101537-00101897 exception Donkin and other scholars
d9Wshs_hYyM-00306-00101898-00102166 state that Hoysala Empire records
d9Wshs_hYyM-00307-00102167-00102430 frequently mentioned Brahmin merchants
d9Wshs_hYyM-00308-00102431-00102832 carried on trade in horses elephants and
d9Wshs_hYyM-00309-00102833-00103177 pearls and transported goods throughout
d9Wshs_hYyM-00310-00103178-00103472 medieval India before the 14th century
d9Wshs_hYyM-00311-00103473-00103823 the Pali Canon depicts Brahmins as the
d9Wshs_hYyM-00312-00103824-00104086 most prestigious and elite non-buddhist
d9Wshs_hYyM-00313-00104088-00104426 figures they mentioned them parading
d9Wshs_hYyM-00314-00104427-00104716 their learning the pali canon and other
d9Wshs_hYyM-00315-00104717-00104983 buddhist texts such as the Jataka tales
d9Wshs_hYyM-00316-00104983-00105310 also record the livelihood of brahmins
d9Wshs_hYyM-00317-00105311-00105547 to have included being farmers
d9Wshs_hYyM-00318-00105548-00105872 handicraft workers and artisans such as
d9Wshs_hYyM-00319-00105873-00106216 carpentry and architecture buddhist
d9Wshs_hYyM-00320-00106217-00106532 sources extensively attest state greg
d9Wshs_hYyM-00321-00106533-00106863 bailey and ian mavet that Brahmins were
d9Wshs_hYyM-00322-00106864-00107185 supporting themselves not by religious
d9Wshs_hYyM-00323-00107186-00107498 practice but employment in all manner of
d9Wshs_hYyM-00324-00107499-00107957 secular occupations in the Classical
d9Wshs_hYyM-00325-00107958-00108247 period of India some of the Brahmin
d9Wshs_hYyM-00326-00108248-00108497 occupations mentioned in the Buddhist
d9Wshs_hYyM-00327-00108498-00108806 texts such as Jatakas and Sutton nepata
d9Wshs_hYyM-00328-00108807-00109196 are very lowly the dharma sutras to
d9Wshs_hYyM-00329-00109197-00109382 mention Brahmin farmers
d9Wshs_hYyM-00330-00109383-00109673 according to Heydar and Sardar unlike
d9Wshs_hYyM-00331-00109674-00109922 the Mughal Empire in northern India
d9Wshs_hYyM-00332-00109923-00110195 Brahmins figured prominently in the
d9Wshs_hYyM-00333-00110196-00110482 administration of Deccan Sultanate s--
d9Wshs_hYyM-00334-00110483-00110854 under Golconda sultanate Telugu Neoga
d9Wshs_hYyM-00335-00110855-00111109 Brahmins served in many different roles
d9Wshs_hYyM-00336-00111110-00111451 such as accountants ministers revenue
d9Wshs_hYyM-00337-00111452-00111791 administration and in judicial service
d9Wshs_hYyM-00338-00111792-00112055 the deck insulting it's also heavily
d9Wshs_hYyM-00339-00112056-00112346 recruited marathi brahmins at different
d9Wshs_hYyM-00340-00112347-00112577 levels of their administration during
d9Wshs_hYyM-00341-00112578-00112904 the days of Murata empire in the 17th
d9Wshs_hYyM-00342-00112905-00113222 and 18th century the occupation of
d9Wshs_hYyM-00343-00113223-00113452 marathi brahmins ranged from
d9Wshs_hYyM-00344-00113453-00113741 administration being warriors to being
d9Wshs_hYyM-00345-00113742-00114006 de facto rulers
d9Wshs_hYyM-00346-00114007-00114278 after the collapse of Murata empire
d9Wshs_hYyM-00347-00114279-00114584 brahmins in maharashtra region were
d9Wshs_hYyM-00348-00114585-00114855 quick to take advantage of opportunities
d9Wshs_hYyM-00349-00114856-00115149 opened up by the new British rulers they
d9Wshs_hYyM-00350-00115150-00115356 were the first community to take up
d9Wshs_hYyM-00351-00115357-00115577 Western education and therefore
d9Wshs_hYyM-00352-00115578-00115833 dominated lower level of British
d9Wshs_hYyM-00353-00115833-00116099 administration in the 19th century
d9Wshs_hYyM-00354-00116100-00116421 similarly the Tamil Brahmins were also
d9Wshs_hYyM-00355-00116422-00116658 quick to take up English education
d9Wshs_hYyM-00356-00116658-00116860 during British colonial rule and
d9Wshs_hYyM-00357-00116861-00117138 dominate government service and law
d9Wshs_hYyM-00358-00117139-00117408 Erich bellman states that during the
d9Wshs_hYyM-00359-00117408-00117693 Islamic Mughal Empire era Brahmins
d9Wshs_hYyM-00360-00117694-00117990 served as advisors to the Mughals later
d9Wshs_hYyM-00361-00117991-00118323 to the British Raj the East India
d9Wshs_hYyM-00362-00118324-00118605 Company also recruited from the Brahmin
d9Wshs_hYyM-00363-00118606-00118872 communities of Bihar and AH WA in the
d9Wshs_hYyM-00364-00118873-00119178 present-day lutar Pradesh for the Bengal
d9Wshs_hYyM-00365-00119179-00119459 army many Brahmins in other parts of
d9Wshs_hYyM-00366-00119460-00119706 South Asia lived like other Varna
d9Wshs_hYyM-00367-00119707-00120023 engaged in all sorts of professions
d9Wshs_hYyM-00368-00120024-00120426 among Nepalese Hindus for example Niels
d9Wshs_hYyM-00369-00120427-00120729 gallo and axel Michael's report the
d9Wshs_hYyM-00370-00120730-00121002 actual observed professions of Brahmins
d9Wshs_hYyM-00371-00121003-00121368 from 18th to early 20th century included
d9Wshs_hYyM-00372-00121369-00121701 being temple priests minister merchants
d9Wshs_hYyM-00373-00121702-00122069 farmers potters Masons carpenters
d9Wshs_hYyM-00374-00122070-00122388 coppersmiths stone workers barbers
d9Wshs_hYyM-00375-00122389-00122688 gardeners among others other 20th
d9Wshs_hYyM-00376-00122689-00122982 century surveys such as in the state of
d9Wshs_hYyM-00377-00122983-00123270 Uttar Pradesh recorded that the primary
d9Wshs_hYyM-00378-00123271-00123528 occupation of almost all Brahmin
d9Wshs_hYyM-00379-00123529-00123816 families surveyed was neither priestly
d9Wshs_hYyM-00380-00123817-00124131 nor Vedas related but like other varnas
d9Wshs_hYyM-00381-00124132-00124518 ranged from crop farming 80% of Brahmins
d9Wshs_hYyM-00382-00124519-00124881 dairy service labor such as cooking and
d9Wshs_hYyM-00383-00124882-00125289 other occupations the survey reported
d9Wshs_hYyM-00384-00125290-00125532 that the Brahmin families involved in
d9Wshs_hYyM-00385-00125533-00125783 agriculture as their primary occupation
d9Wshs_hYyM-00386-00125784-00126027 in modern times plough the land
d9Wshs_hYyM-00387-00126028-00126308 themselves many supplementing their
d9Wshs_hYyM-00388-00126309-00126576 income by selling their labour services
d9Wshs_hYyM-00389-00126577-00126818 to other farmers
d9Wshs_hYyM-00390-00126819-00127219 you
d9Wshs_hYyM-00391-00127220-00127602 topic brahmins bhakti movement and
d9Wshs_hYyM-00392-00127603-00128147 social reform movements
d9Wshs_hYyM-00393-00128148-00128410 many of the prominent thinkers and
d9Wshs_hYyM-00394-00128411-00128626 earliest champions of the bhakti
d9Wshs_hYyM-00395-00128627-00128875 movement were Brahmins a movement that
d9Wshs_hYyM-00396-00128876-00129178 encouraged a direct relationship of an
d9Wshs_hYyM-00397-00129179-00129557 individual with a personal God among the
d9Wshs_hYyM-00398-00129558-00129814 many Brahmins who nurtured the bhakti
d9Wshs_hYyM-00399-00129815-00130165 movement were Ramanuja nimbarka vallabha
d9Wshs_hYyM-00400-00130166-00130440 and madhvacharya of Vaishnavism
d9Wshs_hYyM-00401-00130441-00130815 Ramananda another devotional poet son
d9Wshs_hYyM-00402-00130816-00131171 born in a Brahmin family Ramananda
d9Wshs_hYyM-00403-00131172-00131456 welcomed everyone to spiritual pursuits
d9Wshs_hYyM-00404-00131457-00131756 without discriminating anyone by gender
d9Wshs_hYyM-00405-00131757-00132162 class caste or religion such as Muslims
d9Wshs_hYyM-00406-00132163-00132509 he composed his spiritual message in
d9Wshs_hYyM-00407-00132510-00132829 poems using widely spoken vernacular
d9Wshs_hYyM-00408-00132830-00133133 language rather than Sanskrit to make it
d9Wshs_hYyM-00409-00133134-00133498 widely accessible his ideas also
d9Wshs_hYyM-00410-00133499-00133789 influenced the founders of Sikhism in
d9Wshs_hYyM-00411-00133790-00134099 15th century and his verses then he are
d9Wshs_hYyM-00412-00134100-00134306 mentioned in the Sikh Scripture adi
d9Wshs_hYyM-00413-00134307-00134720 granth the Hindu tradition recognizes
d9Wshs_hYyM-00414-00134721-00134912 him as the founder of the Hindu
d9Wshs_hYyM-00415-00134913-00135194 Ramananda sampradaya the largest
d9Wshs_hYyM-00416-00135195-00135514 monastic renunciant community in Asia in
d9Wshs_hYyM-00417-00135515-00135782 modern times other medieval Arab
d9Wshs_hYyM-00418-00135783-00136037 Brahmans who led spiritual movement
d9Wshs_hYyM-00419-00136038-00136297 without social or gender discrimination
d9Wshs_hYyM-00420-00136298-00136700 included ándale 9th century female poet
d9Wshs_hYyM-00421-00136701-00137044 Basava 12th century Ling Guyot ISM
d9Wshs_hYyM-00422-00137045-00137401 dnyaneshwar 13th century bhakti poet
d9Wshs_hYyM-00423-00137402-00137779 vallabha Acharya 16th century Vaishnava
d9Wshs_hYyM-00424-00137780-00138094 poet among others many 18th and 19th
d9Wshs_hYyM-00425-00138095-00138340 century Brahmins are credited with
d9Wshs_hYyM-00426-00138341-00138598 religious movements that criticized
d9Wshs_hYyM-00427-00138599-00139022 idolatry for example the Brahmins Raja
d9Wshs_hYyM-00428-00139023-00139414 Ram Mohan Roy led Brahmo Samaj and de
d9Wshs_hYyM-00429-00139415-00140264 Ananda saraswati led the arya samaj
d9Wshs_hYyM-00430-00140265-00140678 topic modern demographics and economic
d9Wshs_hYyM-00431-00140679-00141110 condition
d9Wshs_hYyM-00432-00141111-00141524 according to 2007 reports brahmins in
d9Wshs_hYyM-00433-00141525-00141824 india are about 5% of its total
d9Wshs_hYyM-00434-00141825-00142184 population the Himalayan states of
d9Wshs_hYyM-00435-00142185-00142678 Uttarakhand 20% and hamachi Pradesh 14%
d9Wshs_hYyM-00436-00142679-00142940 have the highest percentage of Brahmin
d9Wshs_hYyM-00437-00142941-00143237 population relative to respective states
d9Wshs_hYyM-00438-00143238-00143498 total Hindus according to a Wall Street
d9Wshs_hYyM-00439-00143499-00143924 Journal report an estimated 65 percent
d9Wshs_hYyM-00440-00143925-00144200 of the Brahmin households in India with
d9Wshs_hYyM-00441-00144201-00144497 about 40 million people lived on less
d9Wshs_hYyM-00442-00144498-00144959 than $100 a month in 2004 this number
d9Wshs_hYyM-00443-00144960-00145399 dropped to about 50 percent in 2007
d9Wshs_hYyM-00444-00145400-00145721 brahmins have also included wealthier
d9Wshs_hYyM-00445-00145722-00146456 and politically successful members
d9Wshs_hYyM-00446-00146457-00147187 topic in Buddhist and Jaina texts
d9Wshs_hYyM-00447-00147188-00147532 the term Brahmin appears extensively in
d9Wshs_hYyM-00448-00147533-00147772 ancient and medieval sutras and
d9Wshs_hYyM-00449-00147773-00148101 commentary texts of Buddhism and Jainism
d9Wshs_hYyM-00450-00148102-00148462 in Buddhist Pali Canon such as the
d9Wshs_hYyM-00451-00148463-00148786 majima nakiya and avada hasad ah first
d9Wshs_hYyM-00452-00148787-00149140 written down about first century BCE the
d9Wshs_hYyM-00453-00149141-00149368 Buddha is attributed to be mentioning
d9Wshs_hYyM-00454-00149369-00149623 jain brahmins and ascetics as he
d9Wshs_hYyM-00455-00149624-00149845 describes their karma doctrine and
d9Wshs_hYyM-00456-00149846-00150080 ascetic practices
d9Wshs_hYyM-00457-00150081-00150416 the Blessed One Buddha said there are no
d9Wshs_hYyM-00458-00150417-00150704 monks some ascetics and brahmins who
d9Wshs_hYyM-00459-00150705-00150953 speak thus and are of such opinion
d9Wshs_hYyM-00460-00150954-00151283 whatever a particular person experiences
d9Wshs_hYyM-00461-00151284-00151517 whether pleasant or painful or
d9Wshs_hYyM-00462-00151518-00151808 neither-pleasant-nor-painful all this
d9Wshs_hYyM-00463-00151809-00152372 has thus say o monks those free of bonds
d9Wshs_hYyM-00464-00152373-00152996 Jana's own egg Anthes you modern
d9Wshs_hYyM-00465-00152997-00153272 scholars state that such usage of the
d9Wshs_hYyM-00466-00153273-00153551 term Brahman in ancient texts does not
d9Wshs_hYyM-00467-00153552-00154031 imply a caste but simply masters experts
d9Wshs_hYyM-00468-00154032-00154370 Guardian recluse preacher or guide of
d9Wshs_hYyM-00469-00154371-00154709 any tradition an alternate synonym for
d9Wshs_hYyM-00470-00154710-00154964 Brahman in the Buddhists and other non
d9Wshs_hYyM-00471-00154965-00155730 Hindu tradition as Mahon Oh
d9Wshs_hYyM-00472-00155731-00156147 topic outside South Asia Myanmar
d9Wshs_hYyM-00473-00156148-00156829 Thailand Cambodia and Indonesia
d9Wshs_hYyM-00474-00156830-00157137 some Brahmans formed an influential
d9Wshs_hYyM-00475-00157138-00157446 group in Burmese Buddhist kingdoms in
d9Wshs_hYyM-00476-00157447-00157890 18th and 19th century the court Brahmins
d9Wshs_hYyM-00477-00157891-00158196 were locally called panna during the con
d9Wshs_hYyM-00478-00158197-00158484 bang dynasty Buddhist kings relied on
d9Wshs_hYyM-00479-00158485-00158765 their court Brahmins to consecrate them
d9Wshs_hYyM-00480-00158766-00159045 to kingship in elaborate ceremonies and
d9Wshs_hYyM-00481-00159046-00159428 to help resolve political questions this
d9Wshs_hYyM-00482-00159429-00159699 role of hindu brahmins in a buddhist
d9Wshs_hYyM-00483-00159700-00159987 kingdom states lighter may have been
d9Wshs_hYyM-00484-00159988-00160229 because hindu texts provide guidelines
d9Wshs_hYyM-00485-00160230-00160565 for such social rituals and political
d9Wshs_hYyM-00486-00160566-00160845 ceremonies while buddhist texts don't
d9Wshs_hYyM-00487-00160846-00161127 the Brahmins were also consulted in the
d9Wshs_hYyM-00488-00161128-00161376 transmission development and maintenance
d9Wshs_hYyM-00489-00161377-00161753 of law and justice system outside India
d9Wshs_hYyM-00490-00161754-00162093 Hindu Dharma sastras particularly
d9Wshs_hYyM-00491-00162094-00162375 minuite written by the Brahmin Manu
d9Wshs_hYyM-00492-00162376-00162759 States Anthony read were greatly honored
d9Wshs_hYyM-00493-00162760-00163218 in Burma Myanmar siam thailand cambodia
d9Wshs_hYyM-00494-00163219-00163545 and java bali indonesia
d9Wshs_hYyM-00495-00163546-00163851 as the defining documents of law and
d9Wshs_hYyM-00496-00163852-00164118 order which king's were obliged to
d9Wshs_hYyM-00497-00164119-00164231 uphold
d9Wshs_hYyM-00498-00164232-00164606 they were copied translated and
d9Wshs_hYyM-00499-00164607-00164919 incorporated into local law code with
d9Wshs_hYyM-00500-00164920-00165243 strict adherence to the original text in
d9Wshs_hYyM-00501-00165244-00165597 burma and Siam and a stronger tendency
d9Wshs_hYyM-00502-00165598-00165870 to adapt to local needs in java
d9Wshs_hYyM-00503-00165871-00166290 indonesia the mythical origins of
d9Wshs_hYyM-00504-00166291-00166548 cambodia are credited to a brahmin
d9Wshs_hYyM-00505-00166549-00166841 prince named candy nia who arrived by
d9Wshs_hYyM-00506-00166842-00166908 sea
d9Wshs_hYyM-00507-00166909-00167172 Merida Naga princess living in the
d9Wshs_hYyM-00508-00167173-00167574 flooded lands Kadena founded Cambodia
d9Wshs_hYyM-00509-00167575-00167901 dasa orcam Buju transliterated to
d9Wshs_hYyM-00510-00167902-00168276 cambogia or cambodia candy nia
d9Wshs_hYyM-00511-00168277-00168594 introduced hinduism particularly brahma
d9Wshs_hYyM-00512-00168595-00168990 vishnu shiva and harihara half vishnu
d9Wshs_hYyM-00513-00168991-00169299 half shiva and these ideas grew in
d9Wshs_hYyM-00514-00169300-00169604 Southeast Asia in the 1st millennium CE
d9Wshs_hYyM-00515-00169605-00169686 II
d9Wshs_hYyM-00516-00169687-00169869 Romans have been part of the royal
d9Wshs_hYyM-00517-00169870-00170181 tradition of Thailand particularly for
d9Wshs_hYyM-00518-00170182-00170451 the consecration and to mark annual land
d9Wshs_hYyM-00519-00170452-00170792 fertility rituals of Buddhist kings a
d9Wshs_hYyM-00520-00170793-00171132 small Brahmanical temple deviseth an
d9Wshs_hYyM-00521-00171133-00171543 established in 1784 by king rama the
d9Wshs_hYyM-00522-00171544-00171828 first of thailand has been managed by
d9Wshs_hYyM-00523-00171829-00172227 ethnically Thai Brahmins ever since the
d9Wshs_hYyM-00524-00172228-00172548 temple hosts phra thigh honey Chien
d9Wshs_hYyM-00525-00172549-00173151 Ganesha phra narai Narayana Vishnu phra
d9Wshs_hYyM-00526-00173152-00173586 it Sawan Shiva uma Brahma Indra Sokka
d9Wshs_hYyM-00527-00173587-00173973 and other Hindu deities the tradition
d9Wshs_hYyM-00528-00173974-00174198 asserts that the Thai Brahmins have
d9Wshs_hYyM-00529-00174199-00174528 roots in Hindu holy city of Varanasi and
d9Wshs_hYyM-00530-00174529-00174819 southern state of Tamil Nadu go by the
d9Wshs_hYyM-00531-00174820-00175104 title pandita and the various annual
d9Wshs_hYyM-00532-00175105-00175386 rights and state ceremonies they conduct
d9Wshs_hYyM-00533-00175387-00175602 has been a blend of Buddhist and Hindu
d9Wshs_hYyM-00534-00175603-00176037 rituals the coronation ceremony of the
d9Wshs_hYyM-00535-00176038-00176346 Thai king is almost entirely conducted
d9Wshs_hYyM-00536-00176347-00177033 by the Royal Brahmins
d9Wshs_hYyM-00537-00177034-00177595 topic see also
d9Wshs_hYyM-00538-00177596-00177998 equals equals notes
duomKz_i8tM-00000-00000028-00000330 James Sheridan Knowles the 12th of May
duomKz_i8tM-00001-00000331-00000749 1784 to the 30th of November 1862 was an
duomKz_i8tM-00002-00000750-00001490 Irish dramatist an actor topic
duomKz_i8tM-00003-00001491-00002171 biography Knowles was born in Cork his
duomKz_i8tM-00004-00002172-00002372 father was the lexicographer James
duomKz_i8tM-00005-00002373-00002789 Knowles 1759 to 1840 cousin of Richard
duomKz_i8tM-00006-00002790-00003067 Brinsley Sheridan the family moved to
duomKz_i8tM-00007-00003068-00003395 London in 1793 and at the age of 14
duomKz_i8tM-00008-00003396-00003604 Knowles published a ballad entitled the
duomKz_i8tM-00009-00003605-00003860 Welsh Harbor which set to music was very
duomKz_i8tM-00010-00003861-00004127 popular his talents secured him the
duomKz_i8tM-00011-00004128-00004316 friendship of William Hazlitt who
duomKz_i8tM-00012-00004317-00004499 introduced him to Charles lamb and
duomKz_i8tM-00013-00004500-00004795 samuel taylor coleridge he served for
duomKz_i8tM-00014-00004796-00004945 some time in the Wiltshire and
duomKz_i8tM-00015-00004946-00005138 afterwards in the Tower Hamlets militia
duomKz_i8tM-00016-00005139-00005372 leaving the service to become a pupil of
duomKz_i8tM-00017-00005373-00005788 dr. Robert willin 1757 to 1812 he
duomKz_i8tM-00018-00005789-00006047 obtained the degree of MD and was
duomKz_i8tM-00019-00006048-00006251 appointed vaccinator to the genera in
duomKz_i8tM-00020-00006252-00006488 society although dr. Whelan offered him
duomKz_i8tM-00021-00006489-00006734 a share in his practice Knowles decided
duomKz_i8tM-00022-00006734-00006953 to give up medicine for the stage making
duomKz_i8tM-00023-00006954-00007117 his first appearance as an actor
duomKz_i8tM-00024-00007118-00007339 probably a bath and played Hamlet at the
duomKz_i8tM-00025-00007340-00007567 crow Theatre Dublin at Wexford he
duomKz_i8tM-00026-00007568-00007889 married in October 1809 Maria Charteris
duomKz_i8tM-00027-00007890-00008164 an actress from the Edinburgh Theatre in
duomKz_i8tM-00028-00008165-00008471 1810 he wrote Leo a successful play in
duomKz_i8tM-00029-00008472-00008684 which edmund kean appeared another play
duomKz_i8tM-00030-00008685-00008860 Bryan Burrough him written for the
duomKz_i8tM-00031-00008861-00009044 Belfast theatre in the next year
duomKz_i8tM-00032-00009045-00009305 attracted crowds nevertheless Knowles's
duomKz_i8tM-00033-00009306-00009464 earnings were so small that he was
duomKz_i8tM-00034-00009465-00009635 obliged to become assistant to his
duomKz_i8tM-00035-00009636-00009805 father at the Belfast Academical
duomKz_i8tM-00036-00009806-00010184 institution in 1817 he moved from
duomKz_i8tM-00037-00010185-00010448 Belfast to Glasgow where besides keeping
duomKz_i8tM-00038-00010449-00010649 a flourishing school he continued to
duomKz_i8tM-00039-00010650-00010877 write for the stage his first important
duomKz_i8tM-00040-00010878-00011108 success was Kees grakkus produced at
duomKz_i8tM-00041-00011109-00011387 Belfast in 1815 and his Virginia's
duomKz_i8tM-00042-00011388-00011617 written for William Charles McCready was
duomKz_i8tM-00043-00011618-00011881 first performed in 1820 at Covent Garden
duomKz_i8tM-00044-00011882-00012274 in William Tell 1825 Knowles wrote for
duomKz_i8tM-00045-00012275-00012578 McCready one of his favorite parts his
duomKz_i8tM-00046-00012579-00012781 best-known play the hunchback was
duomKz_i8tM-00047-00012782-00013058 produced at Covent Garden in 1832 and
duomKz_i8tM-00048-00013059-00013268 moles won praise acting in the work as
duomKz_i8tM-00049-00013269-00013382 master while
duomKz_i8tM-00050-00013383-00013597 the wife was brought out at the same
duomKz_i8tM-00051-00013599-00013906 Theatre in 1833 and the love chase in
duomKz_i8tM-00052-00013907-00014194 1837 in his later years he forsook the
duomKz_i8tM-00053-00014196-00014402 stage for the pulpit and as a Baptist
duomKz_i8tM-00054-00014403-00014624 preacher attracted large audiences at
duomKz_i8tM-00055-00014625-00014903 Exeter Hall and elsewhere he published
duomKz_i8tM-00056-00014904-00015134 two polemical works the rock of Rome and
duomKz_i8tM-00057-00015135-00015347 the idle demolished by its own priests
duomKz_i8tM-00058-00015347-00015506 in both of which he combatted the
duomKz_i8tM-00059-00015507-00015677 special doctrines of the Roman Catholic
duomKz_i8tM-00060-00015678-00015994 Church Knowles was for some years in the
duomKz_i8tM-00061-00015996-00016213 receipt of an annual pension of 200
duomKz_i8tM-00062-00016215-00016459 pounds bestowed by Sir Robert Peel in
duomKz_i8tM-00063-00016460-00016838 18-49 in old age he befriended the young
duomKz_i8tM-00064-00016839-00017039 Edmund Gosse whom he introduced to
duomKz_i8tM-00065-00017040-00017285 Shakespeare Knowles makes a happy
duomKz_i8tM-00066-00017286-00017534 appearance in Gauss's father and son he
duomKz_i8tM-00067-00017535-00017752 died at Torquay on the 30th of November
duomKz_i8tM-00068-00017753-00018152 1862 he is buried under a huge tomb at
duomKz_i8tM-00069-00018153-00018826 the summit of the Glasgow necropolis
duomKz_i8tM-00070-00018827-00019517 topic biography a full list of the works
duomKz_i8tM-00071-00019518-00019744 of Knowles and of the various notices of
duomKz_i8tM-00072-00019745-00019928 him will be found in the life of James
duomKz_i8tM-00073-00019929-00020249 Sheridan Knowles 1872 privately printed
duomKz_i8tM-00074-00020250-00020569 by his son Richard Brinsley Knowles 1820
duomKz_i8tM-00075-00020570-00020807 to 1882 who was well known as a
duomKz_i8tM-00076-00020808-00021583 journalist it was translated into German
duomKz_i8tM-00077-00021584-00022416 topic works
duomKz_i8tM-00078-00022417-00023311 topic plays Leo author gypsy 1810 Bryan
duomKz_i8tM-00079-00023312-00023616 Burrough I ought the made of air in 1811
duomKz_i8tM-00080-00023617-00024180 Cleese grakkus 1815 Virginia's 1820 a
duomKz_i8tM-00081-00024181-00024663 tragedy in five acts William Tell 1825
duomKz_i8tM-00082-00024664-00024933 The Beggar's daughter of Bethnal Green
duomKz_i8tM-00083-00024934-00025333 1828 alfred the great or the patriot
duomKz_i8tM-00084-00025334-00025971 King 1831 the Hunchback 1832 a mask in
duomKz_i8tM-00085-00025972-00026167 one act an inverse on the death of Sir
duomKz_i8tM-00086-00026168-00026587 Walter Scott 1832 the wife a tale of
duomKz_i8tM-00087-00026588-00027051 Mantova 1833 the beggar of bethnal green
duomKz_i8tM-00088-00027052-00027677 1834 the daughter 1837 the love chase
duomKz_i8tM-00089-00027678-00028254 1837 woman's wit or loves disguises 1838
duomKz_i8tM-00090-00028255-00028899 the maid of Marion daubed 1838 love 1839
duomKz_i8tM-00091-00028900-00029176 John of procedure ought the bridles of
duomKz_i8tM-00092-00029177-00029790 Messina 1840 old maids 1841 the Rose of
duomKz_i8tM-00093-00029791-00030445 Aragon 1842 the secretary 1843 the
duomKz_i8tM-00094-00030445-00030754 bridal 1847 and adaptation of the maids
duomKz_i8tM-00095-00030755-00031643 tragedy Alexina or true unto death 1866
duomKz_i8tM-00096-00031644-00032243 topic novels and short stories the
duomKz_i8tM-00097-00032244-00032760 Magdalene and other tales 1832 Fortescue
duomKz_i8tM-00098-00032761-00033389 1847 George Lovell 1852 old adventures
duomKz_i8tM-00099-00033390-00034473 1859 tails and novelettes etc 1874 topic
duomKz_i8tM-00100-00034474-00034943 poetry
duomKz_i8tM-00101-00034944-00035317 action of poems on various subjects 1810
duomKz_i8tM-00102-00035318-00035717 fugitive pieces the Senate or social
duomKz_i8tM-00103-00035718-00036430 villages of kentish town a canto 1817
duomKz_i8tM-00104-00036431-00037107 topic theological writings the rock of
duomKz_i8tM-00105-00037108-00037526 Rome ought the arch heresy 18-49 the I
duomKz_i8tM-00106-00037527-00037826 adore demolished by its own priest 1852
duomKz_i8tM-00107-00037827-00038061 an answer to Cardinal Wiseman's lectures
duomKz_i8tM-00108-00038062-00038448 on transubstantiation the gospel
duomKz_i8tM-00109-00038449-00038636 attributed to Matthew in the record of
duomKz_i8tM-00110-00038637-00039305 the whole original apostle hood 1855
duomKz_i8tM-00111-00039306-00040092 topic nonfiction the elocutionist 1831 a
duomKz_i8tM-00112-00040093-00040280 collection of pieces in prose and verse
duomKz_i8tM-00113-00040281-00040542 peculiarly adapted to display the art of
duomKz_i8tM-00114-00040543-00040979 reading a treatise on the climate of
duomKz_i8tM-00115-00040980-00041548 Madeira 1850 the debaters handbook 1862
duomKz_i8tM-00116-00041549-00042087 lectures on dramatic literature 1875
dvggnoqlX_4-00000-00000019-00000340 this article comprises three suitable
dvggnoqlX_4-00001-00000341-00000557 tables of major mountain peaks of the
dvggnoqlX_4-00002-00000558-00000808 nation of Greenland killall at non-art
dvggnoqlX_4-00003-00000809-00001091 kilala ton art includes the island of
dvggnoqlX_4-00004-00001092-00001429 Greenland and surrounding islands the
dvggnoqlX_4-00005-00001430-00001609 summit of a mountain or Hill may be
dvggnoqlX_4-00006-00001610-00001951 measured in three principal ways the
dvggnoqlX_4-00007-00001952-00002147 topographic elevation of a summit
dvggnoqlX_4-00008-00002148-00002330 measures the height of the summit above
dvggnoqlX_4-00009-00002331-00002650 a geodetic sea level the first table
dvggnoqlX_4-00010-00002651-00002908 below ranks the 40 highest major summits
dvggnoqlX_4-00011-00002909-00003206 of Greenland by elevation the
dvggnoqlX_4-00012-00003207-00003419 topographic prominence of a summit is a
dvggnoqlX_4-00013-00003420-00003626 measure of how high the summit rises
dvggnoqlX_4-00014-00003627-00003935 above its surroundings the second table
dvggnoqlX_4-00015-00003936-00004169 below ranks the 40 most prominent
dvggnoqlX_4-00016-00004170-00004493 summits of Greenland the topographic
dvggnoqlX_4-00017-00004494-00004751 isolation or radius of dominance of a
dvggnoqlX_4-00018-00004752-00004961 summit measures how far the summit lies
dvggnoqlX_4-00019-00004962-00005143 from its nearest point of equal
dvggnoqlX_4-00020-00005144-00005468 elevation the third table below ranks
dvggnoqlX_4-00021-00005469-00005726 the 40 most isolated major summits of
dvggnoqlX_4-00022-00005727-00006308 Greenland
dvggnoqlX_4-00023-00006309-00006925 topic highest major summits
dvggnoqlX_4-00024-00006926-00007138 of the highest major summits of
dvggnoqlX_4-00025-00007139-00007447 Greenland four peaks exceed 3,000 meters
dvggnoqlX_4-00026-00007448-00007669 nine thousand eight hundred and forty
dvggnoqlX_4-00027-00007670-00007897 three feet elevation and twenty-four
dvggnoqlX_4-00028-00007898-00008125 Peaks equal or exceed two thousand
dvggnoqlX_4-00029-00008126-00008356 meters six thousand five hundred and
dvggnoqlX_4-00030-00008357-00009076 sixty two feet elevation
dvggnoqlX_4-00031-00009077-00009699 topic most prominent summits
dvggnoqlX_4-00032-00009700-00009909 of the most prominent summits of
dvggnoqlX_4-00033-00009910-00010161 Greenland only gun B&F jelled exceeds
dvggnoqlX_4-00034-00010162-00010443 3000 metres nine thousand eight hundred
dvggnoqlX_4-00035-00010444-00010689 and forty-three feet of topographic
dvggnoqlX_4-00036-00010690-00011049 prominence six Peaks exceed two thousand
dvggnoqlX_4-00037-00011050-00011280 meters six thousand five hundred and
dvggnoqlX_4-00038-00011281-00011517 sixty two feet and thirty-eight peaks
dvggnoqlX_4-00039-00011518-00011703 are ultra prominent summits with at
dvggnoqlX_4-00040-00011704-00012030 least 1500 meters four thousand nine
dvggnoqlX_4-00041-00012031-00012234 hundred and twenty-one feet of
dvggnoqlX_4-00042-00012235-00012913 topographic prominence
dvggnoqlX_4-00043-00012913-00013608 topic most isolated major summits
dvggnoqlX_4-00044-00013609-00013875 of the most isolated major summits of
dvggnoqlX_4-00045-00013876-00014136 Greenland only gun B&F jelled exceeds
dvggnoqlX_4-00046-00014137-00014597 3000 kilometres 1864 miles of
dvggnoqlX_4-00047-00014598-00014961 topographic isolation four peaks exceed
dvggnoqlX_4-00048-00014962-00015240 500 kilometers three hundred and ten
dvggnoqlX_4-00049-00015241-00015465 point seven miles of topographic
dvggnoqlX_4-00050-00015466-00015830 isolation 13 peaks exceed 200 kilometers
dvggnoqlX_4-00051-00015831-00016041 one hundred and twenty four point three
dvggnoqlX_4-00052-00016041-00016374 miles and twenty-one Peaks exceed 100
dvggnoqlX_4-00053-00016375-00016635 kilometers sixty two point one four
dvggnoqlX_4-00054-00016636-00017390 miles of topographic isolation
dvggnoqlX_4-00055-00017391-00017910 topic gallery
dvggnoqlX_4-00056-00017911-00018077 you
dvggnoqlX_4-00057-00018078-00018285 you
dvggnoqlX_4-00058-00018286-00018828 topic see also
dvggnoqlX_4-00059-00018829-00019144 list of mountain peaks of North America
dvggnoqlX_4-00060-00019145-00019560 list of mountain peaks of Greenland list
dvggnoqlX_4-00061-00019561-00019736 of the ultra prominent summits of
dvggnoqlX_4-00062-00019737-00020052 Greenland list of mountain peaks of
dvggnoqlX_4-00063-00020053-00020364 Canada list of mountain peaks of the
dvggnoqlX_4-00064-00020365-00020516 Rocky Mountains
dvggnoqlX_4-00065-00020517-00020799 list of mountain peaks of the United
dvggnoqlX_4-00066-00020800-00021214 States list of mountain peaks of Mexico
dvggnoqlX_4-00067-00021215-00021480 list of mountain peaks of Central
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dvle_-HBcm0-00000-00000041-00000281 mundane science-fiction is a sub-genre
dvle_-HBcm0-00001-00000282-00000478 of hard science fiction which is
dvle_-HBcm0-00002-00000479-00000676 characterized by its setting on earth or
dvle_-HBcm0-00003-00000677-00000848 within the solar system and a lack of
dvle_-HBcm0-00004-00000849-00001075 interstellar travel intergalactic travel
dvle_-HBcm0-00005-00001076-00001773 or human contact with extraterrestrials
dvle_-HBcm0-00006-00001775-00002372 topic history the mundane
dvle_-HBcm0-00007-00002373-00002593 science-fiction movement inspired by an
dvle_-HBcm0-00008-00002594-00002882 idea of Julian Todd was founded in 2004
dvle_-HBcm0-00009-00002883-00003074 during the clarion workshop by novelist
dvle_-HBcm0-00010-00003075-00003356 Jeff Ryman among others the beliefs of
dvle_-HBcm0-00011-00003357-00003536 the movement were later codified as the
dvle_-HBcm0-00012-00003536-00003776 mundane manifesto Raymond has contrasted
dvle_-HBcm0-00013-00003777-00003947 mundane science fiction with most
dvle_-HBcm0-00014-00003947-00004127 science fiction through the desire of
dvle_-HBcm0-00015-00004128-00004347 teenagers to leave their parents homes
dvle_-HBcm0-00016-00004348-00004606 Ryman sees too much of regular science
dvle_-HBcm0-00017-00004607-00004861 fiction being based on an adolescent
dvle_-HBcm0-00018-00004862-00005070 desire to run away from our world
dvle_-HBcm0-00019-00005071-00005351 however rhymin notes that humans are not
dvle_-HBcm0-00020-00005352-00005525 truly considered grown-up until they
dvle_-HBcm0-00021-00005526-00005827 create a new home of their own which is
dvle_-HBcm0-00022-00005828-00006502 what mundane science fiction aims to do
dvle_-HBcm0-00023-00006503-00007198 topic characteristics mundane science
dvle_-HBcm0-00024-00007200-00007417 fiction focuses on stories set on or
dvle_-HBcm0-00025-00007418-00007603 near the earth with a believable use of
dvle_-HBcm0-00026-00007604-00007805 technology and science as it exists at
dvle_-HBcm0-00027-00007806-00008059 the time the story is written it rarely
dvle_-HBcm0-00028-00008061-00008231 involves interstellar travel or
dvle_-HBcm0-00029-00008232-00008446 communication with alien civilization
dvle_-HBcm0-00030-00008447-00008663 the genres writers believe that warp
dvle_-HBcm0-00031-00008664-00008873 drives the use of wormholes and other
dvle_-HBcm0-00032-00008874-00009053 forms of faster than light travel our
dvle_-HBcm0-00033-00009054-00009274 scientific fantasies rather than serious
dvle_-HBcm0-00034-00009275-00009487 speculation about a possible future
dvle_-HBcm0-00035-00009488-00009698 according to them unfounded speculation
dvle_-HBcm0-00036-00009699-00009949 about interstellar travel can lead to an
dvle_-HBcm0-00037-00009950-00010130 illusion of a universe abundant with
dvle_-HBcm0-00038-00010131-00010321 planets as hospitable to life as Earth
dvle_-HBcm0-00039-00010322-00010538 which encourages wasteful attitude to
dvle_-HBcm0-00040-00010539-00010733 the abundance on earth scientists have
dvle_-HBcm0-00041-00010734-00010867 not uncovered any evidence of
dvle_-HBcm0-00042-00010868-00011024 intelligent life elsewhere in the
dvle_-HBcm0-00043-00011025-00011088 universe
dvle_-HBcm0-00044-00011089-00011306 although absence of evidence is not
dvle_-HBcm0-00045-00011307-00011552 necessarily evidence of absence mundane
dvle_-HBcm0-00046-00011553-00011735 science fiction writers believe it's
dvle_-HBcm0-00047-00011736-00011920 unlikely that alien intelligence will
dvle_-HBcm0-00048-00011921-00012092 overcome the physical constraints on
dvle_-HBcm0-00049-00012093-00012269 interstellar travel any better than we
dvle_-HBcm0-00050-00012270-00012566 can as such mundane science fiction
dvle_-HBcm0-00051-00012567-00012755 writers imagine a future on earth and
dvle_-HBcm0-00052-00012756-00012932 within the solar system and believe it's
dvle_-HBcm0-00053-00012933-00013096 highly unlikely that intelligent life
dvle_-HBcm0-00054-00013097-00013378 survives elsewhere in this solar system
dvle_-HBcm0-00055-00013379-00013652 alternative universes parallel worlds
dvle_-HBcm0-00056-00013653-00013877 magic in the supernatural time travel
dvle_-HBcm0-00057-00013878-00014084 and teleportation are similarly avoided
dvle_-HBcm0-00058-00014085-00014827 in mundane science fiction topic
dvle_-HBcm0-00059-00014828-00015482 publications in 2007 the magazine
dvle_-HBcm0-00060-00015483-00015656 Interzone devoted an issue to the
dvle_-HBcm0-00061-00015657-00015893 sub-genre the 2009 short story
dvle_-HBcm0-00062-00015894-00016109 collection when it changed science into
dvle_-HBcm0-00063-00016110-00016325 fiction edited by Ryman is a collection
dvle_-HBcm0-00064-00016326-00016541 of mundane science fiction stories each
dvle_-HBcm0-00065-00016542-00016736 written by a science fiction author with
dvle_-HBcm0-00066-00016737-00016943 advice from a scientist and with an end
dvle_-HBcm0-00067-00016944-00017123 note by that scientist explaining the
dvle_-HBcm0-00068-00017124-00017324 plausibility of the story a review of
dvle_-HBcm0-00069-00017325-00017582 the 1992 novel China Mountain Jiang
dvle_-HBcm0-00070-00017583-00017756 noted that the story's world while
dvle_-HBcm0-00071-00017757-00018421 different felt ordinary and believable
dvle_-HBcm0-00072-00018422-00019295 topic see also art manifesto
dvcmlkBto0Y-00001-00013480-00013669 do
dvcmlkBto0Y-00003-00021823-00022450 do
dvcmlkBto0Y-00005-00025847-00026563 so
dvcmlkBto0Y-00007-00030247-00031917 do
dvcmlkBto0Y-00009-00049663-00049872 you
dw8LOmSq0xY-00000-00000071-00000992 [Music]
dw8LOmSq0xY-00001-00000993-00001304 so it's mango season so we wanted to do
dw8LOmSq0xY-00002-00001305-00001566 a quick video to introduce the season
dw8LOmSq0xY-00003-00001567-00001770 and also if you've never been here
dw8LOmSq0xY-00004-00001771-00001932 before there are a few things you should
dw8LOmSq0xY-00005-00001932-00002337 know first off this is our front gate it
dw8LOmSq0xY-00006-00002338-00002607 says we're open Saturdays 9 a.m. to noon
dw8LOmSq0xY-00007-00002608-00002904 which is true all year round
dw8LOmSq0xY-00008-00002905-00003171 during mango season we usually add an
dw8LOmSq0xY-00009-00003172-00003536 hour or two during the week right now
dw8LOmSq0xY-00010-00003537-00003881 it's Wednesday from 4 to 5 check our
dw8LOmSq0xY-00011-00003882-00004232 schedule at the mango place calm anyway
dw8LOmSq0xY-00012-00004233-00004970 as you come in the driveway this gate
dw8LOmSq0xY-00013-00004971-00005228 will be open if it's closed we are
dw8LOmSq0xY-00014-00005229-00005625 closed so with the gate open I depends
dw8LOmSq0xY-00015-00005626-00005930 on how many people are here but you can
dw8LOmSq0xY-00016-00005931-00006197 park on either side of the driveway the
dw8LOmSq0xY-00017-00006198-00006431 closer to the house you can park the
dw8LOmSq0xY-00018-00006433-00006645 better as far as not having to walk so
dw8LOmSq0xY-00019-00006645-00006972 much you are also welcome to park along
dw8LOmSq0xY-00020-00006973-00007256 the street and just walk all the way up
dw8LOmSq0xY-00021-00007258-00007581 it's not that far I just make that
dw8LOmSq0xY-00022-00007581-00007848 decision as you feet see fit because
dw8LOmSq0xY-00023-00007848-00008100 sometimes there are a lot of cars here
dw8LOmSq0xY-00024-00008101-00008481 so as you're driving down the driveway
dw8LOmSq0xY-00025-00008482-00008808 you might think oh this reminds me of my
dw8LOmSq0xY-00026-00008809-00009075 grandfather's farm or this reminds me of
dw8LOmSq0xY-00027-00009076-00009480 a park or something like that I please
dw8LOmSq0xY-00028-00009481-00009825 keep in mind there is no walking in the
dw8LOmSq0xY-00029-00009826-00010194 grove and there's no picking your own
dw8LOmSq0xY-00030-00010195-00010566 fruit we pick it all we have 80
dw8LOmSq0xY-00031-00010567-00010806 varieties of mangoes there's just no way
dw8LOmSq0xY-00032-00010807-00011079 anyone who's not familiar with every
dw8LOmSq0xY-00033-00011080-00011286 variety would know when it's ready to
dw8LOmSq0xY-00034-00011287-00011619 pick also we cannot deal with the chaos
dw8LOmSq0xY-00035-00011620-00011853 of people walking in the grove so no
dw8LOmSq0xY-00036-00011854-00012099 walking in the grove if you want to pick
dw8LOmSq0xY-00037-00012100-00012429 your own fruit or walk in the grove
dw8LOmSq0xY-00038-00012430-00012774 we have mango tours available just sign
dw8LOmSq0xY-00039-00012775-00013105 up for them on the mango place calm
dw8LOmSq0xY-00040-00013106-00013437 so after you parked your car you head to
dw8LOmSq0xY-00041-00013438-00013677 this path it leads to the fruit that's
dw8LOmSq0xY-00042-00013678-00014575 in the breezeway
dw8LOmSq0xY-00043-00014576-00014929 we are located in Delray Beach Florida
dw8LOmSq0xY-00044-00014930-00015290 we are actually east of i-95 and of
dw8LOmSq0xY-00045-00015291-00015533 course the turnpike just get off at the
dw8LOmSq0xY-00046-00015534-00015812 wolf right exit in Boynton and we are
dw8LOmSq0xY-00047-00015813-00016219 just two miles south of that as far as
dw8LOmSq0xY-00048-00016221-00016454 getting your bearings whereas Delray
dw8LOmSq0xY-00049-00016455-00016762 Beach Delray Beach is about 30 minutes
dw8LOmSq0xY-00050-00016763-00017147 south of West Palm Beach and about an
dw8LOmSq0xY-00051-00017148-00017746 hour north of Miami
dw8LOmSq0xY-00052-00017747-00018364 so including the house the farm is just
dw8LOmSq0xY-00053-00018365-00018641 about five acres it's sometimes
dw8LOmSq0xY-00054-00018642-00018944 deceiving how large it is because the
dw8LOmSq0xY-00055-00018945-00019193 house is set back on the property and
dw8LOmSq0xY-00056-00019194-00019418 there's just a whole lot of mango trees
dw8LOmSq0xY-00057-00019419-00019669 that you see on your way to the house
dw8LOmSq0xY-00058-00019670-00020425 but just under five acres
dw8LOmSq0xY-00059-00020426-00020899 we actually only sell to the public hi
dw8LOmSq0xY-00060-00020900-00021200 everybody comes to the farm to buy the
dw8LOmSq0xY-00061-00021201-00021560 fruit and you know we're open more
dw8LOmSq0xY-00062-00021561-00021880 during the mango season than we are the
dw8LOmSq0xY-00063-00021881-00022105 rest of the year so hopefully everyone
dw8LOmSq0xY-00064-00022106-00022447 can make it during some of those hours
dw8LOmSq0xY-00065-00022448-00022721 that were open we are not open all the
dw8LOmSq0xY-00066-00022722-00022988 time you know a lot of people are used
dw8LOmSq0xY-00067-00022989-00023177 to going to a grocery store that's open
dw8LOmSq0xY-00068-00023178-00023380 you know from early in the morning to
dw8LOmSq0xY-00069-00023381-00023669 late in the evening but we are only open
dw8LOmSq0xY-00070-00023670-00023915 certain times on certain days because we
dw8LOmSq0xY-00071-00023916-00024169 have a lot of work to do to actually
dw8LOmSq0xY-00072-00024170-00024410 pick the fruit and keep the Grove in
dw8LOmSq0xY-00073-00024411-00024700 order so we pick all the fruit and then
dw8LOmSq0xY-00074-00024701-00024997 it's available for these periods of time
dw8LOmSq0xY-00075-00024998-00025277 three hours on on Saturday morning and
dw8LOmSq0xY-00076-00025278-00025442 then a couple other times during the
dw8LOmSq0xY-00077-00025443-00025889 week
dw8LOmSq0xY-00078-00025891-00026248 we grow a lot of things on this property
dw8LOmSq0xY-00079-00026249-00026692 we have more than 250 mango trees 80
dw8LOmSq0xY-00080-00026693-00027045 varieties of all the tropical fruit that
dw8LOmSq0xY-00081-00027047-00027364 we grow about 90 percent or more is
dw8LOmSq0xY-00082-00027364-00027880 mangoes and so there's plenty to fall in
dw8LOmSq0xY-00083-00027881-00028135 love with in the world of mangoes in
dw8LOmSq0xY-00084-00028136-00028393 addition to that if we have a good cold
dw8LOmSq0xY-00085-00028394-00028687 winter we will have lychee and then we
dw8LOmSq0xY-00086-00028688-00028936 grow long in and other things that we
dw8LOmSq0xY-00087-00028937-00029320 grow include avocado caimito or star
dw8LOmSq0xY-00088-00029320-00029512 apple it's Sapodilla
dw8LOmSq0xY-00089-00029513-00029913 can Estelle and occasionally papaya
dw8LOmSq0xY-00090-00029914-00030260 jabuticaba
dw8LOmSq0xY-00091-00030261-00031316 [Music]
dw8LOmSq0xY-00092-00031317-00031786 [Music]
dw8LOmSq0xY-00093-00031787-00032198 so whatever we sell is what we have
dw8LOmSq0xY-00094-00032199-00032426 grown ourselves and we don't believe in
dw8LOmSq0xY-00095-00032427-00032636 the nasty chemicals we try and grow
dw8LOmSq0xY-00096-00032637-00032918 everything organically our potted plants
dw8LOmSq0xY-00097-00032919-00033107 are not grown organically because it's
dw8LOmSq0xY-00098-00033108-00033395 hard to provide the nutrients to those
dw8LOmSq0xY-00099-00033396-00033782 plants I in a small area but everything
dw8LOmSq0xY-00100-00033783-00034001 else we do not use conventional
dw8LOmSq0xY-00101-00034002-00034373 pesticides or fungicides we use the ones
dw8LOmSq0xY-00102-00034374-00034631 that are approved for organic use we are
dw8LOmSq0xY-00103-00034632-00035048 not organically certified we barely have
dw8LOmSq0xY-00104-00035049-00035249 time to do the other work on the farm
dw8LOmSq0xY-00105-00035250-00035420 with picking and getting everything
dw8LOmSq0xY-00106-00035421-00035773 trimmed and to get organically certified
dw8LOmSq0xY-00107-00035774-00036146 requires more paperwork than I am
dw8LOmSq0xY-00108-00036147-00036290 willing to do so
dw8LOmSq0xY-00109-00036291-00036475 it's organically grown but not
dw8LOmSq0xY-00110-00036476-00037158 organically certified
dw8LOmSq0xY-00111-00037159-00037465 so almost all the fruit that we sell is
dw8LOmSq0xY-00112-00037466-00037904 by the pound so you put the fruit that
dw8LOmSq0xY-00113-00037905-00038164 you're interested in in a bag if you can
dw8LOmSq0xY-00114-00038165-00038362 bring your own bag that's great we love
dw8LOmSq0xY-00115-00038363-00038599 it when people reuse bags have reusable
dw8LOmSq0xY-00116-00038600-00038954 bags and totes and if it's a heavier one
dw8LOmSq0xY-00117-00038955-00039136 just have us weigh it ahead of time and
dw8LOmSq0xY-00118-00039137-00039383 so that we can deduct that weight but
dw8LOmSq0xY-00119-00039384-00039670 anyway you load up bags by the price per
dw8LOmSq0xY-00120-00039671-00040012 pound we often will have a lot of $3.00
dw8LOmSq0xY-00121-00040013-00040310 per pound bang goes we also have $2 per
dw8LOmSq0xY-00122-00040311-00040685 pound mangoes and then some drops and
dw8LOmSq0xY-00123-00040686-00040955 such that our $1 a pound so you just
dw8LOmSq0xY-00124-00040956-00041170 keep those different price points in
dw8LOmSq0xY-00125-00041171-00041767 different bags
dw8LOmSq0xY-00126-00041768-00042172 well once again you can't pick your own
dw8LOmSq0xY-00127-00042173-00042448 fruit unless you sign up for a fruit
dw8LOmSq0xY-00128-00042449-00042748 picking tour we have a lot of varieties
dw8LOmSq0xY-00129-00042749-00043126 I know that people love to pick their
dw8LOmSq0xY-00130-00043127-00043372 own fruit but with all the varieties
dw8LOmSq0xY-00131-00043373-00043573 that we have you really need guidance
dw8LOmSq0xY-00132-00043574-00043861 and no you are not allowed to walk in
dw8LOmSq0xY-00133-00043862-00044191 the grove by yourself so if you want to
dw8LOmSq0xY-00134-00044192-00044464 walk into the Grove and or pick your own
dw8LOmSq0xY-00135-00044465-00044707 fruit sign up for a fruit picking tour
dw8LOmSq0xY-00136-00044708-00045127 on the mango place calm so if you do
dw8LOmSq0xY-00137-00045128-00045460 want to look a little bit you are able
dw8LOmSq0xY-00138-00045461-00045850 to walk on the driveway so the black
dw8LOmSq0xY-00139-00045851-00046267 driveway not the the rock driveway that
dw8LOmSq0xY-00140-00046268-00046546 goes back to never Neverland stay on the
dw8LOmSq0xY-00141-00046547-00046819 paved surface and you can look at the
dw8LOmSq0xY-00142-00046820-00047092 trees from there on either side of the
dw8LOmSq0xY-00143-00047093-00047551 driveway
dw8LOmSq0xY-00144-00047552-00047852 so you might have noticed our dogs in
dw8LOmSq0xY-00145-00047853-00048407 videos and yes they are out a lot but we
dw8LOmSq0xY-00146-00048408-00048722 put them inside during hours because
dw8LOmSq0xY-00147-00048723-00048929 some of our customers are uncomfortable
dw8LOmSq0xY-00148-00048930-00049426 around dogs
dw8LOmSq0xY-00149-00049427-00049835 so most people are really interested in
dw8LOmSq0xY-00150-00049836-00050093 our mangas and so of course mango season
dw8LOmSq0xY-00151-00050094-00050414 is when most people visit Saturday is
dw8LOmSq0xY-00152-00050415-00050759 our busiest time if you don't want the
dw8LOmSq0xY-00153-00050760-00051002 crowds try to come during the week it's
dw8LOmSq0xY-00154-00051003-00051226 far less busy than on Saturday morning
dw8LOmSq0xY-00155-00051227-00051620 we have fruit almost every week of the
dw8LOmSq0xY-00156-00051621-00051899 year we're open Saturday mornings all
dw8LOmSq0xY-00157-00051900-00052019 year long
dw8LOmSq0xY-00158-00052020-00052334 so if you're in town you want to see
dw8LOmSq0xY-00159-00052335-00052514 what fruit we have of course you can
dw8LOmSq0xY-00160-00052515-00052745 check our website the Bango plays calm
dw8LOmSq0xY-00161-00052746-00053054 or you can stop by on Saturday morning
dw8LOmSq0xY-00162-00053054-00053336 and see what we have available try to
dw8LOmSq0xY-00163-00053337-00053629 just gauge your visits to when the fruit
dw8LOmSq0xY-00164-00053630-00053924 you love is available so I hope that
dw8LOmSq0xY-00165-00053925-00054170 gave you some idea of how things work
dw8LOmSq0xY-00166-00054171-00054419 here at truly tropical we've picked a
dw8LOmSq0xY-00167-00054420-00054719 lot of great mangoes and we've got lots
dw8LOmSq0xY-00168-00054720-00055001 of great mangos still on the tree so we
dw8LOmSq0xY-00169-00055002-00055475 hope to see a year this mango season
dw8LOmSq0xY-00170-00055476-00056251 [Music]
dw8LOmSq0xY-00171-00056252-00056596 [Music]
dwvXWw8js3A-00000-00000453-00001070 [Music]
dwvXWw8js3A-00001-00001071-00001247 the first randomized prospective
dwvXWw8js3A-00002-00001248-00001454 clinical evaluation of the effects of
dwvXWw8js3A-00003-00001455-00001647 fasting on chemotherapy
dwvXWw8js3A-00004-00001648-00001879 the incidence of chemotherapy induced
dwvXWw8js3A-00005-00001880-00002102 nausea and vomiting in cancer patients
dwvXWw8js3A-00006-00002103-00002487 was published in 2014 but the patients
dwvXWw8js3A-00007-00002488-00002831 were dogs cancer-bearing dogs presenting
dwvXWw8js3A-00008-00002832-00003071 at a veterinary hospital were randomized
dwvXWw8js3A-00009-00003072-00003247 to be fasted for 24 hours before
dwvXWw8js3A-00010-00003247-00003527 chemotherapy and those that were were
dwvXWw8js3A-00011-00003528-00003806 significantly less likely to suffer from
dwvXWw8js3A-00012-00003807-00004015 vomiting only one in ten compared to two
dwvXWw8js3A-00013-00004015-00004286 out of three in the non-fastid group
dwvXWw8js3A-00014-00004287-00004606 which is great but what can that tell us
dwvXWw8js3A-00015-00004607-00004854 about human medicine
dwvXWw8js3A-00016-00004855-00004967 evidently
dwvXWw8js3A-00017-00004968-00005215 not much it's nearly impossible to rely
dwvXWw8js3A-00018-00005216-00005438 on most animal data to predict whether
dwvXWw8js3A-00019-00005439-00005591 or not an intervention will have a
dwvXWw8js3A-00020-00005592-00005902 favorable clinical benefit risk ratio in
dwvXWw8js3A-00021-00005903-00006118 human subjects for example
dwvXWw8js3A-00022-00006119-00006334 mice have a metabolic rate approximately
dwvXWw8js3A-00023-00006335-00006567 seven times higher than humans so a
dwvXWw8js3A-00024-00006568-00006831 single day of fasting can cut lean body
dwvXWw8js3A-00025-00006831-00007103 mass about 15 percent
dwvXWw8js3A-00026-00007104-00007278 that would take over a month of fasting
dwvXWw8js3A-00027-00007279-00007614 in people so that dramatic study on mice
dwvXWw8js3A-00028-00007615-00007887 showing 100 alive versus 100 percent
dwvXWw8js3A-00029-00007888-00008087 dead on high-dose chemo depending on
dwvXWw8js3A-00030-00008088-00008367 whether they were faster for 60 hours
dwvXWw8js3A-00031-00008368-00008567 what can that really tell us and when it
dwvXWw8js3A-00032-00008568-00008831 comes to cancer rodents can bear massive
dwvXWw8js3A-00033-00008832-00009023 tumor loads whereas people
dwvXWw8js3A-00034-00009024-00009295 generally waste weight and die when
dwvXWw8js3A-00035-00009296-00009567 tumor masses reach just a thousandth of
dwvXWw8js3A-00036-00009568-00009719 our body weight
dwvXWw8js3A-00037-00009720-00009871 you can't even necessarily extrapolate
dwvXWw8js3A-00038-00009872-00010151 from one rat to another even within the
dwvXWw8js3A-00039-00010152-00010431 same strain bought from different
dwvXWw8js3A-00040-00010432-00010614 dealers the only way to see what happens
dwvXWw8js3A-00041-00010615-00010831 in humans the only way to guarantee
dwvXWw8js3A-00042-00010832-00011174 findings are relevant is to study people
dwvXWw8js3A-00043-00011175-00011351 the theory is that combining fasting
dwvXWw8js3A-00044-00011352-00011574 cycles with chemotherapy could extend
dwvXWw8js3A-00045-00011575-00011742 the survival of advanced stage cancer
dwvXWw8js3A-00046-00011743-00011951 patients by both returning tumor
dwvXWw8js3A-00047-00011952-00012110 progression and
dwvXWw8js3A-00048-00012111-00012295 reducing side effects
dwvXWw8js3A-00049-00012296-00012503 or even providing an alternative to
dwvXWw8js3A-00050-00012504-00012742 chemotherapy altogether in early stage
dwvXWw8js3A-00051-00012743-00012943 cancer patients but that's all
dwvXWw8js3A-00052-00012944-00013263 contingent on it being confirmed in
dwvXWw8js3A-00053-00013263-00013527 human clinical trials first
dwvXWw8js3A-00054-00013528-00013703 there were k-series several patients
dwvXWw8js3A-00055-00013704-00013919 diagnosed with a variety of cancers
dwvXWw8js3A-00056-00013919-00014166 elected to undertake fasting prior to
dwvXWw8js3A-00057-00014168-00014319 chemotherapy and shared their
dwvXWw8js3A-00058-00014319-00014558 experiences those who underwent chemo
dwvXWw8js3A-00059-00014559-00014822 both with and without fasting reported a
dwvXWw8js3A-00060-00014823-00014999 reduction of fatigue weakness and
dwvXWw8js3A-00061-00015000-00015207 gastrointestinal side effects while
dwvXWw8js3A-00062-00015208-00015527 fasting in fact felt better across the
dwvXWw8js3A-00063-00015528-00015758 board with zero vomiting in the fasting
dwvXWw8js3A-00064-00015759-00015838 group
dwvXWw8js3A-00065-00015840-00015975 the weight loss during the first few
dwvXWw8js3A-00066-00015976-00016175 days of fasting was rapidly recovered in
dwvXWw8js3A-00067-00016176-00016422 most of the patients and did not lead to
dwvXWw8js3A-00068-00016423-00016711 any detectable harm so overall was
dwvXWw8js3A-00069-00016712-00016863 looking feasible
dwvXWw8js3A-00070-00016864-00017119 safe with the potential to ameliorate
dwvXWw8js3A-00071-00017120-00017319 side effects but only randomized
dwvXWw8js3A-00072-00017320-00017558 clinical studies could tell for sure and
dwvXWw8js3A-00073-00017559-00017639 so
dwvXWw8js3A-00074-00017640-00017783 here we go
dwvXWw8js3A-00075-00017784-00017958 breast and ovarian cancer patients
dwvXWw8js3A-00076-00017959-00018222 fasting starting 36 hours before and
dwvXWw8js3A-00077-00018223-00018311 ending
dwvXWw8js3A-00078-00018312-00018622 24 hours after chemotherapy and it did
dwvXWw8js3A-00079-00018623-00018783 appear to improve the quality of life
dwvXWw8js3A-00080-00018784-00018903 and fatigue
dwvXWw8js3A-00081-00018904-00019127 but another study found no such
dwvXWw8js3A-00082-00019128-00019311 beneficial effects
dwvXWw8js3A-00083-00019312-00019630 there did appear to perhaps be less bone
dwvXWw8js3A-00084-00019631-00019807 marrow toxicity given the higher counts
dwvXWw8js3A-00085-00019808-00020039 of red blood cells and platelet-making
dwvXWw8js3A-00086-00020040-00020279 cells but no benefit when it came to
dwvXWw8js3A-00087-00020280-00020503 killing off white blood cells the immune
dwvXWw8js3A-00088-00020504-00020694 system cells so that was a
dwvXWw8js3A-00089-00020695-00020822 disappointment
dwvXWw8js3A-00090-00020823-00021039 perhaps they didn't fast long enough
dwvXWw8js3A-00091-00021040-00021311 they only fasted 24 hours before and
dwvXWw8js3A-00092-00021312-00021399 after
dwvXWw8js3A-00093-00021400-00021671 to find out the optimal duration 20
dwvXWw8js3A-00094-00021672-00021894 cancer patients were split up into three
dwvXWw8js3A-00095-00021895-00022103 groups fasting for 24
dwvXWw8js3A-00096-00022104-00022399 48 or a total of 72 hours
dwvXWw8js3A-00097-00022400-00022663 all those in the 24-hour group suffered
dwvXWw8js3A-00098-00022664-00022935 nausea after chemo but less than half in
dwvXWw8js3A-00099-00022936-00023239 the 72-hour group and most were vomiting
dwvXWw8js3A-00100-00023240-00023486 in the 24-hour group but none
dwvXWw8js3A-00101-00023487-00023694 in the longest fasting group longer
dwvXWw8js3A-00102-00023695-00023927 fasting groups also tend to suffer less
dwvXWw8js3A-00103-00023928-00024150 nerve damage and less serious bone
dwvXWw8js3A-00104-00024151-00024407 marrow suppression even after 24 hours
dwvXWw8js3A-00105-00024408-00024639 of fasting two cycles of chemo can knock
dwvXWw8js3A-00106-00024640-00024839 people's white blood cells down to
dwvXWw8js3A-00107-00024840-00025047 sub-optimal levels but with
dwvXWw8js3A-00108-00025048-00025303 72 hours chemo knocked their immune
dwvXWw8js3A-00109-00025304-00025463 system down
dwvXWw8js3A-00110-00025464-00025790 but not out okay so short-term fasting
dwvXWw8js3A-00111-00025791-00026078 may reduce chemotherapy induce toxicity
dwvXWw8js3A-00112-00026079-00026302 but what i want to know is if it makes
dwvXWw8js3A-00113-00026304-00026639 it work better a systematic review of 22
dwvXWw8js3A-00114-00026639-00026831 studies found that overall fasting was
dwvXWw8js3A-00115-00026832-00027007 found to not only reduce chemotherapy
dwvXWw8js3A-00116-00027008-00027174 side effects like organ damage immune
dwvXWw8js3A-00117-00027175-00027367 suppression and chemotherapy-induced
dwvXWw8js3A-00118-00027368-00027655 death but also to suppress tumor
dwvXWw8js3A-00119-00027656-00027839 progression including tumor growth and
dwvXWw8js3A-00120-00027839-00028039 metastases resulting
dwvXWw8js3A-00121-00028039-00028246 in improved survival
dwvXWw8js3A-00122-00028247-00028390 but
dwvXWw8js3A-00123-00028391-00028623 nearly all the studies were done on lab
dwvXWw8js3A-00124-00028624-00028831 animals the studies on humans are
dwvXWw8js3A-00125-00028832-00029102 limited to evaluating safety and side
dwvXWw8js3A-00126-00029104-00029295 effects the tumor suppression effects of
dwvXWw8js3A-00127-00029295-00029495 fasting for example its influence on
dwvXWw8js3A-00128-00029495-00029799 tumor growth metastases and prognosis
dwvXWw8js3A-00129-00029800-00030046 have not been evaluated
dwvXWw8js3A-00130-00030047-00030214 until now
dwvXWw8js3A-00131-00030216-00030520 to be continued
dwvXWw8js3A-00132-00030522-00032887 [Music]
dwvXWw8js3A-00133-00032888-00033096 you
dy0CYnW5FRE-00000-00000566-00000761 greetings and welcome to the
dy0CYnW5FRE-00001-00000762-00001031 introduction to astronomy one of the
dy0CYnW5FRE-00002-00001032-00001204 things that I like to do in each of my
dy0CYnW5FRE-00003-00001205-00001415 introductory astronomy classes is to
dy0CYnW5FRE-00004-00001416-00001589 begin the class with the Astronomy
dy0CYnW5FRE-00005-00001590-00001847 Picture of the Day from the NASA website
dy0CYnW5FRE-00006-00001848-00002101 that is
dy0CYnW5FRE-00007-00002102-00002459 apod.nasa.gov apod
dy0CYnW5FRE-00008-00002460-00002845 and today's picture for April 13th of
dy0CYnW5FRE-00009-00002846-00003438 2023 well it is titled NGC 2419
dy0CYnW5FRE-00010-00003439-00003701 Intergalactic Wanderer
dy0CYnW5FRE-00011-00003702-00004049 so what do we see here well this is an
dy0CYnW5FRE-00012-00004050-00004288 example of a globular cluster and it's
dy0CYnW5FRE-00013-00004289-00004620 known by its catalog designation of NGC
dy0CYnW5FRE-00014-00004621-00005122 2419 and we can see a good number of
dy0CYnW5FRE-00015-00005123-00005369 stars here generally a hundred thousand
dy0CYnW5FRE-00016-00005370-00005602 stars or so in the typical globular
dy0CYnW5FRE-00017-00005603-00006004 cluster and it is interesting and we
dy0CYnW5FRE-00018-00006005-00006233 call this an Intergalactic Wanderer
dy0CYnW5FRE-00019-00006234-00006532 because while it is now associated with
dy0CYnW5FRE-00020-00006533-00006887 our Milky Way looking at its motions we
dy0CYnW5FRE-00021-00006888-00007109 see it kind of shows that it was not
dy0CYnW5FRE-00022-00007109-00007475 originally part of our Milky Way and in
dy0CYnW5FRE-00023-00007476-00007727 fact it looks like it was part of the
dy0CYnW5FRE-00024-00007728-00008087 Sagittarius dwarf Galaxy which is one of
dy0CYnW5FRE-00025-00008088-00008321 the satellite galaxies of our Milky Way
dy0CYnW5FRE-00026-00008322-00008717 so it was previously orbiting that now
dy0CYnW5FRE-00027-00008718-00008999 the Sagittarius dwarf Galaxy is being
dy0CYnW5FRE-00028-00009000-00009257 disrupted as it comes close to the Milky
dy0CYnW5FRE-00029-00009258-00009449 Way and eventually will be torn apart
dy0CYnW5FRE-00030-00009450-00009701 and become part of the Milky Way of
dy0CYnW5FRE-00031-00009702-00010037 itself and its globular clusters are
dy0CYnW5FRE-00032-00010038-00010259 therefore also being incorporated into
dy0CYnW5FRE-00033-00010260-00010631 the Milky Way so galaxies grow over time
dy0CYnW5FRE-00034-00010632-00010883 through collisions like this they become
dy0CYnW5FRE-00035-00010884-00011224 larger galaxies that we see today and
dy0CYnW5FRE-00036-00011225-00011495 here we see one of the remnants of that
dy0CYnW5FRE-00037-00011496-00011669 type of collision where a globular
dy0CYnW5FRE-00038-00011670-00011999 cluster now associated with the Milky
dy0CYnW5FRE-00039-00012000-00012317 Way that previously was associated with
dy0CYnW5FRE-00040-00012318-00012659 another galaxy now globular clusters
dy0CYnW5FRE-00041-00012660-00012905 themselves are among the oldest parts of
dy0CYnW5FRE-00042-00012906-00013277 our galaxy or any Galaxy they tend to be
dy0CYnW5FRE-00043-00013278-00013607 extremely old and are made up of a
dy0CYnW5FRE-00044-00013608-00013979 population of very old stars stars like
dy0CYnW5FRE-00045-00013980-00014230 our sun have already evolved in many
dy0CYnW5FRE-00046-00014231-00014488 globular clusters and are no longer here
dy0CYnW5FRE-00047-00014490-00014771 it is Stars even less massive than the
dy0CYnW5FRE-00048-00014772-00014980 Sun that have evolved to become red
dy0CYnW5FRE-00049-00014981-00015221 supergiants which will dominate the
dy0CYnW5FRE-00050-00015222-00015622 light of a globular cluster so Stars
dy0CYnW5FRE-00051-00015623-00015880 little less massive than our sun have
dy0CYnW5FRE-00052-00015881-00016169 swollen in size too many times what they
dy0CYnW5FRE-00053-00016169-00016493 used to be and their light is what we
dy0CYnW5FRE-00054-00016494-00016811 often see Within These we can map out
dy0CYnW5FRE-00055-00016812-00017086 the ages by plotting the types of stars
dy0CYnW5FRE-00056-00017087-00017429 that are seen uh on a what we call an HR
dy0CYnW5FRE-00057-00017430-00017729 diagram and observing where they leave
dy0CYnW5FRE-00058-00017730-00018011 the main sequence the main sequence is
dy0CYnW5FRE-00059-00018012-00018286 the pattern of stars that we see for
dy0CYnW5FRE-00060-00018287-00018575 Stellar lifetimes when a star is burning
dy0CYnW5FRE-00061-00018576-00018833 hydrogen in its core during the majority
dy0CYnW5FRE-00062-00018834-00019007 of its life it will lie on the main
dy0CYnW5FRE-00063-00019008-00019325 sequence when the Stars leave that they
dy0CYnW5FRE-00064-00019326-00019505 change their temperature and Luminosity
dy0CYnW5FRE-00065-00019506-00019697 enough to leave what we call the main
dy0CYnW5FRE-00066-00019698-00020050 sequence then they become red giants or
dy0CYnW5FRE-00067-00020051-00020291 even red super Giants and that's often
dy0CYnW5FRE-00068-00020292-00020561 what we see here and by looking at where
dy0CYnW5FRE-00069-00020562-00020813 those leave the main sequence we can
dy0CYnW5FRE-00070-00020814-00021077 interpret and determine ages of clusters
dy0CYnW5FRE-00071-00021078-00021400 such as the intergalactic Wanderer here
dy0CYnW5FRE-00072-00021401-00021694 so that was our picture of the day for
dy0CYnW5FRE-00073-00021695-00021989 April 13th of 2 2023
dy0CYnW5FRE-00074-00021990-00022391 it was titled NGC 2419 Intergalactic
dy0CYnW5FRE-00075-00022392-00022636 Wanderer we'll be back again tomorrow
dy0CYnW5FRE-00076-00022637-00022972 for the next picture so until then have
dy0CYnW5FRE-00077-00022973-00023267 a great day everyone and I will see you
dy0CYnW5FRE-00078-00023268-00023534 in class
dyYqhStq284-00000-00000008-00000511 [Applause]
dyYqhStq284-00001-00000512-00000755 maybe I'll come a little bit closer it's
dyYqhStq284-00002-00000756-00001141 some kind of gender specific shoes for
dyYqhStq284-00003-00001142-00001375 they'll just sit here you can choose a
dyYqhStq284-00004-00001376-00001742 your shoes yeah did you
dyYqhStq284-00005-00001743-00001970 purposely open all the shoes that you
dyYqhStq284-00006-00001971-00002597 normally walk in I know Andy does these
dyYqhStq284-00007-00002598-00002723 are your walking shoes because you made
dyYqhStq284-00008-00002724-00003338 it walk today right yeah yes maybe and
dyYqhStq284-00009-00003339-00003547 maybe you can share one minute no no no
dyYqhStq284-00010-00003548-00003713 no there's another one Gifford is
dyYqhStq284-00011-00003714-00003913 bringing another new microphone as well
dyYqhStq284-00012-00003914-00004336 though so maybe I can ask more or less
dyYqhStq284-00013-00004337-00004529 the questions we ask the audience in the
dyYqhStq284-00014-00004530-00005015 beginning do all of you use maps are
dyYqhStq284-00015-00005016-00005227 there moments that you use maps or don't
dyYqhStq284-00016-00005228-00005804 use maps for walking absolutely loves
dyYqhStq284-00017-00005805-00006116 absolutely do yes yeah because I would
dyYqhStq284-00018-00006117-00006275 think that who specifically would not
dyYqhStq284-00019-00006276-00006634 use I totally love the technique of the
dyYqhStq284-00020-00006636-00006895 debrief of this getting lost on purpose
dyYqhStq284-00021-00006897-00007208 or walking with wrong maps through
dyYqhStq284-00022-00007209-00007453 places not the oldest it isn't silly
dyYqhStq284-00023-00007454-00007733 wrong wrong both maps are no no just
dyYqhStq284-00024-00007734-00007892 like I mean this is just amazing eatable
dyYqhStq284-00025-00007893-00008092 and I mean I once read that it's
dyYqhStq284-00026-00008093-00008246 essentially a Miss and it never happened
dyYqhStq284-00027-00008247-00008546 but they were using a map of Paris to
dyYqhStq284-00028-00008547-00008756 walk through the house a German okay
dyYqhStq284-00029-00008757-00009008 Horace mountain area yeah yeah yeah it's
dyYqhStq284-00030-00009009-00009224 pleased yeah yeah I think they just want
dyYqhStq284-00031-00009225-00009527 to sound cool they never did it but the
dyYqhStq284-00032-00009528-00009674 idea that you have a map and you just
dyYqhStq284-00033-00009675-00009977 follow it nevertheless it is not the
dyYqhStq284-00034-00009978-00010295 place where you are yeah yeah just to
dyYqhStq284-00035-00010296-00010508 see just to confuse you all the way to
dyYqhStq284-00036-00010509-00011051 go to Helen yet your relationship - yeah
dyYqhStq284-00037-00011052-00011288 Andi I believe do you frequently use
dyYqhStq284-00038-00011289-00011596 maps or how only one really necessary I
dyYqhStq284-00039-00011597-00011744 would say because
dyYqhStq284-00040-00011745-00012008 somehow I prefer just to take the time
dyYqhStq284-00041-00012009-00012233 to go along you know and see what
dyYqhStq284-00042-00012234-00012449 happens especially if arriving in new
dyYqhStq284-00043-00012450-00012791 area new city and try to orient fade and
dyYqhStq284-00044-00012792-00013036 somehow found our way back and so for
dyYqhStq284-00045-00013037-00013265 something like just let walk around
dyYqhStq284-00046-00013266-00013619 perhaps around yes because quite often I
dyYqhStq284-00047-00013619-00014050 think people suggest walking boats so
dyYqhStq284-00048-00014051-00014608 URL doesn't work for example for that
dyYqhStq284-00049-00014609-00014858 yeah put attack of the yeah how does it
dyYqhStq284-00050-00014859-00015236 work yes so that's maybe why I'm not so
dyYqhStq284-00051-00015237-00015422 much into maps because my work is all
dyYqhStq284-00052-00015422-00015821 about maths and also my work consists in
dyYqhStq284-00053-00015822-00016169 mapping pathways so all kinds of tracks
dyYqhStq284-00054-00016169-00016388 and trails and paths for pedestrians and
dyYqhStq284-00055-00016389-00016708 and bikers so every day we were more or
dyYqhStq284-00056-00016709-00017008 less into that so of course it's
dyYqhStq284-00057-00017009-00017168 important because you know it's all
dyYqhStq284-00058-00017169-00017675 about how the landscape is made for for
dyYqhStq284-00059-00017676-00018047 women for walkers and bikers so yeah but
dyYqhStq284-00060-00018048-00018380 then you distracted by the map there we
dyYqhStq284-00061-00018381-00018478 go yes
dyYqhStq284-00062-00018479-00018889 follow my maps are Kolya the old ones
dyYqhStq284-00063-00018890-00019547 and the second M because for example I
dyYqhStq284-00064-00019548-00019784 think and you've of course started with
dyYqhStq284-00065-00019785-00020141 a possible pause but I think photography
dyYqhStq284-00066-00020142-00020434 or your previous practice as a
dyYqhStq284-00067-00020435-00020719 photographer how did it that's work did
dyYqhStq284-00068-00020720-00020996 it make you walk or how did those two
dyYqhStq284-00069-00020997-00021209 influence each other like in the very
dyYqhStq284-00070-00021210-00021586 beginning yeah I mean photographic
dyYqhStq284-00071-00021587-00022049 practice itself is very much based on a
dyYqhStq284-00072-00022050-00022217 specialist in photography
dyYqhStq284-00073-00022218-00022691 very much based on walking I mean so and
dyYqhStq284-00074-00022692-00023222 during the thank yous was my photography
dyYqhStq284-00075-00023223-00023380 practice I've been walking a lot and
dyYqhStq284-00076-00023381-00023849 that's also very efficient tool to put
dyYqhStq284-00077-00023850-00024413 your nose into any certain areas you can
dyYqhStq284-00078-00024414-00024653 that's easily access you know that's the
dyYqhStq284-00079-00024654-00024830 truth you're the key
dyYqhStq284-00080-00024831-00025081 yeah that was a very key good key for me
dyYqhStq284-00081-00025082-00025618 too it was leading you along so came
dyYqhStq284-00082-00025619-00027302 like yeah preparing this talk I thought
dyYqhStq284-00083-00027302-00027614 we would also talk about nature mostly
dyYqhStq284-00084-00027614-00028073 but I think we mostly the the we well
dyYqhStq284-00085-00028074-00028643 our let's say our our heavy point or Y
dyYqhStq284-00086-00028644-00029012 axis is more about urban walking on the
dyYqhStq284-00087-00029013-00029327 verge of urban walking right and
dyYqhStq284-00088-00029327-00029492 especially if we talk about a Belgian
dyYqhStq284-00089-00029493-00030171 context we actually cannot escape city
dyYqhStq284-00090-00030172-00030568 any yeah turn truth I mean I think if we
dyYqhStq284-00091-00030569-00030899 look at the flounders or this area it's
dyYqhStq284-00092-00030900-00031223 hard to make a clear distinction between
dyYqhStq284-00093-00031224-00031420 something like the countryside or the
dyYqhStq284-00094-00031422-00031655 rural areas and urban areas or the
dyYqhStq284-00095-00031656-00031895 cities maybe before we have this more
dyYqhStq284-00096-00031895-00032180 concentrated urban areas or compact
dyYqhStq284-00097-00032181-00032415 cities when you show when they become
dyYqhStq284-00098-00032416-00032695 bigger they they somehow inflated and
dyYqhStq284-00099-00032697-00032954 they just state somehow concentrated and
dyYqhStq284-00100-00032955-00033196 the rest around it was countryside maybe
dyYqhStq284-00101-00033197-00033455 this has existed for some period but at
dyYqhStq284-00102-00033456-00033714 least since the I think 1950
dyYqhStq284-00103-00033715-00034113 60s organization has been spreading you
dyYqhStq284-00104-00034114-00034248 know the organization has been spreading
dyYqhStq284-00105-00034249-00034478 in a different way and love like
dyYqhStq284-00106-00034479-00034899 continuing in some compact city centers
dyYqhStq284-00107-00034900-00035037 but it's more like spreading in a
dyYqhStq284-00108-00035038-00035361 network way and for example with the
dyYqhStq284-00109-00035362-00035535 construction of roads of course you had
dyYqhStq284-00110-00035536-00035799 all the construction next to the roads
dyYqhStq284-00111-00035800-00036114 you have the commuters who we're going
dyYqhStq284-00112-00036115-00036348 to live much further than city centers
dyYqhStq284-00113-00036349-00036680 so you have a much more diffuse and
dyYqhStq284-00114-00036681-00036900 decentralized organizations of them
dyYqhStq284-00115-00036901-00037092 actually you know people who kind of
dyYqhStq284-00116-00037093-00037245 live everywhere and those which is very
dyYqhStq284-00117-00037246-00037536 specific for Belgian for Belgian
dyYqhStq284-00118-00037537-00037740 landscape in a way but it's also I mean
dyYqhStq284-00119-00037741-00038298 in Italy northern Italy in Germany and
dyYqhStq284-00120-00038299-00038616 Holland and areas of France and it's
dyYqhStq284-00121-00038617-00038994 it's somehow it has somehow model of
dyYqhStq284-00122-00038995-00039374 urban developments or more larger than
dyYqhStq284-00123-00039375-00039741 Belgium but especially sure in Flanders
dyYqhStq284-00124-00039742-00040086 it's it's the whole territory is somehow
dyYqhStq284-00125-00040087-00040487 urbanized say and when you walk for
dyYqhStq284-00126-00040488-00040749 pleasure because you still walk for
dyYqhStq284-00127-00040750-00041091 pleasure right so where do you do you
dyYqhStq284-00128-00041092-00041238 look for nature you know you look for it
dyYqhStq284-00129-00041239-00041622 is interesting mixed mixture of both or
dyYqhStq284-00130-00041623-00041907 IndieGoGo specifically two cities to
dyYqhStq284-00131-00041908-00042360 walk or why do you walk yourself whoa
dyYqhStq284-00132-00042361-00043014 professional walker or let's say I I
dyYqhStq284-00133-00043015-00043332 started to enjoy walking when I when I
dyYqhStq284-00134-00043333-00043518 was a student somehow you know in the in
dyYqhStq284-00135-00043519-00043782 the city and then I started to go always
dyYqhStq284-00136-00043783-00044014 further from the city center you know
dyYqhStq284-00137-00044015-00044392 was much interested in the city centers
dyYqhStq284-00138-00044393-00044734 and the walking tours which were clearly
dyYqhStq284-00139-00044735-00044940 marked etc so I started to you know
dyYqhStq284-00140-00044941-00045190 somehow explore around and always going
dyYqhStq284-00141-00045191-00045379 a little bit further and then I had one
dyYqhStq284-00142-00045380-00045607 year studying in inst husband chosen
dyYqhStq284-00143-00045608-00045808 next to the border with Germany and then
dyYqhStq284-00144-00045809-00046000 you had the Rhine River and then you
dyYqhStq284-00145-00046001-00046252 cross it and you come and kale and it's
dyYqhStq284-00146-00046253-00046468 a very nice area and there I started to
dyYqhStq284-00147-00046469-00046890 have the tastes of the very urban areas
dyYqhStq284-00148-00046891-00047161 or the fringe areas and also the you
dyYqhStq284-00149-00047162-00047371 know the abandoned factories like that
dyYqhStq284-00150-00047372-00047629 and the most industrial landscape so I
dyYqhStq284-00151-00047630-00047986 kind of started to enjoy that and ever
dyYqhStq284-00152-00047987-00048148 since I yeah
dyYqhStq284-00153-00048149-00048460 roaming around in this kind of it's not
dyYqhStq284-00154-00048461-00048618 really countryside not really city
dyYqhStq284-00155-00048619-00048837 centre but somewhere in between yeah
dyYqhStq284-00156-00048838-00049129 that it for you the city is quite
dyYqhStq284-00157-00049130-00049339 important or network but well it's a
dyYqhStq284-00158-00049340-00049737 human but but humans or build or make
dyYqhStq284-00159-00049738-00050020 and I mean the humans enough yourself I
dyYqhStq284-00160-00050021-00050158 mean what is that one of the big dip
dyYqhStq284-00161-00050159-00050389 today we had a walk in the countryside I
dyYqhStq284-00162-00050390-00050721 would say definitely countryside even
dyYqhStq284-00163-00050722-00050944 though there was like there were I mean
dyYqhStq284-00164-00050945-00051106 there was stabilization is not just
dyYqhStq284-00165-00051107-00051267 nature know there is like smaller
dyYqhStq284-00166-00051269-00051594 villages and but what is such a huge
dyYqhStq284-00167-00051595-00051739 difference is that you barely meet
dyYqhStq284-00168-00051740-00051945 anyone but when you walk through a city
dyYqhStq284-00169-00051946-00052186 you meet a lot of people and you're just
dyYqhStq284-00170-00052187-00052657 in a social context and my walks that I
dyYqhStq284-00171-00052658-00052879 organize or designed or composed of
dyYqhStq284-00172-00052879-00053091 choreographed or however I sometimes
dyYqhStq284-00173-00053092-00053350 call social choreographies exactly
dyYqhStq284-00174-00053351-00053572 because of this fact that you are always
dyYqhStq284-00175-00053573-00053794 in relationship to other people doing
dyYqhStq284-00176-00053795-00054013 other kind of choreographies that may be
dyYqhStq284-00177-00054014-00054192 more designed by the streets of a city
dyYqhStq284-00178-00054194-00054601 by urbanism by idea how we have to walk
dyYqhStq284-00179-00054602-00054847 through cities and which is so the
dyYqhStq284-00180-00054848-00055057 techniques that I use a propose are more
dyYqhStq284-00181-00055058-00055542 opposing other things that they are more
dyYqhStq284-00182-00055544-00055791 imposing like the natural rules that
dyYqhStq284-00183-00055792-00056041 seem to just appear in cities then they
dyYqhStq284-00184-00056041-00056413 would that there would be like so
dyYqhStq284-00185-00056414-00056510 context
dyYqhStq284-00186-00056511-00056744 specific aside specific that it is
dyYqhStq284-00187-00056745-00056909 really about this one staircase in this
dyYqhStq284-00188-00056910-00057104 one I'm free in this one bridge and this
dyYqhStq284-00189-00057104-00057316 one so it's much more about how to use
dyYqhStq284-00190-00057317-00057529 space than really about the space yeah
dyYqhStq284-00191-00057530-00057737 like for example to inappropriately use
dyYqhStq284-00192-00057738-00058103 stairs it probably use stairs or like
dyYqhStq284-00193-00058104-00058316 yeah exactly you're like misusing things
dyYqhStq284-00194-00058316-00058460 I love walking through shopping malls
dyYqhStq284-00195-00058461-00058784 which are definitely designed to give us
dyYqhStq284-00196-00058785-00059215 a certain feel of how to like slide into
dyYqhStq284-00197-00059216-00059588 consumerism but that doesn't take and
dyYqhStq284-00198-00059589-00059759 they use kind of entertainment for this
dyYqhStq284-00199-00059760-00060038 or like beauty codes and decoration and
dyYqhStq284-00200-00060039-00060212 but then in the end you are supposed to
dyYqhStq284-00201-00060213-00060473 buy it and shop in this code field and
dyYqhStq284-00202-00060474-00060644 feel good things so I have done a lot of
dyYqhStq284-00203-00060645-00060841 also audio guides for shopping modes for
dyYqhStq284-00204-00060842-00061105 example just because actually this
dyYqhStq284-00205-00061107-00061361 possible to misuse the spaces use them
dyYqhStq284-00206-00061362-00061604 for other purposes and maybe kind of
dyYqhStq284-00207-00061604-00061748 twist the whole idea of entertainment
dyYqhStq284-00208-00061749-00062099 around into a real experience and this I
dyYqhStq284-00209-00062100-00062404 type is simply funny to just like just
dyYqhStq284-00210-00062405-00062645 really deliberately miss understand the
dyYqhStq284-00211-00062646-00062876 meaning of certain symbols and signs
dyYqhStq284-00212-00062877-00063454 mm-hmm yes of course I if I am you talk
dyYqhStq284-00213-00063455-00063848 about people around when you walk or the
dyYqhStq284-00214-00063849-00064151 social space but I think your
dyYqhStq284-00215-00064152-00064508 performances are know walks are quite
dyYqhStq284-00216-00064509-00065154 lonely act for people it's also sad yeah
dyYqhStq284-00217-00065155-00065414 you know you enjoyed your time lonely in
dyYqhStq284-00218-00065415-00066074 this tender I mean they are so very
dyYqhStq284-00219-00066075-00066317 solitary yeah I know I mean the audio
dyYqhStq284-00220-00066318-00066452 guys are a little bit different than the
dyYqhStq284-00221-00066453-00066635 the group's courier fees that are
dyYqhStq284-00222-00066636-00066845 organized because audio guys indeed like
dyYqhStq284-00223-00066846-00067067 with a group you somehow get yourself
dyYqhStq284-00224-00067068-00067336 all the time out of concentration and
dyYqhStq284-00225-00067337-00067544 something I always found a little bit
dyYqhStq284-00226-00067545-00067715 boring about sound words we discussed
dyYqhStq284-00227-00067716-00067937 that today also is that this rule of
dyYqhStq284-00228-00067938-00068180 like we don't talk so I try to find
dyYqhStq284-00229-00068181-00068357 other techniques to make people to not
dyYqhStq284-00230-00068358-00068449 reach
dyYqhStq284-00231-00068450-00068674 level of reflection already before the
dyYqhStq284-00232-00068675-00068890 experience has happened but if we both
dyYqhStq284-00233-00068891-00069019 walk through a city we would immediately
dyYqhStq284-00234-00069020-00069160 selling out look at this and look at
dyYqhStq284-00235-00069161-00069286 this so like the whole reflection would
dyYqhStq284-00236-00069287-00069427 have started the meta level is there
dyYqhStq284-00237-00069428-00069724 correctly and so techniques and group
dyYqhStq284-00238-00069725-00069910 works what we did today for example what
dyYqhStq284-00239-00069911-00070129 I do sometimes individualize people just
dyYqhStq284-00240-00070130-00070273 by say like we walk into this with a
dyYqhStq284-00241-00070274-00070441 distance of 8 meters between each other
dyYqhStq284-00242-00070442-00070648 like just the moment like this is like
dyYqhStq284-00243-00070649-00070906 too far to talk even even though some
dyYqhStq284-00244-00070907-00071287 people still shout it but do you prefer
dyYqhStq284-00245-00071288-00071491 that people do it is it something to do
dyYqhStq284-00246-00071492-00071770 on your own or is it do you make I mean
dyYqhStq284-00247-00071771-00071950 no you know it's a difficult question
dyYqhStq284-00248-00071951-00072190 because like I'm I mean I'm keen on the
dyYqhStq284-00249-00072191-00072355 things that I propose but I'm also very
dyYqhStq284-00250-00072356-00072577 keen on and people misuse also my words
dyYqhStq284-00251-00072578-00072775 again so I have a little bit of
dyYqhStq284-00252-00072776-00073000 conflicts answering this this question
dyYqhStq284-00253-00073001-00073231 because I'd like to be treated bad in
dyYqhStq284-00254-00073232-00073444 that sense on the other hand and I don't
dyYqhStq284-00255-00073445-00073600 want to be the witness of it so like I
dyYqhStq284-00256-00073601-00073786 yeah you can audio guide and I pull
dyYqhStq284-00257-00073787-00073900 myself back and then people just
dyYqhStq284-00258-00073901-00074176 pasteurize that'll work yeah it's a
dyYqhStq284-00259-00074177-00074350 little bit like you said second that
dyYqhStq284-00260-00074351-00074824 that actually the the walk has become an
dyYqhStq284-00261-00074825-00075319 autonomous work yeah how is it how is it
dyYqhStq284-00262-00075320-00075535 going now how did it develop now do you
dyYqhStq284-00263-00075536-00075712 still get pictures like the ones from
dyYqhStq284-00264-00075713-00076111 help actually had mr. mentioned that it
dyYqhStq284-00265-00076112-00076435 has been said all around six years it's
dyYqhStq284-00266-00076436-00076654 still going on as you told it's an
dyYqhStq284-00267-00076655-00076948 autonomous act anymore so I don't have
dyYqhStq284-00268-00076949-00077592 any more control on it so it has been
dyYqhStq284-00269-00077593-00077986 some like turkey cool folks have took
dyYqhStq284-00270-00077987-00078208 place around the time people walk out in
dyYqhStq284-00271-00078209-00078703 comedy yes and and and also it has been
dyYqhStq284-00272-00078704-00078943 given as a supplement of a National
dyYqhStq284-00273-00078944-00079225 Geographic magazine so and it's been
dyYqhStq284-00274-00079226-00079561 already out of artistic context so fifty
dyYqhStq284-00275-00079562-00079809 thousand copies of being destroyed
dyYqhStq284-00276-00079810-00080231 ages that's of the map you move them out
dyYqhStq284-00277-00080232-00080373 yes
dyYqhStq284-00278-00080374-00080747 so that's important about to collect the
dyYqhStq284-00279-00080748-00081198 memory at the moment when you put the
dyYqhStq284-00280-00081199-00081599 map it's not anymore it is already the
dyYqhStq284-00281-00081600-00081753 collective memory it's people are
dyYqhStq284-00282-00081754-00082088 working on it so it's kind of a civil
dyYqhStq284-00283-00082089-00082749 obedience against your the construction
dyYqhStq284-00284-00082750-00083160 process you know so and the image that I
dyYqhStq284-00285-00083161-00083381 showed you all collected from the
dyYqhStq284-00286-00083382-00083588 walkers and some people are collecting
dyYqhStq284-00287-00083589-00083843 this images and making a database with
dyYqhStq284-00288-00083844-00084056 it yeah like you collected photos from
dyYqhStq284-00289-00084057-00084303 Instagram yeah so what did you feel
dyYqhStq284-00290-00084304-00084528 about it it's okay for you that the
dyYqhStq284-00291-00084529-00084668 second choices
dyYqhStq284-00292-00084669-00085238 oh yeah yeah okay yeah okay but if it
dyYqhStq284-00293-00085239-00085451 that still if the map is so widespread
dyYqhStq284-00294-00085452-00085728 is its do you still feel it's political
dyYqhStq284-00295-00085729-00086010 do you still feel because you made it
dyYqhStq284-00296-00086011-00086375 because yeah very from a very political
dyYqhStq284-00297-00086376-00087012 standpoint how can you distinguish it
dyYqhStq284-00298-00087013-00087268 that's happened that's another question
dyYqhStq284-00299-00087269-00087816 so I mean yes sir I can give it this
dyYqhStq284-00300-00087817-00087972 example some of the some people who
dyYqhStq284-00301-00087973-00088140 doesn't even know it's about a political
dyYqhStq284-00302-00088141-00088442 act or a social act so they just want to
dyYqhStq284-00303-00088443-00088913 have a day of leisure the Institute's of
dyYqhStq284-00304-00088914-00089112 Islam and that's still fine
dyYqhStq284-00305-00089113-00089543 I'm so I don't try to distinguish which
dyYqhStq284-00306-00089544-00089732 one's political at which one is because
dyYqhStq284-00307-00089733-00089924 on the map itself it is explained as
dyYqhStq284-00308-00089925-00090336 this is the route that the canal would
dyYqhStq284-00309-00090337-00091092 have yeah but no not any vert in the map
dyYqhStq284-00310-00091093-00091325 is mentioning about the canal
dyYqhStq284-00311-00091326-00091512 yeah because once you mentioned the
dyYqhStq284-00312-00091513-00091941 canal then eulogize it so you never use
dyYqhStq284-00313-00091942-00092190 the world and kind of in the map so it's
dyYqhStq284-00314-00092191-00092478 under ectly mentioning about it's going
dyYqhStq284-00315-00092479-00092756 to be in line between two CS thats also
dyYqhStq284-00316-00092757-00093009 resembling about what what do you do
dyYqhStq284-00317-00093010-00093293 between 2 C's evolve you to canal you do
dyYqhStq284-00318-00093294-00093630 what so it's just that proposal to do
dyYqhStq284-00319-00093631-00093762 something between two CS
dyYqhStq284-00320-00093763-00093948 okay and you don't mind that people
dyYqhStq284-00321-00093949-00094193 walking without knowing which doing
dyYqhStq284-00322-00094194-00094480 intention its final display because it
dyYqhStq284-00323-00094481-00095109 just gives importance to the periphery
dyYqhStq284-00324-00095110-00095438 of the city which is hide the neglected
dyYqhStq284-00325-00095439-00095616 since you were speaking about the
dyYqhStq284-00326-00095617-00095762 feature at the very beginning because
dyYqhStq284-00327-00095763-00095961 and you are ready talking about the
dyYqhStq284-00328-00095962-00096143 pitifully but the periphery of the city
dyYqhStq284-00329-00096144-00096318 in terms of cities like establish the
dyYqhStq284-00330-00096319-00096510 picture of the city actually because if
dyYqhStq284-00331-00096511-00096846 expending so high I saw first so you
dyYqhStq284-00332-00096847-00097092 know and it's they are hiding neglected
dyYqhStq284-00333-00097093-00097394 so so that's why in order to have your
dyYqhStq284-00334-00097395-00097992 rights about the city's symbol to be
dyYqhStq284-00335-00097993-00098600 there tangible experience exactly yeah
dyYqhStq284-00336-00098601-00098801 because yeah when you were talking about
dyYqhStq284-00337-00098802-00098985 periphery walks you were doing ourselves
dyYqhStq284-00338-00098986-00099344 that mustn't be nice to do but why I
dyYqhStq284-00339-00099345-00099597 mean exactly and putting your body into
dyYqhStq284-00340-00099598-00099794 a situation no that's so it's this a
dyYqhStq284-00341-00099795-00099987 very it's different than asking people
dyYqhStq284-00342-00099988-00100256 to go by car or some I mean you know you
dyYqhStq284-00343-00100257-00100497 think that it's like putting your body
dyYqhStq284-00344-00100498-00100692 doing a certain kind of like really
dyYqhStq284-00345-00100693-00101109 naive and I know like really pure first
dyYqhStq284-00346-00101110-00101346 degree kind of physical act walking I
dyYqhStq284-00347-00101347-00101537 have to also think of the standing men
dyYqhStq284-00348-00101538-00101742 attack seems to air which is just like
dyYqhStq284-00349-00101743-00101918 it the case the artist will just stand
dyYqhStq284-00350-00101919-00102234 still during the protest of and just
dyYqhStq284-00351-00102235-00102482 standing as the figure of we have what
dyYqhStq284-00352-00102483-00102683 actually is it already protest or is it
dyYqhStq284-00353-00102684-00102932 just a like actually that's I think the
dyYqhStq284-00354-00102933-00103098 authority of self performance which I
dyYqhStq284-00355-00103099-00103331 kind of emphasized offer it's in there
dyYqhStq284-00356-00103332-00103490 the moment that you put your body into
dyYqhStq284-00357-00103491-00103843 an act into a performative act
dyYqhStq284-00358-00103844-00104072 there's already something changing even
dyYqhStq284-00359-00104073-00104216 though it's not yet something very
dyYqhStq284-00360-00104217-00104608 politically you mentioned yes because we
dyYqhStq284-00361-00104609-00104765 haven't talked about it yet but your
dyYqhStq284-00362-00104766-00105091 work is also you there is also political
dyYqhStq284-00363-00105092-00105556 components in it there's the question
dyYqhStq284-00364-00105557-00105916 yes I mean I know but for example when
dyYqhStq284-00365-00105917-00106043 you talk about malls
dyYqhStq284-00366-00106044-00106421 I guess misusing a place there is so
dyYqhStq284-00367-00106422-00106654 much architecture out there that that is
dyYqhStq284-00368-00106655-00106958 silently guiding us in some way I'm
dyYqhStq284-00369-00106958-00107120 sorry I was thinking about the animals
dyYqhStq284-00370-00107121-00108241 the moles because we get very so lightly
dyYqhStq284-00371-00108242-00108533 shopping there's also big I am thinking
dyYqhStq284-00372-00108533-00108752 about for example the the Swedish
dyYqhStq284-00373-00108753-00108977 performer that you showed us who was
dyYqhStq284-00374-00108978-00109244 while falling down in the financial
dyYqhStq284-00375-00109245-00109502 district in in New York I can imagine
dyYqhStq284-00376-00109503-00109850 being a disturbing act in that situation
dyYqhStq284-00377-00109851-00110207 but I think the I mean that's that's a
dyYqhStq284-00378-00110208-00110381 note the our discussion of art is
dyYqhStq284-00379-00110382-00110633 political even though without mentioning
dyYqhStq284-00380-00110633-00110941 a political subject necessarily I think
dyYqhStq284-00381-00110942-00111113 one answer in this discussion is that
dyYqhStq284-00382-00111114-00111422 you give people some how you show ways
dyYqhStq284-00383-00111423-00111736 of self responsibility self activation
dyYqhStq284-00384-00111738-00112013 you somehow give acting yeah give the
dyYqhStq284-00385-00112014-00112279 the moment of action back to people if
dyYqhStq284-00386-00112280-00112451 our does this I mean art can do many
dyYqhStq284-00387-00112452-00112708 things but especially art that is on
dyYqhStq284-00388-00112709-00112909 this half performative never I mean it's
dyYqhStq284-00389-00112910-00113164 performance art or is it like self
dyYqhStq284-00390-00113165-00113456 experiential art I think they're pretty
dyYqhStq284-00391-00113457-00113821 close I mean standing walking dancing
dyYqhStq284-00392-00113822-00114113 you find it in like we had like the
dyYqhStq284-00393-00114114-00114350 walking you showed like demonstrations
dyYqhStq284-00394-00114351-00114473 of demonstrations and then we have
dyYqhStq284-00395-00114474-00114733 people just walking as a hiking hikers
dyYqhStq284-00396-00114734-00114893 but then we had a lot of artists using
dyYqhStq284-00397-00114894-00115208 walking I mean it's like I think there
dyYqhStq284-00398-00115208-00115463 but the interesting part is where is the
dyYqhStq284-00399-00115464-00115654 relationship to the audience like do you
dyYqhStq284-00400-00115655-00115858 make just people look at stuff or do you
dyYqhStq284-00401-00115859-00116128 invite them to do something and this is
dyYqhStq284-00402-00116129-00116447 also if we would put like these examples
dyYqhStq284-00403-00116448-00116528 of yours and took a
dyYqhStq284-00404-00116529-00116681 is there some that invited people to
dyYqhStq284-00405-00116682-00116840 join and others they're just like there
dyYqhStq284-00406-00116841-00117074 for the nice images a lot of these 70s
dyYqhStq284-00407-00117075-00117227 works they're just like they're just
dyYqhStq284-00408-00117228-00117548 living on syllabi the images yeah and I
dyYqhStq284-00409-00117549-00117725 think that art changed a lot there were
dyYqhStq284-00410-00117726-00117902 people thought like okay maybe we have
dyYqhStq284-00411-00117903-00118049 to take the people on the hike if we
dyYqhStq284-00412-00118050-00118354 want them to go through the same changes
dyYqhStq284-00413-00118355-00118571 that's maybe footage
dyYqhStq284-00414-00118572-00118847 yeah exactly for example another well
dyYqhStq284-00415-00118848-00119129 small detail is the colors you use for
dyYqhStq284-00417-00122819-00123109 it's not the same for but once the Getty
dyYqhStq284-00418-00123110-00124711 happened it became like a social that's
dyYqhStq284-00419-00124713-00125192 why there's a close relation
dyYqhStq284-00420-00125193-00125686 because if people see orange will they
dyYqhStq284-00421-00125688-00126513 you don't explain I guess the same way
dyYqhStq284-00422-00126514-00126699 for you you don't really explain why
dyYqhStq284-00423-00126700-00127008 people have to knock on it just make
dyYqhStq284-00424-00127008-00127281 them do things door opens door or not
dyYqhStq284-00425-00127282-00127581 come I don't know poles and stuff it's
dyYqhStq284-00426-00127582-00127910 just through the experience they do yeah
dyYqhStq284-00427-00127911-00128094 this example for example walking we have
dyYqhStq284-00428-00128095-00128307 done this in Athens just the same day
dyYqhStq284-00429-00128308-00128493 there was a strike and yeah essence is
dyYqhStq284-00430-00128494-00128757 still it's like everything in public
dyYqhStq284-00431-00128758-00128919 space is political there and then we
dyYqhStq284-00432-00128920-00129069 were walking around and hitting his
dyYqhStq284-00433-00129070-00129267 stuff in the shopping area of course I
dyYqhStq284-00434-00129268-00129434 wanted it to happen there because I
dyYqhStq284-00435-00129435-00129627 thought it would be interesting you
dyYqhStq284-00436-00129628-00129961 misuse like all these pillars and
dyYqhStq284-00437-00129963-00130259 whatever and then there was a lot of
dyYqhStq284-00438-00130260-00130374 police still around and they were
dyYqhStq284-00439-00130375-00130545 definitely curious what we were doing
dyYqhStq284-00440-00130546-00130677 there but somehow we didn't do something
dyYqhStq284-00441-00130678-00131033 wrong so it's also if this is on the
dyYqhStq284-00442-00131034-00131355 verge of being also ever be meant to be
dyYqhStq284-00443-00131356-00131595 enough being simple symbolic because
dyYqhStq284-00444-00131596-00131754 it's also experiential and that is this
dyYqhStq284-00445-00131755-00131928 question also like is it done for you it
dyYqhStq284-00446-00131929-00132057 for yourself or you doing something
dyYqhStq284-00447-00132058-00133119 again for others and totally different
dyYqhStq284-00448-00133120-00133326 question but we talk about maps we talk
dyYqhStq284-00449-00133327-00133620 about there is some I have here the
dyYqhStq284-00450-00133621-00133887 Brussels tracks five it's nice of paper
dyYqhStq284-00451-00133888-00134217 with instructions and all that but of
dyYqhStq284-00452-00134218-00134355 course there is the internet there is
dyYqhStq284-00453-00134356-00134751 GPS there is Google Maps and all that
dyYqhStq284-00454-00134752-00135150 how to used think has it changed the
dyYqhStq284-00455-00135151-00135402 walking experience and in what way do
dyYqhStq284-00456-00135403-00135987 you think for example for yourself how
dyYqhStq284-00457-00135988-00136134 has the internet changed the walking
dyYqhStq284-00458-00136135-00136589 experience well the internet and I mean
dyYqhStq284-00459-00136590-00136879 digital technologies and
dyYqhStq284-00460-00136880-00137197 then they may have a huge impact then
dyYqhStq284-00461-00137198-00137448 but in some in some way these
dyYqhStq284-00462-00137449-00137721 technological devices they I mean
dyYqhStq284-00463-00137722-00137920 especially today yeah that's of course
dyYqhStq284-00464-00137921-00138313 the GPS and then the mobile phone and
dyYqhStq284-00465-00138314-00138556 the smartphone but there's also the
dyYqhStq284-00466-00138557-00138838 technology is developing like is a smart
dyYqhStq284-00467-00138839-00139147 clothing or these wearable computers and
dyYqhStq284-00468-00139148-00139342 stuff like this what we see happening is
dyYqhStq284-00469-00139343-00139633 actually that like you know the it's a
dyYqhStq284-00470-00139634-00139822 bit like walking technique is that used
dyYqhStq284-00471-00139823-00140029 that we used before like the shoes that
dyYqhStq284-00472-00140030-00140191 we saw on one of the artworks
dyYqhStq284-00473-00140192-00140437 the shoes but also walking sticks and
dyYqhStq284-00474-00140438-00140659 stuff like that or Maps or clothes
dyYqhStq284-00475-00140660-00140959 walking clothes or walking here actually
dyYqhStq284-00476-00140960-00141283 now they become digitalized somehow and
dyYqhStq284-00477-00141284-00141628 it looks like more and more will somehow
dyYqhStq284-00478-00141629-00141925 be melting with the body or be connected
dyYqhStq284-00479-00141926-00142129 with the body like you know I could
dyYqhStq284-00480-00142130-00142357 Proteas is something like an extension
dyYqhStq284-00481-00142358-00142627 of the body and this is something which
dyYqhStq284-00482-00142628-00143361 is becoming may have a huge impact so
dyYqhStq284-00483-00143362-00143707 well something like that nowadays
dyYqhStq284-00484-00143708-00143875 already with the smartphone if you're
dyYqhStq284-00485-00143876-00144121 always online it's it's possible to
dyYqhStq284-00486-00144122-00144358 always be traced or tracked or something
dyYqhStq284-00487-00144359-00144712 like that and also not only the the
dyYqhStq284-00488-00144713-00144919 walking experience like though that the
dyYqhStq284-00489-00144920-00145093 body will will change but also the
dyYqhStq284-00490-00145094-00145323 environment like you see already now the
dyYqhStq284-00491-00145324-00145608 environment it's getting much more
dyYqhStq284-00492-00145609-00145929 enhanced with all kinds of sensors and
dyYqhStq284-00493-00145930-00146215 displays and compute computational
dyYqhStq284-00494-00146216-00146416 elements here and there and so somehow
dyYqhStq284-00495-00146417-00146762 the environment will start to respond on
dyYqhStq284-00496-00146763-00146999 the moving body or the walking person
dyYqhStq284-00497-00147000-00147128 you know so you will have this
dyYqhStq284-00498-00147129-00147458 interaction between your augmented
dyYqhStq284-00499-00147459-00147665 technologically augmented body and the
dyYqhStq284-00500-00147666-00147941 technologically augmented environment so
dyYqhStq284-00501-00147942-00148272 in this will of course huge effects of
dyYqhStq284-00502-00148273-00148668 would have huge effects in the future so
dyYqhStq284-00503-00148669-00148896 on the whole thing the main ingredients
dyYqhStq284-00504-00148897-00149169 for this is of course data you know and
dyYqhStq284-00505-00149170-00149429 then all question huge debate which is
dyYqhStq284-00506-00149430-00149793 burning today these data who is having
dyYqhStq284-00507-00149794-00150023 which data always having access to which
dyYqhStq284-00508-00150024-00150372 data there are so the walking experience
dyYqhStq284-00509-00150373-00150802 could get called Colin too into this
dyYqhStq284-00510-00150803-00151154 this technological revolution somehow
dyYqhStq284-00511-00151155-00151529 where you always somehow part of this
dyYqhStq284-00512-00151530-00151896 cycle exactly and I think maybe it might
dyYqhStq284-00513-00151897-00152201 go both ways that the idea of well
dyYqhStq284-00514-00152202-00152489 walking as a act that brings you back to
dyYqhStq284-00515-00152490-00152658 yourself to your own thoughts like a
dyYqhStq284-00516-00152659-00152844 solitary act in the here and now and
dyYqhStq284-00517-00152845-00153098 then on the other hand well that is of
dyYqhStq284-00518-00153099-00153302 course a bit disturbed because you are
dyYqhStq284-00519-00153303-00153512 part of a network that is following you
dyYqhStq284-00520-00153513-00153734 on the other hand it becomes more social
dyYqhStq284-00521-00153735-00153974 if you can share it on social media if
dyYqhStq284-00522-00153975-00154123 you do it together
dyYqhStq284-00523-00154124-00154385 might be the bright side of it may be a
dyYqhStq284-00524-00154386-00154637 last question for you before I close
dyYqhStq284-00525-00154638-00154934 well but did you appreciate about it
dyYqhStq284-00526-00154935-00155063 sort of practice have you heard
dyYqhStq284-00527-00155064-00155558 something you didn't
dyYqhStq284-00528-00155559-00155779 if any for example what did you hear
dyYqhStq284-00529-00155780-00156091 that triggered you was that you've got
dyYqhStq284-00530-00156092-00156400 oh okay well I was really happy to be
dyYqhStq284-00531-00156401-00156763 with this two guys and it's not very
dyYqhStq284-00532-00156764-00157063 gender mix the walking crew but I tried
dyYqhStq284-00533-00157064-00157378 to it's quite some diversity in the
dyYqhStq284-00534-00157379-00157675 presentation but yeah I was happy this
dyYqhStq284-00535-00157676-00158219 afternoon for example but not that well
dyYqhStq284-00536-00158220-00158711 and now I understand it's really
dyYqhStq284-00537-00158712-00159173 interesting also on what he said about
dyYqhStq284-00538-00159174-00159486 the collective and the individual
dyYqhStq284-00539-00159487-00159712 experience and how it connects somehow
dyYqhStq284-00540-00159713-00159881 here in the group and not really or
dyYqhStq284-00541-00159882-00160851 somehow alone so it's really interesting
dyYqhStq284-00542-00160852-00161420 also I mean the way how experience
dyYqhStq284-00543-00161421-00161684 connects with the Tres or the track on
dyYqhStq284-00544-00161685-00162047 the ground like in chalk on the ground
dyYqhStq284-00545-00162048-00162308 this is interesting so the pop actually
dyYqhStq284-00546-00162309-00162572 is there and then you have to embody it
dyYqhStq284-00547-00162573-00162833 by walking it which is all kinds of
dyYqhStq284-00548-00162834-00163360 interesting things and then of course
dyYqhStq284-00549-00163361-00163537 it's number ahead it's all I want to go
dyYqhStq284-00550-00163538-00163666 there since so many years
dyYqhStq284-00551-00163667-00164360 and now looks really nice I mean I saw
dyYqhStq284-00552-00164361-00164536 this picture don't like ok this is
dyYqhStq284-00553-00164537-00164928 wonderful
dyYqhStq284-00554-00164929-00165844 [Music]
dyYqhStq284-00555-00165845-00166272 [Music]
dyYqhStq284-00557-00169786-00169929 if you think though I will take this
dyYqhStq284-00558-00169930-00171201 along for my next project in Canada so
dyYqhStq284-00559-00171202-00171686 it was very great from nd that I have a
dyYqhStq284-00560-00171687-00173751 couple of thanks for shaving yeah and I
dyYqhStq284-00561-00173752-00174435 mean there are also a couple of artis
dyYqhStq284-00562-00174436-00174719 our defense came to the morgue and
dyYqhStq284-00563-00174720-00175050 interpretated doing performances I have
dyYqhStq284-00564-00175051-00175427 not got time to show them so and
dyYqhStq284-00565-00175428-00175911 obviously since I mean this is the 20th
dyYqhStq284-00567-00179191-00179382 something that you like you first do the
dyYqhStq284-00568-00179383-00179490 act and then suddenly you discover
dyYqhStq284-00569-00179491-00179751 politics after I mean we spoke about how
dyYqhStq284-00570-00179752-00179910 to interest me anyone like this is so
dyYqhStq284-00571-00179911-00180453 beautiful in that so to discover that
dyYqhStq284-00572-00180454-00180648 myself but already decide the effect you
dyYqhStq284-00573-00180649-00180777 you don't talk about it but actually
dyYqhStq284-00574-00180778-00180948 it's happening and actually you could
dyYqhStq284-00575-00180949-00181509 know you could always have no not like
dyYqhStq284-00576-00181510-00181764 by putting your body into that like
dyYqhStq284-00577-00181765-00181995 offering someone and also like can if
dyYqhStq284-00578-00181996-00182303 it's a subversive gesture to as tourism
dyYqhStq284-00579-00182304-00182457 also which is so interesting not like
dyYqhStq284-00580-00182458-00182613 you have like this beautiful map that
dyYqhStq284-00581-00182614-00182799 you have like it is it happens to be in
dyYqhStq284-00582-00182800-00182994 like magazines and people just do
dyYqhStq284-00583-00182995-00183210 marathon in it and everyone is just like
dyYqhStq284-00584-00183211-00183363 and actually if you tell them what it's
dyYqhStq284-00585-00183364-00183522 about and I everyone was oh yes
dyYqhStq284-00586-00183523-00183765 that makes so much sense so I think
dyYqhStq284-00587-00183766-00183909 that's also great and then here I mean
dyYqhStq284-00588-00183910-00184050 obviously I want to have this entire
dyYqhStq284-00589-00184051-00184302 list of artists
dyYqhStq284-00590-00184303-00184542 I was not brought about like how many of
dyYqhStq284-00591-00184543-00184785 them I didn't know even though I know
dyYqhStq284-00592-00184786-00184989 for sure and but I'm getting very true
dyYqhStq284-00593-00184990-00185256 tourism to your to your voice when you
dyYqhStq284-00594-00185257-00185451 say thank you walk this half area stays
dyYqhStq284-00595-00185452-00185961 in between areas I'm very I suggest if
dyYqhStq284-00596-00185962-00186198 you have questions for these three men
dyYqhStq284-00597-00186199-00186360 maybe you can ask them at the bar
dyYqhStq284-00598-00186361-00186585 because we had need a little bit of time
dyYqhStq284-00599-00186586-00189104 for leader who has already wasn't it
dyYqhStq284-00600-00189105-00189327 now we couldn't see it because we were
dyYqhStq284-00601-00189328-00189540 sitting with our back if you couldn't
dyYqhStq284-00602-00189541-00189906 show them again but I think they will be
dyYqhStq284-00603-00189907-00190293 published it may be or you can I invite
dyYqhStq284-00604-00190294-00190707 you to come and look at them I will show
dyYqhStq284-00605-00190708-00190776 them with pleasure
dyYqhStq284-00606-00190777-00191313 okay time to so thank you very much
dyYqhStq284-00607-00191314-00191586 reader this was the ace at nine number
dyYqhStq284-00608-00191587-00191811 nine so for many things to our guests
dyYqhStq284-00609-00191812-00192030 and even the zebra that it helped me and
dyYqhStq284-00610-00192031-00192390 second second item and of course we do
dyYqhStq284-00611-00192391-00192612 Monica and thank you for being here
dyYqhStq284-00612-00192613-00192933 tonight on the behalf of the A's at
dyYqhStq284-00613-00192934-00193095 night partner set reimburse the
dyYqhStq284-00614-00193096-00193365 perspective as Mia or new partner
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dyYqhStq284-00618-00194095-00194313 you have so you dance when I take
dyYqhStq284-00619-00194314-00194553 to you and good who work together to
dyYqhStq284-00620-00194554-00194772 make these evenings possible in the
dyYqhStq284-00621-00194773-00194919 Flemish community for their financial
dyYqhStq284-00622-00194920-00195237 support of course good to know Co Roma
dyYqhStq284-00623-00195238-00195609 who curated this evening will in
dyYqhStq284-00624-00195610-00195891 framework of Semyonovich research will
dyYqhStq284-00625-00195892-00196203 write a text based on what has set
dyYqhStq284-00626-00196204-00196419 tonight and all the lectures have been
dyYqhStq284-00627-00196420-00196719 filmed so of course you can look back at
dyYqhStq284-00628-00196720-00196857 the artists
dyYqhStq284-00629-00196858-00197199 and as the old one to have now and in a
dyYqhStq284-00630-00197200-00197442 few days you can read seals text on the
dyYqhStq284-00631-00197443-00197679 website of a sec nights and on the
dyYqhStq284-00632-00197680-00197949 Facebook event page and we have a little
dyYqhStq284-00633-00197950-00198279 surprise for you quite exclusively if
dyYqhStq284-00634-00198280-00198705 you go to whim will be behind the bar
dyYqhStq284-00635-00198706-00198932 and make itself known there's women
dyYqhStq284-00636-00198933-00199224 women has a few tickets a few free
dyYqhStq284-00637-00199225-00199488 tickets for performance for first
dyYqhStq284-00638-00199489-00199761 contact by new steadily that is now
dyYqhStq284-00639-00199762-00200097 Friday 22nd and Saturday the 23rd here
dyYqhStq284-00640-00200098-00200376 in this this place we're sitting now
dyYqhStq284-00641-00200377-00200661 it's um it's a performance where Vida
dyYqhStq284-00642-00200662-00200987 made drawings for as well and Stan Maris
dyYqhStq284-00643-00200988-00201282 is playing music together with scar wax
dyYqhStq284-00644-00201283-00201585 and side our Tama the wonderful actress
dyYqhStq284-00645-00201586-00201855 but a beautiful voice will be there so
dyYqhStq284-00646-00201856-00202017 we have a few thickets for your reserve
dyYqhStq284-00647-00202018-00202401 so everybody who wants them go and he
dyYqhStq284-00648-00202402-00202620 will write down your name so it is a
dyYqhStq284-00649-00202621-00202833 really nice thing and so well for the
dyYqhStq284-00650-00202834-00203277 rest and for the rest yeah last but not
dyYqhStq284-00651-00203278-00203451 least we hope to see you again in a
dyYqhStq284-00652-00203452-00203748 month time the 23rd of April but a new
dyYqhStq284-00653-00203749-00204038 theme and nice diverse perspectives
dyYqhStq284-00654-00204039-00204246 perspectives it will be the 10th edition
dyYqhStq284-00655-00204247-00204657 of SF nights and we will give voice to
dyYqhStq284-00656-00204658-00204879 female impact in the world of fashion
dyYqhStq284-00657-00204880-00205350 and design well it seems that in the me
dyYqhStq284-00658-00205351-00205598 to era the prevailing general rules are
dyYqhStq284-00659-00205600-00205887 rewritten also in the word world of art
dyYqhStq284-00660-00205888-00206106 design and fashion so that's very
dyYqhStq284-00661-00206107-00206700 interesting so we will talk to with Pina
dyYqhStq284-00662-00206701-00207060 de mierda an artist from dissidence this
dyYqhStq284-00663-00207061-00207323 exhibition exactly and after a young
dyYqhStq284-00664-00207325-00207542 fashion designer from Antwerp flora
dyYqhStq284-00665-00207544-00207819 Miranda and Debbie sellers and author of
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dyYqhStq284-00669-00208408-00208696 get away the Motor Museum in hasselt and
dyYqhStq284-00670-00208698-00208944 and you will have a first exhibition
dyYqhStq284-00671-00208944-00209529 ever on female designers called wonder
dyYqhStq284-00672-00209530-00209808 women strong women in fashion so let's
dyYqhStq284-00673-00209809-00210054 go to the bar you always see the token
dyYqhStq284-00674-00210055-00210432 for drinks so yeah thank you so much for
dyYqhStq284-00675-00210433-00210709 being here and see you next time
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dyZZchl5gOY-00018-00005652-00005993 waiting to make it you know and I
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dyZZchl5gOY-00024-00007202-00007469 that big it was almost like Tiffin box
dyZZchl5gOY-00025-00007470-00007763 that went inside and it would it'll make
dyZZchl5gOY-00026-00007764-00007973 a quick sound and then and then you
dyZZchl5gOY-00027-00007973-00008128 suddenly see these characters coming
dyZZchl5gOY-00028-00008129-00008357 alive I believe that this character
dyZZchl5gOY-00029-00008358-00008609 lived in die inside that VCR
dyZZchl5gOY-00030-00008610-00008801 that's how naive I was and I remember
dyZZchl5gOY-00031-00008802-00009077 those songs these are the few of my
dyZZchl5gOY-00032-00009078-00009413 favorite things like I have
dyZZchl5gOY-00033-00009414-00009646 I have danced on those songs growing up
dyZZchl5gOY-00034-00009647-00009995 so that's how important that movie was
dyZZchl5gOY-00035-00009996-00010409 to me and to be actually doing those
dyZZchl5gOY-00036-00010410-00010733 songs again was like something that in
dyZZchl5gOY-00037-00010734-00011014 in that interested me but I feel the way
dyZZchl5gOY-00038-00011015-00011188 he wrote the story so then he sent me
dyZZchl5gOY-00039-00011189-00011524 the script and I read the script uh I
dyZZchl5gOY-00040-00011525-00011783 read it again and again again and again
dyZZchl5gOY-00041-00011784-00012023 literally I I thought that was very
dyZZchl5gOY-00042-00012024-00012263 interesting uh
dyZZchl5gOY-00043-00012264-00012533 and for me sound of music is a story
dyZZchl5gOY-00044-00012534-00012778 about these kids who are in a war space
dyZZchl5gOY-00045-00012779-00012929 and where they they have they're running
dyZZchl5gOY-00046-00012930-00013271 away from uh this you know and I think
dyZZchl5gOY-00047-00013272-00013444 children are it's almost like War
dyZZchl5gOY-00048-00013445-00013607 happening on them and they're running
dyZZchl5gOY-00049-00013608-00013919 away from they don't know how to I just
dyZZchl5gOY-00050-00013919-00014561 I I love the way he's written it yeah
dyZZchl5gOY-00051-00014562-00014819 children I have one of my own but they I
dyZZchl5gOY-00052-00014819-00015041 love them and these kids are so talented
dyZZchl5gOY-00053-00015041-00015305 like Sarah spent six months trying to
dyZZchl5gOY-00054-00015306-00015527 find the one that he wanted so they're
dyZZchl5gOY-00055-00015528-00015719 like they all are super good they're
dyZZchl5gOY-00056-00015719-00015935 super talented but you know they talk a
dyZZchl5gOY-00057-00015936-00016008 lot
dyZZchl5gOY-00058-00016009-00016294 they talk so much so we're standing
dyZZchl5gOY-00059-00016295-00016386 there
dyZZchl5gOY-00060-00016387-00016685 they do they literally do so I'm
dyZZchl5gOY-00061-00016686-00016841 standing there and it's literally this
dyZZchl5gOY-00062-00016842-00017033 is the shot and then Adam is there and
dyZZchl5gOY-00063-00017034-00017508 the camera is here and the kids are like
dyZZchl5gOY-00064-00017509-00017850 yeah
dyZZchl5gOY-00065-00017851-00018149 comes out and the other kid comes out so
dyZZchl5gOY-00066-00018150-00018329 they're standing in the line
dyZZchl5gOY-00067-00018330-00018557 so we're thinking we have rehearsed this
dyZZchl5gOY-00068-00018558-00018730 for a month like how difficult can this
dyZZchl5gOY-00069-00018731-00018953 be to do it in Goa
dyZZchl5gOY-00070-00018954-00019133 and I'm standing there concentrating
dyZZchl5gOY-00071-00019134-00019330 it's really hot that we will get it in
dyZZchl5gOY-00072-00019331-00019703 one shot suddenly so what sir says ready
dyZZchl5gOY-00073-00019704-00019985 ready I don't like my hair can I have
dyZZchl5gOY-00074-00019986-00020243 shreya's costume my hair is too long can
dyZZchl5gOY-00075-00020244-00020477 you tie it up I don't know but I have to
dyZZchl5gOY-00076-00020478-00020621 study after this what are you talking
dyZZchl5gOY-00077-00020622-00020872 about don't touch me you you touch me I
dyZZchl5gOY-00078-00020873-00021107 will touch you you touch me and I'm like
dyZZchl5gOY-00079-00021108-00021257 shut up
dyZZchl5gOY-00080-00021258-00021472 that's how it is like they talk non-stop
dyZZchl5gOY-00081-00021473-00021833 like Non-Stop back like that like
dyZZchl5gOY-00082-00021834-00022000 literally the sky actually blew the blue
dyZZchl5gOY-00083-00022001-00022157 sky and the white blouse and the glove
dyZZchl5gOY-00084-00022158-00022528 I'm like how do you how how like where
dyZZchl5gOY-00085-00022529-00022769 does it come from but the best part of
dyZZchl5gOY-00086-00022770-00023027 the student of Germany films is that and
dyZZchl5gOY-00087-00023028-00023243 I'm very proud of it like I always uh I
dyZZchl5gOY-00088-00023244-00023411 get really upset when I'm shooting with
dyZZchl5gOY-00089-00023412-00023650 kids is because children have a schedule
dyZZchl5gOY-00090-00023651-00023867 they sleep at certain time they have to
dyZZchl5gOY-00091-00023868-00024047 wake up and then you know it's a
dyZZchl5gOY-00092-00024048-00024364 schedule they follow and they were very
dyZZchl5gOY-00093-00024365-00024653 nice they gave them all a car and the
dyZZchl5gOY-00094-00024654-00024941 parents were always uh coming with the
dyZZchl5gOY-00095-00024942-00025097 children
dyZZchl5gOY-00096-00025098-00025378 um and so they always had you know they
dyZZchl5gOY-00097-00025379-00025594 were they were under protection and and
dyZZchl5gOY-00098-00025595-00025793 all the uh all the all the assistant
dyZZchl5gOY-00099-00025794-00026014 directors were extremely loving and nice
dyZZchl5gOY-00100-00026016-00026243 to all these kids in fact now the power
dyZZchl5gOY-00101-00026244-00026431 of family like I was out in a hotel
dyZZchl5gOY-00102-00026432-00026699 promoting my film some film and then
dyZZchl5gOY-00103-00026700-00026867 they were all like having breakfast
dyZZchl5gOY-00104-00026868-00027167 there and they're like yeah and I'm like
dyZZchl5gOY-00105-00027168-00027502 what like some five kids running from
dyZZchl5gOY-00106-00027504-00027695 One Direction two coming from here
dyZZchl5gOY-00107-00027695-00027917 holding Milad and pulling me so that's
dyZZchl5gOY-00108-00027918-00028102 that's the kind of relationship with
dyZZchl5gOY-00109-00028104-00028373 Bill and Sherman loves them like he had
dyZZchl5gOY-00110-00028374-00028643 those kids because he himself are three
dyZZchl5gOY-00111-00028644-00028973 kids so that goes without saying but
dyZZchl5gOY-00112-00028974-00029795 yeah it was lovely working with them
dyZZchl5gOY-00113-00029795-00029999 so Sean I've known him from years
dyZZchl5gOY-00114-00030000-00030293 because it's like his wife is my very
dyZZchl5gOY-00115-00030294-00030467 good friend sister-in-law and all of
dyZZchl5gOY-00116-00030468-00030673 that so I've known him for years
dyZZchl5gOY-00117-00030674-00031067 but uh and then he's very like you know
dyZZchl5gOY-00118-00031068-00031324 sweet welcoming guy if you go to his
dyZZchl5gOY-00119-00031325-00031577 house very sweet very welcoming like
dyZZchl5gOY-00120-00031577-00031885 there'll be food laid out like full
dyZZchl5gOY-00121-00031886-00032249 Bengali food and all this is fully
dyZZchl5gOY-00122-00032250-00032464 Gujarati so then there's a Gujarati
dyZZchl5gOY-00123-00032466-00032633 counter Bengali counted like the love
dyZZchl5gOY-00124-00032633-00032896 serving people like they love it and
dyZZchl5gOY-00125-00032897-00033029 they love music and there's always
dyZZchl5gOY-00126-00033030-00033221 somebody singing in the house cartoon
dyZZchl5gOY-00127-00033222-00033485 I'm shooting with him so I'm all like
dyZZchl5gOY-00128-00033486-00033617 you know
dyZZchl5gOY-00129-00033618-00033851 I know him but in his I know his his
dyZZchl5gOY-00130-00033852-00034090 wife is a good friend
dyZZchl5gOY-00131-00034091-00034277 and we're doing a scene as a serious
dyZZchl5gOY-00132-00034278-00034595 scene it's a very serious scene we are
dyZZchl5gOY-00133-00034596-00034865 finding somebody where the scene is also
dyZZchl5gOY-00134-00034866-00035099 in in the in the trailer
dyZZchl5gOY-00135-00035100-00035267 and I have to be serious like I
dyZZchl5gOY-00136-00035268-00035483 literally have tears in my eyes my tears
dyZZchl5gOY-00137-00035484-00035645 are because I'm laughing and not
dyZZchl5gOY-00138-00035646-00035855 laughing non-stop because this man can
dyZZchl5gOY-00139-00035856-00036017 make you laugh
dyZZchl5gOY-00140-00036018-00036274 he does that go an accent he does the
dyZZchl5gOY-00141-00036275-00036707 Saxon he just goes Non-Stop
dyZZchl5gOY-00142-00036708-00036899 he will make you laugh and from there
dyZZchl5gOY-00143-00036900-00037531 Papa said like shut up
dyZZchl5gOY-00144-00037532-00037793 they're like kids and then there are
dyZZchl5gOY-00145-00037794-00038087 these kids so he was like angry with us
dyZZchl5gOY-00146-00038088-00038357 the whole time and we were just laughing
dyZZchl5gOY-00147-00038358-00038518 the whole time because that man can
dyZZchl5gOY-00148-00038519-00038711 really make you laugh
dyZZchl5gOY-00149-00038712-00038939 and so he with a straight face so it was
dyZZchl5gOY-00150-00038940-00039107 really hard doing the scene because I
dyZZchl5gOY-00151-00039108-00040246 just couldn't stop laughing
dyZZchl5gOY-00152-00040247-00040474 item songs I haven't done an item song
dyZZchl5gOY-00153-00040475-00040649 since the time I don't know how many
dyZZchl5gOY-00154-00040650-00041021 years
dyZZchl5gOY-00155-00041022-00041380 haven't done an item sound
dyZZchl5gOY-00156-00041381-00041759 song yeah
dyZZchl5gOY-00157-00041760-00042040 you wanna see me an items so you tell me
dyZZchl5gOY-00158-00042041-00042202 I have a feeling you want to see me an
dyZZchl5gOY-00159-00042203-00042539 idol song sir you have hidden agenda sir
dyZZchl5gOY-00160-00042540-00042677 your feelings like that you should say
dyZZchl5gOY-00161-00042678-00042827 you go tell the producers when you go
dyZZchl5gOY-00162-00042828-00043127 for other events you say I will not come
dyZZchl5gOY-00163-00043128-00043349 if you don't get free and items items on
dyZZchl5gOY-00164-00043350-00043552 shares there I'm not coming say you
dyZZchl5gOY-00165-00043553-00043745 would demand things like that I'm
dyZZchl5gOY-00166-00043746-00043889 teaching you how to be demanding sir
dyZZchl5gOY-00167-00043890-00044437 yeah last question please
dyZZchl5gOY-00168-00044438-00044789 oh that's very bad and I can't learn uh
dyZZchl5gOY-00169-00044790-00044987 I can learn dialogues but I can't so if
dyZZchl5gOY-00170-00044988-00045239 I do have Tamil film again I'll get the
dyZZchl5gOY-00171-00045240-00045412 hang of it but then I forget very fast
dyZZchl5gOY-00172-00045413-00045665 it's very bad and my uh any language
dyZZchl5gOY-00173-00045666-00045952 that I learned so that's what my uh my
dyZZchl5gOY-00174-00045953-00046108 nephew was saying Hindi you can't take
dyZZchl5gOY-00175-00046109-00046265 talk properly English you can't talk
dyZZchl5gOY-00176-00046266-00046480 properly which language do you talk
dyZZchl5gOY-00177-00046481-00046762 because my e and I are a problem so half
dyZZchl5gOY-00178-00046763-00047039 of the time I'm not saying those words
dyZZchl5gOY-00179-00047040-00047255 so I so when I when I was to write
dyZZchl5gOY-00180-00047256-00047471 English in school I used to write so
dyZZchl5gOY-00181-00047472-00047699 that much smartness also I have my
dyZZchl5gOY-00182-00047700-00047867 English teachers to look at me call me
dyZZchl5gOY-00183-00047868-00048083 and give me a hug I'm not kidding one
dyZZchl5gOY-00184-00048084-00048245 day share tears and eyes she said I
dyZZchl5gOY-00185-00048246-00048340 don't know how to teach you I would
dyZZchl5gOY-00186-00048341-00048779 write f e e l one first next f-i-e-l
dyZZchl5gOY-00187-00048780-00049193 third fbil
dyZZchl5gOY-00188-00049194-00049390 because you don't know which is right
dyZZchl5gOY-00189-00049391-00050280 let's try all
dyZZchl5gOY-00190-00050281-00050579 I don't know I try to check it all the
dyZZchl5gOY-00191-00050580-00050783 time because you know the moment you say
dyZZchl5gOY-00192-00050784-00051130 my child my child my child is oh my God
dyZZchl5gOY-00193-00051131-00051340 you know oh my God my child is beautiful
dyZZchl5gOY-00194-00051341-00051575 and my child is
dyZZchl5gOY-00195-00051576-00051887 that is that's an extension of an ego
dyZZchl5gOY-00196-00051888-00052073 there isn't you it you have to
dyZZchl5gOY-00197-00052074-00052325 deliberately remind yourself that you
dyZZchl5gOY-00198-00052326-00052582 have to cut from your ego it's it's a
dyZZchl5gOY-00199-00052583-00052799 child it's it's Radha
dyZZchl5gOY-00200-00052800-00053082 so Radha is walking Radha is talking
dyZZchl5gOY-00201-00053083-00053321 Radha knows colors
dyZZchl5gOY-00202-00053322-00053537 but you can't keep saying my child my
dyZZchl5gOY-00203-00053538-00053716 child because that is
dyZZchl5gOY-00204-00053717-00053987 I mean if you think about it it is and
dyZZchl5gOY-00205-00053988-00054166 then it goes into my child will go to
dyZZchl5gOY-00206-00054167-00054316 school and my child will do well in
dyZZchl5gOY-00207-00054317-00054888 studies
dyZZchl5gOY-00208-00054889-00055103 unknowingly annoyingly it becomes an
dyZZchl5gOY-00209-00055104-00055282 extension of your ego sir you have to
dyZZchl5gOY-00210-00055283-00055499 keep reminding yourself that's what I
dyZZchl5gOY-00211-00055500-00055673 feel as a parent but everyone is
dyZZchl5gOY-00212-00055674-00057480 different
dyZZchl5gOY-00213-00057482-00057730 is it like a promotion to that it's not
dyZZchl5gOY-00214-00057732-00058037 but that's true in in school called most
dyZZchl5gOY-00215-00058038-00058175 of the school dance is not even a
dyZZchl5gOY-00216-00058176-00058288 subject
dyZZchl5gOY-00217-00058289-00058594 uh art still is but nonsense music is
dyZZchl5gOY-00218-00058595-00058732 not even a subject so you want to say so
dyZZchl5gOY-00219-00058733-00058900 he said it's like this one is going to
dyZZchl5gOY-00220-00058901-00059392 talk Non-Stop
dyZZchl5gOY-00221-00059394-00059797 yeah yeah thank you
dyZZchl5gOY-00222-00059798-00060076 I can't understand once more time sir
dyZZchl5gOY-00223-00060077-00060275 are you shouting at me are you angry
dyZZchl5gOY-00224-00060276-00061044 with me
dyZZchl5gOY-00225-00061045-00061979 thank you
dyZZchl5gOY-00226-00061979-00062123 like a beautiful teacher is there the
dyZZchl5gOY-00227-00062124-00062273 students will get more attached maybe
dyZZchl5gOY-00228-00062274-00062519 like he's reference I am not kidding my
dyZZchl5gOY-00229-00062520-00062735 mother was a community teacher super hot
dyZZchl5gOY-00230-00062736-00063450 all my friends had a crush on her
dyZZchl5gOY-00231-00063451-00063761 gifts and letters and she had this
dyZZchl5gOY-00232-00063762-00063953 beautiful long hair and they for the
dyZZchl5gOY-00233-00063954-00064363 long even till today yes
dyZZchl5gOY-00234-00064364-00064715 daughter so it happens yeah but no one
dyZZchl5gOY-00235-00064716-00064925 had a crush on me on this film it's not
dyZZchl5gOY-00236-00064926-00065141 that kind of film sir yeah thank you so
dyZZchl5gOY-00237-00065141-00065285 much thank you
dyZZchl5gOY-00238-00065286-00067843 facility
dyZZchl5gOY-00239-00067844-00068168 these are the
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dCAYo35ddGE-00000-00000003-00000188 you might be watching this video because
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dCAYo35ddGE-00049-00013434-00013691 expressions can set the tone or as Don
dCAYo35ddGE-00050-00013691-00013997 Henley said in his 1982 Thunder tea
dCAYo35ddGE-00051-00013997-00014285 laundry about the news industry we got
dCAYo35ddGE-00052-00014286-00014438 the bubble-headed bleached blonde who
dCAYo35ddGE-00053-00014438-00014759 comes on and ah she can tell you about
dCAYo35ddGE-00054-00014760-00014978 the plane crash when is a gleam in her
dCAYo35ddGE-00055-00014979-00015296 eyes that's what you want to avoid quick
dCAYo35ddGE-00056-00015297-00015691 agreement don't look she don't look
dCAYo35ddGE-00057-00015693-00015988 incongruent make your verbal and your
dCAYo35ddGE-00058-00015990-00016372 nonverbals match to be congruent and
dCAYo35ddGE-00059-00016373-00016643 have credibility with your audience you
dCAYo35ddGE-00060-00016644-00016766 need to make sure that your facial
dCAYo35ddGE-00061-00016767-00017003 expressions are congruent with your tone
dCAYo35ddGE-00062-00017004-00017420 and the message that you're delivering
dCAYo35ddGE-00063-00017421-00017858 [Music]
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dDRxmfimWY0-00001-00002956-00003727 [Music]
dDRxmfimWY0-00002-00003728-00004031 hi les from quito from fat to thin i've
dDRxmfimWY0-00003-00004032-00004183 been missing off youtube for a little
dDRxmfimWY0-00004-00004184-00004447 while because one i came off the key job
dDRxmfimWY0-00005-00004448-00004670 because it was my birthday and then we
dDRxmfimWY0-00006-00004671-00004886 went on a little holiday and you can't
dDRxmfimWY0-00007-00004887-00005111 go quito in thailand
dDRxmfimWY0-00008-00005112-00005311 because everywhere you go they put sugar
dDRxmfimWY0-00009-00005312-00005479 into everything so i had a little break
dDRxmfimWY0-00010-00005480-00005702 off quito and i've been very busy
dDRxmfimWY0-00011-00005703-00005983 because i'm back on keto now and i'm on
dDRxmfimWY0-00012-00005984-00006247 my way back down to 95 kilo again today
dDRxmfimWY0-00013-00006248-00006331 i'm
dDRxmfimWY0-00014-00006332-00006631 97.6 kilos so
dDRxmfimWY0-00015-00006631-00006823 i'm going to go down to at least 90
dDRxmfimWY0-00016-00006823-00007167 kilos this time on the keto diet so i've
dDRxmfimWY0-00017-00007168-00007431 been very busy whilst i've been
dDRxmfimWY0-00018-00007431-00007655 in between the keto diet and i'd like
dDRxmfimWY0-00019-00007656-00007855 you to have a look at this website i've
dDRxmfimWY0-00020-00007856-00008063 done a website and it's got lots and
dDRxmfimWY0-00021-00008064-00008255 lots and lots of information about the
dDRxmfimWY0-00022-00008256-00008471 keto diet there's several videos on
dDRxmfimWY0-00023-00008472-00008703 there that show you the people who
dDRxmfimWY0-00024-00008704-00008999 inspired me to go under the keto there's
dDRxmfimWY0-00025-00009000-00009287 there's lots of articles on here you can
dDRxmfimWY0-00026-00009288-00009527 look through various videos and the
dDRxmfimWY0-00027-00009528-00009846 about me page there's a free download on
dDRxmfimWY0-00028-00009847-00010127 ebook is about the keto it's more of a
dDRxmfimWY0-00029-00010128-00010391 lifestyle than the diet so if you want
dDRxmfimWY0-00030-00010392-00010599 to get a free copy of this go and have a
dDRxmfimWY0-00031-00010600-00010742 look at my
dDRxmfimWY0-00032-00010743-00011078 website it's which is keto online dot
dDRxmfimWY0-00033-00011079-00011263 org i'm going to put a link down here
dDRxmfimWY0-00034-00011264-00011383 which will take you straight to my
dDRxmfimWY0-00035-00011384-00011670 website have a look it's got vast amount
dDRxmfimWY0-00036-00011671-00011927 of information with various articles and
dDRxmfimWY0-00037-00011928-00012174 all and everything to do with keto
dDRxmfimWY0-00038-00012175-00012446 the different books different loads of
dDRxmfimWY0-00039-00012447-00012623 information it's far too much to say
dDRxmfimWY0-00040-00012624-00012767 here on the video
dDRxmfimWY0-00041-00012768-00012935 but now i'm back on my keto i'm going to
dDRxmfimWY0-00042-00012936-00013238 be doing my recipes every week
dDRxmfimWY0-00043-00013240-00013383 so for those people who are interested
dDRxmfimWY0-00044-00013384-00013543 in following me have a look at this
dDRxmfimWY0-00045-00013544-00013775 website it's a for me it's a brilliant
dDRxmfimWY0-00046-00013776-00014015 website lots and lots of information
dDRxmfimWY0-00047-00014016-00014175 there and it's got links to all the
dDRxmfimWY0-00048-00014176-00014375 products through amazon if you want to
dDRxmfimWY0-00049-00014376-00014622 order online and it's a good source of
dDRxmfimWY0-00050-00014623-00014838 inspiration for those people because
dDRxmfimWY0-00051-00014840-00015063 there's plenty of articles and plenty of
dDRxmfimWY0-00052-00015063-00015263 motivational videos
dDRxmfimWY0-00053-00015263-00015494 just go give it have a look and as i say
dDRxmfimWY0-00054-00015495-00015694 you can download this free
dDRxmfimWY0-00055-00015695-00015830 ebook
dDRxmfimWY0-00056-00015831-00016038 from the about me section
dDRxmfimWY0-00057-00016040-00016183 and for those people are looking at the
dDRxmfimWY0-00058-00016184-00016503 video through a ipad or or or a
dDRxmfimWY0-00059-00016504-00016663 telephone something like that where you
dDRxmfimWY0-00060-00016664-00016830 can't download it
dDRxmfimWY0-00061-00016831-00017119 send me an email send me email down
dDRxmfimWY0-00062-00017120-00017422 below to to this address here and i'll
dDRxmfimWY0-00063-00017423-00017711 send you the free copy of the
dDRxmfimWY0-00064-00017712-00017950 keto diet more of a lifestyle than a
dDRxmfimWY0-00065-00017951-00018175 diet so from less on the keto diet from
dDRxmfimWY0-00066-00018176-00018430 fat to slim to the next video bye for
dDRxmfimWY0-00067-00018431-00018731 now
dExxhKSxYh8-00000-00000256-00001846 [Music]
dExxhKSxYh8-00001-00001847-00002182 [Music]
dExxhKSxYh8-00002-00002183-00003197 [Laughter]
dExxhKSxYh8-00003-00003198-00003476 that it is it getting
dExxhKSxYh8-00004-00003477-00004299 [Applause]
dExxhKSxYh8-00005-00004300-00007065 [Laughter]
dExxhKSxYh8-00006-00007066-00007698 [Music]
dExxhKSxYh8-00007-00007698-00010489 Troy Jeffrey
dExxhKSxYh8-00008-00010490-00011391 [Music]
dExxhKSxYh8-00009-00011392-00012729 [Music]
dExxhKSxYh8-00010-00012730-00013425 [Applause]
dExxhKSxYh8-00011-00013426-00016385 [Music]
dExxhKSxYh8-00012-00016386-00018864 [Applause]
dExxhKSxYh8-00013-00018865-00019721 [Laughter]
dExxhKSxYh8-00014-00019722-00020983 [Applause]
dExxhKSxYh8-00016-00025989-00026705 [Music]
dExxhKSxYh8-00017-00026706-00028439 [Applause]
dExxhKSxYh8-00018-00028439-00030614 okay
dExxhKSxYh8-00019-00030616-00031781 [Music]
dExxhKSxYh8-00020-00031782-00032408 stop
dExxhKSxYh8-00022-00036666-00037234 [Applause]
dExxhKSxYh8-00023-00037235-00037901 [Music]
dExxhKSxYh8-00024-00037902-00039125 right the book was kind of dark too
dExxhKSxYh8-00025-00039126-00040640 [Applause]
dExxhKSxYh8-00026-00040641-00040642 [Applause]
dExxhKSxYh8-00027-00040643-00040807 [Music]
dExxhKSxYh8-00029-00043913-00045367 [Music]
dExxhKSxYh8-00030-00045368-00045792 Oh
dExxhKSxYh8-00031-00045793-00047964 [Music]
dExxhKSxYh8-00032-00047965-00048372 [Laughter]
dExxhKSxYh8-00033-00048373-00049814 [Music]
dExxhKSxYh8-00034-00049815-00051444 [Music]
dExxhKSxYh8-00035-00051445-00051908 [Applause]
dExxhKSxYh8-00036-00051909-00052912 [Music]
dExxhKSxYh8-00037-00052913-00053375 alright you got
dExxhKSxYh8-00038-00053376-00055590 you
dExxhKSxYh8-00039-00055591-00057515 [Laughter]
dExxhKSxYh8-00040-00057516-00057570 [Music]
dExxhKSxYh8-00041-00057571-00058539 [Applause]
dExxhKSxYh8-00042-00058540-00059199 [Music]
dExxhKSxYh8-00043-00059200-00060425 [Music]
dExxhKSxYh8-00044-00060426-00060679 first demonstrating his imagine ninja
dExxhKSxYh8-00045-00060679-00062774 skills
dExxhKSxYh8-00046-00062775-00063988 [Music]
dExxhKSxYh8-00047-00063989-00064659 [Applause]
dExxhKSxYh8-00048-00064660-00066041 [Applause]
dExxhKSxYh8-00049-00066042-00066669 so muggy more attack
dExxhKSxYh8-00050-00066670-00068500 [Music]
dExxhKSxYh8-00051-00068501-00068692 [Laughter]
dExxhKSxYh8-00052-00068693-00069970 going on a bear hunt
dExxhKSxYh8-00053-00069971-00072236 [Music]
dExxhKSxYh8-00054-00072237-00072866 pipe is not failarmy
dExxhKSxYh8-00055-00072867-00074709 straight mitsurugi style
dExxhKSxYh8-00056-00074710-00074916 you
dGqIMqJkEL4-00000-00001607-00001695 hey youtube
dGqIMqJkEL4-00001-00001696-00001887 just like this uh thing with this latest
dGqIMqJkEL4-00002-00001888-00002030 like video is tripping me out
dGqIMqJkEL4-00003-00002032-00002247 i'll show you what i'm talking about i
dGqIMqJkEL4-00004-00002248-00002487 get this notification
dGqIMqJkEL4-00005-00002488-00002639 you see it right here under under my
dGqIMqJkEL4-00006-00002640-00002895 picture the revelation will be published
dGqIMqJkEL4-00007-00002896-00003079 here comes the chalkboard of i don't
dGqIMqJkEL4-00008-00003080-00003335 know probably information who knows
dGqIMqJkEL4-00009-00003336-00003670 and then you go to click on the link
dGqIMqJkEL4-00010-00003671-00003911 forgive me but my mouse is giving me a
dGqIMqJkEL4-00011-00003911-00004006 lot of trouble
dGqIMqJkEL4-00012-00004007-00004359 my ram it's a ram issue i think
dGqIMqJkEL4-00013-00004360-00004670 and it says content unavailable
dGqIMqJkEL4-00014-00004671-00004919 video contains content from ebu i don't
dGqIMqJkEL4-00015-00004920-00005031 know who ebu
dGqIMqJkEL4-00016-00005032-00005375 is but uh somebody that he's
dGqIMqJkEL4-00017-00005376-00005654 apparently uh done a clip using some of
dGqIMqJkEL4-00018-00005655-00005822 the data something like that
dGqIMqJkEL4-00019-00005823-00006063 okay so blocked content is blocked
dGqIMqJkEL4-00020-00006064-00006151 content
dGqIMqJkEL4-00021-00006152-00006495 period even if he sent his notifications
dGqIMqJkEL4-00022-00006495-00006870 out only to his subscribers
dGqIMqJkEL4-00023-00006872-00007134 still his subscribers would be blocked
dGqIMqJkEL4-00024-00007136-00007198 from viewing
dGqIMqJkEL4-00025-00007200-00007519 copyrighted content true or false
dGqIMqJkEL4-00026-00007520-00007895 now last night when i went to sleep
dGqIMqJkEL4-00027-00007895-00008095 there were quite a few likes and
dGqIMqJkEL4-00028-00008095-00008263 dislikes on a video
dGqIMqJkEL4-00029-00008264-00008455 that you can't even view the content and
dGqIMqJkEL4-00030-00008456-00008614 i made a video of that
dGqIMqJkEL4-00031-00008615-00008871 okay and references in my comment
dGqIMqJkEL4-00032-00008872-00008951 section
dGqIMqJkEL4-00033-00008952-00009263 i get up and cherie jay um says
dGqIMqJkEL4-00034-00009264-00009703 now it's up to 123 likes and 17
dGqIMqJkEL4-00035-00009704-00010031 uh down or dislikes right now
dGqIMqJkEL4-00036-00010032-00010351 let me thumbs it down sure
dGqIMqJkEL4-00037-00010352-00010671 you crack me up that's funny so
dGqIMqJkEL4-00038-00010672-00011014 okay so how is it that there's all these
dGqIMqJkEL4-00039-00011015-00011174 likes and dislikes
dGqIMqJkEL4-00040-00011175-00011423 yet the content's not even viewable and
dGqIMqJkEL4-00041-00011424-00011678 how is it that we even have this option
dGqIMqJkEL4-00042-00011679-00011878 to like or dislike if the content's not
dGqIMqJkEL4-00043-00011879-00012038 even viewable
dGqIMqJkEL4-00044-00012039-00012359 this makes no sense at all i mean not
dGqIMqJkEL4-00045-00012360-00012574 at all so i'm starting to think that
dGqIMqJkEL4-00046-00012575-00012735 this whole jonathan collect thing
dGqIMqJkEL4-00047-00012736-00013127 is like one big flipping psyop
dGqIMqJkEL4-00048-00013128-00013479 if you look at the puny turnout that he
dGqIMqJkEL4-00049-00013480-00013630 had in grand junction
dGqIMqJkEL4-00050-00013631-00014063 i mean for a guy that has 160 136 000
dGqIMqJkEL4-00051-00014063-00014375 plus subscribers anybody
dGqIMqJkEL4-00052-00014376-00014535 if he had a couple hundred people there
dGqIMqJkEL4-00053-00014536-00014694 he'd be lucky
dGqIMqJkEL4-00054-00014695-00015007 um it just it just
dGqIMqJkEL4-00055-00015008-00015215 it doesn't jive it doesn't it's not
dGqIMqJkEL4-00056-00015216-00015335 adding up to me
dGqIMqJkEL4-00057-00015336-00015503 i mean if he's got all these followings
dGqIMqJkEL4-00058-00015504-00015679 and everything now i know you can go on
dGqIMqJkEL4-00059-00015680-00015783 fiverr
dGqIMqJkEL4-00060-00015784-00016103 and i know you can buy likes and
dGqIMqJkEL4-00061-00016104-00016430 views and comments and things like that
dGqIMqJkEL4-00062-00016431-00016550 and i also know that a lot of his
dGqIMqJkEL4-00063-00016551-00016719 subscribers have multiple channels i've
dGqIMqJkEL4-00064-00016720-00016799 seen it
dGqIMqJkEL4-00065-00016800-00017022 that go oh love you jonathan been
dGqIMqJkEL4-00066-00017023-00017103 waiting all day
dGqIMqJkEL4-00067-00017104-00017239 blah blah blah you know signing another
dGqIMqJkEL4-00068-00017240-00017422 screen name and go oh
dGqIMqJkEL4-00069-00017423-00017558 i've been waiting waiting waiting and
dGqIMqJkEL4-00070-00017559-00017767 you know i mean so they're hyping
dGqIMqJkEL4-00071-00017768-00018007 uh his view counts and given the
dGqIMqJkEL4-00072-00018008-00018150 illusion that uh
dGqIMqJkEL4-00073-00018151-00018358 the more people are buying into his
dGqIMqJkEL4-00074-00018359-00018535 garbage than they are maybe
dGqIMqJkEL4-00075-00018536-00018655 so i'm starting to think that this whole
dGqIMqJkEL4-00076-00018656-00019103 thing is possibly just one big psyop
dGqIMqJkEL4-00077-00019104-00019358 because my stuff is getting buried
dGqIMqJkEL4-00078-00019359-00019494 clearly i've still watched my view
dGqIMqJkEL4-00079-00019495-00019575 counts fall fall
dGqIMqJkEL4-00080-00019576-00019879 fall yet you know my thumbs up ratings
dGqIMqJkEL4-00081-00019880-00020086 and things like that
dGqIMqJkEL4-00082-00020087-00020222 is very good and people seem to be
dGqIMqJkEL4-00083-00020223-00020486 digging the videos but yet how is it
dGqIMqJkEL4-00084-00020487-00020678 uh my subscriber counts are staying
dGqIMqJkEL4-00085-00020679-00020830 pretty much the same
dGqIMqJkEL4-00086-00020831-00021119 and uh my view counts are just crashing
dGqIMqJkEL4-00087-00021120-00021247 i know a lot of other channels have been
dGqIMqJkEL4-00088-00021248-00021414 having the same problem too
dGqIMqJkEL4-00089-00021415-00021703 so i'm smelling a big old fat rat here
dGqIMqJkEL4-00090-00021704-00021839 you know a lot of people having problems
dGqIMqJkEL4-00091-00021840-00021927 with youtube
dGqIMqJkEL4-00092-00021928-00022143 and then demonetization and stuff like
dGqIMqJkEL4-00093-00022144-00022263 that
dGqIMqJkEL4-00094-00022264-00022471 and it seems like youtube's trying to
dGqIMqJkEL4-00095-00022472-00022567 starve them out
dGqIMqJkEL4-00096-00022568-00022799 i don't monetize my videos at all you
dGqIMqJkEL4-00097-00022800-00022903 know my my
dGqIMqJkEL4-00098-00022904-00023158 stuff is actually i never even asked for
dGqIMqJkEL4-00099-00023159-00023335 my support you know a couple years ago
dGqIMqJkEL4-00100-00023336-00023399 and then
dGqIMqJkEL4-00101-00023400-00023719 that was kind of sporadic um asked for
dGqIMqJkEL4-00102-00023720-00023919 some help on time for some glasses
dGqIMqJkEL4-00103-00023920-00024150 and a nice lady sent me not one but two
dGqIMqJkEL4-00104-00024151-00024271 pair of reading glasses
dGqIMqJkEL4-00105-00024272-00024486 and then lately you guys have chipped in
dGqIMqJkEL4-00106-00024487-00024639 and helped me
dGqIMqJkEL4-00107-00024640-00024894 get my truck back on the road so that
dGqIMqJkEL4-00108-00024895-00025030 they can get back up the hill start
dGqIMqJkEL4-00109-00025031-00025183 feeding kids which we're real close to
dGqIMqJkEL4-00110-00025184-00025319 doing this truck has been sitting here
dGqIMqJkEL4-00111-00025320-00025399 for two weeks
dGqIMqJkEL4-00112-00025400-00025694 i've only moved about 25 feet because i
dGqIMqJkEL4-00113-00025695-00025767 was ill
dGqIMqJkEL4-00114-00025768-00025974 as i could be i i had to stay real close
dGqIMqJkEL4-00115-00025975-00026118 to home because my
dGqIMqJkEL4-00116-00026119-00026318 stomach was just totally messed up i
dGqIMqJkEL4-00117-00026319-00026479 could not even dream of leaving the
dGqIMqJkEL4-00118-00026480-00026558 house
dGqIMqJkEL4-00119-00026560-00026799 and but now i'm you know a lot better
dGqIMqJkEL4-00120-00026800-00026927 things are looking good
dGqIMqJkEL4-00121-00026927-00027039 so we're going to be back up feeding
dGqIMqJkEL4-00122-00027039-00027167 kids here real soon we've already got
dGqIMqJkEL4-00123-00027168-00027255 the money for this
dGqIMqJkEL4-00124-00027256-00027639 this cycle feeding but uh for those that
dGqIMqJkEL4-00125-00027639-00027879 do want to contribute for the next cycle
dGqIMqJkEL4-00126-00027880-00028007 you know keep us in mind it would be
dGqIMqJkEL4-00127-00028008-00028287 great and those that did contribute to
dGqIMqJkEL4-00128-00028288-00028351 helping
dGqIMqJkEL4-00129-00028352-00028495 with the truck we tremendously
dGqIMqJkEL4-00130-00028495-00028662 appreciate it because we were we were
dGqIMqJkEL4-00131-00028663-00028735 upside down
dGqIMqJkEL4-00132-00028736-00028967 you know i can only spread my social
dGqIMqJkEL4-00133-00028968-00029118 security so thin
dGqIMqJkEL4-00134-00029119-00029302 uh those of you that know me know i sold
dGqIMqJkEL4-00135-00029304-00029455 my company to a friend of mine i've done
dGqIMqJkEL4-00136-00029456-00029614 for 20 years and
dGqIMqJkEL4-00137-00029616-00029831 he started doing coke and drinking and
dGqIMqJkEL4-00138-00029832-00029927 crashing trucks and
dGqIMqJkEL4-00139-00029927-00030127 i didn't have to take the business back
dGqIMqJkEL4-00140-00030127-00030231 and
dGqIMqJkEL4-00141-00030232-00030390 when i sold it the business was on top
dGqIMqJkEL4-00142-00030391-00030574 of the market when i got it back it was
dGqIMqJkEL4-00143-00030575-00030743 on the bottom of the market so
dGqIMqJkEL4-00144-00030744-00030935 that hurt me real real bad and kind of
dGqIMqJkEL4-00145-00030936-00031143 jacked up my retirement plans
dGqIMqJkEL4-00146-00031144-00031495 and so now we're you know doing this uh
dGqIMqJkEL4-00147-00031495-00031631 social security thing and irvy's trying
dGqIMqJkEL4-00148-00031632-00031855 to get a little cafe thing going
dGqIMqJkEL4-00149-00031856-00032079 and to be honest it's a loser and i'm
dGqIMqJkEL4-00150-00032080-00032358 actually actually subsidizing
dGqIMqJkEL4-00151-00032360-00032670 that he's not even making a profit to
dGqIMqJkEL4-00152-00032672-00032902 pay all her bills so but getting back to
dGqIMqJkEL4-00153-00032903-00033087 this thing with uh jonathan kleck
dGqIMqJkEL4-00154-00033088-00033223 all right we need some people that know
dGqIMqJkEL4-00155-00033224-00033518 something about this i i'm not
dGqIMqJkEL4-00156-00033519-00033846 you know a computer guru when it comes
dGqIMqJkEL4-00157-00033847-00034127 to stuff like this
dGqIMqJkEL4-00158-00034128-00034431 if you know somebody that is into
dGqIMqJkEL4-00159-00034432-00034646 computers and algorithms and how things
dGqIMqJkEL4-00160-00034647-00034695 work
dGqIMqJkEL4-00161-00034696-00034918 and hacking and all this stuff can you
dGqIMqJkEL4-00162-00034919-00035062 do me a favor and share this video with
dGqIMqJkEL4-00163-00035063-00035167 them and let's try to get to the bottom
dGqIMqJkEL4-00164-00035168-00035207 of this
dGqIMqJkEL4-00165-00035208-00035518 because i'm starting to suspect kleck's
dGqIMqJkEL4-00166-00035519-00035751 whole ministry i'm starting to suspect
dGqIMqJkEL4-00167-00035752-00036030 it's not as big as he claims he's not
dGqIMqJkEL4-00168-00036031-00036262 getting the views that he claims
dGqIMqJkEL4-00169-00036263-00036799 um this thing with all these thumbs up
dGqIMqJkEL4-00170-00036800-00036967 and then the thumbs down and you can't
dGqIMqJkEL4-00171-00036968-00037111 even view the video
dGqIMqJkEL4-00172-00037112-00037367 i mean how is that possible how is it
dGqIMqJkEL4-00173-00037368-00037502 possible to view
dGqIMqJkEL4-00174-00037503-00037702 a video with copywriting content you can
dGqIMqJkEL4-00175-00037703-00037830 see right here on the screen
dGqIMqJkEL4-00176-00037831-00038207 clear as day so um
dGqIMqJkEL4-00177-00038208-00038462 it says down here he's got 125 thumbs up
dGqIMqJkEL4-00178-00038463-00038599 and 15 thumbs down
dGqIMqJkEL4-00179-00038600-00038759 one you shouldn't be filming up a video
dGqIMqJkEL4-00180-00038760-00038927 you haven't even seen and two you
dGqIMqJkEL4-00181-00038928-00039095 definitely shouldn't become a video down
dGqIMqJkEL4-00182-00039096-00039239 you haven't even seen
dGqIMqJkEL4-00183-00039240-00039423 with one view look over here in the far
dGqIMqJkEL4-00184-00039424-00039574 left corner one view
dGqIMqJkEL4-00185-00039575-00039990 one view 125 thumbs up 15 thumbs down
dGqIMqJkEL4-00186-00039991-00040143 so do me a favor if you guys know
dGqIMqJkEL4-00187-00040144-00040407 anybody that's into this kind of stuff
dGqIMqJkEL4-00188-00040408-00040607 please send them a link to my video
dGqIMqJkEL4-00189-00040608-00040735 write them i want to get the bottom of
dGqIMqJkEL4-00190-00040736-00040918 this because i'm starting to think
dGqIMqJkEL4-00191-00040919-00041287 that clex whole ministry is a sham
dGqIMqJkEL4-00192-00041288-00041727 it's a it's a big psyop and
dGqIMqJkEL4-00193-00041728-00041887 i like you guys opinion on this
dGqIMqJkEL4-00194-00041888-00042062 something just this stinks
dGqIMqJkEL4-00195-00042063-00042279 something's not right okay so with that
dGqIMqJkEL4-00196-00042280-00042407 thanks for listening
dGqIMqJkEL4-00197-00042408-00042639 and uh let me know in the comments and
dGqIMqJkEL4-00198-00042640-00042983 i'll put a video i'll put a link to the
dGqIMqJkEL4-00199-00042984-00043246 videos in question below as well alright
dGqIMqJkEL4-00200-00043247-00045199 take care bye now
dGqIMqJkEL4-00201-00045200-00045408 you
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dHDawNFEgxu-00000-00000128-00000532 yo what is going on guys today is the
dHDawNFEgxu-00001-00000533-00000750 third third
dHDawNFEgxu-00002-00000751-00001049 terribly terrorist Tuesday
dHDawNFEgxu-00003-00001050-00001258 and today we're gonna be reacting to
dHDawNFEgxu-00004-00001259-00001577 true scary dark web Horror Story
dHDawNFEgxu-00005-00001578-00001805 animated
dHDawNFEgxu-00006-00001805-00002002 I hope you guys
dHDawNFEgxu-00007-00002003-00002075 um
dHDawNFEgxu-00008-00002076-00002460 comment Down Below on this video
dHDawNFEgxu-00009-00002461-00002855 horror shorts party there's a party in
dHDawNFEgxu-00010-00002856-00003233 my pants Make You Dance
dHDawNFEgxu-00011-00003234-00003683 I'm gonna take a stance and I'm gonna
dHDawNFEgxu-00012-00003684-00003881 prance
dHDawNFEgxu-00013-00003882-00004451 and you're gonna dance with me hello
dHDawNFEgxu-00014-00004452-00004709 comment down below your favorite gonna
dHDawNFEgxu-00015-00004710-00005045 song free young thug free gonna let's
dHDawNFEgxu-00016-00005046-00005620 get right into it
dHDawNFEgxu-00017-00005621-00006113 zero deep web series
dHDawNFEgxu-00018-00006114-00006550 okay season finale the Last Time okay
dHDawNFEgxu-00019-00006551-00006641 okay
dHDawNFEgxu-00020-00006642-00007319 [Music]
dHDawNFEgxu-00021-00007320-00007423 oh God
dHDawNFEgxu-00022-00007423-00007831 [Music]
dHDawNFEgxu-00023-00007831-00008245 I'm all number two
dHDawNFEgxu-00024-00008246-00008573 now right with Tara's parents Nicholson
dHDawNFEgxu-00025-00008574-00008855 hello
dHDawNFEgxu-00026-00008856-00009191 can anyone hear me that is oh she got no
dHDawNFEgxu-00027-00009192-00009953 lips
dHDawNFEgxu-00028-00009954-00010223 please
dHDawNFEgxu-00029-00010224-00010492 oh my God oh my God he's here I think
dHDawNFEgxu-00030-00010493-00010810 he's gonna kill me Mom Dad if you're
dHDawNFEgxu-00031-00010811-00010996 watching this please know that I love
dHDawNFEgxu-00032-00010997-00011388 you tell Mandy and Jeff that I love
dHDawNFEgxu-00033-00011389-00011656 I was awoken from the traumatic imagery
dHDawNFEgxu-00034-00011657-00011956 of my lucid dreams the dreams reoccur
dHDawNFEgxu-00035-00011957-00012124 almost every day and involve the same
dHDawNFEgxu-00036-00012125-00012401 girl who constantly pleads for help I've
dHDawNFEgxu-00037-00012402-00012588 since taken medication
dHDawNFEgxu-00038-00012589-00012863 but I don't think any amount consumed
dHDawNFEgxu-00039-00012863-00013072 could help relieve he got four fingers I
dHDawNFEgxu-00040-00013073-00013319 used to do school full time but dropped
dHDawNFEgxu-00041-00013319-00013499 out as my work hours and personal life
dHDawNFEgxu-00042-00013500-00013727 became too oh why are you so tired my
dHDawNFEgxu-00043-00013728-00013972 lack of sleep and countless hours we
dHDawNFEgxu-00044-00013973-00014230 literally start to take over my life I
dHDawNFEgxu-00045-00014231-00014393 had recently started ingesting beer
dHDawNFEgxu-00046-00014394-00014549 mixed with under-the-counter sleeping
dHDawNFEgxu-00047-00014550-00014801 pills just before bed as it would help
dHDawNFEgxu-00048-00014802-00014986 knock me unconscious till my next work
dHDawNFEgxu-00049-00014987-00015191 shift that's not good besides my time
dHDawNFEgxu-00050-00015191-00015407 being consumed through sleeper work I
dHDawNFEgxu-00051-00015408-00015544 had gradually grown an obsession with
dHDawNFEgxu-00052-00015545-00015655 today
dHDawNFEgxu-00053-00015656-00016038 my classmate Cindy her disappearance
dHDawNFEgxu-00054-00016040-00016330 despite any testimony evidence given to
dHDawNFEgxu-00055-00016331-00016536 the police
dHDawNFEgxu-00056-00016537-00016817 and trafficked on the dark web but
dHDawNFEgxu-00057-00016818-00016967 that's not even a worse
dHDawNFEgxu-00058-00016968-00017255 what
dHDawNFEgxu-00059-00017256-00017513 what is
dHDawNFEgxu-00060-00017514-00017867 why did you do that
dHDawNFEgxu-00061-00017868-00018227 Kool-Aid mad
dHDawNFEgxu-00062-00018228-00018557 blazed goddess seven one ten or seven
dHDawNFEgxu-00063-00018558-00018786 one zero
dHDawNFEgxu-00064-00018787-00018953 some
dHDawNFEgxu-00065-00018954-00019164 some carelessly
dHDawNFEgxu-00066-00019165-00019555 [Music]
dHDawNFEgxu-00067-00019556-00019889 okay let's just we got we had a normal
dHDawNFEgxu-00068-00019890-00020086 thing going on there's a a guy that's
dHDawNFEgxu-00069-00020087-00020297 like a alcoholic that takes sleeping
dHDawNFEgxu-00070-00020298-00020477 pills and a missing girl and then we
dHDawNFEgxu-00071-00020478-00020693 just see this thing watch watch it's
dHDawNFEgxu-00072-00020694-00020855 completely normal her disappearance had
dHDawNFEgxu-00073-00020856-00021017 become a Cold Case despite any
dHDawNFEgxu-00074-00021018-00021600 testimonies and evidence police
dHDawNFEgxu-00075-00021601-00021821 that's not even the worst part about it
dHDawNFEgxu-00076-00021822-00022069 why it's a year
dHDawNFEgxu-00077-00022070-00022885 I came home
dHDawNFEgxu-00078-00022886-00023297 about it
dHDawNFEgxu-00079-00023298-00023561 what is that
dHDawNFEgxu-00080-00023562-00023771 what
dHDawNFEgxu-00081-00023772-00023993 this isn't even
dHDawNFEgxu-00082-00023994-00024203 who is that
dHDawNFEgxu-00083-00024204-00024436 he's got like eight limbs throws a
dHDawNFEgxu-00084-00024437-00024575 spider
dHDawNFEgxu-00085-00024576-00024905 and virtual LM
dHDawNFEgxu-00086-00024906-00025186 okay bro like if y'all are scared right
dHDawNFEgxu-00087-00025187-00025421 now bro this is not real this is like
dHDawNFEgxu-00088-00025422-00025696 physically impossible this like this guy
dHDawNFEgxu-00089-00025697-00026027 is not real I came home from work one
dHDawNFEgxu-00090-00026027-00026237 night and discovered a disturbing
dHDawNFEgxu-00091-00026238-00026405 photograph line oh he's not tired
dHDawNFEgxu-00092-00026406-00026470 anymore
dHDawNFEgxu-00093-00026472-00026818 the photo was titled doll number 21. it
dHDawNFEgxu-00094-00026819-00027089 was an image of Cindy except she had her
dHDawNFEgxu-00095-00027089-00027352 arms and legs missing I've consistently
dHDawNFEgxu-00096-00027354-00027527 dug down the rabbit hole since and even
dHDawNFEgxu-00097-00027527-00027743 got my school colleague Eric to China oh
dHDawNFEgxu-00098-00027744-00028024 if I had to be honest I didn't look at
dHDawNFEgxu-00099-00028025-00028277 Eric as much of a friend but more as a
dHDawNFEgxu-00100-00028277-00028529 fellow computer geek I don't care that
dHDawNFEgxu-00101-00028530-00028690 being friends with internet warlock of
dHDawNFEgxu-00102-00028691-00028943 his magnitude was about 10 seconds in
dHDawNFEgxu-00103-00028944-00029212 voice acting Army love I don't know what
dHDawNFEgxu-00104-00029213-00029320 that means but
dHDawNFEgxu-00105-00029322-00029633 I mean I I love the Army but I don't
dHDawNFEgxu-00106-00029633-00029968 know it's a poster for bad things but at
dHDawNFEgxu-00107-00029969-00030311 the end it was all just an act my
dHDawNFEgxu-00108-00030312-00030479 suspicions regarding Eric's involved
dHDawNFEgxu-00109-00030480-00030652 Cindy's disappearance had grown
dHDawNFEgxu-00110-00030654-00030839 substantially since the last video chat
dHDawNFEgxu-00111-00030839-00031043 I had with him oh yeah it began with
dHDawNFEgxu-00112-00031044-00031240 some casual small talk to us sharing
dHDawNFEgxu-00113-00031241-00031493 internet conspiracy theories and then
dHDawNFEgxu-00114-00031494-00031649 eventually him disclosing some images
dHDawNFEgxu-00115-00031650-00031943 from the dark web hey Terrence wanna see
dHDawNFEgxu-00116-00031944-00032140 something cool dude I'm not in the mood
dHDawNFEgxu-00117-00032141-00032411 for that right now oh come on stop being
dHDawNFEgxu-00118-00032412-00032627 a wimp I'm not trying to go missing on a
dHDawNFEgxu-00119-00032627-00032887 milk carton bro
dHDawNFEgxu-00120-00032888-00033265 that's not funny dude how funny bro
dHDawNFEgxu-00121-00033266-00033502 oh what
dHDawNFEgxu-00122-00033503-00033767 what I said laughter make his face look
dHDawNFEgxu-00123-00033768-00034482 like a live Disney character
dHDawNFEgxu-00124-00034483-00034615 [Music]
dHDawNFEgxu-00125-00034616-00035059 look at that look at that yeah
dHDawNFEgxu-00126-00035060-00035290 I couldn't help but address the elephant
dHDawNFEgxu-00127-00035291-00035561 in the room so I said dude can I ask you
dHDawNFEgxu-00128-00035562-00035921 something what do you want do you by any
dHDawNFEgxu-00129-00035922-00036251 chance know where Cindy is like where
dHDawNFEgxu-00130-00036252-00036424 she find out he could bring her up let
dHDawNFEgxu-00131-00036425-00036683 her rest in peace got damn it dude you
dHDawNFEgxu-00132-00036684-00036905 are dead don't you remember I was the
dHDawNFEgxu-00133-00036906-00037079 one that found the doll 21 pick in my
dHDawNFEgxu-00134-00037080-00037358 mail slot you mean pictures like these
dHDawNFEgxu-00135-00037359-00037386 [Music]
dHDawNFEgxu-00136-00037387-00037643 [Applause]
dHDawNFEgxu-00137-00037644-00037852 where the hell did you get those where
dHDawNFEgxu-00138-00037853-00038051 do you think I got them idiots
dHDawNFEgxu-00139-00038052-00038430 my persistence and relentlessness
dHDawNFEgxu-00140-00038431-00038705 so I continued to egg them on by saying
dHDawNFEgxu-00141-00038706-00038933 stuff like Eric dude please you have to
dHDawNFEgxu-00142-00038934-00039221 help me find Cindy if Eric is the guy
dHDawNFEgxu-00143-00039222-00039389 that has Cindy bro what are you doing
dHDawNFEgxu-00144-00039390-00039509 click this
dHDawNFEgxu-00145-00039510-00039767 with a link right next to it my heart
dHDawNFEgxu-00146-00039768-00040007 began pacing harder and harder I
dHDawNFEgxu-00147-00040008-00040145 immediately assumed that the link had
dHDawNFEgxu-00148-00040146-00040379 something to do with Cindy I began to
dHDawNFEgxu-00149-00040380-00040546 slowly move my mouse cursor towards it
dHDawNFEgxu-00150-00040547-00040702 that's that's Morse code that's Morse
dHDawNFEgxu-00151-00040703-00040823 code
dHDawNFEgxu-00152-00040824-00041080 that's Morse code right there URL when
dHDawNFEgxu-00153-00041081-00041435 Eric says click the link now I responded
dHDawNFEgxu-00154-00041436-00041740 with what the hell is your problem hurry
dHDawNFEgxu-00155-00041741-00041957 up and click the link already I couldn't
dHDawNFEgxu-00156-00041958-00042107 help but leave a few question marks in
dHDawNFEgxu-00157-00042108-00042487 the chat as I was genuinely confused
dHDawNFEgxu-00158-00042488-00042761 click the link or else don't click it
dHDawNFEgxu-00159-00042762-00042940 dude what are you sending me
dHDawNFEgxu-00160-00042941-00043145 don't click the link now all bets are
dHDawNFEgxu-00161-00043146-00043217 off
dHDawNFEgxu-00162-00043218-00043685 stop threatening me
dHDawNFEgxu-00163-00043686-00043889 or not but I knew I had to be careful
dHDawNFEgxu-00164-00043890-00044111 with him he was definitely the type that
dHDawNFEgxu-00165-00044112-00044399 could hack my computer at will again I
dHDawNFEgxu-00166-00044400-00044621 shifted my cursor towards when Eric
dHDawNFEgxu-00167-00044622-00044837 suddenly begins to spam my chat box with
dHDawNFEgxu-00168-00044838-00045101 the same link over and over again it was
dHDawNFEgxu-00169-00045102-00045412 almost as if border jammed I felt the
dHDawNFEgxu-00170-00045413-00045587 sense of claustrophobia right what's
dHDawNFEgxu-00171-00045588-00045761 going on why they began to smash my
dHDawNFEgxu-00172-00045762-00046024 keyboard no way to miraculously open the
dHDawNFEgxu-00173-00046025-00046217 URL and see a meme face with the word
dHDawNFEgxu-00174-00046218-00046402 gotcha written above it
dHDawNFEgxu-00175-00046403-00046601 unfortunately that wasn't going to be
dHDawNFEgxu-00176-00046602-00046889 the last interaction I had with Eric one
dHDawNFEgxu-00177-00046890-00047087 night Eric invited me over for the usual
dHDawNFEgxu-00178-00047088-00047368 bit of surfing the web we watched over a
dHDawNFEgxu-00179-00047369-00047549 dozen snuff films that he archived on
dHDawNFEgxu-00180-00047550-00047717 his desktop while getting plastered with
dHDawNFEgxu-00181-00047718-00047951 some beers I brought over the more we
dHDawNFEgxu-00182-00047952-00048208 slam back our beers the more the night
dHDawNFEgxu-00183-00048209-00048508 started transitioning to a foggy blur I
dHDawNFEgxu-00184-00048509-00048701 saw Eric gradually roll his eyes to the
dHDawNFEgxu-00185-00048702-00048880 back of his head and pass out cold on
dHDawNFEgxu-00186-00048881-00049037 his chair good thing my
dHDawNFEgxu-00187-00049038-00049205 under-the-counter sleeping pills came in
dHDawNFEgxu-00188-00049206-00049439 handy for this occasion I frantically
dHDawNFEgxu-00189-00049440-00049643 began going through his computer files
dHDawNFEgxu-00190-00049644-00049865 trying to find anything related to doll
dHDawNFEgxu-00191-00049866-00050236 number 21 or should I say Cindy that's
dHDawNFEgxu-00192-00050237-00050465 when I discovered about 20 to 30 folders
dHDawNFEgxu-00193-00050466-00050717 titled doll number along with the
dHDawNFEgxu-00194-00050718-00050946 correlating digits
dHDawNFEgxu-00195-00050947-00051214 obviously it's in folders
dHDawNFEgxu-00196-00051215-00051425 and witness one of the most disturbing
dHDawNFEgxu-00197-00051426-00051737 snuff films I've ever laid off it was a
dHDawNFEgxu-00198-00051738-00051929 video of a woman swinging back and forth
dHDawNFEgxu-00199-00051929-00052204 on a swing okay except she had no arms
dHDawNFEgxu-00200-00052205-00052576 and legs just like Cindy oh this site
dHDawNFEgxu-00201-00052577-00052829 was what I can only describe
dHDawNFEgxu-00202-00052829-00053026 I couldn't comprehend no one could find
dHDawNFEgxu-00203-00053027-00053219 so much pleasure inflicting harm to
dHDawNFEgxu-00204-00053220-00053399 someone else
dHDawNFEgxu-00205-00053400-00053597 saw the woman babbling some sort of
dHDawNFEgxu-00206-00053598-00053788 gibberish when a man wearing a pig mask
dHDawNFEgxu-00207-00053789-00054053 under the camera shot oh he forcefully
dHDawNFEgxu-00208-00054054-00054215 grabbed the woman's face while saying
dHDawNFEgxu-00209-00054216-00054433 repeat after me
dHDawNFEgxu-00210-00054434-00054685 [Applause]
dHDawNFEgxu-00211-00054686-00055423 where the world is divine
dHDawNFEgxu-00212-00055424-00055697 where the world is divine
dHDawNFEgxu-00213-00055698-00056266 and the dolls they're beautiful
dHDawNFEgxu-00214-00056267-00056747 um
dHDawNFEgxu-00215-00056748-00057203 wait what was that
dHDawNFEgxu-00216-00057204-00057754 [Laughter]
dHDawNFEgxu-00217-00057755-00058969 oh it's almost like yeah
dHDawNFEgxu-00218-00058970-00059394 I can't hear you
dHDawNFEgxu-00219-00059395-00059865 is that city is that City
dHDawNFEgxu-00220-00059866-00060166 [Music]
dHDawNFEgxu-00221-00060167-00060532 oh that's from the mirror the dull knife
dHDawNFEgxu-00222-00060533-00060730 under the lady's face skinning her like
dHDawNFEgxu-00223-00060732-00060863 he was Leatherface from The Texas
dHDawNFEgxu-00224-00060864-00061109 Chainsaw Massacre my heart felt like it
dHDawNFEgxu-00225-00061110-00061337 was going to drop to my stomach the poor
dHDawNFEgxu-00226-00061338-00061544 lady's face literally toppled him
dHDawNFEgxu-00227-00061545-00061669 [Music]
dHDawNFEgxu-00228-00061670-00061954 to begin a further stroll around Eric's
dHDawNFEgxu-00229-00061955-00062230 files I opened the doll number 21 folder
dHDawNFEgxu-00230-00062232-00062471 and saw hundreds of MP4 files of Cindy
dHDawNFEgxu-00231-00062472-00062800 in that man the pig man I'll never
dHDawNFEgxu-00232-00062801-00063011 forget the excruciating Agony he put
dHDawNFEgxu-00233-00063012-00063161 that poor girl through
dHDawNFEgxu-00234-00063162-00065169 please
dHDawNFEgxu-00235-00065170-00065221 [Music]
dHDawNFEgxu-00236-00065222-00065488 [Laughter]
dHDawNFEgxu-00237-00065489-00066238 I just want to go home
dHDawNFEgxu-00238-00066239-00066556 oh
dHDawNFEgxu-00239-00066557-00067271 everybody
dHDawNFEgxu-00240-00067272-00067481 that's when the pig man began butchering
dHDawNFEgxu-00241-00067482-00067763 Cindy's arms and legs off I felt blood
dHDawNFEgxu-00242-00067764-00067961 losing out of my face as I sat there in
dHDawNFEgxu-00243-00067962-00068347 disgusted what
dHDawNFEgxu-00244-00068348-00068623 oh I got boys
dHDawNFEgxu-00245-00068624-00068785 oh
dHDawNFEgxu-00246-00068786-00069029 look there was no way I could stomach
dHDawNFEgxu-00247-00069030-00069244 the atrocity I just witnessed I wouldn't
dHDawNFEgxu-00248-00069245-00069479 either with the next clip who was the
dHDawNFEgxu-00249-00069480-00069611 one that took all the money why are you
dHDawNFEgxu-00250-00069612-00069832 still going it was a video of Cindy
dHDawNFEgxu-00251-00069833-00070150 except it looked identical in my
dHDawNFEgxu-00252-00070151-00070285 reoccurring dream
dHDawNFEgxu-00253-00070286-00070547 of the dreams I see every night just
dHDawNFEgxu-00254-00070548-00070669 before going
dHDawNFEgxu-00255-00070670-00071038 or should I say nightmares
dHDawNFEgxu-00256-00071039-00071782 hello is anyone there can anyone hear me
dHDawNFEgxu-00257-00071783-00072155 I've been here for a really long time
dHDawNFEgxu-00258-00072156-00072353 I haven't eaten or trying in a little
dHDawNFEgxu-00259-00072354-00072655 time
dHDawNFEgxu-00260-00072656-00072953 oh my God oh my God he's here I think
dHDawNFEgxu-00261-00072954-00073193 he's gonna kill me we gotta bring out
dHDawNFEgxu-00262-00073194-00073373 his hair if you're watching this please
dHDawNFEgxu-00263-00073374-00073823 know that I love you
dHDawNFEgxu-00264-00073824-00074026 God please help me help me God has
dHDawNFEgxu-00265-00074027-00074413 nothing to do with this
dHDawNFEgxu-00266-00074414-00075029 you guys
dHDawNFEgxu-00267-00075030-00075620 but there he is
dHDawNFEgxu-00268-00075621-00075875 [Music]
dHDawNFEgxu-00269-00075876-00076079 let's give a big thank
dHDawNFEgxu-00270-00076080-00076469 you I told you bro it was a
dHDawNFEgxu-00271-00076470-00076732 there's this guy it was Eric
dHDawNFEgxu-00272-00076733-00076943 this weird smile
dHDawNFEgxu-00273-00076944-00077206 you know let's go let's go see his face
dHDawNFEgxu-00274-00077207-00077399 again
dHDawNFEgxu-00275-00077400-00077771 oh yeah this weird thing wait
dHDawNFEgxu-00276-00077772-00078082 this thing right here like is that
dHDawNFEgxu-00277-00078083-00079061 foreign
dHDawNFEgxu-00278-00079062-00079235 okay
dHDawNFEgxu-00279-00079236-00079426 uh thank you guys for watching this
dHDawNFEgxu-00280-00079427-00079582 video
dHDawNFEgxu-00281-00079583-00079799 uh I don't really want to do another one
dHDawNFEgxu-00282-00079800-00080093 of these this is scary man like
dHDawNFEgxu-00283-00080094-00080291 I don't have the heart to do this I'm
dHDawNFEgxu-00284-00080292-00080506 like I'm kind of a wimp
dHDawNFEgxu-00285-00080507-00080644 you know I was talking about how the
dHDawNFEgxu-00286-00080645-00080806 last videos weren't that scary and they
dHDawNFEgxu-00287-00080807-00081017 were like kind of you know for wimps but
dHDawNFEgxu-00288-00081018-00081193 this is
dHDawNFEgxu-00289-00081194-00081569 this is spooky I want to go back to the
dHDawNFEgxu-00290-00081570-00081881 top 10 Mojo Jojo videos
dHDawNFEgxu-00291-00081882-00082187 man this is I want to do top 10 Tuesday
dHDawNFEgxu-00292-00082188-00082415 I don't want to be terribly terrorist
dHDawNFEgxu-00293-00082416-00082679 Tuesday anymore this is scary
dHDawNFEgxu-00294-00082680-00082931 so scary
dHDawNFEgxu-00295-00082932-00083243 anyway guys goodbye
dHDawNFEgxu-00296-00083244-00083423 um go shave your nostrils don't be like
dHDawNFEgxu-00297-00083424-00083776 this guy's nasty and I love you wait for
dHDawNFEgxu-00298-00083777-00084182 the big mouse yeah big mouse
dKUAxXzUwq8-00000-00000027-00001002 [Music]
dKUAxXzUwq8-00001-00001003-00001204 what is good everybody welcome to an
dKUAxXzUwq8-00002-00001205-00001408 epic my damn toys video today ladies and
dKUAxXzUwq8-00003-00001409-00001591 gentleman we're gonna be doing a video
dKUAxXzUwq8-00004-00001592-00001759 that I have not done in quite a while
dKUAxXzUwq8-00005-00001760-00002005 I've done a few of these in the past but
dKUAxXzUwq8-00006-00002007-00002162 it's been so long that I think it is
dKUAxXzUwq8-00007-00002163-00002357 time that we update this video and talk
dKUAxXzUwq8-00008-00002358-00002690 about the attires that Mattel needs to
dKUAxXzUwq8-00009-00002691-00002831 make the ones that I would love to see
dKUAxXzUwq8-00010-00002832-00003005 them make maybe you guys agree with me I
dKUAxXzUwq8-00011-00003006-00003131 would love to know down in the comments
dKUAxXzUwq8-00012-00003132-00003356 section when this video is over but we
dKUAxXzUwq8-00013-00003357-00003556 are today going to discuss the double
dKUAxXzUwq8-00014-00003557-00003736 w/e action figure attires that i would
dKUAxXzUwq8-00015-00003738-00003908 like to see you know specific attires
dKUAxXzUwq8-00016-00003909-00004118 the Mattel needs to make in figure form
dKUAxXzUwq8-00017-00004119-00004288 that I would like to have on my shelf in
dKUAxXzUwq8-00018-00004289-00004499 our collections and you know I'm not
dKUAxXzUwq8-00019-00004500-00004652 gonna really include a bunch of guys
dKUAxXzUwq8-00020-00004653-00004799 that you know we haven't gotten or stuff
dKUAxXzUwq8-00021-00004800-00004940 like that you know Viking raiders such
dKUAxXzUwq8-00022-00004941-00005138 as that I'm talking about specific
dKUAxXzUwq8-00023-00005139-00005261 attires that people have wound to the
dKUAxXzUwq8-00024-00005262-00005461 ring where I'm like damn Brad that's a
dKUAxXzUwq8-00025-00005462-00005654 good football team right there we need
dKUAxXzUwq8-00026-00005655-00005834 that in Figure form so that is pretty
dKUAxXzUwq8-00027-00005835-00005975 much what this video is about so let's
dKUAxXzUwq8-00028-00005976-00006143 shut the hell up and dive into these
dKUAxXzUwq8-00029-00006144-00006322 figures guys let's start things off with
dKUAxXzUwq8-00030-00006323-00006503 a Rey Mysterio figure we're talking
dKUAxXzUwq8-00031-00006504-00006742 about the Joker Rey Mysterio and this
dKUAxXzUwq8-00032-00006743-00006977 custom was made by angel who is the
dKUAxXzUwq8-00033-00006978-00007184 customizer of gennadi obviously and this
dKUAxXzUwq8-00034-00007184-00007321 is a beautiful custom I think he did a
dKUAxXzUwq8-00035-00007322-00007549 fantastic job and I love the colors of
dKUAxXzUwq8-00036-00007550-00007720 it I think if we might tell were able to
dKUAxXzUwq8-00037-00007722-00007877 make it or if they were to make it I
dKUAxXzUwq8-00038-00007878-00007996 think that they would do the same thing
dKUAxXzUwq8-00039-00007997-00008185 with the colors very saturated very
dKUAxXzUwq8-00040-00008186-00008374 bright and I love when Mattel does the
dKUAxXzUwq8-00041-00008375-00008560 bright colors it just pops off they look
dKUAxXzUwq8-00042-00008561-00008735 so good on the shelf you know not just
dKUAxXzUwq8-00043-00008736-00008960 always black attires and really dark
dKUAxXzUwq8-00044-00008961-00009139 guitars I love when they get the colors
dKUAxXzUwq8-00045-00009140-00009278 in there and they pop off they're really
dKUAxXzUwq8-00046-00009279-00009434 really nice and I think they would do a
dKUAxXzUwq8-00047-00009435-00009662 great job on it especially me loving the
dKUAxXzUwq8-00048-00009663-00009796 Rey Mysterio figures the way they've
dKUAxXzUwq8-00049-00009797-00009946 been making them here lately man they
dKUAxXzUwq8-00050-00009947-00010148 are fantastic so I would love to see a
dKUAxXzUwq8-00051-00010149-00010321 joke or a Mysterio I think it was a
dKUAxXzUwq8-00052-00010322-00010487 survivor so I can't remember what the
dKUAxXzUwq8-00053-00010488-00010685 hell this this attire was from but there
dKUAxXzUwq8-00054-00010686-00010895 it is nonetheless Joker Rey Mysterio had
dKUAxXzUwq8-00055-00010896-00011071 to be on the list let's move on to my
dKUAxXzUwq8-00056-00011072-00011219 man Seth Rollins guys you know he had to
dKUAxXzUwq8-00057-00011220-00011456 be in the video another custom by Angel
dKUAxXzUwq8-00058-00011457-00011738 and Jean addy we got the Avengers attire
dKUAxXzUwq8-00059-00011739-00011989 for Seth Rollins which he wore shortly
dKUAxXzUwq8-00060-00011990-00012131 after WrestleMania when he won the
dKUAxXzUwq8-00061-00012132-00012320 universal championship this is a
dKUAxXzUwq8-00062-00012321-00012473 beautiful attire man just through and
dKUAxXzUwq8-00063-00012474-00012641 through with the universal championship
dKUAxXzUwq8-00064-00012642-00012854 around the waist with the basic 102 head
dKUAxXzUwq8-00065-00012855-00013082 sculpt on it it is just a fabulous piece
dKUAxXzUwq8-00066-00013083-00013343 man what a beautiful figure and
dKUAxXzUwq8-00067-00013344-00013568 haier this is that really dark dark blue
dKUAxXzUwq8-00068-00013569-00013790 almost black blue if you will with the
dKUAxXzUwq8-00069-00013791-00013979 red and the silver and white just really
dKUAxXzUwq8-00070-00013980-00014197 contrasts well really pops off and I
dKUAxXzUwq8-00071-00014199-00014312 know it doesn't look like we're probably
dKUAxXzUwq8-00072-00014313-00014491 gonna get this figure anytime soon if we
dKUAxXzUwq8-00073-00014493-00014711 do get it I know this figure this attire
dKUAxXzUwq8-00074-00014712-00014941 wasn't included in the WrestleMania fan
dKUAxXzUwq8-00075-00014943-00015056 vote line that we're supposed to be
dKUAxXzUwq8-00076-00015057-00015281 getting in 2021 so I don't know when
dKUAxXzUwq8-00077-00015282-00015394 we're gonna get this figure but I hope
dKUAxXzUwq8-00078-00015396-00015605 to god that we do get this attire at
dKUAxXzUwq8-00079-00015606-00015878 some point and I do know our look we're
dKUAxXzUwq8-00080-00015879-00016001 probably gonna get it in a battle pack
dKUAxXzUwq8-00081-00016002-00016163 our basic you know what I'm saying Brad
dKUAxXzUwq8-00082-00016163-00016366 but hopefully we get this thing in an
dKUAxXzUwq8-00083-00016368-00016547 elite and I know it would be a lien look
dKUAxXzUwq8-00084-00016548-00016676 at this thing it's so beautiful
dKUAxXzUwq8-00085-00016677-00016937 beautiful custom and I had to include
dKUAxXzUwq8-00086-00016938-00017099 this one guys let's move on to our next
dKUAxXzUwq8-00087-00017100-00017327 one now this one could be you know his
dKUAxXzUwq8-00088-00017328-00017516 return Royal Rumble attire or it could
dKUAxXzUwq8-00089-00017517-00017786 be his WrestleMania 36 gear I'm talking
dKUAxXzUwq8-00090-00017787-00017885 none other than the rated-r superstar
dKUAxXzUwq8-00091-00017886-00018164 edge this custom was made by mag decals
dKUAxXzUwq8-00092-00018165-00018314 who is fantastic one of the best
dKUAxXzUwq8-00093-00018315-00018560 customizers in the game and I love both
dKUAxXzUwq8-00094-00018561-00018743 of them if I had to pick I think I would
dKUAxXzUwq8-00095-00018744-00018932 go with the WrestleMania 36 gear I
dKUAxXzUwq8-00096-00018933-00019106 personally like the grey better
dKUAxXzUwq8-00097-00019107-00019376 I like the chrome shoes slash boots that
dKUAxXzUwq8-00098-00019377-00019529 he was wearing underneath his kick pads
dKUAxXzUwq8-00099-00019530-00019733 man that those were fantastic I really
dKUAxXzUwq8-00100-00019734-00019934 wanted to see some up-close images of
dKUAxXzUwq8-00101-00019935-00020132 those by the maker of that attire I
dKUAxXzUwq8-00102-00020133-00020306 don't think they actually uploaded it
dKUAxXzUwq8-00103-00020307-00020546 but this is a perfect formula for edge
dKUAxXzUwq8-00104-00020547-00020753 and I gotta have it either
dKUAxXzUwq8-00105-00020754-00020894 like I think I'd rather have
dKUAxXzUwq8-00106-00020895-00021224 WrestleMania 36 but a wrist or a Royal
dKUAxXzUwq8-00107-00021225-00021467 Rumble 2020 return edge figure would be
dKUAxXzUwq8-00108-00021468-00021697 just as good to me what do you guys
dKUAxXzUwq8-00109-00021698-00021833 think would you rather have the red
dKUAxXzUwq8-00110-00021834-00022025 royal rumble return which is a probably
dKUAxXzUwq8-00111-00022026-00022178 a you know better moment or words were
dKUAxXzUwq8-00112-00022179-00022361 have rather have the WrestleMania 36
dKUAxXzUwq8-00113-00022362-00022514 attire or you know what they could do
dKUAxXzUwq8-00114-00022515-00022700 Brad they could give it to us in the
dKUAxXzUwq8-00115-00022701-00022897 series like 83 or something like that
dKUAxXzUwq8-00116-00022898-00023072 and do a chase variant version where
dKUAxXzUwq8-00117-00023073-00023204 they give us the Royal Rumble and the
dKUAxXzUwq8-00118-00023205-00023372 WrestleMania 36 I'm just throwing my
dKUAxXzUwq8-00119-00023373-00023534 hands up Brad that's what I would do if
dKUAxXzUwq8-00120-00023535-00023741 I were booking things but uh you got to
dKUAxXzUwq8-00121-00023742-00023903 have a return edge and we got to have it
dKUAxXzUwq8-00122-00023904-00024065 in those two gears so that's the only
dKUAxXzUwq8-00123-00024066-00024218 two gives we've really seen in him seen
dKUAxXzUwq8-00124-00024219-00024392 him him so I had to include those let's
dKUAxXzUwq8-00125-00024393-00024584 move on to another mag decals custom and
dKUAxXzUwq8-00126-00024585-00024782 my boy Dolph Ziggler I really want to
dKUAxXzUwq8-00127-00024783-00024944 see another bright attire I know that we
dKUAxXzUwq8-00128-00024945-00025217 got the pink at least 70 but this one is
dKUAxXzUwq8-00129-00025218-00025460 beautiful as well the yellow gold and
dKUAxXzUwq8-00130-00025461-00025690 black zebra stripes are so beautiful
dKUAxXzUwq8-00131-00025691-00025795 guys you know what I'm talking about
dKUAxXzUwq8-00132-00025797-00026020 they fit the MDT theme they're just so
dKUAxXzUwq8-00133-00026022-00026207 beautiful this figure looks great by Mac
dKUAxXzUwq8-00134-00026208-00026399 and I had to include this attire I
dKUAxXzUwq8-00135-00026400-00026620 really like it a lot and I'm a big dolph
dKUAxXzUwq8-00136-00026622-00026702 ziggler guy so I
dKUAxXzUwq8-00137-00026702-00026810 wanted to include it here I'm not gonna
dKUAxXzUwq8-00138-00026811-00027023 spend a lot of time on it but I did want
dKUAxXzUwq8-00139-00027024-00027152 to plug this a tire in if we're talking
dKUAxXzUwq8-00140-00027152-00027317 about a tires I want to see from Mattel
dKUAxXzUwq8-00141-00027318-00027542 I had to include this dolph ziggler I
dKUAxXzUwq8-00142-00027543-00027698 think a lot of people will agree with me
dKUAxXzUwq8-00143-00027699-00027908 on this one guys another mac decals
dKUAxXzUwq8-00144-00027908-00028065 custom that is so beautiful a
dKUAxXzUwq8-00145-00028066-00028400 Wrestlemania 32 AJ Styles where he took
dKUAxXzUwq8-00146-00028401-00028625 on Chris Jericho I know people have been
dKUAxXzUwq8-00147-00028626-00028874 wanting this figure forever and this is
dKUAxXzUwq8-00148-00028875-00029093 a perfect embodiment of what we could
dKUAxXzUwq8-00149-00029094-00029297 have if Mattel were to give it to us
dKUAxXzUwq8-00150-00029298-00029444 I want to say they made a basic of this
dKUAxXzUwq8-00151-00029445-00029606 attire if they did make a basic of this
dKUAxXzUwq8-00152-00029607-00029792 attire it was very very similar to this
dKUAxXzUwq8-00153-00029793-00030020 attire in the white and red and what a
dKUAxXzUwq8-00154-00030020-00030194 beautiful figure man I mean I think
dKUAxXzUwq8-00155-00030195-00030461 anybody would agree we just need a red
dKUAxXzUwq8-00156-00030462-00030704 tights AJ Styles I don't know what it is
dKUAxXzUwq8-00157-00030705-00030952 but we cannot get a red tights AJ Styles
dKUAxXzUwq8-00158-00030954-00031160 we literally have like seven black ones
dKUAxXzUwq8-00159-00031161-00031402 we got some we got some blue ones before
dKUAxXzUwq8-00160-00031404-00031664 we've seen lime-green before and we've
dKUAxXzUwq8-00161-00031664-00031805 seen all the different black with
dKUAxXzUwq8-00162-00031806-00032039 different accents but God in heaven can
dKUAxXzUwq8-00163-00032039-00032180 we get a red tights
dKUAxXzUwq8-00164-00032181-00032417 AJ style specifically WrestleMania 32 I
dKUAxXzUwq8-00165-00032418-00032549 think that a lot of people would enjoy
dKUAxXzUwq8-00166-00032550-00032750 that you could give it you know a newer
dKUAxXzUwq8-00167-00032751-00032962 head sculpt of a throwback AJ Styles
dKUAxXzUwq8-00168-00032963-00033152 with the shorter soccer-mom haircut you
dKUAxXzUwq8-00169-00033153-00033296 know when it was shorter at WrestleMania
dKUAxXzUwq8-00170-00033297-00033494 32 you don't have to reuse that same
dKUAxXzUwq8-00171-00033495-00033695 head sculpt that we got with a leat 47
dKUAxXzUwq8-00172-00033696-00033902 you could give us some new tooling a new
dKUAxXzUwq8-00173-00033903-00034052 head sculpt with the shorter hair mold
dKUAxXzUwq8-00174-00034053-00034321 and this figure would be phenomenal pun
dKUAxXzUwq8-00175-00034322-00034556 intended Brad what a great figure what
dKUAxXzUwq8-00176-00034557-00034769 an attire that I would love to see and I
dKUAxXzUwq8-00177-00034770-00034919 had to include that one here today in
dKUAxXzUwq8-00178-00034920-00035117 the video let's move it forward guys we
dKUAxXzUwq8-00179-00035118-00035267 got a throwback figure we have a Shawn
dKUAxXzUwq8-00180-00035268-00035450 Michaels figure now this is one of my
dKUAxXzUwq8-00181-00035451-00035654 favorites Shawn Michaels attire another
dKUAxXzUwq8-00182-00035655-00035890 Mac decals custom that looks beautiful I
dKUAxXzUwq8-00183-00035891-00036017 think it's one of my favorites Shawn
dKUAxXzUwq8-00184-00036018-00036200 Michaels attires guys I just love the
dKUAxXzUwq8-00185-00036201-00036392 black and white with the red and silver
dKUAxXzUwq8-00186-00036393-00036590 thrown in there with those hearts I just
dKUAxXzUwq8-00187-00036591-00036758 love the white and black zebra stripes
dKUAxXzUwq8-00188-00036759-00036959 it's just such a beautiful looking
dKUAxXzUwq8-00189-00036960-00037169 pattern that they put on here that Mac
dKUAxXzUwq8-00190-00037170-00037400 did and I would love to see this Romo
dKUAxXzUwq8-00191-00037401-00037625 tail man I want to see better HBK s I
dKUAxXzUwq8-00192-00037626-00037790 feel it we don't have a lot of his great
dKUAxXzUwq8-00193-00037791-00037949 attires I really want to get some great
dKUAxXzUwq8-00194-00037950-00038174 attire zebra stripes mainly with all of
dKUAxXzUwq8-00195-00038175-00038342 his different gears and hopefully we can
dKUAxXzUwq8-00196-00038343-00038486 get some I know that Shawn Michaels will
dKUAxXzUwq8-00197-00038487-00038624 be a guy they make forever
dKUAxXzUwq8-00198-00038625-00038840 so hopefully we can get some of these as
dKUAxXzUwq8-00199-00038841-00038987 hearts thrown in here but let's move on
dKUAxXzUwq8-00200-00038988-00039196 to another flashback and I know that
dKUAxXzUwq8-00201-00039197-00039434 Kurt Angle was released so this one kind
dKUAxXzUwq8-00202-00039435-00039638 of is a you know it's kind of iffy but I
dKUAxXzUwq8-00203-00039639-00039950 do want to go to Unforgiven 2001
dKUAxXzUwq8-00204-00039951-00040211 Kurt Angle captured the WUF championship
dKUAxXzUwq8-00205-00040212-00040373 now this one is beautiful and it's
dKUAxXzUwq8-00206-00040374-00040544 nostalgic for me so I would love to see
dKUAxXzUwq8-00207-00040545-00040769 it another mag decals custom and it is
dKUAxXzUwq8-00208-00040770-00041000 so freakin beautiful he nailed this one
dKUAxXzUwq8-00209-00041001-00041168 completely I actually already have a
dKUAxXzUwq8-00210-00041169-00041363 custom of this in my collection but it's
dKUAxXzUwq8-00211-00041364-00041513 such a beautiful piece I don't ever want
dKUAxXzUwq8-00212-00041514-00041690 to move it so I do want an official
dKUAxXzUwq8-00213-00041691-00041816 Mattel and so that I can take it down
dKUAxXzUwq8-00214-00041817-00042041 post it around and do all the good stuff
dKUAxXzUwq8-00215-00042042-00042233 with it but Kurt Angle was released I do
dKUAxXzUwq8-00216-00042234-00042455 know that so I doubt we'll get one very
dKUAxXzUwq8-00217-00042456-00042608 soon but maybe they can sign him back on
dKUAxXzUwq8-00218-00042609-00042779 or maybe he's still on a merch deal I
dKUAxXzUwq8-00219-00042780-00042929 don't know you know people get fired and
dKUAxXzUwq8-00220-00042930-00043094 still around merch deals I don't know
dKUAxXzUwq8-00221-00043095-00043289 how that works but maybe one day we
dKUAxXzUwq8-00222-00043290-00043490 could get it but there is Kurt Angle we
dKUAxXzUwq8-00223-00043491-00043697 had to throw in a Jeff Hardy figure guys
dKUAxXzUwq8-00224-00043698-00043853 and this is a throwback Jeff Hardy
dKUAxXzUwq8-00225-00043854-00044153 WrestleMania 25 made by Angel for you
dKUAxXzUwq8-00226-00044154-00044321 know Jean Addie's customizer and he did
dKUAxXzUwq8-00227-00044322-00044495 a fantastic job on this one I love the
dKUAxXzUwq8-00228-00044496-00044675 face paint honestly you could plug any
dKUAxXzUwq8-00229-00044676-00044921 throw back Jeff Hardy from any previous
dKUAxXzUwq8-00230-00044922-00045149 pay-per-view any previous moment I will
dKUAxXzUwq8-00231-00045150-00045317 take any Jeff Hardy's you guys know I
dKUAxXzUwq8-00232-00045318-00045518 love to collect the hardy figures I love
dKUAxXzUwq8-00233-00045519-00045683 this figure I think it's fantastic the
dKUAxXzUwq8-00234-00045684-00045890 purple pops off the armbands are great
dKUAxXzUwq8-00235-00045891-00046088 and it doesn't have to be this specific
dKUAxXzUwq8-00236-00046089-00046232 moment honestly this is just a
dKUAxXzUwq8-00237-00046233-00046409 placeholder for any Jeff Hardy
dKUAxXzUwq8-00238-00046410-00046562 throwbacks they want to make us because
dKUAxXzUwq8-00239-00046563-00046772 I will absolutely purchase them and they
dKUAxXzUwq8-00240-00046773-00046964 will be great so this Jeff Hardy is
dKUAxXzUwq8-00241-00046965-00047168 beautiful and I had to throw in any
dKUAxXzUwq8-00242-00047169-00047405 flash back face paint Jeff Hardy I will
dKUAxXzUwq8-00243-00047406-00047570 definitely take it I'll take any non
dKUAxXzUwq8-00244-00047571-00047723 face paint you know it's Jeff Hardy I'll
dKUAxXzUwq8-00245-00047724-00047870 take it now put it up on the shelf it'll
dKUAxXzUwq8-00246-00047871-00048053 look beautiful but let's move on to the
dKUAxXzUwq8-00247-00048054-00048194 Legend Killer guys we have a throwback
dKUAxXzUwq8-00248-00048195-00048461 Randy Orton figure and this one is just
dKUAxXzUwq8-00249-00048462-00048803 fantastic man Unforgiven 2004 this one
dKUAxXzUwq8-00250-00048804-00048959 is nostalgic for me as well
dKUAxXzUwq8-00251-00048960-00049142 I love the powder blue I kind of you
dKUAxXzUwq8-00252-00049143-00049256 know it's kind of like San Diego
dKUAxXzUwq8-00253-00049257-00049475 Chargers attire right here with the gold
dKUAxXzUwq8-00254-00049476-00049703 lettering and the blue just so fantastic
dKUAxXzUwq8-00255-00049704-00049907 it's another angel styles custom guys
dKUAxXzUwq8-00256-00049908-00050111 another angel figure and he nailed this
dKUAxXzUwq8-00257-00050112-00050279 is such a beautiful custom such a
dKUAxXzUwq8-00258-00050280-00050453 beautiful figure again the attire is
dKUAxXzUwq8-00259-00050454-00050654 just fantastic you gotta have a
dKUAxXzUwq8-00260-00050655-00050861 throwback Orton you know all the Orton's
dKUAxXzUwq8-00261-00050862-00051047 we get our black attires nowadays we
dKUAxXzUwq8-00262-00051048-00051260 need some colorful trunks in this hope
dKUAxXzUwq8-00263-00051261-00051440 and what better attire than this one I
dKUAxXzUwq8-00264-00051441-00051614 had to throw Randy Orton in there since
dKUAxXzUwq8-00265-00051615-00051779 it's my boy you know had to get him in
dKUAxXzUwq8-00266-00051779-00051950 there but let's move on guys we have
dKUAxXzUwq8-00267-00051951-00052129 another Mac decals custom and it is
dKUAxXzUwq8-00268-00052130-00052424 Johnny Organo in the Ironman attire now
dKUAxXzUwq8-00269-00052425-00052595 this one's probably gonna be difficult I
dKUAxXzUwq8-00270-00052596-00052790 know we've gotten you know Marvel themed
dKUAxXzUwq8-00271-00052791-00052970 stuff before but they probably have to
dKUAxXzUwq8-00272-00052971-00053126 leave off some you know some different
dKUAxXzUwq8-00273-00053127-00053338 deco and stuff because of the lightning
dKUAxXzUwq8-00274-00053339-00053572 of Ironman on this gear um but what a
dKUAxXzUwq8-00275-00053573-00053734 beautiful custom by Mac and what a
dKUAxXzUwq8-00276-00053735-00053911 beautiful attire Ironman is my favorite
dKUAxXzUwq8-00277-00053912-00054169 morbol character so this is just hit me
dKUAxXzUwq8-00278-00054170-00054346 right in the gonads man this one is a
dKUAxXzUwq8-00279-00054347-00054550 beautiful piece and if Mattel were to
dKUAxXzUwq8-00280-00054551-00054724 make this I think they could do just as
dKUAxXzUwq8-00281-00054725-00054925 good as Mac probably not let's be real
dKUAxXzUwq8-00282-00054926-00055131 but nonetheless you know he got all the
dKUAxXzUwq8-00283-00055132-00055291 details in here man I don't know if
dKUAxXzUwq8-00284-00055291-00055467 they'd be able to make this gear at this
dKUAxXzUwq8-00285-00055469-00055675 high level and highly detailed but if
dKUAxXzUwq8-00286-00055676-00055857 they were able to without fur he can
dKUAxXzUwq8-00287-00055858-00056050 take it man I would love to see it and I
dKUAxXzUwq8-00288-00056051-00056232 had to plug this in here just such a
dKUAxXzUwq8-00289-00056233-00056449 beautiful piece I need to commission
dKUAxXzUwq8-00290-00056450-00056655 something like this because it is just a
dKUAxXzUwq8-00291-00056657-00056856 work of art and a attire that I would
dKUAxXzUwq8-00292-00056857-00057088 love to see from the tail but let's move
dKUAxXzUwq8-00293-00057089-00057231 on to the last one guys shout out to
dKUAxXzUwq8-00294-00057232-00057504 beast nation 2020 for this one on IG a
dKUAxXzUwq8-00295-00057505-00057736 bunch of 2001 Eric Haynes man just a
dKUAxXzUwq8-00296-00057737-00058012 bunch of 2001 singlet canes and I got
dKUAxXzUwq8-00297-00058013-00058179 all the different tires right here we
dKUAxXzUwq8-00298-00058180-00058384 need more throwback canes you know it's
dKUAxXzUwq8-00299-00058385-00058530 just crappy I know we're getting one
dKUAxXzUwq8-00300-00058532-00058725 this year with a decade of dominance but
dKUAxXzUwq8-00301-00058726-00058992 I do want to see a cane in different
dKUAxXzUwq8-00302-00058994-00059260 singlets like this back in 2001 I think
dKUAxXzUwq8-00303-00059261-00059386 this is all of the gears that he rocked
dKUAxXzUwq8-00304-00059387-00059560 through the early part of 2000 one later
dKUAxXzUwq8-00305-00059561-00059812 2000 I think so I really want to see
dKUAxXzUwq8-00306-00059813-00060073 this I just good lord man beast nation
dKUAxXzUwq8-00307-00060074-00060216 is the best of the cane customs these
dKUAxXzUwq8-00308-00060217-00060379 figures are perfect from head to toe and
dKUAxXzUwq8-00309-00060379-00060555 you got all the different gears in there
dKUAxXzUwq8-00310-00060557-00060813 what a nostalgic pop for me and I just
dKUAxXzUwq8-00311-00060814-00060997 think about Chef Boyardee commercials
dKUAxXzUwq8-00312-00060998-00061162 when I look at this [__] man such it's
dKUAxXzUwq8-00313-00061163-00061471 such a beautiful piece of work here from
dKUAxXzUwq8-00314-00061472-00061678 beast nation but that is not all we have
dKUAxXzUwq8-00315-00061679-00061822 guys I have a few more here that I want
dKUAxXzUwq8-00316-00061823-00062019 to plug in here I do want to also
dKUAxXzUwq8-00317-00062020-00062376 include the Usos now we did get a figure
dKUAxXzUwq8-00318-00062377-00062575 or figures of these in the battle packs
dKUAxXzUwq8-00319-00062576-00062757 of these guys from Wrestlemania 35 I
dKUAxXzUwq8-00320-00062758-00062974 think I think it was WrestleMania 35 I
dKUAxXzUwq8-00321-00062975-00063184 could be wrong about that but the white
dKUAxXzUwq8-00322-00063185-00063346 attires I remember when they came out I
dKUAxXzUwq8-00323-00063347-00063555 think I tweeted that bill and I said bro
dKUAxXzUwq8-00324-00063557-00063712 we got to have these figures I tagged
dKUAxXzUwq8-00325-00063713-00063898 him on IG I said bro we got we got to
dKUAxXzUwq8-00326-00063899-00064099 have these in elite figure form we did
dKUAxXzUwq8-00327-00064100-00064281 get them in basic form but I really want
dKUAxXzUwq8-00328-00064282-00064416 to see him in elites maybe with cloth
dKUAxXzUwq8-00329-00064417-00064629 hoodies with you know white shorts and
dKUAxXzUwq8-00330-00064630-00064830 white socks molds and new shirts and
dKUAxXzUwq8-00331-00064832-00065038 shoes and [__] that would be fantastic
dKUAxXzUwq8-00332-00065039-00065304 man that is this is one of my epic
dKUAxXzUwq8-00333-00065305-00065451 figures that I would like to see an
dKUAxXzUwq8-00334-00065452-00065704 elite figure form and that is the Usos
dKUAxXzUwq8-00335-00065705-00065868 man those are beautiful those white
dKUAxXzUwq8-00336-00065869-00066097 attires man whoo and now we have one
dKUAxXzUwq8-00337-00066098-00066294 less figure guys and I had to throw in a
dKUAxXzUwq8-00338-00066295-00066466 demon Finn Balor if we're not talking
dKUAxXzUwq8-00339-00066467-00066685 about an NXT 20 2015
dKUAxXzUwq8-00340-00066686-00066853 no he'll finn bálor with all his updated
dKUAxXzUwq8-00341-00066854-00067045 tattoos we're gonna talk about a demon
dKUAxXzUwq8-00342-00067046-00067171 finn bálor and i think this is supposed
dKUAxXzUwq8-00343-00067172-00067375 to be SummerSlam 2017 where he took on
dKUAxXzUwq8-00344-00067376-00067582 Bray Wyatt and this is one that I would
dKUAxXzUwq8-00345-00067583-00067729 love to see as well I thought this was
dKUAxXzUwq8-00346-00067730-00067870 some underrated pain I don't think a lot
dKUAxXzUwq8-00347-00067871-00068068 of people mention this paint when they
dKUAxXzUwq8-00348-00068069-00068242 talk about finn bálor customs and finn
dKUAxXzUwq8-00349-00068243-00068389 bálor retires that we want to see from
dKUAxXzUwq8-00350-00068390-00068632 Mattel so I wanted to include it and I
dKUAxXzUwq8-00351-00068633-00068872 think that is my full list I think I
dKUAxXzUwq8-00352-00068873-00068995 don't know how many of that freaking was
dKUAxXzUwq8-00353-00068996-00069130 guys but if I left anything off that you
dKUAxXzUwq8-00354-00069131-00069274 guys want to see please let me know down
dKUAxXzUwq8-00355-00069275-00069385 in the comment section below I would
dKUAxXzUwq8-00356-00069386-00069595 love to see what attires you guys would
dKUAxXzUwq8-00357-00069596-00069736 like to see that would be really awesome
dKUAxXzUwq8-00358-00069737-00069907 so hit me down in the comment section
dKUAxXzUwq8-00359-00069908-00070075 what do you guys want to see from Mattel
dKUAxXzUwq8-00360-00070076-00070252 what attires would you like to see but
dKUAxXzUwq8-00361-00070253-00070420 that is gonna do it for my list I tried
dKUAxXzUwq8-00362-00070421-00070594 my best to think on it I tried to go
dKUAxXzUwq8-00363-00070595-00070705 with some that I think the community
dKUAxXzUwq8-00364-00070706-00070915 would really want to see and if I left
dKUAxXzUwq8-00365-00070916-00071062 out some please let me know guys I know
dKUAxXzUwq8-00366-00071063-00071233 we still have guys that aren't made yet
dKUAxXzUwq8-00367-00071234-00071440 such as the Viking raiders and guys like
dKUAxXzUwq8-00368-00071441-00071647 that but we will get them soon enough I
dKUAxXzUwq8-00369-00071648-00071803 promise but thank you guys for watching
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dKUAxXzUwq8-00373-00072311-00072555 and I'll see you guys in the next video
dKUAxXzUwq8-00374-00072556-00073026 thank you
dKUAxXzUwq8-00375-00073027-00074011 [Music]
dMw36uJnucQ-00000-00000096-00000279 now while my people
dMw36uJnucQ-00001-00000280-00000655 and i want my people
dMw36uJnucQ-00002-00000656-00000943 oh my god i know the bearer of sad music
dMw36uJnucQ-00003-00000944-00001374 but
dMw36uJnucQ-00004-00001375-00001798 sorry just come in right now say
dMw36uJnucQ-00005-00001800-00002215 a nollywood actress
dMw36uJnucQ-00006-00002216-00002479 ada i may
dMw36uJnucQ-00007-00002480-00002791 just collapse and die
dMw36uJnucQ-00008-00002792-00002983 for one delta state
dMw36uJnucQ-00009-00002984-00003175 hospital
dMw36uJnucQ-00010-00003176-00003454 she was only 48 years old she's
dMw36uJnucQ-00011-00003455-00003775 she's had
dMw36uJnucQ-00012-00003776-00004054 hundreds and hundreds of films
dMw36uJnucQ-00013-00004055-00004270 successful films that
dMw36uJnucQ-00014-00004271-00004559 she did under her belt
dMw36uJnucQ-00015-00004560-00004767 she was well known
dMw36uJnucQ-00016-00004768-00004919 and
dMw36uJnucQ-00017-00004920-00005070 it's so sad
dMw36uJnucQ-00018-00005071-00005279 that she slumped and died
dMw36uJnucQ-00019-00005280-00005527 may have soul rest in perfect peace if
dMw36uJnucQ-00020-00005528-00005711 you remember a few
dMw36uJnucQ-00021-00005712-00005991 a few weeks ago a few months ago
dMw36uJnucQ-00022-00005992-00006095 she
dMw36uJnucQ-00023-00006096-00006406 wrote on her social media handles
dMw36uJnucQ-00024-00006408-00006495 that
dMw36uJnucQ-00025-00006495-00006759 she was given a job to do
dMw36uJnucQ-00026-00006759-00006951 but she's not been able to do that job
dMw36uJnucQ-00027-00006952-00007151 because she's having
dMw36uJnucQ-00028-00007152-00007342 facing some challenges
dMw36uJnucQ-00029-00007343-00007583 and that her challenges with we met was
dMw36uJnucQ-00030-00007584-00007831 mental she had mental issues and because
dMw36uJnucQ-00031-00007831-00008039 of her mental issues are challenging
dMw36uJnucQ-00032-00008040-00008287 she's not been able to play that role or
dMw36uJnucQ-00033-00008288-00008510 keep up to the business that she has
dMw36uJnucQ-00034-00008511-00008751 signed and suddenly
dMw36uJnucQ-00035-00008752-00009039 it's just been reported that
dMw36uJnucQ-00036-00009040-00009303 the the lady
dMw36uJnucQ-00037-00009304-00009503 nollywood actress
dMw36uJnucQ-00038-00009504-00009735 ada ame
dMw36uJnucQ-00039-00009736-00009927 passed on
dMw36uJnucQ-00040-00009928-00010167 today
dMw36uJnucQ-00041-00010168-00010487 uh she was a hollywood actress and
dMw36uJnucQ-00042-00010488-00010655 one of them
dMw36uJnucQ-00043-00010656-00010935 sorry there's so much traffic out there
dMw36uJnucQ-00044-00010936-00011135 there's so much traffic i apologize for
dMw36uJnucQ-00045-00011136-00011319 that traffic traffic traffic
dMw36uJnucQ-00046-00011320-00011574 and she was a star of one of a tv series
dMw36uJnucQ-00047-00011575-00011814 called the john cena you understand
dMw36uJnucQ-00048-00011815-00012070 a few a few years a few i think two
dMw36uJnucQ-00049-00012071-00012406 years ago her 32 year old daughter the
dMw36uJnucQ-00050-00012407-00012614 only child she had and she had that
dMw36uJnucQ-00051-00012615-00012927 child when she was 14 years old
dMw36uJnucQ-00052-00012928-00013183 she has been through a lot she was
dMw36uJnucQ-00053-00013184-00013366 successful in her career
dMw36uJnucQ-00054-00013368-00013758 and she's been on tv and on the
dMw36uJnucQ-00055-00013759-00013879 interviews
dMw36uJnucQ-00056-00013880-00014143 to discuss and tell people about her
dMw36uJnucQ-00057-00014144-00014399 life story and her challenges
dMw36uJnucQ-00058-00014400-00014679 and her journey to becoming what she is
dMw36uJnucQ-00059-00014680-00015007 today is successful hollywood actress
dMw36uJnucQ-00060-00015008-00015230 she lost her only child and her only
dMw36uJnucQ-00061-00015231-00015638 daughter a lady god's gift and me and
dMw36uJnucQ-00062-00015640-00015975 she died on tuesday october 20
dMw36uJnucQ-00063-00015976-00016150 2020
dMw36uJnucQ-00064-00016151-00016255 that's
dMw36uJnucQ-00065-00016256-00016447 um october of this year we make it two
dMw36uJnucQ-00066-00016448-00016647 years in less than two years that her
dMw36uJnucQ-00067-00016648-00016886 daughter passed on
dMw36uJnucQ-00068-00016887-00017215 actress ada and me lost her life she's
dMw36uJnucQ-00069-00017216-00017455 from benway state she's a being reborn
dMw36uJnucQ-00070-00017456-00017591 actress
dMw36uJnucQ-00071-00017592-00017791 and um
dMw36uJnucQ-00072-00017792-00018111 she she when she lost her daughter she
dMw36uJnucQ-00073-00018112-00018319 wrote on her social media handle on her
dMw36uJnucQ-00074-00018320-00018607 instagram page and she said
dMw36uJnucQ-00075-00018608-00018855 fans my lovely people pray for me my
dMw36uJnucQ-00076-00018856-00019079 beautiful darling child chose to go and
dMw36uJnucQ-00077-00019080-00019311 be with the lord early events of today
dMw36uJnucQ-00078-00019312-00019543 allah this god's gift and me
dMw36uJnucQ-00079-00019544-00019879 at lala's touched why did you choose to
dMw36uJnucQ-00080-00019880-00020094 leave me now lady how
dMw36uJnucQ-00081-00020095-00020414 you want make i do now i will be strong
dMw36uJnucQ-00082-00020415-00020814 god has to help me if you um if you it's
dMw36uJnucQ-00083-00020815-00021103 so sad it's so sad that
dMw36uJnucQ-00084-00021104-00021303 she's been so helpful
dMw36uJnucQ-00085-00021304-00021678 she ah my god it is really really really
dMw36uJnucQ-00086-00021679-00021767 sad
dMw36uJnucQ-00087-00021768-00022007 she died yesterday night which was on
dMw36uJnucQ-00088-00022008-00022207 sunday night according to the president
dMw36uJnucQ-00089-00022208-00022439 of the ato's guild of nigeria and mecca
dMw36uJnucQ-00090-00022440-00022655 rollers
dMw36uJnucQ-00091-00022656-00022814 the address had
dMw36uJnucQ-00092-00022815-00023007 had few which she had few weeks ago
dMw36uJnucQ-00093-00023008-00023150 opened up about her mental health
dMw36uJnucQ-00094-00023151-00023271 challenges
dMw36uJnucQ-00095-00023272-00023367 after
dMw36uJnucQ-00096-00023368-00023519 losing some
dMw36uJnucQ-00097-00023520-00023799 family members you understand
dMw36uJnucQ-00098-00023800-00023894 and
dMw36uJnucQ-00099-00023895-00024311 before 2020 the actress lost six of her
dMw36uJnucQ-00100-00024312-00024503 siblings
dMw36uJnucQ-00101-00024504-00024758 six of her siblings so over the years
dMw36uJnucQ-00102-00024759-00025030 she's been losing a lot of people in her
dMw36uJnucQ-00103-00025031-00025430 family including her dear and only child
dMw36uJnucQ-00104-00025431-00025750 you understand and she started battling
dMw36uJnucQ-00105-00025751-00025990 with health issues and her condition
dMw36uJnucQ-00106-00025991-00026302 really really deteriorated after losing
dMw36uJnucQ-00107-00026304-00026695 another sister in march of 2020 so she
dMw36uJnucQ-00108-00026695-00026887 lost another sister
dMw36uJnucQ-00109-00026888-00027143 like a few months ago
dMw36uJnucQ-00110-00027144-00027399 and speaking in a television program she
dMw36uJnucQ-00111-00027400-00027607 had said everything was going to be fine
dMw36uJnucQ-00112-00027608-00027870 i have one issue right now and it's
dMw36uJnucQ-00113-00027872-00028111 taking my life i will not die we will
dMw36uJnucQ-00114-00028112-00028431 get survived so she was hopeful you know
dMw36uJnucQ-00115-00028432-00028679 so you can see
dMw36uJnucQ-00116-00028680-00028790 the
dMw36uJnucQ-00117-00028791-00029046 issues the challenges and that she was
dMw36uJnucQ-00118-00029047-00029318 facing that was going on around her
dMw36uJnucQ-00119-00029319-00029607 and i think it just was just too much
dMw36uJnucQ-00120-00029608-00029783 for her to bear
dMw36uJnucQ-00121-00029783-00029990 losing six of her siblings
dMw36uJnucQ-00122-00029991-00030167 losing a sister
dMw36uJnucQ-00123-00030168-00030455 of uh of uh like like three or three
dMw36uJnucQ-00124-00030456-00030679 months ago in match let me say march
dMw36uJnucQ-00125-00030680-00030951 every may june july like three four
dMw36uJnucQ-00126-00030952-00031087 months ago
dMw36uJnucQ-00127-00031088-00031246 of this year
dMw36uJnucQ-00128-00031247-00031455 and before that she lost her daughter so
dMw36uJnucQ-00129-00031456-00031831 it was i think it was a lot for her
dMw36uJnucQ-00130-00031832-00032174 to to to be
dMw36uJnucQ-00131-00032175-00032279 you know
dMw36uJnucQ-00132-00032280-00032567 oh my god the actress she started her
dMw36uJnucQ-00133-00032568-00032927 career about 27 years ago
dMw36uJnucQ-00134-00032928-00033374 and you know she according to her
dMw36uJnucQ-00135-00033375-00033567 she revealed that like i said like i
dMw36uJnucQ-00136-00033568-00033711 mentioned before she revealed that she
dMw36uJnucQ-00137-00033712-00033879 was given a job which she failed to
dMw36uJnucQ-00138-00033880-00034087 deliver because she was battling mental
dMw36uJnucQ-00139-00034088-00034223 illness
dMw36uJnucQ-00140-00034224-00034390 according to her the company did not
dMw36uJnucQ-00141-00034391-00034759 understand what she was going through
dMw36uJnucQ-00142-00034760-00035062 and as such they fired a lawsuit against
dMw36uJnucQ-00143-00035063-00035295 her so you can imagine what she was
dMw36uJnucQ-00144-00035296-00035479 going through she's not she wasn't
dMw36uJnucQ-00145-00035480-00035790 married she was a single parent and in
dMw36uJnucQ-00146-00035791-00036015 in the environment that she is and the
dMw36uJnucQ-00147-00036016-00036199 country that she is she i don't think
dMw36uJnucQ-00148-00036200-00036607 she had much support here oh my god oh
dMw36uJnucQ-00149-00036608-00036855 my god how she just gave up
dMw36uJnucQ-00150-00036856-00036951 you know
dMw36uJnucQ-00151-00036952-00037127 and
dMw36uJnucQ-00152-00037128-00037374 the company
dMw36uJnucQ-00153-00037375-00037455 um
dMw36uJnucQ-00154-00037456-00037711 the late actress ada and me claimed the
dMw36uJnucQ-00155-00037712-00037967 country was the the company
dMw36uJnucQ-00156-00037968-00038327 was suing her for a staggering amount
dMw36uJnucQ-00157-00038328-00038439 which
dMw36uJnucQ-00158-00038440-00038567 seems
dMw36uJnucQ-00159-00038568-00038839 very unable to afford how much should
dMw36uJnucQ-00160-00038840-00038974 they get paid
dMw36uJnucQ-00161-00038975-00039230 you know she started her career 27 years
dMw36uJnucQ-00162-00039231-00039318 ago
dMw36uJnucQ-00163-00039319-00039446 and she
dMw36uJnucQ-00164-00039447-00039662 ada admitted that lawsuit had taken a
dMw36uJnucQ-00165-00039663-00039839 toll on her plus what she was going
dMw36uJnucQ-00166-00039840-00039983 through the mental challenges she was
dMw36uJnucQ-00167-00039984-00040151 going through upon
dMw36uJnucQ-00168-00040152-00040487 losing her dear sister in march of this
dMw36uJnucQ-00169-00040488-00040735 year 2022 and then her daughter a year
dMw36uJnucQ-00170-00040736-00040951 in less than a year two years
dMw36uJnucQ-00171-00040952-00041079 previously
dMw36uJnucQ-00172-00041080-00041335 and she couldn't allow it to weigh her
dMw36uJnucQ-00173-00041336-00041471 down
dMw36uJnucQ-00174-00041472-00041727 and it would not kill her
dMw36uJnucQ-00175-00041728-00041830 you know
dMw36uJnucQ-00176-00041831-00042127 so it's so sad i would want to
dMw36uJnucQ-00177-00042128-00042455 oh my god this this is really really
dMw36uJnucQ-00178-00042456-00042615 really really sad
dMw36uJnucQ-00179-00042616-00042790 you know um
dMw36uJnucQ-00180-00042791-00043151 according to reports
dMw36uJnucQ-00181-00043152-00043423 the the actress was said to have been a
dMw36uJnucQ-00182-00043424-00043518 guest
dMw36uJnucQ-00183-00043519-00043783 of an oil company top shots
dMw36uJnucQ-00184-00043784-00044158 and his family when she suddenly
dMw36uJnucQ-00185-00044159-00044295 slumped
dMw36uJnucQ-00186-00044296-00044551 during a gathering
dMw36uJnucQ-00187-00044552-00044830 you understand she was reportedly rushed
dMw36uJnucQ-00188-00044831-00045199 to the nnpc hospital in warrideta state
dMw36uJnucQ-00189-00045200-00045479 where she was confirmed dured
dMw36uJnucQ-00190-00045480-00045671 you will be recalled that a few weeks
dMw36uJnucQ-00191-00045672-00045862 ago the actress revealed that she was
dMw36uJnucQ-00192-00045863-00046215 going through some melted mental illness
dMw36uJnucQ-00193-00046216-00046399 and she said that everything was going
dMw36uJnucQ-00194-00046400-00046607 to be fine i have an issue right now and
dMw36uJnucQ-00195-00046608-00046830 it's taking my life and no one die we
dMw36uJnucQ-00196-00046831-00047046 will get over it we'll get to varied i
dMw36uJnucQ-00197-00047047-00047223 was given a job and i didn't do the job
dMw36uJnucQ-00198-00047224-00047558 because i had mental issue
dMw36uJnucQ-00199-00047559-00047743 would people understand when you say you
dMw36uJnucQ-00200-00047744-00047951 have mental issues they wouldn't they
dMw36uJnucQ-00201-00047952-00048183 are slamming me with a bill suing me
dMw36uJnucQ-00202-00048184-00048479 it's okay oh my god come on now
dMw36uJnucQ-00203-00048480-00048671 the movie star lost our only child back
dMw36uJnucQ-00204-00048672-00048974 in 2020 after a surgery gone wrong
dMw36uJnucQ-00205-00048975-00049167 that's nigeria for you
dMw36uJnucQ-00206-00049168-00049335 that child shouldn't have died just
dMw36uJnucQ-00207-00049336-00049511 because of the incompetence of the
dMw36uJnucQ-00208-00049512-00049751 health care services that is known and
dMw36uJnucQ-00209-00049752-00049951 little existence in nigeria people have
dMw36uJnucQ-00210-00049952-00050079 lost their life people who are supposed
dMw36uJnucQ-00211-00050080-00050302 to be living still living today have
dMw36uJnucQ-00212-00050303-00050551 actually gone to the great prematurely
dMw36uJnucQ-00213-00050552-00050951 due to lack of good medical facilities
dMw36uJnucQ-00214-00050952-00051294 and support and aftercare emma is one of
dMw36uJnucQ-00215-00051295-00051526 the most popular actors in hollywood
dMw36uJnucQ-00216-00051527-00051790 with a career spanning over two decades
dMw36uJnucQ-00217-00051791-00052135 she first rose to stardom in the 1996
dMw36uJnucQ-00218-00052136-00052430 hit movie domitila
dMw36uJnucQ-00219-00052432-00052679 ame is also popular for her character
dMw36uJnucQ-00220-00052679-00053023 emil in the heat cv series series tbc
dMw36uJnucQ-00221-00053024-00053254 and drama series the johnsons may have
dMw36uJnucQ-00222-00053255-00053526 so rest in perfect peace i mean a few
dMw36uJnucQ-00223-00053527-00053735 weeks ago i was seeing it on instagram
dMw36uJnucQ-00224-00053736-00054007 when she was asking after
dMw36uJnucQ-00225-00054008-00054279 and it was a social conversation between
dMw36uJnucQ-00226-00054279-00054607 herself and actress uh empores in jama
dMw36uJnucQ-00227-00054608-00054838 they happen to be very very good friends
dMw36uJnucQ-00228-00054839-00054975 and things like that she was going
dMw36uJnucQ-00229-00054976-00055071 through
dMw36uJnucQ-00230-00055072-00055311 okay i there this is a country where you
dMw36uJnucQ-00231-00055312-00055559 have people who are billionaires selling
dMw36uJnucQ-00232-00055560-00055775 billionaires no one could come to the
dMw36uJnucQ-00233-00055776-00056030 aid of this lady to help her
dMw36uJnucQ-00234-00056032-00056254 she needed so-called all she needed was
dMw36uJnucQ-00235-00056255-00056503 to stay away from that environment come
dMw36uJnucQ-00236-00056504-00056671 to somewhere like america go to
dMw36uJnucQ-00237-00056672-00056991 somewhere abroad and just relax and have
dMw36uJnucQ-00238-00056991-00057391 that support and love
dMw36uJnucQ-00239-00057391-00057647 it's so painful it's so painful
dMw36uJnucQ-00240-00057648-00057726 that
dMw36uJnucQ-00241-00057727-00058015 this lady gave up and she died and she
dMw36uJnucQ-00242-00058016-00058142 was only
dMw36uJnucQ-00243-00058144-00058559 48 years old we have beautiful soul fine
dMw36uJnucQ-00244-00058560-00058735 it turned out rest
dMw36uJnucQ-00245-00058736-00058991 and to all her siblings that she lost
dMw36uJnucQ-00246-00058991-00059223 ceasing through back to back including
dMw36uJnucQ-00247-00059224-00059430 her only child i'm sure they are all
dMw36uJnucQ-00248-00059432-00059711 resting and happy in heaven in the bosom
dMw36uJnucQ-00249-00059712-00060071 of god god bless that family amen
dMw36uJnucQ-00250-00060072-00060430 thank you all for listening to my short
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dUyLxvp43Bg-00031-00008811-00008971 you
dUyLxvp43Bg-00032-00008972-00009178 you
dUISaxu3VNQ-00000-00000000-00000209 today we announcing the nomination of
dUISaxu3VNQ-00001-00000210-00000388 William Floyd to lead the South Carolina
dUISaxu3VNQ-00002-00000389-00000595 Department of Employment and Workforce
dUISaxu3VNQ-00003-00000596-00000850 and that some of the folks here may have
dUISaxu3VNQ-00004-00000851-00001115 to leave momentarily to gavel in the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00005-00001116-00001361 senate or get called otherwise so we'll
dUISaxu3VNQ-00006-00001362-00001523 we'll move right along we have a number
dUISaxu3VNQ-00007-00001524-00001684 of speakers
dUISaxu3VNQ-00008-00001685-00001984 I'd say just briefly that this is an
dUISaxu3VNQ-00009-00001985-00002218 enormously important position as you've
dUISaxu3VNQ-00010-00002219-00002459 seen for a number of years particularly
dUISaxu3VNQ-00011-00002460-00002609 the last few
dUISaxu3VNQ-00012-00002610-00002971 oh it's a jurisdiction has been
dUISaxu3VNQ-00013-00002972-00003269 expanded with the work that was required
dUISaxu3VNQ-00014-00003270-00003413 in the pandemic
dUISaxu3VNQ-00015-00003414-00003631 and when Danny Elsie
dUISaxu3VNQ-00016-00003632-00003886 undertook that position the next thing
dUISaxu3VNQ-00017-00003888-00004103 we knew here came here came the pandemic
dUISaxu3VNQ-00018-00004104-00004361 but despite that South Carolina
dUISaxu3VNQ-00019-00004362-00004559 continued to grow
dUISaxu3VNQ-00020-00004560-00004865 and we are we are booming now as you
dUISaxu3VNQ-00021-00004866-00005117 know with recent announcements that are
dUISaxu3VNQ-00022-00005118-00005417 really off the scale and great news for
dUISaxu3VNQ-00023-00005418-00005704 our people but the job of all the state
dUISaxu3VNQ-00024-00005705-00006151 agencies everything we do is integrally
dUISaxu3VNQ-00025-00006152-00006539 entwined with Workforce Development good
dUISaxu3VNQ-00026-00006540-00006796 health Broadband everything the schools
dUISaxu3VNQ-00027-00006797-00006923 education
dUISaxu3VNQ-00028-00006923-00007042 so
dUISaxu3VNQ-00029-00007043-00007456 we communicate collaborate and cooperate
dUISaxu3VNQ-00030-00007458-00007792 unlike any other state we have members
dUISaxu3VNQ-00031-00007793-00008092 of our cabinet that go to the military
dUISaxu3VNQ-00032-00008093-00008410 base task force to determine what more
dUISaxu3VNQ-00033-00008411-00008603 the state can do to help help our
dUISaxu3VNQ-00034-00008604-00008824 veterans and as you know our veterans
dUISaxu3VNQ-00035-00008825-00009095 are a great source of talent as well as
dUISaxu3VNQ-00036-00009096-00009424 inspiration in our state and we're going
dUISaxu3VNQ-00037-00009425-00009641 to have a number of military leaders
dUISaxu3VNQ-00038-00009642-00009874 here in a little while we have eight
dUISaxu3VNQ-00039-00009875-00010133 mill eight major bases and South
dUISaxu3VNQ-00040-00010134-00010385 Carolina is I think still the only state
dUISaxu3VNQ-00041-00010386-00010678 that has signed an agreement with the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00042-00010679-00010901 United States Army is called the the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00043-00010902-00011105 pays program
dUISaxu3VNQ-00044-00011106-00011669 and it is for providing jobs for retired
dUISaxu3VNQ-00045-00011670-00011963 military and what it means is that
dUISaxu3VNQ-00046-00011964-00012178 anyone that leaves the United States
dUISaxu3VNQ-00047-00012179-00012371 Army and comes to South Carolina will
dUISaxu3VNQ-00048-00012372-00012670 guarantee them five five job interviews
dUISaxu3VNQ-00049-00012671-00013007 as you know we are working to move the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00050-00013008-00013325 interstate internet out away from the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00051-00013326-00013619 interstates and into the small towns the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00052-00013619-00013836 small roads the dirt roads so everyone
dUISaxu3VNQ-00053-00013837-00014261 has access to broadband also just a
dUISaxu3VNQ-00054-00014262-00014416 little while ago we had meeting with
dUISaxu3VNQ-00055-00014418-00014693 meetings with the hospital systems to
dUISaxu3VNQ-00056-00014694-00014908 see about expanding the opportunities
dUISaxu3VNQ-00057-00014909-00015166 for good health for all of our people so
dUISaxu3VNQ-00058-00015168-00015466 it all fits together is my point but
dUISaxu3VNQ-00059-00015468-00015743 this particular agency employment and
dUISaxu3VNQ-00060-00015744-00015971 Workforce is right in the middle of it
dUISaxu3VNQ-00061-00015972-00016415 and serves as a place to coordinate with
dUISaxu3VNQ-00062-00016416-00016607 all the other agencies and make sure
dUISaxu3VNQ-00063-00016608-00016829 that we're bringing all the assets to
dUISaxu3VNQ-00064-00016830-00017093 the Forefront its job is to help people
dUISaxu3VNQ-00065-00017094-00017327 find jobs and these are things that
dUISaxu3VNQ-00066-00017328-00017680 Danny ellsey expanded dramatically and
dUISaxu3VNQ-00067-00017681-00017885 provided a model for the rest of the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00068-00017886-00018143 country in matching people who were
dUISaxu3VNQ-00069-00018144-00018394 looking for jobs with the jobs who were
dUISaxu3VNQ-00070-00018395-00018599 looking for people and it's worked
dUISaxu3VNQ-00071-00018600-00018850 extraordinarily well we have the best
dUISaxu3VNQ-00072-00018851-00019039 technical college system in the world
dUISaxu3VNQ-00073-00019040-00019349 that also goes towards Workforce we have
dUISaxu3VNQ-00074-00019350-00019621 16 of them as you know and the the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00075-00019622-00019829 legislature the general assembly is
dUISaxu3VNQ-00076-00019830-00020147 providing funds for that we've been
dUISaxu3VNQ-00077-00020148-00020339 doing it it is enormously accessible
dUISaxu3VNQ-00078-00020340-00020579 particularly the workforce scholarship
dUISaxu3VNQ-00079-00020580-00020891 program where those businesses seeking
dUISaxu3VNQ-00080-00020892-00021161 employees to come work in high demand
dUISaxu3VNQ-00081-00021162-00021472 Fields can those those people can get
dUISaxu3VNQ-00082-00021473-00021658 scholarships to go to our technical
dUISaxu3VNQ-00083-00021659-00021886 college system we're matching the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00084-00021887-00022150 businesses with qualified candidates
dUISaxu3VNQ-00085-00022151-00022414 we're reviewing statistics to see where
dUISaxu3VNQ-00086-00022415-00022708 the employees are where the jobs are
dUISaxu3VNQ-00087-00022709-00022949 what the national Trends are how we fit
dUISaxu3VNQ-00088-00022950-00023225 into that and how we can be ahead of the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00089-00023226-00023458 curve and seeing that our people in our
dUISaxu3VNQ-00090-00023459-00023777 state have the opportunity for the best
dUISaxu3VNQ-00091-00023778-00024100 jobs that we can have in the nation so
dUISaxu3VNQ-00092-00024101-00024377 Danny Elsey has been
dUISaxu3VNQ-00093-00024378-00024641 doing this job for over four years and
dUISaxu3VNQ-00094-00024642-00025049 has taken this agency to even levels
dUISaxu3VNQ-00095-00025050-00025457 that we had not conceived of until the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00096-00025458-00025672 pandemic hit and then we saw how much we
dUISaxu3VNQ-00097-00025673-00025846 can really do when we really do have to
dUISaxu3VNQ-00098-00025847-00026087 so I'd like now as we move with the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00099-00026088-00026345 speakers to call on Danny Elsie
dUISaxu3VNQ-00100-00026345-00026555 thank you governor
dUISaxu3VNQ-00101-00026556-00026767 good morning everyone
dUISaxu3VNQ-00102-00026768-00027017 legislators William
dUISaxu3VNQ-00103-00027018-00027346 state agency heads that I see here
dUISaxu3VNQ-00104-00027347-00027539 Business Leaders appreciate all of you
dUISaxu3VNQ-00105-00027539-00027761 coming as the governor said this is a
dUISaxu3VNQ-00106-00027762-00028018 very important position for the uh for
dUISaxu3VNQ-00107-00028019-00028157 the state of South Carolina and it's
dUISaxu3VNQ-00108-00028158-00028468 going to become even more important as I
dUISaxu3VNQ-00109-00028469-00028655 see secretary leitzy standing over here
dUISaxu3VNQ-00110-00028656-00028811 all of us know what's just been
dUISaxu3VNQ-00111-00028812-00028981 announced in the state of South Carolina
dUISaxu3VNQ-00112-00028982-00029351 the BMW EV the battery plant in Florence
dUISaxu3VNQ-00113-00029352-00029674 recycling plant in Berkeley County the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00114-00029675-00030023 new Scout plant in Richland County every
dUISaxu3VNQ-00115-00030024-00030151 one of those are going to require
dUISaxu3VNQ-00116-00030152-00030395 thousands of employees thousands and
dUISaxu3VNQ-00117-00030395-00030545 thousands of employees many of them
dUISaxu3VNQ-00118-00030545-00030689 going to have to be skilled engineers
dUISaxu3VNQ-00119-00030689-00030827 and we're going to have to make sure
dUISaxu3VNQ-00120-00030827-00031043 that we are producing the number of
dUISaxu3VNQ-00121-00031044-00031211 Engineers that we need and that we're
dUISaxu3VNQ-00122-00031212-00031385 going to have enough people who are
dUISaxu3VNQ-00123-00031386-00031583 trainable to go into those plants and do
dUISaxu3VNQ-00124-00031583-00031770 the work that is going to be required
dUISaxu3VNQ-00125-00031772-00032087 and that is exactly what this agency
dUISaxu3VNQ-00126-00032088-00032362 does we anticipate Workforce needs we
dUISaxu3VNQ-00127-00032363-00032561 run the federal training programs we're
dUISaxu3VNQ-00128-00032562-00032723 involved in a lot of State training
dUISaxu3VNQ-00129-00032724-00032837 programs
dUISaxu3VNQ-00130-00032838-00033202 we assess our needs we do Gap analysis
dUISaxu3VNQ-00131-00033203-00033352 to look at what we've got and figure out
dUISaxu3VNQ-00132-00033353-00033593 what we're going to need and set those
dUISaxu3VNQ-00133-00033594-00033935 up numbers so this agency in my opinion
dUISaxu3VNQ-00134-00033936-00034049 is going to become more and more
dUISaxu3VNQ-00135-00034050-00034259 important there is legislation pending
dUISaxu3VNQ-00136-00034260-00034451 that will consolidate an awful lot of
dUISaxu3VNQ-00137-00034452-00034715 Workforce Development and if it does you
dUISaxu3VNQ-00138-00034716-00034945 are going to have by far the best
dUISaxu3VNQ-00139-00034946-00035231 Workforce Development agency in the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00140-00035232-00035501 state of South Carolina that in the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00141-00035502-00035711 nation excuse me so it's going to be
dUISaxu3VNQ-00142-00035712-00035957 wonderful for us now let me talk for a
dUISaxu3VNQ-00143-00035958-00036155 few minutes about the nominee William
dUISaxu3VNQ-00144-00036156-00036323 Floyd this is someone that I've known
dUISaxu3VNQ-00145-00036324-00036677 for 40 years I was as most of you know
dUISaxu3VNQ-00146-00036678-00036995 of labor law management labor lawyer for
dUISaxu3VNQ-00147-00036996-00037324 about 45 years and about 40 years ago I
dUISaxu3VNQ-00148-00037325-00037571 met William Floyd he was a young law
dUISaxu3VNQ-00149-00037572-00037781 student he was applying for a summer
dUISaxu3VNQ-00150-00037782-00038111 internship position with my firm among I
dUISaxu3VNQ-00151-00038112-00038285 might add many many highly qualified
dUISaxu3VNQ-00152-00038286-00038530 candidates it was a good job he was
dUISaxu3VNQ-00153-00038531-00038771 selected for it went to work for us did
dUISaxu3VNQ-00154-00038772-00039023 a great job ultimately was hired as a
dUISaxu3VNQ-00155-00039024-00039412 first-year associate with the firm he
dUISaxu3VNQ-00156-00039413-00039640 succeeded did very well became a partner
dUISaxu3VNQ-00157-00039641-00039845 and had a wonderful career doing a labor
dUISaxu3VNQ-00158-00039846-00040157 and employment law both which is exactly
dUISaxu3VNQ-00159-00040158-00040349 what I did and which is what I think is
dUISaxu3VNQ-00160-00040350-00040471 a perfect
dUISaxu3VNQ-00161-00040472-00040817 prerequisite for experience to come in
dUISaxu3VNQ-00162-00040818-00041177 and handle this job
dUISaxu3VNQ-00163-00041178-00041380 in June of last year
dUISaxu3VNQ-00164-00041381-00041590 we
dUISaxu3VNQ-00165-00041591-00041801 changed our relationship and William
dUISaxu3VNQ-00166-00041802-00041999 came to work for us he retired from his
dUISaxu3VNQ-00167-00042000-00042340 firm next in Pruitt and came to work for
dUISaxu3VNQ-00168-00042341-00042443 the Department of Employment at
dUISaxu3VNQ-00169-00042444-00042785 Workforce as our chief of staff and in
dUISaxu3VNQ-00170-00042786-00042935 doing that he went through extensive
dUISaxu3VNQ-00171-00042936-00043129 training for a couple months
dUISaxu3VNQ-00172-00043130-00043390 formalized to set out training to
dUISaxu3VNQ-00173-00043391-00043661 introduce him to every aspect of the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00174-00043662-00043930 agency from unemployment to Workforce
dUISaxu3VNQ-00175-00043931-00044167 Development the training programs the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00176-00044168-00044465 American job centers running them and
dUISaxu3VNQ-00177-00044466-00044602 the labor market information which is
dUISaxu3VNQ-00178-00044603-00044824 becoming and more and more important
dUISaxu3VNQ-00179-00044825-00045095 part of our agency where we do analytic
dUISaxu3VNQ-00180-00045096-00045443 studies of the of the workforce once he
dUISaxu3VNQ-00181-00045444-00045587 got through his training he started
dUISaxu3VNQ-00182-00045588-00045761 getting assignments and he had project
dUISaxu3VNQ-00183-00045762-00045958 after Trump project where he learned
dUISaxu3VNQ-00184-00045959-00046168 more and more and he did that for months
dUISaxu3VNQ-00185-00046169-00046379 and months and then in January and
dUISaxu3VNQ-00186-00046380-00046571 February this year he basically was
dUISaxu3VNQ-00187-00046572-00046799 sitting by my side as we were in every
dUISaxu3VNQ-00188-00046800-00046985 meeting making decisions thinking
dUISaxu3VNQ-00189-00046986-00047196 through issues looking at how it
dUISaxu3VNQ-00190-00047197-00047452 affected Us in the state of South
dUISaxu3VNQ-00191-00047453-00047783 Carolina I can't think of anyone
dUISaxu3VNQ-00192-00047784-00048161 at all that would be more qualified than
dUISaxu3VNQ-00193-00048162-00048485 he is to take the job he he not only has
dUISaxu3VNQ-00194-00048486-00048671 the background but he has the experience
dUISaxu3VNQ-00195-00048672-00049030 of doing what we do let me also say that
dUISaxu3VNQ-00196-00049031-00049289 he is a good person an honest person a
dUISaxu3VNQ-00197-00049290-00049649 smart person a hard-working person and a
dUISaxu3VNQ-00198-00049650-00049858 leader and those are the characteristics
dUISaxu3VNQ-00199-00049859-00050021 that you want in someone who's going to
dUISaxu3VNQ-00200-00050022-00050302 run a state agency and is exactly what
dUISaxu3VNQ-00201-00050303-00050423 we need
dUISaxu3VNQ-00202-00050424-00050746 I guess it's now they need at the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00203-00050747-00050927 Department of Employment and Workforce
dUISaxu3VNQ-00204-00050928-00051220 so I support him 100 and I think he'll
dUISaxu3VNQ-00205-00051221-00051407 be great for the agency and for the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00206-00051408-00051587 state of South Carolina and I will now
dUISaxu3VNQ-00207-00051588-00052235 turn the podium over to William
dUISaxu3VNQ-00208-00052236-00052451 well good morning and what an
dUISaxu3VNQ-00209-00052452-00052571 introduction
dUISaxu3VNQ-00210-00052572-00052625 um
dUISaxu3VNQ-00211-00052626-00052835 Governor thank you for your confidence
dUISaxu3VNQ-00212-00052836-00052942 in me
dUISaxu3VNQ-00213-00052944-00053176 Dan thank you for that very kind and
dUISaxu3VNQ-00214-00053177-00053399 generous introduction it's a privilege
dUISaxu3VNQ-00215-00053400-00053623 to be here today
dUISaxu3VNQ-00216-00053624-00053915 as Dan was mentioning I've practiced
dUISaxu3VNQ-00217-00053916-00054130 labor and employment law for more than
dUISaxu3VNQ-00218-00054132-00054550 35 years and I represented clients both
dUISaxu3VNQ-00219-00054551-00054880 big and small and most of them related
dUISaxu3VNQ-00220-00054882-00055157 to Workforce related issues
dUISaxu3VNQ-00221-00055158-00055475 so I on a client-by-client basis I help
dUISaxu3VNQ-00222-00055476-00055691 them with their Workforce issues in
dUISaxu3VNQ-00223-00055691-00055894 South Carolina as well as outside of
dUISaxu3VNQ-00224-00055895-00056038 South Carolina
dUISaxu3VNQ-00225-00056039-00056303 also during this time I was a member of
dUISaxu3VNQ-00226-00056304-00056537 the Society of human resource managers
dUISaxu3VNQ-00227-00056538-00056963 Sherm for more than 20 years I was
dUISaxu3VNQ-00228-00056964-00057203 actively involved and one thing I
dUISaxu3VNQ-00229-00057204-00057521 learned from our HR managers is that
dUISaxu3VNQ-00230-00057522-00057838 it's very challenging sometimes to
dUISaxu3VNQ-00231-00057839-00057965 recruit
dUISaxu3VNQ-00232-00057966-00058313 train and retain employees
dUISaxu3VNQ-00233-00058314-00058588 so I heard from the inside out about
dUISaxu3VNQ-00234-00058589-00058738 those challenges
dUISaxu3VNQ-00235-00058739-00059038 and then I also considered what the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00236-00059039-00059207 governor mentioned as well
dUISaxu3VNQ-00237-00059208-00059447 about the awesome technical college
dUISaxu3VNQ-00238-00059448-00059626 system we have here in South Carolina
dUISaxu3VNQ-00239-00059627-00059873 we're extremely blessed to have that and
dUISaxu3VNQ-00240-00059874-00060125 and it's my honor to serve on the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00241-00060126-00060388 technical college board so I've seen the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00242-00060389-00060737 hard work that goes on on that board as
dUISaxu3VNQ-00243-00060738-00060880 well as in each of the technical
dUISaxu3VNQ-00244-00060882-00061115 colleges as they are lifting this up
dUISaxu3VNQ-00245-00061116-00061319 whether you've never been to school
dUISaxu3VNQ-00246-00061320-00061499 before and you need to get trained or
dUISaxu3VNQ-00247-00061500-00061673 whether this is the second time around
dUISaxu3VNQ-00248-00061674-00061900 that the technical college system is
dUISaxu3VNQ-00249-00061901-00062099 ready for that next step
dUISaxu3VNQ-00250-00062100-00062309 and so we're very fortunate to have that
dUISaxu3VNQ-00251-00062310-00062530 as we are looking forward to all the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00252-00062532-00062819 great opportunities that come to South
dUISaxu3VNQ-00253-00062820-00063100 Carolina both in the past as well as now
dUISaxu3VNQ-00254-00063101-00063394 so having done that practice law for 35
dUISaxu3VNQ-00255-00063395-00063587 years I I was thinking what's the next
dUISaxu3VNQ-00256-00063588-00063803 step and I can think of No Greater honor
dUISaxu3VNQ-00257-00063804-00064103 of public service where I could combine
dUISaxu3VNQ-00258-00064104-00064421 my my love of Public Service uh as well
dUISaxu3VNQ-00259-00064422-00064630 as my love of South Carolina and when I
dUISaxu3VNQ-00260-00064632-00064853 do that at the best agency in my opinion
dUISaxu3VNQ-00261-00064854-00065087 and that's the agency that we're here
dUISaxu3VNQ-00262-00065088-00065242 today talking about the Department of
dUISaxu3VNQ-00263-00065244-00065506 Employment and Workforce because it's at
dUISaxu3VNQ-00264-00065507-00065776 that agency where Workforce is done day
dUISaxu3VNQ-00265-00065777-00066065 in and day out we have an awesome team
dUISaxu3VNQ-00266-00066066-00066479 at do and this team is spread across the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00267-00066480-00066803 state based in Colombia and every day
dUISaxu3VNQ-00268-00066804-00067144 what we do at do is Workforce
dUISaxu3VNQ-00269-00067145-00067453 Development also unemployment insurance
dUISaxu3VNQ-00270-00067454-00067806 LMI and and other
dUISaxu3VNQ-00271-00067807-00068188 awesome related divisions that do the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00272-00068189-00068344 great work of Doom
dUISaxu3VNQ-00273-00068345-00068765 one thing that we do at do Governor is
dUISaxu3VNQ-00274-00068766-00068993 we uh don't you love that acronym I just
dUISaxu3VNQ-00275-00068994-00069094 love it
dUISaxu3VNQ-00276-00069095-00069425 is we practice the three C's and I think
dUISaxu3VNQ-00277-00069426-00069635 you mentioned the fourth one as well so
dUISaxu3VNQ-00278-00069636-00070097 we communicate and we cooperate and we
dUISaxu3VNQ-00279-00070098-00070355 collaborate and we do it very well as a
dUISaxu3VNQ-00280-00070356-00070606 team but the the fourth C the one you
dUISaxu3VNQ-00281-00070607-00070709 mentioned
dUISaxu3VNQ-00282-00070710-00070943 we also coordinate and what I look
dUISaxu3VNQ-00283-00070944-00071069 forward to do
dUISaxu3VNQ-00284-00071070-00071513 at do both as the acting executive
dUISaxu3VNQ-00285-00071514-00071806 director and then if if confirmed by the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00286-00071807-00072149 Senate as uh the agency director is to
dUISaxu3VNQ-00287-00072150-00072563 continue the hard but very important
dUISaxu3VNQ-00288-00072564-00072844 task of coordinating the Workforce
dUISaxu3VNQ-00289-00072845-00073055 Development pipeline which is a vital
dUISaxu3VNQ-00290-00073056-00073349 thing needed for South Carolina's
dUISaxu3VNQ-00291-00073350-00073594 continued growth so Governor thank you
dUISaxu3VNQ-00292-00073595-00073781 for that opportunity
dUISaxu3VNQ-00293-00073782-00073943 director elzing thank you for the kind
dUISaxu3VNQ-00294-00073944-00074159 introduction and it's a privilege to be
dUISaxu3VNQ-00295-00074160-00074350 here very excited about this opportunity
dUISaxu3VNQ-00296-00074351-00074579 if I may turn over the podium to
dUISaxu3VNQ-00297-00074580-00075031 Chairman Sanderford
dUISaxu3VNQ-00298-00075032-00075329 Governor we'll see you thank you for
dUISaxu3VNQ-00299-00075330-00075497 allowing me to come and speak with you
dUISaxu3VNQ-00300-00075498-00075706 for just a few minutes I chair the house
dUISaxu3VNQ-00301-00075707-00075917 labor Commerce and industry committee
dUISaxu3VNQ-00302-00075918-00076181 which is all the businesses of South
dUISaxu3VNQ-00303-00076182-00076288 Carolina
dUISaxu3VNQ-00304-00076289-00076565 but I want to specifically talk just a
dUISaxu3VNQ-00305-00076566-00076762 moment about a bill that will receive
dUISaxu3VNQ-00306-00076763-00077021 third reading in the house today and
dUISaxu3VNQ-00307-00077022-00077237 will be sent to the Senate and it's
dUISaxu3VNQ-00308-00077238-00077405 dealing with the Department of
dUISaxu3VNQ-00309-00077406-00077597 Employment and Workforce
dUISaxu3VNQ-00310-00077598-00077806 there's a lot of work been going on
dUISaxu3VNQ-00311-00077807-00078097 behind the scenes for several months now
dUISaxu3VNQ-00312-00078098-00078526 to work out the details of a bill that
dUISaxu3VNQ-00313-00078527-00078935 changes the way do actually operates one
dUISaxu3VNQ-00314-00078936-00079109 of the things that I find so very
dUISaxu3VNQ-00315-00079110-00079367 interesting is that there will be a
dUISaxu3VNQ-00316-00079368-00079756 website on which employers can show that
dUISaxu3VNQ-00317-00079757-00079973 they're looking for employees and what
dUISaxu3VNQ-00318-00079974-00080399 type but also that employees can get on
dUISaxu3VNQ-00319-00080400-00080776 that same website and let employers know
dUISaxu3VNQ-00320-00080777-00081071 that they are available to work and I
dUISaxu3VNQ-00321-00081072-00081311 think this is critical to the way we do
dUISaxu3VNQ-00322-00081312-00081617 things we're trying to not only educate
dUISaxu3VNQ-00323-00081618-00081911 people but at the same time trying to
dUISaxu3VNQ-00324-00081912-00082126 make sure that the workforce is
dUISaxu3VNQ-00325-00082127-00082499 available and ready to go to work so I
dUISaxu3VNQ-00326-00082500-00082756 think if if we had an acronym for ready
dUISaxu3VNQ-00327-00082757-00083050 SC that's it we've got to have those
dUISaxu3VNQ-00328-00083051-00083344 employees as the Director talked a few
dUISaxu3VNQ-00329-00083345-00083638 moments ago we are looking forward to
dUISaxu3VNQ-00330-00083639-00083915 working with the new director one of my
dUISaxu3VNQ-00331-00083916-00084137 staff members has interviewed him
dUISaxu3VNQ-00332-00084138-00084497 multiple times I'm confident that he
dUISaxu3VNQ-00333-00084498-00084791 will do an outstanding job for the state
dUISaxu3VNQ-00334-00084792-00085025 of South Carolina and I thank director
dUISaxu3VNQ-00335-00085026-00085288 you will find that this new bill that
dUISaxu3VNQ-00336-00085289-00085469 we're passing in the house today and
dUISaxu3VNQ-00337-00085470-00085715 will be going to the Senate I think you
dUISaxu3VNQ-00338-00085716-00086153 can find that helps you in your job as
dUISaxu3VNQ-00339-00086154-00086356 as the Director of the Department of
dUISaxu3VNQ-00340-00086357-00086579 Employment and Workforce so with that
dUISaxu3VNQ-00341-00086580-00086776 I'll quit but I do thank you for the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00342-00086777-00087005 opportunity to come and speak thank you
dUISaxu3VNQ-00343-00087006-00087305 Steve Gilbert yes sir
dUISaxu3VNQ-00344-00087306-00087556 thank you
dUISaxu3VNQ-00345-00087557-00087682 well good afternoon I'm Stephen
dUISaxu3VNQ-00346-00087683-00087917 Gilchrist chairman and CEO of the South
dUISaxu3VNQ-00347-00087918-00088073 Carolina African-American Chamber of
dUISaxu3VNQ-00348-00088074-00088187 Commerce and Governor I want to thank
dUISaxu3VNQ-00349-00088188-00088373 you for having me here today and I
dUISaxu3VNQ-00350-00088374-00088649 certainly want to commend my colleague
dUISaxu3VNQ-00351-00088650-00088756 uh
dUISaxu3VNQ-00352-00088757-00089038 William Floyd for being the nominee to
dUISaxu3VNQ-00353-00089039-00089153 the Department of Employment and
dUISaxu3VNQ-00354-00089154-00089459 Workforce director Elsie let me thank
dUISaxu3VNQ-00355-00089460-00089759 you sir for your work over the last few
dUISaxu3VNQ-00356-00089760-00089975 years at the Department of Employment
dUISaxu3VNQ-00357-00089976-00090238 and Workforce during covet we saw about
dUISaxu3VNQ-00358-00090239-00090526 30 percent of our chamber lose uh
dUISaxu3VNQ-00359-00090527-00090899 businesses due to the pandemic one of
dUISaxu3VNQ-00360-00090900-00091037 the things that we were grateful for was
dUISaxu3VNQ-00361-00091038-00091241 that we did not lose many entrepreneurs
dUISaxu3VNQ-00362-00091242-00091397 many of those folk continue to be
dUISaxu3VNQ-00363-00091398-00091553 entrepreneurs in the space of small
dUISaxu3VNQ-00364-00091554-00091912 business and as a result of that it was
dUISaxu3VNQ-00365-00091913-00092050 the employment the Department of
dUISaxu3VNQ-00366-00092051-00092326 Employment and Workforce that instituted
dUISaxu3VNQ-00367-00092327-00092561 a program to help retool the workforce
dUISaxu3VNQ-00368-00092562-00092806 in South Carolina to allow workers then
dUISaxu3VNQ-00369-00092807-00093029 to be able to come and be re-educated
dUISaxu3VNQ-00370-00093030-00093311 and retrained to be able to go and work
dUISaxu3VNQ-00371-00093312-00093473 in some of our small businesses that
dUISaxu3VNQ-00372-00093474-00093706 were left due to the pandemic and so sir
dUISaxu3VNQ-00373-00093707-00093838 I want to thank you for your leadership
dUISaxu3VNQ-00374-00093839-00094012 on that and I'm certainly looking
dUISaxu3VNQ-00375-00094013-00094175 forward to our chamber continuing to
dUISaxu3VNQ-00376-00094176-00094318 work with the Department of Employment
dUISaxu3VNQ-00377-00094319-00094511 and Workforce as we continue to move
dUISaxu3VNQ-00378-00094512-00094673 through this next phase so again I want
dUISaxu3VNQ-00379-00094674-00094799 to thank you for the opportunity today
dUISaxu3VNQ-00380-00094800-00095038 thank you
dUISaxu3VNQ-00381-00095039-00095206 I'm Davis
dUISaxu3VNQ-00382-00095207-00095375 thank you thank you governor and good
dUISaxu3VNQ-00383-00095376-00095459 morning
dUISaxu3VNQ-00384-00095460-00095723 um my name is Tom Davis I'm the state
dUISaxu3VNQ-00385-00095724-00095909 senator for district 46 which is
dUISaxu3VNQ-00386-00095910-00096191 Beaufort and Jasper counties and I serve
dUISaxu3VNQ-00387-00096192-00096382 as the chairman of the Senate labor
dUISaxu3VNQ-00388-00096383-00096587 Commerce and industry committee and so
dUISaxu3VNQ-00389-00096588-00096743 two very important things will be
dUISaxu3VNQ-00390-00096744-00096875 charged with doing in the next couple of
dUISaxu3VNQ-00391-00096876-00097150 weeks the first is confirming this
dUISaxu3VNQ-00392-00097151-00097343 excellent nominee and I say excellent
dUISaxu3VNQ-00393-00097344-00097721 advisedly It's the governor's person it
dUISaxu3VNQ-00394-00097722-00098050 is the existing director's person and it
dUISaxu3VNQ-00395-00098051-00098182 is also the person that has been
dUISaxu3VNQ-00396-00098183-00098381 screened already by a Review Committee
dUISaxu3VNQ-00397-00098382-00098662 and found qualified so and that all
dUISaxu3VNQ-00398-00098663-00098935 combined with what I know about Mr Floyd
dUISaxu3VNQ-00399-00098936-00099179 I don't want to go ahead and speak for
dUISaxu3VNQ-00400-00099180-00099323 my colleagues in the Senate but I don't
dUISaxu3VNQ-00401-00099324-00099491 see any difficulty with this whatsoever
dUISaxu3VNQ-00402-00099492-00099731 I look forward to setting confirmation
dUISaxu3VNQ-00403-00099732-00099971 hearings quickly getting it passed out
dUISaxu3VNQ-00404-00099972-00100168 of committee onto the floor and having
dUISaxu3VNQ-00405-00100169-00100506 him confirmed secondly I'd like to say
dUISaxu3VNQ-00406-00100507-00100715 comments in regard to what uh
dUISaxu3VNQ-00407-00100716-00100943 representative Sanford just said about
dUISaxu3VNQ-00408-00100944-00101212 the speaker's bill and I commend the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00409-00101213-00101476 speaker for filing this bill and that it
dUISaxu3VNQ-00410-00101477-00101717 does consolidate under the Department of
dUISaxu3VNQ-00411-00101718-00102017 Employment Workforce other aspects of
dUISaxu3VNQ-00412-00102018-00102256 employment and Workforce and that
dUISaxu3VNQ-00413-00102257-00102503 critical connectivity between our
dUISaxu3VNQ-00414-00102504-00102658 workers and the technical college system
dUISaxu3VNQ-00415-00102659-00102863 that trains our workers and the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00416-00102864-00103021 employers that then put those
dUISaxu3VNQ-00417-00103022-00103294 individuals to work so this is an
dUISaxu3VNQ-00418-00103295-00103499 incredibly important agency I think
dUISaxu3VNQ-00419-00103500-00103684 you've seen the importance and
dUISaxu3VNQ-00420-00103685-00103823 connection with the recent announcement
dUISaxu3VNQ-00421-00103824-00104225 announcement for the scalp project and
dUISaxu3VNQ-00422-00104226-00104530 and I really expect great things in the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00423-00104531-00104789 years to come and my old boss who used
dUISaxu3VNQ-00424-00104790-00104927 to be in this room and I kind of got
dUISaxu3VNQ-00425-00104928-00105125 PTSD for a little bit walking in here
dUISaxu3VNQ-00426-00105126-00105353 it's been 20 years and apparently that's
dUISaxu3VNQ-00427-00105354-00105610 not long enough but he used to talk
dUISaxu3VNQ-00428-00105611-00105857 about soil conditions and and trying to
dUISaxu3VNQ-00429-00105858-00106013 make South Carolina a place where
dUISaxu3VNQ-00430-00106014-00106223 companies wanted to come invest their
dUISaxu3VNQ-00431-00106224-00106523 Capital start business and hire workers
dUISaxu3VNQ-00432-00106524-00106793 and and it involves things like you know
dUISaxu3VNQ-00433-00106794-00107110 a good justice system good education low
dUISaxu3VNQ-00434-00107111-00107452 taxes low regulations uh good highway
dUISaxu3VNQ-00435-00107453-00107699 system good at airports good Seaport all
dUISaxu3VNQ-00436-00107700-00107897 of which we have but what governor
dUISaxu3VNQ-00437-00107898-00108113 McMaster has emphasized and I think
dUISaxu3VNQ-00438-00108114-00108407 rightly so is the role that Workforce
dUISaxu3VNQ-00439-00108408-00108569 plays in this and having a trained
dUISaxu3VNQ-00440-00108570-00108749 Workforce and a Workforce that can
dUISaxu3VNQ-00441-00108750-00108952 quickly adapt to what the employer's
dUISaxu3VNQ-00442-00108953-00109193 needs might be and I think the fact that
dUISaxu3VNQ-00443-00109194-00109390 Mr Floyd has served on the board of the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00444-00109391-00109589 technical college system you know that's
dUISaxu3VNQ-00445-00109590-00109763 important because what happens is the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00446-00109764-00110051 TCL or the college system they have a
dUISaxu3VNQ-00447-00110052-00110249 curriculum that is tailored to what our
dUISaxu3VNQ-00448-00110250-00110440 Workforce needs are and so having
dUISaxu3VNQ-00449-00110441-00110693 somebody with experience not only in the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00450-00110694-00110908 law and not only with the state agency
dUISaxu3VNQ-00451-00110909-00111143 but also in regard to that aspect of
dUISaxu3VNQ-00452-00111144-00111304 that supply chain for workers so
dUISaxu3VNQ-00453-00111305-00111508 Governor I think you've hit yet another
dUISaxu3VNQ-00454-00111509-00111773 home run here with this appointment I
dUISaxu3VNQ-00455-00111774-00111934 look forward to a swift confirmation I
dUISaxu3VNQ-00456-00111935-00112145 look forward to sending that legislation
dUISaxu3VNQ-00457-00112146-00112325 to your desk so that the Department of
dUISaxu3VNQ-00458-00112326-00112486 Employment Workforce conclude doing
dUISaxu3VNQ-00459-00112488-00112595 great things to the state of South
dUISaxu3VNQ-00460-00112596-00112847 Carolina thank you thanks senator uh one
dUISaxu3VNQ-00461-00112848-00113045 thing before we opened up for questions
dUISaxu3VNQ-00462-00113046-00113284 is y'all may have may have heard Scott
dUISaxu3VNQ-00463-00113285-00113657 Keough who is the president of of Scott
dUISaxu3VNQ-00464-00113658-00113908 Mo of scout Motors say the other day
dUISaxu3VNQ-00465-00113909-00114190 when we had a a press conference that he
dUISaxu3VNQ-00466-00114191-00114401 referred to that that ability to move
dUISaxu3VNQ-00467-00114402-00114719 quickly and decisively and uh and with
dUISaxu3VNQ-00468-00114720-00115036 strength he said that the whole process
dUISaxu3VNQ-00469-00115038-00115234 of coming to South Carolina first they
dUISaxu3VNQ-00470-00115235-00115589 had to narrow down the num the sites and
dUISaxu3VNQ-00471-00115590-00115858 they had how many 74 sites that they
dUISaxu3VNQ-00472-00115859-00116093 considered in the country and they
dUISaxu3VNQ-00473-00116094-00116308 picked South Carolina that's quite good
dUISaxu3VNQ-00474-00116309-00116554 right there but also he said while some
dUISaxu3VNQ-00475-00116555-00116789 states in relations in the past have
dUISaxu3VNQ-00476-00116790-00117071 spent spent a couple of months a 60-day
dUISaxu3VNQ-00477-00117072-00117251 shuffling papers we got the whole thing
dUISaxu3VNQ-00478-00117252-00117436 done from the beginning to end and
dUISaxu3VNQ-00479-00117438-00117628 that's because of the communication
dUISaxu3VNQ-00480-00117629-00117863 collaboration and cooperation among our
dUISaxu3VNQ-00481-00117864-00118078 people in our our state agencies but
dUISaxu3VNQ-00482-00118079-00118210 that's how we get these things done
dUISaxu3VNQ-00483-00118211-00118366 we're going to keep on doing it anyone
dUISaxu3VNQ-00484-00118367-00118601 have a question for anyone here yes sir
dUISaxu3VNQ-00485-00118602-00118913 healthy or Mr Floyd what are the major
dUISaxu3VNQ-00486-00118914-00119099 challenges or obstacles facing the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00487-00119100-00119225 department and is there anything that
dUISaxu3VNQ-00488-00119226-00119423 legislators can do to help you guys's
dUISaxu3VNQ-00489-00119424-00119639 lives be easier
dUISaxu3VNQ-00490-00119640-00119884 well the major thing to do is pass that
dUISaxu3VNQ-00491-00119885-00120239 bill it will be major for us it'll be uh
dUISaxu3VNQ-00492-00120240-00120497 it will actually install accountability
dUISaxu3VNQ-00493-00120498-00120784 into the Workforce Development Area not
dUISaxu3VNQ-00494-00120785-00120952 only for us but for the people who
dUISaxu3VNQ-00495-00120953-00121090 provide the training and that's the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00496-00121091-00121234 technical college system and the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00497-00121235-00121351 four-year
dUISaxu3VNQ-00498-00121352-00121684 systems out there so that is by far the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00499-00121685-00121889 most important thing biggest challenge
dUISaxu3VNQ-00500-00121890-00122089 we're going to have is finding people
dUISaxu3VNQ-00501-00122090-00122308 and the only way we're going to get
dUISaxu3VNQ-00502-00122309-00122501 enough people in the long run is two
dUISaxu3VNQ-00503-00122502-00122704 things people moving into the state of
dUISaxu3VNQ-00504-00122705-00122993 South Carolina which there are a lot I
dUISaxu3VNQ-00505-00122994-00123190 think we were third in the nation last
dUISaxu3VNQ-00506-00123191-00123490 year in in flow from According to the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00507-00123491-00123775 Census Bureau and sixth in the nation
dUISaxu3VNQ-00508-00123776-00124019 based not on per capita but actual
dUISaxu3VNQ-00509-00124020-00124289 number of people so huge there and the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00510-00124290-00124433 other thing is
dUISaxu3VNQ-00511-00124433-00124583 we got to have more people in the state
dUISaxu3VNQ-00512-00124583-00124847 of South Carolina that work we uh we
dUISaxu3VNQ-00513-00124848-00125057 gotta improve our labor force
dUISaxu3VNQ-00514-00125058-00125327 participation rate we got to pull people
dUISaxu3VNQ-00515-00125328-00125566 off the sidelines and get them back into
dUISaxu3VNQ-00516-00125567-00125927 the workforce uh that's a major area for
dUISaxu3VNQ-00517-00125928-00126131 us we do not have a good record there
dUISaxu3VNQ-00518-00126132-00126377 for many many reasons but we've got a
dUISaxu3VNQ-00519-00126378-00126569 program going on that is studying at
dUISaxu3VNQ-00520-00126570-00126839 heart both academic studying giving us
dUISaxu3VNQ-00521-00126840-00127210 their research uh for-profit research
dUISaxu3VNQ-00522-00127211-00127475 people who work in this area we now have
dUISaxu3VNQ-00523-00127476-00127763 their recommendations William will be
dUISaxu3VNQ-00524-00127764-00128039 working with the committee to put this
dUISaxu3VNQ-00525-00128040-00128315 into place and to execute it and when we
dUISaxu3VNQ-00526-00128316-00128543 do that we will start the progress of
dUISaxu3VNQ-00527-00128544-00128728 getting more people to go back to work
dUISaxu3VNQ-00528-00128729-00128933 in the state of South Carolina and not
dUISaxu3VNQ-00529-00128933-00129154 only will that help future employers but
dUISaxu3VNQ-00530-00129155-00129445 folks it means a billion dollars to US
dUISaxu3VNQ-00531-00129446-00129731 one percent increase in the labor force
dUISaxu3VNQ-00532-00129732-00130054 participation rate means 1.2 billion
dUISaxu3VNQ-00533-00130055-00130283 dollars in payroll and this is not used
dUISaxu3VNQ-00534-00130283-00130540 in some roll-up of seven times seven
dUISaxu3VNQ-00535-00130541-00130847 this is actual numbers so it's big for
dUISaxu3VNQ-00536-00130848-00131033 us but that's what I see is both our
dUISaxu3VNQ-00537-00131033-00131813 challenges and our opportunities
dUISaxu3VNQ-00538-00131814-00132077 well there are a lot of them who move
dUISaxu3VNQ-00539-00132078-00132251 here to retire so you got to take age
dUISaxu3VNQ-00540-00132252-00132407 into consideration you've got to reduce
dUISaxu3VNQ-00541-00132408-00132623 the age areas that you are actually
dUISaxu3VNQ-00542-00132624-00132833 looking at but once you get beyond that
dUISaxu3VNQ-00543-00132834-00133031 you got Transportation issues you've got
dUISaxu3VNQ-00544-00133032-00133175 Child Care issues you've got people
dUISaxu3VNQ-00545-00133176-00133361 living in rural areas where there aren't
dUISaxu3VNQ-00546-00133362-00133601 as many jobs all three of those are
dUISaxu3VNQ-00547-00133602-00133811 going to be big areas and by the way I
dUISaxu3VNQ-00548-00133812-00133990 will mention all three of those are also
dUISaxu3VNQ-00549-00133991-00134231 mentioned in the legislation that those
dUISaxu3VNQ-00550-00134232-00134609 are areas to be addressed how do you
dUISaxu3VNQ-00551-00134610-00134861 plan to address making the salaries
dUISaxu3VNQ-00552-00134862-00135095 competitive of the you know States in
dUISaxu3VNQ-00553-00135096-00135304 this country to attract more people to
dUISaxu3VNQ-00554-00135305-00135449 the labor force
dUISaxu3VNQ-00555-00135450-00135802 well the salaries are competitive here
dUISaxu3VNQ-00556-00135803-00136025 in the state of South Carolina I don't
dUISaxu3VNQ-00557-00136026-00136193 have the exact numbers with me but we've
dUISaxu3VNQ-00558-00136194-00136414 gone up dramatically just since the uh
dUISaxu3VNQ-00559-00136415-00136745 since the pandemic but our our wages uh
dUISaxu3VNQ-00560-00136746-00136919 here now particularly if you're talking
dUISaxu3VNQ-00561-00136920-00137081 about manufacturing our manufacturing
dUISaxu3VNQ-00562-00137082-00137254 wages here compared to our neighbors
dUISaxu3VNQ-00563-00137255-00137464 around here I can assure you we've got
dUISaxu3VNQ-00564-00137465-00137699 good wages it's not a lack the labor
dUISaxu3VNQ-00565-00137700-00137866 force task force says one of the big
dUISaxu3VNQ-00566-00137867-00138016 reasons people are not going back to
dUISaxu3VNQ-00567-00138017-00138190 work is they don't know about
dUISaxu3VNQ-00568-00138191-00138383 high-paying jobs so they're out there we
dUISaxu3VNQ-00569-00138384-00138616 got to communicate it I mean we got jobs
dUISaxu3VNQ-00570-00138617-00138797 starting at twenty dollars an hour going
dUISaxu3VNQ-00571-00138798-00138952 up to twenty eight dollars an hour
dUISaxu3VNQ-00572-00138953-00139252 there's a manufacturer in Berkeley
dUISaxu3VNQ-00573-00139253-00139528 County starting people at 28 dollars an
dUISaxu3VNQ-00574-00139529-00139745 hour starting at 28 an hour and they'll
dUISaxu3VNQ-00575-00139746-00140014 go to 35 in a year if they stay oh
dUISaxu3VNQ-00576-00140015-00140201 that's a lot of money folks for somebody
dUISaxu3VNQ-00577-00140202-00140566 who's working uh production so it's not
dUISaxu3VNQ-00578-00140567-00140740 necessarily that wages need to go up
dUISaxu3VNQ-00579-00140741-00140921 they have gone up if you talk about the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00580-00140922-00141089 service Industries retail food
dUISaxu3VNQ-00581-00141090-00141269 Hospitality hotels and that sort of
dUISaxu3VNQ-00582-00141270-00141437 thing you know there ain't any minimum
dUISaxu3VNQ-00583-00141438-00141599 wage age anymore that they're paying
dUISaxu3VNQ-00584-00141600-00141833 they're all up into the 12 to 15 an hour
dUISaxu3VNQ-00585-00141834-00142097 so wages have gone up wages have always
dUISaxu3VNQ-00586-00142098-00142331 been high in manufacturing over the past
dUISaxu3VNQ-00587-00142332-00142577 few years so money should not be a
dUISaxu3VNQ-00588-00142578-00142852 deterrent we do job fairs right now in
dUISaxu3VNQ-00589-00142853-00143075 the state of North Carolina strictly for
dUISaxu3VNQ-00590-00143076-00143321 South Carolina employers and folks they
dUISaxu3VNQ-00591-00143322-00143554 come because we got more high-paying
dUISaxu3VNQ-00592-00143555-00143764 jobs in that part right above Greenville
dUISaxu3VNQ-00593-00143765-00144023 and Spartanburg County than they do in
dUISaxu3VNQ-00594-00144024-00144197 North Carolina so I don't think wages
dUISaxu3VNQ-00595-00144198-00144401 are going to be our problem
dUISaxu3VNQ-00596-00144402-00144611 tell me how many people were uh
dUISaxu3VNQ-00597-00144612-00145204 considered for Mr Floyd's position
dUISaxu3VNQ-00598-00145205-00145769 please who can speak for the committee
dUISaxu3VNQ-00599-00145770-00146057 of course Mr Hardy's on it thank you
dUISaxu3VNQ-00600-00146058-00146375 Governor there um by law you're supposed
dUISaxu3VNQ-00601-00146376-00146687 to submit three nominees to the
dUISaxu3VNQ-00602-00146688-00146914 committee but we only have one applicant
dUISaxu3VNQ-00603-00146915-00147131 so we did a joint resolution which
dUISaxu3VNQ-00604-00147132-00147377 allowed us to go ahead and Screen Mr
dUISaxu3VNQ-00605-00147378-00147521 Floyd so we didn't have to go through
dUISaxu3VNQ-00606-00147522-00147947 that whole process again
dUISaxu3VNQ-00607-00147948-00148704 thank you more questions
dUISaxu3VNQ-00608-00148705-00149593 thank you thank you gentlemen nice job
dUISaxu3VNQ-00609-00149594-00149831 appreciate it wow we've been trying to
dUISaxu3VNQ-00610-00149832-00150050 get together
dVpHuvU2DJE-00000-00000042-00000353 all I'm saying is these professors this
dVpHuvU2DJE-00001-00000354-00001061 semester not playing
dVpHuvU2DJE-00002-00001062-00002098 the ffr right like come on Michigan
dVpHuvU2DJE-00003-00002099-00002795 [Music]
dVpHuvU2DJE-00005-00006007-00006658 thank you
dVpHuvU2DJE-00006-00006659-00008630 [Music]
dVpHuvU2DJE-00007-00008631-00009827 [Music]
dVpHuvU2DJE-00008-00009828-00010060 foreign
dVpHuvU2DJE-00009-00010061-00010505 [Music]
dVpHuvU2DJE-00010-00010506-00010883 good evening guys as you can see it is
dVpHuvU2DJE-00011-00010884-00011278 very very much later in the day
dVpHuvU2DJE-00012-00011279-00011887 um
dVpHuvU2DJE-00013-00011888-00012299 it's because I'm on this tripod I didn't
dVpHuvU2DJE-00014-00012300-00012569 take it off from earlier but after I
dVpHuvU2DJE-00015-00012570-00012827 busy I
dVpHuvU2DJE-00016-00012828-00013102 finish putting up some clothes as well
dVpHuvU2DJE-00017-00013103-00013415 as pour some outfits to get ready
dVpHuvU2DJE-00018-00013416-00013630 for next week
dVpHuvU2DJE-00019-00013631-00013858 um and this video I need to do tomorrow
dVpHuvU2DJE-00020-00013859-00014027 morning
dVpHuvU2DJE-00021-00014028-00014416 but I am fresh out the shower
dVpHuvU2DJE-00022-00014418-00014830 face wash I am exfoliating and
dVpHuvU2DJE-00023-00014831-00014999 moisturized
dVpHuvU2DJE-00024-00015000-00015233 and then I have on the
dVpHuvU2DJE-00025-00015234-00015527 Savage Xfinity set I'm not sure on my
dVpHuvU2DJE-00026-00015528-00015869 bottoms because
dVpHuvU2DJE-00027-00015869-00016007 um
dVpHuvU2DJE-00028-00016008-00016313 about to make me
dVpHuvU2DJE-00029-00016313-00016667 some corpse corporate water and then
dVpHuvU2DJE-00030-00016668-00017080 it's like my arms
dVpHuvU2DJE-00031-00017081-00017225 and
dVpHuvU2DJE-00032-00017226-00017500 I need to take them I took one
dVpHuvU2DJE-00033-00017501-00017729 this morning
dVpHuvU2DJE-00034-00017730-00017897 overnight
dVpHuvU2DJE-00035-00017898-00018413 oil so
dVpHuvU2DJE-00036-00018414-00018719 hopefully I don't
dVpHuvU2DJE-00037-00018720-00019235 get sick or like feel bad
dVpHuvU2DJE-00038-00019236-00019453 foreign
dVpHuvU2DJE-00039-00019454-00019780 but I'm tired it's 10 o'clock I'm
dVpHuvU2DJE-00040-00019781-00019889 probably about to try to watch
dVpHuvU2DJE-00041-00019890-00020063 kaleidoscope
dVpHuvU2DJE-00042-00020064-00020585 probably like one more episode
dVpHuvU2DJE-00043-00020586-00020944 no I'm not gonna do that I'm gonna read
dVpHuvU2DJE-00044-00020945-00021214 a chapter of my book for the month which
dVpHuvU2DJE-00045-00021215-00021539 is Agent U by Colin
dVpHuvU2DJE-00046-00021540-00021827 I made it a hobby of mine to read
dVpHuvU2DJE-00047-00021828-00022144 outside of me reading first school so
dVpHuvU2DJE-00048-00022145-00022300 I'm gonna do that
dVpHuvU2DJE-00049-00022301-00022444 um before I go to bed
dVpHuvU2DJE-00050-00022445-00022672 oh
dVpHuvU2DJE-00051-00022673-00022889 I need to go to bed so that I can get up
dVpHuvU2DJE-00052-00022890-00023033 early
dVpHuvU2DJE-00053-00023034-00023278 or get up at a decent time so I need to
dVpHuvU2DJE-00054-00023279-00023758 go to bed
dVpHuvU2DJE-00055-00023759-00024058 to get my school schedule because lately
dVpHuvU2DJE-00056-00024059-00024239 I've been going to sleep in life
dVpHuvU2DJE-00057-00024240-00024383 four or five o'clock in the morning
dVpHuvU2DJE-00058-00024384-00024911 waking up at nine o'clock and then on
dVpHuvU2DJE-00059-00024912-00025241 go I cannot do that and I don't know how
dVpHuvU2DJE-00060-00025242-00025444 I'm functioning right now I have not
dVpHuvU2DJE-00061-00025445-00025762 took a nap I don't know I I haven't had
dVpHuvU2DJE-00062-00025763-00025870 a coffee
dVpHuvU2DJE-00063-00025872-00026046 Saints
dVpHuvU2DJE-00064-00026047-00026873 finals so
dVpHuvU2DJE-00065-00026874-00026982 probably
dVpHuvU2DJE-00066-00026983-00029068 [Music]
dVpHuvU2DJE-00067-00029069-00029524 okay see I'm about to wind down
dVpHuvU2DJE-00068-00029525-00029917 um and I will talk to you guys
dVpHuvU2DJE-00069-00029918-00030317 hey y'all so it is the next day
dVpHuvU2DJE-00070-00030318-00030749 and I just ate breakfast just walked the
dVpHuvU2DJE-00071-00030750-00030874 dogs
dVpHuvU2DJE-00072-00030875-00030995 um so I'm sitting here watching First
dVpHuvU2DJE-00073-00030995-00031324 Take and I'm about to look at
dVpHuvU2DJE-00074-00031325-00031655 this negotiations sheet that I need to
dVpHuvU2DJE-00075-00031656-00031931 look over before this
dVpHuvU2DJE-00076-00031932-00032290 um
dVpHuvU2DJE-00077-00032291-00032596 Leadership Academy tomorrow uh the
dVpHuvU2DJE-00078-00032597-00032873 networking slash animal reception is
dVpHuvU2DJE-00079-00032874-00033107 tonight so I'll just pick up my outfit
dVpHuvU2DJE-00080-00033108-00033305 that I'm going to wear
dVpHuvU2DJE-00081-00033306-00033485 um so I'm done with that
dVpHuvU2DJE-00082-00033486-00033671 I
dVpHuvU2DJE-00083-00033672-00033899 need to look over that I need to start
dVpHuvU2DJE-00084-00033900-00034073 on my
dVpHuvU2DJE-00085-00034074-00034474 the notion template that I um that I
dVpHuvU2DJE-00086-00034475-00034589 found
dVpHuvU2DJE-00087-00034590-00034912 and finish organizing my fold these
dVpHuvU2DJE-00088-00034913-00035231 closet on my bed
dVpHuvU2DJE-00089-00035232-00035459 so yeah I had a late start today I woke
dVpHuvU2DJE-00090-00035460-00035627 up at like 12.
dVpHuvU2DJE-00091-00035628-00036001 so it is 1 45 now
dVpHuvU2DJE-00092-00036002-00037265 the networking event starts at
dVpHuvU2DJE-00093-00037266-00037511 that could be a fantasy I could tell you
dVpHuvU2DJE-00094-00037512-00038065 got beat energy
dVpHuvU2DJE-00095-00038066-00039551 [Music]
dVpHuvU2DJE-00096-00039552-00039989 we are about to finish up my planner I'm
dVpHuvU2DJE-00097-00039990-00040330 a planner my vision board
dVpHuvU2DJE-00098-00040331-00040462 um
dVpHuvU2DJE-00099-00040463-00040762 one of my best friends she found the
dVpHuvU2DJE-00100-00040763-00041165 template on Tick Tock and I I'm gonna
dVpHuvU2DJE-00101-00041166-00041374 link down the Creator and put it down
dVpHuvU2DJE-00102-00041375-00041585 here once I find it who the Creator is
dVpHuvU2DJE-00103-00041586-00041977 who made the template but it um but
dVpHuvU2DJE-00104-00041978-00042305 anywho it is
dVpHuvU2DJE-00105-00042306-00042568 this 2023 vision board I'm doing it on
dVpHuvU2DJE-00106-00042569-00042724 canva
dVpHuvU2DJE-00107-00042725-00043109 um and she has it breaking down by like
dVpHuvU2DJE-00108-00043110-00043349 who do you want to be what do you want
dVpHuvU2DJE-00109-00043350-00043609 to do for your mind your body your style
dVpHuvU2DJE-00110-00043610-00043812 your soul
dVpHuvU2DJE-00111-00043813-00044290 love career boundaries finances content
dVpHuvU2DJE-00112-00044291-00044452 get it done
dVpHuvU2DJE-00113-00044453-00044752 the characteristics the aesthetic and a
dVpHuvU2DJE-00114-00044753-00044962 love letter from me to me
dVpHuvU2DJE-00115-00044963-00045401 so so far I've done everything up to the
dVpHuvU2DJE-00116-00045402-00045557 style
dVpHuvU2DJE-00117-00045558-00045665 um
dVpHuvU2DJE-00118-00045666-00045887 I have to finish everything else to
dVpHuvU2DJE-00119-00045888-00046265 solve the love the career the business I
dVpHuvU2DJE-00120-00046266-00046415 added the business
dVpHuvU2DJE-00121-00046416-00046793 um for my business that I am watching
dVpHuvU2DJE-00122-00046794-00047008 this year
dVpHuvU2DJE-00123-00047009-00047290 um I'm tired of putting it off
dVpHuvU2DJE-00124-00047291-00047530 my boundaries
dVpHuvU2DJE-00125-00047531-00047921 um my finances content and my top eight
dVpHuvU2DJE-00126-00047922-00048352 goals my characteristics
dVpHuvU2DJE-00127-00048353-00048580 um and then my aesthetic and so I'm
dVpHuvU2DJE-00128-00048581-00048767 going to break my acidic down by each
dVpHuvU2DJE-00129-00048768-00049067 goal that I have so like what I want to
dVpHuvU2DJE-00130-00049068-00049277 do
dVpHuvU2DJE-00131-00049278-00049468 um to achieve these goals and then I
dVpHuvU2DJE-00132-00049469-00049793 have to write my letter from me to me so
dVpHuvU2DJE-00133-00049794-00050062 so far I wrote In what I want to do for
dVpHuvU2DJE-00134-00050063-00050207 my soul
dVpHuvU2DJE-00135-00050208-00050435 um so now I'm gonna go find a picture on
dVpHuvU2DJE-00136-00050436-00050777 Pinterest to match that
dVpHuvU2DJE-00137-00050778-00050890 um
dVpHuvU2DJE-00138-00050891-00051173 and then for the rest of the stuff I'm
dVpHuvU2DJE-00139-00051174-00051311 gonna have to like sit here and write it
dVpHuvU2DJE-00140-00051312-00051569 down like what I want and then type it
dVpHuvU2DJE-00141-00051570-00051749 into you so that
dVpHuvU2DJE-00142-00051750-00051976 um I could be able to translate it so
dVpHuvU2DJE-00143-00051977-00052199 we're just gonna do that
dVpHuvU2DJE-00144-00052200-00052319 um
dVpHuvU2DJE-00145-00052320-00052571 I also want to try to do my notion
dVpHuvU2DJE-00146-00052572-00052744 template the notion template that I
dVpHuvU2DJE-00147-00052745-00052816 found
dVpHuvU2DJE-00148-00052817-00053159 but I still only have one class up today
dVpHuvU2DJE-00149-00053160-00053411 Saturday tomorrow Sunday you start
dVpHuvU2DJE-00150-00053412-00053803 classes Monday
dVpHuvU2DJE-00151-00053804-00053999 exactly
dVpHuvU2DJE-00152-00054000-00054250 um
dVpHuvU2DJE-00153-00054251-00054388 so yeah
dVpHuvU2DJE-00154-00054389-00054911 I only have one class one syllabus
dVpHuvU2DJE-00155-00054912-00055216 and classes start in like three days
dVpHuvU2DJE-00156-00055217-00055397 so
dVpHuvU2DJE-00157-00055398-00055673 yeah I hope I do everything else within
dVpHuvU2DJE-00158-00055674-00055792 the template
dVpHuvU2DJE-00159-00055794-00055942 um and I'll show y'all that once we get
dVpHuvU2DJE-00160-00055944-00056075 to it
dVpHuvU2DJE-00161-00056076-00056429 but today is me getting my life together
dVpHuvU2DJE-00162-00056429-00056554 um
dVpHuvU2DJE-00163-00056555-00056842 doing as much as I can today so that
dVpHuvU2DJE-00164-00056844-00057100 tomorrow
dVpHuvU2DJE-00165-00057101-00057335 whenever these other teachers decide to
dVpHuvU2DJE-00166-00057336-00057587 post
dVpHuvU2DJE-00167-00057588-00057971 their courses then we could come on
dVpHuvU2DJE-00168-00057972-00058180 Focus strictly tomorrow on just reading
dVpHuvU2DJE-00169-00058182-00058480 and getting ahead and getting you know
dVpHuvU2DJE-00170-00058482-00058847 the ball rolling so
dVpHuvU2DJE-00171-00058848-00059182 let's go ahead and
dVpHuvU2DJE-00172-00059183-00059380 it's a vision board well finish this
dVpHuvU2DJE-00173-00059382-00059650 vision board
dVpHuvU2DJE-00174-00059651-00060047 okay so here is my completed vision
dVpHuvU2DJE-00175-00060048-00060179 board
dVpHuvU2DJE-00176-00060179-00060244 um
dVpHuvU2DJE-00177-00060245-00060616 I have all the pictures of
dVpHuvU2DJE-00178-00060617-00060850 things that I want to become a reality
dVpHuvU2DJE-00179-00060851-00061103 this year
dVpHuvU2DJE-00180-00061104-00061300 and then we'll get into the table of
dVpHuvU2DJE-00181-00061301-00061492 contents
dVpHuvU2DJE-00182-00061494-00061775 here it's me I got my name my color of
dVpHuvU2DJE-00183-00061776-00062099 the year the style I would like
dVpHuvU2DJE-00184-00062100-00062435 the word of the year which is hustle
dVpHuvU2DJE-00185-00062436-00062909 then we have my nails that I would like
dVpHuvU2DJE-00186-00062910-00063179 um my affirmation for the year as well
dVpHuvU2DJE-00187-00063179-00063353 as my hobby for the year which is
dVpHuvU2DJE-00188-00063354-00063454 reading
dVpHuvU2DJE-00189-00063455-00063713 so of course
dVpHuvU2DJE-00190-00063714-00063935 um the content these are my content
dVpHuvU2DJE-00191-00063936-00064138 goals
dVpHuvU2DJE-00192-00064139-00064253 um
dVpHuvU2DJE-00193-00064254-00064529 and then you know the pictures to match
dVpHuvU2DJE-00194-00064529-00064792 that mood
dVpHuvU2DJE-00195-00064794-00065092 my top eight goals so connecting Growing
dVpHuvU2DJE-00196-00065094-00065326 With God content creation loving me
dVpHuvU2DJE-00197-00065327-00065626 finding my true love obtaining a summer
dVpHuvU2DJE-00198-00065627-00065743 job
dVpHuvU2DJE-00199-00065744-00066094 survive and Crush my second semester due
dVpHuvU2DJE-00200-00066095-00066376 to our Organics and becoming a better me
dVpHuvU2DJE-00201-00066377-00066653 a letter to me I'm not going to show
dVpHuvU2DJE-00202-00066654-00067000 y'all that but I wrote myself a letter
dVpHuvU2DJE-00203-00067001-00067276 um so that I can look back on
dVpHuvU2DJE-00204-00067277-00067541 throughout the year okay y'all so it is
dVpHuvU2DJE-00205-00067542-00067913 very very much later at night
dVpHuvU2DJE-00206-00067914-00068356 um it's 8 34. I'm about to head out to
dVpHuvU2DJE-00207-00068357-00068687 Walk-Ons which is a sports bar so that
dVpHuvU2DJE-00208-00068688-00068963 with Jaden Jordan I'm gonna go watch the
dVpHuvU2DJE-00209-00068964-00069100 fight
dVpHuvU2DJE-00210-00069101-00069437 um yeah as you can see my hair is also
dVpHuvU2DJE-00211-00069438-00069653 Twisted so I just had to throw his head
dVpHuvU2DJE-00212-00069654-00070031 on having a sweatshirt jeans tennis
dVpHuvU2DJE-00213-00070032-00070288 shoes real chill
dVpHuvU2DJE-00214-00070289-00070613 um so yeah did I do everything that I
dVpHuvU2DJE-00215-00070614-00070847 was supposed to do today no
dVpHuvU2DJE-00216-00070848-00071093 but it's okay
dVpHuvU2DJE-00217-00071094-00071321 it's all right I'll
dVpHuvU2DJE-00218-00071322-00071429 um
dVpHuvU2DJE-00219-00071430-00071711 just be doing it tomorrow like getting
dVpHuvU2DJE-00220-00071712-00071867 my clothes together
dVpHuvU2DJE-00221-00071868-00072106 still only have one class up so it must
dVpHuvU2DJE-00222-00072107-00072413 be so this week this week
dVpHuvU2DJE-00223-00072414-00072599 um so yeah
dVpHuvU2DJE-00224-00072600-00074399 let's go watch
dVpHuvU2DJE-00225-00074400-00075725 tonight
dVpHuvU2DJE-00226-00075726-00076073 good morning guys it is Monday January
dVpHuvU2DJE-00227-00076074-00076187 9th
dVpHuvU2DJE-00228-00076188-00076511 at the start of semester two
dVpHuvU2DJE-00229-00076512-00076726 um
dVpHuvU2DJE-00230-00076727-00077075 I got up at like 5 30. gloves up at five
dVpHuvU2DJE-00231-00077076-00077356 but I got up to bed at like 5 30.
dVpHuvU2DJE-00232-00077357-00077662 um got myself together did my morning
dVpHuvU2DJE-00233-00077663-00077969 routine and then took the doggies out
dVpHuvU2DJE-00234-00077970-00078149 for their walk
dVpHuvU2DJE-00235-00078150-00078323 um it is now seven o'clock
dVpHuvU2DJE-00236-00078324-00078538 I am finishing up my breakfast which
dVpHuvU2DJE-00237-00078539-00078797 consists of oatmeal and coffee
dVpHuvU2DJE-00238-00078798-00078899 um
dVpHuvU2DJE-00239-00078900-00079217 yeah I know the only way that I can
dVpHuvU2DJE-00240-00079218-00079553 function in classes of coffee so we're
dVpHuvU2DJE-00241-00079554-00079793 doing that um I like how my twist out
dVpHuvU2DJE-00242-00079794-00080203 came out I stretched The Twist this time
dVpHuvU2DJE-00243-00080204-00080494 so yeah if y'all want me to do a
dVpHuvU2DJE-00244-00080495-00080747 tutorial on it comment down below
dVpHuvU2DJE-00245-00080748-00080962 but we're about to get dressed because I
dVpHuvU2DJE-00246-00080963-00081173 need to stop and get gas and start
dVpHuvU2DJE-00247-00081174-00081376 heading out
dVpHuvU2DJE-00248-00081377-00081491 um
dVpHuvU2DJE-00249-00081492-00081653 so yeah we're just about to go ahead and
dVpHuvU2DJE-00250-00081654-00081911 get yours just get dressed with me about
dVpHuvU2DJE-00251-00081912-00082091 the prop y'all up
dVpHuvU2DJE-00252-00082092-00082456 I'm gonna get dressed and get ready
dVpHuvU2DJE-00253-00082457-00082876 I've been living like I graduated so
dVpHuvU2DJE-00254-00082877-00083105 we're gonna see
dVpHuvU2DJE-00255-00083106-00083326 um I still only have one class
dVpHuvU2DJE-00256-00083327-00083573 that is up right now
dVpHuvU2DJE-00257-00083574-00083873 so yeah like these teachers would not
dVpHuvU2DJE-00258-00083874-00084076 start asking about you know readings
dVpHuvU2DJE-00259-00084077-00084376 y'all but not going to my presentation
dVpHuvU2DJE-00260-00084377-00084623 let's just go over the syllabus and do
dVpHuvU2DJE-00261-00084624-00084905 introductions today like
dVpHuvU2DJE-00262-00084906-00085200 because what what do you expect me to do
dVpHuvU2DJE-00263-00085201-00085465 let's just be for real here
dVpHuvU2DJE-00264-00085466-00085835 bffr like come on now okay wait I need
dVpHuvU2DJE-00265-00085836-00086044 to stop talking and start getting ready
dVpHuvU2DJE-00266-00086045-00086315 so that I can leave and have a parking
dVpHuvU2DJE-00267-00086316-00086579 spot because if you know you know but
dVpHuvU2DJE-00268-00086580-00086723 let's go
dVpHuvU2DJE-00269-00086724-00086999 so this is gonna be my feet
dVpHuvU2DJE-00270-00087000-00087203 for today
dVpHuvU2DJE-00271-00087204-00087443 um and then this is the scent
dVpHuvU2DJE-00272-00087444-00088750 this is my scent for today
dVpHuvU2DJE-00273-00088751-00090053 and I wore something similar yeah
dVpHuvU2DJE-00274-00090054-00090323 making Clays and we're gonna have a
dVpHuvU2DJE-00275-00090324-00090473 recap
dVpHuvU2DJE-00276-00090474-00090659 more than likely I'm gonna have reading
dVpHuvU2DJE-00277-00090660-00091079 sitting for Wednesday so
dVpHuvU2DJE-00278-00091080-00091282 Okay so
dVpHuvU2DJE-00279-00091283-00091541 it is
dVpHuvU2DJE-00280-00091542-00091709 Thursday
dVpHuvU2DJE-00281-00091710-00092038 um today is my long day so I will be in
dVpHuvU2DJE-00282-00092039-00092182 class from
dVpHuvU2DJE-00283-00092183-00092362 11
dVpHuvU2DJE-00284-00092363-00092650 2 3 40.
dVpHuvU2DJE-00285-00092651-00092729 um
dVpHuvU2DJE-00286-00092730-00093035 I still have three classes today but my
dVpHuvU2DJE-00287-00093036-00093275 property class is a four hour credit
dVpHuvU2DJE-00288-00093276-00093767 class so it is from 2 to 3 40.
dVpHuvU2DJE-00289-00093768-00093899 and yeah
dVpHuvU2DJE-00290-00093900-00094012 um
dVpHuvU2DJE-00291-00094013-00094367 I need to straighten up a bit because my
dVpHuvU2DJE-00292-00094368-00094655 mom is coming down this weekend
dVpHuvU2DJE-00293-00094656-00094738 um
dVpHuvU2DJE-00294-00094739-00095117 or honestly she just got them
dVpHuvU2DJE-00295-00095118-00095326 I'm busy
dVpHuvU2DJE-00296-00095327-00095512 um for me like you want to eat please
dVpHuvU2DJE-00297-00095513-00095717 not gonna happen
dVpHuvU2DJE-00298-00095718-00095932 that's what you get for no I'm just
dVpHuvU2DJE-00299-00095933-00096053 playing
dVpHuvU2DJE-00300-00096054-00096317 um but yeah I just have one
dVpHuvU2DJE-00301-00096318-00096725 this sweatshirt from she and
dVpHuvU2DJE-00302-00096726-00096917 camo
dVpHuvU2DJE-00303-00096918-00097187 camo pants I'm not one of these Crocs um
dVpHuvU2DJE-00304-00097188-00097409 I'm wearing my dunks so yeah because we
dVpHuvU2DJE-00305-00097410-00097600 have a long day I like to be comfortable
dVpHuvU2DJE-00306-00097601-00097859 on the long days so
dVpHuvU2DJE-00307-00097860-00098038 I am
dVpHuvU2DJE-00308-00098039-00098350 um baggy pants sweatshirt you can't go
dVpHuvU2DJE-00309-00098351-00098453 wrong
dVpHuvU2DJE-00310-00098454-00098573 um
dVpHuvU2DJE-00311-00098574-00098897 yeah
dVpHuvU2DJE-00312-00098898-00099209 all I'm saying is these professors this
dVpHuvU2DJE-00313-00099210-00099431 semester not playing
dVpHuvU2DJE-00314-00099432-00099676 not playing at all they hitting the
dVpHuvU2DJE-00315-00099677-00100024 ground running day one okay follow my
dVpHuvU2DJE-00316-00100025-00100211 first day out here
dVpHuvU2DJE-00317-00100212-00100553 um
dVpHuvU2DJE-00318-00100554-00100787 our property class
dVpHuvU2DJE-00319-00100788-00101015 she don't want laptops we got a
dVpHuvU2DJE-00320-00101016-00101429 handwriter notes
dVpHuvU2DJE-00321-00101430-00101597 yeah
dVpHuvU2DJE-00322-00101598-00101806 that's how we're moving
dVpHuvU2DJE-00323-00101807-00101932 um but
dVpHuvU2DJE-00324-00101933-00102226 honestly I like it I like that I have
dVpHuvU2DJE-00325-00102227-00102449 professors that aren't so and I wouldn't
dVpHuvU2DJE-00326-00102450-00102628 say like my professors last year were
dVpHuvU2DJE-00327-00102629-00102910 last well most of them were not
dVpHuvU2DJE-00328-00102911-00103186 um but this semester
dVpHuvU2DJE-00329-00103188-00103384 it's giving me the extra motivation and
dVpHuvU2DJE-00330-00103385-00103625 extra push that I need
dVpHuvU2DJE-00331-00103626-00103936 um to keep continue to
dVpHuvU2DJE-00332-00103938-00104206 work hard and
dVpHuvU2DJE-00333-00104207-00104489 do as do my best
dVpHuvU2DJE-00334-00104490-00104716 um do better than my best
dVpHuvU2DJE-00335-00104717-00104890 um so yeah
dVpHuvU2DJE-00336-00104891-00105119 my doggies are asleep I took them out
dVpHuvU2DJE-00337-00105120-00105215 this morning
dVpHuvU2DJE-00338-00105216-00105401 it's 8 41
dVpHuvU2DJE-00339-00105402-00105604 um so since my legal writing class is on
dVpHuvU2DJE-00340-00105605-00105725 Zoom today
dVpHuvU2DJE-00341-00105726-00105977 probably gonna head over to campus so
dVpHuvU2DJE-00342-00105978-00106360 that I can get a room in the library to
dVpHuvU2DJE-00343-00106361-00106721 get some work done before so
dVpHuvU2DJE-00344-00106722-00106954 um and then during the break
dVpHuvU2DJE-00345-00106955-00107278 uh do whatever I couldn't finish
dVpHuvU2DJE-00346-00107279-00107501 um I have to leave work tomorrow for
dVpHuvU2DJE-00347-00107502-00107693 contracts I need to finish that reading
dVpHuvU2DJE-00348-00107694-00107945 that I was supposed to finish last night
dVpHuvU2DJE-00349-00107946-00108113 um
dVpHuvU2DJE-00350-00108114-00108443 and my case brief for torts so
dVpHuvU2DJE-00351-00108444-00108599 yeah
dVpHuvU2DJE-00352-00108600-00108827 um I'm really trying to build my head my
dVpHuvU2DJE-00353-00108828-00109199 head build my routine so that it's no
dVpHuvU2DJE-00354-00109200-00109523 longer a routine it's a habit so that's
dVpHuvU2DJE-00355-00109524-00109984 it um yeah my mom is bringing sage and
dVpHuvU2DJE-00356-00109985-00110207 JoJo as well
dVpHuvU2DJE-00357-00110208-00110507 um I don't plan on going to
dVpHuvU2DJE-00358-00110508-00110843 Sage's birthday party because it's just
dVpHuvU2DJE-00359-00110844-00111197 really not in a schedule like I'm really
dVpHuvU2DJE-00360-00111198-00111454 trying to stick to my schedule and
dVpHuvU2DJE-00361-00111455-00111773 you know travel less than I did last
dVpHuvU2DJE-00362-00111774-00111904 semester
dVpHuvU2DJE-00363-00111905-00112073 um so yeah
dVpHuvU2DJE-00364-00112074-00112208 yeah that's that
dVpHuvU2DJE-00365-00112209-00112265 [Music]
dVpHuvU2DJE-00366-00112266-00112336 um
dVpHuvU2DJE-00367-00112338-00112625 so they will be here too tonight I still
dVpHuvU2DJE-00368-00112626-00112745 have class tomorrow
dVpHuvU2DJE-00369-00112746-00113051 so they'll probably be hanging out
dVpHuvU2DJE-00370-00113052-00113158 um
dVpHuvU2DJE-00371-00113159-00113410 and then whatever we do after class
dVpHuvU2DJE-00372-00113411-00113639 that's that Tuesdays and I mean
dVpHuvU2DJE-00373-00113640-00113915 Thursdays and Fridays
dVpHuvU2DJE-00374-00113916-00114245 um I have set as my like review days or
dVpHuvU2DJE-00375-00114246-00114377 you know
dVpHuvU2DJE-00376-00114378-00114557 if I
dVpHuvU2DJE-00377-00114558-00114778 right now I really don't have much to
dVpHuvU2DJE-00378-00114779-00114875 review
dVpHuvU2DJE-00379-00114876-00115139 um so
dVpHuvU2DJE-00380-00115140-00115325 one of these days is gonna be like my
dVpHuvU2DJE-00381-00115326-00115486 off day
dVpHuvU2DJE-00382-00115488-00115804 um we don't have class Mondays so
dVpHuvU2DJE-00383-00115805-00116051 I can use that whole day to prepare to
dVpHuvU2DJE-00384-00116052-00116339 prepare for my Wednesday classes
dVpHuvU2DJE-00385-00116340-00116471 um I'm always trying to stay two days
dVpHuvU2DJE-00386-00116472-00116627 ahead
dVpHuvU2DJE-00387-00116628-00116728 um
dVpHuvU2DJE-00388-00116729-00116945 so yeah
dVpHuvU2DJE-00389-00116946-00117149 I need to make my coffee I need to
dVpHuvU2DJE-00390-00117150-00117304 figure out what I'm gonna eat force
dVpHuvU2DJE-00391-00117305-00117460 myself to eat
dVpHuvU2DJE-00392-00117461-00117802 um
dVpHuvU2DJE-00393-00117803-00117971 I just came here to chat with y'all
dVpHuvU2DJE-00394-00117972-00118097 because I just feel like I haven't
dVpHuvU2DJE-00395-00118098-00118421 really been able to just like chat
dVpHuvU2DJE-00396-00118422-00118540 um
dVpHuvU2DJE-00397-00118541-00118786 to chat with y'all um but I probably
dVpHuvU2DJE-00398-00118788-00119086 plan on doing like a week recap
dVpHuvU2DJE-00399-00119088-00119302 um Sunday
dVpHuvU2DJE-00400-00119303-00119452 uh
dVpHuvU2DJE-00401-00119453-00119675 yeah on like
dVpHuvU2DJE-00402-00119676-00119963 how I feel after the first week
dVpHuvU2DJE-00403-00119964-00120058 um back
dVpHuvU2DJE-00404-00120059-00120634 all of that so
dVpHuvU2DJE-00405-00120635-00121097 and to clean out this fridge
dVpHuvU2DJE-00406-00121098-00121427 yeah let me just go ahead and um do what
dVpHuvU2DJE-00407-00121428-00121697 I can before I head over to campus and
dVpHuvU2DJE-00408-00121698-00121834 then I will just
dVpHuvU2DJE-00409-00121835-00121936 um
dVpHuvU2DJE-00410-00121938-00122489 challenge all
dVpHuvU2DJE-00411-00122490-00123178 we'll come back when my mom never
dVpHuvU2DJE-00412-00123179-00123403 get here
dVUT5j0woWI-00000-00000125-00000358 [Music]
dVUT5j0woWI-00001-00000359-00000697 [Applause]
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dVUT5j0woWI-00004-00001278-00001487 do in Jewish life
dVUT5j0woWI-00005-00001488-00001684 so many of our practices can feel like
dVUT5j0woWI-00006-00001685-00001948 they're just there we do them but we're
dVUT5j0woWI-00007-00001950-00002165 not connected to them we don't feel
dVUT5j0woWI-00008-00002166-00002291 their meaning
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dVUT5j0woWI-00017-00003942-00004145 and today we're talking about kastras
dVUT5j0woWI-00018-00004146-00004409 the laws of kosher we have so many laws
dVUT5j0woWI-00019-00004410-00004595 that govern what we can and can't eat
dVUT5j0woWI-00020-00004596-00004799 and how we eat and how we prepare our
dVUT5j0woWI-00021-00004800-00005104 food rabbis can spend as much as a third
dVUT5j0woWI-00022-00005105-00005302 to a half of the rabbinic training on
dVUT5j0woWI-00023-00005303-00005627 cosris because there are so many laws
dVUT5j0woWI-00024-00005628-00005867 and these laws they make a big impact on
dVUT5j0woWI-00025-00005868-00006131 our lives where we shop where we eat
dVUT5j0woWI-00026-00006132-00006365 even what our homes look like with
dVUT5j0woWI-00027-00006366-00006575 conscious having that kind of impact it
dVUT5j0woWI-00028-00006576-00006731 would sure be nice to know the reason
dVUT5j0woWI-00029-00006731-00006995 for going to such lengths you know the
dVUT5j0woWI-00030-00006995-00007228 why behind it all so in this series
dVUT5j0woWI-00031-00007229-00007391 we're going to talk about many of these
dVUT5j0woWI-00032-00007392-00007642 laws like kosher and non-kosher animals
dVUT5j0woWI-00033-00007643-00007846 is there a Rhyme or Reason behind which
dVUT5j0woWI-00034-00007847-00007978 animals we're allowed to eat and which
dVUT5j0woWI-00035-00007979-00008267 we aren't or is it all random cow's good
dVUT5j0woWI-00036-00008268-00008464 Pig's bad we're also going to talk about
dVUT5j0woWI-00037-00008465-00008674 cheeseburgers why is there a Prohibition
dVUT5j0woWI-00038-00008675-00008849 against eating milk and meat together
dVUT5j0woWI-00039-00008850-00009071 and we're going to talk about kosher
dVUT5j0woWI-00040-00009072-00009274 Slaughter and the laws of kisoidam or
dVUT5j0woWI-00041-00009275-00009478 covering blood with earth that is a part
dVUT5j0woWI-00042-00009479-00009683 of kosher ritual Slaughter in this
dVUT5j0woWI-00043-00009684-00009814 episode you'll be hearing me talk with
dVUT5j0woWI-00044-00009815-00010024 my colleague Beth Lesh a scholar here at
dVUT5j0woWI-00045-00010025-00010271 Olive beta we got deep into the meaning
dVUT5j0woWI-00046-00010272-00010414 behind some of the most essential
dVUT5j0woWI-00047-00010415-00010619 elements of cautious but the first thing
dVUT5j0woWI-00048-00010620-00010846 we talked about was why this topic was
dVUT5j0woWI-00049-00010847-00011081 so important and I want to start there
dVUT5j0woWI-00050-00011082-00011321 Beth and I take inventory of some of the
dVUT5j0woWI-00051-00011322-00011506 things we find Difficult about kashras
dVUT5j0woWI-00052-00011507-00012256 on a few levels here's me and Beth
dVUT5j0woWI-00053-00012257-00012424 I'm thinking about myself I'm thinking
dVUT5j0woWI-00054-00012425-00012670 about about my friends
dVUT5j0woWI-00055-00012671-00012943 um and I think there's just a lot of
dVUT5j0woWI-00056-00012944-00013301 social friction that comes up having to
dVUT5j0woWI-00057-00013302-00013535 do with costume for anyone who is
dVUT5j0woWI-00058-00013536-00013811 spending any time at all personally or
dVUT5j0woWI-00059-00013812-00013930 professionally with people who don't
dVUT5j0woWI-00060-00013931-00014153 keep kosher so it's like there's like so
dVUT5j0woWI-00061-00014154-00014411 much planning that you have to do and
dVUT5j0woWI-00062-00014412-00014566 you're not eating in people's houses and
dVUT5j0woWI-00063-00014568-00014699 you're going to a work conference and
dVUT5j0woWI-00064-00014700-00014866 you're like requesting a special meal or
dVUT5j0woWI-00065-00014868-00015029 you're eating a banana out of your bag
dVUT5j0woWI-00066-00015030-00015280 yeah totally and I think it's kind of
dVUT5j0woWI-00067-00015281-00015436 interesting that you just jump to like
dVUT5j0woWI-00068-00015437-00015622 the way kashras can complicate our lives
dVUT5j0woWI-00069-00015623-00015772 when we're with people who don't keep
dVUT5j0woWI-00070-00015773-00016043 kosher as though there's no imposition
dVUT5j0woWI-00071-00016044-00016199 on our lives or anything at all
dVUT5j0woWI-00072-00016200-00016421 complicated about keeping kosher when
dVUT5j0woWI-00073-00016422-00016715 we're just by ourselves oh yeah yeah of
dVUT5j0woWI-00074-00016716-00016979 course of course like there are a ton of
dVUT5j0woWI-00075-00016980-00017279 limitations we have when we keep kosher
dVUT5j0woWI-00076-00017280-00017465 but I think I understand why you jump to
dVUT5j0woWI-00077-00017466-00017669 interacting with others because I think
dVUT5j0woWI-00078-00017670-00017891 a lot of people who keep kosher doesn't
dVUT5j0woWI-00079-00017892-00018091 even register that we're doing anything
dVUT5j0woWI-00080-00018092-00018365 onerous or complicated it's just a part
dVUT5j0woWI-00081-00018366-00018617 of life right right when something is a
dVUT5j0woWI-00082-00018618-00018880 part of your daily experience in the way
dVUT5j0woWI-00083-00018881-00019085 that cashier does it just becomes road
dVUT5j0woWI-00084-00019086-00019264 like you're not focusing on the meaning
dVUT5j0woWI-00085-00019265-00019529 of it and that's kind of sad right it's
dVUT5j0woWI-00086-00019530-00019744 not just that Castro's is logistically
dVUT5j0woWI-00087-00019745-00020008 difficult in a lot of ways it's also
dVUT5j0woWI-00088-00020009-00020249 difficult to connect with because it's
dVUT5j0woWI-00089-00020250-00020458 just so present that it's like this
dVUT5j0woWI-00090-00020459-00020675 invisible force we don't even think
dVUT5j0woWI-00091-00020676-00020855 about it right like how often do you
dVUT5j0woWI-00092-00020856-00021136 wonder about the deep meaning behind not
dVUT5j0woWI-00093-00021137-00021258 going to McDonald's
dVUT5j0woWI-00094-00021259-00021611 yeah not not very often
dVUT5j0woWI-00095-00021612-00021911 ah you know that's reminding me of
dVUT5j0woWI-00096-00021912-00022127 another tricky thing about kashrit which
dVUT5j0woWI-00097-00022128-00022433 is let me say it like this it's bad in
dVUT5j0woWI-00098-00022434-00022661 and of itself to not know the meaning
dVUT5j0woWI-00099-00022662-00022883 behind the laws of kashra just like for
dVUT5j0woWI-00100-00022884-00023063 our own personal spiritual Journeys but
dVUT5j0woWI-00101-00023064-00023314 it's also really hard to know what to
dVUT5j0woWI-00102-00023315-00023483 say when people ask about it you know
dVUT5j0woWI-00103-00023484-00023753 people who are expressing sincere
dVUT5j0woWI-00104-00023754-00023969 curiosity they want to know like oh so
dVUT5j0woWI-00105-00023970-00024125 what's the reason behind it why do you
dVUT5j0woWI-00106-00024126-00024250 do it
dVUT5j0woWI-00107-00024251-00024569 um and it's just not satisfying to start
dVUT5j0woWI-00108-00024570-00024772 romanticizing who came in that moment
dVUT5j0woWI-00109-00024773-00024971 right and be like well actually it's
dVUT5j0woWI-00110-00024972-00025199 it's I don't know why I do it but it's
dVUT5j0woWI-00111-00025200-00025469 my gesture to God my beloved to show
dVUT5j0woWI-00112-00025470-00025667 that you know whatever my beloved asks
dVUT5j0woWI-00113-00025668-00025840 me to do I'll do happily it's not
dVUT5j0woWI-00114-00025841-00026033 satisfying yeah and you know that
dVUT5j0woWI-00115-00026033-00026267 reminds me like Shabbat is a really hard
dVUT5j0woWI-00116-00026268-00026464 thing when you're in law school and your
dVUT5j0woWI-00117-00026466-00026639 study group wants to meet and you
dVUT5j0woWI-00118-00026639-00026807 explain that your religion requires you
dVUT5j0woWI-00119-00026808-00027017 to actually take a break from doing and
dVUT5j0woWI-00120-00027018-00027311 spend the moment in being
dVUT5j0woWI-00121-00027312-00027520 um that's you know people are like wow
dVUT5j0woWI-00122-00027522-00027664 that's really cool and you really do
dVUT5j0woWI-00123-00027666-00027868 feel like the Fulfillment of uh where
dVUT5j0woWI-00124-00027869-00028235 the um in the Mitzvah like that by the
dVUT5j0woWI-00125-00028236-00028396 way is the idea that the nations of the
dVUT5j0woWI-00126-00028397-00028546 world should be able to look at the
dVUT5j0woWI-00127-00028547-00028757 mitzvos and see the wisdom in them and
dVUT5j0woWI-00128-00028758-00029033 that was easier to do than it was for me
dVUT5j0woWI-00129-00029033-00029249 to explain why I couldn't taste you know
dVUT5j0woWI-00130-00029250-00029477 the brownies that
dVUT5j0woWI-00131-00029477-00029758 um somebody had made or or why I
dVUT5j0woWI-00132-00029760-00030023 couldn't go out to you know the
dVUT5j0woWI-00133-00030024-00030335 restaurant that they had chosen uh in
dVUT5j0woWI-00134-00030336-00030514 the evening and why I constantly needed
dVUT5j0woWI-00135-00030516-00030701 to bring my own food to every single
dVUT5j0woWI-00136-00030702-00030857 event
dVUT5j0woWI-00137-00030858-00031085 um if you can explain why you can't eat
dVUT5j0woWI-00138-00031086-00031301 bacon right for there you switch to say
dVUT5j0woWI-00139-00031302-00031481 no it's a cloak and we do random things
dVUT5j0woWI-00140-00031482-00031745 that God asks us to do then you know
dVUT5j0woWI-00141-00031745-00032033 quite feel like the um if you don't have
dVUT5j0woWI-00142-00032033-00032699 a good explanation yeah
dVUT5j0woWI-00143-00032700-00032867 [Music]
dVUT5j0woWI-00144-00032868-00033071 so these are some of the difficulties in
dVUT5j0woWI-00145-00033072-00033257 dealing with the meaning of contras
dVUT5j0woWI-00146-00033258-00033449 typically here at meaningful Judaism we
dVUT5j0woWI-00147-00033450-00033659 dive into the biblical text and read the
dVUT5j0woWI-00148-00033660-00033785 various laws about whatever we're
dVUT5j0woWI-00149-00033786-00033977 talking about and see if there is any
dVUT5j0woWI-00150-00033978-00034193 meaning contained in those verses but
dVUT5j0woWI-00151-00034194-00034402 when thinking about where to start we
dVUT5j0woWI-00152-00034403-00034655 were a bit perplexed there are multiple
dVUT5j0woWI-00153-00034656-00034793 places in the Torah that talk about
dVUT5j0woWI-00154-00034794-00035033 castros this section in Leviticus on
dVUT5j0woWI-00155-00035034-00035231 kosher animals and non-kosher animals
dVUT5j0woWI-00156-00035232-00035471 the section in Exodus on mixing milk and
dVUT5j0woWI-00157-00035472-00035639 meat or the section that discusses
dVUT5j0woWI-00158-00035640-00035861 ritual Slaughter when something sort of
dVUT5j0woWI-00159-00035862-00036107 obvious hit us if you're talking about
dVUT5j0woWI-00160-00036108-00036311 kosher you're really by and large
dVUT5j0woWI-00161-00036312-00036545 talking about the laws of eating animals
dVUT5j0woWI-00162-00036546-00036773 think about it we don't have laws about
dVUT5j0woWI-00163-00036774-00036946 kosher and non-kosher fruits or
dVUT5j0woWI-00164-00036947-00037187 vegetables the way we do about meat Thou
dVUT5j0woWI-00165-00037188-00037390 shalt eat carrots but stayeth away from
dVUT5j0woWI-00166-00037391-00037499 grapefruit
dVUT5j0woWI-00167-00037500-00037739 is about which animals we can eat and
dVUT5j0woWI-00168-00037740-00037907 whether we can eat animals with milk an
dVUT5j0woWI-00169-00037908-00038195 animal byproduct and things like that so
dVUT5j0woWI-00170-00038196-00038380 we actually decided to split our
dVUT5j0woWI-00171-00038381-00038639 analysis of castras into three parts a
dVUT5j0woWI-00172-00038640-00038795 kind of mini-series and our meaningful
dVUT5j0woWI-00173-00038796-00039023 Judaism podcast and we're going to talk
dVUT5j0woWI-00174-00039024-00039202 about separating milk and meat and about
dVUT5j0woWI-00175-00039203-00039473 kosher animals in later episodes but to
dVUT5j0woWI-00176-00039474-00039701 kick off our exploration we're going to
dVUT5j0woWI-00177-00039702-00039918 talk about this big fundamental question
dVUT5j0woWI-00178-00039919-00040217 whether and why we can eat animals in
dVUT5j0woWI-00179-00040218-00040445 the first place once we understand that
dVUT5j0woWI-00180-00040446-00040601 it's going to give us an important
dVUT5j0woWI-00181-00040602-00040852 framework to understand kashras and shed
dVUT5j0woWI-00182-00040853-00041033 a lot of light on the meaning of the
dVUT5j0woWI-00183-00041034-00041399 many laws and oddly enough the text that
dVUT5j0woWI-00184-00041400-00041555 is going to help us understand whether
dVUT5j0woWI-00185-00041556-00041789 and why we eat animals is the laws of
dVUT5j0woWI-00186-00041790-00042029 ritual Slaughter and the strange law of
dVUT5j0woWI-00187-00042030-00042274 kisui dam covering the blood of an
dVUT5j0woWI-00188-00042275-00042502 animal this law is in Leviticus 17 and
dVUT5j0woWI-00189-00042503-00042712 Beth who'd been researching this chapter
dVUT5j0woWI-00190-00042713-00043007 made a discovery there that had a pretty
dVUT5j0woWI-00191-00043008-00043240 startling implication it made her
dVUT5j0woWI-00192-00043241-00043396 question whether we ought to be eating
dVUT5j0woWI-00193-00043397-00043649 meat at all here's me and Beth talking
dVUT5j0woWI-00194-00043650-00043846 about her research
dVUT5j0woWI-00195-00043847-00044080 chapter 17 talks at all these different
dVUT5j0woWI-00196-00044081-00044333 things about sacrifices and animals and
dVUT5j0woWI-00197-00044334-00044573 blood and I remember I happened to plan
dVUT5j0woWI-00198-00044574-00045112 this first chapter 17 verse 13. the each
dVUT5j0woWI-00199-00045113-00045515 each Israel if you are going to hunt
dVUT5j0woWI-00200-00045516-00045827 some kind of game whether it's a wild
dVUT5j0woWI-00201-00045828-00046289 animal or uh or or a bird and it's going
dVUT5j0woWI-00202-00046290-00046558 to be eaten then here's what you have to
dVUT5j0woWI-00203-00046559-00046799 do you should spill out the blood and
dVUT5j0woWI-00204-00046800-00047177 you should cover it in with dust and
dVUT5j0woWI-00205-00047178-00047501 it struck me that there was something
dVUT5j0woWI-00206-00047502-00047662 um there was something that's snacked of
dVUT5j0woWI-00207-00047663-00047861 guilt in that gesture like we're
dVUT5j0woWI-00208-00047862-00048133 covering up the blood literally covering
dVUT5j0woWI-00209-00048134-00048467 I think the very next thing that I did
dVUT5j0woWI-00210-00048468-00048773 was I said covering blood like I don't
dVUT5j0woWI-00211-00048774-00048893 think this is the only time the phrase
dVUT5j0woWI-00212-00048894-00049067 comes up in the toe right I've heard
dVUT5j0woWI-00213-00049068-00049217 this before you know where does it come
dVUT5j0woWI-00214-00049218-00049312 up
dVUT5j0woWI-00215-00049313-00049427 um and what might that tell me about
dVUT5j0woWI-00216-00049428-00049661 what's going on here so I stuck the
dVUT5j0woWI-00217-00049662-00049907 phrase covering blood into my friendly
dVUT5j0woWI-00218-00049908-00050255 Torah search engine and aha I knew why
dVUT5j0woWI-00219-00050256-00050435 the words felt familiar I was
dVUT5j0woWI-00220-00050436-00050662 remembering them from Genesis 37 the the
dVUT5j0woWI-00221-00050663-00050885 story of Joseph and his brothers now
dVUT5j0woWI-00222-00050886-00051124 maybe you're thinking where is there
dVUT5j0woWI-00223-00051125-00051316 covering up blood in the Joseph story
dVUT5j0woWI-00224-00051317-00051629 literally just what I was going to ask
dVUT5j0woWI-00225-00051629-00051838 so here's what happens
dVUT5j0woWI-00226-00051839-00052529 goes to check on
dVUT5j0woWI-00227-00052529-00052763 her they sit down they sit down to eat
dVUT5j0woWI-00228-00052764-00053075 bread and then all of a sudden a caravan
dVUT5j0woWI-00229-00053076-00053350 of ishmaelites are seen approaching from
dVUT5j0woWI-00230-00053351-00053842 a distance and Yehuda speaks up and he
dVUT5j0woWI-00231-00053844-00054029 says
dVUT5j0woWI-00232-00054029-00054726 um hold on he says
dVUT5j0woWI-00233-00054727-00055066 what benefit is it to us if we kill our
dVUT5j0woWI-00234-00055067-00055423 brother and we cover his blood
dVUT5j0woWI-00235-00055424-00055744 let's sell him to the ishmaelites
dVUT5j0woWI-00236-00055745-00056153 and uh that way we won't be liable in
dVUT5j0woWI-00237-00056154-00056447 his murder wow so covering the blood
dVUT5j0woWI-00238-00056448-00056747 yeah is really covering up a murder
dVUT5j0woWI-00239-00056748-00056915 right this is
dVUT5j0woWI-00240-00056916-00057088 it's a covering up our murder exactly
dVUT5j0woWI-00241-00057089-00057388 it's an idiom he is using this phrase
dVUT5j0woWI-00242-00057389-00057592 kisui Dum and he's not using it to mean
dVUT5j0woWI-00243-00057594-00057791 literally you know blood is on the floor
dVUT5j0woWI-00244-00057791-00058030 and you need to cover it up but um it's
dVUT5j0woWI-00245-00058032-00058216 it's what you do when you're guilty of
dVUT5j0woWI-00246-00058217-00058361 murder and you don't want someone to
dVUT5j0woWI-00247-00058362-00058480 know
dVUT5j0woWI-00248-00058482-00058823 um and what's fascinating is that this
dVUT5j0woWI-00249-00058824-00058966 isn't
dVUT5j0woWI-00250-00058967-00059404 the only phrase that links the story of
dVUT5j0woWI-00251-00059405-00059716 Joseph in the pit to that uh that law of
dVUT5j0woWI-00252-00059717-00059950 kisui dam that we were reading there's
dVUT5j0woWI-00253-00059951-00060113 other language here too look at verse
dVUT5j0woWI-00254-00060114-00060287 22. do you want to read it for me and
dVUT5j0woWI-00255-00060288-00060766 tell me what you see him
dVUT5j0woWI-00256-00060767-00061025 Reuben says to his brothers let's not
dVUT5j0woWI-00257-00061026-00061180 spill blood so it's not just covering
dVUT5j0woWI-00258-00061182-00061354 Blood let's not spill the blood of our
dVUT5j0woWI-00259-00061355-00061804 brother Ashley Hotel
dVUT5j0woWI-00260-00061805-00061997 um let's throw him in a pit so this is
dVUT5j0woWI-00261-00061998-00062297 the context is when Yosef is approaching
dVUT5j0woWI-00262-00062298-00062471 them the brothers are actually thinking
dVUT5j0woWI-00263-00062472-00062638 let's go kill him and that might mean
dVUT5j0woWI-00264-00062639-00062915 let's knife him let's beat him up but
dVUT5j0woWI-00265-00062916-00063299 ruvane says whoa whoa we we shouldn't
dVUT5j0woWI-00266-00063300-00063557 spill blood right we're not murderers
dVUT5j0woWI-00267-00063558-00063875 right let's actually let's sanitize this
dVUT5j0woWI-00268-00063876-00064097 process let's throw him into a pit the
dVUT5j0woWI-00269-00064098-00064300 yada al-tish the hubo and and therefore
dVUT5j0woWI-00270-00064301-00064606 technically no one will actually have uh
dVUT5j0woWI-00271-00064607-00065219 have made physical contact with him
dVUT5j0woWI-00272-00065220-00065603 [Music]
dVUT5j0woWI-00273-00065604-00065926 I found and still find so cool is
dVUT5j0woWI-00274-00065927-00066094 there's some connection between these
dVUT5j0woWI-00275-00066095-00066256 two chapters of the Torah
dVUT5j0woWI-00276-00066257-00066544 but also I think what we're seeing is
dVUT5j0woWI-00277-00066545-00066665 that
dVUT5j0woWI-00278-00066666-00067009 um you've got one Torah idiom which is
dVUT5j0woWI-00279-00067010-00067288 the covering of blood doesn't just mean
dVUT5j0woWI-00280-00067289-00067463 literally the covering of blood it means
dVUT5j0woWI-00281-00067464-00067726 the um the obscuring of guilt and then
dVUT5j0woWI-00282-00067727-00068081 you have another idiom which is right
dVUT5j0woWI-00283-00068082-00068303 um the spilling of blood spilling of
dVUT5j0woWI-00284-00068304-00068476 blood in Torah language means to murder
dVUT5j0woWI-00285-00068477-00068782 someone right step one spill blood step
dVUT5j0woWI-00286-00068783-00068993 two cover blood it means in our language
dVUT5j0woWI-00287-00068994-00069161 too right when you talk about you know
dVUT5j0woWI-00288-00069162-00069365 the spilling of blood refers to murder
dVUT5j0woWI-00289-00069366-00069947 or War violence mm-hmm
dVUT5j0woWI-00290-00069948-00070132 forward and you go to
dVUT5j0woWI-00291-00070133-00070379 you go to doctor 17 of Leviticus you can
dVUT5j0woWI-00292-00070380-00070588 now look at this Mitzvah of kisui dam
dVUT5j0woWI-00293-00070589-00070787 and you read the verse and the verse has
dVUT5j0woWI-00294-00070788-00070997 two meanings there's two layers there's
dVUT5j0woWI-00295-00070998-00071279 there's the literal meaning which is the
dVUT5j0woWI-00296-00071280-00071441 law and how we usually interpret it and
dVUT5j0woWI-00297-00071442-00071591 then there's the idiomatic meaning right
dVUT5j0woWI-00298-00071592-00071861 so the literal meaning is okay a person
dVUT5j0woWI-00299-00071862-00072161 who hunts game he's gonna eat it what
dVUT5j0woWI-00300-00072162-00072413 should he do he should pour the blood
dVUT5j0woWI-00301-00072414-00072671 out and he should cover it with dust but
dVUT5j0woWI-00302-00072672-00072815 what's the idiomatic meeting you know
dVUT5j0woWI-00303-00072816-00072988 you transfer from Genesis the idiomatic
dVUT5j0woWI-00304-00072989-00073300 meaning is a person who hunts game and
dVUT5j0woWI-00305-00073301-00073571 he wants to eat it he commits a murder
dVUT5j0woWI-00306-00073572-00073817 and he obscures the fact that he was a
dVUT5j0woWI-00307-00073818-00074009 murderer right that's that's what the
dVUT5j0woWI-00308-00074010-00074141 verse is saying yeah it makes the
dVUT5j0woWI-00309-00074142-00074356 slaughtering of a game or whatever it is
dVUT5j0woWI-00310-00074357-00074669 it makes it feel like murder which is a
dVUT5j0woWI-00311-00074670-00074843 very very strange
dVUT5j0woWI-00312-00074844-00075119 uh place to be uh the Torah is telling
dVUT5j0woWI-00313-00075120-00075329 you how to prepare an animal so that you
dVUT5j0woWI-00314-00075330-00075479 you may eat it
dVUT5j0woWI-00315-00075480-00075706 you're expecting a Mitzvah to tell you
dVUT5j0woWI-00316-00075707-00076000 the right The Good the moral way to go
dVUT5j0woWI-00317-00076001-00076150 through your life
dVUT5j0woWI-00318-00076151-00076385 it feels it feels almost I don't know
dVUT5j0woWI-00319-00076386-00076805 passive aggressive of of the text right
dVUT5j0woWI-00320-00076806-00077075 to say yeah you can eat it I guess like
dVUT5j0woWI-00321-00077076-00077273 if you love murdering things like if you
dVUT5j0woWI-00322-00077274-00077399 just want to be like Joseph's brothers
dVUT5j0woWI-00323-00077400-00077537 then I guess you could spill the blood
dVUT5j0woWI-00324-00077538-00077776 and like cover it with with dirt if you
dVUT5j0woWI-00325-00077777-00077950 want to right that's how it feels so
dVUT5j0woWI-00326-00077951-00078143 it's like what is this Mitzvah trying to
dVUT5j0woWI-00327-00078144-00078365 tell me what we're struggling with here
dVUT5j0woWI-00328-00078366-00078556 is most of us don't typically think
dVUT5j0woWI-00329-00078557-00078797 about the Torah as being a vegetarian
dVUT5j0woWI-00330-00078798-00079085 Manifesto and yet what we're seeing here
dVUT5j0woWI-00331-00079086-00079319 is this implicit Association the Torah
dVUT5j0woWI-00332-00079320-00079505 is making between slaughtering animals
dVUT5j0woWI-00333-00079506-00079775 and covering up murder that sounds
dVUT5j0woWI-00334-00079776-00079991 pretty anti-meat
dVUT5j0woWI-00335-00079992-00080153 and that just brings up so many
dVUT5j0woWI-00336-00080154-00080356 questions like are we really reading
dVUT5j0woWI-00337-00080357-00080515 this right or are we missing something
dVUT5j0woWI-00338-00080516-00080794 and if what we're seeing here really is
dVUT5j0woWI-00339-00080795-00080962 painting neat with the same brush as
dVUT5j0woWI-00340-00080963-00081185 murder what does that say about all of
dVUT5j0woWI-00341-00081186-00081443 us out there who eat meat are we all in
dVUT5j0woWI-00342-00081444-00081671 the wrong have centuries of Jews
dVUT5j0woWI-00343-00081672-00081815 celebrating festivals and joyous
dVUT5j0woWI-00344-00081816-00082012 occasions with delicious dishes of meat
dVUT5j0woWI-00345-00082013-00082217 actually been party to some terrible
dVUT5j0woWI-00346-00082218-00082529 atrocity and now thank God emu and Beth
dVUT5j0woWI-00347-00082530-00082721 finally read the Torah carefully and
dVUT5j0woWI-00348-00082722-00082882 figured it out and by the way you're
dVUT5j0woWI-00349-00082883-00082985 welcome
dVUT5j0woWI-00350-00082986-00083309 that feels hard to say and there are so
dVUT5j0woWI-00351-00083310-00083453 many other reasons to be hesitant about
dVUT5j0woWI-00352-00083454-00083675 this claim too like what's the deal with
dVUT5j0woWI-00353-00083676-00083915 corbanos animal offerings if
dVUT5j0woWI-00354-00083916-00084047 slaughtering an animal is something
dVUT5j0woWI-00355-00084048-00084262 criminal if it's basically taking a life
dVUT5j0woWI-00356-00084263-00084503 why does God seem to invite us to do it
dVUT5j0woWI-00357-00084504-00084773 all the time in the temple and also
dVUT5j0woWI-00358-00084774-00085067 maybe the most basic question is hey God
dVUT5j0woWI-00359-00085068-00085349 if slaughtering animals is so bad why go
dVUT5j0woWI-00360-00085350-00085487 through this convoluted way of
dVUT5j0woWI-00361-00085488-00085691 condemning it by explaining how to
dVUT5j0woWI-00362-00085692-00085888 slaughter me but embedding all this
dVUT5j0woWI-00363-00085889-00086050 language in it that like subliminally
dVUT5j0woWI-00364-00086051-00086157 Whispers
dVUT5j0woWI-00365-00086158-00086285 [Applause]
dVUT5j0woWI-00366-00086286-00086465 why not just come out and forbid it why
dVUT5j0woWI-00367-00086466-00086656 be so coy there are plenty of animals
dVUT5j0woWI-00368-00086657-00086825 God forbids us for meetings so what are
dVUT5j0woWI-00369-00086826-00086932 a few more
dVUT5j0woWI-00370-00086933-00087179 the truth is this last question it's
dVUT5j0woWI-00371-00087180-00087341 actually more complicated than it may
dVUT5j0woWI-00372-00087342-00087671 seem because turns out God actually did
dVUT5j0woWI-00373-00087672-00087929 forbid eating animals there's a whole
dVUT5j0woWI-00374-00087930-00088109 history of man's ability to eat meat
dVUT5j0woWI-00375-00088110-00088325 going all the way back to literally the
dVUT5j0woWI-00376-00088326-00088541 first chapter of Genesis and when you
dVUT5j0woWI-00377-00088542-00088781 know that history it adds New Dimensions
dVUT5j0woWI-00378-00088782-00089050 to the questions we just asked and it
dVUT5j0woWI-00379-00089051-00089188 will help us to better understand
dVUT5j0woWI-00380-00089189-00089471 whether and how God wants us to eat meat
dVUT5j0woWI-00381-00089472-00089687 which in turn will help us understand
dVUT5j0woWI-00382-00089688-00089950 the larger meaning behind coshres so
dVUT5j0woWI-00383-00089951-00090587 Beth and I visit Genesis next
dVUT5j0woWI-00384-00090588-00090797 you want to take us into Genesis
dVUT5j0woWI-00385-00090798-00090949 1.
dVUT5j0woWI-00386-00090950-00091282 I do yeah maybe our first cautious law
dVUT5j0woWI-00387-00091283-00091726 um
dVUT5j0woWI-00388-00091727-00091973 not in the sense that we're
dVUT5j0woWI-00389-00091974-00092261 cautious but this is the first time that
dVUT5j0woWI-00390-00092262-00092476 God tells us you know what kind of food
dVUT5j0woWI-00391-00092477-00092687 we can and can't eat
dVUT5j0woWI-00392-00092688-00092879 um okay so let's let's go to the story
dVUT5j0woWI-00393-00092880-00093203 it's the dawn of creation
dVUT5j0woWI-00394-00093204-00093406 Adam is standing on the earth everything
dVUT5j0woWI-00395-00093407-00093688 has been created and then God kind of
dVUT5j0woWI-00396-00093689-00094031 like Zooms in on the people
dVUT5j0woWI-00397-00094032-00094367 okay God gives a blessing to mankind God
dVUT5j0woWI-00398-00094368-00094655 tells mankind to be fruitful and
dVUT5j0woWI-00399-00094656-00094912 multiply that uh mankind is going to
dVUT5j0woWI-00400-00094913-00095261 have dominion over everything yet the
dVUT5j0woWI-00401-00095262-00095599 very next verse seems to um to temper
dVUT5j0woWI-00402-00095600-00096035 that Declaration of dominion so behold I
dVUT5j0woWI-00403-00096036-00096565 have given to you
dVUT5j0woWI-00404-00096566-00096893 every single grass that is on the face
dVUT5j0woWI-00405-00096894-00097218 of the earth that is
dVUT5j0woWI-00406-00097219-00097606 every single tree that has in it
dVUT5j0woWI-00407-00097607-00098135 um a uh uh a tree fruit so this is God
dVUT5j0woWI-00408-00098136-00098309 telling us what our menu is going to be
dVUT5j0woWI-00409-00098310-00098537 it's a it's a plant-based diet
dVUT5j0woWI-00410-00098538-00098867 um and I think the next verse Builds on
dVUT5j0woWI-00411-00098868-00099029 that and also further tempers the
dVUT5j0woWI-00412-00099030-00099323 Declaration of dominion because we are
dVUT5j0woWI-00413-00099324-00099491 not the only ones
dVUT5j0woWI-00414-00099492-00099718 um who get to order off of that menu
dVUT5j0woWI-00415-00099719-00099868 so
dVUT5j0woWI-00416-00099869-00100115 um every single animal all the different
dVUT5j0woWI-00417-00100116-00100379 kinds the wild animals the birds and the
dVUT5j0woWI-00418-00100380-00100685 creepy crawlers they also get the very
dVUT5j0woWI-00419-00100686-00101003 same thing that God uh earmarked for us
dVUT5j0woWI-00420-00101004-00101344 as colyaric acid every Green grassy herb
dVUT5j0woWI-00421-00101345-00101506 that's what they get to eat for food so
dVUT5j0woWI-00422-00101507-00101806 the animals also are um not carnivores
dVUT5j0woWI-00423-00101807-00102106 not omnivores but are herbivores yeah so
dVUT5j0woWI-00424-00102107-00102262 what do you make of the fact that right
dVUT5j0woWI-00425-00102263-00102599 after we get the diet for Humanity we
dVUT5j0woWI-00426-00102600-00102749 get the diet for
dVUT5j0woWI-00427-00102750-00103073 the animals yeah so
dVUT5j0woWI-00428-00103074-00103132 um
dVUT5j0woWI-00429-00103133-00103510 interesting by saying that we eat the
dVUT5j0woWI-00430-00103511-00103823 same thing as the animals it's God is
dVUT5j0woWI-00431-00103824-00104147 drawing a a food pyramid
dVUT5j0woWI-00432-00104148-00104458 um and the food pyramid has two levels
dVUT5j0woWI-00433-00104459-00104716 the bottom level is plants and the top
dVUT5j0woWI-00434-00104717-00105143 level is humans and animals so we are in
dVUT5j0woWI-00435-00105144-00105358 a horizontal relationship at this moment
dVUT5j0woWI-00436-00105359-00105563 in time now yeah so I don't know just
dVUT5j0woWI-00437-00105564-00105719 reading all of this I'm we're struck by
dVUT5j0woWI-00438-00105720-00105940 the fact that the original Humanity was
dVUT5j0woWI-00439-00105941-00106090 vegan
dVUT5j0woWI-00440-00106091-00106265 um or at least the original Humanity was
dVUT5j0woWI-00441-00106266-00106575 intended to be vegan
dVUT5j0woWI-00442-00106576-00106927 [Music]
dVUT5j0woWI-00443-00106928-00107266 so let's just take stock of where we are
dVUT5j0woWI-00444-00107267-00107465 first we were sort of uncomfortable with
dVUT5j0woWI-00445-00107466-00107578 the notion that eating meat is
dVUT5j0woWI-00446-00107579-00107777 problematic that it's somehow a crime
dVUT5j0woWI-00447-00107778-00107986 that needs to be covered up that just
dVUT5j0woWI-00448-00107988-00108173 didn't match our experience in Judaism
dVUT5j0woWI-00449-00108174-00108436 and besides if God wanted to Outlaw it
dVUT5j0woWI-00450-00108438-00108628 he should have well what we're
dVUT5j0woWI-00451-00108629-00108839 discovering in Genesis 1 is that God did
dVUT5j0woWI-00452-00108840-00109102 Outlaw the eating of meat so now what do
dVUT5j0woWI-00453-00109103-00109216 we make of that
dVUT5j0woWI-00454-00109217-00109373 if we're trying to get at the meaning of
dVUT5j0woWI-00455-00109374-00109636 kashras and kashras is principally about
dVUT5j0woWI-00456-00109638-00109877 how we eat meat it feels pretty
dVUT5j0woWI-00457-00109878-00110039 important to know that God ideally
dVUT5j0woWI-00458-00110040-00110297 doesn't want us to eat meat I think the
dVUT5j0woWI-00459-00110298-00110458 most important question for us to tackle
dVUT5j0woWI-00460-00110459-00110819 now is why did God change his mind if
dVUT5j0woWI-00461-00110820-00111004 eating meat is so problematic if God
dVUT5j0woWI-00462-00111005-00111215 originally wanted to forbid it it should
dVUT5j0woWI-00463-00111216-00111413 have stayed forbidden
dVUT5j0woWI-00464-00111414-00111640 let's take a look at when the law
dVUT5j0woWI-00465-00111641-00111904 changed and why it changed and see if
dVUT5j0woWI-00466-00111905-00112199 that sheds light on this mystery
dVUT5j0woWI-00467-00112200-00112433 God changes the laws about what man can
dVUT5j0woWI-00468-00112433-00112607 and can't eat at a moment of great
dVUT5j0woWI-00469-00112608-00112858 turbulence in human history right after
dVUT5j0woWI-00470-00112859-00113152 the flood in chapter 9 of Genesis
dVUT5j0woWI-00471-00113153-00113315 God had caused the flood waters to
dVUT5j0woWI-00472-00113316-00113554 recede and tells Noah to leave the ark
dVUT5j0woWI-00473-00113555-00113801 it's that rainbow moment where God makes
dVUT5j0woWI-00474-00113802-00114040 a covenant with Noah and humanity and
dVUT5j0woWI-00475-00114041-00114257 declares never to bring a world-ending
dVUT5j0woWI-00476-00114258-00114389 flood again
dVUT5j0woWI-00477-00114390-00114616 and as a part of that Covenant God
dVUT5j0woWI-00478-00114617-00114869 changes the rules about eating meat
dVUT5j0woWI-00479-00114870-00115066 here's me and Beth reading and
dVUT5j0woWI-00480-00115067-00115234 discussing the verses to see if we can
dVUT5j0woWI-00481-00115235-00115501 figure out why why God reversed course
dVUT5j0woWI-00482-00115502-00115763 and one of the first things we notice is
dVUT5j0woWI-00483-00115764-00115943 that Noah coming out of the Ark to a
dVUT5j0woWI-00484-00115944-00116195 brand new world sounds awfully similar
dVUT5j0woWI-00485-00116196-00116501 to Adam in Genesis being created in a
dVUT5j0woWI-00486-00116502-00117052 Brand New World by avara Elohim
dVUT5j0woWI-00487-00117053-00117499 blesses
dVUT5j0woWI-00488-00117500-00117760 and he says to them you should be
dVUT5j0woWI-00489-00117761-00117904 fruitful you should multiply you should
dVUT5j0woWI-00490-00117905-00118139 fill the world so again this is actually
dVUT5j0woWI-00491-00118140-00118427 sounding very similar to Genesis one
dVUT5j0woWI-00492-00118428-00118721 this is kind of like a recreation a new
dVUT5j0woWI-00493-00118722-00118913 after the world has been wiped out and
dVUT5j0woWI-00494-00118914-00119063 then and in the same way that God
dVUT5j0woWI-00495-00119064-00119339 followed that blessing with a
dVUT5j0woWI-00496-00119340-00119675 declaration of how man should relate to
dVUT5j0woWI-00497-00119676-00119969 the animals it comes as no surprise
dVUT5j0woWI-00498-00119970-00120319 um
dVUT5j0woWI-00499-00120320-00120647 your uh your fear your dread should be
dVUT5j0woWI-00500-00120648-00120899 upon every beast of the earth so similar
dVUT5j0woWI-00501-00120900-00121115 idea but this um feels like stronger
dVUT5j0woWI-00502-00121116-00121366 language what's the bottom line with all
dVUT5j0woWI-00503-00121367-00121495 these animals
dVUT5j0woWI-00504-00121496-00121757 I'm giving them into your hand there's
dVUT5j0woWI-00505-00121758-00121925 there's no limitations on that it seems
dVUT5j0woWI-00506-00121926-00122069 to to imply whatever you want to do to
dVUT5j0woWI-00507-00122070-00122236 them you can do to them and my question
dVUT5j0woWI-00508-00122238-00122471 to God would be really anything that I
dVUT5j0woWI-00509-00122472-00122704 want and God says yes anything that you
dVUT5j0woWI-00510-00122705-00122873 want the implication almost seems to be
dVUT5j0woWI-00511-00122874-00123154 even like what's the craziest thing you
dVUT5j0woWI-00512-00123155-00123340 could do what is the ultimate expression
dVUT5j0woWI-00513-00123341-00123683 of of exercising your your total control
dVUT5j0woWI-00514-00123683-00123928 over them that would have to be you can
dVUT5j0woWI-00515-00123929-00124223 even eat them you can even
dVUT5j0woWI-00516-00124224-00124457 snuff out their life and consume it and
dVUT5j0woWI-00517-00124458-00124613 make it a part of yourself
dVUT5j0woWI-00518-00124614-00124939 cheric acid
dVUT5j0woWI-00519-00124940-00125207 I'm giving them to you in the same way
dVUT5j0woWI-00520-00125208-00125471 that I gave you plans back in in Genesis
dVUT5j0woWI-00521-00125472-00125663 one so I keep coming back to the pyramid
dVUT5j0woWI-00522-00125664-00125902 that's in my head like where are animals
dVUT5j0woWI-00523-00125903-00126154 on the pyramid are they with people no
dVUT5j0woWI-00524-00126155-00126371 no now we're being we're pushing them
dVUT5j0woWI-00525-00126372-00126478 down now they're on the level with
dVUT5j0woWI-00526-00126479-00126689 balance but there are some limitations
dVUT5j0woWI-00527-00126690-00126821 even to that
dVUT5j0woWI-00528-00126822-00127307 ah but however notwithstanding
dVUT5j0woWI-00529-00127308-00127657 um bizarre benef
dVUT5j0woWI-00530-00127658-00128039 but if it has blood in it you can't eat
dVUT5j0woWI-00531-00128040-00128278 that right the text goes on to qualify
dVUT5j0woWI-00532-00128279-00128458 this new permission to eat animals and
dVUT5j0woWI-00533-00128459-00128627 it says you have to stop short of eating
dVUT5j0woWI-00534-00128628-00128723 their blood
dVUT5j0woWI-00535-00128724-00128957 now what would be really nice is if the
dVUT5j0woWI-00536-00128958-00129173 text rounded it all out and said and
dVUT5j0woWI-00537-00129174-00129431 thus is the reason I God hath changed my
dVUT5j0woWI-00538-00129432-00129754 mind and allow thee to eat meat but
dVUT5j0woWI-00539-00129755-00129983 that's not what we get instead the text
dVUT5j0woWI-00540-00129983-00130247 goes on and it says by the way while
dVUT5j0woWI-00541-00130248-00130378 we're talking about not eating animal
dVUT5j0woWI-00542-00130379-00131004 blood I want to talk about people blood
dVUT5j0woWI-00543-00131005-00131225 however even though you can spill the
dVUT5j0woWI-00544-00131226-00131471 blood of animals your blood the blood
dVUT5j0woWI-00545-00131472-00132109 soul of humans I'm gonna seek it out
dVUT5j0woWI-00546-00132110-00132431 right if you spill man's blood by man
dVUT5j0woWI-00547-00132432-00132781 your blood shall be spilled keep itself
dVUT5j0woWI-00548-00132782-00133061 right because Humanity was created in
dVUT5j0woWI-00549-00133062-00133211 the image of God
dVUT5j0woWI-00550-00133212-00133421 let's just remember where we are we're
dVUT5j0woWI-00551-00133422-00133595 looking we're hunting for what I like to
dVUT5j0woWI-00552-00133596-00133804 glibly call the kashras laws and there's
dVUT5j0woWI-00553-00133805-00133973 a cautious law in Noah so they come out
dVUT5j0woWI-00554-00133974-00134278 of the Ark God says hey just change to
dVUT5j0woWI-00555-00134279-00134489 change the laws and now you can have
dVUT5j0woWI-00556-00134490-00134699 burgers and you're allowed to eat
dVUT5j0woWI-00557-00134700-00134843 animals
dVUT5j0woWI-00558-00134844-00134951 um by the way I'm also going to give you
dVUT5j0woWI-00559-00134952-00135131 the law of murder don't kill people it's
dVUT5j0woWI-00560-00135132-00135347 very strange like why am I giving murder
dVUT5j0woWI-00561-00135348-00135599 loss right next to the cautious laws
dVUT5j0woWI-00562-00135600-00135964 yeah and it maybe is meant to be a
dVUT5j0woWI-00563-00135965-00136223 reminder that yeah that even in this
dVUT5j0woWI-00564-00136224-00136619 moment of license what God is allowing
dVUT5j0woWI-00565-00136620-00136763 us to do
dVUT5j0woWI-00566-00136764-00137027 is really shocking and surprising and
dVUT5j0woWI-00567-00137028-00137278 quite grave right so it seems like even
dVUT5j0woWI-00568-00137279-00137507 though God changes his mind the fact
dVUT5j0woWI-00569-00137508-00137675 that this permission is next to the laws
dVUT5j0woWI-00570-00137676-00137927 of murder suggests that this was not a
dVUT5j0woWI-00571-00137928-00138059 happy permission
dVUT5j0woWI-00572-00138060-00138221 so I mean I think that the major
dVUT5j0woWI-00573-00138222-00138563 question to ask now is why does the law
dVUT5j0woWI-00574-00138564-00138766 change what exactly
dVUT5j0woWI-00575-00138767-00139037 uh prompts God to to take us from being
dVUT5j0woWI-00576-00139038-00139145 vegan
dVUT5j0woWI-00577-00139146-00139390 to some form of permissiveness around
dVUT5j0woWI-00578-00139391-00139786 eating animals yeah
dVUT5j0woWI-00579-00139787-00140099 [Music]
dVUT5j0woWI-00580-00140100-00140314 we talked about how where we are in the
dVUT5j0woWI-00581-00140315-00140483 Torah is sort of the recreation of the
dVUT5j0woWI-00582-00140484-00140747 world the way he recreates it is it is a
dVUT5j0woWI-00583-00140748-00140987 less sensitive world right if Humanity
dVUT5j0woWI-00584-00140988-00141173 makes a mistake in the pre-flood World
dVUT5j0woWI-00585-00141174-00141395 there is a punishment following closely
dVUT5j0woWI-00586-00141396-00141611 after a curse following closely after
dVUT5j0woWI-00587-00141612-00142097 but here I'm now in Genesis 8 21. God
dVUT5j0woWI-00588-00142098-00142390 actually says I'm not going to continue
dVUT5j0woWI-00589-00142391-00142702 to to curse the the Earth you know again
dVUT5j0woWI-00590-00142703-00142978 because of humanity because I've
dVUT5j0woWI-00591-00142979-00143327 realized that um Humanity's uh his
dVUT5j0woWI-00592-00143328-00143681 designs his his form is uh of his heart
dVUT5j0woWI-00593-00143682-00143975 specifically is evil from his youth I'm
dVUT5j0woWI-00594-00143976-00144185 not going to continue to
dVUT5j0woWI-00595-00144186-00144521 um punish or bring plague on all living
dVUT5j0woWI-00596-00144522-00144802 things like I've done I'm gonna give a
dVUT5j0woWI-00597-00144803-00144971 much more stable and less sensitive
dVUT5j0woWI-00598-00144972-00145240 world so given all of that
dVUT5j0woWI-00599-00145241-00145463 I had thought that
dVUT5j0woWI-00600-00145464-00145721 um one possible answer for Humanity's
dVUT5j0woWI-00601-00145722-00146099 ability to eat animals is that God is
dVUT5j0woWI-00602-00146100-00146369 expecting less of humanity
dVUT5j0woWI-00603-00146370-00146652 um the the rules have changed um and so
dVUT5j0woWI-00604-00146653-00146969 humanity is not going to be held to as
dVUT5j0woWI-00605-00146970-00147185 strict of a standard as they were held
dVUT5j0woWI-00606-00147186-00147466 before
dVUT5j0woWI-00607-00147467-00147604 resonates
dVUT5j0woWI-00608-00147605-00147851 let me think about that for a second
dVUT5j0woWI-00609-00147852-00148145 it's very sneaky what you just said
dVUT5j0woWI-00610-00148146-00148373 um and I'm realizing the stinkiness of
dVUT5j0woWI-00611-00148374-00148631 it as I move from the place of like huh
dVUT5j0woWI-00612-00148632-00148895 that's an interesting read the place of
dVUT5j0woWI-00613-00148896-00149087 oh what are the implications of that how
dVUT5j0woWI-00614-00149088-00149297 does that change how we read Leviticus
dVUT5j0woWI-00615-00149298-00149452 how does that change what I buy in the
dVUT5j0woWI-00616-00149453-00149561 supermarket
dVUT5j0woWI-00617-00149562-00149831 um and if that's the case then feels
dVUT5j0woWI-00618-00149832-00150004 feels icky right it feels icky because
dVUT5j0woWI-00619-00150005-00150257 it's it's sort of a different flavor of
dVUT5j0woWI-00620-00150258-00150611 pityabid a non-ideal situation
dVUT5j0woWI-00621-00150612-00150935 um you could choose to live where like I
dVUT5j0woWI-00622-00150936-00151175 got him paying attention and responding
dVUT5j0woWI-00623-00151176-00151433 to your Every Act and you see that I'm
dVUT5j0woWI-00624-00151434-00151673 there and we're having a conversation or
dVUT5j0woWI-00625-00151674-00151828 you could choose to distance yourself
dVUT5j0woWI-00626-00151829-00152027 and
dVUT5j0woWI-00627-00152028-00152440 live in this world that is governed by
dVUT5j0woWI-00628-00152441-00152704 natural laws and that a world that God
dVUT5j0woWI-00629-00152705-00152914 doesn't really step foot into you're
dVUT5j0woWI-00630-00152915-00153059 allowed to do that you can choose to do
dVUT5j0woWI-00631-00153060-00153161 that it's like that's what we're
dVUT5j0woWI-00632-00153162-00153328 choosing to do when we when we buy the
dVUT5j0woWI-00633-00153329-00153557 Empire chicken that's a that's I don't
dVUT5j0woWI-00634-00153558-00153749 need that on my conscience so the answer
dVUT5j0woWI-00635-00153750-00153911 we're currently weighing is that there
dVUT5j0woWI-00636-00153912-00153990 is
dVUT5j0woWI-00637-00153991-00154402 a distinction an ideal and non-ideal if
dVUT5j0woWI-00638-00154403-00154559 you're a meat eater and you're defending
dVUT5j0woWI-00639-00154560-00154702 your moral position you could have
dVUT5j0woWI-00640-00154703-00154925 claimed well if God wanted to forbid it
dVUT5j0woWI-00641-00154926-00155237 he would have except number one God lets
dVUT5j0woWI-00642-00155238-00155399 us know that the original law was that
dVUT5j0woWI-00643-00155400-00155681 man should be vegan and number two God
dVUT5j0woWI-00644-00155682-00155854 permits eating of meat in the same
dVUT5j0woWI-00645-00155855-00156113 breath as the law against murder and
dVUT5j0woWI-00646-00156114-00156328 number three God gives the Israelites
dVUT5j0woWI-00647-00156329-00156526 the command to spill blood and cover up
dVUT5j0woWI-00648-00156527-00156773 the crime as it were the Torah seems to
dVUT5j0woWI-00649-00156774-00157061 be simultaneously teaching us the ideal
dVUT5j0woWI-00650-00157062-00157378 position and the non-ideal position sort
dVUT5j0woWI-00651-00157379-00157625 of as a concession to the base nature of
dVUT5j0woWI-00652-00157626-00157745 humanity
dVUT5j0woWI-00653-00157746-00157949 it's not that God no problem with meat
dVUT5j0woWI-00654-00157950-00158326 God has low expectations from humans and
dVUT5j0woWI-00655-00158327-00158489 he's not going to force this law on us
dVUT5j0woWI-00656-00158490-00158716 even though by rights it's the moral
dVUT5j0woWI-00657-00158717-00158897 thing to do
dVUT5j0woWI-00658-00158898-00159154 now if that's true then that subtle
dVUT5j0woWI-00659-00159155-00159413 passive aggressive tone in verse 13 in
dVUT5j0woWI-00660-00159414-00159676 Leviticus that's probably an extension
dVUT5j0woWI-00661-00159677-00159904 of this the permission hasn't gone away
dVUT5j0woWI-00662-00159905-00160126 but the moral issues haven't gone away
dVUT5j0woWI-00663-00160127-00160228 either
dVUT5j0woWI-00664-00160229-00160463 and this leaves me and Beth in an
dVUT5j0woWI-00665-00160464-00160739 uncomfortable position as people who you
dVUT5j0woWI-00666-00160740-00160961 know want to do the right thing but also
dVUT5j0woWI-00667-00160962-00161266 as people who do eat meat we talked
dVUT5j0woWI-00668-00161267-00161423 about that awkward position a little bit
dVUT5j0woWI-00669-00161424-00161628 and how we could come to terms with it
dVUT5j0woWI-00670-00161629-00161939 can I share an analogy with you yes
dVUT5j0woWI-00671-00161940-00162211 here's what it makes me think of
dVUT5j0woWI-00672-00162212-00162581 so when I
dVUT5j0woWI-00673-00162582-00162766 um first became a parent
dVUT5j0woWI-00674-00162767-00162964 and I didn't have a lot of experience
dVUT5j0woWI-00675-00162965-00163181 with raising kids and disciplining kids
dVUT5j0woWI-00676-00163182-00163390 because I I'm an only child
dVUT5j0woWI-00677-00163391-00163678 so I remember it came as kind of a shock
dVUT5j0woWI-00678-00163679-00164093 to me when I figured out that
dVUT5j0woWI-00679-00164094-00164261 um that you sometimes need to be fairly
dVUT5j0woWI-00680-00164262-00164507 firm with your children you know and
dVUT5j0woWI-00681-00164508-00164807 your uh toddler doesn't want to leave
dVUT5j0woWI-00682-00164808-00165023 the playground and it's time to go and
dVUT5j0woWI-00683-00165024-00165197 sometimes at a certain after a certain
dVUT5j0woWI-00684-00165198-00165419 point you just have to like pick them up
dVUT5j0woWI-00685-00165420-00165587 you put them in the car and they don't
dVUT5j0woWI-00686-00165588-00165713 want to be in the car seat they might
dVUT5j0woWI-00687-00165714-00165928 fight and they might kick and scream
dVUT5j0woWI-00688-00165929-00166145 it's time to go I love you and it's time
dVUT5j0woWI-00689-00166146-00166295 to go and you force them into the car
dVUT5j0woWI-00690-00166296-00166463 seat and it's not fun but ever sometimes
dVUT5j0woWI-00691-00166464-00166726 you have to do that right and
dVUT5j0woWI-00692-00166727-00166889 um and I remember
dVUT5j0woWI-00693-00166890-00167159 I had gotten quite comfortable at a
dVUT5j0woWI-00694-00167160-00167290 certain point in my parenting Journey
dVUT5j0woWI-00695-00167291-00167626 with doing that and I went away for
dVUT5j0woWI-00696-00167627-00167861 Shabbos with my toddler and my husband
dVUT5j0woWI-00697-00167862-00168178 to a friend's house and the friend had a
dVUT5j0woWI-00698-00168179-00168389 whole crap of kids who were older than
dVUT5j0woWI-00699-00168390-00168569 my toddler and they were playing with
dVUT5j0woWI-00700-00168570-00168785 him and there was a certain point at
dVUT5j0woWI-00701-00168786-00169097 which it was maybe it was time to go
dVUT5j0woWI-00702-00169098-00169319 and he didn't want to go he was upset
dVUT5j0woWI-00703-00169320-00169583 and the five-year-old girl in this
dVUT5j0woWI-00704-00169584-00169666 family
dVUT5j0woWI-00705-00169667-00169985 got down with him and started like in
dVUT5j0woWI-00706-00169986-00170202 this very creative compassionate way
dVUT5j0woWI-00707-00170203-00170495 trying to persuade him that it would be
dVUT5j0woWI-00708-00170496-00170723 a good thing to go right and I was so
dVUT5j0woWI-00709-00170724-00170957 ready to sweep right in and be like okay
dVUT5j0woWI-00710-00170958-00171221 time to go you know tears whatever like
dVUT5j0woWI-00711-00171222-00171376 you'll get over it I love you it'll be
dVUT5j0woWI-00712-00171377-00171652 okay and she was trying to do it in this
dVUT5j0woWI-00713-00171653-00171947 soft way and I and it was a a paradigm
dVUT5j0woWI-00714-00171948-00172109 shift for me and I remember talking
dVUT5j0woWI-00715-00172110-00172283 about to my husband afterwards and I was
dVUT5j0woWI-00716-00172284-00172361 like
dVUT5j0woWI-00717-00172362-00172666 so we started out as parents who didn't
dVUT5j0woWI-00718-00172667-00173026 know how to apply the discipline
dVUT5j0woWI-00719-00173027-00173164 um because those intuitions of
dVUT5j0woWI-00720-00173165-00173363 compassion that we had were so so strong
dVUT5j0woWI-00721-00173364-00173554 and then we kind of shut down the
dVUT5j0woWI-00722-00173555-00173813 compassion in order to be able to to be
dVUT5j0woWI-00723-00173814-00174035 effective disciplinarians and we shut it
dVUT5j0woWI-00724-00174036-00174226 down so much that it got buried within
dVUT5j0woWI-00725-00174227-00174604 us and we weren't balancing to
dVUT5j0woWI-00726-00174605-00174833 um values anymore
dVUT5j0woWI-00727-00174834-00174947 um and then this little five-year-old
dVUT5j0woWI-00728-00174948-00175175 girl reminded us like okay so every once
dVUT5j0woWI-00729-00175176-00175337 in a while you do have to do that but
dVUT5j0woWI-00730-00175338-00175499 don't do that if you don't have to like
dVUT5j0woWI-00731-00175500-00175666 that's very bitty of it but if there's a
dVUT5j0woWI-00732-00175667-00175823 way to do this in a peaceful way and
dVUT5j0woWI-00733-00175824-00175954 there's a way to do this that honors
dVUT5j0woWI-00734-00175955-00176099 your intuitions and honors your
dVUT5j0woWI-00735-00176100-00176321 compassion then do that for sure it
dVUT5j0woWI-00736-00176322-00176476 takes a lot more patience
dVUT5j0woWI-00737-00176477-00176716 and it takes a lot more creativity and I
dVUT5j0woWI-00738-00176717-00176837 feel like the same thing is going on
dVUT5j0woWI-00739-00176838-00177004 here where it's like we quiet our
dVUT5j0woWI-00740-00177005-00177347 compassion because it's too complicated
dVUT5j0woWI-00741-00177348-00177647 um to have that living in intention with
dVUT5j0woWI-00742-00177648-00177923 um in this case our other desires you
dVUT5j0woWI-00743-00177924-00178163 know our lust for for hamburgers that's
dVUT5j0woWI-00744-00178164-00178487 really beautiful analogy because I think
dVUT5j0woWI-00745-00178488-00178745 um many of us tend to see things as as
dVUT5j0woWI-00746-00178746-00178937 black and white there's a binary of
dVUT5j0woWI-00747-00178938-00179254 permitted and commanded versus you know
dVUT5j0woWI-00748-00179255-00179435 forbidden
dVUT5j0woWI-00749-00179436-00179825 um and and immoral but here seems to be
dVUT5j0woWI-00750-00179826-00180011 some balance right you're talking about
dVUT5j0woWI-00751-00180012-00180251 the the balance of of things and and
dVUT5j0woWI-00752-00180252-00180443 your parent's attorney certainly speaks
dVUT5j0woWI-00753-00180444-00180635 to me quite a bit
dVUT5j0woWI-00754-00180636-00180826 um right when it comes to animals right
dVUT5j0woWI-00755-00180827-00181169 it is much easier to treat you know uh
dVUT5j0woWI-00756-00181170-00181385 packaged chicken as an ingredient it is
dVUT5j0woWI-00757-00181386-00181535 much harder to go and Slaughter your
dVUT5j0woWI-00758-00181536-00181726 first bird
dVUT5j0woWI-00759-00181727-00181913 um and possibly this is one one way of
dVUT5j0woWI-00760-00181914-00182033 understanding
dVUT5j0woWI-00761-00182034-00182266 you know why the Torah encodes this
dVUT5j0woWI-00762-00182267-00182561 language of of uh attempted murder
dVUT5j0woWI-00763-00182562-00182890 almost in the Mitzvah of kisoidam
dVUT5j0woWI-00764-00182891-00183125 um is that the Torah is is asking you to
dVUT5j0woWI-00765-00183126-00183473 balance to really important uh
dVUT5j0woWI-00766-00183474-00183676 principles on the one hand you are
dVUT5j0woWI-00767-00183677-00183875 allowed to eat meat it might even be
dVUT5j0woWI-00768-00183876-00184013 right or appropriate and we could
dVUT5j0woWI-00769-00184014-00184157 actually question that a little bit more
dVUT5j0woWI-00770-00184158-00184397 and on the other hand the Torah is
dVUT5j0woWI-00771-00184398-00184559 saying this isn't the same thing as
dVUT5j0woWI-00772-00184560-00184721 grabbing crackers out of your pantry
dVUT5j0woWI-00773-00184722-00185069 right this this is a life and you're
dVUT5j0woWI-00774-00185070-00185416 supposed to be shocked into that when
dVUT5j0woWI-00775-00185417-00185776 you are preparing your meat that's right
dVUT5j0woWI-00776-00185777-00185951 which is a very unusual way of looking
dVUT5j0woWI-00777-00185952-00186190 at Torah Lots right the truth is it's
dVUT5j0woWI-00778-00186191-00186359 not such an unusual way of looking at
dVUT5j0woWI-00779-00186360-00186587 Torah law as Beth and I continued our
dVUT5j0woWI-00780-00186588-00186802 discussion we realized that there are a
dVUT5j0woWI-00781-00186803-00187001 number of Torah laws that are non-ideal
dVUT5j0woWI-00782-00187002-00187187 or sort of a concession to human
dVUT5j0woWI-00783-00187188-00187451 Temptation here we are talking about one
dVUT5j0woWI-00784-00187452-00187607 striking example
dVUT5j0woWI-00785-00187608-00187883 um another example of this right those
dVUT5j0woWI-00786-00187884-00188057 who go to war and you
dVUT5j0woWI-00787-00188058-00188237 you find an attractive woman as a
dVUT5j0woWI-00788-00188238-00188435 soldier and you want to uh you know this
dVUT5j0woWI-00789-00188436-00188590 is a captive and you want to make her
dVUT5j0woWI-00790-00188591-00188825 your wife there's a whole bunch of
dVUT5j0woWI-00791-00188826-00189023 rituals there's like a major cooling off
dVUT5j0woWI-00792-00189024-00189328 period that is seems really designed to
dVUT5j0woWI-00793-00189329-00189616 to have that soldier on the one hand
dVUT5j0woWI-00794-00189617-00189869 feel like yes I you know I can have her
dVUT5j0woWI-00795-00189870-00190133 if I really want her but I've got to go
dVUT5j0woWI-00796-00190134-00190301 about it in this in this way and the
dVUT5j0woWI-00797-00190302-00190451 cooling off period is supposed to make
dVUT5j0woWI-00798-00190452-00190625 you kind of
dVUT5j0woWI-00799-00190626-00190937 um possibly cool off and think better of
dVUT5j0woWI-00800-00190938-00191128 uh of treating someone else that way
dVUT5j0woWI-00801-00191129-00191291 exactly
dVUT5j0woWI-00802-00191292-00191633 [Music]
dVUT5j0woWI-00803-00191634-00191795 so Beth and I are really trying to
dVUT5j0woWI-00804-00191796-00191952 Grapple with this
dVUT5j0woWI-00805-00191953-00192257 answer the fact that eating meat is not
dVUT5j0woWI-00806-00192258-00192593 ideal a concession to human flaws and we
dVUT5j0woWI-00807-00192594-00192761 brought evidence that the Torah in other
dVUT5j0woWI-00808-00192762-00192976 places does in fact seem to give us laws
dVUT5j0woWI-00809-00192977-00193235 that aren't spiritual ideals and nudge
dVUT5j0woWI-00810-00193236-00193469 us toward more proper ways of living
dVUT5j0woWI-00811-00193470-00193613 and it really could be that the
dVUT5j0woWI-00812-00193614-00193840 permission to eat meat and maybe all the
dVUT5j0woWI-00813-00193841-00194333 laws of kosher are about this
dVUT5j0woWI-00814-00194334-00194537 but even with all the evidence we found
dVUT5j0woWI-00815-00194538-00194776 we still haven't explained korba note
dVUT5j0woWI-00816-00194777-00194987 the fact that God himself commands the
dVUT5j0woWI-00817-00194988-00195245 bringing of sacrifices and that was a
dVUT5j0woWI-00818-00195246-00195551 big loose end why would God do that if
dVUT5j0woWI-00819-00195552-00195719 he thought that eating meat was sort of
dVUT5j0woWI-00820-00195720-00196085 shameful so Beth and I kept looking and
dVUT5j0woWI-00821-00196086-00196288 we stumbled on another way of seeing
dVUT5j0woWI-00822-00196289-00196535 things a way of seeing the same evidence
dVUT5j0woWI-00823-00196536-00196702 that we've been talking about up until
dVUT5j0woWI-00824-00196703-00196913 now but arriving at a different
dVUT5j0woWI-00825-00196914-00197171 conclusion one that doesn't involve the
dVUT5j0woWI-00826-00197172-00197452 idea that eating meat is not ideal in
dVUT5j0woWI-00827-00197453-00197663 other words a radically different path
dVUT5j0woWI-00828-00197664-00197933 through everything we've seen so far it
dVUT5j0woWI-00829-00197934-00198113 all began when Beth shared an Insight
dVUT5j0woWI-00830-00198114-00198269 that she had with me
dVUT5j0woWI-00831-00198270-00198695 so when I was researching this piece
dVUT5j0woWI-00832-00198696-00198983 um I was also binge watching a show on
dVUT5j0woWI-00833-00198984-00199169 Netflix called Chef's Table
dVUT5j0woWI-00834-00199170-00199378 um there's an episode and this is years
dVUT5j0woWI-00835-00199379-00199516 ago that I saw it but there's an episode
dVUT5j0woWI-00836-00199517-00199907 about a um an Italian butcher it
dVUT5j0woWI-00837-00199908-00200057 resonated so much with me when I was
dVUT5j0woWI-00838-00200058-00200213 doing this research and at the same time
dVUT5j0woWI-00839-00200214-00200333 that I was watching it because this
dVUT5j0woWI-00840-00200334-00200566 guy's story is that he's born into a
dVUT5j0woWI-00841-00200567-00200771 family of butchers and his family I
dVUT5j0woWI-00842-00200772-00200921 think his father got sick and passed
dVUT5j0woWI-00843-00200922-00201107 away and his his family needs him to
dVUT5j0woWI-00844-00201108-00201328 take over the butcher shop
dVUT5j0woWI-00845-00201329-00201587 um and he can't bring himself to to kill
dVUT5j0woWI-00846-00201588-00201719 an animal
dVUT5j0woWI-00847-00201720-00201935 um it really hurts him and he transcends
dVUT5j0woWI-00848-00201936-00202216 the difficulty but
dVUT5j0woWI-00849-00202217-00202438 the practice that he arrives at it
dVUT5j0woWI-00850-00202439-00202775 becomes of utmost importance to him that
dVUT5j0woWI-00851-00202776-00202937 every single part of the animal gets
dVUT5j0woWI-00852-00202938-00203237 used so he says like every you know it's
dVUT5j0woWI-00853-00203238-00203435 it's still hard you know I'm a butcher
dVUT5j0woWI-00854-00203436-00203621 all day long I do nothing other than
dVUT5j0woWI-00855-00203622-00203909 kill animals that is my job I am in the
dVUT5j0woWI-00856-00203910-00204371 words of Leviticus 17 I am a chauffeur
dVUT5j0woWI-00857-00204372-00204526 um and yet
dVUT5j0woWI-00858-00204527-00204700 um and the way that I figured out how to
dVUT5j0woWI-00859-00204701-00204821 deal with it and how to honor the life
dVUT5j0woWI-00860-00204821-00205036 of the animal is that I will not let a
dVUT5j0woWI-00861-00205037-00205186 single piece of that animal go to waste
dVUT5j0woWI-00862-00205187-00205390 ever and I and all of the the excess
dVUT5j0woWI-00863-00205391-00205564 stuff the Hooves and the whatever else I
dVUT5j0woWI-00864-00205565-00205684 take it home and I cook it and my
dVUT5j0woWI-00865-00205685-00205816 grandmother taught me how to make it
dVUT5j0woWI-00866-00205817-00206032 delicious he says because I grew up and
dVUT5j0woWI-00867-00206033-00206171 I was a butcher's son and we never got
dVUT5j0woWI-00868-00206171-00206314 to eat the steaks we only got to take
dVUT5j0woWI-00869-00206315-00206560 home the like the renty stuff and and
dVUT5j0woWI-00870-00206561-00206764 that's what I feed my family on I
dVUT5j0woWI-00871-00206765-00206951 thought it was so beautiful what do you
dVUT5j0woWI-00872-00206952-00207196 make of that like why why do you think
dVUT5j0woWI-00873-00207198-00207373 um the use of every part of the animal
dVUT5j0woWI-00874-00207373-00207623 feels intuitively like you're honoring
dVUT5j0woWI-00875-00207623-00207725 the animal
dVUT5j0woWI-00876-00207726-00207940 why does that make it better what do you
dVUT5j0woWI-00877-00207941-00208157 think that's a great question
dVUT5j0woWI-00878-00208158-00208342 I don't have a philosophical answer for
dVUT5j0woWI-00879-00208344-00208571 you yet I I am I'm trying to imagine the
dVUT5j0woWI-00880-00208571-00208727 alternative and the alternative is that
dVUT5j0woWI-00881-00208728-00209038 you have all of these animal parts
dVUT5j0woWI-00882-00209039-00209221 that you're just chucking in the garbage
dVUT5j0woWI-00883-00209221-00209598 which sort of feels like the equivalent
dVUT5j0woWI-00884-00209600-00209915 it sort of feels like the same problem
dVUT5j0woWI-00885-00209916-00210215 as a an unburied corpse
dVUT5j0woWI-00886-00210216-00210508 right why is it a problem to not bury a
dVUT5j0woWI-00887-00210509-00210646 corpse and why is it that you you're
dVUT5j0woWI-00888-00210648-00210821 showing honor to a corpse when you bury
dVUT5j0woWI-00889-00210821-00211025 it
dVUT5j0woWI-00890-00211026-00211265 Beth's story from Chef's Table really
dVUT5j0woWI-00891-00211266-00211492 got the wheels in my head turning I
dVUT5j0woWI-00892-00211494-00211637 found it fascinating that this young
dVUT5j0woWI-00893-00211638-00211829 butcher intuited that it's wrong to
dVUT5j0woWI-00894-00211830-00212039 slaughter animals but then he also
dVUT5j0woWI-00895-00212040-00212203 intuited something seemingly
dVUT5j0woWI-00896-00212204-00212477 contradictory that slaughtering animals
dVUT5j0woWI-00897-00212478-00212860 is redeemed if you use the whole animal
dVUT5j0woWI-00898-00212861-00213106 up until now we've seen the Torah as
dVUT5j0woWI-00899-00213107-00213346 presenting us with two choices eating
dVUT5j0woWI-00900-00213348-00213694 meat as a baby a non-ideal situation and
dVUT5j0woWI-00901-00213696-00213941 abstaining from eating meat as the ideal
dVUT5j0woWI-00902-00213942-00214271 but this got me thinking could there be
dVUT5j0woWI-00903-00214271-00214421 a third choice
dVUT5j0woWI-00904-00214421-00214732 eating meat in an ideal way too
dVUT5j0woWI-00905-00214733-00214894 if you treat eating the animal with
dVUT5j0woWI-00906-00214896-00215177 gravity you give it the proper respect
dVUT5j0woWI-00907-00215178-00215369 there's something intuitively right
dVUT5j0woWI-00908-00215369-00215525 about that
dVUT5j0woWI-00909-00215526-00215741 but at this point in our conversation it
dVUT5j0woWI-00910-00215742-00215969 was just an intuition an intriguing
dVUT5j0woWI-00911-00215969-00216263 possibility do we have any evidence
dVUT5j0woWI-00912-00216264-00216508 well when Beth said that not using the
dVUT5j0woWI-00913-00216509-00216706 entire animal felt something like an
dVUT5j0woWI-00914-00216707-00216844 unburied corpse
dVUT5j0woWI-00915-00216846-00217060 she reminded me of something we had been
dVUT5j0woWI-00916-00217061-00217217 talking for most of this episode about
dVUT5j0woWI-00917-00217217-00217619 burying blood in Earth so I asked Beth a
dVUT5j0woWI-00918-00217619-00217708 question
dVUT5j0woWI-00919-00217709-00218032 what is the relationship between man
dVUT5j0woWI-00920-00218033-00218392 their blood and Earth
dVUT5j0woWI-00921-00218394-00218621 um what's the relationship between man
dVUT5j0woWI-00922-00218621-00218908 man's blood and Earth the blood is
dVUT5j0woWI-00923-00218909-00219077 throwing me a little bit emu because I
dVUT5j0woWI-00924-00219078-00219227 usually think of it as being like man's
dVUT5j0woWI-00925-00219228-00219598 flesh but the physical stuff of man for
dVUT5j0woWI-00926-00219600-00219856 that you have to go back to Genesis 2.
dVUT5j0woWI-00927-00219857-00220067 good go back two chapters to the
dVUT5j0woWI-00928-00220067-00220308 creation story
dVUT5j0woWI-00929-00220309-00220691 specifically uh verse 7
dVUT5j0woWI-00930-00220692-00221015 oh I forgot about that yeah good what
dVUT5j0woWI-00931-00221016-00221146 did you just forget about what did you
dVUT5j0woWI-00932-00221148-00221260 just notice
dVUT5j0woWI-00933-00221261-00221489 Ah that's fun
dVUT5j0woWI-00934-00221490-00221729 um a farm in hadama
dVUT5j0woWI-00935-00221730-00222046 uh what does that mean it means that
dVUT5j0woWI-00936-00222048-00222382 um God used a single ingredient in order
dVUT5j0woWI-00937-00222383-00222658 to build the body of man and that
dVUT5j0woWI-00938-00222659-00222929 ingredient is afar dust from the earth
dVUT5j0woWI-00939-00222930-00223163 and why is that far significant in our
dVUT5j0woWI-00940-00223164-00223319 investigation here
dVUT5j0woWI-00941-00223319-00223487 because
dVUT5j0woWI-00942-00223488-00223715 um in the law in Leviticus you're
dVUT5j0woWI-00943-00223716-00224044 supposed to cover up the blood in dust
dVUT5j0woWI-00944-00224046-00224477 the very dust from which Man was created
dVUT5j0woWI-00945-00224478-00224837 that's right right and and so let's play
dVUT5j0woWI-00946-00224838-00225023 with some pieces here right what is the
dVUT5j0woWI-00947-00225023-00225251 relationship between Humanity
dVUT5j0woWI-00948-00225252-00225742 and Earth if men has been formed out of
dVUT5j0woWI-00949-00225744-00225827 the Earth
dVUT5j0woWI-00950-00225828-00226060 what does that make earth so we would
dVUT5j0woWI-00951-00226061-00226355 say that Earth is the parent yeah of man
dVUT5j0woWI-00952-00226356-00226582 and right it's it's more than just the
dVUT5j0woWI-00953-00226583-00226732 fact that this verse describes how we
dVUT5j0woWI-00954-00226733-00227008 were made of the earth look at that word
dVUT5j0woWI-00955-00227009-00227398 right Adam in the same verse it's sort
dVUT5j0woWI-00956-00227400-00227567 of like Adam's name is nothing other
dVUT5j0woWI-00957-00227567-00227819 than Earthling right we're used to Adam
dVUT5j0woWI-00958-00227819-00228041 the name but the name for Humanity
dVUT5j0woWI-00959-00228042-00228292 in the Torah is essentially Earthling
dVUT5j0woWI-00960-00228294-00228448 now you said something really
dVUT5j0woWI-00961-00228450-00228575 interesting I asked you what is the
dVUT5j0woWI-00962-00228576-00228821 relationship between man blood and the
dVUT5j0woWI-00963-00228821-00228994 Earth but once we're playing word games
dVUT5j0woWI-00964-00228996-00229282 what is the word for blood in Hebrew
dVUT5j0woWI-00965-00229283-00229432 whoa
dVUT5j0woWI-00966-00229433-00229775 the word in Hebrew for blood is damn
dVUT5j0woWI-00967-00229776-00229967 it's blood right and the reason that's
dVUT5j0woWI-00968-00229967-00230563 cool is because there's a pyramid here
dVUT5j0woWI-00969-00230564-00230951 that's right Don is inside uh Adam and
dVUT5j0woWI-00970-00230952-00231196 Adam is inside Adama right
dVUT5j0woWI-00971-00231198-00231413 so the dam the blood our life force
dVUT5j0woWI-00972-00231414-00231653 right is probably the most earthy part
dVUT5j0woWI-00973-00231654-00231742 of us
dVUT5j0woWI-00974-00231744-00232019 um maybe or it's in Us in the same way
dVUT5j0woWI-00975-00232019-00232384 that we are of of Earth so if we are of
dVUT5j0woWI-00976-00232385-00232637 the earth then when you are done you
dVUT5j0woWI-00977-00232638-00232842 return to the Earth
dVUT5j0woWI-00978-00232844-00233356 so remember when I asked you I said why
dVUT5j0woWI-00979-00233357-00233741 um does it feel uh like like a way of
dVUT5j0woWI-00980-00233742-00233891 dealing with the animal of honoring it
dVUT5j0woWI-00981-00233892-00234119 properly is to consume all of it right
dVUT5j0woWI-00982-00234119-00234310 and and you said you know what it feels
dVUT5j0woWI-00983-00234311-00234467 to me like a corpse that hasn't been
dVUT5j0woWI-00984-00234467-00234581 buried
dVUT5j0woWI-00985-00234582-00234784 let's so let's talk about that example A
dVUT5j0woWI-00986-00234785-00235019 corpse that is buried I see where you're
dVUT5j0woWI-00987-00235019-00235163 going with this what does it mean to
dVUT5j0woWI-00988-00235164-00235434 bury a corpse it means that you are
dVUT5j0woWI-00989-00235435-00235727 returning the Adam to the Adama you were
dVUT5j0woWI-00990-00235728-00235973 going home get this spiritual homecoming
dVUT5j0woWI-00991-00235973-00236110 to return
dVUT5j0woWI-00992-00236111-00236308 a body to the Earth
dVUT5j0woWI-00993-00236309-00236560 our relationship to the world around us
dVUT5j0woWI-00994-00236561-00236884 is not a utilitarian relationship where
dVUT5j0woWI-00995-00236885-00237137 God created a lot of ingredients for us
dVUT5j0woWI-00996-00237138-00237442 to enjoy it seems like the world we're
dVUT5j0woWI-00997-00237444-00237779 created in is a symbiotic world right
dVUT5j0woWI-00998-00237780-00237994 where everything feeds everything else
dVUT5j0woWI-00999-00237996-00238294 we are of the earth and when we die we
dVUT5j0woWI-01000-00238296-00238565 return to the Earth and just
dVUT5j0woWI-01001-00238566-00238865 scientifically our bodies decompose and
dVUT5j0woWI-01002-00238866-00239027 there's all sorts of good nutrients in
dVUT5j0woWI-01003-00239028-00239279 there that promotes New Life
dVUT5j0woWI-01004-00239280-00239434 mm-hmm
dVUT5j0woWI-01005-00239435-00239855 so it is respectful it is symbiotic so
dVUT5j0woWI-01006-00239856-00240232 when a a person eats an animal and only
dVUT5j0woWI-01007-00240233-00240592 uses some of it and discards the rest at
dVUT5j0woWI-01008-00240594-00240851 least my understanding of that is
dVUT5j0woWI-01009-00240852-00241127 if a person uses all pieces of the
dVUT5j0woWI-01010-00241128-00241271 animal what they're saying is they
dVUT5j0woWI-01011-00241271-00241523 recognize that they're in a symbiotic
dVUT5j0woWI-01012-00241523-00241673 relationship with this animal they're
dVUT5j0woWI-01013-00241673-00241853 not in an ingredient relationship with
dVUT5j0woWI-01014-00241854-00242092 this animal right this is another life
dVUT5j0woWI-01015-00242094-00242260 that I'm in a symbiotic relationship
dVUT5j0woWI-01016-00242261-00242639 with and so I will honor it in as much
dVUT5j0woWI-01017-00242640-00242903 as we're we're cousins or or we're both
dVUT5j0woWI-01018-00242904-00243125 here to sustain one another I will you
dVUT5j0woWI-01019-00243126-00243527 know uh honor and and treat every
dVUT5j0woWI-01020-00243528-00243784 um every bit of this animal with the
dVUT5j0woWI-01021-00243785-00244006 respective Destiny which is saying all
dVUT5j0woWI-01022-00244007-00244217 of you is important all of you will be
dVUT5j0woWI-01023-00244217-00244444 used symbiotically
dVUT5j0woWI-01024-00244446-00244505 um
dVUT5j0woWI-01025-00244506-00244715 as opposed to just using some of it and
dVUT5j0woWI-01026-00244716-00244973 discarding the rest it treats it with
dVUT5j0woWI-01027-00244973-00245206 respect to give every piece of this
dVUT5j0woWI-01028-00245207-00245356 animal purpose
dVUT5j0woWI-01029-00245357-00245548 um that that was my my intuition at
dVUT5j0woWI-01030-00245550-00245765 least philosophically but it was really
dVUT5j0woWI-01031-00245766-00246010 fascinating to see how you compared that
dVUT5j0woWI-01032-00246011-00246317 to a corpse that isn't buried
dVUT5j0woWI-01033-00246317-00246598 yeah but I'll tell you where where I'm
dVUT5j0woWI-01034-00246600-00246737 going with this
dVUT5j0woWI-01035-00246738-00247067 is we started our conversation today
dVUT5j0woWI-01036-00247067-00247306 with the idea of like look you want to
dVUT5j0woWI-01037-00247307-00247558 be a jerk and kill an animal well you
dVUT5j0woWI-01038-00247559-00247667 need to face the fact that you're a
dVUT5j0woWI-01039-00247667-00247955 murderer right like that's half the
dVUT5j0woWI-01040-00247956-00248177 story the other half the story seems to
dVUT5j0woWI-01041-00248178-00248267 be
dVUT5j0woWI-01042-00248267-00248458 you know what if you want to kill this
dVUT5j0woWI-01043-00248459-00248632 animal then you at least need to
dVUT5j0woWI-01044-00248633-00248855 recognize your common source you need to
dVUT5j0woWI-01045-00248856-00249058 give the animal dignity you need to
dVUT5j0woWI-01046-00249059-00249292 restore the blood to the Earth if you
dVUT5j0woWI-01047-00249294-00249515 are eating the animal and pouring the
dVUT5j0woWI-01048-00249516-00249767 blood onto the Earth purposefully maybe
dVUT5j0woWI-01049-00249767-00250096 there is something elevated about that
dVUT5j0woWI-01050-00250098-00250169 um
dVUT5j0woWI-01051-00250169-00250408 that's a really interesting it does seem
dVUT5j0woWI-01052-00250409-00250660 that the permission is is much more
dVUT5j0woWI-01053-00250661-00250877 full-throated then I might have at first
dVUT5j0woWI-01054-00250878-00250955 thought
dVUT5j0woWI-01055-00250956-00251171 something that you go about in in a
dVUT5j0woWI-01056-00251171-00251521 Torah way in a in a holy way
dVUT5j0woWI-01057-00251523-00251860 [Music]
dVUT5j0woWI-01058-00251861-00252010 for most of our journey we've been
dVUT5j0woWI-01059-00252011-00252179 reacting to the language of murder in
dVUT5j0woWI-01060-00252180-00252448 Leviticus 17 and exploring why the laws
dVUT5j0woWI-01061-00252450-00252641 of covering blood seem to imply that
dVUT5j0woWI-01062-00252642-00252898 eating meat is sort of shameful
dVUT5j0woWI-01063-00252900-00253121 and what we just saw is that the idea of
dVUT5j0woWI-01064-00253121-00253367 covering Dam with afar covering blood
dVUT5j0woWI-01065-00253367-00253637 with Earth doesn't only evoke covering
dVUT5j0woWI-01066-00253638-00253829 up a crime as described in the sale of
dVUT5j0woWI-01067-00253830-00254194 Yosef it also evokes Genesis 2 and the
dVUT5j0woWI-01068-00254196-00254477 creation of man and animal both of whom
dVUT5j0woWI-01069-00254478-00254963 were formed of the Earth
dVUT5j0woWI-01070-00254964-00255179 and that that seems to point to our
dVUT5j0woWI-01071-00255180-00255437 symbiotic connection a circle of life
dVUT5j0woWI-01072-00255438-00255827 between man animal and Earth and the
dVUT5j0woWI-01073-00255828-00256067 blood that connects all three
dVUT5j0woWI-01074-00256067-00256294 this second set of textual links gives
dVUT5j0woWI-01075-00256296-00256492 us a new perspective on the mixed
dVUT5j0woWI-01076-00256494-00256708 messages we're getting in the Torah and
dVUT5j0woWI-01077-00256709-00256901 with this new perspective in mind we
dVUT5j0woWI-01078-00256902-00257129 decided to go back to the Noah story to
dVUT5j0woWI-01079-00257130-00257315 the moment God decides to change his
dVUT5j0woWI-01080-00257316-00257603 mind and let a previously vegan Humanity
dVUT5j0woWI-01081-00257604-00257765 eat animals
dVUT5j0woWI-01082-00257766-00258017 if eating meat is or at least can be
dVUT5j0woWI-01083-00258017-00258155 ideal somehow
dVUT5j0woWI-01084-00258156-00258382 then maybe there's something we missed
dVUT5j0woWI-01085-00258383-00258539 so we decided to look at the verses
dVUT5j0woWI-01086-00258540-00258742 right before God gives Humanity
dVUT5j0woWI-01087-00258744-00258887 permission to eat animals for some
dVUT5j0woWI-01088-00258888-00259180 context and I noticed something
dVUT5j0woWI-01089-00259181-00259421 so the the verse where God says that
dVUT5j0woWI-01090-00259421-00259648 he's not going to change the world
dVUT5j0woWI-01091-00259650-00259841 anymore he's not gonna change the
dVUT5j0woWI-01092-00259842-00260219 seasons that verse begins God smelled a
dVUT5j0woWI-01093-00260219-00260489 pleasing flavor
dVUT5j0woWI-01094-00260490-00260675 um and what is God smelling he's
dVUT5j0woWI-01095-00260676-00260813 smelling what happens in the previous
dVUT5j0woWI-01096-00260814-00261055 verse which is
dVUT5j0woWI-01097-00261056-00261460 he builds an altar to God he takes the
dVUT5j0woWI-01098-00261461-00261760 pure animals and the pure Birds
dVUT5j0woWI-01099-00261761-00262096 and he offers them as olot as a a
dVUT5j0woWI-01100-00262098-00262241 sacrifice I think what's really
dVUT5j0woWI-01101-00262242-00262445 interesting here is something we miss
dVUT5j0woWI-01102-00262446-00262673 which is that the reason it seems or
dVUT5j0woWI-01103-00262674-00263008 that least the the trigger for Why God
dVUT5j0woWI-01104-00263009-00263225 declares that he's not going to uh
dVUT5j0woWI-01105-00263226-00263458 change the seasons anymore is that he
dVUT5j0woWI-01106-00263459-00263813 smells the sacrifices of Noah
dVUT5j0woWI-01107-00263814-00264065 and before the laws change around
dVUT5j0woWI-01108-00264066-00264353 whether you can or can't eat meat Noah
dVUT5j0woWI-01109-00264354-00264575 has this intuition of bringing these
dVUT5j0woWI-01110-00264576-00264791 sacrifices to God and it's pleasing to
dVUT5j0woWI-01111-00264792-00265030 God if God is the consummate vegan maybe
dVUT5j0woWI-01112-00265031-00265175 he would be really upset about
dVUT5j0woWI-01113-00265176-00265445 sacrifices this is disgusting to me
dVUT5j0woWI-01114-00265446-00265727 maybe but that's not God's reaction to
dVUT5j0woWI-01115-00265728-00265913 sacrifices ever it seems to be there is
dVUT5j0woWI-01116-00265914-00266275 a proper and pleasing way this is
dVUT5j0woWI-01117-00266276-00266567 a good way to use animals and so
dVUT5j0woWI-01118-00266568-00266891 immediately God says to Noah okay the
dVUT5j0woWI-01119-00266892-00267089 animals are yours up until now we had
dVUT5j0woWI-01120-00267090-00267269 seen God's changing of his mind and
dVUT5j0woWI-01121-00267270-00267443 giving Humanity permission to eat meat
dVUT5j0woWI-01122-00267444-00267658 as part and parcel with God's decision
dVUT5j0woWI-01123-00267659-00267958 to rebuild a less sensitive post-flood
dVUT5j0woWI-01124-00267959-00268330 world we live in a bad world so we can
dVUT5j0woWI-01125-00268331-00268510 do biddy-evid things
dVUT5j0woWI-01126-00268511-00268756 but as we read the text closely we're
dVUT5j0woWI-01127-00268757-00269008 seeing that that's not the whole story
dVUT5j0woWI-01128-00269009-00269291 Noah was inspired to offer sacrifices
dVUT5j0woWI-01129-00269292-00269687 and somehow God found that pleasing this
dVUT5j0woWI-01130-00269688-00269867 was a way to use animals that wasn't
dVUT5j0woWI-01131-00269868-00270293 just allowed but good and ideal
dVUT5j0woWI-01132-00270294-00270503 what is it about sacrifices that makes
dVUT5j0woWI-01133-00270504-00270706 them different I'm just speculating here
dVUT5j0woWI-01134-00270707-00270923 but a theme we keep seeing again and
dVUT5j0woWI-01135-00270924-00271177 again is recognition of source
dVUT5j0woWI-01136-00271178-00271427 understanding where this animal comes
dVUT5j0woWI-01137-00271428-00271517 from
dVUT5j0woWI-01138-00271518-00271775 so maybe you either recognize the Earth
dVUT5j0woWI-01139-00271776-00271943 from which man and animals both come
dVUT5j0woWI-01140-00271944-00272137 from and pour the blood onto the Earth
dVUT5j0woWI-01141-00272138-00272495 or you're recognizing God the source of
dVUT5j0woWI-01142-00272496-00272837 all by using an animal in a sacrifice
dVUT5j0woWI-01143-00272838-00273034 something about living in the world in a
dVUT5j0woWI-01144-00273035-00273263 symbiotic way where you use the world
dVUT5j0woWI-01145-00273264-00273497 not as an over consumer or over
dVUT5j0woWI-01146-00273498-00273730 Dominator but as someone who recognizes
dVUT5j0woWI-01147-00273731-00273995 and appreciates the source of all things
dVUT5j0woWI-01148-00273996-00274223 it seems that something about that is an
dVUT5j0woWI-01149-00274224-00274499 ideal and an elevated way to live and
dVUT5j0woWI-01150-00274500-00274787 consume meat
dVUT5j0woWI-01151-00274788-00274960 so we've got these two pretty different
dVUT5j0woWI-01152-00274961-00275158 ways of seeing how the Torah wants us to
dVUT5j0woWI-01153-00275159-00275369 relate to eating meat what do we do with
dVUT5j0woWI-01154-00275370-00275555 that that's what Beth and I talk about
dVUT5j0woWI-01155-00275556-00275769 in the last part of our conversation
dVUT5j0woWI-01156-00275770-00276077 [Music]
dVUT5j0woWI-01157-00276078-00276317 um and I think we we settled with two
dVUT5j0woWI-01158-00276318-00276767 really good answers here as to you know
dVUT5j0woWI-01159-00276768-00276989 does the Torah want us to be eating meat
dVUT5j0woWI-01160-00276990-00277169 and and how should we feel about it
dVUT5j0woWI-01161-00277170-00277397 right so one of our answers is that
dVUT5j0woWI-01162-00277398-00277589 there's an ideal which is not to eat
dVUT5j0woWI-01163-00277590-00277841 meat and there's a non-ideal which is to
dVUT5j0woWI-01164-00277842-00278003 eat meat and to pour the blood in the
dVUT5j0woWI-01165-00278004-00278225 ground and to to confront the crime as
dVUT5j0woWI-01166-00278226-00278506 it were and I think like if that's the
dVUT5j0woWI-01167-00278507-00278608 answer there are many different
dVUT5j0woWI-01168-00278609-00278830 implications for your daily life it
dVUT5j0woWI-01169-00278831-00278939 could be that if you're working on
dVUT5j0woWI-01170-00278940-00279082 yourself if you're trying to be a better
dVUT5j0woWI-01171-00279083-00279515 Jew then maybe it's best to go vegan
dVUT5j0woWI-01172-00279516-00279760 um so that's one answer and there's a
dVUT5j0woWI-01173-00279761-00279965 second answer which is that no there is
dVUT5j0woWI-01174-00279966-00280217 an ideal way to eat meat there's an
dVUT5j0woWI-01175-00280218-00280432 ideal way to recognize source which has
dVUT5j0woWI-01176-00280433-00280595 its own implications
dVUT5j0woWI-01177-00280596-00280943 but what I kind of want our listeners to
dVUT5j0woWI-01178-00280944-00281260 feel is the permission to choose you
dVUT5j0woWI-01179-00281261-00281453 know that which is most compelling to
dVUT5j0woWI-01180-00281454-00281645 them and I think that which is most
dVUT5j0woWI-01181-00281646-00281903 compelling to them is is key here right
dVUT5j0woWI-01182-00281904-00282137 not that which is the most desirous not
dVUT5j0woWI-01183-00282138-00282443 that which is uh most fun but you know
dVUT5j0woWI-01184-00282444-00282791 having seen this journey in Torah right
dVUT5j0woWI-01185-00282792-00282982 I don't know what God wants of us all
dVUT5j0woWI-01186-00282983-00283115 we're doing is looking at the evidence
dVUT5j0woWI-01187-00283116-00283408 and we reach two possible compelling
dVUT5j0woWI-01188-00283409-00283699 conclusions so I hope that our listeners
dVUT5j0woWI-01189-00283700-00284206 feel a pull towards one one or the other
dVUT5j0woWI-01190-00284207-00284501 okay so I I appreciate that
dVUT5j0woWI-01191-00284502-00284723 um which one are you choosing yeah so
dVUT5j0woWI-01192-00284724-00284932 for me I'm I'm in Camp second answer
dVUT5j0woWI-01193-00284933-00285341 right I think uh I think that you know
dVUT5j0woWI-01194-00285342-00285784 there is an ideal way to eat meat it
dVUT5j0woWI-01195-00285785-00286067 feels uh it feels right especially
dVUT5j0woWI-01196-00286068-00286223 having seen what we talked about in
dVUT5j0woWI-01197-00286224-00286517 Chef's Table having seen
dVUT5j0woWI-01198-00286518-00286756 um why God changes his mind with Noah on
dVUT5j0woWI-01199-00286757-00287027 that other context that there's a
dVUT5j0woWI-01200-00287028-00287284 it just feels to me more compelling to
dVUT5j0woWI-01201-00287285-00287537 say that God didn't like make an entire
dVUT5j0woWI-01202-00287538-00287813 Enterprise of sacrifices purely as a
dVUT5j0woWI-01203-00287814-00287980 concession and I'm aware that maimonides
dVUT5j0woWI-01204-00287981-00288269 rambam uh actually does believe that but
dVUT5j0woWI-01205-00288270-00288539 to me it's it's hard to believe that so
dVUT5j0woWI-01206-00288540-00288845 much of the ritual of Judaism is just a
dVUT5j0woWI-01207-00288846-00289163 concession to to humanity it makes more
dVUT5j0woWI-01208-00289164-00289469 sense to me that in general and that so
dVUT5j0woWI-01209-00289470-00289684 much of meets vote men in general is
dVUT5j0woWI-01210-00289685-00290015 being told to appreciate the source of
dVUT5j0woWI-01211-00290016-00290237 his food whether that source is trees
dVUT5j0woWI-01212-00290238-00290434 where I think it's readily apparent when
dVUT5j0woWI-01213-00290435-00290627 you pluck a fruit off of a tree where
dVUT5j0woWI-01214-00290628-00290782 you know what its sources it comes from
dVUT5j0woWI-01215-00290783-00290927 this tree it comes from the earth it
dVUT5j0woWI-01216-00290928-00291089 comes directly from God
dVUT5j0woWI-01217-00291090-00291491 whether it's bread which is sort of this
dVUT5j0woWI-01218-00291492-00291773 pulverized grass and when we say this
dVUT5j0woWI-01219-00291774-00292139 absurd bracha hamots God who brings
dVUT5j0woWI-01220-00292140-00292373 bread from the earth and I say it's
dVUT5j0woWI-01221-00292374-00292529 absurd because bread doesn't grow from
dVUT5j0woWI-01222-00292530-00292721 the earth you actually make it into
dVUT5j0woWI-01223-00292722-00292889 bread but there's a reason why we say
dVUT5j0woWI-01224-00292890-00293129 that bracha that blessing it's to remind
dVUT5j0woWI-01225-00293130-00293315 us that this thing that has been
dVUT5j0woWI-01226-00293316-00293543 processed and created by humans is
dVUT5j0woWI-01227-00293544-00293806 really its source derives from God
dVUT5j0woWI-01228-00293807-00294130 so to me the eating of meat kind of fits
dVUT5j0woWI-01229-00294131-00294443 into that it's just an appreciation that
dVUT5j0woWI-01230-00294444-00294808 this life you know came from this common
dVUT5j0woWI-01231-00294809-00295049 source it came from the earth and when
dVUT5j0woWI-01232-00295050-00295271 we eat when we take that animal's life
dVUT5j0woWI-01233-00295272-00295541 you honor you respect its life and you
dVUT5j0woWI-01234-00295542-00295823 pour the blood back to our common source
dVUT5j0woWI-01235-00295824-00295984 and you appreciate and recognize where
dVUT5j0woWI-01236-00295985-00296129 it comes from
dVUT5j0woWI-01237-00296130-00296284 so you
dVUT5j0woWI-01238-00296285-00296530 you're telling me that you're in in Camp
dVUT5j0woWI-01239-00296531-00296753 number two I'm really intrigued by Camp
dVUT5j0woWI-01240-00296754-00297017 too I am um I I'd like to go to Camp too
dVUT5j0woWI-01241-00297018-00297232 for a half session
dVUT5j0woWI-01242-00297233-00297484 um I no I I think I'm leaning more
dVUT5j0woWI-01243-00297485-00297634 towards Camp one and I'm not even going
dVUT5j0woWI-01244-00297635-00297803 to speak to you about arguments because
dVUT5j0woWI-01245-00297804-00297989 the arguments that you made
dVUT5j0woWI-01246-00297990-00298247 um are are really intriguing
dVUT5j0woWI-01247-00298248-00298391 um how do I put this
dVUT5j0woWI-01248-00298392-00298582 like I I
dVUT5j0woWI-01249-00298583-00298829 um I want to be able to keep eating meat
dVUT5j0woWI-01250-00298830-00299021 because it's delicious and I'm a little
dVUT5j0woWI-01251-00299022-00299405 bit skeptical of an answer that um finds
dVUT5j0woWI-01252-00299406-00299675 a way to to permit it right
dVUT5j0woWI-01253-00299676-00299921 um you're saying that like we
dVUT5j0woWI-01254-00299922-00300167 you know as scholarly as we are we also
dVUT5j0woWI-01255-00300168-00300419 have desires yeah
dVUT5j0woWI-01256-00300420-00300653 that augments or scholarship it's hard
dVUT5j0woWI-01257-00300654-00300941 to trust that that I'm reading the texts
dVUT5j0woWI-01258-00300942-00301139 and writing arriving at an answer in an
dVUT5j0woWI-01259-00301140-00301451 objective way with with Integrity
dVUT5j0woWI-01260-00301452-00301606 um when I know what I want the answer to
dVUT5j0woWI-01261-00301607-00301810 be when I have a you know a stake in it
dVUT5j0woWI-01262-00301811-00302015 but I but I also I I think I might be
dVUT5j0woWI-01263-00302016-00302255 over compensating right
dVUT5j0woWI-01264-00302256-00302380 um
dVUT5j0woWI-01265-00302381-00302699 but I I don't I guess it comes down to
dVUT5j0woWI-01266-00302700-00302884 this question of
dVUT5j0woWI-01267-00302885-00303089 like you seemed to think that it was
dVUT5j0woWI-01268-00303090-00303229 ultimately
dVUT5j0woWI-01269-00303230-00303551 unsatisfying or ultimately uncompelling
dVUT5j0woWI-01270-00303552-00303919 to say that God that God is is is
dVUT5j0woWI-01271-00303920-00304145 permitting something which is not ideal
dVUT5j0woWI-01272-00304146-00304553 but you also we furnished you know great
dVUT5j0woWI-01273-00304554-00304745 examples of others other other
dVUT5j0woWI-01274-00304746-00305008 situations in which that's the case so I
dVUT5j0woWI-01275-00305009-00305260 felt like we did that work and um I'm
dVUT5j0woWI-01276-00305261-00305482 not ready to write it off just yet
dVUT5j0woWI-01277-00305483-00305693 yeah I think for me
dVUT5j0woWI-01278-00305694-00306082 um one thing is clear you know according
dVUT5j0woWI-01279-00306083-00306304 to both of us right whether whether you
dVUT5j0woWI-01280-00306305-00306623 believe meat is uh really ideally
dVUT5j0woWI-01281-00306624-00306797 forbidden or whether there's an ideal
dVUT5j0woWI-01282-00306798-00307091 way to eat meat there is commonality
dVUT5j0woWI-01283-00307092-00307241 between our approaches which is that
dVUT5j0woWI-01284-00307242-00307517 like you cannot go on cavalierly eating
dVUT5j0woWI-01285-00307518-00307715 meat you're taking a life
dVUT5j0woWI-01286-00307716-00307994 slow down yeah
dVUT5j0woWI-01287-00307995-00308939 [Music]
dVUT5j0woWI-01288-00308940-00309269 thank you
dVUT5j0woWI-01289-00309270-00309575 so that's it this was our journey
dVUT5j0woWI-01290-00309576-00309767 through the Torah text to understand the
dVUT5j0woWI-01291-00309768-00310025 Bedrock of castras as it were whether
dVUT5j0woWI-01292-00310026-00310258 and how we can eat meat turned out we're
dVUT5j0woWI-01293-00310259-00310493 allowed to eat meat but there's a lot of
dVUT5j0woWI-01294-00310494-00310691 context for that permission and that
dVUT5j0woWI-01295-00310692-00310954 context is Rich and meaningful
dVUT5j0woWI-01296-00310955-00311201 that meaning infuses the rituals we
dVUT5j0woWI-01297-00311202-00311387 spoke about today the rituals of
dVUT5j0woWI-01298-00311388-00311608 Slaughter and of kisui dam and it turns
dVUT5j0woWI-01299-00311609-00311867 the very Act of eating meat into a
dVUT5j0woWI-01300-00311868-00312137 mindful act something not to be taken
dVUT5j0woWI-01301-00312138-00312460 lightly something to engage in with
dVUT5j0woWI-01302-00312461-00312929 respect for the animal and its source
dVUT5j0woWI-01303-00312930-00313145 and some things we haven't talked about
dVUT5j0woWI-01304-00313146-00313289 yet that we'll be getting to in later
dVUT5j0woWI-01305-00313290-00313510 episodes like why can't we mix milk and
dVUT5j0woWI-01306-00313511-00313739 meat together and why are some animals
dVUT5j0woWI-01307-00313740-00314069 kosher and others not it turns out the
dVUT5j0woWI-01308-00314070-00314219 framework we laid out today will be
dVUT5j0woWI-01309-00314220-00314399 helpful in understanding the answer to
dVUT5j0woWI-01310-00314400-00314573 those questions too
dVUT5j0woWI-01311-00314574-00314782 stay tuned for those and for further
dVUT5j0woWI-01312-00314783-00315031 episodes of meaningful Judaism
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dVUT5j0woWI-01320-00317561-00317849 this episode was recorded by IMO and
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dVUT5j0woWI-01331-00320187-00320251 [Music]
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dbVRKWkY_Ng-00001-00001282-00001534 tonight is our first night here in
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00002-00001535-00001813 Taiwan and finally gonna check out a
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00003-00001814-00001978 night market we've all wanted to do this
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00004-00001979-00002188 ever since we booked our trip here so
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00005-00002189-00003447 we're gonna go to Ningxia lay market so
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00006-00003447-00003672 let's see what we can find out there
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00007-00003673-00004011 muscle meat some oyster omelets maybe
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00008-00004013-00004354 some stinky tofu maybe not let's see
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00009-00004355-00004645 what they have excited starving ready to
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00010-00004646-00005802 go let's do it
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00011-00005803-00007335 [Music]
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00012-00007336-00007570 we're hoping to try a lot of different
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00013-00007572-00008031 things here
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00014-00008033-00009091 [Music]
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00015-00009092-00009308 the first we're driving into the stall
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00016-00009309-00009566 by seeing up some squid what we kept
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00017-00009567-00009833 seeing the woman weak all whole squid
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00018-00009834-00010073 and fried fresh have to everybody was
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00019-00010074-00010220 order and to look amazing smelled
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00020-00010221-00010442 amazing that's exactly what we got
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00021-00010443-00010763 so it's all chopped up one woman show
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00022-00010764-00010922 she just pumping these things out just
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00023-00010923-00011132 getting Bowl swish throwing them in the
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00024-00011133-00011408 oil or battering them ok gets the whole
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00025-00011409-00011600 squid battered her edges and throws them
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00026-00011601-00011674 in the oil
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00027-00011675-00011936 airs about afterwards and then brings
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00028-00011937-00012158 off to the front chops it up throw the
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00029-00012159-00012368 spices on so let's check it out really
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00030-00012369-00012620 meaty not overly crispy is really meaty
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00031-00012621-00013077 this is overly ready
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00032-00013078-00014360 [Music]
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00033-00014361-00014790 out here grilled Angus beef actually
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00034-00014791-00015138 blowtorch the to order and add in any
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00035-00015138-00015344 spice you want and of course we rounded
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00036-00015346-00015675 by the human-to-human fanatics and you
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00037-00015676-00015957 can smell all the Cuban here
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00038-00015958-00017272 [Music]
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00039-00017273-00017629 Wow for to see the beam
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00040-00017630-00018592 a lot human on there
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00041-00018593-00019126 Angus be honest
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00042-00019127-00019912 how's that
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00043-00019913-00020272 very unique yeah he doused it with cumin
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00044-00020273-00020377 which I was very happy about
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00045-00020378-00021102 [Music]
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00047-00024274-00024534 the very laborious process of the girl
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00048-00024535-00024798 Outland to make it the super fresh he
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00049-00024799-00025208 rolled out the dough threw it in the oil
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00050-00025209-00025430 who some basil leaves on top and then it
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00051-00025431-00025799 was egg mixture pour it on there too
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00053-00030001-00030795 the sky pancake
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00054-00030797-00031139 very Airy
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00055-00031139-00032177 those sweet spicy sauces appear
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00056-00032179-00033740 [Music]
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00057-00033741-00033979 how's that pickles
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00058-00033980-00034365 deep-fried arrow pick pickled egg good
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00059-00034366-00034585 that joke doesn't taste that picture not
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00060-00034586-00034865 really tangy guys not that tangy it's
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00061-00034866-00035133 like
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00062-00035134-00035418 you get the earthy soft dairy and egg
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00063-00035419-00036020 flavors then it's ro sray this week
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00064-00036021-00036379 now subject the pickle part these little
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00065-00036380-00036777 shreds
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00066-00036778-00038389 [Music]
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00067-00038390-00040220 they look like they're having a to die
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00068-00040221-00040620 it's very worthy such an interesting
dbVRKWkY_Ng-00069-00040621-00040830 flavor yeah ever heard of a license
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depshWo0wG4-00000-00000200-00000455 we are live welcome to moon night
depshWo0wG4-00001-00000456-00000599 episode 4
depshWo0wG4-00002-00000600-00000831 thoughts this episode is called
depshWo0wG4-00003-00000832-00001062 the tomb
depshWo0wG4-00004-00001063-00001335 i love that the camera starts upside
depshWo0wG4-00005-00001336-00001543 down gradually turns to right side up in
depshWo0wG4-00006-00001544-00001759 the first shot of the episode
depshWo0wG4-00007-00001760-00001967 leila getting a chance to shine
depshWo0wG4-00008-00001968-00002110 she chooses to go with stealth then
depshWo0wG4-00009-00002111-00002367 triggery it's super effective
depshWo0wG4-00010-00002368-00002671 very good really attack guru
depshWo0wG4-00011-00002672-00002847 gorilla tactic
depshWo0wG4-00012-00002848-00003039 she blows up their bullets with a flare
depshWo0wG4-00013-00003040-00003142 clever
depshWo0wG4-00014-00003143-00003390 not sure i love that one insert shot of
depshWo0wG4-00015-00003392-00003606 the bullets to indicate that she decided
depshWo0wG4-00016-00003607-00003775 she was going to use that against them i
depshWo0wG4-00017-00003776-00003967 get what they're going for i think there
depshWo0wG4-00018-00003968-00004095 should have been a little bit more
depshWo0wG4-00019-00004096-00004327 connective tissue
depshWo0wG4-00020-00004328-00004631 or none at all
depshWo0wG4-00021-00004632-00004886 what
depshWo0wG4-00022-00004887-00005006 you guys made a deal that he would
depshWo0wG4-00023-00005007-00005167 disappear from my life
depshWo0wG4-00024-00005168-00005343 and you didn't think i should have been
depshWo0wG4-00025-00005344-00005486 made aware of that
depshWo0wG4-00026-00005487-00005831 she makes a good point
depshWo0wG4-00027-00005832-00005975 i really appreciate that mark is
depshWo0wG4-00028-00005976-00006151 concerned about layla he's not whining
depshWo0wG4-00029-00006152-00006286 about how it's unfair to him that
depshWo0wG4-00030-00006287-00006495 stephen is in control he just wants her
depshWo0wG4-00031-00006495-00006831 to be safe
depshWo0wG4-00032-00006831-00007023 if i need a recipe for a protein shake
depshWo0wG4-00033-00007023-00007287 or something i'll call you metabolism
depshWo0wG4-00034-00007288-00007574 burn
depshWo0wG4-00035-00007575-00007863 and layla almost kisses steven but for
depshWo0wG4-00036-00007864-00008031 she can he tells her the mark is trying
depshWo0wG4-00037-00008031-00008207 to protect her
depshWo0wG4-00038-00008208-00008367 not because he doesn't want to kill kiss
depshWo0wG4-00039-00008368-00008463 her
depshWo0wG4-00040-00008464-00008742 but because he feels it's unfair to keep
depshWo0wG4-00041-00008743-00009078 the truth from her excellent acting
depshWo0wG4-00042-00009079-00009223 and then they do kiss and one of the
depshWo0wG4-00043-00009224-00009535 alters punches stephen
depshWo0wG4-00044-00009536-00010046 yeah mark would be upset
depshWo0wG4-00045-00010047-00010335 her final avatar was a pharaoh
depshWo0wG4-00046-00010336-00010559 for a little bit there i thought the
depshWo0wG4-00047-00010560-00010735 that theory about the time traveling
depshWo0wG4-00048-00010736-00010959 kang pharaoh might be right
depshWo0wG4-00049-00010960-00011151 it's too bad we did i mean there's no
depshWo0wG4-00050-00011152-00011351 way that alexander the great was a time
depshWo0wG4-00051-00011352-00011887 traveling cane
depshWo0wG4-00052-00011888-00012031 it's not fresh blood
depshWo0wG4-00053-00012032-00012270 chunky meaty bits
depshWo0wG4-00054-00012271-00012446 so that's pretty intense i guess they're
depshWo0wG4-00055-00012447-00012606 seeing how far they can push it for
depshWo0wG4-00056-00012607-00012927 deadpool
depshWo0wG4-00057-00012928-00013166 what are they shooting at hide yeah good
depshWo0wG4-00058-00013168-00013319 call that sounds like a stealth level to
depshWo0wG4-00059-00013319-00013558 me
depshWo0wG4-00060-00013559-00013927 so that zombie priest chittering
depshWo0wG4-00061-00013928-00014158 sonar thing is removing the organs of
depshWo0wG4-00062-00014159-00014311 the guy
depshWo0wG4-00063-00014312-00014671 who either only just died seconds ago or
depshWo0wG4-00064-00014672-00014879 is still alive did we see him die for
depshWo0wG4-00065-00014880-00015094 sure like we see his his face and his
depshWo0wG4-00066-00015095-00015238 eyes are moving
depshWo0wG4-00067-00015240-00015463 and then i i'm not sure we saw them stop
depshWo0wG4-00068-00015463-00015647 moving so there's some chance this is a
depshWo0wG4-00069-00015647-00015871 vivisection forget deadpool i think
depshWo0wG4-00070-00015872-00016015 they're working the way up to a remake
depshWo0wG4-00071-00016016-00016366 of the thing
depshWo0wG4-00072-00016368-00016527 i asked for another supernatural
depshWo0wG4-00073-00016528-00016711 creature rather than another jackal i'm
depshWo0wG4-00074-00016712-00016855 extremely happy i did that because that
depshWo0wG4-00075-00016856-00017471 blue thing is awesome super creepy
depshWo0wG4-00076-00017472-00017575 steven
depshWo0wG4-00077-00017576-00017743 if you're done with the thing remake by
depshWo0wG4-00078-00017744-00017919 way of the flying remake can i interest
depshWo0wG4-00079-00017920-00018175 you in a remake of the cave
depshWo0wG4-00080-00018176-00018407 and layla moves throughout the cave and
depshWo0wG4-00081-00018408-00018767 a hand gropes out at her
depshWo0wG4-00082-00018768-00019014 and leela gets pulled layla gets pulled
depshWo0wG4-00083-00019015-00019230 back away from the camera which is i
depshWo0wG4-00084-00019231-00019375 think at this point her signature move
depshWo0wG4-00085-00019376-00019527 up never mind her signature move is
depshWo0wG4-00086-00019528-00019686 defeating overwhelming odds with
depshWo0wG4-00087-00019687-00019919 appropriate use of flares
depshWo0wG4-00088-00019920-00020143 is that why lara craft always brings
depshWo0wG4-00089-00020144-00020422 flares to to shove into the eye socket
depshWo0wG4-00090-00020423-00020647 of creatures
depshWo0wG4-00091-00020648-00020775 i think i would have liked those games
depshWo0wG4-00092-00020776-00020958 more if you if you could do those games
depshWo0wG4-00093-00020959-00021239 are fun i'm just kidding
depshWo0wG4-00094-00021240-00021471 and marcus angry with stephen for the
depshWo0wG4-00095-00021472-00021655 kiss but he does appreciate that steven
depshWo0wG4-00096-00021656-00022527 told the truth to layla
depshWo0wG4-00097-00022528-00022678 he never told you the truth about your
depshWo0wG4-00098-00022679-00022983 father he told me enough he told me he
depshWo0wG4-00099-00022984-00023143 died
depshWo0wG4-00100-00023144-00023278 no
depshWo0wG4-00101-00023279-00023447 i am definitely not your father that
depshWo0wG4-00102-00023448-00023775 would make absolutely no sense
depshWo0wG4-00103-00023776-00024007 seriously arthur knows just what to say
depshWo0wG4-00104-00024008-00024214 to manipulate people he's really really
depshWo0wG4-00105-00024215-00024350 good at that
depshWo0wG4-00106-00024351-00024663 so go ahead the floor is yours
depshWo0wG4-00107-00024664-00024799 the five percent of the floor that
depshWo0wG4-00108-00024800-00025007 remained yes i realized that
depshWo0wG4-00109-00025008-00025167 the episode was probably already making
depshWo0wG4-00110-00025168-00025486 that joke visually
depshWo0wG4-00111-00025487-00025870 sorry mr the great
depshWo0wG4-00112-00025872-00026158 and stephen opens mr the great's mouth
depshWo0wG4-00113-00026160-00026279 if there's a silver tongue in there
depshWo0wG4-00114-00026280-00026807 that's really gonna crack me up
depshWo0wG4-00115-00026808-00027031 arthur does know a lot of details about
depshWo0wG4-00116-00027032-00027318 layla's father and their relationship
depshWo0wG4-00117-00027319-00027446 are you done
depshWo0wG4-00118-00027447-00027590 that just doesn't have the same effect
depshWo0wG4-00119-00027591-00027718 if it's not coming from a teacher who
depshWo0wG4-00120-00027719-00028062 recently cut a finger off a student
depshWo0wG4-00121-00028063-00028358 and you sharpty goes to us
depshWo0wG4-00122-00028360-00028687 can you hear me alexander god i hope not
depshWo0wG4-00123-00028688-00028879 i mean that does bring up like this is
depshWo0wG4-00124-00028880-00029095 this is a show where
depshWo0wG4-00125-00029095-00029383 living things that are trapped can hear
depshWo0wG4-00126-00029383-00029655 so it's yeah
depshWo0wG4-00127-00029656-00029831 yeah sometimes steven's not the the
depshWo0wG4-00128-00029832-00029999 brightest bulb
depshWo0wG4-00129-00030000-00030327 in the
depshWo0wG4-00130-00030327-00030679 cutlery
depshWo0wG4-00131-00030680-00030823 thing
depshWo0wG4-00132-00030824-00030951 yeah i was trying to go for a mixed
depshWo0wG4-00133-00030952-00031279 metaphor
depshWo0wG4-00134-00031280-00031462 mark insists that he didn't kill her
depshWo0wG4-00135-00031463-00031695 father which i guess
depshWo0wG4-00136-00031695-00031887 maybe means jake some some people are
depshWo0wG4-00137-00031888-00032031 saying
depshWo0wG4-00138-00032032-00032327 that it could be
depshWo0wG4-00139-00032327-00032511 my partner got greedy and executed
depshWo0wG4-00140-00032512-00032711 everyone at the gravesite some people
depshWo0wG4-00141-00032712-00032831 are saying that
depshWo0wG4-00142-00032832-00033231 his partner could be jake
depshWo0wG4-00143-00033232-00033455 you know after all there are stories
depshWo0wG4-00144-00033456-00033559 where
depshWo0wG4-00145-00033560-00034031 someone
depshWo0wG4-00146-00034032-00034367 tries to to kill one of their
depshWo0wG4-00147-00034368-00034774 additional personalities
depshWo0wG4-00148-00034775-00035031 and layla blames mark for bringing a
depshWo0wG4-00149-00035032-00035287 killer to her father
depshWo0wG4-00150-00035288-00035455 that's the reason we met you just had a
depshWo0wG4-00151-00035456-00035615 guilty conscience
depshWo0wG4-00152-00035616-00035799 if the mcu shows keep this up they're
depshWo0wG4-00153-00035800-00035974 eventually gonna have enough for group
depshWo0wG4-00154-00035975-00036895 therapy first bucky now mark
depshWo0wG4-00155-00036896-00037095 and
depshWo0wG4-00156-00037096-00037495 arthur arrives with a dozen armed men
depshWo0wG4-00157-00037496-00037671 arthur tells mark about when the moon
depshWo0wG4-00158-00037672-00037951 god stopped talking to him
depshWo0wG4-00159-00037952-00038143 really great scenes
depshWo0wG4-00160-00038144-00038335 badass mark manages to take out three
depshWo0wG4-00161-00038336-00038551 guys with the axe thing but then arthur
depshWo0wG4-00162-00038552-00038662 shoots him
depshWo0wG4-00163-00038663-00038790 i do appreciate it's not one of those
depshWo0wG4-00164-00038791-00038959 scenes where he somehow manages to take
depshWo0wG4-00165-00038960-00039167 out a ridiculous amount
depshWo0wG4-00166-00039168-00039335 i mean he could as moon knight but he
depshWo0wG4-00167-00039336-00039735 can't as just mark spectre
depshWo0wG4-00168-00039736-00039887 i can't save anyone who won't save
depshWo0wG4-00169-00039888-00040367 themselves okay zoidberg
depshWo0wG4-00170-00040368-00040590 and mark disappears into the sunken
depshWo0wG4-00171-00040591-00040871 place
depshWo0wG4-00172-00040872-00041046 and
depshWo0wG4-00173-00041047-00041183 doctor steve you know we're now an
depshWo0wG4-00174-00041184-00041343 institution doctor stephen is a
depshWo0wG4-00175-00041344-00041535 character in an
depshWo0wG4-00176-00041536-00041695 in a you know
depshWo0wG4-00177-00041696-00042158 very low budget indiana jones rip-off
depshWo0wG4-00178-00042159-00042271 mark and layla are both in the
depshWo0wG4-00179-00042272-00042487 institution layla cares about bingo so
depshWo0wG4-00180-00042488-00042711 she clearly isn't herself
depshWo0wG4-00181-00042712-00042887 i guess maybe it's supposed to be that
depshWo0wG4-00182-00042888-00043151 that's what they really get into instead
depshWo0wG4-00183-00043152-00043430 of archaeology
depshWo0wG4-00184-00043431-00043662 and mark looks at his reflection hoping
depshWo0wG4-00185-00043663-00043983 it's stephen
depshWo0wG4-00186-00043984-00044174 and you know the reflection does move
depshWo0wG4-00187-00044175-00044407 and we later see that's probably because
depshWo0wG4-00188-00044408-00044639 he's in the institution elsewhere
depshWo0wG4-00189-00044640-00044783 falls over his foot attached to the
depshWo0wG4-00190-00044784-00044943 wheelchair and he was holding a moon
depshWo0wG4-00191-00044944-00045399 knight toy which apparently was like
depshWo0wG4-00192-00045400-00045518 what's it called
depshWo0wG4-00193-00045519-00045783 someone said that was a
depshWo0wG4-00194-00045784-00045958 skeletor
depshWo0wG4-00195-00045959-00046679 toy and i could see that yeah
depshWo0wG4-00196-00046680-00046823 so this is supposed to explain that
depshWo0wG4-00197-00046824-00046999 everything leading up to this was all in
depshWo0wG4-00198-00047000-00047143 his head which is something that the
depshWo0wG4-00199-00047144-00047399 comics toy with
depshWo0wG4-00200-00047400-00047590 and the movie's called tomb buster so
depshWo0wG4-00201-00047591-00047774 it's like an asylum remake of tomb
depshWo0wG4-00202-00047775-00047911 raider
depshWo0wG4-00203-00047912-00048174 i see what you did there marvel
depshWo0wG4-00204-00048175-00048567 and arthur is working at the institution
depshWo0wG4-00205-00048568-00048783 remember you're only sedated because of
depshWo0wG4-00206-00048784-00048943 your own behavior
depshWo0wG4-00207-00048944-00049143 you blew up my call
depshWo0wG4-00208-00049144-00049439 i really love that car
depshWo0wG4-00209-00049440-00049607 arthur still has the judging cane but it
depshWo0wG4-00210-00049608-00049839 looks slightly different and his office
depshWo0wG4-00211-00049840-00050127 someone pointed out it looks like
depshWo0wG4-00212-00050128-00050415 the place where the cult was living
depshWo0wG4-00213-00050416-00050662 but only like painted white
depshWo0wG4-00214-00050663-00051350 which you know institution color
depshWo0wG4-00215-00051351-00051479 i should probably not say anything
depshWo0wG4-00216-00051479-00051735 negative about white walls since i have
depshWo0wG4-00217-00051736-00051942 them myself and they're clearly visible
depshWo0wG4-00218-00051944-00052063 in this show no i'm not i'm not saying
depshWo0wG4-00219-00052064-00052254 anything negative it's
depshWo0wG4-00220-00052255-00052342 i
depshWo0wG4-00221-00052344-00052599 i read it's like a calming color and
depshWo0wG4-00222-00052600-00052871 that's why they use it in institutions
depshWo0wG4-00223-00052872-00053119 and that makes a lot of sense
depshWo0wG4-00224-00053120-00053335 you want to eliminate
depshWo0wG4-00225-00053336-00053654 anything that could upset
depshWo0wG4-00226-00053655-00053807 patients and
depshWo0wG4-00227-00053808-00054063 yeah
depshWo0wG4-00228-00054064-00054230 i can't help you if you don't if you
depshWo0wG4-00229-00054232-00054511 won't help yourself
depshWo0wG4-00230-00054512-00054711 and a lot of egyptian artifacts in
depshWo0wG4-00231-00054712-00054894 arthur's office which is also supposed
depshWo0wG4-00232-00054895-00055175 to help explain how he
depshWo0wG4-00233-00055176-00055382 came up with these
depshWo0wG4-00234-00055383-00055607 fantasies
depshWo0wG4-00235-00055608-00055775 and mark breaks the window but the two
depshWo0wG4-00236-00055776-00056007 cops are now orderlies yes i realized we
depshWo0wG4-00237-00056008-00056207 saw them earlier in the test this was
depshWo0wG4-00238-00056208-00056454 where i happened to mention
depshWo0wG4-00239-00056455-00056671 steven was in a sarcophagus and we get
depshWo0wG4-00240-00056672-00056847 the parent trap shot of both of them
depshWo0wG4-00241-00056848-00057030 next to each other facing each other but
depshWo0wG4-00242-00057032-00057230 since technology has greatly advanced
depshWo0wG4-00243-00057232-00057526 it's not just a split screen
depshWo0wG4-00244-00057527-00057679 i love that despite its appearance the
depshWo0wG4-00245-00057679-00057935 big hippo god has a normal voice
depshWo0wG4-00246-00057936-00058230 and mark and steven both scream
depshWo0wG4-00247-00058232-00058415 considering the diet of actual hippos i
depshWo0wG4-00248-00058416-00058559 sure hope that's not a hungry hungry
depshWo0wG4-00249-00058560-00059094 hippo
depshWo0wG4-00250-00059095-00059319 you know if the mummy remake had been
depshWo0wG4-00251-00059320-00059503 handled more like this episode i think
depshWo0wG4-00252-00059504-00059654 the dark universe
depshWo0wG4-00253-00059655-00059871 may have actually lasted at least a
depshWo0wG4-00254-00059872-00060206 little bit longer
depshWo0wG4-00255-00060207-00060359 and some people think that the
depshWo0wG4-00256-00060360-00060599 institution is actually in the over
depshWo0wG4-00257-00060600-00060711 over
depshWo0wG4-00258-00060712-00060830 void
depshWo0wG4-00259-00060832-00060999 not a word i'm
depshWo0wG4-00260-00061000-00061142 used to saying so it's going to take a
depshWo0wG4-00261-00061144-00061238 little
depshWo0wG4-00262-00061239-00061454 practice where the gods reside which
depshWo0wG4-00263-00061455-00061679 would explain the hippo god just walking
depshWo0wG4-00264-00061679-00061966 around like that this is the first time
depshWo0wG4-00265-00061967-00062150 that we have seen
depshWo0wG4-00266-00062151-00062263 someone
depshWo0wG4-00267-00062264-00062494 we've seen one of the gods just
depshWo0wG4-00268-00062495-00062630 like
depshWo0wG4-00269-00062632-00062950 normally in this show's universe
depshWo0wG4-00270-00062951-00063271 the god is only visible to its avatar
depshWo0wG4-00271-00063272-00063447 and i'm almost certain you can't
depshWo0wG4-00272-00063448-00063638 accidentally be an avatar because you
depshWo0wG4-00273-00063639-00064054 have to agree to be an avatar or be
depshWo0wG4-00274-00064055-00064366 par be a member of the same you know be
depshWo0wG4-00275-00064367-00064454 a
depshWo0wG4-00276-00064455-00064663 separate identity in the same body as
depshWo0wG4-00277-00064664-00064894 someone who agreed mark specifically
depshWo0wG4-00278-00064895-00065166 agreed and arthur agreed before him you
depshWo0wG4-00279-00065167-00065415 know so there's no way that they could
depshWo0wG4-00280-00065416-00065623 accidentally be i want to say her name
depshWo0wG4-00281-00065624-00065855 is towerette
depshWo0wG4-00282-00065856-00066438 you know her yeah
depshWo0wG4-00283-00066439-00066631 and now that we've heard two different
depshWo0wG4-00284-00066632-00067135 gods speak we know that like
depshWo0wG4-00285-00067136-00067215 when
depshWo0wG4-00286-00067216-00067311 like
depshWo0wG4-00287-00067312-00067423 you know it's it's
depshWo0wG4-00288-00067424-00067575 abraham's voice
depshWo0wG4-00289-00067576-00067735 for konshu
depshWo0wG4-00290-00067736-00067950 so he's either like try hard really
depshWo0wG4-00291-00067951-00068047 trying to
depshWo0wG4-00292-00068048-00068247 sound tough
depshWo0wG4-00293-00068248-00068399 or you know it's possible it's just his
depshWo0wG4-00294-00068400-00068575 normal voice
depshWo0wG4-00295-00068576-00068855 but like other gods like
depshWo0wG4-00296-00068856-00069103 she sounds like a young woman you know i
depshWo0wG4-00297-00069104-00069406 i would like maybe in her 20s or 30s
depshWo0wG4-00298-00069407-00069599 like she has a very chipper voice she
depshWo0wG4-00299-00069600-00069743 like
depshWo0wG4-00300-00069744-00069975 you know it i just yeah i i like that
depshWo0wG4-00301-00069976-00070279 it's apparently you know the gods are
depshWo0wG4-00302-00070280-00070463 completely different
depshWo0wG4-00303-00070464-00070663 ages and and like and she's way less
depshWo0wG4-00304-00070664-00071111 aggressive than like kanshu is always
depshWo0wG4-00305-00071112-00071335 you know he's he's uh like
depshWo0wG4-00306-00071336-00071599 what is it homer simpson says about god
depshWo0wG4-00307-00071600-00071855 he's always mad you know and
depshWo0wG4-00308-00071856-00072150 yeah so i i appreciate that just
depshWo0wG4-00309-00072151-00072406 and and you know she smiles with her
depshWo0wG4-00310-00072407-00072615 with her hippo teeth and and like the
depshWo0wG4-00311-00072616-00072879 ears make a little movement and just
depshWo0wG4-00312-00072880-00073150 yeah
depshWo0wG4-00313-00073151-00073471 now i think it was the ign review that
depshWo0wG4-00314-00073472-00073655 said they knew the audience wouldn't
depshWo0wG4-00315-00073656-00073799 believe that everything was all in
depshWo0wG4-00316-00073800-00073967 steven's head so before the episode is
depshWo0wG4-00317-00073968-00074167 over they do reveal there is clearly
depshWo0wG4-00318-00074168-00074575 something else going on wisely so
depshWo0wG4-00319-00074576-00074787 yeah i i would definitely say like let's
depshWo0wG4-00320-00074788-00075087 hypothetically say
depshWo0wG4-00321-00075088-00075319 they could basically have chosen to end
depshWo0wG4-00322-00075320-00075471 this episode
depshWo0wG4-00323-00075472-00075791 before mark breaks the window or maybe
depshWo0wG4-00324-00075792-00075967 when the orderly show up and grab him
depshWo0wG4-00325-00075968-00076206 first you know it could just cut their
depshWo0wG4-00326-00076207-00076391 credits and then we
depshWo0wG4-00327-00076392-00076526 we don't see
depshWo0wG4-00328-00076527-00076719 you know
depshWo0wG4-00329-00076720-00076975 but instead you know he he manages to
depshWo0wG4-00330-00076976-00077135 get away from them he gets out in the
depshWo0wG4-00331-00077136-00077494 hallway and like things like turn
depshWo0wG4-00332-00077495-00077726 slightly there you know they don't go
depshWo0wG4-00333-00077727-00077950 from like the vertical doesn't become
depshWo0wG4-00334-00077951-00078319 the horizontal
depshWo0wG4-00335-00078320-00078655 but it does tilt a little bit you know
depshWo0wG4-00336-00078656-00078903 so okay there's something else going on
depshWo0wG4-00337-00078904-00079287 clearly this is not
depshWo0wG4-00338-00079288-00079367 yeah
depshWo0wG4-00339-00079368-00079655 and you know then the sarcophagus guy i
depshWo0wG4-00340-00079656-00080006 think is the plural of that
depshWo0wG4-00341-00080007-00080143 yeah
depshWo0wG4-00342-00080144-00080423 i think i could be wrong and the the you
depshWo0wG4-00343-00080424-00080782 know first first one sarcophagus with
depshWo0wG4-00344-00080783-00080991 stephen inside and the other one was
depshWo0wG4-00345-00080992-00081143 shaking violently a lot of people think
depshWo0wG4-00346-00081144-00081455 that might be jake in there which how
depshWo0wG4-00347-00081456-00081703 did they manage to convey
depshWo0wG4-00348-00081704-00081959 you know okay this this one sarcophagus
depshWo0wG4-00349-00081960-00082126 shake you know that's that's fine that's
depshWo0wG4-00350-00082127-00082406 someone harmless basically and this
depshWo0wG4-00351-00082407-00082543 other one a wolf
depshWo0wG4-00352-00082544-00082862 there's someone violent in that shaking
depshWo0wG4-00353-00082863-00083055 sarcophagus like
depshWo0wG4-00354-00083056-00083318 but yeah with with with good filmmaking
depshWo0wG4-00355-00083319-00083431 that's how
depshWo0wG4-00356-00083432-00083671 but but yeah i think there's a there's a
depshWo0wG4-00357-00083672-00084023 pretty good chance of that and yeah the
depshWo0wG4-00358-00084024-00084182 you know we we've yet to find out if
depshWo0wG4-00359-00084183-00084423 tawaret was like looking for them or is
depshWo0wG4-00360-00084424-00084735 just happy to meet them or something but
depshWo0wG4-00361-00084736-00084855 certainly
depshWo0wG4-00362-00084856-00085062 she moved with purpose
depshWo0wG4-00363-00085063-00085231 you know she wasn't just standing around
depshWo0wG4-00364-00085232-00085359 she was like
depshWo0wG4-00365-00085360-00085582 marching down the the hole and then
depshWo0wG4-00366-00085583-00085726 opens the doors
depshWo0wG4-00367-00085727-00085967 and is definitely happy to see them
depshWo0wG4-00368-00085968-00086231 that's not you know that's not the face
depshWo0wG4-00369-00086232-00086318 voice
depshWo0wG4-00370-00086319-00086479 or
depshWo0wG4-00371-00086480-00086767 general body language of someone who's
depshWo0wG4-00372-00086768-00086975 about to like or unless they're a really
depshWo0wG4-00373-00086976-00087247 good liar i guess but yeah it seems like
depshWo0wG4-00374-00087248-00087471 she's going to to help them in in some
depshWo0wG4-00375-00087472-00087606 way and
depshWo0wG4-00376-00087607-00087862 yeah
depshWo0wG4-00377-00087863-00088126 yeah really excited to see what happens
depshWo0wG4-00378-00088127-00088318 next
depshWo0wG4-00379-00088319-00088591 you know there's so there's two episodes
depshWo0wG4-00380-00088592-00088894 left yeah two two more episodes
depshWo0wG4-00381-00088895-00089159 i am really really excited to to find
depshWo0wG4-00382-00089160-00089287 out what
depshWo0wG4-00383-00089288-00089511 happens
depshWo0wG4-00384-00089512-00089679 yeah
depshWo0wG4-00385-00089680-00089991 i forget
depshWo0wG4-00386-00089992-00090255 yeah i i want to say it was nerd soup
depshWo0wG4-00387-00090256-00090526 who said something like that they really
depshWo0wG4-00388-00090527-00090662 thought it would
depshWo0wG4-00389-00090663-00090823 did i already say did i say that in the
depshWo0wG4-00390-00090824-00091006 last
depshWo0wG4-00391-00091007-00091271 i'll let i won't spend forever finding
depshWo0wG4-00392-00091272-00091367 out but
depshWo0wG4-00393-00091368-00091591 i'm just gonna
depshWo0wG4-00394-00091592-00092055 see if
depshWo0wG4-00395-00092056-00092262 um or were they saying it about this
depshWo0wG4-00396-00092263-00092591 episode anyway nerdsoup said that
depshWo0wG4-00397-00092592-00092711 they're really hoping that the show
depshWo0wG4-00398-00092712-00093047 wouldn't just end with ahmed vs the rest
depshWo0wG4-00399-00093048-00093350 of the gods in a big cgi battle i agree
depshWo0wG4-00400-00093351-00093559 that would be really
depshWo0wG4-00401-00093560-00093887 a let down after all this buildup but
depshWo0wG4-00402-00093888-00094150 yeah uh fingers crossed that that's not
depshWo0wG4-00403-00094151-00094318 gonna happen
depshWo0wG4-00404-00094319-00094494 and
depshWo0wG4-00405-00094495-00094694 yeah i
depshWo0wG4-00406-00094695-00094855 it was it was a really great twist this
depshWo0wG4-00407-00094856-00095055 is as far as i understand this was the
depshWo0wG4-00408-00095056-00095182 episode
depshWo0wG4-00409-00095183-00095415 you know the first four episodes were
depshWo0wG4-00410-00095416-00095711 previewed early for critics
depshWo0wG4-00411-00095712-00095894 this is the last thing that the critics
depshWo0wG4-00412-00095895-00095991 saw
depshWo0wG4-00413-00095992-00096126 so
depshWo0wG4-00414-00096127-00096311 yeah i can understand you know several
depshWo0wG4-00415-00096312-00096438 of them mentioned you know there's going
depshWo0wG4-00416-00096439-00096615 to be a really big
depshWo0wG4-00417-00096616-00097006 a cliffhanger in in episode four and
depshWo0wG4-00418-00097007-00097271 yeah it's it's really cool like i kind
depshWo0wG4-00419-00097272-00097431 of felt like they moved a little bit
depshWo0wG4-00420-00097432-00097735 away from the total recall feel
depshWo0wG4-00421-00097736-00098111 that i want to say maybe sean chandler
depshWo0wG4-00422-00098112-00098367 talks movies i think is his channel name
depshWo0wG4-00423-00098368-00098535 the the
depshWo0wG4-00424-00098536-00098759 you know he described it when he had
depshWo0wG4-00425-00098760-00099055 watched these four episodes
depshWo0wG4-00426-00099056-00099174 and
depshWo0wG4-00427-00099175-00099255 you know
depshWo0wG4-00428-00099256-00099406 yeah for the the first episode i
depshWo0wG4-00429-00099407-00099591 definitely see it you know suddenly
depshWo0wG4-00430-00099592-00099774 stephen wakes up in bed and he's like oh
depshWo0wG4-00431-00099775-00099918 wow i guess
depshWo0wG4-00432-00099919-00100047 i was
depshWo0wG4-00433-00100048-00100271 very vivid dream but okay and then he
depshWo0wG4-00434-00100272-00100471 realizes he lost two days and we come to
depshWo0wG4-00435-00100472-00100647 realize no no all that stuff actually
depshWo0wG4-00436-00100648-00100791 happened
depshWo0wG4-00437-00100792-00100882 and then
depshWo0wG4-00438-00100883-00101247 like yeah the episode before this one
depshWo0wG4-00439-00101248-00101335 didn't
depshWo0wG4-00440-00101336-00101679 like it
depshWo0wG4-00441-00101680-00101862 i would say episode three we basically
depshWo0wG4-00442-00101863-00102118 accepted no what's what we're seeing is
depshWo0wG4-00443-00102119-00102343 actually happening
depshWo0wG4-00444-00102344-00102502 but then this
depshWo0wG4-00445-00102503-00102734 ending you know clearly there is
depshWo0wG4-00446-00102735-00102918 something like we can't
depshWo0wG4-00447-00102919-00103102 we can't trust everything we see for
depshWo0wG4-00448-00103103-00103271 sure
depshWo0wG4-00449-00103272-00103502 you know but yeah
depshWo0wG4-00450-00103503-00103654 really really excited to see where they
depshWo0wG4-00451-00103655-00103863 go from here
depshWo0wG4-00452-00103864-00103951 yeah
depshWo0wG4-00453-00103952-00104388 so i will catch you next week
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dg2N-OUwMmo-00000-00002624-00002742 sorry
dg2N-OUwMmo-00001-00002743-00002910 good evening everyone and welcome to
dg2N-OUwMmo-00002-00002911-00003063 tonight's uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-00003-00003064-00003175 infrastructure safety and growth
dg2N-OUwMmo-00004-00003176-00003390 scrutiny committee um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00005-00003392-00003631 first item are apologies
dg2N-OUwMmo-00006-00003632-00003990 um i've received apologies from
dg2N-OUwMmo-00007-00003992-00004151 council michelle cook councillor ben
dg2N-OUwMmo-00008-00004152-00004391 price and i think council sarah daniels
dg2N-OUwMmo-00009-00004392-00004615 has submitted apologies as well other
dg2N-OUwMmo-00010-00004616-00004791 than that i think we're a full full
dg2N-OUwMmo-00011-00004792-00005143 house any other apologies from anybody
dg2N-OUwMmo-00012-00005144-00005295 excellent
dg2N-OUwMmo-00013-00005296-00005575 uh item two are the minutes of the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00014-00005576-00005838 meeting of the 24th of march
dg2N-OUwMmo-00015-00005839-00006015 um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00016-00006016-00006375 can we have a mover
dg2N-OUwMmo-00017-00006376-00006631 thank you richard and a second john
dg2N-OUwMmo-00018-00006631-00006887 thank you very much uh all those in
dg2N-OUwMmo-00019-00006888-00007310 favor
dg2N-OUwMmo-00020-00007311-00007606 excellent thank you and moved
dg2N-OUwMmo-00021-00007608-00007727 um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00022-00007728-00008087 item three are declarations of interest
dg2N-OUwMmo-00023-00008088-00008214 um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00024-00008215-00008446 i have none to declare does does anybody
dg2N-OUwMmo-00025-00008447-00008671 else
dg2N-OUwMmo-00026-00008672-00008878 nope excellent
dg2N-OUwMmo-00027-00008879-00009206 item four is uh update from me um the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00028-00009207-00009495 only uh item i've got is that there will
dg2N-OUwMmo-00029-00009496-00009783 be um an additional meeting which is
dg2N-OUwMmo-00030-00009784-00010055 scheduled for the 23rd of august
dg2N-OUwMmo-00031-00010056-00010319 this is to
dg2N-OUwMmo-00032-00010320-00010646 get the local plan review in um prior to
dg2N-OUwMmo-00033-00010647-00010774 it going through
dg2N-OUwMmo-00034-00010775-00011031 uh cabinet process
dg2N-OUwMmo-00035-00011032-00011351 and it was just felt that
dg2N-OUwMmo-00036-00011352-00011623 to give us opportunity on on scrutiny to
dg2N-OUwMmo-00037-00011624-00011855 look at it we needed an extra meeting so
dg2N-OUwMmo-00038-00011856-00012006 that's that's that's the only thing i've
dg2N-OUwMmo-00039-00012007-00012287 note i've i've got
dg2N-OUwMmo-00040-00012288-00012567 so item five are responses to reports of
dg2N-OUwMmo-00041-00012568-00012695 infrastructure safety and growth
dg2N-OUwMmo-00042-00012696-00012830 scrutiny committee there's nothing
dg2N-OUwMmo-00043-00012831-00012943 expected
dg2N-OUwMmo-00044-00012944-00013079 from that
dg2N-OUwMmo-00045-00013080-00013191 um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00046-00013191-00013383 item six our consideration of matters
dg2N-OUwMmo-00047-00013384-00013503 referred to
dg2N-OUwMmo-00048-00013504-00013711 infrastructure safety and growth from
dg2N-OUwMmo-00049-00013712-00013927 cabinet and council and there's no new
dg2N-OUwMmo-00050-00013928-00014222 items that i'm aware of
dg2N-OUwMmo-00051-00014223-00014319 so
dg2N-OUwMmo-00052-00014319-00014622 we'll move on to item seven which is the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00053-00014623-00014783 dry recycling
dg2N-OUwMmo-00054-00014784-00015143 contract update so i'm going to
dg2N-OUwMmo-00055-00015144-00015350 hand over to well i'll just give a
dg2N-OUwMmo-00056-00015351-00015566 little bit of a briefing that we've this
dg2N-OUwMmo-00057-00015568-00015783 is something that we we agreed to look
dg2N-OUwMmo-00058-00015784-00016055 at on a on a sort of quarterly basis
dg2N-OUwMmo-00059-00016056-00016207 and that was back
dg2N-OUwMmo-00060-00016208-00016543 maybe 12 months ago actually um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00061-00016544-00016807 so we we've had a number of number of
dg2N-OUwMmo-00062-00016808-00017063 updates um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00063-00017064-00017199 and tonight we have another one so i'm
dg2N-OUwMmo-00064-00017200-00017447 going to hand over to uh council doyle
dg2N-OUwMmo-00065-00017448-00017743 um to to introduce if that's if that's
dg2N-OUwMmo-00066-00017744-00017950 okay and we've got obviously andrew
dg2N-OUwMmo-00067-00017951-00018150 barrett um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00068-00018151-00018375 ben percival and nigeria from the from
dg2N-OUwMmo-00069-00018376-00018958 the joint uh waste service so steve
dg2N-OUwMmo-00070-00018959-00019103 i think after that introduction there's
dg2N-OUwMmo-00071-00019104-00019535 not a fat lot for me to say is that
dg2N-OUwMmo-00072-00019536-00019686 there's so you've been presented with
dg2N-OUwMmo-00073-00019687-00020022 some figures and some information
dg2N-OUwMmo-00074-00020023-00020279 the main stakeholders are here with us
dg2N-OUwMmo-00075-00020280-00020439 now so if there's any questions you want
dg2N-OUwMmo-00076-00020440-00020567 to ask
dg2N-OUwMmo-00077-00020568-00020620 thank you
dg2N-OUwMmo-00078-00020621-00020999 [Music]
dg2N-OUwMmo-00079-00021000-00021167 thanks steve i don't know andre if you
dg2N-OUwMmo-00080-00021168-00021350 want to just uh do it do any
dg2N-OUwMmo-00081-00021351-00021471 introduction
dg2N-OUwMmo-00082-00021472-00021678 yeah i think shops just like to invite
dg2N-OUwMmo-00083-00021679-00021991 um either ben or nigel just to take us
dg2N-OUwMmo-00084-00021992-00022175 take members through the briefing notes
dg2N-OUwMmo-00085-00022176-00022430 um expand on areas that need to be and
dg2N-OUwMmo-00086-00022431-00022511 then
dg2N-OUwMmo-00087-00022512-00022663 take any questions arising from the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00088-00022664-00022830 committee if that's okay
dg2N-OUwMmo-00089-00022831-00023094 thank you thank you andrew yes so uh so
dg2N-OUwMmo-00090-00023095-00023447 ben or nigel
dg2N-OUwMmo-00091-00023448-00023799 thanks chair um so yeah as you say this
dg2N-OUwMmo-00092-00023800-00023999 has been a an item that's come to
dg2N-OUwMmo-00093-00024000-00024207 scrutiny regularly over the last 12
dg2N-OUwMmo-00094-00024208-00024519 months and this is the first briefing
dg2N-OUwMmo-00095-00024520-00024703 post the implementation of the new
dg2N-OUwMmo-00096-00024704-00024814 service
dg2N-OUwMmo-00097-00024815-00025167 so the implementation commenced on the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00098-00025168-00025327 2nd of may
dg2N-OUwMmo-00099-00025328-00025614 and the implementation completed on the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00100-00025616-00025790 30th of may so it's a month-long
dg2N-OUwMmo-00101-00025791-00025934 implementation
dg2N-OUwMmo-00102-00025935-00026167 and it's fair to say during that month
dg2N-OUwMmo-00103-00026168-00026414 of may we had a number of challenges it
dg2N-OUwMmo-00104-00026416-00026767 was a very complicated a lot of moving
dg2N-OUwMmo-00105-00026768-00026846 parts
dg2N-OUwMmo-00106-00026847-00027095 transitional phase we had to deliver the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00107-00027095-00027367 bags we had to deliver the bins we had
dg2N-OUwMmo-00108-00027368-00027679 to put new rounds on because critically
dg2N-OUwMmo-00109-00027680-00027927 collecting the bins and bins and bags is
dg2N-OUwMmo-00110-00027927-00028167 slower than just collecting a bin
dg2N-OUwMmo-00111-00028168-00028462 so we've had to change all the rounds uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-00112-00028463-00028735 and we ran dual stream collections the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00113-00028736-00029007 bin and the bag alongside the co-mingled
dg2N-OUwMmo-00114-00029008-00029270 collections which is just the bin
dg2N-OUwMmo-00115-00029272-00029535 for the month of may as we rolled out
dg2N-OUwMmo-00116-00029536-00029695 the the bags
dg2N-OUwMmo-00117-00029695-00029799 um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00118-00029800-00030031 and as a result as i'm sure you're aware
dg2N-OUwMmo-00119-00030032-00030287 we had a number of issues throughout may
dg2N-OUwMmo-00120-00030288-00030607 and you can see on appendix one
dg2N-OUwMmo-00121-00030608-00030902 the the um the completion rates and
dg2N-OUwMmo-00122-00030903-00031070 particularly noticeable through the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00123-00031072-00031199 month of may
dg2N-OUwMmo-00124-00031200-00031439 we had regular days where we weren't
dg2N-OUwMmo-00125-00031439-00031679 able to complete rounds
dg2N-OUwMmo-00126-00031680-00031887 in terms of tamworth there was only one
dg2N-OUwMmo-00127-00031888-00032143 day in which our collection rate dropped
dg2N-OUwMmo-00128-00032144-00032302 below 98
dg2N-OUwMmo-00129-00032303-00032511 and every day we were able to collect
dg2N-OUwMmo-00130-00032512-00032790 the missed bins the following day
dg2N-OUwMmo-00131-00032791-00033015 so whilst you know
dg2N-OUwMmo-00132-00033016-00033199 it's important that we apologize to
dg2N-OUwMmo-00133-00033200-00033495 residents for the disruption we were
dg2N-OUwMmo-00134-00033496-00033695 able to catch up the following day on
dg2N-OUwMmo-00135-00033696-00033974 every occasion and we we and on only one
dg2N-OUwMmo-00136-00033975-00034127 occasion did we miss more than two
dg2N-OUwMmo-00137-00034128-00034351 percent of bins
dg2N-OUwMmo-00138-00034352-00034687 um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00139-00034688-00034895 in terms of the initial performance and
dg2N-OUwMmo-00140-00034896-00035079 it's important to state that this week
dg2N-OUwMmo-00141-00035080-00035423 now is is week six of the of the service
dg2N-OUwMmo-00142-00035424-00035646 the full service um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00143-00035647-00035839 so it's very early to draw any
dg2N-OUwMmo-00144-00035840-00036190 conclusions or make any recommendations
dg2N-OUwMmo-00145-00036191-00036471 but looking at the initial data that is
dg2N-OUwMmo-00146-00036472-00036727 presented in appendix 2 and you've only
dg2N-OUwMmo-00147-00036728-00036959 got the first four weeks there but
dg2N-OUwMmo-00148-00036960-00037159 certainly the those figures have been
dg2N-OUwMmo-00149-00037160-00037455 mirrored in week five and in week six
dg2N-OUwMmo-00150-00037456-00037679 uh broadly speaking there's nothing
dg2N-OUwMmo-00151-00037680-00037871 there to frighten us the there's no
dg2N-OUwMmo-00152-00037872-00038055 alarm bells being rung
dg2N-OUwMmo-00153-00038056-00038279 key things to highlight are there's no
dg2N-OUwMmo-00154-00038280-00038559 appreciable increase in residual waste
dg2N-OUwMmo-00155-00038560-00038799 so certainly one of the concerns we had
dg2N-OUwMmo-00156-00038800-00038959 is that if people were struggling with
dg2N-OUwMmo-00157-00038960-00039167 the dual stream system they might be
dg2N-OUwMmo-00158-00039168-00039359 putting what would be previously gone
dg2N-OUwMmo-00159-00039360-00039511 into the recycling bin into their
dg2N-OUwMmo-00160-00039512-00039751 general waste bin there's no evidence
dg2N-OUwMmo-00161-00039752-00039918 from the tonnages that we're collecting
dg2N-OUwMmo-00162-00039919-00040143 that that's happening
dg2N-OUwMmo-00163-00040144-00040351 the missed bin reports are steadily
dg2N-OUwMmo-00164-00040352-00040462 improving
dg2N-OUwMmo-00165-00040463-00040662 so again we're getting better at
dg2N-OUwMmo-00166-00040663-00040943 collecting all the bins and critically
dg2N-OUwMmo-00167-00040944-00041215 since the since the uh since the 30th of
dg2N-OUwMmo-00168-00041216-00041399 may when we went on to dual stream
dg2N-OUwMmo-00169-00041400-00041599 collections fully
dg2N-OUwMmo-00170-00041600-00041830 we've only we've only had one day where
dg2N-OUwMmo-00171-00041831-00042030 we've had a problem with collections and
dg2N-OUwMmo-00172-00042031-00042143 that was the day there was the lorry
dg2N-OUwMmo-00173-00042144-00042390 fire on the a5 and we just couldn't get
dg2N-OUwMmo-00174-00042391-00042599 to and from the tip in time
dg2N-OUwMmo-00175-00042600-00042823 other than that we've had five weeks of
dg2N-OUwMmo-00176-00042824-00043102 unbroken 100 collections which we you
dg2N-OUwMmo-00177-00043103-00043390 know uh is really positive
dg2N-OUwMmo-00178-00043391-00043607 and the other thing that we've we've
dg2N-OUwMmo-00179-00043608-00043815 made real improvements on is the number
dg2N-OUwMmo-00180-00043816-00044046 of bins we've had to reject and that's
dg2N-OUwMmo-00181-00044047-00044255 thanks to the cooperation and support of
dg2N-OUwMmo-00182-00044256-00044399 our residents
dg2N-OUwMmo-00183-00044400-00044695 so i as you'll see week one we we had to
dg2N-OUwMmo-00184-00044696-00044935 reject more than a thousand bins
dg2N-OUwMmo-00185-00044936-00045174 whereas now as i put on the end of this
dg2N-OUwMmo-00186-00045175-00045415 report
dg2N-OUwMmo-00187-00045416-00045671 the the compliance with the system is is
dg2N-OUwMmo-00188-00045672-00045830 was 97
dg2N-OUwMmo-00189-00045831-00046087 last week it was 99 so we have we're
dg2N-OUwMmo-00190-00046088-00046343 rejecting only one percent of bins so
dg2N-OUwMmo-00191-00046344-00046551 the support and compliance my residents
dg2N-OUwMmo-00192-00046552-00046718 have been absolutely fantastic they've
dg2N-OUwMmo-00193-00046719-00046935 really embraced this and where we have
dg2N-OUwMmo-00194-00046936-00047086 got um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00195-00047087-00047271 residents that are continuing to
dg2N-OUwMmo-00196-00047272-00047462 struggle to engage in the new system
dg2N-OUwMmo-00197-00047463-00047630 we're sending our recycling officers out
dg2N-OUwMmo-00198-00047631-00047927 to educate and support
dg2N-OUwMmo-00199-00047928-00048239 so really the key messages for me are we
dg2N-OUwMmo-00200-00048240-00048374 had a few issues when we were
dg2N-OUwMmo-00201-00048375-00048623 implementing in me in may we're through
dg2N-OUwMmo-00202-00048624-00048727 that now
dg2N-OUwMmo-00203-00048728-00049158 uh the the services record of consistent
dg2N-OUwMmo-00204-00049159-00049343 and reliable service delivery has been
dg2N-OUwMmo-00205-00049344-00049502 re-established from the beginning of
dg2N-OUwMmo-00206-00049503-00049639 june
dg2N-OUwMmo-00207-00049640-00049935 and as i say the the data that we've got
dg2N-OUwMmo-00208-00049936-00050183 so far it's early to make make any
dg2N-OUwMmo-00209-00050184-00050415 recommendations and make changes but
dg2N-OUwMmo-00210-00050416-00050671 looking at the data it's encouraging
dg2N-OUwMmo-00211-00050672-00050918 what we're intending to do because this
dg2N-OUwMmo-00212-00050919-00051118 is this is new to us in the same ways as
dg2N-OUwMmo-00213-00051119-00051279 new to residents
dg2N-OUwMmo-00214-00051279-00051542 is we are going to do reviews certainly
dg2N-OUwMmo-00215-00051544-00051799 at month three and month six to see if
dg2N-OUwMmo-00216-00051800-00051975 there are ways that we can tweak we're
dg2N-OUwMmo-00217-00051976-00052166 constantly tweaking the performance but
dg2N-OUwMmo-00218-00052167-00052294 to see if there's a different way of
dg2N-OUwMmo-00219-00052295-00052519 doing things uh see if there's ways of
dg2N-OUwMmo-00220-00052520-00052775 improving this but it's probably a bit
dg2N-OUwMmo-00221-00052776-00052942 early to make a
dg2N-OUwMmo-00222-00052944-00053311 any sort of data-led informed decisions
dg2N-OUwMmo-00223-00053312-00053479 thank you
dg2N-OUwMmo-00224-00053479-00053630 uh thank you
dg2N-OUwMmo-00225-00053632-00053799 um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00226-00053800-00054030 i've got a couple of um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00227-00054032-00054247 a couple of questions comments um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00228-00054248-00054399 [Music]
dg2N-OUwMmo-00229-00054400-00054719 i think i think the the 98 collection is
dg2N-OUwMmo-00230-00054720-00054959 is quite quite good actually i think
dg2N-OUwMmo-00231-00054960-00055207 that's that it feels quite good um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00232-00055208-00055335 [Music]
dg2N-OUwMmo-00233-00055336-00055619 um and i just wondered also the um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00234-00055620-00055830 [Music]
dg2N-OUwMmo-00235-00055832-00056430 the the sort of recycling collection
dg2N-OUwMmo-00236-00056432-00056679 appendix 2 table how do they sort of
dg2N-OUwMmo-00237-00056679-00057015 compare or do we know how they compare
dg2N-OUwMmo-00238-00057016-00057135 with say
dg2N-OUwMmo-00239-00057136-00057494 another authorities roll out of
dg2N-OUwMmo-00240-00057495-00057735 a dual streaming
dg2N-OUwMmo-00241-00057736-00058254 probably don't have those figures but
dg2N-OUwMmo-00242-00058255-00058566 i i have to be careful here obviously um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00243-00058567-00058838 what i what it is important to say is
dg2N-OUwMmo-00244-00058839-00058950 and i should have said in my
dg2N-OUwMmo-00245-00058951-00059054 introduction
dg2N-OUwMmo-00246-00059055-00059311 that this has absolutely transformed the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00247-00059312-00059471 quality of the recycling that we're
dg2N-OUwMmo-00248-00059472-00059591 collecting
dg2N-OUwMmo-00249-00059591-00059807 so pre this when we were doing
dg2N-OUwMmo-00250-00059808-00060038 co-mingled waste our contamination
dg2N-OUwMmo-00251-00060039-00060250 weight rates the number the amount of
dg2N-OUwMmo-00252-00060251-00060454 non-recyclable that was found in its way
dg2N-OUwMmo-00253-00060455-00060735 into the recycling stream was around 14
dg2N-OUwMmo-00254-00060736-00060926 15
dg2N-OUwMmo-00255-00060927-00061038 currently
dg2N-OUwMmo-00256-00061039-00061247 the the result the contamination for
dg2N-OUwMmo-00257-00061248-00061503 paper and card is less than two percent
dg2N-OUwMmo-00258-00061504-00061671 and glass cans and plastics is less than
dg2N-OUwMmo-00259-00061672-00061838 five percent
dg2N-OUwMmo-00260-00061839-00061911 so
dg2N-OUwMmo-00261-00061912-00062111 since we've moved to dual stream we've
dg2N-OUwMmo-00262-00062112-00062471 not had a single load rejected from from
dg2N-OUwMmo-00263-00062472-00062719 bifur who collect our waste
dg2N-OUwMmo-00264-00062720-00063006 i i'm aware that other authorities have
dg2N-OUwMmo-00265-00063007-00063247 had rejected loads
dg2N-OUwMmo-00266-00063248-00063494 um so it's it's extremely positive and
dg2N-OUwMmo-00267-00063495-00063726 again one once we've got the data from
dg2N-OUwMmo-00268-00063727-00063903 biffort we can start adding that to the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00269-00063904-00064103 data that we present here saying what
dg2N-OUwMmo-00270-00064104-00064350 operas are our contamination rates are
dg2N-OUwMmo-00271-00064351-00064511 but at the moment we know that it's
dg2N-OUwMmo-00272-00064512-00064806 below 2 for paper and card and below 5
dg2N-OUwMmo-00273-00064807-00065726 for glass cans and plastics
dg2N-OUwMmo-00274-00065727-00065863 sorry can i just add that we've been
dg2N-OUwMmo-00275-00065864-00066111 congratulated by biffer who owned the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00276-00066112-00066343 merv the quality has been transformed
dg2N-OUwMmo-00277-00066344-00066511 and we've been down a couple of times to
dg2N-OUwMmo-00278-00066512-00066599 see
dg2N-OUwMmo-00279-00066600-00066782 you know some of the best paper and card
dg2N-OUwMmo-00280-00066783-00066911 i've seen
dg2N-OUwMmo-00281-00066912-00067063 so again a big thank you to the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00282-00067064-00067311 residents for um participating in the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00283-00067312-00067687 scheme in the way we wanted them to
dg2N-OUwMmo-00284-00067688-00067894 thank you nigel st steve
dg2N-OUwMmo-00285-00067895-00068111 i just wanted to add i've been charting
dg2N-OUwMmo-00286-00068112-00068263 the figures as they come in on a daily
dg2N-OUwMmo-00287-00068264-00068382 basis
dg2N-OUwMmo-00288-00068383-00068494 and
dg2N-OUwMmo-00289-00068495-00068679 initially we were doing around about 10
dg2N-OUwMmo-00290-00068680-00068863 metric tons of paper and card when we
dg2N-OUwMmo-00291-00068864-00068999 first started
dg2N-OUwMmo-00292-00069000-00069279 now it's up to 20 plus
dg2N-OUwMmo-00293-00069280-00069431 so it's going in the right direction
dg2N-OUwMmo-00294-00069432-00069750 even organic has increased as well
dg2N-OUwMmo-00295-00069751-00069991 thank you
dg2N-OUwMmo-00296-00069992-00070182 yeah that sounds very encouraging
dg2N-OUwMmo-00297-00070183-00070335 actually so that's that's that's
dg2N-OUwMmo-00298-00070336-00070519 pleasing to her uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-00299-00070520-00071111 questions and comments from anybody else
dg2N-OUwMmo-00300-00071112-00071343 hello yeah um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00301-00071344-00071759 i'm afraid well my very first um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00302-00071760-00072023 experience of the new the new system was
dg2N-OUwMmo-00303-00072024-00072231 on the very first day
dg2N-OUwMmo-00304-00072232-00072462 um i have actually mentioned this before
dg2N-OUwMmo-00305-00072463-00072735 but um i had a phone call from a lady
dg2N-OUwMmo-00306-00072736-00073006 who was not in my particular ward but
dg2N-OUwMmo-00307-00073007-00073206 she couldn't get a hold of her her ward
dg2N-OUwMmo-00308-00073207-00073350 counsellors
dg2N-OUwMmo-00309-00073351-00073623 she told me uh that
dg2N-OUwMmo-00310-00073624-00073726 she'd just been ringing around
dg2N-OUwMmo-00311-00073727-00073943 counsellors and i was one that she she
dg2N-OUwMmo-00312-00073944-00074182 recognized
dg2N-OUwMmo-00313-00074183-00074311 she tried
dg2N-OUwMmo-00314-00074312-00074503 a bin had not been taken big blue ben
dg2N-OUwMmo-00315-00074504-00074799 had not been taken um she was
dg2N-OUwMmo-00316-00074800-00074999 an elderly lady in her mid-80s her
dg2N-OUwMmo-00317-00075000-00075479 husband was bedridden upstairs leukemia
dg2N-OUwMmo-00318-00075480-00075767 she was crying her eyes out because
dg2N-OUwMmo-00319-00075768-00076094 they've left my bin
dg2N-OUwMmo-00320-00076095-00076406 uh so i tried to reassure her and she
dg2N-OUwMmo-00321-00076407-00076662 came from riverside so i went round to
dg2N-OUwMmo-00322-00076663-00076862 riverside to see what she was uh see
dg2N-OUwMmo-00323-00076863-00077094 what the problem see if i could help
dg2N-OUwMmo-00324-00077095-00077287 looked into the bin and the reason that
dg2N-OUwMmo-00325-00077288-00077662 it hadn't been taken apparently the uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-00326-00077663-00077879 the sticker was on the on the bin or the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00327-00077880-00078079 tag telling her to call this number that
dg2N-OUwMmo-00328-00078080-00078326 she couldn't get anyone from
dg2N-OUwMmo-00329-00078327-00078447 and um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00330-00078448-00078662 she'd done it beautifully apart from a
dg2N-OUwMmo-00331-00078663-00078959 cake box which was a cardboard cake box
dg2N-OUwMmo-00332-00078960-00079087 with a plastic
dg2N-OUwMmo-00333-00079088-00079287 uh top on it she'd put that in the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00334-00079288-00079447 plastic thinking that that was a plastic
dg2N-OUwMmo-00335-00079448-00079543 thing
dg2N-OUwMmo-00336-00079544-00079799 and presumably the uh the guy who was
dg2N-OUwMmo-00337-00079800-00080062 collecting it looked at it for cardboard
dg2N-OUwMmo-00338-00080063-00080215 and laughed it
dg2N-OUwMmo-00339-00080216-00080367 i was under the impression that we were
dg2N-OUwMmo-00340-00080368-00080567 going to give people a bit of a betting
dg2N-OUwMmo-00341-00080568-00080887 in period two or three weeks to
dg2N-OUwMmo-00342-00080888-00081167 not be so uh strict
dg2N-OUwMmo-00343-00081168-00081519 because this i ended up i got some bags
dg2N-OUwMmo-00344-00081520-00081806 in my car i ended up emptying her bag
dg2N-OUwMmo-00345-00081807-00082079 into bags and then i took it away i
dg2N-OUwMmo-00346-00082080-00082350 i managed the masonic rooms
dg2N-OUwMmo-00347-00082351-00082567 took this couple of bin bags away with
dg2N-OUwMmo-00348-00082568-00082847 me put them in the um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00349-00082848-00083015 in
dg2N-OUwMmo-00350-00083016-00083262 the bin at the club
dg2N-OUwMmo-00351-00083263-00083535 and it was taken away by bryce so that
dg2N-OUwMmo-00352-00083536-00083703 was one block that we didn't have to
dg2N-OUwMmo-00353-00083704-00083887 deal with
dg2N-OUwMmo-00354-00083888-00083975 um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00355-00083976-00084167 i wasn't terribly impressed by that
dg2N-OUwMmo-00356-00084168-00084350 because i thought we've got this
dg2N-OUwMmo-00357-00084351-00084575 cushion and for people to actually get
dg2N-OUwMmo-00358-00084576-00084679 used to
dg2N-OUwMmo-00359-00084680-00084903 what is and what isn't
dg2N-OUwMmo-00360-00084904-00084991 um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00361-00084992-00085175 acceptable
dg2N-OUwMmo-00362-00085176-00085343 so um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00363-00085344-00085518 that's just something i wanted you to be
dg2N-OUwMmo-00364-00085519-00085735 aware of i'm sure that nothing you could
dg2N-OUwMmo-00365-00085736-00085975 say on that it was just some
dg2N-OUwMmo-00366-00085976-00086150 overly efficient
dg2N-OUwMmo-00367-00086151-00086318 operator
dg2N-OUwMmo-00368-00086319-00086511 uh the main problems i've had and the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00369-00086512-00086767 main feedback i've had since the insta
dg2N-OUwMmo-00370-00086768-00087071 the the scheme was introduced
dg2N-OUwMmo-00371-00087072-00087487 as namely the bags are far too small
dg2N-OUwMmo-00372-00087488-00087743 and the main issue that i found was one
dg2N-OUwMmo-00373-00087744-00087903 that i'd actually brought up at a
dg2N-OUwMmo-00374-00087904-00088103 meeting
dg2N-OUwMmo-00375-00088104-00088294 long before it was actually introduced
dg2N-OUwMmo-00376-00088295-00088462 and i'd ask the question
dg2N-OUwMmo-00377-00088463-00088687 are these bags
dg2N-OUwMmo-00378-00088688-00088911 can you connect them to the bins can you
dg2N-OUwMmo-00379-00088912-00089079 hook them over the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00380-00089080-00089206 bin handles
dg2N-OUwMmo-00381-00089207-00089350 so that they are not going to be just
dg2N-OUwMmo-00382-00089351-00089535 sitting on the floor
dg2N-OUwMmo-00383-00089536-00089782 flying around when there's a bit of wind
dg2N-OUwMmo-00384-00089783-00089967 and i was assured they were that they
dg2N-OUwMmo-00385-00089968-00090191 were capable of being clipped onto the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00386-00090192-00090375 uh the bins
dg2N-OUwMmo-00387-00090376-00090582 which of course they're not
dg2N-OUwMmo-00388-00090583-00090847 so that was incorrect information
dg2N-OUwMmo-00389-00090848-00091103 again i was very disappointed when i
dg2N-OUwMmo-00390-00091104-00091238 received
dg2N-OUwMmo-00391-00091239-00091471 the uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-00392-00091472-00091655 the blue bag my wife
dg2N-OUwMmo-00393-00091656-00091991 who is an assiduous
dg2N-OUwMmo-00394-00091992-00092255 collector and splits it all beautifully
dg2N-OUwMmo-00395-00092256-00092415 she's um she's very into all that sort
dg2N-OUwMmo-00396-00092416-00092526 of thing
dg2N-OUwMmo-00397-00092527-00092782 and she was uh very very unhappy about
dg2N-OUwMmo-00398-00092783-00093174 it and subsequently others have been too
dg2N-OUwMmo-00399-00093175-00093382 um i'm sure you've had a lot of feedback
dg2N-OUwMmo-00400-00093383-00093671 on that um i don't know if you can
dg2N-OUwMmo-00401-00093672-00093999 respond to any of those points
dg2N-OUwMmo-00402-00094000-00094294 thanks
dg2N-OUwMmo-00403-00094295-00094671 yeah in in terms of the bag the bag was
dg2N-OUwMmo-00404-00094672-00094855 specified so that it would fit in the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00405-00094856-00095062 top of the bin that's why if you look at
dg2N-OUwMmo-00406-00095063-00095303 other authorities they tend to have
dg2N-OUwMmo-00407-00095304-00095511 taller and thinner bags so locally
dg2N-OUwMmo-00408-00095512-00095711 newcastle and stafford have taller and
dg2N-OUwMmo-00409-00095712-00095991 thinner bags we had a a shorter fatter
dg2N-OUwMmo-00410-00095992-00096287 bag particularly so that residents could
dg2N-OUwMmo-00411-00096288-00096518 fit it in into the top of the bin it was
dg2N-OUwMmo-00412-00096519-00096671 never designed to be hooked on to the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00413-00096672-00096911 bin so i'm sorry in terms of that
dg2N-OUwMmo-00414-00096912-00097079 information was incorrect that you were
dg2N-OUwMmo-00415-00097080-00097279 provided with but it was designed to fit
dg2N-OUwMmo-00416-00097280-00097511 in the top of the bin
dg2N-OUwMmo-00417-00097512-00097703 what we have been doing is we have been
dg2N-OUwMmo-00418-00097704-00097903 providing residents with second bags if
dg2N-OUwMmo-00419-00097904-00098143 they're if they've requested them
dg2N-OUwMmo-00420-00098144-00098374 because yeah we do acknowledge capacity
dg2N-OUwMmo-00421-00098375-00098615 is an issue for some residents the vast
dg2N-OUwMmo-00422-00098616-00098806 majority of residents are managing
dg2N-OUwMmo-00423-00098807-00098999 perfectly well with one
dg2N-OUwMmo-00424-00099000-00099294 um and as i say we've got 99 compliance
dg2N-OUwMmo-00425-00099295-00099550 now with the new service
dg2N-OUwMmo-00426-00099551-00099782 so residents are managing by and large
dg2N-OUwMmo-00427-00099783-00100006 but absolutely it's one of the one of
dg2N-OUwMmo-00428-00100007-00100271 the difficulties with a service that
dg2N-OUwMmo-00429-00100272-00100550 covers 80 000 households
dg2N-OUwMmo-00430-00100551-00100799 we need to provide a standard service
dg2N-OUwMmo-00431-00100800-00100982 because that's how we're able to do a a
dg2N-OUwMmo-00432-00100983-00101262 quick collection and finish every day
dg2N-OUwMmo-00433-00101263-00101471 but one size doesn't fit all
dg2N-OUwMmo-00434-00101472-00101711 so you know while while a bag might may
dg2N-OUwMmo-00435-00101712-00101967 suit most it won't suit everybody so
dg2N-OUwMmo-00436-00101968-00102271 people people might need a second bag
dg2N-OUwMmo-00437-00102272-00102423 i mentioned earlier what we're looking
dg2N-OUwMmo-00438-00102424-00102623 at potentially is reviews at three and
dg2N-OUwMmo-00439-00102624-00102910 six months it might be that some
dg2N-OUwMmo-00440-00102911-00103078 residents have been provided with a
dg2N-OUwMmo-00441-00103079-00103430 purple bin instead of a instead of a bag
dg2N-OUwMmo-00442-00103431-00103663 and that's worked very well for them it
dg2N-OUwMmo-00443-00103664-00103839 may be that we look at rolling out more
dg2N-OUwMmo-00444-00103840-00103942 bins
dg2N-OUwMmo-00445-00103943-00104086 but again these are the these are some
dg2N-OUwMmo-00446-00104088-00104215 of the things that we need to do in
dg2N-OUwMmo-00447-00104216-00104327 terms of
dg2N-OUwMmo-00448-00104328-00104478 um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00449-00104479-00104575 the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00450-00104576-00104806 understanding the data once we have a a
dg2N-OUwMmo-00451-00104807-00105031 sufficient mass of the data
dg2N-OUwMmo-00452-00105032-00105334 in terms of the lady who who had been
dg2N-OUwMmo-00453-00105335-00105534 rejected i'm very sorry for this the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00454-00105535-00105671 distress that will have been caused to
dg2N-OUwMmo-00455-00105672-00105871 that lady again one of the things that
dg2N-OUwMmo-00456-00105872-00106039 we've learned from this is in terms of
dg2N-OUwMmo-00457-00106040-00106190 communication we said there'd be an
dg2N-OUwMmo-00458-00106191-00106399 amnesty period what we meant with an
dg2N-OUwMmo-00459-00106400-00106551 amnesty period is we'd go back and
dg2N-OUwMmo-00460-00106552-00106751 collect it once the bin had once the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00461-00106752-00106910 contamination had been taken out of the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00462-00106911-00107086 bin because
dg2N-OUwMmo-00463-00107088-00107327 our the the amount of contamination
dg2N-OUwMmo-00464-00107328-00107663 we're allowed to put in the bins is much
dg2N-OUwMmo-00465-00107664-00107847 lower on this contract we we simply
dg2N-OUwMmo-00466-00107848-00108151 can't have the the operatives turn
dg2N-OUwMmo-00467-00108152-00108375 turning a blind eye to bins they know to
dg2N-OUwMmo-00468-00108376-00108575 be contaminated but again it's a
dg2N-OUwMmo-00469-00108576-00108815 learning experience for them and we have
dg2N-OUwMmo-00470-00108816-00109071 been talking to to our crews to say yes
dg2N-OUwMmo-00471-00109072-00109351 you know it's great that you are
dg2N-OUwMmo-00472-00109352-00109558 seeing the contamination but please try
dg2N-OUwMmo-00473-00109559-00109823 and be be practical about this if it's
dg2N-OUwMmo-00474-00109824-00110015 only one thing fish it out
dg2N-OUwMmo-00475-00110016-00110183 so again it's a it's a learning
dg2N-OUwMmo-00476-00110183-00110375 experience for us but yes very sorry for
dg2N-OUwMmo-00477-00110376-00110671 the experience that lady had
dg2N-OUwMmo-00478-00110672-00111415 thanks thanks ben um if i could just
dg2N-OUwMmo-00479-00111416-00111647 thank you i wondered uh with regards to
dg2N-OUwMmo-00480-00111648-00111831 the purple bin
dg2N-OUwMmo-00481-00111832-00112071 um there is um one resident i know of
dg2N-OUwMmo-00482-00112072-00112454 who's refused point blank to use the uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-00483-00112455-00112647 the bags and he's an actual fan i think
dg2N-OUwMmo-00484-00112648-00112886 he put the bag in the in the bin so it's
dg2N-OUwMmo-00485-00112888-00112990 been
dg2N-OUwMmo-00486-00112991-00113263 discarded recycled yeah
dg2N-OUwMmo-00487-00113264-00113343 um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00488-00113344-00113654 and he said that he wants a purple bin
dg2N-OUwMmo-00489-00113655-00113839 and if he gets a purple bin he will
dg2N-OUwMmo-00490-00113840-00114102 recycle but won't do it until he gets
dg2N-OUwMmo-00491-00114103-00114183 one
dg2N-OUwMmo-00492-00114183-00114463 will he be able to apply for a purple
dg2N-OUwMmo-00493-00114464-00114543 bin
dg2N-OUwMmo-00494-00114544-00114783 if he's got the space and the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00495-00114783-00115158 facilities to put it there
dg2N-OUwMmo-00496-00115159-00115383 thanks
dg2N-OUwMmo-00497-00115383-00115631 the the slightly ambiguous answer is not
dg2N-OUwMmo-00498-00115632-00115766 now
dg2N-OUwMmo-00499-00115767-00116102 uh the the issue is we we can't do sort
dg2N-OUwMmo-00500-00116103-00116302 of baggy one house been at the next
dg2N-OUwMmo-00501-00116303-00116454 house bag at one has been at the next
dg2N-OUwMmo-00502-00116455-00116631 house they're collected by different
dg2N-OUwMmo-00503-00116632-00116839 vehicles so the vehicle that collects
dg2N-OUwMmo-00504-00116840-00117023 the the purple bins is a different
dg2N-OUwMmo-00505-00117024-00117215 vehicle to the one that collects the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00506-00117216-00117431 blue bin and the blue bag
dg2N-OUwMmo-00507-00117432-00117751 so at this stage no he can't but one of
dg2N-OUwMmo-00508-00117752-00117927 the things we will consider going
dg2N-OUwMmo-00509-00117928-00118119 forward is is there an opportunity to
dg2N-OUwMmo-00510-00118120-00118454 put more residents onto bins if it suits
dg2N-OUwMmo-00511-00118455-00118663 them if it suits the geography if it
dg2N-OUwMmo-00512-00118664-00118839 suits the nature of the houses on the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00513-00118840-00118999 rounds but it would have to be done on a
dg2N-OUwMmo-00514-00119000-00119286 round by round basis at the moment
dg2N-OUwMmo-00515-00119288-00119575 so the the short answer is no the the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00516-00119576-00119871 longer answer is not now
dg2N-OUwMmo-00517-00119872-00120007 thanks ben
dg2N-OUwMmo-00518-00120008-00120175 richard
dg2N-OUwMmo-00519-00120176-00120366 thank you very much uh how many requests
dg2N-OUwMmo-00520-00120367-00120551 for second or additional bags have been
dg2N-OUwMmo-00521-00120552-00121078 made as of yet if you have those figures
dg2N-OUwMmo-00522-00121079-00121254 the last time i looked three and a half
dg2N-OUwMmo-00523-00121255-00121647 thousand
dg2N-OUwMmo-00524-00121648-00121886 understand we've got about 16 000 spare
dg2N-OUwMmo-00525-00121888-00122047 bags at the moment so we've got plenty
dg2N-OUwMmo-00526-00122048-00122302 of capacity there
dg2N-OUwMmo-00527-00122303-00122527 shuri
dg2N-OUwMmo-00528-00122528-00122678 thank you chair
dg2N-OUwMmo-00529-00122679-00122799 um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00530-00122800-00123023 i'm new to the committee so apologies if
dg2N-OUwMmo-00531-00123024-00123263 anything i ask um has already been
dg2N-OUwMmo-00532-00123264-00123502 answered at previous meetings
dg2N-OUwMmo-00533-00123503-00123839 i'd like to ask about the bags um i
dg2N-OUwMmo-00534-00123840-00124095 was given to understand by i don't i
dg2N-OUwMmo-00535-00124096-00124319 can't remember the source that the bags
dg2N-OUwMmo-00536-00124320-00124623 were not as per specification so the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00537-00124624-00124790 bags that you got were not what you
dg2N-OUwMmo-00538-00124791-00124895 wanted
dg2N-OUwMmo-00539-00124896-00125071 um so i'd like a bit more information on
dg2N-OUwMmo-00540-00125072-00125151 that
dg2N-OUwMmo-00541-00125152-00125390 as to whether that's true or not
dg2N-OUwMmo-00542-00125391-00125471 um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00543-00125472-00125719 and if so why and what's been done about
dg2N-OUwMmo-00544-00125720-00125790 it
dg2N-OUwMmo-00545-00125791-00125983 if that's not true
dg2N-OUwMmo-00546-00125983-00126231 okay fine um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00547-00126232-00126502 i i'm a little bit concerned about the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00548-00126503-00126710 way the system operates because at the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00549-00126711-00126927 moment we've got nice weather on the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00550-00126928-00127102 whole i mean obviously it's britain so
dg2N-OUwMmo-00551-00127103-00127263 it does rain but
dg2N-OUwMmo-00552-00127264-00127414 on the whole it's relatively nice
dg2N-OUwMmo-00553-00127415-00127663 weather so we haven't got bags of soggy
dg2N-OUwMmo-00554-00127664-00127934 paper and cardboard sitting around
dg2N-OUwMmo-00555-00127935-00128119 but i am concerned and i know residents
dg2N-OUwMmo-00556-00128120-00128247 are concerned about what's going to
dg2N-OUwMmo-00557-00128248-00128502 happen when the weather's not so nice
dg2N-OUwMmo-00558-00128503-00128686 i've also had residents who've said to
dg2N-OUwMmo-00559-00128688-00128983 me we don't understand why it's this way
dg2N-OUwMmo-00560-00128983-00129239 round because bags full of paper and
dg2N-OUwMmo-00561-00129240-00129390 card are heavy
dg2N-OUwMmo-00562-00129391-00129799 and a bag full of plastic and
dg2N-OUwMmo-00563-00129800-00130007 tins and so on would be less heavy so
dg2N-OUwMmo-00564-00130008-00130183 why don't we have the bin for the paper
dg2N-OUwMmo-00565-00130183-00130366 and the bag for the plastic if we've got
dg2N-OUwMmo-00566-00130367-00130510 to do it that way
dg2N-OUwMmo-00567-00130511-00130734 um and i can i can sort of sympathize
dg2N-OUwMmo-00568-00130735-00130854 with that because
dg2N-OUwMmo-00569-00130855-00131087 once that bag is full it will be heavy
dg2N-OUwMmo-00570-00131088-00131278 and of course if it gets wet it'll be
dg2N-OUwMmo-00571-00131279-00131399 unliftable
dg2N-OUwMmo-00572-00131400-00131487 so
dg2N-OUwMmo-00573-00131488-00131631 quite a few things there chair but i
dg2N-OUwMmo-00574-00131632-00131799 wonder if you could comment on any of
dg2N-OUwMmo-00575-00131800-00132007 those thank you
dg2N-OUwMmo-00576-00132008-00132239 if i can just come in as well
dg2N-OUwMmo-00577-00132240-00132330 first um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00578-00132331-00132678 [Music]
dg2N-OUwMmo-00579-00132679-00132943 i'd like to sort of try and focus on us
dg2N-OUwMmo-00580-00132944-00133183 moving forward rather than looking back
dg2N-OUwMmo-00581-00133184-00133439 a little bit and i know sheree you've
dg2N-OUwMmo-00582-00133440-00133695 not you're new on this committee but it
dg2N-OUwMmo-00583-00133696-00133847 has been
dg2N-OUwMmo-00584-00133848-00134023 the process has been followed through
dg2N-OUwMmo-00585-00134024-00134287 and scrutinized over over the last 12
dg2N-OUwMmo-00586-00134288-00134519 months really so some of those some of
dg2N-OUwMmo-00587-00134520-00134711 those concerns and questions probably
dg2N-OUwMmo-00588-00134712-00134847 refer back to
dg2N-OUwMmo-00589-00134848-00135111 um obviously that pre-implementation
dg2N-OUwMmo-00590-00135112-00135423 stage as opposed to to afterwards but
dg2N-OUwMmo-00591-00135424-00135678 just just a comment
dg2N-OUwMmo-00592-00135679-00135935 i do appreciate that chair but having
dg2N-OUwMmo-00593-00135936-00136087 said that
dg2N-OUwMmo-00594-00136088-00136311 i and i'm sure other counsellors are
dg2N-OUwMmo-00595-00136312-00136543 getting questions from residents so i'd
dg2N-OUwMmo-00596-00136544-00136663 like to be able to answer those
dg2N-OUwMmo-00597-00136664-00136975 questions
dg2N-OUwMmo-00598-00136976-00137319 ben nigel
dg2N-OUwMmo-00599-00137320-00137535 in in terms of the bags and their
dg2N-OUwMmo-00600-00137536-00137687 compliance this is something that we're
dg2N-OUwMmo-00601-00137688-00137878 discussing right now with the the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00602-00137879-00138087 supplier so if it's all right with the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00603-00138088-00138287 committee it's probably appropriate that
dg2N-OUwMmo-00604-00138288-00138495 we give an update on that at the next
dg2N-OUwMmo-00605-00138496-00138631 committee
dg2N-OUwMmo-00606-00138632-00138823 um it's a matter it's a live matter
dg2N-OUwMmo-00607-00138824-00139014 that's being discussed right now
dg2N-OUwMmo-00608-00139015-00139278 um in terms of the the use of the the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00609-00139279-00139583 bags for glass cans and plastics instead
dg2N-OUwMmo-00610-00139584-00139839 it is something that has been has been
dg2N-OUwMmo-00611-00139840-00140063 raised because particularly with you
dg2N-OUwMmo-00612-00140064-00140287 know new ways of living and more amazon
dg2N-OUwMmo-00613-00140288-00140502 more deliveries paper and card is
dg2N-OUwMmo-00614-00140503-00140671 increasing
dg2N-OUwMmo-00615-00140672-00140831 there are a number of issues putting
dg2N-OUwMmo-00616-00140832-00141095 glass cans and plastics in the bag
dg2N-OUwMmo-00617-00141096-00141254 particularly for households that produce
dg2N-OUwMmo-00618-00141255-00141463 a lot of glass it is the heavier of the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00619-00141464-00141751 two commodities uh it's not as safe
dg2N-OUwMmo-00620-00141752-00141983 putting glass that is prone to breakage
dg2N-OUwMmo-00621-00141984-00142135 in a in a
dg2N-OUwMmo-00622-00142136-00142254 woven
dg2N-OUwMmo-00623-00142255-00142647 polypropylene bag
dg2N-OUwMmo-00624-00142648-00142743 but
dg2N-OUwMmo-00625-00142744-00142895 notwithstanding that it is something
dg2N-OUwMmo-00626-00142896-00143047 that we are looking at in terms of how
dg2N-OUwMmo-00627-00143048-00143239 we provide householders with additional
dg2N-OUwMmo-00628-00143240-00143487 capacity for the paper and card because
dg2N-OUwMmo-00629-00143488-00143759 we are looking at um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00630-00143760-00143911 whether we have got this the right way
dg2N-OUwMmo-00631-00143912-00144095 around and broadly speaking we have
dg2N-OUwMmo-00632-00144096-00144326 because the the vehicles
dg2N-OUwMmo-00633-00144327-00144439 and there's a danger that i become a
dg2N-OUwMmo-00634-00144440-00144575 complete bin boy here and go down a
dg2N-OUwMmo-00635-00144576-00144766 rabbit hole so somebody signal if i
dg2N-OUwMmo-00636-00144767-00145014 don't but broadly speaking the the the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00637-00145015-00145263 vehicles that collect the the bin and
dg2N-OUwMmo-00638-00145264-00145590 the bag they're split a third two thirds
dg2N-OUwMmo-00639-00145591-00145839 the papering card goes in the the third
dg2N-OUwMmo-00640-00145840-00145999 side and the glass cans and plastics
dg2N-OUwMmo-00641-00146000-00146190 goes in the in the in the two-thirds
dg2N-OUwMmo-00642-00146191-00146463 side it's the it is the right way round
dg2N-OUwMmo-00643-00146464-00146678 it's not a perfect ratio there's more
dg2N-OUwMmo-00644-00146679-00146943 than a third card but less than half so
dg2N-OUwMmo-00645-00146944-00147254 it is the right way round but it it is
dg2N-OUwMmo-00646-00147255-00147487 so we have got it the right way around
dg2N-OUwMmo-00647-00147488-00147678 but it's not a perfect split but
dg2N-OUwMmo-00648-00147679-00147863 certainly in terms of you your comments
dg2N-OUwMmo-00649-00147864-00148095 around the the volume and the amount of
dg2N-OUwMmo-00650-00148096-00148271 paper and card that we're getting you're
dg2N-OUwMmo-00651-00148272-00148431 absolutely right and it is something
dg2N-OUwMmo-00652-00148432-00148583 that we'll need to consider as this
dg2N-OUwMmo-00653-00148584-00148695 evolves
dg2N-OUwMmo-00654-00148696-00148814 with regard
dg2N-OUwMmo-00655-00148815-00149007 how this will work through the winter
dg2N-OUwMmo-00656-00149008-00149175 we'll have to wait and see this this is
dg2N-OUwMmo-00657-00149176-00149295 sort of
dg2N-OUwMmo-00658-00149296-00149551 the the recycling um system is different
dg2N-OUwMmo-00659-00149552-00149766 throughout the country but
dg2N-OUwMmo-00660-00149767-00149990 a bag and a bin is as close as we've got
dg2N-OUwMmo-00661-00149991-00150166 to the industry standard
dg2N-OUwMmo-00662-00150167-00150366 for recycling and it does work in other
dg2N-OUwMmo-00663-00150367-00150551 authorities it works in stafford it
dg2N-OUwMmo-00664-00150552-00150839 works in in newcastle the bags have got
dg2N-OUwMmo-00665-00150840-00151054 the velcro lids
dg2N-OUwMmo-00666-00151055-00151311 it's not the case that we can't take wet
dg2N-OUwMmo-00667-00151312-00151526 paper and card it's when it gets so wet
dg2N-OUwMmo-00668-00151527-00151695 that it it can't be picked up and
dg2N-OUwMmo-00669-00151696-00151887 particularly the sideways just falls all
dg2N-OUwMmo-00670-00151888-00152143 over the all over the pavements
dg2N-OUwMmo-00671-00152144-00152302 uh but it's something that we're looking
dg2N-OUwMmo-00672-00152303-00152447 at and particularly as we come to
dg2N-OUwMmo-00673-00152448-00152583 christmas where we know people have got
dg2N-OUwMmo-00674-00152584-00152751 a lot more paper and card how do we
dg2N-OUwMmo-00675-00152752-00152911 provide additional capacity over the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00676-00152912-00153126 christmas period so yeah it's sort of
dg2N-OUwMmo-00677-00153127-00153263 it's a little bit
dg2N-OUwMmo-00678-00153264-00153502 really good and valid observations and
dg2N-OUwMmo-00679-00153503-00153647 ones that we've heard from a number of
dg2N-OUwMmo-00680-00153648-00153799 residents
dg2N-OUwMmo-00681-00153800-00153966 but it's it's part of our of our
dg2N-OUwMmo-00682-00153967-00154271 learning journey
dg2N-OUwMmo-00683-00154272-00154519 could i just share that um we did visit
dg2N-OUwMmo-00684-00154520-00154751 newcastle in the winter and also during
dg2N-OUwMmo-00685-00154752-00154951 some inclement weather and what
dg2N-OUwMmo-00686-00154952-00155102 residents were being encouraged to do
dg2N-OUwMmo-00687-00155103-00155431 there was to put the bag within the bin
dg2N-OUwMmo-00688-00155432-00155583 and the way we've
dg2N-OUwMmo-00689-00155584-00155823 procured the bag it does fit into the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00690-00155824-00156054 bin and still allow space down they are
dg2N-OUwMmo-00691-00156055-00156231 either side of the bag for people to put
dg2N-OUwMmo-00692-00156232-00156423 the glass guns in plastic so there was a
dg2N-OUwMmo-00693-00156424-00156590 lot of presentation of the bags within
dg2N-OUwMmo-00694-00156591-00156847 the bin when we visited so they will
dg2N-OUwMmo-00695-00156848-00157063 minimize the risk of obviously litter
dg2N-OUwMmo-00696-00157064-00157295 and other factors so and it seemed to
dg2N-OUwMmo-00697-00157296-00157559 work pretty well there when we visited
dg2N-OUwMmo-00698-00157560-00157702 thank you
dg2N-OUwMmo-00699-00157703-00157966 thanks nigel yeah i mean if i can if i
dg2N-OUwMmo-00700-00157967-00158302 just say that i think at the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00701-00158303-00158478 not not last full council meetings that
dg2N-OUwMmo-00702-00158479-00158687 was that was last night but the previous
dg2N-OUwMmo-00703-00158688-00158895 one i think it was agreed that there was
dg2N-OUwMmo-00704-00158896-00159102 a there was going to be um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00705-00159103-00159231 a review
dg2N-OUwMmo-00706-00159232-00159439 uh on the implementation
dg2N-OUwMmo-00707-00159440-00159726 phase and i guess if i can just ask
dg2N-OUwMmo-00708-00159727-00159911 andrew what what the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00709-00159912-00160190 schedule for that is um that might help
dg2N-OUwMmo-00710-00160191-00160343 committee
dg2N-OUwMmo-00711-00160344-00160583 with with questions perhaps when that's
dg2N-OUwMmo-00712-00160584-00160735 been completed
dg2N-OUwMmo-00713-00160736-00161031 yes thank you chair yes um let's say the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00714-00161032-00161278 last normal full council um the later
dg2N-OUwMmo-00715-00161279-00161487 announced that there was to be a uh sort
dg2N-OUwMmo-00716-00161488-00161687 of an independent review into
dg2N-OUwMmo-00717-00161688-00162014 implementation and review of service um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00718-00162015-00162287 jointly um across both authorities that
dg2N-OUwMmo-00719-00162288-00162502 work has been commissioned
dg2N-OUwMmo-00720-00162503-00162751 it's likely it will be concluded
dg2N-OUwMmo-00721-00162752-00163039 probably in early august i think um with
dg2N-OUwMmo-00722-00163040-00163399 its initial findings that will go to um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00723-00163400-00163599 um leaders and chief and
dg2N-OUwMmo-00724-00163600-00163911 portfolio holders for for review and i
dg2N-OUwMmo-00725-00163912-00164119 would suggest if the time scale fits
dg2N-OUwMmo-00726-00164120-00164326 we'll bring that forward as part of the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00727-00164327-00164631 the next update to this committee
dg2N-OUwMmo-00728-00164632-00164759 thank you andrew yeah i think that i
dg2N-OUwMmo-00729-00164760-00164895 think that would help and i think that
dg2N-OUwMmo-00730-00164896-00165119 might sort of um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00731-00165120-00165335 cover some some of the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00732-00165336-00165551 perhaps concerns that the committee
dg2N-OUwMmo-00733-00165552-00166199 might might have
dg2N-OUwMmo-00734-00166200-00166399 yeah good evening everybody um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00735-00166400-00166575 just a couple of things really what is
dg2N-OUwMmo-00736-00166576-00166695 the life
dg2N-OUwMmo-00737-00166696-00166919 span of the bags
dg2N-OUwMmo-00738-00166920-00167535 in your estimate
dg2N-OUwMmo-00739-00167536-00167726 truthfully i don't think we know we as
dg2N-OUwMmo-00740-00167727-00168031 part of the the options appraisal we did
dg2N-OUwMmo-00741-00168032-00168431 budget for uh replacing
dg2N-OUwMmo-00742-00168432-00168631 ten percent every year ten percent every
dg2N-OUwMmo-00743-00168632-00168799 year yeah okay
dg2N-OUwMmo-00744-00168800-00168943 uh the other thing is i've got a couple
dg2N-OUwMmo-00745-00168944-00169166 of um well older residents and
dg2N-OUwMmo-00746-00169167-00169447 my mother-in-law as well she's 84.
dg2N-OUwMmo-00747-00169448-00169607 and she can't pick the bag off because
dg2N-OUwMmo-00748-00169608-00169766 of the arthritis and whatever and get it
dg2N-OUwMmo-00749-00169767-00170007 to the actual roadside
dg2N-OUwMmo-00750-00170008-00170231 what facilities are we offering to to do
dg2N-OUwMmo-00751-00170232-00170375 that is i know i wrote down that you've
dg2N-OUwMmo-00752-00170376-00170559 got a recycling officer
dg2N-OUwMmo-00753-00170560-00170711 but that i'm not seeing any
dg2N-OUwMmo-00754-00170712-00170871 communications to
dg2N-OUwMmo-00755-00170872-00170959 help
dg2N-OUwMmo-00756-00170960-00171447 or advise people to ring this number
dg2N-OUwMmo-00757-00171448-00171671 we do have an assisted collection scheme
dg2N-OUwMmo-00758-00171672-00171911 so for residents who are struggling to
dg2N-OUwMmo-00759-00171912-00172102 to bring their bags their bins to the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00760-00172103-00172335 curbside we will collect them from from
dg2N-OUwMmo-00761-00172336-00172502 the curtidage of the house
dg2N-OUwMmo-00762-00172503-00172702 uh that's a system that we've always had
dg2N-OUwMmo-00763-00172703-00172959 in place for the bins okay and something
dg2N-OUwMmo-00764-00172960-00173159 that we we will expand for the bags
dg2N-OUwMmo-00765-00173160-00173399 we've got around 2000 residents already
dg2N-OUwMmo-00766-00173400-00173671 already registered on that scheme and i
dg2N-OUwMmo-00767-00173672-00173854 did put it in the briefing note we have
dg2N-OUwMmo-00768-00173855-00174087 had a modest increase in that which we
dg2N-OUwMmo-00769-00174088-00174326 anticipated because exactly as you said
dg2N-OUwMmo-00770-00174327-00174575 for for residents who are able to wheel
dg2N-OUwMmo-00771-00174576-00174759 a bin they won't be necessarily you know
dg2N-OUwMmo-00772-00174760-00174919 imagine a wheelchair or
dg2N-OUwMmo-00773-00174920-00175038 to carry a bag
dg2N-OUwMmo-00774-00175039-00175302 so yeah we we we are anticipating an
dg2N-OUwMmo-00775-00175303-00175471 increase in that scheme and that's what
dg2N-OUwMmo-00776-00175472-00175678 we've we've noticed it's it's it's a
dg2N-OUwMmo-00777-00175679-00175919 modest increase it's around about 200 to
dg2N-OUwMmo-00778-00175920-00176031 run about temperature is the scheme
dg2N-OUwMmo-00779-00176032-00176231 information on the website or what it is
dg2N-OUwMmo-00780-00176232-00176623 yes okay yeah um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00781-00176624-00176799 just bring andrew anything else coming
dg2N-OUwMmo-00782-00176800-00176926 yeah it's just a probably personal
dg2N-OUwMmo-00783-00176927-00177102 experience on how long do the bags last
dg2N-OUwMmo-00784-00177103-00177407 um i live in stafford and we've had our
dg2N-OUwMmo-00785-00177408-00177543 bags for about three and a half years
dg2N-OUwMmo-00786-00177544-00177775 mine's still going strong okay and i'm a
dg2N-OUwMmo-00787-00177776-00178095 reasonably competent recycler so
dg2N-OUwMmo-00788-00178096-00178287 they're made out of similar materials so
dg2N-OUwMmo-00789-00178288-00178495 i think you know it's so it's it's
dg2N-OUwMmo-00790-00178496-00178695 probably better than we anticipated
dg2N-OUwMmo-00791-00178696-00178951 thanks jeff okay and the final question
dg2N-OUwMmo-00792-00178952-00179102 which is you've probably just touched on
dg2N-OUwMmo-00793-00179103-00179254 actually what are our plans for the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00794-00179255-00179438 christmas period when it does obviously
dg2N-OUwMmo-00795-00179439-00179526 peak
dg2N-OUwMmo-00796-00179527-00179766 um you know will there be additional
dg2N-OUwMmo-00797-00179767-00180038 collections to move the mass or over the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00798-00180039-00180495 christmas period what are your plans
dg2N-OUwMmo-00799-00180496-00180695 yes thank you yes we've already started
dg2N-OUwMmo-00800-00180696-00180895 to plan for christmas likely to have to
dg2N-OUwMmo-00801-00180896-00181095 put some extra resource on
dg2N-OUwMmo-00802-00181096-00181263 we may collect the card and paper
dg2N-OUwMmo-00803-00181264-00181431 separately in a different vehicle we
dg2N-OUwMmo-00804-00181432-00181711 haven't decided yet we might make
dg2N-OUwMmo-00805-00181712-00181919 each round slightly smaller and put some
dg2N-OUwMmo-00806-00181920-00182111 more infrastructure on obviously it
dg2N-OUwMmo-00807-00182112-00182326 depends on getting staff etc and
dg2N-OUwMmo-00808-00182327-00182495 vehicles but we're already in the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00809-00182496-00182702 planning stage for that so we know
dg2N-OUwMmo-00810-00182703-00182911 christmas is coming and
dg2N-OUwMmo-00811-00182912-00183143 every year is a sort of 30 40 percent
dg2N-OUwMmo-00812-00183144-00183390 increase in volume so we won't let the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00813-00183391-00183590 residents down we'll have some very
dg2N-OUwMmo-00814-00183591-00183807 worked up plans
dg2N-OUwMmo-00815-00183808-00183990 thanks nigel andrew yeah i think it's
dg2N-OUwMmo-00816-00183991-00184143 just worth saying it
dg2N-OUwMmo-00817-00184144-00184359 christmas is planned for every year
dg2N-OUwMmo-00818-00184360-00184454 it is
dg2N-OUwMmo-00819-00184455-00184799 always a really heavy period of waste
dg2N-OUwMmo-00820-00184800-00185071 collection because people at home extra
dg2N-OUwMmo-00821-00185072-00185263 waste you know that sort of thing so
dg2N-OUwMmo-00822-00185264-00185463 it's it is always a difficult time it's
dg2N-OUwMmo-00823-00185464-00185654 always one that gets planned well in
dg2N-OUwMmo-00824-00185655-00185759 advance
dg2N-OUwMmo-00825-00185760-00185878 to do so
dg2N-OUwMmo-00826-00185879-00186071 i think probably the reassurance is
dg2N-OUwMmo-00827-00186072-00186199 whilst it might be a slightly different
dg2N-OUwMmo-00828-00186200-00186414 collection methodology this year it's no
dg2N-OUwMmo-00829-00186415-00186543 different than normal
dg2N-OUwMmo-00830-00186544-00186766 well that could be communicated to the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00831-00186767-00187007 residents it always is okay it always is
dg2N-OUwMmo-00832-00187008-00187150 it could probably mean that day changes
dg2N-OUwMmo-00833-00187151-00187350 may happen or stuff like that depends on
dg2N-OUwMmo-00834-00187351-00187683 what christmas falls
dg2N-OUwMmo-00835-00187684-00187911 yeah uh andrew i think i think if
dg2N-OUwMmo-00836-00187912-00188087 perhaps we could get an update on that
dg2N-OUwMmo-00837-00188088-00188207 our next
dg2N-OUwMmo-00838-00188208-00188478 briefing that might be quite useful
dg2N-OUwMmo-00839-00188479-00188735 thank you
dg2N-OUwMmo-00840-00188736-00188911 andy
dg2N-OUwMmo-00841-00188912-00189207 thanks chair um in the report you say
dg2N-OUwMmo-00842-00189208-00189366 that the pressure on the service was
dg2N-OUwMmo-00843-00189367-00189590 exasperated by a number of other factors
dg2N-OUwMmo-00844-00189591-00189823 two drivers resigned at the start of the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00845-00189824-00190054 rollout the scarcity of hgv drivers is a
dg2N-OUwMmo-00846-00190055-00190238 national challenge both drivers have
dg2N-OUwMmo-00847-00190239-00190495 subsequently returned however how much
dg2N-OUwMmo-00848-00190496-00190735 of a future risk is that to the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00849-00190736-00191023 collection um and what are we doing
dg2N-OUwMmo-00850-00191024-00191583 about it to mitigate that risk
dg2N-OUwMmo-00851-00191584-00191775 you're right to highlight it it is a it
dg2N-OUwMmo-00852-00191776-00192111 is an ongoing risk it's probably the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00853-00192112-00192254 the most critical risk in terms of
dg2N-OUwMmo-00854-00192255-00192431 service failure
dg2N-OUwMmo-00855-00192432-00192638 we know that there's a national shortage
dg2N-OUwMmo-00856-00192639-00192887 of hgv class c drivers
dg2N-OUwMmo-00857-00192888-00193207 um pleased to say that whilst we we've
dg2N-OUwMmo-00858-00193208-00193407 inducted three recently so we've got
dg2N-OUwMmo-00859-00193408-00193599 three coming into the workforce the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00860-00193600-00193871 other thing we are we've we've also
dg2N-OUwMmo-00861-00193872-00194150 modestly increased the the driver pay so
dg2N-OUwMmo-00862-00194151-00194319 we've we've accelerated them all to the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00863-00194320-00194559 top of their scale which will help us
dg2N-OUwMmo-00864-00194560-00194759 retain those staff
dg2N-OUwMmo-00865-00194760-00194863 it's not going to make a massive
dg2N-OUwMmo-00866-00194864-00194999 difference we anticipate under
dg2N-OUwMmo-00867-00195000-00195183 recruitment but in terms of retention of
dg2N-OUwMmo-00868-00195184-00195414 staff that will make a big difference we
dg2N-OUwMmo-00869-00195415-00195502 believe
dg2N-OUwMmo-00870-00195503-00195702 the other thing we are exploring doing
dg2N-OUwMmo-00871-00195703-00195959 is training our own drivers and then
dg2N-OUwMmo-00872-00195960-00196102 committing them to a training agreement
dg2N-OUwMmo-00873-00196103-00196295 so if we invest in their training they
dg2N-OUwMmo-00874-00196296-00196559 stay with us for a set period of time so
dg2N-OUwMmo-00875-00196560-00196711 that's something that we we are doing
dg2N-OUwMmo-00876-00196712-00196895 but you're absolutely right i like it is
dg2N-OUwMmo-00877-00196896-00197071 a critical risk and those are some of
dg2N-OUwMmo-00878-00197072-00197190 the things that we're doing to try and
dg2N-OUwMmo-00879-00197191-00197454 address it
dg2N-OUwMmo-00880-00197455-00197663 thanks ben um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00881-00197664-00198119 any other questions or comments richard
dg2N-OUwMmo-00882-00198120-00198407 uh thank you uh during the time when we
dg2N-OUwMmo-00883-00198408-00198623 were discussing implementing this we had
dg2N-OUwMmo-00884-00198624-00198759 i believe there was a brief discussion
dg2N-OUwMmo-00885-00198760-00199047 about the people who have not yet moved
dg2N-OUwMmo-00886-00199048-00199399 on to it who have communal bins uh and
dg2N-OUwMmo-00887-00199400-00199575 just the single bin one one of them
dg2N-OUwMmo-00888-00199576-00199854 myself uh single recycling bin uh is
dg2N-OUwMmo-00889-00199855-00200038 there any plans or have the plans
dg2N-OUwMmo-00890-00200039-00200254 progress to implement it for those who
dg2N-OUwMmo-00891-00200255-00200663 do are currently using communal bins
dg2N-OUwMmo-00892-00200664-00200878 yes thank you for that um yes so we've
dg2N-OUwMmo-00893-00200879-00201078 got three and a half thousand properties
dg2N-OUwMmo-00894-00201079-00201278 that use communal facilities across both
dg2N-OUwMmo-00895-00201279-00201390 districts
dg2N-OUwMmo-00896-00201391-00201575 all of those properties have got to be
dg2N-OUwMmo-00897-00201576-00201695 visited
dg2N-OUwMmo-00898-00201696-00201975 assessed
dg2N-OUwMmo-00899-00201976-00202159 communication with the residents it's
dg2N-OUwMmo-00900-00202160-00202295 probably a piece of work that's going to
dg2N-OUwMmo-00901-00202296-00202631 take us about 12 months to complete but
dg2N-OUwMmo-00902-00202632-00202799 now we've settled the service down and
dg2N-OUwMmo-00903-00202800-00203014 we're back to normality it will be
dg2N-OUwMmo-00904-00203015-00203278 starting very shortly so um we'll be
dg2N-OUwMmo-00905-00203279-00203487 visiting you anytime soon
dg2N-OUwMmo-00906-00203488-00203799 thank you thank you
dg2N-OUwMmo-00907-00203800-00204214 any other questions or comments
dg2N-OUwMmo-00908-00204215-00204375 nothing okay
dg2N-OUwMmo-00909-00204376-00204559 um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00910-00204560-00204759 then i thank um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00911-00204760-00204975 everybody for uh for attending i think
dg2N-OUwMmo-00912-00204976-00205103 that's been very
dg2N-OUwMmo-00913-00205104-00205390 very useful we don't have any specific
dg2N-OUwMmo-00914-00205391-00205662 recommendations it is just an update but
dg2N-OUwMmo-00915-00205663-00205894 i think if you could uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-00916-00205896-00206127 consider the um perhaps some of the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00917-00206128-00206342 questions and comments for for for next
dg2N-OUwMmo-00918-00206344-00206534 time i think that would be that would be
dg2N-OUwMmo-00919-00206535-00206790 really useful and uh we'll probably see
dg2N-OUwMmo-00920-00206791-00207014 you see you back in
dg2N-OUwMmo-00921-00207015-00207382 in in another three months time ish
dg2N-OUwMmo-00922-00207383-00208486 thank you very much
dg2N-OUwMmo-00923-00208487-00208662 okay so
dg2N-OUwMmo-00924-00208663-00209071 next item item eight is uh an electric
dg2N-OUwMmo-00925-00209071-00209351 vehicle charging update
dg2N-OUwMmo-00926-00209352-00209479 from uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-00927-00209480-00209782 matt fletcher um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00928-00209783-00209951 just as a bit of background for for
dg2N-OUwMmo-00929-00209952-00210279 committee this is this is something that
dg2N-OUwMmo-00930-00210280-00210455 that i've been
dg2N-OUwMmo-00931-00210456-00210551 well
dg2N-OUwMmo-00932-00210552-00210806 i guess i've i've been pestering
dg2N-OUwMmo-00933-00210807-00211055 pestering uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-00934-00211056-00211334 for for for what seems like in a number
dg2N-OUwMmo-00935-00211335-00211558 of years um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00936-00211559-00211823 so so quite close to my heart i suppose
dg2N-OUwMmo-00937-00211823-00211942 um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00938-00211944-00212134 and there's been a bit of a journey but
dg2N-OUwMmo-00939-00212135-00212358 uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-00940-00212359-00212527 matt is going to give us an update on
dg2N-OUwMmo-00941-00212528-00212910 where we are at the moment
dg2N-OUwMmo-00942-00212911-00213031 thank you matt
dg2N-OUwMmo-00943-00213032-00213239 thank you so um following on from the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00944-00213240-00213375 last um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00945-00213376-00213503 committee that we attended we were
dg2N-OUwMmo-00946-00213504-00213655 unable at that time to give any
dg2N-OUwMmo-00947-00213656-00214015 financial details um about the um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00948-00214016-00214167 agreement that we'd entered into so i
dg2N-OUwMmo-00949-00214167-00214358 thought if that's okay i'll just give a
dg2N-OUwMmo-00950-00214359-00214503 quick update on what that was because
dg2N-OUwMmo-00951-00214504-00214710 obviously that agreement has been signed
dg2N-OUwMmo-00952-00214711-00214863 so um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00953-00214864-00215110 since getting approval um to go ahead
dg2N-OUwMmo-00954-00215111-00215294 and the council has signed an agreement
dg2N-OUwMmo-00955-00215296-00215575 with bp pulse who are one of the largest
dg2N-OUwMmo-00956-00215576-00215775 growing suppliers
dg2N-OUwMmo-00957-00215776-00215855 and
dg2N-OUwMmo-00958-00215856-00215951 that was
dg2N-OUwMmo-00959-00215952-00216246 as detailed at other scrutinies um and
dg2N-OUwMmo-00960-00216248-00216575 i understand through cabinet um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00961-00216576-00216751 that
dg2N-OUwMmo-00962-00216752-00216927 option was taken after a full options
dg2N-OUwMmo-00963-00216928-00217094 analysis and appraisal of the market
dg2N-OUwMmo-00964-00217096-00217487 because bp cover all costs
dg2N-OUwMmo-00965-00217488-00217710 so there is absolutely no cost to the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00966-00217711-00218015 council of this service they do all of
dg2N-OUwMmo-00967-00218016-00218342 the work um including all of the power
dg2N-OUwMmo-00968-00218344-00218534 connectivity and supply of the machines
dg2N-OUwMmo-00969-00218535-00218782 then operate that
dg2N-OUwMmo-00970-00218783-00218982 and the reason that was taken for
dg2N-OUwMmo-00971-00218983-00219198 members who weren't um involved in those
dg2N-OUwMmo-00972-00219200-00219423 committees at the time was that um when
dg2N-OUwMmo-00973-00219423-00219551 we were looking at it it was still a
dg2N-OUwMmo-00974-00219552-00219815 relatively um unknown and untested in
dg2N-OUwMmo-00975-00219816-00220079 tamworth so demand and then the ongoing
dg2N-OUwMmo-00976-00220080-00220263 maintenance of that
dg2N-OUwMmo-00977-00220264-00220455 and this was seen as a real benefit that
dg2N-OUwMmo-00978-00220456-00220646 effectively it could be tried with a
dg2N-OUwMmo-00979-00220648-00220951 high profile high quality product
dg2N-OUwMmo-00980-00220952-00221087 so
dg2N-OUwMmo-00981-00221088-00221175 since
dg2N-OUwMmo-00982-00221176-00221246 the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00983-00221248-00221510 last scrutiny committee all of the
dg2N-OUwMmo-00984-00221511-00221687 relevant um legals have been done and
dg2N-OUwMmo-00985-00221688-00221839 we've entered into an agreement with bp
dg2N-OUwMmo-00986-00221840-00222031 pulse bp pulse of since
dg2N-OUwMmo-00987-00222032-00222206 um all the work at the time was just
dg2N-OUwMmo-00988-00222207-00222382 done desktop they've since come out on
dg2N-OUwMmo-00989-00222383-00222719 site and they've engaged with the um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00990-00222719-00222831 the um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00991-00222832-00223103 its dna um district network operator
dg2N-OUwMmo-00992-00223104-00223287 which is western power
dg2N-OUwMmo-00993-00223288-00223534 um so that has taken considerable time
dg2N-OUwMmo-00994-00223535-00223751 more time than we'd expected for them to
dg2N-OUwMmo-00995-00223752-00223846 get back
dg2N-OUwMmo-00996-00223848-00223958 on
dg2N-OUwMmo-00997-00223959-00224094 and um
dg2N-OUwMmo-00998-00224096-00224263 they've we've now gone back and forth
dg2N-OUwMmo-00999-00224264-00224382 with them and we've highlighted the
dg2N-OUwMmo-01000-00224383-00224863 exact locations um for the um charges so
dg2N-OUwMmo-01001-00224864-00225142 just to go into actual detail um there
dg2N-OUwMmo-01002-00225144-00225358 will be at this moment in time two
dg2N-OUwMmo-01003-00225359-00225623 charges on each um car park they are
dg2N-OUwMmo-01004-00225623-00225806 fast chargers and that's purposely
dg2N-OUwMmo-01005-00225807-00225919 designed
dg2N-OUwMmo-01006-00225919-00226167 to ensure um you know that um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01007-00226167-00226358 you know there's a turnover within our
dg2N-OUwMmo-01008-00226359-00226487 car parks
dg2N-OUwMmo-01009-00226488-00226742 um each charger will have two charging
dg2N-OUwMmo-01010-00226744-00226879 points so effectively there'll be four
dg2N-OUwMmo-01011-00226880-00227223 in each and if members would like um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01012-00227223-00227367 just a map
dg2N-OUwMmo-01013-00227367-00227519 of where the locations are i can show
dg2N-OUwMmo-01014-00227519-00227719 them i've printed off documents if that
dg2N-OUwMmo-01015-00227719-00227871 helps
dg2N-OUwMmo-01016-00227871-00230487 i think that probably would be helpful
dg2N-OUwMmo-01017-00230488-00230710 so um in consultation and i think we
dg2N-OUwMmo-01018-00230711-00230903 discussed this again but i'll just go
dg2N-OUwMmo-01019-00230904-00231303 over it in consultation with members um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01020-00231304-00231503 the um two car parks that were also
dg2N-OUwMmo-01021-00231504-00231679 identified with b peoples because
dg2N-OUwMmo-01022-00231680-00231958 obviously they're doing this um you know
dg2N-OUwMmo-01023-00231959-00232151 from from their own market making point
dg2N-OUwMmo-01024-00232152-00232471 of view um was riverside and bulbridge
dg2N-OUwMmo-01025-00232471-00232727 and they are obviously our um our two
dg2N-OUwMmo-01026-00232728-00232975 sort of key car parks so if you look at
dg2N-OUwMmo-01027-00232976-00233182 riverside first the intention there is
dg2N-OUwMmo-01028-00233183-00233263 um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01029-00233264-00233519 to place the charges within the space is
dg2N-OUwMmo-01030-00233519-00233767 nearest to the tennis courts and that's
dg2N-OUwMmo-01031-00233767-00234015 both visibility disabled access and
dg2N-OUwMmo-01032-00234016-00234310 security points of view and it's also
dg2N-OUwMmo-01033-00234311-00234527 quite easily seen and when you access
dg2N-OUwMmo-01034-00234528-00234815 the car park because the flow is towards
dg2N-OUwMmo-01035-00234816-00235006 that and then route
dg2N-OUwMmo-01036-00235007-00235239 so there is also the opportunity to
dg2N-OUwMmo-01037-00235240-00235351 extend
dg2N-OUwMmo-01038-00235352-00235542 their um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01039-00235544-00235719 subject to bp pulse being very
dg2N-OUwMmo-01040-00235719-00235887 successful if they are successful in
dg2N-OUwMmo-01041-00235888-00236119 future there's opportunity to extend
dg2N-OUwMmo-01042-00236119-00236255 and then on the rear
dg2N-OUwMmo-01043-00236256-00236415 um there's bold bridge which is the
dg2N-OUwMmo-01044-00236416-00236623 cinema car park again
dg2N-OUwMmo-01045-00236623-00236855 um currently that's the highest uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-01046-00236856-00237134 turnover car park in terms of income
dg2N-OUwMmo-01047-00237135-00237271 there were two options that were
dg2N-OUwMmo-01048-00237271-00237455 explored a
dg2N-OUwMmo-01049-00237456-00237542 um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01050-00237544-00237831 which is near the exit onto onto the egg
dg2N-OUwMmo-01051-00237832-00238119 and b the entrance and in conjunction
dg2N-OUwMmo-01052-00238119-00238334 with council officers um it was felt
dg2N-OUwMmo-01053-00238335-00238591 that b was the best uh position there
dg2N-OUwMmo-01054-00238592-00238839 because um again visibility but also
dg2N-OUwMmo-01055-00238840-00239063 high profile off that road
dg2N-OUwMmo-01056-00239064-00239175 so um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01057-00239176-00239367 currently um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01058-00239367-00239631 we're waiting to hear back from bp pulse
dg2N-OUwMmo-01059-00239632-00239846 they've confirmed that
dg2N-OUwMmo-01060-00239848-00239991 they've got all of the information they
dg2N-OUwMmo-01061-00239992-00240271 need they need to just get approvals at
dg2N-OUwMmo-01062-00240271-00240446 their end now that they understand the
dg2N-OUwMmo-01063-00240448-00240703 costs of installation as you'll be aware
dg2N-OUwMmo-01064-00240704-00240910 they have to have
dg2N-OUwMmo-01065-00240911-00241110 a certain connection and certain power
dg2N-OUwMmo-01066-00241111-00241439 output in the areas that they do so um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01067-00241440-00241655 we we appreciate it's not quite as fast
dg2N-OUwMmo-01068-00241656-00241894 as we would have liked as well we we'd
dg2N-OUwMmo-01069-00241896-00242119 hoped this to be a bit quicker and we
dg2N-OUwMmo-01070-00242119-00242319 are chasing them and we hope to have an
dg2N-OUwMmo-01071-00242319-00242446 answer very soon
dg2N-OUwMmo-01072-00242448-00242751 um just for members purposes there is um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01073-00242752-00242991 to know that even if we get the go-ahead
dg2N-OUwMmo-01074-00242992-00243175 at the moment currently because of the
dg2N-OUwMmo-01075-00243176-00243375 um summer activities the river drive car
dg2N-OUwMmo-01076-00243376-00243703 park is out of bounds um from tonight
dg2N-OUwMmo-01077-00243704-00243879 until um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01078-00243880-00244119 i think it's the 20th of august so
dg2N-OUwMmo-01079-00244119-00244342 um even if b people's came back tomorrow
dg2N-OUwMmo-01080-00244344-00244575 we'd be able to do that um until
dg2N-OUwMmo-01081-00244576-00244839 september so and we're hoping um we're
dg2N-OUwMmo-01082-00244840-00245110 in regular contact with bp pulse they
dg2N-OUwMmo-01083-00245111-00245294 are doing a lot of these at the moment
dg2N-OUwMmo-01084-00245296-00245639 um but um you know we hope it's
dg2N-OUwMmo-01085-00245640-00245767 disappointing that i'm unable to give
dg2N-OUwMmo-01086-00245767-00246046 you a date tonight however and we're
dg2N-OUwMmo-01087-00246048-00246215 hopeful that that will be ratified
dg2N-OUwMmo-01088-00246216-00246351 quickly because we now know that
dg2N-OUwMmo-01089-00246352-00246510 everything has been resolved their end
dg2N-OUwMmo-01090-00246511-00246734 and all the queries have been sorted so
dg2N-OUwMmo-01091-00246735-00246967 um you know i hope to be able to report
dg2N-OUwMmo-01092-00246967-00247271 back very soon that we've got a date
dg2N-OUwMmo-01093-00247271-00247487 so i hope that answers any questions
dg2N-OUwMmo-01094-00247488-00247567 chair
dg2N-OUwMmo-01095-00247567-00247839 thank you matt um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01096-00247840-00248094 yeah that's that's really encouraging
dg2N-OUwMmo-01097-00248096-00248198 i'm i'm
dg2N-OUwMmo-01098-00248200-00248415 i feel we we are
dg2N-OUwMmo-01099-00248416-00248694 now making some some progress
dg2N-OUwMmo-01100-00248696-00248871 um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01101-00248871-00249110 in more recent times let's say than we
dg2N-OUwMmo-01102-00249111-00249494 have done in the past but um a quick
dg2N-OUwMmo-01103-00249496-00249719 question and i guess it's probably
dg2N-OUwMmo-01104-00249719-00249942 self-explanatory but how
dg2N-OUwMmo-01105-00249944-00250134 how will we monitor the usage i guess
dg2N-OUwMmo-01106-00250135-00250310 that's all in built within the within
dg2N-OUwMmo-01107-00250311-00250519 the machines
dg2N-OUwMmo-01108-00250519-00250863 that's correct the um i just from memory
dg2N-OUwMmo-01109-00250864-00251015 um the um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01110-00251016-00251198 the agreement that we've had has certain
dg2N-OUwMmo-01111-00251200-00251446 stipulations on information and that we
dg2N-OUwMmo-01112-00251448-00251630 can access i'd have to go and check that
dg2N-OUwMmo-01113-00251631-00251846 for you just to refresh myself with the
dg2N-OUwMmo-01114-00251848-00251975 agreement because it has been a while
dg2N-OUwMmo-01115-00251976-00252206 since i've seen it but um from memory
dg2N-OUwMmo-01116-00252207-00252415 yeah there is a data sharing agreement
dg2N-OUwMmo-01117-00252416-00252598 within that um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01118-00252600-00252767 yeah with it within that and we'll be
dg2N-OUwMmo-01119-00252767-00252894 able to compare that against the new
dg2N-OUwMmo-01120-00252896-00253119 software we've got um for the new
dg2N-OUwMmo-01121-00253119-00253303 software available for car parking would
dg2N-OUwMmo-01122-00253304-00253503 allow us to correlate information as
dg2N-OUwMmo-01123-00253504-00253719 well yeah i think i think that'd be
dg2N-OUwMmo-01124-00253719-00254006 that's quite useful i'm quite
dg2N-OUwMmo-01125-00254007-00254191 keen to see how that pans out actually
dg2N-OUwMmo-01126-00254192-00254430 because it will uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-01127-00254431-00254639 really sort of tell us where where the
dg2N-OUwMmo-01128-00254640-00254894 usage is so i think i think that's a
dg2N-OUwMmo-01129-00254896-00255094 good thing um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01130-00255096-00255319 questions or comments from
dg2N-OUwMmo-01131-00255319-00255598 anybody else
dg2N-OUwMmo-01132-00255600-00255775 john
dg2N-OUwMmo-01133-00255776-00256039 thank you hello matt um it's just i'm
dg2N-OUwMmo-01134-00256040-00256158 sure this has probably been mentioned
dg2N-OUwMmo-01135-00256159-00256455 before just for my own uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-01136-00256456-00256671 mind if you could tell me
dg2N-OUwMmo-01137-00256671-00256742 how
dg2N-OUwMmo-01138-00256744-00256982 what does installation of these
dg2N-OUwMmo-01139-00256983-00257215 points take is there an awful lot of
dg2N-OUwMmo-01140-00257216-00257446 digging a laying of cables
dg2N-OUwMmo-01141-00257448-00257591 how long does it take to actually
dg2N-OUwMmo-01142-00257592-00257894 establish one of these these points
dg2N-OUwMmo-01143-00257896-00258006 so um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01144-00258007-00258327 it it's site dependent so each site um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01145-00258328-00258534 is looked at independently it will
dg2N-OUwMmo-01146-00258535-00258871 be based about its proximity to a um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01147-00258871-00259119 a power supply so um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01148-00259119-00259334 i um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01149-00259335-00259455 you're sorry
dg2N-OUwMmo-01150-00259456-00259710 that's was after thank you cancer turner
dg2N-OUwMmo-01151-00259711-00259919 um proximity to the substation and the
dg2N-OUwMmo-01152-00259919-00260110 power within the local network so each
dg2N-OUwMmo-01153-00260111-00260239 site that's why they have to go into
dg2N-OUwMmo-01154-00260240-00260471 detail each site
dg2N-OUwMmo-01155-00260471-00260710 is very different so there are some car
dg2N-OUwMmo-01156-00260711-00260846 parts that were ruled out because there
dg2N-OUwMmo-01157-00260848-00261151 wasn't um adequate car um power supply
dg2N-OUwMmo-01158-00261152-00261463 near or that could be found so um these
dg2N-OUwMmo-01159-00261464-00261967 car parks have have that um the um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01160-00261967-00262271 the locations again have been chosen by
dg2N-OUwMmo-01161-00262272-00262510 i understand by bp pulse so they
dg2N-OUwMmo-01162-00262511-00262815 minimize the amount of um digging but
dg2N-OUwMmo-01163-00262816-00262958 there will of course be an element of
dg2N-OUwMmo-01164-00262959-00263175 that there might even be um in some
dg2N-OUwMmo-01165-00263176-00263327 cases i'm waiting to see about whether
dg2N-OUwMmo-01166-00263328-00263534 you know a further substation is needed
dg2N-OUwMmo-01167-00263535-00263806 at their cost um i don't think that's
dg2N-OUwMmo-01168-00263807-00263975 the case for these based on the
dg2N-OUwMmo-01169-00263976-00264206 locations and and i think like i said
dg2N-OUwMmo-01170-00264207-00264382 they've been chosen based on their
dg2N-OUwMmo-01171-00264383-00264663 proximity to substations
dg2N-OUwMmo-01172-00264664-00264823 but yeah there is always an element of
dg2N-OUwMmo-01173-00264824-00265167 um of works to them um it will just
dg2N-OUwMmo-01174-00265168-00265503 depend on each one um as we're not sort
dg2N-OUwMmo-01175-00265504-00265710 of um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01176-00265711-00265982 you know investing in that ourselves bp
dg2N-OUwMmo-01177-00265983-00266175 of that the sort of information we might
dg2N-OUwMmo-01178-00266176-00266382 get off them might be limited on that
dg2N-OUwMmo-01179-00266383-00266599 however we will know you know if there's
dg2N-OUwMmo-01180-00266600-00266823 any disturbance to the wider car park
dg2N-OUwMmo-01181-00266824-00267015 again if you look on both maps they've
dg2N-OUwMmo-01182-00267016-00267263 chosen them next to green space
dg2N-OUwMmo-01183-00267264-00267430 so and that can be easily put back
dg2N-OUwMmo-01184-00267431-00267687 rather than um you know tarmac or
dg2N-OUwMmo-01185-00267688-00267895 anything like that that um is a bit more
dg2N-OUwMmo-01186-00267896-00268151 troublesome to uh lane i hope that helps
dg2N-OUwMmo-01187-00268152-00268303 that's my knowledge of it that's the
dg2N-OUwMmo-01188-00268304-00268630 best i can offer i'm afraid
dg2N-OUwMmo-01189-00268631-00268855 thank you that's great thanks matt uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-01190-00268856-00269191 any other cherry
dg2N-OUwMmo-01191-00269192-00269351 just a brief comment
dg2N-OUwMmo-01192-00269352-00269551 delighted to see this delighted that
dg2N-OUwMmo-01193-00269552-00269734 we're making progress
dg2N-OUwMmo-01194-00269735-00269895 i think it's something that we we really
dg2N-OUwMmo-01195-00269896-00270039 need to do
dg2N-OUwMmo-01196-00270040-00270282 thank you well
dg2N-OUwMmo-01197-00270283-00270519 done paul
dg2N-OUwMmo-01198-00270520-00270727 yeah it's great to see that we're you
dg2N-OUwMmo-01199-00270728-00270927 know finally catching up but
dg2N-OUwMmo-01200-00270928-00271143 what is the future proofing of this
dg2N-OUwMmo-01201-00271144-00271334 because it's no doubt that electric cars
dg2N-OUwMmo-01202-00271335-00271527 is the way forward and everybody seems
dg2N-OUwMmo-01203-00271528-00271687 to be buying them and the demands going
dg2N-OUwMmo-01204-00271688-00271943 up and legal requirements are going up
dg2N-OUwMmo-01205-00271944-00272206 and we've only got four out of you know
dg2N-OUwMmo-01206-00272207-00272455 a town this size and
dg2N-OUwMmo-01207-00272456-00272623 the biggest problem i see is the power
dg2N-OUwMmo-01208-00272624-00272855 supply not just there but if all of a
dg2N-OUwMmo-01209-00272856-00273039 sudden they say well we need 10 or 20 or
dg2N-OUwMmo-01210-00273040-00273158 30
dg2N-OUwMmo-01211-00273159-00273319 are we going to put the power of cables
dg2N-OUwMmo-01212-00273320-00273575 in now
dg2N-OUwMmo-01213-00273576-00273758 to build it in or are we just going to
dg2N-OUwMmo-01214-00273759-00273951 put you know the facility for four and
dg2N-OUwMmo-01215-00273952-00274263 then hope
dg2N-OUwMmo-01216-00274264-00274447 so yeah well i think there's i think
dg2N-OUwMmo-01217-00274448-00274655 there's two sides to this i think so
dg2N-OUwMmo-01218-00274656-00274895 from you know um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01219-00274896-00275182 there's so from our perspective
dg2N-OUwMmo-01220-00275183-00275351 we've looked at it at the moment so in
dg2N-OUwMmo-01221-00275352-00275495 terms of your question around future
dg2N-OUwMmo-01222-00275496-00275719 proofing totally totally agree and i
dg2N-OUwMmo-01223-00275720-00275830 think there's a wider question there
dg2N-OUwMmo-01224-00275831-00276039 around general infrastructure and i
dg2N-OUwMmo-01225-00276040-00276263 think certainly you know western power
dg2N-OUwMmo-01226-00276264-00276406 in any discussions we've had them in the
dg2N-OUwMmo-01227-00276407-00276630 council from a regeneration perspective
dg2N-OUwMmo-01228-00276631-00276734 you know are
dg2N-OUwMmo-01229-00276735-00276975 quite um you know vocal now in their
dg2N-OUwMmo-01230-00276976-00277191 need for new foot substations so i think
dg2N-OUwMmo-01231-00277192-00277358 i think there's a wider question that i
dg2N-OUwMmo-01232-00277359-00277623 can't answer there around you know that
dg2N-OUwMmo-01233-00277624-00277839 from our perspective you know the bp
dg2N-OUwMmo-01234-00277840-00278071 pulse represents a good opportunity now
dg2N-OUwMmo-01235-00278072-00278319 to to test it to establish a market and
dg2N-OUwMmo-01236-00278320-00278519 then potentially roll out further i
dg2N-OUwMmo-01237-00278520-00278679 think you know conversations that have
dg2N-OUwMmo-01238-00278680-00278871 been had around further regeneration
dg2N-OUwMmo-01239-00278872-00279143 schemes around um you know
dg2N-OUwMmo-01240-00279144-00279391 potential future changes you know short
dg2N-OUwMmo-01241-00279392-00279671 term and medium term around car parks um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01242-00279672-00279903 you know will have infrastructure into
dg2N-OUwMmo-01243-00279904-00280263 them you know and i and i think um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01244-00280264-00280439 yeah but but i think it's a growing
dg2N-OUwMmo-01245-00280440-00280663 question and i think um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01246-00280664-00280903 anna can add more around on the strategy
dg2N-OUwMmo-01247-00280904-00281119 side that might you know might help you
dg2N-OUwMmo-01248-00281120-00281382 from that perspective
dg2N-OUwMmo-01249-00281383-00281679 thanks on a go for it okay thank you
dg2N-OUwMmo-01250-00281680-00281895 chair um just to say that there is a
dg2N-OUwMmo-01251-00281896-00282127 corporate project in the corporate plan
dg2N-OUwMmo-01252-00282128-00282310 which is we've just refreshed so for the
dg2N-OUwMmo-01253-00282311-00282551 next three years around an ev charging
dg2N-OUwMmo-01254-00282552-00282847 strategy that sits with myself
dg2N-OUwMmo-01255-00282848-00282927 and
dg2N-OUwMmo-01256-00282928-00283358 possibly matt um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01257-00283359-00283543 so we do have to do an ev charging
dg2N-OUwMmo-01258-00283544-00283863 strategy and we need to know what as an
dg2N-OUwMmo-01259-00283864-00284095 authority that means to us we need to
dg2N-OUwMmo-01260-00284096-00284310 articulate what we want from such a
dg2N-OUwMmo-01261-00284311-00284439 strategy
dg2N-OUwMmo-01262-00284440-00284551 and i think
dg2N-OUwMmo-01263-00284552-00284775 it's all very well responding to the old
dg2N-OUwMmo-01264-00284776-00285030 regeneration opportunity or putting it
dg2N-OUwMmo-01265-00285031-00285223 on our land in our car parks for example
dg2N-OUwMmo-01266-00285224-00285471 i think there are obvious
dg2N-OUwMmo-01267-00285472-00285734 ways in which we can deliver but there
dg2N-OUwMmo-01268-00285735-00285934 might be something more
dg2N-OUwMmo-01269-00285935-00286119 comprehensive or substantial that we
dg2N-OUwMmo-01270-00286120-00286254 might want to do
dg2N-OUwMmo-01271-00286255-00286479 so we might want to look at our open
dg2N-OUwMmo-01272-00286480-00286782 spaces or our parks our gardens you know
dg2N-OUwMmo-01273-00286783-00287054 it's it's a much bigger conversation
dg2N-OUwMmo-01274-00287055-00287263 that we need to have as an authority to
dg2N-OUwMmo-01275-00287264-00287447 articulate that strategy then we can
dg2N-OUwMmo-01276-00287448-00287671 look at how we might want to deliver it
dg2N-OUwMmo-01277-00287672-00287927 and who the best organizational company
dg2N-OUwMmo-01278-00287928-00288127 is that we can work with to do that and
dg2N-OUwMmo-01279-00288128-00288271 that's when you might get your future
dg2N-OUwMmo-01280-00288272-00288495 proofing because if we can go to someone
dg2N-OUwMmo-01281-00288496-00288806 and say actually as an authority we want
dg2N-OUwMmo-01282-00288807-00288927 x
dg2N-OUwMmo-01283-00288928-00289143 charging points in this
dg2N-OUwMmo-01284-00289144-00289415 broad location they might then
dg2N-OUwMmo-01285-00289416-00289719 upscale their those networks to sort of
dg2N-OUwMmo-01286-00289720-00289919 to help accommodate the ambition that we
dg2N-OUwMmo-01287-00289920-00290143 have so until we i think can actually
dg2N-OUwMmo-01288-00290144-00290367 express what it is that we might want to
dg2N-OUwMmo-01289-00290368-00290599 see as an authority i think it's quite
dg2N-OUwMmo-01290-00290600-00290823 hard to sort of
dg2N-OUwMmo-01291-00290824-00291271 reflect it from the other side so
dg2N-OUwMmo-01292-00291272-00291479 the ev charging strategy is is a
dg2N-OUwMmo-01293-00291480-00291630 corporate project that needs to be
dg2N-OUwMmo-01294-00291631-00291910 delivered um and it's an important one i
dg2N-OUwMmo-01295-00291911-00292054 know that there's there's a lot of
dg2N-OUwMmo-01296-00292055-00292254 ambition for members to have more ev
dg2N-OUwMmo-01297-00292255-00292399 charging points within within the
dg2N-OUwMmo-01298-00292400-00292558 borough for good reasons and not
dg2N-OUwMmo-01299-00292559-00292879 necessarily just house center
dg2N-OUwMmo-01300-00292880-00293110 yeah
dg2N-OUwMmo-01301-00293111-00293279 neighbours they've just had one put in
dg2N-OUwMmo-01302-00293280-00293423 the road they actually dig the road up
dg2N-OUwMmo-01303-00293424-00293599 because there's not enough power to that
dg2N-OUwMmo-01304-00293600-00293743 house yeah
dg2N-OUwMmo-01305-00293744-00294082 and you know so i watched them for one
dg2N-OUwMmo-01306-00294083-00294406 car three vans electric diggers dig it
dg2N-OUwMmo-01307-00294407-00294687 up come back put pipes in more cables
dg2N-OUwMmo-01308-00294688-00294854 then fill it back up the next day again
dg2N-OUwMmo-01309-00294855-00295063 with all diesel generators
dg2N-OUwMmo-01310-00295064-00295175 and then
dg2N-OUwMmo-01311-00295176-00295334 to that one house and i thought well
dg2N-OUwMmo-01312-00295335-00295534 surely there's 25 houses in my street
dg2N-OUwMmo-01313-00295535-00295663 why didn't anybody knock on the door and
dg2N-OUwMmo-01314-00295664-00295806 say are you thinking about this in the
dg2N-OUwMmo-01315-00295807-00296215 future and shall we do all the houses
dg2N-OUwMmo-01316-00296216-00296439 the best of it is she sold the car after
dg2N-OUwMmo-01317-00296440-00296734 six weeks saying i keep having anxiety
dg2N-OUwMmo-01318-00296735-00296927 so it's
dg2N-OUwMmo-01319-00296928-00297079 i think that's yeah i mean there's a
dg2N-OUwMmo-01320-00297080-00297254 different conversation completely there
dg2N-OUwMmo-01321-00297255-00297391 but uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-01322-00297392-00297510 anna do you want to come back in and i
dg2N-OUwMmo-01323-00297511-00297687 know steve wants to make a comment as
dg2N-OUwMmo-01324-00297688-00297782 well
dg2N-OUwMmo-01325-00297783-00298103 um just to say that um i sit on a senior
dg2N-OUwMmo-01326-00298104-00298351 sustainability sustainability offices
dg2N-OUwMmo-01327-00298352-00298487 group which is
dg2N-OUwMmo-01328-00298488-00298734 staffordshire wide and we met today we
dg2N-OUwMmo-01329-00298735-00298895 meet every month to look at
dg2N-OUwMmo-01330-00298896-00299103 opportunities across districts and
dg2N-OUwMmo-01331-00299104-00299327 boroughs because we've all got the same
dg2N-OUwMmo-01332-00299328-00299558 issues so we don't necessarily have to
dg2N-OUwMmo-01333-00299559-00299654 deliver
dg2N-OUwMmo-01334-00299655-00299823 certain strategies in isolation when
dg2N-OUwMmo-01335-00299824-00299951 we're all trying to achieve the same
dg2N-OUwMmo-01336-00299952-00300191 thing so today we actually had as it
dg2N-OUwMmo-01337-00300192-00300454 happens a conversation about ev strategy
dg2N-OUwMmo-01338-00300455-00300654 so i am aware as a result of today's
dg2N-OUwMmo-01339-00300655-00300967 conversation that the county council
dg2N-OUwMmo-01340-00300968-00301167 have drafted a strategy it's not quite
dg2N-OUwMmo-01341-00301168-00301430 ready for circulation so i can't promise
dg2N-OUwMmo-01342-00301431-00301663 to deliver anything or comment on it but
dg2N-OUwMmo-01343-00301664-00301903 i know that one has been done and that's
dg2N-OUwMmo-01344-00301904-00302191 key because a lot of um charging is a
dg2N-OUwMmo-01345-00302192-00302482 sort of a highways issue
dg2N-OUwMmo-01346-00302483-00302791 um not everyone has a driveway to park
dg2N-OUwMmo-01347-00302792-00302991 their car and charge a vehicle and
dg2N-OUwMmo-01348-00302992-00303199 people live in flatted or apartmented
dg2N-OUwMmo-01349-00303200-00303423 accommodation where you haven't got
dg2N-OUwMmo-01350-00303424-00303591 necessarily access
dg2N-OUwMmo-01351-00303592-00303799 um to an ev charging point really
dg2N-OUwMmo-01352-00303800-00304006 quickly so i think the county council
dg2N-OUwMmo-01353-00304007-00304206 have quite a large role to play in any
dg2N-OUwMmo-01354-00304207-00304343 strategy that comes forward because of
dg2N-OUwMmo-01355-00304344-00304479 that highways
dg2N-OUwMmo-01356-00304480-00304727 connection um but then i was also
dg2N-OUwMmo-01357-00304728-00304895 talking um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01358-00304896-00305047 with colleagues at south staffordshire
dg2N-OUwMmo-01359-00305048-00305303 authority who have written a draft ev
dg2N-OUwMmo-01360-00305304-00305543 strategy looking at charging on their
dg2N-OUwMmo-01361-00305544-00305887 own land um so comprehensively across a
dg2N-OUwMmo-01362-00305888-00306030 network of villages and towns that they
dg2N-OUwMmo-01363-00306031-00306191 have it's a bit different
dg2N-OUwMmo-01364-00306192-00306439 it's more more of a rural area but again
dg2N-OUwMmo-01365-00306440-00306606 they were looking at opportunities to
dg2N-OUwMmo-01366-00306607-00306919 work more collaboratively so i think the
dg2N-OUwMmo-01367-00306920-00307343 conversations are starting to be held
dg2N-OUwMmo-01368-00307344-00307534 on a level that's not necessarily
dg2N-OUwMmo-01369-00307535-00307767 tamworth specific
dg2N-OUwMmo-01370-00307768-00307934 but i think there's a lot to learn from
dg2N-OUwMmo-01371-00307935-00308063 others
dg2N-OUwMmo-01372-00308064-00308230 and i think that's something that will
dg2N-OUwMmo-01373-00308231-00308439 develop you know over the next year or
dg2N-OUwMmo-01374-00308440-00308606 two but
dg2N-OUwMmo-01375-00308607-00308695 okay
dg2N-OUwMmo-01376-00308696-00308839 thank thanks
dg2N-OUwMmo-01377-00308840-00309030 your final comments have probably just
dg2N-OUwMmo-01378-00309031-00309167 sort of answered a question i was going
dg2N-OUwMmo-01379-00309168-00309447 to ask actually on on time scales but
dg2N-OUwMmo-01380-00309448-00309654 steve
dg2N-OUwMmo-01381-00309655-00309934 just one comment um well actually two
dg2N-OUwMmo-01382-00309935-00310087 it's i sit on
dg2N-OUwMmo-01383-00310088-00310319 the sustainability board
dg2N-OUwMmo-01384-00310320-00310558 as well and um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01385-00310559-00310823 it's a recognized discussion there that
dg2N-OUwMmo-01386-00310824-00311071 what we are making judgments on today
dg2N-OUwMmo-01387-00311072-00311287 will not be tomorrow's technology in
dg2N-OUwMmo-01388-00311288-00311430 five years things will change
dg2N-OUwMmo-01389-00311431-00311567 considerably
dg2N-OUwMmo-01390-00311568-00311854 we face a number of issues
dg2N-OUwMmo-01391-00311855-00312158 not just as tamworth but as a country on
dg2N-OUwMmo-01392-00312159-00312430 how we generate and supply electricity
dg2N-OUwMmo-01393-00312431-00312703 and that's a much wider discussion
dg2N-OUwMmo-01394-00312704-00312951 i mean i can see solar panels becoming a
dg2N-OUwMmo-01395-00312952-00313110 lot more popular and a lot more
dg2N-OUwMmo-01396-00313111-00313310 efficient
dg2N-OUwMmo-01397-00313311-00313406 as
dg2N-OUwMmo-01398-00313407-00313615 a
dg2N-OUwMmo-01399-00313616-00313910 employee in the car sector
dg2N-OUwMmo-01400-00313911-00314110 what you're seeing that what
dg2N-OUwMmo-01401-00314111-00314319 when the models were originally launched
dg2N-OUwMmo-01402-00314320-00314527 you were looking at around about 200
dg2N-OUwMmo-01403-00314528-00314734 miles out of the battery
dg2N-OUwMmo-01404-00314735-00315054 now that's now gone up to 400
dg2N-OUwMmo-01405-00315055-00315223 in a couple of years time that could
dg2N-OUwMmo-01406-00315224-00315454 double again and then triple
dg2N-OUwMmo-01407-00315455-00315671 so the idea of pro
dg2N-OUwMmo-01408-00315672-00315839 and also the way that you charge the
dg2N-OUwMmo-01409-00315840-00316087 vehicle it may not be through better
dg2N-OUwMmo-01410-00316088-00316310 solar panels than that that you don't
dg2N-OUwMmo-01411-00316311-00316599 need to put extra cabling it you're able
dg2N-OUwMmo-01412-00316600-00316782 to generate the electricity that powers
dg2N-OUwMmo-01413-00316783-00316982 your own car the cars are going to get
dg2N-OUwMmo-01414-00316983-00317215 lighter and more efficient at what they
dg2N-OUwMmo-01415-00317216-00317334 do
dg2N-OUwMmo-01416-00317335-00317567 so all this is coming and there's a lot
dg2N-OUwMmo-01417-00317568-00317839 of changes ahead
dg2N-OUwMmo-01418-00317840-00318047 i get to see some of it but not all of
dg2N-OUwMmo-01419-00318048-00318167 it
dg2N-OUwMmo-01420-00318168-00318406 so it's
dg2N-OUwMmo-01421-00318407-00318606 we have to be cautious about how much we
dg2N-OUwMmo-01422-00318607-00318782 invest in putting in
dg2N-OUwMmo-01423-00318783-00319054 and charging bays around the town
dg2N-OUwMmo-01424-00319055-00319215 because it's
dg2N-OUwMmo-01425-00319216-00319415 the idea for the car industry is that
dg2N-OUwMmo-01426-00319416-00319623 you will go out in your car and you
dg2N-OUwMmo-01427-00319624-00319887 won't need to stop off to charge it or
dg2N-OUwMmo-01428-00319888-00320054 there'll be a there should be more than
dg2N-OUwMmo-01429-00320055-00320279 enough charge to get you there get you
dg2N-OUwMmo-01430-00320280-00320406 home
dg2N-OUwMmo-01431-00320407-00320630 and it's like um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01432-00320631-00320847 how you use petrol stations now
dg2N-OUwMmo-01433-00320848-00321063 we only use them when we need them not
dg2N-OUwMmo-01434-00321064-00321287 because we have to
dg2N-OUwMmo-01435-00321288-00322479 so thank you that's all i wanted to say
dg2N-OUwMmo-01436-00322480-00322799 any other questions or comments
dg2N-OUwMmo-01437-00322800-00323223 okay uh well thanks very much matt um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01438-00323224-00323471 and i'll stay for you for you for you
dg2N-OUwMmo-01439-00323472-00323910 your uh your words on that i think uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-01440-00323911-00324079 it it's not going to go away from my
dg2N-OUwMmo-01441-00324080-00324334 point of view on scrutiny so i certainly
dg2N-OUwMmo-01442-00324335-00324503 will invite you back at some point in
dg2N-OUwMmo-01443-00324504-00324743 the future with with further further
dg2N-OUwMmo-01444-00324744-00325054 updates i'm sure
dg2N-OUwMmo-01445-00325055-00325230 thanks very much for your for your time
dg2N-OUwMmo-01446-00325231-00325606 and yeah you're free to leave matt
dg2N-OUwMmo-01447-00325607-00326447 thank you chair
dg2N-OUwMmo-01448-00326448-00326534 okay
dg2N-OUwMmo-01449-00326535-00326806 so we're on to item nine
dg2N-OUwMmo-01450-00326807-00327054 which is the petition to stop the
dg2N-OUwMmo-01451-00327055-00327310 netting of hedges in tamworth um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01452-00327311-00327510 members may uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-01453-00327511-00327703 may remember this is this is was
dg2N-OUwMmo-01454-00327704-00327863 something that was uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-01455-00327864-00328158 that was brought to full council via
dg2N-OUwMmo-01456-00328159-00328287 a petition
dg2N-OUwMmo-01457-00328288-00328447 um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01458-00328448-00328767 and full council it was uh it was dealt
dg2N-OUwMmo-01459-00328768-00328991 with by um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01460-00328992-00329334 referring it to scrutiny to to look at
dg2N-OUwMmo-01461-00329335-00329369 um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01462-00329370-00329487 [Music]
dg2N-OUwMmo-01463-00329488-00329767 i think it was back in march yeah
dg2N-OUwMmo-01464-00329768-00329839 so
dg2N-OUwMmo-01465-00329840-00330063 um i'm gonna hand it straight over to
dg2N-OUwMmo-01466-00330064-00330399 anna to uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-01467-00330400-00330599 give us the report we've obviously
dg2N-OUwMmo-01468-00330600-00330782 already had the report but uh just to
dg2N-OUwMmo-01469-00330783-00330999 take us through it um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01470-00331000-00331143 and then we'll we'll see where that
dg2N-OUwMmo-01471-00331144-00331334 leads thank you
dg2N-OUwMmo-01472-00331335-00331654 lovely thank you chair so so yes um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01473-00331655-00331927 petition submitted in march it had
dg2N-OUwMmo-01474-00331928-00332287 600 signatures essentially um asking for
dg2N-OUwMmo-01475-00332288-00332599 that to stop the netting of hedgerows um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01476-00332600-00332895 by developers in tamworth so it yes it
dg2N-OUwMmo-01477-00332896-00333182 went to full council a number of points
dg2N-OUwMmo-01478-00333183-00333358 were in the minutes one was that it came
dg2N-OUwMmo-01479-00333359-00333623 back to came to this particular scrutiny
dg2N-OUwMmo-01480-00333624-00333815 committee with a view that this
dg2N-OUwMmo-01481-00333816-00333999 committee will write a report that goes
dg2N-OUwMmo-01482-00334000-00334247 back to cabinet later in the year and
dg2N-OUwMmo-01483-00334248-00334447 before the sort of breeding season so
dg2N-OUwMmo-01484-00334448-00334639 that if there is anything that we can do
dg2N-OUwMmo-01485-00334640-00334854 we're catching it before the issue
dg2N-OUwMmo-01486-00334855-00335110 cycles rounds into next year
dg2N-OUwMmo-01487-00335111-00335310 that was that was a really key sort of
dg2N-OUwMmo-01488-00335311-00335534 time timeline if you like
dg2N-OUwMmo-01489-00335535-00335703 but in particular
dg2N-OUwMmo-01490-00335704-00335999 um full council referred to the national
dg2N-OUwMmo-01491-00336000-00336327 planning policy framework and also
dg2N-OUwMmo-01492-00336328-00336591 new environmental legislation
dg2N-OUwMmo-01493-00336592-00336775 currently before the commons which
dg2N-OUwMmo-01494-00336776-00337006 actually i've reflected in the report is
dg2N-OUwMmo-01495-00337007-00337351 the environment act uh 2021 so it's not
dg2N-OUwMmo-01496-00337352-00337463 in front of the commons it's actually
dg2N-OUwMmo-01497-00337464-00337743 enacted so it's part of our statutory
dg2N-OUwMmo-01498-00337744-00337943 legislation
dg2N-OUwMmo-01499-00337944-00338110 so i just thought
dg2N-OUwMmo-01500-00338111-00338254 so at the bottom of the page i just
dg2N-OUwMmo-01501-00338255-00338415 thought i'd set out what the issue is
dg2N-OUwMmo-01502-00338416-00338654 before then going on to kind of explain
dg2N-OUwMmo-01503-00338655-00338895 the legislation around it so the issue
dg2N-OUwMmo-01504-00338896-00339158 of netting hedges um came to the
dg2N-OUwMmo-01505-00339159-00339503 forefront in 2019 a number of national
dg2N-OUwMmo-01506-00339504-00339782 newspapers and and tv lots of media
dg2N-OUwMmo-01507-00339783-00340071 picked up that suddenly developers were
dg2N-OUwMmo-01508-00340072-00340278 were netting hedges and not just for a
dg2N-OUwMmo-01509-00340279-00340503 week or for two weeks but it was for a
dg2N-OUwMmo-01510-00340504-00340703 year or two years it was for a
dg2N-OUwMmo-01511-00340704-00340895 substantial amount of time and they were
dg2N-OUwMmo-01512-00340896-00341167 very very visible um because they would
dg2N-OUwMmo-01513-00341168-00341351 um if it was a hedgerow they would they
dg2N-OUwMmo-01514-00341352-00341503 would cover it and it could be quite a
dg2N-OUwMmo-01515-00341504-00341734 large hedgerow or trees and it would it
dg2N-OUwMmo-01516-00341735-00341991 would cover the canopy of the trees it
dg2N-OUwMmo-01517-00341992-00342182 was incredibly visible so it suddenly
dg2N-OUwMmo-01518-00342183-00342351 came to the fore and it went across the
dg2N-OUwMmo-01519-00342352-00342487 media
dg2N-OUwMmo-01520-00342488-00342727 and so so that's why it suddenly became
dg2N-OUwMmo-01521-00342728-00343030 an issue um and there was a petition
dg2N-OUwMmo-01522-00343031-00343271 that went to government with hundreds of
dg2N-OUwMmo-01523-00343272-00343495 thousands of people asking exactly the
dg2N-OUwMmo-01524-00343496-00343678 same question that was asked of this
dg2N-OUwMmo-01525-00343679-00343871 petition is to stop the netting of
dg2N-OUwMmo-01526-00343872-00344134 hedges so there was a hearing very very
dg2N-OUwMmo-01527-00344135-00344351 quickly when that petition went in the
dg2N-OUwMmo-01528-00344352-00344567 government had a hearing almost within
dg2N-OUwMmo-01529-00344568-00344839 weeks of the issue almost exploding onto
dg2N-OUwMmo-01530-00344840-00345103 into everyone's sort of front rooms
dg2N-OUwMmo-01531-00345104-00345295 and they had a hearing about this this
dg2N-OUwMmo-01532-00345296-00345415 very thing
dg2N-OUwMmo-01533-00345416-00345591 so essentially
dg2N-OUwMmo-01534-00345592-00345839 it's the wildlife and countryside act
dg2N-OUwMmo-01535-00345840-00346103 dated 1981 which i'll go into in a
dg2N-OUwMmo-01536-00346104-00346310 second but that's why developers have
dg2N-OUwMmo-01537-00346311-00346510 been using nets to cover hedgerows and
dg2N-OUwMmo-01538-00346511-00346606 trees
dg2N-OUwMmo-01539-00346607-00346839 um they cover them with netting around
dg2N-OUwMmo-01540-00346840-00346967 the sites
dg2N-OUwMmo-01541-00346968-00347254 before any bird nesting activity begins
dg2N-OUwMmo-01542-00347255-00347334 so
dg2N-OUwMmo-01543-00347335-00347558 because and i'll come on to why in the
dg2N-OUwMmo-01544-00347559-00347727 wildlife and countryside
dg2N-OUwMmo-01545-00347728-00347910 countryside act it could stop or
dg2N-OUwMmo-01546-00347911-00348095 restrict building during the summer
dg2N-OUwMmo-01547-00348096-00348239 months
dg2N-OUwMmo-01548-00348240-00348439 so essentially they're mitigating their
dg2N-OUwMmo-01549-00348440-00348543 risk
dg2N-OUwMmo-01550-00348544-00348806 of essentially making a criminal act
dg2N-OUwMmo-01551-00348807-00348934 against that the wildlife and
dg2N-OUwMmo-01552-00348935-00349158 countryside act so under that act it's
dg2N-OUwMmo-01553-00349159-00349406 an offence under section 1
dg2N-OUwMmo-01554-00349407-00349647 to intentionally take damage destroy the
dg2N-OUwMmo-01555-00349648-00349943 nest of any wild bird bird while it's in
dg2N-OUwMmo-01556-00349944-00350223 use or being built or to intentionally
dg2N-OUwMmo-01557-00350224-00350495 kill injure or take chicks or adults or
dg2N-OUwMmo-01558-00350496-00350710 to intentionally take or destroy any
dg2N-OUwMmo-01559-00350711-00350791 eggs
dg2N-OUwMmo-01560-00350792-00351039 anything to do with wild birds therefore
dg2N-OUwMmo-01561-00351040-00351423 in that breeding nesting activity is
dg2N-OUwMmo-01562-00351424-00351775 is protected in law
dg2N-OUwMmo-01563-00351776-00351958 so within that act there are actually no
dg2N-OUwMmo-01564-00351959-00352054 dates
dg2N-OUwMmo-01565-00352055-00352278 legally stated between which hedges
dg2N-OUwMmo-01566-00352279-00352551 cannot be trimmed cut laid or coppiced
dg2N-OUwMmo-01567-00352552-00352863 however the main bird breeding season
dg2N-OUwMmo-01568-00352864-00353134 is recognized as being between the 1st
dg2N-OUwMmo-01569-00353135-00353503 of march and the 31st of august
dg2N-OUwMmo-01570-00353504-00353671 ish
dg2N-OUwMmo-01571-00353672-00353782 um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01572-00353783-00354039 so the risk of committing any of the of
dg2N-OUwMmo-01573-00354040-00354239 the offences as i've just set out is
dg2N-OUwMmo-01574-00354240-00354358 increased
dg2N-OUwMmo-01575-00354359-00354534 between those dates so if you're going
dg2N-OUwMmo-01576-00354535-00354791 to undertake any work on a tree or hedge
dg2N-OUwMmo-01577-00354792-00354967 you might not be a developer it could be
dg2N-OUwMmo-01578-00354968-00355287 your yourself in your back garden um if
dg2N-OUwMmo-01579-00355288-00355454 you're going to do it between those days
dg2N-OUwMmo-01580-00355455-00355639 it's recommended that you check for
dg2N-OUwMmo-01581-00355640-00355919 signs first for wild bird activity for
dg2N-OUwMmo-01582-00355920-00356175 breeding for nests etcetera and you
dg2N-OUwMmo-01583-00356176-00356367 should observe from a distance using
dg2N-OUwMmo-01584-00356368-00356678 binoculars and also direct like a
dg2N-OUwMmo-01585-00356679-00357063 fingertip search of the hedge or tree to
dg2N-OUwMmo-01586-00357064-00357310 check that there is
dg2N-OUwMmo-01587-00357311-00357551 no wild bird residing within that
dg2N-OUwMmo-01588-00357552-00357815 particular habitat
dg2N-OUwMmo-01589-00357816-00358030 so if a developer who's removing a
dg2N-OUwMmo-01590-00358031-00358206 hedgehog or tree as part of a planning
dg2N-OUwMmo-01591-00358207-00358495 consent um they net it so that they
dg2N-OUwMmo-01592-00358496-00358678 don't undertake works essentially
dg2N-OUwMmo-01593-00358679-00358830 illegally
dg2N-OUwMmo-01594-00358831-00359030 should while birds be present
dg2N-OUwMmo-01595-00359031-00359278 so therefore it's essentially mitigation
dg2N-OUwMmo-01596-00359279-00359534 for the developer so that they don't
dg2N-OUwMmo-01597-00359535-00359663 fall foul of the wildlife and
dg2N-OUwMmo-01598-00359664-00359934 countryside act
dg2N-OUwMmo-01599-00359935-00360278 so um just as a just sort of moving on
dg2N-OUwMmo-01600-00360279-00360471 if you do suspect that an offence has
dg2N-OUwMmo-01601-00360472-00360743 been committed um the local police force
dg2N-OUwMmo-01602-00360744-00360903 says staffordshire police they do have a
dg2N-OUwMmo-01603-00360904-00361191 wildlife officer who can get involved
dg2N-OUwMmo-01604-00361192-00361351 and we have actually got them involved
dg2N-OUwMmo-01605-00361352-00361567 in some of the sites in tamworth they've
dg2N-OUwMmo-01606-00361568-00361863 been quite active in that respect um and
dg2N-OUwMmo-01607-00361864-00362047 you get a crime number like you would
dg2N-OUwMmo-01608-00362048-00362278 with any particular criminal offence
dg2N-OUwMmo-01609-00362279-00362463 that might happen so it's treated with
dg2N-OUwMmo-01610-00362464-00362630 the same sort of level of respect as
dg2N-OUwMmo-01611-00362631-00362863 anything else really important
dg2N-OUwMmo-01612-00362864-00363175 so natural england who sort of set out
dg2N-OUwMmo-01613-00363176-00363278 really
dg2N-OUwMmo-01614-00363279-00363454 what you might expect from a wildlife
dg2N-OUwMmo-01615-00363455-00363671 perspective
dg2N-OUwMmo-01616-00363672-00363775 they
dg2N-OUwMmo-01617-00363776-00364006 their approach is
dg2N-OUwMmo-01618-00364007-00364254 they would rather developers take a
dg2N-OUwMmo-01619-00364255-00364551 proportionate approach to netting
dg2N-OUwMmo-01620-00364552-00364623 so
dg2N-OUwMmo-01621-00364624-00364791 you know rather than netting a hedge for
dg2N-OUwMmo-01622-00364792-00365078 three years think about it do it for
dg2N-OUwMmo-01623-00365079-00365239 something that's a bit more
dg2N-OUwMmo-01624-00365240-00365375 proportionate to what you're trying to
dg2N-OUwMmo-01625-00365376-00365527 achieve
dg2N-OUwMmo-01626-00365528-00365695 but they they've they've never come out
dg2N-OUwMmo-01627-00365696-00365887 and said don't do it because actually
dg2N-OUwMmo-01628-00365888-00366071 the legislation doesn't exist for them
dg2N-OUwMmo-01629-00366072-00366399 to to to say it so it for them it's more
dg2N-OUwMmo-01630-00366400-00366543 about
dg2N-OUwMmo-01631-00366544-00366799 guidance around the mesh size
dg2N-OUwMmo-01632-00366800-00366967 so that other wildlife isn't being
dg2N-OUwMmo-01633-00366968-00367191 trapped in there or if they are they can
dg2N-OUwMmo-01634-00367192-00367527 escape quite easily etc um and they do
dg2N-OUwMmo-01635-00367528-00367815 themselves recognize that netting hedges
dg2N-OUwMmo-01636-00367816-00368191 does have a role to play at times within
dg2N-OUwMmo-01637-00368192-00368527 the the development um in it
dg2N-OUwMmo-01638-00368528-00368639 with with the development of a
dg2N-OUwMmo-01639-00368640-00368927 particular site so even natural england
dg2N-OUwMmo-01640-00368928-00369134 who you might think would be
dg2N-OUwMmo-01641-00369135-00369487 diametrically opposed um i've actually
dg2N-OUwMmo-01642-00369488-00369678 acknowledged that
dg2N-OUwMmo-01643-00369679-00369878 mitigation is sometimes an appropriate
dg2N-OUwMmo-01644-00369879-00370134 thing for developers to achieve um for
dg2N-OUwMmo-01645-00370135-00370463 the sake of protecting wild birds
dg2N-OUwMmo-01646-00370464-00370639 so just moving on in the report i've
dg2N-OUwMmo-01647-00370640-00370927 just set out briefly that we do have a
dg2N-OUwMmo-01648-00370928-00371215 national wildlife crime unit nationally
dg2N-OUwMmo-01649-00371216-00371334 who
dg2N-OUwMmo-01650-00371335-00371687 are really important in investigating um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01651-00371688-00371902 you know quite serious or organized
dg2N-OUwMmo-01652-00371903-00372199 wildlife crime but they do also provide
dg2N-OUwMmo-01653-00372200-00372423 an advisory service to the local police
dg2N-OUwMmo-01654-00372424-00372671 forces for issues such as this so
dg2N-OUwMmo-01655-00372672-00372871 there's a role there to play i just
dg2N-OUwMmo-01656-00372872-00373030 wanted to demonstrate that they do have
dg2N-OUwMmo-01657-00373031-00373230 a national voice along with some of
dg2N-OUwMmo-01658-00373231-00373447 these others like developers
dg2N-OUwMmo-01659-00373448-00373630 etc
dg2N-OUwMmo-01660-00373631-00373882 so moving on to the environment act
dg2N-OUwMmo-01661-00373883-00374334 2021 so very very new legislation
dg2N-OUwMmo-01662-00374335-00374591 but the bit that's really key is part
dg2N-OUwMmo-01663-00374592-00374695 six
dg2N-OUwMmo-01664-00374696-00375191 which deals with nature and biodiversity
dg2N-OUwMmo-01665-00375192-00375478 sorry to say but paragraph 98
dg2N-OUwMmo-01666-00375479-00375758 with specific reference to schedule 14
dg2N-OUwMmo-01667-00375759-00376063 um makes provision for biodiversity gain
dg2N-OUwMmo-01668-00376064-00376327 to be a condition of planning permission
dg2N-OUwMmo-01669-00376328-00376510 in england
dg2N-OUwMmo-01670-00376511-00376695 this is quite a new thing actually
dg2N-OUwMmo-01671-00376696-00376927 coming through the act
dg2N-OUwMmo-01672-00376928-00377230 and it was a direct consequence of the
dg2N-OUwMmo-01673-00377231-00377630 petition that went to government in 2019
dg2N-OUwMmo-01674-00377631-00377823 the response from government was to kind
dg2N-OUwMmo-01675-00377824-00378087 of say to developers one
dg2N-OUwMmo-01676-00378088-00378206 think about what you're doing with
dg2N-OUwMmo-01677-00378207-00378430 respect to nets and be proportionate but
dg2N-OUwMmo-01678-00378431-00378719 two that biodiversity net gain would now
dg2N-OUwMmo-01679-00378720-00379063 become um something that was required
dg2N-OUwMmo-01680-00379064-00379215 through the planning process so the
dg2N-OUwMmo-01681-00379216-00379382 environment act essentially puts that
dg2N-OUwMmo-01682-00379383-00379567 into legislation
dg2N-OUwMmo-01683-00379568-00379743 and so
dg2N-OUwMmo-01684-00379744-00380071 we we are now required to have a 10
dg2N-OUwMmo-01685-00380072-00380287 biodiversity net gain
dg2N-OUwMmo-01686-00380288-00380495 um which needs to be maintained for a
dg2N-OUwMmo-01687-00380496-00380791 period of at least 30 years um that has
dg2N-OUwMmo-01688-00380792-00381119 to be part of planning applications
dg2N-OUwMmo-01689-00381120-00381439 it's about having a green future and
dg2N-OUwMmo-01690-00381440-00381534 it's
dg2N-OUwMmo-01691-00381535-00381782 part of the conservative strategy which
dg2N-OUwMmo-01692-00381783-00382030 is a 25-year plan to improve the
dg2N-OUwMmo-01693-00382031-00382143 environment
dg2N-OUwMmo-01694-00382144-00382287 when you have an application it's got to
dg2N-OUwMmo-01695-00382288-00382471 be better at the end of it than it was
dg2N-OUwMmo-01696-00382472-00382702 before you started it is essentially
dg2N-OUwMmo-01697-00382703-00382967 is essentially the the idea of it
dg2N-OUwMmo-01698-00382968-00383247 so that has now cascaded down into the
dg2N-OUwMmo-01699-00383248-00383478 national planning policy framework also
dg2N-OUwMmo-01700-00383479-00383702 was amended in 2021
dg2N-OUwMmo-01701-00383703-00383975 and picked up the environment act and so
dg2N-OUwMmo-01702-00383976-00384295 it now also says it 10 biodiversity net
dg2N-OUwMmo-01703-00384296-00384551 gain which we do as an authority do not
dg2N-OUwMmo-01704-00384552-00384775 all applications qualify
dg2N-OUwMmo-01705-00384776-00384919 if you're going to change your windows
dg2N-OUwMmo-01706-00384920-00385119 on your house we wouldn't expect you to
dg2N-OUwMmo-01707-00385120-00385391 have a biodiversity net gain but um for
dg2N-OUwMmo-01708-00385392-00385734 a large application we would expect it
dg2N-OUwMmo-01709-00385735-00386095 um and we always refer applications to
dg2N-OUwMmo-01710-00386096-00386239 staffordshire
dg2N-OUwMmo-01711-00386240-00386527 the county council ecologist
dg2N-OUwMmo-01712-00386528-00386782 who always supports us in deciding if
dg2N-OUwMmo-01713-00386783-00387015 it's possible and what they can and
dg2N-OUwMmo-01714-00387016-00387119 can't do
dg2N-OUwMmo-01715-00387120-00387406 to achieve that 10
dg2N-OUwMmo-01716-00387407-00387478 10
dg2N-OUwMmo-01717-00387479-00387639 is actually quite a lot
dg2N-OUwMmo-01718-00387640-00387975 when you think of a large housing site
dg2N-OUwMmo-01719-00387976-00388167 on a small site
dg2N-OUwMmo-01720-00388168-00388334 you know it might just be planting a
dg2N-OUwMmo-01721-00388335-00388606 tree is 10 better you know that's very
dg2N-OUwMmo-01722-00388607-00388758 achievable but when you've got a large
dg2N-OUwMmo-01723-00388759-00389047 site it's actually very challenging and
dg2N-OUwMmo-01724-00389048-00389151 i think
dg2N-OUwMmo-01725-00389152-00389415 where it where it goes back to netting
dg2N-OUwMmo-01726-00389416-00389575 is that developers now have a
dg2N-OUwMmo-01727-00389576-00389823 responsibility perhaps to think a little
dg2N-OUwMmo-01728-00389824-00390039 bit more about what they're doing
dg2N-OUwMmo-01729-00390040-00390206 to perhaps retain
dg2N-OUwMmo-01730-00390207-00390447 some of these habitats because actually
dg2N-OUwMmo-01731-00390448-00390734 retaining is easier than then finding
dg2N-OUwMmo-01732-00390735-00390910 even more than 10 which is what they
dg2N-OUwMmo-01733-00390911-00391063 have to do if they remove them at the
dg2N-OUwMmo-01734-00391064-00391158 start
dg2N-OUwMmo-01735-00391159-00391351 so i think that's the plan from the
dg2N-OUwMmo-01736-00391352-00391654 government is um whilst there's nothing
dg2N-OUwMmo-01737-00391655-00391919 about netting in the environment act or
dg2N-OUwMmo-01738-00391920-00392063 in the national planning policy
dg2N-OUwMmo-01739-00392064-00392247 framework actually
dg2N-OUwMmo-01740-00392248-00392463 there is this biodiversity net gain
dg2N-OUwMmo-01741-00392464-00392647 which is going to be beneficial all
dg2N-OUwMmo-01742-00392648-00392791 round so
dg2N-OUwMmo-01743-00392792-00392951 in conclusion
dg2N-OUwMmo-01744-00392952-00393199 while birds are protected by law and
dg2N-OUwMmo-01745-00393200-00393415 disturbing them and their habitats
dg2N-OUwMmo-01746-00393416-00393599 is a criminal offence however there is
dg2N-OUwMmo-01747-00393600-00393958 no specific um regulation of the use of
dg2N-OUwMmo-01748-00393959-00394167 netting and it doesn't require planning
dg2N-OUwMmo-01749-00394168-00394478 permission to do it either
dg2N-OUwMmo-01750-00394479-00394599 so
dg2N-OUwMmo-01751-00394600-00394847 to try and be positive around
dg2N-OUwMmo-01752-00394848-00394999 this because i know you've got to report
dg2N-OUwMmo-01753-00395000-00395230 it onwards um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01754-00395231-00395463 i did put in the appendix um just
dg2N-OUwMmo-01755-00395464-00395663 something that shropshire council did
dg2N-OUwMmo-01756-00395664-00395902 which was um like an information page on
dg2N-OUwMmo-01757-00395903-00396095 their website which i thought was quite
dg2N-OUwMmo-01758-00396096-00396310 good setting out quite clearly what you
dg2N-OUwMmo-01759-00396311-00396519 can and can't do and go to the wildlife
dg2N-OUwMmo-01760-00396520-00396702 crime officer because actually that's a
dg2N-OUwMmo-01761-00396703-00396902 good person to go and speak to
dg2N-OUwMmo-01762-00396903-00397158 um and also shropshire um put
dg2N-OUwMmo-01763-00397159-00397334 informatives on the bottom of their
dg2N-OUwMmo-01764-00397335-00397639 planning decisions so an informative is
dg2N-OUwMmo-01765-00397640-00397847 is different to a condition
dg2N-OUwMmo-01766-00397848-00398030 a condition can be enforceable but an
dg2N-OUwMmo-01767-00398031-00398310 informative is more of an advisory so
dg2N-OUwMmo-01768-00398311-00398510 it's just making the developer aware
dg2N-OUwMmo-01769-00398511-00398743 that they have a requirement under the
dg2N-OUwMmo-01770-00398744-00398910 wildlife and countryside act to protect
dg2N-OUwMmo-01771-00398911-00399082 wild birds
dg2N-OUwMmo-01772-00399083-00399358 again it's nothing to do with stopping
dg2N-OUwMmo-01773-00399359-00399471 netting
dg2N-OUwMmo-01774-00399472-00399695 because actually we can't we can't stop
dg2N-OUwMmo-01775-00399696-00399943 that practice but it is an advisory to
dg2N-OUwMmo-01776-00399944-00400078 make sure that they
dg2N-OUwMmo-01777-00400079-00400302 understand their um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01778-00400303-00400423 what they should be doing under that
dg2N-OUwMmo-01779-00400424-00400647 particular wildlife act
dg2N-OUwMmo-01780-00400648-00400791 so i've just i've just given a few
dg2N-OUwMmo-01781-00400792-00401191 suggestions um but i have to say that in
dg2N-OUwMmo-01782-00401192-00401406 researching around this to be able to
dg2N-OUwMmo-01783-00401407-00401647 write this paper i found very little
dg2N-OUwMmo-01784-00401648-00401830 information from local planning
dg2N-OUwMmo-01785-00401831-00402047 authorities or local authorities more
dg2N-OUwMmo-01786-00402048-00402415 generally on this issue um shropshire
dg2N-OUwMmo-01787-00402416-00402678 back in 2019 when it all sort of
dg2N-OUwMmo-01788-00402679-00402927 exploded i did something a bit proactive
dg2N-OUwMmo-01789-00402928-00403054 but i haven't been able to find a lot
dg2N-OUwMmo-01790-00403055-00403223 else that's that's very quickly and
dg2N-OUwMmo-01791-00403224-00403463 visibly obvious
dg2N-OUwMmo-01792-00403464-00403678 so i'm happy to take i'm happy to take
dg2N-OUwMmo-01793-00403679-00403806 questions
dg2N-OUwMmo-01794-00403807-00404134 thanks thanks anna and uh and thanks
dg2N-OUwMmo-01795-00404135-00404375 very much for that comprehensive report
dg2N-OUwMmo-01796-00404376-00404623 actually it's uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-01797-00404624-00404863 it seems a highly technical report and
dg2N-OUwMmo-01798-00404864-00404982 uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-01799-00404983-00405119 certainly it's took a
dg2N-OUwMmo-01800-00405120-00405351 a lot of reading and and getting my head
dg2N-OUwMmo-01801-00405352-00405527 around and i'm not sure it's it's fully
dg2N-OUwMmo-01802-00405528-00405782 there yet actually um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01803-00405783-00406023 but i'll just open up two questions and
dg2N-OUwMmo-01804-00406024-00406143 comments from
dg2N-OUwMmo-01805-00406144-00406367 other members of committee
dg2N-OUwMmo-01806-00406368-00406639 john
dg2N-OUwMmo-01807-00406640-00406910 sorry
dg2N-OUwMmo-01808-00406911-00407158 uh yes anna that was a smashing report
dg2N-OUwMmo-01809-00407159-00407463 thank you so much very comprehensive and
dg2N-OUwMmo-01810-00407464-00407895 very uh very thought-provoking um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01811-00407896-00408119 on the way here this evening i came
dg2N-OUwMmo-01812-00408120-00408367 along cotton lane
dg2N-OUwMmo-01813-00408368-00408599 which perhaps is the most obvious
dg2N-OUwMmo-01814-00408600-00408791 example of where this has all gone very
dg2N-OUwMmo-01815-00408792-00408999 wrong
dg2N-OUwMmo-01816-00409000-00409127 probably
dg2N-OUwMmo-01817-00409128-00409215 i mean
dg2N-OUwMmo-01818-00409216-00409375 i don't know if everyone knows coat and
dg2N-OUwMmo-01819-00409376-00409495 lane but
dg2N-OUwMmo-01820-00409496-00409822 it was uh i built a new housing estate
dg2N-OUwMmo-01821-00409823-00409966 on the uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-01822-00409967-00410159 on the edge of the town
dg2N-OUwMmo-01823-00410160-00410495 and in doing so they've ripped up
dg2N-OUwMmo-01824-00410496-00410687 probably two thirds
dg2N-OUwMmo-01825-00410688-00410878 of the hedgerow
dg2N-OUwMmo-01826-00410879-00411118 long long established
dg2N-OUwMmo-01827-00411119-00411222 hedgerow
dg2N-OUwMmo-01828-00411223-00411399 goes back longer than me show you how
dg2N-OUwMmo-01829-00411400-00411759 old it is um i can remember as a boy
dg2N-OUwMmo-01830-00411760-00411951 but there must be thousands and
dg2N-OUwMmo-01831-00411952-00412222 thousands of birds that have been
dg2N-OUwMmo-01832-00412223-00412463 deprived of home not to mention all the
dg2N-OUwMmo-01833-00412464-00412630 the other animals hedgehogs and all
dg2N-OUwMmo-01834-00412631-00412782 sorts of things
dg2N-OUwMmo-01835-00412783-00413103 it's had a major i think catastrophic
dg2N-OUwMmo-01836-00413104-00413359 effect on nature in that particular area
dg2N-OUwMmo-01837-00413360-00413551 and of course all these hedgerows were
dg2N-OUwMmo-01838-00413552-00413647 netted
dg2N-OUwMmo-01839-00413647-00413926 for about a year and year and a half
dg2N-OUwMmo-01840-00413927-00414151 prior to the um the ripping up of the
dg2N-OUwMmo-01841-00414152-00414543 hedgerows why the builders had to
dg2N-OUwMmo-01842-00414543-00414774 rip up the hedgerows and not build their
dg2N-OUwMmo-01843-00414775-00414863 uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-01844-00414864-00415063 their their houses
dg2N-OUwMmo-01845-00415064-00415343 um in in conjunction with them is beyond
dg2N-OUwMmo-01846-00415343-00415414 me
dg2N-OUwMmo-01847-00415415-00415566 absolutely beyond me
dg2N-OUwMmo-01848-00415567-00415759 but my point is and my question is
dg2N-OUwMmo-01849-00415760-00416047 really is there anything we can do to
dg2N-OUwMmo-01850-00416047-00416351 prevent developers from tearing up
dg2N-OUwMmo-01851-00416352-00416566 these invaluable
dg2N-OUwMmo-01852-00416567-00416655 uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-01853-00416656-00417014 pieces of our natural environment um how
dg2N-OUwMmo-01854-00417015-00417174 can we stop it
dg2N-OUwMmo-01855-00417175-00417326 thanks
dg2N-OUwMmo-01856-00417327-00417599 if i can just i i guess that's slightly
dg2N-OUwMmo-01857-00417600-00417966 outside the scope of the item but um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01858-00417967-00418199 but anna if you could have a brief uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-01859-00418200-00418374 answer to that thank you
dg2N-OUwMmo-01860-00418375-00418678 i'm not sure about brief but um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01861-00418679-00418910 it's not unusual for some hedgerow loss
dg2N-OUwMmo-01862-00418912-00419174 or tree loss as part of an application
dg2N-OUwMmo-01863-00419175-00419431 um so for planning consent let's say
dg2N-OUwMmo-01864-00419432-00419607 coating lane for example
dg2N-OUwMmo-01865-00419608-00419863 um generally speaking when an
dg2N-OUwMmo-01866-00419864-00420110 application like that is submitted to
dg2N-OUwMmo-01867-00420112-00420314 the local planning authority for
dg2N-OUwMmo-01868-00420315-00420495 determination
dg2N-OUwMmo-01869-00420496-00420759 it would go with it um ecological
dg2N-OUwMmo-01870-00420760-00420966 surveys et cetera et cetera or
dg2N-OUwMmo-01871-00420967-00421303 arboricultural surveys by someone who's
dg2N-OUwMmo-01872-00421304-00421495 looked at all the trees and they've
dg2N-OUwMmo-01873-00421496-00421783 looked at the value of those particular
dg2N-OUwMmo-01874-00421784-00422055 habitats um and they've come to a
dg2N-OUwMmo-01875-00422056-00422279 conclusion as to whether they they could
dg2N-OUwMmo-01876-00422280-00422518 be lost or not
dg2N-OUwMmo-01877-00422519-00422735 sometimes hedgerows are lost
dg2N-OUwMmo-01878-00422735-00423039 not because they're in the way they
dg2N-OUwMmo-01879-00423039-00423375 might actually prevent safe visibility
dg2N-OUwMmo-01880-00423376-00423527 for
dg2N-OUwMmo-01881-00423528-00423751 junctions for example for traffic to
dg2N-OUwMmo-01882-00423752-00423999 turn in and out so sometimes you lose
dg2N-OUwMmo-01883-00424000-00424214 hedgerows for that reasons that reason
dg2N-OUwMmo-01884-00424215-00424591 sometimes trees um are removed to make a
dg2N-OUwMmo-01885-00424592-00424791 better layout and it always is a bit of
dg2N-OUwMmo-01886-00424792-00425022 a compromise as you know in planning
dg2N-OUwMmo-01887-00425023-00425287 you're weighing up different issues to
dg2N-OUwMmo-01888-00425288-00425518 arrive at something that's that's
dg2N-OUwMmo-01889-00425519-00425710 reasonable
dg2N-OUwMmo-01890-00425712-00425951 we quite often don't allow for hedgerows
dg2N-OUwMmo-01891-00425952-00426127 to be removed without there being
dg2N-OUwMmo-01892-00426128-00426375 replacement planting or something like
dg2N-OUwMmo-01893-00426376-00426607 that or trees of a similar or better
dg2N-OUwMmo-01894-00426608-00426887 quality to be put back in so it's never
dg2N-OUwMmo-01895-00426888-00427070 just removal there's always a
dg2N-OUwMmo-01896-00427071-00427343 conversation to be held around
dg2N-OUwMmo-01897-00427343-00427583 doing something slightly different
dg2N-OUwMmo-01898-00427584-00427807 the biodiversity net gain means that
dg2N-OUwMmo-01899-00427808-00427999 they have to do 10
dg2N-OUwMmo-01900-00428000-00428135 on top of
dg2N-OUwMmo-01901-00428135-00428422 what's there at the start
dg2N-OUwMmo-01902-00428423-00428583 and i think that will actually make
dg2N-OUwMmo-01903-00428584-00428766 developers think twice about the
dg2N-OUwMmo-01904-00428767-00428927 resource that they have at the start of
dg2N-OUwMmo-01905-00428928-00429110 the process and whether they genuinely
dg2N-OUwMmo-01906-00429112-00429310 need to remove things to make for a
dg2N-OUwMmo-01907-00429312-00429503 better layout etc i think it's going to
dg2N-OUwMmo-01908-00429504-00429751 be harder for them to achieve it in
dg2N-OUwMmo-01909-00429752-00430063 future
dg2N-OUwMmo-01910-00430064-00430399 thanks hannah and john hope that's uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-01911-00430400-00430647 thanks anna that's i i expected that's
dg2N-OUwMmo-01912-00430647-00430918 really what i expected um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01913-00430919-00431214 the netting of um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01914-00431215-00431283 of
dg2N-OUwMmo-01915-00431284-00431631 hedgerows to me is abhorrent i'm sure to
dg2N-OUwMmo-01916-00431632-00431814 many people in this town
dg2N-OUwMmo-01917-00431815-00432031 um depriving
dg2N-OUwMmo-01918-00432032-00432327 uh wild animals of their natural habitat
dg2N-OUwMmo-01919-00432328-00432639 it's just not not anything
dg2N-OUwMmo-01920-00432639-00432839 that we the government or any of us want
dg2N-OUwMmo-01921-00432839-00433031 to do in trying to improve our green
dg2N-OUwMmo-01922-00433032-00433231 environment um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01923-00433232-00433455 and our natural environment and it goes
dg2N-OUwMmo-01924-00433456-00433814 against every every uh acid of that of
dg2N-OUwMmo-01925-00433815-00433910 that
dg2N-OUwMmo-01926-00433912-00434127 so i think um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01927-00434128-00434375 as a council we need to try in our own
dg2N-OUwMmo-01928-00434376-00434566 way as um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01929-00434567-00434863 shrewsbury has done to discourage
dg2N-OUwMmo-01930-00434864-00435087 discourage this activity
dg2N-OUwMmo-01931-00435088-00435327 and if ever we see it
dg2N-OUwMmo-01932-00435328-00435559 coming across a horizon do whatever we
dg2N-OUwMmo-01933-00435560-00435735 can to prevent it
dg2N-OUwMmo-01934-00435735-00436143 because um there is nothing i can see
dg2N-OUwMmo-01935-00436143-00436543 positive about netting hedgerows
dg2N-OUwMmo-01936-00436543-00436718 it may stop the birds from going in but
dg2N-OUwMmo-01937-00436719-00436870 it doesn't suck all the other animals
dg2N-OUwMmo-01938-00436871-00436966 and
dg2N-OUwMmo-01939-00436967-00437151 creatures that
dg2N-OUwMmo-01940-00437152-00437351 that find a home there all we do is
dg2N-OUwMmo-01941-00437352-00437463 evict them
dg2N-OUwMmo-01942-00437464-00437599 and
dg2N-OUwMmo-01943-00437600-00437799 as an authority i think we should be
dg2N-OUwMmo-01944-00437800-00437959 looking at
dg2N-OUwMmo-01945-00437960-00438255 stopping this activity whenever ever we
dg2N-OUwMmo-01946-00438256-00438359 can
dg2N-OUwMmo-01947-00438360-00438566 thank you
dg2N-OUwMmo-01948-00438567-00438887 thanks john uh sheree
dg2N-OUwMmo-01949-00438888-00439039 yes thank you um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01950-00439039-00439166 it's really interesting isn't it this
dg2N-OUwMmo-01951-00439167-00439391 evening we've been talking about
dg2N-OUwMmo-01952-00439392-00439527 charging
dg2N-OUwMmo-01953-00439528-00439727 being green in that way having charging
dg2N-OUwMmo-01954-00439728-00440014 points for for electric cars um and this
dg2N-OUwMmo-01955-00440015-00440222 is just another example of how we really
dg2N-OUwMmo-01956-00440223-00440422 need to be green and we need to be
dg2N-OUwMmo-01957-00440423-00440783 looking after our environment um so i i
dg2N-OUwMmo-01958-00440784-00440975 concur with a lot of what uh councillor
dg2N-OUwMmo-01959-00440976-00441135 harper said
dg2N-OUwMmo-01960-00441135-00441479 um i was interested reading this uh bit
dg2N-OUwMmo-01961-00441480-00441759 from shropshire council saying normally
dg2N-OUwMmo-01962-00441760-00441991 we don't put a condition on planning
dg2N-OUwMmo-01963-00441992-00442214 decisions regarding nesting birds as
dg2N-OUwMmo-01964-00442215-00442655 they have legal protection
dg2N-OUwMmo-01965-00442656-00442863 correct me if i'm wrong
dg2N-OUwMmo-01966-00442864-00443175 i believe we could put conditions
dg2N-OUwMmo-01967-00443176-00443470 on put planning conditions on for
dg2N-OUwMmo-01968-00443471-00443591 example
dg2N-OUwMmo-01969-00443592-00443839 um we could put a condition on saying
dg2N-OUwMmo-01970-00443839-00444127 that netting was only permitted between
dg2N-OUwMmo-01971-00444128-00444318 that month and that month rather than
dg2N-OUwMmo-01972-00444319-00444518 the netting being left in place for
dg2N-OUwMmo-01973-00444519-00444687 years and years
dg2N-OUwMmo-01974-00444688-00444879 is that correct is my understanding
dg2N-OUwMmo-01975-00444880-00445127 correct that we could impose conditions
dg2N-OUwMmo-01976-00445128-00445351 regarding netting
dg2N-OUwMmo-01977-00445352-00445559 i i can honestly say i've i've never
dg2N-OUwMmo-01978-00445560-00445718 seen one
dg2N-OUwMmo-01979-00445719-00445943 and that that's that's my um that's my
dg2N-OUwMmo-01980-00445943-00446183 honest answer that doesn't mean perhaps
dg2N-OUwMmo-01981-00446184-00446327 we couldn't
dg2N-OUwMmo-01982-00446328-00446455 well i think we'd have to take some
dg2N-OUwMmo-01983-00446456-00446663 legal advice over whether given that
dg2N-OUwMmo-01984-00446664-00446847 they can do it without it being
dg2N-OUwMmo-01985-00446847-00447063 regulated in any way
dg2N-OUwMmo-01986-00447064-00447287 whether we can actually regulate it i'm
dg2N-OUwMmo-01987-00447288-00447503 i would be unclear on that
dg2N-OUwMmo-01988-00447504-00447614 so
dg2N-OUwMmo-01989-00447615-00447855 i could take some advice but i have i've
dg2N-OUwMmo-01990-00447856-00448359 never seen it i'll be honest
dg2N-OUwMmo-01991-00448360-00448583 thank you for that as you know my
dg2N-OUwMmo-01992-00448584-00448855 profession is the legal profession and
dg2N-OUwMmo-01993-00448856-00449055 we like things that are novel
dg2N-OUwMmo-01994-00449056-00449383 you know um
dg2N-OUwMmo-01995-00449384-00449655 every sort of rule of law that we have
dg2N-OUwMmo-01996-00449656-00449918 in the country comes about because
dg2N-OUwMmo-01997-00449919-00450110 somebody made a novel decision and we've
dg2N-OUwMmo-01998-00450112-00450239 never done it before but we're going to
dg2N-OUwMmo-01999-00450239-00450487 do it now so i think it would be
dg2N-OUwMmo-02000-00450488-00450822 appreciated if we could look into that
dg2N-OUwMmo-02001-00450823-00451047 and also um
dg2N-OUwMmo-02002-00451047-00451327 i mean it's it's not it's not just birds
dg2N-OUwMmo-02003-00451328-00451543 it's things like as as john mentioned
dg2N-OUwMmo-02004-00451543-00451687 hedgehogs there's a big movement at the
dg2N-OUwMmo-02005-00451688-00452022 moment to have hedgehog highways um and
dg2N-OUwMmo-02006-00452023-00452175 we should be thinking about that when
dg2N-OUwMmo-02007-00452176-00452375 we're considering planning
dg2N-OUwMmo-02008-00452376-00452631 i wonder also whether there's and i'm
dg2N-OUwMmo-02009-00452632-00452879 sure it is covered in training for
dg2N-OUwMmo-02010-00452880-00452991 counselors who are on the planning
dg2N-OUwMmo-02011-00452992-00453303 committee but whether we could perhaps
dg2N-OUwMmo-02012-00453304-00453583 think about a bit more emphasis on
dg2N-OUwMmo-02013-00453584-00453779 um
dg2N-OUwMmo-02014-00453780-00453999 biodiversity and and the green
dg2N-OUwMmo-02015-00454000-00454239 environment when we're training people
dg2N-OUwMmo-02016-00454239-00454439 about making those planning decisions
dg2N-OUwMmo-02017-00454439-00454566 because i think that that's really
dg2N-OUwMmo-02018-00454567-00454783 important um
dg2N-OUwMmo-02019-00454784-00454903 it's one of those things you don't know
dg2N-OUwMmo-02020-00454904-00455063 what you don't know
dg2N-OUwMmo-02021-00455064-00455279 and it might not occur to you if you
dg2N-OUwMmo-02022-00455280-00455399 haven't had
dg2N-OUwMmo-02023-00455400-00455583 that training
dg2N-OUwMmo-02024-00455584-00455807 that this is an issue that really needs
dg2N-OUwMmo-02025-00455808-00456039 to be considered very carefully on each
dg2N-OUwMmo-02026-00456039-00456231 application
dg2N-OUwMmo-02027-00456232-00456310 so
dg2N-OUwMmo-02028-00456312-00456503 yeah thank you
dg2N-OUwMmo-02029-00456504-00456735 thanks sure um
dg2N-OUwMmo-02030-00456735-00456943 yeah i was i was going to suggest that
dg2N-OUwMmo-02031-00456943-00457127 uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-02032-00457128-00457335 obviously we
dg2N-OUwMmo-02033-00457335-00457510 the committee has to report back or i
dg2N-OUwMmo-02034-00457512-00457647 have to report back on behalf of
dg2N-OUwMmo-02035-00457647-00457847 committee to to um
dg2N-OUwMmo-02036-00457847-00458047 to council later on in the year on this
dg2N-OUwMmo-02037-00458047-00458191 item and uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-02038-00458192-00458439 i think anna's report has really given
dg2N-OUwMmo-02039-00458439-00458639 us a basis for
dg2N-OUwMmo-02040-00458639-00458895 for some considerations but i think i
dg2N-OUwMmo-02041-00458896-00459055 think as you've you've said sheree i
dg2N-OUwMmo-02042-00459056-00459191 think there's there's a number of
dg2N-OUwMmo-02043-00459192-00459327 questions there that you've asked that i
dg2N-OUwMmo-02044-00459328-00459470 think would be
dg2N-OUwMmo-02045-00459471-00459759 would really we we need to understand
dg2N-OUwMmo-02046-00459760-00459943 the implications or the answers before
dg2N-OUwMmo-02047-00459943-00460110 we can
dg2N-OUwMmo-02048-00460112-00460335 continue to to report back in so i think
dg2N-OUwMmo-02049-00460335-00460463 that would be really helpful i don't
dg2N-OUwMmo-02050-00460464-00460663 know if you could uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-02051-00460664-00460814 do a little bit of digging there thank
dg2N-OUwMmo-02052-00460815-00460999 you
dg2N-OUwMmo-02053-00461000-00461231 just to clarify i've got
dg2N-OUwMmo-02054-00461232-00461422 um whether you can condition the timing
dg2N-OUwMmo-02055-00461423-00461583 of netting
dg2N-OUwMmo-02056-00461584-00461751 specifically
dg2N-OUwMmo-02057-00461752-00461918 yeah i think that's a really interesting
dg2N-OUwMmo-02058-00461919-00462183 question because
dg2N-OUwMmo-02059-00462184-00462447 of these sort of say large housing sites
dg2N-OUwMmo-02060-00462447-00462718 would have an ecology report sort of
dg2N-OUwMmo-02061-00462719-00462991 attached to it which would normally set
dg2N-OUwMmo-02062-00462992-00463087 out
dg2N-OUwMmo-02063-00463088-00463255 mitigation so
dg2N-OUwMmo-02064-00463256-00463422 if you were
dg2N-OUwMmo-02065-00463423-00463631 building a house close to a tree you'd
dg2N-OUwMmo-02066-00463632-00463814 have root protection zones and things
dg2N-OUwMmo-02067-00463815-00464095 like that so setting out the mitigation
dg2N-OUwMmo-02068-00464096-00464175 um
dg2N-OUwMmo-02069-00464176-00464535 to avoid damage to habitats
dg2N-OUwMmo-02070-00464535-00464895 um
dg2N-OUwMmo-02071-00464896-00465070 it's different it's different in this
dg2N-OUwMmo-02072-00465071-00465239 case because these are hedgerows that
dg2N-OUwMmo-02073-00465239-00465431 are coming out
dg2N-OUwMmo-02074-00465432-00465831 that's why they're netted
dg2N-OUwMmo-02075-00465832-00466143 so yeah
dg2N-OUwMmo-02076-00466143-00466414 just just to come back on that i
dg2N-OUwMmo-02077-00466415-00466591 appreciate that there are hedgerows that
dg2N-OUwMmo-02078-00466592-00466799 are coming out we really ought to be
dg2N-OUwMmo-02079-00466800-00467039 asking the question why
dg2N-OUwMmo-02080-00467039-00467391 um because i'd probably be in councillor
dg2N-OUwMmo-02081-00467392-00467599 harper's camp of we shouldn't be
dg2N-OUwMmo-02082-00467600-00467847 removing hedgerows at all and i
dg2N-OUwMmo-02083-00467847-00468022 appreciate that there might be reasons
dg2N-OUwMmo-02084-00468023-00468247 that developers want to remove them and
dg2N-OUwMmo-02085-00468247-00468447 in very limited circumstances there
dg2N-OUwMmo-02086-00468447-00468670 might be good reasons such as visibility
dg2N-OUwMmo-02087-00468671-00468895 display at junctions and so on but quite
dg2N-OUwMmo-02088-00468896-00468991 often
dg2N-OUwMmo-02089-00468992-00469175 if we're honest it's because it doesn't
dg2N-OUwMmo-02090-00469176-00469366 really fit their plans
dg2N-OUwMmo-02091-00469367-00469599 um and they've got some some other idea
dg2N-OUwMmo-02092-00469600-00469831 and whilst i appreciate that um a
dg2N-OUwMmo-02093-00469832-00470007 hedgerow might be replaced by other
dg2N-OUwMmo-02094-00470008-00470318 planting etc
dg2N-OUwMmo-02095-00470319-00470510 if it ain't broke don't fix it why rip
dg2N-OUwMmo-02096-00470512-00470631 out something that's been there for
dg2N-OUwMmo-02097-00470632-00470870 years and is perfectly ecologically
dg2N-OUwMmo-02098-00470871-00470966 sound
dg2N-OUwMmo-02099-00470967-00471087 for
dg2N-OUwMmo-02100-00471088-00471518 something else that might not be as good
dg2N-OUwMmo-02101-00471519-00471783 thanks jury i think
dg2N-OUwMmo-02102-00471784-00472047 again i think it is slightly outside the
dg2N-OUwMmo-02103-00472047-00472222 scope of this
dg2N-OUwMmo-02104-00472223-00472591 this item it's it's virgin it's verging
dg2N-OUwMmo-02105-00472592-00472831 on on i'm just drifting away from from
dg2N-OUwMmo-02106-00472832-00473087 there but it's a valid point
dg2N-OUwMmo-02107-00473088-00473270 it's a valid point
dg2N-OUwMmo-02108-00473271-00473470 um
dg2N-OUwMmo-02109-00473471-00473847 if i may chair 4 600 people sign the
dg2N-OUwMmo-02110-00473847-00474070 petition is that correct
dg2N-OUwMmo-02111-00474071-00474343 yeah and it was about netting hedges so
dg2N-OUwMmo-02112-00474343-00474495 i'm not really sure in what way we're
dg2N-OUwMmo-02113-00474496-00474647 drifting away from the point we're
dg2N-OUwMmo-02114-00474647-00474863 talking about netting hedges
dg2N-OUwMmo-02115-00474864-00475127 and we and we've got 4 600 unhappy
dg2N-OUwMmo-02116-00475128-00475318 residents that we we need to do
dg2N-OUwMmo-02117-00475319-00475439 something about
dg2N-OUwMmo-02118-00475439-00475622 because i think the point was about
dg2N-OUwMmo-02119-00475623-00475879 whether we're removing the hedges based
dg2N-OUwMmo-02120-00475880-00476047 on whether we need to be removing the
dg2N-OUwMmo-02121-00476047-00476375 hedges for that um
dg2N-OUwMmo-02122-00476376-00476607 that land that's been built on so that's
dg2N-OUwMmo-02123-00476608-00476870 different to netting hedges
dg2N-OUwMmo-02124-00476871-00477118 that was the point i was trying to
dg2N-OUwMmo-02125-00477119-00477431 trying to make but um
dg2N-OUwMmo-02126-00477432-00477614 i think i think anna if you if you can
dg2N-OUwMmo-02127-00477615-00477883 find out the
dg2N-OUwMmo-02128-00477884-00478143 implications or
dg2N-OUwMmo-02129-00478143-00478366 any any if there has
dg2N-OUwMmo-02130-00478367-00478607 it's ever been done before or whether it
dg2N-OUwMmo-02131-00478608-00478839 can be done i think that would be that
dg2N-OUwMmo-02132-00478839-00479151 would be helpful thank you
dg2N-OUwMmo-02133-00479152-00479622 paul
dg2N-OUwMmo-02134-00479623-00479910 i thought you were trying to get there
dg2N-OUwMmo-02135-00479912-00480366 any other questions or comments
dg2N-OUwMmo-02136-00480367-00480470 no
dg2N-OUwMmo-02137-00480471-00480814 okay um well i say thanks anna for the
dg2N-OUwMmo-02138-00480815-00480918 report
dg2N-OUwMmo-02139-00480919-00481079 i think we we need to find that
dg2N-OUwMmo-02140-00481080-00481295 information out and i think
dg2N-OUwMmo-02141-00481296-00481559 certainly for me i i need to take in in
dg2N-OUwMmo-02142-00481560-00481718 the report
dg2N-OUwMmo-02143-00481719-00481910 and perhaps we'll feedback any other
dg2N-OUwMmo-02144-00481912-00482110 questions that would hope committee can
dg2N-OUwMmo-02145-00482112-00482359 as well before perhaps our next meeting
dg2N-OUwMmo-02146-00482360-00482647 and and then i'll uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-02147-00482647-00482887 i'm not i'm not sure i need need to get
dg2N-OUwMmo-02148-00482888-00483199 you to present anything else but uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-02149-00483200-00483543 might send you some questions by email
dg2N-OUwMmo-02150-00483543-00483727 if you want me to just do
dg2N-OUwMmo-02151-00483728-00483966 you know a paragraph that i can give to
dg2N-OUwMmo-02152-00483967-00484207 you for your next committee or whenever
dg2N-OUwMmo-02153-00484208-00484470 um for you to read out on what i've
dg2N-OUwMmo-02154-00484471-00484687 found or not um
dg2N-OUwMmo-02155-00484688-00484910 then yeah happy happy to do it
dg2N-OUwMmo-02156-00484912-00485079 that'd be great or if
dg2N-OUwMmo-02157-00485080-00485303 you've just emailed my throne i can i
dg2N-OUwMmo-02158-00485304-00485622 can let committee know thank you
dg2N-OUwMmo-02159-00485623-00485783 okay um
dg2N-OUwMmo-02160-00485784-00485943 thanks very much and you're you're
dg2N-OUwMmo-02161-00485943-00486191 you're welcome to uh to leave now thanks
dg2N-OUwMmo-02162-00486192-00486599 steve thanks anna
dg2N-OUwMmo-02163-00486600-00487110 okay so item 10 is the forward plan um
dg2N-OUwMmo-02164-00487112-00487366 hope everybody's a chance to have a look
dg2N-OUwMmo-02165-00487367-00487487 i'm not
dg2N-OUwMmo-02166-00487488-00487710 sure there's anything else uh on there
dg2N-OUwMmo-02167-00487712-00487791 that
dg2N-OUwMmo-02168-00487792-00488055 we've got the local plan and that's on
dg2N-OUwMmo-02169-00488056-00488207 the forward plan that we've we're
dg2N-OUwMmo-02170-00488208-00488479 obviously going to uh look at on the
dg2N-OUwMmo-02171-00488480-00488847 23rd of august
dg2N-OUwMmo-02172-00488847-00489110 and there's uh there's also statement of
dg2N-OUwMmo-02173-00489112-00489279 community involvement and local
dg2N-OUwMmo-02174-00489280-00489551 developments going on i'm not sure
dg2N-OUwMmo-02175-00489552-00489710 whether that is something that it is
dg2N-OUwMmo-02176-00489712-00489879 probably something that we
dg2N-OUwMmo-02177-00489880-00490055 we can perhaps look at at that same
dg2N-OUwMmo-02178-00490056-00490350 meeting so potentially um
dg2N-OUwMmo-02179-00490351-00490518 [Music]
dg2N-OUwMmo-02180-00490519-00490727 i don't know if anybody's seen anything
dg2N-OUwMmo-02181-00490728-00490903 else on there that we need to look but i
dg2N-OUwMmo-02182-00490904-00491166 think that's that is pretty much it for
dg2N-OUwMmo-02183-00491167-00491455 that's relevant to our committee
dg2N-OUwMmo-02184-00491456-00491735 um item 11 is a working group
dg2N-OUwMmo-02185-00491735-00491918 updates so
dg2N-OUwMmo-02186-00491919-00492022 um
dg2N-OUwMmo-02187-00492023-00492295 when was the facilities for hgv drivers
dg2N-OUwMmo-02188-00492296-00492559 i think ben was looking at with
dg2N-OUwMmo-02189-00492560-00492887 with sarah yeah um
dg2N-OUwMmo-02190-00492888-00493062 i've not heard anything from ben i don't
dg2N-OUwMmo-02191-00493063-00493207 know if anything's been done on that at
dg2N-OUwMmo-02192-00493208-00493455 all yet but uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-02193-00493456-00493591 um
dg2N-OUwMmo-02194-00493592-00493751 and then the
dg2N-OUwMmo-02195-00493752-00494031 other item that we were looking to have
dg2N-OUwMmo-02196-00494032-00494143 um
dg2N-OUwMmo-02197-00494143-00494351 some sort of session on was uh on on
dg2N-OUwMmo-02198-00494352-00494495 travelers
dg2N-OUwMmo-02199-00494496-00494759 now
dg2N-OUwMmo-02200-00494760-00494910 it's my understanding that that
dg2N-OUwMmo-02201-00494912-00495095 staffordshire
dg2N-OUwMmo-02202-00495096-00495303 county council are doing some sort of
dg2N-OUwMmo-02203-00495304-00495543 work on this and i'm
dg2N-OUwMmo-02204-00495543-00495751 currently sort of liaising with the with
dg2N-OUwMmo-02205-00495752-00495935 our portfolio older
dg2N-OUwMmo-02206-00495935-00496143 martin summers to try and get some
dg2N-OUwMmo-02207-00496143-00496310 contacts there because i don't
dg2N-OUwMmo-02208-00496312-00496535 i don't feel we should be duplicating
dg2N-OUwMmo-02209-00496535-00496759 some some of the work that they're doing
dg2N-OUwMmo-02210-00496760-00497039 it's something that we can
dg2N-OUwMmo-02211-00497039-00497375 we can use as a basis to perhaps do some
dg2N-OUwMmo-02212-00497376-00497655 some local scrutiny on um and i think
dg2N-OUwMmo-02213-00497656-00497814 that's perhaps the
dg2N-OUwMmo-02214-00497815-00498103 the right approach if uh if committee
dg2N-OUwMmo-02215-00498104-00498343 members
dg2N-OUwMmo-02216-00498343-00498543 think think that's a good approach so
dg2N-OUwMmo-02217-00498543-00498703 i'll wait and see
dg2N-OUwMmo-02218-00498704-00499095 see what comes of that sure
dg2N-OUwMmo-02219-00499096-00499343 yeah agree uh it's good not to duplicate
dg2N-OUwMmo-02220-00499343-00499510 effort but i think we have got a
dg2N-OUwMmo-02221-00499512-00499751 pressing problem so it's just something
dg2N-OUwMmo-02222-00499752-00499870 we need to
dg2N-OUwMmo-02223-00499871-00500214 try to get some answers on quite soon
dg2N-OUwMmo-02224-00500215-00500543 yeah i i agree i agree and it's um
dg2N-OUwMmo-02225-00500543-00500710 [Music]
dg2N-OUwMmo-02226-00500712-00500951 i just don't want to rush into doing
dg2N-OUwMmo-02227-00500952-00501087 something that
dg2N-OUwMmo-02228-00501088-00501214 perhaps
dg2N-OUwMmo-02229-00501215-00501479 has some wider implications and we say
dg2N-OUwMmo-02230-00501480-00501670 we end up duplicating so i think i'd
dg2N-OUwMmo-02231-00501671-00501918 rather wait to see what we get from from
dg2N-OUwMmo-02232-00501919-00502103 that staffordshire wide
dg2N-OUwMmo-02233-00502104-00502255 review
dg2N-OUwMmo-02234-00502256-00502366 and then
dg2N-OUwMmo-02235-00502367-00502510 we can look at what's perhaps more
dg2N-OUwMmo-02236-00502512-00502662 specific to
dg2N-OUwMmo-02237-00502663-00503022 to our borough an area
dg2N-OUwMmo-02238-00503023-00503279 um
dg2N-OUwMmo-02239-00503280-00503639 okay so item 12 is our work plan um
dg2N-OUwMmo-02240-00503639-00503766 [Music]
dg2N-OUwMmo-02241-00503767-00504062 happy to go through it but i think
dg2N-OUwMmo-02242-00504063-00504295 at the moment we're we we've we've not
dg2N-OUwMmo-02243-00504296-00504510 got that much opportunity for putting
dg2N-OUwMmo-02244-00504512-00504814 putting extra items in there um
dg2N-OUwMmo-02245-00504815-00504966 other than ones that will come up
dg2N-OUwMmo-02246-00504967-00505156 through the forward plan um
dg2N-OUwMmo-02247-00505157-00505287 [Music]
dg2N-OUwMmo-02248-00505288-00505495 we've obviously got our next meeting
dg2N-OUwMmo-02249-00505496-00505759 will now be in august and we've got
dg2N-OUwMmo-02250-00505760-00506127 got the items uh for that so um
dg2N-OUwMmo-02251-00506128-00506303 unless anybody's got any other comments
dg2N-OUwMmo-02252-00506304-00506470 on work plan
dg2N-OUwMmo-02253-00506471-00506703 andy
dg2N-OUwMmo-02254-00506704-00506910 thanks chair um
dg2N-OUwMmo-02255-00506912-00507087 the one thing that i was fairly
dg2N-OUwMmo-02256-00507088-00507247 passionate about adding to the work plan
dg2N-OUwMmo-02257-00507247-00507487 was the obviously the two buildings over
dg2N-OUwMmo-02258-00507488-00507799 there i think sorry just moved your mind
dg2N-OUwMmo-02259-00507800-00507983 um i think they fit
dg2N-OUwMmo-02260-00507984-00508287 well uh within this um this this sphere
dg2N-OUwMmo-02261-00508288-00508455 of influence
dg2N-OUwMmo-02262-00508456-00508591 would have been infrastructure safety
dg2N-OUwMmo-02263-00508592-00508775 and growth it's part of the future high
dg2N-OUwMmo-02264-00508776-00509031 street fund um it's safety because of
dg2N-OUwMmo-02265-00509032-00509207 the the the reported state of the
dg2N-OUwMmo-02266-00509208-00509351 buildings and
dg2N-OUwMmo-02267-00509352-00509495 its infrastructure
dg2N-OUwMmo-02268-00509496-00509622 um
dg2N-OUwMmo-02269-00509623-00509870 is it on sorry it is actually it is
dg2N-OUwMmo-02270-00509871-00510007 actually on the work plan we just
dg2N-OUwMmo-02271-00510008-00510231 haven't got a date on there yet right so
dg2N-OUwMmo-02272-00510232-00510303 okay
dg2N-OUwMmo-02273-00510304-00510679 and the other thing was um
dg2N-OUwMmo-02274-00510680-00510895 a work plan to do with transport um
dg2N-OUwMmo-02275-00510896-00511191 integration uh particularly with um the
dg2N-OUwMmo-02276-00511192-00511366 buses the boss issue that was that was
dg2N-OUwMmo-02277-00511367-00511599 reported with them idling but more
dg2N-OUwMmo-02278-00511600-00511847 looking at it from a larger scale to see
dg2N-OUwMmo-02279-00511847-00512127 how we can better um
dg2N-OUwMmo-02280-00512128-00512343 integrate the the bus service in
dg2N-OUwMmo-02281-00512343-00512655 tamworth um with the the railway service
dg2N-OUwMmo-02282-00512656-00512975 and and and and other services as well
dg2N-OUwMmo-02283-00512976-00513231 that's what i'd okay so so like a a
dg2N-OUwMmo-02284-00513232-00513375 local
dg2N-OUwMmo-02285-00513376-00513662 local travel pool yeah public transport
dg2N-OUwMmo-02286-00513663-00513855 absolutely you know not necessarily
dg2N-OUwMmo-02287-00513856-00514070 public transport but transport available
dg2N-OUwMmo-02288-00514071-00514239 to the public let's
dg2N-OUwMmo-02289-00514239-00514383 let's say
dg2N-OUwMmo-02290-00514384-00514487 richard
dg2N-OUwMmo-02291-00514488-00514687 chad i'm happy to lead a working group
dg2N-OUwMmo-02292-00514688-00514935 on that one to
dg2N-OUwMmo-02293-00514935-00515095 define the scope of
dg2N-OUwMmo-02294-00515096-00515255 a work programmer
dg2N-OUwMmo-02295-00515256-00515470 item uh council turner raised something
dg2N-OUwMmo-02296-00515471-00515791 with me uh earlier so i'm sure he'd very
dg2N-OUwMmo-02297-00515792-00515951 much like to be a part of it
dg2N-OUwMmo-02298-00515952-00516143 um we'll always invite member of the
dg2N-OUwMmo-02299-00516143-00516295 opposition if
dg2N-OUwMmo-02300-00516296-00516510 sheree or sarah wants to be on it
dg2N-OUwMmo-02301-00516512-00516647 and i think councilor cooper kind of
dg2N-OUwMmo-02302-00516647-00516870 indicated as he raised it so if he's
dg2N-OUwMmo-02303-00516871-00517070 okay with you chair us for
dg2N-OUwMmo-02304-00517071-00517327 get together and bash out some kind of
dg2N-OUwMmo-02305-00517328-00517431 uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-02306-00517432-00517662 the scope of the whole
dg2N-OUwMmo-02307-00517663-00517870 integrated transport policy that we can
dg2N-OUwMmo-02308-00517871-00517966 bring back to the committee at some
dg2N-OUwMmo-02309-00517967-00518135 point
dg2N-OUwMmo-02310-00518135-00518351 crack crack on is what i would say is
dg2N-OUwMmo-02311-00518352-00518575 what i would say and uh
dg2N-OUwMmo-02312-00518576-00518791 and and there's never an opposition on
dg2N-OUwMmo-02313-00518792-00519070 on on on ice cream today
dg2N-OUwMmo-02314-00519071-00519639 we're all on the same team
dg2N-OUwMmo-02315-00519639-00519807 okay thanks chair you can speak for
dg2N-OUwMmo-02316-00519808-00520062 yourself
dg2N-OUwMmo-02317-00520063-00520279 um just one thing i did want to mention
dg2N-OUwMmo-02318-00520280-00520447 i got the um
dg2N-OUwMmo-02319-00520447-00520614 the date of the
dg2N-OUwMmo-02320-00520615-00520831 the minutes of last meeting so it was
dg2N-OUwMmo-02321-00520832-00521031 the meeting for the fourteenth of june
dg2N-OUwMmo-02322-00521032-00521207 that we were yeah
dg2N-OUwMmo-02323-00521208-00521479 okay thank you
dg2N-OUwMmo-02324-00521480-00521687 if that's okay i just i just i've read
dg2N-OUwMmo-02325-00521688-00521927 them read them as the the wrong date so
dg2N-OUwMmo-02326-00521928-00522247 uh excuse me for that so okay yeah i
dg2N-OUwMmo-02327-00522247-00522622 think uh our work is done tonight it's
dg2N-OUwMmo-02328-00522623-00522935 uh i think 28 minutes past seven so i'm
dg2N-OUwMmo-02329-00522935-00523070 going to close a meeting thank you very
dg2N-OUwMmo-02330-00523071-00524007 much all
dg2N-OUwMmo-02331-00524008-00524215 you