Deasbaireachd a' chleachdaiche:Lunnainn

Hi Lunnainn,
Thanks a lot for adding the 8000th article to the Gaelic Wikipedia! Le deagh dhùrachdan --Sionnach 22:02, 27 an t-Sultain 2010 (UTC)
Hey Sionnach - No problem, just doing my bit for Gàidhlig :-)  28 an t-Sultain 2010
Lunnainn

Hi Lunnainn, We would like to invite all contributors to take part in the debate to find an appropriate Gaelic form for Wikipedia that doesn't break any rules regarding phonology, intellegibility or forming good neologism. We'd like to invite views/votes from all users here as we'd like to get broad consensus. The debate is here: Name change and - since it involves quite a few technical issues - in English. --Sionnach 20:41, 23 dhen Dùbhlachd 2010 (UTC)


Deasbaireachd a' chleachdaiche:MerlLinkBot

Can you help me tranlating the edit summaries of my bot for gdwiki?
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* bot=Bot:
* summary_replace_deadlink=replacing dead link {0} with {1}
* summary_update_deadlink=repairing dead link {0}
* summary_replace_outdated=replacing outdated link {0} with {1}
* summary_update_outdaded=repairing outdated link {0}
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* bot=Bot:
* summary_replace_deadlink=Ersetze defekten Weblink {0} durch {1}
* summary_update_deadlink=Repariere defekten Weblink {0}
* summary_replace_outdated=Ersetze veralteten Weblink {0} durch {1}
* summary_update_outdated=Repariere veralteten Weblink {0}

"replace" is used if the domain has changed, "update" if the domain stays the same

"outdated" is used if the url is still available but will be switched off soon, "deadlink" if the url is already unreachable.

{0} and {1} are placeholders for the domain name(s)
Merlissimo 18:37, 3 dhen t-Samhain 2010 (UTC)
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Deasbaireachd:Beanntan Sierra Nevada

Chan eil mi am beachd gur e beanntan an eadar-theangachadh as
fheàrr air Sierra. Nach bitheadh monadh nas fheàrr? Eoghan 04:31, 28 dhen Dùbhlachd 2010 (UTC)

Is dòcha gu bheil e nas fheàrr an duilleag seo a' gluasad chun an ainm tùsail cò-dhiù, m.e.  "Sierra Nevada" no "Sierra Nevada (Beanntan)" no "Sierra Nevada (Monadh)" no rudeigin mar sin . Air sgàth 's nach eil mi buileach cinnteach mun diofair eadar beanntan is monadh sa Gàidhlig, dèan sin a-rèir do thoil. --Sionnach 08:25, 29 dhen Dùbhlachd 2010 (UTC)


Deasbaireachd:Barack Obama

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Ĉu oni pov'us al'don'i detal'o'j'n pri la afer'o je la disput'o pri la lok'o de nask'iĝ'o de Barack Obama, bon'vol'u ? Li fin'is per liver'i li'a'n nask'iĝ'atest'o'n por montr'i li'a'n nask'iĝ'lok'o'n sur la Uson'a ter'o...2A01:CB0C:38C:9F00:7447:82BF:CF79:66CA 21:23, 19 dhen Ghearran 2021 (UTC)


Deasbaireachd a' chleachdaiche:RHaworth

You may get a faster response at :en:User_talk:RHaworth.

You have changed a lot of map links to use a template which says "mapa a' bhaile", when many of the articles are clearly not bailtean at all. --Vclaw 23:57, 22 dhen Fhaoilleach 2011 (UTC)
* I am very sorry, I do not have the Gaelic. Please tell me what "mapa a' bhaile" means and then change template:gbmappingsmall to the Gaelic version of "map sources" or even to "map sources for grid reference }". RHaworth 00:05, 23 dhen Fhaoilleach 2011 (UTC)
* In the English Wikipedia, :en:template:gbmappingsmall is just the grid ref and link - for use in tables and the like - and :en:template:gbmapping is the longer version. I have created template:gbmapping and shall use that in future. — RHaworth 00:13, 23 dhen Fhaoilleach 2011 (UTC)

: 'baile' is town/village etc, so "mapa a' bhaile" would be something like "map of the town". I don't know if its worth having a template to specifically say that? I shall see if I can figure out something Gaelic for "map sources for grid reference". --Vclaw 01:04, 23 dhen Fhaoilleach 2011 (UTC)
* Worth having a template to specifically say town. I would say definitely not. The article establishes what type of feature it is about. To repeat that in the template is redundant. RHaworth 01:07, 23 dhen Fhaoilleach 2011 (UTC)

Sguir dheth “delete”  a chur ris na dealbhan. Chan eil riaghailt sam bith far a bheilear  ag ràdh gum feumar a h-uile leth-breacan a dubhadh às.  Mar a thuirt mi roimhe tha fàilte ort gur cuideachadh leis na teamplaidean is an stuth teicneòlas eile ceangailte ris na dealbhan, ach an-dràsta tha na mùthaidhean agad gun fheum sam bith. --Sionnach 22:53, 27 dhen Fhaoilleach 2011 (UTC)
* I am very sorry, I do not have the Gaelic. I could probably manage German but English is preferred. RHaworth 22:56, 27 dhen Fhaoilleach 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but that is your problem, this is the Gaelic Wikipedia. So I would suggest that you learn this language, or do your clean up in for example :en:Category:Wikipedia files with the same name on Wikimedia Commons. --Sionnach 23:01, 27 dhen Fhaoilleach 2011 (UTC)
* A significant difference between the files here and on the English Wikipedia is that those in en: all have proper source and licence tags. Uploads that do not are deleted within hours. The best I can offer you is that I will stick to my original plan of dealing with Geograph images and leave the rest to you. And I have already cleaned up :en:Category:Images of the Geograph British Isles project! — RHaworth 23:16, 27 dhen Fhaoilleach 2011 (UTC)
* Incidentally, credit where it is due: as far as your Geograph uploads go, you have at least clearly identified the source of each image. Which is more than can be said for the majority of images here. RHaworth 23:20, 27 dhen Fhaoilleach 2011 (UTC)

:Thanks for at least giving me credit for that, I was trying to set an example to show others that sources have to go with the image. But as I said before, we still have a lack of technical knowlegde here. I'll see what I can do about licence and stuff like that, but this takes time, as I'm  doing this in my spare time and there are a few more jobs to be done around here as well.

:But concerning the Images of the Geograph British Isles project, please show me the rule, where its written that they must be transfered to Commons only. Maybe this is a rule on WP:en only? I know, that it is not a "must" to delete all duplicates, only a "should". I'll raise this matter to the community as it is their decision.--Sionnach 23:47, 27 dhen Fhaoilleach 2011 (UTC)
* I agree it is "should" not "must". But if someone has transferred them to the Commons, what earthly reason is there to keep them here? See this discussion and especially the last comment: "there's no valid reason to maintain local copies of Commons files. Just makes more work for everyone". And that was for an image where there is genuine doubt about the copyright status. With Geograph images there is no such doubt. Incidentally, please see the previous section here. Could you spare a moment to go to template:gbmappingsmall and change it to the Gaelic equivalent of Map sources for grid reference . — RHaworth 01:12, 28 dhen Fhaoilleach 2011 (UTC)

Interesting discussion you linked above, as it says also: "even if the Commons version were unproblematic, we're still allowed to keep local copies". As this is not the English Wikipedia, I raised the matter at our community portal to see how the other user think about it. As this may take a while (the gaelic Wiki is kind of slow on discussions like this) I would strongly recommend not to tag any more images with "delete" in the meantime.

I translated template:gbmappingsmall now (thanks for adding it). Could you please add a brief explanation on its talk page about a quick and easy way how to find the correct grid references for each location? Usually I use geolocator for coordinates, but it doesn't show the grid references.--Sionnach 12:31, 28 dhen Fhaoilleach 2011 (UTC)

... is running to fast. Please have a look at the Bot policy.--Sionnach 07:09, 20 dhen Ghearrain 2011 (UTC)


Deasbaireachd:Baile a' Chaolais

The present image is little bigger than a thumbnail. Unfortunately the alternatives are not much better. RHaworth 23:26, 26 dhen Fhaoilleach 2011 (UTC)


Deasbaireachd na teamplaid:Gbmappingsmall

In parallel with the same templates on en:, the idea is that gbmapping should say "Iomraidhean nam mapaichean airson comharradh-clèithe: NS572519" and gbmappingsmall should just say "NS572519". The latter being for use in tables and the like, eg Template:Bogsa-fiosrachaidh Alba. Unfortunately, I created a number of usages of gbmappingsmall which require the "Iomraidhean nam mapaichean airson comharradh-clèithe" - currently it is the 40 or so pages which use gbmappingsmall directly. Once they have been fixed, the two templates can be simplified. Template:Gbmapping 03:07, 29 dhen Fhaoilleach 2011 (UTC)
All the above now fixed. The following are currently the only things that use gbmappingsmall directly. Everything else uses gbmapping.
* :File:Eilean MoLaise 10A192.jpg
* Template:Bogsa-fiosrachaidh Alba
* Template:Gbmapping
— RHaworth (talk · contribs)  20:33, 29 dhen Fhaoilleach 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I tried to add Gbmappingsmall to Template:Baile, which is the most used template for towns. The result isn't very satisfying at the moment, see: Dùn Dèagh, I guess I did something wrong, as I'm not an expert on writing complicated templates. Any idee of fixing this? --Sionnach 21:39, 29 dhen Fhaoilleach 2011 (UTC)
Fixed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs)  23:51, 30 dhen Fhaoilleach 2011 (UTC)


Deasbaireachd a' chleachdaiche:Kilburn~gdwiki

Halò, Kilburn, math d' fhaicinn an-seo agus tha sinn toilichte fhaicinn cuideachd gu bheil thu cho gnìomhach air Uicipeid na Gàidhlig! Ma bhios ceist sam bith agad, tha sinn deiseil is deònach do chuideachadh.
Aon rud beag 's dòcha. Mhothaich mi gu bheil thu cruthachadh iomadh aiste air daoine beò. Bhiodh e beagan na b' fhearr nam b' urra dhut tùsan a chleachdadh o thùs (leabhar no rud mar sin, fiù ma chleachdas tu an dearbh fheadhainn a th' air Uicipeid na Beurla). Mur eil thu cinnteach mar a nì thu sin, cuir sùil air duilleagan mar Iain Noble no cuir ceist orm-sa.
A-rithist, fàilte chridheil ort! Akerbeltz 02:36, 14 dhen Ghearrain 2011 (UTC)
HalòAkerbeltz, tapadh leibh for your kind welcome! I must admit I am only learning Gàidhlig and I thought it would be good practise for me if I used it here Uicipeid, by creating articles, etc. I understand you are saying there is something wrong with the biographies I have created? If I'm making too many mistakes, let me know and I'll return when my Gàidhlig is a bit better
Kilburn

No, it's pefectly Ok for you to contribute. I was simply suggesting you might want to add at least one reference for each biography. Biographies of living people can be a bit contentious so it's always best to pepper them with as many source references as possible and I suggested you look at Iain Noble's page - or any page that has a ref really for how that works. In this case, you can even just copy and paste the references from the English Wiki. It just keeps things tidy.

The other point I'd suggest in that case, if you're creating stubs on living people, that we perhaps work out a formula. Some of your sentences were slightly off but if you stuck to something like 'S e [profession] [nationality] a tha ann an [name] that would work well. Here's a few other phrases that might come in handy:

*Rugadh e/i ann an [year of birth] agus chaochail e/i ann an [year of death]

*Tha e/i ainmeil a thaobh [something]

*Rinn e/i na filmichean/òrain a leanas: [plus a list]

*Bha e/i anns na filmichean/òrain/[etc] a leanas: [plus a list]

It might just be a way of fleshing out the particular kind of article you're working on. I can also recommend that you perhaps use Firefox and install the Gaelic spellchecker? You haven't made any typos that I can see so far but prevention is always good :)

Agus a-rithst, fàilte do dh'Uicipeid na Gàidhlig! Akerbeltz 14:03, 14 dhen Ghearrain 2011 (UTC)

:Halò Kilburn, fàilte bhuam-sa cuideachd! As Akerbeltz already said, being a learner shouldn't keep you away from contributing here, Uicipeid na Gàidhlig is a good way to improve your Gaelic. And you are doing great be adding categories, pictures an interwikilinks as well. Just to add a little bit more to the articles would give the reader some more information, may be a list of his/her famous works as you can see it Patrick Swayze now. Le dùrachdan --Sionnach 22:14, 14 dhen Ghearrain 2011 (UTC)
Halò Sionnach, tapadh leibh cuideachd! I'll try and flesh out the articles I created a bit. If I create a few and don't write a lot on them, don't worry, I'll come back to them at a later date.
Kilburn

Best way to sign is by four squiggles ~ ~ ~ ~ (without the spaces) - that automatically puts in time, date etc. :) Akerbeltz 01:01, 16 dhen Ghearrain 2011 (UTC)

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Deasbaireachd:An Roinn Charaibeach

Shionnaich, saoil am biodh tu an aghaidh Muir nan Caraib agus cuideachd an dà alt a chur ri chèile? Tha Cairibìan a' briseadh uiread a riaghailtean na Gàidhlig? Cuideachd, chan eil diofar mòr eadar Caribbean agus The Caribbean Sea agus tha iomadh cànan ann nach eil 'gan dealachadh. Akerbeltz 10:59, 21 dhen Chèitean 2011 (UTC)

PS Bhithinn toilichte le Am Muir Caraibeach cuideachd. Ma tha sinn airson an dà dhuilleag a ghlèidheadh, dè mu dhèidhinn An Roinn Charaibeach? Akerbeltz 11:01, 21 dhen Chèitean 2011 (UTC)

:B' fheàrr leam fhìn ma bhios dà aiste ann, tha Muir Cairibianach a' dèiligeadh leis a' mhuir mar phàirt dhen chuan agus an tè eile leis a' mhòr-roinn. Ach tha thu ceart, rinn mi sgrios air ainm na h-aiste, cha do lorg mi eadar-theangachadh sam bith mu "Caribbean" aig an àm ud. Bhithinn gu math toilichte le Am Muir Caraibeach airson na mara agus le An Roinn Charaibeach an àite "A' Chairibìan".--Sionnach 21:34, 21 dhen Chèitean 2011 (UTC)

::Taghta! Tha mi duilich gu bheil mi thogail uiread a dheasbad mu ainmean nan alt :/ Tha mi dol tro na roinnean-seòrsa an-dràsta agus tha mi tighinn thairis air iomadh fear a b' fheairrde a chur air gleus. Akerbeltz 10:58, 22 dhen Chèitean 2011 (UTC)


Deasbaireachd a' chleachdaiche:85.54.141.104

Hallo 's fàilte dhan Uicipeid. Mòran taing son pàirt a ghabhail ann ach saoil an cuimhnich thu gur e seo an Uicipeid Ghàidhlig agus gum bu chòir dhut fiù oidhirp a dhèanamh air Gàidhlig a chur air artagailean Gaeilge? Mòran taing. Akerbeltz 10:59, 29 dhen Chèitean 2011 (UTC)


Deasbaireachd:BBC Raidió Uladh

Bheil thu cinnteach mun ainm seo? Chan fhaic mise ainm Gàidhlig no Gaeilge àite sam bith. Agus chan eil sinn a' cleachdadh "Rèidio a h-Aon" a bharrachd agus fiù nam biodh, 's e "Rèidio Ulaidh" a bhiodh ann, nach biodh? Akerbeltz 18:52, 30 dhen Chèitean 2011 (UTC)

Tha! *http://www.flickr.com/photos/deaglan1/5143742611/
*http://www.bbc.co.uk/irish/articles/view/1207/gaeilge/Eog1916 17:34, 5 dhen Ògmhios 2011 (UTC)

:Ok taing airson sin! Akerbeltz 22:16, 10 dhen Ògmhios 2011 (UTC)


Deasbaireachd:Artur Balder

Sugested protection of the article.
A Dutch user, http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:MoiraMoira, is aabusing with vandalism all the trasnlations of the subject Artur Balder.
In some wp, her actions have been deleted after review of local administrators.
http://eo.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Artur_Balder&action=history
Those are the facts:
The article Artur Balder was voted to be kept at the English wp after review of the references
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artur_Balder
After that, some translation of this article, well done by native in other wp, were uploaded. She is still deleting them under the excuse: "cross wp spam", and indeed they are translation of an accepted wp well referenced article.
Im looking for penalties at the local wp because of pure vandalism done by http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:MoiraMoira
--Lolox76 23:20, 26 dhen Iuchar 2011 (UTC)

Attention: Artur Balder article is being destroyed by a Dutch user with cross wp vandalism


Deasbaireachd:Aibidil Gaidhleach

Nach e anns a' Ghàidhlig na h-Èireann a sgrìobhar an duilleag seo? Sectori 02:19, 30 dhen Iuchar 2011 (UTC)


Deasbaireachd a' chleachdaiche:Morag

Chan eil càil ann fhathast.

Hi a Mhòrag, math d' fhaicinn an-seo agus gu bheil thu trang a' deasachadh mu thràth. Ma bhios ceist sam bith agad, cha leig thu leas ach faighneachd!
Eadar dà sgeul, cha leig thu leas còd html a chleachdadh airson stràcan leithid à, tha an uicipeid glè thoilichte dìreach leis na litrichean fhèin. leis na dùrachdan Akerbeltz 19:18, 25 dhen Lùnastal 2011 (UTC)

Tapadh leat. Tha mi fhathast ag ionnsachadh Uicipeid, ach tha mi toilichte gu bheil e an seo ann an Gàidhlig. Tha mi gu math toilichte a chluintinn nach eil feum agam air còd HTML a chleachadh airson sràcan! Taing cuideachd airson duilleag "meatailt throm" a ghluasad. Cha robh mi cinnteach ciamar a rinn e. -- Morag 19:35, 25 dhen Lùnastal 2011 (UTC)

:'S e do bheatha! Gluaisidh tu duilleag leis an triantan beag ri taobh na rionnaige gu h-àrd. Mar is trice, tha e modhail faighneachd air duilleag na deasbaireachd ma tha thu airson duilleag a ghluasad gu ainm eile, can "An t-Sèapan" > "Iapàn" ach ma tha mearachd san ainm, 's urra dhut a ghluasad co-dhiù.

:Gàidhlig agus IT ... 's mi tha toilichte gu bheil daoine eile ann a tha gnìomhach san raon sin. O, rud gu tur eadar-dhealaichte, tha radio nan gaidheal airson agallamh reideo a chumail mun Uicipeid an ath sheachdain. Tha iad fhathast ag iarraidh barrachd dhaoine. Tha fhios agam gu bheil thu dìreach air tòiseachadh ach bhiodh e fìor mhath le bogag (newbie) ann. Ma tha ùidh agad ann idir, cuir post-d gu Victoria ag victoria.kilgour@bbc.co.uk ok? Akerbeltz 22:40, 25 dhen Lùnastal 2011 (UTC)
Hi, a Mhòrag, fàilte bhuamsa cuideachd. Abair cho trang a tha thu, tha thu a' dèanamh glè mhath.
Chunnaic mi gun do chruthaich thu roinn-seòrsa ùr: :Category:Aimeireaganaich. Saoil dè mu dheidhinn na daoine à Canada no Aimeireaga a Deas? Is dòcha gum bhiodh roinn-seòrsa mar "Daoine às na Stàitean Aonaichte" nas soilleire? Dè do bheachd?
Agus rudeigin eile: Chan fhaod tu  a chur ris na h-aistean agad,  tha iad fada nas fheàrr na an stuth àbhaisteach, m.e.:A' Chàrnaich. Co-dhiù, ma bhios ceist sam bith agad, cuir fios thugam. Le deagh dhùrachdan--Sionnach 20:02, 26 dhen Lùnastal 2011 (UTC)

Hi a Shionnach

Tapadh leat airson fiosrachadh. Tha thu ceart gu leòr mu dheidhinn roinn-seòrsa "Aimerieganaich" gu dearbh. Càit a bheil an duilleag-coimhearsneachd ceart airson deasbaireachd cuspair mar seo?

Gluaisidh mi na duilleagan le  orra cho luath 's a tha mi.

--Morag 20:20, 26 dhen Lùnastal 2011 (UTC)

:Na gabh dragh! Tha mi toilichte gu bheil thu ag iarraidh siostam Uici a thuigsinn.  Mholainn Uicipeid:Doras na coimhearsnachd airson deasbaireachd mu chuspair sam bith.

:A thaobh an roinn-seòrsa: Tha category-tree ann, faic :Category:Bunaiteach, gu h-àraidh  :Category:Daoine agus :Category:Eòlas.

:Airson roinn-seòrsa ùr a chur anns an àite ceart, dìreach cuir an roinn-seòrsa as àirde ris.(m. e. Category:Daoine agus Category:na Stàitean Anonaichte). Agus airson seann roinn-seòrsa a sguabadh às, cur  ris. Feuch e:-)--Sionnach 20:59, 26 dhen Lùnastal 2011 (UTC)


Deasbaireachd:COSMOnot

Bu chòir dhuinn fhàgail ann. Chan e breug a th' ann, bha e dol aig àm agus tha iris no dhà agam am badeigin. Akerbeltz 12:31, 25 dhen Dàmhair 2011 (UTC)

Chaidh duilleag CosmoNOT a chruthachadh cuideachd. Dè an dòigh as fheàrr an cur còmhla? Thisissusanbell (an deasbaireachd) 13:13, 19 dhen Lùnastal 2014 (UTC)

Mòran taing airson sin, chuir mi an dà còmhla. --Sionnach (an deasbaireachd) 19:56, 19 dhen Lùnastal 2014 (UTC)


Deasbaireachd:Fadag

Cha bu chòir dhan alt seo a bhith an-seo. Chan eil am facal fadag ceart idir agus, gu tur nas miosa, chan eil sgeul air ann am faclair sam bith no fiù sna leabhraichean againn air reul-eòlas (can am fear le Donnchadh M Conall). Akerbeltz 19:10, 24 dhen Fhaoilleach 2012 (UTC)

:Chaidh mi dhan eachdraidh agus lorg mi seo: chaidh Fadag a chruthachadh ann an 2006; chaidh Saideal nàdarrach a chruthachadh ann an 2007 gu neo-eisimealach; agus ann an 2008, chaidh na bha anns an t-Saideal nàdarrach a ghluasad gu Fadag agus SN fhèin a thionndadh gu ath-threòrachadh , . Bhithinn airson an seann teacsa a leasachadh 's a thilleadh dhan SN, m.e. mar seo:

::Is e oibseact reul-eòlasach nach eil air a dhèanamh le mac an duine a tha a' cuartachadh planaid no ball eile a tha ann an saideal nàdarrach no gealach. Gu sìmplidh, tha planaidean a' cuartachadh reultan agus saidealan nàdarrach/gealaichean a' cuartachadh planaidean.

:agus Fadag a thionndadh dha ath-threòrachadh dhan SN. Air neo Saideal (reul-eòlas) a chruthachadh leis an teacsa sin agus SN is Fadag ath-threòrachadh ann. --Thrissel 19:39, 26 dhen Fhaoilleach 2012 (UTC)


Deasbaireachd:Bùdachas

Rinn mi an duilleag seo, ach a-nis, chan eil mi nis cinnteach gu bheil an t-aimh ceart againn an seo.  Bu toil leam beachdan a chluinntinn bho chàch.  'S a' chiad dol-a-mach, creididh mi gu bheil an t-earball ceàrr.  Bu chòir "achas" a bhith ann, a' leantainn a' phàtrain:
* bròn → brònach → brònachas
* cead → ceadach → ceadachas
* dlighe → dligheach → dligheachas
* toil → toileach → toileachas
... agus mar sin air adhart.  Buddha → Buddhach (neach-leantainn neo buadhair) → Buddhachas (ainm na feallsanachd neo a' chreidimh).  Seo mar a th' aig na h-Èireannaich cuideachd.
'S e an darna ceist, dè cruth ainm a' Buddha fhèin?  Chì mi gun tèid mòran chànanan le tar-litreachadh, m.e. na h-Èireannaich: Búda.
Mar sin, an e 'Bùdachas' a bu chòir a bhith ann?--Lasairdhubh 14:08, 25 dhen Fhaoilleach 2012 (UTC)

Mòran taing son an cuireadh! Chanainn gu bheil Buddha ceart gu leòr mar a tha e, tha Búda car OTT 'nam bheachd-sa. 'S e ainm pearsanta, well, seòrsa de dh'ainm pearsanta th' ann mar Stalin > Stalinism, Thatcher > Thatcherism.

Tha thu ceart gu bheil -(e)as 'ga chleachdadh gu tric airson abstract nouns mar an fheadhainn gu h-àrd ach air adhbhar air choireigin, tha -(e)achd cumanta a thaobh chreideamhan, cf Iùdhachd "Judaism" agus Crìostaidheachd agus tha iad fiù sna faclairean fìor aosta. Leis a sin, chanainn-sa gu bheil -achd cgl ach 's e an -as a bharrachd a tha neònach. Buddhachd no Buddhachas, nach eadh? Akerbeltz (talk) 18:31, 4 dhen Ghiblean 2012 (UTC)

:Rachainn fhìn le sin.  Taing airson breithneachadh air a' cheist! --Lasairdhubh (talk) 03:35, 5 dhen Ghiblean 2012 (UTC)

::'S e do bheath :) Akerbeltz (talk) 17:29, 5 dhen Ghiblean 2012 (UTC)


This came up offline but we better put it here for the record. The issue of language names, sort of following on from the above.

I'd like to propose an approach broadly based on the conventions used by various software developments, including Microsoft, which is a "moderate" approach to translating language names. In a nutshell, Gaelic forms are used for:
* Main official state languages (Spàinntis, Sìnis, Amthara...)
* Most other European living languages (Basgais, Catalanais...)
* Languages particularly relevant/known in the Gaelic world (Laideann, Eabhra...)
Beyond that, the native language name or the English form is favoured for a variety of reasons. "Luwian" just doesn't come up often enough for people to recognise or remember it and most are night impossible to accommodate withing Gaelic orthography and phonology that there's no point really.
* Native form, especially if used in English (Xhosa, Zulu, Kinyarwanda, Hmong...)
* Otherwise English form (Guaraní, Luwian, Udmurt, Dyirbal...)
Thoughts? Akerbeltz 15:56, 18 dhen Ghearrain 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. Maybe it could go to another page, Uicipeid:Ainmean chànan, under Uicipeid:Poileasaidhean na h-Uicipeid. On second thoughts, it could include names of countries too. Anyway, two questions:

What if there are more forms? I think I've seen both Spàinnis and Spàinntis, Seacais/Seicis/Teacais or Mongòlais/Mongoilis - can you think of a general rule or would we treat them case by case?

Will we use English even where it has the typically English -an or -ese suffix, when the native form isn't in Latin script, eg Chittagonian and Assamese? --Thrissel 17:03, 18 dhen Ghearrain 2012 (UTC)

:Ya, we'll move it to a page like that at one point. I kinda like keeping debates here because more (relatively speaking) people watch this page.

:Ignoring the ghastly Wallmap, the closes thing to a standard list is the one Microsoft collated. Redirects rule. That aside, my *only* red line is that I don't think forms which break Gaelic phonology/text to speech rules are good. It messes with the language. I usually go for Spàinntis because Spàinnis is a regular cluster simplification, like coltas > collas; so speakers can derive both the form with and without t from the same spelling but not the other way round.

:I think for the most part, we'll go with the English form even in -ese cases (Asamais is covered by relevant/known but you could persuade me otherwise). -an forms we should debate case by case, usually these are better formed using the country name in Gaelic e.g. Cànain Chittagon.

:Another option, which I could live with is suffixing -(a)is and -(e)ach but onto unchanged roots i.e. Luwis, Chittagonach, Assamais, Samoyedais etc). Akerbeltz 17:58, 18 dhen Ghearrain 2012 (UTC)

::Hi, preparing the [list] took a lot longer than I am prepared to confess to. Here are some observations:

::# I tried for the majority of the languages to locate existing versions of the names. My preferences in order typically werefor (i) an existing and established Gaelic name where I knew or could locate one, (ii) a Galicised version of a name in wide international usage, comforming to Gaelic orthographical conventions (of which I don't profess to have any great knowledge, (iii) the English version of the name, where there were no suffixes, or the suffixes were local.

::# It is work in progress, and therefore even aggressive editing - and particularly the addition of missing information - is very much welcome. I had reached a stage in compiling the data for this list where I felt that it would be good to get feedback before going further.

::# Consequently, I have been very reluctant to create dead links, particularly where there is no settled name for the language.

::# We should leave the door open to the discovery of Gaelic forms and pay particular heed to early attested forms, for example, for the Indo-Ayran languages, from the Gaelic diaries, letter, or memoirs of colonial administrators, traders, missionaries, philologists and so on, if such documents exist.

::# I think we should avoid English suffixes as much as possible. It would seem that it would make more sense linguistically to borrow from the language itself, e.g. Bagla, or from other Celtic languages. Daibhidh mac Uisdean 21:08, 18 dhen Ghearrain 2012 (UTC)

:::Okay, just my two cents:

:::Most other European living languages (Basgais, Catalanais...): I wouldn’t keep it to living European languages only,  East Germanic languages could easily be tranlated, altought they are not longer spoken. And Sòrbais Ìosal is understandable as well, altought it is not found in a dictionary. In the infobox for languages we might run into some other languages like "Central Ripuarian": Ripuarian Meadhanach or English version?

:::Native form, especially if used in English (Xhosa, Zulu, Kinyarwanda, Hmong...),  okay,  Kölsch, Esperanto....

:::Another point would be: Languages with or without article? Gàidhlig had been moved to A' Ghàidhlig and back againn quite often. I would prefer without article. --Sionnach 21:40, 18 dhen Ghearrain 2012 (UTC)

::::Without article, with extreme prejudice. It serves no purpose except making the use of search machine less user-friendly. Just as most people wouldn't expect to find :en:Sun or :de:Elbe under :en:The Sun or :de:Die Elbe. In fact we have far too many pages starting with an article which I would like to see moved, e.g. names of diseases. --Thrissel 22:09, 18 dhen Ghearrain 2012 (UTC)

:::::Diseases are likely a special case as the article is often the single distinguishing element vs a common noun, e.g. a' bhreac (smallpox) vs breac (trout). So we have to tread carefully. Akerbeltz 01:23, 26 dhen Ghearrain 2012 (UTC)

Moving a draft to below the debate as before, please post above it.
*Established names, yes, assuming you mean names which have been around 50+ years like Eadailtis, Arabais etc
*The door will be open but I've done a lot of work in this area, especially when it came to compiling lists for Microsoft and I doubt there's any big surprises waiting for us on a dusty shelf. In many cases, such old forms are ad-hoc, idiosyncratic and without much reference to phonology etc - bad transliterations for the most part. We need to be wary of those.
*I'm taking a loose view of "European" but as East Germanic is dead and apart from Gothic (Gothais seems fine to me) fairly unknown. The key issue is that Gaelicized forms of little known languages are not going to gain currency this century, if ever. For the most part, even German linguists have given up on adding -isch to all but the most widely known languages - Dyirbalisch just makes no sense in German and we're talking a bit language here. But I also take Daibhidh's point about the suffixes, which is why I mentioned the possibility of using non-Gaelic roots plus a suffix. I've added a proposal below, tell me what you think.
*Article... redirects rule. I tend to agree with Sionnach that it makes more sense to use the name without the article but we should list both forms in the lede (e.g. 'S e Gàidhlig no A' Ghàidhlig...) Akerbeltz 22:25, 18 dhen Ghearrain 2012 (UTC)

I guess we can summarise Akerbeltz's rule hierarchy as follows: first, established Gaelic names; second Gaelicised English forms, where English adds a suffix; and finally the native form as represented in other European languages. I basically agree with this but have a proposal and question.
# Firstly, where we have any early attested form coined or used by a native speaker - unless absurd - we should encode this in the language, in order to preserve important assumptions about naming conventions, the speaker's own pronunciation, position on issues of standardness/nonstandardness and so, essential linguistic data. (Before I labour the point does anyone know of any such material in Gaelic from colonial India, Afganastan etc.? This whole debate may be academic.)
# Clearly older names restrict themselves to the eighteen letters of the Gaelic alphabet. Why are newer names not subject to the same restriction? Daibhidh mac Uisdean 03:29, 19 dhen Ghearrain 2012 (UTC)

My proposed rule therefore - in simple form - is:
# Established Gaelic, then
# Any attested early form, then
# Gaelicised English, then
# Native form. Daibhidh mac Uisdean 03:29, 19 dhen Ghearrain 2012 (UTC)

: Just because a language is dead, doesn't mean that we can't write an article about it. Would East Germanic be Gearmanach an Ear no Gearmanach Earach or would it be in English because it is not an established form in Gàidhlig?

::There is a need for two separate things, articles for extinct or proto- languages, e.g. proto-West Germanic, and another for the current West Germanic language family. Daibhidh 12:42, 19 dhen Ghearrain 2012 (UTC)

:Any attested early form: Hm, I would suggest to add this into the article, just in case it ever happens that there is more than one source, we might be in trouble to decide with one to use as article name. --Sionnach 09:02, 19 dhen Ghearrain 2012 (UTC)

::Moved Daibhidh's comment (sorry, was unclear, I meant "post below last comment and above Dreach nan riaghailtean)

::Sionnach has a good point about language families. I think that can be incorporated along the lines of "linguistic family names will be based on existing Gaelic root forms (e.g. Gearmanach, Sìona-Thibeiteach...) but non-Gaelic root forms in most other cases (Vasconiceach, Siouanach, Inuiteach...)

::The problem with just using forms that some author at some point coined is that just because a writer comes up with something, doesn't necessarily mean it's a good idea. When faced with non-native names, the first people who create written forms are often ill-equipped to do so. Just think of the way English-speaking map-makers mangled Gaelic placenames. Or the way colonial administrators mangles Cantonese. "Hong Kong" (coined on the spot and by people with no linguistic knowledge) is a very long way from "Heung Gong" (coined much later when people started developing "proper" romanization schemes). Some of the old names may indeed be useful but need to be handled with care, we don't want to break Gaelic any more. In any case, as I mentioned it's extremely unlikely that we'll suddenly unearth a Gaelic form for Menominee or Tarahumara. But I'll stick something in. Akerbeltz 10:21, 19 dhen Ghearrain 2012 (UTC)

::Ok, tweaked. Also added something about Biblical forms which are a surprisingly useful source. Akerbeltz 10:53, 19 dhen Ghearrain 2012 (UTC)

:::You helped me out with Hitis! Daibhidh 12:42, 19 dhen Ghearrain 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, maybe this is nit-picking or maybe I have an off-day, but the way rule 2) is written implies to me we use any kind of original writing system, and only if there are two forms we use a transcription to Latin alphabet by ISO-9 - so rule 3) applies to what "others"? I mean, couldn't Gujarati be just as well under 3a) and Udmurt or Dyirbal under 2)? --Thrissel 17:13, 19 dhen Ghearrain 2012 (UTC)

Good point. Tweaked. Sometimes the forms used in English is identical to the native form, e.g. Lakhóta, Sesotho etc, so yes, there will be overlaps. Now, deep breath, a sip of slivo... shlibo oh that stuff you make with plums. Well, mostly plums - and you'll feel better :) Akerbeltz 17:36, 19 dhen Ghearrain 2012 (UTC)

:Actually the guy next door did bring some slivovica, but that was three and a half months ago and I doubt there's any left. Anyway, it's better now but even with the help of... the barley stuff I'd probably still miss in the rules a reason for having Guaraní under 3) rather than Avañe'ẽ under 2) - provided en-wiki's got the the endonym right. --Thrissel 19:24, 19 dhen Ghearrain 2012 (UTC)

::It meant to say under 2) that native names will be given priority if (amongst other) they are close to the English form e.g. Lakhóta over Lakota/Dakota but Avañe'ẽ is so distant from the English form that Guaraní should be used. I'm getting nowhere with work today either, maybe I should take something distilled myself. Akerbeltz 19:38, 19 dhen Ghearrain 2012 (UTC)

:::I added a proposal about initial bh, ch, dh, fh, gh, mh, ph, sh, th. Thoughts? We seemed to have reached a lull so I'll probably move this to a new policy page soon. Akerbeltz 10:37, 25 dhen Ghearrain 2012 (UTC)

:::: Just a very minor point under 3 b): It would be nice to add examples of the the use of -ish, and -(e)ach as well, because it would make it easier to spot the right one. So far there are Gilbertese -> Gilbertais and Ripuarian -> Ripuarais. The rest is fine to me.--Sionnach 07:51, 26 dhen Ghearrain 2012 (UTC)

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Deasbaireachd:Bìoball

I have hardlinked the page gd:Bìoball at the footer of :en:Bible translations into Scottish Gaelic. In ictu oculi (talk) 01:40, 8 dhen Ghiblean 2012 (UTC)

I've just imported and translated the page from the English Wiki :) Akerbeltz (talk) 10:28, 8 dhen Ghiblean 2012 (UTC)


Deasbaireachd:Rìghrean na h-Alba

What does the na in "bràthair na h-Uilleam I", "mac na Raibeart de Brus", "mòr-mòr-mac-mic na Daibhidh na Huntingdon (bràthair na h-Uilleam I" & "mac na Raibeart I" stand for? Doesn't look as either the feminine genitive article or ann an+e to me. Traditional idiom when talking (royal/noble?) ancestors? --Thrissel (talk) 20:04, 18 dhen Ghiblean 2012 (UTC)

Thrissel,  thanks for looking at this article.  The "na" phenomenon is no ancient custom, but rather my recent grammatical error!  I'll remove them...  Breckenheimer (talk) 21:30, 18 dhen Ghiblean 2012 (UTC)


Deasbaireachd:12na linn

Nach bu chòir seo a bhith 12na linn - "an dàrna linn deug"? --Thrissel (talk) 12:39, 28 dhen Chèitean 2012 (UTC)

Bu chòir. Akerbeltz (talk) 16:27, 30 dhen Chèitean 2012 (UTC)

This link favors "-mh" for all numbers.  Breckenheimer (talk) 22:12, 30 dhen Chèitean 2012 (UTC)

:Which makes it suspicious - it has 1mh & 2mh - for one thing, GOC has 1d, 2na/2ra, for a second, English doesn't have 1th & 2th either. --Thrissel (talk) 22:46, 30 dhen Chèitean 2012 (UTC)
While we're at it another thing I'm curious about is how to pronounce, years like, say "1986".  If it starts will "mil...", would it be correct to write "ann am 1986" instead of "ann an 1986"? Breckenheimer (talk) 02:22, 31 dhen Chèitean 2012 (UTC)

It doesn't start with "mil...". For 1986 you say naoi ceud deug ceithir fichead 's a sia (or naoi ceud deug ochdad 's a sia), literally "nine hundred -teen...". Alternatively you can use anns a' bhliadhna naoi ceud deug..., but I suppose that "anns a' bhliadhna 1986" would go against Wikipedia's philosophy of succinctness. --Thrissel (talk) 10:22, 31 dhen Chèitean 2012 (UTC)


Deasbaireachd:Cànain Ghearmaineach

Chan fhaca mi "Gearmaineach" roimhe seo. A bheil "Gearmailteach" co-cheangailte dìreach ri ISO 639-1 de agus "Gearmaineach" ri ISO 639-2 and 639-5 gem - a bheil an diofar seo sa Ghàidhlig gu dearbh? --Thrissel (talk) 20:13, 5 dhen Lùnastal 2012 (UTC)

Tha "Gearmaineach" a' tighinn bho Bhriathrachas Cànanach-Faclair le Roy Wentworth airson Germanic languages. Bu chòir diofar a bhith ann, chan eil iad co-ionnan idir.--Sionnach (talk) 21:11, 5 dhen Lùnastal 2012 (UTC)

:A-ha. Chanainn gur e Wentworth adhbhar math, taing airson na freagairte! --Thrissel (talk) 21:04, 6 dhen Lùnastal 2012 (UTC)

::'S e do bheatha:-) --Sionnach (talk) 21:17, 6 dhen Lùnastal 2012 (UTC)


Fàilte agus taing airson nan ceartachaidhean (b' e mise a bu choireach :-/); mar a chanar, deasachadh sona dhut! --Thrissel (talk) 19:36, 13 dhen Dàmhair 2012 (UTC)

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Bha mi coimhead air Lucía Etxebarría 's cha chreid mi gum b' fheairrde dhuinn Gàidhlig a chur air ainmean leabhraichean nach deach am foillseachadh innte. Ma tha sin son mìneachadh Gàidhlig a chur ris, chanainn gum bu còir dhuinn am pàtran ainm tùsail ("eadar-theangachadh Gàidhlig") a chleachdadh, m.e. The Lord of the Rings ("rìgh nam fàinneachan"). Nam biodh tu airson leabhar sam bith mar sin a cheannach, chuireadh e droil thu mura biodh agad ach a' Ghàidhlig, gu h-àraidh le rud mar Ann an gàirdeanan a’ mhnatha fhetis. Dè ur beachd? Akerbeltz (talk) 17:17, 22 dhen Ògmhios 2012 (UTC)

Tha mi a' dol leat. Dè mu dheidhinn, ma bhios eadar-theangachadh nan leabhraichean gu Beurla ann cuideachd? Ann an Gerhart Johann Robert Hauptmann chuir mi an dà chuid ann còmhla ris an ainm Ghearmailteach, le mìneachadh ann an Gàidhlig, cho fad 's a bha fios agam co-dhiù.  Is dòcha gu bheil an cuspair seo nas fheàrr ann an Doras na Coimhearsnachd? --Sionnach (talk) 08:13, 23 dhen Ògmhios 2012 (UTC)

:Bhiodh. Tha mi an-còmhnaidh tro chèile a thaobh an dà dhuilleag >.< Akerbeltz (talk) 17:32, 23 dhen Ògmhios 2012 (UTC)

::Ged a chruthaich mi m.e. Mìorbhail (nobhail), feumaidh mi aideachadh gur ann beachd math a tha agaibh, gu h-àraidh as dèidh dhomh an liosta aig Leo Tolstoy fhaicinn. ("Bàs Ivan Ilych", o mo chreach :).) 'S dòcha gum faod seo a bhith ann am poileasaidh eile? Bhiodh e feumail airson òrain, filmichean ⁊c cuideachd. --Thrissel (talk) 12:03, 24 dhen Ògmhios 2012 (UTC)

:::Bhithinn toilichte a chur ris na poileasaidhean againn. Akerbeltz (talk) 12:15, 24 dhen Ògmhios 2012 (UTC)
Uill, thionndaidh mi liosta nan sgrìobhaidhean Tolstoj mar seo , 's dòcha gum b' urrainn dhuinn tòiseachadh bho seo. Dè ur beachdan? (Feumaidh mi aideachadh nach do chòrd na camagan ceàrnag rium - 's dòcha gum biodh e na b' fheàrr às an aonais?) Cuideachd, chanainn gum biodh e math nan canadh am poileasaidh a dh'aona-ghnothach air dè a bhios buaidh aice (leabhraichean, òrain, albaman, filmichean, dràmathan, prògraman TBh, dealbhan - a h-uile dhiubh seo? rudeigin eile?), agus nam biodh riaghailtean sònraichte ann airson tiotalan aistean. --Thrissel (talk) 23:12, 14 dhen Mhàrt 2013 (UTC)

Tha e beagan nas dorra riaghailtean a stèidheachadh airson gach ainm aiste a chionn 's gum bi buaidh aig diofar rudan air a sin, chanainn. A thaobh an tar-litreachaidh, chanainn gum b' fheairrde dhuinn teamplaid IPA agus teamplaid tar-litreachaidh mar a tha ri làimh air Uicipeid na Beurla.

'S e ceist dhuilich a th' ann, a bharrachd air sin, a thaobh dè nì sinn ma tha aiste neo-eisimeileach ann air leabhar nach eil ri fhaighinn sa Ghàidhlig. A' coimhead air seo  (na ceanglaichean) chanainn gu bheil cuid mhath dhe na h-uicipeidean a' cleachdadh eadar-theangachadh ainm an leabhair (fiù mur an leabhar air eadar-theangachadh) ma tha aiste neo-eisimeileach ann. Mar sin dheth, Cogadh is Sìth agus Na Cosacaich? Akerbeltz (talk) 11:18, 17 dhen Mhàrt 2013 (UTC)

:Seadh, agus tha ceist eile am bu chòir sinn dèiligeadh ri tiotalan sa Bheurla coltach ri tiotalan sa chànanan eile. Chan aithe dhomh teamplaid tar-litreachaidh ann an en-wiki ach chanainn gum biodh IPA fada na b' fheàrr na ISO-9 airson tiotalan san Ruisis amsaa. Mu dheidhinn Uicipeidean eile... air an dàrna làimh, cha bu mhath leam a' dol an aghaidh chleachdaidhean a tha stèidichte gun umhail do chànan, air an làimh eile, tha e coltach gu bheil bùrach sna feadhainn eile cuideachd, m.e. .

:'S dòcha gum biodh e math liosta nan roghainnean a dhèanamh an toiseach:

:# Tiotal Gàidhlig: gu follaiseach, sa Ghàidhlig, chanainn nach eil feum air eadar-theangachadh Beurla ann.

:# Tiotal sa chànan eile a nochd an clò mar eadar-theangachadh sa Ghàidhlig: mholainn am pàtran "ainm Gàidhlig (ainm tùsail)", gun ainm Beurla.

:# Tiotal Beurla: mholainn "ainm Beurla", gun eadar-theangachadh. Chan eil beachd làidir agam an-dràsta mu ainm aiste - The Pickwick Papers no Na Pàipearan Pickwick? Animal Farm no Tuathanas Ainmidhean? 'S dòcha gum b' fheàrr leam an t-ainm tùsail Beurla ge-tà.

:# Tiotal sa chànan eile a' cleachdadh aibidil Laideann: mholainn "ainm tùsail (eadar-theangachadh Gàidhlig (+eadar-theangachadh Beurla ma chaidh an tiotal fhoillseachadh sa Bheurla))". Far a bheil aiste neo-eisimeileach, 's mathaid gum biodh e na b' fheàrr am pàtran sin atharrachadh gu "ainm aiste (ainm sa chànain eile)". Chan eil beachd làidir agam an-dràsta mu ainm na h-aiste - Les Misérables no Na Truaghan? Die Leiden des jungen Werther no Na Bròin aig Werther Òg? Bhithinn an aghaidh ainm Beurla ge-tà, m.e. The Sorrows of Young Werther.

:# Tiotal sa chànan le aibidil eile - mholainn "ainm tùsail (IPA, eadar-theangachadh Gàidhlig (+eadar-theangachadh Beurla ma chaidh an tiotal fhoillseachadh sa Bheurla))". A-rithist, far a bheil aiste neo-eisimeileach, 's mathaid "ainm aiste (ainm tùsail, IPA, Beurla ma bha e an clò)" an àite sin. Ach chan eil beachd agam idir an-dràsta mu ainm na h-aiste - Война и мир? Cogadh is Sìth? --Thrissel (talk) 18:57, 17 dhen Mhàrt 2013 (UTC)

::::Mholainn an tiotal ann an tar-litreachadh oifigeach le redirects, m.e. Voyna i mir agus redirects o War and peace agus Cogadh is sìth. Ma thèid leabhar fhoillseachadh latha air choireigin, 's urrainn dhuinn sinn a ghluasad. Dè do bheachd? Akerbeltz (talk) 00:25, 29 dhen Mhàrt 2013 (UTC)

:::::So, (a) ainm aiste Vojna i mir/Das Schloss le ath-threòrachaidhean o Cogadh is Sìth/An Caisteal (nobhail) agus War and Peace/The Castle (novel), agus nam biodh eadar-theangachadh Gàdhlig ann, Cogadh is Sìth/An Caisteal (nobhail) le ath-threòrachaidhean o chàch, gun fheum air ath-threòrachadh o Война и мир, agus (b) ann an liosta ainm na h-aiste fhèin, agus na dreachdan eile ann an camagan? Glè mhath, chan bhithinn an aghaidh sin. --Thrissel (talk) 18:10, 29 dhen Mhàrt 2013 (UTC)
Seadh, ach dè liosta? Ò, ma tha liosta nan obraichean air duilleag ùghdair? Seadh, chanainn gun obraich an dearbh rud, cha mhòr, can
*Voina i mir (cogadh is sìth)
le no as aonais an litreachaidh tùsail mar a thograr. Akerbeltz (talk) 18:16, 29 dhen Mhàrt 2013 (UTC)

Uill, chruthaich mi dreachd - beachdan? --Thrissel (talk) 16:24, 1 dhen Ghiblean 2013 (UTC)

:Tha mise leagte ris, chanainn. Cleachdamaid e 's chì sinn a bheil feum air a chur air gleus ach obraichidh e san fharsaingeachd, chanainn. Akerbeltz (talk) 12:09, 2 dhen Ghiblean 2013 (UTC)

::Glè mhath, fuirichidh mi seachdain agus mura bhios gearan ann, sguabaidh mi às an "rabhadh: dreachd". --Thrissel (talk) 16:19, 3 dhen Ghiblean 2013 (UTC)

:::Dèanta. Ma thig sinn air trioblaid sam bith, faodaidh sinn cnuasachadh a-rithist agus na riaghailtean atharrachadh. --Thrissel (talk) 14:46, 10 dhen Ghiblean 2013 (UTC)

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Deasbaireachd a' chleachdaiche:Sioraf~gdwiki

Please could I ask from native speakers help correcting or translating the following terms, sentences or expressions. Tapadh leibh. Sioraf (talk) 03:09, 7 dhen Ghiblean 2013 (UTC)

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Móran taing! Sioraf (talk) 15:27, 28 dhen Mhàrt 2014 (UTC)

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Redirect and Reflist have large global usage, therefore it would be good to get the translation spot on, i.e. something snappy and intuitive in Gaelic. Those are the standard terms                                                                                Redirect and Reflist have large global usage, therefore it would be good to get the translation spot on, i.e. something snappy and intuitive in Gaelic. Those are the standard terms                                                                                Redirect and Reflist have large global usage, therefore it would be good to get the translation spot on, i.e. something snappy and intuitive in Gaelic. Those are the standard terms
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Please could I ask from native speakers help correcting or translating the following terms, sentences or expressions
Flag of the German Empire                                                                                Bratach Impireachd na Gearmailte
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Tata Akerbeltz (talk) 20:04, 7 dhen Ghiblean 2013 (UTC)

Tapadh leibhsa!

:What's not clear about those you marked with ??? above? Akerbeltz (talk) 20:37, 8 dhen Ghiblean 2013 (UTC)

::They are my own translations, so I have no idea if they are correct. Sioraf (talk) 03:57, 9 dhen Ghiblean 2013 (UTC)

:::Ok :) Done. Can I say a big "mòran taing" for working on templates? We are SO far behind with those it's nauseating but I can't get my head around them.

:::We should, perhaps, find a better format for translation, it's getting a bit tricky to find those you need done. Perhaps if you could start a new section/table for new ones? Akerbeltz (talk) 11:36, 14 dhen Ghiblean 2013 (UTC)

If you are not a Gaelic-speaker, but would like to help improve Gaelic Wikipedia, please feel free to help with tasks on the list below. Any help improving this valuable resource is appreciated. Sioraf (talk) 09:30, 20 dhen Ghiblean 2013 (UTC)
# Just about every page has the category function written in English still. This can be changed to Gaelic by replacing [[Category:Blah Blah Blah]] with [[Roinn-seòrsa:Blah Blah Blah]].

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Deasbaireachd:Milano

I'm sorry for posting in English not in Gaelic (I'm Italian), but I think it is relevant that the first, legendary name for Celtic Milan was "Alba".

Where do you get that from? Not even the English page on Milan mentions this. Akerbeltz (talk) 14:15, 15 dhen Ghiblean 2013 (UTC)


A Shusan choir,
Is e cleachdadh na Gaidhlig a h-aon rud a dheanas do chuid Ghaidhlig nas nadurra. Na gabh cus dragh mu deidhinn nos litrichidh- tha iomadh luchd ionnsachaidh air cleachdadh GOC ann an doigh mi-fhreagaireach- tha sin ri radh gu bheil iad air cuir cuideam air gnathsan cainnt ainmichte anns na sgriobhaidhean-taic don GhOC agus air seachnadh gnathsan cainnte eile. Cha robh tanachadh na canain riamh amas GhOiC ach is e sin a tha an nos smaoinichidh siud air aobharachadh. Chi thu nach eil mo litricheadh cho sgiobalta 's a bu choir- agus mi fhein a measg an 30% de na Gaidheal a tha a' measadh a fhein comasach a sgriobhaich!
Mar sin, ma tha eolas agad air cuspair sam bith, bhithinn a' tagradh ort a sgriobh aistean mu deidhinn air an wikipedia seo anns a' Ghaidhlig agad fhein, neo dean leasachadh, seach deasachadh air aistean a tha ann: cuir tuilleadh fiosrachadh a-steach. Tha iomadh daoine an saoghal na Gaidhlig a tha gu math geur air taobh gramair, syntacs agus litricheadh- ach is e eolas air cuspairean farsuinn agus domhainn a tha dith air an wikipedia seo. Failte ort do chearnach dhorcha eile de Saoghal breagha na Gaidhlig! :).
Padruig

Hello, Susan. Or is it Dr. Bell?
I see that you are en|gd-3 and I am hoping that you might help with a short translation request:
Uicipeid:Talla a' Bhaile#Translation of a title
I am just looking for a title for a page I have written, and you edited Thomas Mann.
In Canada, Varlaam (talk) 05:46, 5 dhen Iuchar 2013 (UTC)

Hello, I'd go with '100 Leabhar an Linn (a rèir Le Monde/ le Le Monde). It's not very clear as which century isn't obvious, but that's the same in the original. You say you're going to do a Gaelic list, can I ask you to tell me a bit more about what this means? Are you going to put the table headings and languages in Gaelic only? What language are you going to put the book titles in? Thisissusanbell (talk) 15:31, 15 dhen Iuchar 2013 (UTC)

Please translate a few sentences for me here, Susan. I will develop an infobox for Wales (similar to Caernarfon but with a working map / coordinates. I've done around 200 on the Breton wiki and would love to help out my fellow Celts. Wici Rhuthun 1 (talk) 22:19, 8 dhen Ghiblean 2014 (UTC)

Hi, Thisissusanbell, tha deasbad a' dol ann ann  an Deasbaireachd na roinn-seòrsa:Bàird Ghàidhlig. Bhiodh e fìor mhath beachdan eile fhaighinn.--Sionnach (talk) 20:25, 27 dhen Chèitean 2014 (UTC)

Chunna mi sin. Bha mi a' meòrachadh na ceist agus a' sgrìobhadh freagairt. :) Thisissusanbell (talk) 20:46, 27 dhen Chèitean 2014 (UTC)

Haidh, is math gu do mhothaich thu an roinn-seòrsa: Luchd Ciùil. Thòisich mi air cuid dhiubh a ghluasad gu Roinn-seòrsa:Luchd-ciùil, ach tha barrachd air fhàgail. Cumaidh mi orm ma bhios mionad agam, ach bhiodh e math cuideachadh fhaighinn cuideachd. Ma nì thu sin, is dòcha gu bheil e math {{DEFAULTSORT: }} a chur riutha aig an aon àm. (Tha fios agam gu bheil na roinnean-seòrsa ann an droch staing, ach gu mì-fhortanach chan eil daoine gu leòr againn an seo.)
Rudeigin eile: saoil, an urrainn dhut post-d Uicipeid agad fhosgladh? Nì thu sin anns na roghainnean agad. --Sionnach (an deasbaireachd) 09:04, 12 dhen t-Sultain 2014 (UTC)

Ma 's ur toil e, seall sin.. Tha mi duilich. Chan eil moran Gàidhlig agam. 98.26.90.38 07:15, 11 dhen Dùbhlachd 2014 (UTC)

Obair fìor mhath a rinn thu! Seall air a' Phrìomh-Dhuilleig a-nis, chuir mi an aiste rithe leis an dòchas gu bheil sin a' còrdadh riut:-) Agus ma bhios tu fhèin airson nam bocsaichean "Artagail taghta" no "An robh fhios agaibh" atharrachadh, 's urrainn dhut sin a dhèanamh anns na teamplaidean Teamplaid:Artagail taghta is Teamplaid:Naidheachdan ->(An robh fhios agaibh?). Tha iad ceangailte ris a' Phrìomh-Dhuilleig. Dùrachdan --Sionnach (an deasbaireachd) 21:27, 6 dhen Fhaoilleach 2015 (UTC)

Mòran taing! Thisissusanbell (an deasbaireachd) 09:22, 7 dhen Fhaoilleach 2015 (UTC)

Hi Thisissusanbell,
's e do bheatha.
Thanks for the link to SNH. I have begun to redirect names when I find multiples. Additionally, I have been trying to cite references as much as possible, but I cannot yet comment on most common usage (except going by An Faclair Beag). Is this the best approach?
Lately, Gunmhoine (Deasbaireachd a' chleachdaiche:Gunmhoine) is working on birds, and I have switched over to mammals so as not to get in each others' way. She and I have been discussing bird lists and databases, though, and have located some sources. E.g., AviBase, birding lists.
As you can tell, she and I are both learning the language; I am in the USA and I believe she is in the Netherlands. For my part, working on the Uici is expanding my vocabulary by leaps and bounds, and I am grateful for the opportunity.
Thanks for your help and patience.
Kibi78704 (an deasbaireachd) 11:11, 9 dhen Fhaoilleach 2015 (UTC)

As many citations as you find is definitely to be recommended. As for most common, I meant that by having citations, readers can see for themselves which is the most commonly cited. It would be interesting to develop further details of the history and variety of names on the Wiktionary site but I don't think anyone has the time for that kind of lexicographical work at the moment! At An Seotal, terms for use in schools and by Stòrlann (schools publisher) can be found. Under the science section there are some animals. I can start adding them to your pages - working from A forwards. I'll point you to other sources when I think of them, but the SNH list is a good one as others follow their usage. If you have any queries etc, just let me know. Bidh mi toilichte cuideachadh a thoirt dhut :) Thisissusanbell (an deasbaireachd) 15:51, 9 dhen Fhaoilleach 2015 (UTC)
=== Kibi78704 Mamalan ===
Hi Thisissusanbell, tapadh leat for your help in improving the articles I am working on, and for the links to both SNH and An Seotal. Those links will be very useful.
As you can probably tell, I am interested in fauna, but also in flora. A long time ago, I wanted to learn Gaelic, and I wanted to learn the names of species indigenous to Scotland. I had to put away my project for many years, but now have the opportunity to start it again. This time, I hope to document my studies, and share the results with others by writing Uicipeid articles.
The scope of the project mushroomed a bit. Starting with the existing Uicipeid articles in first listed in Eun, I began systematically editing or adding articles to include taxonomy tables, links to WikiCommons, images, maps where available, and whatever else I had the vocabulary to add.
After I started editing articles in Roinn-seòrsa:Eòin, I searched the web to make a list of species in Beathach to add further articles later. My hope was to make a large list that others, perhaps young students, could use as a springboard to add articles to Uicipeid. I started with existing articles, and put them in a taxonomic order, knowing full well that taxon chains have been under upheaval for the past several years.
More or less by chance, I am now working out of Antalop, which I have similarly expanded. I have been adding articles with a "template" I created, but it was very sparse. Using the last article I added, Gazella dorcas, as a teaching opportunity, Sionnach has been helping me improve it. She (?) has helped me expand the template, and has given me a few phrases to vary the descriptions in other articles.
I am wondering if you had any comments about the contents, and whether you could think of any simple information points that might be easy for me to add to my species article template despite my very limited Gaelic vocabulary. I was hoping for something that might interest schoolage children, or even older readers.
I have asked Sionnach if she could point me to a Gaelic list of IUCN threat status levels; I think that information might be interesting. I am also wondering if there is a more complete list of taxon levels that I could use to augment the taxonomy tables in the articles. By necessity, and lack of vocabulary, I have been leaving off information about levels such as clade, subclass, infraclass, superorder, suborder, subfamily, superspecies, tribes, etc. I cannot find that information on An Seotal. Could you possibly point me to a list or an article somewhere that enumerates taxon levels? I have tried searching online, but I believe I am not using a viable search string.
As for Wictionary, someday it would be fun to work with etymologies and other things, but I am not yet qualified!
Thanks in advance; I am grateful for whatever guidance I can get.
Mar sin leat an-dràsta, Kibi78704 (an deasbaireachd) 21:30, 12 dhen Fhaoilleach 2015 (UTC)

Mòran taing airson comments agad. Excuse my answering partly in English.
*1. Lorg mi "nom de plume" or "stage name. Most musicians call themselves not by their given name. Is dòcha b' fhearr "ainm-pinn" ro ùghdaran, chan eil mi cinnteach. Dè tha na ciallan do "far-ainm" sa Ghàidhlig? Is it more like a nick-name? Perhaps this category can be discarded anyway, as the stage name will be the name given to the article, what do you think?
*2. Chan eil dhomh. Tha ainm-baistidh air m.e. Mozart ach chan eil ainm-baistidh air duine mì-bhaiste. Also "birth-name" can be filled in, if the married name is different (For example: Fanny Hensel. Birth name: Mendelssohn; Christian name: Mendelssohn Bartholdy). And Chopin changed his original name when he moved to France as well. If you don't write anything here, the categories won't appear, so you just take what applies to the musician in question.
*3. Chan eil mi a' tuigsinn uile a sgrìobh thu. I could add a category "ainm eile" or similar. What would you call it?
*4. Regarding to classical musicians it's often very important whether they were Protestant (Bach) or Catholic (Mozart), since they also wrote a lot of Church music. If you don't write anything here, the category just won't appear.
*5. Cha bhiodh e dona seo. Ach 's e luchd-siubhail ann an ceòladairean. It might be difficult in some cases and with historic musicians. I'll add that category.
*6. Absolutely. Would that heading also cover groups of classical musicians like orchestras? For example "Peter Oundjian: Royal Scottish National Orchestra".
*7. This is a good category for practicing musicians. I'll add it. With historic musicians you can just leave it blank and it won't appear. It's the same with "làrach-lìn".
What do you think, should I replace the categories "Là breithe" and "Àite breithe" by "Rugadh" (As in teamplaid "Duine ainmeil"). Perhaps this would be a bit clearer (same with "Bàs")?
Tha teamplaidean a cheàrdachd a' còrdadh rium, ach seo mo chiad teamplaid. I appreciate your comments and your help.--Comhachag-bheag (an deasbaireachd) 19:59, 2 dhen Ghearrain 2015 (UTC)

1. Far-ainm: I understand 'ainm-pinn' as pen-name (literally). Mar a thuirt thu, tha e nas fhearr le ùghdaran seach ceòladairean nam bheachdsa. 'S e 'nickname' a tha ann am 'far-ainm'. I think it might useful  - faic na eisimpleirean.

2. Ainm breithe: I use 'Christian name' in the old-fashioned sense of 'first name', and would have used ainm-baistidh without literally thinking of baptism. Ach tha mi a' dol leat a-nis.

3. Ainm Eile: Those with Gaelic names are v. likely to have English versions, so I thought putting them in the template might mean they could removed from the body of the page which has the bonus of reducing the prominence of English names. This also might apply to other names, that have a Cyrillic version? There are also Patronymics etc. A 'other names' category could pick these up?

4. Creideamh: Seadh. Tha mi a' dol leat.

5. Tìr/Dùthaich: Tha e anns an Teamplaid airson Duais Nobel (faic Marie Curie). But I can see it could cause complications and the En:wiki avoids it, using Residence and Citizenship. Perhaps it is better indicate in the text what relationships different people have to different places, and use Roinn-seòrsa if people want to find Luchd-ciùil às a' Phòlainn for example. Think I'm happy to leave it out.

6. Còmhlain: Gu dearbh. Tha 'còmhlain' generic gu leòr airson orchestras cuideachd. Should it be singluar (còmhlan) or plural (còmhlain)? My instinct is for plural even if there might only be one entry.

7. Companaidh ciùil: glè mhath.

8. Rugadh/Bàs: There's perhaps an advantage to be consistent with other templates, so bhithinnsa toilichte le 'rugadh/bàs'.

Iworked up some test cases to see how things might work. Eventually we could create some to go on the Teamplaid page as examples?

Ainm na Duilleige (Gàidhlig): Norrie MacÌomhair Far-ainm: Norrie Tago Ainm eile: Beurla: Norrie MacIver

Pop Ainm na Duilleige: Rihanna Ainm breithe: Robyn Rihanna Fenty Far-ainm: RiRi

Invented Person! Ainm na Duilleige (Gàidhlig): Catrìona NicCormaig Far-ainm: Cathy Bheag Ainm breithe: Catrìona NicAonghais (m.e. mus do phòs i) Ainm eile: Sloinneadh: Catriona nighean Ghilleasbaig Ghriomasaigh; Beurla: Catherine MacCormick

mòran taing airson an obair seo! Thisissusanbell (an deasbaireachd) 15:43, 3 dhen Ghearrain 2015 (UTC)
Bheir sùil air Cleachdaiche:Comhachag-bheag/Teamplaid:Luchd-ciùil. Dè an t-ainm a bhios air an teamplaid seo: Ceòladair neo neach-ciùil? 'S fhearr leam Ceòladair. I need to change the name and some settings before I move this template.
While I'm at it, should I adjust this template for writers? They would need a publisher (foillsichear), language and literary genre (novel, poetry, drama, journalism). What else? Literary society? --Comhachag-bheag (an deasbaireachd) 21:40, 3 dhen Ghearrain 2015 (UTC)

Hello, tha an teamplaid a' coimhead glè mhath. Tha mi a' smaointinn gu bheil 'ceòladair' math mar tiotal. Bheir mi sùil air na sgrìobhadairean agus cuiridh mi fios thugad. Tòisichidh mi an teamplaid ceòladairean a chur an gnìomh cuideachd! Thisissusanbell (an deasbaireachd) 15:10, 9 dhen Ghearrain 2015 (UTC)
Bha an Teamplaid:Sgrìobhadair ann mu-thràth. Bidh mi ag obair air teamplaid "Loch ann an Alba" air mu dhuilleag a' cleachdaiche. Cha bhi mòran ùine agam an-dràsta, ach bidh mi ag obair ceum air cheum. Chunnaic mi d'aistean ri "Ceòladair". What do you think, should I change the "Bàs" section so that it only appears if you write something there? --Comhachag-bheag (an deasbaireachd) 16:38, 13 dhen Ghearrain 2015 (UTC)

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Deasbaireachd a' chleachdaiche:Jhendin

Sorry to disturb you.
I am wondering if you might do a small translation for me.
This project has only a modest number of active users.
Varlaam (talk) 02:05, 15 dhen Iuchar 2013 (UTC)

No problem.

It's just that at a lot of the smaller projects, the Embassy and the Village Pump pages are not monitored by anyone, and you are eventually left with seeking out an individual.

Sorry for the trouble, Varlaam (talk) 20:53, 23 dhen Iuchar 2013 (UTC)

Halò, Jhendin, fàilte an seo. Mòran taing airson na h-aistean agad mu bhailtean anns na Stàitean Aonaichte. Tha iad uile a' coimhead glè mhath agus uabhasach sgiobalta. Mhothaich mi dìreach aon phuing bheag:
'S e baile ann am Rhode Island, sna Stàitean Aonaichte, a th' ann an Pawtucket.
Cleachdar "ann am" dìreach ro fhaclan a thòisicheas le bpfm: ann am Pawtucket, ann am Maine, ann am Boston. Leis na faclan eile ' s e dìreach "ann an" .... a thèid a chleachdadh, m. e: ann an Rhode Island.
Tha mi an dòchas gu bheil sin cuideachail dhut. A bharrachd air sin cum ort leis na h-aistean agad, tha iad gu math feumail gus Uicipeid na Gàidhlig a leasachadh.
Hi, Jhendin, welcome here. Thanks a lot for your articles about towns in the USA. They all are looking very good and neat. I just noticed a minor point:
'S e baile ann am Rhode Island, sna Stàitean Aonaichte, a th' ann an Pawtucket.
"ann am" will be used just before words beginning with bpfm: ann am Pawtucket, ann am Maine, ann am Boston. With all the other words only   "ann an" .... a will be used, m. e: ann an Rhode Island.
I'll hope you don't mind pointing this out to you. Besides that, keep up your fine work around here they are very helpful for expanding the Gaelic Wikipedia.
Le deagh dhùrachdan/Greetings --Sionnach (talk) 21:23, 4 dhen Lùnastal 2013 (UTC)

:I would also suggest that you may want to consider branching out into something else or focus on adding more content. There is very little point in having a great many of these geo stubs, especially for places outside the UK, which do nothing but tell you that x is a town in y, plus they create a lot of maintenance work that we don't have editors for (like when pop figures change or mayors etc). I ended up culling a whole raft of these not too long ago, it would be good not to have to do that again :) Akerbeltz (an deasbaireachd) 17:23, 10 dhen Iuchar 2017 (UTC)

:: Could you make sure you understand the meaning of lùireach, gearradh-arm, seula, mapa and dealbh? CreagNamBathais (an deasbaireachd) 17:09, 11 dhen Iuchar 2017 (UTC)

Halò. S' mise G.W.Kyte agus an dùil caite bheil thu a'sgrìobh às a chor's gun sgrìobhagh mi mu Aimeireaga a Tuath is baile ann Aimeireaga a Tuath.
Jhendin (an deasbaireachd) 14:57, 8 dhen Lùnastal 2015 (UTC)'S mise Jim Hendin agus 's e Chicago a tha annamsa. Tha mi a' fuireach ann am Florida.

Halò, agus Caite bheil thu a' sgrìobh às.

Fàilte air ais gu Uicipeid! </br>
Tapadh leat airson an obair a rinn thu mar-thà air Dakota a Tuath. Is mise Uicipeidiche na Gàidhlig am bliadhna le pròiseact leasachaidh. Na bi diùid fios a chur thugamsa ma tha ceistean sam bith agad. Faodaidh tu cuideachd ceist fhàgail air Doras na Coimhearsnachd far an faic an luchd-cleachdaidh eile teachdaireachdan.</br>
'S dòcha gum bi e feumail dhut cuideachd am fiosrachadh anns an Ro-ràdh, Cobhair agus Poileasaidhean a leughadh. Gura math a thèid leat! Susan.nls (an deasbaireachd) 19:53, 9 dhen Iuchar 2017 (UTC)

Hi Jhendin ,

This may be quite a long message but I hope it is constructive and clarifying.

# Your contributions to Uicipeid are appreciated. The pages you create are attractive, well formatted stubs, in particular when compared with some existing stubs, e.g. Dobhair, Alba Nuadh

# I also think it's important that we, as a wiki community, don't simply say to each other 'do better', but rather say 'here's an idea for us to work together better'.

Re:Stubs

After the creation of many thousands of pages like this one Bábhún Hamaltún with just one sentence a couple of years ago, we had some reflection on stubs on Uicipeid as a small language wiki (the discussion here in English/Gaelic). The main points are

* there isn't a large body of users who will come along to proofread/correct/build on stubs. see this list of short pages Duilleagan Goirid which haven't grown for years. A good example is Broth which, apart from interwiki links, hasn't had any substance added to it since it was created in 2006. See also the oldest pages: Duilleagan as sìne. Realistically, even if there were 10 times the number of editors here, we still wouldn't match the functionality of large language wikis. The discussion mentioned above references even relatively large languages e.g. Dutch who have created policies to address this.

* Since you last contributed regularly, we've had a spate of machine translated gobbledegook pages. This has raised our awareness of quality control on the site.

* We'd like to be on a 'virtuous cycle' of trying to improve content to make Uicipeid more attractive to readers > hopefully leading to more editors > hopefully improving the content > and back to the start again.

* Those of us who are the most active editors are aware that we have also created stubs in the past and that the idea of 'minimum content' should not be about shaming 'bad users' but trying to encourage good habits in all of us.

Some ideas

Here are some ideas I've had of how your useful contributions can be further supported:

* Wikicode:

Just last week at a conference I learnt a piece of code that can automatically retrieve updated information from WikiData. I was still drafting a description of it to share with everyone here, but basically this code  shows the current Head of Government in the UK e.g.. It does so by drawing information from Wikidata. By changing the P and Q values, it could automatically update population stats, mayors etc. We can work out how we can get it to work to keep infoboxes up to date. If you're not familiar with Wikidata, we can talk about how it functions (It means info can be changed once for many languages rather than doing it manually!).

*Short pages

As I noted earlier, we have a lot of short pages and lots of them are Irish towns. If you were interested, your knowledge of adding images, infoboxes and content would be greatly appreciated in helping building these up. Please let me know if this is an area you'd like to work on. There are Scottish towns and many Nova Scotian town pages as well that could do with being developed beyond stubs.

* Expansion

Are there any other useful US sources that would help expand the information where we could help with the Gaelic phrasing: e.g. on the model of 'Tha x daoine a' fuireach ann'? Anything on climate or politics that we could add?

Please let me know what you think.  --Susan.nls (an deasbaireachd) 20:28, 11 dhen Iuchar 2017 (UTC)


Deasbaireachd a' chleachdaiche:Varlaam

Hello, in response to your question about Le Monde's 100 Books of the Century: I'd go with '100 Leabhar an Linn (a rèir Le Monde/ le Le Monde). It's not very clear as which century isn't obvious, but that's the same in the original. You say you're going to do a Gaelic list, can I ask you to tell me a bit more about what this means? Are you going to put the table headings and languages in Gaelic only? What language are you going to put the book titles in? Thisissusanbell (talk) 13:10, 17 dhen Iuchar 2013 (UTC)

Hi Susan,

I am the rollbacker at Scots Wikipedia, by the way. And an admin candidate over there.

Now, I don't speak any Goidelic language (or Brythonic either), so I can't resolve the options implied here.

Many languages dislike the ambiguity in "century". Especially since we're at 2013 already. Time flies.

So it is common, or even normal, to add a "20" or "XX" to the title, depending on the language's style for naming centuries.

If you personally prefer that, that's fine. Feel free. A local speaker makes a decision; other locals follow his or her lead. 90% of Wikipedians read what is presented to them without interacting with it.

The languages column in English: I wrote that, but only in reaction to a nationality column added by a Korean IP user. The nationality column became a source of endless controversy, and accusations of OR, so eventually I just nuked that column.

I actually work from the original version of the page with no Languages column.

Looking up 100 titles and authors' names (their names can change: H.G. Wells, Herbert, Herbert George) is tons of work in a language you don't speak.

And language names? To capitalize, or not to capitalize?

I already did the hard part, the book titles.

As a manager, you know it is good to let your staff buy into the project they are working on. You don't answer every question an underling presents. You allow him to formulate his own response, and then he has a greater level of commitment to his own decision.

So if a local user after me adds the Languages column, that's great. That has happened.

I don't need to do that personally. I can read Greek, Cyrillic, Arabic and so on, so I should be spending my time on an Armenian page, not simply adding "Beurla" to a Gaelic page.

Anyone can add Beurla; not anyone can figure out how to read Armenian.

(This PC needed a restart.)

Wikipedia is supposed to be collaborative; I do the parts I can do, others do the parts they feel comfortable doing.

Book titles: I don't speak 40 languages. I don't believe anyone in history has spoken 40 languages.

I translate the page, not the titles. Trying to translate titles would be presumptuous and absurd and wrong.

I compile the information that already exists, in gdwiki, in this instance.

Languages that don't have book information, Twi or Fulani or Mongol, I don't do those. There's nothing to compile. Even Hindi and Chinese, there is not much here at WP.

With Gaelic, most Gaelic speakers also speak English. And a Gael will know English before he knows French.

If a Gaelic speaker wants to read one of these books, in practice, he will be looking, I assume, for an English-language copy at the Inverness Public Library.

Fine. That's reality.

Some of the books, children's books (Little Prince, Asterix the Gaul) might actually have a printed copy in Gaelic. Great. Hound of the Baskervilles. It's 100 years old. Everyone loves Sherlock Holmes. Hopefully there is a printed Gaelic edition of that.

I am an engineer. So I create a working page.

So that means I have a bunch of working links to enwiki pages, supplemented by gdwiki data.

Now, what a foreign language book is called in any language is language-dependent.

Some languages translate titles; some use the original title.

Gaelic will have its own convention, unbeknownst to me.

Quite possibly that convention is to refer to a book by its (readily available) English name, and talk about the book in Gaelic.

But that is up to you and the Gaelic speakers. Different Wikipedia projects handle this matter differently, and some projects handle it inconsistently: some pages with an original language title, some pages with a translated title.

So, have I answered your questions?

Sorry for being in a talkative mood today for some reason.

In Toronto, Varlaam (talk) 17:45, 17 dhen Iuchar 2013 (UTC)

:Hello, Ma question aboot the table and the names o the leids wis pairtly to understaund better whit somebody wi no Gaelic wis plannin tae dae on a Gaelic page! But ah get noo the 'compiling' work yer plannin tae dae. Ma question aboot which leid ye were gonnae pit the titles in wis because there's bin a stooshie aboot that afore here and a policy wis agreed. (essentially if it hasnae been published in Gaelic the original language o publication is used then annotated e.g. Vingt mille lieues sous les mers (Fichead Mìle Lèigean fon Mhuir, 1870; air fhoillseachadh mar Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea sa Bheurla) in case yer curious.

:so, anent the ambiguity o'er the hunderyear: ah hink a literal translation o Le Monde 's original title is maist appropriate as a title, specifying that it is Le Monde 's list:

::* '100 Leabhar an Linn' le Le Monde

:The content can explain which century:

::*'S e an liosta 100 Leabhar an Linn liosta den 100 leabhar as fheàrr san 20mh linn a rèir cunntas-bheachd a rinneadh ann an 1999 leis a' bhùth Fhrangach Fnac agus am pàipear-naidheachd Le Monde. Bho liosta de 200 leabhar, fhreagair 17,000 Frangaich a' cheist 'Dè na leabhraichean a mhaireas nur cuimhne? (' Quels livres sont restés dans votre mémoire? ')

:But ah didnae mind addin in the wee bits o Gaelic content if yer daein the rest o the page.

:Thisissusanbell (talk) 19:55, 18 dhen Iuchar 2013 (UTC)

::Good God, a real Scots speaker. You are my heroine.

::There are none at scowiki, it's Americans, Canadians and Europeans. We don't even have Scots ancestry!

::The original gang of Scots all retired years ago.

::Ok, I'll set up the page and let you know.

::Varlaam (talk) 20:33, 23 dhen Iuchar 2013 (UTC)

:::hah hah! Ah dinnae ken if that's hilarious or pure sad. Ah'd say ah'm 'passive bilingual' when it comes tae Scots (Scots on ma faither's side, Gaels on ma mither's). Ma scrivin isnae as good as ma Gaelic. Seein as hoo the Gaelic wiki is already ma best procrastination tool an aw, ah better stay oot ae the Scots yin! Thisissusanbell (talk) 15:47, 26 dhen Iuchar 2013 (UTC)

::::100 Leabhraichean na Linn le Le Monde - Scottish Gaelic

::::Leabhraichean is the plural of leabhar. Linn is feminine so takes "na" as the genitive article.

::::Morag (talk) 10:14, 20 dhen t-Sultain 2013 (UTC)

:::::Hi a Mhòrag, Chleachd mi 'leabhar' air sgàth gu bheil an singilte àbhaisteach as dèidh 'fichead', 'ceud' msaa. Airson dearbhadh, dh'fheuch mi '100 caora'/'100 caoraich', '100 taigh'/'100 taighean' '100 saighdear'/'100 saighdearan' msaa ann an Google agus bha barrachd toraidhean aig a' chiad dhiubh a dh'aindeoin gur e '100' an àite 'ceud' a tha sgrìobhte. Ann an Dwelly agus Am Faclair Beag, tha 'linn' fireann, is lean mi iadsan. /  I used 'leabhar' to follow the pattern of singular forms being used after a hundred, which Google results suggest as the norm. In Dwelly's dictionary and Am Faclair Beag, 'linn' is masculine so I follow them. Thisissusanbell (talk) 13:39, 20 dhen t-Sultain 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for asking, but unfortunately I decided a while ago that I won't do translations.Jhendin (talk) 12:33, 20 dhen Iuchar 2013 (UTC)


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A charaid, Fàilte air ais à Uicipeid!</br> Tha mi 'n dòchas gun còrd e riut an leabhar-eòlais seo a thogail còmhla rinn. Mòran taing airson an obair a rinn thu air Naomh Bhaileintin. Ma tha ceistean sam bith agad, nach cuir thu fios thugamsa air an duilleag deasbaireachd agam (an-seo), no air Doras na Coimhearsnachd far an faic an luchd-cleachdaidh eile teachdaireachdan. </br>
'S dòcha gum bi e feumail dhut cuideachd am fiosrachadh ann an Cobhair agus Poileasaidhean a leughadh. Tha mise ag obair mar Uicipeidiche na Gàidhlig air pròiseact ùr. Bidh mi a' ruith iomairtean agus tachartasan am bliadhna gus tha mi 'n dòchas gun cuidich 's brosnaich iad thu! Susan.nls (an deasbaireachd) 21:54, 9 dhen Ghearran 2017 (UTC)

Mòran taing a Shiùsaidh! --Romaniac~gdwiki (an deasbaireachd) 20:49, 1 dhen Mhàrt 2017 (UTC)