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com On a DA revolver, you get another try on a misfire. On a pistol where the trigger does not cock the hammer, like a Jennings, or an Astra M400, or a Glock, a misfire requires the slide be cycled to get the gun to function. Rather than a high capacity revolver, think of a Glock as an Astra M400 with no manual safety and a heavier trigger pull.

talk.politics.guns

Hi Xperts, some simple questions for you: I've seen a lot of different terms, which seem to mean the same thing. Who can give an exact definition what these terms mean: -) multi-screen -) multi-headed -) multi-display -) X-Server zaphod mode Is there a limit how many screens/displays a single server can handle (in an articel a read something about an upper limit of 12) ? How is the capability called, if I want to move the cursor from one screen/display to another. Any hints welcome. Thanks, rainer.

comp.windows.x

As someone who reads Israeli newpapaers every day, I can state with absolute certainty, that anybody who relies on western media to get a picture of what is happening in Israel is not getting an accurate picture. There is tremendous bias in those stories that do get reported. And the stories that NEVER get mentioned create a completely false picture of the mideast.

talk.politics.mideast

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I've always taken Murphy's Law to be an exhortation to prudence, and an observation about the behavior of complex systems, rather than a denial of divine benevolence.

soc.religion.christian

Of your spelling, eh? Dr Zippy.

talk.politics.misc

A little bit off of the subject but here goes yes he is one in the same (i.e. Chevrolet Motor Div) also his brother Gaston raced at Indy and was the winner in 1920. I have also seen the name Arthur Chevrolet in the early teens (1911 and on) I assume he is related Keith Nuetzman, nuet_ke@pts.mot.com Motorola Inc. Paging and Wireless Data Group Boynton Beach, Fl

rec.autos

I use PlugIn, an enhancement to Program Manager. It allows (1) for sure, I don't know on (2). Anyway, give it a try. I like it a lot and registered it right away It can be found at ftp.cica.indiana.edu [129.79.20.84] in /pub/pc/win3/util/plugin13.zip -Bruce

comp.os.ms-windows.misc

We have been shipping for over one year the Adobe Display PostScript (DPS) on Silicon Graphics workstations, file servers, and supercomputers. The Adobe Illustrator 3.5 for Silicon Graphics machines was released last February. Adobe and SGI announced last October that Photoshop will be available on SGI systems in 1993. Initial release will support 24-bit color graphics.

comp.graphics

I had knee surgery while I was in the Navy back in 77. The doctors put me in a cast from ass-to-ankle. My only method of transportaion was a DOHC 450 Honda at the time. I found that by sliding back on the seat I could use my heel (did I mention it was my left leg?) to operate the shift. I would hook the end of the lever with my heel and lift my entire leg for up- shifts and just drop my leg on the lever for the down-shifts. Forget nutral, took WAY too much finesse for the leg! The crutches were bungee- corded to the right side of the bike with the "top" resting on the passenger peg and the right turnsignal sticking through the "hole" in the crutches. Every other day when I rode the 10 miles to Physical Therapy (tourture sessions) the doc would give me hell about riding a bike much less riding in my condition. Didn't stop me tho! B-P BTW. This is the same bike I assembled in my second floor barracks room and rode down the stairs when it was completed!

rec.motorcycles

JOB 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

talk.religion.misc

The above is probably not the most representative paragraph, but I thought I'd hop on, anyway... What strikes me as self-contradicting in the fable of Lucifer's fall - which, by the way, I seem to recall to be more speculation than based on biblical text, but my ex RCism may be showing - is that, as Benedikt pointed out, Lucifer had perfect nature, yet he had the free will to "choose" evil. But where did that choice come from? We know from Genesis that Eve was offered an opportunity to sin by a tempter which many assume was Satan, but how did Lucifer discover, invent, create, call the action what you will, something that God had not given origin to? Also, where in the Bible is there mention of Lucifer's free will? We make a big fuss about mankind having free will, but it strikes me as being an after-the-fact rationalisation, and in fact, like salvation, not one that all Christians believe in identically. At least in my mind, salvation and free will are very tightly coupled, but then my theology was Roman Catholic... Still, how do theologian explain Lucifer's fall? If Lucifer had perfect nature (did man?) how could he fall? How could he execute an act that (a) contradicted his nature and (b) in effect cause evil to exist for the first time?

alt.atheism

I think you are vastly oversimplifying things. We know that early Christians suffered totures because of their witness to Christ. For example: ACT 5:40 His speech persuaded them. They called the apostles in and had them flogged. Then they ordered them not to speak in the name of Jesus, and let them go. ACT 5:41 The apostles left the Sanhedrin, rejoicing because they had been counted worthy of suffering disgrace for the Name. It appears that the Jewish rulers of that time had a particular aversion to even hearing Jesus's name. ACT 5:28 "We gave you strict orders not to teach in this name," he said. "Yet you have filled Jerusalem with your teaching and are determined to make us guilty of this man's blood." Finally, the first apostle's death, James of Zebedee was certainly not by Rome's hand any more than the first martyr Stephen. The problem was that if one believed in the Resurrection, then one must believe in Jesus as truly being the Son of God and what He stood for and preached during His ministry on Earth. That would have been extremely difficult for some people, especially those that had plotted to kill Him.

soc.religion.christian

Typical 'Arromdian' of the ASALA/SDPA/ARF Terrorism and Revisionism Triangle. Well, does it change the fact that during the period of 1914 to 1920, the Armenian Government ordered, incited, assisted and participated in the genocide of 2.5 million Muslim people because of race, religion and national origin? 1) Armenians did slaughter the entire Muslim population of Van.[1,2,3,4,5] 2) Armenians did slaughter 42% of Muslim population of Bitlis.[1,2,3,4] 3) Armenians did slaughter 31% of Muslim population of Erzurum.[1,2,3,4] 4) Armenians did slaughter 26% of Muslim population of Diyarbakir.[1,2,3,4] 5) Armenians did slaughter 16% of Muslim population of Mamuretulaziz.[1,2,3,4] 6) Armenians did slaughter 15% of Muslim population of Sivas.[1,2,3,4] 7) Armenians did slaughter the entire Muslim population of the x-Soviet Armenia.[1,2,3,4] 8) ..... [1] McCarthy, J., "Muslims and Minorities, The Population of Ottoman Anatolia and the End of the Empire," New York University Press, New York, 1983, pp. 133-144. [2] Karpat, K., "Ottoman Population," The University of Wisconsin Press, 1985. [3] Hovannisian, R. G., "Armenia on the Road to Independence, 1918. University of California Press (Berkeley and Los Angeles), 1967, pp. 13, 37. [4] Shaw, S. J., 'On Armenian collaboration with invading Russian armies in 1914, "History of the Ottoman Empire and Modern Turkey (Volume II: Reform, Revolution & Republic: The Rise of Modern Turkey, 1808-1975)." (London, Cambridge University Press 1977). pp. 315-316. [5] "Gochnak" (Armenian newspaper published in the United States), May 24, 1915. Source: "Adventures in the Near East" by A. Rawlinson, Jonathan Cape, 30 Bedford Square, London, 1934 (First published 1923) (287 pages). (Memoirs of a British officer who witnessed the Armenian genocide of 2.5 million Muslim people) p. 178 (first paragraph) "In those Moslem villages in the plain below which had been searched for arms by the Armenians everything had been taken under the cloak of such search, and not only had many Moslems been killed, but horrible tortures had been inflicted in the endeavour to obtain information as to where valuables had been hidden, of which the Armenians were aware of the existence, although they had been unable to find them." p. 175 (first paragraph) "The arrival of this British brigade was followed by the announcement that Kars Province had been allotted by the Supreme Council of the Allies to the Armenians, and that announcement having been made, the British troops were then completely withdrawn, and Armenian occupation commenced. Hence all the trouble; for the Armenians at once commenced the wholesale robbery and persecution of the Muslem population on the pretext that it was necessary forcibly to deprive them of their arms. In the portion of the province which lies in the plains they were able to carry out their purpose, and the manner in which this was done will be referred to in due course." Serdar Argic

talk.politics.mideast

So in a few years there could be millions of these chips in the USA, all networked together? Sounds like a good science fiction story - the government wants to crack foreign DES (or whatever) messages, so they con the public into individually buying all of the components and installing them. Soon the US could be covered by the largest parallel computer in the world, built on top of our current phone net.

sci.crypt

1975 H-1 500 Brand new top end Chambers Clean + black! 1,500$ Paul: (510) 839-2161 Please do not contact this email address: contact the seller. Cheers

rec.motorcycles

Sega Control Panel Super Manaco GP II Catrridge One Regular Controller One Turbo Controller A/C Adapter A/V Cable Stereo Cable Carrying Bag I would like $90 plus shipping OR trade with Game Gear and game. Please e-mail if you feel interested, thank you!

misc.forsale

==== If that were true, I'd go for it.. I have a few friends who we could pool our resources and do it.. Maybe make it a prize kind of liek the "Solar Car Race" in Australia.. Anybody game for a contest!

sci.space

Nope, Germany has extremely restrictive citizenship laws. The ethnic Germans who have lived in Russia for over 100 years automatically become citizens if they move to Germany, but the Turks who are now in their third generation in Germany can't. It's not a very good example to show citizenship without descent. Karl -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

alt.atheism

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Just a random passing thought, but can anyone cite a documented use of encryption technology by criminals and terrorists. (Excluding the Iran-Contra Gang) -- Shaun P. Hughes sphughes@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu

sci.crypt

Take a lemon. Stick a copper strip into the lemon. Stick a galvanized nail in about 1 to 1-1/2 inches from the copper strip. You should get about 1/2 volt from it - enough to light an LED. * SLMR 2.1 * Support your medical examiner, die strangely.

sci.electronics

Yes, yes, yes. Motorcycling is slightly different to each and every one of us. This is the nature of people, and one of the beauties of the sport. And what view exactly is it that every single rider of cruiser bikes holds, a veiw that, of course, no sport-bike rider could possibly hold? Please quantify your generalization for us. Careful, now, you're trying to pigeonhole a WHOLE bunch of people.

rec.motorcycles

[stuff deleted] I recently bought a Leading Edge 80386DX-33 <mini tower case> and everything works fine. Leading Edge seems to be a decent brand and what-not. I would tend to say that it is a decent deal. The only things you might want to be wary about is that my L.E. computer has a back-plane mounted motherboard. Ie: The motherboard itself is a card that can be plugged in to a backplane. Some people don't like these configurations. The second thing is that whoever set up my computer at the factory didn't really know what they were doing. The installed windows video driver didn't even take advantage of the SVGA card/Monitor. Look forward to configuring the system optimally yourself.

comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware

[...] [...] Quite interesting. How does the US administration intend to persuade non - US governments to let the NSA eavesdrop on them? Or should U.S. companies install these chips in communication systems sold abroad without the customer's knowedge or consent, or not at all?

sci.crypt

Does anyone know of any recent information on the Frescoe work being done by the Consortium? I've seen the short description that was published in The X Resource, but am looking for something with a bit more depth to it.

comp.windows.x

:P>My atheism is incidental, and the question of "God" is trivial. :P :P>But........ :P :P>It matters a great deal to me when idiots try to force their belief on me, :P>when they try to enforce their creation myths to be taught as scientific :P>fact in school, when they tell me I can have no morals because morals are :P>from "God", when a successful presidential candidate says that an atheist :P>shouldn't be considered a citizen and couldn't be patriotic because "after :P>all this is one nation under God", when the fundies try to take over the :P>party that may well provide the next President of The United States of :P>America so that they can force their beliefs on the rest of the country, :P>et cetera.......... :P :P>That's why I subscribe to alt.atheism. :P :P>And in the middle of this, people who aren't mind readers pop up on :P>alt.atheism to tell me what I do or don't believe, or to concoct some :P>straw-man reason why I don't share their particular belief. :P :P>You think I should just accept this? :P :P>This isn't particularly a dig at fundamentalist christians. I have been :P>told on alt.atheism that I reject Allah because I am too proud to embrace :P>islam, and that I reject Krishna because my eyes are closed. But most of :P>the religious nuts who post on alt.atheism are some kind of militant :P>christian who can't accept that others don't share their beliefs. This :P>kind of stuff should be kept on talk.religion.misc, where it belongs. :P :P>ATHEISM ISN'T A BELIEF, IT'S THE ABSENCE OF BELIEF IN ANY GODS. :P> ------- :P :P>Do you have a problem with this? :P :P>> :P>>Bill :PFirst, I would like to say that atheism is in fact a belief. It is a beilief :Pbecause a belief in something you hold to with ador and faith. An atheist says there are no gods. This cannot be proven. therefore you are excepting this on :Pfaith alone. That is a belief. Secondly, you complain so much about how the :Pfundamental christians are trying to force their beliefs on you, but you don't :Pmention anything about how the atheists, such as; Madamme Murry O'hare(founder :Pof the Atheists Association in Austin Texas), and Robert Sherman(from the Chicago area) have been trying to force their beliefs on everyone by trying to get rid of God from our society by banning religious paintings from parks during Chistmas, forcing cities to change their town seals if there is any mention of God in it (like Sherman has done), or trying to get the slogan "In God We Trust" off of the American currency? You also talk about creation "myths" as if they are in fact myths and tha :P :P :P :Phave concrete evidece of this. You probably :Pdon't and that just enforces my point that your atheism is just as much belief as my christianity. If this is not so please do show me why it isn't. :PMark Covalt The only real problem I have with the argument of christianity is that they seem to ignore their origin that being Asiatic in origin. As soon as christians become the good non ego-centric Buddhists they are supposed to be, then I might listen.

alt.atheism

Scott -- look on ftp.cica.indiana.edu for gws.....zip. They embed the release number in the name, and I'm not sure what the lates is. It is Graphics Workshop. There is a DOS and a Windows version. Both work Great. I even had someone bring me some images from the Amiga, and converted them to great looking wallpaper as 256-color .BMP files If you can't find it, repost, or let me know, and I'll dig up the archive. dave --

comp.os.ms-windows.misc

Kent: You say that ^^^^^^^^^ Please don't! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Name just three *really* competing Rosicrucian Orders. I have probably spent more time than you doing the same. None of them are spin-offs from O.T.O. The opposite may be the case. Study Harder,

talk.religion.misc

There is X for the Amiga, but it'll cost you. GfxBase Inc., owned by Dale Luck, one of the original Amiga architects, sells X for the Amiga. There are many options available, including Motif. Call 'em and get the scoop. GfxBase Inc. 1881 Ellwell Drive Phone: 408-262-1469 Milpitas, CA 95035 Fax: 408-262-8276 I've got no connection with them, other than being a satisfied customer.

comp.windows.x

That's nothing. When a friend of mine went shopping for a small sedan a few years ago, she brought me along as a token male so the salespeople wouldn't give her the "bimbo" treatment. Her first choice was a Mazda 323, and second choice was a Nissan Sentra. We went to a Mazda dealership and described what "we" wanted. We started negotiating on the price, and the salesdroid kept playing the "let me run this price by the sales manager". After playing the "good salesman, bad salesman" game, we finally told him that if he didn't have the authority to negotiate a price, perhaps we should be speaking directly to someone who did. He brought in the sales manager who proceeded to dick us around with every trick in the book. (Read Remar Sutton's "Don't Get Taken Every Time" for a list.) Finally, after playing a few more rounds of "you'll have to work with us on this price", also known as "each time you come up a thousand dollars we'll come down ten", the salesmanager gave a signal to his two sales cronies, stood up, and said "well, we can't come down any more so I guess we can't help you" and they trouped out of the room, leaving us sitting in the salesman's office all by ourselves. Hmm. I'd read that sleazy salesmen sometimes bug their own offices so they can leave and listen in on couples discussing the sales offer, and I mentioned this aloud to my friend while we were sitting there wondering why they would leave us in the office instead of showing us to the door. For lack of anything better to do, I picked up the phone on the desk and called another Mazda dealership, asked for a salesman, and began discussing what kind of price they would consider. A few sentences into the conversation, Mr. Salesmanager broke into the line (!) and began telling me how rude he thought it was that I would call another dealership from "his" phone! I said that since he'd announced that our business was over, he shouldn't care, and every time I tried to talk to the other sales guy the sales manager would drown out our voices with his own. (How did he know that I was using the phone, anyway?) Finally, I hung up and we headed out of the showroom. Sales manager and cronies come out of a little unmarked room and he begins to berate us again. We say that we won't bother him anymore, we're going next door to the Nissan dealership. Then comes the part I wish I could have videotaped. As we go out the front door, the sales manager SHOUTS across the entire showroom, customers and all, "Go ahead! You DESERVE to buy a Nissan!" So my friend bought a Sentra.

rec.autos

}In article <C5D4Hv.8Dp@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> } }>> }>2.If Guns were banned, and a bunch showed up in south florida, it }>would be 100x easier to trace and notice then a small ripple in the }>huge wave of the American gun-craze. } ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ } } Do they teach courses in rude in Canada? They don't have too. Canadian culture is handed down largely from the United Empire Loyalists who fled from the American Revolution. Canuckleheads tend to have a "cratophilic," or government-loving attitude towards authority. Paul Prescod is right in line with this elitist bigotry and prejudice that all my Canadian friends hate in their fellow citizens. His sort of snobbish Canuck have an irrational horror of American democratic "armed mobs." Tim Starr - Renaissance Now! Assistant Editor: Freedom Network News, the newsletter of ISIL, The International Society for Individual Liberty, 1800 Market St., San Francisco, CA 94102 (415) 864-0952; FAX: (415) 864-7506; 71034.2711@compuserve.com

talk.politics.guns

I've installed X11R5 with patches for Solaris 2.1 on our SPARCstation LX / SPARCclassic pool. On the LX, X11R5 runs fine, but on the classics, after giving the command startx, Xsun prints the following messages: WARNING: cg3_mmap: can't map dummy space! Mapping cg3c: No such device or address and exits. Does anybody know how to fix this problem? Thanks in advance.

comp.windows.x

: Could some one tell me what: : Phar Lap err 35: The 386 chip is currently executing in virtual : 8086 mode under the control : of another program. You must turn off this other program in order : to use 386|DOS-Extender to run in protected mode. : means. : This shows up on a CompuAdd Express 486-33 whenever a program : such as Matlab or Maple is run. It has been tried under dr-dos : 6.0, msdos 5.0, and 4dos 4.01. There is nothing, nada, in memory. : Nothing appears on a virus check. : Anybody? : -- : spectre@jupiter.nmt.edu spectre@cyborg1.nmt.edu : "This world? And everything in it? *Illusions*, Richard! Every bit : of it *illusions!* *Do you understand that?*" -- Donald Shimoda I used to get this problem with AutoCad when using the NOEMS switch with EMM386.EXE in DOS 5.0. If you allocate some ram to EMM386 the problem should go away.

comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware

[text deleted] I wish that you had followed this thread before jumping to conclusions. I haven't seen anybody write that AIDS was a *punishment* for certain types of sin (this includes Mark Ashley who you were responding to here). I myself wrote that when you don't do things God's way that curses will come on you and others. Although one definition of 'curse' is 'retribution', I only meant 'harm or misfortune' when I used the word. Because God loves us he has told us the best way to live in his Bible. God doesn't cause curses, he warns us of them. Kevin Davis wrote (a while ago): The Bible makes it clear that we all equally deserve death (which is much worse than AIDS) -- we have all hurt God with our sin. Paul Conditt reveals his feelings: The first issue you bring up is your anger. It is "obvious"ly wrong to be angry (Gal 5:19-20) for any reason, especially *extremely* angry which is on par with hatred. Jesus has every reason to be angry at us for putting him on the cross with our sin, yet his prayer was "forgive them Father, they know not what they do." Knowing how forgiving Jesus has been with me calls me to be more forgiving with everyone out of love for Him. Please don't give in to anger, it will only cause foolish quarrels and more bad feelings. It's okay if you read something that bothers you, but you need to address it in a loving way. If right now, I felt like someone out there was saying that God punishes gay or sexually immoral people with AIDS because they deserve punishment that others don't then I would frame a response something like this: "It makes me feel very sad for someone to believe that AIDS, which is simply a harmful disease not so unlike any other, is God's punishment for people who have committed certain sins. God loves all of his children equally and rejoices when a single one comes back to him. We will all be judged after we die, but until then we all have the opportunity to accept God's grace by earnestly seeking after him with all of our hearts, believing the gospel's testimony, repenting of our sin, confessing that Jesus is Lord at baptism, and living a new life for him. Let us not judge someone to be eternally condemned. God's arm is not to short to save. He will do anything he can to move a hardened heart or a misled person. He works for the good of all men. Even through the worst of situations, he has set the times and places for all men that they may perhaps reach out and find him." The second issue you bring up is seeing people rationalize their fears of people with AIDS. Fortunately, what you describe as seeing is actually misperceiving. You have been missing the points made in the earlier posts and reacting in anger to attitudes that haven't been expressed. I know that its sometimes hard to discount your perceptions, but please try to be open-minded. You are quite correct in saying that we should reach out to all people because they all need Jesus. This is what my brothers and sisters and I do on a daily basis. If you would like to send me the name of the city and state you live in, I will find and get you in touch with some brothers who have AIDS or know people with AIDS and live nearby you so that you can see the loving attitudes for yourself. The third issue you bring up is the importance of how some individual contracted AIDS. How someone gets AIDS is only relevant to their salvation in that there may be repetence involved. The important point to be made, however, is that not listening to God's commands (or advice or warnings), i.e. sinning, causes harm or misfortune to yourself and others. For this reason, a good way to prevent the misfortune of AIDS, which can be transmitted in sinful ways, is to listen to God's advice and have sex only with your wife or husband. I hope that you are feeling better now, Paul. Love,

soc.religion.christian

I'm sorry about your friend. Really. But this anecdote does nothing to justify the "war on drugs". If anything, it demonstrates that the "war" is a miserable failure. What it demonstrates is that people will take drugs if they want to, legal or not. Perhaps if your friend were taking legal, regulated drugs under a doctors supervision he might not be in the position he's in now. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ...Dale Cook "Any town having more churches than bars has a serious social problem." ---Edward Abbey The opinions are mine only (i.e., they are NOT my employer's)

talk.politics.misc

I believe so, since the Buslogic cards have proven to be very reliable in OS/2 2.0.... Endusers (not OEM manufactures) will get all the software package with the card which includes drivers for Novell, OS/2, Unix & Xenix and so forth. Definitely.

comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware

Hey everybody: I want to buy a mac and I want to get a good price...who doesn't? So, could anyone out there who has found a really good deal on a Centris 650 send me the price. I don't want to know where, unless it is mail order or areound cleveland, Ohio. Also, should I buy now or wait for the Power PC. Thanks. BoB reply via post or e-mail at rrn@po.cwru.edu -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Novitskey | "Pursuing women is similar to banging one's head rrn@po.cwru.edu | against a wall...with less opportunity for reward"

comp.sys.mac.hardware

I've been to three talks in the last month which might be of interest. I've transcribed some of my notes below. Since my note taking ability is by no means infallible, please assume that all factual errors are mine. Permission is granted to copy this without restriction. Michael Sternberg, Cheif of Operations of RIMSAT, was invited to speak at an informal lunch held by ACDIS here on the campus of the University of Illinois. ACDIS is an organization on campus that deals with Arms Control, Disarmament and International Security. RIMSAT was considered an appropriate topic because the company is using Russian launchers and satellites. I think it also helped that his daughter is a grad student in the International Relations program. The concept behind RIMSAT apparently began when Matt Neilson (?) went to Tonga to visit a friend. While he was there, he somehow ended up visiting the king, who happened to be a big TV fan. Matt bought the King a satellite dish, which the king thought was really nifty. Since Tonga has a GNP of about $70 million, His Majesty asked if there was any way to make money off this. Matt thought there probably was, so at his suggestion, Tonga applied for 31 geosynchronous satellite slots. While this isn't entirely off the wall, it was very unusual, seeing as Tonga was a tiny kingdom with no space program, and 31 is a lot of slots. The whole thing was debated in the appropriate regulatory agency and Carl Hilliard (who is apparently a respected space lawyer) wrote several opinions supporting Tonga's case. Eventually Tonga ended up with 7 slots, ranging from 70 E to 170 E (slots are designated by the longitude over which they reside). According to Sternberg, four of these, from 130 E to 142 E are the best in the world because they are excellently placed for communications between Hawaii and the Pacific Rim. RIMSAT was formed to use these slots. It was officially formed in Nevis as a tax haven. They tried for a few years to raise funds in the west, however, to fill 7 slots with western satellites launched on western launchers would have cost approximately $2 billion. It's not easy to raise that kind of money. Eventually, they hit upon the idea of using Russian hardware. They began negotiating with Glavkosmos for hardware. Mr Sternberg describes operating in Moscow in such harsh terms that I don't think I'll visit there for a long time. Besides a significant lack of creature comforts, he was not happy with the way that people operate. For example "everybody can sell you everything." Everyone can show the proper documents and licenses that indicate they are the only ones who have the authority to sell what ever you want to by. Eventually, RIMSAT arranged a deal with Glavkosmos for 6 satellites at a cost of $150 million. However, Glavkosmos lost favor after the coup. Sternberg says that this is because they were basically a bunch of KGB operatives who went to trade shows and picked up lots of brochures. Since Glavkosmos was out of power, he had to renegotiate the deal with the new authorities. He again described life in a Moscow hotel in rather unfavorable terms. Eventually, he worked out a deal and on Dec 4, 1992 he met with Koptev, who heads the Russian space program, to sign the deal. Koptev insisted on a few concessions before signing and according to Sternberg he arranged these new rules to allow himself to form another company to do the exact same thing as RIMSAT. The next step was to meet with the builders of the hardware, NPO Applied Mechanics -- NPO PM to use their acronym. This organization is located in Siberia (can't figure out how to spell the town, I need an atlas) and has built about 1500 vehicles since the dawn of the space age. Sternberg commented that siberians are very different from Musovites. They are hard workers, honest people who team up to get things done, very much like midwesterners. At this point there were some comments from the audience that agreed with his opinion on both siberians and midwesterners :-) Sternberg had lots of good things to say about NPO PM. His company is apparently lookng for $100 million to invest in the firm to become 50% partners.It apparently costs the Russians about $4 million to build a satellite that would sell for $50 million in the west. If you want to give them specifications, they'll build you a satellite. For the particular satellites that RIMSAT will be using, costs run about $378,000 per transponder year. This compares to $810,000 t/y in the U.S. They can sell their time for about $1.1 million compared to $2.6 million in the U.S. RIMSAT will launch their satellites on Protons. To get the best prices, they bought in bulk. They have the rights to twelve launches, so if any of you need a lift I can give you their address. The first launch is scheduled for October and they are getting one used satellite from the Russians, which is being moved into place now. Tidbits: * Sternberg says this kind of thing has to be done by entrepreneurs, not big business because big business is just like what they have over there, except that "we have better paper, both in the bathroom and in the copier." * Russian launches are self insured. The promise to replace a failed launch within 9 months. * Major investors in RIMSAT include Russell 20/20, which is a huge retirement fund organization, Cellsat, which is a big telecom business in southeast Asia, and a fund operated by some of the big names in U.S aerospace which he says is sort of an insurance policy for them if this really takes off. * He downplayed the instabilites in the ex-USSR saying that we are worried partly because we aren't used to seeing Russia as anything but an unvarying monolith. Italy gets a new government "every two weeks" but we don't worry because we're used to it. He predicted that once we get used to seeing what really goes on in Russia we won't worry about their stability as much. * Part of the problem with cooperative ventures is the problem of transfering money. The central bank has a policy of taking hard currency payments, putting 25% in their coffers and replacing the rest with the "equivalent" value in rubles. To get around this, RIMSAT pays their hard currency into an Austrian bank account. NPO PM then pays their contractors with foreign currency so that the only the contractors get swindled by the government. * One of the big problems RIMSAT has had is stonewalling by the western satellite industry. However, Intelsat recently bought three of the same type of satellites, which was rather reassuring. * The biggest worry most people have about russian satellites is the primitive technology and shorter lifetime. The older Gorizont (Horizon) satellites have a lifetime of about 5 years, while the more modern Express satellites compare well with western technology and last about 8 years. While this is much shorter than 15 years for western satellites, Sternberg downplayed the difference. At these prices they can afford to launch new ones. In addition, shorter lifetimes mean that they can replace their equipment with newer technology so they will be able to compete better than older, out of date hardware.

sci.space

This may sound like a simple-minded question, but this is the first time I've ever had a need for this: I've been designing some relatively simple chip circuits based on things like photoresistors (you know, no light to photoresistor, emit a logic high, etc.). Anyway, I've got some servos lying around, and I wanted to do some things with them using digital logic. I know all about having to pulse the signal and everything, I just have one problem: I'm assuming I need a negative (yes, negative) logic high to get the thing to turn in the direction opposite the direction it would turn under normal logic high. Is a negative logic high (I've seen this in schematics) the same thing as an active low, or what? I'm not using a bi-polar power source, so how would I get a negative logic high out of this thing? I need to have all three signals available: Logic high, logic low, and negative logic high. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Also, please reply via email, as I never seem to have time to read this (or any other) group lately. Thanks much, -mark

sci.electronics

Maybe not to you. But to those who stand on this base, He is precious.

talk.religion.misc

A list of options that would be useful. They can be existing options on a car, or things you'd like to have... 1) Tripmeter, great little gadget. Lets you keep rough track of> mileage, makes a good second guesser for your gas gauge... 2) Full size spare 3) Built in mountings and power systems for radar detectors. 4) a fitting that allows you to generate household current with the engine running, and plug ins in the trunk, engine compartment and cabin. Feel free to add on... 5) Power windows

rec.autos

Actually I favor government funded research. It *is* a pump prime for a lot of basic technologies. I also understand the short term value of high tech welfare programs. But they can't substitute for long range wealth generation via commercial enterprise. That's what's needed to maintain a healthy economy *anywhere*, on Earth or Luna. I don't see that long term potential on Luna due to a bunch of factors I outline in another post. Gary

sci.space

There is no such thing as "completely secure," especially when dealing with High Technology. It's all a question of cost: what cost are you willing to bear to protect your information vs. what rewards the "bad guys" are going to get if they break it. The rewards of breaking such a single ID system would be high indeed.

talk.politics.guns

[stuff deleted] My company maintains a 20,000+ mailing list which is regularly rented for one time use by the major software companies. The method you are using to "seed" your junk mail, isn't really effective. Bulk mailers regulary either send their databases to be "cleaned" by the NCOA, which if you've moved recently, will revert back to the original "xxx Cool", and in large mailings, there will likely be a dupe of you, and they'll pick the first, and use the others for future mailings. BTW, our list is currently one of the hottest lists for actual buyers of a MS Windows utility product in the $100 range, and is available through Direct Media in CT., at $0.10 per name. Please let your direct mail marketing rep. know about this.. Thanks.

misc.forsale

Cup holders (driving is an importantant enough undertaking) Cellular phones and mobile fax machines (see above) Vanity mirrors on the driver's side. Ashtrays (smokers seem to think it's just fine to use the road) Fake convertible roofs and vinyl roofs. Any gold trim.

rec.autos

First, I enjoyed reading your post. Second, I disagree with the Pen's weak spot being defense and goaltending - for a couple of reasons. Barrasso has had a spectacular year - no slow start, consistently sharp, GAA < 3.0, and leads the league in wins. Tommy deserves the Vezina. Given the lack of respect he commands, though, I doubt he will win it. The other reason concerns the Pens' team defense. They are hovering around 3rd or 4th in the fewest goals allowed. That is a big improvement for them, and it indicates that they are playing better team defense. We'll see. It'll be fun.

rec.sport.hockey

That happens to be a subjective example that the people of the US would happen to agree on. Continue to move the price up; at some point a few people would accept then more then more until probably all would accept at a high enough number. Endpoints of a subjective scale are not the given homes of objective viewpoints.

talk.religion.misc

Don A.B. Lindbergh meinte am 15.04.93 zum Thema "Diamond SS24X, Win 3.1, Mouse cursor": DA> Anybody seen mouse cursor distortion running the Diamond 1024x768x256 DA> driver? Sorry, don't know the version of the driver (no indication in the DA> menus) but it's a recently delivered Gateway system. Am going to try the DA> latest drivers from Diamond BBS but wondered if anyone else had seen this. No not at all. I'm using SS24X with BIOS 2.03 and driver from 13. Januar '93. I've never had any problems with the mouse cursor. Is there already a newer driver published? Greetings Sebastian Beer

comp.os.ms-windows.misc

[all deleted...] Sam Zbib's posting is so confused and nonsensical as not to warrant a reasoned response. We're getting used to this, too.

talk.politics.mideast

Why are you fooling around with analog for this job? A single chip micro and a crystal will do the job reliably and easily. An 8748 only costs about $5. That and a $1 crystal and you're in business. Embed the whole thing in a foam insulated blanket, power it from a solar cell, use the excess power to heat the assembly during the day and rely on the insulation to hold the heat during darkness. If you don't want to try thermal management, contact someone like ICL and have them cut you a special low temperature crystal. It'll cost at most $20. If you use a single chip micro, you're looking at a parts count of maybe 7. A processor, a crystal, two caps on the crystal, a power FET to fire the solenoid a flyback diode and a battery. This is fewer parts than you can build an analog timer for and is infinitely more reliable. Add a power zener diode (for heat) and a solar cell and the parts count screams up to 9. PD assemblers are available for all the common single chip micros. This application is so trivial you could even look up the op codes in the programmer's guide and create the binary with a hex editor. John

sci.electronics

The big win with the V-1 is not its range but rather its directionality and multiple-transmitter tracking (which you later called a "gimmick" -- a conclusion I disagree with). Since the detector incorporates multiple receivers it's not surprising that it's significantly more expensive. While the added capabilities may not help you, there is added value for those of us who live in areas where there are a lot of false-alarms. I certainly call it "interesting" but I'm another person who thinks that the added value might be coming at too high a cost. Very adequate radar detectors are available for less than half the cost and one of them has suited me rather well. If I did more long-distance travelling in areas I'm not familiar with I'd probably consider getting the V-1 because it's additional information would be useful in discriminating false alarms.

rec.autos

Why would you want to do that? The goal is to do it cheaper (remember, this isn't government). Instead of leasing an expensive launch pad, just use a SSTO and launch from a much cheaper facility. Allen

sci.space

Can someone out there tell me how to switch Window's screen resolution quickly and easily? I know that I can go back into install to do it, but what I'd really like is to have is the ability to just change a couple of startup or configuration files and have the resolution changed. I already have both video drivers that I need on my system, so that isn't a problem. Thanks, Sean.

comp.os.ms-windows.misc

The only info I have is my area is not having a large march. They are leaving it up to each congragation. IMO this means organizers found it too difficult to manage or no one feels the need to be involved. I'm not casting stones, my involvement with the Lord does not include the March this year. Maybe He is giving a message by the lack of one?? JLS

soc.religion.christian

Facts: ===== - A Netware Server 286A was roughly moved to a new location and left powered down for three months. - From memory it has an 80 MB hard drive. - Manuals and original disks are for SFT Netware 286 Level II V2.0a - When powered up, the CMOS was wiped. A technician examined it and pronounced the disk drive unusable. My investigations indicate that drive C is a type 27 (1024 cylinders, 9 sides). When CMOS set this way, COMPSURF runs happily, with 13 bad blocks. I use PREPARE to Hotfix the one internal drive. Install will proceed "successfully", but when I try to boot the server, it reports that the software is not serialised for this hardware. Internal examination indicates that the keycard is present, and there is one disk drive (or at least one large single unit). Attempts to configure a second drive in CMOS result in drive not ready errors. Questions: ========= The software is Netware 286 Level II and I can see burnt on to the screen SFT Netware 286 Level II V2.0a. However, to configure netware for level II (mirrored or duplexed disks) requires a second disk, yes? So how is the Novell Server 286A normally configured? 1. Can I install SFT Netware 286 Level II V2.0a as Level I, or is this what is causing my serialisation error? 2. Is the Novell Server 286A normally equipped with two hard drives, one of which has failed? 3. Would this mean I can not install the network software because it will not be serialised for this hardware with a failed drive? 4. What else can cause a serialisation error? 5. What happens if the keycard fails? 6. Am I doing something wrong? Can someone knowledgeable offer some comments and guides. Thanks for your time. Apology: ======= I appreciate that I have posted this request somewhat widely. As I'm dealing with somewhat archaic hardware and software I'm hoping that by casting my net further, I'm more likely to capture someone who has met this system before. I believe I can justify the groups to which I am posting. Please feel free to correct me if you feel this is an inappropriate place to post this.

comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware

Just a thought........Maybe it possibly has to do with the fact that it IS an Emerson. I've got an Emerson VCR which is #6 in the series. Returned it six times for various and never the same problems. Got tired of taking it back and fixed it myself. The Hi-Fi "window" was a bit off. Something like the Hi-Fi audio fine-tuning. When I was a Wal-Mart "associate" in '88-'89, we had AT LEAST one returned as defective EVERY SINGLE DAY. How's that for reliability? Face it--Emerson can make audio stuff (albeit not of premium quality), but they CAN'T make anything as complex as video equipment with reliability IMHO. Please, no flames. Just *had* to share my Emerson disaster in the light of this exploding tv. JC

sci.electronics

[From Kalat, J.W.. (1992): _Biological Psychology_. Wadsworth Publishing Co. Belmont, CA. Pg. 219. Reproduced without permission.] Digression 6.1: Miracle Berries and the Modification of Taste Receptors Although the _miracle berry_, a plant native to West Africa is practically tasteless, it temporarily changes the taste of other substances. Miracle berries contain a protein, _miraculin_, that modifies sweet receptors in such a way that they can be stimulated by acids (Bartoshuk, Gentile, Moskowitz, & Meiselman, 1974). If you ever get a chance to chew a miracle berry (and I do recommend it), for about the next half an hour all acids (which are normally sour) will taste sweet. They will continue to taste sour as well. Miraculin was, for a time, commercially available in the United States as a diet aid. The idea was that dieters could coat their tongue with a miraculin pill and then eat and drink unsweetened, slightly acidic substances. Such substances would taste sweet without providing many calories. A colleague and I once spent an evening experimenting with miracle berries. We drank straight lemon juice, sauerkraut juice, even vinegar. All tasted extremely sweet. Somehow we forgot how acidic these substances are. We awoke the next day to find our mouths full of ulcers. [... continued discussion of a couple other taste-altering substances ...] Refs: Bartoshuk, L.M., Gentile, R.L., Moskowitz, H.R., & Meiselman, H.L. (1974): Sweet taste induced by miracle fruit (_Synsephalum dulcificum_). _Physiology & Behavior_. 12(6):449-456. ------------- Anyone ever hear of these things or know where to get them?

sci.med

You can order one from Digital today. Cheers, / h+ -- -- Jon W{tte, h+@nada.kth.se, Mac Hacker Deluxe --

comp.sys.mac.hardware

Does anyone know where the program MONOUMB.386 is available .. I have checked my Windows system disks and MONOUMB2.386 is there but not the other one.. Thanks.. Stan Kucera

comp.os.ms-windows.misc

Does anybody know anything about the chips D6275A/D6235A/D6205A chips from DSP Telecommunications Inc? I'd greatly appreciate information about price, pinouts and peripherals. Regards, Henrik Bohre

sci.electronics

Forsale: SONY MHC-3600 HI-FI Bookshelf stereo system -9 months old -CD player -2 tape decks -Digital graphic equilizer -Tuner -4 speakers 60watts/channel -TOP OF THE LINE SONY BOOKSHELF SYSTEM Includes amazing remote that actually splits into two! Everything can be done from the remote (remote has digital display!). Has the highest quality sound-amazing bass! Not one scratch on system. VERY WELL TAKEN CARE OF. Originally purchased for $1299 + tax. I need cash, and I am looking to get around $750 for it. Since I really need the money, I will sell it to the person who gives me the highest offer, and I WILL ACCEPT THE BEST OFFER if not $750. Buyer pays insured shipping. Reply soon if intereseted.

misc.forsale

I'll point out that the whole point of the difficult amendment process was to require a super-majority to change the Supreme Law, making it impossible for a "majority" of the people to simply change the law on a whim. Simply changing the meaning based on "the representatives" of the people effectively destroys the amendment process. The State's, you know, are also entitled to a say under that process. I'll note that that right could be considered protected under the first amendment's protection of peaceful assembly. Unless you would consider a militia inherently non-peaceful, then they've stated the same thing twice.

talk.politics.guns

Sure, but the surface condition of most good autobahns is far better than most of the roads here. A dip in the asphalt that you test your shocks on at 60 will kill you at 130. Don't get me wrong, I love to drive quickly and they say my Probe will do 130, but that's 30 more than I've ever tried in it cause there isn't a decent enough piece of road hereabouts.

rec.autos

First of all, "ceremonial law" is an extraScriptural term. It is sometimes used as a framework to view Scripture. But if you look at Collosions, without going into it with the assumption that the Sabbath cannot be a ceremonial law, you will see that it does refer to the sabbath. against us to His cross, and therefore we should not be judged in what what food we eat, what we drink, the keeping of new moons and holy days, or the keeping of the sabbath. The word for sabbath in this verse is "sabbaton" and is used throughout the New Testament to refer to the 7th day. If there is any Scripture from which we get the idea of the ceremonial law, this is one of them, and the sabbath is listed among the ceremonial laws. If one goes into this with the fundamental assumption "the sabbath cannot be a ceremonial law" then he will have to find some way around it, like saying that this can only refer to the other sabbath holy days besides the 7tH day, Because "the sabbath cannot be a ceremonial law." But Paul is very careful in his letters to add some kind of parenthetcal statement if there is anything that can be seen as a liscence to sin in his writings. Also, why is the sabbath absent from the epistles (except for Hebrews 4, which talks about the rest that comes through faith?) Surely it would have been a big problem for first century Christians living in a society that did not rest on the 7th day. Especially slaves. Many new converst were slaves. It would have been difficult for slaves to rest on the sabbath if it had been mandatory. Why is there no mention of this in the epistles?

soc.religion.christian

|Hi, everybody: | I guess my subject has said it all. It is getting boring |looking at those same old bmp files that came with Windows. So, |I am wondering if there is any body has some beautiful bmp file |I can share. Or maybe somebody can tell me some ftp site for |some bmp files, like some scenery files, some animals files, |etc.... I used to have some, unfortunately i delete them all. | |Anyway could me give me some help, please??? | In response to a "different" kinda wallpaper, here's what I use. I think the original gif/whatever was called "not_real". The artist name and logo is in the lower right corner. You will need VGA I think, and I have this sized for 800x600 256 color screens. Use this in your Windows directory and do not tile it. Hope you enjoy.

comp.os.ms-windows.misc

I think you missed one of my points there. It takes *more* than a great GM to win a stanley cup, even once. Some of the guys on the list you gave earlier never won one. I agree that you and I could probably argue back and forth for days to no avail about who is the best GM in hockey- that is a matter of opinion, and who is to say my opinion is any better than yours or yours than mine? But the point of my *original* original post (if not well stated) was that Murray has the GM abilities but not the coaching abilities. Which leads to below: I think at this point there's a personal, emotional element involved here which transcends Murray's logical thought. As outsiders, it's fine for us to say, "He should hire a different coach." In fact, he has talked about doing so in the past. But, the press (here in Detroit, at least) has so built up this business about Murray never getting past the second round of the playoffs as a coach, that I think he has taken it upon himself to prove to the world that he *is* capable of coaching a team past the second round. He needs to, as the papers say, "get that monkey off his back." So it becomes a matter not of intelligence, but of pride. Is it foolish to let pride stand in the way of sound logic? Perhaps, but we're all a little that way from time to time. I think eventually he'll step down from behind the bench and concentrate on his GM duties, and the team will improve as a result. I think his coaching duties take away time he might have otherwise spent on GM work. In that sense, once he steps down as coach, we'll see how good of a GM he really is. I may not agree with everything you've said, but it's been fun discussing it with you.

rec.sport.hockey

But then, on the other hand, if you really loved that King more than you did yourself, and He loved you to the point of assuring you that the eternal time spent with him would be eternal ecstasy, would you really opt for that choice?

soc.religion.christian

does anyone have Prez. Clinton`s e-mail address. thanks a lot

talk.politics.misc

There's plenty of legroom on the Kawasaki KLR650. A bit short in the braking department for spirited street riding, but enough for dirt and for less-agressive street stuff. --

rec.motorcycles

As of yet, there has been no description of the general principles behind the Clipper proposal. For example, is this a public key system or a private key system? If the latter, then I don't see how the system could work (given that the keys are tied to the device and not the person). Further, the escrowed 80-bit keys are split into two 40-bit chunks. I would guess that the availability of one of these 40-bit chunks and a reasonable key-search machine, would allow you to read the traffic. I'm not suggesting that this is a deliberate weakness of the system, but it does make you think. Of course, this is easily fixable by giving out two 80-bit chunks which could be x-ored to generate the real 80-bit key.

sci.crypt

I'm not sure of the exact recipe, but I'm sure acidophilus is one of the major ingredients. :-)

sci.med

As a beginer, I just wonder how to transfer files from the Sun system (which is on the network) to my PC at home (not connected to the network). I tried to use 'COMit' to do so, but it was very slow and it seemed that getting multiple files at the same time was impossible. Could anybody give me some hints & infomation? Thank you in advance.

comp.os.ms-windows.misc

I suspect you mean laparoscopic instead of orthoscopic. By far the (still) best method to diagnose a hernia is old fashioned physical examination. If you have an obvious hernia sac coming down into your scrotum, or a bulge in your groin that is brought about by increasing intra-abdominal pressure.... Sometimes is not that obvious. The hernia is small and you can only detect it by putting your finger into the inguinal canal. Whether you have a recurrent hernia, or this is related to the previous operation, I can't tell you. The person that examined you is in the best position to make that determination. Are there non-invasive ways of diagnosing a hernia? Every now and then folks write about CT scans and ultrasounds for this. But these are far too expensive, and unlikely to be better than a trained examining finger. ====================================

sci.med

CBD>From: Christopher Bradley Devlin <cd1i+@andrew.cmu.edu> CBD>>but it's nothing compared to the (ahem) unique helmet CBD>>design seen in the new Animated Series: it has a huge opening for his CBD>>mouth, topped by the world's tiniest eyeslits above the enormous mouth CBD>>opening. Batman's helmet probably cuts you down to about 12 degrees of CBD>>unrestricted vision. With a helmet like this, he might just be better CBD>>off with the leather cap/mask thingy. CBD>C'mon, Batman doesn't need to SEE. He's Batman. CBD>Did you notice he only takes the bike out in the snow or rain? So let's see what we have on the Batdude so far: He has a weird helmet. He drags his knee in corners (thanks, Cookson, but how does he do it? Hidden Bat-pucks?), and he only takes the bike out in the snow or rain. Also, he lets Robin ride! I think I could have used a Bat-mom. Would have made getting my license a lot easier! There's a trend here: Stylish helmet, Stylish knee-dragging, rides only in Stylish cartoon precipitation. Hmm . . . Could it be that we're dealing with a veritable airborne mammalian poseur? Dare I say it, a BAT-SQUID?? (huh? Bat-Squid?) It all adds up now . . . Let's make the B-man an honorary DoD DuDe. All he needs is a DoD sticker. Actually, anyone have an address for Batman's current artists, both comic book and animated series? We'll write and ask if Batman would like to become an honorary Denizen! Yeah! Special To The KoTL: Is there a precedent for inducting an imaginary member with an imaginary motorcycle? Having seen the computers in the Bat-Cave, I think we can safely assume that he also has imaginary Internet access. Ryan Cousinetc.|1982 Yamaha Vision XZ550 -Black Pig of Inverness|Live to Ride KotRB |1958 AJS 500 C/S -King Rat |to Work to DoD# 0863 |I'd be a squid if I could afford the bike... |Flame to ryan.cousineau@compdyn.questor.org | Vancouver, BC, Canada |Live . . . * SLMR 2.1a * My (virtual) reality check just bounced.

rec.motorcycles

If this question is covered elsewhere, I apologize, but I need information fast. My department has been given a large sum of money to install a video system on our network of IBM RS6000 workstations. This is not an area in which I have any expertise, so I wonder if anyone out there can offer advice. We would like a system, based either on VHS or 8mm video which will allow one write video, frame by frame on tape for play-back in real time. It's for visualization of physics problems. Can anyone tell me what hardware is available which would work for our system? Some support software is obviously needed too, but nothing particularly sophisticated, since the software we actually use for the visualization is all already written. Please email with replies, as I don't read this group. Many thanks for your help.

comp.graphics

Does anyone know if there are any devices available for the Mac which will increase the number of serial ports available for use simultaneously? I would like to connect up to 8 serial devices to my Mac for an application I am working on. I must be able to access each one of the independently. If such a device exists, are there are any limits to the number of serial devices I can use? Any information is appreciated.

comp.sys.mac.hardware

That is an idea.. The most efficient moon habitat.. also the idea of how to get the people off the moon once the prize was won.. Also the idea of how to rescue someone who is "dying" on the moon. Maybe have a area where they can all "see" each other, and can help each other if something happens.. I liek the idea of one prize for the first moon landing and return, by a non-governmental body.. Also the idea of then having a moon habitat race.. I know we need to do somthing to get people involved.. Eccentric millionaire/billionaire would be nice.. We see how old Ross feels about it.. After all it would be a great promotional thing and a way to show he does care about commericalization and the people.. Will try to broach the subject to him.. Moonbase on the cheap is a good idea.. NASA and friends seem to take to much time and give us to expensive stuff that of late does not work (hubble and such). Basically what is the difference between a $1mil peice of junk and a multi $1mil piece of junk.. I know junk..

sci.space

Sorry. Wrong. This is how banks got started in the first place. Sooner or later your father and his pals will lend money to someone who eventually goes broke, and then they will realise that they havn't been managing risk very well. Then they will ask themselves what it is that they need to quantify risk, and to persuade borrowers not to take on greater loans than they can carry. And since they don't all want the worry of doing the calculations and handling the money, some of them will specialise in that. Then they'll reinvent interest, but like good Muslims, they'll call it something else. Riiiight. That's why John Major opened a new government department a couple of months ago to help to promote minority business. Because they can do it all themselves by lending one another cups of sugar.

alt.atheism

David posts a good translation of a post by Suat Kinikliouglu: [most of the original post elided] [KK] ***** VATAN SEVGISI RUHLARI KIRDEN KURTARAN EN KUVVETLI RUZGARDIR ***** In translation, as a public service: [most of the translation elided] ***** THE LOVE OF THE FATHERLAND IS THE STRONGEST OF ALL WINDS CLEANSING FILTH OFF SOULS ***** I think this part of the translation is questionable. Although I think the original quote is plain silly, you made it sound as if it is coming from a neo-nazi youth. For example, Turks talk of a "motherland" not a Germanic "fatherland". Why "filth" instead of "dirt"? The indeterminacy of translation is a well-known problem [1] so one may have to "fudge", but with some care of course. Is the following an equally valid translation? The love of one's country is the strongest wind to cleanse one's soul. See my point? Nevertheless, I think you translate well. oz

talk.politics.mideast

... ... Yeah...I've seen you're grand mother...I bet she could.

rec.sport.hockey

BBBBBBBB MM MM WW WW BB BB MM M M MM WW WW B B MM M M MM WW W WW BBBBBBBB MM M M MM WW W W WW BB BB MM M MM WW W W WW BB BB MM MM WW W W WW BBBBBBBB MM MM WW WW PRESS RELEASE TO:: ALL BMW RIDERS SUBJECT:: RALLY TIME IS HERE FROM:: BMW CLUB OF NORTHERN CALIFORNIA BMW 49'ER RALLY, MAY 27-31 (U.S. Memorial Day Weekend) San Francisco Bay Area - 20th annual BMW 49'er Rally, sponsored by The BMW Club of Northern Califronia, will be held at the Quincy, California Fairgrounds, from May 27-31, 1993 Included in the $42 pre-registration fee, $47 at gate, are 4 Star camping, field events and trophies, two dinners, rally pin, door prizes, Poker Run, vendor displays, Fun Run, English Trials, and live music playing throughout the weekend. Plus extras like hot showers, Tours, a Concourse D'Elegance and more. This is first time in the 49'er Rally's 20-year history that the event is being held in Quincy. And according to Pat Gardner, Rally Chairman, "The 49'er Rally's continuing growth and the need for a larger and more complete facility led us to Quincy. Plus we can get there on either of our two most favrite highways- Highway 70, which goes through the Feather River Canyon, or up from the South via the Northernmost part of the Gold Country's Highway 49." Day passes will not be available and non-BMW rider must be a pre-registered guest of a BMW rider. The Quincy Fairgrounds is located on California State Highway 70/89, two miles South of downtown Quincy. For pre-registration forms and additional information, write Doug Hubbard, BMW Club of Northern California, 41236 Norman Court, Fremont, CA 94539, or telephone <US> (510) 651-2195 ADDITIONAL NOTES:: This is a not for profit event and riders DO get their monies worth. Whether you've ever attended a rally before or not This is the one to make. The only problem has been that there are so many activities that attendees have to choose one over another. Quincy is a beautiful campground, lots of grass and little dust. For folks who have been to previous 49'er rallies at Mariposa, Quincy has lots of space, all of it flat so room is not a problem. There are buildings and such available if there is a change in the weather. Also the people of Quincy are going all out to welcome us. Registration will begin on thursday. Of course there are always early arrivals who will show up monday or tuesday. The registration fee pays for camping Thursday through Monday (5 days). There will be a tour Friday with the main events beginning Saturday. Sunday Evening will be the awards ceremony.

rec.motorcycles

Hi. Well, I really hate to make a decision, but recently, I have to choose whether stacker 3.0 or dos 6.0 with double space for my poor HD. I am using windwos 3.1 and I hope what I choose will live with windows. Any help will be appreciated.

comp.os.ms-windows.misc

Hello everybody, I hope that I insert the right Options, so that my question is only distributed through out Germany, because my question is more or less country dependend. Now the question: Is there anybody who can tell my if (and of course where) there is a ftp-site/archie (or whatever) where DIN fonts for X are available. I am looking for fonts holding the specification: DIN 16 DIN 6776 DIN V 40950 Thanks in advance Juergen Schietke Research Insitute for Discrete Mathematics University of Bonn Nassestr. 2 5300 Bonn 1 (Germany)

comp.windows.x

Jesus Christ!!! The score is now 6-0. The Pens are beating the shit out of the Devils who gave up in the middle of the 2nd period. ESPN does something smart. The announcer states "well folks this game is getting out of hand. Lets go to the Islander/Capitals game." I celebrate as I was actually making progress in my CS homework because I was so bored by the scheduled game. I tear down and throw on my jersey, Hunter scores I go ape shit 'cause this is the first caps game I've been able to watch all season. And what does ESPN do? they go back to the blowout that NJ hasn't a chance in hell of winning! The period ends and the sportscaster (CAPITOLS JUST TIED IT UP!! YES!! oops excuse me =) goes into his penguin worship mode (Dont freak pens fans! They are worthy of this! I'm so glad we wont have to play them as much next year!) and here comes the 3rd period...what? its the blowout again. Oh they were just waiting for the Cap/Isles to get out of intermission. Good they've put a close game back on. Wait! WHATS THIS SHIT?!! THEY'RE SHOWING THE BLOWOUT AGAIN! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG! (Oh guess what the score is now 7-0 penguins! Switch games you $%&*#@!!!) Holy shit they're changing games! ITS ABOUT GODDAMNED TIME!! Lets see if they'll stay. Later I think this proves by $#%&* point. The Caps game goes into overtime but "due to contractual obligations" they have to switch to the fucking baseball. (Sorry for my language but im PISSED!) What the hell were they going to do if their scheduled game went into overtime? ESPN get your head out of your ass.

rec.sport.hockey

Hello netters! I have a fairly weak question to ask everybody in netland. I've looked though the last FAQ for comp.graphics but I didn't find my answer. Thus the post. I'll keep it short. QUESTION: How do I display any raster files, gif files, iff or tiff images that I have on my "root window" or background? I have a sun ipc, openwindows 3.0, Sun OS 4.1.3 if that helps any. I've compiled POV for the sun and would like to display some of the work I have done as a background/tile. Thanks for any help or information that you provide. Have a good day. Scott Fleming OSI

comp.graphics

Yes, very serious. I claim that I can substantiate my statement that Rudman says he doesn't believe Perot was investigating him. You claim Perot was investigating him. If you will state that you were in error on this point, provided I produce the source, I'll go dig it up. Now give me one reason why I should go to the trouble if you won't agree to this? It is simple enough you know. But I don't have time to waste if you'll just blow it off with more of the tripe you usually post.

talk.politics.misc

If one reasons that the United States of America at one time represented and protected freedom << individual liberty and personal responsibility >> (and I do, in fact, think that this is true) and that totalitarianism << absolute government control and tyranny >> represents freedom's opposite (which it does), did the USA really win the cold war? Standard disclaimers ALWAYS apply! ---------------- Graham K. Glover ----------------

talk.politics.guns

Alan, you can start by teaching your children that the perpetrators of crimes no more represent the "Black community" than racist hateful Whites represent the majority culture (although there are many ethnic minorities who have fallen into the very trap that you are struggling with, and believe otherwise). The trap is the easy way out. For yourself, I think it would be a good idea to realize that the demographics related to the crimes you speak of have less to do with race, and much to do with socioeconomic status and disenfranchisement. You're going to find higher crime within *any* community comprised of *any* ethnic group or subgroup that has become dysfunctional, whatever the factors leading to that dysfunction. With ethnic minorities it is more usually than not, as I said, socioeconomic disenfranchisement. If, for example, you lived in an area where there were very few Blacks, but quite a few poor-for-generations Whites, you'd see the crime statistics reflecting the dysfunction of those White people. Would you then worry about whther your children would begin to see Whites as undesireable or whatever? The trap springs into action when our innate compunction to define "us" and "other" raises its little voice. The trap becomes dangerous when we stop to listen to that little voice and stop thinking like rational humans. It's interesting that Blacks are traditionally seen as *the* or the *most* criminal element in many of our urban areas. I don't know the racial makeup of Phoenix, so I can't speak to your situation. However, I live in San Francisco, a city that loves to tout its "ethnic diversity". Here, we have Black gangs, Hispanic gangs, Asian (yes, the "model minority") gangs, and even a few White gangs. The Asian gangs have become a particularly troublesome element for law enforcement here, mainly due (I think) to their propensity for engaging in organized criminal activities. But ask people on the street and they'll, 8-out-of-10 times, tell you that Black gangs and crime are what they most fear. During the "disturbance" in Los Angeles last year many of the rioters and looters were not Black. Some were even White! I remember being amazed at television news scenes that showed looting mobs where there were maybe one or two Blacks at most! My perceptions, gleaned from TV news, were further corroborated by numerous friends and relatives that live in Los Angeles. This may have been the country's first truly multi-ethnic riot. Yet I know from face-to-face and online discussion that in the minds of America the popular perception is that it was a *Black* riot! In closing, I'd like to say that you raise some interesting points that really need discussion. Our country has spent too long ignoring the racism (and its attendant ills) that is very much a part of our culture. As a people, we are afraid to face up to some hurtful truths, and the problem becomes compounded *daily*. We cannot afford to do it much longer. I truly believe that the well-being of ALL OF US depends on changing our current course of denial and repression. I wish you and your children, and all other people, of *all* colors, luck in avoiding the "trap". Peace, my brother. m. --

talk.politics.misc

This is the crux of the argument (to me at least). Both the SDCN and the non-SDCN camps seem to agree on the fact that a catcher's defense is basically nonmeasurable at present. You can talk about how important calling a game is, or framing the pitches, or blocking balls in the dirt. But there is little or no way to tell exactly how various catcher's rank in "defense". Looking at Lopez specifically; is there any reason to suspect that he is a bad defensive catcher other then the fact that the Braves (or the media) has labeled him a bad defensive catcher? As far as I can tell he doesn't have any particular problem in his mechanics (such as Sasser). He might be a little rough around the edges in blocking the ball, or framing the pitch to get a good call but all he needs to clear that up is playing and practice time. I can't see how repetitions at AAA are any better then reps in the majors! All we're left with is the calling the game aspect. Olsen and Berryhill at always given credit for calling good games and helping the pitchering staff. But this is a reputation that is given to almost all veteran catchers. How is catching at AAA going to help Lopez learn the major league pitching staff? The only way any catcher is going to learn Tom Glavine's pitches is to catch Tom Glavine. Similarly, I wouldn't be supprised if the pitcher's claimed to prefer pitching to Olsen over pitching to Lopez because they are used to pitching to Olsen. But given time they will say they are comfortable with Lopez. Now, since Lopez can't learn how to handle the major league pitcher's while he's in AAA and since he doesn't have any glaring problem in his mechanics, what is he going to learn in AAA that he can't learn just as well while in the majors?

rec.sport.baseball

Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt!! Sorry -- wrong. It would be an extremely hot idea...at least with the current Alphas. The available Alphas run up to 200 MHz. But they produce quite a bit of heat. In fact so much that they need special mounting with extra large heat sinks. Also Apple looks pretty commited to the PowerPC route instead of a deal with DEC. --Sid

comp.sys.mac.hardware

I was wondering if it's possible to change the window icons OLWM uses for things like xterm. Most of the defaults are pretty lame. Any answer (or where I can find one) would be most appreciated. Thanks

comp.windows.x

Hey! I am interested in buying a digital delay pedal, preferably capable of sampling and infinite repeat. (If you're familiar with Phil Keaggy, I want to mimic, or at least as close as possible, what he does in concert, i.e., click the pedal, play something, click it again, and what he played between clicks repeats infinitely while he playes leads over it) Anyway, let me know.....

misc.forsale

You think that's bad ... one year, we had all three New York teams in the playoffs and the cableco operator (SCNY once shared a channel with BET but someone forgot to throw the switch at 6PM) didn't know what I was talking about ... While it's nice that the NHL is back on American network TV, it faces the same problems as it did with the All Star game. Local preemptions and zero promotion (okay, I don't watch that much TV so I'm just foaming all right?). The league should have made sure that it was solid on cable before going to the networks. In year one of the new ESPN contract, the saturation coverage of SCA (all other games shown to completion, like the Quebec-Montreal and Sabres-Bruins overtimes) is missed around here. gld

rec.sport.hockey

There was a recent post about a BBS where you could download a replacement for comm.drv (Win 3.x) that fixed a lot of the problems with high-speed modems. Does anyone know of an ftp site where I can get it? Thanks, Alec Lee

comp.os.ms-windows.misc

Hello, Has anyone used the Requirements Analsys methodology Hatley & Pirbhai ? I am a British final year real-time degree student, and as a project I am covering this methodology. I would be very grateful to anyone who could give me their views on this method. Please mail me if you feel you can help, and I will send you my questions. Thanks in advance,

sci.electronics

.. Hmmm... Sounds vaguely similar to a problem I had a long time ago when I was trying to use Kermit. I was building a serial connection between my Duo 210 and my NeXT. I think the problem was in the handshaking. Basically, you need to make sure that the handshaking protocol is the same on both sides. A safe place to start is by selecting NO handshaking on either end. One problem is that the Zilog serial chip seems to get permanently wedged if you talk to it wrong, and only a reset will clear it. I don't know the specifics. But this could be a nonlinearity that screws up your attempts at debugging the system. It could very well be that you are doing things right--eventually-- but one wrong move (like trying a bad handshaking protocol) can screw up any further correct actions, until the next machine reset. I have wedged my Mac and also my NeXT that way. Now I can send files back and forth between the Duo and the NeXT without any problem, and at pretty high speeds too. I don't know what kind of chip the PC uses, but I think the Zilog 8530 is pretty standard.

comp.sys.mac.hardware

And yet, Jayne, as we read the Gospels and in particular the topics that Jesus himself spoke on, Hell figures in a large % of the time -certainly more than heaven itself. Paul, as we learn in I Thess, taught new believers and new churches eschatology and did not hesitate to teach hell and damnation. Rev, chapter 20:11-15 is very specific and cannot be allegorized. I think the word "throne" is used 45 times in Rev and that the unbelieving come to receive the assignment of the severity of judgement, for in John 3 we read that they are already judged. Rom 3 speaks that every mouth will be shut. There is no recourse, excuse or defense. Yes I agree with you. Life is often like a pendulum where it swings to extremes before stopping at "moderation." I think we have seen the extreme of the "hell fire & brimstone" preacher, but also we have seen the other extreme where hell not talked about at all for fear of offending someones sensibilities. I forget who founded the Word of Life Ministries, but I remember him telling a story. He was in a small town hardware store and some how a man got to the point of telling him that he didn't believe in Satan or hell. He believed everybody was going to heaven. It was at this point that the man was asked to pray to God that He would send his children to hell! Of course the man wouldn't do it. But the point was made. Many people say they don't believe in hell but they are not willing to really place their faith in that it doesn't exist. If this man had, he would of prayed the prayer because hell didn't exist and there would have been no fear in having his prayer answered. And yet, they walk as if they believe they will never be sent there. I'd use a different illustration however. I have to include myself in it. When I watch, say a Basketball (go Bulls!) game, and I see a blatant foul that isn't called, oi vey!. What's with that ref that he didn't make that call. It's unfair. And just so in life, righteousness demands payment. As the surgeon takes knife in hand to cut the cancer away, so God cuts off that which is still of the old creation. We must preach the Gospel in all its richness which includes the fact that if you reject The Way and The Truth and The Life, then broad is the way to distruction. I think I would fall in there somewhere. Actually it was both. After all, repentance isn't only a turning towards, but also a turning away from! No, again, if Jesus used it in His ministry then I can surely see that we should do it also. In love, of course, but in truth most assuredly. I have thought about writing something on this topic, but not now and here. I would say that there are some good reasons for its existence and its eternality. 1) God is Light. Yes He is love, but His love has the boundary of Holiness. 2) Dignity of Man. Either a man is a robot or he is a responsible creature. If responsible, then he is also accountable. 3) The awfulness of sin. Today we have a poor, poor concept of sin & God. 4) Christ. He was willing to die and go there Himself to offer an avenue to the "whosoever will."

soc.religion.christian

I have MANY questions for all you experts out there pertaining to apple's built-in video. #1, Do all macs that have built-in video have the ability to use VGA monitors? #2, If so/if not, which macs have this capability? #3, Can they drive SVGA as well? #4, how big of a vga monitor can they drive? #5, how can you tell if an unlabeled monitor is VGA? By the pinouts? if so, what should it look like? Particularly, i'm interested in knowing if the si or ci drive VGA, as well as the LC's capabilities in driving VGA/SVGA

comp.sys.mac.hardware

Sorry about not mentioning platform... my original post was to mac.programmer, and then decided to post here to comp.graphics. I'd like the 3D software to run on primarily Mac in either C, Object Pascal (Think or MPW). But, I'll port to Windows later, so a package that runs on Mac and has a Windows version would be ideal. I'm looking for a package that has low upfront costs, and reasonable licensing costs... of course :)

comp.graphics

I have read numerous posts over a period of several months, by this anti-Israel fanatic, hiding in the shadow of the respectable sounding name of the 'Center for Policy Research.' Obviously, it is no research center of any kind, unless 'researching' published documents to find material to use against Israel makes it so. Labeling a propaganda mill a research center is not surprising in itself. That is simply part of the propaganda process. I was curious if anyone knew who this anti-Israel fanatic hiding behind his phoney 'research center' name is. Is he an Arab? Is he some typical anti-semite hiding behind a veneer of 'anti-zionism?' Is he some Jew who perhaps lived in Israel and just couldn't make it there, and is now taking his failure out on Israel?

talk.politics.mideast

To display Millions of colors on a 16" monitor you need 2MB of VRAM in the Q950. Correct. This is the amount of on-board VRAM that the Q800 comes with. Yes this is possible. Technically, you only need to take out 2 of the VRAM SIMMs but leaving in the other two will not get you anything because the 950 cannot really do anything with 1.5MB of VRAM. It only knows 1MB and 2MB. Yes, this is correct. You get to 1MB by putting 2 256k VRAM SIMMs into the VRAM SIMM slots on the Q800's motherboard.

comp.sys.mac.hardware