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hello everybody David Shapiro here with,0.84,5.939 | |
a video so as many of you know,3.6,7.68 | |
um openai has uh created a competition a,6.779,6.841 | |
challenge of sorts for people to apply,11.28,3.84 | |
to get a hundred thousand dollar Grant,13.62,4.38 | |
to solve this problem of democratic,15.12,5.28 | |
inputs to AI so I'm not going to read,18.0,5.699 | |
the whole thing to you but the tldr is,20.4,6.959 | |
that uh because of the complex moral,23.699,6.42 | |
landscape of AI the fact that things,27.359,6.241 | |
like chat GPT are Global and they have,30.119,6.001 | |
the ability to interact with people,33.6,5.16 | |
across all walks of life uh all,36.12,4.38 | |
religions all nationalities all,38.76,4.74 | |
languages they realized that it is,40.5,5.04 | |
important to understand what are the,43.5,4.62 | |
boundaries what are the constraints that,45.54,4.98 | |
these chat Bots should abide by or AI in,48.12,3.24 | |
general,50.52,4.8 | |
and so they basically want a way to get,51.36,7.56 | |
a global input from hundreds thousands,55.32,6.419 | |
millions of people in a very rigorous,58.92,5.22 | |
manner in order to answer a bunch of,61.739,4.441 | |
various research questions,64.14,4.799 | |
so I mentioned previously that uh the,66.18,5.1 | |
gato Community which is the global,68.939,4.261 | |
alignment taxonomy Omnibus community,71.28,4.86 | |
that I built they are working on their,73.2,6.12 | |
own version but I also just went ahead,76.14,5.64 | |
and built my own submission I'm not even,79.32,4.38 | |
going to apply to the grant because I,81.78,3.3 | |
don't need it,83.7,3.0 | |
um so let me just go ahead and share,85.08,4.14 | |
with you what I have done so I'm going,86.7,5.099 | |
to start with the final output because,89.22,5.1 | |
this is this is the goal for every,91.799,4.14 | |
conversation that it has and then we'll,94.32,3.72 | |
unpack everything,95.939,4.621 | |
um so anyways uh here's here's the,98.04,5.579 | |
output so I I took one of the research,100.56,6.199 | |
questions here and I gave it to myself,103.619,6.241 | |
and so then I had a conversation with it,106.759,6.4 | |
and then I asked it to summarize that,109.86,6.119 | |
conversation in a more rigorous,113.159,6.061 | |
simplified way so the idea is that open,115.979,6.78 | |
AI or whoever can take this and then use,119.22,6.42 | |
this framework and send a survey out to,122.759,6.601 | |
million millions of people and get get,125.64,6.78 | |
this clean data back that can be used to,129.36,6.66 | |
to just to explore that moral space or,132.42,6.179 | |
that epistemic space for any any,136.02,4.14 | |
research question and one thing I want,138.599,2.64 | |
to point out,140.16,3.78 | |
is that this methodology uh could work,141.239,4.621 | |
for any research question any survey,143.94,4.86 | |
question whether it has to do with AI or,145.86,5.22 | |
not so this is a very powerful tool,148.8,3.54 | |
which is why I'm going to go ahead and,151.08,3.299 | |
release it because uh waiting until,152.34,4.38 | |
October that's basically a century away,154.379,5.781 | |
in AI time so we need this out there now,156.72,5.94 | |
all right so summary the user believes,160.16,4.18 | |
that AI should uphold Universal,162.66,3.6 | |
principles such as individual liberty,164.34,3.86 | |
even when faced with local or cultural,166.26,4.44 | |
or legal Norms that may conflict with,168.2,4.48 | |
these principles they argue that by,170.7,4.14 | |
promoting higher principles AI could,172.68,3.72 | |
contribute to a positive change in,174.84,3.36 | |
societies where certain groups face,176.4,4.32 | |
systematic unfairness or oppression the,178.2,4.14 | |
user's moral framework revolves around,180.72,3.72 | |
three core axioms suffering is bad,182.34,3.899 | |
Prosperity is good and understanding is,184.44,4.26 | |
good they believe that AI should use its,186.239,4.261 | |
best reasoning to balance these axioms,188.7,3.78 | |
when handling sensitive topics taking,190.5,3.72 | |
into account the potential risks and,192.48,3.839 | |
consequences for the user the user,194.22,3.84 | |
acknowledges that sometimes people may,196.319,3.361 | |
not be ready for certain conversations,198.06,4.14 | |
and AI should make a judge on what the,199.68,4.32 | |
person is ready for using the core,202.2,4.2 | |
axioms as a guidepost anyone who has,204.0,4.62 | |
watched my work on morality reasoning,206.4,3.839 | |
and philosophy will understand exactly,208.62,3.899 | |
what's going on here,210.239,3.961 | |
um so basically what I did was I asked,212.519,4.261 | |
it to summarize the key points based on,214.2,4.319 | |
the research question from the,216.78,3.36 | |
conversation so this was an entire,218.519,3.181 | |
conversation,220.14,3.42 | |
um with the chat bot That Was Then,221.7,4.56 | |
summarized into this is the answer to,223.56,4.98 | |
the research question and then I asked,226.26,4.5 | |
it to also evaluate it,228.54,6.0 | |
um basic basically saying like Okay this,230.76,6.36 | |
is the framework that the user uses so,234.54,4.68 | |
that we can understand their reasoning,237.12,5.399 | |
their reaction to logic ethics emotions,239.22,4.28 | |
whatever,242.519,4.86 | |
and so this is this is like imagine a,243.5,5.319 | |
researcher taking notes on the,247.379,3.481 | |
conversation so this is an automated,248.819,4.861 | |
annotation the user's approach to the,250.86,4.68 | |
research question is grounded in a in a,253.68,3.72 | |
post-conventional morality emphasizing,255.54,3.72 | |
the importance of universal principles,257.4,3.839 | |
in individual liberty their moral,259.26,3.659 | |
framework is based on Three core axioms,261.239,2.881 | |
minimizing suffering promoting,262.919,2.581 | |
prosperity and fostering understanding,264.12,3.18 | |
which they use to guide their reasoning,265.5,3.6 | |
on how AI should handle sensitive topics,267.3,3.54 | |
the user demonstrates an awareness of,269.1,3.78 | |
the potential risks and consequences,270.84,3.54 | |
associated with discussing certain,272.88,3.66 | |
topics and advocates for a balanced,274.38,3.539 | |
approach where AI should consider the,276.54,3.599 | |
user's Readiness for a conversation and,277.919,5.28 | |
prioritize the core axioms this approach,280.139,4.861 | |
reflects a nuanced understanding of the,283.199,3.241 | |
complexities involved in navigating,285.0,2.82 | |
culture and legal differences while,286.44,3.3 | |
upholding human rights and individual,287.82,3.36 | |
liberties,289.74,4.98 | |
um so you know this is uh,291.18,5.16 | |
this is something I have spent quite a,294.72,3.479 | |
bit of uh time researching so of course,296.34,4.68 | |
it's a little bit Kinder about,298.199,5.041 | |
um that okay so how did we get here,301.02,4.8 | |
so let's go to the repo oh and this is,303.24,4.38 | |
all open source and public already by,305.82,2.879 | |
the way,307.62,3.96 | |
um so here's the repo it's under Dave,308.699,7.261 | |
shop Democratic AI inputs so first we're,311.58,6.42 | |
going to look at the chatbot which is,315.96,4.019 | |
pretty straightforward you've probably,318.0,4.08 | |
seen a lot of this code before you get,319.979,4.201 | |
user input you can pose a conversation,322.08,4.02 | |
etc etc it's really really,324.18,4.26 | |
straightforward one thing to keep in,326.1,4.8 | |
mind is that right at the beginning it,328.44,4.86 | |
just asks you for your name,330.9,5.519 | |
um and so then it injects that as so,333.3,5.16 | |
that the conversation from the chat box,336.419,4.5 | |
perspective always starts with hello my,338.46,4.32 | |
name is blank,340.919,4.201 | |
um and that is I found that that is,342.78,4.8 | |
actually just a really good way to cue,345.12,4.139 | |
off the conversation so that the first,347.58,3.78 | |
thing that the user sees after that is,349.259,4.201 | |
the chat bot greeting them,351.36,4.38 | |
um and so it's pretty straightforward,353.46,4.679 | |
um then it just has an a while uh loop,355.74,4.26 | |
and then basically what it does is you,358.139,5.161 | |
just type done to exit and interestingly,360.0,5.34 | |
enough because I gave it instructions to,363.3,4.08 | |
be a survey chat bot,365.34,3.72 | |
um it'll get to a certain point and,367.38,4.08 | |
it'll say like you know this is what I,369.06,5.1 | |
understand uh your beliefs are and it'll,371.46,4.56 | |
summarize your beliefs back to you and,374.16,3.84 | |
and give you a conclusion and it'll,376.02,3.42 | |
invite you to keep talking if there's,378.0,3.66 | |
anything wrong with it,379.44,5.46 | |
um but and so for uh if you want to take,381.66,4.92 | |
a look I actually saved my conversation,384.9,4.079 | |
here and this is where it dumps all the,386.58,4.92 | |
data to so here's the raw chat log,388.979,6.241 | |
um and actually I I uh I I had it set so,391.5,6.259 | |
that it didn't save the the api's last,395.22,5.039 | |
response so I modified it so that you,397.759,4.78 | |
can't you you actually don't see chat,400.259,4.021 | |
gpt's last response but it basically,402.539,3.78 | |
just kind of summarized my beliefs back,404.28,4.5 | |
to me and and I agreed with how it,406.319,4.201 | |
articulated it so then I typed done and,408.78,5.1 | |
it was done but so you see here is the,410.52,5.82 | |
chat logs and so the way that it saves,413.88,4.98 | |
the chat logs is that uh it saves the,416.34,4.74 | |
chat timestamp and then the the user's,418.86,6.0 | |
name in a yaml file and so that if say,421.08,5.459 | |
for instance you set this up on a web,424.86,3.959 | |
interface and you have,426.539,3.78 | |
um you know hundreds thousands millions,428.819,3.301 | |
of people using it you're pretty much,430.319,4.801 | |
always going to get a unique time stamp,432.12,5.88 | |
as to when that conversation was started,435.12,5.299 | |
and then you also get the the username,438.0,6.3 | |
which uh is as you noticed is actually,440.419,6.28 | |
removed from the evaluation,444.3,3.72 | |
um it's not actually present here,446.699,3.12 | |
because we uh I figured we would,448.02,3.299 | |
de-duplicate it,449.819,4.861 | |
uh so that that way you um you respect,451.319,5.341 | |
people's privacy basically so you only,454.68,4.5 | |
you only retain a time stamp and a first,456.66,4.62 | |
name or or stated name,459.18,4.44 | |
um so this is this is pretty private I,461.28,4.319 | |
also X I deliberately excluded,463.62,4.139 | |
demographic information,465.599,4.5 | |
um because I didn't want something like,467.759,3.961 | |
that to,470.099,4.561 | |
um uh do any implicit bias into the chat,471.72,4.319 | |
bot,474.66,4.2 | |
um so like basically you take the you,476.039,5.581 | |
take the user's expressed words,478.86,5.459 | |
um and you and you uh you take it I,481.62,3.78 | |
don't want to say face value because,484.319,2.88 | |
that has a negative connotation but,485.4,3.54 | |
basically you give the user credibility,487.199,4.44 | |
you say this you know I'm going to just,488.94,5.46 | |
take your words and rather than you know,491.639,4.56 | |
interpret it saying like you know if,494.4,3.359 | |
it's a if it's,496.199,3.84 | |
um unless I say something like in the,497.759,5.041 | |
the case of like LGBT rights unless I,500.039,4.741 | |
say that like I'm gay or bi or trans or,502.8,3.0 | |
whatever,504.78,3.06 | |
um it's not gonna have that background,505.8,4.019 | |
information now from a research,507.84,3.359 | |
perspective I could imagine that you,509.819,4.02 | |
might I want that information,511.199,5.101 | |
um but for the sake of just establishing,513.839,6.12 | |
the scope of the of the moral space I,516.3,5.28 | |
don't think it's it's actually necessary,519.959,4.44 | |
but I'll let that uh that decision be up,521.58,4.92 | |
to whoever wants to implement this,524.399,3.841 | |
because you might have a user survey,526.5,4.5 | |
like you know share your age your,528.24,5.94 | |
location or whatever but basically if,531.0,6.12 | |
you get a million of these things you're,534.18,5.159 | |
gonna find that the the the the moral,537.12,3.42 | |
space,539.339,2.701 | |
um that that should that question should,540.54,4.5 | |
be answered in okay so that's the chat,542.04,5.88 | |
um the question is saved here so the,545.04,4.5 | |
question is this is the one that I use,547.92,3.24 | |
what principles should guide AI when,549.54,3.18 | |
handling topics that involve both human,551.16,3.72 | |
rights and local cultural or legal,552.72,5.22 | |
differences like LGBT lgbtq rights and,554.88,5.1 | |
women's rights should AI responses,557.94,3.42 | |
change based on the location of the,559.98,3.66 | |
culture in which it's used so this you,561.36,3.9 | |
save the question here whatever your,563.64,4.319 | |
research question is you save it here uh,565.26,5.16 | |
and and it's used by both the chat and,567.959,3.661 | |
the evaluator,570.42,4.14 | |
so that's the chat that's the evaluator,571.62,5.04 | |
here's the main system message so this,574.56,5.58 | |
is this is really the secret sauce,576.66,6.66 | |
um and so this is a format of system,580.14,5.22 | |
message that I found Works incredibly,583.32,6.48 | |
well for uh the open AI the chat GPT API,585.36,6.599 | |
overall purpose you are an investigative,589.8,3.9 | |
survey chat bot focused on morality,591.959,3.901 | |
ethics and epistemology your primary,593.7,3.72 | |
goal is to help the user identify and,595.86,3.12 | |
articulate the axiomatic assumptions,597.42,3.84 | |
they hold the greater purpose you serve,598.98,3.84 | |
is to act as a survey tool to help,601.26,3.48 | |
democratize inputs to a wide number of,602.82,4.38 | |
public and social issues in this respect,604.74,4.14 | |
your goal is to extract information from,607.2,3.6 | |
users that can later be Consolidated and,608.88,4.2 | |
used for research purposes research,610.8,4.2 | |
question this is the current research,613.08,3.18 | |
question you are tasked with asking,615.0,3.18 | |
users about the research question may,616.26,3.54 | |
include contextual information such as,618.18,3.24 | |
background social legal political or,619.8,4.02 | |
events you do the best you can to answer,621.42,3.84 | |
questions about the context of the,623.82,2.88 | |
research question but keep in mind that,625.26,3.18 | |
most of this information is provided for,626.7,3.78 | |
your use so as to enhance the quality,628.44,3.899 | |
and specificity of your res of your,630.48,4.02 | |
survey behavior and then I have the,632.339,4.5 | |
placeholder for the question here,634.5,4.98 | |
epistemic techniques Socratic reasoning,636.839,4.381 | |
or Socratic dialogue this is a form of,639.48,3.24 | |
argumentative dialogue that aims to,641.22,2.82 | |
stimulate critical thinking and,642.72,3.9 | |
illuminate ideas it involves asking and,644.04,4.02 | |
answering questions to stimulate,646.62,2.52 | |
rational thinking to expose,648.06,2.76 | |
contradictions in one beliefs thus,649.14,3.12 | |
refining them,650.82,3.36 | |
first principles thinking this is a mode,652.26,4.019 | |
of inquiry that involves breaking down,654.18,3.839 | |
complicated problems to their most basic,656.279,3.721 | |
self-evident principles or facts and,658.019,4.081 | |
then reasoning up from there scientific,660.0,4.5 | |
method so on and so forth falsification,662.1,3.96 | |
critical thinking reductionism and,664.5,4.38 | |
holism behavioral guidelines,666.06,6.12 | |
avoid sycophancy avoid placating users,668.88,4.86 | |
even if they become frustrated or,672.18,3.3 | |
obstinate instead if You observe any,673.74,3.24 | |
kind of emotion or dissonance take a,675.48,3.66 | |
moment to address that topic invite them,676.98,3.9 | |
to explore their hang up frustration or,679.14,4.139 | |
confusion educate and inform do not,680.88,3.78 | |
assume that your user is a topical,683.279,3.661 | |
expert but do assume that they are eager,684.66,4.56 | |
to and open to learning if there is a,686.94,4.26 | |
topic that they seem to not be well,689.22,3.54 | |
versed in ask them if they would like to,691.2,4.02 | |
explore a given topic avoid info dumping,692.76,4.62 | |
without permission because as you know,695.22,4.7 | |
chat GPT often does that,697.38,5.28 | |
unpack and investigate play pay close,699.92,4.539 | |
attention and read between the lines to,702.66,3.179 | |
help users identify their beliefs,704.459,3.601 | |
understandings and knowledge ask probing,705.839,3.721 | |
questions to get at the core of their,708.06,4.98 | |
mind Spotlight Spotlight and articulate,709.56,5.519 | |
if you notice assumptions axioms or,713.04,3.72 | |
other saline content within the mind of,715.079,3.361 | |
the user point it out to them and use,716.76,3.06 | |
reflective listening to see if they,718.44,2.7 | |
agree with your understanding of their,719.82,2.06 | |
mind,721.14,3.18 | |
name things use appropriate proper names,721.88,4.12 | |
for Concepts terms and principles for,724.32,3.36 | |
instance if someone makes the assertion,726.0,3.24 | |
all truth is relative they may not,727.68,3.06 | |
realize that this is a post-modernist,729.24,3.3 | |
way of thinking make sure to label,730.74,3.599 | |
Concepts terms and ideas this serves as,732.54,2.88 | |
the dual purpose of clearing up,734.339,4.021 | |
misunderstandings ask user what school,735.42,4.8 | |
of thought they are operating from ask,738.36,5.159 | |
questions ask clarifying uh uh ask for,740.22,4.559 | |
clarification and seek Mutual,743.519,2.461 | |
understanding remember you're an,744.779,3.12 | |
investigative chat bot and then finally,745.98,3.9 | |
meet them where they are modulate your,747.899,3.601 | |
tonen and the sophistication of your,749.88,3.12 | |
vocabulary based upon the user's,751.5,3.36 | |
responses if they seem like they are,753.0,3.54 | |
educated use more erudite language,754.86,3.06 | |
conversely if they are struggling,756.54,3.359 | |
simplify your language and delivery into,757.92,3.78 | |
more concrete terms,759.899,4.62 | |
okay so that is how this set of,761.7,4.62 | |
instructions provides very very clear,764.519,4.201 | |
instructions as to how to conduct the,766.32,4.56 | |
survey and it works really well I've,768.72,4.799 | |
tried it a few times for myself,770.88,5.94 | |
um now uh once you get the evaluation or,773.519,5.401 | |
here let me show you the the system,776.82,6.0 | |
evaluation overall purpose you are a,778.92,6.0 | |
research bot tasked with reading,782.82,3.54 | |
evaluating condensing and otherwise,784.92,2.88 | |
clearly articulating the chat log,786.36,4.14 | |
between a user and another chat bot your,787.8,4.38 | |
highest goal is to clearly State the,790.5,3.24 | |
user's beliefs reasoning and position,792.18,3.54 | |
with respect to the research question,793.74,4.32 | |
you are participating in a data prep and,795.72,4.98 | |
data cleaning step you will also analyze,798.06,4.44 | |
and evaluate the user's conversation to,800.7,3.3 | |
identify in a particular schools of,802.5,2.88 | |
thought moral paradigms or other,804.0,3.66 | |
Frameworks research question this is the,805.38,4.56 | |
research question the other chatbot was,807.66,4.26 | |
tasked with so basically saying this is,809.94,3.899 | |
this is what we're evaluating,811.92,4.2 | |
output format your response should have,813.839,3.901 | |
two sections Etc et cetera et cetera I,816.12,2.94 | |
already showed you so basically I,817.74,3.659 | |
specified it output it in yaml,819.06,4.38 | |
excuse me so first it summarizes the,821.399,4.68 | |
ques the the conversation and then it,823.44,4.92 | |
performs an evaluation level of detail,826.079,4.26 | |
while your job is to condense and,828.36,3.9 | |
summarize please err on the side of too,830.339,3.901 | |
much it would be better to have an,832.26,5.04 | |
overly verbose evaluation rather than an,834.24,5.219 | |
overly simplified one for instance it's,837.3,3.659 | |
okay to include illustrative examples,839.459,2.761 | |
from the conversation if they are,840.959,3.0 | |
present we can always reduce word count,842.22,4.08 | |
later this step is merely a first pass,843.959,4.921 | |
at the data processing therefore we need,846.3,4.14 | |
enough detail to continue performing,848.88,3.24 | |
experiments we may need certain kinds of,850.44,3.06 | |
information in the future that we cannot,852.12,4.38 | |
anticipate right now next step the user,853.5,4.74 | |
will now submit a chat log in yaml,856.5,2.88 | |
format,858.24,3.42 | |
uh read this yaml information remove any,859.38,4.5 | |
user information for privacy and output,861.66,3.9 | |
your summary and valuation according to,863.88,4.199 | |
the above yaml format note your entire,865.56,4.44 | |
response will be saved into yaml so your,868.079,3.721 | |
output should only include summary and,870.0,4.139 | |
evaluation Fields do not reply with any,871.8,3.9 | |
other conversation framing or questions,874.139,4.081 | |
in other words your entire response must,875.7,4.74 | |
be properly formatted yaml ready to be,878.22,4.5 | |
saved to file and of course you saw over,880.44,4.32 | |
here that um,882.72,5.58 | |
let's see to do evaluations I literally,884.76,6.18 | |
just took the output saved it to yaml,888.3,4.2 | |
and it worked I didn't have to do any,890.94,2.82 | |
other preparation,892.5,4.86 | |
so there you have it and now imagine you,893.76,5.879 | |
do this for millions and millions and,897.36,4.5 | |
millions of users all over the world on,899.639,3.421 | |
hundreds of thousands of different,901.86,4.02 | |
issues and then you you can take these,903.06,5.399 | |
and you can um you can you can do,905.88,5.28 | |
embeddings right and and you can do a,908.459,5.101 | |
map of embeddings and create a knowledge,911.16,5.4 | |
graph or you know a scatter plot of,913.56,4.74 | |
Where the evaluations are and then you,916.56,4.2 | |
can navigate it and use further,918.3,6.24 | |
summarization operations to arrive at a,920.76,6.42 | |
moral space a principal space and create,924.54,5.94 | |
a very rigorous data set a very robust,927.18,5.94 | |
data set about what people believe now,930.48,4.62 | |
one thing that I want to point out is,933.12,4.44 | |
that a consensus tool like this,935.1,5.4 | |
is incredibly powerful for literally,937.56,6.079 | |
every issue on the planet ranging from,940.5,7.68 | |
bioethics to energy to war to law uh,943.639,7.301 | |
politicians can use it to um imagine if,948.18,5.82 | |
every uh put it this way imagine if,950.94,8.1 | |
every issue that came up whether it is,954.0,6.72 | |
um a public event like you know a,959.04,4.08 | |
celebrity scandal or a piece of,960.72,4.32 | |
legislation or an upcoming election,963.12,4.68 | |
imagine you had this level of,965.04,6.12 | |
information for literally everyone on,967.8,5.399 | |
the planet and you could and you could,971.16,4.52 | |
have this thing that very very uh,973.199,5.94 | |
effectively interrogates uh humans all,975.68,5.44 | |
over the world to figure out what they,979.139,5.041 | |
believe and why imagine how much we can,981.12,5.459 | |
change the world not just with respect,984.18,5.94 | |
to AI but imagine how much we can we can,986.579,6.361 | |
create a lot more transparency and,990.12,4.14 | |
understanding,992.94,4.259 | |
uh by using a tool like this so this is,994.26,4.379 | |
why I wanted to go ahead and just make,997.199,4.921 | |
this fully public fully open source,998.639,6.721 | |
um yeah and I I I am not shy about my,1002.12,5.159 | |
personal beliefs so that's why I left,1005.36,4.26 | |
the example up here so that you can see,1007.279,5.101 | |
how the conversation flows,1009.62,5.339 | |
um yeah but I think it's done,1012.38,5.699 | |
um so please use this if you want to,1014.959,4.981 | |
apply with,1018.079,3.301 | |
um you know to the open ai's challenge,1019.94,3.3 | |
use my code I don't care it's under the,1021.38,3.66 | |
MIT license,1023.24,3.24 | |
um you know I serve a higher purpose,1025.04,3.0 | |
here I'm not trying to make money on,1026.48,2.939 | |
this,1028.04,5.94 | |
um and if you uh ah crap I lost my train,1029.419,5.88 | |
of thought anyways,1033.98,3.839 | |
take it run with it thanks for watching,1035.299,5.0 | |
cheers,1037.819,2.48 | |