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+how are you guys how is chris and how are you oh ha oh i'm sorry we're going to miss her yeah oh gosh i bet you're getting lonely yeah i had friends there mhm oh yeah yeah gosh you still got another month and then ar are you coming over to the states at all this summer no not even chris not enough relatives left here anymore yeah i remember when i talked to you in the fall that oh did your sister die i guess not when was it it may have been right after my father died right after we talked yeah we're getting old yeah yeah i'm going to put you on after fifteen minutes i've got to that that hadn't happ had that happened already yeah i think that there was some concern about her when i talked to you in september or october oh if that was you yeah yeah yeah and how about you because e i r e how are your eyes so are you having blurred vision or right right right frustrating yeah uh huh so it's just l is it is that like water on the knee is that what that is is that from the running mhm wow mhm was this last crop of tuft tuftees good was your last crop of students from tufts good right but they're winding down so you know them really well by this point oh how's he doing wow wow yeah heard that okay i just got a card from ron and doris and they see amy gleason on occasion and so i think they told me that have you heard from ron and doris they are now living in rhode island you probably knew that yeah and it was a very nice letter because it sounded like she went through very similar things that i did you know i went from chicago to u c s g to here and it's just such an intellectual leftd letdown and she went from penn to to columbia to u r i and she said the students are just you know they don't care and they're not very good and all of a sudden she's getting conference papers rejected and she thinks it's the affiliation because she doesn't think the quality of her work has changed now i haven't submitted a conference paper with the missouri you know w affiliation yet because the last one i submitted was in the fall and i still had my san diego affiliation in fact i'm still officially on leave if anything came up in the next year we could still go back you know for sam but i think it's e very very very very unlikely but at any rate it was nice to hear from her because she said after two years there now she has come to terms with this and she's accepted that there's a lot of good things in rhode island and you know e their life is a lot less complicated and she has more time to be a parent and she's just not going to have the same kind of career that she had thought about ron is working as a financial consultant for meryl lynch and he yeah he had been doing work for some environmental firm as a consultant and it didn't work out he he was changing projects every couple of weeks and he said he couldn't keep on top of it he couldn't learn the whole new area that fast each time and he says he went in and had some tests and he was diagnosed as having attention deficit disorder which you know given how he's how far he's gotten you know he got his degree at tufts and all i found that surprising that for the first time as an adult they're diagnosing this yeah but that's what he said and he right so he found this new job as a financial consultant and seems to be happy with that and then we saw leo and julie at christmas time and they're doing great they had just moved to a really nice house in westchester yeah an o an older home that you know julie is of course carving up and making beautiful now she had a job with an architectural group when she first got out to new york and that didn't work out she said they had her doing things that she really wasn't qualified to do and that she d really didn't feel competent doing and they mutually agreed that she should leave and so she was looking for another job and i'm sure she'll find one she's so talented she may have found one by now yeah and so we met adrian their kid who was three and just a really lovely little boy he's so big you know he's he's got leo's genes yeah and ron and doris sent us a picture of theirs and he has ron's expressions he really looks like ron and he looked really big too in this picture he's three and a half but leo and julie just seemed sort of happy with the decisions they've made and like every yes which one it might be a hard core brace i'm not sure i have two friends in publishing it may be the other one that just took the job with hard core brace i don't remember which one yeah he seems to feel really like he's doing the right thing and he is still in academic publishing my other friend just moved to trade publishing after years in academic publishing and you know it feels like maybe she made a compromise but it's like three times the money as with everything else so industry and academics yeah it's amazing and you know ages ago i got a card from liz gana i told you this because you showed us her picture and i keep thinking maybe i'd get in touch but i haven't done it and then i saw in the tufts thing that ginny totta is living you know in the alumni thing is living in the