-eKIdawzHOE-00000-00000446-00000740 hello I'm Sean Jones welcome to your -eKIdawzHOE-00001-00000741-00000969 week in tech -eKIdawzHOE-00002-00000969-00001236 list of all the london-based startup -eKIdawzHOE-00003-00001237-00001461 which transforms how companies connect -eKIdawzHOE-00004-00001462-00001682 with freelancers businesses and services -eKIdawzHOE-00005-00001684-00002007 secured at 1.5 million dollars led by -eKIdawzHOE-00006-00002009-00002277 America's Valar ventures alternative -eKIdawzHOE-00007-00002278-00002488 London foreign exchange business cam Cox -eKIdawzHOE-00008-00002489-00002740 has secured an 11 million dollar series -eKIdawzHOE-00009-00002741-00003010 be round LED by partek ventures this -eKIdawzHOE-00010-00003011-00003231 takes the total funding to 19 million -eKIdawzHOE-00011-00003232-00003427 dollars following its launch back in -eKIdawzHOE-00012-00003428-00003778 2011 and the UK's largest curated online -eKIdawzHOE-00013-00003779-00004002 marketplace not on the high street has -eKIdawzHOE-00014-00004003-00004213 secured a 6 million pound loan from -eKIdawzHOE-00015-00004214-00004447 Silicon Valley Bank the uk-based company -eKIdawzHOE-00016-00004448-00004744 brings together over 5,000 UK small -eKIdawzHOE-00017-00004745-00005013 creative businesses offering over -eKIdawzHOE-00018-00005014-00005278 170,000 products the first fully -eKIdawzHOE-00019-00005279-00005449 conservative Queen's Speech for two -eKIdawzHOE-00020-00005450-00005644 decades has outlined cyber security -eKIdawzHOE-00021-00005645-00005884 measures and put small business at the -eKIdawzHOE-00022-00005885-00006072 forefront they're going to be new laws -eKIdawzHOE-00023-00006073-00006322 to give police and spies greater powers -eKIdawzHOE-00024-00006323-00006573 to monitor internet and phone use and -eKIdawzHOE-00025-00006575-00006748 the enterprise bill will establish a -eKIdawzHOE-00026-00006748-00006996 small business service to deal with b2b -eKIdawzHOE-00027-00006997-00007224 disputes without having to involve the -eKIdawzHOE-00028-00007225-00007509 courts and the black cab another London -eKIdawzHOE-00029-00007511-00007720 icon has also caused a stir near -eKIdawzHOE-00030-00007720-00007927 westminster this week a fleet of black -eKIdawzHOE-00031-00007928-00008224 cabs protested against tfl in a marked -eKIdawzHOE-00032-00008225-00008431 movement to hit back at companies like -eKIdawzHOE-00033-00008432-00008778 uber snapchat boss even Spiegel has -eKIdawzHOE-00034-00008779-00008946 revealed his plan to take the company -eKIdawzHOE-00035-00008947-00009160 public rather than sell to a rival -eKIdawzHOE-00036-00009161-00009463 social network Facebook had tried to buy -eKIdawzHOE-00037-00009464-00009820 snapchat for 3 billion dollars in 2013 -eKIdawzHOE-00038-00009821-00010042 but Spiegel turned them down he claims -eKIdawzHOE-00039-00010043-00010201 almost a hundred million people a day -eKIdawzHOE-00040-00010202-00010428 use the video messaging app and its -eKIdawzHOE-00041-00010429-00010627 latest funding round valued it at a -eKIdawzHOE-00042-00010628-00011035 thigh high 15 billion dollars -eKIdawzHOE-00043-00011036-00011317 our download of the week is six tribes -eKIdawzHOE-00044-00011318-00011536 the app is a social network that lets -eKIdawzHOE-00045-00011537-00011734 you join tribes based on your lifestyle -eKIdawzHOE-00046-00011735-00011929 so it uses your Facebook likes and the -eKIdawzHOE-00047-00011930-00012103 music on your phone and the places -eKIdawzHOE-00048-00012104-00012325 you've been to to suggest social groups -eKIdawzHOE-00049-00012326-00012565 hot off the press to add in the bus tour -eKIdawzHOE-00050-00012566-00012802 this week you can download it now on iOS -eKIdawzHOE-00051-00012803-00013291 but not quite yet on Android and finally -eKIdawzHOE-00052-00013291-00013450 the weather remains an ever popular -eKIdawzHOE-00053-00013451-00013711 topic of British conversation but a new -eKIdawzHOE-00054-00013712-00013894 app promises to reflect more of the -eKIdawzHOE-00055-00013894-00014072 British attitude to the weather -eKIdawzHOE-00056-00014074-00014293 authentic weather will take the -eKIdawzHOE-00057-00014294-00014547 real-time weather update and translate -eKIdawzHOE-00058-00014549-00014809 it for you this has been your week in -eKIdawzHOE-00059-00014810-00014991 tech thank you for watching and for more -eKIdawzHOE-00060-00014993-00015175 will check out tech city news and do -eKIdawzHOE-00061-00015176-00015481 follow us on Twitter -gLOHWhQXgg-00000-00000003-00000467 if you're not successful rich or what -gLOHWhQXgg-00001-00000468-00000695 you want to be at in life it might be -gLOHWhQXgg-00002-00000696-00000872 because you sleep too much -gLOHWhQXgg-00003-00000873-00003761 I'm just saying come to my bed with a -gLOHWhQXgg-00004-00003761-00003983 damn warrant if I do it'd be nothing to -gLOHWhQXgg-00005-00003984-00004208 say cuz I ain't talking communi prison -gLOHWhQXgg-00006-00004209-00004379 what's up toach touching my man Bob -gLOHWhQXgg-00007-00004380-00004604 bucho ills if he twists 20 stairs -gLOHWhQXgg-00008-00004605-00004892 Bentley game Ruger Trevor my man rock we -gLOHWhQXgg-00009-00004893-00005102 saw him and scream D Jones till we own -gLOHWhQXgg-00010-00005103-00005309 that's really gain crucial business of -gLOHWhQXgg-00011-00005310-00005486 future and friendships mess with these -gLOHWhQXgg-00012-00005487-00005713 hit from show especially C blitzing Joe -gLOHWhQXgg-00013-00005714-00005897 wretched bleep text from tree -gLOHWhQXgg-00014-00005898-00006176 17 years ago ok skip school and rock -gLOHWhQXgg-00015-00006177-00006368 first pip moved and rock as when loose -gLOHWhQXgg-00016-00006369-00006503 who never thought I'd be this cool we -gLOHWhQXgg-00017-00006504-00006778 ops what happened I was traffic maneuver -gLOHWhQXgg-00018-00006779-00006985 in the streets with a jazz I'm a lad -gLOHWhQXgg-00019-00006986-00007175 with Beauty and the Beast that tracks -gLOHWhQXgg-00020-00007176-00007342 been while on rapid that's music really -gLOHWhQXgg-00021-00007343-00007528 can you grasp is probably can't acquaint -gLOHWhQXgg-00022-00007529-00007691 tuned into the streets raised through -gLOHWhQXgg-00023-00007692-00007928 bosses never gave names for charges and -gLOHWhQXgg-00024-00007929-00008120 that setting take aim their targets if -gLOHWhQXgg-00025-00008120-00008294 you have to take aim then toss it -gLOHWhQXgg-00026-00008295-00008483 who wanted dudes don't with my young and -gLOHWhQXgg-00027-00008484-00008645 cute as roses up coming through with -gLOHWhQXgg-00028-00008646-00008852 those ain't no Cuffy you control a man -gLOHWhQXgg-00029-00008853-00010477 Joe come on Joe -gLOHWhQXgg-00030-00010478-00011844 [Applause] -gLOHWhQXgg-00031-00011845-00012202 my god you saw a rapid you understand me -gLOHWhQXgg-00032-00012203-00012421 and quietly might not get an answer you -gLOHWhQXgg-00033-00012422-00012517 understand me -gLOHWhQXgg-00034-00012518-00012735 I'm hiring all potential trappers you -gLOHWhQXgg-00035-00012736-00012901 understand me rhymes tighter than all -gLOHWhQXgg-00036-00012902-00013180 these [__] read me I'm louder than -gLOHWhQXgg-00037-00013181-00013369 ball is hitting baskets you understand -gLOHWhQXgg-00038-00013369-00013540 me and the finest of laws can set us -gLOHWhQXgg-00039-00013541-00013738 backward you understand me time to walk -gLOHWhQXgg-00040-00013738-00014041 and Adorno goes my partner's going -gLOHWhQXgg-00041-00014041-00014227 punk-and-roller backwards he understand -gLOHWhQXgg-00042-00014228-00014383 me close the market throw ball guys rope -gLOHWhQXgg-00043-00014384-00014557 on back here you understand me -gLOHWhQXgg-00044-00014558-00014788 people my distance Mitch's yeah this den -gLOHWhQXgg-00045-00014788-00014938 me it gets deep enough trenches on on -gLOHWhQXgg-00046-00014938-00015160 benches you understand me keeping my -gLOHWhQXgg-00047-00015161-00016553 game -gLOHWhQXgg-00049-00040491-00040689 my partner's going punk-and-roller -gLOHWhQXgg-00050-00040690-00040887 backwards he understand me close the -gLOHWhQXgg-00051-00040888-00041085 market throw bogus rope on back here you -gLOHWhQXgg-00052-00041086-00041165 understand me -gLOHWhQXgg-00053-00041166-00041396 people my dissing stitches yeah this den -gLOHWhQXgg-00054-00041397-00041546 me it gets deep enough trenches on on -gLOHWhQXgg-00055-00041547-00041829 benches you understand me keeping my hey -gLOHWhQXgg-00056-00041830-00042069 listen -hSLck-uXTQ-00000-00000064-00000293 [Music] -hSLck-uXTQ-00001-00000294-00000454 foreign -hSLck-uXTQ-00002-00000455-00001813 [Music] -hSLck-uXTQ-00003-00001814-00002092 we got another one right here man this -hSLck-uXTQ-00004-00002093-00002242 one right here -hSLck-uXTQ-00005-00002243-00002423 best comes highly recommended there's -hSLck-uXTQ-00006-00002424-00002663 three parts this is the first part of -hSLck-uXTQ-00007-00002664-00002818 gang Okay so -hSLck-uXTQ-00008-00002819-00003034 I believe this is the first part that I -hSLck-uXTQ-00009-00003035-00003166 have -hSLck-uXTQ-00010-00003167-00003329 um so without further Ado let's get up -hSLck-uXTQ-00011-00003329-00003556 into this one I'm Buddha slim the Polish -hSLck-uXTQ-00012-00003557-00004090 Mexican stuff like that is -hSLck-uXTQ-00013-00004092-00004253 um leave me some comments down below and -hSLck-uXTQ-00014-00004254-00004541 let me know what y'all want me to react -hSLck-uXTQ-00015-00004542-00004720 to next Buddha gang -hSLck-uXTQ-00016-00004721-00005009 hit us up on Instagram Buddha underscore -hSLck-uXTQ-00017-00005010-00007331 Slim -hSLck-uXTQ-00018-00007331-00007645 ah -hSLck-uXTQ-00019-00007645-00009967 Corva Mark you're done -hSLck-uXTQ-00020-00009968-00011014 t-72 Crainer -hSLck-uXTQ-00021-00011015-00012371 so they know their position -hSLck-uXTQ-00022-00012372-00012641 bro they're on them already from a long -hSLck-uXTQ-00023-00012642-00012851 time ago and these rules didn't even -hSLck-uXTQ-00024-00012852-00013019 know they don't even know what's about -hSLck-uXTQ-00025-00013019-00013849 to hit them -hSLck-uXTQ-00026-00013850-00014333 bro oh what was that -hSLck-uXTQ-00027-00014334-00014579 I seen a light go that way like a flash -hSLck-uXTQ-00028-00014580-00014807 was that a -hSLck-uXTQ-00029-00014808-00015016 they're going right to their coordinates -hSLck-uXTQ-00030-00015018-00016055 as to grow -hSLck-uXTQ-00031-00016056-00016247 where's the other tank the other tank -hSLck-uXTQ-00032-00016247-00016415 has to be flanked he's coming from -hSLck-uXTQ-00033-00016416-00017044 somewhere else -hSLck-uXTQ-00034-00017045-00018541 oh it's right behind them -hSLck-uXTQ-00035-00018542-00019571 shut the fuck up -hSLck-uXTQ-00036-00019572-00019775 they got their coordinates oh they got -hSLck-uXTQ-00037-00019776-00020483 their coordinances -hSLck-uXTQ-00038-00020484-00021958 oh -hSLck-uXTQ-00039-00021959-00022967 fuck bro -hSLck-uXTQ-00040-00022968-00023819 thank you -hSLck-uXTQ-00041-00023820-00024167 oh yeah they know where they're at now -hSLck-uXTQ-00042-00024168-00024371 oh they're getting them oh they're -hSLck-uXTQ-00043-00024372-00024617 coming like this what a gang so they're -hSLck-uXTQ-00044-00024618-00024772 gonna come like this and they're gonna -hSLck-uXTQ-00045-00024773-00025594 poof -hSLck-uXTQ-00046-00025595-00027083 oh -hSLck-uXTQ-00047-00027083-00027396 oh they're attacking them -hSLck-uXTQ-00048-00027397-00028402 holy shit -hSLck-uXTQ-00049-00028404-00029035 oh -hSLck-uXTQ-00050-00029036-00029507 oh that's where that one landed -hSLck-uXTQ-00051-00029508-00029807 oh -hSLck-uXTQ-00052-00029808-00030037 shit -hSLck-uXTQ-00053-00030038-00030496 bro look at that -hSLck-uXTQ-00054-00030497-00031373 I did not even see that -hSLck-uXTQ-00055-00031374-00031524 look at that there it is -hSLck-uXTQ-00056-00031525-00032118 it just missed the ukrainas bro -hSLck-uXTQ-00057-00032119-00034285 oh my God I just missed them -hSLck-uXTQ-00058-00034286-00034439 whoa -hSLck-uXTQ-00059-00034440-00034818 whoa -hSLck-uXTQ-00060-00034819-00035512 holy shit -hSLck-uXTQ-00061-00035513-00035993 bro if that ain't front had the uh -hSLck-uXTQ-00062-00035994-00036227 um combat I don't know what is bro -hSLck-uXTQ-00063-00036228-00036527 they're oh my bro I got fucking I got -hSLck-uXTQ-00064-00036528-00036767 chills -hSLck-uXTQ-00065-00036768-00037093 oh my God bro -hSLck-uXTQ-00066-00037094-00037373 holy shit look at that bro you're done -hSLck-uXTQ-00067-00037374-00037727 that's it you're done you're history bro -hSLck-uXTQ-00068-00037728-00038189 no you didn't survive that one -hSLck-uXTQ-00069-00038190-00038518 okay okay I I see something moving right -hSLck-uXTQ-00070-00038519-00038735 there -hSLck-uXTQ-00071-00038736-00039274 I see something moving -hSLck-uXTQ-00072-00039275-00039485 oh he's going up he's going up he's -hSLck-uXTQ-00073-00039486-00039857 going up oh whoa -hSLck-uXTQ-00074-00039858-00040445 oh shit -hSLck-uXTQ-00075-00040446-00041068 shit oh shit -hSLck-uXTQ-00076-00041069-00041674 and are you gonna do it again -hSLck-uXTQ-00077-00041675-00043312 oh my God bro -hSLck-uXTQ-00078-00043313-00043902 much -hSLck-uXTQ-00079-00043903-00045101 oh shoot -hSLck-uXTQ-00080-00045102-00045449 where are those coming from -hSLck-uXTQ-00081-00045450-00046273 there's a taxway out there -hSLck-uXTQ-00082-00046274-00049096 holy smokes bro -hSLck-uXTQ-00083-00049097-00049337 there's nothing there brother there's -hSLck-uXTQ-00084-00049338-00049601 nothing there no more they're there's -hSLck-uXTQ-00085-00049602-00051754 nothing there no more -hSLck-uXTQ-00086-00051755-00051935 no more I can't see what they're seeing -hSLck-uXTQ-00087-00051936-00052438 though bro -hSLck-uXTQ-00089-00056186-00056441 they're still there -hSLck-uXTQ-00090-00056441-00057965 bro -hSLck-uXTQ-00091-00057966-00059279 they're still there -hSLck-uXTQ-00092-00059279-00059537 oh that's a oh -hSLck-uXTQ-00093-00059538-00060373 oh -hSLck-uXTQ-00094-00060374-00063107 that was a direct cool right here oh -hSLck-uXTQ-00095-00063108-00063587 they're they're ain't nobody there bro -hSLck-uXTQ-00096-00063588-00064744 oh -hSLck-uXTQ-00097-00064745-00065315 White Flag White Flag white flag -hSLck-uXTQ-00098-00065316-00065465 they got a white flag they got a white -hSLck-uXTQ-00099-00065466-00065638 flag brother they got a white flag don't -hSLck-uXTQ-00100-00065639-00065913 do it ah -hSLck-uXTQ-00101-00065914-00067919 [Applause] -hSLck-uXTQ-00102-00067920-00069844 all of a sudden they want a fucking wife -hSLck-uXTQ-00104-00075095-00075563 yeah you see you see you piece of shits -hSLck-uXTQ-00105-00075564-00075761 you see that's what the fuck you get -hSLck-uXTQ-00106-00075762-00076013 that's what you get you had a white flag -hSLck-uXTQ-00107-00076014-00076276 you had a white flag motherfucker and I -hSLck-uXTQ-00108-00076277-00076462 was feeling sorry for you -hSLck-uXTQ-00109-00076463-00076631 fuck you -hSLck-uXTQ-00110-00076632-00077129 you still threw a grenade fuck you -hSLck-uXTQ-00111-00077130-00077453 you piece of shit look at that -hSLck-uXTQ-00112-00077454-00077677 fucking asshole -hSLck-uXTQ-00113-00077678-00078629 [Music] -hSLck-uXTQ-00114-00078630-00078875 yeah -hSLck-uXTQ-00115-00078876-00080699 hit him get him get him -hSLck-uXTQ-00116-00080700-00080987 oh that's what you get mofos that's what -hSLck-uXTQ-00117-00080988-00081226 you get -hSLck-uXTQ-00118-00081227-00081412 you play dumb games you're gonna get a -hSLck-uXTQ-00119-00081413-00081866 dumb prize maybe until next time we out -ix08iREo3E-00000-00000055-00001135 [Music] -ix08iREo3E-00001-00001136-00001407 most often the cotamoid -ix08iREo3E-00002-00001408-00001767 part of the q-tip is found in the ear -ix08iREo3E-00003-00001768-00002039 canal -ix08iREo3E-00004-00002039-00002423 different living or -ix08iREo3E-00005-00002424-00002718 non-living foreign bodies can be found -ix08iREo3E-00006-00002719-00002934 also in the ear canal such as -ix08iREo3E-00007-00002935-00003238 different types of toys plastics or -ix08iREo3E-00008-00003239-00003663 bags -ix08iREo3E-00009-00003664-00004127 we can use different size and shaped -ix08iREo3E-00010-00004128-00004399 ear forceps such as crocodile forceps to -ix08iREo3E-00011-00004400-00004631 remove foreign bodies which can be well -ix08iREo3E-00012-00004632-00005015 grabbed also -ix08iREo3E-00013-00005016-00005318 electric suction is a useful tool to -ix08iREo3E-00014-00005319-00005415 remove -ix08iREo3E-00015-00005416-00005735 foreign bodies -ix08iREo3E-00016-00005736-00005943 we often use electric suction for -ix08iREo3E-00017-00005944-00006231 removing or bags -ix08iREo3E-00018-00006232-00006614 or a enzyme's hook -ix08iREo3E-00019-00006615-00006934 can also be used it is a tool that -ix08iREo3E-00020-00006936-00007310 has a rectangular tip -ix08iREo3E-00021-00007311-00007591 with these instruments we can go behind -ix08iREo3E-00022-00007592-00007623 the -ix08iREo3E-00023-00007623-00007934 foreign body and pull it back -ix08iREo3E-00024-00007936-00008342 out do not try to use -ix08iREo3E-00025-00008343-00008574 air force apps to remove roundish -ix08iREo3E-00026-00008575-00008695 foreign bodies -ix08iREo3E-00027-00008696-00008935 as it would just further push the form -ix08iREo3E-00028-00008936-00010206 body into the ear canal -ix08iREo3E-00029-00010207-00010510 johnson hook is also good -ix08iREo3E-00030-00010511-00010838 to remove wax especially -ix08iREo3E-00031-00010839-00011823 when the wax is hard in consistency -ix08iREo3E-00032-00011824-00012142 with these two the likeness of hurting -ix08iREo3E-00033-00012143-00012455 and causing injury on the ear canal is -ix08iREo3E-00034-00012456-00012783 minimal also irrigation is -ix08iREo3E-00035-00012784-00013207 useful to remove foreign bodies -ix08iREo3E-00036-00013208-00013486 use body warm water to wash out the ear -ix08iREo3E-00037-00013487-00013599 canal -ix08iREo3E-00038-00013600-00014015 and do not use irrigation in case of -ix08iREo3E-00039-00014016-00014166 perforated eardrum -ix08iREo3E-00040-00014168-00014551 or in case of external otitis -ix08iREo3E-00041-00014552-00016343 thank you for your attention -ix08iREo3E-00042-00016344-00016647 people tend to clean the ears -ix08iREo3E-00043-00016648-00016983 with the cotton buds -ix08iREo3E-00044-00016984-00017350 sometimes different plastic foreign -ix08iREo3E-00045-00017351-00017575 bodies can retain in the ear canal or -ix08iREo3E-00046-00017576-00017663 backs -ix08iREo3E-00047-00017664-00018127 or sometimes leaving foreign bodies -ix08iREo3E-00048-00018128-00018479 the easiest way to remove -ix08iREo3E-00049-00018480-00018727 foreign bodies from the ear canal is -ix08iREo3E-00050-00018728-00019007 with the use of -ix08iREo3E-00051-00019008-00019527 crocodile forceps or an ear forceps -ix08iREo3E-00052-00019528-00020047 sometimes you can use electric suction -ix08iREo3E-00053-00020048-00021030 it is especially useful to remove packs -ix08iREo3E-00054-00021031-00021430 or we can use -ix08iREo3E-00055-00021431-00021799 jansen's hook the tip of the jansen's -ix08iREo3E-00056-00021800-00021919 hook -ix08iREo3E-00057-00021920-00022222 is rectangular in shape -ix08iREo3E-00058-00022223-00022543 and it's easy to pull around foreign -ix08iREo3E-00059-00022544-00022622 body -ix08iREo3E-00060-00022623-00022975 from the ear canal -ix08iREo3E-00061-00022976-00023286 do not use ear forceps for -ix08iREo3E-00062-00023287-00023599 removing roundish foreign bodies as it -ix08iREo3E-00063-00023600-00023655 would -ix08iREo3E-00064-00023656-00024014 further push in the form body -ix08iREo3E-00065-00024015-00024750 into the deeper part of the ear canal -ix08iREo3E-00066-00024751-00024975 the enzymes hook can be used not just -ix08iREo3E-00067-00024976-00025078 for -ix08iREo3E-00068-00025079-00025439 round foreign bodies but also for backs -ix08iREo3E-00069-00025440-00025743 or other types of foreign bodies it's a -ix08iREo3E-00070-00025744-00026943 very useful tool -ix08iREo3E-00071-00026944-00027399 we can also use irrigation -ix08iREo3E-00072-00027400-00027702 be sure to use a body of warm water a -ix08iREo3E-00073-00027704-00027846 device you would cause -ix08iREo3E-00074-00027847-00028207 vertigo for the patient do not -ix08iREo3E-00075-00028208-00028527 irrigate and wash out ear canals -ix08iREo3E-00076-00028527-00028807 in case of perforated tympanic membrane -ix08iREo3E-00077-00028808-00029158 or in case of an external otitis -ix08iREo3E-00078-00029160-00029663 thank you for your attention -kqaxlBoFRQ-00000-00000003-00000218 it's the mine show again back tomorrow -kqaxlBoFRQ-00001-00000219-00000364 at five which one's your favorite -kqaxlBoFRQ-00002-00000365-00000553 weather that it is going to a mysterious 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be and I stay strapped with _815epRKnbU-00005-00001163-00001385 the heat [__] I keep it close to me in _815epRKnbU-00006-00001386-00001688 the Trap with the DMI _9RU_fGV9Zu-00000-00000057-00000335 the military history of Gibraltar during _9RU_fGV9Zu-00001-00000336-00000584 World War two exemplifies gibraltars _9RU_fGV9Zu-00002-00000585-00000805 position as a British fortress since the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00003-00000806-00001049 early 18th century and is a vital factor _9RU_fGV9Zu-00004-00001050-00001316 in British military strategy both as a _9RU_fGV9Zu-00005-00001317-00001541 foothold on the continent of Europe and _9RU_fGV9Zu-00006-00001542-00001868 as a bastion of British sea power during _9RU_fGV9Zu-00007-00001869-00002147 World War two Gibraltar served a vital _9RU_fGV9Zu-00008-00002148-00002372 role in both the Atlantic Theatre in the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00009-00002373-00002576 Mediterranean theatre controlling _9RU_fGV9Zu-00010-00002577-00002816 virtually all naval traffic into and out _9RU_fGV9Zu-00011-00002817-00002996 of the Mediterranean Sea from the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00012-00002997-00003211 Atlantic Ocean in addition to its _9RU_fGV9Zu-00013-00003213-00003476 commanding position Gibraltar provided a _9RU_fGV9Zu-00014-00003477-00003668 strongly defended harbour from which _9RU_fGV9Zu-00015-00003669-00003842 ships could operate in both the Atlantic _9RU_fGV9Zu-00016-00003843-00004226 and the Mediterranean for Sage under the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00017-00004227-00004463 command of Vice Admiral James Somerville _9RU_fGV9Zu-00018-00004464-00004679 was based in Gibraltar and had the task _9RU_fGV9Zu-00019-00004680-00004937 of maintaining naval superiority and _9RU_fGV9Zu-00020-00004938-00005186 providing a strong escort for convoys to _9RU_fGV9Zu-00021-00005187-00005419 and from the besieged island of Malta _9RU_fGV9Zu-00022-00005420-00005678 during the course of the war Gibraltar _9RU_fGV9Zu-00023-00005679-00005951 came under aerial bombardment from Vichy _9RU_fGV9Zu-00024-00005952-00006181 French aircraft and from aircraft of the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00025-00006182-00006359 Italian Royal Air Force _9RU_fGV9Zu-00026-00006360-00006655 regi aeronautica based on Sardinia _9RU_fGV9Zu-00027-00006656-00006926 additionally the fortress was the focus _9RU_fGV9Zu-00028-00006927-00007148 of underwater attacks by the Italian _9RU_fGV9Zu-00029-00007148-00007463 Royal Navy regia marina commando frogmen _9RU_fGV9Zu-00030-00007464-00007714 units decima flotte Elia mas and their _9RU_fGV9Zu-00031-00007715-00008075 human torpedoes this Italian unit was _9RU_fGV9Zu-00032-00008076-00008318 based on the interned Italian ship SS _9RU_fGV9Zu-00033-00008319-00008555 all terror in the nearby Spanish harbor _9RU_fGV9Zu-00034-00008556-00008873 of Algeciras a number of attacks were _9RU_fGV9Zu-00035-00008874-00009059 also carried out by Spanish and _9RU_fGV9Zu-00036-00009060-00009323 Gibraltarian agents acting on behalf of _9RU_fGV9Zu-00037-00009324-00009638 the German Abwehr inside the Rock of _9RU_fGV9Zu-00038-00009639-00009899 Gibraltar itself miles of tunnels were _9RU_fGV9Zu-00039-00009900-00010220 excavated from the limestone masses of _9RU_fGV9Zu-00040-00010221-00010409 rock were blasted out to build an _9RU_fGV9Zu-00041-00010410-00010784 underground city in huge man-made _9RU_fGV9Zu-00042-00010785-00011063 caverns barracks offices and a fully _9RU_fGV9Zu-00043-00011064-00011258 equipped hospital were constructed _9RU_fGV9Zu-00044-00011259-00011477 complete with an operating theatre and _9RU_fGV9Zu-00045-00011478-00011753 x-ray equipment operation torched the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00046-00011754-00011948 Allied invasion of French North Africa _9RU_fGV9Zu-00047-00011949-00012320 in November 1942 was coordinated from _9RU_fGV9Zu-00048-00012321-00012731 the ROC General Dwight D Eisenhower who _9RU_fGV9Zu-00049-00012732-00012967 was given command of the operation set _9RU_fGV9Zu-00050-00012968-00013189 up his headquarters in Gibraltar during _9RU_fGV9Zu-00051-00013190-00013436 the planning phases of the operation _9RU_fGV9Zu-00052-00013437-00013679 following the successful completion of _9RU_fGV9Zu-00053-00013680-00013865 the North African campaign and the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00054-00013866-00014186 surrender of Italy in 1943 gibraltars _9RU_fGV9Zu-00055-00014187-00014386 role shifted from a forward operating _9RU_fGV9Zu-00056-00014387-00014747 base to a rear area supply position the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00057-00014747-00014978 harbour continued to operate dry docks _9RU_fGV9Zu-00058-00014979-00015208 and supply depots for the convoy routes _9RU_fGV9Zu-00059-00015209-00015440 through the Mediterranean until VE Day _9RU_fGV9Zu-00060-00015441-00016128 in 1945 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00061-00016129-00016786 topic Prelude an evacuation _9RU_fGV9Zu-00062-00016787-00017068 World War two dramatically changed the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00063-00017069-00017361 lives of Gibraltarians the decision to _9RU_fGV9Zu-00064-00017362-00017590 enforce mass evacuation in order to _9RU_fGV9Zu-00065-00017591-00017764 increase the strength of the rock with _9RU_fGV9Zu-00066-00017765-00017986 more military and naval personnel meant _9RU_fGV9Zu-00067-00017987-00018235 that most Gibraltarians some for up to _9RU_fGV9Zu-00068-00018236-00018565 ten years had nowhere to call home only _9RU_fGV9Zu-00069-00018566-00018828 those civilians with essential jobs were _9RU_fGV9Zu-00070-00018829-00019033 allowed to stay but it gave the entire _9RU_fGV9Zu-00071-00019034-00019278 community a sense of being British by _9RU_fGV9Zu-00072-00019279-00019518 sharing in the war effort in early June _9RU_fGV9Zu-00073-00019519-00019963 1940 about 13,500 evacuees were shipped _9RU_fGV9Zu-00074-00019964-00020302 to Casablanca in French Morocco however _9RU_fGV9Zu-00075-00020303-00020530 following the capitulation of the French _9RU_fGV9Zu-00076-00020531-00020842 to the German armies later in June 1940 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00077-00020843-00021049 the new Pro German French Vichy _9RU_fGV9Zu-00078-00021050-00021222 government found the presence of _9RU_fGV9Zu-00079-00021223-00021480 Gibraltarian evacuee Xin Casablanca and _9RU_fGV9Zu-00080-00021481-00021694 embarrassment and sought opportunities _9RU_fGV9Zu-00081-00021695-00022005 for their removal the opportunity soon _9RU_fGV9Zu-00082-00022006-00022269 arose when fifteen British cargo vessels _9RU_fGV9Zu-00083-00022270-00022469 arrived under Commodore Crichton _9RU_fGV9Zu-00084-00022470-00022702 repatriating fifteen thousand French _9RU_fGV9Zu-00085-00022703-00022915 servicemen who had been rescued from _9RU_fGV9Zu-00086-00022916-00023005 Dunkirk _9RU_fGV9Zu-00087-00023006-00023290 once their own rescued servicemen had _9RU_fGV9Zu-00088-00023291-00023494 disembarked the ships were interned _9RU_fGV9Zu-00089-00023495-00023683 until they agreed to take away all the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00090-00023684-00023992 evacuees although Crichton was unable to _9RU_fGV9Zu-00091-00023993-00024217 obtain permission to clean and restock _9RU_fGV9Zu-00092-00024218-00024418 his ships and contrary to British _9RU_fGV9Zu-00093-00024419-00024616 Admiralty orders which forbade the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00094-00024617-00024834 taking on of evacuees when he saw the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00095-00024835-00025036 mass of civilians pouring through the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00096-00025037-00025284 dockyards he opened up his gangways for _9RU_fGV9Zu-00097-00025285-00025594 boarding just beforehand the British _9RU_fGV9Zu-00098-00025595-00025800 fleet had destroyed a number of French _9RU_fGV9Zu-00099-00025801-00026044 warships at mers-el-kebir in order to _9RU_fGV9Zu-00100-00026045-00026264 prevent them ending up in German hands _9RU_fGV9Zu-00101-00026266-00026761 the attack during which 1297 French _9RU_fGV9Zu-00102-00026762-00027043 sailors died led to high tensions which _9RU_fGV9Zu-00103-00027044-00027220 were evident when families were forced _9RU_fGV9Zu-00104-00027220-00027462 at Bayonet Point by French troops to _9RU_fGV9Zu-00105-00027463-00027610 board taking only what they could carry _9RU_fGV9Zu-00106-00027611-00027961 leaving many possessions behind however _9RU_fGV9Zu-00107-00027962-00028207 when they arrived at Gibraltar the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00108-00028208-00028369 governor would not allow them to land _9RU_fGV9Zu-00109-00028370-00028606 fearing that once the evacuees were back _9RU_fGV9Zu-00110-00028607-00028792 on the rock it would be virtually _9RU_fGV9Zu-00111-00028793-00029008 impossible to evacuate them a second _9RU_fGV9Zu-00112-00029008-00029335 time crowds gathered in John Mackintosh _9RU_fGV9Zu-00113-00029336-00029562 square in the centre of Gibraltar as the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00114-00029563-00029796 news broke speeches were made and two _9RU_fGV9Zu-00115-00029797-00029986 City counselors accompanied by the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00116-00029987-00030183 Acting President of the exchange _9RU_fGV9Zu-00117-00030184-00030387 commercial library went to see the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00118-00030388-00030618 governor Sir Clive little to ask that _9RU_fGV9Zu-00119-00030619-00030927 the evacuees be allowed to land after _9RU_fGV9Zu-00120-00030928-00031149 receiving instructions from London a _9RU_fGV9Zu-00121-00031150-00031323 landing was allowed as long as the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00122-00031324-00031510 evacuees returned when other ships _9RU_fGV9Zu-00123-00031511-00031698 arrived to take them away from the rock _9RU_fGV9Zu-00124-00031699-00031977 and by the 13th of July the reevaluation _9RU_fGV9Zu-00125-00031978-00032196 back to Gibraltar had been completed _9RU_fGV9Zu-00126-00032197-00032466 British Conservative politician Oliver _9RU_fGV9Zu-00127-00032467-00032682 Stanley agreed to accept the evacuees in _9RU_fGV9Zu-00128-00032683-00032904 the United Kingdom but he argued with _9RU_fGV9Zu-00129-00032905-00033108 Gibraltar over the number of people _9RU_fGV9Zu-00130-00033109-00033432 involved the governor he declared had _9RU_fGV9Zu-00131-00033433-00033648 given the number of a vacuous first as _9RU_fGV9Zu-00132-00033649-00033995 13,000 then as 14,000 and finally as _9RU_fGV9Zu-00133-00033996-00034374 16,000 he asked for the situation to be _9RU_fGV9Zu-00134-00034375-00034602 clarified stressing the shortage of _9RU_fGV9Zu-00135-00034603-00034815 accommodation in Britain and insisting _9RU_fGV9Zu-00136-00034816-00035145 that only 13,000 could be accepted 2,000 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00137-00035146-00035277 of whom were to be sent to the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00138-00035278-00035507 Portuguese Atlantic island of Madeira _9RU_fGV9Zu-00139-00035508-00035848 the situation replied general Lidl on _9RU_fGV9Zu-00140-00035849-00036099 the 19th of July is that this is a _9RU_fGV9Zu-00141-00036100-00036360 fortress liable to heavy and immediate _9RU_fGV9Zu-00142-00036361-00036598 attack and there should be no civilians _9RU_fGV9Zu-00143-00036599-00036885 here whereas there are 22,000 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00144-00036886-00037251 the 13,000 was the number sent to _9RU_fGV9Zu-00145-00037252-00037470 Morocco and more would have been sent _9RU_fGV9Zu-00146-00037471-00037790 had the situation there not altered in _9RU_fGV9Zu-00147-00037791-00038061 London the evacuees were placed in the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00148-00038062-00038277 hands of the Ministry of Health and many _9RU_fGV9Zu-00149-00038278-00038598 were housed in Kensington area concern _9RU_fGV9Zu-00150-00038599-00038805 for them in Gibraltar mounted as the air _9RU_fGV9Zu-00151-00038806-00039085 raids against London intensified coupled _9RU_fGV9Zu-00152-00039086-00039261 with the arrival of harrowing letters _9RU_fGV9Zu-00153-00039262-00039480 describing the circumstances in which _9RU_fGV9Zu-00154-00039481-00039823 the evacuees were living in September _9RU_fGV9Zu-00155-00039824-00040041 rumours were already circulating among _9RU_fGV9Zu-00156-00040042-00040293 the evacuees and in Gibraltar that the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00157-00040294-00040488 possibility of reevaluating the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00158-00040489-00040719 Gibraltarians once more was being mooted _9RU_fGV9Zu-00159-00040720-00040954 this time the destination being Jamaica _9RU_fGV9Zu-00160-00040955-00041123 in the West Indies _9RU_fGV9Zu-00161-00041124-00041445 after much contention it was decided to _9RU_fGV9Zu-00162-00041446-00041691 send a party directly from Gibraltar to _9RU_fGV9Zu-00163-00041692-00042060 the island and 1093 of a qyz left for _9RU_fGV9Zu-00164-00042061-00042304 Jamaica direct on the 9th of October _9RU_fGV9Zu-00165-00042305-00042573 with more following later on however _9RU_fGV9Zu-00166-00042574-00042816 petitions followed and the demands were _9RU_fGV9Zu-00167-00042817-00043071 met partly for strategic reasons and the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00168-00043072-00043392 lack of available shipping the situation _9RU_fGV9Zu-00169-00043393-00043579 at the end of 1940 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00170-00043580-00043852 therefore was that approximately 2,000 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00171-00043853-00044055 of a qyz were in Jamaica and a lesser _9RU_fGV9Zu-00172-00044056-00044257 number in Madeira with the bulk of _9RU_fGV9Zu-00173-00044258-00045046 around 10,000 housed in the London area _9RU_fGV9Zu-00174-00045047-00045532 topic Royal Air Force involvement 1939 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00175-00045533-00046117 to 1941 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00176-00046118-00046373 construction of a solid surface runway _9RU_fGV9Zu-00177-00046374-00046754 began in late 1939 and in 1940 it was _9RU_fGV9Zu-00178-00046755-00046973 proposed to extend the existing runway _9RU_fGV9Zu-00179-00046974-00047192 to a length of one thousand five hundred _9RU_fGV9Zu-00180-00047193-00047720 and fifty yards 1417 meters the land _9RU_fGV9Zu-00181-00047721-00047957 reclamation commenced towards the end of _9RU_fGV9Zu-00182-00047958-00048230 1941 along with the construction of an _9RU_fGV9Zu-00183-00048231-00048599 RAF camp at the North front now RAF _9RU_fGV9Zu-00184-00048600-00048866 Gibraltar the RAF dispatched their next _9RU_fGV9Zu-00185-00048867-00049088 squadron to Gibraltar at this time and _9RU_fGV9Zu-00186-00049089-00049391 it was in September 1939 that war with _9RU_fGV9Zu-00187-00049392-00049580 Germany was declared and the strong _9RU_fGV9Zu-00188-00049581-00049780 possibility of German submarines _9RU_fGV9Zu-00189-00049781-00049970 concentrating in the Strait of Gibraltar _9RU_fGV9Zu-00190-00049971-00050273 and using Spanish port facilities loomed _9RU_fGV9Zu-00191-00050274-00050606 large in admiralty thinking so at nine _9RU_fGV9Zu-00192-00050607-00050984 o'clock UTC on the 9th of September 1939 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00193-00050985-00051329 number 202 squadron raf was ordered to _9RU_fGV9Zu-00194-00051329-00051527 gibraltar loaded to the gunnels with _9RU_fGV9Zu-00195-00051528-00051887 equipment on the 25th of september 1939 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00196-00051888-00052229 number 200 coastal group was formed as a _9RU_fGV9Zu-00197-00052229-00052451 subordinate formation to HQ RAF _9RU_fGV9Zu-00198-00052452-00052757 Mediterranean in control of number 202 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00199-00052758-00053041 squadron the group's function was the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00200-00053042-00053242 control of Royal Air Force units _9RU_fGV9Zu-00201-00053244-00053639 operating from Gibraltar in late 1940 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00202-00053640-00053842 the group was transferred to coastal _9RU_fGV9Zu-00203-00053844-00054176 command later a combined HQ was formed _9RU_fGV9Zu-00204-00054177-00055028 which commenced operations in early 1942 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00205-00055029-00055828 topic Vichy French attacks 1940 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00206-00055829-00056178 on the 18th of July 1940 after the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00207-00056179-00056337 attack on the French fleet at _9RU_fGV9Zu-00208-00056338-00056590 mers-el-kebir by the British the Vichy _9RU_fGV9Zu-00209-00056591-00056799 government authorized a bombing raid of _9RU_fGV9Zu-00210-00056800-00057123 Gibraltar as a response little damage _9RU_fGV9Zu-00211-00057124-00057390 was reported to have been done on _9RU_fGV9Zu-00212-00057391-00057690 Tuesday the 24th of September the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00213-00057691-00057981 Italian stefani news agency reported as _9RU_fGV9Zu-00214-00057982-00058263 a reprisal for the bombardment of Dhaka _9RU_fGV9Zu-00215-00058264-00058653 yesterday morning 120 French aircraft _9RU_fGV9Zu-00216-00058654-00058949 based in Morocco attacked Gibraltar on _9RU_fGV9Zu-00217-00058950-00059265 the same day the United Press Agency _9RU_fGV9Zu-00218-00059266-00059550 reported the French government has _9RU_fGV9Zu-00219-00059551-00059802 issued an official denial of reports _9RU_fGV9Zu-00220-00059803-00060054 according to which French aircraft were _9RU_fGV9Zu-00221-00060055-00060393 said to have attacked Gibraltar up until _9RU_fGV9Zu-00222-00060394-00060699 now no reprisals have been undertaken _9RU_fGV9Zu-00223-00060700-00061021 but the United Press report ended on an _9RU_fGV9Zu-00224-00061022-00061299 ominous note with French reprisals are _9RU_fGV9Zu-00225-00061300-00061644 imminent again on the same day the Vichy _9RU_fGV9Zu-00226-00061645-00061846 French government issued orders for the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00227-00061847-00062076 naval base and city of Gibraltar to be _9RU_fGV9Zu-00228-00062077-00062400 bombarded as a result six bomber _9RU_fGV9Zu-00229-00062401-00062625 squadrons of the Vichy French Air Force _9RU_fGV9Zu-00230-00062626-00062922 Armada led a Vichy and four squadrons of _9RU_fGV9Zu-00231-00062923-00063180 the Vichy French Navy marine Nationale _9RU_fGV9Zu-00232-00063181-00063431 de Vichy were employed in the operation _9RU_fGV9Zu-00233-00063432-00063813 the 64 bombers flew from bases in Oran _9RU_fGV9Zu-00234-00063814-00064206 Tafari in Algeria meknes medina and Port _9RU_fGV9Zu-00235-00064207-00064569 Lyautey in Morocco the French action was _9RU_fGV9Zu-00236-00064570-00064782 approved by both the German armistice _9RU_fGV9Zu-00237-00064783-00064980 Commission and the Italian armistice _9RU_fGV9Zu-00238-00064981-00065199 Commission no British aircraft were _9RU_fGV9Zu-00239-00065200-00065422 encountered and much damage was done in _9RU_fGV9Zu-00240-00065423-00065730 the area south of the fortress the South _9RU_fGV9Zu-00241-00065731-00065937 mole and a large ship in the harbour _9RU_fGV9Zu-00242-00065938-00066207 were heavily damaged in the northern _9RU_fGV9Zu-00243-00066208-00066484 part of Gibraltar fires broke out on the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00244-00066485-00066735 25th of September the French returned _9RU_fGV9Zu-00245-00066736-00066978 with a larger force of 83 bombers to _9RU_fGV9Zu-00246-00066979-00067171 cause additional damage to the naval _9RU_fGV9Zu-00247-00067172-00067476 base and harbour installations again _9RU_fGV9Zu-00248-00067477-00067713 aircraft of the British Royal Air Force _9RU_fGV9Zu-00249-00067714-00068049 made no appearance however the French _9RU_fGV9Zu-00250-00068050-00068274 crews did report encountering heavy _9RU_fGV9Zu-00251-00068275-00068703 anti-aircraft fire one leo 451 bomber _9RU_fGV9Zu-00252-00068704-00068952 was lost and 13 other aircraft were _9RU_fGV9Zu-00253-00068953-00069151 lightly damaged during the two days _9RU_fGV9Zu-00254-00069152-00069418 bombing attacks the British armed _9RU_fGV9Zu-00255-00069419-00069718 trawler HMT Stella Sirius was sunk by _9RU_fGV9Zu-00256-00069719-00069970 bombs the air attack on the 25th of _9RU_fGV9Zu-00257-00069971-00070195 September was the last by Vichy forces _9RU_fGV9Zu-00258-00070196-00070827 on gibraltar _9RU_fGV9Zu-00259-00070828-00071741 topic operation Felix 1940 1941 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00260-00071742-00071981 the rock came through the war relatively _9RU_fGV9Zu-00261-00071982-00072191 unscathed but given its strategic _9RU_fGV9Zu-00262-00072192-00072446 importance Germany made plans to capture _9RU_fGV9Zu-00263-00072447-00072944 Gibraltar codenamed Felix the plan which _9RU_fGV9Zu-00264-00072945-00073196 was signed by Adolf Hitler himself was _9RU_fGV9Zu-00265-00073197-00073382 formulated at the highest level of _9RU_fGV9Zu-00266-00073383-00073637 command with or without permission _9RU_fGV9Zu-00267-00073638-00073883 Germany would take entry through Spain _9RU_fGV9Zu-00268-00073884-00074099 and attack Gibraltar driving the British _9RU_fGV9Zu-00269-00074100-00074375 out of the western Mediterranean the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00270-00074376-00074585 Strait would be effectively closed to _9RU_fGV9Zu-00271-00074586-00074813 the Allies once Gibraltar was in German _9RU_fGV9Zu-00272-00074814-00075071 hands forcing Asia bound Allied shipping _9RU_fGV9Zu-00273-00075072-00075278 to steam all the way around Africa _9RU_fGV9Zu-00274-00075279-00075476 rather than to proceed to the east via _9RU_fGV9Zu-00275-00075477-00075599 the shorter routes through the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00276-00075600-00075902 Mediterranean and the Suez Canal the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00277-00075903-00076118 rock was to be heavily dive bombed by _9RU_fGV9Zu-00278-00076119-00076331 planes leaving France but landing _9RU_fGV9Zu-00279-00076332-00076673 afterward at Spanish air bases to deny a _9RU_fGV9Zu-00280-00076674-00076937 possible Spanish capture of the base the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00281-00076938-00077159 German planners decided that the final _9RU_fGV9Zu-00282-00077160-00077375 attack to seize Gibraltar was to be made _9RU_fGV9Zu-00283-00077376-00077621 by German troops alone diplomatic _9RU_fGV9Zu-00284-00077622-00077792 failure at the highest levels of _9RU_fGV9Zu-00285-00077793-00078002 government prevented the operation from _9RU_fGV9Zu-00286-00078003-00078287 occurring at the beginning of 1941 which _9RU_fGV9Zu-00287-00078288-00078512 had been drawn up in detail by the vehm _9RU_fGV9Zu-00288-00078513-00078773 act in the summer in autumn of 1940 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00289-00078774-00079076 general Ludwig kobler's 49th Corps would _9RU_fGV9Zu-00290-00079077-00079265 conduct the actual attack on the rock _9RU_fGV9Zu-00291-00079266-00079580 the assault forces would comprise the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00292-00079581-00079808 infantry regiment gros Deutschland the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00293-00079809-00080042 98th Regiment of the 1st Mountain _9RU_fGV9Zu-00294-00080043-00080324 Division 26 medium and heavy artillery _9RU_fGV9Zu-00295-00080325-00080654 battalions 3 observation battalions 3 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00296-00080655-00080924 Engineer battalions to smoke battalions _9RU_fGV9Zu-00297-00080925-00081266 a detachment of 150 Branden burgers and _9RU_fGV9Zu-00298-00081267-00081566 up to 150 miniature remote controlled _9RU_fGV9Zu-00299-00081567-00081839 demolition vehicles goliaths packed with _9RU_fGV9Zu-00300-00081840-00082082 high explosives as part of a combined _9RU_fGV9Zu-00301-00082083-00082300 force operation the German air force _9RU_fGV9Zu-00302-00082301-00082664 Luftwaffe would contribute 288 as Stukas _9RU_fGV9Zu-00303-00082665-00082892 Messerschmitts 3 light double-a _9RU_fGV9Zu-00304-00082893-00083108 battalions and three heavy double-a _9RU_fGV9Zu-00305-00083109-00083468 battalions nazi germany's Kriegsmarine _9RU_fGV9Zu-00306-00083469-00083696 would cooperate by using u-boats to _9RU_fGV9Zu-00307-00083697-00083906 interfere with British naval movement _9RU_fGV9Zu-00308-00083907-00084122 and emplacing coastal batteries to _9RU_fGV9Zu-00309-00084123-00084359 further discourage the Royal Navy on the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00310-00084360-00084665 10th of March 1941 with Operation _9RU_fGV9Zu-00311-00084666-00084932 Barbarossa looming felix was amended to _9RU_fGV9Zu-00312-00084933-00085100 operation felix hi Marie _9RU_fGV9Zu-00313-00085101-00085274 we're by German troops would be _9RU_fGV9Zu-00314-00085275-00085508 withdrawn from the USSR to capture _9RU_fGV9Zu-00315-00085509-00085796 Gibraltar as a result of Spanish _9RU_fGV9Zu-00316-00085797-00085991 dictator Francisco Franco's _9RU_fGV9Zu-00317-00085992-00086201 intransigence the operation was _9RU_fGV9Zu-00318-00086202-00086435 postponed modified and ultimately _9RU_fGV9Zu-00319-00086436-00087039 abandoned _9RU_fGV9Zu-00320-00087040-00087721 topic Italian bombing of Gibraltar _9RU_fGV9Zu-00321-00087722-00088069 from Sardinia Italian piaggio P point _9RU_fGV9Zu-00322-00088070-00088327 108 bombers attacked Gibraltar several _9RU_fGV9Zu-00323-00088328-00088768 times mainly in 1942 the last raids on _9RU_fGV9Zu-00324-00088769-00089026 Gibraltar were done during the 1942 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00325-00089027-00089287 Allied landing in Algeria when those _9RU_fGV9Zu-00326-00089288-00089515 bombers hit successfully even the Oran _9RU_fGV9Zu-00327-00089516-00089848 port the only unit of the Reggie _9RU_fGV9Zu-00328-00089849-00090127 aeronautica Royal Air Force ever to fly _9RU_fGV9Zu-00329-00090128-00090580 the piaggio P point 108 was the 270 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00330-00090581-00090876 fourth long-range bombardment squadron _9RU_fGV9Zu-00331-00090877-00091279 this unit was formed in May 1941 around _9RU_fGV9Zu-00332-00091280-00091447 the first machines that came off the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00333-00091448-00091774 assembly lines the training of the crews _9RU_fGV9Zu-00334-00091775-00092035 lasted far longer than anticipated and _9RU_fGV9Zu-00335-00092036-00092473 only in June 1942 the 270 fourth became _9RU_fGV9Zu-00336-00092474-00092800 operational the most spectacular raids _9RU_fGV9Zu-00337-00092801-00093058 with the P 108 bombers were flown in _9RU_fGV9Zu-00338-00093059-00093394 October 1942 when several night attacks _9RU_fGV9Zu-00339-00093395-00093613 against Gibraltar were undertaken from _9RU_fGV9Zu-00340-00093614-00093958 Sardinia after the Armistice of Casa _9RU_fGV9Zu-00341-00093959-00094201 Bella the 8th of September the German _9RU_fGV9Zu-00342-00094202-00094456 Allied Italian social Republic launched _9RU_fGV9Zu-00343-00094457-00094717 at least two raids on gibraltar 1 on the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00344-00094718-00095086 night of 4 to 5 june 1944 with 10s m _9RU_fGV9Zu-00345-00095087-00095356 point 7 9 this aircraft and another on _9RU_fGV9Zu-00346-00095357-00095677 the 6th of June with 9 aircraft both _9RU_fGV9Zu-00347-00095678-00095938 sorties were undertaken by the grupo aro _9RU_fGV9Zu-00348-00095939-00096791 Seiler ante bosco glia fagiani _9RU_fGV9Zu-00349-00096792-00097739 topic Italian frogmen raids 1942 1943 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00350-00097740-00098081 known as the floating Trojan horse of _9RU_fGV9Zu-00351-00098082-00098417 Gibraltar decima flot Elia Mars an _9RU_fGV9Zu-00352-00098418-00098693 Italian commando frogmen unit created _9RU_fGV9Zu-00353-00098694-00098926 during the fascist government engaged in _9RU_fGV9Zu-00354-00098927-00099128 numerous attacks against the harbor at _9RU_fGV9Zu-00355-00099129-00099479 Gibraltar Gibraltar was a very tempting _9RU_fGV9Zu-00356-00099480-00099731 target for the Italians who saw it as a _9RU_fGV9Zu-00357-00099732-00099971 refuge for British warships and allied _9RU_fGV9Zu-00358-00099972-00100292 merchant shipping the Italian frogmen _9RU_fGV9Zu-00359-00100293-00100517 originally used a Spanish villa villa _9RU_fGV9Zu-00360-00100518-00100760 Carmela located two miles three _9RU_fGV9Zu-00361-00100761-00100982 kilometers from Gibraltar owned by an _9RU_fGV9Zu-00362-00100983-00101180 Italian officer who had married a _9RU_fGV9Zu-00363-00101181-00101405 Spanish woman named Conchita Ramon II _9RU_fGV9Zu-00364-00101406-00101699 know the base was shifted later to the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00365-00101700-00101912 Italian tanker SS Altera _9RU_fGV9Zu-00366-00101913-00102608 interned in Algeciras _9RU_fGV9Zu-00367-00102608-00103306 topic Abwehr saboteurs from Spain _9RU_fGV9Zu-00368-00103307-00103552 lesser-known than the Italian actions _9RU_fGV9Zu-00369-00103553-00103795 were the sabotage operations and limpet _9RU_fGV9Zu-00370-00103796-00104013 mine attacks carried out by Spanish and _9RU_fGV9Zu-00371-00104014-00104235 Gibraltarian agents recruited in the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00372-00104236-00104572 Campo de Gibraltar by the Germans the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00373-00104573-00104845 Abwehr contacted a Spanish staff officer _9RU_fGV9Zu-00374-00104846-00105019 from campo de Gibraltar _9RU_fGV9Zu-00375-00105020-00105261 leftenant Colonel Elif Theriot sanchez _9RU_fGV9Zu-00376-00105263-00105459 rubio a spanish officer _9RU_fGV9Zu-00377-00105460-00105664 member of the Falange and coordinator of _9RU_fGV9Zu-00378-00105665-00105901 the intelligence operations in the campo _9RU_fGV9Zu-00379-00105902-00106153 to establish a network of saboteurs with _9RU_fGV9Zu-00380-00106154-00106465 access to gibraltar sanchez rubio _9RU_fGV9Zu-00381-00106466-00106774 designated emilio plazas Tahera also a _9RU_fGV9Zu-00382-00106775-00106897 member of Falange _9RU_fGV9Zu-00383-00106898-00107159 as operations chief of the organization _9RU_fGV9Zu-00384-00107160-00107436 most of the recruits for the sabotage _9RU_fGV9Zu-00385-00107438-00107692 operations were spaniards from the campo _9RU_fGV9Zu-00386-00107693-00108008 a combination of financial reward _9RU_fGV9Zu-00387-00108009-00108250 ideological commitment and some threats _9RU_fGV9Zu-00388-00108251-00108454 and intimidation we used to gather a _9RU_fGV9Zu-00389-00108455-00108778 significant number of agents according _9RU_fGV9Zu-00390-00108779-00108979 to the British intelligence there were _9RU_fGV9Zu-00391-00108980-00109339 at least 183 Spaniards and Gibraltarians _9RU_fGV9Zu-00392-00109340-00109570 involved in the espionage and sabotage _9RU_fGV9Zu-00393-00109571-00109833 operations against Gibraltar sabotage _9RU_fGV9Zu-00394-00109834-00110065 operations were ordered from Berlin in _9RU_fGV9Zu-00395-00110066-00110361 the late autumn of 1940 but actual work _9RU_fGV9Zu-00396-00110363-00110776 did not start until early 1941 the first _9RU_fGV9Zu-00397-00110777-00111064 operations were unsuccessful a first _9RU_fGV9Zu-00398-00111065-00111304 attempt to smuggle a bomb into Gibraltar _9RU_fGV9Zu-00399-00111305-00111534 was aborted as the timing device was _9RU_fGV9Zu-00400-00111535-00111838 faulty in February there was a large _9RU_fGV9Zu-00401-00111839-00112054 explosion in the North tunnel and in _9RU_fGV9Zu-00402-00112055-00112257 April a bomb blew up near the airfield _9RU_fGV9Zu-00403-00112258-00112654 in June 1941 however the British _9RU_fGV9Zu-00404-00112655-00112906 intelligence foiled a new attempt by a _9RU_fGV9Zu-00405-00112907-00113140 German agent to attach a mine alongside _9RU_fGV9Zu-00406-00113141-00113488 an allied cargo ship another attempt _9RU_fGV9Zu-00407-00113489-00113695 failed when Plaza's placed a bomb inside _9RU_fGV9Zu-00408-00113696-00113941 an ammunition store but was not able to _9RU_fGV9Zu-00409-00113942-00114270 bring the explosive it was not until _9RU_fGV9Zu-00410-00114271-00114534 1942 that the operations begun to _9RU_fGV9Zu-00411-00114535-00114982 succeed in January 1942 two Spanish _9RU_fGV9Zu-00412-00114983-00115228 agents managed to destroy two aircraft _9RU_fGV9Zu-00413-00115229-00115410 at the North front landing strip _9RU_fGV9Zu-00414-00115411-00115611 financed trained and equipped by the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00415-00115613-00115867 Germans the saboteurs sank the armed _9RU_fGV9Zu-00416-00115868-00116107 trawler HMT aran and destroyed the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00417-00116108-00116398 auxilary minesweeper HMT han Jew which _9RU_fGV9Zu-00418-00116399-00116605 resulted in the deaths of six British _9RU_fGV9Zu-00419-00116606-00116672 seamen on _9RU_fGV9Zu-00420-00116673-00117085 the 18th of January 1942 Plaza's was _9RU_fGV9Zu-00421-00117086-00117328 assisted by the Spanish naval commander _9RU_fGV9Zu-00422-00117329-00117658 of Puente my yoga Manuel Romero Hume who _9RU_fGV9Zu-00423-00117659-00117940 allowed him to Beach a rowboat there the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00424-00117941-00118178 British intelligence was able however to _9RU_fGV9Zu-00425-00118179-00118465 counteract the sabotage operations in _9RU_fGV9Zu-00426-00118466-00118903 March 1942 a Gibraltarian Jose Key one _9RU_fGV9Zu-00427-00118904-00119126 of the most prominent agents working for _9RU_fGV9Zu-00428-00119127-00119308 the Germans responsible for the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00429-00119309-00119503 collection of information on military _9RU_fGV9Zu-00430-00119504-00119708 movements for the Abwehr was arrested _9RU_fGV9Zu-00431-00119708-00119924 and executed in Wandsworth prison in _9RU_fGV9Zu-00432-00119925-00120494 late 1942 by September 1942 plazas whose _9RU_fGV9Zu-00433-00120495-00120709 activities were closely monitored by the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00434-00120710-00120944 British at that time resigned and left _9RU_fGV9Zu-00435-00120945-00121214 Carlos Calva his second-in-command in _9RU_fGV9Zu-00436-00121215-00121609 charge of the operations in late 1942 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00437-00121610-00121840 the German headquarters in Berlin _9RU_fGV9Zu-00438-00121841-00122059 ordered the sabotage operations being _9RU_fGV9Zu-00439-00122060-00122503 expanded in early 1943 the arrival of an _9RU_fGV9Zu-00440-00122504-00122753 experienced head of Abwehr operations in _9RU_fGV9Zu-00441-00122754-00122927 Spain improved the outreach of the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00442-00122928-00123377 operations in March 1943 an ammunition _9RU_fGV9Zu-00443-00123378-00123754 dump was blown up by calvess agents the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00444-00123755-00123961 British growing suspicious of some of _9RU_fGV9Zu-00445-00123963-00124135 the saboteurs banned them from entering _9RU_fGV9Zu-00446-00124136-00124472 Gibraltar this forced the Abwehr to ask _9RU_fGV9Zu-00447-00124473-00124757 Calver for new personnel a Spaniard _9RU_fGV9Zu-00448-00124758-00125024 working on the rock Jose Marti Mehnaz _9RU_fGV9Zu-00449-00125025-00125258 was responsible for the explosion and _9RU_fGV9Zu-00450-00125258-00125501 fire at a large fuel tank at poling _9RU_fGV9Zu-00451-00125502-00125843 island on the 30th of June 1943 this _9RU_fGV9Zu-00452-00125844-00126071 mission however would be the first and _9RU_fGV9Zu-00453-00126072-00126269 the last for Moni Oz because he was _9RU_fGV9Zu-00454-00126270-00126446 cornered and arrested by British _9RU_fGV9Zu-00455-00126447-00126674 authorities in August when he tried to _9RU_fGV9Zu-00456-00126675-00126883 smuggle a bomb into a weapons magazine _9RU_fGV9Zu-00457-00126884-00127202 inside ragged staff cave after being _9RU_fGV9Zu-00458-00127203-00127429 sentenced to death he was hanged on the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00459-00127430-00127772 11th of January 1944 in Gibraltar by _9RU_fGV9Zu-00460-00127773-00128047 British executioner Albert Pierrepoint a _9RU_fGV9Zu-00461-00128048-00128339 member of an unrelated Abwehr sabotage _9RU_fGV9Zu-00462-00128340-00128663 Network Luis Lopez cordon cuenca also _9RU_fGV9Zu-00463-00128664-00128963 arrested in 1943 was executed by _9RU_fGV9Zu-00464-00128964-00129328 Pierpoint on the same day calva himself _9RU_fGV9Zu-00465-00129329-00129535 was put under arrest by the spanish _9RU_fGV9Zu-00466-00129536-00129824 police and neutralized he would be a _9RU_fGV9Zu-00467-00129825-00130036 free man again in December when _9RU_fGV9Zu-00468-00130038-00130253 rejoined the Abwehr in Madrid under _9RU_fGV9Zu-00469-00130254-00130463 direct orders of Wolfgang blam _9RU_fGV9Zu-00470-00130464-00130742 aka Bauman head of the sabotage section _9RU_fGV9Zu-00471-00130743-00131059 in Spain after a foul Lingus attempt _9RU_fGV9Zu-00472-00131060-00131264 against the life of pro allied general _9RU_fGV9Zu-00473-00131265-00131513 Jose Enrique Varela perpetrated by _9RU_fGV9Zu-00474-00131514-00131807 sanchez rubio networks agent juan josé _9RU_fGV9Zu-00475-00131808-00132017 Dominguez in a meeting between Anthony _9RU_fGV9Zu-00476-00132018-00132230 Eden and the Spanish ambassador at _9RU_fGV9Zu-00477-00132231-00132542 London Jacobo Fitz James Stewart Abwehr _9RU_fGV9Zu-00478-00132543-00132770 activities around Gibraltar came to an _9RU_fGV9Zu-00479-00132771-00133332 end _9RU_fGV9Zu-00480-00133333-00134271 topic operation tracer 1941 1942 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00481-00134272-00134512 operation tracer was a top-secret _9RU_fGV9Zu-00482-00134513-00134767 British stay behind spying mission that _9RU_fGV9Zu-00483-00134768-00134995 was only to be implemented if Gibraltar _9RU_fGV9Zu-00484-00134996-00135216 was captured by the Axis powers _9RU_fGV9Zu-00485-00135217-00135520 six men were to be sealed in a cave and _9RU_fGV9Zu-00486-00135521-00135712 left with enough supplies for seven _9RU_fGV9Zu-00487-00135713-00135775 years _9RU_fGV9Zu-00488-00135776-00136177 the volunteers two doctors three signal _9RU_fGV9Zu-00489-00136178-00136390 men and their leader would run an _9RU_fGV9Zu-00490-00136391-00136699 observation post with one 12-inch 300 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00491-00136700-00137050 millimetres by 6 inch 150 millimetres _9RU_fGV9Zu-00492-00137051-00137236 slit looking over the harbor and a _9RU_fGV9Zu-00493-00137237-00137422 concealed outdoor terrace over the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00494-00137423-00137704 Mediterranean the team would then wire _9RU_fGV9Zu-00495-00137705-00137905 back all shipping movements to the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00496-00137906-00138115 British Admiralty they were told there _9RU_fGV9Zu-00497-00138116-00138328 would be no way out and anyone who died _9RU_fGV9Zu-00498-00138329-00138487 within the chamber would have to be _9RU_fGV9Zu-00499-00138488-00138670 embalmed and cemented into the brick _9RU_fGV9Zu-00500-00138671-00138937 floor only if Germany was defeated _9RU_fGV9Zu-00501-00138938-00139117 within the first year would they be _9RU_fGV9Zu-00502-00139118-00139354 released as the threat of invasion was _9RU_fGV9Zu-00503-00139355-00139699 clearly felt in late 1941 an idea for a _9RU_fGV9Zu-00504-00139700-00139975 series of secret observation posts first _9RU_fGV9Zu-00505-00139976-00140191 in Gibraltar and later in other places _9RU_fGV9Zu-00506-00140192-00140416 like Malta and Aden was put together _9RU_fGV9Zu-00507-00140417-00140707 under operation tracer work in Gibraltar _9RU_fGV9Zu-00508-00140708-00140893 began immediately under commander _9RU_fGV9Zu-00509-00140894-00141055 Jeffery Burleigh and his chief engineer _9RU_fGV9Zu-00510-00141056-00141412 Colonel Fordham the site chosen at Lord _9RU_fGV9Zu-00511-00141413-00141622 Aires battery on the southern tip of the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00512-00141623-00141847 rock already had an existing tunnelling _9RU_fGV9Zu-00513-00141848-00142198 scheme for a shelter extensive trials of _9RU_fGV9Zu-00514-00142199-00142477 the equipment began in January 1942 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00515-00142478-00142744 under the eye of mi6 radio expert _9RU_fGV9Zu-00516-00142745-00143059 Colonel Richard Gambia Perry much _9RU_fGV9Zu-00517-00143060-00143284 thought was also given to the type of _9RU_fGV9Zu-00518-00143285-00143473 men needed for such a strange and _9RU_fGV9Zu-00519-00143474-00143770 demanding task a member of Scots _9RU_fGV9Zu-00520-00143771-00143964 ill-fated expedition to the Antarctic _9RU_fGV9Zu-00521-00143965-00144244 George Murray Levesque was called up as _9RU_fGV9Zu-00522-00144245-00144484 Surgeon Commander to advise on survival _9RU_fGV9Zu-00523-00144485-00144787 techniques there were practical matters _9RU_fGV9Zu-00524-00144788-00145111 such as diet exercise sanitation and _9RU_fGV9Zu-00525-00145112-00145356 clothing to consider as well as vital _9RU_fGV9Zu-00526-00145357-00145687 psychology of the personnel the full _9RU_fGV9Zu-00527-00145688-00145911 team was in place by the end of summer _9RU_fGV9Zu-00528-00145912-00146206 1942 and the cavern fully equipped and _9RU_fGV9Zu-00529-00146207-00146524 ready for occupation a comprehensive _9RU_fGV9Zu-00530-00146525-00146755 manual was prepared on all aspects of _9RU_fGV9Zu-00531-00146756-00146941 the operation and it was considered that _9RU_fGV9Zu-00532-00146942-00147178 similar secret lookout posts should be _9RU_fGV9Zu-00533-00147179-00147334 prepared throughout the world in the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00534-00147335-00147561 event of future Wars _9RU_fGV9Zu-00535-00147562-00147810 however operation tracer was never _9RU_fGV9Zu-00536-00147811-00148026 needed as Adolphe Hitler turned his _9RU_fGV9Zu-00537-00148027-00148209 attention away from Gibraltar and _9RU_fGV9Zu-00538-00148210-00148449 towards the Eastern Front the operation _9RU_fGV9Zu-00539-00148450-00148647 had been clouded in mystery until the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00540-00148648-00148872 discovery of papers at the public record _9RU_fGV9Zu-00541-00148873-00149313 office in QK previously in the 1960s _9RU_fGV9Zu-00542-00149314-00149532 details of the story were told to a _9RU_fGV9Zu-00543-00149533-00149754 journalist by his intelligence service _9RU_fGV9Zu-00544-00149755-00149969 contacts and he wrote these uppers _9RU_fGV9Zu-00545-00149970-00150300 operation monkey yet facts were very _9RU_fGV9Zu-00546-00150301-00150813 sparse in 1997 stay behind cave as it _9RU_fGV9Zu-00547-00150814-00150996 was nicknamed was discovered in _9RU_fGV9Zu-00548-00150997-00151224 Gibraltar by the Gibraltar caving group _9RU_fGV9Zu-00549-00151225-00151431 but no account was ever obtained from _9RU_fGV9Zu-00550-00151432-00151731 anyone associated with the mission the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00551-00151732-00151923 discovery came about when the group _9RU_fGV9Zu-00552-00151924-00152141 encountered a strong gust of wind in a _9RU_fGV9Zu-00553-00152142-00152415 tunnel further searching led him to _9RU_fGV9Zu-00554-00152416-00152616 break through a wall into chambers which _9RU_fGV9Zu-00555-00152617-00152790 had never been used and had remained _9RU_fGV9Zu-00556-00152791-00152979 sealed for over 50 years _9RU_fGV9Zu-00557-00152980-00153333 in November 2006 Jim Crone and sergeant _9RU_fGV9Zu-00558-00153334-00153591 major Pete Jackson senior tunnel guide _9RU_fGV9Zu-00559-00153592-00153813 with the Royal Gibraltar regiment met _9RU_fGV9Zu-00560-00153814-00153993 possibly the only member of operation _9RU_fGV9Zu-00561-00153994-00154245 tracer still alive when they traveled to _9RU_fGV9Zu-00562-00154246-00154521 meet dr. W a Bruce Cooper at his home in _9RU_fGV9Zu-00563-00154522-00154610 England _9RU_fGV9Zu-00564-00154611-00154953 Cooper 92 at the time provided an _9RU_fGV9Zu-00565-00154954-00155145 opportunity to shed light on the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00566-00155146-00155382 operation with his direct involvement in _9RU_fGV9Zu-00567-00155383-00155577 the mission as a surgeon left Tennant in _9RU_fGV9Zu-00568-00155578-00155879 the Royal Navy volunteer reserve our MVR _9RU_fGV9Zu-00569-00155880-00156179 he recalled stories about his colleagues _9RU_fGV9Zu-00570-00156180-00156414 his training and his feelings about the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00571-00156415-00157006 task _9RU_fGV9Zu-00572-00157007-00157534 topic Mediterranean u-boat campaign 1941 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00573-00157535-00158093 to 1944 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00574-00158094-00158413 the Mediterranean u-boat campaign lasted _9RU_fGV9Zu-00575-00158414-00158693 approximately from the 21st of September _9RU_fGV9Zu-00576-00158694-00158998 1941 to May 1944 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00577-00158999-00159222 the kriegsmarine tried to isolate _9RU_fGV9Zu-00578-00159223-00159535 Gibraltar Malta and Suez and disrupt _9RU_fGV9Zu-00579-00159536-00159883 Britain's trade routes more than 60 u _9RU_fGV9Zu-00580-00159884-00160075 boats were sent to interdict Allied _9RU_fGV9Zu-00581-00160076-00160290 shipping in the Mediterranean Sea _9RU_fGV9Zu-00582-00160291-00160576 many of these u-boats were themselves _9RU_fGV9Zu-00583-00160577-00160750 attacked negotiating the Strait of _9RU_fGV9Zu-00584-00160751-00161065 Gibraltar controlled by Britain nine _9RU_fGV9Zu-00585-00161066-00161254 u-boats were sunk while attempting _9RU_fGV9Zu-00586-00161255-00162007 passage and ten more were damaged _9RU_fGV9Zu-00587-00162008-00162842 topic North African campaign 1942 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00588-00162843-00163103 plans for the Allied counter-offensive _9RU_fGV9Zu-00589-00163104-00163307 after the attack on Pearl Harbor were _9RU_fGV9Zu-00590-00163308-00163703 ongoing by mid-1942 an invasion of _9RU_fGV9Zu-00591-00163704-00164029 Europe in 1943 would be unworkable but _9RU_fGV9Zu-00592-00164030-00164237 the Allies could attack the soft _9RU_fGV9Zu-00593-00164238-00164495 underbelly of Europe through the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00594-00164496-00164726 Mediterranean as Prime Minister Winston _9RU_fGV9Zu-00595-00164727-00165047 Churchill put it devised by President _9RU_fGV9Zu-00596-00165048-00165257 Franklin Roosevelt and Churchill and _9RU_fGV9Zu-00597-00165258-00165515 codenamed Operation Torch the plan was _9RU_fGV9Zu-00598-00165516-00165754 to occupy French North Africa Morocco _9RU_fGV9Zu-00599-00165755-00166136 Algeria and Tunisia from these French _9RU_fGV9Zu-00600-00166137-00166364 colonies attacks could be launched that _9RU_fGV9Zu-00601-00166365-00166601 would drive Italy out of the war in July _9RU_fGV9Zu-00602-00166602-00166727 1942 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00603-00166728-00166973 leftenant General Dwight D Eisenhower _9RU_fGV9Zu-00604-00166974-00167201 was appointed allied commander in chief _9RU_fGV9Zu-00605-00167202-00167513 of Operation Torch Churchill placed _9RU_fGV9Zu-00606-00167514-00167726 Gibraltar under the command of General _9RU_fGV9Zu-00607-00167727-00167948 Eisenhower as the temporary headquarters _9RU_fGV9Zu-00608-00167949-00168139 for this the first large-scale _9RU_fGV9Zu-00609-00168140-00168454 anglo-american operation of the war he _9RU_fGV9Zu-00610-00168455-00168653 arrived in Gibraltar on the 5th of _9RU_fGV9Zu-00611-00168654-00168989 November 1942 to take over not just _9RU_fGV9Zu-00612-00168990-00169235 command of Operation Torch itself but _9RU_fGV9Zu-00613-00169236-00169451 also military command of Gibraltar _9RU_fGV9Zu-00614-00169452-00169715 General Eisenhower stayed at the convent _9RU_fGV9Zu-00615-00169716-00169910 the official governor's residence but _9RU_fGV9Zu-00616-00169911-00170111 his operational headquarters were in a _9RU_fGV9Zu-00617-00170112-00170300 small chamber in a tunnel in the heart _9RU_fGV9Zu-00618-00170301-00170600 of the rock in his memoirs General _9RU_fGV9Zu-00619-00170601-00170906 Eisenhower wrote the subterranean _9RU_fGV9Zu-00620-00170907-00171107 passages under the rock provided the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00621-00171108-00171344 soul available office space and Anam was _9RU_fGV9Zu-00622-00171345-00171581 located the signal equipment by which we _9RU_fGV9Zu-00623-00171582-00171754 expected to keep in touch with the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00624-00171755-00171964 commanders of the three assault forces _9RU_fGV9Zu-00625-00171965-00172268 the eternal darkness of the tunnels was _9RU_fGV9Zu-00626-00172269-00172445 here and they're partially pierced by _9RU_fGV9Zu-00627-00172446-00172816 feeble electric bulbs damp cold air and _9RU_fGV9Zu-00628-00172817-00172997 block long passages was heavy with _9RU_fGV9Zu-00629-00172998-00173207 stagnation and did not noticeably _9RU_fGV9Zu-00630-00173208-00173399 respond to the clattering efforts of _9RU_fGV9Zu-00631-00173400-00173666 electric fans through the arched _9RU_fGV9Zu-00632-00173667-00173948 ceilings came a constant drip drip drip _9RU_fGV9Zu-00633-00173949-00174173 of surface water that faithfully but _9RU_fGV9Zu-00634-00174174-00174353 rarely ticked off the seconds of the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00635-00174354-00174611 interminable almost unendurable wait _9RU_fGV9Zu-00636-00174612-00174824 which always occurs between completion _9RU_fGV9Zu-00637-00174825-00175037 of a military plan and the moment action _9RU_fGV9Zu-00638-00175038-00175484 begins 100,000 soldiers on the high seas _9RU_fGV9Zu-00639-00175485-00175718 in a multitude of transports converged _9RU_fGV9Zu-00640-00175719-00176090 on Gibraltar more than 400 aircraft of _9RU_fGV9Zu-00641-00176091-00176225 all types were crammed in _9RU_fGV9Zu-00642-00176226-00176408 to the dispersal areas around the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00643-00176409-00176696 Gibraltar runway fighters had been _9RU_fGV9Zu-00644-00176697-00176888 shipped in crates and assembled on the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00645-00176889-00177206 airfield every available area of storage _9RU_fGV9Zu-00646-00177207-00177461 was taken up with ammunition fuel and _9RU_fGV9Zu-00647-00177462-00177935 other essential supplies 168 American _9RU_fGV9Zu-00648-00177936-00178160 pilots were housed in the RAF messes at _9RU_fGV9Zu-00649-00178161-00178573 north front on the 8th of november 1942 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00650-00178574-00178880 466 aircraft from Gibraltar landed on _9RU_fGV9Zu-00651-00178881-00179228 captured North African airfields from _9RU_fGV9Zu-00652-00179229-00179462 their headquarters in Gibraltar General _9RU_fGV9Zu-00653-00179463-00179702 Eisenhower and Admiral Sir Andrew Brown _9RU_fGV9Zu-00654-00179703-00179939 Cunningham directed operation torched _9RU_fGV9Zu-00655-00179940-00180140 the first major combined combat _9RU_fGV9Zu-00656-00180141-00180398 operation during World War two involving _9RU_fGV9Zu-00657-00180399-00181087 American and British forces _9RU_fGV9Zu-00658-00181088-00181645 topic war tunnels _9RU_fGV9Zu-00659-00181646-00181900 given that Gibraltar was a small town _9RU_fGV9Zu-00660-00181901-00182134 with only a few defenses protecting it _9RU_fGV9Zu-00661-00182135-00182320 the solution was to build a massive _9RU_fGV9Zu-00662-00182321-00182557 series of tunnels and chambers inside _9RU_fGV9Zu-00663-00182558-00182728 the natural protection of the Rock of _9RU_fGV9Zu-00664-00182729-00183166 Gibraltar this town inside the rock _9RU_fGV9Zu-00665-00183167-00183415 contained its own power station water _9RU_fGV9Zu-00666-00183416-00183772 supply and hospital some soldiers posted _9RU_fGV9Zu-00667-00183773-00183973 here would not see the light of day for _9RU_fGV9Zu-00668-00183974-00184324 months on end two Canadian engineer _9RU_fGV9Zu-00669-00184325-00184576 companies the only soldiers with diamond _9RU_fGV9Zu-00670-00184577-00184798 tip drills and five British engineer _9RU_fGV9Zu-00671-00184799-00185077 companies added some 30 miles 48 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00672-00185078-00185326 kilometres of such tunnels a feat _9RU_fGV9Zu-00673-00185327-00185617 thought impossible at the time that was _9RU_fGV9Zu-00674-00185618-00185890 enough to hold all 30,000 troops on the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00675-00185891-00186229 rock today the rock has more underground _9RU_fGV9Zu-00676-00186230-00186843 tunnels than roads _9RU_fGV9Zu-00677-00186844-00187716 topic death of Vladislav Schakowsky 1943 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00678-00187717-00188088 on the 4th of July 1943 a liberator _9RU_fGV9Zu-00679-00188089-00188325 bomber from RAF transport command took _9RU_fGV9Zu-00680-00188326-00188634 off from Gibraltar for England on board _9RU_fGV9Zu-00681-00188635-00188901 was general Vladislav Schakowsky prime _9RU_fGV9Zu-00682-00188902-00189096 minister of poland's london-based _9RU_fGV9Zu-00683-00189097-00189249 government in exile and _9RU_fGV9Zu-00684-00189250-00189431 commander-in-chief of its armed forces _9RU_fGV9Zu-00685-00189432-00189717 returning from visiting polish troops in _9RU_fGV9Zu-00686-00189718-00189906 the middle east the aircraft climbed _9RU_fGV9Zu-00687-00189907-00190122 normally from the runway leveled off to _9RU_fGV9Zu-00688-00190123-00190317 gather speed but then suddenly lost _9RU_fGV9Zu-00689-00190318-00190599 height and crashed into the harbour the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00690-00190600-00190923 62 year old general died along with 15 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00691-00190924-00191238 others the sole survivor was the Czech _9RU_fGV9Zu-00692-00191239-00191526 born pilot Eduard virtua who was rescued _9RU_fGV9Zu-00693-00191527-00191850 by an RAF launch the bodies of five _9RU_fGV9Zu-00694-00191851-00192099 passengers and crew including Shakur _9RU_fGV9Zu-00695-00192100-00192303 skeeze daughter were never found the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00696-00192304-00192516 coffins of general Schakowsky and his _9RU_fGV9Zu-00697-00192517-00192744 chief of staff general kilowatts key _9RU_fGV9Zu-00698-00192745-00192966 were draped in the Polish national flag _9RU_fGV9Zu-00699-00192967-00193200 and lay in state in the Cathedral of st. _9RU_fGV9Zu-00700-00193201-00193563 Mary the crown after a Requiem Mass the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00701-00193564-00193800 bodies were carried in procession to HM _9RU_fGV9Zu-00702-00193801-00194013 Dockyard with full military honours to _9RU_fGV9Zu-00703-00194014-00194205 be shipped to London in anticipation _9RU_fGV9Zu-00704-00194206-00194436 that general Shakur skis remains would _9RU_fGV9Zu-00705-00194437-00194637 one day be returned to a liberated _9RU_fGV9Zu-00706-00194638-00194934 Poland the route to the dockyard was _9RU_fGV9Zu-00707-00194935-00195156 lined by British troops and the coffins _9RU_fGV9Zu-00708-00195157-00195342 carried and escorted by Polish _9RU_fGV9Zu-00709-00195343-00195927 servicemen _9RU_fGV9Zu-00710-00195928-00196501 topic investigation _9RU_fGV9Zu-00711-00196502-00196851 in 1943 a British court of inquiry _9RU_fGV9Zu-00712-00196852-00197086 investigated the crash of Shakur skis _9RU_fGV9Zu-00713-00197087-00197461 liberated two al 523 but was unable to _9RU_fGV9Zu-00714-00197462-00197701 determine the probable cause finding _9RU_fGV9Zu-00715-00197702-00197887 only that it was an accident in the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00716-00197888-00198172 aircraft became uncontrollable for _9RU_fGV9Zu-00717-00198173-00198456 reasons which cannot be established a _9RU_fGV9Zu-00718-00198457-00198703 popular theory was insufficient _9RU_fGV9Zu-00719-00198704-00198922 technical maintenance leading to jamming _9RU_fGV9Zu-00720-00198923-00199089 aircraft controls _9RU_fGV9Zu-00721-00199090-00199363 despite this finding the political _9RU_fGV9Zu-00722-00199364-00199576 context of the event coupled with a _9RU_fGV9Zu-00723-00199577-00199804 variety of curious circumstances _9RU_fGV9Zu-00724-00199805-00200074 immediately gave rise to speculation _9RU_fGV9Zu-00725-00200075-00200272 that Shakur skeeze death had been no _9RU_fGV9Zu-00726-00200273-00200503 accident and may in fact have been the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00727-00200504-00200746 direct result of a Soviet British or _9RU_fGV9Zu-00728-00200747-00201431 even polish conspiracy _9RU_fGV9Zu-00729-00201432-00202007 topic aftermath _9RU_fGV9Zu-00730-00202008-00202343 the surrender of Italy in September 1943 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00731-00202344-00202589 lifted any possible objections to the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00732-00202590-00202889 return of the evacuees to the rack as a _9RU_fGV9Zu-00733-00202890-00203120 result a resettlement board was _9RU_fGV9Zu-00734-00203121-00203315 established in November and that a _9RU_fGV9Zu-00735-00203316-00203486 meeting of the board on the 8th of _9RU_fGV9Zu-00736-00203487-00203831 February 1944 repatriation priorities _9RU_fGV9Zu-00737-00203832-00204178 were finally agreed on the 6th of April _9RU_fGV9Zu-00738-00204179-00204707 1944 the first group of 1367 repatriates _9RU_fGV9Zu-00739-00204708-00204916 arrived on the rock directly from the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00740-00204917-00205169 United Kingdom and on the 28th of May _9RU_fGV9Zu-00741-00205169-00205414 the first repatriation party left _9RU_fGV9Zu-00742-00205415-00205862 Madeira and by the end of 1944 only 520 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00743-00205863-00206092 non-priority of a qyz remained on the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00744-00206094-00206483 island in London home comers were making _9RU_fGV9Zu-00745-00206484-00206665 claims on the evacuees wartime _9RU_fGV9Zu-00746-00206666-00206957 accommodation and 500 Gibraltarians were _9RU_fGV9Zu-00747-00206958-00207241 re-evaluated to Scotland and 3,000 to _9RU_fGV9Zu-00748-00207242-00207530 camps in Northern Ireland although the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00749-00207531-00207592 governor _9RU_fGV9Zu-00750-00207594-00207806 leftenant General Sir Knoll Mason _9RU_fGV9Zu-00751-00207807-00208052 McFarland fought valiantly on behalf of _9RU_fGV9Zu-00752-00208053-00208273 the evacuees and did not accept the lack _9RU_fGV9Zu-00753-00208275-00208487 of accommodation as a sufficient reason _9RU_fGV9Zu-00754-00208488-00208894 for the delays as late as 1947 there _9RU_fGV9Zu-00755-00208896-00209185 were still 2000 in Northern Irish camps _9RU_fGV9Zu-00756-00209186-00209510 the last of the evacuees did not see the _9RU_fGV9Zu-00757-00209511-00210254 rock again until 1951 _9RU_fGV9Zu-00758-00210255-00210994 topic notes _9RU_fGV9Zu-00759-00210994-00211185 you _9RU_fGV9Zu-00760-00211186-00211756 topic see also _9RU_fGV9Zu-00761-00211757-00211969 military history of the British _9RU_fGV9Zu-00762-00211969-00212267 Commonwealth in the Second World War _9RU_fGV9Zu-00763-00212269-00212667 equals equals citations _t_0HiPOG8E-00000-00000068-00000617 roxette's hello and welcome dear viewer _t_0HiPOG8E-00001-00000618-00000877 in a stunning display of backbone and _t_0HiPOG8E-00002-00000878-00001022 corporate decency Blizzard _t_0HiPOG8E-00003-00001023-00001202 Entertainment's stood behind his house _t_0HiPOG8E-00004-00001203-00001441 stone grandmaster contestant a famous _t_0HiPOG8E-00005-00001442-00001670 player by the name of blitz Chung when _t_0HiPOG8E-00006-00001671-00001859 the said contestant sent out a political _t_0HiPOG8E-00007-00001860-00002048 message of support over the Hong Kong _t_0HiPOG8E-00008-00002049-00002330 protests that have been going on over _t_0HiPOG8E-00009-00002331-00002672 the last several months Hey only kidding _t_0HiPOG8E-00010-00002673-00002906 no Blizzard doesn't have an inch of _t_0HiPOG8E-00011-00002907-00003173 backbone and did the most utterly _t_0HiPOG8E-00012-00003174-00003397 disgusting thing you or I would imagine _t_0HiPOG8E-00013-00003398-00003638 after player bliss trunks message the _t_0HiPOG8E-00014-00003639-00003842 corporate giant immediately banned him _t_0HiPOG8E-00015-00003843-00004054 for a year and even penalized a pair of _t_0HiPOG8E-00016-00004055-00004235 commentators who interviewed the _t_0HiPOG8E-00017-00004236-00004475 champion refusing to work with them any _t_0HiPOG8E-00018-00004476-00004906 further despite them wrapping up as soon _t_0HiPOG8E-00019-00004907-00005363 as bliss Chung began talking about the _t_0HiPOG8E-00020-00005364-00005651 Hong Kong protests the company responded _t_0HiPOG8E-00021-00005652-00005849 to the criticism saying in the statement _t_0HiPOG8E-00022-00005850-00006179 that it stands by one's right to express _t_0HiPOG8E-00023-00006180-00006545 individual thoughts in opinions but _t_0HiPOG8E-00024-00006545-00006812 blitz Chen violated a competition rule _t_0HiPOG8E-00025-00006813-00007003 that prohibits players from doing _t_0HiPOG8E-00026-00007004-00007280 anything that would bring them in tip a _t_0HiPOG8E-00027-00007281-00007688 black dislocate or offend the portion or _t_0HiPOG8E-00028-00007689-00008078 group of the public as well as damage _t_0HiPOG8E-00029-00008079-00008513 lizards image I think you are covering _t_0HiPOG8E-00030-00008514-00008759 the last bit yourself what well _t_0HiPOG8E-00031-00008760-00009103 blizzards remarkable isn't it you'd have _t_0HiPOG8E-00032-00009104-00009305 thought that Blizzard meant Chinese _t_0HiPOG8E-00033-00009306-00009581 state interests when the company wrote _t_0HiPOG8E-00034-00009582-00009910 its terms of consent apportionable group _t_0HiPOG8E-00035-00009911-00010109 of the public indeed _t_0HiPOG8E-00036-00010110-00010409 well played blizzard well played why is _t_0HiPOG8E-00037-00010410-00010616 all this happening anyway I hear you ask _t_0HiPOG8E-00038-00010617-00010895 simple Blizzard has racked up billions _t_0HiPOG8E-00039-00010896-00011069 of dollars worth of Avenue from the _t_0HiPOG8E-00040-00011070-00011428 Chinese game market and rather than risk _t_0HiPOG8E-00041-00011429-00011692 causing a dent in their own purse the _t_0HiPOG8E-00042-00011693-00011881 corporate John did the only sensible _t_0HiPOG8E-00043-00011882-00012124 thing it could've done in few bits Chang _t_0HiPOG8E-00044-00012125-00012419 under the bus human rights freedom of _t_0HiPOG8E-00045-00012420-00012721 speech freedom political beliefs what _t_0HiPOG8E-00046-00012722-00013105 those again you have to question whether _t_0HiPOG8E-00047-00013106-00013283 they expected this story would blow up _t_0HiPOG8E-00048-00013284-00013329 the way _t_0HiPOG8E-00049-00013330-00013605 has surely they knew what they were _t_0HiPOG8E-00050-00013606-00013913 doing right you can't possibly be this _t_0HiPOG8E-00051-00013915-00014850 stuffed oh right the public outcry has _t_0HiPOG8E-00052-00014851-00015111 been Swift which all too well because _t_0HiPOG8E-00053-00015112-00015306 what a public way to announce where _t_0HiPOG8E-00054-00015307-00015540 you'll love least and as if anyone _t_0HiPOG8E-00055-00015541-00015822 doubted it over the last yes is the _t_0HiPOG8E-00056-00015822-00016233 almighty dollar of course it is when you _t_0HiPOG8E-00057-00016234-00016434 draw the ire of US politicians and I _t_0HiPOG8E-00058-00016435-00016680 mean one of them is Marco Rubio you know _t_0HiPOG8E-00059-00016681-00016991 you're doing something very very wrong _t_0HiPOG8E-00060-00016992-00017280 Blizzard shows it is willing to _t_0HiPOG8E-00061-00017281-00017484 humiliate itself please of Chinese _t_0HiPOG8E-00062-00017485-00017832 Communist Party Senator Ron Wyden says _t_0HiPOG8E-00063-00017833-00018132 no American company should censor calls _t_0HiPOG8E-00064-00018133-00018534 for freedom to make a quick buck Marco _t_0HiPOG8E-00065-00018535-00018911 Rubio tweeted on Tuesday mean Rob _t_0HiPOG8E-00066-00018912-00019188 recognize what's happening here people _t_0HiPOG8E-00067-00019189-00019346 who don't live in China must either _t_0HiPOG8E-00068-00019347-00019584 self-censor or face dismissal and _t_0HiPOG8E-00069-00019585-00019857 suspensions China using access to _t_0HiPOG8E-00070-00019858-00020085 markets as leverage to crush free speech _t_0HiPOG8E-00071-00020086-00020331 globally implications of this will be _t_0HiPOG8E-00072-00020332-00020553 felt long after everyone in US politics _t_0HiPOG8E-00073-00020554-00021117 today is gone hate to say it sure looks _t_0HiPOG8E-00074-00021118-00021441 like Marco Rubio has a bite oh and if _t_0HiPOG8E-00075-00021442-00021771 there was any doubt about a complete and _t_0HiPOG8E-00076-00021772-00022053 utter festering wound full of pus that _t_0HiPOG8E-00077-00022054-00022236 seems to be a good size of the blizzards _t_0HiPOG8E-00078-00022237-00022521 of today the company is even holding _t_0HiPOG8E-00079-00022522-00022728 onto money won by blitz Chang I don't _t_0HiPOG8E-00080-00022729-00022872 know what's your definition of steering _t_0HiPOG8E-00081-00022873-00023103 is but my includes holding on to a _t_0HiPOG8E-00082-00023104-00023307 monetary sum that has been won fair and _t_0HiPOG8E-00083-00023308-00023469 square by a player of the game you've _t_0HiPOG8E-00084-00023470-00023643 developed a player who's won the _t_0HiPOG8E-00085-00023644-00023916 tournament you've set up no matter his _t_0HiPOG8E-00086-00023917-00024036 political beliefs _t_0HiPOG8E-00087-00024037-00024309 what does Blizzard go forward with this _t_0HiPOG8E-00088-00024310-00024609 box if I know but it's a bet they've _t_0HiPOG8E-00089-00024610-00024777 made for themselves and whether they _t_0HiPOG8E-00090-00024778-00024896 retract wishing's _t_0HiPOG8E-00091-00024897-00025122 suspension or sell on the head with this _t_0HiPOG8E-00092-00025123-00025296 course the price for them in the _t_0HiPOG8E-00093-00025297-00025584 public's eye is steep beyond measure _t_0HiPOG8E-00094-00025585-00025853 either way I'll be on the lookout with _t_0HiPOG8E-00095-00025854-00026145 any future updates for this story so if _t_0HiPOG8E-00096-00026145-00026343 you'd like someone to regurgitate verge _t_0HiPOG8E-00097-00026344-00026493 articles in _t_0HiPOG8E-00098-00026494-00026852 his own opinions on them subscribe like _t_0HiPOG8E-00099-00026854-00027095 this video ring the bell and don't 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_AhLVV-CHP4-00004-00004284-00004997 so _AhLVV-CHP4-00005-00004998-00005327 [Music] _AhLVV-CHP4-00006-00005328-00005599 is an ssr counter type striker unit _AhLVV-CHP4-00007-00005600-00005870 built to deal damage in quick succession _AhLVV-CHP4-00008-00005871-00006111 and provide constant cc in the form of _AhLVV-CHP4-00009-00006112-00006247 her basic attacks _AhLVV-CHP4-00010-00006248-00006463 while improving her own damage and _AhLVV-CHP4-00011-00006464-00006567 attack speed _AhLVV-CHP4-00012-00006568-00006775 the longer she stays in battle with _AhLVV-CHP4-00013-00006776-00006910 three deployment points _AhLVV-CHP4-00014-00006911-00007078 she can be dropped into the thick of _AhLVV-CHP4-00015-00007079-00007327 battle and dish out a lot of damage _AhLVV-CHP4-00016-00007328-00007542 and be the front wall for your team for _AhLVV-CHP4-00017-00007543-00007678 any length of time _AhLVV-CHP4-00018-00007679-00007887 constantly dealing damage to enemies and _AhLVV-CHP4-00019-00007888-00008087 stunning them all the while prepping her _AhLVV-CHP4-00020-00008088-00008278 ultimate and rendering enemies nearly _AhLVV-CHP4-00021-00008279-00008374 immobile _AhLVV-CHP4-00022-00008375-00008551 with her attack speed and limitless _AhLVV-CHP4-00023-00008552-00008687 supply of stuns _AhLVV-CHP4-00024-00008688-00008983 her skills offer a diverse mix of aoe _AhLVV-CHP4-00025-00008984-00009167 defense decreasing attacks _AhLVV-CHP4-00026-00009168-00009383 attack and attack speed increasing buffs _AhLVV-CHP4-00027-00009384-00009599 to herself and endlessly stunning her _AhLVV-CHP4-00028-00009600-00009671 opponents _AhLVV-CHP4-00029-00009672-00009883 and increased tankiness with her _AhLVV-CHP4-00030-00009884-00010023 ultimate _AhLVV-CHP4-00031-00010024-00010255 her passive stuns her current opponent _AhLVV-CHP4-00032-00010256-00010351 for one second _AhLVV-CHP4-00033-00010352-00010614 after every two basic attacks as well as _AhLVV-CHP4-00034-00010615-00010806 decrease their defense by ten percent _AhLVV-CHP4-00035-00010807-00010959 for four seconds _AhLVV-CHP4-00036-00010960-00011174 at max level ultimates and special _AhLVV-CHP4-00037-00011175-00011263 skills also _AhLVV-CHP4-00038-00011264-00011471 count in procking her stun as well as _AhLVV-CHP4-00039-00011472-00011831 increasing the defense lowered by 20 _AhLVV-CHP4-00040-00011832-00012110 her special skill deals aoe damage and _AhLVV-CHP4-00041-00012111-00012351 increases her own attack permanently _AhLVV-CHP4-00042-00012352-00012591 at max level her attack is increased by _AhLVV-CHP4-00043-00012592-00012695 15 _AhLVV-CHP4-00044-00012696-00012919 and seals the target's skill for 5 _AhLVV-CHP4-00045-00012919-00013022 seconds _AhLVV-CHP4-00046-00013023-00013247 her ultimate performs multiple slashes _AhLVV-CHP4-00047-00013247-00013399 of aoe damage _AhLVV-CHP4-00048-00013400-00013663 and increases her attack speed by 30 for _AhLVV-CHP4-00049-00013663-00013822 15 seconds _AhLVV-CHP4-00050-00013823-00014047 at max level she ignores all hit stuns _AhLVV-CHP4-00051-00014047-00014279 from special skills or lower skills for _AhLVV-CHP4-00052-00014280-00014479 15 seconds also _AhLVV-CHP4-00053-00014480-00014686 being the jack of all things melee she _AhLVV-CHP4-00054-00014687-00014838 can carry herself in battle _AhLVV-CHP4-00055-00014840-00015119 better than most striker units she will _AhLVV-CHP4-00056-00015119-00015350 however need help from those pesky enemy _AhLVV-CHP4-00057-00015351-00015455 snipers _AhLVV-CHP4-00058-00015456-00015671 and rangers from withering down her _AhLVV-CHP4-00059-00015672-00015879 health and slowly beat down on her _AhLVV-CHP4-00060-00015880-00016038 submission and although she can take _AhLVV-CHP4-00061-00016040-00016263 hits from her opponents there is only so _AhLVV-CHP4-00062-00016263-00016439 much that her health can take _AhLVV-CHP4-00063-00016440-00016630 so be sure to support her with health _AhLVV-CHP4-00064-00016631-00016871 and barriers as much as possible to keep _AhLVV-CHP4-00065-00016872-00017079 her in the fight as a unit that already _AhLVV-CHP4-00066-00017080-00017343 packs a punch and carries d-box and cc _AhLVV-CHP4-00067-00017344-00017415 of her own _AhLVV-CHP4-00068-00017416-00017575 what she will need are units with _AhLVV-CHP4-00069-00017576-00017719 barriers and heals _AhLVV-CHP4-00070-00017720-00017903 to constantly keep her up in fighting _AhLVV-CHP4-00071-00017904-00018047 throughout your battles _AhLVV-CHP4-00072-00018048-00018239 debuffs and buffs will be more of a _AhLVV-CHP4-00073-00018240-00018367 bonus in her case _AhLVV-CHP4-00074-00018368-00018614 units with both heel and barriers will _AhLVV-CHP4-00075-00018615-00018775 help her greatly in staying _AhLVV-CHP4-00076-00018776-00018999 in combat for most of its duration this _AhLVV-CHP4-00077-00019000-00019183 will ensure that she is kept in peak _AhLVV-CHP4-00078-00019184-00019407 condition without the worry of her dying _AhLVV-CHP4-00079-00019408-00019583 as she will be the bread and butter of _AhLVV-CHP4-00080-00019584-00019686 your assault _AhLVV-CHP4-00081-00019687-00019903 she will also benefit greatly from _AhLVV-CHP4-00082-00019904-00020071 attack speed increasing units _AhLVV-CHP4-00083-00020072-00020279 to keep her at maximum stun output _AhLVV-CHP4-00084-00020280-00020430 damage increasing units _AhLVV-CHP4-00085-00020431-00020607 as well as debuffers will also be _AhLVV-CHP4-00086-00020608-00020791 welcome to the team although they won't _AhLVV-CHP4-00087-00020792-00020983 be as much help to jifuyu _AhLVV-CHP4-00088-00020984-00021207 their buffs and debuffs provide aid to _AhLVV-CHP4-00089-00021208-00021367 every unit in your team _AhLVV-CHP4-00090-00021368-00021519 most teams will have these units in _AhLVV-CHP4-00091-00021520-00021727 their roster whenever you see chifuyu _AhLVV-CHP4-00092-00021728-00021911 in battle so you can count on them to _AhLVV-CHP4-00093-00021912-00022078 always be in pvp as well _AhLVV-CHP4-00094-00022079-00022303 units like jin shia are great rangers _AhLVV-CHP4-00095-00022304-00022527 that can help in both range damage and _AhLVV-CHP4-00096-00022528-00022743 buffing chi fuyu with attack speed buffs _AhLVV-CHP4-00097-00022744-00022919 and increased crit of your team _AhLVV-CHP4-00098-00022920-00023127 cindy looper is a welcome striker unit _AhLVV-CHP4-00099-00023128-00023271 alongside jifuyu _AhLVV-CHP4-00100-00023272-00023463 providing constant stagger and slowly _AhLVV-CHP4-00101-00023464-00023694 pushes your squad further into the enemy _AhLVV-CHP4-00102-00023695-00023839 ship _AhLVV-CHP4-00103-00023840-00024022 her equipment priority should focus on _AhLVV-CHP4-00104-00024023-00024214 getting as much attack speed as possible _AhLVV-CHP4-00105-00024215-00024430 to maximize her stunning output building _AhLVV-CHP4-00106-00024431-00024678 hp or evasion is also okay but this will _AhLVV-CHP4-00107-00024679-00024903 be supplemented by more tankier units _AhLVV-CHP4-00108-00024904-00025063 that you already have taking ground _AhLVV-CHP4-00109-00025064-00025286 damage bonus or anti-striker slash _AhLVV-CHP4-00110-00025287-00025422 defender bonus _AhLVV-CHP4-00111-00025423-00025583 will further her prowess in defeating _AhLVV-CHP4-00112-00025584-00025767 frontline units when paired with her _AhLVV-CHP4-00113-00025768-00025855 constant stun _AhLVV-CHP4-00114-00025856-00026078 and of course attack speed set bonus is _AhLVV-CHP4-00115-00026079-00026279 the way to go with jifuyu her constant _AhLVV-CHP4-00116-00026280-00026318 stun _AhLVV-CHP4-00117-00026319-00026502 is the real star of her kit not her _AhLVV-CHP4-00118-00026504-00026751 damage the new detroit is quite possibly _AhLVV-CHP4-00119-00026752-00026807 the best _AhLVV-CHP4-00120-00026808-00027055 ship to take for chifuyu and for any _AhLVV-CHP4-00121-00027056-00027255 squad with focus on attack speed and _AhLVV-CHP4-00122-00027256-00027455 evasion although a great sacrifice is _AhLVV-CHP4-00123-00027456-00027614 required because you need to construct _AhLVV-CHP4-00124-00027616-00027839 the new ohio first but i reckon it'll be _AhLVV-CHP4-00125-00027839-00028014 worth it as it won't be banned _AhLVV-CHP4-00126-00028016-00028327 and arguably better than the enterprise _AhLVV-CHP4-00127-00028327-00028646 this is my opinion and speaking of the _AhLVV-CHP4-00128-00028647-00028774 new enterprise _AhLVV-CHP4-00129-00028775-00028958 this will be the best ship for any kind _AhLVV-CHP4-00130-00028960-00029174 of content in both normal side and _AhLVV-CHP4-00131-00029175-00029399 counterside lowering enemy evasion and _AhLVV-CHP4-00132-00029400-00029470 defense _AhLVV-CHP4-00133-00029472-00029655 will obviously give chifuyu the upper _AhLVV-CHP4-00134-00029656-00029887 hand kami zumi is a good ship to take _AhLVV-CHP4-00135-00029888-00030087 if you are avoiding banned ships and not _AhLVV-CHP4-00136-00030088-00030279 wanting to get the new detroit providing _AhLVV-CHP4-00137-00030280-00030383 increased damage _AhLVV-CHP4-00138-00030383-00030607 and crit as well as lowering enemy hit _AhLVV-CHP4-00139-00030608-00030855 clip near armor or pod type can be taken _AhLVV-CHP4-00140-00030856-00031055 for more defensive ships depending on _AhLVV-CHP4-00141-00031056-00031095 which _AhLVV-CHP4-00142-00031095-00031374 stat you fancy chifu can fit into any _AhLVV-CHP4-00143-00031375-00031567 team as a frontline unit she can be a _AhLVV-CHP4-00144-00031568-00031783 semi-tank or a full front-line tank with _AhLVV-CHP4-00145-00031783-00031911 the right stats _AhLVV-CHP4-00146-00031912-00032111 if you're building a team around shifuyu _AhLVV-CHP4-00147-00032112-00032374 i suggest a mix of healers and barriers _AhLVV-CHP4-00148-00032375-00032646 rangers slash supports that can stun or _AhLVV-CHP4-00149-00032647-00032823 offer attack speed and attack _AhLVV-CHP4-00150-00032824-00033071 high hp defenders with aoe taunts and _AhLVV-CHP4-00151-00033072-00033151 knockbacks _AhLVV-CHP4-00152-00033152-00033343 as well as strikers that can debuff your _AhLVV-CHP4-00153-00033344-00033487 opponent or push you _AhLVV-CHP4-00154-00033488-00033751 into the enemy base qifuyu is a jack of _AhLVV-CHP4-00155-00033752-00033951 all things melee striker unit _AhLVV-CHP4-00156-00033952-00034167 offering a flutter of benefits without _AhLVV-CHP4-00157-00034168-00034343 compromising her own damage _AhLVV-CHP4-00158-00034344-00034551 holding the front line remarkably so _AhLVV-CHP4-00159-00034552-00034735 while dealing constant high damage _AhLVV-CHP4-00160-00034736-00034935 output and provide crowd control to your _AhLVV-CHP4-00161-00034936-00034990 enemies _AhLVV-CHP4-00162-00034991-00035190 being the backbone of every team when _AhLVV-CHP4-00163-00035191-00035374 properly supported and given the right _AhLVV-CHP4-00164-00035375-00035431 buffs _AhLVV-CHP4-00165-00035432-00035599 she will shine the brightest in every _AhLVV-CHP4-00166-00035600-00035790 battle you may face that's gonna be it _AhLVV-CHP4-00167-00035791-00035823 for _AhLVV-CHP4-00168-00035824-00036095 chifuyu's general guide and overview do _AhLVV-CHP4-00169-00036096-00036295 like and subscribe to my channel as well _AhLVV-CHP4-00170-00036296-00036479 as clicking that bell icon for more _AhLVV-CHP4-00171-00036480-00036695 character overviews in the future _AhLVV-CHP4-00172-00036696-00036918 so what do you guys think of uh chifuyu _AhLVV-CHP4-00173-00036919-00037135 now that she's not banned this week _AhLVV-CHP4-00174-00037136-00037351 guys like are you guys like using her _AhLVV-CHP4-00175-00037352-00037471 again or _AhLVV-CHP4-00176-00037472-00037687 have you found some someone better the _AhLVV-CHP4-00177-00037688-00037918 twins right but i'm not i'm not getting _AhLVV-CHP4-00178-00037919-00038087 that anyway comment down below _AhLVV-CHP4-00179-00038088-00038262 what you guys think of g for you and _AhLVV-CHP4-00180-00038263-00038407 also suggest to me which _AhLVV-CHP4-00181-00038408-00038623 character i should do an overview for _AhLVV-CHP4-00182-00038624-00038735 next alright _AhLVV-CHP4-00183-00038736-00039328 see you guys later bye _B3LH6qREfy-00000-00000328-00001503 [Music] _B3LH6qREfy-00001-00001504-00002361 to see _B3LH6qREfy-00002-00002362-00002962 cleaning up _B3LH6qREfy-00003-00002963-00003187 [Music] _Dg6YOfZQXy-00000-00000552-00000615 okay _Dg6YOfZQXy-00001-00000616-00000919 uh good evening to everybody or well _Dg6YOfZQXy-00002-00000919-00001095 good afternoon to everybody _Dg6YOfZQXy-00003-00001096-00001470 joining us we are not there yet _Dg6YOfZQXy-00004-00001471-00001807 sorry oh okay _Dg6YOfZQXy-00005-00001807-00002030 sorry i wasn't sure if i had to speak _Dg6YOfZQXy-00006-00002032-00002134 already or _Dg6YOfZQXy-00007-00002135-00002455 i don't know can you please just i tell _Dg6YOfZQXy-00008-00002456-00002550 you yeah _Dg6YOfZQXy-00009-00002551-00002966 okay _Dg6YOfZQXy-00010-00002967-00003142 i answered your question thinking that _Dg6YOfZQXy-00012-00009511-00009814 good evening to everybody or well good _Dg6YOfZQXy-00013-00009815-00009903 afternoon to _Dg6YOfZQXy-00014-00009904-00010135 everybody joining us from south or north _Dg6YOfZQXy-00015-00010136-00010271 america _Dg6YOfZQXy-00016-00010272-00010431 my name is christina hinz i would like _Dg6YOfZQXy-00017-00010432-00010599 to welcome everybody to _Dg6YOfZQXy-00018-00010600-00010927 the luxembourg webinar feminist insights _Dg6YOfZQXy-00019-00010928-00011119 resilience and resistance in times of _Dg6YOfZQXy-00020-00011120-00011231 covet 19 _Dg6YOfZQXy-00021-00011232-00011446 featuring our amazing speakers angeli _Dg6YOfZQXy-00022-00011447-00011591 franco from brazil _Dg6YOfZQXy-00023-00011592-00011806 christina carter from jordan and rajica _Dg6YOfZQXy-00024-00011807-00011895 menon from _Dg6YOfZQXy-00025-00011896-00012278 india well why talk about _Dg6YOfZQXy-00026-00012279-00012646 covet 19 from a feminist perspective _Dg6YOfZQXy-00027-00012647-00012943 and yeah why why should we share _Dg6YOfZQXy-00028-00012944-00013071 knowledge gained by human rights _Dg6YOfZQXy-00029-00013072-00013271 defenders and feminist activists _Dg6YOfZQXy-00030-00013272-00013591 during this healthcare crisis well i _Dg6YOfZQXy-00031-00013591-00013735 think the more appropriate question _Dg6YOfZQXy-00032-00013736-00013838 would be _Dg6YOfZQXy-00033-00013840-00014094 how can someone want to do it and why _Dg6YOfZQXy-00034-00014095-00014271 didn't we have this conversation so much _Dg6YOfZQXy-00035-00014272-00014486 earlier _Dg6YOfZQXy-00036-00014487-00014703 until the date the pandemic has claimed _Dg6YOfZQXy-00037-00014704-00014807 more than 7 _Dg6YOfZQXy-00038-00014808-00015086 70 million infections and over 1.5 _Dg6YOfZQXy-00039-00015087-00015207 million deaths _Dg6YOfZQXy-00040-00015208-00015463 noting that the winter has just started _Dg6YOfZQXy-00041-00015463-00015638 here in the north _Dg6YOfZQXy-00042-00015640-00015838 women have been at the forefront of the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00043-00015840-00016007 so-called combat _Dg6YOfZQXy-00044-00016008-00016215 against the pandemic and its related _Dg6YOfZQXy-00045-00016216-00016335 adversities _Dg6YOfZQXy-00046-00016336-00016558 and still our contributions have not _Dg6YOfZQXy-00047-00016559-00016750 been much appreciated _Dg6YOfZQXy-00048-00016751-00017055 as usual i would say _Dg6YOfZQXy-00049-00017056-00017271 the list of these related adversities of _Dg6YOfZQXy-00050-00017272-00017383 covert 19 _Dg6YOfZQXy-00051-00017384-00017727 is a long one poverty police violence _Dg6YOfZQXy-00052-00017728-00017991 domestic violence disownment and cutback _Dg6YOfZQXy-00053-00017992-00018127 of workers rights _Dg6YOfZQXy-00054-00018128-00018399 and yes also the international attack on _Dg6YOfZQXy-00055-00018400-00018607 our reproductive rights _Dg6YOfZQXy-00056-00018608-00019014 just to name a couple of examples _Dg6YOfZQXy-00057-00019015-00019175 in order to learn more about these _Dg6YOfZQXy-00058-00019176-00019383 gendered effects of covert 19 and _Dg6YOfZQXy-00059-00019384-00019527 together intersectional _Dg6YOfZQXy-00060-00019528-00019814 feminist responses to this pandemic rosa _Dg6YOfZQXy-00061-00019815-00020022 luxembourg's global feminism program has _Dg6YOfZQXy-00062-00020023-00020263 launched an august web dossier entitled _Dg6YOfZQXy-00063-00020264-00020439 feminist insights resilience and _Dg6YOfZQXy-00064-00020440-00020686 resistance in times of cognitive _Dg6YOfZQXy-00065-00020687-00020935 which isadora zuback and myself had the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00066-00020936-00021150 honor to edit _Dg6YOfZQXy-00067-00021151-00021358 this collection brings together a series _Dg6YOfZQXy-00068-00021359-00021567 of original articles written by female _Dg6YOfZQXy-00069-00021568-00021663 activists _Dg6YOfZQXy-00070-00021664-00021871 unionists human rights defenders and _Dg6YOfZQXy-00071-00021872-00022063 journalists based in active in countries _Dg6YOfZQXy-00072-00022064-00022222 of the global cells _Dg6YOfZQXy-00073-00022223-00022494 and well we'll post the link to this _Dg6YOfZQXy-00074-00022495-00022630 year in the comment section _Dg6YOfZQXy-00075-00022631-00022822 on either youtube or facebook whatever _Dg6YOfZQXy-00076-00022823-00022950 you're watching so _Dg6YOfZQXy-00077-00022951-00023094 please make sure to check it out because _Dg6YOfZQXy-00078-00023095-00023278 there's some really really brilliant _Dg6YOfZQXy-00079-00023279-00023358 articles _Dg6YOfZQXy-00080-00023359-00023703 in the in this society um so after _Dg6YOfZQXy-00081-00023704-00023871 having launched this collection _Dg6YOfZQXy-00082-00023872-00024030 of course we wanted to continue this _Dg6YOfZQXy-00083-00024031-00024230 discussion about the gender effects of _Dg6YOfZQXy-00084-00024231-00024367 covert 19 _Dg6YOfZQXy-00085-00024368-00024494 but we also wanted to take the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00086-00024495-00024686 opportunity um _Dg6YOfZQXy-00087-00024687-00024847 considering that we're already some _Dg6YOfZQXy-00088-00024848-00025055 month in in this pandemic and that the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00089-00025056-00025119 need _Dg6YOfZQXy-00090-00025120-00025350 the year is ending and we wanted to look _Dg6YOfZQXy-00091-00025351-00025575 back on the last month and ask ourselves _Dg6YOfZQXy-00092-00025576-00025887 actually what did we learn so far what _Dg6YOfZQXy-00093-00025888-00026039 were our main lessons _Dg6YOfZQXy-00094-00026039-00026311 and what did it work in our activism and _Dg6YOfZQXy-00095-00026312-00026479 what did not work _Dg6YOfZQXy-00096-00026480-00026687 and also of course using the opportunity _Dg6YOfZQXy-00097-00026688-00026807 that we have these amazing _Dg6YOfZQXy-00098-00026808-00026999 guests here with us tonight what could _Dg6YOfZQXy-00099-00027000-00027214 feminists activists and organizations in _Dg6YOfZQXy-00100-00027216-00027335 other countries _Dg6YOfZQXy-00101-00027336-00027558 such as germany for instance learn from _Dg6YOfZQXy-00102-00027560-00027735 these feminist mobilizations _Dg6YOfZQXy-00103-00027736-00027927 and experiences in countries of the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00104-00027927-00028046 global south _Dg6YOfZQXy-00105-00028047-00028239 and what piece of advice could actually _Dg6YOfZQXy-00106-00028239-00028470 be given to fellow feminist activists _Dg6YOfZQXy-00107-00028472-00028799 across the world and i think the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00108-00028800-00028879 intuition _Dg6YOfZQXy-00109-00028880-00029079 for asking this question is actually _Dg6YOfZQXy-00110-00029080-00029270 quite forward because _Dg6YOfZQXy-00111-00029272-00029414 if the last minutes have taught us _Dg6YOfZQXy-00112-00029416-00029631 anything that then it is taken _Dg6YOfZQXy-00113-00029632-00029870 for granted policy approaches they did _Dg6YOfZQXy-00114-00029872-00029983 not work too well _Dg6YOfZQXy-00115-00029983-00030327 in 2020 and they also probably are not _Dg6YOfZQXy-00116-00030327-00030423 going _Dg6YOfZQXy-00117-00030424-00030607 to work so well for the problems we're _Dg6YOfZQXy-00118-00030608-00030846 going to face in 2021 _Dg6YOfZQXy-00119-00030847-00030999 and we might need to think a little bit _Dg6YOfZQXy-00120-00031000-00031158 outside of our box _Dg6YOfZQXy-00121-00031160-00031383 and make as much usage as we can of this _Dg6YOfZQXy-00122-00031383-00031470 knowledge _Dg6YOfZQXy-00123-00031472-00031751 gained by these women who day-to-day _Dg6YOfZQXy-00124-00031752-00031951 stand at the front lines and protect the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00125-00031952-00032055 communities _Dg6YOfZQXy-00126-00032056-00032255 not only against the worst consequences _Dg6YOfZQXy-00127-00032256-00032462 of covet but also against everything _Dg6YOfZQXy-00128-00032463-00032639 else that has been gone wrong _Dg6YOfZQXy-00129-00032639-00033023 long before that so in order to tackle _Dg6YOfZQXy-00130-00033024-00033239 these questions and to discuss this here _Dg6YOfZQXy-00131-00033240-00033423 with our amazing guests _Dg6YOfZQXy-00132-00033424-00033607 we are going to conduct this webinar in _Dg6YOfZQXy-00133-00033608-00033831 like some q a style _Dg6YOfZQXy-00134-00033832-00033990 and we're also going to have some space _Dg6YOfZQXy-00135-00033991-00034287 for your questions at the end so _Dg6YOfZQXy-00136-00034288-00034431 please post your questions in the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00137-00034432-00034623 comment sections of either facebook or _Dg6YOfZQXy-00138-00034624-00034735 youtube _Dg6YOfZQXy-00139-00034736-00034902 and you have if you happen to be not to _Dg6YOfZQXy-00140-00034903-00035055 be a member of any of those _Dg6YOfZQXy-00141-00035056-00035302 uh and you want to ask the question so _Dg6YOfZQXy-00142-00035303-00035359 there is _Dg6YOfZQXy-00143-00035360-00035567 also someone a link would 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_Dg6YOfZQXy-00159-00038719-00039055 with more detail uh as they come in _Dg6YOfZQXy-00160-00039056-00039190 let's say _Dg6YOfZQXy-00161-00039191-00039351 so the first question we want to discuss _Dg6YOfZQXy-00162-00039352-00039535 here uh in your area _Dg6YOfZQXy-00163-00039536-00039759 of activity what were the main _Dg6YOfZQXy-00164-00039760-00040039 challenges during the covert 19 pandemic _Dg6YOfZQXy-00165-00040040-00040318 how did authorities in your country uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-00166-00040319-00040399 respond _Dg6YOfZQXy-00167-00040400-00040615 what were the main policy measures taken _Dg6YOfZQXy-00168-00040616-00040839 and how these measures these official _Dg6YOfZQXy-00169-00040840-00041062 measures actually aggravate pre-existing _Dg6YOfZQXy-00170-00041063-00041167 problems _Dg6YOfZQXy-00171-00041168-00041487 or create new ones and i think we can _Dg6YOfZQXy-00172-00041488-00041583 maybe start with _Dg6YOfZQXy-00173-00041584-00042135 angeli angeli franco _Dg6YOfZQXy-00174-00042136-00042374 anili um grew up in the marea favela in _Dg6YOfZQXy-00175-00042375-00042495 hilgenero _Dg6YOfZQXy-00176-00042496-00042702 she holds a bachelor's degree in _Dg6YOfZQXy-00177-00042703-00042830 journalism _Dg6YOfZQXy-00178-00042831-00043023 in english from the central university _Dg6YOfZQXy-00179-00043024-00043246 of north carolina and another bachelor _Dg6YOfZQXy-00180-00043247-00043430 degree in english literature _Dg6YOfZQXy-00181-00043431-00043711 by the state university of eugene edible _Dg6YOfZQXy-00182-00043712-00043846 she holds a master's degree in _Dg6YOfZQXy-00183-00043847-00043967 journalism in english _Dg6YOfZQXy-00184-00043968-00044302 by the university of florida a a a _Dg6YOfZQXy-00185-00044303-00044495 m and is currently pursuing another _Dg6YOfZQXy-00186-00044496-00044711 master's degree at the fed university in _Dg6YOfZQXy-00187-00044712-00044967 general studying ethnic racial relations _Dg6YOfZQXy-00188-00044968-00045143 with a focus on the identity of black _Dg6YOfZQXy-00189-00045144-00045207 women _Dg6YOfZQXy-00190-00045208-00045367 through the memory and legacy of _Dg6YOfZQXy-00191-00045368-00045551 marielle franco her sister _Dg6YOfZQXy-00192-00045552-00045830 and daily inspiration recently she _Dg6YOfZQXy-00193-00045831-00045983 published her book called letters to _Dg6YOfZQXy-00194-00045984-00046055 marielli _Dg6YOfZQXy-00195-00046056-00046279 and has important participation in many _Dg6YOfZQXy-00196-00046280-00046358 other books _Dg6YOfZQXy-00197-00046359-00046574 including the autobiography of angela _Dg6YOfZQXy-00198-00046575-00046671 davis _Dg6YOfZQXy-00199-00046672-00046846 today she works as a teacher a public _Dg6YOfZQXy-00200-00046847-00047055 speaker writer and as a current director _Dg6YOfZQXy-00201-00047056-00047255 of the marielle franco institute _Dg6YOfZQXy-00202-00047256-00047511 curator and presenter of the papa franco _Dg6YOfZQXy-00203-00047512-00047558 channel _Dg6YOfZQXy-00204-00047559-00047855 and also of the school of marielis and _Dg6YOfZQXy-00205-00047856-00048046 she's also a guest columnist of the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00206-00048047-00048223 medical brazil _Dg6YOfZQXy-00207-00048224-00048462 magazine we are so happy to have you _Dg6YOfZQXy-00208-00048463-00048527 here _Dg6YOfZQXy-00209-00048528-00048839 angeli uh i think after the long _Dg6YOfZQXy-00210-00048840-00049015 introduction maybe the audience might _Dg6YOfZQXy-00211-00049016-00049207 have lost track of the question so i'm _Dg6YOfZQXy-00212-00049208-00049390 gonna ask it again _Dg6YOfZQXy-00213-00049391-00049615 uh in your area of activity what were _Dg6YOfZQXy-00214-00049616-00049727 the main challenges _Dg6YOfZQXy-00215-00049728-00050039 during covert 19 so far for for women _Dg6YOfZQXy-00216-00050040-00050343 and how did authorities respond _Dg6YOfZQXy-00217-00050344-00050558 in which kind of measures actually made _Dg6YOfZQXy-00218-00050559-00050711 sense and which kind of measures _Dg6YOfZQXy-00219-00050712-00050886 actually made things worse _Dg6YOfZQXy-00220-00050887-00051246 what's your perspective on this annually _Dg6YOfZQXy-00221-00051247-00051599 yeah first of all good afternoon _Dg6YOfZQXy-00222-00051600-00051775 everyone thanks for being here thanks _Dg6YOfZQXy-00223-00051776-00051926 for the invitation _Dg6YOfZQXy-00224-00051927-00052287 and it's a pleasure to be sharing this _Dg6YOfZQXy-00225-00052288-00052607 table table with such a _Dg6YOfZQXy-00226-00052608-00052959 three important women well in brazil _Dg6YOfZQXy-00227-00052960-00053271 we had many challenges i mean actually _Dg6YOfZQXy-00228-00053272-00053591 we still having because unfortunately _Dg6YOfZQXy-00229-00053591-00053911 our president the authorities are now _Dg6YOfZQXy-00230-00053912-00054175 just starting to thinking about what _Dg6YOfZQXy-00231-00054176-00054423 actions they're gonna take _Dg6YOfZQXy-00232-00054424-00054823 uh towards cov819 _Dg6YOfZQXy-00233-00054824-00055030 but something that i would like to to _Dg6YOfZQXy-00234-00055032-00055126 highlight _Dg6YOfZQXy-00235-00055127-00055415 my first answer would be that here the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00236-00055416-00055526 majority of the black _Dg6YOfZQXy-00237-00055527-00055830 women they work either _Dg6YOfZQXy-00238-00055832-00056215 at home or in other people's house _Dg6YOfZQXy-00239-00056216-00056479 so they had to leave their house to go _Dg6YOfZQXy-00240-00056479-00056566 to work _Dg6YOfZQXy-00241-00056567-00056847 so the first death that we had in brazil _Dg6YOfZQXy-00242-00056848-00057015 the really first one _Dg6YOfZQXy-00243-00057016-00057382 was from a black woman who was a house _Dg6YOfZQXy-00244-00057383-00057423 made _Dg6YOfZQXy-00245-00057424-00057735 in the house of a very rich person _Dg6YOfZQXy-00246-00057736-00058023 and these people said they would not let _Dg6YOfZQXy-00247-00058024-00058135 her be at home _Dg6YOfZQXy-00248-00058136-00058438 because of the pending _Dg6YOfZQXy-00249-00058439-00058679 our first challenge is that first of all _Dg6YOfZQXy-00250-00058679-00058775 we don't have _Dg6YOfZQXy-00251-00058776-00059047 a leader you know in government right _Dg6YOfZQXy-00252-00059048-00059087 now _Dg6YOfZQXy-00253-00059088-00059391 we don't have no one to look and say hey _Dg6YOfZQXy-00254-00059391-00059679 let's stood up here because these poor _Dg6YOfZQXy-00255-00059679-00059799 women or people _Dg6YOfZQXy-00256-00059800-00060111 whatever they need to know and _Dg6YOfZQXy-00257-00060112-00060294 the one that was in my opinion one of _Dg6YOfZQXy-00258-00060295-00060503 the biggest one was that _Dg6YOfZQXy-00259-00060504-00060766 right in the beginning like march when _Dg6YOfZQXy-00260-00060767-00060919 uh covet 19 _Dg6YOfZQXy-00261-00060920-00061223 arrived here we didn't have _Dg6YOfZQXy-00262-00061224-00061542 water in most of the places _Dg6YOfZQXy-00263-00061544-00061782 so you had many women who were trying to _Dg6YOfZQXy-00264-00061783-00061863 survive with _Dg6YOfZQXy-00265-00061864-00062182 their kids with the basic _Dg6YOfZQXy-00266-00062183-00062494 things they didn't have so no water no _Dg6YOfZQXy-00267-00062495-00062879 soap no you know like no _Dg6YOfZQXy-00268-00062879-00063047 alcohol to clean their hands like _Dg6YOfZQXy-00269-00063048-00063206 nothing and _Dg6YOfZQXy-00270-00063207-00063566 we had to put up with some stuff like _Dg6YOfZQXy-00271-00063567-00063894 many people dying from the slums because _Dg6YOfZQXy-00272-00063895-00064006 of that _Dg6YOfZQXy-00273-00064007-00064206 and at the same time we don't know what _Dg6YOfZQXy-00274-00064207-00064319 to do so _Dg6YOfZQXy-00275-00064320-00064606 governments start with the emergency _Dg6YOfZQXy-00276-00064607-00064687 america _Dg6YOfZQXy-00277-00064688-00065094 on auxiliary auxiliary in _Dg6YOfZQXy-00278-00065095-00065423 april or june _Dg6YOfZQXy-00279-00065424-00065775 if i'm not mistaken but _Dg6YOfZQXy-00280-00065776-00065975 up to them they didn't have any money _Dg6YOfZQXy-00281-00065976-00066126 they didn't have no food they didn't _Dg6YOfZQXy-00282-00066127-00066279 have how to get to work _Dg6YOfZQXy-00283-00066280-00066550 they didn't have anything so we kind of _Dg6YOfZQXy-00284-00066551-00066759 start looking up for these women _Dg6YOfZQXy-00285-00066760-00067071 and we create some some ways of helping _Dg6YOfZQXy-00286-00067072-00067150 them _Dg6YOfZQXy-00287-00067151-00067415 with other organizations here in ryu _Dg6YOfZQXy-00288-00067416-00067663 especially in ryu _Dg6YOfZQXy-00289-00067664-00067999 to go around and give food and give them _Dg6YOfZQXy-00290-00068000-00068247 especially some water and help these _Dg6YOfZQXy-00291-00068248-00068471 women especially with their kids _Dg6YOfZQXy-00292-00068472-00068782 so basically the main challenges and the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00293-00068783-00068991 big challenges were these _Dg6YOfZQXy-00294-00068992-00069255 and only three four months after that _Dg6YOfZQXy-00295-00069256-00069431 authorities started giving some money to _Dg6YOfZQXy-00296-00069432-00069615 help those people _Dg6YOfZQXy-00297-00069616-00069982 i would that would be my first answer _Dg6YOfZQXy-00298-00069983-00070391 yeah well thanks angeli uh i think uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-00299-00070392-00070606 well most people have read a little bit _Dg6YOfZQXy-00300-00070607-00070815 about the situation in _Dg6YOfZQXy-00301-00070816-00071159 brazil and uh yeah it's _Dg6YOfZQXy-00302-00071160-00071462 really sounds rough um i think maybe we _Dg6YOfZQXy-00303-00071463-00071511 can _Dg6YOfZQXy-00304-00071512-00071806 continue with uh christina to give up _Dg6YOfZQXy-00305-00071807-00071919 some perspective _Dg6YOfZQXy-00306-00071920-00072247 about um what happened so far in jordan _Dg6YOfZQXy-00307-00072248-00072431 and during the pandemic _Dg6YOfZQXy-00308-00072432-00072782 um well christina carter is an educator _Dg6YOfZQXy-00309-00072783-00072999 a translator and a feminist activist _Dg6YOfZQXy-00310-00073000-00073191 currently based in amman _Dg6YOfZQXy-00311-00073192-00073394 where she's writing feminist podcasts _Dg6YOfZQXy-00312-00073395-00073647 co-facilitating a feminist reading club _Dg6YOfZQXy-00313-00073648-00073855 and contributing to the work of feminist _Dg6YOfZQXy-00314-00073856-00074023 groups in jordan _Dg6YOfZQXy-00315-00074024-00074406 so christina in your area of activity _Dg6YOfZQXy-00316-00074407-00074567 what were the main challenges during _Dg6YOfZQXy-00317-00074568-00074726 covert 19 and _Dg6YOfZQXy-00318-00074727-00074959 what how would you evaluate the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00319-00074960-00075223 government responses _Dg6YOfZQXy-00320-00075224-00075438 good evening everyone and thank you so _Dg6YOfZQXy-00321-00075439-00075631 much for organizing this very important _Dg6YOfZQXy-00322-00075632-00075719 conversation _Dg6YOfZQXy-00323-00075720-00076031 i do agree that there will never be _Dg6YOfZQXy-00324-00076032-00076303 enough of documentation and discussion _Dg6YOfZQXy-00325-00076304-00076615 as long as the problems are aggravating _Dg6YOfZQXy-00326-00076616-00076791 instead of being solved _Dg6YOfZQXy-00327-00076792-00076959 as you mentioned in the introduction _Dg6YOfZQXy-00328-00076960-00077182 christina so in order to understand a _Dg6YOfZQXy-00329-00077183-00077359 little bit the situation of jordan and _Dg6YOfZQXy-00330-00077360-00077535 the consequences of covet and the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00331-00077536-00077599 lockdown _Dg6YOfZQXy-00332-00077600-00077847 uh here i would like to give a little _Dg6YOfZQXy-00333-00077848-00078111 bit of context about the women rights _Dg6YOfZQXy-00334-00078112-00078382 situation even before the lockdown or _Dg6YOfZQXy-00335-00078383-00078759 before covet _Dg6YOfZQXy-00336-00078760-00079119 women have been discriminated against _Dg6YOfZQXy-00337-00079120-00079423 for a very long time now despite all the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00338-00079424-00079743 efforts constant of activists and women _Dg6YOfZQXy-00339-00079744-00079887 rights organizations _Dg6YOfZQXy-00340-00079888-00080182 they've been pushed out of public spaces _Dg6YOfZQXy-00341-00080183-00080462 be it laws and regulations and policies _Dg6YOfZQXy-00342-00080463-00080647 or be it the labor market where there's _Dg6YOfZQXy-00343-00080648-00080879 only 14 of women which is a very low _Dg6YOfZQXy-00344-00080880-00081038 participation rate _Dg6YOfZQXy-00345-00081039-00081287 um although there are many women who do _Dg6YOfZQXy-00346-00081288-00081535 actually graduate universities _Dg6YOfZQXy-00347-00081536-00081719 the majority of people who graduate _Dg6YOfZQXy-00348-00081720-00081855 universities are women _Dg6YOfZQXy-00349-00081856-00082015 but then they never make it to the labor _Dg6YOfZQXy-00350-00082016-00082167 market um _Dg6YOfZQXy-00351-00082168-00082367 so that's on one side and then even in _Dg6YOfZQXy-00352-00082368-00082591 the domestic sphere or the private _Dg6YOfZQXy-00353-00082592-00082679 sphere _Dg6YOfZQXy-00354-00082680-00083055 um their rights um be _Dg6YOfZQXy-00355-00083056-00083271 they were never safeguarded neither by _Dg6YOfZQXy-00356-00083272-00083438 um by _Dg6YOfZQXy-00357-00083439-00083591 their culture and tradition and the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00358-00083592-00083743 mentality of of _Dg6YOfZQXy-00359-00083744-00084055 of the people nor by the laws _Dg6YOfZQXy-00360-00084056-00084391 and what kava did is basically it just _Dg6YOfZQXy-00361-00084392-00084671 um like all those issues they they've _Dg6YOfZQXy-00362-00084672-00084726 been there _Dg6YOfZQXy-00363-00084727-00085111 um like um hot water under the ground _Dg6YOfZQXy-00364-00085112-00085206 and what kava did _Dg6YOfZQXy-00365-00085207-00085535 it it just made it explode in our faces _Dg6YOfZQXy-00366-00085536-00085791 just to show us one more time that these _Dg6YOfZQXy-00367-00085792-00085862 problems _Dg6YOfZQXy-00368-00085863-00086079 and their solution the solutions to _Dg6YOfZQXy-00369-00086080-00086206 these problems are long _Dg6YOfZQXy-00370-00086207-00086582 long long overdue um _Dg6YOfZQXy-00371-00086583-00086855 and why i'm emphasizing law because _Dg6YOfZQXy-00372-00086856-00087031 andrew danielian constitution _Dg6YOfZQXy-00373-00087032-00087303 um it says that all jordanians are equal _Dg6YOfZQXy-00374-00087304-00087359 um _Dg6YOfZQXy-00375-00087360-00087703 in the eyes of the law um regardless of _Dg6YOfZQXy-00376-00087704-00087831 their language race _Dg6YOfZQXy-00377-00087832-00088087 or religion but sex is not one of those _Dg6YOfZQXy-00378-00088088-00088150 things _Dg6YOfZQXy-00379-00088151-00088326 and there is a lot a lot of discussions _Dg6YOfZQXy-00380-00088327-00088494 that have been happening about the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00381-00088495-00088847 um importance of this term um _Dg6YOfZQXy-00382-00088848-00089199 and the constitution um _Dg6YOfZQXy-00383-00089200-00089399 because some say that it's implicit but _Dg6YOfZQXy-00384-00089400-00089511 unfortunately it's not _Dg6YOfZQXy-00385-00089512-00089718 implicit and one of the very good proofs _Dg6YOfZQXy-00386-00089719-00089887 to the fact that it's not implicit is _Dg6YOfZQXy-00387-00089888-00090103 that women until the age of 30 until now _Dg6YOfZQXy-00388-00090104-00090287 in jordan they have to have a guardian _Dg6YOfZQXy-00389-00090288-00090311 be _Dg6YOfZQXy-00390-00090312-00090559 the father it's a male figure so it's _Dg6YOfZQXy-00391-00090560-00090735 either the father the brother or the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00392-00090736-00090806 husband _Dg6YOfZQXy-00393-00090807-00090999 and when i say guardian it does not _Dg6YOfZQXy-00394-00091000-00091191 necessarily mean that they do need to _Dg6YOfZQXy-00395-00091192-00091294 get _Dg6YOfZQXy-00396-00091295-00091471 written consent let's say to get a _Dg6YOfZQXy-00397-00091472-00091655 specific job or to study in a specific _Dg6YOfZQXy-00398-00091656-00091750 university _Dg6YOfZQXy-00399-00091751-00092182 but they do need verbal consent and _Dg6YOfZQXy-00400-00092183-00092550 in case the guardian does not like what _Dg6YOfZQXy-00401-00092551-00092615 the woman _Dg6YOfZQXy-00402-00092616-00092926 um is doing they have the right to um _Dg6YOfZQXy-00403-00092927-00093103 file a complaint against her and that _Dg6YOfZQXy-00404-00093104-00093287 has been happening in the country _Dg6YOfZQXy-00405-00093288-00093591 so that's a little bit of a context um _Dg6YOfZQXy-00406-00093592-00093750 and in jordan specifically in terms of _Dg6YOfZQXy-00407-00093751-00093950 covert 19 the country went into total _Dg6YOfZQXy-00408-00093951-00094182 lockdown on the 21st of march _Dg6YOfZQXy-00409-00094183-00094471 and that total lockdown meant that all _Dg6YOfZQXy-00410-00094472-00094859 trade and all activity was suspended _Dg6YOfZQXy-00411-00094860-00094991 [Applause] _Dg6YOfZQXy-00412-00094992-00095318 for about 10 days _Dg6YOfZQXy-00413-00095319-00095591 and that included not no one was allowed _Dg6YOfZQXy-00414-00095592-00095750 to leave the house unless there were _Dg6YOfZQXy-00415-00095751-00095847 essential staff _Dg6YOfZQXy-00416-00095848-00096023 and in hospitals and in some _Dg6YOfZQXy-00417-00096024-00096223 governmental institutions _Dg6YOfZQXy-00418-00096224-00096399 everything was moved online schools were _Dg6YOfZQXy-00419-00096400-00096631 shot you couldn't even go to the grocery _Dg6YOfZQXy-00420-00096632-00096806 store for some time or _Dg6YOfZQXy-00421-00096807-00096943 the only thing you're allowed to do is _Dg6YOfZQXy-00422-00096944-00097143 to go and throw out your trash but with _Dg6YOfZQXy-00423-00097144-00097471 very strict measures as well um _Dg6YOfZQXy-00424-00097472-00097726 and that uh strict lockdown it eased up _Dg6YOfZQXy-00425-00097727-00097838 a little bit but _Dg6YOfZQXy-00426-00097839-00098094 um it and when i say eased up it meant _Dg6YOfZQXy-00427-00098095-00098182 that we could _Dg6YOfZQXy-00428-00098183-00098438 until almost may were not allowed to _Dg6YOfZQXy-00429-00098439-00098615 leave houses public transportation was _Dg6YOfZQXy-00430-00098616-00098718 not running _Dg6YOfZQXy-00431-00098719-00099006 um everything was still online including _Dg6YOfZQXy-00432-00099007-00099231 schools and work and all that stuff _Dg6YOfZQXy-00433-00099232-00099423 but you were allowed to go on foot let's _Dg6YOfZQXy-00434-00099424-00099599 say to get grocery shopping or stuff _Dg6YOfZQXy-00435-00099600-00099926 like that in your area in summer the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00436-00099927-00100167 measures eased up even more more sectors _Dg6YOfZQXy-00437-00100168-00100335 were opened _Dg6YOfZQXy-00438-00100336-00100518 until the second wave hit again where _Dg6YOfZQXy-00439-00100519-00100671 schools were exclu _Dg6YOfZQXy-00440-00100672-00100879 schools nursery kindergartens were _Dg6YOfZQXy-00441-00100880-00100999 closed again and i'm going to get _Dg6YOfZQXy-00442-00101000-00101150 back to the issue of nurseries a little _Dg6YOfZQXy-00443-00101151-00101335 bit later because there was some very _Dg6YOfZQXy-00444-00101336-00101494 important feminist work that was done _Dg6YOfZQXy-00445-00101495-00101815 and on that in that aspect and obviously _Dg6YOfZQXy-00446-00101816-00101991 the consequences were many it's very _Dg6YOfZQXy-00447-00101992-00102159 hard to i was saying before we started _Dg6YOfZQXy-00448-00102160-00102303 that it's very it was very hard for me _Dg6YOfZQXy-00449-00102304-00102406 to pick _Dg6YOfZQXy-00450-00102407-00102863 because um the more you are vulnerable _Dg6YOfZQXy-00451-00102864-00103063 um or the people who are the most _Dg6YOfZQXy-00452-00103064-00103263 vulnerable basically were hit the most _Dg6YOfZQXy-00453-00103264-00103471 so i'm talking about economic crisis i'm _Dg6YOfZQXy-00454-00103472-00103623 talking about mental health crisis i'm _Dg6YOfZQXy-00455-00103624-00103734 talking about _Dg6YOfZQXy-00456-00103735-00104230 um family crisis family disputes _Dg6YOfZQXy-00457-00104231-00104534 um and all that resulted in _Dg6YOfZQXy-00458-00104535-00104758 basically a lot of women either _Dg6YOfZQXy-00459-00104759-00104886 withdrawing from _Dg6YOfZQXy-00460-00104888-00105047 the labor market because they need they _Dg6YOfZQXy-00461-00105048-00105223 have increased house chores so they need _Dg6YOfZQXy-00462-00105224-00105366 to take care of the online learning of _Dg6YOfZQXy-00463-00105367-00105454 their kids _Dg6YOfZQXy-00464-00105455-00105678 of the increased house chores maybe _Dg6YOfZQXy-00465-00105679-00105878 taking care of an elderly family member _Dg6YOfZQXy-00466-00105879-00106134 etc more than usual because everyone's _Dg6YOfZQXy-00467-00106135-00106183 at home _Dg6YOfZQXy-00468-00106183-00106431 all the time um so that's a lot of _Dg6YOfZQXy-00469-00106432-00106623 mental physical and emotional labor _Dg6YOfZQXy-00470-00106624-00106943 obviously um so they either withdraw _Dg6YOfZQXy-00471-00106944-00107095 from the labor market because they're _Dg6YOfZQXy-00472-00107096-00107199 the primary _Dg6YOfZQXy-00473-00107200-00107519 caretaker and the eyes of society and _Dg6YOfZQXy-00474-00107520-00107823 and or they _Dg6YOfZQXy-00475-00107824-00108095 they had to have to deal with a lot of _Dg6YOfZQXy-00476-00108096-00108263 mental health crises because they were _Dg6YOfZQXy-00477-00108264-00108390 trying to handle both _Dg6YOfZQXy-00478-00108391-00108671 online uh working online and doing all _Dg6YOfZQXy-00479-00108672-00108775 those stories _Dg6YOfZQXy-00480-00108776-00109007 the informal sector was hit very hard so _Dg6YOfZQXy-00481-00109008-00109175 we are talking um _Dg6YOfZQXy-00482-00109176-00109334 it's a little bit similar to what you _Dg6YOfZQXy-00483-00109335-00109519 and yellow were describing when you were _Dg6YOfZQXy-00484-00109520-00109607 saying _Dg6YOfZQXy-00485-00109608-00109854 um about domestic workers so people _Dg6YOfZQXy-00486-00109855-00110047 informally actually a lot of it _Dg6YOfZQXy-00487-00110048-00110278 is formed by women so and when we say _Dg6YOfZQXy-00488-00110279-00110447 informal sector in jordan _Dg6YOfZQXy-00489-00110448-00110815 we are talking about um house businesses _Dg6YOfZQXy-00490-00110816-00110966 so be it cooking at home _Dg6YOfZQXy-00491-00110967-00111183 uh being a domestic worker in someone _Dg6YOfZQXy-00492-00111183-00111295 else's home _Dg6YOfZQXy-00493-00111296-00111527 um doing handicrafts and selling them _Dg6YOfZQXy-00494-00111528-00111631 and all that kind of _Dg6YOfZQXy-00495-00111632-00111919 economy it was basically shut down and _Dg6YOfZQXy-00496-00111920-00112134 since it is informal economy so _Dg6YOfZQXy-00497-00112135-00112343 they didn't have necessarily um _Dg6YOfZQXy-00498-00112344-00112495 financial support to me _Dg6YOfZQXy-00499-00112496-00112831 to sustain themselves um _Dg6YOfZQXy-00500-00112832-00113047 there's a lot of migrant workers who _Dg6YOfZQXy-00501-00113048-00113231 work as domestic workers here so they _Dg6YOfZQXy-00502-00113232-00113415 had increased house chores hours they _Dg6YOfZQXy-00503-00113416-00113502 were working _Dg6YOfZQXy-00504-00113503-00113783 16 18 hours a day imagine with all the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00505-00113783-00114071 anxiety about their loved ones back home _Dg6YOfZQXy-00506-00114072-00114278 and having also to take care of all the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00507-00114279-00114390 emotional _Dg6YOfZQXy-00508-00114391-00114631 of the all emotional labor of the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00509-00114632-00114847 household where they're working _Dg6YOfZQXy-00510-00114848-00115102 um in addition to that obviously sexual _Dg6YOfZQXy-00511-00115103-00115207 and reproductive _Dg6YOfZQXy-00512-00115208-00115439 um health services were inaccessible for _Dg6YOfZQXy-00513-00115440-00115607 a certain amount of time a lot of legal _Dg6YOfZQXy-00514-00115608-00115758 cases were suspended _Dg6YOfZQXy-00515-00115759-00116018 some of them were divorce cases um _Dg6YOfZQXy-00516-00116019-00116158 [Music] _Dg6YOfZQXy-00517-00116159-00116454 that happened due to domestic violence _Dg6YOfZQXy-00518-00116455-00116607 and they were not resolved because the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00519-00116608-00116758 courts were not working for a _Dg6YOfZQXy-00520-00116759-00116990 little time for some time so the women _Dg6YOfZQXy-00521-00116991-00117166 were stuck with their abusers and the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00522-00117167-00117302 households _Dg6YOfZQXy-00523-00117303-00117583 and there was more online harassment _Dg6YOfZQXy-00524-00117583-00117758 also attract and that _Dg6YOfZQXy-00525-00117759-00117902 that period of time because obviously _Dg6YOfZQXy-00526-00117903-00118078 people spend more time online _Dg6YOfZQXy-00527-00118079-00118447 which means more harassment um _Dg6YOfZQXy-00528-00118448-00118654 and one very very important point that i _Dg6YOfZQXy-00529-00118655-00118783 would like to focus on _Dg6YOfZQXy-00530-00118783-00119183 here is the the the tremendous increase _Dg6YOfZQXy-00531-00119183-00119231 in _Dg6YOfZQXy-00532-00119232-00119447 domestic violence in the first two _Dg6YOfZQXy-00533-00119448-00119615 months of the lockdown the family _Dg6YOfZQXy-00534-00119616-00119758 protection department which is a _Dg6YOfZQXy-00535-00119759-00119951 governmental institution _Dg6YOfZQXy-00536-00119952-00120327 um reported that there was an increase _Dg6YOfZQXy-00537-00120328-00120607 of 33 percent in reports of domestic _Dg6YOfZQXy-00538-00120608-00120847 violence and it's important to note here _Dg6YOfZQXy-00539-00120848-00121102 that a lot of people do not report _Dg6YOfZQXy-00540-00121103-00121375 um according to statistics only three _Dg6YOfZQXy-00541-00121376-00121510 percent report to _Dg6YOfZQXy-00542-00121511-00121710 a family protection department so i _Dg6YOfZQXy-00543-00121711-00121919 leave you to imagine the amount of women _Dg6YOfZQXy-00544-00121920-00122047 who are actually abused in their _Dg6YOfZQXy-00545-00122048-00122143 households for _Dg6YOfZQXy-00546-00122144-00122343 month and month without having the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00547-00122344-00122543 capacity or the opportunity to leave _Dg6YOfZQXy-00548-00122544-00122663 their household _Dg6YOfZQXy-00549-00122664-00122831 or to seek help either because they're _Dg6YOfZQXy-00550-00122832-00123063 in remote areas or because they cannot _Dg6YOfZQXy-00551-00123064-00123214 they do not have their own phones or _Dg6YOfZQXy-00552-00123215-00123390 because they're monitored by their _Dg6YOfZQXy-00553-00123391-00123607 husbands or partners or abusive fathers _Dg6YOfZQXy-00554-00123608-00123766 so they cannot necessarily _Dg6YOfZQXy-00555-00123767-00123990 reach even out to organizations feminist _Dg6YOfZQXy-00556-00123991-00124151 organizations were trying to provide _Dg6YOfZQXy-00557-00124152-00124358 support at that time _Dg6YOfZQXy-00558-00124359-00124663 and also a very sad number and that is _Dg6YOfZQXy-00559-00124664-00124799 tied definitely to the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00560-00124800-00125039 lockdown measures is that since january _Dg6YOfZQXy-00561-00125040-00125214 2020 we lost _Dg6YOfZQXy-00562-00125215-00125607 17 women and girls um _Dg6YOfZQXy-00563-00125608-00125790 they left our world they were killed by _Dg6YOfZQXy-00564-00125791-00126014 either their partners brothers _Dg6YOfZQXy-00565-00126015-00126431 or fathers and one of them and _Dg6YOfZQXy-00566-00126432-00126623 just to give you a little bit of context _Dg6YOfZQXy-00567-00126624-00126814 in 2019 we had _Dg6YOfZQXy-00568-00126815-00127143 20 women killed and girls _Dg6YOfZQXy-00569-00127144-00127566 and um that was 186 _Dg6YOfZQXy-00570-00127567-00127927 more than in 2018. so the numbers have _Dg6YOfZQXy-00571-00127928-00128119 been increasing as i said even before _Dg6YOfZQXy-00572-00128120-00128286 the lockdown but the fact that there has _Dg6YOfZQXy-00573-00128288-00128414 been such tremendous _Dg6YOfZQXy-00574-00128415-00128702 pressure mentally economically and _Dg6YOfZQXy-00575-00128703-00128886 because people do not have the tools to _Dg6YOfZQXy-00576-00128888-00129007 deal with that and because the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00577-00129008-00129071 governmental _Dg6YOfZQXy-00578-00129072-00129307 institutions have never been taken the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00579-00129308-00129502 responsibilities that they should be _Dg6YOfZQXy-00580-00129503-00129599 taking _Dg6YOfZQXy-00581-00129600-00129814 to handle these things holistically you _Dg6YOfZQXy-00582-00129815-00129902 know in _Dg6YOfZQXy-00583-00129903-00130119 a way that could tackle all sides of the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00584-00130120-00130254 problem _Dg6YOfZQXy-00585-00130255-00130566 um it it was not done _Dg6YOfZQXy-00586-00130567-00130799 so obviously the consequences are just _Dg6YOfZQXy-00587-00130800-00130990 um aggravating _Dg6YOfZQXy-00588-00130991-00131302 i i think i spoke for too long i'm sorry _Dg6YOfZQXy-00589-00131303-00131575 um i would gladly deepen this particular _Dg6YOfZQXy-00590-00131576-00131687 point um _Dg6YOfZQXy-00591-00131688-00131863 later but there is one important thing i _Dg6YOfZQXy-00592-00131864-00132031 want to say because we're going to bring _Dg6YOfZQXy-00593-00132032-00132143 it up later _Dg6YOfZQXy-00594-00132144-00132302 is that one of the women who was killed _Dg6YOfZQXy-00595-00132303-00132454 this summer um _Dg6YOfZQXy-00596-00132455-00132814 is a 40 year to old woman her name is _Dg6YOfZQXy-00597-00132815-00133078 and her story is particular because it _Dg6YOfZQXy-00598-00133079-00133119 was _Dg6YOfZQXy-00599-00133120-00133423 not only because i mean um extremely _Dg6YOfZQXy-00600-00133424-00133502 violent _Dg6YOfZQXy-00601-00133503-00133799 she was killed by her father and the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00602-00133800-00133966 neighbors were not able to help because _Dg6YOfZQXy-00603-00133967-00134166 the father prevented that _Dg6YOfZQXy-00604-00134167-00134543 um but that moved _Dg6YOfZQXy-00605-00134544-00134807 the street even during lockdown but i'm _Dg6YOfZQXy-00606-00134808-00134990 going to get back to that _Dg6YOfZQXy-00607-00134991-00135399 story a little bit more in detail later _Dg6YOfZQXy-00608-00135400-00135639 thank you so much christina for all _Dg6YOfZQXy-00609-00135640-00135927 these _Dg6YOfZQXy-00610-00135928-00136183 details um and the background _Dg6YOfZQXy-00611-00136184-00136502 information which really helped us to _Dg6YOfZQXy-00612-00136503-00136847 understand the manifold uh variables at _Dg6YOfZQXy-00613-00136848-00137199 play to put women in such a _Dg6YOfZQXy-00614-00137200-00137426 situation and um _Dg6YOfZQXy-00615-00137427-00137551 [Music] _Dg6YOfZQXy-00616-00137552-00137935 well let us hear a little bit more about _Dg6YOfZQXy-00617-00137936-00138287 india now um _Dg6YOfZQXy-00618-00138288-00138439 maybe you can also tell us a little bit _Dg6YOfZQXy-00619-00138440-00138671 about uh the main problems you have _Dg6YOfZQXy-00620-00138672-00138983 observed in in india or in _Dg6YOfZQXy-00621-00138984-00139190 i mean many problems probably what but _Dg6YOfZQXy-00622-00139191-00139463 some you would like to focus on _Dg6YOfZQXy-00623-00139464-00139727 during the first months of the lockdown _Dg6YOfZQXy-00624-00139728-00139847 but i'm going to present you _Dg6YOfZQXy-00625-00139848-00140151 quickly before we do that uh radhika _Dg6YOfZQXy-00626-00140152-00140214 menong _Dg6YOfZQXy-00627-00140215-00140495 is an academic activist living and _Dg6YOfZQXy-00628-00140496-00140551 working _Dg6YOfZQXy-00629-00140552-00140807 in the city of delhi india she has been _Dg6YOfZQXy-00630-00140808-00141014 involved in researching working and _Dg6YOfZQXy-00631-00141015-00141287 organizing on class and equality issues _Dg6YOfZQXy-00632-00141288-00141447 she is professionally engaged as a _Dg6YOfZQXy-00633-00141448-00141654 teacher educator and works towards _Dg6YOfZQXy-00634-00141655-00141871 feminist pedagogy and transformative _Dg6YOfZQXy-00635-00141872-00141990 education _Dg6YOfZQXy-00636-00141991-00142166 radhika is a queen observer and _Dg6YOfZQXy-00637-00142167-00142326 commentator of development in her _Dg6YOfZQXy-00638-00142327-00142551 country especially on issues of _Dg6YOfZQXy-00639-00142552-00142883 gender case and class _Dg6YOfZQXy-00640-00142884-00143254 ridicul your thoughts about the first _Dg6YOfZQXy-00641-00143255-00143847 month of the pandemic _Dg6YOfZQXy-00642-00143848-00144247 thank you christina and thank you uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-00643-00144248-00144599 christina and and danielle from _Dg6YOfZQXy-00644-00144600-00144926 uh it was interesting to hear _Dg6YOfZQXy-00645-00144927-00145119 and rather saddening also to hear the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00646-00145120-00145263 kind of horrific _Dg6YOfZQXy-00647-00145264-00145502 uh details about what people have to go _Dg6YOfZQXy-00648-00145503-00145671 through you know especially women have _Dg6YOfZQXy-00649-00145672-00145799 had to go through in _Dg6YOfZQXy-00650-00145800-00146063 brazil or in jordan some of the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00651-00146064-00146214 situations _Dg6YOfZQXy-00652-00146215-00146390 that have evolved that have developed _Dg6YOfZQXy-00653-00146391-00146614 here in the post-pandemic period _Dg6YOfZQXy-00654-00146615-00146999 are quite close to what uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-00655-00147000-00147199 what anion and christina have already _Dg6YOfZQXy-00656-00147200-00147343 talked about there have been _Dg6YOfZQXy-00657-00147344-00147607 terrible cases of violence within the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00658-00147608-00147711 household _Dg6YOfZQXy-00659-00147712-00147943 as well as you know women having to work _Dg6YOfZQXy-00660-00147944-00148023 long hours _Dg6YOfZQXy-00661-00148024-00148302 and under extremely dire circumstances _Dg6YOfZQXy-00662-00148303-00148487 with very little resources _Dg6YOfZQXy-00663-00148488-00148743 and the condition of working women _Dg6YOfZQXy-00664-00148744-00148863 particularly _Dg6YOfZQXy-00665-00148864-00149183 from the poorer backgrounds have had _Dg6YOfZQXy-00666-00149184-00149511 have been extremely resource crunched as _Dg6YOfZQXy-00667-00149512-00149654 well as you know they've had to face a _Dg6YOfZQXy-00668-00149655-00149831 lot of policy challenges _Dg6YOfZQXy-00669-00149832-00150063 but it would be uh it would be necessary _Dg6YOfZQXy-00670-00150064-00150175 to actually put some _Dg6YOfZQXy-00671-00150176-00150447 things into place because what we do _Dg6YOfZQXy-00672-00150448-00150654 notice is that you know there are a few _Dg6YOfZQXy-00673-00150655-00150911 uh patterns that we can identify in the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00674-00150912-00150983 way _Dg6YOfZQXy-00675-00150984-00151295 uh the challenges did emerge in the post _Dg6YOfZQXy-00676-00151296-00151599 pandemic period see the first and _Dg6YOfZQXy-00677-00151600-00151751 foremost was the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00678-00151752-00152095 uh the refusal or almost _Dg6YOfZQXy-00679-00152096-00152319 almost a reluctance to acknowledge that _Dg6YOfZQXy-00680-00152320-00152495 there was a health emergency that was _Dg6YOfZQXy-00681-00152496-00152735 arising you know when we had the first _Dg6YOfZQXy-00682-00152736-00152807 case that _Dg6YOfZQXy-00683-00152808-00153102 came in uh the kovid case in on in on _Dg6YOfZQXy-00684-00153103-00153247 30th of january _Dg6YOfZQXy-00685-00153248-00153502 it took till march for the you know _Dg6YOfZQXy-00686-00153503-00153687 union government to actually acknowledge _Dg6YOfZQXy-00687-00153688-00153790 that you know _Dg6YOfZQXy-00688-00153791-00153935 something serious was happening and _Dg6YOfZQXy-00689-00153936-00154183 there was a the immediate reaction was _Dg6YOfZQXy-00690-00154184-00154239 that of _Dg6YOfZQXy-00691-00154240-00154535 uh of implementing a lockdown with a _Dg6YOfZQXy-00692-00154536-00154663 four hour notice _Dg6YOfZQXy-00693-00154664-00154887 and a lockdown which went on till up to _Dg6YOfZQXy-00694-00154888-00155007 eighth of june _Dg6YOfZQXy-00695-00155008-00155231 and uh after which it was tentatively _Dg6YOfZQXy-00696-00155232-00155351 lifted _Dg6YOfZQXy-00697-00155352-00155623 uh but in this this period what uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-00698-00155624-00155711 emerged was _Dg6YOfZQXy-00699-00155712-00155935 uh you know it's not only the health _Dg6YOfZQXy-00700-00155936-00156031 crisis _Dg6YOfZQXy-00701-00156032-00156302 but a huge social crisis that seems to _Dg6YOfZQXy-00702-00156303-00156343 have _Dg6YOfZQXy-00703-00156344-00156671 emerged in this period and particularly _Dg6YOfZQXy-00704-00156672-00156735 for _Dg6YOfZQXy-00705-00156736-00157111 uh particularly for migrant workers _Dg6YOfZQXy-00706-00157112-00157351 and i would like to focus upon what has _Dg6YOfZQXy-00707-00157352-00157439 actually _Dg6YOfZQXy-00708-00157440-00157799 happened to the migrant working people _Dg6YOfZQXy-00709-00157800-00158159 because they suffered the max _Dg6YOfZQXy-00710-00158160-00158487 they suffered tremendous losses because _Dg6YOfZQXy-00711-00158488-00158559 of the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00712-00158560-00158831 as much because of the strategy that of _Dg6YOfZQXy-00713-00158832-00158911 lockdown _Dg6YOfZQXy-00714-00158912-00159126 as as the as also because of the health _Dg6YOfZQXy-00715-00159127-00159311 crisis that emerged _Dg6YOfZQXy-00716-00159312-00159599 there was no economic package or _Dg6YOfZQXy-00717-00159600-00159687 announced for _Dg6YOfZQXy-00718-00159688-00159951 a long period of time and even when it _Dg6YOfZQXy-00719-00159952-00159990 was _Dg6YOfZQXy-00720-00159991-00160247 announced it was primarily for you know _Dg6YOfZQXy-00721-00160248-00160326 it was uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-00722-00160327-00160639 it was very top down and _Dg6YOfZQXy-00723-00160640-00160807 the money was not so much in the hands _Dg6YOfZQXy-00724-00160808-00160983 of the poor people _Dg6YOfZQXy-00725-00160984-00161295 but in the hands of uh you know the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00726-00161296-00161471 distribution systems was very very _Dg6YOfZQXy-00727-00161472-00161535 unique _Dg6YOfZQXy-00728-00161536-00161887 was very unequal the the lockdown as a _Dg6YOfZQXy-00729-00161888-00161951 strategy _Dg6YOfZQXy-00730-00161952-00162102 also happened without much because _Dg6YOfZQXy-00731-00162103-00162319 without much planning as a result of _Dg6YOfZQXy-00732-00162320-00162463 which _Dg6YOfZQXy-00733-00162464-00162743 what we do find uh is that uh you know _Dg6YOfZQXy-00734-00162744-00162799 there was _Dg6YOfZQXy-00735-00162800-00162966 those those there was a tremendous _Dg6YOfZQXy-00736-00162967-00163214 suffering that came into being _Dg6YOfZQXy-00737-00163215-00163454 the other policy may in uh the other _Dg6YOfZQXy-00738-00163455-00163559 policy measures _Dg6YOfZQXy-00739-00163560-00163766 uh that did happen in this period i _Dg6YOfZQXy-00740-00163767-00164007 would like to speak about a little later _Dg6YOfZQXy-00741-00164008-00164271 but primarily the emergence of women as _Dg6YOfZQXy-00742-00164272-00164366 workers _Dg6YOfZQXy-00743-00164367-00164623 uh you know that became that became very _Dg6YOfZQXy-00744-00164624-00164790 important in this period _Dg6YOfZQXy-00745-00164791-00165031 what we as far as the migrant work is _Dg6YOfZQXy-00746-00165032-00165223 concerned you know india has about _Dg6YOfZQXy-00747-00165224-00165535 uh as a very large section of uh migrant _Dg6YOfZQXy-00748-00165536-00165814 population uh these are both intra state _Dg6YOfZQXy-00749-00165815-00165990 as well as interstate that is within the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00750-00165991-00166143 provinces of india _Dg6YOfZQXy-00751-00166144-00166390 so uh according to the 2011 census there _Dg6YOfZQXy-00752-00166391-00166671 was there is about 450 million migrants _Dg6YOfZQXy-00753-00166672-00166975 and 33 percent of whom are workers _Dg6YOfZQXy-00754-00166976-00167302 and about which is uh you know _Dg6YOfZQXy-00755-00167303-00167614 which is about 148 million or so _Dg6YOfZQXy-00756-00167615-00167838 of migrant workers and many of them are _Dg6YOfZQXy-00757-00167839-00167999 working in this construction sector _Dg6YOfZQXy-00758-00168000-00168254 domestic work textiles agriculture _Dg6YOfZQXy-00759-00168255-00168526 brick and transportation mines hawking _Dg6YOfZQXy-00760-00168527-00168719 and provision of services _Dg6YOfZQXy-00761-00168720-00168935 what we do find is that the migrant _Dg6YOfZQXy-00762-00168936-00169031 workers _Dg6YOfZQXy-00763-00169032-00169295 are there is a larger representation _Dg6YOfZQXy-00764-00169296-00169483 from certain regions of _Dg6YOfZQXy-00765-00169484-00169847 india and they move towards _Dg6YOfZQXy-00766-00169848-00170151 areas either towns or cities uh to _Dg6YOfZQXy-00767-00170152-00170375 to find seasonal work and return back to _Dg6YOfZQXy-00768-00170376-00170502 the villages _Dg6YOfZQXy-00769-00170503-00170687 when the work goes off there is also _Dg6YOfZQXy-00770-00170688-00170823 section of population which is also _Dg6YOfZQXy-00771-00170824-00170926 settled _Dg6YOfZQXy-00772-00170927-00171207 in the city but with lower uh with very _Dg6YOfZQXy-00773-00171208-00171278 fragile _Dg6YOfZQXy-00774-00171279-00171590 uh you know economic status uh women are _Dg6YOfZQXy-00775-00171591-00171678 prime m _Dg6YOfZQXy-00776-00171679-00171975 mostly present in the construction work _Dg6YOfZQXy-00777-00171976-00172014 and _Dg6YOfZQXy-00778-00172015-00172247 agricultural work their women workers _Dg6YOfZQXy-00779-00172248-00172366 are more in the construction and _Dg6YOfZQXy-00780-00172367-00172526 agricultural works _Dg6YOfZQXy-00781-00172527-00172831 a typical feature of the migrant work is _Dg6YOfZQXy-00782-00172832-00173119 the low incomes that people have and _Dg6YOfZQXy-00783-00173120-00173311 then what the lockdown did was _Dg6YOfZQXy-00784-00173312-00173566 it caused tremendous livelihood loss _Dg6YOfZQXy-00785-00173567-00173623 there was _Dg6YOfZQXy-00786-00173624-00173831 a crisis of housing and shelter as _Dg6YOfZQXy-00787-00173832-00173951 people were unable to pay _Dg6YOfZQXy-00788-00173952-00174254 rent the credit supplies from the local _Dg6YOfZQXy-00789-00174255-00174438 stores began to dry up _Dg6YOfZQXy-00790-00174439-00174663 so they could not access you know _Dg6YOfZQXy-00791-00174664-00174807 essential provisions _Dg6YOfZQXy-00792-00174808-00175175 including food food and daily essential _Dg6YOfZQXy-00793-00175176-00175311 items _Dg6YOfZQXy-00794-00175312-00175502 they were also denied for a lot of _Dg6YOfZQXy-00795-00175503-00175702 workers in construction sites _Dg6YOfZQXy-00796-00175703-00175999 including women workers they their wages _Dg6YOfZQXy-00797-00176000-00176135 were stolen by _Dg6YOfZQXy-00798-00176136-00176447 new contractors who refused to pay them _Dg6YOfZQXy-00799-00176448-00176614 and they were forced to return to the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00800-00176615-00176799 villages so it was _Dg6YOfZQXy-00801-00176800-00177014 the the return to the villages was a _Dg6YOfZQXy-00802-00177015-00177143 fast situation _Dg6YOfZQXy-00803-00177144-00177311 so they because the city could not _Dg6YOfZQXy-00804-00177312-00177487 accommodate them any longer _Dg6YOfZQXy-00805-00177488-00177671 and uh because of the little planning _Dg6YOfZQXy-00806-00177672-00177983 that had happened prior to the lockdown _Dg6YOfZQXy-00807-00177984-00178311 what some an unprecedented uh thing _Dg6YOfZQXy-00808-00178312-00178407 happened which was a _Dg6YOfZQXy-00809-00178408-00178759 massive reverse migration by foot uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-00810-00178760-00178983 began towards the villages india is a _Dg6YOfZQXy-00811-00178984-00179135 large country so the thing is _Dg6YOfZQXy-00812-00179136-00179407 a lot of people had to walk uh you know _Dg6YOfZQXy-00813-00179408-00179575 hundreds and thou in in fact even _Dg6YOfZQXy-00814-00179576-00179638 thousand _Dg6YOfZQXy-00815-00179639-00179911 plus 1500 kilometers to reach their _Dg6YOfZQXy-00816-00179912-00179983 homes _Dg6YOfZQXy-00817-00179984-00180190 and uh you know there's been a recent _Dg6YOfZQXy-00818-00180191-00180359 study in which actually said that you _Dg6YOfZQXy-00819-00180360-00180471 know one out of _Dg6YOfZQXy-00820-00180472-00180671 four people who left for their villages _Dg6YOfZQXy-00821-00180672-00180854 actually had to walk back _Dg6YOfZQXy-00822-00180855-00181207 uh the the pandemic what it did was it _Dg6YOfZQXy-00823-00181208-00181399 visibilized this workforce _Dg6YOfZQXy-00824-00181400-00181654 you know this was like the migrant _Dg6YOfZQXy-00825-00181655-00181775 workers are like an _Dg6YOfZQXy-00826-00181776-00181919 it's like an elephant in the room which _Dg6YOfZQXy-00827-00181920-00182087 nobody wants to see _Dg6YOfZQXy-00828-00182088-00182359 and the the entire process of neoliberal _Dg6YOfZQXy-00829-00182360-00182543 developments that have taken place have _Dg6YOfZQXy-00830-00182544-00182726 refused to acknowledge the contribution _Dg6YOfZQXy-00831-00182727-00182871 of migrant workers _Dg6YOfZQXy-00832-00182872-00183247 the the lockdown um forced the people to _Dg6YOfZQXy-00833-00183248-00183511 actually go back to the go to the you _Dg6YOfZQXy-00834-00183512-00183687 know uh to visibilize them _Dg6YOfZQXy-00835-00183688-00183878 and uh including the what happened was _Dg6YOfZQXy-00836-00183879-00184038 including the recognition that women and _Dg6YOfZQXy-00837-00184039-00184190 children are migrants _Dg6YOfZQXy-00838-00184191-00184414 and unfortunately this recognition has _Dg6YOfZQXy-00839-00184415-00184638 come at the cost of tremendous suffering _Dg6YOfZQXy-00840-00184639-00184871 death on the road breath death on the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00841-00184872-00185135 you know death on trains when _Dg6YOfZQXy-00842-00185136-00185375 subsequently later some trains labor _Dg6YOfZQXy-00843-00185376-00185511 trains were started _Dg6YOfZQXy-00844-00185512-00185695 after many people had already died but _Dg6YOfZQXy-00845-00185696-00185847 the trains there were deaths on the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00846-00185848-00186014 trains because there wasn't water there _Dg6YOfZQXy-00847-00186015-00186071 wasn't _Dg6YOfZQXy-00848-00186072-00186350 food the the trains were taking a detour _Dg6YOfZQXy-00849-00186351-00186495 and there were roadside deliveries of _Dg6YOfZQXy-00850-00186496-00186575 babies but _Dg6YOfZQXy-00851-00186576-00186735 there was this case of a woman who gave _Dg6YOfZQXy-00852-00186736-00186983 birth and within an hour she had to walk _Dg6YOfZQXy-00853-00186984-00187143 she started walking back to her village _Dg6YOfZQXy-00854-00187144-00187350 and she had walked up to about 150 _Dg6YOfZQXy-00855-00187351-00187431 kilometers _Dg6YOfZQXy-00856-00187432-00187735 in that just immediately after giving _Dg6YOfZQXy-00857-00187736-00187799 birth to a _Dg6YOfZQXy-00858-00187800-00188126 child so uh what _Dg6YOfZQXy-00859-00188127-00188399 we do find is uh and not not only was _Dg6YOfZQXy-00860-00188400-00188543 this there was heavy-handed police _Dg6YOfZQXy-00861-00188544-00188583 action _Dg6YOfZQXy-00862-00188584-00188838 public gaining humiliations you know _Dg6YOfZQXy-00863-00188839-00188895 this _Dg6YOfZQXy-00864-00188896-00189223 disinfectants were sprayed on on workers _Dg6YOfZQXy-00865-00189224-00189463 as if they were cattle and there were _Dg6YOfZQXy-00866-00189464-00189647 whimsical corporal punishments _Dg6YOfZQXy-00867-00189648-00189878 as social distancing was being enforced _Dg6YOfZQXy-00868-00189879-00189959 when people were _Dg6YOfZQXy-00869-00189960-00190190 you know being walking on the streets _Dg6YOfZQXy-00870-00190191-00190295 there was a review but _Dg6YOfZQXy-00871-00190296-00190543 you know the judiciary also kind of did _Dg6YOfZQXy-00872-00190544-00190671 not acknowledge the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00873-00190672-00190871 the kind of suffering that was being _Dg6YOfZQXy-00874-00190872-00191047 unleashed and _Dg6YOfZQXy-00875-00191048-00191254 there was lack of transportation food _Dg6YOfZQXy-00876-00191255-00191414 health and _Dg6YOfZQXy-00877-00191415-00191575 you know poor migrant workers were _Dg6YOfZQXy-00878-00191576-00191735 risking their frail health by walking _Dg6YOfZQXy-00879-00191736-00191895 thousands of kilometers _Dg6YOfZQXy-00880-00191896-00192135 and it is this in this perilous journey _Dg6YOfZQXy-00881-00192136-00192263 a lot of people died _Dg6YOfZQXy-00882-00192264-00192495 what was what is stock is the class bias _Dg6YOfZQXy-00883-00192496-00192711 and the sharp contrast and treatment of _Dg6YOfZQXy-00884-00192712-00192887 international migrants that were taking _Dg6YOfZQXy-00885-00192888-00193183 place so while concern was exhibited for _Dg6YOfZQXy-00886-00193184-00193375 these international migrants _Dg6YOfZQXy-00887-00193376-00193623 the intra in the migrant workers _Dg6YOfZQXy-00888-00193624-00193711 actually _Dg6YOfZQXy-00889-00193712-00193990 were were infantilized at some level _Dg6YOfZQXy-00890-00193991-00194054 because _Dg6YOfZQXy-00891-00194055-00194359 their just demand for returning back _Dg6YOfZQXy-00892-00194360-00194590 to the villages to survive against _Dg6YOfZQXy-00893-00194591-00194735 illness and hunger _Dg6YOfZQXy-00894-00194736-00194871 was being dismissed as something _Dg6YOfZQXy-00895-00194872-00195087 irrational there was state _Dg6YOfZQXy-00896-00195088-00195295 apathy the quarantines and when they _Dg6YOfZQXy-00897-00195296-00195478 returned back to the villages _Dg6YOfZQXy-00898-00195479-00195663 they found that the quarantines the home _Dg6YOfZQXy-00899-00195664-00195831 states did not want them the quarantine _Dg6YOfZQXy-00900-00195832-00195983 centers were poorly managed _Dg6YOfZQXy-00901-00195984-00196223 they had to fight uh extremely poor _Dg6YOfZQXy-00902-00196224-00196454 conditions over there _Dg6YOfZQXy-00903-00196455-00196743 so uh though and in the meantime what we _Dg6YOfZQXy-00904-00196744-00196935 do find is that uh this is also what _Dg6YOfZQXy-00905-00196936-00197071 that was the period when _Dg6YOfZQXy-00906-00197072-00197399 you know several uh laws and ordinance _Dg6YOfZQXy-00907-00197400-00197438 you know _Dg6YOfZQXy-00908-00197439-00197663 have been introduced which have worked _Dg6YOfZQXy-00909-00197664-00197871 against the rights of workers _Dg6YOfZQXy-00910-00197872-00198143 uh this has all affected women because _Dg6YOfZQXy-00911-00198144-00198335 women workers were invisible in this _Dg6YOfZQXy-00912-00198336-00198454 entire period _Dg6YOfZQXy-00913-00198455-00198854 and um uh the and what happened was we _Dg6YOfZQXy-00914-00198855-00198887 could _Dg6YOfZQXy-00915-00198888-00199119 we began to see women on the road on the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00916-00199120-00199223 street they were _Dg6YOfZQXy-00917-00199224-00199438 uh i mean they were they went they were _Dg6YOfZQXy-00918-00199439-00199583 sexually harassed _Dg6YOfZQXy-00919-00199584-00199863 you know they had to um transgender _Dg6YOfZQXy-00920-00199864-00200038 women could not find spaces _Dg6YOfZQXy-00921-00200039-00200431 the sudden so the remedy was as harsh as _Dg6YOfZQXy-00922-00200432-00200647 the illness and that was that's been a _Dg6YOfZQXy-00923-00200648-00200790 typical feature of _Dg6YOfZQXy-00924-00200791-00201095 uh of what has _Dg6YOfZQXy-00925-00201096-00201526 turned out in the country and um _Dg6YOfZQXy-00926-00201527-00201766 what is saddening is that you know the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00927-00201767-00202014 visibilization of the women workforce _Dg6YOfZQXy-00928-00202015-00202335 uh has happened at such a tragic cost uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-00929-00202336-00202407 i would _Dg6YOfZQXy-00930-00202408-00202614 if we have time later maybe i can speak _Dg6YOfZQXy-00931-00202615-00202735 a little bit more about _Dg6YOfZQXy-00932-00202736-00202902 uh some of the things that have _Dg6YOfZQXy-00933-00202903-00203111 developed since then _Dg6YOfZQXy-00934-00203112-00203350 yeah thanks rajica exactly i think we _Dg6YOfZQXy-00935-00203351-00203431 can maybe _Dg6YOfZQXy-00936-00203432-00203654 um go a little bit more into death also _Dg6YOfZQXy-00937-00203655-00203838 in the second _Dg6YOfZQXy-00938-00203839-00204014 round of question also with the question _Dg6YOfZQXy-00939-00204015-00204166 with the audience _Dg6YOfZQXy-00940-00204167-00204495 um yeah i think um _Dg6YOfZQXy-00941-00204496-00204806 we can start again the round with angeli _Dg6YOfZQXy-00942-00204807-00204951 but also question of course for all of _Dg6YOfZQXy-00943-00204952-00205119 you guys so _Dg6YOfZQXy-00944-00205119-00205462 uh what kind of strategies have actually _Dg6YOfZQXy-00945-00205463-00205758 been adopted in in your countries to _Dg6YOfZQXy-00946-00205759-00205934 mitigate these problems i think you _Dg6YOfZQXy-00947-00205935-00206038 already mentioned _Dg6YOfZQXy-00948-00206039-00206271 some of these government policies and i _Dg6YOfZQXy-00949-00206271-00206406 would like to know like what kind of _Dg6YOfZQXy-00950-00206407-00206582 these policies actually _Dg6YOfZQXy-00951-00206583-00206862 work they did which didn't work and i _Dg6YOfZQXy-00952-00206863-00207038 think what's very interesting _Dg6YOfZQXy-00953-00207039-00207198 where did actually like women _Dg6YOfZQXy-00954-00207200-00207375 organization or civil society _Dg6YOfZQXy-00955-00207376-00207694 organization had to step in and do the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00956-00207696-00208014 do the work uh in order to tackle _Dg6YOfZQXy-00957-00208015-00208166 problems that the government didn't want _Dg6YOfZQXy-00958-00208167-00208358 to solve or didn't see _Dg6YOfZQXy-00959-00208359-00208798 um yeah maybe you could uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-00960-00208800-00208934 nearly maybe you could give us some _Dg6YOfZQXy-00961-00208935-00209134 insights about the situation here _Dg6YOfZQXy-00962-00209135-00209198 janeiro _Dg6YOfZQXy-00963-00209200-00209423 and the role of uh civil society _Dg6YOfZQXy-00964-00209423-00209614 organizations in order to _Dg6YOfZQXy-00965-00209615-00209831 mitigate some of the problems in the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00966-00209832-00210046 pandemic _Dg6YOfZQXy-00967-00210048-00210246 yes um so like i said in the first _Dg6YOfZQXy-00968-00210248-00210527 question we had to get organized and do _Dg6YOfZQXy-00969-00210528-00210839 some stuff to help those people uh ian _Dg6YOfZQXy-00970-00210840-00211006 maria le franco institute _Dg6YOfZQXy-00971-00211007-00211271 the place where i am the director this _Dg6YOfZQXy-00972-00211271-00211358 year and _Dg6YOfZQXy-00973-00211359-00211694 for the next year we had to change _Dg6YOfZQXy-00974-00211696-00212006 our priorities and we had to promote _Dg6YOfZQXy-00975-00212007-00212334 urgent actions to guarantee basic rights _Dg6YOfZQXy-00976-00212335-00212582 access to most vulnerable people you _Dg6YOfZQXy-00977-00212583-00212734 know so we had to _Dg6YOfZQXy-00978-00212735-00213006 uh at the same time that we had to _Dg6YOfZQXy-00979-00213007-00213167 disputing the paths on the way _Dg6YOfZQXy-00980-00213167-00213446 out of the crisis and the future of the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00981-00213448-00213631 activities when public policies in _Dg6YOfZQXy-00982-00213632-00213710 brazil _Dg6YOfZQXy-00983-00213711-00214015 from the black perspective we would also _Dg6YOfZQXy-00984-00214016-00214282 had we also had to structure any _Dg6YOfZQXy-00985-00214283-00214375 strength the _Dg6YOfZQXy-00986-00214376-00214615 policies uh management process and _Dg6YOfZQXy-00987-00214616-00214742 sustainability _Dg6YOfZQXy-00988-00214744-00214951 for our organization because everybody _Dg6YOfZQXy-00989-00214952-00215127 was just looking at us like oh _Dg6YOfZQXy-00990-00215128-00215367 marielle franco institute can do a lot _Dg6YOfZQXy-00991-00215367-00215494 and we were just _Dg6YOfZQXy-00992-00215496-00215815 studying jesus in 2020 so we didn't have _Dg6YOfZQXy-00993-00215816-00216039 enough money we didn't have enough _Dg6YOfZQXy-00994-00216040-00216334 uh people work with us but even though _Dg6YOfZQXy-00995-00216335-00216567 we got together with other organizations _Dg6YOfZQXy-00996-00216567-00216919 and create ways so we create _Dg6YOfZQXy-00997-00216919-00217255 um six to seven projects _Dg6YOfZQXy-00998-00217256-00217503 and i would just like to highlight two _Dg6YOfZQXy-00999-00217504-00217623 of them _Dg6YOfZQXy-01000-00217623-00217927 uh we created a map here in brazil that _Dg6YOfZQXy-01001-00217928-00218006 was called _Dg6YOfZQXy-01002-00218007-00218246 map corona peripheries what does that _Dg6YOfZQXy-01003-00218248-00218319 mean _Dg6YOfZQXy-01004-00218319-00218519 it was a map that would connect _Dg6YOfZQXy-01005-00218519-00218646 solidarity _Dg6YOfZQXy-01006-00218648-00218942 in brazilian lands and in other areas _Dg6YOfZQXy-01007-00218944-00219063 input areas _Dg6YOfZQXy-01008-00219064-00219263 in order to give them visibility _Dg6YOfZQXy-01009-00219264-00219575 visibility and potentialize the groups _Dg6YOfZQXy-01010-00219576-00219882 of activists that were uh acting _Dg6YOfZQXy-01011-00219883-00220023 directly _Dg6YOfZQXy-01012-00220023-00220334 inside the more affected territories _Dg6YOfZQXy-01013-00220335-00220639 so this map was a partnership _Dg6YOfZQXy-01014-00220640-00221015 with twitter brazil and other uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-01015-00221016-00221463 partners here in riyu and we've we could _Dg6YOfZQXy-01016-00221464-00221531 help _Dg6YOfZQXy-01017-00221532-00221942 620 slums and poor areas _Dg6YOfZQXy-01018-00221944-00222198 they were impacted by that and 500 _Dg6YOfZQXy-01019-00222200-00222255 groups _Dg6YOfZQXy-01020-00222256-00222503 mapped in general so in the map you _Dg6YOfZQXy-01021-00222504-00222671 could find a place to _Dg6YOfZQXy-01022-00222671-00222982 receive donation and also to give _Dg6YOfZQXy-01023-00222983-00223334 you know so it was very satisfaction for _Dg6YOfZQXy-01024-00223335-00223655 us because we had a good result after _Dg6YOfZQXy-01025-00223656-00223742 this _Dg6YOfZQXy-01026-00223744-00224055 another project was called agoria water _Dg6YOfZQXy-01027-00224056-00224375 which was very important to me because _Dg6YOfZQXy-01028-00224376-00224710 we registering the access _Dg6YOfZQXy-01029-00224711-00224991 to emergency basic income that i said in _Dg6YOfZQXy-01030-00224992-00225310 the first question from the government _Dg6YOfZQXy-01031-00225311-00225679 for 205 thousand five hundred _Dg6YOfZQXy-01032-00225680-00225894 women leaderships in their places in _Dg6YOfZQXy-01033-00225896-00226071 their community _Dg6YOfZQXy-01034-00226071-00226398 and we had all of those women they could _Dg6YOfZQXy-01035-00226400-00226463 help _Dg6YOfZQXy-01036-00226464-00226742 other families so we kind of taught them _Dg6YOfZQXy-01037-00226744-00226927 how to get to this emergency _Dg6YOfZQXy-01038-00226928-00227215 income and they helping other people and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01039-00227216-00227431 that was like a kind of a game _Dg6YOfZQXy-01040-00227432-00227655 you help he and someone else would have _Dg6YOfZQXy-01041-00227656-00227758 after that _Dg6YOfZQXy-01042-00227759-00228023 so in the total of these we kind of help _Dg6YOfZQXy-01043-00228023-00228094 15 _Dg6YOfZQXy-01044-00228096-00228406 000 black women and her families _Dg6YOfZQXy-01045-00228407-00228710 that were supported in nine cities in _Dg6YOfZQXy-01046-00228711-00228823 the whole uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-01047-00228823-00229127 state of rio de janeiro you know and the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01048-00229128-00229206 last one _Dg6YOfZQXy-01049-00229207-00229727 just to finish and so they can talk _Dg6YOfZQXy-01050-00229728-00229967 was a partnership with a movement called _Dg6YOfZQXy-01051-00229967-00230119 black women the side _Dg6YOfZQXy-01052-00230119-00230487 with a very young movement here in rio _Dg6YOfZQXy-01053-00230488-00230810 and we did a research with _Dg6YOfZQXy-01054-00230811-00231119 350 black women activists _Dg6YOfZQXy-01055-00231119-00231494 in outstates of brazil to find out where _Dg6YOfZQXy-01056-00231496-00231598 they came from _Dg6YOfZQXy-01057-00231600-00231831 where they are where they want to go _Dg6YOfZQXy-01058-00231832-00231998 after this crisis _Dg6YOfZQXy-01059-00232000-00232391 and we found like some important results _Dg6YOfZQXy-01060-00232392-00232479 with that _Dg6YOfZQXy-01061-00232480-00232655 they study points out they understand _Dg6YOfZQXy-01062-00232656-00232975 that black women were not only impacted _Dg6YOfZQXy-01063-00232976-00233215 like directly by the americans programs _Dg6YOfZQXy-01064-00233216-00233310 but also _Dg6YOfZQXy-01065-00233311-00233551 they were the one they were the ones who _Dg6YOfZQXy-01066-00233552-00233646 were designing _Dg6YOfZQXy-01067-00233648-00233903 and implement the impact you know and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01068-00233904-00234063 also show that black women here in _Dg6YOfZQXy-01069-00234064-00234119 brazil _Dg6YOfZQXy-01070-00234119-00234382 the activists were truly seeing the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01071-00234383-00234542 supposed new normal _Dg6YOfZQXy-01072-00234544-00234719 so these were like three projects that _Dg6YOfZQXy-01073-00234719-00234855 we had to do _Dg6YOfZQXy-01074-00234856-00235094 in order to try to survive and also in _Dg6YOfZQXy-01075-00235096-00235215 order to try to help _Dg6YOfZQXy-01076-00235216-00235455 not only those women but their families _Dg6YOfZQXy-01077-00235456-00235598 and the people that were directly _Dg6YOfZQXy-01078-00235600-00235967 affected by that _Dg6YOfZQXy-01079-00235967-00236342 wow congratulations _Dg6YOfZQXy-01080-00236344-00236671 seriously i can only imagine how _Dg6YOfZQXy-01081-00236671-00237046 how much how much book that was and uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-01082-00237048-00237279 i think actually it's also something _Dg6YOfZQXy-01083-00237280-00237542 your your sister i think also did once _Dg6YOfZQXy-01084-00237544-00237871 like design a law bill to access a _Dg6YOfZQXy-01085-00237871-00238039 public policy that's already _Dg6YOfZQXy-01086-00238040-00238439 there something like just something very _Dg6YOfZQXy-01087-00238440-00238894 rio general maybe i don't know um _Dg6YOfZQXy-01088-00238896-00239167 so christina tell us a little bit about _Dg6YOfZQXy-01089-00239167-00239542 jordan how was the situation there _Dg6YOfZQXy-01090-00239544-00239815 um you know every time i'm going to _Dg6YOfZQXy-01091-00239816-00240015 focus specifically i think on _Dg6YOfZQXy-01092-00240016-00240231 uh the mitigation of the issue related _Dg6YOfZQXy-01093-00240232-00240534 to domestic violence and women killings _Dg6YOfZQXy-01094-00240535-00240846 i want to start by this like very often _Dg6YOfZQXy-01095-00240848-00241063 when we actually start saying yes the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01096-00241064-00241255 government does not see these problems _Dg6YOfZQXy-01097-00241256-00241351 never did see _Dg6YOfZQXy-01098-00241352-00241582 never wanted to see or pretended to not _Dg6YOfZQXy-01099-00241583-00241687 see whatever _Dg6YOfZQXy-01100-00241688-00241823 wording you choose probably the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01101-00241823-00242079 pretending is the most accurate _Dg6YOfZQXy-01102-00242080-00242494 um although it's a strong accusation um _Dg6YOfZQXy-01103-00242496-00242687 people would be like yeah but you know _Dg6YOfZQXy-01104-00242688-00242879 you're exaggerating we're in the middle _Dg6YOfZQXy-01105-00242880-00243046 of a pandemic here _Dg6YOfZQXy-01106-00243048-00243230 and the government was not prepared the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01107-00243231-00243423 whole world was not prepared so what do _Dg6YOfZQXy-01108-00243423-00243639 you expect the government to do _Dg6YOfZQXy-01109-00243640-00243982 um and it it it is not necessarily false _Dg6YOfZQXy-01110-00243983-00244030 as a _Dg6YOfZQXy-01111-00244031-00244198 as an idea but it's important to _Dg6YOfZQXy-01112-00244200-00244358 underline the fact that the government _Dg6YOfZQXy-01113-00244359-00244430 was able _Dg6YOfZQXy-01114-00244431-00244758 in like less than a week um _Dg6YOfZQXy-01115-00244759-00245142 to provide 5000 um hotel rooms for _Dg6YOfZQXy-01116-00245144-00245351 people who need to be quarantined either _Dg6YOfZQXy-01117-00245352-00245519 because they're coming from abroad or _Dg6YOfZQXy-01118-00245519-00245606 because _Dg6YOfZQXy-01119-00245607-00245951 um they had the virus detected but they _Dg6YOfZQXy-01120-00245952-00246119 wouldn't even think for a second that _Dg6YOfZQXy-01121-00246119-00246182 maybe they're _Dg6YOfZQXy-01122-00246183-00246423 women who would need places to stay at _Dg6YOfZQXy-01123-00246423-00246591 because they're running from abusive _Dg6YOfZQXy-01124-00246592-00246719 households _Dg6YOfZQXy-01125-00246719-00247046 and that is not um not being prepared _Dg6YOfZQXy-01126-00247048-00247206 for a crisis that is just _Dg6YOfZQXy-01127-00247207-00247527 simply not seeing women life as a _Dg6YOfZQXy-01128-00247528-00247671 priority _Dg6YOfZQXy-01129-00247671-00248094 um so obviously what happened is that _Dg6YOfZQXy-01130-00248096-00248351 civil society organizations activists _Dg6YOfZQXy-01131-00248352-00248510 women rights activists _Dg6YOfZQXy-01132-00248511-00248703 they were the ones to take the lead and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01133-00248704-00248910 to do the job for the government as you _Dg6YOfZQXy-01134-00248911-00249127 said christina _Dg6YOfZQXy-01135-00249128-00249382 so a lot of the civil society actors _Dg6YOfZQXy-01136-00249383-00249558 they were not able because of the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01137-00249559-00249823 general lockdown to actually go _Dg6YOfZQXy-01138-00249823-00250151 and into households and help _Dg6YOfZQXy-01139-00250152-00250415 women surviving domestic violence to _Dg6YOfZQXy-01140-00250416-00250551 either _Dg6YOfZQXy-01141-00250552-00250775 mitigate the issue or or help them leave _Dg6YOfZQXy-01142-00250776-00250871 the house to a _Dg6YOfZQXy-01143-00250871-00251079 shelter knowing that in jordan currently _Dg6YOfZQXy-01144-00251080-00251263 there are only five shelters _Dg6YOfZQXy-01145-00251264-00251615 for abused women um which is _Dg6YOfZQXy-01146-00251616-00251951 very little obviously _Dg6YOfZQXy-01147-00251952-00252191 so what they did is because they them at _Dg6YOfZQXy-01148-00252192-00252375 least one organization i know they asked _Dg6YOfZQXy-01149-00252376-00252623 for permits to be able to leave _Dg6YOfZQXy-01150-00252623-00252782 to go to the streets and actually go to _Dg6YOfZQXy-01151-00252783-00252927 the households and help the women _Dg6YOfZQXy-01152-00252928-00253103 but they were not granted those permits _Dg6YOfZQXy-01153-00253104-00253287 um because the work was not seen _Dg6YOfZQXy-01154-00253288-00253398 essential _Dg6YOfZQXy-01155-00253400-00253719 um so what they tried to do instead is _Dg6YOfZQXy-01156-00253719-00253894 to maintain hotlines and obviously a _Dg6YOfZQXy-01157-00253896-00254055 hotline is not necessarily always _Dg6YOfZQXy-01158-00254056-00254198 something that can solve a problem but _Dg6YOfZQXy-01159-00254200-00254367 still it's a lifeline it's a connection _Dg6YOfZQXy-01160-00254367-00254591 to someone who can actually help you _Dg6YOfZQXy-01161-00254592-00254791 um they did increase visibility on _Dg6YOfZQXy-01162-00254792-00254894 social media so _Dg6YOfZQXy-01163-00254896-00255167 they started organizing discussions _Dg6YOfZQXy-01164-00255167-00255230 about _Dg6YOfZQXy-01165-00255231-00255391 different issues related to mental _Dg6YOfZQXy-01166-00255392-00255591 health related to economic the economic _Dg6YOfZQXy-01167-00255592-00255734 situation _Dg6YOfZQXy-01168-00255735-00255942 to help women understand and navigate _Dg6YOfZQXy-01169-00255944-00256127 this difficult situation _Dg6YOfZQXy-01170-00256128-00256327 that they are going through and all the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01171-00256328-00256519 challenges that the pandemic brought in _Dg6YOfZQXy-01172-00256519-00256694 them _Dg6YOfZQXy-01173-00256696-00256887 but it's important to understand that _Dg6YOfZQXy-01174-00256888-00257046 all these things were happening either _Dg6YOfZQXy-01175-00257048-00257215 online or by phone _Dg6YOfZQXy-01176-00257216-00257375 and both of those things are not _Dg6YOfZQXy-01177-00257376-00257527 accessible for all women _Dg6YOfZQXy-01178-00257528-00257839 there are many women either _Dg6YOfZQXy-01179-00257840-00257998 live in households where there is one _Dg6YOfZQXy-01180-00258000-00258279 phone or their phone is monitored or _Dg6YOfZQXy-01181-00258280-00258494 that they themselves are monitored _Dg6YOfZQXy-01182-00258496-00258671 so it's hard for them to actually get _Dg6YOfZQXy-01183-00258671-00258846 out there and ask for help _Dg6YOfZQXy-01184-00258848-00259151 um also _Dg6YOfZQXy-01185-00259152-00259446 um sometimes when you're in the middle _Dg6YOfZQXy-01186-00259448-00259494 of a _Dg6YOfZQXy-01187-00259496-00259879 personal crisis um at home _Dg6YOfZQXy-01188-00259880-00260142 you are so much in the dark because of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01189-00260144-00260367 all the emotions and feelings and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01190-00260367-00260606 and the physical and emotional pain that _Dg6YOfZQXy-01191-00260607-00260767 you're in that it doesn't even _Dg6YOfZQXy-01192-00260767-00260951 occur to you that there's maybe someone _Dg6YOfZQXy-01193-00260952-00261191 out there who can who can maybe help so _Dg6YOfZQXy-01194-00261192-00261375 you're kind of stuck with yourself and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01195-00261376-00261510 all that isolation and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01196-00261511-00261694 and all that loneliness which just makes _Dg6YOfZQXy-01197-00261696-00261882 things worse _Dg6YOfZQXy-01198-00261883-00262134 um there was um _Dg6YOfZQXy-01199-00262135-00262367 as i mentioned before one of the woman _Dg6YOfZQXy-01200-00262368-00262495 who was killed this year _Dg6YOfZQXy-01201-00262496-00262887 her name is actually her case kind of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01202-00262888-00263119 blew up the street i think first because _Dg6YOfZQXy-01203-00263120-00263303 we knew her name often we don't know the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01204-00263304-00263471 names of the women because they they _Dg6YOfZQXy-01205-00263472-00263727 keep them secret basically _Dg6YOfZQXy-01206-00263728-00263895 second because there was a video that _Dg6YOfZQXy-01207-00263896-00264110 went viral of her screaming in the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01208-00264111-00264263 street trying to run away from her _Dg6YOfZQXy-01209-00264264-00264343 father _Dg6YOfZQXy-01210-00264344-00264606 so there was a lot of factors that made _Dg6YOfZQXy-01211-00264607-00264806 this case very strong and it was _Dg6YOfZQXy-01212-00264807-00265055 in july in a moment where people were _Dg6YOfZQXy-01213-00265056-00265175 extremely tired _Dg6YOfZQXy-01214-00265176-00265495 we the whole act of all activist circles _Dg6YOfZQXy-01215-00265496-00265703 the the women out there who feel _Dg6YOfZQXy-01216-00265704-00265863 strongly about these issues _Dg6YOfZQXy-01217-00265864-00266103 civil society actors we were just _Dg6YOfZQXy-01218-00266104-00266255 extremely angry _Dg6YOfZQXy-01219-00266256-00266558 very tired so what we did is that _Dg6YOfZQXy-01220-00266559-00266719 despite lockdown we took it to the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01221-00266720-00266958 street um _Dg6YOfZQXy-01222-00266959-00267182 and being in the street did not solve _Dg6YOfZQXy-01223-00267183-00267263 the issue _Dg6YOfZQXy-01224-00267264-00267479 and did not necessarily bring many _Dg6YOfZQXy-01225-00267480-00267679 changes it was more for us the space to _Dg6YOfZQXy-01226-00267680-00267823 just be out there _Dg6YOfZQXy-01227-00267824-00268182 and scream it out um _Dg6YOfZQXy-01228-00268183-00268510 but what it did is that after that _Dg6YOfZQXy-01229-00268511-00268882 buzz that happened after the killing of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01230-00268883-00269071 ahlam _Dg6YOfZQXy-01231-00269072-00269343 is that the family protection department _Dg6YOfZQXy-01232-00269344-00269487 which is the department _Dg6YOfZQXy-01233-00269488-00269910 the department that receives that deals _Dg6YOfZQXy-01234-00269911-00270279 with domestic violence violence cases _Dg6YOfZQXy-01235-00270280-00270582 and women killings cases they announced _Dg6YOfZQXy-01236-00270583-00270743 that there would be a re _Dg6YOfZQXy-01237-00270744-00271047 restructuring of the of the institution _Dg6YOfZQXy-01238-00271048-00271351 um so that they can respond better to _Dg6YOfZQXy-01239-00271352-00271615 to to these problems but unfortunately _Dg6YOfZQXy-01240-00271616-00271727 since then we have _Dg6YOfZQXy-01241-00271728-00271871 we do not have updates and there are _Dg6YOfZQXy-01242-00271872-00272134 many voices in the and um _Dg6YOfZQXy-01243-00272135-00272399 of feminist activists were saying it _Dg6YOfZQXy-01244-00272400-00272471 cannot _Dg6YOfZQXy-01245-00272472-00272655 the restructuring is not enough because _Dg6YOfZQXy-01246-00272656-00272871 there needs to be much more to that it's _Dg6YOfZQXy-01247-00272872-00273023 not about one institution it's about a _Dg6YOfZQXy-01248-00273024-00273230 whole mentality it's about a connection _Dg6YOfZQXy-01249-00273231-00273447 between civil society and governmental _Dg6YOfZQXy-01250-00273448-00273639 institutions about political will _Dg6YOfZQXy-01251-00273640-00273903 or let's say absence of political will _Dg6YOfZQXy-01252-00273904-00274079 to change these things _Dg6YOfZQXy-01253-00274080-00274482 um one last thing i wanted to say _Dg6YOfZQXy-01254-00274483-00274758 um is that there was um _Dg6YOfZQXy-01255-00274759-00274982 there was a victory that i would like to _Dg6YOfZQXy-01256-00274983-00275143 celebrate is that _Dg6YOfZQXy-01257-00275144-00275447 um one civil society actor an _Dg6YOfZQXy-01258-00275448-00275671 institution called sadaka _Dg6YOfZQXy-01259-00275672-00276087 who um support um _Dg6YOfZQXy-01260-00276088-00276415 um who push and lobby for _Dg6YOfZQXy-01261-00276416-00276743 um get for _Dg6YOfZQXy-01262-00276744-00277103 children care in different workplaces _Dg6YOfZQXy-01263-00277104-00277455 um they work very hard twice this year _Dg6YOfZQXy-01264-00277456-00277687 uh during the first time the first um _Dg6YOfZQXy-01265-00277688-00277839 part of the lockdown and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01266-00277840-00278151 um from march to july let's say _Dg6YOfZQXy-01267-00278152-00278334 when nurseries were closed but then at _Dg6YOfZQXy-01268-00278335-00278567 some point nurses in kindergarten but _Dg6YOfZQXy-01269-00278568-00278663 then at some point _Dg6YOfZQXy-01270-00278664-00278903 um people were allowed again to go back _Dg6YOfZQXy-01271-00278904-00278975 to their work _Dg6YOfZQXy-01272-00278976-00279134 but nurseries and kindergarten were _Dg6YOfZQXy-01273-00279135-00279287 still close the women could not _Dg6YOfZQXy-01274-00279288-00279463 they did not have a place to actually _Dg6YOfZQXy-01275-00279464-00279647 where they could leave their children _Dg6YOfZQXy-01276-00279648-00279782 when they go to work _Dg6YOfZQXy-01277-00279783-00279975 and so that institution with a lot of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01278-00279976-00280182 other civil society actors and activists _Dg6YOfZQXy-01279-00280183-00280327 pushed for _Dg6YOfZQXy-01280-00280328-00280527 um and lobbied and talked to the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01281-00280528-00280647 government _Dg6YOfZQXy-01282-00280648-00280982 and pushed it to reopen the nurseries _Dg6YOfZQXy-01283-00280983-00281239 and they had to do it twice because um _Dg6YOfZQXy-01284-00281240-00281287 again _Dg6YOfZQXy-01285-00281288-00281534 in october we had a change of government _Dg6YOfZQXy-01286-00281535-00281695 so the new government again _Dg6YOfZQXy-01287-00281696-00281927 closed the nurseries in kindergarten but _Dg6YOfZQXy-01288-00281928-00282087 thanks to public pressure and their _Dg6YOfZQXy-01289-00282088-00282230 tremendous work and their _Dg6YOfZQXy-01290-00282231-00282455 beautiful organizing they were able to _Dg6YOfZQXy-01291-00282456-00282543 reopen _Dg6YOfZQXy-01292-00282544-00282775 not both nurseries and kindergarten but _Dg6YOfZQXy-01293-00282776-00282934 at least nurseries which helped a lot of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01294-00282935-00283143 women _Dg6YOfZQXy-01295-00283144-00283327 and unfortunately i say a woman because _Dg6YOfZQXy-01296-00283328-00283655 men are still not part of this gig _Dg6YOfZQXy-01297-00283656-00283951 to be able to juggle both work and child _Dg6YOfZQXy-01298-00283952-00284367 care _Dg6YOfZQXy-01299-00284368-00284734 well thank you christina um _Dg6YOfZQXy-01300-00284735-00284934 before before we come to india i just _Dg6YOfZQXy-01301-00284935-00285071 want to say guys _Dg6YOfZQXy-01302-00285072-00285663 watching at home please questions _Dg6YOfZQXy-01303-00285664-00285871 so if something is unclear or you want _Dg6YOfZQXy-01304-00285872-00286030 to have something explained a little bit _Dg6YOfZQXy-01305-00286031-00286119 more _Dg6YOfZQXy-01306-00286120-00286479 um it's a time to uh get it out of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01307-00286480-00286591 yourselves and uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-01308-00286592-00286910 post a question okay so hajika what is _Dg6YOfZQXy-01309-00286911-00286967 your _Dg6YOfZQXy-01310-00286968-00287351 take on on these situations in india _Dg6YOfZQXy-01311-00287352-00287591 what kind of government policies did _Dg6YOfZQXy-01312-00287592-00287782 work in some way and where did actually _Dg6YOfZQXy-01313-00287783-00288006 civil society had to step in and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01314-00288007-00288782 do their jobs _Dg6YOfZQXy-01315-00288783-00289087 yeah um see given the scale of how _Dg6YOfZQXy-01316-00289088-00289279 things were unfolding in india post _Dg6YOfZQXy-01317-00289280-00289375 pandemic _Dg6YOfZQXy-01318-00289376-00289582 be it in terms of the number of cases _Dg6YOfZQXy-01319-00289583-00289791 that were rising as well as _Dg6YOfZQXy-01320-00289792-00290079 the lockdown as a health strategy uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-01321-00290080-00290158 though _Dg6YOfZQXy-01322-00290159-00290519 you know what the the human crisis that _Dg6YOfZQXy-01323-00290520-00290615 was emerging _Dg6YOfZQXy-01324-00290616-00290927 required uh basically and it continues _Dg6YOfZQXy-01325-00290928-00291282 to require a huge kind of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01326-00291283-00291647 effort so uh there are but before that _Dg6YOfZQXy-01327-00291648-00291791 it's important to understand see what _Dg6YOfZQXy-01328-00291792-00291975 kind of policy measures were taking _Dg6YOfZQXy-01329-00291976-00292030 place _Dg6YOfZQXy-01330-00292031-00292215 so one was of course the health lockdown _Dg6YOfZQXy-01331-00292216-00292351 itself the other _Dg6YOfZQXy-01332-00292352-00292551 is the the fact that you know the health _Dg6YOfZQXy-01333-00292552-00292687 system um _Dg6YOfZQXy-01334-00292688-00293047 was working uh extremely hard and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01335-00293048-00293206 a lot of women are involved in this _Dg6YOfZQXy-01336-00293207-00293382 health work and primarily _Dg6YOfZQXy-01337-00293383-00293751 it uh the backbone of this of ensuring _Dg6YOfZQXy-01338-00293752-00293806 that _Dg6YOfZQXy-01339-00293807-00294047 uh the quarantine centers were working _Dg6YOfZQXy-01340-00294048-00294127 ensuring that _Dg6YOfZQXy-01341-00294128-00294334 you know surveys were done to identify _Dg6YOfZQXy-01342-00294335-00294551 the people to take the messages to _Dg6YOfZQXy-01343-00294552-00294758 you know to take the message of how to _Dg6YOfZQXy-01344-00294759-00294958 maintain _Dg6YOfZQXy-01345-00294959-00295303 you know social safe distancing and uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-01346-00295304-00295479 it was being done by scheme workers _Dg6YOfZQXy-01347-00295480-00295615 which are primarily _Dg6YOfZQXy-01348-00295616-00295927 you know women who are not paid a wage _Dg6YOfZQXy-01349-00295928-00296119 but are paid honorariums _Dg6YOfZQXy-01350-00296120-00296343 so the thing is uh and the whole health _Dg6YOfZQXy-01351-00296344-00296527 system is working under _Dg6YOfZQXy-01352-00296528-00296799 uh you know with the infrastructure _Dg6YOfZQXy-01353-00296800-00296958 which has been weakened by years of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01354-00296959-00297087 neoliberalism _Dg6YOfZQXy-01355-00297088-00297375 so the you know so the so there is this _Dg6YOfZQXy-01356-00297376-00297567 response that is happening through this _Dg6YOfZQXy-01357-00297568-00297799 but there are of course state specific _Dg6YOfZQXy-01358-00297800-00297967 differences say for instance in the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01359-00297968-00298103 state of kerala _Dg6YOfZQXy-01360-00298104-00298406 uh which has a left government there uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-01361-00298407-00298503 there were _Dg6YOfZQXy-01362-00298504-00298806 and uh the more feminist approach _Dg6YOfZQXy-01363-00298807-00299119 to uh healthcare was visible _Dg6YOfZQXy-01364-00299120-00299406 but uh across the country otherwise uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-01365-00299407-00299527 the general ten _Dg6YOfZQXy-01366-00299528-00299695 there have been some specific patterns _Dg6YOfZQXy-01367-00299696-00299863 but otherwise overall _Dg6YOfZQXy-01368-00299864-00300063 the scale could not match up the kind of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01369-00300064-00300327 crisis that has emerged _Dg6YOfZQXy-01370-00300328-00300527 and unfortunately what has happened in _Dg6YOfZQXy-01371-00300528-00300823 the parallely is the continuation of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01372-00300824-00301127 you know business as usual as far as new _Dg6YOfZQXy-01373-00301128-00301295 liberal agendas are concerned _Dg6YOfZQXy-01374-00301296-00301558 so there have been a lot of ordinances _Dg6YOfZQXy-01375-00301559-00301606 and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01376-00301607-00301782 through non-parliamentary democratic _Dg6YOfZQXy-01377-00301783-00302071 procedures by introduction of labor laws _Dg6YOfZQXy-01378-00302072-00302343 or the laws that impact farmers or even _Dg6YOfZQXy-01379-00302344-00302430 education _Dg6YOfZQXy-01380-00302431-00302751 which has kind of uh has deep and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01381-00302752-00303006 long lasting impact on the lives of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01382-00303007-00303063 women _Dg6YOfZQXy-01383-00303064-00303358 workers women peasants women uh and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01384-00303359-00303430 women in the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01385-00303431-00303567 you know women trying to access _Dg6YOfZQXy-01386-00303568-00303830 education in employment in future _Dg6YOfZQXy-01387-00303831-00304047 uh the also what has happened is the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01388-00304048-00304206 kind of money as i've mentioned earlier _Dg6YOfZQXy-01389-00304207-00304399 the money is being put at the top rather _Dg6YOfZQXy-01390-00304400-00304534 than at the bottom where _Dg6YOfZQXy-01391-00304535-00304782 you know where it would have uh helped _Dg6YOfZQXy-01392-00304783-00304991 in actually reviving an economy which _Dg6YOfZQXy-01393-00304992-00305182 had got divested devastated post _Dg6YOfZQXy-01394-00305183-00305495 lockdown so uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-01395-00305496-00305703 you know so what we do you know there _Dg6YOfZQXy-01396-00305704-00305830 are and there are a couple of things _Dg6YOfZQXy-01397-00305831-00305951 that we need to remember _Dg6YOfZQXy-01398-00305952-00306167 uh before i mean before i speak about _Dg6YOfZQXy-01399-00306168-00306351 exactly what kind of strategies did _Dg6YOfZQXy-01400-00306352-00306679 people did come up with you know say uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-01401-00306680-00306927 the while the state lockdown itself kind _Dg6YOfZQXy-01402-00306928-00307047 of failed what _Dg6YOfZQXy-01403-00307048-00307223 is notable is that there was also been _Dg6YOfZQXy-01404-00307224-00307399 an inconsistent stance _Dg6YOfZQXy-01405-00307400-00307639 as far as kovid is concerned so you know _Dg6YOfZQXy-01406-00307640-00307743 for instance _Dg6YOfZQXy-01407-00307744-00307991 uh when put when it was put it you know _Dg6YOfZQXy-01408-00307992-00308110 there was a lot of there's been a lot of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01409-00308111-00308279 political maneuvering during the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01410-00308280-00308358 pandemic _Dg6YOfZQXy-01411-00308359-00308599 and it is as if the kobe did not exist _Dg6YOfZQXy-01412-00308600-00308782 when you know something like elections _Dg6YOfZQXy-01413-00308783-00308951 had to be held or large gatherings for _Dg6YOfZQXy-01414-00308952-00309095 political agendas _Dg6YOfZQXy-01415-00309096-00309375 that suited the ruling government uh had _Dg6YOfZQXy-01416-00309376-00309534 to take place be it like the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01417-00309535-00309839 laying the foundation of a temple so _Dg6YOfZQXy-01418-00309840-00309991 for this you know large gatherings were _Dg6YOfZQXy-01419-00309992-00310167 taking place so what actually has _Dg6YOfZQXy-01420-00310168-00310263 happened is the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01421-00310264-00310575 you know it has been left _Dg6YOfZQXy-01422-00310576-00310815 the kovit 19 appears to exist only in _Dg6YOfZQXy-01423-00310816-00310999 hospitals and left to healthcare workers _Dg6YOfZQXy-01424-00311000-00311191 to deal with or it has been used for _Dg6YOfZQXy-01425-00311192-00311382 communal coloring or for declaring _Dg6YOfZQXy-01426-00311383-00311543 protests as illegal _Dg6YOfZQXy-01427-00311544-00311791 no what and what has happened as a _Dg6YOfZQXy-01428-00311792-00311934 result is there has been an increasing _Dg6YOfZQXy-01429-00311935-00312054 skepticism _Dg6YOfZQXy-01430-00312055-00312415 about about the existence of kobe itself _Dg6YOfZQXy-01431-00312416-00312647 and until death has come to the doorstep _Dg6YOfZQXy-01432-00312648-00312799 and a large number of deaths have _Dg6YOfZQXy-01433-00312800-00312863 happened _Dg6YOfZQXy-01434-00312864-00313182 so uh but because of the the this coming _Dg6YOfZQXy-01435-00313183-00313263 together of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01436-00313264-00313495 uh you know of political maneuvering _Dg6YOfZQXy-01437-00313496-00313647 over over kobit _Dg6YOfZQXy-01438-00313648-00313903 as well as this policy which of la of of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01439-00313904-00314054 lockdown which kind of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01440-00314055-00314391 failed uh along with uh the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01441-00314392-00314503 health infrastructure which was _Dg6YOfZQXy-01442-00314504-00314710 collapsing things have been _Dg6YOfZQXy-01443-00314711-00314910 really difficult unfortunately _Dg6YOfZQXy-01444-00314911-00315247 unnecessary you know um at the same time _Dg6YOfZQXy-01445-00315248-00315430 there have been necessary measures _Dg6YOfZQXy-01446-00315431-00315630 like you know food and they are you know _Dg6YOfZQXy-01447-00315631-00315775 midday meal schemes _Dg6YOfZQXy-01448-00315776-00315951 which kind of ensure that children got _Dg6YOfZQXy-01449-00315952-00316143 food at home uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-01450-00316144-00316358 food and food in the afternoon food from _Dg6YOfZQXy-01451-00316359-00316575 the school uh which ensured that their _Dg6YOfZQXy-01452-00316576-00316734 you know their nutritions were taken _Dg6YOfZQXy-01453-00316735-00316815 care of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01454-00316816-00317006 some of this has suffered as a result of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01455-00317007-00317199 the lockdown and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01456-00317200-00317382 as a result of the pandemic shutdown of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01457-00317383-00317551 schools so and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01458-00317552-00317823 um the girl children have particularly _Dg6YOfZQXy-01459-00317824-00318006 suffered as they've been denied _Dg6YOfZQXy-01460-00318007-00318239 meals they've been denied education _Dg6YOfZQXy-01461-00318240-00318334 they've been denied _Dg6YOfZQXy-01462-00318335-00318575 the access to education which especially _Dg6YOfZQXy-01463-00318576-00318751 children girls from poorer working _Dg6YOfZQXy-01464-00318752-00319054 backgrounds so i mean _Dg6YOfZQXy-01465-00319055-00319254 while there's this huge thing that is in _Dg6YOfZQXy-01466-00319255-00319463 front of us uh there are being _Dg6YOfZQXy-01467-00319464-00319663 at another level we do find there having _Dg6YOfZQXy-01468-00319664-00319854 practices you know particularly _Dg6YOfZQXy-01469-00319855-00320095 um you know specific state specific _Dg6YOfZQXy-01470-00320096-00320239 responses in healthcare _Dg6YOfZQXy-01471-00320240-00320471 but uh as far as the civil society is _Dg6YOfZQXy-01472-00320472-00320599 concerned and deaf past _Dg6YOfZQXy-01473-00320600-00320823 organizations or women's organizations _Dg6YOfZQXy-01474-00320824-00320943 their work towards _Dg6YOfZQXy-01475-00320944-00321143 you know mitigating some of the damage _Dg6YOfZQXy-01476-00321144-00321279 that have been done by _Dg6YOfZQXy-01477-00321280-00321495 and the policies that have hurt workers _Dg6YOfZQXy-01478-00321496-00321687 i think this is important because _Dg6YOfZQXy-01479-00321688-00321982 uh you know the as i mentioned the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01480-00321983-00322199 remedy was worse than the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01481-00322200-00322599 than the illness itself and um _Dg6YOfZQXy-01482-00322600-00322830 when workers were marching back to the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01483-00322831-00322903 going back _Dg6YOfZQXy-01484-00322904-00323134 to the villages there's been a lot _Dg6YOfZQXy-01485-00323135-00323263 there's been a lot of work _Dg6YOfZQXy-01486-00323264-00323479 from civil society and mass _Dg6YOfZQXy-01487-00323480-00323671 organizations for organizing relief for _Dg6YOfZQXy-01488-00323672-00323830 those who lost their livelihood _Dg6YOfZQXy-01489-00323831-00323943 livelihood _Dg6YOfZQXy-01490-00323944-00324239 beat ensuring that ensuring food and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01491-00324240-00324439 ration to the homes of people _Dg6YOfZQXy-01492-00324440-00324775 of workers and ensuring that shelter was _Dg6YOfZQXy-01493-00324776-00324863 available to _Dg6YOfZQXy-01494-00324864-00325110 women uh that medicines were available _Dg6YOfZQXy-01495-00325111-00325167 masks _Dg6YOfZQXy-01496-00325168-00325447 where masks were made available and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01497-00325448-00325639 mostly through public collection and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01498-00325640-00325847 mobilization of funds so all these were _Dg6YOfZQXy-01499-00325848-00325991 voluntary efforts and you know _Dg6YOfZQXy-01500-00325992-00326103 spontaneously _Dg6YOfZQXy-01501-00326104-00326327 it was beautiful at one level because _Dg6YOfZQXy-01502-00326328-00326406 people _Dg6YOfZQXy-01503-00326407-00326734 what did come out during the during this _Dg6YOfZQXy-01504-00326735-00326903 extreme moment of crisis _Dg6YOfZQXy-01505-00326904-00327115 was people's own humanity and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01506-00327116-00327358 recognizing the values of concern and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01507-00327359-00327423 care _Dg6YOfZQXy-01508-00327424-00327615 in such important feminist values that _Dg6YOfZQXy-01509-00327616-00327847 way in the larger _Dg6YOfZQXy-01510-00327848-00328230 you know larger mass of people _Dg6YOfZQXy-01511-00328231-00328406 and uh people were all you know they've _Dg6YOfZQXy-01512-00328407-00328582 been efforts to organize _Dg6YOfZQXy-01513-00328583-00328863 transport to get workers back organizing _Dg6YOfZQXy-01514-00328864-00329015 temporary shelters _Dg6YOfZQXy-01515-00329016-00329310 um you know at the this is this has been _Dg6YOfZQXy-01516-00329311-00329375 in terms of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01517-00329376-00329599 more more in terms of providing relief _Dg6YOfZQXy-01518-00329600-00329710 on the other hand there have _Dg6YOfZQXy-01519-00329711-00329951 also been efforts to provide better you _Dg6YOfZQXy-01520-00329952-00330134 know mobilizing the workers _Dg6YOfZQXy-01521-00330135-00330358 uh for relief getting better quarantined _Dg6YOfZQXy-01522-00330359-00330519 in health facilities getting separate _Dg6YOfZQXy-01523-00330520-00330727 quarantine facilities for women _Dg6YOfZQXy-01524-00330728-00331047 keeping in need their uh you know their _Dg6YOfZQXy-01525-00331048-00331230 health and hygiene concerns _Dg6YOfZQXy-01526-00331231-00331527 and organizing you know also there have _Dg6YOfZQXy-01527-00331528-00331695 been efforts to organize the health _Dg6YOfZQXy-01528-00331696-00331878 workers as i mentioned a large _Dg6YOfZQXy-01529-00331879-00332047 number of the steam workers who have _Dg6YOfZQXy-01530-00332048-00332182 been the bill you know _Dg6YOfZQXy-01531-00332183-00332439 the asha workers they've been the pillar _Dg6YOfZQXy-01532-00332440-00332519 of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01533-00332520-00332854 health uh you know during the kobe times _Dg6YOfZQXy-01534-00332855-00333063 so organizing them has been an important _Dg6YOfZQXy-01535-00333064-00333215 part because they have put their lives _Dg6YOfZQXy-01536-00333216-00333303 on danger _Dg6YOfZQXy-01537-00333304-00333439 and they're working under extremely _Dg6YOfZQXy-01538-00333440-00333663 harsh conditions without salaries _Dg6YOfZQXy-01539-00333664-00333919 just you know just for an honorarium and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01540-00333920-00334030 uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-01541-00334031-00334230 organizing them ensuring that their _Dg6YOfZQXy-01542-00334231-00334463 health care has been is also taken care _Dg6YOfZQXy-01543-00334464-00334519 of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01544-00334520-00334791 ensuring that they're that they are _Dg6YOfZQXy-01545-00334792-00334951 mobilized uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-01546-00334952-00335223 that that that they also have they are _Dg6YOfZQXy-01547-00335224-00335310 able to take _Dg6YOfZQXy-01548-00335311-00335575 um that they were able to work with _Dg6YOfZQXy-01549-00335576-00335727 adequate motivation _Dg6YOfZQXy-01550-00335728-00335910 uh and that can only happen if they're _Dg6YOfZQXy-01551-00335911-00336054 organized and struggle for their own _Dg6YOfZQXy-01552-00336055-00336127 rights _Dg6YOfZQXy-01553-00336128-00336382 so this has been an important part of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01554-00336383-00336591 the uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-01555-00336592-00336910 of women's movement also because uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-01556-00336911-00337087 especially because the asha workers or _Dg6YOfZQXy-01557-00337088-00337254 the scheme workers who are providing _Dg6YOfZQXy-01558-00337255-00337327 health _Dg6YOfZQXy-01559-00337328-00337510 they are i mean they're entirely all _Dg6YOfZQXy-01560-00337511-00337734 they're entirely women _Dg6YOfZQXy-01561-00337735-00337927 uh they have been as you know see at _Dg6YOfZQXy-01562-00337928-00338054 another level _Dg6YOfZQXy-01563-00338055-00338310 an important part of this response _Dg6YOfZQXy-01564-00338311-00338503 feminist response to _Dg6YOfZQXy-01565-00338504-00338678 uh women's and women's movements _Dg6YOfZQXy-01566-00338679-00338830 response to _Dg6YOfZQXy-01567-00338831-00339015 uh the pandemic has been the you know _Dg6YOfZQXy-01568-00339016-00339263 working towards visibilizing the role of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01569-00339264-00339334 women _Dg6YOfZQXy-01570-00339335-00339591 you know visibilizing the women worker _Dg6YOfZQXy-01571-00339592-00339799 the migrant woman worker _Dg6YOfZQXy-01572-00339800-00340006 uh because who were they were invisible _Dg6YOfZQXy-01573-00340007-00340230 in media they were invisible in policy _Dg6YOfZQXy-01574-00340231-00340391 they were invisible in public _Dg6YOfZQXy-01575-00340392-00340534 perceptions but _Dg6YOfZQXy-01576-00340535-00340687 you know visibilizing them is an _Dg6YOfZQXy-01577-00340688-00340863 important part of ensuring that _Dg6YOfZQXy-01578-00340864-00341134 policy takes care policy responses _Dg6YOfZQXy-01579-00341135-00341230 happen _Dg6YOfZQXy-01580-00341231-00341567 so that has been uh another area of work _Dg6YOfZQXy-01581-00341568-00341782 and uh there have been other at other _Dg6YOfZQXy-01582-00341783-00341975 levels as in you know there have been of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01583-00341976-00342078 course cases in _Dg6YOfZQXy-01584-00342079-00342295 trying to do what can be done in terms _Dg6YOfZQXy-01585-00342296-00342503 of you know responses to the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01586-00342504-00342775 you know offering support for domestic _Dg6YOfZQXy-01587-00342776-00342847 violence _Dg6YOfZQXy-01588-00342848-00343039 to victims of domestic violence and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01589-00343040-00343303 assaults and you know mobilizing for _Dg6YOfZQXy-01590-00343304-00343503 shelters but this has been difficult _Dg6YOfZQXy-01591-00343504-00343678 because a large part of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01592-00343679-00343863 because of confinements of activists _Dg6YOfZQXy-01593-00343864-00344023 themselves within the house _Dg6YOfZQXy-01594-00344024-00344358 and declining democratic spaces _Dg6YOfZQXy-01595-00344359-00344678 because of the log lockdown and so a lot _Dg6YOfZQXy-01596-00344679-00344878 of it has to have had to be done _Dg6YOfZQXy-01597-00344879-00345263 online at the other end just uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-01598-00345264-00345423 there is another important thing that _Dg6YOfZQXy-01599-00345424-00345591 has happened which is the visibilizing _Dg6YOfZQXy-01600-00345592-00345639 of the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01601-00345640-00345903 work that women do in the care sector _Dg6YOfZQXy-01602-00345904-00345958 what has _Dg6YOfZQXy-01603-00345959-00346215 clearly come out is the important role _Dg6YOfZQXy-01604-00346216-00346358 that women have played in the health _Dg6YOfZQXy-01605-00346359-00346430 sector _Dg6YOfZQXy-01606-00346431-00346687 and women have played uh you know in in _Dg6YOfZQXy-01607-00346688-00346734 say _Dg6YOfZQXy-01608-00346735-00346975 in the education sector uh because these _Dg6YOfZQXy-01609-00346976-00347119 are things that have kept functioning _Dg6YOfZQXy-01610-00347120-00347271 even during the lockdown _Dg6YOfZQXy-01611-00347272-00347551 and also the importance of domestic work _Dg6YOfZQXy-01612-00347552-00347743 uh has got highlighted uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-01613-00347744-00348087 in in this period so um this has been _Dg6YOfZQXy-01614-00348088-00348430 this has been uh visibilizing women _Dg6YOfZQXy-01615-00348431-00348734 and women's role mobilizing them for _Dg6YOfZQXy-01616-00348735-00349030 on on on rights has been an important _Dg6YOfZQXy-01617-00349031-00349103 part _Dg6YOfZQXy-01618-00349104-00349399 yet another important area has been _Dg6YOfZQXy-01619-00349400-00349454 because _Dg6YOfZQXy-01620-00349455-00349647 the because of the shrinking democratic _Dg6YOfZQXy-01621-00349648-00349791 spaces the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01622-00349792-00350103 uh women's participation uh you know the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01623-00350104-00350247 the protests and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01624-00350248-00350495 uh and the mobilizations have seen _Dg6YOfZQXy-01625-00350496-00350703 increa _Dg6YOfZQXy-01626-00350704-00350967 any any be for democratic rights have _Dg6YOfZQXy-01627-00350968-00351182 seen increasing participation of women _Dg6YOfZQXy-01628-00351183-00351406 you know women peasants are coming out _Dg6YOfZQXy-01629-00351407-00351623 as in recent you know as in the recent _Dg6YOfZQXy-01630-00351624-00351678 weeks _Dg6YOfZQXy-01631-00351679-00351854 there are hundreds of the hundreds and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01632-00351855-00351991 thousands of women who are _Dg6YOfZQXy-01633-00351992-00352287 uh there in the in the farmer's protest _Dg6YOfZQXy-01634-00352288-00352334 uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-01635-00352335-00352695 and these and this visibilization is an _Dg6YOfZQXy-01636-00352696-00352882 important part of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01637-00352883-00353206 of um of you know _Dg6YOfZQXy-01638-00353207-00353503 of coming to terms of the the public _Dg6YOfZQXy-01639-00353504-00353615 perceptions _Dg6YOfZQXy-01640-00353616-00353767 uh you know coming to terms with the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01641-00353768-00353975 fact that women are farmers women are _Dg6YOfZQXy-01642-00353976-00354127 workers women are _Dg6YOfZQXy-01643-00354128-00354406 uh you know are providing health uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-01644-00354407-00354551 providing education _Dg6YOfZQXy-01645-00354552-00354719 and they are and they're probably doing _Dg6YOfZQXy-01646-00354720-00354887 the most important work which nobody _Dg6YOfZQXy-01647-00354888-00355015 wanted to see _Dg6YOfZQXy-01648-00355016-00355351 and i think uh this has been mobilizing _Dg6YOfZQXy-01649-00355352-00355551 and visibilizing and organizing has been _Dg6YOfZQXy-01650-00355552-00355678 an important part _Dg6YOfZQXy-01651-00355679-00355887 of the of some of some of the important _Dg6YOfZQXy-01652-00355888-00356143 feminist work that has happened _Dg6YOfZQXy-01653-00356144-00356399 well thank you i think that's something _Dg6YOfZQXy-01654-00356400-00356454 we can _Dg6YOfZQXy-01655-00356455-00356806 definitely reflect on um _Dg6YOfZQXy-01656-00356807-00356982 especially also now the last round of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01657-00356983-00357134 questions where we're actually getting _Dg6YOfZQXy-01658-00357135-00357199 to _Dg6YOfZQXy-01659-00357200-00357367 i think what would be so interesting to _Dg6YOfZQXy-01660-00357368-00357567 discuss with the three of you _Dg6YOfZQXy-01661-00357568-00357806 like what what would you say actually _Dg6YOfZQXy-01662-00357807-00357934 what you have learned _Dg6YOfZQXy-01663-00357935-00358215 out of your own activist work or _Dg6YOfZQXy-01664-00358216-00358430 feminist activist work or what you saw _Dg6YOfZQXy-01665-00358431-00358623 in your organizations or other _Dg6YOfZQXy-01666-00358624-00358806 organizations in this pandemic i mean _Dg6YOfZQXy-01667-00358807-00358854 what _Dg6YOfZQXy-01668-00358855-00359143 what kind of actually knowledge uh or _Dg6YOfZQXy-01669-00359144-00359206 lessons _Dg6YOfZQXy-01670-00359207-00359423 uh could you could you share you know _Dg6YOfZQXy-01671-00359424-00359591 with activists in other countries _Dg6YOfZQXy-01672-00359592-00359751 especially maybe from the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01673-00359752-00359943 global north you know because normally _Dg6YOfZQXy-01674-00359944-00360078 there is this kind of like _Dg6YOfZQXy-01675-00360079-00360399 knowledge transfer uh from north 2000 _Dg6YOfZQXy-01676-00360400-00360503 and i think it's so much more _Dg6YOfZQXy-01677-00360504-00360663 interesting to maybe think it also the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01678-00360664-00360751 other way around _Dg6YOfZQXy-01679-00360752-00360975 and what what can we actually learn from _Dg6YOfZQXy-01680-00360976-00361063 from these _Dg6YOfZQXy-01681-00361064-00361406 uh organizations um that you guys _Dg6YOfZQXy-01682-00361407-00361654 uh have or that you that you know so _Dg6YOfZQXy-01683-00361655-00361727 well _Dg6YOfZQXy-01684-00361728-00361919 and uh well again we can maybe start _Dg6YOfZQXy-01685-00361920-00362078 with uh anieli _Dg6YOfZQXy-01686-00362079-00362463 who i also know has to leave us soon _Dg6YOfZQXy-01687-00362464-00362654 so maybe you can tell us a little bit _Dg6YOfZQXy-01688-00362655-00362823 about like the lessons learned maybe of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01689-00362824-00363039 the marielle franco institute or _Dg6YOfZQXy-01690-00363040-00363310 other institutions um that you want to _Dg6YOfZQXy-01691-00363311-00363423 talk about _Dg6YOfZQXy-01692-00363424-00363671 and what we could uh yeah kind of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01693-00363672-00363975 knowledge you could share with us _Dg6YOfZQXy-01694-00363976-00364327 yeah um after they had killed my sister _Dg6YOfZQXy-01695-00364328-00364647 in 2018 i would say that all my _Dg6YOfZQXy-01696-00364648-00364734 experience and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01697-00364735-00365087 knowledge come from this point on _Dg6YOfZQXy-01698-00365088-00365487 you know because we had to restructure _Dg6YOfZQXy-01699-00365488-00365791 our minds the way we work _Dg6YOfZQXy-01700-00365792-00366167 to be more worried about our government _Dg6YOfZQXy-01701-00366168-00366406 and things that they would do with us _Dg6YOfZQXy-01702-00366407-00366591 feminists _Dg6YOfZQXy-01703-00366592-00366919 and when 2001 arrived we had _Dg6YOfZQXy-01704-00366920-00367206 a whole new idea in mind to do a lot of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01705-00367207-00367263 stuff _Dg6YOfZQXy-01706-00367264-00367623 but we had to change the key and start _Dg6YOfZQXy-01707-00367624-00367703 doing something _Dg6YOfZQXy-01708-00367704-00368151 else one thing that i've learned _Dg6YOfZQXy-01709-00368152-00368487 was that civil society organizations _Dg6YOfZQXy-01710-00368488-00368758 have to come together every time _Dg6YOfZQXy-01711-00368759-00368919 especially when we're talking about _Dg6YOfZQXy-01712-00368920-00369063 feminists and feminists _Dg6YOfZQXy-01713-00369064-00369415 because we have a government that don't _Dg6YOfZQXy-01714-00369416-00369503 look for us _Dg6YOfZQXy-01715-00369504-00369806 you know they they don't look at us _Dg6YOfZQXy-01716-00369807-00370030 and they don't like feminists and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01717-00370031-00370158 whatever they can do _Dg6YOfZQXy-01718-00370159-00370439 to avoid us to be in power or to be in _Dg6YOfZQXy-01719-00370440-00370510 charge _Dg6YOfZQXy-01720-00370511-00370830 they will do this year we had the first _Dg6YOfZQXy-01721-00370831-00371054 municipal election after my sister _Dg6YOfZQXy-01722-00371055-00371430 have been died i have been killed _Dg6YOfZQXy-01723-00371431-00371839 and um we got a number _Dg6YOfZQXy-01724-00371840-00372151 of i mean okay number for women who were _Dg6YOfZQXy-01725-00372152-00372287 elected _Dg6YOfZQXy-01726-00372288-00372663 but still we have very few women _Dg6YOfZQXy-01727-00372664-00373039 in power in brazil either in the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01728-00373040-00373247 municipal elections or federal _Dg6YOfZQXy-01729-00373248-00373367 government _Dg6YOfZQXy-01730-00373368-00373727 so hopefully in the future _Dg6YOfZQXy-01731-00373728-00374071 since we now are so i mean _Dg6YOfZQXy-01732-00374072-00374271 not now we've been doing it in a long _Dg6YOfZQXy-01733-00374272-00374502 years for a long time but this year i _Dg6YOfZQXy-01734-00374503-00374599 could see _Dg6YOfZQXy-01735-00374600-00374863 many women organized with us in our _Dg6YOfZQXy-01736-00374864-00374982 organization _Dg6YOfZQXy-01737-00374983-00375271 doing a lot together so maybe in the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01738-00375272-00375358 future _Dg6YOfZQXy-01739-00375359-00375558 we are going to be able to have more _Dg6YOfZQXy-01740-00375559-00375791 women in the politics you know _Dg6YOfZQXy-01741-00375792-00376143 in places of making decisions in place _Dg6YOfZQXy-01742-00376144-00376223 of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01743-00376224-00376487 where they actually can do not only like _Dg6YOfZQXy-01744-00376488-00376719 we did like giving food and etc but _Dg6YOfZQXy-01745-00376720-00376758 doing _Dg6YOfZQXy-01746-00376759-00377078 other stuff but if i had to highlight _Dg6YOfZQXy-01747-00377079-00377319 i would definitely say that being _Dg6YOfZQXy-01748-00377320-00377487 together with those women here _Dg6YOfZQXy-01749-00377488-00377623 especially black women _Dg6YOfZQXy-01750-00377624-00377934 for me was a great experience i learned _Dg6YOfZQXy-01751-00377935-00378030 from them _Dg6YOfZQXy-01752-00378031-00378343 you know and i'm _Dg6YOfZQXy-01753-00378344-00378582 pretty sure that if we don't have come _Dg6YOfZQXy-01754-00378583-00378687 together _Dg6YOfZQXy-01755-00378688-00379015 as feminists even more people _Dg6YOfZQXy-01756-00379016-00379327 would be dying in brazil right now so we _Dg6YOfZQXy-01757-00379328-00379551 work collectively towards our city our _Dg6YOfZQXy-01758-00379552-00379606 community _Dg6YOfZQXy-01759-00379607-00379919 our women our child our children _Dg6YOfZQXy-01760-00379920-00380239 and so on and yeah i hope _Dg6YOfZQXy-01761-00380240-00380463 we can continue doing it and i hope that _Dg6YOfZQXy-01762-00380464-00380551 one day _Dg6YOfZQXy-01763-00380552-00380767 our government will just look for us and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01764-00380768-00380927 look for the country _Dg6YOfZQXy-01765-00380928-00381223 in a different way saying and doing _Dg6YOfZQXy-01766-00381224-00381430 things that could avoid us to be so _Dg6YOfZQXy-01767-00381431-00381799 poor you know and keeping dying _Dg6YOfZQXy-01768-00381800-00382158 every other day over here but yes _Dg6YOfZQXy-01769-00382159-00382351 uh thanks again christina for the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01770-00382352-00382519 invitation thanks again christina and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01771-00382520-00382767 haddika for being here with you guys _Dg6YOfZQXy-01772-00382768-00382895 i'm gonna leave a little bit early _Dg6YOfZQXy-01773-00382896-00383087 because i'm gonna just pick up my _Dg6YOfZQXy-01774-00383088-00383391 father from the hospital he had go with _Dg6YOfZQXy-01775-00383392-00383543 19 and he's been there _Dg6YOfZQXy-01776-00383544-00383863 for now 16 days _Dg6YOfZQXy-01777-00383864-00384054 and they called us like few minutes _Dg6YOfZQXy-01778-00384055-00384206 before we start here _Dg6YOfZQXy-01779-00384207-00384391 to let us know that he can come back _Dg6YOfZQXy-01780-00384392-00384534 home so _Dg6YOfZQXy-01781-00384535-00384663 that's all i'm not gonna say for the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01782-00384664-00384919 questions and but it was a very pleasure _Dg6YOfZQXy-01783-00384920-00385015 to be here _Dg6YOfZQXy-01784-00385016-00385358 and now we've in touch and keep going _Dg6YOfZQXy-01785-00385359-00385582 really thank you thank you so much that _Dg6YOfZQXy-01786-00385583-00385719 you have been here _Dg6YOfZQXy-01787-00385720-00386063 with us and we're so happy to hear the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01788-00386064-00386223 good news about your father _Dg6YOfZQXy-01789-00386224-00386695 and really go okay and take care _Dg6YOfZQXy-01790-00386696-00386863 and thank you all the best for your _Dg6YOfZQXy-01791-00386864-00387015 family okay _Dg6YOfZQXy-01792-00387016-00387695 bye thank you so much bye bye _Dg6YOfZQXy-01793-00387696-00388030 okay um _Dg6YOfZQXy-01794-00388031-00388334 maybe christina you want to continue _Dg6YOfZQXy-01795-00388335-00388663 um with the uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-01796-00388664-00388919 well same topic uh what kind of what _Dg6YOfZQXy-01797-00388920-00389063 kind of lessons learned what kind of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01798-00389064-00389247 advice would you have to share _Dg6YOfZQXy-01799-00389248-00389527 from from what you saw or what you what _Dg6YOfZQXy-01800-00389528-00389839 you did yourself in your organization _Dg6YOfZQXy-01801-00389840-00390206 you know it strikes me to hear um _Dg6YOfZQXy-01802-00390207-00390534 what i was hearing tonight is we are not _Dg6YOfZQXy-01803-00390535-00390606 visible _Dg6YOfZQXy-01804-00390607-00390910 they don't like us and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01805-00390911-00391119 it's true but i think it's not that _Dg6YOfZQXy-01806-00391120-00391343 we're invisible we are very visible we _Dg6YOfZQXy-01807-00391344-00391406 are very _Dg6YOfZQXy-01808-00391407-00391702 loud we've been loud for hundreds of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01809-00391703-00391830 years _Dg6YOfZQXy-01810-00391831-00392054 and we're still talking about in some _Dg6YOfZQXy-01811-00392055-00392206 places the same things _Dg6YOfZQXy-01812-00392207-00392495 women before as we're talking about so _Dg6YOfZQXy-01813-00392496-00392719 i'd call that selective blindness you _Dg6YOfZQXy-01814-00392720-00392934 know and i think i'll start from here _Dg6YOfZQXy-01815-00392935-00393263 i think that before we _Dg6YOfZQXy-01816-00393264-00393447 we give advice to each other and before _Dg6YOfZQXy-01817-00393448-00393639 we see how much we can learn from _Dg6YOfZQXy-01818-00393640-00393727 ourselves _Dg6YOfZQXy-01819-00393728-00393958 i think it's important that we call on _Dg6YOfZQXy-01820-00393959-00394175 those governments that do not like us _Dg6YOfZQXy-01821-00394176-00394334 that do not look like us they _Dg6YOfZQXy-01822-00394335-00394567 that do not think like us to remind them _Dg6YOfZQXy-01823-00394568-00394767 they they do need to listen _Dg6YOfZQXy-01824-00394768-00394958 they do need to see they do need to _Dg6YOfZQXy-01825-00394959-00395102 remove that veil from _Dg6YOfZQXy-01826-00395103-00395343 but that they have put deliberately on _Dg6YOfZQXy-01827-00395344-00395471 their eyes _Dg6YOfZQXy-01828-00395472-00395799 because there is no other way to _Dg6YOfZQXy-01829-00395800-00396127 to create a place that is sustainable _Dg6YOfZQXy-01830-00396128-00396230 for the lives for _Dg6YOfZQXy-01831-00396231-00396558 of of everyone and the society _Dg6YOfZQXy-01832-00396559-00396815 and they do need also to get humble and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01833-00396816-00396887 say _Dg6YOfZQXy-01834-00396888-00397054 yeah there are things we don't know how _Dg6YOfZQXy-01835-00397055-00397215 to do and that's okay _Dg6YOfZQXy-01836-00397216-00397534 because there are many activists and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01837-00397535-00397727 civil society actors _Dg6YOfZQXy-01838-00397728-00398110 um educators brilliant professional _Dg6YOfZQXy-01839-00398111-00398223 people _Dg6YOfZQXy-01840-00398224-00398415 researchers who have been out there for _Dg6YOfZQXy-01841-00398416-00398606 years they've been doing amazing work _Dg6YOfZQXy-01842-00398607-00398871 they have a lot and a lot of accumulated _Dg6YOfZQXy-01843-00398872-00398951 knowledge _Dg6YOfZQXy-01844-00398952-00399158 and a lot of accumulated know-how and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01845-00399159-00399327 it's there we need to get _Dg6YOfZQXy-01846-00399328-00399543 all together but not only as feminists _Dg6YOfZQXy-01847-00399544-00399775 but the governments need to _Dg6YOfZQXy-01848-00399776-00399982 make sure the public spaces are not _Dg6YOfZQXy-01849-00399983-00400175 suffocating they need to make sure that _Dg6YOfZQXy-01850-00400176-00400382 these civil society actors are able to _Dg6YOfZQXy-01851-00400383-00400454 do their _Dg6YOfZQXy-01852-00400455-00400671 job and that they wouldn't be doing the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01853-00400672-00400830 job of the government because what's the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01854-00400831-00400991 job of the government is the job of the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01855-00400992-00401167 government what we can do is _Dg6YOfZQXy-01856-00401168-00401439 help them to see the way we can guide _Dg6YOfZQXy-01857-00401440-00401615 them we can work together _Dg6YOfZQXy-01858-00401616-00401934 until we manage to to create _Dg6YOfZQXy-01859-00401935-00402254 holistic policies that do honor the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01860-00402255-00402343 lives _Dg6YOfZQXy-01861-00402344-00402727 of all members of the society _Dg6YOfZQXy-01862-00402728-00402927 especially those who are very vulnerable _Dg6YOfZQXy-01863-00402928-00403151 at the moment _Dg6YOfZQXy-01864-00403152-00403534 and from here i'd go to _Dg6YOfZQXy-01865-00403535-00403878 to us um to us feminists _Dg6YOfZQXy-01866-00403879-00404247 i think i like this us because one of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01867-00404248-00404406 the things that i've been contemplating _Dg6YOfZQXy-01868-00404407-00404582 a lot is how difficult _Dg6YOfZQXy-01869-00404583-00404878 it is to put the us before the eye even _Dg6YOfZQXy-01870-00404879-00405102 in activist work _Dg6YOfZQXy-01871-00405103-00405327 and i think there is no way for us to go _Dg6YOfZQXy-01872-00405328-00405567 forward if we do not do that _Dg6YOfZQXy-01873-00405568-00405758 and also i've been reflecting on how _Dg6YOfZQXy-01874-00405759-00406015 difficult it is to actually _Dg6YOfZQXy-01875-00406016-00406199 reach out especially when you're _Dg6YOfZQXy-01876-00406200-00406358 extremely tired when when you're _Dg6YOfZQXy-01877-00406359-00406519 extremely angry when you feel like _Dg6YOfZQXy-01878-00406520-00406751 whatever you're doing is not enough _Dg6YOfZQXy-01879-00406752-00406991 um neither as a person nor as a _Dg6YOfZQXy-01880-00406992-00407206 collective nor as an organization it _Dg6YOfZQXy-01881-00407207-00407287 feels like _Dg6YOfZQXy-01882-00407288-00407487 no matter how much you do you need to do _Dg6YOfZQXy-01883-00407488-00407654 more you're constantly asked to do more _Dg6YOfZQXy-01884-00407655-00407799 because there's constantly more _Dg6YOfZQXy-01885-00407800-00407878 disasters _Dg6YOfZQXy-01886-00407879-00408295 on the on the way um and i think _Dg6YOfZQXy-01887-00408296-00408558 reaching out and and maintaining _Dg6YOfZQXy-01888-00408559-00408791 existing networks of solidarity _Dg6YOfZQXy-01889-00408792-00409015 and creating new ones is extremely _Dg6YOfZQXy-01890-00409016-00409215 difficult especially in times _Dg6YOfZQXy-01891-00409216-00409495 as the ones we have now because this _Dg6YOfZQXy-01892-00409496-00409695 neoliberal system and this approach of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01893-00409696-00409774 the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01894-00409775-00410039 individual well-being especially when _Dg6YOfZQXy-01895-00410039-00410166 you're not well _Dg6YOfZQXy-01896-00410167-00410351 kind of sometimes takes the tall and you _Dg6YOfZQXy-01897-00410352-00410526 kind of feel sometimes that yeah maybe _Dg6YOfZQXy-01898-00410527-00410663 actually i just need to take care of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01899-00410664-00410878 myself because i cannot do this anymore _Dg6YOfZQXy-01900-00410879-00411078 but it's precisely in these very hard _Dg6YOfZQXy-01901-00411079-00411239 moments _Dg6YOfZQXy-01902-00411239-00411455 i think i'm not sure it's a thought and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01903-00411456-00411599 process but i think it's _Dg6YOfZQXy-01904-00411600-00411791 specifically in these hard moments that _Dg6YOfZQXy-01905-00411792-00411982 we have to _Dg6YOfZQXy-01906-00411983-00412199 to remind each other and ourselves of _Dg6YOfZQXy-01907-00412200-00412366 the strengths that we can have _Dg6YOfZQXy-01908-00412367-00412639 when when we actually act together not _Dg6YOfZQXy-01909-00412639-00412703 only _Dg6YOfZQXy-01910-00412704-00412887 based on our own experiences but also _Dg6YOfZQXy-01911-00412888-00413070 based on the experiences of others on _Dg6YOfZQXy-01912-00413071-00413222 the tactics of others _Dg6YOfZQXy-01913-00413223-00413526 either other women and actors in other _Dg6YOfZQXy-01914-00413527-00413622 countries or _Dg6YOfZQXy-01915-00413623-00413774 women and activists who have been long _Dg6YOfZQXy-01916-00413775-00413934 before us and who laid _Dg6YOfZQXy-01917-00413935-00414263 around and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01918-00414264-00414678 one last thing i i wanted to say _Dg6YOfZQXy-01919-00414679-00414991 is i think in some contexts it's _Dg6YOfZQXy-01920-00414992-00415166 important that we _Dg6YOfZQXy-01921-00415167-00415366 like in moments when we have low energy _Dg6YOfZQXy-01922-00415367-00415534 let's call it it's important to revisit _Dg6YOfZQXy-01923-00415535-00415607 the tactic _Dg6YOfZQXy-01924-00415608-00415934 the tactics that we use um so maybe it's _Dg6YOfZQXy-01925-00415935-00415999 it's important _Dg6YOfZQXy-01926-00416000-00416255 also to remind ourselves that it's not _Dg6YOfZQXy-01927-00416256-00416366 um _Dg6YOfZQXy-01928-00416367-00416607 everything at once but it's one thing at _Dg6YOfZQXy-01929-00416608-00416718 a time _Dg6YOfZQXy-01930-00416719-00417063 um and that means choosing the proper _Dg6YOfZQXy-01931-00417064-00417399 tools for a proper for a specific um for _Dg6YOfZQXy-01932-00417400-00417551 a specific _Dg6YOfZQXy-01933-00417552-00417870 um objective um that could _Dg6YOfZQXy-01934-00417871-00418118 make our work easier our mental health _Dg6YOfZQXy-01935-00418119-00418191 better _Dg6YOfZQXy-01936-00418192-00418503 and maybe even result wise would be _Dg6YOfZQXy-01937-00418504-00418559 better _Dg6YOfZQXy-01938-00418560-00418782 and this thought came actually as um _Dg6YOfZQXy-01939-00418783-00418943 when i was rethinking _Dg6YOfZQXy-01940-00418943-00419126 them going to the street during the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01941-00419127-00419278 lockdown _Dg6YOfZQXy-01942-00419279-00419431 i think it was important as i said _Dg6YOfZQXy-01943-00419432-00419591 because it there was _Dg6YOfZQXy-01944-00419592-00419870 there was a need to put that to to get _Dg6YOfZQXy-01945-00419871-00420151 the lid off the pressure pot you know _Dg6YOfZQXy-01946-00420152-00420359 but it did not really lead to anywhere _Dg6YOfZQXy-01947-00420360-00420463 but it did _Dg6YOfZQXy-01948-00420464-00420831 actually um take a lot of our energies _Dg6YOfZQXy-01949-00420832-00420927 to organize _Dg6YOfZQXy-01950-00420928-00421295 to to argue to try to get permits _Dg6YOfZQXy-01951-00421296-00421487 to to do all that work that could have _Dg6YOfZQXy-01952-00421488-00421727 maybe put in somewhere else _Dg6YOfZQXy-01953-00421728-00422110 and had maybe better results so _Dg6YOfZQXy-01954-00422112-00422366 yeah i guess i guess that's it and yeah _Dg6YOfZQXy-01955-00422367-00422487 no actually one more _Dg6YOfZQXy-01956-00422488-00422751 last thing thinking about this whole _Dg6YOfZQXy-01957-00422752-00422975 online activism _Dg6YOfZQXy-01958-00422976-00423214 i was thinking that it's i don't know _Dg6YOfZQXy-01959-00423215-00423287 how yet _Dg6YOfZQXy-01960-00423288-00423463 but it's something that i'd like to put _Dg6YOfZQXy-01961-00423464-00423622 on the table and maybe _Dg6YOfZQXy-01962-00423623-00423775 someone else will develop on that _Dg6YOfZQXy-01963-00423776-00424039 thought and put it into use _Dg6YOfZQXy-01964-00424039-00424310 i think it's important that we um _Dg6YOfZQXy-01965-00424312-00424463 especially in such sp _Dg6YOfZQXy-01966-00424464-00424759 in specific contexts and in um in _Dg6YOfZQXy-01967-00424760-00424959 countries where maybe accessibility to _Dg6YOfZQXy-01968-00424960-00425183 all digital rights are not are not that _Dg6YOfZQXy-01969-00425184-00425359 great and accessibility to online _Dg6YOfZQXy-01970-00425360-00425439 platforms _Dg6YOfZQXy-01971-00425439-00425695 is not it's not there that now it's the _Dg6YOfZQXy-01972-00425696-00425943 time to think what to do _Dg6YOfZQXy-01973-00425943-00426318 in another total lockdown how to _Dg6YOfZQXy-01974-00426319-00426622 reach out to women who are not _Dg6YOfZQXy-01975-00426623-00426943 whose lives are not that digital yet or _Dg6YOfZQXy-01976-00426943-00427151 um and also to not forget that being _Dg6YOfZQXy-01977-00427152-00427318 online it means being slaves to _Dg6YOfZQXy-01978-00427319-00427527 algorithms of social media _Dg6YOfZQXy-01979-00427528-00427710 and that's that's that's not an easy _Dg6YOfZQXy-01980-00427712-00427855 thing to handle either _Dg6YOfZQXy-01981-00427856-00428031 so it means again that information _Dg6YOfZQXy-01982-00428032-00428199 reaches those people who are looking for _Dg6YOfZQXy-01983-00428200-00428310 it who like it _Dg6YOfZQXy-01984-00428312-00428679 who i don't know who um who look like it _Dg6YOfZQXy-01985-00428680-00428743 or _Dg6YOfZQXy-01986-00428743-00429087 whatever the the factors are so we do _Dg6YOfZQXy-01987-00429088-00429239 need to get out of our _Dg6YOfZQXy-01988-00429239-00429479 um out of our bubbles if we need to _Dg6YOfZQXy-01989-00429480-00429663 reach more women with specific _Dg6YOfZQXy-01990-00429664-00429879 information or specific support and _Dg6YOfZQXy-01991-00429880-00430127 i wish i could share an idea of how to _Dg6YOfZQXy-01992-00430128-00430207 do that but _Dg6YOfZQXy-01993-00430208-00430703 um i'm not there yet _Dg6YOfZQXy-01994-00430704-00430918 well thank you i mean maybe radica has _Dg6YOfZQXy-01995-00430919-00431047 some ideas or _Dg6YOfZQXy-01996-00431047-00431283 the audience that we can discuss _Dg6YOfZQXy-01997-00431284-00431463 collectively but first _Dg6YOfZQXy-01998-00431464-00431727 uh radhika share with us some insights _Dg6YOfZQXy-01999-00431728-00431896 from india _Dg6YOfZQXy-02000-00431897-00432079 [Music] _Dg6YOfZQXy-02001-00432080-00432343 see what is clearly emerging is the fact _Dg6YOfZQXy-02002-00432343-00432391 that _Dg6YOfZQXy-02003-00432392-00432727 you know that _Dg6YOfZQXy-02004-00432728-00432951 you know i agree with uh you know i _Dg6YOfZQXy-02005-00432952-00433103 agree with danielle about _Dg6YOfZQXy-02006-00433104-00433366 you know women being present in you know _Dg6YOfZQXy-02007-00433367-00433439 politics _Dg6YOfZQXy-02008-00433439-00433655 uh as much as just not just organizing _Dg6YOfZQXy-02009-00433656-00433766 relief but _Dg6YOfZQXy-02010-00433767-00434007 in politics how it's become so important _Dg6YOfZQXy-02011-00434008-00434207 how organizing and mobilizing has become _Dg6YOfZQXy-02012-00434208-00434366 such an important issue _Dg6YOfZQXy-02013-00434367-00434695 and we have for us here uh we have never _Dg6YOfZQXy-02014-00434696-00434735 more _Dg6YOfZQXy-02015-00434735-00435039 experienced it as strongly as now _Dg6YOfZQXy-02016-00435039-00435214 when you know when these things are _Dg6YOfZQXy-02017-00435215-00435375 becoming even more increasingly _Dg6YOfZQXy-02018-00435376-00435455 important _Dg6YOfZQXy-02019-00435456-00435710 both and both in terms of women's _Dg6YOfZQXy-02020-00435712-00435847 mobilization as well as larger _Dg6YOfZQXy-02021-00435847-00436039 mobilizations of _Dg6YOfZQXy-02022-00436039-00436351 of work as farmers uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-02023-00436352-00436510 and other people who are affected by the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02024-00436512-00436663 neoliberal order _Dg6YOfZQXy-02025-00436664-00437007 uh what is also emerging is clearly that _Dg6YOfZQXy-02026-00437008-00437318 you know that a neoliberal health system _Dg6YOfZQXy-02027-00437319-00437575 is not going to be _Dg6YOfZQXy-02028-00437576-00437879 is not going to help anyone anyone and _Dg6YOfZQXy-02029-00437880-00438039 the health crisis is only going to _Dg6YOfZQXy-02030-00438039-00438118 increase _Dg6YOfZQXy-02031-00438119-00438431 and as as we see it here _Dg6YOfZQXy-02032-00438432-00438703 you know leaving it to the to the poorly _Dg6YOfZQXy-02033-00438704-00438855 paid _Dg6YOfZQXy-02034-00438856-00439118 health worker who is a volunteer who _Dg6YOfZQXy-02035-00439119-00439343 gets a voluntary voluntary or volunteer _Dg6YOfZQXy-02036-00439343-00439455 honorarium _Dg6YOfZQXy-02037-00439456-00439639 is not going to help the larger _Dg6YOfZQXy-02038-00439639-00439847 society's health needs _Dg6YOfZQXy-02039-00439847-00440214 or nor is it going to serve you know the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02040-00440215-00440422 rights the wage rights of the women _Dg6YOfZQXy-02041-00440423-00440607 workers who are involved in this scheme _Dg6YOfZQXy-02042-00440608-00440727 work _Dg6YOfZQXy-02043-00440728-00441039 the other element that is _Dg6YOfZQXy-02044-00441039-00441222 that has become increasingly important _Dg6YOfZQXy-02045-00441223-00441351 for us is the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02046-00441352-00441639 you know for that you know once you _Dg6YOfZQXy-02047-00441639-00441718 there is _Dg6YOfZQXy-02048-00441719-00442022 you know this is also a time where it _Dg6YOfZQXy-02049-00442023-00442263 has become possible to highlight _Dg6YOfZQXy-02050-00442264-00442479 and point to the you know we we've _Dg6YOfZQXy-02051-00442480-00442622 always been talking of women the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02052-00442623-00442791 different kinds of work that women _Dg6YOfZQXy-02053-00442792-00443118 do but uh it is this is the time to take _Dg6YOfZQXy-02054-00443119-00443343 it to a larger public to larger _Dg6YOfZQXy-02055-00443343-00443543 you know in terms of educational aspects _Dg6YOfZQXy-02056-00443543-00443703 of of _Dg6YOfZQXy-02057-00443704-00444007 of uh feminist work and _Dg6YOfZQXy-02058-00444008-00444199 taking it to a larger public to opening _Dg6YOfZQXy-02059-00444200-00444487 it out and opening it out especially the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02060-00444488-00444775 aspect of how women's work has been _Dg6YOfZQXy-02061-00444776-00444879 central to _Dg6YOfZQXy-02062-00444880-00445039 ensuring that you know people have _Dg6YOfZQXy-02063-00445039-00445247 survived through the pandemic _Dg6YOfZQXy-02064-00445247-00445414 these have been the crucial crucial _Dg6YOfZQXy-02065-00445415-00445583 areas you know work at home _Dg6YOfZQXy-02066-00445584-00445743 work in the health sector work in the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02067-00445743-00445887 area of education _Dg6YOfZQXy-02068-00445888-00446135 well these are areas where women are uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-02069-00446135-00446247 represented _Dg6YOfZQXy-02070-00446247-00446470 more than in other places and we said _Dg6YOfZQXy-02071-00446471-00446614 these have come out as the most _Dg6YOfZQXy-02072-00446615-00446759 important areas of work _Dg6YOfZQXy-02073-00446760-00446966 also during the pandemic and _Dg6YOfZQXy-02074-00446967-00447095 highlighting it has _Dg6YOfZQXy-02075-00447096-00447487 uh has become has is important _Dg6YOfZQXy-02076-00447488-00447670 the uh you know there are many areas _Dg6YOfZQXy-02077-00447671-00447855 which have got neglected _Dg6YOfZQXy-02078-00447856-00448207 uh and the and uh especially _Dg6YOfZQXy-02079-00448208-00448439 for instance issues of shelter that _Dg6YOfZQXy-02080-00448439-00448583 christiana had also men _Dg6YOfZQXy-02081-00448584-00448863 has been talking about uh the need for _Dg6YOfZQXy-02082-00448864-00449007 safe shelters the needs _Dg6YOfZQXy-02083-00449008-00449222 and the need for women to have the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02084-00449223-00449407 rights to housing _Dg6YOfZQXy-02085-00449408-00449743 in their own house you know to escape _Dg6YOfZQXy-02086-00449743-00450087 violent homes uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-02087-00450088-00450375 to for the rights of transgender people _Dg6YOfZQXy-02088-00450376-00450414 who are _Dg6YOfZQXy-02089-00450415-00450735 you know who who suddenly found that _Dg6YOfZQXy-02090-00450735-00450895 they did not have any place to stay _Dg6YOfZQXy-02091-00450896-00451055 neither in their _Dg6YOfZQXy-02092-00451056-00451247 natal homes nor in the communities that _Dg6YOfZQXy-02093-00451247-00451391 they had _Dg6YOfZQXy-02094-00451392-00451622 that they had adopted because of sudden _Dg6YOfZQXy-02095-00451623-00451766 lockdowns that _Dg6YOfZQXy-02096-00451767-00451910 took place so the importance of _Dg6YOfZQXy-02097-00451912-00452199 mobilizing on shelters has become _Dg6YOfZQXy-02098-00452200-00452447 has become an important area for for _Dg6YOfZQXy-02099-00452447-00452663 women's movement _Dg6YOfZQXy-02100-00452664-00452935 an import another and in the very _Dg6YOfZQXy-02101-00452935-00453127 significant areas they're important to _Dg6YOfZQXy-02102-00453128-00453414 organize over over public distribution _Dg6YOfZQXy-02103-00453415-00453551 systems of food _Dg6YOfZQXy-02104-00453552-00453903 and the pandemic has posed uh you know _Dg6YOfZQXy-02105-00453904-00454118 the the lockdowns the loss of livelihood _Dg6YOfZQXy-02106-00454119-00454239 has led to _Dg6YOfZQXy-02107-00454239-00454559 uh food um cry _Dg6YOfZQXy-02108-00454560-00454727 you know food there's there are always _Dg6YOfZQXy-02109-00454728-00454895 issues of food distribution _Dg6YOfZQXy-02110-00454896-00455231 being unequal for women and the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02111-00455232-00455543 rights to the rights to food within the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02112-00455543-00455631 household _Dg6YOfZQXy-02113-00455632-00455839 within the rights to nutrition has _Dg6YOfZQXy-02114-00455839-00456118 become once again important _Dg6YOfZQXy-02115-00456119-00456310 uh christianity also had mentioned about _Dg6YOfZQXy-02116-00456312-00456479 digital inequality _Dg6YOfZQXy-02117-00456480-00456679 and this is becoming particularly _Dg6YOfZQXy-02118-00456680-00456903 conspicuous as far as girls education is _Dg6YOfZQXy-02119-00456904-00457055 concerned and girls have suffered _Dg6YOfZQXy-02120-00457056-00457231 tremendously as a result _Dg6YOfZQXy-02121-00457232-00457463 and what we fear especially work i mean _Dg6YOfZQXy-02122-00457464-00457631 some of us work in the area of education _Dg6YOfZQXy-02123-00457632-00457727 we feel that _Dg6YOfZQXy-02124-00457728-00457975 this it's a major setback women uh the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02125-00457976-00458135 girl's education _Dg6YOfZQXy-02126-00458135-00458463 because of the absence of you know the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02127-00458464-00458766 entire online forms of education implies _Dg6YOfZQXy-02128-00458767-00458991 access to digital technology the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02129-00458992-00459103 hardware for it _Dg6YOfZQXy-02130-00459104-00459310 the connectivity for it and that have _Dg6YOfZQXy-02131-00459312-00459470 been study after study which have said _Dg6YOfZQXy-02132-00459471-00459575 that women's access _Dg6YOfZQXy-02133-00459576-00459879 is far less than that of of men _Dg6YOfZQXy-02134-00459880-00460191 and so if the entire if _Dg6YOfZQXy-02135-00460192-00460383 the entire educational pattern is going _Dg6YOfZQXy-02136-00460384-00460551 to emerge through these formats it's _Dg6YOfZQXy-02137-00460552-00460727 going to have a serious crisis in terms _Dg6YOfZQXy-02138-00460728-00460918 of women's access to inflammation _Dg6YOfZQXy-02139-00460919-00461103 women's access to education _Dg6YOfZQXy-02140-00461104-00461310 so this is this this will eventually _Dg6YOfZQXy-02141-00461312-00461470 this will become an important area for _Dg6YOfZQXy-02142-00461471-00461575 mobilization _Dg6YOfZQXy-02143-00461576-00461743 it is particularly so because there are _Dg6YOfZQXy-02144-00461743-00462014 huge companies and corporates _Dg6YOfZQXy-02145-00462015-00462214 and transnational organizations which _Dg6YOfZQXy-02146-00462215-00462351 are kind of uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-02147-00462352-00462599 you know with the extreme they're very _Dg6YOfZQXy-02148-00462600-00462695 very powerful _Dg6YOfZQXy-02149-00462696-00462887 transnational companies who are _Dg6YOfZQXy-02150-00462888-00463031 controlling the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02151-00463032-00463295 the digital access so how it is going to _Dg6YOfZQXy-02152-00463296-00463375 pan out _Dg6YOfZQXy-02153-00463376-00463655 what will be the i mean its implications _Dg6YOfZQXy-02154-00463656-00463703 uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-02155-00463704-00464022 for women uh you know we are already _Dg6YOfZQXy-02156-00464023-00464166 seeing that you know it's going to _Dg6YOfZQXy-02157-00464167-00464422 set back women's education so we re uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-02158-00464423-00464599 this is one one more area of _Dg6YOfZQXy-02159-00464600-00464822 uh work and immobilization that will _Dg6YOfZQXy-02160-00464823-00465079 have to take place _Dg6YOfZQXy-02161-00465080-00465391 though you know i mean in terms of uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-02162-00465392-00465591 what we have learned and what i would _Dg6YOfZQXy-02163-00465592-00465718 like to share _Dg6YOfZQXy-02164-00465719-00465966 is that you know the post what we're _Dg6YOfZQXy-02165-00465967-00466143 clearly seeing is that post pandemic _Dg6YOfZQXy-02166-00466143-00466343 world is being crafted now _Dg6YOfZQXy-02167-00466343-00466655 and there is a very harsh neoliberal _Dg6YOfZQXy-02168-00466656-00466718 order _Dg6YOfZQXy-02169-00466719-00466959 which is uh utilizing traditional _Dg6YOfZQXy-02170-00466960-00467143 inequalities and it's being green _Dg6YOfZQXy-02171-00467143-00467366 it's reinforcing it through conservative _Dg6YOfZQXy-02172-00467367-00467447 forces _Dg6YOfZQXy-02173-00467447-00467743 and new inequalities are coming in and _Dg6YOfZQXy-02174-00467743-00467807 what we do _Dg6YOfZQXy-02175-00467808-00468063 find is that uh you know women's _Dg6YOfZQXy-02176-00468064-00468295 autonomy choices for instance _Dg6YOfZQXy-02177-00468296-00468495 uh there are there have been there have _Dg6YOfZQXy-02178-00468496-00468647 been massive attacks through _Dg6YOfZQXy-02179-00468647-00468847 uh through legal measures on women's _Dg6YOfZQXy-02180-00468847-00468959 right to the choice of _Dg6YOfZQXy-02181-00468960-00469270 partners uh from a from another faith _Dg6YOfZQXy-02182-00469271-00469447 uh that has happened in the form of a _Dg6YOfZQXy-02183-00469447-00469679 law in one of the states of india _Dg6YOfZQXy-02184-00469680-00469951 uh the uttar pradesh so uh you know this _Dg6YOfZQXy-02185-00469952-00470047 pandemic has _Dg6YOfZQXy-02186-00470047-00470343 also been used to curb women's or you _Dg6YOfZQXy-02187-00470343-00470439 know rights _Dg6YOfZQXy-02188-00470439-00470766 or rights to their choices their choice _Dg6YOfZQXy-02189-00470767-00470879 of partners _Dg6YOfZQXy-02190-00470880-00471279 the women's rights to uh you know to _Dg6YOfZQXy-02191-00471280-00471527 to move in public spaces to women's _Dg6YOfZQXy-02192-00471528-00471670 rights to _Dg6YOfZQXy-02193-00471671-00471895 them for their wage rights so uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-02194-00471896-00472079 mobilizing on these grounds is clearly _Dg6YOfZQXy-02195-00472080-00472207 important _Dg6YOfZQXy-02196-00472208-00472391 and what we do clearly notice is that _Dg6YOfZQXy-02197-00472392-00472518 the energies of the progressive _Dg6YOfZQXy-02198-00472519-00472631 democratic _Dg6YOfZQXy-02199-00472632-00472943 movements uh you know are being cast _Dg6YOfZQXy-02200-00472943-00473255 now and it would uh if _Dg6YOfZQXy-02201-00473256-00473431 and gender equities and concerns are _Dg6YOfZQXy-02202-00473432-00473655 going to clearly emerge in these times _Dg6YOfZQXy-02203-00473656-00473983 and uh these protests the protest spaces _Dg6YOfZQXy-02204-00473984-00474183 are also increasingly becoming feminist _Dg6YOfZQXy-02205-00474184-00474255 spaces _Dg6YOfZQXy-02206-00474256-00474559 feminists not in terms of uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-02207-00474560-00474895 you know the way people misunderstand it _Dg6YOfZQXy-02208-00474896-00475039 but in terms of feminists in terms of _Dg6YOfZQXy-02209-00475039-00475191 the kind of values that are being that _Dg6YOfZQXy-02210-00475192-00475231 are _Dg6YOfZQXy-02211-00475232-00475463 becoming essential for these protest _Dg6YOfZQXy-02212-00475464-00475559 spaces _Dg6YOfZQXy-02213-00475560-00475735 you know at one level the new liberal _Dg6YOfZQXy-02214-00475735-00475895 apologists are willing to put profits _Dg6YOfZQXy-02215-00475896-00476055 before rights of women and for this they _Dg6YOfZQXy-02216-00476056-00476143 are willing to _Dg6YOfZQXy-02217-00476143-00476335 not tie up with extremely conservative _Dg6YOfZQXy-02218-00476335-00476487 forces uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-02219-00476488-00476687 but uh on the other we find that you _Dg6YOfZQXy-02220-00476688-00476839 know when women have mobilized when they _Dg6YOfZQXy-02221-00476839-00476991 present in large numbers _Dg6YOfZQXy-02222-00476992-00477151 uh there are been transformation of the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02223-00477152-00477335 protest spaces also _Dg6YOfZQXy-02224-00477335-00477575 and these places are becoming places of _Dg6YOfZQXy-02225-00477576-00477727 care and concern _Dg6YOfZQXy-02226-00477728-00478079 where there is you know there are uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-02227-00478080-00478239 for instance in you know there's the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02228-00478239-00478407 sharing and serving of food children _Dg6YOfZQXy-02229-00478408-00478559 sitting with parents as they say _Dg6YOfZQXy-02230-00478560-00478751 as they wait out at pretty sides you _Dg6YOfZQXy-02231-00478752-00478959 know women's menstrual concerns becoming _Dg6YOfZQXy-02232-00478960-00479135 concerns for everyone as _Dg6YOfZQXy-02233-00479135-00479439 safe spaces for women are you know _Dg6YOfZQXy-02234-00479439-00479503 needed _Dg6YOfZQXy-02235-00479504-00479735 uh harassment questions becoming a _Dg6YOfZQXy-02236-00479735-00479895 national question _Dg6YOfZQXy-02237-00479896-00480207 you know assaults of women becoming a _Dg6YOfZQXy-02238-00480208-00480318 national question _Dg6YOfZQXy-02239-00480319-00480591 um these are i mean these are come _Dg6YOfZQXy-02240-00480592-00480743 emerging from the protests _Dg6YOfZQXy-02241-00480743-00480951 and i think these are uh transformation _Dg6YOfZQXy-02242-00480952-00481207 of the protest spaces as feminist spaces _Dg6YOfZQXy-02243-00481208-00481439 and yeah and i think there's a lot to _Dg6YOfZQXy-02244-00481439-00481535 learn from this _Dg6YOfZQXy-02245-00481535-00481870 i mean also for i mean these are _Dg6YOfZQXy-02246-00481871-00482022 these are work in progress these are _Dg6YOfZQXy-02247-00482023-00482199 things that are happening and there's a _Dg6YOfZQXy-02248-00482200-00482351 lot of possibilities from these _Dg6YOfZQXy-02249-00482352-00482422 struggles _Dg6YOfZQXy-02250-00482423-00482710 and i think i'm sure uh across the world _Dg6YOfZQXy-02251-00482712-00482847 you know _Dg6YOfZQXy-02252-00482847-00483159 when women do enter _Dg6YOfZQXy-02253-00483160-00483383 protest areas how they in how they _Dg6YOfZQXy-02254-00483384-00483495 transform these _Dg6YOfZQXy-02255-00483496-00483679 spaces how they transform these _Dg6YOfZQXy-02256-00483680-00483831 struggles uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-02257-00483832-00484151 to make them far more inclusive more uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-02258-00484152-00484422 participatory more democratic i think _Dg6YOfZQXy-02259-00484423-00484655 that's what our you know that's _Dg6YOfZQXy-02260-00484656-00485047 those are our feminist concerns _Dg6YOfZQXy-02261-00485047-00485391 well thank you hadika um well actually _Dg6YOfZQXy-02262-00485392-00485462 there are no _Dg6YOfZQXy-02263-00485463-00485670 couple of questions from the audience _Dg6YOfZQXy-02264-00485671-00485695 and _Dg6YOfZQXy-02265-00485696-00485831 [Music] _Dg6YOfZQXy-02266-00485832-00486127 i also do have a question um i think i _Dg6YOfZQXy-02267-00486128-00486214 can just like _Dg6YOfZQXy-02268-00486215-00486422 throw a couple of questions at you and _Dg6YOfZQXy-02269-00486423-00486655 you see which which you want to engage _Dg6YOfZQXy-02270-00486656-00486855 or not _Dg6YOfZQXy-02271-00486856-00487095 um i think first of all what would _Dg6YOfZQXy-02272-00487096-00487231 interest me _Dg6YOfZQXy-02273-00487232-00487559 or what i have been thinking um _Dg6YOfZQXy-02274-00487560-00487710 during the preparation of this this year _Dg6YOfZQXy-02275-00487712-00487918 but also working with other _Dg6YOfZQXy-02276-00487919-00488247 related topics is that also i think it _Dg6YOfZQXy-02277-00488247-00488343 makes increasingly _Dg6YOfZQXy-02278-00488343-00488679 more sense to use the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02279-00488680-00488951 term of state violence maybe in its more _Dg6YOfZQXy-02280-00488952-00489055 strictest sense _Dg6YOfZQXy-02281-00489056-00489335 also sometimes in its more broader sense _Dg6YOfZQXy-02282-00489335-00489422 um _Dg6YOfZQXy-02283-00489423-00489622 so like maybe you could if you would _Dg6YOfZQXy-02284-00489623-00489855 like to elaborate a little bit about _Dg6YOfZQXy-02285-00489856-00489927 like _Dg6YOfZQXy-02286-00489928-00490127 police violence against women in this _Dg6YOfZQXy-02287-00490128-00490303 whole context which would be like the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02288-00490304-00490455 strictest sense _Dg6YOfZQXy-02289-00490456-00490670 or like you know looking at state _Dg6YOfZQXy-02290-00490671-00490895 violence in a broader sense like not _Dg6YOfZQXy-02291-00490896-00491159 not guaranteeing shelters for instance _Dg6YOfZQXy-02292-00491160-00491310 like leaving women _Dg6YOfZQXy-02293-00491312-00491631 left at home with their abusive partners _Dg6YOfZQXy-02294-00491632-00492031 um and uh maybe also the question of _Dg6YOfZQXy-02295-00492032-00492191 administrative detention which is _Dg6YOfZQXy-02296-00492192-00492479 obviously a big thing in in in jordan _Dg6YOfZQXy-02297-00492480-00492822 like protective custody uh these kinds _Dg6YOfZQXy-02298-00492823-00492879 of _Dg6YOfZQXy-02299-00492880-00493207 this kind of stuff um and also a _Dg6YOfZQXy-02300-00493208-00493295 question we got _Dg6YOfZQXy-02301-00493296-00493551 from the audience about domestic work or _Dg6YOfZQXy-02302-00493552-00493766 the lack of regulation of it _Dg6YOfZQXy-02303-00493767-00493903 especially when it comes to migrant _Dg6YOfZQXy-02304-00493904-00494143 workers is also something what we could _Dg6YOfZQXy-02305-00494143-00494214 maybe _Dg6YOfZQXy-02306-00494215-00494543 put under this umbrella or put it put _Dg6YOfZQXy-02307-00494543-00494759 address in this discussion about state _Dg6YOfZQXy-02308-00494760-00494927 violence against certain _Dg6YOfZQXy-02309-00494928-00495191 certain groups of certain women right _Dg6YOfZQXy-02310-00495192-00495366 and then another very interesting _Dg6YOfZQXy-02311-00495367-00495670 question um is also _Dg6YOfZQXy-02312-00495671-00495839 now that we talked about feminist _Dg6YOfZQXy-02313-00495839-00495975 mobilization and _Dg6YOfZQXy-02314-00495976-00496287 what we learned and uh kind of knowledge _Dg6YOfZQXy-02315-00496288-00496575 we we gathered uh what what actually _Dg6YOfZQXy-02316-00496576-00496639 about like _Dg6YOfZQXy-02317-00496639-00497014 uh transnational feminist exchange or _Dg6YOfZQXy-02318-00497015-00497110 network _Dg6YOfZQXy-02319-00497112-00497470 like uh how how do we do to to like work _Dg6YOfZQXy-02320-00497471-00497566 more together _Dg6YOfZQXy-02321-00497567-00497918 and uh to to make this exchange like _Dg6YOfZQXy-02322-00497919-00498222 quicker right um _Dg6YOfZQXy-02323-00498223-00498495 yeah i think uh maybe if you wanna _Dg6YOfZQXy-02324-00498496-00498559 address _Dg6YOfZQXy-02325-00498560-00498751 one of these aspects i think we all _Dg6YOfZQXy-02326-00498752-00498903 would be very curious to hear your _Dg6YOfZQXy-02327-00498904-00499327 opinion on this _Dg6YOfZQXy-02328-00499328-00499470 i don't know christina if you would like _Dg6YOfZQXy-02329-00499471-00499791 to start maybe _Dg6YOfZQXy-02330-00499792-00500103 yeah regarding state violence um so as i _Dg6YOfZQXy-02331-00500104-00500231 mentioned the family protection _Dg6YOfZQXy-02332-00500232-00500303 department _Dg6YOfZQXy-02333-00500304-00500510 is the department of the of the general _Dg6YOfZQXy-02334-00500512-00500703 security services _Dg6YOfZQXy-02335-00500704-00501087 and they are police force let's say _Dg6YOfZQXy-02336-00501088-00501551 but they do have a much like many more _Dg6YOfZQXy-02337-00501552-00501887 mandates than police does for instance _Dg6YOfZQXy-02338-00501888-00502079 they are allowed to _Dg6YOfZQXy-02339-00502080-00502383 offer reconciliation or they are _Dg6YOfZQXy-02340-00502384-00502622 to a woman who is beaten let's say by _Dg6YOfZQXy-02341-00502623-00502775 her father _Dg6YOfZQXy-02342-00502776-00502951 which is not something a regular police _Dg6YOfZQXy-02343-00502952-00503118 will do right like if you _Dg6YOfZQXy-02344-00503119-00503527 i don't know if um um _Dg6YOfZQXy-02345-00503528-00503662 i don't know if your credit card is _Dg6YOfZQXy-02346-00503663-00503822 stolen and you go to report it to the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02347-00503823-00503927 police _Dg6YOfZQXy-02348-00503928-00504103 the regular police will not tell you all _Dg6YOfZQXy-02349-00504104-00504287 this and maybe you'd like to just _Dg6YOfZQXy-02350-00504288-00504518 you know reconcile with the man or the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02351-00504519-00504687 woman who stole a credit card you know _Dg6YOfZQXy-02352-00504688-00504879 there's no need to make a big fuss here _Dg6YOfZQXy-02353-00504880-00504999 and file a complaint _Dg6YOfZQXy-02354-00505000-00505118 but that happens in the family _Dg6YOfZQXy-02355-00505119-00505327 protection department and also the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02356-00505328-00505487 problem with this department is that _Dg6YOfZQXy-02357-00505488-00505679 even when _Dg6YOfZQXy-02358-00505680-00505927 um so first they have mandates that do _Dg6YOfZQXy-02359-00505928-00506014 not _Dg6YOfZQXy-02360-00506015-00506310 um make the situation better in the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02361-00506312-00506543 sense that they do not protect the woman _Dg6YOfZQXy-02362-00506543-00506862 second and they are allowed just to just _Dg6YOfZQXy-02363-00506863-00507014 to interrupt just to clarify _Dg6YOfZQXy-02364-00507015-00507214 one thing for people who might not be so _Dg6YOfZQXy-02365-00507215-00507383 familiar with the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02366-00507384-00507727 family so if i'm like a victim or a _Dg6YOfZQXy-02367-00507728-00507943 survivor of domestic violence i would go _Dg6YOfZQXy-02368-00507943-00508079 to the family protection _Dg6YOfZQXy-02369-00508080-00508343 unit in jordan this would be like the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02370-00508343-00508535 responsible people for my problem _Dg6YOfZQXy-02371-00508535-00508743 yes exactly you would either call them _Dg6YOfZQXy-02372-00508743-00508935 or go to their department and file a _Dg6YOfZQXy-02373-00508935-00509087 complaint and then they take it from _Dg6YOfZQXy-02374-00509088-00509239 there they have case workers and they _Dg6YOfZQXy-02375-00509239-00509359 take it from there _Dg6YOfZQXy-02376-00509360-00509551 now the problem is that all since they _Dg6YOfZQXy-02377-00509552-00509727 have a lot of mandates and since we are _Dg6YOfZQXy-02378-00509728-00509799 talking about _Dg6YOfZQXy-02379-00509800-00510014 family and families that as a concept is _Dg6YOfZQXy-02380-00510015-00510262 very important in the jordanian society _Dg6YOfZQXy-02381-00510263-00510614 so often um they are allowed by law to _Dg6YOfZQXy-02382-00510615-00510831 based on their personal judgment of how _Dg6YOfZQXy-02383-00510832-00511070 a family dispute should be resolved they _Dg6YOfZQXy-02384-00511071-00511262 can take action and they do have mandate _Dg6YOfZQXy-02385-00511263-00511343 for that _Dg6YOfZQXy-02386-00511343-00511631 so it goes back not to clear policy _Dg6YOfZQXy-02387-00511632-00511855 protective policy etc but it goes back _Dg6YOfZQXy-02388-00511856-00512055 to personal judgment that is _Dg6YOfZQXy-02389-00512056-00512335 that has a legal basis basically to act _Dg6YOfZQXy-02390-00512335-00512479 upon _Dg6YOfZQXy-02391-00512480-00512855 and often even let's say there are um _Dg6YOfZQXy-02392-00512856-00513303 some trainings that um the the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02393-00513304-00513495 uh the officers in the family protection _Dg6YOfZQXy-02394-00513496-00513631 department um _Dg6YOfZQXy-02395-00513632-00514062 they undertake to learn how to deal with _Dg6YOfZQXy-02396-00514063-00514383 survivors of domestic violence how to _Dg6YOfZQXy-02397-00514384-00514718 ask proper questions how to make sure _Dg6YOfZQXy-02398-00514719-00514903 to go through the process as most _Dg6YOfZQXy-02399-00514904-00515070 smoothly as possible taking into _Dg6YOfZQXy-02400-00515071-00515255 consideration the sensitivity of the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02401-00515256-00515375 matter and the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02402-00515376-00515614 and the emotional and psychological uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-02403-00515615-00515862 well-being of the survivor _Dg6YOfZQXy-02404-00515863-00516095 those people who undertake they do not _Dg6YOfZQXy-02405-00516096-00516262 remain necessarily in the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02406-00516263-00516487 in the in the protection department so _Dg6YOfZQXy-02407-00516488-00516599 they do not _Dg6YOfZQXy-02408-00516600-00516839 get to actually practice and build upon _Dg6YOfZQXy-02409-00516839-00516951 the experience _Dg6YOfZQXy-02410-00516952-00517118 because they get moved to other police _Dg6YOfZQXy-02411-00517119-00517279 departments um _Dg6YOfZQXy-02412-00517280-00517566 in in a rotation system so all these _Dg6YOfZQXy-02413-00517567-00517670 things make this _Dg6YOfZQXy-02414-00517671-00518039 department not necessarily capable of _Dg6YOfZQXy-02415-00518039-00518214 doing its job of protecting _Dg6YOfZQXy-02416-00518215-00518535 women and children and _Dg6YOfZQXy-02417-00518535-00518951 who live in um in violent households _Dg6YOfZQXy-02418-00518952-00519239 another thing so this is one of the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02419-00519239-00519431 examples of how state violence can be _Dg6YOfZQXy-02420-00519432-00519614 translated _Dg6YOfZQXy-02421-00519615-00519810 another issue is that _Dg6YOfZQXy-02422-00519810-00520007 [Music] _Dg6YOfZQXy-02423-00520008-00520191 as you mentioned the protective custody _Dg6YOfZQXy-02424-00520192-00520383 so in jordan there is this system _Dg6YOfZQXy-02425-00520384-00520759 that there are shelters to which you can _Dg6YOfZQXy-02426-00520760-00520799 go _Dg6YOfZQXy-02427-00520800-00521118 if you which you can be admitted if uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-02428-00521119-00521383 you survived abuse in your family the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02429-00521384-00521575 problem of these shelters is that _Dg6YOfZQXy-02430-00521576-00521910 um if you have your children um so if _Dg6YOfZQXy-02431-00521912-00521975 they're _Dg6YOfZQXy-02432-00521976-00522151 under a certain age they can be with you _Dg6YOfZQXy-02433-00522152-00522359 if not if it's a boy it's going to go to _Dg6YOfZQXy-02434-00522360-00522407 one _Dg6YOfZQXy-02435-00522408-00522799 um something like a social service um _Dg6YOfZQXy-02436-00522800-00523103 house or like an orphanage let's say _Dg6YOfZQXy-02437-00523104-00523303 and the girl would go that the boy would _Dg6YOfZQXy-02438-00523304-00523543 go to one the girl would go to another _Dg6YOfZQXy-02439-00523543-00523766 so you would be separated from your kids _Dg6YOfZQXy-02440-00523767-00523951 and if after six months _Dg6YOfZQXy-02441-00523952-00524151 the case is not resolved then you are _Dg6YOfZQXy-02442-00524152-00524391 put into protective custody _Dg6YOfZQXy-02443-00524392-00524614 which means you are basically imprisoned _Dg6YOfZQXy-02444-00524615-00524814 so you are there in prison without your _Dg6YOfZQXy-02445-00524815-00524887 children _Dg6YOfZQXy-02446-00524888-00525047 and under the protects that you are _Dg6YOfZQXy-02447-00525048-00525183 being protected and they're women who've _Dg6YOfZQXy-02448-00525184-00525318 been there for years _Dg6YOfZQXy-02449-00525319-00525631 and obviously the prison is not the the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02450-00525632-00525791 most friendly place in the world let _Dg6YOfZQXy-02451-00525792-00525862 alone _Dg6YOfZQXy-02452-00525863-00526159 the the fact that there is no assistance _Dg6YOfZQXy-02453-00526160-00526375 for you to be able to handle _Dg6YOfZQXy-02454-00526376-00526662 what you were running away from plus put _Dg6YOfZQXy-02455-00526663-00526839 on top of that the accumulation of _Dg6YOfZQXy-02456-00526840-00526895 stress _Dg6YOfZQXy-02457-00526896-00527191 and and and mental mental uh distress _Dg6YOfZQXy-02458-00527192-00527287 that can _Dg6YOfZQXy-02459-00527288-00527462 uh be caused by the fact of being in a _Dg6YOfZQXy-02460-00527463-00527679 detention literally in a detention _Dg6YOfZQXy-02461-00527680-00527735 center _Dg6YOfZQXy-02462-00527736-00528055 and suddenly from a victim you'll become _Dg6YOfZQXy-02463-00528056-00528231 a perpetrator of something that is not _Dg6YOfZQXy-02464-00528232-00528311 even named _Dg6YOfZQXy-02465-00528312-00528543 because technically if we punish someone _Dg6YOfZQXy-02466-00528544-00528655 we punish them for _Dg6YOfZQXy-02467-00528656-00528847 doing something but here you you what _Dg6YOfZQXy-02468-00528848-00529031 you did is that you escaped _Dg6YOfZQXy-02469-00529032-00529366 death maybe potentially or um or _Dg6YOfZQXy-02470-00529367-00529679 lifelong abuse or economic abuse or _Dg6YOfZQXy-02471-00529680-00530055 so there is the i think what's important _Dg6YOfZQXy-02472-00530056-00530303 um i i really like that you brought up _Dg6YOfZQXy-02473-00530304-00530455 the term state violence because i think _Dg6YOfZQXy-02474-00530456-00530622 what's important is to name things by _Dg6YOfZQXy-02475-00530623-00530695 their name _Dg6YOfZQXy-02476-00530696-00530870 to not pretend they're something else _Dg6YOfZQXy-02477-00530871-00531014 than what they are _Dg6YOfZQXy-02478-00531015-00531343 and um when it comes to protection of _Dg6YOfZQXy-02479-00531344-00531591 women's lives and bodies and health _Dg6YOfZQXy-02480-00531592-00531951 um very often the the concepts _Dg6YOfZQXy-02481-00531952-00532231 are there's kind of a disillusion and _Dg6YOfZQXy-02482-00532232-00532311 there is _Dg6YOfZQXy-02483-00532312-00532535 um the concepts are kind of fluid _Dg6YOfZQXy-02484-00532536-00532766 suddenly things are not what they are _Dg6YOfZQXy-02485-00532767-00533007 and that makes solving the problem more _Dg6YOfZQXy-02486-00533008-00533111 difficult _Dg6YOfZQXy-02487-00533112-00533431 so um and as an example _Dg6YOfZQXy-02488-00533432-00533703 is um as i said like when suddenly the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02489-00533704-00533799 survivor _Dg6YOfZQXy-02490-00533800-00534007 becomes someone who's accused and being _Dg6YOfZQXy-02491-00534008-00534175 detained instead of the person who _Dg6YOfZQXy-02492-00534176-00534343 perpetrated the violence _Dg6YOfZQXy-02493-00534344-00534718 or um when women are even questioned in _Dg6YOfZQXy-02494-00534719-00534959 a way that she needs to prove _Dg6YOfZQXy-02495-00534960-00535214 and i think this is a problem a global _Dg6YOfZQXy-02496-00535215-00535375 problem unfortunately still is that _Dg6YOfZQXy-02497-00535376-00535543 often in a lot of countries still _Dg6YOfZQXy-02498-00535544-00535791 women need to prove that what they're _Dg6YOfZQXy-02499-00535792-00535895 saying is _Dg6YOfZQXy-02500-00535896-00536095 is is true let's say that they were _Dg6YOfZQXy-02501-00536096-00536222 abused instead of _Dg6YOfZQXy-02502-00536223-00536551 the the perpetrator having to um _Dg6YOfZQXy-02503-00536552-00536959 um um let's say deny _Dg6YOfZQXy-02504-00536960-00537279 like it's just the other way around no _Dg6YOfZQXy-02505-00537280-00537439 and obviously that puts them under a _Dg6YOfZQXy-02506-00537440-00537683 very harsh questioning it looks like an _Dg6YOfZQXy-02507-00537684-00537831 investigation and _Dg6YOfZQXy-02508-00537832-00538087 often they will be even left in the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02509-00538088-00538239 household with the abuser they wouldn't _Dg6YOfZQXy-02510-00538240-00538543 even make it to the shelter _Dg6YOfZQXy-02511-00538544-00538791 or for instance the caseworker would _Dg6YOfZQXy-02512-00538792-00539014 disclose very sensitive information _Dg6YOfZQXy-02513-00539015-00539295 that the woman told the person you and _Dg6YOfZQXy-02514-00539296-00539487 use it for example to threaten the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02515-00539488-00539679 the abuser and then leave the woman with _Dg6YOfZQXy-02516-00539680-00539887 that abuser after the abuser knowing all _Dg6YOfZQXy-02517-00539888-00540039 that very sensitive information that _Dg6YOfZQXy-02518-00540040-00540214 could actually literally make him super _Dg6YOfZQXy-02519-00540215-00540295 mad and just _Dg6YOfZQXy-02520-00540296-00540639 you know and kill her which happened in _Dg6YOfZQXy-02521-00540640-00540903 some cases so _Dg6YOfZQXy-02522-00540904-00541318 um i guess it's it's important to _Dg6YOfZQXy-02523-00541319-00541575 just to finish the thought to stay _Dg6YOfZQXy-02524-00541576-00541727 vigilant not lose guard _Dg6YOfZQXy-02525-00541728-00541943 and not be afraid to call things by _Dg6YOfZQXy-02526-00541944-00542039 their name _Dg6YOfZQXy-02527-00542040-00542318 in order to potentially find solutions _Dg6YOfZQXy-02528-00542319-00542439 that are long lasting _Dg6YOfZQXy-02529-00542440-00542766 and that wouldn't be fragile _Dg6YOfZQXy-02530-00542767-00543111 and so that they're not taken away in a _Dg6YOfZQXy-02531-00543112-00543583 in a glance _Dg6YOfZQXy-02532-00543584-00544087 well thanks for this thought _Dg6YOfZQXy-02533-00544088-00544503 rajica um do you have any _Dg6YOfZQXy-02534-00544504-00544695 thoughts about state violence or you _Dg6YOfZQXy-02535-00544696-00544918 want to say something about _Dg6YOfZQXy-02536-00544919-00545111 transnational feminist exchange of _Dg6YOfZQXy-02537-00545112-00545647 knowledge _Dg6YOfZQXy-02538-00545648-00545903 we've witnessed state violence in most _Dg6YOfZQXy-02539-00545904-00546055 latent form in the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02540-00546056-00546279 you know what was unfolding during the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02541-00546280-00546479 lockdown _Dg6YOfZQXy-02542-00546480-00546679 in fact a health strategy that had gone _Dg6YOfZQXy-02543-00546680-00546783 wrong _Dg6YOfZQXy-02544-00546784-00547031 became a part of state violence in terms _Dg6YOfZQXy-02545-00547032-00547183 of what _Dg6YOfZQXy-02546-00547184-00547422 the workers particularly migraine _Dg6YOfZQXy-02547-00547423-00547639 workers were being subjected to _Dg6YOfZQXy-02548-00547640-00547895 and the humiliations public gaining a _Dg6YOfZQXy-02549-00547896-00548031 lot of these things _Dg6YOfZQXy-02550-00548032-00548270 uh and with impunity corporal _Dg6YOfZQXy-02551-00548271-00548447 punishments were being given _Dg6YOfZQXy-02552-00548448-00548743 uh state violence was uh you know it has _Dg6YOfZQXy-02553-00548744-00548783 become _Dg6YOfZQXy-02554-00548784-00549050 part of the structured violence as _Dg6YOfZQXy-02555-00549051-00549287 [Music] _Dg6YOfZQXy-02556-00549288-00549614 as even judicial judicial support _Dg6YOfZQXy-02557-00549615-00549855 for the workers were not available at _Dg6YOfZQXy-02558-00549856-00549959 another level _Dg6YOfZQXy-02559-00549960-00550270 uh what we do find is that _Dg6YOfZQXy-02560-00550271-00550511 this is a lot of things that have been _Dg6YOfZQXy-02561-00550512-00550670 won over after a long _Dg6YOfZQXy-02562-00550671-00550911 long struggles you know for instance the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02563-00550912-00551143 number of hours of work _Dg6YOfZQXy-02564-00551144-00551391 uh they're they've all got undermined in _Dg6YOfZQXy-02565-00551392-00551503 this period _Dg6YOfZQXy-02566-00551504-00551751 uh during the pandemic several laws have _Dg6YOfZQXy-02567-00551752-00551966 been _Dg6YOfZQXy-02568-00551967-00552303 brought in through ordinances uh whereby _Dg6YOfZQXy-02569-00552304-00552599 you know the labor laws have been _Dg6YOfZQXy-02570-00552600-00552775 transformed the hours of work have _Dg6YOfZQXy-02571-00552776-00552879 increased _Dg6YOfZQXy-02572-00552880-00553143 the the rights of labor workers to _Dg6YOfZQXy-02573-00553144-00553247 unionize _Dg6YOfZQXy-02574-00553248-00553399 there are enough many of these things _Dg6YOfZQXy-02575-00553400-00553655 have got have got undermined _Dg6YOfZQXy-02576-00553656-00553966 and uh what has been one has been _Dg6YOfZQXy-02577-00553967-00554270 taken away so uh so the state _Dg6YOfZQXy-02578-00554271-00554495 is operating on the interests of new _Dg6YOfZQXy-02579-00554496-00554622 liberal forces _Dg6YOfZQXy-02580-00554623-00554911 and consolidating it in consolidating _Dg6YOfZQXy-02581-00554912-00555143 the interests of the new liberal forces _Dg6YOfZQXy-02582-00555144-00555407 and uh it is willing to unleash state _Dg6YOfZQXy-02583-00555408-00555511 violence _Dg6YOfZQXy-02584-00555512-00555847 on uh on and there is a _Dg6YOfZQXy-02585-00555848-00556095 class violence a state another the state _Dg6YOfZQXy-02586-00556096-00556159 violence _Dg6YOfZQXy-02587-00556160-00556391 is as you mean the class violence is _Dg6YOfZQXy-02588-00556392-00556479 assuming _Dg6YOfZQXy-02589-00556480-00556727 uh is being perpetuated through state _Dg6YOfZQXy-02590-00556728-00556870 violence _Dg6YOfZQXy-02591-00556871-00557151 and uh that i mean that's the that's _Dg6YOfZQXy-02592-00557152-00557366 that's an unfortunate development that _Dg6YOfZQXy-02593-00557367-00557518 we are that's becoming more and more _Dg6YOfZQXy-02594-00557519-00557831 clear during the pandemic _Dg6YOfZQXy-02595-00557832-00558062 there is one that one question about _Dg6YOfZQXy-02596-00558063-00558262 regulating domestic workers of course _Dg6YOfZQXy-02597-00558263-00558359 it's the one it's _Dg6YOfZQXy-02598-00558360-00558591 extremely important because uh they _Dg6YOfZQXy-02599-00558592-00558831 represent one of the casual workers _Dg6YOfZQXy-02600-00558832-00559199 women over represent domestic work and _Dg6YOfZQXy-02601-00559200-00559335 they were they were the first to lose _Dg6YOfZQXy-02602-00559336-00559503 the jobs they've had to suffer terrible _Dg6YOfZQXy-02603-00559504-00559614 humiliations _Dg6YOfZQXy-02604-00559615-00559870 in fact you know they were they were _Dg6YOfZQXy-02605-00559871-00560087 first to be ousted from homes _Dg6YOfZQXy-02606-00560088-00560399 when the work went on when _Dg6YOfZQXy-02607-00560400-00560583 there was when there was suspicion of _Dg6YOfZQXy-02608-00560584-00560759 infections spreading _Dg6YOfZQXy-02609-00560760-00560999 and uh when they even when when they _Dg6YOfZQXy-02610-00561000-00561151 have returned back to work _Dg6YOfZQXy-02611-00561152-00561495 uh not only has uh the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02612-00561496-00561751 have their spaces and spheres of of _Dg6YOfZQXy-02613-00561752-00561927 mobility been restrained within the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02614-00561928-00562095 households that they're working in _Dg6YOfZQXy-02615-00562096-00562375 but also their arrival to the places of _Dg6YOfZQXy-02616-00562376-00562414 work _Dg6YOfZQXy-02617-00562415-00562751 all that has become constrained so _Dg6YOfZQXy-02618-00562752-00562943 as much as it is important to organize _Dg6YOfZQXy-02619-00562944-00563087 domestic workers _Dg6YOfZQXy-02620-00563088-00563359 what we you know what we do need to do _Dg6YOfZQXy-02621-00563360-00563470 is that you know the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02622-00563471-00563799 work even the health workers _Dg6YOfZQXy-02623-00563800-00563966 that's what i was arguing that even the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02624-00563967-00564118 health workers who are working within _Dg6YOfZQXy-02625-00564119-00564255 the government sector _Dg6YOfZQXy-02626-00564256-00564431 who are you know who have become the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02627-00564432-00564631 backbone of the pandemic care _Dg6YOfZQXy-02628-00564632-00564903 uh they are you know they have to _Dg6YOfZQXy-02629-00564904-00565070 struggle for a salary _Dg6YOfZQXy-02630-00565071-00565391 uh let alone they're not even they're _Dg6YOfZQXy-02631-00565392-00565527 not they're just being paid they're not _Dg6YOfZQXy-02632-00565528-00565679 even being paid a wage they're being _Dg6YOfZQXy-02633-00565680-00565855 paid an honorarium they're working as _Dg6YOfZQXy-02634-00565856-00565966 volunteers _Dg6YOfZQXy-02635-00565967-00566311 so uh regulations there are many kinds _Dg6YOfZQXy-02636-00566312-00566495 of regulations that are required _Dg6YOfZQXy-02637-00566496-00566839 and uh if you look at the kind of uh and _Dg6YOfZQXy-02638-00566840-00567103 the the case of scheme workers who are _Dg6YOfZQXy-02639-00567104-00567255 working as uh you know _Dg6YOfZQXy-02640-00567256-00567414 as volunt you know volunteers for _Dg6YOfZQXy-02641-00567415-00567583 honorarium uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-02642-00567584-00567751 is a classic case of you know how _Dg6YOfZQXy-02643-00567752-00567966 women's work is undermined _Dg6YOfZQXy-02644-00567967-00568303 uh even by a state which whose outlook _Dg6YOfZQXy-02645-00568304-00568559 uh is patriarchal who is willing to _Dg6YOfZQXy-02646-00568560-00568639 order you know _Dg6YOfZQXy-02647-00568640-00568879 who's willing to implement new liberal _Dg6YOfZQXy-02648-00568880-00568999 policies _Dg6YOfZQXy-02649-00569000-00569279 in the health sector and by you know by _Dg6YOfZQXy-02650-00569280-00569470 playing down the wages of women _Dg6YOfZQXy-02651-00569471-00569647 so i think a lot of regulation is _Dg6YOfZQXy-02652-00569648-00569775 required a lot of struggle and _Dg6YOfZQXy-02653-00569776-00570014 mobilization is required to _Dg6YOfZQXy-02654-00570015-00570335 to uh in new areas where women _Dg6YOfZQXy-02655-00570336-00570575 whether it's casual work but also in _Dg6YOfZQXy-02656-00570576-00570766 areas to you know also to preserve what _Dg6YOfZQXy-02657-00570767-00570903 has already been won _Dg6YOfZQXy-02658-00570904-00571095 because that is also being undermined _Dg6YOfZQXy-02659-00571096-00571262 through ordinances and laws as i have _Dg6YOfZQXy-02660-00571263-00571599 mentioned earlier _Dg6YOfZQXy-02661-00571600-00571910 well thank you i think we're already a _Dg6YOfZQXy-02662-00571911-00572103 little bit over time but maybe we can _Dg6YOfZQXy-02663-00572104-00572239 have _Dg6YOfZQXy-02664-00572240-00572631 very last words from you and then we _Dg6YOfZQXy-02665-00572632-00572966 wrap it up here um _Dg6YOfZQXy-02666-00572967-00573247 yeah maybe your final considerations but _Dg6YOfZQXy-02667-00573248-00573431 maybe also _Dg6YOfZQXy-02668-00573432-00573718 if you could like say what what kind of _Dg6YOfZQXy-02669-00573719-00573847 give you hope _Dg6YOfZQXy-02670-00573848-00574159 these days like to to to look forward a _Dg6YOfZQXy-02671-00574160-00574207 little bit _Dg6YOfZQXy-02672-00574208-00574375 to the next year so what gives you _Dg6YOfZQXy-02673-00574376-00574543 strengths is maybe _Dg6YOfZQXy-02674-00574544-00574799 it's maybe the more appropriate question _Dg6YOfZQXy-02675-00574800-00575022 um but maybe something you want to share _Dg6YOfZQXy-02676-00575023-00575559 with our audience before we go _Dg6YOfZQXy-02677-00575560-00575903 christina you want to start _Dg6YOfZQXy-02678-00575904-00576135 actually my answer to this would would _Dg6YOfZQXy-02679-00576136-00576270 uh be a little bit _Dg6YOfZQXy-02680-00576271-00576503 intersectional with the question about _Dg6YOfZQXy-02681-00576504-00576735 transnational networks _Dg6YOfZQXy-02682-00576736-00576943 i think what gave me strength it's _Dg6YOfZQXy-02683-00576944-00577295 actually a very hard question these days _Dg6YOfZQXy-02684-00577296-00577414 because as the end of the year _Dg6YOfZQXy-02685-00577415-00577575 approaches and as i have this heavy _Dg6YOfZQXy-02686-00577576-00577687 feeling in my heart that _Dg6YOfZQXy-02687-00577688-00577887 this is not a year that is supposed to _Dg6YOfZQXy-02688-00577888-00578214 be even be on the calendar _Dg6YOfZQXy-02689-00578215-00578518 as it was quite disastrous but what _Dg6YOfZQXy-02690-00578519-00578751 gives me strength i guess is to see _Dg6YOfZQXy-02691-00578752-00579159 um the struggle of fellow activists not _Dg6YOfZQXy-02692-00579160-00579343 only in jordan but also abroad _Dg6YOfZQXy-02693-00579344-00579695 and um to see also how much in these _Dg6YOfZQXy-02694-00579696-00579759 past _Dg6YOfZQXy-02695-00579760-00579999 past months where we were all kind of _Dg6YOfZQXy-02696-00580000-00580079 locked up _Dg6YOfZQXy-02697-00580080-00580383 in ourselves at home um _Dg6YOfZQXy-02698-00580384-00580727 how many um transnational _Dg6YOfZQXy-02699-00580728-00580927 panels they were there was out there and _Dg6YOfZQXy-02700-00580928-00581039 this is one of them _Dg6YOfZQXy-02701-00581040-00581295 how many attempts there was at sharing _Dg6YOfZQXy-02702-00581296-00581495 thoughts and and knowledge that is being _Dg6YOfZQXy-02703-00581496-00581743 produced on the go as we speak _Dg6YOfZQXy-02704-00581744-00582199 um how um _Dg6YOfZQXy-02705-00582200-00582503 how much like seeing also how much a lot _Dg6YOfZQXy-02706-00582504-00582662 of activists and organizations were _Dg6YOfZQXy-02707-00582663-00582822 overworked and still _Dg6YOfZQXy-02708-00582823-00583031 being able to push because there's out _Dg6YOfZQXy-02709-00583032-00583247 there who need support now and it's not _Dg6YOfZQXy-02710-00583248-00583559 um it's it's it's kind of also a _Dg6YOfZQXy-02711-00583560-00583743 response to a pandemic that's also _Dg6YOfZQXy-02712-00583744-00583983 uh frontline work you know it's not it's _Dg6YOfZQXy-02713-00583984-00584095 not only _Dg6YOfZQXy-02714-00584096-00584239 as euratic i mentioned it's not only _Dg6YOfZQXy-02715-00584240-00584407 about health care it's it's a lot of _Dg6YOfZQXy-02716-00584408-00584551 other things that we're going at the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02717-00584552-00584647 same time and _Dg6YOfZQXy-02718-00584648-00584951 seeing the courage and um _Dg6YOfZQXy-02719-00584952-00585262 and aspirations and capacities of all _Dg6YOfZQXy-02720-00585263-00585375 these people _Dg6YOfZQXy-02721-00585376-00585614 i think that's what gives me strength um _Dg6YOfZQXy-02722-00585615-00585775 sometimes it's not enough because the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02723-00585776-00585879 amount of anger _Dg6YOfZQXy-02724-00585880-00586175 and disappointment and frustration _Dg6YOfZQXy-02725-00586176-00586287 because of _Dg6YOfZQXy-02726-00586288-00586607 the not only the local but also regional _Dg6YOfZQXy-02727-00586608-00586855 and international situation on all _Dg6YOfZQXy-02728-00586856-00587047 levels be it economic social _Dg6YOfZQXy-02729-00587048-00587407 political you know it kind of makes it a _Dg6YOfZQXy-02730-00587408-00587743 very hard task to keep hopes up _Dg6YOfZQXy-02731-00587744-00588070 but um i guess it's a it's a matter of _Dg6YOfZQXy-02732-00588071-00588199 choice and if we choose life _Dg6YOfZQXy-02733-00588200-00589303 we choose resistance _Dg6YOfZQXy-02734-00589304-00589655 christina you're unmute i'm sorry _Dg6YOfZQXy-02735-00589656-00589822 i was just like i don't even know what _Dg6YOfZQXy-02736-00589823-00590095 to what to how to comment this i i would _Dg6YOfZQXy-02737-00590096-00590262 just let it stand in the room _Dg6YOfZQXy-02738-00590263-00590583 um but uh maybe radika you have some _Dg6YOfZQXy-02739-00590584-00590903 last words also _Dg6YOfZQXy-02740-00590904-00591191 i think these conversations are hopeful _Dg6YOfZQXy-02741-00591192-00591310 because _Dg6YOfZQXy-02742-00591311-00591566 a lot of us are uh these are difficult _Dg6YOfZQXy-02743-00591567-00591783 times across the world i mean we are _Dg6YOfZQXy-02744-00591784-00591862 seeing _Dg6YOfZQXy-02745-00591863-00592039 there's a consolidation of extremely _Dg6YOfZQXy-02746-00592040-00592222 conservative neoliberal forces on one _Dg6YOfZQXy-02747-00592223-00592366 side across the world _Dg6YOfZQXy-02748-00592367-00592679 and but there are also you know forces _Dg6YOfZQXy-02749-00592680-00592855 of resistance forces of _Dg6YOfZQXy-02750-00592856-00593255 of hope transformation and uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-02751-00593256-00593543 i think it's nice to understand and _Dg6YOfZQXy-02752-00593544-00593607 listen that _Dg6YOfZQXy-02753-00593608-00593743 of course you know across the world _Dg6YOfZQXy-02754-00593744-00593910 people are trying to _Dg6YOfZQXy-02755-00593911-00594239 change the spaces that we are living and _Dg6YOfZQXy-02756-00594240-00594631 working from so uh during the pandemic _Dg6YOfZQXy-02757-00594632-00594687 it was _Dg6YOfZQXy-02758-00594688-00595047 uh though it was interesting to see how _Dg6YOfZQXy-02759-00595048-00595231 the sanitation workers the health _Dg6YOfZQXy-02760-00595232-00595351 workers _Dg6YOfZQXy-02761-00595352-00595703 you know they continued their work _Dg6YOfZQXy-02762-00595704-00595862 they were you know everybody was locked _Dg6YOfZQXy-02763-00595863-00596103 up and but they continued to work _Dg6YOfZQXy-02764-00596104-00596310 and they made sure that you know that _Dg6YOfZQXy-02765-00596311-00596495 everybody was that was _Dg6YOfZQXy-02766-00596496-00596727 that that we could contin in spite of _Dg6YOfZQXy-02767-00596728-00596935 extremely difficult circumstances _Dg6YOfZQXy-02768-00596936-00597166 things were kind of falling apart _Dg6YOfZQXy-02769-00597167-00597262 falling _Dg6YOfZQXy-02770-00597263-00597495 during the lockdown and livelihoods were _Dg6YOfZQXy-02771-00597496-00597583 being lost _Dg6YOfZQXy-02772-00597584-00597775 but the diligence with which you know _Dg6YOfZQXy-02773-00597776-00597903 even _Dg6YOfZQXy-02774-00597904-00598207 poorly paid overworked _Dg6YOfZQXy-02775-00598208-00598439 under staffed health systems were _Dg6YOfZQXy-02776-00598440-00598599 operating sanitation systems were _Dg6YOfZQXy-02777-00598600-00598751 operating _Dg6YOfZQXy-02778-00598752-00599143 i mean the the power of people to _Dg6YOfZQXy-02779-00599144-00599391 want to want to ensure humanity _Dg6YOfZQXy-02780-00599392-00599575 continues and survives i think that's a _Dg6YOfZQXy-02781-00599576-00599662 beautiful _Dg6YOfZQXy-02782-00599663-00599918 thing to live with and that that is that _Dg6YOfZQXy-02783-00599919-00600031 that does give hope _Dg6YOfZQXy-02784-00600032-00600270 it was also hope and it was wonderful as _Dg6YOfZQXy-02785-00600271-00600447 i mentioned to see the humanity that _Dg6YOfZQXy-02786-00600448-00600518 came out _Dg6YOfZQXy-02787-00600519-00600751 when people organized spontaneously to _Dg6YOfZQXy-02788-00600752-00600951 organize relief for workers _Dg6YOfZQXy-02789-00600952-00601175 who were stranded who were trying to get _Dg6YOfZQXy-02790-00601176-00601287 back or _Dg6YOfZQXy-02791-00601288-00601599 doing that that does give hope what also _Dg6YOfZQXy-02792-00601600-00601903 does give hope is the fact that _Dg6YOfZQXy-02793-00601904-00602143 the you know the sites of protests that _Dg6YOfZQXy-02794-00602144-00602231 have emerged _Dg6YOfZQXy-02795-00602232-00602543 in this year i mean for us in india this _Dg6YOfZQXy-02796-00602544-00602814 year began with protests and this it _Dg6YOfZQXy-02797-00602815-00602975 seems it's closing with protests _Dg6YOfZQXy-02798-00602976-00603143 different kinds of protests _Dg6YOfZQXy-02799-00603144-00603335 there were protests over citizenship so _Dg6YOfZQXy-02800-00603336-00603470 protests over _Dg6YOfZQXy-02801-00603471-00603759 the labor rights and on farmers and as _Dg6YOfZQXy-02802-00603760-00603831 in the current _Dg6YOfZQXy-02803-00603832-00604207 circumstances uh they all these spaces _Dg6YOfZQXy-02804-00604208-00604527 there are women present and uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-02805-00604528-00604679 and women's questions are becoming _Dg6YOfZQXy-02806-00604680-00604918 important and uh there is care and _Dg6YOfZQXy-02807-00604919-00605214 concern that is visible in these places _Dg6YOfZQXy-02808-00605215-00605447 these protests have actually defied _Dg6YOfZQXy-02809-00605448-00605591 ageism _Dg6YOfZQXy-02810-00605592-00605855 you know and uh you know there are it's _Dg6YOfZQXy-02811-00605856-00606079 very very old women who are coming out _Dg6YOfZQXy-02812-00606080-00606318 and protesting and being present _Dg6YOfZQXy-02813-00606319-00606631 and the elderly people _Dg6YOfZQXy-02814-00606632-00606870 who are in elderly women it's very very _Dg6YOfZQXy-02815-00606871-00607103 you know _Dg6YOfZQXy-02816-00607104-00607414 people in their 70s and 80s and _Dg6YOfZQXy-02817-00607415-00607622 they're coming out and protest 80s _Dg6YOfZQXy-02818-00607623-00607718 protesting _Dg6YOfZQXy-02819-00607719-00608055 and with very young people i think _Dg6YOfZQXy-02820-00608056-00608207 the fact that you know people don't want _Dg6YOfZQXy-02821-00608208-00608431 to take things like lying down the fact _Dg6YOfZQXy-02822-00608432-00608487 that _Dg6YOfZQXy-02823-00608488-00608727 there is a desire to change uh the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02824-00608728-00608814 system that _Dg6YOfZQXy-02825-00608815-00609087 that there is another world possible _Dg6YOfZQXy-02826-00609088-00609310 that imagination does exist in spite of _Dg6YOfZQXy-02827-00609311-00609455 the fact that _Dg6YOfZQXy-02828-00609456-00609670 there is uh things are kind of getting _Dg6YOfZQXy-02829-00609671-00609910 so tough that does give hope _Dg6YOfZQXy-02830-00609911-00610351 i think one should not lose heart _Dg6YOfZQXy-02831-00610352-00610535 because it's not going to get us _Dg6YOfZQXy-02832-00610536-00610839 anywhere _Dg6YOfZQXy-02833-00610840-00611135 yeah no definitely definitely yeah i _Dg6YOfZQXy-02834-00611136-00611295 mean i can also just say _Dg6YOfZQXy-02835-00611296-00611503 what uh really brought me through the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02836-00611504-00611718 first months of this epidemic was to _Dg6YOfZQXy-02837-00611719-00611879 together with you that daughter to be _Dg6YOfZQXy-02838-00611880-00612039 able to you know _Dg6YOfZQXy-02839-00612040-00612279 edit this dossier and kind of bring _Dg6YOfZQXy-02840-00612280-00612391 together all these _Dg6YOfZQXy-02841-00612392-00612759 like voices of like really _Dg6YOfZQXy-02842-00612760-00613039 inspiring women from all over the world _Dg6YOfZQXy-02843-00613040-00613214 like _Dg6YOfZQXy-02844-00613215-00613414 sharing their reality and sharing their _Dg6YOfZQXy-02845-00613415-00613679 their realities of social struggle _Dg6YOfZQXy-02846-00613680-00613870 and like being able to to put a _Dg6YOfZQXy-02847-00613871-00614159 collection like this together was really _Dg6YOfZQXy-02848-00614160-00614551 um yeah it was a really _Dg6YOfZQXy-02849-00614552-00614831 kind of empowering experience i think _Dg6YOfZQXy-02850-00614832-00614879 and _Dg6YOfZQXy-02851-00614880-00615118 also these kinds of talks they always _Dg6YOfZQXy-02852-00615119-00615303 give us a little bit of sense that yeah _Dg6YOfZQXy-02853-00615304-00615359 we're _Dg6YOfZQXy-02854-00615360-00615607 you know we're not alone we we we are _Dg6YOfZQXy-02855-00615608-00615822 we're contributing to something bigger _Dg6YOfZQXy-02856-00615823-00616047 right and i think it's very important to _Dg6YOfZQXy-02857-00616048-00616303 kind of keep hold on this thought _Dg6YOfZQXy-02858-00616304-00616559 because yeah i mean it's also i mean _Dg6YOfZQXy-02859-00616560-00616679 it's not only the pandemic _Dg6YOfZQXy-02860-00616680-00616983 i mean look outside you know what 2020 _Dg6YOfZQXy-02861-00616984-00617014 and _Dg6YOfZQXy-02862-00617015-00617199 what they're trying to do with the kinds _Dg6YOfZQXy-02863-00617200-00617366 of rights that our mothers or even _Dg6YOfZQXy-02864-00617367-00617462 grandmothers have _Dg6YOfZQXy-02865-00617463-00617703 conquered already right and the kind of _Dg6YOfZQXy-02866-00617704-00617887 stuff we need to go on the streets these _Dg6YOfZQXy-02867-00617888-00617975 days _Dg6YOfZQXy-02868-00617976-00618247 to to to like what i always took for _Dg6YOfZQXy-02869-00618248-00618335 granted _Dg6YOfZQXy-02870-00618336-00618687 right um so _Dg6YOfZQXy-02871-00618688-00618895 yeah i think it's very important to be _Dg6YOfZQXy-02872-00618896-00618999 together and to _Dg6YOfZQXy-02873-00619000-00619351 share and also to to kind of _Dg6YOfZQXy-02874-00619352-00619527 what christina also mentioned you know _Dg6YOfZQXy-02875-00619528-00619703 to kind of take care of our heads _Dg6YOfZQXy-02876-00619704-00619839 to like invest in a little bit of _Dg6YOfZQXy-02877-00619840-00620079 self-care because we tend to forget that _Dg6YOfZQXy-02878-00620080-00620439 um but it's very important and _Dg6YOfZQXy-02879-00620440-00620718 well i just want to thank all of you uh _Dg6YOfZQXy-02880-00620719-00620807 for _Dg6YOfZQXy-02881-00620808-00621047 all your very inspirational words and _Dg6YOfZQXy-02882-00621048-00621151 your time _Dg6YOfZQXy-02883-00621152-00621399 i really want to thank the global _Dg6YOfZQXy-02884-00621400-00621622 feminism department it was a luxembourg _Dg6YOfZQXy-02885-00621623-00621831 especially alex um _Dg6YOfZQXy-02886-00621832-00622070 to making all of this possible and to _Dg6YOfZQXy-02887-00622071-00622151 being there _Dg6YOfZQXy-02888-00622152-00622407 throughout the process of putting _Dg6YOfZQXy-02889-00622408-00622622 together the dossier and also _Dg6YOfZQXy-02890-00622623-00622862 to you know connecting me with some of _Dg6YOfZQXy-02891-00622863-00623014 these amazing women such as radhika _Dg6YOfZQXy-02892-00623015-00623151 which i didn't know before _Dg6YOfZQXy-02893-00623152-00623510 this year and um yeah it has been _Dg6YOfZQXy-02894-00623511-00623679 it has been a rough year but it has been _Dg6YOfZQXy-02895-00623680-00623839 a good year in terms of _Dg6YOfZQXy-02896-00623840-00624151 like meeting really inspiring people _Dg6YOfZQXy-02897-00624152-00624287 and i think this is something we can _Dg6YOfZQXy-02898-00624288-00624518 always you know _Dg6YOfZQXy-02899-00624519-00624847 take take out of the situation _Dg6YOfZQXy-02900-00624848-00625159 how how bad it might be right you always _Dg6YOfZQXy-02901-00625160-00625359 you always meet someone you always meet _Dg6YOfZQXy-02902-00625360-00625535 someone who _Dg6YOfZQXy-02903-00625536-00625703 like will will give you some kind of _Dg6YOfZQXy-02904-00625704-00625943 idea that make you _Dg6YOfZQXy-02905-00625944-00626231 want to get up the next day right so and _Dg6YOfZQXy-02906-00626232-00626327 i think we _Dg6YOfZQXy-02907-00626328-00626479 yeah we have to look for what we have to _Dg6YOfZQXy-02908-00626480-00626655 get up and there's still lots of stuff _Dg6YOfZQXy-02909-00626656-00626895 that we need to solve in this world _Dg6YOfZQXy-02910-00626896-00627095 or that we need to defend in the first _Dg6YOfZQXy-02911-00627096-00627343 place that the stuff doesn't get worse _Dg6YOfZQXy-02912-00627344-00627703 so um thanks everybody for watching um _Dg6YOfZQXy-02913-00627704-00627959 again sign up to the newsletter read the _Dg6YOfZQXy-02914-00627960-00628095 articles under this year _Dg6YOfZQXy-02915-00628096-00628383 and uh have a good christmas and come _Dg6YOfZQXy-02916-00628384-00628510 good into the next year _Dg6YOfZQXy-02917-00628511-00628984 thank you guys so much bye _Flv-71S4lQ-00000-00000019-00000311 hi everybody my name is danica Joan and _Flv-71S4lQ-00001-00000312-00000698 welcome to custody matters live this is _Flv-71S4lQ-00002-00000699-00001040 a special edition because of course all _Flv-71S4lQ-00003-00001041-00001522 of the coronavirus conversations the _Flv-71S4lQ-00004-00001523-00001868 isolation like that this is something _Flv-71S4lQ-00005-00001869-00002090 that we're going to address and I have a _Flv-71S4lQ-00006-00002091-00002359 very special guest with me and we're _Flv-71S4lQ-00007-00002360-00002681 going to talk about this I have dr. mark _Flv-71S4lQ-00008-00002682-00003062 Rosemond welcome hello everybody hi _Flv-71S4lQ-00009-00003063-00003317 Danny Kaye thank you for having me yeah _Flv-71S4lQ-00010-00003318-00003670 this is this is an interesting time that _Flv-71S4lQ-00011-00003671-00003911 we live in because there's been so much _Flv-71S4lQ-00012-00003911-00004120 focus on coronavirus and I don't want to _Flv-71S4lQ-00013-00004121-00004328 just continue to focus more and more _Flv-71S4lQ-00014-00004329-00004597 about it but it's definitely impacted _Flv-71S4lQ-00015-00004598-00004793 our conference our conference that we're _Flv-71S4lQ-00016-00004794-00005309 having April 24th and 25th has create we _Flv-71S4lQ-00017-00005310-00005656 we have recreated it or creatively _Flv-71S4lQ-00018-00005657-00006041 adjusted to the circumstances so that _Flv-71S4lQ-00019-00006042-00006272 you know the most important thing that _Flv-71S4lQ-00020-00006273-00006713 our speakers and our whole planning team _Flv-71S4lQ-00021-00006714-00006983 have is you know we're a stand that _Flv-71S4lQ-00022-00006984-00007217 families that have equaled shared _Flv-71S4lQ-00023-00007218-00007548 parenting and making sure that children _Flv-71S4lQ-00024-00007550-00007805 have a loving relationship with both _Flv-71S4lQ-00025-00007806-00007991 parents and that's what we're stand for _Flv-71S4lQ-00026-00007992-00008539 so of course it's not an option to just _Flv-71S4lQ-00027-00008540-00008899 eliminate this conference it is not a _Flv-71S4lQ-00028-00008900-00009121 conference about widgets this is a _Flv-71S4lQ-00029-00009122-00009458 conference about lives and the future of _Flv-71S4lQ-00030-00009459-00009851 children and their parents so I've got _Flv-71S4lQ-00031-00009852-00010099 dr. mark Rosemond and I'm gonna have him _Flv-71S4lQ-00032-00010100-00010253 share a little bit about what he's gonna _Flv-71S4lQ-00033-00010254-00010438 be talking about but before that I'm _Flv-71S4lQ-00034-00010439-00010766 sure you're all curious what is the _Flv-71S4lQ-00035-00010767-00011201 newly created conference going to look _Flv-71S4lQ-00036-00011202-00011516 like so it's a prize I think we're gonna _Flv-71S4lQ-00037-00011517-00011726 have it as a virtual conference it's _Flv-71S4lQ-00038-00011727-00011969 going to look like we're going to have _Flv-71S4lQ-00039-00011970-00012214 I've got to really I've got about a _Flv-71S4lQ-00040-00012215-00012473 month to put this all together but we're _Flv-71S4lQ-00041-00012474-00012641 going to have each of the speakers _Flv-71S4lQ-00042-00012642-00013036 deliver their content just in the same _Flv-71S4lQ-00043-00013037-00013316 structure as the conference was designed _Flv-71S4lQ-00044-00013316-00013369 a _Flv-71S4lQ-00045-00013370-00013738 the 24th from 8:00 to 5:00 and then on _Flv-71S4lQ-00046-00013740-00014047 Saturday April 25th we were going to do _Flv-71S4lQ-00047-00014048-00014338 a panel discussion at the auditorium in _Flv-71S4lQ-00048-00014340-00014552 Lakeland Florida but now we're actually _Flv-71S4lQ-00049-00014553-00014852 gonna get on zoom' on a private zoom _Flv-71S4lQ-00050-00014853-00015241 meeting for those who are attending and _Flv-71S4lQ-00051-00015241-00015667 have conversations with all of the the _Flv-71S4lQ-00052-00015668-00015830 experts and stuff like that so I'm _Flv-71S4lQ-00053-00015831-00016081 pretty excited about how we're able to _Flv-71S4lQ-00054-00016082-00016459 shift it and one more thing is we're not _Flv-71S4lQ-00055-00016460-00016697 giving up on our live and in-person _Flv-71S4lQ-00056-00016698-00016936 conference we're actually going to move _Flv-71S4lQ-00057-00016937-00017192 it to November we're looking at some _Flv-71S4lQ-00058-00017193-00017539 dates in November so if you choose to _Flv-71S4lQ-00059-00017540-00017890 participate in the conference you get to _Flv-71S4lQ-00060-00017891-00018244 come to the in person I mean the online _Flv-71S4lQ-00061-00018245-00018547 one and April 24th and 25th and you also _Flv-71S4lQ-00062-00018548-00018899 get to attend our November conference so _Flv-71S4lQ-00063-00018900-00019277 it's actually like a two-for-one so talk _Flv-71S4lQ-00064-00019278-00019525 about making lemon lemonade out of _Flv-71S4lQ-00065-00019526-00020046 lemons that's that's our attempt because _Flv-71S4lQ-00066-00020047-00020355 we are unstoppable for the cause of _Flv-71S4lQ-00067-00020356-00020830 children all right mark do you like to _Flv-71S4lQ-00068-00020831-00021374 contribute shall I send you a blank _Flv-71S4lQ-00069-00021375-00022069 check I'm just so thrilled that you're _Flv-71S4lQ-00070-00022070-00022289 actually wanting my guest on the show _Flv-71S4lQ-00071-00022290-00022621 and I get to announce this because it _Flv-71S4lQ-00072-00022622-00022892 has been a struggle it really has been a _Flv-71S4lQ-00073-00022893-00023128 struggle with the planning team trying _Flv-71S4lQ-00074-00023129-00023305 to figure out well where do we go now _Flv-71S4lQ-00075-00023306-00023621 where do we negate - here and there do _Flv-71S4lQ-00076-00023622-00023930 we cancel it do we wait the Nano with _Flv-71S4lQ-00077-00023931-00024106 the possibility of canceling it and we _Flv-71S4lQ-00078-00024107-00024539 just decided in persons not going to _Flv-71S4lQ-00079-00024540-00024892 happen now but we're not going to _Flv-71S4lQ-00080-00024893-00025168 withhold information because family's _Flv-71S4lQ-00081-00025169-00025612 lives are in the balance I think this _Flv-71S4lQ-00082-00025613-00025868 whole effort and process Danica has _Flv-71S4lQ-00083-00025869-00026276 really reflected you as as I've known _Flv-71S4lQ-00084-00026277-00026660 you nearly 10 years and that is you know _Flv-71S4lQ-00085-00026661-00026760 the the dedicate _Flv-71S4lQ-00086-00026761-00027048 to really making a right from wrong and _Flv-71S4lQ-00087-00027049-00027204 you know you said you know making _Flv-71S4lQ-00088-00027205-00027564 lemonade from lemons and and I think _Flv-71S4lQ-00089-00027564-00027908 that that's a mission that that as as _Flv-71S4lQ-00090-00027909-00028377 parents we strive for as individuals in _Flv-71S4lQ-00091-00028377-00028970 our personal life our you know our our _Flv-71S4lQ-00092-00028971-00029352 goals are really to to sustain and _Flv-71S4lQ-00093-00029352-00029655 persevere and it's so hard and it's _Flv-71S4lQ-00094-00029656-00029880 increasingly difficult with major _Flv-71S4lQ-00095-00029881-00030255 national social change but I think what _Flv-71S4lQ-00096-00030256-00030417 you've done with this conference has _Flv-71S4lQ-00097-00030418-00031049 been very has been has been unique _Flv-71S4lQ-00098-00031050-00031415 because the the time requires a unique _Flv-71S4lQ-00099-00031416-00031770 response but also giving added value _Flv-71S4lQ-00100-00031770-00032223 which everyone should really and I think _Flv-71S4lQ-00101-00032224-00032693 find very very valuable because the the _Flv-71S4lQ-00102-00032694-00033002 ability to have access still to those _Flv-71S4lQ-00103-00033003-00033430 with very important messages relating to _Flv-71S4lQ-00104-00033431-00033833 co-parenting shared parenting and Family _Flv-71S4lQ-00105-00033834-00034170 Court and parental alienation and and _Flv-71S4lQ-00106-00034171-00034557 having perspective of life today within _Flv-71S4lQ-00107-00034558-00034826 now the set of challenges that that _Flv-71S4lQ-00108-00034827-00035333 present us both from the health and _Flv-71S4lQ-00109-00035334-00035762 public policy status and the political _Flv-71S4lQ-00110-00035763-00036461 changes and and so it I think more than _Flv-71S4lQ-00111-00036462-00036755 ever it's increasingly important that we _Flv-71S4lQ-00112-00036756-00036977 have as much information as regularly as _Flv-71S4lQ-00113-00036978-00037254 we can and having to conferences for the _Flv-71S4lQ-00114-00037255-00037626 price of one is really a very special _Flv-71S4lQ-00115-00037627-00038164 fall out that this coronavirus threat as _Flv-71S4lQ-00116-00038165-00038426 you know has broad and your _Flv-71S4lQ-00117-00038427-00038832 determination to maintain connection _Flv-71S4lQ-00118-00038833-00039482 with those who can most benefit from all _Flv-71S4lQ-00119-00039483-00039926 of the these very important speakers and _Flv-71S4lQ-00120-00039927-00040133 presentations _Flv-71S4lQ-00121-00040134-00040493 to later in the fall having a much more _Flv-71S4lQ-00122-00040494-00040930 personal opportunity to become even more _Flv-71S4lQ-00123-00040931-00041448 focused on potential answers and _Flv-71S4lQ-00124-00041449-00041780 potential changes in the way that we _Flv-71S4lQ-00125-00041781-00041985 live in the way that we relate with our _Flv-71S4lQ-00126-00041986-00042248 children the way that policyholders will _Flv-71S4lQ-00127-00042249-00042696 adapt to a social change I think is _Flv-71S4lQ-00128-00042697-00042986 really critical so I think that this is _Flv-71S4lQ-00129-00042987-00043271 this really is making lemonade from _Flv-71S4lQ-00130-00043272-00043739 lemons mm-hmm thank you yeah you know it _Flv-71S4lQ-00131-00043740-00043968 is it's gonna be it's the next few weeks _Flv-71S4lQ-00132-00043969-00044214 are gonna be a challenge because we're _Flv-71S4lQ-00133-00044215-00044520 asking the speakers the workshop leaders _Flv-71S4lQ-00134-00044521-00044829 actually to do double duty we're trying _Flv-71S4lQ-00135-00044830-00045133 to capture their presentations and _Flv-71S4lQ-00136-00045134-00045380 create it and deliver it in a format _Flv-71S4lQ-00137-00045381-00045761 that's you know that has freedom and _Flv-71S4lQ-00138-00045762-00046121 ease and flows well for you but also to _Flv-71S4lQ-00139-00046122-00046401 ask them all to come back in November _Flv-71S4lQ-00140-00046402-00046796 and I'm just I'm so humbled that with _Flv-71S4lQ-00141-00046797-00047108 you know the generosity of our speakers _Flv-71S4lQ-00142-00047109-00047518 and and our planning team because _Flv-71S4lQ-00143-00047519-00047933 nobody's getting paid here the and yet _Flv-71S4lQ-00144-00047934-00048258 where we have lots of we have lots of _Flv-71S4lQ-00145-00048259-00048579 expenses around putting the conference _Flv-71S4lQ-00146-00048580-00048768 on and and all that that have to be _Flv-71S4lQ-00147-00048769-00049155 taken care of what else is gonna say oh _Flv-71S4lQ-00148-00049156-00049286 and you know it another thing that's _Flv-71S4lQ-00149-00049287-00049439 good it's by November _Flv-71S4lQ-00150-00049440-00049620 they'll have we will have the _Flv-71S4lQ-00151-00049621-00049883 presidential election there's a lot of _Flv-71S4lQ-00152-00049884-00050033 water that's already gonna go into the _Flv-71S4lQ-00153-00050034-00050243 bridge by November so they'll actually _Flv-71S4lQ-00154-00050244-00050604 be some interesting developments I think _Flv-71S4lQ-00155-00050605-00050918 in the conference that had in November _Flv-71S4lQ-00156-00050919-00051251 versus the one that's presented in a few _Flv-71S4lQ-00157-00051252-00051755 weeks on in April so and I just - you _Flv-71S4lQ-00158-00051757-00051994 know reinforce for those listening _Flv-71S4lQ-00159-00051995-00052238 operationally your conference planning _Flv-71S4lQ-00160-00052239-00052657 team has been absolutely wonderful I've _Flv-71S4lQ-00161-00052658-00053144 and I appreciate you know being alerted _Flv-71S4lQ-00162-00053145-00053397 to you know the conversations and the _Flv-71S4lQ-00163-00053398-00053440 points _Flv-71S4lQ-00164-00053441-00053637 being made and I hadn't had the time to _Flv-71S4lQ-00165-00053638-00054129 participate as I would have preferred to _Flv-71S4lQ-00166-00054130-00054597 but but being aware of all everyone's _Flv-71S4lQ-00167-00054598-00055254 heart and mind and energy and working _Flv-71S4lQ-00168-00055255-00055873 together in in in making this effort to _Flv-71S4lQ-00169-00055874-00056205 to become realized and valuable I think _Flv-71S4lQ-00170-00056206-00056674 all your listeners now all those who _Flv-71S4lQ-00171-00056675-00056904 should know about this conference will _Flv-71S4lQ-00172-00056905-00057298 be most rewarded for all the work that _Flv-71S4lQ-00173-00057299-00057900 has been you know played out in making _Flv-71S4lQ-00174-00057901-00058188 this happen and responding to changes in _Flv-71S4lQ-00175-00058189-00058455 our you know in our society due to the _Flv-71S4lQ-00176-00058456-00058824 coronavirus yeah you know the thing is _Flv-71S4lQ-00177-00058825-00059079 is we have a choice and I tell people _Flv-71S4lQ-00178-00059080-00059268 you know we we're going to go through _Flv-71S4lQ-00179-00059269-00059667 the same circumstances you know whether _Flv-71S4lQ-00180-00059668-00059900 it's heavy traffic or it's whether it's _Flv-71S4lQ-00181-00059901-00060282 isolation or whatever but we do get a _Flv-71S4lQ-00182-00060283-00060511 choice on how we're going to go through _Flv-71S4lQ-00183-00060512-00060762 it we can go through it with with _Flv-71S4lQ-00184-00060763-00061188 anxiety and fear and anger and all of _Flv-71S4lQ-00185-00061189-00061500 those things or we can go through it and _Flv-71S4lQ-00186-00061501-00061810 just stop you know part of its the _Flv-71S4lQ-00187-00061811-00062157 resistance of what so that has a you _Flv-71S4lQ-00188-00062158-00062353 know just you know just like just like I _Flv-71S4lQ-00189-00062354-00062637 hate to use an analogy of the flu but _Flv-71S4lQ-00190-00062638-00062955 you know when I've had the flu in the _Flv-71S4lQ-00191-00062956-00063407 past it makes it when I am resisting _Flv-71S4lQ-00192-00063408-00063703 that that those feelings and stuff like _Flv-71S4lQ-00193-00063704-00063894 that when it actually has worse impact _Flv-71S4lQ-00194-00063895-00064297 when I'm resisting the fact that in _Flv-71S4lQ-00195-00064298-00064506 child exchange and stuff like that I'm _Flv-71S4lQ-00196-00064507-00064786 resisting the fact that my ex is so _Flv-71S4lQ-00197-00064787-00065199 aggravating I'm actually making it worse _Flv-71S4lQ-00198-00065200-00065428 on myself than to say this is the way it _Flv-71S4lQ-00199-00065429-00065791 is and then okay and I'm going to have _Flv-71S4lQ-00200-00065792-00066121 freedom and ease and peace peace in the _Flv-71S4lQ-00201-00066122-00066397 process and it makes the attitude is _Flv-71S4lQ-00202-00066398-00066546 everything _Flv-71S4lQ-00203-00066547-00067167 you know the the the Far East is known _Flv-71S4lQ-00204-00067168-00067730 for you know martial arts holistic _Flv-71S4lQ-00205-00067731-00068255 complementary medicine and ways of of _Flv-71S4lQ-00206-00068256-00069174 existing and there are several I'm not _Flv-71S4lQ-00207-00069175-00069435 sure what you might call them but for _Flv-71S4lQ-00208-00069436-00069768 instance breathing techniques through _Flv-71S4lQ-00209-00069769-00070200 Kazan if I say it correctly is something _Flv-71S4lQ-00210-00070201-00070473 that I think we should all google and _Flv-71S4lQ-00211-00070474-00070908 search on YouTube for how to best _Flv-71S4lQ-00212-00070909-00071310 breathe how to best open our our chest _Flv-71S4lQ-00213-00071311-00071514 and lung capacity which not only will _Flv-71S4lQ-00214-00071515-00071940 help us physiologically but also help us _Flv-71S4lQ-00215-00071941-00072474 mentally and and build our resistance _Flv-71S4lQ-00216-00072475-00072744 because it's our need for oxygen that is _Flv-71S4lQ-00217-00072745-00072924 critical and I'm reminding myself as I _Flv-71S4lQ-00218-00072925-00072987 say this _Flv-71S4lQ-00219-00072988-00073206 additionally in terms of looking at _Flv-71S4lQ-00220-00073207-00073596 energy Tai Chi a Tai Chi I think it's in _Flv-71S4lQ-00221-00073597-00074213 English ta I CH hi it is a way in which _Flv-71S4lQ-00222-00074214-00074675 what you said Danica made me think where _Flv-71S4lQ-00223-00074676-00074943 you move with the energy that's _Flv-71S4lQ-00224-00074944-00075252 addressed towards you you don't resist _Flv-71S4lQ-00225-00075253-00075696 it what you either deflect or or you _Flv-71S4lQ-00226-00075697-00075993 move to allow it to pass by you and I _Flv-71S4lQ-00227-00075994-00076334 came out of a martial art which was a _Flv-71S4lQ-00228-00076335-00076653 seemingly less aggressive form more of a _Flv-71S4lQ-00229-00076654-00076908 dance like approach to dealing with _Flv-71S4lQ-00230-00076909-00077268 hostile forces and Tai Chi actually is _Flv-71S4lQ-00231-00077269-00077630 an exercise that is used by many people _Flv-71S4lQ-00232-00077631-00078207 mostly in in on the Far East what it _Flv-71S4lQ-00233-00078208-00078573 helps keep one done and in shape but _Flv-71S4lQ-00234-00078574-00079128 it's not it's not meant to to to kill or _Flv-71S4lQ-00235-00079129-00079530 to harm it's meant to allow you to take _Flv-71S4lQ-00236-00079531-00079861 these negative energies and _Flv-71S4lQ-00237-00079862-00080158 and through movement you will deflect _Flv-71S4lQ-00238-00080159-00080434 them or otherwise absorb them without _Flv-71S4lQ-00239-00080435-00080778 having the you know the punishment that _Flv-71S4lQ-00240-00080779-00081073 that is wanting to inflict on you so I _Flv-71S4lQ-00241-00081074-00081259 think they have worn it as we have time _Flv-71S4lQ-00242-00081260-00081520 let's look at ki-jong which i think is _Flv-71S4lQ-00243-00081521-00081799 qu yxo ng and Taichi _Flv-71S4lQ-00244-00081800-00082144 ta da Zhi and I think that might help us _Flv-71S4lQ-00245-00082145-00082384 create a new mindset for ourselves I _Flv-71S4lQ-00246-00082385-00082510 like that _Flv-71S4lQ-00247-00082511-00082773 I really do I mean I like it it's a _Flv-71S4lQ-00248-00082774-00083410 you're not going to create by it's it's _Flv-71S4lQ-00249-00083411-00083761 just that common thing you can't be _Flv-71S4lQ-00250-00083762-00084118 fight hate with with fit hate you know _Flv-71S4lQ-00251-00084119-00084786 you you battle hate with love and yeah _Flv-71S4lQ-00252-00084787-00085126 and it would I don't know where I was _Flv-71S4lQ-00253-00085127-00085270 going with that but it's true it's true _Flv-71S4lQ-00254-00085271-00085513 you just you you take the force the _Flv-71S4lQ-00255-00085514-00085798 energy that you have available and just _Flv-71S4lQ-00256-00085799-00086212 use it and direct it and don't react I'm _Flv-71S4lQ-00257-00086213-00086584 big on saying don't you know act don't _Flv-71S4lQ-00258-00086585-00086854 react if you're reacting to something _Flv-71S4lQ-00259-00086855-00087034 you know when something comes your way _Flv-71S4lQ-00260-00087035-00087208 and you react you're pushing it away _Flv-71S4lQ-00261-00087209-00087490 that is not the best thing to do like _Flv-71S4lQ-00262-00087491-00087769 you said is is acting is seeing it _Flv-71S4lQ-00263-00087770-00088099 coming and just letting it let go _Flv-71S4lQ-00264-00088100-00088543 I get that wow that's Emporium oh so _Flv-71S4lQ-00265-00088544-00088822 right Danika it is it is empowering _Flv-71S4lQ-00266-00088823-00088978 because you're you know you're not at _Flv-71S4lQ-00267-00088979-00089158 the effect you're not the victim of the _Flv-71S4lQ-00268-00089159-00089500 circumstance you are you know there's _Flv-71S4lQ-00269-00089501-00089944 there's cause and effect you can be you _Flv-71S4lQ-00270-00089945-00090148 can be at the cause of your circumstance _Flv-71S4lQ-00271-00090149-00090316 if you don't have to be at the effect of _Flv-71S4lQ-00272-00090317-00090733 your circumstances and I know there's a _Flv-71S4lQ-00273-00090734-00091030 lot of deeper things underlying that _Flv-71S4lQ-00274-00091031-00091270 statement too sometimes because _Flv-71S4lQ-00275-00091271-00091393 sometimes it's hard to wrap your head _Flv-71S4lQ-00276-00091394-00091660 around it but it is true you can choose _Flv-71S4lQ-00277-00091661-00091939 things and when I have taught anger _Flv-71S4lQ-00278-00091940-00092376 management in the past I tried to get _Flv-71S4lQ-00279-00092377-00092845 the client to to just own something you _Flv-71S4lQ-00280-00092846-00093058 know because I get that when they go _Flv-71S4lQ-00281-00093059-00093229 into court a lot of times you _Flv-71S4lQ-00282-00093230-00093652 people you you end up on the short end _Flv-71S4lQ-00283-00093653-00093784 of the stick you're the one that ended _Flv-71S4lQ-00284-00093785-00093931 up getting in jail you're the one that _Flv-71S4lQ-00285-00093932-00094132 ended up having to take DV classes or _Flv-71S4lQ-00286-00094133-00094342 anger-management classes and stuff like _Flv-71S4lQ-00287-00094343-00094483 that and you're just mad and you're like _Flv-71S4lQ-00288-00094484-00094960 it's and then it's all about it's not my _Flv-71S4lQ-00289-00094961-00095263 fault it's this person's fault it's the _Flv-71S4lQ-00290-00095264-00095521 judges fault it's this a like okay so _Flv-71S4lQ-00291-00095522-00095767 that puts you in position being an a _Flv-71S4lQ-00292-00095768-00096091 victim of the circumstances a victim of _Flv-71S4lQ-00293-00096092-00096496 other people's choices and and _Flv-71S4lQ-00294-00096497-00096793 judgements and stuff like that but when _Flv-71S4lQ-00295-00096794-00097117 you start really looking at what can i _Flv-71S4lQ-00296-00097118-00097681 what can i claim you know what can i _Flv-71S4lQ-00297-00097682-00097924 take responsible for like for instance _Flv-71S4lQ-00298-00097925-00098374 he I had a client where they were I was _Flv-71S4lQ-00299-00098375-00098650 really sad it was really really sad _Flv-71S4lQ-00300-00098651-00098869 he was with his girlfriend and they were _Flv-71S4lQ-00301-00098870-00099133 say were living with her mom or her _Flv-71S4lQ-00302-00099134-00099535 grandmother or whatever and things got _Flv-71S4lQ-00303-00099536-00100021 really heated and the mom threatened to _Flv-71S4lQ-00304-00100022-00100291 throw his mother's ashes like on the _Flv-71S4lQ-00305-00100292-00100429 ground not that she did it but she _Flv-71S4lQ-00306-00100430-00100657 threatened to she threatened to because _Flv-71S4lQ-00307-00100658-00100846 she knew she was poking the bear she _Flv-71S4lQ-00308-00100847-00101008 knew she was gonna get a rise out of him _Flv-71S4lQ-00309-00101009-00101380 and if she did then she wins ah he ended _Flv-71S4lQ-00310-00101381-00101554 up going into jail he ended up in my _Flv-71S4lQ-00311-00101555-00101893 class and eyes like I hear your story _Flv-71S4lQ-00312-00101894-00102172 and I'm really sad that this has all _Flv-71S4lQ-00313-00102173-00102505 happened however how we do we shift you _Flv-71S4lQ-00314-00102506-00102927 from being a victim of this situation to _Flv-71S4lQ-00315-00102928-00103228 to something much more empowering and _Flv-71S4lQ-00316-00103229-00103484 part of it was just trying to get him to _Flv-71S4lQ-00317-00103485-00103986 own up to anything and I said well what _Flv-71S4lQ-00318-00103988-00104146 can you can you own up to the fact that _Flv-71S4lQ-00319-00104147-00104484 you chose this relationship can you own _Flv-71S4lQ-00320-00104485-00104668 up to the fact that you also chose _Flv-71S4lQ-00321-00104669-00104899 nobody drag you kicking and screaming _Flv-71S4lQ-00322-00104900-00105217 into her mom's home to live can you _Flv-71S4lQ-00323-00105218-00105370 choose that can you say that you _Flv-71S4lQ-00324-00105371-00105735 powerfully chose to do that the more you _Flv-71S4lQ-00325-00105736-00106054 start claiming that yep I chose that I _Flv-71S4lQ-00326-00106055-00106432 chose that I chose that you your power _Flv-71S4lQ-00327-00106433-00106611 you start getting your power _Flv-71S4lQ-00328-00106613-00106884 you're no longer a victim and it's the _Flv-71S4lQ-00329-00106885-00107113 Saint in it and sometimes it's really _Flv-71S4lQ-00330-00107114-00107511 hard to see especially when you're _Flv-71S4lQ-00331-00107513-00107857 dealing with an alienator who's _Flv-71S4lQ-00332-00107858-00108076 targeting you and just doing everything _Flv-71S4lQ-00333-00108077-00108533 they can to squash you and destroy you _Flv-71S4lQ-00334-00108534-00108913 it's important to say well let's see _Flv-71S4lQ-00335-00108914-00109201 what can I claim what can I own that I _Flv-71S4lQ-00336-00109202-00109582 chose even if it ended up badly ended up _Flv-71S4lQ-00337-00109583-00109803 being a bad choice at least you can say _Flv-71S4lQ-00338-00109804-00110202 I chose it starts giving you a little _Flv-71S4lQ-00339-00110203-00110523 bit more power a little bit more power _Flv-71S4lQ-00340-00110524-00110947 you know I often times think of what my _Flv-71S4lQ-00341-00110948-00111327 father frequently told me and that is _Flv-71S4lQ-00342-00111328-00111589 that you don't look backwards because _Flv-71S4lQ-00343-00111590-00111753 life doesn't go that way _Flv-71S4lQ-00344-00111754-00112168 but if we can take so that was Sydney _Flv-71S4lQ-00345-00112169-00112363 Roseman you know look backwards because _Flv-71S4lQ-00346-00112364-00112564 life doesn't go that way my father was a _Flv-71S4lQ-00347-00112565-00112803 product of the depression you know a _Flv-71S4lQ-00348-00112804-00113302 veteran of World War two and very _Flv-71S4lQ-00349-00113303-00113652 anti-semitism so you know overcame a lot _Flv-71S4lQ-00350-00113653-00113881 of stuff but he said don't look backward _Flv-71S4lQ-00351-00113882-00114193 because life doesn't go that way and and _Flv-71S4lQ-00352-00114194-00114678 and I say that that we do I only agree _Flv-71S4lQ-00353-00114679-00114933 with you I think everybody would and _Flv-71S4lQ-00354-00114934-00115318 does that know so much in our life is _Flv-71S4lQ-00355-00115319-00115536 based on our own our choosing _Flv-71S4lQ-00356-00115538-00115803 but we also should not take complete _Flv-71S4lQ-00357-00115804-00116085 responsibility in that we don't know _Flv-71S4lQ-00358-00116086-00116281 what other people's hot buttons are we _Flv-71S4lQ-00359-00116282-00116565 don't know what causes them to respond _Flv-71S4lQ-00360-00116566-00116784 to certain things that we may say or _Flv-71S4lQ-00361-00116785-00117124 that we may do and and we can't take _Flv-71S4lQ-00362-00117125-00117283 responsibility from that we can learn _Flv-71S4lQ-00363-00117283-00117864 from that and in in a dress be more _Flv-71S4lQ-00364-00117865-00118258 mindful and in in a dress less _Flv-71S4lQ-00365-00118258-00118597 frequently the those hot buttons that _Flv-71S4lQ-00366-00118598-00118802 others may have and which we ourselves _Flv-71S4lQ-00367-00118803-00119149 you know respond to in front many times _Flv-71S4lQ-00368-00119150-00119494 we are just blind to our own hot buttons _Flv-71S4lQ-00369-00119495-00119947 but so we have to learn so much of _Flv-71S4lQ-00370-00119948-00120265 who we are and who those that we love or _Flv-71S4lQ-00371-00120266-00120538 that our friends that we care about well _Flv-71S4lQ-00372-00120539-00120907 they are because we are all unique based _Flv-71S4lQ-00373-00120908-00121132 on our circumstances based on our _Flv-71S4lQ-00374-00121133-00121345 heritage based on our backgrounds based _Flv-71S4lQ-00375-00121346-00121560 on our life experience today there's so _Flv-71S4lQ-00376-00121561-00121969 much as that is spoken of with relation _Flv-71S4lQ-00377-00121970-00122367 to Asus childhood traumas that has been _Flv-71S4lQ-00378-00122368-00122658 examined for more than 60 years _Flv-71S4lQ-00379-00122658-00122980 childhood trauma is being addressed now _Flv-71S4lQ-00380-00122981-00123355 is something that is a greater universal _Flv-71S4lQ-00381-00123356-00123658 and what we should understand is that we _Flv-71S4lQ-00382-00123658-00123884 are all products of our environment and _Flv-71S4lQ-00383-00123885-00124303 and I often will quote Karl Menninger _Flv-71S4lQ-00384-00124304-00124764 who was one of the most forthcoming _Flv-71S4lQ-00385-00124765-00125077 forward-thinking pioneers in cha _Flv-71S4lQ-00386-00125078-00125320 psychiatry and he said what children see _Flv-71S4lQ-00387-00125321-00125542 at home they will do to society and I _Flv-71S4lQ-00388-00125543-00125776 think that if there's any rule to live _Flv-71S4lQ-00389-00125777-00126058 by and that's that observation what _Flv-71S4lQ-00390-00126058-00126181 children see at home _Flv-71S4lQ-00391-00126182-00126478 they will do to society create the _Flv-71S4lQ-00392-00126479-00126714 environment help your child make choices _Flv-71S4lQ-00393-00126715-00127000 empower your child help them learn about _Flv-71S4lQ-00394-00127001-00127335 themselves as they develop have them _Flv-71S4lQ-00395-00127336-00127591 become more conscious of what what they _Flv-71S4lQ-00396-00127592-00127782 are singing what they are doing _Flv-71S4lQ-00397-00127783-00128089 understanding why so that they can _Flv-71S4lQ-00398-00128090-00128455 become much more empowered in their own _Flv-71S4lQ-00399-00128456-00128711 behavior and in making even more _Flv-71S4lQ-00400-00128713-00129031 magnanimous choices that are going to _Flv-71S4lQ-00401-00129032-00129234 affect their lives and perhaps impact _Flv-71S4lQ-00402-00129235-00129550 others but they will learn from you and _Flv-71S4lQ-00403-00129551-00129868 so as a parent as a grandparent as an _Flv-71S4lQ-00404-00129869-00129973 aunt and uncle _Flv-71S4lQ-00405-00129974-00130120 you know our extended family is so _Flv-71S4lQ-00406-00130121-00130396 critical and if we are blessed to have _Flv-71S4lQ-00407-00130397-00130705 access to all of these members of such _Flv-71S4lQ-00408-00130706-00131008 family structure from the parents the _Flv-71S4lQ-00409-00131008-00131278 bio parents aunts and uncles extended _Flv-71S4lQ-00410-00131279-00131674 family grandparents all of us who have _Flv-71S4lQ-00411-00131675-00131995 those multiple roles should be mindful _Flv-71S4lQ-00412-00131996-00132373 of how we relate to to these children _Flv-71S4lQ-00413-00132374-00132622 you know in our family that may not be _Flv-71S4lQ-00414-00132623-00132823 our own children but they may be our _Flv-71S4lQ-00415-00132824-00132991 grandchildren they may be barnett nieces _Flv-71S4lQ-00416-00132992-00133339 and nephews they may be _Flv-71S4lQ-00417-00133340-00133708 you know related in in other ways we _Flv-71S4lQ-00418-00133709-00134074 have responsibilities you know you _Flv-71S4lQ-00419-00134075-00134359 pointed out it's truly you know how they _Flv-71S4lQ-00420-00134360-00134674 how things happen in your home will end _Flv-71S4lQ-00421-00134675-00134962 up bleeding over into society and how _Flv-71S4lQ-00422-00134963-00135469 people how adult children end up dealing _Flv-71S4lQ-00423-00135470-00135751 with their their spouses and their own _Flv-71S4lQ-00424-00135752-00135883 children it's just _Flv-71S4lQ-00425-00135884-00136219 and of course society as a whole mmm _Flv-71S4lQ-00426-00136220-00136717 I think that you know we all have trauma _Flv-71S4lQ-00427-00136718-00136951 from our childhood in some fashion it _Flv-71S4lQ-00428-00136952-00137230 may be something where they got lost at _Flv-71S4lQ-00429-00137231-00137416 the store you know and their parent _Flv-71S4lQ-00430-00137417-00137563 couldn't find them for a couple hours _Flv-71S4lQ-00431-00137564-00137833 you know that that can really be a _Flv-71S4lQ-00432-00137834-00137971 trigger when you're a little _Flv-71S4lQ-00433-00137972-00138160 seven-year-old or whatever maybe think _Flv-71S4lQ-00434-00138161-00138801 of an incident it's like you you can't _Flv-71S4lQ-00435-00138802-00139084 you can look at these situations and you _Flv-71S4lQ-00436-00139085-00139372 can say okay I recognize them I see how _Flv-71S4lQ-00437-00139373-00139630 it can it impacts me I can see how it _Flv-71S4lQ-00438-00139631-00140005 impacts my decisions and just being _Flv-71S4lQ-00439-00140006-00140287 aware of it gives you the power to _Flv-71S4lQ-00440-00140288-00140650 choose that or not that and you've got _Flv-71S4lQ-00441-00140651-00140833 and being careful not to live in that _Flv-71S4lQ-00442-00140834-00141172 what-if world the what-if world will _Flv-71S4lQ-00443-00141173-00141790 have you accidentally making choices in _Flv-71S4lQ-00444-00141791-00141942 the wrong direction _Flv-71S4lQ-00445-00141943-00142465 you know it's whether it's you know the _Flv-71S4lQ-00446-00142466-00142711 current state of affairs of oh my gosh _Flv-71S4lQ-00447-00142712-00143077 what if this and what if that and that _Flv-71S4lQ-00448-00143078-00143317 now you're like oh like the toilet paper _Flv-71S4lQ-00449-00143318-00143599 thing oh my gosh what if oh my gosh what _Flv-71S4lQ-00450-00143600-00143833 if I don't have any access to the toilet _Flv-71S4lQ-00451-00143834-00144040 paper so I'm going to take it all next _Flv-71S4lQ-00452-00144041-00144145 thing you know the people who really _Flv-71S4lQ-00453-00144146-00144421 need it or are impacted by your your _Flv-71S4lQ-00454-00144422-00144760 what-if fears and same thing with the _Flv-71S4lQ-00455-00144761-00145054 children a lot of times we we want to _Flv-71S4lQ-00456-00145055-00145300 protect the children and sometimes we _Flv-71S4lQ-00457-00145301-00145636 want to over protect them maybe even and _Flv-71S4lQ-00458-00145637-00145972 then that impact because maybe it is _Flv-71S4lQ-00459-00145973-00146353 that you grew up in abusive or _Flv-71S4lQ-00460-00146354-00146587 neglectful environment growing up so _Flv-71S4lQ-00461-00146588-00146671 then _Flv-71S4lQ-00462-00146672-00146824 when you become a parent you're like I _Flv-71S4lQ-00463-00146825-00147007 do not ever want my children to _Flv-71S4lQ-00464-00147008-00147172 experience what I went what I went _Flv-71S4lQ-00465-00147173-00147385 through so I'm going to overprotect _Flv-71S4lQ-00466-00147386-00147712 a minute you know I'm gonna live in fear _Flv-71S4lQ-00467-00147713-00147943 and overprotect and stuff like that next _Flv-71S4lQ-00468-00147944-00148140 thing you know the rate the impact on _Flv-71S4lQ-00469-00148141-00148300 the children is oh my god I feel so _Flv-71S4lQ-00470-00148301-00148672 suffocated stop you know like it we have _Flv-71S4lQ-00471-00148673-00148870 to be careful we're not reacting and _Flv-71S4lQ-00472-00148871-00149311 living in a what-if world yes yes and in _Flv-71S4lQ-00473-00149312-00149553 fact I I love that phrase I just wrote _Flv-71S4lQ-00474-00149554-00149602 that down _Flv-71S4lQ-00475-00149603-00149889 Danica I think it's I think I think _Flv-71S4lQ-00476-00149890-00150177 that's a blog post you should write what _Flv-71S4lQ-00477-00150178-00150451 if world I think in its or the title of _Flv-71S4lQ-00478-00150452-00150799 your next part what if the what if world _Flv-71S4lQ-00479-00150800-00150981 I think that's really wonderful because _Flv-71S4lQ-00480-00150982-00151432 you know it's like you know Franklin _Flv-71S4lQ-00481-00151433-00151843 Roosevelt former president wartime _Flv-71S4lQ-00482-00151844-00152125 president from World War two period and _Flv-71S4lQ-00483-00152126-00152302 helped bring this this country out of _Flv-71S4lQ-00484-00152303-00152608 the depression he said that there's _Flv-71S4lQ-00485-00152609-00152836 nothing to fear but fear itself if _Flv-71S4lQ-00486-00152837-00153373 that's the correct quote and and it's _Flv-71S4lQ-00487-00153374-00153549 he's really referring to the unknown _Flv-71S4lQ-00488-00153550-00153903 what what we know no matter how _Flv-71S4lQ-00489-00153904-00154740 devastating is it allows us to have have _Flv-71S4lQ-00490-00154741-00155113 a reality that indeed can be extremely _Flv-71S4lQ-00491-00155114-00155354 frightening and foreboding but we know _Flv-71S4lQ-00492-00155355-00155809 what that foreboding is you know we know _Flv-71S4lQ-00493-00155810-00156499 what is frightening and and oftentimes _Flv-71S4lQ-00494-00156500-00156810 it's you know we have experiences where _Flv-71S4lQ-00495-00156811-00157219 we may have a lot of fear for instance _Flv-71S4lQ-00496-00157220-00157464 going to a doctor's office if you _Flv-71S4lQ-00497-00157465-00157597 remember as a kid and you're very _Flv-71S4lQ-00498-00157598-00157777 getting a shot maybe don't get a shot _Flv-71S4lQ-00499-00157778-00158028 final attack dogs that I feel terrific I _Flv-71S4lQ-00500-00158029-00158260 didn't get a shot today or you had a _Flv-71S4lQ-00501-00158261-00158449 shot and he had you look the other way _Flv-71S4lQ-00502-00158450-00158587 and he said it's done _Flv-71S4lQ-00503-00158588-00158877 and you're waiting to feel it and you _Flv-71S4lQ-00504-00158878-00159226 didn't feel the pinch but there are _Flv-71S4lQ-00505-00159227-00159495 other circumstances where we have fears _Flv-71S4lQ-00506-00159496-00159823 based on what we think not based on _Flv-71S4lQ-00507-00159824-00160072 realities and this is much of why _Flv-71S4lQ-00508-00160073-00160321 and it's very reasonable to be afraid of _Flv-71S4lQ-00509-00160322-00160672 what we don't know absolutely and I _Flv-71S4lQ-00510-00160673-00160870 think there's nothing more fearful in _Flv-71S4lQ-00511-00160871-00161197 fact that's what Roosevelt had said _Flv-71S4lQ-00512-00161198-00161728 Franklin Roosevelt he said what we have _Flv-71S4lQ-00513-00161729-00162129 to fear is fear itself and and so that _Flv-71S4lQ-00514-00162130-00162586 means truth allows us to think of okay _Flv-71S4lQ-00515-00162587-00162985 plan a plan B Plan C and we have to deal _Flv-71S4lQ-00516-00162986-00163399 with the realities and you know it's it _Flv-71S4lQ-00517-00163400-00163894 may it may not take away our fright but _Flv-71S4lQ-00518-00163895-00164281 it gives us time to think okay so what _Flv-71S4lQ-00519-00164282-00164829 should we do and I think you know _Flv-71S4lQ-00520-00164830-00164998 everything is about that kind of _Flv-71S4lQ-00521-00164999-00165301 perspective and and it's not easy when _Flv-71S4lQ-00522-00165302-00165571 you allow yourself to react as you were _Flv-71S4lQ-00523-00165572-00166114 saying earlier and not to act yeah life _Flv-71S4lQ-00524-00166115-00166440 becomes more difficult yeah _Flv-71S4lQ-00525-00166441-00166777 it really does and you're focusing on _Flv-71S4lQ-00526-00166778-00166993 what's going on over there instead of _Flv-71S4lQ-00527-00166994-00167389 focusing on on yourself and grounding _Flv-71S4lQ-00528-00167390-00167728 yourself and in centering yourself and _Flv-71S4lQ-00529-00167729-00168157 what's real what's so you know what so _Flv-71S4lQ-00530-00168158-00168526 is I have a roof over my head what so is _Flv-71S4lQ-00531-00168527-00168736 you know I have gas in my car _Flv-71S4lQ-00532-00168737-00169234 what so is you know even the children I _Flv-71S4lQ-00533-00169235-00169459 don't have contact with the children _Flv-71S4lQ-00534-00169460-00170020 right now that's what's so and then you _Flv-71S4lQ-00535-00170021-00170269 can start creating but if you have oh my _Flv-71S4lQ-00536-00170270-00170506 god I'm gonna get kicked out of my house _Flv-71S4lQ-00537-00170507-00170766 oh my god I'm gonna run out of gas oh my _Flv-71S4lQ-00538-00170767-00171053 god I'll never see my kids again _Flv-71S4lQ-00539-00171054-00171451 one is disempowering the other one it _Flv-71S4lQ-00540-00171452-00171678 builds things on a solid foundation of _Flv-71S4lQ-00541-00171679-00172219 grounding so all right so I our time is _Flv-71S4lQ-00542-00172220-00172570 wrapping up I wanna I'm super excited _Flv-71S4lQ-00543-00172571-00172822 about you being one of our speakers at _Flv-71S4lQ-00544-00172823-00173039 the Guardians and gatekeepers _Flv-71S4lQ-00545-00173040-00173516 that's happening not once but twice and _Flv-71S4lQ-00546-00173517-00173658 two are going to be very uniquely _Flv-71S4lQ-00547-00173659-00173726 different _Flv-71S4lQ-00548-00173727-00174132 this one is April 24th and 25th and it's _Flv-71S4lQ-00549-00174133-00174450 going to be online and so if you _Flv-71S4lQ-00550-00174451-00174807 register for this event ahead of time _Flv-71S4lQ-00551-00174808-00175056 you get to go to two you get two for one _Flv-71S4lQ-00552-00175057-00175293 you get to go to the online virtual _Flv-71S4lQ-00553-00175294-00175497 conference and then you get an _Flv-71S4lQ-00554-00175498-00175758 invitation to our November our live _Flv-71S4lQ-00555-00175759-00175964 November conference happening in _Flv-71S4lQ-00556-00175965-00176418 Lakeland Florida so yeah I'm excited I'm _Flv-71S4lQ-00557-00176419-00176550 super excited about this _Flv-71S4lQ-00558-00176551-00176729 thank you for mark for coming on the _Flv-71S4lQ-00559-00176730-00177285 show thank you Danika always a pleasure _Flv-71S4lQ-00560-00177286-00177536 and it's always a learning experience _Flv-71S4lQ-00561-00177537-00177945 thank you all right that that does it _Flv-71S4lQ-00562-00177946-00178154 for us on custody matters live we will _Flv-71S4lQ-00563-00178155-00178451 see you again next Wednesday at 7:30 _Flv-71S4lQ-00564-00178452-00178698 Eastern Standard Time have a great _Flv-71S4lQ-00565-00178699-00178913 evening _H_ARZZvlQo-00000-00000029-00000191 I want to start this video with the only _H_ARZZvlQo-00001-00000192-00000437 physics joke I know so so the joke _H_ARZZvlQo-00002-00000438-00000695 begins this way there is there's a dairy _H_ARZZvlQo-00003-00000696-00001012 farm _H_ARZZvlQo-00004-00001013-00001187 that is having trouble producing milk _H_ARZZvlQo-00005-00001188-00001408 and so so they call in these three _H_ARZZvlQo-00006-00001409-00001702 Consultants they call in they call in _H_ARZZvlQo-00007-00001703-00001930 an engineer _H_ARZZvlQo-00008-00001932-00002218 a psychologist _H_ARZZvlQo-00009-00002219-00002471 and a physicist _H_ARZZvlQo-00010-00002472-00002681 they ask them to look at the farm for a _H_ARZZvlQo-00011-00002682-00002849 week and then come back and give _H_ARZZvlQo-00012-00002850-00003058 suggestions so so the first one they _H_ARZZvlQo-00013-00003059-00003251 call in is the engineer and the engineer _H_ARZZvlQo-00014-00003252-00003467 says that you know what the milking _H_ARZZvlQo-00015-00003468-00003677 tubes the milking tubes through which _H_ARZZvlQo-00016-00003678-00003869 the milk flows should be just forty _H_ARZZvlQo-00017-00003870-00004127 percent forty percent wider so that _H_ARZZvlQo-00018-00004128-00004313 becomes more efficient and so on then _H_ARZZvlQo-00019-00004314-00004570 the psychologist whose God says uh the _H_ARZZvlQo-00020-00004571-00004720 psychologist says you should paint the _H_ARZZvlQo-00021-00004721-00005045 barn paint the barn the the insides or _H_ARZZvlQo-00022-00005046-00005381 the cows are kept painted green _H_ARZZvlQo-00023-00005382-00005717 psychologist says painted green as it's _H_ARZZvlQo-00024-00005718-00005872 a nice color and the cows will be _H_ARZZvlQo-00025-00005873-00006088 happier and they'll make more milk so _H_ARZZvlQo-00026-00006089-00006293 then they finally call the physicist who _H_ARZZvlQo-00027-00006294-00006509 demands who demands a Blackboard _H_ARZZvlQo-00028-00006509-00006851 and the physicist says okay assume that _H_ARZZvlQo-00029-00006852-00007127 the cow is a sphere _H_ARZZvlQo-00030-00007128-00007355 and that's the joke but I but I want to _H_ARZZvlQo-00031-00007356-00007528 show that's that's that's not really _H_ARZZvlQo-00032-00007529-00007775 silly what the physicist did here was _H_ARZZvlQo-00033-00007776-00008081 approximate the shape of the cow by a _H_ARZZvlQo-00034-00008081-00008296 spherical model and we will come back to _H_ARZZvlQo-00035-00008297-00008560 this we will extend this idea we will _H_ARZZvlQo-00036-00008561-00008764 take the spherical cows forward and _H_ARZZvlQo-00037-00008765-00009023 answer a big question like why are _H_ARZZvlQo-00038-00009024-00009341 mammals as large as they are and not _H_ARZZvlQo-00039-00009342-00009641 much larger or or why they dinosaurs _H_ARZZvlQo-00040-00009642-00009971 have a smaller head to body size ratio _H_ARZZvlQo-00041-00009972-00010145 compared to compared to let's say a _H_ARZZvlQo-00042-00010146-00010403 dolphin or a whale all this with just a _H_ARZZvlQo-00043-00010404-00010564 simple model which gives some _H_ARZZvlQo-00044-00010565-00010846 approximation to the shape of the cow _H_ARZZvlQo-00045-00010847-00011033 now before we answer that question let's _H_ARZZvlQo-00046-00011034-00011206 understand the meaning of two words _H_ARZZvlQo-00047-00011207-00011501 model and approximations so what is a _H_ARZZvlQo-00048-00011502-00011777 model in the context of physics let me _H_ARZZvlQo-00049-00011778-00011903 show it right away so we can say that _H_ARZZvlQo-00050-00011904-00012196 this is a version this is a version of _H_ARZZvlQo-00051-00012197-00012401 a real _H_ARZZvlQo-00052-00012402-00012742 physical system or thing _H_ARZZvlQo-00053-00012743-00012916 system can be a collection of objects _H_ARZZvlQo-00054-00012917-00013072 can be one object so I'm just writing _H_ARZZvlQo-00055-00013073-00013499 system slash object slash thing version _H_ARZZvlQo-00056-00013500-00013783 of real physical system object or thing _H_ARZZvlQo-00057-00013784-00014185 which provides _H_ARZZvlQo-00058-00014186-00014477 approximate let's write approximate with _H_ARZZvlQo-00059-00014478-00014719 a different color which provides _H_ARZZvlQo-00060-00014719-00015143 approximate descriptions of that real _H_ARZZvlQo-00061-00015144-00015527 physical system object slash thing all _H_ARZZvlQo-00062-00015528-00015707 right so model is not the real thing _H_ARZZvlQo-00063-00015708-00015935 it's something closer to a real thing a _H_ARZZvlQo-00064-00015936-00016121 quick example of models in the context _H_ARZZvlQo-00065-00016122-00016366 of architecture could be these smaller _H_ARZZvlQo-00066-00016368-00016708 models of houses buildings of course _H_ARZZvlQo-00067-00016709-00016900 they're not the real thing but they are _H_ARZZvlQo-00068-00016901-00017033 still giving us a lot of insight into _H_ARZZvlQo-00069-00017034-00017261 what the real thing is how it could look _H_ARZZvlQo-00070-00017262-00017435 like or how much how much space it might _H_ARZZvlQo-00071-00017436-00017633 have so it's really it's really giving _H_ARZZvlQo-00072-00017634-00017891 us approximate descriptions approximate _H_ARZZvlQo-00073-00017892-00018047 descriptions that brings us to the _H_ARZZvlQo-00074-00018048-00018208 meaning of the word approximate so _H_ARZZvlQo-00075-00018209-00018371 approximate we can say that this is _H_ARZZvlQo-00076-00018372-00018491 anything _H_ARZZvlQo-00077-00018492-00018844 that is similar but not exactly the same _H_ARZZvlQo-00078-00018845-00019049 to something else _H_ARZZvlQo-00079-00019050-00019222 now let's pick an example from physics _H_ARZZvlQo-00080-00019223-00019517 so let me let me hide oops _H_ARZZvlQo-00081-00019518-00019757 let me hide just this _H_ARZZvlQo-00082-00019758-00019949 let's say let's say we take a cricket _H_ARZZvlQo-00083-00019950-00020164 ball which is moving to the right and we _H_ARZZvlQo-00084-00020165-00020339 are interested in figuring out its _H_ARZZvlQo-00085-00020340-00020555 velocity after some time _H_ARZZvlQo-00086-00020556-00020777 there is some air resistance ball is _H_ARZZvlQo-00087-00020778-00020950 facing some air resistance let me write _H_ARZZvlQo-00088-00020951-00021257 that as AR ball has its own weight and _H_ARZZvlQo-00089-00021258-00021407 it's possible that the ball could be _H_ARZZvlQo-00090-00021408-00021653 rotating this ball is rotating about its _H_ARZZvlQo-00091-00021654-00021863 Center and it's also possible that the _H_ARZZvlQo-00092-00021864-00022049 ball is not a perfect sphere it could be _H_ARZZvlQo-00093-00022050-00022313 tapered from the top and also this this _H_ARZZvlQo-00094-00022314-00022505 weight which is due to the gravitational _H_ARZZvlQo-00095-00022506-00022744 force this depends on the height from _H_ARZZvlQo-00096-00022745-00022925 the surface of the Earth so if this ball _H_ARZZvlQo-00097-00022926-00023153 is going up it's going down there will _H_ARZZvlQo-00098-00023154-00023285 be some change in the gravitational _H_ARZZvlQo-00099-00023286-00023507 force on the ball and therefore there _H_ARZZvlQo-00100-00023508-00023711 will be some change in the weight very _H_ARZZvlQo-00101-00023712-00023963 extremely ridiculously small but still _H_ARZZvlQo-00102-00023964-00024197 there will be some change all of these _H_ARZZvlQo-00103-00024198-00024358 variables all of these things they make _H_ARZZvlQo-00104-00024359-00024533 the entire situation very complicated _H_ARZZvlQo-00105-00024534-00024791 too difficult to be analyzed and that's _H_ARZZvlQo-00106-00024792-00025067 what a real system is with all its _H_ARZZvlQo-00107-00025068-00025264 beauty and glory with all its details _H_ARZZvlQo-00108-00025265-00025517 it's it's very difficult so what _H_ARZZvlQo-00109-00025518-00025720 physicists do instead is that they _H_ARZZvlQo-00110-00025722-00025955 create a model they create a version of _H_ARZZvlQo-00111-00025956-00026170 this real thing which will provide us _H_ARZZvlQo-00112-00026172-00026399 with some approximate descriptions and _H_ARZZvlQo-00113-00026400-00026549 let's say in this case we are interested _H_ARZZvlQo-00114-00026550-00026740 in figuring out the velocity of the ball _H_ARZZvlQo-00115-00026741-00027017 after some time so for this one what we _H_ARZZvlQo-00116-00027018-00027233 can do is we can create a particle model _H_ARZZvlQo-00117-00027233-00027418 we'll just represent the ball with a _H_ARZZvlQo-00118-00027419-00027683 point with a point this is this is the _H_ARZZvlQo-00119-00027683-00027868 physical model this is the physical _H_ARZZvlQo-00120-00027869-00028151 model and here we can assume a couple of _H_ARZZvlQo-00121-00028152-00028343 things we can say that the weight the _H_ARZZvlQo-00122-00028344-00028631 weight of the ball is not changing we _H_ARZZvlQo-00123-00028632-00028835 can ignore air resistance we can assume _H_ARZZvlQo-00124-00028836-00029051 that it is moving in a vacuum and then _H_ARZZvlQo-00125-00029052-00029290 we can analyze the velocity also since _H_ARZZvlQo-00126-00029291-00029543 this is a point object not an object _H_ARZZvlQo-00127-00029544-00029711 with Dimensions there is no scope of _H_ARZZvlQo-00128-00029712-00029831 rotation _H_ARZZvlQo-00129-00029832-00030017 and why did we really ignore air _H_ARZZvlQo-00130-00030018-00030179 resistance and assume that the weight is _H_ARZZvlQo-00131-00030180-00030358 constant now that is really a skill _H_ARZZvlQo-00132-00030360-00030611 which which physicists develop which _H_ARZZvlQo-00133-00030612-00030845 thing to ignore which thing that could _H_ARZZvlQo-00134-00030845-00031085 be ignored which will not affect what _H_ARZZvlQo-00135-00031086-00031277 I'm interested in I'm interested in _H_ARZZvlQo-00136-00031277-00031481 figuring out the velocity it turns out _H_ARZZvlQo-00137-00031482-00031762 even if we do include the factor of air _H_ARZZvlQo-00138-00031763-00032008 resistance yes we will get an answer _H_ARZZvlQo-00139-00032010-00032267 which is more accurate but the change _H_ARZZvlQo-00140-00032268-00032512 between that answer and the answer that _H_ARZZvlQo-00141-00032513-00032711 you will get from this situation doesn't _H_ARZZvlQo-00142-00032712-00032927 really differ that much the same goes _H_ARZZvlQo-00143-00032928-00033101 with weight even even if you do not _H_ARZZvlQo-00144-00033102-00033268 consider the weight to be as a constant _H_ARZZvlQo-00145-00033269-00033581 yes the answer will be closer to reality _H_ARZZvlQo-00146-00033582-00033857 but if we consider it as a constant it's _H_ARZZvlQo-00147-00033858-00034096 not really changing things by much so _H_ARZZvlQo-00148-00034097-00034385 this model it provides some approximate _H_ARZZvlQo-00149-00034386-00034624 descriptions things that are similar but _H_ARZZvlQo-00150-00034625-00034846 not exactly the same to something else _H_ARZZvlQo-00151-00034847-00035033 and these descriptions here would be _H_ARZZvlQo-00152-00035034-00035273 having one weight one constant weight uh _H_ARZZvlQo-00153-00035274-00035561 one velocity Point object and completely _H_ARZZvlQo-00154-00035562-00035771 ignoring air resistance because they do _H_ARZZvlQo-00155-00035772-00035999 not really influence the final velocity _H_ARZZvlQo-00156-00036000-00036118 by much _H_ARZZvlQo-00157-00036119-00036340 so the big idea is that when when _H_ARZZvlQo-00158-00036341-00036568 physicists they model a real physical _H_ARZZvlQo-00159-00036569-00036790 situation there may be a large number of _H_ARZZvlQo-00160-00036791-00036983 aspects that might influence the _H_ARZZvlQo-00161-00036984-00037157 situation but if you consider all the _H_ARZZvlQo-00162-00037158-00037385 factors Things become complicated so you _H_ARZZvlQo-00163-00037386-00037643 neglect the less influential parts of it _H_ARZZvlQo-00164-00037644-00037912 such as we neglected air resistance here _H_ARZZvlQo-00165-00037913-00038195 and then and try to analyze the motion _H_ARZZvlQo-00166-00038196-00038387 all right now let's go back to our _H_ARZZvlQo-00167-00038388-00038602 spherical cows _H_ARZZvlQo-00168-00038603-00038759 so the question that I want to ask is _H_ARZZvlQo-00169-00038760-00038962 why if you're running a dairy farm why _H_ARZZvlQo-00170-00038963-00039233 don't you make super cows cows which are _H_ARZZvlQo-00171-00039234-00039574 toys as big toys as big as this cow and _H_ARZZvlQo-00172-00039575-00039718 how would a super cow really look like _H_ARZZvlQo-00173-00039719-00040109 this is yes this super cow _H_ARZZvlQo-00174-00040110-00040439 this is your Sue how do you draw this _H_ARZZvlQo-00175-00040440-00040762 let's just take this this is approximate _H_ARZZvlQo-00176-00040763-00040979 description of the Superman logo so _H_ARZZvlQo-00177-00040980-00041183 super cow normal cow and what's the _H_ARZZvlQo-00178-00041184-00041315 difference between them we can we can _H_ARZZvlQo-00179-00041316-00041501 say that one is toys as big as the other _H_ARZZvlQo-00180-00041502-00041717 but what do we really mean here well the _H_ARZZvlQo-00181-00041718-00041957 super cow is toys a size but is it toys _H_ARZZvlQo-00182-00041958-00042233 as big how much more does it weigh for _H_ARZZvlQo-00183-00042234-00042533 example if if this cow's weight is I _H_ARZZvlQo-00184-00042534-00042673 don't know around _H_ARZZvlQo-00185-00042674-00042995 two 200 kilograms does it mean that this _H_ARZZvlQo-00186-00042996-00043277 car weighs 400 well if the cows are made _H_ARZZvlQo-00187-00043278-00043462 of the same material and and I guess _H_ARZZvlQo-00188-00043463-00043679 they are it's reasonable to expect that _H_ARZZvlQo-00189-00043680-00043883 their weight will depend on the net _H_ARZZvlQo-00190-00043884-00044135 amount of stuff inside them and that _H_ARZZvlQo-00191-00044136-00044446 amount of material inside them and what _H_ARZZvlQo-00192-00044447-00044657 would that really depend upon the volume _H_ARZZvlQo-00193-00044658-00044879 right more the volume more amount of _H_ARZZvlQo-00194-00044880-00045137 stuff inside the higher the mass so for _H_ARZZvlQo-00195-00045138-00045274 a complicated shape it's always _H_ARZZvlQo-00196-00045275-00045430 difficult to figure out the volume but _H_ARZZvlQo-00197-00045431-00045683 this is a sphere all we need to know is _H_ARZZvlQo-00198-00045684-00045965 volume is always dealt with in cubic _H_ARZZvlQo-00199-00045966-00046168 units meter cube centimeter Cube _H_ARZZvlQo-00200-00046169-00046318 millimeters Cube there's always a cube _H_ARZZvlQo-00201-00046319-00046487 in it so you're multiplying three _H_ARZZvlQo-00202-00046488-00046696 dimensions in the case of a sphere there _H_ARZZvlQo-00203-00046697-00046852 is only one scale really that is just _H_ARZZvlQo-00204-00046853-00047123 the radius it's just a radius so volume _H_ARZZvlQo-00205-00047124-00047374 we can say it's proportional to R Cube _H_ARZZvlQo-00206-00047375-00047549 volume will always be proportional to R _H_ARZZvlQo-00207-00047550-00047758 Cube if you're talking about spheres so _H_ARZZvlQo-00208-00047759-00047890 now let's try and compare the volume of _H_ARZZvlQo-00209-00047891-00048118 these two cows for the first one we can _H_ARZZvlQo-00210-00048119-00048412 say let's say that the radius is one _H_ARZZvlQo-00211-00048413-00048707 units one meters just one units and the _H_ARZZvlQo-00212-00048708-00048929 radius of the super cow if this is two _H_ARZZvlQo-00213-00048930-00049271 so volume for the first curve it will be _H_ARZZvlQo-00214-00049272-00049468 proportional to a factor of just factor _H_ARZZvlQo-00215-00049469-00049739 of one but volume for a super cow this _H_ARZZvlQo-00216-00049740-00049943 will be proportional to a factor of 2 _H_ARZZvlQo-00217-00049944-00050249 Cube R Cube so this is eight so this _H_ARZZvlQo-00218-00050250-00050489 means that the super cow really weighs _H_ARZZvlQo-00219-00050490-00050933 eight time it weighs 8 times more than _H_ARZZvlQo-00220-00050934-00051149 the normal cow _H_ARZZvlQo-00221-00051150-00051335 and all of this weight is supported by _H_ARZZvlQo-00222-00051336-00051569 the skin of the Supercar so would it be _H_ARZZvlQo-00223-00051570-00051796 able to do that well the weight _H_ARZZvlQo-00224-00051797-00052013 increased eight times when you doubled _H_ARZZvlQo-00225-00052014-00052276 the radius of the super cow let's see _H_ARZZvlQo-00226-00052277-00052432 let's see the change in the surface area _H_ARZZvlQo-00227-00052433-00052666 so in the first case we know that area _H_ARZZvlQo-00228-00052667-00052882 is dealt in square meter side so this _H_ARZZvlQo-00229-00052883-00053032 will be proportional to a factor of 1 _H_ARZZvlQo-00230-00053033-00053219 because R is just one and if you double _H_ARZZvlQo-00231-00053220-00053482 the radius then area proportional to R _H_ARZZvlQo-00232-00053483-00053723 square proportional to 2 square so when _H_ARZZvlQo-00233-00053724-00053932 you double double the radius the the _H_ARZZvlQo-00234-00053933-00054119 surface area that increases by a factor _H_ARZZvlQo-00235-00054120-00054323 of four not just two but by a factor of _H_ARZZvlQo-00236-00054324-00054569 four volume increased by a factor of 8 _H_ARZZvlQo-00237-00054570-00054869 when you double the radius so a cow that _H_ARZZvlQo-00238-00054870-00055187 is twice as big actually weighs 8 times _H_ARZZvlQo-00239-00055188-00055541 it weighs eight times as much and has _H_ARZZvlQo-00240-00055541-00055835 four times as much skin holding it _H_ARZZvlQo-00241-00055836-00056038 together now if you think about it this _H_ARZZvlQo-00242-00056039-00056291 means that the super cow has twice as _H_ARZZvlQo-00243-00056291-00056507 much pressure pushing down on its skin _H_ARZZvlQo-00244-00056508-00056759 as the normal cow does due to its weight _H_ARZZvlQo-00245-00056760-00056975 if I keep on increasing the size of a _H_ARZZvlQo-00246-00056976-00057250 spherical cow at a certain point the _H_ARZZvlQo-00247-00057251-00057479 skin or organs near the skin will not _H_ARZZvlQo-00248-00057479-00057688 have the strength to support this extra _H_ARZZvlQo-00249-00057689-00057929 pressure and the cow will rupture and _H_ARZZvlQo-00250-00057929-00058097 that will be just embarrassing so there _H_ARZZvlQo-00251-00058098-00058288 is a limit to how large the cows can be _H_ARZZvlQo-00252-00058289-00058535 and not just because of biology now I _H_ARZZvlQo-00253-00058536-00058763 could have drawn I could have drawn a _H_ARZZvlQo-00254-00058764-00059080 real looking real looking cow _H_ARZZvlQo-00255-00059082-00059357 like like this and I could have doubled _H_ARZZvlQo-00256-00059358-00059585 the size I would have really arrived at _H_ARZZvlQo-00257-00059586-00059800 the same conclusion that the super cow _H_ARZZvlQo-00258-00059801-00060094 skin would really just rupture or break _H_ARZZvlQo-00259-00060095-00060365 so nothing really is lost by by making _H_ARZZvlQo-00260-00060366-00060580 this simple model this simple spherical _H_ARZZvlQo-00261-00060582-00060785 model which is giving me an approximate _H_ARZZvlQo-00262-00060786-00060976 description of the real thing the _H_ARZZvlQo-00263-00060977-00061169 approximate description here is radius _H_ARZZvlQo-00264-00061170-00061421 being 1 meters now I know what you might _H_ARZZvlQo-00265-00061422-00061607 be thinking that it's it seems that you _H_ARZZvlQo-00266-00061608-00061780 could argue like this for about for just _H_ARZZvlQo-00267-00061782-00061966 about anything and that's actually true _H_ARZZvlQo-00268-00061967-00062153 I can actually argue like this for any _H_ARZZvlQo-00269-00062154-00062332 mammal there is a limit to how big they _H_ARZZvlQo-00270-00062333-00062530 could be but still just for the sake of _H_ARZZvlQo-00271-00062532-00062747 it let me draw a better let me start _H_ARZZvlQo-00272-00062748-00062975 with a better model which would let's _H_ARZZvlQo-00273-00062976-00063215 say provide better approximations better _H_ARZZvlQo-00274-00063216-00063449 approximate descriptions for for the cow _H_ARZZvlQo-00275-00063450-00063785 so now let's at least include cow's head _H_ARZZvlQo-00276-00063786-00064144 here we have the normal cow and this is _H_ARZZvlQo-00277-00064145-00064444 this is your cows this is the cow's head _H_ARZZvlQo-00278-00064445-00064691 this is the cow's neck _H_ARZZvlQo-00279-00064691-00064991 and this is a cow's body and similarly _H_ARZZvlQo-00280-00064991-00065254 we have the super cow which is just _H_ARZZvlQo-00281-00065255-00065488 twice as big now the head is doubled in _H_ARZZvlQo-00282-00065489-00065794 size so so the volume increases by eight _H_ARZZvlQo-00283-00065795-00066017 times and so does for the body volume _H_ARZZvlQo-00284-00066018-00066203 increases by eight times but let's look _H_ARZZvlQo-00285-00066204-00066406 at the neck over here the strength of _H_ARZZvlQo-00286-00066407-00066593 the snake the strength of the snake we _H_ARZZvlQo-00287-00066594-00066826 can consider it like a rod that is a _H_ARZZvlQo-00288-00066827-00067031 thicker a thicker Rod will be stronger _H_ARZZvlQo-00289-00067032-00067211 and a thinner Rod made of the same _H_ARZZvlQo-00290-00067212-00067487 material will be weaker so a rod that is _H_ARZZvlQo-00291-00067488-00067829 twice as thick toys as thick as a _H_ARZZvlQo-00292-00067830-00068038 cross-sectional area and we saw that in _H_ARZZvlQo-00293-00068039-00068194 the previous case the area increases by _H_ARZZvlQo-00294-00068195-00068411 a factor of four but the weight of the _H_ARZZvlQo-00295-00068412-00068597 super cow's head volume increased by _H_ARZZvlQo-00296-00068598-00068771 eight times volume is proportional to _H_ARZZvlQo-00297-00068772-00069059 the weight the weight is eight times as _H_ARZZvlQo-00298-00069060-00069341 great as that of a normal cow but its _H_ARZZvlQo-00299-00069342-00069599 neck is only four times stronger related _H_ARZZvlQo-00300-00069600-00069838 to a normal cow or the neck is only half _H_ARZZvlQo-00301-00069839-00070138 as effective in holding of the head if _H_ARZZvlQo-00302-00070139-00070276 we were to keep increasing the _H_ARZZvlQo-00303-00070277-00070529 dimensions of the super cow the bones in _H_ARZZvlQo-00304-00070530-00070715 the neck would rapidly become unable to _H_ARZZvlQo-00305-00070716-00070847 support its head they would they would _H_ARZZvlQo-00306-00070848-00071069 rather break and this explains why the _H_ARZZvlQo-00307-00071070-00071303 head solar dinosaurs had to be so small _H_ARZZvlQo-00308-00071304-00071615 in proportion to the gigantic bodies and _H_ARZZvlQo-00309-00071616-00071897 why the animals with the largest heads _H_ARZZvlQo-00310-00071898-00072173 in in proportion to their bodies such as _H_ARZZvlQo-00311-00072174-00072341 dolphins and whales why they live in _H_ARZZvlQo-00312-00072342-00072532 water because objects that live in water _H_ARZZvlQo-00313-00072533-00072809 their weight is supported by a force _H_ARZZvlQo-00314-00072810-00073006 this is called a buoyant force _H_ARZZvlQo-00315-00073007-00073259 and because of this upward buoyant force _H_ARZZvlQo-00316-00073260-00073481 the weight is acting down but there is _H_ARZZvlQo-00317-00073482-00073703 an upward Force so the net force on the _H_ARZZvlQo-00318-00073704-00074021 dolphin skin is considerably less there _H_ARZZvlQo-00319-00074022-00074159 is less pressure there's less pressure _H_ARZZvlQo-00320-00074160-00074387 on the dolphin skin so they are slightly _H_ARZZvlQo-00321-00074388-00074626 lighter in the water so less strength is _H_ARZZvlQo-00322-00074627-00074885 needed to hold up the weight of the head _H_ARZZvlQo-00323-00074886-00075113 but over here there is no upward Force _H_ARZZvlQo-00324-00075114-00075335 there is just all of this weight that is _H_ARZZvlQo-00325-00075336-00075497 pushing the skin and now we can _H_ARZZvlQo-00326-00075498-00075653 understand why the physicist in the _H_ARZZvlQo-00327-00075654-00075844 story did not recommend producing bigger _H_ARZZvlQo-00328-00075845-00076073 Cows as a way to deal with the milk _H_ARZZvlQo-00329-00076074-00076337 production problem but bigger but the _H_ARZZvlQo-00330-00076338-00076535 bigger Point here is that even just a _H_ARZZvlQo-00331-00076536-00076865 very simple model of a real object of a _H_ARZZvlQo-00332-00076866-00077111 real thing we were able to deduce some _H_ARZZvlQo-00333-00077112-00077488 general principles about how big how big _H_ARZZvlQo-00334-00077489-00077776 mammals can be and that is the absolute _H_ARZZvlQo-00335-00077777-00077999 beauty of physics we will make many _H_ARZZvlQo-00336-00078000-00078191 simplified versions of real systems _H_ARZZvlQo-00337-00078192-00078365 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_NCDwNWbncA-00010-00002085-00002348 twenty-eight acre 43 square kilometres _NCDwNWbncA-00011-00002349-00002549 refuge located in eastern Colorado _NCDwNWbncA-00012-00002550-00002870 County approximately 60 miles 100 _NCDwNWbncA-00013-00002871-00003091 kilometres west of Houston Texas was _NCDwNWbncA-00014-00003092-00003361 established in 1972 and is one of a _NCDwNWbncA-00015-00003363-00003584 handful of national wildlife refuges _NCDwNWbncA-00016-00003585-00003790 managed specifically for an endangered _NCDwNWbncA-00017-00003792-00004118 species in the mid-1960s the World _NCDwNWbncA-00018-00004119-00004411 Wildlife Fund purchased 3,500 acres _NCDwNWbncA-00019-00004412-00004670 fourteen square kilometers of land to _NCDwNWbncA-00020-00004671-00004850 preserve some remaining coastal Prairie _NCDwNWbncA-00021-00004851-00005102 for the attwater's prairie chicken the _NCDwNWbncA-00022-00005103-00005279 land was transferred to the United _NCDwNWbncA-00023-00005280-00005585 States Fish & 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_NCDwNWbncA-00037-00008615-00008885 square kilometers to 3000 acres 12 _NCDwNWbncA-00038-00008886-00009131 square kilometers annually in January or _NCDwNWbncA-00039-00009132-00009194 February _NCDwNWbncA-00040-00009195-00009470 the burns help invigorate the grasses by _NCDwNWbncA-00041-00009471-00009662 removing dead stems and control the _NCDwNWbncA-00042-00009663-00009866 growth of brush and invasive species of _NCDwNWbncA-00043-00009867-00010163 plants the staff also converts formerly _NCDwNWbncA-00044-00010164-00010378 cultivated land in the refuge back to _NCDwNWbncA-00045-00010379-00010585 Prairie by replanting native grasses _NCDwNWbncA-00046-00010586-00010960 over 250 species of birds in addition to _NCDwNWbncA-00047-00010961-00011131 the attwater's prairie chicken have been _NCDwNWbncA-00048-00011132-00011378 observed in the refuge some of these _NCDwNWbncA-00049-00011379-00011555 include the full vez whistling duck _NCDwNWbncA-00050-00011556-00011746 black-bellied Whistling Duck white _NCDwNWbncA-00051-00011747-00011914 tailed hawk northern Caracara _NCDwNWbncA-00052-00011915-00012121 scissor-tailed flycatcher dickcissel _NCDwNWbncA-00053-00012122-00012380 Roseate Spoonbill anhinga Sprague's _NCDwNWbncA-00054-00012381-00012680 pipit and sandhill crane mammals in the _NCDwNWbncA-00055-00012681-00012946 refuge include plains bison 13 lined _NCDwNWbncA-00056-00012947-00013219 ground squirrel Bobcats coyotes nine _NCDwNWbncA-00057-00013220-00013379 banded armadillo and white _NCDwNWbncA-00058-00013380-00013652 tailed deer american alligators share _NCDwNWbncA-00059-00013653-00013822 the ponds with softshell turtles _NCDwNWbncA-00060-00013822-00014099 American bullfrog and upland chorus frog _NCDwNWbncA-00061-00014100-00014369 calls are heard in the refuge Indian _NCDwNWbncA-00062-00014369-00014582 Paintbrush bluebonnets and butterfly _NCDwNWbncA-00063-00014583-00014732 milkweed are some of the many wild _NCDwNWbncA-00064-00014733-00014978 flowers that bloom 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_RH0m6QTohg-00034-00008292-00008549 wish we could tell people that who he is _RH0m6QTohg-00035-00008550-00008804 how people all over the world they write _RH0m6QTohg-00036-00008805-00008993 books about him they are doing research _RH0m6QTohg-00037-00008994-00009305 on getting everything films on him in _RH0m6QTohg-00038-00009306-00009455 some areas where there is not much _RH0m6QTohg-00039-00009456-00009641 awareness will be eating too much social _RH0m6QTohg-00040-00009642-00009871 media I mean if you don't hear any key _RH0m6QTohg-00041-00009872-00010085 students will be irate so how you expect _RH0m6QTohg-00042-00010086-00010409 them to see TV and social media so the _RH0m6QTohg-00043-00010410-00010813 anomaly is the oddities famous but we _RH0m6QTohg-00044-00010814-00011126 have to tell them why he's famous what _RH0m6QTohg-00045-00011127-00011507 he did how important a figure he is and _RH0m6QTohg-00046-00011508-00011654 what you've been trying to tell them is _RH0m6QTohg-00047-00011655-00011860 that you know if he raises you issue the _RH0m6QTohg-00048-00011861-00012127 world will assume that's the main thing _RH0m6QTohg-00049-00012128-00012404 which is how a campaign bank has the _RH0m6QTohg-00050-00012405-00012576 collegia of 2016 _RH0m6QTohg-00051-00012577-00012694 [Music] _RH0m6QTohg-00052-00012695-00013294 in 2016 and the canal has now changed is _RH0m6QTohg-00053-00013294-00013644 he less accessible I mean see yes and no _RH0m6QTohg-00054-00013645-00014038 one even he has to get her to like lots _RH0m6QTohg-00055-00014038-00014275 of people then you can expect him to be _RH0m6QTohg-00056-00014276-00014505 you know on the phone all the time etc _RH0m6QTohg-00057-00014506-00014797 but I don't think that he has changed I _RH0m6QTohg-00058-00014797-00014971 think that he's really solidly stuck to _RH0m6QTohg-00059-00014972-00015169 his politics and that's something that's _RH0m6QTohg-00060-00015169-00015349 very inspiring in appreciated about him _RH0m6QTohg-00061-00015350-00015625 and he's still even today he's talking _RH0m6QTohg-00062-00015626-00015841 about equality he's started with the _RH0m6QTohg-00063-00015841-00016090 same values and while being dignified _RH0m6QTohg-00064-00016091-00016411 being here by the emotional while being _RH0m6QTohg-00065-00016412-00016474 funny _RH0m6QTohg-00066-00016475-00016699 he's also tackling important issues like _RH0m6QTohg-00067-00016700-00016872 in his speech he even talked about other _RH0m6QTohg-00068-00016873-00017002 patients and in the end there is that _RH0m6QTohg-00069-00017003-00017205 article 370 is not the issue the issue _RH0m6QTohg-00070-00017206-00017380 is whether we should have a university _RH0m6QTohg-00071-00017381-00017575 in Houston but I think that's really _RH0m6QTohg-00072-00017576-00017740 important like moving back the focus to _RH0m6QTohg-00073-00017741-00018208 the basics of the Google these needs _RH0m6QTohg-00074-00018209-00018416 you know you 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_RH0m6QTohg-00101-00024372-00024614 family my grandfather were very very _RH0m6QTohg-00102-00024615-00024983 close so for me this movement of all of _RH0m6QTohg-00103-00024984-00025136 your seven see all of your movement in _RH0m6QTohg-00104-00025137-00025508 general Sanchez canina to see the slogan _RH0m6QTohg-00105-00025509-00025781 Azadi reclaim like this and you have _RH0m6QTohg-00106-00025782-00026270 t-shirts printed because are using a _RH0m6QTohg-00107-00026270-00026582 term it was so bad the Sun is almost the _RH0m6QTohg-00108-00026583-00027092 kind of is recapturing of analogy you _RH0m6QTohg-00109-00027093-00027245 when you travel across the length and _RH0m6QTohg-00110-00027245-00027470 breadth of this country is that the _RH0m6QTohg-00111-00027470-00027589 president government the Modi government _RH0m6QTohg-00112-00027591-00027946 especially has turned all of India into _RH0m6QTohg-00113-00027947-00028285 a country these things you know like _RH0m6QTohg-00114-00028286-00028505 what you would hear in Kashmir _RH0m6QTohg-00115-00028506-00028739 disappearances now you hear a Republican _RH0m6QTohg-00116-00028739-00028973 Jane you very much in our backyard _RH0m6QTohg-00117-00028974-00029255 energy and the Jeep and policing what _RH0m6QTohg-00118-00029256-00029443 you use to hear officials say about _RH0m6QTohg-00119-00029444-00029695 stone hunting etcetera now you have it _RH0m6QTohg-00120-00029697-00029932 happening _RH0m6QTohg-00121-00029933-00030182 chasing people have pushed me out _RH0m6QTohg-00122-00030183-00030490 pelting stones at them so the things _RH0m6QTohg-00123-00030491-00030658 that we use to hear our secrets are _RH0m6QTohg-00124-00030659-00030967 protesters when they are 500 but this _RH0m6QTohg-00125-00030968-00031151 would happen when you push me now it's _RH0m6QTohg-00126-00031152-00031376 not usually much smaller it is about _RH0m6QTohg-00127-00031377-00031511 where I've been so many times not to 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_RH0m6QTohg-00142-00034593-00035033 the point of ego you will be doing a lot _RH0m6QTohg-00143-00035034-00035180 of harm to the right stuck in your _RH0m6QTohg-00144-00035181-00035396 actually and I think that people need to _RH0m6QTohg-00145-00035397-00035732 be a bit relaxed about me and I think I _RH0m6QTohg-00146-00035733-00035984 quote a little like Familia can actually _RH0m6QTohg-00147-00035985-00036173 help resolve these tensions rather _RH0m6QTohg-00148-00036174-00036587 they're made of of real intentions _SnZMORGe2g-00000-00000104-00000638 [Music] _SnZMORGe2g-00001-00000639-00001033 Oh _SnZMORGe2g-00003-00017713-00017905 you _SnZMORGe2g-00004-00017906-00018228 [Music] _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00000-00000057-00000336 a hydroxy or hydroxyl group is the _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00001-00000337-00000648 entity with the formula oh it contains _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00002-00000649-00000951 oxygen bonded to hydrogen in organic _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00003-00000952-00001221 chemistry alcohol and carboxylic acids _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00004-00001222-00001581 contain hydroxy groups the anion o - _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00005-00001582-00001863 called hydroxide consists of a hydroxyl _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00006-00001864-00002276 group according to IUPAC rules the term _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00007-00002277-00002505 hydroxyl refers to the radical Oh only _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00008-00002506-00002772 while the functional group - o is called _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00009-00002773-00003417 hydroxy group _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00010-00003418-00003975 topic properties _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00011-00003976-00004335 water alcohols carboxylic acids and many _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00012-00004336-00004569 other hydroxy containing compounds can _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00013-00004570-00004911 be deprotonated readily this behavior is _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00014-00004912-00005099 rationalized by the disparate _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00015-00005100-00005297 electronegativities of oxygen and _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00016-00005298-00005643 hydrogen hydroxy containing compounds _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00017-00005644-00005879 engage in hydrogen bonding which causes _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00018-00005880-00006078 them to stick together leading to higher _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00019-00006079-00006279 boiling and melting points than found _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00020-00006280-00006485 for compounds that lack this functional _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00021-00006486-00006785 group organic compounds which are often _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00022-00006786-00006993 poorly soluble in water become _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00023-00006994-00007196 water-soluble when they contain two or _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00024-00007197-00007445 more hydroxy groups as illustrated by _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00025-00007447-00008144 sugars and amino acid _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00026-00008145-00008694 topic occurrence _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00027-00008695-00008946 the hydroxy group is pervasive in _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00028-00008947-00009201 chemistry and biochemistry many _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00029-00009202-00009453 inorganic compounds contain hydroxy _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00030-00009454-00009696 groups including sulfuric acid the _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00031-00009697-00009876 chemical compound produced on the _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00032-00009877-00010230 largest scale industrially hydroxy _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00033-00010231-00010473 groups participate in the dehydration _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00034-00010474-00010707 reactions that linked simple biological _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00035-00010708-00011027 molecules into long chains the joining _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00036-00011028-00011252 of a fatty acid to glycerol to form a _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00037-00011253-00011508 tri cuff glycerol removes the - Oh from _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00038-00011509-00011820 the carboxy end of the fatty acid the _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00039-00011821-00012069 joining of two aldehyde sugars to form a _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00040-00012070-00012312 disaccharide removes the - Oh from the _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00041-00012313-00012552 carboxy group at the aldehyde end of one _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00042-00012553-00012882 sugar the creation of a peptide bond to _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00043-00012883-00013113 linked two amino acids to make a protein _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00044-00013113-00013371 removes the - Oh from the carboxy group _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00045-00013372-00014033 of one amino acid _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00046-00014034-00014662 topic hydroxyl radical _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00047-00014663-00014900 hydroxyl radicals are highly reactive _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00048-00014901-00015158 and undergo chemical reactions that make _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00049-00015159-00015263 them short-lived _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00050-00015263-00015569 when biological systems are exposed to _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00051-00015569-00015803 hydroxyl radicals they can cause damage _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00052-00015804-00016085 to cells including those in humans where _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00053-00016086-00016310 they can react with DNA lipids and _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00054-00016311-00016939 proteins _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00055-00016940-00017264 topic lunar and other extraterrestrial _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00056-00017265-00017740 observations _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00057-00017741-00018214 in 2009 india's CH andr ayaa n one _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00058-00018215-00018481 satellite NASA's Cassini spacecraft and _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00059-00018482-00018691 the Deep Impact probe have each detected _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00060-00018692-00018889 the presence of water by evidence of _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00061-00018890-00019134 hydroxyl fragments on the moon as _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00062-00019135-00019438 reported by Richard ker a spectrometer _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00063-00019439-00019791 the moon mineralogy mapper aka _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00064-00019792-00020170 m3 detected an infrared absorption at a _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00065-00020171-00020497 wavelength of 3.0 micrometers that only _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00066-00020498-00020821 water or hydroxyl a hydrogen and an _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00067-00020822-00021213 oxygen bound together could have created _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00068-00021214-00021628 NASA also reported in 2009 that the LCR _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00069-00021629-00021883 OSS probe revealed an ultraviolet _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00070-00021884-00022066 emission spectrum consistent with _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00071-00022067-00022354 hydroxyl presence the Venus Express _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00072-00022355-00022609 orbiter sent back Venus science data _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00073-00022610-00023031 from April 2006 until December 2014 _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00074-00023032-00023311 results from Venus Express include the _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00075-00023312-00024074 detection of hydroxyl in the atmosphere _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00076-00024075-00024637 topic see also _Ub4eXOGI1Y-00077-00024638-00025283 hydronium ion oxide _YB-rU-Wz6o-00000-00001059-00001341 to lose has harnessed information and _YB-rU-Wz6o-00001-00001342-00001545 communications technologies in order to _YB-rU-Wz6o-00002-00001546-00001739 make the city more accessible for older _YB-rU-Wz6o-00003-00001741-00002039 and disabled people the city's transport _YB-rU-Wz6o-00004-00002041-00002249 system has an accessible website and _YB-rU-Wz6o-00005-00002250-00002447 telephone information line which not _YB-rU-Wz6o-00006-00002448-00002622 only allows people to plan their journey _YB-rU-Wz6o-00007-00002623-00002822 but also gives information on the _YB-rU-Wz6o-00008-00002823-00003083 availability of lifts at metro stations _YB-rU-Wz6o-00009-00003084-00003396 the site also has timetable information _YB-rU-Wz6o-00010-00003397-00003669 for buses and trams in a former adapted _YB-rU-Wz6o-00011-00003670-00003863 for the visually impaired as well as _YB-rU-Wz6o-00012-00003864-00004065 audio descriptions of metro stations and _YB-rU-Wz6o-00013-00004065-00004347 tram stops the city's website which _YB-rU-Wz6o-00014-00004348-00004469 meets world wide web consortium _YB-rU-Wz6o-00015-00004470-00004680 standards for use by people with _YB-rU-Wz6o-00016-00004681-00004953 disabilities also has information about _YB-rU-Wz6o-00017-00004954-00005133 which pedestrian crossings have audio _YB-rU-Wz6o-00018-00005134-00005304 guidance for the visually impaired as _YB-rU-Wz6o-00019-00005305-00005535 well as the location of disabled parking _YB-rU-Wz6o-00020-00005536-00005972 spaces since 2014 Toulouse has developed _YB-rU-Wz6o-00021-00005973-00006249 a special Smart City taskforce which has _YB-rU-Wz6o-00022-00006250-00006555 four major priorities mobility and _YB-rU-Wz6o-00023-00006556-00006858 intelligent transport systems energy _YB-rU-Wz6o-00024-00006859-00007164 networks in the environment eServices _YB-rU-Wz6o-00025-00007165-00007421 and autonomy and the so-called silver _YB-rU-Wz6o-00026-00007422-00007706 economy for making a commitment to the _YB-rU-Wz6o-00027-00007708-00007902 city's disabled an older population _YB-rU-Wz6o-00028-00007903-00008123 through the means of technology the jury _YB-rU-Wz6o-00029-00008125-00008358 has decided to award to lose with the _YB-rU-Wz6o-00030-00008359-00008550 inaugural special mention for being a _YB-rU-Wz6o-00031-00008551-00009110 smart city _YB-rU-Wz6o-00032-00009111-00009317 you _aqfvUe9Oho-00000-00000048-00000741 foreign _aqfvUe9Oho-00001-00000742-00001955 [Music] _aqfvUe9Oho-00002-00001957-00002627 [Music] _aqfvUe9Oho-00003-00002628-00003199 [Music] _aqfvUe9Oho-00004-00003200-00003481 foreign foreign _aqfvUe9Oho-00005-00003482-00004694 [Music] _aqfvUe9Oho-00006-00004695-00006904 [Music] 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_cc8yYILFik-00015-00016991-00019039 [Music] _cc8yYILFik-00016-00019040-00019418 when I'm desperate _d9-Lhn1e0o-00000-00000112-00000295 christian music is music that has been _d9-Lhn1e0o-00001-00000296-00000503 written to express either personal or a _d9-Lhn1e0o-00002-00000504-00000711 communal belief regarding christian life _d9-Lhn1e0o-00003-00000712-00000831 and faith _d9-Lhn1e0o-00004-00000832-00001047 common themes of christian music include _d9-Lhn1e0o-00005-00001048-00001295 praise worship penitence and lament and _d9-Lhn1e0o-00006-00001296-00001607 its forms vary widely across the world _d9-Lhn1e0o-00007-00001607-00001823 like other forms of music the creation _d9-Lhn1e0o-00008-00001823-00002030 performance significance and even the _d9-Lhn1e0o-00009-00002032-00002231 definition of christian music varies _d9-Lhn1e0o-00010-00002232-00002526 according to culture and social context _d9-Lhn1e0o-00011-00002527-00002710 christian music is composed and _d9-Lhn1e0o-00012-00002711-00002926 performed for many purposes ranging from _d9-Lhn1e0o-00013-00002927-00003102 aesthetic pleasure religious or _d9-Lhn1e0o-00014-00003103-00003327 ceremonial purposes or with a positive _d9-Lhn1e0o-00015-00003328-00003511 message as an entertainment product for _d9-Lhn1e0o-00016-00003511-00003943 the marketplace _d9-Lhn1e0o-00017-00003944-00004486 topic worship services _d9-Lhn1e0o-00018-00004487-00004654 among the most prevalent uses of _d9-Lhn1e0o-00019-00004655-00004863 christian music are in church worship or _d9-Lhn1e0o-00020-00004864-00005022 other gatherings _d9-Lhn1e0o-00021-00005023-00005231 most christian music involves singing _d9-Lhn1e0o-00022-00005232-00005399 whether by the whole congregation _d9-Lhn1e0o-00023-00005400-00005686 assembly or by a specialized subgroup _d9-Lhn1e0o-00024-00005687-00005983 such as a soloist duet trio quartet _d9-Lhn1e0o-00025-00005984-00006375 madrigal choir or worship band or both _d9-Lhn1e0o-00026-00006376-00006542 it is frequently accompanied by _d9-Lhn1e0o-00027-00006543-00006767 instruments but some denominations such _d9-Lhn1e0o-00028-00006768-00006983 as some exclusive brethren the churches _d9-Lhn1e0o-00029-00006984-00007191 of christ the primitive baptists and the _d9-Lhn1e0o-00030-00007192-00007398 free church of scotland or congregations _d9-Lhn1e0o-00031-00007400-00007614 still prefer unaccompanied or a cappella _d9-Lhn1e0o-00032-00007615-00007719 singing _d9-Lhn1e0o-00033-00007720-00007942 some groups such as the bruderhof sing _d9-Lhn1e0o-00034-00007943-00008095 songs both with religious and _d9-Lhn1e0o-00035-00008095-00008351 non-religious meanings and words _d9-Lhn1e0o-00036-00008352-00008583 for them the act of singing is important _d9-Lhn1e0o-00037-00008584-00008767 one of the earliest forms of worship _d9-Lhn1e0o-00038-00008768-00008959 music in the church was the gregorian _d9-Lhn1e0o-00039-00008960-00009063 chant _d9-Lhn1e0o-00040-00009064-00009255 pope gregory the first while not the _d9-Lhn1e0o-00041-00009256-00009439 inventor of chant was acknowledged as _d9-Lhn1e0o-00042-00009440-00009646 the first person to order such music in _d9-Lhn1e0o-00043-00009647-00009919 the church hinting the name gregorian _d9-Lhn1e0o-00044-00009920-00010167 chant the chant reform took place around _d9-Lhn1e0o-00045-00010168-00010383 590-604 _d9-Lhn1e0o-00046-00010384-00010606 ce reign of pope gregory the first _d9-Lhn1e0o-00047-00010607-00010867 kamian pg _d9-Lhn1e0o-00048-00010868-00011159 65-67 the gregorian chant was known for _d9-Lhn1e0o-00049-00011160-00011414 its very monophonic sound believing that _d9-Lhn1e0o-00050-00011415-00011614 complexity had a tendency to create _d9-Lhn1e0o-00051-00011615-00011846 cacophony which ruined the music gregory _d9-Lhn1e0o-00052-00011847-00012031 the first kept things very simple with _d9-Lhn1e0o-00053-00012032-00012406 the chant _d9-Lhn1e0o-00054-00012407-00012966 topic instrumental accompaniment _d9-Lhn1e0o-00055-00012967-00013158 in the west the majority of christian _d9-Lhn1e0o-00056-00013159-00013383 denominations use instruments such as an _d9-Lhn1e0o-00057-00013384-00013663 organ piano electronic keyboard guitar _d9-Lhn1e0o-00058-00013663-00013855 or other accompaniment and occasionally _d9-Lhn1e0o-00059-00013856-00014071 by a band or orchestra to accompany the _d9-Lhn1e0o-00060-00014072-00014166 singing _d9-Lhn1e0o-00061-00014168-00014375 but some churches have historically not _d9-Lhn1e0o-00062-00014376-00014566 used instruments citing their absence _d9-Lhn1e0o-00063-00014568-00014735 from the new testament _d9-Lhn1e0o-00064-00014736-00014958 during the last century or so several of _d9-Lhn1e0o-00065-00014959-00015247 these groups have revised this stance _d9-Lhn1e0o-00066-00015247-00015447 the singing of the eastern orthodox is _d9-Lhn1e0o-00067-00015447-00015630 also generally unaccompanied though in _d9-Lhn1e0o-00068-00015631-00015830 the united states organs are sometimes _d9-Lhn1e0o-00069-00015831-00016430 used as a result of western influence _d9-Lhn1e0o-00070-00016431-00016894 instrumental music _d9-Lhn1e0o-00071-00016895-00017135 some worship music may be unsung simply _d9-Lhn1e0o-00072-00017136-00017367 instrumental during the baroque period _d9-Lhn1e0o-00073-00017368-00017583 in europe the chorale prelude for organ _d9-Lhn1e0o-00074-00017584-00017799 was widely used generally composed by _d9-Lhn1e0o-00075-00017800-00018014 using a popular hymn tune thematically _d9-Lhn1e0o-00076-00018015-00018230 and a wide corpus of other solo organ _d9-Lhn1e0o-00077-00018231-00018503 music began to develop across europe _d9-Lhn1e0o-00078-00018504-00018686 some of the most well-known exponents of _d9-Lhn1e0o-00079-00018687-00018919 such organ compositions include johann _d9-Lhn1e0o-00080-00018920-00019150 sebastian bach dieterich books tahuda _d9-Lhn1e0o-00081-00019151-00019327 george frederick handel francois _d9-Lhn1e0o-00082-00019328-00019550 cooperand cesar frank and charles _d9-Lhn1e0o-00083-00019551-00019767 mariewador to name a few _d9-Lhn1e0o-00084-00019768-00019983 up to the present time various composers _d9-Lhn1e0o-00085-00019984-00020175 have written instrumental often organ _d9-Lhn1e0o-00086-00020176-00020367 music as acts of worship including _d9-Lhn1e0o-00087-00020368-00020591 well-known organ repertoire by composers _d9-Lhn1e0o-00088-00020592-00020855 like olivier messiah luis vieren maurice _d9-Lhn1e0o-00089-00020856-00021119 de rouflee and jean lingley _d9-Lhn1e0o-00090-00021120-00021311 the church sonata for orchestra and _d9-Lhn1e0o-00091-00021312-00021471 chamber group and other sacred _d9-Lhn1e0o-00092-00021472-00021663 instrumental musical forms also _d9-Lhn1e0o-00093-00021664-00021814 developed from the baroque period _d9-Lhn1e0o-00094-00021815-00022286 onwards _d9-Lhn1e0o-00095-00022287-00022814 contemporary christian music _d9-Lhn1e0o-00096-00022815-00023039 from the latter half of the 20th century _d9-Lhn1e0o-00097-00023040-00023191 to the present day in western _d9-Lhn1e0o-00098-00023192-00023422 christendom especially in the united _d9-Lhn1e0o-00099-00023423-00023575 states and in other countries with _d9-Lhn1e0o-00100-00023576-00023863 evangelical churches various genres of _d9-Lhn1e0o-00101-00023864-00024078 music originally often related to pop _d9-Lhn1e0o-00102-00024079-00024263 rock have been created under the label _d9-Lhn1e0o-00103-00024264-00024622 of contemporary christian music ccm for _d9-Lhn1e0o-00104-00024623-00024878 home listening and concert use it can be _d9-Lhn1e0o-00105-00024879-00025063 divided into several genres and _d9-Lhn1e0o-00106-00025064-00025271 subgenres although the dividing lines _d9-Lhn1e0o-00107-00025272-00025478 and relationships between music genres _d9-Lhn1e0o-00108-00025479-00025678 are often subtle sometimes open to _d9-Lhn1e0o-00109-00025679-00025839 individual interpretation and _d9-Lhn1e0o-00110-00025839-00026039 occasionally controversial _d9-Lhn1e0o-00111-00026039-00026295 these genres sometimes referred to as _d9-Lhn1e0o-00112-00026295-00026407 style _d9-Lhn1e0o-00113-00026408-00026574 like other forms of music may be _d9-Lhn1e0o-00114-00026575-00026743 distinguished by the techniques the _d9-Lhn1e0o-00115-00026744-00026958 styles the context and the themes or _d9-Lhn1e0o-00116-00026960-00027151 geographical origin _d9-Lhn1e0o-00117-00027152-00027439 specific sub-genres of ccm may include _d9-Lhn1e0o-00118-00027439-00027646 but are not limited to christian country _d9-Lhn1e0o-00119-00027647-00027870 music christian pop christian rock _d9-Lhn1e0o-00120-00027872-00028070 christian medal christian hardcore _d9-Lhn1e0o-00121-00028072-00028270 christian punk christian alternative _d9-Lhn1e0o-00122-00028272-00028518 rock and christian hip-hop _d9-Lhn1e0o-00123-00028519-00028727 called christian pop or gospel in a _d9-Lhn1e0o-00124-00028727-00028935 generalized form this is a relatively _d9-Lhn1e0o-00125-00028936-00029151 new musical movement and has now evolved _d9-Lhn1e0o-00126-00029152-00029374 into a large number of musical genres by _d9-Lhn1e0o-00127-00029375-00029662 region that comes in a christian context _d9-Lhn1e0o-00128-00029663-00029831 this movement appeared as a form of _d9-Lhn1e0o-00129-00029832-00030014 evangelization for the young but the _d9-Lhn1e0o-00130-00030016-00030207 genre is best known and seen in the _d9-Lhn1e0o-00131-00030208-00030439 evangelical or protestant proselytizing _d9-Lhn1e0o-00132-00030439-00030646 movements often using rhythms similar to _d9-Lhn1e0o-00133-00030647-00030887 those in secular music _d9-Lhn1e0o-00134-00030888-00031118 ccm is not a musical genre like the _d9-Lhn1e0o-00135-00031119-00031262 other genres _d9-Lhn1e0o-00136-00031263-00031583 when a song is identified as christian _d9-Lhn1e0o-00137-00031583-00031774 it takes into account the lyrics and the _d9-Lhn1e0o-00138-00031775-00031967 songwriters and performers rather than _d9-Lhn1e0o-00139-00031968-00032135 musical style _d9-Lhn1e0o-00140-00032136-00032351 therefore one can say that ccm is _d9-Lhn1e0o-00141-00032352-00032535 diverse and there are christian songs _d9-Lhn1e0o-00142-00032536-00032711 that are sung to the rhythm of salsa _d9-Lhn1e0o-00143-00032712-00033031 reggae rock folk hip-hop or rap ballads _d9-Lhn1e0o-00144-00033032-00033279 pop country singer-songwriters and even _d9-Lhn1e0o-00145-00033280-00033479 extreme music such as punk or heavy _d9-Lhn1e0o-00146-00033480-00033615 metal _d9-Lhn1e0o-00147-00033616-00033918 in the 1980s and 1990s contemporary _d9-Lhn1e0o-00148-00033919-00034095 christian music played a significant _d9-Lhn1e0o-00149-00034096-00034367 role in evangelical christian worship _d9-Lhn1e0o-00150-00034368-00034607 a great variety of musical styles has _d9-Lhn1e0o-00151-00034608-00035079 developed traditional praise _d9-Lhn1e0o-00152-00035080-00035599 topic other languages _d9-Lhn1e0o-00153-00035600-00035807 similar developments took place in other _d9-Lhn1e0o-00154-00035808-00036007 language for example the german noise _d9-Lhn1e0o-00155-00036008-00036239 giseleshas lied in korean contemporary _d9-Lhn1e0o-00156-00036240-00036727 christian music _d9-Lhn1e0o-00157-00036728-00037135 industry _d9-Lhn1e0o-00158-00037136-00037311 christian music is supported by a _d9-Lhn1e0o-00159-00037312-00037511 segment of the general music industry _d9-Lhn1e0o-00160-00037512-00037711 which evolved as a parallel structure to _d9-Lhn1e0o-00161-00037712-00037823 the same _d9-Lhn1e0o-00162-00037824-00038071 beginning in the 1970s and developing _d9-Lhn1e0o-00163-00038072-00038255 out of the jesus movement the christian _d9-Lhn1e0o-00164-00038256-00038471 music industry subsequently developed _d9-Lhn1e0o-00165-00038472-00038735 into a near billion-dollar enterprise _d9-Lhn1e0o-00166-00038736-00038983 by the 1990s the genre had eclipsed _d9-Lhn1e0o-00167-00038984-00039223 classical jazz and new age music and _d9-Lhn1e0o-00168-00039224-00039407 artists began gaining acceptance in the _d9-Lhn1e0o-00169-00039408-00039887 general market _d9-Lhn1e0o-00170-00039888-00040279 media _d9-Lhn1e0o-00171-00040280-00040479 today christian music is available _d9-Lhn1e0o-00172-00040480-00040702 through most available media christian _d9-Lhn1e0o-00173-00040703-00040918 music is broadcast over the radio _d9-Lhn1e0o-00174-00040919-00041143 television or the internet _d9-Lhn1e0o-00175-00041144-00041446 christian albums and video recordings cd _d9-Lhn1e0o-00176-00041447-00041823 lp digital download dvd etc have been _d9-Lhn1e0o-00177-00041824-00041999 increasingly more popular and have _d9-Lhn1e0o-00178-00042000-00042215 continued to increase in sales christian _d9-Lhn1e0o-00179-00042216-00042407 musicals is another growing area _d9-Lhn1e0o-00180-00042408-00042655 especially with the help of the internet _d9-Lhn1e0o-00181-00042656-00042862 church drama groups frequently enjoy _d9-Lhn1e0o-00182-00042863-00043062 performing musical dramas which can be _d9-Lhn1e0o-00183-00043063-00043646 downloaded online for free use _d9-Lhn1e0o-00184-00043647-00044183 music festivals and conferences _d9-Lhn1e0o-00185-00044184-00044374 in the u.s several christian music _d9-Lhn1e0o-00186-00044375-00044583 festivals have been organized they are _d9-Lhn1e0o-00187-00044584-00044774 common in the summertime and draw many _d9-Lhn1e0o-00188-00044775-00044990 different people specifically those from _d9-Lhn1e0o-00189-00044991-00045199 organized groups such as church youth _d9-Lhn1e0o-00190-00045200-00045399 groups and campus groups _d9-Lhn1e0o-00191-00045400-00045590 in addition to music festivals like _d9-Lhn1e0o-00192-00045591-00045735 those that are part of the christian _d9-Lhn1e0o-00193-00045736-00045983 festival association there are also many _d9-Lhn1e0o-00194-00045984-00046183 christian conferences which focus more _d9-Lhn1e0o-00195-00046184-00046383 on speakers but usually also have _d9-Lhn1e0o-00196-00046384-00046607 musical performances especially for a _d9-Lhn1e0o-00197-00046608-00046790 worship service _d9-Lhn1e0o-00198-00046791-00046990 the ichthys music festival started in _d9-Lhn1e0o-00199-00046991-00047311 1970. today festivals are held annually _d9-Lhn1e0o-00200-00047312-00047502 around the world and may draw upwards of _d9-Lhn1e0o-00201-00047503-00047735 100 000 people _d9-Lhn1e0o-00202-00047736-00047967 new zealand's parachute music festival _d9-Lhn1e0o-00203-00047968-00048183 the largest christian music festival in _d9-Lhn1e0o-00204-00048184-00048446 the southern hemisphere began in 1989 _d9-Lhn1e0o-00205-00048447-00048623 and is held annually at mystery creek _d9-Lhn1e0o-00206-00048624-00048783 events center outside the city of _d9-Lhn1e0o-00207-00048784-00048943 hamilton _d9-Lhn1e0o-00208-00048944-00049151 england's big church day out festival _d9-Lhn1e0o-00209-00049152-00049430 began in 2009 and has annual attendance _d9-Lhn1e0o-00210-00049431-00049679 of approximately 20 000. _d9-Lhn1e0o-00211-00049680-00049918 topic concerts like any musical group or _d9-Lhn1e0o-00212-00049919-00050127 act many christian musical artists _d9-Lhn1e0o-00213-00050128-00050367 perform concerts in concert halls bars _d9-Lhn1e0o-00214-00050368-00050599 and clubs or outdoor venues as well as _d9-Lhn1e0o-00215-00050600-00050815 in church-related venues _d9-Lhn1e0o-00216-00050816-00050958 sometimes it may be for pure _d9-Lhn1e0o-00217-00050959-00051127 entertainment other times with the _d9-Lhn1e0o-00218-00051128-00051350 intention of witnessing evangelizing by _d9-Lhn1e0o-00219-00051351-00051542 bearing witness of one's faith and other _d9-Lhn1e0o-00220-00051544-00051790 times may be part worship as well _d9-Lhn1e0o-00221-00051791-00052063 topic c also topic references topic _d9-Lhn1e0o-00222-00052064-00052294 further reading boyer horus clarence how _d9-Lhn1e0o-00223-00052295-00052519 sweet the sound the golden age of gospel _d9-Lhn1e0o-00224-00052520-00053223 elliot and clark 1995 isbn 0-252-06877-7 _d9-Lhn1e0o-00225-00053224-00053447 broughton viv too close to heaven the _d9-Lhn1e0o-00226-00053448-00053663 illustrated history of gospel music _d9-Lhn1e0o-00227-00053664-00054171 midnight books 1996 isbn 1 _d9-Lhn1e0o-00228-00054172-00054454 900-516-004 albert e brumley and sons _d9-Lhn1e0o-00229-00054455-00054671 the best of albert e brumley gospel _d9-Lhn1e0o-00230-00054672-00055087 songs 1966 isbn naw paperback amazing _d9-Lhn1e0o-00231-00055088-00055326 grace darden robert people get ready a _d9-Lhn1e0o-00232-00055327-00055526 new history of black gospel music _d9-Lhn1e0o-00233-00055527-00055750 continuum international publishing group _d9-Lhn1e0o-00234-00055751-00056103 2005 isbn _d9-Lhn1e0o-00235-00056104-00056350 1 7 08264-175 2 3 _d9-Lhn1e0o-00236-00056351-00056623 heilbert tony the gospel sound good news _d9-Lhn1e0o-00237-00056624-00056935 and bad times limelight editions 1997 _d9-Lhn1e0o-00238-00056936-00057294 isbn087910034 _d9-Lhn1e0o-00239-00057295-00057599 6 zoltan jerry great god a mighty the _d9-Lhn1e0o-00240-00057600-00057823 dixie hummingbirds celebrating the rise _d9-Lhn1e0o-00241-00057824-00058079 of soul gospel music oxford university _d9-Lhn1e0o-00242-00058079-00058742 press 2003 isbn 0-19515272-7 _d9-Lhn1e0o-00243-00058744-00059066 herbermann charles ed 1913 _d9-Lhn1e0o-00244-00059067-00059287 ecclesiastical music catholic _d9-Lhn1e0o-00245-00059288-00059559 encyclopedia new york robert appleton _d9-Lhn1e0o-00246-00059560-00059879 company encyclopedia cecilia in spanish _d9-Lhn1e0o-00247-00059879-00060103 includes a catholic encyclopedia about _d9-Lhn1e0o-00248-00060104-00060399 music wiki-style palakkal joseph syriac _d9-Lhn1e0o-00249-00060400-00060599 chant traditions in south india wilson _d9-Lhn1e0o-00250-00060600-00060871 dixon andrew 2003 _d9-Lhn1e0o-00251-00060872-00061047 the story of christian music an _d9-Lhn1e0o-00252-00061048-00061223 illustrated guide to all the major _d9-Lhn1e0o-00253-00061224-00061454 traditions of music in worship _d9-Lhn1e0o-00254-00061455-00062199 oxford lyon isbn 9780 _d9-Lhn1e0o-00255-00062200-00062415 topic external links christian music at _d9-Lhn1e0o-00256-00062416-00062606 curley free and open academic _d9-Lhn1e0o-00257-00062607-00062806 meta-engine of latin manuscripts and _d9-Lhn1e0o-00258-00062807-00063079 music sheets in latin english french and _d9-Lhn1e0o-00259-00063079-00063311 spanish _d9-Lhn1e0o-00260-00063312-00063606 billboard praise and worship charts _d9-Lhn1e0o-00261-00063607-00064051 billboard christian airplay charts _dsg9_R3v-8-00000-00000096-00000342 my name is brianne donnelly i run alumni _dsg9_R3v-8-00001-00000343-00000551 relations at macaulay honors college _dsg9_R3v-8-00002-00000552-00000743 um welcome everybody thank you for _dsg9_R3v-8-00003-00000744-00000950 tuning in special thanks to our awesome 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_dsg9_R3v-8-00034-00007084-00007398 um if during the panel if you have a _dsg9_R3v-8-00035-00007400-00007463 question _dsg9_R3v-8-00036-00007464-00007791 put it in the chat box and at the end um _dsg9_R3v-8-00037-00007792-00007863 i'll be _dsg9_R3v-8-00038-00007864-00008046 reading out the questions that come _dsg9_R3v-8-00039-00008047-00008263 through so at any point you can put _dsg9_R3v-8-00040-00008264-00008583 um a message in the chat and it'll be um _dsg9_R3v-8-00041-00008584-00008719 it'll be said at the end _dsg9_R3v-8-00042-00008720-00009071 um so with that i'm gonna um introduce _dsg9_R3v-8-00043-00009072-00009206 our awesome moderator _dsg9_R3v-8-00044-00009207-00009510 who is samantha fang she is _dsg9_R3v-8-00045-00009511-00009759 a macaulay at hunter student she's a _dsg9_R3v-8-00046-00009760-00009991 freshman a statistics major and um she's _dsg9_R3v-8-00047-00009992-00010151 going to take it from here so _dsg9_R3v-8-00048-00010152-00010455 i'm going to hide myself and enjoy the _dsg9_R3v-8-00049-00010456-00010599 panel _dsg9_R3v-8-00050-00010600-00010814 all right thank you so much brianne so _dsg9_R3v-8-00051-00010815-00010942 i'm going to start off by introducing _dsg9_R3v-8-00052-00010943-00011135 the panelists now so first up we have _dsg9_R3v-8-00053-00011136-00011238 eamon coleman _dsg9_R3v-8-00054-00011239-00011391 he is a senior partner business _dsg9_R3v-8-00055-00011392-00011559 development manager at amazon web _dsg9_R3v-8-00056-00011560-00011631 services _dsg9_R3v-8-00057-00011632-00011806 who graduated from baruch college with a _dsg9_R3v-8-00058-00011807-00011991 bachelor's of business administration in _dsg9_R3v-8-00059-00011992-00012046 finance _dsg9_R3v-8-00060-00012047-00012414 in 2009 next up we have ethan frisch _dsg9_R3v-8-00061-00012415-00012638 he graduated in 2008 with a dual degree _dsg9_R3v-8-00062-00012639-00012799 in conflict studies and education _dsg9_R3v-8-00063-00012800-00012966 and social change and is currently the _dsg9_R3v-8-00064-00012967-00013158 co-founder and co-owner of burlap and _dsg9_R3v-8-00065-00013159-00013238 barrel _dsg9_R3v-8-00066-00013240-00013422 which is a successful spice business and _dsg9_R3v-8-00067-00013423-00013599 the co-host of a podcast on the heritage _dsg9_R3v-8-00068-00013600-00013863 radio network called why food _dsg9_R3v-8-00069-00013863-00014094 next we have andrew mahabir he graduated _dsg9_R3v-8-00070-00014095-00014311 from brew college in 2008 with a degree _dsg9_R3v-8-00071-00014312-00014399 in accounting _dsg9_R3v-8-00072-00014400-00014551 and is currently a senior manager at _dsg9_R3v-8-00073-00014552-00014694 deloitte where he has worked for the _dsg9_R3v-8-00074-00014695-00014911 past 11 years _dsg9_R3v-8-00075-00014912-00015127 next we have renee rizzo she has worked _dsg9_R3v-8-00076-00015128-00015294 as a special educator at the high school _dsg9_R3v-8-00077-00015295-00015415 level for nine years _dsg9_R3v-8-00078-00015416-00015575 as well as taking on multiple teacher _dsg9_R3v-8-00079-00015576-00015791 leadership roles and she graduated with _dsg9_R3v-8-00080-00015791-00015943 a bachelor's in elementary general _dsg9_R3v-8-00081-00015944-00016111 education from the college of staten _dsg9_R3v-8-00082-00016112-00016319 island in 2009 _dsg9_R3v-8-00083-00016319-00016527 and last but not least we have brian _dsg9_R3v-8-00084-00016528-00016703 sher he is a physical commodities _dsg9_R3v-8-00085-00016704-00016879 professional who graduated with a degree _dsg9_R3v-8-00086-00016880-00017094 in economics and classical studies _dsg9_R3v-8-00087-00017095-00017335 from hunter in 2010 he currently manages _dsg9_R3v-8-00088-00017336-00017494 a tutoring business and a full-time _dsg9_R3v-8-00089-00017495-00017679 teaching position at hunter college high _dsg9_R3v-8-00090-00017680-00017775 school _dsg9_R3v-8-00091-00017776-00017950 thank you so much again to all of our _dsg9_R3v-8-00092-00017951-00018119 panelists for joining us today i'm just _dsg9_R3v-8-00093-00018120-00018271 going to hop straight into the first _dsg9_R3v-8-00094-00018272-00018583 question now um the first question is _dsg9_R3v-8-00095-00018584-00018711 can you quickly share your current _dsg9_R3v-8-00096-00018712-00018863 position and then can you walk us _dsg9_R3v-8-00097-00018864-00018999 through what the first couple months _dsg9_R3v-8-00098-00019000-00019199 post graduation were like what were your _dsg9_R3v-8-00099-00019200-00019358 first steps and how long did it take you _dsg9_R3v-8-00100-00019359-00019535 to land your first opportunity _dsg9_R3v-8-00101-00019536-00019991 so eamon you're up first sure yeah so um _dsg9_R3v-8-00102-00019992-00020311 eamonn i'm a senior tech biz dev manager _dsg9_R3v-8-00103-00020312-00020655 at amazon and um based here in seattle _dsg9_R3v-8-00104-00020656-00020758 now _dsg9_R3v-8-00105-00020759-00021039 so you know you're asking kind of what _dsg9_R3v-8-00106-00021040-00021239 what the first months kind of felt like _dsg9_R3v-8-00107-00021240-00021294 and _dsg9_R3v-8-00108-00021295-00021527 i know that when i was graduating i _dsg9_R3v-8-00109-00021528-00021799 think the crisis was well underway _dsg9_R3v-8-00110-00021800-00021991 and for me that that kind of time period _dsg9_R3v-8-00111-00021992-00022247 just felt like walking in quicksand _dsg9_R3v-8-00112-00022248-00022671 so definitely very stressful time um _dsg9_R3v-8-00113-00022672-00022991 for me i think the most important thing _dsg9_R3v-8-00114-00022992-00023311 that i you know did was to reach out _dsg9_R3v-8-00115-00023312-00023527 to people in my network and i didn't _dsg9_R3v-8-00116-00023528-00023671 have the strongest network _dsg9_R3v-8-00117-00023672-00023839 at that time i didn't have you know a _dsg9_R3v-8-00118-00023840-00024022 professional network of people that i _dsg9_R3v-8-00119-00024023-00024119 could _dsg9_R3v-8-00120-00024120-00024367 you know reach out to on linkedin or _dsg9_R3v-8-00121-00024368-00024494 whatever it may be so for me was _dsg9_R3v-8-00122-00024495-00024678 actually family _dsg9_R3v-8-00123-00024679-00024999 and i actually um sought a kind of _dsg9_R3v-8-00124-00025000-00025283 mentorship with my uncle _dsg9_R3v-8-00125-00025284-00025702 and the kind of post-graduation was _dsg9_R3v-8-00126-00025704-00025878 you know me spending a few weeks trying _dsg9_R3v-8-00127-00025879-00026070 to figure out what the heck i'm gonna do _dsg9_R3v-8-00128-00026072-00026206 and then i actually bought a one-way _dsg9_R3v-8-00129-00026207-00026358 ticket and i went to europe for a little _dsg9_R3v-8-00130-00026360-00026543 bit to be with my uncle get some kind of _dsg9_R3v-8-00131-00026544-00026639 advice _dsg9_R3v-8-00132-00026639-00026774 and i think it was really important to _dsg9_R3v-8-00133-00026775-00027055 kind of step away from the situation _dsg9_R3v-8-00134-00027056-00027390 um to really kind of uh think seriously _dsg9_R3v-8-00135-00027391-00027574 about about what was going on and _dsg9_R3v-8-00136-00027575-00027855 where where i fit in in the big picture _dsg9_R3v-8-00137-00027856-00027999 um and it took time _dsg9_R3v-8-00138-00028000-00028239 you know i think it took me i was _dsg9_R3v-8-00139-00028239-00028367 thinking back i think it took me about _dsg9_R3v-8-00140-00028368-00028623 six months before i landed something _dsg9_R3v-8-00141-00028624-00028911 so really i had that whole summer um to _dsg9_R3v-8-00142-00028912-00029039 kind of decompress _dsg9_R3v-8-00143-00029039-00029374 and think and then around january _dsg9_R3v-8-00144-00029375-00029702 of that next year i actually i did wind _dsg9_R3v-8-00145-00029704-00029870 up taking a position at a startup _dsg9_R3v-8-00146-00029872-00029999 company _dsg9_R3v-8-00147-00030000-00030158 salary wasn't what i was thinking it _dsg9_R3v-8-00148-00030160-00030383 would be but it was really about the _dsg9_R3v-8-00149-00030383-00030590 experience and and what was unique about _dsg9_R3v-8-00150-00030591-00030687 it was that _dsg9_R3v-8-00151-00030688-00030935 because i took some time to step back i _dsg9_R3v-8-00152-00030936-00031118 actually was able to _dsg9_R3v-8-00153-00031119-00031351 think about things differently and you _dsg9_R3v-8-00154-00031352-00031502 know i took a position at a startup _dsg9_R3v-8-00155-00031503-00031662 company in dublin which gave me some _dsg9_R3v-8-00156-00031663-00031862 international experience _dsg9_R3v-8-00157-00031863-00032087 and you know that six months it actually _dsg9_R3v-8-00158-00032088-00032287 helped me figure out that i could pivot _dsg9_R3v-8-00159-00032288-00032495 so while i wound up majoring in finance _dsg9_R3v-8-00160-00032495-00032646 i wound up doing something _dsg9_R3v-8-00161-00032647-00032846 quite different and it was more in line _dsg9_R3v-8-00162-00032847-00032999 with what i'm passionate about which is _dsg9_R3v-8-00163-00033000-00033079 technology _dsg9_R3v-8-00164-00033080-00033431 i mean um yeah i think that's kind of my _dsg9_R3v-8-00165-00033432-00033607 situation that first couple of _dsg9_R3v-8-00166-00033608-00033927 weeks months were very stressful _dsg9_R3v-8-00167-00033928-00034246 um then you just roll with it and uh _dsg9_R3v-8-00168-00034247-00034462 you know just know that you know if you _dsg9_R3v-8-00169-00034463-00034702 can step back from the situation and and _dsg9_R3v-8-00170-00034703-00034855 kind of evaluate the landscape you'll _dsg9_R3v-8-00171-00034856-00035023 find something all right _dsg9_R3v-8-00172-00035024-00035383 thank you ethan same question yeah so my _dsg9_R3v-8-00173-00035384-00035543 name is ethan frisch i'm the co-founder _dsg9_R3v-8-00174-00035544-00035687 of a company called burlap and barrel _dsg9_R3v-8-00175-00035688-00035862 we're a public benefit corporation _dsg9_R3v-8-00176-00035863-00036023 spice company setting farmers up to _dsg9_R3v-8-00177-00036024-00036190 export their own crops _dsg9_R3v-8-00178-00036191-00036407 which we import and sell online and _dsg9_R3v-8-00179-00036408-00036535 supply to restaurants _dsg9_R3v-8-00180-00036536-00036846 um i graduated in 2008 _dsg9_R3v-8-00181-00036847-00037183 and that was i i uh _dsg9_R3v-8-00182-00037184-00037390 life was good for 10 minutes before the _dsg9_R3v-8-00183-00037391-00037574 financial crisis hit _dsg9_R3v-8-00184-00037575-00037807 i had a job lined up actually with a _dsg9_R3v-8-00185-00037808-00037951 political organization that i'd been _dsg9_R3v-8-00186-00037952-00038095 interning with while i was still in _dsg9_R3v-8-00187-00038096-00038151 college _dsg9_R3v-8-00188-00038152-00038399 the howard gilman foundation and so i _dsg9_R3v-8-00189-00038400-00038518 worked for them for a few months _dsg9_R3v-8-00190-00038519-00038851 but i think it was by october of _dsg9_R3v-8-00191-00038852-00039199 2009 i graduated obviously june or may _dsg9_R3v-8-00192-00039200-00039607 of 20 um by the following year they had _dsg9_R3v-8-00193-00039608-00039646 lost _dsg9_R3v-8-00194-00039647-00039862 their endowment a good chunk of their _dsg9_R3v-8-00195-00039863-00040039 endowment and had laid off my entire _dsg9_R3v-8-00196-00040040-00040135 department _dsg9_R3v-8-00197-00040136-00040295 and so i worked there for just over a _dsg9_R3v-8-00198-00040296-00040439 year and then _dsg9_R3v-8-00199-00040440-00040774 uh hadn't had didn't have a job anymore _dsg9_R3v-8-00200-00040775-00040911 so i wound up working in a restaurant _dsg9_R3v-8-00201-00040912-00040983 kitchen _dsg9_R3v-8-00202-00040984-00041151 which i mean we'll talk about this later _dsg9_R3v-8-00203-00041152-00041311 in the in the discussion but that put me _dsg9_R3v-8-00204-00041312-00041462 on a path that i don't think i ever _dsg9_R3v-8-00205-00041463-00041583 would have been on _dsg9_R3v-8-00206-00041584-00041862 um and which has very directly led me to _dsg9_R3v-8-00207-00041863-00041999 where i am today _dsg9_R3v-8-00208-00042000-00042230 all right thank you uh andrew same _dsg9_R3v-8-00209-00042231-00042383 question _dsg9_R3v-8-00210-00042384-00042583 sure so i'll take i guess maybe the last _dsg9_R3v-8-00211-00042584-00042702 part of your question about landing your _dsg9_R3v-8-00212-00042703-00042879 first opportunity because i think um _dsg9_R3v-8-00213-00042880-00043215 very similar to um you know to ethan _dsg9_R3v-8-00214-00043216-00043471 i graduated 08 so it kind of it was _dsg9_R3v-8-00215-00043472-00043615 really great for about _dsg9_R3v-8-00216-00043616-00043774 you know a month or two before things _dsg9_R3v-8-00217-00043775-00043943 started really going awry but _dsg9_R3v-8-00218-00043944-00044151 i'll maybe take the kind of going about _dsg9_R3v-8-00219-00044152-00044318 landing the first opportunity because _dsg9_R3v-8-00220-00044319-00044446 uh i think it's important for the _dsg9_R3v-8-00221-00044447-00044615 students especially for macaulay honors _dsg9_R3v-8-00222-00044616-00044727 college students that _dsg9_R3v-8-00223-00044728-00044911 this is kind of i guess my big plug for _dsg9_R3v-8-00224-00044912-00045030 the honors college is that _dsg9_R3v-8-00225-00045031-00045207 me actually even just getting a position _dsg9_R3v-8-00226-00045208-00045407 which i thankfully was able to ride _dsg9_R3v-8-00227-00045408-00045471 through the _dsg9_R3v-8-00228-00045472-00045702 um the 2008 crisis and still be at the _dsg9_R3v-8-00229-00045703-00045790 same place for _dsg9_R3v-8-00230-00045791-00046015 it's now 11 years but it really started _dsg9_R3v-8-00231-00046016-00046135 you know just going back to _dsg9_R3v-8-00232-00046136-00046335 my sophomore year um you know through _dsg9_R3v-8-00233-00046336-00046471 the honors college i was able to get _dsg9_R3v-8-00234-00046472-00046646 lined up with an internship at the new _dsg9_R3v-8-00235-00046647-00046711 york life _dsg9_R3v-8-00236-00046712-00046846 new york life insurance company in their _dsg9_R3v-8-00237-00046847-00047046 internal audit department and that _dsg9_R3v-8-00238-00047047-00047095 really _dsg9_R3v-8-00239-00047096-00047302 allowed me to kind of get that first _dsg9_R3v-8-00240-00047303-00047511 major item on my resume _dsg9_R3v-8-00241-00047512-00047758 and then in my junior year i was able to _dsg9_R3v-8-00242-00047759-00047862 study abroad _dsg9_R3v-8-00243-00047863-00048062 through brooklyn college i was able to _dsg9_R3v-8-00244-00048063-00048239 do the winter abroad program that i _dsg9_R3v-8-00245-00048240-00048446 think is still running today _dsg9_R3v-8-00246-00048447-00048583 and was able to take advantage of that _dsg9_R3v-8-00247-00048584-00048758 using my stipend money and _dsg9_R3v-8-00248-00048759-00049055 added that to my resume and then kind of _dsg9_R3v-8-00249-00049056-00049167 those _dsg9_R3v-8-00250-00049168-00049367 kind of experiences combined ultimately _dsg9_R3v-8-00251-00049368-00049471 led me to _dsg9_R3v-8-00252-00049472-00049630 when i was interviewing for internships _dsg9_R3v-8-00253-00049631-00049807 during my time at uh _dsg9_R3v-8-00254-00049808-00050135 my junior year uh you know one of my _dsg9_R3v-8-00255-00050136-00050390 my interview at deloitte um i had two _dsg9_R3v-8-00256-00050391-00050462 interviews _dsg9_R3v-8-00257-00050463-00050623 one was with a partner with a senior _dsg9_R3v-8-00258-00050624-00050774 manager and went okay _dsg9_R3v-8-00259-00050775-00050935 and the other was a partner who _dsg9_R3v-8-00260-00050936-00051079 ultimately went on to do a lot of really _dsg9_R3v-8-00261-00051080-00051135 cool things _dsg9_R3v-8-00262-00051136-00051414 at the firm but he we started with small _dsg9_R3v-8-00263-00051415-00051487 talk about _dsg9_R3v-8-00264-00051488-00051735 my study abroad and then we you know _dsg9_R3v-8-00265-00051736-00051807 kind of _dsg9_R3v-8-00266-00051808-00051958 you know we were about seven minutes _dsg9_R3v-8-00267-00051959-00052102 into the conversation and then he was _dsg9_R3v-8-00268-00052103-00052158 like _dsg9_R3v-8-00269-00052159-00052335 i think i've heard enough um i'm going _dsg9_R3v-8-00270-00052336-00052447 to turn the interview over to you and _dsg9_R3v-8-00271-00052448-00052615 i'd like you to ask some questions _dsg9_R3v-8-00272-00052616-00052854 so this was being a 20 year old having _dsg9_R3v-8-00273-00052855-00052935 to talk to _dsg9_R3v-8-00274-00052936-00053126 a pretty senior partner and kind of _dsg9_R3v-8-00275-00053127-00053279 navigate through an interview _dsg9_R3v-8-00276-00053279-00053399 and thankfully through the experience i _dsg9_R3v-8-00277-00053400-00053575 had through macaulay i was able to you _dsg9_R3v-8-00278-00053576-00053726 know navigate the interview _dsg9_R3v-8-00279-00053727-00053966 an hour later i found out that i had an _dsg9_R3v-8-00280-00053967-00054063 internship _dsg9_R3v-8-00281-00054064-00054399 this was february 2007 and _dsg9_R3v-8-00282-00054400-00054526 they haven't been able to kick me out _dsg9_R3v-8-00283-00054527-00054847 since so it's been about 13 years all in _dsg9_R3v-8-00284-00054848-00054999 and that's kind of been my experience so _dsg9_R3v-8-00285-00055000-00055199 that was you know through _dsg9_R3v-8-00286-00055200-00055319 what i was able to do through the honors _dsg9_R3v-8-00287-00055320-00055519 college it kind of helped situate me to _dsg9_R3v-8-00288-00055520-00055711 get into a good position and i'll talk _dsg9_R3v-8-00289-00055712-00055830 about a little bit later about _dsg9_R3v-8-00290-00055832-00056175 navigating the time in 2008-2009 _dsg9_R3v-8-00291-00056176-00056342 but ultimately i was able to stick _dsg9_R3v-8-00292-00056344-00056535 around and you know be able to be here _dsg9_R3v-8-00293-00056536-00056638 for again for _dsg9_R3v-8-00294-00056639-00056887 almost 13 years including my internship _dsg9_R3v-8-00295-00056888-00056942 all right _dsg9_R3v-8-00296-00056944-00057479 thank you uh renee same question _dsg9_R3v-8-00297-00057479-00057782 so um i graduated in 2009 and _dsg9_R3v-8-00298-00057783-00058079 as you said i was an elementary ed _dsg9_R3v-8-00299-00058079-00058279 general education major _dsg9_R3v-8-00300-00058279-00058479 um at the time i graduated there was a _dsg9_R3v-8-00301-00058479-00058630 hiring freeze _dsg9_R3v-8-00302-00058632-00059087 in general ed so i decided to _dsg9_R3v-8-00303-00059088-00059415 revisit like my options and i found the _dsg9_R3v-8-00304-00059416-00059566 college of staten island _dsg9_R3v-8-00305-00059567-00059894 education department very helpful in the _dsg9_R3v-8-00306-00059895-00060126 suggestions that they made to us _dsg9_R3v-8-00307-00060127-00060359 um they suggested that many of us _dsg9_R3v-8-00308-00060360-00060526 instead of going part-time for our _dsg9_R3v-8-00309-00060527-00060671 master's degree _dsg9_R3v-8-00310-00060672-00060999 because we had this _dsg9_R3v-8-00311-00061000-00061319 opportunity almost um to go full-time _dsg9_R3v-8-00312-00061320-00061559 so i went full-time uh from my master's _dsg9_R3v-8-00313-00061560-00061887 degree in special education i decided to _dsg9_R3v-8-00314-00061888-00062030 specialize _dsg9_R3v-8-00315-00062032-00062287 to make myself more marketable and more _dsg9_R3v-8-00316-00062288-00062519 likely to get a job _dsg9_R3v-8-00317-00062520-00062863 um that was my original intention _dsg9_R3v-8-00318-00062864-00063111 and since then i've been in the field of _dsg9_R3v-8-00319-00063112-00063342 special ed for nine years and i couldn't _dsg9_R3v-8-00320-00063344-00063599 even see myself as a general ed teacher _dsg9_R3v-8-00321-00063600-00063663 so _dsg9_R3v-8-00322-00063664-00063966 it started out with going through um _dsg9_R3v-8-00323-00063967-00064230 for the master's program full-time i _dsg9_R3v-8-00324-00064232-00064335 started subbing _dsg9_R3v-8-00325-00064336-00064566 substitute teaching simultaneously for a _dsg9_R3v-8-00326-00064567-00064638 year and _dsg9_R3v-8-00327-00064639-00065038 then i got a job so you know _dsg9_R3v-8-00328-00065039-00065254 similar to what uh i think it was eamon _dsg9_R3v-8-00329-00065255-00065494 who said like realize he could pivot _dsg9_R3v-8-00330-00065495-00065806 that's what you you wind up doing _dsg9_R3v-8-00331-00065807-00066087 just deal with the circumstances however _dsg9_R3v-8-00332-00066088-00066303 you can _dsg9_R3v-8-00333-00066304-00066487 all right and last but not least brian _dsg9_R3v-8-00334-00066488-00066815 same question _dsg9_R3v-8-00335-00066816-00067150 uh hey um so i was _dsg9_R3v-8-00336-00067151-00067359 i was a little bit more towards the the _dsg9_R3v-8-00337-00067360-00067455 tail end but _dsg9_R3v-8-00338-00067456-00067791 um so so as people said it the financial _dsg9_R3v-8-00339-00067792-00067950 crisis kind of got worse in 2009 and _dsg9_R3v-8-00340-00067951-00068087 they still weren't really hiring too _dsg9_R3v-8-00341-00068088-00068159 much in _dsg9_R3v-8-00342-00068160-00068471 in 2010 um uh even though things were _dsg9_R3v-8-00343-00068472-00068615 starting to unfreeze a little bit _dsg9_R3v-8-00344-00068616-00068935 it was not a it was it was not a market _dsg9_R3v-8-00345-00068936-00069119 for the people who were looking but uh _dsg9_R3v-8-00346-00069120-00069335 i think people already said uh personal _dsg9_R3v-8-00347-00069336-00069423 network and _dsg9_R3v-8-00348-00069424-00069543 and that's gonna you're not gonna have _dsg9_R3v-8-00349-00069544-00069719 business contacts i think there's a man _dsg9_R3v-8-00350-00069720-00069935 who said that so that looks like family _dsg9_R3v-8-00351-00069936-00070135 for me another avenue is i had been on _dsg9_R3v-8-00352-00070136-00070303 the wrestling team at hunter _dsg9_R3v-8-00353-00070304-00070647 and you can you can totally reach out to _dsg9_R3v-8-00354-00070648-00070863 alumni cold i found out you can't reach _dsg9_R3v-8-00355-00070864-00070999 out to someone you've never met before _dsg9_R3v-8-00356-00071000-00071150 and say hey give me a job _dsg9_R3v-8-00357-00071151-00071406 but you can say people are really really _dsg9_R3v-8-00358-00071407-00071471 open to _dsg9_R3v-8-00359-00071472-00071687 hey you know i'm graduating there's a _dsg9_R3v-8-00360-00071688-00071831 lot of uncertainty _dsg9_R3v-8-00361-00071832-00072047 uh i need some advice would you would _dsg9_R3v-8-00362-00072048-00072143 you like to _dsg9_R3v-8-00363-00072144-00072311 have a coffee i guess today the version _dsg9_R3v-8-00364-00072312-00072511 of that would be chat on zoom but _dsg9_R3v-8-00365-00072512-00072838 um but the same thing applies and i did _dsg9_R3v-8-00366-00072839-00072967 a lot of that _dsg9_R3v-8-00367-00072968-00073311 and actually my i had an internship with _dsg9_R3v-8-00368-00073312-00073447 morgan stanley _dsg9_R3v-8-00369-00073448-00073743 um that i was juggling my senior year _dsg9_R3v-8-00370-00073744-00073982 along with classes and stuff and uh _dsg9_R3v-8-00371-00073983-00074199 you know that was through through a _dsg9_R3v-8-00372-00074200-00074303 wrestling alumni _dsg9_R3v-8-00373-00074304-00074479 you know and i got a lot of i got a lot _dsg9_R3v-8-00374-00074480-00074703 of meetings like that you know and and _dsg9_R3v-8-00375-00074704-00074871 my other advice is just _dsg9_R3v-8-00376-00074872-00075175 just go on any meeting or your interview _dsg9_R3v-8-00377-00075176-00075287 i went on even if _dsg9_R3v-8-00378-00075288-00075415 even if i didn't really think i was _dsg9_R3v-8-00379-00075416-00075623 interested in the field like the job i _dsg9_R3v-8-00380-00075624-00075726 ended up _dsg9_R3v-8-00381-00075727-00076038 in was physical commodities trading _dsg9_R3v-8-00382-00076039-00076199 and i didn't even know that was a niche _dsg9_R3v-8-00383-00076200-00076359 that existed _dsg9_R3v-8-00384-00076360-00076694 and and it's this huge business that _dsg9_R3v-8-00385-00076695-00076935 all the major investment banks were in _dsg9_R3v-8-00386-00076936-00077062 and a lot of the financial services _dsg9_R3v-8-00387-00077063-00077238 companies were in that i i wasn't even _dsg9_R3v-8-00388-00077239-00077391 it wasn't even on my radar _dsg9_R3v-8-00389-00077392-00077711 and that was i took a meeting with a guy _dsg9_R3v-8-00390-00077712-00078126 who had been like cfo of uh of a pool _dsg9_R3v-8-00391-00078127-00078343 they made like supplies for pools you _dsg9_R3v-8-00392-00078344-00078575 know and then he introduced me to this _dsg9_R3v-8-00393-00078576-00078631 guy _dsg9_R3v-8-00394-00078632-00078838 who was you know a managing director on _dsg9_R3v-8-00395-00078839-00079031 this commodities desk _dsg9_R3v-8-00396-00079032-00079231 and and you know that turned into a job _dsg9_R3v-8-00397-00079232-00079494 and and and you'll get a lot of bad like _dsg9_R3v-8-00398-00079495-00079799 i went on some interview with some uh _dsg9_R3v-8-00399-00079800-00079959 investment advisors who return it turned _dsg9_R3v-8-00400-00079960-00080126 out to be like a boiler room really is _dsg9_R3v-8-00401-00080127-00080238 what it was _dsg9_R3v-8-00402-00080239-00080438 and uh i'm sitting in the guy's office _dsg9_R3v-8-00403-00080439-00080591 and he's like telling me like you need _dsg9_R3v-8-00404-00080592-00080759 to be a little greedy for this job and _dsg9_R3v-8-00405-00080760-00080926 stuff and then he tells me like _dsg9_R3v-8-00406-00080927-00081071 you need to tell me right now if you _dsg9_R3v-8-00407-00081072-00081262 want this job or not you know and i was _dsg9_R3v-8-00408-00081263-00081303 like _dsg9_R3v-8-00409-00081304-00081526 no i don't want this job at all but it _dsg9_R3v-8-00410-00081527-00081687 was a good experience because _dsg9_R3v-8-00411-00081688-00081847 you know i learned i learned how to say _dsg9_R3v-8-00412-00081848-00082071 no i learned what like _dsg9_R3v-8-00413-00082072-00082279 a not legitimate financial services _dsg9_R3v-8-00414-00082280-00082406 company looks at _dsg9_R3v-8-00415-00082407-00082559 and i have a funny story to tell for the _dsg9_R3v-8-00416-00082560-00082735 rest of my life so _dsg9_R3v-8-00417-00082736-00082879 i just went on a lot of stuff and took _dsg9_R3v-8-00418-00082880-00083023 the attitude that i was going to learn _dsg9_R3v-8-00419-00083024-00083126 from everybody _dsg9_R3v-8-00420-00083127-00083294 and that i didn't know much about _dsg9_R3v-8-00421-00083295-00083631 anything which was definitely the case _dsg9_R3v-8-00422-00083632-00083911 all right thank you my next question is _dsg9_R3v-8-00423-00083912-00084055 what would you say is your biggest _dsg9_R3v-8-00424-00084056-00084206 takeaway from your experiences _dsg9_R3v-8-00425-00084207-00084438 navigating the 2008 financial crisis _dsg9_R3v-8-00426-00084439-00084559 and what advice would you give your _dsg9_R3v-8-00427-00084560-00084726 younger self and to current graduates _dsg9_R3v-8-00428-00084727-00084831 who will be going through something _dsg9_R3v-8-00429-00084832-00085206 similar so amen you're up first _dsg9_R3v-8-00430-00085207-00085494 i think the biggest one for me was just _dsg9_R3v-8-00431-00085495-00085679 right the path isn't set in stone _dsg9_R3v-8-00432-00085680-00085815 renee said something great was like _dsg9_R3v-8-00433-00085816-00086023 think of it as as an opportunity in a _dsg9_R3v-8-00434-00086024-00086118 way right _dsg9_R3v-8-00435-00086119-00086343 because in many in many ways you're kind _dsg9_R3v-8-00436-00086344-00086487 of stuck studying _dsg9_R3v-8-00437-00086488-00086711 not stuck but you've spent the last four _dsg9_R3v-8-00438-00086712-00086943 years really focused on your studies _dsg9_R3v-8-00439-00086944-00087215 and the truth is you're still young so _dsg9_R3v-8-00440-00087216-00087359 when you get out it's an actual _dsg9_R3v-8-00441-00087360-00087518 opportunity to kind of see the forest _dsg9_R3v-8-00442-00087519-00087775 from the trees you know six months ago _dsg9_R3v-8-00443-00087776-00087871 you might have said _dsg9_R3v-8-00444-00087872-00088223 your dream job was to go work at airbnb _dsg9_R3v-8-00445-00088224-00088415 they may not even survive the next six _dsg9_R3v-8-00446-00088416-00088543 months to a year _dsg9_R3v-8-00447-00088544-00088791 so think about how the world changes _dsg9_R3v-8-00448-00088792-00088943 after this because _dsg9_R3v-8-00449-00088944-00089279 it is a completely unique event and _dsg9_R3v-8-00450-00089280-00089391 things are going to be different going _dsg9_R3v-8-00451-00089392-00089591 forward so you actually have an _dsg9_R3v-8-00452-00089592-00089767 opportunity to take some time to step _dsg9_R3v-8-00453-00089768-00089855 back _dsg9_R3v-8-00454-00089856-00090094 and kind of you know look at the the _dsg9_R3v-8-00455-00090095-00090175 situation _dsg9_R3v-8-00456-00090176-00090406 so certainly you know it doesn't doesn't _dsg9_R3v-8-00457-00090407-00090615 feel like an opportunity but in in a way _dsg9_R3v-8-00458-00090616-00090662 it is _dsg9_R3v-8-00459-00090663-00091031 so take advantage of it uh ethan same _dsg9_R3v-8-00460-00091032-00091103 question _dsg9_R3v-8-00461-00091104-00091399 yeah uh i've been laid off like five or _dsg9_R3v-8-00462-00091400-00091487 six times _dsg9_R3v-8-00463-00091488-00091711 over the course of my career the the _dsg9_R3v-8-00464-00091712-00091871 foundation laid me off i worked for a _dsg9_R3v-8-00465-00091872-00092023 restaurant that closed i worked for a _dsg9_R3v-8-00466-00092024-00092199 startup that closed i worked for _dsg9_R3v-8-00467-00092200-00092406 a catering company that closed i mean _dsg9_R3v-8-00468-00092407-00092543 this kind of thing _dsg9_R3v-8-00469-00092544-00092735 is going to happen to you almost _dsg9_R3v-8-00470-00092736-00092871 regardless of when you graduate but _dsg9_R3v-8-00471-00092872-00092974 particularly _dsg9_R3v-8-00472-00092975-00093135 graduating in the middle of a financial _dsg9_R3v-8-00473-00093136-00093335 crisis um _dsg9_R3v-8-00474-00093336-00093503 so some of it is just finding the _dsg9_R3v-8-00475-00093504-00093703 resilience in yourself to roll with it _dsg9_R3v-8-00476-00093704-00093926 and pivot as other people have mentioned _dsg9_R3v-8-00477-00093927-00094206 um but the other thing i guess my _dsg9_R3v-8-00478-00094207-00094326 biggest takeaway was _dsg9_R3v-8-00479-00094327-00094574 was how lucky i was to be graduating _dsg9_R3v-8-00480-00094575-00094711 from mcauley _dsg9_R3v-8-00481-00094712-00094903 i i've seen all of my friends who _dsg9_R3v-8-00482-00094904-00095079 graduated from schools where they _dsg9_R3v-8-00483-00095080-00095279 actually had to spend money to attend _dsg9_R3v-8-00484-00095280-00095406 those schools _dsg9_R3v-8-00485-00095407-00095591 i've just seen them struggle for the _dsg9_R3v-8-00486-00095592-00095791 last especially in the years right after _dsg9_R3v-8-00487-00095792-00096023 we graduated but even you know 10 to 15 _dsg9_R3v-8-00488-00096024-00096062 years _dsg9_R3v-8-00489-00096063-00096271 after graduation people are still paying _dsg9_R3v-8-00490-00096272-00096367 off student debt _dsg9_R3v-8-00491-00096368-00096687 people are still struggling with with _dsg9_R3v-8-00492-00096688-00096862 the the both the financial burden but _dsg9_R3v-8-00493-00096863-00096999 also just the emotional _dsg9_R3v-8-00494-00097000-00097150 intellectual burden of carrying that _dsg9_R3v-8-00495-00097151-00097303 debt with them and _dsg9_R3v-8-00496-00097304-00097511 and it's definitely limited their career _dsg9_R3v-8-00497-00097512-00097655 choices it's put them in a position of _dsg9_R3v-8-00498-00097656-00097703 saying _dsg9_R3v-8-00499-00097704-00097926 can i do what i love or can i do what _dsg9_R3v-8-00500-00097927-00098055 pays me enough to _dsg9_R3v-8-00501-00098056-00098391 to pay off my student loans um and _dsg9_R3v-8-00502-00098392-00098638 luckily thankfully that was never a _dsg9_R3v-8-00503-00098639-00098823 compromise that i had to make and _dsg9_R3v-8-00504-00098824-00099015 and hopefully not a compromise that any _dsg9_R3v-8-00505-00099016-00099135 of you will have to make either because _dsg9_R3v-8-00506-00099136-00099238 you're graduating _dsg9_R3v-8-00507-00099239-00099406 without that enormous burden on your _dsg9_R3v-8-00508-00099407-00099550 shoulders it gives you so much more _dsg9_R3v-8-00509-00099551-00099623 freedom _dsg9_R3v-8-00510-00099624-00099862 to make the pivots to to experiment to _dsg9_R3v-8-00511-00099863-00100031 pursue things that you're interested in _dsg9_R3v-8-00512-00100032-00100223 that may not pay very well but but you _dsg9_R3v-8-00513-00100224-00100415 will love and you'll learn a lot doing _dsg9_R3v-8-00514-00100416-00100726 yeah uh andrew same question _dsg9_R3v-8-00515-00100727-00100943 yeah i mean just uh i think we're all _dsg9_R3v-8-00516-00100944-00101087 the alumni are kind of nodding their _dsg9_R3v-8-00517-00101088-00101199 heads here because i think we were all _dsg9_R3v-8-00518-00101200-00101343 really thankful to not have to worry _dsg9_R3v-8-00519-00101344-00101415 about that _dsg9_R3v-8-00520-00101416-00101647 debt and i i kind of actually posed some _dsg9_R3v-8-00521-00101648-00101799 of these questions out to some friends _dsg9_R3v-8-00522-00101800-00101943 on linkedin just to kind of see what _dsg9_R3v-8-00523-00101944-00102023 they thought _dsg9_R3v-8-00524-00102024-00102167 so a lot of my colleagues also graduate _dsg9_R3v-8-00525-00102168-00102359 at the same time and definitely the _dsg9_R3v-8-00526-00102360-00102542 advice i got was around just being able _dsg9_R3v-8-00527-00102543-00102694 to take advantage of the opportunities _dsg9_R3v-8-00528-00102695-00102847 that we don't have the enormous amount _dsg9_R3v-8-00529-00102848-00102999 of debt over our heads and _dsg9_R3v-8-00530-00103000-00103182 you know whether that be you know _dsg9_R3v-8-00531-00103183-00103351 needing if you know if your _dsg9_R3v-8-00532-00103352-00103510 circumstances change and let's say you _dsg9_R3v-8-00533-00103511-00103663 had an internship or a full-time offer _dsg9_R3v-8-00534-00103664-00103702 that _dsg9_R3v-8-00535-00103703-00103982 is either now going to be altered or _dsg9_R3v-8-00536-00103983-00104158 maybe just evaporate altogether _dsg9_R3v-8-00537-00104159-00104351 i mean there's some ways to be flexible _dsg9_R3v-8-00538-00104352-00104471 and resourceful i think _dsg9_R3v-8-00539-00104472-00104590 you know eamon mentioned that i think _dsg9_R3v-8-00540-00104591-00104742 everyone here has mentioned it but just _dsg9_R3v-8-00541-00104743-00104910 the ability to continue to be flexible _dsg9_R3v-8-00542-00104911-00105039 and resourceful _dsg9_R3v-8-00543-00105040-00105254 but again uh whether it be maybe even _dsg9_R3v-8-00544-00105255-00105407 just taking an unpaid internship _dsg9_R3v-8-00545-00105408-00105599 you know we have the flexibility again _dsg9_R3v-8-00546-00105600-00105783 through the you know not having that _dsg9_R3v-8-00547-00105783-00105847 student debt _dsg9_R3v-8-00548-00105848-00105999 you know getting that extra thing on _dsg9_R3v-8-00549-00106000-00106166 your resume or maybe it's that volunteer _dsg9_R3v-8-00550-00106167-00106271 opportunity and maybe like _dsg9_R3v-8-00551-00106272-00106486 like amen said he took a pivot it was _dsg9_R3v-8-00552-00106488-00106647 able to go from finance to doing _dsg9_R3v-8-00553-00106648-00106775 something else this could be your _dsg9_R3v-8-00554-00106776-00106927 opportunity you know you spent four _dsg9_R3v-8-00555-00106928-00107007 years _dsg9_R3v-8-00556-00107008-00107183 you know thinking about graduating and _dsg9_R3v-8-00557-00107183-00107334 majoring in something thinking that _dsg9_R3v-8-00558-00107335-00107486 that's where you wanted to be but _dsg9_R3v-8-00559-00107488-00107639 that may not necessarily have been where _dsg9_R3v-8-00560-00107640-00107831 your heart is this could be an _dsg9_R3v-8-00561-00107832-00107999 opportunity to just take that _dsg9_R3v-8-00562-00108000-00108239 and to make that pivot because you don't _dsg9_R3v-8-00563-00108240-00108454 necessarily have that burden _dsg9_R3v-8-00564-00108455-00108566 and then i think the other thing i'd _dsg9_R3v-8-00565-00108567-00108719 like to just say is that you know there _dsg9_R3v-8-00566-00108720-00108799 is and again _dsg9_R3v-8-00567-00108800-00108919 you can kind of mention this there's a _dsg9_R3v-8-00568-00108920-00109054 little bit of a mental health thing here _dsg9_R3v-8-00569-00109055-00109151 i mean like _dsg9_R3v-8-00570-00109152-00109495 i kind of saw the full brunt of 2008 _dsg9_R3v-8-00571-00109496-00109807 and saw 50 of my start class you know _dsg9_R3v-8-00572-00109808-00109927 over 200 people _dsg9_R3v-8-00573-00109928-00110247 get laid off you know we we graduated at _dsg9_R3v-8-00574-00110248-00110327 a time where _dsg9_R3v-8-00575-00110328-00110534 you know there was you know we really _dsg9_R3v-8-00576-00110535-00110647 didn't have smartphones the way we had _dsg9_R3v-8-00577-00110648-00110807 smartphones today so basically you'd _dsg9_R3v-8-00578-00110808-00110958 come into the office _dsg9_R3v-8-00579-00110959-00111247 open up your laptop and like essentially _dsg9_R3v-8-00580-00111248-00111423 there was potentially an email _dsg9_R3v-8-00581-00111424-00111583 in your inbox that said hey you need to _dsg9_R3v-8-00582-00111583-00111783 report to this partner _dsg9_R3v-8-00583-00111783-00111927 and that was basically your email that _dsg9_R3v-8-00584-00111928-00112119 you were getting let go so there was _dsg9_R3v-8-00585-00112120-00112399 legitimately like a two-month you know _dsg9_R3v-8-00586-00112400-00112534 time frame where you just didn't want to _dsg9_R3v-8-00587-00112535-00112671 open up your inbox and didn't want to _dsg9_R3v-8-00588-00112672-00112799 open up your email _dsg9_R3v-8-00589-00112800-00112999 um but what i learned out of that was _dsg9_R3v-8-00590-00113000-00113166 that you know us being the most junior _dsg9_R3v-8-00591-00113167-00113302 folks to the firm _dsg9_R3v-8-00592-00113303-00113447 you know there really wasn't much that _dsg9_R3v-8-00593-00113448-00113631 we could do and it was a lot of it was _dsg9_R3v-8-00594-00113632-00113775 out of our hands so you really can't _dsg9_R3v-8-00595-00113776-00113958 blame yourself in any of this it's just _dsg9_R3v-8-00596-00113959-00114015 that _dsg9_R3v-8-00597-00114016-00114183 there's circumstances that are happening _dsg9_R3v-8-00598-00114183-00114334 way out of your control _dsg9_R3v-8-00599-00114335-00114527 so you know you can't let you can't have _dsg9_R3v-8-00600-00114528-00114710 that way you down too much and just _dsg9_R3v-8-00601-00114711-00114943 again use it as an opportunity to pivot _dsg9_R3v-8-00602-00114944-00115023 and kind of _dsg9_R3v-8-00603-00115024-00115302 you know to explore to do something else _dsg9_R3v-8-00604-00115303-00115390 all right thank you _dsg9_R3v-8-00605-00115391-00115751 renee same question um yeah so andrew _dsg9_R3v-8-00606-00115752-00115854 spoke a lot about _dsg9_R3v-8-00607-00115855-00116190 flexibility and um just _dsg9_R3v-8-00608-00116191-00116439 being able to maneuver through things _dsg9_R3v-8-00609-00116440-00116583 that you didn't expect to have to _dsg9_R3v-8-00610-00116583-00116678 maneuver thing _dsg9_R3v-8-00611-00116679-00116999 through i think is um a big _dsg9_R3v-8-00612-00117000-00117358 life lesson just for work things for _dsg9_R3v-8-00613-00117359-00117463 school things and _dsg9_R3v-8-00614-00117464-00117647 even for personal things because we all _dsg9_R3v-8-00615-00117648-00117871 go through things in life _dsg9_R3v-8-00616-00117872-00118215 um so i think the biggest takeaway is _dsg9_R3v-8-00617-00118216-00118510 to be completely flexible like i found _dsg9_R3v-8-00618-00118511-00118654 out that special education _dsg9_R3v-8-00619-00118655-00118927 was for me but had it not been for me it _dsg9_R3v-8-00620-00118928-00119071 would have at least been a stepping _dsg9_R3v-8-00621-00119072-00119207 stone and it would have _dsg9_R3v-8-00622-00119208-00119471 been something that i can learn from and _dsg9_R3v-8-00623-00119472-00119607 then move on _dsg9_R3v-8-00624-00119608-00119902 when the opportunities did come back _dsg9_R3v-8-00625-00119903-00120102 that's another lesson that the pendulum _dsg9_R3v-8-00626-00120103-00120310 in life kind of always swings back and _dsg9_R3v-8-00627-00120311-00120463 forth _dsg9_R3v-8-00628-00120464-00120719 although things seem negative and dire _dsg9_R3v-8-00629-00120720-00120943 now it will not be that way forever and _dsg9_R3v-8-00630-00120944-00121134 that's just the ebb and flow of life in _dsg9_R3v-8-00631-00121135-00121247 general _dsg9_R3v-8-00632-00121248-00121454 um we're definitely lucky to have _dsg9_R3v-8-00633-00121455-00121647 graduated from macaulay where we don't _dsg9_R3v-8-00634-00121648-00121766 have a lot of _dsg9_R3v-8-00635-00121767-00121990 student debt um because that's a very _dsg9_R3v-8-00636-00121991-00122158 real problem _dsg9_R3v-8-00637-00122159-00122534 um also something that i learned is _dsg9_R3v-8-00638-00122535-00122702 kind of sometimes it's okay to get _dsg9_R3v-8-00639-00122703-00122878 emotional about a situation _dsg9_R3v-8-00640-00122879-00123207 because it it is a lot to face um but _dsg9_R3v-8-00641-00123208-00123502 once you vent or get through the _dsg9_R3v-8-00642-00123503-00123695 emotions of it _dsg9_R3v-8-00643-00123696-00124071 sort of back away and look at strategy _dsg9_R3v-8-00644-00124072-00124478 like okay what are my actual options _dsg9_R3v-8-00645-00124479-00124727 and what is the most likely option to _dsg9_R3v-8-00646-00124728-00124958 yield positive results for me _dsg9_R3v-8-00647-00124959-00125278 so um i guess don't get mired _dsg9_R3v-8-00648-00125279-00125590 in the emotions of a situation although _dsg9_R3v-8-00649-00125591-00125854 it's normal to have emotions about the _dsg9_R3v-8-00650-00125855-00125999 situation _dsg9_R3v-8-00651-00126000-00126319 negative or whatever um but don't get _dsg9_R3v-8-00652-00126320-00126447 stuck there _dsg9_R3v-8-00653-00126448-00126854 um have your feelings and then move on _dsg9_R3v-8-00654-00126855-00127207 and just see what your options are _dsg9_R3v-8-00655-00127208-00127647 all right brian same question _dsg9_R3v-8-00656-00127648-00127951 yeah i mean it's similar to what other _dsg9_R3v-8-00657-00127952-00128102 people have said i think i think the _dsg9_R3v-8-00658-00128103-00128302 point is you you just _dsg9_R3v-8-00659-00128303-00128502 you don't you never know what's gonna _dsg9_R3v-8-00660-00128503-00128623 happen like _dsg9_R3v-8-00661-00128624-00128839 the 2008 financial crisis there there _dsg9_R3v-8-00662-00128840-00129119 were like three guys who saw that coming _dsg9_R3v-8-00663-00129120-00129295 you know what i mean they wrote a book _dsg9_R3v-8-00664-00129296-00129447 about them and made a movie about them _dsg9_R3v-8-00665-00129448-00129631 because that's how few people really saw _dsg9_R3v-8-00666-00129632-00129758 any of that coming _dsg9_R3v-8-00667-00129759-00129934 i get blindsided everybody and this _dsg9_R3v-8-00668-00129935-00130078 whole thing too and so _dsg9_R3v-8-00669-00130079-00130278 so anything you do and no matter how _dsg9_R3v-8-00670-00130279-00130510 well laid your plans are i mean _dsg9_R3v-8-00671-00130511-00130823 i've experienced it i i was part of a a _dsg9_R3v-8-00672-00130824-00130878 startup _dsg9_R3v-8-00673-00130879-00131078 a trading company i moved to dubai and _dsg9_R3v-8-00674-00131079-00131287 um we had a _dsg9_R3v-8-00675-00131288-00131487 great investor backing and we we had _dsg9_R3v-8-00676-00131488-00131639 this really exciting opportunity _dsg9_R3v-8-00677-00131640-00131878 and somebody on another desk makes one _dsg9_R3v-8-00678-00131879-00131959 trade and _dsg9_R3v-8-00679-00131960-00132207 the whole thing is like gone in an _dsg9_R3v-8-00680-00132208-00132263 instant _dsg9_R3v-8-00681-00132264-00132527 you know uh one bad trade from some guy _dsg9_R3v-8-00682-00132528-00132566 on _dsg9_R3v-8-00683-00132567-00132831 a different desk and so you know you _dsg9_R3v-8-00684-00132832-00132919 really _dsg9_R3v-8-00685-00132920-00133127 you don't know what's gonna happen and _dsg9_R3v-8-00686-00133128-00133311 and that's like _dsg9_R3v-8-00687-00133312-00133519 that's just the way it is and but but it _dsg9_R3v-8-00688-00133520-00133663 doesn't necessarily have to be a bad _dsg9_R3v-8-00689-00133664-00133799 thing because _dsg9_R3v-8-00690-00133800-00134031 like other people were saying you know _dsg9_R3v-8-00691-00134032-00134263 you don't you don't even know _dsg9_R3v-8-00692-00134264-00134478 what opportunity is the best for you or _dsg9_R3v-8-00693-00134479-00134687 at least my experiences i haven't always _dsg9_R3v-8-00694-00134688-00134799 known like _dsg9_R3v-8-00695-00134800-00134959 i really thought that i wanted to be a _dsg9_R3v-8-00696-00134960-00135119 trader and for _dsg9_R3v-8-00697-00135120-00135271 for a little bit of time i was i was _dsg9_R3v-8-00698-00135272-00135463 really happy doing it but but what i _dsg9_R3v-8-00699-00135464-00135623 actually found is after six or seven _dsg9_R3v-8-00700-00135624-00135823 years in that businesses _dsg9_R3v-8-00701-00135824-00136071 is like i was i was really unhappy with _dsg9_R3v-8-00702-00136072-00136190 and i was done with it _dsg9_R3v-8-00703-00136191-00136575 you know and um you know _dsg9_R3v-8-00704-00136576-00136759 looking back i was unhappy with it _dsg9_R3v-8-00705-00136760-00136999 probably for years before that business _dsg9_R3v-8-00706-00137000-00137327 you know blew up and uh so if that at _dsg9_R3v-8-00707-00137328-00137454 all never happened i probably would have _dsg9_R3v-8-00708-00137455-00137623 never made a career change _dsg9_R3v-8-00709-00137624-00137807 and and now you know now i'm a teacher i _dsg9_R3v-8-00710-00137808-00137990 work at hunter college high school and _dsg9_R3v-8-00711-00137991-00138278 i absolutely love it you know and uh i _dsg9_R3v-8-00712-00138279-00138487 go into work and i i just have like _dsg9_R3v-8-00713-00138488-00138839 a ton of joy um with everything that i _dsg9_R3v-8-00714-00138840-00139023 do and and so like _dsg9_R3v-8-00715-00139024-00139190 you know just like i never could have _dsg9_R3v-8-00716-00139191-00139366 planned my first career i never could _dsg9_R3v-8-00717-00139367-00139527 have planned my second career _dsg9_R3v-8-00718-00139528-00139775 and and for some people your career will _dsg9_R3v-8-00719-00139776-00139839 work out _dsg9_R3v-8-00720-00139840-00140063 like linearly and you will be happy _dsg9_R3v-8-00721-00140064-00140199 obviously there's people here that _dsg9_R3v-8-00722-00140200-00140319 that's happened to _dsg9_R3v-8-00723-00140320-00140566 and that's the case but like it doesn't _dsg9_R3v-8-00724-00140567-00140759 have to be linear to be good _dsg9_R3v-8-00725-00140760-00141087 you know so i don't know _dsg9_R3v-8-00726-00141088-00141239 that's that's been my experience at _dsg9_R3v-8-00727-00141240-00141423 least all right _dsg9_R3v-8-00728-00141424-00141727 thank you um my next question is can you _dsg9_R3v-8-00729-00141728-00141911 describe how you're feeling at the time _dsg9_R3v-8-00730-00141912-00142007 of graduation _dsg9_R3v-8-00731-00142008-00142263 did you feel prepared nervous lost kind _dsg9_R3v-8-00732-00142264-00142431 of walk us through what was on your mind _dsg9_R3v-8-00733-00142432-00142511 at the time _dsg9_R3v-8-00734-00142512-00142831 um eamon you're up first yeah _dsg9_R3v-8-00735-00142832-00143087 um i definitely i would say like dazed _dsg9_R3v-8-00736-00143088-00143247 and confused _dsg9_R3v-8-00737-00143248-00143535 um you know i don't want to say i felt _dsg9_R3v-8-00738-00143536-00143614 scared or _dsg9_R3v-8-00739-00143615-00143919 truly unprepared i do think that a lot _dsg9_R3v-8-00740-00143920-00144102 of the experiences i had again just _dsg9_R3v-8-00741-00144103-00144254 just going to school in new york city _dsg9_R3v-8-00742-00144255-00144454 right is one thing like it's just _dsg9_R3v-8-00743-00144455-00144583 something about _dsg9_R3v-8-00744-00144584-00144814 you know it it toughens you and it it _dsg9_R3v-8-00745-00144815-00144999 makes you resilient _dsg9_R3v-8-00746-00145000-00145295 um so i don't feel like i was entirely _dsg9_R3v-8-00747-00145296-00145399 unprepared _dsg9_R3v-8-00748-00145400-00145743 um you know i also had a study abroad _dsg9_R3v-8-00749-00145744-00145911 experience which kind of opened my eyes _dsg9_R3v-8-00750-00145912-00146014 up to _dsg9_R3v-8-00751-00146015-00146223 you know just rolling with punches and _dsg9_R3v-8-00752-00146224-00146326 just kind of _dsg9_R3v-8-00753-00146327-00146575 um you know being up for an adventure so _dsg9_R3v-8-00754-00146576-00146702 i looked at it _dsg9_R3v-8-00755-00146703-00147031 as a kind of opportunity to uh just take _dsg9_R3v-8-00756-00147032-00147199 risks and do things a little bit _dsg9_R3v-8-00757-00147200-00147319 differently _dsg9_R3v-8-00758-00147320-00147535 because i didn't really have a choice so _dsg9_R3v-8-00759-00147536-00147743 um yeah i was definitely worried at the _dsg9_R3v-8-00760-00147744-00148014 at the onset of graduation but that that _dsg9_R3v-8-00761-00148015-00148071 quickly _dsg9_R3v-8-00762-00148072-00148271 kind of faded away and i just looked for _dsg9_R3v-8-00763-00148272-00148483 ways to take advantage of it _dsg9_R3v-8-00764-00148484-00148799 um yeah i was definitely emotional so i _dsg9_R3v-8-00765-00148800-00148966 i would just kind of say like again you _dsg9_R3v-8-00766-00148967-00149159 don't go it alone i think brian _dsg9_R3v-8-00767-00149160-00149326 mentioned something and _dsg9_R3v-8-00768-00149327-00149526 like just feel free to reach out to _dsg9_R3v-8-00769-00149527-00149726 people especially alumni you know myself _dsg9_R3v-8-00770-00149727-00149854 included like _dsg9_R3v-8-00771-00149855-00150039 you would be surprised that people that _dsg9_R3v-8-00772-00150040-00150254 you don't know but you just have _dsg9_R3v-8-00773-00150255-00150583 the slightest connection to will be _dsg9_R3v-8-00774-00150584-00150775 you know it these types of times bring _dsg9_R3v-8-00775-00150776-00150975 out the best in people so _dsg9_R3v-8-00776-00150976-00151214 you know i would say feel free about _dsg9_R3v-8-00777-00151215-00151359 reaching out cold to people and just _dsg9_R3v-8-00778-00151360-00151423 saying hey _dsg9_R3v-8-00779-00151424-00151623 cup of coffee or quick call like pick up _dsg9_R3v-8-00780-00151624-00151807 the phone so people are definitely out _dsg9_R3v-8-00781-00151808-00151943 there for you one thing i wish i had _dsg9_R3v-8-00782-00151944-00152054 done differently _dsg9_R3v-8-00783-00152055-00152239 is that for example brand brought it up _dsg9_R3v-8-00784-00152240-00152423 is the career guidance center _dsg9_R3v-8-00785-00152424-00152623 i just kind of i did go it alone for the _dsg9_R3v-8-00786-00152624-00152854 most part so if i could go back in time _dsg9_R3v-8-00787-00152855-00152919 i would have _dsg9_R3v-8-00788-00152920-00153063 kind of reached out more leverage some _dsg9_R3v-8-00789-00153064-00153287 of the resources at the school _dsg9_R3v-8-00790-00153288-00153526 but uh yeah i wasn't entirely unprepared _dsg9_R3v-8-00791-00153527-00153607 for it and just _dsg9_R3v-8-00792-00153608-00153854 go into it with an open mind a lot of _dsg9_R3v-8-00793-00153855-00153959 companies i've been at _dsg9_R3v-8-00794-00153960-00154239 failed or startup companies and it's _dsg9_R3v-8-00795-00154240-00154375 just stepping stones as someone _dsg9_R3v-8-00796-00154376-00154526 mentioned like you'll you'll find your _dsg9_R3v-8-00797-00154527-00154566 way _dsg9_R3v-8-00798-00154567-00154935 so uh ethan same question _dsg9_R3v-8-00799-00154936-00155159 yeah i mean in my case graduation was _dsg9_R3v-8-00800-00155160-00155295 easy it was 2008 _dsg9_R3v-8-00801-00155296-00155543 so nothing had changed yet i had a job _dsg9_R3v-8-00802-00155544-00155599 lined up with _dsg9_R3v-8-00803-00155600-00155759 a great organization that i'd already _dsg9_R3v-8-00804-00155760-00155911 been interning for for the _dsg9_R3v-8-00805-00155912-00156126 the semester previous or two semesters _dsg9_R3v-8-00806-00156127-00156223 previous _dsg9_R3v-8-00807-00156224-00156559 um i was getting paid a good salary i _dsg9_R3v-8-00808-00156560-00156775 was i was on top of the world and then _dsg9_R3v-8-00809-00156776-00156975 it all ended and that's the way things _dsg9_R3v-8-00810-00156976-00157166 go they they're fun and you get what you _dsg9_R3v-8-00811-00157167-00157319 can out of them while they're happening _dsg9_R3v-8-00812-00157320-00157399 and then they end _dsg9_R3v-8-00813-00157400-00157678 and and you move on to the next thing _dsg9_R3v-8-00814-00157679-00157783 and _dsg9_R3v-8-00815-00157784-00158014 taking ownership over those moves making _dsg9_R3v-8-00816-00158015-00158175 decisions about what you want to do how _dsg9_R3v-8-00817-00158176-00158390 you want to be spending your time _dsg9_R3v-8-00818-00158391-00158631 i wound up working in a restaurant _dsg9_R3v-8-00819-00158632-00158863 kitchen i had no _dsg9_R3v-8-00820-00158864-00159039 professional experience in kitchens i _dsg9_R3v-8-00821-00159040-00159199 didn't go to culinary school but _dsg9_R3v-8-00822-00159200-00159390 i got laid off i needed a job i'd always _dsg9_R3v-8-00823-00159391-00159511 loved to cook and _dsg9_R3v-8-00824-00159512-00159751 just through some happy timing and _dsg9_R3v-8-00825-00159752-00159839 coincidence _dsg9_R3v-8-00826-00159840-00160054 uh i got an interview at a restaurant _dsg9_R3v-8-00827-00160055-00160239 that needed people desperately the day _dsg9_R3v-8-00828-00160240-00160366 that i walked in _dsg9_R3v-8-00829-00160367-00160687 um and then that then led me to i start _dsg9_R3v-8-00830-00160688-00160831 i had my own ice cream company for a _dsg9_R3v-8-00831-00160832-00161031 little while a political an activist ice _dsg9_R3v-8-00832-00161032-00161135 cream company _dsg9_R3v-8-00833-00161136-00161295 i went to grad school for international _dsg9_R3v-8-00834-00161296-00161431 development i lived in afghanistan for a _dsg9_R3v-8-00835-00161432-00161559 long time i worked for doctors out _dsg9_R3v-8-00836-00161560-00161671 borders in the middle east _dsg9_R3v-8-00837-00161672-00161919 all of these these pivots that i've made _dsg9_R3v-8-00838-00161920-00161990 were _dsg9_R3v-8-00839-00161991-00162151 were decisions that i was able to make _dsg9_R3v-8-00840-00162152-00162287 about things that i was interested in _dsg9_R3v-8-00841-00162288-00162431 places i wanted to go _dsg9_R3v-8-00842-00162432-00162623 jobs that i wanted to pursue that i did _dsg9_R3v-8-00843-00162624-00162783 for as long as they were _dsg9_R3v-8-00844-00162784-00163063 interesting and useful and then moved on _dsg9_R3v-8-00845-00163064-00163151 to the next thing _dsg9_R3v-8-00846-00163152-00163383 um yeah i guess the point i'm trying to _dsg9_R3v-8-00847-00163384-00163463 make is _dsg9_R3v-8-00848-00163464-00163695 is find find your way of taking _dsg9_R3v-8-00849-00163696-00163814 ownership over those _dsg9_R3v-8-00850-00163815-00163975 over those shifts over those steps even _dsg9_R3v-8-00851-00163976-00164151 when it looks like you're _dsg9_R3v-8-00852-00164152-00164319 you're powerless or even when it feels _dsg9_R3v-8-00853-00164320-00164471 like somebody else is making decisions _dsg9_R3v-8-00854-00164472-00164607 for you which often _dsg9_R3v-8-00855-00164608-00164759 being laid off or not being able to get _dsg9_R3v-8-00856-00164760-00164951 a job that's how it feels i mean like _dsg9_R3v-8-00857-00164952-00165135 andrew said i i got an email _dsg9_R3v-8-00858-00165136-00165383 seven o'clock in the morning saying _dsg9_R3v-8-00859-00165384-00165447 you're done _dsg9_R3v-8-00860-00165448-00165623 we're closing down the whole department _dsg9_R3v-8-00861-00165624-00165751 that's it um _dsg9_R3v-8-00862-00165752-00165919 and those moments it feels like you're _dsg9_R3v-8-00863-00165920-00166054 not in control of your career it feels _dsg9_R3v-8-00864-00166055-00166183 like you're not in control of your life _dsg9_R3v-8-00865-00166184-00166319 and that can be a really disconcerting _dsg9_R3v-8-00866-00166320-00166383 feeling _dsg9_R3v-8-00867-00166384-00166647 but to find ways to to take ownership _dsg9_R3v-8-00868-00166648-00166687 over _dsg9_R3v-8-00869-00166688-00166831 the next step and make decisions about _dsg9_R3v-8-00870-00166832-00166943 what you want to be doing is really _dsg9_R3v-8-00871-00166944-00167111 really important _dsg9_R3v-8-00872-00167112-00167414 uh andrew same question sure so _dsg9_R3v-8-00873-00167415-00167614 um so i guess ethan and i were in that _dsg9_R3v-8-00874-00167615-00167790 same class so i guess we again we were _dsg9_R3v-8-00875-00167791-00167902 riding really high _dsg9_R3v-8-00876-00167903-00168166 coming out of 2008 you know it's it was _dsg9_R3v-8-00877-00168167-00168302 a great summer for me particularly _dsg9_R3v-8-00878-00168303-00168447 deloitte like i _dsg9_R3v-8-00879-00168448-00168638 had two weeks of new hire training i got _dsg9_R3v-8-00880-00168639-00168838 a chance to know like 200 of my _dsg9_R3v-8-00881-00168839-00169023 you know colleagues for those that don't _dsg9_R3v-8-00882-00169024-00169175 know deloitte is a _dsg9_R3v-8-00883-00169176-00169414 you know massive global uh accounting _dsg9_R3v-8-00884-00169415-00169535 firm we do _dsg9_R3v-8-00885-00169536-00169671 you know accounting tax but then _dsg9_R3v-8-00886-00169672-00169847 essentially can prob problem solve _dsg9_R3v-8-00887-00169848-00169983 anything under the sun so i mean _dsg9_R3v-8-00888-00169984-00170254 we've got something like 310 000 people _dsg9_R3v-8-00889-00170255-00170326 globally _dsg9_R3v-8-00890-00170327-00170471 about 100 000 people in the united _dsg9_R3v-8-00891-00170472-00170583 states so it's just an enormous _dsg9_R3v-8-00892-00170584-00170790 organization so my starting class _dsg9_R3v-8-00893-00170791-00170966 was huge and i got a chance to really _dsg9_R3v-8-00894-00170967-00171126 meet a lot of great people from all over _dsg9_R3v-8-00895-00171127-00171231 the country _dsg9_R3v-8-00896-00171232-00171423 and it was it was amazing it was _dsg9_R3v-8-00897-00171424-00171566 probably like two of the best weeks of _dsg9_R3v-8-00898-00171567-00171671 my life i'm _dsg9_R3v-8-00899-00171672-00171831 having went to brook and you know _dsg9_R3v-8-00900-00171832-00171959 commuted to school this is what i _dsg9_R3v-8-00901-00171960-00172102 thought the first two weeks of college _dsg9_R3v-8-00902-00172103-00172271 was supposed to be like being in a dorm _dsg9_R3v-8-00903-00172272-00172447 being in a hotel hanging out with all my _dsg9_R3v-8-00904-00172448-00172583 colleagues we had no work _dsg9_R3v-8-00905-00172584-00172878 after work it was great but then quickly _dsg9_R3v-8-00906-00172879-00172959 that shifted _dsg9_R3v-8-00907-00172960-00173111 and what was interesting for me is that _dsg9_R3v-8-00908-00173112-00173366 i mean i worked in midtown manhattan _dsg9_R3v-8-00909-00173367-00173678 and we were two blocks away from _dsg9_R3v-8-00910-00173679-00173838 the old lemon brothers building now _dsg9_R3v-8-00911-00173839-00174071 barclays capital so literally going to _dsg9_R3v-8-00912-00174072-00174238 work every day and going to lunch every _dsg9_R3v-8-00913-00174239-00174302 day _dsg9_R3v-8-00914-00174303-00174559 you know we we started seeing like the _dsg9_R3v-8-00915-00174560-00174671 you know the news trucks _dsg9_R3v-8-00916-00174672-00174926 the cnbc trucks the msnbc trucks outside _dsg9_R3v-8-00917-00174927-00174975 of _dsg9_R3v-8-00918-00174976-00175247 their offices every day and it slowly _dsg9_R3v-8-00919-00175248-00175359 started creeping in _dsg9_R3v-8-00920-00175360-00175535 that there was something that was going _dsg9_R3v-8-00921-00175536-00175663 to change _dsg9_R3v-8-00922-00175664-00175887 and something that we didn't really have _dsg9_R3v-8-00923-00175888-00176151 any you know any idea what was coming _dsg9_R3v-8-00924-00176152-00176431 so i guess if there's one there's really _dsg9_R3v-8-00925-00176432-00176478 no _dsg9_R3v-8-00926-00176479-00176614 benefit anybody can say about the _dsg9_R3v-8-00927-00176615-00176766 current times but i guess there's one _dsg9_R3v-8-00928-00176767-00176878 benefit _dsg9_R3v-8-00929-00176879-00177095 um in thinking about the job market is _dsg9_R3v-8-00930-00177096-00177214 that they're _dsg9_R3v-8-00931-00177215-00177471 you know organizations and you know for _dsg9_R3v-8-00932-00177472-00177607 those that are on the line have a little _dsg9_R3v-8-00933-00177608-00177863 bit more flexibility or ability to plan _dsg9_R3v-8-00934-00177864-00178023 i think what a lot of folks have talked _dsg9_R3v-8-00935-00178024-00178199 about was the ability to make pivots and _dsg9_R3v-8-00936-00178200-00178278 to move _dsg9_R3v-8-00937-00178279-00178447 unfortunately when it happened last time _dsg9_R3v-8-00938-00178448-00178599 it was september 2008 _dsg9_R3v-8-00939-00178600-00178838 everybody is starting new jobs and _dsg9_R3v-8-00940-00178839-00179007 you're really not in a great place so _dsg9_R3v-8-00941-00179008-00179038 you _dsg9_R3v-8-00942-00179039-00179263 you've made all of your plans and you _dsg9_R3v-8-00943-00179264-00179463 know basically see it fall apart _dsg9_R3v-8-00944-00179464-00179695 i think again the only upside to the _dsg9_R3v-8-00945-00179696-00179871 timing of all this is that _dsg9_R3v-8-00946-00179872-00180078 hopefully you know through you know _dsg9_R3v-8-00947-00180079-00180190 through your networks and through other _dsg9_R3v-8-00948-00180191-00180375 things can have the ability to pivot and _dsg9_R3v-8-00949-00180376-00180487 make moves _dsg9_R3v-8-00950-00180488-00180678 so while i kind of rode that roller _dsg9_R3v-8-00951-00180679-00180831 coaster i think we're all riding that _dsg9_R3v-8-00952-00180832-00180943 roller coaster _dsg9_R3v-8-00953-00180944-00181143 i'd say at least the one against silver _dsg9_R3v-8-00954-00181144-00181263 lining here is that i think there's some _dsg9_R3v-8-00955-00181264-00181343 more time for _dsg9_R3v-8-00956-00181344-00181502 for you all as students to be able to _dsg9_R3v-8-00957-00181503-00181854 plan as you want to navigate what's next _dsg9_R3v-8-00958-00181855-00182214 uh renee same question um yeah so the _dsg9_R3v-8-00959-00182215-00182447 emotional aspects of it i would say that _dsg9_R3v-8-00960-00182448-00182726 when i graduated in 2009 _dsg9_R3v-8-00961-00182727-00183007 i was of course nervous and intimidated _dsg9_R3v-8-00962-00183008-00183151 by the whole prospect _dsg9_R3v-8-00963-00183152-00183463 of like having to _dsg9_R3v-8-00964-00183464-00183775 kind of redesign my life um _dsg9_R3v-8-00965-00183776-00184135 based on the circumstances um _dsg9_R3v-8-00966-00184136-00184375 but i was able to turn it around pretty _dsg9_R3v-8-00967-00184376-00184519 quickly emotionally and like _dsg9_R3v-8-00968-00184520-00184854 put things in perspective um i actually _dsg9_R3v-8-00969-00184855-00185078 in my personal life _dsg9_R3v-8-00970-00185079-00185375 my dad was actually battling stage four _dsg9_R3v-8-00971-00185376-00185487 colon cancer _dsg9_R3v-8-00972-00185488-00185799 at the same time that i graduated _dsg9_R3v-8-00973-00185800-00186102 um and i feel like seeing him not to _dsg9_R3v-8-00974-00186103-00186166 sound too _dsg9_R3v-8-00975-00186167-00186366 overly spiritual if that's not your _dsg9_R3v-8-00976-00186367-00186519 thing but like _dsg9_R3v-8-00977-00186520-00186847 seeing him go through that experience _dsg9_R3v-8-00978-00186848-00187135 and seeing how he just like dealt with _dsg9_R3v-8-00979-00187136-00187311 things day after day and did not _dsg9_R3v-8-00980-00187312-00187438 complain _dsg9_R3v-8-00981-00187439-00187766 it was very humbling for me um _dsg9_R3v-8-00982-00187767-00188087 to see that life kind of hand you things _dsg9_R3v-8-00983-00188088-00188311 sometimes that are not fair _dsg9_R3v-8-00984-00188312-00188623 but um you have to learn how to deal _dsg9_R3v-8-00985-00188624-00188678 with them _dsg9_R3v-8-00986-00188679-00188878 and learn how to deal with them um the _dsg9_R3v-8-00987-00188879-00189083 most positive way _dsg9_R3v-8-00988-00189084-00189454 possible um so it's not really helpful _dsg9_R3v-8-00989-00189455-00189575 to get mired down _dsg9_R3v-8-00990-00189576-00189895 in those emotions um _dsg9_R3v-8-00991-00189896-00190102 there are more important things in life _dsg9_R3v-8-00992-00190103-00190366 than getting exactly what you want _dsg9_R3v-8-00993-00190367-00190631 exactly the way that you want it _dsg9_R3v-8-00994-00190632-00190838 and that's not to minimize or all of _dsg9_R3v-8-00995-00190839-00191047 your goals and your dreams and _dsg9_R3v-8-00996-00191048-00191375 um everything that you worked hard for _dsg9_R3v-8-00997-00191376-00191719 but that's just to say that um in the _dsg9_R3v-8-00998-00191720-00191766 bigger _dsg9_R3v-8-00999-00191767-00192183 picture there are more important things _dsg9_R3v-8-01000-00192184-00192271 than _dsg9_R3v-8-01001-00192272-00192471 having life look exactly the way that _dsg9_R3v-8-01002-00192472-00192614 you planned it _dsg9_R3v-8-01003-00192615-00192975 so um being able to be honest about what _dsg9_R3v-8-01004-00192976-00193166 your feelings are _dsg9_R3v-8-01005-00193167-00193431 but then putting things in into _dsg9_R3v-8-01006-00193432-00193638 perspective and especially now i think _dsg9_R3v-8-01007-00193639-00193759 that's a good lesson _dsg9_R3v-8-01008-00193760-00194095 um because it is a health crisis _dsg9_R3v-8-01009-00194096-00194423 so having your health having your _dsg9_R3v-8-01010-00194424-00194647 family first is like the most important _dsg9_R3v-8-01011-00194648-00194726 thing _dsg9_R3v-8-01012-00194727-00194895 and then everything else can be _dsg9_R3v-8-01013-00194896-00195126 navigated you just have to figure out _dsg9_R3v-8-01014-00195127-00195214 how _dsg9_R3v-8-01015-00195215-00195511 so that nothing is impossible and _dsg9_R3v-8-01016-00195512-00195695 nothing is forever as long as you have _dsg9_R3v-8-01017-00195696-00195838 your health _dsg9_R3v-8-01018-00195839-00196102 um and people around you who care about _dsg9_R3v-8-01019-00196103-00196271 you and support you _dsg9_R3v-8-01020-00196272-00196535 all right and ethan same question oh _dsg9_R3v-8-01021-00196536-00196678 brian sorry about that _dsg9_R3v-8-01022-00196679-00197047 same question um _dsg9_R3v-8-01023-00197048-00197511 yeah i really i really agree um _dsg9_R3v-8-01024-00197512-00197783 you know i'll tell you what like in in _dsg9_R3v-8-01025-00197784-00197950 that vein _dsg9_R3v-8-01026-00197951-00198271 um the worst year of my life by far _dsg9_R3v-8-01027-00198272-00198526 is also the year i made the most money i _dsg9_R3v-8-01028-00198527-00198623 was working at _dsg9_R3v-8-01029-00198624-00198919 a btg packed wall which is the largest _dsg9_R3v-8-01030-00198920-00199126 investment bank in latin america _dsg9_R3v-8-01031-00199127-00199295 and i was a commodities trader and i had _dsg9_R3v-8-01032-00199296-00199502 helped start the physical _dsg9_R3v-8-01033-00199503-00199831 base metals desk and um i was doing _dsg9_R3v-8-01034-00199832-00200095 really really well as far as you know my _dsg9_R3v-8-01035-00200096-00200247 career and business went _dsg9_R3v-8-01036-00200248-00200495 um but i was i was on the road like 70 _dsg9_R3v-8-01037-00200496-00200599 of the time _dsg9_R3v-8-01038-00200600-00200831 um i had ruined a really important _dsg9_R3v-8-01039-00200832-00200983 relationship to me _dsg9_R3v-8-01040-00200984-00201119 i wasn't spending any time with my _dsg9_R3v-8-01041-00201120-00201311 family like it was it was an _dsg9_R3v-8-01042-00201312-00201487 absolute catastrophe and that's what i _dsg9_R3v-8-01043-00201488-00201695 thought i wanted was to be like _dsg9_R3v-8-01044-00201696-00201950 one of the guys like my boss referred to _dsg9_R3v-8-01045-00201951-00202159 me as one of our rising stars _dsg9_R3v-8-01046-00202160-00202326 you know what i mean in a meeting with _dsg9_R3v-8-01047-00202327-00202526 some of the partners at btg _dsg9_R3v-8-01048-00202527-00202790 and but i actually inside my my life was _dsg9_R3v-8-01049-00202791-00202887 you know _dsg9_R3v-8-01050-00202888-00203054 falling apart so you don't really know _dsg9_R3v-8-01051-00203055-00203175 what you want i thought that's what i _dsg9_R3v-8-01052-00203176-00203335 wanted and i was miserable _dsg9_R3v-8-01053-00203336-00203638 so you know i think that's that's first _dsg9_R3v-8-01054-00203639-00203695 of all _dsg9_R3v-8-01055-00203696-00204014 and um you know for me personally _dsg9_R3v-8-01056-00204015-00204223 you know how i was in when i was _dsg9_R3v-8-01057-00204224-00204359 graduating _dsg9_R3v-8-01058-00204360-00204535 i think the biggest driver for me back _dsg9_R3v-8-01059-00204536-00204663 then and i only realized this in _dsg9_R3v-8-01060-00204664-00204750 retrospect _dsg9_R3v-8-01061-00204751-00205071 was like prestige maybe _dsg9_R3v-8-01062-00205071-00205303 like i was so concerned with what other _dsg9_R3v-8-01063-00205304-00205438 people would think _dsg9_R3v-8-01064-00205439-00205694 of the type of job that i would get or _dsg9_R3v-8-01065-00205696-00205894 or something like that you know _dsg9_R3v-8-01066-00205896-00206103 and um but unfortunately when i look _dsg9_R3v-8-01067-00206104-00206271 back on my life is especially around _dsg9_R3v-8-01068-00206271-00206342 that ages _dsg9_R3v-8-01069-00206344-00206527 that colored all my decisions you know _dsg9_R3v-8-01070-00206528-00206719 that colored um _dsg9_R3v-8-01071-00206719-00206942 you know the jobs i took and the things _dsg9_R3v-8-01072-00206944-00207158 i said and the people i hung out with _dsg9_R3v-8-01073-00207159-00207471 and um you know _dsg9_R3v-8-01074-00207471-00207814 that's just that is not a recipe for _dsg9_R3v-8-01075-00207815-00208094 happiness and peace of mind and um and _dsg9_R3v-8-01076-00208096-00208303 it's not a recipe for long-term success _dsg9_R3v-8-01077-00208304-00208382 either _dsg9_R3v-8-01078-00208383-00208519 and actually one of the things that one _dsg9_R3v-8-01079-00208519-00208646 of the benefits of teaching one of the _dsg9_R3v-8-01080-00208648-00208823 things i love that i've learned _dsg9_R3v-8-01081-00208823-00209151 is that every day i have 131 _dsg9_R3v-8-01082-00209152-00209414 people who couldn't be more convinced _dsg9_R3v-8-01083-00209415-00209566 that i am a loser _dsg9_R3v-8-01084-00209567-00209791 and like i'm uncool and they're they're _dsg9_R3v-8-01085-00209792-00209879 convinced _dsg9_R3v-8-01086-00209880-00210039 and nothing i can do will ever change _dsg9_R3v-8-01087-00210040-00210239 their mind on that and so i'm reminded _dsg9_R3v-8-01088-00210240-00210455 on a daily basis that i'm uncool and _dsg9_R3v-8-01089-00210456-00210663 i can tell you what it's never felt so _dsg9_R3v-8-01090-00210664-00210894 good to be uncool and unimportant _dsg9_R3v-8-01091-00210896-00211206 it's just absolutely terrific so it's my _dsg9_R3v-8-01092-00211207-00211351 experience _dsg9_R3v-8-01093-00211352-00211487 all right now i'm going to move on to _dsg9_R3v-8-01094-00211488-00211663 the individual questions now _dsg9_R3v-8-01095-00211664-00211903 so eamon my question for you is how did _dsg9_R3v-8-01096-00211904-00212103 you go about landing your job at amazon _dsg9_R3v-8-01097-00212104-00212239 and what do you like most about your _dsg9_R3v-8-01098-00212240-00212423 work _dsg9_R3v-8-01099-00212423-00212687 yeah thanks um so i think it's like _dsg9_R3v-8-01100-00212688-00212831 eight years ago _dsg9_R3v-8-01101-00212832-00213046 i actually made i i was actually living _dsg9_R3v-8-01102-00213048-00213167 abroad um _dsg9_R3v-8-01103-00213167-00213334 i had done a one-way trip and took a _dsg9_R3v-8-01104-00213335-00213471 year off in between _dsg9_R3v-8-01105-00213471-00213806 startup companies taught english and _dsg9_R3v-8-01106-00213807-00214031 uh eventually i was like it came down to _dsg9_R3v-8-01107-00214032-00214182 making another decision i think _dsg9_R3v-8-01108-00214183-00214358 ethan is saying you know there's times _dsg9_R3v-8-01109-00214359-00214623 in your life where you get to sit back _dsg9_R3v-8-01110-00214623-00214791 and kind of figure out where you want to _dsg9_R3v-8-01111-00214792-00214967 go next _dsg9_R3v-8-01112-00214967-00215191 um so i actually made a conscious _dsg9_R3v-8-01113-00215192-00215279 decision _dsg9_R3v-8-01114-00215280-00215582 to move to seattle i had an opportunity _dsg9_R3v-8-01115-00215583-00215751 through my network to come and work at a _dsg9_R3v-8-01116-00215752-00215815 startup _dsg9_R3v-8-01117-00215816-00216167 very risky um kind of early stage _dsg9_R3v-8-01118-00216167-00216358 company there was like 10 of us _dsg9_R3v-8-01119-00216359-00216639 but what it did i kind of got into the _dsg9_R3v-8-01120-00216640-00216782 reason i made the choice was because i _dsg9_R3v-8-01121-00216783-00216879 had done some work _dsg9_R3v-8-01122-00216880-00217119 in and around like cloud and that area _dsg9_R3v-8-01123-00217119-00217263 of technology _dsg9_R3v-8-01124-00217264-00217582 after i graduated so i decided to move _dsg9_R3v-8-01125-00217583-00217671 to seattle because _dsg9_R3v-8-01126-00217671-00218006 amazon is kind of the you know _dsg9_R3v-8-01127-00218007-00218351 the uh the headquarters for cloud and so _dsg9_R3v-8-01128-00218352-00218551 i moved out here about eight years ago _dsg9_R3v-8-01129-00218552-00218751 and i was just kind of slowly orbiting _dsg9_R3v-8-01130-00218752-00218927 amazon during this time _dsg9_R3v-8-01131-00218928-00219134 where i was working at tech companies _dsg9_R3v-8-01132-00219135-00219310 that were in the space _dsg9_R3v-8-01133-00219311-00219551 and then you know i spent four years _dsg9_R3v-8-01134-00219552-00219687 actually at a company where i was _dsg9_R3v-8-01135-00219688-00219775 managing _dsg9_R3v-8-01136-00219776-00220039 the aws relationship the amazon _dsg9_R3v-8-01137-00220040-00220231 relationship at this other company _dsg9_R3v-8-01138-00220232-00220558 so i was just kind of in orbit and um _dsg9_R3v-8-01139-00220559-00220742 i always knew i kind of wanted i did _dsg9_R3v-8-01140-00220744-00220910 want to work at amazon there's certain _dsg9_R3v-8-01141-00220911-00221031 things around their culture _dsg9_R3v-8-01142-00221032-00221191 and the challenges that they're solving _dsg9_R3v-8-01143-00221192-00221519 that i really liked um _dsg9_R3v-8-01144-00221519-00221710 so i would say you know what i what i _dsg9_R3v-8-01145-00221711-00221863 did i started to kind of _dsg9_R3v-8-01146-00221864-00222063 get you know build my network of folks _dsg9_R3v-8-01147-00222064-00222182 that worked there _dsg9_R3v-8-01148-00222183-00222431 um you know i i really went after those _dsg9_R3v-8-01149-00222432-00222606 opportunities where i could work with _dsg9_R3v-8-01150-00222607-00222767 that company knowing that i would want _dsg9_R3v-8-01151-00222767-00222951 to wind up there _dsg9_R3v-8-01152-00222952-00223287 and um i think that was kind of the _dsg9_R3v-8-01153-00223288-00223598 yeah how i landed that job and and _dsg9_R3v-8-01154-00223600-00223863 the key thing is that you know what i _dsg9_R3v-8-01155-00223864-00223958 wish i would have done _dsg9_R3v-8-01156-00223959-00224255 earlier in my career is i was never _dsg9_R3v-8-01157-00224256-00224375 great at _dsg9_R3v-8-01158-00224376-00224567 like my five-year plan took eight years _dsg9_R3v-8-01159-00224567-00224734 or nine years you know i was never great _dsg9_R3v-8-01160-00224735-00224806 at building _dsg9_R3v-8-01161-00224807-00224942 what's your three-year plan where do you _dsg9_R3v-8-01162-00224944-00225151 see yourself in five but what i've _dsg9_R3v-8-01163-00225152-00225334 started to do nowadays is i will _dsg9_R3v-8-01164-00225335-00225439 actively _dsg9_R3v-8-01165-00225440-00225719 maybe once a year or if i change roles _dsg9_R3v-8-01166-00225719-00225927 i'll look at my resume and i'll rewrite _dsg9_R3v-8-01167-00225928-00225991 it _dsg9_R3v-8-01168-00225992-00226239 but what i do is i i think of what i _dsg9_R3v-8-01169-00226240-00226479 want to put on my resume for next year _dsg9_R3v-8-01170-00226480-00226646 like i'll just pick a bullet point and _dsg9_R3v-8-01171-00226648-00226879 i'll say i want this on my resume _dsg9_R3v-8-01172-00226880-00227046 next year and then i'll kind of work _dsg9_R3v-8-01173-00227048-00227182 towards that so _dsg9_R3v-8-01174-00227183-00227303 it's just kind of something i wish i _dsg9_R3v-8-01175-00227304-00227463 would have done earlier is be a little _dsg9_R3v-8-01176-00227464-00227542 bit more _dsg9_R3v-8-01177-00227544-00227815 decisive around what i want and the the _dsg9_R3v-8-01178-00227816-00228071 career moves i want to make _dsg9_R3v-8-01179-00228071-00228351 because it really is possible if you if _dsg9_R3v-8-01180-00228352-00228487 you have a strategy _dsg9_R3v-8-01181-00228488-00228758 and a plan on how to do it you can _dsg9_R3v-8-01182-00228759-00228942 really go and execute it right i mean _dsg9_R3v-8-01183-00228944-00229167 sometimes it feels like _dsg9_R3v-8-01184-00229167-00229303 you know there's going to be a lot of _dsg9_R3v-8-01185-00229304-00229494 different kind of ways to get there but _dsg9_R3v-8-01186-00229496-00229751 if you want it you can go after it so um _dsg9_R3v-8-01187-00229752-00229798 you just have _dsg9_R3v-8-01188-00229800-00230142 to build a strategy around it um ethan _dsg9_R3v-8-01189-00230144-00230263 my question for you _dsg9_R3v-8-01190-00230264-00230406 is how have you been able to navigate _dsg9_R3v-8-01191-00230407-00230591 all your various career transitions _dsg9_R3v-8-01192-00230592-00230767 and find a career that helps you combine _dsg9_R3v-8-01193-00230767-00230942 so many different interests for example _dsg9_R3v-8-01194-00230944-00231055 entrepreneurship _dsg9_R3v-8-01195-00231056-00231391 and activism yeah i think _dsg9_R3v-8-01196-00231392-00231694 um i think it's easy now _dsg9_R3v-8-01197-00231696-00231910 to look back on the last 12 years and a _dsg9_R3v-8-01198-00231911-00232063 whole series of career transitions as _dsg9_R3v-8-01199-00232064-00232182 having some _dsg9_R3v-8-01200-00232183-00232487 overarching theme or or like it's it's _dsg9_R3v-8-01201-00232488-00232606 easy to pretend that i _dsg9_R3v-8-01202-00232607-00232758 knew what i was doing at any point in _dsg9_R3v-8-01203-00232759-00233006 this process and i promise you i had no _dsg9_R3v-8-01204-00233007-00233167 idea what i was doing and the fact that _dsg9_R3v-8-01205-00233167-00233246 i have _dsg9_R3v-8-01206-00233248-00233446 found something that i love that pays me _dsg9_R3v-8-01207-00233448-00233582 a decent salary that gives me the _dsg9_R3v-8-01208-00233583-00233727 flexibility i want that _dsg9_R3v-8-01209-00233728-00233942 lets me travel the world and meet _dsg9_R3v-8-01210-00233944-00234087 farmers growing the best _dsg9_R3v-8-01211-00234088-00234287 cinnamon i've ever tasted the fact that _dsg9_R3v-8-01212-00234288-00234406 i have wound up here _dsg9_R3v-8-01213-00234407-00234758 is um is um feels like a miracle most of _dsg9_R3v-8-01214-00234759-00234863 the time _dsg9_R3v-8-01215-00234864-00235158 um the every every career transition i _dsg9_R3v-8-01216-00235159-00235358 made whether it was a choice to leave a _dsg9_R3v-8-01217-00235359-00235551 company or i was laid off or fired or _dsg9_R3v-8-01218-00235552-00235758 the company closed or whatever it was _dsg9_R3v-8-01219-00235759-00235910 i don't think i was ever fired for _dsg9_R3v-8-01220-00235911-00236103 anything i did i might have been _dsg9_R3v-8-01221-00236104-00236358 anyway whatever and the those decisions _dsg9_R3v-8-01222-00236359-00236558 whether i made them myself or not _dsg9_R3v-8-01223-00236559-00236694 didn't feel like they were part of a _dsg9_R3v-8-01224-00236696-00236903 bigger picture until i _dsg9_R3v-8-01225-00236904-00237206 got to a place where i i realized _dsg9_R3v-8-01226-00237207-00237398 what all of those individual experiences _dsg9_R3v-8-01227-00237400-00237615 had contributed to what i do now so _dsg9_R3v-8-01228-00237616-00237934 um you know working in a restaurant _dsg9_R3v-8-01229-00237935-00238094 i learned about food i learned about _dsg9_R3v-8-01230-00238096-00238279 cooking i learned about ingredients _dsg9_R3v-8-01231-00238280-00238455 working for doctors without borders i _dsg9_R3v-8-01232-00238456-00238639 was doing logistics for a maternity _dsg9_R3v-8-01233-00238640-00238751 hospital _dsg9_R3v-8-01234-00238752-00238919 we were running on the jordanian-syrian _dsg9_R3v-8-01235-00238919-00239127 border i learned a lot about logistics i _dsg9_R3v-8-01236-00239128-00239239 learned how to move things around i _dsg9_R3v-8-01237-00239240-00239542 learned how to manage a warehouse _dsg9_R3v-8-01238-00239544-00239791 so now i have a company where we work _dsg9_R3v-8-01239-00239792-00239887 with farmers _dsg9_R3v-8-01240-00239888-00240031 uh a skill that i learned while i was _dsg9_R3v-8-01241-00240032-00240215 working in afghanistan for a big ngo we _dsg9_R3v-8-01242-00240216-00240367 manage logistics of moving shipments _dsg9_R3v-8-01243-00240367-00240487 around the world a skill that i learned _dsg9_R3v-8-01244-00240488-00240598 at doctors out borders _dsg9_R3v-8-01245-00240600-00240758 i do a lot of work with chefs and _dsg9_R3v-8-01246-00240759-00240942 restaurants based on a set of skills _dsg9_R3v-8-01247-00240944-00241030 that i learned when i _dsg9_R3v-8-01248-00241031-00241151 was working in restaurant kitchens _dsg9_R3v-8-01249-00241152-00241367 myself but at no point in that process _dsg9_R3v-8-01250-00241367-00241510 would i have been able to tell you this _dsg9_R3v-8-01251-00241511-00241646 is what i was working towards _dsg9_R3v-8-01252-00241648-00241910 it didn't come together until until it _dsg9_R3v-8-01253-00241911-00242167 all came together _dsg9_R3v-8-01254-00242167-00242406 um andrew my question for you is how did _dsg9_R3v-8-01255-00242407-00242551 you go about landing your first role at _dsg9_R3v-8-01256-00242552-00242719 deloitte after college and what are your _dsg9_R3v-8-01257-00242719-00242839 tips for continuing to grow _dsg9_R3v-8-01258-00242840-00243006 professionally after being at the same _dsg9_R3v-8-01259-00243007-00243230 company for over a decade _dsg9_R3v-8-01260-00243231-00243455 sure so i kind of alluded to kind of how _dsg9_R3v-8-01261-00243456-00243615 i landed my first relatively _dsg9_R3v-8-01262-00243616-00243919 internship kind of i guess of the group _dsg9_R3v-8-01263-00243919-00244030 here i think i've had the most _dsg9_R3v-8-01264-00244031-00244271 linear path um to kind of where i am _dsg9_R3v-8-01265-00244271-00244358 today _dsg9_R3v-8-01266-00244359-00244534 but what's interesting about that though _dsg9_R3v-8-01267-00244535-00244663 is that um _dsg9_R3v-8-01268-00244664-00244782 what's been great about being at _dsg9_R3v-8-01269-00244783-00244991 deloitte is that it's _dsg9_R3v-8-01270-00244992-00245230 the organization helped form a lot of my _dsg9_R3v-8-01271-00245231-00245398 professional growth just because _dsg9_R3v-8-01272-00245400-00245639 the organization uh like a lot of your _dsg9_R3v-8-01273-00245640-00245815 professional services companies your big _dsg9_R3v-8-01274-00245816-00245934 four accounting firms they're _dsg9_R3v-8-01275-00245935-00246094 kind of a pay for performance kind of _dsg9_R3v-8-01276-00246096-00246279 organization in order to kind of _dsg9_R3v-8-01277-00246280-00246503 make it through and up you kind of have _dsg9_R3v-8-01278-00246504-00246606 to learn how to _dsg9_R3v-8-01279-00246607-00246806 do well what you're doing to take the _dsg9_R3v-8-01280-00246807-00246910 next job _dsg9_R3v-8-01281-00246911-00247191 so for example when you start and a lot _dsg9_R3v-8-01282-00247192-00247239 of _dsg9_R3v-8-01283-00247240-00247391 at least for me this is how it was when _dsg9_R3v-8-01284-00247392-00247630 i started i had to be very technical _dsg9_R3v-8-01285-00247631-00247855 and a lot of the projects i worked on _dsg9_R3v-8-01286-00247856-00248046 required me to be heavy analytics _dsg9_R3v-8-01287-00248048-00248206 so kind of like what ethan was just _dsg9_R3v-8-01288-00248207-00248351 mentioning i feel like he's _dsg9_R3v-8-01289-00248352-00248542 i should have come after or we should _dsg9_R3v-8-01290-00248544-00248727 have spaced this out a little bit _dsg9_R3v-8-01291-00248728-00248951 um you know every new job or every new _dsg9_R3v-8-01292-00248952-00249103 role i took required me to learn a new _dsg9_R3v-8-01293-00249104-00250687 set of skills so i started having to be _dsg9_R3v-8-01294-00250688-00250887 oh no andrew i think you're having uh _dsg9_R3v-8-01295-00250888-00251223 some trouble with your connection _dsg9_R3v-8-01296-00251223-00251446 yeah so let's move on to the next person _dsg9_R3v-8-01297-00251448-00251606 samantha because i think andrew _dsg9_R3v-8-01298-00251607-00251942 might have lost him okay um so renee my _dsg9_R3v-8-01299-00251944-00252015 question for you _dsg9_R3v-8-01300-00252016-00252175 is looking back do you think getting _dsg9_R3v-8-01301-00252176-00252334 your masters in special education was _dsg9_R3v-8-01302-00252335-00252503 the right choice and can you elaborate _dsg9_R3v-8-01303-00252504-00252679 on how the education industry was _dsg9_R3v-8-01304-00252680-00252758 impacted _dsg9_R3v-8-01305-00252759-00252903 and the hiring freeze in general _dsg9_R3v-8-01306-00252904-00253110 education at the time _dsg9_R3v-8-01307-00253111-00253382 so um i definitely for me personally _dsg9_R3v-8-01308-00253383-00253534 think special ed was the _dsg9_R3v-8-01309-00253535-00253951 right move for me um i _dsg9_R3v-8-01310-00253952-00254103 was a substitute teacher in special _dsg9_R3v-8-01311-00254104-00254279 education for a year _dsg9_R3v-8-01312-00254280-00254527 and i got hired at a school that i had _dsg9_R3v-8-01313-00254528-00254703 substitute taught at _dsg9_R3v-8-01314-00254704-00254958 for most of my experience it's a _dsg9_R3v-8-01315-00254959-00255158 district 75 high school _dsg9_R3v-8-01316-00255159-00255463 in brooklyn and for those of you who are _dsg9_R3v-8-01317-00255464-00255687 not familiar district 75 _dsg9_R3v-8-01318-00255688-00256023 is an entirely special needs district _dsg9_R3v-8-01319-00256023-00256175 throughout the five boroughs of new york _dsg9_R3v-8-01320-00256176-00256342 city _dsg9_R3v-8-01321-00256344-00256655 i personally teach students with autism _dsg9_R3v-8-01322-00256656-00256927 intellectual disabilities and multiple _dsg9_R3v-8-01323-00256928-00257079 disabilities _dsg9_R3v-8-01324-00257080-00257358 um i found it to be a very humbling _dsg9_R3v-8-01325-00257359-00257494 experience _dsg9_R3v-8-01326-00257496-00257942 um and it's also taught me a lot about _dsg9_R3v-8-01327-00257944-00258246 being happy with progress _dsg9_R3v-8-01328-00258248-00258551 as opposed to perfection um it has also _dsg9_R3v-8-01329-00258552-00258734 like made me an advocate _dsg9_R3v-8-01330-00258735-00259071 for people with special needs um for _dsg9_R3v-8-01331-00259071-00259398 respect for people with um _dsg9_R3v-8-01332-00259400-00259855 differing abilities um i _dsg9_R3v-8-01333-00259856-00260094 was uh somewhat of a natural in the _dsg9_R3v-8-01334-00260096-00260158 classroom _dsg9_R3v-8-01335-00260159-00260527 just because i am um someone who _dsg9_R3v-8-01336-00260528-00260903 always wants to excel um so _dsg9_R3v-8-01337-00260904-00261230 since in my nine years i've become a _dsg9_R3v-8-01338-00261231-00261334 teacher leader _dsg9_R3v-8-01339-00261335-00261606 i was a model teacher now i'm a peer _dsg9_R3v-8-01340-00261607-00261791 collaborative teacher so i also give _dsg9_R3v-8-01341-00261792-00261942 professional developments to other _dsg9_R3v-8-01342-00261944-00262191 teachers within my building _dsg9_R3v-8-01343-00262192-00262406 i facilitate uh get ready to learn yoga _dsg9_R3v-8-01344-00262407-00262647 program in my building _dsg9_R3v-8-01345-00262648-00262855 i've also gotten my advanced certificate _dsg9_R3v-8-01346-00262856-00263023 in school building leadership and school _dsg9_R3v-8-01347-00263024-00263215 district leadership which opens me up to _dsg9_R3v-8-01348-00263216-00263399 the possibility of taking on an _dsg9_R3v-8-01349-00263400-00263710 assistant principalship or principalship _dsg9_R3v-8-01350-00263711-00264079 or some leadership role at the district _dsg9_R3v-8-01351-00264080-00264199 level _dsg9_R3v-8-01352-00264200-00264430 um so i don't know necessarily that i _dsg9_R3v-8-01353-00264431-00264599 want to do that but my options are open _dsg9_R3v-8-01354-00264600-00264758 to me and if i did move up i would _dsg9_R3v-8-01355-00264759-00264806 definitely _dsg9_R3v-8-01356-00264807-00265015 want to move up within special education _dsg9_R3v-8-01357-00265016-00265263 and continue to be an advocate for _dsg9_R3v-8-01358-00265264-00265447 our students who in my opinion need the _dsg9_R3v-8-01359-00265448-00265575 most _dsg9_R3v-8-01360-00265576-00265967 um i honestly cannot speak towards like _dsg9_R3v-8-01361-00265968-00266279 what happened with general ed like after _dsg9_R3v-8-01362-00266280-00266375 i didn't go _dsg9_R3v-8-01363-00266376-00266591 that route i do know friends that it _dsg9_R3v-8-01364-00266592-00266791 took them many many years to secure a _dsg9_R3v-8-01365-00266792-00266847 position _dsg9_R3v-8-01366-00266848-00267079 because they did not want to specialize _dsg9_R3v-8-01367-00267080-00267255 um but i don't know that that _dsg9_R3v-8-01368-00267256-00267482 excuse me that that was everyone's _dsg9_R3v-8-01369-00267483-00267623 experience um _dsg9_R3v-8-01370-00267624-00267791 so i can't speak to that really because _dsg9_R3v-8-01371-00267792-00267951 i stopped pursuing that _dsg9_R3v-8-01372-00267952-00268263 once i um found that my _dsg9_R3v-8-01373-00268264-00268575 calling really was special ed um so _dsg9_R3v-8-01374-00268576-00269039 i could not be any happier and just um _dsg9_R3v-8-01375-00269040-00269239 it's you agree you make great personal _dsg9_R3v-8-01376-00269240-00269430 connections in special education like _dsg9_R3v-8-01377-00269431-00269575 for example we've been doing remote _dsg9_R3v-8-01378-00269576-00269775 learning for seven weeks _dsg9_R3v-8-01379-00269776-00270047 and today one of my students was able to _dsg9_R3v-8-01380-00270048-00270271 get on with us for the first time _dsg9_R3v-8-01381-00270272-00270567 and the smile on his face just seeing _dsg9_R3v-8-01382-00270568-00270647 like _dsg9_R3v-8-01383-00270648-00270879 these people who are like family to him _dsg9_R3v-8-01384-00270880-00271079 who he became so accustomed to being _dsg9_R3v-8-01385-00271080-00271255 with every day and then to be _dsg9_R3v-8-01386-00271256-00271447 away from us for seven weeks there's _dsg9_R3v-8-01387-00271448-00271615 nothing like that there's nothing like _dsg9_R3v-8-01388-00271616-00271830 the bonds that you make with _dsg9_R3v-8-01389-00271831-00272143 those kids so i couldn't be happier with _dsg9_R3v-8-01390-00272144-00272334 anything that i've done _dsg9_R3v-8-01391-00272335-00272558 thank you um andrew i think you're back _dsg9_R3v-8-01392-00272559-00272727 now your connection is a little bit cut _dsg9_R3v-8-01393-00272728-00272895 off before but you can continue where _dsg9_R3v-8-01394-00272896-00273006 you left off _dsg9_R3v-8-01395-00273007-00273230 no worries um yeah i was wondering why _dsg9_R3v-8-01396-00273231-00273391 nobody was moving there for a while _dsg9_R3v-8-01397-00273392-00273679 um but uh i think the big thing i was _dsg9_R3v-8-01398-00273680-00273830 just ultimately going to get at is that _dsg9_R3v-8-01399-00273831-00274006 as i progressed through my daily career _dsg9_R3v-8-01400-00274007-00274215 in order to get to the next level _dsg9_R3v-8-01401-00274216-00274534 basically a traditional career at a _dsg9_R3v-8-01402-00274535-00274679 public accounting firm is you start as a _dsg9_R3v-8-01403-00274680-00274775 consultant _dsg9_R3v-8-01404-00274776-00274967 get promoted to the senior consultant _dsg9_R3v-8-01405-00274968-00275182 manager senior manager maybe a partner _dsg9_R3v-8-01406-00275183-00275430 that's kind of how the road goes but in _dsg9_R3v-8-01407-00275431-00275582 order to get to each of those levels you _dsg9_R3v-8-01408-00275583-00275734 kind of have to master what you _dsg9_R3v-8-01409-00275735-00276015 needed to do at each level have a you _dsg9_R3v-8-01410-00276016-00276103 know then train _dsg9_R3v-8-01411-00276104-00276255 others to do it because that's kind of _dsg9_R3v-8-01412-00276256-00276423 how the organization works _dsg9_R3v-8-01413-00276424-00276582 so that you have a replacement for your _dsg9_R3v-8-01414-00276583-00276727 current job and then so you can take the _dsg9_R3v-8-01415-00276728-00276815 next job _dsg9_R3v-8-01416-00276816-00276991 and so as i went through my careers kind _dsg9_R3v-8-01417-00276992-00277167 of looking as i wanted to figure out _dsg9_R3v-8-01418-00277168-00277303 what was next _dsg9_R3v-8-01419-00277304-00277447 i kind of looked to the people that were _dsg9_R3v-8-01420-00277448-00278543 more senior to me _dsg9_R3v-8-01421-00278544-00278695 and i would say that to see how they _dsg9_R3v-8-01422-00278696-00278871 were successful at their level _dsg9_R3v-8-01423-00278872-00279191 all right thank you and lastly for brian _dsg9_R3v-8-01424-00279192-00279334 my question for you is have you been _dsg9_R3v-8-01425-00279335-00279479 able to navigate the various career _dsg9_R3v-8-01426-00279480-00279606 transitions that have allowed you to _dsg9_R3v-8-01427-00279607-00279806 travel around the world for work _dsg9_R3v-8-01428-00279807-00279927 and what have you learned from these _dsg9_R3v-8-01429-00279928-00280134 experiences and after listening to you _dsg9_R3v-8-01430-00280135-00280215 describe _dsg9_R3v-8-01431-00280216-00280391 your current experiences i'm also _dsg9_R3v-8-01432-00280392-00280551 wondering how you found your passion for _dsg9_R3v-8-01433-00280552-00280830 teaching _dsg9_R3v-8-01434-00280831-00281255 okay so what's allowed me to do the _dsg9_R3v-8-01435-00281256-00281471 transitions _dsg9_R3v-8-01436-00281472-00281710 besides has kind of has been alluded to _dsg9_R3v-8-01437-00281711-00281927 dumb luck and no other options _dsg9_R3v-8-01438-00281928-00282191 um i would say i would say the number _dsg9_R3v-8-01439-00282192-00282375 one thing that allows you to to make _dsg9_R3v-8-01440-00282376-00282463 transitions and _dsg9_R3v-8-01441-00282464-00282606 and take risks it's already been said _dsg9_R3v-8-01442-00282607-00282847 but it can't be overemphasized it's just _dsg9_R3v-8-01443-00282848-00283239 it's not only no debt in um _dsg9_R3v-8-01444-00283240-00283479 no college debt but i have a friend so _dsg9_R3v-8-01445-00283480-00283727 when i started my tutoring business _dsg9_R3v-8-01446-00283728-00283839 people have already said this but you _dsg9_R3v-8-01447-00283840-00284079 got to look for mentors about everything _dsg9_R3v-8-01448-00284080-00284334 and and i i got it one of my friends is _dsg9_R3v-8-01449-00284335-00284623 is an accountant and he does a lot of um _dsg9_R3v-8-01450-00284624-00284847 medium-sized private businesses and _dsg9_R3v-8-01451-00284848-00285110 he was giving me some advice and in the _dsg9_R3v-8-01452-00285111-00285223 course of talking we started talking _dsg9_R3v-8-01453-00285224-00285303 about like _dsg9_R3v-8-01454-00285304-00285534 how many people he knows like couples _dsg9_R3v-8-01455-00285535-00285695 who between the two of them make _dsg9_R3v-8-01456-00285696-00285839 hundred thousand six hundred thousand _dsg9_R3v-8-01457-00285840-00285991 dollars a year and live paycheck to _dsg9_R3v-8-01458-00285992-00286054 paycheck _dsg9_R3v-8-01459-00286055-00286254 you know and when you live like that you _dsg9_R3v-8-01460-00286255-00286510 can't take any risks or make any changes _dsg9_R3v-8-01461-00286511-00286815 so i would say you know you're you're uh _dsg9_R3v-8-01462-00286816-00286958 i'm a math teacher so your _dsg9_R3v-8-01463-00286959-00287215 your income can be a wave function you _dsg9_R3v-8-01464-00287216-00287310 know _dsg9_R3v-8-01465-00287311-00287527 and your but your expenses should be _dsg9_R3v-8-01466-00287528-00287695 like a linear function down here at the _dsg9_R3v-8-01467-00287696-00287758 bottom _dsg9_R3v-8-01468-00287759-00287975 and that way you know everything in _dsg9_R3v-8-01469-00287976-00288158 everything that gets clipped by the wave _dsg9_R3v-8-01470-00288159-00288375 is savings and you never get hurt too _dsg9_R3v-8-01471-00288376-00288487 bad and _dsg9_R3v-8-01472-00288488-00288743 and um i really think no debt at all _dsg9_R3v-8-01473-00288744-00288895 it's you know _dsg9_R3v-8-01474-00288896-00289303 uh probably how you take risks but um _dsg9_R3v-8-01475-00289304-00289487 so and then i think the other part of _dsg9_R3v-8-01476-00289488-00289663 your question was uh _dsg9_R3v-8-01477-00289664-00289782 what have i learned from these _dsg9_R3v-8-01478-00289783-00289999 experiences well that that's like you _dsg9_R3v-8-01479-00290000-00290095 know _dsg9_R3v-8-01480-00290096-00290263 ethan kind of got into that little bit _dsg9_R3v-8-01481-00290264-00290430 that that's like an hour talk and and _dsg9_R3v-8-01482-00290431-00290558 you never know what you're going to use _dsg9_R3v-8-01483-00290559-00290615 later _dsg9_R3v-8-01484-00290616-00290879 you know i can i mean the stuff that i _dsg9_R3v-8-01485-00290880-00291015 learned from the trading i'll tell you _dsg9_R3v-8-01486-00291016-00291175 what i really learned from the trading _dsg9_R3v-8-01487-00291176-00291487 um two things one i remember i remember _dsg9_R3v-8-01488-00291488-00291623 to this day _dsg9_R3v-8-01489-00291624-00291934 i was so the cfo at i _dsg9_R3v-8-01490-00291935-00292279 um intl fc stone _dsg9_R3v-8-01491-00292280-00292510 physical commodities unit was this guy _dsg9_R3v-8-01492-00292511-00292615 steve springer _dsg9_R3v-8-01493-00292616-00292830 and he was a grumpy old jewish guy from _dsg9_R3v-8-01494-00292831-00292951 the upper east side _dsg9_R3v-8-01495-00292952-00293119 and he was one of my mentors and i i _dsg9_R3v-8-01496-00293120-00293358 love this guy and uh _dsg9_R3v-8-01497-00293359-00293534 we were we were going we're going to _dsg9_R3v-8-01498-00293535-00293751 meet this kid jason paver _dsg9_R3v-8-01499-00293752-00293903 deutsche bank and we were trying to get _dsg9_R3v-8-01500-00293904-00294223 this line to do physical commodity repos _dsg9_R3v-8-01501-00294224-00294343 and i think we were borrowing money like _dsg9_R3v-8-01502-00294344-00294534 three percent and so i was asking _dsg9_R3v-8-01503-00294535-00294695 steve i said what are we going to ask _dsg9_R3v-8-01504-00294696-00294919 this guy for you know in terms of the _dsg9_R3v-8-01505-00294920-00295015 rate _dsg9_R3v-8-01506-00295016-00295327 for these repos and he said 175 basis _dsg9_R3v-8-01507-00295328-00295415 points _dsg9_R3v-8-01508-00295416-00295599 which is like half of what we were _dsg9_R3v-8-01509-00295600-00295775 currently borrowing at _dsg9_R3v-8-01510-00295776-00295999 i was like steve i mean like i thought _dsg9_R3v-8-01511-00296000-00296134 it'd be a home run if we could get two _dsg9_R3v-8-01512-00296135-00296295 and a half percent you know what i mean _dsg9_R3v-8-01513-00296296-00296423 and i'm like you're really gonna ask him _dsg9_R3v-8-01514-00296424-00296510 for _dsg9_R3v-8-01515-00296511-00296758 and and he said uh it's a little crude _dsg9_R3v-8-01516-00296759-00296854 but he said brian _dsg9_R3v-8-01517-00296855-00297110 if you don't ask you don't get laid and _dsg9_R3v-8-01518-00297111-00297199 i i like _dsg9_R3v-8-01519-00297200-00297510 i was like whoa you know and uh _dsg9_R3v-8-01520-00297511-00297806 that i've never forgotten that and uh i _dsg9_R3v-8-01521-00297807-00297951 think he said it that way so that i'd _dsg9_R3v-8-01522-00297952-00298143 remember it forever and uh _dsg9_R3v-8-01523-00298144-00298415 and i did remember it forever and um so _dsg9_R3v-8-01524-00298416-00298591 that's one thing i learned in trading _dsg9_R3v-8-01525-00298592-00298719 one of the one of the benefits of _dsg9_R3v-8-01526-00298720-00298895 trading is that you _dsg9_R3v-8-01527-00298896-00299023 you have to go out there and ask for the _dsg9_R3v-8-01528-00299024-00299134 things that you want you got to go _dsg9_R3v-8-01529-00299135-00299254 pursue them _dsg9_R3v-8-01530-00299255-00299487 and uh the other thing i learned is i _dsg9_R3v-8-01531-00299488-00299806 just met so many people who _dsg9_R3v-8-01532-00299807-00300151 like like everybody's been saying they _dsg9_R3v-8-01533-00300152-00300287 develop careers in things you never _dsg9_R3v-8-01534-00300288-00300423 would have expected i did a ton of _dsg9_R3v-8-01535-00300424-00300615 business with these two guys _dsg9_R3v-8-01536-00300616-00301023 uh alejandro and isak in uh who were _dsg9_R3v-8-01537-00301024-00301287 recycled metals magnates in the mexico _dsg9_R3v-8-01538-00301288-00301358 city area _dsg9_R3v-8-01539-00301359-00301623 and i used to spend you know a week at a _dsg9_R3v-8-01540-00301624-00301775 time with these guys hanging out _dsg9_R3v-8-01541-00301776-00301943 staying in their house and we did a ton _dsg9_R3v-8-01542-00301944-00302119 of business with them and uh _dsg9_R3v-8-01543-00302120-00302358 they started out the two of them with _dsg9_R3v-8-01544-00302359-00302575 like a bicycle with like a trailer _dsg9_R3v-8-01545-00302576-00302799 in the back of it when they were like 14 _dsg9_R3v-8-01546-00302800-00302951 years old collecting _dsg9_R3v-8-01547-00302952-00303191 scrap metal and they literally built an _dsg9_R3v-8-01548-00303192-00303271 empire _dsg9_R3v-8-01549-00303272-00303439 like a hundred million dollar empire out _dsg9_R3v-8-01550-00303440-00303671 of junk they had like 35 _dsg9_R3v-8-01551-00303672-00303934 recycled metals processing facilities _dsg9_R3v-8-01552-00303935-00304023 all over _dsg9_R3v-8-01553-00304024-00304382 uh central and northern mexico so like _dsg9_R3v-8-01554-00304383-00304575 and it just blew me away you know and _dsg9_R3v-8-01555-00304576-00304719 who would ever ever _dsg9_R3v-8-01556-00304720-00304975 think of of doing something like that _dsg9_R3v-8-01557-00304976-00305054 and it just _dsg9_R3v-8-01558-00305055-00305439 it just happened you know and um _dsg9_R3v-8-01559-00305440-00305599 but the thing about what did you say _dsg9_R3v-8-01560-00305600-00305791 about the present _dsg9_R3v-8-01561-00305792-00305951 teaching what did you ask me about oh _dsg9_R3v-8-01562-00305952-00306103 yeah um how did you find your passion _dsg9_R3v-8-01563-00306104-00306215 for teaching because it is a bit _dsg9_R3v-8-01564-00306216-00306279 different _dsg9_R3v-8-01565-00306280-00306430 from you know what you did for the first _dsg9_R3v-8-01566-00306431-00306599 seven eight years of your career _dsg9_R3v-8-01567-00306600-00306903 yeah yeah it's very different so uh well _dsg9_R3v-8-01568-00306904-00307095 actually so that does have a kind of _dsg9_R3v-8-01569-00307096-00307279 practical lesson besides dumb luck _dsg9_R3v-8-01570-00307280-00307447 again it was what people were talking _dsg9_R3v-8-01571-00307448-00307591 about uh _dsg9_R3v-8-01572-00307592-00307895 you know um _dsg9_R3v-8-01573-00307896-00308143 your network and and trying things out a _dsg9_R3v-8-01574-00308144-00308215 friend of mine _dsg9_R3v-8-01575-00308216-00308358 i was taking some down time and doing _dsg9_R3v-8-01576-00308359-00308630 some consulting a friend of mine _dsg9_R3v-8-01577-00308631-00308823 asked me if i'd help out uh he's a _dsg9_R3v-8-01578-00308824-00309039 teacher in the south bronx _dsg9_R3v-8-01579-00309040-00309239 and he's also the wrestling coach there _dsg9_R3v-8-01580-00309240-00309343 he wanted to _dsg9_R3v-8-01581-00309344-00309534 me to help out he had a he had a guy _dsg9_R3v-8-01582-00309535-00309663 about my size that i could help out _dsg9_R3v-8-01583-00309664-00309791 wrestling but more than that he wanted _dsg9_R3v-8-01584-00309792-00309910 to do a tutoring program _dsg9_R3v-8-01585-00309911-00310206 and get these kids some some help and _dsg9_R3v-8-01586-00310207-00310334 and so _dsg9_R3v-8-01587-00310335-00310503 i was helping him out and that's how i _dsg9_R3v-8-01588-00310504-00310663 found out that i loved it just by _dsg9_R3v-8-01589-00310664-00310806 volunteering my time and hanging out _dsg9_R3v-8-01590-00310807-00311023 with them and then and then _dsg9_R3v-8-01591-00311024-00311191 then i took a job to sort of test the _dsg9_R3v-8-01592-00311192-00311367 words more and you know _dsg9_R3v-8-01593-00311368-00311582 and and so on and so forth and the way i _dsg9_R3v-8-01594-00311583-00311734 got my current role _dsg9_R3v-8-01595-00311735-00311910 is is again through another wrestling _dsg9_R3v-8-01596-00311911-00312103 contact i just went and had lunch with _dsg9_R3v-8-01597-00312104-00312399 with my old wrestling coach and and he's _dsg9_R3v-8-01598-00312400-00312487 actually the head of the _dsg9_R3v-8-01599-00312488-00312687 phys ed department at the school and and _dsg9_R3v-8-01600-00312688-00312903 i wasn't thinking of a job at all _dsg9_R3v-8-01601-00312904-00313119 but we just got to talking about uh what _dsg9_R3v-8-01602-00313120-00313254 i was doing and _dsg9_R3v-8-01603-00313255-00313399 tutoring some people and i'm really _dsg9_R3v-8-01604-00313400-00313567 really enjoying it and uh _dsg9_R3v-8-01605-00313568-00313743 goes oh we have a part-time math _dsg9_R3v-8-01606-00313744-00314030 position would you like to _dsg9_R3v-8-01607-00314031-00314239 do a demo lesson and i thought never in _dsg9_R3v-8-01608-00314240-00314399 a million years will they hire me for _dsg9_R3v-8-01609-00314400-00314471 this job _dsg9_R3v-8-01610-00314472-00314663 you know i don't have the background i _dsg9_R3v-8-01611-00314664-00314895 don't have the experience _dsg9_R3v-8-01612-00314896-00315199 but you know again you got to go ask for _dsg9_R3v-8-01613-00315200-00315375 what you want and i went and i showed up _dsg9_R3v-8-01614-00315376-00315534 and i said i want this job and you _dsg9_R3v-8-01615-00315535-00315703 should give me this job and _dsg9_R3v-8-01616-00315704-00315943 you know maybe not exactly like that a _dsg9_R3v-8-01617-00315944-00316087 little more uh _dsg9_R3v-8-01618-00316088-00316271 you know you can you can speak the right _dsg9_R3v-8-01619-00316272-00316495 way but but but essentially that _dsg9_R3v-8-01620-00316496-00316782 yeah all right thank you so much i think _dsg9_R3v-8-01621-00316783-00316919 now we're going to move on to the q _dsg9_R3v-8-01622-00316920-00317271 a section now _dsg9_R3v-8-01623-00317272-00317543 hi guys um first i just want to thank _dsg9_R3v-8-01624-00317544-00317606 everybody _dsg9_R3v-8-01625-00317607-00317806 um i don't think i've ever heard a panel _dsg9_R3v-8-01626-00317807-00317975 with such real _dsg9_R3v-8-01627-00317976-00318382 answers and candid um stories so _dsg9_R3v-8-01628-00318383-00318751 thank you so much um _dsg9_R3v-8-01629-00318752-00319006 we do um have one question that came in _dsg9_R3v-8-01630-00319007-00319103 and it's _dsg9_R3v-8-01631-00319104-00319534 it's put to all of you so um _dsg9_R3v-8-01632-00319535-00319879 if you anyone can jump in _dsg9_R3v-8-01633-00319880-00320167 um it says my question is you all had to _dsg9_R3v-8-01634-00320168-00320399 deal with a lot of negative aspects _dsg9_R3v-8-01635-00320400-00320703 of early career development layoffs on _dsg9_R3v-8-01636-00320704-00320927 unpaid internships lower pay because of _dsg9_R3v-8-01637-00320928-00321127 the elastic economic crisis _dsg9_R3v-8-01638-00321128-00321271 what are you doing to lessen those _dsg9_R3v-8-01639-00321272-00321758 difficulties for the next generation _dsg9_R3v-8-01640-00321759-00322023 sure um i can get started i mean i think _dsg9_R3v-8-01641-00322024-00322119 that _dsg9_R3v-8-01642-00322120-00322230 that was actually one of the reasons why _dsg9_R3v-8-01643-00322231-00322367 i wanted to participate in this panel in _dsg9_R3v-8-01644-00322368-00322510 the first place uh i guess when the _dsg9_R3v-8-01645-00322511-00322615 email came out _dsg9_R3v-8-01646-00322616-00322887 um i kind of jumped at the opportunity _dsg9_R3v-8-01647-00322888-00323054 just because i've given the i've kind of _dsg9_R3v-8-01648-00323055-00323239 told this story as part of trainings _dsg9_R3v-8-01649-00323240-00323415 that i've delivered at deloitte _dsg9_R3v-8-01650-00323416-00323654 um just to kind of put it put into _dsg9_R3v-8-01651-00323655-00323719 perspective _dsg9_R3v-8-01652-00323720-00323934 kind of what what i had started it and _dsg9_R3v-8-01653-00323935-00324047 kind of what _dsg9_R3v-8-01654-00324048-00324279 how quickly things can change but uh i _dsg9_R3v-8-01655-00324280-00324463 would say that just to continue to share _dsg9_R3v-8-01656-00324464-00324527 this with _dsg9_R3v-8-01657-00324528-00324663 um with students with younger _dsg9_R3v-8-01658-00324664-00324879 professionals at work uh that was really _dsg9_R3v-8-01659-00324880-00324934 the _dsg9_R3v-8-01660-00324935-00325119 you know how to manage and navigate _dsg9_R3v-8-01661-00325120-00325263 through a difficult time this really _dsg9_R3v-8-01662-00325264-00325430 taught me a lot and that was _dsg9_R3v-8-01663-00325431-00325615 and i kind of took take the opportunity _dsg9_R3v-8-01664-00325616-00325734 whenever i get the _dsg9_R3v-8-01665-00325735-00325895 the audience to try to do that so that _dsg9_R3v-8-01666-00325896-00326103 was you know thanks for inviting us to _dsg9_R3v-8-01667-00326104-00326239 share this but that was really _dsg9_R3v-8-01668-00326240-00326351 you know this is one of the ways in _dsg9_R3v-8-01669-00326352-00326558 which i try to to try to get that story _dsg9_R3v-8-01670-00326559-00326815 back _dsg9_R3v-8-01671-00326816-00327143 yeah i i personally uh when i was _dsg9_R3v-8-01672-00327144-00327358 recently leaving a company in my exit _dsg9_R3v-8-01673-00327359-00327479 interview _dsg9_R3v-8-01674-00327480-00327703 um i told them that i felt at times _dsg9_R3v-8-01675-00327704-00327806 during that that _dsg9_R3v-8-01676-00327807-00328095 tenure that they had really pushed for _dsg9_R3v-8-01677-00328096-00328271 you know when i was pushing for _dsg9_R3v-8-01678-00328272-00328430 more and more responsibility they said _dsg9_R3v-8-01679-00328431-00328615 no we really want someone's 15 years _dsg9_R3v-8-01680-00328616-00328775 experience _dsg9_R3v-8-01681-00328776-00328951 and i told them it's kind of a negative _dsg9_R3v-8-01682-00328952-00329230 view especially in times like these _dsg9_R3v-8-01683-00329231-00329447 um and i talked to senior executives at _dsg9_R3v-8-01684-00329448-00329551 that company and i said _dsg9_R3v-8-01685-00329552-00329815 you have to realize that there's a class _dsg9_R3v-8-01686-00329816-00329999 of graduates coming out _dsg9_R3v-8-01687-00330000-00330263 and instead of you know obviously i _dsg9_R3v-8-01688-00330264-00330406 couldn't really _dsg9_R3v-8-01689-00330407-00330710 influence their um this other company _dsg9_R3v-8-01690-00330711-00330854 they were going to do a hiring freeze _dsg9_R3v-8-01691-00330855-00330991 which i knew about _dsg9_R3v-8-01692-00330992-00331175 uh but i told them look open up _dsg9_R3v-8-01693-00331176-00331343 internship opportunities and even _dsg9_R3v-8-01694-00331344-00331478 recently at _dsg9_R3v-8-01695-00331479-00331775 amazon um on my team calls we were _dsg9_R3v-8-01696-00331776-00331958 talking about internship opportunities _dsg9_R3v-8-01697-00331959-00332023 so _dsg9_R3v-8-01698-00332024-00332143 those are definitely things that i _dsg9_R3v-8-01699-00332144-00332310 wouldn't see necessarily as negatives _dsg9_R3v-8-01700-00332311-00332415 right any _dsg9_R3v-8-01701-00332416-00332799 any opportunity you have to _dsg9_R3v-8-01702-00332800-00332999 build your experience and increase your _dsg9_R3v-8-01703-00333000-00333127 marketability _dsg9_R3v-8-01704-00333128-00333334 um certainly a positive one other thing _dsg9_R3v-8-01705-00333335-00333495 i would plug that i used _dsg9_R3v-8-01706-00333496-00333799 uh is a catchafire.org _dsg9_R3v-8-01707-00333800-00333975 i'm not sure if people are familiar with _dsg9_R3v-8-01708-00333976-00334182 it but it help it's a non _dsg9_R3v-8-01709-00334183-00334463 they basically help nonprofits find _dsg9_R3v-8-01710-00334464-00334582 freelancers _dsg9_R3v-8-01711-00334583-00334743 so it's a great way to kind of give back _dsg9_R3v-8-01712-00334744-00334903 but also build your skill set _dsg9_R3v-8-01713-00334904-00335151 so um again i think just raising _dsg9_R3v-8-01714-00335152-00335254 awareness right i _dsg9_R3v-8-01715-00335255-00335510 i have also like andrew talked about my _dsg9_R3v-8-01716-00335511-00335630 experience _dsg9_R3v-8-01717-00335631-00335854 um you know at times i've heard the word _dsg9_R3v-8-01718-00335855-00336015 millennial thrown around like it's a _dsg9_R3v-8-01719-00336016-00336167 kind of a negative thing _dsg9_R3v-8-01720-00336168-00336303 and i've told people you know we've been _dsg9_R3v-8-01721-00336304-00336527 through a lot and and sometimes the _dsg9_R3v-8-01722-00336528-00336687 other generation the older generation _dsg9_R3v-8-01723-00336688-00336854 don't realize that so _dsg9_R3v-8-01724-00336855-00337071 i think at least from my perspective i _dsg9_R3v-8-01725-00337072-00337223 will always be looking at the next _dsg9_R3v-8-01726-00337224-00337319 generation as _dsg9_R3v-8-01727-00337320-00337543 you know kind of a similar in certain _dsg9_R3v-8-01728-00337544-00337647 ways and _dsg9_R3v-8-01729-00337648-00337815 i definitely would look for ways to help _dsg9_R3v-8-01730-00337816-00338719 them especially during times like these _dsg9_R3v-8-01731-00338720-00338967 um one of the roles that i've taken on _dsg9_R3v-8-01732-00338968-00339167 in my job also is um _dsg9_R3v-8-01733-00339168-00339351 a lead coach for new york city teaching _dsg9_R3v-8-01734-00339352-00339471 collaborative _dsg9_R3v-8-01735-00339472-00339782 so i'm also helping career changers who _dsg9_R3v-8-01736-00339783-00339991 are coming into teaching um through the _dsg9_R3v-8-01737-00339992-00340215 new york city teaching fellows and _dsg9_R3v-8-01738-00340216-00340478 i'm helping them to hone their practice _dsg9_R3v-8-01739-00340479-00340591 in fact after _dsg9_R3v-8-01740-00340592-00340871 this panel i have a debrief session with _dsg9_R3v-8-01741-00340872-00341023 a _dsg9_R3v-8-01742-00341024-00341327 partner teacher who um i observed _dsg9_R3v-8-01743-00341328-00341503 earlier today to give her feedback on _dsg9_R3v-8-01744-00341504-00341630 her teaching _dsg9_R3v-8-01745-00341631-00341943 um so that's the way i'm trying to kind _dsg9_R3v-8-01746-00341944-00341991 of like _dsg9_R3v-8-01747-00341992-00342287 pay my experience forward um and give _dsg9_R3v-8-01748-00342288-00342454 back to people who are _dsg9_R3v-8-01749-00342455-00343082 um navigating the waters of a career _dsg9_R3v-8-01750-00343083-00343439 change _dsg9_R3v-8-01751-00343440-00343767 i uh i host a podcast on a _dsg9_R3v-8-01752-00343768-00343958 food-oriented internet radio station _dsg9_R3v-8-01753-00343959-00344087 called heritage radio network and the _dsg9_R3v-8-01754-00344088-00344254 whole theme of the podcast _dsg9_R3v-8-01755-00344255-00344439 is is career change as people have _dsg9_R3v-8-01756-00344440-00344599 changed careers to work in food _dsg9_R3v-8-01757-00344600-00344751 after having done all kinds of other _dsg9_R3v-8-01758-00344752-00345015 things we've had my co-host is a former _dsg9_R3v-8-01759-00345016-00345182 attorney who's now a baker i've _dsg9_R3v-8-01760-00345183-00345319 obviously bounced around in a lot of _dsg9_R3v-8-01761-00345320-00345487 different ways um _dsg9_R3v-8-01762-00345488-00345599 and so getting to have those _dsg9_R3v-8-01763-00345600-00345734 conversations first of all and then _dsg9_R3v-8-01764-00345735-00345863 getting to share them _dsg9_R3v-8-01765-00345864-00346078 through the through the heritage radio _dsg9_R3v-8-01766-00346079-00346182 network through their _dsg9_R3v-8-01767-00346183-00346471 their audience and hopefully get to to _dsg9_R3v-8-01768-00346472-00346623 draw out some of the _dsg9_R3v-8-01769-00346624-00346806 some of the elements of those career _dsg9_R3v-8-01770-00346807-00346975 changes that people have made _dsg9_R3v-8-01771-00346976-00347215 and and and give other people ideas _dsg9_R3v-8-01772-00347216-00347327 about how to do it for themselves _dsg9_R3v-8-01773-00347328-00347454 because ultimately _dsg9_R3v-8-01774-00347455-00347606 they're you know like we're all saying _dsg9_R3v-8-01775-00347607-00347791 we can talk about our experiences we can _dsg9_R3v-8-01776-00347792-00348039 we can share within our networks but _dsg9_R3v-8-01777-00348040-00348151 ultimately _dsg9_R3v-8-01778-00348152-00348303 you're on your own you're gonna have to _dsg9_R3v-8-01779-00348304-00348447 make these decisions for yourselves _dsg9_R3v-8-01780-00348448-00348591 you're gonna have to navigate them _dsg9_R3v-8-01781-00348592-00348839 you're gonna have to to figure out the _dsg9_R3v-8-01782-00348840-00348999 best course of action in a _dsg9_R3v-8-01783-00349000-00349206 in a less than ideal under less than _dsg9_R3v-8-01784-00349207-00349367 ideal circumstances and so _dsg9_R3v-8-01785-00349368-00349519 learn as much as you can reach out to _dsg9_R3v-8-01786-00349520-00349623 people you know reach out to people _dsg9_R3v-8-01787-00349624-00349743 who've been through similar experiences _dsg9_R3v-8-01788-00349744-00349791 but _dsg9_R3v-8-01789-00349792-00350023 but the decision is yours and and that's _dsg9_R3v-8-01790-00350024-00350247 scary but that's also very empowering _dsg9_R3v-8-01791-00350248-00350575 and so so finding that that balance _dsg9_R3v-8-01792-00350576-00350854 and and pursuing it is is really _dsg9_R3v-8-01793-00350855-00350958 important _dsg9_R3v-8-01794-00350959-00351278 awesome thanks so much um so we have one _dsg9_R3v-8-01795-00351279-00351406 more question and then i think we'll _dsg9_R3v-8-01796-00351407-00351487 wrap it up _dsg9_R3v-8-01797-00351488-00351887 um _dsg9_R3v-8-01798-00351888-00352063 what and she wants to rephrase it okay _dsg9_R3v-8-01799-00352064-00352191 what is one crucial _dsg9_R3v-8-01800-00352192-00352551 thing or trait that you ha that you have _dsg9_R3v-8-01801-00352552-00352719 um you did that you think greatly _dsg9_R3v-8-01802-00352720-00352910 impacted your ability to get a job _dsg9_R3v-8-01803-00352911-00353239 that more people should do um _dsg9_R3v-8-01804-00353240-00353375 maybe ethan will start with you since _dsg9_R3v-8-01805-00353376-00353606 you're on my screen _dsg9_R3v-8-01806-00353607-00353943 uh sure one trait um you know nobody is _dsg9_R3v-8-01807-00353944-00354047 special right like _dsg9_R3v-8-01808-00354048-00354415 we're all working through this um you're _dsg9_R3v-8-01809-00354416-00354567 gonna have to find the things that work _dsg9_R3v-8-01810-00354568-00354710 for you the things that worked for me _dsg9_R3v-8-01811-00354711-00354839 are not gonna be the things that work _dsg9_R3v-8-01812-00354840-00354982 for other people _dsg9_R3v-8-01813-00354983-00355167 um i think one of the challenges with _dsg9_R3v-8-01814-00355168-00355375 getting advice in a setting like this or _dsg9_R3v-8-01815-00355376-00355495 really any setting is that _dsg9_R3v-8-01816-00355496-00355647 when we're giving advice we're really _dsg9_R3v-8-01817-00355648-00355782 giving advice to ourselves we're not _dsg9_R3v-8-01818-00355783-00355934 giving advice to you because we don't _dsg9_R3v-8-01819-00355935-00356199 know your circumstances your situation _dsg9_R3v-8-01820-00356200-00356487 how you approach problems um so you can _dsg9_R3v-8-01821-00356488-00356623 you can pick and choose whatever's _dsg9_R3v-8-01822-00356624-00356767 valuable from our stories _dsg9_R3v-8-01823-00356768-00356927 that you feel like applies to yourself _dsg9_R3v-8-01824-00356928-00357151 but um but i wouldn't say that there's _dsg9_R3v-8-01825-00357152-00357375 there's one trait or set of traits it's _dsg9_R3v-8-01826-00357376-00357463 it's really about _dsg9_R3v-8-01827-00357464-00357654 finding your traits finding the things _dsg9_R3v-8-01828-00357655-00357815 that you love to do that you're good at _dsg9_R3v-8-01829-00357816-00358078 that other people respect you for and _dsg9_R3v-8-01830-00358079-00358495 doing more of those things _dsg9_R3v-8-01831-00358496-00358654 yeah i guess the only thing i would add _dsg9_R3v-8-01832-00358655-00358871 in the way of the trades i think of _dsg9_R3v-8-01833-00358872-00359030 just in reading and thinking about those _dsg9_R3v-8-01834-00359031-00359263 that are ultimately i guess successful _dsg9_R3v-8-01835-00359264-00359439 um i mean i think the one of the biggest _dsg9_R3v-8-01836-00359440-00359639 traits that uh has come across is just _dsg9_R3v-8-01837-00359640-00359830 being curious and i think we've _dsg9_R3v-8-01838-00359831-00360167 naturally through all of our experiences _dsg9_R3v-8-01839-00360168-00360327 we're curious in the sense that we've _dsg9_R3v-8-01840-00360328-00360471 had to bounce around learn a lot of _dsg9_R3v-8-01841-00360472-00360543 different things _dsg9_R3v-8-01842-00360544-00360758 ask a lot of questions and just _dsg9_R3v-8-01843-00360759-00360967 continuing to be curious i mean i've _dsg9_R3v-8-01844-00360968-00361134 had the good fortune of you know having _dsg9_R3v-8-01845-00361135-00361295 some job security throughout throughout _dsg9_R3v-8-01846-00361296-00361582 my you know through my career but _dsg9_R3v-8-01847-00361583-00361799 get away being a really really big place _dsg9_R3v-8-01848-00361800-00361958 i got you know if i had a question on _dsg9_R3v-8-01849-00361959-00362110 anything just being able to ask people _dsg9_R3v-8-01850-00362111-00362230 about certain things how do they do _dsg9_R3v-8-01851-00362231-00362351 certain things _dsg9_R3v-8-01852-00362352-00362510 and as again this group mentioned and i _dsg9_R3v-8-01853-00362511-00362630 think you'll all find especially as _dsg9_R3v-8-01854-00362631-00362751 college students i mean i think the _dsg9_R3v-8-01855-00362752-00362910 doors are always open to you _dsg9_R3v-8-01856-00362911-00363103 i would say at deloitte you know our _dsg9_R3v-8-01857-00363104-00363271 interns generally sit right above our _dsg9_R3v-8-01858-00363272-00363406 partners an intern asks _dsg9_R3v-8-01859-00363407-00363599 any questions they're probably going to _dsg9_R3v-8-01860-00363600-00363751 get a you know they're going to get a _dsg9_R3v-8-01861-00363752-00363910 response so you guys are in a really _dsg9_R3v-8-01862-00363911-00364078 unique position to ask a lot of great _dsg9_R3v-8-01863-00364079-00364287 questions so just continue to be curious _dsg9_R3v-8-01864-00364288-00364439 and that'll really take you far because _dsg9_R3v-8-01865-00364440-00364606 you never know _dsg9_R3v-8-01866-00364607-00364719 you know asking a question there might _dsg9_R3v-8-01867-00364720-00364830 be something that keeps your interest _dsg9_R3v-8-01868-00364831-00364975 and i think this group here has kind of _dsg9_R3v-8-01869-00364976-00365015 talked _dsg9_R3v-8-01870-00365016-00365303 to that a bunch um you never know where _dsg9_R3v-8-01871-00365304-00365454 that where that might take you it might _dsg9_R3v-8-01872-00365455-00365567 take you down a rabbit hole you never _dsg9_R3v-8-01873-00365568-00365663 thought you were going to go down _dsg9_R3v-8-01874-00365664-00365830 just continue to be curious and you _dsg9_R3v-8-01875-00365831-00365934 never know where that's going to take _dsg9_R3v-8-01876-00365935-00366527 you _dsg9_R3v-8-01877-00366528-00366887 so um i think besides flexibility which _dsg9_R3v-8-01878-00366888-00367087 is a point that's been reiterated over _dsg9_R3v-8-01879-00367088-00367215 and over again _dsg9_R3v-8-01880-00367216-00367543 because it is so important um _dsg9_R3v-8-01881-00367544-00367719 to being successful i think you also _dsg9_R3v-8-01882-00367720-00367958 have to be really honest with yourself _dsg9_R3v-8-01883-00367959-00368247 about not only what your strengths are _dsg9_R3v-8-01884-00368248-00368399 and what your weaknesses are _dsg9_R3v-8-01885-00368400-00368775 but also like what you can see yourself _dsg9_R3v-8-01886-00368776-00369015 doing and being passionate about so just _dsg9_R3v-8-01887-00369016-00369095 like _dsg9_R3v-8-01888-00369096-00369367 being really honest with yourself about _dsg9_R3v-8-01889-00369368-00369527 um _dsg9_R3v-8-01890-00369528-00369767 what a realistic goal is for you if you _dsg9_R3v-8-01891-00369768-00370295 have to change your goals _dsg9_R3v-8-01892-00370296-00370591 um i would people already talked about _dsg9_R3v-8-01893-00370592-00370647 it but _dsg9_R3v-8-01894-00370648-00370887 it can't be emphasized enough but number _dsg9_R3v-8-01895-00370888-00370991 one is _dsg9_R3v-8-01896-00370992-00371271 it's like ask questions and ask for help _dsg9_R3v-8-01897-00371272-00371351 you know _dsg9_R3v-8-01898-00371352-00371702 i can't in in everything that i've done _dsg9_R3v-8-01899-00371703-00371967 you know i've i've always that's one _dsg9_R3v-8-01900-00371968-00372015 thing _dsg9_R3v-8-01901-00372016-00372254 for whatever reason i don't know i'm not _dsg9_R3v-8-01902-00372255-00372430 really a humble person and like i told _dsg9_R3v-8-01903-00372431-00372591 you guys when i was younger especially i _dsg9_R3v-8-01904-00372592-00372710 was more _dsg9_R3v-8-01905-00372711-00372839 worried about what people thought of me _dsg9_R3v-8-01906-00372840-00372982 but for whatever reason i don't know why _dsg9_R3v-8-01907-00372983-00373167 i got in my head that you you can't ask _dsg9_R3v-8-01908-00373168-00373278 questions _dsg9_R3v-8-01909-00373279-00373567 and like it's okay not to know something _dsg9_R3v-8-01910-00373568-00373663 like that is not _dsg9_R3v-8-01911-00373664-00373847 smart people ask questions it just means _dsg9_R3v-8-01912-00373848-00373967 that you don't know a certain set of _dsg9_R3v-8-01913-00373968-00374006 facts _dsg9_R3v-8-01914-00374007-00374230 and my experience has been that if you _dsg9_R3v-8-01915-00374231-00374391 do that um _dsg9_R3v-8-01916-00374392-00374591 people people will bend over backwards _dsg9_R3v-8-01917-00374592-00374799 to help you i had traders taking me _dsg9_R3v-8-01918-00374800-00375030 in in conference rooms and and _dsg9_R3v-8-01919-00375031-00375158 explaining what _dsg9_R3v-8-01920-00375159-00375430 copper arbitrage is like you know buying _dsg9_R3v-8-01921-00375431-00375639 the london metal exchange and selling on _dsg9_R3v-8-01922-00375640-00375743 the the comex _dsg9_R3v-8-01923-00375744-00375975 exchange and and how it works and how _dsg9_R3v-8-01924-00375976-00376095 you make money off it _dsg9_R3v-8-01925-00376096-00376502 and uh you know and and i had uh _dsg9_R3v-8-01926-00376503-00376775 just as a teacher i cannot tell you you _dsg9_R3v-8-01927-00376776-00376806 know _dsg9_R3v-8-01928-00376807-00377030 how the other teachers have bent over _dsg9_R3v-8-01929-00377031-00377127 backwards to _dsg9_R3v-8-01930-00377128-00377375 to help me and teach me and come to my _dsg9_R3v-8-01931-00377376-00377447 class _dsg9_R3v-8-01932-00377448-00377575 and and watch it and give me _dsg9_R3v-8-01933-00377576-00377878 constructive criticism and uh _dsg9_R3v-8-01934-00377879-00378030 there are people out there and they do _dsg9_R3v-8-01935-00378031-00378175 want to help you because everybody has _dsg9_R3v-8-01936-00378176-00378199 been _dsg9_R3v-8-01937-00378200-00378351 there where they're at the they're at _dsg9_R3v-8-01938-00378352-00378575 the bottom of the ladder or they're _dsg9_R3v-8-01939-00378576-00378782 they're the one who's you know in the _dsg9_R3v-8-01940-00378783-00379006 out position you know so it's it's a _dsg9_R3v-8-01941-00379007-00379663 human universal great _dsg9_R3v-8-01942-00379664-00379910 um actually just going to ask one more _dsg9_R3v-8-01943-00379911-00379999 question and i'm going to _dsg9_R3v-8-01944-00380000-00380310 direct just to ethan because he did um _dsg9_R3v-8-01945-00380311-00380495 he spoke about this and i think _dsg9_R3v-8-01946-00380496-00380630 especially for our macaulay _dsg9_R3v-8-01947-00380631-00380871 students on the line um from what i've _dsg9_R3v-8-01948-00380872-00381023 gathered um _dsg9_R3v-8-01949-00381024-00381182 but i've witnessed over the years that _dsg9_R3v-8-01950-00381183-00381399 are you're all so smart and _dsg9_R3v-8-01951-00381400-00381719 and you work so hard and um _dsg9_R3v-8-01952-00381720-00381878 ethan you said something about not _dsg9_R3v-8-01953-00381879-00382063 taking this kind of time periods _dsg9_R3v-8-01954-00382064-00382302 um personally and like you you said you _dsg9_R3v-8-01955-00382303-00382415 were laid off and _dsg9_R3v-8-01956-00382416-00382630 can you just maybe emphasize a little _dsg9_R3v-8-01957-00382631-00382799 bit um a moment _dsg9_R3v-8-01958-00382800-00383054 where you know i think a lot of um _dsg9_R3v-8-01959-00383055-00383119 honors _dsg9_R3v-8-01960-00383120-00383302 students they're used to you know _dsg9_R3v-8-01961-00383303-00383454 getting the answer right and and _dsg9_R3v-8-01962-00383455-00383654 and every and getting what they worked _dsg9_R3v-8-01963-00383655-00383799 for and maybe you could just _dsg9_R3v-8-01964-00383800-00383982 we can end on you uh talking a little _dsg9_R3v-8-01965-00383983-00384102 bit about when _dsg9_R3v-8-01966-00384103-00384247 you know maybe you got laid off or _dsg9_R3v-8-01967-00384248-00384454 whatever and what what you honed in on _dsg9_R3v-8-01968-00384455-00384654 that got you through it _dsg9_R3v-8-01969-00384655-00385143 and then we'll end yeah um _dsg9_R3v-8-01970-00385144-00385399 i think so some of it is that there are _dsg9_R3v-8-01971-00385400-00385463 no more _dsg9_R3v-8-01972-00385464-00385791 right and wrong answers in in your lives _dsg9_R3v-8-01973-00385792-00386015 uh school is different from a _dsg9_R3v-8-01974-00386016-00386158 professional career _dsg9_R3v-8-01975-00386159-00386375 um you will have relationships with _dsg9_R3v-8-01976-00386376-00386471 bosses that will be _dsg9_R3v-8-01977-00386472-00386654 comparable or similar to relationships _dsg9_R3v-8-01978-00386655-00386743 that you have with teachers or _dsg9_R3v-8-01979-00386744-00386847 professors but _dsg9_R3v-8-01980-00386848-00387023 but are fundamentally different because _dsg9_R3v-8-01981-00387024-00387167 you can leave you can _dsg9_R3v-8-01982-00387168-00387687 walk out of the room if you want to um _dsg9_R3v-8-01983-00387688-00388030 the i mean like i said i've been laid _dsg9_R3v-8-01984-00388031-00388095 off a lot _dsg9_R3v-8-01985-00388096-00388351 uh which is a an experience that a lot _dsg9_R3v-8-01986-00388352-00388647 of uh people who graduated in 2008 2009 _dsg9_R3v-8-01987-00388648-00388982 share um _dsg9_R3v-8-01988-00388983-00389175 i guess i guess my my the piece of _dsg9_R3v-8-01989-00389176-00389295 advice i would leave you with _dsg9_R3v-8-01990-00389296-00389543 is to embrace every experience get what _dsg9_R3v-8-01991-00389544-00389599 you can _dsg9_R3v-8-01992-00389600-00389782 from that experience learn what you can _dsg9_R3v-8-01993-00389783-00389982 from the people around you _dsg9_R3v-8-01994-00389983-00390271 we we have the privilege of of living in _dsg9_R3v-8-01995-00390272-00390423 new york city of being surrounded by _dsg9_R3v-8-01996-00390424-00390575 some of the smartest most knowledgeable _dsg9_R3v-8-01997-00390576-00390678 people in the world _dsg9_R3v-8-01998-00390679-00390943 on any subject you can possibly imagine _dsg9_R3v-8-01999-00390944-00391102 and so whatever it is you're interested _dsg9_R3v-8-02000-00391103-00391182 in _dsg9_R3v-8-02001-00391183-00391343 get close to the people who are good at _dsg9_R3v-8-02002-00391344-00391495 doing that thing who know a lot about _dsg9_R3v-8-02003-00391496-00391599 that thing _dsg9_R3v-8-02004-00391600-00391847 um and then you know the ups and downs _dsg9_R3v-8-02005-00391848-00391934 of a career _dsg9_R3v-8-02006-00391935-00392143 they're gonna happen to everybody you _dsg9_R3v-8-02007-00392144-00392247 will roll with them _dsg9_R3v-8-02008-00392248-00392423 you will use the tools at your disposal _dsg9_R3v-8-02009-00392424-00392582 internally and externally _dsg9_R3v-8-02010-00392583-00392878 to make the most of those shifts but um _dsg9_R3v-8-02011-00392879-00393134 but spend time in every experience _dsg9_R3v-8-02012-00393135-00393439 uh so that _dsg9_R3v-8-02013-00393440-00393663 so that you come out of it as a better _dsg9_R3v-8-02014-00393664-00393830 person knowing more _dsg9_R3v-8-02015-00393831-00393991 about a subject that you care about _dsg9_R3v-8-02016-00393992-00394134 building stronger networks with other _dsg9_R3v-8-02017-00394135-00394334 people who also care about that subject _dsg9_R3v-8-02018-00394335-00394543 and then if the relationship or the the _dsg9_R3v-8-02019-00394544-00394695 job or whatever it is if it lasts a _dsg9_R3v-8-02020-00394696-00394734 month _dsg9_R3v-8-02021-00394735-00395087 amazing if it lasts 10 years even better _dsg9_R3v-8-02022-00395088-00395295 but you know i had i had this ice cream _dsg9_R3v-8-02023-00395296-00395502 company so i was working at a restaurant _dsg9_R3v-8-02024-00395503-00395630 on the lower east side called allen and _dsg9_R3v-8-02025-00395631-00395854 delancey uh i had been promoted to _dsg9_R3v-8-02026-00395855-00395951 pastry chef _dsg9_R3v-8-02027-00395952-00396078 two weeks before the restaurant went _dsg9_R3v-8-02028-00396079-00396310 bankrupt shut down overnight with no _dsg9_R3v-8-02029-00396311-00396454 notice it turned out later that the _dsg9_R3v-8-02030-00396455-00396591 owner had been funneling money out of _dsg9_R3v-8-02031-00396592-00396782 the business and it's a whole long _dsg9_R3v-8-02032-00396783-00396967 actually not uncommon story in in new _dsg9_R3v-8-02033-00396968-00397087 york city restaurants but _dsg9_R3v-8-02034-00397088-00397287 that's the way it happened so i just got _dsg9_R3v-8-02035-00397288-00397487 this promotion i was super excited _dsg9_R3v-8-02036-00397488-00397654 and then the restaurant was was gone _dsg9_R3v-8-02037-00397655-00397878 overnight they called us _dsg9_R3v-8-02038-00397879-00398087 one morning and said uh come in and get _dsg9_R3v-8-02039-00398088-00398247 your stuff we're done _dsg9_R3v-8-02040-00398248-00398551 um but i've been making a lot of ice _dsg9_R3v-8-02041-00398552-00398630 cream there _dsg9_R3v-8-02042-00398631-00398902 i i had this idea that i could start an _dsg9_R3v-8-02043-00398903-00399006 ice cream cart _dsg9_R3v-8-02044-00399007-00399319 um so i found a cart i found a friend of _dsg9_R3v-8-02045-00399320-00399423 a friend who who _dsg9_R3v-8-02046-00399424-00399575 was willing for whatever reason to be my _dsg9_R3v-8-02047-00399576-00399743 business partner who is still who is my _dsg9_R3v-8-02048-00399744-00399871 current business partner in my current _dsg9_R3v-8-02049-00399872-00399919 business _dsg9_R3v-8-02050-00399920-00400047 and has been one of my best friends for _dsg9_R3v-8-02051-00400048-00400302 10 years um and we had an ice cream cart _dsg9_R3v-8-02052-00400303-00400487 and it lasted for four months maybe not _dsg9_R3v-8-02053-00400488-00400654 even four months three months we didn't _dsg9_R3v-8-02054-00400655-00400743 pay ourselves _dsg9_R3v-8-02055-00400744-00401023 we donated 100 of the profits uh it was _dsg9_R3v-8-02056-00401024-00401102 in the scheme _dsg9_R3v-8-02057-00401103-00401319 in the time frame of my life a blip it _dsg9_R3v-8-02058-00401320-00401454 was a it was three months _dsg9_R3v-8-02059-00401455-00401678 one summer but but the way that that _dsg9_R3v-8-02060-00401679-00401758 experience has _dsg9_R3v-8-02061-00401759-00401934 has changed everything i've done and the _dsg9_R3v-8-02062-00401935-00402078 way that i look back on that experience _dsg9_R3v-8-02063-00402079-00402206 the way i talk about that experience to _dsg9_R3v-8-02064-00402207-00402310 other people the way i'm _dsg9_R3v-8-02065-00402311-00402639 telling you that story right now um the _dsg9_R3v-8-02066-00402640-00402863 the the value the impact of that _dsg9_R3v-8-02067-00402864-00403054 experience went way beyond the time that _dsg9_R3v-8-02068-00403055-00403175 i spent in it _dsg9_R3v-8-02069-00403176-00403351 um and so that would be the the piece of _dsg9_R3v-8-02070-00403352-00403527 advice that i leave you with is to _dsg9_R3v-8-02071-00403528-00403806 is to go as deep as you can into every _dsg9_R3v-8-02072-00403807-00403927 experience that you have _dsg9_R3v-8-02073-00403928-00404151 build as strong a network as you can at _dsg9_R3v-8-02074-00404152-00404295 every point in your career _dsg9_R3v-8-02075-00404296-00404527 and and whatever happens in the meantime _dsg9_R3v-8-02076-00404528-00404815 you'll be fine _dsg9_R3v-8-02077-00404816-00405127 okay thank you so much to everyone _dsg9_R3v-8-02078-00405128-00405471 um i think um _dsg9_R3v-8-02079-00405472-00405639 all panelists i'm sure will be okay if _dsg9_R3v-8-02080-00405640-00405791 we share your email _dsg9_R3v-8-02081-00405792-00406023 with students if they have follow-up _dsg9_R3v-8-02082-00406024-00406127 questions _dsg9_R3v-8-02083-00406128-00406463 um but thank you again um again a plug _dsg9_R3v-8-02084-00406464-00406702 for all the students out there your _dsg9_R3v-8-02085-00406703-00406871 alumni relations office your career _dsg9_R3v-8-02086-00406872-00407054 services office we're here to serve you _dsg9_R3v-8-02087-00407055-00407151 so please _dsg9_R3v-8-02088-00407152-00407367 uh use our resources and again each and _dsg9_R3v-8-02089-00407368-00407502 every one of these panelists _dsg9_R3v-8-02090-00407503-00407710 you were amazing you were so honest and _dsg9_R3v-8-02091-00407711-00407927 candid and um we're so appreciative and _dsg9_R3v-8-02092-00407928-00408063 samantha great job _dsg9_R3v-8-02093-00408064-00408671 everybody um take care thank you _dsg9_R3v-8-02094-00408672-00408875 all right thanks have a great day _dsg9_R3v-8-02095-00408876-00409176 everyone _glusjqTpCk-00000-00000000-00000238 you write in an op-ed and on LinkedIn _glusjqTpCk-00001-00000239-00000521 that mask is kind of a counter case _glusjqTpCk-00002-00000522-00000736 study for leadership just talk us about _glusjqTpCk-00003-00000737-00000923 why he's such a powerful counter case _glusjqTpCk-00004-00000924-00001175 study well Caroline at the very moment _glusjqTpCk-00005-00001176-00001354 when we have major multinational _glusjqTpCk-00006-00001355-00001614 companies like Pfizer Accenture _glusjqTpCk-00007-00001616-00001795 Salesforce Walmart _glusjqTpCk-00008-00001796-00002081 investing into their employees _glusjqTpCk-00009-00002082-00002363 well-being mental health and seeing the _glusjqTpCk-00010-00002364-00002633 business results in terms of recruitment _glusjqTpCk-00011-00002634-00002975 retention productivity we have Elon Musk _glusjqTpCk-00012-00002976-00003160 who is a genius when it comes to _glusjqTpCk-00013-00003161-00003586 understanding energy in cars clearly not _glusjqTpCk-00014-00003588-00003940 understanding human energy and acting _glusjqTpCk-00015-00003942-00004199 and expecting his employees to act as _glusjqTpCk-00016-00004200-00004613 though work fueled by burnout leads to _glusjqTpCk-00017-00004614-00004822 Peak Performance and great business _glusjqTpCk-00018-00004823-00005141 results and we see that it doesn't we _glusjqTpCk-00019-00005142-00005551 see a chaotic process of decision making _glusjqTpCk-00020-00005552-00005993 which clearly is not benefiting Twitter _glusjqTpCk-00021-00005994-00006299 and it's obviously not benefiting Tesla _glusjqTpCk-00022-00006300-00006617 because to Ed's point about why is Tesla _glusjqTpCk-00023-00006618-00006995 stock down there's no question that Elon _glusjqTpCk-00024-00006995-00007253 Musk is the genius behind Tesla when _glusjqTpCk-00025-00007254-00007534 that genius is distracted by auctioning _glusjqTpCk-00026-00007536-00007798 espresso machines from Twitter and _glusjqTpCk-00027-00007800-00008074 moving beds into conference rooms and _glusjqTpCk-00028-00008075-00008345 trolling fauci on Twitter _glusjqTpCk-00029-00008346-00008627 if our investor in Tesla I would be _glusjqTpCk-00030-00008628-00008855 worried about why isn't he focusing on _glusjqTpCk-00031-00008856-00009131 Tesla especially during a time of _glusjqTpCk-00032-00009132-00009383 growing competition what's interesting _glusjqTpCk-00033-00009384-00009671 is this sort of hero status _glusjqTpCk-00034-00009672-00009959 of sleeping in the office of I mean son _glusjqTpCk-00035-00009960-00010096 Batman freed who we're about to talk _glusjqTpCk-00036-00010097-00010259 about much more in terms of crypto world _glusjqTpCk-00037-00010260-00010577 falling asleep on bean bags and almost _glusjqTpCk-00038-00010578-00010745 it being something that they wanted to _glusjqTpCk-00039-00010746-00010937 show the VCS and the potential investors _glusjqTpCk-00040-00010938-00011206 look how then Dynamic and and focused as _glusjqTpCk-00041-00011207-00011369 he is the minute he wakes up and comes _glusjqTpCk-00042-00011370-00011578 to give you a pitch when can we stop _glusjqTpCk-00043-00011579-00011801 having this sort of idea of cultish _glusjqTpCk-00044-00011802-00012023 fanaticism around certain people and an _glusjqTpCk-00045-00012024-00012185 ability to do it all at about two hours _glusjqTpCk-00046-00012186-00012413 sleep well actually the majority of the _glusjqTpCk-00047-00012414-00012605 world has stopped that's what is so _glusjqTpCk-00048-00012606-00012880 fascinating especially because of the _glusjqTpCk-00049-00012881-00013163 pandemic we went from sleep deprivation _glusjqTpCk-00050-00013163-00013511 exhaustion burnout few world work being _glusjqTpCk-00051-00013512-00013841 a badge of honor and celebrated to the _glusjqTpCk-00052-00013841-00014105 opposite I mean we have major CEOs now _glusjqTpCk-00053-00014106-00014465 including Satya Nutella and Jeff Bezos _glusjqTpCk-00054-00014466-00014686 when he was CEO of Amazon talking about _glusjqTpCk-00055-00014687-00014938 getting eight hours of sleep we have _glusjqTpCk-00056-00014940-00015238 major elite athletes like LeBron James _glusjqTpCk-00057-00015240-00015538 and Tom Brady and Roger Federer talking _glusjqTpCk-00058-00015540-00015815 about the importance of recovery _glusjqTpCk-00059-00015816-00016061 four Peak Performance and all these _glusjqTpCk-00060-00016062-00016319 people are very hard working Caroline I _glusjqTpCk-00061-00016319-00016480 want to stress this is not about not _glusjqTpCk-00062-00016481-00016711 working hard it's about working smart _glusjqTpCk-00063-00016712-00017003 and not having the diminishing returns _glusjqTpCk-00064-00017004-00017243 we've all experienced when we're _glusjqTpCk-00065-00017244-00017465 exhausted and burned out and running on _glusjqTpCk-00066-00017466-00017813 empty and so the science and the data _glusjqTpCk-00067-00017814-00018065 are so unequivocal and that's what I _glusjqTpCk-00068-00018066-00018221 find fascinating because I'm a big _glusjqTpCk-00069-00018222-00018436 admirer of Elon musk's he's _glusjqTpCk-00070-00018437-00018743 unquestionably a genius so somebody who _glusjqTpCk-00071-00018744-00019007 understands so perfectly _glusjqTpCk-00072-00019008-00019361 energy renewable energy when it comes to _glusjqTpCk-00073-00019362-00019799 cars is missing out is actually using _glusjqTpCk-00074-00019800-00020075 incredibly outdated modes of human _glusjqTpCk-00075-00020076-00020344 energy when it comes to how he wants to _glusjqTpCk-00076-00020345-00020561 run his businesses _glusjqTpCk-00077-00020562-00020700 Ariana _glusjqTpCk-00078-00020701-00021011 must not just going back to his Playbook _glusjqTpCk-00079-00021012-00021214 I want to bring up something you said in _glusjqTpCk-00080-00021215-00021425 your op-ed that he's showing the _glusjqTpCk-00081-00021426-00021761 downsides of a model fueled by burnout _glusjqTpCk-00082-00021762-00021989 and lack of sleep in his own decision _glusjqTpCk-00083-00021990-00022180 making and that made me think about the _glusjqTpCk-00084-00022181-00022486 reporting from 2018 when musk said he _glusjqTpCk-00085-00022487-00022708 was sleeping on the production line with _glusjqTpCk-00086-00022709-00022943 his Engineers you know he does have a _glusjqTpCk-00087-00022944-00023243 good track record of getting these _glusjqTpCk-00088-00023244-00023483 companies be it Tesla be it SpaceX _glusjqTpCk-00089-00023484-00023753 through moments of duress and you look _glusjqTpCk-00090-00023754-00023957 at those two companies now they are the _glusjqTpCk-00091-00023958-00024191 clear market incumbents for both _glusjqTpCk-00092-00024192-00024394 electric vehicles _glusjqTpCk-00093-00024395-00024664 and commercial space launch _glusjqTpCk-00094-00024665-00024917 absolutely and I think two things have _glusjqTpCk-00095-00024918-00025186 happened one the culture has moved on _glusjqTpCk-00096-00025187-00025433 the pandemic has dramatically _glusjqTpCk-00097-00025434-00025811 accelerated the cultural shift away from _glusjqTpCk-00098-00025812-00026134 celebrating as Caroline was saying burn _glusjqTpCk-00099-00026135-00026495 out and wearing it as a badge of success _glusjqTpCk-00100-00026495-00026914 when Elon Musk asked his Twitter _glusjqTpCk-00101-00026916-00027245 employees to commit to a hardcore _glusjqTpCk-00102-00027245-00027508 intense way of working 1200 of them _glusjqTpCk-00103-00027510-00027823 resigned that would not have happened in _glusjqTpCk-00104-00027824-00028090 2018. what happened with the pandemic is _glusjqTpCk-00105-00028091-00028349 that people looked at their lives and _glusjqTpCk-00106-00028350-00028679 what do they value and millions of _glusjqTpCk-00107-00028680-00028918 people said we value hard work we value _glusjqTpCk-00108-00028919-00029218 being completely engaged by our work but _glusjqTpCk-00109-00029219-00029429 we also don't want to be defined by our _glusjqTpCk-00110-00029430-00029729 work and we want to be able to also _glusjqTpCk-00111-00029730-00029957 prioritize our own health and well-being _glusjqTpCk-00112-00029958-00030262 so that's the moment we are in right now _glusjqTpCk-00113-00030263-00030624 and I have no doubt that a villain mask _glusjqTpCk-00114-00030625-00031087 started applying that scientific clear _glusjqTpCk-00115-00031088-00031468 data point around how to best work and _glusjqTpCk-00116-00031469-00031685 Achieve business results he would be _glusjqTpCk-00117-00031686-00031961 even more phenomenally amazing across _glusjqTpCk-00118-00031962-00032123 all his companies _glusjqTpCk-00119-00032124-00032429 Ariana you've been a board member and an _glusjqTpCk-00120-00032430-00032645 executive a leader at a number of _glusjqTpCk-00121-00032645-00032902 companies technology sector and in media _glusjqTpCk-00122-00032903-00033257 give me some concrete proposals that you _glusjqTpCk-00123-00033258-00033521 think Elon Musk should put into play to _glusjqTpCk-00124-00033522-00033815 fix the situation at Twitter to improve _glusjqTpCk-00125-00033816-00033983 performance of Tesla what advice would _glusjqTpCk-00126-00033984-00034367 you give him then to change what has _glusjqTpCk-00127-00034368-00034517 been the case so far _glusjqTpCk-00128-00034518-00034757 well the first thing is along the lines _glusjqTpCk-00129-00034758-00034943 of what we're discussing kind of _glusjqTpCk-00130-00034944-00035165 recognizing that he is going to make _glusjqTpCk-00131-00035166-00035327 better decisions _glusjqTpCk-00132-00035328-00035621 when he's not running on empty when he's _glusjqTpCk-00133-00035622-00035885 not exhausted and to get a good night's _glusjqTpCk-00134-00035886-00036089 sleep in other words get a good night's _glusjqTpCk-00135-00036090-00036335 sleep recharge work hard he's always _glusjqTpCk-00136-00036336-00036496 going to work hard you work hard _glusjqTpCk-00137-00036497-00036683 Caroline works hard I work hard that's _glusjqTpCk-00138-00036684-00036862 kind of table Stakes _glusjqTpCk-00139-00036863-00037235 but we all know also that our work _glusjqTpCk-00140-00037236-00037589 depends on judgment and his um work and _glusjqTpCk-00141-00037590-00037799 his achievement and what he does for his _glusjqTpCk-00142-00037800-00038033 companies depends on the quality of his _glusjqTpCk-00143-00038034-00038374 decisions and look at the quality of his _glusjqTpCk-00144-00038375-00038573 decision has not been good there have _glusjqTpCk-00145-00038574-00038855 been so many reversals and there's been _glusjqTpCk-00146-00038856-00039143 kind of so much trolling _glusjqTpCk-00147-00039144-00039455 um of figures the Twitter files and all _glusjqTpCk-00148-00039456-00039733 that and that's all a huge distraction _glusjqTpCk-00149-00039734-00040157 and that really is my big hope that he _glusjqTpCk-00150-00040158-00040673 recognizes uh how much more effective he _glusjqTpCk-00151-00040674-00040889 would be as a leader and how much better _glusjqTpCk-00152-00040890-00041152 the business results would be if he _glusjqTpCk-00153-00041153-00041501 looked at the science and data of Peak _glusjqTpCk-00154-00041502-00041711 Performance Ariana what's interesting is _glusjqTpCk-00155-00041712-00041885 Ed mentions there your expertise having _glusjqTpCk-00156-00041886-00042077 been a board member of uber for example _glusjqTpCk-00157-00042078-00042365 and holding Executives to account making _glusjqTpCk-00158-00042366-00042490 sure that there is the right corporate _glusjqTpCk-00159-00042491-00042707 governance in place many might look at _glusjqTpCk-00160-00042708-00042845 two of these two leaders you single out _glusjqTpCk-00161-00042846-00043157 in Elon musk's sub magnet Fred that they _glusjqTpCk-00162-00043158-00043301 either have people on their boards who _glusjqTpCk-00163-00043302-00043462 are perhaps yes people or they don't _glusjqTpCk-00164-00043463-00043637 really have much of a board at all do _glusjqTpCk-00165-00043638-00043787 you think as we head to some sort of _glusjqTpCk-00166-00043788-00043961 economic slowdown and a downturn people _glusjqTpCk-00167-00043962-00044165 will put more focus on corporate _glusjqTpCk-00168-00044166-00044417 governance oh absolutely I mean it's _glusjqTpCk-00169-00044418-00044765 actually stunning that FDX did not have _glusjqTpCk-00170-00044766-00045118 a board isn't it stunning but _glusjqTpCk-00171-00045119-00045389 um you know major VCS invested in a _glusjqTpCk-00172-00045390-00045611 company without a board I mean I know at _glusjqTpCk-00173-00045612-00045845 Uber actually I saw firsthand the _glusjqTpCk-00174-00045846-00046229 dangers of Bernard and the decisions it _glusjqTpCk-00175-00046230-00046552 led to that almost brought down the _glusjqTpCk-00176-00046553-00046877 company and we saw what happened with _glusjqTpCk-00177-00046878-00047224 FDX so we have so many examples that is _glusjqTpCk-00178-00047225-00047585 now time to stop celebrating an outmoded _glusjqTpCk-00179-00047586-00047801 way of working actually Caroline I've _glusjqTpCk-00180-00047802-00048017 looked at where this started and it goes _glusjqTpCk-00181-00048018-00048293 back to the Industrial Revolution when _glusjqTpCk-00182-00048294-00048485 we're kind of we've started revering _glusjqTpCk-00183-00048486-00048701 machines and the gold with machines is _glusjqTpCk-00184-00048702-00048940 to minimize downtime and that's the same _glusjqTpCk-00185-00048941-00049180 goal with software but for the human _glusjqTpCk-00186-00049181-00049535 operating system downtime is not a bug _glusjqTpCk-00187-00049536-00049805 it's a feature and once we accept that _glusjqTpCk-00188-00049806-00050074 it changes the way we run businesses I _glusjqTpCk-00189-00050075-00050224 mean goodness we structure our Monday to _glusjqTpCk-00190-00050225-00050417 Friday almost in a way that was when _glusjqTpCk-00191-00050418-00050693 Henry Ford first was pioneering it is in _glusjqTpCk-00192-00050694-00050890 many ways backdated I'm interested in _glusjqTpCk-00193-00050891-00051077 your expertise not only the common _glusjqTpCk-00194-00051078-00051238 governance and your experience but also _glusjqTpCk-00195-00051239-00051449 as a woman who led the charge in the in _glusjqTpCk-00196-00051450-00051604 a new form of media _glusjqTpCk-00197-00051605-00051844 you must be fascinated to watch what _glusjqTpCk-00198-00051845-00052030 Twitter is doing as a new form of media _glusjqTpCk-00199-00052032-00052223 in a way citizen journalism we all call _glusjqTpCk-00200-00052224-00052408 it how are you seeing how do you think _glusjqTpCk-00201-00052409-00052666 that landscape will evolve well what is _glusjqTpCk-00202-00052667-00052841 amazing now is that when I launched the _glusjqTpCk-00203-00052841-00053092 Huffington Post 2005 before you were _glusjqTpCk-00204-00053094-00053423 born Caroline I wish and you know we the _glusjqTpCk-00205-00053424-00053692 the focus and the vision was to _glusjqTpCk-00206-00053694-00053999 democratize Media yeah now we've seen _glusjqTpCk-00207-00054000-00054232 you know the democratization of media _glusjqTpCk-00208-00054233-00054461 and there is a lot of great stuff about _glusjqTpCk-00209-00054462-00054726 it but I've also seen _glusjqTpCk-00210-00054727-00055132 how people gathering around just what _glusjqTpCk-00211-00055133-00055385 they believe the whole danger of _glusjqTpCk-00212-00055386-00055625 confirmation bias and only reading _glusjqTpCk-00213-00055626-00055859 things that you agree with is a _glusjqTpCk-00214-00055860-00056188 tremendous danger for democracy and for _glusjqTpCk-00215-00056189-00056447 the truth _glusjqTpCk-00216-00056448-00056669 do you think Ariana _glusjqTpCk-00217-00056670-00057119 no sorry Carrie just on on that line _glusjqTpCk-00218-00057120-00057479 I still find Twitter to be a a chaotic _glusjqTpCk-00219-00057479-00057694 experience you know I when I use the _glusjqTpCk-00220-00057695-00057911 platform I can't tell if it's improved _glusjqTpCk-00221-00057912-00058126 or if it's got worse it's certainly _glusjqTpCk-00222-00058127-00058450 changing what is your kind of view on _glusjqTpCk-00223-00058451-00058703 the platform itself the the content that _glusjqTpCk-00224-00058704-00058919 gets generated from it the news that _glusjqTpCk-00225-00058920-00059075 spreads through it _glusjqTpCk-00226-00059076-00059363 well it's definitely changing but when _glusjqTpCk-00227-00059364-00059647 you don't know how far um it will change _glusjqTpCk-00228-00059648-00059819 I think _glusjqTpCk-00229-00059820-00060119 it's interesting that the Elon Musk _glusjqTpCk-00230-00060120-00060371 still agrees that some people should be _glusjqTpCk-00231-00060372-00060665 banned it's just that he may think the _glusjqTpCk-00232-00060666-00060850 people he would ban are different maybe _glusjqTpCk-00233-00060851-00061061 than the people you would ban or I would 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_glusjqTpCk-00261-00066204-00066394 been allowed to grow have been growing _glusjqTpCk-00262-00066395-00066641 the way in which we now look at a slower _glusjqTpCk-00263-00066642-00066767 economy _glusjqTpCk-00264-00066768-00066929 are you still positive on Innovation and _glusjqTpCk-00265-00066930-00067144 on leadership within that oh absolutely _glusjqTpCk-00266-00067145-00067379 I'm incredibly positive you know we work _glusjqTpCk-00267-00067380-00067661 a Thrive with hundreds of companies _glusjqTpCk-00268-00067662-00068003 around the world and we have seen that _glusjqTpCk-00269-00068004-00068326 the crisis of the pandemic has been used _glusjqTpCk-00270-00068327-00068681 as a catalyst for fundamental change in _glusjqTpCk-00271-00068682-00068938 the way workplaces are run in the way _glusjqTpCk-00272-00068939-00069221 employee well-being is prioritized and _glusjqTpCk-00273-00069222-00069443 actually seeing the result in business _glusjqTpCk-00274-00069444-00069719 metrics so that makes me incredibly _glusjqTpCk-00275-00069720-00069976 honest because the pendulum swings so as _glusjqTpCk-00276-00069977-00070205 we start to see perhaps the pendulum go _glusjqTpCk-00277-00070206-00070475 from employee to employer absolutely in _glusjqTpCk-00278-00070476-00070709 fact even though there are layoffs and _glusjqTpCk-00279-00070710-00070967 even though they're hiring freezes and _glusjqTpCk-00280-00070968-00071279 we have gathered over a hundred major _glusjqTpCk-00281-00071280-00071663 companies and to take a pledge a mental _glusjqTpCk-00282-00071664-00071855 health pledge that they are not going to _glusjqTpCk-00283-00071856-00072149 regress when it comes to investing in _glusjqTpCk-00284-00072150-00072293 the mental health and well-being of _glusjqTpCk-00285-00072294-00072532 their employees because Carolina that as _glusjqTpCk-00286-00072533-00072755 you know we have a huge Mental Health _glusjqTpCk-00287-00072756-00073087 crisis it's in a way the second 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terminal I'd wanna Rudin Campea Tommy in _nHlO24edYM-00073-00022378-00022656 attica busca la una Francois Polly who _nHlO24edYM-00074-00022657-00022899 scale quantum number Missouri as the T _nHlO24edYM-00075-00022900-00023064 Ortiz were doing their work they were _nHlO24edYM-00076-00023065-00023225 faced with a few challenges _nHlO24edYM-00077-00023226-00023442 Jaqueline for example would not be _nHlO24edYM-00078-00023443-00023675 allowed to talk in some sessions because _nHlO24edYM-00079-00023676-00023969 she was a woman in some scenarios she _nHlO24edYM-00080-00023970-00024180 was beaten by the community members _nHlO24edYM-00081-00024181-00024390 she has since reported an assault case _nHlO24edYM-00082-00024391-00024606 with a police she is following this up _nHlO24edYM-00083-00024607-00024885 so that her incidents doesn't create a _nHlO24edYM-00084-00024886-00025122 trend where female gender activists are _nHlO24edYM-00085-00025123-00025789 assaulted by going in Owatonna pica _nHlO24edYM-00086-00025791-00026133 suburban area to type Luke I'm watching _nHlO24edYM-00087-00026133-00026349 me Jimmy are March though there is _nHlO24edYM-00088-00026350-00026601 progress in gender awareness it is clear _nHlO24edYM-00089-00026602-00026757 that more work needs to be done in _nHlO24edYM-00090-00026758-00026979 particular there is need to safeguard _nHlO24edYM-00091-00026980-00027218 against any hostilities and personal _nHlO24edYM-00092-00027219-00027468 risks that women trainers of trainers _nHlO24edYM-00093-00027469-00027743 face there is also need to cultivate _nHlO24edYM-00094-00027744-00027957 more male champions of women's _nHlO24edYM-00095-00027958-00028167 empowerment such as assistant chief _nHlO24edYM-00096-00028168-00028547 Phillip Cholula _nLovSXRLZU-00000-00000160-00000769 [Music] _nLovSXRLZU-00001-00000770-00001247 [Music] _nLovSXRLZU-00002-00001248-00001439 welcome back to our med smarter question _nLovSXRLZU-00003-00001440-00001607 of the week where we're taking a smarter _nLovSXRLZU-00004-00001607-00001847 approach to preparing future physicians _nLovSXRLZU-00005-00001848-00002014 before we get started if you'll take _nLovSXRLZU-00006-00002016-00002231 just a quick minute and click that like _nLovSXRLZU-00007-00002232-00002463 button and also subscribe and turn the _nLovSXRLZU-00008-00002464-00002647 bell on so you'll be notified when we _nLovSXRLZU-00009-00002648-00002887 post new videos let's get into a reno _nLovSXRLZU-00010-00002888-00003134 question today _nLovSXRLZU-00011-00003135-00003359 as always we start with the last _nLovSXRLZU-00012-00003360-00003590 sentence of the vignette before we read _nLovSXRLZU-00013-00003592-00003743 the rest so that we know what this is _nLovSXRLZU-00014-00003744-00003919 asking us _nLovSXRLZU-00015-00003920-00004095 which of the following is the most _nLovSXRLZU-00016-00004096-00004303 appropriate treatment _nLovSXRLZU-00017-00004304-00004511 a 43 year old man is hospitalized with _nLovSXRLZU-00018-00004512-00004783 hypovolemic shock after massive blood _nLovSXRLZU-00019-00004784-00004999 loss in a motor vehicle accident on the _nLovSXRLZU-00020-00005000-00005199 patient's second day in the hospital his _nLovSXRLZU-00021-00005200-00005463 blood urea nitrogen or bun and _nLovSXRLZU-00022-00005464-00005679 creatinine levels begin to rise and he _nLovSXRLZU-00023-00005680-00005983 develops pitting edema up to his knees _nLovSXRLZU-00024-00005984-00006254 a subsequent urinalysis shows numerous _nLovSXRLZU-00025-00006255-00006463 granular casts _nLovSXRLZU-00026-00006464-00006598 so which of the following is the most _nLovSXRLZU-00027-00006600-00006798 appropriate treatment so the most _nLovSXRLZU-00028-00006800-00007006 important thing to note in this question _nLovSXRLZU-00029-00007008-00007214 is that a patient had hypovolemic shock _nLovSXRLZU-00030-00007215-00007423 because of massive blood loss _nLovSXRLZU-00031-00007423-00007639 so when you have massive blood loss we _nLovSXRLZU-00032-00007640-00007774 have less _nLovSXRLZU-00033-00007775-00008014 blood and nutrients and oxygen that's _nLovSXRLZU-00034-00008015-00008239 able to get to some of the tissues so _nLovSXRLZU-00035-00008240-00008431 when we see blood urea nitrogen and _nLovSXRLZU-00036-00008432-00008791 creatinine levels begin to rise _nLovSXRLZU-00037-00008792-00009055 and then we see these numerous granular _nLovSXRLZU-00038-00009056-00009335 casts show up on their urinalysis that _nLovSXRLZU-00039-00009336-00009495 tells me this patient's undergoing _nLovSXRLZU-00040-00009496-00009806 what's known as acute tubular necrosis _nLovSXRLZU-00041-00009807-00009983 so what we're needing to know now is _nLovSXRLZU-00042-00009984-00010255 what is the best treatment or the most _nLovSXRLZU-00043-00010256-00010542 appropriate treatment for a patient that _nLovSXRLZU-00044-00010543-00010783 is currently undergoing acute tubular _nLovSXRLZU-00045-00010784-00010974 necrosis so let's look at those answer _nLovSXRLZU-00046-00010975-00011167 choices _nLovSXRLZU-00047-00011168-00011446 broad spectrum antibiotics a _nLovSXRLZU-00048-00011447-00011670 b corticosteroids _nLovSXRLZU-00049-00011671-00011759 c _nLovSXRLZU-00050-00011760-00011951 fluids and dialysis _nLovSXRLZU-00051-00011952-00012270 d angioplasty or e _nLovSXRLZU-00052-00012271-00012623 use of ultrasound to remove blockage _nLovSXRLZU-00053-00012624-00012751 take a minute _nLovSXRLZU-00054-00012752-00012879 read through the question and answer _nLovSXRLZU-00055-00012880-00013007 choices again _nLovSXRLZU-00056-00013008-00013191 come up with your answer and put it in _nLovSXRLZU-00057-00013191-00013383 the comment box below _nLovSXRLZU-00058-00013384-00013599 well first and foremost because we _nLovSXRLZU-00059-00013600-00013727 already have determined that this is _nLovSXRLZU-00060-00013728-00013966 acute tubular necrosis that can help us _nLovSXRLZU-00061-00013968-00014166 eliminate some of these _nLovSXRLZU-00062-00014168-00014327 answer choices _nLovSXRLZU-00063-00014328-00014463 so i'm going to go ahead and eliminate _nLovSXRLZU-00064-00014463-00014655 answer choice a because acute tubular _nLovSXRLZU-00065-00014656-00014927 necrosis isn't due to an infection _nLovSXRLZU-00066-00014928-00015199 this is actually due to _nLovSXRLZU-00067-00015200-00015486 loss of blood and hypovolemia so there's _nLovSXRLZU-00068-00015487-00015686 no infection we need to clear up i would _nLovSXRLZU-00069-00015687-00015903 also note that if we do give them _nLovSXRLZU-00070-00015904-00016038 antibiotics _nLovSXRLZU-00071-00016040-00016263 a lot of times those antibiotics require _nLovSXRLZU-00072-00016263-00016350 renal _nLovSXRLZU-00073-00016351-00016455 clearance _nLovSXRLZU-00074-00016456-00016799 so using medications like this could _nLovSXRLZU-00075-00016800-00017015 cause more problems for those that are _nLovSXRLZU-00076-00017016-00017199 metabolized by the kidney _nLovSXRLZU-00077-00017200-00017375 i'm going to leave b in for the time _nLovSXRLZU-00078-00017376-00017494 being _nLovSXRLZU-00079-00017495-00017663 i'm going to leave c in for the time _nLovSXRLZU-00080-00017664-00017791 being _nLovSXRLZU-00081-00017792-00018022 d angioplasty we don't need to go in and _nLovSXRLZU-00082-00018023-00018271 revascularize any of the arteries in the _nLovSXRLZU-00083-00018272-00018391 kidneys because that's not what our _nLovSXRLZU-00084-00018392-00018663 problem is so d is going to be a choice _nLovSXRLZU-00085-00018664-00018807 eliminated _nLovSXRLZU-00086-00018808-00019014 and then e use of ultrasound to remove _nLovSXRLZU-00087-00019015-00019150 blockage _nLovSXRLZU-00088-00019151-00019294 we've already determined acute tubes and _nLovSXRLZU-00089-00019295-00019486 necrosis that doesn't have a blockage so _nLovSXRLZU-00090-00019487-00019719 we're going to eliminate that choice as _nLovSXRLZU-00091-00019720-00020063 well so that leaves us down to choice b _nLovSXRLZU-00092-00020064-00020222 in choice c _nLovSXRLZU-00093-00020223-00020375 and we're asking for what the most _nLovSXRLZU-00094-00020376-00020614 appropriate treatment is well i know _nLovSXRLZU-00095-00020615-00020847 corticosteroids can be used _nLovSXRLZU-00096-00020848-00020935 for _nLovSXRLZU-00097-00020936-00021158 acute renal failure but that's really _nLovSXRLZU-00098-00021159-00021343 more going to be associated with immune _nLovSXRLZU-00099-00021344-00021694 mediated disease rather than hypovolemic _nLovSXRLZU-00100-00021695-00021991 problems we wouldn't use corticosteroids _nLovSXRLZU-00101-00021992-00022175 in this instance because that's a _nLovSXRLZU-00102-00022176-00022478 different type of renal failure so in _nLovSXRLZU-00103-00022479-00022622 that case my choice is going to be _nLovSXRLZU-00104-00022623-00022967 answer choice c fluids and dialysis _nLovSXRLZU-00105-00022968-00023214 and c is the correct answer so like we _nLovSXRLZU-00106-00023215-00023463 said this patient is dealing with acute _nLovSXRLZU-00107-00023464-00023742 tubular necrosis or atn this is because _nLovSXRLZU-00108-00023743-00023958 of that ischemia that happened during _nLovSXRLZU-00109-00023959-00024094 that motor vehicle accident and the _nLovSXRLZU-00110-00024095-00024311 massive blood loss _nLovSXRLZU-00111-00024312-00024542 the problem here that we're having is _nLovSXRLZU-00112-00024543-00024727 acute tubular necrosis of our _nLovSXRLZU-00113-00024728-00024983 specifically of our epithelial cells in _nLovSXRLZU-00114-00024984-00025278 the proximal convoluted tubule a key _nLovSXRLZU-00115-00025279-00025439 buzzword for us _nLovSXRLZU-00116-00025440-00025678 to think acute tubular necrosis is going _nLovSXRLZU-00117-00025679-00025774 to be _nLovSXRLZU-00118-00025775-00026087 those numerous granular casts those _nLovSXRLZU-00119-00026088-00026390 numerous granular casts are a good sign _nLovSXRLZU-00120-00026391-00026543 that we are dealing with acute tubular _nLovSXRLZU-00121-00026544-00026702 necrosis _nLovSXRLZU-00122-00026704-00026839 so what we're going to do with this _nLovSXRLZU-00123-00026839-00027183 patient is to correct that fluid _nLovSXRLZU-00124-00027183-00027487 loss and try and bring back the fluid _nLovSXRLZU-00125-00027488-00027718 balance and the electrolyte balance into _nLovSXRLZU-00126-00027719-00027958 the body so where fluid placement should _nLovSXRLZU-00127-00027960-00028199 be started and it should use crystalloid _nLovSXRLZU-00128-00028200-00028455 like normal saline or lactated ringers _nLovSXRLZU-00129-00028456-00028662 as well as some of our blood products _nLovSXRLZU-00130-00028663-00028870 because we had lost so much blood we do _nLovSXRLZU-00131-00028872-00029007 need to replace some of those blood _nLovSXRLZU-00132-00029008-00029223 products as well and then _nLovSXRLZU-00133-00029224-00029318 if _nLovSXRLZU-00134-00029319-00029511 we don't see much recovery of our renal _nLovSXRLZU-00135-00029512-00029655 function immediately _nLovSXRLZU-00136-00029656-00029807 then we will definitely move on into _nLovSXRLZU-00137-00029808-00030046 dialysis so fluids and dialysis is _nLovSXRLZU-00138-00030047-00030207 typically going to be indicated in these _nLovSXRLZU-00139-00030208-00030335 patients _nLovSXRLZU-00140-00030336-00030567 until the kidneys could recover if they _nLovSXRLZU-00141-00030568-00030743 do recover this could be something that _nLovSXRLZU-00142-00030744-00030967 could take a few weeks hopefully and not _nLovSXRLZU-00143-00030968-00031095 something permanent but there is a _nLovSXRLZU-00144-00031095-00031270 chance that this could cause some _nLovSXRLZU-00145-00031272-00031431 permanent damage _nLovSXRLZU-00146-00031432-00031590 if you found this material helpful for _nLovSXRLZU-00147-00031591-00031711 your studying _nLovSXRLZU-00148-00031712-00031927 please like and consider subscribing to _nLovSXRLZU-00149-00031927-00032167 the channel also share this video so _nLovSXRLZU-00150-00032168-00032343 that more people can benefit from it _nLovSXRLZU-00151-00032344-00032564 like you have _nLovSXRLZU-00152-00032564-00033407 [Music] AootBPgiiac-00000-00000009-00000551 [Music] AootBPgiiac-00001-00000552-00000711 all right hi i'm daniel carpenter i'm AootBPgiiac-00002-00000712-00000919 the agriculture extension agent uh in AootBPgiiac-00003-00000919-00001199 larue county and and go ahead morgan AootBPgiiac-00004-00001200-00001423 hayes i'm uh an assistant professor in AootBPgiiac-00005-00001424-00001671 biosystems and ag engineering AootBPgiiac-00006-00001672-00001855 and basically what we've got here today AootBPgiiac-00007-00001855-00001951 is a AootBPgiiac-00008-00001952-00002350 an on-farm off-grid solar display AootBPgiiac-00009-00002351-00002623 just a basic AootBPgiiac-00010-00002624-00002750 installation of what you would need to AootBPgiiac-00011-00002751-00003047 do some to power some stuff with solar AootBPgiiac-00012-00003048-00003295 it may not be for everybody but we do AootBPgiiac-00013-00003296-00003463 think it has a place on some farms AootBPgiiac-00014-00003464-00003606 especially those farms maybe where you AootBPgiiac-00015-00003607-00003751 don't have AootBPgiiac-00016-00003752-00004038 electricity already ran to a building or AootBPgiiac-00017-00004039-00004151 a farm AootBPgiiac-00018-00004152-00004303 could be an option if you're if you're AootBPgiiac-00019-00004304-00004438 just powering a few AootBPgiiac-00020-00004439-00004686 small things um AootBPgiiac-00021-00004687-00004822 so i guess maybe we should talk about AootBPgiiac-00022-00004823-00005054 what all we've got here absolutely AootBPgiiac-00023-00005055-00005238 basically you go ahead let's start at AootBPgiiac-00024-00005239-00005454 the top here these are our solar panels AootBPgiiac-00025-00005455-00005647 these are basically what take power from AootBPgiiac-00026-00005648-00005838 the sun and create electrical energy AootBPgiiac-00027-00005839-00005943 from them AootBPgiiac-00028-00005944-00006111 and we have two panels here obviously AootBPgiiac-00029-00006112-00006327 they're set up for the display typically AootBPgiiac-00030-00006328-00006486 you would orient these to have a south AootBPgiiac-00031-00006487-00006639 face so that they could receive the most AootBPgiiac-00032-00006640-00006919 sunlight and produce the most power AootBPgiiac-00033-00006920-00007039 and you want to talk a little bit about AootBPgiiac-00034-00007040-00007287 how large we have yeah these are AootBPgiiac-00035-00007288-00007559 390 watt panels uh that's some and AootBPgiiac-00036-00007559-00007695 monocrystalline panel so that's AootBPgiiac-00037-00007695-00007855 something to keep in mind whenever you AootBPgiiac-00038-00007856-00008031 uh whenever you're shopping around or AootBPgiiac-00039-00008031-00008159 looking make sure you look at that AootBPgiiac-00040-00008159-00008271 wattage AootBPgiiac-00041-00008272-00008446 or if you're looking at an actual panel AootBPgiiac-00042-00008447-00008671 there'll be a a sticker or an emblem on AootBPgiiac-00043-00008672-00008839 the back somewhere that'll show you that AootBPgiiac-00044-00008840-00009039 wattage so that you know what you're AootBPgiiac-00045-00009040-00009239 what you're buying and i think AootBPgiiac-00046-00009240-00009406 just to give you a kind of a ballpark AootBPgiiac-00047-00009407-00009687 estimate price on these was around 175 AootBPgiiac-00048-00009688-00009799 per panel AootBPgiiac-00049-00009800-00009942 so you know something in that ballpark AootBPgiiac-00050-00009943-00010167 for that size panel that's a pretty good AootBPgiiac-00051-00010168-00010383 price for for a panel that's almost 400 AootBPgiiac-00052-00010384-00010599 watts so you can shop around and find AootBPgiiac-00053-00010600-00010783 good prices one of the real benefits is AootBPgiiac-00054-00010784-00010983 that solar has come down in price in the AootBPgiiac-00055-00010984-00011174 last five to ten years and we really are AootBPgiiac-00056-00011175-00011310 starting to see AootBPgiiac-00057-00011311-00011638 more reliable long-term solar panels uh AootBPgiiac-00058-00011639-00011814 for more affordable costs which really AootBPgiiac-00059-00011815-00011999 makes the whole system make a lot of AootBPgiiac-00060-00012000-00012174 sense on farms that don't currently have AootBPgiiac-00061-00012175-00012438 electricity right AootBPgiiac-00062-00012439-00012703 so what's next we got our we also have a AootBPgiiac-00063-00012704-00012871 uh well we've got batteries that's AootBPgiiac-00064-00012872-00013038 that's probably the most one of the mo AootBPgiiac-00065-00013039-00013247 the next most important part of a of a AootBPgiiac-00066-00013247-00013486 solar installation what we have is two AootBPgiiac-00067-00013487-00013935 uh lead acid deep cell batteries um AootBPgiiac-00068-00013936-00014038 some you know i guess there's some AootBPgiiac-00069-00014040-00014263 lithium batteries out there too AootBPgiiac-00070-00014263-00014391 do you want to talk a little bit maybe AootBPgiiac-00071-00014391-00014551 about the differences between those sure AootBPgiiac-00072-00014552-00014775 so the the lead acid batteries are by AootBPgiiac-00073-00014776-00015015 far the cheapest option um they're also AootBPgiiac-00074-00015016-00015166 the most accessible they're ones that AootBPgiiac-00075-00015168-00015358 you can buy a lot of different places AootBPgiiac-00076-00015359-00015527 and a lot of people have them on their AootBPgiiac-00077-00015528-00015671 farm AootBPgiiac-00078-00015672-00015871 the lithium batteries handle heat and AootBPgiiac-00079-00015872-00015999 cold a little bit better if you have a AootBPgiiac-00080-00016000-00016166 lot of temperature swings AootBPgiiac-00081-00016168-00016335 they are more expensive but they do have AootBPgiiac-00082-00016336-00016599 a longer lifespan i'd say currently if AootBPgiiac-00083-00016600-00016743 you do price comparison i would have a AootBPgiiac-00084-00016744-00016967 hard time justifying lithium in some AootBPgiiac-00085-00016968-00017199 cases but the price on a lot of these AootBPgiiac-00086-00017200-00017367 batteries is also coming down so it's AootBPgiiac-00087-00017368-00017494 going to be interesting to see over the AootBPgiiac-00088-00017495-00017743 next couple years where those price out AootBPgiiac-00089-00017744-00017958 and what people choose to use on their AootBPgiiac-00090-00017959-00018135 farms yeah i'd say you know the push to AootBPgiiac-00091-00018136-00018222 the AootBPgiiac-00092-00018223-00018367 electric vehicles and they're using AootBPgiiac-00093-00018368-00018486 those lithium batteries there'll be more AootBPgiiac-00094-00018487-00018655 and more of those produced as we as we AootBPgiiac-00095-00018656-00018775 move forward i'm sure they'll still AootBPgiiac-00096-00018776-00018975 start to come down in price uh we also AootBPgiiac-00097-00018976-00019319 have a a charge controller um which you AootBPgiiac-00098-00019320-00019479 know basically it AootBPgiiac-00099-00019480-00019679 correct me if i'm wrong here but it it AootBPgiiac-00100-00019680-00019807 kind of makes sure that the batteries AootBPgiiac-00101-00019808-00019943 stay charged AootBPgiiac-00102-00019944-00020143 regulates the electricity kind of helps AootBPgiiac-00103-00020144-00020294 to get it from the panels to the battery AootBPgiiac-00104-00020295-00020503 and not overcharge the batteries that's AootBPgiiac-00105-00020504-00020791 right a very important part AootBPgiiac-00106-00020792-00020967 and then and then the next part is a is AootBPgiiac-00107-00020968-00021103 the inverter i guess that's the last AootBPgiiac-00108-00021104-00021214 thing that we do that's what we plug AootBPgiiac-00109-00021215-00021463 into to get our power um what the one AootBPgiiac-00110-00021464-00021622 that we have here is a thousand watt AootBPgiiac-00111-00021623-00021855 inverter uh morgan if we have let's say AootBPgiiac-00112-00021856-00022014 if we have a thousand watt inverter what AootBPgiiac-00113-00022015-00022230 kind of what kind of things can we power AootBPgiiac-00114-00022231-00022350 if we're talking about that kind of AootBPgiiac-00115-00022351-00022599 wattage so a thousand watt inverter AootBPgiiac-00116-00022600-00022767 should give us about enough power to AootBPgiiac-00117-00022768-00023014 start up about a half horsepower motor AootBPgiiac-00118-00023015-00023278 so we have enough to do a small pump if AootBPgiiac-00119-00023279-00023422 you have a water pump AootBPgiiac-00120-00023423-00023567 you couldn't run it continuously on this AootBPgiiac-00121-00023568-00023775 system we don't have enough battery bank AootBPgiiac-00122-00023776-00023975 to store up power for that AootBPgiiac-00123-00023976-00024207 nor enough charger but it would give us AootBPgiiac-00124-00024208-00024407 enough to really run some small motors AootBPgiiac-00125-00024408-00024607 it would also easily charge an electric AootBPgiiac-00126-00024608-00024742 fence box AootBPgiiac-00127-00024743-00024927 lighting especially led lighting we're AootBPgiiac-00128-00024928-00025111 starting to see that with led lighting AootBPgiiac-00129-00025112-00025294 you could run quite a bit of lights AootBPgiiac-00130-00025295-00025503 we also here have an outlet on the side AootBPgiiac-00131-00025504-00025711 and you could easily charge some of your AootBPgiiac-00132-00025712-00025974 tools or even run some plug-in tools uh AootBPgiiac-00133-00025975-00026206 pretty easily with a system like this AootBPgiiac-00134-00026207-00026351 yeah even um AootBPgiiac-00135-00026352-00026455 you know like let's say if you had a AootBPgiiac-00136-00026456-00026655 scale for your cattle in that barn and AootBPgiiac-00137-00026656-00026774 you know be way you could power that a AootBPgiiac-00138-00026775-00026927 lot of things that we use that don't AootBPgiiac-00139-00026927-00027127 take a lot of electricity but we could AootBPgiiac-00140-00027127-00027262 do it with something like this rather AootBPgiiac-00141-00027263-00027423 than you know having the electric co-op AootBPgiiac-00142-00027424-00027646 come and run thousands of dollars of AootBPgiiac-00143-00027647-00027823 power lines to to get us power back AootBPgiiac-00144-00027824-00028062 there yeah um so a few things maybe we AootBPgiiac-00145-00028063-00028246 could do to add on to what we have you AootBPgiiac-00146-00028247-00028367 know you mentioned we only have a couple AootBPgiiac-00147-00028368-00028558 batteries we could easily add AootBPgiiac-00148-00028560-00028774 more batteries to this setup AootBPgiiac-00149-00028775-00028943 i think these batteries were probably in AootBPgiiac-00150-00028944-00029207 that 125 dollar range AootBPgiiac-00151-00029208-00029351 but adding more batteries would just get AootBPgiiac-00152-00029352-00029558 us more storage would allow us to to AootBPgiiac-00153-00029560-00029727 store a little more energy so if we were AootBPgiiac-00154-00029727-00029943 needing a lot of energy at night AootBPgiiac-00155-00029944-00030118 to maybe run security lights or things AootBPgiiac-00156-00030119-00030223 like that that would be definitely AootBPgiiac-00157-00030224-00030470 something that that we could do AootBPgiiac-00158-00030472-00030655 we also add more panels if we needed to AootBPgiiac-00159-00030656-00030807 recharge faster AootBPgiiac-00160-00030808-00030999 to this setup and then we could also add AootBPgiiac-00161-00031000-00031207 a larger inverter AootBPgiiac-00162-00031208-00031383 i think our total cost for this setup AootBPgiiac-00163-00031383-00031558 was right around twelve hundred dollars AootBPgiiac-00164-00031560-00031774 uh everything included so if you wanted AootBPgiiac-00165-00031775-00031943 to double it you basically you could AootBPgiiac-00166-00031944-00032046 double the power it's about going to AootBPgiiac-00167-00032047-00032190 double the price AootBPgiiac-00168-00032191-00032311 and same thing if you want to triple it AootBPgiiac-00169-00032312-00032423 and when you get that large you can AootBPgiiac-00170-00032424-00032646 really start to power some uh larger AootBPgiiac-00171-00032647-00032799 motors you know you can get up to that AootBPgiiac-00172-00032800-00033062 one horsepower motor range and um you AootBPgiiac-00173-00033063-00033199 know and do do AootBPgiiac-00174-00033200-00033367 you know air conditioner if you want to AootBPgiiac-00175-00033368-00033487 put an air conditioner in the building AootBPgiiac-00176-00033488-00033671 somewhere but doing things like that AootBPgiiac-00177-00033672-00033855 absolutely yeah i think this setup is AootBPgiiac-00178-00033856-00034079 perfect for on-farm use for smaller AootBPgiiac-00179-00034080-00034271 operations but you will see if you look AootBPgiiac-00180-00034272-00034439 at youtube and online that there's a lot AootBPgiiac-00181-00034440-00034615 of people looking to go off-grid with AootBPgiiac-00182-00034616-00034862 their houses small tiny houses things AootBPgiiac-00183-00034863-00035039 like that and that's where you see them AootBPgiiac-00184-00035040-00035343 sort of sizing up to a larger system i AootBPgiiac-00185-00035344-00035527 think this is probably a practical size AootBPgiiac-00186-00035528-00035774 though for most farm operations on this AootBPgiiac-00187-00035775-00035967 or maybe even one size down depending on AootBPgiiac-00188-00035968-00036102 what you're really trying to charge on AootBPgiiac-00189-00036103-00036207 the system AootBPgiiac-00190-00036208-00036439 just to also mention here in here we do AootBPgiiac-00191-00036440-00036639 have some safety precautions AootBPgiiac-00192-00036640-00036830 we do have the system grounded you would AootBPgiiac-00193-00036831-00037039 want to ground a system AootBPgiiac-00194-00037040-00037215 if you were setting this up long term in AootBPgiiac-00195-00037216-00037311 a barn AootBPgiiac-00196-00037312-00037574 also we do have AootBPgiiac-00197-00037575-00037751 some surge protection here between the AootBPgiiac-00198-00037752-00037943 inverter and the batteries and then we AootBPgiiac-00199-00037944-00038111 also have a AootBPgiiac-00200-00038112-00038359 um AootBPgiiac-00201-00038360-00038615 got an inline fuse that uh to regulate AootBPgiiac-00202-00038616-00038759 help regulate electricity from the AootBPgiiac-00203-00038760-00038951 charger to the battery and then it's AootBPgiiac-00204-00038952-00039127 also probably important to use gfci AootBPgiiac-00205-00039128-00039223 outlets with that because you're going AootBPgiiac-00206-00039224-00039390 to be around moisture AootBPgiiac-00207-00039391-00039574 very another important safety component AootBPgiiac-00208-00039575-00039846 to have with this and just just so you AootBPgiiac-00209-00039847-00039918 know AootBPgiiac-00210-00039919-00040087 everything from the solar panel up here AootBPgiiac-00211-00040088-00040399 to the inverter is running on dc so AootBPgiiac-00212-00040400-00040599 as you would know your bigger batteries AootBPgiiac-00213-00040600-00040759 are dc powered AootBPgiiac-00214-00040760-00040911 so you want to use components that are AootBPgiiac-00215-00040912-00041151 compatible with the dc system and then AootBPgiiac-00216-00041152-00041302 everything past the inverter would be AootBPgiiac-00217-00041303-00041471 very much similar to AootBPgiiac-00218-00041472-00041687 your electrical in your house so you're AootBPgiiac-00219-00041688-00041839 running the same sorts of things on this AootBPgiiac-00220-00041840-00042007 side from an ac perspective that you AootBPgiiac-00221-00042008-00042111 would see on the house so you want to AootBPgiiac-00222-00042112-00042255 use the right components because that's AootBPgiiac-00223-00042256-00042390 what's going to actually give you the AootBPgiiac-00224-00042391-00042518 protection AootBPgiiac-00225-00042519-00042735 from the fuse standpoint and and just AootBPgiiac-00226-00042736-00042918 generally from your wiring you're going AootBPgiiac-00227-00042919-00043039 to use a little bit different size AootBPgiiac-00228-00043040-00043223 wiring if you're running in a dc versus AootBPgiiac-00229-00043224-00043430 an ac system AootBPgiiac-00230-00043431-00043567 there's there's a lot of stuff there's a AootBPgiiac-00231-00043568-00043767 lot of information out there on on on AootBPgiiac-00232-00043768-00043974 these type of setups um i i would AootBPgiiac-00233-00043975-00044239 recommend it for me whenever uh i guess AootBPgiiac-00234-00044240-00044383 me and matt adams the hardin county AootBPgiiac-00235-00044384-00044502 extension agent spent a lot of time AootBPgiiac-00236-00044503-00044623 putting this together and we wanted to AootBPgiiac-00237-00044624-00044774 make sure that everything was kind of AootBPgiiac-00238-00044775-00044902 spread out so if you wanted to take a AootBPgiiac-00239-00044903-00045023 picture or something you should be able AootBPgiiac-00240-00045024-00045190 to kind of follow you know as you're AootBPgiiac-00241-00045191-00045295 wiring it up kind of follow the AootBPgiiac-00242-00045296-00045479 schematics that we've got here for for a AootBPgiiac-00243-00045480-00045623 simple setup like that but there is a AootBPgiiac-00244-00045624-00045807 lot of information out there if you AootBPgiiac-00245-00045808-00046015 watch enough youtube videos and i'm sure AootBPgiiac-00246-00046016-00046167 we'll probably have some pubs coming out AootBPgiiac-00247-00046168-00046318 in the future that'll AootBPgiiac-00248-00046319-00046471 sort of explain what all this does and AootBPgiiac-00249-00046472-00046615 what all the parts are and how to how to AootBPgiiac-00250-00046616-00046743 install it AootBPgiiac-00251-00046744-00047271 is there any questions AootBPgiiac-00252-00047272-00047439 anyone have a farm that they need power AootBPgiiac-00253-00047440-00047599 on that they don't currently have power AootBPgiiac-00254-00047600-00047799 on AootBPgiiac-00255-00047800-00047927 i know one of the reasons that we kind AootBPgiiac-00256-00047928-00048118 of went uh kind of went towards this is AootBPgiiac-00257-00048119-00048262 i have a few farmers in my county that AootBPgiiac-00258-00048263-00048423 have done this and put solar panels on AootBPgiiac-00259-00048424-00048607 barns for electricity AootBPgiiac-00260-00048608-00048799 i had a farmer that was uh he was AootBPgiiac-00261-00048800-00048983 leasing a farm and that's another thing AootBPgiiac-00262-00048984-00049102 about this you could you know if you AootBPgiiac-00263-00049103-00049199 didn't get too big you could take it AootBPgiiac-00264-00049200-00049423 down and take it with you um if you were AootBPgiiac-00265-00049424-00049607 looking to lease a farm or property and AootBPgiiac-00266-00049608-00049718 didn't want to make a long-term AootBPgiiac-00267-00049719-00050062 investment uh uh that was permanent but AootBPgiiac-00268-00050063-00050239 uh but i did have a farmer that had a AootBPgiiac-00269-00050240-00050446 well pump on a property and he needed to AootBPgiiac-00270-00050447-00050615 power it and was quoted twelve thousand AootBPgiiac-00271-00050616-00050815 dollars to run the power lines to it but AootBPgiiac-00272-00050816-00050951 we could do this with twelve hundred AootBPgiiac-00273-00050952-00051127 dollars uh it's gonna be a better option AootBPgiiac-00274-00051128-00051263 for him and he's gonna go on and do that AootBPgiiac-00275-00051264-00051502 and build that on the barn so uh it does AootBPgiiac-00276-00051503-00051614 have practical settings like i said it's AootBPgiiac-00277-00051615-00051807 not for everybody uh but it does have AootBPgiiac-00278-00051808-00051982 situations where it could be handy and AootBPgiiac-00279-00051983-00052087 helpful AootBPgiiac-00280-00052088-00054023 and economical too AootBPgiiac-00281-00054024-00054223 so the question is does the wiring cause AootBPgiiac-00282-00054224-00054519 you to lose power um so there's a couple AootBPgiiac-00283-00054520-00054694 parts so one AootBPgiiac-00284-00054695-00054950 um it depends a little bit on the size AootBPgiiac-00285-00054951-00055126 wire you use you you're always AootBPgiiac-00286-00055127-00055279 inherently going to have a little bit of AootBPgiiac-00287-00055279-00055503 resistance on your lines AootBPgiiac-00288-00055504-00055719 but if you undersized your wire that's AootBPgiiac-00289-00055720-00055950 where you would run into some some real AootBPgiiac-00290-00055951-00056054 issues AootBPgiiac-00291-00056055-00056191 so you want to be careful not to AootBPgiiac-00292-00056191-00056447 undersize the wire AootBPgiiac-00293-00056448-00056599 really the amount of amperage you're AootBPgiiac-00294-00056600-00056703 running on is what's really going to AootBPgiiac-00295-00056704-00056887 drive how much loss you're going to get AootBPgiiac-00296-00056888-00057094 on those lines so AootBPgiiac-00297-00057095-00057254 one of the things about these systems is AootBPgiiac-00298-00057255-00057359 you can AootBPgiiac-00299-00057360-00057623 run your your panels in series or in AootBPgiiac-00300-00057624-00057863 parallel and that will change how much AootBPgiiac-00301-00057864-00058038 voltage versus amperage you're running AootBPgiiac-00302-00058039-00058199 so that's one thing to consider AootBPgiiac-00303-00058200-00058342 especially if you're running larger AootBPgiiac-00304-00058344-00058559 systems with more line runs AootBPgiiac-00305-00058560-00058775 is to consider what sort of voltage and AootBPgiiac-00306-00058776-00058919 amperage you're running the system like AootBPgiiac-00307-00058920-00059126 this at because it will actually play a AootBPgiiac-00308-00059127-00059271 role in how much AootBPgiiac-00309-00059272-00059438 a voltage drop you're going to have over AootBPgiiac-00310-00059439-00059759 the system which is kind of interesting AootBPgiiac-00311-00059760-00059950 i would say that the inverter also AootBPgiiac-00312-00059951-00060111 inherently has a little bit of AootBPgiiac-00313-00060112-00060335 inefficiency so some people will AootBPgiiac-00314-00060336-00060535 actually run lights and things like that AootBPgiiac-00315-00060536-00060703 on the dc side AootBPgiiac-00316-00060704-00060966 they're much more expensive to purchase AootBPgiiac-00317-00060967-00061126 but there is an inefficiency going AootBPgiiac-00318-00061127-00061303 through an inverter anyway it's not AootBPgiiac-00319-00061304-00061638 terrible and it continues to get better AootBPgiiac-00320-00061639-00061871 generally i would say in most cases cost AootBPgiiac-00321-00061872-00062006 wise it's worth it to run it through the AootBPgiiac-00322-00062007-00062247 inverter just to not have to pay for AootBPgiiac-00323-00062248-00062479 those lights on the other side but again AootBPgiiac-00324-00062479-00062671 all of these components continue to be AootBPgiiac-00325-00062672-00062847 developed and the cost continues to AootBPgiiac-00326-00062848-00063054 shift around so it's kind of a AootBPgiiac-00327-00063055-00063319 continuous game of playing of pricing AootBPgiiac-00328-00063320-00063575 out those different parts of the system AootBPgiiac-00329-00063576-00063703 undersizing the wire would be really AootBPgiiac-00330-00063704-00063854 important is anybody priced wire or AootBPgiiac-00331-00063855-00064030 looked at how much wire cost right now AootBPgiiac-00332-00064032-00064199 is super expensive AootBPgiiac-00333-00064200-00064342 so that'd be a good thing to remember to AootBPgiiac-00334-00064344-00064503 not undersize that make sure you use the AootBPgiiac-00335-00064504-00064638 proper size wire even though the price AootBPgiiac-00336-00064639-00064903 tag may be tempting to go on the small AootBPgiiac-00337-00064904-00065150 side AootBPgiiac-00338-00065151-00065279 that's why we keep it locked up we don't AootBPgiiac-00339-00065279-00065438 want anybody to take the wire off of it AootBPgiiac-00340-00065439-00065823 it's pretty pretty expensive AootBPgiiac-00341-00065824-00065982 any other questions AootBPgiiac-00342-00065983-00066111 i guess you mentioned parallel and AootBPgiiac-00343-00066112-00066294 series we're wired in a series you're AootBPgiiac-00344-00066295-00066455 right so um everything we've got hooked AootBPgiiac-00345-00066456-00066631 up in the series so you might make note AootBPgiiac-00346-00066632-00066750 of that too if you want to take any AootBPgiiac-00347-00066751-00066959 pictures um you could wire it in AootBPgiiac-00348-00066960-00067263 parallel but what we did was in a series AootBPgiiac-00349-00067264-00067463 well and this is set up for it so you'll AootBPgiiac-00350-00067464-00067638 note that actually the charge controller AootBPgiiac-00351-00067639-00067831 is an mppt which means it has to be AootBPgiiac-00352-00067832-00068006 wired in series if we were wiring in AootBPgiiac-00353-00068007-00068215 parallel we'd have multiple lines coming AootBPgiiac-00354-00068216-00068399 in from the panels and we'd have a AootBPgiiac-00355-00068400-00068519 little bit different type of charge AootBPgiiac-00356-00068520-00068671 controller that we would be purchasing AootBPgiiac-00357-00068672-00068887 if we were running a system in parallel AootBPgiiac-00358-00068888-00069071 so you want to sort of think about that AootBPgiiac-00359-00069072-00069231 before you purchase the system because AootBPgiiac-00360-00069232-00069359 that's really when you're going to make AootBPgiiac-00361-00069360-00069543 those decisions is when you first sort AootBPgiiac-00362-00069544-00069735 of lay it out in your mind AootBPgiiac-00363-00069736-00069847 and then you want to make sure that you AootBPgiiac-00364-00069848-00070023 sort of follow through with that that AootBPgiiac-00365-00070024-00070255 decision the batteries if you unchart AootBPgiiac-00366-00070256-00070391 and move the battery is not going to AootBPgiiac-00367-00070392-00070559 lose charge just because you unhook it AootBPgiiac-00368-00070560-00070694 from the system AootBPgiiac-00369-00070695-00070950 and it depends on how much AootBPgiiac-00370-00070951-00071119 panel you have and how much sunlight you AootBPgiiac-00371-00071120-00071271 have as to how fast it's going to charge AootBPgiiac-00372-00071272-00071519 the battery but some people will take AootBPgiiac-00373-00071520-00071655 batteries out of the system and then AootBPgiiac-00374-00071656-00071791 move them somewhere else to run AootBPgiiac-00375-00071792-00071935 something and then bring them back in to AootBPgiiac-00376-00071936-00072087 charge again AootBPgiiac-00377-00072088-00072247 it's not the easiest because then you AootBPgiiac-00378-00072248-00072367 have to turn off the system and there AootBPgiiac-00379-00072368-00072647 are some safety things with pulling a dc AootBPgiiac-00380-00072648-00072775 system apart AootBPgiiac-00381-00072776-00072903 and making sure that you do actually AootBPgiiac-00382-00072904-00073062 discharge when you do that AootBPgiiac-00383-00073063-00073175 you don't want to shock yourself that AootBPgiiac-00384-00073176-00073391 would be a big problem AootBPgiiac-00385-00073392-00073655 better at 12 volts than AootBPgiiac-00386-00073656-00073879 some things but still not ideal i mean AootBPgiiac-00387-00073880-00074055 that's same thing on a car battery you AootBPgiiac-00388-00074056-00074199 want to be a little bit cautious with it AootBPgiiac-00389-00074200-00074479 right it's a not ideal to hit yourself AootBPgiiac-00390-00074480-00074694 with one of those so AootBPgiiac-00391-00074695-00074894 but both options are out there i would AootBPgiiac-00392-00074895-00075047 say though the panels i would want AootBPgiiac-00393-00075048-00075294 mounted more permanently AootBPgiiac-00394-00075295-00075438 you could build it in such a way that AootBPgiiac-00395-00075439-00075638 you could remove them pretty easily you AootBPgiiac-00396-00075639-00075791 can see here on these ones that these AootBPgiiac-00397-00075792-00075967 are just a few screws so taking one out AootBPgiiac-00398-00075968-00076135 and moving it somewhere else wouldn't be AootBPgiiac-00399-00076136-00076287 impossible but AootBPgiiac-00400-00076288-00076415 just because of how you want to set up AootBPgiiac-00401-00076416-00076631 the angle to that south face AootBPgiiac-00402-00076632-00077071 it's hard to move it very often AootBPgiiac-00403-00077072-00077199 and the panels themselves are not that AootBPgiiac-00404-00077200-00077367 heavy the batteries are the the 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time geography A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00024-00007651-00007944 the Swedish geographer Torsten Hagar A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00025-00007945-00008228 stryn created time geography in the A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00026-00008229-00008520 mid-1960s based on ideas he had A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00027-00008521-00008760 developed during his earlier empirical A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00028-00008761-00009030 research on human migration patterns in A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00029-00009031-00009432 Sweden he sought some way of finding out A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00030-00009433-00009605 the workings of large A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00031-00009606-00010053 socio-environmental mechanisms using a A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00032-00010054-00010368 physical approach involving the study of A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00033-00010369-00010602 how events occur in a time space A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00034-00010603-00010781 framework A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00035-00010782-00011069 Hager strand was inspired in part by A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00036-00011070-00011306 conceptual advances in space-time A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00037-00011307-00011531 physics and by the philosophy of A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00038-00011532-00011777 physicalism Hager strands earliest A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00039-00011778-00012080 formulation of time geography informally A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00040-00012081-00012338 described its key ontological features A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00041-00012339-00012719 in time-space the individual describes a A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00042-00012720-00013130 path within a situational context life A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00043-00013131-00013415 paths become captured within a net of A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00044-00013416-00013744 constraints some of which are imposed by A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00045-00013744-00014024 physiological and physical necessities A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00046-00014025-00014297 and some imposed by private and common A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00047-00014297-00014538 decisions A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00048-00014540-00014772 it would be impossible to offer a A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00049-00014773-00015097 comprehensive taxonomy of Constraints A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00050-00015097-00015513 seen as time-space phenomena Hagar stryn A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00051-00015515-00015913 said but he tentatively described three A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00052-00015913-00016241 important classes of constraints A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00053-00016243-00016605 capability constraints limitations on A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00054-00016606-00016846 the activity of individuals because of A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00055-00016847-00017080 their biological structure and/or the A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00056-00017081-00017386 tools they can command coupling A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00057-00017387-00017728 constraints limitations that define A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00058-00017729-00017971 where when and for how long the A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00059-00017972-00018265 individual has to join other individuals A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00060-00018266-00018588 tools and materials in order to produce A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00061-00018589-00019063 consume and transact closely related to A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00062-00019064-00019380 critical path analysis and A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00063-00019381-00019743 authority constraints limitations on the A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00064-00019744-00020049 domain our time-space entity within A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00065-00020050-00020271 which things and events are under the A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00066-00020272-00020574 control of a given individual or a given A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00067-00020575-00021033 group Hager strand Illustrated these A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00068-00021034-00021315 concepts with novel forms of graphical A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00069-00021316-00021605 notation inspired in part by musical A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00070-00021606-00022017 notation such as the space-time aquarium A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00071-00022018-00022266 or space-time cube which displays A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00072-00022267-00022505 individual paths an axonometric A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00073-00022506-00022779 graphical projection of space and time A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00074-00022780-00023181 coordinates the space-time prism which A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00075-00023182-00023460 shows individuals possible behavior in A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00076-00023461-00023688 time-space given their capability A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00077-00023689-00023984 constraints and coupling constraints A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00078-00023985-00024219 bundles of paths which are the A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00079-00024220-00024474 conjunction of individual paths due in A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00080-00024475-00024732 part to their capability constraints and A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00081-00024733-00024950 coupling constraints and which helped to A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00082-00024951-00025422 create pockets of local order concentric A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00083-00025423-00025680 tubes or rings of accessibility which A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00084-00025681-00025964 indicate certain capability constraints A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00085-00025966-00026220 of a given individual such as limited A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00086-00026220-00026511 spatial size and limited manual oral A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00087-00026512-00026901 auditive and visual range and nested A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00088-00026902-00027150 hierarchies of domains which showed the A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00089-00027151-00027357 authority constraints for a given A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00090-00027358-00027612 individual or a given group while this A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00091-00027613-00027821 innovative visual language is an A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00092-00027822-00028062 essential feature of time geography A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00093-00028063-00028277 Hager strands colleague Bolender A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00094-00028277-00028539 emphasized that it is the product of an A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00095-00028539-00028839 underlying ontology and not the other A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00096-00028839-00029220 way around the notation system is a very A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00097-00029220-00029502 useful tool but it is a rather poor A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00098-00029502-00029886 reflection of a rich worldview in many A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00099-00029887-00030231 cases the notational apparatus has been A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00100-00030232-00030612 the hallmark of time geography however A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00101-00030613-00030908 the underlying ontology as the most A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00102-00030910-00031293 important feature time geography is not A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00103-00031294-00031614 only about time geographic diagrams just A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00104-00031614-00031860 as music is not only about musical A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00105-00031861-00032199 notation Hager strand later explained A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00106-00032200-00032489 what is briefly alluded to here as a A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00107-00032490-00032697 four dimensional world of A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00108-00032698-00033021 forms this cannot be completely A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00109-00033022-00033354 graphically depicted on the other hand A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00110-00033355-00033603 one ought to be able to imagine it with A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00111-00033604-00033843 sufficient clarity for it to be of A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00112-00033844-00034058 guidance in empirical and theoretical A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00113-00034059-00034650 research by 1981 geographers Nigel A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00114-00034651-00034869 thrift and Allen Pratt were already A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00115-00034870-00035133 defending time geography against those A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00116-00035134-00035340 who would see it merely as a rigid A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00117-00035341-00035580 descriptive model of spatial and A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00118-00035581-00035844 temporal organization which lends itself A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00119-00035845-00036114 to accessibility constrained analysis A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00120-00036115-00036363 and related exercises in social A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00121-00036364-00036523 engineering A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00122-00036524-00036893 clotee they argued that time geography A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00123-00036894-00037205 is not just a model of constraints it is A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00124-00037206-00037487 a flexible and evolving way of thinking A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00125-00037488-00037772 about reality that can complement a wide A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00126-00037773-00038078 variety of theories and research methods A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00127-00038079-00038483 in the decades since then Hager strand A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00128-00038484-00038723 and others have made efforts to expand A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00129-00038724-00039125 his original set of concepts by the end A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00130-00039126-00039374 of his life Hager strand had ceased A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00131-00039375-00039833 using the phrase time geography to refer A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00132-00039834-00040064 to this way of thinking and instead used A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00133-00040065-00040794 words like topo ecology A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00134-00040795-00041118 topic later developments in time A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00135-00041119-00041576 geography A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00136-00041577-00041954 since the 1980s time geography has been A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00137-00041955-00042167 used by researchers in the social A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00138-00042168-00042487 sciences the biological sciences and in A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00139-00042488-00043001 interdisciplinary fields in 1993 British A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00140-00043002-00043333 geographer Gillian Rose noted that time A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00141-00043334-00043630 geography shares the feminist interest A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00142-00043631-00043949 in the quotidian paths traced by people A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00143-00043950-00044270 and again like feminism links such paths A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00144-00044271-00044549 by thinking about constraints to the A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00145-00044550-00044836 larger structures of society A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00146-00044837-00045167 however she noted that time geography A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00147-00045168-00045410 had not been applied to issues important A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00148-00045411-00045649 to feminists and she called it a form of A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00149-00045650-00046055 social science masculinity over the A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00150-00046056-00046268 following two decades feminist A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00151-00046269-00046480 geographers have revisited time A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00152-00046481-00046721 geography and have begun to use it as a A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00153-00046722-00047036 tool to address feminist issues GIS A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00154-00047037-00047276 software such as Geo time has been A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00155-00047277-00047568 developed to facilitate time Geographic A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00156-00047569-00047977 visualization and visual analytics time A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00157-00047978-00048262 geography has also been used as a form A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00158-00048263-00048496 of therapeutic assessment in mental A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00159-00048497-00048752 health benjamin bak and colleagues have A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00160-00048753-00048998 generalized the space-time cube into a A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00161-00048999-00049195 framework for temporal data A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00162-00049196-00049430 visualization that applies to all data A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00163-00049431-00049633 that can be represented in two A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00164-00049634-00050310 dimensions plus time A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00165-00050311-00050883 topic C also A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00166-00050884-00051285 agent-based modeling geographic A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00167-00051286-00051539 information systems section adding the A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00168-00051540-00052070 dimension of time GIS and Public Health A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00169-00052071-00052539 historical ecology historical geographic A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00170-00052540-00052904 information system material flow A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00171-00052905-00053499 analysis spatiotemporal database equals A0bI4OFZ_Kg-00172-00053500-00053804 equals footnotes A9oqM27p8NY-00000-00000296-00000478 good morning saints please stand for A9oqM27p8NY-00001-00000479-00000638 prayer A9oqM27p8NY-00002-00000639-00000815 today is the feast of saint margaret A9oqM27p8NY-00003-00000816-00000975 mary alicoat A9oqM27p8NY-00004-00000976-00001174 saint margaret mary alicoak please pray A9oqM27p8NY-00005-00001175-00001335 for all of us and especially for those A9oqM27p8NY-00006-00001336-00001503 celebrating a birthday today A9oqM27p8NY-00007-00001504-00001767 happy birthday to conor hanrahan let us A9oqM27p8NY-00008-00001768-00001814 pray A9oqM27p8NY-00009-00001816-00001959 in the name of the father and the son A9oqM27p8NY-00010-00001960-00002231 and the holy spirit amen A9oqM27p8NY-00011-00002232-00002423 lord your sacred heart beats and bleeds A9oqM27p8NY-00012-00002424-00002591 for the salvation of souls A9oqM27p8NY-00013-00002592-00002799 help us to love and desire to conform to A9oqM27p8NY-00014-00002800-00002895 your sacred heart A9oqM27p8NY-00015-00002896-00003110 just as margaret mary alicoat did in her A9oqM27p8NY-00016-00003111-00003231 lifetime A9oqM27p8NY-00017-00003232-00003454 together we pray heavenly father we A9oqM27p8NY-00018-00003455-00003599 praise you and give you thanks A9oqM27p8NY-00019-00003600-00003775 for the blessings you have bestowed upon A9oqM27p8NY-00020-00003776-00003975 us keep us accordant with truth and A9oqM27p8NY-00021-00003976-00004167 active in charity as exemplified by our A9oqM27p8NY-00022-00004168-00004343 patron saint thomas aquinas A9oqM27p8NY-00023-00004344-00004535 we ask this through christ our lord amen A9oqM27p8NY-00024-00004536-00004670 the name of the father and the son and A9oqM27p8NY-00025-00004671-00004822 the holy spirit amen A9oqM27p8NY-00026-00004823-00004999 please join me as we honor our flag and A9oqM27p8NY-00027-00005000-00005191 country i pledge allegiance A9oqM27p8NY-00028-00005192-00005367 to the flag of the united states of A9oqM27p8NY-00029-00005368-00005591 america and to the republic for which it A9oqM27p8NY-00030-00005592-00005647 stands 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A9oqM27p8NY-00076-00016968-00017215 devotion to the sacred heart of jesus A9oqM27p8NY-00077-00017216-00017375 now it's time for the fun fact of the A9oqM27p8NY-00078-00017376-00017583 day did you know that california's A9oqM27p8NY-00079-00017584-00017767 official state animal the california A9oqM27p8NY-00080-00017768-00017999 grizzly bear is extinct A9oqM27p8NY-00081-00018000-00018319 isn't that amazing thanks for watching A9oqM27p8NY-00082-00018320-00018463 today's midday show we'll be back A9oqM27p8NY-00083-00018464-00018614 tomorrow with more announcements A9oqM27p8NY-00084-00018615-00018839 i'm emma don't forget we'll find a way A9oqM27p8NY-00085-00018840-00020127 to make today great A9oqM27p8NY-00086-00020128-00020336 you AqfVLKdCFDg-00000-00000046-00000437 ix space division ninth SD is an AqfVLKdCFDg-00001-00000438-00000684 inactive United States airforce AqfVLKdCFDg-00002-00000685-00001033 organization its last assignment was AqfVLKdCFDg-00003-00001034-00001277 with Air Force Space Command being AqfVLKdCFDg-00004-00001278-00001511 stationed at Patrick Air Force Base AqfVLKdCFDg-00005-00001512-00001930 Florida it was inactivated on the 1st of AqfVLKdCFDg-00006-00001932-00002259 October 1991 AqfVLKdCFDg-00007-00002260-00002629 you AqfVLKdCFDg-00008-00002630-00003171 topic history AqfVLKdCFDg-00009-00003172-00003515 you AqfVLKdCFDg-00010-00003517-00004140 topic Tactical Air Command AqfVLKdCFDg-00011-00004141-00004449 the organization has had several periods AqfVLKdCFDg-00012-00004450-00004715 of activation over its lifetime AqfVLKdCFDg-00013-00004716-00005114 initially established in April 1949 as AqfVLKdCFDg-00014-00005115-00005384 the ninth Air Division tactical under AqfVLKdCFDg-00015-00005385-00005702 14th Air Force Continental Air Command AqfVLKdCFDg-00016-00005703-00006000 at Pope Air Force Base North Carolina AqfVLKdCFDg-00017-00006001-00006285 the command had no units assigned but AqfVLKdCFDg-00018-00006286-00006495 was to act as a headquarters over AqfVLKdCFDg-00019-00006495-00006884 tactical units it was inactivated in AqfVLKdCFDg-00020-00006886-00007173 August 1950 AqfVLKdCFDg-00021-00007173-00007520 you AqfVLKdCFDg-00022-00007520-00008083 topic air-defense AqfVLKdCFDg-00023-00008084-00008359 it was redesignated ninth Air Division AqfVLKdCFDg-00024-00008360-00008817 defense and reactivated in October 1954 AqfVLKdCFDg-00025-00008818-00009169 by Air Defense Command ADC and assigned AqfVLKdCFDg-00026-00009170-00009541 to Western Air Defense Force w ADF at AqfVLKdCFDg-00027-00009542-00009832 Geiger Field Washington taking over AqfVLKdCFDg-00028-00009833-00010102 control of air defense units in Eastern AqfVLKdCFDg-00029-00010103-00010377 Washington Oregon and Idaho from the AqfVLKdCFDg-00030-00010378-00010783 25th Air Division ad after the 25th ad AqfVLKdCFDg-00031-00010784-00011031 was realigned over the Washington and AqfVLKdCFDg-00032-00011032-00011310 Oregon coastal area west of the Cascade AqfVLKdCFDg-00033-00011311-00011724 Mountains it participated in the United AqfVLKdCFDg-00034-00011725-00011962 States Air Force collateral mission of AqfVLKdCFDg-00035-00011963-00012226 anti-submarine warfare and administered AqfVLKdCFDg-00036-00012227-00012610 equipped and trained for combat it was AqfVLKdCFDg-00037-00012611-00012996 inactivated in 1958 when the Spokane air AqfVLKdCFDg-00038-00012997-00013318 defense sector was established by ADC to AqfVLKdCFDg-00039-00013319-00013722 take over its responsibilities AqfVLKdCFDg-00040-00013722-00014068 you AqfVLKdCFDg-00041-00014069-00014783 topic aerospace and missile defense AqfVLKdCFDg-00042-00014784-00015004 the third incarnation of the AqfVLKdCFDg-00043-00015005-00015352 organization began in 1961 with its AqfVLKdCFDg-00044-00015353-00015599 reactivation as the ninth aerospace AqfVLKdCFDg-00045-00015600-00015872 defense division was associated with the AqfVLKdCFDg-00046-00015872-00016147 North American Aerospace Defense Command AqfVLKdCFDg-00047-00016149-00016496 by ADC assuming responsibility for the AqfVLKdCFDg-00048-00016497-00016757 ballistic missile early warning system AqfVLKdCFDg-00049-00016758-00017033 the missile defense alarm system the AqfVLKdCFDg-00050-00017034-00017372 space detection and tracking system SPAD AqfVLKdCFDg-00051-00017373-00017762 80s the NORAD combat Operations Center AqfVLKdCFDg-00052-00017763-00018019 the bomb alarm system and the nuclear AqfVLKdCFDg-00053-00018020-00018272 detonation system during the Cuban AqfVLKdCFDg-00054-00018273-00018560 Missile Crisis ix implemented an AqfVLKdCFDg-00055-00018561-00018794 improvised missile warning system AqfVLKdCFDg-00056-00018795-00019064 directed toward the cuban missile threat AqfVLKdCFDg-00057-00019065-00019517 called falling leaves in october 1962 AqfVLKdCFDg-00058-00019518-00020021 the SPAD 80's an FPS 49 radar at AqfVLKdCFDg-00059-00020022-00020312 Moorestown Air Force Station New Jersey AqfVLKdCFDg-00060-00020313-00020585 was reorient itself and directed toward AqfVLKdCFDg-00061-00020586-00020930 Cuba a communication network was AqfVLKdCFDg-00062-00020931-00021224 established with Moorestown the an FPS AqfVLKdCFDg-00063-00021225-00021617 78 radar at Laredo Air Force Base Texas AqfVLKdCFDg-00064-00021618-00021994 and the an FPS 35 radar site at AqfVLKdCFDg-00065-00021995-00022264 Thomasville Air Force Station Alabama AqfVLKdCFDg-00066-00022265-00022613 all three stations were in turn tied AqfVLKdCFDg-00067-00022614-00022886 into the command centers at NORAD and at AqfVLKdCFDg-00068-00022887-00023240 Strategic Air Command this missile AqfVLKdCFDg-00069-00023241-00023519 detection network remained in operation AqfVLKdCFDg-00070-00023520-00023765 until the 28th of November and the AqfVLKdCFDg-00071-00023766-00024002 Moorestown and Lorado sites were AqfVLKdCFDg-00072-00024003-00024296 returned to their normal SPAD 80s AqfVLKdCFDg-00073-00024297-00024530 mission when Soviet missiles were AqfVLKdCFDg-00074-00024531-00024856 withdrawn from Cuba the Thomasville AqfVLKdCFDg-00075-00024857-00025118 station retained coverage until late AqfVLKdCFDg-00076-00025119-00025367 December as a precaution the division AqfVLKdCFDg-00077-00025368-00025720 was inactivated in 1968 when its mission AqfVLKdCFDg-00078-00025722-00025937 was elevated to a numbered air force AqfVLKdCFDg-00079-00025938-00026168 level and transferred along with its AqfVLKdCFDg-00080-00026169-00026417 personnel and equipment to the 14th AqfVLKdCFDg-00081-00026418-00026732 aerospace force on the 1st of July the AqfVLKdCFDg-00082-00026733-00027005 most recent incarnation the ninth space AqfVLKdCFDg-00083-00027006-00027329 division began in 1990 when Air Force AqfVLKdCFDg-00084-00027330-00027688 Space Command AF SP AC e Co M AqfVLKdCFDg-00085-00027689-00027946 reactivated the organization to provide AqfVLKdCFDg-00086-00027947-00028195 an action mechanism to AqfVLKdCFDg-00087-00028195-00028498 operationalize the space launch AqfVLKdCFDg-00088-00028499-00028742 capabilities of Eastern space and AqfVLKdCFDg-00089-00028743-00029105 missile center es MC and Western space AqfVLKdCFDg-00090-00029106-00029468 and missile center WSM SI units AqfVLKdCFDg-00091-00029469-00029693 transferred from Air Force Systems AqfVLKdCFDg-00092-00029694-00030160 Command to AF SP acec om during AqfVLKdCFDg-00093-00030161-00030733 1990-1991 es MC + WS MC became AqfVLKdCFDg-00094-00030735-00031039 respectively the 45th Space Wing and AqfVLKdCFDg-00095-00031041-00031321 30th Space Wing within two months of the AqfVLKdCFDg-00096-00031322-00031795 divisions inactivation in 1991 AqfVLKdCFDg-00097-00031795-00032168 you AqfVLKdCFDg-00098-00032169-00032756 topic lineage AqfVLKdCFDg-00099-00032757-00032993 constituted as the 9th Air Division AqfVLKdCFDg-00100-00032994-00033368 tactical on the 7th of April 1949 AqfVLKdCFDg-00101-00033369-00033836 activated on the 1st of May 1949 AqfVLKdCFDg-00102-00033837-00034214 inactivated on the 1st of August 1950 AqfVLKdCFDg-00103-00034215-00034511 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AqfVLKdCFDg-00117-00040482-00040973 1st of August 1950 Western Air Defense AqfVLKdCFDg-00118-00040974-00041345 Force the 8th of October 1954 to the AqfVLKdCFDg-00119-00041346-00041939 15th of August 1958 air later Aerospace AqfVLKdCFDg-00120-00041940-00042398 Defense Command the 14th of July 1961 to AqfVLKdCFDg-00121-00042399-00042893 the 1st of July 1968 Air Force Space AqfVLKdCFDg-00122-00042894-00043277 Command the 1st of October 1992 the 1st AqfVLKdCFDg-00123-00043278-00043929 of october 1991 AqfVLKdCFDg-00124-00043930-00044495 topic stations AqfVLKdCFDg-00125-00044496-00044861 hope Air Force Base North Carolina the AqfVLKdCFDg-00126-00044862-00045249 first of May 1949 to the 1st of August AqfVLKdCFDg-00127-00045250-00045764 1950 geiger field Washington the 8th of AqfVLKdCFDg-00128-00045765-00046237 October 1954 to the 15th of August 1958 AqfVLKdCFDg-00129-00046238-00046765 end Air Force Base Colorado the 15th of AqfVLKdCFDg-00130-00046766-00047349 July 1961 to the 1st of July 1968 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20 2011 AtxFPFh9t7I-00009-00004235-00004535 with me today is Ethan Knight running AtxFPFh9t7I-00010-00004536-00004688 for District Attorney Multnomah County AtxFPFh9t7I-00011-00004689-00005132 welcome Ethan thank you absolutely AtxFPFh9t7I-00012-00005133-00005324 please tell us a little bit about AtxFPFh9t7I-00013-00005325-00005504 yourself and why you're running for this AtxFPFh9t7I-00014-00005505-00005617 office AtxFPFh9t7I-00015-00005618-00005825 absolutely well thank you so much for AtxFPFh9t7I-00016-00005826-00006068 having me again my name is Ethan Knight AtxFPFh9t7I-00017-00006069-00006278 and I'm running for Monmouth County AtxFPFh9t7I-00018-00006279-00006491 District Attorney because I love this AtxFPFh9t7I-00019-00006492-00006814 community I grew up here I've spent most AtxFPFh9t7I-00020-00006815-00007100 of my life here and for the last 20 plus AtxFPFh9t7I-00021-00007101-00007301 years I've been a state and federal AtxFPFh9t7I-00022-00007302-00007567 prosecutor handling virtually every type AtxFPFh9t7I-00023-00007568-00007723 of crime that we have in our AtxFPFh9t7I-00024-00007725-00007831 jurisdiction here AtxFPFh9t7I-00025-00007833-00008142 so for roughly eight years from 1999 to AtxFPFh9t7I-00026-00008143-00008480 2007 I handled cases at the moment AtxFPFh9t7I-00027-00008481-00008628 County District Attorney's Office AtxFPFh9t7I-00028-00008629-00008912 Robbery Homicide environmental crimes AtxFPFh9t7I-00029-00008913-00009299 those sorts of things and then in 2007 I AtxFPFh9t7I-00030-00009300-00009491 moved to the United States Attorney's AtxFPFh9t7I-00031-00009492-00009692 Office where I've handled prominently AtxFPFh9t7I-00032-00009693-00009932 terrorism and national security cases as AtxFPFh9t7I-00033-00009933-00010136 well as public corruption and some AtxFPFh9t7I-00034-00010137-00010355 violent crime cases and during that time AtxFPFh9t7I-00035-00010356-00010556 I've also had the opportunity to do a AtxFPFh9t7I-00036-00010557-00010760 number of different things in both the AtxFPFh9t7I-00037-00010761-00010904 legal community and the community at AtxFPFh9t7I-00038-00010905-00011177 large including serving as the president AtxFPFh9t7I-00039-00011178-00011414 of the Oregon law Foundation which works AtxFPFh9t7I-00040-00011415-00011594 to get legal services to low-income AtxFPFh9t7I-00041-00011595-00011821 individuals and vice president of the AtxFPFh9t7I-00042-00011822-00012064 Oregon State Bar but beyond that and AtxFPFh9t7I-00043-00012065-00012269 beyond all that experience I'm running AtxFPFh9t7I-00044-00012270-00012518 for District Attorney because I love the AtxFPFh9t7I-00045-00012519-00012662 community and I think we can do a better AtxFPFh9t7I-00046-00012663-00013024 job ensuring that we manage the criminal AtxFPFh9t7I-00047-00013025-00013250 justice system and make it work for all AtxFPFh9t7I-00048-00013251-00013466 of our citizens that means fixing it AtxFPFh9t7I-00049-00013466-00013661 where it needs to be fixed and most AtxFPFh9t7I-00050-00013662-00013828 importantly in this challenging time AtxFPFh9t7I-00051-00013829-00014088 that we're in now it means having steady AtxFPFh9t7I-00052-00014090-00014369 experienced leadership running the AtxFPFh9t7I-00053-00014369-00014510 biggest District Attorney's office in AtxFPFh9t7I-00054-00014511-00014711 the state of Oregon to make sure that we AtxFPFh9t7I-00055-00014712-00014944 manage these cases and these challenges AtxFPFh9t7I-00056-00014945-00015100 for all of our citizens AtxFPFh9t7I-00057-00015101-00015482 thank you what role does the Multnomah AtxFPFh9t7I-00058-00015483-00015775 County DA have in reducing racial bias AtxFPFh9t7I-00059-00015776-00015944 and disparities in our criminal justice AtxFPFh9t7I-00060-00015944-00016175 system well AtxFPFh9t7I-00061-00016176-00016378 as the chief law enforcement officer of AtxFPFh9t7I-00062-00016379-00016619 Mahomet County the elected district AtxFPFh9t7I-00063-00016620-00016783 attorney has a significant role in AtxFPFh9t7I-00064-00016784-00017114 reducing racial and ethnic biases that AtxFPFh9t7I-00065-00017115-00017264 are inherent our criminal justice system AtxFPFh9t7I-00066-00017265-00017497 now it's important to acknowledge at the AtxFPFh9t7I-00067-00017498-00017692 outset that the district attorney can't AtxFPFh9t7I-00068-00017693-00017947 control many of the different factors we AtxFPFh9t7I-00069-00017948-00018244 see that are the impetus for racial AtxFPFh9t7I-00070-00018245-00018491 discrimination our system that exists AtxFPFh9t7I-00071-00018492-00018683 not only in the criminal justice system AtxFPFh9t7I-00072-00018684-00018811 but we're talking about fair housing AtxFPFh9t7I-00073-00018812-00019049 we're talking about employment so many AtxFPFh9t7I-00074-00019050-00019405 areas but the DA can do things to affect AtxFPFh9t7I-00075-00019406-00019667 how sentences are imposed and be a AtxFPFh9t7I-00076-00019668-00019847 leader in the community and talking AtxFPFh9t7I-00077-00019848-00020144 about it the ongoing challenge that a AtxFPFh9t7I-00078-00020145-00020330 racial discrimination plays in the AtxFPFh9t7I-00079-00020331-00020530 system and that's precisely what I plan AtxFPFh9t7I-00080-00020531-00020750 to do I've done a considerable work and AtxFPFh9t7I-00081-00020751-00020950 trying to increase diversity in the AtxFPFh9t7I-00082-00020951-00021155 legal profession and I think that'll go AtxFPFh9t7I-00083-00021156-00021364 hand-in-hand with my vision and my AtxFPFh9t7I-00084-00021365-00021634 efforts to ensure that we have a AtxFPFh9t7I-00085-00021635-00021856 concerted effort on the part of my AtxFPFh9t7I-00086-00021857-00022108 deputies to reduce racial disparities AtxFPFh9t7I-00087-00022109-00022353 that exist in the karela justice system AtxFPFh9t7I-00088-00022354-00022750 thank you what circumstances would you AtxFPFh9t7I-00089-00022751-00022990 consider charging a juvenile offender as AtxFPFh9t7I-00090-00022991-00023072 an adult AtxFPFh9t7I-00091-00023073-00023380 well for starters I support the changes AtxFPFh9t7I-00092-00023381-00023572 that have been made to ballot measure 11 AtxFPFh9t7I-00093-00023573-00023797 and removing many juvenile offenders AtxFPFh9t7I-00094-00023798-00024037 outside of measure 11 I think those are AtxFPFh9t7I-00095-00024038-00024215 important changes that need to be made AtxFPFh9t7I-00096-00024216-00024428 and as someone again with over two AtxFPFh9t7I-00097-00024429-00024617 decades of experience in the system AtxFPFh9t7I-00098-00024618-00024961 I know that juvenile offenders both by AtxFPFh9t7I-00099-00024962-00025274 disposition background and frankly brain AtxFPFh9t7I-00100-00025275-00025480 development are different than many of AtxFPFh9t7I-00101-00025481-00025669 our adult offenders having said that AtxFPFh9t7I-00102-00025670-00025921 there are rare circumstances in which a AtxFPFh9t7I-00103-00025922-00026131 juvenile should or could be charged as AtxFPFh9t7I-00104-00026132-00026492 an adult the circumstances I see that as AtxFPFh9t7I-00105-00026493-00026743 being appropriate in are predominantly AtxFPFh9t7I-00106-00026744-00026989 the most series of our violent crimes AtxFPFh9t7I-00107-00026990-00027332 there are homicide cases where the facts AtxFPFh9t7I-00108-00027333-00027617 are so egregious that a juvenile may AtxFPFh9t7I-00109-00027618-00027848 need to be charged as an adult and I AtxFPFh9t7I-00110-00027849-00027980 think in doing that we also need to AtxFPFh9t7I-00111-00027981-00028277 recognize that a 17 year old is not the AtxFPFh9t7I-00112-00028277-00028481 same as a 14 year old or a 15 year old AtxFPFh9t7I-00113-00028482-00028679 and so to be very careful in a AtxFPFh9t7I-00114-00028680-00028864 case-by-case basis if we're going to AtxFPFh9t7I-00115-00028865-00029144 make that decision to charge a juvenile AtxFPFh9t7I-00116-00029145-00029362 as an adult to acknowledge those AtxFPFh9t7I-00117-00029363-00029492 differences in back AtxFPFh9t7I-00118-00029493-00029726 around an age inherent in every case and AtxFPFh9t7I-00119-00029727-00029920 I would really draw in my experience in AtxFPFh9t7I-00120-00029920-00030118 implementing that vision and that AtxFPFh9t7I-00121-00030119-00030445 understanding of the law thank you AtxFPFh9t7I-00122-00030445-00030752 please discuss the issues related to pre AtxFPFh9t7I-00123-00030752-00030974 time pretrial detention and any AtxFPFh9t7I-00124-00030975-00031162 recommendations you have for reform AtxFPFh9t7I-00125-00031163-00031639 including bail so pretrial detention is AtxFPFh9t7I-00126-00031641-00031840 a significant issue in cash bail as a AtxFPFh9t7I-00127-00031841-00032020 significant issue cash bail is the AtxFPFh9t7I-00128-00032022-00032218 process of holding someone prior to AtxFPFh9t7I-00129-00032219-00032543 trial based on whether or not they can AtxFPFh9t7I-00130-00032544-00032729 post a certain amount of money to be AtxFPFh9t7I-00131-00032730-00033008 released now I support a repealing cash AtxFPFh9t7I-00132-00033009-00033302 bail I worked extensively in the state AtxFPFh9t7I-00133-00033303-00033499 and federal systems which have different AtxFPFh9t7I-00134-00033500-00033743 standards in different criteria for AtxFPFh9t7I-00135-00033744-00033992 holding folks pretrial and I believe in AtxFPFh9t7I-00136-00033993-00034280 eliminating cash bail the important AtxFPFh9t7I-00137-00034281-00034471 thing is to understand what we need to AtxFPFh9t7I-00138-00034472-00034658 do to replace it and to have someone who AtxFPFh9t7I-00139-00034659-00034886 has an understanding of the system to AtxFPFh9t7I-00140-00034887-00035099 implement those changes so I would AtxFPFh9t7I-00141-00035100-00035321 recommend moving away from any system AtxFPFh9t7I-00142-00035322-00035549 that prioritizes or places an emphasis AtxFPFh9t7I-00143-00035550-00035906 on financial means to stay in custody AtxFPFh9t7I-00144-00035907-00036112 prior to trial to a system that AtxFPFh9t7I-00145-00036113-00036311 emphasizes dangerousness and a AtxFPFh9t7I-00146-00036312-00036455 suitability of somebody to be in the AtxFPFh9t7I-00147-00036456-00036664 community you know domestic violence is AtxFPFh9t7I-00148-00036665-00036875 an area that's a perfect example you AtxFPFh9t7I-00149-00036876-00037090 know many domestic violence defendants AtxFPFh9t7I-00150-00037091-00037277 should not be released prior to trial AtxFPFh9t7I-00151-00037278-00037448 because the risk they pose to their AtxFPFh9t7I-00152-00037449-00037661 vulnerable accusers now should that AtxFPFh9t7I-00153-00037662-00037820 person be held based on the amount of AtxFPFh9t7I-00154-00037821-00038054 money they have no but we should give AtxFPFh9t7I-00155-00038055-00038237 our judges the ability to detain people AtxFPFh9t7I-00156-00038238-00038474 prior to trial based on dangerousness AtxFPFh9t7I-00157-00038475-00038693 and that's similar to the federal system AtxFPFh9t7I-00158-00038694-00038870 and the standard we have in place there AtxFPFh9t7I-00159-00038871-00039056 so that's the kind of change I would AtxFPFh9t7I-00160-00039057-00039283 advocate for is eliminating cash bail AtxFPFh9t7I-00161-00039284-00039499 but ensuring that we have some standards AtxFPFh9t7I-00162-00039500-00039652 to keep dangerous people in custody AtxFPFh9t7I-00163-00039653-00040114 prior to trial thank you what role does AtxFPFh9t7I-00164-00040115-00040352 the DA have in addressing the societal AtxFPFh9t7I-00165-00040353-00040532 problems that contribute to criminal AtxFPFh9t7I-00166-00040533-00040880 behavior well I mean the district AtxFPFh9t7I-00167-00040881-00041096 attorney unfortunately only has so much AtxFPFh9t7I-00168-00041097-00041360 power in really addressing some of our AtxFPFh9t7I-00169-00041361-00041696 underlying societal or social issues now AtxFPFh9t7I-00170-00041697-00041902 the district attorney should and could AtxFPFh9t7I-00171-00041903-00042143 do everything he or she can to reduce AtxFPFh9t7I-00172-00042144-00042401 some of those impacts and we're talking AtxFPFh9t7I-00173-00042402-00042787 about poverty addiction acute mental AtxFPFh9t7I-00174-00042788-00042839 illness AtxFPFh9t7I-00175-00042840-00043103 all things that we see in the system and AtxFPFh9t7I-00176-00043104-00043237 to that end I've been a long supporter AtxFPFh9t7I-00177-00043238-00043418 and someone has created some of the AtxFPFh9t7I-00178-00043419-00043612 alternative core programs that address AtxFPFh9t7I-00179-00043613-00043877 some of those things and they certainly AtxFPFh9t7I-00180-00043878-00044245 make a dent in addiction mental illness AtxFPFh9t7I-00181-00044246-00044561 those sorts of social problems that we AtxFPFh9t7I-00182-00044562-00044792 need to work harder to address but I'll AtxFPFh9t7I-00183-00044793-00044939 say that really we should be working AtxFPFh9t7I-00184-00044940-00045173 toward a system collectively outside of AtxFPFh9t7I-00185-00045174-00045421 the criminal justice system that reduces AtxFPFh9t7I-00186-00045422-00045812 and eliminates poverty addiction those AtxFPFh9t7I-00187-00045813-00045965 sorts of things so we don't see people AtxFPFh9t7I-00188-00045966-00046190 in the system you know my goal frankly AtxFPFh9t7I-00189-00046191-00046439 is a lifelong prosecutor is to go out of AtxFPFh9t7I-00190-00046440-00046637 business I mean the reality is if we AtxFPFh9t7I-00191-00046638-00046843 could the best thing we could do would AtxFPFh9t7I-00192-00046844-00047174 be to reduce the number of people are AtxFPFh9t7I-00193-00047175-00047365 coming into the system by virtue of AtxFPFh9t7I-00194-00047366-00047681 fixing many of those circumstances that AtxFPFh9t7I-00195-00047682-00047837 it caused people or put people in AtxFPFh9t7I-00196-00047838-00047975 position to commit crimes in the first AtxFPFh9t7I-00197-00047976-00048164 place it's not even to think we could AtxFPFh9t7I-00198-00048165-00048383 reduce all of that but certainly my goal AtxFPFh9t7I-00199-00048384-00048524 would be to work with partners outside AtxFPFh9t7I-00200-00048525-00048796 the system and to use and leverage my AtxFPFh9t7I-00201-00048797-00049018 experience to get to a place where we do AtxFPFh9t7I-00202-00049019-00049312 reduce some of those societal harms AtxFPFh9t7I-00203-00049313-00049661 Thank You Ethan this has been the video AtxFPFh9t7I-00204-00049662-00049771 boater Stein AtxFPFh9t7I-00205-00049772-00049958 thank you for watching the primary AtxFPFh9t7I-00206-00049959-00050186 election is Tuesday May 19th AtxFPFh9t7I-00207-00050187-00050383 be sure to inform yourself about the AtxFPFh9t7I-00208-00050384-00050525 candidates and ballot measures and AtxFPFh9t7I-00209-00050526-00050804 exercise your right to vote AtxFPFh9t7I-00210-00050805-00053248 [Music] AuVMgvei1o4-00000-00000000-00000191 hey what's up everybody in this video AuVMgvei1o4-00001-00000192-00000366 we're talking about clarisonic AuVMgvei1o4-00002-00000367-00000623 skin cleanser tools also this video is AuVMgvei1o4-00003-00000624-00000799 not sponsored by clarisonic AuVMgvei1o4-00004-00000800-00001166 i've had the mia 2 for seven years AuVMgvei1o4-00005-00001167-00001343 this is what it looks like after doing AuVMgvei1o4-00006-00001344-00001519 some research today for doing this video AuVMgvei1o4-00007-00001520-00001607 i've realized i AuVMgvei1o4-00008-00001607-00001814 think the mia 2 is discontinued but they AuVMgvei1o4-00009-00001816-00002007 now have the mia smart and it's like AuVMgvei1o4-00010-00002007-00002255 the exact same thing so i think this AuVMgvei1o4-00011-00002256-00002439 review is still totally relevant AuVMgvei1o4-00012-00002440-00002631 i don't know if you can actually get rid AuVMgvei1o4-00013-00002632-00002750 of blackheads AuVMgvei1o4-00014-00002751-00002910 but this is the closest thing that i've AuVMgvei1o4-00015-00002911-00003047 found that's really helped me over the AuVMgvei1o4-00016-00003048-00003175 years so that's i wanted to share with AuVMgvei1o4-00017-00003176-00003254 you guys today AuVMgvei1o4-00018-00003255-00003447 so first i want to tell you guys why i AuVMgvei1o4-00019-00003447-00003631 started using this product AuVMgvei1o4-00020-00003632-00003983 i've had reasonable skin my entire life AuVMgvei1o4-00021-00003984-00004183 your typical like teen acne and that AuVMgvei1o4-00022-00004184-00004286 sort of thing AuVMgvei1o4-00023-00004287-00004495 i've been pretty lucky i haven't had to AuVMgvei1o4-00024-00004496-00004695 do anything extreme to my skin AuVMgvei1o4-00025-00004696-00004854 but the thing that i've really struggled AuVMgvei1o4-00026-00004855-00005015 with the most has been blackheads AuVMgvei1o4-00027-00005016-00005183 since i've been a teenager i've been on AuVMgvei1o4-00028-00005184-00005431 the hunt for a blackhead solution AuVMgvei1o4-00029-00005432-00005631 and i've tried all those strips i've AuVMgvei1o4-00030-00005632-00005895 tried every sort of like blackhead mask AuVMgvei1o4-00031-00005896-00006095 scrubs i've gone for like facials and AuVMgvei1o4-00032-00006096-00006270 stuff everything under the sun that you AuVMgvei1o4-00033-00006271-00006318 can think of AuVMgvei1o4-00034-00006319-00006431 this is the closest thing that i've AuVMgvei1o4-00035-00006431-00006567 found that's really helped me over the AuVMgvei1o4-00036-00006568-00006695 years let's get into some product AuVMgvei1o4-00037-00006695-00006798 features AuVMgvei1o4-00038-00006800-00007014 it's very very small so it fits in the AuVMgvei1o4-00039-00007015-00007206 size of my hand AuVMgvei1o4-00040-00007208-00007567 this is the brush it's very very easy AuVMgvei1o4-00041-00007568-00007903 to use and hold AuVMgvei1o4-00042-00007904-00008110 the charger is awesome too it's like AuVMgvei1o4-00043-00008111-00008327 just a magnetic sort of AuVMgvei1o4-00044-00008328-00008591 thing like that and then it plugs into AuVMgvei1o4-00045-00008592-00008646 the wall AuVMgvei1o4-00046-00008647-00008863 and the cord's reasonably long so it can AuVMgvei1o4-00047-00008864-00009014 be charged pretty much anywhere AuVMgvei1o4-00048-00009015-00009278 uses patented oscillation technology to AuVMgvei1o4-00049-00009279-00009446 flush pores with water for AuVMgvei1o4-00050-00009447-00009687 surface and deep pore cleansing it AuVMgvei1o4-00051-00009688-00009967 cleans six times better than your hands AuVMgvei1o4-00052-00009968-00010223 it's the number one most recommended AuVMgvei1o4-00053-00010224-00010383 skin cleansing device by us AuVMgvei1o4-00054-00010384-00010478 dermatologists AuVMgvei1o4-00055-00010479-00010599 so those are some pretty impressive AuVMgvei1o4-00056-00010600-00010806 features in terms of price um AuVMgvei1o4-00057-00010807-00010974 like i said this one i think is AuVMgvei1o4-00058-00010975-00011199 discontinued after researching AuVMgvei1o4-00059-00011200-00011414 the the replacement and this one it AuVMgvei1o4-00060-00011415-00011535 looks like it clocks in AuVMgvei1o4-00061-00011536-00011838 about around a hundred dollars um i saw AuVMgvei1o4-00062-00011839-00011887 some AuVMgvei1o4-00063-00011888-00012238 some listed for about 90 95 depending AuVMgvei1o4-00064-00012239-00012470 so i'm gonna go with around 100 bucks AuVMgvei1o4-00065-00012471-00012614 great news is that i've had mine for AuVMgvei1o4-00066-00012615-00012727 literally seven years i'm trying to AuVMgvei1o4-00067-00012728-00012871 think of the year that i got it i want AuVMgvei1o4-00068-00012872-00013055 to say it was like 2013 AuVMgvei1o4-00069-00013056-00013327 so going into its eighth year and it's AuVMgvei1o4-00070-00013328-00013383 still AuVMgvei1o4-00071-00013384-00013527 like brand new so that's a really good AuVMgvei1o4-00072-00013528-00013638 sign so you obviously are getting AuVMgvei1o4-00073-00013640-00013703 quality AuVMgvei1o4-00074-00013704-00013879 and you get what you pay for let me show AuVMgvei1o4-00075-00013880-00014030 you guys exactly how i use this i'm in AuVMgvei1o4-00076-00014031-00014247 the shower i have my brush i pick it up AuVMgvei1o4-00077-00014247-00014607 i actually wash my face uh dry AuVMgvei1o4-00078-00014608-00014879 and the benefits of that is it's even AuVMgvei1o4-00079-00014880-00015022 more deep cleansing AuVMgvei1o4-00080-00015023-00015199 um i actually saw this on another AuVMgvei1o4-00081-00015200-00015407 youtuber's video i can't remember her AuVMgvei1o4-00082-00015408-00015543 name so i'm so sorry AuVMgvei1o4-00083-00015544-00015743 but she taught me to do this and since AuVMgvei1o4-00084-00015744-00015894 then i've noticed my skin has gotten AuVMgvei1o4-00085-00015895-00016038 even more clear AuVMgvei1o4-00086-00016040-00016358 so i will put my face wash directly on AuVMgvei1o4-00087-00016359-00016439 my skin AuVMgvei1o4-00088-00016440-00016639 without it being wet first and it's very AuVMgvei1o4-00089-00016640-00016799 very like thick and strange AuVMgvei1o4-00090-00016800-00016967 but you know what the example that i AuVMgvei1o4-00091-00016968-00017239 give people who i tell that i do that to AuVMgvei1o4-00092-00017240-00017455 is picture if you have like you know if AuVMgvei1o4-00093-00017456-00017647 you chop some fruit on your AuVMgvei1o4-00094-00017648-00017958 counter and there's now a stain AuVMgvei1o4-00095-00017959-00018199 you can either take tons of water and a AuVMgvei1o4-00096-00018200-00018367 bit of dish soap and like AuVMgvei1o4-00097-00018368-00018575 scrub the area and it's gonna probably AuVMgvei1o4-00098-00018576-00018758 take you a bit longer to get the stain AuVMgvei1o4-00099-00018759-00018791 off AuVMgvei1o4-00100-00018792-00018958 or if you just put the dish soap AuVMgvei1o4-00101-00018959-00019111 directly on the dry counter AuVMgvei1o4-00102-00019112-00019279 and then take a wet cloth and wipe it AuVMgvei1o4-00103-00019280-00019407 off after it's probably gonna come off AuVMgvei1o4-00104-00019408-00019463 instantly AuVMgvei1o4-00105-00019464-00019663 so that's sort of the same idea so AuVMgvei1o4-00106-00019664-00019935 anyway i put the tiniest little bit AuVMgvei1o4-00107-00019936-00020214 of face wash in the center of this brush AuVMgvei1o4-00108-00020215-00020319 my face is dry AuVMgvei1o4-00109-00020320-00020614 however i do quickly run this under the AuVMgvei1o4-00110-00020615-00020663 water AuVMgvei1o4-00111-00020664-00020807 so that the brush is a little bit wet AuVMgvei1o4-00112-00020808-00021071 because the dry bristles on dry skin AuVMgvei1o4-00113-00021072-00021303 is a lot so i just do like a quick wet AuVMgvei1o4-00114-00021304-00021447 with this and then i go to town AuVMgvei1o4-00115-00021448-00021694 and clean my face after i'm done i rinse AuVMgvei1o4-00116-00021695-00021894 off with lukewarm water because hot AuVMgvei1o4-00117-00021895-00022055 water really dries your skin out AuVMgvei1o4-00118-00022056-00022191 and that's when i find i get the best AuVMgvei1o4-00119-00022192-00022422 results pros and cons AuVMgvei1o4-00120-00022423-00022647 lots of pros with this the entire thing AuVMgvei1o4-00121-00022648-00022743 is waterproof AuVMgvei1o4-00122-00022744-00023014 so i only use this clarisonic brush in AuVMgvei1o4-00123-00023015-00023167 the shower with me because the whole AuVMgvei1o4-00124-00023168-00023327 thing is waterproof it can go underneath AuVMgvei1o4-00125-00023328-00023399 the AuVMgvei1o4-00126-00023400-00023647 shower head um so as i'm in there just AuVMgvei1o4-00127-00023648-00023791 doing my regular thing AuVMgvei1o4-00128-00023792-00024030 i also cleanse my face and even though AuVMgvei1o4-00129-00024031-00024135 it's electronic AuVMgvei1o4-00130-00024136-00024303 it doesn't matter it can totally be AuVMgvei1o4-00131-00024304-00024439 immersed in the water and it's AuVMgvei1o4-00132-00024440-00024694 all good you get a hundred minutes per AuVMgvei1o4-00133-00024695-00024878 charge which is a lot because each AuVMgvei1o4-00134-00024879-00025039 cleanse is timed out for you by one AuVMgvei1o4-00135-00025040-00025086 minute AuVMgvei1o4-00136-00025087-00025230 i'm gonna show you guys an example very AuVMgvei1o4-00137-00025231-00025414 very soon but that's great that's a AuVMgvei1o4-00138-00025415-00025511 hundred uses AuVMgvei1o4-00139-00025512-00025767 with one charge i will say though as the AuVMgvei1o4-00140-00025768-00025894 machine gets older AuVMgvei1o4-00141-00025895-00026046 i'm finding that it might be a little AuVMgvei1o4-00142-00026047-00026239 bit less but i guess that's just sort of AuVMgvei1o4-00143-00026239-00026423 a standard thing with technology is as AuVMgvei1o4-00144-00026424-00026590 you use it more as it gets older AuVMgvei1o4-00145-00026591-00026799 um it doesn't hold a charge for as long AuVMgvei1o4-00146-00026800-00026983 okay it's gentle for sensitive skin AuVMgvei1o4-00147-00026983-00027167 that's a big one because AuVMgvei1o4-00148-00027168-00027414 although i wouldn't necessarily classify AuVMgvei1o4-00149-00027416-00027631 my skin as sensitive it kind of is i AuVMgvei1o4-00150-00027632-00027767 know that's very confusing AuVMgvei1o4-00151-00027768-00027935 um it's sensitive to certain things so AuVMgvei1o4-00152-00027936-00028127 it's less sensitive to products AuVMgvei1o4-00153-00028127-00028414 but more sensitive to like impact if AuVMgvei1o4-00154-00028416-00028495 that makes sense AuVMgvei1o4-00155-00028495-00028751 like if my dog like decides to walk AuVMgvei1o4-00156-00028752-00028958 across my chest or my face which she AuVMgvei1o4-00157-00028960-00029062 often does AuVMgvei1o4-00158-00029063-00029246 um to try and get from like one part of AuVMgvei1o4-00159-00029247-00029431 the couch to the other for example AuVMgvei1o4-00160-00029432-00029670 i'll have a red mark from where she AuVMgvei1o4-00161-00029672-00029887 stepped on me for like an hour or two AuVMgvei1o4-00162-00029888-00030079 so it's just really sensitive to that AuVMgvei1o4-00163-00030080-00030214 sort of thing so this AuVMgvei1o4-00164-00030216-00030502 clarisonic tool is great for that type AuVMgvei1o4-00165-00030503-00030590 of sensitive skin AuVMgvei1o4-00166-00030591-00030727 so i think the product makes people AuVMgvei1o4-00167-00030727-00030911 think that the brush spins AuVMgvei1o4-00168-00030912-00031118 it doesn't it oscillates which means AuVMgvei1o4-00169-00031119-00031335 vibrating really quickly back and forth AuVMgvei1o4-00170-00031336-00031495 and that makes a big difference because AuVMgvei1o4-00171-00031495-00031711 spinning actually damages skin more this AuVMgvei1o4-00172-00031712-00031823 is what i've read AuVMgvei1o4-00173-00031824-00032070 and just the quick vibrations back and AuVMgvei1o4-00174-00032072-00032127 forth AuVMgvei1o4-00175-00032127-00032446 in an oscillation style is not damaging AuVMgvei1o4-00176-00032447-00032599 to skin so that makes a big big AuVMgvei1o4-00177-00032600-00032662 difference AuVMgvei1o4-00178-00032663-00032815 i love how there's a timer that tells AuVMgvei1o4-00179-00032816-00032974 you when to switch the sections of your AuVMgvei1o4-00180-00032975-00033023 face AuVMgvei1o4-00181-00033024-00033207 so let me give you guys an example you AuVMgvei1o4-00182-00033208-00033359 just press the on button AuVMgvei1o4-00183-00033360-00033574 and you can hear it vibrating and after AuVMgvei1o4-00184-00033575-00033702 i don't even know how long it is maybe AuVMgvei1o4-00185-00033703-00033871 10 seconds it'll be like AuVMgvei1o4-00186-00033872-00034279 that like you'll hear it in a sec AuVMgvei1o4-00187-00034280-00034583 okay so that noise lets you know if you AuVMgvei1o4-00188-00034584-00034695 started on this cheek AuVMgvei1o4-00189-00034696-00034871 now it's time to go up here to your AuVMgvei1o4-00190-00034872-00035039 forehead and you do it all over your AuVMgvei1o4-00191-00035040-00035174 forehead then you hear the beep again AuVMgvei1o4-00192-00035175-00035367 then you go to like maybe your nose area AuVMgvei1o4-00193-00035368-00035511 then you hear the beep again go to this AuVMgvei1o4-00194-00035512-00035695 side etc and then AuVMgvei1o4-00195-00035696-00035943 um it adds up to a minute so your whole AuVMgvei1o4-00196-00035944-00036102 face is supposed to be done in that AuVMgvei1o4-00197-00036103-00036230 amount of time i actually do AuVMgvei1o4-00198-00036231-00036399 two minutes and i do another full AuVMgvei1o4-00199-00036400-00036567 section on my neck because i just like AuVMgvei1o4-00200-00036568-00036799 to exfoliate my neck area i feel like AuVMgvei1o4-00201-00036800-00036959 makeup and dirt and stuff just builds up AuVMgvei1o4-00202-00036960-00037111 there over time so it's a really nice AuVMgvei1o4-00203-00037112-00037311 exfoliation break for your AuVMgvei1o4-00204-00037312-00037471 neck skin as well which is very very AuVMgvei1o4-00205-00037472-00037639 sensitive okay so for the cons AuVMgvei1o4-00206-00037640-00037823 there 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AATSPglGRWM-00133-00023568-00023663 can hold down AATSPglGRWM-00134-00023664-00023814 and record a video i'll show you right AATSPglGRWM-00135-00023815-00024030 now what's up guys AATSPglGRWM-00136-00024031-00024303 yeah so as you can see that right there AATSPglGRWM-00137-00024304-00024511 is the video and you can kind of add AATSPglGRWM-00138-00024512-00024807 cuts when you let go of the clip it will AATSPglGRWM-00139-00024808-00024935 stop the video recording AATSPglGRWM-00140-00024936-00025142 so you can change to another shot i can AATSPglGRWM-00141-00025143-00025278 flip my camera AATSPglGRWM-00142-00025279-00025439 and then record something here and then AATSPglGRWM-00143-00025440-00025575 if you put this arrow together it can AATSPglGRWM-00144-00025576-00025622 show you AATSPglGRWM-00145-00025623-00025822 the two clips together so instagram AATSPglGRWM-00146-00025823-00026006 makes it really easy to edit your own AATSPglGRWM-00147-00026007-00026199 videos using the app itself 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app is the align AATSPglGRWM-00162-00028639-00028767 feature a lot of people are confused AATSPglGRWM-00163-00028768-00028927 what the frick this is and the best way AATSPglGRWM-00164-00028927-00029143 to describe it is when you're trying to AATSPglGRWM-00165-00029144-00029335 transition between cuts and you want to AATSPglGRWM-00166-00029336-00029535 be in the same frame the align feature AATSPglGRWM-00167-00029536-00029702 helps you just to transition a little AATSPglGRWM-00168-00029704-00029767 bit better AATSPglGRWM-00169-00029768-00029943 so the best example of using the align AATSPglGRWM-00170-00029944-00030087 feature is in this video where i was AATSPglGRWM-00171-00030088-00030246 showing the outfits that i wear to my AATSPglGRWM-00172-00030247-00030367 zoom meetings so when i was AATSPglGRWM-00173-00030368-00030527 transitioning towards one dance move to AATSPglGRWM-00174-00030527-00030670 the next in a different outfit AATSPglGRWM-00175-00030672-00030839 i used the align feature to make sure AATSPglGRWM-00176-00030839-00031031 that i was landing in the same AATSPglGRWM-00177-00031032-00031207 shot to the next one so it just flowed AATSPglGRWM-00178-00031208-00031383 better so the align feature is great for AATSPglGRWM-00179-00031383-00031599 transitions all right so now that you AATSPglGRWM-00180-00031600-00031718 know all the features AATSPglGRWM-00181-00031719-00031887 you're like cool this is fun but like AATSPglGRWM-00182-00031888-00032031 what the frick do i post AATSPglGRWM-00183-00032032-00032199 so this goes into my next question which AATSPglGRWM-00184-00032200-00032390 is content ideas for your first AATSPglGRWM-00185-00032391-00032558 instagram reels AATSPglGRWM-00186-00032560-00032735 guys after this video i'm gonna eat a AATSPglGRWM-00187-00032736-00032983 fat chicken taco because i'm so hungry AATSPglGRWM-00188-00032984-00033055 if you AATSPglGRWM-00189-00033056-00033183 if you're so far enjoying this video AATSPglGRWM-00190-00033184-00033302 please give this video a like it does AATSPglGRWM-00191-00033303-00033431 let me know that you enjoy AATSPglGRWM-00192-00033432-00033631 this content and i'm experimenting with AATSPglGRWM-00193-00033632-00033799 this like sit down format so i hope you AATSPglGRWM-00194-00033800-00033831 guys AATSPglGRWM-00195-00033832-00034062 like it i really think when it comes to AATSPglGRWM-00196-00034063-00034231 getting content ideas on tick tock AATSPglGRWM-00197-00034232-00034455 it lands into two areas you have AATSPglGRWM-00198-00034456-00034607 educational content AATSPglGRWM-00199-00034608-00034767 and entertainment content for AATSPglGRWM-00200-00034768-00034959 educational content you can make content AATSPglGRWM-00201-00034960-00034999 around AATSPglGRWM-00202-00035000-00035231 the questions your community asks so AATSPglGRWM-00203-00035232-00035374 something you can ask yourself AATSPglGRWM-00204-00035375-00035687 is what do people ask me and how can i AATSPglGRWM-00205-00035688-00035815 turn it into a 15 AATSPglGRWM-00206-00035816-00035974 second video for example if you're a AATSPglGRWM-00207-00035975-00036143 fashionista on instagram AATSPglGRWM-00208-00036144-00036374 you can create styling tip videos on AATSPglGRWM-00209-00036375-00036599 instagram reels showcasing outfit ideas AATSPglGRWM-00210-00036600-00036846 you basically want to condense your idea AATSPglGRWM-00211-00036847-00037087 into 15 second content so one format AATSPglGRWM-00212-00037088-00037279 that i like to do in educational sphere AATSPglGRWM-00213-00037280-00037407 is literally putting a song AATSPglGRWM-00214-00037408-00037623 and just pointing to the beat we'll make AATSPglGRWM-00215-00037624-00037767 one together like i mentioned it's AATSPglGRWM-00216-00037768-00037927 insanely easy i don't understand AATSPglGRWM-00217-00037928-00037999 why people think AATSPglGRWM-00218-00038000-00038135 it's so hard oh and how did i think 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AATSPglGRWM-00233-00040328-00040479 gonna put on the text AATSPglGRWM-00234-00040480-00040774 top three tips for growing on instagram AATSPglGRWM-00235-00040775-00041007 on reels you can actually set a duration AATSPglGRWM-00236-00041008-00041223 of your text so for example if you want AATSPglGRWM-00237-00041224-00041343 the text to only be there for three AATSPglGRWM-00238-00041344-00041455 seconds on the screen you can AATSPglGRWM-00239-00041456-00041662 move it around cut it and it will cut AATSPglGRWM-00240-00041663-00041855 out when you end that time mark i'm AATSPglGRWM-00241-00041856-00042015 basically going to add a piece of text AATSPglGRWM-00242-00042016-00042118 every time i point AATSPglGRWM-00243-00042119-00042335 so people can time it to the music so AATSPglGRWM-00244-00042336-00042439 i'm going to put here AATSPglGRWM-00245-00042440-00042623 my number one tip is to post every day AATSPglGRWM-00246-00042624-00042783 on reels i can make it smaller AATSPglGRWM-00247-00042784-00042967 and then again add a duration to it so AATSPglGRWM-00248-00042968-00043167 it only appears when i point this is how AATSPglGRWM-00249-00043168-00043939 it should look altogether AATSPglGRWM-00250-00043940-00044118 [Music] AATSPglGRWM-00251-00044119-00044327 okay yeah that was that rock so AATSPglGRWM-00252-00044328-00044518 as you can see for educational content AATSPglGRWM-00253-00044519-00044790 it's really easy all you have to do is AATSPglGRWM-00254-00044791-00044846 step one AATSPglGRWM-00255-00044847-00045023 think about the top three facts you want AATSPglGRWM-00256-00045024-00045174 to explain in your industry AATSPglGRWM-00257-00045175-00045367 step two is pick a song i pick my own AATSPglGRWM-00258-00045368-00045479 song you can pick any AATSPglGRWM-00259-00045480-00045671 and then step three is to just point to AATSPglGRWM-00260-00045672-00045783 the screen and add text AATSPglGRWM-00261-00045784-00045935 this takes like five minutes i actually AATSPglGRWM-00262-00045936-00046087 have a whole worksheet on how to create AATSPglGRWM-00263-00046088-00046287 educational content in a fun way for AATSPglGRWM-00264-00046288-00046446 tick tock and instagram reels i will AATSPglGRWM-00265-00046447-00046527 link it below AATSPglGRWM-00266-00046528-00046671 all you have to do to get this worksheet AATSPglGRWM-00267-00046672-00046871 is actually attend my green room event i AATSPglGRWM-00268-00046872-00047046 have a workshop where i teach all about AATSPglGRWM-00269-00047047-00047223 instagram and youtube marketing and i AATSPglGRWM-00270-00047224-00047367 would love for you to come because in AATSPglGRWM-00271-00047368-00047527 this workshop i go more in depth AATSPglGRWM-00272-00047528-00047686 on how to use each platform how to AATSPglGRWM-00273-00047687-00047871 create viral content and i even have AATSPglGRWM-00274-00047872-00047999 some guest speakers on AATSPglGRWM-00275-00048000-00048174 the event to teach us more things you AATSPglGRWM-00276-00048175-00048327 guys can meet me one-on-one through a AATSPglGRWM-00277-00048328-00048407 virtual AATSPglGRWM-00278-00048408-00048567 zoom call so if you want to sign up for AATSPglGRWM-00279-00048568-00048767 that event and get more information of AATSPglGRWM-00280-00048768-00048967 content ideas for the educational world AATSPglGRWM-00281-00048968-00049111 click the link in the description box AATSPglGRWM-00282-00049112-00049302 the tickets are 155 AATSPglGRWM-00283-00049303-00049471 but if money's an issue we also have a AATSPglGRWM-00284-00049472-00049630 scholarship program where you can attend AATSPglGRWM-00285-00049631-00049790 for free please come i can't wait all AATSPglGRWM-00286-00049791-00049951 right the second type of content i want AATSPglGRWM-00287-00049952-00050118 to talk about is entertainment so AATSPglGRWM-00288-00050119-00050351 for entertainment ideas all i do is AATSPglGRWM-00289-00050352-00050511 really just get inspiration from AATSPglGRWM-00290-00050512-00050751 other meme accounts and just add my spin AATSPglGRWM-00291-00050752-00050927 onto it let me give you an example i was AATSPglGRWM-00292-00050928-00051111 on tik tok the other day and i saw this AATSPglGRWM-00293-00051112-00051263 trend about people saying you have to AATSPglGRWM-00294-00051264-00051399 stop romanticizing AATSPglGRWM-00295-00051400-00051590 something it's really funny and i AATSPglGRWM-00296-00051591-00051750 actually i actually made like three AATSPglGRWM-00297-00051751-00051887 different versions of the same trend AATSPglGRWM-00298-00051888-00052014 because i thought it was so funny AATSPglGRWM-00299-00052015-00052182 basically i see a trend and then i was AATSPglGRWM-00300-00052183-00052326 like wait that's kind of funny i think AATSPglGRWM-00301-00052327-00052494 this should be applied for the fact that AATSPglGRWM-00302-00052495-00052671 i'm an influencer i care a lot about my AATSPglGRWM-00303-00052672-00052799 instagram followers i think it'd be AATSPglGRWM-00304-00052800-00052919 really funny to say you know stop AATSPglGRWM-00305-00052920-00053135 romanticizing about how many likes or AATSPglGRWM-00306-00053136-00053319 views you get so then this was the end AATSPglGRWM-00307-00053320-00053494 result i have to stop giving a AATSPglGRWM-00308-00053495-00053694 about how many stories you get AATSPglGRWM-00309-00053695-00053959 no one cares and we gotta stop letting AATSPglGRWM-00310-00053960-00054166 number define our self worth okay AATSPglGRWM-00311-00054167-00054407 so make content you like that's all that AATSPglGRWM-00312-00054408-00054479 matters AATSPglGRWM-00313-00054479-00054654 so with that being said i think it's AATSPglGRWM-00314-00054655-00054791 really important to create entertainment AATSPglGRWM-00315-00054791-00054982 based content based on trends you see AATSPglGRWM-00316-00054983-00055150 and just adding your spin onto it if AATSPglGRWM-00317-00055151-00055279 you're struggling to 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AKt_pegrw1k-00026-00008208-00008542 chernobyl incident in 1986 and the AKt_pegrw1k-00027-00008543-00008919 tradition of fukushima nuclear recreated AKt_pegrw1k-00028-00008920-00009351 japan in 2011 another dimension of the AKt_pegrw1k-00029-00009352-00009710 adverse side of nuclear power AKt_pegrw1k-00030-00009711-00010006 today people look at clean and renewable AKt_pegrw1k-00031-00010007-00010335 energy sources such as solar power tidal AKt_pegrw1k-00032-00010336-00010655 waves wind turbines more and more as the AKt_pegrw1k-00033-00010656-00010951 adverse impact on environment are AKt_pegrw1k-00034-00010952-00011278 negligible in these energy sources AKt_pegrw1k-00035-00011279-00011719 international conventions such as ren 21 AKt_pegrw1k-00036-00011720-00011967 are there to promote clean and green AKt_pegrw1k-00037-00011968-00012199 energy among countries AKt_pegrw1k-00038-00012200-00012495 and governments has taken policy AKt_pegrw1k-00039-00012496-00012799 decisions to promote clean and renewable AKt_pegrw1k-00040-00012800-00013046 energies to minimize environment AKt_pegrw1k-00041-00013047-00013215 pollution AKt_pegrw1k-00042-00013216-00013503 with increasing population and human AKt_pegrw1k-00043-00013504-00013791 activities the demand for energy will AKt_pegrw1k-00044-00013791-00014127 continue to rise we need to focus on new AKt_pegrw1k-00045-00014128-00014422 ways of generating energy without AKt_pegrw1k-00046-00014423-00014699 polluting the environment it is our AKt_pegrw1k-00047-00014700-00014894 responsibility to protect the AKt_pegrw1k-00048-00014895-00015199 environment and planet earth by all AKt_pegrw1k-00049-00015200-00015535 means it is worth to re-emphasize what AKt_pegrw1k-00050-00015536-00015911 seattle told us about the planet quote AKt_pegrw1k-00051-00015912-00016183 we do not inherit the earth from our AKt_pegrw1k-00052-00016184-00016558 ancestors we borrow it from our children AKt_pegrw1k-00054-00019631-00019840 you AKHHv-REg7y-00000-00000000-00000495 [Music] AKHHv-REg7y-00001-00000496-00000759 somehow i woke up out in beverly AKHHv-REg7y-00002-00000760-00001119 up smelling like that bourbon AKHHv-REg7y-00003-00001120-00001399 i'm not shark yeah the girl's in polite AKHHv-REg7y-00004-00001400-00001663 in the club every night that's how it AKHHv-REg7y-00005-00001664-00002375 goes when you hollywood perfect AKHHv-REg7y-00006-00002376-00002855 hollywood AKHHv-REg7y-00007-00002856-00003171 that's how it goes AKHHv-REg7y-00008-00003172-00005406 [Music] AKHHv-REg7y-00009-00005407-00005742 these hollywood hoes never noticed AKHHv-REg7y-00010-00005743-00007006 [Music] AKHHv-REg7y-00011-00007008-00007503 somehow i woke AKHHv-REg7y-00012-00007504-00009527 [Music] AKHHv-REg7y-00013-00009528-00009847 that's how it goes AKHHv-REg7y-00014-00009848-00010967 [Music] AKHHv-REg7y-00015-00010968-00011199 somehow i woke up AKHHv-REg7y-00016-00011200-00012871 up smelling AKHHv-REg7y-00017-00012872-00013061 i'm not sure AKHHv-REg7y-00018-00013062-00014619 [Music] AKHHv-REg7y-00019-00014619-00015252 [Music] AKHHv-REg7y-00020-00015253-00016127 [Music] AKHHv-REg7y-00021-00016128-00016428 perfect ALfldypPBYY-00000-00001034-00001303 is it true that black people can't be ALfldypPBYY-00001-00001304-00001520 racist well that depends on the ALfldypPBYY-00002-00001521-00001805 definition you use for racism by one ALfldypPBYY-00003-00001805-00002002 definition the definition I call the ALfldypPBYY-00004-00002003-00002258 cultural definition of racism everyone ALfldypPBYY-00005-00002259-00002504 that is white is by default racists and ALfldypPBYY-00006-00002505-00002725 everyone who is black by default is ALfldypPBYY-00007-00002726-00002983 incapable of being a racist this is a ALfldypPBYY-00008-00002984-00003242 quite popular definition and it's one ALfldypPBYY-00009-00003243-00003440 reason sam Harris will not talk about ALfldypPBYY-00010-00003440-00003659 racism not because he agrees with this ALfldypPBYY-00011-00003660-00003875 definition I assure you he doesn't but ALfldypPBYY-00012-00003876-00004120 because it is so incredibly toxic the ALfldypPBYY-00013-00004121-00004349 cultural definition is as follows a ALfldypPBYY-00014-00004350-00004667 racist is one who is both privileged and ALfldypPBYY-00015-00004668-00004991 socialized on the basis of race by a ALfldypPBYY-00016-00004992-00005315 white supremacist system racist system ALfldypPBYY-00017-00005316-00005695 the term applies to all white people in ALfldypPBYY-00018-00005696-00005902 other words people of European descent ALfldypPBYY-00019-00005903-00006181 living in the United States regardless ALfldypPBYY-00020-00006182-00006493 of class gender religion culture or ALfldypPBYY-00021-00006494-00006817 sexuality by this definition people of ALfldypPBYY-00022-00006818-00007178 color cannot be racist as people within ALfldypPBYY-00023-00007179-00007459 the US system they do not have the power ALfldypPBYY-00024-00007461-00007766 to back up their prejudices hostilities ALfldypPBYY-00025-00007767-00008023 or acts of discrimination I want to ALfldypPBYY-00026-00008025-00008278 point out immediately by my preferred ALfldypPBYY-00027-00008279-00008521 definition this definition is racists ALfldypPBYY-00028-00008522-00008789 now the definition I use does away with ALfldypPBYY-00029-00008790-00009002 the power dynamic and is meant to be ALfldypPBYY-00030-00009003-00009324 universal and it is as follows ALfldypPBYY-00031-00009325-00009599 racism is this conscious act of ALfldypPBYY-00032-00009600-00009803 discriminating against another race ALfldypPBYY-00033-00009804-00010320 solely because of their race ALfldypPBYY-00034-00010321-00010548 dynamics are often used in definitions ALfldypPBYY-00035-00010549-00010848 of bigotry of one kind or the other but ALfldypPBYY-00036-00010849-00011118 this leads to asymmetrical definitions ALfldypPBYY-00037-00011119-00011424 and so are not Universal izybelle thus I ALfldypPBYY-00038-00011425-00011655 contend power dynamics should be ALfldypPBYY-00039-00011656-00011910 separated out for this reason now you ALfldypPBYY-00040-00011911-00012069 might think the cultural definition of ALfldypPBYY-00041-00012070-00012263 racism is just racist against white ALfldypPBYY-00042-00012264-00012543 people or people of European descent but ALfldypPBYY-00043-00012544-00012759 is racist against all people because it ALfldypPBYY-00044-00012760-00012974 assumes black people are powerless and ALfldypPBYY-00045-00012975-00013166 it does not even consider Asians or ALfldypPBYY-00046-00013168-00013425 Latin Americans by creating a culturally ALfldypPBYY-00047-00013426-00013686 specific definition we are bundling all ALfldypPBYY-00048-00013687-00013902 kinds of variables together and leaving ALfldypPBYY-00049-00013903-00014130 out all kinds of other dependent ALfldypPBYY-00050-00014131-00014297 variables such as a relationship between ALfldypPBYY-00051-00014298-00014646 other ethnic groups in short we are ALfldypPBYY-00052-00014647-00014904 making a bigoted mess of the definition ALfldypPBYY-00053-00014905-00015272 itself the three primary concepts in the ALfldypPBYY-00054-00015273-00015624 cultural definition of racism are system ALfldypPBYY-00055-00015625-00015957 issues the power issue and the innate ALfldypPBYY-00056-00015958-00016482 oppressor issue the cultural definition ALfldypPBYY-00057-00016483-00016752 assumes that we have a racist system in ALfldypPBYY-00058-00016753-00017150 the United States do we to be a systems ALfldypPBYY-00059-00017151-00017408 issue it has to be codified into law ALfldypPBYY-00060-00017409-00017742 system issues are legal issues in other ALfldypPBYY-00061-00017743-00018042 words white only bathrooms white people ALfldypPBYY-00062-00018043-00018249 in the front and black people in the ALfldypPBYY-00063-00018250-00018458 back if you have no laws that ALfldypPBYY-00064-00018459-00018756 differentiate races then you do not have ALfldypPBYY-00065-00018757-00019044 a racist system this does not mean you ALfldypPBYY-00066-00019045-00019302 don't have racism it just means it is ALfldypPBYY-00067-00019303-00019647 not a systems issue show me a single law ALfldypPBYY-00068-00019648-00019875 that does this and I will show you an ALfldypPBYY-00069-00019876-00020109 illegal law yes I know affirmative ALfldypPBYY-00070-00020110-00020340 action laws are examples of illegal laws ALfldypPBYY-00071-00020341-00020553 and they do discriminate by virtue of ALfldypPBYY-00072-00020554-00020817 race but they are not white supremacist ALfldypPBYY-00073-00020818-00021015 laws they are white guilt laws ALfldypPBYY-00074-00021016-00021291 thus white supremacist system does not ALfldypPBYY-00075-00021292-00021578 exist in the United States today our ALfldypPBYY-00076-00021579-00021831 Asian Americans discriminated against ALfldypPBYY-00077-00021832-00022134 they certainly were in 1942 when we put ALfldypPBYY-00078-00022135-00022377 them in internment camps a legal action ALfldypPBYY-00079-00022378-00022572 that affected only japanese-americans ALfldypPBYY-00080-00022573-00022812 now unlike black Americans Asian ALfldypPBYY-00081-00022813-00022974 Americans are generally better educated ALfldypPBYY-00082-00022975-00023208 and more affluent than any other ethnic ALfldypPBYY-00083-00023209-00023430 including white Americans by a ALfldypPBYY-00084-00023431-00023692 significant margin how is this possible ALfldypPBYY-00085-00023693-00023934 if we live in a society that is supposed ALfldypPBYY-00086-00023935-00024195 to be looking out for whitey generally ALfldypPBYY-00087-00024196-00024348 black Americans do worse than any other ALfldypPBYY-00088-00024349-00024652 racial group including Latinos now in ALfldypPBYY-00089-00024653-00024828 terms of Education black Americans are ALfldypPBYY-00090-00024829-00025033 better educated but financially Latinos ALfldypPBYY-00091-00025034-00025305 tend to do better make of this what you ALfldypPBYY-00092-00025306-00025477 want but understand that the reasons for ALfldypPBYY-00093-00025478-00025740 this are complicated it is assumed it ALfldypPBYY-00094-00025741-00025930 has a lot to do with culture for example ALfldypPBYY-00095-00025931-00026184 the Latino culture when going from first ALfldypPBYY-00096-00026185-00026389 generation to 2nd generation tends to ALfldypPBYY-00097-00026389-00026635 get better educated in fact Latinos are ALfldypPBYY-00098-00026636-00026935 the only second generation American ALfldypPBYY-00099-00026936-00027037 group that does this ALfldypPBYY-00100-00027038-00027304 making any kind of extrapolation between ALfldypPBYY-00101-00027305-00027639 groups difficult at best so why are ALfldypPBYY-00102-00027641-00027895 black Americans doing so poorly when ALfldypPBYY-00103-00027895-00028306 other ethnic groups are doing better by ALfldypPBYY-00104-00028307-00028537 the universal definition of racism black ALfldypPBYY-00105-00028538-00028743 people as a group are probably the most ALfldypPBYY-00106-00028744-00028977 racist Americans in America right now ALfldypPBYY-00107-00028977-00029274 racism leads to anger and anger leads to ALfldypPBYY-00108-00029275-00029499 violence and this violence does not lead ALfldypPBYY-00109-00029500-00029677 to the killing of other races it just ALfldypPBYY-00110-00029677-00029889 leads to the killing of themselves it is ALfldypPBYY-00111-00029890-00030058 13 times more likely that a black person ALfldypPBYY-00112-00030058-00030283 will kill another black person then all ALfldypPBYY-00113-00030283-00030556 other races combined whereas if you are ALfldypPBYY-00114-00030557-00030799 Latino the chances that you will be ALfldypPBYY-00115-00030800-00030967 killed by another Latino is slightly ALfldypPBYY-00116-00030968-00031177 less than you will be killed by a white ALfldypPBYY-00117-00031177-00031429 guy based on the FBI reports white guys ALfldypPBYY-00118-00031430-00031612 are three times more likely to kill a ALfldypPBYY-00119-00031613-00031858 Latino than a black person it is ALfldypPBYY-00120-00031858-00032037 important to understand the black people ALfldypPBYY-00121-00032038-00032289 in the United States are segregationist ALfldypPBYY-00122-00032290-00032545 and this segregationist attitude is ALfldypPBYY-00123-00032545-00032796 codified in white guilt of affirmative ALfldypPBYY-00124-00032797-00033067 action so yes I blame white people for ALfldypPBYY-00125-00033068-00033355 helping create a perfect storm of guilt ALfldypPBYY-00126-00033356-00033765 and perceived oppression to maximize the ALfldypPBYY-00127-00033766-00034102 nocebo effect yes there are white ALfldypPBYY-00128-00034103-00034383 racists but the most influential racist ALfldypPBYY-00129-00034384-00034579 in a black person's lives are the black ALfldypPBYY-00130-00034580-00034873 racist people that constant remind them ALfldypPBYY-00131-00034874-00035064 that they are oppressed and that whitey ALfldypPBYY-00132-00035065-00035337 is out to get them let me be clear ALfldypPBYY-00133-00035338-00035623 black racists are all the people that ALfldypPBYY-00134-00035624-00035860 cling to the bigoted idea of the ALfldypPBYY-00135-00035861-00036148 cultural definition of racism as such ALfldypPBYY-00136-00036149-00036430 white people are probably constitute the ALfldypPBYY-00137-00036431-00036555 largest number or black ALfldypPBYY-00138-00036556-00036945 racists this idea is incredibly toxic to ALfldypPBYY-00139-00036946-00037146 rational discourse because the ALfldypPBYY-00140-00037147-00037419 definition that this idea is based on is ALfldypPBYY-00141-00037420-00037746 incredibly irrational so we all dance ALfldypPBYY-00142-00037747-00037971 the pretzel dance when we try to apply ALfldypPBYY-00143-00037972-00038292 the cultural definition of racism it is ALfldypPBYY-00144-00038293-00038568 the / bial that screws us ALfldypPBYY-00145-00038569-00038937 all ideas like this need to be put into ALfldypPBYY-00146-00038938-00039114 sharp focus and we need to closely ALfldypPBYY-00147-00039115-00039360 examine the effects of these emotionally ALfldypPBYY-00148-00039361-00039660 driven concepts we need to be clear on ALfldypPBYY-00149-00039661-00039876 our definitions we cannot assume we have ALfldypPBYY-00150-00039877-00040126 the same definitions because my ALfldypPBYY-00151-00040127-00040386 definition and the cultural definition ALfldypPBYY-00152-00040387-00040735 racism are incompatible ideas this is ALfldypPBYY-00153-00040736-00041007 not just academic real harm can result ALfldypPBYY-00154-00041008-00041196 from undermining the salka logical ALfldypPBYY-00155-00041197-00041473 well-being of a person and the type of ALfldypPBYY-00156-00041474-00041676 idea is embedded in this definition in ALfldypPBYY-00157-00041677-00041860 my opinion have been a major driving ALfldypPBYY-00158-00041861-00042048 force in harming Americans in the United ALfldypPBYY-00159-00042049-00042348 States today why are black men so ALfldypPBYY-00160-00042349-00042618 violent in part is probably because we ALfldypPBYY-00161-00042619-00042849 are telling them they are victims men ALfldypPBYY-00162-00042850-00043089 hate being victims and will bend over ALfldypPBYY-00163-00043090-00043326 backwards not to be a victim sis does ALfldypPBYY-00164-00043327-00043573 not mean that all men won't be victims ALfldypPBYY-00165-00043574-00043863 it just means it's not a valid masculine ALfldypPBYY-00166-00043864-00044110 trait if a black man hurts someone by ALfldypPBYY-00167-00044111-00044367 definition he is no longer a victim he ALfldypPBYY-00168-00044368-00044629 is a perpetrator and that is a position ALfldypPBYY-00169-00044630-00044823 of power they are seeking because ALfldypPBYY-00170-00044824-00045073 calling him oppressed makes him a victim ALfldypPBYY-00171-00045074-00045373 as a racial group black men are twice as ALfldypPBYY-00172-00045374-00045604 violent as white men I am NOT surprised ALfldypPBYY-00173-00045605-00045837 that is what forcing a man to be a ALfldypPBYY-00174-00045838-00046080 victim does but you don't understand me ALfldypPBYY-00175-00046081-00046308 because I'm black is a statement of a ALfldypPBYY-00176-00046309-00046683 victim no one has experienced anyone's ALfldypPBYY-00177-00046684-00046965 subjective experience not yet anyways ALfldypPBYY-00178-00046966-00047185 and to people going through the same ALfldypPBYY-00179-00047186-00047460 external experience may experience a ALfldypPBYY-00180-00047461-00047646 completely different subjective ALfldypPBYY-00181-00047647-00047904 experience so to assume you understand ALfldypPBYY-00182-00047905-00048069 anyone's experience because of an ALfldypPBYY-00183-00048070-00048402 external experience is presumptuous you ALfldypPBYY-00184-00048403-00048564 have to explain it if you want it to be ALfldypPBYY-00185-00048565-00048783 understood my experience is different ALfldypPBYY-00186-00048784-00049140 than yours period mindsets are critical ALfldypPBYY-00187-00049141-00049398 to our well-being and success a victim ALfldypPBYY-00188-00049399-00049654 mindset does not fit well into a growth ALfldypPBYY-00189-00049655-00049754 mindset ALfldypPBYY-00190-00049755-00049961 and is a growth mindset we need to be ALfldypPBYY-00191-00049962-00050204 teaching not the fixed mindset of the ALfldypPBYY-00192-00050205-00050462 regressive left victimology that is ALfldypPBYY-00193-00050463-00050675 engraved in the cultural definition of ALfldypPBYY-00194-00050676-00051002 racism we are not all the same and I ALfldypPBYY-00195-00051003-00051239 hope we never will be to be able to ALfldypPBYY-00196-00051240-00051452 celebrate our differences with a growth ALfldypPBYY-00197-00051453-00051871 mindset will require us to put down our ALfldypPBYY-00198-00051872-00052151 precious of scale and realize ALfldypPBYY-00199-00052152-00052404 differences can both be advantages and ALfldypPBYY-00200-00052405-00052628 disadvantages learning how to leverage ALfldypPBYY-00201-00052629-00052919 our personal experiences is the job we ALfldypPBYY-00202-00052920-00053204 all face no one has perfect freedom and ALfldypPBYY-00203-00053204-00053455 perceived advantages can be handicaps ALfldypPBYY-00204-00053457-00053684 and when no any trust fund babies or ALfldypPBYY-00205-00053685-00053984 lottery winners hardships can be and ALfldypPBYY-00206-00053985-00054241 often our character building we evolved ALfldypPBYY-00207-00054242-00054466 to deal with the hardships of living our ALfldypPBYY-00208-00054466-00054761 fondest memories often include some ALfldypPBYY-00209-00054762-00055070 hardships we undermine these experiences ALfldypPBYY-00210-00055071-00055342 when we character rise them on the ALfldypPBYY-00211-00055344-00055775 binary scale of good or bad we also take ALfldypPBYY-00212-00055776-00056012 away people's agencies when we tell them ALfldypPBYY-00213-00056013-00056288 that they can't be oppressors they can ALfldypPBYY-00214-00056289-00056542 only be victims problems can be ALfldypPBYY-00215-00056544-00056777 identified through group analysis but ALfldypPBYY-00216-00056778-00057038 solutions are best applied at the ALfldypPBYY-00217-00057039-00057292 individual level we can't stop treating ALfldypPBYY-00218-00057294-00057473 people as individuals just because they ALfldypPBYY-00219-00057474-00057655 are a member of an identified group ALfldypPBYY-00220-00057657-00057899 which is precisely what the cultural ALfldypPBYY-00221-00057900-00058208 definition of racism does but worse the ALfldypPBYY-00222-00058209-00058405 cultural definition of racism is based ALfldypPBYY-00223-00058407-00058754 on a lie the racism is systemic and it ALfldypPBYY-00224-00058754-00058837 isn't anymore ALfldypPBYY-00225-00058838-00059174 sure with over sensitivity training we ALfldypPBYY-00226-00059175-00059435 can see racism everywhere but is that ALfldypPBYY-00227-00059436-00059684 the best course of action to take to be ALfldypPBYY-00228-00059685-00059926 overly sensitive to every act of racism ALfldypPBYY-00229-00059927-00060203 that may be a result of subconscious ALfldypPBYY-00230-00060204-00060524 behavior or fear may be more angry than ALfldypPBYY-00231-00060525-00060701 racism only one thing makes me more ALfldypPBYY-00232-00060702-00061001 angry than racism is black people that ALfldypPBYY-00233-00061002-00061551 are shocked at racism are you from ALfldypPBYY-00234-00061552-00061799 there's nothing a white person could ALfldypPBYY-00235-00061800-00062078 ever say to me that will ever catch me ALfldypPBYY-00236-00062079-00062401 Oh God ALfldypPBYY-00237-00062402-00062707 being called a racist can get you fired ALfldypPBYY-00238-00062708-00062938 or worse it's not a fear that black ALfldypPBYY-00239-00062939-00063134 people generally have to worry about and ALfldypPBYY-00240-00063135-00063376 they little to fear if people are buying ALfldypPBYY-00241-00063377-00063566 into the cultural definition of racism ALfldypPBYY-00242-00063566-00063953 yes I get implicit biases but that's not ALfldypPBYY-00243-00063954-00064207 racism that is a stereotype we all have ALfldypPBYY-00244-00064208-00064376 them and no one should be called a ALfldypPBYY-00245-00064377-00064565 racist because of them blaming people ALfldypPBYY-00246-00064566-00064823 for subconscious categories is an act of ALfldypPBYY-00247-00064824-00065144 divisive nosaka is a racist a funny ALfldypPBYY-00248-00065145-00065332 racist to be sure but a racist niveau ALfldypPBYY-00249-00065333-00065573 less I like Chris Rock even if he is a ALfldypPBYY-00250-00065574-00065776 racist son of a and I encourage ALfldypPBYY-00251-00065777-00065969 everyone to like and care about racists ALfldypPBYY-00252-00065970-00066242 labeling someone a racist today usually ALfldypPBYY-00253-00066243-00066518 signs the end of a conversation but it ALfldypPBYY-00254-00066519-00066674 shouldn't calling someone a racist ALfldypPBYY-00255-00066675-00066800 should not be the end of the ALfldypPBYY-00256-00066801-00066965 conversation it should be the beginning ALfldypPBYY-00257-00066966-00067226 of the conversation about why they feel ALfldypPBYY-00258-00067227-00067457 that way give me money give me funny ALfldypPBYY-00259-00067458-00067730 give me something to live for give me ALfldypPBYY-00260-00067731-00067940 money give me funny give me something to ALfldypPBYY-00261-00067941-00068441 live for your logics insane your rules ALfldypPBYY-00262-00068442-00068969 are in name all you do is create more ALfldypPBYY-00263-00068970-00069341 pain give me money give me funny give me ALfldypPBYY-00264-00069342-00069475 something to live for ALfldypPBYY-00265-00069476-00069746 give me money give me sunny give me ALfldypPBYY-00266-00069747-00070070 something to live for AMRa23wbydk-00000-00000000-00000281 former Starbucks worker Jason Saxton AMRa23wbydk-00001-00000282-00000593 also testified at the hearing in April AMRa23wbydk-00002-00000594-00000827 our store won our election by a AMRa23wbydk-00003-00000827-00001157 landslide 26-5 despite all of the AMRa23wbydk-00004-00001158-00001324 threats and intimidation AMRa23wbydk-00005-00001325-00001558 Starbucks retaliation and union busting AMRa23wbydk-00006-00001559-00001745 ramped up even more after we won our AMRa23wbydk-00007-00001746-00001925 election we were constantly being AMRa23wbydk-00008-00001926-00002123 watched and managers listened in on our AMRa23wbydk-00009-00002124-00002351 conversations through our headsets store AMRa23wbydk-00010-00002352-00002567 hours were constantly changing and hours AMRa23wbydk-00011-00002568-00002710 kept getting cut AMRa23wbydk-00012-00002711-00002891 people were fired right on the shop AMRa23wbydk-00013-00002892-00002968 floor AMRa23wbydk-00014-00002969-00003166 they fired seven of our union members AMRa23wbydk-00015-00003167-00003383 two of them were shift supervisors two AMRa23wbydk-00016-00003384-00003575 partners requested medical and maternity AMRa23wbydk-00017-00003576-00003820 leave management refused to sign off on AMRa23wbydk-00018-00003821-00004036 their leave and they were terminated AMRa23wbydk-00019-00004037-00004217 several people quit including my wife AMRa23wbydk-00020-00004218-00004420 some of us were told that we should look AMRa23wbydk-00021-00004421-00004577 for another job AMRa23wbydk-00022-00004578-00004870 in July I led a two-day unfair Labor AMRa23wbydk-00023-00004871-00004997 practice strike and delivered our AMRa23wbydk-00024-00004998-00005279 demands a month later I was fired for AMRa23wbydk-00025-00005280-00005488 supposedly being disruptive AMRa23wbydk-00026-00005489-00005729 that was former Starbucks worker Jason AMRa23wbydk-00027-00005730-00006029 Saxton testifying Wednesday before the AMRa23wbydk-00028-00006030-00006275 Senate he joins us now from Augusta AMRa23wbydk-00029-00006276-00006520 Georgia Jason welcome to democracy Now AMRa23wbydk-00030-00006522-00006755 can you talk about the significance of AMRa23wbydk-00031-00006756-00006970 this hearing and the grilling of the AMRa23wbydk-00032-00006972-00007198 well usually everyone thinks of him as AMRa23wbydk-00033-00007200-00007625 the Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz but in AMRa23wbydk-00034-00007626-00007960 fact he just resigned AMRa23wbydk-00035-00007961-00008237 yeah thank you for having me AMRa23wbydk-00036-00008238-00008651 um you know yesterday's hearing was a AMRa23wbydk-00037-00008652-00009017 very interesting few hours AMRa23wbydk-00038-00009018-00009203 um Howard Schultz AMRa23wbydk-00039-00009204-00009533 you know did what he always does and you AMRa23wbydk-00040-00009534-00009731 know misrepresented what was actually AMRa23wbydk-00041-00009732-00009953 going on in stores and maybe that's just AMRa23wbydk-00042-00009954-00010145 because he doesn't know AMRa23wbydk-00043-00010146-00010331 um even though he said he he came back AMRa23wbydk-00044-00010332-00010631 for operations and uh for the customers AMRa23wbydk-00045-00010632-00010799 even though he constantly says he's AMRa23wbydk-00046-00010800-00011351 there for the partners AMRa23wbydk-00047-00011352-00011614 some background Your Own Story what AMRa23wbydk-00048-00011615-00011974 happened uh in July what led uh to your AMRa23wbydk-00049-00011975-00012346 being fired last July from the Augusta AMRa23wbydk-00050-00012347-00012563 Georgia Starbucks store where you were AMRa23wbydk-00051-00012564-00012659 working AMRa23wbydk-00052-00012660-00013030 yeah so at my store we decided that we AMRa23wbydk-00053-00013031-00013169 were going to unionize because we were AMRa23wbydk-00054-00013169-00013457 facing a lot of staffing issues people's AMRa23wbydk-00055-00013458-00013679 hours kept getting tied the training was AMRa23wbydk-00056-00013680-00014008 insufficient Health Care coverage was AMRa23wbydk-00057-00014009-00014269 too expensive still it's too expensive AMRa23wbydk-00058-00014269-00014585 and my myself personally went on AMRa23wbydk-00059-00014586-00014885 Parental leave to have a so my wife and AMRa23wbydk-00060-00014886-00015065 I could have our daughter and it was AMRa23wbydk-00061-00015066-00015215 insufficient it was just long enough for AMRa23wbydk-00062-00015216-00015388 us to develop postpartum depression and AMRa23wbydk-00063-00015390-00015616 you'd have to go right back to work so AMRa23wbydk-00064-00015618-00015797 we went forward with that and we kept AMRa23wbydk-00065-00015797-00015941 dealing with those issues after our AMRa23wbydk-00066-00015941-00016241 election and that is also when they AMRa23wbydk-00067-00016241-00016535 started firing a lot of us and they AMRa23wbydk-00068-00016536-00016744 fired a shift supervisor and so we AMRa23wbydk-00069-00016745-00017003 decided to do a walkout which led to a AMRa23wbydk-00070-00017004-00017267 two-day strike and after that two-day AMRa23wbydk-00071-00017268-00017453 strike I went back to work everything AMRa23wbydk-00072-00017454-00017711 was good went on vacation and came back AMRa23wbydk-00073-00017712-00017963 and I was fired and they said that I was AMRa23wbydk-00074-00017964-00018286 being disruptive now again on the day of AMRa23wbydk-00075-00018287-00018479 the walkout I wasn't being disruptive AMRa23wbydk-00076-00018480-00018700 and not only that I wasn't a partner or AMRa23wbydk-00077-00018701-00018893 I wasn't working at the time I was off AMRa23wbydk-00078-00018894-00019049 the clock AMRa23wbydk-00079-00019050-00019300 and and what's your sense Jason from uh AMRa23wbydk-00080-00019301-00019517 the other employees at that store but AMRa23wbydk-00081-00019518-00019805 also at Starbucks stores elsewhere uh if AMRa23wbydk-00082-00019806-00019961 you said you mentioned some of them now AMRa23wbydk-00083-00019962-00020321 but what working conditions are like uh AMRa23wbydk-00084-00020322-00020549 for Starbucks employees what precisely AMRa23wbydk-00085-00020550-00020771 are the health benefits they get you AMRa23wbydk-00086-00020772-00021089 said it's very expensive uh time off how AMRa23wbydk-00087-00021090-00021263 many hours a week they work if you could AMRa23wbydk-00088-00021264-00021413 just say AMRa23wbydk-00089-00021414-00021700 um you know what are those conditions AMRa23wbydk-00090-00021701-00022127 I mean the conditions are AMRa23wbydk-00091-00022128-00022541 insane right so a partner which is what AMRa23wbydk-00092-00022542-00022727 Star Wars calls their employees can work AMRa23wbydk-00093-00022728-00022955 one week 25 hours and the next week AMRa23wbydk-00094-00022956-00023153 where it's five hours AMRa23wbydk-00095-00023154-00023417 so there's no stability in how much AMRa23wbydk-00096-00023418-00023578 you're earning and how many hours you're AMRa23wbydk-00097-00023579-00023783 getting so you can't afford to pay your AMRa23wbydk-00098-00023784-00023944 bills and you have to choose between gas AMRa23wbydk-00099-00023945-00024280 and food the other working conditions AMRa23wbydk-00100-00024281-00024580 like on the shop floor would be you know AMRa23wbydk-00101-00024581-00024803 if you're down in warming you know you AMRa23wbydk-00102-00024804-00024958 could burn yourself consistently and AMRa23wbydk-00103-00024959-00025097 that happens a lot with a lot of the AMRa23wbydk-00104-00025098-00025294 products that go in the ovens you know AMRa23wbydk-00105-00025295-00025558 we're constantly moving rapidly and AMRa23wbydk-00106-00025559-00025811 constantly understaffed and having to AMRa23wbydk-00107-00025812-00025978 meet the goals that Starbucks wants us AMRa23wbydk-00108-00025979-00026290 to me which is 45 to 60 seconds out the AMRa23wbydk-00109-00026291-00026633 window times you know for dry cleaning AMRa23wbydk-00110-00026633-00026849 let me ask you something Jason I think AMRa23wbydk-00111-00026850-00026995 the number's something like AMRa23wbydk-00112-00026995-00027352 293 Starbucks stores have voted to AMRa23wbydk-00113-00027354-00027629 organize of the 9000 and seems to be AMRa23wbydk-00114-00027630-00027881 going across the country AMRa23wbydk-00115-00027882-00028151 um Howard Schultz was grilled about the AMRa23wbydk-00116-00028152-00028349 bargaining session something like there AMRa23wbydk-00117-00028350-00028696 have been 85 but in many of those cases AMRa23wbydk-00118-00028697-00028918 is it true the Starbucks officials work AMRa23wbydk-00119-00028919-00029296 out walk out within 15 minutes AMRa23wbydk-00120-00029297-00029524 so I don't have any first-hand AMRa23wbydk-00121-00029525-00029843 experience because Starbucks has refused AMRa23wbydk-00122-00029844-00030089 to negotiate with my store AMRa23wbydk-00123-00030089-00030358 um but from what I have heard from other AMRa23wbydk-00124-00030360-00030724 locations is that yes they it's been six AMRa23wbydk-00125-00030725-00030964 minutes at one bargaining session and AMRa23wbydk-00126-00030966-00031151 it's simply because they don't like that AMRa23wbydk-00127-00031152-00031337 there are people on Zoom which I think AMRa23wbydk-00128-00031338-00031570 it's funny they they Howard Schultz said AMRa23wbydk-00129-00031572-00031774 during the hearing that they didn't want AMRa23wbydk-00130-00031775-00031973 extra people to be in the background on AMRa23wbydk-00131-00031974-00032158 the zoom calls but like AMRa23wbydk-00132-00032160-00032368 you're constantly listening to us and AMRa23wbydk-00133-00032369-00032585 surveilling us when we're working and AMRa23wbydk-00134-00032586-00032783 then using that to terminate us and AMRa23wbydk-00135-00032784-00032974 write us up you know and then also AMRa23wbydk-00136-00032975-00033167 Starbucks policy allows customers to AMRa23wbydk-00137-00033168-00033443 come in and record us all day long and AMRa23wbydk-00138-00033444-00033718 we can't do anything about it AMRa23wbydk-00139-00033719-00034001 finally you testified before the Senate AMRa23wbydk-00140-00034002-00034409 but as we wrap up your final comment AMRa23wbydk-00141-00034410-00034631 um not only to Starbucks workers around AMRa23wbydk-00142-00034632-00034799 the country but for people to understand AMRa23wbydk-00143-00034800-00035033 Starbucks is obviously a global AMRa23wbydk-00144-00035034-00035249 Corporation about what people should AMRa23wbydk-00145-00035250-00035465 know about Starbucks AMRa23wbydk-00146-00035466-00035662 I think the biggest thing that people AMRa23wbydk-00147-00035663-00035951 should know about Starbucks is that AMRa23wbydk-00148-00035952-00036131 while they tout themselves as a AMRa23wbydk-00149-00036132-00036311 progressive company well they tout that AMRa23wbydk-00150-00036312-00036539 their partner first their actions and AMRa23wbydk-00151-00036540-00036739 even in Howard Schultz's words yesterday AMRa23wbydk-00152-00036740-00037043 don't show that they actually care to AMRa23wbydk-00153-00037044-00037259 listen and understand AMRa23wbydk-00154-00037260-00037499 that directs relationship that Howard AMRa23wbydk-00155-00037500-00037768 Hill says he wants is just so they can AMRa23wbydk-00156-00037769-00037924 continue to AMRa23wbydk-00157-00037925-00038218 dictate what they want to do and not AMRa23wbydk-00158-00038219-00038405 actually give the partners a chance to AMRa23wbydk-00159-00038406-00038579 say what's going on in their store and AMRa23wbydk-00160-00038580-00038783 what they need to be whole AMRa23wbydk-00161-00038784-00038974 well Jason Saxton want to thank you for AMRa23wbydk-00162-00038975-00039173 being with us former Starbucks shift AMRa23wbydk-00163-00039174-00039371 manager terminated after leading the AMRa23wbydk-00164-00039372-00039557 Union drive at a Starbucks store in AMRa23wbydk-00165-00039558-00039845 Augusta Georgia he testified on AMRa23wbydk-00166-00039846-00040030 Wednesday before the Senate help AMRa23wbydk-00167-00040031-00040240 committee health education labor and AMRa23wbydk-00168-00040241-00040385 pensions AMRa23wbydk-00169-00040386-00040621 this is democracy now AMRa23wbydk-00170-00040622-00040840 democracynow.org when we come back AMRa23wbydk-00171-00040841-00041201 filmmaker Jennifer Fox joins us five AMRa23wbydk-00172-00041202-00041452 years ago she made a remarkable film AMRa23wbydk-00173-00041453-00041724 about a coach that abused her as a child AMRa23wbydk-00174-00041725-00042089 now she's named him Ted Nash the AMRa23wbydk-00175-00042090-00042401 legendary Olympic rower and Coach she'll AMRa23wbydk-00176-00042402-00042642 join us stay with us AMRa23wbydk-00177-00042643-00042849 [Music] AQrlisFBdWc-00000-00000101-00000437 yeah everybody welcome back to the AQrlisFBdWc-00001-00000438-00000734 walkthrough we are ready now to take AQrlisFBdWc-00002-00000735-00000893 these stairs down because everything AQrlisFBdWc-00003-00000894-00001073 else is cleared up here oh wait actually AQrlisFBdWc-00004-00001074-00001514 I kind of just realized I forgot to AQrlisFBdWc-00005-00001515-00001829 erase my marks well at least this mark AQrlisFBdWc-00006-00001830-00001979 those those ones I guess I can leave for AQrlisFBdWc-00007-00001980-00002201 the sake of remembrance of the puzzle AQrlisFBdWc-00008-00002202-00002335 but yeah I already got that treasure AQrlisFBdWc-00009-00002336-00002540 chest so I can just kind of flip flop AQrlisFBdWc-00010-00002541-00002908 down here at all well they are not AQrlisFBdWc-00011-00002909-00003182 getting past that quicksand obstacle or AQrlisFBdWc-00012-00003183-00003461 are we because we can solidify the AQrlisFBdWc-00013-00003461-00003829 quicksand just as any other sand with AQrlisFBdWc-00014-00003830-00004138 the powers of the sand wand and this is AQrlisFBdWc-00015-00004139-00004297 why I didn't come here though come down AQrlisFBdWc-00016-00004298-00004556 here earlier without the key because I AQrlisFBdWc-00017-00004557-00004727 don't have to just go right back up AQrlisFBdWc-00018-00004728-00005081 anyway all right so now a couple of AQrlisFBdWc-00019-00005082-00005263 drones hanging out over here you can AQrlisFBdWc-00020-00005264-00005461 slid up by them all day and all night AQrlisFBdWc-00021-00005462-00005893 and then rock their world yeah how you AQrlisFBdWc-00022-00005894-00006193 like those apples oh and then another AQrlisFBdWc-00023-00006194-00006386 one just spawns which means that we AQrlisFBdWc-00024-00006387-00006580 probably need to use them for something AQrlisFBdWc-00025-00006581-00006856 so there's these two switches over here AQrlisFBdWc-00026-00006858-00007151 and we need both of them to be on the AQrlisFBdWc-00027-00007152-00007396 switches at once because as soon as oh AQrlisFBdWc-00028-00007397-00007817 shoot bow as soon as you get off of one AQrlisFBdWc-00029-00007818-00007988 of the switches the star will AQrlisFBdWc-00030-00007989-00008239 immediately close so yeah you kind of AQrlisFBdWc-00031-00008240-00008483 you kind of be neat to be the one to AQrlisFBdWc-00032-00008484-00008689 cross that threshold because watch as AQrlisFBdWc-00033-00008690-00008846 soon as one of them wakes up and moves AQrlisFBdWc-00034-00008847-00009077 off the switch you'll be able to come on AQrlisFBdWc-00035-00009078-00009271 God come on guys you can do it you're AQrlisFBdWc-00036-00009272-00009431 there they're not that's exactly what AQrlisFBdWc-00037-00009432-00009556 happened if you were to walk on the AQrlisFBdWc-00038-00009557-00009760 switch so if you only put one on the AQrlisFBdWc-00039-00009761-00009914 switch and a link on the other switch AQrlisFBdWc-00040-00009915-00010099 and then try to go through the door you AQrlisFBdWc-00041-00010100-00010499 ain't getting through there now over AQrlisFBdWc-00042-00010500-00010876 here to the left is a rather tricky AQrlisFBdWc-00043-00010877-00011192 stamp station to get to because you've AQrlisFBdWc-00044-00011193-00011410 got quicksand you've got holes that you AQrlisFBdWc-00045-00011411-00011728 can jump in yeah AQrlisFBdWc-00046-00011729-00012002 Spears of doom and that worked out a lot AQrlisFBdWc-00047-00012003-00012227 better that it did on other playthroughs AQrlisFBdWc-00048-00012228-00012416 let me tell you I must have fell in the AQrlisFBdWc-00049-00012417-00012824 sand like 20 times so that worked out AQrlisFBdWc-00050-00012825-00013190 pretty well I guess practice pays off or AQrlisFBdWc-00051-00013191-00013803 sheer dumb luck in my timing oh I AQrlisFBdWc-00052-00013804-00013947 thought I was gonna put me back over by AQrlisFBdWc-00053-00013947-00014150 the stamp station because you know like AQrlisFBdWc-00054-00014151-00014310 if you go on the quicksand it'll put you AQrlisFBdWc-00055-00014311-00014574 at the last stable location when you had AQrlisFBdWc-00056-00014575-00014750 your feet but that was at the stamp AQrlisFBdWc-00057-00014751-00015330 station not here oh well I will accept AQrlisFBdWc-00058-00015331-00015653 this with no problem whatsoever like but AQrlisFBdWc-00059-00015654-00015816 this year I'm gonna stand on because you AQrlisFBdWc-00060-00015816-00016022 know it's next solid spot so if I should AQrlisFBdWc-00061-00016023-00016100 fall in AQrlisFBdWc-00062-00016101-00016386 I'll get pooped out over there by the AQrlisFBdWc-00063-00016387-00016638 powers that be maybe its lack of two AQrlisFBdWc-00064-00016639-00016767 helping me out or something like that AQrlisFBdWc-00065-00016768-00017097 who knows who knows and now you've got AQrlisFBdWc-00066-00017098-00017391 ourselves a block puzzle we need to get AQrlisFBdWc-00067-00017392-00017736 a diamond these spike thing into this AQrlisFBdWc-00068-00017737-00018015 diamond the whole thing to open up this AQrlisFBdWc-00069-00018016-00018230 diamond e crystal door of the blue AQrlisFBdWc-00070-00018231-00018441 variety but how do we do that because it AQrlisFBdWc-00071-00018442-00018725 can put we could push this thing all the AQrlisFBdWc-00072-00018726-00019014 way around in circles it's like it never AQrlisFBdWc-00073-00019015-00019244 seems the lineup that's crazy but if you AQrlisFBdWc-00074-00019245-00019500 I just I've solved the puzzle actually AQrlisFBdWc-00075-00019501-00019634 already but if you were to push it like AQrlisFBdWc-00076-00019635-00019971 around in a 2x2 square over and over and AQrlisFBdWc-00077-00019972-00020211 over like this it'll eventually line up AQrlisFBdWc-00078-00020212-00020387 with this and go right in place just by AQrlisFBdWc-00079-00020388-00020622 the mathematics of it and whatnot but if AQrlisFBdWc-00080-00020623-00020796 you go like if you keep going around the AQrlisFBdWc-00081-00020797-00020952 outer perimeter of it you're not gonna AQrlisFBdWc-00082-00020953-00021315 ever have this in a position where it's AQrlisFBdWc-00083-00021316-00021552 gonna be lined up like from its starting AQrlisFBdWc-00084-00021553-00021693 position so you've always got to cross AQrlisFBdWc-00085-00021694-00021944 over this middle one then go over to AQrlisFBdWc-00086-00021945-00022097 another one you know like from whatever AQrlisFBdWc-00087-00022098-00022344 side and then you'll be able to get it AQrlisFBdWc-00088-00022345-00022530 into a position eventually though you AQrlisFBdWc-00089-00022531-00022740 can just flop it over like that if it AQrlisFBdWc-00090-00022741-00022919 doesn't line up just keep going around AQrlisFBdWc-00091-00022920-00023202 in a 2x2 square over and over and over AQrlisFBdWc-00092-00023203-00023436 until you see it's lining up on the next AQrlisFBdWc-00093-00023437-00023661 flip over to it and you've got that AQrlisFBdWc-00094-00023662-00023958 puzzle solved like a pro so you got AQrlisFBdWc-00095-00023959-00024119 another one of these contraptions over AQrlisFBdWc-00096-00024120-00024239 here we AQrlisFBdWc-00097-00024240-00024560 got ourselves a cracked wall over here AQrlisFBdWc-00098-00024561-00024844 and a bridge that does not stay open AQrlisFBdWc-00099-00024845-00025125 unless something is on that switch so AQrlisFBdWc-00100-00025126-00025424 what can we do about that well first of AQrlisFBdWc-00101-00025425-00025705 course we need a bowl there in the slots AQrlisFBdWc-00102-00025706-00026145 no no no no no there you go AQrlisFBdWc-00103-00026147-00026518 and then we put put our bodyweight on AQrlisFBdWc-00104-00026519-00026999 that but then we hit this with anything AQrlisFBdWc-00105-00027000-00027170 I'm just use a boomerang because I won't AQrlisFBdWc-00106-00027170-00027323 you waste an arrow or something like AQrlisFBdWc-00107-00027324-00027493 that but wait till we get off of that AQrlisFBdWc-00108-00027494-00027905 switch oh no oh no so you need the wand AQrlisFBdWc-00109-00027906-00028250 again it's gonna push this this sleigh AQrlisFBdWc-00110-00028251-00028358 don't worry about it touching here AQrlisFBdWc-00111-00028358-00028502 anything like that it only hurts you AQrlisFBdWc-00112-00028502-00028670 when it's being flung out at high speed AQrlisFBdWc-00113-00028670-00028846 and voila AQrlisFBdWc-00114-00028847-00029312 okay look let me let me gasp it's yeah AQrlisFBdWc-00115-00029313-00029531 you're trying to find treasure chest AQrlisFBdWc-00116-00029532-00029896 son's floor I could tell you're a AQrlisFBdWc-00117-00029897-00031033 treasure chest rupees just be sir okay AQrlisFBdWc-00118-00031034-00031400 so we don't need that gossip stone I AQrlisFBdWc-00119-00031401-00031739 think we had another block puzzle going AQrlisFBdWc-00120-00031739-00032143 on here got a color code the puzzles AQrlisFBdWc-00121-00032144-00032408 like you got got the pinkish red type AQrlisFBdWc-00122-00032408-00032771 circle got the diamond blue you feel AQrlisFBdWc-00123-00032772-00032977 free off we also got ourselves a red AQrlisFBdWc-00124-00032978-00033164 door up here we can leave the red door AQrlisFBdWc-00125-00033165-00033314 for later because as you see it's late AQrlisFBdWc-00126-00033315-00033568 elites to the boss door key thing so AQrlisFBdWc-00127-00033569-00033785 let's focus on the blue because the blue AQrlisFBdWc-00128-00033786-00034083 is right here and that's our way forward AQrlisFBdWc-00129-00034084-00034564 so yeah how do you like those apples and AQrlisFBdWc-00130-00034565-00034837 yeah this is a little shortcut back AQrlisFBdWc-00131-00034838-00035057 anyway puzzle time so when you get off AQrlisFBdWc-00132-00035058-00035198 your San Juan I should just zoom out AQrlisFBdWc-00133-00035199-00035435 completely so we're just gonna do that AQrlisFBdWc-00134-00035436-00035723 2x2 thing remember I said just keep AQrlisFBdWc-00135-00035724-00035954 going around in a 2x2 circle and it will AQrlisFBdWc-00136-00035955-00036245 eventually line up with what you need it AQrlisFBdWc-00137-00036246-00036346 to I probably should have went around AQrlisFBdWc-00138-00036347-00036401 the other way AQrlisFBdWc-00139-00036402-00036568 but now it's too late because now we're AQrlisFBdWc-00140-00036569-00036733 in the middle we're in the middle of the AQrlisFBdWc-00141-00036734-00037220 road oh shoot no no no so finicky no AQrlisFBdWc-00142-00037221-00037581 going backwards okay it's a little bit AQrlisFBdWc-00143-00037582-00037818 little bit to the side there one more AQrlisFBdWc-00144-00037819-00038177 cycle and we'll turn that blue into AQrlisFBdWc-00145-00038178-00038508 happy red or no no that's not right it AQrlisFBdWc-00146-00038509-00038709 still turn that frown upside down AQrlisFBdWc-00147-00038710-00038943 no no that doesn't have a face well AQrlisFBdWc-00148-00038944-00039087 we'll solve the puzzle that's what we'll AQrlisFBdWc-00149-00039088-00039498 do oh actually maybe this maybe you AQrlisFBdWc-00150-00039499-00039696 can't do it on this particular one maybe AQrlisFBdWc-00151-00039697-00039933 you have to do it from this side is the AQrlisFBdWc-00152-00039934-00040508 2x2 ah yeah let's go like that put that AQrlisFBdWc-00153-00040509-00040990 there step it up at all do that there AQrlisFBdWc-00154-00040991-00041243 okay maybe that's 2x2 thing only worked AQrlisFBdWc-00155-00041244-00041712 on the other one no you still will need AQrlisFBdWc-00156-00041713-00042015 to do the 2x2 thing to get it to flip in AQrlisFBdWc-00157-00042016-00042339 your favor I'm actually gonna go hold on AQrlisFBdWc-00158-00042340-00042599 a sec got I'm miss counting this go all AQrlisFBdWc-00159-00042600-00042983 the way to this corner and flipping that AQrlisFBdWc-00160-00042984-00043496 there and then we go like up here and AQrlisFBdWc-00161-00043497-00043818 there and then there yeah I was miss AQrlisFBdWc-00162-00043819-00044183 counting that's a 2x2 method failed me AQrlisFBdWc-00163-00044184-00044477 there that's okay though that's okay it AQrlisFBdWc-00164-00044478-00044655 worked fine on the other one though this AQrlisFBdWc-00165-00044656-00045035 one's a piece of cake self-explanatory AQrlisFBdWc-00166-00045036-00045273 just just when you look at it you can AQrlisFBdWc-00167-00045274-00045395 tell how it's done AQrlisFBdWc-00168-00045396-00045654 alright so we're gonna leave the red AQrlisFBdWc-00169-00045655-00045918 ones for later I'm just gonna go down AQrlisFBdWc-00170-00045919-00046396 this path I forgot that was theirs I AQrlisFBdWc-00171-00046397-00046643 guess that's why they have this year huh AQrlisFBdWc-00172-00046644-00047151 that makes a lot of sense uh hello there AQrlisFBdWc-00173-00047152-00047529 hi there hi how's it going not too good AQrlisFBdWc-00174-00047530-00047751 no is it no no definitely you're you're AQrlisFBdWc-00175-00047752-00047860 even deader than dead No AQrlisFBdWc-00176-00047861-00048068 [Music] AQrlisFBdWc-00177-00048069-00048440 treasure chests voila I will take that AQrlisFBdWc-00178-00048441-00049026 and dr. loop an LS for this I want to AQrlisFBdWc-00179-00049027-00049308 stop one like yeah somewhere around AQrlisFBdWc-00180-00049309-00049499 there will do and oh wait wait what am I AQrlisFBdWc-00181-00049500-00049605 waiting there for it should've been AQrlisFBdWc-00182-00049606-00049686 around the corner AQrlisFBdWc-00183-00049687-00049914 I just want to offset them because what AQrlisFBdWc-00184-00049915-00050187 I want to do here is get ya so I can get AQrlisFBdWc-00185-00050188-00050514 my oh I wasn't standing on the okay okay AQrlisFBdWc-00186-00050515-00050814 we got it we got it anyway I was gonna AQrlisFBdWc-00187-00050815-00050949 say because they're all lined up and AQrlisFBdWc-00188-00050950-00051068 when they're when they're all lined up AQrlisFBdWc-00189-00051069-00051201 like that if you stop them both at the AQrlisFBdWc-00190-00051202-00051426 same time you can't climb on top of it AQrlisFBdWc-00191-00051427-00051776 because the spikes so yeah so anyway AQrlisFBdWc-00192-00051777-00052082 just go ahead and do the same thing with AQrlisFBdWc-00193-00052083-00052505 that oh this is not close enough to the AQrlisFBdWc-00194-00052507-00052815 edge okay flip over once please oh well AQrlisFBdWc-00195-00052816-00053090 that might I think that'll still work AQrlisFBdWc-00196-00053091-00054716 yeah if you forgot what you gotta do is AQrlisFBdWc-00197-00054717-00054929 get them to be in the sand you know then AQrlisFBdWc-00198-00054930-00055157 that lipped little sand puffs little AQrlisFBdWc-00199-00055158-00055365 urge to rock get yourself up on their AQrlisFBdWc-00200-00055366-00055563 level and attack them like crazy if you AQrlisFBdWc-00201-00055564-00055844 can it might actually better you better AQrlisFBdWc-00202-00055845-00056049 just stay on the top upper layer and AQrlisFBdWc-00203-00056050-00056400 then yeah no no I'm not cooperating are AQrlisFBdWc-00204-00056401-00056669 ya no of course not well I guess I guess AQrlisFBdWc-00205-00056670-00056898 I too wouldn't want to be dead so I can AQrlisFBdWc-00206-00056899-00057063 understand that we can we can relate AQrlisFBdWc-00207-00057064-00057372 with each other so yeah and you know you AQrlisFBdWc-00208-00057373-00057605 if you take to take me on directly it's AQrlisFBdWc-00209-00057607-00057791 just not going to work well for you I've AQrlisFBdWc-00210-00057792-00058115 got a sand long and I know how to use it AQrlisFBdWc-00211-00058116-00058416 okay one down three to go I don't know AQrlisFBdWc-00212-00058416-00058644 how I didn't even kill more than that AQrlisFBdWc-00213-00058645-00059051 already but whatever oh well oh there we AQrlisFBdWc-00214-00059052-00059169 go I was gonna say I don't I don't think AQrlisFBdWc-00215-00059170-00059325 I got that one in time before it went AQrlisFBdWc-00216-00059326-00059607 off back in the sand alright so yeah if AQrlisFBdWc-00217-00059608-00059879 you draw a draw with the San Juan over AQrlisFBdWc-00218-00059880-00060179 where their location is when they're AQrlisFBdWc-00219-00060180-00060372 above the sand it'll push them into the AQrlisFBdWc-00220-00060373-00060644 sand oh that's oh there's a lot more AQrlisFBdWc-00221-00060645-00060876 here than I thought huh that's okay you AQrlisFBdWc-00222-00060877-00061134 left me as long as I can keep stunning AQrlisFBdWc-00223-00061135-00061664 you guys it's over AQrlisFBdWc-00224-00061665-00061823 [Laughter] AQrlisFBdWc-00225-00061824-00062354 okie dokie so what can we do now with AQrlisFBdWc-00226-00062355-00062598 that door open well we can get a whole AQrlisFBdWc-00227-00062599-00062724 bunch of treasure like remember our AQrlisFBdWc-00228-00062725-00062922 scene before that you can find treasures AQrlisFBdWc-00229-00062923-00063066 and stuff like that buried under the AQrlisFBdWc-00230-00063066-00063534 sand well this room is suspiciously AQrlisFBdWc-00231-00063535-00064116 empty isn't it oh there's the Bosque but AQrlisFBdWc-00232-00064116-00064251 there's more than just the boss scheme AQrlisFBdWc-00233-00064252-00064566 here they're some rupees a big green AQrlisFBdWc-00234-00064566-00064794 rupee and everything a look at that AQrlisFBdWc-00235-00064795-00065051 beautiful nest wasn't there something AQrlisFBdWc-00236-00065052-00065265 like yeah there's a red one there yes AQrlisFBdWc-00237-00065266-00065448 you can unearth also it's the stuff with AQrlisFBdWc-00238-00065449-00065739 the sand rod heck yeah AQrlisFBdWc-00239-00065740-00065979 twitchy shadow alright let's grab this AQrlisFBdWc-00240-00065980-00066262 and take her over to the boss store AQrlisFBdWc-00241-00066263-00066599 did you do this could take me a while AQrlisFBdWc-00242-00066600-00066862 uh-oh this actually could pose to be a AQrlisFBdWc-00243-00066863-00067180 problem Oh Go Go Go Go you're Sol Sol AQrlisFBdWc-00244-00067181-00067599 Sol Sol Sol K we're good we're good AQrlisFBdWc-00245-00067600-00068065 um so yeah I think that's about it AQrlisFBdWc-00246-00068066-00068324 oh yeah like forgot about you again AQrlisFBdWc-00247-00068325-00068574 that's about it for this dungeon I guess AQrlisFBdWc-00248-00068575-00068751 other than making your way to the boss AQrlisFBdWc-00249-00068752-00069067 store although the boss is it's kind of AQrlisFBdWc-00250-00069068-00069196 lengthy so I might actually want to AQrlisFBdWc-00251-00069197-00069448 separate it for the next parts I also AQrlisFBdWc-00252-00069449-00069598 like that get some rabbits after I AQrlisFBdWc-00253-00069599-00069766 finished the dungeon too because even I AQrlisFBdWc-00254-00069767-00069949 can get all those sand rabbits as I said AQrlisFBdWc-00255-00069950-00070204 I'm gonna drop that key over there don't AQrlisFBdWc-00256-00070205-00070393 wrap it in there like I think it'll pop AQrlisFBdWc-00257-00070394-00070572 back out over there and that would suck AQrlisFBdWc-00258-00070573-00070897 okay so now we need to do oh I know what AQrlisFBdWc-00259-00070898-00071179 we need to do is get the red one to AQrlisFBdWc-00260-00071180-00071779 cooperate and go on to said red hole so AQrlisFBdWc-00261-00071780-00072049 we're gonna go ahead and do a couple of AQrlisFBdWc-00262-00072050-00072330 2x2 as I guess I got the blue one AQrlisFBdWc-00263-00072331-00072600 actually back in place by accidents on AQrlisFBdWc-00264-00072601-00072942 eight that the red one is way off its AQrlisFBdWc-00265-00072943-00073321 timing there you go that's gonna go to AQrlisFBdWc-00266-00073322-00073506 over voila AQrlisFBdWc-00267-00073507-00073863 that's one mm mm for the other one I'm AQrlisFBdWc-00268-00073864-00074017 just gonna get my body out of the way AQrlisFBdWc-00269-00074018-00074592 there see here yeah I definitely have to AQrlisFBdWc-00270-00074593-00074749 put more thought into these than that AQrlisFBdWc-00271-00074750-00075074 other one that dude by two completely AQrlisFBdWc-00272-00075075-00075762 fails me here okay how did this work AQrlisFBdWc-00273-00075763-00075993 that maybe it doesn't completely fail me AQrlisFBdWc-00274-00075994-00076180 I mean it still offsets the timing I AQrlisFBdWc-00275-00076181-00076462 mean not the timing the the order of AQrlisFBdWc-00276-00076463-00076782 like when that button gets into place AQrlisFBdWc-00277-00076783-00076893 and whatnot AQrlisFBdWc-00278-00076894-00077241 um okay I'm gonna go ahead and flip that AQrlisFBdWc-00279-00077242-00077850 like this and cuz I'll be able to get AQrlisFBdWc-00280-00077851-00078321 that red one turn up to the top I think AQrlisFBdWc-00281-00078322-00078579 soon enough if I keep going like this oh AQrlisFBdWc-00282-00078580-00079260 no no um maybe not yeah pooper scoopers AQrlisFBdWc-00283-00079261-00079413 yeah I want it to be at the top there so AQrlisFBdWc-00284-00079414-00079581 I could flip it over twice over there AQrlisFBdWc-00285-00079582-00080429 but alas alas no wait I got it yeah AQrlisFBdWc-00286-00080430-00080868 victory is mine over the dungeons many AQrlisFBdWc-00287-00080869-00081333 puzzles okay no say okay now get the AQrlisFBdWc-00288-00081334-00081504 camera so that's cooperates by going AQrlisFBdWc-00289-00081505-00081765 near the edge grab that's hurry across AQrlisFBdWc-00290-00081766-00082119 you don't lose that key but um love of AQrlisFBdWc-00291-00082120-00082470 Arceus don't lose that key and there you AQrlisFBdWc-00292-00082471-00082506 go AQrlisFBdWc-00293-00082507-00082605 I mean know what I mean it's not that AQrlisFBdWc-00294-00082606-00082749 hard to go back and get that key or AQrlisFBdWc-00295-00082750-00082950 anything like that but it's just it's a AQrlisFBdWc-00296-00082951-00083844 long walk hmm well this is a AQrlisFBdWc-00297-00083845-00084093 suspiciously empty room what could be AQrlisFBdWc-00298-00084094-00084420 here could there be a boss and of course AQrlisFBdWc-00299-00084421-00084579 not oh this is actually I thought that AQrlisFBdWc-00300-00084580-00084786 was a pit that first perspective was AQrlisFBdWc-00301-00084787-00085218 failing me ah it just starts to recover AQrlisFBdWc-00302-00085219-00085457 yourself probably in all these locations AQrlisFBdWc-00303-00085458-00086141 yeah yeah I suppose so alas alas no AQrlisFBdWc-00304-00086142-00086382 rupees and because well you know we're AQrlisFBdWc-00305-00086383-00086532 full of health so I'm not really AQrlisFBdWc-00306-00086533-00086694 concerned about actually having extra AQrlisFBdWc-00307-00086695-00086871 hearts so yeah I'm not all that hard to AQrlisFBdWc-00308-00086872-00087468 get here no was it yeah alright so since AQrlisFBdWc-00309-00087469-00087639 as I said the boss is gonna be sort of AQrlisFBdWc-00310-00087640-00087975 lengthy I think it's probably best to AQrlisFBdWc-00311-00087976-00088188 end off the part here so I hope you AQrlisFBdWc-00312-00088189-00088382 enjoyed and I'll see you in the next AQrlisFBdWc-00313-00088383-00088643 part when I tackle said lengthy boss and AQrlisFBdWc-00314-00088644-00089051 get the remaining sand rabbits probably AQrlisFBdWc-00315-00089052-00089352 who knows if I'll pull out my hair over AQrlisFBdWc-00316-00089353-00089601 those airs AQrlisFBdWc-00317-00089602-00089920 [Music] AS5yq_4OxKk-00000-00000128-00000311 hello everyone and welcome AS5yq_4OxKk-00001-00000312-00000543 today we're going to be looking at world AS5yq_4OxKk-00002-00000544-00000678 of tanks AS5yq_4OxKk-00003-00000679-00000935 world of tanks is very fun and actually AS5yq_4OxKk-00004-00000936-00001087 pretty easy to get into AS5yq_4OxKk-00005-00001088-00001295 but it also has plenty of depth behind AS5yq_4OxKk-00006-00001296-00001391 it AS5yq_4OxKk-00007-00001392-00001543 it's pretty easy to get into battle AS5yq_4OxKk-00008-00001544-00001695 right off the bat all you have to do is AS5yq_4OxKk-00009-00001696-00001855 press the button and go but once you AS5yq_4OxKk-00010-00001855-00002030 start traversing the screens AS5yq_4OxKk-00011-00002032-00002326 you get a feel for how in-depth the AS5yq_4OxKk-00012-00002327-00002534 whole game system is AS5yq_4OxKk-00013-00002535-00002775 from buying new tanks to buying new AS5yq_4OxKk-00014-00002776-00002910 parts to tanks AS5yq_4OxKk-00015-00002911-00003102 there's a whole lot of customization AS5yq_4OxKk-00016-00003103-00003431 options in the game for tanks in general AS5yq_4OxKk-00017-00003432-00003670 in addition to creating parties or AS5yq_4OxKk-00018-00003671-00003831 platoons you can also AS5yq_4OxKk-00019-00003832-00004031 create companies a larger group of AS5yq_4OxKk-00020-00004032-00004191 people moving forward to AS5yq_4OxKk-00021-00004192-00004495 accomplish one goal now you're not just AS5yq_4OxKk-00022-00004496-00004679 limited to going into battle AS5yq_4OxKk-00023-00004680-00004911 there's things like missions and goals AS5yq_4OxKk-00024-00004912-00005015 to accomplish AS5yq_4OxKk-00025-00005016-00005183 to help you progress through the game AS5yq_4OxKk-00026-00005184-00005343 itself and well get AS5yq_4OxKk-00027-00005344-00005679 better tanks the gameplay is pretty fun AS5yq_4OxKk-00028-00005680-00005886 you start off in your third person view AS5yq_4OxKk-00029-00005887-00006054 and you can also go into first person AS5yq_4OxKk-00030-00006055-00006206 it's kind of like shooting down your AS5yq_4OxKk-00031-00006207-00006399 sights in a tank AS5yq_4OxKk-00032-00006400-00006614 one really positive point about world of AS5yq_4OxKk-00033-00006615-00006831 tanks is that it doesn't feel like an AS5yq_4OxKk-00034-00006831-00007159 arcade style game it really has this AS5yq_4OxKk-00035-00007159-00007367 meat behind it where your tank feels AS5yq_4OxKk-00036-00007368-00007510 like it's actually AS5yq_4OxKk-00037-00007511-00007663 moving like a tank you don't AS5yq_4OxKk-00038-00007664-00007927 automatically just snap to a shot AS5yq_4OxKk-00039-00007928-00008110 or your tank just doesn't automatically AS5yq_4OxKk-00040-00008111-00008335 turn around it feels like it has AS5yq_4OxKk-00041-00008336-00008542 weight to it and your shots don't AS5yq_4OxKk-00042-00008543-00008639 automatically AS5yq_4OxKk-00043-00008640-00008919 just hit you have to do a little bit of AS5yq_4OxKk-00044-00008920-00009039 lead time AS5yq_4OxKk-00045-00009040-00009174 obviously you have to take into AS5yq_4OxKk-00046-00009175-00009359 consideration the type of terrain you're AS5yq_4OxKk-00047-00009360-00009391 on AS5yq_4OxKk-00048-00009392-00009631 whether or not your target is moving and AS5yq_4OxKk-00049-00009632-00009783 how far away they are AS5yq_4OxKk-00050-00009784-00009967 because really all these factors do AS5yq_4OxKk-00051-00009968-00010174 matter when you're shooting AS5yq_4OxKk-00052-00010175-00010391 also you have to take into consideration AS5yq_4OxKk-00053-00010392-00010623 what type of tank you're firing against 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ATzahkZhmDy-00004-00000930-00001229 you and me and everyone thinks will ATzahkZhmDy-00005-00001230-00001481 definitely alter the world even it is ATzahkZhmDy-00006-00001482-00001787 the way we think is the way we become ATzahkZhmDy-00007-00001788-00002032 and the way we become is the way the ATzahkZhmDy-00008-00002034-00002189 world becomes ATzahkZhmDy-00009-00002190-00002513 so before we attempt to change anything ATzahkZhmDy-00010-00002514-00002867 in the world it's most important ATzahkZhmDy-00011-00002868-00003160 at least our thought process is the way ATzahkZhmDy-00012-00003161-00003361 we want it to be ATzahkZhmDy-00013-00003361-00003670 if your thought process is the way you ATzahkZhmDy-00014-00003671-00003935 want your emotions also will be the way ATzahkZhmDy-00015-00003936-00004175 you want if your thought and emotion is ATzahkZhmDy-00016-00004176-00004391 the way you want you will be a joyful ATzahkZhmDy-00017-00004392-00004679 human being when you are a joyful human ATzahkZhmDy-00018-00004680-00004841 being without reason ATzahkZhmDy-00019-00004842-00005135 without expecting anything naturally ATzahkZhmDy-00020-00005136-00005399 you're no more arrested interest if ATzahkZhmDy-00021-00005400-00005627 there are less number of people who are ATzahkZhmDy-00022-00005628-00005861 vested interests in the world the world ATzahkZhmDy-00023-00005862-00006022 will be a great place for everyone to ATzahkZhmDy-00024-00006023-00006035 live ATzahkZhmDy-00025-00006036-00006571 [Music] AUhHaZeKeao-00000-00001232-00001607 yeah yeah okay we begin the course in AUhHaZeKeao-00001-00001607-00002010 management and today AUhHaZeKeao-00002-00002011-00002392 as much as we can from chapter one maybe AUhHaZeKeao-00003-00002393-00002752 all of it chapter one in management and AUhHaZeKeao-00004-00002753-00003010 in production of principle management is AUhHaZeKeao-00005-00003011-00003259 simply well guys AUhHaZeKeao-00006-00003260-00003534 hello okay AUhHaZeKeao-00007-00003535-00003763 [Music] AUhHaZeKeao-00008-00003764-00004022 all right let's get these kids AUhHaZeKeao-00009-00004024-00004561 [Music] AUhHaZeKeao-00010-00004562-00004979 all right guys everybody all right AUhHaZeKeao-00011-00004980-00005141 please AUhHaZeKeao-00012-00005142-00005525 so managers and management chapter one AUhHaZeKeao-00013-00005526-00005849 and first of all what we're trying to do AUhHaZeKeao-00014-00005850-00006215 today is fairly straightforward tell who AUhHaZeKeao-00015-00006216-00006709 managers are next part is Define AUhHaZeKeao-00016-00006709-00007270 management so what is management after AUhHaZeKeao-00017-00007272-00007696 we Define management we want to describe AUhHaZeKeao-00018-00007697-00008164 what managers do we also say them so who AUhHaZeKeao-00019-00008165-00008455 the managers are what is Management AUhHaZeKeao-00020-00008456-00008969 number three describe what managers do AUhHaZeKeao-00021-00008970-00009335 the next important part for today is AUhHaZeKeao-00022-00009336-00009851 explain why it is important to study AUhHaZeKeao-00023-00009852-00010373 management and the last piece is some of AUhHaZeKeao-00024-00010374-00010660 the factors that are changing management AUhHaZeKeao-00025-00010661-00010985 last time I explained that one of the AUhHaZeKeao-00026-00010986-00011233 major factors is AUhHaZeKeao-00027-00011234-00011614 globalization globalization is very AUhHaZeKeao-00028-00011615-00011759 important AUhHaZeKeao-00029-00011760-00012256 all right we begin with part one uh if AUhHaZeKeao-00030-00012257-00012551 you guys should buy the textbook AUhHaZeKeao-00031-00012552-00012742 textbook is AUhHaZeKeao-00032-00012743-00013019 this little thing fundamentals of AUhHaZeKeao-00033-00013019-00013505 management by Stephen Robbins okay and AUhHaZeKeao-00034-00013506-00013703 you should buy the textbook so you can AUhHaZeKeao-00035-00013704-00014015 actually follow from the textbook too so AUhHaZeKeao-00036-00014016-00014351 number one tell who the managers are and AUhHaZeKeao-00037-00014352-00014644 where they work AUhHaZeKeao-00038-00014645-00015029 and managers work in AUhHaZeKeao-00039-00015030-00015319 an organization AUhHaZeKeao-00040-00015319-00015527 organization is AUhHaZeKeao-00041-00015528-00015841 a collection of people AUhHaZeKeao-00042-00015841-00016450 who work together for a common goal they AUhHaZeKeao-00043-00016451-00016985 try to accomplish the same objectives in AUhHaZeKeao-00044-00016986-00017441 the primary objective usually for any AUhHaZeKeao-00045-00017442-00017633 business is AUhHaZeKeao-00046-00017634-00017794 profit AUhHaZeKeao-00047-00017795-00018185 managers work in organizations the AUhHaZeKeao-00048-00018186-00018611 organizations usual goal is profit AUhHaZeKeao-00049-00018612-00018922 sometimes for a government organization AUhHaZeKeao-00050-00018923-00019313 it will not be a profit from government AUhHaZeKeao-00051-00019314-00019663 organization like police it will be low AUhHaZeKeao-00052-00019664-00020117 crime but they all work together all AUhHaZeKeao-00053-00020118-00020230 right AUhHaZeKeao-00054-00020231-00020658 and organizations have certain AUhHaZeKeao-00055-00020659-00021019 characteristics so every organization AUhHaZeKeao-00056-00021020-00021497 has specific goals for this University AUhHaZeKeao-00057-00021498-00021863 which is a non-profit University the AUhHaZeKeao-00058-00021864-00022294 goal is education raise the Young AUhHaZeKeao-00059-00022295-00022597 Generation and AUhHaZeKeao-00060-00022598-00023033 allow them to have good careers to build AUhHaZeKeao-00061-00023034-00023333 and grow your own country in your own AUhHaZeKeao-00062-00023334-00023621 economy and make good lives for AUhHaZeKeao-00063-00023622-00023914 themselves for yourselves okay for the AUhHaZeKeao-00064-00023915-00024250 police it's low crime and for all other AUhHaZeKeao-00065-00024251-00024694 businesses it simply simply profit so AUhHaZeKeao-00066-00024695-00024958 the next characteristic is that all AUhHaZeKeao-00067-00024959-00025158 organizations have built of people AUhHaZeKeao-00068-00025159-00025547 that's natural okay this is not a zoo AUhHaZeKeao-00069-00025548-00025846 with animals so AUhHaZeKeao-00070-00025847-00026206 Police Department as people university AUhHaZeKeao-00071-00026207-00026657 has people any business as people and AUhHaZeKeao-00072-00026658-00027070 finally it has a structure structure AUhHaZeKeao-00073-00027072-00027395 means there is someone at the top then AUhHaZeKeao-00074-00027395-00027767 there are people beneath it and beneath AUhHaZeKeao-00075-00027768-00028007 their people and there are different we AUhHaZeKeao-00076-00028008-00028333 call levels different AUhHaZeKeao-00077-00028333-00028561 levels of AUhHaZeKeao-00078-00028562-00029057 organization so this is an organization AUhHaZeKeao-00079-00029058-00029440 hello girls class begin okay next time AUhHaZeKeao-00080-00029441-00029893 you're going to be out okay so AUhHaZeKeao-00081-00029894-00030245 organizations have structure and it's AUhHaZeKeao-00082-00030245-00030545 called level of structure and is it AUhHaZeKeao-00083-00030545-00030683 coming in a minute you're going to have AUhHaZeKeao-00084-00030683-00031001 a top level of structure middle level AUhHaZeKeao-00085-00031002-00031343 structure the low lower level uh AUhHaZeKeao-00086-00031344-00031624 fracture all right this is a simple AUhHaZeKeao-00087-00031625-00032027 picture for kids and the picture is you AUhHaZeKeao-00088-00032027-00032285 see the goals okay you have certain AUhHaZeKeao-00089-00032286-00032602 goals you have certain people and this AUhHaZeKeao-00090-00032603-00032824 is what a structure looks like of course AUhHaZeKeao-00091-00032825-00033059 let me show you here here you're gonna AUhHaZeKeao-00092-00033060-00033346 have maybe three more here you're gonna AUhHaZeKeao-00093-00033347-00033611 have three more here you're gonna have AUhHaZeKeao-00094-00033612-00033940 five more okay and the structure is like AUhHaZeKeao-00095-00033941-00034390 a tree okay for a big organization it AUhHaZeKeao-00096-00034391-00034768 may have six or seven levels of AUhHaZeKeao-00097-00034769-00034955 structure in other words they're gonna AUhHaZeKeao-00098-00034956-00035201 be mini boss they're going to be bigger AUhHaZeKeao-00099-00035202-00035465 boss they're gonna be Mega boss and AUhHaZeKeao-00100-00035466-00035681 they're going to be the top box okay I AUhHaZeKeao-00101-00035682-00035896 mean you're gonna be have a lot of level AUhHaZeKeao-00102-00035897-00036262 of management AUhHaZeKeao-00103-00036263-00036868 all right so every organization has two AUhHaZeKeao-00104-00036869-00037289 types of employees the first one is not AUhHaZeKeao-00105-00037290-00037627 managerial and here it is AUhHaZeKeao-00106-00037628-00037789 non-managerial AUhHaZeKeao-00107-00037790-00038196 non-managerial employees are not AUhHaZeKeao-00108-00038197-00038639 responsible for anybody else they are AUhHaZeKeao-00109-00038640-00038890 responsible for their own work yesterday AUhHaZeKeao-00110-00038891-00039324 I gave you as an example that I am a AUhHaZeKeao-00111-00039325-00039635 non-managerial employee this means I'm AUhHaZeKeao-00112-00039636-00040174 at the lower level in Academia I'm not AUhHaZeKeao-00113-00040175-00040499 responsible for any other Professor I'm AUhHaZeKeao-00114-00040500-00040949 responsible only for my own work okay so AUhHaZeKeao-00115-00040950-00041309 I'm not a manager managing basically AUhHaZeKeao-00116-00041310-00041777 means you run other people and that's AUhHaZeKeao-00117-00041778-00042052 the characteristic of management these AUhHaZeKeao-00118-00042053-00042629 are individuals or people who direct the AUhHaZeKeao-00119-00042630-00043061 activities or the work of others who AUhHaZeKeao-00120-00043062-00043427 direct the work of others so if somebody 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AUhHaZeKeao-00135-00048150-00048562 service so you're paying tuition and you AUhHaZeKeao-00136-00048563-00048857 expect for that tuition to get up in AUhHaZeKeao-00137-00048858-00049146 this case service and the services AUhHaZeKeao-00138-00049147-00049529 education and where as you see using a AUhHaZeKeao-00139-00049530-00049890 lot of Technology camera PowerPoint AUhHaZeKeao-00140-00049891-00050395 computers well you all got iPads to AUhHaZeKeao-00141-00050396-00050921 improve the productivity of my work as a AUhHaZeKeao-00142-00050922-00051323 teacher it was a job and for you as now AUhHaZeKeao-00143-00051324-00051592 this technology is no difference than AUhHaZeKeao-00144-00051594-00051880 you using a motorcycle to go from here AUhHaZeKeao-00145-00051882-00052066 to there it takes two minutes with a AUhHaZeKeao-00146-00052067-00052396 motorcycle instead of 10 minute walk AUhHaZeKeao-00147-00052397-00052871 next one next one is management levels AUhHaZeKeao-00148-00052872-00053219 so management has a structure AUhHaZeKeao-00149-00053220-00053794 and structure has level and this is just AUhHaZeKeao-00150-00053795-00054280 one example example uh talk managers and AUhHaZeKeao-00151-00054282-00054671 top managers represent the level AUhHaZeKeao-00152-00054672-00055019 then you have middle management middle AUhHaZeKeao-00153-00055020-00055361 management is the middle layer or the AUhHaZeKeao-00154-00055362-00055723 middle level and then we have the bottom AUhHaZeKeao-00155-00055724-00056021 manager and button managers are called AUhHaZeKeao-00156-00056022-00056237 first line manager AUhHaZeKeao-00157-00056238-00056549 first line manager is a manager who AUhHaZeKeao-00158-00056550-00056999 works only with the managerial employees AUhHaZeKeao-00159-00057000-00057121 who is actually AUhHaZeKeao-00160-00057122-00057325 responsible AUhHaZeKeao-00161-00057326-00057721 managerial employees now in major AUhHaZeKeao-00162-00057722-00058007 corporations in the United States you AUhHaZeKeao-00163-00058008-00058379 may have six or seven or eight levels AUhHaZeKeao-00164-00058379-00058703 six seven or eight levels because the AUhHaZeKeao-00165-00058704-00058997 organization is Big the organization may AUhHaZeKeao-00166-00058998-00059435 have a hundred thousand people and in a AUhHaZeKeao-00167-00059436-00059771 hundred thousand people organization it AUhHaZeKeao-00168-00059772-00060161 will have seven eight or nine levels of AUhHaZeKeao-00169-00060162-00060442 management when I work in the year of AUhHaZeKeao-00170-00060444-00060797 2000 to 2003 in a big American AUhHaZeKeao-00171-00060798-00061104 corporation it was SVC AUhHaZeKeao-00172-00061105-00061457 Communications I had a tiny little boss AUhHaZeKeao-00173-00061458-00061871 my tiny boss had a look up bigger loss AUhHaZeKeao-00174-00061872-00062153 this is within the sales department I AUhHaZeKeao-00175-00062154-00062392 was in sales operations AUhHaZeKeao-00176-00062394-00062663 so my little boss had a little bigger AUhHaZeKeao-00177-00062664-00063173 boss and then we had the big manager of AUhHaZeKeao-00178-00063174-00063719 sales and sales operation well she had a AUhHaZeKeao-00179-00063720-00064042 manager of the software Division and the AUhHaZeKeao-00180-00064044-00064253 manager of the software Division and the AUhHaZeKeao-00181-00064254-00064600 manager of the whole Corporation so you AUhHaZeKeao-00182-00064601-00065009 have five levels of employees or four AUhHaZeKeao-00183-00065010-00065326 levels of management built on top of a AUhHaZeKeao-00184-00065327-00065813 child okay we call this structure AUhHaZeKeao-00185-00065814-00066305 okay so what do managers AUhHaZeKeao-00186-00066306-00066832 do what's their job okay and it depends AUhHaZeKeao-00187-00066833-00067282 on their position so for we say the top AUhHaZeKeao-00188-00067283-00067606 management which we call Big Boss will AUhHaZeKeao-00189-00067607-00067999 have very very very difference AUhHaZeKeao-00190-00068000-00068321 responsibilities then the little manager AUhHaZeKeao-00191-00068322-00068597 for example the president of the AUhHaZeKeao-00192-00068598-00068905 University well completely different AUhHaZeKeao-00193-00068906-00069275 completely different job than here the AUhHaZeKeao-00194-00069276-00069538 department chair the president of the AUhHaZeKeao-00195-00069539-00069887 University will think should we buy more AUhHaZeKeao-00196-00069888-00070144 land for the University AUhHaZeKeao-00197-00070145-00070465 should we build a brand new Department AUhHaZeKeao-00198-00070466-00070865 should we build a brand new building in AUhHaZeKeao-00199-00070866-00071194 other words he will be focused on the AUhHaZeKeao-00200-00071195-00071573 big picture he will be focused on what AUhHaZeKeao-00201-00071574-00071885 we'll discuss in chapter 4 the strategy AUhHaZeKeao-00202-00071886-00072167 okay strategy is AUhHaZeKeao-00203-00072168-00072647 about the most important things related AUhHaZeKeao-00204-00072648-00073049 to the corporation okay this is the same AUhHaZeKeao-00205-00073050-00073588 as the direction of AUhHaZeKeao-00206-00073589-00073961 in our case the universe for example AUhHaZeKeao-00207-00073962-00074256 when I was working in another country AUhHaZeKeao-00208-00074257-00074573 the president of the University said oh AUhHaZeKeao-00209-00074574-00074932 we want to have an English speaking AUhHaZeKeao-00210-00074933-00075256 program an employees meaning other AUhHaZeKeao-00211-00075257-00075485 university professors and management AUhHaZeKeao-00212-00075486-00075887 didn't care but the big boss said it's AUhHaZeKeao-00213-00075888-00076235 important for us we are an Asian economy AUhHaZeKeao-00214-00076236-00076732 we're an advanced developed economy we AUhHaZeKeao-00215-00076733-00077021 have to have an English program English AUhHaZeKeao-00216-00077022-00077321 program is important for us and whether AUhHaZeKeao-00217-00077322-00077591 middle management or law management like AUhHaZeKeao-00218-00077592-00077897 it or don't like it is the boss he AUhHaZeKeao-00219-00077898-00078167 decides he tells them somebody doesn't AUhHaZeKeao-00220-00078168-00078419 like it it can go out and find another AUhHaZeKeao-00221-00078420-00078712 job in another University what about AUhHaZeKeao-00222-00078713-00079073 middle management middle management is AUhHaZeKeao-00223-00079074-00079212 usually AUhHaZeKeao-00224-00079213-00079582 coordination middle management is trying AUhHaZeKeao-00225-00079583-00079944 to communicate with management AUhHaZeKeao-00226-00079945-00080417 and at the same time with low level AUhHaZeKeao-00227-00080418-00080844 management so what they do is AUhHaZeKeao-00228-00080845-00081143 coordinate activities between the top AUhHaZeKeao-00229-00081144-00081432 management and the low level management AUhHaZeKeao-00230-00081433-00081844 and they say manage the activities of AUhHaZeKeao-00231-00081845-00082144 other lower management this but it's not AUhHaZeKeao-00232-00082145-00082379 exact it's not just managing the law AUhHaZeKeao-00233-00082380-00082738 it's coordinating between the topic in AUhHaZeKeao-00234-00082739-00082955 the body in other words if the president AUhHaZeKeao-00235-00082956-00083273 says we need an English program then AUhHaZeKeao-00236-00083274-00083488 these guys will AUhHaZeKeao-00237-00083489-00083831 hire new professors within new skills AUhHaZeKeao-00238-00083832-00084106 and so on so they'll try to see that AUhHaZeKeao-00239-00084107-00084323 what the big boss wants what top AUhHaZeKeao-00240-00084324-00084691 management wants it gets eventually done AUhHaZeKeao-00241-00084692-00085073 and finally first line managers AUhHaZeKeao-00242-00085074-00085326 simply direct AUhHaZeKeao-00243-00085327-00085637 non-managerial and employees in other AUhHaZeKeao-00244-00085638-00085871 words for example the department chair AUhHaZeKeao-00245-00085872-00086249 will be managing me now the department AUhHaZeKeao-00246-00086250-00086447 chair will have AUhHaZeKeao-00247-00086448-00086699 a boss who's going to be the dean okay AUhHaZeKeao-00248-00086700-00086950 the dean of the school in this case of AUhHaZeKeao-00249-00086951-00087269 the faculty The Faculty of hospitality AUhHaZeKeao-00250-00087270-00087475 and tourism okay AUhHaZeKeao-00251-00087476-00088049 so this is what basically these guys do AUhHaZeKeao-00252-00088050-00088387 oh these guys also have AUhHaZeKeao-00253-00088388-00088709 titles okay remember for the University AUhHaZeKeao-00254-00088710-00089171 we said that the University was uh has a AUhHaZeKeao-00255-00089172-00089476 Dress It Up but sometimes going to be AUhHaZeKeao-00256-00089477-00089671 chief AUhHaZeKeao-00257-00089672-00089999 executive officer sometimes it's going AUhHaZeKeao-00258-00090000-00090400 to be a vice president okay it's going AUhHaZeKeao-00259-00090401-00090725 to be a vice president in finance they AUhHaZeKeao-00260-00090726-00091129 like to call themselves VP VP meaning AUhHaZeKeao-00261-00091130-00091576 vice president okay well what about the AUhHaZeKeao-00262-00091577-00091805 middle manager it's going to be this AUhHaZeKeao-00263-00091806-00091956 strict manager AUhHaZeKeao-00264-00091957-00092303 division manager sometimes it could be AUhHaZeKeao-00265-00092304-00092711 called regional manager okay they all AUhHaZeKeao-00266-00092712-00092938 like to call themselves some sort of a AUhHaZeKeao-00267-00092939-00093029 man AUhHaZeKeao-00268-00093030-00093349 and finally it's just going to be AUhHaZeKeao-00269-00093350-00093744 supervisor team leader okay AUhHaZeKeao-00270-00093745-00093994 all right AUhHaZeKeao-00271-00093995-00094235 section number two so we finish section AUhHaZeKeao-00272-00094236-00094517 number one section number two is Define AUhHaZeKeao-00273-00094518-00094709 management AUhHaZeKeao-00274-00094710-00094925 to Define means AUhHaZeKeao-00275-00094926-00095123 what does it mean what is management AUhHaZeKeao-00276-00095124-00095479 okay what's the subject of man AUhHaZeKeao-00277-00095480-00095765 a removal AUhHaZeKeao-00278-00095766-00096191 oh management is a process AUhHaZeKeao-00279-00096192-00096550 take a look how it's italicized it's a AUhHaZeKeao-00280-00096551-00096785 process okay so it's not one thing it's AUhHaZeKeao-00281-00096786-00097205 a process so it's a number of different AUhHaZeKeao-00282-00097206-00097681 steps of getting things done AUhHaZeKeao-00283-00097682-00098165 effectively and efficiently so you gotta AUhHaZeKeao-00284-00098166-00098393 do it effectively you got to do it AUhHaZeKeao-00285-00098394-00098794 efficiently and I will be explaining now AUhHaZeKeao-00286-00098795-00099076 what is Effectiveness and what is AUhHaZeKeao-00287-00099077-00099299 efficient there's a big difference AUhHaZeKeao-00288-00099300-00099653 between these two in English they sound AUhHaZeKeao-00289-00099654-00099917 the same they're very different AUhHaZeKeao-00290-00099918-00100403 to be effective means to accomplish the AUhHaZeKeao-00291-00100404-00100912 goal achieve the goal mean doing the AUhHaZeKeao-00292-00100913-00101453 right things okay so you want to get the AUhHaZeKeao-00293-00101454-00101599 job done AUhHaZeKeao-00294-00101600-00101891 getting the job done that's what effect AUhHaZeKeao-00295-00101892-00102247 it means it means getting the job done AUhHaZeKeao-00296-00102248-00102678 accomplishing the past for Effectiveness AUhHaZeKeao-00297-00102679-00103086 my job is to teach you Elementary AUhHaZeKeao-00298-00103088-00103416 management or principles of management AUhHaZeKeao-00299-00103417-00103792 my job is to AUhHaZeKeao-00300-00103793-00104190 and for you to learn and understand AUhHaZeKeao-00301-00104191-00104549 basic management but I also have another AUhHaZeKeao-00302-00104550-00104825 goal another objective and the other AUhHaZeKeao-00303-00104826-00105203 objective is to teach you to communicate AUhHaZeKeao-00304-00105204-00105336 in English AUhHaZeKeao-00305-00105338-00105778 easily and part of the exams will be AUhHaZeKeao-00306-00105779-00106133 open questions where you actually have AUhHaZeKeao-00307-00106133-00106504 to write sentences in English sentences AUhHaZeKeao-00308-00106505-00106739 have to be fairly good and of substance AUhHaZeKeao-00309-00106740-00107123 okay so I actually have two jobs one is AUhHaZeKeao-00310-00107124-00107423 teacher General English and the language AUhHaZeKeao-00311-00107424-00107686 skills where you can also communicate AUhHaZeKeao-00312-00107688-00107897 them right in English and the other one AUhHaZeKeao-00313-00107898-00108265 is manifold so that's Effectiveness AUhHaZeKeao-00314-00108266-00108701 efficiency is associated with getting AUhHaZeKeao-00315-00108702-00109036 things done quickly getting them done AUhHaZeKeao-00316-00109038-00109540 with little resources so efficiency is AUhHaZeKeao-00317-00109541-00109960 about the ratio between inputs AUhHaZeKeao-00318-00109961-00110416 and output output is defectiveness AUhHaZeKeao-00319-00110417-00110681 Effectiveness what's downpouring how AUhHaZeKeao-00320-00110682-00110993 much you learn but efficiency is about AUhHaZeKeao-00321-00110994-00111389 was I able to teach you in two weeks or AUhHaZeKeao-00322-00111390-00111743 in five weeks or in 20 weeks okay so AUhHaZeKeao-00323-00111744-00112169 efficiencies how much work you do to get AUhHaZeKeao-00324-00112170-00112631 there okay so example of efficiency is AUhHaZeKeao-00325-00112632-00112949 you want to go from here to 7-Eleven AUhHaZeKeao-00326-00112950-00113315 which is about how far five minutes away AUhHaZeKeao-00327-00113316-00113604 two minutes away AUhHaZeKeao-00328-00113605-00114160 ah it depends it is two minutes away if AUhHaZeKeao-00329-00114161-00114431 you go with a motorbike okay but if you AUhHaZeKeao-00330-00114432-00114773 walk it's five or eight minutes okay so AUhHaZeKeao-00331-00114774-00115157 the goal is you get to 7-Eleven and buy AUhHaZeKeao-00332-00115158-00115390 yourself lunch okay AUhHaZeKeao-00333-00115391-00115847 but it is less efficient to walk because AUhHaZeKeao-00334-00115848-00116033 it takes seven minutes AUhHaZeKeao-00335-00116033-00116351 it is more efficient to go on the bike AUhHaZeKeao-00336-00116352-00116639 because it takes one minute okay so AUhHaZeKeao-00337-00116640-00117040 efficiency you still go 7-Eleven you AUhHaZeKeao-00338-00117041-00117371 still go and eat okay but with a AUhHaZeKeao-00339-00117372-00117904 motorcycle it is more efficient okay so AUhHaZeKeao-00340-00117905-00118075 that's one type of more efficient AUhHaZeKeao-00341-00118076-00118366 another type of more efficient is what AUhHaZeKeao-00342-00118367-00118681 we sometimes do with PowerPoint today AUhHaZeKeao-00343-00118682-00119158 you do not need to print PowerPoints why AUhHaZeKeao-00344-00119159-00119351 because you already have it in AUhHaZeKeao-00345-00119352-00119704 electronic form okay you already have it AUhHaZeKeao-00346-00119705-00120083 on your LMS system the LMS system is AUhHaZeKeao-00347-00120083-00120425 actually known as Moodle storage you can AUhHaZeKeao-00348-00120426-00120760 download in other words electronic form AUhHaZeKeao-00349-00120761-00121186 is more efficient than the paper block AUhHaZeKeao-00350-00121188-00121552 okay paper is paper right electronic AUhHaZeKeao-00351-00121553-00121984 text only electricity all right AUhHaZeKeao-00352-00121985-00122166 so AUhHaZeKeao-00353-00122167-00122581 efficiency is associated with resource AUhHaZeKeao-00354-00122582-00123052 usage so inefficiency you use little AUhHaZeKeao-00355-00123053-00123439 resources and get a lot of outputs okay AUhHaZeKeao-00356-00123440-00123797 in our case the resource of going to AUhHaZeKeao-00357-00123798-00124247 7-Eleven was time more efficient means AUhHaZeKeao-00358-00124248-00124463 you take one minute to put a motor one AUhHaZeKeao-00359-00124464-00124690 minute with a motorcycle it takes seven AUhHaZeKeao-00360-00124691-00125008 minutes walk okay well AUhHaZeKeao-00361-00125009-00125339 if you want to be more effective it's AUhHaZeKeao-00362-00125340-00125752 going to take more resources so if we AUhHaZeKeao-00363-00125753-00126028 want to teach everyone excellent English AUhHaZeKeao-00364-00126029-00126299 here or excellent management it's going AUhHaZeKeao-00365-00126300-00126484 to take more time AUhHaZeKeao-00366-00126485-00126881 more examples more resources so we say AUhHaZeKeao-00367-00126882-00127181 there is a trade-off between efficiency AUhHaZeKeao-00368-00127182-00127549 and Effectiveness if you want to be very AUhHaZeKeao-00369-00127550-00127889 efficient usually you're not very AUhHaZeKeao-00370-00127890-00128260 effective okay if you want to be very AUhHaZeKeao-00371-00128261-00128628 very effective you're not usually AUhHaZeKeao-00372-00128629-00128981 efficient so if you want to achieve a AUhHaZeKeao-00373-00128982-00129299 lot of goal Big Goal you need a lot of AUhHaZeKeao-00374-00129300-00129586 resources and it makes it inefficient AUhHaZeKeao-00375-00129588-00129995 okay and the opposite is true and that's AUhHaZeKeao-00376-00129996-00130278 why you have these here you know AUhHaZeKeao-00377-00130279-00130631 resource usage goes down and AUhHaZeKeao-00378-00130632-00131045 respectively go retained AUhHaZeKeao-00379-00131046-00131290 all right yeah when they say resource AUhHaZeKeao-00380-00131291-00131593 usage or efficiency efficiency AUhHaZeKeao-00381-00131594-00131831 associated with AUhHaZeKeao-00382-00131832-00132304 ways here's an another good example of AUhHaZeKeao-00383-00132305-00132593 efficiency efficiency is about education AUhHaZeKeao-00384-00132594-00132875 now we are having here let's say 45 AUhHaZeKeao-00385-00132876-00133019 students AUhHaZeKeao-00386-00133020-00133493 but the whole class is 55 skills so for AUhHaZeKeao-00387-00133494-00133775 example maybe 10 students are not AUhHaZeKeao-00388-00133776-00134183 depending class okay one way to achieve AUhHaZeKeao-00389-00134184-00134483 the education for all 55 is we have a AUhHaZeKeao-00390-00134484-00134716 separate class for two and a half for AUhHaZeKeao-00391-00134717-00135004 two hours okay and teach those 10 people AUhHaZeKeao-00392-00135005-00135316 okay so that's one way to do it but AUhHaZeKeao-00393-00135317-00135533 there's another way and the other way AUhHaZeKeao-00394-00135534-00135677 it's called a AUhHaZeKeao-00395-00135678-00136085 camera we're recording the camera we put AUhHaZeKeao-00396-00136086-00136421 it on YouTube and then they can watch it AUhHaZeKeao-00397-00136422-00136799 later at their own time this makes it AUhHaZeKeao-00398-00136800-00137152 more efficient camera it is same as AUhHaZeKeao-00399-00137153-00137464 motorcycle it saves Good Times okay and AUhHaZeKeao-00400-00137465-00137669 someone could be sick some of them AUhHaZeKeao-00401-00137670-00137813 didn't have a lot of problems they can AUhHaZeKeao-00402-00137814-00138154 use the camera for better efficiency AUhHaZeKeao-00403-00138155-00138443 okay AUhHaZeKeao-00404-00138444-00138895 so number three section number three AUhHaZeKeao-00405-00138896-00139559 what do managers do what is it they do AUhHaZeKeao-00406-00139560-00140040 all right oh we got different AUhHaZeKeao-00407-00140041-00140519 views we got different philosophies so AUhHaZeKeao-00408-00140520-00140719 you have a different it's called AUhHaZeKeao-00409-00140720-00141037 approaches there is What's called the AUhHaZeKeao-00410-00141038-00141402 functions approach or the functional AUhHaZeKeao-00411-00141403-00141743 approach and the functions approach was AUhHaZeKeao-00412-00141744-00142025 proposed by some French industrialist AUhHaZeKeao-00413-00142026-00142531 okay that managers perform certain AUhHaZeKeao-00414-00142532-00142840 materials so according to the function AUhHaZeKeao-00415-00142841-00143164 functions approach it depends on which AUhHaZeKeao-00416-00143165-00143440 or which are the activities that AUhHaZeKeao-00417-00143441-00143759 managers do and these are AUhHaZeKeao-00418-00143760-00144131 4 which we'll see now in a minute would AUhHaZeKeao-00419-00144132-00144466 you remember which is as I took it AUhHaZeKeao-00420-00144467-00144683 mentioned to you yesterday something AUhHaZeKeao-00421-00144684-00144983 like a question on the quiz the question AUhHaZeKeao-00422-00144984-00145219 on the quizzes Which are the major AUhHaZeKeao-00423-00145220-00145787 functions in the functions approach okay AUhHaZeKeao-00424-00145788-00146014 and here is the answer AUhHaZeKeao-00425-00146015-00146201 the answer is AUhHaZeKeao-00426-00146202-00146614 the four major or the four AUhHaZeKeao-00427-00146615-00147016 primary management functions are AUhHaZeKeao-00428-00147017-00147233 planning AUhHaZeKeao-00429-00147234-00147443 organizing AUhHaZeKeao-00430-00147444-00147623 leading AUhHaZeKeao-00431-00147624-00148021 and controlling these are the four AUhHaZeKeao-00432-00148022-00148547 primary countries our whole textbook the AUhHaZeKeao-00433-00148548-00148840 whole textbook and our course AUhHaZeKeao-00434-00148841-00149261 is organized according to the functions AUhHaZeKeao-00435-00149262-00149716 approach now if you by chance happen to AUhHaZeKeao-00436-00149717-00150059 open the syllabus or you happen to open AUhHaZeKeao-00437-00150060-00150485 the textbook you will see that section AUhHaZeKeao-00438-00150486-00150793 one you can try to zoom in here yeah AUhHaZeKeao-00439-00150794-00151078 section one is the introduction in AUhHaZeKeao-00440-00151079-00151390 section two is planning AUhHaZeKeao-00441-00151391-00151811 section three is does it work AUhHaZeKeao-00442-00151812-00152081 organizing AUhHaZeKeao-00443-00152082-00152543 section four is leading and section five AUhHaZeKeao-00444-00152544-00152849 is controlling right camera is more AUhHaZeKeao-00445-00152850-00152993 interesting right AUhHaZeKeao-00446-00152994-00153352 yeah okay you got it back all right now AUhHaZeKeao-00447-00153353-00153564 you can zoom out right AUhHaZeKeao-00448-00153565-00154195 good so what we're doing is we organize AUhHaZeKeao-00449-00154196-00154595 this whole course the subject the way it AUhHaZeKeao-00450-00154596-00154852 was starting all right but please AUhHaZeKeao-00451-00154853-00155236 okay AUhHaZeKeao-00452-00155237-00155914 [Music] AUhHaZeKeao-00453-00155915-00156328 all right so we organized the whole AUhHaZeKeao-00454-00156329-00156709 course entirely based on the four AUhHaZeKeao-00455-00156710-00156995 primary functions the four major AUhHaZeKeao-00456-00156996-00157204 functions and AUhHaZeKeao-00457-00157205-00157613 over the next 10 or 11 weeks we're going AUhHaZeKeao-00458-00157614-00157937 to spend maybe two weeks here okay for AUhHaZeKeao-00459-00157938-00158213 three weeks here maybe two or three AUhHaZeKeao-00460-00158214-00158519 weeks here two or three weeks here in AUhHaZeKeao-00461-00158520-00158759 two weeks here and remember we got about AUhHaZeKeao-00462-00158760-00159059 two weeks of introduction in AUhHaZeKeao-00463-00159060-00159304 introduction we've got three chapters to AUhHaZeKeao-00464-00159305-00159611 come okay so probably for the AUhHaZeKeao-00465-00159612-00159821 introduction we spend about two weeks AUhHaZeKeao-00466-00159822-00160097 and for each of these we spend about AUhHaZeKeao-00467-00160098-00160414 two weeks okay and we're gonna have some AUhHaZeKeao-00468-00160415-00160721 exams and other things right so AUhHaZeKeao-00469-00160722-00161111 planning what is planning and planning AUhHaZeKeao-00470-00161112-00161539 is you want to find out what's the goal AUhHaZeKeao-00471-00161540-00162076 what's the purpose what's the objective AUhHaZeKeao-00472-00162077-00162352 but you want to be a little bit more AUhHaZeKeao-00473-00162353-00162737 specific you can't just say educate kids AUhHaZeKeao-00474-00162738-00163025 well you want to say something like we AUhHaZeKeao-00475-00163026-00163373 want to educate 3 AUhHaZeKeao-00476-00163374-00163561 000 children AUhHaZeKeao-00477-00163562-00163854 and give them or AUhHaZeKeao-00478-00163855-00164207 graduate them with a bachelor's degree AUhHaZeKeao-00479-00164208-00164585 okay that's more specific goal then you AUhHaZeKeao-00480-00164586-00164887 also say we also want to have AUhHaZeKeao-00481-00164888-00165389 500 Max Master's students and now I AUhHaZeKeao-00482-00165390-00165487 understand AUhHaZeKeao-00483-00165488-00165754 a major goal AUhHaZeKeao-00484-00165755-00165940 hello AUhHaZeKeao-00485-00165941-00166151 still here if you have questions you ask AUhHaZeKeao-00486-00166152-00166475 me later or ask me okay I mean on your AUhHaZeKeao-00487-00166476-00166704 main consultant here okay AUhHaZeKeao-00488-00166705-00167219 and the university has a new goal or a AUhHaZeKeao-00489-00167220-00167639 new purpose of opening and developing AUhHaZeKeao-00490-00167640-00167849 and growing a PhD AUhHaZeKeao-00491-00167850-00168197 a doctoral product okay so they want to AUhHaZeKeao-00492-00168198-00168695 say we want to have PhD in five majors AUhHaZeKeao-00493-00168696-00169013 in five major Fields so every AUhHaZeKeao-00494-00169014-00169264 organization will have a specific AUhHaZeKeao-00495-00169265-00169657 purpose in the purpose here as I said is AUhHaZeKeao-00496-00169658-00170051 education okay the purpose for a typical AUhHaZeKeao-00497-00170052-00170369 hotel is profit but you want to say we AUhHaZeKeao-00498-00170370-00170687 want to make a one million profit or two AUhHaZeKeao-00499-00170688-00171137 million profit okay uh sometimes part of AUhHaZeKeao-00500-00171138-00171389 the planning is we're going to open a AUhHaZeKeao-00501-00171390-00171713 new campus now you gotta understand this AUhHaZeKeao-00502-00171714-00171971 University here has five different AUhHaZeKeao-00503-00171972-00172313 branches and the Very president of the AUhHaZeKeao-00504-00172314-00172721 University say oh our major goal is to AUhHaZeKeao-00505-00172722-00173189 open Campus number six okay and Campus AUhHaZeKeao-00506-00173190-00173440 number six is part of the strategy of AUhHaZeKeao-00507-00173441-00173716 the big picture okay AUhHaZeKeao-00508-00173717-00174216 next number two is organizing okay well AUhHaZeKeao-00509-00174217-00174473 in this University the organization AUhHaZeKeao-00510-00174474-00174947 first is done in five different campuses AUhHaZeKeao-00511-00174948-00175535 five different locations okay here in AUhHaZeKeao-00512-00175536-00175888 Phuket right the you have how many AUhHaZeKeao-00513-00175889-00176152 faculties we got a faculty of AUhHaZeKeao-00514-00176153-00176507 international studies right you got a AUhHaZeKeao-00515-00176508-00176969 faculty uh hospitality and tourism AUhHaZeKeao-00516-00176970-00177251 you're all students right you got a AUhHaZeKeao-00517-00177252-00177514 faculty of engineering AUhHaZeKeao-00518-00177515-00177802 and maybe two or three more faculties AUhHaZeKeao-00519-00177803-00178145 okay so you got a total love AUhHaZeKeao-00520-00178146-00178559 in this University structure structure AUhHaZeKeao-00521-00178560-00178859 is the same as organization so an AUhHaZeKeao-00522-00178860-00179164 organization means some structure so the AUhHaZeKeao-00523-00179165-00179401 structure here is into AUhHaZeKeao-00524-00179402-00179740 faculties okay so that's what the AUhHaZeKeao-00525-00179741-00180064 organization oh and there it is see the AUhHaZeKeao-00526-00180065-00180457 keyword in organizing the key word is AUhHaZeKeao-00527-00180458-00180852 structuring okay so organization has AUhHaZeKeao-00528-00180853-00181169 arrangement in two different AUhHaZeKeao-00529-00181170-00181457 structure the structure here is called AUhHaZeKeao-00530-00181458-00181597 in this University AUhHaZeKeao-00531-00181598-00181931 faculty in a corporation the structure AUhHaZeKeao-00532-00181932-00182059 may be called AUhHaZeKeao-00533-00182060-00182525 division okay so a structure will have a AUhHaZeKeao-00534-00182526-00182866 specific name okay in a typical AUhHaZeKeao-00535-00182867-00183238 University it's the main structure is AUhHaZeKeao-00536-00183239-00183601 called the school the business school AUhHaZeKeao-00537-00183602-00183928 the law school AUhHaZeKeao-00538-00183929-00184295 medical school and then within business AUhHaZeKeao-00539-00184296-00184601 school we're going to have Finance AUhHaZeKeao-00540-00184602-00184925 departments management departments AUhHaZeKeao-00541-00184926-00185197 marketing department AUhHaZeKeao-00542-00185198-00185507 economics department so you will have AUhHaZeKeao-00543-00185508-00185869 different departments okay AUhHaZeKeao-00544-00185870-00186113 the next AUhHaZeKeao-00545-00186114-00186593 third function is leading leading is the AUhHaZeKeao-00546-00186594-00186947 same as directing for example the AUhHaZeKeao-00547-00186948-00187223 department manager tells me you teach AUhHaZeKeao-00548-00187224-00187552 management and you teach accounting what AUhHaZeKeao-00549-00187553-00187799 am I supposed to say AUhHaZeKeao-00550-00187800-00188311 supposed to say yes boss right AUhHaZeKeao-00551-00188312-00188699 okay how many groups she says two groups AUhHaZeKeao-00552-00188700-00188945 in management one grew up in accounting AUhHaZeKeao-00553-00188946-00189185 I say okay boss where is the classroom AUhHaZeKeao-00554-00189186-00189509 okay which is the textbook okay so AUhHaZeKeao-00555-00189510-00190025 leaving means manager managing other AUhHaZeKeao-00556-00190026-00190276 people could be other managers or could AUhHaZeKeao-00557-00190277-00190649 be first level employees and AUhHaZeKeao-00558-00190650-00190921 it is associated with AUhHaZeKeao-00559-00190922-00191290 directing directing self basically AUhHaZeKeao-00560-00191291-00191657 department manager says leading you AUhHaZeKeao-00561-00191658-00191873 teach management you teach accounting AUhHaZeKeao-00562-00191874-00192101 you teach money so giving us different AUhHaZeKeao-00563-00192102-00192587 type of work and part of leading is also AUhHaZeKeao-00564-00192588-00192738 keeping people AUhHaZeKeao-00565-00192739-00192995 responsible and keeping people AUhHaZeKeao-00566-00192996-00193363 responsible is AUhHaZeKeao-00567-00193364-00193847 controlling so you watch them do I come AUhHaZeKeao-00568-00193848-00194290 on time do we actually do work do I AUhHaZeKeao-00569-00194291-00194525 actually teach you do I give you a good AUhHaZeKeao-00570-00194526-00194707 exams so AUhHaZeKeao-00571-00194708-00195064 they actually see what we do well can AUhHaZeKeao-00572-00195065-00195287 they see what we're doing here in class AUhHaZeKeao-00573-00195288-00195545 can the boss see what we're doing well AUhHaZeKeao-00574-00195546-00195863 two ways to see one is asking you hey is AUhHaZeKeao-00575-00195864-00196109 he actually teaching you are you really AUhHaZeKeao-00576-00196110-00196343 learning some that's one way but there AUhHaZeKeao-00577-00196344-00196678 is another way hence the camera they can AUhHaZeKeao-00578-00196679-00196907 actually see that I'm teaching you they AUhHaZeKeao-00579-00196908-00197207 can actually see I'm doing so next one AUhHaZeKeao-00580-00197208-00197578 is comparing there are three professors AUhHaZeKeao-00581-00197579-00197788 in management let's see what is this guy AUhHaZeKeao-00582-00197789-00198202 teaching what is that guy aging okay AUhHaZeKeao-00583-00198203-00198604 and also correcting correcting means AUhHaZeKeao-00584-00198605-00198814 maybe Professor leaving students 10 AUhHaZeKeao-00585-00198815-00199126 minutes early okay and say oh no you got AUhHaZeKeao-00586-00199127-00199313 to keep them till the last minute okay AUhHaZeKeao-00587-00199314-00199559 or maybe Professor comes ten minutes AUhHaZeKeao-00588-00199560-00199793 late to class and say oh no you gotta AUhHaZeKeao-00589-00199794-00200176 come back on time or correcting means AUhHaZeKeao-00590-00200177-00200459 you cannot give them five quizzes five AUhHaZeKeao-00591-00200460-00200566 quizzes AUhHaZeKeao-00592-00200567-00200813 way too much right AUhHaZeKeao-00593-00200814-00201047 or maybe they say the opposite no you AUhHaZeKeao-00594-00201048-00201371 gotta have at least three questions okay AUhHaZeKeao-00595-00201372-00201773 so correcting is seeing something that AUhHaZeKeao-00596-00201774-00202078 is not right and tell them oh you gotta AUhHaZeKeao-00597-00202079-00202475 fix this and you gotta do it right okay AUhHaZeKeao-00598-00202476-00202835 so these are the four major management AUhHaZeKeao-00599-00202836-00203026 functions AUhHaZeKeao-00600-00203027-00203249 there will be most likely on the first AUhHaZeKeao-00601-00203250-00203537 quiz okay and you have to explain a AUhHaZeKeao-00602-00203538-00203993 little bit to about one or some of them AUhHaZeKeao-00603-00203994-00204538 okay now there is a different type of AUhHaZeKeao-00604-00204539-00204803 approach a different type of approach AUhHaZeKeao-00605-00204804-00205127 explaining what managers do is according AUhHaZeKeao-00606-00205128-00205457 to their roles so one strategy is you AUhHaZeKeao-00607-00205458-00205696 look at the functions and the functions AUhHaZeKeao-00608-00205698-00205960 of four but a completely different AUhHaZeKeao-00609-00205961-00206236 approach is the approach of management AUhHaZeKeao-00610-00206237-00206434 roles AUhHaZeKeao-00611-00206435-00206705 yeah you can also sometimes zoom in a AUhHaZeKeao-00612-00206706-00206903 little bit right you can zoom in a AUhHaZeKeao-00613-00206904-00207184 little bit so they can see because these AUhHaZeKeao-00614-00207185-00207514 are very tiny try to zoom in but first AUhHaZeKeao-00615-00207515-00207634 here AUhHaZeKeao-00616-00207635-00207892 as I talk and then maybe zoom in later AUhHaZeKeao-00617-00207894-00208303 here so the first one is called AUhHaZeKeao-00618-00208304-00208666 interpersonal problems and number one AUhHaZeKeao-00619-00208667-00209008 you see you have a number like 10 rows AUhHaZeKeao-00620-00209009-00209332 over here the first one is called Digger AUhHaZeKeao-00621-00209333-00209698 head and figurehead means is the big AUhHaZeKeao-00622-00209700-00210041 boss he tells what other people do he's AUhHaZeKeao-00623-00210042-00210353 everybody's looking up to him he AUhHaZeKeao-00624-00210354-00210875 provides example with his behavior with AUhHaZeKeao-00625-00210876-00211403 his clothes okay with his attitude so in AUhHaZeKeao-00626-00211404-00211703 a sense in a sense but a little bit AUhHaZeKeao-00627-00211704-00212182 different he is a leader and leader is AUhHaZeKeao-00628-00212183-00212687 number two okay figurehead will be when AUhHaZeKeao-00629-00212688-00212975 they need someone to show up on TV and AUhHaZeKeao-00630-00212976-00213221 say oh our University is great we're AUhHaZeKeao-00631-00213221-00213382 doing this and that AUhHaZeKeao-00632-00213383-00213610 the figurehead is the guy who's gonna AUhHaZeKeao-00633-00213611-00213953 show up on TV he's gonna smile and she's AUhHaZeKeao-00634-00213954-00214301 gonna say our University is great we are AUhHaZeKeao-00635-00214302-00214642 number one in southern Thailand all AUhHaZeKeao-00636-00214644-00214925 right so she's going to be the one she's AUhHaZeKeao-00637-00214926-00215201 gonna present or represent the AUhHaZeKeao-00638-00215202-00215465 university in media you're just going to AUhHaZeKeao-00639-00215466-00215717 represent the university in the AUhHaZeKeao-00640-00215717-00216017 newspapers when there is a big event AUhHaZeKeao-00641-00216017-00216305 it's going to be representing the AUhHaZeKeao-00642-00216306-00216456 University AUhHaZeKeao-00643-00216457-00216851 and final within the interpersonal role AUhHaZeKeao-00644-00216852-00217151 he will managers will function as a AUhHaZeKeao-00645-00217152-00217589 liaison liaison is a nasty French word AUhHaZeKeao-00646-00217590-00218015 which means connection connection AUhHaZeKeao-00647-00218016-00218146 so AUhHaZeKeao-00648-00218148-00218501 I gave you the example of a liaison of AUhHaZeKeao-00649-00218502-00218760 middle management middle management AUhHaZeKeao-00650-00218761-00219023 provides connection between top AUhHaZeKeao-00651-00219023-00219221 management and AUhHaZeKeao-00652-00219221-00219539 lower level management sometimes for AUhHaZeKeao-00653-00219540-00219756 lower level management they call it AUhHaZeKeao-00654-00219757-00220055 bottom management yeah button doesn't AUhHaZeKeao-00655-00220056-00220313 sound good we can battle no you don't AUhHaZeKeao-00656-00220314-00220523 want to be at the bottom right so they AUhHaZeKeao-00657-00220523-00220732 don't say bottom management they say AUhHaZeKeao-00658-00220733-00221117 first line management okay first line AUhHaZeKeao-00659-00221117-00221417 management sounds better sounds nice but AUhHaZeKeao-00660-00221417-00221717 it's bottleneck okay if you got a tough AUhHaZeKeao-00661-00221717-00221934 management you got a bottom management AUhHaZeKeao-00662-00221935-00222355 and liaison will be middle management AUhHaZeKeao-00663-00222356-00222719 providing connection between the top AUhHaZeKeao-00664-00222719-00222827 management AUhHaZeKeao-00665-00222828-00223169 and the first time man AUhHaZeKeao-00666-00223169-00223487 a completely different Pro so you see AUhHaZeKeao-00667-00223488-00223763 we've got three groups of rows roll AUhHaZeKeao-00668-00223764-00224039 number one is interpersonal with these AUhHaZeKeao-00669-00224040-00224429 three the second is information and AUhHaZeKeao-00670-00224430-00224827 informational group has a monitor grow AUhHaZeKeao-00671-00224828-00225251 monitor role will be basically the AUhHaZeKeao-00672-00225252-00225532 department management manager department AUhHaZeKeao-00673-00225533-00225881 chair looking at me and saying oh are AUhHaZeKeao-00674-00225882-00226042 you going to pass AUhHaZeKeao-00675-00226044-00226391 are these kids listening are they AUhHaZeKeao-00676-00226392-00226756 studying how are they doing basically to AUhHaZeKeao-00677-00226757-00227158 monitor means to watch the others the AUhHaZeKeao-00678-00227159-00227446 lower level people do their work you AUhHaZeKeao-00679-00227448-00227656 just watch them and see if everything is AUhHaZeKeao-00680-00227657-00228005 okay part of monitoring is to see if AUhHaZeKeao-00681-00228006-00228437 things get done if work gets done and if AUhHaZeKeao-00682-00228438-00228706 it doesn't we said later on there is a AUhHaZeKeao-00683-00228707-00229019 correction okay control AUhHaZeKeao-00684-00229019-00229284 after monitoring monitoring there is AUhHaZeKeao-00685-00229285-00229621 dissemination dissemination is AUhHaZeKeao-00686-00229621-00229944 dissemination of information AUhHaZeKeao-00687-00229946-00230363 dissemination means to give news to AUhHaZeKeao-00688-00230364-00230760 spread the news so I get from my boss AUhHaZeKeao-00689-00230761-00231113 every couple of days news well we gotta AUhHaZeKeao-00690-00231114-00231341 do this this and this uh you gotta give AUhHaZeKeao-00691-00231342-00231563 them so many exams you got to do this AUhHaZeKeao-00692-00231564-00231898 you gotta do that you cannot do this you AUhHaZeKeao-00693-00231900-00232151 cannot do it or there will be a holiday AUhHaZeKeao-00694-00232152-00232469 on whichever day okay there will be no AUhHaZeKeao-00695-00232469-00232889 plans okay or part of the dissemination AUhHaZeKeao-00696-00232890-00233225 is there will be on this week on week AUhHaZeKeao-00697-00233226-00233453 let's say number eight there will be AUhHaZeKeao-00698-00233454-00233855 midterm and on the midterm your exam AUhHaZeKeao-00699-00233856-00234131 will be with this group of management on AUhHaZeKeao-00700-00234132-00234484 whichever date okay an hour so they tell AUhHaZeKeao-00701-00234485-00234796 us certain things that are happening as AUhHaZeKeao-00702-00234798-00235084 part of your organization Okay so so AUhHaZeKeao-00703-00235085-00235434 they inform us it's about information AUhHaZeKeao-00704-00235435-00235901 and finally they act meaning the manager AUhHaZeKeao-00705-00235902-00236308 act as a spokesperson okay so a AUhHaZeKeao-00706-00236309-00236560 spokesperson means someone from the AUhHaZeKeao-00707-00236561-00236789 department will will come along and say AUhHaZeKeao-00708-00236790-00237065 oh based on our department we have so AUhHaZeKeao-00709-00237066-00237329 many faculties and whatever it is so AUhHaZeKeao-00710-00237330-00237517 they will be AUhHaZeKeao-00711-00237517-00237808 representing the department okay AUhHaZeKeao-00712-00237809-00238103 department is let's say a people well AUhHaZeKeao-00713-00238104-00238327 who's going to talk about the department AUhHaZeKeao-00714-00238328-00238558 well it's going to be the department AUhHaZeKeao-00715-00238559-00238981 chair in other words the manager will be AUhHaZeKeao-00716-00238982-00239363 the spokesperson who represents that AUhHaZeKeao-00717-00239364-00239681 business unit we say business unit is AUhHaZeKeao-00718-00239682-00239992 part of the organization and finally you AUhHaZeKeao-00719-00239994-00240287 got decisional roles in decisional role AUhHaZeKeao-00720-00240288-00240641 is that about entrepreneur AUhHaZeKeao-00721-00240642-00240877 you're familiar with this word AUhHaZeKeao-00722-00240878-00241469 entrepreneur means someone who tries to AUhHaZeKeao-00723-00241469-00241871 do new things and those new things to AUhHaZeKeao-00724-00241871-00242284 accomplish maybe new goals or to do so AUhHaZeKeao-00725-00242285-00242573 do something different or to do AUhHaZeKeao-00726-00242573-00242963 something differently and better now I'm AUhHaZeKeao-00727-00242964-00243377 acting as an entrepreneur by introducing AUhHaZeKeao-00728-00243378-00243767 a camera to the class okay this can you AUhHaZeKeao-00729-00243767-00244025 add other professors who use camera to AUhHaZeKeao-00730-00244026-00244169 record everything AUhHaZeKeao-00731-00244169-00244644 no well sometimes managers will act as AUhHaZeKeao-00732-00244646-00244913 entrepreneurs well they say hey we can AUhHaZeKeao-00733-00244914-00245219 develop this new product or the AUhHaZeKeao-00734-00245219-00245471 department chair will say oh we can have AUhHaZeKeao-00735-00245471-00245758 a brand new course coursing I don't know AUhHaZeKeao-00736-00245759-00246215 Italian cooking or Mexican Kitchen or AUhHaZeKeao-00737-00246216-00246532 Mexican we say Q is in right well you AUhHaZeKeao-00738-00246533-00246694 know they can have some idea about AUhHaZeKeao-00739-00246696-00246929 introducing a new product AUhHaZeKeao-00740-00246930-00247210 for a new service or a new way of doing AUhHaZeKeao-00741-00247211-00247391 it AUhHaZeKeao-00742-00247392-00247758 the next one is actually very important AUhHaZeKeao-00743-00247759-00248131 disturbance Handler this is the same as AUhHaZeKeao-00744-00248132-00248482 promo if there is a problem AUhHaZeKeao-00745-00248483-00248825 it's the manager's job to fix it for AUhHaZeKeao-00746-00248826-00249034 example if there is a problem in class AUhHaZeKeao-00747-00249035-00249281 okay or you're not happy about something AUhHaZeKeao-00748-00249282-00249587 you go to the manager and say oh I'm not AUhHaZeKeao-00749-00249588-00249791 happy from this professor he's not AUhHaZeKeao-00750-00249792-00250169 teaching us or he is bad to us okay he's AUhHaZeKeao-00751-00250169-00250667 the Mr bad guy right so basically AUhHaZeKeao-00752-00250667-00251148 the major function of a manager is to AUhHaZeKeao-00753-00251150-00251405 coordinate and if there are problems to AUhHaZeKeao-00754-00251406-00251692 fix problems these problems they like to AUhHaZeKeao-00755-00251694-00251992 call disturbances but disturbance will AUhHaZeKeao-00756-00251994-00252382 be for example we you know where we have AUhHaZeKeao-00757-00252383-00252689 offices or professors and there are AUhHaZeKeao-00758-00252690-00252898 eight professors of us in the office AUhHaZeKeao-00759-00252900-00253108 let's say four on the left and four on AUhHaZeKeao-00760-00253109-00253373 the right okay and one of the professors AUhHaZeKeao-00761-00253373-00253679 staring at his music okay AUhHaZeKeao-00762-00253680-00253948 and say well but I work here I'm trying AUhHaZeKeao-00763-00253950-00254219 to get work done okay says I don't care AUhHaZeKeao-00764-00254219-00254591 okay well what do I do I go and beat him AUhHaZeKeao-00765-00254592-00254681 up AUhHaZeKeao-00766-00254682-00254992 a little Thai kickboxing AUhHaZeKeao-00767-00254994-00255146 is this how it works here AUhHaZeKeao-00768-00255148-00255382 [Music] AUhHaZeKeao-00769-00255383-00255563 you guys understand AUhHaZeKeao-00770-00255564-00255827 another professor having his music up AUhHaZeKeao-00771-00255828-00256258 right loud I can't work well what do I AUhHaZeKeao-00772-00256259-00256519 do well I can't go and beat him up okay AUhHaZeKeao-00773-00256519-00257142 I go to his manager and say look your AUhHaZeKeao-00774-00257144-00257555 employee is the disturbing us with his AUhHaZeKeao-00775-00257556-00257879 music he is too much of a trouble I come AUhHaZeKeao-00776-00257880-00258184 here to work could you please tell him AUhHaZeKeao-00777-00258185-00258556 to lower his music or to stop his music AUhHaZeKeao-00778-00258557-00258863 okay so you don't just go and kick him AUhHaZeKeao-00779-00258864-00259069 in the face right AUhHaZeKeao-00780-00259069-00259591 okay the next important piece is AUhHaZeKeao-00781-00259592-00259948 resource allocator resource allocator AUhHaZeKeao-00782-00259950-00260237 World manager will decide you get thirty AUhHaZeKeao-00783-00260238-00260410 thousand you get fifty thousand you get AUhHaZeKeao-00784-00260411-00260573 seventy thousand you get a hundred AUhHaZeKeao-00785-00260573-00260825 thousand that's one way to allocate the AUhHaZeKeao-00786-00260826-00261137 resources another way to allocate the AUhHaZeKeao-00787-00261138-00261353 resources you have management you're AUhHaZeKeao-00788-00261354-00261565 gonna teach him AUhHaZeKeao-00789-00261566-00261887 4504 whatever the classroom is they're AUhHaZeKeao-00790-00261888-00262084 going to tell us you're teaching this AUhHaZeKeao-00791-00262085-00262373 classroom you're teaching that classroom AUhHaZeKeao-00792-00262374-00262691 so that's a resource another type of a AUhHaZeKeao-00793-00262692-00263003 resource allocation is time you say you AUhHaZeKeao-00794-00263004-00263315 teach 8 30 in the morning till 10 30 in AUhHaZeKeao-00795-00263316-00263513 the morning okay that's another type of AUhHaZeKeao-00796-00263514-00263891 a resource and finally another type of a AUhHaZeKeao-00797-00263892-00264245 of an allocation is you teach accounting AUhHaZeKeao-00798-00264246-00264539 you teach Finance you teach management AUhHaZeKeao-00799-00264540-00265006 okay so basically they try to distribute AUhHaZeKeao-00800-00265007-00265373 the work and they try to distribute the AUhHaZeKeao-00801-00265374-00265649 resources part of a resource allocation AUhHaZeKeao-00802-00265650-00266015 is my manager comes when I arrive three AUhHaZeKeao-00803-00266016-00266356 weeks ago and says this is your office AUhHaZeKeao-00804-00266357-00266855 and this is your key okay so office is a AUhHaZeKeao-00805-00266856-00267180 resource for us okay AUhHaZeKeao-00806-00267181-00267660 and the last number 10 is negotiator AUhHaZeKeao-00807-00267661-00268013 negotiator is I like to teach finance AUhHaZeKeao-00808-00268014-00268253 and he like to teach finance and we're AUhHaZeKeao-00809-00268254-00268529 in an argument okay well this is where AUhHaZeKeao-00810-00268530-00268775 the manager comes and says okay if you AUhHaZeKeao-00811-00268776-00268973 want to teach this you got to give him AUhHaZeKeao-00812-00268974-00269213 that or you know whatever the problem is AUhHaZeKeao-00813-00269214-00269663 for example you got let's say a 7-Eleven AUhHaZeKeao-00814-00269664-00270089 7-Eleven Works 24 hours okay and there's AUhHaZeKeao-00815-00270090-00270449 a nice shift and there's a day shift and AUhHaZeKeao-00816-00270450-00270719 the two employees arguing one says oh I AUhHaZeKeao-00817-00270720-00270880 want to work in the day the animal says AUhHaZeKeao-00818-00270881-00271193 I also want to work for the day okay so AUhHaZeKeao-00819-00271194-00271463 if there is a problem they say okay you 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AWKeIGpUBty-00000-00000049-00001604 [Music] AWKeIGpUBty-00001-00001605-00001998 you AWKeIGpUBty-00002-00002000-00002239 well some impressive work you did at the AWKeIGpUBty-00003-00002240-00002812 ICTY both of you so so going back to our AWKeIGpUBty-00004-00002813-00003040 discussion now that we've seen some AWKeIGpUBty-00005-00003041-00003364 clips from it what what would you say AWKeIGpUBty-00006-00003365-00003522 what would you say were the some of the AWKeIGpUBty-00007-00003523-00003778 key features of the ICTY that AWKeIGpUBty-00008-00003779-00004078 distinguished it from say the domestic AWKeIGpUBty-00009-00004079-00004231 criminal procedures or other AWKeIGpUBty-00010-00004232-00004506 international fact-finding missions AWKeIGpUBty-00011-00004507-00004750 maybe then I can answer first and then AWKeIGpUBty-00012-00004751-00005266 followed by Patrick AWKeIGpUBty-00013-00005267-00005744 you some of you might remember that in AWKeIGpUBty-00014-00005745-00006167 1993 when the 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AWKeIGpUBty-00028-00011442-00011687 many cases going on and we are talking AWKeIGpUBty-00029-00011688-00012106 about the end of the 90s and early 2000 AWKeIGpUBty-00030-00012107-00012785 many victim witnesses were asked to come AWKeIGpUBty-00031-00012786-00013066 and testify for some of them in the AWKeIGpUBty-00032-00013067-00013346 Milosevic trial for example the AWKeIGpUBty-00033-00013347-00013802 villagers from Kosovo would needed their AWKeIGpUBty-00034-00013803-00014018 passport issued for the first time in AWKeIGpUBty-00035-00014019-00014191 their life because they never left our AWKeIGpUBty-00036-00014193-00014531 village before so it actually opened up AWKeIGpUBty-00037-00014532-00014855 a discussion what is the purpose of AWKeIGpUBty-00038-00014856-00015316 having such an alien court in a faraway AWKeIGpUBty-00039-00015318-00016003 country for the constituency of victims AWKeIGpUBty-00040-00016004-00016603 that per definition ascribed great AWKeIGpUBty-00041-00016604-00016847 expectation and meaning to the court and AWKeIGpUBty-00042-00016848-00017252 I remember participating in some of AWKeIGpUBty-00043-00017253-00017847 these discussions and with arguments Pro AWKeIGpUBty-00044-00017848-00018314 against an international court with AWKeIGpUBty-00045-00018315-00018455 proceedings held AWKeIGpUBty-00046-00018456-00018851 in English yes translated but you know AWKeIGpUBty-00047-00018852-00019073 translation is always different than a AWKeIGpUBty-00048-00019074-00019268 direct engagement that victims can AWKeIGpUBty-00049-00019269-00019886 follow it and I was sort of bouncing and AWKeIGpUBty-00050-00019887-00020240 shifting my positions on that for very AWKeIGpUBty-00051-00020241-00020468 long period of time in this discussion AWKeIGpUBty-00052-00020469-00020753 going from yes International Criminal AWKeIGpUBty-00053-00020754-00021179 Code was the only workable and possible AWKeIGpUBty-00054-00021180-00021334 solution at the time and then a AWKeIGpUBty-00055-00021335-00021728 regretting the end physical and mental AWKeIGpUBty-00056-00021729-00022067 and cognitive and even emotional AWKeIGpUBty-00057-00022068-00022342 distance it created to its biggest AWKeIGpUBty-00058-00022343-00022652 constituency in the region itself and I AWKeIGpUBty-00059-00022653-00023156 must say that bouncing from one argument AWKeIGpUBty-00060-00023157-00023441 to another I completely came back to my AWKeIGpUBty-00061-00023442-00023752 initial understanding why an AWKeIGpUBty-00062-00023753-00024052 international court was important and AWKeIGpUBty-00063-00024053-00024622 not least for the reasons important for AWKeIGpUBty-00064-00024623-00024983 the title of this conference if you AWKeIGpUBty-00065-00024984-00025367 would have had national courts they AWKeIGpUBty-00066-00025368-00025771 would never have the power international AWKeIGpUBty-00067-00025772-00026420 UN court head in compelling member AWKeIGpUBty-00068-00026420-00026756 states to produce needed documentation AWKeIGpUBty-00069-00026757-00027299 and now in retrospect the importance and AWKeIGpUBty-00070-00027300-00027533 and you might remember some of you might AWKeIGpUBty-00071-00027533-00028106 even remember a huge discussion with AWKeIGpUBty-00072-00028107-00028631 with with criticism of Yugoslavia AWKeIGpUBty-00073-00028632-00028976 tribunal being a UN court because UN AWKeIGpUBty-00074-00028977-00029215 forces were forces on the ground when AWKeIGpUBty-00075-00029216-00029414 the most of gravest crimes were AWKeIGpUBty-00076-00029414-00029660 happening so the whole idea was how AWKeIGpUBty-00077-00029661-00030149 could UN found a court while UN forces AWKeIGpUBty-00078-00030150-00030520 were directly or indirectly or implied AWKeIGpUBty-00079-00030522-00030908 in in the crimes but when it comes to AWKeIGpUBty-00080-00030908-00031268 collection of documentary and other AWKeIGpUBty-00081-00031269-00031850 evidence from states such as Serbia AWKeIGpUBty-00082-00031851-00032350 the best evidence coming from state AWKeIGpUBty-00083-00032351-00032954 institutions came because of Yugoslav AWKeIGpUBty-00084-00032955-00033230 tribunal as a court was founded in AWKeIGpUBty-00085-00033231-00033824 chapter 7 chapter on the security of the AWKeIGpUBty-00086-00033825-00034067 UN that compelled every member state to AWKeIGpUBty-00087-00034068-00034393 to cooperate so when it comes to AWKeIGpUBty-00088-00034394-00034822 differences in international and AWKeIGpUBty-00089-00034823-00035299 national jurisdictions my argument for AWKeIGpUBty-00090-00035300-00035645 international would prevail not least AWKeIGpUBty-00091-00035646-00036140 because of access and possibility to AWKeIGpUBty-00092-00036141-00036350 compel States to cooperate this AWKeIGpUBty-00093-00036351-00036611 cooperation of course didn't go very AWKeIGpUBty-00094-00036612-00036842 smoothly and states would always find AWKeIGpUBty-00095-00036843-00037247 way to avoid cooperating fully because AWKeIGpUBty-00096-00037248-00037601 as you know states still sacred cows of AWKeIGpUBty-00097-00037602-00037999 international criminal system and a non AWKeIGpUBty-00098-00038000-00038371 cooperative state will be by default AWKeIGpUBty-00099-00038372-00038756 protected by other democratic states AWKeIGpUBty-00100-00038757-00038960 because they might find themselves in AWKeIGpUBty-00101-00038961-00039403 the same position and be forced AWKeIGpUBty-00102-00039404-00039794 documentation in a other criminal AWKeIGpUBty-00103-00039795-00040067 procedure of mass atrocities so this AWKeIGpUBty-00104-00040068-00040376 there was also the understanding among AWKeIGpUBty-00105-00040377-00040715 states that they needed to protect each AWKeIGpUBty-00106-00040716-00041032 other from international court such as AWKeIGpUBty-00107-00041033-00041444 icty but still prosecution would have AWKeIGpUBty-00108-00041445-00041815 never succeeded in assembling so many AWKeIGpUBty-00109-00041816-00042062 documents from state archives not just AWKeIGpUBty-00110-00042063-00042293 from Serbia and states who were directly AWKeIGpUBty-00111-00042294-00042494 involved in the conflict but from other AWKeIGpUBty-00112-00042495-00042776 other states as well so this would be my AWKeIGpUBty-00113-00042777-00042947 most compelling argument for AWKeIGpUBty-00114-00042948-00043274 international courts is that the AWKeIGpUBty-00115-00043275-00043535 definite advantage in terms of AWKeIGpUBty-00116-00043536-00043832 collecting documentary evidence because AWKeIGpUBty-00117-00043833-00044107 precisely because the ICTY was a UN AWKeIGpUBty-00118-00044108-00044590 Charter based Court okay and Patrick you AWKeIGpUBty-00119-00044591-00044840 also have many experiences in other AWKeIGpUBty-00120-00044841-00045009 different countries as well AWKeIGpUBty-00121-00045010-00045291 so which also compared perhaps compared AWKeIGpUBty-00122-00045292-00045522 your experience from 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AWKeIGpUBty-00136-00049015-00049140 the legal reasoning or anything like AWKeIGpUBty-00137-00049141-00049410 that but as an expert I found it AWKeIGpUBty-00138-00049411-00049767 striking how variable judges are in AWKeIGpUBty-00139-00049768-00049980 terms of whether or not they care what AWKeIGpUBty-00140-00049981-00050397 the answer is so when I give talks about AWKeIGpUBty-00141-00050398-00050637 statistics I often ask at the beginning AWKeIGpUBty-00142-00050638-00051003 of the talk I say hey you know we all AWKeIGpUBty-00143-00051004-00051195 need to make graphs how many of you care AWKeIGpUBty-00144-00051196-00051699 if the answer is right and some hands go AWKeIGpUBty-00145-00051700-00051955 up and other people chuckle nervously AWKeIGpUBty-00146-00051957-00052290 but many times people want a graph or a AWKeIGpUBty-00147-00052291-00052452 statistic but they don't really care if AWKeIGpUBty-00148-00052453-00052977 the answers right honestly in the five AWKeIGpUBty-00149-00052978-00053166 trials I've testified in and only one of AWKeIGpUBty-00150-00053166-00053295 them did I have the sense that the AWKeIGpUBty-00151-00053296-00053445 judges didn't really care what the AWKeIGpUBty-00152-00053446-00053792 answer was in the others it was striking AWKeIGpUBty-00153-00053794-00054066 how thoughtfully and carefully the AWKeIGpUBty-00154-00054066-00054447 judges questioned me they had when they AWKeIGpUBty-00155-00054448-00054603 didn't understand something I was saying AWKeIGpUBty-00156-00054604-00054783 they would either interrupt me or during AWKeIGpUBty-00157-00054784-00054915 their question period they'd say look AWKeIGpUBty-00158-00054916-00055113 what are you trying to say here what's AWKeIGpUBty-00159-00055114-00055335 the point of this and they'd ask very AWKeIGpUBty-00160-00055336-00055641 subtle very thoughtful often very AWKeIGpUBty-00161-00055641-00055836 provocative questions that I had to AWKeIGpUBty-00162-00055837-00056105 answer those were the really good trials AWKeIGpUBty-00163-00056107-00056316 and they were also I think the trials AWKeIGpUBty-00164-00056316-00056535 that produced well of course in the AWKeIGpUBty-00165-00056536-00056685 Melissa which we don't have a finding AWKeIGpUBty-00166-00056686-00056963 but they produced the best outcomes AWKeIGpUBty-00167-00056964-00057237 intellectually we got two really good AWKeIGpUBty-00168-00057238-00057570 answers but if the judges don't care AWKeIGpUBty-00169-00057571-00057828 what the answer is and the prosecutor is AWKeIGpUBty-00170-00057829-00058086 unable to persuade them to care you can AWKeIGpUBty-00171-00058087-00058235 get a bad outcome AWKeIGpUBty-00172-00058236-00058579 and that that's also a problem even if AWKeIGpUBty-00173-00058580-00058814 the judges legal reasoning may be very AWKeIGpUBty-00174-00058815-00059036 very high quality if they aren't willing AWKeIGpUBty-00175-00059037-00059288 to do something that's uncomfortable for AWKeIGpUBty-00176-00059289-00059530 them and science is often uncomfortable AWKeIGpUBty-00177-00059532-00059822 for people who have not studied it they AWKeIGpUBty-00178-00059823-00059992 will have a bad outcome in this trial AWKeIGpUBty-00179-00059994-00060209 the judge joked five minutes into my AWKeIGpUBty-00180-00060210-00060505 testimony he told the joke haha dr. ball AWKeIGpUBty-00181-00060507-00060740 dr. ball wait for a moment you know AWKeIGpUBty-00182-00060741-00060962 study some of us studied the law because AWKeIGpUBty-00183-00060963-00061373 we were poor at math Patrick may I AWKeIGpUBty-00184-00061374-00061502 interrupt you AWKeIGpUBty-00185-00061503-00061733 it certainly wasn't a sir Jeffrey nice AWKeIGpUBty-00186-00061734-00061994 it was not judge as well but he went to AWKeIGpUBty-00187-00061995-00062462 Oxford first just to read math and he he AWKeIGpUBty-00188-00062463-00062857 never studied law at Oxford so it was AWKeIGpUBty-00189-00062858-00063161 this is what I noticed this elaborate AWKeIGpUBty-00190-00063162-00063401 way you were allowed to present your AWKeIGpUBty-00191-00063402-00063695 methodology comes from his genuine AWKeIGpUBty-00192-00063696-00064151 interest sir Jeffrey got that when I AWKeIGpUBty-00193-00064152-00064330 explained this stuff to him I've told AWKeIGpUBty-00194-00064332-00064529 the anecdote many times I have never AWKeIGpUBty-00195-00064529-00064751 explained a complicated statistical AWKeIGpUBty-00196-00064752-00064954 argument to a non statistician who AWKeIGpUBty-00197-00064955-00065108 understood it more quickly than Sir AWKeIGpUBty-00198-00065109-00065315 Geoffrey did he got it in an instant and AWKeIGpUBty-00199-00065316-00065534 began asking very good questions right AWKeIGpUBty-00200-00065535-00065753 away and I think that was what led to it AWKeIGpUBty-00201-00065754-00065909 but also the judges in this case all AWKeIGpUBty-00202-00065910-00066104 three of the judges judge may judge Quon AWKeIGpUBty-00203-00066105-00066347 judge Robinson all asked me challenging AWKeIGpUBty-00204-00066348-00066494 and thoughtful questions in the most AWKeIGpUBty-00205-00066495-00066644 which case and so that I think led to a AWKeIGpUBty-00206-00066645-00066884 good and rich common understanding of AWKeIGpUBty-00207-00066885-00067088 what I was trying to argue in this other AWKeIGpUBty-00208-00067089-00067277 case where the judge dismissed the math AWKeIGpUBty-00209-00067278-00067475 in his finding in fact he made AWKeIGpUBty-00210-00067476-00067670 correction he made a series of findings AWKeIGpUBty-00211-00067671-00067898 that were unsupported by any actual AWKeIGpUBty-00212-00067899-00068153 scientific reasoning he the defense had AWKeIGpUBty-00213-00068154-00068291 another expert who said things that were AWKeIGpUBty-00214-00068292-00068450 absurd that were completely AWKeIGpUBty-00215-00068451-00068612 non-scientific and would not have passed AWKeIGpUBty-00216-00068613-00068891 even the slightest bit of review but AWKeIGpUBty-00217-00068892-00069104 that turns out to be the judges finding AWKeIGpUBty-00218-00069105-00069254 because he didn't really want to think AWKeIGpUBty-00219-00069255-00069413 about the math he wanted to dismiss it AWKeIGpUBty-00220-00069414-00069590 so you have to think when you're when AWKeIGpUBty-00221-00069591-00069860 you're in a in a judicial context when I AWKeIGpUBty-00222-00069861-00070055 said as part of my perpetrator materials AWKeIGpUBty-00223-00070056-00070253 for this your audience are the judges AWKeIGpUBty-00224-00070254-00070532 that's right and if you can't persuade AWKeIGpUBty-00225-00070533-00070712 them or if they don't want to be AWKeIGpUBty-00226-00070713-00070934 persuaded as an expert there's very AWKeIGpUBty-00227-00070935-00071183 little you can do you're stuck but you AWKeIGpUBty-00228-00071184-00071462 know I'm four for five so in four of the AWKeIGpUBty-00229-00071463-00071578 five cases we've had AWKeIGpUBty-00230-00071579-00071746 judges that really did want to know the AWKeIGpUBty-00231-00071747-00071941 answer and ask really good questions I'm AWKeIGpUBty-00232-00071942-00072157 especially struck by this most recent AWKeIGpUBty-00233-00072158-00072289 case in front of the extraordinary AWKeIGpUBty-00234-00072290-00072607 African chambers where the argument was AWKeIGpUBty-00235-00072608-00072823 somewhat subtle and the judges asked all AWKeIGpUBty-00236-00072824-00073036 three judges ask terrific questions and AWKeIGpUBty-00237-00073037-00073465 in their findings they wrote very useful AWKeIGpUBty-00238-00073466-00073591 interpretations they linked the AWKeIGpUBty-00239-00073592-00073792 scientific evidence to some of the legal AWKeIGpUBty-00240-00073793-00074074 and eyewitness evidence an argument in a AWKeIGpUBty-00241-00074075-00074224 very thoughtful and interesting way that AWKeIGpUBty-00242-00074225-00074509 I had never foreseen before so you can AWKeIGpUBty-00243-00074510-00074746 get really good outcomes but it's you AWKeIGpUBty-00244-00074747-00074929 know you can also very occasionally one AWKeIGpUBty-00245-00074930-00075580 time in five get a bad outcome well it's AWKeIGpUBty-00246-00075581-00075984 interesting listening to to Patrick and AWKeIGpUBty-00247-00075985-00076390 because you know when I was not expert AWKeIGpUBty-00248-00076391-00076842 witness but I worked as a non lawyer AWKeIGpUBty-00249-00076843-00077355 with lawyers and very often they would AWKeIGpUBty-00250-00077356-00077818 tell me and my colleagues from a team AWKeIGpUBty-00251-00077819-00078049 that was called leadership research team AWKeIGpUBty-00252-00078050-00078379 that was part of the prosecution and we AWKeIGpUBty-00253-00078380-00078682 were asked for different trial teams to AWKeIGpUBty-00254-00078683-00078898 help lawyers and another team of non AWKeIGpUBty-00255-00078899-00079087 lawyers and non investigators with AWKeIGpUBty-00256-00079088-00079414 military analyst teams the the military AWKeIGpUBty-00257-00079415-00079717 experts who would guide lawyers and AWKeIGpUBty-00258-00079718-00079954 investigators in understanding military AWKeIGpUBty-00259-00079955-00080134 component which was a huge component AWKeIGpUBty-00260-00080135-00080413 when it comes to to implementation of AWKeIGpUBty-00261-00080414-00080659 the plan and Commission of mass AWKeIGpUBty-00262-00080660-00080830 atrocities obviously because military AWKeIGpUBty-00263-00080831-00081118 infrastructure so it was interesting AWKeIGpUBty-00264-00081119-00081319 Patrick was saying he was trying to AWKeIGpUBty-00265-00081320-00081628 convince judges it was his audience we AWKeIGpUBty-00266-00081629-00082039 from my team never try to do it I even I AWKeIGpUBty-00267-00082040-00082288 didn't know the names of the judges they AWKeIGpUBty-00268-00082289-00082543 were so far from me I needed I only AWKeIGpUBty-00269-00082544-00082768 needed to persuade my lawyer AWKeIGpUBty-00270-00082769-00083314 and it was lawyers skill then and it was AWKeIGpUBty-00271-00083315-00083581 completely different skill to convince AWKeIGpUBty-00272-00083582-00083836 judges and I would lose patience but we AWKeIGpUBty-00273-00083837-00084067 say but judges wouldn't understand it is AWKeIGpUBty-00274-00084068-00084304 it what do I care I understand it and AWKeIGpUBty-00275-00084305-00084553 I'm telling you what I understand so use AWKeIGpUBty-00276-00084554-00084946 your legal skills rhetoric AWKeIGpUBty-00277-00084947-00085300 to convince them so if you felt that you AWKeIGpUBty-00278-00085301-00085537 were that you were communicating with AWKeIGpUBty-00279-00085538-00085804 judges you were missing a very able AWKeIGpUBty-00280-00085805-00086077 lawyer in between to translate your AWKeIGpUBty-00281-00086078-00086320 language through his or her questions to AWKeIGpUBty-00282-00086321-00086569 the judges so I wouldn't go immediately AWKeIGpUBty-00283-00086570-00086893 to address judges I would first go and AWKeIGpUBty-00284-00086894-00087340 say hey lawyer you are having as a AWKeIGpUBty-00285-00087341-00087979 prosecution lawyer it it is you are AWKeIGpUBty-00286-00087980-00088180 soliciting testimony from me I'm your AWKeIGpUBty-00287-00088181-00088456 witness so you should know what you want AWKeIGpUBty-00288-00088457-00088771 judges to know and that was fascinating AWKeIGpUBty-00289-00088772-00089104 an interesting filter for all of us who AWKeIGpUBty-00290-00089105-00089341 basically had the same goal that the AWKeIGpUBty-00291-00089342-00089596 most important arguments were heard in AWKeIGpUBty-00292-00089597-00089994 the courtroom but without very skillful AWKeIGpUBty-00293-00089995-00090595 legal technical language between the AWKeIGpUBty-00294-00090596-00090916 witness and the judges there is no AWKeIGpUBty-00295-00090917-00091219 success so Patrick you mentioned you're AWKeIGpUBty-00296-00091220-00091387 you know you're kind of focused on the AWKeIGpUBty-00297-00091388-00091510 judges when you were making your AWKeIGpUBty-00298-00091511-00091705 presentations but I assume that you AWKeIGpUBty-00299-00091706-00092029 definitely discuss the matter with the AWKeIGpUBty-00300-00092030-00092296 lawyers to specific the prosecutors AWKeIGpUBty-00301-00092297-00092551 before when before the you made the AWKeIGpUBty-00302-00092552-00092841 testimonies and how did that work out AWKeIGpUBty-00303-00092842-00093091 different different court contexts have AWKeIGpUBty-00304-00093092-00093499 different ways that that happens in in AWKeIGpUBty-00305-00093500-00093697 the context of the Milosevic case I AWKeIGpUBty-00306-00093698-00093859 worked pretty closely and I had several AWKeIGpUBty-00307-00093860-00094066 meetings with Sir Geoffrey and with AWKeIGpUBty-00308-00094067-00094285 others in the team and we explained AWKeIGpUBty-00309-00094286-00094483 everything and people got it very AWKeIGpUBty-00310-00094484-00094621 quickly people understood the argument AWKeIGpUBty-00311-00094622-00094915 and indeed they're in court I was led I AWKeIGpUBty-00312-00094916-00095419 was very ably led in the in my direct in AWKeIGpUBty-00313-00095420-00095797 my direct testimony that's not always AWKeIGpUBty-00314-00095798-00096067 how it works in other legal contexts AWKeIGpUBty-00315-00096068-00096433 I've had very little contact with the AWKeIGpUBty-00316-00096434-00096703 prosecutors maybe only 10 or 15 minutes AWKeIGpUBty-00317-00096704-00096955 and it's not clear to me if they AWKeIGpUBty-00318-00096956-00097141 understand what I'm saying or maybe they AWKeIGpUBty-00319-00097142-00097633 do well I mean it's both not good and AWKeIGpUBty-00320-00097634-00097831 good I mean in some sense as a scientist AWKeIGpUBty-00321-00097832-00098110 my job is not to support the prosecution AWKeIGpUBty-00322-00098111-00098284 my job is to present the science AWKeIGpUBty-00323-00098285-00098496 and so I'm actually comfortable with AWKeIGpUBty-00324-00098497-00098763 that context now it leaves me very very AWKeIGpUBty-00325-00098764-00098973 vulnerable if the defense start saying AWKeIGpUBty-00326-00098974-00099219 things that are nonsense when the first AWKeIGpUBty-00327-00099220-00099423 know like militant a [__] AWKeIGpUBty-00328-00099424-00099561 I mean Melissa [__] said crazy things AWKeIGpUBty-00329-00099562-00099750 but judge may wasn't having none of it AWKeIGpUBty-00330-00099751-00099990 and I don't really think that was a huge AWKeIGpUBty-00331-00099991-00100263 risk but in militant a [__] the defense AWKeIGpUBty-00332-00100264-00100515 said crazy ridiculous nonsensical things AWKeIGpUBty-00333-00100516-00100785 and the judge just took it as though it AWKeIGpUBty-00334-00100786-00101034 was reasonable I mean it was disastrous AWKeIGpUBty-00335-00101035-00101205 for me I mean I understand there was a AWKeIGpUBty-00336-00101206-00101391 good legal outcome but it was it was AWKeIGpUBty-00337-00101392-00101577 disastrous for the scientific quality of AWKeIGpUBty-00338-00101578-00101853 the reasoning and so that was that was AWKeIGpUBty-00339-00101854-00102030 the one that really failed in the AWKeIGpUBty-00340-00102031-00102216 Guatemalan cases it's actually not AWKeIGpUBty-00341-00102217-00102405 actually the practice that you work that AWKeIGpUBty-00342-00102406-00102549 closely with the prosecutor AWKeIGpUBty-00343-00102550-00102729 the prosecutor gives you a document that AWKeIGpUBty-00344-00102730-00103041 says the hypotheses are and then as a as AWKeIGpUBty-00345-00103042-00103302 a as a burrito giving a petty taco AWKeIGpUBty-00346-00103303-00103584 you're presenting scientific findings AWKeIGpUBty-00347-00103585-00103788 that are independent of the prosecutor AWKeIGpUBty-00348-00103789-00104118 and I like that model I think that AWKeIGpUBty-00349-00104119-00104337 models good and so there my job is not AWKeIGpUBty-00350-00104338-00104529 necessarily to persuade the prosecutor AWKeIGpUBty-00351-00104530-00104751 the prosecutor decides to call me but my AWKeIGpUBty-00352-00104752-00105012 job is to then present the scientific AWKeIGpUBty-00353-00105013-00105339 expert results as science to the judges AWKeIGpUBty-00354-00105340-00105556 and so I am my job is to persuade the AWKeIGpUBty-00355-00105557-00105729 judges in the extraordinary African AWKeIGpUBty-00356-00105730-00105990 Chambers it was also similar I had AWKeIGpUBty-00357-00105991-00106156 relatively little contact a little bit AWKeIGpUBty-00358-00106157-00106500 but not very much with the prosecutor AWKeIGpUBty-00359-00106501-00106827 and in fact I because of that it was not AWKeIGpUBty-00360-00106828-00107100 an anglo-american adversarial system but AWKeIGpUBty-00361-00107101-00107320 rather continental system my connection AWKeIGpUBty-00362-00107321-00107550 was with the investigative judges rather AWKeIGpUBty-00363-00107551-00107739 than with the prosecutor and so the AWKeIGpUBty-00364-00107740-00107920 investigative judges who were also a AWKeIGpUBty-00365-00107921-00108208 neutral party in the in the in the trial AWKeIGpUBty-00366-00108208-00108397 were the ones who said look these are AWKeIGpUBty-00367-00108398-00108532 the things that we want you to speak to AWKeIGpUBty-00368-00108533-00108765 and I said okay I can speak to this this AWKeIGpUBty-00369-00108766-00108927 and this but not this but how about this AWKeIGpUBty-00370-00108928-00109110 and they said okay yeah do these pieces AWKeIGpUBty-00371-00109111-00109345 and we agreed on the general structure AWKeIGpUBty-00372-00109346-00109551 of what I would present and then I sent AWKeIGpUBty-00373-00109552-00109696 them the expert report and then I showed AWKeIGpUBty-00374-00109697-00109948 up in court you know a year later so AWKeIGpUBty-00375-00109949-00110146 it's I think different different court AWKeIGpUBty-00376-00110147-00110340 structures have different rules about AWKeIGpUBty-00377-00110341-00110538 the way the expert and the prosecutors AWKeIGpUBty-00378-00110539-00111121 work together most curious like for AWKeIGpUBty-00379-00111122-00111438 example like crimes against humanity has AWKeIGpUBty-00380-00111439-00111646 certain definite legal definition AWKeIGpUBty-00381-00111647-00111973 and prosecution it is on prosecution has AWKeIGpUBty-00382-00111974-00112161 the burden to prove that those elements AWKeIGpUBty-00383-00112163-00112633 were fulfilled and when you when either AWKeIGpUBty-00384-00112633-00112752 of you were actually working on AWKeIGpUBty-00385-00112753-00112929 collecting evidence or presenting AWKeIGpUBty-00386-00112930-00113218 evidence did you actually have that kind AWKeIGpUBty-00387-00113219-00113427 of legal issue in mind or was it AWKeIGpUBty-00388-00113428-00113572 something that that was just left to the AWKeIGpUBty-00389-00113573-00114286 lawyers to figure out AWKeIGpUBty-00390-00114288-00114795 before well one of the thing is when you AWKeIGpUBty-00391-00114796-00115338 start working at a court dealing with AWKeIGpUBty-00392-00115339-00115571 mass atrocities and if you are no lawyer AWKeIGpUBty-00393-00115572-00115881 you come to work there without any pre AWKeIGpUBty-00394-00115882-00116121 knowledge there is no training you once AWKeIGpUBty-00395-00116122-00116508 get a job there you you get all the AWKeIGpUBty-00396-00116508-00116745 tasks and you have no idea where you're AWKeIGpUBty-00397-00116746-00116994 heading it I remember my first day AWKeIGpUBty-00398-00116995-00117249 coming to the office in May 2000 I got a AWKeIGpUBty-00399-00117250-00117441 chair and computer and they say you are AWKeIGpUBty-00400-00117442-00117600 working on a Bosnian part of the AWKeIGpUBty-00401-00117601-00117897 indictment for Milosevic and I said ok AWKeIGpUBty-00402-00117898-00118224 no guidance nothing so this a widespread AWKeIGpUBty-00403-00118225-00118557 systematic which I later understood just AWKeIGpUBty-00404-00118558-00118878 because I was so bluntly honest about my AWKeIGpUBty-00405-00118879-00119076 ignorance I would send the email to a AWKeIGpUBty-00406-00119077-00119307 team of 150 people and say what is that AWKeIGpUBty-00407-00119308-00119514 and people would come to me said weren't AWKeIGpUBty-00408-00119515-00119679 you embarrassed I said no I would be AWKeIGpUBty-00409-00119680-00119865 more embarrassed to work without knowing AWKeIGpUBty-00410-00119866-00120147 it so you know I asked then I got the AWKeIGpUBty-00411-00120148-00120555 answers so for no lawyers it's a hard AWKeIGpUBty-00412-00120556-00120891 way to learn these things but then it's AWKeIGpUBty-00413-00120892-00121089 easy because you learn for practice you AWKeIGpUBty-00414-00121090-00121310 hear things that the meetings and you AWKeIGpUBty-00415-00121311-00121484 are sending the field and you have to AWKeIGpUBty-00416-00121485-00121685 know for yourself because you can over AWKeIGpUBty-00417-00121686-00121872 work you can be all over the place while AWKeIGpUBty-00418-00121873-00122115 you can focus yourself so talking about AWKeIGpUBty-00419-00122116-00122349 widespread is systematic with tests of AWKeIGpUBty-00420-00122350-00122580 proof beyond the reasonable doubt by the AWKeIGpUBty-00421-00122581-00122799 way that's what what I have learned AWKeIGpUBty-00422-00122800-00123165 immediately as well is the standard of AWKeIGpUBty-00423-00123166-00123458 proof for crimes against humanity AWKeIGpUBty-00424-00123458-00123723 opposed to genocide where you have to AWKeIGpUBty-00425-00123724-00124149 prove intent to destroy in part or in AWKeIGpUBty-00426-00124150-00124479 whole group of ethnic religious and so AWKeIGpUBty-00427-00124480-00124779 forth so what what do you do with this AWKeIGpUBty-00428-00124780-00125088 well to connect it with Patrick's expert AWKeIGpUBty-00429-00125089-00125502 testimony I remember when he came to AWKeIGpUBty-00430-00125503-00125796 testify or when he went to visit several AWKeIGpUBty-00431-00125797-00126189 times my team was called to listen to AWKeIGpUBty-00432-00126190-00126570 his lecture so he had a lecture and it AWKeIGpUBty-00433-00126571-00126908 was of course not mandatory anyone could AWKeIGpUBty-00434-00126909-00127167 come working on Milosh which case and of AWKeIGpUBty-00435-00127168-00127470 course I came I was in the audience it AWKeIGpUBty-00436-00127471-00127500 was AWKeIGpUBty-00437-00127501-00127872 small audience remember this room in the AWKeIGpUBty-00438-00127873-00128313 circle and I remember him talk and I AWKeIGpUBty-00439-00128314-00128517 remember talking to Sir Geoffrey and AWKeIGpUBty-00440-00128518-00128832 other lawyers about it afterwards he AWKeIGpUBty-00441-00128833-00129114 gave us from all these interesting AWKeIGpUBty-00442-00129115-00129527 statistics you now show has ever seen AWKeIGpUBty-00443-00129528-00129813 probabilities and so forth he actually AWKeIGpUBty-00444-00129814-00130419 gave us very concrete dates where he saw AWKeIGpUBty-00445-00130420-00130661 the MOOC huge moments of Kosovo AWKeIGpUBty-00446-00130663-00131192 population living living Kosovo and that AWKeIGpUBty-00447-00131193-00131667 stuck in our minds and this is why this AWKeIGpUBty-00448-00131668-00131934 widespread and systematic comes from AWKeIGpUBty-00449-00131935-00132516 many many places and you as a lawyer and AWKeIGpUBty-00450-00132517-00132885 non lawyer you then very easily AWKeIGpUBty-00451-00132886-00133158 recognize collaboration of this evidence AWKeIGpUBty-00452-00133159-00133443 from other places so Patrick and I AWKeIGpUBty-00453-00133444-00133764 talked this morning about development of AWKeIGpUBty-00454-00133765-00134217 evidence and during the defense part of AWKeIGpUBty-00455-00134218-00134724 the case there was a kernel Vlatko AWKeIGpUBty-00456-00134725-00135308 Vuckovich who was then part of AWKeIGpUBty-00457-00135309-00135918 Yugoslavia and we got hold of his AWKeIGpUBty-00458-00135919-00136374 wartime diary and this widespread and AWKeIGpUBty-00459-00136375-00136682 systematic that we already knew from AWKeIGpUBty-00460-00136683-00136929 statistics without Patrick even being AWKeIGpUBty-00461-00136930-00137310 that all these different places we saw AWKeIGpUBty-00462-00137311-00137541 the movements of people and then you AWKeIGpUBty-00463-00137542-00137949 read it in the wartime diary where this AWKeIGpUBty-00464-00137950-00138240 colonel is mentioning exactly the same AWKeIGpUBty-00465-00138241-00138603 places exactly the same dates and at the AWKeIGpUBty-00466-00138604-00138951 end of every page he would write 1000 AWKeIGpUBty-00467-00138952-00139479 expell'd next page 1500 expelled so yeah AWKeIGpUBty-00468-00139480-00139839 widespread and systematic comes not only AWKeIGpUBty-00469-00139840-00140187 from one place it comes if you know what AWKeIGpUBty-00470-00140188-00140403 you're looking for you recognize it in AWKeIGpUBty-00471-00140404-00140634 almost every evidence including of AWKeIGpUBty-00472-00140635-00140831 course victim AWKeIGpUBty-00473-00140832-00141124 statements testimony testimonies and so AWKeIGpUBty-00474-00141125-00141328 forth but another thing with Sir AWKeIGpUBty-00475-00141329-00141541 Geoffrey was saying and I think that is AWKeIGpUBty-00476-00141542-00141797 maybe what Ethan was referring to in the AWKeIGpUBty-00477-00141798-00142066 first place was how do I prove it how AWKeIGpUBty-00478-00142067-00142600 much is enough for me logical case and I AWKeIGpUBty-00479-00142601-00143001 think George corn is is mischievously AWKeIGpUBty-00480-00143002-00143285 grinning about that because I do think AWKeIGpUBty-00481-00143286-00143538 there was a huge there there was AWKeIGpUBty-00482-00143539-00143819 difference in approach that judges would AWKeIGpUBty-00483-00143820-00144106 have liked to see from a low sheet case AWKeIGpUBty-00484-00144107-00144410 because as judge Mayer said you can't AWKeIGpUBty-00485-00144411-00144616 have so many witnesses you can't have so AWKeIGpUBty-00486-00144617-00144973 many crime scenes but we had to why AWKeIGpUBty-00487-00144974-00145465 tomorrow I will show you maps of counts AWKeIGpUBty-00488-00145466-00145729 in Malaysia each case there were 66 AWKeIGpUBty-00489-00145730-00145999 counts spread over three different AWKeIGpUBty-00490-00146000-00146231 conflicts in time and geographic area AWKeIGpUBty-00491-00146232-00146756 and if we needed to prove and widespread AWKeIGpUBty-00492-00146757-00147103 and systematic and intent because we had AWKeIGpUBty-00493-00147104-00147443 genocide charges as well and if we AWKeIGpUBty-00494-00147444-00147811 wanted to show that all three wars are AWKeIGpUBty-00495-00147812-00148043 part of the same criminal intersection AWKeIGpUBty-00496-00148044-00148363 to create post Yugoslav Serbian state AWKeIGpUBty-00497-00148364-00148654 that extended its borders to the West in AWKeIGpUBty-00498-00148655-00148906 the areas that Serbs were never majority AWKeIGpUBty-00499-00148907-00149174 but that these territories had to be AWKeIGpUBty-00500-00149175-00149575 conquered we needed to include as many AWKeIGpUBty-00501-00149576-00149758 counts as we could because AWKeIGpUBty-00502-00149759-00150076 geographically and in time we had to AWKeIGpUBty-00503-00150077-00150361 prove that was not one time mistake that AWKeIGpUBty-00504-00150362-00150591 people were killed but that was AWKeIGpUBty-00505-00150592-00150974 premeditated plan so we were including AWKeIGpUBty-00506-00150975-00151291 all counts that would cover this AWKeIGpUBty-00507-00151292-00151595 geography but then the question would be AWKeIGpUBty-00508-00151596-00152229 each count had sometimes 15 charges and AWKeIGpUBty-00509-00152230-00152570 that becomes then a problem if you want AWKeIGpUBty-00510-00152571-00152761 to prove all the charges within one AWKeIGpUBty-00511-00152762-00153083 count you would have for each count each AWKeIGpUBty-00512-00153084-00153449 geographical place 20 witnesses so we AWKeIGpUBty-00513-00153450-00153710 lost some charges but we hardly lost AWKeIGpUBty-00514-00153711-00153991 count and this was our calculation AWKeIGpUBty-00515-00153992-00154172 do not lose count AWKeIGpUBty-00516-00154173-00154400 lose charges if it's necessary to lose AWKeIGpUBty-00517-00154401-00154646 so I hope it's not too technical too AWKeIGpUBty-00518-00154647-00154883 complicated and I hope judge corn would AWKeIGpUBty-00519-00154884-00155212 be able to to reply to this AWKeIGpUBty-00520-00155213-00155479 perhaps we should invite judge grant for AWKeIGpUBty-00521-00155480-00155918 short explanation but no it's right so AWKeIGpUBty-00522-00155919-00156083 Patrick do you also have to have this AWKeIGpUBty-00523-00156084-00156277 kind of prior legal knowledge that AWKeIGpUBty-00524-00156278-00156461 helped in your putting together your AWKeIGpUBty-00525-00156462-00156875 evidence no no not at all AWKeIGpUBty-00526-00156876-00157136 and to this day I don't really AWKeIGpUBty-00527-00157137-00157649 understand most of the law and I don't AWKeIGpUBty-00528-00157650-00157883 really think it's my job to do so what AWKeIGpUBty-00529-00157884-00158125 what my job is to do is this is very AWKeIGpUBty-00530-00158126-00158306 often the position statisticians are in AWKeIGpUBty-00531-00158307-00158519 is that statisticians very often are AWKeIGpUBty-00532-00158520-00158716 working with substantive experts in AWKeIGpUBty-00533-00158717-00158972 other fields working with biologists AWKeIGpUBty-00534-00158973-00159137 we're working with survey people we're AWKeIGpUBty-00535-00159138-00159412 working with people doing medical AWKeIGpUBty-00536-00159413-00159664 experiments and our job is to figure out AWKeIGpUBty-00537-00159665-00159889 what is the question these people are AWKeIGpUBty-00538-00159890-00160124 trying to figure out what is the fact AWKeIGpUBty-00539-00160125-00160288 that these that the that our AWKeIGpUBty-00540-00160289-00160513 counterparts our partners need to AWKeIGpUBty-00541-00160514-00160837 understand and so we have to listen to AWKeIGpUBty-00542-00160838-00161147 them listen through their substantive AWKeIGpUBty-00543-00161148-00161348 complexities and figure out what's the AWKeIGpUBty-00544-00161349-00161723 question so I'll talk I'm not sure AWKeIGpUBty-00545-00161724-00161918 what's tomorrow in my other session I'll AWKeIGpUBty-00546-00161919-00162178 talk about what a genocide mean to a AWKeIGpUBty-00547-00162179-00162451 statistician now genocide has all kinds AWKeIGpUBty-00548-00162452-00162703 of complicated legal meanings that to a AWKeIGpUBty-00549-00162704-00163039 statistician genocide means okay you AWKeIGpUBty-00550-00163040-00163312 have this area and a lot of people got AWKeIGpUBty-00551-00163313-00163472 killed but not just a lot of people AWKeIGpUBty-00552-00163473-00163757 people of this kind did get killed and AWKeIGpUBty-00553-00163758-00164032 people of that kind did not get killed AWKeIGpUBty-00554-00164033-00164387 you need a big difference in the rate of AWKeIGpUBty-00555-00164388-00164638 killing between these two people now AWKeIGpUBty-00556-00164639-00164843 that's not a legal definition by any AWKeIGpUBty-00557-00164844-00165050 means in fact I've heard lawyers argued AWKeIGpUBty-00558-00165051-00165209 to me that you can have a charge of AWKeIGpUBty-00559-00165210-00165407 genocide without anybody getting killed AWKeIGpUBty-00560-00165408-00165695 maybe so maybe not but for a AWKeIGpUBty-00561-00165696-00165875 statistician this notion of the AWKeIGpUBty-00562-00165876-00166100 difference in the killing rate what a AWKeIGpUBty-00563-00166101-00166283 statistician would call a relative risk AWKeIGpUBty-00564-00166284-00166823 is for us useful index or indicia of AWKeIGpUBty-00565-00166824-00167161 genocide so in the case in Guatemala we AWKeIGpUBty-00566-00167162-00167461 showed that for an indigenous person AWKeIGpUBty-00567-00167462-00167547 living AWKeIGpUBty-00568-00167548-00167781 the three counties in which the AWKeIGpUBty-00569-00167782-00167946 prosecution alleged that the army had AWKeIGpUBty-00570-00167947-00168171 committed genocide the probability of AWKeIGpUBty-00571-00168172-00168494 being killed was eight times greater AWKeIGpUBty-00572-00168495-00168801 than for a non-indigenous person living AWKeIGpUBty-00573-00168802-00168929 in the same place AWKeIGpUBty-00574-00168930-00169200 okay so the relative risk is a factor of AWKeIGpUBty-00575-00169201-00169449 eight now that took something like AWKeIGpUBty-00576-00169450-00169620 eleven years of research to come up with AWKeIGpUBty-00577-00169621-00169986 but that little statistic is not proof AWKeIGpUBty-00578-00169987-00170226 of genocide and I would point out that AWKeIGpUBty-00579-00170227-00170409 none of the statistical reasoning I've AWKeIGpUBty-00580-00170410-00170672 presented in any of these cases is proof AWKeIGpUBty-00581-00170673-00171096 it's all circumstantial it's all the AWKeIGpUBty-00582-00171097-00171402 kind of pattern we would expect if the AWKeIGpUBty-00583-00171403-00171756 prosecution's hypotheses are true if the AWKeIGpUBty-00584-00171757-00171894 problem if what the prosecution is AWKeIGpUBty-00585-00171895-00172086 alleging are true these are the AWKeIGpUBty-00586-00172087-00172329 statistics we would expect to see we see AWKeIGpUBty-00587-00172330-00172554 them that adds a little bit of weight to AWKeIGpUBty-00588-00172555-00172788 what the prosecution is saying but it is AWKeIGpUBty-00589-00172789-00173040 not proof and it's not proof because AWKeIGpUBty-00590-00173041-00173337 there may be some other pattern that we AWKeIGpUBty-00591-00173338-00173520 have not considered which could explain AWKeIGpUBty-00592-00173521-00173877 the same observations we make in reality AWKeIGpUBty-00593-00173878-00174117 this is a very complicated sort of AWKeIGpUBty-00594-00174118-00174396 epistemological problem and in fact was AWKeIGpUBty-00595-00174397-00174621 one of it was as I've reread the AWKeIGpUBty-00596-00174622-00174792 transcript from the militant of each AWKeIGpUBty-00597-00174793-00174984 case several times it was the heart of AWKeIGpUBty-00598-00174985-00175188 the misunderstanding between the AWKeIGpUBty-00599-00175189-00175401 prosecutors the judges and me that led AWKeIGpUBty-00600-00175402-00175578 to such a bad outcome in that one case AWKeIGpUBty-00601-00175579-00175794 the judges thought I was there to prove AWKeIGpUBty-00602-00175795-00176028 something what I was really there to do AWKeIGpUBty-00603-00176029-00176388 is disprove something statistics is AWKeIGpUBty-00604-00176389-00176598 excellent at showing that an explanation AWKeIGpUBty-00605-00176599-00176985 could not be true indeed it could not be AWKeIGpUBty-00606-00176986-00177267 the case that the killings in Yugoslavia AWKeIGpUBty-00607-00177268-00177579 were caused by NATO it could not be the AWKeIGpUBty-00608-00177580-00177873 case that the killings in Kosovo excuse AWKeIGpUBty-00609-00177874-00178110 me were caused by the KLA those AWKeIGpUBty-00610-00178111-00178422 explanations we can reject because we AWKeIGpUBty-00611-00178423-00178599 can show that the patterns of bombing in AWKeIGpUBty-00612-00178600-00178761 the pattern of KLA activity were AWKeIGpUBty-00613-00178762-00178980 completely inconsistent with the AWKeIGpUBty-00614-00178981-00179178 patterns of of homicides so it was AWKeIGpUBty-00615-00179179-00179511 impossible that those two actors caused AWKeIGpUBty-00616-00179512-00179727 the killing we did not prove that AWKeIGpUBty-00617-00179728-00179964 Yugoslavia skom it'ld those killings we AWKeIGpUBty-00618-00179965-00180119 could observe some very interesting AWKeIGpUBty-00619-00180120-00180360 coincidences so I hope you'll stick AWKeIGpUBty-00620-00180361-00180489 around for the afternoon and I will in AWKeIGpUBty-00621-00180490-00180678 fact make those observations but we AWKeIGpUBty-00622-00180679-00180793 can't prove AWKeIGpUBty-00623-00180794-00180975 and statistics is not really in the AWKeIGpUBty-00624-00180976-00181260 business of proving things so we're in AWKeIGpUBty-00625-00181261-00181464 the business of disproving things and I AWKeIGpUBty-00626-00181465-00181629 think that's also very useful in AWKeIGpUBty-00627-00181630-00181863 prosecutions and when we're at our best AWKeIGpUBty-00628-00181864-00182199 were able to get the that we're able to AWKeIGpUBty-00629-00182200-00182346 convince the prosecutors and the judges AWKeIGpUBty-00630-00182347-00182535 that hey this is a way of narrowing down AWKeIGpUBty-00631-00182536-00182862 what the debate can be years and years AWKeIGpUBty-00632-00182863-00183254 ago back in the 90s a guy who was then a AWKeIGpUBty-00633-00183255-00183510 scholar of transitional justice and has AWKeIGpUBty-00634-00183511-00183643 since become a Canadian politician AWKeIGpUBty-00635-00183644-00183888 Michael Ignatieff once wrote that the AWKeIGpUBty-00636-00183889-00184140 purpose of truth Commission's is not to AWKeIGpUBty-00637-00184141-00184395 establish the truth the purpose of truth AWKeIGpUBty-00638-00184396-00184604 Commission's is to narrow the range of AWKeIGpUBty-00639-00184605-00185037 permissible lies and I think that very AWKeIGpUBty-00640-00185038-00185304 often expert testimony in these trials AWKeIGpUBty-00641-00185305-00185607 is of the same kind we are there to AWKeIGpUBty-00642-00185608-00185868 narrow the range of permissible lies and AWKeIGpUBty-00643-00185869-00186198 this enables the prosecutors to get much AWKeIGpUBty-00644-00186199-00186453 closer to the truth we narrow the kinds AWKeIGpUBty-00645-00186454-00186732 of nonsense that the defense can throw AWKeIGpUBty-00646-00186733-00187146 out so I add that as a kind of complex a AWKeIGpUBty-00647-00187147-00187526 roundabout way to make that point but AWKeIGpUBty-00648-00187527-00187749 statistics should never be the only AWKeIGpUBty-00649-00187750-00187923 thing prosecutions are presenting and of AWKeIGpUBty-00650-00187924-00188115 course in none of these trials is it the AWKeIGpUBty-00651-00188116-00188379 only thing I I think that statistics in AWKeIGpUBty-00652-00188380-00188724 human rights work is a footnote it's not AWKeIGpUBty-00653-00188725-00188940 the headline it's not the lead paragraph AWKeIGpUBty-00654-00188941-00189147 it's a footnote but it's a really AWKeIGpUBty-00655-00189148-00189366 important footnote and it has to be AWKeIGpUBty-00656-00189367-00189423 right AWKeIGpUBty-00657-00189424-00189765 it's a footnote that sets a big picture AWKeIGpUBty-00658-00189766-00189948 that narrows the range of permissible AWKeIGpUBty-00659-00189949-00190338 lies that gets us close to the story as AWKeIGpUBty-00660-00190339-00190545 Nana said it it gave them a starting AWKeIGpUBty-00661-00190546-00190693 point that then they could investigate AWKeIGpUBty-00662-00190694-00190863 more deeply and show something like AWKeIGpUBty-00663-00190864-00191133 finding at one of the perpetrators war AWKeIGpUBty-00664-00191134-00191397 Diaries or saying hey we're looking for AWKeIGpUBty-00665-00191398-00191553 people who were expelled from Kosovo AWKeIGpUBty-00666-00191554-00191862 between the 10th and the and the 17th of AWKeIGpUBty-00667-00191863-00192099 April that was a huge wave let's go look AWKeIGpUBty-00668-00192100-00192270 for those people because there weren't AWKeIGpUBty-00669-00192271-00192489 so many people before the 7th in fact AWKeIGpUBty-00670-00192490-00192627 from the 4th to the 7th no one left AWKeIGpUBty-00671-00192628-00193002 Kosovo 4th of 7th of April 1999 so I AWKeIGpUBty-00672-00193003-00193251 hope that's somewhat illuminating it's AWKeIGpUBty-00673-00193252-00193476 very interesting that you say statistics AWKeIGpUBty-00674-00193477-00193788 is a circumstantial somewhat negative it AWKeIGpUBty-00675-00193789-00193971 provides a negative explanation for AWKeIGpUBty-00676-00193972-00194135 receipt AWKeIGpUBty-00677-00194136-00194348 proving things that some of the claims AWKeIGpUBty-00678-00194349-00194633 made by the defense or other human AWKeIGpUBty-00679-00194634-00194912 rights abusers nevertheless AWKeIGpUBty-00680-00194913-00195191 I would say if I see as I've seen from AWKeIGpUBty-00681-00195192-00195536 the movie clip the defense will try to AWKeIGpUBty-00682-00195537-00195899 argue the contrary at arguments at court AWKeIGpUBty-00683-00195900-00196313 and outside and how did you did you how AWKeIGpUBty-00684-00196314-00196469 did you prepare yourself for the AWKeIGpUBty-00685-00196470-00196670 cross-examination from the l'osservatore AWKeIGpUBty-00686-00196671-00197056 militant of each or other defendants AWKeIGpUBty-00687-00197057-00197678 well in Milosevic because I was very AWKeIGpUBty-00688-00197679-00197888 well prepped by the prosecution team I AWKeIGpUBty-00689-00197889-00198128 had a good sense of the kinds of things AWKeIGpUBty-00690-00198129-00198371 that were likely to be said and I AWKeIGpUBty-00691-00198372-00198586 thought I was very very well prepared AWKeIGpUBty-00692-00198587-00199022 and the next trial I was in the militant AWKeIGpUBty-00693-00199023-00199178 in which case I was much less well AWKeIGpUBty-00694-00199179-00199415 prepared I was not prepared for people AWKeIGpUBty-00695-00199416-00199627 saying things that were scientifically AWKeIGpUBty-00696-00199628-00199943 meaningless or ridiculous or nonsensical AWKeIGpUBty-00697-00199944-00200165 it had not occurred to me that we were AWKeIGpUBty-00698-00200166-00200315 going to leave the bounds of logic and AWKeIGpUBty-00699-00200316-00200456 say things that were nonsense and that AWKeIGpUBty-00700-00200457-00200665 the lawyers would say these things with AWKeIGpUBty-00701-00200666-00200960 earnest reasonable voices and straight AWKeIGpUBty-00702-00200961-00201236 faces and they were mathematically AWKeIGpUBty-00703-00201237-00201536 meaningless absolutely absurd and I was AWKeIGpUBty-00704-00201537-00201728 unable during the course of that to AWKeIGpUBty-00705-00201729-00201962 explain how absurd and meaningless the AWKeIGpUBty-00706-00201963-00202124 things that were said were and then the AWKeIGpUBty-00707-00202125-00202262 defense brought a defense expert who AWKeIGpUBty-00708-00202263-00202502 said things that were completely and AWKeIGpUBty-00709-00202503-00202889 meaninglessly absurd how do you respond AWKeIGpUBty-00710-00202890-00203140 to that I'm not actually even to this AWKeIGpUBty-00711-00203141-00203363 day what 11 10 11 years later I'm not AWKeIGpUBty-00712-00203364-00203570 entirely sure how to respond to it but I AWKeIGpUBty-00713-00203571-00203732 think that man is right you have to AWKeIGpUBty-00714-00203733-00203858 coordinate with the prosecutor you need AWKeIGpUBty-00715-00203859-00203993 to enable the prosecutor to AWKeIGpUBty-00716-00203994-00204296 cross-examine that kind of nonsense more AWKeIGpUBty-00717-00204297-00204482 effectively than we did and so if I've AWKeIGpUBty-00718-00204483-00204683 learned something it's that I have to AWKeIGpUBty-00719-00204684-00204871 work more closely with the prosecutor AWKeIGpUBty-00720-00204873-00205121 when I can it's not always possible as I AWKeIGpUBty-00721-00205121-00205312 said in in the in the Guatemalan context AWKeIGpUBty-00722-00205313-00205529 and in the extraordinary freakin AWKeIGpUBty-00723-00205530-00205638 chambers it wasn't really available AWKeIGpUBty-00724-00205639-00205877 that's not really how those courts work AWKeIGpUBty-00725-00205878-00206313 so we got lucky so they know when when AWKeIGpUBty-00726-00206314-00206579 when tapped I was taking stan and lost AWKeIGpUBty-00727-00206580-00206783 which basically told him like it's a AWKeIGpUBty-00728-00206784-00207002 it's a fabricated figure did you expect AWKeIGpUBty-00729-00207003-00207169 that or I mean did you prepare for that AWKeIGpUBty-00730-00207171-00207346 kind of situation as AWKeIGpUBty-00731-00207348-00207851 with prosecution oh well in such cases AWKeIGpUBty-00732-00207852-00208351 when any accused representing himself AWKeIGpUBty-00733-00208352-00208938 goes beyond legal narrative and language AWKeIGpUBty-00734-00208939-00209231 prosecution hardly needed to intervene AWKeIGpUBty-00735-00209232-00209456 because it was obvious the judges would AWKeIGpUBty-00736-00209457-00209710 make up their mind but different thing AWKeIGpUBty-00737-00209711-00210034 is when a defendant is represented by AWKeIGpUBty-00738-00210035-00210389 professional lawyers and if you are AWKeIGpUBty-00739-00210390-00210773 prosecutor and you have we call it AWKeIGpUBty-00740-00210773-00211091 testimony in chief if we call an expert AWKeIGpUBty-00741-00211092-00211273 is prosecution called an expert AWKeIGpUBty-00742-00211275-00211573 testimony in chief was so important AWKeIGpUBty-00743-00211575-00211889 because it lays ground for important AWKeIGpUBty-00744-00211890-00212117 factual determinations so you don't AWKeIGpUBty-00745-00212117-00212504 leave the other side ruin your witness AWKeIGpUBty-00746-00212505-00212708 or credibility of the evidence so it AWKeIGpUBty-00747-00212709-00213125 would not be expert witness like Patrick AWKeIGpUBty-00748-00213126-00213455 and any other should be so confident AWKeIGpUBty-00749-00213456-00213848 sitting in in his chair or her chair AWKeIGpUBty-00750-00213848-00214079 knowing that prosecution would object AWKeIGpUBty-00751-00214080-00214379 and lead the evidence back into the AWKeIGpUBty-00752-00214380-00214769 court and so that the judges might have AWKeIGpUBty-00753-00214769-00214991 easier way to make determination so we AWKeIGpUBty-00754-00214992-00215162 were never too concerned about me AWKeIGpUBty-00755-00215163-00215426 lawsuit going too far because it was AWKeIGpUBty-00756-00215427-00215794 obvious what is what was he doing and I AWKeIGpUBty-00757-00215796-00216062 remember Sir Geoffrey always telling us AWKeIGpUBty-00758-00216063-00216539 don't fret if I sit and do not object AWKeIGpUBty-00759-00216540-00216806 too much because if I object too much it AWKeIGpUBty-00760-00216807-00217181 would be like go leus against David let AWKeIGpUBty-00761-00217182-00217553 him go and make all these nonsensical AWKeIGpUBty-00762-00217554-00217808 observation himself I would sit in my AWKeIGpUBty-00763-00217809-00217844 chair AWKeIGpUBty-00764-00217844-00218134 so he would he would warn us because it AWKeIGpUBty-00765-00218135-00218402 was definitely strategy but it wouldn't AWKeIGpUBty-00766-00218403-00218719 be his strategy if the accused would be AWKeIGpUBty-00767-00218721-00218927 represented or many accusers in the AWKeIGpUBty-00768-00218928-00219192 Latino each case by different lawyers AWKeIGpUBty-00769-00219194-00219683 then prosecution would try to to go back AWKeIGpUBty-00770-00219684-00219869 to the very strict rules what is AWKeIGpUBty-00771-00219869-00220130 permissible what is not and not protect AWKeIGpUBty-00772-00220131-00220376 a witness but protect the integrity of AWKeIGpUBty-00773-00220377-00220591 the evidence because test AWKeIGpUBty-00774-00220592-00220888 monie in chief is very important because AWKeIGpUBty-00775-00220889-00221173 it shows what the strategy the case of AWKeIGpUBty-00776-00221173-00221490 prosecution is what factual basis AWKeIGpUBty-00777-00221491-00221812 prosecution is right relying upon but to AWKeIGpUBty-00778-00221813-00222073 go back to Patrick's mixed feelings AWKeIGpUBty-00779-00222073-00222796 about his expertise at two different AWKeIGpUBty-00780-00222796-00223126 courses ICTY if I may I would make a AWKeIGpUBty-00781-00223127-00223406 very general observation AWKeIGpUBty-00782-00223407-00223663 starting with again yet another AWKeIGpUBty-00783-00223664-00224013 disclaimer that I'm a huge admirer of AWKeIGpUBty-00784-00224014-00224439 demographers who worked at the ICTY AWKeIGpUBty-00785-00224440-00224781 certainly an expert witnesses and our AWKeIGpUBty-00786-00224782-00225105 permanent prosecution team consisting of AWKeIGpUBty-00787-00225106-00225589 a formidable lady evitable because what AWKeIGpUBty-00788-00225590-00225828 happened with all of them and I worked AWKeIGpUBty-00789-00225829-00226080 very closely to them to ever and I will AWKeIGpUBty-00790-00226081-00226253 show you in my presentation some of AWKeIGpUBty-00791-00226254-00226494 immensely valuable discoveries about AWKeIGpUBty-00792-00226496-00226955 conflict just done by by rigorous AWKeIGpUBty-00793-00226956-00227379 scrutiny of available data on demography AWKeIGpUBty-00794-00227380-00228091 is that the MOG refers experts moved the AWKeIGpUBty-00795-00228092-00228352 statistics and demography and human AWKeIGpUBty-00796-00228353-00228573 losses during the armed conflict to a AWKeIGpUBty-00797-00228575-00228913 completely new dimension and as ever AWKeIGpUBty-00798-00228914-00229246 Tabo would inform me and we talked a lot AWKeIGpUBty-00799-00229246-00229588 about it they now understand that there AWKeIGpUBty-00800-00229589-00229971 is no understanding without AWKeIGpUBty-00801-00229971-00230382 contextualization and at the beginning I AWKeIGpUBty-00802-00230383-00230679 think Patrick but certainly not ever AWKeIGpUBty-00803-00230680-00231081 didn't even dare to put any of their AWKeIGpUBty-00804-00231082-00231288 data's in a political and historical AWKeIGpUBty-00805-00231289-00231712 context at certain point you all AWKeIGpUBty-00806-00231713-00232225 realized that it's necessary and this is AWKeIGpUBty-00807-00232226-00232537 a huge contribution which might not be AWKeIGpUBty-00808-00232538-00232785 readily understood and available to AWKeIGpUBty-00809-00232786-00233128 people who are not intimately part of AWKeIGpUBty-00810-00233129-00233703 the of the developments how do you AWKeIGpUBty-00811-00233704-00233975 present the best figures AWKeIGpUBty-00812-00233976-00234242 not to the judges to the victims and AWKeIGpUBty-00813-00234242-00234482 basically to world citizens because now AWKeIGpUBty-00814-00234483-00234737 we all care what's happening with mass AWKeIGpUBty-00815-00234738-00235139 atrocities and what statistics brought AWKeIGpUBty-00816-00235140-00235607 in the through legal process I don't AWKeIGpUBty-00817-00235608-00235798 think the statistics would have been AWKeIGpUBty-00818-00235800-00236066 developed in such a pace if it were not AWKeIGpUBty-00819-00236067-00236242 for international criminal trials AWKeIGpUBty-00820-00236244-00236542 because they were suddenly asked we had AWKeIGpUBty-00821-00236544-00236828 three or four statisticians demographers AWKeIGpUBty-00822-00236829-00237085 working and the prosecution for now 25 AWKeIGpUBty-00823-00237086-00237409 years it's a huge human capital that now AWKeIGpUBty-00824-00237410-00237671 needs to be made available to the world AWKeIGpUBty-00825-00237671-00237962 to understand what it is and and I think AWKeIGpUBty-00826-00237963-00238280 it puts development of statistics in a AWKeIGpUBty-00827-00238281-00238631 at a higher and good-good level to be AWKeIGpUBty-00828-00238632-00238909 and to be shared with non mathematicians AWKeIGpUBty-00829-00238910-00239258 as well so that that was I think one of AWKeIGpUBty-00830-00239259-00239785 the huge impacts and results of of AWKeIGpUBty-00831-00239786-00240230 criminal procedures we had and I just AWKeIGpUBty-00832-00240231-00240467 mentioned about the world citizens and AWKeIGpUBty-00833-00240467-00240650 how they review but the trial as well AWKeIGpUBty-00834-00240651-00241058 and I kind of pivot to we've been AWKeIGpUBty-00835-00241059-00241250 talking so so far about the things that AWKeIGpUBty-00836-00241251-00241526 were happening inside the court but I AWKeIGpUBty-00837-00241527-00241748 guess you also had in mind the court of AWKeIGpUBty-00838-00241748-00242019 public opinion outside the courtroom and AWKeIGpUBty-00839-00242021-00242405 I think I think Patrick you said that AWKeIGpUBty-00840-00242406-00242546 the end of the clip very end of the clip AWKeIGpUBty-00841-00242546-00242729 that the judges and the audience they're AWKeIGpUBty-00842-00242730-00242948 the ones who that you care about and you AWKeIGpUBty-00843-00242948-00243112 specially mentioned the audience and AWKeIGpUBty-00844-00243113-00243421 we've just Jeffrey nice also referred to AWKeIGpUBty-00845-00243423-00243685 the kind of evidence that will stand the AWKeIGpUBty-00846-00243686-00244058 test of time which kind of something AWKeIGpUBty-00847-00244059-00244271 that Judge Quan referred to this morning AWKeIGpUBty-00848-00244271-00244580 signing Robert Jackson from Nuremberg so AWKeIGpUBty-00849-00244581-00244727 when you you know when you are AWKeIGpUBty-00850-00244728-00245144 presenting or preparing the evidence how AWKeIGpUBty-00851-00245144-00245492 did I'm sure you had the public opinion AWKeIGpUBty-00852-00245492-00245723 in mind as well so how did that figure AWKeIGpUBty-00853-00245723-00246069 into your preparation and presentation AWKeIGpUBty-00854-00246071-00246373 you know I can go first AWKeIGpUBty-00855-00246373-00246992 once you work at such a complex and AWKeIGpUBty-00856-00246994-00247159 high-profile case the Slobodan AWKeIGpUBty-00857-00247160-00247510 Milosevic's you don't have time to think AWKeIGpUBty-00858-00247511-00247729 even about judges let alone our audience AWKeIGpUBty-00859-00247730-00247888 because you are always working on AWKeIGpUBty-00860-00247889-00248394 yesterday's deadlines so that does not AWKeIGpUBty-00861-00248396-00248644 concern you at this point very much but AWKeIGpUBty-00862-00248644-00248992 what was so interesting when the trial AWKeIGpUBty-00863-00248992-00249240 finished by a premature death of the AWKeIGpUBty-00864-00249241-00249742 defendant I suddenly had more time to AWKeIGpUBty-00865-00249742-00250108 look what's going on because when you AWKeIGpUBty-00866-00250109-00250294 work many things become so obvious to AWKeIGpUBty-00867-00250294-00250461 you you think that whole world AWKeIGpUBty-00868-00250462-00250663 understands them and the whole world AWKeIGpUBty-00869-00250664-00251002 follows it and then I understood first AWKeIGpUBty-00870-00251003-00251371 of all that the international criminal AWKeIGpUBty-00871-00251371-00251805 justice system criminal justice system AWKeIGpUBty-00872-00251806-00252307 was so readily accepted by liberal world AWKeIGpUBty-00873-00252308-00252661 citizens not just the victim communities AWKeIGpUBty-00874-00252662-00253237 immediately but they had huge very AWKeIGpUBty-00875-00253238-00253459 unrealistic expectations I don't know AWKeIGpUBty-00876-00253460-00253731 where these expectations came from but AWKeIGpUBty-00877-00253732-00254023 official ICTY sites certainly didn't AWKeIGpUBty-00878-00254023-00254290 help to temper them because in their AWKeIGpUBty-00879-00254291-00254503 first days and years they announced the AWKeIGpUBty-00880-00254504-00255058 end of impunity and of mass atrocities AWKeIGpUBty-00881-00255059-00255307 and so forth etcetera that was it go AWKeIGpUBty-00882-00255308-00255616 yeah but then but then they changed it AWKeIGpUBty-00883-00255617-00255921 obviously because if you read any AWKeIGpUBty-00884-00255921-00256132 Justice Department and national AWKeIGpUBty-00885-00256133-00256423 jurisdiction what their mandate is they AWKeIGpUBty-00886-00256423-00256582 would never say we are going to AWKeIGpUBty-00887-00256583-00256855 extinguish crimes ever forever the the AWKeIGpUBty-00888-00256856-00257104 only expectations we can have is to AWKeIGpUBty-00889-00257105-00257317 control crimes because political AWKeIGpUBty-00890-00257317-00257791 violence is with us since people form AWKeIGpUBty-00891-00257792-00258187 some sort of political entities so we AWKeIGpUBty-00892-00258188-00258481 won't extinguish it so whatever we do we AWKeIGpUBty-00893-00258482-00258790 need to find ways to control it but this AWKeIGpUBty-00894-00258791-00259201 language this rhetoric actually made AWKeIGpUBty-00895-00259202-00259462 every now expect miracles and then very AWKeIGpUBty-00896-00259463-00259690 quickly so this was the first AWKeIGpUBty-00897-00259691-00260077 that I realized that audience expects AWKeIGpUBty-00898-00260078-00260319 too much second thing that I noticed AWKeIGpUBty-00899-00260321-00260566 when I started reading articles and AWKeIGpUBty-00900-00260567-00261064 reactions of people that that there is AWKeIGpUBty-00901-00261065-00261733 such a legal illiteracy among the AWKeIGpUBty-00902-00261734-00261996 general audience and certainly victims AWKeIGpUBty-00903-00261998-00262542 audience for example if you would tell AWKeIGpUBty-00904-00262543-00262777 associations of victims like mothers of AWKeIGpUBty-00905-00262778-00262969 three brunettes and former prisoners of AWKeIGpUBty-00906-00262970-00263371 war in Bosnia that of course some of the AWKeIGpUBty-00907-00263372-00263557 people were acquitted and should be AWKeIGpUBty-00908-00263558-00263886 acquitted because of procedural issues AWKeIGpUBty-00909-00263887-00264199 and breaches oh I don't know what they AWKeIGpUBty-00910-00264200-00264412 would never accept it they said we don't AWKeIGpUBty-00911-00264413-00264637 care the law can be broken the AWKeIGpUBty-00912-00264638-00264853 regulations can be broken he or she is AWKeIGpUBty-00913-00264854-00265192 guilty we want him on her to hang so AWKeIGpUBty-00914-00265193-00265497 there was some sort of expectation of AWKeIGpUBty-00915-00265498-00265953 expediency that would bring result and AWKeIGpUBty-00916-00265954-00266458 not respect over highest norms of a AWKeIGpUBty-00917-00266459-00266968 legal system so and then thirdly what AWKeIGpUBty-00918-00266969-00267316 was interesting for me is that the AWKeIGpUBty-00919-00267317-00267928 longer I followed the works of ICTY you AWKeIGpUBty-00920-00267929-00268216 do understand that slow justice might AWKeIGpUBty-00921-00268217-00268588 not be justice at all because after 25 AWKeIGpUBty-00922-00268589-00268837 years you have so many people who AWKeIGpUBty-00923-00268838-00269152 already died waiting for interesting AWKeIGpUBty-00924-00269153-00269389 verdicts secondly you have verdicts that AWKeIGpUBty-00925-00269390-00269767 were utterly unsatisfactory for the AWKeIGpUBty-00926-00269768-00270190 audience who is there so coming back to AWKeIGpUBty-00927-00270191-00270508 if we would be able to start all over AWKeIGpUBty-00928-00270509-00270961 again I think from my experience the AWKeIGpUBty-00929-00270962-00271339 good remedy would be to make outreach AWKeIGpUBty-00930-00271340-00271540 program of the ICTY AWKeIGpUBty-00931-00271541-00271912 as big is the numbers and endeavours as AWKeIGpUBty-00932-00271913-00272218 the prosecution it was almost like each AWKeIGpUBty-00933-00272219-00272476 prosecutor should be shadowed by AWKeIGpUBty-00934-00272477-00272848 outreach officer to explain what has AWKeIGpUBty-00935-00272849-00272994 been done AWKeIGpUBty-00936-00272995-00273216 that the communication and interaction AWKeIGpUBty-00937-00273217-00273600 between defense and prosecution and trap AWKeIGpUBty-00938-00273601-00274092 and judges should be displayed in a much AWKeIGpUBty-00939-00274093-00274287 more transparent way towards the AWKeIGpUBty-00940-00274288-00274559 audience when I work for the prosecution AWKeIGpUBty-00941-00274560-00274859 we were so scared off to talk to defense AWKeIGpUBty-00942-00274860-00275121 people of judges that I hardly dare to AWKeIGpUBty-00943-00275122-00275280 greet them because I thought I was AWKeIGpUBty-00944-00275281-00275538 breaking some sacred law it was nonsense AWKeIGpUBty-00945-00275539-00275754 you can be very professional AWKeIGpUBty-00946-00275755-00276066 talking to defense defense lawyer AWKeIGpUBty-00947-00276067-00276281 without breaching any Anila but it was AWKeIGpUBty-00948-00276282-00276860 some sort of a [__] fear of anxiety AWKeIGpUBty-00949-00276861-00277224 that we should be so confidential that AWKeIGpUBty-00950-00277225-00277593 it actually hurt the the institution in AWKeIGpUBty-00951-00277594-00277749 a way there could be possible room for AWKeIGpUBty-00952-00277750-00278009 conflict of interest as well so I don't AWKeIGpUBty-00953-00278010-00278247 know yeah but these these happen anyway AWKeIGpUBty-00954-00278248-00278415 behind the closed doors if I have a AWKeIGpUBty-00955-00278416-00278604 dinner with a defense lawyer and AWKeIGpUBty-00956-00278605-00278802 everyone can see me AWKeIGpUBty-00957-00278803-00279264 I prefer that then you know lack of AWKeIGpUBty-00958-00279265-00279462 transparency and then bad things AWKeIGpUBty-00959-00279463-00279795 happening anyway so transparency is a AWKeIGpUBty-00960-00279796-00280119 huge huge achievement of of our AWKeIGpUBty-00961-00280120-00280425 democracy and it should not be shortcut AWKeIGpUBty-00962-00280426-00281013 for some cosmetic or artificial purposes AWKeIGpUBty-00963-00281014-00281448 of of objectivity or impartiality AWKeIGpUBty-00964-00281449-00281754 because you certainly can work on AWKeIGpUBty-00965-00281755-00281952 outreach and you can work on the route AWKeIGpUBty-00966-00281953-00282201 outreach only when you include all the AWKeIGpUBty-00967-00282202-00282378 parties outreach shouldn't come just AWKeIGpUBty-00968-00282379-00282659 from the persecution outreach shouldn't AWKeIGpUBty-00969-00282660-00282860 come just from the judges it should be a AWKeIGpUBty-00970-00282861-00283098 joint effort to understand what is AWKeIGpUBty-00971-00283099-00283299 actually happening in such institutions AWKeIGpUBty-00972-00283300-00283582 so the outreach would be my my first AWKeIGpUBty-00973-00283583-00284040 attempt to improve the system but also AWKeIGpUBty-00974-00284041-00284226 when you are actually presenting AWKeIGpUBty-00975-00284227-00284601 evidence in the courtroom or the AWKeIGpUBty-00976-00284602-00284754 instances where you had not just that AWKeIGpUBty-00977-00284755-00285035 your Jeffrey and I said not just the AWKeIGpUBty-00978-00285036-00285291 judges but also the larger audience in AWKeIGpUBty-00979-00285292-00285648 mind as well I can think of like always AWKeIGpUBty-00980-00285649-00285852 have some video footage that was played AWKeIGpUBty-00981-00285853-00285983 during the AWKeIGpUBty-00982-00285984-00286109 one of the classic one of the AWKeIGpUBty-00983-00286110-00286484 cross-examination that you are talking AWKeIGpUBty-00984-00286485-00286673 about the scorpion video we are we are AWKeIGpUBty-00985-00286674-00286895 going to talk it during my presentation AWKeIGpUBty-00986-00286896-00287207 in greater detail but this is a AWKeIGpUBty-00987-00287208-00287516 fascinating story and the story was AWKeIGpUBty-00988-00287517-00287774 certainly not done to influence outside AWKeIGpUBty-00989-00287775-00288143 world politicians it was done for for AWKeIGpUBty-00990-00288144-00288782 many internal reasons and I don't know AWKeIGpUBty-00991-00288783-00288941 whether it's good moment to tell you the AWKeIGpUBty-00992-00288942-00289622 whole story but Sir Geoffrey nice showed AWKeIGpUBty-00993-00289623-00289967 that video without even informing the AWKeIGpUBty-00994-00289968-00290429 chief prosecutor at the time and and the AWKeIGpUBty-00995-00290430-00290588 only person who used it for AWKeIGpUBty-00996-00290589-00290777 self-promotion was chief prosecutor AWKeIGpUBty-00997-00290778-00290963 colour del Ponte but she even didn't AWKeIGpUBty-00998-00290964-00291215 know what the team was doing and the AWKeIGpUBty-00999-00291216-00291431 reason why Sir Geoffrey used it is AWKeIGpUBty-01000-00291432-00292049 following Milosevic defense case started AWKeIGpUBty-01001-00292050-00292603 at the end of August 2004 14 4 3 and at AWKeIGpUBty-01002-00292604-00293180 13 of September we registered this video AWKeIGpUBty-01003-00293181-00293504 in our evidences how we registered it so AWKeIGpUBty-01004-00293505-00293792 we got it after prosecution parts of the AWKeIGpUBty-01005-00293793-00294143 case so we couldn't present it in in AWKeIGpUBty-01006-00294144-00294533 chief through witness prosecution AWKeIGpUBty-01007-00294534-00294767 witness so if you do that you are in AWKeIGpUBty-01008-00294768-00294971 trouble as prosecution because such an AWKeIGpUBty-01009-00294972-00295316 important evidence cannot be used just AWKeIGpUBty-01010-00295317-00295552 like that in a defense part of the case AWKeIGpUBty-01011-00295553-00295943 why because you always have to show AWKeIGpUBty-01012-00295944-00296302 authenticity of of the evidence AWKeIGpUBty-01013-00296303-00296552 integrity of the source where you got it AWKeIGpUBty-01014-00296553-00296897 or originator all sort of things and in AWKeIGpUBty-01015-00296898-00297098 cross-examination if you use it you you AWKeIGpUBty-01016-00297099-00297320 don't have time to establish the basis AWKeIGpUBty-01017-00297321-00297626 wait so we knew the judges would never AWKeIGpUBty-01018-00297627-00298160 accept it as evidence and yet because we AWKeIGpUBty-01019-00298161-00298475 got it in such a late stage Sir Geoffrey AWKeIGpUBty-01020-00298476-00298915 thought and knew if he doesn't show it AWKeIGpUBty-01021-00298916-00299142 it will AWKeIGpUBty-01022-00299143-00299507 Stane the integrity of the trial because AWKeIGpUBty-01023-00299508-00299855 it was at the ICTY and the story how we AWKeIGpUBty-01024-00299856-00300242 got it is a fascinating story because AWKeIGpUBty-01025-00300243-00300666 one of our investigators got a telephone AWKeIGpUBty-01026-00300667-00301151 call from a former witness a lawyer AWKeIGpUBty-01027-00301152-00301484 Bosnian Muslim lawyer from Tuzla in AWKeIGpUBty-01028-00301485-00301739 bosnia-herzegovina and he said I have a AWKeIGpUBty-01029-00301740-00302214 client who wants to sell you a piece of AWKeIGpUBty-01030-00302215-00302606 evidence and icty is not allowed to buy AWKeIGpUBty-01031-00302607-00303069 evidence so deal the investigator goes AWKeIGpUBty-01032-00303070-00303342 back and he says well we come by AWKeIGpUBty-01033-00303343-00303674 anything before we see it so the lawyer AWKeIGpUBty-01034-00303675-00304245 gives him the tape and he sees what's in AWKeIGpUBty-01035-00304246-00304578 it and he goes like oh my god what is AWKeIGpUBty-01036-00304579-00304947 this so he makes a copy gives it back to AWKeIGpUBty-01037-00304948-00305115 the lawyer said no we are not interested AWKeIGpUBty-01038-00305116-00305603 so we didn't fight but we have it in AWKeIGpUBty-01039-00305604-00306083 database and this immensely important AWKeIGpUBty-01040-00306084-00306458 general obras the language a mobile AWKeIGpUBty-01041-00306459-00306693 general Ministry of Internal Affairs of AWKeIGpUBty-01042-00306694-00307224 Serbia who has made his Coll career in AWKeIGpUBty-01043-00307225-00307572 Kosovo and during the Kosovo war he is AWKeIGpUBty-01044-00307573-00308129 very high up in the hierarchy being in AWKeIGpUBty-01045-00308130-00308945 charge of different units of a unit for AWKeIGpUBty-01046-00308946-00309481 anti-terrorist actions and he brings AWKeIGpUBty-01047-00309482-00310143 about 300 files as defence evidence AWKeIGpUBty-01048-00310144-00310603 showing all sorts of crimes committed by AWKeIGpUBty-01049-00310604-00310872 so-called klas they call it so-called AWKeIGpUBty-01050-00310873-00311187 Kosovo Liberation Army and sir Jeffrey AWKeIGpUBty-01051-00311188-00311514 comes to us and he says he and another AWKeIGpUBty-01052-00311515-00311916 general border Delich could actually AWKeIGpUBty-01053-00311917-00312359 undermine our Kosovo case so we need AWKeIGpUBty-01054-00312360-00312522 everything posts AWKeIGpUBty-01055-00312523-00312860 to attack their credibility and as a AWKeIGpUBty-01056-00312861-00313244 prosecution we can use so many documents AWKeIGpUBty-01057-00313245-00313689 so many things we didn't show in AWKeIGpUBty-01058-00313690-00313998 prosecution case for undermining AWKeIGpUBty-01059-00313999-00314325 credibility so this was our path to show AWKeIGpUBty-01060-00314326-00314592 it so first of all Sir Geoffrey thought AWKeIGpUBty-01061-00314593-00315201 we cannot possibly face the world after AWKeIGpUBty-01062-00315202-00315498 the end of the trial when it appeared AWKeIGpUBty-01063-00315499-00315873 that this video was already in our AWKeIGpUBty-01064-00315874-00316230 database without showing it secondly yes AWKeIGpUBty-01065-00316231-00316556 we can use it completely to shake up AWKeIGpUBty-01066-00316557-00316941 Obrist ivanovitch because he can AWKeIGpUBty-01067-00316942-00317397 undermine kosovo part of the case so we AWKeIGpUBty-01068-00317398-00317459 did it AWKeIGpUBty-01069-00317460-00317766 but what happened later outside of a AWKeIGpUBty-01070-00317767-00318182 culture must be beyond our power because AWKeIGpUBty-01071-00318183-00318431 chief prosecutor that year Carla del AWKeIGpUBty-01072-00318432-00318690 Ponte was nominated with another with AWKeIGpUBty-01073-00318691-00318995 Natasha condish as a Nobel Prize AWKeIGpUBty-01074-00318996-00319347 candidates for peace while she saw it AWKeIGpUBty-01075-00319348-00319527 for the first time from her office AWKeIGpUBty-01076-00319528-00319889 watching it on the on the TV screen but AWKeIGpUBty-01077-00319890-00320220 for whatever we of course it never AWKeIGpUBty-01078-00320221-00320546 became evidence in Malaysia huge case AWKeIGpUBty-01079-00320547-00320906 because we judges rightly said that they AWKeIGpUBty-01080-00320907-00321167 would be needed to establish foundation AWKeIGpUBty-01081-00321168-00321506 but what was so important that that AWKeIGpUBty-01082-00321507-00321878 single video triggered the most AWKeIGpUBty-01083-00321879-00322316 important post-conflict debate about AWKeIGpUBty-01084-00322317-00322548 responsibility in Serbia for the crimes AWKeIGpUBty-01085-00322549-00322971 in Bosnia Herzegovina so in a way I call AWKeIGpUBty-01086-00322972-00323346 it transformative value of trial AWKeIGpUBty-01087-00323347-00323582 evidence that sometimes these sort of AWKeIGpUBty-01088-00323583-00323930 trials are important just because they AWKeIGpUBty-01089-00323931-00324638 made for general public known the the AWKeIGpUBty-01090-00324639-00325053 details who and how committed the crimes AWKeIGpUBty-01091-00325054-00325258 and I think that was absolutely AWKeIGpUBty-01092-00325259-00325583 immensely important value of this piece AWKeIGpUBty-01093-00325584-00325680 of evidence AWKeIGpUBty-01094-00325681-00325854 thank you for the behind-the-scenes AWKeIGpUBty-01095-00325855-00325986 story as well AWKeIGpUBty-01096-00325987-00326298 Oh for the audience the Skorpion video AWKeIGpUBty-01097-00326299-00326478 that we mentioned it's it's actually AWKeIGpUBty-01098-00326479-00326817 about a two-hour footage of basically AWKeIGpUBty-01099-00326818-00327087 served militia forces massacring people AWKeIGpUBty-01100-00327088-00327456 in need server in each that work that AWKeIGpUBty-01101-00327457-00327672 was initially played in the at the court AWKeIGpUBty-01102-00327673-00327945 and then was a plate but it was aired in AWKeIGpUBty-01103-00327946-00328287 the Serbian TV networks which which AWKeIGpUBty-01104-00328288-00328485 caused this national debate and Serbia AWKeIGpUBty-01105-00328486-00328674 about its responsibility during the AWKeIGpUBty-01106-00328675-00329187 conflict so Patrick do you also have did AWKeIGpUBty-01107-00329188-00329430 you also it was the public perception a AWKeIGpUBty-01108-00329431-00329651 big factor in your preparation or AWKeIGpUBty-01109-00329652-00329844 presentation of your head of evidence as AWKeIGpUBty-01110-00329845-00330036 well you have you had experience in the AWKeIGpUBty-01111-00330037-00330228 truth commissions and some of those fall AWKeIGpUBty-01112-00330229-00330552 so it's I would like to talk to that but AWKeIGpUBty-01113-00330553-00330798 I wonder is that my clothes or are we AWKeIGpUBty-01114-00330799-00331182 about to end or we have a bit more okay AWKeIGpUBty-01115-00331183-00331290 yes then I would like to ask if you AWKeIGpUBty-01116-00331291-00331458 could punt to her and I'll excuse myself AWKeIGpUBty-01117-00331459-00331575 for just a second AWKeIGpUBty-01118-00331576-00332526 oh sure okay all right sure AWKeIGpUBty-01119-00332527-00332688 yeah let's go to the move on to next AWKeIGpUBty-01120-00332689-00332883 question so we've talked about the AWKeIGpUBty-01121-00332884-00333237 public perception but we also have a lot AWKeIGpUBty-01122-00333238-00333483 of a lot of a lot of civil society AWKeIGpUBty-01123-00333484-00333882 organizations people from this is from AWKeIGpUBty-01124-00333883-00334236 NGOs seated here and I understand that AWKeIGpUBty-01125-00334237-00334491 they also have the NGOs or civil society AWKeIGpUBty-01126-00334492-00334791 has some role to play in the collection AWKeIGpUBty-01127-00334792-00335123 or preparation of evidence as well and AWKeIGpUBty-01128-00335124-00335391 what what would be like things to AWKeIGpUBty-01129-00335392-00335793 consider when the NGOs I have this come AWKeIGpUBty-01130-00335794-00336006 across this kind of evidence that might AWKeIGpUBty-01131-00336007-00336327 play crucial later on or maybe perhaps AWKeIGpUBty-01132-00336328-00336516 something things that they should not do AWKeIGpUBty-01133-00336517-00337041 if they come across such evidence AWKeIGpUBty-01134-00337042-00337639 ngo's played very important role and for AWKeIGpUBty-01135-00337640-00337789 the establishment of the International AWKeIGpUBty-01136-00337790-00338077 Criminal Tribunal for former Yugoslavia AWKeIGpUBty-01137-00338078-00338551 as all other legal institutions later on AWKeIGpUBty-01138-00338552-00339244 but as for collection of evidence and AWKeIGpUBty-01139-00339245-00339732 for Kosovo and for Bosnia the reports by AWKeIGpUBty-01140-00339733-00340320 Human Rights Watch were used extensively AWKeIGpUBty-01141-00340321-00340975 and why and how these people were AWKeIGpUBty-01142-00340976-00341329 already working on investigation and AWKeIGpUBty-01143-00341330-00341857 recording of the crimes on the ground AWKeIGpUBty-01144-00341858-00342265 before tribunal started so we are AWKeIGpUBty-01145-00342266-00342693 talking about contemporaneously recorded AWKeIGpUBty-01146-00342694-00343486 crimes they did extensive interviews AWKeIGpUBty-01147-00343487-00343804 with eyewitnesses victims even AWKeIGpUBty-01148-00343805-00344419 perpetrators which were safely stored AWKeIGpUBty-01149-00344420-00344782 and some of them like fred abraham's AWKeIGpUBty-01150-00344783-00345058 from Human Rights Watch was very AWKeIGpUBty-01151-00345059-00345420 important fact witness for the crimes AWKeIGpUBty-01152-00345421-00345913 happening in Kosovo in 98 and 99 but AWKeIGpUBty-01153-00345914-00346320 more importantly why human rights AWKeIGpUBty-01154-00346321-00346678 organizations work was important for AWKeIGpUBty-01155-00346679-00347184 four defendants like Slobodan Milosevic AWKeIGpUBty-01156-00347185-00347668 politicians in charge is that every time AWKeIGpUBty-01157-00347669-00347986 they produced a report of breaches of AWKeIGpUBty-01158-00347987-00348111 Human Rights AWKeIGpUBty-01159-00348112-00348553 they actually officially send it to AWKeIGpUBty-01160-00348554-00349179 relevant ministries and very often to AWKeIGpUBty-01161-00349180-00349491 office of slobodan milosevic and that AWKeIGpUBty-01162-00349492-00349942 was very important for prosecutions for AWKeIGpUBty-01163-00349943-00350167 evident notice evidence putting AWKeIGpUBty-01164-00350168-00350416 politicians on notice AWKeIGpUBty-01165-00350417-00350743 Geri labor was another person whose AWKeIGpUBty-01166-00350744-00351034 evidence was immensely important for us AWKeIGpUBty-01167-00351035-00351603 who would say that they warned AWKeIGpUBty-01168-00351604-00351871 politicians in Serbia what was happening AWKeIGpUBty-01169-00351872-00352117 in Bosnia Herzegovina and once AWKeIGpUBty-01170-00352118-00352345 politicians were put on notice and if AWKeIGpUBty-01171-00352346-00352645 nothing changes if the crimes continue AWKeIGpUBty-01172-00352646-00353008 to happen that was a great evidence in AWKeIGpUBty-01173-00353009-00353317 the court for for the prosecution so AWKeIGpUBty-01174-00353318-00353688 their reports were used human rights AWKeIGpUBty-01175-00353689-00354085 researchers were used or asked to be AWKeIGpUBty-01176-00354086-00354334 fact witnesses sometimes they were just AWKeIGpUBty-01177-00354335-00354781 used to help investigators in the office AWKeIGpUBty-01178-00354782-00355263 to sort out evidence but once we would AWKeIGpUBty-01179-00355264-00355552 prosecution would get for example a AWKeIGpUBty-01180-00355553-00355834 reporting in evidence enough footnotes AWKeIGpUBty-01181-00355835-00356140 you would see the protective names of AWKeIGpUBty-01182-00356141-00356557 the witnesses so if we wanted to go back AWKeIGpUBty-01183-00356558-00357016 to the original file or we needed to ask AWKeIGpUBty-01184-00357017-00357331 special permission so the AWKeIGpUBty-01185-00357332-00357997 confidentiality of of research of human AWKeIGpUBty-01186-00357998-00358618 rights organization needed to be to be AWKeIGpUBty-01187-00358619-00359179 upheld because of of their future work AWKeIGpUBty-01188-00359180-00359452 because when they work with the people AWKeIGpUBty-01189-00359453-00359827 on the field everyone who would speak to AWKeIGpUBty-01190-00359828-00360061 them should know that in those AWKeIGpUBty-01191-00360062-00360325 circumstances their identity would be AWKeIGpUBty-01192-00360326-00360562 disclosed and these are very complicated AWKeIGpUBty-01193-00360563-00361096 very technical rules that needed to be AWKeIGpUBty-01194-00361097-00361691 respected from all possible sides AWKeIGpUBty-01195-00361692-00361964 so what are there are certain things AWKeIGpUBty-01196-00361965-00362225 that the NGOs or civil society will have AWKeIGpUBty-01197-00362226-00362483 to keep in mind when they collect AWKeIGpUBty-01198-00362484-00362687 evidence I guess this question kind of AWKeIGpUBty-01199-00362688-00362924 goes to both of you I mean so that it is AWKeIGpUBty-01200-00362925-00363125 actually presentable in the court that AWKeIGpUBty-01201-00363126-00363422 is something that will not I will out be AWKeIGpUBty-01202-00363423-00363961 challenged by the defense or basically AWKeIGpUBty-01203-00363962-00364241 so what will be like the basic rules AWKeIGpUBty-01204-00364242-00364568 that the NGOs will have to keep in mind AWKeIGpUBty-01205-00364569-00364730 when they're preparing this kind of AWKeIGpUBty-01206-00364731-00365366 evidence for later trials in several of AWKeIGpUBty-01207-00365367-00365564 the cases that I've been in we've gotten AWKeIGpUBty-01208-00365565-00365768 a kind of special ruling from the judges AWKeIGpUBty-01209-00365769-00366206 that what we're presenting will not have AWKeIGpUBty-01210-00366207-00366386 the same kind of chain of evidence that AWKeIGpUBty-01211-00366387-00366683 other kinds of evidence will have that AWKeIGpUBty-01212-00366684-00367010 we're putting together a story that AWKeIGpUBty-01213-00367011-00367304 involves collecting thousands or tens of AWKeIGpUBty-01214-00367305-00367580 thousands of individual stories which we AWKeIGpUBty-01215-00367581-00367949 may not have available in some sort of AWKeIGpUBty-01216-00367950-00368096 way that could be interrogated by the AWKeIGpUBty-01217-00368097-00368372 defense and so the challenge by the AWKeIGpUBty-01218-00368373-00368504 defense has to be a more technical AWKeIGpUBty-01219-00368505-00368720 challenge rather than a case-by-case AWKeIGpUBty-01220-00368721-00369074 data by data page-by-page kind of AWKeIGpUBty-01221-00369075-00369371 challenge and I think that that's AWKeIGpUBty-01222-00369372-00369575 probably appropriate for statistical AWKeIGpUBty-01223-00369576-00369803 evidence it doesn't strike me that it's AWKeIGpUBty-01224-00369804-00370136 going to be feasible to have every AWKeIGpUBty-01225-00370137-00370451 deposition in a giant crate behind the AWKeIGpUBty-01226-00370452-00370685 expert when he or she presents the AWKeIGpUBty-01227-00370686-00370850 results that's just not really gonna AWKeIGpUBty-01228-00370851-00371039 work out instead the kinds of critiques AWKeIGpUBty-01229-00371040-00371246 that a defense expert could bring would AWKeIGpUBty-01230-00371247-00371393 be about the methods that were used AWKeIGpUBty-01231-00371394-00371600 about whether or not the methods are AWKeIGpUBty-01232-00371601-00372029 appropriate whether or not the the AWKeIGpUBty-01233-00372030-00372236 results say what the expert the AWKeIGpUBty-01234-00372237-00372455 prosecution's expert actually says the AWKeIGpUBty-01235-00372456-00372623 results say statistical evidence may be AWKeIGpUBty-01236-00372624-00372854 subject to complicated interpretation AWKeIGpUBty-01237-00372855-00373019 and so maybe it doesn't say what the AWKeIGpUBty-01238-00373020-00373264 experts saying but says something else AWKeIGpUBty-01239-00373265-00373580 one kind of analysis that I would also AWKeIGpUBty-01240-00373581-00373850 recommend that both prosecution experts AWKeIGpUBty-01241-00373851-00373976 and defense experts who are using AWKeIGpUBty-01242-00373977-00374174 statistical claims do is called AWKeIGpUBty-01243-00374175-00374477 sensitivity analysis and in this I did AWKeIGpUBty-01244-00374478-00374618 quite a bit of this in my expert AWKeIGpUBty-01245-00374619-00374723 testimony AWKeIGpUBty-01246-00374724-00375001 in all the cases in which we say well AWKeIGpUBty-01247-00375002-00375338 you know we have the evidence here of AWKeIGpUBty-01248-00375339-00375587 say in the in the Guatemalan cases we AWKeIGpUBty-01249-00375588-00375989 are using something like twenty twenty AWKeIGpUBty-01250-00375990-00376232 to twenty three thousand individual AWKeIGpUBty-01251-00376233-00376492 testimonies are part of what we're AWKeIGpUBty-01252-00376493-00376826 presenting here some of them are AWKeIGpUBty-01253-00376827-00377162 probably lies they're not all true I'm AWKeIGpUBty-01254-00377163-00377456 sure they're not all true how many of AWKeIGpUBty-01255-00377457-00377734 them have to be wrong before the result AWKeIGpUBty-01256-00377735-00378029 changes that's the statisticians claim AWKeIGpUBty-01257-00378030-00378245 or the concern the statistician doesn't AWKeIGpUBty-01258-00378246-00378464 ask are they all perfect I know they're AWKeIGpUBty-01259-00378465-00378695 not all perfect some of them are wrong AWKeIGpUBty-01260-00378696-00378933 most of them are right where's the line AWKeIGpUBty-01261-00378934-00379205 now I'm making a claim going back to the AWKeIGpUBty-01262-00379206-00379379 Guatemalan case you guys may have may AWKeIGpUBty-01263-00379380-00379565 recall that what I was arguing is that AWKeIGpUBty-01264-00379566-00379754 the relative risk of being killed for an AWKeIGpUBty-01265-00379755-00379952 indigenous person was eight times AWKeIGpUBty-01266-00379953-00380192 greater than for a non-indigenous person AWKeIGpUBty-01267-00380193-00380414 and I found that to be consistent with AWKeIGpUBty-01268-00380415-00380639 the prosecution's claim that acts of AWKeIGpUBty-01269-00380640-00380798 genocide were committed in these three AWKeIGpUBty-01270-00380799-00381296 counties of Guatemala how many of the AWKeIGpUBty-01271-00381297-00381530 testimonies that we used as the AWKeIGpUBty-01272-00381531-00381709 foundation for our report would have to AWKeIGpUBty-01273-00381710-00382046 have been falsehoods in order for that AWKeIGpUBty-01274-00382047-00382297 result to change in any meaningful way AWKeIGpUBty-01275-00382298-00382708 okay and so we could subject that by AWKeIGpUBty-01276-00382709-00382964 deleting some of them by changing some AWKeIGpUBty-01277-00382965-00383233 of them by perturbing the data is the AWKeIGpUBty-01278-00383234-00383426 way a statistician talks about it how AWKeIGpUBty-01279-00383427-00383693 much can the data be perturbed and still AWKeIGpUBty-01280-00383694-00383957 get to the conclusion that is consistent AWKeIGpUBty-01281-00383958-00384179 with the prosecution's claim so rather AWKeIGpUBty-01282-00384180-00384360 than fighting about an individual case AWKeIGpUBty-01283-00384361-00384728 we say what is the big picture how much AWKeIGpUBty-01284-00384729-00384872 do we think is plausible do we think AWKeIGpUBty-01285-00384873-00385181 that 20% of these are lies are 30% of AWKeIGpUBty-01286-00385182-00385430 them lies and it turns out because of AWKeIGpUBty-01287-00385431-00385565 the way the math works and because of AWKeIGpUBty-01288-00385566-00385769 the way the whole calculation works most AWKeIGpUBty-01289-00385770-00386003 of our findings are robust which means AWKeIGpUBty-01290-00386004-00386204 we've make the same finding even if 20% AWKeIGpUBty-01291-00386205-00386498 of them are lies which is quite AWKeIGpUBty-01292-00386499-00386687 extraordinary right because the results AWKeIGpUBty-01293-00386688-00386891 are not a close call for the most part AWKeIGpUBty-01294-00386892-00387116 so we can have enormous amounts of AWKeIGpUBty-01295-00387117-00387275 garbage in our system and still get a AWKeIGpUBty-01296-00387276-00387512 clear answer and we can make different AWKeIGpUBty-01297-00387513-00387749 kinds of assumptions about what kinds of AWKeIGpUBty-01298-00387750-00388046 garbage it is and still check to see if AWKeIGpUBty-01299-00388047-00388115 the answer AWKeIGpUBty-01300-00388116-00388381 is continues to be to be solid and AWKeIGpUBty-01301-00388382-00388582 that's the kind of way a statistician AWKeIGpUBty-01302-00388583-00388799 approaches this problem again I think AWKeIGpUBty-01303-00388800-00388933 it's quite different than the way a AWKeIGpUBty-01304-00388934-00389222 journalist or a field analyst or a AWKeIGpUBty-01305-00389223-00389345 lawyer might approach it where you're AWKeIGpUBty-01306-00389346-00389543 worrying about each case each story AWKeIGpUBty-01307-00389544-00389717 we're not worried about each story we AWKeIGpUBty-01308-00389718-00389849 know some of the stories we get are not AWKeIGpUBty-01309-00389850-00389897 true AWKeIGpUBty-01310-00389898-00390106 does it matter well it depends how many AWKeIGpUBty-01311-00390107-00390328 of them there are let's check let's test AWKeIGpUBty-01312-00390329-00390515 that let's measure it let's rerun the AWKeIGpUBty-01313-00390516-00391030 models see if they still hold I guess AWKeIGpUBty-01314-00391031-00391223 the big numbers or the mr. disco method AWKeIGpUBty-01315-00391224-00391514 methodology helps in that aspect to get AWKeIGpUBty-01316-00391515-00391796 it the more full the picture of the AWKeIGpUBty-01317-00391797-00392267 events the analogy that I used in court AWKeIGpUBty-01318-00392268-00392605 is that doing statistics is like AWKeIGpUBty-01319-00392606-00392779 listening to your friend talked to you AWKeIGpUBty-01320-00392780-00393101 in a crowded bar the people are talking AWKeIGpUBty-01321-00393102-00393248 and lots of people are talking and AWKeIGpUBty-01322-00393249-00393467 there's lots of noise can you still hear AWKeIGpUBty-01323-00393468-00393671 your friend can you still make out what AWKeIGpUBty-01324-00393672-00393869 your friend is saying well the answer is AWKeIGpUBty-01325-00393870-00394067 maybe right it depends how loud the bar AWKeIGpUBty-01326-00394068-00394214 is it depends how clear your friends AWKeIGpUBty-01327-00394215-00394456 voice is it depends if you if you have a AWKeIGpUBty-01328-00394457-00394598 pretty good theory about what your AWKeIGpUBty-01329-00394599-00394799 friends saying if you kind of know what AWKeIGpUBty-01330-00394800-00395000 your friends saying it's easier to hear AWKeIGpUBty-01331-00395001-00395189 what she's trying to tell you you know AWKeIGpUBty-01332-00395190-00395335 there's lots of things that go into your AWKeIGpUBty-01333-00395336-00395573 ability to make out the signal from the AWKeIGpUBty-01334-00395574-00395827 noise and that analogy is actually quite AWKeIGpUBty-01335-00395828-00396031 good there's there's ways that that AWKeIGpUBty-01336-00396032-00396220 represents many of the problems of AWKeIGpUBty-01337-00396221-00396473 understanding a signal you know a AWKeIGpUBty-01338-00396474-00396671 statistical pattern in the midst of AWKeIGpUBty-01339-00396672-00397271 noisy and partial data okay so in the AWKeIGpUBty-01340-00397272-00397480 remaining twenty minutes we will take AWKeIGpUBty-01341-00397481-00397823 questions with question that I punted AWKeIGpUBty-01342-00397824-00398297 before on audience so sorry because I AWKeIGpUBty-01343-00398298-00398626 maybe now is the time to yeah that's AWKeIGpUBty-01344-00398627-00399065 great when scientists do or do a project AWKeIGpUBty-01345-00399066-00399376 we we don't generally do it once we'll AWKeIGpUBty-01346-00399377-00399580 do it over and over and over again AWKeIGpUBty-01347-00399581-00399982 trying to figure out if additional data AWKeIGpUBty-01348-00399983-00400175 or a different method or some other AWKeIGpUBty-01349-00400176-00400432 approach yields the same result and for AWKeIGpUBty-01350-00400433-00400702 most of the cases that we've done the AWKeIGpUBty-01351-00400703-00400903 case that I present in court is usually AWKeIGpUBty-01352-00400904-00401107 the third or fourth or fifth version of AWKeIGpUBty-01353-00401108-00401315 that project I've done and I may do more AWKeIGpUBty-01354-00401316-00401385 after AWKeIGpUBty-01355-00401386-00401664 that case each of those projects AWKeIGpUBty-01356-00401665-00401799 probably has a different kind of AWKeIGpUBty-01357-00401800-00402066 audience and so some of those audiences AWKeIGpUBty-01358-00402067-00402198 are truth Commission's some of those AWKeIGpUBty-01359-00402199-00402393 audiences are public reports some of AWKeIGpUBty-01360-00402394-00402594 those audiences are chapters in the book AWKeIGpUBty-01361-00402595-00402765 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