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2,978,878 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | Some other areas also ban manufacturers and large businesses from generating their own renewable electricity or access to new technologies is limited because many consumers in America are limited to a monopoly to purchase their electricity |
2,978,879 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | So Mr Dennis should we accept the status quo where certain consumers of electricity are worse off simply because of their geographic location |
2,978,881 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | We certainly shouldnt accept a status quo of consumers not being able to access the energy that they desire certainly |
2,978,884 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | But certainly we have seen and the example ofthe great example of Texas that you mentioned in terms of the ability of consumers to choose more advanced energy is a powerful one |
2,978,886 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | Certainly improving utility planning and ensuring that the lowcost benefits of advanced energy are recognized |
2,978,891 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | In instances where new technologies are able to provide a range of services across that sort of wholesale and retail divide that we have traditionally thought about the electricity grid there can certainly be barriers that inhibit those kinds of services |
2,978,898 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | Should this committee consider legislation to improve access to more innovative technologies and lowercost advanced energy across all regions of the country |
2,978,900 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | I think this committee should consider a range of options to continue to empower consumers to choose clean and advanced energy |
2,978,901 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | As I mentioned in my testimony 71 percent of the Fortune 100 and 43 percent of the Fortune 500 companies have clean sustainable energy goals and want to purchase more advanced energy |
2,978,903 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | And those should all be considered as we think about decarbonizing the electricity grid |
2,978,917 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | Ms Palmer we have got a lot of talking points these days about the best way to get to zero carbon emissions at the end of the day |
2,978,918 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | And one side of the aisle is always about innovation innovation innovation the other is about regulatory approaches carbon pricing et cetera |
2,978,919 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | Are they mutually exclusive or could we work together to come up with something with a little bit of the regulatory framework that enhances hopefully getting there and at the same time making sure that the innovation so that the different industries can actually all contribute to reducing our carbon emissions |
2,978,922 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | I think putting a flexible approach in such as a price on carbon will provide incentives to folks to innovate both folks who are in the energy supply business and also folks who produce supplies for them and otherenergy storage people |
2,978,923 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | But as has been mentioned previously at this hearing we are pretty certain that we can get to the 80 percent decarbonized goal now |
2,978,929 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | You know the idea of just pricing carbon would seem to tacitly admit that we are going to still have a lot of carbon production as a result of different energy sources in this country |
2,978,930 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | What about putting a lot of money into research and innovation to go far an alloftheabove carbon capture carbon reduction renewable approach and allow the market to do its innovation |
2,978,935 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | So one of the virtues of the price on carbon is it does encourage reducing carbon emissions and moving towards the goals that the committee is talking about would ideally probably happen through a price that goes up over time |
2,978,936 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | And so that is going to increasingly discourage the carbon emissions but it also creates in the interim a source of revenue some of which could be devoted to doing the types of research that will be required to get to our goals |
2,978,943 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | There is 120 million worth of private capital being placed into fusion technology because of belief that Congress will do something about carbon |
2,978,945 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | So I think it is both the allure of the market and the investment potential associated with being the leastcost supplier of carbonfree energy combined with the RD in some fundamental science areas |
2,978,949 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | And I dont care if you are in the transportation sector or the power plant sector or whatever there is no certainty in the marketplace |
2,978,964 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | And I have to agreeI am a big believer that we need to have parity in our research dollars coming out of DOE and other places because we are going to continue to use the carbonbased fuels and we have got to figure out ways to do that |
2,978,965 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | And doing research on all of this so that we can get to this number not just by saying we are going to eliminate the carbonbased fuelsoil natural gas coalbut by figuring out how we can do it cleaner |
2,978,966 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | Another colleague brought up carbon capture and sequestration |
2,978,969 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | I am looking here at the screen because there is a videosoon to come to a theater near youthat shows how they can take out with different filters NOx SOx flash and carbon dioxide |
2,978,974 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | And it is a way that we can get to zero perhaps by 2050 but not just by saying we are going to eliminate the use of our carbonbased fuels |
2,978,976 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | And they started off looking for ways that they could separate rare earth from the coal in central Appalachia |
2,978,978 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | Because India has coal |
2,978,979 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | They have dirty coal |
2,978,980 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | They dont have much else to use in the way of fuels |
2,978,981 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | And if we think they are going to eliminate the use of coal and bankrupt their industriesnot going to happen |
2,978,982 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | But this technology that we have developed here they have figured out can be usedthey dont have rare earth but they can separate the dirty coal from the higherutilization of the higherthe better carbon and lower the carbon footprint at steel mills in India |
2,979,007 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | And so that is reallythose are some of the key distinctions I would say between theand it doesnt mean we dont get along with our brethren across the electric sector both the municipals and the investorowned |
2,979,009 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | But those are some of the distinctions for electric cooperatives |
2,979,011 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | And you all dont have the ability to go out and research things like the MOVA technology or the separation of the coal |
2,979,028 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | OK Mr Bear do you think the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission as it is currently constructed is an ally or an obstacle to getting to 100 percent clean energy and are there reforms you would suggest |
2,979,031 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | I touched on some of those in my testimony where we need to rethink how we think about the electric energy how we think about reliability in terms of using just basic capacity as a homogenous commodity |
2,979,046 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | But creating opportunities for resources on the customer side of the meter to play both in the ancillary services markets but also to face moreexcuse metime differentiated prices that will help accommodate the variable renewables will be important |
2,979,048 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | And Ms Palmer there has been a lot of talk about electric vehicles especially on the other side about maybe they are not as great as other options |
2,979,050 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | Did you want to maybe have a little more time to explain why electric vehicles are worth investing in |
2,979,053 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | Well I think that there is sort of a simultaneous movement that is happening in the energy systems |
2,979,054 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | And one is moving towards a largely decarbonized electricity sector the goals that the committee has set forth in this discussion |
2,979,055 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | And part of thatpart of what is going to happen there is the introduction of more intermittent renewables |
2,979,056 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | Andbut also it is become increasingly important as we have had substantial success in decarbonizing the electricity sector relative to past is the transportation sector is becoming a larger share of carbon emissions |
2,979,057 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | And so there may be various alternative ways to get to a decarbonized transportation system but a lot of modeling suggests that electrification of transport and buildings under current cost conditions and expected cost improvements is going to be the way to do that |
2,979,058 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | And so making it possible to electrify vehiclesa they are highly efficient and b you are getting rid of not only carbon emissions but also other emissions associated with vehicle operations that are important |
2,979,061 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | When I served on a city council one of the popular policy options for power communities was to purchase clean energy solutions with something called CCAs Community Choice Aggregation providers |
2,979,062 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | This allows local governments to purchase cleaner electricity from alternative suppliers on behalf of residents and businesses |
2,979,065 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | Can you speak to the role that CCAs could have nationally in accelerating our country to 100 percent clean energy |
2,979,068 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | I think opportunities for communities to increase their ability to choose clean energy can have an important role in taking advantage of you know the cost reductions I talked about that clean energy is really now the most affordable resource on the grid |
2,979,070 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | I think you knownot to steal Mr Mathesons thunder but certainly we see cooperatives places like Holy Cross Energy in Colorado that are really taking advantage of technology in that way to work one on one with their consumers that are asking them for this and make these kinds of changes |
2,979,080 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | And I am hoping that when we develop this plan of going 100 percent by 2050 we are taking a look at the energy grid how can we avoid this and making sure we are holding those accountable who are not investing in proper maintenance and under investment |
2,979,092 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | As we all know and I am sure you have been discussing this today to avoid the worst effects of the climate crisis we have to cut carbon emissions in half by 2030 and then to net zero by 2050 |
2,979,093 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | And so while I have been talking to Xcel Energy and lots of other people about this we know we need to eliminate the carbon emissions but we dont yet have the full technology to do that to a zero percent |
2,979,094 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | Wind and solar are critical and we need to increase their use dramatically |
2,979,096 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | And so I think we all agree we need innovation and technology to provide the reliable electricity that we have come to expect |
2,979,099 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | But what it doespart of what it does is it encourages the development of the widest possible array of technologies to produce emissionfree electricity |
2,979,100 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | And it sets us on a course to having affordable reliable and 100 percent emissionfree electricity by 2050 |
2,979,102 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | Mr Dennis I wanted to ask you since spurring innovation is the goal of this hearing and also of my bill I wanted to ask you about some of the advances that we have had in energy technology that have helped bring down the cost of solar and wind energy |
2,979,108 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | DOE had a lothad and has a longtime effort around wind and solar as well |
2,979,116 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | So what I want to ask as we try to develop these technologies in the next few decades is it fair to expect that new clean energy technologies will be invented in time to bring us this affordable reliable net zero electricity by 2050 without a change in Federal policy |
2,979,124 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | Dr Palmer the legislation I have been working on would in among other things establish a clean energy standard that gradually increases until we are generating 100 percent of our electricity using zero emitting technologies |
2,979,125 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | And so what it does is it is designed to reward investment in clean energy technologies without adding to the size of the Government |
2,979,126 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | And I would like to ask you it is my understanding that a clean energy standard by its design would help keep electricity prices low compared with other carbon pricing mechanisms |
2,979,130 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | So traditionally approachesapproaches that apply a direct price on carbon are going to create a source of revenue and that will pass through in the effect that it has on consumer prices of electricity as long as that revenue is not used to offset the increase in electricity rates |
2,979,131 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | So a clean energy standard on the other hand provides an incentive to produce electricity from clean sources by rewarding that and creating a demand for that attribute in a marketplace |
2,979,132 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | And so that will have a lower impact on electricity prices |
2,979,133 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | And you know with the carbon pricing approach often it has been proposed that the money be dividend back to households |
2,979,135 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | But a clean energy standard would make a more broadbased mitigation of that impact |
2,979,140 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | So I wanted to ask you Mr Izzo and Anderson briefly if we seek to foster clean energy innovation without giving power companies a reason to deploy technologies do you think they will be adopted universally in time to bring the emissions to net zero by 2050 |
2,979,146 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | And that would be true in a renewable world as well |
2,979,166 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | Just spoke to my Michigan bankers and they said lets keep the energy on and any way we can power to our rural areas that is great |
2,979,169 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | Mr Anderson in your testimony you mention the UWUAs Power for America Training Trust P4A and its partnership that we have I appreciate the fact thatwith Consumers Energy in my district in achieving the first Department of Laborcertified apprenticeship program in renewable energy |
2,979,172 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | I hope we do the research necessary to make sure that we keep all of that base energy there but we have to expand and develop as well |
2,979,176 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | It supplies skills for the future as well as the presentwind solar better technologies energy sectors as well as present sector |
2,979,178 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | Can you elaborate a bit more on the demand for skilled trade training to meet the needs of our everchanging energy sector |
2,979,182 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | We train people to do everything from climb utility poles to work on gas appliances and now how to build and operate brandnew technologies |
2,979,187 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | We are also looking to expand what we do in wind energy to not just be onshore wind farms but also as offshore towers are built we want to train people apprentices to go out and work on those towers as well |
2,979,192 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | So we are using that program and programs that we want to build like that to evolve our workforce evolve our training programs and adapt to the changing energy systems |
2,979,214 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | I think it is clear that our Nations energy grid needs to be resilient and there is a real concern that it wont be if we dont plan carefully |
2,979,215 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | Can the three of you give me your perspective on how the transmission grid needs to change to support these significant changes in the power system |
2,979,221 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | I think that in looking at the grid we are doing a lot of studies now to understand at different levels of renewable penetration what the implications are |
2,979,226 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | And then third we have got to look at the transmission system itself because I think the grid needs to be much different to balance much morelarger penetrations of renewables as we go forward |
2,979,232 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | Our electric gridwhile it is aging we havent invested enoughit is actually functioning remarkably well |
2,979,245 | 2019-10-30T00:00:00 | 116-77 | I would just point out that it should not be the burden of the utility consumer or the transmission owners to create the infrastructure that are needed to connect the renewables to load centers |
2,979,279 | 2019-05-08T00:00:00 | 116-31 | Energy and Commerce Democrats feel we have an obligation to provide a solid piece of legislation that protects consumer privacy |
2,979,298 | 2019-05-08T00:00:00 | 116-31 | Energy and Commerce Democrats feel we have an obligation to produce a solid piece of legislation that protects consumer privacy |
2,979,613 | 2019-05-08T00:00:00 | 116-31 | From the growth of the internet to the mobile device explosion to the arrival of the Internet of Things and artificial intelligence we have continuously expanded our focus on privacy to reflect how consumer data fuels these changes in the marketplace |
2,979,775 | 2019-05-08T00:00:00 | 116-31 | First we need to look at the circumstances that these contracts are imposed and whether one side has more power information or leverage |
2,980,084 | 2019-05-08T00:00:00 | 116-31 | One of the issues we are wrestling with as the Energy and Commerce Committee and looking at something nationwide do you all support a Federal preemption of existing State laws or can privacy work on a StatebyState patchwork basis |
2,980,143 | 2019-05-08T00:00:00 | 116-31 | The more variability that you have the less transparency the less consumer power |
2,980,912 | 2019-05-08T00:00:00 | 116-31 | But recent Federal court decisions put the FTCs power to get compensation for consumers at a serious risk particularly in cases where the company has stopped violating the law |
2,980,979 | 2019-05-08T00:00:00 | 116-31 | Just like in privacy legislation where you are thinking about civil penalties to deter this conduct Congress gave the FTC the power to activate penalties for made in USA violations 25 years ago |
2,980,999 | 2019-05-08T00:00:00 | 116-31 | And while I am not on the subcommittee certainly I have an interest in being a member of the Energy and Commerce Committee |
2,981,639 | 2019-05-23T00:00:00 | 116-39 | Since 1970 the Center has been the Nations premier independent nonprofit advocacy organization focused on auto safety quality and fuel economy |
2,981,732 | 2019-05-23T00:00:00 | 116-39 | And for instance if on your way to work you know you have opened that back door you go and you stop for gas and you dont open that back door when you arrive at work you will not get that notification |
2,981,848 | 2019-05-23T00:00:00 | 116-39 | I just hope and pray that we as representatives of the people of the peoples House will do our job and to show the amount of strength and the responsibility and the energy and the time that we and our staffs should put forth to make these solutions more real as quickly as possible |
2,981,871 | 2019-05-23T00:00:00 | 116-39 | It goes to energy efficiency being green |
2,981,941 | 2019-05-23T00:00:00 | 116-39 | And I understand that JD Power in 2015 the study said that consumers are willing to pay for safety features but up to a certain limit |
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