Favorite Model?

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by OrangeApples - opened

Of the four models you've made so far with AshhLimaRP (dolphin, mythomist, openhermes, and synatra), which one is your personal favorite @Herman555 ?

My personal favourite currently is MythoMist, I think it's probably the best general RP/ERP 7b model we have from my limited testing so far.

Most prompt formats were tested and LimaRP Extended Alpaca preset is probably the best. However the prompt is more of a template and should be customized for higher quality outputs. It should also be noted that I prefer to roleplay with no asteriskses, using only quotation marks for speech which likely influences the quality of the output. Lastly the Ashhwriter dataset isn't perfect, the author has mentioned there might be typos and whatnot.

I think ultimately it depends on the kind of character cards you use. Besides the intelligence of the model the writing style is a big factor also and therefore the best thing you can do is try the models yourself. Brief impressions are as follow for the AshhLimaRP versions.

Dolphin 2.2.1 - Does romantic/softcore ERP well. Minimal impersonation. Good, believable emotions, quite smart in general. Suited to submissive character cards.

OpenHermes 2.5 - Exceptional hardcore ERP. Impersonation occured consistently at certain moments, extra instructions didn't help. Stupid GPT4 (I'm guessing) "And this will leave a mark on her heart forever" sort of crap. Basically unnecessary narration at the end is common. Weird prompt gibberish. Suited to dom characters.

Synatra 0.3 RP - I liked the writing style of this model a lot, it is not the sharpest model in the shed but I think it did both dom and sub characters decently. Minimal impersonation. Well suited for general ERP. In other words it's a jack of all trades.

MythoMist - I have been waiting for a 7b mythomax for a long time now, this is probably the closest thing to it. Smart model, beautiful writing. Going from Q4_K_M to Q5_K_M improved the quality of roleplay and simpleproxyfortavern presets significantly in SillyTavern, less impersonation. Same unnecessary narration problem.

All credits go to https://huggingface.co/lemonilia

Everything they come out with is fantastic and improves RP/ERP output quality tenfolds.

Which settings did you use? MythoMist seems to be way too verbose and repetitive.

If I can give my two cents here about this topic, I preferred the Synatra 0.3 RP between these four, the second one being the MythoMist.
Edit: Oh yeah, have you guys seen the Dataset openerotica/freedom-rp ?

Seems very interesting, the author have some others too.

Which settings did you use? MythoMist seems to be way too verbose and repetitive.

Use LimaRP format. I have uploaded it. Use the length modifier to set your response length.
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My most commonly used samplers in koboldcpp.

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If you are still having problems I just added my discord on my profile so feel free to contact me and I will try to help you if I'm able.

Edit: Oh yeah, have you guys seen the Dataset openerotica/freedom-rp ?

Seems very interesting, the author have some others too.

Seemed kinky enough lol.

If you are still having problems I just added my discord on my profile so feel free to contact me and I will try to help you if I'm able.

Thank you. I will try KoboldCPP and your settings.

I've played with lower temperatures and min_p and it got more predictable. Instead of basically generating inner monologues.

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