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[13:59] <nemo> dserodio: you could test a clean firefox download off of mozilla's site I guess, that would eliminate that. but I bet it's your desktop environment.

[13:59] <nemo> dserodio: you could test a clean firefox download off of mozilla's site I guess, that would eliminate that. but I bet it's your desktop environment.

<s> <user> : you could test a clean firefox download off of mozilla 's site i guess , that would eliminate that . but i bet it 's your desktop environment . </s>

2018-02-27

[14:00] <EriC^^> !eolupgrades | lionrouge no that's not really recommended

[14:00] <EriC^^> !eolupgrades | lionrouge no that's not really recommended

<s> ! eolupgrades | <user> no that 's not really recommended </s>

2018-02-27

[14:00] <ubottu> lionrouge no that's not really recommended: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades

[14:00] <ubottu> lionrouge no that's not really recommended: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades

<s> <user> no that 's not really recommended : end-of-life is the time when security updates and support for an ubuntu release stop , see URL/https:/ URL/wiki.ubuntu.com/ URL/releases/ for more information . looking to upgrade from an eol release ? see URL/https:/ URL/help.ubuntu.com/ URL/community/eolupgrades/ </s>

2018-02-27

[14:00] <kostkon> lionrouge, no, it would be much safer to attempt an eol upgrade. chck the links above ^

[14:00] <kostkon> lionrouge, no, it would be much safer to attempt an eol upgrade. chck the links above ^

<s> <user> , no , it would be much safer to attempt an eol upgrade . chck the links above ^ </s>

2018-02-27

[14:00] <nemo> EriC^^: or 14.04 <unconvertable>

[14:00] <nemo> EriC^^: or 14.04 <unconvertable>

<s> <user> : or 14.04 <unconvertable > </s>

2018-02-27

[14:00] <EriC^^> sure :)

[14:00] <EriC^^> sure :)

<s> sure :) </s>

2018-02-27

[14:01] <kostkon> nemo, no point in recommending 14.04 anymore though

[14:01] <kostkon> nemo, no point in recommending 14.04 anymore though

<s> <user> , no point in recommending 14.04 anymore though </s>

2018-02-27

[14:01] <Lehthanis> http://pasteall.org/847840 this may be part of my problem...

[14:01] <Lehthanis> http://pasteall.org/847840 this may be part of my problem...

<s> URL/http:/ <unka./> <unk#a/> this may be part of my problem ... </s>

2018-02-27

[14:01] <nemo> EriC^^: in all seriousness, it was the only version of ubuntu that *didn't* corrupt my coworker's HD every time the laptop suspended

[14:01] <nemo> EriC^^: in all seriousness, it was the only version of ubuntu that *didn't* corrupt my coworker's HD every time the laptop suspended

<s> <user> : in all seriousness , it was the only version of ubuntu that <unka'*> corrupt my coworker 's hd every time the laptop suspended </s>

2018-02-27

[14:01] <nemo> kostkon: I just did last month for reason above

[14:01] <nemo> kostkon: I just did last month for reason above

<s> <user> : i just did last month for reason above </s>

2018-02-27

[14:02] <EriC^^> nemo: yeah i liked it a lot too, though i cant complain about 16.04 it's served me well

[14:02] <EriC^^> nemo: yeah i liked it a lot too, though i cant complain about 16.04 it's served me well

<s> <user> : yeah i liked it a lot too , though i cant complain about 16.04 it 's served me well </s>

2018-02-27

[14:02] <nemo> EriC^^: 16.04 killed his HD too, not too sure why.

[14:02] <nemo> EriC^^: 16.04 killed his HD too, not too sure why.

<s> <user> : 16.04 killed his hd too , not too sure why . </s>

2018-02-27

[14:02] <EriC^^> it's corrupting the filesystem on suspends?

[14:02] <EriC^^> it's corrupting the filesystem on suspends?

<s> it 's corrupting the filesystem on suspends ? </s>

2018-02-27

[14:02] <nemo> EriC^^: he must have reinstalled a good dozen times, tried everything, including various kernel updates. 14.04 fixed everything

[14:02] <nemo> EriC^^: he must have reinstalled a good dozen times, tried everything, including various kernel updates. 14.04 fixed everything

<s> <user> : he must have reinstalled a good dozen times , tried everything , including various kernel updates . 14.04 fixed everything </s>

2018-02-27

[14:03] <nemo> EriC^^: yeah. it was esp irritating 'cause not only did closing laptop lid trigger it, but accidentally hitting this icon in his left bar. it's some unity thing I'm unfamiliar with, but he'd do it accidentally

[14:03] <nemo> EriC^^: yeah. it was esp irritating 'cause not only did closing laptop lid trigger it, but accidentally hitting this icon in his left bar. it's some unity thing I'm unfamiliar with, but he'd do it accidentally

<s> <user> : yeah . it was esp irritating 'cause not only did closing laptop lid trigger it , but accidentally hitting this icon in his left bar . it 's some unity thing i 'm unfamiliar with , but he'd do it accidentally </s>

2018-02-27

[14:03] <nemo> then "aw crap time to reinstall"

[14:03] <nemo> then "aw crap time to reinstall"

<s> then " aw crap time to reinstall " </s>

2018-02-27

[14:03] <EriC^^> that's odd

[14:03] <EriC^^> that's odd

<s> that 's odd </s>

2018-02-27

[14:04] <nemo> yeeep

[14:04] <nemo> yeeep

<s> <unka> </s>

2018-02-27

[14:05] <nemo> EriC^^: my own personal reasons for staying on 14.04 are gonna get an off-topic flag tho <unconvertable>

[14:05] <nemo> EriC^^: my own personal reasons for staying on 14.04 are gonna get an off-topic flag tho <unconvertable>

<s> <user> : my own personal reasons for staying on 14.04 are gonna get an off-topic flag tho <unconvertable > </s>

2018-02-27

[14:05] <nemo> dserodio: you could maybe test a clean desktop environment by logging into a different one, or as a different user

[14:05] <nemo> dserodio: you could maybe test a clean desktop environment by logging into a different one, or as a different user

<s> <user> : you could maybe test a clean desktop environment by logging into a different one , or as a different user </s>

2018-02-27

[14:07] <Marenz> hmm the issue isn't gone it seems

[14:07] <Marenz> hmm the issue isn't gone it seems

<s> hmm the issue is n't gone it seems </s>

2018-02-27

[14:07] <Marenz> rsync completely fails to upload anything

[14:07] <Marenz> rsync completely fails to upload anything

<s> rsync completely fails to upload anything </s>

2018-02-27

[14:07] <Marenz> it's really odd behavior

[14:07] <Marenz> it's really odd behavior

<s> it 's really odd behavior </s>

2018-02-27

[14:08] <EriC^^> nemo: haha :)

[14:08] <EriC^^> nemo: haha :)

<s> <user> : haha :) </s>

2018-02-27

[14:09] <raidghost> 14.04 is stoneage old :P

[14:09] <raidghost> 14.04 is stoneage old :P

<s> 14.04 is stoneage old :p </s>

2018-02-27

[14:09] * nemo shrugs

[14:09] * nemo shrugs

<s> </s>

2018-02-27

[14:09] <Marenz> okay, this is interesting

[14:09] <Marenz> okay, this is interesting

<s> okay , this is interesting </s>

2018-02-27

[14:09] <nemo> anything I care about I use a PPA.

[14:09] <nemo> anything I care about I use a PPA.

<s> anything i care about i use a ppa . </s>

2018-02-27

[14:09] <Marenz> if I login from another server, everything is normal fast

[14:09] <Marenz> if I login from another server, everything is normal fast

<s> if i login from another server , everything is normal fast </s>

2018-02-27

[14:09] <nemo> gimp, libreoffice..

[14:09] <nemo> gimp, libreoffice..

<s> gimp , libreoffice .. </s>

2018-02-27

[14:09] <nemo> firefox is up to date ofc

[14:09] <nemo> firefox is up to date ofc

<s> firefox is up to date ofc </s>

2018-02-27

[14:09] <Marenz> so it's some local problem then

[14:09] <Marenz> so it's some local problem then

<s> so it 's some local problem then </s>

2018-02-27

[14:09] <Marenz> but only with this server

[14:09] <Marenz> but only with this server

<s> but only with this server </s>

2018-02-27

[14:10] <Marenz> how weird

[14:10] <Marenz> how weird

<s> how weird </s>

2018-02-27

[14:10] <nemo> Marenz: hm

[14:10] <nemo> Marenz: hm

<s> <user> : hm </s>

2018-02-27

[14:10] <kostkon> nemo, or snaps, it's even been given snap support posthumously

[14:10] <kostkon> nemo, or snaps, it's even been given snap support posthumously

<s> <user> , or snaps , it 's even been given snap support <unka> </s>

2018-02-27

[14:10] <nemo> Marenz: in that ssh -vvv maybe compare what encryption it is negotiating?

[14:10] <nemo> Marenz: in that ssh -vvv maybe compare what encryption it is negotiating?

<s> <user> : in that ssh -vvv maybe compare what encryption it is negotiating ? </s>

2018-02-27

[14:10] <nemo> kostkon: what is snaps?

[14:10] <nemo> kostkon: what is snaps?

<s> <user> : what is snaps ? </s>

2018-02-27

[14:11] <DiecastMessiah> snapshots it a newer packages file like .deb i bilieve

[14:11] <DiecastMessiah> snapshots it a newer packages file like .deb i bilieve

<s> snapshots it a newer packages file like .deb i <unka> </s>

2018-02-27

[14:12] <DiecastMessiah> believe*

[14:12] <DiecastMessiah> believe*

<s> <unka*> </s>

2018-02-27

[14:12] <nemo> ah

[14:12] <nemo> ah

<s> ah </s>

2018-02-27

[14:12] <nemo> never run into one.

[14:12] <nemo> never run into one.

<s> never run into one . </s>

2018-02-27

[14:12] <kostkon> nemo, the new universal package format by canonical? http://snapcraft.io/

[14:12] <kostkon> nemo, the new universal package format by canonical? http://snapcraft.io/

<s> <user> , the new universal package format by canonical ? URL/http:/ URL/snapcraft.io/ </s>

2018-02-27

[14:12] <nemo> huh. interesting. first I've heard of it.

[14:12] <nemo> huh. interesting. first I've heard of it.

<s> huh . interesting . first i 've heard of it . </s>

2018-02-27

[14:12] <Marenz> debug1: Server accepts key: pkalg rsa-sha2-512 blen 547

[14:12] <Marenz> debug1: Server accepts key: pkalg rsa-sha2-512 blen 547

<s> debug1 : server accepts key : <unka> <unk#a-> <unka> <unk#> </s>

2018-02-27

[14:13] <nemo> Marenz: and for the cipher?

[14:13] <nemo> Marenz: and for the cipher?

<s> <user> : and for the cipher ? </s>

2018-02-27

[14:13] <Marenz> hmm the other server says

[14:13] <Marenz> hmm the other server says

<s> hmm the other server says </s>

2018-02-27

[14:13] <Marenz> debug1: Server accepts key: pkalg ssh-rsa blen 547

[14:13] <Marenz> debug1: Server accepts key: pkalg ssh-rsa blen 547

<s> debug1 : server accepts key : <unka> ssh-rsa <unka> <unk#> </s>

2018-02-27

[14:13] <kostkon> nemo, you can browser its "catalogue" here https://uappexplorer.com/snaps or just use Ubuntu Software or man snap etc.

[14:13] <kostkon> nemo, you can browser its "catalogue" here https://uappexplorer.com/snaps or just use Ubuntu Software or man snap etc.

<s> <user> , you can browser its " catalogue " here URL/https:/ <unka./> <unka/> or just use ubuntu software or man snap etc . </s>

2018-02-27

[14:13] <kostkon> browse*

[14:13] <kostkon> browse*

<s> <unka*> </s>

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[14:13] <Marenz> debug1: kex: server->client cipher: chacha20-poly1305@openssh.com MAC: <implicit> compression: none

[14:13] <Marenz> debug1: kex: server->client cipher: chacha20-poly1305@openssh.com MAC: <implicit> compression: none

<s> debug1 : kex : server -> client cipher : <unk#a-_> <unka.@_> mac : <unka<> > compression : none </s>

2018-02-27

[14:13] <Marenz> debug1: kex: client->server cipher: chacha20-poly1305@openssh.com MAC: <implicit> compression: none

[14:13] <Marenz> debug1: kex: client->server cipher: chacha20-poly1305@openssh.com MAC: <implicit> compression: none

<s> debug1 : kex : client -> server cipher : <unk#a-_> <unka.@_> mac : <unka<> > compression : none </s>

2018-02-27

[14:14] <nemo> Marenz: guess you could experiment w/ setting MACs/KexAlgorithms/Ciphers in your ~/.ssh/config

[14:14] <nemo> Marenz: guess you could experiment w/ setting MACs/KexAlgorithms/Ciphers in your ~/.ssh/config

<s> <user> : guess you could experiment w/ setting <unka/> in your DIR/~/ DIR/.ssh/ DIR/config/ </s>

2018-02-27

[14:14] <nemo> Marenz: or... maybe it's an intermittent bug and it just seems like it is client specific <unconvertable>

[14:14] <nemo> Marenz: or... maybe it's an intermittent bug and it just seems like it is client specific <unconvertable>

<s> <user> : or ... maybe it 's an intermittent bug and it just seems like it is client specific <unconvertable > </s>

2018-02-27

[14:14] <nemo> kostkon: is debian onboard with this?

[14:14] <nemo> kostkon: is debian onboard with this?

<s> <user> : is debian onboard with this ? </s>

2018-02-27

[14:15] <kostkon> nemo, many distros are ditto about Debian

[14:15] <kostkon> nemo, many distros are ditto about Debian

<s> <user> , many distros are ditto about debian </s>

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[14:15] <nemo> kk

[14:15] <nemo> kk

<s> kk </s>

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[14:15] <nemo> kostkon: ah. I see. yeah

[14:15] <nemo> kostkon: ah. I see. yeah

<s> <user> : ah . i see . yeah </s>

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[14:16] <nemo> kostkon: so... this is going to more the Apple/Microsoft/Steam kinda packaging I guess, where most libs are contained in the app

[14:16] <nemo> kostkon: so... this is going to more the Apple/Microsoft/Steam kinda packaging I guess, where most libs are contained in the app

<s> <user> : so ... this is going to more the <unka/> kinda packaging i guess , where most libs are contained in the app </s>

2018-02-27

[14:16] <nemo> kostkon: instead of shared system-wide

[14:16] <nemo> kostkon: instead of shared system-wide

<s> <user> : instead of shared system-wide </s>

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[14:16] <kostkon> nemo, there are some shared ones but yeah everything needed is contained in the app

[14:16] <kostkon> nemo, there are some shared ones but yeah everything needed is contained in the app

<s> <user> , there are some shared ones but yeah everything needed is contained in the app </s>

2018-02-27

[14:17] <nemo> kostkon: mm. yeah, I'm just not a fan of that approach

[14:17] <nemo> kostkon: mm. yeah, I'm just not a fan of that approach

<s> <user> : mm . yeah , i 'm just not a fan of that approach </s>

2018-02-27

[14:17] <nemo> kostkon: higher memory usage, space usage, more difficult to ensure a patch to a key lib got applied everywhere

[14:17] <nemo> kostkon: higher memory usage, space usage, more difficult to ensure a patch to a key lib got applied everywhere

<s> <user> : higher memory usage , space usage , more difficult to ensure a patch to a key lib got applied everywhere </s>

2018-02-27

[14:17] <nemo> ah well

[14:17] <nemo> ah well

<s> ah well </s>

2018-02-27

[14:18] <nemo> kostkon: containerising can be good for security tho

[14:18] <nemo> kostkon: containerising can be good for security tho

<s> <user> : <unka> can be good for security tho </s>

2018-02-27

[14:18] <kostkon> nemo, yep

[14:18] <kostkon> nemo, yep

<s> <user> , yep </s>

2018-02-27

[14:18] <nemo> and can help reliability. like. physfs 3 broke ABI and we were getting ton of Arch users complaining Hedgewars broke

[14:18] <nemo> and can help reliability. like. physfs 3 broke ABI and we were getting ton of Arch users complaining Hedgewars broke

<s> and can help reliability . like . <unka> 3 broke abi and we were getting ton of arch users complaining hedgewars broke </s>

2018-02-27

[14:18] <nemo> when it was just that arch hadn't rebuilt Hedgewars

[14:18] <nemo> when it was just that arch hadn't rebuilt Hedgewars

<s> when it was just that arch had n't rebuilt hedgewars </s>

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[14:18] <nemo> and... physfs had changed portion of a key struct's size

[14:18] <nemo> and... physfs had changed portion of a key struct's size

<s> and ... <unka> had changed portion of a key struct 's size </s>

2018-02-27

[14:19] <nemo> kostkon: but, I think I'd still take the space/memory/patching advantages over this

[14:19] <nemo> kostkon: but, I think I'd still take the space/memory/patching advantages over this

<s> <user> : but , i think i'd still take the <unka/> advantages over this </s>

2018-02-27

[14:19] <nemo> kostkon: esp I guess in more constrained envs like my ubuntu chroot on my phone

[14:19] <nemo> kostkon: esp I guess in more constrained envs like my ubuntu chroot on my phone

<s> <user> : esp i guess in more constrained envs like my ubuntu chroot on my phone </s>

2018-02-27

[14:19] <nemo> so long as it stays optional!

[14:19] <nemo> so long as it stays optional!

<s> so long as it stays optional ! </s>

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[14:19] <kostkon> nemo, it will stay i guess

[14:19] <kostkon> nemo, it will stay i guess

<s> <user> , it will stay i guess </s>

2018-02-27

[14:19] <nemo> great

[14:19] <nemo> great

<s> great </s>

2018-02-27

[14:22] <ioc_> it will always be optional, and anyway it's useful when the app is based on a framework that rapidly evolves like gnome

[14:22] <ioc_> it will always be optional, and anyway it's useful when the app is based on a framework that rapidly evolves like gnome

<s> it will always be optional , and anyway it 's useful when the app is based on a framework that rapidly <unka> like gnome </s>

2018-02-27

[14:23] <ioc_> as in break backward compatibikity often

[14:23] <ioc_> as in break backward compatibikity often

<s> as in break backward <unka> often </s>

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[14:24] <ioc_> so you can have more than one version of the framework installed side-by-side without needing to recompile all the apps

[14:24] <ioc_> so you can have more than one version of the framework installed side-by-side without needing to recompile all the apps

<s> so you can have more than one version of the framework installed side-by-side without needing to recompile all the apps </s>

2018-02-27

[14:26] <Marenz> nemo: you seem to be on the right track

[14:26] <Marenz> nemo: you seem to be on the right track

<s> <user> : you seem to be on the right track </s>

2018-02-27

[14:26] <Marenz> if I enforce password auth on the client, it works smooth

[14:26] <Marenz> if I enforce password auth on the client, it works smooth

<s> if i enforce password auth on the client , it works smooth </s>

2018-02-27

[14:27] <nemo> O_o

[14:27] <nemo> O_o

<s> o_o </s>

2018-02-27

[14:27] <frazr> DiecastMessiah: thanks for the fsck links , but sadly not a single method has worked.. tried almost everything now, manipulations mount times, last checked tim with tune2fs etc.. :)

[14:27] <frazr> DiecastMessiah: thanks for the fsck links , but sadly not a single method has worked.. tried almost everything now, manipulations mount times, last checked tim with tune2fs etc.. :)

<s> <user> : thanks for the fsck links , but sadly not a single method has worked .. tried almost everything now , manipulations mount times , last checked tim with tune2fs etc .. :) </s>

2018-02-27

[14:27] <frazr> still wont run fsck

[14:27] <frazr> still wont run fsck

<s> still wont run fsck </s>

2018-02-27

[14:29] <DiecastMessiah> frazr: darn sorry that didn't help.. i am newbie so i have no other idea's .. but someone here will be able to help .. more users should be active soon

[14:29] <DiecastMessiah> frazr: darn sorry that didn't help.. i am newbie so i have no other idea's .. but someone here will be able to help .. more users should be active soon

<s> <user> : darn sorry that did n't help .. i am newbie so i have no other idea 's .. but someone here will be able to help .. more users should be active soon </s>

2018-02-27

[14:30] <norm_> quick question about default DE in 17.10

[14:30] <norm_> quick question about default DE in 17.10

<s> quick question about default de in 17.10 </s>

2018-02-27

[14:31] <frazr> no worries, thanks anyway

[14:31] <frazr> no worries, thanks anyway

<s> no worries , thanks anyway </s>

2018-02-27

[14:32] <akik> frazr: wasn't the file called /.forcefsck and not /forcefsck ?

[14:32] <akik> frazr: wasn't the file called /.forcefsck and not /forcefsck ?

<s> <user> : was n't the file called <unka./> and not DIR/forcefsck/ ? </s>

2018-02-27

[14:32] <norm_> anyone know how to get Nautilus to act like it does in the modified version used in Unity?

[14:32] <norm_> anyone know how to get Nautilus to act like it does in the modified version used in Unity?

<s> anyone know how to get nautilus to act like it does in the modified version used in unity ? </s>

2018-02-27

[14:33] <frazr> akik: dunno, doesnt matter its not used anymore

[14:33] <frazr> akik: dunno, doesnt matter its not used anymore

<s> <user> : dunno , doesnt matter its not used anymore </s>

2018-02-27

[14:33] <kostkon> akik, i think it's /forcefsck

[14:33] <kostkon> akik, i think it's /forcefsck

<s> <user> , i think it 's DIR/forcefsck/ </s>

2018-02-27

[14:33] <akik> frazr: it's /.forcefsck

[14:33] <akik> frazr: it's /.forcefsck

<s> <user> : it 's <unka./> </s>

2018-02-27

[14:33] <kostkon> was* then

[14:33] <kostkon> was* then

<s> was* then </s>

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[14:33] <akik> frazr: when did it stop working?

[14:33] <akik> frazr: when did it stop working?

<s> <user> : when did it stop working ? </s>

2018-02-27

[14:33] <DiecastMessiah> i read it used to be touch /forcefsck .. but that old.. with upstart , no good for systemd

[14:33] <DiecastMessiah> i read it used to be touch /forcefsck .. but that old.. with upstart , no good for systemd

<s> i read it used to be touch DIR/forcefsck/ .. but that old .. with upstart , no good for systemd </s>

2018-02-27

[14:33] <frazr> because of that it's foolish to trust an untrustworthy filesystem for writes, wich i can agree on

[14:33] <frazr> because of that it's foolish to trust an untrustworthy filesystem for writes, wich i can agree on

<s> because of that it 's foolish to trust an untrustworthy filesystem for writes , wich i can agree on </s>

2018-02-27

[14:35] <frazr> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/400851/what-should-i-do-to-force-the-root-filesystem-check-and-optionally-a-fix-at-bo

[14:35] <frazr> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/400851/what-should-i-do-to-force-the-root-filesystem-check-and-optionally-a-fix-at-bo

<s> URL/https:/ URL/unix.stackexchange.com/ <unk#a-/> </s>

2018-02-27

[14:35] <frazr> tried everything there

[14:35] <frazr> tried everything there

<s> tried everything there </s>

2018-02-27

[14:35] <frazr> still no dice :)

[14:35] <frazr> still no dice :)

<s> still no dice :) </s>

2018-02-27

[14:35] <void_false> Hello Tomer

[14:35] <void_false> Hello Tomer

<s> hello tomer </s>

2018-02-27

[14:37] <norobot> hi all, I am trying to bind the command "xte "mousedown 1"" to <CTRL>Button1 via CompizConfigManager in Ubuntu, but cannot seem to make that key+mouseclick combination do the "click and hold" action that I need. Advice, anyone?

[14:37] <norobot> hi all, I am trying to bind the command "xte "mousedown 1"" to <CTRL>Button1 via CompizConfigManager in Ubuntu, but cannot seem to make that key+mouseclick combination do the "click and hold" action that I need. Advice, anyone?

<s> hi all , i am trying to bind the command " xte " <unka> 1 "" to <ctrl > button1 via <unka> in ubuntu , but cannot seem to make that <unka+> combination do the " click and hold " action that i need . advice , anyone ? </s>

2018-02-27

=== zenguy is now known as coffeeguy

=== zenguy is now known as coffeeguy

<s> zenguy is now known as <user> </s>

2018-02-27