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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | They both conclude that the hard problem of consciousness | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:13:52.800 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | is BS. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:13:55.160 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | On one hand, you have some people like Daniel Dennett | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:13:56.840 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | who say that consciousness is just BS | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:13:59.320 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | because consciousness is the same thing as intelligence. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:14:01.480 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | There's no difference. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:14:05.000 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | So anything which acts conscious is conscious, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:14:06.440 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | just like we are. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:14:11.080 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | And then there are also a lot of people, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:14:13.480 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | including many top AI researchers I know, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:14:15.960 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | who say, oh, consciousness is just bullshit | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:14:18.400 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | because, of course, machines can never be conscious. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:14:19.920 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | They're always going to be zombies. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:14:22.760 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | You never have to feel guilty about how you treat them. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:14:24.520 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | And then there's a third group of people, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:14:27.880 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | including Giulio Tononi, for example, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:14:30.880 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | and Krzysztof Koch and a number of others. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:14:34.920 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | I would put myself also in this middle camp | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:14:37.440 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | who say that actually some information processing | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:14:39.520 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | is conscious and some is not. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:14:41.880 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | So let's find the equation which can be used | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:14:44.160 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | to determine which it is. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:14:46.960 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | And I think we've just been a little bit lazy, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:14:49.080 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | kind of running away from this problem for a long time. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:14:52.040 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | It's been almost taboo to even mention the C word | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:14:54.960 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | in a lot of circles because, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:14:57.840 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | but we should stop making excuses. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:15:00.520 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | This is a science question and there are ways | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:15:03.520 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | we can even test any theory that makes predictions for this. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:15:07.920 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | And coming back to this helper robot, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:15:11.960 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | I mean, so you said you'd want your helper robot | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:15:13.640 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | to certainly act conscious and treat you, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:15:16.080 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | like have conversations with you and stuff. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:15:18.160 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | I think so. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:15:20.880 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | But wouldn't you, would you feel, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:15:21.720 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | would you feel a little bit creeped out | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:15:22.560 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | if you realized that it was just a glossed up tape recorder, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:15:23.920 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | you know, that was just zombie and was a faking emotion? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:15:27.680 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | Would you prefer that it actually had an experience | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:15:31.560 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | or would you prefer that it's actually | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:15:34.560 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | not experiencing anything so you feel, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:15:37.000 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | you don't have to feel guilty about what you do to it? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:15:39.120 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | It's such a difficult question because, you know, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:15:42.200 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | it's like when you're in a relationship and you say, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:15:45.040 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | well, I love you. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:15:47.280 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | And the other person said, I love you back. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:15:48.120 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | It's like asking, well, do they really love you back | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:15:49.760 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | or are they just saying they love you back? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:15:52.640 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | Don't you really want them to actually love you? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:15:55.360 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | It's hard to, it's hard to really know the difference | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:15:58.120 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | between everything seeming like there's consciousness | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:16:03.520 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | present, there's intelligence present, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:16:09.000 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | there's affection, passion, love, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:16:10.640 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | and it actually being there. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:16:13.840 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | I'm not sure, do you have? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:16:16.200 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | But like, can I ask you a question about this? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:16:17.720 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | Like to make it a bit more pointed. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:16:19.400 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | So Mass General Hospital is right across the river, right? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:16:20.760 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | Yes. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:16:22.920 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | Suppose you're going in for a medical procedure | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:16:23.760 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | and they're like, you know, for anesthesia, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:16:26.720 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | what we're going to do is we're going to give you | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:16:29.320 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | muscle relaxants so you won't be able to move | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:16:31.000 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | and you're going to feel excruciating pain | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:16:33.160 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | during the whole surgery, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:16:35.040 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | but you won't be able to do anything about it. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:16:35.880 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | But then we're going to give you this drug | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:16:37.600 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | that erases your memory of it. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:16:39.200 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | Would you be cool about that? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:16:41.960 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | What's the difference that you're conscious about it | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:16:44.960 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | or not if there's no behavioral change, right? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:16:48.600 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | Right, that's a really, that's a really clear way to put it. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:16:51.640 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | That's, yeah, it feels like in that sense, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:16:54.520 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | experiencing it is a valuable quality. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:16:57.400 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | So actually being able to have subjective experiences, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:17:01.080 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | at least in that case, is valuable. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:17:05.840 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | And I think we humans have a little bit | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:17:09.120 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | of a bad track record also of making | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:17:11.240 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | these self serving arguments | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:17:13.600 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | that other entities aren't conscious. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:17:15.480 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | You know, people often say, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:17:18.040 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | oh, these animals can't feel pain. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:17:19.160 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | It's okay to boil lobsters because we ask them | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:17:21.800 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | if it hurt and they didn't say anything. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:17:24.040 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | And now there was just a paper out saying, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:17:25.960 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | lobsters do feel pain when you boil them | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:17:27.400 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | and they're banning it in Switzerland. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:17:29.320 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | And we did this with slaves too often and said, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:17:31.040 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | oh, they don't mind. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:17:33.560 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | They don't maybe aren't conscious | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:17:36.240 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | or women don't have souls or whatever. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:17:39.480 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | So I'm a little bit nervous when I hear people | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:17:41.160 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | just take as an axiom that machines | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:17:43.200 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | can't have experience ever. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:17:46.360 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | I think this is just a really fascinating science question | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:17:48.960 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | is what it is. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:17:51.560 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | Let's research it and try to figure out | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:17:52.400 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | what it is that makes the difference | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:17:54.720 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | between unconscious intelligent behavior | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:17:56.000 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | and conscious intelligent behavior. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:17:58.880 |