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10/28/2021 20:03:39
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10/28/2021 20:07:18
simplification?
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melzer
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yes I'm too confused to understand this
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jan Niku
10/28/2021 20:08:27
how about combining all of those constants first?
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jan Niku
10/28/2021 20:08:47
looks like you have a $12$, a $- \frac{2}{5}$ and a $3$
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**jan Niku**
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jan Niku
10/28/2021 20:08:58
what do you get when you multiply all those together
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melzer
10/28/2021 20:10:01
36?
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jan Niku
10/28/2021 20:10:22
that doesnt sound right :thonk:
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jan Niku
10/28/2021 20:10:28
i think 12 * 3 is gonna be 36
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jan Niku
10/28/2021 20:10:35
but then you also need to multiply in the -2/5
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melzer
10/28/2021 20:10:58
🤔
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jan Niku
10/28/2021 20:11:11
I'm suggesting to move the constants just because theyre one kind of thing is all 😄
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jan Niku
10/28/2021 20:11:28
theres no addition or anything in this problem so those parentheses are more suggestions than anything
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jan Niku
10/28/2021 20:11:42
its just multiplication, which is commutative, so you can move any factor around wherever you want
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jan Niku
10/28/2021 20:11:48
it may make the problem a bit more approachable
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jan Niku
10/28/2021 20:12:00
you could start with the x's or y's instead, if you don't like the constants
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melzer
10/28/2021 20:12:17
ok
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10/28/2021 20:15:09
.close
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hadron collide your mom
10/29/2021 06:05:16
How'd i find the stationary point for this funciton?
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hadron collide your mom
10/29/2021 06:05:25
i'll take the derivative and set it to zero
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hadron collide your mom
10/29/2021 06:05:42
but i don't remember how to get the roots of a cubic function
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Euclid31415
10/29/2021 06:06:43
That cubic would not be that hard to factor.
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hadron collide your mom
10/29/2021 06:07:52
my first idea was to factor x^2 out, i.e. x^2(4x + 12) = 0
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hadron collide your mom
10/29/2021 06:08:09
but it feels like a useless maneuver
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Euclid31415
10/29/2021 06:08:27
That -9 will disappear
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ramonov
10/29/2021 06:08:29
you didn't differentiate properly
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Euclid31415
10/29/2021 06:09:04
Now the roots are clear
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hadron collide your mom
10/29/2021 06:09:09
yeah
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.close
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Ainz
10/29/2021 06:43:27
integral of 1/x from -1 to 1
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Ainz
10/29/2021 06:44:29
I tried to do it using the presented limits, and ended up with the result -iπ. Is there a way to get a real finite value?
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Ainz
10/29/2021 06:45:16
Note that you can split the integral into two similar integral -1 to 0 and 0 to 1
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waler
10/29/2021 06:45:16
ehhh how did you get to that?
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waler
10/29/2021 06:45:22
the integral doesnt converge
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Frosty_
10/29/2021 06:45:37
~w integrate 1/x dx from -1 to 1
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waler
10/29/2021 06:45:41
did you forgot the absolute value sign for the natural log?
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Ainz
10/29/2021 06:45:51
Oof
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Ainz
10/29/2021 06:46:19
I just put ln(-1) =iπ 😅
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Ainz
10/29/2021 06:46:29
Forgot about the absolute value
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waler
10/29/2021 06:46:35
anyway, it doesnt converge
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Frosty_
10/29/2021 06:46:43
right, but you have to account for the singularity at x=0
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waler
10/29/2021 06:47:02
as lim_{x -> 0} ln(x) goes to -infty
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Ainz
10/29/2021 06:47:21
Umm, yeah ln(0) approaches -infinity
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waler
10/29/2021 06:47:38
yes, so where was your -infty?
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waler
10/29/2021 06:47:43
dont forget about it
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Ainz
10/29/2021 06:48:20
So it's basically infinity - infinity
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waler
10/29/2021 06:48:26
which is definitely not 0
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waler
10/29/2021 06:48:30
be careful
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Ainz
10/29/2021 06:48:35
Unfortunately 😅
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Frosty_
10/29/2021 06:48:46
principal value is 0 right
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waler
10/29/2021 06:48:49
since you are dealing with an indeterminate form
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Ainz
10/29/2021 06:48:53
Wish I could just cancel them out
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waler
10/29/2021 06:48:55
you have to work it around a bit
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Ainz
10/29/2021 06:49:24
I am listening
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waler
10/29/2021 06:49:53
basically you are having $\ln|-1| - \lim_{x\to 0}(\ln|x|) + \lim_{x\to 0}(\ln|x|) - \ln|1|$
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10/29/2021 06:50:03
**waler**
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waler
10/29/2021 06:50:21
now you have to put those two limit together
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waler
10/29/2021 06:50:53
the ln|-1| and ln|1| is just 0, so dont need to worry about it
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waler
10/29/2021 06:50:57
and then just evaluate
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waler
10/29/2021 06:51:14
another way around this is that you can notice that the integral of 1/x from 0 to 1 doesnt converge
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Ainz
10/29/2021 06:51:23
And then cancel ln|x| - ln|x|?
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waler
10/29/2021 06:51:26
so it will be the same for the other integral
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waler
10/29/2021 06:51:56
oh wait, actually, excuse me, a bit of wrong working out there
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waler
10/29/2021 06:52:28
its actually limit as x tends to 0- and the other is tending to 0+
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waler
10/29/2021 06:52:33
so you cant add them up like that
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waler
10/29/2021 06:52:47
sorry, bit of miscalculation there
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Ainz
10/29/2021 06:52:57
So
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waler
10/29/2021 06:52:58
so basically, since one of the integral does not converge already
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waler
10/29/2021 06:53:03
the answer will not converge
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waler
10/29/2021 06:53:08
no matter what the other integral is
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Ainz
10/29/2021 06:53:08
It's still infinity - infinity
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waler
10/29/2021 06:53:20
yes, but one of the integral diverges
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waler
10/29/2021 06:53:28
hence the original integral diverges
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waler
10/29/2021 06:53:39
basically, you have to understand the two integral as a whole
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waler
10/29/2021 06:53:52
if one of them diverges, the answer is divergence
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Ainz
10/29/2021 06:54:10
Yeah ok 😊
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Ainz
10/29/2021 06:55:05
.close
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wiljamski
11/03/2021 10:17:54
Hello, does anyone know the Lagrange method?
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11/03/2021 10:18:39
https://cdn.discordapp.c…8260/unknown.png
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wiljamski
11/03/2021 10:18:45
ill post my work in a sec
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andrehtan
11/03/2021 10:21:02
I can try to help, just learned it last month
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wiljamski
11/03/2021 10:21:18
alright, my calcs are messy af
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wiljamski
11/03/2021 10:22:41
ah nvm im just looking for someone to confirm the results i got
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wiljamski
11/03/2021 10:23:04
but baseline is
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wiljamski
11/03/2021 10:23:22
i got x=13,142857...
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wiljamski
11/03/2021 10:23:45
and y=5,285714
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andrehtan
11/03/2021 10:23:48
ok i'll try gimme a moment
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wiljamski
11/03/2021 10:24:04
which adds up to 200x+600y=5799,
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andrehtan
11/03/2021 10:31:38
I got x=8 and y=9
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andrehtan
11/03/2021 10:31:43
sorry y=7
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andrehtan
11/03/2021 10:32:02
and 200x + 600y = 5800
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wiljamski
11/03/2021 10:32:14
huh
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wiljamski
11/03/2021 10:32:20
yeah i porbably got it wrong then
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wiljamski
11/03/2021 10:32:22
thank you
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andrehtan
11/03/2021 10:32:34
i could be wrong
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andrehtan
11/03/2021 10:32:49
if you wanna discuss your calculations we can do that too
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wiljamski
11/03/2021 10:33:02
sure
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wiljamski
11/03/2021 10:33:13
priv call?
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andrehtan
11/03/2021 10:33:33
I'm actually at a meeting at work lmao, send me screenshots of your work
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