askcarguys/test.json

{"post_id":"q3xr3f","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Is the parking brake supposed to hold the vehicle on a slope? My 2021 Tundra (automatic transmission ofc) is in the shop today for it's 5k mile service and I told them the parking brake doesn't hold the truck in my driveway. The service manager told me the mechanic will tell him it's not supposed to. He's writing it up anyway, but said don't hold my breath.   It was my rudimentary understanding of vehicles, that the reason you use the parking brake is to keep pressure off of the transmission parking pin. Every vehicle I've ever driven had a parking brake that would hold the vehicle, including my 2014 tundra before this one.  Is this guy blowing smoke, or is there some truth about what he's saying?","c_root_id_A":"hfupwnb","c_root_id_B":"hfupuw6","created_at_utc_A":1633700477,"created_at_utc_B":1633700453,"score_A":71,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Holding the vehicle on a slope is pretty much the whole purpose of the parking brake.  You are correct.","human_ref_B":"That's how I've always used it in automatics. Is your e-brake electric or manual? If manual it may need to be tightened. I had to do that on an old Mazda but I'd expect more from a brand new Toyota.  If you're not having luck I'd try to test drive another to see if it has the same issue.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":24.0,"score_ratio":35.5}
{"post_id":"q3xr3f","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Is the parking brake supposed to hold the vehicle on a slope? My 2021 Tundra (automatic transmission ofc) is in the shop today for it's 5k mile service and I told them the parking brake doesn't hold the truck in my driveway. The service manager told me the mechanic will tell him it's not supposed to. He's writing it up anyway, but said don't hold my breath.   It was my rudimentary understanding of vehicles, that the reason you use the parking brake is to keep pressure off of the transmission parking pin. Every vehicle I've ever driven had a parking brake that would hold the vehicle, including my 2014 tundra before this one.  Is this guy blowing smoke, or is there some truth about what he's saying?","c_root_id_A":"hfupuw6","c_root_id_B":"hfuq2e8","created_at_utc_A":1633700453,"created_at_utc_B":1633700553,"score_A":2,"score_B":35,"human_ref_A":"That's how I've always used it in automatics. Is your e-brake electric or manual? If manual it may need to be tightened. I had to do that on an old Mazda but I'd expect more from a brand new Toyota.  If you're not having luck I'd try to test drive another to see if it has the same issue.","human_ref_B":"So they're telling you the PARKING brake isn't supposed to stop the car from moving when PARKED.  Ask them if the car should accelerate when you press the accelerator.  The brake might just need an adjustment. It's something you could even try. There's usually a way to adjust it around the pedal. If it's not a pedal then the adjustment would be at the brakes themselves. At least that's my understanding, someone please correct me if I'm wrong.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":100.0,"score_ratio":17.5}
{"post_id":"q3xr3f","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Is the parking brake supposed to hold the vehicle on a slope? My 2021 Tundra (automatic transmission ofc) is in the shop today for it's 5k mile service and I told them the parking brake doesn't hold the truck in my driveway. The service manager told me the mechanic will tell him it's not supposed to. He's writing it up anyway, but said don't hold my breath.   It was my rudimentary understanding of vehicles, that the reason you use the parking brake is to keep pressure off of the transmission parking pin. Every vehicle I've ever driven had a parking brake that would hold the vehicle, including my 2014 tundra before this one.  Is this guy blowing smoke, or is there some truth about what he's saying?","c_root_id_A":"hfuqjur","c_root_id_B":"hfuqgfz","created_at_utc_A":1633700784,"created_at_utc_B":1633700741,"score_A":17,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Service managers have zero automotive technical knowledge requirements. Don't listen until the technician says it's not possible, then escalate it.","human_ref_B":"It is. Parking brake with the transmission on Park (P) or 1st if manual, is the actual correct way to park every time.    If the parking brake is not grabbing it may be the cable or the pads, check your rear pads because being low might be the reason, also be aware that cars have different types of braking system \\[drum, disk, or a combination of both\\].","labels":1,"seconds_difference":43.0,"score_ratio":2.125}
{"post_id":"q3xr3f","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Is the parking brake supposed to hold the vehicle on a slope? My 2021 Tundra (automatic transmission ofc) is in the shop today for it's 5k mile service and I told them the parking brake doesn't hold the truck in my driveway. The service manager told me the mechanic will tell him it's not supposed to. He's writing it up anyway, but said don't hold my breath.   It was my rudimentary understanding of vehicles, that the reason you use the parking brake is to keep pressure off of the transmission parking pin. Every vehicle I've ever driven had a parking brake that would hold the vehicle, including my 2014 tundra before this one.  Is this guy blowing smoke, or is there some truth about what he's saying?","c_root_id_A":"hfuqjur","c_root_id_B":"hfupuw6","created_at_utc_A":1633700784,"created_at_utc_B":1633700453,"score_A":17,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Service managers have zero automotive technical knowledge requirements. Don't listen until the technician says it's not possible, then escalate it.","human_ref_B":"That's how I've always used it in automatics. Is your e-brake electric or manual? If manual it may need to be tightened. I had to do that on an old Mazda but I'd expect more from a brand new Toyota.  If you're not having luck I'd try to test drive another to see if it has the same issue.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":331.0,"score_ratio":8.5}
{"post_id":"q3xr3f","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Is the parking brake supposed to hold the vehicle on a slope? My 2021 Tundra (automatic transmission ofc) is in the shop today for it's 5k mile service and I told them the parking brake doesn't hold the truck in my driveway. The service manager told me the mechanic will tell him it's not supposed to. He's writing it up anyway, but said don't hold my breath.   It was my rudimentary understanding of vehicles, that the reason you use the parking brake is to keep pressure off of the transmission parking pin. Every vehicle I've ever driven had a parking brake that would hold the vehicle, including my 2014 tundra before this one.  Is this guy blowing smoke, or is there some truth about what he's saying?","c_root_id_A":"hfuudo2","c_root_id_B":"hfv78xe","created_at_utc_A":1633702556,"created_at_utc_B":1633708081,"score_A":8,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"What state are you in? In my state, the law states the parking brake must hold the vehicle still on a 20% grade while loaded up to the max GVW.","human_ref_B":"This mechanic is either lazy, a moron, or perhaps both.  You are absolutely right to want to keep pressure off of the parking pin on a slope.  That's EXACTLY what it's for.  Shifting a car out of park on a steep incline every day is just asking to break that pin at some point and send the car down the hill.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5525.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"q3xr3f","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Is the parking brake supposed to hold the vehicle on a slope? My 2021 Tundra (automatic transmission ofc) is in the shop today for it's 5k mile service and I told them the parking brake doesn't hold the truck in my driveway. The service manager told me the mechanic will tell him it's not supposed to. He's writing it up anyway, but said don't hold my breath.   It was my rudimentary understanding of vehicles, that the reason you use the parking brake is to keep pressure off of the transmission parking pin. Every vehicle I've ever driven had a parking brake that would hold the vehicle, including my 2014 tundra before this one.  Is this guy blowing smoke, or is there some truth about what he's saying?","c_root_id_A":"hfuqgfz","c_root_id_B":"hfv78xe","created_at_utc_A":1633700741,"created_at_utc_B":1633708081,"score_A":8,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"It is. Parking brake with the transmission on Park (P) or 1st if manual, is the actual correct way to park every time.    If the parking brake is not grabbing it may be the cable or the pads, check your rear pads because being low might be the reason, also be aware that cars have different types of braking system \\[drum, disk, or a combination of both\\].","human_ref_B":"This mechanic is either lazy, a moron, or perhaps both.  You are absolutely right to want to keep pressure off of the parking pin on a slope.  That's EXACTLY what it's for.  Shifting a car out of park on a steep incline every day is just asking to break that pin at some point and send the car down the hill.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7340.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"q3xr3f","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Is the parking brake supposed to hold the vehicle on a slope? My 2021 Tundra (automatic transmission ofc) is in the shop today for it's 5k mile service and I told them the parking brake doesn't hold the truck in my driveway. The service manager told me the mechanic will tell him it's not supposed to. He's writing it up anyway, but said don't hold my breath.   It was my rudimentary understanding of vehicles, that the reason you use the parking brake is to keep pressure off of the transmission parking pin. Every vehicle I've ever driven had a parking brake that would hold the vehicle, including my 2014 tundra before this one.  Is this guy blowing smoke, or is there some truth about what he's saying?","c_root_id_A":"hfv78xe","c_root_id_B":"hfv47i7","created_at_utc_A":1633708081,"created_at_utc_B":1633706805,"score_A":12,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"This mechanic is either lazy, a moron, or perhaps both.  You are absolutely right to want to keep pressure off of the parking pin on a slope.  That's EXACTLY what it's for.  Shifting a car out of park on a steep incline every day is just asking to break that pin at some point and send the car down the hill.","human_ref_B":"Yes, your parking brake should hold the vehicle still, even on a slope. In San Francisco, where much of the city is built on very steep rolling hills, the parking brake is what keeps those cars from rolling around and\/or grinding out their 'park' gear.  Sounds like your Service Advisor is full of shit, and\/or your mechanic needs to go back to school as this is pretty basic stuff, and I wouldn't trust a mechanic who told me that to work on my vehicle correctly.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1276.0,"score_ratio":2.4}
{"post_id":"q3xr3f","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Is the parking brake supposed to hold the vehicle on a slope? My 2021 Tundra (automatic transmission ofc) is in the shop today for it's 5k mile service and I told them the parking brake doesn't hold the truck in my driveway. The service manager told me the mechanic will tell him it's not supposed to. He's writing it up anyway, but said don't hold my breath.   It was my rudimentary understanding of vehicles, that the reason you use the parking brake is to keep pressure off of the transmission parking pin. Every vehicle I've ever driven had a parking brake that would hold the vehicle, including my 2014 tundra before this one.  Is this guy blowing smoke, or is there some truth about what he's saying?","c_root_id_A":"hfutaak","c_root_id_B":"hfv78xe","created_at_utc_A":1633702057,"created_at_utc_B":1633708081,"score_A":3,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Blowing smoke","human_ref_B":"This mechanic is either lazy, a moron, or perhaps both.  You are absolutely right to want to keep pressure off of the parking pin on a slope.  That's EXACTLY what it's for.  Shifting a car out of park on a steep incline every day is just asking to break that pin at some point and send the car down the hill.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6024.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"q3xr3f","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Is the parking brake supposed to hold the vehicle on a slope? My 2021 Tundra (automatic transmission ofc) is in the shop today for it's 5k mile service and I told them the parking brake doesn't hold the truck in my driveway. The service manager told me the mechanic will tell him it's not supposed to. He's writing it up anyway, but said don't hold my breath.   It was my rudimentary understanding of vehicles, that the reason you use the parking brake is to keep pressure off of the transmission parking pin. Every vehicle I've ever driven had a parking brake that would hold the vehicle, including my 2014 tundra before this one.  Is this guy blowing smoke, or is there some truth about what he's saying?","c_root_id_A":"hfv78xe","c_root_id_B":"hfupuw6","created_at_utc_A":1633708081,"created_at_utc_B":1633700453,"score_A":12,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"This mechanic is either lazy, a moron, or perhaps both.  You are absolutely right to want to keep pressure off of the parking pin on a slope.  That's EXACTLY what it's for.  Shifting a car out of park on a steep incline every day is just asking to break that pin at some point and send the car down the hill.","human_ref_B":"That's how I've always used it in automatics. Is your e-brake electric or manual? If manual it may need to be tightened. I had to do that on an old Mazda but I'd expect more from a brand new Toyota.  If you're not having luck I'd try to test drive another to see if it has the same issue.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7628.0,"score_ratio":6.0}
{"post_id":"q3xr3f","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Is the parking brake supposed to hold the vehicle on a slope? My 2021 Tundra (automatic transmission ofc) is in the shop today for it's 5k mile service and I told them the parking brake doesn't hold the truck in my driveway. The service manager told me the mechanic will tell him it's not supposed to. He's writing it up anyway, but said don't hold my breath.   It was my rudimentary understanding of vehicles, that the reason you use the parking brake is to keep pressure off of the transmission parking pin. Every vehicle I've ever driven had a parking brake that would hold the vehicle, including my 2014 tundra before this one.  Is this guy blowing smoke, or is there some truth about what he's saying?","c_root_id_A":"hfutaak","c_root_id_B":"hfuudo2","created_at_utc_A":1633702057,"created_at_utc_B":1633702556,"score_A":3,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Blowing smoke","human_ref_B":"What state are you in? In my state, the law states the parking brake must hold the vehicle still on a 20% grade while loaded up to the max GVW.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":499.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"q3xr3f","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Is the parking brake supposed to hold the vehicle on a slope? My 2021 Tundra (automatic transmission ofc) is in the shop today for it's 5k mile service and I told them the parking brake doesn't hold the truck in my driveway. The service manager told me the mechanic will tell him it's not supposed to. He's writing it up anyway, but said don't hold my breath.   It was my rudimentary understanding of vehicles, that the reason you use the parking brake is to keep pressure off of the transmission parking pin. Every vehicle I've ever driven had a parking brake that would hold the vehicle, including my 2014 tundra before this one.  Is this guy blowing smoke, or is there some truth about what he's saying?","c_root_id_A":"hfuudo2","c_root_id_B":"hfupuw6","created_at_utc_A":1633702556,"created_at_utc_B":1633700453,"score_A":8,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"What state are you in? In my state, the law states the parking brake must hold the vehicle still on a 20% grade while loaded up to the max GVW.","human_ref_B":"That's how I've always used it in automatics. Is your e-brake electric or manual? If manual it may need to be tightened. I had to do that on an old Mazda but I'd expect more from a brand new Toyota.  If you're not having luck I'd try to test drive another to see if it has the same issue.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2103.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"q3xr3f","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Is the parking brake supposed to hold the vehicle on a slope? My 2021 Tundra (automatic transmission ofc) is in the shop today for it's 5k mile service and I told them the parking brake doesn't hold the truck in my driveway. The service manager told me the mechanic will tell him it's not supposed to. He's writing it up anyway, but said don't hold my breath.   It was my rudimentary understanding of vehicles, that the reason you use the parking brake is to keep pressure off of the transmission parking pin. Every vehicle I've ever driven had a parking brake that would hold the vehicle, including my 2014 tundra before this one.  Is this guy blowing smoke, or is there some truth about what he's saying?","c_root_id_A":"hfuqgfz","c_root_id_B":"hfupuw6","created_at_utc_A":1633700741,"created_at_utc_B":1633700453,"score_A":8,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"It is. Parking brake with the transmission on Park (P) or 1st if manual, is the actual correct way to park every time.    If the parking brake is not grabbing it may be the cable or the pads, check your rear pads because being low might be the reason, also be aware that cars have different types of braking system \\[drum, disk, or a combination of both\\].","human_ref_B":"That's how I've always used it in automatics. Is your e-brake electric or manual? If manual it may need to be tightened. I had to do that on an old Mazda but I'd expect more from a brand new Toyota.  If you're not having luck I'd try to test drive another to see if it has the same issue.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":288.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"q3xr3f","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Is the parking brake supposed to hold the vehicle on a slope? My 2021 Tundra (automatic transmission ofc) is in the shop today for it's 5k mile service and I told them the parking brake doesn't hold the truck in my driveway. The service manager told me the mechanic will tell him it's not supposed to. He's writing it up anyway, but said don't hold my breath.   It was my rudimentary understanding of vehicles, that the reason you use the parking brake is to keep pressure off of the transmission parking pin. Every vehicle I've ever driven had a parking brake that would hold the vehicle, including my 2014 tundra before this one.  Is this guy blowing smoke, or is there some truth about what he's saying?","c_root_id_A":"hfv47i7","c_root_id_B":"hfutaak","created_at_utc_A":1633706805,"created_at_utc_B":1633702057,"score_A":5,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Yes, your parking brake should hold the vehicle still, even on a slope. In San Francisco, where much of the city is built on very steep rolling hills, the parking brake is what keeps those cars from rolling around and\/or grinding out their 'park' gear.  Sounds like your Service Advisor is full of shit, and\/or your mechanic needs to go back to school as this is pretty basic stuff, and I wouldn't trust a mechanic who told me that to work on my vehicle correctly.","human_ref_B":"Blowing smoke","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4748.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"q3xr3f","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Is the parking brake supposed to hold the vehicle on a slope? My 2021 Tundra (automatic transmission ofc) is in the shop today for it's 5k mile service and I told them the parking brake doesn't hold the truck in my driveway. The service manager told me the mechanic will tell him it's not supposed to. He's writing it up anyway, but said don't hold my breath.   It was my rudimentary understanding of vehicles, that the reason you use the parking brake is to keep pressure off of the transmission parking pin. Every vehicle I've ever driven had a parking brake that would hold the vehicle, including my 2014 tundra before this one.  Is this guy blowing smoke, or is there some truth about what he's saying?","c_root_id_A":"hfv47i7","c_root_id_B":"hfupuw6","created_at_utc_A":1633706805,"created_at_utc_B":1633700453,"score_A":5,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Yes, your parking brake should hold the vehicle still, even on a slope. In San Francisco, where much of the city is built on very steep rolling hills, the parking brake is what keeps those cars from rolling around and\/or grinding out their 'park' gear.  Sounds like your Service Advisor is full of shit, and\/or your mechanic needs to go back to school as this is pretty basic stuff, and I wouldn't trust a mechanic who told me that to work on my vehicle correctly.","human_ref_B":"That's how I've always used it in automatics. Is your e-brake electric or manual? If manual it may need to be tightened. I had to do that on an old Mazda but I'd expect more from a brand new Toyota.  If you're not having luck I'd try to test drive another to see if it has the same issue.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6352.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"q3xr3f","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.98,"history":"Is the parking brake supposed to hold the vehicle on a slope? My 2021 Tundra (automatic transmission ofc) is in the shop today for it's 5k mile service and I told them the parking brake doesn't hold the truck in my driveway. The service manager told me the mechanic will tell him it's not supposed to. He's writing it up anyway, but said don't hold my breath.   It was my rudimentary understanding of vehicles, that the reason you use the parking brake is to keep pressure off of the transmission parking pin. Every vehicle I've ever driven had a parking brake that would hold the vehicle, including my 2014 tundra before this one.  Is this guy blowing smoke, or is there some truth about what he's saying?","c_root_id_A":"hfupuw6","c_root_id_B":"hfutaak","created_at_utc_A":1633700453,"created_at_utc_B":1633702057,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"That's how I've always used it in automatics. Is your e-brake electric or manual? If manual it may need to be tightened. I had to do that on an old Mazda but I'd expect more from a brand new Toyota.  If you're not having luck I'd try to test drive another to see if it has the same issue.","human_ref_B":"Blowing smoke","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1604.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"ie08io","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Which luxury brand & model depreciates the least, and why?","c_root_id_A":"g2ccpqd","c_root_id_B":"g2clezz","created_at_utc_A":1598029001,"created_at_utc_B":1598032976,"score_A":12,"score_B":20,"human_ref_A":"Maserati.  Maserati used their cambiocorsa transmission in their car platforms from 2002-2007 which caused their $100,000 price tags to be worth less than $40,000 2 years later. The cars were problematic (you were told not to use the reverse function as it would grind the transmission, the battery goes flat within 72-96 hours of not being driven because the electronics are always on in them)   Now a days, people aren't going with them because servicing one is almost as expensive as a Ferrari ($2,400 front brake job, $600 oil changes) and their interiors are glorified Chryslers :\/  All that and I still want a GranTurismo Sport","human_ref_B":"Porsche's hold their value surprisingly well. I guess there are a lot of people who appreciate the styling and driving dynamics and won't hesitate to buy a used Boxster or 911. Even the SUVs seem to hold their value.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3975.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"l4oxn3","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Can you put an engine from one vehicle into another? Dumb question. Can you stick an engine from one car into another car of a different type? Like a truck motor in an SUV, or the other way around?","c_root_id_A":"gkpkv09","c_root_id_B":"gkpl33f","created_at_utc_A":1611585434,"created_at_utc_B":1611585544,"score_A":19,"score_B":51,"human_ref_A":"You can do pretty much anything if you\u2019re a good fabricater, but yes, sometimes they drop right in, sometimes you have to pay to get it to fit","human_ref_B":"Short answer: yes. This is typically known as an \"engine swap\".  There's a much longer answer about how complicated it can be, which cars are most suited for which kinds of engines, how special parts may need to be custom made from scratch, ECU flashing and tuning required, how it can adversely affect handling and reliability, and on and on and on.   But yes, it's possible. Go check YouTube for engine swap videos to get a sense of the process.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":110.0,"score_ratio":2.6842105263}
{"post_id":"l4oxn3","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Can you put an engine from one vehicle into another? Dumb question. Can you stick an engine from one car into another car of a different type? Like a truck motor in an SUV, or the other way around?","c_root_id_A":"gkptg38","c_root_id_B":"gkqeyre","created_at_utc_A":1611589471,"created_at_utc_B":1611598616,"score_A":4,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Depending on the engine and the car, you can actually buy kits to do this. It\u2019s fairly common to swap engines from newer cars into older classics to make your car more reliable, more efficient, etc. I\u2019m in the middle of an engine swap right now actually!","human_ref_B":"You can swap an LS into anything.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9145.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"l4oxn3","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.9,"history":"Can you put an engine from one vehicle into another? Dumb question. Can you stick an engine from one car into another car of a different type? Like a truck motor in an SUV, or the other way around?","c_root_id_A":"gkqeyre","c_root_id_B":"gkq9x6g","created_at_utc_A":1611598616,"created_at_utc_B":1611596444,"score_A":6,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"You can swap an LS into anything.","human_ref_B":"Yes a lot of people put corvette engine little cars","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2172.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"yfubtp","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Do mechanics in the US have to buy their own toolbox? I've seen some videos about mechanics quitting their job and taking their toolbox with them, is that really a thing that they have to pay for their own tools while working in a workshop?","c_root_id_A":"iu5akhj","c_root_id_B":"iu57apz","created_at_utc_A":1666978244,"created_at_utc_B":1666976952,"score_A":25,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Yes you are expected to provide your own tools.","human_ref_B":"Only 8 point sockets","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1292.0,"score_ratio":12.5}
{"post_id":"yfubtp","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Do mechanics in the US have to buy their own toolbox? I've seen some videos about mechanics quitting their job and taking their toolbox with them, is that really a thing that they have to pay for their own tools while working in a workshop?","c_root_id_A":"iu6a2wx","c_root_id_B":"iu5k9rf","created_at_utc_A":1666992950,"created_at_utc_B":1666982165,"score_A":12,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"Oh yea, and the tool truck shows up weekly and always happens to have something thatll make whatever job your working on easier. Just keep making that 50 dollar a week payment and theyll extend you all the credit you want.","human_ref_B":"most shops, yes. this is the case.   some specialty places will provide tools, but most standard repair places the techs bring their own.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":10785.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"yfubtp","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Do mechanics in the US have to buy their own toolbox? I've seen some videos about mechanics quitting their job and taking their toolbox with them, is that really a thing that they have to pay for their own tools while working in a workshop?","c_root_id_A":"iu5k9rf","c_root_id_B":"iu5fgz1","created_at_utc_A":1666982165,"created_at_utc_B":1666980222,"score_A":10,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"most shops, yes. this is the case.   some specialty places will provide tools, but most standard repair places the techs bring their own.","human_ref_B":"Depends on the workshop. It's very common though, and worksites that provide tools are limited to specialty businesses for the most part.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1943.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"yfubtp","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Do mechanics in the US have to buy their own toolbox? I've seen some videos about mechanics quitting their job and taking their toolbox with them, is that really a thing that they have to pay for their own tools while working in a workshop?","c_root_id_A":"iu57apz","c_root_id_B":"iu5k9rf","created_at_utc_A":1666976952,"created_at_utc_B":1666982165,"score_A":2,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"Only 8 point sockets","human_ref_B":"most shops, yes. this is the case.   some specialty places will provide tools, but most standard repair places the techs bring their own.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5213.0,"score_ratio":5.0}
{"post_id":"yfubtp","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Do mechanics in the US have to buy their own toolbox? I've seen some videos about mechanics quitting their job and taking their toolbox with them, is that really a thing that they have to pay for their own tools while working in a workshop?","c_root_id_A":"iu5fgz1","c_root_id_B":"iu6a2wx","created_at_utc_A":1666980222,"created_at_utc_B":1666992950,"score_A":6,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Depends on the workshop. It's very common though, and worksites that provide tools are limited to specialty businesses for the most part.","human_ref_B":"Oh yea, and the tool truck shows up weekly and always happens to have something thatll make whatever job your working on easier. Just keep making that 50 dollar a week payment and theyll extend you all the credit you want.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12728.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"yfubtp","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Do mechanics in the US have to buy their own toolbox? I've seen some videos about mechanics quitting their job and taking their toolbox with them, is that really a thing that they have to pay for their own tools while working in a workshop?","c_root_id_A":"iu63257","c_root_id_B":"iu6a2wx","created_at_utc_A":1666989897,"created_at_utc_B":1666992950,"score_A":3,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Yes almost always mechanics are required to pay for and provide their own tools.      Some states have laws in place about this for example California law says that if mechanics are required to provide their own tools they need to be paid at minimum $30hr (goes to $31 in a few months).  But most states it\u2019s just on the mechanic.","human_ref_B":"Oh yea, and the tool truck shows up weekly and always happens to have something thatll make whatever job your working on easier. Just keep making that 50 dollar a week payment and theyll extend you all the credit you want.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3053.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"yfubtp","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Do mechanics in the US have to buy their own toolbox? I've seen some videos about mechanics quitting their job and taking their toolbox with them, is that really a thing that they have to pay for their own tools while working in a workshop?","c_root_id_A":"iu57apz","c_root_id_B":"iu6a2wx","created_at_utc_A":1666976952,"created_at_utc_B":1666992950,"score_A":2,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Only 8 point sockets","human_ref_B":"Oh yea, and the tool truck shows up weekly and always happens to have something thatll make whatever job your working on easier. Just keep making that 50 dollar a week payment and theyll extend you all the credit you want.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15998.0,"score_ratio":6.0}
{"post_id":"yfubtp","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Do mechanics in the US have to buy their own toolbox? I've seen some videos about mechanics quitting their job and taking their toolbox with them, is that really a thing that they have to pay for their own tools while working in a workshop?","c_root_id_A":"iu57apz","c_root_id_B":"iu5fgz1","created_at_utc_A":1666976952,"created_at_utc_B":1666980222,"score_A":2,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Only 8 point sockets","human_ref_B":"Depends on the workshop. It's very common though, and worksites that provide tools are limited to specialty businesses for the most part.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3270.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"yfubtp","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Do mechanics in the US have to buy their own toolbox? I've seen some videos about mechanics quitting their job and taking their toolbox with them, is that really a thing that they have to pay for their own tools while working in a workshop?","c_root_id_A":"iu8glv2","c_root_id_B":"iu63257","created_at_utc_A":1667042080,"created_at_utc_B":1666989897,"score_A":5,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Working as a tech in the US since 2006, I'm well over 100k in tools.  When I need to move them, I rent a 26' box truck with a liftgate and fill the whole thing.  To be clear, most techs at the top of their field don't waste anywhere near that much money on tools.  I do a lot of specialized work that most people don't.    I have interviewed at a couple high end dealerships that require you to move into the existing toolbox because the whole shop has to look like a magazine cover, but I'd never take a job where the tools aren't mine.    Most techs destroy tools and equipment.  A shared tool is an abused tool, and I can't stand using damaged or filthy tools.  I'm much happier having my own tranny jack that's clean and works perfectly with no missing parts.  The rest of the guys fumble with the shop one that has seized parts, missing parts, and leaks oil all over itself.  For reasons I'll never understand, they have no problem with that.  I couldn't get a tech in my shop tell the manager it needs to be replaced even if I offered to pay them to do it.","human_ref_B":"Yes almost always mechanics are required to pay for and provide their own tools.      Some states have laws in place about this for example California law says that if mechanics are required to provide their own tools they need to be paid at minimum $30hr (goes to $31 in a few months).  But most states it\u2019s just on the mechanic.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":52183.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"yfubtp","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Do mechanics in the US have to buy their own toolbox? I've seen some videos about mechanics quitting their job and taking their toolbox with them, is that really a thing that they have to pay for their own tools while working in a workshop?","c_root_id_A":"iu8glv2","c_root_id_B":"iu57apz","created_at_utc_A":1667042080,"created_at_utc_B":1666976952,"score_A":5,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Working as a tech in the US since 2006, I'm well over 100k in tools.  When I need to move them, I rent a 26' box truck with a liftgate and fill the whole thing.  To be clear, most techs at the top of their field don't waste anywhere near that much money on tools.  I do a lot of specialized work that most people don't.    I have interviewed at a couple high end dealerships that require you to move into the existing toolbox because the whole shop has to look like a magazine cover, but I'd never take a job where the tools aren't mine.    Most techs destroy tools and equipment.  A shared tool is an abused tool, and I can't stand using damaged or filthy tools.  I'm much happier having my own tranny jack that's clean and works perfectly with no missing parts.  The rest of the guys fumble with the shop one that has seized parts, missing parts, and leaks oil all over itself.  For reasons I'll never understand, they have no problem with that.  I couldn't get a tech in my shop tell the manager it needs to be replaced even if I offered to pay them to do it.","human_ref_B":"Only 8 point sockets","labels":1,"seconds_difference":65128.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"yfubtp","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Do mechanics in the US have to buy their own toolbox? I've seen some videos about mechanics quitting their job and taking their toolbox with them, is that really a thing that they have to pay for their own tools while working in a workshop?","c_root_id_A":"iu8glv2","c_root_id_B":"iu6cyp1","created_at_utc_A":1667042080,"created_at_utc_B":1666994223,"score_A":5,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Working as a tech in the US since 2006, I'm well over 100k in tools.  When I need to move them, I rent a 26' box truck with a liftgate and fill the whole thing.  To be clear, most techs at the top of their field don't waste anywhere near that much money on tools.  I do a lot of specialized work that most people don't.    I have interviewed at a couple high end dealerships that require you to move into the existing toolbox because the whole shop has to look like a magazine cover, but I'd never take a job where the tools aren't mine.    Most techs destroy tools and equipment.  A shared tool is an abused tool, and I can't stand using damaged or filthy tools.  I'm much happier having my own tranny jack that's clean and works perfectly with no missing parts.  The rest of the guys fumble with the shop one that has seized parts, missing parts, and leaks oil all over itself.  For reasons I'll never understand, they have no problem with that.  I couldn't get a tech in my shop tell the manager it needs to be replaced even if I offered to pay them to do it.","human_ref_B":"Yes most of the time you bring your own tools. You also don't want to know how much those tool boxes actually cost. It can go beyond the price of a new car, but empty of course.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":47857.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"yfubtp","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Do mechanics in the US have to buy their own toolbox? I've seen some videos about mechanics quitting their job and taking their toolbox with them, is that really a thing that they have to pay for their own tools while working in a workshop?","c_root_id_A":"iu8glv2","c_root_id_B":"iu7jhs5","created_at_utc_A":1667042080,"created_at_utc_B":1667015440,"score_A":5,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Working as a tech in the US since 2006, I'm well over 100k in tools.  When I need to move them, I rent a 26' box truck with a liftgate and fill the whole thing.  To be clear, most techs at the top of their field don't waste anywhere near that much money on tools.  I do a lot of specialized work that most people don't.    I have interviewed at a couple high end dealerships that require you to move into the existing toolbox because the whole shop has to look like a magazine cover, but I'd never take a job where the tools aren't mine.    Most techs destroy tools and equipment.  A shared tool is an abused tool, and I can't stand using damaged or filthy tools.  I'm much happier having my own tranny jack that's clean and works perfectly with no missing parts.  The rest of the guys fumble with the shop one that has seized parts, missing parts, and leaks oil all over itself.  For reasons I'll never understand, they have no problem with that.  I couldn't get a tech in my shop tell the manager it needs to be replaced even if I offered to pay them to do it.","human_ref_B":"Not as a mechanic (except as a hobby\/necessity) but as a machinist, yes I had to by my own tools and the box to keep them in.  I had to register them with QA every year to make sure they held to company standards.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":26640.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"yfubtp","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Do mechanics in the US have to buy their own toolbox? I've seen some videos about mechanics quitting their job and taking their toolbox with them, is that really a thing that they have to pay for their own tools while working in a workshop?","c_root_id_A":"iu8b4us","c_root_id_B":"iu8glv2","created_at_utc_A":1667037634,"created_at_utc_B":1667042080,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"We buy our own tools\/boxes in Canada too. I\u2019m a 14th year HD diesel tech and I would say I\u2019ve invested about $45k so far.","human_ref_B":"Working as a tech in the US since 2006, I'm well over 100k in tools.  When I need to move them, I rent a 26' box truck with a liftgate and fill the whole thing.  To be clear, most techs at the top of their field don't waste anywhere near that much money on tools.  I do a lot of specialized work that most people don't.    I have interviewed at a couple high end dealerships that require you to move into the existing toolbox because the whole shop has to look like a magazine cover, but I'd never take a job where the tools aren't mine.    Most techs destroy tools and equipment.  A shared tool is an abused tool, and I can't stand using damaged or filthy tools.  I'm much happier having my own tranny jack that's clean and works perfectly with no missing parts.  The rest of the guys fumble with the shop one that has seized parts, missing parts, and leaks oil all over itself.  For reasons I'll never understand, they have no problem with that.  I couldn't get a tech in my shop tell the manager it needs to be replaced even if I offered to pay them to do it.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4446.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"yfubtp","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.97,"history":"Do mechanics in the US have to buy their own toolbox? I've seen some videos about mechanics quitting their job and taking their toolbox with them, is that really a thing that they have to pay for their own tools while working in a workshop?","c_root_id_A":"iu57apz","c_root_id_B":"iu63257","created_at_utc_A":1666976952,"created_at_utc_B":1666989897,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Only 8 point sockets","human_ref_B":"Yes almost always mechanics are required to pay for and provide their own tools.      Some states have laws in place about this for example California law says that if mechanics are required to provide their own tools they need to be paid at minimum $30hr (goes to $31 in a few months).  But most states it\u2019s just on the mechanic.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12945.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"mvtb05","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"What are first cars recommended for new drivers with zero driving history just after passing road test? Why? This is just a general question, I'm genuinely curious to see what car guys would recommend. Let first cars be new or used, there are too many youtubers in their new driver category showing off their luxury cars as their first car.  I thought this might be car-related, please delete it if it is not. Thanks guys","c_root_id_A":"gve39qi","c_root_id_B":"gve2wbb","created_at_utc_A":1619052259,"created_at_utc_B":1619052070,"score_A":17,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"A toyota corolla or a honda civic. Affordable and reliable, hondas have a little more peppy kick and turn better and toyotas are comfortable tanks. There is also mazda, i have one and it is a very good ride. Not sure about older mazdas as they seem to rust quickly here in the canadian rust belt so if you live in an area where rust Doesnt develop then id take a look at mazda. Honda and toyota is like a standard reliable car, mazda too but depends on weather conditions. If i were you i would buy a used car, when you learn you make mistakes so keep that in mind, also, insurance is cheaper and so are parts. Get a used car of an old lady that kept it in the garage in good condition or just get any used car and bring it in a garage for a full on inspection. Save some money while you learn how to drive so you can save up for a a more recent (but used) car or a brand new car.","human_ref_B":"There is no 1 car.  I can recommend a few based on a couple things.  You want a small car, because it's cheaper to make small things.  So when you fuck up.  The cost to fix it is less.  You want an old car, because they are cheap, so parts can be cheap.  Lastly, and most importantly is market share.  The cars sold, the more spare parts, the more parts manufacturers can prorate tooling and warehousing fees.  Now the car AND cost.  Cars cost a lot.  Even shitty ones.  Where I am it's $500.00\/month to drive.  That's insurance, fuel, maintenance and cost of vehicle over life span.  Think it's hard to save money now?  It's harder spending 500.00 more a month  Take a year or 2.  Save up 3-6k.  That car will have more things.  Be safer.  And cost less because it's not constantly failing.  Before you buy, have a mechanic inspect it.  They know what to look for.  It's well worth it.  In fact.  Look around at local shops.  Some will make cheap cars project vehicles in thier down time.    Getting a decent 500.00 car and replacing the suspension components.  Replacing the tires. Etc.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":189.0,"score_ratio":2.8333333333}
{"post_id":"mvtb05","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"What are first cars recommended for new drivers with zero driving history just after passing road test? Why? This is just a general question, I'm genuinely curious to see what car guys would recommend. Let first cars be new or used, there are too many youtubers in their new driver category showing off their luxury cars as their first car.  I thought this might be car-related, please delete it if it is not. Thanks guys","c_root_id_A":"gvegcch","c_root_id_B":"gvea2s4","created_at_utc_A":1619058993,"created_at_utc_B":1619055691,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Older 4 cylinder single cab small truck (like ford ranger) Hear me out: Cheap as hell. Parts are available everywhere because they are fleet trucks. Insurance reflects small cheap truck. Enough power to get out of its own way, but not enough to really get in trouble. Incredibly practical as either a commuter or a worker. Decent gas mileage. Small enough to easily drive, big enough to be seen and protect the driver. Super simple, easy to work on. Simplicity makes it easier to learn driving and mechanical skills.","human_ref_B":"Cheap, so when (not if) you wreck it it's not expensive to fix, and not much of a loss if totalled. Small so easy to park. Front wheel drive because it has the most predictable handling characteristics","labels":1,"seconds_difference":3302.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"o0iex3","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Can anyone identify this engine rattling sound? Skoda Octavia Mk3, 2016, 1,2L 110hp petrol. Manual Transmission https:\/\/youtu.be\/3hTzkB1YV3g  VOLUME WARNING: I recorded the sound by taping my cellphone to the engine bay, so the microphone is directly next to the engine and thus is a bit loud.  Please see a description of the video below  Car: Skoda Octavia Mk3 2016 1,2L 110hp petrol, manual transmission.  I've noticed a distinct rattling sound coming from the engine when at low RPM. When the car is in gear and not exerting itself by accelerating or going up a hill it emits a rattling sound.  Example: in the start of the video i accelerate to around 40km\/h and place the gear in 4th gear. I cruise at this speed for around 10 seconds and the car is driving at around 1200 RPM. The rattling sound is very distinct here. In the rest of the video I do a 3-point turn and keep driving in 2nd and 3rd gear for a while, where the rattling sound is also hearable when I shift gears.  Does anyone know what this rattling stems from? I've noticed other Skoda Octavias not having this sound at all - they all sound very quiet and refined, and do not emit this rattling sound.  The sound is VERY hearable when my windows are rolled down and when driving past a wall, for instance, where the sound bounces off of the wall.  Thanks a lot in advance!","c_root_id_A":"h1vfjfb","c_root_id_B":"h1vtv5k","created_at_utc_A":1623779337,"created_at_utc_B":1623785511,"score_A":3,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I had a similar sound and later realized the car was burning oil and I was driving around two days without the bare minimum level of oil needed. Ended up hurting my engine lifters.","human_ref_B":"The TSI engines have a history of failing piston rings, which can lead to them burning oil and, eventually, failing altogether.  I'd have it checked by a pro sooner rather than later.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6174.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"570dps","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"(2010 Ford F-150) This is kind of urgent, how the heck do I get this off? Need to remove this plastic cover on the rear power sliding glass window. http:\/\/i.imgur.com\/48J4k03.jpg Anybody have any experience with this?","c_root_id_A":"d8oiatr","c_root_id_B":"d8ocavi","created_at_utc_A":1476256764,"created_at_utc_B":1476243993,"score_A":4,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"The glass is bolted in, there *is* a glue but it's just a sealant to keep air in\/out, it's not structural. I am like 80% sure what we're looking at in the pic is a cosmetic cover over where the bolts are. **However** you're never gonna get that glass out until you take out the seats and all the interior panels on the rear of the cab. Prepare yourself, it's going to suck. Now tell the curious folks playing from home why you need to remove it?","human_ref_B":"Why is this urgent?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12771.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"d01hdu","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"How does a car battery ''recharge itself''? Hello,  To be a little more specific, let's say i have the car off, only the radio is on aux and charging my phone for about 4\/5 hours. I remember as a kid that after a car had a jump start, people would drive the car to ''recharge the battery''.  Now my question is, does that actually work. If not, can you explain it in a simplified manner? And i guess how long would the drive need to be or how long\/what it would take to be ''fully'' charged again.  Thank you for your time.","c_root_id_A":"ez731bv","c_root_id_B":"ez4ybk3","created_at_utc_A":1567718270,"created_at_utc_B":1567693963,"score_A":4,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"This is a wonderful thread :)","human_ref_B":"The alternator, via a belt driven pulley, generates an AC current that powers the car and tops up the battery. It essentially converts rotational energy from the crank shaft into electricity. How long it talkes to charge up the battery depends on a lot of different things, but with a healthy battery, usually 15-20 minutes of driving around is fine.   The main purpose of the battery is to provide the energy needed to start the engine, running accessories off of it isn't ideal. IF it's a habit that you have you may want to consider keeping a power bank in your car. You can even get ones that charge off of the car's AC adapter\/lighter socket. The one I have can even jump start a car in a pinch.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":24307.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"iq579e","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.83,"history":"Supercharger Daily Driving?  I\u2019ve wanted to install a supercharger in my car for a long time. I don\u2019t want to make a race car, my goal is a fun car, I\u2019ve currently got a full NA build and I got my car from 124 whp to 150whp. I know it\u2019s not much, but this is my daily driver. I\u2019d like to continue driving this car daily, even with a supercharger, but I\u2019ve been seriously warned about daily driving a heavily modified car. I own a Saturn Sky 2.4L and I\u2019ve been pricing the parts and making blueprints for a supercharger build. I\u2019m currently wanting to get an Eaton m62 and I believe I\u2019ve found a way to fit it within the firewall. I really think I\u2019d be happy with 180 whp. I also hope to work on this project and actually have it installed by the end of next year. I\u2019m taking my time to not only learn more but to save up for the right quality pieces.  Knowing what I just wrote, here\u2019s where I really need advice. Currently, because of COVID, my job won\u2019t require me to go to work (even after covid) as much, so I don\u2019t need to drive as much. I still want my car to be reliable enough to get me from point A to point B. I know mods will not make this a Toyota Corolla, but is it realistic to do small gains on a supercharger and still expect your car to be daily usable? Or should I really get a 2nd car as a daily before doing this? I more am not knowing if I should get a 2nd car before modifying my Saturn further or if this supercharger at a lower whp increase would be fine. As, I\u2019d prefer to drive my stupid car daily because my inner child would scream every time. Lastly, when I say I want my car to be, \u201creliable enough\u201d, I mean that I don\u2019t care if it is not drivable for like a month every year. Thank you for any advice given and taking the time to read this!","c_root_id_A":"g4pjjuh","c_root_id_B":"g4pmyxn","created_at_utc_A":1599757475,"created_at_utc_B":1599758692,"score_A":2,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"Great points by those here before me, but also consider resale. A base Sky with a s\/c and a ton of mods still won't be worth as much when you're ready to sell as a stock Redline model. You'll be throwing away thousands and thousands of dollars.   Part it out and buy the proper model.","human_ref_B":"I've seen a Subaru BRZ with \\~300hp get absolutely spanked for 15000 net(!) track miles and still run beautifully.  If you do it right and you drive it right (warm up, cool down) you'll be fine. It is however very likely that getting the faster model will be both cheapter AND getting you better resale value. So, is it possible? Yes. Does it make sense? Not if what you want is simply a quicker car. Some people want their stuff to be bespoke, which is just as fine. It does cost more money though.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1217.0,"score_ratio":4.5}
{"post_id":"iq579e","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.83,"history":"Supercharger Daily Driving?  I\u2019ve wanted to install a supercharger in my car for a long time. I don\u2019t want to make a race car, my goal is a fun car, I\u2019ve currently got a full NA build and I got my car from 124 whp to 150whp. I know it\u2019s not much, but this is my daily driver. I\u2019d like to continue driving this car daily, even with a supercharger, but I\u2019ve been seriously warned about daily driving a heavily modified car. I own a Saturn Sky 2.4L and I\u2019ve been pricing the parts and making blueprints for a supercharger build. I\u2019m currently wanting to get an Eaton m62 and I believe I\u2019ve found a way to fit it within the firewall. I really think I\u2019d be happy with 180 whp. I also hope to work on this project and actually have it installed by the end of next year. I\u2019m taking my time to not only learn more but to save up for the right quality pieces.  Knowing what I just wrote, here\u2019s where I really need advice. Currently, because of COVID, my job won\u2019t require me to go to work (even after covid) as much, so I don\u2019t need to drive as much. I still want my car to be reliable enough to get me from point A to point B. I know mods will not make this a Toyota Corolla, but is it realistic to do small gains on a supercharger and still expect your car to be daily usable? Or should I really get a 2nd car as a daily before doing this? I more am not knowing if I should get a 2nd car before modifying my Saturn further or if this supercharger at a lower whp increase would be fine. As, I\u2019d prefer to drive my stupid car daily because my inner child would scream every time. Lastly, when I say I want my car to be, \u201creliable enough\u201d, I mean that I don\u2019t care if it is not drivable for like a month every year. Thank you for any advice given and taking the time to read this!","c_root_id_A":"g4psw9n","c_root_id_B":"g4pjjuh","created_at_utc_A":1599760433,"created_at_utc_B":1599757475,"score_A":9,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"If you want to have a reliable modded car, what you really want to do is research, and **never** cheap on parts. Good quality **parts** and good quality **work**.  If a manufacturer can do a supercharged car, so can you. It requires the proper amount of research, proper work and enough money.  I drive a slightly modded 2002 Z06. For example, I have AP Racing brakes. These brakes are basically the cream of the top. I also made sure to install them properly and pipe them properly. I've dailyed this car since then and had no issues.  A supercharger is pushing the limit of the car. It can be done, if you upgrade the weak points of the engine, transmission, axle shafts, clutch and other necessary parts, but you have to make sure not to skip anything.  It's usually easier and cheaper to buy the car you want instead of modding the current one, unless the car you want doesn't exist.","human_ref_B":"Great points by those here before me, but also consider resale. A base Sky with a s\/c and a ton of mods still won't be worth as much when you're ready to sell as a stock Redline model. You'll be throwing away thousands and thousands of dollars.   Part it out and buy the proper model.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2958.0,"score_ratio":4.5}
{"post_id":"iq579e","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.83,"history":"Supercharger Daily Driving?  I\u2019ve wanted to install a supercharger in my car for a long time. I don\u2019t want to make a race car, my goal is a fun car, I\u2019ve currently got a full NA build and I got my car from 124 whp to 150whp. I know it\u2019s not much, but this is my daily driver. I\u2019d like to continue driving this car daily, even with a supercharger, but I\u2019ve been seriously warned about daily driving a heavily modified car. I own a Saturn Sky 2.4L and I\u2019ve been pricing the parts and making blueprints for a supercharger build. I\u2019m currently wanting to get an Eaton m62 and I believe I\u2019ve found a way to fit it within the firewall. I really think I\u2019d be happy with 180 whp. I also hope to work on this project and actually have it installed by the end of next year. I\u2019m taking my time to not only learn more but to save up for the right quality pieces.  Knowing what I just wrote, here\u2019s where I really need advice. Currently, because of COVID, my job won\u2019t require me to go to work (even after covid) as much, so I don\u2019t need to drive as much. I still want my car to be reliable enough to get me from point A to point B. I know mods will not make this a Toyota Corolla, but is it realistic to do small gains on a supercharger and still expect your car to be daily usable? Or should I really get a 2nd car as a daily before doing this? I more am not knowing if I should get a 2nd car before modifying my Saturn further or if this supercharger at a lower whp increase would be fine. As, I\u2019d prefer to drive my stupid car daily because my inner child would scream every time. Lastly, when I say I want my car to be, \u201creliable enough\u201d, I mean that I don\u2019t care if it is not drivable for like a month every year. Thank you for any advice given and taking the time to read this!","c_root_id_A":"g4pjjuh","c_root_id_B":"g4pxre7","created_at_utc_A":1599757475,"created_at_utc_B":1599761683,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Great points by those here before me, but also consider resale. A base Sky with a s\/c and a ton of mods still won't be worth as much when you're ready to sell as a stock Redline model. You'll be throwing away thousands and thousands of dollars.   Part it out and buy the proper model.","human_ref_B":"I supercharged my daily driver years ago and don't regret it a bit, but I did plan for the worst and I did have issues that could have been bad\/expensive if I hadn't.   I had a garage, tools, and my wife had a reliable car.  I didn't have a risk of getting fired if I missed work one day because it didn't start.   I could afford to write everything off and go buy something reliable if I really screwed up.  I had good experience working on the car and I used a commercially available kit.  I stayed in touch with a number of people that used the same kit and was familiar with the common issues and troubleshooting.   I installed everything myself and had a plan to return things to stock if needed.  I had my share of issues from simple stuff like the supercharger belt shredding and taking other belts out with it to difficult issues that forced me to take everything off and go back to stock in order to troubleshoot.   Good luck!","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4208.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"4wx39b","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"What are the practical effects of common suspension mods? Looking for an enthusiast's\/mechanic's\/car guy's summary of why one would want to do some of these oft talked about mods, in no particular order:  * Sway\/anti-roll bars   * Endlinks * Control arms * Springs * Shocks * Coilovers (as opposed to springs and shocks) * Lowering * And any others I might've missed","c_root_id_A":"d6am83b","c_root_id_B":"d6anjum","created_at_utc_A":1470763162,"created_at_utc_B":1470764791,"score_A":2,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Most of these mods improve handling in some way. Basically if you set them up right you can go around a corner faster before the car reaches its limit. These mods can can also change the handling of the car at the limit of grip. While a car may have under steered (front tires lose grip first and the car essentially plows into the corner), suspension mods could allow the car to oversteer (back tires lose grip first and the back end of the car rotates) instead.","human_ref_B":"Better start reading: http:\/\/www.carbibles.com\/suspension_bible.html","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1629.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"4wx39b","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"What are the practical effects of common suspension mods? Looking for an enthusiast's\/mechanic's\/car guy's summary of why one would want to do some of these oft talked about mods, in no particular order:  * Sway\/anti-roll bars   * Endlinks * Control arms * Springs * Shocks * Coilovers (as opposed to springs and shocks) * Lowering * And any others I might've missed","c_root_id_A":"d6ayvzo","c_root_id_B":"d6am83b","created_at_utc_A":1470778905,"created_at_utc_B":1470763162,"score_A":6,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Answering really quick here: By no means exhaustive on what these are.   **Sway\/anti-roll bars**  Reduce side to side or lateral sway. Increasing tension or Rollbar size on the rear will make your car more biased to oversteer. ON the front more biased to understeer.   **Endlinks**  Stiffness, ride quality, and a potential change in road noise. All can be impacted positively or negatively depending on parts.   **Control arms**  Not usually one of the parts you replace with an improved aftermarket- if you do find one you can look at improving unsprung weight which has benefits throughout the cars handling\/acceleration.   **Springs**  Adjust your height and your compression rates. Can make your car lower, could make it stiffer, could make em more or less bouncy.   **Shocks**  Easiest and best bang for the buck suspension upgrade. Shocks control the \"bounce\" that will be introduced by the springs or the road. Better shocks will keep your car planted to the ground around turns and even help with acceleration and breaking.  **Coilovers (as opposed to springs and shocks)**  Replaces your shocks and springs and has full adjustability. Most people who get these will put them on the car and never adjust them again (making them worse than spring and shock upgrades).   **Lowering**  Center of gravity is lower which reduces roll. Too low and you lose spring\/suspension travel and introduce \"bump steer\". You will need to get camber\/caster adjustments after lowering most times. Coilovers, springs or factory adjustments (corvettes for instance) can reduce ride height.   **And any others I might've missed**  Wheels and Tires. If you are interested in handling and performance light weight wheels and good tires are the best upgrade you can do.","human_ref_B":"Most of these mods improve handling in some way. Basically if you set them up right you can go around a corner faster before the car reaches its limit. These mods can can also change the handling of the car at the limit of grip. While a car may have under steered (front tires lose grip first and the car essentially plows into the corner), suspension mods could allow the car to oversteer (back tires lose grip first and the back end of the car rotates) instead.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":15743.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"4wx39b","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"What are the practical effects of common suspension mods? Looking for an enthusiast's\/mechanic's\/car guy's summary of why one would want to do some of these oft talked about mods, in no particular order:  * Sway\/anti-roll bars   * Endlinks * Control arms * Springs * Shocks * Coilovers (as opposed to springs and shocks) * Lowering * And any others I might've missed","c_root_id_A":"d6aoobf","c_root_id_B":"d6ayvzo","created_at_utc_A":1470766152,"created_at_utc_B":1470778905,"score_A":2,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"To change the way the car handles, whether better or worse (worse for typical drag mods)  All of the mods you listed do that.","human_ref_B":"Answering really quick here: By no means exhaustive on what these are.   **Sway\/anti-roll bars**  Reduce side to side or lateral sway. Increasing tension or Rollbar size on the rear will make your car more biased to oversteer. ON the front more biased to understeer.   **Endlinks**  Stiffness, ride quality, and a potential change in road noise. All can be impacted positively or negatively depending on parts.   **Control arms**  Not usually one of the parts you replace with an improved aftermarket- if you do find one you can look at improving unsprung weight which has benefits throughout the cars handling\/acceleration.   **Springs**  Adjust your height and your compression rates. Can make your car lower, could make it stiffer, could make em more or less bouncy.   **Shocks**  Easiest and best bang for the buck suspension upgrade. Shocks control the \"bounce\" that will be introduced by the springs or the road. Better shocks will keep your car planted to the ground around turns and even help with acceleration and breaking.  **Coilovers (as opposed to springs and shocks)**  Replaces your shocks and springs and has full adjustability. Most people who get these will put them on the car and never adjust them again (making them worse than spring and shock upgrades).   **Lowering**  Center of gravity is lower which reduces roll. Too low and you lose spring\/suspension travel and introduce \"bump steer\". You will need to get camber\/caster adjustments after lowering most times. Coilovers, springs or factory adjustments (corvettes for instance) can reduce ride height.   **And any others I might've missed**  Wheels and Tires. If you are interested in handling and performance light weight wheels and good tires are the best upgrade you can do.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":12753.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"4wx39b","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"What are the practical effects of common suspension mods? Looking for an enthusiast's\/mechanic's\/car guy's summary of why one would want to do some of these oft talked about mods, in no particular order:  * Sway\/anti-roll bars   * Endlinks * Control arms * Springs * Shocks * Coilovers (as opposed to springs and shocks) * Lowering * And any others I might've missed","c_root_id_A":"d6apvei","c_root_id_B":"d6ayvzo","created_at_utc_A":1470767613,"created_at_utc_B":1470778905,"score_A":2,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Put very simply, in general, they stiffen up the car, reduce body roll, lower the center of gravity and allow the proper alignment specifications to be retained after modifying other parts of the suspension or lowering the car.","human_ref_B":"Answering really quick here: By no means exhaustive on what these are.   **Sway\/anti-roll bars**  Reduce side to side or lateral sway. Increasing tension or Rollbar size on the rear will make your car more biased to oversteer. ON the front more biased to understeer.   **Endlinks**  Stiffness, ride quality, and a potential change in road noise. All can be impacted positively or negatively depending on parts.   **Control arms**  Not usually one of the parts you replace with an improved aftermarket- if you do find one you can look at improving unsprung weight which has benefits throughout the cars handling\/acceleration.   **Springs**  Adjust your height and your compression rates. Can make your car lower, could make it stiffer, could make em more or less bouncy.   **Shocks**  Easiest and best bang for the buck suspension upgrade. Shocks control the \"bounce\" that will be introduced by the springs or the road. Better shocks will keep your car planted to the ground around turns and even help with acceleration and breaking.  **Coilovers (as opposed to springs and shocks)**  Replaces your shocks and springs and has full adjustability. Most people who get these will put them on the car and never adjust them again (making them worse than spring and shock upgrades).   **Lowering**  Center of gravity is lower which reduces roll. Too low and you lose spring\/suspension travel and introduce \"bump steer\". You will need to get camber\/caster adjustments after lowering most times. Coilovers, springs or factory adjustments (corvettes for instance) can reduce ride height.   **And any others I might've missed**  Wheels and Tires. If you are interested in handling and performance light weight wheels and good tires are the best upgrade you can do.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11292.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"s30hgf","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.81,"history":"People who got an V12 after having an V8, How does it feel? Worth the spend?","c_root_id_A":"hsj4zc1","c_root_id_B":"hsj2d4r","created_at_utc_A":1642104622,"created_at_utc_B":1642103649,"score_A":20,"score_B":16,"human_ref_A":"I don\u2019t recall where I heard it, but someone said V12\u2019s come in 2 flavors. One is all out racing and the other is built for luxury. There seems to be nothing in between. I\u2019ve never been in one, but that\u2019s all I can contribute to this post.","human_ref_B":"No","labels":1,"seconds_difference":973.0,"score_ratio":1.25}
{"post_id":"s30hgf","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.81,"history":"People who got an V12 after having an V8, How does it feel? Worth the spend?","c_root_id_A":"hsjtemj","c_root_id_B":"hsjtrxa","created_at_utc_A":1642113855,"created_at_utc_B":1642114000,"score_A":3,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Try comparing the UZ vs GZ platforms of toyota, you might have an answer there, they have similar displacements and build quality.","human_ref_B":"I'm not a fan. I was a bmw tech for years and hated anything larger than a V8 and wasn't a fan of those. They run super smooth and have pretty nice power bands, but that is the extent of their pros imo.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":145.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"s30hgf","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.81,"history":"People who got an V12 after having an V8, How does it feel? Worth the spend?","c_root_id_A":"hsjvtx4","c_root_id_B":"hsk6y0v","created_at_utc_A":1642114794,"created_at_utc_B":1642119274,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"The Jaguar 5.3L V12 is smooth as butter as a V12, little bit rough as a V10 and sucks ass as a V8. And lets not talk about all the electrical fires.","human_ref_B":"If you have to ask if spending money on a car with a v12 is worth it over a car with a v8 - you don\u2019t have the money for either\u2026","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4480.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"ora1je","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"How much has my 16 year old 1.2 Fiat Panda actually degraded? I own a 2004 Fiat Panda 1.2 dynamic. 115K miles on the odometer. I love this car dearly, despite it getting 55mpg (5 more than advertised) I recently got a shock of how it\u2019s days are numbered despite it passing it\u2019s MOT last month.   Last week I rented a 2021 Skoda Fabia with a 0.9L engine. I couldn\u2019t believe how quick it was accelerating in comparison to my Fiat. I didn\u2019t feel like a potato on the motorway or feel like I had to smash the gas pedal to stay up with everyone else.   My question is, was my Fiat always this slow and that modern innovation has allowed us to go faster with less, or that over a decade and a half of use has meant the car has not as much power as it once was.   Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"h6h1jpc","c_root_id_B":"h6h10v9","created_at_utc_A":1627220678,"created_at_utc_B":1627220366,"score_A":10,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"The 2004 panda was always a low powered, economic, charming little car, rev happy and enthusiastic but with very little \"grunt\" at the low end. It might be time for a tuneup, but don't compare it to a turbo engine, compare to a 2007 fabia 1.2 HTP for instance, and you have a more fair comparison.    ...or slap a turbo kit on it and go redlight racing other ecoboxes :)","human_ref_B":"Is the 0.9 not a turbo engine?  Some is probably down to power loss (cars do lose power as they age) and technical limitations as you say.   Engines are continually developing more power from smaller displacement, and are constantly being refined.   For example: Mercedes with 450bhp out of a 2.0.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":312.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"j4wq66","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.84,"history":"Why do people go through the trouble of converting Automatic to Manual? And Vice Versa? Couldn\u2019t you buy the car in the original format, unless there was something in the car you desired, I completely understand but isn\u2019t it much more expensive to convert the said transmission than to buy the original transmission, and also expensive because it was automatic (meaning automatics are priced higher than a manual due to the easy usage). Please note I\u2019m not hating on anyone for changing their car the way they want, I\u2019m just not understanding why you would want to convert a transmission that\u2019s all.","c_root_id_A":"g7o3opf","c_root_id_B":"g7o3a9b","created_at_utc_A":1601813169,"created_at_utc_B":1601813003,"score_A":15,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"i've only ever seen it done to older cars and there it was always a matter of availability. some cars were sold as AT in much higher numbers, or exclusively, think the E46 M3 CSL. Also auto transmissions have come a long, long way in the past 20-30 years, most modern ones you can kind of live with but the older ones are just rubbish.  For some people (including myself), an automatic transmission is simply a dealbreaker for a driver's car and when they have their mind set on a certain type and they can't find it as a MT, then the effort may be worth it for them.","human_ref_B":"There are a couple of reasons for the trans swap. Sometimes this occurs because the vehicle was not offered in the current configuration with a manual transmission, other times it may be a better\/easier solution than finding the vehicle with a manual transmission.   For instance, I love C5 Audi Allroads. The engine choices were a 4.2l v8 or a 2.7TT v6. The v8 only came in automatic. The v6 was offered with a manual transmission, but they were relatively uncommon. Therefore, you will see people with the v8 swap the auto trans for manual because there was no option. You will also see the v6 with auto transmissions be swapped to manual ones, just because it is so hard to find a low mile, quality one from the factory. It is cheaper and easier to just swap the trans that wait for the right manual transmission car to become available. Does that make sense?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":166.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"g81s82","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.92,"history":"Can i drive with No radiator cap, no thermostat, and a little less than normal amount of Coolant and still get circulation? So i can get rid of extra air exhaust that comes from leaks in my head gasket.","c_root_id_A":"folou5s","c_root_id_B":"folpoas","created_at_utc_A":1587866997,"created_at_utc_B":1587867549,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Yeah no. Engine needs a rebuild from the heads up. And I'd check the crank bearings and piston walls too because oil and water don't mix and coolant isn't exactly compressible. Good chance there's a bent valve or a few other issues on top of that. Fix it or you're gonna make your engine leave the vehicle without any other parts.","human_ref_B":"No","labels":0,"seconds_difference":552.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"vki62r","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.83,"history":"How light could be a MX-5? How light could be a car like the MX-5 if it was made using the same kind of weight reduction techniques that supercar manufacturers use in their cars, without removing any kind of technology or comfort features?","c_root_id_A":"idpak4z","c_root_id_B":"idpf6qg","created_at_utc_A":1656174160,"created_at_utc_B":1656176185,"score_A":7,"score_B":12,"human_ref_A":"Well they weigh around 2400 built the way they are, if you swapped out all the panels for carbon fiber you lose around 60 pounds. Beyond that you would need to really redesign it to use other materials.","human_ref_B":"Heck with an unlimited budget you could make the whole thing out of carbon fiber. It would be tough to put an actual number to it but an M4 GT3 car is 2800lbs-ish and the curb weight and a regular M4 is 4000lbs-ish. Trade the cage for some ventilated seats, baby you got a stew going","labels":0,"seconds_difference":2025.0,"score_ratio":1.7142857143}
{"post_id":"pl7fkf","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.96,"history":"A group of friends and I saw an Aston Martin Cygnet, any idea on its rarity and value?  We are in Sardinia, Italy's second biggest island, and, as the title says, we saw an Aston Martin Cygnet just strolling about the city, we sadly weren't able to take a picture.   Now, after some research, i'm left wondering, as i have seen numerous articles saying that only 150 cars had been sold in 2 years before it ended production, about how rare it actually is, and if it's anymore valuable than the original 35k price tag.   On a sidenote, i have no idea if this is the right subreddit to ask, i hope it is","c_root_id_A":"hc8tdlo","c_root_id_B":"hca94im","created_at_utc_A":1631230219,"created_at_utc_B":1631257449,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"It's substantially more valuable than the original 35K price tag but it's still not worth as much as any other Aston lol. I saw one go at auction with under 1000 k on the odometer that sold for 80k in early 2020. The value has probably dropped a little bit but you could expect a low mileage example to go for 75% over MSRP if not more.","human_ref_B":"There are 8 for sale in the UK (on autotrader) right now. Cheapest at \u00a330k and most expensive at \u00a340k","labels":0,"seconds_difference":27230.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"o231tf","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Tips on negotiating\/denying service costs with a dealership? TL;DR: The dealership went off of *some* of the codes my vehicle was presenting to guess what the problem was \u2013 but surprise, surprise, that guess didn\u2019t fix it. Now, after performing some basic diagnostics (i.e., a fuel pressure test), they want me to pay for their oversight AND the new repair. Tips on taking this up the chain to the general manager?  More background: My husband is a mechanic, but I have a hybrid vehicle and he doesn\u2019t have an advanced enough scanner to accurately pinpoint the issue. So we took the car to a dealer. The service writer advised that, even though I had four codes, they can *usually* solve for two of them by replacing the intake. I questioned this vague \u201cmaybe\u201d and asked if we could do more troubleshooting prior to moving ahead with a $1K fix; he said he was \u201cconfident the intake would fix the issue.\u201d Well, it didn\u2019t, and now they\u2019re informing me it\u2019s the fuel pump. Hmm\u2026 wouldn\u2019t they have found weak fuel pressure if they conducted that diagnostic earlier? He\u2019s now saying he gave us the choice to do the repair or to do more diagnostics \u2013 and I think he realizes he caught himself in a lie. Logic dictates we would of course have gone with more diagnostics rather than make a $1K guess.  Needless to say, we\u2019ll replace the fuel pump ourselves rather than rack up an additional $900+, but both he and his supervisor aren\u2019t budging on the original \u201crepair\u201d of throwing parts at a problem before doing actual troubleshooting. Any tips on how I address this with the general manager?","c_root_id_A":"h248xtz","c_root_id_B":"h24vd1i","created_at_utc_A":1623953731,"created_at_utc_B":1623963237,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Well I\u2019m not much help, but it is good you have an understanding of the systems and can explain housing,  if you go in and they try to stay anything it won\u2019t be over your head","human_ref_B":"It would help to know what state you're in, as well as the kind of vehicle you drive.  When the dealership replaces the wrong thing and still can't figure out the problem, they need to eat the parts and labor. Not one or the other, but both. Don't budge on that. However, that being said, you should pay for the next repair, in this case the fuel pump.   Most states have a department of consumer affairs that govern over auto repair facilities. They would be the ones to contact in case they refuse to budge","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9506.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"o231tf","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.95,"history":"Tips on negotiating\/denying service costs with a dealership? TL;DR: The dealership went off of *some* of the codes my vehicle was presenting to guess what the problem was \u2013 but surprise, surprise, that guess didn\u2019t fix it. Now, after performing some basic diagnostics (i.e., a fuel pressure test), they want me to pay for their oversight AND the new repair. Tips on taking this up the chain to the general manager?  More background: My husband is a mechanic, but I have a hybrid vehicle and he doesn\u2019t have an advanced enough scanner to accurately pinpoint the issue. So we took the car to a dealer. The service writer advised that, even though I had four codes, they can *usually* solve for two of them by replacing the intake. I questioned this vague \u201cmaybe\u201d and asked if we could do more troubleshooting prior to moving ahead with a $1K fix; he said he was \u201cconfident the intake would fix the issue.\u201d Well, it didn\u2019t, and now they\u2019re informing me it\u2019s the fuel pump. Hmm\u2026 wouldn\u2019t they have found weak fuel pressure if they conducted that diagnostic earlier? He\u2019s now saying he gave us the choice to do the repair or to do more diagnostics \u2013 and I think he realizes he caught himself in a lie. Logic dictates we would of course have gone with more diagnostics rather than make a $1K guess.  Needless to say, we\u2019ll replace the fuel pump ourselves rather than rack up an additional $900+, but both he and his supervisor aren\u2019t budging on the original \u201crepair\u201d of throwing parts at a problem before doing actual troubleshooting. Any tips on how I address this with the general manager?","c_root_id_A":"h248xtz","c_root_id_B":"h260kdi","created_at_utc_A":1623953731,"created_at_utc_B":1623984243,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Well I\u2019m not much help, but it is good you have an understanding of the systems and can explain housing,  if you go in and they try to stay anything it won\u2019t be over your head","human_ref_B":"Dealership Mechanic here. Without knowing the details, like what symptom led you to taking your car to the dealership, I can give you my two cents.   Say you had a check engine light, that came along with a drivability concern. Me as the technician would first look at fault codes and see which of the computers registered a fault. Multiple computers can turn on the check engine light for different reasons. Once I have that basic information I can start a diagnosis. In your case: typically, a bad fuel pump will not set a fault code unless you have a high pressure fuel system. Now if I had to guess, the reason they thought intake and then fuel supply, I would bet money there was some kind of mixture formation fault. So if there\u2019s four fault codes it is possible you have more than one issue. A drivability concern that may or may not go noticed and a check engine light. This doesn\u2019t happen often, but it does happen. From the dealership\u2019s perspective, they thought they had a solution and made a recommendation. I would have addressed everything at once. If you had two faults related to mixture formation it is possible you have a leak in the intake. A good mechanic would have checked that before sending an estimate and verified that is indeed a problem. After that I would look at the other fault codes and see if they could be related or sympathetic to the other ones. If not, probably a separate problem.   It\u2019s just odd that they gave you the option for more diagnostic labor or a repair. Should have just been the one option for more diagnostic labor. Then I could say yes, this is bad and so is this. This happens at almost every dealership unfortunately but I can tell you that we would have eaten the intake job if it didn\u2019t fix any of your concerns, or at least offer a split if your car did in fact need it, plus a fuel pump. It sounds like you had a combination of bad advisor and bad technician. I would be persistent in fighting this because it\u2019s the right thing to do on their part. The whole reason people bring their cars to the dealership for service is they have confidence that since it is our product that we work on exclusively, we will fix the car without fail. They did not live up to that, plain and simple.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":30512.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"l6evu0","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Why can you turn on and off cruise control and not just use the buttons when you want to? Does it drain battery or affect miles per gallon or something when it's on? Always been curious about this.","c_root_id_A":"gl0bql7","c_root_id_B":"gl0dmr8","created_at_utc_A":1611786042,"created_at_utc_B":1611786800,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"3 out of the 5 cars I own have no on\/off for cruise, it's always ready. Much better setup. I assume the on\/off switch is for liability reasons.","human_ref_B":"The master switch always will shut off CC regardless of conditions. Helpful when the switch on the brake pedal fails, or when the accelerate button shorts.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":758.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"c2946l","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Should I buy a catalytic converter for a 2009 Subaru Impreza Hatchback from my car shop or from Autozone? And is this the correct part? My local Car-X auto shop told me this is the repair that I need, as my catalytic converter is \"running below threshold efficiency.\" The total if I go through them is $2000 about with parts and labor. They quoted me for the catalytic converter and two oxygen sensors they said they might need to replace. If they don't need to replace those I won't be charged.  My questions is, should I buy the part through them at around $800 and get their warranty on parts and labor, or should I buy the part from autozone for around $300 less? Autozone themselves have a warranty on the part, but it would require bringing the part back and the labor for a new part wouldn't be covered.  How easy is a catalytic converter to install properly for a reputable car shop? Is there a chance they might mess it up? How likely is it that the part will fail before the car (made in 2009)?  Is this the correct part for the \"front catalytic converter\"? https:\/\/www.autozone.com\/emission-control-and-exhaust\/catalytic-converter\/walker-catalytic-converter\/470592\\_35169\\_0\\_234588  Thanks for your help!","c_root_id_A":"erixjzu","c_root_id_B":"erizbzh","created_at_utc_A":1560909935,"created_at_utc_B":1560911299,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Rockauto.com","human_ref_B":"One thing to be aware of is that a lot of shops won't install parts you bring in yourself, sometimes for insurance reasons and sometimes for greed.  Before you consider this question any further, call the shop and make sure bringing in your own parts is an option in the first place.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1364.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"wc6yio","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Tips\/ recommendations on how to find a nice car under 15k for a first car? Im a junior in highschool. Corollas\/civics are nice, but i dont want to copy everyone in my family, so i wanted something different. just been looking at similar options My main concerns are price and safety, so the cheaper the better, but i want modern features like a backup camera and lane keeping assist. Ive been thinking about cars like the elantra or forte, but im a little concerned about the \"dual clutch transmission\" of a kia. What does that change from the usual automatic transmission? Im trying to learn about cars since it seems pretty interesting, but im afraid they dont explain everything unless i take a whole automotive course. And no, im not getting a tiny block car like a chevy spark lol","c_root_id_A":"iibf17b","c_root_id_B":"iiavgje","created_at_utc_A":1659223532,"created_at_utc_B":1659214479,"score_A":8,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Mazda3. All the reliability of Honda\/Toyota w\/o paying the Honda\/Toyota tax while also more fun.","human_ref_B":"What about a scion tc? I have one right now! It's been great to me.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":9053.0,"score_ratio":1.6}
{"post_id":"wc6yio","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Tips\/ recommendations on how to find a nice car under 15k for a first car? Im a junior in highschool. Corollas\/civics are nice, but i dont want to copy everyone in my family, so i wanted something different. just been looking at similar options My main concerns are price and safety, so the cheaper the better, but i want modern features like a backup camera and lane keeping assist. Ive been thinking about cars like the elantra or forte, but im a little concerned about the \"dual clutch transmission\" of a kia. What does that change from the usual automatic transmission? Im trying to learn about cars since it seems pretty interesting, but im afraid they dont explain everything unless i take a whole automotive course. And no, im not getting a tiny block car like a chevy spark lol","c_root_id_A":"iibbokw","c_root_id_B":"iibf17b","created_at_utc_A":1659221931,"created_at_utc_B":1659223532,"score_A":6,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I really liked the Mazda3 I had.","human_ref_B":"Mazda3. All the reliability of Honda\/Toyota w\/o paying the Honda\/Toyota tax while also more fun.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1601.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"wc6yio","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.91,"history":"Tips\/ recommendations on how to find a nice car under 15k for a first car? Im a junior in highschool. Corollas\/civics are nice, but i dont want to copy everyone in my family, so i wanted something different. just been looking at similar options My main concerns are price and safety, so the cheaper the better, but i want modern features like a backup camera and lane keeping assist. Ive been thinking about cars like the elantra or forte, but im a little concerned about the \"dual clutch transmission\" of a kia. What does that change from the usual automatic transmission? Im trying to learn about cars since it seems pretty interesting, but im afraid they dont explain everything unless i take a whole automotive course. And no, im not getting a tiny block car like a chevy spark lol","c_root_id_A":"iibbokw","c_root_id_B":"iiavgje","created_at_utc_A":1659221931,"created_at_utc_B":1659214479,"score_A":6,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"I really liked the Mazda3 I had.","human_ref_B":"What about a scion tc? I have one right now! It's been great to me.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7452.0,"score_ratio":1.2}
{"post_id":"wur1zb","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Hey guys is it a smart idea to buy a cabriolet in a winter mostly nation(netherland)? it doesn't really snow here.","c_root_id_A":"ilbdma6","c_root_id_B":"ilbkhfa","created_at_utc_A":1661173044,"created_at_utc_B":1661176183,"score_A":2,"score_B":10,"human_ref_A":"Why not? Just leave the top up when you need to.","human_ref_B":"I don\u2019t know that a convertible is ever a \u201csmart\u201d purchase. The top requires constant maintenance, the wind noise is louder than a hardtop, and you\u2019re less protected from the cold and heat. But it is so worth it to drop that top and enjoy open motoring.   One point though: it totally depends on how often the weather permits you to open the top\/how much of the weather you\u2019re willing to put up with. Where I live, it\u2019s the opposite issue that you have; it\u2019s always summer except for maybe January and February. There\u2019s about 3 months where the sun just bakes you way too much to have the top down. And the two months of wintry weather are a bit too chilling for me to keep it open. So I got to keep the top down for about 7 months out of the year which was definitely worth it for me. You\u2019ll need to make that determination for yourself though.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3139.0,"score_ratio":5.0}
{"post_id":"wur1zb","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Hey guys is it a smart idea to buy a cabriolet in a winter mostly nation(netherland)? it doesn't really snow here.","c_root_id_A":"ilbdma6","c_root_id_B":"ilbo99x","created_at_utc_A":1661173044,"created_at_utc_B":1661177781,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Why not? Just leave the top up when you need to.","human_ref_B":"That'll partly depend on your (and your passengers') view of what's too cold, how powerful the heaters are, and how much it rains.  I daily drove a convertible for about 2 years and was comfortable putting the roof down in just about anything above freezing, and was more limited by how stiff the roof would be in the cold rather than it being too cold. For me it was definitely worthwhile (in Northern England) and I got plenty of use with the roof down.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4737.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"moq8ad","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Is it possible to get transmission service on a 2013 Toyota RAV4? Odometer reads 160k and I worry the tranny needs cleaning","c_root_id_A":"gu5hnpr","c_root_id_B":"gu5sucg","created_at_utc_A":1618154083,"created_at_utc_B":1618159540,"score_A":4,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"If it were me, I\u2019d do a drain and fill with Toyota ATF. Either DIY or take it to a dealer to make sure the correct OEM fluid is used.","human_ref_B":"Anyone telling you not to flush it is just repeating old stories. If a flush breaks your trans, your trans was already broken. My BMW transmission has lifetime fluid and no service interval. I did a trans service the first month I owned it. If your normal dealer doesn't want to do it, find one that will. All fluids wear out eventually.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5457.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"moq8ad","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Is it possible to get transmission service on a 2013 Toyota RAV4? Odometer reads 160k and I worry the tranny needs cleaning","c_root_id_A":"gu56tt5","c_root_id_B":"gu5sucg","created_at_utc_A":1618145435,"created_at_utc_B":1618159540,"score_A":2,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Yea it's possible. It's possible in the case of ANY transmission. If it's the first service EVER for the vehicle, I wouldn't do it. If it's been serviced routinely it's whole life, go ahead. If you don't have any symptoms, don't worry about it. Simple as.","human_ref_B":"Anyone telling you not to flush it is just repeating old stories. If a flush breaks your trans, your trans was already broken. My BMW transmission has lifetime fluid and no service interval. I did a trans service the first month I owned it. If your normal dealer doesn't want to do it, find one that will. All fluids wear out eventually.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":14105.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"moq8ad","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Is it possible to get transmission service on a 2013 Toyota RAV4? Odometer reads 160k and I worry the tranny needs cleaning","c_root_id_A":"gu5cryp","c_root_id_B":"gu5sucg","created_at_utc_A":1618151524,"created_at_utc_B":1618159540,"score_A":2,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"I do the occasional drain and refill on my 05 Tundra, and I'm at 290,000 miles with no problems.   I certainly wouldn't do a flush (not even sure if it can be done on your car) but nothing wrong with fresh fluid","human_ref_B":"Anyone telling you not to flush it is just repeating old stories. If a flush breaks your trans, your trans was already broken. My BMW transmission has lifetime fluid and no service interval. I did a trans service the first month I owned it. If your normal dealer doesn't want to do it, find one that will. All fluids wear out eventually.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8016.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"moq8ad","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Is it possible to get transmission service on a 2013 Toyota RAV4? Odometer reads 160k and I worry the tranny needs cleaning","c_root_id_A":"gu56tt5","c_root_id_B":"gu5hnpr","created_at_utc_A":1618145435,"created_at_utc_B":1618154083,"score_A":2,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Yea it's possible. It's possible in the case of ANY transmission. If it's the first service EVER for the vehicle, I wouldn't do it. If it's been serviced routinely it's whole life, go ahead. If you don't have any symptoms, don't worry about it. Simple as.","human_ref_B":"If it were me, I\u2019d do a drain and fill with Toyota ATF. Either DIY or take it to a dealer to make sure the correct OEM fluid is used.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8648.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"moq8ad","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Is it possible to get transmission service on a 2013 Toyota RAV4? Odometer reads 160k and I worry the tranny needs cleaning","c_root_id_A":"gu5hnpr","c_root_id_B":"gu5cryp","created_at_utc_A":1618154083,"created_at_utc_B":1618151524,"score_A":4,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"If it were me, I\u2019d do a drain and fill with Toyota ATF. Either DIY or take it to a dealer to make sure the correct OEM fluid is used.","human_ref_B":"I do the occasional drain and refill on my 05 Tundra, and I'm at 290,000 miles with no problems.   I certainly wouldn't do a flush (not even sure if it can be done on your car) but nothing wrong with fresh fluid","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2559.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"wa4pk5","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.81,"history":"How to correct my steering that is off-center after a collision? Hi all, not long ago I had a small collision (shared responsibility) and ever since then my steering has been off-center. I'm from the UK and I have asked around at a couple of local garages and they have said that they can fix body damage but not the steering. I really know nothing about this, what sort of business should I approach who could hopefully fix both the steering issue and the body damage? Many thanks in advance.","c_root_id_A":"ihz1qsp","c_root_id_B":"ihzfenb","created_at_utc_A":1659003992,"created_at_utc_B":1659012241,"score_A":8,"score_B":15,"human_ref_A":"You need alignment most tire shops can do them.","human_ref_B":"If the collision changed your steering angle, you likely have damaged suspension components which need to be replaced. Any proper mechanic should be able to do this.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":8249.0,"score_ratio":1.875}
{"post_id":"tw6lks","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Is it ok to hang a small country flag in my car? I'm a teenager swede who recently bought an old ass off-road pathfinder 1997, My dad, my friend and me, we are cleaning and fixing the car and man, it is looking AWESOME, new bumper, new carrier on top and this militarysh green color, and many other things.  Since I like the U.S. and I have a couple American friends I wanted to hang a U.S. flag on the right side and a German flag on the left since I'm half german, but some friends told me that I may be looked as a Nazi or a dumbass for doing that, I don't really think it is a bad thing, what do you think? it won't be a giant flag and a long pole, won't cover my window and any of that.","c_root_id_A":"i3e3tvq","c_root_id_B":"i3djbka","created_at_utc_A":1649100504,"created_at_utc_B":1649092643,"score_A":8,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"As political as I may be personally, I never put any decals on a vehicle that might affiliate me in any direction..     If I park someone and someone disagrees with something and opts to vandalize my shit, or i get pulled over by a cop who has differing opinions... i don't need the any predisposition that comes with that shit in exchange for show of my support for burnie.","human_ref_B":"If I saw a German and American flag together on someone\u2019s car I would also assume nazi lol you should probably listen to your friends. Just put one, not both","labels":1,"seconds_difference":7861.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"tw6lks","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Is it ok to hang a small country flag in my car? I'm a teenager swede who recently bought an old ass off-road pathfinder 1997, My dad, my friend and me, we are cleaning and fixing the car and man, it is looking AWESOME, new bumper, new carrier on top and this militarysh green color, and many other things.  Since I like the U.S. and I have a couple American friends I wanted to hang a U.S. flag on the right side and a German flag on the left since I'm half german, but some friends told me that I may be looked as a Nazi or a dumbass for doing that, I don't really think it is a bad thing, what do you think? it won't be a giant flag and a long pole, won't cover my window and any of that.","c_root_id_A":"i3e3tvq","c_root_id_B":"i3dyba8","created_at_utc_A":1649100504,"created_at_utc_B":1649098383,"score_A":8,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"As political as I may be personally, I never put any decals on a vehicle that might affiliate me in any direction..     If I park someone and someone disagrees with something and opts to vandalize my shit, or i get pulled over by a cop who has differing opinions... i don't need the any predisposition that comes with that shit in exchange for show of my support for burnie.","human_ref_B":"so many weird responses in this thread. Which state are you living in? Maybe that will dictate the most appropriate answer.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2121.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"tw6lks","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.85,"history":"Is it ok to hang a small country flag in my car? I'm a teenager swede who recently bought an old ass off-road pathfinder 1997, My dad, my friend and me, we are cleaning and fixing the car and man, it is looking AWESOME, new bumper, new carrier on top and this militarysh green color, and many other things.  Since I like the U.S. and I have a couple American friends I wanted to hang a U.S. flag on the right side and a German flag on the left since I'm half german, but some friends told me that I may be looked as a Nazi or a dumbass for doing that, I don't really think it is a bad thing, what do you think? it won't be a giant flag and a long pole, won't cover my window and any of that.","c_root_id_A":"i3djbka","c_root_id_B":"i3dyba8","created_at_utc_A":1649092643,"created_at_utc_B":1649098383,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"If I saw a German and American flag together on someone\u2019s car I would also assume nazi lol you should probably listen to your friends. Just put one, not both","human_ref_B":"so many weird responses in this thread. Which state are you living in? Maybe that will dictate the most appropriate answer.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":5740.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"ouf1zl","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Can someone give me some advice about buying a car please? I found a 2012 Subaru outback at a dealership with 199k miles on it for 5800 or 6700 with a 2 year warranty. Everything on the car works and it's very clean. I have no idea if that's a good deal and if that's too many miles for the price. I barely have that amount to spend and need a good reliable car for me and my girls. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Also, sorry if I did this post wrong, I don't know how to reddit.","c_root_id_A":"h71z5yb","c_root_id_B":"h72it2r","created_at_utc_A":1627626694,"created_at_utc_B":1627643315,"score_A":6,"score_B":11,"human_ref_A":"199k miles = 320000 kms (I\u2019m from a country that uses metric) that\u2019s a lot of mileage on that car. Maybe compare prices on car sales websites to see if you are getting a good deal because normally dealerships are a lot more expensive. You\u2019ll probably get a looked after car with lower miles not far off that price the dealership is selling it for. Hope that helped.","human_ref_B":"I\u2019d pass on that. It\u2019ll go to shit the moment that two year warranty is up. Subarus aren\u2019t exactly renowned for being reliable.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":16621.0,"score_ratio":1.8333333333}
{"post_id":"ouf1zl","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Can someone give me some advice about buying a car please? I found a 2012 Subaru outback at a dealership with 199k miles on it for 5800 or 6700 with a 2 year warranty. Everything on the car works and it's very clean. I have no idea if that's a good deal and if that's too many miles for the price. I barely have that amount to spend and need a good reliable car for me and my girls. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Also, sorry if I did this post wrong, I don't know how to reddit.","c_root_id_A":"h72it2r","c_root_id_B":"h72fnn6","created_at_utc_A":1627643315,"created_at_utc_B":1627640828,"score_A":11,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I\u2019d pass on that. It\u2019ll go to shit the moment that two year warranty is up. Subarus aren\u2019t exactly renowned for being reliable.","human_ref_B":"Seems like a fair price considering the warranty available.  What does that actually include? If it's drivetrain I'd jump on that.  For reference, I spent 4.7k on a 2004 Honda Accord with 125k. But your vehicle is bigger, newer and has power windows and locks \ud83d\ude02. This was in a high cost of living area (Washington DC area).","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2487.0,"score_ratio":5.5}
{"post_id":"ouf1zl","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Can someone give me some advice about buying a car please? I found a 2012 Subaru outback at a dealership with 199k miles on it for 5800 or 6700 with a 2 year warranty. Everything on the car works and it's very clean. I have no idea if that's a good deal and if that's too many miles for the price. I barely have that amount to spend and need a good reliable car for me and my girls. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Also, sorry if I did this post wrong, I don't know how to reddit.","c_root_id_A":"h72kh2l","c_root_id_B":"h71z5yb","created_at_utc_A":1627644502,"created_at_utc_B":1627626694,"score_A":7,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Read the fine print on the warranty.  They sometimes exclude items or have extensive restrictions.  Subaru's from that era don't have the greatest of reputation, but aren't too bad.  Look at Honda, Toyota, Kia, or Mazda for more reliability.  You should also be able to find a car with much less miles for your budget.","human_ref_B":"199k miles = 320000 kms (I\u2019m from a country that uses metric) that\u2019s a lot of mileage on that car. Maybe compare prices on car sales websites to see if you are getting a good deal because normally dealerships are a lot more expensive. You\u2019ll probably get a looked after car with lower miles not far off that price the dealership is selling it for. Hope that helped.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":17808.0,"score_ratio":1.1666666667}
{"post_id":"ouf1zl","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Can someone give me some advice about buying a car please? I found a 2012 Subaru outback at a dealership with 199k miles on it for 5800 or 6700 with a 2 year warranty. Everything on the car works and it's very clean. I have no idea if that's a good deal and if that's too many miles for the price. I barely have that amount to spend and need a good reliable car for me and my girls. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Also, sorry if I did this post wrong, I don't know how to reddit.","c_root_id_A":"h72k0yq","c_root_id_B":"h72kh2l","created_at_utc_A":1627644189,"created_at_utc_B":1627644502,"score_A":5,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"I have that generation Outback and I love the car but the transmission has a lot of problems - I would pass unless it\u2019s a manual transmission or the trim with the 3.6L engine (they don\u2019t have the same transmission as the base model). It also eats oil, which is a more manageable problem but still annoying. I would go with a different vehicle.","human_ref_B":"Read the fine print on the warranty.  They sometimes exclude items or have extensive restrictions.  Subaru's from that era don't have the greatest of reputation, but aren't too bad.  Look at Honda, Toyota, Kia, or Mazda for more reliability.  You should also be able to find a car with much less miles for your budget.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":313.0,"score_ratio":1.4}
{"post_id":"ouf1zl","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Can someone give me some advice about buying a car please? I found a 2012 Subaru outback at a dealership with 199k miles on it for 5800 or 6700 with a 2 year warranty. Everything on the car works and it's very clean. I have no idea if that's a good deal and if that's too many miles for the price. I barely have that amount to spend and need a good reliable car for me and my girls. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Also, sorry if I did this post wrong, I don't know how to reddit.","c_root_id_A":"h72fnn6","c_root_id_B":"h72kh2l","created_at_utc_A":1627640828,"created_at_utc_B":1627644502,"score_A":2,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Seems like a fair price considering the warranty available.  What does that actually include? If it's drivetrain I'd jump on that.  For reference, I spent 4.7k on a 2004 Honda Accord with 125k. But your vehicle is bigger, newer and has power windows and locks \ud83d\ude02. This was in a high cost of living area (Washington DC area).","human_ref_B":"Read the fine print on the warranty.  They sometimes exclude items or have extensive restrictions.  Subaru's from that era don't have the greatest of reputation, but aren't too bad.  Look at Honda, Toyota, Kia, or Mazda for more reliability.  You should also be able to find a car with much less miles for your budget.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3674.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"ouf1zl","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Can someone give me some advice about buying a car please? I found a 2012 Subaru outback at a dealership with 199k miles on it for 5800 or 6700 with a 2 year warranty. Everything on the car works and it's very clean. I have no idea if that's a good deal and if that's too many miles for the price. I barely have that amount to spend and need a good reliable car for me and my girls. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Also, sorry if I did this post wrong, I don't know how to reddit.","c_root_id_A":"h72fnn6","c_root_id_B":"h72k0yq","created_at_utc_A":1627640828,"created_at_utc_B":1627644189,"score_A":2,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"Seems like a fair price considering the warranty available.  What does that actually include? If it's drivetrain I'd jump on that.  For reference, I spent 4.7k on a 2004 Honda Accord with 125k. But your vehicle is bigger, newer and has power windows and locks \ud83d\ude02. This was in a high cost of living area (Washington DC area).","human_ref_B":"I have that generation Outback and I love the car but the transmission has a lot of problems - I would pass unless it\u2019s a manual transmission or the trim with the 3.6L engine (they don\u2019t have the same transmission as the base model). It also eats oil, which is a more manageable problem but still annoying. I would go with a different vehicle.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3361.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"ouf1zl","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Can someone give me some advice about buying a car please? I found a 2012 Subaru outback at a dealership with 199k miles on it for 5800 or 6700 with a 2 year warranty. Everything on the car works and it's very clean. I have no idea if that's a good deal and if that's too many miles for the price. I barely have that amount to spend and need a good reliable car for me and my girls. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Also, sorry if I did this post wrong, I don't know how to reddit.","c_root_id_A":"h72pju6","c_root_id_B":"h72fnn6","created_at_utc_A":1627647787,"created_at_utc_B":1627640828,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I would spend my money on a more reliable car with less miles.","human_ref_B":"Seems like a fair price considering the warranty available.  What does that actually include? If it's drivetrain I'd jump on that.  For reference, I spent 4.7k on a 2004 Honda Accord with 125k. But your vehicle is bigger, newer and has power windows and locks \ud83d\ude02. This was in a high cost of living area (Washington DC area).","labels":1,"seconds_difference":6959.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"ouf1zl","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Can someone give me some advice about buying a car please? I found a 2012 Subaru outback at a dealership with 199k miles on it for 5800 or 6700 with a 2 year warranty. Everything on the car works and it's very clean. I have no idea if that's a good deal and if that's too many miles for the price. I barely have that amount to spend and need a good reliable car for me and my girls. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Also, sorry if I did this post wrong, I don't know how to reddit.","c_root_id_A":"h72s6mt","c_root_id_B":"h72fnn6","created_at_utc_A":1627649284,"created_at_utc_B":1627640828,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"I wouldn\u2019t buy a Subaru with more than 150k miles. I would find a Toyota Corolla or Camry. More reliable and cheaper to fix.","human_ref_B":"Seems like a fair price considering the warranty available.  What does that actually include? If it's drivetrain I'd jump on that.  For reference, I spent 4.7k on a 2004 Honda Accord with 125k. But your vehicle is bigger, newer and has power windows and locks \ud83d\ude02. This was in a high cost of living area (Washington DC area).","labels":1,"seconds_difference":8456.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"ouf1zl","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Can someone give me some advice about buying a car please? I found a 2012 Subaru outback at a dealership with 199k miles on it for 5800 or 6700 with a 2 year warranty. Everything on the car works and it's very clean. I have no idea if that's a good deal and if that's too many miles for the price. I barely have that amount to spend and need a good reliable car for me and my girls. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Also, sorry if I did this post wrong, I don't know how to reddit.","c_root_id_A":"h72fnn6","c_root_id_B":"h738w35","created_at_utc_A":1627640828,"created_at_utc_B":1627657308,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Seems like a fair price considering the warranty available.  What does that actually include? If it's drivetrain I'd jump on that.  For reference, I spent 4.7k on a 2004 Honda Accord with 125k. But your vehicle is bigger, newer and has power windows and locks \ud83d\ude02. This was in a high cost of living area (Washington DC area).","human_ref_B":"Never buy any used car without first spending the ~$100 it'll probably cost to have an independent mechanic perform a Buyer's Inspection \/ Pre-Purchase Inspection. Especially a high mileage used car.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":16480.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"ouf1zl","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Can someone give me some advice about buying a car please? I found a 2012 Subaru outback at a dealership with 199k miles on it for 5800 or 6700 with a 2 year warranty. Everything on the car works and it's very clean. I have no idea if that's a good deal and if that's too many miles for the price. I barely have that amount to spend and need a good reliable car for me and my girls. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Also, sorry if I did this post wrong, I don't know how to reddit.","c_root_id_A":"h72fnn6","c_root_id_B":"h73d8bv","created_at_utc_A":1627640828,"created_at_utc_B":1627659207,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Seems like a fair price considering the warranty available.  What does that actually include? If it's drivetrain I'd jump on that.  For reference, I spent 4.7k on a 2004 Honda Accord with 125k. But your vehicle is bigger, newer and has power windows and locks \ud83d\ude02. This was in a high cost of living area (Washington DC area).","human_ref_B":"I would limit my search to Honda or Toyota. Find what suits you and don't be dazzled by specs. If you live in the rust belt area, focus on rust free examples. Rust repairs are expensive and even the normal repairs take longer due to rusty bolts etc.. If All Wheel Drive is important for you then limit your search to AWD models.  But if your winters are mild, don't.  You don't want to pay for specs you don't need.  Lower trim models have less to break and poverty spec cars are usually a bit cheaper. I would reserve 20% of your budget for unforeseen repairs and have a certified mechanic do a pre purchase inspection. Oh, and I would pass on a 200k Outback. I love Subaru (I own one now) and they are not as bad as some say but 200k is about 8 times around the earth (!!) so expensive repairs drive train, suspension etc.. could be in the future. And even if you have a warranty you probably don't want to deal with repairs, down time and all the BS exceptions and small print.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":18379.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"meefj2","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"How can I figure out gas mileage for a classic car with an aftermarket engine? The car in question is a '77 Buick Century 4dr sedan with a 350 v8. I haven't driven the car a lot yet, but I'm curious how much gas it will take. My cousin drives an '08 ram 1500 60 mipes a day and fills up every other day, would I expect about the same?","c_root_id_A":"gsgepot","c_root_id_B":"gsgs5b1","created_at_utc_A":1616857087,"created_at_utc_B":1616861351,"score_A":3,"score_B":5,"human_ref_A":"You don't drive a 30+ year old classic with a 350 V8 so you can worry about gas mileage - if you want gas mileage buy a cheap shitbox as a daily and keep the classic for weekends.","human_ref_B":"Your cousin is filling up way too often lol. I know full size trucks aren't efficient, but they also have huge gas tanks. I seriously doubt he **needs** gas every 120 miles.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4264.0,"score_ratio":1.6666666667}
{"post_id":"meefj2","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"How can I figure out gas mileage for a classic car with an aftermarket engine? The car in question is a '77 Buick Century 4dr sedan with a 350 v8. I haven't driven the car a lot yet, but I'm curious how much gas it will take. My cousin drives an '08 ram 1500 60 mipes a day and fills up every other day, would I expect about the same?","c_root_id_A":"gsgdmub","c_root_id_B":"gsgepot","created_at_utc_A":1616856509,"created_at_utc_B":1616857087,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Your car is about 1000lbs lighter than that RAM. It's also *slightly* more aerodynamic. But your cousin's Ram is also fuel injected, and equipped with an electronically controlled transmission. Both of those things make his truck significantly more efficient.   My guess is that you'll get 20mpg on the highway, and probably 10 in town.","human_ref_B":"You don't drive a 30+ year old classic with a 350 V8 so you can worry about gas mileage - if you want gas mileage buy a cheap shitbox as a daily and keep the classic for weekends.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":578.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"meefj2","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"How can I figure out gas mileage for a classic car with an aftermarket engine? The car in question is a '77 Buick Century 4dr sedan with a 350 v8. I haven't driven the car a lot yet, but I'm curious how much gas it will take. My cousin drives an '08 ram 1500 60 mipes a day and fills up every other day, would I expect about the same?","c_root_id_A":"gsgs5b1","c_root_id_B":"gsgdmub","created_at_utc_A":1616861351,"created_at_utc_B":1616856509,"score_A":5,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Your cousin is filling up way too often lol. I know full size trucks aren't efficient, but they also have huge gas tanks. I seriously doubt he **needs** gas every 120 miles.","human_ref_B":"Your car is about 1000lbs lighter than that RAM. It's also *slightly* more aerodynamic. But your cousin's Ram is also fuel injected, and equipped with an electronically controlled transmission. Both of those things make his truck significantly more efficient.   My guess is that you'll get 20mpg on the highway, and probably 10 in town.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4842.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"rxa12s","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Worst car you ever owned? Would like to know what cars to avoid.","c_root_id_A":"hrh0bcs","c_root_id_B":"hrhlv8t","created_at_utc_A":1641461951,"created_at_utc_B":1641476039,"score_A":8,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"i have had lots of terrible cars (but they made best car stories lol)  the 70s toyota corona that had so much rust it wasnt funny  avoid anything with a chev\/holden\/opel\/vauxhall\/ badge like astras  any car you dont know anything about like rotaries (unless your name is Rob Dahm)   if you find a car you like find out all you can about it first. so you already know what o expect before you lay your money down.","human_ref_B":"All the fords (1999-2007) have been pieces of shit.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":14088.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"rxa12s","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Worst car you ever owned? Would like to know what cars to avoid.","c_root_id_A":"hrhlv8t","c_root_id_B":"hrgxy4x","created_at_utc_A":1641476039,"created_at_utc_B":1641460099,"score_A":14,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"All the fords (1999-2007) have been pieces of shit.","human_ref_B":"2019 Toyota Camry XSE.  I've had multiple generation Honda Civics, a Toyota Corolla, and a Honda Accord. By far, the Camry was the worst car I ever had. I owned it for just two months before selling it. The car was constantly making rattle noises like, everywhere. There was one in particular that wouldn't go away and you could hear it even when the radio is on; it was a shaking noise coming from the instrument cluster and I tried to get it fixed by going to the dealership 3 times. They weren't able to and ultimately said the noise was normal. The interior quality was trash. Doors felt very flimsy every time I closed them. Buttons felt cheap too. I bought the car as CPO with only 31k miles. It felt like it had 150k miles. I absolutely, *absolutely* do not recommend the 8th generation Camrys. My next car is a 2015 base model Accord and despite being a much older car, I can say that it's a heck of a lot better both inside and out. I enjoy driving it unlike the Camry. \ud83d\udc4e  I would give the Camry an F since it was just a gigantic waste of money.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":15940.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"rxa12s","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Worst car you ever owned? Would like to know what cars to avoid.","c_root_id_A":"hrh35wd","c_root_id_B":"hrhlv8t","created_at_utc_A":1641464174,"created_at_utc_B":1641476039,"score_A":3,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"I have not owned a bad car myself, but the worst car I can remember having in the family was a 1986 Ford Sierra. It was absolutely horrible. It basicly fell apart while we were driving. Door handles, and other bits fastened to the outside fell off, parts inside of it fell off, the whole exhaust system fell off while we were running at 100Km\/h on the highway, stuff like door latches broke, the rust bubbles multiplied on a daily basis and there was constant hassle with it. We bought it in 1995 so it wasn't even 10 years old. I know several other people who had them back then and pretty much everyone hated them. They were everywhere for a few years, and suddenly they were gone. I remember standing in the yard looking at it as a 9 year old kid while I was wondering what we had done to deserve this. Our neighbor had a 1960 Cadillac Eldorado, two 3rd generation Chevrolet Camaros and a big Chevrolet Starcraft van. And we had to drive what I then considered to be the most horrible manmade thing in the world. It was a far cry from our previous car, a 1976 Mercedes 230. We didn't even have the Sierra for two full years before we got rid of it and bought a 1982 Mercedes 230E instead.  The second worst car we had was a 2000 Daewoo Lanos. It was very difficult to find parts for it, and it was very uncomfortable to ride in. It handled about the same as most other small cars from the era, maybe a little worse. But the seats were horrible. So much that the 1998 Kia Sephia We had before it seemed like a luxury car in comparison.  My grandma had a 2005 Peugeot 305. She didn't drive it much at all, but it still needed a lot of attention and maintenance. And it was incredibly irritating to work on. A simple job like replacing the battery was needlessly complicated, because it was hidden away under layers of plastic covers, and the screws that held on the covers were hidden under lots of other things. Annoying would be the best description of that car. My dad owned an identical 305 for a while and had the exact same opinion of it.","human_ref_B":"All the fords (1999-2007) have been pieces of shit.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":11865.0,"score_ratio":4.6666666667}
{"post_id":"rxa12s","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Worst car you ever owned? Would like to know what cars to avoid.","c_root_id_A":"hrgz5ep","c_root_id_B":"hrhlv8t","created_at_utc_A":1641461036,"created_at_utc_B":1641476039,"score_A":2,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"Had a 2009 Ford Focus diesel that was nothing but pain and missery for the entire 3 months I owned it. Literally from like the week I brought it home till the day I sold it for thousands less than I bought it, nothing but problems.","human_ref_B":"All the fords (1999-2007) have been pieces of shit.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":15003.0,"score_ratio":7.0}
{"post_id":"rxa12s","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Worst car you ever owned? Would like to know what cars to avoid.","c_root_id_A":"hrh5wss","c_root_id_B":"hrhlv8t","created_at_utc_A":1641466281,"created_at_utc_B":1641476039,"score_A":2,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"1958 Hillman Minx - my first car. What a debacle. Fortunately, I doubt any would have survived","human_ref_B":"All the fords (1999-2007) have been pieces of shit.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":9758.0,"score_ratio":7.0}
{"post_id":"rxa12s","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Worst car you ever owned? Would like to know what cars to avoid.","c_root_id_A":"hrh0bcs","c_root_id_B":"hrgxy4x","created_at_utc_A":1641461951,"created_at_utc_B":1641460099,"score_A":8,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"i have had lots of terrible cars (but they made best car stories lol)  the 70s toyota corona that had so much rust it wasnt funny  avoid anything with a chev\/holden\/opel\/vauxhall\/ badge like astras  any car you dont know anything about like rotaries (unless your name is Rob Dahm)   if you find a car you like find out all you can about it first. so you already know what o expect before you lay your money down.","human_ref_B":"2019 Toyota Camry XSE.  I've had multiple generation Honda Civics, a Toyota Corolla, and a Honda Accord. By far, the Camry was the worst car I ever had. I owned it for just two months before selling it. The car was constantly making rattle noises like, everywhere. There was one in particular that wouldn't go away and you could hear it even when the radio is on; it was a shaking noise coming from the instrument cluster and I tried to get it fixed by going to the dealership 3 times. They weren't able to and ultimately said the noise was normal. The interior quality was trash. Doors felt very flimsy every time I closed them. Buttons felt cheap too. I bought the car as CPO with only 31k miles. It felt like it had 150k miles. I absolutely, *absolutely* do not recommend the 8th generation Camrys. My next car is a 2015 base model Accord and despite being a much older car, I can say that it's a heck of a lot better both inside and out. I enjoy driving it unlike the Camry. \ud83d\udc4e  I would give the Camry an F since it was just a gigantic waste of money.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":1852.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"rxa12s","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Worst car you ever owned? Would like to know what cars to avoid.","c_root_id_A":"hrgz5ep","c_root_id_B":"hrh0bcs","created_at_utc_A":1641461036,"created_at_utc_B":1641461951,"score_A":2,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"Had a 2009 Ford Focus diesel that was nothing but pain and missery for the entire 3 months I owned it. Literally from like the week I brought it home till the day I sold it for thousands less than I bought it, nothing but problems.","human_ref_B":"i have had lots of terrible cars (but they made best car stories lol)  the 70s toyota corona that had so much rust it wasnt funny  avoid anything with a chev\/holden\/opel\/vauxhall\/ badge like astras  any car you dont know anything about like rotaries (unless your name is Rob Dahm)   if you find a car you like find out all you can about it first. so you already know what o expect before you lay your money down.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":915.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"rxa12s","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Worst car you ever owned? Would like to know what cars to avoid.","c_root_id_A":"hriw7di","c_root_id_B":"hrgxy4x","created_at_utc_A":1641494080,"created_at_utc_B":1641460099,"score_A":8,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"anything nissan. built like shit, drove like shit, unreliable , junk","human_ref_B":"2019 Toyota Camry XSE.  I've had multiple generation Honda Civics, a Toyota Corolla, and a Honda Accord. By far, the Camry was the worst car I ever had. I owned it for just two months before selling it. The car was constantly making rattle noises like, everywhere. There was one in particular that wouldn't go away and you could hear it even when the radio is on; it was a shaking noise coming from the instrument cluster and I tried to get it fixed by going to the dealership 3 times. They weren't able to and ultimately said the noise was normal. The interior quality was trash. Doors felt very flimsy every time I closed them. Buttons felt cheap too. I bought the car as CPO with only 31k miles. It felt like it had 150k miles. I absolutely, *absolutely* do not recommend the 8th generation Camrys. My next car is a 2015 base model Accord and despite being a much older car, I can say that it's a heck of a lot better both inside and out. I enjoy driving it unlike the Camry. \ud83d\udc4e  I would give the Camry an F since it was just a gigantic waste of money.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":33981.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"rxa12s","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Worst car you ever owned? Would like to know what cars to avoid.","c_root_id_A":"hrh35wd","c_root_id_B":"hriw7di","created_at_utc_A":1641464174,"created_at_utc_B":1641494080,"score_A":3,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"I have not owned a bad car myself, but the worst car I can remember having in the family was a 1986 Ford Sierra. It was absolutely horrible. It basicly fell apart while we were driving. Door handles, and other bits fastened to the outside fell off, parts inside of it fell off, the whole exhaust system fell off while we were running at 100Km\/h on the highway, stuff like door latches broke, the rust bubbles multiplied on a daily basis and there was constant hassle with it. We bought it in 1995 so it wasn't even 10 years old. I know several other people who had them back then and pretty much everyone hated them. They were everywhere for a few years, and suddenly they were gone. I remember standing in the yard looking at it as a 9 year old kid while I was wondering what we had done to deserve this. Our neighbor had a 1960 Cadillac Eldorado, two 3rd generation Chevrolet Camaros and a big Chevrolet Starcraft van. And we had to drive what I then considered to be the most horrible manmade thing in the world. It was a far cry from our previous car, a 1976 Mercedes 230. We didn't even have the Sierra for two full years before we got rid of it and bought a 1982 Mercedes 230E instead.  The second worst car we had was a 2000 Daewoo Lanos. It was very difficult to find parts for it, and it was very uncomfortable to ride in. It handled about the same as most other small cars from the era, maybe a little worse. But the seats were horrible. So much that the 1998 Kia Sephia We had before it seemed like a luxury car in comparison.  My grandma had a 2005 Peugeot 305. She didn't drive it much at all, but it still needed a lot of attention and maintenance. And it was incredibly irritating to work on. A simple job like replacing the battery was needlessly complicated, because it was hidden away under layers of plastic covers, and the screws that held on the covers were hidden under lots of other things. Annoying would be the best description of that car. My dad owned an identical 305 for a while and had the exact same opinion of it.","human_ref_B":"anything nissan. built like shit, drove like shit, unreliable , junk","labels":0,"seconds_difference":29906.0,"score_ratio":2.6666666667}
{"post_id":"rxa12s","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Worst car you ever owned? Would like to know what cars to avoid.","c_root_id_A":"hriw7di","c_root_id_B":"hrgz5ep","created_at_utc_A":1641494080,"created_at_utc_B":1641461036,"score_A":8,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"anything nissan. built like shit, drove like shit, unreliable , junk","human_ref_B":"Had a 2009 Ford Focus diesel that was nothing but pain and missery for the entire 3 months I owned it. Literally from like the week I brought it home till the day I sold it for thousands less than I bought it, nothing but problems.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":33044.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"rxa12s","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Worst car you ever owned? Would like to know what cars to avoid.","c_root_id_A":"hriw7di","c_root_id_B":"hrh5wss","created_at_utc_A":1641494080,"created_at_utc_B":1641466281,"score_A":8,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"anything nissan. built like shit, drove like shit, unreliable , junk","human_ref_B":"1958 Hillman Minx - my first car. What a debacle. Fortunately, I doubt any would have survived","labels":1,"seconds_difference":27799.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"rxa12s","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Worst car you ever owned? Would like to know what cars to avoid.","c_root_id_A":"hriw7di","c_root_id_B":"hrhwdeg","created_at_utc_A":1641494080,"created_at_utc_B":1641480667,"score_A":8,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"anything nissan. built like shit, drove like shit, unreliable , junk","human_ref_B":"2009 Mini Cooper S. When it worked it was very very fun, the main problem was it never fucking did. I spent over \u00a33000 keeping that car on the road only for it to repay me by shitting a piston. Never again.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13413.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"rxa12s","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Worst car you ever owned? Would like to know what cars to avoid.","c_root_id_A":"hrijgzr","c_root_id_B":"hriw7di","created_at_utc_A":1641489456,"created_at_utc_B":1641494080,"score_A":2,"score_B":8,"human_ref_A":"2013 Ford Escape","human_ref_B":"anything nissan. built like shit, drove like shit, unreliable , junk","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4624.0,"score_ratio":4.0}
{"post_id":"rxa12s","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":1.0,"history":"Worst car you ever owned? Would like to know what cars to avoid.","c_root_id_A":"hrgz5ep","c_root_id_B":"hrh35wd","created_at_utc_A":1641461036,"created_at_utc_B":1641464174,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Had a 2009 Ford Focus diesel that was nothing but pain and missery for the entire 3 months I owned it. Literally from like the week I brought it home till the day I sold it for thousands less than I bought it, nothing but problems.","human_ref_B":"I have not owned a bad car myself, but the worst car I can remember having in the family was a 1986 Ford Sierra. It was absolutely horrible. It basicly fell apart while we were driving. Door handles, and other bits fastened to the outside fell off, parts inside of it fell off, the whole exhaust system fell off while we were running at 100Km\/h on the highway, stuff like door latches broke, the rust bubbles multiplied on a daily basis and there was constant hassle with it. We bought it in 1995 so it wasn't even 10 years old. I know several other people who had them back then and pretty much everyone hated them. They were everywhere for a few years, and suddenly they were gone. I remember standing in the yard looking at it as a 9 year old kid while I was wondering what we had done to deserve this. Our neighbor had a 1960 Cadillac Eldorado, two 3rd generation Chevrolet Camaros and a big Chevrolet Starcraft van. And we had to drive what I then considered to be the most horrible manmade thing in the world. It was a far cry from our previous car, a 1976 Mercedes 230. We didn't even have the Sierra for two full years before we got rid of it and bought a 1982 Mercedes 230E instead.  The second worst car we had was a 2000 Daewoo Lanos. It was very difficult to find parts for it, and it was very uncomfortable to ride in. It handled about the same as most other small cars from the era, maybe a little worse. But the seats were horrible. So much that the 1998 Kia Sephia We had before it seemed like a luxury car in comparison.  My grandma had a 2005 Peugeot 305. She didn't drive it much at all, but it still needed a lot of attention and maintenance. And it was incredibly irritating to work on. A simple job like replacing the battery was needlessly complicated, because it was hidden away under layers of plastic covers, and the screws that held on the covers were hidden under lots of other things. Annoying would be the best description of that car. My dad owned an identical 305 for a while and had the exact same opinion of it.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":3138.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"lmn5ku","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.88,"history":"What is everyone\u2019s opinion on the Pontiac Fiero? This may not be the right place for this, and if it\u2019s not please let me know what would be. I really do love the looks of the car, specifically the earlier years SE and not the GT fastback, but everywhere I look it seems to be nothing but a forgotten car. I get that it underperformed in terms of its potential (partially due to the Toyota MR2) and had some flaws in its design. However, surely those flaws have most likely been solved or can be solved on any surviving vehicle.","c_root_id_A":"gnvx34u","c_root_id_B":"gnw0xow","created_at_utc_A":1613657336,"created_at_utc_B":1613659322,"score_A":6,"score_B":14,"human_ref_A":"Girlfriend had 2 back in the day, one was a GT. Loved those cars, would like to have one now as a toy. Not great handling, but not bad for the era. They look a lot sportier than they are. Never had any mechanical trouble with them.","human_ref_B":"Watch this series.  lots of information,weak points, strong points.  Worth the watch even if a person doesn't like Fiero's.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1986.0,"score_ratio":2.3333333333}
{"post_id":"6kqf7m","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Hello. There's a wire hanging underneath my car that runs from front to back.. Pictures in other field. Can anyone help me identify it? I have a Jeep and there's a wire hanging down. The end is wrapped, but looks like it's supposed to be that way. Not by tape. There's a slight \"scratch\" with the metal inside the coating exposed. I don't know what this wire is. Is it important? Do I need to reattach it before I can drive? http:\/\/i.imgur.com\/b240mYA.jpg http:\/\/i.imgur.com\/0niC0Vf.jpg","c_root_id_A":"djnzy4r","c_root_id_B":"djo2qjl","created_at_utc_A":1498955268,"created_at_utc_B":1498959678,"score_A":2,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"Can you see where the other end of the wire goes and take a picture? The wire itself does not look like a wire that would be important, especially if it only has a single wire. The vehicle should be safe to operate if you really need to use it.","human_ref_B":"That wore looks like it may be an Addon item. was there a previous owner?   Any ABS or chk engine light on?  I say looks after,varlet because even though it looks like an ABS wire they usually don't have shrink wrapped splices in them.  Most factory whoring is either straight through or spliced by connectors. Not shrinkwrapped.   Also check in \/r\/Jeep.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":4410.0,"score_ratio":3.0}
{"post_id":"6kqf7m","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Hello. There's a wire hanging underneath my car that runs from front to back.. Pictures in other field. Can anyone help me identify it? I have a Jeep and there's a wire hanging down. The end is wrapped, but looks like it's supposed to be that way. Not by tape. There's a slight \"scratch\" with the metal inside the coating exposed. I don't know what this wire is. Is it important? Do I need to reattach it before I can drive? http:\/\/i.imgur.com\/b240mYA.jpg http:\/\/i.imgur.com\/0niC0Vf.jpg","c_root_id_A":"djo73v0","c_root_id_B":"djnzy4r","created_at_utc_A":1498966739,"created_at_utc_B":1498955268,"score_A":5,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Do you have trailer wiring? Sub amplifier in the trunk?  Almost all wires look the same with a few exceptions, so no one is going to be able to give you an answer unless jeep did something stupid and this is a common occurrence (not particularly likely). Follow it both ways. One end will go to a power source, other end will go to the load. That or find something that stopped working. That's all you can do.   Edit: actually, that sort of looms like coax. Any evidence of a cb or ham radio?","human_ref_B":"Can you see where the other end of the wire goes and take a picture? The wire itself does not look like a wire that would be important, especially if it only has a single wire. The vehicle should be safe to operate if you really need to use it.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":11471.0,"score_ratio":2.5}
{"post_id":"ds6604","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"BMW e39 M5 owners, what problems have you came across upon owning one and how did you solve them? A relative bought an e39 M5 with the intention of giving it to me (I am in the process of getting my license and this will be my first car). Just so I am prepared, what problems will I need to look out for that are both short term and long term?","c_root_id_A":"f6nn58s","c_root_id_B":"f6nx6h8","created_at_utc_A":1572995247,"created_at_utc_B":1573002275,"score_A":2,"score_B":13,"human_ref_A":"Didn't Savagegeese on YouTube just do a nice review on this car?","human_ref_B":"VANOS, oil leaks galore, clutches fairly often, expensive brakes\/suspension\/steering components, eats rear tires if driven correctly, makes every other car seem like a waste of time.  If you start with an E39 M5, you may never be happy with any subsequent car. Unless it bankrupts you. If you can afford to keep it going, it's phenomenal.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7028.0,"score_ratio":6.5}
{"post_id":"ds6604","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"BMW e39 M5 owners, what problems have you came across upon owning one and how did you solve them? A relative bought an e39 M5 with the intention of giving it to me (I am in the process of getting my license and this will be my first car). Just so I am prepared, what problems will I need to look out for that are both short term and long term?","c_root_id_A":"f6o6ao9","c_root_id_B":"f6nn58s","created_at_utc_A":1573008744,"created_at_utc_B":1572995247,"score_A":7,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Owned an 01 M5. Parts are ridiculously expensive. Seriously. It's the type of car you want to take to a good BMW mechanic, ie hard to find and high rates. Needs premium gas and they drink alot. Truly an amazing car but super expensive to run and maintain. 10\/10 would not recommend as someone's first car. Unless you have deeeeep pockets.","human_ref_B":"Didn't Savagegeese on YouTube just do a nice review on this car?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":13497.0,"score_ratio":3.5}
{"post_id":"ds6604","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.78,"history":"BMW e39 M5 owners, what problems have you came across upon owning one and how did you solve them? A relative bought an e39 M5 with the intention of giving it to me (I am in the process of getting my license and this will be my first car). Just so I am prepared, what problems will I need to look out for that are both short term and long term?","c_root_id_A":"f6oiywj","c_root_id_B":"f6nn58s","created_at_utc_A":1573019606,"created_at_utc_B":1572995247,"score_A":3,"score_B":2,"human_ref_A":"Fuck the naysayers, definitely do it.  Get yourself some torx sockets and get ready to spend some money on FCPEuro, but it will 100% be worth it.","human_ref_B":"Didn't Savagegeese on YouTube just do a nice review on this car?","labels":1,"seconds_difference":24359.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"hsjc5v","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Am I liable for the damage an auto body shop caused? I recently got my car fixed as I hit a deer coming back from a friends house and decided to take it to an auto body shop as there was a significant amount of damage done to the front of the car. Today, when I got it back, there was scratches on the front hood and the doors of the car. I also have a sub in my car and for some reason now that won't work either. Both my sub was working fine and there was no scratches on the doors and the front hood of the car before I took it into the auto body. I don't believe I would be liable for paying for that, but who knows.","c_root_id_A":"fyaw5gt","c_root_id_B":"fybvssr","created_at_utc_A":1594939452,"created_at_utc_B":1594961221,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"If you have any recent photos of the car, that would help. Do you have collision\/comprehensive coverage? Contact your insurance company regardless and document your findings, especially with images. Ask for the insurance information of the business owner before things get heated.","human_ref_B":"well you shouldn\u2019t be liable for it, it\u2019s the shop\u2019s fault that the damage occurred","labels":0,"seconds_difference":21769.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"hsjc5v","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Am I liable for the damage an auto body shop caused? I recently got my car fixed as I hit a deer coming back from a friends house and decided to take it to an auto body shop as there was a significant amount of damage done to the front of the car. Today, when I got it back, there was scratches on the front hood and the doors of the car. I also have a sub in my car and for some reason now that won't work either. Both my sub was working fine and there was no scratches on the doors and the front hood of the car before I took it into the auto body. I don't believe I would be liable for paying for that, but who knows.","c_root_id_A":"fyaxixj","c_root_id_B":"fybvssr","created_at_utc_A":1594940192,"created_at_utc_B":1594961221,"score_A":2,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Nah go to the shop and talk with them and if they won\u2019t help I\u2019m just saying a bad review goes a long way in the auto mechanic industry lol","human_ref_B":"well you shouldn\u2019t be liable for it, it\u2019s the shop\u2019s fault that the damage occurred","labels":0,"seconds_difference":21029.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"hsjc5v","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.8,"history":"Am I liable for the damage an auto body shop caused? I recently got my car fixed as I hit a deer coming back from a friends house and decided to take it to an auto body shop as there was a significant amount of damage done to the front of the car. Today, when I got it back, there was scratches on the front hood and the doors of the car. I also have a sub in my car and for some reason now that won't work either. Both my sub was working fine and there was no scratches on the doors and the front hood of the car before I took it into the auto body. I don't believe I would be liable for paying for that, but who knows.","c_root_id_A":"fybt5w3","c_root_id_B":"fybvssr","created_at_utc_A":1594959313,"created_at_utc_B":1594961221,"score_A":2,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"Verify the sub is even hooked up. If those panel beaters blew up your sub, they'd probably just disconnect it.","human_ref_B":"well you shouldn\u2019t be liable for it, it\u2019s the shop\u2019s fault that the damage occurred","labels":0,"seconds_difference":1908.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"bc2zb5","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Is my tire inflated enough to get me to a nearby shop (pics attached)? I live in the city and my tire has clearly lost a ton of air. This has also caused the tire to start stressing and crack, although its not clear in the picture. I can also check the PSI if that would help. Just need to get like a mile or two to a tire shop.  Flat Tie: https:\/\/ibb.co\/LzSKNqJ Not flat for perspective: https:\/\/ibb.co\/rd2YVXB","c_root_id_A":"ekndf29","c_root_id_B":"eknd3gs","created_at_utc_A":1555006016,"created_at_utc_B":1555005816,"score_A":8,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"If you're driving at low speeds, you'll probably be fine.  If your tire is showing cracks, it's beyond its useful life, so there's nothing to save it for.","human_ref_B":"Good time to use your spare tire. Also good time to buy a portable air pump so you could air it up next time. Worst case is it fails and you lose control and die in the wreck.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":200.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"bc2zb5","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Is my tire inflated enough to get me to a nearby shop (pics attached)? I live in the city and my tire has clearly lost a ton of air. This has also caused the tire to start stressing and crack, although its not clear in the picture. I can also check the PSI if that would help. Just need to get like a mile or two to a tire shop.  Flat Tie: https:\/\/ibb.co\/LzSKNqJ Not flat for perspective: https:\/\/ibb.co\/rd2YVXB","c_root_id_A":"eknd3gs","c_root_id_B":"eknpd31","created_at_utc_A":1555005816,"created_at_utc_B":1555013334,"score_A":4,"score_B":7,"human_ref_A":"Good time to use your spare tire. Also good time to buy a portable air pump so you could air it up next time. Worst case is it fails and you lose control and die in the wreck.","human_ref_B":"I bet you can limp it there. Just put on your hazards, drive slow and keep your window down on that side a bit, if you can, so you can hear as well as \u2018feel\u2019 the tire.   Just don\u2019t drive on your rim. If it deflated completely, game over.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":7518.0,"score_ratio":1.75}
{"post_id":"sabtga","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"How can I get better at manual? I know the real answer is practice practice practice, but the thing is I already know how to drive stick I\u2019m just not perfect at it. I\u2019ve been driving stick for a couple months now (96 accord) and to use an analogy it\u2019s like I\u2019m literate and can write but my handwriting\u2019s sloppy. I can get around town fine but I want to be smoother and effortless. What are some tips and tricks that new manual drivers should know?","c_root_id_A":"htsrhqk","c_root_id_B":"htsl0om","created_at_utc_A":1642889551,"created_at_utc_B":1642886930,"score_A":12,"score_B":6,"human_ref_A":"In no particular order:  Put the clutch all the way down to shift. Do it quickly and firmly.   Once you\u2019re in your gear, bring it up part way to its bite point, until revs have matched, and then lift the rest of the way smoothly. Don\u2019t try and do it in one continuous smooth motion, break it down into two stages: up to bite, wait, smoothly release. This will avoid jolting.  You\u2019ll get used to the bite point and engine noise\/revs in time.   Put clutch down when you\u2019re approaching idle speed, usually 800-1000rpm or a bit lower. This will avoid shuddering and stalling.  Use first to 10mph, second to 20, third to 30 etc until you\u2019re more familiar with the more optimal gears and speeds.  Don\u2019t pay much mind to your car telling you to Shift up or down, if it does, they quite often will suggest shifting at daft times   Be wary that gears 1 and 2 will often stick more than the others, and are harder in general to make smooth. If the stick doesn\u2019t want to go in, just be firm with it, it might grind in these lower gears from time to time, if it\u2019s happening too often you may need to work on it, but once in a while is par for the course. These problems are often worse when the car and gearbox are cold.  Don\u2019t keep the clutch pressed down when you\u2019re stopped, put in neutral unless you plan to go. This will help avoid bearing wear.  Don\u2019t leave it at the bite point until you need to move, you might need to at first, while you learn, but the aim should be to learn to do it all quickly. This will avoid clutch plate wear. Eventually you won\u2019t need to hold it at the point at all, you\u2019ll get the feeling for it.   In 2000 miles it will be second nature.","human_ref_B":"if the engines straining change gear.  should be completely effortless. should be like 2nd nature to you if you have driven enough manuals","labels":1,"seconds_difference":2621.0,"score_ratio":2.0}
{"post_id":"sabtga","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.89,"history":"How can I get better at manual? I know the real answer is practice practice practice, but the thing is I already know how to drive stick I\u2019m just not perfect at it. I\u2019ve been driving stick for a couple months now (96 accord) and to use an analogy it\u2019s like I\u2019m literate and can write but my handwriting\u2019s sloppy. I can get around town fine but I want to be smoother and effortless. What are some tips and tricks that new manual drivers should know?","c_root_id_A":"htt8r7v","c_root_id_B":"htsycaf","created_at_utc_A":1642896594,"created_at_utc_B":1642892306,"score_A":4,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"No matter how 'good' you are at driving manual, you will still grind a gear every now and then, you will miss a shift, you will stall it out, you will lurch and buck from a stop... it's part of the magic.     But all that sweet sweet smooth gear throwing in between is what makes it all worth it.","human_ref_B":"Yeah, practice is basically it.  I learned a lot \/ got a lot of practice in a short time driving off-road as it's super technical and you've got to be on it, as well as do a lot of stuff you wouldn't normally do.  There's little stuff like practising in traffic queues to see if you can trundle along stop\/start without touching the gas at all and without stalling it.   The legend that is Sir Jackie Stewart used to run a driving course where they put a tennis ball in a bowl on the hood of the car, and you had to drive the course without losing the tennis ball - smoothness is key.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":4288.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"mks19v","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Which car would you take on a track day? Hey guys,  I'm organizing a track day for a bachelor party and for the groom to be, I was wondering which car would be the most fun to drive of the following options. He's not a huge car guy but this is kinda a once in a lifetime opportunity so any advice would be appreciated.  * Porche 991 GT3 RS * Ferrari 488 GTB * Lamborghini Huracan  Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"gthglhe","c_root_id_B":"gthgrz1","created_at_utc_A":1617649445,"created_at_utc_B":1617649527,"score_A":18,"score_B":22,"human_ref_A":"If he is not big into car is would pick the ferrari or Lamborghini, the Porsche isn\u2019t as much of a status car and for a once in a lifetime thing I think he will like the other two more. Personally I would pick the ferrari for quality track driving or the huracan if he wants to brag on Instagram lol. Really any of the options will be fine because they are all performance based cars and  unless he races often he won\u2019t be pushing them to the limits anyways.","human_ref_B":"Probably the loudest and flashiest, so the Huracan.  Me I would go with the GT3 RS.  Maybe be a bro and get him a drive in both so he can compare. (not to say that what you're already doing isn't enough and is a very generous thing to setup for a buddy.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":82.0,"score_ratio":1.2222222222}
{"post_id":"mks19v","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Which car would you take on a track day? Hey guys,  I'm organizing a track day for a bachelor party and for the groom to be, I was wondering which car would be the most fun to drive of the following options. He's not a huge car guy but this is kinda a once in a lifetime opportunity so any advice would be appreciated.  * Porche 991 GT3 RS * Ferrari 488 GTB * Lamborghini Huracan  Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"gtim13j","c_root_id_B":"gthy01u","created_at_utc_A":1617669466,"created_at_utc_B":1617657427,"score_A":4,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"Porsche. Hands down. Then again, I personally would want to turn laps. If I just wanted to hoot and holler the whole time, Lambo. If I wanted something in between, I'd take the prancing pony.","human_ref_B":"porsche. they are known for their handling but that being said the other 2 arent to be sneezed at.","labels":1,"seconds_difference":12039.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"mks19v","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Which car would you take on a track day? Hey guys,  I'm organizing a track day for a bachelor party and for the groom to be, I was wondering which car would be the most fun to drive of the following options. He's not a huge car guy but this is kinda a once in a lifetime opportunity so any advice would be appreciated.  * Porche 991 GT3 RS * Ferrari 488 GTB * Lamborghini Huracan  Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"gti0z9f","c_root_id_B":"gtim13j","created_at_utc_A":1617658842,"created_at_utc_B":1617669466,"score_A":3,"score_B":4,"human_ref_A":"lambo or ferrari.  better pics.  but I'd take the 991rs all day long.","human_ref_B":"Porsche. Hands down. Then again, I personally would want to turn laps. If I just wanted to hoot and holler the whole time, Lambo. If I wanted something in between, I'd take the prancing pony.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":10624.0,"score_ratio":1.3333333333}
{"post_id":"mks19v","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Which car would you take on a track day? Hey guys,  I'm organizing a track day for a bachelor party and for the groom to be, I was wondering which car would be the most fun to drive of the following options. He's not a huge car guy but this is kinda a once in a lifetime opportunity so any advice would be appreciated.  * Porche 991 GT3 RS * Ferrari 488 GTB * Lamborghini Huracan  Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"gtiomce","c_root_id_B":"gtjvl9h","created_at_utc_A":1617670776,"created_at_utc_B":1617701776,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"I did exactly this for a friend\u2019s bachelor party. If he is a big guy, he won\u2019t fit in the Ferrari or the lambo. If possible, let him pick for himself when you get to the track. All of those cars are fun track cars and I\u2019d recommend the Ferrari; it feels like you\u2019re driving a rocket powered go-kart and it\u2019s awesome.","human_ref_B":"Similar to what many others are saying, if he isn't very into cars I'd vote the Lamborghini Huracan. It is flashy, has a screaming V10 engine, and is probably the easiest to drive fast.   2nd choice for him I would vote the Ferrari. It is also flashy, has a twin turbo V8 engine, and might be slightly faster around the track (but not enough for him to notice).  My last choice for him would be the GT3 RS. It's a raw car, with a wicked H6 engine, but definitely the least forgiving vehicle (more difficult to drive fast), the least comfortable, and probably wouldn't seem as exotic to him.  They're all amazing cars, and it were me driving, I would pick them in the reverse order, so you really can't go wrong. I'd like the GT3 RS as it tends to be one of the best cars for people who want to feel the car as they're driving, it's more of a race car. Next I'd pick the Ferrari since it is also more driver focused. Finally I'd drive the Lamborghini last, but I still think it is awesome, and has a cooler engine than the 488 GTB in my opinion. For me all of these are really close in comparison and would all be great to drive around a track.  So to answer your question 1. Lamborghini, 2. Ferrari, 3. Porsche. (1 & 2 is almost a tie)  I hope this helps, and I'm sure he'll have a blast regardless! :)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":31000.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"mks19v","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.94,"history":"Which car would you take on a track day? Hey guys,  I'm organizing a track day for a bachelor party and for the groom to be, I was wondering which car would be the most fun to drive of the following options. He's not a huge car guy but this is kinda a once in a lifetime opportunity so any advice would be appreciated.  * Porche 991 GT3 RS * Ferrari 488 GTB * Lamborghini Huracan  Thanks!","c_root_id_A":"gtivg2i","c_root_id_B":"gtjvl9h","created_at_utc_A":1617674315,"created_at_utc_B":1617701776,"score_A":2,"score_B":3,"human_ref_A":"If he's not into cars, the Ferrari or Lamborghini. They are exotic cars. Porsche... meh.","human_ref_B":"Similar to what many others are saying, if he isn't very into cars I'd vote the Lamborghini Huracan. It is flashy, has a screaming V10 engine, and is probably the easiest to drive fast.   2nd choice for him I would vote the Ferrari. It is also flashy, has a twin turbo V8 engine, and might be slightly faster around the track (but not enough for him to notice).  My last choice for him would be the GT3 RS. It's a raw car, with a wicked H6 engine, but definitely the least forgiving vehicle (more difficult to drive fast), the least comfortable, and probably wouldn't seem as exotic to him.  They're all amazing cars, and it were me driving, I would pick them in the reverse order, so you really can't go wrong. I'd like the GT3 RS as it tends to be one of the best cars for people who want to feel the car as they're driving, it's more of a race car. Next I'd pick the Ferrari since it is also more driver focused. Finally I'd drive the Lamborghini last, but I still think it is awesome, and has a cooler engine than the 488 GTB in my opinion. For me all of these are really close in comparison and would all be great to drive around a track.  So to answer your question 1. Lamborghini, 2. Ferrari, 3. Porsche. (1 & 2 is almost a tie)  I hope this helps, and I'm sure he'll have a blast regardless! :)","labels":0,"seconds_difference":27461.0,"score_ratio":1.5}
{"post_id":"end6n5","domain":"askcarguys_test","upvote_ratio":0.93,"history":"Can I get some advice on negotiating prices for a used car? Any advice would be appreciated but Im specifcally wondering on how to research prices for similar vehicles that could be used in negotiations.  E.g.  Does the car have to be the same year, how close should the mileage be?","c_root_id_A":"fdzt79i","c_root_id_B":"fe02j2o","created_at_utc_A":1578795233,"created_at_utc_B":1578801453,"score_A":5,"score_B":9,"human_ref_A":"How used? Newer used cars they barely budge on.  Like $500-1000 on a good day.","human_ref_B":"Check out websites like Edmunds, Kellys Blue Book, Nada, truecar. They will all give values of new and used cars. For newer cars they will even give you the average purchase price people paid in your area if it\u2019s available.  As far as negotiating with the dealer, go in with as much knowledge as you can find about the vehicle you are looking to buy.   The biggest thing to understand is they will try to sell you on the payment amount and not the final purchase price. You want to agree on a final purchase price you are happy with and then work out the monthly payment amount.    So if you know the vehicle you are looking at has an average sale price of 25k and they have it listed for 28k you want to negotiate that down to 25k before working out the payment.    Use a site like this to help you figure out what you should expect for payment in the price you are looking at. https:\/\/www.nerdwallet.com\/blog\/loans\/car-loan-calculator\/   Other things to look out for when buying used is warranty info. Don\u2019t just take the word of the salesmen that they factory warranty is still good and will transfer to you, ask for proof and get it in writing.  Also don\u2019t be afraid to bargain for things like free oil changes for a while, or undercoating, extended warranties price reduction. It\u2019s all negotiable. Biggest thing of all is don\u2019t be afraid to walk away from the deal if you are being responsible and with in market price of the vehicle.","labels":0,"seconds_difference":6220.0,"score_ratio":1.8}