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"selftext": "I want to complete a low honor playthrough, but the game suffers from a great deal of ludonarrative dissonance that, for me at least, makes low honor playthroughs feel \"wrong.\"\n\nFor example, when Dutch feeds someone to an alligator, Arthur finally starts to fully question Dutch and begins to doubt his motivations. The issue with this is that you can hogtie Sheriff Malloy and throw him to the gators right before the mission begins.\n\nIt becomes even worse after this point because Story Arthur is trying to do the right thing, whereas Open World Arthur is slaughtering the entire town of Valentine in a drunken rampage.\n\nIs Arthur just a bipolar psychopathic hypocrite? What are your thoughts?",
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"body": "The game adjusts to your playstyle. Literally both Low and High Honor work for a Redemption. You can just be robbing a ton of people, stagecoaches, killing folk who don't cooperate. And find yourself at very low honor. It's weird to save Jimmy Brooks (who is a legit test from the Strange Man to determine what type of man Arthur is) the more logical choice Arthur would make would be to kill him which makes u low honor, you spare him he is a high honor man, but then he will go and beat Mr Downes a family man right after. He's pretty rude in that mission yet after that you have him be such a kind cowboy fellow. It's widely inconsistent just like Arthur's character is. He is a conflicted man who does good and bad its intended inconsistency. The truth is both work though. High Honor doesn't mean Saint he still can do horrible things in free roam just with limit. He does horrible things in the missions. Low honor Arthur does horrible things with few limits, horrible things in the story. \n\nBoth work and people shouldn't be gatekeeping the playstyles. Although as the story goes on High Honor does get better and better for the narrative. I think at the start of Chapter 6 you should have high honor but before that it doesn't really matter.",
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"body": "It\u2019s a game and sometimes you just wanna go around blasting. I also wanted to see the other endings! \n\n\nUse cognitive dissonance as your excuse for Arthur if you want.",
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"body": "Arthur has anger issues, lean into them instead of deliberately improving. Or make him an alcoholic. Maybe he is questioning his ways but he is too angry/drunk/depressed to care enough, or he knows he\u2019s a lost cause and just wants to lash out.",
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"body": "I believe low honour suits Arthur. I believe he should be a piece of shit, who is a bit of a hypocrite complaining about Micah. Not rampaging civilians, but an awful human who's moral code is just delusion taught to him by Dutch.\n\nThen once he gets TB and faces death, he starts to reflect on his actions throughout his life.",
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"body": "You don't have to go around feeding sheriff's to gators for low honor. I got low honor just completing the bulk of the bandit challenges over a few days in chapter 2, with my starting honor pretty high. Just do the wrong thing in random encounters and rob a few people every day, end casual fights with shooting, don't say hello to townspeople, that kinda thing.",
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"body": "Heavy drinking, cocaine gum, all kinds of stimulants to go absolute berserker, either during robberies or missions,to the point where Arthur would be expected to be blacked out. \n\nThis could partially explain inconsistencies in his actions vs how he see's the life he lives with the gang. \nThe gunslinger mission intro, Arthur has a line \"Most people who need shooting, I shoot in the back\"(?). \n\nAnd pay such close attention to the journal!!!!",
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"body": "I hope I didn't come across as gatekeeping. I genuinely wanted to complete a low honor playthrough. It just felt strange for me personally to do so. My perspective on the story felt like that of a bad man redeeming himself as a good person.",
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"body": "I'd love to do that but the game is so damn immersive that I feel like I have to BE Arthur. I feel like I'm controlling a real person with their own moral values and beliefs, not just Farcry 5 faceless rook who can be whoever I want to be.\n\n(I replied right as you added the second part)",
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"body": "Oh no I wasn't talking about you. By Gatekeeping I mean people who just go like \"If you play low honor you played the game wrong, you aren't a true fan\"\n\nIt happens the other way around to high honor players but rarely.\n\nIf u want to do a low honor playthrough go for it. Don't be killing random folks willy nilly. Just be a criminal with standards.",
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"body": "Try seeing your Arthur as a bit of a sociopath. He acts certain ways in front of others, because he knows that\u2019s how he needs to act, but when he\u2019s out on the frontier by himself, he lets loose. \n\n\nAfter getting sick he acts remorseful because the boosts to his ego, but then goes scorched earth on the rest of the world because he\u2019s pissed",
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