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[ { "start": 0, "end": 5.12, "text": " Hey guys, this is David with The Verge, and after months and months of talking about it," }, { "start": 5.12, "end": 9.16, "text": " Apple's finally released the Mac Pro, and we've actually got one in our studio now." }, { "start": 9.16, "end": 11.64, "text": " It's designed very much for professionals, and so we're just going to give it to our" }, { "start": 11.64, "end": 15.88, "text": " video team, but before we did, we decided to connect it to a 4K Sharp monitor, which" }, { "start": 15.88, "end": 19.92, "text": " is the one that Apple's selling in its stores, and really start to see how this thing works." }, { "start": 19.92, "end": 23.14, "text": " The hardware, for its part, is really kind of wild looking." }, { "start": 23.14, "end": 27.96, "text": " It's about 11 pounds, it's about 10 inches tall and 6 inches around, and it's a lot smaller" }, { "start": 27.96, "end": 30.48, "text": " and a lot heavier than we expected it to be." }, { "start": 30.48, "end": 33.28, "text": " It's really cool, it's sort of an ornamental object." }, { "start": 33.28, "end": 37.02, "text": " There's only one Apple logo on it on the back, above all the ports." }, { "start": 37.02, "end": 40.92, "text": " Everything else is really stark and minimalist, and just crazy reflective." }, { "start": 40.92, "end": 43.52, "text": " We've only been using it for a few minutes now, but it's really quiet." }, { "start": 43.52, "end": 48.2, "text": " It sucks air up through the bottom and expels it out the top as part of a cooling process," }, { "start": 48.2, "end": 49.88, "text": " and it does it all the time, it seems like." }, { "start": 49.88, "end": 53.36, "text": " There's always air coming out of the top, but it never does it particularly loudly." }, { "start": 53.36, "end": 57.32, "text": " There's really almost no design or flair to speak of here, except a small power light" }, { "start": 57.32, "end": 58.32, "text": " on the back." }, { "start": 58.32, "end": 61.46, "text": " But when you spin it around, there's a light around all of the ports that lights up and" }, { "start": 61.46, "end": 63.96, "text": " just sort of breathes so you can see the ports." }, { "start": 63.96, "end": 66.66, "text": " So really, the story of the Mac Pro is its performance, obviously." }, { "start": 66.66, "end": 70.22, "text": " There's a new version of Final Cut that's designed to be really fast to render multiple" }, { "start": 70.22, "end": 74.62, "text": " cameras in 4K without any waiting, and we'll be playing games, we'll be doing all sorts" }, { "start": 74.62, "end": 75.62, "text": " of stuff." }, { "start": 75.62, "end": 79, "text": " But for right now, we're just watching 4K videos, and it's already really beautiful" }, { "start": 79, "end": 80.26, "text": " coming out of the Mac Pro." }, { "start": 80.26, "end": 84.08, "text": " The Mac Pro's on sale now, starting at $3,000, and we'll have lots more about it in the next" }, { "start": 84.08, "end": 88.64, "text": " few days." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 6.4, "text": " It's Wednesday, December 18th, 2013. I'm Dieter Bohm, The Verge's only GMO-free host." }, { "start": 6.4, "end": 8.32, "text": " This is 90 seconds on The Verge." }, { "start": 8.32, "end": 13.120000000000001, "text": " It's been a long time coming. Apple's brand new Mac Pro will finally go on sale this Thursday." }, { "start": 13.120000000000001, "end": 16.88, "text": " The company has completely redesigned the desktop. It's now a small black cylinder," }, { "start": 16.88, "end": 21.44, "text": " less than 7 inches in diameter. Despite the size, Apple claims it's still the most powerful" }, { "start": 21.44, "end": 23.36, "text": " Mac ever made." }, { "start": 23.36, "end": 26.6, "text": " That attention to detail and design won't come cheap, though. The new Mac Pro starts" }, { "start": 26.6, "end": 28.080000000000002, "text": " at $3,000." }, { "start": 28.08, "end": 32.28, "text": " Delta is taking a stand to make sure the skies are a little quieter. The company's CEO," }, { "start": 32.28, "end": 36.4, "text": " Richard Anderson, has made it clear that his airline won't be allowing in-flight calls," }, { "start": 36.4, "end": 41.48, "text": " saying they are, quote, a disruption to the travel experience. This comes in response" }, { "start": 41.48, "end": 45.76, "text": " to the FCC considering changing its policy to allow cell phone use in the air, but this" }, { "start": 45.76, "end": 49.08, "text": " has since drawn criticism from travelers and airline employees alike." }, { "start": 49.08, "end": 51.28, "text": " At last, I can get some sleep on long flights." }, { "start": 51.28, "end": 59.68, "text": " And finally, Stig Larsson may have only written three books in the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo" }, { "start": 59.68, "end": 64.04, "text": " series prior to his death in 2004, but that doesn't mean the series has to end." }, { "start": 64.04, "end": 68.04, "text": " The Swedish publisher of the Millennium trilogy has reportedly hired a new author to continue" }, { "start": 68.04, "end": 71.96000000000001, "text": " the series. The novel will feature the same characters from the original books, but with" }, { "start": 71.96000000000001, "end": 76.16, "text": " a completely new plot. Larsson had begun writing a fourth book, but the new series will not" }, { "start": 76.16, "end": 77.16, "text": " use any of that work." }, { "start": 77.16, "end": 81.28, "text": " And that's it for today's top stories. Coming up tomorrow, we reveal a trailer for Dieter," }, { "start": 81.28, "end": 86.56, "text": " an intimate look into my 2012 election night. Spoiler alert, it's just playing WoW and eating" }, { "start": 86.56, "end": 107.68, "text": " handicapped hot fries." } ]

[ { "start": 0.56, "end": 0.86, "text": " 2%." }, { "start": 0.86, "end": 1.8599999999999999, "text": " pppweeee" }, { "start": 1.86, "end": 31.78, "text": " Throughout my life, I've kind of always imagined myself" }, { "start": 31.78, "end": 39.06, "text": " to be pretty good at video games, better than average." }, { "start": 39.06, "end": 48.18, "text": " There was this one challenging game on the Nintendo, it's Battletoads." }, { "start": 48.18, "end": 54.78, "text": " For the average player, the game ends on the third stage." }, { "start": 54.78, "end": 61.74, "text": " Somehow word got out in my neighborhood that not only was Sean past the third stage, but" }, { "start": 61.74, "end": 68.38, "text": " he was on level nine or something, this level that nobody had ever seen before." }, { "start": 68.38, "end": 75.02000000000001, "text": " And suddenly all these strangers were crowded around the TV as I was playing it." }, { "start": 75.02000000000001, "end": 81.26, "text": " I remember being really excited, you get this adrenaline rush from people watching you do" }, { "start": 81.26, "end": 82.26, "text": " this." }, { "start": 82.26, "end": 88.66, "text": " Four or five years ago, it was getting late in the night and Sean's in his computer room" }, { "start": 88.66, "end": 89.66, "text": " or whatever." }, { "start": 89.66, "end": 92.42, "text": " And I'm like, what are you doing in there, is it time to go to bed?" }, { "start": 92.42, "end": 94.42, "text": " And he's like, I'm not coming to bed for a while." }, { "start": 94.42, "end": 95.89999999999999, "text": " I'm like, why not?" }, { "start": 95.89999999999999, "end": 99.74, "text": " And he goes, because people on Reddit think that I can't beat Battletoads and I'm going" }, { "start": 99.74, "end": 103.25999999999999, "text": " to do it live and I'm about to broadcast it right now." }, { "start": 103.25999999999999, "end": 110.62, "text": " Before I saw the King of Kong, I had always believed that that was the hardest game ever." }, { "start": 110.62, "end": 112.25999999999999, "text": " And I had beaten that game." }, { "start": 112.25999999999999, "end": 114.82, "text": " Well Donkey Kong without question is the hardest game." }, { "start": 114.82, "end": 117.12, "text": " It's ridiculously difficult on the first screen." }, { "start": 117.12, "end": 119.74000000000001, "text": " The average Donkey Kong game doesn't last a minute." }, { "start": 119.74000000000001, "end": 121.58, "text": " It's absolute brutality." }, { "start": 121.58, "end": 127.36, "text": " There's a scene in the movie where Billy Mitchell is saying, the people who could get besides" }, { "start": 127.36, "end": 133.94, "text": " myself that have been seen getting to the end of Donkey Kong." }, { "start": 133.94, "end": 139.3, "text": " Gee, now that I think about it, I don't think anybody has." }, { "start": 139.3, "end": 141.18, "text": " I took it as a personal challenge." }, { "start": 141.18, "end": 148.98000000000002, "text": " I almost took offense that nobody could do this thing, so I started saying, hey, could" }, { "start": 148.98000000000002, "end": 155.38, "text": " I maybe be good at Donkey Kong and get to the kill screen?" }, { "start": 155.38, "end": 164.18, "text": " There is a set number of levels and therefore a theoretical maximum score." }, { "start": 164.18, "end": 167.10000000000002, "text": " And people just want to kind of push that to the limit." }, { "start": 167.1, "end": 175.42, "text": " You have to stay on each board as long as possible, using really every available second" }, { "start": 175.42, "end": 182.98, "text": " to score points as efficiently as possible in order to beat the record." }, { "start": 182.98, "end": 185.18, "text": " That's it." }, { "start": 185.18, "end": 191.5, "text": " One million, thirty seven thousand five hundred." }, { "start": 191.5, "end": 192.5, "text": " I did it." }, { "start": 192.5, "end": 193.5, "text": " I did it." }, { "start": 193.5, "end": 194.5, "text": " I did it." }, { "start": 194.5, "end": 195.5, "text": " I did it." }, { "start": 195.5, "end": 197.34, "text": " I wasn't working." }, { "start": 197.34, "end": 203.14, "text": " I guess I should say I was a lot better at Donkey Kong when I was unemployed." }, { "start": 203.14, "end": 209.78, "text": " If a good game that would potentially go all the way to the kill screen and win the record" }, { "start": 209.78, "end": 217.86, "text": " takes about three hours and maybe it takes like an hour to get a game going, I mean that's" }, { "start": 217.86, "end": 224.52, "text": " just a large time commitment." }, { "start": 224.52, "end": 232.62, "text": " I had to play outside of my comfort zone in order to really compete and I put up a score" }, { "start": 232.62, "end": 238.18, "text": " that got halfway through the game, but it was on pace for like one point one million," }, { "start": 238.18, "end": 241.34, "text": " the score that won the event." }, { "start": 241.34, "end": 248.62, "text": " I think much of the community considers me to be a lucky player." }, { "start": 248.62, "end": 252.42000000000002, "text": " People don't think that I deserve it, like I don't belong." }, { "start": 252.42, "end": 256.02, "text": " Coming in this year, I have other priorities in my life." }, { "start": 256.02, "end": 258.06, "text": " I'm working full time." }, { "start": 258.06, "end": 260.14, "text": " This year we got married." }, { "start": 260.14, "end": 265.06, "text": " Donkey Kong has definitely taken a back seat to other things that I'm doing." }, { "start": 265.06, "end": 274.53999999999996, "text": " I really probably stand no chance to win, but it's all part of the, I think, greater" }, { "start": 274.53999999999996, "end": 280.21999999999997, "text": " good where we're not necessarily competing against each other and it's kind of like all" }, { "start": 280.22, "end": 293.98, "text": " of us versus the machine." }, { "start": 310.5, "end": 339.5, "text": " Hey love, how are you?" }, { "start": 339.5, "end": 342.34, "text": " I'm good." }, { "start": 342.34, "end": 347.9, "text": " Competition is about to start in like 15 minutes, so I'm going to turn my phone off and stuff." }, { "start": 347.9, "end": 353.22, "text": " Before the dead air silence, I just wanted to call and say hey and I love you and wish" }, { "start": 353.22, "end": 354.54, "text": " me luck again." }, { "start": 354.54, "end": 363.54, "text": " I'll let you know after the event has ended today how I did and how everyone else did," }, { "start": 363.54, "end": 364.54, "text": " okay?" }, { "start": 364.54, "end": 365.54, "text": " I love you too." }, { "start": 365.54, "end": 366.54, "text": " Bye honey." }, { "start": 366.54, "end": 369.54, "text": " Bye." }, { "start": 369.54, "end": 370.54, "text": " Welcome to the 2013 Kong Off." }, { "start": 370.54, "end": 373.94, "text": " I really want to thank all of you for going out of your way to making it out to Denver," }, { "start": 373.94, "end": 378.18, "text": " making the trip, making the financial commitment and making the commitment to just getting" }, { "start": 378.18, "end": 383.3, "text": " together again with what we all found last year to be a very uplifting experience." }, { "start": 383.3, "end": 389.94, "text": " So again, give yourselves a nice round of applause for being a part of this great event." }, { "start": 389.94, "end": 394.5, "text": " What really makes the Kong Off worthwhile and makes the whole thing worthwhile is bringing" }, { "start": 394.5, "end": 395.5, "text": " everybody together." }, { "start": 395.5, "end": 397.94, "text": " We're a crazy community." }, { "start": 397.94, "end": 402.1, "text": " Some of us are socially awkward, some of us are misfits, some of us, I don't know, all" }, { "start": 402.1, "end": 403.1, "text": " get along." }, { "start": 403.1, "end": 408.08, "text": " When the internet became available to everybody, suddenly people were able to exchange information" }, { "start": 408.08, "end": 413.58, "text": " and bond as friends, but not only bond as friends, but bond as Donkey Kong playing friends." }, { "start": 413.58, "end": 416.94, "text": " We all spend a lot of time interacting with one another through a chat room or a message" }, { "start": 416.94, "end": 420.92, "text": " board, but for the few that take the time to come to the Kong Off and meet one another" }, { "start": 420.92, "end": 425.4, "text": " and shake one another's hands, it's just, it puts this whole burst of energy back into" }, { "start": 425.4, "end": 427.94, "text": " this and it just, that's what makes it all worthwhile." }, { "start": 427.94, "end": 428.94, "text": " All right, everybody's out here." }, { "start": 428.94, "end": 431.14, "text": " All right, so you guys know the order that you're coming out in?" }, { "start": 431.14, "end": 433.82, "text": " You guys kind of know who you're next to?" }, { "start": 433.82, "end": 440.29999999999995, "text": " It'll definitely be the best Kong Off yet as far as the competition and the potential" }, { "start": 440.29999999999995, "end": 444.09999999999997, "text": " for someone to actually beat the world record live." }, { "start": 444.09999999999997, "end": 447.15999999999997, "text": " We've got all the best players playing right now." }, { "start": 447.15999999999997, "end": 450.34, "text": " We've got all of them shooting for top prize." }, { "start": 450.34, "end": 456.34, "text": " Mr. Mike Grossbeck!" }, { "start": 456.34, "end": 460.82, "text": " Mike is another one of the top 12 competitors in Donkey Kong." }, { "start": 460.82, "end": 466.41999999999996, "text": " He happens to live very close to me and through our mutual interest, we've kind of become" }, { "start": 466.41999999999996, "end": 467.41999999999996, "text": " friends." }, { "start": 467.41999999999996, "end": 468.41999999999996, "text": " Mr. Sean Board!" }, { "start": 468.41999999999996, "end": 469.41999999999996, "text": " Good luck, Sean." }, { "start": 469.42, "end": 498.78000000000003, "text": " It's like the nerves you kind of get before you go in for a job interview or something." }, { "start": 498.78, "end": 503.61999999999995, "text": " It's just like the little bit of butterflies." }, { "start": 503.61999999999995, "end": 512.62, "text": " All right, you ready?" }, { "start": 512.62, "end": 516.62, "text": " Go!" }, { "start": 516.62, "end": 525.06, "text": " When you're having that perfect game going, it feels very zen." }, { "start": 525.06, "end": 532.06, "text": " You smash something with a hammer and time stops for a moment and it just feels good." }, { "start": 532.06, "end": 537.06, "text": " Decent for my first game." }, { "start": 537.06, "end": 542.06, "text": " That was your first game?" }, { "start": 542.06, "end": 543.06, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 543.06, "end": 548.06, "text": " Nobody has a good first game." }, { "start": 548.06, "end": 551.06, "text": " All right." }, { "start": 551.06, "end": 558.06, "text": " I'll take a little break and try again." }, { "start": 558.06, "end": 561.54, "text": " Thank you, Billy." }, { "start": 561.54, "end": 567.26, "text": " First game, first quarter drop, got to 600,000 something, which is better than what I did" }, { "start": 567.26, "end": 568.26, "text": " all last year." }, { "start": 568.26, "end": 569.26, "text": " So I'm feeling pretty positive about that." }, { "start": 569.26, "end": 585.26, "text": " I mean, I think I'd just be happy if I put up a higher score than what I put up yesterday." }, { "start": 585.26, "end": 587.26, "text": " I'm not going to run boards though." }, { "start": 587.26, "end": 589.46, "text": " I don't want to do that." }, { "start": 589.46, "end": 592.54, "text": " You want to at least have a shot at placing in the top of the league." }, { "start": 592.54, "end": 599.4599999999999, "text": " Even a low kill screen would be cool in like a million ten or something." }, { "start": 599.4599999999999, "end": 603.4599999999999, "text": " Okay, everybody on your machines on your marks, whatever that means." }, { "start": 603.4599999999999, "end": 606.4599999999999, "text": " Get set and go!" }, { "start": 606.4599999999999, "end": 616.4599999999999, "text": " Call off three, day two is off and running." }, { "start": 616.46, "end": 628.34, "text": " So, it's day two of the Kong off." }, { "start": 628.34, "end": 634.7800000000001, "text": " I've basically been playing Donkey Kong like it's my job for the past two days." }, { "start": 634.7800000000001, "end": 638.0600000000001, "text": " First day I think I did nine or ten hours." }, { "start": 638.0600000000001, "end": 641.58, "text": " Never put up a million point score." }, { "start": 641.58, "end": 645.94, "text": " Today we have even less time." }, { "start": 645.94, "end": 651.1400000000001, "text": " There's like an hour and a half left until the final quarter drop, which means since" }, { "start": 651.1400000000001, "end": 657.46, "text": " a game takes like three hours to play, there's like one good game left." }, { "start": 657.46, "end": 662.7, "text": " This is your last chance to take the lead in the Kong off." }, { "start": 662.7, "end": 664.74, "text": " Last quarter." }, { "start": 664.74, "end": 668.3800000000001, "text": " Donkey Kong is different every time." }, { "start": 668.3800000000001, "end": 673.1, "text": " And although you can influence the game, you're not in complete control of it." }, { "start": 673.1, "end": 682.1, "text": " You have to rely more on the random aspects of the game playing out in your favor continuously" }, { "start": 682.1, "end": 701.46, "text": " for you to ever come close to the record." }, { "start": 701.46, "end": 706.22, "text": " Quarter drop and my game didn't go anywhere." }, { "start": 706.22, "end": 711.0600000000001, "text": " Got to like 200,000 with three men left." }, { "start": 711.0600000000001, "end": 722.4200000000001, "text": " But the pressure was too much and there's still people playing, but I'm out." }, { "start": 722.4200000000001, "end": 728.6600000000001, "text": " Of all the players, I think I detected that Sean Boyd was the humblest and the most also" }, { "start": 728.66, "end": 734.66, "text": " frank in his assessment of his plausibility of winning this contest." }, { "start": 734.66, "end": 740.2199999999999, "text": " He just wants to perform as well as he can and maybe break down boundaries and have new" }, { "start": 740.2199999999999, "end": 745.26, "text": " vistas of high score possibility, but doesn't necessarily come into this thinking he's going" }, { "start": 745.26, "end": 746.26, "text": " to be the winner." }, { "start": 746.26, "end": 753.22, "text": " I was imagining in my mind what I'd say if I won." }, { "start": 753.22, "end": 759.1, "text": " Walking along the lines of surprise." }, { "start": 759.1, "end": 774.1, "text": " Me too." }, { "start": 774.1, "end": 776.9, "text": " Like six screens from the kill screen." }, { "start": 776.9, "end": 778.22, "text": " He's got one man in reserve." }, { "start": 778.22, "end": 783.5, "text": " If he can cash in that man, it's probably worth like close to 10,000 points." }, { "start": 783.5, "end": 787.94, "text": " So it looks like he's about on like a million 24,000." }, { "start": 787.94, "end": 797.02, "text": " I won't put him in the prize rankings, but definitely illustrate, hey, I'm here to play." }, { "start": 797.02, "end": 802.62, "text": " The next best thing is seeing Mike succeed." }, { "start": 802.62, "end": 809.26, "text": " Nice job, Mike." }, { "start": 809.26, "end": 814.58, "text": " Nice, nice job." }, { "start": 814.58, "end": 818.54, "text": " Very impressed." }, { "start": 818.54, "end": 820.78, "text": " Very impressed." }, { "start": 820.78, "end": 825.82, "text": " He did get the kill screen and I think that's what he wanted." }, { "start": 825.82, "end": 831.3, "text": " He wanted a million points and he did it." }, { "start": 831.3, "end": 832.3, "text": " Congrats again, dude." }, { "start": 832.3, "end": 833.3, "text": " I'm so happy for you." }, { "start": 833.3, "end": 834.3, "text": " Thanks." }, { "start": 834.3, "end": 835.3, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 835.3, "end": 836.3, "text": " That's all you can hope for." }, { "start": 836.3, "end": 840.8199999999999, "text": " I mean, just got to play consistent and hope for good randomness, I guess." }, { "start": 840.8199999999999, "end": 844.3399999999999, "text": " Thank you guys, everybody for coming out and just making this such a great event." }, { "start": 844.3399999999999, "end": 848.9, "text": " If it wasn't for you guys showing up and giving it your heart and all you guys coming out" }, { "start": 848.9, "end": 854.9, "text": " and spectating, we wouldn't have such a great turnout and such a good time." }, { "start": 854.9, "end": 856.9, "text": " Hi." }, { "start": 856.9, "end": 862.2199999999999, "text": " How are you?" }, { "start": 862.22, "end": 866.02, "text": " The event is over." }, { "start": 866.02, "end": 868.34, "text": " I did not put up a score at all." }, { "start": 868.34, "end": 872.38, "text": " The guy who won last year, Jeff Wilms, did back-to-back victories." }, { "start": 872.38, "end": 874.26, "text": " He did it again." }, { "start": 874.26, "end": 877.82, "text": " He is hardcore awesome sauce." }, { "start": 877.82, "end": 878.82, "text": " It doesn't matter." }, { "start": 878.82, "end": 882.82, "text": " I come here and have fun and talk with the players." }, { "start": 882.82, "end": 885.14, "text": " It's a good time." }, { "start": 885.14, "end": 889.58, "text": " I guess the other thing to mention is that Mike did real good." }, { "start": 889.58, "end": 893.5, "text": " He was talking with me at breakfast this morning that he just wanted to put up a million points" }, { "start": 893.5, "end": 894.94, "text": " and that's what he did." }, { "start": 894.94, "end": 899.46, "text": " I caught the final moments on my camera." }, { "start": 899.46, "end": 900.46, "text": " That was pretty cool." }, { "start": 900.46, "end": 902.58, "text": " I'm really excited for him." }, { "start": 902.58, "end": 905.58, "text": " All right." }, { "start": 905.58, "end": 911.82, "text": " Well, yeah, I will be safe and then I will talk to you tomorrow." }, { "start": 911.82, "end": 914.94, "text": " I look forward to coming home and seeing you." }, { "start": 914.94, "end": 923.7, "text": " I played close to every night for close to two years now, always aiming for the record" }, { "start": 923.7, "end": 928.0200000000001, "text": " at the time and I've still not done it." }, { "start": 928.0200000000001, "end": 932.7, "text": " Is that a reflection of my skill as a player?" }, { "start": 932.7, "end": 934.2600000000001, "text": " Maybe." }, { "start": 934.2600000000001, "end": 942.86, "text": " Is it a reflection of how brutally mean the randomness of Donkey Kong is?" }, { "start": 942.86, "end": 945.02, "text": " Maybe." }, { "start": 945.02, "end": 973.14, "text": " Just that question that it's still possible, maybe, that keeps you playing." } ]

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187.98000000000002, "text": " That's where I wonder, will people want to put on such a strange, cyclops-y device and" }, { "start": 187.98000000000002, "end": 189.8, "text": " actually use it in public?" }, { "start": 189.8, "end": 193.88000000000002, "text": " There's no doubt that virtual retinal display is a viable, useful technology, but the Glyph" }, { "start": 193.88000000000002, "end": 195.08, "text": " might be a hard sell." }, { "start": 195.08, "end": 199.36, "text": " Oculus wants us to have insane, immersive experiences sitting at our desks and on our" }, { "start": 199.36, "end": 200.36, "text": " couch." }, { "start": 200.36, "end": 202.16000000000003, "text": " Avagant wants us to take them out into the world." }, { "start": 202.16, "end": 225.48, "text": " Who knows how that'll go." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 6.62, "text": " Greetings, mobile accomplishers. Welcome to the Verge Mobile Show. This is episode number" }, { "start": 6.62, "end": 12.16, "text": " 73. Does anybody care what episode number it is? It's 73, whatever. It's week of" }, { "start": 12.16, "end": 18.76, "text": " December 16th, 2013. I am a very laggy Deater Bone." }, { "start": 18.76, "end": 21.28, "text": " I am Vlad Sabo." }, { "start": 21.28, "end": 26.36, "text": " I'm Dan Seifert. My name is Chris Ziegler." }, { "start": 26.36, "end": 33.36, "text": " And this is most likely going to be our final mobile show of the year. And maybe ever, because" }, { "start": 33.96, "end": 40.96, "text": " whatever, that's not true. We will do it again at some point, someday. We feel like" }, { "start": 43.239999999999995, "end": 47.28, "text": " it. Maybe CES, it might be that long." }, { "start": 47.28, "end": 50.08, "text": " Maybe if all of us could get a couch like you do." }, { "start": 50.08, "end": 57.08, "text": " I want to say that it may be that long, but CES is literally two weeks away." }, { "start": 58.16, "end": 58.64, "text": " That's depressing." }, { "start": 58.64, "end": 61.44, "text": " It's got to be more than that." }, { "start": 61.44, "end": 64.36, "text": " Two and a half?" }, { "start": 64.36, "end": 67.08, "text": " We fly out in two and a half weeks, I think." }, { "start": 67.08, "end": 74.08, "text": " Guys, you realize that being like, dreading Vegas and dreading CES is a completely played" }, { "start": 75.08, "end": 79.8, "text": " out trope. Like getting excited about CES is the new hotness." }, { "start": 79.8, "end": 86.8, "text": " Look, Chris, just because it sucked, or just because people have said it sucked for years" }, { "start": 86.96, "end": 89.12, "text": " doesn't make it not suck." }, { "start": 89.12, "end": 96, "text": " No, actually we just had this conversation today here in London where all the happening" }, { "start": 96, "end": 102.28, "text": " things are happening. I was talking to Zen, our former intern in the UK, and this was" }, { "start": 102.28, "end": 108.12, "text": " a conversation we had. And the fact is, CES does actually kind of suck for those of us" }, { "start": 108.12, "end": 115.04, "text": " who are there because we eat a ton of really shitty food, and we don't sleep, and we crush" }, { "start": 115.04, "end": 119.44, "text": " into event venues and all of these things." }, { "start": 119.44, "end": 125.28, "text": " But on the other hand, CES is exciting for the audience. We just get nice clean announcements" }, { "start": 125.28, "end": 128.20000000000002, "text": " of new products and new fun bits." }, { "start": 128.20000000000002, "end": 130.20000000000002, "text": " So yeah, I mean, that's just what happens with it." }, { "start": 130.20000000000002, "end": 137.20000000000002, "text": " CES is amazing. Look, think of it as like, it's a week of like, just insanity, and everybody" }, { "start": 137.2, "end": 142.72, "text": " needs a week of insanity a year. And that is our week of insanity, and that's okay." }, { "start": 142.72, "end": 149.72, "text": " And it's the best kind of insanity because you're surrounded by robots that you're" }, { "start": 149.72, "end": 156.28, "text": " never going to see again in your entire life, and weird plastic things that will never appear" }, { "start": 156.28, "end": 162.56, "text": " in stores. So your only opportunity to play with these things is in the beautiful shining" }, { "start": 162.56, "end": 166.51999999999998, "text": " diamond in the desert, Las Vegas, Nevada." }, { "start": 166.52, "end": 167.96, "text": " I just don't see it." }, { "start": 167.96, "end": 171.06, "text": " Plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus," }, { "start": 171.06, "end": 172.32000000000002, "text": " plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus," }, { "start": 172.32000000000002, "end": 173.44, "text": " plus, plus, plus, plus. Carrot Top and Gallagher." }, { "start": 173.44, "end": 176.44, "text": " Carrot Top, who gets more ripped each and every year." }, { "start": 176.44, "end": 179.52, "text": " I'm just wondering, Dino, is that?" }, { "start": 179.52, "end": 185.3, "text": " Is Carrot Top going to be part of the WWE press conference that's happening at CES?" }, { "start": 185.3, "end": 185.76000000000002, "text": " I hope so." }, { "start": 185.76000000000002, "end": 189.96, "text": " I am signed up for that one. I will be there. I'll be covering it live." }, { "start": 189.96, "end": 193.72, "text": " You know, you're actually not the biggest WWE fan at The Verge." }, { "start": 193.72, "end": 197.44, "text": " You know that's true, Casey Newton is six foot 12." }, { "start": 197.44, "end": 201.6, "text": " We might be revealing his secret shame right now live on the air." }, { "start": 201.6, "end": 202.6, "text": " I don't know if he wants that." }, { "start": 202.6, "end": 208.12, "text": " We have, I mean I think Casey Newton holds down the West Coast side of things for the" }, { "start": 208.12, "end": 214.44, "text": " WWE representation but there are at least one, maybe even more very hardcore WWE fans" }, { "start": 214.44, "end": 216, "text": " in New York too." }, { "start": 216, "end": 221.2, "text": " Look, I've been to New York, I've met people in New York, I've seen everybody's" }, { "start": 221.2, "end": 228.11999999999998, "text": " desk in New York and none of them have a championship WWE replica belt on their desk." }, { "start": 228.11999999999998, "end": 233.76, "text": " No but Chris Welch does have a signed, yeah Chris Welch has to bring his belt to the Hogan" }, { "start": 233.76, "end": 236.2, "text": " poster on his desk." }, { "start": 236.2, "end": 243.95999999999998, "text": " So I would say that he is at least par with Casey on the WWE front." }, { "start": 243.95999999999998, "end": 249.14, "text": " So while talking about people that you've never met is totally fun, welcome to the Verge" }, { "start": 249.14, "end": 253.48, "text": " Mobile Show where we talk about CES and wrestling." }, { "start": 253.48, "end": 254.95999999999998, "text": " Wait, wait, wait, wait." }, { "start": 254.95999999999998, "end": 259.44, "text": " Oh man, come on, I was totally going to start talking about phones." }, { "start": 259.44, "end": 262.47999999999996, "text": " Wait, one hot second." }, { "start": 262.47999999999996, "end": 268.56, "text": " I just put up, I feel like this is relevant enough to our viewership and our listenership" }, { "start": 268.56, "end": 270.32, "text": " so that I should get this out there." }, { "start": 270.32, "end": 276.71999999999997, "text": " I'm pretty proud of it, I just put up this amazing life hack in our forums." }, { "start": 276.71999999999997, "end": 278.82, "text": " It is a life hack." }, { "start": 278.82, "end": 280.32, "text": " Don't blow up my spot." }, { "start": 280.32, "end": 282.28, "text": " Can you do it from a phone or a tablet?" }, { "start": 282.28, "end": 284.24, "text": " No you do it from your PC." }, { "start": 284.24, "end": 286.68, "text": " Well then why are we talking about it?" }, { "start": 286.68, "end": 289.56, "text": " Because people are ordering phones from Amazon." }, { "start": 289.56, "end": 290.56, "text": " Just hear me out." }, { "start": 290.56, "end": 292.4, "text": " So if you go to Amazon." }, { "start": 292.4, "end": 295.88, "text": " Our producer is with me by the way, Evan, he's shaking his head." }, { "start": 295.88, "end": 300.56, "text": " I don't care what Evan has to say on the subject of Amazon because the dude owns, his" }, { "start": 300.56, "end": 303.71999999999997, "text": " main phone is like a Cyanogen Mod G2 or something." }, { "start": 303.71999999999997, "end": 305.2, "text": " I don't know what it is at this point." }, { "start": 305.2, "end": 308.5, "text": " Look, so if you go to Amazon." }, { "start": 308.5, "end": 309.5, "text": " It's an HD2." }, { "start": 309.5, "end": 310.5, "text": " Yes, it's probably an HD2." }, { "start": 310.5, "end": 311.5, "text": " Running Sailfish." }, { "start": 311.5, "end": 320.68, "text": " So if you go to Amazon and this time of year they quite frequently prevent you from selecting" }, { "start": 320.68, "end": 324.64, "text": " overnight shipping or same day shipping and presumably that's just because they are" }, { "start": 324.64, "end": 328.28, "text": " slammed and they don't want people selecting those options." }, { "start": 328.28, "end": 333.76, "text": " But if you order something and then immediately go to your orders and then find your order" }, { "start": 333.76, "end": 338, "text": " in that list, there is a button next to it that says change shipping speed and if you" }, { "start": 338, "end": 341.6, "text": " click on that there you can change the shipping speed overnight or same day." }, { "start": 341.6, "end": 346.52, "text": " Which I've done successfully twice this week so I know it works." }, { "start": 346.52, "end": 347.52, "text": " That's great." }, { "start": 347.52, "end": 350.12, "text": " Now we can talk about hacking the Amazon." }, { "start": 350.12, "end": 357.04, "text": " Can you hack Moto Maker in the same way to actually get the bamboo Moto X?" }, { "start": 357.04, "end": 358.04, "text": " Transition." }, { "start": 358.04, "end": 359.04, "text": " What?" }, { "start": 359.04, "end": 360.04, "text": " What?" }, { "start": 360.04, "end": 361.04, "text": " Transition." }, { "start": 361.04, "end": 362.04, "text": " Transition." }, { "start": 362.04, "end": 367.08, "text": " Do not ever do that again." }, { "start": 367.08, "end": 373.35999999999996, "text": " For the audio listeners of the show, I just want to say you're welcome for not seeing" }, { "start": 373.35999999999996, "end": 377.56, "text": " what we just saw." }, { "start": 377.56, "end": 382.32, "text": " Chris Eagle just raged the roof over a transition." }, { "start": 382.32, "end": 383.32, "text": " It was not good luck." }, { "start": 383.32, "end": 384.32, "text": " No, it was a good transition." }, { "start": 384.32, "end": 385.32, "text": " I was just celebrating it." }, { "start": 385.32, "end": 386.32, "text": " No, it wasn't good." }, { "start": 386.32, "end": 387.32, "text": " It was glorious." }, { "start": 387.32, "end": 396.32, "text": " I just kind of want to say that I bought a Moto X with my own money a week ago and now" }, { "start": 396.32, "end": 399.2, "text": " you're going to buy another one." }, { "start": 399.2, "end": 400.4, "text": " And you're going to buy it again." }, { "start": 400.4, "end": 406.68, "text": " So the deal is it's just the bamboo and they haven't actually set a ship date for it yet," }, { "start": 406.68, "end": 407.68, "text": " correct?" }, { "start": 407.68, "end": 412, "text": " No, there are blog posts on it that says January delivery but it doesn't say specific." }, { "start": 412, "end": 417.03999999999996, "text": " I think I've heard if you order one it says January 6th is when it's expected to deliver." }, { "start": 417.03999999999996, "end": 421.24, "text": " What I want to know is why is it so hard for them to bring the engraving option back?" }, { "start": 421.24, "end": 422.84, "text": " The engraving option is back dude." }, { "start": 422.84, "end": 423.84, "text": " Oh is it?" }, { "start": 423.84, "end": 424.84, "text": " Can you engrave the wood?" }, { "start": 424.84, "end": 425.84, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 425.84, "end": 427.28, "text": " I haven't actually gone through the whole process." }, { "start": 427.28, "end": 430.91999999999996, "text": " You can engrave the wood yourself as well because it's wood." }, { "start": 430.91999999999996, "end": 432.64, "text": " You get one of those kits that you use and like…" }, { "start": 432.64, "end": 434.67999999999995, "text": " Oh the wood burning kit." }, { "start": 434.67999999999995, "end": 435.67999999999995, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 435.67999999999995, "end": 438.91999999999996, "text": " I totally burned the hell out of the wood." }, { "start": 438.91999999999996, "end": 443.55999999999995, "text": " Actually that would be a pretty killer like little cottage industry for these." }, { "start": 443.55999999999995, "end": 444.55999999999995, "text": " If these things become popular." }, { "start": 444.55999999999995, "end": 450.15999999999997, "text": " Like you know how Dieter got his orange iPhone 5 from a company that – or what is that" }, { "start": 450.15999999999997, "end": 452.44, "text": " other company that's been painting phones for years?" }, { "start": 452.44, "end": 457, "text": " Colourware has been painting phones in an anode style." }, { "start": 457, "end": 460.88, "text": " Right right right but like you know the same concept except you could get like you know" }, { "start": 460.88, "end": 465.28, "text": " something burned into the back of the wood." }, { "start": 465.28, "end": 466.28, "text": " That would be crazy." }, { "start": 466.28, "end": 467.72, "text": " It's $100 more." }, { "start": 467.72, "end": 469.92, "text": " That seems a little bit out of bounds to me." }, { "start": 469.92, "end": 470.92, "text": " Yeah it's expensive." }, { "start": 470.92, "end": 476.04, "text": " Where else are you going to get a wood phone bro?" }, { "start": 476.04, "end": 479.28, "text": " How much would you pay for a good wood case for say an iPhone?" }, { "start": 479.28, "end": 482.55999999999995, "text": " You'd probably pay like $70 to $100 right?" }, { "start": 482.55999999999995, "end": 485.88, "text": " I guess for a really good one." }, { "start": 485.88, "end": 490.14, "text": " Also can I just say that I'm pretty sure the reason that the engraving option was originally" }, { "start": 490.14, "end": 494.96, "text": " removed was because Josh successfully ordered a Moto X with the engraving powered by web" }, { "start": 494.96, "end": 497.4, "text": " OS." }, { "start": 497.4, "end": 500.96, "text": " To this day he has that phone." }, { "start": 500.96, "end": 501.96, "text": " Which is amazing." }, { "start": 501.96, "end": 504.34, "text": " Yeah I don't know what – there's nothing else to say." }, { "start": 504.34, "end": 506.23999999999995, "text": " You can get the Moto X in bamboo." }, { "start": 506.23999999999995, "end": 508.23999999999995, "text": " No there is something to say." }, { "start": 508.24, "end": 513.5600000000001, "text": " You can get the Moto X in bamboo in the United States." }, { "start": 513.5600000000001, "end": 517.12, "text": " The rest of the world is bummed about that." }, { "start": 517.12, "end": 519.76, "text": " Have fun with your Moto G. You can get the G all day long." }, { "start": 519.76, "end": 526, "text": " Well, you got that on us." }, { "start": 526, "end": 530.28, "text": " Well I think we can order the G now too." }, { "start": 530.28, "end": 533.6800000000001, "text": " I was just contemplating burdening you guys about the fact that you can't get Moto G" }, { "start": 533.68, "end": 538.9, "text": " deliveries in the States because every little gust of wind gets a name in the United States" }, { "start": 538.9, "end": 541.4, "text": " and things get shut down." }, { "start": 541.4, "end": 542.88, "text": " I guess I just did that anyway." }, { "start": 542.88, "end": 546.04, "text": " Yeah but Vlad you can get like the Galaxy Mega." }, { "start": 546.04, "end": 550.0799999999999, "text": " You can probably get like eight or ten different mid-range Galaxies." }, { "start": 550.0799999999999, "end": 551.0799999999999, "text": " You have that on us." }, { "start": 551.0799999999999, "end": 558.52, "text": " Before we move on to Sprint and T-Mobile, I want to point out I asked on Twitter what" }, { "start": 558.52, "end": 562, "text": " we should talk about on the show because there wasn't a ton of news." }, { "start": 562, "end": 564.8, "text": " And a bunch of suggestions and we might touch on some of them." }, { "start": 564.8, "end": 571.36, "text": " But the main thing I want to say is a core component of the show is us trolling each" }, { "start": 571.36, "end": 573.8, "text": " other and we got nothing on our listeners." }, { "start": 573.8, "end": 574.8, "text": " You guys are amazing." }, { "start": 574.8, "end": 575.8, "text": " No, no, no, no, no, no." }, { "start": 575.8, "end": 576.8, "text": " These are great." }, { "start": 576.8, "end": 580.44, "text": " No, a main component of the show is you guys all trolling me." }, { "start": 580.44, "end": 582.92, "text": " Not everybody trolling each other." }, { "start": 582.92, "end": 585.56, "text": " Stop making it sound like it's equal give and take around here." }, { "start": 585.56, "end": 586.56, "text": " It's not." }, { "start": 586.56, "end": 590.48, "text": " Some of these I can't tell if they are legit or not legit trolls." }, { "start": 590.48, "end": 594.48, "text": " We suggest we talk about the Dots holiday theme which I have feelings about." }, { "start": 594.48, "end": 595.48, "text": " It slows things down." }, { "start": 595.48, "end": 596.6, "text": " It's a little bit harder to see." }, { "start": 596.6, "end": 602.84, "text": " But the main thing is I no longer have the high score on the Dots move mode, the 30 moves" }, { "start": 602.84, "end": 603.84, "text": " mode." }, { "start": 603.84, "end": 604.84, "text": " I had the high score." }, { "start": 604.84, "end": 605.84, "text": " I beat Chris." }, { "start": 605.84, "end": 607.32, "text": " But now somebody else is higher than me." }, { "start": 607.32, "end": 608.5600000000001, "text": " I'm very unhappy about it." }, { "start": 608.5600000000001, "end": 610.12, "text": " Is it Sam Sheffer?" }, { "start": 610.12, "end": 612.16, "text": " No, it is Scott Kellum." }, { "start": 612.16, "end": 613.16, "text": " Oh." }, { "start": 613.16, "end": 614.16, "text": " So." }, { "start": 614.16, "end": 618.08, "text": " Anyway, so okay." }, { "start": 618.08, "end": 621.96, "text": " There's a rumor that Sprint is thinking about putting in a bid to buy T-Mobile." }, { "start": 621.96, "end": 623.96, "text": " Wait, I have some real news." }, { "start": 623.96, "end": 624.96, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 624.96, "end": 625.96, "text": " Some real actual news." }, { "start": 625.96, "end": 630.5600000000001, "text": " We have a merch mobile show where we don't allow a leader to ever move on to the next" }, { "start": 630.5600000000001, "end": 631.5600000000001, "text": " topic ever." }, { "start": 631.5600000000001, "end": 632.5600000000001, "text": " Well, come on." }, { "start": 632.5600000000001, "end": 638.2, "text": " Who even cares about the next topic?" }, { "start": 638.2, "end": 643.4000000000001, "text": " On the topic about Galaxy Magus and whatnot, there's a new Galaxy Advanced Hyper something" }, { "start": 643.4000000000001, "end": 646.76, "text": " whatever which is absolutely." }, { "start": 646.76, "end": 648.52, "text": " That sounds like a type of street fighter." }, { "start": 648.52, "end": 649.64, "text": " No, seriously." }, { "start": 649.64, "end": 653.84, "text": " It's a Samsung Galaxy Advanced and then some other noun that Samsung wants to attach." }, { "start": 653.84, "end": 656.68, "text": " Galaxy Advanced, the movie, the game." }, { "start": 656.68, "end": 657.68, "text": " Turbo." }, { "start": 657.68, "end": 658.68, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 658.68, "end": 659.68, "text": " Inspired by the book." }, { "start": 659.68, "end": 663.4, "text": " And it's a 4.7 inch WVGA display." }, { "start": 663.4, "end": 669.2, "text": " Completely forgettable apart from the fact that it has a side mounted voice recorder" }, { "start": 669.2, "end": 670.48, "text": " button." }, { "start": 670.48, "end": 675.18, "text": " So I just wanted to let our listeners know that this thing exists." }, { "start": 675.18, "end": 677.4, "text": " So now we can bury it and move on with it." }, { "start": 677.4, "end": 678.4, "text": " What's the pricing?" }, { "start": 678.4, "end": 681.2199999999999, "text": " No, I'm actually genuinely curious." }, { "start": 681.2199999999999, "end": 684.2399999999999, "text": " How does the pricing on that device compare to the Moto G?" }, { "start": 684.2399999999999, "end": 687.2399999999999, "text": " Which if I'm not mistaken, has a QHD display." }, { "start": 687.2399999999999, "end": 689.2399999999999, "text": " No, Moto G is 720p." }, { "start": 689.2399999999999, "end": 690.2399999999999, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 690.2399999999999, "end": 691.2399999999999, "text": " Oh, 720p." }, { "start": 691.2399999999999, "end": 692.2399999999999, "text": " Well, even better." }, { "start": 692.2399999999999, "end": 694.3199999999999, "text": " So yeah, what's the pricing on this?" }, { "start": 694.3199999999999, "end": 699.0999999999999, "text": " I would tell you the pricing if Samsung actually did comprehensive press releases which they" }, { "start": 699.0999999999999, "end": 704.4799999999999, "text": " absolutely do not believe it's against their religion." }, { "start": 704.48, "end": 709.36, "text": " So they give you a spec sheet for every single aspect of the phone but actual distribution" }, { "start": 709.36, "end": 712.24, "text": " markets and pricing is forbidden." }, { "start": 712.24, "end": 713.24, "text": " Weak." }, { "start": 713.24, "end": 720.66, "text": " I mean, the thing is, they actually pitched this phone as something for people who are" }, { "start": 720.66, "end": 726.24, "text": " not used to touch screens which is just completely not a nonsense to me because if I'm used" }, { "start": 726.24, "end": 731.8000000000001, "text": " to pressing buttons at the front of a device, a side mounted button is going to do absolutely" }, { "start": 731.8000000000001, "end": 733.16, "text": " nothing for me." }, { "start": 733.16, "end": 734.8399999999999, "text": " Even just for voice recording, right?" }, { "start": 734.8399999999999, "end": 739.48, "text": " Yeah, and we also have a camera button and a volume rocker or whatever." }, { "start": 739.48, "end": 744.1999999999999, "text": " Did you guys kick start that Android headphone jack button?" }, { "start": 744.1999999999999, "end": 745.1999999999999, "text": " What?" }, { "start": 745.1999999999999, "end": 746.1999999999999, "text": " Pressy." }, { "start": 746.1999999999999, "end": 747.1999999999999, "text": " It's called Pressy." }, { "start": 747.1999999999999, "end": 748.1999999999999, "text": " Pressy, yeah." }, { "start": 748.1999999999999, "end": 749.1999999999999, "text": " So it's a thing." }, { 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range issues that I've had with every other pair I've ever tried." }, { "start": 798.76, "end": 799.76, "text": " It sounds decent." }, { "start": 799.76, "end": 800.76, "text": " It's sweat proof." }, { "start": 800.76, "end": 806.9200000000001, "text": " Yeah, there's one scenario where I think Bluetooth headphones make sense and that's" }, { "start": 806.9200000000001, "end": 811.76, "text": " like when you're running at the gym or whatever, wherever you actually run and you don't" }, { "start": 811.76, "end": 813.1, "text": " want to wire tangling around." }, { "start": 813.1, "end": 817.44, "text": " My jam when I commuted on my bike was I used a Plantronics Voyager." }, { "start": 817.44, "end": 822.0400000000001, "text": " It had a huge battery life and it would only go in one ear but it would still play stereo" }, { "start": 822.0400000000001, "end": 826.2, "text": " so I could actually hear traffic and stuff around me and I could listen to music while" }, { "start": 826.2, 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so apparently SoftBank, so we've got foreign powers like trying to do stuff to" }, { "start": 853.6800000000001, "end": 857.0400000000001, "text": " the US wireless sensory SoftBank." }, { "start": 857.0400000000001, "end": 858.0400000000001, "text": " Who's their CEO?" }, { "start": 858.0400000000001, "end": 859.0400000000001, "text": " What's his name?" }, { "start": 859.0400000000001, "end": 860.0400000000001, "text": " Matsuyoshi-san." }, { "start": 860.0400000000001, "end": 865.6800000000001, "text": " Yeah, I was just about to call him something else entirely." }, { "start": 865.6800000000001, "end": 869.96, "text": " Apparently he, now that he's got Sprint, is interested in like increasing power and buying" }, { "start": 869.96, "end": 870.96, "text": " up T-Mobile." }, { "start": 870.96, "end": 876.64, "text": " Meanwhile, this is from a WSJ report, meanwhile we've known that Deutsche Telekom is really" }, { "start": 876.64, "end": 880.1600000000001, "text": " not that interested in hanging out in the US market so they might be interested in loading" }, { "start": 880.1600000000001, "end": 881.1600000000001, "text": " it." }, { "start": 881.1600000000001, "end": 889, "text": " So there's this speculation that Sprint is looking to buy out T-Mobile and man there's" }, { "start": 889, "end": 891.88, "text": " a lot of issues to talk about here." }, { "start": 891.88, "end": 893.24, "text": " I don't even know where to start." }, { "start": 893.24, "end": 902.16, "text": " I will start with, like competitively speaking, my feeling on it is at first it seems, oh" }, { "start": 902.16, "end": 908.08, "text": " yeah, a stronger third player would actually give competition to the other two but I really" }, { "start": 908.08, "end": 909.08, "text": " don't think that would happen." }, { "start": 909.08, "end": 912.72, "text": " I think that instead of having a duopoly, we'd have a triopoly and there'd be no pressure." }, { "start": 912.72, "end": 921.4, "text": " The reason I feel like that is I feel like T-Mobile has actually managed to change some" }, { "start": 921.4, "end": 926.84, "text": " things by acting like everybody's wild crazy uncle." }, { "start": 926.84, "end": 932.3199999999999, "text": " We've got AT&T at least giving a little bit of credit to the idea that you shouldn't" }, { "start": 932.3199999999999, "end": 935.76, "text": " pay your full subsidy price even after you paid your phone off." }, { "start": 935.76, "end": 942.36, "text": " We've got these jump and next plans and yes they're a hassle but the mobile plans seem" }, { "start": 942.36, "end": 947.52, "text": " to be shaken up a little bit and I feel like T-Mobile deserves at least some of the credit" }, { "start": 947.52, "end": 948.6, "text": " for it." }, { "start": 948.6, "end": 954.52, "text": " I don't have any kind of faith that a combined sprint and T-Mobile would have that same kind" }, { "start": 954.52, "end": 959.62, "text": " of wild crazy uncle John Legere impact." }, { "start": 959.62, "end": 963.4, "text": " Not to mention that a combined sprint and T-Mobile is still not as big as Verizon or" }, { "start": 963.4, "end": 964.4, "text": " AT&T." }, { "start": 964.4, "end": 965.4, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 965.4, "end": 966.4, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 966.4, "end": 972.76, "text": " But yeah, I think ultimately, so yes, Dieter, I totally agree with you." }, { "start": 972.76, "end": 977.88, "text": " I think that if you were looking at this merger two years ago, there's a good chance the" }, { "start": 977.88, "end": 982.52, "text": " regulators would have smiled warmly upon it or at least the idea of it but things have" }, { "start": 982.52, "end": 988.08, "text": " changed significantly since the AT&T deal fell through." }, { "start": 988.08, "end": 994.52, "text": " And believe it or not, I think one of the biggest nails in the coffin for this deal," }, { "start": 994.52, "end": 999.26, "text": " if it does come to fruition and Sprint tries to pull it off, one of the biggest sticking" }, { "start": 999.26, "end": 1004.88, "text": " points is going to be the fact that Sprint itself launched 1up in direct response to" }, { "start": 1004.88, "end": 1006.04, "text": " T-Mobile." }, { "start": 1006.04, "end": 1011.92, "text": " And Sprint is going to do, they will lay out the same arguments that AT&T laid out." }, { "start": 1011.92, "end": 1016.76, "text": " And you remember AT&T put out this long list of like, they published like a 100 page document" }, { "start": 1016.76, "end": 1023.28, "text": " or something of reasons why T-Mobile couldn't survive on its own and why it wasn't competitive" }, { "start": 1023.28, "end": 1028.22, "text": " in the marketplace and they didn't offer any good smartphones, blah, blah, blah." }, { "start": 1028.22, "end": 1038.04, "text": " And now you have this situation where Sprint was forced, not forced but they did respond" }, { "start": 1038.04, "end": 1040.3600000000001, "text": " to what T-Mobile was doing in the marketplace." }, { "start": 1040.3600000000001, "end": 1045.52, "text": " So Sprint tries to argue that T-Mobile alone is not competitive in the marketplace, they're" }, { "start": 1045.52, "end": 1048.44, "text": " going to have a very, very hard time making that argument." }, { "start": 1048.44, "end": 1049.44, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 1049.44, "end": 1055.88, "text": " Well and on top of that, you would think that Sprint would have enough work on its hands" }, { "start": 1055.88, "end": 1058.68, "text": " dealing with the spectrum issues that it has now." }, { "start": 1058.68, "end": 1062.74, "text": " Right, like they've got this whole thing, they've got this whole Spark plan, a three" }, { "start": 1062.74, "end": 1068.16, "text": " tiered system, they finally are like getting Nextel's band spectrum in there." }, { "start": 1068.16, "end": 1071.8600000000001, "text": " This huge mess that they've had with the different ways they're trying to cobble together" }, { "start": 1071.8600000000001, "end": 1076.96, "text": " a nationwide LTE network and like all the different equipment they've tried and yada," }, { "start": 1076.96, "end": 1078.8400000000001, "text": " yada, yada, yada." }, { "start": 1078.8400000000001, "end": 1084.88, "text": " I mean throwing T-Mobile's assets into the mix, I mean it puts them another like 4 or" }, { "start": 1084.88, "end": 1089.68, "text": " 5 years out from having a coherent network at best, doesn't it?" }, { "start": 1089.68, "end": 1090.68, "text": " In a way, yes." }, { "start": 1090.68, "end": 1097.2, "text": " I mean in my opinion, and Sasha Stegen at PC Magazine has written some good stuff on" }, { "start": 1097.2, "end": 1100.7600000000002, "text": " this the past couple of days too, but in my opinion the biggest challenge they face if" }, { "start": 1100.7600000000002, "end": 1105.8000000000002, "text": " they were to try to combine technically is the fact that they are running voice on two" }, { "start": 1105.8000000000002, "end": 1108.2800000000002, "text": " bands and two technologies." }, { "start": 1108.28, "end": 1116.76, "text": " They would be running voice on CDMA and they'd be running voice on GSM UMTS and I'm not" }, { "start": 1116.76, "end": 1122.12, "text": " so worried about them having, it sounds ridiculous even going back two or three years to just" }, { "start": 1122.12, "end": 1127.08, "text": " think about this, but nowadays the fact that they would have a combined total of four bands" }, { "start": 1127.08, "end": 1132.66, "text": " and four distinct network technologies from a handset perspective is actually not that" }, { "start": 1132.66, "end": 1133.66, "text": " big of a deal." }, { "start": 1133.66, "end": 1139, "text": " If you look at the Nexus 5, believe it or not, it supports literally every single one" }, { "start": 1139, "end": 1142.28, "text": " of that theoretical combined organizations, bands and technologies." }, { "start": 1142.28, "end": 1147.6000000000001, "text": " It even supports TDLTE, which is brand new." }, { "start": 1147.6000000000001, "end": 1151.5600000000002, "text": " I didn't realize this when I was writing my report on Friday, the commenter pointed" }, { "start": 1151.5600000000002, "end": 1155.52, "text": " it out, but if you look at Sprint's press release for the Nexus 5, they actually call" }, { "start": 1155.52, "end": 1159.4, "text": " out the Nexus 5 as being Sprint Spark compatible." }, { "start": 1159.4, "end": 1165, "text": " It's tri-band and of course, ClearWire is running TDLTE and 2.6." }, { "start": 1165, "end": 1167.88, "text": " So it's like, it's kind of insane actually." }, { "start": 1167.88, "end": 1169.48, "text": " Like it blew my mind when I read that." }, { "start": 1169.48, "end": 1173.5600000000002, "text": " Sprint has also released updated versions of other phones to be Spark compatible." }, { "start": 1173.5600000000002, "end": 1176.72, "text": " So like the Galaxy S4 has been updated to be Spark compatible." }, { "start": 1176.72, "end": 1181.7800000000002, "text": " If you bought an older Galaxy S4, tough noogies, but if you buy one I think, probably I think" }, { "start": 1181.7800000000002, "end": 1187.0400000000002, "text": " starting now or going forward it will be compatible with Spark and if it has all the Spark bands," }, { "start": 1187.04, "end": 1190.96, "text": " I haven't looked into it, but there's a good chance it will also support the necessary" }, { "start": 1190.96, "end": 1191.96, "text": " bands for T-Mobile." }, { "start": 1191.96, "end": 1198.08, "text": " You know, interestingly, Galaxy Noogies is the next version of their tablet and then" }, { "start": 1198.08, "end": 1203.52, "text": " there's Galaxy Tough Noogies, which is a ruggedized version." }, { "start": 1203.52, "end": 1207.72, "text": " You know, it's funny you should say that Dieter, because there was a rumor this week" }, { "start": 1207.72, "end": 1213.3999999999999, "text": " that Sprint would be announcing I think a total of four tablets between CES and MWC." }, { "start": 1213.3999999999999, "end": 1214.3999999999999, "text": " So..." }, { "start": 1214.3999999999999, "end": 1215.3999999999999, "text": " You mean Transprint, Chris?" }, { "start": 1215.3999999999999, "end": 1216.3999999999999, "text": " What did I say?" }, { "start": 1216.4, "end": 1217.4, "text": " Sprint." }, { "start": 1217.4, "end": 1218.4, "text": " Sprint." }, { "start": 1218.4, "end": 1219.4, "text": " Yeah, Samsung, excuse me." }, { "start": 1219.4, "end": 1224, "text": " Now when you say between, do you mean combined or in between those two events?" }, { "start": 1224, "end": 1225, "text": " Combined." }, { "start": 1225, "end": 1226, "text": " Combined." }, { "start": 1226, "end": 1227.68, "text": " Although with Samsung you never know." }, { "start": 1227.68, "end": 1232.3400000000001, "text": " But I suspect we're going to see some tablets and CES from them and we're going to see..." }, { "start": 1232.3400000000001, "end": 1237.2, "text": " If I remember correctly they announced the Galaxy Note 8 at MWC this year." }, { "start": 1237.2, "end": 1242.3200000000002, "text": " So I imagine that they will refresh that at MWC 2014." }, { "start": 1242.32, "end": 1247.46, "text": " I would just like to point this out in advance before Samsung reaches out to us to do like" }, { "start": 1247.46, "end": 1253.32, "text": " embargo briefings and whatever, I'm going to be busy at that time." }, { "start": 1253.32, "end": 1255.48, "text": " I just don't want any part of this." }, { "start": 1255.48, "end": 1259.8, "text": " Samsung refreshes its mediocre tablets that nobody in their right mind should be buying" }, { "start": 1259.8, "end": 1262.28, "text": " is a long story to me." }, { "start": 1262.28, "end": 1266.6399999999999, "text": " The Note 8 is actually legitimately interesting for a number of reasons." }, 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"end": 1294.6, "text": " Well here's the question then." }, { "start": 1294.6, "end": 1297.24, "text": " If somebody chooses to buy the Note 8 I can see why." }, { "start": 1297.24, "end": 1302.2, "text": " Fair enough but the question for me and it's actually an interesting one because I haven't" }, { "start": 1302.2, "end": 1306.68, "text": " spent that much time with the Note 8 because as I say I've been dodging Samsung's tablets." }, { "start": 1306.68, "end": 1310.26, "text": " Bad experiences I'm sorry to say." }, { "start": 1310.26, "end": 1317.2, "text": " You've got a Nexus 7 available now and you've got the Google Play edition of the G Pad 8.3" }, { "start": 1317.2, "end": 1322.86, "text": " which we just reviewed and as it turns out shockingly the Google Play edition is so much" }, { "start": 1322.86, "end": 1325.2, "text": " better than the LG skin version." }, { "start": 1325.2, "end": 1330.68, "text": " My question is if you have the Google Play edition G Pad 8.3 and the Nexus 7 does the" }, { "start": 1330.68, "end": 1332.64, "text": " Note 8 make sense?" }, { "start": 1332.64, "end": 1335.8400000000001, "text": " So it's funny because I talked with David about this quite a bit when we were discussing" }, { "start": 1335.8400000000001, "end": 1342.8400000000001, "text": " and working on this review and honestly the Note 8 is a compelling alternative to the" }, { "start": 1342.8400000000001, "end": 1343.8400000000001, "text": " G Pad 8.3." }, { "start": 1343.8400000000001, "end": 1348.4, "text": " The G Pad 8.3 is a very solid device in a vacuum and it's a really great tablet in a" }, { "start": 1348.4, "end": 1354.56, "text": " vacuum by itself but when you open up to what's available in that price range and from competitors" }, { "start": 1354.56, "end": 1358.12, "text": " it's a hard sell in my opinion." }, { "start": 1358.12, "end": 1363.9199999999998, "text": " Yeah I actually think the G Pad 8.3 either it's Google Play or it's LG skin edition" }, 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}, { "start": 1430.0400000000002, "end": 1434.8400000000001, "text": " No it's just like the white Nexus 5 the soft touch has got a slightly different feel to" }, { "start": 1434.8400000000001, "end": 1435.8400000000001, "text": " it." }, { "start": 1435.8400000000001, "end": 1438.6000000000001, "text": " It's like a harder plastic and I'm not a fan of it." }, { "start": 1438.6, "end": 1443.48, "text": " Well today I actually managed to finally get my hands on a black Nexus 5 and I get what" }, { "start": 1443.48, "end": 1444.48, "text": " you guys are getting at." }, { "start": 1444.48, "end": 1450.84, "text": " It's got a more rubbery texture on the back and in the hand it feels better." }, { "start": 1450.84, "end": 1456.1399999999999, "text": " But I'm still a fan of the white one particularly because it really goes nicely with my white" }, { "start": 1456.1399999999999, "end": 1457.1399999999999, "text": " pebble." }, { "start": 1457.1399999999999, "end": 1461.08, "text": " I mean those two things, I've said it before but those two things are just made for each" }, { "start": 1461.08, "end": 1462.84, "text": " other with the white and black contrast." }, { "start": 1462.84, "end": 1467.08, "text": " So I actually removed the stickers in the word, you can't see this in the camera." }, { "start": 1467.08, "end": 1471.12, "text": " I removed the stickers inside the word Nexus and the LG logo so it's no longer reflective" }, { "start": 1471.12, "end": 1476.72, "text": " black it's just straight dark matte death all the way across the back of the phone." }, { "start": 1476.72, "end": 1479.96, "text": " I'm pretty happy with it." }, { "start": 1479.96, "end": 1480.96, "text": " I would be." }, { "start": 1480.96, "end": 1485.04, "text": " It's a good looking phone." }, { "start": 1485.04, "end": 1490.96, "text": " I am this close to switching back to the iPhone right now because of the Twitter app." }, { "start": 1490.96, "end": 1495.12, "text": " Yeah the new Android Twitter app is ugh." }, { "start": 1495.12, "end": 1498.6399999999999, "text": " It broke a workflow that I had when I was checking things." }, { "start": 1498.6399999999999, "end": 1503.08, "text": " You know how you could swipe between mentions and Twitter feed?" }, { "start": 1503.08, "end": 1506.12, "text": " I used to do that all the time and now it's gone." }, { "start": 1506.12, "end": 1511.12, "text": " We ranted about this at length on the Vergecast so I don't necessarily want to recapitulate" }, { "start": 1511.12, "end": 1517.6399999999999, "text": " it other than to say that I still believe it is a dumpster fire of a redesign." }, { "start": 1517.6399999999999, "end": 1519.6799999999998, "text": " Everybody there should be ashamed." }, { "start": 1519.6799999999998, "end": 1524.2399999999998, "text": " If you just started a Twitter yesterday, you should be ashamed that you went to work for" }, { "start": 1524.24, "end": 1526.1200000000001, "text": " a company that produced this." }, { "start": 1526.1200000000001, "end": 1533.54, "text": " If you have been on the beta group where they've been testing this and you didn't go out and" }, { "start": 1533.54, "end": 1538.44, "text": " protest in front of Twitter with picket signs, you also should be ashamed." }, { "start": 1538.44, "end": 1542.36, "text": " I am mad at literally the entire planet over this app redesign." }, { "start": 1542.36, "end": 1544, "text": " I can't even handle it." }, { "start": 1544, "end": 1548.56, "text": " But what expectation do you seriously have buying an Android phone that the apps aren't" }, { "start": 1548.56, "end": 1553.96, "text": " going to be complete piles of garbage?" }, { "start": 1553.96, "end": 1554.96, "text": " They regressed." }, { "start": 1554.96, "end": 1559, "text": " It went from okay to terrible." }, { "start": 1559, "end": 1561.96, "text": " Yeah, it's bad." }, { "start": 1561.96, "end": 1567.72, "text": " What's killing me is that it's the same design concept used on iOS but it's executed so much" }, { "start": 1567.72, "end": 1568.72, "text": " better on iOS." }, { "start": 1568.72, "end": 1571.44, "text": " The aesthetics are the same and things like that." }, { "start": 1571.44, "end": 1576.32, "text": " The reason it's executed better on iOS is one, they have this crazy idea in their head" }, { "start": 1576.32, "end": 1581.94, "text": " that they need to put their UI elements at the top which is stop trying to follow Hollow" }, { "start": 1581.94, "end": 1583.6000000000001, "text": " but still screwing it up." }, { "start": 1583.6, "end": 1590.9599999999998, "text": " Two, the reason it works on iOS is you can do this swiping between what is it, timeline," }, { "start": 1590.9599999999998, "end": 1597.8, "text": " discover and activity but on iOS, nobody cares about discover or activity." }, { "start": 1597.8, "end": 1599.36, "text": " Or on Android." }, { "start": 1599.36, "end": 1602.24, "text": " Right, but there's just three little dots." }, { "start": 1602.24, "end": 1606.3999999999999, "text": " On iOS, you've got this giant tab bar like they actually matter but they don't or on" }, { "start": 1606.3999999999999, "end": 1608.7199999999998, "text": " Android." }, { "start": 1608.72, "end": 1616.08, "text": " But the worst part of it is, and I wasn't going to do this, but you can't in the tabs" }, { "start": 1616.08, "end": 1620.2, "text": " in home discover activity, you can tap the top of the tab to scroll to the top but when" }, { "start": 1620.2, "end": 1623.4, "text": " you go into your notifications, you can't do that because when you try and tap the top," }, { "start": 1623.4, "end": 1624.4, "text": " it takes you back." }, { "start": 1624.4, "end": 1628.88, "text": " So you just have to sit there and scroll and scroll and scroll and scroll." }, { "start": 1628.88, "end": 1631.28, "text": " Okay, yeah." }, { "start": 1631.28, "end": 1636.48, "text": " But I need to pull us back from the brink here because one thing our commenters have" }, { "start": 1636.48, "end": 1642.48, "text": " been noticing is that we've been actually spending about 90% of our time complaining" }, { "start": 1642.48, "end": 1643.48, "text": " about things." }, { "start": 1643.48, "end": 1644.48, "text": " Yeah, that's fair." }, { "start": 1644.48, "end": 1645.48, "text": " We should be happy about something." }, { "start": 1645.48, "end": 1646.48, "text": " What are we happy about?" }, { "start": 1646.48, "end": 1647.48, "text": " Yes, yes." }, { "start": 1647.48, "end": 1648.48, "text": " I mean, listen, I want to say…" }, { "start": 1648.48, "end": 1654, "text": " I'm happy that the wood Moto X is now available or soon to be available." }, { "start": 1654, "end": 1658.04, "text": " However you want to express that." }, { "start": 1658.04, "end": 1659.04, "text": " Like yeah." }, { "start": 1659.04, "end": 1666.44, "text": " It's so hard for us to be happy about things we don't know what to do." }, { "start": 1666.44, "end": 1671.52, "text": " You know, I need to do some pushups to get some positivity back in me." }, { "start": 1671.52, "end": 1673.92, "text": " So I'm just going to do imaginary ones." }, { "start": 1673.92, "end": 1679.16, "text": " But listen, seriously, the old Twitter rep on Android wasn't just decent or half decent." }, { "start": 1679.16, "end": 1681.1200000000001, "text": " I was very happy with it." }, { "start": 1681.1200000000001, "end": 1682.1200000000001, "text": " The new one is a downgrade." }, { "start": 1682.1200000000001, "end": 1686.24, "text": " But you know, what I was going to say and something I was going to tweet was I would" }, { "start": 1686.24, "end": 1691, "text": " complain about this Twitter redesign but then I have to face it, I'm going to be using" }, { "start": 1691, "end": 1692, "text": " it anyway." }, { "start": 1692, "end": 1694.72, "text": " So I might as well just deal with the fact that it kind of sucks." }, { "start": 1694.72, "end": 1698.76, "text": " And ultimately, I'm going to get used to it, then they're going to tweak it again" }, { "start": 1698.76, "end": 1701.1200000000001, "text": " and then figure out the right path, etc." }, { "start": 1701.1200000000001, "end": 1705.76, "text": " So somebody on Twitter recommended Tweedle to me and it's really good." }, { "start": 1705.76, "end": 1710.04, "text": " In fact, it would be my only Twitter app in a heartbeat because it's so good." }, { "start": 1710.04, "end": 1714.92, "text": " Except that Twitter doesn't make it easy for Twitter specific features like notification" }, { "start": 1714.92, "end": 1721, "text": " alerts from specific users and seeing your full activity or your full notifications timeline" }, { "start": 1721, "end": 1724.04, "text": " including like retweets and faves to third party cloud clients." }, { "start": 1724.04, "end": 1731.04, "text": " Right, the connect timeline isn't an open API for developers." }, { "start": 1731.04, "end": 1735.48, "text": " So what I'm doing is I'm using Twitter for incoming alerts and then I'm using Tweedle" }, { "start": 1735.48, "end": 1737.3999999999999, "text": " for like all of my reading." }, { "start": 1737.3999999999999, "end": 1738.3999999999999, "text": " And it works." }, { "start": 1738.3999999999999, "end": 1740.72, "text": " Tweedle doesn't refresh in the background though." }, { "start": 1740.72, "end": 1743.8, "text": " There's like no option to have it refresh every hour which is one thing that I wish" }, { "start": 1743.8, "end": 1744.8, "text": " it had." }, { "start": 1744.8, "end": 1746.8, "text": " I mean I think the option is there, it just doesn't work." }, { "start": 1746.8, "end": 1748.8, "text": " Well it doesn't." }, { "start": 1748.8, "end": 1752.8799999999999, "text": " Either way, you have to pull the refresh every time you open it." }, { "start": 1752.88, "end": 1757.44, "text": " Okay so Twitter is kind of sort of a little bit evil." }, { "start": 1757.44, "end": 1761.5600000000002, "text": " But I have to take issue with Chris' point saying how are you going to pick up an Android" }, { "start": 1761.5600000000002, "end": 1763.3600000000001, "text": " phone and expect the apps not to suck." }, { "start": 1763.3600000000001, "end": 1765.5600000000002, "text": " I mean that's not fair anymore." }, { "start": 1765.5600000000002, "end": 1766.5600000000002, "text": " It is." }, { "start": 1766.5600000000002, "end": 1767.5600000000002, "text": " It is absolutely fair." }, { "start": 1767.5600000000002, "end": 1772.2, "text": " It's fair for third party apps that also have iOS components." }, { "start": 1772.2, "end": 1777.8000000000002, "text": " I can't think of a single one that the iOS app is an inferior version unless it's like" }, { "start": 1777.8000000000002, "end": 1781.44, "text": " Google's own apps that they make sure they're better on it." }, { "start": 1781.44, "end": 1788.0800000000002, "text": " I mean I would say that, well I mean I'm going to, I don't know." }, { "start": 1788.0800000000002, "end": 1792.92, "text": " There are a few apps like AnyDo stuff I think works a little bit better on Android." }, { "start": 1792.92, "end": 1795.1200000000001, "text": " AnyDo started on Android if I'm not mistaken." }, { "start": 1795.1200000000001, "end": 1797.56, "text": " That's right." }, { "start": 1797.56, "end": 1802.8400000000001, "text": " And for whatever reason I feel like Pocket Cast is better on Android but that's, I don't" }, { "start": 1802.8400000000001, "end": 1806.8600000000001, "text": " know why I feel that fully but I do." }, { "start": 1806.8600000000001, "end": 1808.24, "text": " There's a couple others." }, { "start": 1808.24, "end": 1810.16, "text": " But there's definitely examples where it's worse." }, { "start": 1810.16, "end": 1814.2, "text": " There's a lot more examples of where it's worse than there are where it's better." }, { "start": 1814.2, "end": 1815.88, "text": " That's totally fair." }, { "start": 1815.88, "end": 1820.28, "text": " But it's like it is night and day from what it was even like a year ago." }, { "start": 1820.28, "end": 1825.1200000000001, "text": " A year ago it was like god they're terrible but now things are starting to catch up a" }, { "start": 1825.1200000000001, "end": 1826.1200000000001, "text": " little bit." }, { "start": 1826.1200000000001, "end": 1827.1200000000001, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1827.1200000000001, "end": 1833.28, "text": " Can we do like a two minute embargo where we use no negative adjectives and just see" }, { "start": 1833.28, "end": 1835.68, "text": " if we have anything to say?" }, { "start": 1835.68, "end": 1837.8400000000001, "text": " I'm going to double down on that challenge." }, { "start": 1837.8400000000001, "end": 1838.8400000000001, "text": " You ready?" }, { "start": 1838.84, "end": 1841.1999999999998, "text": " Let's talk about Windows Phone." }, { "start": 1841.1999999999998, "end": 1844.24, "text": " Let's talk about Windows Phone." }, { "start": 1844.24, "end": 1850.76, "text": " No look I'm always, I tweeted about this yesterday, I'm always super bullish with" }, { "start": 1850.76, "end": 1855.34, "text": " every single Windows Phone update that's been announced I'm always super bullish." }, { "start": 1855.34, "end": 1863.6399999999999, "text": " This is the version that is going to not only save Windows Phone but reignite my passion" }, { "start": 1863.6399999999999, "end": 1864.6399999999999, "text": " for Windows Phone." }, { "start": 1864.64, "end": 1869.24, "text": " And 8.1 is no exception." }, { "start": 1869.24, "end": 1870.24, "text": " It doesn't need saving." }, { "start": 1870.24, "end": 1875.8000000000002, "text": " It's not like wildly popular but it's not falling out." }, { "start": 1875.8000000000002, "end": 1879.5600000000002, "text": " So we're expecting in 8.1 that there's going to be a proper notification center and" }, { "start": 1879.5600000000002, "end": 1884.0800000000002, "text": " there's going to be a Siri competitor which Microsoft has smartly called Cortana which" }, { "start": 1884.0800000000002, "end": 1887.0800000000002, "text": " I think is really clever." }, { "start": 1887.0800000000002, "end": 1888.0800000000002, "text": " That's the right thing to do." }, { "start": 1888.0800000000002, "end": 1891.88, "text": " That can't possibly be the actual shipping name." }, { "start": 1891.88, "end": 1892.88, "text": " They got to do it." }, { "start": 1892.88, "end": 1893.88, "text": " That would be so awesome." }, { "start": 1893.88, "end": 1896.24, "text": " Yeah it's not going to happen." }, { "start": 1896.24, "end": 1905.7600000000002, "text": " They're going to call it like Windows Phone 8.1 voice live actions." }, { "start": 1905.7600000000002, "end": 1910.3600000000001, "text": " I hope it's not the same engineering group that is working on making the Xbox One turn" }, { 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1940.8799999999999, "text": " This is a problem for me." }, { "start": 1940.8799999999999, "end": 1947.28, "text": " Look I'm just saying I have to scream Xbox on at my TV like 10 times now before it will" }, { "start": 1947.28, "end": 1948.28, "text": " turn on." }, { "start": 1948.28, "end": 1950.08, "text": " Wait you have to just like hit a button." }, { "start": 1950.08, "end": 1953.08, "text": " How often?" }, { "start": 1953.08, "end": 1958, "text": " I just picture Chris in his living room getting really red in the face and like starting to" }, { "start": 1958, "end": 1962.32, "text": " bulge out as he's screaming Xbox on instead of just hitting the controller that's in" }, { "start": 1962.32, "end": 1963.32, "text": " his hand." }, { "start": 1963.32, "end": 1965.6399999999999, "text": " Well that's kind of what it boils down to." }, { "start": 1965.6399999999999, "end": 1967.32, "text": " That's not far off." }, { "start": 1967.32, "end": 1970.52, "text": " And I'm usually not wearing pants when that happens." }, { "start": 1970.52, "end": 1973.12, "text": " But anyway back to Windows Phone." }, { "start": 1973.12, "end": 1977.08, "text": " I do think that this closes a really important feature gap." }, { "start": 1977.08, "end": 1979.56, "text": " You know which is the same thing we say with every version of Windows Phone." }, { "start": 1979.56, "end": 1985.1599999999999, "text": " I don't know if they're – I don't even know what – to get to what you were saying" }, { "start": 1985.1599999999999, "end": 1989.84, "text": " Dieter, I don't even know what Windows Phone's problems are per se at this point." }, { "start": 1989.84, "end": 1994.04, "text": " We've heard some talk from Microsoft that they feel that 10% market share is a golden" }, { "start": 1994.04, "end": 1997.82, "text": " number for them globally." }, { "start": 1997.82, "end": 2003.52, "text": " But I don't know if people – I don't know if like the plebs with their smart phones" }, { 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customization, all of these tiles going on on the home screen" }, { "start": 2288.48, "end": 2291.9, "text": " actually too busy." }, { "start": 2291.9, "end": 2296.56, "text": " But if you want, I mean you can just make all of your home screen tiles the biggest" }, { "start": 2296.56, "end": 2299.88, "text": " size and then it looks like Windows found 7, right?" }, { "start": 2299.88, "end": 2300.88, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2300.88, "end": 2305.08, "text": " Well on the 1520 the biggest size is only two columns so you still have like a third" }, { "start": 2305.08, "end": 2306.2, "text": " column to deal with." }, { "start": 2306.2, "end": 2308.7999999999997, "text": " I mean I guess you can make them large and medium." }, { "start": 2308.7999999999997, "end": 2309.7999999999997, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 2309.7999999999997, "end": 2317.08, "text": " I mean that was just my immediate impression of looking at it with all those tiles." }, { "start": 2317.08, "end": 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hunting around on your home screen." }, { "start": 2349.08, "end": 2353.34, "text": " You could just have the tiles that you want there and then like if some of them animate" }, { "start": 2353.34, "end": 2358.48, "text": " in a way that you like then they're not there as like giving you essential information," }, { "start": 2358.48, "end": 2361.88, "text": " it's just sort of a nice ambient effect which is how I think it ought to be." }, { "start": 2361.88, "end": 2363.6400000000003, "text": " I think that would be great." }, { "start": 2363.64, "end": 2365.56, "text": " Yeah, totally." }, { "start": 2365.56, "end": 2366.56, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 2366.56, "end": 2373.2, "text": " And another X factor for Microsoft which really hasn't paid dividends in the way that I" }, { "start": 2373.2, "end": 2378.8399999999997, "text": " kind of thought it might is that Nokia is still making arguably the most attractive" }, { "start": 2378.8399999999997, "end": 2383.2799999999997, "text": " and best feeling smartphone hardware in the industry today." }, { "start": 2383.2799999999997, "end": 2387.96, "text": " I mean they're certainly doing things with plastic that no one would have considered" }, { "start": 2387.96, "end": 2391.3199999999997, "text": " possible three or four years ago." }, { "start": 2391.32, "end": 2395.42, "text": " So you know, it's the same story each and every time." }, { "start": 2395.42, "end": 2401.8, "text": " Like I will without question try very hard to make a Windows phone 8.1 device my primary" }, { "start": 2401.8, "end": 2410.96, "text": " phone and we'll see if I can finally get past the pain of the lack of apps and software" }, { "start": 2410.96, "end": 2411.96, "text": " weirdness." }, { "start": 2411.96, "end": 2414.04, "text": " Maybe this is the time when everything is coming together for them." }, { "start": 2414.04, "end": 2419.44, "text": " You know they have Instagram out now, they have Vine, the all important Vine." }, { "start": 2419.44, "end": 2426.6, "text": " It's funny how much of that pain is caused by Google not cooperating with Microsoft." }, { "start": 2426.6, "end": 2434.76, "text": " Because like you know at least for our work emails all based on Gmail and you know, I" }, { "start": 2434.76, "end": 2438.92, "text": " don't know anyone other than Tom that doesn't use Gmail for their personal email." }, { "start": 2438.92, "end": 2444.52, "text": " And that kind of just really sucks with Windows phones still and Microsoft can try and try" }, { "start": 2444.52, "end": 2449.16, "text": " and try but if Google doesn't offer the access or offer the keys or whatever it needs to" }, { "start": 2449.16, "end": 2452.72, "text": " make it work well it's not going to be an easy thing for them." }, { "start": 2452.72, "end": 2458.6, "text": " There are some actual third party Gmail apps in the Windows phone store now that give you" }, { "start": 2458.6, "end": 2463, "text": " label support and starring and archiving and all the full Gmail compliments that you might" }, { "start": 2463, "end": 2464, "text": " expect." }, { "start": 2464, "end": 2467.6, "text": " But they're third party and not everyone is comfortable with a third party app and stuff" }, { "start": 2467.6, "end": 2468.6, "text": " like that." }, { "start": 2468.6, "end": 2472.52, "text": " Yeah, my concern with that is that you know one of the things that has always been a problem" }, { "start": 2472.52, "end": 2478.04, "text": " for the Windows phone app store is that you have all these developers that you've never" }, { "start": 2478.04, "end": 2483.36, "text": " heard of and some of the apps sound cool or intriguing but you don't know if they've" }, { "start": 2483.36, "end": 2490.52, "text": " been vetted and you know the question becomes are you comfortable storing your Gmail authentication" }, { "start": 2490.52, "end": 2495, "text": " you know in some developers cloud that you've never heard of for two reasons." }, { "start": 2495, "end": 2499.04, "text": " One there's the security concern but then also there's the concern that this guy could" }, { "start": 2499.04, "end": 2504.44, "text": " disappear at any moment and just you know take all your email with him." }, { "start": 2504.44, "end": 2508.38, "text": " So well not take all your email with him but like take the app with him." }, { "start": 2508.38, "end": 2519.32, "text": " So yeah, the Google challenge is a very, very real one for Microsoft." }, { "start": 2519.32, "end": 2523.32, "text": " So part of speaking, I don't know I forget it, there was going to be a transition here" }, { "start": 2523.32, "end": 2525.6, "text": " it was going to be great and I lost it." }, { "start": 2525.6, "end": 2529.12, "text": " Android is free and apparently Windows is thinking about giving away Windows phone and" }, { "start": 2529.12, "end": 2538.12, "text": " Windows RT away for free to manufacturers which like honestly fine." }, { "start": 2538.12, "end": 2541.96, "text": " Like I don't think it's going to like radically change things for them." }, { "start": 2541.96, "end": 2548.3399999999997, "text": " I don't think that the cost of the licensing cost for Windows phone was the primary reason" }, { "start": 2548.3399999999997, "end": 2549.3399999999997, "text": " people were going to buy it." }, { "start": 2549.3399999999997, "end": 2551.88, "text": " I think it was important." }, { "start": 2551.88, "end": 2555.68, "text": " I think we may have underestimated it because…" }, { "start": 2555.68, "end": 2557.52, "text": " Really I mean…" }, { "start": 2557.52, "end": 2560.64, "text": " One phone manufacturer discussed that with me and they were saying they could never match" }, { "start": 2560.64, "end": 2566.56, "text": " Android's off contract pricing with Windows phone because of the licensing costs." }, { "start": 2566.56, "end": 2572.7599999999998, "text": " The royalties that are paid to Microsoft and every Android phone that is sold nearly, I" }, { "start": 2572.7599999999998, "end": 2579.02, "text": " mean Microsoft has never publicized the licensing terms but it's believed that it's about" }, { "start": 2579.02, "end": 2585.56, "text": " a wash between Windows phone and Android by the time you pay all the royalties." }, { "start": 2585.56, "end": 2591.68, "text": " Right, but what Microsoft wants is not Android, it wants its own OS and its own platform in" }, { "start": 2591.68, "end": 2593.36, "text": " as many hands as possible." }, { "start": 2593.36, "end": 2600, "text": " This is the thing, I mean Google was the first company that said we're going to invest" }, { "start": 2600, "end": 2605.08, "text": " this money in developing this OS etc. etc. but then our focus is not going to be making" }, { "start": 2605.08, "end": 2609.68, "text": " money out of it, it's getting people to use the device so we can distribute the stuff" }, { "start": 2609.68, "end": 2616.16, "text": " that does make us money which is our browser, our ads, our email client, maps, YouTube etc." }, { "start": 2616.16, "end": 2619.52, "text": " etc. etc. and now Google is in that leading position." }, { "start": 2619.52, "end": 2623.48, "text": " Apple realized the same thing and made a whole bunch of its software free recently and now" }, { "start": 2623.48, "end": 2626.64, "text": " Microsoft is coming around to the same point of view." }, { "start": 2626.64, "end": 2631.72, "text": " I mean we've talked about this, it's a battle of platforms nowadays and the reason" }, { "start": 2631.72, "end": 2636.94, "text": " I mean I tweeted about this this morning and everybody was like you're crazy Vlad which" }, { "start": 2636.94, "end": 2639.56, "text": " is fair enough, I probably am." }, { "start": 2639.56, "end": 2645.32, "text": " I asked why is Microsoft trying to get YouTube or Windows phone instead of building its own" }, { "start": 2645.32, "end": 2649.04, "text": " video service and first of all people raised the point that Microsoft already tried and" }, { "start": 2649.04, "end": 2654.32, "text": " failed but the major point that everybody raises and I can't argue with it is that" }, { "start": 2654.32, "end": 2659.7200000000003, "text": " YouTube just has such a vast advantage over everybody in terms of popularity, awareness" }, { "start": 2659.7200000000003, "end": 2665.2400000000002, "text": " and content already on it that it just can't catch up and Apple tried to do it with maps" }, { "start": 2665.24, "end": 2669.3999999999996, "text": " and it's still trying to do it, it takes years to catch up with these things." }, { "start": 2669.3999999999996, "end": 2676.52, "text": " So Google has that advantage so if Microsoft starts losing money by selling Windows phones" }, { "start": 2676.52, "end": 2682, "text": " relative to like if an Android sales turns into a Windows phone sale and that actually" }, { "start": 2682, "end": 2686, "text": " ends up losing 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" Well it's in the process of doing so and it's going to be Microsoft's own hardware." }, { "start": 2770.52, "end": 2776.12, "text": " Microsoft's already screwed everybody with its Windows RT tablet which is why within" }, { "start": 2776.12, "end": 2780.2, "text": " a year the Surface was the only Windows RT tablet on the market because everybody couldn't" }, { "start": 2780.2, "end": 2783.6, "text": " compete with the aggressive pricing and design." }, { "start": 2783.6, "end": 2789.7599999999998, "text": " So you have a track record which tells you if you start building Windows phones, Microsoft" }, { "start": 2789.7599999999998, "end": 2792.64, "text": " itself is going to be competing with you really aggressively." }, { "start": 2792.64, "end": 2798.2799999999997, "text": " So perhaps the only guys who might be interested in this are guys like ZTE and Huawei who might" }, { "start": 2798.2799999999997, "end": 2803.64, "text": " be doing the really entry level devices and devices 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anything else around Windows phone on the market." }, { "start": 2838.12, "end": 2842.02, "text": " It was easily competitive with the stuff that Nokia was putting out at that time." }, { "start": 2842.02, "end": 2848.02, "text": " It was the signature device, lots of colors so there was lots of like brand synergies" }, { "start": 2848.02, "end": 2851.08, "text": " with what Microsoft was trying to do for branding Windows phone." }, { "start": 2851.08, "end": 2855.52, "text": " They were working together and I mean you know it didn't flop but it sure didn't" }, { "start": 2855.52, "end": 2861.2400000000002, "text": " do that good and like if that kind of phone that looks good, that feels good, that performs" }, { "start": 2861.24, "end": 2866.12, "text": " well and that has got like perfectly aligned like marketing strategies from both Microsoft" }, { "start": 2866.12, "end": 2872.74, "text": " and the manufacturer, if that phone can't like make a dent and certainly didn't help" }, { "start": 2872.74, "end": 2878.4799999999996, "text": " HTC and didn't do anything for Windows phone, like why would anybody take a flyer on Windows" }, { "start": 2878.4799999999996, "end": 2881.64, "text": " phone right now especially now that they've bought Nokia?" }, { "start": 2881.64, "end": 2889.7599999999998, "text": " So it's like they're in a really tough spot to drive the platform anywhere in the" }, { "start": 2889.76, "end": 2891.76, "text": " high end except with their own stuff." }, { "start": 2891.76, "end": 2896.8, "text": " They might get lucky on the low end and get like you said ZTE or Huawei or whoever to" }, { "start": 2896.8, "end": 2904.2400000000002, "text": " buy in but even then like are those companies going to believe that they can do better than" }, { "start": 2904.2400000000002, "end": 2908.28, "text": " what Nokia is doing like with the 510, the 520, their low end stuff is really, really" }, { "start": 2908.28, "end": 2909.5400000000004, "text": " good right?" }, { "start": 2909.5400000000004, "end": 2915.8, "text": " Not to mention Nokia's Android phone which oh, we haven't talked about here because" }, { "start": 2915.8, "end": 2918.6800000000003, "text": " it was happening during the last mobile show." }, { "start": 2918.68, "end": 2923.44, "text": " Chris, can we celebrate this transition please?" }, { "start": 2923.44, "end": 2928.56, "text": " I already raised the roof, the roof can only be raised once per show, I'm sorry." }, { "start": 2928.56, "end": 2931.52, "text": " Wow, it's called the threshold right?" }, { "start": 2931.52, "end": 2932.52, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 2932.52, "end": 2934.64, "text": " I need a replay." }, { "start": 2934.64, "end": 2940.2799999999997, "text": " Maybe you should do, what is the other dances, what is this one?" }, { "start": 2940.2799999999997, "end": 2944.44, "text": " Transition, transition, transition." }, { "start": 2944.44, "end": 2946.12, "text": " I don't know what that was." }, { "start": 2946.12, "end": 2948.88, "text": " Deter left." }, { "start": 2948.88, "end": 2952.7999999999997, "text": " I think that was the third part." }, { "start": 2952.7999999999997, "end": 2955.8399999999997, "text": " Deter literally left, he's just gone." }, { "start": 2955.8399999999997, "end": 2961.64, "text": " You forgot to drop the mic though." }, { "start": 2961.64, "end": 2963.12, "text": " What were we transitioning to?" }, { "start": 2963.12, "end": 2964.7599999999998, "text": " I've totally lost it now." }, { "start": 2964.7599999999998, "end": 2965.7599999999998, "text": " I was looking at Twitter." }, { "start": 2965.7599999999998, "end": 2971, "text": " We were trying to talk about Nokia's Android phone." }, { "start": 2971, "end": 2973.2, "text": " Yeah, that looks like garbage." }, { "start": 2973.2, "end": 2975.72, "text": " I hope they build it, it's going to be garbage." }, { "start": 2975.72, "end": 2982.56, "text": " No, look, I think, I really think what's happening here, and Nokia needs to do this." }, { "start": 2982.56, "end": 2990.16, "text": " So there were apparently rumors that Microsoft attempted and ultimately decided not to kill" }, { "start": 2990.16, "end": 2993.48, "text": " the 2520 for obvious reasons." }, { "start": 2993.48, "end": 2994.48, "text": " Is it dancing over?" }, { "start": 2994.48, "end": 2998, "text": " There he is." }, { "start": 2998, "end": 3004.48, "text": " Because the 2520 cannibalizes the surface obviously." }, { "start": 3004.48, "end": 3009.84, "text": " And they ultimately decided not to kill it because of, that would look weird from a regulatory" }, { "start": 3009.84, "end": 3011.76, "text": " perspective, they're not one company yet." }, { "start": 3011.76, "end": 3014.12, "text": " I think there's a lot of factors going into that." }, { "start": 3014.12, "end": 3018.2400000000002, "text": " I think that they probably had deals with the carriers to stock it already, because" }, { "start": 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3054.56, "end": 3061.64, "text": " I see absolutely no reason why Microsoft would sell this product if the deal completes." }, { "start": 3061.64, "end": 3065.92, "text": " My guess is that unless they have an ironclad carrier agreement that they can't get out" }, { "start": 3065.92, "end": 3069.44, "text": " of, they will EOL this project the moment the deal completes." }, { "start": 3069.44, "end": 3070.68, "text": " This is how it's going to go down." }, { "start": 3070.68, "end": 3075.44, "text": " It's going to be, the Microsoft deal is going to go through, they're going to buy Nokia," }, { "start": 3075.44, "end": 3080.54, "text": " and then a contingent of Nokia engineers are going to be laid off, and then they're going" }, { "start": 3080.54, "end": 3083.2, "text": " to start their own company, and they're going to put out an Android phone that looks just" }, { "start": 3083.2, "end": 3085.52, "text": " like the Normandy." }, { "start": 3085.52, "end": 3090.56, "text": " I wish you were wrong, or kidding, but you're not." }, { "start": 3090.56, "end": 3095.4, "text": " Yeah, I mean, who was I talking to?" }, { "start": 3095.4, "end": 3097.48, "text": " I think it was you, Chris." }, { "start": 3097.48, "end": 3102.84, "text": " There has to be, one of the reasons this is still going on is there has to be a sort of" }, { "start": 3102.84, "end": 3107.2799999999997, "text": " pride within Nokia that they can still make their own stuff." }, { "start": 3107.2799999999997, "end": 3113.52, "text": " There's got to be a group of people that are still there that are like, yeah, Windows" }, { "start": 3113.52, "end": 3117.04, "text": " Phone is fine, but we believe that we can do something awesome with software on our" }, { "start": 3117.04, "end": 3118.04, "text": " own." }, { "start": 3118.04, "end": 3120.08, "text": " We're going to keep pushing it, and they add space on Android or whatever." }, { "start": 3120.08, "end": 3124.88, "text": " And that sort of grit and determination is what's keeping this thing alive, even on" }, { "start": 3124.88, "end": 3125.88, "text": " the low end." }, { "start": 3125.88, "end": 3129.2799999999997, "text": " Well, yeah, you just said it, on the low end." }, { "start": 3129.2799999999997, "end": 3133.2, "text": " To be clear, this isn't designed to compete with the 1020, right?" }, { "start": 3133.2, "end": 3138.52, "text": " This is a device that slots somewhere between the Aria and the Lumia." }, { "start": 3138.52, "end": 3139.52, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 3139.52, "end": 3140.52, "text": " Asha?" }, { "start": 3140.52, "end": 3141.52, "text": " Asha." }, { "start": 3141.52, "end": 3143.68, "text": " Excuse me, Asha." }, { "start": 3143.68, "end": 3146.12, "text": " The Aria was an HTC phone on AT&T." }, { "start": 3146.12, "end": 3148.7599999999998, "text": " The Aria is also, my mind is on CES." }, { "start": 3148.76, "end": 3155.4, "text": " Aria is a hotel in Las Vegas where I will be spending at least part of my week." }, { "start": 3155.4, "end": 3159.4, "text": " I'm not a fan of the Aria hotel." }, { "start": 3159.4, "end": 3161.88, "text": " I like that Aria." }, { "start": 3161.88, "end": 3170.76, "text": " The whole thing about this Normandy leak is like, man, look at this phone." }, { "start": 3170.76, "end": 3177.84, "text": " And you know it's a low end phone, but look at, if Nokia made, man, if they made Android" }, { "start": 3177.84, "end": 3181.28, "text": " hardware for really real, they'd gone that direction." }, { "start": 3181.28, "end": 3185.34, "text": " So the rumor is that this is not, this is going to be a, would be a forked version of" }, { "start": 3185.34, "end": 3189.84, "text": " Android much like Amazon does with the Kindle flyers." }, { "start": 3189.84, "end": 3193.84, "text": " And like, you know, if they end up doing that or did do that or whatever, you're going" }, { "start": 3193.84, "end": 3198.08, "text": " to be the same sigh, bummer face that you're making now because it's going to be like," }, { "start": 3198.08, "end": 3201.44, "text": " oh, this really cool hardware runs Android, oh!" }, { "start": 3201.44, "end": 3202.44, "text": " You can't get the Play Store." }, { "start": 3202.44, "end": 3211.12, "text": " I do find it hilarious that Nokia is apparently working to secure BBM for this device." }, { "start": 3211.12, "end": 3214.2400000000002, "text": " Like that is so messed up on so many levels." }, { "start": 3214.2400000000002, "end": 3215.2400000000002, "text": " Well, hang on." }, { "start": 3215.2400000000002, "end": 3220.44, "text": " Your Microsoft division is working with Blackberry to secure BBM for Android." }, { "start": 3220.44, "end": 3221.44, "text": " Like just think about that for a second." }, { "start": 3221.44, "end": 3223.12, "text": " I can tell you exactly why they're doing that." }, { "start": 3223.12, "end": 3226.28, "text": " Look at the markets where BBM is growing and BBM is still extremely popular." }, { "start": 3226.28, "end": 3227.28, "text": " Oh no, no, no." }, { "start": 3227.28, "end": 3229.92, "text": " It's in low end markets in Asia and that's where this device would be sold." }, { "start": 3229.92, "end": 3231.96, "text": " From a business perspective, it makes perfect sense." }, { "start": 3231.96, "end": 3235.84, "text": " I'm just saying it messes with your mind to think about what's actually happening" }, { "start": 3235.84, "end": 3236.84, "text": " there." }, { "start": 3236.84, "end": 3238.52, "text": " But yes, I agree." }, { "start": 3238.52, "end": 3240.16, "text": " It makes sense." }, { "start": 3240.16, "end": 3246.28, "text": " So the thing about Amazon, the Amazon comparison is fair, but with Amazon, they played it very" }, { "start": 3246.28, "end": 3247.28, "text": " smartly, right?" }, { "start": 3247.28, "end": 3254.56, "text": " They spend a long time building up and preparing their own market so that they could fork in" }, { "start": 3254.56, "end": 3255.56, "text": " a responsible way." }, { "start": 3255.56, "end": 3257.52, "text": " And Nokia has not done that." }, { "start": 3257.52, "end": 3259.12, "text": " They have no Android market." }, { "start": 3259.12, "end": 3260.2400000000002, "text": " Right, right." }, { "start": 3260.24, "end": 3264.24, "text": " I wasn't knocking Amazon's per se, but I was saying like Nokia is going to do this thing" }, { "start": 3264.24, "end": 3267.6, "text": " that's going to be Android but not Android." }, { "start": 3267.6, "end": 3271.8799999999997, "text": " So you're still going to be super bummed out by it." }, { "start": 3271.8799999999997, "end": 3275.66, "text": " I mean Amazon can do its own thing because it's got like the world's largest content" }, { "start": 3275.66, "end": 3282.08, "text": " store or whatever and it sells the things at cost practically so it doesn't really care" }, { "start": 3282.08, "end": 3285, "text": " if it sells a lot or a few or any." }, { "start": 3285, "end": 3287.56, "text": " It's just a window into the Amazon store." }, { "start": 3287.56, "end": 3290.4, "text": " The Nokia store is not the same thing." }, { "start": 3290.4, "end": 3291.4, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 3291.4, "end": 3294.6, "text": " I mean think of how much good Android has done Blackberry, right?" }, { "start": 3294.6, "end": 3295.6, "text": " No good." }, { "start": 3295.6, "end": 3296.6, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3296.6, "end": 3302.92, "text": " But listen guys, if you are in a hurry and you can't wait for Nokia to release this head" }, { "start": 3302.92, "end": 3308.48, "text": " and arrival device, you can already go and get the Yola because that's essentially what" }, { "start": 3308.48, "end": 3310.64, "text": " we're talking about here." }, { "start": 3310.64, "end": 3318.2, "text": " Nokia developers working getting Android apps onto a forked, different OS on a Linux based" }, { "start": 3318.2, "end": 3324.16, "text": " OS and with the Yola you get the Yandex store on there, yay, right?" }, { "start": 3324.16, "end": 3327.24, "text": " 85,000 apps of dubious quality." }, { "start": 3327.24, "end": 3333.7599999999998, "text": " 85,000 wares apps." }, { "start": 3333.76, "end": 3340.6800000000003, "text": " Actually on the Yola it's pronounced Yairs with a Y." }, { "start": 3340.6800000000003, "end": 3341.6800000000003, "text": " I see what you did there." }, { "start": 3341.6800000000003, "end": 3342.6800000000003, "text": " It took me a second to process." }, { "start": 3342.6800000000003, "end": 3343.6800000000003, "text": " I see what you did there." }, { "start": 3343.6800000000003, "end": 3344.6800000000003, "text": " The Yandex store says Yairs." }, { "start": 3344.6800000000003, "end": 3345.6800000000003, "text": " I get it." }, { "start": 3345.6800000000003, "end": 3346.6800000000003, "text": " And yes, they were…" }, { "start": 3346.6800000000003, "end": 3347.6800000000003, "text": " And Yaps." }, { "start": 3347.6800000000003, "end": 3348.6800000000003, "text": " Well, okay." }, { "start": 3348.6800000000003, "end": 3349.6800000000003, "text": " See that's good." }, { "start": 3349.6800000000003, "end": 3361.1200000000003, "text": " They should just do that, you know, just customize everything and just make it really" }, { "start": 3361.12, "end": 3364.4, "text": " cute and fanciful but they do actually recommend getting…" }, { "start": 3364.4, "end": 3370.08, "text": " I would just love to have like the conversation like I'm having with like a marketing person" }, { "start": 3370.08, "end": 3374.12, "text": " at this company and their PR person and I'm like so how many apps do you have?" }, { "start": 3374.12, "end": 3379.2, "text": " And they're like well we like to say that we have between 10 to 15,000 Yaps and they" }, { "start": 3379.2, "end": 3382.7999999999997, "text": " like just like subtly correct me to Yaps every time I say apps." }, { "start": 3382.7999999999997, "end": 3387.56, "text": " But you realize they'd be doing that with a Russian accent which makes it even better." }, { "start": 3387.56, "end": 3392.52, "text": " Even threatening just a little bit." }, { "start": 3392.52, "end": 3393.52, "text": " We love you Russia." }, { "start": 3393.52, "end": 3394.52, "text": " We do." }, { "start": 3394.52, "end": 3403.08, "text": " I'm not sure if I should be offended by proxy but I just, you know, I'll let it" }, { "start": 3403.08, "end": 3404.08, "text": " slide." }, { "start": 3404.08, "end": 3408.56, "text": " But you know, the thing is I actually and I was reminded by a reader about this." }, { "start": 3408.56, "end": 3418.2, "text": " I wrote a wishful love letter sometime in like 2011 I think or 2012 about a Nokia Nexus" }, { "start": 3418.2, "end": 3424.32, "text": " and I was saying if Nokia would just do a stock Android device, I'll be in heaven." }, { "start": 3424.32, "end": 3425.32, "text": " It would be brilliant." }, { "start": 3425.32, "end": 3427.36, "text": " It would be awesome." }, { "start": 3427.36, "end": 3431.96, "text": " And you know, obviously I was talking about a high-end Nokia device and that was around" }, { "start": 3431.96, "end": 3437.84, "text": " the time that we had the N9 and the Lumia 800 and things just weren't looking all that" }, { "start": 3437.84, "end": 3442.2000000000003, "text": " great with this phone which they are really looking all that much better today." }, { "start": 3442.2000000000003, "end": 3447.2000000000003, "text": " But you know, since then what I've thought about it is you kind of have to realize that" }, { "start": 3447.2000000000003, "end": 3453.6000000000004, "text": " if Nokia had gone the Android route, we might have had potentially even the best Android" }, { "start": 3453.6000000000004, "end": 3455.6400000000003, "text": " phone full stop, right?" }, { "start": 3455.6400000000003, "end": 3461.2000000000003, "text": " We might have had the best combination of hardware, software, camera, design, everything," }, { "start": 3461.2000000000003, "end": 3462.2000000000003, "text": " right?" }, { "start": 3462.2000000000003, "end": 3464.1600000000003, "text": " But that would have been a short term thing." }, { "start": 3464.1600000000003, "end": 3465.8, "text": " It would have been a short term benefit." }, { "start": 3465.8, "end": 3471.3, "text": " I think exactly the point that Chris raised, Nokia has some of the best hardware designers" }, { "start": 3471.3, "end": 3474.52, "text": " and it has some of the best camera people on its staff." }, { "start": 3474.52, "end": 3479.5, "text": " Those guys shouldn't be in the Android ecosystem because most of the really good designers" }, { "start": 3479.5, "end": 3485.52, "text": " and hardware guys, well probably 99% of them are either in Android or working for Apple" }, { "start": 3485.52, "end": 3486.88, "text": " with the iPhone." }, { "start": 3486.88, "end": 3491.5800000000004, "text": " And we need that third party and Microsoft is the company that has the financial muscle" }, { "start": 3491.5800000000004, "end": 3494.52, "text": " to survive as the third option." }, { "start": 3494.52, "end": 3497.16, "text": " As soon as they pick a CEO." }, { "start": 3497.16, "end": 3499.84, "text": " Yeah, which will happen next year." }, { "start": 3499.84, "end": 3506.44, "text": " But the point is if Nokia had gone with Android, we might have had better phones over the past" }, { "start": 3506.44, "end": 3507.52, "text": " couple of years." }, { "start": 3507.52, "end": 3515.48, "text": " But ultimately the competition would have been driven down and we would have felt the" }, { "start": 3515.48, "end": 3518.08, "text": " rough part of that over the next few years." }, { "start": 3518.08, "end": 3522.28, "text": " Whereas the fact that we now have a great design team working for Microsoft and Windows" }, { "start": 3522.28, "end": 3529.1200000000003, "text": " phone, a great bunch of design teams working on Android and Apple's uncontested design" }, { "start": 3529.1200000000003, "end": 3532.2000000000003, "text": " chops with the iPhone, it gives us free." }, { "start": 3532.2000000000003, "end": 3534.76, "text": " And look, three is greater than two." }, { "start": 3534.76, "end": 3536.84, "text": " So yay." }, { "start": 3536.84, "end": 3537.84, "text": " It's one more." }, { "start": 3537.84, "end": 3541.32, "text": " No, it's a fair point." }, { "start": 3541.32, "end": 3542.32, "text": " It's totally true." }, { "start": 3542.32, "end": 3544.5600000000004, "text": " It's 50% better." }, { "start": 3544.5600000000004, "end": 3546.52, "text": " It's a fair point though." }, { "start": 3546.52, "end": 3552, "text": " A world with only two viable smart phone platforms is a very depressing world indeed." }, { "start": 3552, "end": 3557.66, "text": " And the thing that's funny about that is not only are we heading towards a world with" }, { "start": 3557.66, "end": 3560.5, "text": " only two smart phone platforms, but we're really heading towards a world with really" }, { "start": 3560.5, "end": 3563.64, "text": " only two successful smart phone makers." }, { "start": 3563.64, "end": 3567.4, "text": " Because Samsung is the only Android one that's making money and obviously Apple makes buttloads" }, { "start": 3567.4, "end": 3568.4, "text": " of money." }, { "start": 3568.4, "end": 3570.36, "text": " So does Sony." }, { "start": 3570.36, "end": 3573.52, "text": " Sony makes a tiny little bit of money." }, { "start": 3573.52, "end": 3578.8, "text": " But you know, Samsung is definitely by far the dominant Android maker." }, { "start": 3578.8, "end": 3582.6000000000004, "text": " It's two manufacturers on one of each platform." }, { "start": 3582.6000000000004, "end": 3586.5600000000004, "text": " So you know, everything you're saying is very fine." }, { "start": 3586.5600000000004, "end": 3592.7200000000003, "text": " There needs to be more competition differentiation options." }, { "start": 3592.7200000000003, "end": 3595.76, "text": " Actually I'm not going to try it." }, { "start": 3595.76, "end": 3602.4, "text": " I want to go back to carrier stuff because the CTIA, the carrier lobbying group that" }, { "start": 3602.4, "end": 3610.92, "text": " represents the biggest carriers in the US has agreed on six policies for allowing consumers" }, { "start": 3610.92, "end": 3616.08, "text": " to unlock their cell phones." }, { "start": 3616.08, "end": 3619.7200000000003, "text": " It's not clear if you're allowed to unlock it when you're under contract, but they're" }, { "start": 3619.7200000000003, "end": 3624.56, "text": " required to let you do it after a year or two." }, { "start": 3624.56, "end": 3629.48, "text": " They're required to give you the unlock within two days after you ask for it." }, { "start": 3629.48, "end": 3634.4, "text": " And they're required to unlock phones for deploying military personnel." }, { "start": 3634.4, "end": 3639.96, "text": " And this is my favorite one, they're required to provide notice that you are now eligible" }, { "start": 3639.96, "end": 3641.88, "text": " to have your phone unlocked." }, { "start": 3641.88, "end": 3647.96, "text": " I'm sure that caused a lot of gear grinding in the CTIA when Tom Wheeler came down with" }, { "start": 3647.96, "end": 3650.96, "text": " that requirement." }, { "start": 3650.96, "end": 3655.56, "text": " I think that the most ambiguous thing at this point, and I don't think it's ever been" }, { "start": 3655.56, "end": 3662.08, "text": " clarified is just what you were saying Dieter with regards to the contract." }, { "start": 3662.08, "end": 3667.24, "text": " I believe the specific verbiage they use is you have to fulfill your contract in order" }, { "start": 3667.24, "end": 3669.2, "text": " to qualify for unlocking." }, { "start": 3669.2, "end": 3673.48, "text": " And so the question is, does paying the ETF constitute a fulfillment of the contract or" }, { "start": 3673.48, "end": 3674.58, "text": " a breaking of the contract?" }, { "start": 3674.58, "end": 3679.88, "text": " Or if you buy a phone at full retail and never actually sign a contract." }, { "start": 3679.88, "end": 3685.48, "text": " Well no, I think that with the verbiage the way it is now, that would make you instantly" }, { "start": 3685.48, "end": 3687.1600000000003, "text": " eligible for unlocking." }, { "start": 3687.1600000000003, "end": 3690.52, "text": " But yeah, there are still many questions that are left unanswered." }, { "start": 3690.52, "end": 3696.12, "text": " It almost feels like, apart from the military rule and things like that, it almost feels" }, { "start": 3696.12, "end": 3699.04, "text": " like a symbolic victory here." }, { "start": 3699.04, "end": 3704.82, "text": " Because Verizon already offers a lot of its phones international unlocked if you're traveling." }, { "start": 3704.82, "end": 3707.6800000000003, "text": " You can buy them right away, they're unlocked for international use." }, { "start": 3707.6800000000003, "end": 3709.32, "text": " I think Sprint does a lot of the same thing." }, { "start": 3709.32, "end": 3710.32, "text": " It's really AT&T." }, { "start": 3710.32, "end": 3711.32, "text": " AT&T iPhone." }, { "start": 3711.32, "end": 3712.32, "text": " Not just AT&T, AT&T iPhone." }, { "start": 3712.32, "end": 3714.84, "text": " That's really what it comes down to." }, { "start": 3714.84, "end": 3719.84, "text": " Yeah, it's AT&T who's been the stubborn one with the unlocking, but if you fulfill your" }, { "start": 3719.84, "end": 3724.52, "text": " contract with them and you don't happen to have an exclusive device, they'll unlock" }, { "start": 3724.52, "end": 3725.92, "text": " your phone if you call them." }, { "start": 3725.92, "end": 3728.1600000000003, "text": " Not the iPhone." }, { "start": 3728.1600000000003, "end": 3730, "text": " They won't even if you're out of contract?" }, { "start": 3730, "end": 3731.8, "text": " I don't think so." }, { "start": 3731.8, "end": 3736.6800000000003, "text": " Maybe that policy changed more recently, but for many, many years that was like the one" }, { "start": 3736.6800000000003, "end": 3738.84, "text": " phone that they held precious." }, { "start": 3738.84, "end": 3745.08, "text": " Well, I know they are very precious about devices that are their exclusive." }, { "start": 3745.08, "end": 3748.44, "text": " If you try to go unlock a Lubia 1020, you're probably going to run into a lot of brick" }, { "start": 3748.44, "end": 3750.6400000000003, "text": " walls." }, { "start": 3750.6400000000003, "end": 3756.52, "text": " But the exclusives are becoming fewer and fewer far between these days." }, { "start": 3756.52, "end": 3763, "text": " But otherwise, it's a good thing to have it down as a policy and in writing." }, { "start": 3763, "end": 3765.6400000000003, "text": " So now that's one small step." }, { "start": 3765.64, "end": 3770.8799999999997, "text": " The next step is to actually have a network of carriers that are competitive that you" }, { "start": 3770.8799999999997, "end": 3775.12, "text": " could actually switch your phone between easily." }, { "start": 3775.12, "end": 3781.7, "text": " Right now you've got T-Mobile and you've got AT&T and that's about it until we move" }, { "start": 3781.7, "end": 3786.3599999999997, "text": " to an LTE only world, then maybe we could start talking about being able to switch your" }, { "start": 3786.3599999999997, "end": 3787.3599999999997, "text": " phone." }, { "start": 3787.3599999999997, "end": 3793.16, "text": " Well, unfortunately, phones like the Nexus 5 which support all these ridiculous technologies" }, { "start": 3793.16, "end": 3797.8399999999997, "text": " and bands, that's a step in the right direction, but we're going to run into another technical" }, { "start": 3797.8399999999997, "end": 3804.44, "text": " lock between carriers when everybody transitions to Volte because I don't think that any carrier" }, { "start": 3804.44, "end": 3809.96, "text": " has agreed in the US has agreed on how their Volte is going to work." }, { "start": 3809.96, "end": 3812.52, "text": " They haven't even agreed within carriers." }, { "start": 3812.52, "end": 3816.92, "text": " I still remember the map that Sprint showed for their Volte roadmap and the first step" }, { "start": 3816.92, "end": 3821.92, "text": " was it would work in the Pacific Northwest and in the Northeast and in the South, but" }, { "start": 3821.92, "end": 3826.6800000000003, "text": " since the network equipment wasn't compatible with each other, it would only work if you" }, { "start": 3826.6800000000003, "end": 3830.6, "text": " were both in those same geographic regions to start and they'd figure out compatibility" }, { "start": 3830.6, "end": 3832.28, "text": " between them later." }, { "start": 3832.28, "end": 3834.08, "text": " That was HD voice, wasn't it?" }, { "start": 3834.08, "end": 3835.92, "text": " Was that HD voice?" }, { "start": 3835.92, "end": 3836.92, "text": " I think that was HD voice." }, { "start": 3836.92, "end": 3838.52, "text": " Why am I trying to provide analysis?" }, { "start": 3838.52, "end": 3840.32, "text": " I mean, obviously not." }, { "start": 3840.32, "end": 3843.8, "text": " No, no, no, but the point is still good." }, { "start": 3843.8, "end": 3846.88, "text": " These guys are totally fragmented with Volte." }, { "start": 3846.88, "end": 3850.8, "text": " Nobody has figured out how to – I mean, the fact that Verizon has delayed their Volte" }, { "start": 3850.8, "end": 3855.2000000000003, "text": " deployment like 18 times now and still isn't rolled out speaks volumes." }, { "start": 3855.2000000000003, "end": 3862.44, "text": " I mean, we first saw Verizon demo Volte in 2011 on an LG Revolution." }, { "start": 3862.44, "end": 3866.88, "text": " I think that was at CES, might have been CTIA that year, but – and it's still not here" }, { "start": 3866.88, "end": 3870.6000000000004, "text": " and that's because they're having – I don't think they fully detailed the kinds" }, { "start": 3870.6000000000004, "end": 3871.88, "text": " of problems they're having." }, { "start": 3871.88, "end": 3877.1200000000003, "text": " One concern is battery life, I know, but yeah, see what happens." }, { "start": 3877.1200000000003, "end": 3880.6000000000004, "text": " The LG Revolution, man, that phone looked like a car." }, { "start": 3880.6, "end": 3883.56, "text": " It looked like a muscle car." }, { "start": 3883.56, "end": 3885.7999999999997, "text": " I don't know if I'd use that terminology." }, { "start": 3885.7999999999997, "end": 3888.72, "text": " Yeah, it lasted about as long as a muscle car as well." }, { "start": 3888.72, "end": 3891.72, "text": " It was like, hello, LG, done." }, { "start": 3891.72, "end": 3894.36, "text": " Yeah, pretty much." }, { "start": 3894.36, "end": 3902.08, "text": " I have to say, Chris, throughout your rant about the fragmentation of American networks," }, { "start": 3902.08, "end": 3906.64, "text": " it just so heartening to me because it just reminds me of how glorious it is to live in" }, { "start": 3906.64, "end": 3907.64, "text": " Europe." }, { "start": 3907.64, "end": 3908.64, "text": " So thank you." }, { "start": 3908.64, "end": 3909.64, "text": " Whatever, man." }, { "start": 3909.64, "end": 3914, "text": " I'm not even – have you used a single LTE network in the UK yet?" }, { "start": 3914, "end": 3919.08, "text": " Chris, all I've got to say is look at the OECD data, man." }, { "start": 3919.08, "end": 3921.92, "text": " That's my high level trash talk for today." }, { "start": 3921.92, "end": 3922.92, "text": " Look at what data?" }, { "start": 3922.92, "end": 3923.92, "text": " OECD." }, { "start": 3923.92, "end": 3926.92, "text": " What are you talking about?" }, { "start": 3926.92, "end": 3927.92, "text": " OECD?" }, { "start": 3927.92, "end": 3930.96, "text": " This is like a multi-level troll." }, { "start": 3930.96, "end": 3935.04, "text": " Vlad just totally made up an acronym." }, { "start": 3935.04, "end": 3937.04, "text": " This is some like UN garbage." }, { "start": 3937.04, "end": 3938.04, "text": " What is this?" }, { "start": 3938.04, "end": 3941.6, "text": " What kind of troll is this?" }, { "start": 3941.6, "end": 3945.52, "text": " This is like eight grade levels too high for a troll." }, { "start": 3945.52, "end": 3949.08, "text": " You need to kick it down a notch." }, { "start": 3949.08, "end": 3951.2799999999997, "text": " Just make a comment about my face or my mom." }, { "start": 3951.2799999999997, "end": 3952.2799999999997, "text": " Or Chicago." }, { "start": 3952.2799999999997, "end": 3953.2799999999997, "text": " Yeah, or Chicago." }, { "start": 3953.2799999999997, "end": 3954.2799999999997, "text": " Don't try OECD." }, { "start": 3954.2799999999997, "end": 3956.24, "text": " I don't know what this means." }, { "start": 3956.24, "end": 3957.24, "text": " I'm closing it." }, { "start": 3957.24, "end": 3958.24, "text": " Tab closed." }, { "start": 3958.24, "end": 3959.24, "text": " Oh my god, tab closed." }, { "start": 3959.24, "end": 3960.24, "text": " What was that?" }, { "start": 3960.24, "end": 3961.24, "text": " Was that a Tumblr or something?" }, { "start": 3961.24, "end": 3962.24, "text": " What?" }, { "start": 3962.24, "end": 3963.24, "text": " Tab closed." }, { "start": 3963.24, "end": 3964.24, "text": " Did a read." }, { "start": 3964.24, "end": 3965.24, "text": " Did a read." }, { "start": 3965.24, "end": 3966.24, "text": " Did a read." }, { "start": 3966.24, "end": 3967.24, "text": " Did a read." }, { "start": 3967.24, "end": 3968.24, "text": " Did a read." }, { "start": 3968.24, "end": 3969.24, "text": " Did a read." }, { "start": 3969.24, "end": 3970.24, "text": " Did a read." }, { "start": 3970.24, "end": 3971.24, "text": " Did a read." }, { "start": 3971.24, "end": 3972.24, "text": " Did a read?" }, { "start": 3972.24, "end": 3973.24, "text": " Did a read." }, { "start": 3973.24, "end": 3974.24, "text": " Did a read." }, { "start": 3974.24, "end": 3975.24, "text": " Did a read." }, { "start": 3975.24, "end": 3984.68, "text": " I mean, I'm not going to talk about Resnce, the wireless charging thing." }, { "start": 3984.68, "end": 3985.74, "text": " No." }, { "start": 3985.74, "end": 3990.72, "text": " I will say that I am using wireless chargers now." }, { "start": 3990.72, "end": 3995.3799999999997, "text": " I got whatever Nokia's standard puck is, I was looking at their puck dock." }, { "start": 3995.38, "end": 3997.12, "text": " So does that work with the Nexus 5?" }, { "start": 3997.12, "end": 3999.36, "text": " Because it never wanted to work with the Nexus 4." }, { "start": 3999.36, "end": 4002.02, "text": " It works better with the Nexus 5 than the Nexus 4." }, { "start": 4002.02, "end": 4004.1, "text": " For a while, I thought it was causing it to overheat," }, { "start": 4004.1, "end": 4005.6, "text": " but I think that was just the Nexus 5." }, { "start": 4005.6, "end": 4006.94, "text": " But I love it." }, { "start": 4006.94, "end": 4009.9, "text": " And so I'm like, I put a bunch of different wireless chargers" }, { "start": 4009.9, "end": 4012.46, "text": " on my Christmas list because I think it's great." }, { "start": 4012.46, "end": 4017.5, "text": " The fact that Nokia decoupled wireless charging" }, { "start": 4017.5, "end": 4020.7000000000003, "text": " from the phones was a major blow for wireless charging" }, { "start": 4020.7000000000003, "end": 4021.3, "text": " in general." }, { "start": 4021.3, "end": 4023.82, "text": " I think because they were the biggest champions of it, right?" }, { "start": 4023.82, "end": 4024.54, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4024.54, "end": 4026.86, "text": " I think Verizon has been the biggest champion" }, { "start": 4026.86, "end": 4028.58, "text": " of wireless charging." }, { "start": 4028.58, "end": 4029.3, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4029.3, "end": 4029.7799999999997, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4029.7799999999997, "end": 4031.7799999999997, "text": " At some point, I don't know if this is still true," }, { "start": 4031.7799999999997, "end": 4033.9, "text": " but when they first started selling LTE phones," }, { "start": 4033.9, "end": 4037.06, "text": " they had a requirement that every LTE phone they sold," }, { "start": 4037.06, "end": 4038.82, "text": " if it didn't ship with Qi, needed" }, { "start": 4038.82, "end": 4042.98, "text": " to have a Qi back accessory available." }, { "start": 4042.98, "end": 4043.98, "text": " So is, like, yeah." }, { "start": 4043.98, "end": 4046.74, "text": " So there's Qi, and now there's this new one, and whatever." }, { "start": 4046.74, "end": 4049.74, "text": " I mean, I hope that they can get this stuff defragmented" }, { "start": 4049.74, "end": 4050.34, "text": " relatively soon." }, { "start": 4050.34, "end": 4050.84, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4050.84, "end": 4053.02, "text": " Like, what was wrong with Qi?" }, { "start": 4053.02, "end": 4055.5, "text": " Like, is there really that much, like," }, { "start": 4055.5, "end": 4058.74, "text": " is there so much money in this untapped wireless charging" }, { "start": 4058.74, "end": 4061.2599999999998, "text": " market that we need to fragment in 18 different directions" }, { "start": 4061.2599999999998, "end": 4062.9, "text": " before we arrive at a standard?" }, { "start": 4062.9, "end": 4065.78, "text": " Why can't everybody just say, yeah, OK, now it exists." }, { "start": 4065.78, "end": 4066.58, "text": " The standard exists." }, { "start": 4066.58, "end": 4068.82, "text": " Everybody make accessories for that." }, { "start": 4068.82, "end": 4070.22, "text": " Because it's ridiculous." }, { "start": 4070.22, "end": 4072.62, "text": " Yellow, Qi, done." }, { "start": 4072.62, "end": 4075.42, "text": " Some people get paid for Qi, and some people don't." }, { "start": 4075.42, "end": 4076.82, "text": " Well, there's also the offensive." }, { "start": 4076.82, "end": 4079.9, "text": " Some people get cheated." }, { "start": 4079.9, "end": 4082.38, "text": " That was, I'm not even going to respond to that." }, { "start": 4082.38, "end": 4085.02, "text": " There's the offensively bad branding" }, { "start": 4085.02, "end": 4088.38, "text": " resins, which I don't even want to discuss." }, { "start": 4088.38, "end": 4089.62, "text": " Like, everything about this is horrible." }, { "start": 4089.62, "end": 4090.94, "text": " They take two brackets and then attach them" }, { "start": 4090.94, "end": 4092.1, "text": " with a lightning bolt." }, { "start": 4092.1, "end": 4092.58, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4092.58, "end": 4094.42, "text": " It's the worst." }, { "start": 4094.42, "end": 4096.22, "text": " And meanwhile, mark my words." }, { "start": 4096.22, "end": 4099.18, "text": " Wireless charging is the next NFC." }, { "start": 4099.18, "end": 4103.7, "text": " Like, the only way wireless charging is ever going to happen" }, { "start": 4103.7, "end": 4105.3, "text": " is when it doesn't involve a pad." }, { "start": 4105.3, "end": 4107.02, "text": " It's just, like, through the air," }, { "start": 4107.02, "end": 4109.4400000000005, "text": " which is a technology that different companies have been" }, { "start": 4109.4400000000005, "end": 4111.1, "text": " working on for a few years now." }, { "start": 4111.1, "end": 4114.14, "text": " Like, if I can just walk into a room and things start charging," }, { "start": 4114.14, "end": 4116.18, "text": " yes, I'll probably immediately get cancer." }, { "start": 4116.18, "end": 4118.5, "text": " But if everything that is on my person starts charging," }, { "start": 4118.5, "end": 4119.18, "text": " it's worth it." }, { "start": 4125.900000000001, "end": 4128.14, "text": " Sorry, I'm just reading that resins" }, { "start": 4128.14, "end": 4130.660000000001, "text": " is a portmanteau of resonant and essence," }, { "start": 4130.660000000001, "end": 4132.820000000001, "text": " and I find that amazing." }, { "start": 4132.820000000001, "end": 4135.3, "text": " It's the worst, is what it is." }, { "start": 4135.3, "end": 4136.9800000000005, "text": " Of course, Qi isn't any better." }, { "start": 4136.9800000000005, "end": 4138.1, "text": " It's just pretty cheap." }, { "start": 4138.1, "end": 4139.820000000001, "text": " Dan, stop trying the Qi puns." }, { "start": 4139.820000000001, "end": 4141.900000000001, "text": " They're not going to happen." }, { "start": 4141.900000000001, "end": 4144.18, "text": " I think they just dropped on us, like," }, { "start": 4144.18, "end": 4147.700000000001, "text": " two mega bombs of punnage." }, { "start": 4147.700000000001, "end": 4151.26, "text": " Can we fire Dan and just rehire him just ahead of CES?" }, { "start": 4151.26, "end": 4155.620000000001, "text": " I guess you could say I'm achieving new levels of puns." }, { "start": 4155.620000000001, "end": 4159.660000000001, "text": " That, ladies and gentlemen, is the Verge mobile show." }, { "start": 4159.660000000001, "end": 4163.42, "text": " I want to thank you so much for listening and or watching." }, { "start": 4163.42, "end": 4165.3, "text": " If you want to follow us on Twitter," }, { "start": 4165.3, "end": 4171.3, "text": " you can, I am Backlund, Dan is Qi, Vlad is Vlad Sabov," }, { "start": 4171.3, "end": 4173.74, "text": " Chris is ZPower." }, { "start": 4173.74, "end": 4175.78, "text": " We are all at Verge." }, { "start": 4175.78, "end": 4178.02, "text": " And as we mentioned at the top of the show," }, { "start": 4178.02, "end": 4180.38, "text": " we're probably going to be taking a hiatus" }, { "start": 4180.38, "end": 4182.860000000001, "text": " for a couple of weeks." }, { "start": 4182.860000000001, "end": 4183.62, "text": " Or maybe not." }, { "start": 4183.62, "end": 4187.02, "text": " We might surprise you and have a New Year's Eve" }, { "start": 4187.02, "end": 4190.06, "text": " crazy wild time, or not." }, { "start": 4190.06, "end": 4192.62, "text": " We will let you know on the website when that happens." }, { "start": 4192.62, "end": 4196.14, "text": " In the meantime, please comment on the post and say hi." }, { "start": 4196.14, "end": 4198.099999999999, "text": " Or we won't." }, { "start": 4198.099999999999, "end": 4201.62, "text": " I'm trying to drag this out to come up with a cheat" }, { "start": 4201.62, "end": 4203.14, "text": " pun of my own, and I can't do it." }, { "start": 4203.14, "end": 4204.14, "text": " We'll cheat you later." }, { "start": 4204.14, "end": 4204.66, "text": " Oh my god." }, { "start": 4208.66, "end": 4210.7, "text": " Just leave it to the pros, Dieter." }, { "start": 4210.7, "end": 4211.22, "text": " That's it." }, { "start": 4211.22, "end": 4212.7, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4212.7, "end": 4213.22, "text": " Cut." }, { "start": 4213.22, "end": 4223.22, "text": " End the show." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 5.44, "text": " It's Tuesday, December 17th, 2013. I'm Josh Lowenton and today's episode is written," }, { "start": 5.44, "end": 9.52, "text": " directed, and mo-capped by Shia LaBeouf. This is 90 Seconds on the Verge." }, { "start": 9.52, "end": 14.08, "text": " Problems with your healthcare registration? Clippy can help. Former Microsoft Office Executive" }, { "start": 14.08, "end": 18.44, "text": " Kurt DelBene will take over as the leader of Healthcare.gov. Though Healthcare.gov is" }, { "start": 18.44, "end": 23.04, "text": " largely operational, getting a high-profile tech executive in charge is an important step" }, { "start": 23.04, "end": 24.560000000000002, "text": " towards getting it the rest of the way." }, { "start": 24.560000000000002, "end": 29.2, "text": " Queen Bey is back, but one major retailer is swatting her away. Despite having the fastest" }, { "start": 29.2, "end": 34.48, "text": " selling album on iTunes ever, Target is refusing to sell Beyoncé's new album. The company" }, { "start": 34.48, "end": 38.6, "text": " says the digital release of the album prior to the physical, quote, impacts demand and" }, { "start": 38.6, "end": 44.12, "text": " sales projections. Target is clearly severing strong ties with Beyoncé. Her last studio" }, { "start": 44.12, "end": 48.96, "text": " album was offered as a Target exclusive with six extra tracks. The record is expected to" }, { "start": 48.96, "end": 51.8, "text": " see a wide release in physical form this Friday." }, { "start": 51.8, "end": 56, "text": " And finally, after 20 years of ons and offs, the Sandman movie is finally happening. Actor" }, { "start": 56, "end": 59.88, "text": " Joseph Gordon-Levitt tweeted the news last night, confirming that the movie, based on" }, { "start": 59.88, "end": 64.54, "text": " Neil Gaiman's seminal The Sandman comics, is in the works yet again. Gordon-Levitt signed" }, { "start": 64.54, "end": 68.2, "text": " on to produce the film with Warner Brothers, while writer David Goyer will supervise the" }, { "start": 68.2, "end": 72.64, "text": " script and Gaiman himself will executive produce. The success of The Sandman comics helped to" }, { "start": 72.64, "end": 77.64, "text": " solidify the position of DC's offshoot Vertigo Comics by outselling Superman and Batman in" }, { "start": 77.64, "end": 81.44, "text": " the mid-90s. Whether JGL will direct or star remains to be seen." }, { "start": 81.44, "end": 86.84, "text": " And that's it for today's top stories. Coming up tomorrow, I return home to capeside. Dawson" }, { "start": 86.84, "end": 113.72, "text": " is going to be stoked." } ]

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It's not a substitute." }, { "start": 450.36, "end": 455.44, "text": " Nobody in South Korea would ever start a business using a smartphone and not having a wire at" }, { "start": 455.44, "end": 456.44, "text": " home." }, { "start": 456.44, "end": 457.44, "text": " Same thing here." }, { "start": 457.44, "end": 462.02000000000004, "text": " What are the next steps, both on the local and the larger macro national level, beyond" }, { "start": 462.02000000000004, "end": 463.02000000000004, "text": " just making everybody jealous?" }, { "start": 463.02, "end": 466.32, "text": " What are the concrete things that actual people can do?" }, { "start": 466.32, "end": 468, "text": " Oh, no question." }, { "start": 468, "end": 471.15999999999997, "text": " The thing I'm going to do with my life and my limited time on earth is make sure that" }, { "start": 471.15999999999997, "end": 475.59999999999997, "text": " I can help mayors understand best practices across these different cities, never act in" }, { "start": 475.59999999999997, "end": 480.06, "text": " a vacuum, share lots of information, maybe act as a buying cooperative when it comes" }, { "start": 480.06, "end": 483.4, "text": " to getting the equipment in place, mounting the political campaigns." }, { "start": 483.4, "end": 485.06, "text": " That's so important." }, { "start": 485.06, "end": 489.47999999999996, "text": " What people can do in each city is give their mayor air cover, say, we're going to vote" }, { "start": 489.47999999999996, "end": 490.47999999999996, "text": " on this basis." }, { "start": 490.48, "end": 493.96000000000004, "text": " We're going to make sure that the people who represent us understand that we need this" }, { "start": 493.96000000000004, "end": 495.96000000000004, "text": " access at a reasonable cost." }, { "start": 495.96000000000004, "end": 499.64000000000004, "text": " It's interesting that you're focused on mayors, and that's why I'm coming back to it, because" }, { "start": 499.64000000000004, "end": 503.12, "text": " how do you do that without a strong federal policy throughout the country?" }, { "start": 503.12, "end": 504.12, "text": " Here's my secret plan." }, { "start": 504.12, "end": 505.40000000000003, "text": " Can you go to every state and every city?" }, { "start": 505.40000000000003, "end": 508.96000000000004, "text": " Yeah, the secret plan is each city gets interested in this." }, { "start": 508.96000000000004, "end": 513.36, "text": " We roll back the terrible state laws that prevent cities from acting on fiber networks." }, { "start": 513.36, "end": 514.9200000000001, "text": " Gradually, it's going to take a while." }, { "start": 514.9200000000001, "end": 516.04, "text": " There are 19 of them." }, { "start": 516.04, "end": 520.52, "text": " That creates a patchwork that makes everybody jealous and switches the expectations so that" }, { "start": 520.52, "end": 526.8399999999999, "text": " at the federal level, even the people who seem incapable of moving now change the policy." }, { "start": 526.8399999999999, "end": 530.4, "text": " We don't make progress really until you can see something." }, { "start": 530.4, "end": 533.5999999999999, "text": " In America right now, we don't see how badly we're doing." }, { "start": 533.5999999999999, "end": 535.3199999999999, "text": " We make that visible by using the mayors." }, { "start": 535.3199999999999, "end": 536.3199999999999, "text": " It's a first step." }, { "start": 536.3199999999999, "end": 537.3199999999999, "text": " It's not the last step." }, { "start": 537.3199999999999, "end": 538.3199999999999, "text": " Well, it's Professor Cross." }, { "start": 538.3199999999999, "end": 539.3199999999999, "text": " Professor." }, { "start": 539.3199999999999, "end": 540.3199999999999, "text": " Thank you very much." }, { "start": 540.3199999999999, "end": 541.3199999999999, "text": " Nice to meet you." }, { "start": 541.32, "end": 546.32, "text": " Thank you." } ]

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The a7 and a7R are significant for one reason." }, { "start": 15.44, "end": 19.84, "text": " They are the first interchangeable lens mirrorless cameras with full-frame 35mm sensors." }, { "start": 19.84, "end": 23.76, "text": " They are the smallest, lightest, and most portable full-frame cameras on the market." }, { "start": 23.76, "end": 28, "text": " All other mirrorless cameras have smaller sensors that are not as good in low light or other difficult" }, { "start": 28, "end": 32.32, "text": " shooting situations and they can't match the image quality of a full-frame DSLR." }, { "start": 32.32, "end": 36.72, "text": " As the adage goes, the best camera is the one that you have with you and it's a lot easier to have a" }, { "start": 36.72, "end": 41.120000000000005, "text": " smaller camera with you more often. For many that means a smartphone, but smartphones don't offer" }, { "start": 41.120000000000005, "end": 45.519999999999996, "text": " anywhere near the image quality of a proper camera. Sony's managed to make two cameras that aren't a" }, { "start": 45.519999999999996, "end": 50.16, "text": " chore to lug around and can hold their own in nearly any photo situation. Both cameras clearly" }, { "start": 50.16, "end": 54.96, "text": " come from Sony's NEX line of mirrorless cameras, only they are slightly bigger and have a few more" }, { "start": 54.96, "end": 59.44, "text": " dials and switches on them. They are also similar in appearance to the RX1 fixed lens camera." }, { "start": 59.44, "end": 63.760000000000005, "text": " Physically, there aren't really any noticeable differences between the a7 and the a7R," }, { "start": 63.760000000000005, "end": 68.4, "text": " save for the tiny badge on the upper right of the camera. Both have 3 inch tiltable displays," }, { "start": 68.4, "end": 72.8, "text": " high resolution electronic viewfinders that look absolutely great, sizable rubbery grips," }, { "start": 72.8, "end": 77.36, "text": " and enough buttons and dials to satisfy even the most demanding photographer. Both cameras are also" }, { "start": 77.36, "end": 81.84, "text": " solid and well made and feel worth their price tags. Inside is where the two models differ," }, { "start": 81.84, "end": 88.16, "text": " as the a7 has a 24 megapixel sensor and the a7R has a 36 megapixel chip. The a7 also has a faster" }, { "start": 88.16, "end": 92.56, "text": " autofocus and continuous shooting speed, but other than that the two cameras are almost identical." }, { "start": 92.56, "end": 97.44, "text": " They also feature built-in wifi and NFC for pairing to an android or iOS smartphone," }, { "start": 97.44, "end": 102.64, "text": " and can shoot 1080p video at 24 or 60 frames per second. Shooting with the two cameras is almost" }, { "start": 102.64, "end": 107.52000000000001, "text": " the same as well. Neither camera is particularly quiet, which is disappointing, but the a7R's" }, { "start": 107.52, "end": 113.44, "text": " shutter is significantly louder and just doesn't sound nice. Likewise, the a7's autofocus is faster" }, { "start": 113.44, "end": 117.67999999999999, "text": " in practice, but neither camera is particularly quick when it comes to focusing, and I noticed" }, { "start": 117.67999999999999, "end": 123.19999999999999, "text": " that the cameras tended to mis-focus a bit more than proper DSLRs. Also, the a7's 5 frames per" }, { "start": 123.19999999999999, "end": 127.19999999999999, "text": " second continuous shooting is passable, but it's not going to impress any sports photographers." }, { "start": 127.19999999999999, "end": 131.2, "text": " The a7's can be shot in a variety of full automatic modes, but they're really designed to" }, { "start": 131.2, "end": 135.51999999999998, "text": " let you the photographer take control and make decisions about focusing and exposure. But the" }, { "start": 135.52, "end": 139.76000000000002, "text": " output from these cameras is quite remarkable. Both models capture an immense amount of detail," }, { "start": 139.76000000000002, "end": 144.8, "text": " with the a7R taking the edge due to its higher megapixel count. Both cameras also shoot incredibly" }, { "start": 144.8, "end": 150.24, "text": " well in low light, and at high ISOs, with a slight nod to the a7. Like we saw with the RX1," }, { "start": 150.24, "end": 155.92000000000002, "text": " the a7 and a7R can hold their own with any other full frame camera up to ISO 6400," }, { "start": 155.92000000000002, "end": 160.88, "text": " and higher ISOs are even usable in most situations. There are some ugly JPEG processing artifacts if" }, { "start": 160.88, "end": 164.64000000000001, "text": " you pixel peep on the images, but they're not visible most of the time and aren't an issue if" }, { "start": 164.64, "end": 169.6, "text": " you shoot raw. I'm partial to the $1700 a7, because it has enough resolution for my needs," }, { "start": 169.6, "end": 173.51999999999998, "text": " and I can put the money saved towards other lenses and accessories. It can be purchased with an" }, { "start": 173.51999999999998, "end": 179.11999999999998, "text": " optional 28-75mm zoom lens for an additional $300. The lens is not particularly bright," }, { "start": 179.11999999999998, "end": 182.56, "text": " and it's pretty slow to focus in dim light, but if you're considering the camera at all," }, { "start": 182.56, "end": 186, "text": " you should probably pick it up just for its versatility. Both cameras shoot well with the" }, { "start": 186, "end": 192.23999999999998, "text": " zoom lens, but they really come alive with a fast prime, such as the 35mm f2.8 or 55mm f1.8." }, { "start": 192.24, "end": 196.08, "text": " Autofocus is much quicker, and the image quality from a prime lens is almost always better than" }, { "start": 196.08, "end": 200.64000000000001, "text": " with a zoom lens. The a7s aren't perfect, and they do succumb to the sum of the trappings of other" }, { "start": 200.64000000000001, "end": 205.52, "text": " mirrorless cameras, namely poor battery life, I tapped it out after only a few hundred shots," }, { "start": 205.52, "end": 210.08, "text": " slow autofocus, and limited lens selection. But you can't ignore the incredible image quality they" }, { "start": 210.08, "end": 214.64000000000001, "text": " offer that has been previously reserved for much larger and more expensive cameras, and can't really" }, { "start": 214.64000000000001, "end": 219.20000000000002, "text": " be touched by any other compact mirrorless camera on the market. With the a7s, Sony's managed to" }, { "start": 219.2, "end": 223.51999999999998, "text": " defy expectations when it comes to the laws of physics, and what you can expect from a compact" }, { "start": 223.51999999999998, "end": 227.44, "text": " camera. It's clear that Sony thinks this is the future of photography, and there's a good chance" }, { "start": 227.44, "end": 232.72, "text": " that in a few years, the big bulky DSLRs of today will be mere relics of the past, and limited to" }, { "start": 232.72, "end": 249.68, "text": " very specific specialties. It's a taste of tomorrow's photography that you can get today." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 2.84, "text": " It's Friday, December 13, 2013." }, { "start": 2.84, "end": 5.68, "text": " I'm Nathan Seidkret, and come at me, bad luck." }, { "start": 5.68, "end": 7, "text": " This is 90 Seconds on the Verge." }, { "start": 10.040000000000001, "end": 11.8, "text": " Oculus Rift, the Kickstarter phenomenon" }, { "start": 11.8, "end": 13.64, "text": " building a virtual reality headset," }, { "start": 13.64, "end": 16.44, "text": " just raised $75 million in additional funding." }, { "start": 16.44, "end": 18.04, "text": " That money will go towards mass producing" }, { "start": 18.04, "end": 19.740000000000002, "text": " a consumer version of the headgear, which" }, { "start": 19.740000000000002, "end": 21.84, "text": " will have a higher resolution, lower latency," }, { "start": 21.84, "end": 23.8, "text": " and effectively eliminate the motion blur seen" }, { "start": 23.8, "end": 24.68, "text": " in the developer's kit." }, { "start": 24.68, "end": 26.560000000000002, "text": " It's a momentous time for Oculus." }, { "start": 26.560000000000002, "end": 28.84, "text": " Just last month, gaming legend John Carmack" }, { "start": 28.84, "end": 31.08, "text": " left id Software, the company he founded," }, { "start": 31.08, "end": 32.96, "text": " to work with Oculus full time." }, { "start": 32.96, "end": 36.12, "text": " There's one interaction Twitter can't mute, backlash." }, { "start": 36.12, "end": 37.72, "text": " Hours after the company made changes" }, { "start": 37.72, "end": 39.76, "text": " to its blocking functionality, Twitter" }, { "start": 39.76, "end": 41.480000000000004, "text": " has reverted back to its old ways." }, { "start": 41.480000000000004, "end": 43.36, "text": " The changes turned the ability to block trolls" }, { "start": 43.36, "end": 45.8, "text": " into a glorified mute switch, giving the blocked user" }, { "start": 45.8, "end": 47.18, "text": " far more access." }, { "start": 47.18, "end": 49.04, "text": " Many users became angry over the change," }, { "start": 49.04, "end": 51.28, "text": " calling it a step backwards in privacy." }, { "start": 51.28, "end": 53.92, "text": " Twitter says the move was to curb retaliation from users" }, { "start": 53.92, "end": 55.28, "text": " who discovered they were blocked." }, { "start": 55.28, "end": 57.84, "text": " And finally, we've had the Brat Pack on the Fantastic Four," }, { "start": 57.84, "end": 60.64, "text": " but now the Sinister Six will be coming to the big screen." }, { "start": 60.64, "end": 62.720000000000006, "text": " Sony Pictures has announced three new films" }, { "start": 62.720000000000006, "end": 65.36, "text": " in the Spider-Man franchise, The Amazing Spider-Man 3," }, { "start": 65.36, "end": 67.80000000000001, "text": " a Venom movie, and a film featuring super villain" }, { "start": 67.80000000000001, "end": 69.32000000000001, "text": " group, The Sinister Six." }, { "start": 69.32000000000001, "end": 72.08, "text": " It's a move that clearly mirrors Marvel's cinematic universe." }, { "start": 72.08, "end": 74.76, "text": " Sony even hired longtime Joss Whedon collaborator Drew" }, { "start": 74.76, "end": 77.52000000000001, "text": " Goddard, who will write and possibly direct The Sinister" }, { "start": 77.52000000000001, "end": 78.24000000000001, "text": " Six." }, { "start": 78.24000000000001, "end": 79.82000000000001, "text": " And that's it for today's top stories." }, { "start": 79.82000000000001, "end": 82.4, "text": " Coming up tomorrow, I release my own secret album." }, { "start": 82.4, "end": 87.04, "text": " It's called Nathan Sykert's Fun Time Jam-fury." }, { "start": 87.04, "end": 89.72000000000001, "text": " See, fiancé's aren't that special." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 26.12, "text": " Oh, hello. And welcome to The Vergecast. Was my audio on there? I don't think it was. Hi." }, { "start": 26.12, "end": 30.32, "text": " And welcome to The Vergecast for the week of December 9th, 2013. I'm Josh Topolsky." }, { "start": 30.32, "end": 34.64, "text": " I'm Paul Miller. I'm Neelay Patel. And I'm Dieter Bohn. Whoa. That's right. We've stepped" }, { "start": 34.64, "end": 39.04, "text": " into the bone zone. We brought you into the bone zone. Or have we brought the bone zone" }, { "start": 39.04, "end": 44.36, "text": " into The Vergecast to the viewer? Into you. Into you. The bone zone has been brought into" }, { "start": 44.36, "end": 51.84, "text": " you. And I think Paul, you know, you're supposed to be the good person. The good person? I'm" }, { "start": 51.84, "end": 58, "text": " Paul Miller. The good person. The good person. A new spinoff from The Good Wife on CES. That's" }, { "start": 58, "end": 63.760000000000005, "text": " a good like three episode series canceled by ABC. The good person. The good person." }, { "start": 63.760000000000005, "end": 69.68, "text": " He can't do wrong. It's like, no, where's the conflict? This is always helping people." }, { "start": 69.68, "end": 73.36, "text": " Okay. Anyhow, this is The Vergecast where we discuss things. What's the point of me" }, { "start": 73.36, "end": 78.60000000000001, "text": " even telling you? You know why you're here. You know what we're doing. You know what we're" }, { "start": 78.6, "end": 83.75999999999999, "text": " going to do to you. Yeah. So just, just sit back. You know what you're going to get. No," }, { "start": 83.75999999999999, "end": 87.47999999999999, "text": " I said, you know what we're going to do to you. It's like a half threat. You know what" }, { "start": 87.47999999999999, "end": 89.47999999999999, "text": " you're going to get. You know what you're going to get. And you know how we're going" }, { "start": 89.47999999999999, "end": 93.16, "text": " to do it. You're asking for it. You're asking for it and we're giving it to you because" }, { "start": 93.16, "end": 98.28, "text": " you tuned into The Vergecast. Anyhow, we got a lot to talk about. Exciting week. We just" }, { "start": 98.28, "end": 104.24, "text": " had a very exciting big day. Yeah. We did some stuff. Other people did stuff. Paul Miller" }, { "start": 104.24, "end": 110.11999999999999, "text": " did only good all day. What is going on? You know what? I kind of like my hair. It's pretty" }, { "start": 110.11999999999999, "end": 113.88, "text": " good. It's good. Very nice today. All right, Deer, tell me about Instagram. Let's just" }, { "start": 113.88, "end": 117.64, "text": " start with the big news. There's an Instagram event today. Yes. I paid half attention to" }, { "start": 117.64, "end": 122.39999999999999, "text": " it. I believe that it's evidence of Instagram losing its way, but you disagree. Tell me." }, { "start": 122.39999999999999, "end": 127.56, "text": " It's the exact opposite. All right. Tell me what happened. So Instagram had an event and" }, { "start": 127.56, "end": 134.22, "text": " they, Kevin's sister got up and looked very sad and was very quiet. And I work for my" }, { "start": 134.22, "end": 138.76, "text": " Mark Zuckerberg now. It was the terrible decision that I made. And so it's Instagram direct." }, { "start": 138.76, "end": 144.76, "text": " So you can send pictures privately to up to 15 people at a time and they get the picture" }, { "start": 144.76, "end": 148.4, "text": " in a little inbox and then they can tap on the picture and they can like the picture" }, { "start": 148.4, "end": 151.8, "text": " and then they can comment on the picture. I feel like we're on every service is now" }, { "start": 151.8, "end": 156.24, "text": " there's been this talk where Twitter is going to do a break off their direct messages as" }, { "start": 156.24, "end": 160.52, "text": " a separate app. And you know, Facebook has its messaging app. It's a separate app. But" }, { "start": 160.52, "end": 163.76, "text": " I feel like that's a little different, but this one in direct messaging, I feel like" }, { "start": 163.76, "end": 170.64, "text": " we're just slowly moving towards email. Yeah. You can, you can send a message to anyone" }, { "start": 170.64, "end": 175.66, "text": " you want. You can include pictures or text. Like you can include several other people" }, { "start": 175.66, "end": 181.44, "text": " on the message. Like, wow, you made email for your app. Like that's what you can't reply" }, { "start": 181.44, "end": 186.32, "text": " with the picture. Right. Anyway. Right. No, but that's the atomic unit of Instagram is" }, { "start": 186.32, "end": 193.12, "text": " the photo. So when you get a picture, you reply and the video, the photo or the 15 second" }, { "start": 193.12, "end": 197.76, "text": " video, I think it's pretty obvious what this is, right? This is pretty unabashedly a response" }, { "start": 197.76, "end": 204.16, "text": " to the dominance of Snapchat. So they, they, they stole like unabashedly the interface" }, { "start": 204.16, "end": 209.88, "text": " for sending from Snapchat. It's the same list of people. The best interface. That's not" }, { "start": 209.88, "end": 216.6, "text": " a total trash. You can't send a group. It's like, look, Snapchat is like, no, that's great." }, { "start": 216.6, "end": 220.88, "text": " And then the, I want to send it to some people like Snapchat is designed to be used by drunk" }, { "start": 220.88, "end": 227.2, "text": " people. And then they made an interface that is impossible for drunk people. You're literally" }, { "start": 227.2, "end": 233.29999999999998, "text": " screaming about this. I mean, it's a free app. You don't have to use. I love it. So" }, { "start": 233.29999999999998, "end": 239.32, "text": " here's the thing. This is Instagram losing their way because it's not really a messaging" }, { "start": 239.32, "end": 242.51999999999998, "text": " platform. I don't want to eat too much into something that Ellis Hamburger, who was at" }, { "start": 242.51999999999998, "end": 247.32, "text": " the event with me today has to say about it, but they didn't say it's like messaging. You" }, { "start": 247.32, "end": 251.6, "text": " don't message with Instagram. You sent a photo to a smaller number of people. Would you call" }, { "start": 251.6, "end": 258.44, "text": " that a message? Well, I think, I think, but it's 15, but it's a maximum of 15. It's ultimately" }, { "start": 258.44, "end": 262.15999999999997, "text": " supposed to be like, I think this is ultimately sort of geared towards one to one or like" }, { "start": 262.15999999999997, "end": 269.84, "text": " you want to share with your closest friend. It's Snapchat, but without the trip to the" }, { "start": 269.84, "end": 275.12, "text": " cat skills stayed in a cabin with some friends. We almost got murdered by serial killer. No," }, { "start": 275.12, "end": 281.92, "text": " you didn't. That didn't happen. But we, but like, I did not Instagram anything. My, my" }, { "start": 281.92, "end": 286.36, "text": " phone was dead most of the time, but everybody else somehow had reception. And I think probably" }, { "start": 286.36, "end": 292.98, "text": " that trip generated like, like 5,000 photos on Instagram and every, all of our mutual" }, { "start": 292.98, "end": 296.84000000000003, "text": " friends that didn't go to the cabin trip just hated us afterwards. Like, please stop" }, { "start": 296.84000000000003, "end": 300.04, "text": " reminding us that you're in the cat skills, having a great time and it snowed and you" }, { "start": 300.04, "end": 304.36, "text": " made a fire. You have weird friends. And are we in that group?" }, { "start": 304.36, "end": 309.92, "text": " Well, if that was like a private little Instagram group, that would be great. That makes sense." }, { "start": 309.92, "end": 316.88, "text": " That's a perfect sort of scenario. But here's a question. Let me just ask you, those photos" }, { "start": 316.88, "end": 323.56, "text": " for those people each time and they'll improve it. What's your question? I mean, why would" }, { "start": 323.56, "end": 326.76, "text": " you want to share photos of where you are with people who are there with you in real" }, { "start": 326.76, "end": 330.76, "text": " time? Great point. Can you turn my earpiece down a little bit? I'm just like, I think" }, { "start": 330.76, "end": 334.84, "text": " of Instagram is like, here's where I am. I'm communicating to people who aren't, there" }, { "start": 334.84, "end": 338.24, "text": " wasn't half that did that very loud flock made by the people who made bump before they" }, { "start": 338.24, "end": 343.76, "text": " got bought and it did not do everything. Remember the color is now what color did. No color" }, { "start": 343.76, "end": 346.48, "text": " was, I don't know what that was. You can take pictures all together and then like check" }, { "start": 346.48, "end": 351.28, "text": " out all the pictures from the same scene. I think we kind of, I mean, that's what we" }, { "start": 351.28, "end": 356.24, "text": " used to do with like, like Facebook. I remember like five years ago you'd go to a party and" }, { "start": 356.24, "end": 359.84, "text": " then you get home and after everybody had time to plug in their digital cameras and" }, { "start": 359.84, "end": 363.15999999999997, "text": " download everything. Your own Facebook is awesome. When everyone I knew was a girl in" }, { "start": 363.15999999999997, "end": 368.71999999999997, "text": " college. Now Facebook is full of everyone I know having babies and I can't wait for" }, { "start": 368.71999999999997, "end": 377.58, "text": " this babies to grow up. Yeah. So let me say this about the Instagram direct is it's really" }, { "start": 377.58, "end": 382.28, "text": " Instagram me. Okay. Which you mean because it's house within the Instagram identity." }, { "start": 382.28, "end": 386.15999999999997, "text": " They actually, they could have done like a straight private group messaging app thing," }, { "start": 386.15999999999997, "end": 389.15999999999997, "text": " but they didn't do that. They made something that feels like Instagram and I don't know" }, { "start": 389.16, "end": 394, "text": " if it's going to succeed, but at least they managed to make it like Instagram. They kept" }, { "start": 394, "end": 399.28000000000003, "text": " the atomic unit. What you share here, the big secret to why Twitter was successful was" }, { "start": 399.28000000000003, "end": 402.6, "text": " they looked at what their users were doing on Twitter and they built that into the service." }, { "start": 402.6, "end": 406.68, "text": " So they were like, users are retweeting and they like built retweets in the service, right?" }, { "start": 406.68, "end": 410.84000000000003, "text": " Like users are like, they're, um, they're at replying to each other. So they built at" }, { "start": 410.84000000000003, "end": 414.84000000000003, "text": " replies in the service. Nothing about what Instagram just did has anything to do with" }, { "start": 414.84, "end": 420.32, "text": " how users want users are, you know what people want to do? You know, I want to do, they want" }, { "start": 420.32, "end": 423.88, "text": " to regret, regret. They want to take pictures in a grid, which I see all the time. Like," }, { "start": 423.88, "end": 427.52, "text": " wow, that's great. I wish I knew how to do like the four up. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know." }, { "start": 427.52, "end": 430.52, "text": " Do you have an app to do that? There's an app that does it for everybody. There's a" }, { "start": 430.52, "end": 434.35999999999996, "text": " thousand apps to do it. Yeah. But then you gotta go like process it. Look, you could" }, { "start": 434.35999999999996, "end": 438.79999999999995, "text": " take a picture of a Paul Bunyan and then you can send it to your Paul Bunyan. This is a" }, { "start": 438.8, "end": 444.92, "text": " terrible UI by the way, with the letters on the side, red flannel shirt. I'm just saying" }, { "start": 444.92, "end": 450.64, "text": " huge guy. That's a huge, not the proper Brainerd Paul. And he doesn't have his ox. Garbage" }, { "start": 450.64, "end": 455.64, "text": " Paul Bunyan. Well, what are you going to do? Look, the proper Paul Bunyan, these guys are" }, { "start": 455.64, "end": 460.68, "text": " being held. You know what? I'm just seeing a young people having fun. You know what?" }, { "start": 460.68, "end": 465.6, "text": " What about let's see some old people in a old folks home in a wheelchair. Guys, we're" }, { "start": 465.6, "end": 472.12, "text": " eating ice cream. Yeah. I mean, this is great. And trash garbage. I don't understand this." }, { "start": 472.12, "end": 476.92, "text": " Like I don't walk on the hood of my car. I get that is a piece of cars. That is a gremlin" }, { "start": 476.92, "end": 482.08000000000004, "text": " though. Yeah. Yeah. So I think it's a gremlin that's made for a gram. Can I get a confirmation?" }, { "start": 482.08000000000004, "end": 488.32000000000005, "text": " Anyhow, so listen, I think this is, this is a, I do, I will agree with Dieter. Uh, uh," }, { "start": 488.32000000000005, "end": 492.04, "text": " I don't want it's Snapchat that doesn't go away. I get what they're doing, but also," }, { "start": 492.04, "end": 496.68, "text": " but also there is this element to what Paul is saying. I think that you do have like this." }, { "start": 496.68, "end": 500.20000000000005, "text": " Here you are camping with your friends. Paul. It's all about like, yeah, buddies. Yeah." }, { "start": 500.20000000000005, "end": 503.76000000000005, "text": " Buddies hanging out. And I do think it feels very, I'll say what it feels like is a very" }, { "start": 503.76000000000005, "end": 508.6, "text": " Facebook kind of feature owned by Facebook. That's what I'm saying. I mean, you're gonna" }, { "start": 508.6, "end": 511.88, "text": " complain about people that don't know what they want to be. Complain about Facebook and" }, { "start": 511.88, "end": 517.28, "text": " Twitter. No, I think I told her nose. Oh my God. We're going to talk about the Twitter." }, { "start": 517.28, "end": 521.6800000000001, "text": " Yeah. We can. Should we talk about it now? Yeah. Go ahead. Okay. Whatever. Speaking of" }, { "start": 521.68, "end": 528.0799999999999, "text": " app updates. I'm just going to update real quick. No, it's on Android. But you don't" }, { "start": 528.0799999999999, "end": 533.8, "text": " know. There's a Mac update too, right? Oh, I don't know. I don't use the Mac app. So" }, { "start": 533.8, "end": 535.92, "text": " I wouldn't know anything about it. Well, I'm about to find out. I use, what do you mean?" }, { "start": 535.92, "end": 539.88, "text": " I use tweet bot for Twitter. What do you, what do you, on the Mac? I use tweet bot." }, { "start": 539.88, "end": 544.92, "text": " What do you mean? It's great. Yeah. It was $20. Yeah. It was insane. It was well, but" }, { "start": 544.92, "end": 549.7199999999999, "text": " for 20 bucks you get a lot if you care about Twitter, which I do deeply, which is why I" }, { "start": 549.72, "end": 554.28, "text": " was so disappointed. My God. Segway, which is why I was so deeply disappointed when I" }, { "start": 554.28, "end": 559.6, "text": " updated my Twitter app on my Android phone only to discover, by the way, uh, Android," }, { "start": 559.6, "end": 565.28, "text": " big market, not a small market. Android? Big market. Yeah. A lot of users and believe it" }, { "start": 565.28, "end": 570.9200000000001, "text": " or not, a lot of them using the Twitter app. Uh, what they've redesigned the Twitter app" }, { "start": 570.9200000000001, "end": 577.4, "text": " and they have removed the notification, like the me, the at replies and the somebody favorited" }, { "start": 577.4, "end": 581.84, "text": " or somebody retweeted you. They have removed that completely from the main navigation." }, { "start": 581.84, "end": 586.68, "text": " No, it's there. No, it's been removed from the core navigation. It's now a part of a" }, { "start": 586.68, "end": 594.8, "text": " secondary navigation, which encompasses your direct messages, like some other weird thing." }, { "start": 594.8, "end": 599.84, "text": " Add a friend, add a friend, find a friend. And now this, so the notifications, it's not" }, { "start": 599.84, "end": 604.48, "text": " a tab. It's a new panel that you can't, like you can't do basic things that you could do" }, { "start": 604.48, "end": 609.1, "text": " in the app. Like on the app, you could normally hit the, if you're in the notification tab," }, { "start": 609.1, "end": 612.54, "text": " you can hit it and it'll scroll all the way up to the top, like auto scrolls to the top." }, { "start": 612.54, "end": 615.4, "text": " You can now no longer do that. You have to hand scroll all the way up. It's completely" }, { "start": 615.4, "end": 620.12, "text": " abstracted from your timelines, like completely abstracted from your flow of information." }, { "start": 620.12, "end": 625.08, "text": " And uh, and it sucks to use. It sucks so bad that I took the timeout, which I've never" }, { "start": 625.08, "end": 629.84, "text": " done before ever. And I gave this a one star review on the play store and just said like" }, { "start": 629.84, "end": 634.44, "text": " this, this update is garbage because it completely ruins the way the app works. If you care about" }, { "start": 634.44, "end": 639.6400000000001, "text": " people talking to you, it makes it that that's like a secondary activity that like you're" }, { "start": 639.6400000000001, "end": 643.84, "text": " not interested in like a secondary activity. I suspect by the way that for most Twitter" }, { "start": 643.84, "end": 647.7600000000001, "text": " users that is a secondary. Well, I don't know, but I can tell you that that on the iOS app," }, { "start": 647.7600000000001, "end": 654.6800000000001, "text": " they'd use a completely different UI combination where they kept that in the main navigation." }, { "start": 654.6800000000001, "end": 662.96, "text": " This update is what, 24 hours old. I'm using Twitter less already. I'm avoiding it. I mean," }, { "start": 662.96, "end": 668.4000000000001, "text": " they switched to Instagram. What they've, what they've replaced it with is a home discover" }, { "start": 668.4000000000001, "end": 672.88, "text": " and activity. You can figure out how to write a message on that stuff on the iOS app, which" }, { "start": 672.88, "end": 675.6, "text": " by the way, the iOS app does it right. They've got the tabs at the bottom and you can just" }, { "start": 675.6, "end": 678.32, "text": " tap on them. There's a super here's thing. There's a really simple solution for this." }, { "start": 678.32, "end": 686.0400000000001, "text": " Let me show you what's going on here. Here's what I wanted. Here's it is a mess. It's got" }, { "start": 686.0400000000001, "end": 690.24, "text": " you have these two things of navigation. Like I don't know if you guys can see this. The" }, { "start": 690.24, "end": 694.6800000000001, "text": " bell is your notifications, but like you can't swipe between here. It used to be here, right?" }, { "start": 694.6800000000001, "end": 698.24, "text": " So you were always to Jordan. Okay. Here is that a main navigation. It's just sitting" }, { "start": 698.24, "end": 701.6800000000001, "text": " there at the top. I consider that to be secondary navigation in this app because it's the main" }, { "start": 701.6800000000001, "end": 705.24, "text": " navigation, the main navigation of these three columns. I want you to walk us through this" }, { "start": 705.24, "end": 713.72, "text": " from step one. Can I get my brightness down, John? Yeah. Let me, let me quickly just change" }, { "start": 713.72, "end": 718.62, "text": " the brightness here for you. Uh, hold on a sec. Let's all, well, but he wants me to bring" }, { "start": 718.62, "end": 722.88, "text": " it down so that it's a, is this better for you, John? Is that more, is that, does that" }, { "start": 722.88, "end": 728.24, "text": " play better on screen? Okay. So, so here you have, you hear, you have your main navigation." }, { "start": 728.24, "end": 732.24, "text": " This is your timeline with all the people you follow and then discover now discover." }, { "start": 732.24, "end": 736.64, "text": " I don't know what discover is, but I can tell you what it feels like. The garbage, what" }, { "start": 736.64, "end": 740.84, "text": " it feels like to me is a pile of bullshit. Yeah. It feels like a complete useless pile" }, { "start": 740.84, "end": 744.6, "text": " of garbage that they're trying to foist on me. Discover it. They're trying to like, please," }, { "start": 744.6, "end": 749, "text": " please increase engagement. Yeah. It's like, it's like, Oh, um, this guy, can I interrupt?" }, { "start": 749, "end": 751.78, "text": " Can I just interrupt the entire verge cast for one minute? You go to your phone call." }, { "start": 751.78, "end": 756.88, "text": " I get this phone call three times a day. It's, it's, it's from, it's, it's for hello. We" }, { "start": 756.88, "end": 766.88, "text": " are calling regarding an important business matter for Dwayne Peel. Dwayne Peel. Dwayne" }, { "start": 766.88, "end": 772.36, "text": " Peel. Turn that off. Dwayne Peel. If you're out there, it's just if you are Dwayne, press" }, { "start": 772.36, "end": 777.82, "text": " one, but I'm never Dwayne. Dwayne Peel. If you are out there, you need to address this" }, { "start": 777.82, "end": 781.96, "text": " important business matter. Okay. So look, so look, so then there's discover, which is" }, { "start": 781.96, "end": 787.72, "text": " right back into discover, which, which I guess this is stuff Twitter things I'm going to" }, { "start": 787.72, "end": 792.32, "text": " like like these cool trending topics up here, including the sponsored, sponsored training" }, { "start": 792.32, "end": 797.84, "text": " topic. Football's coming by the way, with no apostrophe. What that means is football's" }, { "start": 797.84, "end": 802.44, "text": " the object coming, right? Like they're here, they like they're on their way. When you search" }, { "start": 802.44, "end": 806.2800000000001, "text": " for verge 50 right now, the sponsored tweet, uh, for some reason it's from the AARP. Okay." }, { "start": 806.2800000000001, "end": 814.52, "text": " That's amazing. By the way, this is the same UI in the audience. And then, and then, and" }, { "start": 814.52, "end": 822, "text": " then my third column, thank God they put something useful in activity, which is more shit. Yeah." }, { "start": 822, "end": 827.32, "text": " Vague like stuff that Twitter decided I wanted to see in some organization they thought I" }, { "start": 827.32, "end": 832.5200000000001, "text": " wanted to see. And then up here, there's some, there's a bell. That's my, oh, my app replies." }, { "start": 832.5200000000001, "end": 838, "text": " Great. Now look, I'm taking my regular navigation has disappeared from the app. There is no" }, { "start": 838, "end": 842.9200000000001, "text": " columns. The columns are gone. Okay. Oh, let me go back here to this. Then there's this," }, { "start": 842.9200000000001, "end": 846.0400000000001, "text": " oh, it's my direct message. You can't see it, but the next one's direct messages. So" }, { "start": 846.0400000000001, "end": 849.4000000000001, "text": " I don't even want you to look at that. Then there's this plus add a friend. You know," }, { "start": 849.4000000000001, "end": 856.9200000000001, "text": " often I add somebody on Twitter, like once every two weeks. So the search. Yeah." }, { "start": 856.92, "end": 862.24, "text": " And then this secondary menu, I guess what's the third, it's the third menu where I have" }, { "start": 862.24, "end": 868.68, "text": " my account management tools, my overflow menu. And, and, and what's your, what's your, what's" }, { "start": 868.68, "end": 873.8, "text": " your phone's big enough, Josh, you can hold. Here's all they have to do to fix this. Let" }, { "start": 873.8, "end": 881.76, "text": " me, let me, let me long press on the discover tab and just say, show, discover, show notifications," }, { "start": 881.76, "end": 885.5999999999999, "text": " show whatever. Let me choose what's on the second tab. I will show if you put the camera," }, { "start": 885.6, "end": 891.48, "text": " I will show you exactly. Mr. Mr. Cristolo Dick. Can I call you Dick? Hey, Dick, let's" }, { "start": 891.48, "end": 899.6800000000001, "text": " call you Dick. This is an Android phone. They're bigger than iPhones. Don't put the navigation" }, { "start": 899.6800000000001, "end": 904.84, "text": " that we need up here at the top and make them tiny. Just do what you did on the iPhone." }, { "start": 904.84, "end": 910.12, "text": " Yeah. Literally here. Literally fine. Here's your opportunity to not have to like workshop" }, { "start": 910.12, "end": 914.96, "text": " both of these. I know you're desperate. You're completely desperate to increase engagement" }, { "start": 914.96, "end": 918.72, "text": " from new users on Twitter and trying to get them to follow more people. If I had to be" }, { "start": 918.72, "end": 921.4000000000001, "text": " cynical, that's what I would say. You don't have to be cynical. That's the truth. And" }, { "start": 921.4000000000001, "end": 925.24, "text": " I know that you think that people on Android are like dumb newbies who don't understand" }, { "start": 925.24, "end": 929.88, "text": " how to use Twitter. So you've got to like throw this crap in their face, but you don't." }, { "start": 929.88, "end": 934.4000000000001, "text": " And if you really feel like you must give us an option to get the other UI because the" }, { "start": 934.4000000000001, "end": 938.9200000000001, "text": " way you've killed the third party app ecosystem, there's like, I can't get the features that" }, { "start": 938.9200000000001, "end": 944.44, "text": " I need from Twitter. I mean, there's the reason I had to spend $20 on tweet. The reason I" }, { "start": 944.44, "end": 949.0400000000001, "text": " had to spend $20 on tweet bot, by the way, on that point, the third party app ecosystem," }, { "start": 949.0400000000001, "end": 952.44, "text": " like the reason tweet bot is $20 because they basically want to keep it, the numbers of" }, { "start": 952.44, "end": 956.96, "text": " people trying to use it down because they can't like off people for their app. It's" }, { "start": 956.96, "end": 961.6400000000001, "text": " like, I don't know. I know we're not important. I know we're just like, I got reviewers of" }, { "start": 961.6400000000001, "end": 966.9000000000001, "text": " technology and influencers and early adopters. I know that's not important to Twitter anymore," }, { "start": 966.9000000000001, "end": 971.7, "text": " but let's just call it, let's just call what it is. The apps badly designed, like whether" }, { "start": 971.7, "end": 978.0400000000001, "text": " or not you guys think it's increasing engagement, it is like a bad flow to use the app. It just" }, { "start": 978.0400000000001, "end": 979.0400000000001, "text": " doesn't feel natural." }, { "start": 979.0400000000001, "end": 983.76, "text": " So I got a tip for you guys for, for Android users out here, out there, but this is the" }, { "start": 983.76, "end": 988.76, "text": " LG flex by the way. It's very exciting. So what in first person shooters, you there's" }, { "start": 988.76, "end": 994.32, "text": " the typical like two thumb stick arrangement and then you use this thumb to like hit the" }, { "start": 994.32, "end": 999.84, "text": " X and a button and stuff like that. But there's also something called the claw grip where" }, { "start": 999.84, "end": 1005.76, "text": " you hook, hook this index finger over the top. You use this finger as your, as your" }, { "start": 1005.76, "end": 1010.72, "text": " trigger finger. So that way you've got this free to hit the face buttons and you still" }, { "start": 1010.72, "end": 1016.32, "text": " have your thumb always on the thumb stick. So I'm just saying, if you got your buttons" }, { "start": 1016.32, "end": 1021.6600000000001, "text": " across the top, you use the claw grip, you get into the claw grip and you're just switching" }, { "start": 1021.6600000000001, "end": 1022.6600000000001, "text": " through those things." }, { "start": 1022.6600000000001, "end": 1025.68, "text": " I'll be honest with you. I'm less upset about the buttons across the top than I am about" }, { "start": 1025.68, "end": 1030.24, "text": " the, thank you for the demonstration of the claw grip. I'm less worried about the buttons" }, { "start": 1030.24, "end": 1034.68, "text": " at the top than I am about like the complete failure of like making a sensible UI." }, { "start": 1034.68, "end": 1041.5600000000002, "text": " You know what the word discover reminds me of? Multimedia PC or just the general buzzword." }, { "start": 1041.5600000000002, "end": 1042.5600000000002, "text": " The compact discover." }, { "start": 1042.5600000000002, "end": 1048.16, "text": " Yeah. Yeah. It's the compact discover. It's just like, so it's, it's this big idea." }, { "start": 1048.16, "end": 1050.16, "text": " Twitter made the compact of red." }, { "start": 1050.16, "end": 1053.6000000000001, "text": " It's funny because here's the thing, Twitter, at the same time they did all this other crap," }, { "start": 1053.6, "end": 1059.04, "text": " they added like photos and direct messages, two days before Instagram and they added this" }, { "start": 1059.04, "end": 1063.52, "text": " like timeline and swipey thing on the iPhone app. By the way, automatic app updates on" }, { "start": 1063.52, "end": 1068.6399999999999, "text": " the iPhone combined with iOS 7 is such like a nightmare of waking up and seeing that an" }, { "start": 1068.6399999999999, "end": 1070.8, "text": " app is radically changed overnight." }, { "start": 1070.8, "end": 1076.1999999999998, "text": " That's the problem with automatic updates is that you, like if we lived in a world where" }, { "start": 1076.1999999999998, "end": 1081.6399999999999, "text": " app where changes were not like simply feature creep and people trying to like monetize their" }, { "start": 1081.64, "end": 1086.8400000000001, "text": " crap better and were actually made for users, like that would be okay. But in a world where" }, { "start": 1086.8400000000001, "end": 1090.96, "text": " it is just like endless iterations to try to figure out how to scam your users into" }, { "start": 1090.96, "end": 1096.44, "text": " looking at ads, um, like, because that's what Twitter is doing. Make no mistake about it." }, { "start": 1096.44, "end": 1100.8400000000001, "text": " They want more users looking at more ads, full stop. And the way they're doing it is" }, { "start": 1100.8400000000001, "end": 1106.2800000000002, "text": " by they're taking the things that you value out of your direct line of fire and putting" }, { "start": 1106.2800000000002, "end": 1107.2800000000002, "text": " garbage in it." }, { "start": 1107.2800000000002, "end": 1111.6200000000001, "text": " So here's my cynical thing. It's highly, highly deceptive. And this is, it's super cynical," }, { "start": 1111.62, "end": 1116.36, "text": " but it's, um, if you're Twitter and you're desperately trying to get regular people to" }, { "start": 1116.36, "end": 1122.7199999999998, "text": " engage with Twitter more, you say to yourself, well, look at our usage stats on Android." }, { "start": 1122.7199999999998, "end": 1127, "text": " It's a different demographic. All those low end Android phones, uh, will make this app" }, { "start": 1127, "end": 1131.6599999999999, "text": " dumber so that people can open it and like Twitter is doing shit for them without them" }, { "start": 1131.6599999999999, "end": 1135.8, "text": " asking them to do it. And that's why the apps are diverging. And that's ridiculous." }, { "start": 1135.8, "end": 1139.7199999999998, "text": " This is an important contrast between the way Instagram is approaching this and then" }, { "start": 1139.72, "end": 1143.68, "text": " like Twitter and Facebook, just the, I know the Instagram is Facebook, but just that like" }, { "start": 1143.68, "end": 1148.2, "text": " Instagram is saying, we know how you already want to use this. Here's also another way" }, { "start": 1148.2, "end": 1149.2, "text": " to use this." }, { "start": 1149.2, "end": 1150.2, "text": " No, that was my whole argument." }, { "start": 1150.2, "end": 1151.2, "text": " No, no, that's correct." }, { "start": 1151.2, "end": 1152.2, "text": " But they're not doing the thing." }, { "start": 1152.2, "end": 1153.2, "text": " You called it." }, { "start": 1153.2, "end": 1154.2, "text": " Like the spot on." }, { "start": 1154.2, "end": 1157.56, "text": " Guys, don't, don't agree so angrily." }, { "start": 1157.56, "end": 1162.14, "text": " Yeah, but the difference is like Instagram isn't giving you what you want. Twitter is" }, { "start": 1162.14, "end": 1163.88, "text": " actively taking it away." }, { "start": 1163.88, "end": 1167.56, "text": " They're trying to, they're trying to read instead of giving you another random feature" }, { "start": 1167.56, "end": 1172.1599999999999, "text": " that might actually blow it or whatever, but they're trying to reflow how you use it." }, { "start": 1172.1599999999999, "end": 1176.74, "text": " To your point about the, you know, all these low end phones and you know, there's a bigger" }, { "start": 1176.74, "end": 1180.72, "text": " audience or whatever. Like I actually find that like a lot of our uses of things tend" }, { "start": 1180.72, "end": 1186.32, "text": " to bubble up from the mainstream, not from like the, you know, the elite or whatever." }, { "start": 1186.32, "end": 1191.44, "text": " Yeah. And like, so the idea that like as more people get it, like the idea that you'd have" }, { "start": 1191.44, "end": 1195.6, "text": " to dumb it down for them because I actually feel like a lot of Twitter's realest problem," }, { "start": 1195.6, "end": 1200.6799999999998, "text": " but like, like my mom signs up for Twitter and she has to go and follow a hundred interesting" }, { "start": 1200.6799999999998, "end": 1204.36, "text": " people. And that's why the suggested users list was so powerful at the beginning. Like" }, { "start": 1204.36, "end": 1209.48, "text": " they're, they're in a weird world where you can't use Twitter without doing a bunch of" }, { "start": 1209.48, "end": 1210.48, "text": " stuff." }, { "start": 1210.48, "end": 1213.36, "text": " But I think if you look back at the suggested user list, I think you would find that there" }, { "start": 1213.36, "end": 1219.32, "text": " was a lot of, it was a lot of, there were a lot of, there's a lot of garbage on there" }, { "start": 1219.32, "end": 1224.74, "text": " that people ultimately didn't like find utility in. And the things that obviously they found" }, { "start": 1224.74, "end": 1229.4, "text": " utility in like CNN breaking news or whatever was always going to be the thing that people" }, { "start": 1229.4, "end": 1233.44, "text": " gravitated towards as like, Oh, I need to follow that. I'm not sure it helped as much" }, { "start": 1233.44, "end": 1237.24, "text": " as like, well, I don't know that you're giving it much credit, but I'm not sure it helped" }, { "start": 1237.24, "end": 1238.24, "text": " at all." }, { "start": 1238.24, "end": 1240.72, "text": " No, but I'm saying that they've always had this problem where to use Twitter, you have" }, { "start": 1240.72, "end": 1244, "text": " to set it up. Right. And that set up stuff is a problem." }, { "start": 1244, "end": 1247.1200000000001, "text": " It's a classic Twitter problem. It's like I signed up for Twitter and like, I don't" }, { "start": 1247.1200000000001, "end": 1250.84, "text": " know what to do. And it's like, well, you got to use Twitter for like a couple months." }, { "start": 1250.84, "end": 1254.56, "text": " By the way, can I read you the trending topics? Set up process on people that are already" }, { "start": 1254.56, "end": 1260.72, "text": " set up. Sponsored. That's true. Sponsored football's coming football coming. No football." }, { "start": 1260.72, "end": 1265.6, "text": " Oh, it is coming. Football is coming. Football is coming or football is coming. Here's the" }, { "start": 1265.6, "end": 1272.1599999999999, "text": " thing. It's like week 14 of the football season. Football has arrived, promoted by NFL. Next" }, { "start": 1272.1599999999999, "end": 1278.48, "text": " up hashtag pray to end abortion. Oh yeah, that's good. Squarely in my interests. And" }, { "start": 1278.48, "end": 1284.1200000000001, "text": " then second one, the third one. Sorry. I G d m. Yeah. What is that? Instagram dm. Oh my" }, { "start": 1284.1200000000001, "end": 1289.4, "text": " God. Instagram dm is my third training topic. So mission accomplished Twitter. You got me" }, { "start": 1289.4, "end": 1295.88, "text": " talking about a competing service. Um, this is just the worst. I just want to say it just" }, { "start": 1295.88, "end": 1301.6, "text": " the worst. What was it? What's the five words tech nightmare? Five times. I was like yesterday's" }, { "start": 1301.6, "end": 1307.04, "text": " trend. That's all. I just, why is like what the people I follow favorite and retweet given" }, { "start": 1307.04, "end": 1314.36, "text": " more priority than, uh, my notifications and my at replies. Like the thing is we are all" }, { "start": 1314.36, "end": 1321.96, "text": " very egotistical people. We want to know when people talk to us, but nobody talks like I" }, { "start": 1321.96, "end": 1325.36, "text": " don't think regular people use Twitter the way we do. How often like regular people look" }, { "start": 1325.36, "end": 1329.36, "text": " at their own profile pages all the time. Everybody knows that that's why it's one of the first" }, { "start": 1329.36, "end": 1334.02, "text": " options on Facebook. It's why it's a big option on Instagram and it's a very highly used option" }, { "start": 1334.02, "end": 1338.24, "text": " on Twitter. They've buried it here. I mean, I'm literally saying that the same thing applies" }, { "start": 1338.24, "end": 1342.4, "text": " to your notifications. Like people would like that. I mean, I could even go back to Instagram" }, { "start": 1342.4, "end": 1346.28, "text": " direct. Like when I send you a picture, what do I want? I want you to say nice picture." }, { "start": 1346.28, "end": 1350.56, "text": " That's why Instagram. That's why I never do it. Powerful. I'm literally, I'm literally" }, { "start": 1350.56, "end": 1355.08, "text": " like missed entirely what people want out of a Twitter service. I mean, I'm looking" }, { "start": 1355.08, "end": 1358.6, "text": " at things that people I know have favorited. That's what the disc, this is what the discover" }, { "start": 1358.6, "end": 1365.04, "text": " tab is. You know what? I'm interested in finding things to favorite, not necessarily like somebody" }, { "start": 1365.04, "end": 1368.3999999999999, "text": " else's favorites. Like that's not how I think about Twitter, but that's the whole point" }, { "start": 1368.3999999999999, "end": 1375.1599999999999, "text": " of favorites for complaining about this is my most retweeted tweet ever. Six course and" }, { "start": 1375.1599999999999, "end": 1378.56, "text": " use it to heavily. All right. I'm perfect. We have to move on. We've been bitching about" }, { "start": 1378.56, "end": 1381.6, "text": " Twitter and Instagram for a long time now. I'm not bitching about Instagram. I love their" }, { "start": 1381.6, "end": 1386.6799999999998, "text": " changes and I can't wait to use them full time as my only, um, yeah. Snapchat doesn't" }, { "start": 1386.68, "end": 1390.8400000000001, "text": " disappear. I'm happy to say that I'll continue to put more time and effort into my Instagram" }, { "start": 1390.8400000000001, "end": 1395.52, "text": " communications thanks to Twitter's garbage that they've dumped on me. What we need is" }, { "start": 1395.52, "end": 1400.8, "text": " I think every app needs its own direct messaging platforms. We need, we need an, a company," }, { "start": 1400.8, "end": 1405.2, "text": " a separate app for the direct messaging so that each one has a companion app. Right?" }, { "start": 1405.2, "end": 1408.96, "text": " Yeah. Companion app. Right. So it's Twitter and Twitter DM as separate apps. And then" }, { "start": 1408.96, "end": 1415.28, "text": " Instagram DM as separate apps. Facebook, Facebook, DM. And Facebook poke. Poke is separate. My" }, { "start": 1415.28, "end": 1420.92, "text": " god. So Snapchat super DM, which is a dis it just, you don't even see it. It just sends" }, { "start": 1420.92, "end": 1426.2, "text": " you a text description of what was in the DM to DM, which it integrates the app to just" }, { "start": 1426.2, "end": 1432.8, "text": " what about a DM that would, that would aggregate all of your DMS into a single stream. It's" }, { "start": 1432.8, "end": 1441.16, "text": " great. I love it. You know, there is, okay, moving on the verge 50. I just wish my DMS" }, { "start": 1441.16, "end": 1446.48, "text": " had BCC. Speaking of things we love, speaking of things we love the verge 50 we launched" }, { "start": 1446.48, "end": 1453.0400000000002, "text": " the verge 50 today. Here it is. Uh, we spent a lot of time and a lot of energy and we built," }, { "start": 1453.0400000000002, "end": 1457.88, "text": " we have, uh, these beautiful illustrations done. Uh, we built a ranked by the way, in" }, { "start": 1457.88, "end": 1462.22, "text": " case you're wondering a ranked list of the 50 people that we think are really important" }, { "start": 1462.22, "end": 1467.2, "text": " right now that are doing interesting things that are changing things that are, uh, lists" }, { "start": 1467.2, "end": 1470.52, "text": " by the way, not invented by Buzzfeed lists. I think this is something I learned today" }, { "start": 1470.52, "end": 1476.08, "text": " is that modern, the modern media consumer believes that there are only listicles, which" }, { "start": 1476.08, "end": 1482.04, "text": " is like a Buzzfeed list of the 20 most amazing photos you'll ever see. Um, lists actually" }, { "start": 1482.04, "end": 1485.76, "text": " predate what it's interesting. I did a little research today and discovered that making" }, { "start": 1485.76, "end": 1491.12, "text": " numbered lists of things, it turns out predate a Buzzfeed and Upworthy. Yeah. Uh, I don't" }, { "start": 1491.12, "end": 1494.84, "text": " even know if Upworthy does listicles, but I believe that they do, uh, in my heart of" }, { "start": 1494.84, "end": 1501.84, "text": " hearts. Uh, uh, this is not a listicle because crack.com, this is a massive, this is a massively," }, { "start": 1501.84, "end": 1507.4399999999998, "text": " uh, uh, time consuming editorial list that we made and it is numbered and it is ranked." }, { "start": 1507.4399999999998, "end": 1512.36, "text": " Um, but it's also, you know, researched and we had art commissioned for it and we spent" }, { "start": 1512.36, "end": 1516.8799999999999, "text": " an enormous amount of time. Our product team built this amazing responsive app basically" }, { "start": 1516.8799999999999, "end": 1522.6399999999999, "text": " and look at it on a phone and uh, and uh, you know, the goal here was for us to say," }, { "start": 1522.64, "end": 1526.6000000000001, "text": " here's the people that we think are really interested in and really have really, um," }, { "start": 1526.6000000000001, "end": 1531.2800000000002, "text": " moved, moved the ball forward in one way or another. Kanye West, by the way, extremely" }, { "start": 1531.2800000000002, "end": 1536, "text": " controversial, extremely controversial. How could that be controversial? There's no other" }, { "start": 1536, "end": 1542.5600000000002, "text": " controversy as far as, he's a 16, six 15. There's never been a moment where I felt," }, { "start": 1542.5600000000002, "end": 1548.0400000000002, "text": " uh, more disconnected from some of our commenters. Then almost killed the computer, then seen" }, { "start": 1548.04, "end": 1552.68, "text": " almost then seen the, the, the kind of like weird feedback about like, how can you put" }, { "start": 1552.68, "end": 1556.6399999999999, "text": " Kanye on this list? It's like, how could you not put Kanye on the list? Like I get that" }, { "start": 1556.6399999999999, "end": 1559.76, "text": " he's obnoxious. I get that he's annoying. I know, you know, even though he's the Steve" }, { "start": 1559.76, "end": 1566.04, "text": " Jobs of everything, uh, of downtown, well, but also of other things. We have a clip." }, { "start": 1566.04, "end": 1574.1599999999999, "text": " Um, we do. Yeah. It's a Kanye West talking to sway. Oh yeah. Can we, but if you guys" }, { "start": 1574.16, "end": 1578.48, "text": " in there investing in the arts, y'all want to invest in this school in Brazil, y'all" }, { "start": 1578.48, "end": 1584.3200000000002, "text": " want to go to Africa. I'm standing up and I'm telling you, I am Warhol. I am the number" }, { "start": 1584.3200000000002, "end": 1591.3200000000002, "text": " one most impactful artists of our generation. I am Shakespeare in the flesh. Walt Disney," }, { "start": 1591.3200000000002, "end": 1597.96, "text": " Nike, Google. Now who's going to be the Medici family and stand up and let me create more" }, { "start": 1597.96, "end": 1602.5600000000002, "text": " or do you want to marginalize me till I'm out of my moment or why don't you empower" }, { "start": 1602.56, "end": 1608.72, "text": " yourself and don't need them and do it yourself? Take a few steps back to go. You ain't got" }, { "start": 1608.72, "end": 1613.98, "text": " the answers, man. You ain't got the answers. You ain't got the answers. You ain't got the" }, { "start": 1613.98, "end": 1621.8799999999999, "text": " answers sway. I've been doing this morning. You ain't got the answers. You ain't got the" }, { "start": 1621.8799999999999, "end": 1627.3999999999999, "text": " answers. You ain't been doing education. That's what it does. It doesn't have the answers." }, { "start": 1627.4, "end": 1637.3600000000001, "text": " We replaced our entire show, but just Connie West. Can one of us just be called sway for" }, { "start": 1637.3600000000001, "end": 1643.5400000000002, "text": " the rest of the answers? You ain't got the answers. You ain't got the answers. Listen," }, { "start": 1643.5400000000002, "end": 1648.44, "text": " he doesn't sway. Doesn't have the answer. Of all the people I look, Sway's a nice guy." }, { "start": 1648.44, "end": 1652.44, "text": " I'm sure he's a lovely man, but of all the people who might have the answers, he's been" }, { "start": 1652.44, "end": 1659.56, "text": " like V Jane for 25 years. Like he's that hat has never left his head. I don't think he" }, { "start": 1659.56, "end": 1666.78, "text": " has to be a little upset. I will say that shit is crazy. By the way, that is why he's" }, { "start": 1666.78, "end": 1672.8, "text": " on the ver. Like just here's the thing. He is the Shakespeare of describing himself" }, { "start": 1672.8, "end": 1678.6000000000001, "text": " as Shakespeare. He is the Steve Jobs of making like descriptions of himself as Steve Jobs." }, { "start": 1678.6, "end": 1685.6399999999999, "text": " Like he's the most unbelievable seller of Kanye West that has ever existed. So good." }, { "start": 1685.6399999999999, "end": 1692.36, "text": " But here's the thing. Kanye, obviously wildly obnoxious, clearly out of control, like egotistical," }, { "start": 1692.36, "end": 1697.24, "text": " but and this is the, but, and this is why he's on the verge 50. He's also kind of an" }, { "start": 1697.24, "end": 1705.32, "text": " incredible artist. Like he is kind of his, his, his music is, is like so genre defined" }, { "start": 1705.32, "end": 1711, "text": " and so weird and so smart and so out there. Like you can say like the lyrics are shitty." }, { "start": 1711, "end": 1713.84, "text": " Sometimes you can say, I don't like, I'm not feeling what he's doing on his new record," }, { "start": 1713.84, "end": 1718.4399999999998, "text": " which is very dark and very harsh, but it's really hard to look at it and not go, this" }, { "start": 1718.4399999999998, "end": 1722.56, "text": " is really different. This is something special. Like no one's making stuff like this. And" }, { "start": 1722.56, "end": 1726.2, "text": " his whole deal is just like, no one's doing what he's doing. And like a lot of the stuff" }, { "start": 1726.2, "end": 1731, "text": " he did, the installations around the new record and the way he's been performing the performances" }, { "start": 1731, "end": 1735.56, "text": " he's doing and how he's like running stage shows, the whole thing is just, it is wildly" }, { "start": 1735.56, "end": 1738.6, "text": " creative and really interesting. And I get the sense that it does really come from him." }, { "start": 1738.6, "end": 1742.2, "text": " So you can, you can knock him as a being an obnoxious guy, but like some of our greatest," }, { "start": 1742.2, "end": 1747.42, "text": " I mean, Steve Jobs was, you know, you read the book about Steve Jobs and it's like, man," }, { "start": 1747.42, "end": 1752.28, "text": " he sucked to be around. Like he was not a nice guy. He was egotistical. He was temperamental." }, { "start": 1752.28, "end": 1757.2, "text": " He was said crazy things all the time. You know, like he's going to go thermonuclear" }, { "start": 1757.2, "end": 1761.76, "text": " on Google because they, cause the Android is a stolen, you know, whatever. And like," }, { "start": 1761.76, "end": 1768.2, "text": " it's just, you know, people, people at that level are insane. Yeah. They're weird people." }, { "start": 1768.2, "end": 1774.44, "text": " I think I think is interesting is somehow he set himself up to be like impossible to" }, { "start": 1774.44, "end": 1780.04, "text": " ignore. And there's a lot of weird out there pushing boundaries, you know, maybe even like" }, { "start": 1780.04, "end": 1786, "text": " expanding, you know, the world of, you know, like weird art out there that you can really" }, { "start": 1786, "end": 1791.92, "text": " just not care about for your whole life. Can't ignore Kanye. You can't ignore the Shakespeare" }, { "start": 1791.92, "end": 1798.88, "text": " of our generation. He's Warhol. He's Andy Warhol, Shakespeare jobs. Yeah. Um, and I," }, { "start": 1798.88, "end": 1802.36, "text": " and I know my favorite one is the one he described himself with Steve Jobs of downtown. It's" }, { "start": 1802.36, "end": 1805.56, "text": " incredible that that clip I've never seen that clip actually. Amazing. Incredible." }, { "start": 1805.56, "end": 1811.04, "text": " You ain't got the answers. So you ain't got the answers. Poor Sway. Sway is like calm down." }, { "start": 1811.04, "end": 1816.24, "text": " It's like, dude, he's not going to calm down. Kanye is like, he's stuck in a moment. He's" }, { "start": 1816.24, "end": 1819.04, "text": " just, you know, like this ride. But, but, but beyond Kanye, there's a lot of people" }, { "start": 1819.04, "end": 1823.3999999999999, "text": " on this list that I think are really interesting. And I, I really, you know, not just because" }, { "start": 1823.3999999999999, "end": 1827.6399999999999, "text": " I'd like you to look at pages on the verge, but also because we put poured a lot of effort" }, { "start": 1827.6399999999999, "end": 1833.6, "text": " and time and care into talking about thinking about who is on this list, talking about them," }, { "start": 1833.6, "end": 1837.12, "text": " trying to talk about what, why we think they're important, why you should think they're, you" }, { "start": 1837.12, "end": 1841.76, "text": " know, if not think they're important, at least look at them and say, I need to keep my eye" }, { "start": 1841.76, "end": 1846, "text": " on that. And there are, it's like a discover feature and there are, look, and there are" }, { "start": 1846, "end": 1849.28, "text": " people here that are obvious. There are people here that are not obvious. And I think that's" }, { "start": 1849.28, "end": 1853.36, "text": " part of the list is that like some of the things that have happened this year and I" }, { "start": 1853.36, "end": 1856.9599999999998, "text": " think these people who will change what's happening next year and the years beyond," }, { "start": 1856.9599999999998, "end": 1860.4399999999998, "text": " some of them are like, yeah, obviously that Elon Musk, I think is an obvious one. So the" }, { "start": 1860.4399999999998, "end": 1863.08, "text": " Elon Musk one I think is interesting because you know, there's a poll associated with this" }, { "start": 1863.08, "end": 1867.36, "text": " for people to vote for how we should have ranked the top 10 and Musk is dominating the" }, { "start": 1867.36, "end": 1871.6399999999999, "text": " poll. Like it is such a far and away. I've gotten, I've gotten like some messages from" }, { "start": 1871.6399999999999, "end": 1875.32, "text": " friends about the Kanye pick, which I think again, hilarious. It's a controversial, I've" }, { "start": 1875.32, "end": 1878.22, "text": " got some messages about some of the other ordering and I've seen some of that stuff." }, { "start": 1878.22, "end": 1882.08, "text": " Not one person has disputed that Elon Musk. Oh, people in our comments have disputed the" }, { "start": 1882.08, "end": 1885.28, "text": " Elon Musk. Really? Yes. I haven't been reading the comments. But what I will say is, what" }, { "start": 1885.28, "end": 1890.1999999999998, "text": " I will say is, is, uh, people are like Snowden should be number one. Well, here's the thing." }, { "start": 1890.2, "end": 1898.52, "text": " Like in my, in the equation of like, Snowden did one thing that's really, really important," }, { "start": 1898.52, "end": 1905.28, "text": " you know, like it's going to have him, it has already had impact. Snowden may disappear." }, { "start": 1905.28, "end": 1908.28, "text": " It doesn't necessarily have a second act. He doesn't necessarily have a second act." }, { "start": 1908.28, "end": 1913.8, "text": " And what he did was not, um, it wasn't an original act. It was something that has been" }, { "start": 1913.8, "end": 1920.6, "text": " done historically for throughout history, which is whistleblowing or revealing state" }, { "start": 1920.6, "end": 1924.08, "text": " secrets, you know, whistleblowing on revealing state secrets. And we still don't know what" }, { "start": 1924.08, "end": 1928.32, "text": " the fallout of that is going to be completely, but there's no question. He's been a major," }, { "start": 1928.32, "end": 1932.32, "text": " a prime mover in terms of what's happened this year. Um, Glenn Greenwald, who is in" }, { "start": 1932.32, "end": 1940.6399999999999, "text": " our top 10, I think to me he, he deserves, um, in some ways more credit because he hasn't" }, { "start": 1940.64, "end": 1945.3200000000002, "text": " just done this, taken this one thing and let it sit there. You know, he has been, he's" }, { "start": 1945.3200000000002, "end": 1949.8000000000002, "text": " turned this into a mission to, to get this news out there and to inform the populace" }, { "start": 1949.8000000000002, "end": 1952.92, "text": " of what is going on. And I think, so when you think about, and then when you think about," }, { "start": 1952.92, "end": 1956.3600000000001, "text": " so how does Elon Musk rank against those guys? Like, well, they're very different places," }, { "start": 1956.3600000000001, "end": 1960, "text": " but when I think about the longterm, when I think about where we're going and when I" }, { "start": 1960, "end": 1964.2, "text": " think about like what the verge embodies and what we all think about every day and talk" }, { "start": 1964.2, "end": 1971.2, "text": " about every day, Elon Musk at this moment feels to me like the hope for like a brighter" }, { "start": 1971.2, "end": 1975.3600000000001, "text": " tomorrow where, and like, and he was really actualizing a lot of that stuff and making" }, { "start": 1975.3600000000001, "end": 1982.64, "text": " it real. And so to me, it just felt like it was hard to imagine a person who seems as" }, { "start": 1982.64, "end": 1987.52, "text": " exciting and impressive at this moment. Uh, other than Elon Musk," }, { "start": 1987.52, "end": 1993.0800000000002, "text": " I think if you just had the list of his achievements already, he's a strong contender for number" }, { "start": 1993.08, "end": 1996.96, "text": " one, but you just get the feeling he's going to have more. Well, he's going to have more." }, { "start": 1996.96, "end": 1999.96, "text": " And like, I think, feel like he's just getting started, like the stuff he's just now starting" }, { "start": 1999.96, "end": 2003.72, "text": " to get a little bit of foothold and doing big, big things. I think, um, you know, it's" }, { "start": 2003.72, "end": 2007.08, "text": " interesting like time just did their man of the year and or person of the year and it's" }, { "start": 2007.08, "end": 2012.52, "text": " the Pope. Uh, clearly everybody, not everybody is like, yeah, the Pope's the person of the" }, { "start": 2012.52, "end": 2017.1599999999999, "text": " year. 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I feel like indie game developers kind of" }, { "start": 2106.44, "end": 2112.7200000000003, "text": " approach how they experiment with games differently because that's all he does. Apparently now" }, { "start": 2112.7200000000003, "end": 2117.76, "text": " not just like frigging just hangs around and tries to hack together weird little tech demo." }, { "start": 2117.76, "end": 2122.52, "text": " Yeah. I mean, I think not just is he seems so obviously to be, he had to be part of the" }, { "start": 2122.52, "end": 2128.32, "text": " top 10 because uh, I mean, Minecraft is crazy. Like when you think about the, the, the arc" }, { "start": 2128.32, "end": 2133.62, "text": " of Minecraft, it's bizarre, right? I mean, it started as this super duper nerdy and still" }, { "start": 2133.62, "end": 2140.08, "text": " is to this day, 100% as nerdy as it ever was. This incredibly nerdy does not fit in with" }, { "start": 2140.08, "end": 2145.24, "text": " our current aesthetic of video games is not fitting with the current, like the flavor" }, { "start": 2145.24, "end": 2150.04, "text": " of video games, which is like really violent and sprawling and action and all that stuff." }, { "start": 2150.04, "end": 2158.04, "text": " And it's like, not only did it, was it successful, but it's become like a, a monstrous success." }, { "start": 2158.04, "end": 2163.6, "text": " One that I, and where it's successful is interesting to me that children are really into Minecraft." }, { "start": 2163.6, "end": 2169.52, "text": " And they're like world building and yeah, yeah. So trade run dread trade trade run dread" }, { "start": 2169.52, "end": 2175.7599999999998, "text": " are the head of product at Vox. His son is like heavy into Minecraft and like they hack" }, { "start": 2175.7599999999998, "end": 2179.4, "text": " stuff together in Minecraft and they're building stuff together. And you know, he's been to" }, { "start": 2179.4, "end": 2183.2599999999998, "text": " diverge craft and is like, you know, Whoa, this is awesome. And it's really into it." }, { "start": 2183.2599999999998, "end": 2188.48, "text": " They're selling Minecraft like dolls and stuff at Walmart. Yeah. Walmart. And it's like," }, { "start": 2188.48, "end": 2193.56, "text": " yeah, oh yeah. This is the thing about Minecraft. It's like super duper mainstream has over" }, { "start": 2193.56, "end": 2199.08, "text": " overtaken, like smart kids are all over Minecraft. Like that's what I've noticed. And I feel" }, { "start": 2199.08, "end": 2203.4, "text": " like it's actually really encouraging because what Minecraft is all about is making things" }, { "start": 2203.4, "end": 2207.2, "text": " and building, like discovering things, building things, figuring out ways to make things out" }, { "start": 2207.2, "end": 2211.74, "text": " of nothing essentially. And I think like if that's a lesson we're teaching kids right" }, { "start": 2211.74, "end": 2216, "text": " now through a video game, like it's a pretty awesome lesson that you can build anything" }, { "start": 2216, "end": 2221.22, "text": " you want if you like learn the skills to make it. I had the most, and I like directly grateful" }, { "start": 2221.22, "end": 2226.22, "text": " to notch for being able to have this experience. But while I was living in Colorado with my," }, { "start": 2226.22, "end": 2231.54, "text": " my brother's kids and my sister-in-law, while he was deployed, we started a Minecraft server" }, { "start": 2231.54, "end": 2237.7999999999997, "text": " and like me and my six year old niece and my four year old nephew, he was sitting on" }, { "start": 2237.7999999999997, "end": 2242.48, "text": " my lap watching me play. We're like built this little house and my brother came on the" }, { "start": 2242.48, "end": 2246.8399999999997, "text": " server and like, we built this house for you. And like, then we made a lot of, yeah, we" }, { "start": 2246.84, "end": 2253.76, "text": " hung out on in this world. And like, and that was the cool thing is that we've, you know," }, { "start": 2253.76, "end": 2259.56, "text": " like notch allowed us to create so that we have a world that we've made and the kids" }, { "start": 2259.56, "end": 2260.56, "text": " want to visit it." }, { "start": 2260.56, "end": 2264.6800000000003, "text": " It's so awesome. I mean, it's so awesome. And it's not, and it feels like it's growing." }, { "start": 2264.6800000000003, "end": 2268.36, "text": " It doesn't feel the kind of trend where it's like propped up by hype or advertising or" }, { "start": 2268.36, "end": 2273.4, "text": " marketing feels like extremely grassroots. Like I was blown away when I started to notice" }, { "start": 2273.4, "end": 2278.56, "text": " how much this had penetrated like the mainstream and how, how many kids were involved in it" }, { "start": 2278.56, "end": 2283.02, "text": " and, and interested in it on a really deep level. And, and we're thinking about it and" }, { "start": 2283.02, "end": 2284.02, "text": " talking about it." }, { "start": 2284.02, "end": 2285.02, "text": " Legos 2.0." }, { "start": 2285.02, "end": 2288.84, "text": " I mean, it's, but that's the thing and how awesome were Legos for us as kids." }, { "start": 2288.84, "end": 2289.84, "text": " Oh, they're still pretty great." }, { "start": 2289.84, "end": 2293.12, "text": " Well, no, I think those are obviously great, but, but think about taking that to a, to" }, { "start": 2293.12, "end": 2298.04, "text": " a virtual realm and saying like anything is possible here. I just feel like it's incredible." }, { "start": 2298.04, "end": 2304.4, "text": " There's a better that like go from like regular Legos to Technics was like a huge leap and" }, { "start": 2304.4, "end": 2308.2799999999997, "text": " like you either made that nerdy leap or you didn't, but it seems like there's an easier" }, { "start": 2308.2799999999997, "end": 2310.72, "text": " ramp up in Minecraft to start doing cool things." }, { "start": 2310.72, "end": 2313.68, "text": " And I think it's also like you look at it in comparison to something like Angry Birds," }, { "start": 2313.68, "end": 2319.24, "text": " which we all think of as a big success for indie gaming. But this is, feels like the" }, { "start": 2319.24, "end": 2323.88, "text": " most impressive thing that has ever come out of indie gaming in the sense that it isn't" }, { "start": 2323.88, "end": 2328.2400000000002, "text": " just a cool distraction, it isn't just a fun game to play on the train. It is a like a" }, { "start": 2328.2400000000002, "end": 2334.1600000000003, "text": " lifestyle and a way of thinking that has changed. I think it's changing like kids and adults" }, { "start": 2334.1600000000003, "end": 2335.96, "text": " for the better. And it's exciting." }, { "start": 2335.96, "end": 2336.96, "text": " I got to start playing more of it." }, { "start": 2336.96, "end": 2339.4, "text": " You really do. I mean, it's actually very time consuming. That's the thing is like once" }, { "start": 2339.4, "end": 2344.56, "text": " you get hooked, you're sort of hooked. That's fine. Anyhow, so this list is, there's a lot" }, { "start": 2344.56, "end": 2348.96, "text": " of people in this list. There's so many people to talk about and all 50 people on this list" }, { "start": 2348.96, "end": 2354.96, "text": " are all 50 matter. And by the way, there are so many more that we did not, that did not" }, { "start": 2354.96, "end": 2361.2400000000002, "text": " make the top 50 cut. So if we had a 200 or a 500 and they all are impressive and matter" }, { "start": 2361.2400000000002, "end": 2364.4, "text": " and interesting. And so it was actually really hard to make some of these decisions. And" }, { "start": 2364.4, "end": 2368.56, "text": " we went through many, many iterations of paring down and moving around and just trying to" }, { "start": 2368.56, "end": 2374, "text": " figure out who was really the key, who are the key people. This list does not say, this" }, { "start": 2374, "end": 2378.28, "text": " is not every person who you should care about. These are the top 50 that we care about and" }, { "start": 2378.28, "end": 2381.6000000000004, "text": " we think you should take a look. We've been watching, we will watch that you, we think" }, { "start": 2381.6000000000004, "end": 2385.76, "text": " you should take a look at and think about. I encourage you to check it out because we," }, { "start": 2385.76, "end": 2389.38, "text": " we put a lot of energy and time and thought into this and unlike a lot of other places" }, { "start": 2389.38, "end": 2394.7400000000002, "text": " that do make listicles or do make slide shows, we have endeavored, we endeavor to never make" }, { "start": 2394.7400000000002, "end": 2399.2000000000003, "text": " stuff that is deceptive, that is feels like we're just asking for page views or we want" }, { "start": 2399.2000000000003, "end": 2402.7200000000003, "text": " you to like, you know, flip through this so you get to see ads. Like there are some ads" }, { "start": 2402.7200000000003, "end": 2407.48, "text": " on this. It's sponsored by Samsung who loves to advertise with us, which I'm not complaining" }, { "start": 2407.48, "end": 2412.2, "text": " about. And if you scroll down for each, each person on the list, there's the top, their" }, { "start": 2412.2, "end": 2419.8, "text": " top 10 fashion mistakes. But, but, but, uh, what I'm, what I'm saying is, is, is we actually" }, { "start": 2419.8, "end": 2426.36, "text": " made this wanting to do it as a paginated like experience. Like this is not, this is" }, { "start": 2426.36, "end": 2430.12, "text": " not designed it. And this is not to gain people. This is like, we didn't have to do it this" }, { "start": 2430.12, "end": 2432.88, "text": " way. We could have done it a hundred different ways and we thought this was a cool way to" }, { "start": 2432.88, "end": 2437.7200000000003, "text": " do it. And, uh, we think that frankly, like when you are sparingly used, numbered ranked" }, { "start": 2437.7200000000003, "end": 2441.86, "text": " lists, like there's actually a lot of power to those and there's a meaning to them and" }, { "start": 2441.86, "end": 2444.76, "text": " there is power and meaning to this. And we're going to do this every year. And I suspect" }, { "start": 2444.76, "end": 2449.32, "text": " that when we do it next year, uh, it will be bigger and, and batter. Uh, and hopefully" }, { "start": 2449.32, "end": 2452.84, "text": " I'd love to do an event where we can invite all these people and invite other people to" }, { "start": 2452.84, "end": 2459.7200000000003, "text": " like, you know, have drinks and party party, the list party. And, uh, and so anyhow, so" }, { "start": 2459.7200000000003, "end": 2462.32, "text": " this is the first year we're very excited about it. And then we're going to invite the" }, { "start": 2462.32, "end": 2466.6000000000004, "text": " 21 introverted behaviors that feel just like you. Yes. Is that an actual headline somewhere?" }, { "start": 2466.6000000000004, "end": 2469.88, "text": " That's definitely a BuzzFeed headline that I've been sent. So I have a segue. So number" }, { "start": 2469.88, "end": 2475.2400000000002, "text": " four on our list, uh, Daniel Ek, CEO of Spotify. Yes. And actually Josh, as you were sitting" }, { "start": 2475.2400000000002, "end": 2481.0800000000004, "text": " down, uh, you told me that you were, you were quitting. So Spotify got Led Zeppelin, which" }, { "start": 2481.0800000000004, "end": 2488.4, "text": " is a coup, major coup. And they also launched a free streaming service in iOS. I literally" }, { "start": 2488.4, "end": 2492.8, "text": " like not even a week ago, like less than a week ago, bought the whole Led Zeppelin was" }, { "start": 2492.8, "end": 2497.28, "text": " looking for where Led Zeppelin was on streaming services. And they're not there. Can we just" }, { "start": 2497.28, "end": 2501.7200000000003, "text": " listen to some Zeppelin while we talk about that? Um, I don't think that legally speaking," }, { "start": 2501.7200000000003, "end": 2508.48, "text": " I would talk about anybody have it. Everybody, everybody sing your favorite Led Zeppelin" }, { "start": 2508.48, "end": 2511.76, "text": " put on everybody put on their favorite Led Zeppelin song while you're listening to this" }, { "start": 2511.76, "end": 2517.04, "text": " at home. But, uh, but here's the thing I'm, I think I'm leaving RDO. Yeah, I think, uh," }, { "start": 2517.04, "end": 2521.92, "text": " the winner, I pay for both subscribe to pay for both and I pay for Google and nine times" }, { "start": 2521.92, "end": 2527.4, "text": " out of 10 lately when I'm looking for something obscure, I find it on Spotify and I just feel" }, { "start": 2527.4, "end": 2532.18, "text": " like their momentum has, has basically stopped. Like the, the hook for me is that RDO had" }, { "start": 2532.18, "end": 2538.52, "text": " a better interface, but when I can't find the music I'm looking for, like that's it." }, { "start": 2538.52, "end": 2543.12, "text": " Like you, that's the sole purpose of your service. It sucks cause RDO does have so much" }, { "start": 2543.12, "end": 2547.2799999999997, "text": " going for it. Well, and the way the way, I mean, the thing is, is like, cause I spent" }, { "start": 2547.2799999999997, "end": 2551.88, "text": " that year with off the internet, I like really got out of touch with like music and it's" }, { "start": 2551.88, "end": 2555.8399999999997, "text": " taken me a long time to just kind of get back in the flow and like new things and stuff" }, { "start": 2555.8399999999997, "end": 2562.04, "text": " like that. And you know, my carefully curated list of people I follow on RDO are pretty" }, { "start": 2562.04, "end": 2569.88, "text": " much my entire gateway to new music and interesting music and cool music. And that's, I tried," }, { "start": 2569.88, "end": 2575, "text": " I like Spotify is like the fact that they store stuff on your computer, like makes the" }, { "start": 2575, "end": 2579.6800000000003, "text": " streaming work better when you have like a bad internet connection. But almost everything" }, { "start": 2579.6800000000003, "end": 2586.56, "text": " else about RDO is so much better. Spotify has what appears to be a better like technical" }, { "start": 2586.56, "end": 2589.92, "text": " backend. I can't really tell, but it appears to be that way. They've got way more scale." }, { "start": 2589.92, "end": 2593.56, "text": " They've got way more scale. Except for their search. They've got their searches like," }, { "start": 2593.56, "end": 2597.56, "text": " okay. You get a bunch of like, like cover, cover. They have a lot of stuff. Like they" }, { "start": 2597.56, "end": 2601.84, "text": " are engaging the prioritizer search. They've got a better exclusives, but they have the" }, { "start": 2601.84, "end": 2602.84, "text": " worst, one of the worst." }, { "start": 2602.84, "end": 2607.7999999999997, "text": " The app ecosystem is great. Like the fact that you can plug in Pitchfork and just like" }, { "start": 2607.7999999999997, "end": 2608.7999999999997, "text": " whatever their best new music is." }, { "start": 2608.7999999999997, "end": 2612.64, "text": " But that's on the desktop. So that's the thing. You know how I want to spend my Sunday afternoons" }, { "start": 2612.64, "end": 2618.4, "text": " is like with my iPad reading Pitchfork, air playing it to my stereo. And that I can't do" }, { "start": 2618.4, "end": 2624.04, "text": " it right. Like Pitchfork is an app on Spotify that works at the desktop. But like why do" }, { "start": 2624.04, "end": 2625.6, "text": " I want that in this experience?" }, { "start": 2625.6, "end": 2628.7599999999998, "text": " There's no mobile. It needs to be a mobile version. Yeah." }, { "start": 2628.7599999999998, "end": 2630.64, "text": " I just don't know why they haven't gotten that." }, { "start": 2630.64, "end": 2632.92, "text": " I love the player here instead on Artea." }, { "start": 2632.92, "end": 2633.92, "text": " On Artea, this is great." }, { "start": 2633.92, "end": 2636.12, "text": " No, and I want a collections view. I want to know what's on my phone." }, { "start": 2636.12, "end": 2639.3199999999997, "text": " I have to say though, since I've been using Sonos a lot in the house, like it's gotten" }, { "start": 2639.3199999999997, "end": 2643.48, "text": " less of like, frankly I'm dealing, I'm grappling with their interface. And so it's like you" }, { "start": 2643.48, "end": 2648.04, "text": " lose a lot, but you also gain a lot in terms of like where you can play music. But, but" }, { "start": 2648.04, "end": 2653.68, "text": " I think the thing that kills it for me on with Spotify is like, why not just give me," }, { "start": 2653.68, "end": 2658.56, "text": " just give me a button that's like add to my, like I don't get starring. It basically does" }, { "start": 2658.56, "end": 2662.8399999999997, "text": " the thing of adding to my collection and then off saving it for offline. If you have that" }, { "start": 2662.8399999999997, "end": 2665.3199999999997, "text": " turned on, you can't search or sort it. It's just a mess." }, { "start": 2665.3199999999997, "end": 2670.64, "text": " Why not just give me, they have a lot, your library. Just let me add things into that" }, { "start": 2670.64, "end": 2673.9199999999996, "text": " that are, and then make them look different. Give them like a slightly different color" }, { "start": 2673.9199999999996, "end": 2677.48, "text": " so that I know that those are like not on my computer." }, { "start": 2677.48, "end": 2679.16, "text": " Yeah, no, they did." }, { "start": 2679.16, "end": 2680.16, "text": " John says they announced it last December." }, { "start": 2680.16, "end": 2681.16, "text": " They announced all this stuff last December." }, { "start": 2681.16, "end": 2682.16, "text": " But it hasn't been, it hasn't happened." }, { "start": 2682.16, "end": 2683.64, "text": " It hasn't rolled out and it's like not in the festival." }, { "start": 2683.64, "end": 2689.24, "text": " Here's what Spotify needs to do. Buy RDO, take its interface, stick it on top of Spotify." }, { "start": 2689.24, "end": 2693.24, "text": " Add direct messaging features." }, { "start": 2693.24, "end": 2697.44, "text": " Add Spotify direct so you can do, oh, they have direct messaging. I get messages. This" }, { "start": 2697.44, "end": 2702.16, "text": " is another thing I hate about Spotify is that people send me messages on Spotify. Yo, check" }, { "start": 2702.16, "end": 2705.16, "text": " out this track. And it's like, listen, I, you're a wonderful person. We're strangers." }, { "start": 2705.16, "end": 2708.64, "text": " We never met. Please don't recommend music to me. Like I'm going to just find it on my" }, { "start": 2708.64, "end": 2711.66, "text": " own. Although to the two people who just recently messaged me, that's not a personal attack" }, { "start": 2711.66, "end": 2715.6, "text": " on you. You can continue to send me suggestions. I just won't probably won't listen to them." }, { "start": 2715.6, "end": 2723.12, "text": " The thing that drives me bonkers about Spotify is this new, like that you can stream in one" }, { "start": 2723.12, "end": 2729.7999999999997, "text": " way for free on, and on tablets and desktop and a different way on phones. And it's, I'm" }, { "start": 2729.7999999999997, "end": 2734.3199999999997, "text": " sure it has to do with licensing, but here's like, this is not a troll. This is a genuine" }, { "start": 2734.3199999999997, "end": 2736.52, "text": " question. What about phablets?" }, { "start": 2736.52, "end": 2742.88, "text": " I think those are considered phones. Well, okay. So if I have a 6.5 inch device, you're" }, { "start": 2742.88, "end": 2753.4, "text": " a loser. I'm a loser. So if I have this LGG flex, I'm sitting here. I'm flexing it. I" }, { "start": 2753.4, "end": 2757.72, "text": " mean, this should count as a tablet, right? Why? It's a phone. It's a big stupid phone." }, { "start": 2757.72, "end": 2761.6, "text": " Take the earpiece out. Oh look, dude, here's the deciding factor. Can you make calls with" }, { "start": 2761.6, "end": 2765.04, "text": " it? Yeah, but that's such a stupid. Yes. And the answer is yes." }, { "start": 2765.04, "end": 2772.48, "text": " No, you can't. No, no, no, no. I mean, does it use 18T's network to send a call over their" }, { "start": 2772.48, "end": 2775.96, "text": " network? Like if it does that, then I think that's a phone. If it doesn't do that, it's" }, { "start": 2775.96, "end": 2776.96, "text": " a tablet. There." }, { "start": 2776.96, "end": 2781.2799999999997, "text": " That should make a difference when it comes to how much you, oh my God, a boy's choir" }, { "start": 2781.2799999999997, "end": 2784.96, "text": " is singing at me because the phone is turning on. Take it away." }, { "start": 2784.96, "end": 2790.36, "text": " I think if you're asking for help defining what is and is not a phone." }, { "start": 2790.36, "end": 2795.92, "text": " Oh man. Why should that ridiculous distinction make it any different?" }, { "start": 2795.92, "end": 2798.92, "text": " Oh no, no, no, no, no. Don't do that. It's been flexed. I think it's cracked. It has" }, { "start": 2798.92, "end": 2803.52, "text": " flat flexed. Did you just crack this? No, this is cracked. This is us scratching it" }, { "start": 2803.52, "end": 2806.4, "text": " because it's supposed to heal itself. You cracked something. No, I heard a cracking" }, { "start": 2806.4, "end": 2810.1200000000003, "text": " noise, but I don't know what it was. Please stop. All I'm saying is the fact that Spotify" }, { "start": 2810.1200000000003, "end": 2816.6, "text": " has offered different features on tablet and phone is stupid. Hey LG, sorry about your" }, { "start": 2816.6, "end": 2823.2799999999997, "text": " review unit. We cracked it. Claw. Paul's immediately lost interest in whether or not the phone" }, { "start": 2823.2799999999997, "end": 2826.92, "text": " is cracked. Are we talking about this? This is a hot new way to use phones. Let me see" }, { "start": 2826.92, "end": 2833.02, "text": " this thing. It's a gigantic overpriced curved Android phone that we have a lot of tech demos" }, { "start": 2833.02, "end": 2838.2, "text": " to play with today. Where's the talk? I like what Samsung's doing. Here's the talk. Let's" }, { "start": 2838.2, "end": 2841.8399999999997, "text": " curve it the other way. More importantly, the talk charger. Seriously though. Ready" }, { "start": 2841.8399999999997, "end": 2846.56, "text": " for this? Ready for this? We're just involved in the chaos now. These edges are quite sharp." }, { "start": 2846.56, "end": 2853.56, "text": " It's not a good phone. I don't want this. I don't like this. This is the only way to" }, { "start": 2855.04, "end": 2861.48, "text": " charge this thing. Why? Why is it like this? That's weird. It's because they want to prove" }, { "start": 2861.48, "end": 2864.2799999999997, "text": " that they could. I don't understand. How did you like the Nexus one, but you don't like" }, { "start": 2864.2799999999997, "end": 2869, "text": " that? That to me is just a bigger, badder Nexus. There's no relationship. No relationship." }, { "start": 2869, "end": 2873.04, "text": " It has a better screen. It's curved in the same direction. You mean the Galaxy Nexus." }, { "start": 2873.04, "end": 2878.84, "text": " The Galaxy Nexus. First off, Galaxy Nexus screen was so slight in curvature, it's not" }, { "start": 2878.84, "end": 2883.68, "text": " even funny. It was still curved. That to me is like they took that idea and extended it" }, { "start": 2883.68, "end": 2887.2, "text": " in all kinds of stupid directions. Okay, number one, it was extremely slight. Number two," }, { "start": 2887.2, "end": 2892.52, "text": " it was stock Android. That's true. My problem here, if this were running stock, I'd be like," }, { "start": 2892.52, "end": 2898.44, "text": " well, at least it's running stock Android, but it's not, and it's really, really not." }, { "start": 2898.44, "end": 2905.44, "text": " You know, LG skin is real bad. It's just also, it's a way too big. The Galaxy Nexus is much" }, { "start": 2905.48, "end": 2909.84, "text": " smaller. This is a Qualcomm talk. The Qualcomm talk and the curve are like in the same category." }, { "start": 2909.84, "end": 2915.8, "text": " Let's see if I can figure out how to use it without instructions. This is like an amazing" }, { "start": 2915.8, "end": 2920.12, "text": " Spotify. Neil, I just got a notification. I just wanted to read it. Oh, sure, sure." }, { "start": 2920.12, "end": 2924.46, "text": " Could someone send him a notification? Black panties, deluxe version by R. Kelly is now" }, { "start": 2924.46, "end": 2928.32, "text": " available on Spotify. I got that notification like three times. I'm sorry, what is happening" }, { "start": 2928.32, "end": 2933.6400000000003, "text": " here? I really want to listen to this Kells record. What is happening? Is this the band?" }, { "start": 2933.6400000000003, "end": 2938.0800000000004, "text": " There's no way. The band is touch sensitive. It's both sides of the band. But look, this" }, { "start": 2938.0800000000004, "end": 2941.6800000000003, "text": " is working. Yeah, there's a gesture area there. What am I supposed to do with the band? The" }, { "start": 2941.6800000000003, "end": 2946.2000000000003, "text": " band, tapping on the band is another UI thing. It's not a good, you know how you resize that" }, { "start": 2946.2000000000003, "end": 2950.6600000000003, "text": " watch? Did you read Chris' review? You know how you resize it? You take scissors out and" }, { "start": 2950.6600000000003, "end": 2955.2000000000003, "text": " you cut the band. No. Awesome. Yeah. The band that is integral to the functioning of the" }, { "start": 2955.2, "end": 2965.72, "text": " watch. Whoops. This is hilarious by the way. It's showing the Qualcomm stock being down." }, { "start": 2965.72, "end": 2969.96, "text": " By the way, if Paul Jacobs didn't like us after CES last year, he's really going to" }, { "start": 2969.96, "end": 2974.3599999999997, "text": " hate us now. The thing about the talk watch, and this was in Chris' review, I want everything" }, { "start": 2974.3599999999997, "end": 2983.04, "text": " in that watch, just not in that watch. I want the, it's Mirasol. Oh, a Mirasol product in" }, { "start": 2983.04, "end": 2989.9, "text": " market. Yeah. Proper Mirasol. It's heavily took all of the bits and pieces here and made" }, { "start": 2989.9, "end": 2993.98, "text": " a watch out of it. It'd be great. This is making me really sad. Yeah. Okay. Because" }, { "start": 2993.98, "end": 2999.24, "text": " no one wants this. And let me tell you something. The charger is cool. Here's the thing guys." }, { "start": 2999.24, "end": 3002.74, "text": " Like if this is the thing, if this is what you're making, if this is the best thing you" }, { "start": 3002.74, "end": 3009.08, "text": " can make. No, it's not. No, it's a tech demo. It's a tech demo. Everyone apologize for the" }, { "start": 3009.08, "end": 3012.6, "text": " talk all at once. I almost said that too at the same time. Yeah, this is like, that's" }, { "start": 3012.6, "end": 3016.24, "text": " the opposite problem where we're talking over each other. Show everybody that watch face." }, { "start": 3016.24, "end": 3020.4, "text": " That's great. That's just good. This is good charges. The other way. That looks like a" }, { "start": 3020.4, "end": 3026.04, "text": " hyper card. Yeah, it does. The whole thing looks like a hyper card project. The whole" }, { "start": 3026.04, "end": 3030.2799999999997, "text": " thing looks like a hyper card. Like they made, you made it in hyper card in 1988. Yeah. And" }, { "start": 3030.2799999999997, "end": 3036.7999999999997, "text": " then you put it, you were like, you know, sync to watch. That'd be incredible. I would" }, { "start": 3036.7999999999997, "end": 3040.72, "text": " a hundred percent buy that watch, the hyper card watch. Here's what I want. Here's what" }, { "start": 3040.72, "end": 3045.4399999999996, "text": " I want you to do. I'm wearing a Seiko. I forget the model number of this watch, but let me," }, { "start": 3045.4399999999996, "end": 3049.24, "text": " can you get this? Can you shoot this? I just want you to just look at this for a second." }, { "start": 3049.24, "end": 3054.56, "text": " Okay. I want you to do this is what I want watchmakers to do. Okay. Very plain, minimal" }, { "start": 3054.56, "end": 3060.72, "text": " of silver watch. Okay. I want you to make this exact thing, but replace the, replace" }, { "start": 3060.72, "end": 3066.2, "text": " this middle part where all the stuff is with a, with the screen from the Motorola aura." }, { "start": 3066.2, "end": 3073.04, "text": " Okay. Capacitive touch screen version of that. And then replace Josh with this like glowing" }, { "start": 3073.04, "end": 3079, "text": " blue or purple plastic. Do you want physical hands? Um, physical, no, but it doesn't, no," }, { "start": 3079, "end": 3082.2599999999998, "text": " there's no physical hands because you'll make a soup. It'll be either a super high res or" }, { "start": 3082.2599999999998, "end": 3086.3199999999997, "text": " a display circular display. And then you'll make, there'll be a Seiko will sell watch" }, { "start": 3086.3199999999997, "end": 3091.3999999999996, "text": " faces for it. That looked like classic Seiko watches. Rolex will sell a $500 watch face" }, { "start": 3091.4, "end": 3096.2000000000003, "text": " for it. That will look like a classic Rolex watch. Okay. And, um, the pirate may will get" }, { "start": 3096.2000000000003, "end": 3099.48, "text": " super weird. And then, and then, and then it'll have a bunch of apps and stuff like" }, { "start": 3099.48, "end": 3102.1800000000003, "text": " cool, whatever. It'll show notifications. It'll show the weather. But like at the end" }, { "start": 3102.1800000000003, "end": 3106.28, "text": " of the day, like I'll be able to swipe onto, I would buy that. I would spend well over" }, { "start": 3106.28, "end": 3109.36, "text": " a thousand dollars for that product. Yeah. If it looked like a watch I wanted to wear" }, { "start": 3109.36, "end": 3112.96, "text": " that I could put my own strap on and then also had all the functionality of the smartwatch" }, { "start": 3112.96, "end": 3117.64, "text": " stuff. If, if that's what Apple makes, I will give them any amount of money to buy it and" }, { "start": 3117.64, "end": 3125.52, "text": " I will give it a 10 plus review sight unseen. Okay. I will be number one forever on the" }, { "start": 3125.52, "end": 3129.4, "text": " verge 50. If he makes you a super expensive, he makes me an awesome watch. There's no way" }, { "start": 3129.4, "end": 3133.04, "text": " for me to source this, but I heard a rumor. You'll say it anyway. I mean, I can say here." }, { "start": 3133.04, "end": 3136.44, "text": " Yeah. Rumor, rumor. Who the hell knows, but I've heard that Apple's watch is going to" }, { "start": 3136.44, "end": 3142.92, "text": " be really expensive. I hope it's expensive enough that they actually put the time and" }, { "start": 3142.92, "end": 3147.12, "text": " materials into it to make it cool. And that's some like future cyber watch like this watch" }, { "start": 3147.12, "end": 3150.52, "text": " is going to show notifications. I hope that whoever worked on the notifications area for" }, { "start": 3150.52, "end": 3158.7999999999997, "text": " iOS seven gets nowhere near it. Yes. No, it's funny that the main value of a watch is notifications." }, { "start": 3158.7999999999997, "end": 3162.44, "text": " No, the notifications cover the time. Apple have no idea how to do notifications whatsoever." }, { "start": 3162.44, "end": 3166.3599999999997, "text": " The notifications will cover the time and they won't move until you swipe them away." }, { "start": 3166.3599999999997, "end": 3170.12, "text": " You won't be able to swipe them. You're going to have to hit a tiny little X. You'll hit" }, { "start": 3170.12, "end": 3174.16, "text": " the corner of the watch. There will be no X. You'll either have to open the notification" }, { "start": 3174.16, "end": 3184.04, "text": " or sit there and wait for it to go away. I do that so much. Even though you have 10 mail" }, { "start": 3184.04, "end": 3188.2, "text": " notifications, it'll give you an individual notification for each mail. Yeah. Cause that's" }, { "start": 3188.2, "end": 3192.2799999999997, "text": " important and that is helpful. Anyhow, enough. There's more toys to play with. Yeah, I don't" }, { "start": 3192.2799999999997, "end": 3198.58, "text": " know. I mean, this is the LG, this is the new LG Google play edition tablet with Deater's" }, { "start": 3198.58, "end": 3203.6, "text": " stuff on it. Let's see what he's doing. Can you hand me that? That's white Nexus seven." }, { "start": 3203.6, "end": 3207.72, "text": " The white Nexus seven I think is like the white Nexus five, which is feels like, oh" }, { "start": 3207.72, "end": 3213.12, "text": " why? Yeah. Man, wait, what man? Oh, they changed the battle. Doesn't know how to make white" }, { "start": 3213.12, "end": 3220.12, "text": " products. Let me see it. Yeah. Oh, so the black Nexus seven is like this. What? Yeah." }, { "start": 3220.12, "end": 3225.7599999999998, "text": " Is this metal? No, it feels like this nonsense. I like black Nexus five and I'm like, that's" }, { "start": 3225.7599999999998, "end": 3230.72, "text": " fine. No, this is a soft tie. Even I like this a lot. You're crazy. Trade you Nexus" }, { "start": 3230.72, "end": 3234.2799999999997, "text": " five. I want the white. Now I didn't think I wanted this, but now I want the white Nexus" }, { "start": 3234.2799999999997, "end": 3239.12, "text": " seven. No way. I love my Nexus seven. This one seems cooler. I want an extra seven, but" }, { "start": 3239.12, "end": 3244.3599999999997, "text": " I'm waiting for the Verizon one. It feels higher end actually. This feels like a higher" }, { "start": 3244.3599999999997, "end": 3248.4399999999996, "text": " end product. Check it out. Paul, you tell me I'll trade you. Dexter's fives. I'm going" }, { "start": 3248.4399999999996, "end": 3253.48, "text": " to need Nexus five is so bad. It's a different type of, Oh, this button's funky. Yeah, that's" }, { "start": 3253.48, "end": 3259.2, "text": " nice. My button is very good touch. No, the black ones way better. The black one's way" }, { "start": 3259.2, "end": 3264.16, "text": " better. Josh, you got that. You did something slightly controversial this week with the" }, { "start": 3264.16, "end": 3269.04, "text": " Nexus five. You upgraded our view. Oh, well, I, I, I, Oh, we want to talk about the Nexus" }, { "start": 3269.04, "end": 3274.6, "text": " five a little bit? Yeah. So, so Google has, has, has, is now it should be shipping, gave" }, { "start": 3274.6, "end": 3279.96, "text": " us an early look at software that was mostly focused on improving focus, no pun intended," }, { "start": 3279.96, "end": 3286.24, "text": " but every pun intended, on improving the Nexus five camera. And I would say that from the" }, { "start": 3286.24, "end": 3291.56, "text": " release software to the new software, the changes are pretty monumental. I mean, in" }, { "start": 3291.56, "end": 3296.3199999999997, "text": " the, in the, in the sense that pictures I have given up on thinking I was going to capture," }, { "start": 3296.3199999999997, "end": 3301.6, "text": " I'm now capturing and it has given me a new level of confidence with the camera. It is" }, { "start": 3301.6, "end": 3305.12, "text": " still not as good as the iPhone camera. It is not as good as the Lumia 10 20, which is" }, { "start": 3305.12, "end": 3308.9199999999996, "text": " like a kind of a crazy camera. I don't know if it's as good as the Xperia Z one, which" }, { "start": 3308.9199999999996, "end": 3313.24, "text": " I just bought a, an imported version of and is on its way hopefully to my home soon. Yeah," }, { "start": 3313.24, "end": 3319.52, "text": " I couldn't resist. But there were some samples that we were just showing, but it is like" }, { "start": 3319.52, "end": 3323.56, "text": " way better at taking photos and way better at focusing on photos. It's not perfect. They" }, { "start": 3323.56, "end": 3328.22, "text": " still have a lot of work to do. They need to make better software. I think their biggest" }, { "start": 3328.22, "end": 3334.9199999999996, "text": " problem is like the actual UI that you use to capture is just not great. But I mean," }, { "start": 3334.9199999999996, "end": 3338.7599999999998, "text": " Deeter you're using a Nexus five. Yeah, no, I feel the same way. Thank you, Billy. Thank" }, { "start": 3338.76, "end": 3345.2000000000003, "text": " you. That was wonderful. Like the TVs went off apparently. I feel like it went from being" }, { "start": 3345.2000000000003, "end": 3350.46, "text": " a camera. I didn't trust to just do the basic work of taking a picture to a camera that" }, { "start": 3350.46, "end": 3356.2000000000003, "text": " can do the basic work of taking a picture. So it went from unacceptable to usable, but" }, { "start": 3356.2000000000003, "end": 3360.88, "text": " I still think the Galaxy S4 takes a better picture, for example, and the iPhone obviously" }, { "start": 3360.88, "end": 3366.2400000000002, "text": " does really the Galaxy S4 takes a better picture. I do not the stock version. Oh, I haven't" }, { "start": 3366.24, "end": 3370.68, "text": " used much the Google Play edition. So that's that one much. So that's the hook. Like, yeah," }, { "start": 3370.68, "end": 3375, "text": " no, the Google Play, the Google Play edition of the Galaxy S4. I really should do the same" }, { "start": 3375, "end": 3382.06, "text": " thing, but it is garbage and makes it. I haven't really used the non Google Play a lot version." }, { "start": 3382.06, "end": 3385.8799999999997, "text": " I don't know what that's like. So what I'm waiting if it's a lot better, I'd be very" }, { "start": 3385.8799999999997, "end": 3388.8799999999997, "text": " interested in checking in. What I'm waiting for is, but I don't want to use Samsung's" }, { "start": 3388.8799999999997, "end": 3394.16, "text": " supposedly Android has got the hooks in it now for third party camera apps to like work" }, { "start": 3394.16, "end": 3400.2, "text": " better with any Android phone. Yeah. And so we might be able to see third party camera" }, { "start": 3400.2, "end": 3406.04, "text": " apps that don't suck that just take native pictures quickly come up and solve this problem" }, { "start": 3406.04, "end": 3411.6, "text": " before you can because they clearly can't. Well, I think Google's also now based on our" }, { "start": 3411.6, "end": 3416.64, "text": " conversations with them and David wrote, you worked on the article with him about the change" }, { "start": 3416.64, "end": 3421.16, "text": " in the conversation we had with Google. They seem to be getting really aware of the fact" }, { "start": 3421.16, "end": 3427.16, "text": " that this is a deal breaker for a lot of people. Yeah. Like how did, how did they not know" }, { "start": 3427.16, "end": 3433.54, "text": " that? Um, years surprising what Google doesn't know. Given all of their data. Yeah. It's" }, { "start": 3433.54, "end": 3436.8799999999997, "text": " sometimes very surprising what they don't know. Actually it's funny cause they seem" }, { "start": 3436.8799999999997, "end": 3439.68, "text": " to know it right. Cause they launched the Nexus five with a bunch of crap about the" }, { "start": 3439.68, "end": 3444.72, "text": " camera and they keep on talking about Google plus photos and it's like, yeah, no, we talked" }, { "start": 3444.72, "end": 3449.64, "text": " about this for like a half an hour. Why you had to build an intense cloud service to improve" }, { "start": 3449.64, "end": 3454.68, "text": " photos. I think in some way I do, cause your cameras suck. I do feel in, I do feel in some" }, { "start": 3454.68, "end": 3462.2, "text": " way that, that, um, that they rushed this out. Like they weren't where they want it" }, { "start": 3462.2, "end": 3467.7999999999997, "text": " to be in terms of, um, I think they wanted to get it, I think they wanted to holiday" }, { "start": 3467.7999999999997, "end": 3471.7, "text": " sales, some kind of cycle they need to worry about. Yeah. Who knows? But what I will say" }, { "start": 3471.7, "end": 3475.7999999999997, "text": " is I got the distinct impression that they rushed it without the camera software where" }, { "start": 3475.8, "end": 3480.04, "text": " they wanted it to be. When I spoke to them before the review went up, cause it was in" }, { "start": 3480.04, "end": 3483.88, "text": " the review, I said, look, these guys are gonna, they said they're going to fix it cause they" }, { "start": 3483.88, "end": 3488.6400000000003, "text": " know it's broken. Cause I was like, look, this camera sucks. And my impression was they" }, { "start": 3488.6400000000003, "end": 3494.6400000000003, "text": " were acutely aware of it then, not just because somebody had told them. Yeah. And so I don't" }, { "start": 3494.6400000000003, "end": 3499.52, "text": " know, there's no excuse. There's no excuse for releasing a half finished product. Yeah." }, { "start": 3499.52, "end": 3504.44, "text": " Like I carry now, right now I'm switching back and forth between the five and HSC one" }, { "start": 3504.44, "end": 3509.32, "text": " Google play in my five S and I took a picture of Chris Ziegler in a bar last night that" }, { "start": 3509.32, "end": 3513.2000000000003, "text": " was like, I was astonished when I took this picture. Who took it? I mean, what camera" }, { "start": 3513.2000000000003, "end": 3516.68, "text": " took it? I took it like the five S. Yeah. I took a picture of it and it was like a dark" }, { "start": 3516.68, "end": 3520.56, "text": " room and like I put the camera on the table and like shot a picture of him and it was" }, { "start": 3520.56, "end": 3524.7200000000003, "text": " like bright and beautiful and like looked amazing. And I was like, I can't believe this" }, { "start": 3524.7200000000003, "end": 3528.44, "text": " camera did that. Right. I've never gotten that feeling from an Android phone. Mostly" }, { "start": 3528.44, "end": 3532.84, "text": " what I get is thank God any picture here is usable. I actually took it. I actually think" }, { "start": 3532.84, "end": 3536.6800000000003, "text": " the macro is more impressive on the Nexus five than on the macro pictures. And I do" }, { "start": 3536.6800000000003, "end": 3540.36, "text": " like macro pictures and I actually think the macro is better on the Nexus five than on" }, { "start": 3540.36, "end": 3548.36, "text": " the five S the five S will not, it has a, it's a less shallow. Yeah. Is that right?" }, { "start": 3548.36, "end": 3552.94, "text": " No, it has a, which one would have the shallower? You have a, that has a closer minimum focal" }, { "start": 3552.94, "end": 3557.08, "text": " distance, right? So, so I took a picture of a spider before the software fix was in. It" }, { "start": 3557.08, "end": 3560.94, "text": " took me like nine tries, but I took a picture of a small spider spinning the web outside" }, { "start": 3560.94, "end": 3564.2400000000002, "text": " of my house. And when I look at that picture, I'm like, that's a pretty crazy picture to" }, { "start": 3564.2400000000002, "end": 3567.7200000000003, "text": " have taken with a phone, even though, and like with the new software update, I would" }, { "start": 3567.7200000000003, "end": 3570.64, "text": " have taken the picture on the first try. I think I think it would have focused on the" }, { "start": 3570.64, "end": 3575.68, "text": " thing I was trying to focus on. So, so at what point is this, does this become like," }, { "start": 3575.68, "end": 3580.8, "text": " um, like, and it's like you got like Nikon and Canon and they're both like really, really" }, { "start": 3580.8, "end": 3585.48, "text": " good. And like there's kind of tweaks and preferences and styles that people want out" }, { "start": 3585.48, "end": 3590.76, "text": " of their camera when Nikon and Canon start making sensors for, for phones. First is like," }, { "start": 3590.76, "end": 3596.5200000000004, "text": " it seems like, you know, for, for people who use the iPhone, like the camera problem is" }, { "start": 3596.5200000000004, "end": 3601.2000000000003, "text": " pretty much solved since like the four or whatever. It's like you haven't had to worry" }, { "start": 3601.2000000000003, "end": 3604.48, "text": " about it and you kind of worry about other things that you just know it always gets better." }, { "start": 3604.48, "end": 3608.0400000000004, "text": " But it seems like there's a baseline we're still waiting for Google to hit and then we" }, { "start": 3608.0400000000004, "end": 3609.0400000000004, "text": " can stop complaining." }, { "start": 3609.0400000000004, "end": 3611.8, "text": " It's not just Google. I think it's, it's all of these other manufacturers who don't have" }, { "start": 3611.8, "end": 3614.7200000000003, "text": " the control that Apple has over the cameras." }, { "start": 3614.7200000000003, "end": 3618.1200000000003, "text": " How much of it is an art and how much of it is a science?" }, { "start": 3618.12, "end": 3623.8399999999997, "text": " Um, part of it is hardware. Let's be like Samsung makes cameras. They make some cameras" }, { "start": 3623.8399999999997, "end": 3629.4, "text": " that like real cameras that are well regarded and they're, they make Android phones that" }, { "start": 3629.4, "end": 3633.8399999999997, "text": " are cameras and you know, like they make a mirrorless phone, a mirrorless like, and they" }, { "start": 3633.8399999999997, "end": 3639.7999999999997, "text": " are, when you buy the S4, you're getting a lot of like Samsung's best work and HTC when" }, { "start": 3639.7999999999997, "end": 3643.3199999999997, "text": " they put out the one, they made a big deal, like fewer megapixels, more light and like" }, { "start": 3643.32, "end": 3648.28, "text": " it didn't work, but like they're trying, they're, they're very, very aware that a reason people" }, { "start": 3648.28, "end": 3650.2400000000002, "text": " buy iPhones is because the camera." }, { "start": 3650.2400000000002, "end": 3653.6800000000003, "text": " I mean, look at the LG, look at the G2 ads on television. They're all about like the" }, { "start": 3653.6800000000003, "end": 3657.7200000000003, "text": " OIS and how like you're not going to take any more blurry photos." }, { "start": 3657.7200000000003, "end": 3662.84, "text": " I'm just worried that Sony's putting out, Sony software is equally bad, right? Like" }, { "start": 3662.84, "end": 3669.6400000000003, "text": " the camera, the, on the spec sheet of the Z1 camera is amazing. And then the JPEG compression" }, { "start": 3669.6400000000003, "end": 3670.6400000000003, "text": " is out of control." }, { "start": 3670.6400000000003, "end": 3673.0800000000004, "text": " I don't think it's that, I don't think it's as bad as you make it out of the sound." }, { "start": 3673.08, "end": 3675.08, "text": " I mean, it's, it's, it's much worse than it should be." }, { "start": 3675.08, "end": 3676.56, "text": " Or you just bought a Sony camera or Sony phone." }, { "start": 3676.56, "end": 3680.7999999999997, "text": " Well, I bought it because I saw the, I bought it because I, no, I bought it because I saw" }, { "start": 3680.7999999999997, "end": 3683.44, "text": " the photos that Evan was taking with his and I was like, these look really good. And I" }, { "start": 3683.44, "end": 3687.12, "text": " looked at them like next to mine and I was like, I don't see a dramatic." }, { "start": 3687.12, "end": 3688.7999999999997, "text": " Just wait till you take a picture of a person in the dark." }, { "start": 3688.7999999999997, "end": 3689.7999999999997, "text": " I'm just waiting for the day." }, { "start": 3689.7999999999997, "end": 3690.7999999999997, "text": " And then like it kicked in." }, { "start": 3690.7999999999997, "end": 3691.7999999999997, "text": " What do you mean, Eli?" }, { "start": 3691.7999999999997, "end": 3692.7999999999997, "text": " Like the second you like, you're in." }, { "start": 3692.7999999999997, "end": 3693.7999999999997, "text": " Just wait until you're on your first porno shoot." }, { "start": 3693.7999999999997, "end": 3694.7999999999997, "text": " Well, yeah." }, { "start": 3694.7999999999997, "end": 3695.7999999999997, "text": " I'm just waiting for the day that this is out of control." }, { "start": 3695.7999999999997, "end": 3701.7999999999997, "text": " I'm just worried that this is always going to be a thing." }, { "start": 3701.8, "end": 3705.28, "text": " Well, it will be a thing until there's a, there's a, there's going to be a threshold." }, { "start": 3705.28, "end": 3706.6400000000003, "text": " Well, physics are the issue." }, { "start": 3706.6400000000003, "end": 3707.6400000000003, "text": " That's what I'm worried about." }, { "start": 3707.6400000000003, "end": 3715.2400000000002, "text": " Physics physics is you can't get around physics, but what you can do is quantum quantum." }, { "start": 3715.2400000000002, "end": 3717.84, "text": " What Apple has done is made a physically better." }, { "start": 3717.84, "end": 3723.04, "text": " They've had a, they've used a physically, physically better component with better software" }, { "start": 3723.04, "end": 3725.6400000000003, "text": " and like the better components are happening." }, { "start": 3725.6400000000003, "end": 3727.28, "text": " That's obviously happening." }, { "start": 3727.28, "end": 3731.76, "text": " The software I think is the real, what Apple's doing with software, with control." }, { "start": 3731.76, "end": 3737.1200000000003, "text": " Rolling the hardware is like just as they do in many places is just better than the" }, { "start": 3737.1200000000003, "end": 3738.1200000000003, "text": " competition." }, { "start": 3738.1200000000003, "end": 3739.1200000000003, "text": " It's a Sony sensor, right?" }, { "start": 3739.1200000000003, "end": 3742.32, "text": " Like they buy a Sony sensor, they put it in the thing, they engineer a lens assembly and" }, { "start": 3742.32, "end": 3744.4, "text": " they like write better software than everybody else." }, { "start": 3744.4, "end": 3745.4, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 3745.4, "end": 3746.4, "text": " It's like the trackpad." }, { "start": 3746.4, "end": 3747.4, "text": " I'm just tired." }, { "start": 3747.4, "end": 3748.4, "text": " I'm sad and tired." }, { "start": 3748.4, "end": 3753.28, "text": " It's like the trackpad on your Mac versus the trackpad on any PC laptop you've ever" }, { "start": 3753.28, "end": 3754.28, "text": " used." }, { "start": 3754.28, "end": 3755.28, "text": " Yeah, and the PCs, they still almost can't get, they're still terrible." }, { "start": 3755.28, "end": 3758.88, "text": " Yeah, HP just put out a laptop that doesn't click." }, { "start": 3758.88, "end": 3760.44, "text": " It's called the force pad." }, { "start": 3760.44, "end": 3761.44, "text": " Whoa." }, { "start": 3761.44, "end": 3762.44, "text": " Chill out guys." }, { "start": 3762.44, "end": 3763.44, "text": " Yeah guys." }, { "start": 3763.44, "end": 3764.44, "text": " No need to use force." }, { "start": 3764.44, "end": 3765.44, "text": " You know what I mean?" }, { "start": 3765.44, "end": 3767.48, "text": " All right, what else?" }, { "start": 3767.48, "end": 3770, "text": " One last thing and this is going to be the last one." }, { "start": 3770, "end": 3771, "text": " Yep." }, { "start": 3771, "end": 3772, "text": " There's a rumor last week." }, { "start": 3772, "end": 3773, "text": " I mean, you guys just blow it up." }, { "start": 3773, "end": 3774, "text": " You really are, right?" }, { "start": 3774, "end": 3775, "text": " Ellis is all over me right now." }, { "start": 3775, "end": 3776.48, "text": " Why are you blowing up so hard right now on our Vergecast?" }, { "start": 3776.48, "end": 3777.48, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 3777.48, "end": 3778.48, "text": " It just happened to me." }, { "start": 3778.48, "end": 3779.48, "text": " Ellis?" }, { "start": 3779.48, "end": 3780.48, "text": " Step off Ellis." }, { "start": 3780.48, "end": 3781.48, "text": " Ellis wants me to put a comic on the screen." }, { "start": 3781.48, "end": 3782.96, "text": " I'm not going to, well, let's see if Billy surprises us." }, { "start": 3782.96, "end": 3783.96, "text": " All right, go ahead." }, { "start": 3783.96, "end": 3784.96, "text": " What were you going to say?" }, { "start": 3784.96, "end": 3788.36, "text": " There's a rumor and this is a bad rumor and I, oh my God, Ellis." }, { "start": 3788.36, "end": 3789.36, "text": " You kidding me?" }, { "start": 3789.36, "end": 3790.36, "text": " Stop it." }, { "start": 3790.36, "end": 3791.36, "text": " You're going to ruin the Vergecast Ellis." }, { "start": 3791.36, "end": 3792.36, "text": " Take the battery out." }, { "start": 3792.36, "end": 3793.36, "text": " Oh wait." }, { "start": 3793.36, "end": 3794.36, "text": " Oh come on, really?" }, { "start": 3794.36, "end": 3795.36, "text": " I'm taking it out of my Nexus 5 too." }, { "start": 3795.36, "end": 3796.36, "text": " Really?" }, { "start": 3796.36, "end": 3797.36, "text": " Smartphone X2." }, { "start": 3797.36, "end": 3798.36, "text": " Oh my God, what a burn." }, { "start": 3798.36, "end": 3799.36, "text": " 2007." }, { "start": 3799.36, "end": 3800.36, "text": " Smartphone X2." }, { "start": 3800.36, "end": 3801.36, "text": " 2007." }, { "start": 3801.36, "end": 3806.84, "text": " No, like I know because I was, I was, look, I was there with you in spirit, okay?" }, { "start": 3806.84, "end": 3811.48, "text": " I know the impulse to make a joke about a removable battery." }, { "start": 3811.48, "end": 3812.48, "text": " Let's not go there, okay?" }, { "start": 3812.48, "end": 3813.48, "text": " We're better than that, Deitor." }, { "start": 3813.48, "end": 3815.88, "text": " There isn't a device on this table that has a removable battery." }, { "start": 3815.88, "end": 3816.88, "text": " Oh, like I can't be sure." }, { "start": 3816.88, "end": 3817.88, "text": " Oh, no." }, { "start": 3817.88, "end": 3818.88, "text": " So, no." }, { "start": 3818.88, "end": 3819.88, "text": " Which one?" }, { "start": 3819.88, "end": 3822.88, "text": " I don't think the back is supposed to come off of the LG G Flex." }, { "start": 3822.88, "end": 3823.88, "text": " It can, but it's not supposed to." }, { "start": 3823.88, "end": 3824.88, "text": " Pop this off." }, { "start": 3824.88, "end": 3825.88, "text": " Just pop this bad boy off." }, { "start": 3825.88, "end": 3826.88, "text": " I can take the battery out of my watch." }, { "start": 3826.88, "end": 3827.88, "text": " No." }, { "start": 3827.88, "end": 3828.88, "text": " Yeah, it does." }, { "start": 3828.88, "end": 3829.88, "text": " No." }, { "start": 3829.88, "end": 3830.88, "text": " What's this?" }, { "start": 3830.88, "end": 3831.88, "text": " Oh my God." }, { "start": 3831.88, "end": 3832.88, "text": " What is it?" }, { "start": 3832.88, "end": 3833.88, "text": " What?" }, { "start": 3833.88, "end": 3834.88, "text": " It's a Korean phone." }, { "start": 3834.88, "end": 3835.88, "text": " It's a Korean phone." }, { "start": 3835.88, "end": 3836.88, "text": " I didn't even see that coming." }, { "start": 3836.88, "end": 3837.88, "text": " I was like, what am I pulling out of here?" }, { "start": 3837.88, "end": 3838.88, "text": " You're like a clown with like a scarf up your sleeve and you keep on pulling out the scarf" }, { "start": 3838.88, "end": 3839.88, "text": " and it was like, no way." }, { "start": 3839.88, "end": 3840.88, "text": " How much scarf is there?" }, { "start": 3840.88, "end": 3841.88, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 3841.88, "end": 3842.88, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 3842.88, "end": 3843.88, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 3843.88, "end": 3844.88, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 3844.88, "end": 3845.88, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 3845.88, "end": 3846.88, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 3846.88, "end": 3849.88, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 3849.88, "end": 3851.6400000000003, "text": " It's a Korean phone, right?" }, { "start": 3851.6400000000003, "end": 3852.6400000000003, "text": " It's for their TV service." }, { "start": 3852.6400000000003, "end": 3853.6400000000003, "text": " It's their DVB-T or whatever." }, { "start": 3853.6400000000003, "end": 3854.6400000000003, "text": " Yo, this is whack." }, { "start": 3854.6400000000003, "end": 3855.6400000000003, "text": " That's amazing." }, { "start": 3855.6400000000003, "end": 3856.6400000000003, "text": " Watching a little TV here." }, { "start": 3856.6400000000003, "end": 3857.6400000000003, "text": " On my G Flex." }, { "start": 3857.6400000000003, "end": 3858.6400000000003, "text": " That's actually really disturbing, but kind of nice." }, { "start": 3858.6400000000003, "end": 3859.6400000000003, "text": " All right." }, { "start": 3859.6400000000003, "end": 3860.6400000000003, "text": " One more." }, { "start": 3860.6400000000003, "end": 3861.6400000000003, "text": " Speaking of television, huh?" }, { "start": 3861.6400000000003, "end": 3862.6400000000003, "text": " Speaking of television." }, { "start": 3862.6400000000003, "end": 3863.6400000000003, "text": " Get that away from me." }, { "start": 3863.6400000000003, "end": 3864.6400000000003, "text": " I can't even see the back." }, { "start": 3864.6400000000003, "end": 3865.6400000000003, "text": " I can't even see the back." }, { "start": 3865.6400000000003, "end": 3866.6400000000003, "text": " Okay, nice." }, { "start": 3866.6400000000003, "end": 3867.6400000000003, "text": " I can't see the back." }, { "start": 3867.6400000000003, "end": 3868.6400000000003, "text": " Okay, nice." }, { "start": 3868.6400000000003, "end": 3869.6400000000003, "text": " I can't see the back." }, { "start": 3869.6400000000003, "end": 3870.6400000000003, "text": " I can't see the back." }, { "start": 3870.6400000000003, "end": 3871.6400000000003, "text": " I can't see the back." }, { "start": 3871.6400000000003, "end": 3872.6400000000003, "text": " I can't see the back." }, { "start": 3872.6400000000003, "end": 3873.6400000000003, "text": " I can't see the back." }, { "start": 3873.6400000000003, "end": 3874.6400000000003, "text": " I can't see the back." }, { "start": 3874.6400000000003, "end": 3875.6400000000003, "text": " I can't see the back." }, { "start": 3875.64, "end": 3880.18, "text": " I mean are you gonna fake stab yourself?" }, { "start": 3880.18, "end": 3882.18, "text": " Yeah like a slight, a little slightly..." }, { "start": 3882.18, "end": 3890.18, "text": " What if LG sold a slightly..." }, { "start": 3890.18, "end": 3892.18, "text": " We're the dumbest people." }, { "start": 3892.18, "end": 3897.18, "text": " Slightly larger phone and then that was the stylus for you." }, { "start": 3897.18, "end": 3899.18, "text": " Let me jot this down." }, { "start": 3899.18, "end": 3903.18, "text": " Yeah, and then you draw on this with the..." }, { "start": 3903.18, "end": 3906.18, "text": " Let me jot this down. Go on." }, { "start": 3906.18, "end": 3912.18, "text": " Let me just sign off on that." }, { "start": 3912.18, "end": 3918.18, "text": " You know if Samsung could convince people that they needed a third smartphone like your device?" }, { "start": 3918.18, "end": 3920.18, "text": " I've got a terrible itch here." }, { "start": 3920.18, "end": 3923.18, "text": " We can't send this back now." }, { "start": 3923.18, "end": 3926.18, "text": " That has my skin, flakes of my skin all over it." }, { "start": 3926.18, "end": 3928.18, "text": " Okay, but seriously, let's get real." }, { "start": 3928.18, "end": 3929.18, "text": " Speaking of television." }, { "start": 3929.18, "end": 3930.18, "text": " My God." }, { "start": 3930.18, "end": 3931.18, "text": " There's a rumor that Apple..." }, { "start": 3931.18, "end": 3932.18, "text": " No." }, { "start": 3932.18, "end": 3933.18, "text": " There's a rumor that LG..." }, { "start": 3933.18, "end": 3934.18, "text": " Google." }, { "start": 3934.18, "end": 3935.18, "text": " There's a rumor that Google..." }, { "start": 3935.18, "end": 3936.18, "text": " Stop." }, { "start": 3936.18, "end": 3937.18, "text": " Nexus TV." }, { "start": 3937.18, "end": 3938.18, "text": " There's a rumor that some company that we've covered..." }, { "start": 3938.18, "end": 3939.18, "text": " Rumored by a site called The Information." }, { "start": 3939.18, "end": 3940.18, "text": " Brand new site." }, { "start": 3940.18, "end": 3941.18, "text": " The Information." }, { "start": 3941.18, "end": 3942.18, "text": " Brand new site." }, { "start": 3942.18, "end": 3943.18, "text": " It's only $39 a month." }, { "start": 3943.18, "end": 3944.18, "text": " Yep." }, { "start": 3944.18, "end": 3945.18, "text": " And they have a report." }, { "start": 3945.18, "end": 3947.18, "text": " But you can't put a price on this content." }, { "start": 3947.18, "end": 3954.18, "text": " You can't put a price on an obfuscated rumor that Google is launching something called the Nexus TV." }, { "start": 3954.18, "end": 3955.18, "text": " Nexus TV." }, { "start": 3955.18, "end": 3956.18, "text": " We play Android games." }, { "start": 3956.18, "end": 3957.18, "text": " It's..." }, { "start": 3957.18, "end": 3958.18, "text": " That we'll play Android games." }, { "start": 3958.18, "end": 3959.18, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3959.18, "end": 3960.18, "text": " That's what you've wanted on your TV." }, { "start": 3960.18, "end": 3961.18, "text": " Wild success so far." }, { "start": 3961.18, "end": 3962.18, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3962.18, "end": 3963.18, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3963.18, "end": 3967.18, "text": " And then on top of that, today Apple released a bunch of new channels for the Apple TV," }, { "start": 3967.18, "end": 3973.18, "text": " including WatchABC, Bloomberg, and my favorite zombie television service that no one uses" }, { "start": 3973.18, "end": 3975.18, "text": " but is everywhere, Crackle." }, { "start": 3975.18, "end": 3976.18, "text": " What is Crackle?" }, { "start": 3976.18, "end": 3977.18, "text": " Crackle is like Sony's..." }, { "start": 3977.18, "end": 3978.18, "text": " Everywhere." }, { "start": 3978.18, "end": 3979.18, "text": " You know, Sony's fail." }, { "start": 3979.18, "end": 3980.18, "text": " They just won't die." }, { "start": 3980.18, "end": 3981.18, "text": " Oh, you know what I need to do?" }, { "start": 3981.18, "end": 3982.18, "text": " Is it a Sony fail?" }, { "start": 3982.18, "end": 3983.18, "text": " You know what I need to do?" }, { "start": 3983.18, "end": 3984.18, "text": " I believe Crackle is a Sony fail." }, { "start": 3984.18, "end": 3985.18, "text": " I need to buy a Roku 3." }, { "start": 3985.18, "end": 3986.18, "text": " You know what?" }, { "start": 3986.18, "end": 3987.18, "text": " Roku 3 is really good." }, { "start": 3987.18, "end": 3988.18, "text": " I need to buy a Roku 3." }, { "start": 3988.18, "end": 3991.18, "text": " They've taken blood money from a bunch of services." }, { "start": 3991.18, "end": 3992.74, "text": " They've got a bunch of crap on the home screen." }, { "start": 3992.74, "end": 3994.2599999999998, "text": " That search stuff is really powerful though." }, { "start": 3994.2599999999998, "end": 3995.2599999999998, "text": " The search stuff is great." }, { "start": 3995.2599999999998, "end": 3996.2599999999998, "text": " And I have been..." }, { "start": 3996.2599999999998, "end": 3998.62, "text": " So we've been watching The Good Wife on Amazon." }, { "start": 3998.62, "end": 4000.18, "text": " Yeah, Crackle is owned by Sony." }, { "start": 4000.18, "end": 4003.94, "text": " We've been watching The Good Wife on Amazon, which by the way, Good Wife, amazing show" }, { "start": 4003.94, "end": 4004.94, "text": " if you're not watching it." }, { "start": 4004.94, "end": 4005.94, "text": " Thank you for coming to it, yeah." }, { "start": 4005.94, "end": 4008.7, "text": " A bunch of lawyers lawyering on it." }, { "start": 4008.7, "end": 4009.94, "text": " Yeah, yeah." }, { "start": 4009.94, "end": 4010.94, "text": " But here's the thing." }, { "start": 4010.94, "end": 4014.4199999999996, "text": " I've been like using the Xbox One because it's the easiest thing to get." }, { "start": 4014.4199999999996, "end": 4015.4199999999996, "text": " How do you like the Xbox?" }, { "start": 4015.4199999999996, "end": 4016.4199999999996, "text": " It's been how long?" }, { "start": 4016.4199999999996, "end": 4017.4199999999996, "text": " A couple weeks now for you?" }, { "start": 4017.42, "end": 4018.66, "text": " Yeah, the whole thing about the..." }, { "start": 4018.66, "end": 4022.54, "text": " The Xbox One is out of control crazy, like weird and bad in some ways." }, { "start": 4022.54, "end": 4023.54, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4023.54, "end": 4026.3, "text": " Like it is doing things in my living room that are inappropriate." }, { "start": 4026.3, "end": 4027.94, "text": " Do you have your cable watch all the time?" }, { "start": 4027.94, "end": 4029.46, "text": " No, it is doing things that are inappropriate." }, { "start": 4029.46, "end": 4030.7400000000002, "text": " Like I'll pause a game." }, { "start": 4030.7400000000002, "end": 4033.94, "text": " I'm like playing Dead Rising 3 surrounded by hordes of zombies." }, { "start": 4033.94, "end": 4035.42, "text": " Pause, I got some food delivered." }, { "start": 4035.42, "end": 4036.42, "text": " I'm going to have a snack." }, { "start": 4036.42, "end": 4037.9, "text": " Like I'm eating." }, { "start": 4037.9, "end": 4038.9, "text": " Nothing's going on in the room." }, { "start": 4038.9, "end": 4040.98, "text": " The game unpauses and the zombies are..." }, { "start": 4040.98, "end": 4044.98, "text": " I literally was on the third floor of my house and I heard..." }, { "start": 4044.98, "end": 4049.34, "text": " It was like pause and then like, and I was like, no." }, { "start": 4049.34, "end": 4053.22, "text": " And I started running down the steps like, no." }, { "start": 4053.22, "end": 4054.78, "text": " My guy was like, there are zombies." }, { "start": 4054.78, "end": 4056.26, "text": " I'm like, no, pause." }, { "start": 4056.26, "end": 4059.14, "text": " Like it's listening and hearing things that aren't happening." }, { "start": 4059.14, "end": 4062.94, "text": " The other day, Laura was saying something to me that it was unpausing it." }, { "start": 4062.94, "end": 4065.66, "text": " She wasn't saying anything that remotely sounded like unpause." }, { "start": 4065.66, "end": 4066.66, "text": " Like it's insane." }, { "start": 4066.66, "end": 4068.7400000000002, "text": " It shouldn't be doing what it's doing." }, { "start": 4068.7400000000002, "end": 4069.7400000000002, "text": " It's not a ghost." }, { "start": 4069.7400000000002, "end": 4070.7400000000002, "text": " It's bad software." }, { "start": 4070.7400000000002, "end": 4071.7400000000002, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4071.7400000000002, "end": 4072.7400000000002, "text": " I just think it's a machine." }, { "start": 4072.7400000000002, "end": 4074.7400000000002, "text": " Do you have your cable watch through it or not?" }, { "start": 4074.74, "end": 4079.2999999999997, "text": " No, I did have it for a minute and then I was like, oh, this is only doing stereo sound." }, { "start": 4079.2999999999997, "end": 4080.2999999999997, "text": " Catch you later." }, { "start": 4080.2999999999997, "end": 4081.2999999999997, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4081.2999999999997, "end": 4082.2999999999997, "text": " I got a Sonos play bar up in this piece." }, { "start": 4082.2999999999997, "end": 4085.3799999999997, "text": " I got to get five, one or get out of my face." }, { "start": 4085.3799999999997, "end": 4088.62, "text": " The only person I know who's left with the TV hooked through it is Chris." }, { "start": 4088.62, "end": 4093.2999999999997, "text": " And I berated him last night until he admitted sheepishly that he would soon unplug it because" }, { "start": 4093.2999999999997, "end": 4094.2999999999997, "text": " it's not good." }, { "start": 4094.2999999999997, "end": 4096.26, "text": " What's the advantage?" }, { "start": 4096.26, "end": 4100.179999999999, "text": " I can get to a channel and then I got to like get the remote to find all the things I want." }, { "start": 4100.18, "end": 4104.9400000000005, "text": " Like, you know, if I want to watch my sons of anarchy on demand, if I want to watch my" }, { "start": 4104.9400000000005, "end": 4107.900000000001, "text": " sons of anarchy on demand, I got to go get the cable remote." }, { "start": 4107.900000000001, "end": 4108.900000000001, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4108.900000000001, "end": 4109.9800000000005, "text": " By the way, sons of anarchy season finale." }, { "start": 4109.9800000000005, "end": 4112.06, "text": " If you haven't seen it, have you been watching it?" }, { "start": 4112.06, "end": 4113.06, "text": " You're not watching it." }, { "start": 4113.06, "end": 4114.06, "text": " Are you watching it?" }, { "start": 4114.06, "end": 4115.06, "text": " I've been watching you tweet about it." }, { "start": 4115.06, "end": 4116.06, "text": " Have you been watching it?" }, { "start": 4116.06, "end": 4117.06, "text": " No, sir." }, { "start": 4117.06, "end": 4118.06, "text": " We got to get there." }, { "start": 4118.06, "end": 4120.06, "text": " Anybody on our team who watches high quality television, like sons of anarchy." }, { "start": 4120.06, "end": 4122.26, "text": " I just finally watched the end of breaking bad." }, { "start": 4122.26, "end": 4123.26, "text": " Can I just say something?" }, { "start": 4123.26, "end": 4124.26, "text": " That's more of a bad end." }, { "start": 4124.26, "end": 4131.26, "text": " The ending, the last episode of this season of sons of anarchy made the worst moments" }, { "start": 4131.26, "end": 4136.76, "text": " of breaking bad look like a day at Disney World." }, { "start": 4136.76, "end": 4139.66, "text": " It's really hard to know if that's good or bad." }, { "start": 4139.66, "end": 4142.9400000000005, "text": " It's hard for me to know as well." }, { "start": 4142.9400000000005, "end": 4145.5, "text": " Just very deeply upset you on several levels." }, { "start": 4145.5, "end": 4146.5, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 4146.5, "end": 4147.5, "text": " Anyhow, what are we talking about?" }, { "start": 4147.5, "end": 4148.5, "text": " Nexus TV." }, { "start": 4148.5, "end": 4149.5, "text": " I got to get a road view." }, { "start": 4149.5, "end": 4150.5, "text": " Oh, Nexus TV." }, { "start": 4150.5, "end": 4151.780000000001, "text": " So what is this?" }, { "start": 4151.780000000001, "end": 4153.360000000001, "text": " So we tried Google TV." }, { "start": 4153.36, "end": 4154.78, "text": " That was a massive failure." }, { "start": 4154.78, "end": 4155.78, "text": " We're doing Chromecast." }, { "start": 4155.78, "end": 4158.78, "text": " I believe Chromecast is a success." }, { "start": 4158.78, "end": 4160.299999999999, "text": " Don't forget the Q." }, { "start": 4160.299999999999, "end": 4162.099999999999, "text": " The Q unreleased product." }, { "start": 4162.099999999999, "end": 4163.66, "text": " Fourth or fifth time's the charm." }, { "start": 4163.66, "end": 4164.66, "text": " But hold on, Chromecast." }, { "start": 4164.66, "end": 4167.94, "text": " Chromecast, if you walk into a Best Buy, it's the first thing you see." }, { "start": 4167.94, "end": 4171.7, "text": " Last night I wanted to watch something on Vimeo." }, { "start": 4171.7, "end": 4173.94, "text": " And I was like, oh, you know, it's like right before I was going to bed, I was like, oh," }, { "start": 4173.94, "end": 4175.78, "text": " I got to watch this video real quick." }, { "start": 4175.78, "end": 4176.78, "text": " And I was like, oh, this is cool." }, { "start": 4176.78, "end": 4178.38, "text": " We have a Chromecast 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4196.62, "text": " That's good." }, { "start": 4196.62, "end": 4197.62, "text": " Is that JavaScript?" }, { "start": 4197.62, "end": 4198.62, "text": " That's JavaScript." }, { "start": 4198.62, "end": 4200.7, "text": " If video playing, then go to Chromecast." }, { "start": 4200.7, "end": 4201.7, "text": " That I just wrote." }, { "start": 4201.7, "end": 4205.219999999999, "text": " By the way, can somebody just put that in a text file and upload it to the web?" }, { "start": 4205.219999999999, "end": 4208.219999999999, "text": " Save it as like fixed.js." }, { "start": 4208.219999999999, "end": 4210.0199999999995, "text": " Yeah, just upload that as an exe." }, { "start": 4210.0199999999995, "end": 4212.0199999999995, "text": " This is why AirPlay works, right?" }, { "start": 4212.02, "end": 4213.02, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4213.02, "end": 4214.02, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4214.02, "end": 4215.02, "text": " Yes, this is why AirPlay works." }, { "start": 4215.02, "end": 4219.5, "text": " At some point, Google needs to support something like AirPlay where it can move stuff locally." }, { "start": 4219.5, "end": 4220.5, "text": " AirPlay is so good." }, { "start": 4220.5, "end": 4223.34, "text": " Fundamentally, as a company, they think it's better to stream over the internet than over" }, { "start": 4223.34, "end": 4226.38, "text": " your, the internet to your device and then from your device to the TV." }, { "start": 4226.38, "end": 4227.38, "text": " No, that makes sense." }, { "start": 4227.38, "end": 4228.38, "text": " And that's true in many ways." }, { "start": 4228.38, "end": 4230.38, "text": " It makes sense that they have to get app developers on board." }, { "start": 4230.38, "end": 4231.38, "text": " But that's-" }, { "start": 4231.38, "end": 4234.06, "text": " And like our videos need to be able to go on Chromecast." }, { "start": 4234.06, "end": 4235.06, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 4235.06, "end": 4236.06, "text": " Or they need to do it from YouTube." }, { "start": 4236.06, "end": 4237.06, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4237.06, "end": 4241.42, "text": " That's how, like I've been using my Chromecast more and I switched to Google Play because" }, { "start": 4241.42, "end": 4243.14, "text": " it's really convenient to do." }, { "start": 4243.14, "end": 4246.9, "text": " And it's just like, I rented a movie last night and I was like, and usually my, my MO" }, { "start": 4246.9, "end": 4250.1, "text": " is I turn on the Apple TV because it's faster than the Xbox 360." }, { "start": 4250.1, "end": 4252.06, "text": " And then I hit the D-pad for like 45 minutes." }, { "start": 4252.06, "end": 4254.66, "text": " So I find something I like and then I watch it." }, { "start": 4254.66, "end": 4258.2, "text": " But I, I'm just opening up the Play Store on the Android phone." }, { "start": 4258.2, "end": 4260.58, "text": " You can just like scroll through on your phone while you're walking around doing this stuff." }, { "start": 4260.58, "end": 4262.22, "text": " Oh wait, this one, play it." }, { "start": 4262.22, "end": 4265.2, "text": " And then, you know, you could pause it from the phone." }, { "start": 4265.2, "end": 4266.2, "text": " It's nice." }, { "start": 4266.2, "end": 4267.9400000000005, "text": " No, I mean, it's weird." }, { "start": 4267.9400000000005, "end": 4268.9400000000005, "text": " But you have to wait for stuff to work." }, { "start": 4268.94, "end": 4272.62, "text": " I use the Chromecast in both my office upstairs and my house." }, { "start": 4272.62, "end": 4275.86, "text": " I have a Chromecast and Apple TV plugged into the television." }, { "start": 4275.86, "end": 4280.54, "text": " And I use the Chromecast more here because I send more things like worky things, the" }, { "start": 4280.54, "end": 4284.7, "text": " TV and like tabs and like we look at stuff and at home it's all Apple TV." }, { "start": 4284.7, "end": 4285.7, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4285.7, "end": 4286.7, "text": " That's the, I'm doing, I do the same." }, { "start": 4286.7, "end": 4288.5, "text": " I mean, I don't use Chromecast at all, but what I realized." }, { "start": 4288.5, "end": 4289.98, "text": " It's the same, but it's not." }, { "start": 4289.98, "end": 4291.66, "text": " No, I mean, I want, I want to use it." }, { "start": 4291.66, "end": 4292.66, "text": " It just doesn't, it doesn't work." }, { "start": 4292.66, "end": 4293.66, "text": " For worky things." }, { "start": 4293.66, "end": 4294.66, "text": " No, for worky things." }, { "start": 4294.66, "end": 4295.66, "text": " I don't need to do that." }, { "start": 4295.66, "end": 4303.139999999999, "text": " I realized like I need to stop buying stuff on iTunes because it's like my only, my only" }, { "start": 4303.139999999999, "end": 4305.46, "text": " option is to play it on the Apple TV at this point." }, { "start": 4305.46, "end": 4307.66, "text": " Like I'm not doing anything else where I can play it." }, { "start": 4307.66, "end": 4310.94, "text": " So I think what, that's why I want to get a Roku because the only problem is it doesn't" }, { "start": 4310.94, "end": 4312.599999999999, "text": " do the bouncing." }, { "start": 4312.599999999999, "end": 4314.58, "text": " Like I still want to be able to bounce stuff over there." }, { "start": 4314.58, "end": 4316.94, "text": " Like why didn't they build it into the Xbox one?" }, { "start": 4316.94, "end": 4320.3, "text": " Like why didn't they make it part of the smart glass experience that you could like screen" }, { "start": 4320.3, "end": 4323.139999999999, "text": " share or something like, okay, anyhow, that's, that's off topic." }, { "start": 4323.14, "end": 4328.18, "text": " But yeah, like, well, it's not really, I mean, if you look at this stuff, it's this, you" }, { "start": 4328.18, "end": 4331.38, "text": " know, we ran a report on the, on the next, did we actually run that?" }, { "start": 4331.38, "end": 4332.38, "text": " No, we're still writing it." }, { "start": 4332.38, "end": 4333.38, "text": " It's sitting there." }, { "start": 4333.38, "end": 4337.76, "text": " But we have a quote in this forthcoming report from an analyst who's like the only, the only" }, { "start": 4337.76, "end": 4341.46, "text": " company that has a hold on the living room as this platform is Microsoft right now." }, { "start": 4341.46, "end": 4342.46, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 4342.46, "end": 4343.9400000000005, "text": " And it's because of the Xbox 360, now the Xbox one." }, { "start": 4343.9400000000005, "end": 4348.34, "text": " And the more I use the Xbox one, I'm like, they didn't finish this." }, { "start": 4348.34, "end": 4349.34, "text": " No." }, { "start": 4349.34, "end": 4350.34, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4350.34, "end": 4351.34, "text": " There's nothing about it." }, { "start": 4351.34, "end": 4357.860000000001, "text": " So they could get, if they could, is there even an IR blaster option for what, for the" }, { "start": 4357.860000000001, "end": 4358.860000000001, "text": " Xbox one?" }, { "start": 4358.860000000001, "end": 4360.18, "text": " It is an IR, like the whole thing is IR." }, { "start": 4360.18, "end": 4362.900000000001, "text": " No, but to control like on demand and stuff." }, { "start": 4362.900000000001, "end": 4363.900000000001, "text": " No." }, { "start": 4363.900000000001, "end": 4364.900000000001, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 4364.900000000001, "end": 4365.900000000001, "text": " So there's no option there." }, { "start": 4365.900000000001, "end": 4370.74, "text": " I wouldn't be willing to put my TV through it if it was a more completely encompassing" }, { "start": 4370.74, "end": 4375.46, "text": " experience where I did all the things I needed it to do, like where I could send photos to" }, { "start": 4375.46, "end": 4378.9400000000005, "text": " it or send video to it and all these other things that I'm using the Apple TV for and" }, { "start": 4378.94, "end": 4383.62, "text": " you know, random, you know, I'm using my cable box because the on demand functions work properly." }, { "start": 4383.62, "end": 4386.099999999999, "text": " Like I actually love the, it's a blue ray player." }, { "start": 4386.099999999999, "end": 4392.139999999999, "text": " I love the idea of the Xbox one as a single solution for your living room." }, { "start": 4392.139999999999, "end": 4397.16, "text": " I think it's actually the closest that anybody's gotten in terms of a real commercial product." }, { "start": 4397.16, "end": 4398.94, "text": " It just didn't go far enough." }, { "start": 4398.94, "end": 4400.66, "text": " And it's so messy." }, { "start": 4400.66, "end": 4405.5, "text": " It's a mess and it's hard to use and the voice commands are janky and it's like, you know," }, { "start": 4405.5, "end": 4410.58, "text": " it just doesn't feel like a finished product and it's frustrating because you see how close" }, { "start": 4410.58, "end": 4413.74, "text": " we actually are to getting it." }, { "start": 4413.74, "end": 4417.26, "text": " I just realized, it's like check out crackle now on the Apple TV." }, { "start": 4417.26, "end": 4420.14, "text": " I don't use flex and crackle." }, { "start": 4420.14, "end": 4423.7, "text": " I'm just waiting so desperately for an Apple TV." }, { "start": 4423.7, "end": 4424.7, "text": " Downton Abbey?" }, { "start": 4424.7, "end": 4425.7, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4425.7, "end": 4426.7, "text": " Downton Abbey, front line." }, { "start": 4426.7, "end": 4427.7, "text": " Oh really?" }, { "start": 4427.7, "end": 4428.7, "text": " Oh, okay." }, { "start": 4428.7, "end": 4433.26, "text": " I'm waiting so badly for an Apple TV with an app store or even if the Xbox or PS4 got" }, { "start": 4433.26, "end": 4438.860000000001, "text": " a real actual app store because there's something really great about your phone that when you're" }, { "start": 4438.860000000001, "end": 4443.66, "text": " sitting there on your phone and you're kind of bored, you can just open up the app store" }, { "start": 4443.66, "end": 4447.02, "text": " and find something amazing all of the time." }, { "start": 4447.02, "end": 4453.3, "text": " And I just feel like a sucker for buying the Xbox one just because I'm going to go on the" }, { "start": 4453.3, "end": 4459.3, "text": " app store and there's like five apps on there that are clearly like contractual agreements" }, { "start": 4459.3, "end": 4461.3, "text": " between Microsoft and another company." }, { "start": 4461.3, "end": 4467.58, "text": " This actually reminds me of like I had this experience with the one where Laura and I" }, { "start": 4467.58, "end": 4473.06, "text": " are sort of joking because there's problems but then we were watching the Good Wife and" }, { "start": 4473.06, "end": 4476.22, "text": " we were trying to find the episode we were on and I was doing the thing where you hold" }, { "start": 4476.22, "end": 4479.9800000000005, "text": " your hand out and you close your hand and you can use it to scroll." }, { "start": 4479.9800000000005, "end": 4481.96, "text": " But I got to tell you something." }, { "start": 4481.96, "end": 4485.42, "text": " It was working really well and I was doing this and scrolling through." }, { "start": 4485.42, "end": 4488.06, "text": " How far away do you have your sensor?" }, { "start": 4488.06, "end": 4489.9800000000005, "text": " It's like eight feet or something." }, { "start": 4489.9800000000005, "end": 4491.26, "text": " It's not very far away." }, { "start": 4491.26, "end": 4493.18, "text": " And I was like, this is awesome." }, { "start": 4493.18, "end": 4495.02, "text": " This is crazy what I'm doing right now." }, { "start": 4495.02, "end": 4499.5, "text": " I'm sitting in my living room and I'm scrolling my TV using this crazy minority report gesture" }, { "start": 4499.5, "end": 4502.5, "text": " and then it went completely haywire." }, { "start": 4502.5, "end": 4506.54, "text": " Then later on that same day or in an hour or something we were watching episode and" }, { "start": 4506.54, "end": 4511.34, "text": " I was taking a sip of my drink and I thought that my hand drinking was like the hand on" }, { "start": 4511.34, "end": 4514.9800000000005, "text": " the screen and it stopped the show and then it like rewound it back." }, { "start": 4514.9800000000005, "end": 4515.9800000000005, "text": " Then I was like, no." }, { "start": 4515.9800000000005, "end": 4518.42, "text": " And I tried to put my hand down and it rewound it back to the beginning of the episode." }, { "start": 4518.42, "end": 4522.78, "text": " I'm like, yeah, this is not this amazing experience that you want it to be." }, { "start": 4522.78, "end": 4524.14, "text": " This is actually really frustrating." }, { "start": 4524.14, "end": 4527.42, "text": " I have started saying Xbox pause and Xbox play." }, { "start": 4527.42, "end": 4528.42, "text": " I do that a lot." }, { "start": 4528.42, "end": 4530.64, "text": " I don't have to power on the controller." }, { "start": 4530.64, "end": 4535.46, "text": " But the other day I literally sat down on my couch and it was like the screen is great" }, { "start": 4535.46, "end": 4536.9400000000005, "text": " because I've been away from it for a bit." }, { "start": 4536.9400000000005, "end": 4539.34, "text": " I think I was browsing the app store or something like that." }, { "start": 4539.34, "end": 4543.06, "text": " I was like Xbox and I was like, oh, right." }, { "start": 4543.06, "end": 4545.06, "text": " I literally said that out loud." }, { "start": 4545.06, "end": 4549.46, "text": " You know what, I'm going to pick up the controller and just do this for real." }, { "start": 4549.46, "end": 4552.740000000001, "text": " He keeps trying to snap things when I don't want them to snap." }, { "start": 4552.740000000001, "end": 4554.660000000001, "text": " Your Xbox is very clearly defective." }, { "start": 4554.660000000001, "end": 4555.660000000001, "text": " It is very sensitive." }, { "start": 4555.660000000001, "end": 4556.660000000001, "text": " Or like haunted." }, { "start": 4556.660000000001, "end": 4557.660000000001, "text": " Yeah, I know." }, { "start": 4557.660000000001, "end": 4558.660000000001, "text": " It's like snap Amazon." }, { "start": 4558.660000000001, "end": 4561.660000000001, "text": " I'm like, why would I snap Amazon to the size of the screen?" }, { "start": 4561.660000000001, "end": 4562.900000000001, "text": " What am I going to do with that?" }, { "start": 4562.900000000001, "end": 4567.96, "text": " The technology that's in the new Kinect is so expensive and so much more powerful and" }, { "start": 4567.96, "end": 4572.820000000001, "text": " it seems like it's just so just marginally better than the last one." }, { "start": 4572.820000000001, "end": 4573.820000000001, "text": " Yeah, it is." }, { "start": 4573.82, "end": 4576.66, "text": " I see you a little better, but then everything on the back end is worse." }, { "start": 4576.66, "end": 4578.86, "text": " But I will say this, like I don't dead rising three." }, { "start": 4578.86, "end": 4583.9, "text": " I will say even seeing you stuff like those games like like if you look at like the Kinect" }, { "start": 4583.9, "end": 4588.099999999999, "text": " sports adventure, I complained about this last time about the setup of the visual things" }, { "start": 4588.099999999999, "end": 4589.099999999999, "text": " stuff." }, { "start": 4589.099999999999, "end": 4592.299999999999, "text": " I finally moved my my Kinect sensor to the far side of my room." }, { "start": 4592.299999999999, "end": 4593.299999999999, "text": " Is it better?" }, { "start": 4593.299999999999, "end": 4597.299999999999, "text": " Well, I haven't like turned it on yet, but Zutech worst game ever made worst game I've" }, { "start": 4597.299999999999, "end": 4598.299999999999, "text": " ever played." }, { "start": 4598.299999999999, "end": 4599.299999999999, "text": " Zutech." }, { "start": 4599.299999999999, "end": 4600.299999999999, "text": " We should probably talk about the thing." }, { "start": 4600.299999999999, "end": 4601.82, "text": " It's funny that we start complaining about the Xbox." }, { "start": 4601.82, "end": 4602.82, "text": " The thing?" }, { "start": 4602.82, "end": 4604.82, "text": " So here's the thing about Nexus TV." }, { "start": 4604.82, "end": 4606.7, "text": " Oh, Nexus TV." }, { "start": 4606.7, "end": 4609.139999999999, "text": " I can't tell you why they're building such a thing." }, { "start": 4609.139999999999, "end": 4610.139999999999, "text": " I have an idea." }, { "start": 4610.139999999999, "end": 4611.139999999999, "text": " Because they're Google?" }, { "start": 4611.139999999999, "end": 4614.9, "text": " Other than just sort of like a no, but like they've already failed at this like a hundred" }, { "start": 4614.9, "end": 4615.94, "text": " times, right?" }, { "start": 4615.94, "end": 4619.9, "text": " Other than this like sort of need everybody feels like we've got to get in the living" }, { "start": 4619.9, "end": 4621.98, "text": " room and like do something there." }, { "start": 4621.98, "end": 4624.139999999999, "text": " But what like that's so open." }, { "start": 4624.139999999999, "end": 4625.139999999999, "text": " Like I don't know what you do." }, { "start": 4625.139999999999, "end": 4626.139999999999, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 4626.139999999999, "end": 4627.139999999999, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 4627.139999999999, "end": 4628.139999999999, "text": " It's the same reason everybody's building a watch." }, { "start": 4628.139999999999, "end": 4629.139999999999, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 4629.139999999999, "end": 4630.139999999999, "text": " It's like this hot pressure." }, { "start": 4630.139999999999, "end": 4631.7, "text": " No, it's hunt for like the next big growth." }, { "start": 4631.7, "end": 4634.66, "text": " I mean, what's amazing about people building a watch is it's literally all spurred by the" }, { "start": 4634.66, "end": 4636.3, "text": " rumor that Apple is going to build a watch." }, { "start": 4636.3, "end": 4639.94, "text": " So it's about the Google Play Store, because if you buy an iPhone, you know, you've got" }, { "start": 4639.94, "end": 4642.34, "text": " iTunes and you know, you can watch that on the Apple TV." }, { "start": 4642.34, "end": 4643.78, "text": " You can watch it on your phone." }, { "start": 4643.78, "end": 4645.5199999999995, "text": " You can watch it on your tablet." }, { "start": 4645.5199999999995, "end": 4648.38, "text": " If you buy an Android phone, you're like, what do I do with this stuff?" }, { "start": 4648.38, "end": 4650.179999999999, "text": " I'm not going to buy a movie from Google Play." }, { "start": 4650.179999999999, "end": 4653.22, "text": " So they just they swung for the fences with Google TV." }, { "start": 4653.22, "end": 4656.0599999999995, "text": " They completely whiffed." }, { "start": 4656.0599999999995, "end": 4660.179999999999, "text": " They tried to get it like a double with the Nexus Q and that was a huge fail." }, { "start": 4660.18, "end": 4662.34, "text": " So they just get in the game." }, { "start": 4662.34, "end": 4663.34, "text": " They just did." }, { "start": 4663.34, "end": 4667.18, "text": " I think Chromecast is like, and they're going to take on Roku and I mean, I'll be that like" }, { "start": 4667.18, "end": 4671.38, "text": " let's not discount, by the way, how badly they blew with the Google TV." }, { "start": 4671.38, "end": 4672.38, "text": " So bad." }, { "start": 4672.38, "end": 4673.38, "text": " I mean, they were there on stage." }, { "start": 4673.38, "end": 4674.38, "text": " It was a I.O." }, { "start": 4674.38, "end": 4676.06, "text": " He's like, today we change television." }, { "start": 4676.06, "end": 4677.780000000001, "text": " And then it completely failed." }, { "start": 4677.780000000001, "end": 4679.3, "text": " I was pretty incredible." }, { "start": 4679.3, "end": 4680.3, "text": " Also, I was right." }, { "start": 4680.3, "end": 4681.3, "text": " Yeah, yeah." }, { "start": 4681.3, "end": 4682.9400000000005, "text": " You were threats in the mail." }, { "start": 4682.9400000000005, "end": 4683.9400000000005, "text": " You didn't get that." }, { "start": 4683.9400000000005, "end": 4686.780000000001, "text": " And they people were very crazy about that." }, { "start": 4686.78, "end": 4691.5, "text": " They got a little bit further with the cable companies than Microsoft did because they" }, { "start": 4691.5, "end": 4694.58, "text": " had that they had a relation with like, oh, it was this network." }, { "start": 4694.58, "end": 4695.58, "text": " Here's what I think." }, { "start": 4695.58, "end": 4696.58, "text": " They'll do it." }, { "start": 4696.58, "end": 4697.58, "text": " I think the T-Mobile of television." }, { "start": 4697.58, "end": 4702.38, "text": " I think this could just be the effect of my addition." }, { "start": 4702.38, "end": 4703.38, "text": " I work in T-Mobile shit together." }, { "start": 4703.38, "end": 4704.38, "text": " Oh, my God." }, { "start": 4704.38, "end": 4706.179999999999, "text": " This could just be effective marketing." }, { "start": 4706.179999999999, "end": 4708.94, "text": " But was it Tom had the piece about Chromebooks?" }, { "start": 4708.94, "end": 4709.94, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4709.94, "end": 4710.94, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4710.94, "end": 4714.98, "text": " I just carry Chromebooks and like, call me crazy, but Chromebooks seem to really be making" }, { "start": 4714.98, "end": 4717.179999999999, "text": " an impact in terms of like laptop buying." }, { "start": 4717.179999999999, "end": 4718.179999999999, "text": " No." }, { "start": 4718.179999999999, "end": 4720.0199999999995, "text": " Well, they're like the number one laptop." 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"text": " I will say that that ad, the Pondstar's one, I was like, all I take away from this is that" }, { "start": 4743.94, "end": 4744.94, "text": " Chromebooks exist." }, { "start": 4744.94, "end": 4745.94, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4745.94, "end": 4746.94, "text": " That Chromebooks are a thing." }, { "start": 4746.94, "end": 4749.48, "text": " And if you didn't know about them, like, I'm kind of like, what's a Chromebook?" }, { "start": 4749.48, "end": 4750.48, "text": " Those ads are so poorly made." }, { "start": 4750.48, "end": 4751.48, "text": " They're so bad." }, { "start": 4751.48, "end": 4752.48, "text": " It's out of control." }, { "start": 4752.48, "end": 4753.48, "text": " But here's what I think." }, { "start": 4753.48, "end": 4758.0599999999995, "text": " I think that the Google TV is of a kind with what they're doing with Chromecast and what" }, { "start": 4758.0599999999995, "end": 4760.82, "text": " they're doing with Chromebooks." }, { "start": 4760.82, "end": 4770.24, "text": " I think less the Nexus 7 for sure, that they are trying to create a suite of consumer products" }, { "start": 4770.24, "end": 4775.78, "text": " that serve the belief of certain consumer needs need to be met." }, { "start": 4775.78, "end": 4776.86, "text": " Like a box." }, { "start": 4776.86, "end": 4780.04, "text": " The Chromecast is interesting, but it's like a confection." }, { "start": 4780.04, "end": 4783.58, "text": " People understand a box that does video stuff that attaches to your TV." }, { "start": 4783.58, "end": 4784.86, "text": " Yeah, because Chromecast is hard to understand." }, { "start": 4784.86, "end": 4790.42, "text": " I think if they sold a $99 box or a $75 box or whatever they're going to charge for this" }, { "start": 4790.42, "end": 4793.74, "text": " thing, that they showed it, they marketed it the way they marketed the Nexus 7 and the" }, { "start": 4793.74, "end": 4797.38, "text": " Chromecast and the Chromebook, where people are playing video games and it's super cheap" }, { "start": 4797.38, "end": 4799.82, "text": " and there's all these video apps on it and blah, blah, blah." }, { "start": 4799.82, "end": 4802.0599999999995, "text": " I think they see an opportunity there." }, { "start": 4802.0599999999995, "end": 4804.46, "text": " I don't think they think Apple has won that battleground." }, { "start": 4804.46, "end": 4806.62, "text": " I don't think they think Roku has won that battleground." }, { "start": 4806.62, "end": 4811.98, "text": " I think they went too far with the Google TV." }, { "start": 4811.98, "end": 4815.74, "text": " The Chromecast is sort of almost like a weird nerd item." }, { "start": 4815.74, "end": 4818.48, "text": " I don't know that normal people understand." }, { "start": 4818.48, "end": 4819.54, "text": " It's $35." }, { "start": 4819.54, "end": 4820.54, "text": " I walked into a Best Buy." }, { "start": 4820.54, "end": 4821.54, "text": " Are they selling them?" }, { "start": 4821.54, "end": 4823.219999999999, "text": " Do people understand what they are?" }, { "start": 4823.219999999999, "end": 4824.78, "text": " That's my question." }, { "start": 4824.78, "end": 4829.139999999999, "text": " They have huge end caps in Best Buys." }, { "start": 4829.14, "end": 4830.14, "text": " The end cap is empty." }, { "start": 4830.14, "end": 4832.780000000001, "text": " Yeah, like on Black Friday they were virtually, they have $35." }, { "start": 4832.780000000001, "end": 4833.780000000001, "text": " People are just buying it." }, { "start": 4833.780000000001, "end": 4836.700000000001, "text": " It's just like another end cap like plugged into the side of the box." }, { "start": 4836.700000000001, "end": 4841.1, "text": " So the only question could be, I need YouTube on my TV with this." }, { "start": 4841.1, "end": 4843.820000000001, "text": " So what could the advantage be to making a box?" }, { "start": 4843.820000000001, "end": 4844.820000000001, "text": " I could not." }, { "start": 4844.820000000001, "end": 4850.58, "text": " The advantage to them is they don't have a hole in their ecosystem anymore that convinces" }, { "start": 4850.58, "end": 4851.58, "text": " people not to buy any more stuff." }, { "start": 4851.58, "end": 4852.58, "text": " But can they do this?" }, { "start": 4852.58, "end": 4854.9400000000005, "text": " This is why everyone thinks Amazon is going to make a box." }, { "start": 4854.9400000000005, "end": 4857.5, "text": " You know what Amazon should do?" }, { "start": 4857.5, "end": 4858.5, "text": " You know what Amazon should do?" }, { "start": 4858.5, "end": 4860.1, "text": " There are a lot of people for whom that makes sense." }, { "start": 4860.1, "end": 4862.58, "text": " Like here's a bunch of Amazon stuff." }, { "start": 4862.58, "end": 4864.58, "text": " If Roku, Microsoft." }, { "start": 4864.58, "end": 4868.18, "text": " Roku is really, getting a Roku is still kind of a nerdy." }, { "start": 4868.18, "end": 4869.18, "text": " Wrong." }, { "start": 4869.18, "end": 4870.5, "text": " I think a lot of people are buying Rokus." }, { "start": 4870.5, "end": 4872.06, "text": " No, I've given a lot of people Rokus." }, { "start": 4872.06, "end": 4875.22, "text": " I think like old people, young people, smart people, dumb people." }, { "start": 4875.22, "end": 4880.34, "text": " The staff that Roku always gives me is quarter by quarter it's either them or Apple TV depending" }, { "start": 4880.34, "end": 4883.7, "text": " on who has a new product out in terms of being number one in the US." }, { "start": 4883.7, "end": 4888.62, "text": " I don't disagree but what I'm saying for Amazon, Roku is like a window into their service and" }, { "start": 4888.62, "end": 4890.54, "text": " then it's a window into a hundred different services." }, { "start": 4890.54, "end": 4894.54, "text": " For Amazon to make a box they sell for $30 or whatever Amazon cheap number." }, { "start": 4894.54, "end": 4895.54, "text": " With offers, free with offers." }, { "start": 4895.54, "end": 4896.54, "text": " Free with offers." }, { "start": 4896.54, "end": 4897.54, "text": " Amazon." }, { "start": 4897.54, "end": 4899.38, "text": " And have it be like here's your ecosystem, you pay for Prime." }, { "start": 4899.38, "end": 4901.0599999999995, "text": " Some of these videos are free, some are a dollar." }, { "start": 4901.0599999999995, "end": 4904.94, "text": " Amazon needs to friggin' make a Blu-ray player." }, { "start": 4904.94, "end": 4905.94, "text": " What is wrong with you?" }, { "start": 4905.94, "end": 4906.94, "text": " I mean the thing about the." }, { "start": 4906.94, "end": 4908.5, "text": " Yeah because you've got Amazon Prime." }, { "start": 4908.5, "end": 4911.38, "text": " No actually if it played Blu-rays and DVDs." }, { "start": 4911.38, "end": 4914.1, "text": " There's a lot of people who feel like they need to get." }, { "start": 4914.1, "end": 4916.3, "text": " Right you buy a Blu-ray and you play it on your Amazon box." }, { "start": 4916.3, "end": 4920.58, "text": " Or you end up getting your like PS3 or your Xbox One or PS4 or whatever because it's got" }, { "start": 4920.58, "end": 4921.58, "text": " a Blu-ray player." }, { "start": 4921.58, "end": 4923.62, "text": " That's a big value add." }, { "start": 4923.62, "end": 4930.5, "text": " And Amazon is the one company that really benefits from making a box that plays Blu-rays" }, { "start": 4930.5, "end": 4935.34, "text": " that you can also order Blu-rays from with free shipping because you have Amazon Prime." }, { "start": 4935.34, "end": 4937.18, "text": " Basically flies right into the player." }, { "start": 4937.18, "end": 4938.18, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4938.18, "end": 4942.26, "text": " Just shoots through your mouse slot and slides you into the player." }, { "start": 4942.26, "end": 4943.26, "text": " Like the magic bullet." }, { "start": 4943.26, "end": 4948.700000000001, "text": " No it's a tray so that the drone could just hover right over there." }, { "start": 4948.700000000001, "end": 4951.34, "text": " Oh right and drop it onto the tray and it slides right in." }, { "start": 4951.34, "end": 4954.26, "text": " Targeted outdoor Blu-ray player." }, { "start": 4954.26, "end": 4955.26, "text": " The drone flies over you." }, { "start": 4955.26, "end": 4956.26, "text": " We're going to create what's going to happen." }, { "start": 4956.26, "end": 4957.26, "text": " It swaps your catheter." }, { "start": 4957.26, "end": 4960.46, "text": " Soon we'll all have holes in our house like kind of like a chimney." }, { "start": 4960.46, "end": 4961.46, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4961.46, "end": 4965.14, "text": " That's the size of a Blu-ray disc that will lead down to the where it can just drop into" }, { "start": 4965.14, "end": 4967.860000000001, "text": " a tray and the drones will just drop your latest." }, { "start": 4967.86, "end": 4968.86, "text": " It's Santa Claus 2.0." }, { "start": 4968.86, "end": 4969.86, "text": " That's right." }, { "start": 4969.86, "end": 4970.86, "text": " Jeff Bezos." }, { "start": 4970.86, "end": 4971.86, "text": " Santa Claus 2.0." }, { "start": 4971.86, "end": 4972.86, "text": " And that ends another Virgcast." }, { "start": 4972.86, "end": 4977.78, "text": " Yeah that's really where we got to end this." }, { "start": 4977.78, "end": 4978.78, "text": " That's our Virgcast I think." }, { "start": 4978.78, "end": 4979.78, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4979.78, "end": 4980.78, "text": " Is there anything else?" }, { "start": 4980.78, "end": 4981.78, "text": " That's the whole thing." }, { "start": 4981.78, "end": 4982.78, "text": " Hey let's just remember." }, { "start": 4982.78, "end": 4987.66, "text": " Paul Miller is here everybody." }, { "start": 4987.66, "end": 4988.66, "text": " Great stuff." }, { "start": 4988.66, "end": 4991.66, "text": " Wow what a beautiful box to charge on." }, { "start": 4991.66, "end": 4992.66, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4992.66, "end": 4993.66, "text": " Don't leave home without it." }, { "start": 4993.66, "end": 4994.66, "text": " Literally." }, { "start": 4994.66, "end": 4995.66, "text": " Just friggin' don't." }, { "start": 4995.66, "end": 4996.66, "text": " It's great stuff." }, { "start": 4996.66, "end": 4997.98, "text": " Well that's the Virgcast this week." }, { "start": 4997.98, "end": 5002.66, "text": " If you'd like to get in touch with us you can email us at virgcast at the virg.com." }, { "start": 5002.66, "end": 5006.0199999999995, "text": " You can leave a post something in our forums." }, { "start": 5006.0199999999995, "end": 5007.0199999999995, "text": " We like that." }, { "start": 5007.0199999999995, "end": 5008.7, "text": " You can leave a comment on this post when it goes up." }, { "start": 5008.7, "end": 5014.54, "text": " You can make a list of your favorite moments from this Virgcast and build a responsive" }, { "start": 5014.54, "end": 5015.54, "text": " app around it." }, { "start": 5015.54, "end": 5018.22, "text": " Or you can find us on Twitter." }, { "start": 5018.22, "end": 5019.22, "text": " The Virg is at Virg." }, { "start": 5019.22, "end": 5020.22, "text": " I'm Josh Wytopolsky." }, { "start": 5020.22, "end": 5021.22, "text": " Neal I is reckless." }, { "start": 5021.22, "end": 5022.66, "text": " Paul is future Paul." }, { "start": 5022.66, "end": 5024.0599999999995, "text": " And Dieter is back lawn." }, { "start": 5024.06, "end": 5027.54, "text": " And he's got a great story about it that he'd love to tell you sometime over some crumpets" }, { "start": 5027.54, "end": 5028.54, "text": " and tea." }, { "start": 5028.54, "end": 5029.54, "text": " Is crumpet a food item?" }, { "start": 5029.54, "end": 5030.54, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 5030.54, "end": 5031.54, "text": " What is it?" }, { "start": 5031.54, "end": 5032.54, "text": " Have you ever had one?" }, { "start": 5032.54, "end": 5036.02, "text": " In my mind there's a cookie and there's a scone and there's a muffin." }, { "start": 5036.02, "end": 5037.02, "text": " And a crumpet." }, { "start": 5037.02, "end": 5038.02, "text": " Oh it's all those together." }, { "start": 5038.02, "end": 5039.02, "text": " And somehow it's a child." }, { "start": 5039.02, "end": 5042.02, "text": " You just take all of them and smash them together and give someone the ball." }, { "start": 5042.02, "end": 5043.02, "text": " You're like here's the crumpet." }, { "start": 5043.02, "end": 5046.46, "text": " It does kind of sound like it because you crumbled it and then made it into a thing." }, { "start": 5046.46, "end": 5047.46, "text": " Maybe with a doily underneath." }, { "start": 5047.46, "end": 5048.46, "text": " Think about it." }, { "start": 5048.46, "end": 5055.78, "text": " We'll be back next week with more Virg Casti style Virg moves." }, { "start": 5055.78, "end": 5058.02, "text": " And until then you know what?" }, { "start": 5058.02, "end": 5060.74, "text": " You and your family are going to be alright." }, { "start": 5060.74, "end": 5080.86, "text": " J.K." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 2.8000000000000003, "text": " It's Thursday, December 12th, 2013." }, { "start": 2.8000000000000003, "end": 7, "text": " I'm Ross Miller, record holder for the highest snood score in the greater Atlanta area." }, { "start": 7, "end": 8.8, "text": " This is 90 seconds on the verge." }, { "start": 8.8, "end": 11.9, "text": " One day after Twitter added private pictures to direct messaging," }, { "start": 11.9, "end": 15.3, "text": " Instagram has announced its own messaging feature called Instagram Direct." }, { "start": 15.3, "end": 18.5, "text": " The new feature, which is available starting today for iOS and Android," }, { "start": 18.5, "end": 23.3, "text": " allows users to privately send text, video, and photo messaging to up to 15 friends." }, { "start": 23.3, "end": 26.3, "text": " And just like Twitter, only the people you follow can send you photos and video," }, { "start": 26.3, "end": 29.2, "text": " so there goes any chance of a Justin Timberlake bromance." }, { "start": 29.2, "end": 32.4, "text": " In the future, cars will talk to each other and nearly drive themselves." }, { "start": 32.4, "end": 34.1, "text": " That's at least what Ford is trying to prove." }, { "start": 34.1, "end": 38, "text": " The automaker today unveiled the Ford Fusion Hybrid Automated Research Vehicle," }, { "start": 38, "end": 42.9, "text": " which as the name suggests is a modified Fusion that's able to drive on its own by detecting the world around it." }, { "start": 42.9, "end": 46.099999999999994, "text": " Ford now joins a number of automakers with an interest in self-driving cars." }, { "start": 46.099999999999994, "end": 49.1, "text": " Ford says most of the automation will not be deployed until 2025," }, { "start": 49.1, "end": 52.2, "text": " but it will try to phase in things little by little before then." }, { "start": 52.2, "end": 54, "text": " You know, things like AI road rage." }, { "start": 54, "end": 58.1, "text": " Finally, Fast and Furious will return, and Paul Walker will get the send-off he deserves." }, { "start": 58.1, "end": 63.1, "text": " Sources familiar with the matter say that screenwriter Chris Morgan has begun revising the script for Fast and Furious 7" }, { "start": 63.1, "end": 67, "text": " to allow for Walker's character to exit the series using footage that has already been shot." }, { "start": 67, "end": 70.5, "text": " Walker had already shot about half the scenes prior to his sudden death last month." }, { "start": 70.5, "end": 74.7, "text": " Fast 7 was scheduled to hit theaters in July 2014, but this timetable has now been scrapped." }, { "start": 74.7, "end": 78.7, "text": " The hope is now that with a reworked script, the cast and crew can get back to filming in January," }, { "start": 78.7, "end": 80.2, "text": " but that's far from a guarantee." }, { "start": 80.2, "end": 84.9, "text": " That's it for today's top stories, but coming up tomorrow, we take a look at the Golden Globe's newest category," }, { "start": 84.9, "end": 89.9, "text": " Best News Show Under Two Minutes, that does pop culture references and makes really weird jokes and or does a musical." } ]

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[ { "start": 0, "end": 5.16, "text": " This is Chris Sigler with The Verge, and this is the Qualcomm Tock." }, { "start": 5.16, "end": 7.54, "text": " You know, Tock, as in Tick Tock." }, { "start": 7.54, "end": 9.16, "text": " This is a smartwatch we're looking at." }, { "start": 9.16, "end": 12.9, "text": " It's also the first consumer product that Qualcomm, a company better known for its smartphone" }, { "start": 12.9, "end": 14.72, "text": " chips, has made in a long time." }, { "start": 14.72, "end": 17.56, "text": " Actually, calling it a consumer product is a bit of a stretch." }, { "start": 17.56, "end": 22.6, "text": " At $350, it's price outstrips comparable devices like the Pebble by $200, and even" }, { "start": 22.6, "end": 24.72, "text": " the more functional Galaxy Gear by $50." }, { "start": 24.72, "end": 29.12, "text": " Instead, the Tock is more of a technology demonstrator for Mirasol, the unique display" }, { "start": 29.12, "end": 33.56, "text": " technology that 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"end": 144.56, "text": " Qualcomm includes perhaps the best-looking, best-feeling, easiest-to-use companion app" }, { "start": 144.56, "end": 148.66, "text": " for your smartphone of any smartwatch I've tried, where you download new firmware, select" }, { "start": 148.66, "end": 152.28, "text": " watch faces, choose which calendars you want to show, and so on." }, { "start": 152.28, "end": 154.12, "text": " There's no iOS app yet, though." }, { "start": 154.12, "end": 157.6, "text": " It's Android-only at the moment, so that'll be an instant deal-breaker for a good percentage" }, { "start": 157.6, "end": 158.6, "text": " of the population." }, { "start": 158.6, "end": 163.14, "text": " Ultimately, the Tock isn't a smartwatch I'd recommend someone buy, but it is a device" }, { "start": 163.14, "end": 166.12, "text": " that makes me rave about what I want a smartwatch to really be." }, { "start": 166.12, "end": 170.07999999999998, "text": " I can tell you I know I wanted to have one of 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coming to you from a secret, I don't know if I'd call it like a bomb shelter" }, { "start": 67.56, "end": 73.96000000000001, "text": " or what, but let's just say that this is a room inside of our office that is not known." }, { "start": 73.96000000000001, "end": 78.08, "text": " I mean, if you tell them it's a secret room, it's really no longer a secret." }, { "start": 78.08, "end": 79.56, "text": " No, but they still don't know where it is." }, { "start": 79.56, "end": 82.52, "text": " Like if you walked into our office, you would not be able to find this room." }, { "start": 82.52, "end": 83.52, "text": " Let's just put it that way." }, { "start": 83.52, "end": 84.52, "text": " This is true." }, { "start": 84.52, "end": 85.52, "text": " And I don't know that we're going to get out." }, { "start": 85.52, "end": 86.52, "text": " It's true." }, { "start": 86.52, "end": 87.96000000000001, "text": " We're going to die in here." }, { "start": 87.96000000000001, "end": 91.76, "text": " Another thing that's strange about this room is that there are literally Xbox Ones and" }, { "start": 91.76, "end": 92.76, "text": " PS4s piled." }, { "start": 92.76, "end": 96.92, "text": " They're just like scattered side to side." }, { "start": 96.92, "end": 102, "text": " Apparently Polygon used this room quite extensively for their reviews and testing." }, { "start": 102, "end": 103, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 103, "end": 109.16, "text": " And after what we've done to it, they are never going to be able to use it." }, { "start": 109.16, "end": 114.56, "text": " So, actually, we've got news, big mobile news just today, just a couple hours before" }, { "start": 114.56, "end": 116, "text": " the mobile show started." }, { "start": 116, "end": 119.6, "text": " We've got new Google Play edition devices." }, { "start": 119.6, "end": 121.2, "text": " We've got a white Nexus 7." }, { "start": 121.2, "end": 126.36, "text": " We've got a white Google Play edition LG tablet." }, { "start": 126.36, "end": 127.36, "text": " What's it called?" }, { "start": 127.36, "end": 128.35999999999999, "text": " The G Pad." }, { "start": 128.35999999999999, "end": 129.35999999999999, "text": " G Pad." }, { "start": 129.35999999999999, "end": 130.35999999999999, "text": " G Pad 8.3." }, { "start": 130.35999999999999, "end": 135.6, "text": " And the G Pad, it's just like kind of a big ugly Nexus." }, { "start": 135.6, "end": 136.6, "text": " I don't know what it is." }, { "start": 136.6, "end": 137.6, "text": " No." }, { "start": 137.6, "end": 142.12, "text": " I actually have the non-Google edition G Pad back at my desk." }, { "start": 142.12, "end": 146.48, "text": " It's sleek, it's metal, it's kind of like, it's not as nice of a build quality as you" }, { "start": 146.48, "end": 149.44, "text": " get an iPad Mini, but it's a lot nicer than a Nexus 7." }, { "start": 149.44, "end": 151.64, "text": " It kind of sits in between." }, { "start": 151.64, "end": 157.07999999999998, "text": " And it's got an 8.3 inch screen, so it's a little bit bigger than the Nexus 7." }, { "start": 157.07999999999998, "end": 159.16, "text": " It's fairly lightweight, I guess." }, { "start": 159.16, "end": 163.72, "text": " But the biggest problem with the G Pad was the fact that it ran LG's god awful software." }, { "start": 163.72, "end": 167.52, "text": " So the fact that they are coming out with a Google edition is kind of exciting if you" }, { "start": 167.52, "end": 168.52, "text": " ask me." }, { "start": 168.52, "end": 169.52, "text": " And the price isn't bad." }, { "start": 169.52, "end": 170.52, "text": " I think it's $350." }, { "start": 170.52, "end": 172.76, "text": " I wish there was an option for LTE though." }, { "start": 172.76, "end": 176, "text": " They had an LTE model for like $50 more." }, { "start": 176, "end": 178.96, "text": " I'd be like way excited about that." }, { "start": 178.96, "end": 181.8, "text": " So the question is why would you buy this 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211.95999999999998, "end": 212.95999999999998, "text": " If you have seen my…" }, { "start": 212.95999999999998, "end": 213.95999999999998, "text": " It's the Verge Mobile Show." }, { "start": 213.95999999999998, "end": 214.95999999999998, "text": " Listen, Vlad." }, { "start": 214.95999999999998, "end": 221.92, "text": " There's going to be a whole lot more complaining coming over the next hour or whatever." }, { "start": 221.92, "end": 226.6, "text": " I spent a half an hour mock complaining about VSCO Cam." }, { "start": 226.6, "end": 227.6, "text": " That's true." }, { "start": 227.6, "end": 229.32, "text": " We enjoyed doing it." }, { "start": 229.32, "end": 230.32, "text": " That's true." }, { "start": 230.32, "end": 235.04, "text": " I just feel like I'm just looking at my calendar now and it is actually December." }, { "start": 235.04, "end": 240.95999999999998, "text": " I went into my local mall recently, which is a terrifying experience for me." }, { "start": 240.95999999999998, "end": 244.92, "text": " And I saw the Christmas-y stuff and I was like, oh god, they've brought out early" }, { "start": 244.92, "end": 245.92, "text": " again." }, { "start": 245.92, "end": 246.92, "text": " And then I realized, well actually it's December." }, { "start": 246.92, "end": 247.92, "text": " I should stop complaining." }, { "start": 247.92, "end": 252.72, "text": " It's kind of acceptable by this point for them to bring out Christmas trees and stuff." }, { "start": 252.72, "end": 258.44, "text": " But to the point about US people complaining about any of these Google Play Edition devices," }, { "start": 258.44, "end": 259.44, "text": " just don't stop." }, { "start": 259.44, "end": 266.24, "text": " Because if you look at my Twitter feed, it is so depressing because everybody is like" }, { "start": 266.24, "end": 268.2, "text": " not available in your country." }, { "start": 268.2, "end": 270.56, "text": " This Google Play Edition device is not available in your country." }, { "start": 270.56, "end": 275.71999999999997, "text": " So all of us European folks, UK folks, maybe it will get to us eventually, but the Google" }, { "start": 275.71999999999997, "end": 277.88, "text": " Play Edition Geopatics 1.3, nope." }, { "start": 277.88, "end": 283.52, "text": " So any of the Google Play Editions available in the UK?" }, { "start": 283.52, "end": 287.52, "text": " Previous ones I believe so, but the brand new announcements, I went and checked and" }, { "start": 287.52, "end": 293.12, "text": " it's just not available in your country, which just annoys a lot of people because these" }, { "start": 293.12, "end": 296.5, "text": " are global brands, global news, global announcements." }, { "start": 296.5, "end": 297.5, "text": " Everybody gets psyched up." }, { "start": 297.5, "end": 303.08, "text": " Everybody is like, hey it's Christmas, I'll go and buy myself something or whatever." }, { "start": 303.08, "end": 308.44, "text": " It's a new year for the atheists out there who want to celebrate some sort of novelty" }, { "start": 308.44, "end": 311.44, "text": " or excuse to buy themselves a new thing." }, { "start": 311.44, "end": 313.52, "text": " Yeah, the festivus." }, { "start": 313.52, "end": 316.12, "text": " And then it's just not available." }, { "start": 316.12, "end": 319.36, "text": " I was talking to Dieter about this this morning." }, { "start": 319.36, "end": 325.24, "text": " There's this huge and really frustrating and annoying arbitrage opportunity for Nexus 5s." }, { "start": 325.24, "end": 332.2, "text": " And I think this was true for Nexus 4s before, where you buy them for $3.50 on the Google" }, { "start": 332.2, "end": 336.36, "text": " Play store in the US and then you sell them for $500 anywhere else." }, { "start": 336.36, "end": 339.03999999999996, "text": " And it's just like a free $150." }, { "start": 339.03999999999996, "end": 345.92, "text": " And I'm assuming that a large percentage of that gap comes from moving the devices to" }, { "start": 345.92, "end": 348.96, "text": " other markets like the UK." }, { "start": 348.96, "end": 354.28, "text": " I mean there are international tax and customs duties that people are supposed to pay for." }, { "start": 354.28, "end": 359.03999999999996, "text": " Not the way I do it, Wayne." }, { "start": 359.04, "end": 367.44, "text": " So there's also a second Google Play edition device, the Xperia Z Ultra." }, { "start": 367.44, "end": 370.64000000000004, "text": " Which is, if you don't recall, it's got a 6.4 inch screen." }, { "start": 370.64000000000004, "end": 371.64000000000004, "text": " Not big enough for me." }, { "start": 371.64000000000004, "end": 374.20000000000005, "text": " I like a bigger phone." }, { "start": 374.20000000000005, "end": 380.48, "text": " Honestly I don't know what a Google Play edition of the Z Ultra brings to the table." }, { "start": 380.48, "end": 384.28000000000003, "text": " That doesn't have Sony skin, plus you get the worst camera interface ever." }, { "start": 384.28000000000003, "end": 386.88, "text": " I'm trying to wage Evan." }, { "start": 386.88, "end": 391.52, "text": " So Evan Rogers, our producer, is the biggest Sony phone fanboy on the planet." }, { "start": 391.52, "end": 394.88, "text": " And I'm trying to gauge his attraction to the Z1 Ultra GP." }, { "start": 394.88, "end": 396.76, "text": " I think Evan is on my side here." }, { "start": 396.76, "end": 402.64, "text": " Because you know, these crossover phablet devices, the one thing that redeems them is" }, { "start": 402.64, "end": 405.52, "text": " that they have software customized for their size." }, { "start": 405.52, "end": 409.52, "text": " At least, especially in the case of the Note 3, there's software that takes advantage" }, { "start": 409.52, "end": 412.86, "text": " of the bigger screen, it's got the stylus input, etc." }, { "start": 412.86, "end": 416.38, "text": " And when you strip all of that away and have a Google Play edition, you just have stock" }, { "start": 416.38, "end": 417.88, "text": " Android on a bigger screen." }, { "start": 417.88, "end": 421.04, "text": " And it doesn't run tablet apps, it still runs phone apps." }, { "start": 421.04, "end": 423.28, "text": " So it's just big, ganky phone apps." }, { "start": 423.28, "end": 426.71999999999997, "text": " It's not like having a Nexus 7 or a G Pad or whatever." }, { "start": 426.71999999999997, "end": 429.68, "text": " So I just don't exactly know what this brings to the table." }, { "start": 429.68, "end": 435.92, "text": " What it brings to the table is, you know, if you don't want an S4 and you don't want" }, { "start": 435.92, "end": 440.76, "text": " the camera on the HTC One and you don't want the camera on the Nexus 5, which we're going" }, { "start": 440.76, "end": 448.28, "text": " to talk about at length, you can get Google Play pure Android experience with a really" }, { "start": 448.28, "end": 449.28, "text": " good camera." }, { "start": 449.28, "end": 450.28, "text": " No, the camera on the Ultra is terrible." }, { "start": 450.28, "end": 451.28, "text": " Really?" }, { "start": 451.28, "end": 453.76, "text": " Yeah, it is a crappy 8 megapixel one." }, { "start": 453.76, "end": 456.48, "text": " It's not like the Z1 which is the..." }, { "start": 456.48, "end": 463.56, "text": " What it brings to the table then is clearing out stock from Sony's warehouses, I guess." }, { "start": 463.56, "end": 470, "text": " And you can actually draw with a real pencil on the Z Ultra." }, { "start": 470, "end": 474.64, "text": " It's not available in the UK, Vlad, it's a Z Ultra." }, { "start": 474.64, "end": 476.8, "text": " Wait a second, wait, rewind." }, { "start": 476.8, "end": 481.12, "text": " You can draw on it with a real graphite pencil?" }, { "start": 481.12, "end": 482.12, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 482.12, "end": 483.12, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 483.12, "end": 484.12, "text": " What does that mean?" }, { "start": 484.12, "end": 486.88, "text": " Why would you do that?" }, { "start": 486.88, "end": 489.04, "text": " Well I mean it's what you have in your pocket." }, { "start": 489.04, "end": 491, "text": " Boom, instant stylus." }, { "start": 491, "end": 492.76, "text": " But won't you just end up..." }, { "start": 492.76, "end": 493.76, "text": " I'm confused." }, { "start": 493.76, "end": 497.44, "text": " Won't you draw physically on the device if you do that?" }, { "start": 497.44, "end": 498.44, "text": " Probably." }, { "start": 498.44, "end": 504.76, "text": " Vlad is so bitter that these aren't coming to the UK." }, { "start": 504.76, "end": 507.71999999999997, "text": " And everything is a one word answer." }, { "start": 507.71999999999997, "end": 511.72, "text": " The point is you can do it, man." }, { "start": 511.72, "end": 513.24, "text": " The device will register it." }, { "start": 513.24, "end": 516.12, "text": " That was one of the things that Sony did." }, { "start": 516.12, "end": 519.28, "text": " They didn't give you a good stylus, they didn't give you a stylus silo or anything like that" }, { "start": 519.28, "end": 525.08, "text": " in the device, but they made it really compatible with anything you want to poke at it." }, { "start": 525.08, "end": 528.96, "text": " I bet if you apply fire to the Z1 Ultra it'll get hot." }, { "start": 528.96, "end": 531.4000000000001, "text": " Wow, deep insights." }, { "start": 531.4000000000001, "end": 540.44, "text": " The more you know from Chris' Z-Power segments." }, { "start": 540.44, "end": 542.5600000000001, "text": " So there's this white Nexus 7 too." }, { "start": 542.5600000000001, "end": 543.5600000000001, "text": " Yes, which is awesome." }, { "start": 543.5600000000001, "end": 544.5600000000001, "text": " Who cares?" }, { "start": 544.5600000000001, "end": 545.5600000000001, "text": " I mean I don't care." }, { "start": 545.5600000000001, "end": 548.36, "text": " No, because look at the white Nexus 5 is a POS." }, { "start": 548.36, "end": 549.36, "text": " Exactly." }, { "start": 549.36, "end": 551.36, "text": " The plastic on the regular Nexus 7 is fine." }, { "start": 551.36, "end": 555.5600000000001, "text": " No one has given me a thorough and proper explanation for why the white Nexus 5 is a" }, { "start": 555.5600000000001, "end": 556.5600000000001, "text": " POS." }, { "start": 556.5600000000001, "end": 557.5600000000001, "text": " If I had a white Nexus 5 here." }, { "start": 557.5600000000001, "end": 558.5600000000001, "text": " Hold it." }, { "start": 558.5600000000001, "end": 559.5600000000001, "text": " I've been using it for a day." }, { "start": 559.5600000000001, "end": 562, "text": " Bring it up here." }, { "start": 562, "end": 564.36, "text": " It's not a POS until you compare it to the black one." }, { "start": 564.36, "end": 566.8000000000001, "text": " That's when it's like, oh wait, the black is so much better." }, { "start": 566.8000000000001, "end": 570.32, "text": " This plastic, it's just glossy." }, { "start": 570.32, "end": 571.8000000000001, "text": " It's very badly textured." }, { "start": 571.8000000000001, "end": 573.36, "text": " It looks great." }, { "start": 573.36, "end": 576.6800000000001, "text": " The rails on the sides are glossy and flat." }, { "start": 576.6800000000001, "end": 578.96, "text": " It looks exactly like the One X." }, { "start": 578.96, "end": 580.8000000000001, "text": " The white One X, which was great." }, { "start": 580.8, "end": 582.88, "text": " The black got dirty." }, { "start": 582.88, "end": 585.1999999999999, "text": " The black is the awesome." }, { "start": 585.1999999999999, "end": 586.1999999999999, "text": " That's what I was going to say with the white Nexus 7." }, { "start": 586.1999999999999, "end": 588.64, "text": " Plus it has the zit for the speaker." }, { "start": 588.64, "end": 591.8399999999999, "text": " Yes, the zit." }, { "start": 591.8399999999999, "end": 592.9599999999999, "text": " I am going to get you." }, { "start": 592.9599999999999, "end": 595.4, "text": " Your phone has acne is what I'm saying." }, { "start": 595.4, "end": 598.64, "text": " For Christmas I'm getting you both white Nexus 7s and white Nexus 5s." }, { "start": 598.64, "end": 599.64, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 599.64, "end": 600.64, "text": " It could do worse." }, { "start": 600.64, "end": 603.1999999999999, "text": " It is not a zit." }, { "start": 603.1999999999999, "end": 608.0799999999999, "text": " That actually, the little earpiece, speakerphone thing happening to white Nexus 5 is really" }, { "start": 608.08, "end": 612.48, "text": " quite handy because it's quite a symmetrical device." }, { "start": 612.48, "end": 616.24, "text": " The so-called zit actually tells you where the top is." }, { "start": 616.24, "end": 617.24, "text": " I actually like that." }, { "start": 617.24, "end": 619.36, "text": " I'm flipping my phone around." }, { "start": 619.36, "end": 621.8000000000001, "text": " It makes me feel like a ninja." }, { "start": 621.8000000000001, "end": 622.8000000000001, "text": " I would do that." }, { "start": 622.8000000000001, "end": 623.8000000000001, "text": " The black one looks so much better." }, { "start": 623.8000000000001, "end": 624.8000000000001, "text": " You could still do that." }, { "start": 624.8000000000001, "end": 629.5600000000001, "text": " I mean, I've been using the white and I've been happy with it." }, { "start": 629.5600000000001, "end": 633.88, "text": " Obviously a bad idea for me would be to go and check out the black one and then feel" }, { "start": 633.88, "end": 634.88, "text": " like I'm losing out." }, { "start": 634.88, "end": 638.6, "text": " I don't think many people are missing out." }, { "start": 638.6, "end": 643.4, "text": " That my friends is an awesome transition to the Nexus 5 camera which we absolutely need" }, { "start": 643.4, "end": 650.08, "text": " to talk about because I just managed to sideload the update today, 204.4.1." }, { "start": 650.08, "end": 657.48, "text": " It's 441 and then 442 followed hard upon." }, { "start": 657.48, "end": 658.48, "text": " Now it's 442." }, { "start": 658.48, "end": 661.56, "text": " I've actually got the update waiting on my Nexus 5." }, { "start": 661.56, "end": 668.1999999999999, "text": " I got to say the fact that we're on 442 on Android means that until they bring us 443," }, { "start": 668.1999999999999, "end": 672.4, "text": " I'm going to have Jerry was a race car driver in my head nonstop." }, { "start": 672.4, "end": 677.4, "text": " It's a fine automobile." }, { "start": 677.4, "end": 678.4, "text": " Because the line is…" }, { "start": 678.4, "end": 683.64, "text": " Well, you know, if it's anything like between 441 to 442, you'll enjoy it for like four" }, { "start": 683.64, "end": 686.52, "text": " days and then 443 will be up." }, { "start": 686.52, "end": 690.4, "text": " And there is no car called a 443." }, { "start": 690.4, "end": 694.8, "text": " I have no opinion on the Nexus 5 camera." }, { "start": 694.8, "end": 695.8, "text": " Really?" }, { "start": 695.8, "end": 696.8, "text": " I think it's great." }, { "start": 696.8, "end": 698.48, "text": " Okay, I think the update is great." }, { "start": 698.48, "end": 700.4399999999999, "text": " I think that it's still…" }, { "start": 700.4399999999999, "end": 705.72, "text": " I think a lot of people are debating between a Moto X and a Nexus 5." }, { "start": 705.72, "end": 708.92, "text": " I think that we're still…" }, { "start": 708.92, "end": 709.92, "text": " Easy." }, { "start": 709.92, "end": 715.12, "text": " That we're still in a world where we do not have a Nexus with a great camera." }, { "start": 715.12, "end": 716.12, "text": " It's better." }, { "start": 716.12, "end": 720.12, "text": " They fixed the shutter lag problem which was the biggest 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screen and the overall like feel of the device to the Moto X enough" }, { "start": 759.96, "end": 763.4399999999999, "text": " that I am with our updated review." }, { "start": 763.4399999999999, "end": 765.04, "text": " Go check out that I…" }, { "start": 765.04, "end": 767.96, "text": " This is the Android phone that I recommend to people who are looking for Android phones." }, { "start": 767.96, "end": 769.52, "text": " You cannot beat the feel of the Moto X." }, { "start": 769.52, "end": 770.52, "text": " Yeah, I'm going to have…" }, { "start": 770.52, "end": 771.52, "text": " I'm doing it right to the point here." }, { "start": 771.52, "end": 772.52, "text": " I disagree." }, { "start": 772.52, "end": 775.36, "text": " I think the Moto X has a better feel in the hand." }, { "start": 775.36, "end": 778.96, "text": " I think the software that Motorola has actually put on top of Android is genuinely useful." }, { "start": 778.96, "end": 779.96, "text": " Yeah, no, you're right." }, { "start": 779.96, "end": 784.72, "text": " And I think for the vast majority of the consumers who do not buy $350 unlocked phones from a" }, { "start": 784.72, "end": 790.32, "text": " website powered by Google, that they walk into a carrier store and they buy the phone" }, { "start": 790.32, "end": 792.84, "text": " on contract when it's time for their upgrade, I think the Moto X is a better choice." }, { "start": 792.84, "end": 794.32, "text": " And you can get whatever color you want." }, { "start": 794.32, "end": 795.32, "text": " Dan's got it." }, { "start": 795.32, "end": 799.36, "text": " The more time I spent with the Moto X, the cheaper it feels to me." }, { "start": 799.36, "end": 800.36, "text": " That's because…" }, { "start": 800.36, "end": 802.6, "text": " It just feels kind of plasticky." }, { "start": 802.6, "end": 807.52, "text": " You are a trite man." }, { "start": 807.52, "end": 810.96, "text": " Hang on, back up." }, { "start": 810.96, "end": 814.1999999999999, "text": " How much did your shoes cost?" }, { "start": 814.1999999999999, "end": 815.1999999999999, "text": " These were dirt cheap." }, { "start": 815.1999999999999, "end": 816.1999999999999, "text": " These were like $40." }, { "start": 816.1999999999999, "end": 817.6, "text": " Oh, okay." }, { "start": 817.6, "end": 822.6, "text": " But Chris did have some gold shoes in his shopping cart there." }, { "start": 822.6, "end": 823.6, "text": " I did." }, { "start": 823.6, "end": 826.48, "text": " I almost bought gold Cole Hans." }, { "start": 826.48, "end": 831.8199999999999, "text": " But I just want to say about the Nexus 5 camera, I fully agree that it's overall greatly" }, { "start": 831.8199999999999, "end": 833.74, "text": " improved from when it launched." }, { "start": 833.74, "end": 836.72, "text": " It launches faster which is huge." }, { "start": 836.72, "end": 840.88, "text": " But I found a lot of times it would just miss focus and then go ahead and take a picture" }, { "start": 840.88, "end": 845.6, "text": " with, even after the update, in good lighting I would be trying to take a picture of something" }, { "start": 845.6, "end": 849.64, "text": " that's sitting still and it would like focus, focus, focus, miss focus, take the picture" }, { "start": 849.64, "end": 851.32, "text": " and it's just a blurry mess." }, { "start": 851.32, "end": 856.0400000000001, "text": " And like I've never had another smartphone camera do that as often and like just make" }, { "start": 856.0400000000001, "end": 859.0400000000001, "text": " me be like I don't know if this is going to be in focus or not, better take 15 shots." }, { "start": 859.0400000000001, "end": 862.44, "text": " Isn't it funny that both the Moto X and the Nexus 5, which are the consensus best" }, { "start": 862.44, "end": 867.96, "text": " Android phones on the market right now, have required like urgent camera updates?" }, { "start": 867.96, "end": 871.5200000000001, "text": " I think it's, I mean I don't know if this is the same with the, I don't think I could" }, { "start": 871.5200000000001, "end": 874.48, "text": " say this for the Motorola but it feels like with the Nexus 5 that it's just like an" }, { "start": 874.48, "end": 877.48, "text": " example of a beta product that Google pushed to market." }, { "start": 877.48, "end": 882.12, "text": " And they're like we know this isn't great, we know this is broken and I mean if any of" }, { "start": 882.12, "end": 886.8000000000001, "text": " them tested the Nexus 5 as it launched, they would realize how bad the camera experience" }, { "start": 886.8000000000001, "end": 891.1600000000001, "text": " was and they were hinging so much on this is great for taking photos, this is great" }, { "start": 891.1600000000001, "end": 892.1600000000001, "text": " for capturing images." }, { "start": 892.16, "end": 894.7199999999999, "text": " It was like a really big pitch of the Nexus 5." }, { "start": 894.7199999999999, "end": 897.68, "text": " And then the Nexus 5 takes really bad photos and then they hurry out a software update" }, { "start": 897.68, "end": 899.9599999999999, "text": " that corrects at least 50% of them." }, { "start": 899.9599999999999, "end": 904.1999999999999, "text": " It's like well why didn't they wait two weeks and launch it with the better software?" }, { "start": 904.1999999999999, "end": 906.28, "text": " Dan, I have to disagree with you." }, { "start": 906.28, "end": 910.68, "text": " They did test this because if you recall the very first leaked pictures of the Nexus 5" }, { "start": 910.68, "end": 917.1999999999999, "text": " were on the Google campus of people holding the phone up on a big basis taking pictures" }, { "start": 917.1999999999999, "end": 918.1999999999999, "text": " of the Google statutes." }, { "start": 918.2, "end": 924.6, "text": " But like the fact that they tested it, I mean unless they're just incompetent testers," }, { "start": 924.6, "end": 929.0400000000001, "text": " these issues would have come up pretty quickly when testing and they still pushed it to market." }, { "start": 929.0400000000001, "end": 930.6400000000001, "text": " Right, but I also feel like…" }, { "start": 930.6400000000001, "end": 933.6800000000001, "text": " And then you're just like you buy it and then you're waiting for them to fix it." }, { "start": 933.6800000000001, "end": 939.8000000000001, "text": " I also feel like these particular camera decisions fluctuate a lot and ultimately somebody makes" }, { "start": 939.8000000000001, "end": 943.9200000000001, "text": " them very near the release and that's what doesn't get tested." }, { "start": 943.92, "end": 949.56, "text": " So they might have been testing the camera preset to a different standard, to a different" }, { "start": 949.56, "end": 954.92, "text": " shutter speed, whatever, whatever and then just changed it right near the end." }, { "start": 954.92, "end": 955.92, "text": " That's exactly what happened." }, { "start": 955.92, "end": 960.28, "text": " None of them are like no camera engineers at Google or they didn't talk to any camera" }, { "start": 960.28, "end": 963.76, "text": " engineers that would have been like you know what do people take pictures of with their" }, { "start": 963.76, "end": 964.76, "text": " smartphones?" }, { "start": 964.76, "end": 967.28, "text": " That's a big assumption that there are camera engineers at Google." }, { "start": 967.28, "end": 969.8399999999999, "text": " So maybe there are but they take pictures of their pets and they take pictures of their" }, { "start": 969.8399999999999, "end": 971.68, "text": " kids and they're always running around indoors." }, { "start": 971.68, "end": 974.76, "text": " You can't lock the shutter speed at 1.15th of a second." }, { "start": 974.76, "end": 978.04, "text": " Any camera engineer is going to be like that's going to result in a blurry picture every" }, { "start": 978.04, "end": 979.04, "text": " single time." }, { "start": 979.04, "end": 980.04, "text": " So this…" }, { "start": 980.04, "end": 987.04, "text": " I want to get to what Chris mentioned that the Moto X and the Nexus 5 both had like dire" }, { "start": 987.04, "end": 989.5999999999999, "text": " camera updates that had to be issued right away." }, { "start": 989.5999999999999, "end": 993.2399999999999, "text": " I went on this rant a month ago that like everybody who works on Android phones needs" }, { "start": 993.2399999999999, "end": 997.4799999999999, "text": " to stop everything and focus on nothing but the camera for a year." }, { "start": 997.48, "end": 1002.24, "text": " Like yes, still apply." }, { "start": 1002.24, "end": 1011.2, "text": " Why is nobody except for Samsung making a good truly great camera on an Android phone?" }, { "start": 1011.2, "end": 1013.04, "text": " You know what's better than everything we've talked about?" }, { "start": 1013.04, "end": 1014.04, "text": " The iPhone 5S." }, { "start": 1014.04, "end": 1015.04, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 1015.04, "end": 1019.28, "text": " None of this angst applies to the iPhone 5S or the iPhone 5." }, { "start": 1019.28, "end": 1025.28, "text": " I will say that Sony finally did with the Z1 but it's had very limited availability." }, { "start": 1025.28, "end": 1030.6, "text": " It's kind of expensive and obscure and it's a Sony which doesn't have like widespread" }, { "start": 1030.6, "end": 1031.6, "text": " adoption." }, { "start": 1031.6, "end": 1032.6, "text": " Well in the US anyway." }, { "start": 1032.6, "end": 1033.6, "text": " Yeah in the US." }, { "start": 1033.6, "end": 1039.2, "text": " Right, the issue with the Z1 is also that Sony overcooks the processing." }, { "start": 1039.2, "end": 1042.48, "text": " So they have a very good sensor but then they also overdo it." }, { "start": 1042.48, "end": 1047.3999999999999, "text": " So their decisions aren't universally to the good." }, { "start": 1047.3999999999999, "end": 1054.12, "text": " But actually to bring it back to the Nexus 5, I mean I feel the same way with Nokia had" }, { "start": 1054.12, "end": 1058.7199999999998, "text": " that similar issue when it launched the Lumia 920 I believe." }, { "start": 1058.7199999999998, "end": 1062.76, "text": " Which was the first peer-reviewed branded device after the 808 if I'm not mistaken." }, { "start": 1062.76, "end": 1065.4799999999998, "text": " And it had amazing performance in low light." }, { "start": 1065.4799999999998, "end": 1070.56, "text": " But also Nokia went a bit too aggressive and slowed down the shutter speed because it had" }, { "start": 1070.56, "end": 1076.52, "text": " optical image stabilization and it was like we'll open up the shutter for longer, we'll" }, { "start": 1076.52, "end": 1082.56, "text": " take longer exposures, we'll get more light into the pictures, we'll blow everybody's" }, { "start": 1082.56, "end": 1083.56, "text": " minds." }, { "start": 1083.56, "end": 1088.6399999999999, "text": " What happened is that you couldn't get steady focus because it was opening up for too long." }, { "start": 1088.6399999999999, "end": 1090.76, "text": " And that's how I feel with the Nexus 5." }, { "start": 1090.76, "end": 1096.3799999999999, "text": " I mess around with it today and what I'm seeing is a heck of a lot of noise." }, { "start": 1096.3799999999999, "end": 1099.3999999999999, "text": " Much more so than before the update." }, { "start": 1099.3999999999999, "end": 1102.46, "text": " So it seems like Google has cranked up the ISO a bit." }, { "start": 1102.46, "end": 1107.76, "text": " But I'm also seeing a ton of the out of focus photos whether it be because of motion or" }, { "start": 1107.76, "end": 1113.52, "text": " because of the camera fading to focus just being fixed and actually focusing okay." }, { "start": 1113.52, "end": 1119.28, "text": " Like Dan says, I don't think it's been fixed altogether but what used to be a disaster" }, { "start": 1119.28, "end": 1121.8799999999999, "text": " doesn't stink anymore." }, { "start": 1121.8799999999999, "end": 1129.52, "text": " So I wonder if testing camera and doing last minute tweaks, the people that you need to" }, { "start": 1129.52, "end": 1135.16, "text": " actually test and use the camera and verify that it is good and what you should be releasing" }, { "start": 1135.16, "end": 1141.32, "text": " to a mass consumer market are the people that know the least about how to describe what's" }, { "start": 1141.32, "end": 1142.76, "text": " wrong with the camera." }, { "start": 1142.76, "end": 1148.84, "text": " The people that actually know how to use a camera are the people that like maybe are" }, { "start": 1148.84, "end": 1154.24, "text": " unconsciously adjusting for the camera's limitations and so they're like oh yeah, this is what" }, { "start": 1154.24, "end": 1155.96, "text": " this camera is and I know how to take pictures." }, { "start": 1155.96, "end": 1159.44, "text": " They can send it to me and I'll tell them." }, { "start": 1159.44, "end": 1162.52, "text": " I'll try to take a picture of my toddler and she runs around the room and it fails and" }, { "start": 1162.52, "end": 1167.48, "text": " I'll be like this doesn't work." }, { "start": 1167.48, "end": 1170.06, "text": " Smartphones are the most popular cameras in the world." }, { "start": 1170.06, "end": 1174.1599999999999, "text": " People take more pictures with smartphones than any other device ever and you know, they" }, { "start": 1174.1599999999999, "end": 1179.6, "text": " take pictures of family and pets and things that move around and it's like in bad lighting" }, { "start": 1179.6, "end": 1185.04, "text": " or you know, selfies in a bar and it's like these are not easy situations for any camera" }, { "start": 1185.04, "end": 1190.28, "text": " company to take good pictures and even the best cameras can have trouble but a lot of" }, { "start": 1190.28, "end": 1193, "text": " it has to do with how they approach it and what they prioritize." }, { "start": 1193, "end": 1195.6, "text": " I'm installing 442 right now." }, { "start": 1195.6, "end": 1202.02, "text": " You know, the other thing is when I've been comparing the iPhone cameras, what Apple does" }, { "start": 1202.02, "end": 1204.36, "text": " is what Google has just done with its update." }, { "start": 1204.36, "end": 1210.52, "text": " So what Apple tends to prefer to do is pick up a lot of noise but have the shutter speed" }, { "start": 1210.52, "end": 1215.08, "text": " right so you're not out of focus because honestly, if you're out of focus with a photo, it doesn't" }, { "start": 1215.08, "end": 1216.36, "text": " matter if it's noise free." }, { "start": 1216.36, "end": 1218.4399999999998, "text": " It doesn't matter if it has a lot of light in it." }, { "start": 1218.4399999999998, "end": 1220.24, "text": " It's not a good photo." }, { "start": 1220.24, "end": 1224.7199999999998, "text": " So what happens with the iPhone when things get bad, you get a lot of noise in the picture" }, { "start": 1224.72, "end": 1228.7, "text": " but that's kind of okay because nobody is really using the megapixels and they look" }, { "start": 1228.7, "end": 1233.84, "text": " decent when they shrunk down in the Instagram to like garbage resolution." }, { "start": 1233.84, "end": 1239.24, "text": " I think that's kind of the direction that Google has gone with the Nexus but also, I" }, { "start": 1239.24, "end": 1245.16, "text": " think these guys know exactly how we use smartphone cameras which to Dieter's point really gives" }, { "start": 1245.16, "end": 1248.3, "text": " them no excuse for why they're not fixing it." }, { "start": 1248.3, "end": 1254.02, "text": " There was this advertising campaign with Ed Norton for Verizon where he's having this" }, { "start": 1254.02, "end": 1261.52, "text": " misadventure for 48 hours and one of the sequences in it, he's at a doctor and there's a key" }, { "start": 1261.52, "end": 1265.32, "text": " in his stomach and he's like, I want to take a picture of it and he does this flipping" }, { "start": 1265.32, "end": 1266.32, "text": " the phone around." }, { "start": 1266.32, "end": 1267.32, "text": " It's droid max." }, { "start": 1267.32, "end": 1269.94, "text": " It's a massive phone but he does this flipping the phone around his hand like Dieter was" }, { "start": 1269.94, "end": 1270.94, "text": " just doing." }, { "start": 1270.94, "end": 1274.44, "text": " I'm not a skilled to demonstrate that but he just flips the phone around and he's like" }, { "start": 1274.44, "end": 1279.12, "text": " snap, took a really quick picture, boom and he's got a photo of the ultrasound of the" }, { "start": 1279.12, "end": 1280.12, "text": " key in his stomach." }, { "start": 1280.12, "end": 1281.76, "text": " It's like that's what people want." }, { "start": 1281.76, "end": 1284.8, "text": " They want to flip out the phone, take the photo, not worry about it." }, { "start": 1284.8, "end": 1287.64, "text": " I'd be like, was that quick enough?" }, { "start": 1287.64, "end": 1288.64, "text": " Did I focus?" }, { "start": 1288.64, "end": 1289.64, "text": " Did the camera focus?" }, { "start": 1289.64, "end": 1292.08, "text": " Do I want to take a redundant shot like Dan was saying?" }, { "start": 1292.08, "end": 1293.68, "text": " You just want to take one." }, { "start": 1293.68, "end": 1295.68, "text": " But rewind for a second." }, { "start": 1295.68, "end": 1300.66, "text": " We still need to acknowledge the fact that that gesture for taking a photo is stupid" }, { "start": 1300.66, "end": 1302.28, "text": " and Motorola should be ashamed of it." }, { "start": 1302.28, "end": 1303.28, "text": " No, it's great." }, { "start": 1303.28, "end": 1304.28, "text": " You dodged." }, { "start": 1304.28, "end": 1305.28, "text": " It's the worst." }, { "start": 1305.28, "end": 1309.84, "text": " I think once you nail it, you just turn the screw." }, { "start": 1309.84, "end": 1311.84, "text": " In that case, it was just him showing off." }, { "start": 1311.84, "end": 1317.36, "text": " He was like the guy flipping a coin on his knuckles or whatever." }, { "start": 1317.36, "end": 1321.1, "text": " Samsung years ago had one where you would like turn the screen on and then hold the" }, { "start": 1321.1, "end": 1326.1999999999998, "text": " camera up or hold the phone up and then rotate it horizontally and it would supposedly launch" }, { "start": 1326.1999999999998, "end": 1329.8799999999999, "text": " the camera and that was so much more ridiculous and cumbersome compared to just pulling it" }, { "start": 1329.8799999999999, "end": 1332.1599999999999, "text": " out of your pocket and going like this and taking a picture." }, { "start": 1332.1599999999999, "end": 1333.9199999999998, "text": " You could do it in the same move, boom." }, { "start": 1333.9199999999998, "end": 1338.48, "text": " How about just a button or better what the iPhone does which is just slide up from the" }, { "start": 1338.48, "end": 1339.48, "text": " bottom of the screen." }, { "start": 1339.48, "end": 1340.48, "text": " Slide up from the bottom?" }, { "start": 1340.48, "end": 1341.48, "text": " Yeah, that's all you do." }, { "start": 1341.48, "end": 1344.48, "text": " Doesn't that bring up command center?" }, { "start": 1344.48, "end": 1347, "text": " No, not if you do the lower right corner." }, { "start": 1347, "end": 1348, "text": " Oh, from the one corner." }, { "start": 1348, "end": 1351, "text": " You can do that on Android." }, { "start": 1351, "end": 1353.92, "text": " Which is why you don't need the gesture." }, { "start": 1353.92, "end": 1356.84, "text": " You can do it from any app with the Moto X." }, { "start": 1356.84, "end": 1358.2, "text": " It never works for me anyway." }, { "start": 1358.2, "end": 1361.08, "text": " I sit there going like this and nothing happens." }, { "start": 1361.08, "end": 1362.6, "text": " They're just trolling you." }, { "start": 1362.6, "end": 1366.24, "text": " It works for everybody but you." }, { "start": 1366.24, "end": 1367.88, "text": " I need you guys to send me a Moto X." }, { "start": 1367.88, "end": 1370.2, "text": " I've never had one for a long time." }, { "start": 1370.2, "end": 1373.1200000000001, "text": " You guys have the G over there." }, { "start": 1373.1200000000001, "end": 1374.1200000000001, "text": " Same thing." }, { "start": 1374.1200000000001, "end": 1375.1200000000001, "text": " It looks the same." }, { "start": 1375.1200000000001, "end": 1376.1200000000001, "text": " Shut up." }, { "start": 1376.1200000000001, "end": 1381.7600000000002, "text": " I got a funny story about my Moto X because I broke down and I bought one during that" }, { "start": 1381.7600000000002, "end": 1386.0800000000002, "text": " sale last week when Motorola finally got its sale right." }, { "start": 1386.0800000000002, "end": 1389.8200000000002, "text": " They were supposed to deliver it to me yesterday but because of this massive winter storm that's" }, { "start": 1389.8200000000002, "end": 1392.4, "text": " been sweeping across the country, it's delayed." }, { "start": 1392.4, "end": 1396.64, "text": " They said that it would be guaranteed by 8pm tonight at my door and it was in Memphis," }, { "start": 1396.64, "end": 1402.5600000000002, "text": " Tennessee at noon which is like an 18 hour drive from my door or a 5 hour flight in what" }, { "start": 1402.5600000000002, "end": 1403.5600000000002, "text": " is still a winter storm." }, { "start": 1403.5600000000002, "end": 1406.0400000000002, "text": " I don't know if I'm going to get it or not." }, { "start": 1406.0400000000002, "end": 1409.24, "text": " That's my really funny Moto X story." }, { "start": 1409.24, "end": 1413.92, "text": " Well if you don't and you no longer want it because it took too long, let me know and" }, { "start": 1413.92, "end": 1416.2, "text": " I'll buy it off you for 100 bucks." }, { "start": 1416.2, "end": 1422.3200000000002, "text": " That's a good deal." }, { "start": 1422.3200000000002, "end": 1425, "text": " People are just side-chaining me like madmen." }, { "start": 1425, "end": 1427.8, "text": " You held up a phone earlier and I think we should talk about it." }, { "start": 1427.8, "end": 1429.84, "text": " This is the LG Flex." }, { "start": 1429.84, "end": 1434.28, "text": " LG is not a phone unless it's got a G in its name." }, { "start": 1434.28, "end": 1435.28, "text": " LG G Flex." }, { "start": 1435.28, "end": 1440.08, "text": " I know I'm kind of far from the camera but I think you can see that." }, { "start": 1440.08, "end": 1441.08, "text": " Banana phone going on here." }, { "start": 1441.08, "end": 1442.08, "text": " I am jealous." }, { "start": 1442.08, "end": 1443.08, "text": " Don't be." }, { "start": 1443.08, "end": 1448.96, "text": " Listen Vlad, we'll send you one of these." }, { "start": 1448.96, "end": 1455.2, "text": " Can we make it self-heal live on the air?" }, { "start": 1455.2, "end": 1459.52, "text": " The G Flex is one of the first phones on the market with a curved display." }, { "start": 1459.52, "end": 1465.44, "text": " And it's got a 6 inch AMOLED display, 720p resolution but this one has a, we said banana" }, { "start": 1465.44, "end": 1467.56, "text": " phone earlier and that's really the easiest way to describe it." }, { "start": 1467.56, "end": 1469.32, "text": " It's got a curve lengthwise." }, { "start": 1469.32, "end": 1472.32, "text": " Somebody please explain this to me." }, { "start": 1472.32, "end": 1475.78, "text": " This is a Korean model and so it's got an antenna for Korean TV." }, { "start": 1475.78, "end": 1478.6000000000001, "text": " This would not be in the US version when it comes to this." }, { "start": 1478.6, "end": 1483.24, "text": " I like to think of this as being a cell antenna." }, { "start": 1483.24, "end": 1485.28, "text": " An aerial." }, { "start": 1485.28, "end": 1489.76, "text": " But yeah, so it's got a curved display and it actually is legitimately curved." }, { "start": 1489.76, "end": 1495.8, "text": " It looks like, to me it looks like the original Galaxy Nexus, just like more so." }, { "start": 1495.8, "end": 1499.76, "text": " The curve is more defined and the curve is bigger." }, { "start": 1499.76, "end": 1505.52, "text": " You can actually flex the device a couple of millimeters and it will bounce back but" }, { "start": 1505.52, "end": 1510.68, "text": " because of the other components in there you can break it, you can go too far." }, { "start": 1510.68, "end": 1516.86, "text": " And so you know the curved display is like, LG says that it minimizes reflections which" }, { "start": 1516.86, "end": 1524.2, "text": " actually does happen and it aids in when you're watching video and things like that because" }, { "start": 1524.2, "end": 1525.68, "text": " you have fewer reflections." }, { "start": 1525.68, "end": 1529.56, "text": " But otherwise it really feels like a gimmick at this point and it's not a great display." }, { "start": 1529.56, "end": 1533.92, "text": " It's really big and not as high resolution as others." }, { "start": 1533.92, "end": 1538.16, "text": " And then the other thing is this, the back of the phone, which Chris is desperately trying" }, { "start": 1538.16, "end": 1539.16, "text": " to break." }, { "start": 1539.16, "end": 1541.6000000000001, "text": " I just want to get the battery out." }, { "start": 1541.6000000000001, "end": 1548.76, "text": " Yeah, so the battery inside is curved to match the curve here which LG developed." }, { "start": 1548.76, "end": 1552.04, "text": " But the back of the phone has this finish on it that's supposed to be like a self-healing" }, { "start": 1552.04, "end": 1553.04, "text": " thing they call it." }, { "start": 1553.04, "end": 1555.8400000000001, "text": " So everyone's been calling it the Wolverine phone." }, { "start": 1555.8400000000001, "end": 1558.8000000000002, "text": " And it will recover from light scratches." }, { "start": 1558.8000000000002, "end": 1563.5, "text": " So if your keys bang into it, if you scratch it while putting it down on a rough surface," }, { "start": 1563.5, "end": 1565.6, "text": " it will heal pretty quickly." }, { "start": 1565.6, "end": 1571.04, "text": " But we tested it with a pocket knife I think and I think we put some permanent damage in" }, { "start": 1571.04, "end": 1572.04, "text": " it." }, { "start": 1572.04, "end": 1573.04, "text": " Nice." }, { "start": 1573.04, "end": 1576.36, "text": " Oh yeah, I can feel it." }, { "start": 1576.36, "end": 1579.52, "text": " And no amount of time has recovered the scratch on that one." }, { "start": 1579.52, "end": 1585.04, "text": " Actually to that point, that self-repairing thing might be helpful because on my LG G2" }, { "start": 1585.04, "end": 1589.56, "text": " I've managed to get a whole series of small scratches on the screen." }, { "start": 1589.56, "end": 1594.36, "text": " What's stupid is the camera lens is still exposed so that's got to be a hardened sapphire" }, { "start": 1594.36, "end": 1597.04, "text": " glass to prevent scratches." }, { "start": 1597.04, "end": 1598.04, "text": " I mean, I guess it's all for the best." }, { "start": 1598.04, "end": 1601.04, "text": " Yeah, but you only get that from Virtu, man." }, { "start": 1601.04, "end": 1602.04, "text": " Hardened sapphire glass." }, { "start": 1602.04, "end": 1603.04, "text": " You get that from Virtu, nobody else does it." }, { "start": 1603.04, "end": 1604.04, "text": " No, the iPhone is sapphire glass." }, { "start": 1604.04, "end": 1607.04, "text": " When are we going to get a curved Virtu?" }, { "start": 1607.04, "end": 1608.04, "text": " Yes, Vlad." }, { "start": 1608.04, "end": 1609.44, "text": " When is the curved Virtu coming?" }, { "start": 1609.44, "end": 1615.84, "text": " You know, it's a very good question because I was just looking at, I had to do a witty" }, { "start": 1615.84, "end": 1622.56, "text": " tweet about the downfall of Nokia and how it was predicted by the matrix when Neo drops" }, { "start": 1622.56, "end": 1625.08, "text": " is awesome Nokia banana phone." }, { "start": 1625.08, "end": 1631.9599999999998, "text": " And I understand the device that Nokia released alongside the banana phone that was in the" }, { "start": 1631.9599999999998, "end": 1634.1999999999998, "text": " movie was like the first series 40 device." }, { "start": 1634.1999999999998, "end": 1636.02, "text": " Am I accurate there, Chris?" }, { "start": 1636.02, "end": 1638.3999999999999, "text": " I think that's too old to be series 40." }, { "start": 1638.3999999999999, "end": 1643.12, "text": " That would have been, I don't know, I don't think it was called series 40 back then." }, { "start": 1643.12, "end": 1644.12, "text": " Did you get the back off?" }, { "start": 1644.12, "end": 1645.12, "text": " No, I can't get it off." }, { "start": 1645.12, "end": 1651.04, "text": " I mean, it was probably related, Vlad, but I don't think it was called series 40 at that" }, { "start": 1651.04, "end": 1652.04, "text": " time." }, { "start": 1652.04, "end": 1654.36, "text": " Fair enough, but that just got me thinking." }, { "start": 1654.36, "end": 1660.04, "text": " If Virtu would actually do one of those banana phones, I would just love it." }, { "start": 1660.04, "end": 1661.52, "text": " Yeah, absolutely." }, { "start": 1661.52, "end": 1669.28, "text": " Well, modern series 40, I mean, if you look at the very latest series 40 Asha phones that" }, { "start": 1669.28, "end": 1670.28, "text": " Nokia sells." }, { "start": 1670.28, "end": 1673.76, "text": " You just said modern series 40." }, { "start": 1673.76, "end": 1678.04, "text": " It's a very different thing than like, it's been so long since I've used a series 40 phone" }, { "start": 1678.04, "end": 1682.8, "text": " that like what's in my mind's eye of what series 40 is, is very different from what" }, { "start": 1682.8, "end": 1684.24, "text": " Nokia is actually selling, right?" }, { "start": 1684.24, "end": 1687.12, "text": " Like they're selling like a phone that looks and feels." }, { "start": 1687.12, "end": 1689.68, "text": " It's not from what Nokia is selling, but not from what Virtu is selling." }, { "start": 1689.68, "end": 1692.32, "text": " Those guys are using ancient stuff." }, { "start": 1692.32, "end": 1697.8, "text": " No, isn't the latest signature a touch screen with a keypad below it?" }, { "start": 1697.8, "end": 1698.8, "text": " No." }, { "start": 1698.8, "end": 1699.8, "text": " Oh." }, { "start": 1699.8, "end": 1700.8, "text": " I'm pretty sure it's not." }, { "start": 1700.8, "end": 1702.96, "text": " I don't want a signature anymore." }, { "start": 1702.96, "end": 1706.52, "text": " I was about to spend 10 Gs on a signature, but now I'm not." }, { "start": 1706.52, "end": 1710.4, "text": " The screen is so small, if you put your thumb on it to try and use it as a touch screen," }, { "start": 1710.4, "end": 1712.88, "text": " you'll cover the entire thing." }, { "start": 1712.88, "end": 1717.44, "text": " By the way, I was telling people in the office yesterday, Vlad, that when I do get my Virtu," }, { "start": 1717.44, "end": 1720.96, "text": " I'm going to have them custom make it out of human skin." }, { "start": 1720.96, "end": 1722.44, "text": " Wow." }, { "start": 1722.44, "end": 1723.92, "text": " I think that's the plan." }, { "start": 1723.92, "end": 1728.08, "text": " Because you know, you can get custom leathers on it, right?" }, { "start": 1728.08, "end": 1730.48, "text": " Just make sure that they put the lotion on before you." }, { "start": 1730.48, "end": 1731.8, "text": " Yeah, put the lotion on first." }, { "start": 1731.8, "end": 1733.6399999999999, "text": " God, LG skin is so bad." }, { "start": 1733.6399999999999, "end": 1734.96, "text": " LG skin is the worst." }, { "start": 1734.96, "end": 1738.12, "text": " If you have not used a skinned LG phone, you're in a world of hurt." }, { "start": 1738.12, "end": 1741, "text": " How do I get to, oh that's how I get to multi-net, oh my god." }, { "start": 1741, "end": 1743.76, "text": " It really does feel like a scaled up Galaxy Nexus though in the hand." }, { "start": 1743.76, "end": 1746.52, "text": " Yeah, that's exactly what it feels like to me." }, { "start": 1746.52, "end": 1751.44, "text": " So this is different than the, what's the Samsung one called?" }, { "start": 1751.44, "end": 1752.44, "text": " I'm like totally blank." }, { "start": 1752.44, "end": 1753.44, "text": " The Galaxy Round." }, { "start": 1753.44, "end": 1754.44, "text": " The Galaxy Round, right." }, { "start": 1754.44, "end": 1757.32, "text": " It's the other one and that curves the other way." }, { "start": 1757.32, "end": 1761.32, "text": " So instead of a banana phone, I don't know what 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face." }, { "start": 1785.12, "end": 1787.96, "text": " Like unless you never use it for calling." }, { "start": 1787.96, "end": 1792.32, "text": " I mean, it's so big though that I don't think the curve really presents much of an issue" }, { "start": 1792.32, "end": 1794.32, "text": " when you put it up to your face." }, { "start": 1794.32, "end": 1795.8400000000001, "text": " Like, because it's like this wide." }, { "start": 1795.8400000000001, "end": 1796.8400000000001, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 1796.8400000000001, "end": 1797.8400000000001, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1797.8400000000001, "end": 1801.48, "text": " Honestly guys, I really feel like both of these devices, Samsung and LG, they're not" }, { "start": 1801.48, "end": 1809, "text": " doing justice to the idea of a curved phone because when Dan picked up the six inch G-Flex," }, { "start": 1809, "end": 1812.24, "text": " the first thing that struck me is just that it's a massive phone." }, { "start": 1812.24, "end": 1814.24, "text": " Not that it's a curved one." }, { "start": 1814.24, "end": 1815.32, "text": " And that's the annoying thing." }, { "start": 1815.32, "end": 1819.96, "text": " If you have a curve or something like the G2, and by the way, the antenna isn't unique" }, { "start": 1819.96, "end": 1820.96, "text": " to the G-Flex." }, { "start": 1820.96, "end": 1824.4399999999998, "text": " The LG G2 for Korea also has an antenna." }, { "start": 1824.4399999999998, "end": 1828.36, "text": " They just have different priorities to us." }, { "start": 1828.36, "end": 1833.2, "text": " If you have that curve put on an ergonomically sound device, something that is actually a" }, { "start": 1833.2, "end": 1840.9199999999998, "text": " phone, curved like the G-Flex, I mean, I don't want to pay a massive premium for it, but" }, { "start": 1840.9199999999998, "end": 1842.04, "text": " it just feels to me." }, { "start": 1842.04, "end": 1843.04, "text": " I like it." }, { "start": 1843.04, "end": 1847.04, "text": " And particularly if it does actually flex and it has all those self-healing properties" }, { "start": 1847.04, "end": 1849.48, "text": " and whatnot, I think that's a step in the right direction." }, { "start": 1849.48, "end": 1854.48, "text": " Well like I said before, the real end game, the holy grail for what they're trying to" }, { "start": 1854.48, "end": 1859.6399999999999, "text": " do with these devices is not these devices, but it's the ultimate goal of creating flexible" }, { "start": 1859.6399999999999, "end": 1861.2, "text": " phones, right?" }, { "start": 1861.2, "end": 1866.24, "text": " Which are still a few years off, but the step one in that is making flexible displays and" }, { "start": 1866.24, "end": 1867.24, "text": " flexible batteries." }, { "start": 1867.24, "end": 1869.08, "text": " You need a flexible glass layer." }, { "start": 1869.08, "end": 1870.68, "text": " Like, where is this plastic on top?" }, { "start": 1870.68, "end": 1872.28, "text": " I don't even know." }, { "start": 1872.28, "end": 1874.6399999999999, "text": " Yeah, I mean they have a lot of work to do." }, { "start": 1874.6399999999999, "end": 1875.6399999999999, "text": " And flexible cameras." }, { "start": 1875.6399999999999, "end": 1879.84, "text": " I mean, there's so much more before you have a phone that you can roll up in your pocket." }, { "start": 1879.84, "end": 1880.84, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 1880.84, "end": 1885.48, "text": " Yeah, like Nokia had that prototype a couple years ago." }, { "start": 1885.48, "end": 1889.8799999999999, "text": " So can we talk about AT&T's new plan?" }, { "start": 1889.8799999999999, "end": 1894.84, "text": " I'd like to, but I have no idea." }, { "start": 1894.84, "end": 1896.24, "text": " It's a complete mystery to me." }, { "start": 1896.24, "end": 1901.36, "text": " No, literally, I mean this happens every time any carrier comes out with a new set of plans," }, { "start": 1901.36, "end": 1907.7199999999998, "text": " Dieter, myself, and Dante D'Orazio, who wrote our post on this, get on the phone for a full" }, { "start": 1907.7199999999998, "end": 1910.76, "text": " 24 hours and try to figure out what is going on." }, { "start": 1910.76, "end": 1911.76, "text": " Yeah, no, it's the worst." }, { "start": 1911.76, "end": 1918.1999999999998, "text": " So, I mean, like the short version that AT&T wants you to hear is they're finally not charging" }, { "start": 1918.1999999999998, "end": 1923.6, "text": " you the subsidy once you've paid off your two-year contract on your phone." }, { "start": 1923.6, "end": 1925.6, "text": " Did you hear what I said?" }, { "start": 1925.6, "end": 1926.6, "text": " Yes, you're right." }, { "start": 1926.6, "end": 1928.1999999999998, "text": " This is the message AT&T wants you to hear." }, { "start": 1928.1999999999998, "end": 1929.1999999999998, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 1929.2, "end": 1933.52, "text": " And I think that's great 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}, { "start": 2048.2000000000003, "end": 2049.2000000000003, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2049.2000000000003, "end": 2050.92, "text": " Yeah, so that's if you're part of the next plan." }, { "start": 2050.92, "end": 2054.92, "text": " But the thing is like even if – so for me for example, I'm an AT&T customer." }, { "start": 2054.92, "end": 2058.84, "text": " I've got one of their mobile share plans and I've got three smartphones on it with" }, { "start": 2058.84, "end": 2060.2000000000003, "text": " 6GB of data." }, { "start": 2060.2000000000003, "end": 2066.1400000000003, "text": " My plan is going up because they've raised the cost of each smartphone on – they lowered" }, { "start": 2066.1400000000003, "end": 2070.6800000000003, "text": " the cost of the 6GB data bucket but they raised the cost to have each smartphone and so it" }, { "start": 2070.6800000000003, "end": 2072.6200000000003, "text": " works out in AT&T's favor." }, { "start": 2072.6200000000003, "end": 2078.8, "text": " And if I got 8GB or if I added another smartphone, it would work out further in AT&T's favor." }, { "start": 2078.8, "end": 2081.6800000000003, "text": " So it's like they just kind of moved this money around." }, { "start": 2081.6800000000003, "end": 2085, "text": " They didn't really advertise any of that of course." }, { "start": 2085, "end": 2086, "text": " And it's just –" }, { "start": 2086, "end": 2090.16, "text": " Yeah, I mean let's be very clear." }, { "start": 2090.16, "end": 2099.8, "text": " For every quarter that AT&T makes it rain on its investors basically, they are not going" }, { "start": 2099.8, "end": 2104.64, "text": " to make any moves that jeopardize that profit margin." }, { "start": 2104.64, "end": 2110.32, "text": " So every – like when AT&T comes out with a series of plans that seem to suggest that" }, { "start": 2110.32, "end": 2114, "text": " you're just going to magically save more money than you used to, you really need to" }, { "start": 2114, "end": 2117.46, "text": " ask yourself well where is that money coming from?" }, { "start": 2117.46, "end": 2120.88, "text": " And there are people that will save money, it's just the number of those people is" }, { "start": 2120.88, "end": 2122.72, "text": " so incredibly small." }, { "start": 2122.72, "end": 2126.36, "text": " If you bought a Nexus 5 and you're out of contract and you're an AT&T customer, A," }, { "start": 2126.36, "end": 2130.38, "text": " why are you an AT&T customer, B, you'll save a little bit of money." }, { "start": 2130.38, "end": 2134.36, "text": " But the other people that are paying more per month are paying for that money that you're" }, { "start": 2134.36, "end": 2135.36, "text": " saving." }, { "start": 2135.36, "end": 2136.36, "text": " So it's like –" }, { "start": 2136.36, "end": 2139.48, "text": " Can I also add an analogy here which I think is really fitting?" }, { "start": 2139.48, "end": 2140.96, "text": " By all means." }, { "start": 2140.96, "end": 2146.88, "text": " It's when you get a message from your ISP or your broadband provider saying we are conducting" }, { "start": 2146.88, "end": 2148.86, "text": " upgrades in your area." }, { "start": 2148.86, "end": 2154.88, "text": " What that means to you is you're going to get downgrades, outages, etc. for at least" }, { "start": 2154.88, "end": 2156.3, "text": " a short period of time." }, { "start": 2156.3, "end": 2158.32, "text": " So this is exactly the same thing." }, { "start": 2158.32, "end": 2163.88, "text": " AT&T announces opportunity to lower your price plan, your price cost, whatever, and then" }, { "start": 2163.88, "end": 2166.64, "text": " guys like Dan are like well actually my bill just rose." }, { "start": 2166.64, "end": 2168.32, "text": " So it's exactly the same thing." }, { "start": 2168.32, "end": 2172.2400000000002, "text": " We're doing upgrades which actually means downgrades to your service at least for the" }, { "start": 2172.2400000000002, "end": 2173.2400000000002, "text": " interim." }, { "start": 2173.2400000000002, "end": 2177.44, "text": " But honestly I totally agree with you guys." }, { "start": 2177.44, "end": 2184.04, "text": " Anytime I hear one of these announcements other than T-Mobile, my eyes just start glazing" }, { "start": 2184.04, "end": 2191.28, "text": " over because I know you're going to essentially need to do enough research for a PhD to really" }, { "start": 2191.28, "end": 2197, "text": " understand what the hell is going on with these supposedly simplifying plans." }, { "start": 2197, "end": 2198.56, "text": " Oh yeah, no." }, { "start": 2198.56, "end": 2200.76, "text": " I've actually coined a term for this." }, { "start": 2200.76, "end": 2202.96, "text": " It's the science of obfuscation of value." }, { "start": 2202.96, "end": 2208.2, "text": " They want to make it as unclear as possible what is happening to you." }, { "start": 2208.2, "end": 2213.64, "text": " And they succeed every single time unless people like Dieter and I and Dante spend an" }, { "start": 2213.64, "end": 2217.84, "text": " entire day trying to disambiguate the plans and sometimes even we fail." }, { "start": 2217.84, "end": 2220.88, "text": " We find out that there's a math error somewhere." }, { "start": 2220.88, "end": 2221.88, "text": " So like…" }, { "start": 2221.88, "end": 2223.76, "text": " Marketing is the obfuscation of value." }, { "start": 2223.76, "end": 2225.76, "text": " That's the whole industry there." }, { "start": 2225.76, "end": 2226.76, "text": " That's absolutely true." }, { "start": 2226.76, "end": 2230.5200000000004, "text": " And then you know, the bottom line is that the average consumer, especially if they haven't" }, { "start": 2230.5200000000004, "end": 2234.1600000000003, "text": " done their research and I don't blame them if they haven't, doesn't stand a chance." }, { "start": 2234.1600000000003, "end": 2235.96, "text": " They're just going to see…" }, { "start": 2235.96, "end": 2241.32, "text": " I'm sure AT&T is going to have an ad campaign for this and as Stan pointed out, there are" }, { "start": 2241.32, "end": 2243.44, "text": " people who are going to save money on this." }, { "start": 2243.44, "end": 2246.92, "text": " It's just not a very, very large demographic." }, { "start": 2246.92, "end": 2251.36, "text": " So here's an alternative and you're going to have to hear me out here." }, { "start": 2251.36, "end": 2256.6400000000003, "text": " Why don't you guys, Americans in general, so like all 300 million of you…" }, { "start": 2256.64, "end": 2262.72, "text": " Yeah, partially, you know, rebel, go against the system." }, { "start": 2262.72, "end": 2264.68, "text": " Here's why AT&T can turn the screws like this." }, { "start": 2264.68, "end": 2268.56, "text": " I thought you were going to say here's why there's not going to be a revolution." }, { "start": 2268.56, "end": 2272.3599999999997, "text": " The reason that AT&T can turn the screws and it's not going to affect its bottom line" }, { "start": 2272.3599999999997, "end": 2276.48, "text": " is because at the end of the day, I get better service that's more reliable and faster" }, { "start": 2276.48, "end": 2282.2599999999998, "text": " in AT&T than I do from T-Mobile or Sprint or any other whatever carrier that I can save" }, { "start": 2282.2599999999998, "end": 2283.2599999999998, "text": " money with." }, { "start": 2283.26, "end": 2287.8, "text": " Unfortunately, for me, that means I'm stuck with AT&T and they keep raising the prices" }, { "start": 2287.8, "end": 2292.1600000000003, "text": " and I just kind of have to keep forking the money over because it is a significant step" }, { "start": 2292.1600000000003, "end": 2296.7200000000003, "text": " down in service, at least for where I live and where I use my phone, it's a significant" }, { "start": 2296.7200000000003, "end": 2297.88, "text": " step down to move to T-Mobile." }, { "start": 2297.88, "end": 2301.32, "text": " Now we should clarify, you don't… they didn't force you to the new plan." }, { "start": 2301.32, "end": 2304.0400000000004, "text": " They didn't force me to the new plan but I don't know what's going to happen the" }, { "start": 2304.0400000000004, "end": 2307.28, "text": " next time I get a new phone or add a line or something like that." }, { "start": 2307.28, "end": 2310, "text": " That's always kind of the big mystery or whatever." }, { "start": 2310, "end": 2312.92, "text": " Essentially, the plans that they're offering now are more expensive than the plans they" }, { "start": 2312.92, "end": 2313.92, "text": " offered last week." }, { "start": 2313.92, "end": 2314.92, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 2314.92, "end": 2315.92, "text": " And that's the bottom line." }, { "start": 2315.92, "end": 2319.88, "text": " You know, I've said it before, like to be very clear, no one is arguing that AT&T should" }, { "start": 2319.88, "end": 2324.6800000000003, "text": " match T-Mobile's pricing dollar for dollar because AT&T does have a significantly larger" }, { "start": 2324.6800000000003, "end": 2330.28, "text": " footprint and offers LTE in way more places so it's just not an apples to apples comparison." }, { "start": 2330.28, "end": 2335.2400000000002, "text": " Like you're paying more to get a more ubiquitous service and that makes sense." }, { "start": 2335.2400000000002, "end": 2342.64, "text": " The problem is that AT&T is playing 10 times as many pricing games as T-Mobile is and that's" }, { "start": 2342.64, "end": 2343.64, "text": " the frustrating thing." }, { "start": 2343.64, "end": 2347.04, "text": " If they would just be straight with people and say, yes you're paying a little bit" }, { "start": 2347.04, "end": 2353.24, "text": " more for a higher quality product, then everyone would be fine I think, including us and we" }, { "start": 2353.24, "end": 2355.2, "text": " would not be going nuts over it." }, { "start": 2355.2, "end": 2357.8799999999997, "text": " But the fact that they intentionally make it difficult to figure out what's going" }, { "start": 2357.8799999999997, "end": 2358.8799999999997, "text": " on is what upsets me." }, { "start": 2358.8799999999997, "end": 2363.16, "text": " Or when their profits are like record breaking every quarter and then they raise prices." }, { "start": 2363.16, "end": 2364.16, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 2364.16, "end": 2367.16, "text": " So, is anyone interested in my alternative proposition?" }, { "start": 2367.16, "end": 2368.16, "text": " By all means." }, { "start": 2368.16, "end": 2369.16, "text": " Yeah, let's hear it." }, { "start": 2369.16, "end": 2370.16, "text": " No, yeah." }, { "start": 2370.16, "end": 2371.16, "text": " I said it's a rebellion." }, { "start": 2371.16, "end": 2374.16, "text": " I didn't say it's a revolution." }, { "start": 2374.16, "end": 2380.64, "text": " What you want to do is come over to the UK, get yourself a contract with free, get yourself" }, { "start": 2380.64, "end": 2383.2, "text": " a ton of data, voice, minutes, whatever." }, { "start": 2383.2, "end": 2387.2799999999997, "text": " I guarantee you it's going to be less than half the price you pay with AT&T." }, { "start": 2387.2799999999997, "end": 2392.8399999999997, "text": " Then jet back over to the United States where you'll be able to roam with your UK data on" }, { "start": 2392.8399999999997, "end": 2395.12, "text": " free." }, { "start": 2395.12, "end": 2400.16, "text": " The problem arises when people ask me for my phone number." }, { "start": 2400.16, "end": 2404.52, "text": " And I'm like, oh, we'll just dial plus 440144926348926." }, { "start": 2404.52, "end": 2405.52, "text": " Do I get LTE?" }, { "start": 2405.52, "end": 2408.04, "text": " Does free LTE work in the US?" }, { "start": 2408.04, "end": 2410.56, "text": " Although Google Voice charges for international calls." }, { "start": 2410.56, "end": 2411.56, "text": " Yeah, you can't do that." }, { "start": 2411.56, "end": 2412.56, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2412.56, "end": 2415.04, "text": " I'm not sure that it does that." }, { "start": 2415.04, "end": 2420.6, "text": " But I will have a very detailed breakdown of this come CES in January because myself" }, { "start": 2420.6, "end": 2425.3599999999997, "text": " and Aaron from our London team, we're already on free and we're bringing our allowances" }, { "start": 2425.3599999999997, "end": 2426.3599999999997, "text": " with us." }, { "start": 2426.36, "end": 2432.2400000000002, "text": " I mean, this is my really, really roundabout way just to congratulate free on letting" }, { "start": 2432.2400000000002, "end": 2438.1600000000003, "text": " people use their data and their allowance outside of the UK." }, { "start": 2438.1600000000003, "end": 2441.1600000000003, "text": " They've already done it with quite a few European countries." }, { "start": 2441.1600000000003, "end": 2444.28, "text": " Denmark and Italy I think are on the list." }, { "start": 2444.28, "end": 2448.2400000000002, "text": " And recently they just added the United States, Hong Kong and some other places." }, { "start": 2448.2400000000002, "end": 2450.92, "text": " Is this like what T-Mobile offers with the international roaming?" }, { "start": 2450.92, "end": 2451.92, "text": " No, it's not 2G." }, { "start": 2451.92, "end": 2452.92, "text": " It should be 3G at least." }, { "start": 2452.92, "end": 2453.92, "text": " Cool." }, { "start": 2453.92, "end": 2457.2000000000003, "text": " I don't know about LTE." }, { "start": 2457.2000000000003, "end": 2460.6800000000003, "text": " Does 3 have LTE in the UK?" }, { "start": 2460.6800000000003, "end": 2462.6, "text": " It just turned it on apparently." }, { "start": 2462.6, "end": 2467.28, "text": " I haven't seen it yet which is saddening for me." }, { "start": 2467.28, "end": 2470.16, "text": " But it's going to roll out." }, { "start": 2470.16, "end": 2471.2400000000002, "text": " Things are looking up." }, { "start": 2471.2400000000002, "end": 2475, "text": " Also on the plus side in the UK is Tom Warren." }, { "start": 2475, "end": 2483.58, "text": " He's with Vodafone and he has had pretty atrocious signal at his house for ages with Vodafone." }, { "start": 2483.58, "end": 2488.4, "text": " But they've recently also turned on 4G and now that he can get 4G signal at home, that" }, { "start": 2488.4, "end": 2490, "text": " actually improved the signal dramatically." }, { "start": 2490, "end": 2491.4, "text": " Yeah, but it's in…" }, { "start": 2491.4, "end": 2492.88, "text": " Things are picking up." }, { "start": 2492.88, "end": 2494.64, "text": " But he's not using Volte, right?" }, { "start": 2494.64, "end": 2495.64, "text": " So that doesn't affect…" }, { "start": 2495.64, "end": 2496.64, "text": " No, of course not." }, { "start": 2496.64, "end": 2500.48, "text": " So that doesn't affect call quality, just data quality." }, { "start": 2500.48, "end": 2507.88, "text": " Yeah, but then again, guys like myself and Tom, we only really call our mothers and grandmothers" }, { "start": 2507.88, "end": 2509.7999999999997, "text": " on occasion." }, { "start": 2509.7999999999997, "end": 2511.48, "text": " Everything else is data, man." }, { "start": 2511.48, "end": 2512.48, "text": " That's true." }, { "start": 2512.48, "end": 2518.52, "text": " I don't know, do you guys want to talk about iPhone stuff?" }, { "start": 2518.52, "end": 2519.52, "text": " They've got iBeacon." }, { "start": 2519.52, "end": 2523.76, "text": " They signed a deal with China Mobile finally." }, { "start": 2523.76, "end": 2525.52, "text": " So the iBeacon thing…" }, { "start": 2525.52, "end": 2534.78, "text": " Yeah, Chris Welch went to a couple of Apple stores here in New York City on Friday when" }, { "start": 2534.78, "end": 2536.78, "text": " it launched to check it out." }, { "start": 2536.78, "end": 2543.52, "text": " And the concept is they have these low power Bluetooth beacons installed around the store" }, { "start": 2543.52, "end": 2548.84, "text": " and as you approach those areas, you'll get notifications or pop-ups on your phone" }, { "start": 2548.84, "end": 2551.6400000000003, "text": " saying hey, check this out or check that out." }, { "start": 2551.6400000000003, "end": 2555.84, "text": " Which you can see if you're at an unfamiliar store, especially a big store like Macy's" }, { "start": 2555.84, "end": 2557.96, "text": " where they're trialing this, it may be making…" }, { "start": 2557.96, "end": 2558.96, "text": " I mean it's pretty awesome." }, { "start": 2558.96, "end": 2561.38, "text": " You never actually have to talk to a human being." }, { "start": 2561.38, "end": 2563.7200000000003, "text": " If you can go into an Apple store, walk around, get notified on Apple Store, you can go into" }, { "start": 2563.72, "end": 2568.24, "text": " an Apple store, walk around, get notified on your phone of what cool things there are" }, { "start": 2568.24, "end": 2572.16, "text": " to look at, then you can pick the item up, pay for it with your phone and walk out of" }, { "start": 2572.16, "end": 2573.16, "text": " the store without ever having to talk to somebody." }, { "start": 2573.16, "end": 2578.48, "text": " I'll tell you what, I did that with my case for my 5S and it definitely felt like shoplifting." }, { "start": 2578.48, "end": 2580.68, "text": " Even though I paid for it." }, { "start": 2580.68, "end": 2584.16, "text": " Because nobody was available and I wanted to talk to somebody to buy it and finally" }, { "start": 2584.16, "end": 2586.52, "text": " I'm like screw it, I'm just going to pay for it with my phone and I just walked out" }, { "start": 2586.52, "end": 2587.8399999999997, "text": " and I'm like I considered running." }, { "start": 2587.8399999999997, "end": 2592.04, "text": " You walked out, it's in your hand, you've got no bag." }, { "start": 2592.04, "end": 2596.6, "text": " I was like waiting for the security agent to tackle me but nobody did." }, { "start": 2596.6, "end": 2599.1, "text": " How do you think they track that?" }, { "start": 2599.1, "end": 2604, "text": " They must be looking at the cameras to see if you're using the app, I don't know." }, { "start": 2604, "end": 2605, "text": " It's the only way." }, { "start": 2605, "end": 2606, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2606, "end": 2607, "text": " I mean I don't know." }, { "start": 2607, "end": 2609.48, "text": " But so anyway, I beacon." }, { "start": 2609.48, "end": 2614.84, "text": " Chris went to the Grand Central store first which is a huge sprawling one level store" }, { "start": 2614.84, "end": 2619.68, "text": " in Grand Central Station and it didn't work." }, { "start": 2619.68, "end": 2624.08, "text": " And he talked to the agents and they were saying yes it should be working, he couldn't" }, { "start": 2624.08, "end": 2625.08, "text": " get it to work." }, { "start": 2625.08, "end": 2633, "text": " So then he went over to the cube, the iconic cube on 5th Avenue and he kind of got it working." }, { "start": 2633, "end": 2634, "text": " I think." }, { "start": 2634, "end": 2635, "text": " And he found one." }, { "start": 2635, "end": 2639.7599999999998, "text": " Yes, yeah and he found the actual unit and it's this metal box mounted underneath the" }, { "start": 2639.7599999999998, "end": 2640.7599999999998, "text": " shelf." }, { "start": 2640.7599999999998, "end": 2647.2799999999997, "text": " So they can just put it wherever they want to attract customers' attention." }, { "start": 2647.28, "end": 2650.88, "text": " And so you can totally see how this would be valuable in a big store that you've never" }, { "start": 2650.88, "end": 2651.88, "text": " been in before." }, { "start": 2651.88, "end": 2652.88, "text": " No." }, { "start": 2652.88, "end": 2653.88, "text": " It's awesome." }, { "start": 2653.88, "end": 2654.88, "text": " You're not into it?" }, { "start": 2654.88, "end": 2655.88, "text": " No." }, { "start": 2655.88, "end": 2662.52, "text": " Yeah but you're also not into commercialism, capitalism, spending money, materialism, buying" }, { "start": 2662.52, "end": 2664.52, "text": " things, items, objects." }, { "start": 2664.52, "end": 2665.52, "text": " You're not into any of that." }, { "start": 2665.52, "end": 2666.52, "text": " So of course you're not into that." }, { "start": 2666.52, "end": 2667.52, "text": " Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait." }, { "start": 2667.52, "end": 2671.92, "text": " I was with you all along until you said items and objects." }, { "start": 2671.92, "end": 2675.4, "text": " Items and objects." }, { "start": 2675.4, "end": 2676.88, "text": " You don't like any of those things." }, { "start": 2676.88, "end": 2677.88, "text": " Look." }, { "start": 2677.88, "end": 2680.4, "text": " Brad disagrees with the concept of physicality." }, { "start": 2680.4, "end": 2687.6400000000003, "text": " Yeah, I mean there's a distinction between not liking materialism and not liking the" }, { "start": 2687.6400000000003, "end": 2688.6400000000003, "text": " material world." }, { "start": 2688.6400000000003, "end": 2689.6400000000003, "text": " It's a concept." }, { "start": 2689.6400000000003, "end": 2693.56, "text": " Look, I'll just keep it very simple." }, { "start": 2693.56, "end": 2702.04, "text": " It's like I like the idea of a chair but then I dislike the idea of like a golden ruby," }, { "start": 2702.04, "end": 2704.4, "text": " you know, encrusted throne." }, { "start": 2704.4, "end": 2710.28, "text": " You would prefer to handcraft the chair out of found materials." }, { "start": 2710.28, "end": 2711.28, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2711.28, "end": 2712.28, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2712.28, "end": 2714.28, "text": " Well, okay then." }, { "start": 2714.28, "end": 2720.8, "text": " I would probably use the rinds of like winter squash to make it really rustic." }, { "start": 2720.8, "end": 2725.96, "text": " I'm sorry, I had a thing." }, { "start": 2725.96, "end": 2728.56, "text": " Would you wait until they were dry?" }, { "start": 2728.56, "end": 2730.04, "text": " Just squishy squash." }, { "start": 2730.04, "end": 2732.7200000000003, "text": " No, that's the point." }, { "start": 2732.7200000000003, "end": 2734.1600000000003, "text": " Winter squash is really hard rind." }, { "start": 2734.16, "end": 2736.6, "text": " That's why it's winter rather than summer." }, { "start": 2736.6, "end": 2738.48, "text": " Squishy stuff is summer squash." }, { "start": 2738.48, "end": 2739.72, "text": " Can you put marshmallow on the wood to squash?" }, { "start": 2739.72, "end": 2743.68, "text": " Would it actually have legs or would it just be like a solid base?" }, { "start": 2743.68, "end": 2747.7999999999997, "text": " Like a plug or would it be able to support your weight?" }, { "start": 2747.7999999999997, "end": 2751, "text": " That would depend on the design and development process." }, { "start": 2751, "end": 2752.44, "text": " I mean I would have to iterate." }, { "start": 2752.44, "end": 2754.3999999999996, "text": " Obviously, I can't tell you in advance." }, { "start": 2754.3999999999996, "end": 2756.3999999999996, "text": " That would be just guessing." }, { "start": 2756.3999999999996, "end": 2758.3999999999996, "text": " That would be foolish." }, { "start": 2758.4, "end": 2765.8, "text": " If you had to eat that much squash in order to not only make a chair but be able to design" }, { "start": 2765.8, "end": 2769.6800000000003, "text": " and iterate on your design of that chair over and over again." }, { "start": 2769.6800000000003, "end": 2770.6800000000003, "text": " I mean you'd feed it." }, { "start": 2770.6800000000003, "end": 2776.6, "text": " I got to think that would play havoc with your digestive system." }, { "start": 2776.6, "end": 2777.6, "text": " Digestive system?" }, { "start": 2777.6, "end": 2778.6, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2778.6, "end": 2784.2000000000003, "text": " But you'd feed the squash to your livestock which you're going to slaughter for protein." }, { "start": 2784.2000000000003, "end": 2786.2400000000002, "text": " Good point, Chris." }, { "start": 2786.2400000000002, "end": 2787.2400000000002, "text": " I haven't figured it out." }, { "start": 2787.24, "end": 2795.52, "text": " I mean I feel like if I have a squash, a cabbage patch and a few chickens, that would be it." }, { "start": 2795.52, "end": 2796.52, "text": " That and a broadband connection." }, { "start": 2796.52, "end": 2797.52, "text": " And maybe a chicken." }, { "start": 2797.52, "end": 2798.52, "text": " And maybe I'll see you." }, { "start": 2798.52, "end": 2799.52, "text": " I'm really like…" }, { "start": 2799.52, "end": 2803.72, "text": " If you feed the chickens, you won't have a few chickens for very long." }, { "start": 2803.72, "end": 2805.72, "text": " More than a few." }, { "start": 2805.72, "end": 2807.9199999999996, "text": " I'll go more than a few." }, { "start": 2807.9199999999996, "end": 2810.24, "text": " I'll go for the eggs primarily." }, { "start": 2810.24, "end": 2813.72, "text": " But they would be reproducing chickens." }, { "start": 2813.72, "end": 2816.24, "text": " Like they would have smaller chickens." }, { "start": 2816.24, "end": 2818.6, "text": " Yeah, I would have to have a cock as well." }, { "start": 2818.6, "end": 2819.6, "text": " That would be mandatory." }, { "start": 2819.6, "end": 2820.6, "text": " It's the word, bro." }, { "start": 2820.6, "end": 2821.6, "text": " Bring it back to shopping." }, { "start": 2821.6, "end": 2822.6, "text": " No comment." }, { "start": 2822.6, "end": 2823.6, "text": " Yes, back to shopping." }, { "start": 2823.6, "end": 2824.6, "text": " iBeacon, please." }, { "start": 2824.6, "end": 2825.6, "text": " Somebody talk about iBeacon." }, { "start": 2825.6, "end": 2826.6, "text": " It's tough to me." }, { "start": 2826.6, "end": 2827.6, "text": " I think you had a great coop with iBeacon." }, { "start": 2827.6, "end": 2839.6, "text": " You would know when you walked in the Bluetooth thing when the egg goes through." }, { "start": 2839.6, "end": 2844.04, "text": " Yes, a Bluetooth low energy enabled egg." }, { "start": 2844.04, "end": 2847.16, "text": " No." }, { "start": 2847.16, "end": 2851.8, "text": " As a person who hates going into retail stores to buy things, which I occasionally have to" }, { "start": 2851.8, "end": 2855.48, "text": " do despite Amazon existence, I think iBeacon is a great thing." }, { "start": 2855.48, "end": 2859.04, "text": " Yeah, if they implement it properly." }, { "start": 2859.04, "end": 2863.16, "text": " Let's stop talking about it as iBeacon as if Apple just invented us." }, { "start": 2863.16, "end": 2865.66, "text": " These are Bluetooth…" }, { "start": 2865.66, "end": 2867.32, "text": " This is just using Bluetooth." }, { "start": 2867.32, "end": 2872.32, "text": " And Qualcomm has just announced pretty much the exact same thing with…" }, { "start": 2872.32, "end": 2875.32, "text": " I don't know what they call them, gumbo beacons or whatever it is." }, { "start": 2875.32, "end": 2878.2400000000002, "text": " So they're essentially doing the same process." }, { "start": 2878.2400000000002, "end": 2886.0800000000004, "text": " To me, what I don't like is all this kind of unnecessary technology that is coming into" }, { "start": 2886.0800000000004, "end": 2887.0800000000004, "text": " the retail process." }, { "start": 2887.0800000000004, "end": 2888.0800000000004, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 2888.0800000000004, "end": 2891.6400000000003, "text": " Like I said, I'm just not a fan." }, { "start": 2891.6400000000003, "end": 2894.8, "text": " These aren't really things that you need." }, { "start": 2894.8, "end": 2899.6000000000004, "text": " I can see totally the benefit to Apple and anybody else who's using that technology" }, { "start": 2899.6, "end": 2902.56, "text": " because they can track the hell out of you." }, { "start": 2902.56, "end": 2908.3199999999997, "text": " There was a few months back some controversy about a US mall tracking people by their cell" }, { "start": 2908.3199999999997, "end": 2911.96, "text": " phone, tracking people's location without letting them know." }, { "start": 2911.96, "end": 2916.6, "text": " You start using iBeacons and what not and if they get popular enough, then everybody" }, { "start": 2916.6, "end": 2921.2, "text": " will know exactly which store you're going, which aisles you're shopping through, the" }, { "start": 2921.2, "end": 2925.72, "text": " fact that you might have an unhealthy obsession with vegetables, etc." }, { "start": 2925.72, "end": 2930.9599999999996, "text": " I mean, it's kind of circumstantial information that people can pick up about you." }, { "start": 2930.9599999999996, "end": 2934.12, "text": " No, you're right, but I've said for a long time and I understand many people won't" }, { "start": 2934.12, "end": 2935.12, "text": " agree with me on this." }, { "start": 2935.12, "end": 2939.12, "text": " I want companies to track the hell out of me." }, { "start": 2939.12, "end": 2941.52, "text": " I want to be targeted." }, { "start": 2941.52, "end": 2945.56, "text": " I want to see only the ads for products that are going to appeal to me." }, { "start": 2945.56, "end": 2951.2, "text": " I want to get coupons and special offers for companies that these marketers know that I'm" }, { "start": 2951.2, "end": 2952.48, "text": " going to shop at." }, { "start": 2952.48, "end": 2957.32, "text": " I don't want to get ads that are of no interest to me." }, { "start": 2957.32, "end": 2961.16, "text": " Please, track the crap out of me." }, { "start": 2961.16, "end": 2964.52, "text": " No matter what, no matter how much you get tracked, I'm still going to send you Dunkin'" }, { "start": 2964.52, "end": 2968.16, "text": " Donuts coupons so you're still going to get coupons that you don't want." }, { "start": 2968.16, "end": 2969.16, "text": " Damn it." }, { "start": 2969.16, "end": 2975.08, "text": " You know what else is kind of depressing to me about tracking and things like Google Now" }, { "start": 2975.08, "end": 2982.6, "text": " is the issue that most of the time I'm actually just at home." }, { "start": 2982.6, "end": 2988, "text": " So looking at Google Now and it's location tracking of me and just seeing this big growing" }, { "start": 2988, "end": 2994.36, "text": " dot where I keep staying and not moving instead of like a varied map with my varied life and" }, { "start": 2994.36, "end": 2998.12, "text": " whatnot, it's kind of depressing also." }, { "start": 2998.12, "end": 3003.62, "text": " So you're basically just saying that you're not an iBeacon fan?" }, { "start": 3003.62, "end": 3006.4, "text": " Not much of one, no." }, { "start": 3006.4, "end": 3009.3599999999997, "text": " I think that this kind of technology is here to stay." }, { "start": 3009.3599999999997, "end": 3015.68, "text": " You know Shopkick, which I believe Macy's is partnering with for their iBeacon implementation," }, { "start": 3015.68, "end": 3018.96, "text": " Shopkick has been doing a variation of this for a long time but using audio." }, { "start": 3018.96, "end": 3024.16, "text": " Sorry, those of you listening to the podcast edition, not watching the video, I just banged" }, { "start": 3024.16, "end": 3030, "text": " my microphone with my beer and then called out in the middle of it." }, { "start": 3030, "end": 3033.96, "text": " It's not going to get edited in post because I've called it out here." }, { "start": 3033.96, "end": 3036.52, "text": " I've interrupted you." }, { "start": 3036.52, "end": 3037.52, "text": " Where are you going with this?" }, { "start": 3037.52, "end": 3040.52, "text": " I think I'm just apologizing." }, { "start": 3040.52, "end": 3044.48, "text": " Deeter's a couple beers deep." }, { "start": 3044.48, "end": 3048.7, "text": " Look I'm saying that Shopkick had been doing this using audio." }, { "start": 3048.7, "end": 3049.7, "text": " They had a big..." }, { "start": 3049.7, "end": 3055.64, "text": " Oh yeah, I was going to tell you that nobody cares about Shopkick at YU." }, { "start": 3055.64, "end": 3058.56, "text": " Look please, I'm too far into this story to abandon it at this point." }, { "start": 3058.56, "end": 3063.24, "text": " They had an implementation going back at least four or five years, maybe less, I don't know," }, { "start": 3063.24, "end": 3071.08, "text": " but a while with Best Buy where if you installed the Shopkick or Best Buy app, one or the other," }, { "start": 3071.08, "end": 3079.2799999999997, "text": " when you walked into a store, the Best Buy store had this silent audio playing that the" }, { "start": 3079.2799999999997, "end": 3080.2799999999997, "text": " phone could pick up." }, { "start": 3080.2799999999997, "end": 3081.2799999999997, "text": " It was really creepy." }, { "start": 3081.2799999999997, "end": 3083.56, "text": " It was like a dog whistle basically." }, { "start": 3083.56, "end": 3088.08, "text": " And then using that tone, the phone knows which store you're in." }, { "start": 3088.08, "end": 3091.16, "text": " It's really messed up actually." }, { "start": 3091.16, "end": 3096.48, "text": " You find that creepy because there's a silent audio tone that only the phone can hear." }, { "start": 3096.48, "end": 3098.46, "text": " Yeah, because they could be reprogramming my brain." }, { "start": 3098.46, "end": 3101.6, "text": " But the actual tracking of you, you're totally cool." }, { "start": 3101.6, "end": 3104.64, "text": " Through silent radio waves and GPS." }, { "start": 3104.64, "end": 3108.72, "text": " I've already been tracked enough in my life so that the special offers I get via email" }, { "start": 3108.72, "end": 3111.7599999999998, "text": " and the ads I see on sites are pretty on point." }, { "start": 3111.7599999999998, "end": 3118, "text": " I see at least one ad for a BMW a day and I'm totally okay with that." }, { "start": 3118, "end": 3119, "text": " Please just track me." }, { "start": 3119, "end": 3121.84, "text": " How many gold shoe ads do you see?" }, { "start": 3121.84, "end": 3126.32, "text": " Actually there's an uptick in that since I went to GoHan site." }, { "start": 3126.32, "end": 3128.14, "text": " So yeah, I'm just not creeped out by it." }, { "start": 3128.14, "end": 3132.8, "text": " I think if it, you know, there are probably going to be implementations of this that aren't" }, { "start": 3132.8, "end": 3133.8, "text": " helpful." }, { "start": 3133.8, "end": 3139.4, "text": " If you read Chris' report, he didn't find it necessarily too helpful at the queue, but" }, { "start": 3139.4, "end": 3140.4, "text": " it was day one." }, { "start": 3140.4, "end": 3141.4, "text": " This is still considered a trial." }, { "start": 3141.4, "end": 3143.8, "text": " They don't have the final implementation of it." }, { "start": 3143.8, "end": 3146.08, "text": " It could get better." }, { "start": 3146.08, "end": 3150.3199999999997, "text": " But you can imagine there are situations where it could be helpful is all I'm saying." }, { "start": 3150.3199999999997, "end": 3152.84, "text": " We've talked about it, I've been talking for way too long." }, { "start": 3152.84, "end": 3153.84, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3153.84, "end": 3154.84, "text": " Fair enough." }, { "start": 3154.84, "end": 3157.2799999999997, "text": " However, let me just point out that Chris, you just presented yourself as a completely" }, { "start": 3157.2799999999997, "end": 3165.56, "text": " unreliable witness in this insofar as information coming into your phone is creepy, but everything" }, { "start": 3165.56, "end": 3170.7999999999997, "text": " about you and where you're going and what you're doing coming out of your phone to some" }, { "start": 3170.8, "end": 3176.6800000000003, "text": " disembodied corporation that might do whatever it wants with that information, perfectly fine." }, { "start": 3176.6800000000003, "end": 3177.6800000000003, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 3177.6800000000003, "end": 3178.6800000000003, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 3178.6800000000003, "end": 3181.32, "text": " See, this is great." }, { "start": 3181.32, "end": 3186.88, "text": " If you're going to like jury service selection, this would be like, yeah, I don't think we're" }, { "start": 3186.88, "end": 3188.36, "text": " going to have this guy on." }, { "start": 3188.36, "end": 3189.36, "text": " Well, good." }, { "start": 3189.36, "end": 3191.2400000000002, "text": " I don't want to do jury duty anyway." }, { "start": 3191.2400000000002, "end": 3192.88, "text": " That's what I'm saying." }, { "start": 3192.88, "end": 3199.04, "text": " It's really instructive to like show people that you have no internal logic whatsoever." }, { "start": 3199.04, "end": 3200.36, "text": " I have no logic." }, { "start": 3200.36, "end": 3204.6800000000003, "text": " I have no sense of like what is right and what is wrong." }, { "start": 3204.6800000000003, "end": 3206.56, "text": " I have none of that." }, { "start": 3206.56, "end": 3211.36, "text": " So you're never going to install CyanogenMod because you don't want to deal with their" }, { "start": 3211.36, "end": 3217.84, "text": " by default encrypted text messaging to other CyanogenMod users because you want to be tracked." }, { "start": 3217.84, "end": 3218.84, "text": " Transition alert." }, { "start": 3218.84, "end": 3219.84, "text": " That's really good, right?" }, { "start": 3219.84, "end": 3220.84, "text": " It wasn't bad." }, { "start": 3220.84, "end": 3224.88, "text": " It's funny, Dieter framed it as deal with it." }, { "start": 3224.88, "end": 3225.88, "text": " There's nothing to deal with." }, { "start": 3225.88, "end": 3229.32, "text": " I think this is actually like one of the best implementations." }, { "start": 3229.32, "end": 3234.76, "text": " Just to set this up, CyanogenMod announced that it's by default encrypted text messaging" }, { "start": 3234.76, "end": 3239.4, "text": " between CyanogenMod users is coming to its platform." }, { "start": 3239.4, "end": 3242.92, "text": " So if it's using Open Whisper?" }, { "start": 3242.92, "end": 3246.36, "text": " Yes, I believe that's the name of it." }, { "start": 3246.36, "end": 3250.1200000000003, "text": " If somebody's using CyanogenMod and they send a text message to another CyanogenMod user," }, { "start": 3250.1200000000003, "end": 3254.28, "text": " it's automatically encrypted and it's using really high level single use encryption and" }, { "start": 3254.28, "end": 3255.28, "text": " stuff like that." }, { "start": 3255.28, "end": 3256.28, "text": " It's really great stuff." }, { "start": 3256.28, "end": 3259.7200000000003, "text": " The thing that makes it so good and smart is the fact that the user doesn't have to" }, { "start": 3259.7200000000003, "end": 3260.7200000000003, "text": " do anything to set it up." }, { "start": 3260.7200000000003, "end": 3263.6400000000003, "text": " They turn on their phone, they set up their phone like they normally would and boom, all" }, { "start": 3263.6400000000003, "end": 3266.88, "text": " their texts between CyanogenMod are encrypted." }, { "start": 3266.88, "end": 3268.6800000000003, "text": " The analogy for me is iMessage." }, { "start": 3268.6800000000003, "end": 3272.92, "text": " Overnight Apple had insane saturation with iMessage." }, { "start": 3272.92, "end": 3275, "text": " This is going to be the same situation but for Cyanogen users." }, { "start": 3275, "end": 3276.8, "text": " You don't have to think about it, it's just there." }, { "start": 3276.8, "end": 3280.7200000000003, "text": " Now of course if you're using Cyanogen to begin with, the odds of you seeking this out" }, { "start": 3280.7200000000003, "end": 3285.32, "text": " are naturally higher anyway, but it's still cool that this is going to be the default" }, { "start": 3285.32, "end": 3286.32, "text": " option." }, { "start": 3286.32, "end": 3291.2000000000003, "text": " It's a first step in maybe something that more mainstream platforms could adopt in the" }, { "start": 3291.2000000000003, "end": 3292.2000000000003, "text": " future." }, { "start": 3292.2000000000003, "end": 3294.52, "text": " It's cool, I guess." }, { "start": 3294.52, "end": 3297.0800000000004, "text": " If you're worried about encrypted text messaging." }, { "start": 3297.0800000000004, "end": 3301.44, "text": " Actually speaking of messaging, did you guys see Ellis' report on this startup called" }, { "start": 3301.44, "end": 3302.44, "text": " Layer?" }, { "start": 3302.44, "end": 3303.44, "text": " Yes, yes." }, { "start": 3303.44, "end": 3310.2400000000002, "text": " If you're not familiar, the guy who created XMPP and Jabber, the guy who created Google" }, { "start": 3310.24, "end": 3316.9199999999996, "text": " Voice apparently have the same bug up their ass that I do, which is I'm tired of iMessage" }, { "start": 3316.9199999999996, "end": 3321.9199999999996, "text": " and Hangouts and WhatsApp and Kik and whatever else." }, { "start": 3321.9199999999996, "end": 3327.52, "text": " They're trying to create a universal messaging protocol and they're going to let anybody" }, { "start": 3327.52, "end": 3331, "text": " who wants to embed it into their app so you can add messaging to your app." }, { "start": 3331, "end": 3335.3999999999996, "text": " That's like the candy for developers." }, { "start": 3335.4, "end": 3340.8, "text": " The vegetables are, if they can get enough adoption of it, maybe they can replace or" }, { "start": 3340.8, "end": 3345.64, "text": " get other people to plug into that, we can actually have interoperability again." }, { "start": 3345.64, "end": 3349.32, "text": " It's a beautiful, beautiful, totally going to fail impossible dream." }, { "start": 3349.32, "end": 3353.2000000000003, "text": " You realize that Vlad interpreted what you just said the opposite of the way you intended." }, { "start": 3353.2000000000003, "end": 3356.12, "text": " He likes the vegetables and not the candy." }, { "start": 3356.12, "end": 3364.1600000000003, "text": " I was experiencing a bit of confusion, yes." }, { "start": 3364.16, "end": 3366.8399999999997, "text": " Everything on paper here sounds pretty good." }, { "start": 3366.8399999999997, "end": 3372.7599999999998, "text": " They're not going through the standards bodies because they're all completely seized up and" }, { "start": 3372.7599999999998, "end": 3380.68, "text": " unable to move a standard forward because they have no power and there's too much politics." }, { "start": 3380.68, "end": 3388.8399999999997, "text": " It's being put together, the protocol and the spec for it by people who understood XMPP" }, { "start": 3388.84, "end": 3393.94, "text": " and made that moderately successful in its time and know what the problems were with" }, { "start": 3393.94, "end": 3400.7200000000003, "text": " it and are fixing them." }, { "start": 3400.7200000000003, "end": 3403.52, "text": " I just have no faith that it's going to work." }, { "start": 3403.52, "end": 3408.56, "text": " The big hurdle that they have is developers adopting this and baking it into their apps," }, { "start": 3408.56, "end": 3409.56, "text": " right?" }, { "start": 3409.56, "end": 3411.96, "text": " We already have WhatsApp." }, { "start": 3411.96, "end": 3415.28, "text": " You could build a WhatsApp competitor in a weekend is the idea." }, { "start": 3415.28, "end": 3419.32, "text": " Or you could write an email app and be like, you know, I'd like to add messaging to this" }, { "start": 3419.32, "end": 3422.6000000000004, "text": " plunk and you've added messaging to it pretty easily." }, { "start": 3422.6000000000004, "end": 3426.0400000000004, "text": " Then it will talk to all of those other apps." }, { "start": 3426.0400000000004, "end": 3432.88, "text": " It's possible we could see a snowball effect here, but one, they actually have to execute" }, { "start": 3432.88, "end": 3433.88, "text": " on their plans." }, { "start": 3433.88, "end": 3437.28, "text": " They haven't released anything yet." }, { "start": 3437.28, "end": 3442.88, "text": " And two, we need to actually see if people will adopt it in a meaningful way." }, { "start": 3442.88, "end": 3447.12, "text": " And critically, none of the incumbents are obviously going to adopt it." }, { "start": 3447.12, "end": 3451.92, "text": " Yeah, so the question is not only does this have to take off, but it has to take off in" }, { "start": 3451.92, "end": 3458.2000000000003, "text": " such a way that it becomes inevitable and we will start yelling at Apple and Google" }, { "start": 3458.2000000000003, "end": 3461.4, "text": " and Microsoft for not interoperating with it." }, { "start": 3461.4, "end": 3463.52, "text": " FaceTime is going to be an open standard." }, { "start": 3463.52, "end": 3464.52, "text": " Dude." }, { "start": 3464.52, "end": 3470.28, "text": " But I mean, think about a player like WhatsApp, which controls an enormous percentage of the" }, { "start": 3470.28, "end": 3474.1600000000003, "text": " app, if they got to the point where there was pressure on them to adopt this, they would" }, { "start": 3474.1600000000003, "end": 3477.76, "text": " literally no longer have a business model." }, { "start": 3477.76, "end": 3481.28, "text": " So they won't ever." }, { "start": 3481.28, "end": 3484.1000000000004, "text": " So we're still screwed." }, { "start": 3484.1000000000004, "end": 3487.4, "text": " This problem is never going to be fixed." }, { "start": 3487.4, "end": 3491.44, "text": " Look, tell me how it's going to be fixed, Vlad." }, { "start": 3491.44, "end": 3493.2400000000002, "text": " It's going to be fixed by what?" }, { "start": 3493.2400000000002, "end": 3494.2400000000002, "text": " How?" }, { "start": 3494.2400000000002, "end": 3496.0400000000004, "text": " Like, an open spec gets created?" }, { "start": 3496.0400000000004, "end": 3499.6200000000003, "text": " Like we're going to have a new spec for messaging interoperability." }, { "start": 3499.62, "end": 3503.8399999999997, "text": " It's coming out this summer from these guys from Lair, from the dude who invented XMPP." }, { "start": 3503.8399999999997, "end": 3505.16, "text": " He's putting it out there." }, { "start": 3505.16, "end": 3506.16, "text": " An open spec." }, { "start": 3506.16, "end": 3511.56, "text": " And it's like we just talked amongst ourselves and decided it's not going to get fixed." }, { "start": 3511.56, "end": 3514.3199999999997, "text": " So then how will it get fixed?" }, { "start": 3514.3199999999997, "end": 3519.56, "text": " Maybe Microsoft will win with Skype or Apple will win with iMessage or Google will win" }, { "start": 3519.56, "end": 3520.56, "text": " with Hangouts." }, { "start": 3520.56, "end": 3525.6, "text": " Like, okay, that makes things slightly better because at least we can all talk to each other," }, { "start": 3525.6, "end": 3530.68, "text": " but it's through this protocol that is controlled by a single company." }, { "start": 3530.68, "end": 3536.7599999999998, "text": " And depending on the company, it is accessible to the NSA." }, { "start": 3536.7599999999998, "end": 3537.7599999999998, "text": " There are problems here." }, { "start": 3537.7599999999998, "end": 3542.16, "text": " And none of those examples that you gave really offer everything that you'd want in a chat" }, { "start": 3542.16, "end": 3543.16, "text": " protocol." }, { "start": 3543.16, "end": 3548.48, "text": " And they don't need to for whatever reasons, for their own personal reasons, even if you" }, { "start": 3548.48, "end": 3549.48, "text": " want them there." }, { "start": 3549.48, "end": 3554.56, "text": " So like, you use Google Hangouts for its specific reasons, use Skype for its specific reasons," }, { "start": 3554.56, "end": 3557.24, "text": " iMessage is baked into the iPhone, so it's used for those reasons." }, { "start": 3557.24, "end": 3561.16, "text": " But like, in some ways, Hangouts is a lot better than iMessage and Skype is a lot better" }, { "start": 3561.16, "end": 3562.96, "text": " than Hangouts, etc., etc." }, { "start": 3562.96, "end": 3567.7999999999997, "text": " It's just like you're not getting the best of all of the options together." }, { "start": 3567.7999999999997, "end": 3573.32, "text": " Everything that's broken about Hangouts could be fixed by just taking it away from Google+." }, { "start": 3573.32, "end": 3576.7999999999997, "text": " I don't know about that." }, { "start": 3576.7999999999997, "end": 3582.6, "text": " I'm trying to decide if I want to respond or just give Dieter another ramp up line so" }, { "start": 3582.6, "end": 3583.6, "text": " he can keep renting." }, { "start": 3583.6, "end": 3588.92, "text": " No, I mean, I've ranted about this so many times that I don't even have the heart for" }, { "start": 3588.92, "end": 3589.92, "text": " it." }, { "start": 3589.92, "end": 3594.92, "text": " But you like expressed a glimmer of hope that we would have a way to talk to each other" }, { "start": 3594.92, "end": 3596.6, "text": " that wasn't controlled by corporations." }, { "start": 3596.6, "end": 3598.64, "text": " And I wanted to make sure I smashed that down." }, { "start": 3598.64, "end": 3604, "text": " Because I do not want there to be a beautiful little flower growing out of the cracks of" }, { "start": 3604, "end": 3609.16, "text": " the concrete in the desolate wasteland of our messaging future." }, { "start": 3609.16, "end": 3610.4, "text": " Because it's not going to happen." }, { "start": 3610.4, "end": 3613.6800000000003, "text": " Really, the only one that we have right now that even comes close to that is email, which" }, { "start": 3613.6800000000003, "end": 3615.84, "text": " is like so depressing." }, { "start": 3615.84, "end": 3618.64, "text": " Yeah, email is great." }, { "start": 3618.64, "end": 3620.2400000000002, "text": " To be fair, it was the 70s." }, { "start": 3620.2400000000002, "end": 3624.84, "text": " We knew how to build things." }, { "start": 3624.84, "end": 3633.48, "text": " What I expressed was like the hint of a glimmer of a distant shimmer of hope in somebody's" }, { "start": 3633.48, "end": 3636.36, "text": " twinkling eye." }, { "start": 3636.36, "end": 3637.92, "text": " I wanted to burn that to the ground." }, { "start": 3637.92, "end": 3639.92, "text": " But here's the point." }, { "start": 3639.92, "end": 3646.4, "text": " I feel like this is an issue which we can solve on an individual basis." }, { "start": 3646.4, "end": 3655.76, "text": " So you and your friends, your actual friends can just decide you like using Hangouts, use" }, { "start": 3655.76, "end": 3656.76, "text": " Hangouts." }, { "start": 3656.76, "end": 3658.84, "text": " You know, coordinate a little bit." }, { "start": 3658.84, "end": 3665.08, "text": " Do a little bit of actual social, well engineering is kind of a terrible word." }, { "start": 3665.08, "end": 3666.56, "text": " It has bad associations." }, { "start": 3666.56, "end": 3668.92, "text": " But yeah, engineer your social circle." }, { "start": 3668.92, "end": 3669.92, "text": " Do that." }, { "start": 3669.92, "end": 3674.4, "text": " The problem is while you're going out to engineer your social circle to get everybody to standardize" }, { "start": 3674.4, "end": 3680.44, "text": " on Hangouts, somebody else is doing that for iMessage and WhatsApp is spending money to" }, { "start": 3680.44, "end": 3681.44, "text": " promote WhatsApp." }, { "start": 3681.44, "end": 3684.44, "text": " And I don't know, man." }, { "start": 3684.44, "end": 3685.44, "text": " No, sure." }, { "start": 3685.44, "end": 3686.44, "text": " But okay, come on." }, { "start": 3686.44, "end": 3689.52, "text": " You can still tolerate a couple of messaging apps on your device." }, { "start": 3689.52, "end": 3691.64, "text": " I just feel like this is an issue which..." }, { "start": 3691.64, "end": 3693.92, "text": " No, I cannot tolerate a couple of messaging apps on my device." }, { "start": 3693.92, "end": 3698.16, "text": " If I want to send you a message, I want to think about you, Vlad." }, { "start": 3698.16, "end": 3701.72, "text": " The handsome, handsome man that I want to type something at." }, { "start": 3701.72, "end": 3705.2799999999997, "text": " I don't want to think about what messaging app does that handsome man use." }, { "start": 3705.2799999999997, "end": 3709.6, "text": " I want to picture your face, not an icon." }, { "start": 3709.6, "end": 3712.16, "text": " Because it's a pretty face." }, { "start": 3712.16, "end": 3714.7999999999997, "text": " Well, my face is an icon." }, { "start": 3714.7999999999997, "end": 3719.44, "text": " Well, you know what that has become for me is Twitter." }, { "start": 3719.44, "end": 3721.16, "text": " Because I know everybody's Twitter handle." }, { "start": 3721.16, "end": 3722.3599999999997, "text": " That's a very good point." }, { "start": 3722.3599999999997, "end": 3724.24, "text": " And I know that I can get a hold of them by DM." }, { "start": 3724.24, "end": 3726.08, "text": " Are you the guy that app messages people?" }, { "start": 3726.08, "end": 3727.08, "text": " Oh, DM." }, { "start": 3727.08, "end": 3730.2, "text": " But if they don't follow you, you're hooped." }, { "start": 3730.2, "end": 3732.2799999999997, "text": " I only talk to people that I follow." }, { "start": 3732.2799999999997, "end": 3733.84, "text": " Who follow you back." }, { "start": 3733.84, "end": 3735.92, "text": " And follow me back." }, { "start": 3735.92, "end": 3738.7599999999998, "text": " And I only read the verified list." }, { "start": 3738.7599999999998, "end": 3739.7599999999998, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3739.7599999999998, "end": 3742.08, "text": " So can you talk to the FCC for us?" }, { "start": 3742.08, "end": 3743.08, "text": " I can." }, { "start": 3743.08, "end": 3745.84, "text": " I can DM the FCC right now." }, { "start": 3745.84, "end": 3747.72, "text": " Get my boy Wheeler on the line." }, { "start": 3747.72, "end": 3749.72, "text": " Wheels, I call him." }, { "start": 3749.72, "end": 3756.36, "text": " And this is where the FCC unfollows." }, { "start": 3756.36, "end": 3761.52, "text": " If anybody wants to communicate with Mercedes Benz USA, I can get you in there." }, { "start": 3761.52, "end": 3764.52, "text": " Anybody interested in talking to Chili's restaurant?" }, { "start": 3764.52, "end": 3766.32, "text": " You talk about Chili's?" }, { "start": 3766.32, "end": 3767.32, "text": " Let me know." }, { "start": 3767.32, "end": 3768.32, "text": " Damn, really?" }, { "start": 3768.32, "end": 3770.88, "text": " That's a good hookup right there." }, { "start": 3770.88, "end": 3771.88, "text": " That's at least one thought." }, { "start": 3771.88, "end": 3773.6, "text": " So I just have to share how this happened." }, { "start": 3773.6, "end": 3774.6, "text": " Because it's really funny." }, { "start": 3774.6, "end": 3779.5, "text": " One of our video producers, Jordan Oblinger, I don't know if he's trolling or if he legitimately" }, { "start": 3779.5, "end": 3780.7200000000003, "text": " loves Chili's." }, { "start": 3780.7200000000003, "end": 3785.1600000000003, "text": " But he checks in at various Chili's across the country on Foursquare all the time." }, { "start": 3785.16, "end": 3786.7599999999998, "text": " And I favorited one." }, { "start": 3786.7599999999998, "end": 3790.52, "text": " And then like 20 minutes later, Chili's follows." }, { "start": 3790.52, "end": 3791.52, "text": " That's amazing." }, { "start": 3791.52, "end": 3796.92, "text": " I don't know who my most influential follower is." }, { "start": 3796.92, "end": 3797.92, "text": " I have no idea." }, { "start": 3797.92, "end": 3800.24, "text": " President Barack Obama?" }, { "start": 3800.24, "end": 3804.2, "text": " It's probably Z-Power." }, { "start": 3804.2, "end": 3805.2, "text": " For me it's Wheels." }, { "start": 3805.2, "end": 3806.2, "text": " Is it Wheels?" }, { "start": 3806.2, "end": 3807.2, "text": " God." }, { "start": 3807.2, "end": 3808.2, "text": " Tommy Wheels." }, { "start": 3808.2, "end": 3814.16, "text": " Ladies and gentlemen, that is Suburge Mobile Show." }, { "start": 3814.16, "end": 3816.92, "text": " No, no, we got to wrap, man." }, { "start": 3816.92, "end": 3817.92, "text": " Two things." }, { "start": 3817.92, "end": 3818.92, "text": " Two very quick things." }, { "start": 3818.92, "end": 3819.92, "text": " No." }, { "start": 3819.92, "end": 3824.24, "text": " On the Cyanogenmob point, I just want to say the 10.2 stable version for the LG G2 got" }, { "start": 3824.24, "end": 3825.24, "text": " released recently." }, { "start": 3825.24, "end": 3826.24, "text": " And it's very nice." }, { "start": 3826.24, "end": 3828, "text": " I've been using the nightly build." }, { "start": 3828, "end": 3829, "text": " It became stable." }, { "start": 3829, "end": 3830.96, "text": " It's been stable for weeks." }, { "start": 3830.96, "end": 3836.16, "text": " Evan Rogers is nodding unknowingly as you say that." }, { "start": 3836.16, "end": 3840.64, "text": " I can't tell if he's nodding that he wants you to finish your two points or if he's nodding" }, { "start": 3840.64, "end": 3841.96, "text": " at me saying no, no, cut them off." }, { "start": 3841.96, "end": 3842.96, "text": " We're ending the show." }, { "start": 3842.96, "end": 3843.96, "text": " I have no idea." }, { "start": 3843.96, "end": 3847.76, "text": " I'm pretty sure he's nodding at the fact that Cyanogenmod is out for the G2." }, { "start": 3847.76, "end": 3850.76, "text": " Well, and it's good." }, { "start": 3850.76, "end": 3851.76, "text": " It's good things." }, { "start": 3851.76, "end": 3852.76, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3852.76, "end": 3854.8, "text": " And second point, 20 seconds." }, { "start": 3854.8, "end": 3859.76, "text": " Qualcomm just announced the Snapdragon 410, which is its first 64-bit processor, which" }, { "start": 3859.76, "end": 3861.2400000000002, "text": " doesn't matter at all." }, { "start": 3861.2400000000002, "end": 3865.48, "text": " But it has LTE and it's targeting sub-$150 phones." }, { "start": 3865.48, "end": 3867.84, "text": " It's primarily for China and emerging markets." }, { "start": 3867.84, "end": 3872.64, "text": " But basically it's the Moto G processor or system on chip with LTE." }, { "start": 3872.64, "end": 3875.2799999999997, "text": " It's coming somewhere around the middle of next year." }, { "start": 3875.2799999999997, "end": 3876.8399999999997, "text": " So good news." }, { "start": 3876.8399999999997, "end": 3882.44, "text": " I mean were you not expecting there to be a Qualcomm chip that was cheap that supported" }, { "start": 3882.44, "end": 3883.44, "text": " LTE next year?" }, { "start": 3883.44, "end": 3885.4, "text": " Is this a shock to you?" }, { "start": 3885.4, "end": 3886.4, "text": " No." }, { "start": 3886.4, "end": 3887.4, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 3887.4, "end": 3890.4, "text": " Oh, dude, it's on the warpath." }, { "start": 3890.4, "end": 3894.4, "text": " Oh, this is a sick burn." }, { "start": 3894.4, "end": 3896.8399999999997, "text": " I'm really sorry." }, { "start": 3896.8399999999997, "end": 3899.12, "text": " That's why it's a tech on at the very end." }, { "start": 3899.12, "end": 3903.08, "text": " I mean, heck, we could talk about all C if you want." }, { "start": 3903.08, "end": 3908.04, "text": " No, but I do want to talk about something related to the Snapdragon 410." }, { "start": 3908.04, "end": 3911.92, "text": " Is Tegra, like does Tegra even matter anymore?" }, { "start": 3911.92, "end": 3912.92, "text": " No." }, { "start": 3912.92, "end": 3916.2, "text": " So it's just Qualcomm at this point." }, { "start": 3916.2, "end": 3922.72, "text": " I can't think of a significant device that has been both like impressive to us and commercially" }, { "start": 3922.72, "end": 3924.48, "text": " successful that runs a Tegra processor." }, { "start": 3924.48, "end": 3927.24, "text": " Yeah, I mean like Qualcomm is the Intel of mobile now." }, { "start": 3927.24, "end": 3928.24, "text": " Like fully." }, { "start": 3928.24, "end": 3929.24, "text": " Oh, Intel of mobile." }, { "start": 3929.24, "end": 3932.16, "text": " I thought you meant like Intel, like the way Intel is a mobile." }, { "start": 3932.16, "end": 3935, "text": " No, Texas Instruments is the Intel of mobile." }, { "start": 3935, "end": 3936.4799999999996, "text": " The Surface 2 runs a Tegra." }, { "start": 3936.4799999999996, "end": 3942.08, "text": " NVIDIA is the Intel of mobile in the way that Intel is successful in mobile." }, { "start": 3942.08, "end": 3943.08, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 3943.08, "end": 3944.08, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 3944.08, "end": 3945.08, "text": " Yes, you got it." }, { "start": 3945.08, "end": 3947.16, "text": " I was just saying the Surface 2 runs Tegra 4." }, { "start": 3947.16, "end": 3949.72, "text": " I can't think of a single phone off the top of my head that runs Tegra 4." }, { "start": 3949.72, "end": 3950.72, "text": " Shield runs Tegra 4." }, { "start": 3950.72, "end": 3951.72, "text": " Shield, not a phone." }, { "start": 3951.72, "end": 3952.72, "text": " Not a phone." }, { "start": 3952.72, "end": 3957.2, "text": " No, but you should be able to taco talk on the, side talk on the Shield." }, { "start": 3957.2, "end": 3963.8799999999997, "text": " Well, in NVIDIA's defense, next year they are going to have an integrated LTE and Tegra" }, { "start": 3963.8799999999997, "end": 3964.8799999999997, "text": " 4 chip." }, { "start": 3964.8799999999997, "end": 3966.9199999999996, "text": " They're only two and a half years late." }, { "start": 3966.9199999999996, "end": 3967.9199999999996, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3967.9199999999996, "end": 3970.4399999999996, "text": " So wait, there won't be a Tegra 5 in 2014?" }, { "start": 3970.4399999999996, "end": 3975.7599999999998, "text": " No, there probably will be, but I'm just saying Tegra 4 and LTE is coming next year." }, { "start": 3975.7599999999998, "end": 3981.8399999999997, "text": " They'll probably have a Tegra 5 without LTE for, you know, how well they're doing." }, { "start": 3981.8399999999997, "end": 3985.2799999999997, "text": " They really got to solve that LTE problem." }, { "start": 3985.2799999999997, "end": 3986.2799999999997, "text": " It's embarrassing." }, { "start": 3986.28, "end": 3987.28, "text": " I'm embarrassed too." }, { "start": 3987.28, "end": 3990.4, "text": " I'm embarrassed for the way this show is just going on." }, { "start": 3990.4, "end": 3992.28, "text": " You want to follow us on Twitter?" }, { "start": 3992.28, "end": 3993.28, "text": " You certainly can." }, { "start": 3993.28, "end": 3994.28, "text": " I'm back on." }, { "start": 3994.28, "end": 3995.28, "text": " This is DC Seifert, Dan." }, { "start": 3995.28, "end": 3996.28, "text": " Chris is zPower." }, { "start": 3996.28, "end": 3998, "text": " Vlad is Vlad Savov." }, { "start": 3998, "end": 4002.8, "text": " We are all at Verge and next week, are we back?" }, { "start": 4002.8, "end": 4003.8, "text": " Probably." }, { "start": 4003.8, "end": 4004.8, "text": " We hope you are too." }, { "start": 4004.8, "end": 4005.8, "text": " Thanks for watching." }, { "start": 4005.8, "end": 4033.84, "text": " Ciao." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 2.5, "text": " It's Tuesday, December 10th, 2013." }, { "start": 2.5, "end": 8.5, "text": " I'm Thomas Ricker, and this is 90 Seconds on the Verge." }, { "start": 8.5, "end": 12.700000000000001, "text": " General Motors will name Mary Barra as its chief executive officer next year, replacing" }, { "start": 12.700000000000001, "end": 16.5, "text": " current CEO Dan Akerson, who has held the position since 2010." }, { "start": 16.5, "end": 20.240000000000002, "text": " This makes her the first female CEO throughout the global auto industry." }, { "start": 20.240000000000002, "end": 23.82, "text": " According to Fortune, Barra's directive to employees since starting the position has" }, { "start": 23.82, "end": 26.46, "text": " been, quote, no more crappy cars." }, { "start": 26.46, "end": 27.7, "text": " Well said." }, { "start": 27.7, "end": 30.759999999999998, "text": " High speed, green energy, and Leo." }, { "start": 30.759999999999998, "end": 32.8, "text": " I know, it sounds too good to be true." }, { "start": 32.8, "end": 37.8, "text": " Actor Leonardo DiCaprio is joining Venturi Automobiles on Venturi Grand Prix, the tenth" }, { "start": 37.8, "end": 42.16, "text": " and final team to announce its participation in the inaugural season of Formula E Racing," }, { "start": 42.16, "end": 44.56, "text": " the all-electronic clean energy competition." }, { "start": 44.56, "end": 47.2, "text": " The first ever race will take place in September of next year." }, { "start": 47.2, "end": 51.480000000000004, "text": " It'll be just like NASCAR, but with less Budweiser and more kale juice." }, { "start": 51.480000000000004, "end": 56.16, "text": " And finally, Johnny Cash may have died more than a decade ago, but why should that stop" }, { "start": 56.16, "end": 57.519999999999996, "text": " him from releasing a new album?" }, { "start": 57.52, "end": 62.800000000000004, "text": " Out Amongst the Stars, a 12-track album recorded between 1981 and 1984, will be released on" }, { "start": 62.800000000000004, "end": 64.84, "text": " March 25th of next year." }, { "start": 64.84, "end": 70.36, "text": " Johnny Cash's son, John Carter Cash, and archivist at Legacy Recordings, came upon the tapes" }, { "start": 70.36, "end": 73.84, "text": " last year in a massive personal archive of the late musician." }, { "start": 73.84, "end": 77.64, "text": " The new album features a duet with Waylon Jennings and two featuring his wife, June" }, { "start": 77.64, "end": 79.16, "text": " Carter Cash." }, { "start": 79.16, "end": 82.24000000000001, "text": " Also on the album, Johnny Cash's cover of Wrecking Ball." }, { "start": 82.24000000000001, "end": 84, "text": " And that's it for today's top stories." }, { "start": 84, "end": 87.76, "text": " Coming up tomorrow, we check out the latest Jack Sparrow film, Pirates of the Caribbean 8," }, { "start": 87.76, "end": 114.76, "text": " Pirate Bay Island." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 2, "text": " It's Monday, December 9th, 2013." }, { "start": 2, "end": 6, "text": " I'm Addy Robertson, and if you love SpaghettiO's tweet about Pearl Harbor," }, { "start": 6, "end": 8, "text": " just wait till you see what they have planned for Easter." }, { "start": 8, "end": 10, "text": " This is 90 Seconds on the Verge." }, { "start": 10, "end": 13, "text": " Watch out, Apple TV. Google is rumored to be working on its own set-top box." }, { "start": 13, "end": 17, "text": " The device is said to run Android, stream videos from services like Netflix and Hulu," }, { "start": 17, "end": 19, "text": " and even play some video games." }, { "start": 19, "end": 23, "text": " While Google already has the $35 Chromecast, which streams a few services," }, { "start": 23, "end": 27, "text": " a Nexus set-top box running Android would be in a totally different category." }, { "start": 27, "end": 30, "text": " Sometimes you just can't trust a level 37 Blood Elf death knight." }, { "start": 30, "end": 32, "text": " According to new documents leaked by Edward Snowden," }, { "start": 32, "end": 37, "text": " spies from multiple American and British agencies created World of Warcraft characters to snoop on gamers." }, { "start": 37, "end": 39, "text": " It was big enough that a quote," }, { "start": 39, "end": 42, "text": " deconfliction group was set up to avoid agents spying on one another." }, { "start": 42, "end": 46, "text": " All this comes as Apple, Google, Microsoft, and others launch a national campaign today," }, { "start": 46, "end": 47, "text": " pushing for NSA reform." }, { "start": 47, "end": 49, "text": " Finally, something they can all agree on." }, { "start": 49, "end": 54, "text": " The 2008 document predates the iPhone app store and the prolific rise of smartphone games." }, { "start": 54, "end": 58, "text": " So keep that in mind next time you receive Snapchats from TotallyNotASpy83." }, { "start": 58, "end": 63, "text": " And finally, it looks like Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull will not be Indie's last adventure." }, { "start": 63, "end": 64, "text": " Thank God." }, { "start": 64, "end": 69, "text": " Disney and Paramount have struck a deal that will give both distribution and marketing rights of any new films to Disney," }, { "start": 69, "end": 72, "text": " while Paramount will retain rights to the first four Indiana Jones movies." }, { "start": 72, "end": 75, "text": " There's still no word yet on if a fifth movie is in the works," }, { "start": 75, "end": 79, "text": " but Disney has been more than eager to take advantage of Lucasfilm's top property." }, { "start": 79, "end": 81, "text": " And here's to hoping they don't nuke the fridge in the next film." }, { "start": 81, "end": 83, "text": " And that's it for today's top stories." }, { "start": 83, "end": 86, "text": " Coming up tomorrow, radioactive wrapping paper." }, { "start": 86, "end": 113, "text": " See how you can make your child a superhero this Christmas." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 4.92, "text": " It's Friday, December 6th, 2013. I'm Ross Miller, and if I could control the weather," }, { "start": 4.92, "end": 8.36, "text": " it'd always be 75 degrees and snowing. Think about it." }, { "start": 8.36, "end": 9.96, "text": " This is 90 seconds on the verge." }, { "start": 9.96, "end": 15.08, "text": " South African civil rights icon Nelson Mandela has died at the age of 95. Mandela dedicated" }, { "start": 15.08, "end": 19.48, "text": " his life to fighting an apartheid government. He became South Africa's first black president" }, { "start": 19.48, "end": 21.16, "text": " in 1994." }, { "start": 21.16, "end": 25.12, "text": " Over the last 24 hours, leaders from across the world have paid tribute to Mandela. A" }, { "start": 25.12, "end": 28.28, "text": " state funeral is scheduled to take place Sunday, December 15th." }, { "start": 28.28, "end": 32, "text": " In other news, like your Nexus 5, but having issues with the camera? You might want to" }, { "start": 32, "end": 33.28, "text": " check for updates." }, { "start": 33.28, "end": 38.56, "text": " Google has released the Android 4.4.1 update that brings dramatic improvements to the Nexus" }, { "start": 38.56, "end": 43.92, "text": " 5's camera, including faster focusing, better low light, and less shutter lag. We've tested" }, { "start": 43.92, "end": 46.120000000000005, "text": " it ourselves and came away rather impressed." }, { "start": 46.120000000000005, "end": 49.52, "text": " There's still plenty of work to be done, of course. Android's director of engineering" }, { "start": 49.52, "end": 52.260000000000005, "text": " Dave Burke promises it'll continue to get better." }, { "start": 52.260000000000005, "end": 56.36, "text": " And finally, X-Men Days of Future Past may not be hitting theaters until May. That isn't" }, { "start": 56.36, "end": 59.86, "text": " stopping director Bryan Singer from teasing the next entry in the series." }, { "start": 59.86, "end": 63.96, "text": " On Twitter Thursday, Singer announced the new superhero film, called X-Men Apocalypse," }, { "start": 63.96, "end": 67.72, "text": " will be coming to theaters in 2016. While it hasn't been immediately confirmed that" }, { "start": 67.72, "end": 71.32, "text": " Singer himself will be helming the picture, the fact that the director was the one to" }, { "start": 71.32, "end": 73.36, "text": " break the news is a very good sign." }, { "start": 73.36, "end": 77.4, "text": " But I swear, if Brett Reiner gets anywhere near this film, I'm gonna go Phoenix on his" }, { "start": 77.4, "end": 78.4, "text": " ass." }, { "start": 78.4, "end": 82.12, "text": " That's it for today's top stories, but coming up tomorrow, I test out the new Verge Beacon." }, { "start": 82.12, "end": 87.12, "text": " It tells me whenever Nathan Sykrates around." } ]

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supposedly more comfortable to hold against your face, more immersive for watching movies," }, { "start": 29.88, "end": 33.44, "text": " and less reflective because of the angle light bounces off the screen." }, { "start": 33.44, "end": 37.72, "text": " It does seem to be ever so slightly less reflective, but by and large there's really no practical" }, { "start": 37.72, "end": 40.66, "text": " improvement or even change with a screen like this." }, { "start": 40.66, "end": 44.26, "text": " You can tilt the phone and see the wallpaper move, although that's really awkward and laggy," }, { "start": 44.26, "end": 47.480000000000004, "text": " and there's a cool motion for unlocking the phone straight to one of a handful of media" }, { "start": 47.480000000000004, "end": 48.480000000000004, "text": " apps." }, { "start": 48.480000000000004, "end": 50.76, "text": " But those really have nothing to do with the curved screen." }, { "start": 50.76, "end": 52.3, "text": " The screen doesn't 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"end": 80.04, "text": " The screen's only noteworthy feature is that it bends, and it's otherwise fairly ordinary." }, { "start": 80.04, "end": 84.04, "text": " It's a 720p display, which looks good, but can be a little pixelated and jagged at such" }, { "start": 84.04, "end": 87.36, "text": " a large size, and it's an OLED instead of a more standard LCD." }, { "start": 87.36, "end": 91.32, "text": " And it has great colors and good viewing angles, but it's just not as stunning as some other" }, { "start": 91.32, "end": 92.92, "text": " smartphones I've seen." }, { "start": 92.92, "end": 97.28, "text": " It's all very futuristic, using a phone with a flexible screen that supposedly heals itself." }, { "start": 97.28, "end": 101.46, "text": " But since none of it really comes into play, what you're essentially using is LG's G2." }, { "start": 101.46, "end": 106.96000000000001, "text": " The G Flex has the same Snapdragon 800 processor, the same 2 gigs of RAM, the same 13 megapixel" }, { 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are really useful, and most are just pretty inoffensive." }, { "start": 135.68, "end": 140.68, "text": " I hate LG's skin of Android 4.2.2, though, from the rows of toolbars that take up half" }, { "start": 140.68, "end": 145.34, "text": " the screen in the notification pull-down, to the ugly redesigned system and app icons." }, { "start": 145.34, "end": 147.76, "text": " Everything LG touches here just gets worse." }, { "start": 147.76, "end": 151.32, "text": " The slide-aside apps are a cool idea, letting you store frequently used apps off to the" }, { "start": 151.32, "end": 153.76, "text": " side of the screen, but they don't work very well." }, { "start": 153.76, "end": 158.12, "text": " Neither do the overlaid Q apps, which show up over top of whatever you're doing otherwise." }, { "start": 158.12, "end": 162.36, "text": " And why, dear lord, why is the Vienna Boys Choir singing my ringtone?" }, { "start": 162.36, "end": 166.32, "text": " But where the G2's heritage lets the G 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191.08, "end": 194.28, "text": " placed on the back of the device, rather than the sides or the top, but it's actually a" }, { "start": 194.28, "end": 198.28, "text": " clever spot for them to be, right where your index finger goes when you hold the phone." }, { "start": 198.28, "end": 201.26000000000002, "text": " The only problem is that the buttons are right next to the camera lens, which I keep hitting" }, { "start": 201.26000000000002, "end": 202.26000000000002, "text": " by accident." }, { "start": 202.26, "end": 205.35999999999999, "text": " I wind up constantly cleaning the lens to get my fingerprints off." }, { "start": 205.35999999999999, "end": 209.35999999999999, "text": " One of the best things about having a huge phone is that it can have a huge battery inside." }, { "start": 209.35999999999999, "end": 210.35999999999999, "text": " And the G Flex does." }, { "start": 210.35999999999999, "end": 213.44, "text": " It's one of the longer-lasting phones we've tested, and can 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just a tech demo, a toe in the water, a proof of concept that LG can make" }, { "start": 240.4, "end": 242.04000000000002, "text": " a phone with a curved display." }, { "start": 242.04, "end": 261.03999999999996, "text": " Maybe next time, it'll show us why a curved display is a good idea in the first place." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 2.72, "text": " It's Thursday, December 5th, 2013." }, { "start": 2.72, "end": 7, "text": " I'm Sam Sheffer, and if you'd like to hire me for your next corporate event or bar mitzvah," }, { "start": 7, "end": 9.92, "text": " I will accept no less than.082 Bitcoins." }, { "start": 9.92, "end": 11.76, "text": " This is 90 seconds on the verge." }, { "start": 11.76, "end": 16.080000000000002, "text": " Twitter has named Marjorie Scardino as the first female member of its board." }, { "start": 16.080000000000002, "end": 19.76, "text": " Previously, Scardino spent 15 years as CEO of Pearson," }, { "start": 19.76, "end": 22.88, "text": " one of the largest multinational book publishers in the world." }, { "start": 22.88, "end": 27.12, "text": " This move addresses growing accusations of sexism regarding Twitter's leadership." }, { "start": 27.12, "end": 31.240000000000002, "text": " As of this time, Scardino is still waiting for her account to be verified." }, { "start": 31.240000000000002, "end": 34.4, "text": " China will not be welcoming Bitcoin into its banks." }, { "start": 34.4, "end": 38.64, "text": " Chinese regulators have banned financial institutions from using the virtual currency," }, { "start": 38.64, "end": 42.2, "text": " warning that it could be used for illegal activities and speculation." }, { "start": 42.2, "end": 46.040000000000006, "text": " Individuals are still free to use Bitcoin in China, albeit at their own risk." }, { "start": 46.040000000000006, "end": 49.84, "text": " Meanwhile, Bank of America today said Bitcoin could become a major means of payment," }, { "start": 49.84, "end": 54.2, "text": " but for now, it is still plagued by price volatility and questionable legal status." }, { "start": 54.2, "end": 58.24, "text": " And finally, tired of the whole talking with waiters and giving them money thing," }, { "start": 58.24, "end": 59.88, "text": " Applebee's is here to help." }, { "start": 59.88, "end": 65.12, "text": " The restaurant chain is installing 100,000 Presto tablets to its table and bar areas," }, { "start": 65.12, "end": 70.04, "text": " allowing customers to order food and pay the bill with as little human contact as possible." }, { "start": 70.04, "end": 75.4, "text": " These devices are going out to 1,800 Applebee's locations in the U.S. by the end of 2014." }, { "start": 75.4, "end": 77.08, "text": " This comes as rough news for my grandma," }, { "start": 77.08, "end": 80.44, "text": " who will no longer be able to complain about the waiter's exposed tattoos." }, { "start": 80.44, "end": 82.16, "text": " And that's it for today's top stories." }, { "start": 82.16, "end": 86.88, "text": " Coming up tomorrow, I test out the latest valve controller for your ears." }, { "start": 86.88, "end": 112.88, "text": " Am I winning?" } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 7, "text": " Hey you." }, { "start": 7, "end": 16, "text": " What is this plan behind me?" }, { "start": 16, "end": 19, "text": " It's like a matching background." }, { "start": 19, "end": 31, "text": " What is going on with this?" }, { "start": 31, "end": 32, "text": " Oh man, extreme." }, { "start": 32, "end": 36, "text": " Hey, and welcome to the verge cast for the week of week." }, { "start": 36, "end": 37, "text": " Is it?" }, { "start": 37, "end": 40, "text": " It's the second week of December 2013." }, { "start": 40, "end": 41, "text": " I'm Josh to Polsky." }, { "start": 41, "end": 42, "text": " I'm Paul Miller." }, { "start": 42, "end": 43, "text": " I'm new like the tell." }, { "start": 43, "end": 47, "text": " And we have going to be a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit" }, { "start": 47, "end": 58, "text": " yourself and we have droneder ben popper droneder drone editor dronedexpert" }, { "start": 58, "end": 61, "text": " drone the second generation." }, { "start": 61, "end": 66, "text": " This is the Virch cast." }, { "start": 66, "end": 59.64, "text": " We're" }, { "start": 59.64, "end": 73.12, "text": " doing the self" }, { "start": 73.12, "end": 74.12, "text": " It's self-fulfilling." }, { "start": 74.12, "end": 80.12, "text": " Virgcast. Virgcast. It's a self-affiliate. I don't know man, I feel like buttoned up is the way to go here." }, { "start": 80.12, "end": 87.12, "text": " Don't do it. Don't do it. You're doing the thing, it's like, you know when you like hug a baby and you want it to shut up, you just squeeze it a little bit tighter?" }, { "start": 87.12, "end": 93.12, "text": " How about this right there? No, now you look like a sexual predator. Oh really? I don't look like Batman?" }, { "start": 93.12, "end": 99.12, "text": " I mean you look like Batman in a certain type of movie. Sexy Batman. Sex Batman." }, { "start": 99.12, "end": 104.12, "text": " Alright, enough of this nonsense. Let's get into it. We don't have a lot of time because we've got to catch a train. We do." }, { "start": 104.12, "end": 109.12, "text": " Catch a train. Because it's the future. Because it's the time to get on a steam engine in the future." }, { "start": 109.12, "end": 116.12, "text": " Alright. A super laser engine. Can we just talk about the only thing that happened in the news? There's exactly one thing that happened in the news." }, { "start": 116.12, "end": 124.12, "text": " O'Neill, tell us what happened in the news this week. 60 Minutes aired a 14 minute Amazon commercial. That's not the only thing that happened." }, { "start": 124.12, "end": 137.12, "text": " And I have many many thoughts, but the main piece of it was at the end, Jeff Bezos opened a door and Charlie Rose walked into a room and went, oh my god!" }, { "start": 137.12, "end": 146.12, "text": " Oh my gosh! And there were drones. Amazon Prime. Look at him! What? He's like, I'm being taken for a ride and I know it, I love it." }, { "start": 146.12, "end": 151.12, "text": " That was the first time Charlie Rose has felt sober in several years." }, { "start": 151.12, "end": 155.12, "text": " Charlie Rose lived outside of the black room." }, { "start": 155.12, "end": 158.12, "text": " If you just walk behind those curtains into another black room with a bed in it." }, { "start": 158.12, "end": 163.12, "text": " I mean every single piece of what we're seeing right now is a lie, first of all." }, { "start": 163.12, "end": 171.12, "text": " No, no, no, no. Shut up. Can we talk about the news? So Jeff Bezos announced on 60 Minutes." }, { "start": 171.12, "end": 177.12, "text": " I mean come on! Look at this video! This guy's like, alrighty. This guy's like, thanks for this yellow box. I'm just going to take it to my house and open robots." }, { "start": 177.12, "end": 183.12, "text": " You can't put a lot in there. How does the yellow box get back?" }, { "start": 183.12, "end": 195.12, "text": " Okay, hold on. Let's not worry about details. Jeff Bezos announced on 60 Minutes that in 2015 they were going to begin a drone and air delivery system using unmanned aerial vehicles, otherwise known as drones." }, { "start": 195.12, "end": 201.12, "text": " They'll be dropping products within 30 minutes to certain people in certain places." }, { "start": 201.12, "end": 202.12, "text": " Five pounds or less." }, { "start": 202.12, "end": 204.12, "text": " Five pounds or less. So if you need this thing for your skateboard." }, { "start": 204.12, "end": 211.12, "text": " In response to this announcement, noted journalist Charlie Rose asked no follow up questions." }, { "start": 211.12, "end": 212.12, "text": " He was like, that's cool." }, { "start": 212.12, "end": 216.12, "text": " He's like, oh my god, the future. It really is Santa's workshop, everybody." }, { "start": 216.12, "end": 222.12, "text": " Right? This is like a brilliant Black Friday promotion for Amazon because all everybody could talk about Monday was Amazon." }, { "start": 222.12, "end": 228.12, "text": " I would say it's not vaporware and that drones could do this. It's vaporware and that this is totally illegal." }, { "start": 228.12, "end": 231.12, "text": " And the technology to do this safely. They obviously can." }, { "start": 231.12, "end": 238.12, "text": " They can't do it safely, right? If you said like if you dropped a pin on your Apple thing, you know, on your phone being like, I'm here, this is my GPS coordinate." }, { "start": 238.12, "end": 241.12, "text": " It could fly into the air, fly to your house and fly down. It could do that right now." }, { "start": 241.12, "end": 242.12, "text": " It could do it." }, { "start": 242.12, "end": 248.12, "text": " But it couldn't get out of the way if the pigeon was there or know if you had a kid in the driveway or, you know, like do like it." }, { "start": 248.12, "end": 251.12, "text": " As far as it or even necessarily make it there from far away." }, { "start": 251.12, "end": 256.12, "text": " I love the kid in the driveway scenario. You're saying the drone would drop the thing onto the child and kill it or." }, { "start": 256.12, "end": 259.12, "text": " Right. It would only know I'm at point A and I need to go to point B." }, { "start": 259.12, "end": 263.12, "text": " But Jeff Bezos says that by 2015 he'll have cleared all the all the." }, { "start": 263.12, "end": 266.12, "text": " I mean, just look at this video. It feels right to me. It feels totally right to me." }, { "start": 266.12, "end": 269.12, "text": " And then the guy comes out. He's like, yes, my drone is here." }, { "start": 269.12, "end": 271.12, "text": " Stay in the home until the drone is gone." }, { "start": 271.12, "end": 273.12, "text": " Can I say something?" }, { "start": 273.12, "end": 276.12, "text": " Oh my God, the drone is gone. I can finally play again." }, { "start": 276.12, "end": 282.12, "text": " I just want to say something. I know it's gonna be tough with this crew, but you know, look, we have cars driving down the road right now." }, { "start": 282.12, "end": 286.12, "text": " Kids playing ball. There's all sorts of obstacles. There's things, danger they have to watch for." }, { "start": 286.12, "end": 294.12, "text": " You know, we have let's just add another danger. I'm just saying that, you know, at some point in time, people were like cars or you're going to kill people immediately." }, { "start": 294.12, "end": 296.12, "text": " As soon as you get behind the wheel, things are going to blow up and you're going to run people over." }, { "start": 296.12, "end": 301.12, "text": " That'll be the end of it. And you know what? Like you learn humans couldn't go faster than 25 miles per hour." }, { "start": 301.12, "end": 305.12, "text": " They learn flying in a plane. They said it couldn't be done. It's dangerous. You'll never make it." }, { "start": 305.12, "end": 311.12, "text": " I mean, we all the time we do things that seem impossible and weird and like they'll never happen." }, { "start": 311.12, "end": 321.12, "text": " But no one's questioning whether or not drones are existing or whether they will happen or whether they'll even necessarily be used in this way." }, { "start": 321.12, "end": 323.12, "text": " We're not questioning. I'm not questioning that either." }, { "start": 323.12, "end": 329.12, "text": " What I'm questioning is that 60 Minutes completely uncritically went to Amazon's like facility." }, { "start": 329.12, "end": 333.12, "text": " Well, our job is not to repart with some media. I don't want to do media." }, { "start": 333.12, "end": 341.12, "text": " I don't want to do. But this Amazon one in particular is like it's so far away from reality." }, { "start": 341.12, "end": 344.12, "text": " It's apparently only two years away from. Yeah, I don't think it's so far away." }, { "start": 344.12, "end": 348.12, "text": " I mean, I think it's interesting that there's like kind of this arms race now where it's like we're going to do driverless cars in 10 years." }, { "start": 348.12, "end": 354.12, "text": " So it's like, OK, we'll do drones in one year. And it's like you announce things and tell people right off the bat, like we can't make this happen yet." }, { "start": 354.12, "end": 361.12, "text": " But get excited now. You know, it's like you want people to think about your company and innovation and like you may not be able to actually do what you say." }, { "start": 361.12, "end": 367.12, "text": " But it gets people thinking about Amazon in a different way. Right. Is it vaporware? No. Is it? Why isn't it, Ben?" }, { "start": 367.12, "end": 373.12, "text": " Well, it's not vaporware in that I think a drone, like I said, could do this. It just couldn't do it safely or." }, { "start": 373.12, "end": 378.12, "text": " All products and the things they're not selling, the drug they're not selling. He's not selling drone technology." }, { "start": 378.12, "end": 384.12, "text": " He's selling the specific thing that will allow Amazon to send a drone to your house with a package, drop it off and then return to the warehouse." }, { "start": 384.12, "end": 392.12, "text": " So it is vaporware at this moment in that sense and that that he can't do that, even if he had all of the technology in place and it worked flawlessly." }, { "start": 392.12, "end": 396.12, "text": " I mean, the way Amazon is built right now, I couldn't do it right. The warehouses are far away." }, { "start": 396.12, "end": 403.12, "text": " I mean, there's no actual way to execute on that today, not just because of the laws and the safety." }, { "start": 403.12, "end": 410.12, "text": " No, that technically they could do it because like we played I play with drones at South by Southwest that can fly. Well, he said 10 miles." }, { "start": 410.12, "end": 418.12, "text": " OK, let's say you could send a drone several miles from one site to another. Given two GPS coordinates, it could take off, land, drop something and come back." }, { "start": 418.12, "end": 422.12, "text": " Right. But obviously, right. There are lots of things that couldn't do like sense and avoid is the big one." }, { "start": 422.12, "end": 426.12, "text": " It can't get out of the way of a power line or another airplane." }, { "start": 426.12, "end": 431.12, "text": " The same technology that driverless cars are using to avoid obstacles." }, { "start": 431.12, "end": 434.12, "text": " Right. Could be this stuff will definitely be coming online soon." }, { "start": 434.12, "end": 439.12, "text": " I think the question is, was it a publicity stunt? This is the only question we actually have to answer." }, { "start": 439.12, "end": 445.12, "text": " Was it a publicity stunt? I know this is very itchy or unrelated to this." }, { "start": 445.12, "end": 450.12, "text": " That's what I believe. Was it a publicity stunt or is Jeff Bezos serious about this?" }, { "start": 450.12, "end": 454.12, "text": " And will he do everything he can to make it a reality in 2015 or beyond?" }, { "start": 454.12, "end": 460.12, "text": " So I guess I've been when I was calling around different people in the drone world to ask about what's your thoughts on Amazon?" }, { "start": 460.12, "end": 463.12, "text": " Then somebody else said, oh, well, you know, actually, GPS has been testing this." }, { "start": 463.12, "end": 468.12, "text": " And like the president of FedEx has made clear multiple times. He said, you know, we want to do this as soon as it's legal." }, { "start": 468.12, "end": 471.12, "text": " So, like, I think that everybody thinks this will happen." }, { "start": 471.12, "end": 474.12, "text": " I think if you were to say, depending on your definition of vaporware, it can't happen now." }, { "start": 474.12, "end": 480.12, "text": " So it's vapor. But it's coming. It's realistic. It's plausible. It's illegal right now." }, { "start": 480.12, "end": 484.12, "text": " But that video that they made, I don't think is realistic or plausible." }, { "start": 484.12, "end": 490.12, "text": " It will never be that the drone like, do you want to be the guy?" }, { "start": 490.12, "end": 494.12, "text": " Do you want to be the guy who sat here on the Hellcats and says, this will never happen." }, { "start": 494.12, "end": 501.12, "text": " But we've written Ben wrote one. We've written the story who said the iPhone's going to fail." }, { "start": 501.12, "end": 504.12, "text": " That's right. You're Steve Ballmer. You are Steve Ballmer." }, { "start": 504.12, "end": 511.12, "text": " No, I just I don't think drones leaving packages and flying away again is realistic for any number of reasons," }, { "start": 511.12, "end": 515.12, "text": " not least of which is that they will just be leaving packages in your driveway and flying away." }, { "start": 515.12, "end": 518.12, "text": " Well, they'll be now you'll get a notification. Be at home because this thing's coming." }, { "start": 518.12, "end": 521.12, "text": " Yeah, that's totally reasonable. People who aren't home." }, { "start": 521.12, "end": 524.12, "text": " I need it in half an hour. You're probably not going to get it in New York." }, { "start": 524.12, "end": 526.12, "text": " Like you're not going to get a drone delivered in New York." }, { "start": 526.12, "end": 529.12, "text": " You're going to have to live in some sort of cherry suburb." }, { "start": 529.12, "end": 538.12, "text": " All the infrastructure about how this but not in New York because people live in this 13th floor of an apartment building." }, { "start": 538.12, "end": 543.12, "text": " Like how are they going to come down onto the crowded street with every apartment building?" }, { "start": 543.12, "end": 546.12, "text": " We have like a rooftop delivery where the drone drops." }, { "start": 546.12, "end": 553.12, "text": " What I'm saying is the video I don't think is realistic because I think the reality video." }, { "start": 553.12, "end": 558.12, "text": " It's a concept of a drone delivering packages." }, { "start": 558.12, "end": 564.12, "text": " To me, I'm pissed about this because I didn't I didn't read about the Australian textbooks company." }, { "start": 564.12, "end": 573.12, "text": " I think this is awesome because a lot of how we tried to visualize the future for a long time was these flying cars and flying cars just don't seem to work." }, { "start": 573.12, "end": 580.12, "text": " There is something that we do a lot of things to reduce congestion in cities." }, { "start": 580.12, "end": 585.12, "text": " And now you've had these delivery companies like eBay is doing it." }, { "start": 585.12, "end": 591.12, "text": " Amazon is doing it where they are having random people drive packages from Walmart to your house." }, { "start": 591.12, "end": 592.12, "text": " Yes, it's very upsetting." }, { "start": 592.12, "end": 598.12, "text": " And so like there's just more and more and we're kind of overloading this infrastructure that is the road." }, { "start": 598.12, "end": 612.12, "text": " And if you have this new I think unmanned drones are perfect for using a fairly unused portion of our sky, which is below helicopters and airplanes and higher than I can jump." }, { "start": 612.12, "end": 613.12, "text": " We use up all the ground." }, { "start": 613.12, "end": 616.12, "text": " Everything between the height of how high you can jump and below." }, { "start": 616.12, "end": 618.12, "text": " There's an available bandwidth there." }, { "start": 618.12, "end": 620.12, "text": " That should just be full of drones." }, { "start": 620.12, "end": 623.12, "text": " You are on the same wavelength." }, { "start": 623.12, "end": 626.12, "text": " This guy from Facebook posted about this yesterday, the sharing economy." }, { "start": 626.12, "end": 628.12, "text": " This is like the ultimate utopian Silicon Valley." }, { "start": 628.12, "end": 631.12, "text": " He was like, once John do this, we'll have the sharing economy." }, { "start": 631.12, "end": 632.12, "text": " You will own nothing." }, { "start": 632.12, "end": 636.12, "text": " You'll be like, oh, I need this pot tonight and this knife and a drone will bring it to you and you'll use it." }, { "start": 636.12, "end": 637.12, "text": " That's stupid." }, { "start": 637.12, "end": 639.12, "text": " That person is insane and stupid." }, { "start": 639.12, "end": 640.12, "text": " That'll never happen." }, { "start": 640.12, "end": 643.12, "text": " This is like because if you take that, here's one thing I can tell you." }, { "start": 643.12, "end": 646.12, "text": " Here's what you're not going to take away from the American people owning things." }, { "start": 646.12, "end": 648.12, "text": " You're not going to take that away." }, { "start": 648.12, "end": 653.12, "text": " Our whole existence is built on the consumption and ownership of things." }, { "start": 653.12, "end": 657.12, "text": " People, products, houses." }, { "start": 657.12, "end": 658.12, "text": " I just like owning things." }, { "start": 658.12, "end": 662.12, "text": " I have a very small apartment and I really don't want to have more things." }, { "start": 662.12, "end": 667.12, "text": " I think as we've learned time and time again, Paul Miller is no gauge for humanity." }, { "start": 667.12, "end": 668.12, "text": " I'm sorry." }, { "start": 668.12, "end": 680.12, "text": " I'm sorry to make you uncomfortable with my embrace of the future and my willingness to explore and my total freaking excitement." }, { "start": 680.12, "end": 682.12, "text": " I'm just so happy that Jem C's own..." }, { "start": 682.12, "end": 683.12, "text": " I thought you were pissed." }, { "start": 683.12, "end": 685.12, "text": " No, he's pissed that he didn't learn about it sooner." }, { "start": 685.12, "end": 693.12, "text": " Yeah, I didn't read about the textbook because it's a different way to look at a city and think about how the things get from point A to point B." }, { "start": 693.12, "end": 696.12, "text": " And there's something that seems kind of fundamentally untenable about..." }, { "start": 696.12, "end": 700.12, "text": " Look, sheeple, if we all rode bikes, we wouldn't have to worry about these trucks ingesting our roads." }, { "start": 700.12, "end": 702.12, "text": " I just bought a frigging HDMI cable from Amazon." }, { "start": 702.12, "end": 703.12, "text": " Oh my God." }, { "start": 703.12, "end": 713.12, "text": " And I live down the street from Best Buy and there's GameStop and there's KMR and all of those would charge me $5 million for a six foot HDMI cable." }, { "start": 713.12, "end": 714.12, "text": " What?" }, { "start": 714.12, "end": 715.12, "text": " What's happening?" }, { "start": 715.12, "end": 716.12, "text": " Why don't you just go to the store?" }, { "start": 716.12, "end": 718.12, "text": " Why don't you just order one from Amazon?" }, { "start": 718.12, "end": 720.12, "text": " Just get one shipped to you." }, { "start": 720.12, "end": 721.12, "text": " In a rational..." }, { "start": 721.12, "end": 729.12, "text": " I don't know if a rational economy, but it would be cool if I could walk down the street and buy an HDMI cable for a reasonable price." }, { "start": 729.12, "end": 733.12, "text": " You know what you're talking about? Your problem is not that you can't go get the HDMI cable for a reasonable price." }, { "start": 733.12, "end": 737.12, "text": " Your problem is you're like ridiculously impatient." }, { "start": 737.12, "end": 749.12, "text": " Like human beings are horrible now and we think we should get it drop shipped to us by a drone in 30 minutes because we need a cheaper HDMI cable right this second instead of having to spend money on the more expensive one that is nearby." }, { "start": 749.12, "end": 750.12, "text": " But we're not talking..." }, { "start": 750.12, "end": 751.12, "text": " Your request is irrational." }, { "start": 751.12, "end": 752.12, "text": " It's not irrational." }, { "start": 752.12, "end": 753.12, "text": " Yes, it is." }, { "start": 753.12, "end": 754.12, "text": " Okay, okay." }, { "start": 754.12, "end": 765.12, "text": " What you're asking for is like you're saying like I would not only do I want to buy the cheapest HDMI cable available, but I want it either within walking distance or delivered to me by a drone." }, { "start": 765.12, "end": 768.12, "text": " That's your that's your reasoning for loving a drone idea." }, { "start": 768.12, "end": 776.12, "text": " But what ultimately happened, what ultimately happened is that I bought a cheap HDMI cable on Amazon." }, { "start": 776.12, "end": 777.12, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 777.12, "end": 781.12, "text": " And that had to take up bandwidth on the streets and I probably almost got hit by the HDMI." }, { "start": 781.12, "end": 789.12, "text": " Your HDMI cable wasn't the only thing they were shipping." }, { "start": 789.12, "end": 790.12, "text": " That's why they might as well." }, { "start": 790.12, "end": 794.12, "text": " That's why they make big trucks to hold lots of things so they could ship multiple items." }, { "start": 794.12, "end": 800.12, "text": " They don't have to. Every time they're like, hey, Paul Miller wants HDMI cable and a guy gets in a car and there's in the back of the truck." }, { "start": 800.12, "end": 804.12, "text": " There's an HDMI cable driving towards New York." }, { "start": 804.12, "end": 806.12, "text": " And you really want to robot to take that guy's drop away." }, { "start": 806.12, "end": 812.12, "text": " What has so far been proposed for how to make this quicker is a dude in a car or a lady." }, { "start": 812.12, "end": 821.12, "text": " No, it's a it's a it's a it's a person in a car full of other things they have to deliver." }, { "start": 821.12, "end": 824.12, "text": " It makes a lot of sense. It's like it's like, you know, you've got a bunch of things." }, { "start": 824.12, "end": 827.12, "text": " They're all being delivered to the same area." }, { "start": 827.12, "end": 831.12, "text": " You can put a lot of them in a van and then you can just go door to door handing everybody their product." }, { "start": 831.12, "end": 833.12, "text": " I know. And it's it actually is a pretty good system." }, { "start": 833.12, "end": 839.12, "text": " The problem is people like you want their cheap HDMI cable to be delivered within 30 minutes or less." }, { "start": 839.12, "end": 843.12, "text": " That's the problem. Or like you're like, I won't spend the money on this best buy HDMI cable." }, { "start": 843.12, "end": 849.12, "text": " But I want the cable right now. I didn't grow up buying things online." }, { "start": 849.12, "end": 857.12, "text": " I still don't like buying things online. And it makes sense if you have things close to people." }, { "start": 857.12, "end": 859.12, "text": " Get those things that are already close to people." }, { "start": 859.12, "end": 862.12, "text": " Why doesn't Amazon just open store? Maybe they should just open retail stores." }, { "start": 862.12, "end": 864.12, "text": " Maybe they should with big warehouse." }, { "start": 864.12, "end": 870.12, "text": " Why don't they just open their warehouses as retail stores in major metropolitan areas?" }, { "start": 870.12, "end": 873.12, "text": " Like put a retail level on top. You can take an escalator up." }, { "start": 873.12, "end": 875.12, "text": " They'll just get the stuff out of the warehouse." }, { "start": 875.12, "end": 878.12, "text": " Because what you really want Amazon to do is build urban Ikea's everywhere." }, { "start": 878.12, "end": 883.12, "text": " Yes, that's what I want. I want the Amazon warehouse." }, { "start": 883.12, "end": 888.12, "text": " I'm sorry. It's called Amazon Live. You guys know about this? The Amazon store?" }, { "start": 888.12, "end": 894.12, "text": " Anyway, Amazon is very near and dear to my heart. And if you let anything about Ikea and the experience of Ikea" }, { "start": 894.12, "end": 898.12, "text": " infect the beauty and purity of the Amazon experience." }, { "start": 898.12, "end": 908.12, "text": " Ikea is an incredible business that has brought beautiful Scandinavian design to millions of people." }, { "start": 908.12, "end": 910.12, "text": " And horse meat." }, { "start": 910.12, "end": 912.12, "text": " Were they doing horse meat in America?" }, { "start": 912.12, "end": 914.12, "text": " I think so." }, { "start": 914.12, "end": 916.12, "text": " They've got problems in Europe." }, { "start": 916.12, "end": 918.12, "text": " They don't even have meat laws there." }, { "start": 918.12, "end": 920.12, "text": " Mad cow. Where'd that come from? Europe?" }, { "start": 920.12, "end": 922.12, "text": " I mean you can't trust the Europeans when it comes to meat." }, { "start": 922.12, "end": 923.12, "text": " That's true." }, { "start": 923.12, "end": 927.12, "text": " I love Europeans. But the meat stuff, you've got to be careful." }, { "start": 927.12, "end": 929.12, "text": " Careful of their meat." }, { "start": 929.12, "end": 937.12, "text": " Here's all I know. If you're in a relationship and you want to know whether or not it's going to last, go to Ikea with that person." }, { "start": 937.12, "end": 939.12, "text": " Obviously we know Ikea is a hell world death trap." }, { "start": 939.12, "end": 941.12, "text": " So don't get it near Amazon, man." }, { "start": 941.12, "end": 952.12, "text": " But what I'm saying is, if you'll let me finish, Neli, what I'm saying is what Paul wants, what Paul wants is instant gratification." }, { "start": 952.12, "end": 955.12, "text": " Paul wants what he wants when he wants it." }, { "start": 955.12, "end": 957.12, "text": " You know what I want? I want a local economy." }, { "start": 957.12, "end": 962.12, "text": " Well then you do not want a cheap HDMI cable. You want the most expensive HDMI cable you've ever purchased." }, { "start": 962.12, "end": 967.12, "text": " Because in a local economy, they could only make a few HDMI cables. They had to make them very slowly." }, { "start": 967.12, "end": 971.12, "text": " They had to get high price materials from other local companies." }, { "start": 971.12, "end": 974.12, "text": " How much would it cost to make an HDMI cable in like..." }, { "start": 974.12, "end": 975.12, "text": " Midtown." }, { "start": 975.12, "end": 977.12, "text": " No, midtown would be easy." }, { "start": 977.12, "end": 981.12, "text": " Midtown, I'm like in the middle of Cincinnati, Ohio." }, { "start": 981.12, "end": 984.12, "text": " Handcrafted, artisanal, full HDMI cable on an Etsy." }, { "start": 984.12, "end": 986.12, "text": " I'm misspelled." }, { "start": 986.12, "end": 989.12, "text": " Can you get HDMI cables on Etsy?" }, { "start": 989.12, "end": 991.12, "text": " Can you get HDMI cable? I challenge you." }, { "start": 991.12, "end": 995.12, "text": " Is there a single HDMI cable manufactured in America? Does one exist?" }, { "start": 995.12, "end": 999.12, "text": " Wait, okay, first of all, yes. For some reason you can buy HDMI cables." }, { "start": 999.12, "end": 1001.12, "text": " Etsy is overrun with spam now." }, { "start": 1001.12, "end": 1002.12, "text": " 99 cents." }, { "start": 1002.12, "end": 1004.12, "text": " By the way, overview, handmade item." }, { "start": 1004.12, "end": 1006.12, "text": " 99 cents for HDMI cables." }, { "start": 1006.12, "end": 1008.12, "text": " Shit, this is Brooklyn, New York." }, { "start": 1008.12, "end": 1010.12, "text": " No it doesn't." }, { "start": 1010.12, "end": 1011.12, "text": " Okay, this is a troll." }, { "start": 1011.12, "end": 1012.12, "text": " You better flag that." }, { "start": 1012.12, "end": 1020.12, "text": " Hold on, it's just fundamentally weird to me that I have to order from this big impersonal Amazon.com" }, { "start": 1020.12, "end": 1029.12, "text": " for them to like tell some other thing that they send this thing in the mail and it comes to me and there's so many steps and then I like get it like two days later." }, { "start": 1029.12, "end": 1034.12, "text": " When there are thousands of HDMI cables within like a two block radius." }, { "start": 1034.12, "end": 1035.12, "text": " So go buy those." }, { "start": 1035.12, "end": 1037.12, "text": " That are just completely unaffordable." }, { "start": 1037.12, "end": 1040.12, "text": " You know what you're paying for? Convenience." }, { "start": 1040.12, "end": 1045.12, "text": " That's why they're twice as much money or three times as much money because you can get it at that moment." }, { "start": 1045.12, "end": 1051.12, "text": " Do you know how many times I bought a Blu-ray player at a local electronics store because I wanted to watch a Blu-ray and did not have the player." }, { "start": 1051.12, "end": 1053.12, "text": " Do you know how expensive it was compared to the ones I could buy on Amazon?" }, { "start": 1053.12, "end": 1054.12, "text": " Hey Josh, hey Josh." }, { "start": 1054.12, "end": 1060.12, "text": " So why are you so down on the share economy where the drone brings you the Blu-ray player for a night and then you get it back after you watched your Blu-ray?" }, { "start": 1060.12, "end": 1061.12, "text": " Do you ever order Fresh Direct, Josh?" }, { "start": 1061.12, "end": 1062.12, "text": " All the time." }, { "start": 1062.12, "end": 1063.12, "text": " I know." }, { "start": 1063.12, "end": 1064.12, "text": " I love it." }, { "start": 1064.12, "end": 1065.12, "text": " Do you get Seltzer delivered to your door?" }, { "start": 1065.12, "end": 1067.12, "text": " Yes, every two weeks." }, { "start": 1067.12, "end": 1069.12, "text": " What's your, and I pay for it." }, { "start": 1069.12, "end": 1070.12, "text": " It's expensive." }, { "start": 1070.12, "end": 1071.12, "text": " It's great." }, { "start": 1071.12, "end": 1072.12, "text": " Fresh Direct is a rip off and my Seltzer guy is killing me." }, { "start": 1072.12, "end": 1073.12, "text": " Do you remember?" }, { "start": 1073.12, "end": 1075.12, "text": " I don't expect it." }, { "start": 1075.12, "end": 1076.12, "text": " I'm going to get." }, { "start": 1076.12, "end": 1081.12, "text": " You're not going to recover." }, { "start": 1081.12, "end": 1083.12, "text": " Fresh Direct is cheaper than going to Whole Foods." }, { "start": 1083.12, "end": 1084.12, "text": " I'm just saying." }, { "start": 1084.12, "end": 1085.12, "text": " Fresh Direct keeps its prices down." }, { "start": 1085.12, "end": 1086.12, "text": " Yes, Fresh Direct is cheaper than going to Whole Foods." }, { "start": 1086.12, "end": 1087.12, "text": " And they cover their delivery costs." }, { "start": 1087.12, "end": 1088.12, "text": " You know what Fresh Direct has?" }, { "start": 1088.12, "end": 1089.12, "text": " A warehouse in New York." }, { "start": 1089.12, "end": 1090.12, "text": " Exactly." }, { "start": 1090.12, "end": 1092.12, "text": " So Amazon needs to build a warehouse in New York." }, { "start": 1092.12, "end": 1093.12, "text": " Exactly." }, { "start": 1093.12, "end": 1094.12, "text": " And deliver drones then." }, { "start": 1094.12, "end": 1096.12, "text": " Because then I don't want to have 20,000." }, { "start": 1096.12, "end": 1098.12, "text": " Why can't a guy just bring it over on a bike?" }, { "start": 1098.12, "end": 1099.12, "text": " You love bikes." }, { "start": 1099.12, "end": 1101.12, "text": " Okay, if you want to create jobs, bikes would be fine." }, { "start": 1101.12, "end": 1102.12, "text": " Create human jobs." }, { "start": 1102.12, "end": 1104.12, "text": " You're sitting in front of an American flag right now." }, { "start": 1104.12, "end": 1105.12, "text": " Put them on a city bike." }, { "start": 1105.12, "end": 1107.12, "text": " Send them over with your HDMI cable." }, { "start": 1107.12, "end": 1108.12, "text": " Hey, drones need jobs too." }, { "start": 1108.12, "end": 1109.12, "text": " Problem solved." }, { "start": 1109.12, "end": 1110.12, "text": " No, they don't." }, { "start": 1110.12, "end": 1111.12, "text": " Yeah, I mean like the thing you're talking about, the sharing for me." }, { "start": 1111.12, "end": 1112.12, "text": " We got to wrap up this conversation." }, { "start": 1112.12, "end": 1113.12, "text": " Let's transition." }, { "start": 1113.12, "end": 1114.12, "text": " So you're worried about human jobs." }, { "start": 1114.12, "end": 1115.12, "text": " We're talking about Amazon and drones." }, { "start": 1115.12, "end": 1116.12, "text": " We talked about Google and driverless cars." }, { "start": 1116.12, "end": 1124.12, "text": " And then the news today, right, was that Andy Rubin has left Android to build real Android" }, { "start": 1124.12, "end": 1125.12, "text": " to build robots, right?" }, { "start": 1125.12, "end": 1126.12, "text": " Building Android." }, { "start": 1126.12, "end": 1130.2399999999998, "text": " So it's interesting to me, I think, like the big thing, right, is like all these big companies" }, { "start": 1130.24, "end": 1134.16, "text": " that started as software companies or web companies, Amazon, they're getting into robotics." }, { "start": 1134.16, "end": 1140.04, "text": " Like this stuff is becoming cheap enough to prototype and deal with and maybe accessible" }, { "start": 1140.04, "end": 1143, "text": " to consumers in a way that like Google is like, let's throw some money at it." }, { "start": 1143, "end": 1144.76, "text": " Let's build a sex bot already." }, { "start": 1144.76, "end": 1150.16, "text": " I mean, this drone delivery and you know, whatever else they're doing, a guy cleans" }, { "start": 1150.16, "end": 1151.4, "text": " your floor or something." }, { "start": 1151.4, "end": 1152.4, "text": " Just build the sex bot." }, { "start": 1152.4, "end": 1153.4, "text": " That's what everybody wants anyhow." }, { "start": 1153.4, "end": 1162.0800000000002, "text": " When you have a huge use in the market for robots and drones would be one huge use, it" }, { "start": 1162.0800000000002, "end": 1164.64, "text": " promotes the advance of that industry." }, { "start": 1164.64, "end": 1168.52, "text": " Or it makes people hate robots and start some kind of weird cult against robots." }, { "start": 1168.52, "end": 1170.3200000000002, "text": " And then it leads us into some sort of civil war." }, { "start": 1170.3200000000002, "end": 1171.72, "text": " I hope you're happy." }, { "start": 1171.72, "end": 1172.72, "text": " That's always what happens." }, { "start": 1172.72, "end": 1173.72, "text": " Have you seen iRobot?" }, { "start": 1173.72, "end": 1174.72, "text": " It would be thrilling." }, { "start": 1174.72, "end": 1175.72, "text": " I've seen iRobot." }, { "start": 1175.72, "end": 1176.72, "text": " It is terrible." }, { "start": 1176.72, "end": 1177.72, "text": " It is on all the time." }, { "start": 1177.72, "end": 1179.8200000000002, "text": " Have you used red iRobot?" }, { "start": 1179.8200000000002, "end": 1182.16, "text": " Because that is full of fun philosophical quandary." }, { "start": 1182.16, "end": 1184.6000000000001, "text": " Well that's a great, great, great, that's great." }, { "start": 1184.6000000000001, "end": 1185.6000000000001, "text": " That's great." }, { "start": 1185.6000000000001, "end": 1187.8400000000001, "text": " Blow anything up from a great brain." }, { "start": 1187.8400000000001, "end": 1193.48, "text": " Literally, if you took the thesis overall of the movie with Will Smith and the thesis" }, { "start": 1193.48, "end": 1197.92, "text": " overall of the book iRobot, they would, they would battle each other to the death." }, { "start": 1197.92, "end": 1202.76, "text": " What do you think the thesis of the movie is?" }, { "start": 1202.76, "end": 1203.76, "text": " Robots be bad." }, { "start": 1203.76, "end": 1204.76, "text": " Robots are crazy." }, { "start": 1204.76, "end": 1205.76, "text": " Like catchphrase, explosion, robots." }, { "start": 1205.76, "end": 1210.3600000000001, "text": " Scary, scary robots do bad things." }, { "start": 1210.36, "end": 1214.6799999999998, "text": " But people are ultimately what's broken." }, { "start": 1214.6799999999998, "end": 1216.08, "text": " Sex bot on the Oculus." }, { "start": 1216.08, "end": 1217.08, "text": " Oh my God." }, { "start": 1217.08, "end": 1218.08, "text": " Sorry." }, { "start": 1218.08, "end": 1219.6399999999999, "text": " Okay, okay, hold on, hold on, hold on." }, { "start": 1219.6399999999999, "end": 1222.36, "text": " This is a, this is an Oculus sex bot, but I'm sorry." }, { "start": 1222.36, "end": 1223.36, "text": " What?" }, { "start": 1223.36, "end": 1224.36, "text": " No one wants to do." }, { "start": 1224.36, "end": 1225.36, "text": " Why does this happen?" }, { "start": 1225.36, "end": 1226.36, "text": " No one wants to put their wang, wang." }, { "start": 1226.36, "end": 1227.36, "text": " What is that?" }, { "start": 1227.36, "end": 1228.36, "text": " Have you not seen this?" }, { "start": 1228.36, "end": 1229.36, "text": " No." }, { "start": 1229.36, "end": 1230.36, "text": " It gives you a, it gives you a hand job." }, { "start": 1230.36, "end": 1231.36, "text": " No, I gathered what it was doing, Josh." }, { "start": 1231.36, "end": 1239.36, "text": " You don't have to show me that and explain that it's a hand job to me." }, { "start": 1239.36, "end": 1245.6799999999998, "text": " I like Paul scandalized, like just all the people to be scandalized." }, { "start": 1245.6799999999998, "end": 1250.9599999999998, "text": " Paul, I don't, I don't want the robots involved in that, but if you want to preserve your" }, { "start": 1250.9599999999998, "end": 1256.56, "text": " already good thing to have all these sex robots, I think, I think they'll think so." }, { "start": 1256.56, "end": 1260.4399999999998, "text": " Actually that's a, that's a real philosophical quandary." }, { "start": 1260.4399999999998, "end": 1261.52, "text": " I don't think it really is." }, { "start": 1261.52, "end": 1265.28, "text": " I think, I think at the end of the day, if you're banging a robot, it's almost like having" }, { "start": 1265.28, "end": 1266.28, "text": " sex with an animal." }, { "start": 1266.28, "end": 1267.28, "text": " No, it's not." }, { "start": 1267.28, "end": 1268.28, "text": " Come on." }, { "start": 1268.28, "end": 1271.56, "text": " It's not animals are, are animals have souls and go to heaven." }, { "start": 1271.56, "end": 1276.76, "text": " It's degrading to the animal because the robot isn't an animal, but it's degrading to the" }, { "start": 1276.76, "end": 1277.76, "text": " person." }, { "start": 1277.76, "end": 1278.76, "text": " It's perfect." }, { "start": 1278.76, "end": 1282.76, "text": " No one's going to argue that the person, you know, you say that now, but when the, when" }, { "start": 1282.76, "end": 1286.32, "text": " the robots are really sexy, you're not going to feel it's as degraded." }, { "start": 1286.32, "end": 1292.6, "text": " So it was just a, if it's just a thing pumping like a machine, I think it's especially degrading." }, { "start": 1292.6, "end": 1296.3999999999999, "text": " But I think if it's like a beautiful man or woman, then suddenly it seems less degraded." }, { "start": 1296.3999999999999, "end": 1297.3999999999999, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 1297.4, "end": 1298.4, "text": " It's more like a beautiful man or woman robot." }, { "start": 1298.4, "end": 1303.72, "text": " And with good enough virtual reality, it can be very, that's like paying more for sex." }, { "start": 1303.72, "end": 1305.88, "text": " Can I actually say something?" }, { "start": 1305.88, "end": 1308.8400000000001, "text": " A sex bot and what we just saw are two very different things." }, { "start": 1308.8400000000001, "end": 1313.68, "text": " That was like a simulator, a hand job simulator with a virtual reality component." }, { "start": 1313.68, "end": 1314.68, "text": " Two thousand." }, { "start": 1314.68, "end": 1315.68, "text": " What I'm talking about." }, { "start": 1315.68, "end": 1319.52, "text": " Really draw the parameters as tightly as possible." }, { "start": 1319.52, "end": 1320.8400000000001, "text": " When I say sex bot." }, { "start": 1320.8400000000001, "end": 1322.64, "text": " That was more of a virtual H.J. situation." }, { "start": 1322.64, "end": 1323.64, "text": " You're talking about a humanoid." }, { "start": 1323.64, "end": 1330.5600000000002, "text": " I mean a humanoid robot that does sex to you or that you do sex to, depending on the situation" }, { "start": 1330.5600000000002, "end": 1331.5600000000002, "text": " that might arise." }, { "start": 1331.5600000000002, "end": 1332.5600000000002, "text": " Anyhow, moving on." }, { "start": 1332.5600000000002, "end": 1336.0400000000002, "text": " Andy Rubin is by the way focused on manufacturing." }, { "start": 1336.0400000000002, "end": 1337.0400000000002, "text": " He's not banging." }, { "start": 1337.0400000000002, "end": 1339.0400000000002, "text": " What is Andy, tell us what Andy Rubin is building." }, { "start": 1339.0400000000002, "end": 1341.24, "text": " No, so he, uh, sex bots." }, { "start": 1341.24, "end": 1344.3600000000001, "text": " It's actually kind of weird, the story." }, { "start": 1344.3600000000001, "end": 1346, "text": " Cause it just came out in the New York Times." }, { "start": 1346, "end": 1347.8200000000002, "text": " He granted some access to the Times." }, { "start": 1347.8200000000002, "end": 1350.5600000000002, "text": " He said this is not part of Google X." }, { "start": 1350.5600000000002, "end": 1351.5600000000002, "text": " This is his own thing." }, { "start": 1351.5600000000002, "end": 1353.5200000000002, "text": " It could be spun out as his own company." }, { "start": 1353.52, "end": 1355.24, "text": " But it is focused on moonshots." }, { "start": 1355.24, "end": 1356.24, "text": " Moonshots." }, { "start": 1356.24, "end": 1357.24, "text": " Hashtag moonshots." }, { "start": 1357.24, "end": 1358.24, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1358.24, "end": 1364.32, "text": " Um, they've bought seven companies to staff this thing up and the, it's weird because" }, { "start": 1364.32, "end": 1368.08, "text": " they talked to Rubin and then according to several people with specific knowledge of" }, { "start": 1368.08, "end": 1373.16, "text": " the project, uh, it could be used for electronics assembly and manufacturing and aid and sort" }, { "start": 1373.16, "end": 1374.68, "text": " of making things in the United States." }, { "start": 1374.68, "end": 1375.68, "text": " Nothing." }, { "start": 1375.68, "end": 1377.44, "text": " Well, none of you can't have sex with any of that." }, { "start": 1377.44, "end": 1378.84, "text": " That sounds good and also bad." }, { "start": 1378.84, "end": 1382.52, "text": " It's like, Hey, we're bringing jobs back to America for robots." }, { "start": 1382.52, "end": 1386, "text": " Robot, robot, you know, but somebody's got to put the robots together." }, { "start": 1386, "end": 1387, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 1387, "end": 1388, "text": " You know?" }, { "start": 1388, "end": 1389, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 1389, "end": 1390, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 1390, "end": 1391, "text": " There's a lot of the, there's the coworking robots." }, { "start": 1391, "end": 1397.92, "text": " Like that's, you have a person who is working alongside a robot and you combine a human" }, { "start": 1397.92, "end": 1403.68, "text": " intelligence and adaptability and flexibility for situations with a robot's really good" }, { "start": 1403.68, "end": 1408.6399999999999, "text": " at doing repetitive things that could eventually strain a human's wrist." }, { "start": 1408.6399999999999, "end": 1411.44, "text": " So here's the bigger theme." }, { "start": 1411.44, "end": 1420.16, "text": " I'm just going to leave that there." }, { "start": 1420.16, "end": 1422.64, "text": " But Google is writing big checks, right?" }, { "start": 1422.64, "end": 1424.64, "text": " I mean like this is, they bought seven companies." }, { "start": 1424.64, "end": 1427.3200000000002, "text": " This is not even in their like crazy projects lab." }, { "start": 1427.3200000000002, "end": 1428.3200000000002, "text": " This is another thing." }, { "start": 1428.3200000000002, "end": 1429.3200000000002, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 1429.3200000000002, "end": 1431.56, "text": " And the same with Calico, that life extension company, like they're giving them all this" }, { "start": 1431.56, "end": 1435, "text": " money, but it's not an like they're, they're allowing people within the company to just" }, { "start": 1435, "end": 1437.92, "text": " go off on some really crazy, crazy moonshot." }, { "start": 1437.92, "end": 1439.4, "text": " Google Island is going to be really messed up." }, { "start": 1439.4, "end": 1440.4, "text": " That's all I know." }, { "start": 1440.4, "end": 1441.4, "text": " It's going to be weird." }, { "start": 1441.4, "end": 1442.4, "text": " It actually happens." }, { "start": 1442.4, "end": 1443.4, "text": " People living forever." }, { "start": 1443.4, "end": 1444.4, "text": " It is going to be a serious, seriously." }, { "start": 1444.4, "end": 1446.4, "text": " Banging robots that are manufacturing cell phones." }, { "start": 1446.4, "end": 1447.4, "text": " That are manufacturing themselves." }, { "start": 1447.4, "end": 1448.4, "text": " Well, seriously, it's weird." }, { "start": 1448.4, "end": 1449.4, "text": " It's funny." }, { "start": 1449.4, "end": 1453.44, "text": " We've had this conversation out for over a day." }, { "start": 1453.44, "end": 1458.74, "text": " This is just of a piece of like random rich people saying they're going to do things that" }, { "start": 1458.74, "end": 1461.24, "text": " are years and years away." }, { "start": 1461.24, "end": 1462.68, "text": " And you have a problem with that." }, { "start": 1462.68, "end": 1463.76, "text": " No, I don't have a problem with it." }, { "start": 1463.76, "end": 1464.76, "text": " It's just, it's weird." }, { "start": 1464.76, "end": 1465.76, "text": " Thematically." }, { "start": 1465.76, "end": 1466.76, "text": " You hate dreams." }, { "start": 1466.76, "end": 1468.5600000000002, "text": " It's Elon Musk in the hyperloop." }, { "start": 1468.5600000000002, "end": 1469.5600000000002, "text": " It's in the hyperloop." }, { "start": 1469.56, "end": 1473.48, "text": " And just like people, this is how people were murdered in Clue." }, { "start": 1473.48, "end": 1474.48, "text": " Elon Musk in the hyperloop." }, { "start": 1474.48, "end": 1475.48, "text": " And you're with a robot." }, { "start": 1475.48, "end": 1476.48, "text": " And you're with a robot." }, { "start": 1476.48, "end": 1477.48, "text": " With a sex bot." }, { "start": 1477.48, "end": 1478.48, "text": " With a sex bot." }, { "start": 1478.48, "end": 1479.48, "text": " Who else, who else is there?" }, { "start": 1479.48, "end": 1480.48, "text": " Jeff Bezos." }, { "start": 1480.48, "end": 1481.48, "text": " Jeff Bezos with a drone." }, { "start": 1481.48, "end": 1486.48, "text": " Do you think it's like a sign of like a bubble or something?" }, { "start": 1486.48, "end": 1492.3999999999999, "text": " No, it's just, it's just a weird moment where I think we don't like real change only comes" }, { "start": 1492.3999999999999, "end": 1494.8, "text": " from like corporate entities right now." }, { "start": 1494.8, "end": 1495.8, "text": " And so." }, { "start": 1495.8, "end": 1497.8, "text": " Well, we've regulated the government into, into stitches." }, { "start": 1497.8, "end": 1500.6, "text": " This is like a rich dude doing stuff." }, { "start": 1500.6, "end": 1501.6, "text": " Maybe like Google." }, { "start": 1501.6, "end": 1502.6, "text": " The government's regulated it itself." }, { "start": 1502.6, "end": 1505.76, "text": " Because they were the first ones to be like, it's beta, it's busted, it doesn't really" }, { "start": 1505.76, "end": 1508.2, "text": " exist, driverless cars or glass, but it's coming." }, { "start": 1508.2, "end": 1509.2, "text": " And people got so excited." }, { "start": 1509.2, "end": 1510.2, "text": " Well, you have to dream." }, { "start": 1510.2, "end": 1511.2, "text": " It's NASA." }, { "start": 1511.2, "end": 1512.2, "text": " It's the space program." }, { "start": 1512.2, "end": 1513.2, "text": " If you look at this." }, { "start": 1513.2, "end": 1514.2, "text": " That's what a moonshot is." }, { "start": 1514.2, "end": 1515.2, "text": " Like, like." }, { "start": 1515.2, "end": 1516.2, "text": " Literally." }, { "start": 1516.2, "end": 1517.2, "text": " Go ahead." }, { "start": 1517.2, "end": 1523.3999999999999, "text": " All this drone stuff is very much from like university research, hackers, do it yourself" }, { "start": 1523.3999999999999, "end": 1524.3999999999999, "text": " stuff." }, { "start": 1524.4, "end": 1529.76, "text": " And all the robotic stuff has survived as university research and hobbyists because" }, { "start": 1529.76, "end": 1531.96, "text": " it hasn't been a legitimate." }, { "start": 1531.96, "end": 1532.96, "text": " R O S right." }, { "start": 1532.96, "end": 1534.96, "text": " Isn't that the robot operating system?" }, { "start": 1534.96, "end": 1535.96, "text": " Yeah, there's Ross." }, { "start": 1535.96, "end": 1537.96, "text": " Ross started in a school." }, { "start": 1537.96, "end": 1538.96, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 1538.96, "end": 1542.24, "text": " Um, and now, and that's in this Baxter coworking robot." }, { "start": 1542.24, "end": 1547.4, "text": " So like now some of this stuff has matured far enough in these hobbyists and university" }, { "start": 1547.4, "end": 1552.0400000000002, "text": " settings that now these businesses are able to possibly actually make products out of." }, { "start": 1552.0400000000002, "end": 1553.0400000000002, "text": " Here's what I think." }, { "start": 1553.04, "end": 1556.76, "text": " There's driverless cars, a lot of that technology came from university research and the DARPA." }, { "start": 1556.76, "end": 1561.92, "text": " I think if we fast forward 25 years, this conversation will seem so Queen and ridiculous." }, { "start": 1561.92, "end": 1564.2, "text": " Like I think we're going to have drone delivery systems." }, { "start": 1564.2, "end": 1565.72, "text": " I think we're going to have sex bots." }, { "start": 1565.72, "end": 1569.12, "text": " I think we're going to have coworking or just working robots." }, { "start": 1569.12, "end": 1574.28, "text": " I mean, I think in the span of like the next 25 years, this pod, this podcast will be," }, { "start": 1574.28, "end": 1577.36, "text": " you know, three or four robots sitting here talking to each other." }, { "start": 1577.36, "end": 1578.36, "text": " It'd be replacements." }, { "start": 1578.36, "end": 1581.08, "text": " I mean, you were having the same conversation already." }, { "start": 1581.08, "end": 1585.9199999999998, "text": " Oh God, I wish we could do it an effect where we all ripped our faces off." }, { "start": 1585.9199999999998, "end": 1587.1999999999998, "text": " We were like sparking robots." }, { "start": 1587.1999999999998, "end": 1588.96, "text": " Can we pause this podcast?" }, { "start": 1588.96, "end": 1593.1999999999998, "text": " Would that be shocking to the viewer or thrilling?" }, { "start": 1593.1999999999998, "end": 1594.1999999999998, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1594.1999999999998, "end": 1602, "text": " I mean, wouldn't it be shocking if, if somehow during this, uh, broadcast I were to, to start" }, { "start": 1602, "end": 1603.8, "text": " to reach under my, you know, you were like, what is that?" }, { "start": 1603.8, "end": 1605.3999999999999, "text": " Are you, you have an itch there or something." }, { "start": 1605.3999999999999, "end": 1609.72, "text": " And I just, and I just ripped off my skin and you were like, oh my God, he's ripping" }, { "start": 1609.72, "end": 1610.72, "text": " his skin off." }, { "start": 1610.72, "end": 1611.72, "text": " He's, he's killing him." }, { "start": 1611.72, "end": 1612.92, "text": " Somebody call an ambulance." }, { "start": 1612.92, "end": 1617.14, "text": " And then there was no blood and there was just a horrendous, horrific terminator face." }, { "start": 1617.14, "end": 1621.04, "text": " And then I removed the terminator face and there was a regular Josh face under there." }, { "start": 1621.04, "end": 1622.04, "text": " Would that freak you out?" }, { "start": 1622.04, "end": 1623.04, "text": " We can probably pull that off right now." }, { "start": 1623.04, "end": 1624.04, "text": " Would that freak you out?" }, { "start": 1624.04, "end": 1625.04, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1625.04, "end": 1626.04, "text": " Give us a couple of minutes." }, { "start": 1626.04, "end": 1627.04, "text": " Just try it." }, { "start": 1627.04, "end": 1628.04, "text": " Just try it real quick." }, { "start": 1628.04, "end": 1629.04, "text": " Yeah, we should move on." }, { "start": 1629.04, "end": 1631.04, "text": " Oh, by the way, I would like to point out that Ben was supposed to stealthily leave" }, { "start": 1631.04, "end": 1632.04, "text": " and he did that during the moment." }, { "start": 1632.04, "end": 1633.04, "text": " It was so stealth." }, { "start": 1633.04, "end": 1634.04, "text": " Ben had to step away." }, { "start": 1634.04, "end": 1635.04, "text": " But then he walked behind you and his head was standing right there." }, { "start": 1635.04, "end": 1636.04, "text": " I'm so out of here." }, { "start": 1636.04, "end": 1641.04, "text": " Next topic, Eli." }, { "start": 1641.04, "end": 1642.04, "text": " Good one, Ben." }, { "start": 1642.04, "end": 1643.04, "text": " Good job." }, { "start": 1643.04, "end": 1644.04, "text": " Great job, Ben." }, { "start": 1644.04, "end": 1645.04, "text": " Great job." }, { "start": 1645.04, "end": 1646.04, "text": " What's happening?" }, { "start": 1646.04, "end": 1647.04, "text": " Why are you whispering?" }, { "start": 1647.04, "end": 1648.04, "text": " We can hear every word you're saying." }, { "start": 1648.04, "end": 1649.04, "text": " Just kidding." }, { "start": 1649.04, "end": 1650.04, "text": " We can't." }, { "start": 1650.04, "end": 1652.32, "text": " Well, there's one that I think is really weird." }, { "start": 1652.32, "end": 1653.32, "text": " Please share with us." }, { "start": 1653.32, "end": 1655.24, "text": " Also, I have a little Xbox rant." }, { "start": 1655.24, "end": 1656.24, "text": " Go ahead." }, { "start": 1656.24, "end": 1657.24, "text": " Do the Xbox rant." }, { "start": 1657.24, "end": 1658.24, "text": " Is this a good time?" }, { "start": 1658.24, "end": 1659.24, "text": " I brought a prop." }, { "start": 1659.24, "end": 1660.24, "text": " You brought a prop?" }, { "start": 1660.24, "end": 1661.24, "text": " Uh-oh." }, { "start": 1661.24, "end": 1662.24, "text": " This is going to be like, this is my Kinect." }, { "start": 1662.24, "end": 1663.24, "text": " No, this is the-" }, { "start": 1663.24, "end": 1664.24, "text": " You literally brought your Kinect." }, { "start": 1664.24, "end": 1665.24, "text": " I know it's a Kinect." }, { "start": 1665.24, "end": 1666.24, "text": " I know." }, { "start": 1666.24, "end": 1667.24, "text": " I did not know that was what was going to happen." }, { "start": 1667.24, "end": 1668.24, "text": " This is the Office Kinect." }, { "start": 1668.24, "end": 1669.24, "text": " Oh, hey." }, { "start": 1669.24, "end": 1670.24, "text": " Wait a second." }, { "start": 1670.24, "end": 1671.24, "text": " We need that." }, { "start": 1671.24, "end": 1672.24, "text": " Why do you have it?" }, { "start": 1672.24, "end": 1674.24, "text": " And this right here, I'd like-" }, { "start": 1674.24, "end": 1677.24, "text": " A non-standard USB 3 plug?" }, { "start": 1677.24, "end": 1678.24, "text": " This is bullshit." }, { "start": 1678.24, "end": 1679.24, "text": " Whoa." }, { "start": 1679.24, "end": 1680.24, "text": " What's underneath it?" }, { "start": 1680.24, "end": 1681.24, "text": " The plug." }, { "start": 1681.24, "end": 1682.24, "text": " It's a USB 3 plug." }, { "start": 1682.24, "end": 1683.24, "text": " You know what it's called?" }, { "start": 1683.24, "end": 1687.36, "text": " It's called Screw You Hackers, We Win." }, { "start": 1687.36, "end": 1688.84, "text": " Make it just hack together an adapter for it." }, { "start": 1688.84, "end": 1689.84, "text": " I'm sure." }, { "start": 1689.84, "end": 1690.84, "text": " It's a USB 3 plug." }, { "start": 1690.84, "end": 1691.84, "text": " Here's what you do." }, { "start": 1691.84, "end": 1692.84, "text": " You get your soldering iron." }, { "start": 1692.84, "end": 1693.84, "text": " Someone's going to figure that out." }, { "start": 1693.84, "end": 1694.84, "text": " You get your soldering iron out." }, { "start": 1694.84, "end": 1697.04, "text": " And then you get a little history reminder." }, { "start": 1697.04, "end": 1698.04, "text": " People started-" }, { "start": 1698.04, "end": 1699.04, "text": " History, I think these are called history lessons." }, { "start": 1699.04, "end": 1700.04, "text": " History reminder." }, { "start": 1700.04, "end": 1701.48, "text": " Well, I don't want to teach." }, { "start": 1701.48, "end": 1702.76, "text": " I want to remind." }, { "start": 1702.76, "end": 1703.76, "text": " History reminder." }, { "start": 1703.76, "end": 1704.76, "text": " Refresher." }, { "start": 1704.76, "end": 1707.02, "text": " A refresher." }, { "start": 1707.02, "end": 1710.28, "text": " People started hacking the Kinect right when it came out." }, { "start": 1710.28, "end": 1711.54, "text": " Microsoft sent cease and desist." }, { "start": 1711.54, "end": 1712.54, "text": " No, it didn't." }, { "start": 1712.54, "end": 1713.54, "text": " Microsoft-" }, { "start": 1713.54, "end": 1714.54, "text": " It did at first." }, { "start": 1714.54, "end": 1717.8799999999999, "text": " They were horrible and hateful and mean and scary to these people." }, { "start": 1717.8799999999999, "end": 1719.1599999999999, "text": " But they're going to keep on hacking it." }, { "start": 1719.1599999999999, "end": 1720.1599999999999, "text": " So they kept on hacking it." }, { "start": 1720.1599999999999, "end": 1722.4399999999998, "text": " And then Microsoft does this about phase." }, { "start": 1722.44, "end": 1727, "text": " Like, oh, look at all this cool research and they're pretending like they're into these" }, { "start": 1727, "end": 1731.2, "text": " people and helping them out and making these incentives for them to do stuff." }, { "start": 1731.2, "end": 1734.6000000000001, "text": " None of that really cool stuff really ever ended up on the Xbox." }, { "start": 1734.6000000000001, "end": 1739.6000000000001, "text": " There's still a lot of these open source libraries and frameworks and hack together things." }, { "start": 1739.6000000000001, "end": 1741.44, "text": " And people just hack and mess around with-" }, { "start": 1741.44, "end": 1742.88, "text": " And amazing stuff has been done with it." }, { "start": 1742.88, "end": 1744.6000000000001, "text": " Really cool stuff." }, { "start": 1744.6000000000001, "end": 1750.6000000000001, "text": " Then Microsoft came out with Kinect for Windows and some of their own software for Windows." }, { "start": 1750.6, "end": 1757.32, "text": " But if you're a hacker, none of that hacker stuff and really none of that Kinect stuff" }, { "start": 1757.32, "end": 1762.36, "text": " for Windows can be used with Kinects that people buy for their Xbox." }, { "start": 1762.36, "end": 1764.32, "text": " They're not for commercial use." }, { "start": 1764.32, "end": 1770.48, "text": " So there's no actual use case on the Xbox because the Xbox is a very closed platform." }, { "start": 1770.48, "end": 1774.48, "text": " There's no actual use case on Windows because unless someone actually buys a Kinect for" }, { "start": 1774.48, "end": 1779.48, "text": " Windows, they can't really use this as a commercial thing." }, { "start": 1779.48, "end": 1783.1200000000001, "text": " So I was looking into this because I was really stoked about the Kinect." }, { "start": 1783.1200000000001, "end": 1786.44, "text": " I was looking into like, well, how do you learn how to program for the Kinect and maybe" }, { "start": 1786.44, "end": 1788.82, "text": " I can make a tech demo and that'd be fun." }, { "start": 1788.82, "end": 1795.44, "text": " And then I buy an Xbox One on impulse and sadness and I pull it out and I'm setting" }, { "start": 1795.44, "end": 1796.44, "text": " it on sadness." }, { "start": 1796.44, "end": 1799.88, "text": " Why don't you just sign up for the Kinect for Windows SDK and just buy it?" }, { "start": 1799.88, "end": 1800.88, "text": " It's $400." }, { "start": 1800.88, "end": 1801.88, "text": " Because nobody has Kinect for Windows." }, { "start": 1801.88, "end": 1807.14, "text": " If you develop something with Kinect for Windows, you're only allowed to actually officially" }, { "start": 1807.14, "end": 1808.14, "text": " commercially distribute it." }, { "start": 1808.14, "end": 1809.3600000000001, "text": " I'm sorry, what are you asking for?" }, { "start": 1809.36, "end": 1810.36, "text": " I'm confused." }, { "start": 1810.36, "end": 1811.36, "text": " I'm saying that Microsoft-" }, { "start": 1811.36, "end": 1813.04, "text": " You want to be able to hack on the One." }, { "start": 1813.04, "end": 1817.3999999999999, "text": " Still hates these hackers and is still so pissed at them and now they've created this" }, { "start": 1817.3999999999999, "end": 1824.8799999999999, "text": " bogus plug and it just really bugs me the way that they act." }, { "start": 1824.8799999999999, "end": 1825.8799999999999, "text": " You're really mad." }, { "start": 1825.8799999999999, "end": 1826.8799999999999, "text": " I'm really mad." }, { "start": 1826.8799999999999, "end": 1827.8799999999999, "text": " I'm really mad." }, { "start": 1827.8799999999999, "end": 1828.8799999999999, "text": " I'm just a little confused." }, { "start": 1828.8799999999999, "end": 1834.9599999999998, "text": " Are you mad that they made the Kinect difficult to hook up to a standard PC or whatever?" }, { "start": 1834.96, "end": 1841.32, "text": " Are you mad that they're not providing tools that interface with the Xbox One to allow" }, { "start": 1841.32, "end": 1845.24, "text": " you to do some hacky stuff?" }, { "start": 1845.24, "end": 1847.24, "text": " I guess probably the former." }, { "start": 1847.24, "end": 1853.68, "text": " The thing is that Microsoft hugely benefited from, and science and interesting cool things," }, { "start": 1853.68, "end": 1855.24, "text": " hugely benefited from the fact-" }, { "start": 1855.24, "end": 1856.96, "text": " What are some of its benefits?" }, { "start": 1856.96, "end": 1861.78, "text": " A lot of machine vision and a lot of machine learning, a lot of robotics was really advanced" }, { "start": 1861.78, "end": 1862.78, "text": " by the Kinect sensor." }, { "start": 1862.78, "end": 1865.8799999999999, "text": " It became almost like the de facto robotic sensor." }, { "start": 1865.8799999999999, "end": 1867.68, "text": " It was huge for robotics." }, { "start": 1867.68, "end": 1868.68, "text": " And also-" }, { "start": 1868.68, "end": 1872.16, "text": " Maybe that's what Microsoft doesn't like." }, { "start": 1872.16, "end": 1874.92, "text": " When they opened it up, you mean?" }, { "start": 1874.92, "end": 1875.92, "text": " No." }, { "start": 1875.92, "end": 1878.44, "text": " Microsoft never helped really very much." }, { "start": 1878.44, "end": 1880.16, "text": " What was the benefit that they gained?" }, { "start": 1880.16, "end": 1882.04, "text": " People were buying them?" }, { "start": 1882.04, "end": 1888.84, "text": " Microsoft fell into a cool moment and tried to capitalize and rebrand it as their cool" }, { "start": 1888.84, "end": 1891.24, "text": " moment and tried to be a part of it." }, { "start": 1891.24, "end": 1896.16, "text": " And then they come up with this bogus adapter to just stop that ever happening again." }, { "start": 1896.16, "end": 1897.16, "text": " Don't you think-" }, { "start": 1897.16, "end": 1898.16, "text": " But they're going to sell it." }, { "start": 1898.16, "end": 1899.16, "text": " They're going to sell one for Windows." }, { "start": 1899.16, "end": 1900.16, "text": " Don't you think they'll sell a-" }, { "start": 1900.16, "end": 1901.16, "text": " They use a standard USB 3." }, { "start": 1901.16, "end": 1902.16, "text": " Connect 2 for Windows." }, { "start": 1902.16, "end": 1903.16, "text": " Nobody buys that thing." }, { "start": 1903.16, "end": 1904.16, "text": " Nobody buys the actual Kinect for Windows." }, { "start": 1904.16, "end": 1907, "text": " But don't you think there's also, for Microsoft, there's a bit of a conflict because it's like" }, { "start": 1907, "end": 1909, "text": " they spent money." }, { "start": 1909, "end": 1914.84, "text": " Well, they don't own the company that made the Kinect technology." }, { "start": 1914.84, "end": 1916.8, "text": " Is the new one all of that?" }, { "start": 1916.8, "end": 1917.8, "text": " It's in-house." }, { "start": 1917.8, "end": 1918.8, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1918.8, "end": 1921, "text": " Microsoft loves to tell me about their Kinect back." }, { "start": 1921, "end": 1922, "text": " So here's the thing." }, { "start": 1922, "end": 1923, "text": " So, okay." }, { "start": 1923, "end": 1927.52, "text": " So don't you think that they want that kind of revolutionary experimentation to basically" }, { "start": 1927.52, "end": 1928.52, "text": " just come from Microsoft?" }, { "start": 1928.52, "end": 1935.36, "text": " I mean, we went to their R&D labs and they're doing all kinds of crazy experiments with" }, { "start": 1935.36, "end": 1936.36, "text": " the Kinect." }, { "start": 1936.36, "end": 1940.52, "text": " Isn't the whole point like they'd rather not have some other company capitalize on all" }, { "start": 1940.52, "end": 1944.6, "text": " of their patented cool technology and make something with it?" }, { "start": 1944.6, "end": 1945.6, "text": " They don't want-" }, { "start": 1945.6, "end": 1946.78, "text": " Because it's a closed system." }, { "start": 1946.78, "end": 1948, "text": " It's not meant to be." }, { "start": 1948, "end": 1950.56, "text": " They clearly never meant it to be something that's like a peripheral." }, { "start": 1950.56, "end": 1951.56, "text": " No, no." }, { "start": 1951.56, "end": 1954.9199999999998, "text": " I mean, like the thing with Kinect, well, they're selling one for Windows." }, { "start": 1954.9199999999998, "end": 1955.96, "text": " They're selling it." }, { "start": 1955.96, "end": 1956.96, "text": " You can buy it." }, { "start": 1956.96, "end": 1957.96, "text": " How much is it?" }, { "start": 1957.96, "end": 1958.96, "text": " Kinect for Windows." }, { "start": 1958.96, "end": 1959.96, "text": " I mean, it's for developers, right?" }, { "start": 1959.96, "end": 1960.96, "text": " For the new one?" }, { "start": 1960.96, "end": 1961.96, "text": " For the new one." }, { "start": 1961.96, "end": 1962.96, "text": " Kinect for Windows." }, { "start": 1962.96, "end": 1963.96, "text": " Wait." }, { "start": 1963.96, "end": 1964.96, "text": " Kinect 2 for Windows." }, { "start": 1964.96, "end": 1965.96, "text": " Well, I don't know if it's Kinect 2, but it's called Kinect for Windows." }, { "start": 1965.96, "end": 1966.96, "text": " But they're not selling it." }, { "start": 1966.96, "end": 1968.52, "text": " But he's saying, are they selling the new generation of Kinect?" }, { "start": 1968.52, "end": 1969.52, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1969.52, "end": 1970.52, "text": " And it's going to cost $400." }, { "start": 1970.52, "end": 1971.52, "text": " But that's the Kinect 2." }, { "start": 1971.52, "end": 1972.52, "text": " Is that what it's called?" }, { "start": 1972.52, "end": 1973.52, "text": " $400." }, { "start": 1973.52, "end": 1974.52, "text": " I don't know if it's called Kinect 2." }, { "start": 1974.52, "end": 1975.52, "text": " $400." }, { "start": 1975.52, "end": 1981, "text": " It's for fun purposes." }, { "start": 1981, "end": 1988.08, "text": " Paul, if I were to make the full argument here, I would tell you that the only people" }, { "start": 1988.08, "end": 1992.24, "text": " who need to buy Kinect for Windows are developers, because the only people in the world who have" }, { "start": 1992.24, "end": 1994.62, "text": " Kinect are the ones with Xbox Ones." }, { "start": 1994.62, "end": 1997.92, "text": " And now, when you develop a thing on Windows, at some point, you're going to be able to" }, { "start": 1997.92, "end": 1999.68, "text": " port those apps to the Xbox." }, { "start": 1999.68, "end": 2002, "text": " But he's saying he wants them to not be ported to the i." }, { "start": 2002, "end": 2004.36, "text": " He's saying they should be open and usable." }, { "start": 2004.36, "end": 2006.04, "text": " It would be nice once you could just port stuff to the Xbox." }, { "start": 2006.04, "end": 2008.8799999999999, "text": " You're going to equip your robot with a Kinect head." }, { "start": 2008.8799999999999, "end": 2009.8799999999999, "text": " You can't do that." }, { "start": 2009.8799999999999, "end": 2011.3999999999999, "text": " You can't port stuff to the Xbox yet." }, { "start": 2011.3999999999999, "end": 2013.28, "text": " I still haven't seen Microsoft." }, { "start": 2013.28, "end": 2017.36, "text": " I just think they're a sinister, hateful company." }, { "start": 2017.36, "end": 2021.6, "text": " And also, they don't understand that people have coffee tables." }, { "start": 2021.6, "end": 2024.1599999999999, "text": " And I have Kinect on my Xbox." }, { "start": 2024.1599999999999, "end": 2026.36, "text": " You're very frustrated with the Xbox." }, { "start": 2026.36, "end": 2027.36, "text": " I'm really frustrated." }, { "start": 2027.36, "end": 2028.36, "text": " I will say this." }, { "start": 2028.36, "end": 2031, "text": " The Kinect, it doesn't work very well." }, { "start": 2031, "end": 2034.8, "text": " The need to place- Have you ever gotten the Xbox On to work?" }, { "start": 2034.8, "end": 2035.8, "text": " Always on the third time." }, { "start": 2035.8, "end": 2036.8, "text": " I can't get it to work." }, { "start": 2036.8, "end": 2037.8, "text": " Yeah, once or twice." }, { "start": 2037.8, "end": 2038.8, "text": " You have to do it twice at least." }, { "start": 2038.8, "end": 2039.8, "text": " Okay, hold on." }, { "start": 2039.8, "end": 2044.56, "text": " The Kinect, the biggest problem for me, okay, number one, the Xbox One is huge." }, { "start": 2044.56, "end": 2047.6, "text": " It does not fit into the cabinet where I put all of my other components." }, { "start": 2047.6, "end": 2050.24, "text": " It's so big that it's too deep to fit in there." }, { "start": 2050.24, "end": 2051.24, "text": " It's just deep." }, { "start": 2051.24, "end": 2052.36, "text": " And yes, it's huge." }, { "start": 2052.36, "end": 2054.64, "text": " And the Kinect is also huge." }, { "start": 2054.64, "end": 2059.48, "text": " And the way the cable on it is situated, you can't even move the cable to a position you" }, { "start": 2059.48, "end": 2060.48, "text": " need to get to." }, { "start": 2060.48, "end": 2064.16, "text": " It's a really heavy angled plastic piece coming off the back." }, { "start": 2064.16, "end": 2068.88, "text": " So I had to put the Kinect and the Xbox down in a corner of my living room." }, { "start": 2068.88, "end": 2072.2, "text": " And so now the Kinect basically isn't functional unless I want the Kinect to be front and center" }, { "start": 2072.2, "end": 2076.28, "text": " in my living room, which I don't because it's huge and ugly." }, { "start": 2076.28, "end": 2081.6, "text": " I rearranged my living room around the Kinect and got it all set up and stuff like that." }, { "start": 2081.6, "end": 2086.2, "text": " And basically the setup dialogue, the way it does, it's like, okay, where's the floor?" }, { "start": 2086.2, "end": 2087.2, "text": " Where are you?" }, { "start": 2087.2, "end": 2088.2, "text": " And stuff like that." }, { "start": 2088.2, "end": 2089.2, "text": " And like, okay, now tilt it like this." }, { "start": 2089.2, "end": 2090.2, "text": " All right." }, { "start": 2090.2, "end": 2093.4399999999996, "text": " And then you go into the app and it says, your room seems to be cluttered." }, { "start": 2093.4399999999996, "end": 2094.4399999999996, "text": " We can't see you." }, { "start": 2094.4399999999996, "end": 2095.4399999999996, "text": " So I go back to the setup." }, { "start": 2095.4399999999996, "end": 2096.4399999999996, "text": " Is your room cluttered?" }, { "start": 2096.4399999999996, "end": 2100.7999999999997, "text": " I actually had to like, I had to like, I had to tilt it where they told me not to tilt" }, { "start": 2100.7999999999997, "end": 2101.7999999999997, "text": " it." }, { "start": 2101.7999999999997, "end": 2103.7599999999998, "text": " Like I had to be smarter than Kinect to get this set up." }, { "start": 2103.7599999999998, "end": 2104.7599999999998, "text": " And it's like, I can't believe." }, { "start": 2104.7599999999998, "end": 2106.7599999999998, "text": " That should be really easy for me." }, { "start": 2106.7599999999998, "end": 2109.52, "text": " I mean, the Kinect can't do a lot." }, { "start": 2109.52, "end": 2111.74, "text": " So I just love motion gaming." }, { "start": 2111.74, "end": 2113.12, "text": " I love these." }, { "start": 2113.12, "end": 2116.08, "text": " There's so much possibility and opportunity here." }, { "start": 2116.08, "end": 2120.2, "text": " And I think Sony gave up and I'm a little mad at them for that." }, { "start": 2120.2, "end": 2121.84, "text": " I wrote about that at E3." }, { "start": 2121.84, "end": 2123.64, "text": " And Microsoft was my last hope." }, { "start": 2123.64, "end": 2124.64, "text": " And I think-" }, { "start": 2124.64, "end": 2126.64, "text": " I mean, Apple just bought PrimeSense." }, { "start": 2126.64, "end": 2128.12, "text": " Oh, well, that's exciting to me." }, { "start": 2128.12, "end": 2130.7599999999998, "text": " I think the Kinect doesn't work very well." }, { "start": 2130.7599999999998, "end": 2137.08, "text": " And I think Microsoft is sinister in the way that it has treated developers." }, { "start": 2137.08, "end": 2138.08, "text": " And I hate that plug." }, { "start": 2138.08, "end": 2139.08, "text": " A sinister Microsoft plot." }, { "start": 2139.08, "end": 2140.08, "text": " I hate that plug." }, { "start": 2140.08, "end": 2141.64, "text": " Wait, well, that's just a plug though." }, { "start": 2141.64, "end": 2142.64, "text": " I mean like-" }, { "start": 2142.64, "end": 2143.64, "text": " Wow." }, { "start": 2143.64, "end": 2144.64, "text": " It needs a lot." }, { "start": 2144.64, "end": 2145.64, "text": " It needs a lot." }, { "start": 2145.64, "end": 2146.64, "text": " It needs a lot." }, { "start": 2146.64, "end": 2147.64, "text": " It needs a lot." }, { "start": 2147.64, "end": 2148.64, "text": " It needs a lot." }, { "start": 2148.64, "end": 2149.64, "text": " But just think of how much happened." }, { "start": 2149.64, "end": 2150.64, "text": " But you can buy it with the regular plug." }, { "start": 2150.64, "end": 2151.64, "text": " All right, listen." }, { "start": 2151.64, "end": 2152.64, "text": " Can we-" }, { "start": 2152.64, "end": 2155.7599999999998, "text": " What 12-year-old kid is going to get their parents to pay $400?" }, { "start": 2155.7599999999998, "end": 2156.8799999999997, "text": " This is like a problem." }, { "start": 2156.8799999999997, "end": 2157.8799999999997, "text": " This is such a-" }, { "start": 2157.8799999999997, "end": 2158.8799999999997, "text": " It's such a weird problem." }, { "start": 2158.8799999999997, "end": 2160.6, "text": " Such a beyond 1% problem." }, { "start": 2160.6, "end": 2161.6, "text": " Like I-" }, { "start": 2161.6, "end": 2162.6, "text": " No, no, no, no, no, no." }, { "start": 2162.6, "end": 2166.7, "text": " If you buy an iPhone, you can get Xcode for free and you can make iPhone apps." }, { "start": 2166.7, "end": 2172.16, "text": " If you bought an Xbox Kinect, you can plug that in a computer and you can make for free" }, { "start": 2172.16, "end": 2175.68, "text": " apps, all the libraries are open source because cool people made them." }, { "start": 2175.68, "end": 2177.7999999999997, "text": " You could have a 12-year-old make a Kinect app." }, { "start": 2177.7999999999997, "end": 2180.44, "text": " So what you're saying is you're mad because Microsoft isn't more like Apple." }, { "start": 2180.44, "end": 2181.44, "text": " No." }, { "start": 2181.44, "end": 2182.44, "text": " Really?" }, { "start": 2182.44, "end": 2183.8799999999997, "text": " I mean, well, I mean, that's the argument." }, { "start": 2183.8799999999997, "end": 2187.68, "text": " I'm mad because Microsoft is squelching innovation." }, { "start": 2187.68, "end": 2188.68, "text": " I really think that-" }, { "start": 2188.68, "end": 2190.04, "text": " Well, I think they're interested in their own innovation." }, { "start": 2190.04, "end": 2191.04, "text": " I think that's the difference." }, { "start": 2191.04, "end": 2192.12, "text": " And they never deliver their innovation." }, { "start": 2192.12, "end": 2195.22, "text": " There's one Kinect app right now and it sucks." }, { "start": 2195.22, "end": 2196.8399999999997, "text": " I don't disagree that, well-" }, { "start": 2196.8399999999997, "end": 2197.8399999999997, "text": " It's in pre-season." }, { "start": 2197.8399999999997, "end": 2199.44, "text": " I'll say this." }, { "start": 2199.44, "end": 2200.44, "text": " I think the Xbox One-" }, { "start": 2200.44, "end": 2201.44, "text": " You're talking about Kinect Sports?" }, { "start": 2201.44, "end": 2202.44, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2202.44, "end": 2206.8, "text": " I think the Xbox One has some pretty ambitious goals." }, { "start": 2206.8, "end": 2208.8, "text": " It just hasn't realized them at its launch." }, { "start": 2208.8, "end": 2209.8, "text": " Let me just say that." }, { "start": 2209.8, "end": 2210.8, "text": " And you know what?" }, { "start": 2210.8, "end": 2211.8, "text": " If you look at the numbers, right?" }, { "start": 2211.8, "end": 2217.12, "text": " The PS4 is like every couple of days somebody's like, we sold a million, we sold two million." }, { "start": 2217.12, "end": 2222.4, "text": " And Microsoft's response is like, over one billion zombies have been killed." }, { "start": 2222.4, "end": 2224.28, "text": " That doesn't make any sense at all." }, { "start": 2224.28, "end": 2230.96, "text": " On that note, I will say that in Dead Rising 3 where the zombies are being killed, I do" }, { "start": 2230.96, "end": 2235.04, "text": " actually use a function of the Kinect, which I never thought, which is like trying to attract" }, { "start": 2235.04, "end": 2237.32, "text": " zombies by screaming over here." }, { "start": 2237.32, "end": 2239.76, "text": " But it's weird to actually-" }, { "start": 2239.76, "end": 2240.76, "text": " That's great." }, { "start": 2240.76, "end": 2241.76, "text": " It's weird to interact with it in that way." }, { "start": 2241.76, "end": 2243.4, "text": " It's actually pretty fascinating." }, { "start": 2243.4, "end": 2247.7200000000003, "text": " And despite it being really buggy, the smart glass app component does some really interesting" }, { "start": 2247.7200000000003, "end": 2248.7200000000003, "text": " stuff." }, { "start": 2248.7200000000003, "end": 2249.7200000000003, "text": " It does." }, { "start": 2249.7200000000003, "end": 2251.36, "text": " And I have to say, I mean, it's very buggy and they need to work it out because it doesn't" }, { "start": 2251.36, "end": 2253.08, "text": " connect properly." }, { "start": 2253.08, "end": 2254.08, "text": " Connect properly." }, { "start": 2254.08, "end": 2255.44, "text": " No, it doesn't." }, { "start": 2255.44, "end": 2256.6, "text": " But they're very ambitious." }, { "start": 2256.6, "end": 2259.4, "text": " I feel like the PS4 is far less ambitious." }, { "start": 2259.4, "end": 2260.4, "text": " Yes, absolutely." }, { "start": 2260.4, "end": 2261.4, "text": " And it kind of bugs me." }, { "start": 2261.4, "end": 2263.52, "text": " I think it's very capable and very impressive." }, { "start": 2263.52, "end": 2264.52, "text": " They played it super safe." }, { "start": 2264.52, "end": 2265.52, "text": " But it's just so..." }, { "start": 2265.52, "end": 2268.92, "text": " I mean, I think Microsoft probably bit off more than they could chew, but it's like Sony" }, { "start": 2268.92, "end": 2271.08, "text": " didn't bite off enough." }, { "start": 2271.08, "end": 2274.84, "text": " Microsoft is just deluded in thinking that innovation comes from inside of Microsoft." }, { "start": 2274.84, "end": 2278.2000000000003, "text": " All right, we have to, again, we have to catch a train." }, { "start": 2278.2000000000003, "end": 2279.2000000000003, "text": " What's our next topic?" }, { "start": 2279.2000000000003, "end": 2280.2000000000003, "text": " Sorry, Paul." }, { "start": 2280.2000000000003, "end": 2281.2000000000003, "text": " Applebot Topsy." }, { "start": 2281.2000000000003, "end": 2282.2000000000003, "text": " Which I know you're super hot at." }, { "start": 2282.2000000000003, "end": 2283.96, "text": " I appreciate you guys letting me vent." }, { "start": 2283.96, "end": 2284.96, "text": " We love that." }, { "start": 2284.96, "end": 2285.96, "text": " I unboxed my Xbox One-" }, { "start": 2285.96, "end": 2286.96, "text": " To a degree." }, { "start": 2286.96, "end": 2287.96, "text": " And I was pissed." }, { "start": 2287.96, "end": 2288.96, "text": " To a degree." }, { "start": 2288.96, "end": 2289.96, "text": " Well, no, it's..." }, { "start": 2289.96, "end": 2290.96, "text": " Applebot, Applebot, Applebot Topsy." }, { "start": 2290.96, "end": 2291.96, "text": " Well, no, you can..." }, { "start": 2291.96, "end": 2292.96, "text": " I mean, I just..." }, { "start": 2292.96, "end": 2293.96, "text": " You were into it." }, { "start": 2293.96, "end": 2294.96, "text": " No, I'm not that into it." }, { "start": 2294.96, "end": 2295.96, "text": " There's another..." }, { "start": 2295.96, "end": 2296.96, "text": " I just think..." }, { "start": 2296.96, "end": 2297.96, "text": " I mean, it's not that into it." }, { "start": 2297.96, "end": 2302.4, "text": " My only comment on this is nobody really knows why." }, { "start": 2302.4, "end": 2304.44, "text": " Apple does acquire companies all the time." }, { "start": 2304.44, "end": 2308.36, "text": " Topsy was a Twitter search and analytics firm." }, { "start": 2308.36, "end": 2310, "text": " People are like, this is the TV." }, { "start": 2310, "end": 2311.8, "text": " They're gonna integrate Twitter stuff with TV." }, { "start": 2311.8, "end": 2312.8, "text": " And it's like..." }, { "start": 2312.8, "end": 2313.8, "text": " It's the TV." }, { "start": 2313.8, "end": 2314.8, "text": " Yeah, I don't really know." }, { "start": 2314.8, "end": 2315.8, "text": " Every time something happens..." }, { "start": 2315.8, "end": 2316.8, "text": " Don't you think it's more like improved Siri search?" }, { "start": 2316.8, "end": 2321.7200000000003, "text": " I honestly feel like this is maybe part of Apple's play to, at some point, launch a search" }, { "start": 2321.7200000000003, "end": 2323, "text": " engine of its own." }, { "start": 2323, "end": 2329.04, "text": " Because at the end of the day, when you look at their biggest competitors, Google has a" }, { "start": 2329.04, "end": 2331.1600000000003, "text": " search engine, which people use a ton." }, { "start": 2331.1600000000003, "end": 2335.5600000000004, "text": " Bing, it may not be the most popular search engine, but it has given Google some competition." }, { "start": 2335.5600000000004, "end": 2339.9, "text": " And it is now the thing that you get on a Windows phone and on a Windows laptop and" }, { "start": 2339.9, "end": 2340.9, "text": " on a..." }, { "start": 2340.9, "end": 2344.04, "text": " Microsoft is responsible for a lot of searches." }, { "start": 2344.04, "end": 2348.2, "text": " If you think about how many searches happen through the iOS browser, through Safari and" }, { "start": 2348.2, "end": 2352.6, "text": " through Siri, they're making a lot of searches and they should probably own a little more" }, { "start": 2352.6, "end": 2353.6, "text": " of that process." }, { "start": 2353.6, "end": 2359.32, "text": " Well, I think that Apple, as evidenced by the maps thing and clearly their desire to" }, { "start": 2359.32, "end": 2364.7599999999998, "text": " control end to end the experience for users, to me, it could be the first step or part..." }, { "start": 2364.7599999999998, "end": 2368.08, "text": " Not the first step, but part of that process of creating some kind of search engine." }, { "start": 2368.08, "end": 2372.18, "text": " And maybe in our new world, you start to prioritize things like Twitter search much higher than" }, { "start": 2372.18, "end": 2374.48, "text": " you would have a few years ago." }, { "start": 2374.48, "end": 2375.48, "text": " Why?" }, { "start": 2375.48, "end": 2379.3999999999996, "text": " Well, because Twitter is increasingly an important part of how people get information." }, { "start": 2379.3999999999996, "end": 2380.3999999999996, "text": " No, I agree with that." }, { "start": 2380.3999999999996, "end": 2381.3999999999996, "text": " But I mean, I just think..." }, { "start": 2381.3999999999996, "end": 2382.3999999999996, "text": " You're like, why?" }, { "start": 2382.3999999999996, "end": 2385.2, "text": " And then I'm like, one minor point, you're like, well, that is true." }, { "start": 2385.2, "end": 2387.04, "text": " No, but Twitter is a vector." }, { "start": 2387.04, "end": 2388.48, "text": " It's never the..." }, { "start": 2388.48, "end": 2391.7599999999998, "text": " It's like 99% of the time I search for something and I land in Wikipedia." }, { "start": 2391.7599999999998, "end": 2392.7599999999998, "text": " Yeah, Google..." }, { "start": 2392.7599999999998, "end": 2395.7599999999998, "text": " Apple would be better off buying Wikipedia than Twitter." }, { "start": 2395.7599999999998, "end": 2396.7599999999998, "text": " Well, yeah." }, { "start": 2396.7599999999998, "end": 2397.7599999999998, "text": " You know, like..." }, { "start": 2397.7599999999998, "end": 2401.56, "text": " But if you could really make that information useful somehow, potentially..." }, { "start": 2401.56, "end": 2407, "text": " A lot of the information you are looking for, like when you're talking to Siri on your phone," }, { "start": 2407, "end": 2410.14, "text": " is not like big facts like how are giraffes made?" }, { "start": 2410.14, "end": 2411.14, "text": " It's like..." }, { "start": 2411.14, "end": 2412.14, "text": " How are giraffes made?" }, { "start": 2412.14, "end": 2413.14, "text": " Wait, excuse me." }, { "start": 2413.14, "end": 2414.14, "text": " Hang on one second." }, { "start": 2414.14, "end": 2417.44, "text": " Hang on also." }, { "start": 2417.44, "end": 2419.7599999999998, "text": " How are giraffes made?" }, { "start": 2419.7599999999998, "end": 2421.08, "text": " How are giraffes made?" }, { "start": 2421.08, "end": 2423.12, "text": " No, how are giraffes mate is what I got." }, { "start": 2423.12, "end": 2424.12, "text": " I got it." }, { "start": 2424.12, "end": 2425.12, "text": " Made right here." }, { "start": 2425.12, "end": 2426.12, "text": " Boom." }, { "start": 2426.12, "end": 2427.12, "text": " What does it say?" }, { "start": 2427.12, "end": 2429.36, "text": " Well, I have the giraffe..." }, { "start": 2429.36, "end": 2433.1600000000003, "text": " By the way, I got what must be the weirdest eHow article of all time." }, { "start": 2433.1600000000003, "end": 2435.1600000000003, "text": " Is it how are giraffes made?" }, { "start": 2435.1600000000003, "end": 2436.1600000000003, "text": " How are giraffes made?" }, { "start": 2436.1600000000003, "end": 2437.96, "text": " Here's how to make a balloon giraffe." }, { "start": 2437.96, "end": 2439.96, "text": " Oh, what's this, guys?" }, { "start": 2439.96, "end": 2440.96, "text": " Can you get it?" }, { "start": 2440.96, "end": 2441.96, "text": " How are giraffes made?" }, { "start": 2441.96, "end": 2442.96, "text": " Can you open that up?" }, { "start": 2442.96, "end": 2443.96, "text": " This is terrible." }, { "start": 2443.96, "end": 2444.96, "text": " Oh, it's Wikipedia." }, { "start": 2444.96, "end": 2445.96, "text": " We've done a lot." }, { "start": 2445.96, "end": 2446.96, "text": " Do you know how giraffes are made, though, Paul?" }, { "start": 2446.96, "end": 2450.4, "text": " I'm curious because I'm worried that if you don't know how they're made, we have real" }, { "start": 2450.4, "end": 2451.4, "text": " problems." }, { "start": 2451.4, "end": 2452.6, "text": " When a daddy giraffe loves a mommy giraffe." }, { "start": 2452.6, "end": 2453.6, "text": " That's correct." }, { "start": 2453.6, "end": 2454.6, "text": " Yeah, they adopt." }, { "start": 2454.6, "end": 2455.6, "text": " Yeah, they adopt." }, { "start": 2455.6, "end": 2457.1600000000003, "text": " Wow, this is really graphic." }, { "start": 2457.1600000000003, "end": 2459.1600000000003, "text": " This is really graphic." }, { "start": 2459.16, "end": 2460.8399999999997, "text": " But a lot of what you're asking..." }, { "start": 2460.8399999999997, "end": 2461.8399999999997, "text": " Really?" }, { "start": 2461.8399999999997, "end": 2462.8399999999997, "text": " We got to see a bro." }, { "start": 2462.8399999999997, "end": 2466.96, "text": " I mean, look, can I just say the following sentence, which is scientific?" }, { "start": 2466.96, "end": 2471.56, "text": " When the female releases urine, the male tastes the urine to see if she's ready to mate." }, { "start": 2471.56, "end": 2472.56, "text": " Wow." }, { "start": 2472.56, "end": 2473.56, "text": " Giraffes, everybody." }, { "start": 2473.56, "end": 2476.7999999999997, "text": " Got to say, giraffes and I have a lot in common." }, { "start": 2476.7999999999997, "end": 2479.2, "text": " That's why I don't ask my phone that kind of thing." }, { "start": 2479.2, "end": 2481.2799999999997, "text": " But I do..." }, { "start": 2481.2799999999997, "end": 2484.04, "text": " That's why you don't want to know that information." }, { "start": 2484.04, "end": 2485.04, "text": " This is like..." }, { "start": 2485.04, "end": 2490.96, "text": " The kind of level of learning that is happening on this Verge cast is encyclopedic in scale." }, { "start": 2490.96, "end": 2493.08, "text": " I'm not going to look at giraffes the same." }, { "start": 2493.08, "end": 2495, "text": " Yeah, no, I'm sure you're not." }, { "start": 2495, "end": 2496, "text": " They're all in the golden showers." }, { "start": 2496, "end": 2497, "text": " Which way were you looking at them already?" }, { "start": 2497, "end": 2499, "text": " All giraffes are into pee stuff." }, { "start": 2499, "end": 2501, "text": " They're into urine play." }, { "start": 2501, "end": 2502, "text": " Disgusting." }, { "start": 2502, "end": 2505.24, "text": " It's time to get on this." }, { "start": 2505.24, "end": 2506.56, "text": " Like 50 Shades of..." }, { "start": 2506.56, "end": 2507.56, "text": " What's their family?" }, { "start": 2507.56, "end": 2513.7599999999998, "text": " I'm going to say that there's a lot of information on Twitter that is more relevant to me in" }, { "start": 2513.76, "end": 2516.36, "text": " the moment that I'm talking to Siri about stuff." }, { "start": 2516.36, "end": 2517.36, "text": " Yes, exactly." }, { "start": 2517.36, "end": 2518.36, "text": " Of course." }, { "start": 2518.36, "end": 2520.48, "text": " That's what Apple knows too and that's why they bought it." }, { "start": 2520.48, "end": 2521.48, "text": " Topsy-daisy." }, { "start": 2521.48, "end": 2522.48, "text": " I'm just trying to find the family." }, { "start": 2522.48, "end": 2524.1200000000003, "text": " I wonder what family giraffes are in." }, { "start": 2524.1200000000003, "end": 2525.1200000000003, "text": " Does anybody know?" }, { "start": 2525.1200000000003, "end": 2526.1200000000003, "text": " I should know this." }, { "start": 2526.1200000000003, "end": 2527.1200000000003, "text": " Mammal?" }, { "start": 2527.1200000000003, "end": 2528.1200000000003, "text": " Giraffidae." }, { "start": 2528.1200000000003, "end": 2529.1200000000003, "text": " There's got to be some kind of special..." }, { "start": 2529.1200000000003, "end": 2530.1200000000003, "text": " Is that a smaller one?" }, { "start": 2530.1200000000003, "end": 2531.1200000000003, "text": " Yeah, there's got to be some sort of..." }, { "start": 2531.1200000000003, "end": 2532.1200000000003, "text": " Isn't that the kingdom?" }, { "start": 2532.1200000000003, "end": 2534.92, "text": " So we're all just doing giraffe stuff on the internet right now?" }, { "start": 2534.92, "end": 2535.92, "text": " Oh, it's a..." }, { "start": 2535.92, "end": 2538.1600000000003, "text": " Well, the phylum is Cordata." }, { "start": 2538.1600000000003, "end": 2539.1600000000003, "text": " This is the worst." }, { "start": 2539.1600000000003, "end": 2540.1600000000003, "text": " Or Chordata." }, { "start": 2540.1600000000003, "end": 2541.1600000000003, "text": " Chordata?" }, { "start": 2541.1600000000003, "end": 2542.1600000000003, "text": " Could be Cordata." }, { "start": 2542.1600000000003, "end": 2543.1600000000003, "text": " It's Cordata." }, { "start": 2543.16, "end": 2544.16, "text": " Well, I don't know." }, { "start": 2544.16, "end": 2546.72, "text": " You don't know how that C-H is pronounced, do you?" }, { "start": 2546.72, "end": 2547.72, "text": " The family is Giraffidae." }, { "start": 2547.72, "end": 2548.72, "text": " Are you a scientist?" }, { "start": 2548.72, "end": 2550.72, "text": " I play one occasionally." }, { "start": 2550.72, "end": 2553.72, "text": " Ooh, they're even toad ungulates." }, { "start": 2553.72, "end": 2555.72, "text": " Fifty Shades of Giraffidae is what I want." }, { "start": 2555.72, "end": 2556.72, "text": " All right, we're stopping this." }, { "start": 2556.72, "end": 2559.92, "text": " Fifty Shades of Giraffidae was the joke that I wanted to make and I've made it." }, { "start": 2559.92, "end": 2562.08, "text": " And it rhymes with gray, so that's perfect." }, { "start": 2562.08, "end": 2563.08, "text": " Moving on." }, { "start": 2563.08, "end": 2564.08, "text": " Giraffidae?" }, { "start": 2564.08, "end": 2565.08, "text": " There's one more story." }, { "start": 2565.08, "end": 2566.08, "text": " Gray?" }, { "start": 2566.08, "end": 2567.08, "text": " Which we should talk about." }, { "start": 2567.08, "end": 2571.3999999999996, "text": " Kind of almost sounds like an expanded gray when you think about it." }, { "start": 2571.3999999999996, "end": 2572.3999999999996, "text": " Which is healthcare." }, { "start": 2572.4, "end": 2573.4, "text": " Which is the website." }, { "start": 2573.4, "end": 2574.4, "text": " Healthcare." }, { "start": 2574.4, "end": 2575.4, "text": " The healthcare." }, { "start": 2575.4, "end": 2576.4, "text": " Which is the website?" }, { "start": 2576.4, "end": 2577.4, "text": " The website is going to be." }, { "start": 2577.4, "end": 2578.4, "text": " Healthcare.gov." }, { "start": 2578.4, "end": 2579.4, "text": " Healthcare.gov." }, { "start": 2579.4, "end": 2580.4, "text": " Which we have a big story on, which is why we should talk about it." }, { "start": 2580.4, "end": 2581.4, "text": " Healthcare.gov is back." }, { "start": 2581.4, "end": 2582.4, "text": " Let me ask you something." }, { "start": 2582.4, "end": 2583.4, "text": " It's not back." }, { "start": 2583.4, "end": 2584.4, "text": " It's sort of back." }, { "start": 2584.4, "end": 2585.4, "text": " It's sort of back." }, { "start": 2585.4, "end": 2586.4, "text": " 80% of users." }, { "start": 2586.4, "end": 2587.4, "text": " Let me ask you a question." }, { "start": 2587.4, "end": 2590.8, "text": " Does anybody think that there was a global conspiracy to destroy the website of healthcare.gov?" }, { "start": 2590.8, "end": 2593.8, "text": " Or did the global conspiracy come completely from within our US government?" }, { "start": 2593.8, "end": 2594.8, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2594.8, "end": 2596.36, "text": " And the conspiracy was they're really bad at making things." }, { "start": 2596.36, "end": 2598.32, "text": " Yeah, it's a global conspiracy of incompetent people." }, { "start": 2598.32, "end": 2600.02, "text": " I mean, it is kind of insane." }, { "start": 2600.02, "end": 2602.7599999999998, "text": " When you look at the data, by the way, if you haven't read this, Adrian Jeffries wrote" }, { "start": 2602.7599999999998, "end": 2606.56, "text": " this incredible, and we have a video too, this incredible report about the failings" }, { "start": 2606.56, "end": 2611.44, "text": " of healthcare.gov and sort of what we learned from it." }, { "start": 2611.44, "end": 2617.8, "text": " It's incredible how exactly like the US government, the process of building healthcare.gov seems" }, { "start": 2617.8, "end": 2619.32, "text": " like." }, { "start": 2619.32, "end": 2621.32, "text": " It's like 32 contractors." }, { "start": 2621.32, "end": 2622.32, "text": " No, 55." }, { "start": 2622.32, "end": 2628.88, "text": " Wait, oh, 55 contractors each working on some little part in some sort of insane Kafka-like" }, { "start": 2628.88, "end": 2636.28, "text": " bureaucratic hell world where nobody can talk to anybody and nobody knows what the other" }, { "start": 2636.28, "end": 2637.28, "text": " person is doing." }, { "start": 2637.28, "end": 2640.88, "text": " And it's like, yeah, this is how you make something really horrible that breaks." }, { "start": 2640.88, "end": 2644.6400000000003, "text": " Like have 55 different people from 55 different companies working on it." }, { "start": 2644.6400000000003, "end": 2646.84, "text": " At the end, everybody knew it was going to break and they launched it anyway." }, { "start": 2646.84, "end": 2648.96, "text": " I mean, so the piece is great." }, { "start": 2648.96, "end": 2655.6800000000003, "text": " And what's interesting about it is the argument is insane if you just look at how people are" }, { "start": 2655.6800000000003, "end": 2656.6800000000003, "text": " arguing about it." }, { "start": 2656.6800000000003, "end": 2658.04, "text": " And it highlights the fact that our government-" }, { "start": 2658.04, "end": 2660.56, "text": " You mean that we have to repeal Obamacare because the website broke?" }, { "start": 2660.56, "end": 2661.56, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2661.56, "end": 2662.56, "text": " No, that's an insane argument, of course." }, { "start": 2662.56, "end": 2664.56, "text": " Oh boy, oh boy, we're going down." }, { "start": 2664.56, "end": 2665.56, "text": " No, no, no." }, { "start": 2665.56, "end": 2666.56, "text": " No, no, fine." }, { "start": 2666.56, "end": 2672.72, "text": " But that argument is they are using the dysfunction of our government as a whole to make an argument" }, { "start": 2672.72, "end": 2674.2, "text": " that has nothing to do with it." }, { "start": 2674.2, "end": 2675.68, "text": " Right, but they're saying-" }, { "start": 2675.68, "end": 2677.2799999999997, "text": " Or wait, or does it?" }, { "start": 2677.2799999999997, "end": 2679.24, "text": " But the argument is very simply that-" }, { "start": 2679.24, "end": 2680.52, "text": " That argument actually makes sense." }, { "start": 2680.52, "end": 2681.52, "text": " Well, it's weird." }, { "start": 2681.52, "end": 2682.7599999999998, "text": " Maybe we should repeal Obamacare." }, { "start": 2682.7599999999998, "end": 2683.7599999999998, "text": " Probably." }, { "start": 2683.7599999999998, "end": 2684.7599999999998, "text": " I'm going to think about it." }, { "start": 2684.7599999999998, "end": 2687.8, "text": " If this is what they do with a website, what are they going to do with my healthcare?" }, { "start": 2687.8, "end": 2688.8, "text": " That's exactly the argument." }, { "start": 2688.8, "end": 2689.8, "text": " That's exactly the argument." }, { "start": 2689.8, "end": 2690.8, "text": " That's true." }, { "start": 2690.8, "end": 2697.8, "text": " No, but Obamacare and healthcare.gov are very interesting because it's like this huge, massive" }, { "start": 2697.8, "end": 2699.4, "text": " government policy." }, { "start": 2699.4, "end": 2703.04, "text": " And for the first time ever, the only way that it exists for people is the internet." }, { "start": 2703.04, "end": 2704.04, "text": " Yeah, on the web." }, { "start": 2704.04, "end": 2705.04, "text": " It is an IT policy." }, { "start": 2705.04, "end": 2706.04, "text": " On the worldwide web." }, { "start": 2706.04, "end": 2707.04, "text": " I think-" }, { "start": 2707.04, "end": 2709.32, "text": " And the government doesn't know what to do about that." }, { "start": 2709.32, "end": 2711.1200000000003, "text": " It doesn't know how to build that sort of thing." }, { "start": 2711.1200000000003, "end": 2712.1200000000003, "text": " Right, and also-" }, { "start": 2712.1200000000003, "end": 2714.76, "text": " It knows how to ask to build ships and missiles and-" }, { "start": 2714.76, "end": 2718.5200000000004, "text": " But not only that, but it doesn't know how to build them and that's evidenced by-" }, { "start": 2718.5200000000004, "end": 2719.5200000000004, "text": " You wouldn't have launched it." }, { "start": 2719.5200000000004, "end": 2722.0400000000004, "text": " What you would have done if you knew how to build them is you would have, first off, you" }, { "start": 2722.0400000000004, "end": 2724.76, "text": " would have never started the project the way they started it, but then you would have tested," }, { "start": 2724.76, "end": 2728.48, "text": " tested, tested and made sure like anybody does when they make something that it's going" }, { "start": 2728.48, "end": 2730.0400000000004, "text": " to be the product you think it's going to be." }, { "start": 2730.0400000000004, "end": 2731.6000000000004, "text": " So clearly they didn't do that." }, { "start": 2731.6000000000004, "end": 2738.32, "text": " But what's also interesting is that we don't know how to, as a people and as a government," }, { "start": 2738.32, "end": 2742.6800000000003, "text": " process the failure of a part of the government like this." }, { "start": 2742.68, "end": 2745.52, "text": " And the reaction is like, oh my God, like everything is messed up." }, { "start": 2745.52, "end": 2748.2799999999997, "text": " Why would we want these people to be responsible for healthcare?" }, { "start": 2748.2799999999997, "end": 2750.3999999999996, "text": " But it's like, I don't know, we've had it." }, { "start": 2750.3999999999996, "end": 2752.6, "text": " I want to get, I give it the benefit of the doubt." }, { "start": 2752.6, "end": 2757.4199999999996, "text": " I would at least like to see if the website were functioning 100% correctly, what would" }, { "start": 2757.4199999999996, "end": 2758.4199999999996, "text": " it be like?" }, { "start": 2758.4199999999996, "end": 2759.48, "text": " I'd just like to know." }, { "start": 2759.48, "end": 2760.48, "text": " But then I also think-" }, { "start": 2760.48, "end": 2761.48, "text": " But it's not even that." }, { "start": 2761.48, "end": 2767.9199999999996, "text": " Like I think it's Oregon contracted with Oracle to build their state exchange and that like" }, { "start": 2767.9199999999996, "end": 2769.2799999999997, "text": " just didn't work." }, { "start": 2769.2799999999997, "end": 2771.44, "text": " Like there's, there's elements of this where-" }, { "start": 2771.44, "end": 2774.2000000000003, "text": " You're saying that it's a failed policy." }, { "start": 2774.2000000000003, "end": 2775.92, "text": " No, maybe not the policy." }, { "start": 2775.92, "end": 2780.88, "text": " I'm saying that we, the government is good at being like, you contractor make a thing" }, { "start": 2780.88, "end": 2783.56, "text": " and the contractor maybe can make it or not." }, { "start": 2783.56, "end": 2784.68, "text": " It's usually a rocket though." }, { "start": 2784.68, "end": 2785.68, "text": " But usually-" }, { "start": 2785.68, "end": 2788.64, "text": " Like nine times out of 10 when they say make a thing, it's a rocket." }, { "start": 2788.64, "end": 2792.56, "text": " How many times, like how many military projects are like way over budget or never hit the" }, { "start": 2792.56, "end": 2796.4, "text": " deadline or like we canceled at the end after spending all this money and you can't-" }, { "start": 2796.4, "end": 2797.44, "text": " Probably most." }, { "start": 2797.44, "end": 2802.96, "text": " If the government wants to be more responsive or effective, it can't treat this that same" }, { "start": 2802.96, "end": 2803.96, "text": " way." }, { "start": 2803.96, "end": 2804.96, "text": " It has to actually be-" }, { "start": 2804.96, "end": 2809.52, "text": " In some weird way, I almost feel like what we needed to do was contract this out to a" }, { "start": 2809.52, "end": 2814.96, "text": " private, but not done in the way that the government did it, but like find like the" }, { "start": 2814.96, "end": 2817, "text": " ideal person to build it." }, { "start": 2817, "end": 2820.92, "text": " The single company that could make something of that size and have them go build it." }, { "start": 2820.92, "end": 2822.2000000000003, "text": " Isn't that what they should have done?" }, { "start": 2822.2000000000003, "end": 2826.7200000000003, "text": " Just had people bid on the one, on the project of you're going to make the website that does" }, { "start": 2826.72, "end": 2827.72, "text": " all this stuff." }, { "start": 2827.72, "end": 2829.9599999999996, "text": " I mean, that's kind of sort of what they did." }, { "start": 2829.9599999999996, "end": 2830.9599999999996, "text": " Right?" }, { "start": 2830.9599999999996, "end": 2831.9599999999996, "text": " But they did it-" }, { "start": 2831.9599999999996, "end": 2832.9599999999996, "text": " But they end up with 55 different contractors." }, { "start": 2832.9599999999996, "end": 2836.8799999999997, "text": " They end up with 55 different, and they did it that, you should watch Adrian's video because" }, { "start": 2836.8799999999997, "end": 2840.2799999999997, "text": " it's amazing, but they did it five years before the ACA was like passed." }, { "start": 2840.2799999999997, "end": 2841.2799999999997, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 2841.2799999999997, "end": 2844.9199999999996, "text": " So they have these indefinite, they're called IDIQ contracts." }, { "start": 2844.9199999999996, "end": 2846.9199999999996, "text": " Yeah, the IDIQ is totally amazing." }, { "start": 2846.9199999999996, "end": 2848.48, "text": " I know the second one was indefinite quantity." }, { "start": 2848.48, "end": 2849.64, "text": " I don't know what the D stands for right now, but-" }, { "start": 2849.64, "end": 2854.8799999999997, "text": " And I think it's indefinite delivery, deliverable indefinite quantity." }, { "start": 2854.8799999999997, "end": 2855.8799999999997, "text": " Yeah, it's something insane." }, { "start": 2855.88, "end": 2857.2000000000003, "text": " Which is like, we don't know we're making it." }, { "start": 2857.2000000000003, "end": 2859.6, "text": " We don't know how long it's going to take and how much we're going to make." }, { "start": 2859.6, "end": 2860.6, "text": " But you got the contract, right?" }, { "start": 2860.6, "end": 2861.6, "text": " But we are, we won." }, { "start": 2861.6, "end": 2864.04, "text": " So these guys have it and they don't, they're not incentivized." }, { "start": 2864.04, "end": 2868.2400000000002, "text": " Like everything you could complain about the government doing this, they did those things." }, { "start": 2868.2400000000002, "end": 2869.2400000000002, "text": " Mark Zuckerberg can fix this." }, { "start": 2869.2400000000002, "end": 2872.32, "text": " Like structurally, the things people complain about big government making mistakes were" }, { "start": 2872.32, "end": 2873.84, "text": " all here in play." }, { "start": 2873.84, "end": 2878.12, "text": " Oh, you know, it's like move slow and break things." }, { "start": 2878.12, "end": 2880.12, "text": " And then don't know how they're broken." }, { "start": 2880.12, "end": 2881.12, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2881.12, "end": 2882.12, "text": " It's crazy." }, { "start": 2882.12, "end": 2883.12, "text": " It's only going to get worse." }, { "start": 2883.12, "end": 2887.8399999999997, "text": " But Adrian's point is like, the government has to build more websites." }, { "start": 2887.8399999999997, "end": 2888.8399999999997, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2888.8399999999997, "end": 2890.08, "text": " Well, this is how people interact with each other." }, { "start": 2890.08, "end": 2893.3599999999997, "text": " Have you ever tried to like use their websites for taxes and stuff like that?" }, { "start": 2893.3599999999997, "end": 2894.3599999999997, "text": " No, no, no." }, { "start": 2894.3599999999997, "end": 2895.3599999999997, "text": " It's a classic." }, { "start": 2895.3599999999997, "end": 2899.48, "text": " I mean, even like, you know, look at like the DMV, the New York, New York City DMV site." }, { "start": 2899.48, "end": 2902.64, "text": " I mean, it's a classic, this is a classic joke, right?" }, { "start": 2902.64, "end": 2907.44, "text": " That all of the, you know, the government or, you know, city, federal, whatever, state," }, { "start": 2907.44, "end": 2909.48, "text": " federal, they're like, they're like, yeah." }, { "start": 2909.48, "end": 2910.48, "text": " This is terrible." }, { "start": 2910.48, "end": 2911.48, "text": " This is insane, right?" }, { "start": 2911.48, "end": 2914.92, "text": " You know, at least the healthcare site has a great, great web design." }, { "start": 2914.92, "end": 2916.56, "text": " No, but this is the thing." }, { "start": 2916.56, "end": 2919.32, "text": " You can find stuff on here, but it's crazy to do it." }, { "start": 2919.32, "end": 2920.32, "text": " This is incredible." }, { "start": 2920.32, "end": 2921.32, "text": " We're looking at the New York DMV site." }, { "start": 2921.32, "end": 2924.2400000000002, "text": " You can look at, if you want to look at the New York DMV site, can you just get it up" }, { "start": 2924.2400000000002, "end": 2926.2400000000002, "text": " on the, because I've visited a lot recently." }, { "start": 2926.2400000000002, "end": 2927.96, "text": " This is really one of the better ones." }, { "start": 2927.96, "end": 2932.16, "text": " There, no, but like, scroll down a little bit, just get into the mix here." }, { "start": 2932.16, "end": 2933.8, "text": " It's like, there's just so much going on here." }, { "start": 2933.8, "end": 2938.1, "text": " And I know there has to be a lot, but we have better ways of making websites for lots of" }, { "start": 2938.1, "end": 2939.1, "text": " stuff now." }, { "start": 2939.1, "end": 2940.1, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2940.1, "end": 2943.64, "text": " But the point is that it's always been this running joke, but now it's like, it's not" }, { "start": 2943.64, "end": 2947.4, "text": " just about, I need to renew my license, which is kind of, you can go and do it if you have" }, { "start": 2947.4, "end": 2949, "text": " to, and you're going to do it anyhow." }, { "start": 2949, "end": 2952.4, "text": " And you sort of expect the DMV to be a horrible experience because it's government run." }, { "start": 2952.4, "end": 2958.44, "text": " And but you know, you, you, oh, Illinois, Illinois has branded their DMV cyber drive," }, { "start": 2958.44, "end": 2959.44, "text": " Illinois." }, { "start": 2959.44, "end": 2966.44, "text": " That makes me want to click log on, log on." }, { "start": 2966.44, "end": 2976.2000000000003, "text": " Okay, anyhow, but, but, but now the problem is that, that it's not, the problem is that" }, { "start": 2976.2000000000003, "end": 2980.96, "text": " we now actually need these things to work like increasingly like with healthcare." }, { "start": 2980.96, "end": 2985.64, "text": " I mean, there could be other programs where there are of course now, but in the future" }, { "start": 2985.64, "end": 2989.06, "text": " where we need the government to be ready for technology." }, { "start": 2989.06, "end": 2995.12, "text": " It's the essential joke of all of this is that the government legally required people" }, { "start": 2995.12, "end": 2999.12, "text": " to purchase something and then made it impossible for them to purchase it." }, { "start": 2999.12, "end": 3000.12, "text": " They had no good way to get it to them." }, { "start": 3000.12, "end": 3002.64, "text": " Have you heard about the, the prison glitch?" }, { "start": 3002.64, "end": 3004.64, "text": " This is my favorite blog on all of healthcare.gov." }, { "start": 3004.64, "end": 3010.8399999999997, "text": " It asks you how, how long you've been in prison and then you can't go any further." }, { "start": 3010.8399999999997, "end": 3013.4, "text": " Because it just assumes that you've been in prison." }, { "start": 3013.4, "end": 3021.68, "text": " If you have zero amount of prison, which makes you think about those first five people that" }, { "start": 3021.68, "end": 3025, "text": " did get through it all, they probably need a prison or they lied." }, { "start": 3025, "end": 3028.04, "text": " They were like, just put me through the system." }, { "start": 3028.04, "end": 3034.28, "text": " I will say, so like before all of this went live, I was like, I quit my job at the verge" }, { "start": 3034.28, "end": 3036.36, "text": " and so I needed some healthcare." }, { "start": 3036.36, "end": 3041.16, "text": " So I like looked around and all like all healthcare things are all just scary and terrifying and" }, { "start": 3041.16, "end": 3042.16, "text": " weird." }, { "start": 3042.16, "end": 3045.08, "text": " Then I like accidentally like put my phone number in somewhere and then somebody called" }, { "start": 3045.08, "end": 3047.92, "text": " me and they turned out to be like a healthcare broker." }, { "start": 3047.92, "end": 3049.32, "text": " So I guess they make commission on sales." }, { "start": 3049.32, "end": 3051.76, "text": " Oh, that sounds, she's just talking me through some plans." }, { "start": 3051.76, "end": 3054.16, "text": " All sounded pretty sketchy, but I just bought a plan." }, { "start": 3054.16, "end": 3057.2, "text": " I didn't know you did you really through a healthcare broker." }, { "start": 3057.2, "end": 3059.6, "text": " So what the lesson here is that you can just call Paul." }, { "start": 3059.6, "end": 3066.2799999999997, "text": " Paul will heal if you're nice enough, nice enough on the phone, buy anything that you're" }, { "start": 3066.2799999999997, "end": 3071.14, "text": " selling him, including including health insurance, which he needs." }, { "start": 3071.14, "end": 3072.14, "text": " He needs to stay alive." }, { "start": 3072.14, "end": 3073.3599999999997, "text": " It probably needs to be replaced." }, { "start": 3073.3599999999997, "end": 3074.3599999999997, "text": " Now." }, { "start": 3074.3599999999997, "end": 3076.2799999999997, "text": " I don't know if it's legal, but that doesn't sound right to me." }, { "start": 3076.2799999999997, "end": 3077.72, "text": " I think it's still legal." }, { "start": 3077.72, "end": 3078.72, "text": " People can keep selling." }, { "start": 3078.72, "end": 3080.68, "text": " Nobody's telling these guys to not sell health insurance." }, { "start": 3080.68, "end": 3081.68, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3081.68, "end": 3082.68, "text": " It's just that there's now other options." }, { "start": 3082.68, "end": 3084.52, "text": " Nobody has to like hit a certain minimal." }, { "start": 3084.52, "end": 3087.16, "text": " I don't know if I have the minimum required coverage, but who knows?" }, { "start": 3087.16, "end": 3090.7999999999997, "text": " You're probably gonna send, get sent right to a death panel in this situation." }, { "start": 3090.7999999999997, "end": 3091.7999999999997, "text": " Yeah, probably." }, { "start": 3091.7999999999997, "end": 3098.2, "text": " I, I, I will say this, you know, it is all I know is we've not tried the socialized healthcare" }, { "start": 3098.2, "end": 3099.2, "text": " plan." }, { "start": 3099.2, "end": 3101.56, "text": " Like it hasn't been tried in America." }, { "start": 3101.56, "end": 3103.7599999999998, "text": " And I just feel like let's just roll the dice and see how it goes." }, { "start": 3103.7599999999998, "end": 3104.7599999999998, "text": " Let's give it a shot." }, { "start": 3104.7599999999998, "end": 3105.7599999999998, "text": " Let's go." }, { "start": 3105.7599999999998, "end": 3106.7599999999998, "text": " Why not?" }, { "start": 3106.7599999999998, "end": 3107.7599999999998, "text": " I don't want to gamble with my whatever." }, { "start": 3107.7599999999998, "end": 3108.7599999999998, "text": " And it's like, why not?" }, { "start": 3108.7599999999998, "end": 3109.7599999999998, "text": " There's a bunch of people who don't have insurance and like, let's see what happens." }, { "start": 3109.76, "end": 3113, "text": " You know, it's really fun for me is going home for Thanksgiving." }, { "start": 3113, "end": 3114, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3114, "end": 3117.28, "text": " Your father is a hardcore right wing and my family full of doctors." }, { "start": 3117.28, "end": 3118.28, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3118.28, "end": 3119.28, "text": " Talking about this." }, { "start": 3119.28, "end": 3120.28, "text": " They don't like Obamacare." }, { "start": 3120.28, "end": 3121.28, "text": " You might." }, { "start": 3121.28, "end": 3123.6800000000003, "text": " So my sister is all, she's cool with it." }, { "start": 3123.6800000000003, "end": 3125.6400000000003, "text": " You know, she's like, she's got to remain hope." }, { "start": 3125.6400000000003, "end": 3126.6400000000003, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3126.6400000000003, "end": 3127.6400000000003, "text": " Cool, cool." }, { "start": 3127.6400000000003, "end": 3128.6400000000003, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3128.6400000000003, "end": 3133.6000000000004, "text": " My dad, man, he's not into it, not into it." }, { "start": 3133.6000000000004, "end": 3137.92, "text": " There's gotta be some, but it's like my attempts to escape that conversation, like by the end," }, { "start": 3137.92, "end": 3139.92, "text": " it was like diving off of couches." }, { "start": 3139.92, "end": 3148.12, "text": " My guess is that at some point though, just the way the medical industry has exploited." }, { "start": 3148.12, "end": 3150.44, "text": " You got, you got Lego frames like the real one." }, { "start": 3150.44, "end": 3151.44, "text": " Oh dude, no, no." }, { "start": 3151.44, "end": 3152.44, "text": " Like the real tracks." }, { "start": 3152.44, "end": 3153.44, "text": " Lego trains right now are awesome." }, { "start": 3153.44, "end": 3154.8, "text": " Wait, what are Lego trains?" }, { "start": 3154.8, "end": 3156.44, "text": " So when I was a kid, I had the Lego monorail." }, { "start": 3156.44, "end": 3157.44, "text": " Do you remember the space monorail?" }, { "start": 3157.44, "end": 3158.44, "text": " You had the monorail?" }, { "start": 3158.44, "end": 3159.44, "text": " I had the monorail." }, { "start": 3159.44, "end": 3160.44, "text": " It was awesome." }, { "start": 3160.44, "end": 3161.44, "text": " He had it all." }, { "start": 3161.44, "end": 3162.44, "text": " He had it all." }, { "start": 3162.44, "end": 3163.44, "text": " He was racing privilege." }, { "start": 3163.44, "end": 3166.44, "text": " We were scrapping, scraping and scrapping for something." }, { "start": 3166.44, "end": 3168.04, "text": " Stealing bread off of windowsill." }, { "start": 3168.04, "end": 3171.52, "text": " Dude, just give me my birthday and my Christmas if you just give me this one little thing." }, { "start": 3171.52, "end": 3174.68, "text": " For a man who was born on December 16th, I will tell you that I pulled that scam many," }, { "start": 3174.68, "end": 3175.68, "text": " many times." }, { "start": 3175.68, "end": 3176.68, "text": " Yeah, that's a good scam." }, { "start": 3176.68, "end": 3177.68, "text": " And you got the Lego train." }, { "start": 3177.68, "end": 3178.68, "text": " That's a good scam." }, { "start": 3178.68, "end": 3179.68, "text": " He got the Lego." }, { "start": 3179.68, "end": 3181.68, "text": " Anyway, but if you remember the Lego monorail, it was like." }, { "start": 3181.68, "end": 3182.68, "text": " Of course we do." }, { "start": 3182.68, "end": 3183.68, "text": " It was a hack, right?" }, { "start": 3183.68, "end": 3184.68, "text": " I drooled on that in the catalog." }, { "start": 3184.68, "end": 3189.2000000000003, "text": " So the engine had like a physical switch on it and it was a drive along the track." }, { "start": 3189.2000000000003, "end": 3193.64, "text": " Like you could adjust Legos to hit the switches and that's how it stopped and started." }, { "start": 3193.64, "end": 3194.64, "text": " Sadness." }, { "start": 3194.64, "end": 3196.2400000000002, "text": " I don't know, but it sounds great." }, { "start": 3196.24, "end": 3198.6, "text": " The new ones are straight up remote controlled." }, { "start": 3198.6, "end": 3200.6, "text": " Like they're like my niece is running around." }, { "start": 3200.6, "end": 3202.4399999999996, "text": " No, there's like a remote control." }, { "start": 3202.4399999999996, "end": 3204.3999999999996, "text": " That's a battle for the running." }, { "start": 3204.3999999999996, "end": 3208.3999999999996, "text": " I mean, I straight up like fought an eight year old girl to play with the Lego train." }, { "start": 3208.3999999999996, "end": 3209.3999999999996, "text": " It doesn't surprise me." }, { "start": 3209.3999999999996, "end": 3211.7999999999997, "text": " Yeah, I would not put that past you at all." }, { "start": 3211.7999999999997, "end": 3212.7999999999997, "text": " She won." }, { "start": 3212.7999999999997, "end": 3213.7999999999997, "text": " She did win." }, { "start": 3213.7999999999997, "end": 3214.7999999999997, "text": " But not also that also doesn't surprise me." }, { "start": 3214.7999999999997, "end": 3217.72, "text": " So the moral of the story is that the children are our future." }, { "start": 3217.72, "end": 3219.64, "text": " Children are too wily, wily." }, { "start": 3219.64, "end": 3223.52, "text": " Those children are going to be riding a hyper loop and they're going to be like, this is" }, { "start": 3223.52, "end": 3224.52, "text": " nothing new to us." }, { "start": 3224.52, "end": 3225.72, "text": " They may or may not have health care." }, { "start": 3225.72, "end": 3230.48, "text": " Yeah, well they may or may not, but they probably will." }, { "start": 3230.48, "end": 3231.48, "text": " I think they'll be okay." }, { "start": 3231.48, "end": 3234, "text": " I just, I'm just saying like, let's just see what happens." }, { "start": 3234, "end": 3235, "text": " Give it a couple of years." }, { "start": 3235, "end": 3236.56, "text": " It's been like six months." }, { "start": 3236.56, "end": 3237.56, "text": " Can't get worse." }, { "start": 3237.56, "end": 3244.52, "text": " I mean, here's the thing, you know, like, you know, I feel like medical professionals" }, { "start": 3244.52, "end": 3247.7799999999997, "text": " are probably bummed because like all the kinds of weird loopholes that used to exist are" }, { "start": 3247.7799999999997, "end": 3250.4399999999996, "text": " getting like weirdly changed or closed up." }, { "start": 3250.4399999999996, "end": 3252.7599999999998, "text": " But come on, they're not getting paid." }, { "start": 3252.76, "end": 3258.2000000000003, "text": " There'll be a bunch of new loopholes and ways to make more money and ways to do less, fewer" }, { "start": 3258.2000000000003, "end": 3260.8, "text": " surgeries on fewer people, you know, whatever." }, { "start": 3260.8, "end": 3267.36, "text": " I don't know what doctors want yet because the robotic surgeons have been so, so good" }, { "start": 3267.36, "end": 3268.88, "text": " thus far." }, { "start": 3268.88, "end": 3270.0800000000004, "text": " So we're getting close to having to wrap up." }, { "start": 3270.0800000000004, "end": 3271.0800000000004, "text": " I know this is a short one." }, { "start": 3271.0800000000004, "end": 3273.48, "text": " Unfortunately, we do have to catch a train." }, { "start": 3273.48, "end": 3276, "text": " Like literally that's not even a pun." }, { "start": 3276, "end": 3277, "text": " That's not a joke." }, { "start": 3277, "end": 3281.5200000000004, "text": " I have Michael Shane staring at me, like nodding his head, looking very worried." }, { "start": 3281.52, "end": 3283.72, "text": " You look very, he's actually not pointing to his watch." }, { "start": 3283.72, "end": 3286.36, "text": " Now he's making some sort of breast grabbing a breast motion." }, { "start": 3286.36, "end": 3287.88, "text": " I don't understand that." }, { "start": 3287.88, "end": 3288.88, "text": " Don't do that to me." }, { "start": 3288.88, "end": 3289.88, "text": " Don't do that to anyone." }, { "start": 3289.88, "end": 3290.88, "text": " Not in front of the flag." }, { "start": 3290.88, "end": 3291.88, "text": " You're not in front of America." }, { "start": 3291.88, "end": 3294.7599999999998, "text": " America's, you know, you can't see that." }, { "start": 3294.7599999999998, "end": 3295.7599999999998, "text": " No one can see this." }, { "start": 3295.7599999999998, "end": 3296.7599999999998, "text": " There's a huge flag." }, { "start": 3296.7599999999998, "end": 3297.7599999999998, "text": " There's a big flag." }, { "start": 3297.7599999999998, "end": 3299.96, "text": " Could we just shoot the flag for a second?" }, { "start": 3299.96, "end": 3300.96, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3300.96, "end": 3301.96, "text": " You think we're kidding." }, { "start": 3301.96, "end": 3302.96, "text": " Michael, go do the thing." }, { "start": 3302.96, "end": 3304.8, "text": " Oh, you can't really see it cause it's in the dark." }, { "start": 3304.8, "end": 3305.8, "text": " There's Michael." }, { "start": 3305.8, "end": 3306.8, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3306.8, "end": 3307.8, "text": " That's a huge flag and there's Michael." }, { "start": 3307.8, "end": 3308.8, "text": " And that's the verchester." }, { "start": 3308.8, "end": 3309.8, "text": " Are you?" }, { "start": 3309.8, "end": 3310.8, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3310.8, "end": 3311.8, "text": " I'm not sure." }, { "start": 3311.8, "end": 3312.8, "text": " I'm not sure." }, { "start": 3312.8, "end": 3314.6400000000003, "text": " Are there any other topics we need to cover?" }, { "start": 3314.6400000000003, "end": 3315.6400000000003, "text": " Not really." }, { "start": 3315.6400000000003, "end": 3316.6400000000003, "text": " I feel like something else happened." }, { "start": 3316.6400000000003, "end": 3317.6400000000003, "text": " I can't remember." }, { "start": 3317.6400000000003, "end": 3320.0800000000004, "text": " You know what I hate about Aaron Sorkin speaking of the West Wing?" }, { "start": 3320.0800000000004, "end": 3322.6000000000004, "text": " Oh, this is going to, this is going to end quickly." }, { "start": 3322.6000000000004, "end": 3324.6000000000004, "text": " Well, we have, it was pretty, it was, I had, we had." }, { "start": 3324.6000000000004, "end": 3326.32, "text": " Hey Josh, let's walk and talk." }, { "start": 3326.32, "end": 3327.32, "text": " It's not the walk and talk." }, { "start": 3327.32, "end": 3330.3, "text": " It's the, it's the, and this happens a lot in the West Wing." }, { "start": 3330.3, "end": 3335.76, "text": " It's a, um, Mr. President, we need you to sign this document and then do you know in" }, { "start": 3335.76, "end": 3337.6800000000003, "text": " 1876 what they called screws?" }, { "start": 3337.6800000000003, "end": 3340.52, "text": " And it's like, you know what, dude?" }, { "start": 3340.52, "end": 3342.24, "text": " Just sign the, just sign." }, { "start": 3342.24, "end": 3345.04, "text": " Yeah, no, it's like, it's like a Mr. President, here's your new shoes." }, { "start": 3345.04, "end": 3347.96, "text": " He's like, you, have you read the Ulysses?" }, { "start": 3347.96, "end": 3350.8, "text": " Because let me tell you, and it's like, you know what people just want you to do." }, { "start": 3350.8, "end": 3351.8, "text": " You're the president." }, { "start": 3351.8, "end": 3352.8, "text": " Please." }, { "start": 3352.8, "end": 3356, "text": " He spends like four hours a day telling stories about history." }, { "start": 3356, "end": 3357, "text": " He's like a grandpa." }, { "start": 3357, "end": 3360.6, "text": " You know, he needs to sign the papers and put his shoes on and get to the meeting." }, { "start": 3360.6, "end": 3365.08, "text": " Like stop answering, stop answering questions with questions about history." }, { "start": 3365.08, "end": 3369.08, "text": " It's not, if our actual president is anything like the pool, it's not cool." }, { "start": 3369.08, "end": 3371.4, "text": " Our actual president is like the president of the West Wing." }, { "start": 3371.4, "end": 3373.68, "text": " No wonder we're having all these problems." }, { "start": 3373.68, "end": 3375.2, "text": " People are like, oh, Obama, what do you think?" }, { "start": 3375.2, "end": 3376.68, "text": " We got to get this healthcare thing happening." }, { "start": 3376.68, "end": 3379.72, "text": " He's like, have I ever told you about the time I was in Guatemala?" }, { "start": 3379.72, "end": 3381.68, "text": " And it's like, no, no one wants to hear it." }, { "start": 3381.68, "end": 3382.92, "text": " We got to do healthcare here." }, { "start": 3382.92, "end": 3385.04, "text": " No, they're parables, man." }, { "start": 3385.04, "end": 3386.04, "text": " They're not parables." }, { "start": 3386.04, "end": 3387.68, "text": " He's just saying things." }, { "start": 3387.68, "end": 3389.3199999999997, "text": " You know what I'm talking about." }, { "start": 3389.3199999999997, "end": 3390.3199999999997, "text": " You've heard all the stories." }, { "start": 3390.3199999999997, "end": 3391.96, "text": " Anyhow, this guy over here." }, { "start": 3391.96, "end": 3397, "text": " By the way, this is totally unrelated, but I read that, that the death dealer story." }, { "start": 3397, "end": 3398, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 3398, "end": 3403.04, "text": " The epic long form work by the verge, just pretty incredible." }, { "start": 3403.04, "end": 3404.68, "text": " And I was really sad." }, { "start": 3404.68, "end": 3405.68, "text": " It's very sad." }, { "start": 3405.68, "end": 3410.04, "text": " So if you, well, not even if you have a chance, read this or I'll be very upset with you." }, { "start": 3410.04, "end": 3411.68, "text": " Matt Stroud wrote a piece called the death dealer." }, { "start": 3411.68, "end": 3413.96, "text": " It's a long form piece that we put up today." }, { "start": 3413.96, "end": 3420.16, "text": " It is about a guy named James Arthur Ray who is, I would say a very bad person, like just" }, { "start": 3420.16, "end": 3425.08, "text": " a very flawed, very flawed, damaged person who is damaging other people." }, { "start": 3425.08, "end": 3428.4, "text": " And it's a fascinating story." }, { "start": 3428.4, "end": 3432.16, "text": " It's actually kind of, I think is in some way related to our scam world story that we" }, { "start": 3432.16, "end": 3438.92, "text": " did a couple of years ago in that he's sort of one of these guys who has risen to, he" }, { "start": 3438.92, "end": 3439.92, "text": " had risen to a place." }, { "start": 3439.92, "end": 3440.92, "text": " I mean, he's like Oprah." }, { "start": 3440.92, "end": 3442.2, "text": " Oprah's like into this guy." }, { "start": 3442.2, "end": 3443.2, "text": " He wrote the secret." }, { "start": 3443.2, "end": 3445.44, "text": " No, he was 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your reality to be, you can get it on the internet." }, { "start": 3472.04, "end": 3481.16, "text": " I do think these guys are kind of a, are like a red flag in the belief in information without" }, { "start": 3481.16, "end": 3482.16, "text": " really doing your homework." }, { "start": 3482.16, "end": 3487.2799999999997, "text": " So don't believe James Arthur Ray, but do read the story about him." }, { "start": 3487.2799999999997, "end": 3492.96, "text": " It's called the death dealer on the verge.com, a website on the internet coming soon." }, { "start": 3492.96, "end": 3495.3999999999996, "text": " As soon as we work out the bugs with our 55 contractors." }, { "start": 3495.3999999999996, "end": 3496.3999999999996, "text": " Dot gov." }, { "start": 3496.3999999999996, "end": 3498.44, "text": " No, but actually, but you know, that's the thing." }, { "start": 3498.44, "end": 3499.96, "text": " Like we're so used to, I just think about-" }, { "start": 3499.96, "end": 3501.68, "text": " Websites are really hard to build." }, { "start": 3501.68, "end": 3504.44, "text": " The verge is hard to build, but we have like an incredible, we've got to go." }, { "start": 3504.44, "end": 3507.8799999999997, "text": " We have an incredible product team who build it and like did it efficiently and continues-" }, { "start": 3507.8799999999997, "end": 3509.7999999999997, "text": " Why don't you just cut your own throat and then hang yourself?" }, { "start": 3509.8, "end": 3516.7200000000003, "text": " I just want to say this, but we're used to in our world, people executing on things they" }, { "start": 3516.7200000000003, "end": 3520.04, "text": " say they're going to and making them and they're like, whoa, the thing exists now." }, { "start": 3520.04, "end": 3522.96, "text": " That's why, that's why it's so weird to see something fail so completely." }, { "start": 3522.96, "end": 3524.6400000000003, "text": " Like you go to websites that don't work." }, { "start": 3524.6400000000003, "end": 3526.6400000000003, "text": " Maybe you have a problem for a day, a couple of hours." }, { "start": 3526.6400000000003, "end": 3530.1200000000003, "text": " Oh, they get their servers are being overloaded and then they like get more servers and it's" }, { "start": 3530.1200000000003, "end": 3531.1200000000003, "text": " fixed or whatever." }, { "start": 3531.1200000000003, "end": 3532.8, "text": " Well, it took Twitter like three years." }, { "start": 3532.8, "end": 3533.8, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 3533.8, "end": 3536.88, "text": " Twitter had its, but Twitter, you know, major service and did get their stuff together." }, { "start": 3536.88, "end": 3541.2400000000002, "text": " It did take them several years, but it wasn't like every day you went, Twitter was completely" }, { "start": 3541.2400000000002, "end": 3542.2400000000002, "text": " destroyed." }, { "start": 3542.2400000000002, "end": 3544.04, "text": " Anyhow, so government, get it together." }, { "start": 3544.04, "end": 3545.92, "text": " Talk to, talk to the Vox product team." }, { "start": 3545.92, "end": 3548.88, "text": " You want to get some tips on how to build great websites." }, { "start": 3548.88, "end": 3551.48, "text": " Many of them are in DC, short walk, short walk to paradise." }, { "start": 3551.48, "end": 3552.48, "text": " It's true." }, { "start": 3552.48, "end": 3557.6400000000003, "text": " And that is our verge cast for this week." }, { "start": 3557.6400000000003, "end": 3558.6400000000003, "text": " Thank you guys for watching." }, { "start": 3558.6400000000003, "end": 3561.76, "text": " If you want to get in touch with us, you can email us at vergecast at the verge.com." }, { "start": 3561.76, "end": 3564.48, "text": " You can leave, write something in our forums." }, { "start": 3564.48, "end": 3566.4, "text": " You can leave a comment on this post when it goes up." }, { "start": 3566.4, "end": 3567.4, "text": " You can find us on Twitter." }, { "start": 3567.4, "end": 3568.4, "text": " The verge is at verge." }, { "start": 3568.4, "end": 3570.08, "text": " I'm Josh Patopulsky, and Eli is reckless." }, { "start": 3570.08, "end": 3571.08, "text": " Paul is future Paul." }, { "start": 3571.08, "end": 3573.2400000000002, "text": " Ben Popper is Ben Popper." }, { "start": 3573.2400000000002, "end": 3578.8, "text": " And you know, this is, it's early in the week for us, but this will be it for the week." }, { "start": 3578.8, "end": 3583.12, "text": " And you know, for what's, you know, the, you know, the situation that's happening right" }, { "start": 3583.12, "end": 3588.6800000000003, "text": " now with you and your family, I think we all feel, you know, we're going to wait, we're" }, { "start": 3588.6800000000003, "end": 3591.12, "text": " going to watch, we're going to see what happens." }, { "start": 3591.12, "end": 3592.12, "text": " We don't know what'll happen." }, { "start": 3592.12, "end": 3615.88, "text": " We don't 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"text": " was out and it was not." }, { "start": 376, "end": 382, "text": " There were three people still in there and they were unconscious." }, { "start": 382, "end": 398, "text": " I just knew, I just knew that it was too late." }, { "start": 398, "end": 406, "text": " The next thing we heard was someone knocking on the door at about eight o'clock in the" }, { "start": 406, "end": 407, "text": " morning." }, { "start": 407, "end": 413, "text": " On Friday morning, October 9th to ask did we know Kirby Brown." }, { "start": 413, "end": 427, "text": " It was a state trooper asking us if we knew Kirby Brown." }, { "start": 427, "end": 432, "text": " And he told us that she had passed." }, { "start": 432, "end": 439, "text": " At a certain point, we knew what happened in the sweat lodge." }, { "start": 439, "end": 443, "text": " There's no question from talking to everybody involved, we know exactly what happened in" }, { "start": 443, "end": 444, "text": " the sweat lodge." }, { "start": 444, "end": 448, "text": " It got too hot and James Ray encouraged people to stay inside even though they were wanting" }, { "start": 448, "end": 450, "text": " to leave." }, { "start": 450, "end": 453, "text": " But we didn't know if that's a crime." }, { "start": 453, "end": 461, "text": " When we began hearing his lack of attention to their need for help, I was like this man" }, { "start": 461, "end": 462, "text": " murdered these people." }, { "start": 462, "end": 466, "text": " We did some research to look into James Ray's credentials." }, { "start": 466, "end": 469, "text": " Where did he learn how to do a sweat lodge?" }, { "start": 469, "end": 475, "text": " And we didn't find anything that showed us where James Ray learned how to do these different" }, { "start": 475, "end": 476, "text": " events." }, { "start": 476, "end": 480, "text": " I've had the blessed opportunity to study with many indigenous traditions and in the" }, { "start": 480, "end": 485, "text": " Andes mountains and the jungles of the Amazon and the principles are all the same." }, { "start": 485, "end": 490, "text": " He claimed to have had extensive training to do a sweat lodge, not true." }, { "start": 490, "end": 497, "text": " He claimed to be trained in holotropic breathing by Groff, not true." }, { "start": 497, "end": 504, "text": " Everything he did that week that he claimed to have training in and experience and knowledge" }, { "start": 504, "end": 508, "text": " was untrue." }, { "start": 508, "end": 513, "text": " Nearly four months after his controversial sweat lodge ceremony, self-help guru James" }, { "start": 513, "end": 517, "text": " Arthur Ray has been arrested on three counts of manslaughter." }, { "start": 517, "end": 522, "text": " An Arizona jury heard opening arguments Tuesday in the trial of a self-help guru whose sweat" }, { "start": 522, "end": 526, "text": " lodge ceremony in 2009 turned deadly for three of the participants." }, { "start": 526, "end": 532, "text": " The self-help author is now headed for jail tonight and it comes after a lot of backlash" }, { "start": 532, "end": 535, "text": " in court over his deadly Sedona sweat lodge ceremony." }, { "start": 535, "end": 546, "text": " The judge is a notoriously light sentencer and instead of giving him three counts consecutively," }, { "start": 546, "end": 549, "text": " he let them run concurrent." }, { "start": 549, "end": 556, "text": " So he could have been given six years, but he was given two." }, { "start": 556, "end": 560, "text": " We're here today because Kirby isn't." }, { "start": 560, "end": 565, "text": " James Ray is expected to get out of prison today." }, { "start": 565, "end": 571, "text": " After her death in the following months, it took us a number of discussions to get a little" }, { "start": 571, "end": 576, "text": " bit clearer about exactly what we wanted to do and what kind of action we wanted to take." }, { "start": 576, "end": 587, "text": " There's a lot of people in this industry that, like James Ray, operate unethically and unsafely." }, { "start": 587, "end": 592, "text": " And we wanted to try to figure out some way to change that." }, { "start": 592, "end": 598, "text": " So we've put together the Seek Safely Promise, which is really both for the providers of" }, { "start": 598, "end": 604, "text": " self-help and also for their consumers to understand that this is what they're entitled" }, { "start": 604, "end": 606, "text": " to and this is what they deserve." }, { "start": 606, "end": 613, "text": " And we're asking the providers of self-help to sign on to just some very basic values." }, { "start": 613, "end": 617, "text": " As someone who's going to an event, this is what you're entitled to." }, { "start": 617, "end": 619, "text": " This is like your bill of rights." }, { "start": 619, "end": 623, "text": " These are your rights, and you need to ask for this." }, { "start": 623, "end": 626, "text": " This industry has to change." }, { "start": 626, "end": 634, "text": " It has to become infused with ethical standards and accountability." }, { "start": 634, "end": 639, "text": " Large group awareness training is an unregulated industry." }, { "start": 639, "end": 641, "text": " It has been for a long time." }, { "start": 641, "end": 645, "text": " There are a number of companies that sell this training." }, { "start": 645, "end": 649, "text": " They have a history of problems." }, { "start": 649, "end": 655, "text": " There is not a month that goes by that I don't receive complaints about these weekend retreats" }, { "start": 655, "end": 660, "text": " that break people down to make them over again and change them." }, { "start": 660, "end": 667, "text": " Anyone can be hurt by them, and there doesn't seem to be any real responsibility or accountability." }, { "start": 667, "end": 674, "text": " So I think though legislation may be a real difficult thing to accomplish," }, { "start": 674, "end": 682, "text": " due diligence is something that can be done and should be done before entering into any program." }, { "start": 682, "end": 687, "text": " And people should realize that these large group awareness training programs," }, { "start": 687, "end": 693, "text": " even though they see Oprah pitching them, they are controversial," }, { "start": 693, "end": 696, "text": " and they have a history of problems." }, { "start": 696, "end": 700, "text": " Many times in my work people will say to me," }, { "start": 700, "end": 704, "text": " what kind of person gets involved in this stuff?" }, { "start": 704, "end": 711, "text": " As if there is a particular type of person that has a stamp on their forehead that says," }, { "start": 711, "end": 713, "text": " this person is vulnerable." }, { "start": 713, "end": 718, "text": " If you think that you are somehow invulnerable, think again." }, { "start": 718, "end": 723, "text": " All the people that we talked to that were associated with James Ray seemed like regular, normal people." }, { "start": 723, "end": 728, "text": " And I didn't see that coming. I thought that this was going to be some kind of cult." }, { "start": 728, "end": 731, "text": " But no, these are just regular people." }, { "start": 731, "end": 735, "text": " That's what makes James Ray so good and then also so dangerous," }, { "start": 735, "end": 740, "text": " is because these aren't mental midgets that he's targeting." }, { "start": 740, "end": 747, "text": " These are mainstream doctors, lawyers, normal people that become followers." }, { "start": 747, "end": 751, "text": " We're taking a big step here this morning," }, { "start": 751, "end": 755, "text": " because as parents we find this tremendously hard." }, { "start": 755, "end": 760, "text": " James Ray gets out of prison today." }, { "start": 760, "end": 763, "text": " He is now free." }, { "start": 763, "end": 773, "text": " We want to make sure that seekers are free to seek safely." }, { "start": 773, "end": 776, "text": " We're going to issue him the promise." }, { "start": 776, "end": 778, "text": " We hope he'll sign it." }, { "start": 778, "end": 781, "text": " We hope he'll follow it." }, { "start": 781, "end": 786, "text": " We hope that he will not hurt anyone else in the future." }, { "start": 786, "end": 800, "text": " I have no intentions whatsoever of certainly ever doing another sweat lodge." }, { "start": 800, "end": 802, "text": " Will you do any kind of self-help?" }, { "start": 802, "end": 803, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 803, "end": 809, "text": " Oddly, you could be in an even better position now to help people" }, { "start": 809, "end": 812, "text": " who've been through a nightmarish experience." }, { "start": 812, "end": 819, "text": " I hope so." }, { "start": 819, "end": 824, "text": " You know, he put himself out there as being omnipotent." }, { "start": 824, "end": 828, "text": " But in the face of crisis, he was impotent." }, { "start": 828, "end": 830, "text": " He was unable to act." }, { "start": 830, "end": 834, "text": " He did nothing to help the people that had placed their trust in him." }, { "start": 834, "end": 836, "text": " He did nothing to help them." }, { "start": 836, "end": 838, "text": " And then he walked away." }, { "start": 838, "end": 840, "text": " He abandoned all of them." }, { "start": 840, "end": 845, "text": " She gave him everything she had, everything." }, { "start": 845, "end": 848, "text": " There was hardly anything left in her bank account." }, { "start": 848, "end": 856, "text": " All of her money, all of her trust, and ultimately her life." }, { "start": 856, "end": 861, "text": " She took it all." } ]

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[ { "start": 0, "end": 5.84, "text": " It's Tuesday, December 3rd, 2013. I'm Maddie Robertson and The Verge produces a quality" }, { "start": 5.84, "end": 11.46, "text": " daily news show that showcases the top three stories of the day. It's called 90 Seconds" }, { "start": 11.46, "end": 12.46, "text": " on The Verge." }, { "start": 12.46, "end": 16.16, "text": " In what is being called the largest municipal filing in U.S. history, a judge has ruled" }, { "start": 16.16, "end": 20.080000000000002, "text": " that Detroit is eligible to file for bankruptcy. The city had to prove in court that it was" }, { "start": 20.080000000000002, "end": 25.04, "text": " unable to resolve its $18 billion of debt. The city will now submit plans for restructuring." }, { "start": 25.04, "end": 28.68, "text": " While these plans do mark a step forward for Detroit as a whole, the bankruptcy could affect" }, { "start": 28.68, "end": 33.36, "text": " the pension plans of its citizens. Take a bow, virtual DJs. You played quite a show." }, { "start": 33.36, "end": 37.88, "text": " After a two and a half year gig, the internet radio service Turntable FM has shut down." }, { "start": 37.88, "end": 41.92, "text": " In that time, fans created a million virtual DJ rooms and played more than 400 million" }, { "start": 41.92, "end": 46.4, "text": " songs, but unfortunately it proved too costly to continue running. The company will now" }, { "start": 46.4, "end": 50.28, "text": " put its energy into Turntable Live, its streaming concert service, but it has a long way to" }, { "start": 50.28, "end": 54.24, "text": " go if it wants to reach the same numbers. And finally, for a quarter million dollars," }, { "start": 54.24, "end": 58.84, "text": " you too can shoot first. Han Solo's DL-44 blaster will be auctioned next month and is" }, { "start": 58.84, "end": 64.04, "text": " expected to reach a price of between $200,000 and $300,000. Sadly, the blaster used in A" }, { "start": 64.04, "end": 67.36, "text": " New Hope was destroyed during filming, so Star Wars fans will have to settle for the" }, { "start": 67.36, "end": 71.5, "text": " replica that was used in The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. No word yet on" }, { "start": 71.5, "end": 75.6, "text": " the asking price for Luke's severed hand. And that's it for today's top stories." }, { "start": 75.6, "end": 80.80000000000001, "text": " Coming up tomorrow, I begin tweeting my life story. I was born in a small town north of" }, { "start": 80.8, "end": 86.75999999999999, "text": " Glasgow in the year of 1928. It was a beautiful time to be a young lad, for this was the best" }, { "start": 86.76, "end": 111.76, "text": " harvest. We... out of characters next week." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 4.46, "text": " Greetings, mobile accomplishers." }, { "start": 4.46, "end": 6.140000000000001, "text": " Welcome to the Verge Mobile Show." }, { "start": 6.140000000000001, "end": 10.700000000000001, "text": " This is episode number 71 for the week of December 2nd, 2013." }, { "start": 10.700000000000001, "end": 12.74, "text": " I am Dieter Bohm." }, { "start": 12.74, "end": 19.42, "text": " I am Vlad Sevov, and I'm delighted to know that we are now a septuagenarian show." }, { "start": 19.42, "end": 25.1, "text": " I'm Dan Seifer, and I don't have a witty comment to add." }, { "start": 25.1, "end": 26.66, "text": " And Chris Ziegler is here." }, { "start": 26.66, "end": 33.88, "text": " At least his thumbnail is here with us, but Chris Ziegler is coming to us from Chicago," }, { "start": 33.88, "end": 35.08, "text": " where..." }, { "start": 35.08, "end": 36.36, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 36.36, "end": 41.44, "text": " So we have a running schtick on the show where we troll Chris by making fun of the city of" }, { "start": 41.44, "end": 42.44, "text": " Chicago." }, { "start": 42.44, "end": 47.879999999999995, "text": " The city of Chicago, if we tell the truth, is a beautiful city that I love, that we all" }, { "start": 47.879999999999995, "end": 50.28, "text": " like to go to when we have the chance." }, { "start": 50.28, "end": 51.28, "text": " There's lots of..." }, { "start": 51.28, "end": 52.28, "text": " They make great tomato casserole." }, { "start": 52.28, "end": 53.28, "text": " Yeah, they make..." }, { "start": 53.28, "end": 54.28, "text": " See?" }, { "start": 54.28, "end": 58.660000000000004, "text": " He was trying to be nice, and he just went straight for it." }, { "start": 58.660000000000004, "end": 65.48, "text": " I've been talking this entire time, and apparently I was on mute." }, { "start": 65.48, "end": 66.48, "text": " I would just..." }, { "start": 66.48, "end": 67.48, "text": " Rewind, rewind, rewind." }, { "start": 67.48, "end": 68.48, "text": " I'm Chris Ziegler." }, { "start": 68.48, "end": 69.48, "text": " Yes!" }, { "start": 69.48, "end": 70.48, "text": " Yeah, I'm just going to go..." }, { "start": 70.48, "end": 77.32, "text": " You've got that whole thing where I was going to say that the one problem with Chicago is" }, { "start": 77.32, "end": 79, "text": " apparently it doesn't have internet." }, { "start": 79, "end": 83.68, "text": " How many different ways have you tried to get online in the past week, Chris?" }, { "start": 83.68, "end": 85, "text": " It's kind of like I'm living..." }, { "start": 85, "end": 86.08000000000001, "text": " No, not kind of like." }, { "start": 86.08000000000001, "end": 94.48, "text": " I'm literally living in a post-apocalyptic future where the only currency that human" }, { "start": 94.48, "end": 98.18, "text": " beings still have is their connectivity." }, { "start": 98.18, "end": 107.24000000000001, "text": " And so you're trading MiFis for food or water, clean water, not still water that's going" }, { "start": 107.24000000000001, "end": 112.96000000000001, "text": " to make you sick, or a fire if you're cold, that kind of stuff." }, { "start": 112.96, "end": 114.19999999999999, "text": " That's where I'm at with my life right now." }, { "start": 114.19999999999999, "end": 118.19999999999999, "text": " I have three MiFis, each of which..." }, { "start": 118.19999999999999, "end": 119.19999999999999, "text": " Well, no." }, { "start": 119.19999999999999, "end": 120.19999999999999, "text": " I don't even have three MiFis." }, { "start": 120.19999999999999, "end": 129.4, "text": " I have two phones and one MiFi on three different carriers that all get one bar of signal, and" }, { "start": 129.4, "end": 130.4, "text": " they're all finicky." }, { "start": 130.4, "end": 134.2, "text": " Sometimes they like to work, sometimes they don't, depending on their mood." }, { "start": 134.2, "end": 138.2, "text": " So I can go for a little while on one, and then it craps out, and then I have to switch" }, { "start": 138.2, "end": 141.79999999999998, "text": " to another, and that's what I've been doing for the past four days." }, { "start": 141.8, "end": 147.36, "text": " And I'm about ready to just say, never mind, and move to Costa Rica and disconnect from" }, { "start": 147.36, "end": 152.56, "text": " the internet entirely and disappear off the face of the planet." }, { "start": 152.56, "end": 158.22000000000003, "text": " So here's the thing that I don't understand is, from what I can tell from the maps you've" }, { "start": 158.22000000000003, "end": 163.20000000000002, "text": " shown me, the entire city of Chicago has no Comcast internet service and hasn't since" }, { "start": 163.20000000000002, "end": 164.20000000000002, "text": " Friday." }, { "start": 164.20000000000002, "end": 168.52, "text": " I mean, I'm sure that's not actually the case, but that seems to be the case that you're" }, { "start": 168.52, "end": 174.56, "text": " thinking, and in any other modern city on the entire planet, that would not stand." }, { "start": 174.56, "end": 179.36, "text": " There would be riots on the streets, but apparently in Chicago, it's like, meh, no internet," }, { "start": 179.36, "end": 180.36, "text": " whatever." }, { "start": 180.36, "end": 184.28, "text": " Well, so I went to Starbucks both yesterday and today to try to get some work done, because" }, { "start": 184.28, "end": 190.76000000000002, "text": " at least I get signal there from my hotspot, and the Wi-Fi situation there is kind of the" }, { "start": 190.76000000000002, "end": 196.64000000000001, "text": " most depressing thing ever, because you get the Starbucks connection screen, and then" }, { "start": 196.64, "end": 200.83999999999997, "text": " you accept their terms and conditions, and then it just, no matter what site you go to," }, { "start": 200.83999999999997, "end": 202.95999999999998, "text": " it goes to the same terms and conditions page." }, { "start": 202.95999999999998, "end": 206.32, "text": " So it's like you're just permanently looking at a paywall." }, { "start": 206.32, "end": 210.83999999999997, "text": " Not a paywall, because it's free, but it's the worst possible, it's like if you were" }, { "start": 210.83999999999997, "end": 215.76, "text": " using the internet in hell, and you just had to keep accepting terms and conditions to" }, { "start": 215.76, "end": 219.88, "text": " get on hell's Wi-Fi, that's kind of where I was." }, { "start": 219.88, "end": 223.72, "text": " So yeah, everything about my life has kind of been terrible as a result of Comcast for" }, { "start": 223.72, "end": 226.04, "text": " the past four days." }, { "start": 226.04, "end": 230.84, "text": " And the word on the street, I've been doing a lot of Twitter searches about this, obviously," }, { "start": 230.84, "end": 232.95999999999998, "text": " as you can probably imagine." }, { "start": 232.95999999999998, "end": 239.48, "text": " The word on the street is that a fiber cable somewhere in Indiana may have been cut by" }, { "start": 239.48, "end": 245.48, "text": " a construction crew on Saturday, which somehow took out all of Indiana and Illinois, which" }, { "start": 245.48, "end": 251.44, "text": " leads me to the obvious question, why is Comcast's infrastructure such that a single cable cut" }, { "start": 251.44, "end": 252.82, "text": " takes down two states?" }, { "start": 252.82, "end": 256.92, "text": " Which leads me to the next question of why are you at all surprised?" }, { "start": 256.92, "end": 259.68, "text": " Yeah, yeah, fair enough." }, { "start": 259.68, "end": 268.84, "text": " But then I also, I talked to a Comcast person earlier today who I think heard my rant, and" }, { "start": 268.84, "end": 275.71999999999997, "text": " she said that there is a problem with my node, whatever that means." }, { "start": 275.71999999999997, "end": 276.71999999999997, "text": " Wow." }, { "start": 276.71999999999997, "end": 278.28, "text": " I have absolutely no idea what that means." }, { "start": 278.28, "end": 282.76, "text": " That almost sounds like a diss or a threat, I don't really know." }, { "start": 282.76, "end": 286.59999999999997, "text": " But so anyway, this is the hell I've been living since Saturday." }, { "start": 286.59999999999997, "end": 291.08, "text": " It's ongoing, that's why you can't see my beautiful face right now, and hopefully it'll" }, { "start": 291.08, "end": 292.56, "text": " be resolved this week." }, { "start": 292.56, "end": 298.24, "text": " Well, I think maybe the node she's speaking about is, I'm not really sure how Comcast" }, { "start": 298.24, "end": 303.36, "text": " does it, but when you have fiber to the cabinet, the cabinet is usually the node where the" }, { "start": 303.36, "end": 309.32, "text": " fiber ends up and then the copper starts coming out." }, { "start": 309.32, "end": 318.4, "text": " And also, if I can just hijack or jump on Chris's tale of woe, well, my video is gone," }, { "start": 318.4, "end": 320.44, "text": " which is perfectly fitting." }, { "start": 320.44, "end": 328.88, "text": " But yeah, I've had wireless issues and issues with my ISP the whole weekend and Monday night" }, { "start": 328.88, "end": 334.15999999999997, "text": " as well, and the thing that actually frustrates me, and I don't think it's terribly unusual," }, { "start": 334.16, "end": 339.48, "text": " is how many Wi-Fi networks I can actually pick up in my home, and there's usually a" }, { "start": 339.48, "end": 341.96000000000004, "text": " solid dozen of all my neighbors." }, { "start": 341.96000000000004, "end": 348.20000000000005, "text": " But the thing is, in spite of the fact that some of us share a front door in the building" }, { "start": 348.20000000000005, "end": 353.64000000000004, "text": " and all of us share a street, we don't know each other, and if we don't know each other," }, { "start": 353.64000000000004, "end": 357.46000000000004, "text": " we're not exactly going to trust each other with sharing Wi-Fi passwords." }, { "start": 357.46000000000004, "end": 362, "text": " So when my connection cuts out, I need to go out and hit the library or hit a coffee" }, { "start": 362, "end": 367.96, "text": " shop or whatever to continue working, whereas if we were actually social beings, as opposed" }, { "start": 367.96, "end": 373.52, "text": " to being social and things like Twitter, we could save ourselves a lot of hassle." }, { "start": 373.52, "end": 374.52, "text": " But I just, you know." }, { "start": 374.52, "end": 378.62, "text": " I don't think that's true, Vlad, because I mean, if I had access to my neighbor's" }, { "start": 378.62, "end": 384.6, "text": " Wi-Fi, that's where I'd download all my illegal, you know, all my pirated stuff, you know?" }, { "start": 384.6, "end": 385.6, "text": " And then all that gets recorded in the data." }, { "start": 385.6, "end": 389.64, "text": " Okay, so the downfall of society is basically your fault, Chris." }, { "start": 389.64, "end": 394.32, "text": " I think the minor inconvenience of once in a while having to go to a coffee shop is much" }, { "start": 394.32, "end": 398.68, "text": " less than the major inconvenience of having to get to know your neighbors." }, { "start": 398.68, "end": 401.96, "text": " It's a good point." }, { "start": 401.96, "end": 402.96, "text": " Touche." }, { "start": 402.96, "end": 410.12, "text": " Or, you know, you could just pay for internet that works and not have it fail." }, { "start": 410.12, "end": 414.68, "text": " Comcast has actually been super reliable for me in the past, and then over the course of" }, { "start": 414.68, "end": 419.72, "text": " the last four months or so, the frequency of outages has become greater and greater" }, { "start": 419.72, "end": 424.40000000000003, "text": " and greater, and this is kind of the icing on the cake." }, { "start": 424.40000000000003, "end": 425.40000000000003, "text": " So we'll see." }, { "start": 425.40000000000003, "end": 428.56, "text": " They're supposed to call me today to discuss my woe." }, { "start": 428.56, "end": 429.56, "text": " They haven't yet." }, { "start": 429.56, "end": 430.56, "text": " We'll see if it happens." }, { "start": 430.56, "end": 434.44, "text": " But then again, I can't get a phone call because I rely on a micro cell, which relies on the" }, { "start": 434.44, "end": 435.44, "text": " internet." }, { "start": 435.44, "end": 437.86, "text": " So we're back to square one." }, { "start": 437.86, "end": 445, "text": " And that's it from the Verge broadband report." }, { "start": 445, "end": 448.96000000000004, "text": " Look, man, I don't know." }, { "start": 448.96000000000004, "end": 453.08000000000004, "text": " I have no sympathy for any of you because I have files, and when it fails, I'll demand" }, { "start": 453.08000000000004, "end": 454.40000000000003, "text": " sympathy from you." }, { "start": 454.40000000000003, "end": 456.96000000000004, "text": " But until then, you're on your own." }, { "start": 456.96000000000004, "end": 460.48, "text": " Is Hangouts acting differently now?" }, { "start": 460.48, "end": 463.92, "text": " What thing shows on the screen is completely random?" }, { "start": 463.92, "end": 467.52000000000004, "text": " Hangouts is different every single week, so I don't even know if I can answer that question." }, { "start": 467.52, "end": 470.64, "text": " It's like, I don't know." }, { "start": 470.64, "end": 474.03999999999996, "text": " All of you guys look like really beautiful, pulsing circles." }, { "start": 474.03999999999996, "end": 475.03999999999996, "text": " It's kind of like hypnotic." }, { "start": 475.03999999999996, "end": 477.08, "text": " You're all pulsing circles for me." }, { "start": 477.08, "end": 481.96, "text": " Yeah, well, when I talk, your circle stays on the screen because that's what the people" }, { "start": 481.96, "end": 482.96, "text": " want to see." }, { "start": 482.96, "end": 485.88, "text": " The people just want to see Chris Ziegler, and I don't blame them." }, { "start": 485.88, "end": 488.24, "text": " I don't blame them either." }, { "start": 488.24, "end": 489.24, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 489.24, "end": 492.24, "text": " Actually, what the people want to—no, this is a terrible transition." }, { "start": 492.24, "end": 493.24, "text": " I'm doing it anyway." }, { "start": 493.24, "end": 494.24, "text": " I'm powering through." }, { "start": 494.24, "end": 499.52, "text": " What the people want to see is how Virtu makes its ridiculously, insanely expensive phones," }, { "start": 499.52, "end": 502.72, "text": " and Vlad went to the factory." }, { "start": 502.72, "end": 504.18, "text": " Give us the—set the scene." }, { "start": 504.18, "end": 505.8, "text": " Where is this place?" }, { "start": 505.8, "end": 508.44, "text": " What's going on here?" }, { "start": 508.44, "end": 511.96000000000004, "text": " Well, set the scene." }, { "start": 511.96000000000004, "end": 517.12, "text": " First of all, I've got to say, the guys at Virtu were extremely accommodating, extremely" }, { "start": 517.12, "end": 519.44, "text": " nice, and I have to acknowledge that." }, { "start": 519.44, "end": 524.9200000000001, "text": " For a luxury company, they were just so modest and sweet." }, { "start": 524.9200000000001, "end": 527.1600000000001, "text": " It was really surprising." }, { "start": 527.1600000000001, "end": 531.6800000000001, "text": " Usually you kind of expect—and to be honest, I've been in Virtu stores, and the vibe you" }, { "start": 531.6800000000001, "end": 535.7600000000001, "text": " get in those places is not one of, welcome, everybody." }, { "start": 535.7600000000001, "end": 537.32, "text": " We're nice to you." }, { "start": 537.32, "end": 540.72, "text": " If you don't look like you have millions of dollars in the bank, they're not particularly" }, { "start": 540.72, "end": 544.24, "text": " interested because they know they're not going to sell you anything, but anyhow." }, { "start": 544.24, "end": 549.4000000000001, "text": " So the Virtu HQ, this is a place on the outskirts of London near a place called Fleet." }, { "start": 549.4, "end": 556.16, "text": " The specific location is called Church Crookham, which is just a really amusing name, and" }, { "start": 556.16, "end": 562.24, "text": " also worth mentioning, the Virtu chief designer is called Hutch Hutchinson, which I would" }, { "start": 562.24, "end": 564.4, "text": " just love to be able to put that on a business card." }, { "start": 564.4, "end": 566.0799999999999, "text": " My name is Hutch Hutchinson." }, { "start": 566.0799999999999, "end": 571.24, "text": " I'm the chief designer of Virtu, and I work at Church Crookham, and I'm starring in the" }, { "start": 571.24, "end": 572.24, "text": " next Bond movie." }, { "start": 572.24, "end": 574.72, "text": " That is the most British thing I've ever heard." }, { "start": 574.72, "end": 579.3199999999999, "text": " But yeah, well, what are the important things about it?" }, { "start": 579.32, "end": 582.98, "text": " First of all, this is where every Virtu phone has been made from the beginning." }, { "start": 582.98, "end": 588.72, "text": " So it's one pretty large building, but it contains basically the entire Virtu operation." }, { "start": 588.72, "end": 593.6800000000001, "text": " They have another facility still in the UK which handles repairs, but this is where every" }, { "start": 593.6800000000001, "end": 596.5200000000001, "text": " phone is manufactured." }, { "start": 596.5200000000001, "end": 600.32, "text": " And it has an atrium on the inside, high ceilings." }, { "start": 600.32, "end": 608.12, "text": " It's kind of like, it's a mix between a manufacturing spot, a factory, and just a classy modern" }, { "start": 608.12, "end": 609.12, "text": " office." }, { "start": 609.12, "end": 614.64, "text": " It's just, what really surprised me about it is the scale, is how small it is and how" }, { "start": 614.64, "end": 616.4, "text": " compact the whole thing is." }, { "start": 616.4, "end": 620.2, "text": " So basically you walk in, and on the right side there's the design team, the admin team," }, { "start": 620.2, "end": 624.68, "text": " et cetera, et cetera, and on the left side there's the guys assembling the phones." }, { "start": 624.68, "end": 629.36, "text": " And while you're standing at reception, you can literally see through some darkened glass" }, { "start": 629.36, "end": 634.6800000000001, "text": " people putting together the $10,000 phones, which is kind of brilliant." }, { "start": 634.6800000000001, "end": 636.6800000000001, "text": " I have a question for you, Vlad." }, { "start": 636.68, "end": 639.88, "text": " You keep saying that they're assembling the phones." }, { "start": 639.88, "end": 644.5999999999999, "text": " So is this like the same kind of thing as Motorola's factory in Texas where all the" }, { "start": 644.5999999999999, "end": 650.52, "text": " parts are essentially made in Asia, shipped there, and then people hand assemble the phones?" }, { "start": 650.52, "end": 654.28, "text": " Or are there actual part manufacturing going on here?" }, { "start": 654.28, "end": 655.28, "text": " Oh, it's very different." }, { "start": 655.28, "end": 659.28, "text": " It's very different from the Moto operation." }, { "start": 659.28, "end": 661.38, "text": " There's a lot of custom made parts for every handset." }, { "start": 661.38, "end": 669.16, "text": " So a great example was the battery cover of the signature phone, which is $10,000 and" }, { "start": 669.16, "end": 670.16, "text": " above." }, { "start": 670.16, "end": 673.1, "text": " On the inside of it, they have this pattern." }, { "start": 673.1, "end": 676.28, "text": " It's an angular pattern, but the thing is, it's made out of metal." }, { "start": 676.28, "end": 680.16, "text": " And we're talking about the inside of a freaking battery cover, okay?" }, { "start": 680.16, "end": 685.16, "text": " This is the metric opposite of Samsung's plasticky thin cover." }, { "start": 685.16, "end": 693.12, "text": " On the inside, this pattern is very geometric, it's very pretty, but it's made in metal," }, { "start": 693.12, "end": 699.4399999999999, "text": " and it's done in such a refined fashion that when you actually touch it, there is no texture" }, { "start": 699.4399999999999, "end": 702.14, "text": " to the pattern." }, { "start": 702.14, "end": 707.7199999999999, "text": " So the amount of precision that's required in this is crazy." }, { "start": 707.7199999999999, "end": 710.72, "text": " The guy who explained it to me, he made the sound of kissing." }, { "start": 710.72, "end": 716.72, "text": " He's like, we just make it kiss the surface and then we pull it back, right?" }, { "start": 716.72, "end": 720.72, "text": " And I'm like, I believe that." }, { "start": 720.72, "end": 724.36, "text": " I believe that you're like almost kissing the thing." }, { "start": 724.36, "end": 727.08, "text": " They're really passionate about making their phones as well." }, { "start": 727.08, "end": 728.08, "text": " People invest their pride in it." }, { "start": 728.08, "end": 735.08, "text": " But the thing he told me is that 15% of those parts get thrown away because they're imperfect." }, { "start": 735.08, "end": 739.28, "text": " And this is the thing that sits next to the battery, the thing that you pretty much never" }, { "start": 739.28, "end": 740.28, "text": " see." }, { "start": 740.28, "end": 744.8399999999999, "text": " So what you're telling me is that there's good money to be made in standing by Virtu's" }, { "start": 744.8399999999999, "end": 753.12, "text": " dumpster, collecting discarded parts and making secondhand Virtus that are almost as good." }, { "start": 753.12, "end": 759.6, "text": " If you could cobble together the discarded sapphire crystals and things like that and" }, { "start": 759.6, "end": 763.36, "text": " throw together a Virtu lookalike, you could probably get 500 bucks for it." }, { "start": 763.36, "end": 767.1999999999999, "text": " The cityscape like renowned British sculptor Richard Wilson did." }, { "start": 767.1999999999999, "end": 769.4399999999999, "text": " Yes, so Virtu has a plan." }, { "start": 769.44, "end": 774.8000000000001, "text": " Even the discarded parts, probably because it's so freaking expensive, it's turned them" }, { "start": 774.8000000000001, "end": 783.5, "text": " into a kind of a scale model of a futuristic city which is, I don't know, two square meters." }, { "start": 783.5, "end": 785.32, "text": " It's a really nice thing." }, { "start": 785.32, "end": 790.2600000000001, "text": " I didn't understand it because it was like usually it's right next to their reception" }, { "start": 790.2600000000001, "end": 795.2, "text": " area and usually when companies do that, it's the wide facilities or like a map or something" }, { "start": 795.2, "end": 796.48, "text": " related to the company." }, { "start": 796.48, "end": 803.72, "text": " But this was just having fun with essentially rejected parts, antennas, display panels," }, { "start": 803.72, "end": 807.2, "text": " etc. etc. and it's just made to be futuristic." }, { "start": 807.2, "end": 811.6800000000001, "text": " And they are going to make money out of it because they're going to auction it off for" }, { "start": 811.6800000000001, "end": 812.6800000000001, "text": " charity." }, { "start": 812.6800000000001, "end": 817.44, "text": " So they have a plan for the rejected parts even though Chris' strategy, always thinking" }, { "start": 817.44, "end": 821.4200000000001, "text": " with his business mind, isn't a terrible one to be honest." }, { "start": 821.4200000000001, "end": 822.88, "text": " So here's the thing that I don't get." }, { "start": 822.88, "end": 830.64, "text": " Like when I imagine Virtu, I imagine that they're like pumping out like five phones" }, { "start": 830.64, "end": 833.76, "text": " a week and they're just selling them for ridiculous amounts of money." }, { "start": 833.76, "end": 839.72, "text": " But looking through your pictures here, they're making a ton of these things relative to what" }, { "start": 839.72, "end": 841.96, "text": " I imagined." }, { "start": 841.96, "end": 845.04, "text": " Do you have any idea how many phones are kicking out a day out of this place?" }, { "start": 845.04, "end": 848.2, "text": " It seems like they're working on a whole bunch at a time and there's a whole lot more" }, { "start": 848.2, "end": 849.2, "text": " people." }, { "start": 849.2, "end": 854.96, "text": " They're putting like, I don't know, five jewelers in a room hand crafting phones one" }, { "start": 854.96, "end": 855.96, "text": " by one." }, { "start": 855.96, "end": 861.1600000000001, "text": " Like an order comes in and they're like, alright Jim, you go do it." }, { "start": 861.1600000000001, "end": 865.74, "text": " I'm trying to think what the market is for $10,000 phones and apparently it's way bigger" }, { "start": 865.74, "end": 866.74, "text": " than I expected." }, { "start": 866.74, "end": 868.34, "text": " The market is Gwyneth Paltrow." }, { "start": 868.34, "end": 870.6800000000001, "text": " She is a known Virtu fanatic." }, { "start": 870.6800000000001, "end": 871.6800000000001, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 871.6800000000001, "end": 875.5200000000001, "text": " They're making all of them for her?" }, { "start": 875.5200000000001, "end": 876.5200000000001, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 876.52, "end": 879.72, "text": " And what's his name from Coldplay, her husband?" }, { "start": 879.72, "end": 882.92, "text": " Well, the dude from Coldplay." }, { "start": 882.92, "end": 883.92, "text": " The dude." }, { "start": 883.92, "end": 886.92, "text": " I'm sure people will find him." }, { "start": 886.92, "end": 890.0799999999999, "text": " To answer Dieter's question, how many phones are they shipping out is exactly what they" }, { "start": 890.0799999999999, "end": 893.04, "text": " wouldn't tell me." }, { "start": 893.04, "end": 900.4399999999999, "text": " But from my observations, I walk through the entire process from start to finish and packing" }, { "start": 900.4399999999999, "end": 905.24, "text": " and putting it in boxes and getting them ready to ship." }, { "start": 905.24, "end": 908.8, "text": " And there was always a phone in progress." }, { "start": 908.8, "end": 913.36, "text": " So to Dieter's point, they are doing a higher volume than most of us probably expect." }, { "start": 913.36, "end": 920.72, "text": " In total though, since its beginning, Virtu has shipped roughly 350,000 phones." }, { "start": 920.72, "end": 926.28, "text": " And I can imagine they've started ramping up more recently and the numbers are growing." }, { "start": 926.28, "end": 930.6, "text": " And particularly now that they're doing Android phones and touch screens and Google Play Store" }, { "start": 930.6, "end": 935.16, "text": " access and all of these more contemporary features, you can see a whole new audience" }, { "start": 935.16, "end": 937.48, "text": " opening up to their devices." }, { "start": 937.48, "end": 942.48, "text": " But actually, to Dan's point, you know, Dan said, hey Jim, we've got an order, pick it" }, { "start": 942.48, "end": 943.48, "text": " up." }, { "start": 943.48, "end": 947.12, "text": " That is actually very close to what Virtu is doing." }, { "start": 947.12, "end": 952.48, "text": " Because one person is responsible for each handset and at the end when the handset is" }, { "start": 952.48, "end": 957, "text": " completed, there's a laser engraving somewhere on it with that person's signature." }, { "start": 957, "end": 964.16, "text": " Now that doesn't mean that they make every single part because they do essentially serialize" }, { "start": 964.16, "end": 965.16, "text": " some of the tasks." }, { "start": 965.16, "end": 969.76, "text": " So some of the polishing, I think some guys are just doing polishing and some guys are" }, { "start": 969.76, "end": 972.96, "text": " just doing whatever which might require more expertise." }, { "start": 972.96, "end": 978.24, "text": " But generally speaking, one person is assembling the components of the motherboard, screwing" }, { "start": 978.24, "end": 984.24, "text": " that down into the case, polishing it, testing it, et cetera, et cetera." }, { "start": 984.24, "end": 989.96, "text": " And Virtu have actually had customers call in and say, I would like Wendy, and there" }, { "start": 989.96, "end": 994.64, "text": " is a lady called Wendy Bevan who's been with Virtu from the beginning, I would like Wendy" }, { "start": 994.64, "end": 996.96, "text": " to put together my next phone." }, { "start": 996.96, "end": 1002.6, "text": " And then the Wendy in question was apparently in the brink of tears because she was really" }, { "start": 1002.6, "end": 1003.6, "text": " humbled by that." }, { "start": 1003.6, "end": 1004.6, "text": " Wow." }, { "start": 1004.6, "end": 1008.88, "text": " Does she get a tip?" }, { "start": 1008.88, "end": 1009.88, "text": " I don't know about that." }, { "start": 1009.88, "end": 1012.04, "text": " And Chris, stop thinking about money, man." }, { "start": 1012.04, "end": 1013.04, "text": " Come on." }, { "start": 1013.04, "end": 1016.8, "text": " I don't know, Vlad, did you bring the Blackberry Pananana with you?" }, { "start": 1016.8, "end": 1017.8, "text": " I did!" }, { "start": 1017.8, "end": 1025.8, "text": " And did you compare it to the Virtus and which one is more luxurious?" }, { "start": 1025.8, "end": 1026.8, "text": " Very good question there." }, { "start": 1026.8, "end": 1027.8, "text": " Fantastic." }, { "start": 1027.8, "end": 1033.34, "text": " I mean, the first thing I had to do was present Virtu's chief of design with a Blackberry" }, { "start": 1033.34, "end": 1038.56, "text": " Pananana 999A2 and ask him what he thinks of it." }, { "start": 1038.56, "end": 1041.96, "text": " And actually he was more positive on it than I thought." }, { "start": 1041.96, "end": 1043.68, "text": " I mean, he called it incredible effort." }, { "start": 1043.68, "end": 1048.48, "text": " I don't think that was pure diplomacy." }, { "start": 1048.48, "end": 1053.92, "text": " He was like, I think it's honest design because it's honest in terms of what it wants to be" }, { "start": 1053.92, "end": 1056.8, "text": " and what it wants to present and project to people." }, { "start": 1056.8, "end": 1058.48, "text": " It's quite a clean design." }, { "start": 1058.48, "end": 1062.6000000000001, "text": " Of course, he's a designer, he's not talking about the software, which obviously would" }, { "start": 1062.6000000000001, "end": 1066.3600000000001, "text": " be a whole other bag of hurt." }, { "start": 1066.36, "end": 1073.1999999999998, "text": " But yeah, I compared the two, there's the Virtu Constellation, which is the most affordable" }, { "start": 1073.1999999999998, "end": 1074.52, "text": " handset you can get." }, { "start": 1074.52, "end": 1076.76, "text": " You're saying affordable very loosely." }, { "start": 1076.76, "end": 1077.76, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1077.76, "end": 1082.12, "text": " It's not for like 5,000 euro or whatever it is." }, { "start": 1082.12, "end": 1083.12, "text": " Oh, just that?" }, { "start": 1083.12, "end": 1084.12, "text": " I'll take two." }, { "start": 1084.12, "end": 1085.12, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1085.12, "end": 1088.56, "text": " I mean, if you get a nice tax break, you probably cover that." }, { "start": 1088.56, "end": 1094.4399999999998, "text": " But that's if you, Vlad, to be clear, that's if you get it without any options, right?" }, { "start": 1094.44, "end": 1098.04, "text": " Like you can get them in gold, you can get them with diamonds or whatever you want." }, { "start": 1098.04, "end": 1099.04, "text": " That's right." }, { "start": 1099.04, "end": 1107.04, "text": " I would like to point out, somebody else covered my article with the visit to Virtu and he" }, { "start": 1107.04, "end": 1111.6000000000001, "text": " said that they make phones up to $15,000 in price." }, { "start": 1111.6000000000001, "end": 1113.6000000000001, "text": " And that is not correct." }, { "start": 1113.6000000000001, "end": 1117.76, "text": " $15,000 is where the top end Virtu begins." }, { "start": 1117.76, "end": 1123.4, "text": " There are parts and components that you can put on in customizations and laser engravings" }, { "start": 1123.4, "end": 1130.4, "text": " and I mean, you can basically quote them and say, I want you to draw the Mona Lisa in diamonds" }, { "start": 1130.4, "end": 1132.92, "text": " on the side of this phone and they will do it." }, { "start": 1132.92, "end": 1136.48, "text": " Because they have the skills, they have the expertise and they have the diamonds." }, { "start": 1136.48, "end": 1137.48, "text": " I hate to say this." }, { "start": 1137.48, "end": 1141.0400000000002, "text": " I'm actually, I'm on Virtu's site right now." }, { "start": 1141.0400000000002, "end": 1148.4, "text": " The signature in black stainless with white ceramic inserts is absolutely gorgeous." }, { "start": 1148.4, "end": 1150.4, "text": " It's a really beautiful phone." }, { "start": 1150.4, "end": 1152, "text": " I would rock that." }, { "start": 1152, "end": 1156.64, "text": " With Android 4.0 and a 5 year old processor." }, { "start": 1156.64, "end": 1157.64, "text": " So here's the thing." }, { "start": 1157.64, "end": 1159.64, "text": " The signature is that's $340 right?" }, { "start": 1159.64, "end": 1166.94, "text": " We do need to point out that I understand spending, okay I don't really, but I can live" }, { "start": 1166.94, "end": 1171.76, "text": " in a world where I understand spending tens of thousands of dollars on jewelry." }, { "start": 1171.76, "end": 1176.26, "text": " On something precious that I will have with me or that I will keep in my house that is" }, { "start": 1176.26, "end": 1180.56, "text": " beautiful and expensive and unique and amazing." }, { "start": 1180.56, "end": 1191.08, "text": " The problem that I have with Virtu is that it's tied to a thing, a computer that is essentially" }, { "start": 1191.08, "end": 1192.9199999999998, "text": " not going to be timeless." }, { "start": 1192.9199999999998, "end": 1201.08, "text": " It is going to get old and break down and at that point, like what do you do with the" }, { "start": 1201.08, "end": 1202.08, "text": " rest of it?" }, { "start": 1202.08, "end": 1206.6799999999998, "text": " Well, I think here's my theory and Vlad maybe you can expand on this, but my theory with" }, { "start": 1206.68, "end": 1212.04, "text": " Virtu has always been that the kinds of people that buy these phones are the kinds of people" }, { "start": 1212.04, "end": 1215.64, "text": " who don't want to deal with their phone, they just want to press the concierge button on" }, { "start": 1215.64, "end": 1219.4, "text": " the side and talk to someone who makes magic happen at any cost." }, { "start": 1219.4, "end": 1224.04, "text": " And if you look at the signature series in particular, if you look at, you know it's" }, { "start": 1224.04, "end": 1228.88, "text": " been around for a long time and if you look at a signature from say 2005, 2006, it looks" }, { "start": 1228.88, "end": 1232.2, "text": " basically the same as a signature from 2013." }, { "start": 1232.2, "end": 1237.24, "text": " So they've done a good job of making at least that line in their design DNA kind of timeless." }, { "start": 1237.24, "end": 1241.88, "text": " I'm sure the innards have changed, I'm sure it's 3G or maybe even LTE now whereas it used" }, { "start": 1241.88, "end": 1247.44, "text": " to be Edge, but the appearance of the phone is the same and frankly for what people are" }, { "start": 1247.44, "end": 1252.96, "text": " doing with these phones which is pressing the concierge button, a 2005 Edge signature" }, { "start": 1252.96, "end": 1254.76, "text": " works just fine." }, { "start": 1254.76, "end": 1262.04, "text": " I'm curious Vlad, did you ask about the concierge service and how much it's used by Virtu owners?" }, { "start": 1262.04, "end": 1269.72, "text": " I did, I did and they have metrics which they get to share, but they say it gets a lot of" }, { "start": 1269.72, "end": 1270.72, "text": " use." }, { "start": 1270.72, "end": 1275.54, "text": " But what I noticed was that the latest Android phones, the cheaper ones, aren't getting as" }, { "start": 1275.54, "end": 1280.32, "text": " much use as signature ones, but that basically goes to Chris' point." }, { "start": 1280.32, "end": 1285.76, "text": " Also Dan, I saw you grinning when Chris said maybe it has LTE and you're like no it doesn't." }, { "start": 1285.76, "end": 1287.76, "text": " That is exactly the case." }, { "start": 1287.76, "end": 1288.76, "text": " There is no LTE here." }, { "start": 1288.76, "end": 1289.76, "text": " Oh come on." }, { "start": 1289.76, "end": 1297.12, "text": " And I mean seriously, the signature, again the most expensive phone is basically unchanged" }, { "start": 1297.12, "end": 1301.8799999999999, "text": " since it was introduced in 2008." }, { "start": 1301.8799999999999, "end": 1305.72, "text": " The fact it runs Nokia Series 40 is just amazing to me." }, { "start": 1305.72, "end": 1308.84, "text": " And the screen is probably like what?" }, { "start": 1308.84, "end": 1312.2, "text": " The same resolution as my Pebble?" }, { "start": 1312.2, "end": 1314.32, "text": " More or less, it's a color screen." }, { "start": 1314.32, "end": 1315.32, "text": " It's color." }, { "start": 1315.32, "end": 1316.32, "text": " You got that going on for you." }, { "start": 1316.32, "end": 1321.6, "text": " I mean it's a 2006 or 2007 era Nokia with a fancy shell on it." }, { "start": 1321.6, "end": 1322.6, "text": " That's what it is." }, { "start": 1322.6, "end": 1325.6, "text": " Right, but you buy it for the fancy shell." }, { "start": 1325.6, "end": 1326.6, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 1326.6, "end": 1332.1599999999999, "text": " You buy it for the… and listen, the thing is I am really surprised by how candid Virtu" }, { "start": 1332.1599999999999, "end": 1334.96, "text": " were about their motivations as well." }, { "start": 1334.96, "end": 1341.02, "text": " They weren't trying to spin a whole other story about giving people the best in technology" }, { "start": 1341.02, "end": 1342.02, "text": " and what not." }, { "start": 1342.02, "end": 1345.1, "text": " They're not particularly interested in competing on specs." }, { "start": 1345.1, "end": 1349.8, "text": " They want to have leadership, but their idea of leadership is we'll give you the customer" }, { "start": 1349.8, "end": 1351.6799999999998, "text": " service and the customer care." }, { "start": 1351.6799999999998, "end": 1356.32, "text": " And frankly they do give you that because when you call up tech support with Virtu," }, { "start": 1356.32, "end": 1359.24, "text": " you call the guys in that building." }, { "start": 1359.24, "end": 1364.08, "text": " So when somebody picks up a tech support at Virtu, they can literally yell at a person" }, { "start": 1364.08, "end": 1367.04, "text": " who put together your phone." }, { "start": 1367.04, "end": 1373.1599999999999, "text": " It can be like, you know what, Yuri from Moscow ordered Alpine leather and he did not get" }, { "start": 1373.1599999999999, "end": 1374.1599999999999, "text": " that." }, { "start": 1374.16, "end": 1380.3200000000002, "text": " So anyone from Moscow knows about leather because he's Yuri from Moscow." }, { "start": 1380.3200000000002, "end": 1385.4, "text": " And also to that point, the leather on the Virtu Constellation is a little bit rougher" }, { "start": 1385.4, "end": 1390.5800000000002, "text": " in texture, a little bit more sensual than the leather on the BlackGrey Porsche design." }, { "start": 1390.5800000000002, "end": 1394.0800000000002, "text": " So if you're picking between the two, I would say Virtu has the better leather, but" }, { "start": 1394.0800000000002, "end": 1396.52, "text": " then it also costs twice as much." }, { "start": 1396.52, "end": 1400.3600000000001, "text": " But then again if you're spending thousands upon thousands of whatever currency you choose" }, { "start": 1400.36, "end": 1407.36, "text": " on a phone, again I don't even think the considerations that Dieter presented are particularly important" }, { "start": 1407.36, "end": 1408.36, "text": " to these people." }, { "start": 1408.36, "end": 1413.74, "text": " Like it's not really a case of I want to have like a family heirloom that I pass down to" }, { "start": 1413.74, "end": 1414.74, "text": " whatever." }, { "start": 1414.74, "end": 1417.24, "text": " So it's just pure ostentation." }, { "start": 1417.24, "end": 1419.36, "text": " Well it is, it is." }, { "start": 1419.36, "end": 1424.6799999999998, "text": " And Virtu, the Virtu guy said to me, when you pull out the signature and you put that" }, { "start": 1424.6799999999998, "end": 1429.4199999999998, "text": " thing down on the table, that basically says to people, I'm the boss." }, { "start": 1429.42, "end": 1434.96, "text": " So there isn't a question about who is the chief in whatever the hell is going on here." }, { "start": 1434.96, "end": 1441.88, "text": " Well I was never in doubt that Gwyneth Paltrow is the boss." }, { "start": 1441.88, "end": 1445.0800000000002, "text": " I mean if I sat down at a table with her." }, { "start": 1445.0800000000002, "end": 1447.0800000000002, "text": " I thought it was Tony Danza." }, { "start": 1447.0800000000002, "end": 1450.24, "text": " Yes, Tony Danza probably can't afford a Virtu unfortunately." }, { "start": 1450.24, "end": 1452.8400000000001, "text": " Oh man, Danza burns." }, { "start": 1452.84, "end": 1460, "text": " Wait a minute, hang on, isn't there some like back catalog for a global show where we made" }, { "start": 1460, "end": 1461, "text": " fun of Tony Danza?" }, { "start": 1461, "end": 1465.24, "text": " I seem to recall this happening." }, { "start": 1465.24, "end": 1466.24, "text": " Poor Tony Danza." }, { "start": 1466.24, "end": 1470.36, "text": " Talking about like back in the legit Panda days when that was a running joke." }, { "start": 1470.36, "end": 1475.04, "text": " I feel like, poor Tony." }, { "start": 1475.04, "end": 1481.1599999999999, "text": " Yeah I don't know, I mean I hate to, the standard joke about Virtu is oh my god why would anybody" }, { "start": 1481.16, "end": 1484.5600000000002, "text": " spend that much money on a phone, what idiots, it's going to be obsolete and this is just" }, { "start": 1484.5600000000002, "end": 1489.16, "text": " money and I want to look deeper than that at this." }, { "start": 1489.16, "end": 1493.8400000000001, "text": " But at the end of the day, it's a lot of rich people things." }, { "start": 1493.8400000000001, "end": 1499.46, "text": " It's very cool, very well made, very interesting, rich people things." }, { "start": 1499.46, "end": 1504.6000000000001, "text": " It's just like Birkin bags and all those other things that are obscenely expensive" }, { "start": 1504.6000000000001, "end": 1510.52, "text": " and they become out of date in a season and they end up who knows where." }, { "start": 1510.52, "end": 1511.52, "text": " It's the same thing." }, { "start": 1511.52, "end": 1519.8, "text": " But if you buy a $50,000 watch, the $50,000 watch isn't like out of date and can't run" }, { "start": 1519.8, "end": 1524.04, "text": " its software and tell you the time in 10 years." }, { "start": 1524.04, "end": 1525.04, "text": " That's what I'm saying." }, { "start": 1525.04, "end": 1526.04, "text": " Not yet." }, { "start": 1526.04, "end": 1528.6399999999999, "text": " Not until you have a smaller watch." }, { "start": 1528.6399999999999, "end": 1530.2, "text": " I'm actually kind of surprised." }, { "start": 1530.2, "end": 1532.56, "text": " Oh my god, Virtu watch." }, { "start": 1532.56, "end": 1538.24, "text": " Maybe Virtu does have either a trade in program or an upgrade program where they can swap" }, { "start": 1538.24, "end": 1540.12, "text": " the guts out on the device." }, { "start": 1540.12, "end": 1548.32, "text": " Well while we're bringing up watches and Virtu, there was a report recently that an ex-Virtu" }, { "start": 1548.32, "end": 1554.1999999999998, "text": " designer or current Virtu designer is working with MetaWatch on an upcoming smart watch." }, { "start": 1554.1999999999998, "end": 1557.1999999999998, "text": " He is the guy who started up Virtu." }, { "start": 1557.1999999999998, "end": 1561.52, "text": " He was head of design at Nokia." }, { "start": 1561.52, "end": 1563.6, "text": " Yeah Frank Nuova was his name, right?" }, { "start": 1563.6, "end": 1564.6, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1564.6, "end": 1566.2399999999998, "text": " That was a dude." }, { "start": 1566.24, "end": 1571.1200000000001, "text": " Yeah I mean it's, you know, I've said for a long time and I still will say, MetaWatch" }, { "start": 1571.1200000000001, "end": 1576.86, "text": " has exactly two problems that prevent it from being a much better solution than Pebble." }, { "start": 1576.86, "end": 1581.4, "text": " One is the display is a sick, sick joke." }, { "start": 1581.4, "end": 1584.16, "text": " And two, they have some work to do on design." }, { "start": 1584.16, "end": 1590.04, "text": " I mean the frame actually is a pretty good looking model but the strata is really unattractive." }, { "start": 1590.04, "end": 1595.44, "text": " And getting some serious design chops on board hopefully will do some good things for them." }, { "start": 1595.44, "end": 1596.44, "text": " Well I think it would do…" }, { "start": 1596.44, "end": 1599.0800000000002, "text": " A screen that isn't a steaming pile of reflective garbage." }, { "start": 1599.0800000000002, "end": 1600.0800000000002, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 1600.0800000000002, "end": 1604.72, "text": " Having good design chops would do good things for this burgeoning smart watch industry as" }, { "start": 1604.72, "end": 1605.72, "text": " a whole, right?" }, { "start": 1605.72, "end": 1606.72, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 1606.72, "end": 1611.1200000000001, "text": " I mean that's probably the biggest complaint levied against the Pebble, you know, aside" }, { "start": 1611.1200000000001, "end": 1615.02, "text": " from maybe it can be a bit of user interface issues." }, { "start": 1615.02, "end": 1618.44, "text": " But most people complain that it just looks cheap and like a toy and they don't want" }, { "start": 1618.44, "end": 1622.48, "text": " to wear it because it doesn't match their suit or it just doesn't have the high end" }, { "start": 1622.48, "end": 1626.48, "text": " feel that even a watch of a comparable price offers." }, { "start": 1626.48, "end": 1631.6200000000001, "text": " So if this does come through and actually happens and you know, Metawatch is able to" }, { "start": 1631.6200000000001, "end": 1639.1200000000001, "text": " release a watch that can match the craftsmanship that you get on a regular wristwatch, that" }, { "start": 1639.1200000000001, "end": 1641.76, "text": " would be very good for the wearable world." }, { "start": 1641.76, "end": 1644.92, "text": " I thought you were about to say match the craftsmanship with the Pebble and I was going" }, { "start": 1644.92, "end": 1651.16, "text": " to reach through the microphone and punch you in the face." }, { "start": 1651.16, "end": 1655.6000000000001, "text": " So listen guys, I just wanted to wrap up with just a couple of points." }, { "start": 1655.6000000000001, "end": 1657.6000000000001, "text": " Yeah, enough." }, { "start": 1657.6000000000001, "end": 1658.6000000000001, "text": " Wrap it." }, { "start": 1658.6000000000001, "end": 1663.5, "text": " Very briefly, one of the things that really amused me and the thing that I couldn't photograph" }, { "start": 1663.5, "end": 1668.38, "text": " was the fact that they actually have essentially a bank vault at the back of the packaging" }, { "start": 1668.38, "end": 1669.38, "text": " facility." }, { "start": 1669.38, "end": 1670.38, "text": " They wouldn't let you take a picture of the bank vault?" }, { "start": 1670.38, "end": 1671.38, "text": " No." }, { "start": 1671.38, "end": 1676.72, "text": " Like there's going to be an Ocean's 15 style like George Clooney and Brad Pitt are going" }, { "start": 1676.72, "end": 1678.8000000000002, "text": " to come and steal all their phones?" }, { "start": 1678.8, "end": 1682.24, "text": " The door was wider than I don't know, my body." }, { "start": 1682.24, "end": 1686.84, "text": " It was just massively wide door and then you've got steel bars and behind the steel bars." }, { "start": 1686.84, "end": 1689.44, "text": " Speaking of ostentation for ostentation's sake, that's hilarious." }, { "start": 1689.44, "end": 1691.44, "text": " Yeah, I guess that's fair, right?" }, { "start": 1691.44, "end": 1696.12, "text": " I mean if they're storing diamonds and gold and sapphires and all this other crap that" }, { "start": 1696.12, "end": 1699.1599999999999, "text": " they glue on there, I guess they need to keep it safe, right?" }, { "start": 1699.1599999999999, "end": 1704.32, "text": " Yeah, I mean Dan had to you know, class it up by saying they glue all that crap on but" }, { "start": 1704.32, "end": 1708.44, "text": " I mean those are expensive parts." }, { "start": 1708.44, "end": 1714.48, "text": " Set aside the whole phone element of it, they work with some seriously expensive components" }, { "start": 1714.48, "end": 1720.4, "text": " and I mean it's like things like the alligator skin on the S40 handset that I had which I" }, { "start": 1720.4, "end": 1725.44, "text": " have to tell you is completely indistinguishable from anything else." }, { "start": 1725.44, "end": 1730.16, "text": " It's just kind of like any other surface." }, { "start": 1730.16, "end": 1734.04, "text": " There's nothing alligator about it but then again I haven't fondled too many alligators" }, { "start": 1734.04, "end": 1735.04, "text": " to tell you." }, { "start": 1735.04, "end": 1738.04, "text": " It didn't try and bite you?" }, { "start": 1738.04, "end": 1739.04, "text": " No." }, { "start": 1739.04, "end": 1740.3999999999999, "text": " I mean the phone almost did." }, { "start": 1740.3999999999999, "end": 1741.56, "text": " It's so sharp and angular." }, { "start": 1741.56, "end": 1743.08, "text": " I mean these phones are crazy." }, { "start": 1743.08, "end": 1744.72, "text": " They're so macho." }, { "start": 1744.72, "end": 1750.8799999999999, "text": " This is why I think Chris is in love with them because they're just completely, totally" }, { "start": 1750.8799999999999, "end": 1752.48, "text": " you know." }, { "start": 1752.48, "end": 1755.6399999999999, "text": " So this is like the dream phone for the Droid set." }, { "start": 1755.6399999999999, "end": 1759.08, "text": " I don't know about the Droid set." }, { "start": 1759.08, "end": 1765.68, "text": " Like the ultra masculine, you know the whole Droid thing that Verizon's been doing for" }, { "start": 1765.68, "end": 1769.6000000000001, "text": " years with the ultra masculine angular edges." }, { "start": 1769.6000000000001, "end": 1774.96, "text": " See now I'm getting this vision of a bird suit with a Droid notification on it and it's" }, { "start": 1774.96, "end": 1775.96, "text": " just no." }, { "start": 1775.96, "end": 1776.96, "text": " That would be quite terrible." }, { "start": 1776.96, "end": 1777.96, "text": " Oh there he goes." }, { "start": 1777.96, "end": 1778.96, "text": " There goes Chicago." }, { "start": 1778.96, "end": 1779.96, "text": " He gets Chicago'd." }, { "start": 1779.96, "end": 1780.96, "text": " Chris just did the Chicago remix of himself." }, { "start": 1780.96, "end": 1781.96, "text": " Wait you can't hear me?" }, { "start": 1781.96, "end": 1782.96, "text": " No there you're back." }, { "start": 1782.96, "end": 1783.96, "text": " Okay I wanted to ask you what." }, { "start": 1783.96, "end": 1784.96, "text": " You heard me but like." }, { "start": 1784.96, "end": 1785.96, "text": " You heard me but like." }, { "start": 1785.96, "end": 1786.96, "text": " I'm sorry." }, { "start": 1786.96, "end": 1787.96, "text": " I'm sorry." }, { "start": 1787.96, "end": 1788.96, "text": " I'm sorry." }, { "start": 1788.96, "end": 1789.96, "text": " I'm sorry." }, { "start": 1789.96, "end": 1790.96, "text": " I'm sorry." }, { "start": 1790.96, "end": 1791.96, "text": " I'm sorry." }, { "start": 1791.96, "end": 1792.96, "text": " I'm sorry." }, { "start": 1792.96, "end": 1793.96, "text": " I'm sorry." }, { "start": 1793.96, "end": 1794.96, "text": " I'm sorry." }, { "start": 1794.96, "end": 1795.96, "text": " I'm sorry." }, { "start": 1795.96, "end": 1796.96, "text": " I'm sorry." }, { "start": 1796.96, "end": 1797.96, "text": " I'm sorry." }, { "start": 1797.96, "end": 1798.96, "text": " I'm sorry." }, { "start": 1798.96, "end": 1799.96, "text": " Okay so." }, { "start": 1799.96, "end": 1800.96, "text": " I just want to ask you what?" }, { "start": 1800.96, "end": 1801.96, "text": " You were talking to us through a mouth harp." }, { "start": 1801.96, "end": 1802.96, "text": " Which I don't know where you got a mouth harp." }, { "start": 1802.96, "end": 1803.96, "text": " But I'm very impressed." }, { "start": 1803.96, "end": 1804.96, "text": " But it was good." }, { "start": 1804.96, "end": 1805.96, "text": " Is that another word for harmonica?" }, { "start": 1805.96, "end": 1806.96, "text": " No." }, { "start": 1806.96, "end": 1810.02, "text": " I have no idea what a mouth harp is." }, { "start": 1810.02, "end": 1811.02, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1811.02, "end": 1812.02, "text": " Well no." }, { "start": 1812.02, "end": 1813.02, "text": " What's the thing called a little going doing doing." }, { "start": 1813.02, "end": 1814.02, "text": " What's that thing called?" }, { "start": 1814.02, "end": 1816.18, "text": " It's called a mouth harp right?" }, { "start": 1816.18, "end": 1817.96, "text": " Yeah it could be." }, { "start": 1817.96, "end": 1820.88, "text": " I'm going to have to wick from you in this switch room." }, { "start": 1820.88, "end": 1821.92, "text": " Yeah I know." }, { "start": 1821.92, "end": 1822.92, "text": " Okay yeah." }, { "start": 1822.92, "end": 1829, "text": " So my question for Vlad was, is there a signature vertu ringtone or sound set?" }, { "start": 1829, "end": 1833.48, "text": " Oh, they have custom ringtones and notifications, yes." }, { "start": 1833.48, "end": 1837.64, "text": " Do they have a composer who customizes ringtones for each client?" }, { "start": 1837.64, "end": 1839.68, "text": " It's just a ching ching sound, right?" }, { "start": 1839.68, "end": 1843.3200000000002, "text": " Every ringtone is just like ching ching ching ching ching ching." }, { "start": 1843.3200000000002, "end": 1845.52, "text": " Just money cash register sounds." }, { "start": 1845.52, "end": 1847.52, "text": " I'm not going to answer that." }, { "start": 1847.52, "end": 1850.28, "text": " Vlad doesn't like talking about money." }, { "start": 1850.28, "end": 1851.28, "text": " He does not." }, { "start": 1851.28, "end": 1855, "text": " Actually it's called a view harp, which is really offensive, I'm guessing." }, { "start": 1855, "end": 1858.08, "text": " But that's what Wikipedia has it as the main entry." }, { "start": 1858.08, "end": 1859.44, "text": " A what harp?" }, { "start": 1859.44, "end": 1860.44, "text": " Just let it go." }, { "start": 1860.44, "end": 1864.04, "text": " Should we talk about Yalla?" }, { "start": 1864.04, "end": 1865.04, "text": " Very final point." }, { "start": 1865.04, "end": 1866.04, "text": " Very final point." }, { "start": 1866.04, "end": 1867.04, "text": " I just wanted to say this." }, { "start": 1867.04, "end": 1869.24, "text": " You don't get any more final points ever, I guess." }, { "start": 1869.24, "end": 1870.24, "text": " Just kidding." }, { "start": 1870.24, "end": 1871.24, "text": " Let's hear it." }, { "start": 1871.24, "end": 1872.24, "text": " Exactly." }, { "start": 1872.24, "end": 1874.08, "text": " Exactly the point about not talking about money." }, { "start": 1874.08, "end": 1881.2, "text": " I in no way am going to seek to justify spending thousands upon thousands of whatever currency" }, { "start": 1881.2, "end": 1882.2, "text": " on the phone." }, { "start": 1882.2, "end": 1883.6000000000001, "text": " I'm not trying to do that." }, { "start": 1883.6000000000001, "end": 1888.76, "text": " But what I would say is having been through their factory and having seen the way that" }, { "start": 1888.76, "end": 1894.48, "text": " they work and having seen how long people have been working there and the fact that" }, { "start": 1894.48, "end": 1901, "text": " you can have a career as a phone maker, assembler, whatever, and you can feel proud about it" }, { "start": 1901, "end": 1906.52, "text": " and you can have job satisfaction and you can have customers reaching out and saying" }, { "start": 1906.52, "end": 1909.24, "text": " I like your work, etc." }, { "start": 1909.24, "end": 1914.2, "text": " I feel like this is the way things should be done." }, { "start": 1914.2, "end": 1920.48, "text": " As a customer, if I could afford a phone that expensive, I would spend the money on it because" }, { "start": 1920.48, "end": 1927.64, "text": " then I would feel me buying the phone isn't victimizing whatever person is making it." }, { "start": 1927.64, "end": 1932.72, "text": " We keep making these complaints, working conditions at Foxconn, etc., etc., but then we keep buying" }, { "start": 1932.72, "end": 1935.8, "text": " the devices and there remains this disconnect." }, { "start": 1935.8, "end": 1936.8, "text": " Come on." }, { "start": 1936.8, "end": 1937.8, "text": " There's a middle ground here." }, { "start": 1937.8, "end": 1945.9199999999998, "text": " Absolutely, I'm just saying that what I saw there is so much closer to what we expect" }, { "start": 1945.9199999999998, "end": 1949.12, "text": " and wish this industry to look like." }, { "start": 1949.12, "end": 1953.68, "text": " Again, I'm not trying to justify the cost of these phones." }, { "start": 1953.68, "end": 1959.6, "text": " There's a middle ground, but I think to Vlad's point, I think it goes beyond just making" }, { "start": 1959.6, "end": 1963.44, "text": " sure that people have good working conditions and a basic living wage." }, { "start": 1963.44, "end": 1970.2, "text": " I think it has as much to do about supporting craftsmanship, which is something that is" }, { "start": 1970.2, "end": 1973.96, "text": " increasingly lost to robotics." }, { "start": 1973.96, "end": 1980.16, "text": " It speaks to a simpler time, almost pre-industrial age where everything was made by professional" }, { "start": 1980.16, "end": 1983.2, "text": " craftsmen." }, { "start": 1983.2, "end": 1984.64, "text": " That's kind of cool too." }, { "start": 1984.64, "end": 1991.64, "text": " You can understand when you have these extremely highly trained jewel makers working on these" }, { "start": 1991.64, "end": 1995.44, "text": " devices, that's in part why it costs so much to make them." }, { "start": 1995.44, "end": 1999.64, "text": " Obviously, you have the cost of the raw materials, which in some cases are very expensive, but" }, { "start": 1999.64, "end": 2005.68, "text": " then you're paying people, I'm sure very, very good money to do extremely high quality" }, { "start": 2005.68, "end": 2006.68, "text": " work." }, { "start": 2006.68, "end": 2009, "text": " Man, I blame the Steam Engine for all this." }, { "start": 2009, "end": 2014.3200000000002, "text": " I think we're better before we automated things." }, { "start": 2014.3200000000002, "end": 2015.3200000000002, "text": " I strongly agree." }, { "start": 2015.3200000000002, "end": 2020.3200000000002, "text": " What I'm saying is that when you think that you have something cheap..." }, { "start": 2020.32, "end": 2025.84, "text": " The price is paid somewhere." }, { "start": 2025.84, "end": 2034.8799999999999, "text": " It might be cheap to you, but then somebody somewhere is paying the price." }, { "start": 2034.8799999999999, "end": 2040, "text": " I have no way to transition from that to Jala, but I think we should talk about Jala briefly." }, { "start": 2040, "end": 2041.52, "text": " The transition is really obvious." }, { "start": 2041.52, "end": 2048.08, "text": " They're both former Nokia, and they have relationships with Nokia." }, { "start": 2048.08, "end": 2052.88, "text": " They're both ex-Nokia." }, { "start": 2052.88, "end": 2054.6, "text": " Well Virtu is ex-Nokia." }, { "start": 2054.6, "end": 2060.68, "text": " Jala is Nokia expats." }, { "start": 2060.68, "end": 2062.44, "text": " They both share the Nokia germ." }, { "start": 2062.44, "end": 2069, "text": " You had to spend some time with Sailfish and their actual shipping phone, right Vlad?" }, { "start": 2069, "end": 2070, "text": " I did." }, { "start": 2070, "end": 2072.3199999999997, "text": " What's your verdict?" }, { "start": 2072.32, "end": 2078.4, "text": " The thing that I discovered is that the Nokia fanboys do alive and well." }, { "start": 2078.4, "end": 2085.0800000000004, "text": " He just found a new outlet in Jala." }, { 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the Nokia N9 or the Hamilton interface." }, { "start": 2123.32, "end": 2129.84, "text": " They've essentially started from scratch and done their own new spin on a gesture interface" }, { "start": 2129.84, "end": 2135.88, "text": " with a lot of swipes left and right, a lot of coming in from the edge, top, bottom, left," }, { "start": 2135.88, "end": 2136.88, "text": " right." }, { "start": 2136.88, "end": 2138.2400000000002, "text": " They all do different things." }, { "start": 2138.2400000000002, "end": 2144.48, "text": " My issue with it is that the interface is just highly intuitive, and it's also not visible." }, { "start": 2144.48, "end": 2151.92, "text": " So they've taken away all the chrome of the interface, left you to guess what it is." }, { "start": 2151.92, "end": 2154.1200000000003, "text": " You need to memorize these gestures." }, { "start": 2154.1200000000003, "end": 2155.7200000000003, "text": " It's not intuitive." }, { "start": 2155.7200000000003, "end": 2158.88, "text": " It's crashy, and there's no app library." }, { "start": 2158.88, "end": 2159.88, "text": " So I'm wondering…" }, { "start": 2159.88, "end": 2168.48, "text": " They can have NoLTE." }, { "start": 2168.48, "end": 2171.48, "text": " You get a mulligan on that one." }, { "start": 2171.48, "end": 2176.38, "text": " Other than the dream of MeeGo and the dream that there'll be somebody else that can actually" }, { "start": 2176.38, "end": 2182.52, "text": " compete in the smartphone world, maybe by getting Android apps on there somehow, so" }, { "start": 2182.52, "end": 2187.6600000000003, "text": " that they've got some kind of parity, I'm at a loss to know why I should still be excited" }, { "start": 2187.6600000000003, "end": 2188.6600000000003, "text": " about this." }, { "start": 2188.66, "end": 2190.56, "text": " I think of it as a possibility." }, { "start": 2190.56, "end": 2195.16, "text": " Now that it's becoming a reality, the reality seems like they didn't finish the work to" }, { "start": 2195.16, "end": 2197.7599999999998, "text": " make it to get there." }, { "start": 2197.7599999999998, "end": 2200.94, "text": " There's just a lot of stuff that feels…" }, { "start": 2200.94, "end": 2202.2799999999997, "text": " Maybe I hate everything today." }, { "start": 2202.2799999999997, "end": 2205.08, "text": " It's a theme." }, { "start": 2205.08, "end": 2209.2, "text": " And so I'm just continuing that theme of anger and frustration." }, { "start": 2209.2, "end": 2210.2, "text": " Well, you're right, though." }, { "start": 2210.2, "end": 2211.2, "text": " You're right." }, { "start": 2211.2, "end": 2212.2, "text": " It isn't finished." }, { "start": 2212.2, "end": 2216.7999999999997, "text": " The Salesforce OS is, in official terms, is still in beta." }, { "start": 2216.8, "end": 2220.32, "text": " The thing after alpha, whatever." }, { "start": 2220.32, "end": 2221.32, "text": " No, it's good." }, { "start": 2221.32, "end": 2223.92, "text": " It's been a 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half second part, which attaches to the back of the phone, and that can include upgrades." }, { "start": 2255.24, "end": 2259.72, "text": " So one of the ideas was maybe if you're into physical keyboards, you can buy an other half" }, { "start": 2259.72, "end": 2261.8399999999997, "text": " which adds physical keyboard to your phone." }, { "start": 2261.8399999999997, "end": 2264.3599999999997, "text": " So there's a bit of modularity going on there." }, { "start": 2264.3599999999997, "end": 2267.7599999999998, "text": " But none of that, as you guys are saying, is available today." }, { "start": 2267.7599999999998, "end": 2273.64, "text": " So again, we're kind of looking at quite a bit of potential, and essentially it needs" }, { "start": 2273.64, "end": 2277.64, "text": " to be driven by the investment of enthusiastic supporters, which is fine." }, { "start": 2277.64, "end": 2282, "text": " I mean, I can't think of a single person who's enrouting for YOLO to do well because it's" }, { "start": 2282, "end": 2284.48, "text": " a small startup company." }, { "start": 2284.48, "end": 2289.92, "text": " They invested their money, their effort, their passion, their pride, et cetera, into it." }, { "start": 2289.92, "end": 2291.96, "text": " And they've had a successful launch." }, { "start": 2291.96, "end": 2301.52, "text": " I think they've had over a million euros sales since they started shipping the devices out." }, { "start": 2301.52, "end": 2303.24, "text": " So they're doing decently well." }, { "start": 2303.24, "end": 2307.56, "text": " And the one reason for optimism is actually that they're still such a tiny, tiny company" }, { "start": 2307.56, "end": 2311.64, "text": " with small expenses, and they're making a profit on a per device basis." }, { "start": 2311.64, "end": 2314.9599999999996, "text": " As a company, they're obviously not making a profit yet." }, { "start": 2314.9599999999996, "end": 2321.72, "text": " But because they don't have such a vast cost base the way that Nokia did, they can potentially" }, { "start": 2321.72, "end": 2327.64, "text": " afford to just sell a few devices, work quickly on the software, keep iterating, keep giving" }, { "start": 2327.64, "end": 2334.24, "text": " people more, and then survive long enough to have a second generation which will be" }, { "start": 2334.24, "end": 2337.2799999999997, "text": " refined and improved." }, { "start": 2337.2799999999997, "end": 2342.12, "text": " It's the same problem as always though, where you have all these guys at the tail end fighting" }, { "start": 2342.12, "end": 2343.44, "text": " for table scraps, right?" }, { "start": 2343.44, "end": 2348.7999999999997, "text": " You have the Ubuntu phone, which is coming." }, { "start": 2348.7999999999997, "end": 2353.7999999999997, "text": " And you can obviously see how this device would go kind of head to head for the same" }, { "start": 2353.7999999999997, "end": 2354.7999999999997, "text": " hearts and minds." }, { "start": 2354.8, "end": 2360.92, "text": " Well, I think the Ubuntu phone is a great example of Vlad had mentioned that it's going" }, { "start": 2360.92, "end": 2365.76, "text": " to survive on the interest of these enthusiasts who are willing to plunk down 600 bucks for" }, { "start": 2365.76, "end": 2367.52, "text": " an unknown." }, { "start": 2367.52, "end": 2373.96, "text": " The Ubuntu phone didn't get enough of those enthusiasts to make its goal by a long shot." }, { "start": 2373.96, "end": 2376.88, "text": " Yeah, but I mean, Mark Shuttleworth is a billionaire." }, { "start": 2376.88, "end": 2382.6400000000003, "text": " So if the dude wants to make an Ubuntu phone, he'll make an Ubuntu phone." }, { "start": 2382.64, "end": 2386.2799999999997, "text": " I think that the crowdfunding campaign, as is increasingly the case with the crowdfunding" }, { "start": 2386.2799999999997, "end": 2390.08, "text": " campaigns now, was really just a publicity stunt to drum up interest in the phone." }, { "start": 2390.08, "end": 2391.08, "text": " And he succeeded." }, { "start": 2391.08, "end": 2393.46, "text": " He got a lot of publicity for that device." }, { "start": 2393.46, "end": 2396.72, "text": " And now he can take it back to the drawing board and decide what he wants to do with" }, { "start": 2396.72, "end": 2397.72, "text": " it." }, { "start": 2397.72, "end": 2398.72, "text": " I mean, money is not a problem for the guy." }, { "start": 2398.72, "end": 2399.72, "text": " I'm not going to pitch in." }, { "start": 2399.72, "end": 2400.72, "text": " You're talking about money again." }, { "start": 2400.72, "end": 2401.72, "text": " I'm keeping quiet." }, { "start": 2401.72, "end": 2402.72, "text": " I thought that you were supposed to be..." }, { "start": 2402.72, "end": 2403.72, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 2403.72, "end": 2404.72, "text": " I'm the..." }, { "start": 2404.72, "end": 2405.72, "text": " So I really like the Ubuntu phone." }, { "start": 2405.72, "end": 2406.72, "text": " I'm not going to pitch in." }, { "start": 2406.72, "end": 2407.72, "text": " I'm not going to pitch in." }, { "start": 2407.72, "end": 2408.72, "text": " I'm not going to pitch in." }, { "start": 2408.72, "end": 2409.72, "text": " I'm not going to pitch in." }, { "start": 2409.72, "end": 2410.72, "text": " I'm not going to pitch in." }, { "start": 2410.72, "end": 2411.72, "text": " I'm not going to pitch in." }, { "start": 2411.72, "end": 2412.72, "text": " I'm not going to pitch in." }, { "start": 2412.72, "end": 2414.6, "text": " So I really wanted the JolliPhone." }, { "start": 2414.6, "end": 2415.72, "text": " I guess I was rooting for it." }, { "start": 2415.72, "end": 2417.3199999999997, "text": " I didn't put down my own money." }, { "start": 2417.3199999999997, "end": 2419.6, "text": " I didn't help them out." }, { "start": 2419.6, "end": 2424.04, "text": " But I was really hoping that it would be a better execution than I guess we've seen so" }, { "start": 2424.04, "end": 2425.04, "text": " far." }, { "start": 2425.04, "end": 2428.22, "text": " And maybe, as Vlad says, it's a beta." }, { "start": 2428.22, "end": 2430.48, "text": " So maybe there's room for improvement that we'll see." }, { "start": 2430.48, "end": 2431.7999999999997, "text": " Obviously, there's room for improvement." }, { "start": 2431.7999999999997, "end": 2435.3599999999997, "text": " Maybe we'll see them actually take action on that room for improvement." }, { "start": 2435.3599999999997, "end": 2440.04, "text": " But they've got a very, very uphill climb as far as I can tell." }, { "start": 2440.04, "end": 2445.2, "text": " Yeah, I mean, the thing that I want is for the interface and the thinking of the way" }, { "start": 2445.2, "end": 2450.7599999999998, "text": " a smartphone should act and behave and how you interact with the stuff that a smartphone" }, { "start": 2450.7599999999998, "end": 2457.84, "text": " does would be radically different enough for me to go like, I want this to succeed." }, { "start": 2457.84, "end": 2460.92, "text": " This is so much better than what's out there." }, { "start": 2460.92, "end": 2466.56, "text": " And that's like when I saw the early stuff, I'm like, they are thinking differently." }, { "start": 2466.56, "end": 2471.88, "text": " They are thinking better about how to change the way we manage stuff on these little screens." }, { "start": 2471.88, "end": 2473.6, "text": " And I want them to finish that." }, { "start": 2473.6, "end": 2478.46, "text": " And that's the thing that I wish they had done was finish that." }, { "start": 2478.46, "end": 2481.2799999999997, "text": " And maybe they still can because it's still in beta." }, { "start": 2481.2799999999997, "end": 2486.6, "text": " Well, I'm kind of hesitant to say this because I'll probably endanger my own life." }, { "start": 2486.6, "end": 2491.4, "text": " But given that I'm not in Finland, I'll take the risk." }, { "start": 2491.4, "end": 2498.52, "text": " I have to say, the BlackBerry 10 interface actually makes so much more sense to me than" }, { "start": 2498.52, "end": 2499.52, "text": " the Yolo one." }, { "start": 2499.52, "end": 2503.84, "text": " It has smoother animations." }, { "start": 2503.84, "end": 2508.1600000000003, "text": " It's so much more, okay, you still have to figure it out." }, { "start": 2508.1600000000003, "end": 2511.76, "text": " But they do give you a really neat tutorial on the BlackBerry." }, { "start": 2511.76, "end": 2516.8, "text": " And you swipe up from the bottom to dismiss the app, get back to multitasking." }, { "start": 2516.8, "end": 2519.94, "text": " You swipe down for notifications or settings rather." }, { "start": 2519.94, "end": 2521.7200000000003, "text": " And then all your notifications are in the hub." }, { "start": 2521.7200000000003, "end": 2524.7200000000003, "text": " And then all your apps are on the right side." }, { "start": 2524.7200000000003, "end": 2525.7200000000003, "text": " That's it." }, { "start": 2525.7200000000003, "end": 2526.7200000000003, "text": " I'm done." }, { "start": 2526.7200000000003, "end": 2527.7200000000003, "text": " I'm ready to use the phone." }, { "start": 2527.7200000000003, "end": 2530.84, "text": " Whereas with the Yolo, you do a whole heap of trial and error." }, { "start": 2530.84, "end": 2531.84, "text": " It just takes way too long." }, { "start": 2531.84, "end": 2539, "text": " I don't think I or anybody else living in 2013 has the patience to sit and study and" }, { "start": 2539, "end": 2542.92, "text": " learn a new phone precisely because the point that Dieter was also making is that by the" }, { "start": 2542.92, "end": 2546.84, "text": " time you've gone and learned the language of this new interface, there's something else" }, { "start": 2546.84, "end": 2547.84, "text": " on the horizon." }, { "start": 2547.84, "end": 2552.48, "text": " Right, well, on this company's debt, by the time you figure it out." }, { "start": 2552.48, "end": 2553.48, "text": " Unfortunately." }, { "start": 2553.48, "end": 2554.48, "text": " Well, I mean, yeah." }, { "start": 2554.48, "end": 2556.76, "text": " Are you talking about Palm here, Dieter?" }, { "start": 2556.76, "end": 2557.76, "text": " I am actually." }, { "start": 2557.76, "end": 2558.76, "text": " Are you getting into painful memories again?" }, { "start": 2558.76, "end": 2562.92, "text": " I'm just channeling all my rage about web OS, as that's all I ever do." }, { "start": 2562.92, "end": 2564.4, "text": " Oh, man." }, { "start": 2564.4, "end": 2568.76, "text": " That car UI, I want it back." }, { "start": 2568.76, "end": 2577.1600000000003, "text": " Speaking of unintuitive, hard to understand interfaces, VSCO Cam is available for Android." }, { "start": 2577.16, "end": 2578.16, "text": " Oh, burn." }, { "start": 2578.16, "end": 2579.16, "text": " Come on." }, { "start": 2579.16, "end": 2580.16, "text": " That's not fair." }, { "start": 2580.16, "end": 2581.16, "text": " Totally fair." }, { "start": 2581.16, "end": 2582.16, "text": " That is not fair." }, { "start": 2582.16, "end": 2583.16, "text": " Totally fair." }, { "start": 2583.16, "end": 2585.52, "text": " Tell me what M does in VSCO Cam." }, { "start": 2585.52, "end": 2587.3199999999997, "text": " Tell me what the little flag button does." }, { "start": 2587.3199999999997, "end": 2588.72, "text": " Tell me when I take a picture." }, { "start": 2588.72, "end": 2589.72, "text": " It flags your image." }, { "start": 2589.72, "end": 2593.6, "text": " Yeah, but except it doesn't actually appear for like 10 seconds on the little thing, the" }, { "start": 2593.6, "end": 2594.92, "text": " little corner thing." }, { "start": 2594.92, "end": 2598.3199999999997, "text": " Tell me when I take a picture inside VSCO Cam where it's backed up to." }, { "start": 2598.3199999999997, "end": 2600.48, "text": " Yeah, Josh couldn't even figure that out." }, { "start": 2600.48, "end": 2601.96, "text": " He tweeted about it today." }, { "start": 2601.96, "end": 2604.44, "text": " So okay, so VSCO Cam." }, { "start": 2604.44, "end": 2605.44, "text": " No, no." }, { "start": 2605.44, "end": 2606.44, "text": " Hang on." }, { "start": 2606.44, "end": 2608.2000000000003, "text": " I want you to tell me." }, { "start": 2608.2000000000003, "end": 2609.2000000000003, "text": " It's not backed up." }, { "start": 2609.2000000000003, "end": 2611.88, "text": " Tell me what C1 does." }, { "start": 2611.88, "end": 2612.88, "text": " That's one of the filters." }, { "start": 2612.88, "end": 2613.88, "text": " Tell me which one." }, { "start": 2613.88, "end": 2614.88, "text": " What does it do?" }, { "start": 2614.88, "end": 2619.04, "text": " It's if you tap it and then you tap it again, you can see the name of it and then you have" }, { "start": 2619.04, "end": 2621.28, "text": " a slider for how strong you..." }, { "start": 2621.28, "end": 2625, "text": " By the time I've tapped it, it's already applied a filter." }, { "start": 2625, "end": 2626.06, "text": " You can go back." }, { "start": 2626.06, "end": 2627.92, "text": " It's non-destructive." }, { "start": 2627.92, "end": 2629.96, "text": " Why don't you just tell me the name of the filter?" }, { "start": 2629.96, "end": 2632.32, "text": " Make the thumbnail a little bit bigger and I can see." }, { "start": 2632.32, "end": 2633.32, "text": " It's called C1." }, { "start": 2633.32, "end": 2635.52, "text": " You're turning, you're toggling C1 on and off." }, { "start": 2635.52, "end": 2636.52, "text": " I'm not going to..." }, { "start": 2636.52, "end": 2638.88, "text": " What's the difference between M3 and M5?" }, { "start": 2638.88, "end": 2642.04, "text": " I'm not going to defend the interface because I don't think the interface is perfect." }, { "start": 2642.04, "end": 2647.04, "text": " I think it's very minimalist and maybe it's too minimalist for people like Dieter." }, { "start": 2647.04, "end": 2651.8, "text": " But at the end of the day, when you're talking about a photo processing app, all that really" }, { "start": 2651.8, "end": 2656.72, "text": " matters to me is the output that it produces and VSCO Cam produces some really, really" }, { "start": 2656.72, "end": 2664.48, "text": " impressive pictures from Android phones, which is not something that we ever say." }, { "start": 2664.48, "end": 2665.8, "text": " So I'm really excited about it." }, { "start": 2665.8, "end": 2671.32, "text": " I think it does a really great output on the iPhone and I've been using it on Android phones" }, { "start": 2671.32, "end": 2676.48, "text": " for a couple of weeks because I was beta testing it and it does really well there as well." }, { "start": 2676.48, "end": 2679.28, "text": " So as a photographer, I'm really excited." }, { "start": 2679.28, "end": 2681.92, "text": " Maybe it's a little too dense for the average user." }, { "start": 2681.92, "end": 2683.2400000000002, "text": " Not offending you at all, Dieter." }, { "start": 2683.2400000000002, "end": 2688.48, "text": " That was not a comment at you at all and I'm sure that I agree that it's annoying that" }, { "start": 2688.48, "end": 2692.84, "text": " the photos don't save directly to your gallery and aren't automatically backed up and there's" }, { "start": 2692.84, "end": 2694.92, "text": " definite room for improvement with the interface." }, { "start": 2694.92, "end": 2697.84, "text": " But as far as the photo processing goes, I think it's great." }, { "start": 2697.84, "end": 2699.28, "text": " I'm excited for the photo processing." }, { "start": 2699.28, "end": 2704.1600000000003, "text": " I'm excited that on my Nexus 5, when I hit the shutter button in VSCO Cam, it takes a" }, { "start": 2704.1600000000003, "end": 2709.98, "text": " picture within a second or less, whereas in the default camera app, it takes about four" }, { "start": 2709.98, "end": 2711.32, "text": " seconds lately." }, { "start": 2711.32, "end": 2713.08, "text": " So okay, that's an exaggeration." }, { "start": 2713.08, "end": 2715.28, "text": " It's like two and a half, but still." }, { "start": 2715.28, "end": 2722.04, "text": " But Dieter, to your point about give me a larger thumbnail on the filter, etc., etc.," }, { "start": 2722.04, "end": 2727.44, "text": " that just sounds like somebody who says, I can't order in a restaurant unless the menu" }, { "start": 2727.44, "end": 2732.36, "text": " is laminated paper with pictures of every single meal." }, { "start": 2732.36, "end": 2737.72, "text": " Look, I want to know what a blogger does." }, { "start": 2737.72, "end": 2740.6, "text": " I think that VSCO Cam has a learning curve." }, { "start": 2740.6, "end": 2742.16, "text": " That's totally unfair." }, { "start": 2742.16, "end": 2743.96, "text": " I think there's a definite learning curve." }, { "start": 2743.96, "end": 2744.96, "text": " Once you've used it…" }, { "start": 2744.96, "end": 2745.96, "text": " There's a learning curve." }, { "start": 2745.96, "end": 2748.68, "text": " What's frustrating with the learning curve is it's unnecessary." }, { "start": 2748.68, "end": 2752.3999999999996, "text": " The interface when you're looking at your different filters, there's a ton of unused" }, { "start": 2752.3999999999996, "end": 2753.3999999999996, "text": " space there." }, { "start": 2753.3999999999996, "end": 2755.52, "text": " You're already having to scroll left and right." }, { "start": 2755.52, "end": 2760.8399999999997, "text": " Just like tell me what this button is going to do when I tap on it besides giving me a" }, { "start": 2760.8399999999997, "end": 2764.44, "text": " color, a letter, and a number." }, { "start": 2764.44, "end": 2768.52, "text": " If you're already giving me a color, a letter, and a number, is there some system why one" }, { "start": 2768.52, "end": 2771.68, "text": " thing is labeled B and one thing is labeled P?" }, { "start": 2771.68, "end": 2772.68, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 2772.68, "end": 2774.2799999999997, "text": " I bet there is." }, { "start": 2774.2799999999997, "end": 2776.48, "text": " Just like if you're going to put that much work into it…" }, { "start": 2776.48, "end": 2780.4, "text": " Are you complaining about the iPhone version here?" }, { "start": 2780.4, "end": 2783.56, "text": " The iPhone version is exactly the same as the Android version." }, { "start": 2783.56, "end": 2786.44, "text": " Their UI is exactly the same." }, { "start": 2786.44, "end": 2788.4, "text": " A lot of people complain that it doesn't adhere to…" }, { "start": 2788.4, "end": 2792.08, "text": " I guess Android users are complaining that it doesn't adhere to Android standards, but" }, { "start": 2792.08, "end": 2794.32, "text": " the iOS version doesn't adhere to iOS standards." }, { "start": 2794.32, "end": 2796.64, "text": " I don't care about adhering to…" }, { "start": 2796.64, "end": 2798.6, "text": " Their own interface for it." }, { "start": 2798.6, "end": 2803.14, "text": " I guess the only reason I'm being so vehement about it is because I've been waiting for" }, { "start": 2803.14, "end": 2805.32, "text": " something like this." }, { "start": 2805.32, "end": 2809.28, "text": " I mean, Snapseed is fine, but I want better photo tools on Android." }, { "start": 2809.28, "end": 2811.6000000000004, "text": " I want photography better on Android." }, { "start": 2811.6000000000004, "end": 2815.84, "text": " There's a whole lot of pent-up desire." }, { "start": 2815.84, "end": 2820.1200000000003, "text": " For some reason, I decided to rage on VSCO Cam today, and I'm going to continue." }, { "start": 2820.1200000000003, "end": 2821.92, "text": " Dan's right." }, { "start": 2821.92, "end": 2823.0800000000004, "text": " It does take really good pictures." }, { "start": 2823.0800000000004, "end": 2828.6000000000004, "text": " I wish that I could make it my main camera, but I totally can't because I need to have" }, { "start": 2828.6000000000004, "end": 2830.6000000000004, "text": " my pictures here in the cloud." }, { "start": 2830.6, "end": 2838.64, "text": " It's great for composing shots, but it can't become my main camera app." }, { "start": 2838.64, "end": 2841.16, "text": " It's also good for editing a photo after." }, { "start": 2841.16, "end": 2845.16, "text": " If you take a whole bunch of photos and then you've got time later on, you import them" }, { "start": 2845.16, "end": 2848.2, "text": " into the app, and you can process them and get all the quality and the effects and all" }, { "start": 2848.2, "end": 2849.2, "text": " that fun stuff." }, { "start": 2849.2, "end": 2853.16, "text": " Did you guys ever use…" }, { "start": 2853.16, "end": 2857.88, "text": " The first computer that you used, what OS did it run on?" }, { "start": 2857.88, "end": 2858.88, "text": " I had a…" }, { "start": 2858.88, "end": 2859.88, "text": " Did you ever use DOS?" }, { "start": 2859.88, "end": 2862.1600000000003, "text": " I mean, I had a PC Junior, so…" }, { "start": 2862.1600000000003, "end": 2863.1600000000003, "text": " Before DOS." }, { "start": 2863.1600000000003, "end": 2870.2000000000003, "text": " So the best word processor of all time, bar none, is WordPerfect 5.1 because it was wicked" }, { "start": 2870.2000000000003, "end": 2871.2000000000003, "text": " fast." }, { "start": 2871.2000000000003, "end": 2872.2000000000003, "text": " Nothing could slow it down." }, { "start": 2872.2000000000003, "end": 2874.7200000000003, "text": " No matter what you did, it was instantaneous." }, { "start": 2874.7200000000003, "end": 2877.96, "text": " But everything had to work via function keys, and so you had this plastic thing you kept" }, { "start": 2877.96, "end": 2881.2000000000003, "text": " in your keyboard with different color codes telling you what all the functions did." }, { "start": 2881.2000000000003, "end": 2884.6400000000003, "text": " So you could hit Control-F5 to do one thing or F5 to do another thing." }, { "start": 2884.64, "end": 2889.7999999999997, "text": " I'm just going to get one of those stickers laminated and pasted to the back of my phone" }, { "start": 2889.7999999999997, "end": 2892.52, "text": " so I can reference it when I want to edit photos in Viscocam." }, { "start": 2892.52, "end": 2893.8799999999997, "text": " That's the plan." }, { "start": 2893.8799999999997, "end": 2894.8799999999997, "text": " And then I'll be super happy." }, { "start": 2894.8799999999997, "end": 2900, "text": " I mean, to be fair, the little thumbnails at the bottom that have the P4 and the C1" }, { "start": 2900, "end": 2904.3599999999997, "text": " and the M5 and so, they have little previews of what the filter is going to kind of do." }, { "start": 2904.3599999999997, "end": 2905.92, "text": " I'm using a Nexus 5." }, { "start": 2905.92, "end": 2908.72, "text": " I do not have a small screen, and come on." }, { "start": 2908.72, "end": 2910.2799999999997, "text": " Like, come on." }, { "start": 2910.2799999999997, "end": 2911.2799999999997, "text": " Just saying." }, { "start": 2911.2799999999997, "end": 2912.2799999999997, "text": " It doesn't…" }, { "start": 2912.28, "end": 2918.44, "text": " But Dan, you want to be fair, whereas Dieter is grinning and trolling so hard." }, { "start": 2918.44, "end": 2922.44, "text": " The truth is always in the middle." }, { "start": 2922.44, "end": 2923.44, "text": " My thing for today is…" }, { "start": 2923.44, "end": 2924.44, "text": " I'm just going to…" }, { "start": 2924.44, "end": 2931.7200000000003, "text": " Until Viscocam copies WebOS's card interface, I will never use it." }, { "start": 2931.7200000000003, "end": 2932.7200000000003, "text": " You know what?" }, { "start": 2932.7200000000003, "end": 2937.6800000000003, "text": " It could copy WebOS's awesome Edoff cameras and awesome GeekBank too." }, { "start": 2937.6800000000003, "end": 2940.48, "text": " You really, really want to go there." }, { "start": 2940.48, "end": 2944.36, "text": " Because we all know how great the Pre's camera was." }, { "start": 2944.36, "end": 2945.84, "text": " Oh, it was so bad." }, { "start": 2945.84, "end": 2948.2400000000002, "text": " Did you ever use the Pixies camera?" }, { "start": 2948.2400000000002, "end": 2949.52, "text": " Okay, we can't talk about…" }, { "start": 2949.52, "end": 2953.76, "text": " We can't go down this path." }, { "start": 2953.76, "end": 2954.76, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 2954.76, "end": 2958.48, "text": " Speaking of failure, Motorola doesn't know how to make a website that runs." }, { "start": 2958.48, "end": 2960.8, "text": " God, this is so embarrassing." }, { "start": 2960.8, "end": 2961.8, "text": " It's like…" }, { "start": 2961.8, "end": 2967.2400000000002, "text": " Their Cyber Monday sale for the Moto X was a complete and utter debacle." }, { "start": 2967.2400000000002, "end": 2969.64, "text": " They sold no phones because they couldn't…" }, { "start": 2969.64, "end": 2974.2799999999997, "text": " Well, they sold the developer edition, but they sold none of the Moto Maker customized" }, { "start": 2974.2799999999997, "end": 2975.2799999999997, "text": " phones." }, { "start": 2975.2799999999997, "end": 2979.68, "text": " Which is just like, Cyber Monday is the biggest online shopping day of the year." }, { "start": 2979.68, "end": 2986.3199999999997, "text": " You are owned by what is arguably the biggest internet company in the world, and you can't" }, { "start": 2986.3199999999997, "end": 2987.3199999999997, "text": " get this to work." }, { "start": 2987.3199999999997, "end": 2991, "text": " I just don't understand how this fell apart so hardly." }, { "start": 2991, "end": 2996.4, "text": " I bet you that the people who ran the Google Play device sales for the Nexus 4 last year" }, { "start": 2996.4, "end": 2999.24, "text": " got put in charge of what they did this year." }, { "start": 2999.24, "end": 3000.24, "text": " And that's what happened." }, { "start": 3000.24, "end": 3004.7599999999998, "text": " I was just getting deja vu for that exact conversation around the Nexus 4 where Dan" }, { "start": 3004.7599999999998, "end": 3010.56, "text": " was raging about Google being the biggest web company and not being able to handle a" }, { "start": 3010.56, "end": 3011.56, "text": " few orders." }, { "start": 3011.56, "end": 3014.56, "text": " No, I know this is an ongoing problem that Google has had." }, { "start": 3014.56, "end": 3019.7599999999998, "text": " They didn't have any problems with the Nexus 5, and orders seemed to be…" }, { "start": 3019.7599999999998, "end": 3025.24, "text": " The store stayed up, orders going through, it handled whatever demand was there." }, { "start": 3025.24, "end": 3034.24, "text": " But I just can't see how this went so wrong for them on what is the biggest shopping day" }, { "start": 3034.24, "end": 3039.3999999999996, "text": " of the year for the internet." }, { "start": 3039.3999999999996, "end": 3042, "text": " And I can't imagine the demand was really that high." }, { "start": 3042, "end": 3047.9199999999996, "text": " Because as reports have shown, nobody was buying the Moto X before." }, { "start": 3047.9199999999996, "end": 3049.9399999999996, "text": " Most people don't buy phones off of contract." }, { "start": 3049.9399999999996, "end": 3053.8999999999996, "text": " It was an off contract promotion to give you a really good price on the phone, which is" }, { "start": 3053.9, "end": 3057.64, "text": " without a doubt, I'm not arguing that at all, but it's still a lot more than you" }, { "start": 3057.64, "end": 3062.08, "text": " would pay if you bought a phone on contract in a carrier store like most people actually" }, { "start": 3062.08, "end": 3063.12, "text": " do." }, { "start": 3063.12, "end": 3068.32, "text": " So I'm trying to figure out where all this demand and where all this traffic came from" }, { "start": 3068.32, "end": 3070.84, "text": " that actually kept the site down all day." }, { "start": 3070.84, "end": 3076.92, "text": " And I don't know if it was really traffic or demand or if it was some other factor." }, { "start": 3076.92, "end": 3079.28, "text": " People don't realize that I was trolling Viscocam." }, { "start": 3079.28, "end": 3080.28, "text": " That was all shtick." }, { "start": 3080.28, "end": 3083.32, "text": " I got a couple tweets at me there, angry at me." }, { "start": 3083.32, "end": 3084.32, "text": " Okay, whatever." }, { "start": 3084.32, "end": 3085.32, "text": " We'll let that go." }, { "start": 3085.32, "end": 3092.28, "text": " Well, actually, on the point about Viscocam, that is the most interesting arrival on Android" }, { "start": 3092.28, "end": 3096.2400000000002, "text": " in terms of software for a long time for me." }, { "start": 3096.2400000000002, "end": 3105.44, "text": " To me, I don't feel like Android has had an app where it's fallen behind iOS, even though" }, { "start": 3105.44, "end": 3109.1200000000003, "text": " I have to mention Badland just came to Android over the weekend." }, { "start": 3109.1200000000003, "end": 3111.32, "text": " Oh, God, it's so awesome." }, { "start": 3111.32, "end": 3115.44, "text": " And I somehow hadn't played it on iOS before." }, { "start": 3115.44, "end": 3117.4, "text": " Yeah, me either." }, { "start": 3117.4, "end": 3121.88, "text": " And I played that thing on Android and it made me smile." }, { "start": 3121.88, "end": 3127, "text": " And that just stood out to me because games don't do that anymore." }, { "start": 3127, "end": 3133, "text": " What's funny about Badland is that also last week or the week before, or very recently," }, { "start": 3133, "end": 3138.04, "text": " another high profile iOS game finally came to Android in the form of Ridiculous Fishing." }, { "start": 3138.04, "end": 3141.88, "text": " But the Android version was such a poor port initially." }, { "start": 3141.88, "end": 3145.74, "text": " They've updated it since its launch, but at launch, it was really slow and choppy." }, { "start": 3145.74, "end": 3149.52, "text": " It made my phone turn like 1,000 degrees and it just nuked my battery." }, { "start": 3149.52, "end": 3151.56, "text": " So it was a really bad experience." }, { "start": 3151.56, "end": 3157.4, "text": " So then when Badland came and I downloaded that and was playing that, I was just so surprised" }, { "start": 3157.4, "end": 3160.48, "text": " and relieved at how well it actually ran on Android." }, { "start": 3160.48, "end": 3162.36, "text": " It's just as good as it does on iOS." }, { "start": 3162.36, "end": 3163.36, "text": " It's beautiful." }, { "start": 3163.36, "end": 3165.52, "text": " It's a wonderful thing." }, { "start": 3165.52, "end": 3170.48, "text": " But when you have all of these frustrations, this frequently happens where games or apps" }, { "start": 3170.48, "end": 3174.88, "text": " get ported from iOS to Android, they frequently stink on Android." }, { "start": 3174.88, "end": 3178.68, "text": " I thought Eric Schmidt told us that people are going to develop for Android first." }, { "start": 3178.68, "end": 3181.88, "text": " I thought that was we were going to live in that world." }, { "start": 3181.88, "end": 3183.8, "text": " Eric Schmidt says a lot of things." }, { "start": 3183.8, "end": 3185.88, "text": " I'm sure some people do." }, { "start": 3185.88, "end": 3186.88, "text": " It might not be-" }, { "start": 3186.88, "end": 3190.5, "text": " Stuff Schmidt says." }, { "start": 3190.5, "end": 3197.28, "text": " You might not be the premier apps out there, but people who-I think Android now has a dedicated" }, { "start": 3197.28, "end": 3201.84, "text": " following and a dedicated user base, which as I've been saying recently, includes me" }, { "start": 3201.84, "end": 3202.84, "text": " now." }, { "start": 3202.84, "end": 3205.8, "text": " I am attached to the Gmail app on Android." }, { "start": 3205.8, "end": 3210.24, "text": " I literally-if I have too many emails to filter through, I might step away from the computer" }, { "start": 3210.24, "end": 3215.44, "text": " and go and do it on my phone because it's nicer to swipe things away." }, { "start": 3215.44, "end": 3220.04, "text": " Particularly if you have spam email and you want to have a physical gesture to go with" }, { "start": 3220.04, "end": 3221.04, "text": " your disgust." }, { "start": 3221.04, "end": 3224.16, "text": " It's so nice to just swipe to delete." }, { "start": 3224.16, "end": 3225.96, "text": " It's like, screw you, man." }, { "start": 3225.96, "end": 3226.96, "text": " I'm not interested." }, { "start": 3226.96, "end": 3227.96, "text": " Also, great-" }, { "start": 3227.96, "end": 3231.96, "text": " There should be a thing where if you swipe with your middle finger, it mutes instead" }, { "start": 3231.96, "end": 3232.96, "text": " of just archives." }, { "start": 3232.96, "end": 3236.52, "text": " I like that." }, { "start": 3236.52, "end": 3244.64, "text": " You can use the touch sensitivity, all those finger-print sensors and whatever." }, { "start": 3244.64, "end": 3245.64, "text": " Top tip." }, { "start": 3245.64, "end": 3250.44, "text": " If you have media alerts in the headline of an email, trust me, you don't need to be" }, { "start": 3250.44, "end": 3251.44, "text": " alerted." }, { "start": 3251.44, "end": 3252.44, "text": " It's not that important." }, { "start": 3252.44, "end": 3253.44, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3253.44, "end": 3261.64, "text": " Oh, speaking of Motorola, Aaron interviewed-or interviewed-" }, { "start": 3261.64, "end": 3265.7599999999998, "text": " Well, I just want to say before we get to that, that Motorola is going to try again" }, { "start": 3265.7599999999998, "end": 3267.8399999999997, "text": " tomorrow and next-" }, { "start": 3267.8399999999997, "end": 3269.04, "text": " Cyber Wednesday?" }, { "start": 3269.04, "end": 3272.6, "text": " So they're going to offer the same deal again." }, { "start": 3272.6, "end": 3276.56, "text": " So hopefully they're able to get their stuff sorted out and working." }, { "start": 3276.56, "end": 3280.72, "text": " The deal, when it goes live again, just go to www.motorola.com." }, { "start": 3280.72, "end": 3285.96, "text": " That might not be the exact address." }, { "start": 3285.96, "end": 3289.2, "text": " You should probably look it up before you try." }, { "start": 3289.2, "end": 3294.48, "text": " Anyway, yeah, the Moto G. Not bad." }, { "start": 3294.48, "end": 3296.44, "text": " Not a bad phone." }, { "start": 3296.44, "end": 3297.44, "text": " Not bad at all." }, { "start": 3297.44, "end": 3300.52, "text": " You know what's funny is that normally we would say in a situation like this, it's" }, { "start": 3300.52, "end": 3303.48, "text": " not a bad phone." }, { "start": 3303.48, "end": 3309.88, "text": " It's not a bad for a $200 phone or $180 phone, but this is just not a bad phone, period." }, { "start": 3309.88, "end": 3312.16, "text": " Well, I mean, the camera is pretty terrible." }, { "start": 3312.16, "end": 3317.2, "text": " Right, but so is the Moto X's camera." }, { "start": 3317.2, "end": 3323.2, "text": " It's definitely not a bad phone for the price, and it's not the worst." }, { "start": 3323.2, "end": 3326.7599999999998, "text": " This is way better than, say, the HTC First, right?" }, { "start": 3326.7599999999998, "end": 3327.7599999999998, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3327.7599999999998, "end": 3328.7599999999998, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3328.76, "end": 3334.36, "text": " I mean, and it's way better than the Galaxy S4 Mini and the Galaxy S3 Mini and all these" }, { "start": 3334.36, "end": 3340.5600000000004, "text": " other phones that occupy this mid-range garbage level sphere." }, { "start": 3340.5600000000004, "end": 3342.0400000000004, "text": " It's like..." }, { "start": 3342.0400000000004, "end": 3346.6800000000003, "text": " Our esteemed producer, by the way, Evan Rogers, who you got to watch on the mobile show last" }, { "start": 3346.6800000000003, "end": 3351.48, "text": " week, as soon as I mentioned the HTC First, he literally just like thumped his chest," }, { "start": 3351.48, "end": 3353.6800000000003, "text": " kissed his fingers, and pointed at this guy." }, { "start": 3353.6800000000003, "end": 3357.6400000000003, "text": " That just happened." }, { "start": 3357.64, "end": 3359.04, "text": " I didn't even know." }, { "start": 3359.04, "end": 3361, "text": " So much potential." }, { "start": 3361, "end": 3362, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3362, "end": 3365.16, "text": " Is this really the mid-range that we're talking about here?" }, { "start": 3365.16, "end": 3368.24, "text": " I mean, the Moto G is so cheaply priced." }, { "start": 3368.24, "end": 3372.04, "text": " It's sold below the low end, right?" }, { "start": 3372.04, "end": 3376.56, "text": " If you're comparing it to like priced phones here in the US, it's sold at like the lowest" }, { "start": 3376.56, "end": 3383.12, "text": " of the low end, but it is comparable with a mid-range phone, right?" }, { "start": 3383.12, "end": 3390.04, "text": " So that's what makes it so interesting, so appealing, and kind of frankly so surprising." }, { "start": 3390.04, "end": 3391.04, "text": " So good on them." }, { "start": 3391.04, "end": 3398.44, "text": " I mean, to me, the biggest challenge to newcomers like Yola is their pricing, their phones," 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3437.28, "text": " I mean, Motorola says that at the pricing that the Moto G is at, they are still making" }, { "start": 3437.28, "end": 3440.26, "text": " a profit on each phone, assuming they sell them." }, { "start": 3440.26, "end": 3447.2400000000002, "text": " So how a small company like Yola could make the same kind of profit margins, it's really" }, { "start": 3447.2400000000002, "end": 3449.2000000000003, "text": " hard to fathom that." }, { "start": 3449.2000000000003, "end": 3455.44, "text": " Yeah, I mean, the Moto G, it's not just cheap in the US, it's cheap everywhere." }, { "start": 3455.44, "end": 3463.5800000000004, "text": " It's a play to be a global phone, to be globally available, and I think that's the point with" }, { "start": 3463.5800000000004, "end": 3464.7200000000003, "text": " it." }, { "start": 3464.7200000000003, "end": 3467.88, "text": " The absence of OTE, still, it's so sad." }, { "start": 3467.88, "end": 3473.92, "text": " I have to say, if I was in Bulgaria and saying, we don't have OTE, so that's cool, that would" }, { "start": 3473.92, "end": 3475.04, "text": " be kind of predictable." }, { "start": 3475.04, "end": 3479.96, "text": " But I'm in London, and the case is, for most carriers and most people here, not having" }, { "start": 3479.96, "end": 3486, "text": " OTE is not a problem, because you don't have a network that you'd be missing out on." }, { "start": 3486, "end": 3491.32, "text": " So there are still plenty of spaces and places that lag on the OTE availability where the" }, { "start": 3491.32, "end": 3493.04, "text": " Moto G could be quite an ideal phone." }, { "start": 3493.04, "end": 3496.7200000000003, "text": " I mean, even if you get the HTC One, which is really nicely designed and all of that," }, { "start": 3496.72, "end": 3500.04, "text": " you still get kind of a chromy camera." }, { "start": 3500.04, "end": 3506.7599999999998, "text": " So why not save yourself the money, get a Moto G, and then, gosh, I don't know, do something" }, { "start": 3506.7599999999998, "end": 3511.4399999999996, "text": " nice with your family." }, { "start": 3511.4399999999996, "end": 3512.8399999999997, "text": " Take a boat ride." }, { "start": 3512.8399999999997, "end": 3517.3199999999997, "text": " One last thing to talk about, sort of a bad news, and then good news saying bad news," }, { "start": 3517.3199999999997, "end": 3522.16, "text": " Cyanogen Mod pulled from the Play Store." }, { "start": 3522.16, "end": 3527.16, "text": " I honestly am a little bit surprised that the move against Cyanogen Mod was pulling" }, { "start": 3527.16, "end": 3531.48, "text": " their installer from the Google Play Store, well, their how-to installer thing, whatever" }, { "start": 3531.48, "end": 3536.6, "text": " you want to call it, from the Google Play Store because it encouraged people to avoid" }, { "start": 3536.6, "end": 3538.02, "text": " warranties." }, { "start": 3538.02, "end": 3546.16, "text": " That seems like a really, I don't know, it seems like kind of a cheap move from Google." }, { "start": 3546.16, "end": 3551.3999999999996, "text": " If you're going to go after Cyanogen Mod, then go after people distributing Google apps" }, { "start": 3551.4, "end": 3553.2400000000002, "text": " and Google code." }, { "start": 3553.2400000000002, "end": 3560.6800000000003, "text": " Don't go after an app that you're not quite sure what they're asking users to do in your" }, { "start": 3560.6800000000003, "end": 3561.6800000000003, "text": " store." }, { "start": 3561.6800000000003, "end": 3567.32, "text": " It feels like instead of having the fight that they ought to have and actually saying" }, { "start": 3567.32, "end": 3573.2400000000002, "text": " what it is Google apps are and what it is Android is and what it is exactly their relationship" }, { "start": 3573.2400000000002, "end": 3578.36, "text": " to Android hacking is and Android openness is, they're doing this like, yeah, keep doing" }, { "start": 3578.36, "end": 3581.48, "text": " what you're doing but make sure you do it over there in the shadows so you're out of" }, { "start": 3581.48, "end": 3584, "text": " the store but we're not going to address this other stuff." }, { "start": 3584, "end": 3586.6400000000003, "text": " That just feels a little chicken." }, { "start": 3586.6400000000003, "end": 3588.88, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 3588.88, "end": 3592.1200000000003, "text": " Dan is making fun of me right now in some chat room right now." }, { "start": 3592.1200000000003, "end": 3593.1200000000003, "text": " I can hear him typing." }, { "start": 3593.1200000000003, "end": 3594.1200000000003, "text": " Oh, no, I apologize." }, { "start": 3594.1200000000003, "end": 3596.44, "text": " I was completely distracted by your chat room." }, { "start": 3596.44, "end": 3597.44, "text": " Oh, okay." }, { "start": 3597.44, "end": 3598.44, "text": " I'm actually waiting for the good news." }, { "start": 3598.44, "end": 3599.44, "text": " Hit me with the good news." }, { "start": 3599.44, "end": 3601.7200000000003, "text": " Oh, the good news?" }, { "start": 3601.72, "end": 3610.64, "text": " The good news is that the mad geniuses at XDA, a whole crew of them together have ported" }, { "start": 3610.64, "end": 3617.08, "text": " and installed mostly, well, okay, kind of successfully KitKat on the HD2." }, { "start": 3617.08, "end": 3620.08, "text": " The Rasputin of the XDA." }, { "start": 3620.08, "end": 3621.08, "text": " Oh, man." }, { "start": 3621.08, "end": 3622.08, "text": " Yes, sir." }, { "start": 3622.08, "end": 3623.08, "text": " The HD2." }, { "start": 3623.08, "end": 3626.52, "text": " You know, Wi-Fi maybe not working so much." }, { "start": 3626.52, "end": 3631.68, "text": " Cell phone connectivity maybe not quite there yet but they have KitKat running on the HD2." }, { "start": 3631.68, "end": 3636.3199999999997, "text": " I mean, that's amazing, right?" }, { "start": 3636.3199999999997, "end": 3638.2799999999997, "text": " Kudos." }, { "start": 3638.2799999999997, "end": 3641.72, "text": " That is deserving of epic praise." }, { "start": 3641.72, "end": 3643.3599999999997, "text": " When did this thing come out?" }, { "start": 3643.3599999999997, "end": 3645.8799999999997, "text": " When the Leo was released?" }, { "start": 3645.8799999999997, "end": 3647.68, "text": " It's 2009, wasn't it?" }, { "start": 3647.68, "end": 3648.68, "text": " It was late 2009." }, { "start": 3648.68, "end": 3649.68, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3649.68, "end": 3651.48, "text": " Turn of 2010, I think." }, { "start": 3651.48, "end": 3659.08, "text": " Well, the Evo 4G was like spring of 2010 or summer of 2010 and this predated it by a good" }, { "start": 3659.08, "end": 3661.2, "text": " six months." }, { "start": 3661.2, "end": 3662.2, "text": " The first giant 4.3 inch HD2." }, { "start": 3662.2, "end": 3670.8399999999997, "text": " The rumors came out and then, yeah, so it may have been late 2009 when it came out," }, { "start": 3670.8399999999997, "end": 3671.8399999999997, "text": " maybe early 2010." }, { "start": 3671.8399999999997, "end": 3672.8399999999997, "text": " It's a four-year-old phone, guys." }, { "start": 3672.8399999999997, "end": 3677.4399999999996, "text": " Yeah, but the thing about KitKat is it's designed to run on low-end phones, right?" }, { "start": 3677.4399999999996, "end": 3679.04, "text": " So why not?" }, { "start": 3679.04, "end": 3682.04, "text": " Give it a shot." }, { "start": 3682.04, "end": 3683.7999999999997, "text": " Man, it's got fun." }, { "start": 3683.7999999999997, "end": 3685.72, "text": " Yeah, dude, I'm going to try this." }, { "start": 3685.72, "end": 3688.9199999999996, "text": " I don't have an HD2 anymore and I really am unhappy about it." }, { "start": 3688.92, "end": 3694.2000000000003, "text": " I had one for a while and I let it go and I could, man, I could install so much software" }, { "start": 3694.2000000000003, "end": 3695.2000000000003, "text": " on that thing that I hadn't." }, { "start": 3695.2000000000003, "end": 3700.04, "text": " I remember the first time I saw somebody using an HD2 just out and about or in the wild," }, { "start": 3700.04, "end": 3701.04, "text": " as they say." }, { "start": 3701.04, "end": 3702.04, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3702.04, "end": 3705.76, "text": " And it just blew my mind how big the phone was, like how big the display was and how" }, { "start": 3705.76, "end": 3706.76, "text": " thin the phone was." }, { "start": 3706.76, "end": 3710.84, "text": " And we're talking about a 4.3 inch screen and I think it's something like 10.5 millimeters" }, { "start": 3710.84, "end": 3712.28, "text": " thick or something." }, { "start": 3712.28, "end": 3717.52, "text": " And I just was like, I remember I was with my wife and I had like a total geek out moment" }, { "start": 3717.52, "end": 3720.16, "text": " and she did not understand why I was like freaking out." }, { "start": 3720.16, "end": 3724.2, "text": " And I'm like, oh my God, look at that thing, look at it, look at it." }, { "start": 3724.2, "end": 3728.52, "text": " And yeah, so and then here we are with, you know, the average phone is 4.5 or 4.7 inches" }, { "start": 3728.52, "end": 3729.52, "text": " or whatever it is." }, { "start": 3729.52, "end": 3730.52, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3730.52, "end": 3737.64, "text": " And I'd just like to point out that the HD2 can now get KitKat and the Galaxy Nexus cannot." }, { "start": 3737.64, "end": 3738.96, "text": " So Merry Christmas." }, { "start": 3738.96, "end": 3745.92, "text": " Well, to be fair, the same nerds or different nerds at XDA have ported the Galaxy Nexus," }, { "start": 3745.92, "end": 3748.04, "text": " ported KitKat to the Galaxy Nexus already." }, { "start": 3748.04, "end": 3751.76, "text": " So I mean, technically they both have it in the same capacity." }, { "start": 3751.76, "end": 3752.76, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 3752.76, "end": 3754.76, "text": " Way to ruin the joke, Dan." }, { "start": 3754.76, "end": 3755.76, "text": " Sorry." }, { "start": 3755.76, "end": 3758.8, "text": " I didn't want to be peddling inaccuracies." }, { "start": 3758.8, "end": 3768.08, "text": " Yeah, well I had to ruin my own extended joke about VSCO cam." }, { "start": 3768.08, "end": 3771, "text": " That ladies and gentlemen is the Verge mobile show." }, { "start": 3771, "end": 3774.26, "text": " We want to thank you so much for watching and or listening." }, { "start": 3774.26, "end": 3776.6800000000003, "text": " If you want to follow us on Twitter, you should." }, { "start": 3776.6800000000003, "end": 3779.28, "text": " I am back on Vlad, it's Vlad Saba." }, { "start": 3779.28, "end": 3781.32, "text": " Dan is DC secret with an EI." }, { "start": 3781.32, "end": 3783.3, "text": " Chris is Zed Power." }, { "start": 3783.3, "end": 3784.5600000000004, "text": " We are all at 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It's supposed to allow anyone to shop and compare plans from different insurance companies," }, { "start": 483.48, "end": 487.28, "text": " guaranteeing the best rate, and then actually purchase that insurance for themselves and" }, { "start": 487.28, "end": 488.28, "text": " their families." }, { "start": 488.28, "end": 492.28, "text": " Now, the law's opponents are trying to use the busted website as an argument to repeal" }, { "start": 492.28, "end": 493.72, "text": " the entire law." }, { "start": 493.72, "end": 497.24, "text": " For want of a website, healthcare reform could be lost." }, { "start": 497.24, "end": 502.48, "text": " Anything that the Federal Government does usually ends up being too expensive to afford." }, { "start": 502.48, "end": 505.92, "text": " And that certainly is what we have seen with the website." }, { "start": 505.92, "end": 510.56, "text": " But unfortunately, what our constituents are beginning to realize is going to transpire" }, { "start": 510.56, "end": 511.56, "text": " with their healthcare." }, { "start": 511.56, "end": 514.6, "text": " What do you think is the fix at this point?" }, { "start": 514.6, "end": 516, "text": " There's only one fix for Obamacare." }, { "start": 516, "end": 518.6, "text": " You've got to repeal it." }, { "start": 518.6, "end": 523.36, "text": " This is never going to, I mean, it's, that's the only fix." }, { "start": 523.36, "end": 524.48, "text": " We tried to delay it." }, { "start": 524.48, "end": 525.6800000000001, "text": " We had a big fight about it." }, { "start": 525.6800000000001, "end": 527.24, "text": " Now people know why we fought so hard." }, { "start": 527.24, "end": 530.88, "text": " I mean, see how bad it is when they see what's, the notices they're getting, your policy's" }, { "start": 530.88, "end": 534.04, "text": " being dropped, the increase in premiums, you're not going to be able to keep your own doctor," }, { "start": 534.04, "end": 536.1999999999999, "text": " the website doesn't work, you can't compare prices." }, { "start": 536.1999999999999, "end": 538.24, "text": " Now they know why we fought so hard." }, { "start": 538.24, "end": 539.9, "text": " The only answer is to repeal this." }, { "start": 539.9, "end": 543.28, "text": " The President had to apologize for a website in the Rose Garden?" }, { "start": 543.28, "end": 546.0799999999999, "text": " Like, you know, that's never happened before." }, { "start": 546.0799999999999, "end": 550, "text": " This is a significant moment for information technology and government." }, { "start": 550, "end": 553.48, "text": " But that doesn't have anything to do with the Affordable Care Act other than this was" }, { "start": 553.48, "end": 557.5999999999999, "text": " the vessel, you know, for the Affordable Care Act's implementation." }, { "start": 557.5999999999999, "end": 559.04, "text": " That law has been passed." }, { "start": 559.04, "end": 565.68, "text": " I don't think that because the website 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[ { "start": 0, "end": 6, "text": " It's Monday, December 2nd, 2013. I'm Dieter Bohn, and because it's finally December, I can officially do this." }, { "start": 7, "end": 9, "text": " This is 90 seconds on the Verge." }, { "start": 9, "end": 13, "text": " Turns out, drone strikes might not be so bad, just as long as they come bearing gifts." }, { "start": 13, "end": 18, "text": " Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos has debuted the company's latest delivery system called Amazon Prime Air," }, { "start": 18, "end": 22, "text": " which sends drones that can deliver packages to your house in less than half an hour." }, { "start": 22, "end": 26, "text": " Unfortunately, Bezos says we're four to five years away from seeing drone deliveries" }, { "start": 26, "end": 30, "text": " because Amazon has to work out regulations with the FAA, improve battery life," }, { "start": 30, "end": 33, "text": " oh, and make sure that Kindle fires don't fall on customers' heads." }, { "start": 33, "end": 36, "text": " At long last, Healthcare.gov is working, for the most part." }, { "start": 36, "end": 42, "text": " White House officials say the site is now working for about 80% of users, up from 30% just five weeks ago." }, { "start": 42, "end": 46, "text": " New documents also detail just how troubled Healthcare.gov originally was." }, { "start": 46, "end": 51, "text": " While uptime is now around 95%, it was only 42.9% at the beginning of November." }, { "start": 51, "end": 56, "text": " The team will now begin to gradually guide users back to the site in order to meet the deadline to have coverage by January 1st." }, { "start": 56, "end": 62, "text": " And finally, after the tragic death of Paul Walker, production on Fast and Furious 7 will be delayed, but not permanently." }, { "start": 62, "end": 66, "text": " Sources close to the film say Universal executives and director James Wan met yesterday" }, { "start": 66, "end": 69, "text": " to discuss how to proceed with the film while being respectful of Walker's death." }, { "start": 69, "end": 74, "text": " Although most of the sequel has already been shot, Walker still had several key scenes to film this week." }, { "start": 74, "end": 78, "text": " Fast and Furious 7 was originally scheduled to be released on July 11th of next year." }, { "start": 78, "end": 79, "text": " No word yet on if that will change." }, { "start": 79, "end": 81, "text": " That's it for today's top stories." }, { "start": 81, "end": 84, "text": " Coming up tomorrow, I put together my Spotify playlist for December." }, { "start": 84, "end": 110, "text": " Oh yes, we think we'll be coming home for Christmas." } ]

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[ { "start": 0, "end": 3, "text": " It's Tuesday, November 26, 2013." }, { "start": 3, "end": 7.5, "text": " I'm Ross Miller and if you're looking for the best Black Friday deals, come to my front yard!" }, { "start": 7.5, "end": 11.5, "text": " I've got discounts for you on VHS's like Twister and my 8th birthday party." }, { "start": 11.5, "end": 13, "text": " This is 90 seconds on the verge." }, { "start": 13, "end": 16, "text": " NASA's Kepler Space Telescope may live again." }, { "start": 16, "end": 22, "text": " After abandoning repairs in August, NASA now thinks it can use solar pressure to help Kepler pinpoint distant planets," }, { "start": 22, "end": 24, "text": " though only for limited periods of time." }, { "start": 24, "end": 27.5, "text": " NASA intends on proposing the mission in its 2014 budget." }, { "start": 27.5, "end": 30, "text": " Want to follow Bud Light or Knob Creek on Twitter?" }, { "start": 30, "end": 33.5, "text": " Well, you better be legal enough to drink or sober enough to fake a birthday." }, { "start": 33.5, "end": 38.5, "text": " Twitter has introduced a new age screening system to make sure that users looking to follow alcohol brands" }, { "start": 38.5, "end": 41, "text": " are over the legal drinking age of their home country." }, { "start": 41, "end": 47, "text": " Users will receive a direct message that sends them to an age gate and gives them 24 hours to provide the relevant information." }, { "start": 47, "end": 51.5, "text": " Unfortunately, Twitter says they may also share your data with third parties for marketing purposes." }, { "start": 51.5, "end": 56.5, "text": " And don't be surprised, marketers, if most of your users are now born January 1, 1800." }, { "start": 56.5, "end": 61, "text": " Finally, everyone's favorite needy pet toy is coming back to poop all over your keychain." }, { "start": 61, "end": 67, "text": " Bandai has announced that it's bringing the classic virtual pet, the Tamagotchi, to European retailers toward the end of December." }, { "start": 67, "end": 70.5, "text": " While a Tamagotchi app was released on iOS and Android earlier this year," }, { "start": 70.5, "end": 75.5, "text": " this marks the return of the familiar keychain units, complete with a retro black and white display." }, { "start": 75.5, "end": 79.5, "text": " As for the rest of the world, Tamagotchi will not be available until next fall." }, { "start": 79.5, "end": 83.5, "text": " That's it for today's top stories, but coming up tomorrow, I make a stuffed Turkross." }, { "start": 83.5, "end": 86.5, "text": " It's stuffing inside of a turkey inside of me." }, { "start": 86.5, "end": 114.5, "text": " Have a great Thanksgiving, everybody. We'll see you next week." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 7, "text": " Hey, welcome to the Verge Mobile Show. This is episode 70 for the week of November 25th." }, { "start": 7.88, "end": 14.72, "text": " It's Turkey week here in the US, so it is Thanksgiving and lots to be thankful for." }, { "start": 14.72, "end": 18.6, "text": " I'm Dan Seifert." }, { "start": 18.6, "end": 20.72, "text": " I'm Evan Rogers." }, { "start": 20.72, "end": 22.080000000000002, "text": " Where was Vlad on that?" }, { "start": 22.080000000000002, "end": 25.400000000000002, "text": " Vlad just dropped out at the moment of truth." }, { "start": 25.400000000000002, "end": 27, "text": " So pro." }, { "start": 27, "end": 32.72, "text": " Well, I'm Chris Stigler and apparently Vlad has decided not to join us. There was something" }, { "start": 32.72, "end": 36.08, "text": " about Dan's mention of Thanksgiving that made him very, very angry." }, { "start": 36.08, "end": 37.36, "text": " He just peed out." }, { "start": 37.36, "end": 40.32, "text": " He dropped in a huff." }, { "start": 40.32, "end": 47.32, "text": " To be fair, Commonwealth countries do Thanksgiving on different days. I don't know if it's Commonwealth" }, { "start": 47.92, "end": 51.28, "text": " countries or just Canada. I know that Canada had their Thanksgiving in October." }, { "start": 51.28, "end": 56.8, "text": " Yeah, but that's because winter starts in Canada so much earlier." }, { "start": 56.8, "end": 61, "text": " You're just in perpetual winter as far as I know. I don't think there is any other" }, { "start": 61, "end": 61.519999999999996, "text": " season." }, { "start": 61.519999999999996, "end": 63.199999999999996, "text": " The great frozen north." }, { "start": 63.199999999999996, "end": 65.24, "text": " That's right." }, { "start": 65.24, "end": 67.72, "text": " Oh, podcasts. So." }, { "start": 67.72, "end": 69.32, "text": " So this has been a smooth start." }, { "start": 69.32, "end": 73.84, "text": " I guess we should probably talk about, we should at least acknowledge the fact that" }, { "start": 73.84, "end": 78.84, "text": " Evan Rogers, our producer, is joining us for I believe his third appearance, is that right?" }, { "start": 78.84, "end": 81.8, "text": " Yes, yes that is the case." }, { "start": 81.8, "end": 86.56, "text": " That's very, very exciting and the reason, oh and we also have an infant joining us today." }, { "start": 86.56, "end": 91.28, "text": " The podcasting star." }, { "start": 91.28, "end": 97.32000000000001, "text": " I believe and we're not going to spoil the surprise. Actually we are going to spoil the" }, { "start": 97.32000000000001, "end": 101.8, "text": " surprise. I believe, I'm being told, it's being fed into my ear as we speak. No it's" }, { "start": 101.8, "end": 106.4, "text": " not. That Dieter may be joining us later. I still know why Dieter's not here, by the" }, { "start": 106.4, "end": 108.44, "text": " way. We're going to have to talk about this later." }, { "start": 108.44, "end": 113.92, "text": " Yes, yes. So I am sitting in for Dieter for the time being and theoretically he will in" }, { "start": 113.92, "end": 115.44, "text": " fact join us." }, { "start": 115.44, "end": 116.8, "text": " Good." }, { "start": 116.8, "end": 122.72, "text": " And Vlad, he is a person that exists but not on the internet for the moment." }, { "start": 122.72, "end": 126.25999999999999, "text": " He is a person that exists, this is true." }, { "start": 126.25999999999999, "end": 129.16, "text": " So yeah, that's what's up. That's podcasting." }, { "start": 129.16, "end": 134.04, "text": " So do you guys want to talk about mobile stuff?" }, { "start": 134.04, "end": 135.04, "text": " I guess." }, { "start": 135.04, "end": 140.4, "text": " I'm just looking at our, I'm admittedly looking at our topic list for the very first time" }, { "start": 140.4, "end": 145.96, "text": " and the top of the list is apparently three high level BlackBerry executives have been" }, { "start": 145.96, "end": 154, "text": " given the old boot and shown the door. John Chen is the new CEO is starting to clean house" }, { "start": 154, "end": 157.44, "text": " and right the ship it seems." }, { "start": 157.44, "end": 162.8, "text": " Well you know, as they say, rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic is always the way" }, { "start": 162.8, "end": 163.8, "text": " to go." }, { "start": 163.8, "end": 172, "text": " So that's my first question I guess. Knowing not very much about BlackBerry, like BlackBerry's" }, { "start": 172, "end": 178.68, "text": " corporate structure, I don't know how much these three individuals influenced kind of" }, { "start": 178.68, "end": 183.52, "text": " the sinking, the Titanic if you will." }, { "start": 183.52, "end": 187.36, "text": " Well I mean again, we've said this in past weeks." }, { "start": 187.36, "end": 189.60000000000002, "text": " I mean these are C level executives right?" }, { "start": 189.6, "end": 196.04, "text": " Yeah, they are, but I don't think, I mean anything that happened in the period of time" }, { "start": 196.04, "end": 202.16, "text": " between the departure of Jim Balsillie and Mike Lazaridis and BlackBerry today, I think" }, { "start": 202.16, "end": 207.95999999999998, "text": " it's very very difficult to attribute a lot of blame to anyone in the C suite up to and" }, { "start": 207.95999999999998, "end": 215.12, "text": " including Torsten Heinz because they just didn't, I mean their fate was kind of sealed" }, { "start": 215.12, "end": 220, "text": " by the time those guys were shown the door. And granted there are probably things that" }, { "start": 220, "end": 225.96, "text": " they could have done to soften the blow, maybe, but you have to second guess Heinz decision" }, { "start": 225.96, "end": 231.32, "text": " to push the launch of BlackBerry 10 out what, by three or four months, if not more." }, { "start": 231.32, "end": 234.6, "text": " I can't remember how long he delayed it, but he delayed it for a while and that may" }, { "start": 234.6, "end": 238.84, "text": " have hurt them a bit, but at the end of the day, I mean it's six and one half dozen the" }, { "start": 238.84, "end": 239.84, "text": " other." }, { "start": 239.84, "end": 247.08, "text": " But their fate was sealed I think, so that's my take." }, { "start": 247.08, "end": 251.64000000000001, "text": " Did we talk about the Porsche design last week? I guess we did didn't we?" }, { "start": 251.64000000000001, "end": 254.36, "text": " Yeah because Vlad had one." }, { "start": 254.36, "end": 255.36, "text": " For reasons that are so much." }, { "start": 255.36, "end": 256.36, "text": " I should probably say hello." }, { "start": 256.36, "end": 257.36, "text": " Oh he's here." }, { "start": 257.36, "end": 258.36, "text": " Yeah he's here, nice." }, { "start": 258.36, "end": 259.36, "text": " Vlad's here." }, { "start": 259.36, "end": 265.76, "text": " I snuck in, I snuck in but since I am completely uninformed about what those three people who" }, { "start": 265.76, "end": 273.52, "text": " left BlackBerry did or what their value was or where they're going, so just keep quiet." }, { "start": 273.52, "end": 278.24, "text": " The ones that left, at least one of them was a pretty public face. Frank Bulbin was the" }, { "start": 278.24, "end": 283.64, "text": " chief marketing officer. He was always out there talking about, as much as Heinz was" }, { "start": 283.64, "end": 286.8, "text": " at least talking about BlackBerry and its plans and things like that. And it's been" }, { "start": 286.8, "end": 291.88, "text": " a very important role in hiring Alicia Keys I guess." }, { "start": 291.88, "end": 299.44, "text": " So it's a high level executive position. I honestly, if somebody is going to be brought" }, { "start": 299.44, "end": 305.08, "text": " in as a fixer, upper type of person as what this interim CEO John Chen is supposed to" }, { "start": 305.08, "end": 310.52, "text": " apparently be, then it only makes sense for him to get rid of the old guard and figure" }, { "start": 310.52, "end": 318.36, "text": " out something new. So I'm not terribly surprised by this move. But like Chris said, it's like" }, { "start": 318.36, "end": 320.68, "text": " rearranging the deck chairs in the Titanic." }, { "start": 320.68, "end": 325.8, "text": " I remember talking to Frank Bulbin when he was first hired, which wasn't that long ago." }, { "start": 325.8, "end": 332.68, "text": " He was hired by Heinz, if memory serves me correctly. And I can't remember where he" }, { "start": 332.68, "end": 341.44, "text": " came from. But yeah, he was a pretty, I think I talked to him literally within a couple" }, { "start": 341.44, "end": 346, "text": " weeks of him being hired. And I specifically remember asking a bunch of questions and him" }, { "start": 346, "end": 352.6, "text": " being like, look, I don't know. I just got here. So hopefully he was at least able to" }, { "start": 352.6, "end": 355.64, "text": " bring himself up to speed on the company before he was shown the door." }, { "start": 355.64, "end": 362.52, "text": " Here's my question. Why wasn't Alicia Keys fired in a very public way? Why hasn't any" }, { "start": 362.52, "end": 366.2, "text": " BlackBerry executive said, you know what, we put a lot of faith and trust into Alicia" }, { "start": 366.2, "end": 370.16, "text": " to turn this company around. She wasn't able to pull it off. We're going to have" }, { "start": 370.16, "end": 371.16, "text": " to let her go." }, { "start": 371.16, "end": 376.44, "text": " My question is, why wasn't she immediately promoted to B-level executive?" }, { "start": 376.44, "end": 379.92, "text": " Yeah, she should be the new chief executive." }, { "start": 379.92, "end": 380.92, "text": " That would be incredible." }, { "start": 380.92, "end": 383.92, "text": " Well, actually, there is something else." }, { "start": 383.92, "end": 386.40000000000003, "text": " Especially if she's still tweeting from her iPhone." }, { "start": 386.40000000000003, "end": 387.40000000000003, "text": " YOLO." }, { "start": 387.40000000000003, "end": 392.6, "text": " The first thing that bugs me with all of these departures is that nobody seems to be willing" }, { "start": 392.6, "end": 398.44000000000005, "text": " to say the word fired anymore. We all know people are getting fired left, right, and" }, { "start": 398.44, "end": 401.76, "text": " right, but everybody is stepping aside or stepping down." }, { "start": 401.76, "end": 408.68, "text": " Well, so this is how it goes with all of these companies. I just finished reading, I was" }, { "start": 408.68, "end": 411.96, "text": " saying this before we started, but I just finished reading Hatching Twitter, which is" }, { "start": 411.96, "end": 416.8, "text": " Nick Biltons of the New York Times. He wrote a book about how Twitter was started and all" }, { "start": 416.8, "end": 421.08, "text": " of the executive drama that happened for like three or four years there. And like on the" }, { "start": 421.08, "end": 425.15999999999997, "text": " public side of things, everything is done to save the face of the executive and save" }, { "start": 425.16, "end": 429.12, "text": " the face of the company by having them say, so and so is stepping aside and so and so" }, { "start": 429.12, "end": 434.76000000000005, "text": " is stepping down. But behind the scenes, it's like screaming in boardrooms and definite" }, { "start": 434.76000000000005, "end": 442.08000000000004, "text": " firings and things like that. But they always seem to give the up, unless in very rare circumstances" }, { "start": 442.08000000000004, "end": 449.58000000000004, "text": " where somebody legitimately gets fired for being violent, I don't know. But it's always" }, { "start": 449.58000000000004, "end": 454.1, "text": " made to seem like they stepped down or stepped aside or pursuing other interests or will" }, { "start": 454.1, "end": 459, "text": " be spending more time with their family or some other innocuous thing that lets them" }, { "start": 459, "end": 462.52000000000004, "text": " save their face for when they get hired on the next." }, { "start": 462.52000000000004, "end": 473.52000000000004, "text": " And I think a lot of that is tied to the departure package." }, { "start": 473.52000000000004, "end": 475.52000000000004, "text": " The Louis Vuitton golden parachute?" }, { "start": 475.52, "end": 485.59999999999997, "text": " Exactly. A good example is Sanofsky when he left Microsoft. I think this actually came" }, { "start": 485.59999999999997, "end": 491.52, "text": " out in some SEC filing that Microsoft had to make where they disclosed that he was under" }, { "start": 491.52, "end": 498.96, "text": " an NDA for some period of time and he couldn't disparage Microsoft publicly and in return" }, { "start": 498.96, "end": 505.4, "text": " he got some ridiculous amount of money. And me personally, if you give me $10 million" }, { "start": 505.4, "end": 513.98, "text": " to not say anything negative about an employer that I feel treated me poorly, I think that's" }, { "start": 513.98, "end": 517.54, "text": " an offer that I would probably take." }, { "start": 517.54, "end": 523.04, "text": " You know, I actually have a really awesome troll idea right here, which is that each" }, { "start": 523.04, "end": 526.9599999999999, "text": " one of these executives as part of the golden parachute should get one of these Porsche" }, { "start": 526.9599999999999, "end": 527.9599999999999, "text": " design Blackberries." }, { "start": 527.9599999999999, "end": 528.9599999999999, "text": " Nice." }, { "start": 528.96, "end": 536.72, "text": " We're going to recompense you with loads and loads of money in the form of Porsche design" }, { "start": 536.72, "end": 537.72, "text": " Blackberries." }, { "start": 537.72, "end": 541.84, "text": " Yeah, instead of giving $10 million they get 500 Porsche design Blackberries." }, { "start": 541.84, "end": 550.72, "text": " I would also like to see how long we can last without acknowledging Dieter trolling us." }, { "start": 550.72, "end": 554.24, "text": " Wait, is Dieter in the hangout?" }, { "start": 554.24, "end": 562.12, "text": " Dieter is present, but he's occupied right now. He's occupado. That doesn't mean he's" }, { "start": 562.12, "end": 567.6800000000001, "text": " not present and his heart's not with us. Yes." }, { "start": 567.6800000000001, "end": 571.44, "text": " Isn't occupado like Spanish for the bathroom is in use?" }, { "start": 571.44, "end": 574.64, "text": " That's just occupied." }, { "start": 574.64, "end": 579.44, "text": " You're saying that Dieter is going to the bathroom right now." }, { "start": 579.44, "end": 580.6800000000001, "text": " Dieter is going to the bathroom right now." }, { "start": 580.6800000000001, "end": 582.16, "text": " The bathroom is in use." }, { "start": 582.16, "end": 585.4399999999999, "text": " Yes, this is the micro studio slash bathroom." }, { "start": 585.4399999999999, "end": 589.48, "text": " It's a really weird place to broadcast video." }, { "start": 589.48, "end": 592.8, "text": " What is he doing?" }, { "start": 592.8, "end": 598.76, "text": " If you're watching the video of this, I apologize. If you're listening to the audio of this," }, { "start": 598.76, "end": 600.18, "text": " I also apologize." }, { "start": 600.18, "end": 601.18, "text": " I now have two Vlads." }, { "start": 601.18, "end": 602.18, "text": " I think we all have two Vlads." }, { "start": 602.18, "end": 605.28, "text": " I am the real one." }, { "start": 605.28, "end": 606.28, "text": " I've got two Vlads." }, { "start": 606.28, "end": 612.48, "text": " I am the real one. There is probably a remnant one of me left over because this Google hangout" }, { "start": 612.48, "end": 618.68, "text": " hates me, but I'm not giving up. I'm just going to keep coming back and multiplying" }, { "start": 618.68, "end": 620.68, "text": " until it lets me stay." }, { "start": 620.68, "end": 621.68, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 621.68, "end": 622.68, "text": " Awesome, guys." }, { "start": 622.68, "end": 633.56, "text": " Okay, so I've had enough talking about Blackberry. So apparently the FCC has allowed, it's already" }, { "start": 633.56, "end": 638.0799999999999, "text": " allowed gadgets in the first 10,000 feet of a flight, and now it's considering allowing" }, { "start": 638.0799999999999, "end": 644.3199999999999, "text": " phone calls, which is apparently, well not apparently, this is actually my worst nightmare" }, { "start": 644.3199999999999, "end": 652.52, "text": " ever. But it's up to the airlines, right, if they want to allow passengers to make phone" }, { "start": 652.52, "end": 654.8, "text": " calls while they're on a plane." }, { "start": 654.8, "end": 655.8, "text": " So here's my thought." }, { "start": 655.8, "end": 656.9, "text": " Why is everybody so outraged about that?" }, { "start": 656.9, "end": 666.8, "text": " So here's my thought on this. The FCC, they gave us one. You can use your devices on planes" }, { "start": 666.8, "end": 672.16, "text": " now, but you're going to suffer through the phone calls of every other passenger. It's" }, { "start": 672.16, "end": 673.16, "text": " equivalent exchange." }, { "start": 673.16, "end": 678.36, "text": " Vlad, if you've ever been trapped on a train with somebody who's like gabbing on the phone" }, { "start": 678.36, "end": 683.98, "text": " the entire time and you can't get away from it, that's what's wrong with it. Just magnify" }, { "start": 683.98, "end": 684.98, "text": " that on a plane." }, { "start": 684.98, "end": 691.4, "text": " All right, fair enough. There's a problem, but that is entirely a social problem. That" }, { "start": 691.4, "end": 696.36, "text": " is not a technological problem whatsoever. That basically tells you you need to sort" }, { "start": 696.36, "end": 700.64, "text": " out your culture and your fellow man, right? So next time you're stuck with somebody on" }, { "start": 700.64, "end": 706.44, "text": " the train and they're gabbing on and on, what you want to apply is a very subtle, very proportionate" }, { "start": 706.44, "end": 713.6800000000001, "text": " bit of violence so that they know not to do that. And from there, you evolve your society," }, { "start": 713.68, "end": 717.92, "text": " evolve your culture and things improve. Don't hold technology back just because you're" }, { "start": 717.92, "end": 720.4, "text": " kind of evil and weird and inconsiderate." }, { "start": 720.4, "end": 724.1999999999999, "text": " Well, I mean, I don't think that's holding technology back. The technology is there to" }, { "start": 724.1999999999999, "end": 729.4, "text": " do it now. It's just not allowed by regulations and the FCC is considering allowing it and" }, { "start": 729.4, "end": 734.4399999999999, "text": " letting airlines decide whether they will allow it on their planes or not. So I mean," }, { "start": 734.4399999999999, "end": 736.76, "text": " the technology is already moved on." }, { "start": 736.76, "end": 741.76, "text": " The regulation is holding the technical thing back, which is, you know, saying don't do," }, { "start": 741.76, "end": 747.68, "text": " I don't know, it's holding people back from doing the technical thing, I guess. But still," }, { "start": 747.68, "end": 754.12, "text": " I feel like if we were just a bit more considerate, this is a bonus and a positive thing for people." }, { "start": 754.12, "end": 761, "text": " Like if you're on a plane and there actually is some sort of real emergency, I mean, you" }, { "start": 761, "end": 765.4, "text": " know, listen, let's not get into like the terrorist situations or whatever, but when" }, { "start": 765.4, "end": 771.2, "text": " you look at documentaries, people try to leave messages for their loved ones and whatnot" }, { "start": 771.2, "end": 778.2, "text": " and I don't know, I mean, in those circumstances, it's kind of a useful thing and in more innocuous" }, { "start": 778.2800000000001, "end": 784.6, "text": " ones as well. I just think if we annoy one another, that's a social problem and we shouldn't" }, { "start": 784.6, "end": 789.2, "text": " be regulating that out of the way. We should be more considerate as society." }, { "start": 789.2, "end": 794.44, "text": " Well the silver lining here is that while it may be, you know, permissible from a regulatory" }, { "start": 794.44, "end": 801.44, "text": " standpoint, the airlines do have the option to just tell you to please, please don't use" }, { "start": 801.44, "end": 805.9200000000001, "text": " your phone. It's like a movie theater. You can still use your phone in a movie theater." }, { "start": 805.9200000000001, "end": 806.96, "text": " You just really shouldn't." }, { "start": 806.96, "end": 811.96, "text": " No, no, they'll kick you out of the movie theater. They can't like open the door." }, { "start": 811.96, "end": 818.96, "text": " Well they could. That would just be, that would be a really, I mean, that's like a" }, { "start": 818.96, "end": 825.96, "text": " pretty severe penalty for using your phone. So the point that's been made to me in the" }, { "start": 827.6800000000001, "end": 834.6800000000001, "text": " past, and this is a very fair point, is that until relatively recently, you could make" }, { "start": 836.2800000000001, "end": 842.22, "text": " calls on planes using Air, I think it was called Aircel, which was later purchased by" }, { "start": 842.22, "end": 848.36, "text": " Verizon and that spectrum that was used for that service, I believe, is what eventually" }, { "start": 848.36, "end": 855.36, "text": " became GoGo. So GoGo's data service is terrestrial based. They just use their own set of cell" }, { "start": 855.76, "end": 862.76, "text": " towers that are pointed upward instead of laterally, and that's how you get Wi-Fi in" }, { "start": 863.64, "end": 870.64, "text": " your plane right now. But this service effectively already existed, and no one ever used those" }, { "start": 870.76, "end": 876.4, "text": " phones, which is why the spectrum was sold off. And part of that was that it was just" }, { "start": 876.4, "end": 881.04, "text": " a very, very expensive service. I'm sure that lots of people would have liked to call" }, { "start": 881.04, "end": 884.88, "text": " their family and friends and say, hey, I'm calling you from 30,000 feet, but it was like" }, { "start": 884.88, "end": 891.88, "text": " $10 a minute or something. So I could see a situation where the airlines do allow it," }, { "start": 892.24, "end": 898.36, "text": " but say we're going to put just a ridiculous price on it, and so if you need to make an" }, { "start": 898.36, "end": 903.4, "text": " emergency call, some business related thing that needs to happen right now, you can do" }, { "start": 903.4, "end": 906.84, "text": " it. It's just going to cost you an arm and a leg, and that's going to keep the riff-raff" }, { "start": 906.84, "end": 913.84, "text": " off their phones. Thinking back over my lifetime and all the plane rides I've been on back" }, { "start": 914.42, "end": 918.8, "text": " when AirCell existed, I never saw a single person use any of those phones. So they can" }, { "start": 918.8, "end": 925, "text": " just price it as poorly as they priced AirCell that'll keep people off their phones." }, { "start": 925, "end": 931.04, "text": " But then there's another point, which is if I'm in one of those situations, my first" }, { "start": 931.04, "end": 934.36, "text": " port of call might actually be Skype using an internet connection." }, { "start": 934.36, "end": 934.8399999999999, "text": " Boom." }, { "start": 934.8399999999999, "end": 939.68, "text": " Right, so if you have Wi-Fi on the flight already, you can..." }, { "start": 939.68, "end": 941.8399999999999, "text": " But they block VoIP over..." }, { "start": 941.8399999999999, "end": 942.52, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 942.52, "end": 944.8, "text": " Airline Wi-Fi has VoIP blocked almost universally." }, { "start": 944.8, "end": 947.04, "text": " They block all streaming pretty much." }, { "start": 947.04, "end": 949.88, "text": " And I mean, the bandwidth is so terrible that..." }, { "start": 949.88, "end": 951.0799999999999, "text": " Okay, so..." }, { "start": 951.0799999999999, "end": 956.66, "text": " They block streaming? I don't know about that. I see people constantly sucking down massive" }, { "start": 956.66, "end": 959.88, "text": " Netflix quantities of data." }, { "start": 959.88, "end": 966.88, "text": " Who is watching Netflix on a plane? Like, what magical aircraft have you been on?" }, { "start": 967.68, "end": 970.56, "text": " Everyone is trying to use Netflix on a plane, okay?" }, { "start": 970.56, "end": 974.04, "text": " Not successfully. I guarantee you they're not doing it successfully. There are a lot" }, { "start": 974.04, "end": 977.66, "text": " of people who buy movies ahead of time on their iPad or iPhone or whatever and then" }, { "start": 977.66, "end": 980.72, "text": " watch it on the plane, but they're not streaming Netflix." }, { "start": 980.72, "end": 985.12, "text": " Wait, I'm sorry. How do they do that? Do they use iTunes?" }, { "start": 985.12, "end": 986.1, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 986.1, "end": 991.24, "text": " To purchase DRM-free music and MP4 files?" }, { "start": 991.24, "end": 996.24, "text": " No. Wait, what are you talking about? I don't know where Evan is going with this." }, { "start": 996.24, "end": 997.24, "text": " I don't..." }, { "start": 997.24, "end": 1003.32, "text": " Wait, I really want to know how Evan knows this much detail about the type of file being" }, { "start": 1003.32, "end": 1005.6800000000001, "text": " played back on somebody else's tablet." }, { "start": 1005.6800000000001, "end": 1007.96, "text": " Yeah, what's going on here, Evan?" }, { "start": 1007.96, "end": 1013.2, "text": " Actually, this is an incredible segue to a thing that is not on our topic list, but that" }, { "start": 1013.2, "end": 1016.2, "text": " I am extremely passionate about and that I would love to talk about." }, { "start": 1016.2, "end": 1023.2, "text": " Before you do it, I just have to clarify for my fellow European podcast participants, because" }, { "start": 1025.04, "end": 1031.5, "text": " we're all participants in this. My understanding of this is basically that America is land" }, { "start": 1031.5, "end": 1037.88, "text": " of the free, but heir of the regulated. Because all I've heard so far is, we don't do this," }, { "start": 1037.88, "end": 1043.0800000000002, "text": " we don't allow that, we regulate the other. Guys, this doesn't really fit with your whole..." }, { "start": 1043.08, "end": 1049.04, "text": " In all honesty, the airline industry is probably one of, if not the most regulated industries" }, { "start": 1049.04, "end": 1056.04, "text": " in the US. It's like, when you compare that to the firearms industry, it's like a complete" }, { "start": 1056.84, "end": 1058.52, "text": " different world." }, { "start": 1058.52, "end": 1065.52, "text": " Oh, also, complete irrelevant aside, but worth mentioning, I don't think you guys have..." }, { "start": 1065.52, "end": 1072.52, "text": " The Federal Agency for Food Safety doesn't have the right to shut down a particular production" }, { "start": 1073.6399999999999, "end": 1078.8799999999999, "text": " food. I think that's done at a state level, which kind of freaked me out." }, { "start": 1078.8799999999999, "end": 1082.92, "text": " I don't know enough about our own government to say yes or no, that's true or false, but" }, { "start": 1082.92, "end": 1087.68, "text": " I wouldn't be surprised." }, { "start": 1087.68, "end": 1094.68, "text": " Let's cast this using avocados as an example. There's an avocado plant in California that's" }, { "start": 1094.68, "end": 1101.68, "text": " producing rancid avocados. You're saying that the FDA can't be like, yo, stop doing..." }, { "start": 1101.68, "end": 1106.1200000000001, "text": " Or no, it wouldn't be the FDA, it would be the USDA. The USDA can definitely do that." }, { "start": 1106.1200000000001, "end": 1109.6000000000001, "text": " They can definitely shut down a factory that's producing rancid avocados." }, { "start": 1109.6000000000001, "end": 1115.88, "text": " The USDA has shut down entire tomato pipelines for salmonella before." }, { "start": 1115.88, "end": 1122.3, "text": " I like the idea of an actual pipeline with tomatoes going through it. They screw down" }, { "start": 1122.3, "end": 1127.3999999999999, "text": " a valve and the tomato supply just cuts off." }, { "start": 1127.3999999999999, "end": 1134.3999999999999, "text": " It's all routed through the USDA headquarters. They're just like, well, tomatoes, not today." }, { "start": 1135.52, "end": 1140.8799999999999, "text": " To Chris' example about avocados, that would actually be a pretty major impact on the California" }, { "start": 1140.8799999999999, "end": 1144.8, "text": " economy, particularly if it happens sometime around the Super Bowl." }, { "start": 1144.8, "end": 1145.72, "text": " It would be, yeah." }, { "start": 1145.72, "end": 1151.96, "text": " Because guacamole consumption around the Super Bowl is a major deal for the US economy." }, { "start": 1151.96, "end": 1157.88, "text": " I guess I might be spreading some misinformation, but all I know is it was part of my research." }, { "start": 1157.88, "end": 1164.88, "text": " When the US was shut down, when the state things were running in skeletal mode, there" }, { "start": 1165.48, "end": 1170.48, "text": " was a salmonella outbreak, again, in California with some chicken." }, { "start": 1170.48, "end": 1177.1200000000001, "text": " Well, when the government was shut down, that was the major problem, was because things" }, { "start": 1177.12, "end": 1182.6399999999999, "text": " like the FDA didn't have the resources available to do their job. They couldn't enforce their" }, { "start": 1182.6399999999999, "end": 1189.6399999999999, "text": " jobs and do the necessary food inspections and all that jazz because the government was" }, { "start": 1189.6399999999999, "end": 1189.84, "text": " shut down." }, { "start": 1189.84, "end": 1196.84, "text": " While I was looking into that, somebody pointed out that they didn't have quite as much regulatory" }, { "start": 1197, "end": 1202.6, "text": " reach and power as they really should do, even when they're fully functional. Again," }, { "start": 1202.6, "end": 1208.1599999999999, "text": " that was not today, so obviously it's not part of my memory. Evan, I would just like" }, { "start": 1208.1599999999999, "end": 1215.1599999999999, "text": " to point out, you've been to this podcast. It's just tradition to cut off a perfect segue," }, { "start": 1215.34, "end": 1222.34, "text": " but now that I've taken care of that, please pick up the segue." }, { "start": 1222.34, "end": 1229.34, "text": " I wanted to speak a little bit about a recent Anandtech article by Brian Kluge about removable" }, { "start": 1234.82, "end": 1241.82, "text": " storage and removable batteries on Android phones. One of them is very important to me." }, { "start": 1242.6599999999999, "end": 1247.54, "text": " The other one I could not care less about. Removable batteries, I mean, we've talked" }, { "start": 1247.54, "end": 1252.54, "text": " about this before. It's really great. You get an extra Galaxy S4 battery and you just" }, { "start": 1252.54, "end": 1258.58, "text": " slap it in there when you're out of juice. But removable storage, this is something I'm" }, { "start": 1258.58, "end": 1265.58, "text": " very, very passionate about. In fact, it was one of the main motivating reasons for me" }, { "start": 1265.82, "end": 1272.82, "text": " to get an Xperia Z1, by the way. America, oh God, it's so great. The Z1 is the best" }, { "start": 1272.82, "end": 1279.82, "text": " cell phone I have ever owned in my life. For example, I'm going to come back to removable" }, { "start": 1279.86, "end": 1285.86, "text": " storage in just one moment, but anecdotally, yesterday I had this phone in the sauna for" }, { "start": 1285.86, "end": 1291.58, "text": " 20 minutes, 25 minutes, totally fine. Asterisk, I'm not responsible if you take your phone" }, { "start": 1291.58, "end": 1295.58, "text": " in the sauna and it doesn't work. Then I took it in the shower, perfectly great. Listened" }, { "start": 1295.58, "end": 1301.58, "text": " to podcasts while I was in there. So good. There's no, there's no reason to be afraid" }, { "start": 1301.58, "end": 1305.9399999999998, "text": " of that. There's no, there's no... That is a lie. That is a lie. I have to dispute" }, { "start": 1305.9399999999998, "end": 1310.1399999999999, "text": " that, because if you're in the shower, the splashing of the water actually gets in the" }, { "start": 1310.1399999999999, "end": 1315.74, "text": " way of listening to the podcast. Well, you don't like bathe with the Z1 like as a bar" }, { "start": 1315.74, "end": 1321.98, "text": " of soap. Like you set it off to the side. Yeah, but still... This whole conversation" }, { "start": 1321.98, "end": 1328.26, "text": " is making me really uncomfortable, okay? Like don't take your phone into the Turkish bathhouse" }, { "start": 1328.26, "end": 1335.26, "text": " and you'll be fine. Okay, anyway. So, part of what Brian is saying is that there are" }, { "start": 1337.62, "end": 1344.62, "text": " a lot of trade-offs that you give up for removable storage and removable batteries. And one" }, { "start": 1346.58, "end": 1353.46, "text": " of his points, and that's very true, I mean it's really, really true. He makes a point" }, { "start": 1353.46, "end": 1360.46, "text": " about unibody kind of product design. And I mean, you can fit a 3000 milliamp battery" }, { "start": 1361.82, "end": 1367.18, "text": " in a space that would only allow you to get a 2200 milliamp battery from a few generations" }, { "start": 1367.18, "end": 1372.22, "text": " ago with a removable back. That's very true. And really, I don't miss removable batteries" }, { "start": 1372.22, "end": 1379.22, "text": " at all, because I'm not really road warrior-ing that hard. But on Android, there's kind of" }, { "start": 1379.22, "end": 1386.22, "text": " this thing that I wanted to talk about, and that is that Android is not set up to integrate" }, { "start": 1386.8600000000001, "end": 1393.8600000000001, "text": " very well with external storage. And this is something that I find to just be like malarkey." }, { "start": 1394.18, "end": 1399.98, "text": " First and foremost... Watch your language, Evan. I know, I know. This is a family show," }, { "start": 1399.98, "end": 1406.98, "text": " Evan. I'm really... Throwing around those... Taking us to a dark... Seven-letter words." }, { "start": 1406.98, "end": 1411.6200000000001, "text": " Is that everyone had to build up the courage for like five minutes to call out Brian Kug." }, { "start": 1411.6200000000001, "end": 1416.98, "text": " He's just kind of dodging around the issue, dodging around the issue. And now, let's get" }, { "start": 1416.98, "end": 1422.7, "text": " to the meat, Evan. What is your issue? So there's two things going on here, and that" }, { "start": 1422.7, "end": 1428.3, "text": " is a technological issue, like a technological and software issue. And then there's the kind" }, { "start": 1428.3, "end": 1434.02, "text": " of corporate strategy issue that I have with Google and its control over Android and its" }, { "start": 1434.02, "end": 1441.02, "text": " pleasure with external storage. And basically, what it comes down to is Google doesn't want" }, { "start": 1443.1, "end": 1447.06, "text": " you to have external storage, and Google doesn't really want you to have a very high-capacity" }, { "start": 1447.06, "end": 1451.86, "text": " phone. I don't want you to have external storage. That's a personal problem, and I take offense" }, { "start": 1451.86, "end": 1456.1, "text": " to that. Think about all the horrible things you could be doing with external storage." }, { "start": 1456.1, "end": 1461.18, "text": " I think the world is just better if you don't have external storage. Yeah, well, it's such" }, { "start": 1461.18, "end": 1468.18, "text": " a pain in the you-know-what to have to think about where your media is going. It should" }, { "start": 1472.0600000000002, "end": 1476.14, "text": " just be one contiguous block, and the only effective way to do that is to have it all" }, { "start": 1476.14, "end": 1481.6200000000001, "text": " be... I mean, this has been the Windows Phone argument, too, right? That is not true. That" }, { "start": 1481.6200000000001, "end": 1486.94, "text": " is absolutely not true. If you remember the original Windows Phones, the Windows Phone" }, { "start": 1486.94, "end": 1492.6200000000001, "text": " 7s... Yeah, but that was a nightmare. That was a nightmare, and Samsung got into a world" }, { "start": 1492.6200000000001, "end": 1498.22, "text": " of hurt because of it. What do you mean? Okay, why was it a nightmare? It seems like the" }, { "start": 1498.22, "end": 1505.22, "text": " actual opposite of a nightmare in that that was part... A dream. It was a dream. No, what" }, { "start": 1506.1000000000001, "end": 1513.1000000000001, "text": " you can do is you can absolutely format and contain your storage even on two different" }, { "start": 1513.1, "end": 1520.1, "text": " volumes. You can format it and either stripe it or just make two logical drives into one" }, { "start": 1523.2199999999998, "end": 1530.2199999999998, "text": " logical drive. It's very possible from a software front, and it could be integrated into Android" }, { "start": 1530.3799999999999, "end": 1536.02, "text": " very, very easily. That does prevent you from ever taking it out. If you ever take it out," }, { "start": 1536.02, "end": 1543.02, "text": " all your stuff is gone. So what is the point of external storage? I think Evan is on the" }, { "start": 1544.3799999999999, "end": 1551.3799999999999, "text": " brink of suggesting RAID storage and multiple microSD cards. It can be done. It can totally" }, { "start": 1552.78, "end": 1558.02, "text": " be done. Now the problem that Chris just brought up with the Samsungs was that the... I can't" }, { "start": 1558.02, "end": 1560.82, "text": " remember the name of the phone right now, but the first Samsung Windows Phone had a" }, { "start": 1560.82, "end": 1566.98, "text": " microSD card slot and you put your card in and it would format it and then you could" }, { "start": 1566.98, "end": 1573.5, "text": " never use that card for anything else. It was like your card was just shot. Okay, so" }, { "start": 1573.5, "end": 1578.8799999999999, "text": " what you're talking about is one poor software implementation from Samsung. Who ever heard" }, { "start": 1578.8799999999999, "end": 1585.62, "text": " of that, A. And B, it can be done better. It can absolutely be done better. I feel like" }, { "start": 1585.62, "end": 1591.06, "text": " this is a conversation and argument you should have made in like 2009, man. Okay, yeah. And" }, { "start": 1591.06, "end": 1598.06, "text": " guys, I need to make a point here. Hold on. A physical point, which is quite aside from" }, { "start": 1598.06, "end": 1605.06, "text": " the really in-depth and techy stuff that everyone is talking about, microSD cards are just tiny." }, { "start": 1605.06, "end": 1610.78, "text": " And I'm digging around for one right now and I can't find it. And the thing is, I can get" }, { "start": 1610.78, "end": 1614.3799999999999, "text": " behind the whole... Let's have removable storage. Let's have like, I have one card with all" }, { "start": 1614.38, "end": 1618.9, "text": " of my movies on it. I have another card with like my dubstep albums on it and such and" }, { "start": 1618.9, "end": 1624.22, "text": " such. And if we do a really good implementation... One whole card just for your dubstep?" }, { "start": 1624.22, "end": 1631.22, "text": " 64 gigs of dubstep. At least. You can't... It's only like..." }, { "start": 1633.98, "end": 1636.9, "text": " I will find a microSD card. It's three songs on one card." }, { "start": 1636.9, "end": 1643.9, "text": " Okay, nope. SIM card adapters. I have... Are you really struggling to find your SD card" }, { "start": 1643.9, "end": 1648.46, "text": " right now? I'm holding one up to the camera. Here we go. Here we go. See? Okay. There." }, { "start": 1648.46, "end": 1653.3400000000001, "text": " Yeah. There we go. I mean, look at how freaking tiny these things are. I mean, the best..." }, { "start": 1653.3400000000001, "end": 1657.14, "text": " The most common thing people do with them is lose them when they're not in the phone." }, { "start": 1657.14, "end": 1661.1000000000001, "text": " So this is my issue... That works out for SanDisk." }, { "start": 1661.1000000000001, "end": 1665.98, "text": " Yeah, but we... I don't own any stock in SanDisk, so I can keep going." }, { "start": 1665.98, "end": 1668.5400000000002, "text": " Well, listen. So basically the point I want to make..." }, { "start": 1668.5400000000002, "end": 1671.7, "text": " I was just trying to make my point, man. Let me just finish it quickly." }, { "start": 1671.7, "end": 1673.74, "text": " Do it. It's very brief. It's..." }, { "start": 1673.74, "end": 1677.38, "text": " Removable media made sense back in the day when removable media was something you could" }, { "start": 1677.38, "end": 1681.38, "text": " graph. Like, you know, something you could handle. A cartridge." }, { "start": 1681.38, "end": 1685.18, "text": " Like a CF. A mini disk. Or whatever. Right. A CF. Yeah. Perfect" }, { "start": 1685.18, "end": 1691.94, "text": " example. When it's this freaking tiny, it's just way too easy to lose. So the removable" }, { "start": 1691.94, "end": 1697.74, "text": " aspect actually just becomes a pain and a chore." }, { "start": 1697.74, "end": 1702.9, "text": " I mean, that is true. That is very true. And really, like, once you put in your microSD" }, { "start": 1702.9, "end": 1708.38, "text": " card, it's kind of just, like, in there. And I don't know very many people that are, like," }, { "start": 1708.38, "end": 1712.14, "text": " actively swapping, like, I take so many pictures, then I have to swap to the next card so I" }, { "start": 1712.14, "end": 1715.66, "text": " can blast through 3,000 more 8 megapixel cell phone pictures." }, { "start": 1715.66, "end": 1719.38, "text": " If you know one of those people, I would like to know them too." }, { "start": 1719.38, "end": 1723.9, "text": " Well, I mean, there's lots of people that fill up their phones with pictures all day" }, { "start": 1723.9, "end": 1730.14, "text": " long. You know, my wife does that all the time. But I think, you know, I understand" }, { "start": 1730.14, "end": 1735.7800000000002, "text": " what you're saying, Evan. But I think that external storage is really not going to come" }, { "start": 1735.7800000000002, "end": 1741.7800000000002, "text": " back outside of the world of Samsung any time soon. What I do wish would happen is I wish" }, { "start": 1741.7800000000002, "end": 1748.7800000000002, "text": " that manufacturers, especially manufacturers like Apple, would not charge such a huge premium" }, { "start": 1749.1000000000001, "end": 1751.9, "text": " to get a decent amount of storage built into the device." }, { "start": 1751.9, "end": 1756.0200000000002, "text": " Well, so here's what I would… It doesn't cost $100 to put 16 gigs more" }, { "start": 1756.02, "end": 1763.02, "text": " storage in it. It costs, like, $3.12. So it's, like, the difference in price between a base" }, { "start": 1763.42, "end": 1767.22, "text": " level iPhone and an iPhone that's, like, got a usable amount of storage is, like, ridiculous." }, { "start": 1767.22, "end": 1769.36, "text": " The same could be said for the iPads." }, { "start": 1769.36, "end": 1775.8799999999999, "text": " I mean, it's very true. But here's my, like, real kind of larger problem with this," }, { "start": 1775.8799999999999, "end": 1780.22, "text": " is that, you know, the first… When you talk about removable storage on Android, the first" }, { "start": 1780.22, "end": 1784.78, "text": " thing people come back with is, well, I mean, phones come with 32 gigs now. Phones come" }, { "start": 1784.78, "end": 1791.78, "text": " with 64 gigs, you know, storage. Or an option that you can get, it is super expensive." }, { "start": 1791.78, "end": 1798.78, "text": " Oh, Evan froze. He can't make his point. Poor Evan." }, { "start": 1799.34, "end": 1805.06, "text": " Well, he's been talking about Android phones on Google Hangout. What do you expect?" }, { "start": 1805.06, "end": 1810.06, "text": " Google shut down that conversation. So let's move on." }, { "start": 1810.06, "end": 1815.06, "text": " Well, actually, before we do… It's really anti-communicative, that rant." }, { "start": 1815.06, "end": 1820.74, "text": " Before we do, let me actually squeeze in an extra rant, which is on the SIM extractor" }, { "start": 1820.74, "end": 1826.4199999999998, "text": " tool. So, like, in looking for the micro Z card, I dug up all of mine, and like I said," }, { "start": 1826.4199999999998, "end": 1830.86, "text": " I've got, like, a dozen of them. And the one on the Nexus 5…" }, { "start": 1830.86, "end": 1833.82, "text": " The one on the Nexus 5 is really, really tiny." }, { "start": 1833.82, "end": 1834.46, "text": " Hello." }, { "start": 1834.46, "end": 1835.58, "text": " Hey, Evan." }, { "start": 1835.58, "end": 1836.8999999999999, "text": " Sorry about that." }, { "start": 1836.9, "end": 1843.02, "text": " And it's really skinny. And actually, using the LG G2 SIM extraction tool on the Nexus" }, { "start": 1843.02, "end": 1849.3400000000001, "text": " 5, it's too thick. I find quite a lot of them are actually too thick. Then there's" }, { "start": 1849.3400000000001, "end": 1854.24, "text": " this Nokia one, which is, like, really shallow and bent at this point, which doesn't get" }, { "start": 1854.24, "end": 1858.1000000000001, "text": " deep enough on some phones. And this is the thing I discovered, that there's actually" }, { "start": 1858.1000000000001, "end": 1860.98, "text": " fragmentation in SIM extraction tools." }, { "start": 1860.98, "end": 1867.58, "text": " Yeah. I discovered this exact issue last year with the Nexus 4, because the Nexus 4 is a" }, { "start": 1867.58, "end": 1875.58, "text": " really tiny SIM slot hole, and I couldn't… I've always kept a Nokia pin on my keychain" }, { "start": 1875.58, "end": 1880.9, "text": " at all times for this exact reason, and I couldn't fit it into the Nexus 4." }, { "start": 1880.9, "end": 1885.34, "text": " I carry around this bent paperclip, because I can never manage to hang on to SIM extracting" }, { "start": 1885.34, "end": 1890.6, "text": " tools, and this works for, like, 95% of phones, except for the stupid Nexus 5, and even sometimes" }, { "start": 1890.6, "end": 1894.8999999999999, "text": " the Nexus 4, because it's literally… this tiny little thing is too thick to fit in the" }, { "start": 1894.8999999999999, "end": 1901.5, "text": " Nexus 5's slot. So, yeah. Fragmentation, man." }, { "start": 1901.5, "end": 1906.1, "text": " And weirdly enough, I'm with Christian on this one. I think Nokia and Apple make the" }, { "start": 1906.1, "end": 1913.54, "text": " best SIM extraction tools, if anybody cares. And Evan is so dismissive of this exact conversation," }, { "start": 1913.54, "end": 1915.74, "text": " he left us again." }, { "start": 1915.74, "end": 1917.1399999999999, "text": " What they really do…" }, { "start": 1917.1399999999999, "end": 1919.1399999999999, "text": " Do iPhones even come with a SIM extraction tool?" }, { "start": 1919.14, "end": 1923.5, "text": " Not anymore. They used to, right? At one time, maybe?" }, { "start": 1923.5, "end": 1924.5, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 1924.5, "end": 1927.3400000000001, "text": " They must… what are you talking about? They must do." }, { "start": 1927.3400000000001, "end": 1928.3400000000001, "text": " I don't think they do anymore." }, { "start": 1928.3400000000001, "end": 1930.66, "text": " No, because the SIM is already in the phone when you buy it." }, { "start": 1930.66, "end": 1931.66, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1931.66, "end": 1935.0200000000002, "text": " Well, for you guys, I get a lot of iPhones." }, { "start": 1935.0200000000002, "end": 1941.3000000000002, "text": " Yeah, I was going to say, Apple is selling a SIM-free phone now. This just happened in," }, { "start": 1941.3000000000002, "end": 1946.1000000000001, "text": " like, the past week. They started stocking the SIM-free phones in US stores. So, I mean," }, { "start": 1946.1, "end": 1950.4199999999998, "text": " yeah, they must include a tool with those, I guess. But I'm 99% sure there wasn't" }, { "start": 1950.4199999999998, "end": 1951.4199999999998, "text": " one in my box." }, { "start": 1951.4199999999998, "end": 1959.06, "text": " Yeah, I don't think there is in most retail boxes. I think that Apple just expects you" }, { "start": 1959.06, "end": 1963.3, "text": " to either have one, if you're looking for one, or their Apple store employees will handle" }, { "start": 1963.3, "end": 1964.3, "text": " the SIMs." }, { "start": 1964.3, "end": 1967.5, "text": " Keep in mind, this is the company that's been trying for at least two and a half or" }, { "start": 1967.5, "end": 1972.9199999999998, "text": " three years now to move to embedded SIMs. So, it's little surprise that they would" }, { "start": 1972.9199999999998, "end": 1975.58, "text": " make the SIM as difficult to get to as possible." }, { "start": 1975.58, "end": 1976.58, "text": " I have returned." }, { "start": 1976.58, "end": 1980.1399999999999, "text": " We'll see how long this one lasts." }, { "start": 1980.1399999999999, "end": 1984.98, "text": " Yes, yes. Wait, can someone catch me up? You're really talking about SIM extraction tools" }, { "start": 1984.98, "end": 1985.98, "text": " right now?" }, { "start": 1985.98, "end": 1989.26, "text": " Yes. Which I'm sure you have some strong thoughts on, Evan." }, { "start": 1989.26, "end": 1995.58, "text": " I have no, I mean, it's whatever. I keep a Nokia and an Apple one on my keychain." }, { "start": 1995.58, "end": 1996.58, "text": " Both?" }, { "start": 1996.58, "end": 1997.58, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 1997.58, "end": 1999.34, "text": " But aren't they interchangeable? The problem is the LG..." }, { "start": 1999.34, "end": 2004.5, "text": " No, the Nexus 5. You need to have a super thin one, like the Nokia one that comes with" }, { "start": 2004.5, "end": 2006.98, "text": " the Lumia 1020 to get into the phones like..." }, { "start": 2006.98, "end": 2009.7, "text": " My Nokia one is way too thick for LG phones." }, { "start": 2009.7, "end": 2013.02, "text": " Sorry, man. That sounds like a personal problem." }, { "start": 2013.02, "end": 2017.06, "text": " I still haven't bought a Nexus 5. Should I buy a Nexus 5?" }, { "start": 2017.06, "end": 2018.06, "text": " Absolutely not." }, { "start": 2018.06, "end": 2023.7, "text": " No, because you missed your opportunity to spend $800 on it from Best Buy, and now you" }, { "start": 2023.7, "end": 2029.7, "text": " would have to buy it for a reasonable $350. So, I don't see why you would purchase one." }, { "start": 2029.7, "end": 2034.14, "text": " I still like the Nexus 4. I don't know." }, { "start": 2034.14, "end": 2035.14, "text": " That's not a bad phone." }, { "start": 2035.14, "end": 2036.14, "text": " You can buy a Nexus 4." }, { "start": 2036.14, "end": 2040.94, "text": " Good reason why you should buy a Nexus 4. But Evan, I intend to hook. Do you want to" }, { "start": 2040.94, "end": 2042.8200000000002, "text": " wrap up the micro SD point here?" }, { "start": 2042.8200000000002, "end": 2049.06, "text": " Yeah, yeah, yeah. I totally do. I totally do. So, in America, all of the flagship phones" }, { "start": 2049.06, "end": 2061.82, "text": " pretty much come with 32 and 64 gig options, minus the carrier Galaxy S4s. But if you want" }, { "start": 2061.82, "end": 2066.86, "text": " something cheaper and you're buying phones off contract, it's really hard to find storage" }, { "start": 2066.86, "end": 2073.98, "text": " options. The HTC One Mini is a good example. That only comes in 16 gigs. And a lot of lower" }, { "start": 2073.98, "end": 2080.6200000000003, "text": " end phones either have removable storage to keep the costs really low, and those are true" }, { "start": 2080.6200000000003, "end": 2088.1800000000003, "text": " low cost devices, or smaller phones that you would imagine to be a little bit lower cost." }, { "start": 2088.18, "end": 2093.64, "text": " They really only come with 16 gig options. And if you're, like most people I would imagine," }, { "start": 2093.64, "end": 2099.94, "text": " if you have constant access to LTE, then you're great. You can use all of Google services" }, { "start": 2099.94, "end": 2103.66, "text": " and you can contribute to their data sets, and that is super fine and peachy. But if" }, { "start": 2103.66, "end": 2108.18, "text": " you live internationally, and A, you don't have access to Google Music or some of the" }, { "start": 2108.18, "end": 2113.8599999999997, "text": " streaming options that are available in America, then you're screwed. You get 16 gigs and that's" }, { "start": 2113.8599999999997, "end": 2114.8599999999997, "text": " all you can get." }, { "start": 2114.86, "end": 2121.26, "text": " Wow, so the rest of us outside of America are just completely off the web as far as" }, { "start": 2121.26, "end": 2122.26, "text": " you're concerned." }, { "start": 2122.26, "end": 2123.86, "text": " As far as what's concerned?" }, { "start": 2123.86, "end": 2129.3, "text": " We need our storage because we have no web services whatsoever. Spotify just popped up" }, { "start": 2129.3, "end": 2130.78, "text": " in the States one day." }, { "start": 2130.78, "end": 2135.7000000000003, "text": " Yeah, that's true. There's no wireless outside the US." }, { "start": 2135.7000000000003, "end": 2138.7000000000003, "text": " Didn't Al Gore invent Spotify?" }, { "start": 2138.7000000000003, "end": 2139.7000000000003, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 2139.7000000000003, "end": 2142.7000000000003, "text": " Oh, for the Sunday." }, { "start": 2142.7, "end": 2147.8599999999997, "text": " They're still communicating by carrier pigeon in the UK." }, { "start": 2147.8599999999997, "end": 2148.8599999999997, "text": " I mean, ugh." }, { "start": 2148.8599999999997, "end": 2153.54, "text": " When we can, because the other thing is we also don't have any food infrastructure, so" }, { "start": 2153.54, "end": 2158.2999999999997, "text": " we kind of tend to eat our pigeons, particularly here in the winter." }, { "start": 2158.2999999999997, "end": 2161.5, "text": " There's a really good joke about terrible English food in there, but I'm going to leave" }, { "start": 2161.5, "end": 2162.5, "text": " it alone." }, { "start": 2162.5, "end": 2163.5, "text": " Oh, man." }, { "start": 2163.5, "end": 2173.3, "text": " You do know that actually one of the famous curries is invented in Birmingham in the UK," }, { "start": 2173.3, "end": 2178.46, "text": " the Bounty Curry. So there you go." }, { "start": 2178.46, "end": 2180.74, "text": " But what does that have to do with LTE?" }, { "start": 2180.74, "end": 2182.78, "text": " It has to do with food." }, { "start": 2182.78, "end": 2184.78, "text": " It takes up so much longer to order it." }, { "start": 2184.78, "end": 2188.74, "text": " Yeah, that's true. All right, so you guys want to talk about Windows Phone? Instagram?" }, { "start": 2188.74, "end": 2189.74, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 2189.74, "end": 2190.74, "text": " Let's do that." }, { "start": 2190.74, "end": 2191.74, "text": " Let's do that." }, { "start": 2191.74, "end": 2197.9799999999996, "text": " So last week, Instagram finally came to Windows Phone in an official capacity, and there was" }, { "start": 2197.9799999999996, "end": 2202.9799999999996, "text": " a bit of confusion initially about how the app actually worked, but it turns out you" }, { "start": 2202.9799999999996, "end": 2210.54, "text": " can indeed take photos with the Instagram app on Windows Phone, but you can't record" }, { "start": 2210.54, "end": 2214.8199999999997, "text": " videos, which is kind of a bummer and kind of a pretty big feature for Instagram these" }, { "start": 2214.8199999999997, "end": 2216.2999999999997, "text": " days." }, { "start": 2216.3, "end": 2223.38, "text": " Yeah, it's a – the whole thing was just a train wreck from beginning to end. So they" }, { "start": 2223.38, "end": 2231.86, "text": " actually – Instagram was telling outlets, including us, that you could not take photos" }, { "start": 2231.86, "end": 2235.54, "text": " from within the app, and that's still like technically true." }, { "start": 2235.54, "end": 2237.34, "text": " Isn't that technically true?" }, { "start": 2237.34, "end": 2241.98, "text": " Yeah, because you go to the – you go to the camera roll, and then you can take a photo" }, { "start": 2241.98, "end": 2250.06, "text": " from there, but like why would you mince words against your product? Like go ahead and just" }, { "start": 2250.06, "end": 2255.38, "text": " take the mulligan and say yes, you can take photos with the app, because in reality you" }, { "start": 2255.38, "end": 2259.3, "text": " can. It's just on a technicality you have to go outside the app to do it, but still" }, { "start": 2259.3, "end": 2262.22, "text": " from within the app. So it's really weird." }, { "start": 2262.22, "end": 2266.98, "text": " Yeah, it's a different order of things than say like on Android or iOS where you get to" }, { "start": 2266.98, "end": 2272.38, "text": " like take your photo immediately, but it's – I mean at the end of the day you can still" }, { "start": 2272.38, "end": 2274.7, "text": " open up the app, hit a button, and take photos." }, { "start": 2274.7, "end": 2279.82, "text": " It's just so funny that that was the kind of turn of events, because this is such an" }, { "start": 2279.82, "end": 2285.06, "text": " anticipated moment for Windows Phone, and then it just gets immediately so weird." }, { "start": 2285.06, "end": 2289.7400000000002, "text": " Trashed. And even so though, you still can't do video recording with it. So they're not" }, { "start": 2289.74, "end": 2298.62, "text": " at feature parity, and it seems like there was some rush imposed, most likely by Microsoft," }, { "start": 2298.62, "end": 2302.3799999999997, "text": " to get this product out of the door, probably in time for the holidays, because Instagram" }, { "start": 2302.3799999999997, "end": 2310.3799999999997, "text": " is such a big name and was the most important remaining hole in their app lineup, but it's" }, { "start": 2310.3799999999997, "end": 2315.8599999999997, "text": " kind of a hollow victory because they didn't close the gap completely. They wanted the" }, { "start": 2315.86, "end": 2321.34, "text": " name without regard for making sure that the app was every bit as good as it is on other" }, { "start": 2321.34, "end": 2322.34, "text": " platforms." }, { "start": 2322.34, "end": 2327.42, "text": " And then of course there's the ongoing issue, and Tom Warren pointed this out in a report" }, { "start": 2327.42, "end": 2336.54, "text": " that he did on quote-unquote closing the app gap, that once the app is launched, be it" }, { "start": 2336.54, "end": 2342.82, "text": " Instagram, be it Vine, be it Twitter, whatever, none of these developers are as committed" }, { "start": 2342.82, "end": 2347.86, "text": " to keeping those apps updated on Windows Phone as they are on Android and iOS for good reason," }, { "start": 2347.86, "end": 2353.7000000000003, "text": " because they have a tenth of the users. So there's not, you know, the impetus and the" }, { "start": 2353.7000000000003, "end": 2360.5800000000004, "text": " incentive to keep those users happy isn't as strong mathematically as it is on other" }, { "start": 2360.5800000000004, "end": 2365.02, "text": " platforms, and that is going to be an ongoing challenge for Microsoft." }, { "start": 2365.02, "end": 2372.1000000000004, "text": " We even see this with Android. Android might have all of the same big name apps as iOS," }, { "start": 2372.1, "end": 2376.14, "text": " but when new features come out, they come to iOS first and then maybe months later show" }, { "start": 2376.14, "end": 2382.2599999999998, "text": " up on Android. I think Instagram's been pretty good about keeping its Android app sort of" }, { "start": 2382.2599999999998, "end": 2388.06, "text": " concurrent with the iOS one, but there's still some things that it's missing, and other apps" }, { "start": 2388.06, "end": 2394.38, "text": " are much worse offenders where it'll be a long time between the feature parity. So you" }, { "start": 2394.38, "end": 2397.2599999999998, "text": " could just magnify that for Windows Phone." }, { "start": 2397.26, "end": 2402.9, "text": " And you know, we've seen that with, just an example, is like the official Twitter app." }, { "start": 2402.9, "end": 2407.6200000000003, "text": " The official Twitter apps on iOS and Android generally get updated the same day. They're" }, { "start": 2407.6200000000003, "end": 2411.3, "text": " the same day, they get the same new features, and then months and months later they'll come" }, { "start": 2411.3, "end": 2417.2200000000003, "text": " to Windows Phone. I think it was just recently updated to let you set, get alerts when somebody" }, { "start": 2417.2200000000003, "end": 2422.94, "text": " tweets. So now you can finally get like mobile alerts through the app when you set, say so" }, { "start": 2422.94, "end": 2429.46, "text": " when Barack Obama tweets or whatever, it'll alert you through the app, which the Android" }, { "start": 2429.46, "end": 2432.82, "text": " and iOS have had for a long, long time." }, { "start": 2432.82, "end": 2436.66, "text": " Of course the other problem is that there's still, Microsoft is still chasing these big" }, { "start": 2436.66, "end": 2440.62, "text": " name apps that are already out, but when new like really buzz-worthy apps come out, and" }, { "start": 2440.62, "end": 2444.14, "text": " the example that I used on Twitter when I was talking about this last week is QuizUp," }, { "start": 2444.14, "end": 2450.62, "text": " which is a really hot app for iOS right now. That won't come out for Windows Phone for" }, { "start": 2450.62, "end": 2455.22, "text": " months if ever. I don't know if QuizUp has plans to launch on Windows Phone, although" }, { "start": 2455.22, "end": 2459.9, "text": " you probably don't want to download it right now anyway with the privacy issues." }, { "start": 2459.9, "end": 2466.9, "text": " Regardless, the point is, the developers that are trying to get these new apps off the ground" }, { "start": 2467.2999999999997, "end": 2474.14, "text": " naturally choose iOS and to some extent Android on day one. Rim Capsule is another example" }, { "start": 2474.14, "end": 2475.7799999999997, "text": " of a huge app." }, { "start": 2475.78, "end": 2482.78, "text": " People run two. The biggest one that's the most amusing to me is Mirrors Edge, which" }, { "start": 2486.7000000000003, "end": 2491.46, "text": " is now available on Windows Phone. It came out I believe or less this past summer. I" }, { "start": 2491.46, "end": 2498.46, "text": " believe if I'm not mistaken that debuted with the iPhone 4 in 2010 on iOS, and it was" }, { "start": 2498.46, "end": 2505.46, "text": " either early 2013 or middle 2013 when it got to Windows Phone, which is like..." }, { "start": 2505.94, "end": 2508.18, "text": " Vlad what were you going to say about incentives?" }, { "start": 2508.18, "end": 2513.34, "text": " Well I'm about to say it." }, { "start": 2513.34, "end": 2514.34, "text": " To Chris' point..." }, { "start": 2514.34, "end": 2515.34, "text": " Wait, wait." }, { "start": 2515.34, "end": 2522.34, "text": " Okay, are we done here? To Chris' point, he was talking about incentives and why developers" }, { "start": 2522.34, "end": 2529.34, "text": " would keep the development part going. I think we all know, even though it hasn't been official," }, { "start": 2531.7400000000002, "end": 2538.38, "text": " that Instagram coming to Windows Phone was incentivized by big piles of cash from Microsoft." }, { "start": 2538.38, "end": 2545.3, "text": " That's pretty much a given. But that payment most likely related to just bring Instagram" }, { "start": 2545.3, "end": 2552.1800000000003, "text": " to Windows Phone. That sentence. From both perspectives, you can see the strategic advantage." }, { "start": 2552.18, "end": 2556.46, "text": " It's about the conversation on the bus where two guys are talking trash about, well I've" }, { "start": 2556.46, "end": 2563.2999999999997, "text": " got my Windows Phone and I've got my iPhone, but mine has the apps. They start comparing" }, { "start": 2563.2999999999997, "end": 2570.2999999999997, "text": " which apps, which platform has, etc. Because that's actually happening now in real conversations" }, { "start": 2570.3399999999997, "end": 2574.9199999999996, "text": " between real people. You can say I've got Instagram on Windows Phone. Even if it doesn't" }, { "start": 2574.9199999999996, "end": 2577.54, "text": " have proper feature parity, it's there." }, { "start": 2577.54, "end": 2583.74, "text": " So the strategic advantage for Microsoft is there. You can justify why Microsoft has pushed" }, { "start": 2583.74, "end": 2589.02, "text": " so hard to get the app onto its platform, but Chris identifies a really big issue, which" }, { "start": 2589.02, "end": 2595.1, "text": " is what happens after version 1.0. Because with the iPhone, what keeps happening is here's" }, { "start": 2595.1, "end": 2600.74, "text": " our iOS 7 update, and then two days later, here's our iOS 7 update with a few fixes." }, { "start": 2600.74, "end": 2606.54, "text": " Now that we've seen a few errors and whatever. It's just really instant and there's responsiveness" }, { "start": 2606.54, "end": 2610.86, "text": " and people working to evolve and improve the app." }, { "start": 2610.86, "end": 2617.86, "text": " And what I'm noticing happening is with Android becoming a stronger and more prevalent platform," }, { "start": 2618.7, "end": 2625.14, "text": " a lot of the developers are also using Android phones. So they have that kind of unprompted" }, { "start": 2625.14, "end": 2630.46, "text": " stimulus to keep developing their app on a different platform than iOS. Everybody knows" }, { "start": 2630.46, "end": 2634.06, "text": " that iOS is the one that you make the most money on. It's the one that makes the most" }, { "start": 2634.06, "end": 2640.18, "text": " sense to develop for the developer, but if you yourself use Android, like me, for example," }, { "start": 2640.18, "end": 2644.86, "text": " I can't use an iPhone anymore because I'm so addicted to the Android Gmail application." }, { "start": 2644.86, "end": 2651.86, "text": " So if you're stuck with Android for whatever reason and you're a developer of a... I'm" }, { "start": 2651.86, "end": 2655.02, "text": " stuck with Android for a very positive and a happy reason. I'm not complaining here." }, { "start": 2655.02, "end": 2660.62, "text": " I think it's, for me, for my uses, it's more useful than the iPhone because they also don't" }, { "start": 2660.62, "end": 2665.18, "text": " screw around with privacy-evading apps like QuizUp. Thank you for the challenge, by the" }, { "start": 2665.18, "end": 2671.98, "text": " way, Chris. But that being the case, that's a little advantage for people. If people are" }, { "start": 2671.98, "end": 2678.02, "text": " using your operating system, it encourages them to keep developing for it and developing" }, { "start": 2678.02, "end": 2685.02, "text": " promptly for it. So it kind of comes down to is Windows Phone an attractive operating" }, { "start": 2685.1, "end": 2689.06, "text": " system for people to use? It just comes back to the basics there." }, { "start": 2689.06, "end": 2694.82, "text": " Yeah, I mean, really, this is the same old story that we've had since Windows Phone came" }, { "start": 2694.82, "end": 2701.82, "text": " out. It does seem like they are getting more and more of the apps that we've been looking" }, { "start": 2703.02, "end": 2706.94, "text": " for in addition to Instagram. Vine is now available. The same day that Instagram came" }, { "start": 2706.94, "end": 2713.94, "text": " out, Waze came out, which I'm not sure why you'd use Waze, but it's out. And there are" }, { "start": 2713.94, "end": 2719.3, "text": " other big-name apps that have come along. They now have Pandora and PayPal and all these" }, { "start": 2719.3, "end": 2723.44, "text": " other apps that we're missing for a long time." }, { "start": 2723.44, "end": 2730.44, "text": " To be clear, Waze is like the Netflix of navigation apps. Their sole goal is to be on every platform" }, { "start": 2730.78, "end": 2737.26, "text": " imaginable. So it's like, to an extent, I'm like, when I hear that Waze comes to Windows" }, { "start": 2737.26, "end": 2740.58, "text": " Phone, I don't think that's actually indicative of any trend." }, { "start": 2740.58, "end": 2744.62, "text": " Well the only thing that's really interesting about Waze coming to Windows Phone, to me" }, { "start": 2744.62, "end": 2750.98, "text": " at least, is the fact that Waze is now owned by Google, and Google has pretty much said" }, { "start": 2750.98, "end": 2754.14, "text": " that we're not really developing for Windows Phone until it gets more popular." }, { "start": 2754.14, "end": 2754.62, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 2754.62, "end": 2760.5, "text": " Well part of Waze's whole deal is just acquiring massive quantities of traffic data. So I mean," }, { "start": 2760.5, "end": 2765.2999999999997, "text": " maybe that's Google's play, or Waze's play. It's like, well, you know, maybe nobody will" }, { "start": 2765.2999999999997, "end": 2770.54, "text": " use it, but we'll still be able to suck down a bunch of traffic and public transit data." }, { "start": 2770.54, "end": 2777.54, "text": " Well, I talked to Tom a little bit about that, and his theory, and I think this is probably" }, { "start": 2777.82, "end": 2782.18, "text": " a reasonable one, is that they had Windows Phone on their roadmap prior to the Google" }, { "start": 2782.18, "end": 2788.66, "text": " acquisition. And Google, as we've seen from Motorola, has a habit of running some of its" }, { "start": 2788.66, "end": 2792.06, "text": " acquisitions as independent companies anyway. I don't know if that's the case with Waze" }, { "start": 2792.06, "end": 2799.06, "text": " or not, but they do still identify as Waze, not as Google, I think." }, { "start": 2799.06, "end": 2800.06, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2800.06, "end": 2804.7799999999997, "text": " So here is one other question I actually have about Windows Phone. Now that the Xbox One" }, { "start": 2804.7799999999997, "end": 2811.7799999999997, "text": " has happened, first of all, any of you guys buying, have you obtained an Xbox One yet?" }, { "start": 2812.38, "end": 2813.38, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 2813.38, "end": 2814.38, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 2814.38, "end": 2815.38, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 2815.38, "end": 2816.38, "text": " Chris." }, { "start": 2816.38, "end": 2823.38, "text": " Do you care about the synergies that things like Xbox Smart Glass and whatever other company" }, { "start": 2825.74, "end": 2828.42, "text": " apps Microsoft does, do you care about those things?" }, { "start": 2828.42, "end": 2835.42, "text": " I use Smart Glass quite a bit, but only because the Xbox One's control, like AV control environment" }, { "start": 2840.7400000000002, "end": 2846.54, "text": " slash ecosystem is just an enormous bag of hurt, as Neelai did a pretty good job of laying" }, { "start": 2846.54, "end": 2853.54, "text": " out in his report a few weeks ago. So having Smart Glass as a tool to help control that" }, { "start": 2854.58, "end": 2856.86, "text": " is a good thing." }, { "start": 2856.86, "end": 2859.38, "text": " But what are you using it on, Chris?" }, { "start": 2859.38, "end": 2860.78, "text": " Oh, on my iPhone." }, { "start": 2860.78, "end": 2866.2000000000003, "text": " Yeah, so the thing is like there's no reason for you to buy a Windows Phone in order to" }, { "start": 2866.2000000000003, "end": 2873.2000000000003, "text": " use your Xbox. Do you gain anything by having Microsoft's own phone platform talking to" }, { "start": 2873.6200000000003, "end": 2876.94, "text": " Microsoft's gaming system? And I think the answer is going to be no, because Microsoft" }, { "start": 2876.94, "end": 2880.94, "text": " was wise enough to realize that we need to release this app on Android and iOS because" }, { "start": 2880.94, "end": 2882.1800000000003, "text": " that's where the users are." }, { "start": 2882.18, "end": 2887.22, "text": " Right, it's funny, going all the way back to Windows Phone 7, Microsoft had made such" }, { "start": 2887.22, "end": 2893.98, "text": " big, big promises about Xbox Live integration and none of that really materialized, right?" }, { "start": 2893.98, "end": 2900.98, "text": " One thing has. There's a Halo game on Windows Phone and you can't get that on Android or" }, { "start": 2901.4199999999996, "end": 2904.1, "text": " iOS. So if you really want to play Halo." }, { "start": 2904.1, "end": 2911.1, "text": " Yeah, and you can see your avatar and your gamer points and all that nonsense, but it's" }, { "start": 2911.1, "end": 2915.86, "text": " nothing like, I mean if Microsoft had been really smart in that regard, they would have" }, { "start": 2915.86, "end": 2920.44, "text": " done something similar to what Sony is doing with Vita and Remote Play. And they never" }, { "start": 2920.44, "end": 2921.2, "text": " did that." }, { "start": 2921.2, "end": 2925.62, "text": " What's really interesting to me is like this kind of goes to Microsoft's play on all of" }, { "start": 2925.62, "end": 2930.2599999999998, "text": " its platforms. They all look very similar now, even the Xbox dashboard looks very much" }, { "start": 2930.2599999999998, "end": 2934.7, "text": " like Windows 8, which looks very much like Windows Phone 8. But the Xbox dashboard doesn't" }, { "start": 2934.7, "end": 2939.86, "text": " really talk to Windows 8 and Windows 8 doesn't talk to Windows Phone 8. And it's like they" }, { "start": 2939.86, "end": 2943.5, "text": " have all of these products that look very similar and maybe function very similarly," }, { "start": 2943.5, "end": 2948.78, "text": " but there's no benefit to you to have a Windows Phone 8 and a Windows 8 tablet at the same" }, { "start": 2948.78, "end": 2954.42, "text": " time. Like you can't share your apps, your data might be shared through the cloud, but" }, { "start": 2954.42, "end": 2958.02, "text": " if I'm storing stuff in SkyDrive, it can also access SkyDrive on my Mac and I can access" }, { "start": 2958.02, "end": 2964.78, "text": " SkyDrive on an iPad and etc. etc. So it's like, there seems like there's some sort of opportunities" }, { "start": 2964.78, "end": 2967.9, "text": " that are not being taken advantage of, at least not yet." }, { "start": 2967.9, "end": 2974.9, "text": " Well, talking about incentives, like if Microsoft can't incentivize developers on a massive" }, { "start": 2975.2200000000003, "end": 2982.2200000000003, "text": " scale to develop apps for their platform, perhaps they can incentivize consumers with" }, { "start": 2982.5, "end": 2985.94, "text": " tighter integration between their three platforms." }, { "start": 2985.94, "end": 2991.42, "text": " Exactly. I mean, if I'm playing, like if I'm doing something and I just want to like" }, { "start": 2991.42, "end": 2998.02, "text": " share data between my Windows 8 tablet and my Windows Phone 8 or you know, share an app" }, { "start": 2998.02, "end": 3001.98, "text": " across them or something like that, that kind of makes sense, but it's not happening. Not" }, { "start": 3001.98, "end": 3003.42, "text": " now at least." }, { "start": 3003.42, "end": 3009.54, "text": " Well, let's just point out the fact that nobody is really doing that beautiful integration" }, { "start": 3009.54, "end": 3010.94, "text": " across devices." }, { "start": 3010.94, "end": 3017.94, "text": " Well the iPad and the iPhone, I can buy an app on my iPad and I can use it on my iPhone" }, { "start": 3018.02, "end": 3019.82, "text": " if it's a universal app and vice versa." }, { "start": 3019.82, "end": 3023.98, "text": " But it's incomplete. It's incomplete is what I'm saying. So yeah, there are some strengths," }, { "start": 3023.98, "end": 3030.98, "text": " but for example, if you go and try to rely on iCloud, you quickly realize that Google" }, { "start": 3031.86, "end": 3035.7000000000003, "text": " services are so much superior. What are you talking about?" }, { "start": 3035.7000000000003, "end": 3041.34, "text": " Okay, and the other thing is, I work for iCloud, it's just a joke. It's like some kid trying" }, { "start": 3041.34, "end": 3048.34, "text": " to copy Google Docs. It's terrible. It's so far from being useful. But yeah, I mean, in" }, { "start": 3050.9, "end": 3056.54, "text": " my experience, again, I find the most useful implementation to be Google's. So I can mess" }, { "start": 3056.54, "end": 3063.06, "text": " around with some notes on my phone, on Google Drive and then jump onto my Chrome on my desktop" }, { "start": 3063.06, "end": 3069.2200000000003, "text": " and the notes are there and things like that. But it's still really rudimentary. It's still" }, { "start": 3069.22, "end": 3075.58, "text": " a sort of thing where you feel like you're just getting some basic sync between your" }, { "start": 3075.58, "end": 3081.8999999999996, "text": " devices and that's it. Whereas I think the vision that Chris had as well with the initial" }, { "start": 3081.8999999999996, "end": 3086.3799999999997, "text": " introduction of Windows Phone was something like, perfect example for me is the Xbox Live" }, { "start": 3086.3799999999997, "end": 3093.24, "text": " Arcade. So those are lighter games, simpler games, ones that don't require as much storage." }, { "start": 3093.24, "end": 3098.8999999999996, "text": " If you could just bring that onto the phone and have games like Braid and whatever just" }, { "start": 3098.9, "end": 3104.4, "text": " accessible on your phone, it opens up so many more possibilities. And it frustrates me as" }, { "start": 3104.4, "end": 3110.52, "text": " well when guys at Microsoft promise things like, well, we now have DirectX compatibility" }, { "start": 3110.52, "end": 3117.2200000000003, "text": " in Windows Phone 8. And I keep waiting, okay, we have DirectX compatibility, where are the" }, { "start": 3117.2200000000003, "end": 3121.54, "text": " more advanced games? Where is this awesomeness that I can't get on the other platforms?" }, { "start": 3121.54, "end": 3123.86, "text": " And that's what keeps missing." }, { "start": 3123.86, "end": 3129.02, "text": " I mean that's the story of every Build Conference for the last couple of years. I mean, you" }, { "start": 3129.02, "end": 3134.5, "text": " guys remember that demonstration where they showed a game being played on a Windows 8" }, { "start": 3134.5, "end": 3139.52, "text": " machine at the initial Windows 8 Build Conference and then kind of seamlessly transitioning" }, { "start": 3139.52, "end": 3146.1200000000003, "text": " over to continuing the game on the Subway. But those kind of features never really materialized" }, { "start": 3146.1200000000003, "end": 3149.1600000000003, "text": " and we're still waiting for them." }, { "start": 3149.16, "end": 3155.6, "text": " Now Chris, let me ask you this. Have you tried using the Xbox One SkyDrive integration for" }, { "start": 3155.6, "end": 3157.6, "text": " game streaming?" }, { "start": 3157.6, "end": 3159.94, "text": " No." }, { "start": 3159.94, "end": 3167.94, "text": " So from what I understand, you can use the five minute DVR feature of the Xbox One to" }, { "start": 3167.94, "end": 3174.3199999999997, "text": " record five minutes of gameplay. And then I think that you can have that automatically" }, { "start": 3174.3199999999997, "end": 3178.8199999999997, "text": " deposit that five minutes into SkyDrive and I think there's pretty tight integration" }, { "start": 3178.82, "end": 3187.26, "text": " with Facebook so you can very seamlessly post those gameplay footage directly onto Facebook." }, { "start": 3187.26, "end": 3192.82, "text": " So these little integrations are starting to make their way, but I think what we're" }, { "start": 3192.82, "end": 3197.54, "text": " all realizing at this point is that it's really hard. And that's why no one is really doing" }, { "start": 3197.54, "end": 3200.5800000000004, "text": " it, but Microsoft is at least trying." }, { "start": 3200.58, "end": 3213.9, "text": " Well I was just going to say I use, so the Xbox One is a built in video sharing service" }, { "start": 3213.9, "end": 3220.04, "text": " called Upload. And you can choose, like when you save a video clip, you can choose to save" }, { "start": 3220.04, "end": 3227.18, "text": " it to upload or to SkyDrive. And I don't think I've ever opened SkyDrive in my life, at least" }, { "start": 3227.18, "end": 3231.8199999999997, "text": " not intentionally. So I'm using the Upload service." }, { "start": 3231.8199999999997, "end": 3234.54, "text": " SkyDrive is good. Don't hate SkyDrive." }, { "start": 3234.54, "end": 3238.3799999999997, "text": " Yeah, SkyDrive is actually one of the better cloud backup services." }, { "start": 3238.3799999999997, "end": 3243.7, "text": " So if you're listening to this podcast like two months from now, maybe in 2014 or some" }, { "start": 3243.7, "end": 3250.02, "text": " point, we'll probably be talking about a new service, whatever the new name is, right?" }, { "start": 3250.02, "end": 3251.5, "text": " Because they renamed it SkyDrive." }, { "start": 3251.5, "end": 3254.02, "text": " Oh, right, right." }, { "start": 3254.02, "end": 3258.66, "text": " But yeah, just to add to the point, Microsoft isn't alone in capturing these gameplay footage" }, { "start": 3258.66, "end": 3265.06, "text": " things. Sony did a whole extra hardware layout so we can do game recording in the PS4, which" }, { "start": 3265.06, "end": 3266.22, "text": " means..." }, { "start": 3266.22, "end": 3272.46, "text": " I am totally not a gamer, and I'm like a self-proclaimed not a gamer. But there's just like, I just" }, { "start": 3272.46, "end": 3278.62, "text": " cannot grasp the appeal of watching somebody else's recorded gameplay footage. Like I know" }, { "start": 3278.62, "end": 3282.2599999999998, "text": " it's huge and there's like millions of people that use this Twitch service and things like" }, { "start": 3282.26, "end": 3287.86, "text": " that. But I'm like, why would I want to watch some guy running around through whatever game" }, { "start": 3287.86, "end": 3288.86, "text": " it is?" }, { "start": 3288.86, "end": 3295.7000000000003, "text": " But there's reasons. There's reasons, particularly for like guides if you're struggling with" }, { "start": 3295.7000000000003, "end": 3298.94, "text": " overcoming a particular boss fight or whatever else." }, { "start": 3298.94, "end": 3303.46, "text": " And like hyper competitive gaming. Like StarCraft is huge because people want to see other people's" }, { "start": 3303.46, "end": 3305.46, "text": " strategies and it's like a big deal." }, { "start": 3305.46, "end": 3313.3, "text": " Well, I uploaded a sweet video of me doing donuts in a 1991 GMC Typhoon. Or Cyclone," }, { "start": 3313.3, "end": 3317.86, "text": " excuse me. So I don't know what you guys are talking about. Like why people wouldn't" }, { "start": 3317.86, "end": 3321.94, "text": " want to see that, I don't know. That's 15 seconds of your life well spent." }, { "start": 3321.94, "end": 3327.58, "text": " But that's the thing. I think I'm totally involved with Dan. I am the opposite of Dan" }, { "start": 3327.58, "end": 3335.42, "text": " insofar as games have done more for my upbringing than proper education has. But I don't, I" }, { "start": 3335.42, "end": 3340.14, "text": " don't get the appeal of particularly like streaming your gaming session and like not" }, { "start": 3340.14, "end": 3345.14, "text": " doing something clearly focused such as a guide or such as Chris is showing off or whatever" }, { "start": 3345.14, "end": 3346.14, "text": " else." }, { "start": 3346.14, "end": 3357.2200000000003, "text": " I've already watched Tom Warren successfully defend his goal in FIFA 14. So I mean, like" }, { "start": 3357.2200000000003, "end": 3363.58, "text": " I'm all about it. Every time I see one of my friends upload a video, I'm all up on it." }, { "start": 3363.58, "end": 3365.3, "text": " I love it." }, { "start": 3365.3, "end": 3371.38, "text": " It's just so wrong. But also to mention, on the PC, NVIDIA has this shadow play feature" }, { "start": 3371.38, "end": 3376.94, "text": " which a lot of people are quite enthusiastic about which pretty much does the same thing." }, { "start": 3376.94, "end": 3383.26, "text": " I'm just trying to convey the idea that everybody seems to be getting on board with it. And" }, { "start": 3383.26, "end": 3388.6200000000003, "text": " Dan and I completely don't get it. Chris is being a troll right now. But I mean, particularly" }, { "start": 3388.6200000000003, "end": 3394.5800000000004, "text": " with games, if you're going to show off video of it, you're really just showing off your" }, { "start": 3394.58, "end": 3400.18, "text": " experience of the same thing that other people are most likely going to experience as well." }, { "start": 3400.18, "end": 3405.54, "text": " It's kind of like bringing it back to…" }, { "start": 3405.54, "end": 3410.2599999999998, "text": " But it's no different than wanting to watch a replay of like a really good, you know," }, { "start": 3410.2599999999998, "end": 3416.9, "text": " touchdown in a football game. Like there are epic moments in games that are, that have" }, { "start": 3416.9, "end": 3425.58, "text": " entertainment value. Like a good overtake in a heated fours a match. I'll watch that." }, { "start": 3425.58, "end": 3431.52, "text": " Yeah, that is valid. That's valid. I'm not going to argue with that. I guess the" }, { "start": 3431.52, "end": 3435.34, "text": " thing is with games, most of the time you don't have these highlight things. So I" }, { "start": 3435.34, "end": 3441.38, "text": " guess if you're being selective and just uploading the particularly juicy bits, then" }, { "start": 3441.38, "end": 3447.86, "text": " I can get behind that. But also, since we're on this topic, very briefly, I would just" }, { "start": 3447.86, "end": 3456.1400000000003, "text": " like to point out this entire hoopla around the new consoles is completely premature." }, { "start": 3456.1400000000003, "end": 3460.86, "text": " As far as I'm concerned, nobody should care until Titanfall shows up on the Xbox One and" }, { "start": 3460.86, "end": 3466.94, "text": " just kind of blows us all away. These consoles don't have that amazing game which is going" }, { "start": 3466.94, "end": 3473.5, "text": " to keep you locked in next to your TV throughout the holiday season, which I think is, you" }, { "start": 3473.5, "end": 3478.34, "text": " know, the hallmark of a good console launch. And if you want the absolute prettiest and" }, { "start": 3478.34, "end": 3485.58, "text": " best graphics, you still have to go to the PC and play Battlefield 4, which looks stunning." }, { "start": 3485.58, "end": 3490, "text": " Get a good graphics card, play Battlefield 4 on ultra settings, it will make you forget" }, { "start": 3490, "end": 3496.26, "text": " about the consoles, seriously. But there's also the other provisional slash caveat that" }, { "start": 3496.26, "end": 3505.2200000000003, "text": " Battlefield 4, its gameplay is actually like stupid, horribly, horribly stupid. I haven't" }, { "start": 3505.2200000000003, "end": 3511.1400000000003, "text": " got into the multiplayer, but the single player missions are just lame. It's exactly like" }, { "start": 3511.1400000000003, "end": 3517.5800000000004, "text": " the stunning supermodel stereotype. Amazing to look at, completely dumb and hollow on" }, { "start": 3517.5800000000004, "end": 3522.6800000000003, "text": " the inside. I just need to get that on my chest." }, { "start": 3522.68, "end": 3531.18, "text": " So kind of going back to this integration and consumer incentivizing thing really quick," }, { "start": 3531.18, "end": 3542.1, "text": " Chris have you, could you watch your friends like DVR or live streamed footage on SmartGlass?" }, { "start": 3542.1, "end": 3548.02, "text": " On SmartGlass I don't think so, but there are, you know like third party apps can integrate" }, { "start": 3548.02, "end": 3558.46, "text": " with SmartGlass, I think. And the Xbox One ships with Twitch, so there might be some" }, { "start": 3558.46, "end": 3561.7, "text": " integration point there, I don't know, I don't use Twitch and I don't have Twitch installed" }, { "start": 3561.7, "end": 3565.7, "text": " on the Xbox, but it's possible." }, { "start": 3565.7, "end": 3573.08, "text": " Okay, well I'm just trying to figure out which is, like who has the tighter app integration," }, { "start": 3573.08, "end": 3580.3199999999997, "text": " because the PlayStation app just came out the other day and it will allow you to throw" }, { "start": 3580.3199999999997, "end": 3589.22, "text": " to Ustream, but aside from that, like aside from the SmartGlass app, I'm really at a" }, { "start": 3589.22, "end": 3597.8199999999997, "text": " loss to kind of understand who is integrating better, because Microsoft has the advantage" }, { "start": 3597.82, "end": 3605.5800000000004, "text": " I would think, because the design language between Windows Phone and the Xbox UI and" }, { "start": 3605.5800000000004, "end": 3612.6600000000003, "text": " the Windows 8 UI is very contiguous, it feels very cohesive, and Sony is kind of trying" }, { "start": 3612.6600000000003, "end": 3620.46, "text": " to deal with their own closed ecosystem, but also Android, but I mean the PlayStation app" }, { "start": 3620.46, "end": 3626.3, "text": " will let you see what your friends are playing and it will let you buy games right from the" }, { "start": 3626.3, "end": 3627.3, "text": " app." }, { "start": 3627.3, "end": 3634.6600000000003, "text": " I agree with you that there's design synergy between the Xbox One and Windows 8 and Windows" }, { "start": 3634.6600000000003, "end": 3638.86, "text": " Phone, but I don't think that any human being on the planet with an Xbox One is saying," }, { "start": 3638.86, "end": 3646.6600000000003, "text": " ooh, I like this UI, I'm going to go buy a Windows Phone now. That's not happening." }, { "start": 3646.6600000000003, "end": 3652.7000000000003, "text": " I just need to call out Evan on his use of contiguous, it was misused." }, { "start": 3652.7000000000003, "end": 3653.7000000000003, "text": " I apologize." }, { "start": 3653.7000000000003, "end": 3656.94, "text": " You've been docked one point." }, { "start": 3656.94, "end": 3661.46, "text": " So if you guys don't mind, let's move on." }, { "start": 3661.46, "end": 3663.7400000000002, "text": " I've got a question." }, { "start": 3663.7400000000002, "end": 3667.3, "text": " As I fall on my face through this transition." }, { "start": 3667.3, "end": 3673.5, "text": " This is on topic. Let me just make sure this isn't an embargo. I got an email from Best Buy," }, { "start": 3673.5, "end": 3678.78, "text": " they've got two special offers launching tomorrow. It's an embargo or whatever. It's not like" }, { "start": 3678.78, "end": 3684.18, "text": " anybody listens to this podcast. No, it's not. Okay, they've got a free Samsung Galaxy" }, { "start": 3684.18, "end": 3689.5, "text": " S4 deal with a two year activation of Best Buy and Best Buy mobile specials starting" }, { "start": 3689.5, "end": 3694.2599999999998, "text": " Wednesday through Saturday. Do you guys think the Galaxy S4 is worth buying at this point?" }, { "start": 3694.2599999999998, "end": 3695.2599999999998, "text": " I'm curious." }, { "start": 3695.2599999999998, "end": 3697.58, "text": " What was the deal? I wasn't listening." }, { "start": 3697.58, "end": 3701.74, "text": " It's a free Galaxy S4 with a two year contract." }, { "start": 3701.74, "end": 3705.4199999999996, "text": " That's a better deal than pretty much any of the carriers are offering on the Galaxy" }, { "start": 3705.4199999999996, "end": 3706.4199999999996, "text": " S4." }, { "start": 3706.4199999999996, "end": 3709.4199999999996, "text": " Which carrier is this?" }, { "start": 3709.42, "end": 3715.38, "text": " This is through Best Buy. So whatever carrier Best Buy offers. I think the Galaxy S4 is" }, { "start": 3715.38, "end": 3721.46, "text": " very much like the iPhone in that Samsung will release it in June or whatever. It's" }, { "start": 3721.46, "end": 3726.02, "text": " going to be a competitive device through to almost right up until the next June when the" }, { "start": 3726.02, "end": 3732.78, "text": " next model comes out. If you look at the actual specifications of it, it's got a powerful" }, { "start": 3732.78, "end": 3736.38, "text": " processor, really high res screen, a good camera and everything like that. So if you" }, { "start": 3736.38, "end": 3741.9, "text": " liked the Galaxy S4 six months ago, there's no reason not to like it now." }, { "start": 3741.9, "end": 3745.62, "text": " You know what else it has? Removable storage." }, { "start": 3745.62, "end": 3749.98, "text": " The Galaxy S5 is going to be curved, isn't it?" }, { "start": 3749.98, "end": 3756.1800000000003, "text": " No. Actually, on that topic, there has been a couple of stories coming out of Korea saying" }, { "start": 3756.1800000000003, "end": 3764.54, "text": " that the first generation of flexible screen devices are flopping. Now the reason we didn't" }, { "start": 3764.54, "end": 3768.66, "text": " cover that is because they seem to be very flaky in terms of sourcing. It's anonymous" }, { "start": 3768.66, "end": 3772.58, "text": " sources and nobody sounds particularly confident about the numbers." }, { "start": 3772.58, "end": 3776.02, "text": " How long have they been out?" }, { "start": 3776.02, "end": 3779.06, "text": " Well, it's been a month, over a month." }, { "start": 3779.06, "end": 3783.34, "text": " But they're being sold in really limited quantities, right? It's not like it's available all over" }, { "start": 3783.34, "end": 3788.94, "text": " the world. They're being sold just in Korea, I think, right? And they're being sold alongside" }, { "start": 3788.94, "end": 3794.3, "text": " their flat equivalents which are presumably much cheaper in store." }, { "start": 3794.3, "end": 3800.86, "text": " It's possible. I'm just saying, again, with the providers I've mentioned, that at least" }, { "start": 3800.86, "end": 3805.1800000000003, "text": " the earliest feedback we've heard about them hasn't been that positive. Which, as far as" }, { "start": 3805.1800000000003, "end": 3809.5, "text": " you're concerned, Chris, is a positive because it would probably put them off. I mean, the" }, { "start": 3809.5, "end": 3813.9, "text": " Galaxy S5, there's no chance of it to curve because they just can't do that at mass production" }, { "start": 3813.9, "end": 3817.42, "text": " levels. Particularly the mass production levels you need." }, { "start": 3817.42, "end": 3823.0600000000004, "text": " Evan, record the last 10 seconds of this podcast. I want to put that in Vlad's face" }, { "start": 3823.06, "end": 3825.18, "text": " when the Galaxy S5 is curved." }, { "start": 3825.18, "end": 3826.18, "text": " No problem. We'll have a breakout." }, { "start": 3826.18, "end": 3827.18, "text": " All right, thanks." }, { "start": 3827.18, "end": 3834.94, "text": " Awesome. But actually, we can turn this into a pretty nice transition here, into a pretty" }, { "start": 3834.94, "end": 3839.74, "text": " nice segue, provided nobody interrupts me. Which is to say that the Google Play edition" }, { "start": 3839.74, "end": 3846.66, "text": " of the Galaxy S4 just started getting the 4.4 kick-add update, as has the HC1, which" }, { "start": 3846.66, "end": 3847.66, "text": " is a credit to everybody involved." }, { "start": 3847.66, "end": 3851.34, "text": " Yeah, a whole bunch of phones. In the past week, a whole bunch of phones got it. The" }, { "start": 3851.34, "end": 3857.54, "text": " Nexus 4, finally, the rollout started for that. I've had it on my Nexus 4 for, I don't" }, { "start": 3857.54, "end": 3865.02, "text": " know, a week or so. The Moto Xs, right now, it's available from Verizon, T-Mobile, and" }, { "start": 3865.02, "end": 3872.6600000000003, "text": " AT&T Moto Xs. It's just leaving Sprint out of the equation for there. Then it just started" }, { "start": 3872.6600000000003, "end": 3878.6200000000003, "text": " yesterday, I believe, the Google Play edition, HC1 and Galaxy S4 started getting entered" }, { "start": 3878.62, "end": 3884.42, "text": " for 4.4. So, you know, it's good to see it's making its way around. I doubt we're gonna" }, { "start": 3884.42, "end": 3891.2599999999998, "text": " hear any more about Android 4.4 kick-add rollouts for a while, because at this point, it's the" }, { "start": 3891.2599999999998, "end": 3896.8199999999997, "text": " carrier or the manufacturer customized versions that are the majority of things left. So that's" }, { "start": 3896.8199999999997, "end": 3898.2999999999997, "text": " gonna be a while before those get it." }, { "start": 3898.2999999999997, "end": 3899.2999999999997, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3899.2999999999997, "end": 3902.18, "text": " I still don't have it on my One, either, so I'm pissed." }, { "start": 3902.18, "end": 3910.74, "text": " Here's the thing, my sincerest hope about Android 4.4 is that come CES in January, nobody" }, { "start": 3910.74, "end": 3915.3799999999997, "text": " comes out with a phone, with an Android phone that doesn't have it." }, { "start": 3915.3799999999997, "end": 3919.7799999999997, "text": " Oh, my God, you are so high. They are gonna be all having Android 4.3 at the best." }, { "start": 3919.7799999999997, "end": 3920.7799999999997, "text": " Yeah, that's definitely happening." }, { "start": 3920.7799999999997, "end": 3924.3399999999997, "text": " Yeah. Dude, I bet you, we're at CES, we're gonna see some Chinese manufacturer release" }, { "start": 3924.3399999999997, "end": 3931.54, "text": " a phone with Android 4.1. I guarantee it. But no, there are not gonna be any major phone" }, { "start": 3931.54, "end": 3936.06, "text": " announcements at CES. There are, but the Chinese manufacturers do announce things." }, { "start": 3936.06, "end": 3939.5, "text": " Ah, Chris, see, now, Evan, keep recording." }, { "start": 3939.5, "end": 3940.5, "text": " Oh, yeah." }, { "start": 3940.5, "end": 3943.9, "text": " Keep recording, because we're gonna need to throw this back in Chris' face." }, { "start": 3943.9, "end": 3946.98, "text": " You know what's gonna happen is, like, Sony is going to announce a phone, like it did" }, { "start": 3946.98, "end": 3947.98, "text": " last year." }, { "start": 3947.98, "end": 3948.98, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 3948.98, "end": 3951.18, "text": " And Sony is going to announce the phone with Android 4.2." }, { "start": 3951.18, "end": 3952.66, "text": " Oh, God, I can't." }, { "start": 3952.66, "end": 3959.3, "text": " If Chris were only to qualify his statement to say there will not be a new phone at CES" }, { "start": 3959.3, "end": 3963.94, "text": " that launches or is available to buy before April, then it would be fine." }, { "start": 3963.94, "end": 3970.6600000000003, "text": " But wait, what does Sony have in the pipeline right now? They have a fresh megaphone and" }, { "start": 3970.6600000000003, "end": 3971.6600000000003, "text": " they have a fresh…" }, { "start": 3971.6600000000003, "end": 3982.2400000000002, "text": " Okay, so the freshest Sony rumors right now, the freshest Sony rumors out in the Sony beat" }, { "start": 3982.24, "end": 3992.7799999999997, "text": " is a refreshed Xperia Z1, either called the Xperia Z2 or possibly the Z1S that people" }, { "start": 3992.7799999999997, "end": 3998.3399999999997, "text": " thought was the Z1 Mini. I guess that's possible. People are kind of not sure because" }, { "start": 3998.3399999999997, "end": 4003.7, "text": " this is all rumory and shady and that sort of thing. And then there's also the international" }, { "start": 4003.7, "end": 4009.54, "text": " Xperia Z1 Mini, which, please, I need one so bad." }, { "start": 4009.54, "end": 4013.54, "text": " So regardless of what the rumors say, Sony…" }, { "start": 4013.54, "end": 4018.62, "text": " Well, I mean, best phone in the world right now until they come out with one that's" }, { "start": 4018.62, "end": 4019.86, "text": " the size for a human hand." }, { "start": 4019.86, "end": 4023.1, "text": " Well, it exists. They've announced it for Japan, the Mini version." }, { "start": 4023.1, "end": 4028.74, "text": " Yeah, well, it's a Docomo exclusive. There's no guarantee that the international one will" }, { "start": 4028.74, "end": 4029.74, "text": " ever come out." }, { "start": 4029.74, "end": 4033.14, "text": " So just man up and move to Japan. It's cool." }, { "start": 4033.14, "end": 4037.62, "text": " Hey, so while we're deep into Sony, I'm just going to use this and steamroll this" }, { "start": 4037.62, "end": 4044.3399999999997, "text": " transition right into the Sony SmartWatch 2, which I reviewed and it went up today." }, { "start": 4044.3399999999997, "end": 4050.58, "text": " And if you haven't read it, go read it. And I'm just going to sum this up by saying" }, { "start": 4050.58, "end": 4057.18, "text": " that it breaks my heart because the SmartWatch 2 is, in my opinion at least, the best looking" }, { "start": 4057.18, "end": 4062.98, "text": " smartwatch we've seen, the one that's the least embarrassing to wear. But its software" }, { "start": 4062.98, "end": 4069.5, "text": " is so clunky and so difficult to use that it is not worth it. And that's…it's sad." }, { "start": 4069.5, "end": 4075.1, "text": " It's better than the SmartWatch 1 by leaps and bounds, but it is not…I don't even" }, { "start": 4075.1, "end": 4082.34, "text": " like it as much usability wise as a Pebble and certainly not where I would hope that" }, { "start": 4082.34, "end": 4086.22, "text": " a new smartwatch would be at this point." }, { "start": 4086.22, "end": 4091.38, "text": " No one understands what a smartwatch should be except me. I'm literally the only human" }, { "start": 4091.38, "end": 4093.34, "text": " being on the planet." }, { "start": 4093.34, "end": 4100.66, "text": " This is where smartwatches are. Smartwatches are the…we're in the 2005 smartphone world" }, { "start": 4100.66, "end": 4106.9800000000005, "text": " of smartwatches. We're in the 2001 tablet world of tablets. And we're still a couple" }, { "start": 4106.9800000000005, "end": 4112.6, "text": " years away until somebody really figures this out and there's always all this demand and" }, { "start": 4112.6, "end": 4116.22, "text": " all this interest and all this intrigue and nobody seems to get it right and then somebody's" }, { "start": 4116.22, "end": 4120.46, "text": " going to figure it out and there's going to be this iPhone moment and then it's going" }, { "start": 4120.46, "end": 4127.7, "text": " to be great and then everybody will want one. But we're not there yet and all of the things" }, { "start": 4127.7, "end": 4131.22, "text": " that have been tried are really not it." }, { "start": 4131.22, "end": 4135.62, "text": " But I'm convinced that's not…I see where you're going with that. I'm not convinced" }, { "start": 4135.62, "end": 4142.14, "text": " it's a perfect analogy because I think what makes wearables shine is when they are…I" }, { "start": 4142.14, "end": 4146.9, "text": " mean there are things you're literally wearing like clothes and like jewelry. They need to" }, { "start": 4146.9, "end": 4153.42, "text": " be personalized to the person that's wearing them. That's why glass looks…well glass" }, { "start": 4153.42, "end": 4158.7, "text": " looks stupid on anybody but it isn't personalized to the person that's wearing it. There's" }, { "start": 4158.7, "end": 4160.74, "text": " been talk about integrating it with prescriptions." }, { "start": 4160.74, "end": 4165.62, "text": " That's part of figuring it out. I mean maybe that's what needs to be figured out to make" }, { "start": 4165.62, "end": 4169.179999999999, "text": " these things successful but they also need to figure out usability and functionality" }, { "start": 4169.179999999999, "end": 4174.0199999999995, "text": " and features that aren't there yet." }, { "start": 4174.02, "end": 4177.02, "text": " So I think…and battery life." }, { "start": 4177.02, "end": 4180.120000000001, "text": " Yeah and battery life. I was going to say with the SmartWatch 2, Sony did do a number" }, { "start": 4180.120000000001, "end": 4185.14, "text": " of things right. In my test I easily got three to four days of battery life which is acceptable" }, { "start": 4185.14, "end": 4189.42, "text": " at this point for these things and it charges over micro USB which means it uses the same" }, { "start": 4189.42, "end": 4195.22, "text": " charging cable as my phone which is such a stupid thing that I have to bring it up. But" }, { "start": 4195.22, "end": 4199.580000000001, "text": " no other smart watch does that so…or none other that I've used at least. So it's" }, { "start": 4199.58, "end": 4205.14, "text": " kind of a major convenience that I like that Sony did but I can't stand using the software." }, { "start": 4205.14, "end": 4210.82, "text": " Here is my contribution and it particularly goes to the software side. The Sony SmartWatch" }, { "start": 4210.82, "end": 4217.86, "text": " 2 is probably the saddest out of the box experience that I've had with any gadget over the past" }, { "start": 4217.86, "end": 4222.5, "text": " however many years, two, three years, however long it's been. It's just I pulled it" }, { "start": 4222.5, "end": 4228.94, "text": " out first of all I got that metal strap on my review unit whereas Dan got the plastic" }, { "start": 4228.94, "end": 4230.0199999999995, "text": " one, the silicone one." }, { "start": 4230.0199999999995, "end": 4231.5, "text": " The rubber one yeah." }, { "start": 4231.5, "end": 4237.82, "text": " Rubber, okay. The metal strap I had no idea how to adjust it so it was way too big and" }, { "start": 4237.82, "end": 4243.78, "text": " it was cold and it was unpleasant. You know my gentle, gentle wrist just weren't ready" }, { "start": 4243.78, "end": 4249.0199999999995, "text": " for it. But aside from that, you turn it on, you start looking inside it for things to" }, { "start": 4249.0199999999995, "end": 4257.58, "text": " do and it's just so barren. It's like we have a wallpaper, we have a time app and" }, { "start": 4257.58, "end": 4265.0199999999995, "text": " a timer app and we have like four watch faces and that is it. You're on your own after that." }, { "start": 4265.0199999999995, "end": 4270.0599999999995, "text": " And then you have to go and search and dig and enhance the functionality and getting" }, { "start": 4270.0599999999995, "end": 4275.42, "text": " notifications set up and all this other baloney and nonsense which I just wasn't even interested" }, { "start": 4275.42, "end": 4280.86, "text": " in doing because I don't find it that attractive. I don't like the fact that you have the free" }, { "start": 4280.86, "end": 4284.7, "text": " Android buttons on it. There's absolutely no reason for them to be on there. It needs" }, { "start": 4284.7, "end": 4288.0599999999995, "text": " to be clean like Chris says, it needs to be something you would want to just wear for" }, { "start": 4288.0599999999995, "end": 4293.179999999999, "text": " the sake of keeping time. Like get that right first. Compete with the guys who are already" }, { "start": 4293.179999999999, "end": 4296.34, "text": " doing that correctly." }, { "start": 4296.34, "end": 4298.62, "text": " And then move on to trying to enhance things." }, { "start": 4298.62, "end": 4299.62, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 4299.62, "end": 4302.62, "text": " I do not, Chris." }, { "start": 4302.62, "end": 4304.82, "text": " Were you picking your nose Chris?" }, { "start": 4304.82, "end": 4305.82, "text": " What just happened?" }, { "start": 4305.82, "end": 4308.94, "text": " What you're not familiar with this gesture." }, { "start": 4308.94, "end": 4311.179999999999, "text": " That gesture means not it." }, { "start": 4311.179999999999, "end": 4312.179999999999, "text": " This means not it." }, { "start": 4312.18, "end": 4318.3, "text": " That's international nose goes territory." }, { "start": 4318.3, "end": 4324.1, "text": " None of you guys have played charades. This means yes that's it. You have it right. Like" }, { "start": 4324.1, "end": 4328.14, "text": " if you're playing charades and somebody has a word right in a phrase, you go like that" }, { "start": 4328.14, "end": 4336.3, "text": " meaning spot on. I've always just seen people point and be like no. If you're listening" }, { "start": 4336.3, "end": 4340.06, "text": " to the show right now and you're on Twitter will somebody please back me up that this" }, { "start": 4340.06, "end": 4341.54, "text": " means spot on." }, { "start": 4341.54, "end": 4342.54, "text": " Chris who plays charades?" }, { "start": 4342.54, "end": 4349.06, "text": " I trust Chris. I trust Chris and his Wikipedia sources. I'm down with that." }, { "start": 4349.06, "end": 4351.9, "text": " Listen citation needed on charades, come on." }, { "start": 4351.9, "end": 4357.62, "text": " And I'm very happy to just collect the endorsement from Chris. That makes my day. I'm basically" }, { "start": 4357.62, "end": 4358.62, "text": " –" }, { "start": 4358.62, "end": 4362.62, "text": " Vlad gets it. What can I say? Vlad gets it. Vlad you and I are going to kick start a proper" }, { "start": 4362.62, "end": 4363.62, "text": " smart watch." }, { "start": 4363.62, "end": 4368.18, "text": " Yeah, because that's what we need. Another smart watch project." }, { "start": 4368.18, "end": 4375.780000000001, "text": " I was actually thinking about that today and it's kind of depressing to me when you think" }, { "start": 4375.780000000001, "end": 4383.9800000000005, "text": " about the 90s. It's going to be like the 22nd century or whatever and I'm going to" }, { "start": 4383.9800000000005, "end": 4388.66, "text": " have artificial hearts and artificial everything else and I'm still going to be nostalgic" }, { "start": 4388.66, "end": 4391.18, "text": " about 1990s. That was my decade." }, { "start": 4391.18, "end": 4392.9400000000005, "text": " But at that time –" }, { "start": 4392.94, "end": 4398.259999999999, "text": " Vlad just mentioned that he's going to be alive in the 22nd century which is no less than" }, { "start": 4398.259999999999, "end": 4401.219999999999, "text": " 87 years away from now." }, { "start": 4401.219999999999, "end": 4402.219999999999, "text": " Wait, why not?" }, { "start": 4402.219999999999, "end": 4405.66, "text": " So Vlad plans to be a centurion at least." }, { "start": 4405.66, "end": 4410.74, "text": " Dude, I am definitely eating the right diet for it. I'm eating enough cabbage to survive." }, { "start": 4410.74, "end": 4415.58, "text": " Wait, isn't a centurion like a Roman warrior or something?" }, { "start": 4415.58, "end": 4418.259999999999, "text": " Centenarian? Is that what I'm trying to say? Centenarian?" }, { "start": 4418.259999999999, "end": 4419.259999999999, "text": " Maybe." }, { "start": 4419.26, "end": 4426.3, "text": " A centurion is so much cooler so I'm down with it. No, but seriously, in the 90s we" }, { "start": 4426.3, "end": 4430.42, "text": " had already figured out – and even before the 90s, that's my recollection – we had" }, { "start": 4430.42, "end": 4438.34, "text": " already figured out how to make a watch work without any extra power. You could just, with" }, { "start": 4438.34, "end": 4440.900000000001, "text": " the movement of your hand, you could recharge a watch." }, { "start": 4440.900000000001, "end": 4443.1, "text": " That actually happened decades before that." }, { "start": 4443.1, "end": 4448.18, "text": " I'm just talking about the freaking 90s man. Whatever happened before was born didn't" }, { "start": 4448.18, "end": 4449.18, "text": " happen." }, { "start": 4449.18, "end": 4453.66, "text": " Yeah, they did. They figured it out decades before. Maybe it trickled down to actually" }, { "start": 4453.66, "end": 4456.26, "text": " accessible for normals by then." }, { "start": 4456.26, "end": 4458.26, "text": " Okay, listen, if the 90s –" }, { "start": 4458.26, "end": 4462.46, "text": " Citizen has had kinetic watches since the 60s, I'm pretty sure." }, { "start": 4462.46, "end": 4466.22, "text": " I didn't say we invented kinetic watches in the 1990s, so stop arguing with a point" }, { "start": 4466.22, "end": 4472.1, "text": " I'm not making. All I'm saying is if that's the last relatable decade for me, we have" }, { "start": 4472.1, "end": 4476.700000000001, "text": " an even younger audience. Let's not push it too far back. My point is this, we had" }, { "start": 4476.7, "end": 4481.22, "text": " figured out how to have a watch keep going perpetually without needing to recharge it" }, { "start": 4481.22, "end": 4486.5, "text": " or do any extra special things. We had figured out how to have a contact book without requiring" }, { "start": 4486.5, "end": 4487.82, "text": " any power." }, { "start": 4487.82, "end": 4492.86, "text": " Whereas the way we're moving now is every single one of these things that we could do" }, { "start": 4492.86, "end": 4499.72, "text": " mechanically or in some other automatic fashion now requires power. Now we need electricity" }, { "start": 4499.72, "end": 4506.5, "text": " to power off just for our watch, just to keep time, just to keep our contacts up to date." }, { "start": 4506.5, "end": 4512.5, "text": " All of these things. It's like we lose the tactility of having an actual nice notebook" }, { "start": 4512.5, "end": 4516.46, "text": " in which you keep your contacts. We lose the ability to write because we no longer need" }, { "start": 4516.46, "end": 4522.04, "text": " to do it. Can any of you remember writing, physically writing, other than signing your" }, { "start": 4522.04, "end": 4523.66, "text": " signature on a bill?" }, { "start": 4523.66, "end": 4525.5, "text": " I take notes in a notebook all the time." }, { "start": 4525.5, "end": 4526.5, "text": " Yeah, I take notes." }, { "start": 4526.5, "end": 4529.5, "text": " Okay, well good. You're not that far beyond explanation." }, { "start": 4529.5, "end": 4531.5, "text": " My handwriting is horrendous." }, { "start": 4531.5, "end": 4540.34, "text": " I guess I'm just having one of those nostalgic anti-tech moments where you think, well why" }, { "start": 4540.34, "end": 4544.98, "text": " does everything need to have a freaking battery in it? Why does everything need to be powered?" }, { "start": 4544.98, "end": 4552.9, "text": " Whereas we figured out ways to do these things adequately already without power. That to" }, { "start": 4552.9, "end": 4558.82, "text": " me is the fundamental issue with smart watches is they start sucking down power. They start" }, { "start": 4558.82, "end": 4564.179999999999, "text": " being yet another device that you need to keep recharged on a weekly basis or whatever" }, { "start": 4564.179999999999, "end": 4571.5, "text": " else. Like you guys are saying, we need a really compelling feature, a real must have" }, { "start": 4571.5, "end": 4576.9, "text": " additional value or benefit that makes us want to do that extra charging and that extra" }, { "start": 4576.9, "end": 4577.9, "text": " fuss." }, { "start": 4577.9, "end": 4583.179999999999, "text": " I think that just is what makes it so hard right now because on the one hand you want" }, { "start": 4583.18, "end": 4589.06, "text": " a smart watch to have this great functionality right out of the box. You want it to look" }, { "start": 4589.06, "end": 4596.02, "text": " great. You want it to be a fantastic timepiece. You also want it to have a couple of staples" }, { "start": 4596.02, "end": 4605.38, "text": " of smartness. You want to receive notifications and you want to be able to accept and receive" }, { "start": 4605.38, "end": 4615.1, "text": " calls or deny calls from your wrist. But what makes it really challenging is that inevitably" }, { "start": 4615.1, "end": 4618.62, "text": " people will want to do so much more with it so you have to kind of…" }, { "start": 4618.62, "end": 4624.22, "text": " No not inevitably. Samsung has put it in your head that you need to be able to do so much" }, { "start": 4624.22, "end": 4626.58, "text": " more with your smart watch. You don't." }, { "start": 4626.58, "end": 4632.78, "text": " No, I'm not saying you don't need to do more things with your smart watch. I don't" }, { "start": 4632.78, "end": 4637.0199999999995, "text": " want to add and remove contacts. I don't want to flick through it to change music." }, { "start": 4637.0199999999995, "end": 4638.0199999999995, "text": " I just want the…" }, { "start": 4638.0199999999995, "end": 4639.0199999999995, "text": " I do." }, { "start": 4639.0199999999995, "end": 4648.5, "text": " I mean, you know, to each their own. But you need to at least have the capability of extending" }, { "start": 4648.5, "end": 4656.34, "text": " the functionality to things like when I get in proximity of my computer, unlock it. Or" }, { "start": 4656.34, "end": 4663.9400000000005, "text": " if I'm in proximity of my door, automatically unlock that or start up my car or whatever." }, { "start": 4663.9400000000005, "end": 4668.7, "text": " Well so Motorola kind of took a baby step in that direction with its trusted Bluetooth" }, { "start": 4668.7, "end": 4673.7, "text": " device concept, right? Which is pretty cool. I remember for a while Dieter had his Pebble" }, { "start": 4673.7, "end": 4676.06, "text": " set up as his trusted object." }, { "start": 4676.06, "end": 4681.14, "text": " I must note that you do not need a Motorola to do that. There's apps for the Pebble" }, { "start": 4681.14, "end": 4684.78, "text": " and there's actually apps for the Sony smart watch that I mentioned in the review that" }, { "start": 4684.78, "end": 4691.099999999999, "text": " let you do the same thing with your phone. But it doesn't open my house door and it" }, { "start": 4691.099999999999, "end": 4696.179999999999, "text": " doesn't sign me into my laptop and things like that that it could do." }, { "start": 4696.179999999999, "end": 4705.219999999999, "text": " Best Buy is now selling… what is it called? Kemo or Keebo or Keego or something like that." }, { "start": 4705.219999999999, "end": 4707.42, "text": " It's the Bluetooth deadbolt." }, { "start": 4707.42, "end": 4708.42, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4708.42, "end": 4714.34, "text": " So they're slowly moving in that direction but it's going to be just a complete nightmare" }, { "start": 4714.34, "end": 4724.38, "text": " because there will be no standards for it. Earlier today on Twitter I was saying that" }, { "start": 4724.38, "end": 4732.58, "text": " we need Harmony, iRobot, Nest and Dyson to just merge and take over the home because" }, { "start": 4732.58, "end": 4739.02, "text": " no one else is going to do this in a way that makes any sense. Nest obviously has a plan," }, { "start": 4739.02, "end": 4743.74, "text": " a roadmap but they're moving very slowly so maybe with some additional horsepower they" }, { "start": 4743.74, "end": 4746.94, "text": " would be able to move a little quicker. But yeah, all these companies are coming up with" }, { "start": 4746.94, "end": 4750.46, "text": " their own solutions for it. It's a great idea, they just need to move faster and they" }, { "start": 4750.46, "end": 4753.42, "text": " need to do it in a way that is standardized." }, { "start": 4753.42, "end": 4757.34, "text": " When you say Harmony, do you mean Logitech Harmony?" }, { "start": 4757.34, "end": 4765.42, "text": " Yeah. But Logitech said like six months ago that they want to spin off Harmony, right?" }, { "start": 4765.42, "end": 4767.94, "text": " So spin it right off into Nest." }, { "start": 4767.94, "end": 4775.78, "text": " Yeah, just spin it off into Nest and then maybe James Dyson will air blade it into a," }, { "start": 4775.78, "end": 4779.74, "text": " I don't know, come up with some." }, { "start": 4779.74, "end": 4782.339999999999, "text": " No dude, use a backless vacuum." }, { "start": 4782.339999999999, "end": 4783.339999999999, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 4783.339999999999, "end": 4784.339999999999, "text": " Alright guys." }, { "start": 4784.339999999999, "end": 4792.74, "text": " Just before we do wrap up, I do think that there's the kernel of a utility here with" }, { "start": 4792.74, "end": 4797.94, "text": " using the smartwatch as a security device. I mean you guys remember a couple of podcasts" }, { "start": 4797.94, "end": 4804.099999999999, "text": " ago Dieter was asking what is the smallest, tiniest Bluetooth transceiver that I can have" }, { "start": 4804.099999999999, "end": 4810.179999999999, "text": " in order to do that security and unlocking thing. And if you put it in the watch, that" }, { "start": 4810.179999999999, "end": 4815.66, "text": " is the thing that is most secure among all your devices because it's literally strapped" }, { "start": 4815.66, "end": 4823.9, "text": " to you. Even Google Glass isn't strapped to you. I don't really have another way of saying" }, { "start": 4823.9, "end": 4825.099999999999, "text": " that." }, { "start": 4825.099999999999, "end": 4835.38, "text": " So I personally, if you make a smartwatch that syncs up with the computer and just unlocks" }, { "start": 4835.38, "end": 4840.86, "text": " it, powers it up from sleep when you're next to it, etc. and just does these things really" }, { "start": 4840.86, "end": 4845.5, "text": " smoothly. Like I say, I don't want the Sony smartwatch 2 experience where everything is" }, { "start": 4845.5, "end": 4849.78, "text": " barren and then I have to go and hunt around and do things. I just need it to be out of" }, { "start": 4849.78, "end": 4857.18, "text": " the box working, beautiful and lovely and impressive to nearby ladies. I think that" }, { "start": 4857.18, "end": 4861.6, "text": " is where smartwatches can really start taking off." }, { "start": 4861.6, "end": 4867.94, "text": " And on that note, Impressing the Ladies wraps up this episode of the Verge Mobile Show." }, { "start": 4867.94, "end": 4872.9, "text": " So we thank you for listening and tuning in. If you want to follow us, you can of course" }, { "start": 4872.9, "end": 4882.42, "text": " follow us at Verge. I'm DC Seifert, Vlad is Vlad Savov, Evan is Evan Rogers, and Chris" }, { "start": 4882.42, "end": 4887.9, "text": " is ZPower and Dieter Bohn is at Baclon and hopefully he'll be joining us again next" }, { "start": 4887.9, "end": 4894.179999999999, "text": " week. And if you're in the US, have a happy holiday, eat some turkey or tofurkey or whatever" }, { "start": 4894.18, "end": 4900.780000000001, "text": " you like to eat and we'll see you guys next week. Deuces. Later." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 3, "text": " It's Monday, November 25th, 2013." }, { "start": 3, "end": 7, "text": " I'm Sam Sheffer and today I begin the Verge Thanksgiving Fast 2K13." }, { "start": 7, "end": 9, "text": " Gotta start making room for that turkey." }, { "start": 9, "end": 11, "text": " This is 90 seconds on the Verge." }, { "start": 11, "end": 16, "text": " The FDA has ordered 23andMe.com, a company that provides at-home DNA analysis," }, { "start": 16, "end": 19, "text": " to halt sales of its product, claiming it's currently being marketed" }, { "start": 19, "end": 22, "text": " quote, without proper clearance or approval from regulators." }, { "start": 22, "end": 26, "text": " The company has twice submitted its test kit for review as a medical device," }, { "start": 26, "end": 27, "text": " but the FDA has yet to approve it." }, { "start": 27, "end": 31, "text": " The FDA has worked tirelessly with 23andMe.com to resolve the situation," }, { "start": 31, "end": 33, "text": " but discussions have proven unsuccessful." }, { "start": 33, "end": 37, "text": " Iran is temporarily halting its nuclear program in what is being called a historic event." }, { "start": 37, "end": 43, "text": " Six countries, including the U.S., have reached a deal that would see Iran cease enriching uranium beyond 5 percent" }, { "start": 43, "end": 46, "text": " and begin diluting material that had been enriched beyond 20 percent," }, { "start": 46, "end": 50, "text": " both of which should mean that Iran could produce nuclear energy, but not nuclear weapons." }, { "start": 50, "end": 56, "text": " Critics of the deal, including some in Congress, express concern because it doesn't completely dismantle Iran's enrichment program." }, { "start": 56, "end": 62, "text": " While this is certainly a large step forward, the entirety of Iran's nuclear program must still be addressed in the coming months." }, { "start": 62, "end": 66, "text": " And finally, crack open a six-pack of Budweiser because Roadhouse is coming back." }, { "start": 66, "end": 73, "text": " MGM is remaking Patrick Swayze's hit film from 1989 about a cooler that's called in to clean up the double-deuce bar." }, { "start": 73, "end": 77, "text": " The film will be directed by Rob Cohen, the director of the original Fast and Furious." }, { "start": 77, "end": 80, "text": " While no release date or casting has been announced, I can't help but be excited." }, { "start": 80, "end": 82, "text": " We all get how excited you are." }, { "start": 82, "end": 84, "text": " And that's it for today's top stories." }, { "start": 84, "end": 89, "text": " Coming up tomorrow, I begin another Thanksgiving back to K13." } ]

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I heard here the director call a camera cut and I just automatically go" }, { "start": 579.36, "end": 584.12, "text": " to it so at this point my career has pretty much become reactive as far as" }, { "start": 584.12, "end": 586.6, "text": " some of the camera cuts and what I'm listening to and how I react to those." }, { "start": 586.6, "end": 592.08, "text": " Sometimes I open different mics to make more sense with the picture versus the" }, { "start": 592.08, "end": 597.24, "text": " cameras that are close up. If you're on the sidelines of a game you hear things" }, { "start": 597.24, "end": 604.04, "text": " that people at home watching on TV never get to hear or experience so we are" }, { "start": 604.04, "end": 609.32, "text": " walking a fine line between that audio and yet not giving away state secrets" }, { "start": 609.32, "end": 614.72, "text": " because believe it coaches watch TV tapes now to pick anything they can up" }, { "start": 614.72, "end": 617.96, "text": " off what they hear from the line of scrimmage. What our industry has done" }, { "start": 617.96, "end": 622.5200000000001, "text": " over the years is provided up close video and personal video they want to" }, { "start": 622.5200000000001, "end": 628.5600000000001, "text": " hear the audio the same and sometimes we can provide that sometimes we can't." }, { "start": 631.48, "end": 637.0400000000001, "text": " I think from from learning from people who did this job well is you let people" }, { "start": 637.04, "end": 641.68, "text": " do their jobs I think on Sundays it all comes together with a balance of" }, { "start": 641.68, "end": 648.4399999999999, "text": " everything. You know sounds but let's not overdo it you know tight pictures but" }, { "start": 648.4399999999999, "end": 653, "text": " let's not overdo it X's knows let's not overdo it my job is to find the balance" }, { "start": 653, "end": 657.8, "text": " to bring everything together and make sure it all fits." }, { "start": 659.68, "end": 663.3199999999999, "text": " It's really neat because it's like working on a great team and you're" }, { "start": 663.3199999999999, "end": 666.8, "text": " seeing all those everybody come together and they all know their job they know" }, { "start": 666.8, "end": 670.0799999999999, "text": " what they're doing they're the best of what they do. You know broadcasting is" }, { "start": 670.0799999999999, "end": 673.76, "text": " similar to being on a you know a team Troy Aikman would say the same thing you" }, { "start": 673.76, "end": 676.4799999999999, "text": " know he might be the star of the team but it takes a whole team to actually put" }, { "start": 676.4799999999999, "end": 680.76, "text": " the broadcast together so we just spend the weekend all together we have dinner" }, { "start": 680.76, "end": 684.16, "text": " together we spend a lot of time together and that's the best thing spending time" }, { "start": 684.16, "end": 688.52, "text": " together as a broadcast team. I mean we've known each other for years even" }, { "start": 688.52, "end": 693.76, "text": " before we got on this crew a lot of us how to put things together that there's" }, { "start": 693.76, "end": 705.24, "text": " a hierarchy there's not yet yeah that'd be the boss there are times I spend more" }, { "start": 705.24, "end": 709.28, "text": " time with these guys than I do with my family because not only this I go right" }, { "start": 709.28, "end": 714.52, "text": " into NASCAR and that's 20 some weeks and you're spending four days a week with" }, { "start": 714.52, "end": 718.68, "text": " them and only two at home. I think I think most of us in this business enjoy" }, { "start": 718.68, "end": 725.64, "text": " doing what we do because we like it we have fun doing it and we'd hate to have" }, { "start": 725.64, "end": 731.4, "text": " a real job sitting behind a desk all day. When you hear that three count going" }, { "start": 731.4, "end": 735.04, "text": " into the open of the show I'll tell you what the rush is absolutely incredible" }, { "start": 735.04, "end": 738.52, "text": " knowing there is no going back there are no retakes you have to do it right do it" }, { "start": 738.52, "end": 742.64, "text": " right the first time and and it's a pretty big rush and I still get that" }, { "start": 742.64, "end": 747.16, "text": " rush. Live TV is the only kind of TV you want to be in now there are people a lot" }, { "start": 747.16, "end": 751.36, "text": " more creative than I am who can sit in an edit room and create a show from" }, { "start": 751.36, "end": 755.1999999999999, "text": " scratch and those people are really smart and really talented but there's" }, { "start": 755.1999999999999, "end": 759.52, "text": " nothing like the adrenaline of being part of a live broadcast you just don't" }, { "start": 759.52, "end": 765.16, "text": " know how it's going to go you can talk to broadcasters former athletes you know" }, { "start": 765.16, "end": 768.6, "text": " there's nothing like playing but the closest thing you can get to playing or" }, { "start": 768.6, "end": 779.52, "text": " coaching is being in TV and covering an NFL game." }, { "start": 798.6, "end": 801.66, "text": " you" } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 2.5, "text": " It's Friday, November 22nd, 2013." }, { "start": 2.5, "end": 6.5, "text": " I'm Kwame Opam, and it's my first time hosting, but everyone's been pretty supportive." }, { "start": 8.5, "end": 10.5, "text": " This is 90 Seconds on the Verge." }, { "start": 11.5, "end": 14.5, "text": " Who wants a piece of Time Warner Cable? Everyone, apparently." }, { "start": 14.5, "end": 17.5, "text": " Several outlets are reporting that both Comcast and Charter Communications" }, { "start": 17.5, "end": 19.5, "text": " are preparing offers to buy the Telecom company." }, { "start": 19.5, "end": 23.5, "text": " Even more intriguing, Bloomberg says both companies are working together on a joint bid" }, { "start": 23.5, "end": 25.5, "text": " which would break up Time Warner Cable's assets." }, { "start": 25.5, "end": 28.5, "text": " The question is, what will Time Warner Cable be bundled with?" }, { "start": 28.5, "end": 32.5, "text": " In the damages retrial of Apple vs. Samsung, the jury has reached its verdict," }, { "start": 32.5, "end": 35.5, "text": " and it's going to cost Samsung more than $290 million." }, { "start": 35.5, "end": 39.5, "text": " In August of last year, a different jury found Samsung guilty of infringing Apple's patents" }, { "start": 39.5, "end": 42.5, "text": " and ordered it to pay over $1 billion in damages." }, { "start": 42.5, "end": 46.5, "text": " Judge Lucy Koh lowered that to $600 million, and the remainder was the subject of this trial." }, { "start": 46.5, "end": 50.5, "text": " Two juries have now awarded Apple a total of approximately $900 million," }, { "start": 50.5, "end": 53.5, "text": " but fans will want to miss the next entry in this epic series." }, { "start": 53.5, "end": 56, "text": " Apple vs. Samsung 3, up here before dawn." }, { "start": 56, "end": 59.5, "text": " And finally, goodbye next-gen gaming, your officially current gen." }, { "start": 59.5, "end": 62.5, "text": " The Xbox One launched last night with midnight release parties across the world." }, { "start": 62.5, "end": 65.5, "text": " Microsoft is promoting the Xbox One as an all-in-one entertainment device." }, { "start": 65.5, "end": 69.5, "text": " And while the gaming is good, TV integration and Kinect voice commands aren't quite there." }, { "start": 69.5, "end": 73.5, "text": " Sony's one million strong PlayStation 4 launch set the sales bar pretty high." }, { "start": 73.5, "end": 77.5, "text": " But remember, whichever console you choose, the other one was probably better." }, { "start": 77.5, "end": 79, "text": " And that's it for today's top stories." }, { "start": 79, "end": 81.5, "text": " Coming up tomorrow, Tinder adds its latest update." }, { "start": 81.5, "end": 85.5, "text": " The Just Friends, but I'm going to make you feel like we can maybe one day be more than that," }, { "start": 85.5, "end": 88.5, "text": " even though I'll never feel the same way about you as you feel about me, future." } ]

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[ { "start": 0, "end": 29, "text": " Hello, and welcome to the Vergecast. Paul Miller is here. He's not wearing a sweater." }, { "start": 29, "end": 45, "text": " Really disappointing Paul. Can I just put it on right now? Oh, but it's like, how is it that every time you're on the show you just run away for no reason? What do you mean run away? Remember last time we you were here? Yeah, we triumphant 100th Vergecast. Yeah, to end it. You just left." }, { "start": 45, "end": 51, "text": " I went upstairs. That's not an answer. I think I went in." }, { "start": 51, "end": 65, "text": " I went and got drinks with people. It was Halloween and I went to drinks. The show wasn't over yet. Oh, that during the show. Yeah, I'm going to spend this entire Vergecast just doing this the whole time." }, { "start": 65, "end": 74, "text": " Also, Dieter Bone is here. Hi, and welcome to the Vergecast, the show where we don't wear sweaters ever. Never, never any sweaters." }, { "start": 74, "end": 87, "text": " That's a great Weezer song. Wow. What? It is. Hi, welcome to the Vergecast. I'm going to start over. Hello and welcome to the Vergecast, the show about whatever." }, { "start": 87, "end": 96, "text": " I'm Nila Patel. I'm Paul Miller and I'm Dieter Bone. Dieter Bone lives in New York City now. Yes, I do. I live in New York in Brooklyn. It's lovely. I've been here since Sunday." }, { "start": 96, "end": 105, "text": " Yeah. Yeah. Live in life. Can't wait to get furniture. Yeah, that'll be pretty awesome. Do you feel like a New Yorker yet? No. Yeah, I don't know that I ever will." }, { "start": 105, "end": 113, "text": " I'm looking forward to being the contrarian New Yorker that tells you that this is not the greatest city on earth. Oh, hey. Oh, God. Oh, God. I'm breaking it." }, { "start": 113, "end": 126, "text": " Oh, God. No, I broke it. Oh, me lie. Why? These mic stands hate me so much. This is a perfect example of what's wrong with New York. Your mic stands don't stay up. You're not from San Francisco." }, { "start": 126, "end": 137, "text": " No, guys, just put it off. Where are you from? Is it San Francisco? You're not from San Francisco. It's San Francisco, isn't it? No, that's not. It's fine." }, { "start": 137, "end": 148, "text": " I'm going to talk into the microphone. It sounded like it said, listen to big will in the middle. This is starting really well. I mean, this is terrible. I would like to apologize to everyone." }, { "start": 148, "end": 156, "text": " You hate New York. It's fine. Get over here. David Dieter is here. We're very excited to move to New York. There's only one left, one missing puzzle piece in my master plan." }, { "start": 156, "end": 165, "text": " And you can address him directly at ZPower and ask him when he's moving to New York. Welcome to Vergecast, everybody. Okay, so a gigantic week of news." }, { "start": 165, "end": 174, "text": " Lots of we have tons of stuff. There's like a pile. There's a pile of toys for camera over here. Almost can't see me like because of the pile of technology. Yeah, fresh." }, { "start": 174, "end": 183, "text": " Here's how I'd like to structure this show. You just pick up stuff and we cut to reaction shots. Where do you want to start?" }, { "start": 183, "end": 189, "text": " Well, actually, we need to start. We need to start with the biggest news of the week and the biggest news of tomorrow, which the Xbox one is launching last week." }, { "start": 189, "end": 198, "text": " It was all about PlayStation four. We covered it at length. People got very mad at me because I mentioned that the PS4 might be a better pure game console." }, { "start": 198, "end": 208, "text": " And the Xbox one is like an ambitious other thing. I thought that was like the narrative since day one. No, no, no. But if you ask people in the Microsoft tribe, the narrative is that I hate everything." }, { "start": 208, "end": 214, "text": " Enjoy may not exist. Well, the funny thing about that is that's true. That is also true." }, { "start": 214, "end": 219, "text": " You know, the Microsoft tribe is full of very smart people, very perceptive folks." }, { "start": 219, "end": 224, "text": " I feel like being a fan of a console is like being a fan of a president." }, { "start": 224, "end": 232, "text": " So being a versus like being a fan of like you've got like this local representative and you help them get elected and you did door to door stuff." }, { "start": 232, "end": 237, "text": " It's like you can own that. You could be a fan of that. You're my guy. Yeah, I got you a console." }, { "start": 237, "end": 246, "text": " Really? It's like the price. It's like, yeah, you suck. Like you're going to go and you're going to go from fresh faced Barack Obama to old white haired angry looking Obama." }, { "start": 246, "end": 251, "text": " It's fine. Right. Just doing it. Drone Wars. That's what concepts are like. Yeah." }, { "start": 251, "end": 256, "text": " The Xbox one, by the way, has a drone army. So you played you were on Polygon's live stream yesterday." }, { "start": 256, "end": 261, "text": " I was on Polygon's live stream yesterday. And Dieter knows nothing about anything. I know nothing about it. You play video games. I do play video games." }, { "start": 261, "end": 267, "text": " I canceled my Xbox one order. So you're the one you're the one person who really did it." }, { "start": 267, "end": 272, "text": " This is this is the longest standing troll in our comments right now is like any piece of news." }, { "start": 272, "end": 277, "text": " It's like I canceled my preorder. Right. And then other people insist that that is either true or not true." }, { "start": 277, "end": 283, "text": " I did it for really real. Although I did it mostly because I was frustrated at Microsoft's customer service." }, { "start": 283, "end": 288, "text": " Wow. Which is terrible. I couldn't get him to change my shipping address since I just moved to Brooklyn." }, { "start": 288, "end": 292, "text": " And then I realized that there's a couple of games that I'm interested in on Xbox." }, { "start": 292, "end": 299, "text": " But really, like I've got eight games for the 360 that I haven't played yet. I just played Jet Set Radio." }, { "start": 299, "end": 304, "text": " Yeah. Which is like a Dreamcast game on my Xbox 360. Like that's that's where I'm at with the backlog." }, { "start": 304, "end": 313, "text": " Yeah. You know, I've got a lot of dreamcast, which is crazy. So yesterday I tweeted that you started a fight." }, { "start": 313, "end": 326, "text": " The N64 was the best console launch of all time because of Mario 64, because of Mario 64, which was like an atomic bomb throughout the industry of like, oh, crap, this is so awesome and different and crazy." }, { "start": 326, "end": 333, "text": " And I could not identify even a close second place like a console with a launch title." }, { "start": 333, "end": 343, "text": " Yeah. People saw it, freaked out. They had to have it. And like the one that's far and away in my mind is Mario 64, the N64." }, { "start": 343, "end": 349, "text": " Now, what's funny is that I got three pieces or two pieces of feedback and one one missing piece of feedback." }, { "start": 349, "end": 358, "text": " So the two that I got consistently, the Dreamcast weirdly and then the Super Nintendo was Super Mario World, which is like you can make that argument." }, { "start": 358, "end": 360, "text": " Yeah. What did Dreamcast launch with?" }, { "start": 360, "end": 367, "text": " I don't know, but lots of people brought the Dreamcast with that taxi game. I was not a Dreamcast person." }, { "start": 367, "end": 372, "text": " But then the one I didn't hear at all, which I think is crazy, is the Wii." }, { "start": 372, "end": 376, "text": " I expected to hear the Wii a lot because we launched this like Wii Sports." }, { "start": 376, "end": 379, "text": " Yeah, but it launched this like a huge explosion of like this is the new video game." }, { "start": 379, "end": 382, "text": " I mean, as far as like, but I didn't hear that at all." }, { "start": 382, "end": 391, "text": " Successful launch titles, like money made by a launch title. I think you have to go Wii, but best game that's a launch title." }, { "start": 391, "end": 395, "text": " I think that's more like, yeah, absolutely. But there's no there's no denying it." }, { "start": 395, "end": 405, "text": " And there is there is something to that. Just that. Man, because I've been watching Mario 64 speedruns." }, { "start": 405, "end": 412, "text": " The current world record for all hundred twenty something stars is a minute forty four." }, { "start": 412, "end": 413, "text": " Yeah. What?" }, { "start": 413, "end": 416, "text": " No, no, no. A minute forty four. An hour forty four." }, { "start": 416, "end": 419, "text": " It's a minute forty four and six pounds of cocaine." }, { "start": 419, "end": 428, "text": " I apologize. I apologize. But like watching like like that. That's got like like like wall jumps and backflips and diving." }, { "start": 428, "end": 429, "text": " Yeah, there's all these moves." }, { "start": 429, "end": 433, "text": " You could ride on like a turtle shell and zoom around the level and you can get wings." }, { "start": 433, "end": 438, "text": " You can shoot out of cannon. That was a game that introduced me to the concept of the camera in a game." }, { "start": 438, "end": 445, "text": " Yeah, no. And like if you watch that game, you like I'm watching a stream, but you hear the sound effect every time he changes the camera." }, { "start": 445, "end": 449, "text": " And what that's saying is like, hey, guys, there's cameras now." }, { "start": 449, "end": 453, "text": " Yeah. Oh, my gosh. We're going to remind you of the sound effect that you can move the like." }, { "start": 453, "end": 460, "text": " It's like they're so different and they innovated so much and put so much heart and passion and work into a launch title." }, { "start": 460, "end": 466, "text": " They didn't come out with another Mario game until a million years later." }, { "start": 466, "end": 473, "text": " Right. But the thing about that, it's like none of the launch titles for the PS4 or the Xbox One are even close." }, { "start": 473, "end": 476, "text": " Yeah, like not even close. So here's ghosts." }, { "start": 476, "end": 481, "text": " You really force that is Microsoft's for for that." }, { "start": 481, "end": 490, "text": " That's like Microsoft's like a true real exclusive. Yeah. Big budget, huge game that other than what?" }, { "start": 490, "end": 501, "text": " Drive a Tars. Fortis. I mean, I played it. It's great. So one third of it is clearly a refinement of the last generation type of really of a Gran Turismo." }, { "start": 501, "end": 506, "text": " Right. It's a refinement of a Gran Turismo formula. It's like a hyper accurate." }, { "start": 506, "end": 511, "text": " Paul, wow. This is my phone. Should I take it? I don't think you should take." }, { "start": 511, "end": 518, "text": " Paul, what is that? What was that ring tone? Like what kind of funky robot ring tone is going on?" }, { "start": 518, "end": 524, "text": " That's that's oh, my God. That's Rockapella. Everything in the studio is falling apart." }, { "start": 524, "end": 526, "text": " That's that's Rockapella from Carbocer." }, { "start": 526, "end": 530, "text": " Everybody Jordan's fixing the piece of paper that fell down, shocking me to my very core." }, { "start": 530, "end": 534, "text": " Yeah, that was pretty terrifying. So did I make a mistake canceling my Xbox One?" }, { "start": 534, "end": 542, "text": " OK, so we should talk about the Xbox One. So, no, I don't think so. But for this reason, because it's not yet." }, { "start": 542, "end": 547, "text": " Right. There will come a day when the Xbox One is like ready." }, { "start": 547, "end": 553, "text": " That day is called Titanfall. Yeah, Titanfall release day. That's like March." }, { "start": 553, "end": 558, "text": " But if you if you wait, if you're waiting on the game, it's like March and then you should definitely buy one." }, { "start": 558, "end": 572, "text": " If you're waiting on all of the promise of the Xbox One, it's wildly TBD like they don't even want the consoles have not just like, you know, with this last generation, we saw a ton of innovation after release." }, { "start": 572, "end": 576, "text": " Right. But both of these consoles have a ton of announced features that aren't in the console." }, { "start": 576, "end": 580, "text": " Yeah. But pure potentiality is the guy." }, { "start": 580, "end": 582, "text": " Well, I'm not for PS4." }, { "start": 582, "end": 591, "text": " Streaming on the Xbox isn't there. Right. And then but the Xbox is also it's so weird when we were talking about something on the Polygon stream yesterday." }, { "start": 591, "end": 598, "text": " It's so weird that when you talk to the people who made the Xbox, like the executives and the engineers, they're like, yeah, it's like a Windows PC." }, { "start": 598, "end": 602, "text": " You know, we'll get there. You can port the apps really easy. Like don't it's all going to happen." }, { "start": 602, "end": 606, "text": " Like we just got to figure out like the policies and procedures for running this app store." }, { "start": 606, "end": 614, "text": " Like that's a big project. We weren't ready for it at launch. And but they're very clear that like Windows is there and they're going to do Windows things." }, { "start": 614, "end": 618, "text": " And if you ask the PR, they're like, no, no, it's not a Windows PC." }, { "start": 618, "end": 623, "text": " Yeah, right. That's and it's like, well, you've had PR problems since launch with this thing." }, { "start": 623, "end": 629, "text": " Like every moment of the Xbox launch has been plagued by bad messaging or retracted messaging." }, { "start": 629, "end": 631, "text": " And then you're like, so what is it? Huh? Yeah. And then, yeah." }, { "start": 631, "end": 636, "text": " And then I flip a table. My but it is a PC. And like I open it up and expose the AMD GPU." }, { "start": 636, "end": 643, "text": " I think it's really important because the fan is like the iFixit turned on today and it's like five inches across." }, { "start": 643, "end": 652, "text": " It's gigantic. No, it's PC. It's a Windows PC. And they want to work well with developers." }, { "start": 652, "end": 657, "text": " I think they do. This could have a billion ports in a week. Right." }, { "start": 657, "end": 665, "text": " But if it's just a PC, that it has basically the same like rate of ports as like the Steam Box." }, { "start": 665, "end": 667, "text": " Maybe a little slow. Well, no, but it's Windows." }, { "start": 667, "end": 674, "text": " Like they're very clear that like they have taken complicated Windows apps and move them the Xbox platform in 24 hours." }, { "start": 674, "end": 679, "text": " Like that's a thing that they say. The Xbox, the game part isn't straight Windows, though, right?" }, { "start": 679, "end": 683, "text": " Yeah, it's running operating systems or whatever they say." }, { "start": 683, "end": 691, "text": " Well, yeah, there's a little three, but it's really two. There's the hypervisor and then there's like the game called the Xbox 720 side." }, { "start": 691, "end": 694, "text": " Right. The new Xbox side. And then there's a Windows side." }, { "start": 694, "end": 703, "text": " And the Windows side, as far as I can tell, is not being used in any substantive way outside of like running Skype, running the various media apps." }, { "start": 703, "end": 718, "text": " Is that the games? I mean, I just think the the Steam Box, I mean, I was playing Jet Set Radio yesterday and that's like that was that's an HD remake of a Dreamcast game." }, { "start": 718, "end": 720, "text": " That was also, I think, released for the Xbox." }, { "start": 720, "end": 723, "text": " Just that Radio Future was released for the Xbox." }, { "start": 723, "end": 728, "text": " And then Microsoft did a backwards compatibility patch for some Xbox games." }, { "start": 728, "end": 734, "text": " Jet Set Radio Future was one of them. Like that has been such a weird, difficult, crazy thing." }, { "start": 734, "end": 742, "text": " But now everything is x86. Yeah. And and I don't want I don't think there should have to be another breaking compatibility." }, { "start": 742, "end": 745, "text": " And in fact, I think we should be able to get back a lot of these." }, { "start": 745, "end": 750, "text": " I mean, if you look at Steam right now, you get more and more old games all the time." }, { "start": 750, "end": 753, "text": " Like you get new games all the time and you get old games all the time." }, { "start": 753, "end": 759, "text": " And then there's like good old games like playing games on a computer is getting better and better." }, { "start": 759, "end": 762, "text": " Yeah. You get a larger library faster and faster." }, { "start": 762, "end": 767, "text": " And I don't see what what they have to compete with that yet unless they're really going to." }, { "start": 767, "end": 769, "text": " Well, this is the thing that I think is great." }, { "start": 769, "end": 778, "text": " Here's my question. You mentioned x86. So both these consoles, to me, they feel a little bit rushed because there's like so much potential and, you know, all the features aren't ready yet." }, { "start": 778, "end": 780, "text": " But they're coming and get ready for the games that are coming." }, { "start": 780, "end": 786, "text": " And that's fine. They're like, look, consoles have a seven to 10 year cycle." }, { "start": 786, "end": 791, "text": " And so it's OK that not everything is there at launch because this is a long game and in a couple of years things will be fine." }, { "start": 791, "end": 796, "text": " And my question is, why? Why is that OK? Why is that OK?" }, { "start": 796, "end": 804, "text": " Why can't especially now that they're both on x86, why can't like we have a faster release cycle for these consoles going forward?" }, { "start": 804, "end": 808, "text": " And it's not like we have the sort of graphical leap that we had from the Xbox to Xbox 360." }, { "start": 808, "end": 812, "text": " So Chris Grant's answer, because I asked him the same question about the PS4 last week." }, { "start": 812, "end": 815, "text": " His answer to that is like, you've got to get the install base." }, { "start": 815, "end": 821, "text": " So like unless you can somehow promise forwards compatibility, like next year, the next like Xbox two comes out." }, { "start": 821, "end": 825, "text": " You can't ask what people want Xbox one. Right. You need this." }, { "start": 825, "end": 829, "text": " You need this huge base overall over because the game developers need to sell to everybody." }, { "start": 829, "end": 834, "text": " Well, the dream should be that like when I play a game on a brand new iPad, it's great." }, { "start": 834, "end": 838, "text": " And when I play it on a slightly older iPad, it's the same game. It's the same install." }, { "start": 838, "end": 840, "text": " But it just doesn't look quite as nice. Yeah." }, { "start": 840, "end": 845, "text": " Like I would like to see them do that is your compatibility where they can get an Xbox plus." }, { "start": 845, "end": 852, "text": " But the only thing about that is that I do think in what we saw with the PlayStation three, the Xbox 360." }, { "start": 852, "end": 856, "text": " If you look at Grand Theft Auto five. Yeah. Versus a launch title." }, { "start": 856, "end": 866, "text": " When you have an exact precise description of your target platform, you can wring so much more performance out of that." }, { "start": 866, "end": 869, "text": " Then when you don't quite know what you're getting." }, { "start": 869, "end": 873, "text": " Well, no, I mean, I. That's true. Right." }, { "start": 873, "end": 877, "text": " And they will. Everybody from the game developers to platform vendors will tell you that." }, { "start": 877, "end": 880, "text": " But what I think is more." }, { "start": 880, "end": 886, "text": " At launch, particularly with the Xbox, they should have been more ready with this app side." }, { "start": 886, "end": 892, "text": " They should have been more ready with Angry Birds and other weird stuff in like shown people like here's all this latent potential." }, { "start": 892, "end": 896, "text": " Like we built a Windows app thing over here." }, { "start": 896, "end": 902, "text": " There should have been more stuff for it, not just a bunch of media apps, which are effectively the same media apps you get on the 360 already." }, { "start": 902, "end": 905, "text": " And I don't know why that is almost less." }, { "start": 905, "end": 907, "text": " Yeah. The issue goes in there yet. Right." }, { "start": 907, "end": 912, "text": " So like and like Twitter. Do we know the full story of how that other stuff is going to get on these consoles?" }, { "start": 912, "end": 915, "text": " What the app store. So, quote unquote. And they're in there. We're just working out." }, { "start": 915, "end": 918, "text": " We got to get to launch. It's like but this is the key to your platform." }, { "start": 918, "end": 921, "text": " Like it's not the TV stuff like that stuff isn't good." }, { "start": 921, "end": 930, "text": " But the key to your platform is like to be honest, as somebody who doesn't really want to spend a thousand dollars right now to get two consoles and I didn't preorder." }, { "start": 930, "end": 933, "text": " It's kind of a relief. Yeah. It's kind of nice." }, { "start": 933, "end": 937, "text": " That there's nothing so compelling and amazing that I have to go get it." }, { "start": 937, "end": 940, "text": " Like it's like, you know what? We'll just let those percolate for a little bit." }, { "start": 940, "end": 945, "text": " I'll play Jet Set Radio. Yeah. And then, you know, David Pierce just bought a he bought a 360." }, { "start": 945, "end": 949, "text": " That was his response to the launch was to buy a 360." }, { "start": 949, "end": 953, "text": " And like I keep doing this thing. I'm on Amazon and like I'm buying used games for five dollars left and right." }, { "start": 953, "end": 957, "text": " I never play any of them. Crazy. I've got the best 360 library of history." }, { "start": 957, "end": 960, "text": " I've never played any of them. Right. Like, awesome." }, { "start": 960, "end": 968, "text": " But it makes you feel better. God, I could have so much fun at my house if I would just have the time to play video games all day long." }, { "start": 968, "end": 972, "text": " No. So have you played with any of the other stuff? The TV stuff?" }, { "start": 972, "end": 978, "text": " I know you talk about the TV stuff. Can I just say directly to the camera?" }, { "start": 978, "end": 982, "text": " I don't care. Yeah. It's a good thing." }, { "start": 982, "end": 987, "text": " So I know that you're very, very, very mad at the Xbox One." }, { "start": 987, "end": 992, "text": " I'm not mad right now. It's actually a joyful feeling. It's like it's like it's one of those like delightful like I told you." }, { "start": 992, "end": 998, "text": " So you're happy to have something to hate. I own an IR repeater, an IR blaster." }, { "start": 998, "end": 1004, "text": " I love it. Why? Because I can use a Harmony One remote and I can." }, { "start": 1004, "end": 1010, "text": " No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You know what's on the other end of your IR repeater? Your eyes and brain." }, { "start": 1010, "end": 1014, "text": " Right. But you see what's going on. Like, you can understand the interface." }, { "start": 1014, "end": 1018, "text": " You're like pushing buttons to control it. It's not like a bunch of crazy ass macros." }, { "start": 1018, "end": 1022, "text": " Right. IR blasters are great if there's a human brain on the other end." }, { "start": 1022, "end": 1025, "text": " No, I mean, there's like macros to like activate the different components." }, { "start": 1025, "end": 1027, "text": " Yeah, but those are like a bunch of power switches." }, { "start": 1027, "end": 1035, "text": " If an Xbox One could like replace the Harmony One as my universal remote, I would actually be interested in that, even though I know the TV integration really sucks." }, { "start": 1035, "end": 1039, "text": " Wait, but there's no way for it to do that. I mean, that's like the. Yes, there is." }, { "start": 1039, "end": 1045, "text": " Buy Logitech. Right. But what is the mechanism by which it will replace your Harmony One? Yeah, fine." }, { "start": 1045, "end": 1048, "text": " Then they'll own more little cables with IR blasters coming out of them." }, { "start": 1048, "end": 1053, "text": " No, it's the it's the it's the other side. It's the two U.S. for your cable box." }, { "start": 1053, "end": 1058, "text": " It's the navigating your DVR menus and knowing when it's missed the channel. It's never going to do that stuff." }, { "start": 1058, "end": 1063, "text": " You know when your remote doesn't work and you like compensate for it. The Xbox has no ability to do that." }, { "start": 1063, "end": 1066, "text": " Right. And until it does, it's screwed." }, { "start": 1066, "end": 1071, "text": " Tell me something to make me happy. It's fun. I enjoy playing. I enjoy playing games on the Xbox One." }, { "start": 1071, "end": 1074, "text": " I think all of this TV stuff is a huge waste of their energy." }, { "start": 1074, "end": 1081, "text": " And that's why I definitely agree. Like, I wish they could take all of that out right now and sell for a hundred dollars." }, { "start": 1081, "end": 1084, "text": " Sell for a hundred dollars less. That would be so huge for them." }, { "start": 1084, "end": 1086, "text": " This is definitive proof. This is what I said when they announced it." }, { "start": 1086, "end": 1089, "text": " Like they built the world's best Google TV. Right." }, { "start": 1089, "end": 1095, "text": " And like they Microsoft was like, no, we didn't. And all the fans were like, no, it's going to be awesome." }, { "start": 1095, "end": 1099, "text": " It's the world's best. This part of the Xbox is the world's best Google TV." }, { "start": 1099, "end": 1100, "text": " Well, good for them." }, { "start": 1100, "end": 1106, "text": " Yeah. It's really exciting. I think if you love Google TV. So those 10 guys are going to be super, super pumped." }, { "start": 1106, "end": 1112, "text": " Everything else is like, why? I get why you want to do this, but it doesn't support surround sound. Right." }, { "start": 1112, "end": 1113, "text": " Like they didn't even like table stakes." }, { "start": 1113, "end": 1120, "text": " There are other parts of the Xbox experience. I mean the connect, it requires a very specific setup." }, { "start": 1120, "end": 1129, "text": " I'm in the process of migrating all my like home media gear from behind my couch where my projector is to the front of the room." }, { "start": 1129, "end": 1130, "text": " So that it can be." }, { "start": 1130, "end": 1131, "text": " Radical." }, { "start": 1131, "end": 1134, "text": " So they can be plugged into a connect." }, { "start": 1134, "end": 1138, "text": " Like it requires like, I don't know, there are certain strictures." }, { "start": 1138, "end": 1148, "text": " Like Microsoft has an idea in their head of how you do this stuff and there may be right for 75% of people." }, { "start": 1148, "end": 1152, "text": " So you say there's no extension cables for the connect because there aren't any yet. I'm sure there will be third party ones." }, { "start": 1152, "end": 1155, "text": " I'm not going to run a frigging connect cable 30 feet." }, { "start": 1155, "end": 1160, "text": " Have you had good success with the Xbox one connect? Have you tried to use it?" }, { "start": 1160, "end": 1163, "text": " Yeah, I was doing some leaning." }, { "start": 1163, "end": 1167, "text": " Oh yeah. The camera stuff is fine. It's really good at seeing you. It's terrible listening to me." }, { "start": 1167, "end": 1171, "text": " Is it way better in the small short rooms? Cause I need to be." }, { "start": 1171, "end": 1175, "text": " No, we were trying it on the polygon stream yesterday. We were trying it in studio B. We were right in front." }, { "start": 1175, "end": 1176, "text": " I mean, I was basically yelling into the camera." }, { "start": 1176, "end": 1178, "text": " Yeah. You don't have to be a million feet away anymore." }, { "start": 1178, "end": 1182, "text": " But I think that the speech recognition is decent." }, { "start": 1182, "end": 1191, "text": " I was upstairs trying out the Xbox one and I was turning up and down the volume because I didn't know where the TV remote was." }, { "start": 1191, "end": 1194, "text": " That was fun. Yeah. That's cool to be able to do." }, { "start": 1194, "end": 1198, "text": " And then when I left the room, I was going to go push the button to turn it off." }, { "start": 1198, "end": 1203, "text": " I was like, Xbox will turn off or something like that." }, { "start": 1203, "end": 1206, "text": " He just waves at it. Yeah, whatever you want to do is fine." }, { "start": 1206, "end": 1208, "text": " And then I had to go turn off the TV." }, { "start": 1208, "end": 1212, "text": " I've never once gotten Xbox on to turn anything on." }, { "start": 1212, "end": 1213, "text": " Really?" }, { "start": 1213, "end": 1214, "text": " Just doesn't. Nope." }, { "start": 1214, "end": 1219, "text": " And another cool thing is that the connect tracking of who's holding the controller." }, { "start": 1219, "end": 1221, "text": " That's cool. All this stuff is cool." }, { "start": 1221, "end": 1227, "text": " I was seeing some subtle stuff with that. I played Crimson Dragon and that..." }, { "start": 1227, "end": 1228, "text": " That game sucks." }, { "start": 1228, "end": 1230, "text": " It's horrible. That watches me no matter what." }, { "start": 1230, "end": 1235, "text": " So I was playing with Chris Plant. He's controlling the dragon and I'm doing the barrel rolls by going side to side." }, { "start": 1235, "end": 1238, "text": " Do you ever think out loud when you say sentences like that?" }, { "start": 1238, "end": 1240, "text": " Like, what is my job?" }, { "start": 1240, "end": 1241, "text": " No. Never." }, { "start": 1241, "end": 1242, "text": " Just checking." }, { "start": 1242, "end": 1243, "text": " No self-reflection here." }, { "start": 1243, "end": 1251, "text": " But in Forza, when he had the controller and I would try to go side to side, it wasn't detecting my lean." }, { "start": 1251, "end": 1258, "text": " So it's clear that software developers have the ability to kind of see who has the controller and be smarter in that sense, which is cool." }, { "start": 1258, "end": 1264, "text": " And then also when you set down the controller, like if you're watching a movie, it puts the controller in low power mode." }, { "start": 1264, "end": 1266, "text": " So you're going to sit like the battery lasts forever." }, { "start": 1266, "end": 1267, "text": " That's what the battery lasts forever." }, { "start": 1267, "end": 1269, "text": " So they're doing so many little cool things." }, { "start": 1269, "end": 1270, "text": " And I also just love..." }, { "start": 1270, "end": 1271, "text": " I think the controller is great too." }, { "start": 1271, "end": 1272, "text": " I haven't played much with the PlayStation 4." }, { "start": 1272, "end": 1277, "text": " Jumping out of a game instantly and then going into something else instantly." }, { "start": 1277, "end": 1282, "text": " And I don't care if it's TV. I don't really want it to be my TV." }, { "start": 1282, "end": 1287, "text": " But just jumping out and then saying something and you're into something else or snapping on a little web browser." }, { "start": 1287, "end": 1288, "text": " All that stuff is great." }, { "start": 1288, "end": 1289, "text": " I love that speed." }, { "start": 1289, "end": 1291, "text": " My browser gets really slow when you're playing a game." }, { "start": 1291, "end": 1292, "text": " Right now it's probably..." }, { "start": 1292, "end": 1293, "text": " I'm trying to think." }, { "start": 1293, "end": 1303, "text": " If I'm playing Grand Theft Auto and I want to watch Netflix, that's probably 15 to 20 button presses on my current 360." }, { "start": 1303, "end": 1306, "text": " That's crazy, but okay." }, { "start": 1306, "end": 1307, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1307, "end": 1309, "text": " You'd have to hit the center button." }, { "start": 1309, "end": 1310, "text": " By the way, it's a center button." }, { "start": 1310, "end": 1311, "text": " It's a center button." }, { "start": 1311, "end": 1312, "text": " Close the game." }, { "start": 1312, "end": 1313, "text": " I learned." }, { "start": 1313, "end": 1314, "text": " Confirm that you want to close the game." }, { "start": 1314, "end": 1316, "text": " Move over to your apps." }, { "start": 1316, "end": 1319, "text": " Go into apps and then go to Netflix." }, { "start": 1319, "end": 1320, "text": " It's a lot of work." }, { "start": 1320, "end": 1321, "text": " I learned the center button by the way." }, { "start": 1321, "end": 1323, "text": " Do you know what Microsoft names it?" }, { "start": 1323, "end": 1324, "text": " What?" }, { "start": 1324, "end": 1325, "text": " It's called the Nexus button." }, { "start": 1325, "end": 1326, "text": " No, it's not." }, { "start": 1326, "end": 1327, "text": " Yes, it is." }, { "start": 1327, "end": 1328, "text": " Long before the..." }, { "start": 1328, "end": 1329, "text": " Because the Xbox went around." }, { "start": 1329, "end": 1330, "text": " Nexus button." }, { "start": 1330, "end": 1331, "text": " All right." }, { "start": 1331, "end": 1332, "text": " That's what all the dudes call it." }, { "start": 1332, "end": 1333, "text": " Now I'm with you." }, { "start": 1333, "end": 1334, "text": " Listen to what I'm saying." }, { "start": 1334, "end": 1339, "text": " I think the Xbox One one day will be the one to get." }, { "start": 1339, "end": 1340, "text": " Without question." }, { "start": 1340, "end": 1342, "text": " Right at this moment, couldn't tell you." }, { "start": 1342, "end": 1343, "text": " Right?" }, { "start": 1343, "end": 1344, "text": " Pretty sure..." }, { "start": 1344, "end": 1345, "text": " Microsoft seems to be better at software." }, { "start": 1345, "end": 1346, "text": " Yeah, no." }, { "start": 1346, "end": 1347.4, "text": " And Sony is way better at hardware." }, { "start": 1347.4, "end": 1350.4, "text": " It's the..." }, { "start": 1350.4, "end": 1353, "text": " Sony's hardware is unquestionably more beautiful and better designed." }, { "start": 1353, "end": 1354, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 1354, "end": 1357.4, "text": " And what matters in a seven, eight, nine year cycle is the software." }, { "start": 1357.4, "end": 1358.4, "text": " Yeah, without question." }, { "start": 1358.4, "end": 1362.4, "text": " I mean, you could argue there's more headroom on the PS4, but that's like..." }, { "start": 1362.4, "end": 1366.16, "text": " That is some deep NeoGAF shit that I don't even want to begin to think about." }, { "start": 1366.16, "end": 1367.16, "text": " Right?" }, { "start": 1367.16, "end": 1368.36, "text": " What matters is that the software company is going to build..." }, { "start": 1368.36, "end": 1369.36, "text": " Deep NeoGAF." }, { "start": 1369.36, "end": 1370.36, "text": " Deep NeoGAF." }, { "start": 1370.36, "end": 1373.4, "text": " Not even touching it, man." }, { "start": 1373.4, "end": 1377.44, "text": " But what matters is they're good at software, they have a platform, they have the ability" }, { "start": 1377.44, "end": 1378.48, "text": " to get developers." }, { "start": 1378.48, "end": 1380.44, "text": " And I..." }, { "start": 1380.44, "end": 1382.92, "text": " Let me bold pronouncement by Neelay Patel." }, { "start": 1382.92, "end": 1383.92, "text": " Please do." }, { "start": 1383.92, "end": 1390.2, "text": " I think the platform potential of the Xbox One, assuming Microsoft can actually harness" }, { "start": 1390.2, "end": 1395.4, "text": " it, which is an enormous assumption, is equivalent to the platform potential of the iPhone." }, { "start": 1395.4, "end": 1396.4, "text": " What?" }, { "start": 1396.4, "end": 1397.4, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 1397.4, "end": 1398.4, "text": " Wow." }, { "start": 1398.4, "end": 1399.4, "text": " Because it's never been done before." }, { "start": 1399.4, "end": 1400.4, "text": " What?" }, { "start": 1400.4, "end": 1401.4, "text": " What other company can do it?" }, { "start": 1401.4, "end": 1402.4, "text": " What hasn't been done before?" }, { "start": 1402.4, "end": 1405.4, "text": " No, there's no open app development for the Xbox 360." }, { "start": 1405.4, "end": 1407.0800000000002, "text": " Yeah, that's true." }, { "start": 1407.0800000000002, "end": 1408.0800000000002, "text": " It's never..." }, { "start": 1408.0800000000002, "end": 1410.72, "text": " This thing that they're doing has never been done on television before." }, { "start": 1410.72, "end": 1411.72, "text": " That claim..." }, { "start": 1411.72, "end": 1413.0400000000002, "text": " The only other company that can do it is Apple." }, { "start": 1413.0400000000002, "end": 1414.52, "text": " That claim is..." }, { "start": 1414.52, "end": 1418.02, "text": " That's what I want to believe, but the fact that they haven't given us a coherent story" }, { "start": 1418.02, "end": 1422.3600000000001, "text": " yet has me afraid that they're just going to bungle it, they're not going to launch" }, { "start": 1422.3600000000001, "end": 1423.3600000000001, "text": " that kind of ecosystem." }, { "start": 1423.3600000000001, "end": 1424.3600000000001, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 1424.3600000000001, "end": 1427.3200000000002, "text": " And it's funny because they're not doing it on the other products that actually do..." }, { "start": 1427.3200000000002, "end": 1428.3200000000002, "text": " You know what I mean?" }, { "start": 1428.3200000000002, "end": 1429.3200000000002, "text": " Instagram doesn't take a photo." }, { "start": 1429.3200000000002, "end": 1430.3200000000002, "text": " Oh my God." }, { "start": 1430.3200000000002, "end": 1431.3200000000002, "text": " It's like..." }, { "start": 1431.3200000000002, "end": 1432.3200000000002, "text": " They got to..." }, { "start": 1432.32, "end": 1433.32, "text": " They got to..." }, { "start": 1433.32, "end": 1434.32, "text": " The potential is there." }, { "start": 1434.32, "end": 1435.32, "text": " This is like the classic Microsoft..." }, { "start": 1435.32, "end": 1439.84, "text": " If you look at the restraints that are on developers in Windows Phone and Windows 8," }, { "start": 1439.84, "end": 1444.04, "text": " you know, those are holding back the quality of the apps or have so far." }, { "start": 1444.04, "end": 1445.04, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 1445.04, "end": 1446.84, "text": " Well, no, I mean, we should just get right into this." }, { "start": 1446.84, "end": 1449.1599999999999, "text": " Are there any other Xbox things to say?" }, { "start": 1449.1599999999999, "end": 1450.1599999999999, "text": " Probably not." }, { "start": 1450.1599999999999, "end": 1451.1599999999999, "text": " No." }, { "start": 1451.1599999999999, "end": 1452.1599999999999, "text": " You see what I did there with that?" }, { "start": 1452.1599999999999, "end": 1453.1599999999999, "text": " Transition." }, { "start": 1453.1599999999999, "end": 1454.1599999999999, "text": " Good." }, { "start": 1454.1599999999999, "end": 1457.1599999999999, "text": " Did you just make your own transition sound effect?" }, { "start": 1457.1599999999999, "end": 1458.1599999999999, "text": " Transition." }, { "start": 1458.1599999999999, "end": 1459.1599999999999, "text": " Transition." }, { "start": 1459.1599999999999, "end": 1462.1599999999999, "text": " I can't restate that." }, { "start": 1462.16, "end": 1463.16, "text": " It's goodbye." }, { "start": 1463.16, "end": 1464.16, "text": " What?" }, { "start": 1464.16, "end": 1466.16, "text": " It worked out." }, { "start": 1466.16, "end": 1468.0800000000002, "text": " Instagram on the Windows Phone." }, { "start": 1468.0800000000002, "end": 1469.0800000000002, "text": " Do we have one here?" }, { "start": 1469.0800000000002, "end": 1470.0800000000002, "text": " Yeah, we got one right here." }, { "start": 1470.0800000000002, "end": 1471.0800000000002, "text": " Oh." }, { "start": 1471.0800000000002, "end": 1472.0800000000002, "text": " Oh, we have this monster." }, { "start": 1472.0800000000002, "end": 1473.0800000000002, "text": " Is this a..." }, { "start": 1473.0800000000002, "end": 1474.0800000000002, "text": " My God." }, { "start": 1474.0800000000002, "end": 1475.0800000000002, "text": " So that is..." }, { "start": 1475.0800000000002, "end": 1476.0800000000002, "text": " First of all, that is the Lumia 1520." }, { "start": 1476.0800000000002, "end": 1477.0800000000002, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1477.0800000000002, "end": 1478.0800000000002, "text": " And I have to say..." }, { "start": 1478.0800000000002, "end": 1479.0800000000002, "text": " Here's all you need to know." }, { "start": 1479.0800000000002, "end": 1480.0800000000002, "text": " It is comically large." }, { "start": 1480.0800000000002, "end": 1485.64, "text": " You know how the unlock and lock button on phones are sometimes on the top or on the" }, { "start": 1485.64, "end": 1487.8600000000001, "text": " top side?" }, { "start": 1487.8600000000001, "end": 1489.6000000000001, "text": " This is where it's on this phone." }, { "start": 1489.6, "end": 1493.56, "text": " And that explains perfectly how large this is." }, { "start": 1493.56, "end": 1495.56, "text": " Like, okay, here's..." }, { "start": 1495.56, "end": 1496.56, "text": " Wow!" }, { "start": 1496.56, "end": 1497.56, "text": " This is it." }, { "start": 1497.56, "end": 1498.56, "text": " This is what I wanted." }, { "start": 1498.56, "end": 1499.56, "text": " Here's a Nexus 5, which is not a small phone." }, { "start": 1499.56, "end": 1501.04, "text": " Just reaction shots of Paul playing with things." }, { "start": 1501.04, "end": 1502.32, "text": " It's like the same." }, { "start": 1502.32, "end": 1507.8, "text": " Like if you were a mathematician and you measured from here to here and then here to here, that" }, { "start": 1507.8, "end": 1511.1999999999998, "text": " would be the same as measuring from here to here to here." }, { "start": 1511.1999999999998, "end": 1514.7199999999998, "text": " Paul, I have just one very simple question." }, { "start": 1514.7199999999998, "end": 1515.7199999999998, "text": " No, I'm not a mathematician." }, { "start": 1515.7199999999998, "end": 1518.7199999999998, "text": " Why would you need to be a mathematician to do that?" }, { "start": 1518.72, "end": 1519.72, "text": " Look, I'm working on it." }, { "start": 1519.72, "end": 1524.72, "text": " I've been studying some calculus and precalculus on Khan Academy." }, { "start": 1524.72, "end": 1525.72, "text": " And I promise you..." }, { "start": 1525.72, "end": 1530.72, "text": " But no, I'm asking why would it require a mathematician to measure the perimeter of" }, { "start": 1530.72, "end": 1531.72, "text": " I-10 geometry?" }, { "start": 1531.72, "end": 1532.72, "text": " I'm currently doing geometry." }, { "start": 1532.72, "end": 1533.72, "text": " Like, okay, that's cool." }, { "start": 1533.72, "end": 1534.72, "text": " All right, I'll measure them." }, { "start": 1534.72, "end": 1535.72, "text": " Oh my God." }, { "start": 1535.72, "end": 1536.72, "text": " I got that far." }, { "start": 1536.72, "end": 1537.72, "text": " And then one of those." }, { "start": 1537.72, "end": 1538.72, "text": " This is riveting television." }, { "start": 1538.72, "end": 1539.72, "text": " One of those." }, { "start": 1539.72, "end": 1540.72, "text": " Paul estimating measurements." }, { "start": 1540.72, "end": 1541.72, "text": " Paul, you just moved your fingers, man." }, { "start": 1541.72, "end": 1542.72, "text": " Come on." }, { "start": 1542.72, "end": 1543.72, "text": " Come on." }, { "start": 1543.72, "end": 1544.72, "text": " Come on." }, { "start": 1544.72, "end": 1545.72, "text": " Come on." }, { "start": 1545.72, "end": 1546.72, "text": " Come on." }, { "start": 1546.72, "end": 1547.72, "text": " Come on." }, { "start": 1547.72, "end": 1548.72, "text": " I'm not a mathematician." }, { "start": 1548.72, "end": 1549.72, "text": " I'm not a mathematician." }, { "start": 1549.72, "end": 1550.72, "text": " I'm talking about..." }, { "start": 1550.72, "end": 1553.88, "text": " I'm copying on it, all right?" }, { "start": 1553.88, "end": 1555.44, "text": " So here's the thing about the 1520." }, { "start": 1555.44, "end": 1557.8, "text": " Let's start with the 1520 and then we'll talk about it." }, { "start": 1557.8, "end": 1558.8, "text": " This happened on the mobile show." }, { "start": 1558.8, "end": 1559.8, "text": " The world's largest object." }, { "start": 1559.8, "end": 1563.28, "text": " The 1520, the review of it, Dan wrote it's very good." }, { "start": 1563.28, "end": 1567.96, "text": " It was the first time we used the word phablet without apologizing for it immediately on" }, { "start": 1567.96, "end": 1568.96, "text": " the version." }, { "start": 1568.96, "end": 1569.96, "text": " Yeah, because it's very clearly what it is." }, { "start": 1569.96, "end": 1570.96, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1570.96, "end": 1571.96, "text": " It's so big." }, { "start": 1571.96, "end": 1572.96, "text": " Here's what I don't understand." }, { "start": 1572.96, "end": 1573.96, "text": " It's so really big." }, { "start": 1573.96, "end": 1578.3600000000001, "text": " Can I just... here's a plea to all manufacturers of all devices." }, { "start": 1578.3600000000001, "end": 1580.56, "text": " Don't make glossy plastic backs." }, { "start": 1580.56, "end": 1581.56, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1581.56, "end": 1582.56, "text": " Right?" }, { "start": 1582.56, "end": 1585.64, "text": " Like particularly when they're like curved like this, there's something like that kind" }, { "start": 1585.64, "end": 1586.96, "text": " of glossy." }, { "start": 1586.96, "end": 1588.16, "text": " There's a glossy that maybe works." }, { "start": 1588.16, "end": 1589.52, "text": " It's a little duller." }, { "start": 1589.52, "end": 1591.88, "text": " That glossy makes it look really cheap." }, { "start": 1591.88, "end": 1594.04, "text": " That's... and Nokia makes..." }, { "start": 1594.04, "end": 1597.08, "text": " It does feel really solid, but it's a little slimy." }, { "start": 1597.08, "end": 1598.08, "text": " It's super slimy." }, { "start": 1598.08, "end": 1599.08, "text": " It's like just don't..." }, { "start": 1599.08, "end": 1602.08, "text": " I've seen Nokia make beautiful plastic phones." }, { "start": 1602.08, "end": 1603.88, "text": " Check out this awesome picture I took of Dieter." }, { "start": 1603.88, "end": 1604.88, "text": " Wow." }, { "start": 1604.88, "end": 1605.88, "text": " That is just..." }, { "start": 1605.88, "end": 1606.88, "text": " And I posted the dance Instagram." }, { "start": 1606.88, "end": 1611.92, "text": " Can I just say the size of the interface is so comically huge on that phone." }, { "start": 1611.92, "end": 1613.2800000000002, "text": " They've accomplished nothing." }, { "start": 1613.2800000000002, "end": 1617.4, "text": " They made a huge screen and the interface just scales up." }, { "start": 1617.4, "end": 1621.8600000000001, "text": " It's like if you wanted to like have a demo of... like if you walk into a Best Buy and" }, { "start": 1621.8600000000001, "end": 1626.5200000000002, "text": " there's like a kiosk and it's like an extra large version of something just so that you" }, { "start": 1626.5200000000002, "end": 1627.5200000000002, "text": " can understand." }, { "start": 1627.5200000000002, "end": 1628.5200000000002, "text": " It's like a fake phone." }, { "start": 1628.5200000000002, "end": 1629.5200000000002, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1629.5200000000002, "end": 1633.5200000000002, "text": " It's like this is what phones are like if you get really close." }, { "start": 1633.52, "end": 1635.24, "text": " We're just trying to..." }, { "start": 1635.24, "end": 1636.24, "text": " Wow." }, { "start": 1636.24, "end": 1637.24, "text": " I mean, whatever." }, { "start": 1637.24, "end": 1638.24, "text": " It's a Windows phone." }, { "start": 1638.24, "end": 1639.24, "text": " It's 1080p." }, { "start": 1639.24, "end": 1640.24, "text": " Tell me all about it." }, { "start": 1640.24, "end": 1641.24, "text": " It has Instagram." }, { "start": 1641.24, "end": 1645.44, "text": " No, the big thing is it's got the new version of Windows phone that is supposed to deal" }, { "start": 1645.44, "end": 1649.36, "text": " with the fact that the screen is gigantic and it can also be 1080p." }, { "start": 1649.36, "end": 1650.76, "text": " And they didn't quite go far enough." }, { "start": 1650.76, "end": 1655.16, "text": " You can add more rows of tiles and some of the core apps have got like... have been tweaked" }, { "start": 1655.16, "end": 1657.04, "text": " to fit more crap on the screen." }, { "start": 1657.04, "end": 1658.04, "text": " Dude, open that keyboard." }, { "start": 1658.04, "end": 1662.44, "text": " But way too often you're just looking at stuff that's just huge." }, { "start": 1662.44, "end": 1664.56, "text": " There are more tiles on here." }, { "start": 1664.56, "end": 1665.56, "text": " Oh yeah." }, { "start": 1665.56, "end": 1666.56, "text": " The keyboard is gigantic." }, { "start": 1666.56, "end": 1670.4, "text": " When you open up the keyboard, it goes up half the screen." }, { "start": 1670.4, "end": 1672.8, "text": " Come on, man." }, { "start": 1672.8, "end": 1673.8, "text": " I think it's taller." }, { "start": 1673.8, "end": 1674.8, "text": " Test Dignity." }, { "start": 1674.8, "end": 1678, "text": " The keyboard on this phone I think is taller than the keyboard on the Nexus 7 tablet." }, { "start": 1678, "end": 1679.8600000000001, "text": " I think it's bigger than an iPhone." }, { "start": 1679.8600000000001, "end": 1682.04, "text": " It's taller than it's like an iPhone in landscape." }, { "start": 1682.04, "end": 1687.0800000000002, "text": " You're going to measure it?" }, { "start": 1687.0800000000002, "end": 1688.0800000000002, "text": " Like I said..." }, { "start": 1688.0800000000002, "end": 1689.92, "text": " That is ridiculous." }, { "start": 1689.92, "end": 1690.92, "text": " Not a mathematician." }, { "start": 1690.92, "end": 1695.64, "text": " That is just openly ridiculous." }, { "start": 1695.64, "end": 1701.3200000000002, "text": " Open... so the words... that's why that big black bar is up there all the time." }, { "start": 1701.3200000000002, "end": 1704.64, "text": " Because you know what you need when you're using a gigantic six inch phone?" }, { "start": 1704.64, "end": 1705.64, "text": " Openly..." }, { "start": 1705.64, "end": 1709.16, "text": " It's for the keyboard to take up so much screen real estate, you're left with like two inches" }, { "start": 1709.16, "end": 1711.64, "text": " of actual content at the top." }, { "start": 1711.64, "end": 1712.64, "text": " Openly ridiculous." }, { "start": 1712.64, "end": 1713.64, "text": " Good." }, { "start": 1713.64, "end": 1714.64, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1714.64, "end": 1715.64, "text": " All right." }, { "start": 1715.64, "end": 1716.64, "text": " Anything else to say about the 1520?" }, { "start": 1716.64, "end": 1717.64, "text": " I mean, it's a Windows phone." }, { "start": 1717.64, "end": 1718.64, "text": " It's a Windows phone." }, { "start": 1718.64, "end": 1720.64, "text": " And like the other thing I'll say, like the phablet thing..." }, { "start": 1720.64, "end": 1724.48, "text": " I'm sorry Dan for using your phone, your Instagram." }, { "start": 1724.48, "end": 1727.96, "text": " It's no longer okay to just complain about big phones for being big, I think." }, { "start": 1727.96, "end": 1728.96, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 1728.96, "end": 1730.1200000000001, "text": " Because they're here." }, { "start": 1730.1200000000001, "end": 1731.8400000000001, "text": " And there's a Sony one we did." }, { "start": 1731.8400000000001, "end": 1732.8400000000001, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1732.8400000000001, "end": 1733.8400000000001, "text": " Did we do it already?" }, { "start": 1733.8400000000001, "end": 1734.8400000000001, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 1734.8400000000001, "end": 1737.2, "text": " Well, there's a gigantic Sony one." }, { "start": 1737.2, "end": 1738.2, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1738.2, "end": 1739.2, "text": " In the Z Ultra." }, { "start": 1739.2, "end": 1742.6000000000001, "text": " In the Z Ultra, which is also ridiculous." }, { "start": 1742.6000000000001, "end": 1743.6000000000001, "text": " It's like it's bigger than a pint glass." }, { "start": 1743.6000000000001, "end": 1746.6000000000001, "text": " I took a picture of it the other day, an extra pint glass." }, { "start": 1746.6000000000001, "end": 1747.6000000000001, "text": " And it's just like why?" }, { "start": 1747.6, "end": 1750.84, "text": " And that one, so Paul..." }, { "start": 1750.84, "end": 1751.84, "text": " Fits." }, { "start": 1751.84, "end": 1752.84, "text": " Fits in my pocket." }, { "start": 1752.84, "end": 1753.84, "text": " Paul, is that a 1520 in your pocket?" }, { "start": 1753.84, "end": 1756.7199999999998, "text": " The answer to why is because." }, { "start": 1756.7199999999998, "end": 1760.1999999999998, "text": " Because like because people like big screens and it's nicer to have a big screen." }, { "start": 1760.1999999999998, "end": 1761.1999999999998, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1761.1999999999998, "end": 1763.7199999999998, "text": " I mean, I get, but it's, I don't want a screen that big." }, { "start": 1763.7199999999998, "end": 1765.56, "text": " Well, that's why you have an iPhone." }, { "start": 1765.56, "end": 1766.56, "text": " That's true." }, { "start": 1766.56, "end": 1771.32, "text": " But I also have like other, like my HTC One has a big screen." }, { "start": 1771.32, "end": 1774.48, "text": " The Nexus 5, again, I'm qualified." }, { "start": 1774.48, "end": 1775.8999999999999, "text": " Only the black Nexus 5 is cool." }, { "start": 1775.9, "end": 1778.48, "text": " The other one, I don't even want to talk about it." }, { "start": 1778.48, "end": 1779.48, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1779.48, "end": 1781.44, "text": " Wait, what just happened?" }, { "start": 1781.44, "end": 1782.76, "text": " Like I like those screens." }, { "start": 1782.76, "end": 1784.92, "text": " Something happened to the colors and they went all like..." }, { "start": 1784.92, "end": 1787.8000000000002, "text": " Every time I'm in a car in New York and I pay the driver..." }, { "start": 1787.8000000000002, "end": 1793.3200000000002, "text": " All the colors were like, it went down to like 256 total colors on the screen." }, { "start": 1793.3200000000002, "end": 1794.3200000000002, "text": " Just now?" }, { "start": 1794.3200000000002, "end": 1795.3200000000002, "text": " And then like it came back." }, { "start": 1795.3200000000002, "end": 1797.72, "text": " It looked like everything was made in MS Paint." }, { "start": 1797.72, "end": 1799.0800000000002, "text": " So we should talk about Instagram." }, { "start": 1799.0800000000002, "end": 1800.0800000000002, "text": " Clear black technology." }, { "start": 1800.0800000000002, "end": 1802.3200000000002, "text": " Is that now you're living in the X reality." }, { "start": 1802.3200000000002, "end": 1803.3200000000002, "text": " Yeah, I guess so." }, { "start": 1803.3200000000002, "end": 1804.3200000000002, "text": " I just like using..." }, { "start": 1804.32, "end": 1808.12, "text": " So on Instagram, you take a picture and it sends you to your actual camera roll." }, { "start": 1808.12, "end": 1809.3999999999999, "text": " Yeah, so Instagram is a..." }, { "start": 1809.3999999999999, "end": 1811.12, "text": " There was a cluster of misinformation." }, { "start": 1811.12, "end": 1813.12, "text": " Dieter, you want to walk us through it?" }, { "start": 1813.12, "end": 1819.3799999999999, "text": " So okay, coming, hooray, gets released and they tell us it won't do video and it won't" }, { "start": 1819.3799999999999, "end": 1822.36, "text": " take pictures directly inside the app." }, { "start": 1822.36, "end": 1824.4399999999998, "text": " It's like, well, that's insane." }, { "start": 1824.4399999999998, "end": 1825.86, "text": " It'll only take you to the camera roll." }, { "start": 1825.86, "end": 1829.1599999999999, "text": " But then it turns out that you can go into the camera roll and then within the camera" }, { "start": 1829.1599999999999, "end": 1833.32, "text": " roll, you can hit the camera button to launch the native camera interface to take the picture." }, { "start": 1833.32, "end": 1837.8799999999999, "text": " And then it kicks you back into Instagram to edit the picture and put your filters on." }, { "start": 1837.8799999999999, "end": 1838.96, "text": " That all happens pretty fast." }, { "start": 1838.96, "end": 1842.6799999999998, "text": " The 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"end": 1882.92, "text": " Well, that's like a Nokia." }, { "start": 1882.92, "end": 1883.92, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1883.92, "end": 1886.72, "text": " But their claim is that like they've done so much work on their camera app." }, { "start": 1886.72, "end": 1889.16, "text": " They don't want you to use Instagram's crappy interface." }, { "start": 1889.16, "end": 1894.0800000000002, "text": " They want you to use the magical, you know, Windows phone interface to take your picture," }, { "start": 1894.0800000000002, "end": 1895.1200000000001, "text": " which is fine." }, { "start": 1895.1200000000001, "end": 1896.72, "text": " It's just like, it's an extra button." }, { "start": 1896.72, "end": 1897.72, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1897.72, "end": 1901.4, "text": " I mean, it's just one of those things, you know, and Tom ran this report because they" }, { "start": 1901.4, "end": 1902.4, "text": " have Vine now too." }, { "start": 1902.4, "end": 1903.4, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1903.4, "end": 1905.52, "text": " And it's like, have they turned the corner in the..." }, { "start": 1905.52, "end": 1908.0400000000002, "text": " No, they said they think they've turned the corner." }, { "start": 1908.0400000000002, "end": 1909.52, "text": " Microsoft literally said, we've turned the corner on apps." }, { "start": 1909.52, "end": 1910.52, "text": " We're good now." }, { "start": 1910.52, "end": 1912.52, "text": " Well, it's because you can't complain about not having Instagram anymore." }, { "start": 1912.52, "end": 1916.3200000000002, "text": " Well, which was the poster child of like when people complain about Windows phone doesn't" }, { "start": 1916.3200000000002, "end": 1918.3200000000002, "text": " have apps, like what apps don't they have?" }, { "start": 1918.32, "end": 1919.32, "text": " Instagram." }, { "start": 1919.32, "end": 1920.32, "text": " That was always the one." }, { "start": 1920.32, "end": 1924.6, "text": " And I personally was like, and 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and they're" }, { "start": 1944.6399999999999, "end": 1947.9199999999998, "text": " not getting as many frequent updates and features aren't necessarily coming first to Windows" }, { "start": 1947.92, "end": 1948.92, "text": " phone." }, { "start": 1948.92, "end": 1952.8000000000002, "text": " So Instagram, sorry, is still the perfect example of what Microsoft needs to do to like" }, { "start": 1952.8000000000002, "end": 1955, "text": " get its platform up to parity." }, { "start": 1955, "end": 1958.18, "text": " You're getting there in numbers, you're getting there on first party titles, but now you need" }, { "start": 1958.18, "end": 1962.52, "text": " those first party titles to feel as awesome or better than they are on other platforms." }, { "start": 1962.52, "end": 1965.68, "text": " I also need the animations to be faster." }, { "start": 1965.68, "end": 1970.3600000000001, "text": " And when this found an iOS network in the race for the most appallingly slow animation" }, { "start": 1970.3600000000001, "end": 1974.14, "text": " to do, it's like, I'm going to go to my home screen." }, { "start": 1974.14, "end": 1975.14, "text": " Here it is." }, { "start": 1975.14, "end": 1976.14, "text": " I'm going to open." }, { "start": 1976.14, "end": 1981.44, "text": " What if there's somebody in Cupertino that's like holding down the shift key." }, { "start": 1981.44, "end": 1982.44, "text": " That's what I said." }, { "start": 1982.44, "end": 1986.44, "text": " When I was seven first came out, I thought all those demos were shift key demos." }, { "start": 1986.44, "end": 1989.4, "text": " It's like cats been sitting on the shift key this whole time." }, { "start": 1989.4, "end": 1995.2, "text": " All of a sudden he notices, gets his cat off the shift key and also everything so fast." }, { "start": 1995.2, "end": 2000.48, "text": " But literally the iOS seven animation did not bug me until you guys started complaining" }, { "start": 2000.48, "end": 2001.48, "text": " about it on the podcast." }, { "start": 2001.48, "end": 2005.88, "text": " I've been using iOS seven forever and I did not bug me." }, { "start": 2005.88, "end": 2009.0800000000002, "text": " You know, just as your friend, you've been living in a more relaxed pace." }, { "start": 2009.0800000000002, "end": 2010.0800000000002, "text": " I don't matter." }, { "start": 2010.0800000000002, "end": 2014.44, "text": " I'm just saying you've been, you've been, uh, I'm pretty relaxed here." }, { "start": 2014.44, "end": 2015.44, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2015.44, "end": 2016.44, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 2016.44, "end": 2021.8000000000002, "text": " But I have, I've been learning a lot about programming and the way you make windows," }, { "start": 2021.8000000000002, "end": 2031.0800000000002, "text": " uh, phone apps and windows eight apps and Xbox apps is very similar to the process that" }, { "start": 2031.08, "end": 2039.24, "text": " you go through if you want to make an HTML five app that is then magically by some framework" }, { "start": 2039.24, "end": 2040.6399999999999, "text": " ported to all the phones." }, { "start": 2040.6399999999999, "end": 2041.6399999999999, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 2041.6399999999999, "end": 2042.6399999999999, "text": " That's their whole game." }, { "start": 2042.6399999999999, "end": 2043.6399999999999, "text": " That was Palm's game." }, { "start": 2043.6399999999999, "end": 2044.6399999999999, "text": " Once upon a time, remember?" }, { "start": 2044.6399999999999, "end": 2045.6399999999999, "text": " I'm Palm." }, { "start": 2045.6399999999999, "end": 2046.6399999999999, "text": " Oh, yeah." }, { "start": 2046.6399999999999, "end": 2047.6399999999999, "text": " Talk to me about Palm." }, { "start": 2047.6399999999999, "end": 2048.64, "text": " Remember they're cuddly." }, { "start": 2048.64, "end": 2052.84, "text": " Then they got bought and sold 15 times and so they were murdered by a man named Leo." }, { "start": 2052.84, "end": 2055.44, "text": " Look at this guy trolling me right now." }, { "start": 2055.44, "end": 2062.68, "text": " You get kind of, you get kind of a somewhat, uh, not necessarily hamstrung, but maybe awkward" }, { "start": 2062.68, "end": 2067.16, "text": " API to the native features of the phone." }, { "start": 2067.16, "end": 2072.5, "text": " Well, there's multiple channels, so you can do that kind of app that is the XML stuff," }, { "start": 2072.5, "end": 2076, "text": " or you can do like the game that's like hard coded to the Silicon." }, { "start": 2076, "end": 2077.2000000000003, "text": " You can, you can do it both ways." }, { "start": 2077.2000000000003, "end": 2079.04, "text": " It's just like the default way is that." }, { "start": 2079.04, "end": 2080.04, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 2080.04, "end": 2085.32, "text": " But if you're going to create something like Instagram and you plug in access to the camera," }, { "start": 2085.32, "end": 2090.2400000000002, "text": " it is very similar to when you're making a website that accesses your computer camera." }, { "start": 2090.2400000000002, "end": 2091.2400000000002, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2091.2400000000002, "end": 2093.6000000000004, "text": " And as long as it's fast, that's actually, you can develop stuff faster." }, { "start": 2093.6000000000004, "end": 2096.1200000000003, "text": " If that really, really, really, really worked, that would be great." }, { "start": 2096.1200000000003, "end": 2097.44, "text": " But I still don't think we're there." }, { "start": 2097.44, "end": 2098.44, "text": " No." }, { "start": 2098.44, "end": 2101.8, "text": " And like if you, if you see like, you know, just the whole thing of Facebook going from" }, { "start": 2101.8, "end": 2106.6400000000003, "text": " an HTML five thing to a native app, there are just still some really strong advantages" }, { "start": 2106.6400000000003, "end": 2107.6400000000003, "text": " to native apps." }, { "start": 2107.6400000000003, "end": 2108.6400000000003, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2108.6400000000003, "end": 2109.6400000000003, "text": " And I don't think windows." }, { "start": 2109.6400000000003, "end": 2113.28, "text": " Well, I will say windows phone has done a better job at that sort of development process" }, { "start": 2113.28, "end": 2114.28, "text": " than anybody else." }, { "start": 2114.28, "end": 2115.28, "text": " Sure." }, { "start": 2115.28, "end": 2116.28, "text": " I agree with that." }, { "start": 2116.28, "end": 2117.28, "text": " But yeah." }, { "start": 2117.28, "end": 2121.1600000000003, "text": " Can we talk about the other big windows story of the day, which is like my favorite story" }, { "start": 2121.1600000000003, "end": 2122.1600000000003, "text": " of all time?" }, { "start": 2122.1600000000003, "end": 2123.1600000000003, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 2123.1600000000003, "end": 2126.36, "text": " Microsoft is now selling screwed gold branded merchandise." }, { "start": 2126.36, "end": 2127.36, "text": " What?" }, { "start": 2127.36, "end": 2128.36, "text": " Are you aware of this?" }, { "start": 2128.36, "end": 2129.36, "text": " No." }, { "start": 2129.36, "end": 2130.36, "text": " It's amazing." }, { "start": 2130.36, "end": 2131.92, "text": " So they opened a store, Microsoft, it's a company." }, { "start": 2131.92, "end": 2132.92, "text": " It's like on their website." }, { "start": 2132.92, "end": 2133.92, "text": " It's like store.microsoft.com." }, { "start": 2133.92, "end": 2134.92, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2134.92, "end": 2135.92, "text": " Uh, slash screwed gold." }, { "start": 2135.92, "end": 2136.92, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2136.92, "end": 2137.92, "text": " Bring it up on the big screen." }, { "start": 2137.92, "end": 2138.92, "text": " Uh, I don't know." }, { "start": 2138.92, "end": 2139.92, "text": " Oh, screwed gold." }, { "start": 2139.92, "end": 2140.92, "text": " Oh yeah." }, { "start": 2140.92, "end": 2144.92, "text": " Uh, and then you can like get t-shirts that say, keep calm." }, { "start": 2144.92, "end": 2149.6800000000003, "text": " And while we steal your data with a Chrome logo on them, Microsoft in a beef with, with" }, { "start": 2149.6800000000003, "end": 2153.76, "text": " Google is like, is like your dad in a rap battle." }, { "start": 2153.76, "end": 2156.7200000000003, "text": " Well, so I've heard, um, I've heard a couple of theories about this." }, { "start": 2156.7200000000003, "end": 2157.7200000000003, "text": " One." }, { "start": 2157.7200000000003, "end": 2160.6, "text": " So one, I think this is like, they're using the Chrome logo all over the place, which," }, { "start": 2160.6, "end": 2163.64, "text": " uh, I think it's very obviously like parody, right?" }, { "start": 2163.64, "end": 2166.7200000000003, "text": " Like this, no one's going to confuse these for Google products, right?" }, { "start": 2166.7200000000003, "end": 2167.7200000000003, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 2167.7200000000003, "end": 2169.52, "text": " No one's going to confuse this for like a Chrome thing." }, { "start": 2169.52, "end": 2173.42, "text": " But the theory that's been floating around on Twitter is that Microsoft is waiting for" }, { "start": 2173.42, "end": 2178.12, "text": " Google to bait them with like a cease and desist letter so they can be like, Google's" }, { "start": 2178.12, "end": 2179.34, "text": " an evil company." }, { "start": 2179.34, "end": 2181.32, "text": " It's really intensely bad." }, { "start": 2181.32, "end": 2182.32, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2182.32, "end": 2183.32, "text": " It's really bad." }, { "start": 2183.32, "end": 2184.32, "text": " Like it's, it's super hilarious." }, { "start": 2184.32, "end": 2185.32, "text": " And like immature." }, { "start": 2185.32, "end": 2188.7200000000003, "text": " And Google's response is really good is a competition in the wearable space is heating" }, { "start": 2188.7200000000003, "end": 2189.7200000000003, "text": " up." }, { "start": 2189.7200000000003, "end": 2191.64, "text": " Like this is stuff that you sell on like ThinkGeek." }, { "start": 2191.64, "end": 2192.64, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2192.64, "end": 2193.64, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2193.64, "end": 2195.96, "text": " Microsoft's latest venture comes as no surprise." }, { "start": 2195.96, "end": 2198.16, "text": " Competition in the wearable space is really heating up." }, { "start": 2198.16, "end": 2199.16, "text": " That's amazing." }, { "start": 2199.16, "end": 2202.16, "text": " But I just think there's like an element." }, { "start": 2202.16, "end": 2205.12, "text": " The jokes are bad and the products are like whatever." }, { "start": 2205.12, "end": 2207.6, "text": " Like it's, I think it's funny." }, { "start": 2207.6, "end": 2212.68, "text": " The problem that I have with this Google thing is, you know, people that still spell Microsoft" }, { "start": 2212.68, "end": 2215, "text": " with a dollar sign instead of an S. Oh, I know those people." }, { "start": 2215, "end": 2216, "text": " I know where they are." }, { "start": 2216, "end": 2217, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2217, "end": 2218.3199999999997, "text": " I can find them in a moment's notice." }, { "start": 2218.3199999999997, "end": 2220.44, "text": " This feels like the exact mirror image of that." }, { "start": 2220.44, "end": 2221.64, "text": " It's like, it's not funny." }, { "start": 2221.64, "end": 2222.64, "text": " It's not whatever." }, { "start": 2222.64, "end": 2225.8799999999997, "text": " Like, yeah, you've got a point, but come on." }, { "start": 2225.8799999999997, "end": 2226.8799999999997, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2226.8799999999997, "end": 2229.16, "text": " Also, by the way, outlook serves ads when you use it like outlook.com." }, { "start": 2229.16, "end": 2232.92, "text": " Yeah, I think it's ads on it, but they're just saying it's just a thing that they have." }, { "start": 2232.92, "end": 2235.2799999999997, "text": " It's just a free mail service served by ads." }, { "start": 2235.2799999999997, "end": 2237.52, "text": " It's, it's, this is absurd." }, { "start": 2237.52, "end": 2238.52, "text": " This is absurd." }, { "start": 2238.52, "end": 2239.52, "text": " I just think it's really funny." }, { "start": 2239.52, "end": 2240.52, "text": " I like that Microsoft has some attitude." }, { "start": 2240.52, "end": 2241.52, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2241.52, "end": 2242.52, "text": " You know what I mean?" }, { "start": 2242.52, "end": 2243.52, "text": " Like I'm into it." }, { "start": 2243.52, "end": 2244.52, "text": " You know, a little attitude." }, { "start": 2244.52, "end": 2245.52, "text": " They're like, they're out there, they're fighting." }, { "start": 2245.52, "end": 2246.52, "text": " They got attitude." }, { "start": 2246.52, "end": 2247.52, "text": " I just wish they had taste." }, { "start": 2247.52, "end": 2248.52, "text": " Check out our giant phone." }, { "start": 2248.52, "end": 2249.52, "text": " It won't screw with you." }, { "start": 2249.52, "end": 2250.52, "text": " Huh?" }, { "start": 2250.52, "end": 2251.52, "text": " It's fine." }, { "start": 2251.52, "end": 2252.52, "text": " That's cool." }, { "start": 2252.52, "end": 2253.52, "text": " We got Instagram." }, { "start": 2253.52, "end": 2254.52, "text": " Camera things." }, { "start": 2254.52, "end": 2257.52, "text": " You only do this when you're behind and scared." }, { "start": 2257.52, "end": 2260.72, "text": " Like you never do this from a position of power." }, { "start": 2260.72, "end": 2261.72, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2261.72, "end": 2263.36, "text": " You don't make fun of this is how you attack people with power." }, { "start": 2263.36, "end": 2268.44, "text": " And this is like you said, this is how people have attacked Microsoft forever." }, { "start": 2268.44, "end": 2270.56, "text": " I'm sure that there's a bunch of old Microsoft." }, { "start": 2270.56, "end": 2273.12, "text": " This is Steve Ballmer on his way out being like, you know what?" }, { "start": 2273.12, "end": 2275.32, "text": " Actually they did it to me." }, { "start": 2275.32, "end": 2280.04, "text": " The the school shirt with the trench coat and the, the, the hat with the, it says I'm" }, { "start": 2280.04, "end": 2281.04, "text": " watching you." }, { "start": 2281.04, "end": 2282.04, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2282.04, "end": 2283.04, "text": " That's actually kind of cool." }, { "start": 2283.04, "end": 2284.04, "text": " Oh good." }, { "start": 2284.04, "end": 2285.04, "text": " Oh, they're clever." }, { "start": 2285.04, "end": 2287.36, "text": " There's a, there's an element of cleverness to this." }, { "start": 2287.36, "end": 2291.52, "text": " But it's like, this should be, there is no element of cleverness." }, { "start": 2291.52, "end": 2292.52, "text": " I'm watching you." }, { "start": 2292.52, "end": 2293.52, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2293.52, "end": 2294.52, "text": " It's like a, it's like a joke." }, { "start": 2294.52, "end": 2297.88, "text": " We got a hilarious, if you scroll down, you got a bigger image of it." }, { "start": 2297.88, "end": 2298.88, "text": " Oh my gosh." }, { "start": 2298.88, "end": 2299.88, "text": " Come on." }, { "start": 2299.88, "end": 2300.88, "text": " Look, that's awesome." }, { "start": 2300.88, "end": 2301.88, "text": " It's like Chrome." }, { "start": 2301.88, "end": 2302.88, "text": " He's there." }, { "start": 2302.88, "end": 2304.88, "text": " It's a who it's a guy from Watchmen." }, { "start": 2304.88, "end": 2307.7200000000003, "text": " Oh, uh, uh, damn it." }, { "start": 2307.7200000000003, "end": 2308.96, "text": " You made me forget." }, { "start": 2308.96, "end": 2309.96, "text": " It's my secret power." }, { "start": 2309.96, "end": 2310.96, "text": " It's worse." }, { "start": 2310.96, "end": 2311.96, "text": " We're a sec." }, { "start": 2311.96, "end": 2313.28, "text": " You didn't get come up that with yourself." }, { "start": 2313.28, "end": 2317.1600000000003, "text": " Now I got some, I just watched that movie." }, { "start": 2317.16, "end": 2320.72, "text": " John, could you just follow me around all the time and talk in my ear when I'm about" }, { "start": 2320.72, "end": 2322.72, "text": " to say something stupid?" }, { "start": 2322.72, "end": 2323.72, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 2323.72, "end": 2324.72, "text": " Well, great." }, { "start": 2324.72, "end": 2326.72, "text": " John, not now he's not paying attention." }, { "start": 2326.72, "end": 2327.92, "text": " You can't don't talk to those people." }, { "start": 2327.92, "end": 2328.92, "text": " They're not here for you." }, { "start": 2328.92, "end": 2330.48, "text": " Talk to the people in the audience." }, { "start": 2330.48, "end": 2331.48, "text": " All right." }, { "start": 2331.48, "end": 2333, "text": " We should, we should round up Microsoft with the tablet." }, { "start": 2333, "end": 2334, "text": " Do you want to?" }, { "start": 2334, "end": 2335, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2335, "end": 2336.7999999999997, "text": " There's one more Microsoft story and we should talk about Apple and Samsung." }, { "start": 2336.7999999999997, "end": 2340.08, "text": " Uh, there's a surface two over there too." }, { "start": 2340.08, "end": 2341.08, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2341.08, "end": 2346.96, "text": " Well it's crazy cause Microsoft, this is when Microsoft bought Nokia's devices business" }, { "start": 2346.96, "end": 2349.16, "text": " as like this is what's going to happen." }, { "start": 2349.16, "end": 2352.76, "text": " Microsoft is probably going to build a phone and Nokia's going to build a tablet and then" }, { "start": 2352.76, "end": 2357.2, "text": " that Microsoft hasn't built a phone yet cause they obviously just bought a phone business," }, { "start": 2357.2, "end": 2358.2, "text": " but Nokia doesn't care." }, { "start": 2358.2, "end": 2359.2, "text": " They're just out there." }, { "start": 2359.2, "end": 2364.36, "text": " They just built a surface, but you've got a surface on top of MacBook air here." }, { "start": 2364.36, "end": 2365.36, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2365.36, "end": 2366.36, "text": " It's dirty, right?" }, { "start": 2366.36, "end": 2367.92, "text": " So Paul, you've got Paul, you know, this is what I want." }, { "start": 2367.92, "end": 2370.36, "text": " I just want reaction shots of Paul, the gadgets." }, { "start": 2370.36, "end": 2371.36, "text": " Where are you at?" }, { "start": 2371.36, "end": 2372.36, "text": " It's a gallery." }, { "start": 2372.36, "end": 2375.36, "text": " No dude, I was using the, the, the." }, { "start": 2375.36, "end": 2377.2400000000002, "text": " We got the pencil." }, { "start": 2377.2400000000002, "end": 2378.2400000000002, "text": " It's not going to work on that screen." }, { "start": 2378.2400000000002, "end": 2379.2400000000002, "text": " Yeah, it does." }, { "start": 2379.2400000000002, "end": 2380.2400000000002, "text": " It's a, it's a, it's a capacity of style." }, { "start": 2380.2400000000002, "end": 2381.2400000000002, "text": " It's still capacity." }, { "start": 2381.2400000000002, "end": 2382.2400000000002, "text": " Oh, it's Bluetooth." }, { "start": 2382.2400000000002, "end": 2383.2400000000002, "text": " It's for the eraser." }, { "start": 2383.2400000000002, "end": 2385.92, "text": " And so we have the pencil rejection also." }, { "start": 2385.92, "end": 2386.92, "text": " I think the palm rejection." }, { "start": 2386.92, "end": 2389.44, "text": " So then this, this keyboard looks terrible." }, { "start": 2389.44, "end": 2390.44, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2390.44, "end": 2391.44, "text": " Keyword." }, { "start": 2391.44, "end": 2392.44, "text": " But this tap." }, { "start": 2392.44, "end": 2393.44, "text": " Oh sure." }, { "start": 2393.44, "end": 2394.44, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2394.44, "end": 2398.78, "text": " So it comes, you can get a case that's got like a little keyboard on it and then it like" }, { "start": 2398.78, "end": 2399.78, "text": " folds up pretty excited." }, { "start": 2399.78, "end": 2400.78, "text": " Pretty sad thing." }, { "start": 2400.78, "end": 2405.08, "text": " Um, but they got to stop with this glossy fire engine red man." }, { "start": 2405.08, "end": 2406.08, "text": " I don't know dude." }, { "start": 2406.08, "end": 2408.24, "text": " It feels pretty good." }, { "start": 2408.24, "end": 2409.24, "text": " It's the same as you just said." }, { "start": 2409.24, "end": 2410.24, "text": " The phone felt slimy." }, { "start": 2410.24, "end": 2411.24, "text": " Yeah, but I don't know." }, { "start": 2411.24, "end": 2412.24, "text": " What are you doing?" }, { "start": 2412.24, "end": 2413.24, "text": " There's definitely a little bit of flex there." }, { "start": 2413.24, "end": 2414.24, "text": " Oh yeah." }, { "start": 2414.24, "end": 2419.24, "text": " No, this is, this is pretty, pretty light." }, { "start": 2419.24, "end": 2425.72, "text": " I was, I was expecting this tablet to be a mess and it's not." }, { "start": 2425.72, "end": 2432.6, "text": " I will say like I just got, I got a Chromebook and I kind of wish I'd gotten one of these." }, { "start": 2432.6, "end": 2433.6, "text": " Really?" }, { "start": 2433.6, "end": 2439.52, "text": " Yeah, as much as hate hatred as I just poured onto their app ecosystem and SDK, I kind of" }, { "start": 2439.52, "end": 2442.88, "text": " think I would prefer, Oh, I see, I see what you're saying." }, { "start": 2442.88, "end": 2443.88, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2443.88, "end": 2446.16, "text": " As little, it's got a little residence." }, { "start": 2446.16, "end": 2447.16, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2447.16, "end": 2450.48, "text": " No, there's a, there's a, it feels like you can like squeeze the air out of it before" }, { "start": 2450.48, "end": 2455.52, "text": " you like put it in the room for like, you can like add some Ram to it." }, { "start": 2455.52, "end": 2457.64, "text": " I don't know man." }, { "start": 2457.64, "end": 2459.08, "text": " Here, here's the biggest problem." }, { "start": 2459.08, "end": 2460.92, "text": " Don't see this, see that." }, { "start": 2460.92, "end": 2461.92, "text": " Don't do that." }, { "start": 2461.92, "end": 2463.56, "text": " No wrong camera." }, { "start": 2463.56, "end": 2468.44, "text": " This this one, see this, see these big Verizon logos that are silk screen on here and I can" }, { "start": 2468.44, "end": 2470.16, "text": " like rub my finger." }, { "start": 2470.16, "end": 2472.12, "text": " Everything about this is fingerprints." }, { "start": 2472.12, "end": 2477.96, "text": " I just like everything about this right now is covered in gross, ultra gross fingerprints." }, { "start": 2477.96, "end": 2480.04, "text": " But like this is, I mean how much does this cost?" }, { "start": 2480.04, "end": 2481.04, "text": " It's like 300 something." }, { "start": 2481.04, "end": 2485, "text": " You're just trying, you're just trying to get John to tell you in your ear again, you" }, { "start": 2485, "end": 2486, "text": " don't actually want to know." }, { "start": 2486, "end": 2487, "text": " John, John, John, how much is the $6 billion?" }, { "start": 2487, "end": 2488, "text": " It's called $6 billion I think." }, { "start": 2488, "end": 2495.44, "text": " Do you remember when Nokia made a netbook, remember that thing?" }, { "start": 2495.44, "end": 2496.44, "text": " No I do not." }, { "start": 2496.44, "end": 2497.44, "text": " Nokia made a netbook." }, { "start": 2497.44, "end": 2498.44, "text": " Oh yeah." }, { "start": 2498.44, "end": 2499.92, "text": " That's what that reminds me of." }, { "start": 2499.92, "end": 2500.92, "text": " That ran Windows." }, { "start": 2500.92, "end": 2501.92, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 2501.92, "end": 2502.92, "text": " $400." }, { "start": 2502.92, "end": 2503.92, "text": " Oh the Nokia." }, { "start": 2503.92, "end": 2506.24, "text": " Wait the 4G one?" }, { "start": 2506.24, "end": 2507.24, "text": " The booklet." }, { "start": 2507.24, "end": 2509.48, "text": " I remember it was one of Joanna Stern's like." }, { "start": 2509.48, "end": 2510.84, "text": " I remember this now." }, { "start": 2510.84, "end": 2513.08, "text": " And it was, it was a piece." }, { "start": 2513.08, "end": 2515.28, "text": " This is like, this product is not for this." }, { "start": 2515.28, "end": 2518.2000000000003, "text": " I have this theory about temporary products, right?" }, { "start": 2518.2000000000003, "end": 2521.6800000000003, "text": " There's an endless amount of crap on the market right now that feels super temporary." }, { "start": 2521.6800000000003, "end": 2524.0400000000004, "text": " I think the Nexus 5 feels super temporary to me." }, { "start": 2524.0400000000004, "end": 2525.0400000000004, "text": " I almost can't see through the fingerprints." }, { "start": 2525.0400000000004, "end": 2528.2400000000002, "text": " Six months from now, that thing is just going to be gone." }, { "start": 2528.2400000000002, "end": 2529.2400000000002, "text": " Completely disagree." }, { "start": 2529.2400000000002, "end": 2530.2400000000002, "text": " The Nexus 5." }, { "start": 2530.2400000000002, "end": 2531.2400000000002, "text": " Yeah, the black one." }, { "start": 2531.2400000000002, "end": 2532.2400000000002, "text": " The white one feels completely temporary." }, { "start": 2532.2400000000002, "end": 2533.2400000000002, "text": " The black one feels." }, { "start": 2533.2400000000002, "end": 2534.2400000000002, "text": " I had a white one, I'm sorry." }, { "start": 2534.2400000000002, "end": 2535.4, "text": " God, it's the worst." }, { "start": 2535.4, "end": 2538.1200000000003, "text": " It's like every day of my life I'm like, God I'm using my phone now." }, { "start": 2538.1200000000003, "end": 2539.4, "text": " I'm like, I hate myself." }, { "start": 2539.4, "end": 2544.2400000000002, "text": " No, the black one, it's anonymous and kind of boring." }, { "start": 2544.2400000000002, "end": 2545.2400000000002, "text": " Yeah, it's cool." }, { "start": 2545.24, "end": 2546.24, "text": " The black one's cool." }, { "start": 2546.24, "end": 2550.9599999999996, "text": " But like it also like just goes away and in a way like your gadgetry should be." }, { "start": 2550.9599999999996, "end": 2551.9599999999996, "text": " Let's trade." }, { "start": 2551.9599999999996, "end": 2552.9599999999996, "text": " You want my white one?" }, { "start": 2552.9599999999996, "end": 2553.9599999999996, "text": " No." }, { "start": 2553.9599999999996, "end": 2554.9599999999996, "text": " Ah, this is covered in fingerprints too." }, { "start": 2554.9599999999996, "end": 2555.9599999999996, "text": " Yeah, I know." }, { "start": 2555.9599999999996, "end": 2556.9599999999996, "text": " Everything fingerprints all the time." }, { "start": 2556.9599999999996, "end": 2557.9599999999996, "text": " Actually, can I complain about this?" }, { "start": 2557.9599999999996, "end": 2560.04, "text": " I just got the wireless charger, which is great." }, { "start": 2560.04, "end": 2564.9599999999996, "text": " And there's magnets because you know, they steal everything from Palm." }, { "start": 2564.9599999999996, "end": 2566.9599999999996, "text": " And it has this mode called, dude." }, { "start": 2566.9599999999996, "end": 2567.9599999999996, "text": " Oh, sadness." }, { "start": 2567.9599999999996, "end": 2571.12, "text": " It's got this mode called Daydream where when it's on it on the charger, it's." }, { "start": 2571.12, "end": 2572.6, "text": " That's a Palm thing too, right?" }, { "start": 2572.6, "end": 2573.6, "text": " Yeah, it was exhibition." }, { "start": 2573.6, "end": 2574.6, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2574.6, "end": 2580.4, "text": " So there are better web OS exhibition apps that like show you stuff you want while it's" }, { "start": 2580.4, "end": 2582.7999999999997, "text": " charging than there are available on Android." }, { "start": 2582.7999999999997, "end": 2583.7999999999997, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2583.7999999999997, "end": 2586.12, "text": " Is web OS like the Xerox park of our time?" }, { "start": 2586.12, "end": 2588.1, "text": " It truly is without question." }, { "start": 2588.1, "end": 2590.92, "text": " Only Matthias actually went to Google and isn't doing all the stuff yet." }, { "start": 2590.92, "end": 2592.7999999999997, "text": " Well, he's doing it just now on Android." }, { "start": 2592.7999999999997, "end": 2593.7999999999997, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2593.7999999999997, "end": 2594.7999999999997, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2594.7999999999997, "end": 2595.7999999999997, "text": " Well, it'd be like exhibition." }, { "start": 2595.7999999999997, "end": 2596.7999999999997, "text": " I finally found the part." }, { "start": 2596.7999999999997, "end": 2597.7999999999997, "text": " So here's my theory." }, { "start": 2597.7999999999997, "end": 2598.7999999999997, "text": " So the Nexus 5 in particular feels temporary." }, { "start": 2598.7999999999997, "end": 2601.2, "text": " Like six months from now, no one will ever remember it." }, { "start": 2601.2, "end": 2602.36, "text": " It'll go away." }, { "start": 2602.36, "end": 2605.04, "text": " Like it will have made no impact on the universe." }, { "start": 2605.04, "end": 2608.1600000000003, "text": " That tablet, the 2520, temporary, right?" }, { "start": 2608.1600000000003, "end": 2610.76, "text": " In another four months, no, he'd be part of Microsoft." }, { "start": 2610.76, "end": 2613.76, "text": " That thing will just fade into oblivion and we'll all." }, { "start": 2613.76, "end": 2615.56, "text": " It's the Motorola zoom." }, { "start": 2615.56, "end": 2618.96, "text": " Another great example of a product that instantly felt temporary." }, { "start": 2618.96, "end": 2620.6, "text": " Nexus 10 instantly felt temporary." }, { "start": 2620.6, "end": 2621.6, "text": " Nexus 10 definitely felt temporary." }, { "start": 2621.6, "end": 2622.78, "text": " Like here's this thing." }, { "start": 2622.78, "end": 2625.88, "text": " Like we farted it out and like it's going to go away soon." }, { "start": 2625.88, "end": 2626.88, "text": " There are products that don't feel temporary." }, { "start": 2626.88, "end": 2628.6800000000003, "text": " The Surface 2 right there doesn't feel temporary." }, { "start": 2628.6800000000003, "end": 2630.88, "text": " Like it has like a weight and a personality." }, { "start": 2630.88, "end": 2637.12, "text": " The Nexus 4, even though it didn't have LTE and thus was a tragedy, had like a personality." }, { "start": 2637.12, "end": 2639.4, "text": " It didn't feel like immediately temporary." }, { "start": 2639.4, "end": 2644.62, "text": " I think we're like in this moment of like ultra temporary products where you can like" }, { "start": 2644.62, "end": 2645.62, "text": " all these commodity." }, { "start": 2645.62, "end": 2646.8, "text": " If you buy it, it's not temporary." }, { "start": 2646.8, "end": 2647.8, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2647.8, "end": 2648.8, "text": " But why would you buy that?" }, { "start": 2648.8, "end": 2652.32, "text": " Like, I don't think you should buy, you shouldn't buy a product that the world will instantly" }, { "start": 2652.32, "end": 2653.32, "text": " forget." }, { "start": 2653.32, "end": 2654.32, "text": " I'm going to take my Chromebook back." }, { "start": 2654.32, "end": 2657.32, "text": " Unless you're Chris Ziegler and you just need to, you need to have it in your possession." }, { "start": 2657.32, "end": 2658.32, "text": " But who cares?" }, { "start": 2658.32, "end": 2659.32, "text": " That's temporary too." }, { "start": 2659.32, "end": 2660.32, "text": " Cause he buys it and then sells it a week later." }, { "start": 2660.32, "end": 2661.32, "text": " How is the world going to forget it?" }, { "start": 2661.32, "end": 2662.32, "text": " I mean this has..." }, { "start": 2662.32, "end": 2665.0800000000004, "text": " Because you're buying, you're not just buying, that thing isn't done, right?" }, { "start": 2665.0800000000004, "end": 2668.56, "text": " Like it needs to get software support and updates and like you need to buy accessories" }, { "start": 2668.56, "end": 2669.56, "text": " for it." }, { "start": 2669.56, "end": 2670.56, "text": " One day the battery will die." }, { "start": 2670.56, "end": 2671.56, "text": " Somebody has to fix it." }, { "start": 2671.56, "end": 2676.36, "text": " Like there's all kinds of stuff and like all these products to me feel incredibly temporary" }, { "start": 2676.36, "end": 2677.36, "text": " right now." }, { "start": 2677.36, "end": 2682.76, "text": " Even the 1520, the phablet, like that's draft one of an idea that may not be very good." }, { "start": 2682.76, "end": 2683.76, "text": " Right?" }, { "start": 2683.76, "end": 2685.6800000000003, "text": " And like cool, it's red." }, { "start": 2685.6800000000003, "end": 2687.48, "text": " And like, I just, I don't know." }, { "start": 2687.48, "end": 2693.4, "text": " These two products, the Nexus 5, particularly my white one, which I just, just really dislike." }, { "start": 2693.4, "end": 2694.4, "text": " The fact that this is so cheap." }, { "start": 2694.4, "end": 2700.2400000000002, "text": " I think that the Nexus 5 will do as well as the Nexus 4, which is surprisingly well." }, { "start": 2700.2400000000002, "end": 2701.2400000000002, "text": " Look, I drew a picture of you, Neelai." }, { "start": 2701.2400000000002, "end": 2702.2400000000002, "text": " Well that's cheap." }, { "start": 2702.2400000000002, "end": 2703.2400000000002, "text": " I think you should buy it." }, { "start": 2703.2400000000002, "end": 2704.2400000000002, "text": " Thanks." }, { "start": 2704.2400000000002, "end": 2705.2400000000002, "text": " It's Neelai." }, { "start": 2705.2400000000002, "end": 2706.2400000000002, "text": " Thanks, by the way." }, { "start": 2706.2400000000002, "end": 2707.2400000000002, "text": " No, look, I'm going to go and dye it." }, { "start": 2707.2400000000002, "end": 2708.2400000000002, "text": " Except the camera, which is terrible." }, { "start": 2708.2400000000002, "end": 2709.2400000000002, "text": " That doesn't..." }, { "start": 2709.2400000000002, "end": 2710.2400000000002, "text": " Come on, man." }, { "start": 2710.2400000000002, "end": 2711.2400000000002, "text": " There's more light in my eyes." }, { "start": 2711.2400000000002, "end": 2712.2400000000002, "text": " I wonder if that feeling of temporary..." }, { "start": 2712.2400000000002, "end": 2713.2400000000002, "text": " Well, how do you like that size?" }, { "start": 2713.2400000000002, "end": 2714.2400000000002, "text": " It'll slim you down a bit." }, { "start": 2714.2400000000002, "end": 2715.2400000000002, "text": " What were you saying to her?" }, { "start": 2715.24, "end": 2720.68, "text": " I was saying, I wonder if that feeling of temporariness is everybody watches Samsung" }, { "start": 2720.68, "end": 2725.24, "text": " just throw crap at the wall and then out of nowhere it's like, wow, this is hugely successful" }, { "start": 2725.24, "end": 2727.08, "text": " and we weren't expecting it to be hugely successful." }, { "start": 2727.08, "end": 2729.6, "text": " So if Samsung can like throw crap at the wall, there's a surprise." }, { "start": 2729.6, "end": 2731.12, "text": " But Samsung's the king of temporary products." }, { "start": 2731.12, "end": 2732.12, "text": " Yeah, but sometimes..." }, { "start": 2732.12, "end": 2733.3999999999996, "text": " The Galaxy Round is a temporary product." }, { "start": 2733.3999999999996, "end": 2736.64, "text": " But if Samsung can like make a bunch of temporary products and then all of a sudden the Note" }, { "start": 2736.64, "end": 2738.9199999999996, "text": " happens and like, whoa, this worked." }, { "start": 2738.9199999999996, "end": 2741.64, "text": " Everyone's like, well, let's see if we can do that." }, { "start": 2741.64, "end": 2743.2799999999997, "text": " Let's make a bunch of crap." }, { "start": 2743.28, "end": 2747.44, "text": " And if something shocks us and becomes really popular, then hooray for us." }, { "start": 2747.44, "end": 2748.44, "text": " We look like innovators." }, { "start": 2748.44, "end": 2753.0400000000004, "text": " Yeah, but there's nothing about that tablet that's going to do what the Note did, right?" }, { "start": 2753.0400000000004, "end": 2754.0400000000004, "text": " No." }, { "start": 2754.0400000000004, "end": 2755.0400000000004, "text": " The Note was the first to its space." }, { "start": 2755.0400000000004, "end": 2761.1200000000003, "text": " It is for all of its faults and like, it is at least a reasonably sized thing of that" }, { "start": 2761.1200000000003, "end": 2762.1200000000003, "text": " size." }, { "start": 2762.1200000000003, "end": 2765.2400000000002, "text": " You're just terrified that the Galaxy Gear is going to be successful." }, { "start": 2765.2400000000002, "end": 2766.2400000000002, "text": " This is targeting..." }, { "start": 2766.2400000000002, "end": 2768.1600000000003, "text": " The Galaxy Gear is like an ultra temporary product." }, { "start": 2768.16, "end": 2775.44, "text": " This is targeting the vanilla, like Microsoft's concept in their brain of what a Windows tablet" }, { "start": 2775.44, "end": 2776.8799999999997, "text": " is." }, { "start": 2776.8799999999997, "end": 2779.52, "text": " This is targeting that and it's always going to have that software." }, { "start": 2779.52, "end": 2784.16, "text": " Like the Note, like, you know, it doesn't get the new Note software." }, { "start": 2784.16, "end": 2788.7999999999997, "text": " No, what makes this temporary is that Microsoft is buying Nokia and why would they continue?" }, { "start": 2788.7999999999997, "end": 2789.7999999999997, "text": " Yeah, so what is the point?" }, { "start": 2789.7999999999997, "end": 2790.7999999999997, "text": " But if you just..." }, { "start": 2790.7999999999997, "end": 2793.64, "text": " I mean, as a consumer, because I kind of want to buy one of these." }, { "start": 2793.64, "end": 2794.64, "text": " If I bought this..." }, { "start": 2794.64, "end": 2795.92, "text": " Well, why wouldn't you buy Surface 2?" }, { "start": 2795.92, "end": 2797.92, "text": " Because it's big and ugly." }, { "start": 2797.92, "end": 2798.92, "text": " I mean, it's not ugly." }, { "start": 2798.92, "end": 2802.64, "text": " It actually looks really great, but it's really fat." }, { "start": 2802.64, "end": 2804.56, "text": " No, but why wouldn't you buy..." }, { "start": 2804.56, "end": 2805.7200000000003, "text": " I mean, like, I don't get it." }, { "start": 2805.7200000000003, "end": 2806.7200000000003, "text": " And it's like a million dollars." }, { "start": 2806.7200000000003, "end": 2807.7200000000003, "text": " Can I see the iPad?" }, { "start": 2807.7200000000003, "end": 2810.36, "text": " I want to do some real drawing." }, { "start": 2810.36, "end": 2811.36, "text": " Here we go." }, { "start": 2811.36, "end": 2812.36, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2812.36, "end": 2813.36, "text": " Oh, we have paper." }, { "start": 2813.36, "end": 2814.36, "text": " No, it's just..." }, { "start": 2814.36, "end": 2816, "text": " It's like, it's like the..." }, { "start": 2816, "end": 2818.64, "text": " You want to buy the canonical device, right?" }, { "start": 2818.64, "end": 2820.6, "text": " What's with all the red today?" }, { "start": 2820.6, "end": 2825.84, "text": " Is this like just like a handy visual reminder to us that these are the gadgets that we're" }, { "start": 2825.84, "end": 2826.84, "text": " demonstrating?" }, { "start": 2826.84, "end": 2827.84, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2827.84, "end": 2828.84, "text": " Surface 2 is just sitting there." }, { "start": 2828.84, "end": 2829.84, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2829.84, "end": 2832.92, "text": " Well, all our gray laptops on the Surface 2, they fade into the background." }, { "start": 2832.92, "end": 2833.92, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2833.92, "end": 2834.92, "text": " This is good." }, { "start": 2834.92, "end": 2835.92, "text": " This is good." }, { "start": 2835.92, "end": 2839.1200000000003, "text": " I think there's something in like screenwriting workshops about like the woman in the red" }, { "start": 2839.1200000000003, "end": 2840.1200000000003, "text": " dress." }, { "start": 2840.1200000000003, "end": 2841.1200000000003, "text": " That would be the Matrix." }, { "start": 2841.1200000000003, "end": 2842.1200000000003, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2842.1200000000003, "end": 2843.1200000000003, "text": " That's just the Matrix." }, { "start": 2843.1200000000003, "end": 2844.1200000000003, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 2844.1200000000003, "end": 2845.1200000000003, "text": " All right." }, { "start": 2845.1200000000003, "end": 2846.1200000000003, "text": " Blonde, brunette." }, { "start": 2846.1200000000003, "end": 2847.1200000000003, "text": " We're going to watch Paul draw now." }, { "start": 2847.1200000000003, "end": 2848.1200000000003, "text": " Paul, okay." }, { "start": 2848.1200000000003, "end": 2853.96, "text": " So Paul is using the pencil by 53, which is a Bluetooth stylus for the iPad that syncs" }, { "start": 2853.96, "end": 2856.7200000000003, "text": " with paper, the app, which is tremendously popular." }, { "start": 2856.72, "end": 2858.04, "text": " And the palm rejection doesn't quite work." }, { "start": 2858.04, "end": 2860.3999999999996, "text": " And when I say tremendously popular, yeah, I don't think the palm rejection works." }, { "start": 2860.3999999999996, "end": 2861.3999999999996, "text": " Is it synced?" }, { "start": 2861.3999999999996, "end": 2862.3999999999996, "text": " Did you sync it?" }, { "start": 2862.3999999999996, "end": 2863.3999999999996, "text": " No, I think it might only work..." }, { "start": 2863.3999999999996, "end": 2865.3599999999997, "text": " You sync it by tapping it on this little guy and then there's a little..." }, { "start": 2865.3599999999997, "end": 2866.3599999999997, "text": " Just hold it down there." }, { "start": 2866.3599999999997, "end": 2867.3599999999997, "text": " Hold it." }, { "start": 2867.3599999999997, "end": 2868.3599999999997, "text": " Kiss to sync is what it's called." }, { "start": 2868.3599999999997, "end": 2869.3599999999997, "text": " No, kill me." }, { "start": 2869.3599999999997, "end": 2870.3599999999997, "text": " Don't say kiss to sync." }, { "start": 2870.3599999999997, "end": 2871.3599999999997, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2871.3599999999997, "end": 2872.3599999999997, "text": " So there you go." }, { "start": 2872.3599999999997, "end": 2873.3599999999997, "text": " Now it's synced." }, { "start": 2873.3599999999997, "end": 2874.3599999999997, "text": " Now the palm rejection should work." }, { "start": 2874.3599999999997, "end": 2875.3599999999997, "text": " It didn't work earlier." }, { "start": 2875.3599999999997, "end": 2876.3599999999997, "text": " Well, it's because you didn't have it synced." }, { "start": 2876.3599999999997, "end": 2877.3599999999997, "text": " Yeah, that's awesome." }, { "start": 2877.3599999999997, "end": 2878.3599999999997, "text": " And then you can..." }, { "start": 2878.3599999999997, "end": 2879.3599999999997, "text": " That works." }, { "start": 2879.3599999999997, "end": 2880.3599999999997, "text": " There's an eraser on the back." }, { "start": 2880.3599999999997, "end": 2882.16, "text": " You can take it apart and charge it over a USB." }, { "start": 2882.16, "end": 2883.72, "text": " Stop drawing me." }, { "start": 2883.72, "end": 2886.72, "text": " How do you know that's you?" }, { "start": 2886.72, "end": 2890.68, "text": " Because I know that fat face anyway." }, { "start": 2890.68, "end": 2892.48, "text": " This is riveting television, by the way." }, { "start": 2892.48, "end": 2893.48, "text": " Paul just drawing." }, { "start": 2893.48, "end": 2896.48, "text": " So then you can use your finger to smudge it?" }, { "start": 2896.48, "end": 2897.48, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2897.48, "end": 2898.48, "text": " That's paper." }, { "start": 2898.48, "end": 2900.8399999999997, "text": " Paper is doing so phenomenally well, by the way, as an app." }, { "start": 2900.8399999999997, "end": 2901.8399999999997, "text": " And then you can erase." }, { "start": 2901.8399999999997, "end": 2906.3599999999997, "text": " And so the big key here is that they hired a bunch of hardware guys from Microsoft who" }, { "start": 2906.3599999999997, "end": 2909.3199999999997, "text": " were working on the Courier to build the pencil." }, { "start": 2909.3199999999997, "end": 2910.3199999999997, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2910.3199999999997, "end": 2911.3199999999997, "text": " This is great." }, { "start": 2911.3199999999997, "end": 2913.04, "text": " It's a pretty good stylus." }, { "start": 2913.04, "end": 2914.04, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2914.04, "end": 2915.04, "text": " I mean, if you want a stylus on your tablet." }, { "start": 2915.04, "end": 2916.04, "text": " It feels like a crayon." }, { "start": 2916.04, "end": 2917.04, "text": " I do." }, { "start": 2917.04, "end": 2918.04, "text": " I do." }, { "start": 2918.04, "end": 2919.04, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 2919.04, "end": 2920.04, "text": " I take it back." }, { "start": 2920.04, "end": 2921.04, "text": " I'm not getting one of these." }, { "start": 2921.04, "end": 2922.04, "text": " Why aren't you getting one of these?" }, { "start": 2922.04, "end": 2923.04, "text": " Because I'm just going to double down on my iPad." }, { "start": 2923.04, "end": 2926.04, "text": " Oh, you're not going to get a 2520?" }, { "start": 2926.04, "end": 2927.04, "text": " No." }, { "start": 2927.04, "end": 2928.04, "text": " When were you ever?" }, { "start": 2928.04, "end": 2929.04, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 2929.04, "end": 2930.04, "text": " I mean..." }, { "start": 2930.04, "end": 2934.48, "text": " So the whole idea behind the Chromebook was to get a laptop that I literally couldn't" }, { "start": 2934.48, "end": 2935.96, "text": " do anything but write on." }, { "start": 2935.96, "end": 2936.96, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2936.96, "end": 2941.64, "text": " But not having real native apps, it was just too scary to be writing something important" }, { "start": 2941.64, "end": 2946.48, "text": " in a web browser or in one of their weird fake apps and it dies." }, { "start": 2946.48, "end": 2953.56, "text": " You literally, if you look through the app store for the Chrome store for almost any" }, { "start": 2953.56, "end": 2956.68, "text": " productivity app, it's like, this is kind of cool." }, { "start": 2956.68, "end": 2962.04, "text": " And then something happened and it refreshed and then everything's gone." }, { "start": 2962.04, "end": 2963.68, "text": " That's pretty much the story for..." }, { "start": 2963.68, "end": 2965.2, "text": " So I was like, well, Windows 8." }, { "start": 2965.2, "end": 2969.96, "text": " And I looked through the app stores, got some pretty cool Markdown apps and stuff." }, { "start": 2969.96, "end": 2972.84, "text": " But then I just went back to my iPad and it's awesome." }, { "start": 2972.84, "end": 2973.84, "text": " It is so great." }, { "start": 2973.84, "end": 2975.28, "text": " My iPad 2 is amazing." }, { "start": 2975.28, "end": 2976.28, "text": " iPad 2." }, { "start": 2976.28, "end": 2977.28, "text": " No, 3." }, { "start": 2977.28, "end": 2978.28, "text": " 3." }, { "start": 2978.28, "end": 2979.28, "text": " The first one with the Retina." }, { "start": 2979.28, "end": 2980.28, "text": " I have an upgrade." }, { "start": 2980.28, "end": 2987.2, "text": " I swore up in the ad I was going to buy an Air and I even sold my iPad 3 on Gazelle and" }, { "start": 2987.2, "end": 2988.76, "text": " then I just haven't done anything yet." }, { "start": 2988.76, "end": 2990.04, "text": " I'm just sitting there." }, { "start": 2990.04, "end": 2992, "text": " It's like, oh, I don't use this very much." }, { "start": 2992, "end": 2994.28, "text": " I mean, I use it a lot, but I don't use it very much." }, { "start": 2994.28, "end": 2995.68, "text": " If that makes any sense." }, { "start": 2995.68, "end": 3000.56, "text": " I use the Mini with the Retina display for the first time since the event, since the" }, { "start": 3000.56, "end": 3001.56, "text": " hands-on." }, { "start": 3001.56, "end": 3002.56, "text": " You upgrading?" }, { "start": 3002.56, "end": 3003.56, "text": " I really don't want to." }, { "start": 3003.56, "end": 3005.8199999999997, "text": " I really don't want to spend the money." }, { "start": 3005.8199999999997, "end": 3007.16, "text": " But I'm probably going to." }, { "start": 3007.16, "end": 3008.16, "text": " Yeah, it happens." }, { "start": 3008.16, "end": 3009.16, "text": " It's that time of year." }, { "start": 3009.16, "end": 3010.16, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3010.16, "end": 3013.64, "text": " Well, I thought my hand was going to be forced because I lost my old iPad Mini." }, { "start": 3013.64, "end": 3015.64, "text": " I left it in a Zipcar in San Francisco." }, { "start": 3015.64, "end": 3020, "text": " This is a story of human triumph and karmic balance." }, { "start": 3020, "end": 3021.58, "text": " Justin in San Francisco." }, { "start": 3021.58, "end": 3022.58, "text": " Thank you." }, { "start": 3022.58, "end": 3023.58, "text": " He found it." }, { "start": 3023.58, "end": 3026.3199999999997, "text": " I went there to get Zipcar to tell him who I was and they wouldn't." }, { "start": 3026.3199999999997, "end": 3030.4, "text": " And then I sent the I lost my iPad message to it and he called me." }, { "start": 3030.4, "end": 3031.4, "text": " What a guy." }, { "start": 3031.4, "end": 3032.48, "text": " He's given it back." }, { "start": 3032.48, "end": 3034.88, "text": " He won't even let me give him a reward." }, { "start": 3034.88, "end": 3035.88, "text": " I don't even know who he is." }, { "start": 3035.88, "end": 3037.88, "text": " A story of true human accomplishment." }, { "start": 3037.88, "end": 3038.88, "text": " That's right." }, { "start": 3038.88, "end": 3042.4, "text": " That saved me $650 because I'm not buying a new iPad now." }, { "start": 3042.4, "end": 3043.4, "text": " Nice." }, { "start": 3043.4, "end": 3049.92, "text": " So we should do, there's some, by the way, Skirgold, I just want to point this out." }, { "start": 3049.92, "end": 3052, "text": " Google cool response." }, { "start": 3052, "end": 3053.3199999999997, "text": " I totally forgot this story." }, { "start": 3053.32, "end": 3058.52, "text": " Vint Cerf, who is Google's chief internet evangelist today said privacy may actually" }, { "start": 3058.52, "end": 3060.32, "text": " be an anomaly." }, { "start": 3060.32, "end": 3064.88, "text": " The privacy is an artificial state created by technology that didn't used to exist." }, { "start": 3064.88, "end": 3065.88, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3065.88, "end": 3068.92, "text": " Cause we all used to live in tiny little villages and we knew everybody knew what everybody" }, { "start": 3068.92, "end": 3069.92, "text": " was doing." }, { "start": 3069.92, "end": 3070.92, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3070.92, "end": 3072.4, "text": " And then technology created private." }, { "start": 3072.4, "end": 3077.48, "text": " So we're now reverting to our state of nature, which is Google and the NSA watching over" }, { "start": 3077.48, "end": 3078.48, "text": " us at all times." }, { "start": 3078.48, "end": 3079.48, "text": " Skirgold guys." }, { "start": 3079.48, "end": 3080.48, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3080.48, "end": 3083.68, "text": " Google is replacing don't be evil with nasty, brutish and short." }, { "start": 3083.68, "end": 3087.96, "text": " It's a real Hobbesian state of the internet right now." }, { "start": 3087.96, "end": 3088.96, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 3088.96, "end": 3093.44, "text": " So bizarrely we have like a whole litany of Samsung news, which is I think strange." }, { "start": 3093.44, "end": 3097, "text": " Cause it's usually like, look at this crazy phone." }, { "start": 3097, "end": 3101.44, "text": " So actually breaking news right before we came on the show, Apple and Samsung back in" }, { "start": 3101.44, "end": 3102.44, "text": " the courtroom today." }, { "start": 3102.44, "end": 3103.44, "text": " Together again at last." }, { "start": 3103.44, "end": 3104.44, "text": " This is the same old trial, right?" }, { "start": 3104.44, "end": 3107.44, "text": " It was the same old trial." }, { "start": 3107.44, "end": 3111.64, "text": " So this is the patent infringement trial." }, { "start": 3111.64, "end": 3114.04, "text": " This I think there's an interesting piece of this." }, { "start": 3114.04, "end": 3115.52, "text": " So the number came out today." }, { "start": 3115.52, "end": 3121.12, "text": " So the jury in the first trial gave, uh, since Apple wins, Samsung owes him a billion dollars." }, { "start": 3121.12, "end": 3123.52, "text": " The judge says you got the number wrong." }, { "start": 3123.52, "end": 3128.64, "text": " Go back and like figure out, uh, I think it was like $350 million of that number." }, { "start": 3128.64, "end": 3130.88, "text": " You got about that much wrong of it." }, { "start": 3130.88, "end": 3134.04, "text": " Samsung said, well, that number should be $57 million." }, { "start": 3134.04, "end": 3135.44, "text": " Apple said we should be the whole thing." }, { "start": 3135.44, "end": 3137.38, "text": " The jury came back today and said 290 million." }, { "start": 3137.38, "end": 3141.12, "text": " So Apple won like clean walked away the winter." }, { "start": 3141.12, "end": 3142.12, "text": " Right?" }, { "start": 3142.12, "end": 3145.8, "text": " But what's interesting is that during the closing arguments of the trial, I was going" }, { "start": 3145.8, "end": 3147.8, "text": " to go for the lunch thing, but that's, oh yeah." }, { "start": 3147.8, "end": 3151.7200000000003, "text": " The jury also sent a note asking to order Chinese food for lunch and asking for a picture" }, { "start": 3151.7200000000003, "end": 3155.6800000000003, "text": " of themselves two hours before the verdict was rendered two hours before they wanted" }, { "start": 3155.6800000000003, "end": 3157.08, "text": " to, they asked for a picture of themselves." }, { "start": 3157.08, "end": 3158.08, "text": " Wow." }, { "start": 3158.08, "end": 3159.6, "text": " Um, I didn't know you could do that." }, { "start": 3159.6, "end": 3162.28, "text": " They're like, can we please get the courtroom sketch of the jury?" }, { "start": 3162.28, "end": 3163.28, "text": " Yeah, I love it." }, { "start": 3163.28, "end": 3164.28, "text": " I think they're all like friends." }, { "start": 3164.28, "end": 3165.28, "text": " Like they're back there." }, { "start": 3165.28, "end": 3166.28, "text": " They're eating a bunch of Chinese food." }, { "start": 3166.28, "end": 3167.28, "text": " They're like cool." }, { "start": 3167.28, "end": 3168.28, "text": " I'm like, what do you think?" }, { "start": 3168.28, "end": 3169.28, "text": " Two 97, two 90." }, { "start": 3169.28, "end": 3170.28, "text": " He's doing it." }, { "start": 3170.28, "end": 3171.28, "text": " Delicious." }, { "start": 3171.28, "end": 3172.28, "text": " Sweet and spicy." }, { "start": 3172.28, "end": 3173.28, "text": " Um, but okay." }, { "start": 3173.28, "end": 3182.96, "text": " So here's the really interesting part during the closing arguments of this trial, uh, Apple" }, { "start": 3182.96, "end": 3190.5600000000004, "text": " made what is largely a, uh, like a, uh, I don't know, protectionist claim." }, { "start": 3190.5600000000004, "end": 3195.4, "text": " It said IP is the basis of the, of the technology economy in America." }, { "start": 3195.4, "end": 3197.0400000000004, "text": " We have to protect our patents." }, { "start": 3197.04, "end": 3200.86, "text": " You have to send a signal to Samsung that you can't do this and get away with it." }, { "start": 3200.86, "end": 3203.04, "text": " Look at what happened to the TV industry." }, { "start": 3203.04, "end": 3206.56, "text": " We didn't protect our IP in the TV industry and now there are no more American companies" }, { "start": 3206.56, "end": 3207.56, "text": " making televisions." }, { "start": 3207.56, "end": 3213.84, "text": " And obviously the, the big giant in the TV industry is Samsung, Korean company." }, { "start": 3213.84, "end": 3220.2799999999997, "text": " So Samsung argued that this is a mistrial and that Apple was appealing to racism in" }, { "start": 3220.2799999999997, "end": 3223.92, "text": " their closing arguments, which is like insane." }, { "start": 3223.92, "end": 3226.88, "text": " Uh, judge Coe has been like, well, they were appealing to." }, { "start": 3226.88, "end": 3228.96, "text": " Like jingoism, I guess." }, { "start": 3228.96, "end": 3232.42, "text": " I mean, they were saying you have to send a message and I gave a list of reasons why" }, { "start": 3232.42, "end": 3233.42, "text": " you would send this message." }, { "start": 3233.42, "end": 3236.4, "text": " And one of those reasons is, well, we didn't do it in this other industry and look what" }, { "start": 3236.4, "end": 3237.6600000000003, "text": " happened there." }, { "start": 3237.6600000000003, "end": 3239.1800000000003, "text": " So like, that's fine." }, { "start": 3239.1800000000003, "end": 3241.34, "text": " You could definitely make the jingoistic argument." }, { "start": 3241.34, "end": 3244.2000000000003, "text": " I don't know how you make the racism argument." }, { "start": 3244.2000000000003, "end": 3250.1600000000003, "text": " Like they, like, I just don't know how you, this is the first time that Samsung has made" }, { "start": 3250.1600000000003, "end": 3251.6400000000003, "text": " this claim about an Apple thing." }, { "start": 3251.6400000000003, "end": 3252.6400000000003, "text": " Yeah, they do it all." }, { "start": 3252.6400000000003, "end": 3256.6400000000003, "text": " This is like the move, but judge Coe is like, it's not a mistrial, but so Samsung is going" }, { "start": 3256.64, "end": 3258.04, "text": " to like pursue this." }, { "start": 3258.04, "end": 3263.52, "text": " Like the next piece of this trial puzzle, the next big move is Samsung is going to say," }, { "start": 3263.52, "end": 3267.4, "text": " and this is like, and they're going to, well, I mean, it's part of his closing argument," }, { "start": 3267.4, "end": 3269.48, "text": " but this is like the story about the TV industry is out there." }, { "start": 3269.48, "end": 3271.7999999999997, "text": " Like this is a story about patents in America." }, { "start": 3271.7999999999997, "end": 3275.44, "text": " Like they didn't patent a bunch of TV stuff and then other people copied it and they didn't" }, { "start": 3275.44, "end": 3276.44, "text": " sue." }, { "start": 3276.44, "end": 3277.44, "text": " Like it's out, it's, it's there." }, { "start": 3277.44, "end": 3280.2, "text": " Oh boy, do I not care." }, { "start": 3280.2, "end": 3283.58, "text": " But this is the next move is Samsung is going to appeal the verdict in this case." }, { "start": 3283.58, "end": 3288.16, "text": " And part of the appeal is going to be there was a mistrial because of racism." }, { "start": 3288.16, "end": 3291.7599999999998, "text": " So that that's one piece of Samsung news, which I thought was pretty ridiculous." }, { "start": 3291.7599999999998, "end": 3297.56, "text": " The next to go from that to the galaxy gear, I think very odd, but I'm gonna do it anyway." }, { "start": 3297.56, "end": 3300.88, "text": " There's a big contrary, you know this, there's a big controversy." }, { "start": 3300.88, "end": 3305.42, "text": " Samsung, there was a Korean news source that said they're only selling a hundred a day" }, { "start": 3305.42, "end": 3307.96, "text": " of the galaxy gear, which makes sense to me because things sucks." }, { "start": 3307.96, "end": 3313.44, "text": " But then a number came out and Samsung says they've shipped or sold very unclear, very" }, { "start": 3313.44, "end": 3314.44, "text": " foggy." }, { "start": 3314.44, "end": 3321.52, "text": " So they did, they did this to the traditional Samsung move where they said ships, but it" }, { "start": 3321.52, "end": 3324.7200000000003, "text": " got told, okay." }, { "start": 3324.7200000000003, "end": 3326.76, "text": " And like Samsung loves when that happened." }, { "start": 3326.76, "end": 3327.76, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3327.76, "end": 3331.92, "text": " It's their favorite, but 800,000 ships, who knows how many of those are actually going" }, { "start": 3331.92, "end": 3332.92, "text": " to get." }, { "start": 3332.92, "end": 3338.64, "text": " First things I learned when I was a fledgling gadget reporter, that ship is different than" }, { "start": 3338.64, "end": 3339.64, "text": " sold." }, { "start": 3339.64, "end": 3344.7599999999998, "text": " If you go to an AT&T store, stay away from the gear display, if you like glance at the," }, { "start": 3344.7599999999998, "end": 3346.8799999999997, "text": " they've got it hooked up to a galaxy note three." }, { "start": 3346.8799999999997, "end": 3347.8799999999997, "text": " Oh God." }, { "start": 3347.8799999999997, "end": 3350.8799999999997, "text": " And if you glance at the gear or touch it, cause you want to see what it does, it doesn't" }, { "start": 3350.8799999999997, "end": 3352.24, "text": " actually work." }, { "start": 3352.24, "end": 3356.64, "text": " What it does is it starts on the note three talking to you." }, { "start": 3356.64, "end": 3357.64, "text": " That's like runs a video." }, { "start": 3357.64, "end": 3359.72, "text": " And I'm like, I just want to leave me alone." }, { "start": 3359.72, "end": 3360.72, "text": " And then I had to run away." }, { "start": 3360.72, "end": 3361.72, "text": " It was terrible." }, { "start": 3361.72, "end": 3362.72, "text": " Don't do it." }, { "start": 3362.72, "end": 3366.4, "text": " My best buy, if you turn left, it's the cash register." }, { "start": 3366.4, "end": 3369.2799999999997, "text": " If you go forward, it's blue rays on discount." }, { "start": 3369.28, "end": 3373.76, "text": " If you turn right, it's their mobile kiosk." }, { "start": 3373.76, "end": 3378.36, "text": " And then it's galaxy gear, Samsung stuff." }, { "start": 3378.36, "end": 3384.5400000000004, "text": " Then the app that once upon a time, nicest part of Best Buy, that was that little Apple" }, { "start": 3384.5400000000004, "end": 3388.5600000000004, "text": " kiosk and is now it's Samsung land." }, { "start": 3388.5600000000004, "end": 3394.88, "text": " Do you have a little kid dressed as old, just flitting around, but it is funny to think" }, { "start": 3394.88, "end": 3400.6, "text": " that there might be more galaxy gears in stock at my Best Buy than are sold in a day." }, { "start": 3400.6, "end": 3401.6, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 3401.6, "end": 3403.76, "text": " I think that's absolutely 100% correct." }, { "start": 3403.76, "end": 3405.36, "text": " I think you could double Samsung sales." }, { "start": 3405.36, "end": 3408.56, "text": " If you just went to one Best Buy and bought them all." }, { "start": 3408.56, "end": 3409.56, "text": " We'll see." }, { "start": 3409.56, "end": 3410.56, "text": " We'll see." }, { "start": 3410.56, "end": 3413.56, "text": " I think it's still be relatively successful." }, { "start": 3413.56, "end": 3415.56, "text": " I've seen a couple on the subway since I moved here." }, { "start": 3415.56, "end": 3417.96, "text": " It's really, it's really tough." }, { "start": 3417.96, "end": 3422.6, "text": " The way they so closely tied it to the note." }, { "start": 3422.6, "end": 3423.6, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3423.6, "end": 3429.64, "text": " I think if it wasn't for that, anybody who had like a galaxy two or above could get one" }, { "start": 3429.64, "end": 3432.64, "text": " of these things and go off to the races." }, { "start": 3432.64, "end": 3433.64, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3433.64, "end": 3435.12, "text": " The super nerdy races." }, { "start": 3435.12, "end": 3436.8399999999997, "text": " No, I think people would be into it." }, { "start": 3436.8399999999997, "end": 3437.8399999999997, "text": " I really do." }, { "start": 3437.8399999999997, "end": 3438.8399999999997, "text": " I see, I see." }, { "start": 3438.8399999999997, "end": 3439.8399999999997, "text": " Look, I see S4s and S3s everywhere." }, { "start": 3439.8399999999997, "end": 3443.48, "text": " It's one of those things that like, if you haven't been following the whole Kickstarter" }, { "start": 3443.48, "end": 3448.2799999999997, "text": " smartwatch scene, this is the first time it just like, like when I showed people I could" }, { "start": 3448.2799999999997, "end": 3453.52, "text": " do things on my iPhone, you know, it's, and it's like, yeah, technically you could have" }, { "start": 3453.52, "end": 3459.92, "text": " done that on windows mobile before, but, but like this is the first time a lot of people" }, { "start": 3459.92, "end": 3463, "text": " are seeing this level of technology on their wrist." }, { "start": 3463, "end": 3466.04, "text": " Yeah, but it's not a good enough level of technology." }, { "start": 3466.04, "end": 3467.04, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3467.04, "end": 3470.2, "text": " If you actually release the update that lets you see full notification, if you actually" }, { "start": 3470.2, "end": 3476.48, "text": " are going to be care about like reviews and empiricism now, but so you care about reviews" }, { "start": 3476.48, "end": 3477.48, "text": " and empiricism." }, { "start": 3477.48, "end": 3481.04, "text": " I'm telling you, but I'm saying this is just by exposing people to this level of technology" }, { "start": 3481.04, "end": 3482.28, "text": " that can be on their wrist." }, { "start": 3482.28, "end": 3484.44, "text": " Yeah, I think that's really exciting for people." }, { "start": 3484.44, "end": 3487.6800000000003, "text": " Your panic look at me when you were saying technically you could do it on windows mobile" }, { "start": 3487.6800000000003, "end": 3491.8, "text": " because you knew that I was going to make it, showing off a smartwatch right now feels" }, { "start": 3491.8, "end": 3495.84, "text": " exactly like showing off windows mobile before the iPhone." }, { "start": 3495.84, "end": 3498.96, "text": " People are like, wow, yeah, that's really cool that you can do that nerd." }, { "start": 3498.96, "end": 3499.96, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3499.96, "end": 3500.96, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 3500.96, "end": 3502.96, "text": " Like we need, I mean, we're waiting for the iWatch." }, { "start": 3502.96, "end": 3507.28, "text": " I mean, I guess there's that thing like, yeah, I just, this is Samsung." }, { "start": 3507.28, "end": 3508.6400000000003, "text": " Like they're Samsung." }, { "start": 3508.6400000000003, "end": 3509.6400000000003, "text": " It's a, it's Samsung." }, { "start": 3509.6400000000003, "end": 3510.84, "text": " They, they made it." }, { "start": 3510.84, "end": 3514.36, "text": " They're like, it's another temporary product a year from now." }, { "start": 3514.36, "end": 3515.36, "text": " No one will remember this." }, { "start": 3515.36, "end": 3516.36, "text": " We'll be onto the gear too." }, { "start": 3516.36, "end": 3517.36, "text": " And this thing will be forgotten." }, { "start": 3517.36, "end": 3522.48, "text": " It'll never get a software update and it'll be over the windows mobile compared to a Newton." }, { "start": 3522.48, "end": 3528.2000000000003, "text": " We were at Newton stage with, with, with smartwatches pebble." }, { "start": 3528.2000000000003, "end": 3532.8, "text": " Although I guess, I guess the pebble is actually better without question." }, { "start": 3532.8, "end": 3534.88, "text": " And you know what I think is crazy people are going to buy this." }, { "start": 3534.88, "end": 3537.56, "text": " I can't justify apparently with a bad analogy." }, { "start": 3537.56, "end": 3540.08, "text": " I think people are buying galaxy gears." }, { "start": 3540.08, "end": 3542.04, "text": " No, they're clearly not." }, { "start": 3542.04, "end": 3543.04, "text": " I think some people are buying." }, { "start": 3543.04, "end": 3544.04, "text": " Well yeah." }, { "start": 3544.04, "end": 3546.04, "text": " Like a hundred a day in the entire world." }, { "start": 3546.04, "end": 3547.04, "text": " I think that's a loan." }, { "start": 3547.04, "end": 3549.88, "text": " I think that I think we'll be surprised at how many were sold." }, { "start": 3549.88, "end": 3553.68, "text": " I'm not saying that you're wrong, that this thing is a smashing success, but I think that" }, { "start": 3553.68, "end": 3556.68, "text": " more of them will have been sold than I would have expected." }, { "start": 3556.68, "end": 3557.68, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3557.68, "end": 3562.04, "text": " Instead of buying the girlfriend that you don't like very much, an iPod nano, you're" }, { "start": 3562.04, "end": 3563.6, "text": " going to get her a galaxy gear." }, { "start": 3563.6, "end": 3566.2, "text": " Like that, that's the kind of, not like your girlfriend." }, { "start": 3566.2, "end": 3567.2, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3567.2, "end": 3568.2, "text": " That was it." }, { "start": 3568.2, "end": 3569.7999999999997, "text": " Like there was like a couple of years there where I was like, I was going to break up," }, { "start": 3569.8, "end": 3570.8, "text": " but you know, I'll just get her a gear instead." }, { "start": 3570.8, "end": 3571.8, "text": " Well, we got to get through this." }, { "start": 3571.8, "end": 3572.8, "text": " Here you go." }, { "start": 3572.8, "end": 3573.8, "text": " Here's an iPod nano." }, { "start": 3573.8, "end": 3578.8, "text": " I have, here's a reflection of the depth of my feelings." }, { "start": 3578.8, "end": 3580.8, "text": " I didn't put any music on it." }, { "start": 3580.8, "end": 3581.8, "text": " You say death or depth?" }, { "start": 3581.8, "end": 3582.8, "text": " It's the same coin." }, { "start": 3582.8, "end": 3583.8, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3583.8, "end": 3584.8, "text": " It's whatever." }, { "start": 3584.8, "end": 3589.1600000000003, "text": " I hope you have a galaxy note." }, { "start": 3589.1600000000003, "end": 3592.88, "text": " It's like, um, you know, fine, fine." }, { "start": 3592.88, "end": 3594.36, "text": " Can we just bring up the WinApp thread?" }, { "start": 3594.36, "end": 3595.36, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 3595.36, "end": 3596.36, "text": " Can we just look at it?" }, { "start": 3596.36, "end": 3597.36, "text": " Let's all just look at it." }, { "start": 3597.36, "end": 3598.36, "text": " Guys." }, { "start": 3598.36, "end": 3599.36, "text": " What are we looking at?" }, { "start": 3599.36, "end": 3600.36, "text": " What are we looking at?" }, { "start": 3600.36, "end": 3601.36, "text": " WinApp is dead." }, { "start": 3601.36, "end": 3604.48, "text": " AOL, AOL, a former employer." }, { "start": 3604.48, "end": 3605.48, "text": " Not mine." }, { "start": 3605.48, "end": 3606.48, "text": " That's true." }, { "start": 3606.48, "end": 3607.48, "text": " I was looking at Paul." }, { "start": 3607.48, "end": 3608.48, "text": " Paul, former employer." }, { "start": 3608.48, "end": 3612.2000000000003, "text": " We shared some, some times, some times in America online." }, { "start": 3612.2000000000003, "end": 3615.1200000000003, "text": " That's killed WinApp, killed it dead." }, { "start": 3615.1200000000003, "end": 3618.6400000000003, "text": " The rumor however, is that Microsoft is going to buy it, which is amazing." }, { "start": 3618.6400000000003, "end": 3622.48, "text": " That guy left AOL like forever ago." }, { "start": 3622.48, "end": 3623.48, "text": " Yeah, no." }, { "start": 3623.48, "end": 3624.48, "text": " So he hated." }, { "start": 3624.48, "end": 3626.32, "text": " What does Microsoft need out of WinApp?" }, { "start": 3626.32, "end": 3630.36, "text": " I don't know, TechCrunch had a rumor to Microsoft." }, { "start": 3630.36, "end": 3634.6400000000003, "text": " Can we put up the skins, John?" }, { "start": 3634.6400000000003, "end": 3637, "text": " Can we put up the WinApp thread?" }, { "start": 3637, "end": 3644.92, "text": " By the way, this guy went on to like create a really awesome, um, like music, um, software" }, { "start": 3644.92, "end": 3647.44, "text": " thing for creating music, like logic." }, { "start": 3647.44, "end": 3648.44, "text": " What are those called?" }, { "start": 3648.44, "end": 3650.04, "text": " Here's a word for it." }, { "start": 3650.04, "end": 3651.04, "text": " D-A-W." }, { "start": 3651.04, "end": 3652.04, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3652.04, "end": 3653.04, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3653.04, "end": 3656, "text": " He created a really great, it's like really lightweight." }, { "start": 3656, "end": 3661.12, "text": " Like most of those softwares are like a gigabyte something to download and it's like, and it's" }, { "start": 3661.12, "end": 3663.12, "text": " like 10 megabytes or something like that." }, { "start": 3663.12, "end": 3665.16, "text": " And it works with all plugins and stuff." }, { "start": 3665.16, "end": 3667.96, "text": " So like he went on to do some cool stuff." }, { "start": 3667.96, "end": 3669.52, "text": " So AOL didn't kill him." }, { "start": 3669.52, "end": 3670.52, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3670.52, "end": 3671.52, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 3671.52, "end": 3672.52, "text": " So can I just point out WinApp?" }, { "start": 3672.52, "end": 3675.64, "text": " Just the state of software." }, { "start": 3675.64, "end": 3676.64, "text": " So this was when I was in college." }, { "start": 3676.64, "end": 3677.64, "text": " Right?" }, { "start": 3677.64, "end": 3679.12, "text": " So this is like the early two thousands, right?" }, { "start": 3679.12, "end": 3680.12, "text": " Somewhere in there." }, { "start": 3680.12, "end": 3683.88, "text": " Uh, the fact that we use software, so that's, that's stock WinApp, right?" }, { "start": 3683.88, "end": 3684.88, "text": " That, that one in the middle." }, { "start": 3684.88, "end": 3686.6800000000003, "text": " And then you could skin it." }, { "start": 3686.6800000000003, "end": 3689.88, "text": " I mean, this, this was the beginnings of a revolution." }, { "start": 3689.88, "end": 3695.52, "text": " And the idea that the revolution looks like this is just so disturbing to me." }, { "start": 3695.52, "end": 3697.28, "text": " Like this anime skin." }, { "start": 3697.28, "end": 3701.12, "text": " And think about this, this is right when we're, I mean, maybe just a little bit before we're" }, { "start": 3701.12, "end": 3704.92, "text": " skinning our, our my spaces like crazy." }, { "start": 3704.92, "end": 3708.6, "text": " Like we had so much more power over our technology back then we could skin." }, { "start": 3708.6, "end": 3710.56, "text": " And we used it so irresponsibly." }, { "start": 3710.56, "end": 3717.96, "text": " Dude, you want to know why Apple decided to lock everything down and like, like only Steve" }, { "start": 3717.96, "end": 3721.68, "text": " Jobs dictatorial vision would, would, would drive the world." }, { "start": 3721.68, "end": 3723.32, "text": " My favorite is the Dave Matthews one." }, { "start": 3723.32, "end": 3725.2, "text": " It's yeah, that's, that's the best one." }, { "start": 3725.2, "end": 3728.6, "text": " We'll look back on this past decade." }, { "start": 3728.6, "end": 3729.6, "text": " This decade." }, { "start": 3729.6, "end": 3735.84, "text": " It's like, why would you want that software on your computer?" }, { "start": 3735.84, "end": 3740.54, "text": " Why would you think to yourself, every time I want to listen to a song, I want this gigantic" }, { "start": 3740.54, "end": 3744.04, "text": " like bitmap of Dave Matthews to like, look at me." }, { "start": 3744.04, "end": 3745.16, "text": " We did Winamp skins." }, { "start": 3745.16, "end": 3746.16, "text": " We did my space." }, { "start": 3746.16, "end": 3747.16, "text": " Oh my God." }, { "start": 3747.16, "end": 3748.16, "text": " The Van Helsing one." }, { "start": 3748.16, "end": 3749.16, "text": " And we've been in timeout." }, { "start": 3749.16, "end": 3750.16, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3750.16, "end": 3751.16, "text": " The technology industry put us in timeout." }, { "start": 3751.16, "end": 3752.16, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3752.16, "end": 3753.96, "text": " And now Steve Jobs put us in timeout." }, { "start": 3753.96, "end": 3754.96, "text": " Facebook put us in timeout." }, { "start": 3754.96, "end": 3755.96, "text": " By the way." }, { "start": 3755.96, "end": 3758.32, "text": " So we looked at, uh, yeah, Facebook, but then jobs." }, { "start": 3758.32, "end": 3763.56, "text": " So we looked at the original, um, that actually, that, that triangular one is not, not so bad," }, { "start": 3763.56, "end": 3766, "text": " but we looked at the original iTunes keynote." }, { "start": 3766, "end": 3768.48, "text": " Can I just point this out?" }, { "start": 3768.48, "end": 3769.48, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 3769.48, "end": 3773.08, "text": " So he did that presentation in comic sands." }, { "start": 3773.08, "end": 3777.56, "text": " Oh, the original, uh, quick time stuff on windows was terrible too." }, { "start": 3777.56, "end": 3780.28, "text": " Like it didn't match metal." }, { "start": 3780.28, "end": 3781.64, "text": " This was the age of skinning." }, { "start": 3781.64, "end": 3785.4, "text": " Apple just had one skin, but jobs definitely responded to this by announcing by buying" }, { "start": 3785.4, "end": 3786.4, "text": " sound jam, remember?" }, { "start": 3786.4, "end": 3791.76, "text": " And then released iTunes and he had the, we're releasing iTunes, like keynote." }, { "start": 3791.76, "end": 3792.76, "text": " It's a big deal." }, { "start": 3792.76, "end": 3793.76, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 3793.76, "end": 3796.32, "text": " And you're like, put up, he put up all these skins and it was like, this is ugly and confusing" }, { "start": 3796.32, "end": 3797.32, "text": " and hard to use." }, { "start": 3797.32, "end": 3798.32, "text": " We've got to think." }, { "start": 3798.32, "end": 3803.8, "text": " Like the whole presentation, all the slides were in comic sands and it's like, you, you" }, { "start": 3803.8, "end": 3807.1600000000003, "text": " got to try to tell that was a subtle troll." }, { "start": 3807.1600000000003, "end": 3812.44, "text": " He was trying to tell if I'm going to have to like release windows software." }, { "start": 3812.44, "end": 3813.44, "text": " No, it wasn't." }, { "start": 3813.44, "end": 3814.44, "text": " I'm doing it with the math." }, { "start": 3814.44, "end": 3815.44, "text": " Oh, was it?" }, { "start": 3815.44, "end": 3816.44, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3816.44, "end": 3817.44, "text": " Shoot." }, { "start": 3817.44, "end": 3818.44, "text": " That was a really good joke until you gave me the truth." }, { "start": 3818.44, "end": 3819.44, "text": " No, it was incredible." }, { "start": 3819.44, "end": 3820.44, "text": " What is happening in my ears?" }, { "start": 3820.44, "end": 3821.44, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3821.44, "end": 3826.44, "text": " I was wondering when the llama, the llama, I forgot about the llama." }, { "start": 3826.44, "end": 3827.44, "text": " What?" }, { "start": 3827.44, "end": 3828.44, "text": " How did you forget about the llama?" }, { "start": 3828.44, "end": 3829.44, "text": " I didn't use Winamp man." }, { "start": 3829.44, "end": 3830.44, "text": " This software, this software." }, { "start": 3830.44, "end": 3831.44, "text": " Do you see it?" }, { "start": 3831.44, "end": 3832.44, "text": " I had, I had dignity." }, { "start": 3832.44, "end": 3837.96, "text": " I had a Rio, I had a creative Rio and I used wherever, I mean, I, I realized what I just" }, { "start": 3837.96, "end": 3838.96, "text": " said." }, { "start": 3838.96, "end": 3839.96, "text": " I had dignity." }, { "start": 3839.96, "end": 3841.28, "text": " I used the hell out of Winamp." }, { "start": 3841.28, "end": 3842.44, "text": " It was great." }, { "start": 3842.44, "end": 3847.04, "text": " But can you, this is a software that I literally like, I couldn't install this on my mom's" }, { "start": 3847.04, "end": 3851, "text": " computer because it talks about whipping a llama's ass." }, { "start": 3851, "end": 3852, "text": " Winamp." }, { "start": 3852, "end": 3853, "text": " Winamp." }, { "start": 3853, "end": 3854.48, "text": " It really whips the llama's ass." }, { "start": 3854.48, "end": 3855.48, "text": " What a time." }, { "start": 3855.48, "end": 3858.16, "text": " It was the, it was the wild West." }, { "start": 3858.16, "end": 3859.16, "text": " It was, we need to get back to this." }, { "start": 3859.16, "end": 3860.16, "text": " Technology is free." }, { "start": 3860.16, "end": 3861.16, "text": " Exploration." }, { "start": 3861.16, "end": 3862.16, "text": " All right." }, { "start": 3862.16, "end": 3863.16, "text": " I'm going to slow down." }, { "start": 3863.16, "end": 3864.16, "text": " May 30th, 2007." }, { "start": 3864.16, "end": 3868.68, "text": " I'm going to edit the CSS of Facebook and, um, and make a skin." }, { "start": 3868.68, "end": 3873.32, "text": " John, I'm going to put this, I'm going to put this keynote video at the top of our," }, { "start": 3873.32, "end": 3874.32, "text": " uh, of our doc." }, { "start": 3874.32, "end": 3875.8, "text": " There you go." }, { "start": 3875.8, "end": 3876.8, "text": " Just watch." }, { "start": 3876.8, "end": 3877.8, "text": " It's there." }, { "start": 3877.8, "end": 3878.8, "text": " It's" }, { "start": 3878.8, "end": 3879.8, "text": " We're working on bringing up the video." }, { "start": 3879.8, "end": 3880.8, "text": " Hey guys, let's do some dead air." }, { "start": 3880.8, "end": 3881.8, "text": " Dead air." }, { "start": 3881.8, "end": 3882.8, "text": " Dead air." }, { "start": 3882.8, "end": 3883.8, "text": " Dead air." }, { "start": 3883.8, "end": 3885.8, "text": " Go best." }, { "start": 3885.8, "end": 3886.8, "text": " All right." }, { "start": 3886.8, "end": 3890.44, "text": " We probably have one more thing to talk about before we watch this comic sand situation." }, { "start": 3890.44, "end": 3891.44, "text": " What is it?" }, { "start": 3891.44, "end": 3893.6000000000004, "text": " Uh, well, the Moto X is sitting over there." }, { "start": 3893.6000000000004, "end": 3894.6000000000004, "text": " Oh yeah." }, { "start": 3894.6000000000004, "end": 3895.6000000000004, "text": " So, uh, yeah, this is insane." }, { "start": 3895.6000000000004, "end": 3896.92, "text": " This is a victory for freedom." }, { "start": 3896.92, "end": 3897.92, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3897.92, "end": 3903.0800000000004, "text": " So, uh, Moto X, uh, has, was updated to 4.4 KitKat on Verizon first." }, { "start": 3903.0800000000004, "end": 3904.0800000000004, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3904.0800000000004, "end": 3906.0800000000004, "text": " And then it came out on T-Mobile." }, { "start": 3906.0800000000004, "end": 3908.0800000000004, "text": " It's come out on the dev units today." }, { "start": 3908.0800000000004, "end": 3909.0800000000004, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3909.0800000000004, "end": 3910.0800000000004, "text": " It's like, what?" }, { "start": 3910.0800000000004, "end": 3911.0800000000004, "text": " That makes no sense to me." }, { "start": 3911.0800000000004, "end": 3912.0800000000004, "text": " Came out on Verizon first." }, { "start": 3912.08, "end": 3916.64, "text": " So, you know, it's, it, first of all, it doesn't have the Nexus 5 launcher." }, { "start": 3916.64, "end": 3918.64, "text": " I told you so." }, { "start": 3918.64, "end": 3919.64, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3919.64, "end": 3921.56, "text": " No, that's it's Google scan on Android." }, { "start": 3921.56, "end": 3922.56, "text": " That's right." }, { "start": 3922.56, "end": 3923.56, "text": " Theory." }, { "start": 3923.56, "end": 3924.56, "text": " But otherwise, you know, it's KitKat." }, { "start": 3924.56, "end": 3925.56, "text": " It does all the stuff." }, { "start": 3925.56, "end": 3927.12, "text": " It does this thing where you can say, okay, Google now." }, { "start": 3927.12, "end": 3930.7999999999997, "text": " Oh, it's not, it's not trained to my voice, but you can like ask where it is and it'll" }, { "start": 3930.7999999999997, "end": 3931.7999999999997, "text": " start beeping." }, { "start": 3931.7999999999997, "end": 3939.64, "text": " By the way, by the way, I just realized I have the podcasts up, the podcast topics up" }, { "start": 3939.64, "end": 3940.64, "text": " for 2011 September." }, { "start": 3940.64, "end": 3941.64, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 3941.64, "end": 3945.68, "text": " So you've been really confused this whole time." }, { "start": 3945.68, "end": 3948.2799999999997, "text": " Sprint sues to block AT&T T-Mobile." }, { "start": 3948.2799999999997, "end": 3952.8399999999997, "text": " It really doesn't feel all that different from 4.3, but what's crazy is that it came" }, { "start": 3952.8399999999997, "end": 3954.6, "text": " out on a Verizon phone first." }, { "start": 3954.6, "end": 3958.24, "text": " It's out before 4.4 is available on the Nexus 4." }, { "start": 3958.24, "end": 3959.24, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3959.24, "end": 3960.7999999999997, "text": " Also the Google experience devices." }, { "start": 3960.7999999999997, "end": 3961.7999999999997, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 3961.7999999999997, "end": 3962.7999999999997, "text": " Thank you very much, Google." }, { "start": 3962.7999999999997, "end": 3964.3599999999997, "text": " I spent $500 on that phone." }, { "start": 3964.3599999999997, "end": 3966.3599999999997, "text": " No, $550 on HTC One." }, { "start": 3966.3599999999997, "end": 3967.3599999999997, "text": " I thought your screen was glitched." }, { "start": 3967.3599999999997, "end": 3968.3599999999997, "text": " It was supposed to get updates." }, { "start": 3968.3599999999997, "end": 3969.3599999999997, "text": " No, wood pattern was weird." }, { "start": 3969.36, "end": 3971.96, "text": " And the Verizon Moto X got it first." }, { "start": 3971.96, "end": 3973.92, "text": " So I feel like a chump." }, { "start": 3973.92, "end": 3974.92, "text": " Cool." }, { "start": 3974.92, "end": 3975.92, "text": " Cool phone." }, { "start": 3975.92, "end": 3976.92, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3976.92, "end": 3977.92, "text": " You know, these things are dirt cheap now." }, { "start": 3977.92, "end": 3979.88, "text": " They're selling for like 50 bucks or a hundred bucks or a penny." }, { "start": 3979.88, "end": 3982.6, "text": " I'm sure Black Friday you'll be able to get it for free on contract everywhere." }, { "start": 3982.6, "end": 3985.48, "text": " Well, they're, they're, they're a penny on contract too." }, { "start": 3985.48, "end": 3986.48, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3986.48, "end": 3990.92, "text": " So, uh, just, I don't know what, what I can say about how insane it is that Verizon got" }, { "start": 3990.92, "end": 3994.8, "text": " it first other than like, I, I, the fact that it's Verizon and not T-Mobile or AT&T is" }, { "start": 3994.8, "end": 3995.8, "text": " right." }, { "start": 3995.8, "end": 3999.1200000000003, "text": " Cause like Verizon's look, Verizon Motorola very close." }, { "start": 3999.12, "end": 4000.8399999999997, "text": " You know, they're probably in exchange." }, { "start": 4000.8399999999997, "end": 4004.3599999999997, "text": " The next droid has to feature actual knives that shoot out of it and kill bystanders." }, { "start": 4004.3599999999997, "end": 4006.7599999999998, "text": " Like, you know, it's just a thing." }, { "start": 4006.7599999999998, "end": 4010.08, "text": " By the way, the original iTunes was super ugly." }, { "start": 4010.08, "end": 4014.46, "text": " Just I mean the fact that we went from Winamp and then this was an improvement." }, { "start": 4014.46, "end": 4015.46, "text": " Do it, do it." }, { "start": 4015.46, "end": 4016.46, "text": " Look at this." }, { "start": 4016.46, "end": 4017.46, "text": " What is this?" }, { "start": 4017.46, "end": 4018.46, "text": " Comic Sans." }, { "start": 4018.46, "end": 4019.46, "text": " No, that's, that's marker felt." }, { "start": 4019.46, "end": 4020.46, "text": " That's marker felt." }, { "start": 4020.46, "end": 4021.46, "text": " Oh, that's even better." }, { "start": 4021.46, "end": 4022.46, "text": " Gosh, be live." }, { "start": 4022.46, "end": 4025.04, "text": " A font that everybody else hates just slightly less than mark." }, { "start": 4025.04, "end": 4027.4, "text": " Yeah, but Steve Jobs clearly loved." }, { "start": 4027.4, "end": 4029.4, "text": " That was the big drama." }, { "start": 4029.4, "end": 4032.88, "text": " But the notes ahead, yeah, the notes and they took it all out and out." }, { "start": 4032.88, "end": 4037.32, "text": " So can we skip ahead to the actual iTunes interface and brush metal because the fact" }, { "start": 4037.32, "end": 4042.88, "text": " that we thought that was like a breath of fresh air indicates the depths to which software" }, { "start": 4042.88, "end": 4044.96, "text": " design like, come on." }, { "start": 4044.96, "end": 4050.48, "text": " Well the first time we saw this UI was when quick time for came out." }, { "start": 4050.48, "end": 4055.84, "text": " And remember when quick time for came out alongside the new star Wars trailer." }, { "start": 4055.84, "end": 4058.36, "text": " So we all got a lot of brush." }, { "start": 4058.36, "end": 4059.7200000000003, "text": " Can we just get the audio of this?" }, { "start": 4059.7200000000003, "end": 4061.52, "text": " I mean this is like classic Steve Jobs." }, { "start": 4061.52, "end": 4063.92, "text": " All he's doing in this presentation." }, { "start": 4063.92, "end": 4064.92, 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"end": 4148.16, "text": " Oh, that would be incredible." }, { "start": 4148.16, "end": 4153.32, "text": " I mean, I mean it would also be a live in that world where vomit just pours out of my" }, { "start": 4153.32, "end": 4155.8, "text": " eyes every time I look at any computer ever." }, { "start": 4155.8, "end": 4156.8, "text": " I've on it." }, { "start": 4156.8, "end": 4157.8, "text": " The Neil I have to tell story." }, { "start": 4157.8, "end": 4160.4, "text": " No, but it would be a lower case." }, { "start": 4160.4, "end": 4161.5599999999995, "text": " I, Nope." }, { "start": 4161.5599999999995, "end": 4162.5599999999995, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 4162.5599999999995, "end": 4163.5599999999995, "text": " That was the verge cast." }, { "start": 4163.5599999999995, "end": 4164.5599999999995, "text": " Everyone." }, { "start": 4164.5599999999995, "end": 4165.5599999999995, "text": " I'm really sorry that that happened." }, { "start": 4165.56, "end": 4170.320000000001, "text": " You were doing so good at the end." }, { "start": 4170.320000000001, "end": 4173, "text": " Take that left turn." }, { "start": 4173, "end": 4175.6, "text": " I'm glad that we just mostly played with twice today." }, { "start": 4175.6, "end": 4176.6, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4176.6, "end": 4177.6, "text": " No, no, no." }, { "start": 4177.6, "end": 4178.6, "text": " How about that?" }, { "start": 4178.6, "end": 4179.6, "text": " And I say running health care." }, { "start": 4179.6, "end": 4180.6, "text": " I got my right." }, { "start": 4180.6, "end": 4181.6, "text": " Also that happened." }, { "start": 4181.6, "end": 4182.6, "text": " I was trying to tell you that I did a kid." }, { "start": 4182.6, "end": 4183.6, "text": " You got to tell me that." }, { "start": 4183.6, "end": 4184.6, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 4184.6, "end": 4185.6, "text": " I'm just kidding." }, { "start": 4185.6, "end": 4186.6, "text": " I'm just kidding." }, { "start": 4186.6, "end": 4187.6, "text": " I'm just kidding." }, { "start": 4187.6, "end": 4188.6, "text": " You didn't." }, { "start": 4188.6, "end": 4189.6, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 4189.6, "end": 4190.6, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 4190.6, "end": 4191.6, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 4191.6, "end": 4192.6, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 4192.6, "end": 4193.6, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 4193.6, "end": 4194.6, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 4194.6, "end": 4195.6, "text": " I didn't care what you're saying." }, { "start": 4195.6, "end": 4196.6, "text": " I didn't care enough to make words." }, { "start": 4196.6, "end": 4197.6, "text": " I don't care to know." }, { "start": 4197.6, "end": 4198.6, "text": " I don't know enough to care." }, { "start": 4198.6, "end": 4199.6, "text": " All right." }, { "start": 4199.6, "end": 4200.6, "text": " Well that was an experience for everyone." }, { "start": 4200.6, "end": 4201.6, "text": " Can you do it this time?" }, { "start": 4201.6, "end": 4202.6, "text": " Can you wrap it up?" }, { "start": 4202.6, "end": 4214.88, "text": " As usual, we apologize to the audience for the loss of your time and there are many ways" }, { "start": 4214.88, "end": 4215.88, "text": " to get ahold of us." }, { "start": 4215.88, "end": 4217.160000000001, "text": " You can attack us on Twitter." }, { "start": 4217.160000000001, "end": 4218.160000000001, "text": " I'm reckless." }, { "start": 4218.160000000001, "end": 4221.3, "text": " Bon bones on back lawn trolling you." }, { "start": 4221.3, "end": 4222.3, "text": " Back lawn." }, { "start": 4222.3, "end": 4223.3, "text": " Future Paul." }, { "start": 4223.3, "end": 4225.4800000000005, "text": " Send me all your Winamp skins." }, { "start": 4225.4800000000005, "end": 4226.4800000000005, "text": " Please." }, { "start": 4226.4800000000005, "end": 4229.2, "text": " The more Winamp skins we can collect, the better." }, { "start": 4229.2, "end": 4230.2, "text": " You can." }, { "start": 4230.2, "end": 4232.320000000001, "text": " We should get a Winamp skin for our live stream player." }, { "start": 4232.320000000001, "end": 4234.6, "text": " I'm pretty sure we can." }, { "start": 4234.6, "end": 4235.6, "text": " What we'll think about." }, { "start": 4235.6, "end": 4236.6, "text": " It'll just be you playing the guitar." }, { "start": 4236.6, "end": 4237.6, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4237.6, "end": 4238.6, "text": " It'll be great." }, { "start": 4238.6, "end": 4241.28, "text": " You can leave a comment on the post." }, { "start": 4241.28, "end": 4242.28, "text": " You can send us an email." }, { "start": 4242.28, "end": 4243.9400000000005, "text": " By the way, I was playing left-handed." }, { "start": 4243.9400000000005, "end": 4244.9400000000005, "text": " It's podcast to the verge of the comic." }, { "start": 4244.9400000000005, "end": 4245.9400000000005, "text": " I was in character as Paul McCartney." }, { "start": 4245.9400000000005, "end": 4246.9400000000005, "text": " I thought your character was Paul Miller." }, { "start": 4246.9400000000005, "end": 4247.9400000000005, "text": " Aren't you left-handed?" }, { "start": 4247.9400000000005, "end": 4252.34, "text": " I am, but I play right." }, { "start": 4252.34, "end": 4253.72, "text": " It's vergecast to the verge." }, { "start": 4253.72, "end": 4256.2, "text": " Can we just set up the other email?" }, { "start": 4256.2, "end": 4259.2, "text": " It's like, you know, it's going to be easier for us in the world." }, { "start": 4259.2, "end": 4260.8, "text": " I'm never going to get right." }, { "start": 4260.8, "end": 4261.8, "text": " Just set up the other email." }, { "start": 4261.8, "end": 4264.24, "text": " There's probably a phone number you can call." }, { "start": 4264.24, "end": 4266.24, "text": " No one will pick up." }, { "start": 4266.24, "end": 4267.24, "text": " That was it." }, { "start": 4267.24, "end": 4270.18, "text": " At this point, I believe I'm supposed to check my hair and threaten your family, so just" }, { "start": 4270.18, "end": 4271.18, "text": " assume those things happen." }, { "start": 4271.18, "end": 4293, "text": " Rock and roll." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 3, "text": " It's Thursday, November 21st, 2013." }, { "start": 3, "end": 7.8, "text": " I'm Ellis Hamburger and my favorite food is, you guessed it, ham." }, { "start": 7.8, "end": 9.4, "text": " This is 90 seconds on the verge." }, { "start": 9.4, "end": 14.280000000000001, "text": " Forget Wi-Fi, the FCC will soon propose allowing airline passengers to use cell phones while" }, { "start": 14.280000000000001, "end": 15.280000000000001, "text": " in the air." }, { "start": 15.280000000000001, "end": 18.400000000000002, "text": " Cell phone use will still be prohibited during takeoff and landing, but calls can be made" }, { "start": 18.400000000000002, "end": 20.64, "text": " once the plane has reached 10,000 feet." }, { "start": 20.64, "end": 24.46, "text": " The FAA, however, would still have to sign off on this, and the final decision of whether" }, { "start": 24.46, "end": 27.16, "text": " to allow cellular calls would rest with the airlines." }, { "start": 27.16, "end": 30.46, "text": " What happened to the good old days of hopping on a plane with nothing but a pack of cigarettes" }, { "start": 30.46, "end": 31.64, "text": " and fresh Mad Libs?" }, { "start": 31.64, "end": 35.6, "text": " Instagram for Windows Phone has finally arrived, but it comes with some caveats." }, { "start": 35.6, "end": 39.64, "text": " While the app is loaded with most of the familiar features seen on iOS and Android, it's missing" }, { "start": 39.64, "end": 40.7, "text": " video upload." }, { "start": 40.7, "end": 44.64, "text": " And Instagram will send you out to the smartphone's default camera app to snap a picture." }, { "start": 44.64, "end": 46.44, "text": " It will switch you back for edits, however." }, { "start": 46.44, "end": 49.879999999999995, "text": " Instagram says it will continue developing the app and adding new features to provide" }, { "start": 49.879999999999995, "end": 52.120000000000005, "text": " the best possible experience for users." }, { "start": 52.120000000000005, "end": 55.72, "text": " And finally, think the vampire trend on television is over?" }, { "start": 55.72, "end": 56.92, "text": " Nope." }, { "start": 56.92, "end": 62.400000000000006, "text": " Blade 2 director Guillermo del Toro is bringing his vampire book series The Strain to FX." }, { "start": 62.400000000000006, "end": 66.12, "text": " The series will follow the Center for Disease Control as it tries to stop a viral outbreak" }, { "start": 66.12, "end": 68.34, "text": " of vampirism from taking over New York." }, { "start": 68.34, "end": 73.28, "text": " The network has greenlit 13 episodes of the show, which will debut in July 2014." }, { "start": 73.28, "end": 75.84, "text": " FX seems to be banking on the show being a hit." }, { "start": 75.84, "end": 79.72, "text": " It's already hired writers to pen 10 scripts before the pilot has even aired." }, { "start": 79.72, "end": 83.36, "text": " And that's it for today's top stories, but coming up tomorrow, I host my first Reddit" }, { "start": 83.36, "end": 85.88, "text": " AMA BPD MAMHJ." }, { "start": 85.88, "end": 88.44, "text": " Ask me anything, but please don't make any more hamburger jokes." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 7, "text": " Oh, I didn't see you there. It's Wednesday, November 20th, 2013. I'm Nathan Seikert," }, { "start": 7, "end": 10.94, "text": " and won't you spend the next 90 seconds with me on the verge?" }, { "start": 10.94, "end": 15.280000000000001, "text": " Apple has received final approval for its planned Spaceship Campus from the city of" }, { "start": 15.280000000000001, "end": 20.580000000000002, "text": " Cupertino. By agreeing to build the so-called Campus 2, Apple will enter into a 20-year-long" }, { "start": 20.580000000000002, "end": 22.34, "text": " development deal with the city." }, { "start": 22.34, "end": 26.66, "text": " You know, I personally don't think it matters if you use Android or iOS. What's most important" }, { "start": 26.66, "end": 30.84, "text": " is that we build a world of unity, a world of one. Oh, did you happen to catch the League" }, { "start": 30.84, "end": 35.08, "text": " of Legends Season 3 World Championship last October? Because millions of other people" }, { "start": 35.08, "end": 37.36, "text": " did. Bubbly." }, { "start": 37.36, "end": 42.08, "text": " The October 4th event has claimed the title of largest eSports event ever. A whopping" }, { "start": 42.08, "end": 46.72, "text": " 32 million viewers watched the live stream. CBS's live stream of the Super Bowl from" }, { "start": 46.72, "end": 51.28, "text": " this past year attracted only 3 million unique viewers. Of course, I didn't catch the broadcast." }, { "start": 51.28, "end": 55.6, "text": " I was too busy caught up in the works of Oscar Wilde. I'm into literature." }, { "start": 55.6, "end": 59.4, "text": " And finally, before we get going, I have to tell you about what Vancouver is doing. The" }, { "start": 59.4, "end": 62.08, "text": " Canadian city is banning doorknobs." }, { "start": 62.08, "end": 67.04, "text": " Starting in March 2014, all new buildings erected in the city will have to include lever" }, { "start": 67.04, "end": 71.48, "text": " handles on their doors rather than the rounded knobs. With this move, the city hopes to make" }, { "start": 71.48, "end": 75.12, "text": " buildings more accessible to those with disabilities or dexterity issues." }, { "start": 75.12, "end": 79.92, "text": " I think it's really great what the city is doing. I don't know if I mentioned this before," }, { "start": 79.92, "end": 82.12, "text": " but I volunteer at a soup kitchen on the weekends." }, { "start": 82.12, "end": 88.4, "text": " That's it for today's top stories. Coming up tomorrow we do this again? You got my number?" } ]

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"text": " It's not ugly so much as it is just boring." }, { "start": 30.56, "end": 34.6, "text": " It looks like the ultimate sci-fi evolution of a VCR, or at least how people in the 80s" }, { "start": 34.6, "end": 36.019999999999996, "text": " would have imagined it." }, { "start": 36.019999999999996, "end": 40.04, "text": " Part glossy, part vented, and all very black and boxy and humongous." }, { "start": 40.04, "end": 44.519999999999996, "text": " There's a disk drive on the left side, a glowing capacitive Xbox logo power button on the front," }, { "start": 44.519999999999996, "end": 46.08, "text": " and really nothing else to see." }, { "start": 46.08, "end": 48.82, "text": " It's not pretty or well designed like the PlayStation 4." }, { "start": 48.82, "end": 51.4, "text": " It's just a box for all the many parts of the Xbox One." }, { "start": 51.4, "end": 53.239999999999995, "text": " With the new box comes a new controller." }, { "start": 53.24, "end": 57.940000000000005, "text": " The Xbox One controller feels absolutely identical to the Xbox 360's gamepad, except in the ways" }, { "start": 57.940000000000005, "end": 59.2, "text": " it feels better." }, { "start": 59.2, "end": 63.28, "text": " It has clicky D-pad buttons where the 360 had mushy ones, and has smoother triggers" }, { "start": 63.28, "end": 65.46000000000001, "text": " and a smaller bump for the removable battery." }, { "start": 65.46000000000001, "end": 69.88, "text": " But if you've been using a 360, it will take exactly no time to get used to the new controller." }, { "start": 69.88, "end": 73.2, "text": " There's a little more texture on the grips and a little less on the analog sticks, though" }, { "start": 73.2, "end": 76.68, "text": " they're still grippy thanks to new rims around their circular edges, and the whole controller" }, { "start": 76.68, "end": 79.36, "text": " has a higher, more curved profile." }, { "start": 79.36, "end": 83.04, "text": " The glowing Xbox button takes 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"end": 418.59999999999997, "text": " that I can't possibly do so." }, { "start": 418.6, "end": 422.64000000000004, "text": " The Xbox One is a great game console, absolutely, and out of the gate there are more good games" }, { "start": 422.64000000000004, "end": 425.16, "text": " like Rise and Forza than on the PS4." }, { "start": 425.16, "end": 426.84000000000003, "text": " But that's not what Microsoft is going for." }, { "start": 426.84000000000003, "end": 430.32000000000005, "text": " If you're buying a console right now, for right now, it's purely a decision based on" }, { "start": 430.32000000000005, "end": 431.32000000000005, "text": " games." }, { "start": 431.32000000000005, "end": 432.84000000000003, "text": " Pick the one with the games you want to play and buy that." }, { "start": 432.84000000000003, "end": 437.36, "text": " One, two, five years from now, that might change and Microsoft might have a big, wide" }, { "start": 437.36, "end": 441.32000000000005, "text": " offering with everything from great games to the greatest set-top box ever." }, { "start": 441.32000000000005, "end": 444.58000000000004, "text": " But there's a long, difficult road to that point, and I can only pass the time killing" }, { "start": 444.58, "end": 449.32, "text": " zombies for so long." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 6.84, "text": " Oh god, no one showed up. It's Tuesday, November 19th, 2013. I'm John Lagomarsino, one of the" }, { "start": 6.84, "end": 10.08, "text": " video editors, and this is 90 seconds on the verge." }, { "start": 10.08, "end": 13.56, "text": " It's already a big week for Microsoft, and their Nokia shareholders have approved of" }, { "start": 13.56, "end": 18.28, "text": " a $7.2 billion deal to sell off its handset business to the gang in Redmond. Microsoft" }, { "start": 18.28, "end": 22.32, "text": " is in the midst of searching for a new CEO to replace outgoing Steve Ballmer. Bill Gates" }, { "start": 22.32, "end": 26.16, "text": " held back tears as he discussed the search at Microsoft's own shareholder meeting." }, { "start": 26.16, "end": 30.84, "text": " Rumor has it that the CEO shortlist includes Ford's Alan Mulally, former Nokia CEO Steven" }, { "start": 30.84, "end": 33.52, "text": " Elop, and a sentient version of the new Xbox One Kinect." }, { "start": 33.52, "end": 37.88, "text": " Do you often struggle to budget your finances? Well, you're not alone. A new report from" }, { "start": 37.88, "end": 41.6, "text": " Reuters has discovered widespread accounting fraud at the Pentagon, resulting in more than" }, { "start": 41.6, "end": 47.16, "text": " $8 trillion getting lost in a mess of corrupted data and unauditable ledgers. The report doesn't" }, { "start": 47.16, "end": 51.2, "text": " allege any specific instances of fraud, but rather a widespread failure of accounting" }, { "start": 51.2, "end": 55.04, "text": " processes. The result has drawn widespread criticism from Congress and Pentagon leaders" }, { "start": 55.04, "end": 58.76, "text": " alike, but it's still unclear how the Department of Finance and Accounting plans to deal with" }, { "start": 58.76, "end": 59.76, "text": " the problem." }, { "start": 59.76, "end": 63.48, "text": " And finally, the Flying Circus is coming to town. Monty Python alum Terry Jones tells" }, { "start": 63.48, "end": 67.4, "text": " the BBC that the surviving members of the legendary comedy group will reunite for a" }, { "start": 67.4, "end": 71.03999999999999, "text": " stage show. Appearances by the group have been rare since Graham Chapman's death in" }, { "start": 71.03999999999999, "end": 75.92, "text": " 1989, and Monty Python hasn't performed new material since the 80s. The group is expected" }, { "start": 75.92, "end": 78.68, "text": " to make an official announcement at a press conference on Thursday." }, { "start": 78.68, "end": 82.08, "text": " That's it for today's top stories. Coming up tomorrow, maybe I'll get to do this again." }, { "start": 82.08, "end": 85.32, "text": " I'm sorry, sorry guys, here. Tuesday, November 19th. No, we already did it." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 3.2800000000000002, "text": " Hey, it's Ellis with The Verge." }, { "start": 3.2800000000000002, "end": 6.84, "text": " So a lot of stylists out there claim to be the best for writing, drawing, and sketching" }, { "start": 6.84, "end": 7.92, "text": " on tablets." }, { "start": 7.92, "end": 12.88, "text": " The company 53, whose founders worked on Microsoft's near-mythical Courier prototype, has long been" }, { "start": 12.88, "end": 15.08, "text": " known for its iPad drawing app, Paper." }, { "start": 15.08, "end": 20.12, "text": " But this is the first hardware device the company has made, and it's aptly called Pencil." }, { "start": 20.12, "end": 24.52, "text": " The stylus comes in two colors, walnut and graphite, and starts at $49.95." }, { "start": 24.52, "end": 28.68, "text": " The walnut model is the only device with magnets to stick it to your iPad, however." }, { "start": 28.68, "end": 32.32, "text": " It's branded as some rather novel functionality thanks to Bluetooth low energy." }, { "start": 32.32, "end": 36.08, "text": " Pairing is easy and done within the Paper app itself, unlike with most stylists which" }, { "start": 36.08, "end": 38.88, "text": " ask you to screw around in the settings menu." }, { "start": 38.88, "end": 41.44, "text": " In terms of features, here's what makes it stand out." }, { "start": 41.44, "end": 45.519999999999996, "text": " When paired with Pencil, the Paper app can now do actual palm rejection, known to ignore" }, { "start": 45.519999999999996, "end": 47.32, "text": " your hand as you lean on it." }, { "start": 47.32, "end": 51.239999999999995, "text": " There's also blending capabilities, so you can smudge color with your fingers, and perhaps" }, { "start": 51.239999999999995, "end": 53.4, "text": " shading at some point in the future." }, { "start": 53.4, "end": 54.72, "text": " Pencil's flashiest feature?" }, { "start": 54.72, "end": 56.6, "text": " You can flip it over to erase." }, { "start": 56.6, "end": 60.92, "text": " Pencil lasts about a month on a full charge, 53 says, and takes about 90 minutes to juice" }, { "start": 60.92, "end": 64.2, "text": " up completely using any conventional USB port." }, { "start": 64.2, "end": 68.14, "text": " Pencil's expensive for a passive stylus, but cheap for a Bluetooth stylus." }, { "start": 68.14, "end": 71.46000000000001, "text": " It inhabits an interesting space between the two categories that could feel just right" }, { "start": 71.46000000000001, "end": 72.92, "text": " for some people." }, { "start": 72.92, "end": 76.56, "text": " Pencil's up for pre-order today, and ships in early December alongside an update to the" }, { "start": 76.56, "end": 78.02000000000001, "text": " Paper app." }, { "start": 78.02000000000001, "end": 81.28, "text": " With its first hardware product, 53 has set a pretty high bar." }, { "start": 81.28, "end": 85.36, "text": " Now that the company controls both the hardware input and software in Paper, I'm excited to" }, { "start": 85.36, "end": 87.44, "text": " see what functionality they come up with next." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 6.44, "text": " Greetings, mobile accomplishers. Welcome to the Verge Mobile Show. This is episode number" }, { "start": 6.44, "end": 12.86, "text": " 69 for the week of November 18th, 2013. I am Dieter Bohm." }, { "start": 12.86, "end": 15.48, "text": " I am Vlad Sevo." }, { "start": 15.48, "end": 20.76, "text": " I'm Dan Siefert. And I am Chris Sigler." }, { "start": 20.76, "end": 29.12, "text": " You had a long pause. So I'm in a different room because I'm in New York, where I live" }, { "start": 29.12, "end": 32.480000000000004, "text": " now, forever and ever, at least for a while." }, { "start": 32.480000000000004, "end": 35.980000000000004, "text": " You had an opportunity, Dieter, to say that you were anywhere. You could have said anything" }, { "start": 35.980000000000004, "end": 40.02, "text": " in the world and the listeners would have had no option but to believe you and you decided" }, { "start": 40.02, "end": 41.400000000000006, "text": " to just go with New York." }, { "start": 41.400000000000006, "end": 42.400000000000006, "text": " You could have said…" }, { "start": 42.400000000000006, "end": 45.64, "text": " And if he had said Chicago, nobody would have believed him either." }, { "start": 45.64, "end": 51.68, "text": " That's not a very good troll. You people aren't even trying anymore. You're just" }, { "start": 51.68, "end": 55.400000000000006, "text": " like all I need to do is mention Chicago and it's an automatic troll. No, put some effort" }, { "start": 55.400000000000006, "end": 56.400000000000006, "text": " into it, Dan." }, { "start": 56.4, "end": 63.4, "text": " At least I'm not in Poughkeepsie or whatever. Poughkeepsie? How is it pronounced?" }, { "start": 63.4, "end": 64.4, "text": " Poughkeepsie." }, { "start": 64.4, "end": 67.4, "text": " No, it's not. That's a lie." }, { "start": 67.4, "end": 68.4, "text": " Yeah, it's Poughkeepsie." }, { "start": 68.4, "end": 69.4, "text": " Poughkeepsie. Right." }, { "start": 69.4, "end": 70.4, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 70.4, "end": 71.4, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 71.4, "end": 72.4, "text": " Which, you know…" }, { "start": 72.4, "end": 77.2, "text": " I have no retort because frankly, there's nothing really great to say about it." }, { "start": 77.2, "end": 81.64, "text": " Poughkeepsie is like a game that Winnie the Pooh plays when he isn't sharing his toys." }, { "start": 81.64, "end": 87.08, "text": " Listen, when I was in elementary school, there was many sections in first and second grade" }, { "start": 87.08, "end": 89.08, "text": " on spelling your address." }, { "start": 89.08, "end": 90.08, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 90.08, "end": 99.28, "text": " In any case, stop looking for Poughkeepsie, man. Rural lands are good for people. All" }, { "start": 99.28, "end": 103.48, "text": " of this urban environment stuff is what leads to depression and whatnot." }, { "start": 103.48, "end": 109.76, "text": " Actually, speaking of urban environments leading to depression, we need to have a long, deep," }, { "start": 109.76, "end": 117.80000000000001, "text": " heartfelt discussion about how bad all of the cell phone carriers, all the wireless" }, { "start": 117.80000000000001, "end": 123.16000000000001, "text": " carriers are in the city. I thought this was supposed to be like a metropolis. In fact," }, { "start": 123.16000000000001, "end": 130.88, "text": " metropolis is based on the city and there's supposed to be civilization here and connectivity" }, { "start": 130.88, "end": 132.88, "text": " and things working." }, { "start": 132.88, "end": 139.24, "text": " But no, AT&T is dropping everywhere and there's phantom data and Verizon recently, like it's" }, { "start": 139.24, "end": 143.36, "text": " come out that they're struggling. If you don't …" }, { "start": 143.36, "end": 145.8, "text": " I'm just going to get lucky enough to get a file." }, { "start": 145.8, "end": 155.04000000000002, "text": " You are screwed in terms of getting internet connection. What's going on? I don't know" }, { "start": 155.04000000000002, "end": 160.68, "text": " what to do because I get no AT&T signal at all in my apartment. However, I need to have" }, { "start": 160.68, "end": 164.88, "text": " AT&T signal so I need to get a micro cell but I don't want to pay an AT&T bill so" }, { "start": 164.88, "end": 169.4, "text": " I don't know if I can just get an AT&T micro cell without an AT&T account. I pretty much" }, { "start": 169.4, "end": 172.2, "text": " can't. So I pretty much have to pay for that but it's really not going to work because" }, { "start": 172.2, "end": 175.04, "text": " it's dropping the other places that need to go. I don't want to get a Verizon account." }, { "start": 175.04, "end": 178.4, "text": " I'm all about switching to T-Mobile but I want it to actually work outside of the" }, { "start": 178.4, "end": 180.51999999999998, "text": " city and apparently it doesn't." }, { "start": 180.51999999999998, "end": 185.35999999999999, "text": " So basically, I am giving up. I'm quitting smartphones forever. That's the only option" }, { "start": 185.35999999999999, "end": 186.35999999999999, "text": " that's left to me." }, { "start": 186.36, "end": 196.48000000000002, "text": " Awesome, so now you can run around with Lumia 1020. Get some brilliant photos of those urban" }, { "start": 196.48000000000002, "end": 198.88000000000002, "text": " environments with other graffiti." }, { "start": 198.88000000000002, "end": 203.04000000000002, "text": " I would just like to point out Dieter that you mentioned that Metropolis is based on" }, { "start": 203.04000000000002, "end": 210.36, "text": " New York City as if that means that it's supposed to be a wonderful place, a perfect" }, { "start": 210.36, "end": 215.16000000000003, "text": " utopia when in fact it's a dystopia. So I don't think that's a very good analogy" }, { "start": 215.16000000000003, "end": 216.16000000000003, "text": " to make." }, { "start": 216.16, "end": 221.4, "text": " I think Metropolis of Superman not Metropolis the movie." }, { "start": 221.4, "end": 226.88, "text": " Oh, well Metropolis the movie is also based in New York." }, { "start": 226.88, "end": 227.88, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 227.88, "end": 235.51999999999998, "text": " I don't know what's up with Chris. Is it that New York got more Michelin stars in the recent" }, { "start": 235.51999999999998, "end": 238.4, "text": " ratings in Chicago? Is that what's going on here?" }, { "start": 238.4, "end": 242.44, "text": " Chris is tired of us trolling him about Chicago." }, { "start": 242.44, "end": 247.32, "text": " It's also just not, I mean of course New York has more Michelin stars. The city is" }, { "start": 247.32, "end": 249.32, "text": " three and a half times as large." }, { "start": 249.32, "end": 250.32, "text": " So?" }, { "start": 250.32, "end": 251.32, "text": " That's not even a troll." }, { "start": 251.32, "end": 255.56, "text": " But the key metric is per capita. The key metric is per capita and I believe New York" }, { "start": 255.56, "end": 258.72, "text": " beats Chicago per capita as well. Am I right Chris?" }, { "start": 258.72, "end": 266.4, "text": " In 2014 they're actually I think about even. In 2013 New York was ahead but in 2014 they're" }, { "start": 266.4, "end": 267.4, "text": " about even." }, { "start": 267.4, "end": 270.48, "text": " Chris, it's just funny because you know man. You shouldn't know that." }, { "start": 270.48, "end": 276, "text": " The reason I know that the per capita metric exists is because of you Chris." }, { "start": 276, "end": 281.64000000000004, "text": " If you don't know all the cities, or excuse me all the restaurants that are Michelin star" }, { "start": 281.64000000000004, "end": 287.32, "text": " rated in your city, you are not doing your job as a human being." }, { "start": 287.32, "end": 290.52000000000004, "text": " How many Michelin stars does Sbarro's have?" }, { "start": 290.52000000000004, "end": 295.36, "text": " They're not even Bib Gourmand. They're not in the list." }, { "start": 295.36, "end": 302.2, "text": " Anyway please, let's go back to talking about something remotely phone related." }, { "start": 302.2, "end": 304, "text": " What do you guys recommend I do?" }, { "start": 304, "end": 308.84000000000003, "text": " So Dieter, part of the reason that all of it kind of sucks in New York City is because" }, { "start": 308.84000000000003, "end": 313.12, "text": " it's a metropolis, the big buildings and whatever. But no I agree with you. It's supposed to" }, { "start": 313.12, "end": 317.36, "text": " be this mecca for awesome cell service and what not and it's really not at all. It's" }, { "start": 317.36, "end": 321.72, "text": " funny because people ask all the time, what cell phone service should I get in Midtown" }, { "start": 321.72, "end": 323.12, "text": " Manhattan?" }, { "start": 323.12, "end": 327.64, "text": " And frankly none of them really work that great. Our office is located in Midtown Manhattan" }, { "start": 327.64, "end": 332.28000000000003, "text": " and you can walk a block and lose all your signal and walk another block and get all" }, { "start": 332.28000000000003, "end": 335.92, "text": " your signal back and then walk another third block and it's all gone again." }, { "start": 335.92, "end": 339.8, "text": " I don't mind losing signal, I just want my signal to be accurate. The problem that I" }, { "start": 339.8, "end": 346.24, "text": " have with AT&T in Midtown is it'll look like it's fine. It'll show me four bars of LTE" }, { "start": 346.24, "end": 349.12, "text": " and everything's awesome but really no, there's no data." }, { "start": 349.12, "end": 356.12, "text": " Yeah there's a Chipotle restaurant a couple blocks from our office and well I say restaurant" }, { "start": 356.12, "end": 361.6, "text": " with a very loose definition. But you can stand there and my AT&T phone will say that" }, { "start": 361.6, "end": 366.8, "text": " I have like five bars of LTE service and I can't like move any data in and out of that" }, { "start": 366.8, "end": 371.6, "text": " phone. It's just complete dead zone but the phone claims that it's got full service." }, { "start": 371.6, "end": 376.48, "text": " Well so this is exactly what HetNets are designed to solve right? I mean like the dream is that" }, { "start": 376.48, "end": 381.64000000000004, "text": " in the future, in the not too distant future, AT&T will have thousands of small cells deployed" }, { "start": 381.64000000000004, "end": 385.40000000000003, "text": " across Manhattan and this will cease to be a problem." }, { "start": 385.40000000000003, "end": 386.40000000000003, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 386.40000000000003, "end": 393.26, "text": " Because I mean you can imagine how like trying to accurately and completely cover urban canyons" }, { "start": 393.26, "end": 397.28000000000003, "text": " like you have in Manhattan with traditional cells is extremely difficult for pretty obvious" }, { "start": 397.28000000000003, "end": 401.76, "text": " reasons. Not to give AT&T a pass but you can understand why it's hard." }, { "start": 401.76, "end": 407.96, "text": " Yeah no and I wish that you know like it was – they should be giving out these micro" }, { "start": 407.96, "end": 413.48, "text": " cells like candy. I should just whisper micro cell and they should have a truck at my door" }, { "start": 413.48, "end": 414.48, "text": " with one." }, { "start": 414.48, "end": 418.8, "text": " They should come in bubble packs like at Walmart when you check out a prepaid phone, you just" }, { "start": 418.8, "end": 420, "text": " grab a micro cell to go with it." }, { "start": 420, "end": 424.28, "text": " They should replace phone books with micro cells and just have them piled up at your" }, { "start": 424.28, "end": 427.59999999999997, "text": " door getting wet from the rain instead of the yellow pages." }, { "start": 427.6, "end": 432.24, "text": " I've been thinking about micro cells for a long time and I think that they present" }, { "start": 432.24, "end": 437.88, "text": " a huge PR challenge for carriers which is why none of them talk about the fact that" }, { "start": 437.88, "end": 445.52000000000004, "text": " they have micro cells. They're not micro cells, nano cells or whatever, the Pico cells." }, { "start": 445.52000000000004, "end": 449.96000000000004, "text": " The reason they don't talk about them is because the fact that they exist is an admission" }, { "start": 449.96000000000004, "end": 454.76000000000005, "text": " that the network isn't perfect. So the only way they can offer them is very quietly and" }, { "start": 454.76, "end": 458.15999999999997, "text": " without advertising them and without talking about them. So that's why you just never" }, { "start": 458.15999999999997, "end": 459.15999999999997, "text": " hear about them." }, { "start": 459.15999999999997, "end": 465.44, "text": " Well yeah, but I mean everybody who uses the damn network knows that it's imperfect" }, { "start": 465.44, "end": 471.62, "text": " and that word of mouth particularly when it comes from such erudite mouths as Dieter" }, { "start": 471.62, "end": 478.52, "text": " Bones has an effect on people and it might influence you to go and look in with another" }, { "start": 478.52, "end": 479.52, "text": " carrier." }, { "start": 479.52, "end": 482.68, "text": " What I would say from my limited experience in New York is exactly what the guys have" }, { "start": 482.68, "end": 490.04, "text": " been saying is that it's extremely spotty. So for example, there was one instance last" }, { "start": 490.04, "end": 495.92, "text": " year when I was there where we had Verizon SIM cards and LT on Verizon when it works" }, { "start": 495.92, "end": 502.28000000000003, "text": " and when you have good connectivity was just amazing. It blew my socks off. It was like" }, { "start": 502.28000000000003, "end": 508.64, "text": " faster than what I get at home. But at the same time, if you can't get that consistent," }, { "start": 508.64, "end": 513.52, "text": " if you can't rely on it, then it's not that much of a comfort. What I would say is that" }, { "start": 513.52, "end": 518.84, "text": " London is rather the same way and it has a lot less of the excuse that New York does" }, { "start": 518.84, "end": 523.08, "text": " with the tall buildings because London doesn't have that many skyscrapers. But it's just" }, { "start": 523.08, "end": 528.64, "text": " as spotty with coverage and that includes both 3G and 4G. I mean I'm with the free" }, { "start": 528.64, "end": 535.04, "text": " network here and I have the equivalent of the femtosecond that you guys are discussing" }, { "start": 535.04, "end": 541.28, "text": " but AT&T. But I do have a question and Dieter is the man that's ideally suited to answer" }, { "start": 541.28, "end": 545.36, "text": " it which is how does New York compare to San Francisco in terms of coverage? I mean we" }, { "start": 545.36, "end": 547.04, "text": " can kind of guess but…" }, { "start": 547.04, "end": 553.7199999999999, "text": " So AT&T has completely, not completely, they have come a very, very, very long way in San" }, { "start": 553.7199999999999, "end": 559.1999999999999, "text": " Francisco to the point where it's probably the best network out there overall. It's" }, { "start": 559.2, "end": 566.32, "text": " better than Verizon in my experience in San Francisco and T-Mobile is not that great." }, { "start": 566.32, "end": 572.6800000000001, "text": " So it's actually not quite 100% flipped because I don't think Verizon is superb" }, { "start": 572.6800000000001, "end": 578.48, "text": " in New York. But I wasn't expecting AT&T to fall down as hard as it did in the places" }, { "start": 578.48, "end": 579.48, "text": " where I need." }, { "start": 579.48, "end": 584.84, "text": " Now that said, when AT&T does have signal in New York, it's fine and fast except for" }, { "start": 584.84, "end": 592.48, "text": " those phantom things. So it's mostly a coverage and getting around the buildings issue I think" }, { "start": 592.48, "end": 598, "text": " except in like really, really densely populated areas like Midtown. I don't know, I'm" }, { "start": 598, "end": 604.36, "text": " going to give T-Mobile a try. I'm going to give the Microcell a try. The other thing" }, { "start": 604.36, "end": 607.74, "text": " that sucks is like the perfect solution is I should just port my number to Google Voice" }, { "start": 607.74, "end": 611.52, "text": " and then like whatever week I feel like using something and I get angry at somebody else," }, { "start": 611.52, "end": 616.3199999999999, "text": " I can just bounce around. But no, Google Voice says that there's no number porting available" }, { "start": 616.3199999999999, "end": 617.84, "text": " for my phone number." }, { "start": 617.84, "end": 621.96, "text": " I don't trust Google Voice anymore. Like there's no telling when they're going to" }, { "start": 621.96, "end": 625.56, "text": " spring clean that thing." }, { "start": 625.56, "end": 628.48, "text": " They promise it's going to get built into Hangouts which maybe that's another reason" }, { "start": 628.48, "end": 632, "text": " not to trust it, right?" }, { "start": 632, "end": 636.04, "text": " I can't wait until that happens and then you have like one phone app and you've got" }, { "start": 636.04, "end": 640.72, "text": " your like regular phone calls and your Google Voice phone calls and like they're not like" }, { "start": 640.72, "end": 641.72, "text": " mesh well together." }, { "start": 641.72, "end": 642.72, "text": " I don't know how it works now." }, { "start": 642.72, "end": 647.24, "text": " Yeah, but like they did with Hangouts with SMS and Hangout chats and they tried to put" }, { "start": 647.24, "end": 651.28, "text": " them in one phone app or one app and they didn't talk to each other at all and ugh." }, { "start": 651.28, "end": 655.12, "text": " Yeah, I mean they've got to fix the multiple account problem." }, { "start": 655.12, "end": 661.5600000000001, "text": " You know Dieter, the other option that you have on AT&T and T-Mobile is CellFi which" }, { "start": 661.5600000000001, "end": 667, "text": " was originally launched with T-Mobile but is now available on AT&T as well. And it's" }, { "start": 667, "end": 671.8, "text": " like a booster but a little more clever. It's also a lot more expensive than a regular booster" }, { "start": 671.8, "end": 679.52, "text": " but you have a remote unit that beams the signal wirelessly to your base unit that rebroadcasts" }, { "start": 679.52, "end": 680.52, "text": " it." }, { "start": 680.52, "end": 683.52, "text": " But in order for that to work, your remote unit has to have a lick of signal, right?" }, { "start": 683.52, "end": 685.8, "text": " It's got to have a little bit to work with." }, { "start": 685.8, "end": 686.8, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 686.8, "end": 690.64, "text": " Well that might work and that one is nice because it'll just work and I won't have" }, { "start": 690.64, "end": 696.2, "text": " to actually like set it up a GPS located account with a carrier or whatever." }, { "start": 696.2, "end": 700.1600000000001, "text": " And it also doesn't rely on your internet. The problem I have is that when my Comcast" }, { "start": 700.1600000000001, "end": 703.2, "text": " dies which is about once a week, I lose my phone too." }, { "start": 703.2, "end": 708.88, "text": " So will a CellFi work across T-Mobile and AT&T or do I have to buy one for each?" }, { "start": 708.88, "end": 710.1600000000001, "text": " I think they're different units." }, { "start": 710.1600000000001, "end": 711.1600000000001, "text": " Yeah, that's what I thought." }, { "start": 711.1600000000001, "end": 716, "text": " Just before we wrap up this topic, I do want to mention that Sprint exists." }, { "start": 716, "end": 724, "text": " Oh, so speaking of Sprint and we'll talk more about this later on Republic Wireless" }, { "start": 724, "end": 725, "text": " but…" }, { "start": 725, "end": 726, "text": " Let's just talk about it now." }, { "start": 726, "end": 728.96, "text": " Sure, we can talk about it now." }, { "start": 728.96, "end": 734.12, "text": " So I tested the Moto X on Republic Wireless which you know, their whole deal, Paul Miller" }, { "start": 734.12, "end": 738.6, "text": " did a big piece on Republic a couple of years ago when they first launched in beta and their" }, { "start": 738.6, "end": 743.76, "text": " whole concept is that they offload as much voice and text traffic to WiFi as possible" }, { "start": 743.76, "end": 749.52, "text": " which is you know, more valid of a concept now than it ever has been because hotspots" }, { "start": 749.52, "end": 750.52, "text": " everywhere." }, { "start": 750.52, "end": 752.58, "text": " You have WiFi in your home, you have WiFi in your office." }, { "start": 752.58, "end": 756.9000000000001, "text": " So 90% of the time, you're just connected to WiFi and you don't even need a cell signal" }, { "start": 756.9000000000001, "end": 758.44, "text": " for anything." }, { "start": 758.44, "end": 764.2800000000001, "text": " And then for that other 10% of the time, they offload you to the cell network and their" }, { "start": 764.2800000000001, "end": 767.6800000000001, "text": " plan pricing is from $5 which is actually just WiFi only." }, { "start": 767.6800000000001, "end": 772.5, "text": " You don't have any cell access up to $40 for Sprint voice and LTE unlimited across" }, { "start": 772.5, "end": 779.08, "text": " the board and they have a, I want to say it's a $25 plan that's unlimited voice texting" }, { "start": 779.08, "end": 786.14, "text": " and 3G data and then a $10 plan that's unlimited voice and text but no cell data which is kind" }, { "start": 786.14, "end": 787.76, "text": " of unusual and interesting." }, { "start": 787.76, "end": 789.6800000000001, "text": " So you can see how that's a really good option." }, { "start": 789.6800000000001, "end": 793.84, "text": " You just want, you know, and also the $5 option, the WiFi only is great if you just want to" }, { "start": 793.84, "end": 797.34, "text": " have a phone to take overseas because then whenever you're in WiFi access anywhere" }, { "start": 797.34, "end": 803.0200000000001, "text": " in the world, it just acts as your regular phone, with your regular phone number." }, { "start": 803.0200000000001, "end": 805.24, "text": " And the Moto X is priced really aggressively too." }, { "start": 805.24, "end": 809.92, "text": " It's $29 off contract, locked to Republic but it has its own ROM." }, { "start": 809.92, "end": 810.92, "text": " It ships straight from Motorola." }, { "start": 810.92, "end": 814.52, "text": " They don't like cook it themselves and then like re-bundle the phone and then ship it" }, { "start": 814.52, "end": 815.52, "text": " out to you." }, { "start": 815.52, "end": 819.28, "text": " Motorola is actually making it in their factory and shipping it straight to you with the Republic" }, { "start": 819.28, "end": 820.28, "text": " ROM." }, { "start": 820.28, "end": 826.96, "text": " And it worked really well but what I wanted to say vis-a-vis Sprint is that they use," }, { 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goes completely dead." }, { "start": 890.44, "end": 892.1800000000001, "text": " Which is kind of unnerving." }, { "start": 892.18, "end": 896.7199999999999, "text": " So and then when people are talking it just kind of sounds like Charlie Brown's teacher." }, { "start": 896.7199999999999, "end": 899.7199999999999, "text": " So it's like, it's completely worthless." }, { "start": 899.7199999999999, "end": 903.3599999999999, "text": " Not completely worthless but moderately worthless as a calling device." }, { "start": 903.3599999999999, "end": 909.16, "text": " The irony is that like Sprint is, was the first carrier in the US to offer any HD voice" }, { "start": 909.16, "end": 912.8399999999999, "text": " option and there's so few that's, I mean T-Mobile does now." }, { "start": 912.8399999999999, "end": 916.28, "text": " They still have got a little bit of a lead in HD voice." }, { "start": 916.28, "end": 918.56, "text": " Well it's device specific right?" }, { "start": 918.56, "end": 919.92, "text": " Yeah that's the thing." }, { "start": 919.92, "end": 923.3199999999999, "text": " And if you don't have a device that works on it, I don't even know what the latest" }, { "start": 923.3199999999999, "end": 924.3199999999999, "text": " phones that work on it have." }, { "start": 924.3199999999999, "end": 925.3199999999999, "text": " Actually you know the funny thing?" }, { "start": 925.3199999999999, "end": 932.5799999999999, "text": " So when we went to this last Sprint event when they were talking about their crazy spark" }, { "start": 932.5799999999999, "end": 937.42, "text": " with the super fast, sorry I just bumped the microphone, the super fast internet speeds" }, { "start": 937.42, "end": 939.36, "text": " with the three different bands that they use." }, { "start": 939.36, "end": 941.3199999999999, "text": " Which is actually in New York." }, { "start": 941.3199999999999, "end": 942.3199999999999, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 942.3199999999999, "end": 947.8399999999999, "text": " So they were talking about HD voice and apparently HD voice gets encoded differently depending" }, { "start": 947.8399999999999, "end": 949.7199999999999, "text": " on the network hardware." }, { "start": 949.72, "end": 954.7, "text": " So like I forget who's where but like Ericsson is in one corner and like Alcatel owns another" }, { "start": 954.7, "end": 961.14, "text": " like the southwest corner and like somebody else does the northeast corner of the US." }, { "start": 961.14, "end": 967.32, "text": " And they'll get HD voice rolling but it will only work within the network so it will" }, { "start": 967.32, "end": 973.32, "text": " only work between like Alcatel networked calls and then it won't be until next year that" }, { "start": 973.32, "end": 978.36, "text": " they actually have HD voice working across those different networking systems." }, { "start": 978.36, "end": 979.36, "text": " It's completely screwed up." }, { "start": 979.36, "end": 983.44, "text": " Yeah, I mean it's not Sprint's fault, that's just how it works." }, { "start": 983.44, "end": 987.4, "text": " But it's insane to me that high quality voices is that complicated." }, { "start": 987.4, "end": 990.48, "text": " I would say it is Sprint's fault for demanding that there's a standard." }, { "start": 990.48, "end": 993.72, "text": " Like when they laid out the network they should have said the only way we're doing this is" }, { "start": 993.72, "end": 995.16, "text": " if this is interoperable." }, { "start": 995.16, "end": 999.04, "text": " Well that's what they're doing now with their new little boxes." }, { "start": 999.04, "end": 1002.4, "text": " You can't just like turn on any Sprint phone and call it any Sprint phone and get HD voice." }, { "start": 1002.4, "end": 1006.44, "text": " I know, I don't know what is different with the implementation with T-Mobile but as far" }, { "start": 1006.44, "end": 1008.6, "text": " as I understand it is not device 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1047.76, "text": " Speaking of things that are completely impossible, somebody explain to me why." }, { "start": 1047.76, "end": 1049.72, "text": " Somebody explain to me why." }, { "start": 1049.72, "end": 1054.82, "text": " The first like other than like the Nexus 7 or whatever, the first like big mass market" }, { "start": 1054.82, "end": 1064.72, "text": " phone to get Android 4.4 was on Verizon and it was a Motorola phone." }, { "start": 1064.72, "end": 1070.44, "text": " The Moto X on Verizon KitKat is rolling out for it right now and it beat everybody else," }, { "start": 1070.44, "end": 1076.96, "text": " it beat the Nexus 4, it beat the unlocked Moto X, it beat like everybody." }, { "start": 1076.96, "end": 1081.38, "text": " It beat the Google Play Edition of the H61 and the Samsung Galaxy S4." }, { "start": 1081.38, "end": 1085.1000000000001, "text": " The only explanation I can come up with is that Motorola and Verizon have been pretty" }, { "start": 1085.1000000000001, "end": 1091.84, "text": " cozy for many years but that still doesn't really explain it because Verizon is notoriously" }, { "start": 1091.84, "end": 1095.72, "text": " white-assed with firmware updates so I don't get it." }, { "start": 1095.72, "end": 1101.1999999999998, "text": " When I talked to them about the Moto G, I was like why don't you have KitKat?" }, { "start": 1101.1999999999998, "end": 1102.6799999999998, "text": " They were like well it just got released." }, { "start": 1102.6799999999998, "end": 1107.32, "text": " I was like yeah but you guys are in the PDK, the PDK is the platform developer kit where" }, { "start": 1107.32, "end": 1111.32, "text": " people like HTC and Motorola and Samsung get to look at it early." }, { "start": 1111.32, "end": 1112.8, "text": " They don't get special treatment." }, { "start": 1112.8, "end": 1116.52, "text": " They're like look yeah we get to look at the stuff early but it's not until the day" }, { "start": 1116.52, "end": 1121.6399999999999, "text": " that they actually release it that you can really start building on it and it's not" }, { "start": 1121.6399999999999, "end": 1127.74, "text": " until – you also have to get all the chip makers on board too so there's always going" }, { "start": 1127.74, "end": 1130.24, "text": " to be a lag time but we're working as fast as we can." }, { "start": 1130.24, "end": 1133.72, "text": " I was like okay well you know, that makes sense, it's still stupid but it's fine" }, { "start": 1133.72, "end": 1134.92, "text": " I understand." }, { "start": 1134.92, "end": 1139.16, "text": " So I was expecting it to be a little while but they blasted that thing out and then it's" }, { "start": 1139.16, "end": 1143.4, "text": " just up on Verizon of all places." }, { "start": 1143.4, "end": 1145.52, "text": " I don't know what to do about that." }, { "start": 1145.52, "end": 1150.84, "text": " I need someone to explain to me how to think about the universe now." }, { "start": 1150.84, "end": 1158.24, "text": " I suspect Chris has nailed it insofar as Verizon might have put pressure on Motorola to make" }, { "start": 1158.24, "end": 1159.24, "text": " that effort." }, { "start": 1159.24, "end": 1161.8799999999999, "text": " I feel like – well hang on there." }, { "start": 1161.8799999999999, "end": 1167.32, "text": " I don't think Verizon would because – No but if you're Verizon why would you want" }, { "start": 1167.32, "end": 1172.16, "text": " Motorola to put out the awesome software update on its branded phone when you could have it" }, { "start": 1172.16, "end": 1176.76, "text": " out on your filthy, loop grade droids that you make more money off of." }, { "start": 1176.76, "end": 1183.8000000000002, "text": " Lest we forget that the Verizon Galaxy Nexus which is actually listed as a Nexus phone" }, { "start": 1183.8000000000002, "end": 1189.6000000000001, "text": " with all of the factory images supplied by Google and everything is still on Android" }, 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and buy the unlocked phone, again it's your phone." }, { "start": 1248.8000000000002, "end": 1252.3600000000001, "text": " Nobody is going to Motorola and lobbying on your behalf." }, { "start": 1252.36, "end": 1259.12, "text": " Whereas Verizon in a rare moment of insight might have decided okay AT&T had this lead" }, { "start": 1259.12, "end": 1261.12, "text": " on us with the Moto Maker." }, { "start": 1261.12, "end": 1266.6999999999998, "text": " We can kind of steal some thunder back with the Moto X by having the KitKat update first." }, { "start": 1266.6999999999998, "end": 1270.12, "text": " That might be one reason why they might have pushed for it." }, { "start": 1270.12, "end": 1274.12, "text": " Alright, now that you put it in terms of politics and trying to screw the other guy, now it" }, { "start": 1274.12, "end": 1275.12, "text": " makes sense to me." }, { "start": 1275.12, "end": 1276.12, "text": " Okay, yeah." }, { "start": 1276.12, "end": 1277.12, "text": " But at the end of the day, hey if you're a Verizon Moto X customer." }, { "start": 1277.12, "end": 1281.56, "text": " I had to translate it into American, you're right." }, { "start": 1281.56, "end": 1284.52, "text": " At the end of the day, if you're a Verizon Moto X customer." }, { "start": 1284.52, "end": 1288.32, "text": " And if you're not a Verizon Moto X customer, you can be one for 50 bucks on contract." }, { "start": 1288.32, "end": 1290.08, "text": " So Moto Maker is available for everybody." }, { "start": 1290.08, "end": 1292.12, "text": " I think that expired." }, { "start": 1292.12, "end": 1293.12, "text": " It was 50 bucks." }, { "start": 1293.12, "end": 1296.8799999999999, "text": " It's crazy how cheap that got fast." }, { "start": 1296.8799999999999, "end": 1301.2, "text": " Yeah I mean it's now 100 bucks which is still a great deal for the Moto X." }, { "start": 1301.2, "end": 1305.52, "text": " But this past weekend they ran a deal which it could still be going on." }, { 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"text": " So nobody cares, it's reportedly only sold 500,000 units." }, { "start": 1337.4, "end": 1339, "text": " And yet nobody's buying it." }, { "start": 1339, "end": 1342.04, "text": " I don't get it." }, { "start": 1342.04, "end": 1346.88, "text": " I don't understand why the Moto X is a retail flop." }, { "start": 1346.88, "end": 1352.56, "text": " It has all the hallmarks of what a phone needs to succeed." }, { "start": 1352.56, "end": 1357.6, "text": " You can't tell me that people are going into stores and saying I know Samsung, I want a" }, { "start": 1357.6, "end": 1359.52, "text": " Samsung and I'm going to buy nothing but a Samsung." }, { "start": 1359.52, "end": 1362.36, "text": " I mean maybe they are." }, { "start": 1362.36, "end": 1367.88, "text": " I think a lot of people are and I think you know, a lot of the people that work in the" }, { "start": 1367.88, "end": 1372.7600000000002, "text": " stores, the actual sales reps are very familiar and very comfortable with 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1404.0800000000002, "text": " and buy." }, { "start": 1404.0800000000002, "end": 1408.2800000000002, "text": " It's the phone that I'm using and I make no apologies about using CyanogenMod on it until" }, { "start": 1408.2800000000002, "end": 1409.8400000000001, "text": " LG straightened out their skin." }, { "start": 1409.8400000000001, "end": 1412.64, "text": " You do have to apologize for using the backlight." }, { "start": 1412.64, "end": 1416.96, "text": " Guys I'm sorry, there's some breaking news here right now." }, { "start": 1416.96, "end": 1418.6000000000001, "text": " This is courtesy of Mike Isaac." }, { "start": 1418.6, "end": 1423.6, "text": " If you go to Twitter's blog post, they've got new search filters they're announcing" }, { "start": 1423.6, "end": 1424.6, "text": " for their app." }, { "start": 1424.6, "end": 1429.28, "text": " But more importantly, if you look at the Vine for it at about the two second mark, you can" }, { "start": 1429.28, "end": 1435.3999999999999, "text": " see some of the accounts that they've got that are set up around the Twitter office." }, { "start": 1435.3999999999999, "end": 1441.6, "text": " And one of them is Twaffus Shitter, which I'm pretty sure is the Twitter account for" }, { "start": 1441.6, "end": 1444.7199999999998, "text": " bathroom at Twitter's headquarters." }, { "start": 1444.7199999999998, "end": 1447.9199999999998, "text": " Wow, and it's not verified though." }, { "start": 1447.92, "end": 1450.76, "text": " No it's not." }, { "start": 1450.76, "end": 1454.88, "text": " All right, I'm sorry." }, { "start": 1454.88, "end": 1460.4, "text": " You were talking about the G2's back button and I had to interrupt you because I can't" }, { "start": 1460.4, "end": 1462.4, "text": " ever hear about that again." }, { "start": 1462.4, "end": 1465.88, "text": " Okay, so I'll just face it forwards and not face it back." }, { "start": 1465.88, "end": 1466.88, "text": " But seriously, I just want to mention." }, { "start": 1466.88, "end": 1471.52, "text": " No, no, I challenge your point because you just said that it's the best Android phone" }, { "start": 1471.52, "end": 1476.64, "text": " that you can buy and then you're just like I have to install software to fix it because" }, { "start": 1476.64, "end": 1478.16, "text": " it's broken out of the box." }, { "start": 1478.16, "end": 1481.5200000000002, "text": " Like that's not the best phone that you can buy." }, { "start": 1481.5200000000002, "end": 1483.5600000000002, "text": " This is the best phone that you can buy." }, { "start": 1483.5600000000002, "end": 1488.44, "text": " And I'm not alone, Paul O'Brien feels the same way and he's Paul O'Brien of Motocop" }, { "start": 1488.44, "end": 1490.1200000000001, "text": " and he's the smartest guy in England." }, { "start": 1490.1200000000001, "end": 1491.1200000000001, "text": " So there you go." }, { "start": 1491.1200000000001, "end": 1492.1200000000001, "text": " Wow." }, { "start": 1492.1200000000001, "end": 1493.1200000000001, "text": " But the reason I raise a G2." }, { "start": 1493.1200000000001, "end": 1495.24, "text": " Wait a minute, doesn't Stephen Hawking live in England?" }, { "start": 1495.24, "end": 1496.24, "text": " I think he lives in the US." }, { "start": 1496.24, "end": 1497.24, "text": " Is he in the US?" }, { "start": 1497.24, "end": 1498.24, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 1498.24, "end": 1499.24, "text": " I think he does." }, { "start": 1499.24, "end": 1501.8000000000002, "text": " He was in England for a while anyway." }, { "start": 1501.8, "end": 1506.56, "text": " But the reason I raise a G2 is because to me the G2 and the Moto X are pretty unique" }, { "start": 1506.56, "end": 1513.36, "text": " in just how crazy small the device is compared to the screen size." }, { "start": 1513.36, "end": 1518.76, "text": " I haven't seen phones like them, any other phones quite like them." }, { "start": 1518.76, "end": 1523.8, "text": " And if you were to tell me that I would love using a 5.2 inch phone, I would just say that's" }, { "start": 1523.8, "end": 1529.1599999999999, "text": " crazy but right now, having used the G2 extensively, I literally cannot go back to using an iPhone" }, { "start": 1529.1599999999999, "end": 1530.1599999999999, "text": " 5." }, { "start": 1530.16, "end": 1535.3600000000001, "text": " The storage size is too small for me and there's the whole Gmail app fiasco which is still" }, { "start": 1535.3600000000001, "end": 1538.0400000000002, "text": " not improving at all." }, { "start": 1538.0400000000002, "end": 1542.52, "text": " But my thinking is people might go into a store, they might see a G2, they might see" }, { "start": 1542.52, "end": 1547, "text": " a Moto X and they might say that's pretty nice hardware but I don't trust these guys." }, { "start": 1547, "end": 1550.44, "text": " They haven't done a good phone for months or years or however long." }, { "start": 1550.44, "end": 1555.88, "text": " Or they go in and they're like my mom or my kid doesn't own a G2, my kid doesn't own an" }, { "start": 1555.88, "end": 1556.88, "text": " LG, they don't own a Motorola." }, { "start": 1556.88, "end": 1559.8200000000002, "text": " Or like the example that Deater had." }, { "start": 1559.82, "end": 1563.08, "text": " It doesn't have the Tegra, right?" }, { "start": 1563.08, "end": 1565.32, "text": " That was me?" }, { "start": 1565.32, "end": 1567.6399999999999, "text": " You know when you're in the store and there was some old couple." }, { "start": 1567.6399999999999, "end": 1568.6399999999999, "text": " Oh yes, that's right." }, { "start": 1568.6399999999999, "end": 1573.24, "text": " Man, I got the brain on Vlad remembering that anecdote." }, { "start": 1573.24, "end": 1576.72, "text": " That was like six months ago." }, { "start": 1576.72, "end": 1579.32, "text": " Pretty soon we're going to be talking about legit pandas." }, { "start": 1579.32, "end": 1583.24, "text": " It's been a while." }, { "start": 1583.24, "end": 1584.24, "text": " Wow." }, { "start": 1584.24, "end": 1586.48, "text": " I think that actually predates me." }, { "start": 1586.48, "end": 1588.3999999999999, "text": " Oh, that was before you." }, { "start": 1588.4, "end": 1595.1200000000001, "text": " You were here for all of our triumvirate and for…" }, { "start": 1595.1200000000001, "end": 1596.1200000000001, "text": " We educated somebody." }, { "start": 1596.1200000000001, "end": 1600.6000000000001, "text": " Somebody on Twitter said that before us he didn't know what trifecta meant." }, { "start": 1600.6000000000001, "end": 1602.64, "text": " No, no, Troika." }, { "start": 1602.64, "end": 1605.48, "text": " Oh, Troika, that's right." }, { "start": 1605.48, "end": 1609.1200000000001, "text": " And hopefully we educated some other people about Quadriga because that's what we are" }, { "start": 1609.1200000000001, "end": 1614.48, "text": " now." }, { "start": 1614.48, "end": 1617.48, "text": " So let's talk about big phones then." }, { "start": 1617.48, "end": 1618.8, "text": " You don't want to talk about the Moto G?" }, { "start": 1618.8, "end": 1620.8, "text": " Oh yeah, I got the Moto G." }, { "start": 1620.8, "end": 1622.24, "text": " A lot of stuff happened last week." }, { "start": 1622.24, "end": 1628.76, "text": " So yeah, the Moto G is probably the best phone I've ever touched that has a retail price" }, { "start": 1628.76, "end": 1629.76, "text": " of under $250." }, { "start": 1629.76, "end": 1634.94, "text": " If they don't use Nothing But A G Thing as the song for the commercial for this phone," }, { "start": 1634.94, "end": 1638.2, "text": " they have missed out on one of the most amazing opportunities for…" }, { "start": 1638.2, "end": 1640.8, "text": " There's so many places they could go with it." }, { "start": 1640.8, "end": 1646.96, "text": " They could pair up with 50 Cent and market it as a G unit or Nothing But A G Thing." }, { "start": 1646.96, "end": 1649.48, "text": " I mean, there's so much." }, { "start": 1649.48, "end": 1650.48, "text": " That was good." }, { "start": 1650.48, "end": 1651.48, "text": " That's a good go." }, { "start": 1651.48, "end": 1652.48, "text": " That's good, Dan." }, { "start": 1652.48, "end": 1653.48, "text": " Yeah, I know." }, { "start": 1653.48, "end": 1654.48, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 1654.48, "end": 1659.1200000000001, "text": " And associating it as like the hip hop phone, I don't know." }, { "start": 1659.1200000000001, "end": 1660.52, "text": " You're kind of limiting your audience." }, { "start": 1660.52, "end": 1665.72, "text": " Yeah, but those songs are like, you know, they span all time and space in genre." }, { "start": 1665.72, "end": 1672.5, "text": " Yeah, I'm pretty sure that 50 Cent's song was number one on like all of the billboard" }, { "start": 1672.5, "end": 1675.56, "text": " charts that it could be on for quite a few weeks." }, { "start": 1675.56, "end": 1677.32, "text": " But then there's the other thing." }, { "start": 1677.32, "end": 1683.12, "text": " The Moto G is intended to be sold in areas that might not have a billboard chart, right?" }, { "start": 1683.12, "end": 1686, "text": " Because that's what Motorola is targeting here." }, { "start": 1686, "end": 1689.84, "text": " Hip hop is cross-cultural." }, { "start": 1689.84, "end": 1691.26, "text": " I bet they know." }, { "start": 1691.26, "end": 1694.26, "text": " It's American." }, { "start": 1694.26, "end": 1696, "text": " It crosses boundaries, man." }, { "start": 1696, "end": 1699.96, "text": " It's just everyone's American now." }, { "start": 1699.96, "end": 1702.04, "text": " Like that Rammstein song." }, { "start": 1702.04, "end": 1710.84, "text": " So the Moto G is an unlocked phone that is actually, it's kind of like a mid-range device" }, { "start": 1710.84, "end": 1713.92, "text": " that Motorola is selling at an entry level price." }, { "start": 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"text": " Yeah, the camera is not that great but it takes pictures." }, { "start": 1792.24, "end": 1798.12, "text": " I mean if you compare it to other $200 phones, it's a much better camera than what you normally" }, { "start": 1798.12, "end": 1799.12, "text": " get on a $200 phone." }, { "start": 1799.12, "end": 1806.96, "text": " You've got to figure this thing is going to be priced against the Lumia 510, the Firefox" }, { "start": 1806.96, "end": 1809.12, "text": " phones and then whatever…" }, { "start": 1809.12, "end": 1812.76, "text": " Samsung Galaxy Ace, whatever." }, { "start": 1812.76, "end": 1814.52, "text": " And those are like terrible devices." }, { "start": 1814.52, "end": 1816.1599999999999, "text": " Yeah, they're really bad." }, { "start": 1816.16, "end": 1819.3400000000001, "text": " So the – well, the Lumia 520 is pretty good." }, { "start": 1819.3400000000001, "end": 1823.5600000000002, "text": " I guess that's a rare exception but it's not an HD display, it's not 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themed and things like that." }, { "start": 2019.36, "end": 2021.1599999999999, "text": " But it just works well." }, { "start": 2021.1599999999999, "end": 2024.32, "text": " Just the One Mini doesn't have the Snapdragon 400." }, { "start": 2024.32, "end": 2025.32, "text": " First choice was the 600." }, { "start": 2025.32, "end": 2026.7199999999998, "text": " No, it's a 400." }, { "start": 2026.7199999999998, "end": 2028.7199999999998, "text": " The One Mini is definitely a 400." }, { "start": 2028.7199999999998, "end": 2030.76, "text": " Dual core 400." }, { "start": 2030.76, "end": 2031.76, "text": " I reviewed it man." }, { "start": 2031.76, "end": 2033.36, "text": " It kind of been a 400." }, { "start": 2033.36, "end": 2034.36, "text": " I think it was." }, { "start": 2034.36, "end": 2036.6799999999998, "text": " I could be wrong." }, { "start": 2036.6799999999998, "end": 2040.1599999999999, "text": " Then HTC just slipped down by me in that case." }, { "start": 2040.1599999999999, "end": 2047.4399999999998, "text": " Let's talk about the Lumia 1520, the giant phone." }, { "start": 2047.4399999999998, "end": 2056.8399999999997, "text": " Which also, this is a watershed device because I believe it marks the first time that we" }, { "start": 2056.84, "end": 2064.1600000000003, "text": " have written the word phablet in an article without immediately apologizing for it." }, { "start": 2064.1600000000003, "end": 2066.84, "text": " We broke down and did it." }, { "start": 2066.84, "end": 2067.84, "text": " That's the term now." }, { "start": 2067.84, "end": 2068.84, "text": " They're called phablets." }, { "start": 2068.84, "end": 2071.6400000000003, "text": " We've accepted that big phones are here." }, { "start": 2071.6400000000003, "end": 2074.6400000000003, "text": " We've accepted that Note 3 is a very good one." }, { "start": 2074.6400000000003, "end": 2080.28, "text": " We've accepted that the Xperia Z, whatever it is, is gigantic." }, { "start": 2080.28, "end": 2081.56, "text": " It's just what they are now." }, { "start": 2081.56, "end": 2085.28, "text": " They're big and we're just calling them phablets and we're not sorry anymore." }, { "start": 2085.28, "end": 2088.88, "text": " Evan puts that it's a Snapdragon 400 into the One Mini." }, { "start": 2088.88, "end": 2089.88, "text": " I was wrong." }, { "start": 2089.88, "end": 2090.88, "text": " Did Edwin?" }, { "start": 2090.88, "end": 2096.32, "text": " It doesn't happen very often." }, { "start": 2096.32, "end": 2099.88, "text": " Can someone explain to me why the Chronic is not on Spotify?" }, { "start": 2099.88, "end": 2103.92, "text": " I just want to play nothing but a G thing." }, { "start": 2103.92, "end": 2107.1200000000003, "text": " How long have you been looking?" }, { "start": 2107.1200000000003, "end": 2109.4, "text": " For like 10 minutes." }, { "start": 2109.4, "end": 2110.4, "text": " They're like 20 covers." }, { "start": 2110.4, "end": 2112.8, "text": " Just go to YouTube." }, { "start": 2112.8, "end": 2120.36, "text": " I would say every other mobile show Chris, you disappear and are focusing on something." }, { "start": 2120.36, "end": 2124.48, "text": " I assume that you're working because I know stuff is going on and the business of the" }, { "start": 2124.48, "end": 2125.88, "text": " version never stops." }, { "start": 2125.88, "end": 2129.6000000000004, "text": " Sometimes I'm doing that too but most of the time it's you." }, { "start": 2129.6000000000004, "end": 2130.88, "text": " But really you're not working." }, { "start": 2130.88, "end": 2135.6400000000003, "text": " You're just cruising Spotify." }, { "start": 2135.6400000000003, "end": 2139.6400000000003, "text": " No shame in the game." }, { "start": 2139.6400000000003, "end": 2140.6400000000003, "text": " Don't hate." }, { "start": 2140.64, "end": 2148.44, "text": " I can segue back because I interrupted by mentioning the Snapdragon 400 and the Lumia" }, { 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here." }, { "start": 2245.52, "end": 2248.08, "text": " You can just see how massive that on screen keyboard is." }, { "start": 2248.08, "end": 2254.64, "text": " It's actually the on screen keyboard is taller on the 1520 than it is on a next to seven" }, { "start": 2254.64, "end": 2259.48, "text": " which I find highly hysterical." }, { "start": 2259.48, "end": 2265.28, "text": " That kind of just gets to my point of Microsoft did the bare minimum to optimize Windows Phone" }, { "start": 2265.28, "end": 2268.36, "text": " 8 for a device this big or a screen this large." }, { "start": 2268.36, "end": 2271.56, "text": " They optimized most of their core apps right?" }, { "start": 2271.56, "end": 2275.24, "text": " Well they say they did." }, { "start": 2275.24, "end": 2279.9199999999996, "text": " You can see on the screen here I've got three columns going so I can have more tiles in" }, { "start": 2279.9199999999996, "end": 2281.66, "text": " one space." }, { "start": 2281.66, "end": 2287.4399999999996, "text": " It makes for a bit of a jumble and a lot of stuff going on so it's a bit intense." }, { "start": 2287.4399999999996, "end": 2289.68, "text": " You can see they're all flipping and all that fun stuff." }, { "start": 2289.68, "end": 2292.3599999999997, "text": " So I don't have to scroll as much which is nice." }, { "start": 2292.3599999999997, "end": 2295.56, "text": " None of the tiles can be stretched out to the full width so you are still limited with" }, { "start": 2295.56, "end": 2297.12, "text": " two columns." }, { "start": 2297.12, "end": 2302.16, "text": " But that is the biggest noticeable difference between this and every other Windows phone." }, { "start": 2302.16, "end": 2306.5, "text": " Microsoft says that it optimized the core apps but it did the bare minimum." }, { "start": 2306.5, "end": 2311.3199999999997, "text": " In the email app I can see about half of a more email in the list." }, { "start": 2311.3199999999997, "end": 2315.3999999999996, "text": " I can see one line preview more on the contacts." }, { "start": 2315.3999999999996, "end": 2320.12, "text": " I can see maybe like two contacts and on the app list I can see four more apps before I" }, { "start": 2320.12, "end": 2321.7999999999997, "text": " have to scroll." }, { "start": 2321.7999999999997, "end": 2322.7999999999997, "text": " But that's about it." }, { "start": 2322.7999999999997, "end": 2323.7999999999997, "text": " And that's what it does." }, { "start": 2323.7999999999997, "end": 2325.16, "text": " Any difference there?" }, { "start": 2325.16, "end": 2328.3199999999997, "text": " No, browser is exactly the same." }, { "start": 2328.32, "end": 2333.36, "text": " And so when you compare it to like, here I've got the 925." }, { "start": 2333.36, "end": 2337.6800000000003, "text": " What are you comparing to that amazing massive tripod in the background?" }, { "start": 2337.6800000000003, "end": 2341.32, "text": " It's like here's a huge 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iPhone horizontally so we can see if it's wider than the iPhone is" }, { "start": 2373.9599999999996, "end": 2374.9599999999996, "text": " tall?" }, { "start": 2374.9599999999996, "end": 2375.9599999999996, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2375.9599999999996, "end": 2379.6, "text": " I'm sorry, I'm trying to keep the screen on but I keep, you know, obviously it's a giant" }, { "start": 2379.6, "end": 2381.64, "text": " screen and I'm touching it as I move." }, { "start": 2381.64, "end": 2384.24, "text": " Yeah, so you can get an idea of how big that is." }, { "start": 2384.24, "end": 2387.2, "text": " So it actually doesn't fit in my front pocket." }, { "start": 2387.2, "end": 2391.4799999999996, "text": " I can't sit down with it in my front pocket and in my back pocket of my pants, it like" }, { "start": 2391.4799999999996, "end": 2393.4399999999996, "text": " sticks up by about half an inch." }, { "start": 2393.4399999999996, "end": 2398.3199999999997, "text": " So this is why you need a Galaxy Round or a G Flex, right Chris?" }, { "start": 2398.3199999999997, "end": 2403.68, "text": " The only pocket that I can keep it in is in like the inside pocket of a Blazer." }, { "start": 2403.68, "end": 2405.72, "text": " Otherwise it's just far too large." }, { "start": 2405.72, "end": 2409.52, "text": " It also doesn't fit in my American sized cup holders in my car." }, { "start": 2409.52, "end": 2414.56, "text": " Another point about the inside pocket of a Blazer which people might not appreciate," }, { "start": 2414.56, "end": 2421.36, "text": " I had an HC1 Max in that exact position and what would happen is that my jacket would" }, { "start": 2421.36, "end": 2424.88, "text": " start to tilt in the direction in which the phone is." }, { "start": 2424.88, "end": 2428.48, "text": " I'm not even joking, like it would just be leaning." }, { "start": 2428.48, "end": 2432.8, "text": " It's heavy as well, you know, Nokia phones aren't really light to begin with so you know," }, { "start": 2432.8, "end": 2435.52, "text": " the size of massiveness is heavy." }, { "start": 2435.52, "end": 2439.72, "text": " And so you know, the thing that I have, the issue that I have with it is that there's" }, { "start": 2439.72, "end": 2442.04, "text": " obviously a market for these big phones." }, { "start": 2442.04, "end": 2443.84, "text": " I think Samsung's proven that." }, { "start": 2443.84, "end": 2446.04, "text": " You know, there are three iterations into the Note line." }, { "start": 2446.04, "end": 2450.16, "text": " It's actually a really good device if you want a phone that's really giant, you know," }, { "start": 2450.16, "end": 2452.88, "text": " the Note offers a unique experience." }, { "start": 2452.88, "end": 2458.7, "text": " The problem is that Nokia and Microsoft aren't offering a unique experience with this and" }, { "start": 2458.7, "end": 2463.44, "text": " the software gives you the same experience you might see on a 1020 or a 925 without like" }, { "start": 2463.44, "end": 2469.4, "text": " really any difference as opposed to the extra column on your home screen." }, { "start": 2469.4, "end": 2473.2400000000002, "text": " How close is this thing to just like, you kind of just wishing that you had Windows" }, { "start": 2473.2400000000002, "end": 2475.12, "text": " RT on it?" }, { "start": 2475.12, "end": 2478.28, "text": " You know, who wishes they had Windows RT on anything?" }, { "start": 2478.28, "end": 2483.08, "text": " Windows RT has its own issues." }, { "start": 2483.08, "end": 2484.08, "text": " But you know, it's." }, { "start": 2484.08, "end": 2486.76, "text": " I think they need Windows 8." }, { "start": 2486.76, "end": 2488.44, "text": " I think yeah, that's what I was about to say." }, { "start": 2488.44, "end": 2492.2400000000002, "text": " Like I think a more fair comparison is to say like at what point do you wish it was" }, { "start": 2492.24, "end": 2495.64, "text": " just a Dell Venue Pro or Venue 8 or whatever they're calling it." }, { "start": 2495.64, "end": 2502.3199999999997, "text": " Or like here's a comparison to a 2013 Nexus 7 and you can see that it is nearly as big" }, { "start": 2502.3199999999997, "end": 2503.3199999999997, "text": " as the Nexus 7." }, { "start": 2503.3199999999997, "end": 2508.3999999999996, "text": " The difference obviously being that the Nexus 7 has real tablet software on it." }, { "start": 2508.3999999999996, "end": 2514.02, "text": " So you know, I think that the 1520 gives us a lot of preview as to like what the next" }, { "start": 2514.02, "end": 2518.6, "text": " Windows devices will be like with the awesome processor and awesome screen." }, { "start": 2518.6, "end": 2519.6, "text": " But man." }, { "start": 2519.6, "end": 2525, "text": " You know, never once in using any Windows phone have I ever said gee I wish I had more" }, { "start": 2525, "end": 2526, "text": " CPU." }, { "start": 2526, "end": 2527, "text": " Like." }, { "start": 2527, "end": 2528, "text": " Yeah, never." }, { "start": 2528, "end": 2530.16, "text": " It's just not an issue for that platform." }, { "start": 2530.16, "end": 2531.16, "text": " Right, right." }, { "start": 2531.16, "end": 2537, "text": " And I mean, unless you compare them side by side, you know, your 925 or whatever if you" }, { "start": 2537, "end": 2540.3199999999997, "text": " happen to own a Windows phone is not going to suddenly feel slow unless you compare it" }, { "start": 2540.3199999999997, "end": 2541.8399999999997, "text": " side by side with the 1520." }, { "start": 2541.8399999999997, "end": 2544.24, "text": " It is a tick faster in animations." }, { "start": 2544.24, "end": 2546.24, "text": " It's just a little bit more responsive." }, { "start": 2546.24, "end": 2548.68, "text": " It's scrolling is a little bit snappier." }, { "start": 2548.68, "end": 2553.56, "text": " But you know, like you said and like I said, Windows phone has never been wanting for more" }, { 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"text": " extreme as the 41 megapixel one." }, { "start": 2583.92, "end": 2588.28, "text": " But it is not as good in low light as the iPhone 5S." }, { "start": 2588.28, "end": 2591.48, "text": " It's definitely not as good in low light as the 1020 and it's just slow." }, { "start": 2591.48, "end": 2595.16, "text": " It takes a long time to open, a long time to take a photo and a long time to save that" }, { "start": 2595.16, "end": 2597.16, "text": " photo so it's kind of a bummer." }, { "start": 2597.16, "end": 2598.16, "text": " No." }, { "start": 2598.16, "end": 2599.16, "text": " That's terrible." }, { "start": 2599.16, "end": 2604.6, "text": " That was my little silver lining that I was hoping would be the truth with the new CPU," }, { "start": 2604.6, "end": 2605.6, "text": " the new processor." }, { "start": 2605.6, "end": 2606.6, "text": " Exactly." }, { "start": 2606.6, "end": 2610.08, "text": " And that's what Nokia said would happen." }, { "start": 2610.08, "end": 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2645.04, "end": 2648.6, "text": " and a 19 megapixel image and save both of those." }, { "start": 2648.6, "end": 2652.52, "text": " And that's really where it slows everything down is when it's saving those files." }, { "start": 2652.52, "end": 2658.2000000000003, "text": " The 19 megapixel image lets you recrop and do all those fun things with Nokia software." }, { "start": 2658.2000000000003, "end": 2663.08, "text": " The other option if you go into settings you can have it save a 5 megapixel JPEG and a" }, { "start": 2663.08, "end": 2668.7599999999998, "text": " 20 megapixel DNG file which is a raw format that is kind of universal." }, { "start": 2668.7599999999998, "end": 2673.7599999999998, "text": " When you do that you lose all of the ability to recrop and play with all the fun stuff" }, { "start": 2673.7599999999998, "end": 2674.7599999999998, "text": " on the phone." }, { "start": 2674.7599999999998, "end": 2679.48, "text": " So it's pretty much you know if you just want to throw it in Photoshop and tweak it from" }, { "start": 2679.48, "end": 2681.48, "text": " there." }, { "start": 2681.48, "end": 2685, "text": " I didn't actually spend a whole lot of time doing that because the last thing I want to" }, { "start": 2685, "end": 2688, "text": " do is take a photo off my phone and tweak it in Photoshop." }, { "start": 2688, "end": 2689.2799999999997, "text": " But if you want to do it it's there." }, { "start": 2689.28, "end": 2697.0400000000004, "text": " I think you'll have more fun with the 1020 doing that though because it's a better camera." }, { "start": 2697.0400000000004, "end": 2698.0400000000004, "text": " So yeah totally." }, { "start": 2698.0400000000004, "end": 2703.2400000000002, "text": " Dieter is prepared to own the 1020." }, { "start": 2703.2400000000002, "end": 2709.5600000000004, "text": " I think that's going to be the overwhelming theme of our podcast today." }, { "start": 2709.5600000000004, "end": 2715.5800000000004, "text": " No listen I mean I'm still just like dealing with the fact that like I've accepted that" }, { "start": 2715.5800000000004, "end": 2717.92, "text": " phones are this size now." }, { "start": 2717.92, "end": 2722.08, "text": " Yeah so I have the One Max with me as well so you can see." }, { "start": 2722.08, "end": 2727.04, "text": " The 1020 is about the same size as the One Max which I think we said was too big." }, { "start": 2727.04, "end": 2733.28, "text": " And then the Z Ultra is here and this is actually bigger." }, { "start": 2733.28, "end": 2737.58, "text": " So that's 6.4 inches." }, { "start": 2737.58, "end": 2739.56, "text": " These are phones." }, { "start": 2739.56, "end": 2742.36, "text": " You can put them up to your face and make a call." }, { "start": 2742.36, "end": 2747.88, "text": " Those are things with phone like features and capabilities." }, { "start": 2747.88, "end": 2751.48, "text": " And you guys are never going to convince me to say phablet." }, { "start": 2751.48, "end": 2754, "text": " I'm soon going to quit and say phablet." }, { "start": 2754, "end": 2759.46, "text": " I mean like I just kind of throw my hands up in the air because it's either use a lot" }, { "start": 2759.46, "end": 2763.76, "text": " of words to describe this or just say one word that I don't like very much." }, { "start": 2763.76, "end": 2765.2400000000002, "text": " What's the one word you don't like very much?" }, { "start": 2765.2400000000002, "end": 2766.2400000000002, "text": " Oh phablet." }, { "start": 2766.2400000000002, "end": 2767.2400000000002, "text": " Just say it man." }, { "start": 2767.2400000000002, "end": 2768.2400000000002, "text": " Phablet." }, { "start": 2768.2400000000002, "end": 2774.76, "text": " It's a fabulous day with your phablets." }, { "start": 2774.76, "end": 2778.76, "text": " Instead of this I think I just want the Porsche P989." }, { "start": 2778.76, "end": 2780.6400000000003, "text": " Are we seriously talking about that thing?" }, { "start": 2780.6400000000003, "end": 2781.6400000000003, "text": " Oh yes." }, { "start": 2781.6400000000003, "end": 2782.6400000000003, "text": " That has one." }, { "start": 2782.6400000000003, "end": 2784.92, "text": " I am going to do a live unboxing." }, { "start": 2784.92, "end": 2788.0400000000004, "text": " Wait did I get the numbers right on this phone?" }, { "start": 2788.0400000000004, "end": 2789.0400000000004, "text": " The P989." }, { "start": 2789.0400000000004, "end": 2790.0400000000004, "text": " What's it called?" }, { "start": 2790.0400000000004, "end": 2791.0400000000004, "text": " The P989." }, { "start": 2791.0400000000004, "end": 2792.0400000000004, "text": " P98982." }, { "start": 2792.0400000000004, "end": 2793.0400000000004, "text": " That's right." }, { "start": 2793.0400000000004, "end": 2794.0400000000004, "text": " P98982." }, { "start": 2794.0400000000004, "end": 2795.0400000000004, "text": " I got it right." }, { "start": 2795.0400000000004, "end": 2796.0400000000004, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 2796.0400000000004, "end": 2801.0400000000004, "text": " So to get the unboxing started I would just like to say that the outside of the box is" }, { "start": 2801.0400000000004, "end": 2802.8, "text": " a very fine texture to it." }, { "start": 2802.8, "end": 2806.6400000000003, "text": " We need to let people on Twitter know that we're doing a live." }, { "start": 2806.6400000000003, "end": 2808.1200000000003, "text": " Are you allowed to put this thing out there?" }, { "start": 2808.1200000000003, "end": 2810.0800000000004, "text": " Are you under any sort of embargo Vlad?" }, { "start": 2810.0800000000004, "end": 2813.36, "text": " A little late now." }, { "start": 2813.36, "end": 2820.44, "text": " Well if I had any shame I would just like not do it but yes I am allowed to put it out" }, { "start": 2820.44, "end": 2821.44, "text": " there." }, { "start": 2821.44, "end": 2823.44, "text": " Okay I'm just asking." }, { "start": 2823.44, "end": 2831.04, "text": " Just on the topic of the world I don't want to live in, I am unhappy that today we heard" }, { "start": 2831.04, "end": 2837.52, "text": " that Samsung has actually shipped 800,000 Galaxy Gears and Chris enlightened me about" }, { "start": 2837.52, "end": 2839.84, "text": " the Moto X only selling half a million." }, { "start": 2839.84, "end": 2844.52, "text": " I know one is sales, the other is shipments but still the fact that even retailers are" }, { "start": 2844.52, "end": 2848.84, "text": " willing to commit to 800,000 of those atrocious watches." }, { "start": 2848.84, "end": 2850.7599999999998, "text": " When do you think they made those orders?" }, { "start": 2850.7599999999998, "end": 2856.2799999999997, "text": " How many Best Buy warehouses does it take to hold 800,000 Galaxy Gears until Samsung" }, { "start": 2856.2799999999997, "end": 2857.2799999999997, "text": " takes them back?" }, { "start": 2857.2799999999997, "end": 2860, "text": " That's a good question." }, { "start": 2860, "end": 2867.2, "text": " So Kwame our weekend editor here at the Verge, he did actually point out something worth" }, { "start": 2867.2, "end": 2872.36, "text": " noting which is we were all joking and making fun of the original Galaxy Note." }, { "start": 2872.36, "end": 2878.32, "text": " Now I'm not saying that – no stop, just let me finish." }, { "start": 2878.32, "end": 2880.24, "text": " We were, everybody was." }, { "start": 2880.24, "end": 2881.24, "text": " Yes we were." }, { "start": 2881.24, "end": 2884.16, "text": " But I'm not saying this is the same thing." }, { "start": 2884.16, "end": 2891.3999999999996, "text": " But I am saying there is an interesting parallel there that maybe, just maybe we could have" }, { "start": 2891.3999999999996, "end": 2895.3599999999997, "text": " a better interface when the shipments turn into sales." }, { "start": 2895.3599999999997, "end": 2900.92, "text": " The key difference between the Gear and the Note is that the Note isn't actually a good" }, { "start": 2900.92, "end": 2901.92, "text": " device." }, { "start": 2901.92, "end": 2902.92, "text": " It's a good product." }, { "start": 2902.92, "end": 2904.8399999999997, "text": " And the Gear is like fundamentally not." }, { "start": 2904.8399999999997, "end": 2911.2, "text": " It might be at some day if Samsung actually updates it and makes it better but the one" }, { "start": 2911.2, "end": 2913.44, "text": " that you buy today is not a good product." }, { "start": 2913.44, "end": 2914.44, "text": " Absolutely." }, { "start": 2914.44, "end": 2916.6, "text": " So that's the key difference." }, { "start": 2916.6, "end": 2921.7200000000003, "text": " Yeah, I do not expect any egg on my face with regards to the Galaxy Gear." }, { "start": 2921.7200000000003, "end": 2925.96, "text": " Well you don't need eggs so how would it even happen?" }, { "start": 2925.96, "end": 2928.28, "text": " We're not even going to go there." }, { "start": 2928.28, "end": 2929.28, "text": " The egg – okay." }, { "start": 2929.28, "end": 2931.16, "text": " Wait do you eat eggs?" }, { "start": 2931.16, "end": 2933.44, "text": " The egg is like the perfect food." }, { "start": 2933.44, "end": 2934.92, "text": " And that's not me saying it." }, { "start": 2934.92, "end": 2941.48, "text": " There's a Duke professor who is like the PR guy for eggs because they have like the" }, { "start": 2941.48, "end": 2945.44, "text": " perfect protein breakdown and they give you all your necessary fats and all of those good" }, { "start": 2945.44, "end": 2946.44, "text": " things." }, { "start": 2946.44, "end": 2947.44, "text": " Anyway, I do eat eggs." }, { "start": 2947.44, "end": 2948.44, "text": " I make amazing omelets." }, { "start": 2948.44, "end": 2950.72, "text": " You should come to my house." }, { "start": 2950.72, "end": 2951.72, "text": " Okay so the phone." }, { "start": 2951.72, "end": 2952.72, "text": " All right." }, { "start": 2952.72, "end": 2955.72, "text": " Wait, wait Vlad do you eat cheese?" }, { "start": 2955.72, "end": 2958.2400000000002, "text": " You're making an omelet without cheese." }, { "start": 2958.2400000000002, "end": 2959.2400000000002, "text": " That's a travesty." }, { "start": 2959.2400000000002, "end": 2961, "text": " Okay, carry on." }, { "start": 2961, "end": 2962.6, "text": " I do make omelets without cheese." }, { "start": 2962.6, "end": 2964.64, "text": " But yes, the Porsche design –" }, { "start": 2964.64, "end": 2967.04, "text": " It's just scrambled eggs!" }, { "start": 2967.04, "end": 2968.04, "text": " Sorry." }, { "start": 2968.04, "end": 2970.6, "text": " Dude, there are French people who you just offended." }, { "start": 2970.6, "end": 2972.4, "text": " I mean there's a whole country you just offended." }, { "start": 2972.4, "end": 2974, "text": " There's a lot of –" }, { "start": 2974, "end": 2979.72, "text": " By the way, France just issued a travel advisory against its citizens traveling to Chicago" }, { "start": 2979.72, "end": 2982.36, "text": " so I don't care about offending the French." }, { "start": 2982.36, "end": 2986.36, "text": " Why doesn't France want people going to Chicago?" }, { "start": 2986.36, "end": 2987.36, "text": " Because of the crime." }, { "start": 2987.36, "end": 2990.68, "text": " No, I think it's because they're going to be swindled into eating something that they" }, { "start": 2990.68, "end": 2993.12, "text": " think is going to be pizza and it's not pizza." }, { "start": 2993.12, "end": 2994.6, "text": " Wait, wait, wait." }, { "start": 2994.6, "end": 2997.04, "text": " Chris, don't react to the trope." }, { "start": 2997.04, "end": 2998.52, "text": " Is that for real?" }, { "start": 2998.52, "end": 3002.08, "text": " Yeah, yeah Chicago Tribune published it today." }, { "start": 3002.08, "end": 3003.08, "text": " Wow." }, { "start": 3003.08, "end": 3004.08, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 3004.08, "end": 3007.88, "text": " I mean they thought about – I was going to try and make a surrender joke but I couldn't" }, { "start": 3007.88, "end": 3011.7599999999998, "text": " come up with anything so let it go." }, { "start": 3011.7599999999998, "end": 3019.04, "text": " Okay so, BlackBerry, the reason I am showing this box is because like the very purpose" }, { "start": 3019.04, "end": 3024.92, "text": " of this thing's existence is in the accessories and in your imagination." }, { "start": 3024.92, "end": 3029.36, "text": " So you have to imagine the fine texture of this box." }, { "start": 3029.36, "end": 3036.44, "text": " So then we open it up and there's more blackness booting up the anticipation and then there's" }, { "start": 3036.44, "end": 3037.44, "text": " these two things." }, { "start": 3037.44, "end": 3040.32, "text": " This is a low point for the original show right now." }, { "start": 3040.32, "end": 3044.7200000000003, "text": " It's really fitting that there's two things here in the foreground because one of them" }, { "start": 3044.7200000000003, "end": 3049.28, "text": " is the phone itself which has steel and –" }, { "start": 3049.28, "end": 3051.96, "text": " It looks kind of nice to be honest with you." }, { "start": 3051.96, "end": 3055.92, "text": " Well it's real leather which might piss a lot of people off, you know animal rights" }, { "start": 3055.92, "end": 3057.52, "text": " and whatever." }, { "start": 3057.52, "end": 3061.56, "text": " Also BlackBerry tell me it's real Italian leather made of Italian cows." }, { "start": 3061.56, "end": 3064.44, "text": " I don't know if that matters to you." }, { "start": 3064.44, "end": 3065.44, "text": " But anyway –" }, { "start": 3065.44, "end": 3066.44, "text": " It has a chin on the bottom right?" }, { "start": 3066.44, "end": 3068.28, "text": " No it doesn't, it's flat." }, { "start": 3068.28, "end": 3072.12, "text": " No but it's got like a little – instead of being straight across it like has a little" }, { "start": 3072.12, "end": 3075.76, "text": " chin, chinny chin." }, { "start": 3075.76, "end": 3080.92, "text": " Like a Z10 doesn't go down as far on the bezel underneath the screen is what I'm" }, { "start": 3080.92, "end": 3081.92, "text": " saying." }, { "start": 3081.92, "end": 3085.44, "text": " I was thinking chin like with the HC –" }, { "start": 3085.44, "end": 3090.6, "text": " No not like Bruce Campbell chin." }, { "start": 3090.6, "end": 3093.88, "text": " Not one that protrudes forward but just one that goes down." }, { "start": 3093.88, "end": 3098.52, "text": " Yeah it's got a little bit more, that's the stainless steel part of it." }, { "start": 3098.52, "end": 3102.2400000000002, "text": " But seriously even the BlackBerry guys who were showing this thing to me, they were struggling" }, { "start": 3102.2400000000002, "end": 3104.36, "text": " to come up with differences from the Z10." }, { "start": 3104.36, "end": 3108.88, "text": " So it's the same internals, same processor, same screen, all that jazz." }, { "start": 3108.88, "end": 3111.28, "text": " Yeah it just has 64 gigs of storage." }, { "start": 3111.28, "end": 3116.6000000000004, "text": " Why didn't they go with the – I mean the cool thing about putting it in the 981 was" }, { "start": 3116.6000000000004, "end": 3121.4, "text": " their crazy keyboard and going metallic and it didn't fit with the other BlackBerrys." }, { "start": 3121.4, "end": 3126.2000000000003, "text": " They should have totally just done the Q10 instead of the Z10." }, { "start": 3126.2000000000003, "end": 3129.7200000000003, "text": " I mean is it really going to affect sales the same way or the other?" }, { "start": 3129.7200000000003, "end": 3138.92, "text": " Honestly when you look at this thing, the P9999A2, it's just a Z10 with the top and" }, { "start": 3138.92, "end": 3144.04, "text": " the bottom of the P999981." }, { "start": 3144.04, "end": 3149.16, "text": " I could have done this in a minute's worth of work and I don't do design." }, { "start": 3149.16, "end": 3157.2400000000002, "text": " Now Vlad, with the original Pananana, the BlackBerry customized the software so it had" }, { "start": 3157.2400000000002, "end": 3159.2000000000003, "text": " like special Porsche icons and things like that." }, { "start": 3159.2000000000003, "end": 3161.44, "text": " Is it any different with this one or is it the same software?" }, { "start": 3161.44, "end": 3164.8, "text": " You get a unique BBM pin." }, { "start": 3164.8, "end": 3169.1200000000003, "text": " Wait, wait, wait, that's important." }, { "start": 3169.1200000000003, "end": 3172.76, "text": " Let's get through the trivia first." }, { "start": 3172.76, "end": 3174.7200000000003, "text": " We spent like 10 minutes on this." }, { "start": 3174.7200000000003, "end": 3179.44, "text": " Wait, there's a Porsche theme ringtone on this thing." }, { "start": 3179.44, "end": 3186.2000000000003, "text": " It's a Porsche theme ringtone but it isn't actually an engine noise." }, { "start": 3186.2000000000003, "end": 3192.84, "text": " And boot up and shutdown animations have that PD Porsche design logo happening and from" }, { "start": 3192.84, "end": 3197.7200000000003, "text": " what I understand the Porsche design guys are just like this other group which is licensed" }, { "start": 3197.7200000000003, "end": 3199.1600000000003, "text": " to use the name basically." }, { "start": 3199.1600000000003, "end": 3202.1600000000003, "text": " They have nothing to do with the actual Porsche designs." }, { "start": 3202.1600000000003, "end": 3205.32, "text": " But anyway, not that that matters to the people who are interested in this." }, { "start": 3205.32, "end": 3206.42, "text": " Here's what matters." }, { "start": 3206.42, "end": 3209.6800000000003, "text": " This is the other hugely important part." }, { "start": 3209.6800000000003, "end": 3215.08, "text": " It's a credit card size thing which makes you a literal card carrying member of an exclusive" }, { "start": 3215.08, "end": 3218.88, "text": " club and you have a unique pin." }, { "start": 3218.88, "end": 3225.88, "text": " Now what I'm going to say is that exclusive club is going to matter to some people and" }, { "start": 3225.88, "end": 3233, "text": " not going to matter to the rest of the population." }, { "start": 3233, "end": 3236.12, "text": " It really depends on how you define that club." }, { "start": 3236.12, "end": 3237.12, "text": " That's it." }, { "start": 3237.12, "end": 3239.28, "text": " Whether you want that phone or not." }, { "start": 3239.28, "end": 3241.32, "text": " Price tag also is worth mentioning." }, { "start": 3241.32, "end": 3244.12, "text": " It's $2,400." }, { "start": 3244.12, "end": 3245.12, "text": " Totally worth it." }, { "start": 3245.12, "end": 3246.12, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3246.12, "end": 3250.96, "text": " Well if you want to justify it in hardware terms, they do have a charger adapter for" }, { "start": 3250.96, "end": 3254.3199999999997, "text": " every single region in the world." }, { "start": 3254.3199999999997, "end": 3256.68, "text": " And one of the tiniest freaking batteries ever." }, { "start": 3256.68, "end": 3262.16, "text": " I mean I look at this battery and I'm just embarrassed on their behalf." }, { "start": 3262.16, "end": 3264.16, "text": " Seriously." }, { "start": 3264.16, "end": 3270.2799999999997, "text": " Somebody did a calculation and they said you could get something like 1,016GB Moto G's" }, { "start": 3270.2799999999997, "end": 3272.7599999999998, "text": " for the price of one of these." }, { "start": 3272.76, "end": 3277.8, "text": " I mean the reason this phone exists is because it's profitable." }, { "start": 3277.8, "end": 3283.1600000000003, "text": " They sell it in two regions where everyone is a billionaire and they'll sell them." }, { "start": 3283.1600000000003, "end": 3288.6000000000004, "text": " And I mean the phone costs marginally more than a regular Z10 to make." }, { "start": 3288.6000000000004, "end": 3289.6000000000004, "text": " And they're selling it for 10,000." }, { "start": 3289.6000000000004, "end": 3290.8, "text": " The stainless steel, that's the other thing." }, { "start": 3290.8, "end": 3293.6800000000003, "text": " The only premium material here is the leather." }, { "start": 3293.6800000000003, "end": 3294.6800000000003, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 3294.6800000000003, "end": 3296.92, "text": " Right, that's what I'm saying." }, { "start": 3296.92, "end": 3299.76, "text": " It probably cost them 10% more to make." }, { "start": 3299.76, "end": 3300.76, "text": " Oh fantastic." }, { "start": 3300.76, "end": 3303.48, "text": " And the Z10 version with only 500 being made." }, { "start": 3303.48, "end": 3305.7200000000003, "text": " And I can still see them." }, { "start": 3305.7200000000003, "end": 3309.44, "text": " And 300 of those are review units." }, { "start": 3309.44, "end": 3313.96, "text": " The funny thing to me is that the people who buy, if I actually saw someone who owned this," }, { "start": 3313.96, "end": 3317.2400000000002, "text": " I'd be like dude this just means you couldn't afford a Virtu." }, { "start": 3317.2400000000002, "end": 3323.5200000000004, "text": " It's the poor man's Virtu is all of it." }, { "start": 3323.5200000000004, "end": 3324.5200000000004, "text": " Wow." }, { "start": 3324.5200000000004, "end": 3327.0400000000004, "text": " Is it like the Acura phones?" }, { "start": 3327.0400000000004, "end": 3328.0400000000004, "text": " Is that?" }, { "start": 3328.0400000000004, "end": 3329.76, "text": " It's a decent way of putting it." }, { "start": 3329.76, "end": 3333.0400000000004, "text": " I mean you just offended everybody who's listening to us who owns an Acura, but sure." }, { "start": 3333.0400000000004, "end": 3334.0400000000004, "text": " I would buy it." }, { "start": 3334.0400000000004, "end": 3336.4, "text": " I would be grateful if I could buy an Acura." }, { "start": 3336.4, "end": 3338.6400000000003, "text": " I would be super happy." }, { "start": 3338.6400000000003, "end": 3340.44, "text": " Not in New York you wouldn't be." }, { "start": 3340.44, "end": 3341.96, "text": " Well no." }, { "start": 3341.96, "end": 3344.5200000000004, "text": " Alright, we should probably wrap up pretty soon." }, { "start": 3344.5200000000004, "end": 3353.8, "text": " I do want to take a brief moment to say that new FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler is not, at least" }, { "start": 3353.8, "end": 3361.32, "text": " in his first couple of weeks, week, however long it's been, the super pro carrier tragedy" }, { "start": 3361.32, "end": 3362.32, "text": " that we were all expecting." }, { "start": 3362.32, "end": 3367.04, "text": " That will come later, but so far Chris, he seems to be doing okay." }, { "start": 3367.04, "end": 3372.52, "text": " He is not the worst person on the planet so far, which is encouraging." }, { "start": 3372.52, "end": 3378, "text": " I think that he, honestly, I mean this might be a little overly optimistic, but it almost" }, { "start": 3378, "end": 3384.04, "text": " seems like he was motivated by the amount of momentum that Clyburn generated and he's" }, { "start": 3384.04, "end": 3386.56, "text": " trying to keep that up." }, { "start": 3386.56, "end": 3397, "text": " He actually just circulated moments ago a memo on how he wants to take action on moving" }, { "start": 3397, "end": 3405.52, "text": " the country toward an all IP infrastructure, which is code for ripping out the landlines." }, { "start": 3405.52, "end": 3412.04, "text": " There are many, many forces at play in that conversation and it's still open for debate" }, { "start": 3412.04, "end": 3416.7599999999998, "text": " whether that's actually a net good thing for consumers or a net bad thing." }, { "start": 3416.7599999999998, "end": 3419.52, "text": " So the jury is still out, but that literally just happened." }, { "start": 3419.52, "end": 3423.48, "text": " So he's moving very quickly and he's using, in every memo I've seen of his, he's using" }, { "start": 3423.48, "end": 3424.48, "text": " very strong language." }, { "start": 3424.48, "end": 3426.56, "text": " He's saying, you know, we got to do this right now." }, { "start": 3426.56, "end": 3427.56, "text": " We got to act." }, { "start": 3427.56, "end": 3432.04, "text": " He actually put a time window on that memo he sent to Steve Large and President of CTIA." }, { "start": 3432.04, "end": 3436.2799999999997, "text": " He's like, I want this resolved by December with the phone unlocking stuff." }, { "start": 3436.2799999999997, "end": 3438.36, "text": " So the dude is looking to move." }, { "start": 3438.36, "end": 3443, "text": " We'll just see if he can keep it up." }, { "start": 3443, "end": 3444.7599999999998, "text": " And what's this drama today, Chris?" }, { "start": 3444.7599999999998, "end": 3449.4, "text": " I know that you don't have any strong feelings about this cell phone unlocking thing that's" }, { "start": 3449.4, "end": 3450.4, "text": " happening." }, { "start": 3450.4, "end": 3451.4, "text": " Oh, yes." }, { "start": 3451.4, "end": 3452.96, "text": " Oh my goodness." }, { "start": 3452.96, "end": 3458.84, "text": " So there's this story, I believe it originally appeared in the New York Times, about how" }, { "start": 3458.84, "end": 3468, "text": " carriers are pushing back on a proposed requirement to load phones with software that would allow" }, { "start": 3468, "end": 3472.76, "text": " users to remotely lock them if they're stolen." }, { "start": 3472.76, "end": 3478.52, "text": " Carriers are allegedly pushing back because they're worried that's going to cut into" }, { "start": 3478.52, "end": 3482.92, "text": " insurance profits because the insurance plans, which are very popular, are also very profitable," }, { "start": 3482.92, "end": 3488.8, "text": " which is why every time you go to say a Best Buy and you buy a $3 CDR, they're like," }, { "start": 3488.8, "end": 3496, "text": " do you want to insure that for two years for $25?" }, { "start": 3496, "end": 3505.0800000000004, "text": " And so, yes, I agree in principle that remote lock and wipe is great." }, { "start": 3505.0800000000004, "end": 3510.28, "text": " I think that this is kind of bizarre and misguided and a little backwards for a few reasons." }, { "start": 3510.28, "end": 3516.6200000000003, "text": " One, I can't think of any other physical object owned by American citizens where the" }, { "start": 3516.62, "end": 3524.24, "text": " government requires that they be modified in some way to disincentivize people to steal" }, { "start": 3524.24, "end": 3525.24, "text": " them." }, { "start": 3525.24, "end": 3534.04, "text": " We don't mandate alarms or low jacks on cars, which are obviously very heavily stolen things." }, { "start": 3534.04, "end": 3545.2799999999997, "text": " And secondly, carriers just took action late last year on a national IMEI blacklist." }, { "start": 3545.28, "end": 3551.6400000000003, "text": " So there is a way to prevent these phones from being used after they're stolen, but" }, { "start": 3551.6400000000003, "end": 3555.44, "text": " ultimately the question becomes, I think it's a bridge to your point." }, { "start": 3555.44, "end": 3559.5600000000004, "text": " Well, hang on, a national IMEI blacklist doesn't solve the problem because a lot of these phones" }, { "start": 3559.5600000000004, "end": 3561.36, "text": " are getting shipped overseas." }, { "start": 3561.36, "end": 3564.52, "text": " So you actually need to disable the unit itself." }, { "start": 3564.52, "end": 3569.6200000000003, "text": " Right, but that gets to my last point, which is that regardless of how you approach this," }, { "start": 3569.62, "end": 3575.52, "text": " you're still not solving the problem of a shady guy coming up to you and taking your" }, { "start": 3575.52, "end": 3576.52, "text": " phone." }, { "start": 3576.52, "end": 3580.56, "text": " They're not thinking about whether, oh well, I wonder if maybe this phone is going to be" }, { "start": 3580.56, "end": 3581.56, "text": " remote lockable." }, { "start": 3581.56, "end": 3584.44, "text": " They're just like ganked and then they walk away." }, { "start": 3584.44, "end": 3590.88, "text": " Yeah, but I mean the idea is that if it becomes known throughout the world that phones will" }, { "start": 3590.88, "end": 3595.7599999999998, "text": " be disabled if they're stolen, there will be less incentive to steal them." }, { "start": 3595.76, "end": 3600.1200000000003, "text": " Well, that has certainly worked well with Lojax." }, { "start": 3600.1200000000003, "end": 3607.48, "text": " I don't know, I just think that this is an example of people having their hearts and" }, { "start": 3607.48, "end": 3611.96, "text": " minds in the right place, but it is not the right battle to be picking." }, { "start": 3611.96, "end": 3615.2400000000002, "text": " And believe me, there are many, many battles to be picked with carriers." }, { "start": 3615.2400000000002, "end": 3620.4, "text": " I don't think this is the right one." }, { "start": 3620.4, "end": 3624.5200000000004, "text": " That's all I have to say." }, { "start": 3624.52, "end": 3628.16, "text": " On that note, I think it's time to wrap up the Verge Mobile show." }, { "start": 3628.16, "end": 3631.68, "text": " If you disagree, then I'm sorry." }, { "start": 3631.68, "end": 3633.92, "text": " If you want to follow us on Twitter, you can." }, { "start": 3633.92, "end": 3636.92, "text": " I am at backlaundan as DCC for with an EI." }, { "start": 3636.92, "end": 3639.2, "text": " Chris is ZPower, don't call him Zpower." }, { "start": 3639.2, "end": 3642.2, "text": " Vlad is Vlad Savov, don't call him Vladwick." }, { "start": 3642.2, "end": 3646.84, "text": " We are all at Verge and next week, we'll see you guys." }, { "start": 3646.84, "end": 3647.84, "text": " Thanks for watching." }, { "start": 3647.84, "end": 3648.84, "text": " Bye." }, { "start": 3648.84, "end": 3657.6000000000004, "text": " Transcribed by https://otter.ai" } ]

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I didn't know what a manager looked like." }, { "start": 287.12, "end": 292.12, "text": " I didn't know how much stress was supposed to be removed from me when hiring certain kinds of roles." }, { "start": 292.12, "end": 294.12, "text": " It was just like, I'm just used to stress at level 10." }, { "start": 294.12, "end": 297.12, "text": " So I guess if it goes down to level 9, that's pretty good." }, { "start": 297.12, "end": 299.12, "text": " And yeah, it was hard." }, { "start": 299.12, "end": 302.12, "text": " What is your stress level number at right now?" }, { "start": 302.12, "end": 303.12, "text": " Right now?" }, { "start": 303.12, "end": 304.12, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 304.12, "end": 310.12, "text": " Maybe like a 6.5. And then if we shard the database properly, like 5." }, { "start": 311.12, "end": 313.12, "text": " Main floor, big bookshelf." }, { "start": 313.12, "end": 315.12, "text": " I love ladders on bookshelves." }, { "start": 315.12, "end": 316.12, "text": " Cool, right?" }, { "start": 316.12, "end": 318.12, "text": " That's not a load bearing ladder, is it? Should I try to?" }, { "start": 318.12, "end": 319.12, "text": " You could try it." }, { "start": 319.12, "end": 324.12, "text": " This is one of those offices. 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Is there some interior designer, some professional cool person who picks all this stuff out or what?" }, { "start": 368.12, "end": 376.12, "text": " No, so actually all the stuff on the shelves is from us and employees and our designers and things like that are old things I have." }, { "start": 378.12, "end": 382.12, "text": " Squarespace started out as one college student's blogging solution." }, { "start": 382.12, "end": 389.12, "text": " And over time it came to be a platform for online portfolios and eventually an engine for e-commerce." }, { "start": 389.12, "end": 395.12, "text": " We're here in Tribeca to meet with a design agency that is doing all of the above." }, { "start": 395.12, "end": 399.12, "text": " Our backgrounds are both really strange and weird." }, { "start": 399.12, "end": 404.12, "text": " I used to be a ballet dancer in a former life. 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"end": 1181.12, "text": " One person alone cannot build an empire." }, { "start": 1181.12, "end": 1185.12, "text": " And it took Anthony three years to realize that he needed help." }, { "start": 1185.12, "end": 1190.12, "text": " And when he finally got it, even though things kept going well, they were extremely stressful." }, { "start": 1190.12, "end": 1195.12, "text": " So it seems only fitting that Squarespace has grown to be a really impressive company," }, { "start": 1195.12, "end": 1202.12, "text": " now building a platform that makes it easy, trivial really, for countless entrepreneurs" }, { "start": 1202.12, "end": 1207.12, "text": " to make beautiful websites so they can focus on what really matters." }, { "start": 1207.12, "end": 1211.12, "text": " Am I still in the frame?" }, { "start": 1237.12, "end": 1253.12, "text": " Thanks, man." }, { "start": 1267.12, "end": 1272.12, "text": " Thanks, man." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 2.5, "text": " It's Monday, November 18th, 2013." }, { "start": 2.5, "end": 6.8, "text": " I'm Addy Robertson, and when I was in middle school, people used to tease me and call me" }, { "start": 6.8, "end": 7.8, "text": " Four Eyes." }, { "start": 7.8, "end": 10.16, "text": " Good thing I had those extra ones surgically removed." }, { "start": 10.16, "end": 11.84, "text": " This is 90 seconds on the verge." }, { "start": 11.84, "end": 15.34, "text": " The next-gen console war has begun, and Sony is off to a very good start." }, { "start": 15.34, "end": 19.88, "text": " The PS4, which was released on Friday, sold over a million units in just 24 hours, despite" }, { "start": 19.88, "end": 21.84, "text": " launching only in the US and Canada." }, { "start": 21.84, "end": 25.6, "text": " This makes it Sony's fastest-selling console and one of the fastest-selling game consoles" }, { "start": 25.6, "end": 26.6, "text": " ever." }, { "start": 26.6, "end": 28.64, "text": " Of course, not everything went according to plan." }, { "start": 28.64, "end": 32.78, "text": " Some PS4 owners complained of a quote, blue light of death, in which the console's light" }, { "start": 32.78, "end": 37.120000000000005, "text": " bar flashes blue, but it never outputs a video signal or boots up." }, { "start": 37.120000000000005, "end": 40.66, "text": " Apple is always looking to make big moves, but this time, it's quite literal." }, { "start": 40.66, "end": 44.760000000000005, "text": " The company is reportedly in talks to acquire PrimeSense, the Israeli company whose technology," }, { "start": 44.760000000000005, "end": 49.08, "text": " chips, and designs are inside the first Kinect sensor for the Xbox 360." }, { "start": 49.08, "end": 53.480000000000004, "text": " Neither company has commented on the rumored $345 million acquisition." }, { "start": 53.480000000000004, "end": 56.58, "text": " With reports of an Apple television on the horizon, it's possible that PrimeSense may" }, { "start": 56.58, "end": 60.839999999999996, "text": " play some part in an Apple living room push or in future mobile devices." }, { "start": 60.839999999999996, "end": 64.96, "text": " And finally, on-again, off-again TV show The Killing is back on again." }, { "start": 64.96, "end": 68.7, "text": " Netflix will exclusively air the final season of the acclaimed show, which will consist" }, { "start": 68.7, "end": 70.08, "text": " of six episodes." }, { "start": 70.08, "end": 74.24, "text": " The Killing was canceled twice by AMC, but it proved to be a streaming hit on Netflix." }, { "start": 74.24, "end": 78.08, "text": " Brought back by popular demand, the final season will air without any involvement from" }, { "start": 78.08, "end": 79.08, "text": " AMC." }, { "start": 79.08, "end": 82.64, "text": " So what we're saying is, cling to those hopes that Firefly is coming back." }, { "start": 82.64, "end": 84.28, "text": " And that's it for today's top stories." }, { "start": 84.28, "end": 87.48, "text": " Coming up tomorrow, we answer the classic question of which came first, the chicken" }, { "start": 87.48, "end": 114.56, "text": " salad or the egg salad?" } ]

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Yeah, and they you publish your review" }, { "start": 89.94, "end": 91.36, "text": " So in my mind, it's already done" }, { "start": 91.36, "end": 97.28, "text": " PlayStation 4 is done over with right because polygons review was one of those beautiful things that were published definitive authoritative move" }, { "start": 97.28, "end": 101.46000000000001, "text": " I believe John Hermann today on tour said I've read a lot of ps4 reviews my end result" }, { "start": 101.72, "end": 105.64, "text": " This review is way more technologically advanced than the ps4 itself. Oh, that's it. That's a burn" }, { "start": 105.64, "end": 112.26, "text": " I'm shaders to and this is how many GPUs up in this review. We have to use 17 GPUs. Yeah" }, { "start": 113.44, "end": 117.28, "text": " Mechanics. Yeah, I don't know anything about video games by the way. These are just words that picked up over time" }, { "start": 117.72, "end": 120.72, "text": " You have played with the PlayStation 4 this I have played with the ps4" }, { "start": 120.88, "end": 125.16, "text": " Mm-hmm, and actually, you know, I just did a big feature on the Xbox and so I got some quality time" }, { "start": 125.16, "end": 130.96, "text": " And we should definitely talk about that playing with the Xbox as well, which I believe makes me special very special. Hmm" }, { "start": 132, "end": 133.92000000000002, "text": " Yeah, I thought so" }, { "start": 133.92, "end": 137.11999999999998, "text": " So yeah, let's talk about it. So that's the big news of the week. Mm-hmm" }, { "start": 137.44, "end": 142.27999999999997, "text": " I if you know if this is your first verge cast just get ready because we're just getting right into it" }, { "start": 142.27999999999997, "end": 146.76, "text": " I don't know what you'd be getting ready for because presumably you've downloaded this file you're listening to it or you're" }, { "start": 147.2, "end": 150.79999999999998, "text": " Like you're watching it right now streaming. Yeah, what if you're watching it right now? I'm so sorry" }, { "start": 150.79999999999998, "end": 157.23999999999998, "text": " They're pressing stop leaving sure they're learning how to fast forward through time itself. Yeah, so let's let's talk about ps4" }, { "start": 158.16, "end": 163, "text": " Came out. It's the next PlayStation. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's it's interesting to me" }, { "start": 163, "end": 171.24, "text": " No, that's really weird right that's it's it's actually interesting that that's how Sony has chosen to like design develop an engineer of this product" }, { "start": 171.24, "end": 171.96, "text": " Yes" }, { "start": 171.96, "end": 177.08, "text": " On this show versus the polygon cast which we don't actually do but yeah" }, { "start": 177.08, "end": 181.12, "text": " Let's say theoretically did is that we would be talking about games every single week and then every eight years" }, { "start": 181.44, "end": 183.7, "text": " We would talk about this right you guys" }, { "start": 183.7, "end": 192.57999999999998, "text": " This is you can see this. That's a piece of plastic. This is a phone. I can't believe it" }, { "start": 193.29999999999998, "end": 196.17999999999998, "text": " Screens and now it's just the cover and that actually works as a phone" }, { "start": 196.17999999999998, "end": 201.5, "text": " No, like this isn't even the Moto X like cuz these things come out every three months. Oh, we did it again" }, { "start": 201.5, "end": 204.79999999999998, "text": " There's a new one and underneath that there's even more iPads like" }, { "start": 205.45999999999998, "end": 209.1, "text": " In gaming stop with the iPad. They can't stop. They're like rabbits" }, { "start": 209.94, "end": 211.62, "text": " in gaming" }, { "start": 211.62, "end": 215.9, "text": " It's like hey, it's been I don't know. It's been about seven years Carter's not president anymore" }, { "start": 215.9, "end": 218.18, "text": " Let's just go ahead and make a new PlayStation. Yeah. Yes" }, { "start": 218.18, "end": 224.26, "text": " Um, and it means that you have to wait it means that these things have to have really long-term ambitions" }, { "start": 226.18, "end": 229.64000000000001, "text": " And that's like what's wait no, I actually this is a really interesting yeah" }, { "start": 230.38, "end": 233.82, "text": " I just it's gonna sound dumb but I've been hearing it endlessly" }, { "start": 233.94, "end": 239.06, "text": " It's been repeated more this console generation any other as far as I can tell you know why this thing's like a decade" }, { "start": 239.06, "end": 244.56, "text": " These things didn't exist the last time. Yeah, right. So they're scared. They're like, what's the next thing? That's gonna disrupt us" }, { "start": 244.56, "end": 248.3, "text": " I think because the way that gaming has worked historically is a stable" }, { "start": 248.78, "end": 250.9, "text": " software platform and a" }, { "start": 250.9, "end": 254.48, "text": " Consumer investment that will last a long time in order to get the largest possible audience" }, { "start": 254.48, "end": 257.14, "text": " These things are cheap because your phone carrier subsidizes them" }, { "start": 257.82, "end": 259.82, "text": " iPads" }, { "start": 259.9, "end": 265.74, "text": " Challenge some of that right right now. That's 500 bucks and you're buying a new one every two years what iPads do and what I'm very curious" }, { "start": 265.74, "end": 270.42, "text": " I don't have an answer we can pontificate here. That's our jobs. Yeah, actually in my contract. Um" }, { "start": 271.22, "end": 274.18, "text": " About why this is and I hope that this happens going forward" }, { "start": 274.78000000000003, "end": 278.1, "text": " video games have been on a cycle a 30 year cycle of" }, { "start": 279.26, "end": 283.88, "text": " Changing and rewriting their architecture every generation, right?" }, { "start": 283.88, "end": 287.04, "text": " But you see a lot each bit before years to four or five years used to be a lot shorter" }, { "start": 287.04, "end": 292.42, "text": " This was a long generation. So let's just rewrite our architecture again. All your old games won't work. Yeah, there's some new games. I" }, { "start": 292.42, "end": 298.06, "text": " Can still play the first piece of software I bought for my iPhone on my new iPhone. Yeah" }, { "start": 299.14000000000004, "end": 302.66, "text": " That is what was it crazy. It was a game called" }, { "start": 303.58000000000004, "end": 308.90000000000003, "text": " I've had one there, but it was Tres it was a Tetris clone. They pulled it off the store" }, { "start": 308.90000000000003, "end": 312.3, "text": " I have it on my iTunes library and I can install it" }, { "start": 312.3, "end": 316.34000000000003, "text": " I have a bunch of store games there because I can't get a store anymore. Nice Tres" }, { "start": 316.34000000000003, "end": 321.3, "text": " No, I have a bunch of these that made it that cuz that first few months the store they weren't policing very well, man" }, { "start": 321.3, "end": 326.1, "text": " Yeah, I got a Tetris clone EA and that releasing a Tetris release its Tetris version. I like trust better" }, { "start": 326.1, "end": 329.94, "text": " It's a really simple. Yeah, we have like in-game like purchases and all that stuff. It's really annoying" }, { "start": 329.94, "end": 334.7, "text": " Yeah, but here's the thing like so this is getting the tech nerd part the ps4 reset new architecture" }, { "start": 334.7, "end": 338.74, "text": " It's more like a PC now like yeah, theoretically, it's it's new old architecture" }, { "start": 338.74, "end": 339.14, "text": " Exactly" }, { "start": 339.14, "end": 339.26, "text": " Yeah" }, { "start": 339.26, "end": 344.92, "text": " Theoretically if they upgrade the hardware backwards compatibility will not be an issue going forward assuming they just they don't do some crazy game like" }, { "start": 344.92, "end": 350.42, "text": " A cell processor or some other proprietary shit. I think I think Sony learned the cell processor lesson. That's over" }, { "start": 350.42, "end": 353.62, "text": " I hope so the way I've been thinking about this new console also, so" }, { "start": 356.42, "end": 357.74, "text": " Let's finish the" }, { "start": 357.74, "end": 360.06, "text": " the the exercise of why" }, { "start": 360.3, "end": 365.26, "text": " These things last so long and with the logic of that is before we get into the actual logic of designing the ps4" }, { "start": 365.74, "end": 367.06, "text": " so" }, { "start": 367.06, "end": 371.46000000000004, "text": " They had to last a long time. They were individual unique architectures. They kept changing them over and over again" }, { "start": 372.94, "end": 374.5, "text": " They just made a PC now" }, { "start": 374.5, "end": 380.98, "text": " So for the first time ever and certainly the Xbox one is closer to this than any other one the in that it has windows" }, { "start": 380.98, "end": 382.1, "text": " On it. Yeah" }, { "start": 382.1, "end": 384.3, "text": " The ps4 is still proprietary, but" }, { "start": 384.9, "end": 390.38, "text": " It's an x86 powered system. It runs an AMD GPU and AMD CPU. It runs GDDR" }, { "start": 390.9, "end": 398.94, "text": " Lot, there's a guy's just like yes. Yes. Finally someone loves us guys. You can just make sure to cut me that check" }, { "start": 399.94, "end": 401.46, "text": " so" }, { "start": 401.46, "end": 403.46, "text": " AMD managed to get like a" }, { "start": 403.46, "end": 405.46, "text": " Hat trick" }, { "start": 408.46, "end": 410.46, "text": " Are in the Wii U. Yeah, oh" }, { "start": 410.97999999999996, "end": 414.29999999999995, "text": " Because I don't think that we I refuse to believe you exist" }, { "start": 415.29999999999995, "end": 419.02, "text": " Processor or they build the way we call it GPU. Maybe not the processor anyway, so um" }, { "start": 420.09999999999997, "end": 422.26, "text": " We have x86 power boxes in the home now" }, { "start": 422.94, "end": 426.82, "text": " I think as a result the ps4 is smaller than the ps3 slim" }, { "start": 427.14, "end": 429.62, "text": " Yeah, like it's a powerful piece of hardware" }, { "start": 429.62, "end": 436.82, "text": " But it's well understood and like right manufacturing it and shrinking it and cooling it as much better understood than well, so I will" }, { "start": 438.06, "end": 440.06, "text": " Unless you're Microsoft" }, { "start": 440.58, "end": 445.18, "text": " Here's what I know I've now seen the ps4 I've seen the Xbox I was there. Yeah" }, { "start": 446.46, "end": 451.24, "text": " The ps4 is a remarkably beautiful. It's it's so funny" }, { "start": 451.86, "end": 456.16, "text": " Sony's a really great hardware company. They built an astonishingly good piece of hardware" }, { "start": 456.16, "end": 462.34000000000003, "text": " That controller is excellent the ps4 in the ps4 than you'd like and there's the power supply it has a power supply" }, { "start": 462.34000000000003, "end": 462.5, "text": " Yes" }, { "start": 462.5, "end": 467.26000000000005, "text": " There's all those tear down photos where like you open it up and it looks like a race car inside with like a plastic cover" }, { "start": 467.26000000000005, "end": 473.46000000000004, "text": " over the internals and like the the air guide for the fan fans really small and then you look at the Xbox tear down and" }, { "start": 473.46000000000004, "end": 476.14000000000004, "text": " It's like they just built a gaming PC" }, { "start": 476.66, "end": 481.62, "text": " It's like a huge fan. It has this monster power brick sitting outside of it and it's like" }, { "start": 481.62, "end": 488.86, "text": " It looks like a cable box. They should be able to fit something. The other thing is it's not actually as powerful as the ps4" }, { "start": 488.86, "end": 495, "text": " So it's bigger. I think Microsoft went very conservative after a 1.5 billion dollar write-down on Xbox 360 failures" }, { "start": 495, "end": 497.3, "text": " And this time they were like, you know what put 19 fans in it" }, { "start": 498.06, "end": 500.06, "text": " Let's keep this mother cold" }, { "start": 500.1, "end": 504.9, "text": " We are not doing that again and Sony was like, let's build a race car. Yeah, and they did it" }, { "start": 504.9, "end": 511.94, "text": " It's it's a it is a I mean our review basically. I'm gonna recap it for you. This is editorially responsible perhaps but" }, { "start": 514.14, "end": 518.98, "text": " If you're a fanboy you have to stop listening starting right now and you can only start again in 15 seconds" }, { "start": 518.98, "end": 525.26, "text": " That's a federal law. Okay fanboy fanboy. Let's set this up. All right. We gotta hurry up. I got some sex left" }, { "start": 525.26, "end": 527.9, "text": " It's um, it's a really nice piece of hardware. They did everything right?" }, { "start": 527.9, "end": 532.18, "text": " They fixed most of the problems if not all the problems of the PlayStation 3 they made a great gaming system" }, { "start": 532.18, "end": 536.3, "text": " They told everybody we're making a gaming system not a media box and they didn't have any games for it. Oops. Yep. Yep" }, { "start": 537.06, "end": 540.78, "text": " Yeah, I mean that's how I feel about it. I mean I played a bunch of games" }, { "start": 541.42, "end": 546.3399999999999, "text": " School, it's got I mean if you're just interested in third-party games, they look better on the ps4" }, { "start": 546.3399999999999, "end": 549.9399999999999, "text": " So go ahead spend 400 bucks and get Battlefield 4 on it. I just think for most people" }, { "start": 550.5799999999999, "end": 554.0999999999999, "text": " If you have a current console, which you probably do why bother?" }, { "start": 555.02, "end": 560.5999999999999, "text": " Upgrading if you upgrade when there's games, that's the case for every generation like go back to ps3 go back to 360" }, { "start": 560.6, "end": 562.6, "text": " What?" }, { "start": 563.3000000000001, "end": 566.98, "text": " HD had HD a big update had Call of Duty 2" }, { "start": 567.66, "end": 570.28, "text": " guys, like but that that was also on the Xbox and like" }, { "start": 571.3000000000001, "end": 573.72, "text": " Xbox Live itself was not as big a thing as a net" }, { "start": 574.34, "end": 578.38, "text": " I know I bought a 360 about a 360 because I graduated from school" }, { "start": 578.38, "end": 583.34, "text": " I bought myself a flat panel TV and I wanted an HD video game console and that was the one that's a look nice" }, { "start": 583.34, "end": 585.46, "text": " right, so I think like I" }, { "start": 586.5, "end": 588.86, "text": " Think I mean for me personally I pre-ordered both" }, { "start": 588.86, "end": 591.14, "text": " Some people were canceling their pre-orders like why bother?" }, { "start": 591.14, "end": 594.74, "text": " Well, yeah, I think there's gonna be games I want before this thing drops in price" }, { "start": 594.74, "end": 599.12, "text": " So I'll just get it at this price. I think for the Xbox that's like obviously Titanfall, right?" }, { "start": 599.12, "end": 603.44, "text": " That's the one I keep here. Sure, but I also have a gaming PC. I'll probably play that there" }, { "start": 604.02, "end": 606.02, "text": " for me for Xbox, it's" }, { "start": 606.74, "end": 610.82, "text": " It's weird because for Xbox it's like there's one game quantum break remedy" }, { "start": 611.1800000000001, "end": 614.94, "text": " I'll buy anything remedy makes a very me makes a spreadsheet app" }, { "start": 614.94, "end": 619.6600000000001, "text": " I'm first guy in line and to be clear. This is like remedy did Alan Wake" }, { "start": 622.0200000000001, "end": 624.3800000000001, "text": " Yes, right she'd add it slows down time yeah" }, { "start": 625.9000000000001, "end": 631.2600000000001, "text": " With a narrator that's so poetic. Yeah, it seems so added these cells together. What does it mean?" }, { "start": 631.2600000000001, "end": 636.2600000000001, "text": " Mmm, it's kind of so hard-boiled the best. I am mark Wahlberg plays him in the movie for some reason" }, { "start": 639.3000000000001, "end": 643.74, "text": " So so like there's certain games for Xbox one like I just know I'm gonna want it for Xbox one" }, { "start": 643.74, "end": 647.04, "text": " I'm legitimately at launch more curious about the" }, { "start": 647.74, "end": 650.3, "text": " It's funny because what ended up happening was the opposite of what I expected" }, { "start": 651.3, "end": 654.78, "text": " The Xbox one seems to be I don't know. Our reviews are gonna go up next week" }, { "start": 654.78, "end": 656.86, "text": " We haven't played the launch games yet or I'm finished them" }, { "start": 657.46, "end": 662.94, "text": " Our console review goes up next week. It seems like they might have maybe better launch games, which I didn't expect" }, { "start": 662.94, "end": 666.26, "text": " I thought that Sony was gonna have yeah, because this gaming system. Um" }, { "start": 666.98, "end": 668.62, "text": " PlayStation 4 is cheaper" }, { "start": 668.62, "end": 670.46, "text": " I thought that the Xbox one" }, { "start": 670.46, "end": 674.1800000000001, "text": " I thought the only thing I'd be interested in was gonna be the media stuff" }, { "start": 674.1800000000001, "end": 676.82, "text": " I don't have cable at home like switching cable channels. I don't care" }, { "start": 677.58, "end": 681.94, "text": " But I thought that was gonna be like the interesting part. It still is pretty interesting. But um" }, { "start": 682.7, "end": 688.1800000000001, "text": " It's actually like hey, maybe maybe Dead Rising 3 is pretty good. Yeah, I don't know like maybe like forts" }, { "start": 688.1800000000001, "end": 691.9000000000001, "text": " It looks really nice. What's and then we have forza and then we have um" }, { "start": 692.4200000000001, "end": 697.9000000000001, "text": " Xbox go to forza. Yeah, motorsport. Yeah, so they're really angry email because the idea the feature night" }, { "start": 697.9, "end": 700.9399999999999, "text": " There's a video of me doing the voice commands and I said go to forza" }, { "start": 700.9399999999999, "end": 706.74, "text": " And I got a really angry email being like the reason the Xbox didn't understand you is because it's pronounced forza" }, { "start": 706.9, "end": 708.66, "text": " which is just" }, { "start": 708.66, "end": 712.06, "text": " combining like anger and fanboy aggression with like" }, { "start": 713.22, "end": 715.22, "text": " lyrical musical Italian pronunciation" }, { "start": 715.9399999999999, "end": 720.5, "text": " It's a delightful combination. I love console war fanboys" }, { "start": 720.5, "end": 726.16, "text": " You animal biased moron. I have not seen the South Park yet. There's a South Park episode. There's a link of it on YouTube" }, { "start": 726.16, "end": 727.9399999999999, "text": " or a clip of it on YouTube" }, { "start": 727.9399999999999, "end": 729.62, "text": " South Park did an episode last night" }, { "start": 729.62, "end": 735.5799999999999, "text": " I guess about the console wars where one group of the friends gets a position for and the other group gets the Xbox one" }, { "start": 735.5799999999999, "end": 738.2199999999999, "text": " You have to get the same one. Oh my god. They have a cute. How'd you do it?" }, { "start": 738.26, "end": 739.66, "text": " They um, yeah" }, { "start": 739.66, "end": 744.3, "text": " And so like the one group has the PlayStation 4 and they're like no you have to get this because we can all play together" }, { "start": 744.3, "end": 746.66, "text": " And so then they split and then at the end" }, { "start": 748.9399999999999, "end": 754.54, "text": " Cartman and they're also wearing their South Park stick of truth outfits from the game, um, which is also delayed" }, { "start": 754.54, "end": 757.26, "text": " Yeah, also delayed. So Cartman says something like" }, { "start": 758.3399999999999, "end": 762.76, "text": " Like let these idiots in their subpar voice recognition do whatever they want" }, { "start": 764.26, "end": 766.26, "text": " So good anyway" }, { "start": 766.5799999999999, "end": 770.86, "text": " Really funny also like kind of sad because honestly I like the arguments that are making in this episode. I" }, { "start": 771.6999999999999, "end": 775.28, "text": " Think I can literally bring up by the last couple of times. Yeah, it is" }, { "start": 775.86, "end": 780.4599999999999, "text": " Identical and guys like if you're on the internet right now, I just want this. It's like a this is I'm gonna talk to this camera" }, { "start": 780.5, "end": 782.5, "text": " yeah, this is a" }, { "start": 782.5, "end": 784.76, "text": " The more you know if you guys can put that little audio" }, { "start": 785.84, "end": 787.84, "text": " stinger in there" }, { "start": 787.96, "end": 794.2, "text": " if you sound like that's pretty good if you sound like an episode of South Park" }, { "start": 795.36, "end": 797.92, "text": " Re-evaluate your life decisions like seriously" }, { "start": 799.24, "end": 802.56, "text": " Those guys unless you're making South Park" }, { "start": 803.24, "end": 810.08, "text": " You've made some really poor life decisions and you should probably reevaluate what you do, right? And if this is that important to you like" }, { "start": 810.08, "end": 814.4000000000001, "text": " Like read a book learn to read maybe I don't know something like well, yeah" }, { "start": 814.4000000000001, "end": 820.4200000000001, "text": " Well learn to form an argument that has logic in this world anyway, so there is that one legitimate issue though" }, { "start": 820.4200000000001, "end": 822.8000000000001, "text": " It's like what are my friends getting because I want to play with them online" }, { "start": 824.32, "end": 826.32, "text": " Thank you, thank you guys" }, { "start": 827.08, "end": 832.36, "text": " Can we just zoo crew this entirely so we just have that all I don't want to do that for years soundboard" }, { "start": 832.76, "end": 835.24, "text": " Can you imagine like just like finally a fair fight with me?" }, { "start": 835.24, "end": 840.08, "text": " I'm watching we need morning DJ equipment. Um, whoo, God" }, { "start": 843.48, "end": 845.6800000000001, "text": " So, uh, listen a weird warning deejays" }, { "start": 847.96, "end": 849.96, "text": " It's farts toilet flushing" }, { "start": 852.8, "end": 856.72, "text": " It's like a freighter ship farts coming in a dog it's Philly radio" }, { "start": 858.44, "end": 860.44, "text": " Market, um, so" }, { "start": 861.08, "end": 863.08, "text": " the PlayStation 4 so" }, { "start": 863.08, "end": 865.5600000000001, "text": " This thing so like I was saying" }, { "start": 866.44, "end": 867.88, "text": " place it I" }, { "start": 867.88, "end": 870.5200000000001, "text": " Think the best console that Sony's ever made" }, { "start": 870.5200000000001, "end": 876, "text": " I think that they went feature by feature and address the shortcomings and failings of the ps3 ps3 is too expensive" }, { "start": 876.08, "end": 882.4000000000001, "text": " Okay, we're gonna make it at 400. That's cheaper than the Xbox 360 debuted at like this was a statement that price" }, { "start": 883.8000000000001, "end": 890.2, "text": " The ps4 was hard to program for because we invented a cell architecture process. Yes. Three was yeah, okay, excuse me" }, { "start": 890.2, "end": 896.46, "text": " So ps4 x86 like they went step by step and and literally a ps4 had a big" }, { "start": 896.6, "end": 900.48, "text": " Piece we had a big controller problem at first. It was the boomerang and they were oops. No boomerang" }, { "start": 900.48, "end": 904.84, "text": " Yeah, so then they made the six axis which had no rumble and the reason he fitted" }, { "start": 907.44, "end": 910.24, "text": " Rumbles the last generation technology. That was their quote" }, { "start": 910.24, "end": 914.44, "text": " So they forward you take shit out they backtracked on that and then the release the dual shock" }, { "start": 914.44, "end": 920.24, "text": " I and the dual shock was fine. It had had rumble, but it was not a great controller" }, { "start": 920.24, "end": 925.0400000000001, "text": " it had some fundamental problems at least of which you couldn't charge it when the system was off, but um" }, { "start": 926.0400000000001, "end": 931.98, "text": " So shock for they just all of that and you get the impression just like with Vita that this was a company" }, { "start": 932.24, "end": 936.84, "text": " That was tired of getting kicked in the teeth and they literally spent their time" }, { "start": 937.5200000000001, "end": 941.34, "text": " Taking notes for seven years and saying we're not gonna make these mistakes again" }, { "start": 941.34, "end": 944.74, "text": " Right and they didn't like they they literally fix this stuff" }, { "start": 944.74, "end": 948.22, "text": " I think the only complaint I could make and it's a little different because it's not included in the box" }, { "start": 948.22, "end": 949.7, "text": " I'm paying for is the camera" }, { "start": 949.7, "end": 955.34, "text": " Which is that Sony's got a long history of making camera peripherals and not supporting them and like I'm afraid we're gonna see that again" }, { "start": 955.34, "end": 959.88, "text": " We'll find out but um, but more important question who cares?" }, { "start": 960.7800000000001, "end": 964.02, "text": " Well, okay who cares right like this is the thing like oops" }, { "start": 964.02, "end": 968.58, "text": " I'm watching Microsoft dance around with the Kinect and like I yelled at it" }, { "start": 968.58, "end": 973.6600000000001, "text": " I'm sure Chris you you guys had the meeting everybody else had a couple weeks ago where you got to talk to the Kinect" }, { "start": 973.6600000000001, "end": 978.86, "text": " Yeah, right most people walked away from that most journalists. I know most stories are read said it kind of doesn't work" }, { "start": 979.5, "end": 984.0600000000001, "text": " The AP Washington Post or a P Washington Post post ran an AP headline" }, { "start": 984.86, "end": 989.1, "text": " About the Kinect and it was titled. Can you repeat that please? Right like here's" }, { "start": 990.4200000000001, "end": 992.4200000000001, "text": " And like we'll talk about the review" }, { "start": 992.62, "end": 995.6600000000001, "text": " When it works, it's really cool. Yeah, and I think for" }, { "start": 995.66, "end": 1000.56, "text": " 50% for the for the other person in your life. It works every time if you have" }, { "start": 1001.3399999999999, "end": 1003.74, "text": " If you have it hooked up to your TV and it's free" }, { "start": 1004.3399999999999, "end": 1006.02, "text": " When it works, it's cool" }, { "start": 1006.02, "end": 1011.5, "text": " You're hanging out in a small room and you say Xbox volume down. It works like that's nice Xbox mute" }, { "start": 1012.04, "end": 1014.26, "text": " but my problem with Kinect" }, { "start": 1015.4599999999999, "end": 1021.4599999999999, "text": " In the demo that we got and the connect that I have at home now is when I have to repeat myself" }, { "start": 1021.46, "end": 1028.38, "text": " If I'm in front of even myself, you know, I'm alone. It's embarrassing. It's embarrassing. Yes, it's not frustrating. It's embarrassing" }, { "start": 1028.74, "end": 1030.74, "text": " I'm alone Xbox mute" }, { "start": 1031.58, "end": 1032.68, "text": " Xbox" }, { "start": 1032.68, "end": 1035.98, "text": " Why is it embarrassing? It's just a bear. It's just like what am I doing?" }, { "start": 1037.22, "end": 1039.22, "text": " Where have I arrived in my life?" }, { "start": 1040.94, "end": 1042.5, "text": " You know" }, { "start": 1042.5, "end": 1044.78, "text": " Look, maybe yes or no on the pants situation" }, { "start": 1044.78, "end": 1050.56, "text": " But I'm just talking to a little bit of controllers as controllers are defined by like their accuracy and how much they work if I hit" }, { "start": 1050.56, "end": 1052.3799999999999, "text": " The W key on my keyboard it never hits E" }, { "start": 1052.3799999999999, "end": 1056.8, "text": " It always hits W every time and like that's what frustrates me about Kinect today" }, { "start": 1057.1599999999999, "end": 1060.34, "text": " The demo we got last week had some problems. It was in a giant open loft" }, { "start": 1060.34, "end": 1065.76, "text": " Yeah, who knows like maybe it'll be better in my living room. We used it upstairs in the game room for review and like" }, { "start": 1071.5, "end": 1073.8999999999999, "text": " But the air conditioner is during the day" }, { "start": 1074.74, "end": 1078.06, "text": " Super loud. Yeah, really loud in that room and it doesn't work" }, { "start": 1078.06, "end": 1082.4199999999998, "text": " I mean, I used to we have there's a video of me using it at Microsoft in a tiny little conference room" }, { "start": 1082.4199999999998, "end": 1086.22, "text": " And I everybody was repeating themselves. Yeah, and like it was like a little thing" }, { "start": 1087.46, "end": 1091.54, "text": " But the dream of it is still nice like I will pay but I'm saying that's great" }, { "start": 1093.54, "end": 1098.1599999999999, "text": " But with the ps4 it's like who cares like it doesn't come with camera use it" }, { "start": 1099.3, "end": 1100.02, "text": " It's fine" }, { "start": 1100.02, "end": 1104.02, "text": " But for Xbox it's more than gaming for like literally just to scream Xbox pause and have it work" }, { "start": 1104.02, "end": 1108.12, "text": " So I can get off my couch and not find the controller and just like watch Netflix. That's nice" }, { "start": 1108.54, "end": 1115.58, "text": " How do you get samples? How do you start watching that Netflix on Xbox Xbox being Sherlock or something more embarrassing like the Real Housewives?" }, { "start": 1116.06, "end": 1122.7, "text": " So this whole this whole situation from top to bottom for you. It's just like I'm just you repeating watch Sherlock over and over again" }, { "start": 1122.7, "end": 1126.34, "text": " It's something real housewives Atlanta Xbox watch Real Housewives" }, { "start": 1126.34, "end": 1131.4199999999998, "text": " You're screaming Jersey Xbox Xbox Bing Emanuel in space" }, { "start": 1132.3799999999999, "end": 1133.4599999999998, "text": " I" }, { "start": 1133.4599999999998, "end": 1137.26, "text": " Don't have Cinemax go. Oh, no, this is horrible" }, { "start": 1138.4599999999998, "end": 1140.4599999999998, "text": " It's a big Cinemax guy" }, { "start": 1141.1799999999998, "end": 1145.22, "text": " That that's that brings me back to my childhood. Yeah, go Cinemax go is a great" }, { "start": 1146.06, "end": 1150.1599999999999, "text": " They do some good stuff. Um, so the thing about ps4" }, { "start": 1151.1799999999998, "end": 1153.86, "text": " Dualshock video before it's got this big light on the back of the controller" }, { "start": 1153.86, "end": 1158.54, "text": " It's a vestigial leftover from when they yeah, should be a camera" }, { "start": 1158.54, "end": 1162.6599999999999, "text": " Yeah, no no from when they had a camera in the box like they built into every controller" }, { "start": 1162.6599999999999, "end": 1167.6, "text": " It always glows you can't turn it off. The way they talk about it now is oh you can look at it and see what?" }, { "start": 1167.6, "end": 1169.84, "text": " player you are yeah, you're blue and it's like no, I" }, { "start": 1170.84, "end": 1174.76, "text": " That doesn't make me we're low on health it turned red because you took oh my god" }, { "start": 1174.76, "end": 1179.54, "text": " So it has this big light on the back of it. So that is only a leftover. I'm an embarrassment" }, { "start": 1179.54, "end": 1184.86, "text": " That's only a leftover from when they included the camera and like so you can tell the camera used to be a bigger part of" }, { "start": 1184.86, "end": 1188.08, "text": " Their strategy and when they realized what Microsoft was doing they were like" }, { "start": 1188.6599999999999, "end": 1191.02, "text": " Cut it like we can cut this and save money" }, { "start": 1191.02, "end": 1195.1399999999999, "text": " And so I think that's probably for the best right if their focus is on gaming. This is a good strategy" }, { "start": 1196.6599999999999, "end": 1198.8799999999999, "text": " You know, the big problem is really that they" }, { "start": 1199.8, "end": 1203.62, "text": " They missed some big opportunities Drive Club got delayed. Yeah. Oops" }, { "start": 1204.58, "end": 1207.3, "text": " Watchdogs they knew it's a multi-platform game" }, { "start": 1207.3, "end": 1213.02, "text": " But it was co-marketed for PlayStation had some PlayStation specific features was also one of the few like next-gen games" }, { "start": 1213.02, "end": 1217.46, "text": " This was a game that was built to be next-gen and it was a bundled game" }, { "start": 1217.58, "end": 1222.62, "text": " They sold PS4 watchdog bundles. They canceled it three weeks before release" }, { "start": 1223.02, "end": 1228.62, "text": " They were those bundles were already made like the boxes. Yeah. Oops, like it was late" }, { "start": 1228.6599999999999, "end": 1232.1, "text": " So Sony I think came in hot at the last second" }, { "start": 1232.1, "end": 1236.34, "text": " We're realizing we don't have some of the games that we needed to make this a strong launch line" }, { "start": 1236.34, "end": 1240.8799999999999, "text": " Are they gonna get so with this launch matter is Christmas matter same difference for them really?" }, { "start": 1240.8799999999999, "end": 1244.9399999999998, "text": " I don't think unless they announced stuff March April. They haven't set a date. Okay" }, { "start": 1246.12, "end": 1250.74, "text": " So destiny is also another multi-platform game that's being co-marketed. That's the one made by" }, { "start": 1251.3799999999999, "end": 1253.54, "text": " Halo date, yeah, bungee former Halo developers" }, { "start": 1253.54, "end": 1258.54, "text": " So that's on Xbox one as well and elsewhere, but it's co-market for ps3 meaning our ps4" }, { "start": 1258.54, "end": 1261.34, "text": " You'll get some extra levels or features or modes or whatever" }, { "start": 1261.34, "end": 1267.8799999999999, "text": " Um infamous second son is gonna be their big first party exclusive for q1 or first half of next year" }, { "start": 1268.1, "end": 1271.9199999999998, "text": " It looks really good infamous as a game. It's been critically well received but" }, { "start": 1272.62, "end": 1278.02, "text": " There's government conspiracy, but you have superpowers. Yep, and you're in Seattle. It looks like Seattle and you're just around. Yeah, it's cool. Anyway, uh," }, { "start": 1278.8999999999999, "end": 1282.58, "text": " I know that they're all government conspiracies. It's it's not the little details. Yeah" }, { "start": 1285.6599999999999, "end": 1290.26, "text": " Here's what's disappointing for me about ps4 and the reason I was so excited about launch I was so excited about at e3" }, { "start": 1290.26, "end": 1294.6, "text": " Indies yeah, right this big focus on indie support" }, { "start": 1295.46, "end": 1302.22, "text": " Explain why Sony is different in this field in Microsoft. I think Microsoft's playing catch-up and I think in some which is so weird" }, { "start": 1302.22, "end": 1307.44, "text": " You know who you want to believe PC. Yeah, but who you want to believe Microsoft isn't even playing catch-up" }, { "start": 1307.44, "end": 1311.1, "text": " They're playing catch-up from a marketing standpoint and that idea at Xbox was always their strategy" }, { "start": 1311.1, "end": 1315.32, "text": " And the only reason I believe them on that is because this idea that every Xbox is a debug" }, { "start": 1315.74, "end": 1319.62, "text": " It's such a big ambitious idea. They're nowhere close" }, { "start": 1319.62, "end": 1323.1, "text": " They're not close to it. Yeah, but the idea that they even came up with it" }, { "start": 1323.1, "end": 1327.3, "text": " It was like that's like a big idea like you must have known that before and you just weren't ready to say it because you're far" }, { "start": 1327.3, "end": 1332.12, "text": " Away from it. Yeah, right, but then they got so beat up on the absence of Indies that they were like, look guys" }, { "start": 1332.12, "end": 1334.12, "text": " We have a plan. We're just like far away" }, { "start": 1334.6599999999999, "end": 1336.6599999999999, "text": " But so Sony's strategy" }, { "start": 1337.26, "end": 1339.9599999999998, "text": " It's not every ps4 is a dev kit" }, { "start": 1339.9599999999998, "end": 1344.3, "text": " It's not like an iPhone where you can just dab right on it and publish yourself directly and Apple takes a cut, right?" }, { "start": 1344.3, "end": 1348.54, "text": " They are still going around tapping Indies on the shoulder and saying hey, you seem like a cool dude" }, { "start": 1348.54, "end": 1355.26, "text": " We want your game. They're giving in these are not giving their loaning in these two dev kits, which are normally like 10 grand" }, { "start": 1355.26, "end": 1357.58, "text": " They're expensive. Yeah, but they're loaning it to them" }, { "start": 1357.58, "end": 1361.28, "text": " So they don't have to pay for it and they're giving them a publishing deal where they take a fixed rate" }, { "start": 1361.28, "end": 1367.78, "text": " There's no contract negotiation. Here's what we take. Yeah, it's similar to the competition. I've been told yeah, so 30% is Apple's cut" }, { "start": 1368.42, "end": 1372.84, "text": " So you can assume that that's how it works on ps4, but it's still this manual process" }, { "start": 1372.84, "end": 1375.02, "text": " So we're gonna go around and tap people on shoulders and pick games" }, { "start": 1375.02, "end": 1378.3, "text": " What if you didn't tap Rovio and didn't get Angry Birds?" }, { "start": 1378.3, "end": 1383.06, "text": " But if you didn't tap, you know supercell and get clash of clans on iOS" }, { "start": 1383.06, "end": 1389.5, "text": " Like you can't win every game that way one of their games at launch was called contrast and we gave it a horrible review" }, { "start": 1389.5, "end": 1391.5, "text": " It wasn't very good. So" }, { "start": 1391.78, "end": 1394.3799999999999, "text": " Indies like the market helps you" }, { "start": 1394.3799999999999, "end": 1396.1399999999999, "text": " That's what Microsoft talks about a lot" }, { "start": 1396.1399999999999, "end": 1400.9, "text": " But there are a lot of the Indies that they announced on stage D3 where Indies that we've been writing about on polygon for six" }, { "start": 1400.9, "end": 1402.9, "text": " Months, they're exciting and they're cool" }, { "start": 1402.9, "end": 1406.22, "text": " And there's a bunch of them. There's a lot" }, { "start": 1407.3000000000002, "end": 1412.8200000000002, "text": " And now I'm around launch. Yeah, they had a reso gun by a city called house mark" }, { "start": 1412.8200000000002, "end": 1419.26, "text": " Which was also a launch title for ps3 also a launch title for PlayStation Vita and now another house mark game" }, { "start": 1419.26, "end": 1421.8200000000002, "text": " It's launched out for ps4. It's really good. It's the best game of the lineup" }, { "start": 1422.98, "end": 1428.14, "text": " But where's all the other Indies? And also, you know if it's like I love reso gun like it's a hard game to show other people" }, { "start": 1428.14, "end": 1430.38, "text": " It's like it looks like a space shooter. It's like it looks like noise" }, { "start": 1430.38, "end": 1437.6000000000001, "text": " Yeah, like if I'm gonna show anything like the family to non hardcore gamers like it's knack and knack is not it's fine for an hour" }, { "start": 1437.8200000000002, "end": 1441.5800000000002, "text": " It's really fun for an hour. You played it for an hour yesterday on the live stream" }, { "start": 1441.5800000000002, "end": 1445.98, "text": " I know we played for a half hour and then David tried to teach me Madden and that was embarrassing" }, { "start": 1445.98, "end": 1450.6000000000001, "text": " Oh, I should watch that part. I don't know about that. They do have Madden at launch. Yes, that's something" }, { "start": 1450.66, "end": 1456.5, "text": " It's always a racing game a sports game a shooting game and something that the family is supposed to like but it's built by people" }, { "start": 1456.5, "end": 1458.5, "text": " Who don't know what families are interestingly" }, { "start": 1458.5, "end": 1462.24, "text": " EA moved up the release date of Need for Speed rivals by a week" }, { "start": 1462.46, "end": 1466.84, "text": " By the way, in order to hit as far as I can tell not a two-player game in any way need for speed rivals" }, { "start": 1466.84, "end": 1470.94, "text": " Yeah, probably not. No, but yeah, what rivals like like it's a game with a cop" }, { "start": 1470.94, "end": 1476.78, "text": " other side and you're running from the cops and robbers played Need for Speed hot pursuit many times and like the best part is I" }, { "start": 1476.78, "end": 1478.78, "text": " I'm the" }, { "start": 1478.9, "end": 1483.18, "text": " On the internet with other people I'm in my home" }, { "start": 1483.18, "end": 1488.22, "text": " Yeah, okay, so what I understand that's another web co-op split-screen local multiplayer" }, { "start": 1488.22, "end": 1493.22, "text": " That is not a huge thing at launch at all for either. There are some I think I think ghosts has split-screen" }, { "start": 1494.14, "end": 1499.0600000000002, "text": " Yeah, ghost knack sports. I'm sure Madden has yeah two-player. It's like I don't know" }, { "start": 1499.0600000000002, "end": 1501.8400000000001, "text": " I mean general it's not a big focus for a lot of games" }, { "start": 1502.6200000000001, "end": 1506.5600000000002, "text": " Couch multiplayer is popular for certain games that are really good at it" }, { "start": 1506.56, "end": 1514.04, "text": " Um, the most popular game at Vox's New York office here by a long shot. Yes is Towerfall. Yeah, which right now is an OUYA" }, { "start": 1514.04, "end": 1516.12, "text": " Game it's supposed to be coming to PC at some point" }, { "start": 1516.6399999999999, "end": 1517.6799999999998, "text": " and" }, { "start": 1517.6799999999998, "end": 1523.3999999999999, "text": " It's like the best game ever. Um, that's a good that's a game where even if they had online multiplayer who wants it" }, { "start": 1523.3999999999999, "end": 1525.3999999999999, "text": " It's like it works really well" }, { "start": 1526.24, "end": 1530.1599999999999, "text": " I'm sorry. I think that's the one thing in 10 has always gotten right every launch like that" }, { "start": 1530.1599999999999, "end": 1534.84, "text": " You can play at home with friends no matter what you look at the Wii U which we reviewed a year ago" }, { "start": 1534.84, "end": 1540.6799999999998, "text": " The criticisms we gave it where that the hardware was half-baked. Yeah, you know the online was half-baked" }, { "start": 1540.6799999999998, "end": 1542.6799999999998, "text": " They didn't fix a lot of the problems, but" }, { "start": 1542.72, "end": 1544.72, "text": " There's some good launch games, right?" }, { "start": 1544.72, "end": 1547.22, "text": " That's the thing about Nintendo was like that like you can count on that" }, { "start": 1547.3999999999999, "end": 1552.36, "text": " Even they had some good third-party exclusive zombie you was like a really unique use of that screen" }, { "start": 1552.36, "end": 1556, "text": " We haven't seen a use of that second screen as good as that since that and that was a lot" }, { "start": 1556, "end": 1557.56, "text": " Let's talk about that for like two seconds" }, { "start": 1557.56, "end": 1563.28, "text": " Like Xbox 360 way back when launching a year before ps3 and Wii and like when the PS3 was first coming out" }, { "start": 1563.28, "end": 1567.32, "text": " They had Gears of War so we're one year into Wii U they have a one-year head start" }, { "start": 1567.32, "end": 1572.76, "text": " Is there anything that's like even comparable to like what's going on? We are running a review for Super Mario 3d world" }, { "start": 1572.76, "end": 1575.7, "text": " It's a Mario game. It's a Mario game. If you like Mario games" }, { "start": 1575.7, "end": 1580.24, "text": " I don't think I'm giving too much away based on our preview coverage. You're gonna really like this one. Yeah" }, { "start": 1584.8799999999999, "end": 1588.8999999999999, "text": " And that's it there was there's Mario there's Pikmin 3 in August if you like" }, { "start": 1588.9, "end": 1593.6000000000001, "text": " Do you know what Nintendo could win the season by putting out Mario for the iPad?" }, { "start": 1594.3200000000002, "end": 1599.0400000000002, "text": " General intended win the season. I'm gonna I'm gonna go with a more realistic more money than either one of these guys" }, { "start": 1599.0400000000002, "end": 1605.72, "text": " I think more realistic Mario and iPad would be hard to control. Yeah, I think if they were to make you see iPad games" }, { "start": 1605.72, "end": 1608.3200000000002, "text": " Yeah, I didn't stop anybody else. They were to make a Nintendo" }, { "start": 1609.24, "end": 1611.24, "text": " Pass, let's call it. Let's call it" }, { "start": 1612.6000000000001, "end": 1617, "text": " Nintendo all you can play but the U is spelled with the U because it's Wii U" }, { "start": 1617, "end": 1621.64, "text": " Um all that makes me want to kill myself and um really want to do a suicide. Hey" }, { "start": 1622.4, "end": 1624.72, "text": " And it's not all you can play is 999 a month" }, { "start": 1624.72, "end": 1625, "text": " Yeah" }, { "start": 1625, "end": 1625.32, "text": " Okay" }, { "start": 1625.32, "end": 1631.1, "text": " And you get every NES game then to know as the rights to every SNES game in to knows the rights to every n64" }, { "start": 1631.1, "end": 1635.9, "text": " And they have the rights to every GameCube game and it's all on your Wii U and you can just load them up play" }, { "start": 1635.9, "end": 1638.22, "text": " Whatever you want, right 999 a month" }, { "start": 1640.12, "end": 1643.44, "text": " They're just ROMs you can download them from from that torrent right now" }, { "start": 1643.44, "end": 1647.72, "text": " Like you literally if you were to don't do it because it's legal, but if you were to search for it" }, { "start": 1647.72, "end": 1651.3200000000002, "text": " You can find all that stuff. Do it. Um, you are a you are a" }, { "start": 1652.04, "end": 1656.28, "text": " Six minute download from every NES and SNES game of all time, right? Um" }, { "start": 1658.52, "end": 1663.4, "text": " Why can't I get those on they make a big deal of the release of earthbound" }, { "start": 1663.52, "end": 1668.54, "text": " It's like that's one game and everyone's already pirated a million times. It's a game for decades. Yeah" }, { "start": 1668.54, "end": 1671.98, "text": " Yeah, it's like I even said it was smart. You had this amazing history" }, { "start": 1671.98, "end": 1676.1200000000001, "text": " I will pay you for that. Yeah, people are paying five dollars a month for" }, { "start": 1677.3600000000001, "end": 1681.98, "text": " PlayStation Network and Xbox Live just to play games online not even to get a bunch of free stuff" }, { "start": 1683.04, "end": 1689.52, "text": " Part of this was like Sega strategy Sega bounced out of like the console industry. It's like look we have Sonic people like the hedgehog" }, { "start": 1689.52, "end": 1692.44, "text": " Let's just put that on other consoles people like the hedgehog people like the hedgehog" }, { "start": 1693, "end": 1699.22, "text": " And like well and that and that Sega example is the best example for why Nintendo should not do this. Yes. Yeah" }, { "start": 1699.22, "end": 1701.22, "text": " It's not" }, { "start": 1701.5, "end": 1703.5, "text": " Worked um, so" }, { "start": 1704.8600000000001, "end": 1711.82, "text": " Yes for I think he's back the poor decrepit PS4 I think the PS4 is it's very pretty is really" }, { "start": 1712.22, "end": 1716.54, "text": " Great, like I think it's a great system. Does it run it runs? I'm sure it's a Linux based" }, { "start": 1717.22, "end": 1719.22, "text": " minus, um, but it" }, { "start": 1720.02, "end": 1724.46, "text": " Like yeah, it's not as far as I can tell it doesn't like it's this is very much the" }, { "start": 1724.46, "end": 1729.18, "text": " PS3 Vita kind of interface. It's not a WebKit browser either. It's actually a WebKit browser" }, { "start": 1729.18, "end": 1733.38, "text": " I loaded it up and looked at it. It says like Mozilla something but it's WebKit. Okay, so" }, { "start": 1734.06, "end": 1738.42, "text": " Mozilla but it's WebKit. It says Mozilla to be like or rather the character or the" }, { "start": 1741.38, "end": 1743.38, "text": " But it's a WebKit based browser, um" }, { "start": 1744.38, "end": 1746.98, "text": " It's nice. Here's the thing I can say about it. It's very fast" }, { "start": 1746.98, "end": 1752.96, "text": " Um, I think it's built to be changed the ps3 wasn't they couldn't really change much of it and this is different" }, { "start": 1752.96, "end": 1757.54, "text": " I think this menu that you're looking at right now the notifications on use one of the examples of a confusing menu" }, { "start": 1757.54, "end": 1763.06, "text": " Here's the settings. This makes no sense to me. This is the settings menu is also confusing. They make these lists" }, { "start": 1763.58, "end": 1765.58, "text": " of things and so" }, { "start": 1765.92, "end": 1770.1000000000001, "text": " The ps3 at the same problem the leftmost settings menu is just like here's a list of everything" }, { "start": 1770.1000000000001, "end": 1774.74, "text": " Right in this case you have like the notifications menu which has underneath it notifications" }, { "start": 1775.42, "end": 1777.42, "text": " invitations game alerts" }, { "start": 1777.5, "end": 1779.38, "text": " downloads and uploads" }, { "start": 1779.38, "end": 1784.5600000000002, "text": " Next to it you have friends and I'm there there's other inboxes like friend requests and also name requests" }, { "start": 1784.5600000000002, "end": 1787.0400000000002, "text": " Both of those are also notifications though. They go over in this other one" }, { "start": 1787.5400000000002, "end": 1792.8400000000001, "text": " Like it's there's some confusing. This is like this is hilarious to me" }, { "start": 1793.5400000000002, "end": 1801.3600000000001, "text": " Because it's so thoroughly captures the reality of this market which Sony builds incredible hardware. Yes, and Microsoft is a software company" }, { "start": 1801.3600000000001, "end": 1804.3400000000001, "text": " Yep, and there's software. I will tell you the Xbox one software is" }, { "start": 1804.34, "end": 1810.34, "text": " It's it's I mean there's is when I was playing with it. There's like dead ends and weird stuff all over the place" }, { "start": 1810.34, "end": 1812.34, "text": " And they're saying they got to finish it" }, { "start": 1812.6599999999999, "end": 1818.1799999999998, "text": " But it's an operating system in a truest sense of like this feels like an operating system" }, { "start": 1818.1799999999998, "end": 1823.4599999999998, "text": " I think I want to find things it's easier to find on that like and this is thing like the what's new section of" }, { "start": 1823.62, "end": 1828.78, "text": " The PlayStation 4 UI what the hell were they thinking? 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Basically said like" }, { "start": 1849.94, "end": 1851.94, "text": " Yeah, like this works for now" }, { "start": 1854.1399999999999, "end": 1857.04, "text": " So like look at the screen look at the screen right here" }, { "start": 1857.04, "end": 1859.94, "text": " It should be this this be the first this is I think where it's like" }, { "start": 1860.22, "end": 1864.7, "text": " They made a game console and then they like added in some of this other stuff this operating system stuff" }, { "start": 1864.7, "end": 1870.18, "text": " And it's like they didn't think it through because they were so focused on making like Chris said like a better game console" }, { "start": 1870.48, "end": 1876.18, "text": " Which I applaud them for because they're focused and like I think they made a good game console. Yeah, I think it's a focus" }, { "start": 1876.18, "end": 1878.18, "text": " They didn't" }, { "start": 1878.26, "end": 1880.6599999999999, "text": " They didn't get to have in 2006" }, { "start": 1881.98, "end": 1885.78, "text": " It's like part of me feels like I don't care. What is this excuse?" }, { "start": 1885.78, "end": 1889.06, "text": " I didn't get to have it because they were building this blu-ray media powered thing" }, { "start": 1889.66, "end": 1893.2, "text": " That was a good idea. There's a corporate mandate to build a" }, { "start": 1893.98, "end": 1895.98, "text": " media box" }, { "start": 1897.22, "end": 1901.54, "text": " It's funny cuz that's Microsoft's corporate mandate right now, yep without question" }, { "start": 1902.46, "end": 1906.84, "text": " Sony's big thing is one Sony like everything should be integrated like this thing" }, { "start": 1906.84, "end": 1910.62, "text": " I should under the Sony plays blu-rays, but they don't want to talk about that" }, { "start": 1911.46, "end": 1913.46, "text": " No, because they can't talk about it" }, { "start": 1913.46, "end": 1917.06, "text": " it look if you're Sony right now and you are" }, { "start": 1918.42, "end": 1920.46, "text": " Cause her I you the CEO of Sony and you've got" }, { "start": 1921.3, "end": 1927.82, "text": " Often confused for cost. Yes. I'm often you would be you're both very handsome. Uh, who said who's ahead of PlayStation?" }, { "start": 1928.74, "end": 1931.82, "text": " Andrew that house Andrew house. Is it officially?" }, { "start": 1932.82, "end": 1938.02, "text": " For people it's it's it's Andrew house and then Phil Molina who runs Sony Electronics, right?" }, { "start": 1938.02, "end": 1944.34, "text": " So you've got these two guys Phil Molina was running around his brother if you didn't know I don't know it's not true. I'm always" }, { "start": 1944.34, "end": 1948.12, "text": " I do always get them confused by the way, it's very it's like it's not right" }, { "start": 1948.1399999999999, "end": 1952.66, "text": " Well, it's also Phil Spencer at Microsoft is software than Peter Molyneux. It's very confusing first" }, { "start": 1953.98, "end": 1957.9, "text": " I'm always like what inscrutable riddle do you have for me today and feels like it's a 4k TV" }, { "start": 1957.9, "end": 1968.9, "text": " Your TVs watched you" }, { "start": 1974.18, "end": 1975.18, "text": " He's like a nice guy" }, { "start": 1975.18, "end": 1981.66, "text": " I ever I go to Sony Electronics events and he's like 4k TV better audio like more pixels more bits" }, { "start": 1981.66, "end": 1987.3200000000002, "text": " Yeah, and that's they're pushing that for it and it doesn't do any of that. Don't anything happened. This is my reading" }, { "start": 1987.32, "end": 1989.7, "text": " I have no idea Sony doesn't talk about the stuff" }, { "start": 1991.46, "end": 1993.46, "text": " Who runs Sony now" }, { "start": 1993.9399999999998, "end": 1997.8999999999999, "text": " Cause right. Yeah, yes cause right. What did cause right do before he ran Sony?" }, { "start": 1997.8999999999999, "end": 2004.06, "text": " He ran PlayStation and what do you do before you ran all of PlayStation? You're in PlayStation of America specifically. Oh, right" }, { "start": 2004.06, "end": 2006.06, "text": " So any computer team in America?" }, { "start": 2006.26, "end": 2011.3, "text": " Japanese American educated lived here ran PlayStation here" }, { "start": 2011.3, "end": 2015.06, "text": " Yeah, which was their strongest market for a long time and grew the PlayStation brand" }, { "start": 2015.06, "end": 2019.46, "text": " He has a lot of credibility inside the company, but he also understands what PlayStation is good at right?" }, { "start": 2020.02, "end": 2023.62, "text": " Sony's good at which is video games. I think when they were making PlayStation 4" }, { "start": 2023.62, "end": 2027.96, "text": " This was a guy who was in America watching the PlayStation 3" }, { "start": 2027.96, "end": 2031.22, "text": " Sorry, this is guys in America watching the PlayStation 3 get its butt kicked" }, { "start": 2031.26, "end": 2034.1399999999999, "text": " Yeah in an embarrassing way because of decisions that were made really far away" }, { "start": 2034.1399999999999, "end": 2037.62, "text": " This is this is the Kim Kutaragi held pre Howard Stringer Sony" }, { "start": 2037.62, "end": 2041.3799999999999, "text": " This is we are gonna make a cell powered blu-ray player for the home. That's gonna cure cancer" }, { "start": 2041.38, "end": 2045.9, "text": " Didn't have like two HDMI ports at some point at one point at two HDMI ports to Ethernet point. It was like" }, { "start": 2045.9, "end": 2049.78, "text": " Yeah, it was a computer. It was a computer. That's no computer has that many HDMI" }, { "start": 2052.98, "end": 2056.86, "text": " I think Kaz watch that from America and I think the American audience more than most audiences" }, { "start": 2056.86, "end": 2062.08, "text": " I mean the PlayStation 3 relative to North America did better in Europe and Japan. I have a launch PS 3" }, { "start": 2062.08, "end": 2064.08, "text": " So why I saw it's beautiful" }, { "start": 2064.42, "end": 2066.42, "text": " 600 pounds" }, { "start": 2066.42, "end": 2071.5, "text": " 11 times right here. Yeah, so I I think when they were doing the PlayStation 4" }, { "start": 2071.5, "end": 2075.54, "text": " I think that there was a focus like I said a focus they didn't get to have in 2006 where it's like look" }, { "start": 2075.54, "end": 2079.38, "text": " This is what we do. Well, let's do that. Let's stop with this other stuff" }, { "start": 2079.92, "end": 2083.62, "text": " 4k, you know, what 4k games are like, they're gonna like nothing because it's too many pixels, right?" }, { "start": 2083.62, "end": 2087.86, "text": " Let's just make a good game. This is the issue. I think you're either called it or battlefield for" }, { "start": 2088.46, "end": 2095.42, "text": " Review mentioned this it was great battlefield for whatever it was like it's more pixels 1080p actual 1080p on PS4" }, { "start": 2095.42, "end": 2101.26, "text": " Yeah, but on the Xbox 720 I've got a lot of this but it's consistent framerate 60 frames per second" }, { "start": 2101.26, "end": 2103.58, "text": " I think push what they could I think ghosts I" }, { "start": 2104.2200000000003, "end": 2106.2200000000003, "text": " Think they're gonna patch it really" }, { "start": 2106.82, "end": 2111.76, "text": " Battlefield runs 1080p and it runs really well. Okay, I think ghosts it's it's this new engine" }, { "start": 2111.98, "end": 2117.46, "text": " It's not I mean the other thing is it's not out yet. Like that's like they have they've had review events" }, { "start": 2117.46, "end": 2120.62, "text": " It's the day one patch that we played it on they've acknowledged it" }, { "start": 2120.62, "end": 2125.3599999999997, "text": " Like IGN also wrote up trying to bomb rub like it wasn't just us saying it had a framerate problem on ps4" }, { "start": 2125.74, "end": 2129.5, "text": " And and for and for at least for us and think some other outlets agree" }, { "start": 2130.56, "end": 2133.08, "text": " Resolution doesn't matter. Yeah, right frame rate dips" }, { "start": 2133.9, "end": 2136.22, "text": " Especially in multiplayer where you're trying not to get shot" }, { "start": 2136.22, "end": 2139.06, "text": " We watched a bunch where you're playing with a piece where we watched a bunch of framerate dips" }, { "start": 2139.06, "end": 2144.22, "text": " Yeah, first we did it so a lot actually it's launched up. It's early. We weren't having any fun" }, { "start": 2144.22, "end": 2146.22, "text": " We were just intently staring at the screen" }, { "start": 2146.22, "end": 2152.8199999999997, "text": " Watching the framerate is a more powerful console. I think you will see it because it's so close to the Xbox one" }, { "start": 2153.2599999999998, "end": 2159.7799999999997, "text": " Differentiate itself on multi-platform games. Yeah, I think some of these are first games have need some work. Yeah, you know, whatever" }, { "start": 2160.74, "end": 2164.9399999999996, "text": " But I experience the PlayStation by the way through the ps3 and now just a little bit of ps4" }, { "start": 2164.9399999999996, "end": 2168.3799999999997, "text": " I has been waiting for things to download right? That's all" }, { "start": 2169.58, "end": 2175.14, "text": " It's like I want to do something in the PlayStation and the entire PlayStation universe is like but wait for something else to happen" }, { "start": 2175.14, "end": 2177.74, "text": " I think you're gonna see the same thing on on Xbox one" }, { "start": 2177.74, "end": 2181.62, "text": " So the way that both of these consoles work is that you have to install every game before you can play it. Yeah" }, { "start": 2181.62, "end": 2186.3399999999997, "text": " I mean they both work that way they both come with 500 card drives and games need to be on the hard drive to run" }, { "start": 2187.1, "end": 2190.72, "text": " The way that they both do it also is that you can start playing games before they're done downloading" }, { "start": 2190.8199999999997, "end": 2194.96, "text": " And I'm actually not entirely positive if that works day one on Xbox one" }, { "start": 2194.96, "end": 2200.9, "text": " But on ps4 you can start playing a game before it's done downloading if you put a disk in" }, { "start": 2200.9, "end": 2205.1, "text": " It will start immediately copying files before you do anything. It just starts copying right?" }, { "start": 2205.1, "end": 2207.5, "text": " Um, you can start playing that right away" }, { "start": 2208.14, "end": 2213.6600000000003, "text": " Really quickly and it will keep installing the background. We were playing NBA 2k14 last night" }, { "start": 2213.86, "end": 2218.54, "text": " We were playing it within about a minute maybe 90 seconds because it had to install some stuff first" }, { "start": 2218.54, "end": 2221.7000000000003, "text": " Yeah, then we're playing it and the install was like another half an hour" }, { "start": 2221.9, "end": 2225.98, "text": " But it gave us enough stuff right away and it's like pick your lineup" }, { "start": 2225.98, "end": 2230.78, "text": " So you're picking your team and so loaded that stuff and it loaded those players and it loaded that one stadium" }, { "start": 2230.78, "end": 2233.5800000000004, "text": " And then your gate your matches 30 minutes install in the background" }, { "start": 2233.6200000000003, "end": 2237.0600000000004, "text": " That was a super elegant way of doing it. And sometimes it's frustrating to say I" }, { "start": 2237.5800000000004, "end": 2239.6600000000003, "text": " Want to play this immediately, but on the other hand" }, { "start": 2240.86, "end": 2245.94, "text": " We were in a game in 90 seconds. Yeah, and then by the time it was done it was installed" }, { "start": 2246.98, "end": 2251.3, "text": " Compared to ps3. I remember specifically Metal Gear Solid 4 when that came out" }, { "start": 2252.46, "end": 2257.6600000000003, "text": " In its defense they were very creative about the whole 37 minutes all process. Here's snakes smoking a cigarette" }, { "start": 2257.66, "end": 2261.02, "text": " Here's a bunch of random humors like kind of funny fact is changed" }, { "start": 2261.98, "end": 2265.7799999999997, "text": " You know next time war never changes. So I" }, { "start": 2266.42, "end": 2270.02, "text": " Mean they've masked some of it right they went into it and said look we know this is gonna be a problem" }, { "start": 2270.02, "end": 2272.02, "text": " Let's lean into it and make it the best we can" }, { "start": 2272.5, "end": 2276.58, "text": " Like I said, I'm not sure about Xbox one, but I know it does install games" }, { "start": 2276.58, "end": 2279.7799999999997, "text": " And I think they also allow you to download games start playing them. So it's similar" }, { "start": 2280.54, "end": 2282.54, "text": " thing with the Xbox one in at this" }, { "start": 2283.58, "end": 2286.3599999999997, "text": " They built a computer. It's a Windows PC" }, { "start": 2286.36, "end": 2293.46, "text": " I don't know why it doesn't do Windows PC things like not like desktops and file copying. It's got MS Paint on there" }, { "start": 2293.46, "end": 2298.06, "text": " Yeah, I mean why doesn't it like connect control it does like this app situation?" }, { "start": 2298.06, "end": 2304.38, "text": " So I'm talking about this for Xbox one and when they announced ID at Xbox it was like duh. Yeah, you can self publish stuff" }, { "start": 2304.38, "end": 2308.26, "text": " Yeah, like on a Windows PC is like right exactly like you so Windows PC" }, { "start": 2308.3, "end": 2313.02, "text": " Yeah, and like what they're not talking about yet and Al Pinello at Xbox said, you know" }, { "start": 2313.02, "end": 2317.86, "text": " I asked him about it last week at the New York. He said like you have to talk to the idea Xbox guys. Um," }, { "start": 2318.86, "end": 2320.86, "text": " So you can make games you can independently?" }, { "start": 2320.86, "end": 2327.66, "text": " I want to independently publish my Spotify app because I'm Spotify right and you guys have Xbox music and it's tied into things here and there" }, { "start": 2327.66, "end": 2332.2599999999998, "text": " That's cool. Give me the hooks. I'd really like to tie into that same stuff as Spotify" }, { "start": 2332.2599999999998, "end": 2336.34, "text": " I asked him if a Twitter app would be able to show notifications. I was like, can you build an email app?" }, { "start": 2336.34, "end": 2340.66, "text": " They don't have the answers for any of this. Yeah, I don't think they know but he basically said look that that would be under" }, { "start": 2340.66, "end": 2345.98, "text": " The idea Xbox program. I think they're looking at anything self-published to go under there. The thing is that is the" }, { "start": 2346.8199999999997, "end": 2348.8199999999997, "text": " That's what they need to win. Yeah, and like" }, { "start": 2349.42, "end": 2355.3799999999997, "text": " My concern about the PlayStation 4 longer term at launch. It's 400 bucks. It's cheaper. It's super powerful" }, { "start": 2355.3799999999997, "end": 2358.44, "text": " It's really nice-looking. It's gonna have a ton of the best indie games in the world on it" }, { "start": 2358.44, "end": 2361.44, "text": " You can cross play them to your Vita and I really like the Vita a lot" }, { "start": 2361.44, "end": 2365.06, "text": " It's like one of my favorite systems out now really wait. Wait, I use that thing all the time" }, { "start": 2365.06, "end": 2368.42, "text": " But what what else are you playing with? I just monkey man. Really? Yeah" }, { "start": 2368.42, "end": 2374.98, "text": " It's like another one this great couch multiplayer monkey persona. It's great person. I do love it's a small portable console" }, { "start": 2374.98, "end": 2376.1, "text": " I need to play more video games" }, { "start": 2376.1, "end": 2381.1, "text": " It's got some problems on it like my by far biggest concern with the Vita which drives me nuts" }, { "start": 2381.2200000000003, "end": 2383.3, "text": " They have this new Vita coming out. It still isn't addressed" }, { "start": 2384.14, "end": 2386.14, "text": " It's a digital system. That's awesome" }, { "start": 2387.34, "end": 2389.34, "text": " for digital stuff and then they sell you" }, { "start": 2389.7400000000002, "end": 2393.2400000000002, "text": " little memory cards that aren't aren't big enough and they are about a" }, { "start": 2393.24, "end": 2399.2, "text": " This remote play stuff is a 7 to 10 X increase in price. Like it's it's insane" }, { "start": 2399.72, "end": 2405.56, "text": " So if you I think Sony Sony got some of this right with the PSP go had a lot of storage on it" }, { "start": 2405.56, "end": 2412.4599999999996, "text": " Yeah, if the Vita had had a bunch of internal storage or use SD cards or something, it would be so easy to recommend right now" }, { "start": 2412.4599999999996, "end": 2418.68, "text": " It's like if you're a game nerd like me, I think it's awesome. Well, it's like that really expensive proprietary. It's not quite" }, { "start": 2418.68, "end": 2420.68, "text": " I" }, { "start": 2421.44, "end": 2425.54, "text": " This is great in like so the thing is I'm gonna buy this I'm gonna play Madden in bed" }, { "start": 2425.64, "end": 2432.72, "text": " Then that happy for the first time I work that will work. But the problem is that's text is so freaking I don't need text" }, { "start": 2433.08, "end": 2435.08, "text": " Okay, he already knows all the moves" }, { "start": 2435.44, "end": 2440.96, "text": " How you push all the buttons and screen he knows the gold tenor the three-point line can get a hat trick and like not get" }, { "start": 2440.96, "end": 2442.96, "text": " A red card or whatever the hell" }, { "start": 2443.16, "end": 2445.8399999999997, "text": " No matter how small the text is and it's fine" }, { "start": 2445.84, "end": 2451.84, "text": " Um, yeah, I've used the shield at home. Yeah, I'm playing PC games and PC games just like ps4 games" }, { "start": 2452.6000000000004, "end": 2456.2000000000003, "text": " You know kill zones a great example super dense like it's visually dense" }, { "start": 2456.2000000000003, "end": 2459.08, "text": " There's so much stuff going on when you shrink that down to a Vita screen" }, { "start": 2459.56, "end": 2461.56, "text": " My eyes are pretty okay" }, { "start": 2461.88, "end": 2467.28, "text": " It it gives me a headache I couldn't read the tutorials of it when I was gonna gun the mo like it's impossible on that" }, { "start": 2467.28, "end": 2470.6400000000003, "text": " I think it's really cool. I think some games will work really well for remote play" }, { "start": 2470.6400000000003, "end": 2473.48, "text": " Yeah, I think some things like shooters that are too busy like like NAC" }, { "start": 2473.48, "end": 2478.92, "text": " I think we're scroll for remote play because look at it. It's like big and easy. But yeah, some of it is hard to do" }, { "start": 2478.92, "end": 2484.76, "text": " Um, it's neat though. I think they've built a neat ecosystem. I think they've built the best video games" }, { "start": 2485.4, "end": 2488.12, "text": " Video game console out there. Here's right. Here's where I'm landing" }, { "start": 2488.12, "end": 2491.88, "text": " I don't know what their long-term plan is a Microsoft's long-term plan is really obvious" }, { "start": 2491.88, "end": 2496.2400000000002, "text": " But but my sense of Microsoft's long-term plan is that it is a long-term plan" }, { "start": 2496.2400000000002, "end": 2500.4, "text": " It's a very long term plan. And the thing that they're putting out right now is ultra half-baked" }, { "start": 2500.4, "end": 2507.96, "text": " And I just wrote, you know a pretty positive 3700 word feature at the 15 minute video on the Xbox one and" }, { "start": 2508.28, "end": 2512.6800000000003, "text": " I feel like five years from now all the things they told me might come true" }, { "start": 2513.2400000000002, "end": 2517.62, "text": " But right at this second, you know, we're gonna get it your reviews coming out. We got we're gonna have a review, too" }, { "start": 2518.36, "end": 2522.84, "text": " but just playing with what they have now it's like you got a lot of really good ideas here and" }, { "start": 2523.64, "end": 2528.7200000000003, "text": " Your TV idea is terrible. It's really bad. It's just a bad idea. I'm telling you right now" }, { "start": 2528.72, "end": 2530.72, "text": " it's a good idea for" }, { "start": 2532.3999999999996, "end": 2537.56, "text": " You know if you have if you are a gamer and you have a cable box you never watch your cable box" }, { "start": 2537.56, "end": 2542.2999999999997, "text": " You're like, maybe this will make me watch more TV. Here's the thing if you are anybody else. Here's the thing" }, { "start": 2542.2999999999997, "end": 2544.52, "text": " I did I did a this morning with" }, { "start": 2545.3199999999997, "end": 2547.3199999999997, "text": " Morning Edition. Yeah" }, { "start": 2547.56, "end": 2554.56, "text": " They were interested in the Xbox one because of the way it's being marketed. I think that Microsoft is being savvy" }, { "start": 2554.56, "end": 2559.1, "text": " I think they've eaten a lot of crow on the web. Yeah" }, { "start": 2559.56, "end": 2562.88, "text": " For not focusing on games and it's marketing and it's messaging. I" }, { "start": 2563.4, "end": 2565.48, "text": " Think they also know that they're gonna sell out this year" }, { "start": 2565.48, "end": 2569.82, "text": " Yeah, they've got a Titan Falls coming and that gamers will go to the platform and that it's a good gaming platform" }, { "start": 2569.82, "end": 2574.34, "text": " So I'm going to get it for Killer Instinct. It's nothing else. Right? So it's a nostalgic" }, { "start": 2575.24, "end": 2578.96, "text": " I'm saying I think I think they know that they don't need to even win that audience. Why bother?" }, { "start": 2578.96, "end": 2582.44, "text": " So we're gonna go to this other audience. I think it's pissing gamers off" }, { "start": 2582.44, "end": 2585.7200000000003, "text": " I think it's you think it's no, I think it's totally smart" }, { "start": 2587.36, "end": 2590.2200000000003, "text": " They need to be like coddled and won over and like told that they're loved" }, { "start": 2591.2000000000003, "end": 2594.44, "text": " Pissing them off but like but they're smart this go after the big audience" }, { "start": 2594.44, "end": 2595.08, "text": " They should do it" }, { "start": 2595.08, "end": 2597.56, "text": " But I don't know why they need to convince" }, { "start": 2598, "end": 2601.88, "text": " Grandma to plug in Xbox one into her cable box and then set up a connect to" }, { "start": 2602.8, "end": 2604.8, "text": " Scope that down" }, { "start": 2605.28, "end": 2607.28, "text": " Grandma keep losing the remote. She wants to go" }, { "start": 2607.28, "end": 2611.7200000000003, "text": " Xbox Wow Wow, that was racist against grandmothers. It's not" }, { "start": 2617.32, "end": 2619.32, "text": " Look here's the thing that here's the thing" }, { "start": 2620.1600000000003, "end": 2622.7200000000003, "text": " This is old-school first cast just enjoy talking over each other" }, { "start": 2622.7200000000003, "end": 2626.96, "text": " No, so here's the thing that is like myself that Sony Microsoft kill myself because" }, { "start": 2627.5600000000004, "end": 2629.96, "text": " Chris Chris Chris's granny inner granny" }, { "start": 2631.48, "end": 2634.0600000000004, "text": " Told to do something boom to these nuts" }, { "start": 2634.06, "end": 2637.9, "text": " If Microsoft learned one thing from last generations that like what they did over eight years" }, { "start": 2638.4, "end": 2641.2599999999998, "text": " Means what they did at beginning doesn't matter ps3 had no rumble" }, { "start": 2641.56, "end": 2644.64, "text": " Blu-ray did not matter as much it was still trying to fail between that a CD" }, { "start": 2644.64, "end": 2646.92, "text": " I'm saying what they're building they're gonna sell people" }, { "start": 2646.92, "end": 2652.7599999999998, "text": " No, it's going to grow this all this stuff all this its windows. It has Skype. It runs your TV" }, { "start": 2652.7599999999998, "end": 2658.7599999999998, "text": " All that stuff is great. These are great ideas and I'm I'm just a hundred percent convinced that" }, { "start": 2658.76, "end": 2663.88, "text": " people they're gonna use that TV stuff for a day and" }, { "start": 2665.2400000000002, "end": 2669.1600000000003, "text": " You know, it's just this is just the mechanics of IR blasting" }, { "start": 2669.1600000000003, "end": 2671.92, "text": " I'm just gonna lay it out there this it doesn't work" }, { "start": 2671.92, "end": 2676.44, "text": " Like there are places where you're gonna run into a wall where it can't do stuff and you gotta use your cable remote again" }, { "start": 2676.82, "end": 2680.28, "text": " Watch your DVR and that's it. That's the end of the end of the line" }, { "start": 2680.28, "end": 2685.6000000000004, "text": " I think their point is that they can make an additive experience and that you could put it in somebody's living room" }, { "start": 2685.6, "end": 2689.92, "text": " They use their cable box just like they do today. Nothing changes" }, { "start": 2690.68, "end": 2694.64, "text": " You just use your yeah, but you know what happens when you turn on your TV. You got to turn on your Xbox" }, { "start": 2695.7599999999998, "end": 2699.58, "text": " So you don't turn and people are just going to leave the Xbox on which is exactly" }, { "start": 2699.7999999999997, "end": 2702.08, "text": " You turn on your TV and showing you the Xbox screen" }, { "start": 2702.08, "end": 2706.2599999999998, "text": " You got to click over to you got to say watch TV. You got to open the app the TV app" }, { "start": 2706.2599999999998, "end": 2710.4, "text": " Like this stuff is there there's friction. This is my first world" }, { "start": 2711.7599999999998, "end": 2713.7599999999998, "text": " I'm saying these are problems" }, { "start": 2713.76, "end": 2716.0200000000004, "text": " Bangna problem the point being is I think I" }, { "start": 2716.96, "end": 2720.6800000000003, "text": " Think Microsoft knows that these are problems. I if I compared to any other" }, { "start": 2721.76, "end": 2727, "text": " Solution on the market my legitimate big question. This is a this is a different discussion, but" }, { "start": 2727.8, "end": 2729.8, "text": " Why didn't they use?" }, { "start": 2732.32, "end": 2736.7200000000003, "text": " Cable cable card. Oh because it's it's you don't want to do that. Nobody wants to do it" }, { "start": 2736.7200000000003, "end": 2741.88, "text": " That's even worse like that would have been way I've only ever seen one cable card device in my I mean I asked Mark Whitten" }, { "start": 2741.88, "end": 2745, "text": " It's in the P. I asked why didn't she use cable card? He's like that's stupid" }, { "start": 2745, "end": 2747.58, "text": " I asked Ben Smith who's it he's like we thought about it" }, { "start": 2747.58, "end": 2751.2000000000003, "text": " But then we can't you know how many customers direct TV has it's like 25 million" }, { "start": 2751.76, "end": 2754.8, "text": " What are you gonna do about those people the the cable card?" }, { "start": 2754.8, "end": 2759.12, "text": " I had a friend that got one of the new Tivo's that uses cable card in Philadelphia" }, { "start": 2759.12, "end": 2765.12, "text": " Yeah, he used to work for Comcast had contacts could see the building. Okay, very very select" }, { "start": 2766.32, "end": 2770.34, "text": " And it took him weeks of him complaining on Twitter. Oh, yeah" }, { "start": 2770.34, "end": 2773.6000000000004, "text": " It's a you're they're legally obligated to provide you a cable card" }, { "start": 2773.6000000000004, "end": 2780.7400000000002, "text": " You don't want to do you could not get anyone to even acknowledge that cable cards existed at Comcast" }, { "start": 2780.7400000000002, "end": 2783.7000000000003, "text": " Like it took him forever and he finally got up and running and he said it's great when it's running" }, { "start": 2783.7000000000003, "end": 2786.02, "text": " But anyway, no, no, I have I called it the best" }, { "start": 2787.86, "end": 2789.98, "text": " 35 million subscribers direct TV. What are you gonna do?" }, { "start": 2789.98, "end": 2795.46, "text": " But how are you gonna just how you gonna give this to the revolution starts just not with a cable card" }, { "start": 2795.46, "end": 2798.76, "text": " One cable card never work. It's just a dish network has like 30 million two" }, { "start": 2798.76, "end": 2804.28, "text": " Thanks. It's only 60 million people. Yeah, I mean it's not that no, you know, it's actually funny" }, { "start": 2804.28, "end": 2806, "text": " I mean this is these are the numbers right because you know" }, { "start": 2806, "end": 2811.4, "text": " How many subscribers 18 T has when Apple put out the iPhone and only work with 18 T a hundred million like you can?" }, { "start": 2812.32, "end": 2817.1200000000003, "text": " Know it is your technically. Yeah, right, but it's but it's crazy because those are" }, { "start": 2818.1600000000003, "end": 2821.2400000000002, "text": " You can't do with TV what you can do with a phone, right?" }, { "start": 2821.2400000000002, "end": 2826.5200000000004, "text": " You can't you can't immediately have a hundred million customers in all of America. You can only have little pockets" }, { "start": 2826.52, "end": 2831.46, "text": " But isn't the argument it's not about cable. It's about it's about cable. Never the ones we just never dealt with" }, { "start": 2832.04, "end": 2837.16, "text": " To get all of that cable. Yeah, right. So the the Xbox stuff is not gonna be useful to you" }, { "start": 2837.16, "end": 2839.7599999999998, "text": " No, it would be useful in the way that the 360 so for me personally" }, { "start": 2839.7599999999998, "end": 2843.8, "text": " I haven't had cable since the ps4 ps3 came out roughly right? Um" }, { "start": 2844.64, "end": 2851.32, "text": " I've used and in the funny thing to me about Microsoft's focus on TV is I've used my Xbox to replace it" }, { "start": 2851.36, "end": 2854.88, "text": " Yeah, right. I got Netflix. I got Hulu. No, this is a goal" }, { "start": 2854.88, "end": 2858.08, "text": " I think they want to make TV just another app for you" }, { "start": 2858.4, "end": 2864.04, "text": " But for most people TV is the only thing they do on their TV and the Xbox is the second thing that they do" }, { "start": 2864.04, "end": 2866.34, "text": " Yeah, I think they I mean at least in interviews" }, { "start": 2866.34, "end": 2871.36, "text": " I've done they've acknowledged that that we think gaming is so super important and we're in our bubble and we talk about gaming" }, { "start": 2871.48, "end": 2875.04, "text": " And all the hours people spend gaming and you look at the numbers and it's a yeah" }, { "start": 2877.88, "end": 2879.88, "text": " TV is where people spend their time" }, { "start": 2880.2000000000003, "end": 2884.7200000000003, "text": " So, you know they want the Xbox to get out of the way you watch TV use your remote and if you want to augment" }, { "start": 2884.72, "end": 2888, "text": " It Xbox pause Xbox, whatever. Anyway, um, I" }, { "start": 2888.64, "end": 2894.24, "text": " Think it's neat. I I for me the TV stuff doesn't mean anything. I don't have cable. I don't want to get cable" }, { "start": 2894.8799999999997, "end": 2901.16, "text": " what I think is neat is that a lot of people out there might justify a $500 purchase if they could bring it home hook it up and" }, { "start": 2902.4399999999996, "end": 2906.8199999999997, "text": " Convince their family like hey, you just say Xbox on the TV turns on you say" }, { "start": 2908.7599999999998, "end": 2912.8799999999997, "text": " I'll give you a thousand dollars if you convince my wife to say Xbox on ever in her life" }, { "start": 2912.88, "end": 2916.04, "text": " Wait, it's she'll split 500 with me. No, that's fun. No, she won't" }, { "start": 2916.44, "end": 2919.56, "text": " It's still not like her dignity is still cost more than $500" }, { "start": 2919.56, "end": 2922.76, "text": " Like I get it I get this this is a game everybody wants to play with you know" }, { "start": 2922.76, "end": 2924.76, "text": " They split the money because I keep making the bet" }, { "start": 2924.8, "end": 2927.76, "text": " She's not gonna do it. She's not gonna talk to the TV that way because it doesn't" }, { "start": 2928.92, "end": 2930.92, "text": " It was like I give her a lot more money" }, { "start": 2930.92, "end": 2935.8, "text": " And I eat the Delta just like a jerk I would take it" }, { "start": 2943.92, "end": 2950.92, "text": " No, look I just don't believe it like yeah until the voice stuff becomes totally conversational and totally works" }, { "start": 2951.2000000000003, "end": 2954.32, "text": " No one's gonna use it. I'll say this is my voice also" }, { "start": 2955.04, "end": 2957.4, "text": " Serious changed over time with software. Mm-hmm" }, { "start": 2957.4, "end": 2961.38, "text": " Yeah, no, look this here's my here's I'm landing and we should talk about these iPads" }, { "start": 2961.94, "end": 2963.94, "text": " Here's I'm landing on this and maybe you disagree" }, { "start": 2963.94, "end": 2966.88, "text": " I think if you want to buy a game console now, you should buy a ps4" }, { "start": 2966.88, "end": 2970.1800000000003, "text": " that's where I then we haven't we haven't reviewed the Xbox at a" }, { "start": 2970.5, "end": 2976.98, "text": " long time for if you want to buy potential mic drop if you want to buy potential at the end of our review feels like" }, { "start": 2976.98, "end": 2981.1800000000003, "text": " The end of our review we said I think the last line literally ps4 is" }, { "start": 2981.78, "end": 2986.58, "text": " Potential energy it's like all this possibility. Right? Just I there's nowhere to use it" }, { "start": 2986.58, "end": 2990.1, "text": " Yeah, you can't spend it. It's all pent up, but it's but it's all it's focused" }, { "start": 2990.1, "end": 2994.66, "text": " It is a focused price. It is a focused no, but it's focused possibility on video games" }, { "start": 2994.66, "end": 2994.8199999999997, "text": " Yes" }, { "start": 2994.8199999999997, "end": 2998.94, "text": " It's gonna be awesome at video games the Xbox one is right now as far as I can tell" }, { "start": 2999.1, "end": 3003.06, "text": " We've got to review the thing but as far as I can tell it's potential in a thousand" }, { "start": 3003.06, "end": 3007.9, "text": " It's the potential of having a computer under your TV. Here's what I don't know what they're gonna do with that" }, { "start": 3007.9, "end": 3009.9, "text": " You know when I was picking between these things" }, { "start": 3010.62, "end": 3014.1, "text": " PS for you bought a lot of cool Indies man. I gotta get that" }, { "start": 3014.1, "end": 3016.86, "text": " I'm not gonna get the Xbox because I don't have cable. I don't give a" }, { "start": 3017.7, "end": 3019.7, "text": " Quantum break and Titan fall. Yeah" }, { "start": 3024.94, "end": 3029.62, "text": " We've also the ps4 launch titles like are not great they're not but like in six months in a year" }, { "start": 3029.62, "end": 3032.2999999999997, "text": " Do we have any idea if it's gonna get better? I I think" }, { "start": 3033.22, "end": 3037.06, "text": " Like what does it look like in a year? I think Sony is way" }, { "start": 3037.58, "end": 3042.7, "text": " Super acutely cognizant of this failure that they made a gaming system that they talked about as a game" }, { "start": 3042.7, "end": 3048.02, "text": " Yeah, they launched without a lot of games. Oops. I think this isn't us making them aware of it" }, { "start": 3048.02, "end": 3050.58, "text": " Oh man, polygon reminded us like no they knew that" }, { "start": 3050.98, "end": 3054.18, "text": " I think at launch tonight" }, { "start": 3055.22, "end": 3059.4199999999996, "text": " Such a more night. They're gonna make announcements. You're gonna find out about what's coming out next year, right?" }, { "start": 3059.4199999999996, "end": 3063.18, "text": " They are gonna say look we understand that you guys want more stuff. Here's what's coming" }, { "start": 3063.18, "end": 3066.08, "text": " I think we're gonna hear a release date for infamous second son" }, { "start": 3066.08, "end": 3070.62, "text": " I think we're gonna hear an announcement of a new uncharted game or something new by naughty dog" }, { "start": 3070.62, "end": 3075.06, "text": " I think you're going to hear maybe as a guess" }, { "start": 3076.2999999999997, "end": 3080.42, "text": " Some of the ps3 exclusive or ps4 exclusive features of destiny, okay, which they are" }, { "start": 3081.06, "end": 3086.02, "text": " Co-marketing as their counter programming to Titanfall. It is another though. It's on Xbox also" }, { "start": 3087.42, "end": 3095, "text": " Okay, so so we know that co-marketing works some games that are co-marketed specifically sell better on that platform. They co-market at Batman Arkham Asylum" }, { "start": 3095.98, "end": 3098.54, "text": " With certain features. It's sold way better on PS" }, { "start": 3098.54, "end": 3101.98, "text": " Really? Yeah, so like that works. They're doing more of it" }, { "start": 3102.54, "end": 3104.06, "text": " and" }, { "start": 3104.06, "end": 3108.72, "text": " If you talked to I mean watch dogs was gonna be multi-platform, but people thought of it as a ps4 title. Yeah" }, { "start": 3109.5, "end": 3114.46, "text": " So they're gonna do that. I think we're gonna hear about some of that stuff tonight as a" }, { "start": 3115.22, "end": 3118.7, "text": " incentive to people who haven't purchased yet and as a reward and" }, { "start": 3120.82, "end": 3123.74, "text": " Encouragement for the people who have purchased it that might not be happy with the games" }, { "start": 3123.74, "end": 3128.2599999999998, "text": " but and also like it's they've got to do it now before the Xbox comes up because if you're changing your mind you change your" }, { "start": 3128.26, "end": 3132.34, "text": " Mind the next couple weeks and Microsoft we know it Microsoft Scott coming out. They've already shown some of it" }, { "start": 3132.34, "end": 3136.6000000000004, "text": " They talked about it and they've already put Titanfall with a giant pin on the map" }, { "start": 3136.6000000000004, "end": 3141.5400000000004, "text": " Right, and then they and in order to hammer that Titanfall one was always gonna be an Xbox" }, { "start": 3143, "end": 3150.7000000000003, "text": " PC exclusive in order to really hammer that in they bought the rights to the whole series like oh, okay. Yeah. Oh they did" }, { "start": 3150.7000000000003, "end": 3152.98, "text": " Yeah, it is not just it's not just the first one" }, { "start": 3152.98, "end": 3159.96, "text": " You will never they bought yeah, uh, yeah good business move. Goodbye. Yeah dump truck of money" }, { "start": 3160.58, "end": 3162.58, "text": " Hey" }, { "start": 3162.58, "end": 3164.22, "text": " so" }, { "start": 3164.22, "end": 3167.82, "text": " Sony needs to respond to that and they have not yet. I think we'll hear it" }, { "start": 3167.82, "end": 3172.86, "text": " I hope we hear it tonight and they're gonna it's 4k 3d ps4" }, { "start": 3174.02, "end": 3176.02, "text": " Glasses it plays two blue rays at once" }, { "start": 3176.98, "end": 3180.22, "text": " Check it out. I okay. I'm just saying look here. Here's" }, { "start": 3180.22, "end": 3184.7, "text": " I know we're gonna read your view. I'm sure your every is gonna be very beautiful 360 as well" }, { "start": 3185.14, "end": 3190.2999999999997, "text": " For the one they're the one Jesus, by the way, it's still terrible name. It's just a bad name the X-bone" }, { "start": 3191.54, "end": 3195.12, "text": " Expon is actually pretty good. I just don't know what they're gonna call the next one" }, { "start": 3203.4199999999996, "end": 3207.62, "text": " Most those guys like they've the Xbox team has been through like three generations of this thing" }, { "start": 3207.62, "end": 3210.94, "text": " So they're probably thinking ten years from now. It's somebody else's problem" }, { "start": 3212.74, "end": 3214.74, "text": " It's been like 40 years xbox" }, { "start": 3215.7, "end": 3221.2599999999998, "text": " This is like the last ten years of American politics like just borrow it screw the other guys will be dead" }, { "start": 3224.62, "end": 3230.94, "text": " Losing the Xbox zero, it's one more thing about the TV stuff. Yeah, everybody at Microsoft to talk to you as a TV" }, { "start": 3231.8599999999997, "end": 3236.3399999999997, "text": " Everybody they're always like I look I got a TV. I understand I understand how a cable card is" }, { "start": 3236.34, "end": 3239.3, "text": " I understand them, you know, it's like I got I got a TV" }, { "start": 3239.3, "end": 3242.58, "text": " Oh, and it's like, you know, why I have a TV because everybody's cable box sucks" }, { "start": 3243.1000000000004, "end": 3247.42, "text": " That's why because you are you're you're smart. You're you're in the know, right?" }, { "start": 3247.42, "end": 3252.1000000000004, "text": " You're like you're nerds and you have like the money and wherewithal to like get it to purchase a TV" }, { "start": 3252.1000000000004, "end": 3258.1800000000003, "text": " Oh deal with cable card and like make it happen because the other option you have is bad and you made a market decision" }, { "start": 3258.54, "end": 3262.5, "text": " Why did why does your TV solution require everybody else to have this bad cable?" }, { "start": 3262.5, "end": 3270.34, "text": " I'll say it's about Tiva we gave my old Tivo from 2000 my series 2 to my father-in-law that thing it still runs" }, { "start": 3270.66, "end": 3274.98, "text": " It was acting real weird. I took it apart. The fan was dead. I replaced the fans. It's great. Yeah" }, { "start": 3278.26, "end": 3284.94, "text": " Tivo they're just doing stuff. It's cranking. Yeah, like they make their money like licensing like their DVR patent everybody else" }, { "start": 3284.94, "end": 3289.14, "text": " Yeah, or I imagine like the TV offices being like hey, do we get our check today?" }, { "start": 3289.14, "end": 3294.18, "text": " So you think we should make a new Tivo or that we got the check?" }, { "start": 3294.18, "end": 3301.18, "text": " I'm going home like I don't know what they do most of the time like it's just a giant room with like one legal secretary" }, { "start": 3301.18, "end": 3302.18, "text": " Who's like?" }, { "start": 3302.18, "end": 3308.98, "text": " Hey, the engineers committing they didn't the check the check came though. Okay, I'm going like I don't know what they do all day" }, { "start": 3308.98, "end": 3311.2599999999998, "text": " They make one product every five years" }, { "start": 3312.3399999999997, "end": 3315.94, "text": " Tivo they finally got there Tivo Tivo. There's their swing" }, { "start": 3315.94, "end": 3317.94, "text": " All right, so what about the other stuff on here?" }, { "start": 3317.94, "end": 3318.44, "text": " Bloop" }, { "start": 3318.94, "end": 3321.38, "text": " All right. Bloop is good. Bloop. iPads?" }, { "start": 3322.1, "end": 3325.02, "text": " It's it's well, it's just the iPad mini. We already talked about that here." }, { "start": 3325.02, "end": 3328.3, "text": " I'm gonna review the iPad mini for you. Did you guys already do a review?" }, { "start": 3328.3, "end": 3333.58, "text": " We did. You can delete that. I would say white and yellow is a nice combo for that thing." }, { "start": 3333.58, "end": 3338.14, "text": " Here's the thing about the iPad mini. It's very fresh. The new iPad mini. In summary. It looks like Easter." }, { "start": 3338.14, "end": 3342.94, "text": " It's like the old iPad mini that everyone said that's a cool iPad. That's actually the form factor" }, { "start": 3342.94, "end": 3347.38, "text": " I always wanted for an iPad, but I'm not gonna buy it until it's got a retina display. Yeah, right" }, { "start": 3347.38, "end": 3351.3, "text": " That's what everyone on earth said. And I'm also surprised they did this year. For some reason I thought there's gonna be another year." }, { "start": 3351.3, "end": 3356.78, "text": " This is the thrust of David's review. I want this super super bad. You want it? You're buying one. Oh, yeah" }, { "start": 3356.78, "end": 3361.46, "text": " Yeah, I have an iPad 3 retina display. I use an iPad mini. I was like, that's the form factor I want." }, { "start": 3361.46, "end": 3366.82, "text": " I also have an iPad 3 with retina. It's a beast. It's a big guy. I use this. It's hot." }, { "start": 3366.82, "end": 3370.66, "text": " When the first mini came out and I was like, this is exactly what I want. Let me just look at it." }, { "start": 3370.66, "end": 3382.66, "text": " Oh god, my eyes. It's so horrible. The iPad 3, I mean, it's just fun. I've used, I've reviewed the air and I've played with the mini and now I go home and I still have the iPad 3 because I haven't bought one yet." }, { "start": 3382.66, "end": 3392.66, "text": " I haven't bought a new one yet. And it's like, you know in the 80s when Russia would make copies of things the United States had and they were like steam powered and enormous." }, { "start": 3392.66, "end": 3402.66, "text": " That's the iPad 3. It's like super hot. I'm like sweating when I use it. I'm like, oh the Yankees. I showed them. It's awful." }, { "start": 3402.66, "end": 3408.66, "text": " You read books on your iPad and it's tired. Yeah, it's a big guy. Big boy." }, { "start": 3408.66, "end": 3425.66, "text": " But that one, so that, by the way, here's your problem. My sense of danger with the iPad mini is it's the iPad 3 again. It's a little bit thicker. It's a little bit heavier. It's smaller. It might get, it gets hot." }, { "start": 3425.66, "end": 3431.66, "text": " Right. He knows the passcode. I've been down this road. Does the iPad mini get hot? I've fallen in love with it. It's a little hot." }, { "start": 3431.66, "end": 3439.66, "text": " David said his hands sweat when he was using it. But then David, what was he watching? Notoriously sweaty hands. Sweaty hands." }, { "start": 3439.66, "end": 3445.66, "text": " SHP. Poor David. He wasn't here to defend himself and I'm taking advantage of it. David has sweaty hands." }, { "start": 3445.66, "end": 3450.66, "text": " It's his fault. He didn't want to be here. So that's your whole review? So you're a little iPad guy." }, { "start": 3450.66, "end": 3457.66, "text": " I've never had a small tablet before, but I use my iPad all the time. I got rid of my Kindle because I didn't want to carry around two devices." }, { "start": 3457.66, "end": 3464.66, "text": " And I don't think the iPad 3 that I use is perfect for the Kindle replacement, but it's good enough because I'm not carrying around two." }, { "start": 3464.66, "end": 3471.66, "text": " This feels to me like really good games on this look great. I also kind of want to get rid of my, we'll talk about this with the next segment." }, { "start": 3471.66, "end": 3480.66, "text": " I have an iPhone 5. You hate the iPhone 5. It is the worst piece of consumer electronics I've ever purchased in my life." }, { "start": 3480.66, "end": 3489.66, "text": " And this is coming from a guy who kind of wants to buy a 3DO just to have for like archival purposes. My iPhone 5 right now, I'm not even kidding, it lasts an hour." }, { "start": 3489.66, "end": 3500.66, "text": " And Apple won't fix it. The back case bent open and they're like, user failure. What did I do? Did I put in a vice? Like it's in my pocket." }, { "start": 3500.66, "end": 3508.66, "text": " And then on top of that, to make it worse, this is my fault. The other two are their fault. I dropped it just the other day and it was like, I've dropped it a million times." }, { "start": 3508.66, "end": 3521.66, "text": " I dropped it like the smallest amount on the corner. Can you see this? It's broken from the corner. Anyway, that's fine. That's my fault." }, { "start": 3521.66, "end": 3526.66, "text": " I hate my phone. I want to get a new phone, but I want to keep my iPad for games." }, { "start": 3526.66, "end": 3528.66, "text": " What's your hot iPad game right now?" }, { "start": 3528.66, "end": 3538.66, "text": " Oh man. Have you played Rim Capsule? No, that sounds... Oh man, Rim Capsule. I'm not going to say it at all." }, { "start": 3538.66, "end": 3550.66, "text": " It's like an RTS. It's really good. I think FTL just got announced for iOS. It did. Guys, buy FTL. Buy it on your phone right now. What is it?" }, { "start": 3550.66, "end": 3561.66, "text": " FTL is a really good like rogue-like space sim strategy game. I think I described it okay." }, { "start": 3561.66, "end": 3569.66, "text": " Where you basically have to like do these missions and you go through and it changes every time. It's really good. It's a great fit for the iPad." }, { "start": 3569.66, "end": 3577.66, "text": " I've always enjoyed it. I have a mini and the only thing I like doing it I'm playing games. I don't like playing games on the big iPad, but the mini is like it's a good size for games." }, { "start": 3577.66, "end": 3589.66, "text": " I think the iPad is a little too big. I'm a big iPad dude. One of the things about getting the mini and kind of keeping my iPad ecosystem is I've made a lot of investments between my phone and my iPad on iOS." }, { "start": 3589.66, "end": 3595.66, "text": " I need to keep that. I think the mini is a great platform to continue that on and then I can switch my phone to another. That's pretty smart." }, { "start": 3595.66, "end": 3604.66, "text": " Like a brand new Symbian phone. The Jolla. Wow. Get the Jolla. Firefox OS. I want this and I can't justify it at all. Why not?" }, { "start": 3604.66, "end": 3612.66, "text": " I just got the mini. I just got the new Nexus 7 and I got the new 5. The 5S and like this seems enough. This is a big enough screen for like most of the games." }, { "start": 3612.66, "end": 3619.66, "text": " You're doing the opposite of me. I'm doing the opposite. I actually thought I was going to be you. I thought I was going to be you and then I got this because I just could not wait any longer." }, { "start": 3619.66, "end": 3627.66, "text": " Here's the thing about the 5S. I wanted to get the term iPhone 5 in it so it's off the table for me. I don't want to spend money on it." }, { "start": 3627.66, "end": 3635.66, "text": " And then I feel like the bigger screen is better for gaming. Android is not as good as the gaming platform is iOS." }, { "start": 3635.66, "end": 3642.66, "text": " Ross, you picked backwards. Android for work. Here's the reason I picked this. iPad for play. I wanted a camera." }, { "start": 3642.66, "end": 3646.66, "text": " That's the worst Best Buy mobile tagline of all time. I'm never going to do this." }, { "start": 3646.66, "end": 3650.66, "text": " So this is the other discussion and you make a good point." }, { "start": 3650.66, "end": 3659.66, "text": " We have a Moto G here which is $179 off contract. But you do have to be like a Brazilian to purchase one." }, { "start": 3659.66, "end": 3664.66, "text": " It's coming to the US though. Same price. Sure. They're all coming to the US." }, { "start": 3664.66, "end": 3668.66, "text": " Legally, through the right channels. It's a problem with our country today, am I right?" }, { "start": 3668.66, "end": 3675.66, "text": " Brazilians coming to America. Guys, technically they're in South America. It's still America." }, { "start": 3675.66, "end": 3683.66, "text": " This doesn't feel too bad. So here's the thing about Android phones for me. I was refreshing The Verge 18 times a day because it's actually in my contract." }, { "start": 3683.66, "end": 3691.66, "text": " But also because the Nexus 5, that slow messed up reveal." }, { "start": 3691.66, "end": 3697.66, "text": " Can I say something to the people of The Verge's America?" }, { "start": 3697.66, "end": 3701.66, "text": " The Verge in America? Virgin America?" }, { "start": 3701.66, "end": 3707.66, "text": " Can I say something to the people of Virgin America? Your planes are delightful. I appreciate the free Wi-Fi." }, { "start": 3707.66, "end": 3712.66, "text": " Just stop calling those seats leather because you and I both know they're not leather." }, { "start": 3712.66, "end": 3721.66, "text": " No. I made one mistake about the Nexus 5. This is true. I got a white one. The white one feels like junk." }, { "start": 3721.66, "end": 3727.66, "text": " The black one is finished in a beautiful soft touch finish. Totally changes the nature of the device." }, { "start": 3727.66, "end": 3733.66, "text": " I hadn't played with the black one in the last show. The black one is far nicer." }, { "start": 3733.66, "end": 3737.66, "text": " I have all my complaints from A and the camera still whatever the hell it is." }, { "start": 3737.66, "end": 3745.66, "text": " But the hardware is nicer. It feels less flimsy and fragile. The white one is like punishment for colonialism." }, { "start": 3745.66, "end": 3753.66, "text": " It's like reverse racism. It's that bad. It's amazing. It's just awful. I'm just saying. I was wrong. I made a mistake." }, { "start": 3753.66, "end": 3758.66, "text": " I only played with one of them. There's two of them. The black one is very nice. This is the Nexus 5." }, { "start": 3758.66, "end": 3764.66, "text": " The white one is awful. First the HTC One. I was like, man, I got to get that phone. That's a nice phone." }, { "start": 3764.66, "end": 3771.66, "text": " Google Play Edition. Yum. It's a little expensive off contract. I've got a contract and I'm not out of it yet." }, { "start": 3771.66, "end": 3776.66, "text": " Have I mentioned the iPhone 5? How much I dislike it? Really?" }, { "start": 3776.66, "end": 3786.66, "text": " The Moto G Prime is a bad camera too. The Moto X came out. I was like, oh, that's tasty. It looks nice." }, { "start": 3786.66, "end": 3789.66, "text": " Really? That's how you talk about phones? Yeah." }, { "start": 3789.66, "end": 3793.66, "text": " This sexy phone feels good in the hand. Just going to say that before you start criticizing." }, { "start": 3793.66, "end": 3799.66, "text": " Always, always. You know what we call it? Good hand feel. Good hand feel." }, { "start": 3799.66, "end": 3806.66, "text": " I looked at the Moto X and it was really nice. Bad camera. So I was like, Nexus, Nexus 5. Google's, this is their flagship phone." }, { "start": 3806.66, "end": 3812.66, "text": " They're not going to mess this up again. It's going to be cheap off contract. It's going to be right." }, { "start": 3812.66, "end": 3817.66, "text": " It's cheapish. Hey, look, I would take the punch on it. The camera's bad again." }, { "start": 3817.66, "end": 3824.66, "text": " The camera's miserable. I can get a Windows phone with a good camera. What is going on that nobody's figured out how to make a good camera?" }, { "start": 3824.66, "end": 3830.66, "text": " Galaxy S4. Does that have a good camera? It's the best you're going to get. For Android at least." }, { "start": 3830.66, "end": 3837.66, "text": " How much is it off contract? $700. That's a cool amount of money. Look, here's the idea. Go into Central Park at night." }, { "start": 3837.66, "end": 3843.66, "text": " With a gun. With a gun. Okay, well this is like a turn I did not expect. I'm going to take notes." }, { "start": 3843.66, "end": 3848.66, "text": " Every phone is free if you steal it. Cut the video real quick and continue telling me the details." }, { "start": 3848.66, "end": 3852.66, "text": " Then use the gun. I don't know how you use the gun. Is this customizable?" }, { "start": 3852.66, "end": 3858.66, "text": " So actually this is the one thing about this phone. This is like an Xbox 360. Guys, we have wood patterns." }, { "start": 3858.66, "end": 3862.66, "text": " No, they do have, well they don't have the wood ones yet. But they will." }, { "start": 3862.66, "end": 3867.66, "text": " Do you remember the wood? You can just call this the naked skin. There was a plastic wood pattern one." }, { "start": 3867.66, "end": 3870.66, "text": " What if you just rocked that and you were just like whatever and it was cool." }, { "start": 3870.66, "end": 3876.66, "text": " There was the wood patterned basement paneling themed Xbox 360 because that's a good look for gamers." }, { "start": 3876.66, "end": 3882.66, "text": " I kind of want this phone. Why is it so cheap? What's the catch?" }, { "start": 3882.66, "end": 3887.66, "text": " It's cheap. That's the catch. They made it with a cheaper lower end processor." }, { "start": 3887.66, "end": 3892.66, "text": " Did a different screen. Motorola is really good. The screen is less stuff." }, { "start": 3892.66, "end": 3895.66, "text": " It doesn't have any of the features of the X. It doesn't have the active notifications." }, { "start": 3895.66, "end": 3898.66, "text": " That's the disappointing part for me. But I understand why it doesn't." }, { "start": 3898.66, "end": 3902.66, "text": " Look, this is Motorola's new game. They're going to make cheaper phones than everybody else." }, { "start": 3902.66, "end": 3906.66, "text": " Which is cool. I applaud them for doing it. I just would rather have a Moto X." }, { "start": 3906.66, "end": 3910.66, "text": " Here are the things that does make it awesome if you're willing to have a slower processor and all that." }, { "start": 3910.66, "end": 3914.66, "text": " It is Android 4.3. It will get 4.4 in just a few weeks." }, { "start": 3914.66, "end": 3918.66, "text": " This is the flagship for the low end KitKat phone. It's cool." }, { "start": 3918.66, "end": 3922.66, "text": " It will have more stuff to do. It's a little bit heavier and a little bit thicker than the X." }, { "start": 3922.66, "end": 3924.66, "text": " This is acceptable though." }, { "start": 3924.66, "end": 3929.66, "text": " By the way, you should never say this is acceptable. This is acceptable." }, { "start": 3929.66, "end": 3933.66, "text": " It was more essential than like... I'm going to compare acceptable to my phone." }, { "start": 3933.66, "end": 3937.66, "text": " My phone dies... Can we just do an hour of Chris Grant hates the iPhone 5?" }, { "start": 3937.66, "end": 3942.66, "text": " My phone dies at 30%, which is apparently normal." }, { "start": 3942.66, "end": 3947.66, "text": " It was dead by 10 o'clock this morning. I unplugged it at 9. Cool." }, { "start": 3947.66, "end": 3949.66, "text": " I hate it so much." }, { "start": 3949.66, "end": 3952.66, "text": " It is funny that you have bent it by keeping it in your pocket." }, { "start": 3952.66, "end": 3955.66, "text": " I took it to the Apple store. It was happening at GDC." }, { "start": 3955.66, "end": 3959.66, "text": " The guy literally said, you didn't have this in your pocket, did you?" }, { "start": 3959.66, "end": 3961.66, "text": " True story." }, { "start": 3961.66, "end": 3963.66, "text": " True story." }, { "start": 3963.66, "end": 3967.66, "text": " You're a tall man. A lot of different leverages going on in them jeans." }, { "start": 3967.66, "end": 3970.66, "text": " What's going on in them jeans?" }, { "start": 3970.66, "end": 3973.66, "text": " You got bones no one else has. These six foot below people." }, { "start": 3973.66, "end": 3975.66, "text": " You got big bones no one else has?" }, { "start": 3975.66, "end": 3977.66, "text": " Worst pickup line in history." }, { "start": 3977.66, "end": 3979.66, "text": " I like your jeans. Those are some tight jeans." }, { "start": 3979.66, "end": 3981.66, "text": " You got bones no one else has." }, { "start": 3981.66, "end": 3984.66, "text": " Are your jeans really tighter than an iPhone 5 in your pocket?" }, { "start": 3984.66, "end": 3987.66, "text": " Seriously, it's an iPhone 5. You probably bent it. That's user error." }, { "start": 3987.66, "end": 3990.66, "text": " The other thing, and sorry, Chris Waltz from The Verge actually just let me know," }, { "start": 3990.66, "end": 3992.66, "text": " there's no LTE on this." }, { "start": 3992.66, "end": 3994.66, "text": " What? Are you kidding me?" }, { "start": 3994.66, "end": 3996.66, "text": " Nope. Not going to do it. Sorry." }, { "start": 3996.66, "end": 3998.66, "text": " That should have been in our headline." }, { "start": 3998.66, "end": 4000.66, "text": " Wait, that's why it's so cheap?" }, { "start": 4000.66, "end": 4002.66, "text": " That's the answer." }, { "start": 4002.66, "end": 4004.66, "text": " I can make a phone for $150 with no LTE in it." }, { "start": 4004.66, "end": 4006.66, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4006.66, "end": 4008.66, "text": " Come on." }, { "start": 4008.66, "end": 4010.66, "text": " What are we doing? Why is that even on this show?" }, { "start": 4010.66, "end": 4013.66, "text": " I'm so sorry for the past 30 minutes we've been talking." }, { "start": 4013.66, "end": 4015.66, "text": " Are you kidding me?" }, { "start": 4015.66, "end": 4017.66, "text": " What?" }, { "start": 4017.66, "end": 4019.66, "text": " What are we doing?" }, { "start": 4019.66, "end": 4021.66, "text": " The Nexus 4 was a highly reviewed phone." }, { "start": 4021.66, "end": 4023.66, "text": " It was a highly reviewed mistake." }, { "start": 4023.66, "end": 4025.66, "text": " Sorry, what are you going to do? You can't do HT video on this." }, { "start": 4025.66, "end": 4027.66, "text": " I'm still dealing with this fallout from Josh in the Nexus 4." }, { "start": 4027.66, "end": 4029.66, "text": " And the fact that he was like," }, { "start": 4029.66, "end": 4031.66, "text": " to this day, is like, I mean, it's an LTE phone." }, { "start": 4031.66, "end": 4033.66, "text": " Of course it costs $700." }, { "start": 4033.66, "end": 4035.66, "text": " It's table stakes." }, { "start": 4035.66, "end": 4037.66, "text": " I'm with you." }, { "start": 4037.66, "end": 4039.66, "text": " No LTE, no game." }, { "start": 4039.66, "end": 4041.66, "text": " Huh?" }, { "start": 4041.66, "end": 4043.66, "text": " It should be in the headline." }, { "start": 4043.66, "end": 4045.66, "text": " Dan Seifert wrote that post." }, { "start": 4045.66, "end": 4047.66, "text": " Dan Seifert, come down here with your laptop right away." }, { "start": 4047.66, "end": 4049.66, "text": " He's in upstate New York." }, { "start": 4049.66, "end": 4051.66, "text": " I thought he was upstairs." }, { "start": 4051.66, "end": 4053.66, "text": " Dan Seifert, get on a train." }, { "start": 4053.66, "end": 4055.66, "text": " Get on a YoBus. Come down here right now." }, { "start": 4055.66, "end": 4057.66, "text": " Are you kidding me?" }, { "start": 4057.66, "end": 4059.66, "text": " You just..." }, { "start": 4059.66, "end": 4061.66, "text": " I just found that because we didn't say Motorola" }, { "start": 4061.66, "end": 4063.66, "text": " makes mistake for low-end phones." }, { "start": 4063.66, "end": 4065.66, "text": " Motorola insults Brazil." }, { "start": 4065.66, "end": 4067.66, "text": " That should have been our headline." }, { "start": 4067.66, "end": 4069.66, "text": " How about this?" }, { "start": 4069.66, "end": 4073.66, "text": " Motorola sacrifices any usable internet speed for cheap phone." }, { "start": 4073.66, "end": 4075.66, "text": " That's a good headline." }, { "start": 4075.66, "end": 4077.66, "text": " It shouldn't even be that expensive." }, { "start": 4077.66, "end": 4079.66, "text": " It's all Qualcomm can do." }, { "start": 4079.66, "end": 4081.66, "text": " Just think of it as an iPod Touch for Android." }, { "start": 4081.66, "end": 4083.66, "text": " I don't want that." }, { "start": 4083.66, "end": 4085.66, "text": " Why do people buy iPod Touches?" }, { "start": 4085.66, "end": 4087.66, "text": " Because of all the great apps." }, { "start": 4087.66, "end": 4089.66, "text": " No one has ever said I want to get Android" }, { "start": 4089.66, "end": 4091.66, "text": " because of all the great games I can play." }, { "start": 4091.66, "end": 4093.66, "text": " It's true." }, { "start": 4093.66, "end": 4095.66, "text": " I can't defend this anymore." }, { "start": 4095.66, "end": 4097.66, "text": " Chris, you should just buy an iPad mini with LTE" }, { "start": 4097.66, "end": 4099.66, "text": " and just run Skype." }, { "start": 4099.66, "end": 4101.66, "text": " Just use Skype the whole time." }, { "start": 4101.66, "end": 4103.66, "text": " I'm not far off from it, man." }, { "start": 4103.66, "end": 4105.66, "text": " I want that iPad mini so bad." }, { "start": 4105.66, "end": 4107.66, "text": " Here's the other thing." }, { "start": 4107.66, "end": 4109.66, "text": " My iPad 3 is old. I've used it a lot." }, { "start": 4109.66, "end": 4111.66, "text": " The battery lasts 17 days." }, { "start": 4111.66, "end": 4113.66, "text": " I can stream video for 17 days." }, { "start": 4113.66, "end": 4115.66, "text": " I turn this thing on and it blows up in my hand." }, { "start": 4115.66, "end": 4117.66, "text": " Can we just do an hour of you hating the iPhone 5?" }, { "start": 4119.66, "end": 4121.66, "text": " The point being is like," }, { "start": 4121.66, "end": 4123.66, "text": " the iPad is so awesome." }, { "start": 4123.66, "end": 4125.66, "text": " I just want that phone." }, { "start": 4125.66, "end": 4127.66, "text": " iOS 7 on the iPad is still like," }, { "start": 4127.66, "end": 4129.66, "text": " what the hell?" }, { "start": 4129.66, "end": 4131.66, "text": " Do you have iOS 7 on your iPad?" }, { "start": 4131.66, "end": 4133.66, "text": " Particularly on the iPad 3," }, { "start": 4133.66, "end": 4135.66, "text": " that's when the real Soviet made nature" }, { "start": 4135.66, "end": 4137.66, "text": " of the device comes through." }, { "start": 4137.66, "end": 4139.66, "text": " It's like," }, { "start": 4139.66, "end": 4141.66, "text": " there's steam coming out of the vents." }, { "start": 4143.66, "end": 4145.66, "text": " On the mini, when you load up," }, { "start": 4145.66, "end": 4147.66, "text": " do we have this on video?" }, { "start": 4147.66, "end": 4149.66, "text": " There's little things you can do" }, { "start": 4149.66, "end": 4151.66, "text": " all over the mini, and actually the iPad Air" }, { "start": 4151.66, "end": 4155.66, "text": " has the same processor where you can make it stutter." }, { "start": 4155.66, "end": 4157.66, "text": " What's the..." }, { "start": 4157.66, "end": 4159.66, "text": " We need dad to unlock you." }, { "start": 4159.66, "end": 4161.66, "text": " Here you go, Sarah." }, { "start": 4161.66, "end": 4163.66, "text": " This is really..." }, { "start": 4163.66, "end": 4165.66, "text": " Billy, are you going to come point a camera at this thing?" }, { "start": 4167.66, "end": 4169.66, "text": " I was expecting you to use the closer camera." }, { "start": 4169.66, "end": 4171.66, "text": " I'm going to get really far away and zoom in." }, { "start": 4173.66, "end": 4175.66, "text": " That's my favorite." }, { "start": 4175.66, "end": 4177.66, "text": " He's like on point." }, { "start": 4177.66, "end": 4179.66, "text": " Billy Disney, ladies and gentlemen." }, { "start": 4179.66, "end": 4181.66, "text": " By that, I mean that one camera." }, { "start": 4181.66, "end": 4183.66, "text": " This is really simple." }, { "start": 4183.66, "end": 4185.66, "text": " It's the dumbest thing here." }, { "start": 4185.66, "end": 4187.66, "text": " I've got it. I'm just going to open Spotlight." }, { "start": 4187.66, "end": 4189.66, "text": " It stutters every time." }, { "start": 4189.66, "end": 4191.66, "text": " Mine does too." }, { "start": 4191.66, "end": 4193.66, "text": " When you push this button," }, { "start": 4193.66, "end": 4195.66, "text": " if you have a lot of apps open," }, { "start": 4195.66, "end": 4197.66, "text": " switching the keyboard from the letters to the numbers" }, { "start": 4197.66, "end": 4199.66, "text": " freezes." }, { "start": 4199.66, "end": 4201.66, "text": " When you do the..." }, { "start": 4203.66, "end": 4205.66, "text": " Also, carefully, we're going to David's accounts before..." }, { "start": 4205.66, "end": 4207.66, "text": " No, I'm just going to open Keynote." }, { "start": 4207.66, "end": 4209.66, "text": " I'm just going to open Snapchat." }, { "start": 4209.66, "end": 4211.66, "text": " When you do this five finger pinch," }, { "start": 4211.66, "end": 4213.66, "text": " this is super stuttering." }, { "start": 4213.66, "end": 4215.66, "text": " It's just like those three things. That's how I use an iPad." }, { "start": 4217.66, "end": 4219.66, "text": " Did we show this Spotlight?" }, { "start": 4219.66, "end": 4221.66, "text": " Does this do the Spotlight ghost?" }, { "start": 4221.66, "end": 4223.66, "text": " When you do..." }, { "start": 4223.66, "end": 4225.66, "text": " What are you doing?" }, { "start": 4225.66, "end": 4227.66, "text": " Here." }, { "start": 4227.66, "end": 4229.66, "text": " I'll do it again." }, { "start": 4229.66, "end": 4231.66, "text": " Here, I'm going to try to open Keynote" }, { "start": 4231.66, "end": 4233.66, "text": " out of Spotlight." }, { "start": 4233.66, "end": 4235.66, "text": " It's just going to..." }, { "start": 4235.66, "end": 4237.66, "text": " Somebody tweeted." }, { "start": 4237.66, "end": 4239.66, "text": " When you do it on the 5S, it shows you the letters ghosting." }, { "start": 4239.66, "end": 4241.66, "text": " These are just tiny little things" }, { "start": 4241.66, "end": 4243.66, "text": " about iOS 7 that drive me crazy." }, { "start": 4243.66, "end": 4245.66, "text": " They're magnified" }, { "start": 4245.66, "end": 4247.66, "text": " because they're physically bigger" }, { "start": 4247.66, "end": 4249.66, "text": " on the iPads." }, { "start": 4249.66, "end": 4251.66, "text": " They stand out to me." }, { "start": 4251.66, "end": 4253.66, "text": " Fair enough." }, { "start": 4253.66, "end": 4255.66, "text": " I launch every app from Spotlight, so that little bit of stutter" }, { "start": 4255.66, "end": 4257.66, "text": " when you pull it down, it's like waiting." }, { "start": 4257.66, "end": 4259.66, "text": " Again, we're speaking relatively," }, { "start": 4259.66, "end": 4261.66, "text": " because if this is a gaming machine, you're comparing it to the PS4," }, { "start": 4261.66, "end": 4263.66, "text": " and dear God, I can get to a game." }, { "start": 4263.66, "end": 4265.66, "text": " Neither one of the new consoles," }, { "start": 4265.66, "end": 4267.66, "text": " as far as they built Windows PCs," }, { "start": 4267.66, "end": 4269.66, "text": " they're slow Windows PCs." }, { "start": 4269.66, "end": 4271.66, "text": " Somebody tweeted, I should rectify." }, { "start": 4271.66, "end": 4273.66, "text": " Before I said Microsoft bought future rights to Titanfall," }, { "start": 4273.66, "end": 4275.66, "text": " that apparently is not true." }, { "start": 4275.66, "end": 4277.66, "text": " At least I don't have any non-published information." }, { "start": 4277.66, "end": 4279.66, "text": " They bought the future rights" }, { "start": 4279.66, "end": 4281.66, "text": " to the first Titanfall on other platforms." }, { "start": 4281.66, "end": 4283.66, "text": " I heard that" }, { "start": 4283.66, "end": 4285.66, "text": " Sony could get a Titanfall 2," }, { "start": 4285.66, "end": 4287.66, "text": " or whatever you want to call that." }, { "start": 4287.66, "end": 4289.66, "text": " I guess that's true, but even that..." }, { "start": 4289.66, "end": 4291.66, "text": " They've been pretty clear that the first game was an Xbox-only game," }, { "start": 4291.66, "end": 4293.66, "text": " so if the deal seems weird," }, { "start": 4293.66, "end": 4295.66, "text": " then why would you buy the..." }, { "start": 4295.66, "end": 4297.66, "text": " Either way, NeoGaf is..." }, { "start": 4297.66, "end": 4299.66, "text": " NeoGaf is a little on edge this week." }, { "start": 4299.66, "end": 4301.66, "text": " NeoGaf is on it." }, { "start": 4301.66, "end": 4303.66, "text": " They're on edge this week. Those guys are like..." }, { "start": 4303.66, "end": 4305.66, "text": " This is the biggest moment they've ever had." }, { "start": 4305.66, "end": 4307.66, "text": " It's true." }, { "start": 4307.66, "end": 4309.66, "text": " It's exciting." }, { "start": 4309.66, "end": 4311.66, "text": " We've got to wrap this up. Let me ask one question." }, { "start": 4311.66, "end": 4313.66, "text": " It was a question I wanted to ask at the start." }, { "start": 4313.66, "end": 4315.66, "text": " Why are they planning these for 10 years?" }, { "start": 4315.66, "end": 4317.66, "text": " Why not two years?" }, { "start": 4317.66, "end": 4319.66, "text": " They've not seen what's going on here?" }, { "start": 4319.66, "end": 4321.66, "text": " That's a good question." }, { "start": 4321.66, "end": 4323.66, "text": " I don't know if..." }, { "start": 4323.66, "end": 4325.66, "text": " Apple is putting out a new box. Roku puts out a new box every 20 minutes." }, { "start": 4325.66, "end": 4327.66, "text": " I saw eight of them." }, { "start": 4327.66, "end": 4329.66, "text": " Here's the thing." }, { "start": 4329.66, "end": 4331.66, "text": " Why can't they say in three or four years' time," }, { "start": 4331.66, "end": 4333.66, "text": " it's PS4 Plus?" }, { "start": 4333.66, "end": 4335.66, "text": " It's got a better, faster processor." }, { "start": 4335.66, "end": 4337.66, "text": " Now that it's X86, it's much easier for them to do that." }, { "start": 4337.66, "end": 4339.66, "text": " I just don't understand." }, { "start": 4339.66, "end": 4341.66, "text": " If they can retain backwards compatibility" }, { "start": 4341.66, "end": 4343.66, "text": " and move things forward..." }, { "start": 4343.66, "end": 4345.66, "text": " They would have to sell enough" }, { "start": 4345.66, "end": 4347.66, "text": " and make it worth the investment enough." }, { "start": 4347.66, "end": 4349.66, "text": " Speaking of Titanfall," }, { "start": 4349.66, "end": 4351.66, "text": " the reason it makes sense," }, { "start": 4351.66, "end": 4353.66, "text": " and the reason it would be so expensive" }, { "start": 4353.66, "end": 4357.66, "text": " for Microsoft to buy all rights of Titanfall forever," }, { "start": 4357.66, "end": 4361.66, "text": " would be that you have to sell so many units." }, { "start": 4361.66, "end": 4365.66, "text": " The reason Bungie wanted to leave Microsoft" }, { "start": 4365.66, "end": 4367.66, "text": " to make multi-platform games," }, { "start": 4367.66, "end": 4369.66, "text": " the reason Destiny is multi-platform," }, { "start": 4369.66, "end": 4371.66, "text": " is because they're looking at the success of Call of Duty." }, { "start": 4371.66, "end": 4373.66, "text": " Halo is so good, and Call of Duty is just outselling it like crazy." }, { "start": 4373.66, "end": 4375.66, "text": " Because they have all these different platforms." }, { "start": 4375.66, "end": 4377.66, "text": " You need install base." }, { "start": 4377.66, "end": 4381.66, "text": " It's the same reason that a lot of iOS devs" }, { "start": 4381.66, "end": 4385.66, "text": " aren't specifically targeting the new phones." }, { "start": 4385.66, "end": 4387.66, "text": " They'll target everything." }, { "start": 4387.66, "end": 4389.66, "text": " Because they don't want to limit their audience to just that." }, { "start": 4389.66, "end": 4391.66, "text": " If it can degrade down..." }, { "start": 4391.66, "end": 4393.66, "text": " And I think getting to X86," }, { "start": 4393.66, "end": 4395.66, "text": " theoretically, could make this possible," }, { "start": 4395.66, "end": 4401.66, "text": " where Battlefield 4 runs on an older gaming PC" }, { "start": 4401.66, "end": 4403.66, "text": " with an older video card," }, { "start": 4403.66, "end": 4407.66, "text": " and a new GTX 770 with a lot more features enabled." }, { "start": 4407.66, "end": 4409.66, "text": " So they could maybe create, just like on PC," }, { "start": 4409.66, "end": 4411.66, "text": " a forward compatibility strategy," }, { "start": 4411.66, "end": 4413.66, "text": " where you get the newest version of the game" }, { "start": 4413.66, "end": 4415.66, "text": " and it looks better on your new system." }, { "start": 4415.66, "end": 4419.66, "text": " And that way, they're constantly pushing it forward." }, { "start": 4419.66, "end": 4421.66, "text": " Boyd Malter at Microsoft was like," }, { "start": 4421.66, "end": 4423.66, "text": " we'll do 4K eventually." }, { "start": 4423.66, "end": 4425.66, "text": " Because 10 years, a decade from now," }, { "start": 4425.66, "end": 4427.66, "text": " people will have 4K TVs." }, { "start": 4427.66, "end": 4429.66, "text": " They've got to flip the switch sometime." }, { "start": 4429.66, "end": 4431.66, "text": " Microsoft did..." }, { "start": 4431.66, "end": 4433.66, "text": " PS3 was this crazy freaking cell thing." }, { "start": 4433.66, "end": 4437.66, "text": " How far can you take that before you have to reset the platform?" }, { "start": 4437.66, "end": 4439.66, "text": " No, that's great." }, { "start": 4439.66, "end": 4441.66, "text": " We can make excuses for not doing backwards compatibility all you want," }, { "start": 4441.66, "end": 4443.66, "text": " but that definitely means I'm not buying an Xbox One or PS4." }, { "start": 4443.66, "end": 4445.66, "text": " That's completely fair." }, { "start": 4445.66, "end": 4447.66, "text": " But 4K is what?" }, { "start": 4447.66, "end": 4449.66, "text": " It's three years away." }, { "start": 4449.66, "end": 4453.66, "text": " But the resolution hit is four times the vertical resolution?" }, { "start": 4453.66, "end": 4455.66, "text": " Yeah, there's four." }, { "start": 4455.66, "end": 4457.66, "text": " You're talking about..." }, { "start": 4457.66, "end": 4461.66, "text": " If we're having trouble hitting 1080p at 60 frames a second," }, { "start": 4461.66, "end": 4463.66, "text": " how are we doing 4K?" }, { "start": 4463.66, "end": 4465.66, "text": " It's missed in 4K." }, { "start": 4465.66, "end": 4467.66, "text": " Just point and click each beautiful screen." }, { "start": 4467.66, "end": 4469.66, "text": " It's one frame per second." }, { "start": 4469.66, "end": 4475.66, "text": " It would need to be hardware that is so far beyond what we have now." }, { "start": 4475.66, "end": 4479.66, "text": " Or different types of games where you're rendering vector-based games." }, { "start": 4479.66, "end": 4481.66, "text": " Where you're just filling screens with things without textures and stuff." }, { "start": 4481.66, "end": 4483.66, "text": " So Spectre." }, { "start": 4483.66, "end": 4485.66, "text": " Spectre for the Mac Classic in 4K." }, { "start": 4485.66, "end": 4487.66, "text": " Star Wars Arcade back in the day." }, { "start": 4487.66, "end": 4489.66, "text": " Or Virtual Boy." }, { "start": 4489.66, "end": 4491.66, "text": " Nice." }, { "start": 4491.66, "end": 4495.66, "text": " I asked Shuhei Yoshida at Sony when they launched the PS4," }, { "start": 4495.66, "end": 4497.66, "text": " the reveal event here in February," }, { "start": 4497.66, "end": 4499.66, "text": " if they were planning to do 4K." }, { "start": 4499.66, "end": 4501.66, "text": " And he basically said," }, { "start": 4501.66, "end": 4503.66, "text": " we'll do 4K for your home movies and pictures." }, { "start": 4503.66, "end": 4509.66, "text": " But for gaming, it's so far away that we're not even talking about it." }, { "start": 4509.66, "end": 4511.66, "text": " I went to a friend's office." }, { "start": 4511.66, "end": 4513.66, "text": " He's a high-end home theater dude." }, { "start": 4513.66, "end": 4517.66, "text": " Rich people contract at his company to put fancy home automation systems in." }, { "start": 4517.66, "end": 4521.66, "text": " And they had the Sony 4K TV in the circle with the light." }, { "start": 4521.66, "end": 4525.66, "text": " And we just sat there in the dark watching demo reels." }, { "start": 4525.66, "end": 4529.66, "text": " There's a family company that just goes diving with a 4K camera." }, { "start": 4529.66, "end": 4533.66, "text": " And I'm convinced their entire business is just selling demo reels to Sony." }, { "start": 4533.66, "end": 4535.66, "text": " So basically you've just gotten the wrong business." }, { "start": 4535.66, "end": 4537.66, "text": " I mean, it seems like an awesome business." }, { "start": 4537.66, "end": 4539.66, "text": " I mean, it's like a view of a reef." }, { "start": 4539.66, "end": 4541.66, "text": " And it's 15 minutes away from the ocean." }, { "start": 4541.66, "end": 4545.66, "text": " And it's like 15 minutes of them just looking at a fish with a camera." }, { "start": 4545.66, "end": 4547.66, "text": " But the fish on the TV in the dark," }, { "start": 4547.66, "end": 4549.66, "text": " because they're like the dealers," }, { "start": 4549.66, "end": 4551.66, "text": " so it's like perfectly calibrated." }, { "start": 4551.66, "end": 4553.66, "text": " It's just like a beautiful picture of a fish." }, { "start": 4553.66, "end": 4557.66, "text": " And they're like, why aren't we selling more of these?" }, { "start": 4557.66, "end": 4559.66, "text": " Because people don't sit in the dark" }, { "start": 4559.66, "end": 4563.66, "text": " and look at beautiful 15-minute movies of fish all day long." }, { "start": 4563.66, "end": 4566.66, "text": " But if you could convince them to do that, it would be incredible." }, { "start": 4566.66, "end": 4568.66, "text": " Marijuana is going to be legal one day." }, { "start": 4568.66, "end": 4570.66, "text": " Yeah, I mean, it was an incredible experience." }, { "start": 4570.66, "end": 4572.66, "text": " I mean, it was emotional." }, { "start": 4572.66, "end": 4574.66, "text": " It was moving." }, { "start": 4574.66, "end": 4576.66, "text": " You know what I recommend? It's cheaper too." }, { "start": 4576.66, "end": 4578.66, "text": " Just buy a fish." }, { "start": 4578.66, "end": 4582.66, "text": " Yeah, but you can't get like, I mean, this is like, these were fish." }, { "start": 4582.66, "end": 4585.66, "text": " One of them was a whale, to be honest." }, { "start": 4585.66, "end": 4592.66, "text": " It's like NASA trying to figure out how to make a pen that writes upside down." }, { "start": 4592.66, "end": 4594.66, "text": " Yeah, you just buy a fish." }, { "start": 4594.66, "end": 4596.66, "text": " But let's be honest. What would you rather have?" }, { "start": 4596.66, "end": 4600.66, "text": " A $10,000 beautiful saltwater aquarium or a 4K TV?" }, { "start": 4600.66, "end": 4603.66, "text": " Yeah, it's tough." }, { "start": 4603.66, "end": 4605.66, "text": " I don't want either is the answer." }, { "start": 4605.66, "end": 4607.66, "text": " Like, honest to God, I'm just fine." }, { "start": 4607.66, "end": 4610.66, "text": " What if it's a really thin aquarium that looks like a 4K TV?" }, { "start": 4610.66, "end": 4613.66, "text": " What's the nicest aquarium I can get for $500?" }, { "start": 4613.66, "end": 4617.66, "text": " I need a wallpaper of a fish and spend the rest of the money on a good beer or something." }, { "start": 4617.66, "end": 4618.66, "text": " Yeah, $10,000." }, { "start": 4618.66, "end": 4619.66, "text": " An aquarium keg." }, { "start": 4619.66, "end": 4620.66, "text": " The Chris Grant story, by the way." }, { "start": 4620.66, "end": 4623.66, "text": " And this is really the driving force behind Polygon." }, { "start": 4623.66, "end": 4630.66, "text": " Yeah, I want to make a website, get it to be successful enough, sell it for $10,000." }, { "start": 4630.66, "end": 4633.66, "text": " It's a real Snapchat story, that right there." }, { "start": 4633.66, "end": 4635.66, "text": " And then buy myself a saltwater aquarium." }, { "start": 4635.66, "end": 4638.66, "text": " $3 billion. I'll take 10 Gs to build a saltwater aquarium." }, { "start": 4638.66, "end": 4639.66, "text": " Get 10 Gs and some beer and we're good." }, { "start": 4639.66, "end": 4640.66, "text": " All right, we should wrap this up." }, { "start": 4640.66, "end": 4642.66, "text": " I'm getting silly. I'm still mad about the Moto G." }, { "start": 4642.66, "end": 4644.66, "text": " Ross, you have a lot to answer for with that thing." }, { "start": 4644.66, "end": 4646.66, "text": " My fault? I'm not a fan of super." }, { "start": 4646.66, "end": 4648.66, "text": " Should we call it the Moto 3G?" }, { "start": 4648.66, "end": 4651.66, "text": " Just like straight up put it in the name." }, { "start": 4651.66, "end": 4653.66, "text": " Put it in the name." }, { "start": 4653.66, "end": 4654.66, "text": " God, I hate everything." }, { "start": 4654.66, "end": 4655.66, "text": " That was the Vergecast." }, { "start": 4655.66, "end": 4657.66, "text": " I'm really happy you came." }, { "start": 4657.66, "end": 4658.66, "text": " I am." }, { "start": 4658.66, "end": 4660.66, "text": " I know that we talked about video games for a long time," }, { "start": 4660.66, "end": 4664.66, "text": " but we're going to do it again next week because the Xbox One is coming out next week." }, { "start": 4664.66, "end": 4667.66, "text": " And I'll have actual things to say about television and what it can do" }, { "start": 4667.66, "end": 4673.66, "text": " and the fact that it's a Windows PC without the Windows Store, which is very strange to me." }, { "start": 4673.66, "end": 4674.66, "text": " But we'll have more games." }, { "start": 4674.66, "end": 4676.66, "text": " We'll have more PS4 games." }, { "start": 4676.66, "end": 4677.66, "text": " We should, yeah, absolutely." }, { "start": 4677.66, "end": 4680.66, "text": " Especially if Chris' outlandish theories about tonight are true." }, { "start": 4680.66, "end": 4682.66, "text": " Are you going to a launch event tonight?" }, { "start": 4682.66, "end": 4684.66, "text": " We might. We have some reporters that are going." }, { "start": 4684.66, "end": 4688.66, "text": " I think we have some interviews set up." }, { "start": 4688.66, "end": 4692.66, "text": " We're debating over how many people to send because we've already done all the coverage." }, { "start": 4692.66, "end": 4693.66, "text": " I don't know. We'll see." }, { "start": 4693.66, "end": 4694.66, "text": " It's at the standard hotel." }, { "start": 4694.66, "end": 4696.66, "text": " They have it all covered in PlayStation." }, { "start": 4696.66, "end": 4699.66, "text": " I heard there was like a room, they did 40 rooms of video games there." }, { "start": 4699.66, "end": 4701.66, "text": " That sounds insane." }, { "start": 4701.66, "end": 4705.66, "text": " You go to the lobby, the PlayStation symbol is just all down the middle." }, { "start": 4705.66, "end": 4709.66, "text": " When you go to the elevator, there's a directory on the wall of the elevator" }, { "start": 4709.66, "end": 4711.66, "text": " of which floor has which things." }, { "start": 4711.66, "end": 4712.66, "text": " That sounds insane." }, { "start": 4712.66, "end": 4717.66, "text": " I should say our PlayStation review, which will pale in comparison to Polygon's," }, { "start": 4717.66, "end": 4724.66, "text": " but we did one anyway because we lumber through life in the shadow of our video gaming brethren." }, { "start": 4724.66, "end": 4727.66, "text": " Our review will be soon." }, { "start": 4727.66, "end": 4729.66, "text": " You really know how to sell this website." }, { "start": 4729.66, "end": 4731.66, "text": " We do some good stuff." }, { "start": 4731.66, "end": 4732.66, "text": " You know." }, { "start": 4732.66, "end": 4736.66, "text": " It's a website, kind of." }, { "start": 4736.66, "end": 4738.66, "text": " Sometimes we have stuff." }, { "start": 4738.66, "end": 4740.66, "text": " You visit it." }, { "start": 4740.66, "end": 4742.66, "text": " I have a lot of thoughts." }, { "start": 4742.66, "end": 4745.66, "text": " Guys, it's for sale on Craigslist for $10,000 if you're interested." }, { "start": 4745.66, "end": 4747.66, "text": " Sandwich.com, by the way." }, { "start": 4747.66, "end": 4749.66, "text": " Yahoo is selling Sandwich.com this week." }, { "start": 4749.66, "end": 4751.66, "text": " It's a real late night bit that I'm about to get into." }, { "start": 4751.66, "end": 4755.66, "text": " Yahoo selling Sandwich.com, which is true and we should buy it." }, { "start": 4755.66, "end": 4757.66, "text": " I've already brought it up with Jamaica." }, { "start": 4757.66, "end": 4759.66, "text": " Wow." }, { "start": 4759.66, "end": 4761.66, "text": " I'm not a late night comedian." }, { "start": 4761.66, "end": 4765.66, "text": " That's how you're ending with a mock table flip." }, { "start": 4765.66, "end": 4768.66, "text": " This is really ending in shambles here." }, { "start": 4768.66, "end": 4769.66, "text": " Just say goodbye." }, { "start": 4769.66, "end": 4772.66, "text": " Please, God, let that be the Verge cast." }, { "start": 4772.66, "end": 4774.66, "text": " I'm happy you came." }, { "start": 4774.66, "end": 4775.66, "text": " Neil Ives, Rikless." }, { "start": 4775.66, "end": 4776.66, "text": " Owner Roscoe Noe." }, { "start": 4776.66, "end": 4778.66, "text": " Chris Grant is at Chris Grant." }, { "start": 4778.66, "end": 4780.66, "text": " You can email us at Vergecast at Verge.com." }, { "start": 4780.66, "end": 4781.66, "text": " Ross is taking the reins here." }, { "start": 4781.66, "end": 4783.66, "text": " You look like you need help." }, { "start": 4783.66, "end": 4784.66, "text": " I do." }, { "start": 4784.66, "end": 4785.66, "text": " I'm flailing." }, { "start": 4785.66, "end": 4786.66, "text": " Look, you can get a hold of us." }, { "start": 4786.66, "end": 4789.66, "text": " I know you're going to have things to say about video games, the fact that I had ideas" }, { "start": 4789.66, "end": 4793.66, "text": " about video games, which most of you hate, but Chris is here and I think he did a good job." }, { "start": 4793.66, "end": 4796.66, "text": " So that was a Verge cast goodbye." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 6, "text": " It's Thursday, November 14, 2013. I'm Nathan Seidkert and I am the real daughter of Andy Kaufman." }, { "start": 6, "end": 7.68, "text": " This is 90 Seconds on the Verge." }, { "start": 7.68, "end": 11.84, "text": " President Obama continued his apology for the faults of Healthcare.gov today," }, { "start": 11.84, "end": 16.64, "text": " saying if he had known of the technical issues, he would not have allowed the site to open on October 1st." }, { "start": 16.64, "end": 20.64, "text": " Even as late as a week after launch, Obama believed the problems were not that dire," }, { "start": 20.64, "end": 23.92, "text": " despite the fact that only six people were able to enroll on the first day." }, { "start": 23.92, "end": 26.560000000000002, "text": " These flubs haven't helped Obama's approval rating either." }, { "start": 26.56, "end": 32.32, "text": " A recent poll from Quinnipiac University found that 52% of voters thought Obama was not honest and trustworthy." }, { "start": 32.32, "end": 36.56, "text": " Google's eight-year legal battle over Google Books has finally come to a victorious end." }, { "start": 36.56, "end": 39.6, "text": " A federal judge today ruled that Google's use of scanned images," }, { "start": 39.6, "end": 43.04, "text": " which the Authors Guild felt infringed on the book's copyright protections," }, { "start": 43.04, "end": 47.2, "text": " is in fact considered transformative and thus falls under fair use protections." }, { "start": 47.2, "end": 50.4, "text": " The Authors Guild has since announced their plans to appeal the decision." }, { "start": 50.4, "end": 53.120000000000005, "text": " Or so I read from documents scanned on Google Books." }, { "start": 53.120000000000005, "end": 55.84, "text": " And finally, $3 billion isn't cool anymore." }, { "start": 55.84, "end": 57.2, "text": " You know what it is? Pictures of your..." }, { "start": 57.2, "end": 62.56, "text": " The Wall Street Journal reports that Facebook attempted to acquire Snapchat for a whopping $3 billion cash," }, { "start": 62.56, "end": 64.16, "text": " and the company turned them down." }, { "start": 64.16, "end": 70.72, "text": " According to the report, Snapchat CEO Evan Spiegel won't seriously consider any acquisition offers until early next year." }, { "start": 70.72, "end": 76.48, "text": " Snapchat currently has over 100 million users, with over 350 million snaps sent every day." }, { "start": 76.48, "end": 79.28, "text": " $3 billion!" }, { "start": 79.28, "end": 80.88, "text": " And that's it for today's top stories." }, { "start": 80.88, "end": 84.64, "text": " Coming up tomorrow, my brother and I start production back up on our Cain and Abel film." }, { "start": 84.64, "end": 86.96, "text": " I'm telling you, it was his fault we had to shut down in the first place." }, { "start": 86.96, "end": 88.56, "text": " I was always like, you don't know what you're talking about." }, { "start": 88.56, "end": 116.56, "text": " And he's like, you don't know how to shoot a movie now." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 4.96, "text": " This is David with The Verge and this is the iPad Mini with Retina Display." }, { "start": 4.96, "end": 8.08, "text": " This is the tablet we've known was coming for 12 months since Apple released the first" }, { "start": 8.08, "end": 9.68, "text": " iPad Mini last year." }, { "start": 9.68, "end": 14.040000000000001, "text": " But when Apple announced it this fall, the new 7.9 inch iPad came as a bit of a surprise." }, { "start": 14.040000000000001, "end": 17.98, "text": " It's spec for spec almost identical to the iPad Air, with the same processor, the same" }, { "start": 17.98, "end": 20.54, "text": " screen resolution, the same storage options." }, { "start": 20.54, "end": 21.76, "text": " And the price went up." }, { "start": 21.76, "end": 26.92, "text": " The iPad Mini with Retina Display starts at $399 for 16GB of storage and goes all the" }, { "start": 26.92, "end": 31.92, "text": " way up to a crazy $829 for 128GB of storage and LTE." }, { "start": 31.92, "end": 35.6, "text": " The word mini used to mean something pejorative, as if it was the weaker little brother of" }, { "start": 35.6, "end": 37.28, "text": " the standard larger iPad." }, { "start": 37.28, "end": 38.96, "text": " But this year, mini doesn't mean less." }, { "start": 38.96, "end": 40.760000000000005, "text": " It just means, well, smaller." }, { "start": 40.760000000000005, "end": 44.72, "text": " Unlike the new iPad Air, the iPad Mini didn't get a big visual overhaul this year." }, { "start": 44.72, "end": 48.42, "text": " The Air actually looks a lot like the Mini now, and the Mini hasn't changed much." }, { "start": 48.42, "end": 52.1, "text": " It comes in Apple's new trademark silver and space gray, and it's every bit as impressive" }, { "start": 52.1, "end": 53.46, "text": " as it was a year ago." }, { "start": 53.46, "end": 56.24, "text": " It's so solid, so sturdy, so compact." }, { "start": 56.24, "end": 60.04, "text": " It feels much colder and more machine-like than the Nexus 7, and it's a little harder" }, { "start": 60.04, "end": 63.2, "text": " to hold in one hand just because it's so thin and so wide." }, { "start": 63.2, "end": 65.84, "text": " But it's still totally unmatched in its build quality." }, { "start": 65.84, "end": 69.6, "text": " The Mini with Retina Display weighs about three quarters of a pound, and it's 7.5mm" }, { "start": 69.6, "end": 74.4, "text": " thick, thinner but slightly heavier than the Nexus 7, and actually imperceptibly heavier" }, { "start": 74.4, "end": 76.24000000000001, "text": " and thicker than last year's iPad Mini." }, { "start": 76.24000000000001, "end": 78.64, "text": " I can't say I noticed the difference, though." }, { "start": 78.64, "end": 82.04, "text": " It feels fantastic in two hands, though in mine it's still too big to use comfortably" }, { "start": 82.04, "end": 83.2, "text": " in one." }, { "start": 83.2, "end": 87.16, "text": " With the same metal housing, the same smooth back, and the same tiny bezels, the Mini looks" }, { "start": 87.16, "end": 89.10000000000001, "text": " the same as it always did." }, { "start": 89.10000000000001, "end": 90.88, "text": " And then you turn it on." }, { "start": 90.88, "end": 96.84, "text": " The Mini's new 7.9-inch 2048x1536 display is just ridiculously gorgeous." }, { "start": 96.84, "end": 101.18, "text": " It's the same resolution as the iPad Air, but smaller, obviously, and it's 324 pixels" }, { "start": 101.18, "end": 103, "text": " per inch is incredibly high." }, { "start": 103, "end": 106.94, "text": " Incidentally, its pixel density is almost identical to the Nexus 7, which has an also" }, { "start": 106.94, "end": 110.16, "text": " beautiful 7-inch 1920x1200 display." }, { "start": 110.16, "end": 111.76, "text": " The screen is beautiful and accurate." }, { "start": 111.76, "end": 115.68, "text": " It makes reading more fun, games more immersive, and watching videos all the better, even if" }, { 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Typically heavy games do cause the iPad Mini to stutter, but for the most part it's really" }, { "start": 144.16, "end": 145.82, "text": " smooth and really fast." }, { "start": 145.82, "end": 150.08, "text": " The M7 motion coprocessor is here as well, along with a FaceTime HD camera on the front," }, { "start": 150.08, "end": 153.76, "text": " a 5 megapixel camera on the back, and the same dual microphones and stereo speakers" }, { "start": 153.76, "end": 155.2, "text": " as last year's model." }, { "start": 155.2, "end": 159, "text": " The new A7 is really the point, and it makes a huge, huge difference." }, { "start": 159, "end": 162.8, "text": " But it can't completely solve some of the problems iOS 7 still creates." }, { "start": 162.8, "end": 166.16, "text": " For all its power, the iPad Mini with Retina Display still stutters when you close an app" }, { "start": 166.16, "end": 167.68, "text": " using the five-finger gesture." }, { "start": 167.68, "end": 170.32, "text": " iOS 7 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"text": " Do you want the big one or the small one?" }, { "start": 273.28, "end": 276.71999999999997, "text": " No matter who you are or what you do with a tablet, you can't really pick wrong." }, { "start": 276.71999999999997, "end": 278.64, "text": " And that might be the best thing about the iPad Mini." }, { "start": 278.64, "end": 280.6, "text": " There's not a single compromise anywhere." }, { "start": 280.6, "end": 284.92, "text": " I think that's worth paying a little more for." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 2.84, "text": " It's Wednesday, November 13th, 2013." }, { "start": 2.84, "end": 4.76, "text": " I'm Ross Miller and well," }, { "start": 4.76, "end": 6.48, "text": " Polygon kicked us out of the studio." }, { "start": 6.48, "end": 8.32, "text": " It's okay, I've got an idea." }, { "start": 8.32, "end": 9.68, "text": " This is 90 seconds on the verge." }, { "start": 9.68, "end": 10.68, "text": " Hello, Moto G." }, { "start": 10.68, "end": 13.280000000000001, "text": " Motorola's latest smartphone looks strikingly similar" }, { "start": 13.280000000000001, "end": 15.68, "text": " to the Moto X and packs a surprising amount of power" }, { "start": 15.68, "end": 19.16, "text": " for just $179, unlocked off contract." }, { "start": 19.16, "end": 23.8, "text": " The Moto G has a 4.5 inch 720p screen and Android 4.3." }, { "start": 23.8, "end": 25.96, "text": " What you don't get is some of Moto X's more unique features" }, { "start": 25.96, "end": 28.8, "text": " like active notifications and touchless voice controls," }, { "start": 28.8, "end": 31.64, "text": " but it's a small price to pay for the small price you pay." }, { "start": 31.64, "end": 33.160000000000004, "text": " What are you guys doing in my office?" }, { "start": 35.36, "end": 37.84, "text": " Owners of the new HP Chromebook 11 will want to be cautious" }, { "start": 37.84, "end": 39.08, "text": " the next time they charge up." }, { "start": 39.08, "end": 41.88, "text": " HP says it received complaints from some Chromebook owners" }, { "start": 41.88, "end": 43.56, "text": " that the chargers included with the notebooks" }, { "start": 43.56, "end": 44.4, "text": " were overheating." }, { "start": 44.4, "end": 47.040000000000006, "text": " HP and Google have pulled all Chromebook 11s" }, { "start": 47.040000000000006, "end": 48.88, "text": " from Best Buy stores and online." }, { "start": 48.88, "end": 50.08, "text": " For now, the company's advised" }, { "start": 50.08, "end": 51.68, "text": " that all current Chromebook 11 users" }, { "start": 51.68, "end": 53.68, "text": " use third party chargers instead." }, { "start": 53.68, "end": 55.6, "text": " Do you mind?" }, { "start": 55.6, "end": 57.040000000000006, "text": " Finally, paying for a cable bundle" }, { "start": 57.040000000000006, "end": 58.6, "text": " might just get a little bit sweeter." }, { "start": 58.6, "end": 60.84, "text": " The Wall Street Journal reports that Hulu is in talks" }, { "start": 60.84, "end": 62.92, "text": " with several high profile television providers" }, { "start": 62.92, "end": 65.68, "text": " about potentially bundling Hulu Plus subscriptions" }, { "start": 65.68, "end": 67.44, "text": " into pay TV packages." }, { "start": 67.44, "end": 70.36, "text": " According to the report, Time Warner Cable, Comcast, Cox," }, { "start": 70.36, "end": 73.8, "text": " AT&T, and Verizon have been among the companies in the talks." }, { "start": 73.8, "end": 76.28, "text": " The talks are said to still be in relatively early stages" }, { "start": 76.28, "end": 78.08, "text": " with any final deal still months away." }, { "start": 78.08, "end": 81.52000000000001, "text": " Excuse me, what are you doing in my coat closet?" }, { "start": 81.52000000000001, "end": 82.88, "text": " That's it for today's top stories," }, { "start": 82.88, "end": 84.52000000000001, "text": " but coming up tomorrow I continue my search" }, { "start": 84.52000000000001, "end": 86.4, "text": " for a new home for this show." }, { "start": 86.4, "end": 87.52000000000001, "text": " Excuse me, is there anywhere I can," }, { "start": 87.52, "end": 88.88, "text": " can I host at your place?" } ]

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[ { "start": 0, "end": 5.7, "text": " This is Dan with The Verge and we are taking a look at the Motorola Moto G." }, { "start": 5.7, "end": 10.84, "text": " The Moto G is Motorola's latest device in its lineup and it looks very similar to the" }, { "start": 10.84, "end": 12.56, "text": " Moto X that preceded it." }, { "start": 12.56, "end": 16.42, "text": " Very similar shape, size, weight, and feel as the Moto X." }, { "start": 16.42, "end": 20.56, "text": " It's a little bit thicker and it's ever so slightly heavier but you really wouldn't notice" }, { "start": 20.56, "end": 23.76, "text": " that unless you compare the two side by side." }, { "start": 23.76, "end": 30.200000000000003, "text": " The Moto G has a 4.5 inch 720p LCD display as opposed to the AMOLED that's on the Moto X." }, { "start": 30.200000000000003, "end": 36.78, "text": " It's got a 1.3 megapixel front facing camera and on the back is a 5 megapixel camera with LED flash." }, { "start": 36.78, "end": 40.540000000000006, "text": " The other unique hardware thing here with the Moto G is that you are able to remove" }, { "start": 40.540000000000006, "end": 44.2, "text": " the back plate which you can then swap with different colors." }, { "start": 44.2, "end": 48.96, "text": " Unfortunately the battery is not removable nor does it have a micro SD card slot so it" }, { "start": 48.96, "end": 52.040000000000006, "text": " is purely a cosmetic thing to take the back off." }, { "start": 52.04, "end": 56.24, "text": " The battery inside is a 2040 milliamp hour battery so it's a little bit smaller than" }, { "start": 56.24, "end": 58.6, "text": " the Moto X but not hugely so." }, { "start": 58.6, "end": 63.56, "text": " Another big difference between the Moto G and the Moto X is the Moto G does not have LTE." }, { "start": 63.56, "end": 66.84, "text": " Which kind of makes sense because Motorola is targeting this at a global market where" }, { "start": 66.84, "end": 69.38, "text": " LTE is less of a priority." }, { "start": 69.38, "end": 72.92, "text": " Inside the Moto G has a quad core Snapdragon 400 processor." }, { "start": 72.92, "end": 77.32, "text": " It's clocked at 1.2 gigahertz and it's got 1 gigabyte of RAM and this particular unit" }, { "start": 77.32, "end": 82.44, "text": " has 8 gigabytes of internal storage but Motorola says that it will be available in 16 gigabyte" }, { "start": 82.44, "end": 84.11999999999999, "text": " versions as well." }, { "start": 84.11999999999999, "end": 90.44, "text": " The software that's running on here is a very simple build of Android 4.3 Jelly Bean but" }, { "start": 90.44, "end": 95.96, "text": " Motorola says that 4.4 KitKat will be coming to the Moto G in the very near future." }, { "start": 95.96, "end": 99.08, "text": " The big difference here between the Moto X and the Moto G is that the G does not have" }, { "start": 99.08, "end": 101.58, "text": " any of Motorola's unique software features." }, { "start": 101.58, "end": 106.17999999999999, "text": " It doesn't have active notifications, it doesn't have touchless control and it doesn't have" }, { "start": 106.18, "end": 108.32000000000001, "text": " quick capture to launch the camera." }, { "start": 108.32000000000001, "end": 113.76, "text": " The biggest story with the Moto G is its price which is $179 unlocked and without a contract." }, { "start": 113.76, "end": 117.60000000000001, "text": " It's one of the most impressive prices we've ever seen for a phone this capable." }, { "start": 117.60000000000001, "end": 120.88000000000001, "text": " Motorola will be selling this in Brazil and other parts of the world this quarter and" }, { "start": 120.88, "end": 140.48, "text": " it's expected to come to the US next year where it will be sold on prepaid brands." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 6.140000000000001, "text": " This is Ross Miller with The Verge, and this is Remote Play for the PlayStation 4, which" }, { "start": 6.140000000000001, "end": 10.32, "text": " allows you to stream and play full games from your console to a PS Vita." }, { "start": 10.32, "end": 13.96, "text": " Remote Play isn't an entirely new concept and has been around in some way, shape, or" }, { "start": 13.96, "end": 18.36, "text": " form since the PS3 days, but until now it's only worked with a limited number of games." }, { "start": 18.36, "end": 22.080000000000002, "text": " With the PlayStation 4, Remote Play is supported on the system level for nearly every game" }, { "start": 22.080000000000002, "end": 23.76, "text": " that doesn't require a PlayStation camera." }, { "start": 23.76, "end": 27.16, "text": " For the launch titles we tried, that's pretty much everything except Just Dance." }, { "start": 27.16, "end": 29.16, "text": " Oh, and Netflix doesn't work either." }, { "start": 29.16, "end": 32.44, "text": " Setup is easy and will connect either locally or via internet connection when you're too" }, { "start": 32.44, "end": 33.44, "text": " far away." }, { "start": 33.44, "end": 37, "text": " The Vita will now mirror your PlayStation 4 screen, menu, system, and all." }, { "start": 37, "end": 40.72, "text": " The controls are basically what you'd expect, with the DualShock 4's touchpad mapped to" }, { "start": 40.72, "end": 46.04, "text": " the Vita's touch screen, and with L2, L3, R2, and R3 mapped to the four corners of the" }, { "start": 46.04, "end": 47.36, "text": " rear touchpad." }, { "start": 47.36, "end": 48.96, "text": " That was kind of weird." }, { "start": 48.96, "end": 52.66, "text": " For Killzone that proved difficult to trigger, while for Need for Speed it actually proved" }, { "start": 52.66, "end": 55.400000000000006, "text": " far too easy to get the sirens blazing." }, { "start": 55.4, "end": 59.16, "text": " In the same room, Remote Play is actually quite responsive, but lag becomes a little" }, { "start": 59.16, "end": 61.199999999999996, "text": " more noticeable the farther you get." }, { "start": 61.199999999999996, "end": 63.4, "text": " For some games, it won't really matter." }, { "start": 63.4, "end": 67.16, "text": " For Twitcher titles, however, those extra milliseconds could get very frustrating." }, { "start": 67.16, "end": 71.28, "text": " And even some technically compatible games won't work because, well, it's really tiny" }, { "start": 71.28, "end": 73.06, "text": " text on a 5-inch screen." }, { "start": 73.06, "end": 76.7, "text": " The best thing we can say about PlayStation 4 Remote Play is that it just works." }, { "start": 76.7, "end": 79, "text": " And under the right conditions, it works surprisingly well." }, { "start": 79, "end": 82.32, "text": " But the biggest hurdle for many people might be the Vita itself." }, { "start": 82.32, "end": 86.58, "text": " The $200 portable can be a hard sell, but even as a luxury accessory for the PlayStation" }, { "start": 86.58, "end": 90.61999999999999, "text": " 4, it's kind of nice to play a next-gen title while at the same time freeing up your living" }, { "start": 90.61999999999999, "end": 91.66, "text": " room TV." }, { "start": 91.66, "end": 95.72, "text": " It's been literally only a few hours since Sony activated the PlayStation Network, and" }, { "start": 95.72, "end": 98.13999999999999, "text": " we're just diving into the PlayStation 4." }, { "start": 98.14, "end": 116.4, "text": " We'll have much more to say in a full review very soon." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 5.3, "text": " It's Tuesday, November 12th, 2013, and a Michael Che in a day keeps the doctor away." }, { "start": 5.3, "end": 8.66, "text": " Seriously, I've never been sick a day in my life!" }, { "start": 8.66, "end": 10.200000000000001, "text": " This is 90 seconds on the verge." }, { "start": 10.200000000000001, "end": 13.26, "text": " The iPad Mini with Retina Display is finally available." }, { "start": 13.26, "end": 18.94, "text": " The 7.9 inch tablet starts at $399 for the 16GB Wi-Fi only model." }, { "start": 18.94, "end": 23.84, "text": " Apple CEO Tim Cook said in late October that there may be supply constraints through the holidays." }, { "start": 23.84, "end": 26.92, "text": " Not content with your $1,500 Google Glass?" }, { "start": 26.92, "end": 28.5, "text": " Why not accessorize?" }, { "start": 28.5, "end": 34.16, "text": " For the first time, Google will allow for stereo playback through Glass with a set of $85 earbuds." }, { "start": 34.16, "end": 38, "text": " In addition to the new accessory, a software update today adds a, quote," }, { "start": 38, "end": 41.92, "text": " Listen To command that will integrate with the company's Play Music service." }, { "start": 41.92, "end": 46.400000000000006, "text": " Okay, Glass, listen to the complete discography of Lou Bega." }, { "start": 46.400000000000006, "end": 51.7, "text": " And finally, One World Trade Center has officially been crowned the tallest building in the United States." }, { "start": 51.7, "end": 57.28, "text": " The height of the New World Trade Center, a symbolic 1,776 feet, has been known for some time," }, { "start": 57.28, "end": 63.24, "text": " but there was a debate over whether or not the spire on top of the building is in fact an architecturally significant feature." }, { "start": 63.24, "end": 67.44, "text": " However, the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat agreed that it marked, quote," }, { "start": 67.44, "end": 70.16, "text": " the ends of the architectural expression of the building." }, { "start": 70.16, "end": 73.6, "text": " This makes One World Trade Center the third tallest building in the world," }, { "start": 73.6, "end": 78.62, "text": " well behind the 2,722 feet tall Burj Khalifa in Dubai." }, { "start": 78.62, "end": 80.2, "text": " That's it for today's top stories." }, { "start": 80.2, "end": 84.28, "text": " Coming up tomorrow, I try my hand at some standup comedy." }, { "start": 84.28, "end": 88.92, "text": " My house got hit with such a storm last night that I thought I was in Russia, because I was Snowdin'!" } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 6.24, "text": " Greetings, mobile accomplishers. Welcome to the Verge Mobile Show. It is the week of November" }, { "start": 6.24, "end": 15.52, "text": " 11th, 2013. Today is 11-12-13, which means that we're all doomed. There's a comet in" }, { "start": 15.52, "end": 21.96, "text": " the sky and it's going to spell the end of humanity. I am Dieter Bohm." }, { "start": 21.96, "end": 24.080000000000002, "text": " I'm Dan Seifert." }, { "start": 24.080000000000002, "end": 25.88, "text": " I'm Chris Ziegler." }, { "start": 25.88, "end": 27.64, "text": " And I am Evan Rogers." }, { "start": 27.64, "end": 30.84, "text": " Welcome back to the show. We're so pleased to have you here." }, { "start": 30.84, "end": 39.08, "text": " I think that our last mobile show with Evan was not just a fine mobile show, but the finest" }, { "start": 39.08, "end": 43.72, "text": " ever. And I'm sure that our listeners and viewers would agree. So we're all very, very" }, { "start": 43.72, "end": 44.72, "text": " excited to have him back." }, { "start": 44.72, "end": 49.72, "text": " Now, was this a function of Evan's presence or my absence?" }, { "start": 49.72, "end": 51.68, "text": " I think it was a function of both." }, { "start": 51.68, "end": 52.68, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 52.68, "end": 59, "text": " Well, for those of you who don't know, Evan usually serves the role of producer for the" }, { "start": 59, "end": 65.76, "text": " Verge Mobile Show. So he's actually, he hasn't relinquished those duties this week. So I'm" }, { "start": 65.76, "end": 70.64, "text": " curious to see whether he's able to multitask and still run the show while being on the" }, { "start": 70.64, "end": 71.64, "text": " show." }, { "start": 71.64, "end": 76.56, "text": " Listen, you know, things are going to happen in the background. Just pay no attention to" }, { "start": 76.56, "end": 80.84, "text": " the man behind the curtain and in front of the curtain. It'll be okay." }, { "start": 80.84, "end": 85.8, "text": " Alright, so these new Hangout thumbnails are not okay." }, { "start": 85.8, "end": 86.8, "text": " You don't like them?" }, { "start": 86.8, "end": 92.18, "text": " I mean, is this, are people watching the live show seeing what I'm seeing, like my eyes" }, { "start": 92.18, "end": 96.60000000000001, "text": " hovering above Chris's head, just like creepily? Or are they looking at me ducking down for" }, { "start": 96.60000000000001, "end": 97.60000000000001, "text": " no good reason?" }, { "start": 97.60000000000001, "end": 99.2, "text": " They're looking at you ducking down." }, { "start": 99.2, "end": 101.08000000000001, "text": " To the rest of the world. Really? Okay." }, { "start": 101.08000000000001, "end": 102.08000000000001, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 102.08000000000001, "end": 107.92, "text": " All I see is like my mouth is gone, where I'm speaking Chris's head is, and it's very" }, { "start": 107.92, "end": 108.92, "text": " creepy." }, { "start": 108.92, "end": 115.2, "text": " So if I look up, it's like I'm looking up at the giant head above me?" }, { "start": 115.2, "end": 123.8, "text": " Well yeah, as long as you're not talking, then yes. So yeah. So okay, what do we got" }, { "start": 123.8, "end": 129.88, "text": " for Steph to talk about? We've got Moto Maker. Moto Maker is available for everybody in the" }, { "start": 129.88, "end": 132.32, "text": " US, not in the world." }, { "start": 132.32, "end": 137.08, "text": " Yeah, people in the world wish it was everywhere in the world. I don't know if anyone on this" }, { "start": 137.08, "end": 145.76000000000002, "text": " program can do a good Vlad imitation, but I bet Ellis Hamburger does a good Vlad. But" }, { "start": 145.76000000000002, "end": 152.16000000000003, "text": " anyway, if he were here, he would complain that it's still not, as far as I know, it's" }, { "start": 152.16000000000003, "end": 153.16000000000003, "text": " still not in the UK, right?" }, { "start": 153.16000000000003, "end": 158.16000000000003, "text": " No, it is not. It's only available in the US and Canada, I guess." }, { "start": 158.16000000000003, "end": 160.28, "text": " It's tragic. Moto Maker is great." }, { "start": 160.28, "end": 165.84, "text": " You guys think people are still excited? Like, after this exclusivity has ended?" }, { "start": 165.84, "end": 175.24, "text": " Look, I've used a Moto X pretty consistently over the past few days now, and I was reminded" }, { "start": 175.24, "end": 180.86, "text": " at just how great of a phone it is. I would not hesitate to recommend it to pretty much" }, { "start": 180.86, "end": 184.44, "text": " anyone looking for a new Android phone, and I think I would recommend it over a Nexus" }, { "start": 184.44, "end": 190.16, "text": " 5. I just briefly touched Nexus 5 when I was in New York last week, but it's just an awesome" }, { "start": 190.16, "end": 195.8, "text": " phone. It's the perfect size, software is great, the camera improvements really helped," }, { "start": 195.8, "end": 201.52, "text": " yeah. I mean, it's awesome, and the configurator just makes it that much better. I know that" }, { "start": 201.52, "end": 204.28, "text": " some folks, Dan, I think you included, are waiting for wood." }, { "start": 204.28, "end": 205.28, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 205.28, "end": 208.04000000000002, "text": " I didn't blame you. Bit of a double entendre." }, { "start": 208.04000000000002, "end": 215.44, "text": " Phil, can I ask you about the camera update? Because Dieter, you've also had the Moto X" }, { "start": 215.44, "end": 216.44, "text": " and gotten the update." }, { "start": 216.44, "end": 217.44, "text": " That's right." }, { "start": 217.44, "end": 220.4, "text": " Is it like a real improvement?" }, { "start": 220.4, "end": 227.44, "text": " It is a real improvement, but I mean, a 3 is better than a 2. I don't know, actually," }, { "start": 227.44, "end": 232.04000000000002, "text": " I have no idea what we scored the camera. And also, it's better than that because the" }, { "start": 232.04000000000002, "end": 237.92000000000002, "text": " Moto X camera is, I think, demonstrably better than the Nexus 5 camera, which again, we're" }, { "start": 237.92000000000002, "end": 249.4, "text": " in the realm of not saying that much. But it's better. It handles low light slightly" }, { "start": 249.4, "end": 256.36, "text": " better and it's just less noisy, but it can't handle genuine low light nearly as well as" }, { "start": 256.36, "end": 264.08, "text": " an iPhone 5S, or of course, if you want to go crazy, a 920 or a 1020. It can't do Lumia" }, { "start": 264.08, "end": 272.72, "text": " style stuff. But as long as you're not in the dark or in twilight, it's great. It's" }, { "start": 272.72, "end": 277.88, "text": " pretty great. I mean, I can, I did this last week with the Nexus 5, I took a selfie, I" }, { "start": 277.88, "end": 282.8, "text": " could do it again." }, { "start": 282.8, "end": 288.04, "text": " I mean, just while Dieter does that, all those things that Chris mentioned are great and" }, { "start": 288.04, "end": 294.86, "text": " then also the price dropped to $100 on contract across all carriers. So it kind of makes the" }, { "start": 294.86, "end": 300.52, "text": " Moto X pretty enticing proposition for anybody that is shopping for a new Android phone." }, { "start": 300.52, "end": 306, "text": " And just to echo what Chris said, I'd recommend it for the average person over the Nexus 5" }, { "start": 306, "end": 312.56, "text": " pretty much any day of the week. And a lot of that has to do with the way that the average" }, { "start": 312.56, "end": 319.04, "text": " people in America, in the US or whatever, still buy their smart phones. Very few people" }, { "start": 319.04, "end": 324, "text": " are buying unlocked phones and using them off contract, mostly because AT&T, Verizon," }, { "start": 324, "end": 328.94, "text": " Sprint, they don't give you a discount to do that. So there's really very little incentive" }, { "start": 328.94, "end": 333.68, "text": " unless you're a T-Mobile customer to pay for a phone off contract and then use it on" }, { "start": 333.68, "end": 338.48, "text": " your plan. 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And I'm willing to believe that they can fix the camera to have the shutter" }, { "start": 401.11999999999995, "end": 407, "text": " speed not be 4.2 seconds on the Nexus 5, which would be pretty amazing." }, { "start": 407, "end": 412.96, "text": " Yeah, that's the biggest problem with the Nexus 5 is it takes forever to focus and snap" }, { "start": 412.96, "end": 417.23999999999995, "text": " the picture and then it misses focus so often. If you're taking a picture of something" }, { "start": 417.23999999999995, "end": 421.79999999999995, "text": " that's like still and not moving then it can take a great photo. So a lot of that does" }, { "start": 421.79999999999995, "end": 424.47999999999996, "text": " have to do with software, so hopefully…" }, { "start": 424.47999999999996, "end": 429.67999999999995, "text": " Yeah, people have been sending me XDA developer links to people that are trying to hack the" }, { "start": 429.67999999999995, "end": 436.35999999999996, "text": " software to have it, to change with the low-level settings to make it better. I am not rooting" }, { "start": 436.35999999999996, "end": 440.15999999999997, "text": " my Nexus 5 any time soon." }, { "start": 440.15999999999997, "end": 441.15999999999997, "text": " Not even rooting it?" }, { "start": 441.16, "end": 448.16, "text": " Dude, I've been doing enough of that lately. I completely break my One X, I mean hard." }, { "start": 450.08000000000004, "end": 457.08000000000004, "text": " And I did it to my One and I just need a break, man. Too much rooting, too much effort." }, { "start": 459.08000000000004, "end": 466.08000000000004, "text": " Well, because I rooted, I actually have a version of Android 4.4 on my One somewhere." }, { "start": 466.08, "end": 470.12, "text": " Boom. So that's cool." }, { "start": 470.12, "end": 477.12, "text": " So actually, so rooting CyanogenMod OS is now, they've got a one-click installer" }, { "start": 478.84, "end": 482.15999999999997, "text": " apparently on Google Play?" }, { "start": 482.15999999999997, "end": 483.15999999999997, "text": " Apparently…" }, { "start": 483.15999999999997, "end": 488.15999999999997, "text": " They've been talking about it for a couple of weeks now, like almost a month, haven't" }, { "start": 488.15999999999997, "end": 489.15999999999997, "text": " they?" }, { "start": 489.15999999999997, "end": 494.08, "text": " Yeah, well I think it still needs to be paired with the Windows app that they launched or" }, { "start": 494.08, "end": 499.84, "text": " announced earlier on. But this Android app that you can download from the Play Store" }, { "start": 499.84, "end": 506.84, "text": " I guess makes it that much easier. Which is cool, I mean if you're into rooting and" }, { "start": 507.44, "end": 511.71999999999997, "text": " modding your phone, it's never been easier to install a custom ROM if you have a supported" }, { "start": 511.71999999999997, "end": 512.72, "text": " device." }, { "start": 512.72, "end": 513.72, "text": " So I haven't tried this…" }, { "start": 513.72, "end": 520.72, "text": " How do you feel about them calling it CyanogenMod OS? That's what it's called, CyanogenMod" }, { "start": 520.92, "end": 521.92, "text": " OS." }, { "start": 521.92, "end": 526.92, "text": " Yeah, that makes sense to me. We talked about this last week, how the Nexus 5 doesn't" }, { "start": 526.92, "end": 531.8399999999999, "text": " have, we don't think, like there's always been that talk of like stock Android and AOSP" }, { "start": 531.8399999999999, "end": 536.9599999999999, "text": " and you know, bare bones Android or whatever. But you know, when you look at the Nexus 5," }, { "start": 536.9599999999999, "end": 539.4799999999999, "text": " it's not stock Android, it's Google's OS." }, { "start": 539.4799999999999, "end": 542.2199999999999, "text": " Yeah, but if I asked you what OS the Nexus 5 ran, what would you say?" }, { "start": 542.2199999999999, "end": 543.92, "text": " I would say it runs Android, but if you ask me what OS…" }, { "start": 543.92, "end": 545.5999999999999, "text": " If I asked you what the S4 runs, what would you say?" }, { "start": 545.5999999999999, "end": 547.28, "text": " I would say it runs Android." }, { "start": 547.28, "end": 550.28, "text": " Okay, so…" }, { "start": 550.28, "end": 556.64, "text": " I guess I see your point, but you know, I don't know, CyanogenMod is more than just" }, { "start": 556.64, "end": 557.64, "text": " a skin." }, { "start": 557.64, "end": 558.64, "text": " Yeah, well that's true." }, { "start": 558.64, "end": 565.64, "text": " It is more than just a skin. There's a lot of customize ability in CyanogenMod and whether" }, { "start": 565.88, "end": 571.72, "text": " or not that really warrants an OS moniker is kind of, I feel like probably not, but" }, { "start": 571.72, "end": 574.8399999999999, "text": " it sounds cool and you know, it's the device…" }, { "start": 574.84, "end": 580.84, "text": " I mean it's worthy, I mean it's a flavor of Linux, right? Like it's worthy of the OS label" }, { "start": 580.84, "end": 584.5600000000001, "text": " just the same as Ubuntu or Red Hat or…" }, { "start": 584.5600000000001, "end": 589.76, "text": " Well, but I would say, I would argue, just to you know, argue against my own point, I" }, { "start": 589.76, "end": 595.88, "text": " would argue that it's no more of a customization than TouchWiz is that Samsung does and Samsung" }, { "start": 595.88, "end": 599, "text": " doesn't call it TouchWiz OS on its devices." }, { "start": 599, "end": 606, "text": " Well, I don't think Samsung has used the TouchWiz label in their versions. I mean it's" }, { "start": 606.2, "end": 609.6, "text": " just the Samsung experience now or you know, whatever." }, { "start": 609.6, "end": 610.92, "text": " The Wiz." }, { "start": 610.92, "end": 611.8, "text": " The Wiz." }, { "start": 611.8, "end": 616.76, "text": " … operating system really. I mean truly. I mean it is running on Android, it does run" }, { "start": 616.76, "end": 623.48, "text": " on top of Linux so… and then on top of that you've got Dalvik or now for crazy people" }, { "start": 623.48, "end": 627.8, "text": " the whatever the heck it's called. Which actually I want to get into that." }, { "start": 627.8, "end": 629.1999999999999, "text": " ART, yeah." }, { "start": 629.1999999999999, "end": 632.8, "text": " ART. But before we get into ART and it's super good that you're good for ART here" }, { "start": 632.8, "end": 636.3599999999999, "text": " Evan, I interrupted you before, you said you hadn't tried this but you were about to" }, { "start": 636.3599999999999, "end": 638.3199999999999, "text": " say something else about CyanogenMod." }, { "start": 638.3199999999999, "end": 645.3199999999999, "text": " Yeah, no I have not tried this one click installer. I'm kind of curious about how CyanogenMod" }, { "start": 646.1999999999999, "end": 651.76, "text": " is going to posture like bundling exploits for phones because they're definitely not" }, { "start": 651.76, "end": 658.76, "text": " going to get permission to bootload or unlock phones especially from the phone itself. And" }, { "start": 660.72, "end": 663.92, "text": " like I said I have not used this one click installer but if they're actually including" }, { "start": 663.92, "end": 668.2, "text": " exploits with the APK and the Google Play store I'm pretty sure that violates the" }, { "start": 668.2, "end": 671.92, "text": " terms of service like hands down." }, { "start": 671.92, "end": 675.08, "text": " Well that might be one reason why it requires the Windows installer." }, { "start": 675.08, "end": 677.48, "text": " Yeah, I think that's probably the story." }, { "start": 677.48, "end": 682.48, "text": " Well there have been, by the same token there have been apps that require root in the Play" }, { "start": 682.48, "end": 685.8000000000001, "text": " store for ages, right?" }, { "start": 685.8000000000001, "end": 688.32, "text": " Right they don't actually root the phone for you." }, { "start": 688.32, "end": 691.32, "text": " No but they take, I mean they require an exploit in order to." }, { "start": 691.32, "end": 695.96, "text": " Actually there is a long history of Google Play root exploits but they get taken down" }, { "start": 695.96, "end": 697.88, "text": " pretty fast." }, { "start": 697.88, "end": 701.64, "text": " Do you guys remember when it was possible to jailbreak an iPhone by visiting a website?" }, { "start": 701.64, "end": 706.88, "text": " Oh it was like jailbreak.us or something?" }, { "start": 706.88, "end": 708.72, "text": " Those are the days." }, { "start": 708.72, "end": 715.72, "text": " But I've actually been using the latest snapshot of CyanogenMod on a G2 and shout out to Dan" }, { "start": 716.48, "end": 722.72, "text": " Rosenberg for being the most elite hacker ever for creating the Loki exploit. But kind" }, { "start": 722.72, "end": 729.24, "text": " of playing with this G2 hardware without the crime against humanity that is LG's skin" }, { "start": 729.24, "end": 734.84, "text": " kind of makes me think of what the Nexus 5 could have been if it weren't cut down for" }, { "start": 734.84, "end": 736.76, "text": " price reasons." }, { "start": 736.76, "end": 743.76, "text": " But Evan, you know what you can't exploit are the back buttons. There's no way to hack" }, { "start": 743.76, "end": 745.88, "text": " around the back buttons." }, { "start": 745.88, "end": 748.88, "text": " You can't get rid of those." }, { "start": 748.88, "end": 751.4399999999999, "text": " But does it have double tap to work?" }, { "start": 751.4399999999999, "end": 752.28, "text": " Hardware platforms." }, { "start": 752.28, "end": 754.68, "text": " Yeah does it have knock on? That's the big question." }, { "start": 754.68, "end": 756.88, "text": " It does still have knock on." }, { "start": 756.88, "end": 761.52, "text": " So there you go, he got around those back button issues." }, { "start": 761.52, "end": 767.12, "text": " It doesn't have knock off though so it's totally half baked." }, { "start": 767.12, "end": 769.24, "text": " Wait is knock off a real thing?" }, { "start": 769.24, "end": 771.0799999999999, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 771.0799999999999, "end": 772.36, "text": " I don't even remember." }, { "start": 772.36, "end": 775.64, "text": " I'm not sure what the official title of that feature is." }, { "start": 775.64, "end": 779.72, "text": " What does that mean? How do you double tap the screen to turn it off?" }, { "start": 779.72, "end": 783.72, "text": " I don't think that is an actual feature. I could be high and I could be wrong." }, { "start": 783.72, "end": 785.04, "text": " It's absolutely, it's 100%" }, { "start": 785.04, "end": 791.12, "text": " You double tap to turn it on and you shave in a haircut to turn it off." }, { "start": 791.12, "end": 798.12, "text": " But no, using Cyanogen Mod and the KitKat apps on this G2 actually makes me feel really" }, { "start": 799.8, "end": 804.68, "text": " good about the Nexus 5. I think they made exactly the right compromises to achieve the" }, { "start": 804.68, "end": 808.8, "text": " price point they wanted because the difference between the two and even the difference between" }, { "start": 808.8, "end": 813.8, "text": " the cameras, and I have used the camera a lot in the stock firmware, it's very negligible." }, { "start": 813.8, "end": 816.8, "text": " What? I don't think there's any" }, { "start": 816.8, "end": 823.8, "text": " I'm going to call your bluff there. The G2's camera is way better than the Nexus" }, { "start": 824.56, "end": 829.8399999999999, "text": " 5's camera. It's way faster, focuses faster, takes better pictures, it's a higher resolution" }, { "start": 829.8399999999999, "end": 835, "text": " for starters, but it's like night and day between those two." }, { "start": 835, "end": 841, "text": " Did you guys hear that? It was a shutter click. I hit the shutter button on the Nexus 5 before" }, { "start": 841, "end": 848, "text": " the podcast started and it just now took a picture." }, { "start": 848.32, "end": 852.04, "text": " They made those compromises to hit that price point and that's great if they wanted to" }, { "start": 852.04, "end": 856.96, "text": " hit that price point which they clearly did, but I would much rather have, if they want" }, { "start": 856.96, "end": 860.72, "text": " to do that to hit that price point, by all means go ahead and do that, but also give" }, { "start": 860.72, "end": 865.7, "text": " me a $500 or $550 Nexus phone that doesn't make those compromises because I would much" }, { "start": 865.7, "end": 867.88, "text": " rather buy that." }, { "start": 867.88, "end": 874.88, "text": " Yeah, I mean, I really, really don't think that the cameras have that much difference." }, { "start": 875.72, "end": 880.88, "text": " Maybe for a connoisseur who's used every phone and seen every camera." }, { "start": 880.88, "end": 885.76, "text": " Evan, you probably remember, we talked about this on the Virgcast last week. Neelai brought" }, { "start": 885.76, "end": 891.56, "text": " up the point that he doesn't think, as far as he knows, the sensors in most of these" }, { "start": 891.56, "end": 897.24, "text": " cameras including the Nexus phones are the same. It's that it's all done in software" }, { "start": 897.24, "end": 901.96, "text": " and Google isn't putting any time or effort into making the camera software in the Google" }, { "start": 901.96, "end": 905.28, "text": " experience formerly known as stock Android any good." }, { "start": 905.28, "end": 910.84, "text": " Now I believe that 100% because the stock app gives me unending focus problems, but" }, { "start": 910.84, "end": 915.72, "text": " just playing around in camera FV5, which is just one of my apps that I like for taking" }, { "start": 915.72, "end": 920.6, "text": " pictures, it locks the focus a lot better. I'm not sure if it just continues to focus" }, { "start": 920.6, "end": 926.96, "text": " until it does actually autofocus confirm or whether or not it actually can communicate" }, { "start": 926.96, "end": 932.0400000000001, "text": " better with that library file. The second is a little harder to believe, but the software" }, { "start": 932.0400000000001, "end": 936.9200000000001, "text": " definitely makes a difference. I'm getting way more good to pretty awesome shots out" }, { "start": 936.9200000000001, "end": 942.8000000000001, "text": " of FV5 and I have terrible problems with the stock app. Software makes a difference and" }, { "start": 942.8000000000001, "end": 946.44, "text": " the firmware makes a huge difference, but it's harder to extrapolate the differences" }, { "start": 946.44, "end": 947.6, "text": " between those." }, { "start": 947.6, "end": 953.48, "text": " Yeah, I haven't really had focal running on the Nexus 5 at all. If there are other" }, { "start": 953.48, "end": 957.48, "text": " good camera apps that I could try on the Nexus 5 to help alleviate it, I would totally do" }, { "start": 957.48, "end": 961.16, "text": " it, but it needs to talk to the firmware properly." }, { "start": 961.16, "end": 965.8000000000001, "text": " You know where there aren't any app compatibility problems is on the iPhone." }, { "start": 965.8000000000001, "end": 968.1800000000001, "text": " That's right." }, { "start": 968.1800000000001, "end": 972.04, "text": " And also you know where I consistently get some of the most amazing pictures I've ever" }, { "start": 972.04, "end": 977.22, "text": " taken with any camera, period, the 5S. I'm just putting that out there." }, { "start": 977.22, "end": 978.22, "text": " You're not wrong." }, { "start": 978.22, "end": 981.08, "text": " Yeah, you're definitely not wrong." }, { "start": 981.08, "end": 983.44, "text": " The 5S is $750 for phone." }, { "start": 983.44, "end": 984.44, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 984.44, "end": 991.84, "text": " Are we talking about just cameras in terms of like how much they matter to the consumer?" }, { "start": 991.84, "end": 999.0400000000001, "text": " Because we've seen a lot of discussion on whether or not having a slightly subpar camera" }, { "start": 999.0400000000001, "end": 1002.84, "text": " really ruins the Nexus 5, whether or not it actually ruins the overall product." }, { "start": 1002.84, "end": 1009.6, "text": " I think it matters hugely. I think when you look at Flickr, the number one camera on," }, { "start": 1009.6, "end": 1013.32, "text": " not camera phone, the number one camera on Flickr, actually like the top three cameras" }, { "start": 1013.32, "end": 1019.94, "text": " on Flickr are iPhones. Everybody takes photos with their smartphones and they take a lot" }, { "start": 1019.94, "end": 1025.9, "text": " of photos with their smartphones. Anecdotally, I've tried to give my wife phones that are" }, { "start": 1025.9, "end": 1031.32, "text": " not made by Apple time and time again and every single time they last a week and then" }, { "start": 1031.32, "end": 1035, "text": " she hands it back to me and wants her iPhone back because the picture quality and the speed" }, { "start": 1035, "end": 1038.68, "text": " is not up to par and not what she's used to." }, { "start": 1038.68, "end": 1044.04, "text": " Do you hide the iPhone in the meantime so she can't get it?" }, { "start": 1044.04, "end": 1051.68, "text": " And then she hides the Oreos and then they don't talk to each other." }, { "start": 1051.68, "end": 1054.8400000000001, "text": " She replaces all of the Oreos with candy corn Oreos." }, { "start": 1054.8400000000001, "end": 1055.92, "text": " No with hydroxids." }, { "start": 1055.92, "end": 1056.92, "text": " Oh, boy." }, { "start": 1056.92, "end": 1061.52, "text": " That would be an improvement. Hydroxids are way better than Oreos." }, { "start": 1061.52, "end": 1064.24, "text": " Oh, snap." }, { "start": 1064.24, "end": 1073.32, "text": " Look, I totally agree. I would love, in my dream world, Google would have pricing tiers" }, { "start": 1073.32, "end": 1080.52, "text": " for its unlocked direct to market phones. There would be a low end, a medium range and" }, { "start": 1080.52, "end": 1084.84, "text": " the Nexus line, as it stands today, probably qualifies as the medium range and then they" }, { "start": 1084.84, "end": 1090.52, "text": " would have an absolute no compromise high end experience that would slide in above the" }, { "start": 1090.52, "end": 1097.48, "text": " Nexus 5 and it would be best in class camera, but I guess everything else kind of is already" }, { "start": 1097.48, "end": 1102.52, "text": " in the best in class. You could make an argument for more premium materials, but the plastic" }, { "start": 1102.52, "end": 1105.44, "text": " that's on the Nexus is pretty good." }, { "start": 1105.44, "end": 1107.24, "text": " If you get the black one. The white one." }, { "start": 1107.24, "end": 1109.08, "text": " The white one has terrible plastic." }, { "start": 1109.08, "end": 1110.08, "text": " Does it?" }, { "start": 1110.08, "end": 1111.08, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1111.08, "end": 1112.08, "text": " It's just glossy." }, { "start": 1112.08, "end": 1115.24, "text": " It's not hardcore plastic, it's just plastic plastic." }, { "start": 1115.24, "end": 1123.2, "text": " It's got this glossy, you can see my fingerprints on it in a webcam. Let's just put it that" }, { "start": 1123.2, "end": 1128.1200000000001, "text": " way. It feels bad, man, but the black one feels nice." }, { "start": 1128.1200000000001, "end": 1136.88, "text": " Well, it makes you wonder if, you know, at this point in the Nexus's existence, if Google" }, { "start": 1136.88, "end": 1144, "text": " isn't very deliberately making room for Motorola to own a number of market segments that Nexus" }, { "start": 1144, "end": 1151.24, "text": " itself is not intended to. Clearly Google could if it wanted to make a high end, you" }, { "start": 1151.24, "end": 1155.32, "text": " know, no compromise Nexus. They could devote the resources that are needed to making better" }, { "start": 1155.32, "end": 1161.96, "text": " camera software, use better materials, etc. etc. They're not and maybe that's because" }, { "start": 1161.96, "end": 1168.32, "text": " they want Motorola to own those markets instead of cannibalizing their own sales." }, { "start": 1168.32, "end": 1172.44, "text": " Sounds like a recipe for a modular phone design to me." }, { "start": 1172.44, "end": 1177.1200000000001, "text": " Yeah. I forgot about RL already. What does that say about RL?" }, { "start": 1177.1200000000001, "end": 1183.64, "text": " Wow. That's, I mean, you know, it's been a week, two weeks I guess since they unveiled" }, { "start": 1183.64, "end": 1186.52, "text": " it. It'll be a long time before we see anything." }, { "start": 1186.52, "end": 1188.6000000000001, "text": " Yeah, it's all concepts right now." }, { "start": 1188.6000000000001, "end": 1189.6000000000001, "text": " It's all dreams." }, { "start": 1189.6000000000001, "end": 1199.4, "text": " Okay, so we brought up, we were joking about CyanogenMod OS and then we made the joke about" }, { "start": 1199.4, "end": 1203.0800000000002, "text": " what is an OS and then, so there's Linux and then there's Android running on Linux and" }, { "start": 1203.0800000000002, "end": 1207.24, "text": " then the apps are run with this thing called Dalvik which basically like looks a lot like" }, { "start": 1207.24, "end": 1212.6000000000001, "text": " Java but isn't Java and so Google didn't get sued completely into the ground over it. But" }, { "start": 1212.6000000000001, "end": 1217.3600000000001, "text": " now there's a new thing that is the app engine called the Android Runtime. Is this, have" }, { "start": 1217.3600000000001, "end": 1218.3600000000001, "text": " I got this right?" }, { "start": 1218.3600000000001, "end": 1219.3600000000001, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 1219.3600000000001, "end": 1224.96, "text": " Is that summary right? What is the Android Runtime? Why do I care? Why can't I just like" }, { "start": 1224.96, "end": 1227.88, "text": " stick with Dalvik? Like it's a thing that a developer can turn on and apparently it" }, { "start": 1227.88, "end": 1232.8000000000002, "text": " breaks things but it's the way of apps going forward. Why are they changing it? Somebody" }, { "start": 1232.8000000000002, "end": 1234.5, "text": " know?" }, { "start": 1234.5, "end": 1244.4, "text": " So my understanding is that it's kind of two different ways to do the actual compiling" }, { "start": 1244.4, "end": 1252.5600000000002, "text": " of the app. So the way I understand it and this is all pretty low level stuff but Dalvik" }, { "start": 1252.56, "end": 1260.32, "text": " uses a just in time compiler to compile a lot of the Android code on the fly and you" }, { "start": 1260.32, "end": 1266.32, "text": " know that works great. It works great on a quad core device at like 2.2 gigahertz but" }, { "start": 1266.32, "end": 1272.12, "text": " the way ART works is that more of that code is actually compiled at the installation of" }, { "start": 1272.12, "end": 1278.12, "text": " the app and the significantly more or marginally increased portion is actually compiled to" }, { "start": 1278.12, "end": 1284.28, "text": " native code at the introduction of the app. So it's two different styles and there's" }, { "start": 1284.28, "end": 1291.02, "text": " been a lot of research on Reddit and XDA developers on whether one actually yields higher performance" }, { "start": 1291.02, "end": 1296.08, "text": " than the other and from everything that I've seen it's kind of a wash because like in some" }, { "start": 1296.08, "end": 1301.6799999999998, "text": " situations and for some types of apps ART works really well and provides like better" }, { "start": 1301.6799999999998, "end": 1307.52, "text": " performance and lower power usage at those performance levels and some applications just" }, { "start": 1307.52, "end": 1312.36, "text": " work differently and just have been pretty well tuned for the Dalvik engine. So for right" }, { "start": 1312.36, "end": 1314.48, "text": " now it seems like a wash." }, { "start": 1314.48, "end": 1319.76, "text": " You can understand and I don't know if XDA research bears this out or not but it stands" }, { "start": 1319.76, "end": 1328.76, "text": " to reason that things like ultra high performance games would do better with as much pre-compiling" }, { "start": 1328.76, "end": 1332.52, "text": " as possible. Pre-compiling isn't the right term. Being a computer scientist I know for" }, { "start": 1332.52, "end": 1338.28, "text": " a fact that pre-compiling is not the right term but compiling before it reaches the JIT" }, { "start": 1338.28, "end": 1344.8, "text": " compiler makes more sense for something like a game right. Whereas I guess other kinds" }, { "start": 1344.8, "end": 1347.8, "text": " of apps it doesn't necessarily matter." }, { "start": 1347.8, "end": 1351.48, "text": " At this point it's still really early on. You have to go into developer settings, you" }, { "start": 1351.48, "end": 1358.24, "text": " have to enable it, it's not enabled by default. Very few people know it exists or know that" }, { "start": 1358.24, "end": 1363.28, "text": " it's there and frankly unless the developer has a Nexus 5 they don't even have access" }, { "start": 1363.28, "end": 1365.44, "text": " to it yet." }, { "start": 1365.44, "end": 1369.84, "text": " And Google doesn't actually want anybody to like really genuinely make production apps" }, { "start": 1369.84, "end": 1372.56, "text": " with this. It's just like a thing they're trying out." }, { "start": 1372.56, "end": 1382.68, "text": " Right I think that Google made a big to do about how KitKat is going to be running on" }, { "start": 1382.68, "end": 1388.3600000000001, "text": " lower end hardware, less powerful stuff and you know ART might be the thing that enables" }, { "start": 1388.3600000000001, "end": 1394.72, "text": " that if it allows the processor to do less work at the time that the app is launching" }, { "start": 1394.72, "end": 1402.3200000000002, "text": " or running then you know it's better all around. I'm just not surprised that we're not seeing" }, { "start": 1402.3200000000002, "end": 1406.8400000000001, "text": " huge performance gains right now. Apps haven't really been optimized to use it. The feature" }, { "start": 1406.8400000000001, "end": 1411.92, "text": " itself probably isn't fully baked and fully complete yet." }, { "start": 1411.92, "end": 1418.3200000000002, "text": " Well it's not, the way I understand it is that the actual compiling happens at the installation" }, { "start": 1418.3200000000002, "end": 1425.5600000000002, "text": " of the app so like I don't think there's a huge possibility for runtime performance gains" }, { "start": 1425.5600000000002, "end": 1430.88, "text": " but I do think that you know a lot of people complain about the stutteriness and lagginess" }, { "start": 1430.88, "end": 1436.16, "text": " of Android and you know as someone who uses Android all the time and iOS like it's definitely" }, { "start": 1436.16, "end": 1446.2, "text": " there it's not made up but if you're compiling lots of portions of the code at runtime, as" }, { "start": 1446.2, "end": 1450.88, "text": " the pieces become available you know some of those are going to lag behind others but" }, { "start": 1450.88, "end": 1456.46, "text": " if a lot of the code is natively compiled and doesn't need to be compiled again or compiled" }, { "start": 1456.46, "end": 1463.2, "text": " at runtime then as those resources become available it should be a lot smoother. So" }, { "start": 1463.2, "end": 1471.04, "text": " I don't know about lower end devices but hopefully this could yield some smoothness gains that" }, { "start": 1471.04, "end": 1475.2, "text": " would be well received." }, { "start": 1475.2, "end": 1479.44, "text": " Thank you, now I understand but the gist is…" }, { "start": 1479.44, "end": 1485.16, "text": " Not now, ain't happening now." }, { "start": 1485.16, "end": 1492.06, "text": " I guess so like Moto G is coming, we've seen rumors I think last night Wall Street" }, { "start": 1492.06, "end": 1499.8, "text": " Journal teased or like leaked something, they said it was going to be cheap, what else have" }, { "start": 1499.8, "end": 1501.6399999999999, "text": " we seen about this?" }, { "start": 1501.6399999999999, "end": 1504.32, "text": " They said it's going to be under $250 right?" }, { "start": 1504.32, "end": 1509.72, "text": " Yeah that's what Wall Street Journal said, no there was a retail promotion card that" }, { "start": 1509.72, "end": 1511.28, "text": " leaked that had specs on it." }, { "start": 1511.28, "end": 1514.24, "text": " And we've seen pictures of it right?" }, { "start": 1514.24, "end": 1516, "text": " It looks just like a Moto X." }, { "start": 1516, "end": 1523, "text": " I'm looking at our pictures now and yeah." }, { "start": 1523, "end": 1530.6, "text": " The concept of making two identical phones in your lineup that are at different price" }, { "start": 1530.6, "end": 1537.48, "text": " points is pretty novel. The closest analog I can think of is the Galaxy Note and the" }, { "start": 1537.48, "end": 1545.76, "text": " Galaxy Mega but it's pretty rare for OEMs to do this right?" }, { "start": 1545.76, "end": 1550.28, "text": " Yeah to not make the cheaper one look cheap." }, { "start": 1550.28, "end": 1557.8799999999999, "text": " The only thing I can think of is Apple with the iPhone 4, the 4S and then…" }, { "start": 1557.8799999999999, "end": 1559.92, "text": " The 5S and the 5C." }, { "start": 1559.92, "end": 1564.52, "text": " But even though it looks, based on what we've seen of the Moto G versus the Moto X, the" }, { "start": 1564.52, "end": 1569.52, "text": " 5S and the 5C look further apart aesthetically than the G and the X." }, { "start": 1569.52, "end": 1574.52, "text": " And also the 5C is still very expensive." }, { "start": 1574.52, "end": 1581.76, "text": " So they are announcing it tomorrow as we record this so I guess we will find out more." }, { "start": 1581.76, "end": 1583.48, "text": " In Brazil right?" }, { "start": 1583.48, "end": 1584.48, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1584.48, "end": 1585.76, "text": " In Rio?" }, { "start": 1585.76, "end": 1590.16, "text": " Is this supposed to come stateside?" }, { "start": 1590.16, "end": 1593.08, "text": " I mean who knows?" }, { "start": 1593.08, "end": 1599.8, "text": " If everything pans out with the cost, if the Wall Street Journal's predictions are correct" }, { "start": 1599.8, "end": 1603.92, "text": " and this is going to be a phone that's going to sell for under $250, I don't think the" }, { "start": 1603.92, "end": 1607.48, "text": " US is the market that Motorola will be targeting with it." }, { "start": 1607.48, "end": 1614.02, "text": " It is the emerging markets, it is Latin America, it is Asia, it is Europe, it is all the areas" }, { "start": 1614.02, "end": 1618.18, "text": " where smartphone penetration isn't over 50%." }, { "start": 1618.18, "end": 1621.48, "text": " And there's a lot of people that have not upgraded from a feature phone just because" }, { "start": 1621.48, "end": 1625.4, "text": " the sheer cost of ownership." }, { "start": 1625.4, "end": 1630.76, "text": " And you know, Nokia has been in that market for a long time and they've had their Asha" }, { "start": 1630.76, "end": 1634.96, "text": " lines and things like that and then there's of course the Chinese companies that have" }, { "start": 1634.96, "end": 1639.08, "text": " built Android phones in the past couple of years that have entered that market." }, { "start": 1639.08, "end": 1644.8, "text": " But you know, all these phone companies talk about the next billion users or whatever and" }, { "start": 1644.8, "end": 1649.24, "text": " I think that if this thing turns out to be the price that it's been predicted at and" }, { "start": 1649.24, "end": 1653.12, "text": " it's got the features that it's predicted to have, then that's Motorola's play for" }, { "start": 1653.12, "end": 1655.64, "text": " the next billion users." }, { "start": 1655.64, "end": 1658.52, "text": " I can't wait to not hear about the next billion users anymore." }, { "start": 1658.52, "end": 1663, "text": " I swear I've been hearing about it for five years now." }, { "start": 1663, "end": 1670.16, "text": " I just want everybody to be given a smartphone at birth and then we'll all…" }, { "start": 1670.16, "end": 1675.8, "text": " I mean I suppose the next billion users is a little bit of a reach." }, { "start": 1675.8, "end": 1679.8799999999999, "text": " It's probably like the next 500,000 users because in that same Wall Street Journal article" }, { "start": 1679.8799999999999, "end": 1683.48, "text": " they said only about 500,000 Moto X's have been sold." }, { "start": 1683.48, "end": 1690.6, "text": " Well they were quoting like strategy analytics or something, weren't they?" }, { "start": 1690.6, "end": 1695.2, "text": " Yeah I think they were recording some research but I mean it's kind of been apparent that" }, { "start": 1695.2, "end": 1699.76, "text": " the Moto X has not exactly sold well but the price has now dropped." }, { "start": 1699.76, "end": 1706.76, "text": " It's 99 and then everybody else moved along to 99." }, { "start": 1706.76, "end": 1710.84, "text": " Yeah but you know broader availability of Moto Maker, the price drop, maybe it will" }, { "start": 1710.84, "end": 1713.08, "text": " get a little kick in the pants before the holidays." }, { "start": 1713.08, "end": 1728.72, "text": " Actually, answer me this, other than the original Droid, maybe the Galaxy S3, has there been" }, { "start": 1728.72, "end": 1733.9199999999998, "text": " a phone that is like alternative to the iPhone for real and a marketing campaign that hinted" }, { "start": 1733.9199999999998, "end": 1738, "text": " at that that actually like really took off." }, { "start": 1738, "end": 1742.84, "text": " I mean the Galaxy S3, I mean it wasn't directly marketed in that way but that's what it" }, { "start": 1742.84, "end": 1743.84, "text": " worked out to be." }, { "start": 1743.84, "end": 1745.84, "text": " What do you mean it totally was?" }, { "start": 1745.84, "end": 1749, "text": " It was totally marketed as being the iPhone." }, { "start": 1749, "end": 1752.36, "text": " All of Samsung's ads about the people lining up in front of the Apple store, they couldn't" }, { "start": 1752.36, "end": 1754.28, "text": " do all the cool things that the Samsung could." }, { "start": 1754.28, "end": 1760.6, "text": " I know but like were they hyping it or were they just like selling the phone like straight" }, { "start": 1760.6, "end": 1763.9199999999998, "text": " up like I'm talking about like the Droid launch like hype." }, { "start": 1763.9199999999998, "end": 1768, "text": " Like everybody knew the Galaxy S3 was coming, we all knew what it was going to be and it" }, { "start": 1768, "end": 1772.08, "text": " was fine, it was great but there wasn't like here's the phone that's going to remake" }, { "start": 1772.08, "end": 1773.1599999999999, "text": " this company." }, { "start": 1773.1599999999999, "end": 1778.6, "text": " The Droid did that, Palm tried to do that, it didn't do so hot, Moto X has tried to" }, { "start": 1778.6, "end": 1781.82, "text": " do that, lots of Lumias have tried to do that now." }, { "start": 1781.82, "end": 1785.6799999999998, "text": " It seems like every time we see a phone that's like this is a big last great hope for this" }, { "start": 1785.6799999999998, "end": 1789.84, "text": " company to take on the iPhone, it doesn't do so well." }, { "start": 1789.84, "end": 1792.84, "text": " With Samsung it was like yeah it's Samsung, they're going to sell it to them." }, { "start": 1792.84, "end": 1795.24, "text": " Well that wasn't proven before the Galaxy S3." }, { "start": 1795.24, "end": 1798.84, "text": " I mean they sold a lot of Galaxy S2's." }, { "start": 1798.84, "end": 1804.32, "text": " The Galaxy S2 did well but it didn't do iPhone well and Samsung didn't run with Apple at" }, { "start": 1804.32, "end": 1810.9199999999998, "text": " being the top smartphone maker in the world until the Galaxy S3 and then the Galaxy S4." }, { "start": 1810.9199999999998, "end": 1814.6799999999998, "text": " So what's the Galaxy S4 doing?" }, { "start": 1814.6799999999998, "end": 1818, "text": " Honestly I'm not up to speed on the latest numbers but I'm sure it's selling." }, { "start": 1818, "end": 1820.9599999999998, "text": " How's the Galaxy S4 doing, is that what you asked?" }, { "start": 1820.9599999999998, "end": 1826.6, "text": " I'm sure they've sold 11 trillion of them." }, { "start": 1826.6, "end": 1831, "text": " I see them on the streets now, it took a while but I see them out." }, { "start": 1831, "end": 1832.48, "text": " They're everywhere." }, { "start": 1832.48, "end": 1838.04, "text": " It takes a minute to recognize it though from the GS3." }, { "start": 1838.04, "end": 1841.24, "text": " I still see a lot of GS3's but I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that the" }, { "start": 1841.24, "end": 1845.6, "text": " GS3 is still being sold and it's like 50 bucks or 100 bucks when you sign a contract" }, { "start": 1845.6, "end": 1846.6, "text": " now." }, { "start": 1846.6, "end": 1854.4399999999998, "text": " I mean Samsung totally bought into the Apple playbook of selling last year's model at" }, { "start": 1854.4399999999998, "end": 1855.4399999999998, "text": " a discount." }, { "start": 1855.44, "end": 1858.04, "text": " I'm sure they'll do the same thing with the S4." }, { "start": 1858.04, "end": 1866.44, "text": " So speaking of trying to recognize the Galaxy S4 from a distance, I haven't had this actually" }, { "start": 1866.44, "end": 1871.92, "text": " happen, but how often are you riding public transit and you're staring at somebody's" }, { "start": 1871.92, "end": 1875.1200000000001, "text": " phone and then they think that you're staring at them and then you're like, no, no, no," }, { "start": 1875.1200000000001, "end": 1877.48, "text": " I'm just looking at your phone." }, { "start": 1877.48, "end": 1880.76, "text": " But you actually are but then you're a creeper." }, { "start": 1880.76, "end": 1884.56, "text": " Every time I see a smartphone in public, every time I'm like making sure I can identify" }, { "start": 1884.56, "end": 1892.48, "text": " it and especially with the Samsung phones, it takes a second and I'm becoming that" }, { "start": 1892.48, "end": 1896.48, "text": " guy on the subway that is kind of staring." }, { "start": 1896.48, "end": 1897.8, "text": " I don't want to see what's on your phone." }, { "start": 1897.8, "end": 1899.8, "text": " I don't care that you're playing Candy Crush Saga." }, { "start": 1899.8, "end": 1901.8999999999999, "text": " I just want to know what phone you're playing it on." }, { "start": 1901.8999999999999, "end": 1907.96, "text": " So let me just say that A, this is me 100% of the time when I take public transit and" }, { "start": 1907.96, "end": 1914.8400000000001, "text": " B, my favorite game is to play which imported Sony is that because it is a hard one." }, { "start": 1914.8400000000001, "end": 1918.48, "text": " How many imported Sonys are you seeing on the subway, Evan?" }, { "start": 1918.48, "end": 1919.48, "text": " Are you kidding me?" }, { "start": 1919.48, "end": 1920.7, "text": " Are you even kidding me?" }, { "start": 1920.7, "end": 1922.1200000000001, "text": " There are so many." }, { "start": 1922.1200000000001, "end": 1925.3400000000001, "text": " First of all, Sony sells so many cool phones overseas." }, { "start": 1925.3400000000001, "end": 1926.3400000000001, "text": " We get nothing." }, { "start": 1926.3400000000001, "end": 1928.78, "text": " It is so dry here for Sony phones." }, { "start": 1928.78, "end": 1930, "text": " Come on, guys." }, { "start": 1930, "end": 1935.92, "text": " But also, they sell lots of phones at lower price points overseas and they just get in" }, { "start": 1935.92, "end": 1936.92, "text": " here." }, { "start": 1936.92, "end": 1939.76, "text": " I like Sony phones a lot, even the lower end ones." }, { "start": 1939.76, "end": 1943.76, "text": " So that's why I notice for sure but I see them all the time." }, { "start": 1943.76, "end": 1946.44, "text": " I'm looking for them but I see them all the time." }, { "start": 1946.44, "end": 1949.72, "text": " Back to Dieter's point, yeah, I do the exact same thing." }, { "start": 1949.72, "end": 1954.68, "text": " I think what it is is like I've gotten really used to doing the quick look and then the" }, { "start": 1954.68, "end": 1955.76, "text": " look away." }, { "start": 1955.76, "end": 1958.6000000000001, "text": " This is like so, these are like creeper tactics." }, { "start": 1958.6000000000001, "end": 1963.72, "text": " Let's talk about creeping on the subway." }, { "start": 1963.72, "end": 1967.44, "text": " So you just got to look by a few times." }, { "start": 1967.44, "end": 1972.92, "text": " I do it too but because I look homeless, the additional danger is that everyone thinks" }, { "start": 1972.92, "end": 1975.08, "text": " that I'm about to steal their phone." }, { "start": 1975.08, "end": 1981.04, "text": " So I need to say, no, no, ma'am, I'm not about to grab your phone out of your hand." }, { "start": 1981.04, "end": 1985, "text": " I'm just wondering what phone you're using." }, { "start": 1985, "end": 1989.72, "text": " I have people like straight up ask me like there was this one guy that saw that I had" }, { "start": 1989.72, "end": 1995.32, "text": " the HTC One before it was actually released in the US, it had been released in Europe" }, { "start": 1995.32, "end": 1998.2, "text": " and he was like, how did you get that?" }, { "start": 1998.2, "end": 1999.2, "text": " Let me look at it." }, { "start": 1999.2, "end": 2000.8, "text": " I was like, whoa, there it is." }, { "start": 2000.8, "end": 2004.06, "text": " Just look at it from over there." }, { "start": 2004.06, "end": 2005.06, "text": " But it wasn't so bad." }, { "start": 2005.06, "end": 2008.52, "text": " Like somebody saw the Nexus 5, they asked about the Nexus 5, that was cool." }, { "start": 2008.52, "end": 2012.44, "text": " So maybe instead of just like, what kind of phone is that?" }, { "start": 2012.44, "end": 2014.84, "text": " I should just ask, what kind of phone is that?" }, { "start": 2014.84, "end": 2018, "text": " And then the thing will be over and they'll know I'm not a creeper." }, { "start": 2018, "end": 2022.12, "text": " The difference is when some guy asks you what kind of phone it is because it's like some" }, { "start": 2022.12, "end": 2027.12, "text": " unreleased phone, it's like one tech nerd asking another tech nerd." }, { "start": 2027.12, "end": 2032.82, "text": " Whereas if you just ask the poor lady on the subway, it's like a tech nerd asking someone" }, { "start": 2032.82, "end": 2033.82, "text": " who probably like doesn't care." }, { "start": 2033.82, "end": 2034.82, "text": " Come on, you don't know that." }, { "start": 2034.82, "end": 2035.82, "text": " She could be a tech nerd." }, { "start": 2035.82, "end": 2039.28, "text": " Yeah, you're right, she could be." }, { "start": 2039.28, "end": 2046, "text": " Whatever, this whole plan would involve actually talking to people." }, { "start": 2046, "end": 2047.56, "text": " Yeah, that is not happening." }, { "start": 2047.56, "end": 2048.56, "text": " That's terrifying." }, { "start": 2048.56, "end": 2056.68, "text": " What you do is you just subtweet about them and see maybe if they see your tweets." }, { "start": 2056.68, "end": 2059.96, "text": " I should just take pictures and tweet them anonymously so they don't let them know that" }, { "start": 2059.96, "end": 2060.96, "text": " I'm doing it." }, { "start": 2060.96, "end": 2062.96, "text": " That's exactly what I should do." }, { "start": 2062.96, "end": 2064.84, "text": " Yes, yes." }, { "start": 2064.84, "end": 2070.32, "text": " Before Sony's were my jam, creeping on Lumia owners was my jam because like they look very" }, { "start": 2070.32, "end": 2072.08, "text": " similar, it's also very hard." }, { "start": 2072.08, "end": 2073.08, "text": " What?" }, { "start": 2073.08, "end": 2075.4, "text": " Oh, I thought you meant Lumia's to Sony's." }, { "start": 2075.4, "end": 2078.6800000000003, "text": " Or do all Lumia owners look the same, is that what you're saying?" }, { "start": 2078.6800000000003, "end": 2084.2000000000003, "text": " No, no, no, no, I'm just saying my old jam was to try and find out which candy colored" }, { "start": 2084.2000000000003, "end": 2085.52, "text": " Lumia people had." }, { "start": 2085.52, "end": 2089.04, "text": " Right, fair enough, fair enough." }, { "start": 2089.04, "end": 2091, "text": " Because that's rare." }, { "start": 2091, "end": 2094.7200000000003, "text": " Actually, I can't make this transition work." }, { "start": 2094.7200000000003, "end": 2095.86, "text": " You know what else is creepy?" }, { "start": 2095.86, "end": 2098, "text": " People talking on the phone on the plane." }, { "start": 2098, "end": 2100, "text": " That looks creepy." }, { "start": 2100, "end": 2104.12, "text": " Yeah, it's seriously going to be the downfall of Western civilization." }, { "start": 2104.12, "end": 2106.64, "text": " Well, it's not going to happen." }, { "start": 2106.64, "end": 2112.7599999999998, "text": " I think that if airlines dare to turn this feature on, and I don't think that they will," }, { "start": 2112.7599999999998, "end": 2117.96, "text": " but if they do, I think that it will end up being perceived as a security issue in the" }, { "start": 2117.96, "end": 2122.08, "text": " FAA or you know, someone will shut it down." }, { "start": 2122.08, "end": 2123.08, "text": " A security issue?" }, { "start": 2123.08, "end": 2124.08, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2124.08, "end": 2132.24, "text": " Guys, I'm sorry, I just got five emails about CES and Marissa Mayer is speaking there." }, { "start": 2132.24, "end": 2133.24, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 2133.24, "end": 2139.52, "text": " Marissa Mayer is delivering the keynote address at this year's CES." }, { "start": 2139.52, "end": 2141.7999999999997, "text": " No, no, it's Kaz Harai." }, { "start": 2141.7999999999997, "end": 2142.7999999999997, "text": " Nope." }, { "start": 2142.7999999999997, "end": 2144.7599999999998, "text": " Yeah, it is." }, { "start": 2144.7599999999998, "end": 2148.64, "text": " Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer to deliver keynote address at 2014 International CES." }, { "start": 2148.64, "end": 2149.64, "text": " Well, I guess." }, { "start": 2149.64, "end": 2152.8399999999997, "text": " A keynote or the keynote?" }, { "start": 2152.8399999999997, "end": 2158.9199999999996, "text": " Yeah, like the traditional big Bill Gates one is Kaz Harai." }, { "start": 2158.9199999999996, "end": 2160.3999999999996, "text": " This is the Tuesday keynote." }, { "start": 2160.4, "end": 2164.2400000000002, "text": " I'm sorry, I totally derailed this, but I just got so many CES emails and that makes" }, { "start": 2164.2400000000002, "end": 2165.2400000000002, "text": " me sad." }, { "start": 2165.2400000000002, "end": 2169.12, "text": " Yeah, CES is coming up so fast." }, { "start": 2169.12, "end": 2171.44, "text": " Yes, yeah, yes it is." }, { "start": 2171.44, "end": 2177.84, "text": " But to return to the phone on airplanes question, like how is it any different than a bus?" }, { "start": 2177.84, "end": 2180.2000000000003, "text": " People are on their phones on the bus all the time." }, { "start": 2180.2000000000003, "end": 2184.6800000000003, "text": " It drives me nuts." }, { "start": 2184.68, "end": 2191.2, "text": " The difference on a bus and a plane is on a bus you can get up and move to another seat." }, { "start": 2191.2, "end": 2194.16, "text": " Or you can get off and get the next bus." }, { "start": 2194.16, "end": 2195.3399999999997, "text": " I guess that's true." }, { "start": 2195.3399999999997, "end": 2201, "text": " Or you can sit in a pool of urine, you can do that on a bus also." }, { "start": 2201, "end": 2206, "text": " I mean you can do that on a plane as well, but much more difficult to negotiate." }, { "start": 2206, "end": 2209.52, "text": " Not as common." }, { "start": 2209.52, "end": 2214.2, "text": " I personally don't think it would bother me that much, but I can see how being in a closed" }, { "start": 2214.2, "end": 2215.2, "text": " space." }, { "start": 2215.2, "end": 2220.3199999999997, "text": " As somebody who takes a commuter train pretty often, when there's somebody who's gabbing" }, { "start": 2220.3199999999997, "end": 2224.12, "text": " on the phone, it gets to the point where I will get up and move to a different part of" }, { "start": 2224.12, "end": 2225.48, "text": " the train." }, { "start": 2225.48, "end": 2228.08, "text": " And like on a plane you can't do that." }, { "start": 2228.08, "end": 2231.2, "text": " Why don't you just go to a quiet car?" }, { "start": 2231.2, "end": 2237.7999999999997, "text": " There's only like ever one quiet car and it's like packed." }, { "start": 2237.7999999999997, "end": 2241.64, "text": " There should be a quiet car on the plane." }, { "start": 2241.64, "end": 2243.12, "text": " I believe that's called first class." }, { "start": 2243.12, "end": 2248.7999999999997, "text": " So how much do you think a text on a plane is going to cost?" }, { "start": 2248.7999999999997, "end": 2250.8399999999997, "text": " Probably like a dollar or something." }, { "start": 2250.8399999999997, "end": 2253.3199999999997, "text": " I bet you it's a buck fifty." }, { "start": 2253.3199999999997, "end": 2254.3199999999997, "text": " Easy." }, { "start": 2254.3199999999997, "end": 2255.3199999999997, "text": " Buck fifty easy." }, { "start": 2255.3199999999997, "end": 2256.3199999999997, "text": " Sounds about right." }, { "start": 2256.3199999999997, "end": 2257.3199999999997, "text": " That's so stupid." }, { "start": 2257.3199999999997, "end": 2258.3199999999997, "text": " Per text?" }, { "start": 2258.3199999999997, "end": 2259.3199999999997, "text": " It's wifi." }, { "start": 2259.3199999999997, "end": 2264.24, "text": " They just can't price it at that." }, { "start": 2264.24, "end": 2268.7599999999998, "text": " People would go insane getting like $400 texting." }, { "start": 2268.76, "end": 2273.28, "text": " I don't know Evan, they have no problem charging you $22 for an hour and a half of wifi access" }, { "start": 2273.28, "end": 2275.4, "text": " that probably won't work." }, { "start": 2275.4, "end": 2277.2000000000003, "text": " Yes, well that's true." }, { "start": 2277.2000000000003, "end": 2281.5600000000004, "text": " What do you think a text costs when you travel to Europe?" }, { "start": 2281.5600000000004, "end": 2286.0800000000004, "text": " I think it costs 25 cents per text message you receive." }, { "start": 2286.0800000000004, "end": 2289, "text": " I still have that guide up." }, { "start": 2289, "end": 2295.46, "text": " Well speaking of, I'm going to completely derail the conversation now." }, { "start": 2295.46, "end": 2300.54, "text": " But speaking of traveling to Europe, so I've been testing, you know Republic Wireless is" }, { "start": 2300.54, "end": 2304.76, "text": " releasing the Moto X this week, which is what I've been testing the past few days." }, { "start": 2304.76, "end": 2308.2400000000002, "text": " I'm going to write something up on it." }, { "start": 2308.2400000000002, "end": 2315.08, "text": " The most compelling use case I think for the service for someone who already has another" }, { "start": 2315.08, "end": 2324.2, "text": " like main line is you buy the $5 a month wifi only service and then that's your Europe phone." }, { "start": 2324.2, "end": 2329.72, "text": " Because you can connect to any wifi hotspot and you just use it like a phone and you get" }, { "start": 2329.72, "end": 2330.72, "text": " unlimited texting." }, { "start": 2330.72, "end": 2331.72, "text": " And it's $5." }, { "start": 2331.72, "end": 2334.9199999999996, "text": " It's a no brainer." }, { "start": 2334.9199999999996, "end": 2335.9199999999996, "text": " It's pretty sweet." }, { "start": 2335.9199999999996, "end": 2336.9199999999996, "text": " Yeah, yeah." }, { "start": 2336.9199999999996, "end": 2340.4399999999996, "text": " And it works great." }, { "start": 2340.4399999999996, "end": 2347.4199999999996, "text": " It's weird, they do some weird voodoo to make the connections for the phone calls and somehow" }, { "start": 2347.42, "end": 2354.32, "text": " it's actually faster to connect to somebody using Republic Wireless than it is with a" }, { "start": 2354.32, "end": 2355.32, "text": " regular phone." }, { "start": 2355.32, "end": 2360.36, "text": " Like if I dial a number and I'm on wifi, the second I hit send it's ringing." }, { "start": 2360.36, "end": 2361.36, "text": " It's really weird." }, { "start": 2361.36, "end": 2363.4, "text": " It's kind of creepy." }, { "start": 2363.4, "end": 2365.4, "text": " But it would be a perfect Europe phone." }, { "start": 2365.4, "end": 2366.7200000000003, "text": " A perfect travel device." }, { "start": 2366.7200000000003, "end": 2372.8, "text": " And if you're using a Republic Wireless phone as your main phone, if you get the $10 plan" }, { "start": 2372.8, "end": 2378.6000000000004, "text": " which adds cellular in the US, then boom, you just take it over there." }, { "start": 2378.6000000000004, "end": 2383.28, "text": " They don't have any cellular agreements for roaming in Europe but any wifi hotspot, you" }, { "start": 2383.28, "end": 2386.2000000000003, "text": " got your regular phone number." }, { "start": 2386.2000000000003, "end": 2387.2000000000003, "text": " That's pretty cool." }, { "start": 2387.2000000000003, "end": 2389.4, "text": " $5 a month wifi phone." }, { "start": 2389.4, "end": 2391.7200000000003, "text": " Is Republic CDMA or GSM?" }, { "start": 2391.7200000000003, "end": 2392.7200000000003, "text": " CDMA." }, { "start": 2392.7200000000003, "end": 2396.0800000000004, "text": " Yeah, so you can't roam at all." }, { "start": 2396.08, "end": 2403.12, "text": " Well, does the Moto X have, do the CDMA models of the Moto X have GSM?" }, { "start": 2403.12, "end": 2405.92, "text": " I believe that they do not." }, { "start": 2405.92, "end": 2412.36, "text": " I think that Verizon requires that all of its phones be able to roam on GSM." }, { "start": 2412.36, "end": 2414.36, "text": " To be world-famous now?" }, { "start": 2414.36, "end": 2415.36, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2415.36, "end": 2416.36, "text": " No." }, { "start": 2416.36, "end": 2423.6, "text": " But regardless, Republic doesn't have any roaming agreements so it's irrelevant." }, { "start": 2423.6, "end": 2426.6, "text": " Interesting." }, { "start": 2426.6, "end": 2428.3199999999997, "text": " Yeah it looks like the Sprint model." }, { "start": 2428.3199999999997, "end": 2435.2, "text": " Is it irrelevant if you can put just a foreign SIM in it and then it works?" }, { "start": 2435.2, "end": 2438.4, "text": " That's true but the phone is locked to Republic." }, { "start": 2438.4, "end": 2442.4, "text": " Ah, yes." }, { "start": 2442.4, "end": 2446.68, "text": " Do you have the, hold on, I don't know." }, { "start": 2446.68, "end": 2448.08, "text": " I don't know what's going on with this Moto X." }, { "start": 2448.08, "end": 2449.08, "text": " I can't tell." }, { "start": 2449.08, "end": 2451.52, "text": " There's so many variants in this, I can't tell which one's actually." }, { "start": 2451.52, "end": 2453.56, "text": " Are you using mine, Evan?" }, { "start": 2453.56, "end": 2454.56, "text": " What?" }, { "start": 2454.56, "end": 2455.56, "text": " Are you using mine?" }, { "start": 2455.56, "end": 2456.56, "text": " No." }, { "start": 2456.56, "end": 2457.56, "text": " Is that my Moto X?" }, { "start": 2457.56, "end": 2458.56, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 2458.56, "end": 2459.56, "text": " No." }, { "start": 2459.56, "end": 2460.56, "text": " What happened to my Moto X?" }, { "start": 2460.56, "end": 2462.56, "text": " Chris has so many Moto X's he doesn't even know where they went." }, { "start": 2462.56, "end": 2463.56, "text": " I think it's just in the studio, honestly." }, { "start": 2463.56, "end": 2465.6, "text": " You guys are in completely different states." }, { "start": 2465.6, "end": 2468.36, "text": " How can Evan have your..." }, { "start": 2468.36, "end": 2469.36, "text": " Well I gave..." }, { "start": 2469.36, "end": 2473.4, "text": " Chris just leaves them around, he travels around the country, leaves Moto X's behind." }, { "start": 2473.4, "end": 2476.24, "text": " He's like the Johnny Appleseed of Motorola." }, { "start": 2476.24, "end": 2479.08, "text": " They're like bastard children." }, { "start": 2479.08, "end": 2486.16, "text": " I gave 490,000 of Motorola's 500,000 Moto X's bought by Chris to give away as he wanders" }, { "start": 2486.16, "end": 2487.16, "text": " the country." }, { "start": 2487.16, "end": 2488.16, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 2488.16, "end": 2489.16, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 2489.16, "end": 2490.16, "text": " Like Shane." }, { "start": 2490.16, "end": 2491.16, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 2491.16, "end": 2492.16, "text": " That's exactly right." }, { "start": 2492.16, "end": 2493.16, "text": " What's his name?" }, { "start": 2493.16, "end": 2494.16, "text": " Never mind." }, { "start": 2494.16, "end": 2500.24, "text": " Continue wandering the country, Chris." }, { "start": 2500.24, "end": 2503.56, "text": " What's the next, I have nothing else to say about Republic." }, { "start": 2503.56, "end": 2504.56, "text": " What's the next attack?" }, { "start": 2504.56, "end": 2505.56, "text": " I mean..." }, { "start": 2505.56, "end": 2508.68, "text": " I want to know who is the..." }, { "start": 2508.68, "end": 2513.56, "text": " Who is the actual target demographic of Republic Wireless?" }, { "start": 2513.56, "end": 2517.72, "text": " Everything about their technology seems awesome and the pricing is really, really good." }, { "start": 2517.72, "end": 2521.12, "text": " But is it reliable enough to have as a mainline?" }, { "start": 2521.12, "end": 2523.44, "text": " Because a lot of these seem like edge cases." }, { "start": 2523.44, "end": 2524.44, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 2524.44, "end": 2533.12, "text": " So I had a good sit down with their CEO last week and one example he gave is if you have" }, { "start": 2533.12, "end": 2540.16, "text": " a parent who doesn't care at all about data or any advanced capability for that matter," }, { "start": 2540.16, "end": 2543.3199999999997, "text": " it makes a great, even a landline 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you know, they launched in beta, what was it like two years ago I" }, { "start": 2575.44, "end": 2580.8, "text": " think using some really crappy LG or something." }, { "start": 2580.8, "end": 2583, "text": " It's like Motorola Defis or something like that." }, { "start": 2583, "end": 2589.46, "text": " No, but even before that I remember Paul was testing when they were still by invite only." }, { "start": 2589.46, "end": 2594.12, "text": " He was testing it on, I don't know, some like super low end Android device." }, { "start": 2594.12, "end": 2601.28, "text": " And it had some issues then and they've been working a lot on making it more robust." }, { "start": 2601.28, "end": 2607.4, "text": " And now one thing you can do now that you didn't used to be able to do is transition" }, { "start": 2607.4, "end": 2610.2400000000002, "text": " over from Wi-Fi to cellular without hanging up your call." }, { "start": 2610.2400000000002, "end": 2611.84, "text": " And he claims that it's 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"text": " you drive through a pocket of no signal, it'll keep the call open for a few seconds." }, { "start": 2654.24, "end": 2658.88, "text": " So if you come back into reception, the call will still be ongoing." }, { "start": 2658.88, "end": 2662.4, "text": " But that's how they're able to do these really seamless Wi-Fi to cellular handoffs," }, { "start": 2662.4, "end": 2666.44, "text": " even better than UMA, which never worked very well for me." }, { "start": 2666.44, "end": 2672.84, "text": " You may work fine on Wi-Fi, but as soon as you tried to move from Wi-Fi to cellular," }, { "start": 2672.84, "end": 2673.84, "text": " the call would usually drop." }, { "start": 2673.84, "end": 2676.2000000000003, "text": " Or it would be janky in some way." }, { "start": 2676.2000000000003, "end": 2677.2000000000003, "text": " Either it would drop." }, { "start": 2677.2000000000003, "end": 2678.2000000000003, "text": " Oh yeah, no way." }, { "start": 2678.2000000000003, "end": 2684.48, "text": " T-Mobile's Wi-Fi calling, my mother actually is super into it because she works in a hospital" }, { "start": 2684.48, "end": 2687.08, "text": " that is just impervious to cell signal." }, { "start": 2687.08, "end": 2692.38, "text": " It doesn't matter which carrier you're on, it just cannot penetrate into that building." }, { "start": 2692.38, "end": 2698.2400000000002, "text": " And it works really well, like you're saying, when you're on a Wi-Fi access point." }, { "start": 2698.2400000000002, "end": 2705.02, "text": " But that handoff is like, it works so poorly I'm not actually sure that there is one." }, { "start": 2705.02, "end": 2707.6800000000003, "text": " It works so very few times." }, { "start": 2707.6800000000003, "end": 2716.8, "text": " So yeah, and I mean it's kind of like, it's kind of like, it's kind of like when Minnesota" }, { "start": 2716.8, "end": 2720.92, "text": " tries to make a play and they try to hand it off to the running back and the quarterback" }, { "start": 2720.92, "end": 2721.92, "text": " just drops it." }, { "start": 2721.92, "end": 2726.84, "text": " You'd like to make a Lions burn, but you can't because they're the first place in the division." }, { "start": 2726.84, "end": 2729.84, "text": " Oh guys, sweet sports jokes." }, { "start": 2729.84, "end": 2734.28, "text": " It helps when everybody else in the division is hurt." }, { "start": 2734.28, "end": 2736.48, "text": " Otherwise the Lions would, you know." }, { "start": 2736.48, "end": 2738.76, "text": " You guys have like eight quarterbacks." }, { "start": 2738.76, "end": 2742.04, "text": " It doesn't matter how many quarterbacks you hurt, you have like eight more just waiting" }, { "start": 2742.04, "end": 2743.04, "text": " to play." }, { "start": 2743.04, "end": 2746.92, "text": " Somebody, we've got, look, we're coached by an entomologist, alright, and he looked at" }, { "start": 2746.92, "end": 2751.64, "text": " the word quarterback and he's like, oh well obviously we need four so we're holding." }, { "start": 2751.64, "end": 2752.64, "text": " Wow." }, { "start": 2752.64, "end": 2755.64, "text": " That's how it works, right?" }, { "start": 2755.64, "end": 2756.64, "text": " No." }, { "start": 2756.64, "end": 2757.64, "text": " It's not." }, { "start": 2757.64, "end": 2763.6, "text": " Denver is like seven and one or eight and one until they play Kansas City later this" }, { "start": 2763.6, "end": 2766.6, "text": " year and then they'll be like eight and four." }, { "start": 2766.6, "end": 2768.92, "text": " Yeah, they're playing Kansas City twice." }, { "start": 2768.92, "end": 2773.52, "text": " Once we dive into this conversation, there is no way back." }, { "start": 2773.52, "end": 2774.52, "text": " There's just no way back." }, { "start": 2774.52, "end": 2778.08, "text": " No, Dieter was going to say something about Republic and he was interrupting." }, { "start": 2778.08, "end": 2782.68, "text": " Yeah, well I was going to say something about Republic but first I was going to help us" }, { "start": 2782.68, "end": 2788.88, "text": " get back by saying that the Detroit Lions are the Tizen of the NFL." }, { "start": 2788.88, "end": 2793.6, "text": " I would love to hear you explain this." }, { "start": 2793.6, "end": 2799.44, "text": " Oh my gosh." }, { "start": 2799.44, "end": 2803.7999999999997, "text": " Nobody cares about them except for a very small select group of people who think that" }, { "start": 2803.8, "end": 2809.88, "text": " Tizen is incredibly awesome and amazing but in the end it fails." }, { "start": 2809.88, "end": 2810.88, "text": " And they never win." }, { "start": 2810.88, "end": 2816.92, "text": " The people who are excited about Tizen are excited about how much money it can make them." }, { "start": 2816.92, "end": 2821, "text": " There are no users who are excited for the Tizen platform." }, { "start": 2821, "end": 2826.0800000000004, "text": " Tizen is a little bit like the Willis Tower, just not as tall as the one in New York." }, { "start": 2826.0800000000004, "end": 2827.0800000000004, "text": " You didn't even try." }, { "start": 2827.0800000000004, "end": 2831.44, "text": " That isn't even an analogy." }, { "start": 2831.44, "end": 2834.28, "text": " You just didn't even bother to put any effort into it." }, { "start": 2834.28, "end": 2837.28, "text": " I just had to find a way." }, { "start": 2837.28, "end": 2838.84, "text": " How do you feel about that by the way?" }, { "start": 2838.84, "end": 2841.52, "text": " Oh and it's also changed names multiple times." }, { "start": 2841.52, "end": 2846.88, "text": " It is a lot like the Willis Tower." }, { "start": 2846.88, "end": 2851.2400000000002, "text": " The Willis Tower has changed names once, not multiple times." }, { "start": 2851.2400000000002, "end": 2854.08, "text": " So what was it before Tizen?" }, { "start": 2854.08, "end": 2856.28, "text": " Was it Bada before Tizen?" }, { "start": 2856.28, "end": 2857.28, "text": " Migo." }, { "start": 2857.28, "end": 2858.28, "text": " Migo." }, { "start": 2858.28, "end": 2866.96, "text": " Well Bada merged with Tizen but before that it was Migo and before that it was Mimo." }, { "start": 2866.96, "end": 2867.96, "text": " Mimo?" }, { "start": 2867.96, "end": 2873.32, "text": " Yeah but it was also, it's pronounced Mimo." }, { "start": 2873.32, "end": 2877.36, "text": " But there was another, what was the other one?" }, { "start": 2877.36, "end": 2879.36, "text": " The Intel platform." }, { "start": 2879.36, "end": 2884, "text": " Oh god, what was it called?" }, { "start": 2884, "end": 2885, "text": " It was…" }, { "start": 2885, "end": 2886, "text": " I cannot know." }, { "start": 2886, "end": 2889.24, "text": " How do you not have the Wikipedia page already open for this?" }, { "start": 2889.24, "end": 2891.24, "text": " The Intel platform, you mean Moblin?" }, { "start": 2891.24, "end": 2892.24, "text": " Moblin, yes." }, { "start": 2892.24, "end": 2893.24, "text": " Moblin, yes." }, { "start": 2893.24, "end": 2894.24, "text": " Wow." }, { "start": 2894.24, "end": 2898.8, "text": " Should have just been page, sorry I had another CES email." }, { "start": 2898.8, "end": 2904.84, "text": " So Moblin and Migo merged to become Tizen, right?" }, { "start": 2904.84, "end": 2908.4, "text": " I think Moblin came into Migo." }, { "start": 2908.4, "end": 2910, "text": " This whole conversation is just a world of hurt." }, { "start": 2910, "end": 2911, "text": " And there was Lima." }, { "start": 2911, "end": 2919.04, "text": " It was like horrible, pathetic, bad concepts and ideas and operating systems that never" }, { "start": 2919.04, "end": 2924.16, "text": " materialized and just when they do materialize they are like so anti-user that…" }, { "start": 2924.16, "end": 2930.96, "text": " According to Wikipedia it is a common misconception to say that Tizen is a continuation of Migo." }, { "start": 2930.96, "end": 2935.44, "text": " In fact it built on the Samsung Linux platform reference implementation delivered within" }, { "start": 2935.44, "end": 2944.2400000000002, "text": " Limo or Limo and Intel bailed, Intel was making Moblin, that got merged into Migo and then" }, { "start": 2944.2400000000002, "end": 2949.4, "text": " they bailed on Migo to join the Tizen group but I think most of the people that were working" }, { "start": 2949.4, "end": 2953.12, "text": " on Migo just said whatever and started doing Tizen stuff." }, { "start": 2953.12, "end": 2954.12, "text": " So can we talk about what…" }, { "start": 2954.12, "end": 2960.28, "text": " The saddest part about all of this is the guys that make…" }, { "start": 2960.28, "end": 2965.6000000000004, "text": " I just was going to make an awesome joke and I forgot that the cute, guys that make cute" }, { "start": 2965.6000000000004, "end": 2969.2000000000003, "text": " apps are still making stuff for all of these platforms." }, { "start": 2969.2000000000003, "end": 2975.44, "text": " You know what uses cute is the Tesla Model S. True story." }, { "start": 2975.44, "end": 2976.44, "text": " So one of the things…" }, { "start": 2976.44, "end": 2980.36, "text": " And the majority of Tegra 4 chipsets are in cars." }, { "start": 2980.36, "end": 2982.76, "text": " So that's true." }, { "start": 2982.76, "end": 2993.0800000000004, "text": " So one of the things that binds Limo and now Tizen together is the fact that as we were" }, { "start": 2993.0800000000004, "end": 2998.76, "text": " saying before, users could not possibly care less about them." }, { "start": 2998.76, "end": 3004.2000000000003, "text": " They are like reference platforms that are designed to appeal to carriers because carriers" }, { "start": 3004.2000000000003, "end": 3009.1200000000003, "text": " can do literally whatever they want with them and create like self-branded phones that just" }, { "start": 3009.12, "end": 3015.8399999999997, "text": " have a morass of carrier branded crapware on them which is the exact same market that" }, { "start": 3015.8399999999997, "end": 3019.56, "text": " Firefox OS is targeting." }, { "start": 3019.56, "end": 3024.7599999999998, "text": " By the way, I'd like to remind everybody that Sprint once committed to releasing a" }, { "start": 3024.7599999999998, "end": 3026.64, "text": " Firefox OS phone in 2014." }, { "start": 3026.64, "end": 3029.3199999999997, "text": " I wonder if that's still in the cards." }, { "start": 3029.3199999999997, "end": 3031.56, "text": " I can't wait." }, { "start": 3031.56, "end": 3034.4, "text": " So yeah, I mean like when you say…" }, { "start": 3034.4, "end": 3038.56, "text": " Carriers are literally not going to be able to say we're selling a Tizen phone because" }, { "start": 3038.56, "end": 3043.32, "text": " like that doesn't mean anything to users and like there's no benefit to be able to" }, { "start": 3043.32, "end": 3046.6, "text": " describe to users that Tizen has." }, { "start": 3046.6, "end": 3049.16, "text": " Like there is no benefit." }, { "start": 3049.16, "end": 3054.32, "text": " I just don't understand with it, you know, especially in…" }, { "start": 3054.32, "end": 3059.02, "text": " Maybe the conversation is different for emerging markets but like especially in developed markets" }, { "start": 3059.02, "end": 3065.36, "text": " where you know, either the smartphones are so well known that people know what to look" }, { "start": 3065.36, "end": 3069.7200000000003, "text": " for, they know what they're getting, they have friends that have them and you know," }, { "start": 3069.7200000000003, "end": 3074.2400000000002, "text": " you can get an Android phone for free on contract or you can get an iPhone for free on contract." }, { "start": 3074.2400000000002, "end": 3080.1600000000003, "text": " What is the play for like, why bother with Tizen?" }, { "start": 3080.1600000000003, "end": 3081.1600000000003, "text": " Or even Firefox?" }, { "start": 3081.1600000000003, "end": 3085.52, "text": " In developed countries, I think there's less than no chance." }, { "start": 3085.52, "end": 3089.96, "text": " When you can get Android handsets for free on contract and older iPhones for free on" }, { "start": 3089.96, "end": 3093.1600000000003, "text": " contract like that, I think it's just impossible." }, { "start": 3093.16, "end": 3099.96, "text": " But for ultra cheap phones that are bought off contract, where those devices are great," }, { "start": 3099.96, "end": 3104.52, "text": " I mean it all depends on how much margin they want to get and how much branding they want" }, { "start": 3104.52, "end": 3105.52, "text": " to associate." }, { "start": 3105.52, "end": 3111.8399999999997, "text": " Right, because keep in mind, Tizen doesn't have…" }, { "start": 3111.8399999999997, "end": 3116.3399999999997, "text": " Like if you're listening to this podcast right now and thinking, gee, I'm racking" }, { "start": 3116.3399999999997, "end": 3120.04, "text": " my brain, I can't think of what Tizen looks like, that's because it doesn't look like" }, { "start": 3120.04, "end": 3121.04, "text": " anything." }, { "start": 3121.04, "end": 3126.12, "text": " There's a reference phone with like a reference UI, but the whole concept of Tizen is that" }, { "start": 3126.12, "end": 3131.2799999999997, "text": " carriers can tear it apart, put whatever skin they want on it and like I said, load it with" }, { "start": 3131.2799999999997, "end": 3137.12, "text": " crapware and then sell it as like, you know, a phone that is inherently like guaranteed" }, { "start": 3137.12, "end": 3138.6, "text": " to boost our poop." }, { "start": 3138.6, "end": 3142.04, "text": " It's like that Verizon tablet that was just announced last week." }, { "start": 3142.04, "end": 3143.04, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3143.04, "end": 3144.3, "text": " Verizon tablet." }, { "start": 3144.3, "end": 3148.08, "text": " This is a direction that Android is going in and this was the original dream of Android," }, { "start": 3148.08, "end": 3151.36, "text": " it just got staved off for a while because they needed to make it good enough." }, { "start": 3151.36, "end": 3155.08, "text": " They've made it good enough and now Google is going off in its Google-y direction." }, { "start": 3155.08, "end": 3161.98, "text": " The last screens I've seen of Tizen was like a story in 2012 of them running like" }, { "start": 3161.98, "end": 3169.56, "text": " HTML5 applications and just demonstrating like how smooth like this like spiraling 3D" }, { "start": 3169.56, "end": 3174.08, "text": " render was in HTML5 and since that time I have not seen a single screenshot or like" }, { "start": 3174.08, "end": 3176.12, "text": " product demo with Tizen." }, { "start": 3176.12, "end": 3177.12, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3177.12, "end": 3179.2, "text": " It's all framework." }, { "start": 3179.2, "end": 3180.2, "text": " It's all framework." }, { "start": 3180.2, "end": 3184.8399999999997, "text": " I can't think of a single – I can't even think of a single news hit about like" }, { "start": 3184.8399999999997, "end": 3190.72, "text": " potential benefits or features for consumers that like you would use as like marketing" }, { "start": 3190.72, "end": 3195.7999999999997, "text": " spin for this like even, you know, just like horse crap features that don't actually" }, { "start": 3195.7999999999997, "end": 3196.7999999999997, "text": " exist." }, { "start": 3196.7999999999997, "end": 3197.7999999999997, "text": " I can't even think of anything." }, { "start": 3197.7999999999997, "end": 3202.7599999999998, "text": " Well, if you go back and look – if you go back and look at – if you go back and" }, { "start": 3202.76, "end": 3210.6400000000003, "text": " look at Limo phones which were primarily sold in Japan but if you go back and look at them," }, { "start": 3210.6400000000003, "end": 3216.1200000000003, "text": " there is no UI consistent – there's no meaningful UI consistency to speak of." }, { "start": 3216.1200000000003, "end": 3219.88, "text": " There's no like – I don't even think there's like a consistent – there's" }, { "start": 3219.88, "end": 3225.82, "text": " like an app market and, you know, the story has changed now, you know, because Limo is" }, { "start": 3225.82, "end": 3231.32, "text": " years and years old but still that should give you like a very foreboding preview of" }, { "start": 3231.32, "end": 3235.36, "text": " what to expect and what not to expect from Tizen." }, { "start": 3235.36, "end": 3238.48, "text": " I think it's going to be – it's going to be completely meaningless to the developed" }, { "start": 3238.48, "end": 3239.48, "text": " market." }, { "start": 3239.48, "end": 3243.7200000000003, "text": " And let us never speak of it again." }, { "start": 3243.7200000000003, "end": 3244.7200000000003, "text": " Indeed." }, { "start": 3244.7200000000003, "end": 3245.7200000000003, "text": " I agree." }, { "start": 3245.7200000000003, "end": 3246.7200000000003, "text": " All right." }, { "start": 3246.7200000000003, "end": 3247.7200000000003, "text": " Should we wrap up?" }, { "start": 3247.7200000000003, "end": 3250.2400000000002, "text": " Is there anything else you guys really want to talk about?" }, { "start": 3250.2400000000002, "end": 3253.2400000000002, "text": " Oh, you can buy a Z30 on Thursday from Verizon." }, { "start": 3253.2400000000002, "end": 3254.2400000000002, "text": " But here's the rub." }, { "start": 3254.2400000000002, "end": 3257.2400000000002, "text": " Is there something he really wants to talk about?" }, { "start": 3257.24, "end": 3263.08, "text": " What I find like so hysterical about this is like Verizon is so half-assed on this." }, { "start": 3263.08, "end": 3265.52, "text": " Like you can't go into a store and buy it." }, { "start": 3265.52, "end": 3266.52, "text": " You have to buy it online." }, { "start": 3266.52, "end": 3267.52, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 3267.52, "end": 3270.12, "text": " Like they're making it available for sale but you can only get it online." }, { "start": 3270.12, "end": 3272.24, "text": " They're not even bothering to stock it." }, { "start": 3272.24, "end": 3273.24, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 3273.24, "end": 3275.9599999999996, "text": " That means that they're not bothering to train sales reps on it or anything." }, { "start": 3275.9599999999996, "end": 3279.24, "text": " Any of that investment that normally goes into a phone launch." }, { "start": 3279.24, "end": 3283.3199999999997, "text": " Well like I said last week, if you have a Z10 and you're thinking to yourself, gee," }, { "start": 3283.3199999999997, "end": 3286.9599999999996, "text": " I wish I had a slightly better Z10, boom." }, { "start": 3286.96, "end": 3289.28, "text": " Your dream phone has arrived." }, { "start": 3289.28, "end": 3296.52, "text": " But if you're in the other 99.997% of the population, please, I beg of you, one human" }, { "start": 3296.52, "end": 3298.76, "text": " to another, don't buy this phone." }, { "start": 3298.76, "end": 3303.2400000000002, "text": " Did you guys see the Funny or Die Dave Foley last Blackberry employee?" }, { "start": 3303.2400000000002, "end": 3306.92, "text": " That was so good." }, { "start": 3306.92, "end": 3312.52, "text": " So I guess the big question for Blackberry is like what happens now?" }, { "start": 3312.52, "end": 3317.7599999999998, "text": " Like is the Z30 the last phone in the pipeline that they had or like what's going on?" }, { "start": 3317.7599999999998, "end": 3321.6, "text": " Well I think the next thing that happens is they get their kneecaps broken by the people" }, { "start": 3321.6, "end": 3323.96, "text": " that loaned them a billion dollars." }, { "start": 3323.96, "end": 3324.96, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 3324.96, "end": 3332.6, "text": " And then after that, they're carved up into little itty bitty pieces and sold off to the" }, { "start": 3332.6, "end": 3333.6, "text": " highest bidders." }, { "start": 3333.6, "end": 3334.6, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 3334.6, "end": 3335.6, "text": " Like I have no idea." }, { "start": 3335.6, "end": 3336.6, "text": " There's no precedent." }, { "start": 3336.6, "end": 3338.08, "text": " Will we ever see a new Blackberry?" }, { "start": 3338.08, "end": 3339.08, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3339.08, "end": 3340.24, "text": " Well I think they're certainly going to try." }, { "start": 3340.24, "end": 3342.28, "text": " At least that's the message they're sending." }, { "start": 3342.28, "end": 3345.0400000000004, "text": " I think that there is." }, { "start": 3345.0400000000004, "end": 3347.76, "text": " Every company searching for emergency funding says." }, { "start": 3347.76, "end": 3348.76, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 3348.76, "end": 3353.76, "text": " There really is no precedent in the mobile or in the consumer electronics industry for" }, { "start": 3353.76, "end": 3355.5400000000004, "text": " what's happening with Blackberry right now." }, { "start": 3355.5400000000004, "end": 3360.0400000000004, "text": " So I don't think there's any real way to predict how this is going to end up." }, { "start": 3360.0400000000004, "end": 3368.2000000000003, "text": " But like I don't see as a non-executive amateur who's observing this situation, I don't understand" }, { "start": 3368.2000000000003, "end": 3370, "text": " how they climb out of this." }, { "start": 3370, "end": 3371.84, "text": " I see no path they can take." }, { "start": 3371.84, "end": 3375.36, "text": " I see no path to success for the new CEO." }, { "start": 3375.36, "end": 3378.76, "text": " I don't know how they do it." }, { "start": 3378.76, "end": 3379.76, "text": " I certainly don't know." }, { "start": 3379.76, "end": 3387.6800000000003, "text": " What's next for them is just like waiting for the weekend where they get to party with" }, { "start": 3387.6800000000003, "end": 3391, "text": " the mayor of Toronto." }, { "start": 3391, "end": 3392.6400000000003, "text": " That's as good as it gets for them now." }, { "start": 3392.6400000000003, "end": 3401.44, "text": " I think that two years ago, or even 18 months ago, they had an opportunity to just like" }, { "start": 3401.44, "end": 3406.88, "text": " really swallow their pride and go full on Android and market themselves as being like" }, { "start": 3406.88, "end": 3409.2400000000002, "text": " the secure Android." }, { "start": 3409.2400000000002, "end": 3414.2000000000003, "text": " Like what Samsung is trying to do with Knox now, if they had just eaten that market 18" }, { "start": 3414.2000000000003, "end": 3417.2000000000003, "text": " months ago, they could have possibly survived as a niche player." }, { "start": 3417.2000000000003, "end": 3421.08, "text": " Not even a niche player, like frankly a pretty big player for enterprises who believe in" }, { "start": 3421.08, "end": 3426.16, "text": " the Blackberry name and want all the advantages of having access to the Android ecosystem," }, { "start": 3426.16, "end": 3428.4, "text": " which you kind of do with Blackberry OS but not really." }, { "start": 3428.4, "end": 3433.88, "text": " A ton of Blackberry fanatics that are still addicted to BBM or at least were 18 months" }, { "start": 3433.88, "end": 3441.2200000000003, "text": " ago would totally have come over to anything Android branded, you know, Blackberry." }, { "start": 3441.2200000000003, "end": 3447.48, "text": " I think Blackberry feels like they're there now and that they've got, I think it's a Jellybean" }, { "start": 3447.48, "end": 3450.64, "text": " runtime on Z3B or whatever." }, { "start": 3450.64, "end": 3452.88, "text": " Yep, the Jellybean runtime." }, { "start": 3452.88, "end": 3457.1600000000003, "text": " But you know, come on, you're not there." }, { "start": 3457.16, "end": 3461.56, "text": " I think they also do believe that they could get like full on government security clearance" }, { "start": 3461.56, "end": 3463.96, "text": " for an Android based device at the time." }, { "start": 3463.96, "end": 3464.96, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 3464.96, "end": 3469.3599999999997, "text": " Making the decision between going with QNX or going to something else." }, { "start": 3469.3599999999997, "end": 3472.44, "text": " So like, I don't know." }, { "start": 3472.44, "end": 3474, "text": " That's a tough decision." }, { "start": 3474, "end": 3477.68, "text": " Yeah, and like they made the wrong one." }, { "start": 3477.68, "end": 3482.16, "text": " Lose all of their government contracts or they ended up with a chance of surviving." }, { "start": 3482.16, "end": 3487.2799999999997, "text": " You mentioned QNX and the funny thing about it is that that is still, that side of the" }, { "start": 3487.2799999999997, "end": 3491.56, "text": " business, they kind of have a Nokia situation going on because that side of the business" }, { "start": 3491.56, "end": 3493.24, "text": " is still actually quite healthy." }, { "start": 3493.24, "end": 3499.8399999999997, "text": " They license a ton of QNX to auto makers just as Nokia prior to the Microsoft purchase." }, { "start": 3499.8399999999997, "end": 3501.48, "text": " Is it pronounced QNX?" }, { "start": 3501.48, "end": 3504.8599999999997, "text": " That yeah, although I've mispronounced so much stuff on this show, I wouldn't believe" }, { "start": 3504.8599999999997, "end": 3505.8599999999997, "text": " me anymore." }, { "start": 3505.8599999999997, "end": 3510.56, "text": " I thought for sure it was QNX." }, { "start": 3510.56, "end": 3513.44, "text": " I believe it's QNX but don't quote me on that." }, { "start": 3513.44, "end": 3516.32, "text": " How do you pronounce a word with no vowels?" }, { "start": 3516.32, "end": 3517.32, "text": " It's a good question." }, { "start": 3517.32, "end": 3518.32, "text": " As close as you can get I think." }, { "start": 3518.32, "end": 3520.2, "text": " You just take a stab at it." }, { "start": 3520.2, "end": 3525.12, "text": " So if you go back prior to the Microsoft purchase of Nokia's handset division, you know of course" }, { "start": 3525.12, "end": 3531.6, "text": " they have or they had the legacy Navtec, the Hear business which is still very healthy" }, { "start": 3531.6, "end": 3536.2, "text": " in part because of licensing their map data to auto makers." }, { "start": 3536.2, "end": 3539.5, "text": " So it's some very interesting and surprising parallels between those." }, { "start": 3539.5, "end": 3544, "text": " So the point is long term something meaningful is going to happen to the QNX side of the" }, { "start": 3544, "end": 3546.84, "text": " business regardless of what happens to Blackberry as a whole." }, { "start": 3546.84, "end": 3552, "text": " Question is whether they can make it work as a single company or if they will have to" }, { "start": 3552, "end": 3554.92, "text": " get carved up." }, { "start": 3554.92, "end": 3555.92, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 3555.92, "end": 3559.8, "text": " There's a lot to be said for QNX." }, { "start": 3559.8, "end": 3564.68, "text": " Its architecture is really admirable and its memory management architecture is just really" }, { "start": 3564.68, "end": 3572.44, "text": " cool and it was one of the first truly object oriented operating systems to exist out there" }, { "start": 3572.44, "end": 3576.16, "text": " and the history is really interesting and the product that's out there right now is" }, { "start": 3576.16, "end": 3583.16, "text": " actually pretty cool but it's like it's already over." }, { "start": 3583.16, "end": 3592.3199999999997, "text": " Well, I'm going to call that, we're ending on a down note again, but that's okay." }, { "start": 3592.3199999999997, "end": 3594.12, "text": " Things are going to get better next week." }, { "start": 3594.12, "end": 3595.6, "text": " It's going to be amazing next week." }, { "start": 3595.6, "end": 3596.6, "text": " Just you watch." }, { "start": 3596.6, "end": 3599, "text": " If you want to follow us on Twitter you can and should." }, { "start": 3599, "end": 3600.48, "text": " If you want to follow me, I'm back on." }, { "start": 3600.48, "end": 3603.3599999999997, "text": " If you want to follow Dan, he is at DC Seaford." }, { "start": 3603.3599999999997, "end": 3606.16, "text": " If you want to follow Evan, is it Evan R. Rogers?" }, { "start": 3606.16, "end": 3607.16, "text": " It's just Evan Rogers." }, { "start": 3607.16, "end": 3608.16, "text": " Just Evan Rogers." }, { "start": 3608.16, "end": 3610.8399999999997, "text": " Sorry, why did I get an R in there?" }, { "start": 3610.8399999999997, "end": 3613.8399999999997, "text": " Oh, because Rogers starts with an R so it's Evan Rogers." }, { "start": 3613.8399999999997, "end": 3614.8399999999997, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 3614.8399999999997, "end": 3616.12, "text": " Is there a D in Rogers?" }, { "start": 3616.12, "end": 3617.12, "text": " There's a D in the Rogers." }, { "start": 3617.12, "end": 3619.4, "text": " There's a D in the Rogers." }, { "start": 3619.4, "end": 3624.44, "text": " And if you want to follow Chris, go to the Willis Tower, go up to the roof where he is" }, { "start": 3624.44, "end": 3630.32, "text": " brick by brick trying to make it taller so that New York is no longer better than Chicago" }, { "start": 3630.32, "end": 3631.32, "text": " in his mind." }, { "start": 3631.32, "end": 3635.48, "text": " You can also find him on Twitter, he's at ZPower." }, { "start": 3635.48, "end": 3640.84, "text": " We're all at Verge and I promise to be better next week which means we'll be here too." }, { "start": 3640.84, "end": 3643.4, "text": " Thanks for watching everybody." }, { "start": 3643.4, "end": 3651.2400000000002, "text": " Take it easy." } ]

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It's Alexis from Small Empires. Okay. Oh, thank you." }, { "start": 63.24, "end": 68.72, "text": " Oh, hey. Hello there. Fancy seeing you here. Yeah, Alexis. Welcome to Kitchen Surfing." }, { "start": 68.72, "end": 73.64, "text": " Kitchen Surfing is a marketplace for amazing chefs all over the world and" }, { "start": 73.64, "end": 77.68, "text": " people that love food. It's a place on the internet where you can find chefs that come to" }, { "start": 77.68, "end": 82.88000000000001, "text": " your home and cook for you and your friends. The notion of a private chef is" }, { "start": 82.88000000000001, "end": 87.76, "text": " something that used to be perceived as, and I think from a cost standpoint" }, { "start": 87.76, "end": 92.76, "text": " probably also just limited to, like fairly wealthy individuals, right? You're" }, { "start": 92.76, "end": 97.68, "text": " in a lot of ways democratizing, making this at least more accessible. By making" }, { "start": 97.68, "end": 102.96000000000001, "text": " that market more efficient, you make the opportunity of getting, you know, having" }, { "start": 102.96000000000001, "end": 106, "text": " an amazing dinner party at your home actually something that people can" }, { "start": 106, "end": 111.04, "text": " perceive of as doable in a way that, you know, sort of the Uber with" }, { "start": 111.04, "end": 115.36, "text": " private car service. But Uber is different, right? It's more like a utility." }, { "start": 115.36, "end": 119.72, "text": " It's like you might get from A to B. True, true. This is not an experience. It's not an experience and" }, { "start": 119.72, "end": 124.64, "text": " I think it's about the experience and it's about really creating, like" }, { "start": 124.64, "end": 129.96, "text": " connecting the people with the people that create the food." }, { "start": 129.96, "end": 138.28, "text": " With kitchen surfing, I mean, I think that one of the things that I had seen is just" }, { "start": 138.28, "end": 141.84, "text": " like that the pay scale for chefs was really, really awful. You know, it's like" }, { "start": 141.84, "end": 145.44, "text": " in New York City, you go and you work as a line cook at a really fancy restaurant" }, { "start": 145.44, "end": 149.56, "text": " like a Per Se or a Boulay or whatever, you know, you're often making $12-15" }, { "start": 149.56, "end": 152.4, "text": " an hour. Everybody knows that the restaurants are bad businesses because" }, { "start": 152.4, "end": 155.72, "text": " you have this high fixed cost, a high rent, and you've got a low margin and all" }, { "start": 155.72, "end": 160.52, "text": " these things, right? And cooks kind of get the rawest end of that deal, I" }, { "start": 160.52, "end": 166.2, "text": " think, in many ways. When I got the domain kitchensurfing.com, I thought" }, { "start": 166.2, "end": 169.96, "text": " about my mom who was like, you know, was traveling a lot. I was, I stayed, I lived" }, { "start": 169.96, "end": 174.84, "text": " in Melbourne for a while, lived in Berlin, in Konstanz, and every time she was like" }, { "start": 174.84, "end": 179.96, "text": " really missing the food of my mom. It was something about like, there was like" }, { "start": 179.96, "end": 183.92, "text": " something like really homestyle you can't really get anywhere else. And I" }, { "start": 183.92, "end": 188.04, "text": " really, really liked this idea about like, you know, finding more people that" }, { "start": 188.04, "end": 191.48, "text": " like, like really good in cooking. And you know, especially Melbourne, it's like, hey" }, { "start": 191.48, "end": 194.88, "text": " man, there's so many amazing people that are really good in cooking. Never went to" }, { "start": 194.88, "end": 198.79999999999998, "text": " culinary school, but I liked my mom just like, hey, I just quickly like the best" }, { "start": 198.79999999999998, "end": 202.76, "text": " food at home. I've been thinking a lot about what would it mean for chefs to" }, { "start": 202.76, "end": 206.27999999999997, "text": " get paid more often, and I recently had to do like some parties. I had hired" }, { "start": 206.27999999999997, "end": 208.95999999999998, "text": " people that I knew were like chefs that were looking for work and they like" }, { "start": 208.95999999999998, "end": 213.07999999999998, "text": " crushed it and it was relatively cheap. And I was like, this is interesting." }, { "start": 213.08, "end": 218.20000000000002, "text": " Tell me, just understand what you were thinking when you got an email" }, { "start": 218.20000000000002, "end": 223, "text": " introduction from a friend of yours who said, I mean, I'm not gonna get him from wrong, but he was" }, { "start": 223, "end": 227.4, "text": " basically like, listen, just sold a domain name to a random guy on the internet." }, { "start": 227.4, "end": 233.68, "text": " You gotta meet him. So yeah, so I have a crazy friend and he had this domain name" }, { "start": 233.68, "end": 237.28, "text": " that he was sitting on and this German guy is like, hey, I want to buy this from" }, { "start": 237.28, "end": 241.36, "text": " you. And he says, okay, but you have to pay me in Bitcoin. This is probably in like" }, { "start": 241.36, "end": 245.92000000000002, "text": " 2011 or something like that. Maybe 2012. Like, nobody knows what Bitcoins are." }, { "start": 245.92000000000002, "end": 253.08, "text": " And Bo is like, huh? Bitcoin? Like, what's this? So the guy who sold the domain to me" }, { "start": 253.08, "end": 258.28000000000003, "text": " in Bitcoins, 50 Bitcoins, he introduced me to Chris and was like, hey," }, { "start": 258.28000000000003, "end": 263, "text": " this is crazy guy like technology kind of thing, restaurant. And it's like, alright, okay." }, { "start": 263, "end": 266.68, "text": " And my friend was like, okay, well, you should go to New York because New York's awesome." }, { "start": 266.68, "end": 270.56, "text": " True. And here's a bunch of people you should meet. And if you want to talk about" }, { "start": 270.56, "end": 275.6, "text": " food stuff, you should talk to Chris. So I went to New York just for fun on vacation" }, { "start": 275.6, "end": 280.64, "text": " and met Chris. We were hanging out, getting drunk, ate a lot. Bo comes in to visit and" }, { "start": 280.64, "end": 284.04, "text": " he's just kind of like in hangout mode, right? Like he's not really working on" }, { "start": 284.04, "end": 288.52, "text": " anything. He's just like in hangout mode. He's like, hey, nice to meet you and" }, { "start": 288.52, "end": 291.76, "text": " whatever. And I'm kind of sitting there like, I'm like heads down working on" }, { "start": 291.76, "end": 297.08, "text": " something and I'm like, okay, cool. Like, who are you? What do you want? What can I" }, { "start": 297.08, "end": 302.12, "text": " do for you? And then proceeded to kind of like give him a little bit of a hard" }, { "start": 302.12, "end": 306.2, "text": " time. And why, why are we giving her a hard time? I just trying to like figure" }, { "start": 306.2, "end": 309.15999999999997, "text": " out what it was that he was doing with himself. Like, like, like what are you" }, { "start": 309.15999999999997, "end": 311.71999999999997, "text": " doing with your life? Like what are you doing with your life? Like why are you" }, { "start": 311.71999999999997, "end": 314.44, "text": " here? What kind of thing are you trying to work on? What's interesting to you?" }, { "start": 314.44, "end": 318.52, "text": " Like, it's like, like all those things that should unfold over a three hour" }, { "start": 318.52, "end": 323.36, "text": " conversation over like a couple of beers. You just sit down. Yeah. Yeah. So like," }, { "start": 323.36, "end": 328.08000000000004, "text": " let's just sit down and like get this done in 15 minutes. I went back to Berlin" }, { "start": 328.08000000000004, "end": 332.48, "text": " and I was like, I worked on a different projects and came back then in January" }, { "start": 332.48, "end": 336, "text": " last year and we were just hanging out again and it's like, hey, let's do this" }, { "start": 336, "end": 338.92, "text": " together. And I say, all right, okay. I'm staying here for a couple of months and" }, { "start": 338.92, "end": 343.48, "text": " then we just pulled it off." }, { "start": 347.48, "end": 353, "text": " It's hard to take him seriously with those googly eyes, but he still makes a good" }, { "start": 353, "end": 358.52, "text": " point. So that happened as a joke. So we call our support team salt, which is" }, { "start": 358.52, "end": 363.88, "text": " support and logistics team. And so Evan decided to riff on that and called the" }, { "start": 363.88, "end": 367.12, "text": " Devon product team pepper. Kind of a stretch though to make that an acronym." }, { "start": 367.12, "end": 372.76, "text": " Yeah. He pulled it off with such panache when he said it that it just worked. And why" }, { "start": 372.76, "end": 381.12, "text": " Jules? I think they just like guns or Samuel L. Jackson. So we're in your living room?" }, { "start": 381.12, "end": 385.6, "text": " Living room. Yes. So this is actually the last floor that we annexed in the" }, { "start": 385.6, "end": 389.48, "text": " building. We didn't have this floor until about a month ago. And this is the" }, { "start": 389.48, "end": 392.8, "text": " product and dev team at kitchen surfing. We were originally going to like build" }, { "start": 392.8, "end": 395.64, "text": " out almost like a test kitchen kind of environment down here. And you might see" }, { "start": 395.64, "end": 399.28000000000003, "text": " some plans for that a little bit later. And then we kind of grew too fast and" }, { "start": 399.28000000000003, "end": 402.52, "text": " had too many people and decided that we needed a space for other things. This is" }, { "start": 402.52, "end": 406.64, "text": " where most of the development work gets done. All of it except for a outpost in" }, { "start": 406.64, "end": 411.84, "text": " Poland. Wow. All right. So this is where everyone spends their days just reading" }, { "start": 411.84, "end": 417.91999999999996, "text": " Reddit and hacker news. Don't talk about it. I'm sorry. What were you doing before" }, { "start": 417.91999999999996, "end": 423.12, "text": " kitchen surfing? I was working in Greenvine. All right. So have you been doing startups" }, { "start": 423.12, "end": 428.03999999999996, "text": " pretty much since college? Yeah, entirely. So you're spoiled. There's no way you're going back." }, { "start": 428.03999999999996, "end": 432.2, "text": " Why go to a big place? Why kitchen surfing? You could work, you know, right now" }, { "start": 432.2, "end": 435.68, "text": " obviously everyone's hiring for developer talent. Why did you choose" }, { "start": 435.68, "end": 439.36, "text": " kitchen surfing? So kitchen surfing has this really interesting crossover" }, { "start": 439.36, "end": 444.48, "text": " between you're actually paying chefs to do what they want with their lives. You" }, { "start": 444.48, "end": 447.32, "text": " know, I mean that's not like a lot of opportunity you get to do in a lot" }, { "start": 447.32, "end": 451.6, "text": " of things. It's this new market that you're building out of which really most" }, { "start": 451.6, "end": 454.8, "text": " people just weren't aware existed. Even chefs themselves weren't aware that they" }, { "start": 454.8, "end": 457.76, "text": " could have like this large of a market. And you're actually paying them to do what" }, { "start": 457.76, "end": 460.28000000000003, "text": " they want with their lives. It's an amazing thing. Like that's what I find" }, { "start": 460.28000000000003, "end": 464.36, "text": " like super interesting about it. That's a problem I'd like to see solved. And like" }, { "start": 464.36, "end": 468.12, "text": " I'd like to see that happen for, you know, painters, artists, musicians, everything" }, { "start": 468.12, "end": 475.36, "text": " else. But like right now it's chefs. Step one, chefs. All right. And how does it feel to get up in the" }, { "start": 475.36, "end": 478.64, "text": " morning and look forward to the work you do? Dude, it's great. I wouldn't have it any" }, { "start": 478.64, "end": 484.28000000000003, "text": " other way. Like if that stops happening I'll stop being here. There you go." }, { "start": 485.2, "end": 491.88, "text": " You make it seem really effortless how you met. But at the time you said you" }, { "start": 491.88, "end": 496.76, "text": " were living in Berlin, right? Yeah. And he was living in New York. Right." }, { "start": 496.76, "end": 499.8, "text": " And you were in town visiting. You were eating. You were getting drunk together." }, { "start": 499.8, "end": 504.8, "text": " Having a good time. Right. And you decided to start a company together. Yeah, right. I mean I didn't" }, { "start": 504.8, "end": 508.32, "text": " know anything about him and I just liked him and we only had one beer together" }, { "start": 508.32, "end": 514.24, "text": " or two. And I was really confused. I was like why would we start a" }, { "start": 514.24, "end": 520.2, "text": " company together? I don't even know you. But we both like came like from the direction" }, { "start": 520.2, "end": 523.5600000000001, "text": " where we were like in a right mindset of like doing something together. And it's" }, { "start": 523.5600000000001, "end": 527.96, "text": " basically like okay come you know January of 2013 we're basically gonna" }, { "start": 527.96, "end": 531.4000000000001, "text": " clear our decks from like everything and just like work. It turned out that we" }, { "start": 531.4000000000001, "end": 535.12, "text": " ended up with like an amazing working relationship which is weird right?" }, { "start": 535.12, "end": 539.2, "text": " Because it's like oh he's this guy who sort of you met through the internet but ends up" }, { "start": 539.2, "end": 541.6400000000001, "text": " being like an amazing colleague and we ended up being really good friends and" }, { "start": 541.6400000000001, "end": 544.36, "text": " everything just kind of like felt like it had a little bit of pixie dust on it." }, { "start": 544.36, "end": 547.9200000000001, "text": " I always thought like this would be crazy to build a marketplace where we" }, { "start": 547.92, "end": 552.0799999999999, "text": " can find and engage with chefs anywhere as you travel. And I thought it's a great" }, { "start": 552.0799999999999, "end": 554.92, "text": " idea but I don't even know how to pull it off. How do you get started? You're in" }, { "start": 554.92, "end": 559.4799999999999, "text": " January 2013. What's the first thing you guys do? We build a signup page for" }, { "start": 559.4799999999999, "end": 564.64, "text": " chefs. Like we're talking it's just really basic HTML, CSS, you're just it's" }, { "start": 564.64, "end": 568.12, "text": " just a web form. Like it's not even connected to a database to start" }, { "start": 568.12, "end": 572.7199999999999, "text": " really. Like it just like it's like it like it like it like dumps into a CSV" }, { "start": 572.7199999999999, "end": 577.28, "text": " file type of situation. Okay all right. And we started asking people to sign up." }, { "start": 577.28, "end": 582.36, "text": " For two months was like really like hey let's set up a homepage, a signup form," }, { "start": 582.36, "end": 587, "text": " do wireframes and all this kind of stuff. And then you figure out how you" }, { "start": 587, "end": 592.64, "text": " create more how do you find chefs. And how do you find chefs? Through this" }, { "start": 592.64, "end": 597.3199999999999, "text": " website where restaurant chefs were looking for jobs. So like a craigslist?" }, { "start": 597.3199999999999, "end": 603.0799999999999, "text": " Sort of yeah yeah yeah. It's everybody's on general like for Peter want to like" }, { "start": 603.08, "end": 608.5200000000001, "text": " find a place where we can work like in the food world. And we just set up" }, { "start": 608.5200000000001, "end": 615.32, "text": " of sign like a like an ad saying hey if you want to cook here sign up basically." }, { "start": 615.32, "end": 618.8000000000001, "text": " And that's where not only people in New York really from anywhere in the world" }, { "start": 618.8000000000001, "end": 623.4000000000001, "text": " like sign up. And I think this is something that made us realize like what" }, { "start": 623.4000000000001, "end": 628.8000000000001, "text": " kitchen surfing can become. Marketplaces are only as valuable as the people who" }, { "start": 628.8000000000001, "end": 632.8000000000001, "text": " contribute to them. Chris Lynch has been cooking since he was a little kid." }, { "start": 632.8, "end": 637.4799999999999, "text": " And he knows this new world presents some challenges but also a lot of" }, { "start": 637.4799999999999, "end": 641.8, "text": " opportunities. The thing that always you know comes into my mind immediately is" }, { "start": 641.8, "end": 646.0799999999999, "text": " the fact that I think that they've created a need for something that people" }, { "start": 646.0799999999999, "end": 649.28, "text": " didn't know they had before. I feel like that's what it's about. It's like you" }, { "start": 649.28, "end": 652.52, "text": " don't know you need this but then I'm gonna present it to you in such a way" }, { "start": 652.52, "end": 656.0799999999999, "text": " that now you can't live without it. And I feel like kitchen surfing is doing that" }, { "start": 656.0799999999999, "end": 660.5999999999999, "text": " not just for private chefs because before I met kitchen surfing outside of" }, { "start": 660.6, "end": 664.48, "text": " word-of-mouth I had a very hard time finding new clients. Somebody who wants" }, { "start": 664.48, "end": 668.96, "text": " to throw a dinner party on a Friday night or something you know what were" }, { "start": 668.96, "end": 672.9200000000001, "text": " your choices before catering from the local restaurant catering from a" }, { "start": 672.9200000000001, "end": 677.48, "text": " catering place which sort of really doesn't have a lot of appeal. You know" }, { "start": 677.48, "end": 680.72, "text": " maybe your Italian restaurant down the street does but again they're cooking it" }, { "start": 680.72, "end": 683.76, "text": " there they're bringing they're dropping it off and that's it. You know this is" }, { "start": 683.76, "end": 686.76, "text": " you know we're coming into your home and we're cooking it's much more personalized." }, { "start": 686.76, "end": 691.72, "text": " Though we have set menus on our profile that's more to give I think to give the" }, { "start": 691.72, "end": 696.56, "text": " client sort of an idea frame of reference how we cook where we come from. Okay this" }, { "start": 696.56, "end": 700.52, "text": " guy cooks Italian this guy cooks French so it narrow you know it narrows it down" }, { "start": 700.52, "end": 704.36, "text": " for you but then it becomes a one-on-one and you basically design your own dinner" }, { "start": 704.36, "end": 710.88, "text": " with the chef. All right so we're in a test kitchen which is just the kitchen" }, { "start": 710.88, "end": 715.8, "text": " of the kitchen surfing offices. So right behind us you can't smell it we don't" }, { "start": 715.8, "end": 719.5999999999999, "text": " have that technology but it smells amazing and all these people are trying" }, { "start": 719.5999999999999, "end": 723.68, "text": " to work. We are not a regular office so we're a home. This is a home and so" }, { "start": 723.68, "end": 727.64, "text": " there's a home kitchen and this is what a chef on kitchen surfing usually walks" }, { "start": 727.64, "end": 732.64, "text": " into. A home kitchen they've never been in so part of the chefs coming into kitchen" }, { "start": 732.64, "end": 737.4799999999999, "text": " surfing is them being able to see what it's like to cook in another home. So first of all" }, { "start": 737.4799999999999, "end": 744.8399999999999, "text": " these three ladies that are chefs today there's Malika, Isabel and Carrie. We have" }, { "start": 744.84, "end": 748.76, "text": " never met these three chefs before and they have never met us so this is an" }, { "start": 748.76, "end": 752.4, "text": " opportunity for them to come in and start cooking and sharing their story" }, { "start": 752.4, "end": 758.1600000000001, "text": " and their food with the kitchen surfing team. So they're given a prompt they have 45" }, { "start": 758.1600000000001, "end": 763.5600000000001, "text": " minutes to cook prep and plate two dishes they can represent their culinary" }, { "start": 763.5600000000001, "end": 769.5600000000001, "text": " style and what their food represents about themselves. This is wow this feels" }, { "start": 769.5600000000001, "end": 774.0400000000001, "text": " vaguely like a competition reality TV show. It's not a competition." }, { "start": 774.04, "end": 779.3199999999999, "text": " Are we allowed to talk to them? Of course I mean if you're in a client's home and you have a" }, { "start": 779.3199999999999, "end": 784.04, "text": " toddler who was nagging at your feet or legs. So you're comparing me to a nagging toddler?" }, { "start": 784.04, "end": 792.04, "text": " No I'm just saying that there are a lot of unexpected situations so yeah you should talk to all of our friends." }, { "start": 792.04, "end": 798.16, "text": " I'm Malika I'm originally from Little Rock Arkansas so I'm a Southern Belle so to speak." }, { "start": 798.16, "end": 806.64, "text": " I've been in New York a couple years and literally the second week I was here I had friends here." }, { "start": 806.64, "end": 812.8399999999999, "text": " So they were like oh we're doing a party can you come cater it and after that it was like continuous." }, { "start": 812.8399999999999, "end": 819.4399999999999, "text": " How did you hear about kitchen surfing? I was it was a random opportunity I saw online I believe." }, { "start": 819.4399999999999, "end": 826, "text": " I was just kind of looking at different private chef opportunities and I love" }, { "start": 826, "end": 830.96, "text": " like the startup culture and that's another I love like digital stuff and just kind of came across it" }, { "start": 830.96, "end": 836, "text": " which is great for the kitchen server because that means that the name is out there and people know about it." }, { "start": 836, "end": 841.28, "text": " So I started reading and I was just like oh this is something that I love." }, { "start": 841.28, "end": 845.76, "text": " A lot of New Yorkers don't have a ton of space you know every home in New York doesn't have a sous vide in it." }, { "start": 845.76, "end": 850.8, "text": " So how do chefs adapt to that? So I mean the chefs are punk rock like you give them a heat" }, { "start": 850.8, "end": 855.68, "text": " you give them a heat source and they're good. So you just have a Bunsen burner or like a hot plate." }, { "start": 855.68, "end": 859.52, "text": " Totally, totally like that's actually like a creative like constraint for a chef." }, { "start": 859.52, "end": 865.12, "text": " When you pitch somebody on a menu you're assuming they have the basic things to cook on or cook with." }, { "start": 865.12, "end": 870.9599999999999, "text": " You know what I mean anything extra is always exciting to have but you've already sort of" }, { "start": 870.9599999999999, "end": 875.5999999999999, "text": " shown up with a planned menu so you're not going to start doing you know a sous vide dish when" }, { "start": 876.16, "end": 881.52, "text": " you know the steaks are going on the grill like you you might mess around I don't know it just seems a little." }, { "start": 881.52, "end": 889.1999999999999, "text": " It is nice to have challenges thrown your way because when you have to get dinner on the table at eight" }, { "start": 889.1999999999999, "end": 893.4399999999999, "text": " if something unexpected happens you still have to figure out a way to feed those people because" }, { "start": 893.4399999999999, "end": 898.64, "text": " they really don't care what the problem is. I've done like some events or catering spaces" }, { "start": 898.64, "end": 902.88, "text": " just about a couple months ago I went into a place where I thought I was going to have a kitchen and I didn't." }, { "start": 902.88, "end": 906.24, "text": " So you just have to wing it. Wait I'm sorry so you were asked to cook somewhere where there was" }, { "start": 906.24, "end": 911.04, "text": " literally no kitchen? There was no kitchen. Was there a hot plate or? There was supposedly a hot plate unfortunately" }, { "start": 911.04, "end": 917.8399999999999, "text": " there wasn't but thankfully. So you were making a fire like what? I had some sternos and some pants going and" }, { "start": 918.64, "end": 922.7199999999999, "text": " but we got through it it's a challenge it's almost like okay well I met that challenge I can kind of" }, { "start": 922.7199999999999, "end": 927.04, "text": " move on to the next thing and see what happens. Just out of curiosity do you believe that anyone can cook?" }, { "start": 927.8399999999999, "end": 931.92, "text": " Do you really think because I'm telling you sometimes I look at myself and I see these" }, { "start": 931.92, "end": 937.8399999999999, "text": " ogre hands trying to manipulate even the most basic things and it's easy to get um" }, { "start": 937.84, "end": 945.52, "text": " to feel defeated. Is there hope? Can I get beyond just making egg sandwiches?" }, { "start": 945.52, "end": 951.52, "text": " Which I am great at. I think anyone can cook with the right ingredients and just patience." }, { "start": 952.4, "end": 957.2800000000001, "text": " Without patience you probably can't do a lot of cooking and it will be egg sandwiches." }, { "start": 957.2800000000001, "end": 961.2, "text": " Yeah so I know that's a blow torch I know that much and I've never done this before" }, { "start": 961.9200000000001, "end": 965.52, "text": " and I'm just I'm a little jealous that like you get to play with blow torches" }, { "start": 965.52, "end": 970.88, "text": " and I'd like to try. Absolutely. All right so what is the proper blow torching technique?" }, { "start": 971.68, "end": 975.92, "text": " All right so this is like the small little kitchen one I do for like probably about this one." }, { "start": 975.92, "end": 981.52, "text": " So this is a safety we all need that so you pull that down and then if you want a continuous um" }, { "start": 982.3199999999999, "end": 990.64, "text": " fire I do push this button to hold it and then flame on. Oh wait wait for it flame on." }, { "start": 990.64, "end": 997.4399999999999, "text": " There we go now get close and go slow. You know I'm considering this as my application video for" }, { "start": 997.4399999999999, "end": 1001.6, "text": " Top Chef. This is exciting and a little terrifying I can't tell you this is actually really hot." }, { "start": 1002.96, "end": 1010.3199999999999, "text": " This is no joke. And you're done. You don't want to over brulee. I don't don't that's a classic" }, { "start": 1010.32, "end": 1020.96, "text": " rookie mistake. All right it's a little darker than yours but um you know I'll eat that one." }, { "start": 1020.96, "end": 1026.24, "text": " In theory you know five years from now if kitchen surfing keeps growing there are gonna be chefs who" }, { "start": 1026.24, "end": 1032.16, "text": " built their brands from kitchen surfing who have a following you know what's to say the next big" }, { "start": 1032.16, "end": 1037.6000000000001, "text": " celebrity chef isn't grown entirely from the internet and entirely from something like." }, { "start": 1037.6, "end": 1041.9199999999998, "text": " I think it's I think it's totally possible. At the end of the day you have to be a good cook." }, { "start": 1041.9199999999998, "end": 1046.08, "text": " I think some people know exactly who they are I think some people are still figuring that out." }, { "start": 1046.08, "end": 1053.04, "text": " I know that my cooking has changed um you know I thought I did mostly Italian but now I realize you" }, { "start": 1053.04, "end": 1057.52, "text": " know it's more Italians Mediterranean but it's really New York inspired because I don't if" }, { "start": 1057.52, "end": 1062, "text": " if there's a good ingredient I want to use it and figure out a way to incorporate into my own style" }, { "start": 1062, "end": 1066.7199999999998, "text": " but the only way you develop that is by doing it over and over and over again. One of the things" }, { "start": 1066.72, "end": 1072.4, "text": " that's the most gratifying about kitchen surfing is seeing that it can be so many different things" }, { "start": 1072.4, "end": 1077.28, "text": " to so many different people. It might be like a woman who like just wants to teach people like" }, { "start": 1077.28, "end": 1081.44, "text": " maybe she's from you know India and she wants to teach people how to make parathas and that's like" }, { "start": 1081.44, "end": 1085.2, "text": " all she wants to do and then she loves doing that like once a month and that's awesome." }, { "start": 1087.1200000000001, "end": 1093.52, "text": " What is the best lesson you would give to someone who is struggling or is thinking about getting" }, { "start": 1093.52, "end": 1098.6399999999999, "text": " into a similar kind of sort of market system? Don't think about the technology. For me it's" }, { "start": 1098.6399999999999, "end": 1104, "text": " really all about people and it's always about people. What I actually think that we're doing" }, { "start": 1104, "end": 1109.44, "text": " with kitchen surfing is that we're giving context for people to like enjoy more time with people" }, { "start": 1109.44, "end": 1114.4, "text": " they care about and that the food needs to be really good because people like great food" }, { "start": 1114.4, "end": 1118.8799999999999, "text": " but that it's almost like a background. 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[ { "start": 0, "end": 6.32, "text": " It's Monday, November 11th, 2013. I'm Leah Sigler and I swear if I hear another Christmas song" }, { "start": 6.32, "end": 11.6, "text": " before Thanksgiving, someone is getting a meeting with Gertrude and Linus Sigler." }, { "start": 11.6, "end": 16, "text": " This is 90 seconds on the verse. Amazon has announced a partnership with the struggling" }, { "start": 16, "end": 21.12, "text": " U.S. Postal Service that will see the retailer deliver packages on Sundays for all customers." }, { "start": 21.12, "end": 25.92, "text": " For now, the services will only be available to New York and Los Angeles metropolitan areas," }, { "start": 25.92, "end": 31.360000000000003, "text": " but Amazon plans to expand to other cities in 2014. We've been seeing a splash of curved glass" }, { "start": 31.360000000000003, "end": 36.160000000000004, "text": " phones recently, but Apple may finally prove its usefulness. A report from Bloomberg yesterday" }, { "start": 36.160000000000004, "end": 41.52, "text": " stated that Apple's rumored large iPhones may utilize a glass display that curves at the edge." }, { "start": 41.52, "end": 47.6, "text": " The 4.7 and 5.5 inch smartphones may also contain touch screens that can detect different levels of" }, { "start": 47.6, "end": 53.28, "text": " pressure. Meanwhile, the always rumored Apple TV set is reportedly being delayed by content deals," }, { "start": 53.28, "end": 57.84, "text": " pushing the possible introduction date into 2015 at the earliest. And finally," }, { "start": 57.84, "end": 63.28, "text": " Superman and Batman might be getting help from some girls. Girls star Adam Driver is reportedly" }, { "start": 63.28, "end": 68.16, "text": " the front runner to play Nightwing in the upcoming Batman and Superman film. Producers are also" }, { "start": 68.16, "end": 73.44, "text": " testing several quote, athletic and exotic actresses for a role in the film that many" }, { "start": 73.44, "end": 77.84, "text": " believe to be Wonder Woman. We'll see which superheroes actually end up reporting for duty" }, { "start": 77.84, "end": 83.36, "text": " when the film hits theaters in July 2015. That's it for today's top stories. Coming up tomorrow," }, { "start": 83.36, "end": 111.12, "text": " I test out the iWatch, not the Apple wearable, but the contact lens that tells you the time." } ]

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And I've been banging around" }, { "start": 31.119999999999997, "end": 35.08, "text": " it without actually any help because it's just this familiar..." }, { "start": 35.08, "end": 36.48, "text": " Yeah, no trouble picking it up at all." }, { "start": 36.48, "end": 42.879999999999995, "text": " So I can just say, Xbox, watch TV. So it's going to launch right into TV." }, { "start": 42.879999999999995, "end": 49.239999999999995, "text": " That's great. And then I can say, Xbox, Xbox, One guide. You have to kind of end a sentence" }, { "start": 49.239999999999995, "end": 55.18, "text": " before you start saying Xbox, otherwise it kind of, it needs to listen to you. So, Xbox," }, { "start": 55.18, "end": 59.76, "text": " One guide. And there's your programming guide." }, { "start": 59.76, "end": 62.56, "text": " I mean, I actually just want to stay right on Coed Nightmares. I don't know why I'm" }, { "start": 62.56, "end": 68.72, "text": " watching anything else. What's on the Discovery Channel? It's going to jump to the Discovery" }, { "start": 68.72, "end": 74.96000000000001, "text": " Channel. And I can just say, watch this channel. Watch this channel. And it's going to change" }, { "start": 74.96000000000001, "end": 78.52, "text": " the channel right to the Discovery Channel. So this is the thing I haven't complained" }, { "start": 78.52, "end": 81.03999999999999, "text": " about, which is it's showing me the Comcast guide. But it goes right away." }, { "start": 81.03999999999999, "end": 84.84, "text": " We are definitely watching TV right through your Comcast box that you already had in your" }, { "start": 84.84, "end": 85.84, "text": " TV." }, { "start": 85.84, "end": 89.04, "text": " Yeah. So, I mean, that's, the TV integration is there. The guide looks really pretty. There" }, { "start": 89.04, "end": 93.08, "text": " are app channels. So I can say, Xbox. I've got to stop. 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So now it's showing me, this is right built in the guide. It's" }, { "start": 121.44, "end": 127.64, "text": " showing me what's on all these various services, including the NFL. We have an NFL partnership" }, { "start": 127.64, "end": 130.28, "text": " and what's on your SkyDrive, which is very interesting. So this is my SkyDrive, which" }, { "start": 130.28, "end": 131.28, "text": " I already loaded up." }, { "start": 131.28, "end": 133.48000000000002, "text": " That's your camera roll right off your cloud-based drive." }, { "start": 133.48000000000002, "end": 138.56, "text": " Xbox. Go to Internet Explorer. And it's going to jump right into Internet Explorer." }, { "start": 138.56, "end": 139.88, "text": " It did it well that time." }, { "start": 139.88, "end": 140.88, "text": " It did a great job." }, { "start": 140.88, "end": 145.51999999999998, "text": " And we've loaded a great website here called The Verge. 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This is the worst." }, { "start": 197.92, "end": 201.72, "text": " Yeah, but the fact is the game was still running and you did all these other things and hopped" }, { "start": 201.72, "end": 202.72, "text": " right back into it." }, { "start": 202.72, "end": 207.35999999999999, "text": " Hold on. I've got to crash this car. So that's the Xbox dashboard. As far as I can tell," }, { "start": 207.35999999999999, "end": 213.56, "text": " it's running very smoothly right now. You've got about 27 days before you launch this thing." }, { "start": 213.56, "end": 217.23999999999998, "text": " It's running super smoothly. You can jump back and forth between games and sort of the" }, { "start": 217.23999999999998, "end": 222.66, "text": " shared app Windows 8-ish experience in the home screen really fast. 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games always looking" }, { "start": 613.72, "end": 614.72, "text": " bigger." }, { "start": 614.72, "end": 619.46, "text": " But that shared side, that app side, is really interesting, and you're going to see lots" }, { "start": 619.46, "end": 621.64, "text": " of evolution and lots of change there." }, { "start": 621.64, "end": 623.6, "text": " So Windows app developers, they can just publish to Windows." }, { "start": 623.6, "end": 624.6, "text": " Oh, yeah, totally." }, { "start": 624.6, "end": 625.6, "text": " I'd throw it out there." }, { "start": 625.6, "end": 629, "text": " If you know how to write an app for Windows, you know how to write an app for Xbox One." }, { "start": 629, "end": 633.08, "text": " The big disruptive innovation for television hasn't really occurred yet, right?" }, { "start": 633.08, "end": 639.44, "text": " And even the Xbox One requires a cable box with a pretty crappy UI to get the full experience" }, { "start": 639.44, "end": 640.44, "text": " out of." 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That's" }, { "start": 59.52, "end": 64.04, "text": " a story. That's actually a story that I heard. Well, we, so generally Vlad and I get into" }, { "start": 64.04, "end": 68.96000000000001, "text": " a debate about vegetables. I mean, and it's not something, it's not something that I'm" }, { "start": 68.96000000000001, "end": 74.52000000000001, "text": " trying to do. It just happens. Vegetables, I believe are the oldest mobile technology." }, { "start": 74.52000000000001, "end": 78.76, "text": " You can take them anywhere. Yeah. I've been told by the producer that I'm not speaking" }, { "start": 78.76, "end": 83.16, "text": " to my mic, so I apologize. Is this, is this better? Is this better? Hello. I've been told" }, { "start": 83.16, "end": 89.44, "text": " by the producer something, so in return I will troll the producer directly to the microphone." }, { "start": 89.44, "end": 93.56, "text": " Anyway, we're here. There's a lot going on. This is obviously our show where we cover" }, { "start": 93.56, "end": 99.6, "text": " technology, technology culture, vegetables, vegetables, really just a wide range of foods" }, { "start": 99.6, "end": 106.47999999999999, "text": " and things that have lights. So big news already today. It's happening right now as we speak." }, { "start": 106.47999999999999, "end": 110.44, "text": " People who work at Twitter got rich and they are getting richer by the minute as far as" }, { "start": 110.44, "end": 114.48, "text": " I can tell. Yes. I actually don't know what the stock is at now, but Twitter's IPO is" }, { "start": 114.48, "end": 122, "text": " today. It started at 26, which yesterday led to an incredible wave of asinine stories about" }, { "start": 122, "end": 129, "text": " whether it would be $25, $27 or $26 with a lot of debate and punditry about the relative" }, { "start": 129, "end": 133.76, "text": " value of each of those numbers, which was wonderful and I'm glad that I read any of" }, { "start": 133.76, "end": 139.16, "text": " it. Experts say 26 is worth less than 27. What are you doing? Do you guys want to hear" }, { "start": 139.16, "end": 146.8, "text": " a fun fact about stocks? It used to be that if a symbol for a company had four letters," }, { "start": 146.8, "end": 151.35999999999999, "text": " it meant that it was on NASDAQ. Oh yeah. And if it had a different number of letters, it" }, { "start": 151.35999999999999, "end": 157.72, "text": " meant that it was on the New York Stock Exchange. But as ticker symbols became something you" }, { "start": 157.72, "end": 163.6, "text": " could negotiate on, like vanity ticker symbols became a thing, they dropped that. And so" }, { "start": 163.6, "end": 169.32, "text": " now you can no longer tell. Twitter is TWTR. That would have been NASDAQ before, but they" }, { "start": 169.32, "end": 174.16, "text": " debuted on the New York Stock Exchange. Oh, young rebels. If they were ballers, they would" }, { "start": 174.16, "end": 180.84, "text": " have taken T from AT&T. AT&T has T? Yeah. It would be cool if they had the ampersand." }, { "start": 180.84, "end": 184.88, "text": " The oldest companies in the world have one or two letters on the stock exchange. And" }, { "start": 184.88, "end": 191.92, "text": " Pandora. Their P? Pandora has P. That's amazing. Well, Pandora is 125 years old. Pandora was" }, { "start": 191.92, "end": 198.16, "text": " founded by Franklin Roosevelt. I feel like a company could just buy some older company" }, { "start": 198.16, "end": 203.27999999999997, "text": " just to be baller and get their ticker symbol. That's actually what happened to AT&T. AT&T" }, { "start": 203.27999999999997, "end": 210, "text": " is currently constituted as not AT&T. It's SBC, which was Ameritech. They broke up AT&T" }, { "start": 210, "end": 216.76, "text": " into a thousand pieces and then they reconstituted themselves into SBC. And then SBC bought AT&T" }, { "start": 216.76, "end": 220.95999999999998, "text": " and they're like, screw this other brand, we'll be AT&T again. And now they're AT&T" }, { "start": 220.96, "end": 225.68, "text": " again. Have you seen the Stephen Colbert thing about that? No. You guys should Google it" }, { "start": 225.68, "end": 230.20000000000002, "text": " right now. It's like one of the most amazing 90 seconds ever on television. Oh, it just" }, { "start": 230.20000000000002, "end": 234.48000000000002, "text": " goes in the circle? Yeah. Yeah. It's really good. I mean, look, why wouldn't you want" }, { "start": 234.48000000000002, "end": 238.96, "text": " the AT&T brand name, which stands for nothing but reliable customer service and excellent" }, { "start": 238.96, "end": 244.48000000000002, "text": " signal quality throughout America? So Twitter's apparently at 4,494 right now. I just saw" }, { "start": 244.48000000000002, "end": 250.68, "text": " 45. Which means that as of this moment, at Williams is worth $11 billion precisely. Yeah." }, { "start": 250.68, "end": 256.24, "text": " No, there's like, okay, so there's a ton of Twitter stuff going on, right? 4510 is what" }, { "start": 256.24, "end": 260.6, "text": " it opened at. So people made a lot of money, which is in stark contrast to what happened" }, { "start": 260.6, "end": 265.28000000000003, "text": " with Facebook where it went down and then like the servers all crashed. Right. Like" }, { "start": 265.28000000000003, "end": 270.64, "text": " little old like grannies around America were like driven, like throwing themselves. One" }, { "start": 270.64, "end": 274.72, "text": " thing that was really interesting about the Facebook IPO was that it was a record setter" }, { "start": 274.72, "end": 278.92, "text": " in terms of volume. Like the number of people buying and selling shares, which I don't know" }, { "start": 278.92, "end": 281.84000000000003, "text": " exactly what that means. I guess there was a lot of disagreement on whether it was worth" }, { "start": 281.84000000000003, "end": 285.6, "text": " anything. Yeah. There were like an unprecedented number of people who thought it was worth" }, { "start": 285.6, "end": 290.68, "text": " nothing and an unprecedented number of people who thought it was worth a fortune. And I'm" }, { "start": 290.68, "end": 293.96000000000004, "text": " kind of curious about what the volume was like for Twitter, although I don't think that" }, { "start": 293.96000000000004, "end": 299.84000000000003, "text": " that's been published anywhere yet. Well, I think the thing with Facebook was like definitely" }, { "start": 299.84000000000003, "end": 304.36, "text": " a huge swath of like regular people thought it was their opportunity to be part of the" }, { "start": 304.36, "end": 307.68, "text": " next Google. Right. Because it's a big Internet company they heard about, you're probably" }, { "start": 307.68, "end": 312.2, "text": " using it and people know that if you invest in Google at the right time, you got rich." }, { "start": 312.2, "end": 316.8, "text": " And I think that was real for Facebook. I don't think that's the case for Twitter. Either" }, { "start": 316.8, "end": 320.64, "text": " their whole process has been really quiet and well managed and nobody's like, there" }, { "start": 320.64, "end": 324.6, "text": " are no like stunning revelations about Twitter in the mix like there were with Facebook." }, { "start": 324.6, "end": 328.64, "text": " They're run by a Michigan graduate, which is always a good thing. Yeah. He used to be" }, { "start": 328.64, "end": 334.16, "text": " a standup comedian. So really that degree really helped him out right after graduation." }, { "start": 334.16, "end": 337.8, "text": " It's true by the way, Dick Casull used to be a standup comedian. Credits Second City" }, { "start": 337.8, "end": 343.76000000000005, "text": " in Chicago for teaching him everything he knows. Again, not a great indictment of the" }, { "start": 343.76000000000005, "end": 350.52000000000004, "text": " University of Michigan, but I guess it works. He's got the logo there. But Twitter doesn't" }, { "start": 350.52000000000004, "end": 353.64000000000004, "text": " have these problems, right? Like people know what Twitter is, they kind of know where the" }, { "start": 353.64000000000004, "end": 357.8, "text": " business is going. There's no like stunning last minute, by the way, all of our users" }, { "start": 357.8, "end": 360.74, "text": " are on mobile and we haven't put ads on that yet. So we don't know. Right. And there was" }, { "start": 360.74, "end": 364.40000000000003, "text": " also a much shorter lead time for how long everybody knew. You know, like the exact date" }, { "start": 364.40000000000003, "end": 369.24, "text": " wasn't like with Facebook, everybody knew it was coming much further in advance. Right." }, { "start": 369.24, "end": 374.12, "text": " And I zoned out a second ago when you were talking about Google, but like the Google" }, { "start": 374.12, "end": 377.48, "text": " IPO and I'm going to get out of my depth here. The Google IPO was interesting because they" }, { "start": 377.48, "end": 382.04, "text": " designed it so that there wouldn't be a bump on the first day. Right. Okay. You said that" }, { "start": 382.04, "end": 384.6, "text": " already. I didn't say it already. Oh, okay. You just weren't paying attention. I should" }, { "start": 384.6, "end": 390.72, "text": " have lied. So that didn't happen with Facebook and it did happen with Twitter. Well, Google" }, { "start": 390.72, "end": 395.88000000000005, "text": " IPO is like super engineered, right? But like people who bought into it, not that first" }, { "start": 395.88000000000005, "end": 399.32000000000005, "text": " day bump, which made people rich, but people who like bought in early are obviously very" }, { "start": 399.32000000000005, "end": 403.08000000000004, "text": " rich now. And I think that's what it was with Facebook was like, this is my opportunity." }, { "start": 403.08000000000004, "end": 406.8, "text": " This is like my golden ticket. I think that's why a lot of like mom and pop investors bought" }, { "start": 406.8, "end": 411.56, "text": " it. I just, I think, and this is what, whatever IPO stuff aside, this is actually, I think" }, { "start": 411.56, "end": 415.8, "text": " Twitter's big story and what Casey wrote a report about it, about their redesign, but" }, { "start": 415.8, "end": 418.64000000000004, "text": " the stuff they're doing, I don't think regular people know what Twitter is. I don't think" }, { "start": 418.64, "end": 421.84, "text": " they know how to use it. I don't know what it's for. And I think it's really hard if" }, { "start": 421.84, "end": 425.08, "text": " you're a normal person to sign up for Twitter and do anything with it. Twitter quitters," }, { "start": 425.08, "end": 429.08, "text": " right? Like it's a real thing. Like there's a real thing or is that a rhyme? Well, it's" }, { "start": 429.08, "end": 434.26, "text": " both, it's both. It's a real thing that is conveniently a rhyme. Yeah. Uh, but there's" }, { "start": 434.26, "end": 437.8, "text": " this whole notion of people who sign up and realize that they don't understand what it" }, { "start": 437.8, "end": 441.56, "text": " is or how to use it or why nobody's following them and then they quit. Right. And then go" }, { "start": 441.56, "end": 445.91999999999996, "text": " back to Facebook. So yeah, I mean, that's not going to think for them. Oh man, there's" }, { "start": 445.92, "end": 450.48, "text": " Silk Road news happening right now. What's happening? I gotta go. I don't know. I don't" }, { "start": 450.48, "end": 454.84000000000003, "text": " know yet. Where can you go? Isn't this a virtual community? Like I have to go somewhere else" }, { "start": 454.84000000000003, "end": 459.08000000000004, "text": " and use this laptop. What's happening? Um, Russell's about to inform me. We're breaking" }, { "start": 459.08000000000004, "end": 463.28000000000003, "text": " news. Can we get like a scrolling breaking news thing on the screen right now? Oh, it's" }, { "start": 463.28000000000003, "end": 468.20000000000005, "text": " about the new Silk Road, the 2.0 Silk Road. There's a new Silk Road. Yeah. Yeah. For all" }, { "start": 468.20000000000005, "end": 473.20000000000005, "text": " your drug buying needs. Why isn't it called Silk Road Reloaded? That's the obvious name." }, { "start": 473.2, "end": 480.2, "text": " It's like really obvious. It's a picture of a syringe. It's like, so it's a gift of a" }, { "start": 480.2, "end": 484.24, "text": " syringe. Yeah. It's slowly filling up again. Yeah. Oh yeah. It's the purest heroin you" }, { "start": 484.24, "end": 488.32, "text": " can buy. Well, their, their competitor was called black market reloaded. So that could" }, { "start": 488.32, "end": 492.59999999999997, "text": " be, it could be brand confusion there. Right. Yeah. It's dilution. You don't want to file" }, { "start": 492.59999999999997, "end": 496.03999999999996, "text": " that lawsuit. Yeah. All right. Anyway, what were we talking about? Twitter? I mean, I'm" }, { "start": 496.03999999999996, "end": 500.44, "text": " always talking to Twitter. How much Twitter do you own? Zero Twitter. I own zero. Do you" }, { "start": 500.44, "end": 507.12, "text": " guys remember when, um, Justin Bieber accounted for 3% of Twitter's servers? Yes. I mean," }, { "start": 507.12, "end": 510.71999999999997, "text": " that was when Twitter was running on like four Mac minis and went down every other day." }, { "start": 510.71999999999997, "end": 514.8, "text": " Do you think that he also accounts for 3% of Twitter's investment? Do you think that" }, { "start": 514.8, "end": 518.56, "text": " he's a billionaire now? No, that's what I was saying before. That's how it works. Like" }, { "start": 518.56, "end": 523.76, "text": " you get an, a share for every Twitter follower you have. Well then I'm, I'm retired. Yeah." }, { "start": 523.76, "end": 530.64, "text": " Then I have 1400 shares. It's the best. Um, no, look, I like Twitter's redesigned this," }, { "start": 530.64, "end": 534.8, "text": " this new version of their app, which is designed to make it easier to do stuff. I'm accidentally" }, { "start": 534.8, "end": 538.04, "text": " following like every single person who tweets at me cause it's the follow button and the" }, { "start": 538.04, "end": 542.16, "text": " timeline is right where I scroll. Yep. So I, I favorite literally every tweet now in" }, { "start": 542.16, "end": 548.12, "text": " accident. Yeah. Like every tweet you're turning into Mike Isaac. Yes. That's exactly like" }, { "start": 548.12, "end": 550.8, "text": " everything that they're doing, like redesigning it. They're making it friendlier. They're" }, { "start": 550.8, "end": 554.3599999999999, "text": " going to like make the ads more integrated. There's like huge pictures everywhere and" }, { "start": 554.3599999999999, "end": 558.0799999999999, "text": " they're turning it into Facebook. There's like no doubt in my mind that that's the way" }, { "start": 558.0799999999999, "end": 563.04, "text": " they need to grow in this. Well that sucks. Well, but like, do you, like, do you want" }, { "start": 563.04, "end": 567.3399999999999, "text": " to run a business that's predicated on like celebrities and media people tweeting at each" }, { "start": 567.3399999999999, "end": 573.5999999999999, "text": " other? Cause I don't think that you can grow. Like there is a finite number of celebrities" }, { "start": 573.5999999999999, "end": 578.8, "text": " big enough to like be meaningful on Twitter. Well, I will say that about 80% of entertainment" }, { "start": 578.8, "end": 585.24, "text": " and E and us weekly stories now involve a tweet. Yeah. So they've definitely cracked" }, { "start": 585.24, "end": 588.4799999999999, "text": " that market wide open, whatever that market is. Yeah, but Twitter doesn't make any money" }, { "start": 588.4799999999999, "end": 593.14, "text": " from that. Like when entertainment. Yeah. But like when entertainment tonight like goes" }, { "start": 593.14, "end": 598.12, "text": " on television with a tweet and they have like their own big shiny TV ads next to it, like" }, { "start": 598.12, "end": 601.68, "text": " coming up next, guess what Kanye tweeted today? It's like, guess who didn't make any money" }, { "start": 601.68, "end": 606.3199999999999, "text": " from this? Twitter.com. Like it doesn't matter. Like they need to figure out how to get all" }, { "start": 606.32, "end": 610.84, "text": " that action happening on Twitter. And I don't think that happened. Right. I mean, they've" }, { "start": 610.84, "end": 615.48, "text": " been trying, they've been doing a few weird experiments lately, right? They have the," }, { "start": 615.48, "end": 620.48, "text": " the magic racks, which is now like a real service. It's baked into a magic racks. Yeah." }, { "start": 620.48, "end": 626.9200000000001, "text": " REC. Magic racks too. No magic racks is bet is baked into the latest version of the app," }, { "start": 626.9200000000001, "end": 630.12, "text": " right? If I'm not mistaken, whatever. All I know is that this app is the ugliest app" }, { "start": 630.12, "end": 633.4000000000001, "text": " in the world now. And event parent is the other one. I don't know what that is. Parent" }, { "start": 633.4, "end": 637.52, "text": " does not work yet. What is that? It's supposed to be breaking news alerts, but it just doesn't" }, { "start": 637.52, "end": 641.68, "text": " really, it hasn't broken any news in days. No, but, but you know, I couldn't know about" }, { "start": 641.68, "end": 648.76, "text": " the IPO. Did you get that? But look, I can't remember who made this point on Twitter, but" }, { "start": 648.76, "end": 654.1999999999999, "text": " somebody made the, I think salient point that magic or not magic racks event parent is not" }, { "start": 654.1999999999999, "end": 659.3, "text": " for people like you and I it's for like the normals who they want to use Twitter as a" }, { "start": 659.3, "end": 664.28, "text": " news source and don't care if they get their quote unquote breaking news, 50 minutes late," }, { "start": 664.28, "end": 665.28, "text": " you know," }, { "start": 665.28, "end": 670.3199999999999, "text": " Twitter needs a Butler. Think about this. Imagine this. Jeez. Asked you. Now you sign" }, { "start": 670.3199999999999, "end": 676.8399999999999, "text": " up for Twitter and like a, like a Butler arrives and he's like a physical Butler, shows up" }, { "start": 676.8399999999999, "end": 681.4399999999999, "text": " on your screen and he's like, what are you interested in? What are you, who are you?" }, { "start": 681.4399999999999, "end": 685.9599999999999, "text": " You're describing flippy. You realize, you know, it has like a little conversation with" }, { "start": 685.96, "end": 692.0400000000001, "text": " you about your, your needs and wants and interests and it curates a, like a selection of things" }, { "start": 692.0400000000001, "end": 696.6800000000001, "text": " for you to follow. You're describing this really creepy hybrid of like a Amazon mayday" }, { "start": 696.6800000000001, "end": 703.2, "text": " and, and clippy. Yeah. It's Amazon mayday, clippy, and then like the, the scariest like" }, { "start": 703.2, "end": 708.52, "text": " user profiling, like humanly possible. And then that's what normal people need to make" }, { "start": 708.52, "end": 713.4000000000001, "text": " effective use of Twitter. Let's get on this. You're actually right. Unfortunately, right." }, { "start": 713.4, "end": 717.16, "text": " It's like you, you show up and it's like, please let me just log into one web page." }, { "start": 717.16, "end": 721.48, "text": " Like go to this webpage. It's full of like tracking cookies and it will construct a profile" }, { "start": 721.48, "end": 727.76, "text": " for you. Yeah. It is still like pretty complicated. Like Twitter almost has its own like very" }, { "start": 727.76, "end": 732.24, "text": " limited little programming language with hashtags and at replies that somebody who's totally" }, { "start": 732.24, "end": 738.12, "text": " new to it, it's still really confusing and God help the normals. If they find weird trip" }, { "start": 738.12, "end": 743.32, "text": " Twitter, then it's game over. Right. Yeah. Like, right. Or I mean all that is like find" }, { "start": 743.32, "end": 748.48, "text": " most of our staff. Right. I mean like that's kind of, it's just out there. It's, it's waiting" }, { "start": 748.48, "end": 752.08, "text": " for you. How big is weird Twitter? I feel like it's just some people in Brooklyn. It's" }, { "start": 752.08, "end": 756.76, "text": " like 20 people. Yeah. It's not that big. And like there's somebody who I think is like" }, { "start": 756.76, "end": 762.2, "text": " huge and then it turns out they have like 4,000, 5,000 followers. How many followers" }, { "start": 762.2, "end": 769.2, "text": " does drill have? Like, no, it's like over 20,000 I think. Really? Whatever. Here's what," }, { "start": 769.72, "end": 776.72, "text": " I mean, I just think like 73,000, 73,000. Yeah. Drill. Nevermind. Weird Twitter is real." }, { "start": 776.72, "end": 782.08, "text": " Weird. No, I mean Buzzfeed keeps running incredible lengthy like thought pieces on" }, { "start": 782.08, "end": 786.12, "text": " weird Twitter and what it means. And it's like, I don't, well, New York Times tried" }, { "start": 786.12, "end": 789.32, "text": " to bust open weird Twitter, right? Like a, yeah, a couple of months ago. In the Sunday" }, { "start": 789.32, "end": 793.84, "text": " style section. Oh my God. No, it was in the, it was in the wedding section. It was like" }, { "start": 793.84, "end": 799.24, "text": " weird Twitter was married to me. The bride attended Brown University. Um, I don't know." }, { "start": 799.24, "end": 802.5600000000001, "text": " That's the only New York Times joke I have. Uh, we done talking about Twitter? Here's" }, { "start": 802.5600000000001, "end": 806.5600000000001, "text": " what I know. Your app is ugly. Fix it. Do that. Your stock would go up. Probably get" }, { "start": 806.5600000000001, "end": 810.72, "text": " richer, Jack. Think about it. It just, what should I use? Should I use tweet bot? What" }, { "start": 810.72, "end": 815.44, "text": " do you use? You have an Android phone. I use official app and food suite. Official, official" }, { "start": 815.44, "end": 820.44, "text": " app right here. No, but it's ugly. You just high five for like making a bad choice. Right." }, { "start": 820.44, "end": 824.6800000000001, "text": " But like, look at the end of the day, Twitter has said it time and time again that people" }, { "start": 824.6800000000001, "end": 828.32, "text": " shouldn't make third party apps and I kind of believe them. Like at some point they're" }, { "start": 828.32, "end": 833.5600000000001, "text": " going to be like, okay, our, our API isn't sending out ads because we don't know how" }, { "start": 833.5600000000001, "end": 837.5600000000001, "text": " to do that without you filtering them out. So you just, we're just going to shut off" }, { "start": 837.5600000000001, "end": 841.12, "text": " the fire hose and you have to use the official app. So I don't want my heart to be broken" }, { "start": 841.12, "end": 844.2, "text": " in 2014 is what I'm saying. I'm just going to stay on the official app. You're just going" }, { "start": 844.2, "end": 847.6, "text": " to let your heart be broken every time you look at the horrific nature of the current" }, { "start": 847.6, "end": 850.5600000000001, "text": " system. Yes, and favorite every tweet. Just why would you do that? They're like, let's" }, { "start": 850.5600000000001, "end": 854, "text": " add little buttons everywhere. That'll be great. That's what people love. You know," }, { "start": 854, "end": 857, "text": " people love using when they're using their mobile phones, their gigantic thumbs, little" }, { "start": 857, "end": 861.5600000000001, "text": " tiny buttons everywhere. It's just stars all over the page. Seriously, it's like the windows" }, { "start": 861.5600000000001, "end": 865.4000000000001, "text": " CE of mobile apps right now. That's what you made. You made windows 95 for little screen." }, { "start": 865.4000000000001, "end": 870.2800000000001, "text": " What was that Sony UMPC that opened? You know what I'm talking about? The Vio. Yes, the" }, { "start": 870.28, "end": 876.64, "text": " UX 70. It looked awesome. No, not the Vio P. The Vio P was just an unapologetic piece" }, { "start": 876.64, "end": 880.8399999999999, "text": " of crash. It was the sliding. I wrote about it. The weird Sony. We did our, when we did" }, { "start": 880.8399999999999, "end": 885.4, "text": " our weird Sony piece, I have a thing on it. Yeah. It's UX something. Yeah. They made that." }, { "start": 885.4, "end": 888.8399999999999, "text": " That's what your Twitter app is a throwback to that thing, which is not so bad because" }, { "start": 888.8399999999999, "end": 892.16, "text": " that was the height of Sony's hardware powers, but software wise a disaster. Let's talk about" }, { "start": 892.16, "end": 897.24, "text": " the Nexus 5. Speaking of hardware. Do you like that? Just went for it. Yep. Just went" }, { "start": 897.24, "end": 901.84, "text": " for it. UX 280. Adrian, I want you to hold this phone because you have one of the worst" }, { "start": 901.84, "end": 908.84, "text": " phones ever. Too big. Too big. Take it back. Hold it some more. So Adrian has a Droid Incredible" }, { "start": 909.36, "end": 913.84, "text": " 2 with a battery case. An enormous battery on the back of it. That's the extended battery." }, { "start": 913.84, "end": 920.04, "text": " Like wouldn't you want the bulk of your phone to be screen and not like that? I mean, am" }, { "start": 920.04, "end": 925.92, "text": " I crazy? No, because it's just about like holding it. Like I don't want to stretch my" }, { "start": 925.92, "end": 932.04, "text": " fingers this way. I just want to comfortably hold a thing. Yeah. You are the person that" }, { "start": 932.04, "end": 938.56, "text": " I see on the subway who's holding like a shattered iPhone 4 and they seem absolutely delighted" }, { "start": 938.56, "end": 942.52, "text": " with it and I cannot get into their head to understand why. Cracked iPhones are chic." }, { "start": 942.52, "end": 949.52, "text": " Yeah. I can see that. I get that. It makes sense. Brooklyn you mean. Yeah, whatever." }, { "start": 950.48, "end": 955.28, "text": " I mean look, so I have come to the conclusion. Chris, have you played with this yet? Very" }, { "start": 955.28, "end": 959.12, "text": " briefly played with Dan's. So that is Dan's actually. I forgot mine at home. So I just" }, { "start": 959.12, "end": 963.88, "text": " stole Dan's and ran away. Thanks Dan. Thanks buddy. I've come to the conclusion that I" }, { "start": 963.88, "end": 970.8, "text": " truly deeply dislike that phone. That I think it feels very, very cheap and that sense of" }, { "start": 970.8, "end": 975.72, "text": " cheapness I think makes it feel more like a reference design. Like when you, you know" }, { "start": 975.72, "end": 981.12, "text": " when you go to CS or EFA or whatever and like you go into the Qualcomm booth and they're" }, { "start": 981.12, "end": 984.48, "text": " like look at what our new chip can do and it's like just in a totally generic case." }, { "start": 984.48, "end": 989.9200000000001, "text": " Yeah. That's that. I swear to God that that's that. And we have this line in our, you know" }, { "start": 989.9200000000001, "end": 995.32, "text": " Dieter did, Dieter and David did a report with Matthias and like Hiroshi and Dave, like" }, { "start": 995.32, "end": 1001.24, "text": " all the guys from Google and Matthias is like it's really serious plastic. No hardcore plastic." }, { "start": 1001.24, "end": 1008.24, "text": " It's hardcore plastic. Yes, that is hardcore plastic. Oh God. This camera has a long history" }, { "start": 1008.32, "end": 1011.72, "text": " of taking really crappy pictures of me because it has a long history of taking really crappy" }, { "start": 1011.72, "end": 1017.08, "text": " pictures. Well, so here's, here's what I don't understand about the Nexus. There are many" }, { "start": 1017.08, "end": 1021.88, "text": " things to understand about this phone. Why are they spending so much breath talking about" }, { "start": 1021.88, "end": 1025.92, "text": " these ceramic buttons? They're just buttons. Because it's literally the only feature on" }, { "start": 1025.92, "end": 1029.24, "text": " the phone. There's nothing else to talk about. Hey, we made the back white and carved the" }, { "start": 1029.24, "end": 1033.3600000000001, "text": " Nexus logo into it. By the way, what else is there? What other hardware feature is there?" }, { "start": 1033.3600000000001, "end": 1036.52, "text": " The white on the back is exactly like the white of the One X. I don't know if you remember" }, { "start": 1036.52, "end": 1042.52, "text": " like the matte white One X. It's exactly the same. Matte has the same feel. Really? Yep." }, { "start": 1042.52, "end": 1046.56, "text": " Yeah. I mean, I don't know. It's fine. But, but you know, I was saying on Twitter yesterday," }, { "start": 1046.56, "end": 1052.76, "text": " what Google needs to do is like I, they, they've made it very clear. In fact, Dieter's report" }, { "start": 1052.76, "end": 1058.52, "text": " really drove this home. Google is not pulling any punches about the fact that Nexus is about" }, { "start": 1058.52, "end": 1063.44, "text": " a reasonable price and that's fine. I mean, there's, I feel like they accidented into" }, { "start": 1063.44, "end": 1067.64, "text": " that last time. Yeah, but now they've like codified it with this generation of devices." }, { "start": 1067.64, "end": 1072.4, "text": " So like, and that's fine. Like there's a place for that. But Google also needs to make a" }, { "start": 1072.4, "end": 1076.22, "text": " balls to the wall phone and like they're not doing it and no one else is going to make" }, { "start": 1076.22, "end": 1080.44, "text": " a Nexus experience phone with like the best specs. Yeah, but they have made it with the" }, { "start": 1080.44, "end": 1084.92, "text": " best specs. It has a really good screen. The camera blows. But, but yeah, but why, if you're" }, { "start": 1084.92, "end": 1090.88, "text": " Google and you know that Samsung is going to take whatever you make and like throw it" }, { "start": 1090.88, "end": 1094.24, "text": " away and build their own camera app, their own sensor, and Sony's going to do the same" }, { "start": 1094.24, "end": 1099.7600000000002, "text": " thing. HCC is going to do the same thing. Why would you spend $1 on a camera engineer?" }, { "start": 1099.7600000000002, "end": 1104.2, "text": " And that's what the story of this phone is, right? The money of this phone is they put" }, { "start": 1104.2, "end": 1108.24, "text": " it where it's going to make the biggest impact when Android goes out in the world, right?" }, { "start": 1108.24, "end": 1112.3200000000002, "text": " So KitKat is like, they've put a lot of money in KitKat. They did this new Google search" }, { "start": 1112.3200000000002, "end": 1116.2, "text": " app, which is that now actually the launcher and like Google now is like right in front" }, { "start": 1116.2, "end": 1119.88, "text": " of you. They like to be some fonts and design, like all that stuff will like propagate throughout" }, { "start": 1119.88, "end": 1124.16, "text": " the world. But the camera app is like, Samsung's like, what's this bullshit? And like throw" }, { "start": 1124.16, "end": 1129.64, "text": " it away. But, but keep in mind, this is the same company that bid Pi for Nortel's patents" }, { "start": 1129.64, "end": 1138.64, "text": " and just build four floating Google islands. So I don't put it past them to spend a few" }, { "start": 1138.64, "end": 1141.96, "text": " dollars on someone who can make a decent camera. I don't think it's like one person though." }, { "start": 1141.96, "end": 1145.7600000000002, "text": " That's what I'm saying. I think like you have to hire like a universal camera engineer." }, { "start": 1145.7600000000002, "end": 1149.0400000000002, "text": " Actually no, actually this, this, this whole conversation is not right. It's not that they" }, { "start": 1149.04, "end": 1152.76, "text": " need the hardware engineering. It's that they need to tell LG to put a decent camera in" }, { "start": 1152.76, "end": 1153.76, "text": " the phone." }, { "start": 1153.76, "end": 1158.08, "text": " But isn't, I don't think like getting a camera sensor is really the problem. I think it's" }, { "start": 1158.08, "end": 1162.6399999999999, "text": " like writing the driver and the software processing and like the JPEG engine." }, { "start": 1162.6399999999999, "end": 1166.12, "text": " Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's definitely an interplay. I mean, I don't know if, yeah, maybe the sensor" }, { "start": 1166.12, "end": 1167.12, "text": " is as good as the camera." }, { "start": 1167.12, "end": 1172.44, "text": " The sensor in a, it's every stock Android device I've ever used, including the HTC first," }, { "start": 1172.44, "end": 1177.08, "text": " which had the same sensor as some other camera. Miriam, who's now Pebble was telling me it's" }, { "start": 1177.08, "end": 1181.32, "text": " the same sensor in a bunch of these phones and like the software makes radical differences" }, { "start": 1181.32, "end": 1182.32, "text": " across them." }, { "start": 1182.32, "end": 1187.8, "text": " And I'm just saying like, just like, I think the story of this phone is they make them" }, { "start": 1187.8, "end": 1193.6399999999999, "text": " cheap. They sell them like developers buy them, Google nerds buy them. We buy them." }, { "start": 1193.6399999999999, "end": 1197.1599999999999, "text": " God only knows why I keep buying them. And, but there's no incentive to improve the camera" }, { "start": 1197.1599999999999, "end": 1201.08, "text": " because the vast majority of people buy it. The Samsung Galaxy S4 and Samsung build this" }, { "start": 1201.08, "end": 1202.08, "text": " on camera app." }, { "start": 1202.08, "end": 1203.08, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 1203.08, "end": 1206.32, "text": " And that's just the story of Nexus. And like they can lie to us all they want about how" }, { "start": 1206.32, "end": 1210.32, "text": " they finally fixed it. And the camera's great now, but it has never gotten better." }, { "start": 1210.32, "end": 1214.48, "text": " And with 4.4, I think the final nail in the coffin where they've really acknowledged that" }, { "start": 1214.48, "end": 1220.4399999999998, "text": " is the fact that they've taken all of that stuff, closed source. Like it's no longer" }, { "start": 1220.4399999999998, "end": 1225.36, "text": " a stock phone. It's the Google skin on Android is the way you need to think about it. Like" }, { "start": 1225.36, "end": 1230.04, "text": " there's the Samsung skin, the HTC skin and the Google skin on top of this core. But all" }, { "start": 1230.04, "end": 1233.6799999999998, "text": " of the stuff, all the apps that are in this phone are basically closed source now. They've" }, { "start": 1233.68, "end": 1237.96, "text": " all been taken out of AOSP. Even the lock screen is gone. Like, or not the lock screen," }, { "start": 1237.96, "end": 1238.96, "text": " the home screen." }, { "start": 1238.96, "end": 1242.92, "text": " Yeah. But if you want to build a stock Google phone, for lack of a better word, you can" }, { "start": 1242.92, "end": 1244.64, "text": " just go do it. Can't you?" }, { "start": 1244.64, "end": 1251.76, "text": " No. It like, if you, if you get the AOSP, we get the 4.4 AOSP. It has like four apps" }, { "start": 1251.76, "end": 1258.72, "text": " in it and no launcher as I understand it. Like 4.3 is where it tops out. The Nexus 5" }, { "start": 1258.72, "end": 1260.28, "text": " launcher is custom to the Nexus 5." }, { "start": 1260.28, "end": 1261.28, "text": " Really?" }, { "start": 1261.28, "end": 1262.28, "text": " Yep." }, { "start": 1262.28, "end": 1264.8, "text": " So you're saying, Adrian, you're just saying no. By the way, when you're playing with the" }, { "start": 1264.8, "end": 1265.8, "text": " buttons, do you think to yourself," }, { "start": 1265.8, "end": 1268.8, "text": " I was just going to say these, they don't even feel ceramic." }, { "start": 1268.8, "end": 1269.8, "text": " Yeah, they don't." }, { "start": 1269.8, "end": 1272.32, "text": " I don't know what ceramic feels like. I don't even know what it means." }, { "start": 1272.32, "end": 1276.16, "text": " How do you not know what ceramic feels like? Do you not handle dishes ever in your life?" }, { "start": 1276.16, "end": 1280.04, "text": " I don't want it. I don't want dish material for my buttons. Why is that a good thing?" }, { "start": 1280.04, "end": 1283.24, "text": " I don't know. Maybe they made them out of like space shuttle tiles or something. I" }, { "start": 1283.24, "end": 1285.68, "text": " mean, if they're going to lie to me at the camera app, lie to me about what you made" }, { "start": 1285.68, "end": 1289.68, "text": " the buttons out of. We made it out of space shuttles. Then I would buy one. Like, I mean," }, { "start": 1289.68, "end": 1290.68, "text": " I'd buy another one." }, { "start": 1290.68, "end": 1295.48, "text": " That would be an easy buy. Actually, Johnny Ive is auctioning a space shuttle window as" }, { "start": 1295.48, "end": 1299.4, "text": " part of his big charity, his red auction." }, { "start": 1299.4, "end": 1304.5800000000002, "text": " Do you get the feeling that like the reason the iPad Air design is so, like we have one" }, { "start": 1304.5800000000002, "end": 1308.76, "text": " sitting here, but the reason it's like seriously, I got pinched up. I've had many is because" }, { "start": 1308.76, "end": 1311.68, "text": " he was too busy, like, like picking out stuff around the world." }, { "start": 1311.68, "end": 1312.68, "text": " He's like, just make it bigger." }, { "start": 1312.68, "end": 1320.44, "text": " Yeah. He's like, bring me a collection of space shuttle windows. I'm going to die this" }, { "start": 1320.44, "end": 1324.3200000000002, "text": " Mac Pro Red. Like he's like so busy like building a table. He's like, we're not going to worry" }, { "start": 1324.3200000000002, "end": 1325.3200000000002, "text": " about this." }, { "start": 1325.3200000000002, "end": 1330.64, "text": " He definitely spent at least six months on that. Like, there's no question about it." }, { "start": 1330.64, "end": 1333.88, "text": " Is there anything else to talk about? We have to talk about the camera. So you have an Android" }, { "start": 1333.88, "end": 1334.88, "text": " phone." }, { "start": 1334.88, "end": 1335.88, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1335.88, "end": 1337.3600000000001, "text": " How much do you use that camera?" }, { "start": 1337.3600000000001, "end": 1338.6000000000001, "text": " I use it." }, { "start": 1338.6000000000001, "end": 1340.3600000000001, "text": " For things not Snapchat." }, { "start": 1340.3600000000001, "end": 1341.3600000000001, "text": " Ooh." }, { "start": 1341.3600000000001, "end": 1342.3600000000001, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1342.3600000000001, "end": 1343.3600000000001, "text": " Not that much." }, { "start": 1343.3600000000001, "end": 1344.3600000000001, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 1344.3600000000001, "end": 1345.3600000000001, "text": " Actually." }, { "start": 1345.3600000000001, "end": 1346.3600000000001, "text": " Why is that?" }, { "start": 1346.3600000000001, "end": 1349.88, "text": " Well, I'm not on Instagram and you want me to say, cause it's a crappy camera." }, { "start": 1349.88, "end": 1350.88, "text": " I do." }, { "start": 1350.88, "end": 1351.88, "text": " Did you just say you're not on Instagram?" }, { "start": 1351.88, "end": 1355.5600000000002, "text": " I'm not on Instagram. That's two high fives from Chris." }, { "start": 1355.5600000000002, "end": 1356.5600000000002, "text": " Yep." }, { "start": 1356.5600000000002, "end": 1357.5600000000002, "text": " In one VirgCast." }, { "start": 1357.5600000000002, "end": 1359.1200000000001, "text": " For real. And one big drink for Nila." }, { "start": 1359.1200000000001, "end": 1363.1200000000001, "text": " Well, I want you to say cause it's a crappy camera. I mean, I know it's a crappy camera," }, { "start": 1363.1200000000001, "end": 1366.3600000000001, "text": " but do you think it was a better camera? Did you use more?" }, { "start": 1366.3600000000001, "end": 1367.8600000000001, "text": " Yeah. Probably." }, { "start": 1367.8600000000001, "end": 1370.2800000000002, "text": " So why did you pick a phone with a bad camera or did it was a not on the list?" }, { "start": 1370.2800000000002, "end": 1374.5200000000002, "text": " I picked this phone for one reason, which is that it's the right size." }, { "start": 1374.5200000000002, "end": 1375.5200000000002, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1375.52, "end": 1381.04, "text": " And I didn't really think about the camera." }, { "start": 1381.04, "end": 1382.04, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1382.04, "end": 1386.2, "text": " I used to use it more, but I don't know." }, { "start": 1386.2, "end": 1389.36, "text": " Have you played with a Moto X?" }, { "start": 1389.36, "end": 1390.36, "text": " No." }, { "start": 1390.36, "end": 1396.16, "text": " Cause I'm curious, you know, there's this whole new generation of phones where the bezels" }, { "start": 1396.16, "end": 1397.6, "text": " are basically not there." }, { "start": 1397.6, "end": 1401.12, "text": " So like the phones with the big screens no longer feel as big as they used to because" }, { "start": 1401.12, "end": 1403.32, "text": " like the one X is 4.7 I think." }, { "start": 1403.32, "end": 1405.2, "text": " What is the speed roll we're running?" }, { "start": 1405.2, "end": 1408.68, "text": " I'm pretty sure that was an access five ad and I'm pretty sure it was completely insane." }, { "start": 1408.68, "end": 1409.68, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 1409.68, "end": 1410.68, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 1410.68, "end": 1411.68, "text": " Shaky." }, { "start": 1411.68, "end": 1412.68, "text": " No." }, { "start": 1412.68, "end": 1413.68, "text": " Good." }, { "start": 1413.68, "end": 1414.68, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1414.68, "end": 1417.8400000000001, "text": " No, I was just gonna say like, you know, you can get a bigger screen now and the phone" }, { "start": 1417.8400000000001, "end": 1419.88, "text": " doesn't really feel any bigger, which is nice." }, { "start": 1419.88, "end": 1420.88, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1420.88, "end": 1421.88, "text": " I mean, I disagree." }, { "start": 1421.88, "end": 1422.88, "text": " I think it still feels big." }, { "start": 1422.88, "end": 1426.04, "text": " Like to me, you have this massive battery case on the thing." }, { "start": 1426.04, "end": 1429.56, "text": " It's big in the other direction." }, { "start": 1429.56, "end": 1430.56, "text": " I'm just letting that one go." }, { "start": 1430.56, "end": 1432.76, "text": " You just don't know what it's like to have tiny hands." }, { "start": 1432.76, "end": 1435.1200000000001, "text": " I really don't." }, { "start": 1435.12, "end": 1439.6, "text": " It's like this, this phone and the iPhone are what fit in my hand and everything else." }, { "start": 1439.6, "end": 1444, "text": " But you're like, you, you, you lead an Apple free lifestyle." }, { "start": 1444, "end": 1445, "text": " That's true." }, { "start": 1445, "end": 1446, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1446, "end": 1447, "text": " I don't have any Apple products right now." }, { "start": 1447, "end": 1450, "text": " I know people like you, you secretly have an iPod that you use on the train." }, { "start": 1450, "end": 1451, "text": " I know how this works." }, { "start": 1451, "end": 1452, "text": " Whoa." }, { "start": 1452, "end": 1457.12, "text": " I do have an iPod, but it's really old and I, I like never remember to charge it." }, { "start": 1457.12, "end": 1460.2199999999998, "text": " I mean, I have to say living an Apple free lifestyle, but still being dependent in any" }, { "start": 1460.2199999999998, "end": 1462.76, "text": " way on iTunes is like the wrong way to go." }, { "start": 1462.76, "end": 1465.6, "text": " Like I have a bunch of Apple devices, but I never use iTunes." }, { "start": 1465.6, "end": 1468.12, "text": " I guarantee or I'm happier about that." }, { "start": 1468.12, "end": 1469.12, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1469.12, "end": 1470.8, "text": " Like having windows with iTunes in my life." }, { "start": 1470.8, "end": 1471.8, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1471.8, "end": 1472.8, "text": " It's basically the worst." }, { "start": 1472.8, "end": 1473.8, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1473.8, "end": 1477.92, "text": " Um, I remember playing with a Nexus one at CES this year." }, { "start": 1477.92, "end": 1481.8799999999999, "text": " I think Evan brought it or something and I was, and I, you know, I remember owning the" }, { "start": 1481.8799999999999, "end": 1482.8799999999999, "text": " Nexus one." }, { "start": 1482.8799999999999, "end": 1484.6, "text": " I thought it was like big and like great." }, { "start": 1484.6, "end": 1485.6, "text": " The Nexus one was gigantic." }, { "start": 1485.6, "end": 1486.6, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1486.6, "end": 1487.6, "text": " It was a gigantic phone." }, { "start": 1487.6, "end": 1488.76, "text": " The Galaxy Nexus was huge too." }, { "start": 1488.76, "end": 1491.08, "text": " No, but now the Nexus one is tiny." }, { "start": 1491.08, "end": 1493.08, "text": " It's 3.7 inches." }, { "start": 1493.08, "end": 1494.6399999999999, "text": " It was, it was, it was, it was big." }, { "start": 1494.6399999999999, "end": 1495.6399999999999, "text": " It was just big." }, { "start": 1495.6399999999999, "end": 1496.6399999999999, "text": " Not real." }, { "start": 1496.6399999999999, "end": 1501.08, "text": " No, I guarantee if you, if you, if you get a Nexus, you know, is that the big, the universal" }, { "start": 1501.08, "end": 1502.08, "text": " is a spig." }, { "start": 1502.08, "end": 1503.28, "text": " It's real big." }, { "start": 1503.28, "end": 1507.36, "text": " If you pick up a Nexus one now, you'll be like, this is the tiniest thing I've ever" }, { "start": 1507.36, "end": 1508.36, "text": " had in my hands." }, { "start": 1508.36, "end": 1514.5, "text": " Do you remember when the first iPhone came out and Apple used a hand models of really" }, { "start": 1514.5, "end": 1520.6399999999999, "text": " gigantic hands to make it seem small?" }, { "start": 1520.64, "end": 1524.1200000000001, "text": " Apple went through a long run of fake hands and their TV ads and if you ever noticed that" }, { "start": 1524.1200000000001, "end": 1526, "text": " they were fake hands, it was so creepy." }, { "start": 1526, "end": 1527, "text": " What do you mean?" }, { "start": 1527, "end": 1531.2800000000002, "text": " They would use rubber hands like to be like a rubber hand holding the thing still and" }, { "start": 1531.2800000000002, "end": 1536.76, "text": " then like another hand would like use the phone and it was just terrifying." }, { "start": 1536.76, "end": 1541.72, "text": " And that's because they wanted it to be really still and like the, the tremor of a human" }, { "start": 1541.72, "end": 1542.72, "text": " hand was too noticeable." }, { "start": 1542.72, "end": 1545.88, "text": " Yes, but the creepiness of the rubber hand was much better." }, { "start": 1545.88, "end": 1549.98, "text": " Now once I, once you like noticed it in those commercials, it was like, why?" }, { "start": 1549.98, "end": 1554.96, "text": " If one of those hands, if one of those fake hands ever pops up on eBay, I'm getting it" }, { "start": 1554.96, "end": 1555.96, "text": " on that." }, { "start": 1555.96, "end": 1556.96, "text": " That's a collect." }, { "start": 1556.96, "end": 1557.96, "text": " You're getting like an Apple." }, { "start": 1557.96, "end": 1558.96, "text": " I'm sure there's like a vault." }, { "start": 1558.96, "end": 1559.96, "text": " A vault of Apple hands." }, { "start": 1559.96, "end": 1564.96, "text": " So here's, here's my, you have a Nexus one." }, { "start": 1564.96, "end": 1566.52, "text": " There's the Nexus one." }, { "start": 1566.52, "end": 1568.08, "text": " Look at how cute it is." }, { "start": 1568.08, "end": 1570.96, "text": " Look at, look at that little guy and the revolution it didn't start." }, { "start": 1570.96, "end": 1574.2, "text": " That was the, yeah, that was back in the day when we were all young and naive." }, { "start": 1574.2, "end": 1577.22, "text": " Hey, can, remember, so remember they launched this and they said, we're going to sign up" }, { "start": 1577.22, "end": 1580.64, "text": " all the carriers and do a bunch of stuff and that didn't happen." }, { "start": 1580.64, "end": 1581.64, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 1581.64, "end": 1583.76, "text": " And they got sprint at the end, desperate, lovable sprint." }, { "start": 1583.76, "end": 1584.76, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1584.76, "end": 1586.96, "text": " Who just wants to go home with you." }, { "start": 1586.96, "end": 1589.24, "text": " Please, please take me home." }, { "start": 1589.24, "end": 1591.4, "text": " Do you want to get married?" }, { "start": 1591.4, "end": 1594.64, "text": " Sprint, the sprint story." }, { "start": 1594.64, "end": 1595.92, "text": " And then they couldn't do it." }, { "start": 1595.92, "end": 1601.68, "text": " And then they, the Galaxy Nexus, they like went to Verizon, went to Verizon, but Verizon" }, { "start": 1601.68, "end": 1606.68, "text": " like screwed him over, put out a crappy version of that phone that sucked with bad software" }, { "start": 1606.68, "end": 1607.68, "text": " that was really slow." }, { "start": 1607.68, "end": 1612.1200000000001, "text": " So that Google started giving out unlocked AT&T versions to everybody." }, { "start": 1612.1200000000001, "end": 1613.92, "text": " The Nexus 4 obviously had no LTE." }, { "start": 1613.92, "end": 1617.68, "text": " And then now there's this one, which is unlocked AT&T and T-Mobile." }, { "start": 1617.68, "end": 1618.68, "text": " And Sprint." }, { "start": 1618.68, "end": 1619.68, "text": " And Sprint." }, { "start": 1619.68, "end": 1620.68, "text": " And Sprint?" }, { "start": 1620.68, "end": 1621.68, "text": " Mm-hmm." }, { "start": 1621.68, "end": 1622.68, "text": " Poor desperate Sprint." }, { "start": 1622.68, "end": 1625.96, "text": " Just please go home with me." }, { "start": 1625.96, "end": 1630.0800000000002, "text": " And then there's the Nexus 7, which is supposed to be on Verizon, but they're not going to" }, { "start": 1630.0800000000002, "end": 1632.8400000000001, "text": " unlock it or authorize it until Kit Kat comes out." }, { "start": 1632.8400000000001, "end": 1633.8400000000001, "text": " Do you know about this?" }, { "start": 1633.8400000000001, "end": 1634.8400000000001, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 1634.8400000000001, "end": 1636.6000000000001, "text": " I feel like you're, there's an epic rant coming." }, { "start": 1636.6, "end": 1637.6, "text": " There is." }, { "start": 1637.6, "end": 1641.36, "text": " So actually Sean Hollister and I were just talking about this last night over email." }, { "start": 1641.36, "end": 1645, "text": " I've kind of, at this point I've resigned." }, { "start": 1645, "end": 1648.7199999999998, "text": " I'm just completely resigned to the fact that the 700 megahertz open access provision has" }, { "start": 1648.7199999999998, "end": 1649.7199999999998, "text": " no teeth whatsoever." }, { "start": 1649.7199999999998, "end": 1650.7199999999998, "text": " That's like useless." }, { "start": 1650.7199999999998, "end": 1651.7199999999998, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 1651.7199999999998, "end": 1656.6799999999998, "text": " Because theoretically this would be the point where the FCC would swoop in with its cape" }, { "start": 1656.6799999999998, "end": 1658.48, "text": " and say, Verizon, you will activate these." }, { "start": 1658.48, "end": 1659.48, "text": " Can you DM the FCC?" }, { "start": 1659.48, "end": 1663.3799999999999, "text": " It's the only human being I know who's followed by at FCC on Twitter." }, { "start": 1663.3799999999999, "end": 1666.24, "text": " This would be a great Twitter IPO day story." }, { "start": 1666.24, "end": 1671.08, "text": " My concerned citizen followed by the FCC, the one man who can use this power makes it" }, { "start": 1671.08, "end": 1672.08, "text": " happen." }, { "start": 1672.08, "end": 1675.1200000000001, "text": " I'm literally the only man with the red phone that connects directly to the FCC." }, { "start": 1675.1200000000001, "end": 1679.32, "text": " Do you think now that, if you guys don't know this story, it's when Julie Shonokowski was" }, { "start": 1679.32, "end": 1684.44, "text": " the chairman of the FCC, I asked him after an interview, not if at FCC would follow me," }, { "start": 1684.44, "end": 1686.4, "text": " but if they would follow my friend Chris." }, { "start": 1686.4, "end": 1687.4, "text": " And they did it." }, { "start": 1687.4, "end": 1691.1200000000001, "text": " In honor to which I believe Chris owes me for and will owe me for the rest of his life." }, { "start": 1691.1200000000001, "end": 1692.1200000000001, "text": " Yes, this is true." }, { "start": 1692.1200000000001, "end": 1695.1200000000001, "text": " My concern is that Tom Wheeler is about to shake some shit up." }, { "start": 1695.12, "end": 1698.3999999999999, "text": " He's going to go through his first day in office." }, { "start": 1698.3999999999999, "end": 1701.3999999999999, "text": " He's like, who are we following on Twitter?" }, { "start": 1701.3999999999999, "end": 1702.3999999999999, "text": " Who's this guy?" }, { "start": 1702.3999999999999, "end": 1703.3999999999999, "text": " He's this asshole." }, { "start": 1703.3999999999999, "end": 1708.56, "text": " It's like the chairman of labor, or the secretary of labor, like the Department of Justice," }, { "start": 1708.56, "end": 1709.56, "text": " Z-Power." }, { "start": 1709.56, "end": 1710.56, "text": " Some dude." }, { "start": 1710.56, "end": 1716.36, "text": " By the way, I shared this tidbit on the mobile show this week as well." }, { "start": 1716.36, "end": 1722.6, "text": " Jessica Wurzel, who is one of the three commissioners of the FCC, along with Ajit Pai and Mignon" }, { "start": 1722.6, "end": 1723.6, "text": " Clyburn." }, { "start": 1723.6, "end": 1724.6, "text": " Mignon." }, { "start": 1724.6, "end": 1727.04, "text": " I'm switching it up a little bit." }, { "start": 1727.04, "end": 1730.9599999999998, "text": " She is not a video of this woman pronouncing her own name." }, { "start": 1730.9599999999998, "end": 1735.7199999999998, "text": " Anyway, Jessica Rosenwurzel is the sister of the lead singer for Guster." }, { "start": 1735.7199999999998, "end": 1737.8799999999999, "text": " Just want to point that out and throw that out there." }, { "start": 1737.8799999999999, "end": 1739.24, "text": " How did you find that out?" }, { "start": 1739.24, "end": 1743.36, "text": " I can't remember where I saw it and may not be true, but I've heard this." }, { "start": 1743.36, "end": 1745.08, "text": " By the way, Googling how to pronounce." }, { "start": 1745.08, "end": 1748.6799999999998, "text": " Were you reading the Wikipedia page for Guster?" }, { "start": 1748.6799999999998, "end": 1751.76, "text": " I may have been reading the Wikipedia page for Guster." }, { "start": 1751.76, "end": 1753.8, "text": " I'm not admitting that, but it's possible." }, { "start": 1753.8, "end": 1758.56, "text": " I had a friend in middle school who followed Guster around the Midwest." }, { "start": 1758.56, "end": 1759.56, "text": " Really?" }, { "start": 1759.56, "end": 1760.56, "text": " That's claim to fame." }, { "start": 1760.56, "end": 1761.56, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1761.56, "end": 1762.56, "text": " Her name was..." }, { "start": 1762.56, "end": 1767.56, "text": " And now joining us on the communicators this weekend for the election is FCC Commissioner" }, { "start": 1767.56, "end": 1768.56, "text": " Mignon Clyburn." }, { "start": 1768.56, "end": 1769.56, "text": " Just say it." }, { "start": 1769.56, "end": 1770.56, "text": " Mignon." }, { "start": 1770.56, "end": 1771.56, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 1771.56, "end": 1772.56, "text": " So my revived pronunciation..." }, { "start": 1772.56, "end": 1773.56, "text": " I mean, she didn't look angry when they pronounced it that way." }, { "start": 1773.56, "end": 1775.52, "text": " So, Chris, you actually wrote a thing." }, { "start": 1775.52, "end": 1776.52, "text": " I did." }, { "start": 1776.52, "end": 1777.52, "text": " About how she's the best." }, { "start": 1777.52, "end": 1778.52, "text": " She is amazing." }, { "start": 1778.52, "end": 1781.12, "text": " She is a wonderful human being." }, { "start": 1781.12, "end": 1788.56, "text": " She accomplished more in her far too brief tenure at the head of the FCC than the last" }, { "start": 1788.56, "end": 1789.56, "text": " three people combined." }, { "start": 1789.56, "end": 1792.2399999999998, "text": " Do you think that's because she knew that she was on her way out the door?" }, { "start": 1792.2399999999998, "end": 1793.2399999999998, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1793.2399999999998, "end": 1794.2399999999998, "text": " She was yellow." }, { "start": 1794.2399999999998, "end": 1795.2399999999998, "text": " Well, no." }, { "start": 1795.2399999999998, "end": 1796.2399999999998, "text": " She wasn't yellow." }, { "start": 1796.2399999999998, "end": 1797.2399999999998, "text": " She wasn't yellow because..." }, { "start": 1797.2399999999998, "end": 1798.2399999999998, "text": " Is it more Yoko, you only commissioner once?" }, { "start": 1798.2399999999998, "end": 1799.2399999999998, "text": " I'm really sorry." }, { "start": 1799.2399999999998, "end": 1801.76, "text": " I'm going to go, everybody." }, { "start": 1801.76, "end": 1803.12, "text": " But she's going back." }, { "start": 1803.12, "end": 1804.6799999999998, "text": " I mean, she's not leaving the FCC." }, { "start": 1804.6799999999998, "end": 1807.1599999999999, "text": " She's still a commissioner until 2017, I think." }, { "start": 1807.1599999999999, "end": 1809.56, "text": " So she has to live with her decisions." }, { "start": 1809.56, "end": 1811.3999999999999, "text": " It's not like she just did whatever and left." }, { "start": 1811.3999999999999, "end": 1815.36, "text": " Yeah, but if you were just doing whatever you wanted for six months or whatever, living" }, { "start": 1815.36, "end": 1816.84, "text": " with those decisions would be easy." }, { "start": 1816.84, "end": 1817.84, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 1817.84, "end": 1818.84, "text": " Like, oh, yeah, that one, that was awesome." }, { "start": 1818.84, "end": 1821.72, "text": " Remember when I made him do whatever I wanted?" }, { "start": 1821.72, "end": 1825, "text": " I would definitely clear out 500 megahertz of spectrum." }, { "start": 1825, "end": 1826.3999999999999, "text": " Just be like, we're auctioning this." }, { "start": 1826.3999999999999, "end": 1827.3999999999999, "text": " Sorry about that." }, { "start": 1827.3999999999999, "end": 1828.76, "text": " No, I mean, what was the last one she did?" }, { "start": 1828.76, "end": 1831.04, "text": " She killed a sports blackout rule." }, { "start": 1831.04, "end": 1832.04, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 1832.04, "end": 1833.04, "text": " That was her last move." }, { "start": 1833.04, "end": 1834.04, "text": " And then the next day, Wheeler was signed in." }, { "start": 1834.04, "end": 1835.04, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 1835.04, "end": 1836.04, "text": " And she just went for it." }, { "start": 1836.04, "end": 1837.6399999999999, "text": " Yeah, she went for it, which was a big deal." }, { "start": 1837.64, "end": 1842.88, "text": " Although not as big as you might hope, because it's still ultimately up to stations and..." }, { "start": 1842.88, "end": 1845.8400000000001, "text": " Basically, she just got rid of the federal rules." }, { "start": 1845.8400000000001, "end": 1852.3600000000001, "text": " But like, individual leagues and stations can still black stuff out if they want to," }, { "start": 1852.3600000000001, "end": 1853.3600000000001, "text": " which is great." }, { "start": 1853.3600000000001, "end": 1854.3600000000001, "text": " Yeah, that's what you want." }, { "start": 1854.3600000000001, "end": 1859, "text": " You want local teams and then local stations to be constantly colluding off the books." }, { "start": 1859, "end": 1860, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 1860, "end": 1861, "text": " Collusion's great." }, { "start": 1861, "end": 1862, "text": " That's how the city runs." }, { "start": 1862, "end": 1863.4, "text": " Yeah, so she did that." }, { "start": 1863.4, "end": 1869.2, "text": " She launched two frequency... Two band auctions." }, { "start": 1869.2, "end": 1875.6000000000001, "text": " She completed the Sprint Clearwire Softbank deal, which is basically the biggest telecom" }, { "start": 1875.6000000000001, "end": 1877.6000000000001, "text": " deal in history, probably." }, { "start": 1877.6000000000001, "end": 1879.64, "text": " The three-way deal between those companies is insane." }, { "start": 1879.64, "end": 1882.3200000000002, "text": " You think she really read the paperwork carefully or she was just like, look?" }, { "start": 1882.3200000000002, "end": 1883.3200000000002, "text": " Yeah, she just signed it." }, { "start": 1883.3200000000002, "end": 1884.3200000000002, "text": " I bet she did." }, { "start": 1884.3200000000002, "end": 1885.3200000000002, "text": " She was like, give me the Reader's Digest version." }, { "start": 1885.3200000000002, "end": 1886.3200000000002, "text": " Look, we got a couple minutes in Salvator." }, { "start": 1886.3200000000002, "end": 1887.3200000000002, "text": " It's a long ride up to my office." }, { "start": 1887.3200000000002, "end": 1892.3200000000002, "text": " Just tell me what's going on here." }, { "start": 1892.32, "end": 1901.56, "text": " And she kind of broke the ice on a 10-year battle to crack the monopolies running pay" }, { "start": 1901.56, "end": 1907.48, "text": " phones in prisons, which is a surprisingly insane deal because basically, prisoners had" }, { "start": 1907.48, "end": 1913.4399999999998, "text": " been getting charged upwards of $4 just to place a call and then several dollars a minute," }, { "start": 1913.4399999999998, "end": 1915.04, "text": " which is not really..." }, { "start": 1915.04, "end": 1917.96, "text": " And as I was saying on the Verge Mobile show, prisoners aren't necessarily the richest people" }, { "start": 1917.96, "end": 1918.96, "text": " on the planet." }, { "start": 1918.96, "end": 1919.96, "text": " So it makes it difficult to make a call." }, { "start": 1919.96, "end": 1920.96, "text": " Yeah, a lot of them don't vote." }, { "start": 1920.96, "end": 1921.96, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 1921.96, "end": 1924.28, "text": " They're like really low on the priority list." }, { "start": 1924.28, "end": 1925.28, "text": " Exactly." }, { "start": 1925.28, "end": 1926.28, "text": " They get taken care of." }, { "start": 1926.28, "end": 1927.28, "text": " Exactly." }, { "start": 1927.28, "end": 1928.28, "text": " So she pushed that through as well." }, { "start": 1928.28, "end": 1932.8400000000001, "text": " You think that was after like a marathon Netflix session of Orange is the New Black?" }, { "start": 1932.8400000000001, "end": 1934.72, "text": " She was like, thank God I deregulated." }, { "start": 1934.72, "end": 1936.88, "text": " Maybe just a Shawshank or something." }, { "start": 1936.88, "end": 1937.88, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1937.88, "end": 1938.88, "text": " Can I say something?" }, { "start": 1938.88, "end": 1943.76, "text": " I just opened the camera on this because I realized we forgot to talk about the camera." }, { "start": 1943.76, "end": 1944.76, "text": " My hatred..." }, { "start": 1944.76, "end": 1946.2, "text": " This is the next slide that I open." }, { "start": 1946.2, "end": 1948.88, "text": " My hatred of these on-screen buttons knows no bounds." }, { "start": 1948.88, "end": 1950.88, "text": " I'm just saying that to you." }, { "start": 1950.88, "end": 1951.88, "text": " Go ahead." }, { "start": 1951.88, "end": 1952.88, "text": " They're not good." }, { "start": 1952.88, "end": 1953.88, "text": " They're not good." }, { "start": 1953.88, "end": 1954.88, "text": " And they're not ceramic either." }, { "start": 1954.88, "end": 1958.2800000000002, "text": " No, look, I think she was like..." }, { "start": 1958.2800000000002, "end": 1960.6000000000001, "text": " I do think that she had no..." }, { "start": 1960.6000000000001, "end": 1962.44, "text": " There were no checks on what she was able to do." }, { "start": 1962.44, "end": 1964.64, "text": " Like she has no political future to fight for." }, { "start": 1964.64, "end": 1965.64, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 1965.64, "end": 1966.64, "text": " She's a lame duck." }, { "start": 1966.64, "end": 1967.64, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1967.64, "end": 1968.64, "text": " And she just do whatever she wanted." }, { "start": 1968.64, "end": 1969.64, "text": " And she did a whole bunch of stuff." }, { "start": 1969.64, "end": 1970.64, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1970.64, "end": 1971.96, "text": " And all that is like watching what..." }, { "start": 1971.96, "end": 1975.72, "text": " I'm not particularly fond of our government at this moment in time, but watching what" }, { "start": 1975.72, "end": 1979.5600000000002, "text": " one person in our government can do when they don't have to worry about politics and they" }, { "start": 1979.56, "end": 1982.28, "text": " can just worry about being effective in terms of making things happen." }, { "start": 1982.28, "end": 1983.28, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1983.28, "end": 1988.3999999999999, "text": " It's very, I would say, discouraging in my sense of hope in the future of this country." }, { "start": 1988.3999999999999, "end": 1994, "text": " And now she's being replaced by a former lobbyist for the cable industry and the wireless industry." }, { "start": 1994, "end": 1997.3999999999999, "text": " So we are in for a very desperate four years." }, { "start": 1997.3999999999999, "end": 1998.56, "text": " All right." }, { "start": 1998.56, "end": 2000.1599999999999, "text": " We should talk about this camera because we don't have time." }, { "start": 2000.1599999999999, "end": 2001.1599999999999, "text": " Let's talk about the camera." }, { "start": 2001.1599999999999, "end": 2002.1599999999999, "text": " So the camera is really not good." }, { "start": 2002.1599999999999, "end": 2003.1599999999999, "text": " No, it's not." }, { "start": 2003.1599999999999, "end": 2006.96, "text": " And I would point out that the on-screen buttons, I don't know if you can see this, cut off the" }, { "start": 2006.96, "end": 2007.96, "text": " camera button." }, { "start": 2007.96, "end": 2010.4, "text": " Have you seen the shutter button?" }, { "start": 2010.4, "end": 2011.4, "text": " Oh yeah." }, { "start": 2011.4, "end": 2012.4, "text": " Huh?" }, { "start": 2012.4, "end": 2015.08, "text": " The volume rocker does..." }, { "start": 2015.08, "end": 2016.08, "text": " Yes it does." }, { "start": 2016.08, "end": 2017.08, "text": " The volume rocker takes a photo." }, { "start": 2017.08, "end": 2018.08, "text": " That's fine." }, { "start": 2018.08, "end": 2021.4, "text": " I'm just saying like there's a circle on the screen that's cut off by these on-screen buttons" }, { "start": 2021.4, "end": 2023.04, "text": " and I'm just going to say it right here right now." }, { "start": 2023.04, "end": 2024.04, "text": " I hate them." }, { "start": 2024.04, "end": 2025.04, "text": " You have regular buttons." }, { "start": 2025.04, "end": 2026.04, "text": " What phone do you have right now, Chris?" }, { "start": 2026.04, "end": 2027.04, "text": " A 5S." }, { "start": 2027.04, "end": 2028.32, "text": " You have 5S." }, { "start": 2028.32, "end": 2030.68, "text": " Which is a pretty awesome camera." }, { "start": 2030.68, "end": 2031.68, "text": " It's a pretty amazing camera." }, { "start": 2031.68, "end": 2032.68, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2032.68, "end": 2036.88, "text": " I was taking pictures of a former member of N'Sync last night." }, { "start": 2036.88, "end": 2037.88, "text": " It was JC Chazes." }, { "start": 2037.88, "end": 2042.88, "text": " I was about to say, Joey Fatone, like tell me more." }, { "start": 2042.88, "end": 2047.4, "text": " No, I went to a concert last night." }, { "start": 2047.4, "end": 2048.92, "text": " What concert?" }, { "start": 2048.92, "end": 2050.48, "text": " Go ahead, share your little video." }, { "start": 2050.48, "end": 2052.96, "text": " I went to an N'Sync concert last night." }, { "start": 2052.96, "end": 2053.96, "text": " Share your video." }, { "start": 2053.96, "end": 2054.96, "text": " No, I went to..." }, { "start": 2054.96, "end": 2058.08, "text": " It's really hard to say out loud." }, { "start": 2058.08, "end": 2059.08, "text": " Look I'm sure that there were..." }, { "start": 2059.08, "end": 2060.08, "text": " I went to a Justin Timberlake concert last night." }, { "start": 2060.08, "end": 2061.08, "text": " It was awesome." }, { "start": 2061.08, "end": 2064.4, "text": " I loved every minute of it and he is a true performer and an artist." }, { "start": 2064.4, "end": 2065.4, "text": " I said it." }, { "start": 2065.4, "end": 2066.4, "text": " I said it all." }, { "start": 2066.4, "end": 2067.4, "text": " I said it all." }, { "start": 2067.4, "end": 2068.4, "text": " There's no shame in it." }, { "start": 2068.4, "end": 2070.56, "text": " There are many men in their mid-30s at Justin Timberlake." }, { "start": 2070.56, "end": 2072.08, "text": " There are lots of old dudes there." }, { "start": 2072.08, "end": 2073.08, "text": " No, no." }, { "start": 2073.08, "end": 2076.36, "text": " It was seriously like lots of old dudes with their hot little side pieces." }, { "start": 2076.36, "end": 2077.36, "text": " Straight up." }, { "start": 2077.36, "end": 2078.36, "text": " That was..." }, { "start": 2078.36, "end": 2079.36, "text": " Who was that?" }, { "start": 2079.36, "end": 2083.84, "text": " And then me and Becky being like, hey, we have a normal relationship of peers." }, { "start": 2083.84, "end": 2084.84, "text": " We're new." }, { "start": 2084.84, "end": 2087.36, "text": " Did you see Jessica Biel there?" }, { "start": 2087.36, "end": 2088.36, "text": " Was she..." }, { "start": 2088.36, "end": 2089.36, "text": " No." }, { "start": 2089.36, "end": 2094.76, "text": " I think we were in one section and then there was a mega VIP section around another area" }, { "start": 2094.76, "end": 2100.0400000000004, "text": " where Jimmy Fallon was sitting and at one point the stage took off and flew over the" }, { "start": 2100.0400000000004, "end": 2101.88, "text": " audience which is, I'm not exaggerating." }, { "start": 2101.88, "end": 2102.88, "text": " Wow." }, { "start": 2102.88, "end": 2103.88, "text": " And it flew..." }, { "start": 2103.88, "end": 2108.32, "text": " Justin Timberlake flew to Jimmy Fallon and made fun of him for being drunk." }, { "start": 2108.32, "end": 2109.32, "text": " That's insane." }, { "start": 2109.32, "end": 2110.32, "text": " Really?" }, { "start": 2110.32, "end": 2111.32, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2111.32, "end": 2113.5600000000004, "text": " He was like, hey, hashtag wasted buddy and then Fallon got on a chair and waved at her." }, { "start": 2113.5600000000004, "end": 2114.5600000000004, "text": " It was ridiculous." }, { "start": 2114.5600000000004, "end": 2115.5600000000004, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2115.5600000000004, "end": 2117.5600000000004, "text": " It sounds like a hallucination." }, { "start": 2117.5600000000004, "end": 2118.5600000000004, "text": " Huh?" }, { "start": 2118.5600000000004, "end": 2119.5600000000004, "text": " That sounds like a hallucination." }, { "start": 2119.5600000000004, "end": 2120.5600000000004, "text": " No, it was real." }, { "start": 2120.5600000000004, "end": 2122.5600000000004, "text": " I mean the whole thing felt like a hallucination." }, { "start": 2122.5600000000004, "end": 2123.5600000000004, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 2123.56, "end": 2125.04, "text": " I mean I never wanted to leave." }, { "start": 2125.04, "end": 2126.64, "text": " And so if you're in a clutch situation..." }, { "start": 2126.64, "end": 2132.44, "text": " The only really weird moment was when he covered Heartbreak Hotel by Elvis which just doesn't..." }, { "start": 2132.44, "end": 2133.44, "text": " Weird or awesome?" }, { "start": 2133.44, "end": 2134.44, "text": " It was off." }, { "start": 2134.44, "end": 2135.44, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2135.44, "end": 2139.7599999999998, "text": " He was like, this is a song from the south where I'm from and everyone was like, cool." }, { "start": 2139.7599999999998, "end": 2140.7599999999998, "text": " And then it was Heartbreak." }, { "start": 2140.7599999999998, "end": 2141.7599999999998, "text": " And it was like, I like Elvis." }, { "start": 2141.7599999999998, "end": 2143.96, "text": " I'm an Elvis fan." }, { "start": 2143.96, "end": 2147.24, "text": " I know how to play Heartbreak Hotel because it has two chords." }, { "start": 2147.24, "end": 2149.88, "text": " But that's pretty much the end of where I think the relevance of..." }, { "start": 2149.88, "end": 2150.88, "text": " Did he dance like Elvis?" }, { "start": 2150.88, "end": 2151.88, "text": " He did." }, { "start": 2151.88, "end": 2152.88, "text": " He tried." }, { "start": 2152.88, "end": 2154, "text": " He tried to dance to the number." }, { "start": 2154, "end": 2155, "text": " Which is totally in his wheelhouse." }, { "start": 2155, "end": 2156, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2156, "end": 2157, "text": " I mean that..." }, { "start": 2157, "end": 2158, "text": " I just think he ran out of songs." }, { "start": 2158, "end": 2159.84, "text": " He was like, here's a bunch of hits." }, { "start": 2159.84, "end": 2163.96, "text": " Here's a weird deep cut from the second 2020 experience which he didn't buy." }, { "start": 2163.96, "end": 2167.96, "text": " And now I'm gonna play Poison by Belvedere DeVoe because I'm out of..." }, { "start": 2167.96, "end": 2169.92, "text": " Did he do a lot of in sync or just solo stuff?" }, { "start": 2169.92, "end": 2170.92, "text": " No." }, { "start": 2170.92, "end": 2171.92, "text": " There was no in sync." }, { "start": 2171.92, "end": 2172.92, "text": " Really?" }, { "start": 2172.92, "end": 2173.92, "text": " Do you think that's a licensing issue?" }, { "start": 2173.92, "end": 2179.28, "text": " No, because he played..." }, { "start": 2179.28, "end": 2181.96, "text": " He played something else that I totally forgot the name of." }, { "start": 2181.96, "end": 2182.96, "text": " But he took a lot of photos." }, { "start": 2182.96, "end": 2183.96, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2183.96, "end": 2184.96, "text": " He crossed the streams." }, { "start": 2184.96, "end": 2185.96, "text": " That was good." }, { "start": 2185.96, "end": 2186.96, "text": " But he took a lot of photos." }, { "start": 2186.96, "end": 2192.44, "text": " And I will say the 5S camera in that environment, not necessarily workable." }, { "start": 2192.44, "end": 2193.44, "text": " Really?" }, { "start": 2193.44, "end": 2194.44, "text": " What would you rather have there?" }, { "start": 2194.44, "end": 2196.04, "text": " Because I couldn't stop it down far enough." }, { "start": 2196.04, "end": 2199.2400000000002, "text": " So he was wearing a white jacket and the stage was totally dark and there was like a thousand" }, { "start": 2199.2400000000002, "end": 2200.2400000000002, "text": " watt lights on him." }, { "start": 2200.2400000000002, "end": 2201.2400000000002, "text": " So he was just glowing the whole time." }, { "start": 2201.2400000000002, "end": 2202.2400000000002, "text": " Yeah, but short of an SLR." }, { "start": 2202.2400000000002, "end": 2203.2400000000002, "text": " I mean, what are you gonna do?" }, { "start": 2203.2400000000002, "end": 2204.2400000000002, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 2204.2400000000002, "end": 2205.54, "text": " Look, I just wanted to capture the moment." }, { "start": 2205.54, "end": 2207.32, "text": " You wanted a 1020 is what you wanted." }, { "start": 2207.32, "end": 2209.04, "text": " I think a 1020 would have blown out." }, { "start": 2209.04, "end": 2210.04, "text": " I mean, like..." }, { "start": 2210.04, "end": 2213.84, "text": " You can't spot meter a 1020, can you?" }, { "start": 2213.84, "end": 2214.84, "text": " Some deep camera memory." }, { "start": 2214.84, "end": 2215.84, "text": " You probably can." }, { "start": 2215.84, "end": 2220.12, "text": " I mean, like ProCam is a pretty hardcore app that I haven't used." }, { "start": 2220.12, "end": 2221.12, "text": " I bet that maybe..." }, { "start": 2221.12, "end": 2222.12, "text": " Anyway." }, { "start": 2222.12, "end": 2223.12, "text": " Well, it was amazing." }, { "start": 2223.12, "end": 2224.12, "text": " I thought your video was fun." }, { "start": 2224.12, "end": 2225.12, "text": " Yeah, it was good." }, { "start": 2225.12, "end": 2226.12, "text": " I should have given it to people to play." }, { "start": 2226.12, "end": 2232.36, "text": " No, look, I'm just saying I think the Nexus 5 is one of these phones where you're gonna" }, { "start": 2232.36, "end": 2234.4, "text": " buy it, you're gonna have it for three months, you're gonna sell and get rid of it." }, { "start": 2234.4, "end": 2235.4, "text": " And I think the camera is a big piece of it." }, { "start": 2235.4, "end": 2238.4, "text": " And I think the fact that it feels temporary is a big piece of it." }, { "start": 2238.4, "end": 2240.08, "text": " So I think the Nexus 1..." }, { "start": 2240.08, "end": 2242.52, "text": " Why were we so excited about the Nexus 5?" }, { "start": 2242.52, "end": 2243.52, "text": " I was not." }, { "start": 2243.52, "end": 2244.52, "text": " Oh, we weren't." }, { "start": 2244.52, "end": 2245.52, "text": " People were really excited about it." }, { "start": 2245.52, "end": 2246.52, "text": " Yeah, it was highly anticipated." }, { "start": 2246.52, "end": 2247.52, "text": " Why was that?" }, { "start": 2247.52, "end": 2248.92, "text": " It was just leaked to hell and back." }, { "start": 2248.92, "end": 2250.92, "text": " And I think that builds really a lot of hype." }, { "start": 2250.92, "end": 2253.7200000000003, "text": " Well, it's also like a Google phone, you know?" }, { "start": 2253.7200000000003, "end": 2259.28, "text": " Like it's the closest counterpoint that the universe has to an iPhone launch." }, { "start": 2259.28, "end": 2260.28, "text": " You know what I mean?" }, { "start": 2260.28, "end": 2265.4, "text": " Like there's no other company that kind of like approaches that level of mystique and" }, { "start": 2265.4, "end": 2267.04, "text": " Google kind of does." }, { "start": 2267.04, "end": 2269.44, "text": " So sort of in a way." }, { "start": 2269.44, "end": 2272.56, "text": " I mean, they really are actually the polar opposite of Apple, the more I think about" }, { "start": 2272.56, "end": 2273.56, "text": " it." }, { "start": 2273.56, "end": 2274.56, "text": " But anyway, I think that's part of it." }, { "start": 2274.56, "end": 2278.68, "text": " Well, and I think that, you know, based on my experience with the Nexus 4, which I thought" }, { "start": 2278.68, "end": 2281.24, "text": " was a great phone, like in terms of permanence..." }, { "start": 2281.24, "end": 2282.64, "text": " Nexus 4 is a really terrible phone." }, { "start": 2282.64, "end": 2284.2, "text": " No, it was a great..." }, { "start": 2284.2, "end": 2288.04, "text": " It needed LTE and it had a bad camera, but in terms of like permanence as an object..." }, { "start": 2288.04, "end": 2290.32, "text": " And the screen had like literally zero contrast." }, { "start": 2290.32, "end": 2291.88, "text": " It was like one to one contrast ratio." }, { "start": 2291.88, "end": 2292.88, "text": " I had a good one." }, { "start": 2292.88, "end": 2293.88, "text": " And I'm really picky about screens." }, { "start": 2293.88, "end": 2294.88, "text": " Really?" }, { "start": 2294.88, "end": 2295.88, "text": " My screen is fine." }, { "start": 2295.88, "end": 2296.88, "text": " Oh, mine is so bad." }, { "start": 2296.88, "end": 2297.88, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 2297.88, "end": 2300, "text": " But look, just the Nexus phone like had a design." }, { "start": 2300, "end": 2301.2400000000002, "text": " It had like a personality." }, { "start": 2301.2400000000002, "end": 2302.36, "text": " It was really cheap." }, { "start": 2302.36, "end": 2306.6400000000003, "text": " Like there are reasons to be into that phone." }, { "start": 2306.6400000000003, "end": 2310.48, "text": " And this phone, like all they had to do was fix the camera." }, { "start": 2310.48, "end": 2311.48, "text": " That was it." }, { "start": 2311.48, "end": 2314.84, "text": " If they had delivered the Nexus 4 with LTE and a better camera, people would have freaked" }, { "start": 2314.84, "end": 2316.88, "text": " out and they knew it." }, { "start": 2316.88, "end": 2317.88, "text": " They had to know it." }, { "start": 2317.88, "end": 2321.1600000000003, "text": " They got on stage and they're like, we fixed the camera." }, { "start": 2321.1600000000003, "end": 2325.44, "text": " And for all the Android fan boys who are going to send me pictures of like a gas station" }, { "start": 2325.44, "end": 2327.88, "text": " in the bright sunshine, cool." }, { "start": 2327.88, "end": 2328.88, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 2328.88, "end": 2331.08, "text": " Technology has advanced to the point where you can take a picture of a gas station in" }, { "start": 2331.08, "end": 2332.08, "text": " bright sunshine." }, { "start": 2332.08, "end": 2337.16, "text": " But as soon as it gets to like dark and it's the sun sets on the gas station, your photo" }, { "start": 2337.16, "end": 2338.4, "text": " is going to look like crap." }, { "start": 2338.4, "end": 2341.6, "text": " And I know that we're all out there taking photos of gas stations at sunset." }, { "start": 2341.6, "end": 2342.6, "text": " I know I am." }, { "start": 2342.6, "end": 2346.16, "text": " I was assuming that the sun setting on the gas station was a euphemism for something," }, { "start": 2346.16, "end": 2347.16, "text": " but I wasn't sure what." }, { "start": 2347.16, "end": 2350.28, "text": " And then the gas station explodes into shame." }, { "start": 2350.28, "end": 2351.92, "text": " And that's you and your camera." }, { "start": 2351.92, "end": 2353.6, "text": " So Adrian, what is your next phone?" }, { "start": 2353.6, "end": 2354.6, "text": " Because I'm getting..." }, { "start": 2354.6, "end": 2355.6, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 2355.6, "end": 2356.6, "text": " Both of us have hives looking at this phone." }, { "start": 2356.6, "end": 2357.6, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2357.6, "end": 2358.6, "text": " Yeah, I know." }, { "start": 2358.6, "end": 2362.4, "text": " I should not bring it when I come on the Vergecast because it always gets a lot of attention." }, { "start": 2362.4, "end": 2363.4, "text": " I mean, it is cool." }, { "start": 2363.4, "end": 2364.4, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 2364.4, "end": 2366.7999999999997, "text": " Look, it has the red accents, which I thought when the Incredible launched, I thought that" }, { "start": 2366.7999999999997, "end": 2367.7999999999997, "text": " was pretty dope." }, { "start": 2367.7999999999997, "end": 2370.72, "text": " Maybe, should we say what phone it is?" }, { "start": 2370.72, "end": 2372.2799999999997, "text": " It's a Droid Incredible LTE." }, { "start": 2372.2799999999997, "end": 2373.2799999999997, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2373.2799999999997, "end": 2374.2799999999997, "text": " Not a two." }, { "start": 2374.2799999999997, "end": 2375.2799999999997, "text": " Is that the two?" }, { "start": 2375.2799999999997, "end": 2376.2799999999997, "text": " No, it's the next one." }, { "start": 2376.2799999999997, "end": 2377.2799999999997, "text": " No." }, { "start": 2377.2799999999997, "end": 2378.2799999999997, "text": " I didn't even know they made a next one." }, { "start": 2378.2799999999997, "end": 2379.2799999999997, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2379.2799999999997, "end": 2383.08, "text": " I mean, I think it's good for a while." }, { "start": 2383.08, "end": 2385.6, "text": " I'm kind of waiting for something to catch my eye." }, { "start": 2385.6, "end": 2386.6, "text": " Waiting for what is the question?" }, { "start": 2386.6, "end": 2387.6, "text": " No, what?" }, { "start": 2387.6, "end": 2389, "text": " I want to know right now what you're waiting for." }, { "start": 2389, "end": 2390, "text": " What am I waiting for?" }, { "start": 2390, "end": 2397.24, "text": " I'm waiting for another version of this phone that's a comfortable size that I guess has" }, { "start": 2397.24, "end": 2398.24, "text": " a better camera." }, { "start": 2398.24, "end": 2399.24, "text": " So that's the thing for you." }, { "start": 2399.24, "end": 2400.24, "text": " It has to be that big, right?" }, { "start": 2400.24, "end": 2401.24, "text": " It can't be bigger." }, { "start": 2401.24, "end": 2402.24, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2402.24, "end": 2403.24, "text": " And that's..." }, { "start": 2403.24, "end": 2404.24, "text": " I mean, this is a common complaint, right?" }, { "start": 2404.24, "end": 2405.24, "text": " And I'll put it out there again." }, { "start": 2405.24, "end": 2409.56, "text": " Like there is this stigma that a small phone can't be high end." }, { "start": 2409.56, "end": 2415.2, "text": " And various companies pretend like they do small high end phones like the One Mini and" }, { "start": 2415.2, "end": 2419.2, "text": " the Galaxy S4 Mini, but they compromise in some ridiculous way." }, { "start": 2419.2, "end": 2421.24, "text": " And this year's batch is no different." }, { "start": 2421.24, "end": 2426.32, "text": " And so I wish you luck because I think you're going to have a lot of difficulty finding" }, { "start": 2426.32, "end": 2427.32, "text": " a 4.3 inch screen." }, { "start": 2427.32, "end": 2428.32, "text": " Dude, she's just going to get an iPhone." }, { "start": 2428.32, "end": 2429.32, "text": " They all do in the end." }, { "start": 2429.32, "end": 2430.32, "text": " They'll get what?" }, { "start": 2430.32, "end": 2431.32, "text": " I don't know what that means." }, { "start": 2431.32, "end": 2432.32, "text": " Other people like small phones." }, { "start": 2432.32, "end": 2433.32, "text": " They'll end up with iPhones because Apple knows." }, { "start": 2433.32, "end": 2434.32, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2434.32, "end": 2435.32, "text": " They're aware of this." }, { "start": 2435.32, "end": 2436.32, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2436.32, "end": 2437.32, "text": " They're going to take your fingerprint too." }, { "start": 2437.32, "end": 2438.32, "text": " Yep." }, { "start": 2438.32, "end": 2439.32, "text": " They're going to take it." }, { "start": 2439.32, "end": 2440.32, "text": " And send it to the cloud." }, { "start": 2440.32, "end": 2441.32, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2441.32, "end": 2444.56, "text": " To the cloud, which is the government, which is the same thing." }, { "start": 2444.56, "end": 2447.5, "text": " By the way, did you know somebody sent me a list of the other people the FCC follows" }, { "start": 2447.5, "end": 2448.5, "text": " and..." }, { "start": 2448.5, "end": 2450.04, "text": " Lady Gaga." }, { "start": 2450.04, "end": 2452.36, "text": " Also cybersecurity, which is just at cyber." }, { "start": 2452.36, "end": 2453.36, "text": " Which is incredible." }, { "start": 2453.36, "end": 2456.88, "text": " I don't even know what that means." }, { "start": 2456.88, "end": 2459.48, "text": " Like it's just a verified account at cyber." }, { "start": 2459.48, "end": 2460.48, "text": " So cool." }, { "start": 2460.48, "end": 2461.48, "text": " With only 13,000 followers." }, { "start": 2461.48, "end": 2462.48, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2462.48, "end": 2463.48, "text": " No, they're definitely chasing you down, man." }, { "start": 2463.48, "end": 2464.48, "text": " They're just watching you." }, { "start": 2464.48, "end": 2465.48, "text": " I'm following cyber." }, { "start": 2465.48, "end": 2468.48, "text": " That's a list of people who you think they're going to follow you back." }, { "start": 2468.48, "end": 2470.2, "text": " They're going to DM cyber." }, { "start": 2470.2, "end": 2471.2, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2471.2, "end": 2472.2, "text": " Learn how to secure all your electronic devices." }, { "start": 2472.2, "end": 2473.2, "text": " That's terrible." }, { "start": 2473.2, "end": 2474.2, "text": " Should we talk..." }, { "start": 2474.2, "end": 2475.2, "text": " We should talk about EverPix." }, { "start": 2475.2, "end": 2476.2, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 2476.2, "end": 2477.2, "text": " Because it was amazing." }, { "start": 2477.2, "end": 2478.2, "text": " Amazing piece." }, { "start": 2478.2, "end": 2479.2, "text": " And also there's a song." }, { "start": 2479.2, "end": 2483.04, "text": " There is now a song, which I think is queued up." }, { "start": 2483.04, "end": 2484.04, "text": " It is queued up." }, { "start": 2484.04, "end": 2486.92, "text": " So Adrian, do you want to walk us through what happened with EverPix?" }, { "start": 2486.92, "end": 2487.92, "text": " Did you read..." }, { "start": 2487.92, "end": 2488.92, "text": " Did you..." }, { "start": 2488.92, "end": 2489.92, "text": " Casey Story." }, { "start": 2489.92, "end": 2490.92, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2490.92, "end": 2494.44, "text": " Let's see if I got it right." }, { "start": 2494.44, "end": 2500.12, "text": " EverPix was originally a service that I didn't use, but people really loved it." }, { "start": 2500.12, "end": 2501.12, "text": " But a lot of people loved it." }, { "start": 2501.12, "end": 2502.12, "text": " I signed up for it once." }, { "start": 2502.12, "end": 2503.12, "text": " And how much was it?" }, { "start": 2503.12, "end": 2504.12, "text": " $5 a month?" }, { "start": 2504.12, "end": 2505.68, "text": " Yeah, something in ridiculously cheap, yeah." }, { "start": 2505.68, "end": 2512.6, "text": " But still, $5 is not $0, which other photo services cost." }, { "start": 2512.6, "end": 2516.66, "text": " So people were really into it and they just couldn't..." }, { "start": 2516.66, "end": 2520.8, "text": " It sounds like it just came down to they couldn't get more investment." }, { "start": 2520.8, "end": 2523.7200000000003, "text": " And their investors were saying like, oh, we don't see how this is going to be a billion" }, { "start": 2523.72, "end": 2525.72, "text": " dollar business." }, { "start": 2525.72, "end": 2532.2799999999997, "text": " Which is like what the investors need in order to meet their marks, I guess." }, { "start": 2532.2799999999997, "end": 2533.74, "text": " But you could still..." }, { "start": 2533.74, "end": 2538.68, "text": " It kind of sucks because you could see how an investment from somebody who was expecting" }, { "start": 2538.68, "end": 2545.3599999999997, "text": " a lower return could have really paid off if they had just lowered their standards for" }, { "start": 2545.3599999999997, "end": 2546.3599999999997, "text": " what success would be." }, { "start": 2546.3599999999997, "end": 2551.48, "text": " If you could just have a service that had like, I don't know, like 10,000, 50,000 really" }, { "start": 2551.48, "end": 2556.2, "text": " dedicated users who paid five or 10 bucks a month, why isn't that a business?" }, { "start": 2556.2, "end": 2559.44, "text": " Well, how long was it until Amazon turned its first profit?" }, { "start": 2559.44, "end": 2563.32, "text": " It's like 2004, 2005 or something like that." }, { "start": 2563.32, "end": 2569.2, "text": " Imagine if like in 1997, investors said, all right, well, there's no way you're making" }, { "start": 2569.2, "end": 2571.36, "text": " money anytime soon, goodbye." }, { "start": 2571.36, "end": 2575.32, "text": " Well, it wasn't just that they didn't think they would make money soon, it was that they" }, { "start": 2575.32, "end": 2580.8, "text": " didn't think they would ever make a billion dollars, which they were probably right about." }, { "start": 2580.8, "end": 2586.4, "text": " Like it probably had limited appeal and it just kind of sucks that they didn't have another" }, { "start": 2586.4, "end": 2587.4, "text": " option for being able to go on." }, { "start": 2587.4, "end": 2590.6400000000003, "text": " And we know from Justin Timberlake that a billion dollars is cool." }, { "start": 2590.6400000000003, "end": 2591.6400000000003, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2591.6400000000003, "end": 2593.6800000000003, "text": " And that's really how they all make..." }, { "start": 2593.6800000000003, "end": 2597.6000000000004, "text": " Yeah, that's the investment philosophy of most of the..." }, { "start": 2597.6000000000004, "end": 2599.52, "text": " So I used EverPix, I had it." }, { "start": 2599.52, "end": 2602.32, "text": " I was going to be all set to be really into it." }, { "start": 2602.32, "end": 2605.96, "text": " And I did the thing where you download it and it's on your computer and you have to" }, { "start": 2605.96, "end": 2609.2400000000002, "text": " let it run all night to upload all your photos and it emails you and it's like, a year ago" }, { "start": 2609.2400000000002, "end": 2610.2400000000002, "text": " today." }, { "start": 2610.24, "end": 2613.6, "text": " I sucked a year ago today, which is a real problem with all those services." }, { "start": 2613.6, "end": 2614.6, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2614.6, "end": 2615.6, "text": " You know what time up is?" }, { "start": 2615.6, "end": 2617.4399999999996, "text": " A nonstop collection of embarrassments." }, { "start": 2617.4399999999996, "end": 2620.3199999999997, "text": " Like why on this day was I taking a picture of a Diet Coke can?" }, { "start": 2620.3199999999997, "end": 2622.04, "text": " Because that's what I was always doing." }, { "start": 2622.04, "end": 2623.52, "text": " That was cool." }, { "start": 2623.52, "end": 2627.24, "text": " And it had the sense that it was going to work and do something." }, { "start": 2627.24, "end": 2631.2, "text": " And it had all these algorithms where it'll show you interesting stuff." }, { "start": 2631.2, "end": 2633.68, "text": " But I never saw..." }, { "start": 2633.68, "end": 2634.9199999999996, "text": " It's like, you know what the other option is?" }, { "start": 2634.9199999999996, "end": 2635.9199999999996, "text": " Is Google+." }, { "start": 2635.9199999999996, "end": 2638.9199999999996, "text": " And you can just bang everything up to Google+, and it's free." }, { "start": 2638.92, "end": 2644.04, "text": " And what I don't understand is everybody I know who is really into EverPix kept on saying" }, { "start": 2644.04, "end": 2645.52, "text": " Apple needed to buy it." }, { "start": 2645.52, "end": 2646.88, "text": " And the guy used to work at Apple." }, { "start": 2646.88, "end": 2648.08, "text": " And I just don't know." }, { "start": 2648.08, "end": 2650.86, "text": " It's the one piece of Casey story that I think was there." }, { "start": 2650.86, "end": 2651.86, "text": " Why didn't they go to Apple?" }, { "start": 2651.86, "end": 2653.4, "text": " Did that just go nowhere?" }, { "start": 2653.4, "end": 2654.52, "text": " Was Apple ever interested?" }, { "start": 2654.52, "end": 2658.52, "text": " Because if you look at PhotoStream and what they're doing with all that stuff, it's a" }, { "start": 2658.52, "end": 2659.92, "text": " gigantic mess." }, { "start": 2659.92, "end": 2663.16, "text": " And Apple buys millions of tiny companies." }, { "start": 2663.16, "end": 2664.16, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 2664.16, "end": 2666.6800000000003, "text": " It's like one every three weeks was on their last call." }, { "start": 2666.6800000000003, "end": 2667.6800000000003, "text": " Which is like..." }, { "start": 2667.6800000000003, "end": 2668.6800000000003, "text": " Wow, really?" }, { "start": 2668.68, "end": 2671.16, "text": " One every three to four weeks." }, { "start": 2671.16, "end": 2673.7599999999998, "text": " And most of them just get absorbed into the ether, right?" }, { "start": 2673.7599999999998, "end": 2674.7599999999998, "text": " But they help make something better." }, { "start": 2674.7599999999998, "end": 2675.7599999999998, "text": " How many does Google buy?" }, { "start": 2675.7599999999998, "end": 2676.7599999999998, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 2676.7599999999998, "end": 2677.7599999999998, "text": " Quite a few." }, { "start": 2677.7599999999998, "end": 2678.7599999999998, "text": " It's a lot." }, { "start": 2678.7599999999998, "end": 2679.7599999999998, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2679.7599999999998, "end": 2680.7599999999998, "text": " I mean, this is like the valley, right?" }, { "start": 2680.7599999999998, "end": 2681.7599999999998, "text": " You start a crappy company, you prove out the fact that you can build something, and then" }, { "start": 2681.7599999999998, "end": 2682.7599999999998, "text": " you're like, hey, buy me." }, { "start": 2682.7599999999998, "end": 2683.7599999999998, "text": " And then it happens." }, { "start": 2683.7599999999998, "end": 2685.72, "text": " But I just..." }, { "start": 2685.72, "end": 2687, "text": " Apple's buying it because they need talent." }, { "start": 2687, "end": 2690.52, "text": " If you look at where Apple's really buying, it's like they're buying against web services," }, { "start": 2690.52, "end": 2693.64, "text": " they're buying against internet stuff because they need to get better at it." }, { "start": 2693.64, "end": 2695.08, "text": " They need to bring in the talent." }, { "start": 2695.08, "end": 2699.44, "text": " And it's like, are you convinced that you have the right talent building photo stream?" }, { "start": 2699.44, "end": 2700.44, "text": " Because I'm not." }, { "start": 2700.44, "end": 2701.44, "text": " It's great." }, { "start": 2701.44, "end": 2702.44, "text": " I use it." }, { "start": 2702.44, "end": 2703.44, "text": " It works." }, { "start": 2703.44, "end": 2707.94, "text": " It does a thing where I take a picture on my iPhone and some time later it shows up" }, { "start": 2707.94, "end": 2709.88, "text": " on my computer." }, { "start": 2709.88, "end": 2710.88, "text": " That's great." }, { "start": 2710.88, "end": 2712.44, "text": " But something about that feels very analog and..." }, { "start": 2712.44, "end": 2713.44, "text": " Not analog." }, { "start": 2713.44, "end": 2716.58, "text": " Something about that feels very old." }, { "start": 2716.58, "end": 2720.12, "text": " It feels very like I'm waiting for something to go to a hard drive at my house instead" }, { "start": 2720.12, "end": 2724.96, "text": " of a hard drive on Apple's much more secure data server that is rigorously maintained." }, { "start": 2724.96, "end": 2727.68, "text": " As opposed to me where I'm like, let's see what porn websites have irises today." }, { "start": 2727.68, "end": 2729.8, "text": " And it's like, I'm definitely gonna lose all my photos." }, { "start": 2729.8, "end": 2731.64, "text": " I don't do that." }, { "start": 2731.64, "end": 2732.64, "text": " You might do that." }, { "start": 2732.64, "end": 2733.64, "text": " Hi mom." }, { "start": 2733.64, "end": 2735.7200000000003, "text": " Hello wife." }, { "start": 2735.7200000000003, "end": 2738.2, "text": " What Evan just trolled me from the great beyond." }, { "start": 2738.2, "end": 2740.64, "text": " Did everybody just see zombie Evan's photo bomb here?" }, { "start": 2740.64, "end": 2741.64, "text": " What is this?" }, { "start": 2741.64, "end": 2745.84, "text": " I don't know how it went in my hand." }, { "start": 2745.84, "end": 2747.56, "text": " Oh, in the multicolor light." }, { "start": 2747.56, "end": 2748.56, "text": " That's pretty tricky." }, { "start": 2748.56, "end": 2749.56, "text": " What is happening back there?" }, { "start": 2749.56, "end": 2750.56, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 2750.56, "end": 2751.56, "text": " Look, the EverFix story was incredible." }, { "start": 2751.56, "end": 2753.92, "text": " Casey did just an amazing job getting in there." }, { "start": 2753.92, "end": 2754.92, "text": " Juicy, scoopy." }, { "start": 2754.92, "end": 2758.64, "text": " I just feel bad." }, { "start": 2758.64, "end": 2763.36, "text": " It was depressing in that it really drives home the point that your product doesn't just" }, { "start": 2763.36, "end": 2768.04, "text": " have to be good to be successful, which is tragic." }, { "start": 2768.04, "end": 2772.36, "text": " At the end of the day, in an innovation economy, you wanna believe in your heart of hearts" }, { "start": 2772.36, "end": 2776.2000000000003, "text": " that you just have to make an awesome product and everything will fall into place." }, { "start": 2776.2000000000003, "end": 2778.96, "text": " This proves that that's not the case." }, { "start": 2778.96, "end": 2783.2000000000003, "text": " People are definitely sending me like fakes Nexus 5 photos now." }, { "start": 2783.2, "end": 2784.2, "text": " Somebody just sent me like a quasar." }, { "start": 2784.2, "end": 2785.2, "text": " I don't know what he's talking about." }, { "start": 2785.2, "end": 2786.2, "text": " I think it was like Nexus 5." }, { "start": 2786.2, "end": 2787.2, "text": " No, you didn't." }, { "start": 2787.2, "end": 2788.2, "text": " That didn't happen." }, { "start": 2788.2, "end": 2789.2, "text": " Oh, they're gonna troll me so bad now." }, { "start": 2789.2, "end": 2790.2, "text": " Why did I engage this?" }, { "start": 2790.2, "end": 2804.7999999999997, "text": " Somebody just asked me Nexus 5 or Moto X?" }, { "start": 2804.7999999999997, "end": 2807.6, "text": " I think everybody in our staff has settled on the Moto X." }, { "start": 2807.6, "end": 2808.96, "text": " Yeah, I'd say Moto X." }, { "start": 2808.96, "end": 2810.48, "text": " I think Josh is very settled on Moto X." }, { "start": 2810.48, "end": 2811.48, "text": " He's very fond of it." }, { "start": 2811.48, "end": 2812.96, "text": " It's great phone." }, { "start": 2812.96, "end": 2813.96, "text": " What a miserable camera." }, { "start": 2813.96, "end": 2816.76, "text": " Yeah, yeah, although it got a little better with that firmware update." }, { "start": 2816.76, "end": 2817.76, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2817.76, "end": 2818.76, "text": " I know, man." }, { "start": 2818.76, "end": 2822.32, "text": " If you want an Android phone, you want a great camera, it's like you're stuck with the GS4." }, { "start": 2822.32, "end": 2825.08, "text": " Well, one option, I can't remember who brought this up." }, { "start": 2825.08, "end": 2826.08, "text": " That's even like..." }, { "start": 2826.08, "end": 2828.04, "text": " It might have been Vlad." }, { "start": 2828.04, "end": 2830.88, "text": " You duct tape a 1020 to the back of your Android phone." }, { "start": 2830.88, "end": 2831.88, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2831.88, "end": 2835.08, "text": " This is like when the iPhone was first coming out and people were like, the best phone you" }, { "start": 2835.08, "end": 2837.4, "text": " can get right now is an iPod duct taped to a Razr." }, { "start": 2837.4, "end": 2838.4, "text": " Yeah, yeah." }, { "start": 2838.4, "end": 2839.4, "text": " It's true." }, { "start": 2839.4, "end": 2840.4, "text": " What else is there?" }, { "start": 2840.4, "end": 2841.4, "text": " There's lots." }, { "start": 2841.4, "end": 2842.4, "text": " Oh, there's an iPad sitting here." }, { "start": 2842.4, "end": 2843.4, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 2843.4, "end": 2844.64, "text": " You reviewed the iPad Air." }, { "start": 2844.64, "end": 2845.64, "text": " I did review the iPad Air." }, { "start": 2845.64, "end": 2846.64, "text": " Tell us about the iPad Air." }, { "start": 2846.64, "end": 2847.88, "text": " So, here's the thing with it." }, { "start": 2847.88, "end": 2848.88, "text": " It's an iPad." }, { "start": 2848.88, "end": 2849.88, "text": " No, that's it." }, { "start": 2849.88, "end": 2850.88, "text": " It's an iPad." }, { "start": 2850.88, "end": 2856.44, "text": " It very much is a gigantic iPad mini, which is cool if you're into the iPad mini, but" }, { "start": 2856.44, "end": 2859.04, "text": " that's exactly what it is." }, { "start": 2859.04, "end": 2860.4, "text": " It has the same screen." }, { "start": 2860.4, "end": 2862.02, "text": " It is looks..." }, { "start": 2862.02, "end": 2864.6800000000003, "text": " It's in space gray now, which is nice." }, { "start": 2864.6800000000003, "end": 2865.6800000000003, "text": " It's very handsome." }, { "start": 2865.6800000000003, "end": 2868.28, "text": " I'm going to buy one because I'm a big iPad person." }, { "start": 2868.28, "end": 2870.06, "text": " How's it doing for scratches?" }, { "start": 2870.06, "end": 2871.06, "text": " It's fun." }, { "start": 2871.06, "end": 2874.08, "text": " I mean, the back, it's a little fingerprinty." }, { "start": 2874.08, "end": 2876.32, "text": " It's remarkably small and light." }, { "start": 2876.32, "end": 2881.2, "text": " If you were a mini person and you never got a big iPad because you're like, oh, that's" }, { "start": 2881.2, "end": 2884.96, "text": " way too big, you should reconsider and hold one in your hands." }, { "start": 2884.96, "end": 2886.96, "text": " But it is $100 more than the mini with Retina." }, { "start": 2886.96, "end": 2887.96, "text": " Yeah, yeah." }, { "start": 2887.96, "end": 2890.16, "text": " I'm just saying if you were attracted to a bigger screen." }, { "start": 2890.16, "end": 2894.08, "text": " The thing about the mini, the new mini with Retina is that it has the same processor." }, { "start": 2894.08, "end": 2895.72, "text": " It will have the same caliber of display." }, { "start": 2895.72, "end": 2899.2, "text": " Actually, a slightly better display because the pixel needs to be higher, which I know" }, { "start": 2899.2, "end": 2902.8799999999997, "text": " that Paul Miller and I are very concerned about." }, { "start": 2902.8799999999997, "end": 2903.8799999999997, "text": " It'll be great." }, { "start": 2903.8799999999997, "end": 2904.8799999999997, "text": " That'll be a great product." }, { "start": 2904.8799999999997, "end": 2905.8799999999997, "text": " This is a great product." }, { "start": 2905.8799999999997, "end": 2906.8799999999997, "text": " Here's the problem." }, { "start": 2906.8799999999997, "end": 2909.2799999999997, "text": " iOS 7 on the iPad, kind of junky." }, { "start": 2909.2799999999997, "end": 2910.2799999999997, "text": " Just kind of junky." }, { "start": 2910.2799999999997, "end": 2911.2799999999997, "text": " Just not there." }, { "start": 2911.2799999999997, "end": 2912.2799999999997, "text": " Janky even?" }, { "start": 2912.2799999999997, "end": 2913.2799999999997, "text": " No." }, { "start": 2913.2799999999997, "end": 2914.2799999999997, "text": " I'm pretty sure I put that in the style guide." }, { "start": 2914.2799999999997, "end": 2915.2799999999997, "text": " It's like a big no, no." }, { "start": 2915.2799999999997, "end": 2916.2799999999997, "text": " Nothing can be janky." }, { "start": 2916.2799999999997, "end": 2917.2799999999997, "text": " Welcome to no, no town, Adrienne." }, { "start": 2917.2799999999997, "end": 2918.2799999999997, "text": " God, I'm really sorry I said that." }, { "start": 2918.2799999999997, "end": 2919.2799999999997, "text": " This is what my managing editor said to me today." }, { "start": 2919.2799999999997, "end": 2920.2799999999997, "text": " I'm going to go ahead and get my iPad." }, { "start": 2920.2799999999997, "end": 2921.2799999999997, "text": " I'm going to go ahead and get my iPad." }, { "start": 2921.2799999999997, "end": 2922.2799999999997, "text": " I'm going to go ahead and get my iPad." }, { "start": 2922.2799999999997, "end": 2923.2799999999997, "text": " I'm going to go ahead and get my iPad." }, { "start": 2923.2799999999997, "end": 2924.2799999999997, "text": " I'm going to go ahead and get my iPad." }, { "start": 2924.28, "end": 2929.7200000000003, "text": " I'm going to go ahead and get my iPad." }, { "start": 2929.7200000000003, "end": 2934.38, "text": " I've always been an effective leader, effective leadership in no, no town by Nila Patel." }, { "start": 2934.38, "end": 2935.38, "text": " It's true." }, { "start": 2935.38, "end": 2937.6000000000004, "text": " Nila manages The Verge like a preschool." }, { "start": 2937.6000000000004, "end": 2938.6000000000004, "text": " It is a preschool." }, { "start": 2938.6000000000004, "end": 2942.5600000000004, "text": " I always think of The Verge as a collection of weirdos and I just have to keep the weirdos" }, { "start": 2942.5600000000004, "end": 2944.38, "text": " safe and then they'll do really weird things." }, { "start": 2944.38, "end": 2946.7200000000003, "text": " Make sure they don't hurt themselves or others." }, { "start": 2946.7200000000003, "end": 2947.7200000000003, "text": " Did you eat your cookies?" }, { "start": 2947.7200000000003, "end": 2949.52, "text": " Did you spill juice on the ground?" }, { "start": 2949.52, "end": 2950.52, "text": " Did you take your nap?" }, { "start": 2950.52, "end": 2951.52, "text": " God, we should have nap time." }, { "start": 2951.52, "end": 2952.52, "text": " We really should." }, { "start": 2952.52, "end": 2953.52, "text": " If we had nap time, I'd have done it." }, { "start": 2953.52, "end": 2955.84, "text": " If we had nap time every day, it would be incredible." }, { "start": 2955.84, "end": 2959.44, "text": " Then we all woke up and said whatever weird nap things." }, { "start": 2959.44, "end": 2963.08, "text": " The site would just go down and be replaced by a sign that said, it's nap time." }, { "start": 2963.08, "end": 2964.08, "text": " Please check back at four o'clock." }, { "start": 2964.08, "end": 2966.8, "text": " They're like little Z's, like a little animation." }, { "start": 2966.8, "end": 2967.8, "text": " Check back in 15 minutes." }, { "start": 2967.8, "end": 2971, "text": " Wait, so am I the only one who has really weird nap dreams?" }, { "start": 2971, "end": 2974.36, "text": " I have particularly weird, like when I take a nap, weird shit happens in my mind." }, { "start": 2974.36, "end": 2977.28, "text": " I wake up and I think it's real for about 10 minutes." }, { "start": 2977.28, "end": 2979.92, "text": " So I think at the end, well, I'm assuming everybody else doesn't have this because that" }, { "start": 2979.92, "end": 2982.64, "text": " might be crazy, but if everybody else, like we had nap time every day and everybody else" }, { "start": 2982.64, "end": 2985.16, "text": " just published like whatever." }, { "start": 2985.16, "end": 2989, "text": " Basically I want the Verge to be a dream journal." }, { "start": 2989, "end": 2990.7999999999997, "text": " There might be a place for, let's put it this way." }, { "start": 2990.7999999999997, "end": 2991.7999999999997, "text": " If we had a, if we-" }, { "start": 2991.7999999999997, "end": 2992.7999999999997, "text": " We can have a dream vertical." }, { "start": 2992.7999999999997, "end": 2993.7999999999997, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2993.7999999999997, "end": 2994.7999999999997, "text": " Ooh." }, { "start": 2994.7999999999997, "end": 2995.7999999999997, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2995.7999999999997, "end": 2996.7999999999997, "text": " Fox dreams." }, { "start": 2996.7999999999997, "end": 2997.7999999999997, "text": " Dan, you got a text message." }, { "start": 2997.7999999999997, "end": 3000.2799999999997, "text": " Yeah, Dan, come get your phone." }, { "start": 3000.2799999999997, "end": 3002, "text": " They're in the car." }, { "start": 3002, "end": 3004.48, "text": " So question, iPad Air." }, { "start": 3004.48, "end": 3005.48, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3005.48, "end": 3007.48, "text": " Do you miss Touch ID?" }, { "start": 3007.48, "end": 3009.8399999999997, "text": " No, God, no." }, { "start": 3009.8399999999997, "end": 3011.04, "text": " It's useless." }, { "start": 3011.04, "end": 3012.48, "text": " You and Dan, man, with the Touch ID." }, { "start": 3012.48, "end": 3013.48, "text": " I mean, I use it." }, { "start": 3013.48, "end": 3014.48, "text": " Hey, look, check it out." }, { "start": 3014.48, "end": 3015.48, "text": " I did a thing." }, { "start": 3015.48, "end": 3016.48, "text": " It's great." }, { "start": 3016.48, "end": 3017.48, "text": " It's the best." }, { "start": 3017.48, "end": 3020, "text": " It is the best thing Apple has done in the last decade." }, { "start": 3020, "end": 3021, "text": " It crashes all the time." }, { "start": 3021, "end": 3022, "text": " Like three times a day." }, { "start": 3022, "end": 3023.56, "text": " What do you mean crash?" }, { "start": 3023.56, "end": 3030.44, "text": " Like from what I am told, springboard on the iPhone is crashy and iOS 7 on it, particularly" }, { "start": 3030.44, "end": 3031.68, "text": " on the 5S." }, { "start": 3031.68, "end": 3036.96, "text": " So in the background, springboard will crash out and then it'll take Touch ID with it." }, { "start": 3036.96, "end": 3040.46, "text": " And so then I'm trying to unlock my phone and I'm just there like an idiot, just quietly" }, { "start": 3040.46, "end": 3043.4, "text": " holding my thumb on my phone, waiting for something good to happen." }, { "start": 3043.4, "end": 3047.68, "text": " I think you might just have a weird thumb because it never crashes for me." }, { "start": 3047.68, "end": 3049.64, "text": " No, many, many people have." }, { "start": 3049.64, "end": 3050.64, "text": " I'm just saying." }, { "start": 3050.64, "end": 3053.52, "text": " I don't have a weird thumb, first of all." }, { "start": 3053.52, "end": 3059.28, "text": " And even if I did, I would suggest to you, sir." }, { "start": 3059.28, "end": 3063.4, "text": " This is actually the second conversation Chris and I were in today about weird thumbs." }, { "start": 3063.4, "end": 3064.4, "text": " That's true." }, { "start": 3064.4, "end": 3066.48, "text": " We learned that Vince Vaughn has a weird thumb, which I didn't know." }, { "start": 3066.48, "end": 3069.32, "text": " Yeah, but my thumb is a normal thumb." }, { "start": 3069.32, "end": 3073.4, "text": " Vince Vaughn, whatever man, whatever's going on with his fingers is cool." }, { "start": 3073.4, "end": 3074.4, "text": " What's springboard?" }, { "start": 3074.4, "end": 3076.4, "text": " Springboard is the appy thing." }, { "start": 3076.4, "end": 3077.88, "text": " He's not lying." }, { "start": 3077.88, "end": 3080.84, "text": " It is the appy thing." }, { "start": 3080.84, "end": 3081.84, "text": " It's the home screen." }, { "start": 3081.84, "end": 3082.84, "text": " It's the home screen." }, { "start": 3082.84, "end": 3085.84, "text": " It's the app that runs the home screen or system process or whatever you want to call" }, { "start": 3085.84, "end": 3086.84, "text": " it." }, { "start": 3086.84, "end": 3088.84, "text": " So no, I've been told that, you know, the appy thing." }, { "start": 3088.84, "end": 3092.28, "text": " Now I've been told that it crashes in the background." }, { "start": 3092.28, "end": 3095.1200000000003, "text": " I tweeted about it and people are like, yeah, it happens to me all the time." }, { "start": 3095.1200000000003, "end": 3096.6000000000004, "text": " Also, it's fundamentally useless." }, { "start": 3096.6000000000004, "end": 3097.6000000000004, "text": " It does one thing." }, { "start": 3097.6000000000004, "end": 3098.6000000000004, "text": " It unlocks your phone." }, { "start": 3098.6, "end": 3099.6, "text": " It does it really well." }, { "start": 3099.6, "end": 3100.6, "text": " Great." }, { "start": 3100.6, "end": 3104.08, "text": " But you know what also does a good job of unlocking anything like typing in the code" }, { "start": 3104.08, "end": 3107.8199999999997, "text": " or not having a, like, you know, like I, it just doesn't bother me." }, { "start": 3107.8199999999997, "end": 3110.08, "text": " So I will say, when it does other stuff, maybe it'll bother you." }, { "start": 3110.08, "end": 3114.62, "text": " I will say this, uh, typing in a code to unlock my phone bothers me far less than the iPhone" }, { "start": 3114.62, "end": 3118.7599999999998, "text": " than it does on most Android phones because the screen is larger." }, { "start": 3118.7599999999998, "end": 3122.3199999999997, "text": " So I'm like, I have to reposition the phone to get my thumb across to the other side of" }, { "start": 3122.3199999999997, "end": 3123.3199999999997, "text": " the screen." }, { "start": 3123.3199999999997, "end": 3127.52, "text": " Whereas the iPhone is small enough so I can just keep my hand and phone in one place." }, { "start": 3127.52, "end": 3128.92, "text": " This is like the ultimate first world problem." }, { "start": 3128.92, "end": 3129.92, "text": " I'm sorry." }, { "start": 3129.92, "end": 3130.92, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3130.92, "end": 3132.2, "text": " Um, look, I like that idea." }, { "start": 3132.2, "end": 3137.68, "text": " It does seem like, so how necessary is it to password protect your phone?" }, { "start": 3137.68, "end": 3138.68, "text": " Very necessary." }, { "start": 3138.68, "end": 3139.68, "text": " Very necessary." }, { "start": 3139.68, "end": 3143.52, "text": " Why aren't you connected to our company's email?" }, { "start": 3143.52, "end": 3144.84, "text": " It's extremely necessary." }, { "start": 3144.84, "end": 3151.84, "text": " My phone is never out of my, that's what they all say until you feel like there's a really" }, { "start": 3151.84, "end": 3153.6, "text": " obvious to what you're saying." }, { "start": 3153.6, "end": 3157.52, "text": " Where I was going to go with this is that it's, it's not crucial now, but very soon" }, { "start": 3157.52, "end": 3160.6, "text": " it will be crucial because you'll be paying with your phone." }, { "start": 3160.6, "end": 3163, "text": " You'll be, you'll have your social security number on your phone." }, { "start": 3163, "end": 3165.8399999999997, "text": " If you got my phone, you could go on like an Amazon rampage." }, { "start": 3165.8399999999997, "end": 3166.8399999999997, "text": " Like you just do it." }, { "start": 3166.8399999999997, "end": 3169.2, "text": " You could buy a bunch of stuff in the Amazon app on my phone." }, { "start": 3169.2, "end": 3170.2, "text": " Stay the hell away from me." }, { "start": 3170.2, "end": 3171.2, "text": " You're lying eyes." }, { "start": 3171.2, "end": 3172.2, "text": " Then it's going to go to your house." }, { "start": 3172.2, "end": 3173.2, "text": " Huh?" }, { "start": 3173.2, "end": 3174.2, "text": " Then it's going to go to your house." }, { "start": 3174.2, "end": 3175.2, "text": " That's true." }, { "start": 3175.2, "end": 3176.2, "text": " Um, well, I don't have it." }, { "start": 3176.2, "end": 3180.96, "text": " I don't have any financial information on my phone." }, { "start": 3180.96, "end": 3183.7200000000003, "text": " That's what they all say until all of a sudden you're compromised." }, { "start": 3183.7200000000003, "end": 3184.7200000000003, "text": " Yeah, we're not." }, { "start": 3184.7200000000003, "end": 3190.56, "text": " Wait, how there's no way they all say I don't have any financial information on my phone" }, { "start": 3190.56, "end": 3191.56, "text": " until the day they're compromised." }, { "start": 3191.56, "end": 3192.56, "text": " And they're like, wait a minute." }, { "start": 3192.56, "end": 3193.56, "text": " I did have financial information." }, { "start": 3193.56, "end": 3198.56, "text": " It's the same tragic story over and over again." }, { "start": 3198.56, "end": 3202.28, "text": " Same tragic illogical story over and over and over again." }, { "start": 3202.28, "end": 3205.16, "text": " So yeah, there's an argument for having a password on your phone." }, { "start": 3205.16, "end": 3207.28, "text": " I don't think it's essential." }, { "start": 3207.28, "end": 3209.28, "text": " I think it's going to be essential soon." }, { "start": 3209.28, "end": 3212, "text": " You are definitely crazy." }, { "start": 3212, "end": 3216.6000000000004, "text": " And I'm definitely telling you in this preschool, we put passwords on our phones." }, { "start": 3216.6000000000004, "end": 3219.2000000000003, "text": " Like, no, you have to have a pass." }, { "start": 3219.2000000000003, "end": 3220.2000000000003, "text": " And it's fine." }, { "start": 3220.2000000000003, "end": 3221.2000000000003, "text": " Touch ID is great." }, { "start": 3221.2000000000003, "end": 3225.2400000000002, "text": " I'm saying on the iPad, like typing, like the number of times that I unlock my phone" }, { "start": 3225.2400000000002, "end": 3230.0800000000004, "text": " today is like an order of magnitude higher than the number of times I unlock my iPad." }, { "start": 3230.0800000000004, "end": 3231.0800000000004, "text": " Right?" }, { "start": 3231.0800000000004, "end": 3233, "text": " Like I use my iPad and I'm like, I'm using it." }, { "start": 3233, "end": 3237.1200000000003, "text": " So I got my phone stolen once and they did not look at my email." }, { "start": 3237.12, "end": 3243.92, "text": " I actually kept the service on because I thought it would help find the phone, which it did." }, { "start": 3243.92, "end": 3248.6, "text": " NYPD ended up calling them and trapping them." }, { "start": 3248.6, "end": 3251.56, "text": " They like texted and said like, this is my phone." }, { "start": 3251.56, "end": 3253.48, "text": " Like I'll give you 200 bucks to get it back." }, { "start": 3253.48, "end": 3256.04, "text": " And then they like met up and then the cops arrested them." }, { "start": 3256.04, "end": 3257.04, "text": " I have two questions about this." }, { "start": 3257.04, "end": 3258.04, "text": " One." }, { "start": 3258.04, "end": 3260.04, "text": " Anyway, so do you want to know what they did do with my phone?" }, { "start": 3260.04, "end": 3261.04, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3261.04, "end": 3262.04, "text": " And then I have two questions." }, { "start": 3262.04, "end": 3263.04, "text": " Look at porn." }, { "start": 3263.04, "end": 3264.04, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3264.04, "end": 3265.04, "text": " What else would you do?" }, { "start": 3265.04, "end": 3268.32, "text": " So like that, that's what people do when they steal phones." }, { "start": 3268.32, "end": 3271.8, "text": " They don't go into your email or go on an Amazon shopping spree." }, { "start": 3271.8, "end": 3273.32, "text": " Now I have, now I have three questions." }, { "start": 3273.32, "end": 3275.08, "text": " I have another set of questions." }, { "start": 3275.08, "end": 3277.32, "text": " So one, the NYPD helped you." }, { "start": 3277.32, "end": 3284.7599999999998, "text": " Two, they used the dumbest gambit in the history of like cop gambits and that succeeded." }, { "start": 3284.7599999999998, "end": 3285.7599999999998, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3285.7599999999998, "end": 3286.7599999999998, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 3286.7599999999998, "end": 3289.08, "text": " Three, you believe that all people just look at porn on phones." }, { "start": 3289.08, "end": 3290.08, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3290.08, "end": 3291.08, "text": " Just criminals." }, { "start": 3291.08, "end": 3292.08, "text": " Just criminals." }, { "start": 3292.08, "end": 3293.08, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3293.08, "end": 3294.08, "text": " You have evidence." }, { "start": 3294.08, "end": 3295.08, "text": " What evidence do you have?" }, { "start": 3295.08, "end": 3296.08, "text": " Uh, I don't know." }, { "start": 3296.08, "end": 3297.08, "text": " I've lost a lot of phones." }, { "start": 3297.08, "end": 3300.08, "text": " Like, and did anybody go on an Amazon shopping spree?" }, { "start": 3300.08, "end": 3302.08, "text": " No, cause he couldn't unlock my phone." }, { "start": 3302.08, "end": 3303.08, "text": " Oh, right." }, { "start": 3303.08, "end": 3304.08, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3304.08, "end": 3308.08, "text": " I mean, I once I, one time I watched my phone just sort of drive away in Las Vegas." }, { "start": 3308.08, "end": 3311.08, "text": " Like, was it like on top of the car?" }, { "start": 3311.08, "end": 3312.08, "text": " Was it on top of the cab?" }, { "start": 3312.08, "end": 3313.08, "text": " No, no, no." }, { "start": 3313.08, "end": 3314.08, "text": " It was like on find my phone." }, { "start": 3314.08, "end": 3315.08, "text": " I just like watched it leave." }, { "start": 3315.08, "end": 3323.08, "text": " I think I remember you were laying this story to me wearing sunglasses, just looking." }, { "start": 3323.08, "end": 3328.08, "text": " Worse for the wear from Las Vegas international airport." }, { "start": 3328.08, "end": 3329.08, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3329.08, "end": 3332.08, "text": " The Karen, uh, the morning after CES ended." }, { "start": 3332.08, "end": 3333.08, "text": " No." }, { "start": 3333.08, "end": 3334.08, "text": " Uh, and Nina lost a phone too." }, { "start": 3334.08, "end": 3336.08, "text": " Oh, and uh, Leo lost a phone." }, { "start": 3336.08, "end": 3337.08, "text": " Leo, Leo lost a phone." }, { "start": 3337.08, "end": 3338.08, "text": " Everyone." }, { "start": 3338.08, "end": 3345.2, "text": " The leo phone, uh, when we got back was not like we, uh, a group of bros had acquired" }, { "start": 3345.2, "end": 3347.96, "text": " the phone and we went to their bro hotel to." }, { "start": 3347.96, "end": 3348.96, "text": " Bro tell." }, { "start": 3348.96, "end": 3349.96, "text": " Bro tell." }, { "start": 3349.96, "end": 3350.96, "text": " We went to the bro tell." }, { "start": 3350.96, "end": 3351.96, "text": " Take 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hobo." }, { "start": 3377.96, "end": 3379.96, "text": " That when you lose your phone, two things happen." }, { "start": 3379.96, "end": 3383.96, "text": " Either somebody brings it back to you or they're a bad person and they look at porn on it." }, { "start": 3383.96, "end": 3385.96, "text": " And then you have to get the police involved." }, { "start": 3385.96, "end": 3386.96, "text": " Those are the two possibilities." }, { "start": 3386.96, "end": 3387.96, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3387.96, "end": 3390.96, "text": " And the cops have to come because there's no other way to look at porn." }, { "start": 3390.96, "end": 3391.96, "text": " I called the police." }, { "start": 3391.96, "end": 3392.96, "text": " But on a stolen phone." }, { "start": 3392.96, "end": 3398.96, "text": " Uh, so Aaron tells me, uh, uh, told me, so two things." }, { "start": 3398.96, "end": 3400.96, "text": " First of all, we should talk about this breaking news." }, { "start": 3400.96, "end": 3406.96, "text": " Evan tells me that a star Wars episode, uh, seven is con is confirmed for December 18th," }, { "start": 3406.96, "end": 3410.96, "text": " 2015, which is not Memorial day weekend, which is weird for a star Wars movie." }, { "start": 3410.96, "end": 3411.96, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3411.96, "end": 3412.96, "text": " Uh, this is breaking news." }, { "start": 3412.96, "end": 3414.96, "text": " It's live on the verge right now." }, { "start": 3414.96, "end": 3416.96, "text": " Uh, check it out from our own Brian Bishop." }, { "start": 3416.96, "end": 3418.96, "text": " I'm very concerned about this movie." }, { "start": 3418.96, "end": 3419.96, "text": " As you should be." }, { "start": 3419.96, "end": 3425.96, "text": " Uh, there, there's like this magical chair thing going on with the, uh, with the directors" }, { "start": 3425.96, "end": 3428.96, "text": " and writers, magical chair, musical chair." }, { "start": 3428.96, "end": 3429.96, "text": " Thank you." }, { "start": 3429.96, "end": 3430.96, "text": " That's what it's called." }, { "start": 3430.96, "end": 3433.96, "text": " I mean, magical chairs definitely like what the predators play with the children instead" }, { "start": 3433.96, "end": 3434.96, "text": " of musical chairs." }, { "start": 3434.96, "end": 3437.96, "text": " And they look at porn on stolen." }, { "start": 3437.96, "end": 3441.96, "text": " Hang on kids like, yeah, right." }, { "start": 3441.96, "end": 3442.96, "text": " There's the artful Dodger." }, { "start": 3442.96, "end": 3443.96, "text": " He's out stealing phones." }, { "start": 3443.96, "end": 3446.96, "text": " Look at porn on and the rest of the children are stuck inside the warehouse, like magical" }, { "start": 3446.96, "end": 3452.96, "text": " chairs, a terrifying vision of, of, of reality in New York city." }, { "start": 3452.96, "end": 3454.96, "text": " Uh, don't bring your kids here." }, { "start": 3454.96, "end": 3459.96, "text": " But what I wanted to say is that Aaron, uh, at mobile Congress two years ago had his phone" }, { "start": 3459.96, "end": 3460.96, "text": " pickpocketed too." }, { "start": 3460.96, "end": 3463.96, "text": " Uh, and there was no porn being looked at on that phone as far as I know." }, { "start": 3463.96, "end": 3469.96, "text": " Because the cops somehow got the phone back from the pickpocketer and called his girlfriend" }, { "start": 3469.96, "end": 3470.96, "text": " and he got the phone back." }, { "start": 3470.96, "end": 3471.96, "text": " What are these cops doing?" }, { "start": 3471.96, "end": 3474.96, "text": " They're constantly swooping into rescue phones." }, { "start": 3474.96, "end": 3475.96, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3475.96, "end": 3476.96, "text": " It's a thing." }, { "start": 3476.96, "end": 3477.96, "text": " Robbed in Las Vegas." }, { "start": 3477.96, "end": 3478.96, "text": " You what?" }, { "start": 3478.96, "end": 3480.96, "text": " I have to stop getting robbed in Las Vegas." }, { "start": 3480.96, "end": 3481.96, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3481.96, "end": 3484.96, "text": " I was making his cops like, well, we all have stories." }, { "start": 3484.96, "end": 3485.96, "text": " It's Vegas." }, { "start": 3485.96, "end": 3486.96, "text": " What do you expect?" }, { "start": 3486.96, "end": 3487.96, "text": " And then they rob you." }, { "start": 3487.96, "end": 3490.96, "text": " One time a hooker robbed me in Las Vegas." }, { "start": 3490.96, "end": 3491.96, "text": " It's a true story." }, { "start": 3491.96, "end": 3493.96, "text": " I think, uh, um, just putting it out there." }, { "start": 3493.96, "end": 3495.96, "text": " Just a thing that happened to me." }, { "start": 3495.96, "end": 3498.96, "text": " It's really weird to me that this movie is not coming out on Memorial Day weekend." }, { "start": 3498.96, "end": 3500.96, "text": " That's the first one ever that has not come out." }, { "start": 3500.96, "end": 3502.96, "text": " I think it's not coming out, come out on Memorial Day." }, { "start": 3502.96, "end": 3504.96, "text": " Um, can I, we should finish talking about this iPad." }, { "start": 3504.96, "end": 3505.96, "text": " We've gotten fully off." }, { "start": 3505.96, "end": 3506.96, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 3506.96, "end": 3507.96, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 3507.96, "end": 3509.96, "text": " Um, so here's my theory about the iPad right now." }, { "start": 3509.96, "end": 3512.96, "text": " I feel like they rushed out iOS seven." }, { "start": 3512.96, "end": 3514.96, "text": " They rushed, they obviously rushed out super fast." }, { "start": 3514.96, "end": 3518.96, "text": " I don't think it's a finished operating system by any stretch of the imagination." }, { "start": 3518.96, "end": 3523.96, "text": " I think there are, uh, lots of things on the iPhone that are like kind of broken." }, { "start": 3523.96, "end": 3525.96, "text": " Um, I'm assuming this happens to everyone." }, { "start": 3525.96, "end": 3530.96, "text": " If you, there's, there's a way you can open iPhone app where the, um, yeah." }, { "start": 3530.96, "end": 3531.96, "text": " I can swoop up at you." }, { "start": 3531.96, "end": 3536.96, "text": " If you do it, it's like five times out of 10, the animation gets stuck and there's like a little cloud." }, { "start": 3536.96, "end": 3538.96, "text": " Does this ever happen to you, Chris?" }, { "start": 3538.96, "end": 3539.96, "text": " No." }, { "start": 3539.96, "end": 3543.96, "text": " So if you search for an app that's on your home screen and you open it in the spotlight," }, { "start": 3543.96, "end": 3546.96, "text": " the home screen icons like fly you and then the app opens." }, { "start": 3546.96, "end": 3547.96, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3547.96, "end": 3555.96, "text": " So every, like five times out of 10 that animation gets stuck and there's like a little cloud of like the word photos that like lives in the corner of your screen." }, { "start": 3555.96, "end": 3559.96, "text": " It's like the least Apple-y thing in the world that like this animation doesn't complete itself on time." }, { "start": 3559.96, "end": 3562.96, "text": " I've never seen that once and it's possible." }, { "start": 3562.96, "end": 3563.96, "text": " Is it your weird thumb?" }, { "start": 3563.96, "end": 3564.96, "text": " It's my weird thumb, obviously." }, { "start": 3564.96, "end": 3567.96, "text": " Maybe it's just that I don't use universal search like ever." }, { "start": 3567.96, "end": 3568.96, "text": " Oh yeah." }, { "start": 3568.96, "end": 3569.96, "text": " I open everything with spotlight." }, { "start": 3569.96, "end": 3570.96, "text": " So I see it all the time." }, { "start": 3570.96, "end": 3576.96, "text": " Uh, so like anyway, but I, for the, by and large, like whatever, like the iPhone was finished, right?" }, { "start": 3576.96, "end": 3580.96, "text": " There are still like some weird twer, like tweaks they need to make and like quirks about it." }, { "start": 3580.96, "end": 3583.96, "text": " Um, and then the iPad is like, you didn't finish this at all." }, { "start": 3583.96, "end": 3586.96, "text": " You just like scaled up like things on the iPad." }, { "start": 3586.96, "end": 3587.96, "text": " Like what does Apple say about the iPad?" }, { "start": 3587.96, "end": 3589.96, "text": " Like our apps are better." }, { "start": 3589.96, "end": 3590.96, "text": " They're optimized for the iPad." }, { "start": 3590.96, "end": 3593.96, "text": " And then all kinds of stuff is just blown up iPhone stuff." }, { "start": 3593.96, "end": 3597.96, "text": " So like notification center is the blown up iPhone notification." }, { "start": 3597.96, "end": 3598.96, "text": " It makes no sense." }, { "start": 3598.96, "end": 3600.96, "text": " It's like, shouldn't this be more useful than the iPhone?" }, { "start": 3600.96, "end": 3603.96, "text": " Uh, Siri is just blown up iPhone Siri." }, { "start": 3603.96, "end": 3612.96, "text": " And it's like, this should be way more useful or like on all the time or like doing something else in this form factor than just being gigantic iPhone Siri." }, { "start": 3612.96, "end": 3614.96, "text": " Um, this far icon is terrible." }, { "start": 3614.96, "end": 3615.96, "text": " I'm just saying it." }, { "start": 3615.96, "end": 3616.96, "text": " I'm going to say it again." }, { "start": 3616.96, "end": 3617.96, "text": " I put it in the review." }, { "start": 3617.96, "end": 3618.96, "text": " It was, it was a joke." }, { "start": 3618.96, "end": 3622.96, "text": " It's a con, but because you've trolled me so consistently, it is no longer a joke." }, { "start": 3622.96, "end": 3626.96, "text": " Uh, and it is now how I feel in my heart, which is actually how I feel in my heart because it's terrible." }, { "start": 3626.96, "end": 3629.96, "text": " Uh, and it's just buggy all over the place." }, { "start": 3629.96, "end": 3630.96, "text": " Um, I don't know." }, { "start": 3630.96, "end": 3632.96, "text": " Like, so it's, the air is great." }, { "start": 3632.96, "end": 3634.96, "text": " It's the iPad." }, { "start": 3634.96, "end": 3635.96, "text": " iPads are really good." }, { "start": 3635.96, "end": 3642.96, "text": " I think the air is the best iPad they've made because it's smaller and lighter, but iOS seven is a mess, especially on the iPad." }, { "start": 3642.96, "end": 3643.96, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3643.96, "end": 3645.96, "text": " I mean, I haven't used it on an iPad, so I can't speak to that." }, { "start": 3645.96, "end": 3646.96, "text": " I think they were just in a rush." }, { "start": 3646.96, "end": 3649.96, "text": " Like they're just in some weird crazy rush." }, { "start": 3649.96, "end": 3652.96, "text": " And I don't know why it feels very on Apple to be in this rush." }, { "start": 3652.96, "end": 3653.96, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3653.96, "end": 3654.96, "text": " Well they have this cadence, right?" }, { "start": 3654.96, "end": 3657.96, "text": " Like it would have looked weird if it hadn't come out until 2014, right?" }, { "start": 3657.96, "end": 3659.96, "text": " If I was seven had been pushed in 2014." }, { "start": 3659.96, "end": 3664.96, "text": " Yeah, that would have been weird and would have delayed the five S and the five C presumably." }, { "start": 3664.96, "end": 3668.96, "text": " So that would have been a mess, but I have to say the same is true with a Mavericks." }, { "start": 3668.96, "end": 3670.96, "text": " I mean Mavericks has been a nightmare for me." }, { "start": 3670.96, "end": 3671.96, "text": " You think so?" }, { "start": 3671.96, "end": 3672.96, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3672.96, "end": 3673.96, "text": " It's been fine for me." }, { "start": 3673.96, "end": 3674.96, "text": " It is the worst thing ever." }, { "start": 3674.96, "end": 3678.96, "text": " Every time time machine kicks in, I lose my internet connection until it's done." }, { "start": 3678.96, "end": 3681.96, "text": " It's a nightmare." }, { "start": 3681.96, "end": 3682.96, "text": " Why?" }, { "start": 3682.96, "end": 3685.96, "text": " Wait, doesn't on that computer?" }, { "start": 3685.96, "end": 3686.96, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 3686.96, "end": 3690.96, "text": " On this one, every time time machine turns on the internet connection goes away until it's done." }, { "start": 3690.96, "end": 3691.96, "text": " That's problem one." }, { "start": 3691.96, "end": 3693.96, "text": " Problem two, and this is a big one." }, { "start": 3693.96, "end": 3701.96, "text": " I'd say about once a day it just shuts off in the middle of whatever I'm doing and won't turn back on until I unplug my second monitor." }, { "start": 3701.96, "end": 3704.96, "text": " I think maybe you might have a hardware issue." }, { "start": 3704.96, "end": 3706.96, "text": " I'm just putting that one out there." }, { "start": 3706.96, "end": 3707.96, "text": " I don't think that's a good." }, { "start": 3707.96, "end": 3711.96, "text": " I think if once a day everybody with a second monitor had their computer turning off." }, { "start": 3711.96, "end": 3714.96, "text": " I'm just, well, I'm blaming Mavericks." }, { "start": 3714.96, "end": 3717.96, "text": " I mean, I've seen people blame Mavericks for everything, but I have no problems with it." }, { "start": 3717.96, "end": 3727.96, "text": " No, I was telling Phil Nickinson of Android Central, he was saying something was going haywire in Mavericks, and I responded that it's come down to blame Obama and blame Mavericks." }, { "start": 3727.96, "end": 3730.96, "text": " Those are the two things you're allowed to blame for every single problem that's going on right now." }, { "start": 3730.96, "end": 3731.96, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3731.96, "end": 3732.96, "text": " We'll see what happens." }, { "start": 3732.96, "end": 3739.96, "text": " I mean, like, so I think Mark Herman was saying that, like, if you look at historical trends, point one will come out in three weeks." }, { "start": 3739.96, "end": 3740.96, "text": " So we'll see." }, { "start": 3740.96, "end": 3741.96, "text": " We'll see." }, { "start": 3741.96, "end": 3745.96, "text": " I don't know what you do about the iPad here though." }, { "start": 3745.96, "end": 3751.96, "text": " I just think like they, this is going to sound really weird to say because they're going to sell a ton of these iPads." }, { "start": 3751.96, "end": 3763.96, "text": " But I think if they want to grow the iPad as a thing in the world, they need to start thinking that as some, like that version of iOS that's on the iPad needs to become meaningfully different than the version that's on the iPad." }, { "start": 3763.96, "end": 3766.96, "text": " Well, you were convinced before the event that they were going to do pro." }, { "start": 3766.96, "end": 3770.96, "text": " They should do a pro and they should, they should figure out how to make a real keyboard work with this thing." }, { "start": 3770.96, "end": 3772.96, "text": " But, but let me ask you this." }, { "start": 3772.96, "end": 3776.96, "text": " Say they come out with a 799 or 899 iPad Pro." }, { "start": 3776.96, "end": 3778.96, "text": " You can pair a Bluetooth keyboard." }, { "start": 3778.96, "end": 3784.96, "text": " How do you position that against 11 inch and 11 inch MacBook Air?" }, { "start": 3784.96, "end": 3785.96, "text": " How do you do it?" }, { "start": 3785.96, "end": 3786.96, "text": " You just do it." }, { "start": 3786.96, "end": 3787.96, "text": " What do you mean?" }, { "start": 3787.96, "end": 3788.96, "text": " Who cares?" }, { "start": 3788.96, "end": 3790.96, "text": " The, the, the, the prices are too close." }, { "start": 3790.96, "end": 3795.96, "text": " I don't think people walk in the store wondering like what thousand dollars am I spending in the Apple store." }, { "start": 3795.96, "end": 3796.96, "text": " No, no, you do." }, { "start": 3796.96, "end": 3797.96, "text": " No, you absolutely do." }, { "start": 3797.96, "end": 3807.96, "text": " And here's why, because every time you go to an airport, count the number of people who are using an iPad in a metal Logitech keyboard dock that looks exactly like a laptop." }, { "start": 3807.96, "end": 3808.96, "text": " Yeah, that's what I'm saying." }, { "start": 3808.96, "end": 3810.96, "text": " They want a little Apple laptop." }, { "start": 3810.96, "end": 3811.96, "text": " That's what they want." }, { "start": 3811.96, "end": 3813.96, "text": " But they're not buying the 11 inch Air." }, { "start": 3813.96, "end": 3814.96, "text": " They want an iPad." }, { "start": 3814.96, "end": 3816.96, "text": " They're not buying a Surface either." }, { "start": 3816.96, "end": 3820.96, "text": " Yeah, but, but I think that's because the price is noticeably different." }, { "start": 3820.96, "end": 3827.96, "text": " Like if you, if you positioned an iPad pro at the same price point as MacBook Air, that becomes a much harder choice to make." }, { "start": 3827.96, "end": 3828.96, "text": " Why?" }, { "start": 3828.96, "end": 3830.96, "text": " They're already making it." }, { "start": 3830.96, "end": 3832.96, "text": " Not, not the same price." }, { "start": 3832.96, "end": 3834.96, "text": " I mean, I'm just, I mean, maybe 64 gig LTE." }, { "start": 3834.96, "end": 3835.96, "text": " What's that?" }, { "start": 3835.96, "end": 3836.96, "text": " It's 120." }, { "start": 3836.96, "end": 3837.96, "text": " You can buy a $930 iPad." }, { "start": 3837.96, "end": 3838.96, "text": " Yeah, fair enough." }, { "start": 3838.96, "end": 3840.96, "text": " I don't know who does that." }, { "start": 3840.96, "end": 3845.96, "text": " So that iPad, by the way, people, that's the one that people talk about is like being competitive with the laptops." }, { "start": 3845.96, "end": 3850.96, "text": " I think that iPad is like the 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[ { "start": 0, "end": 2.92, "text": " It's Thursday, November 7th, 2013." }, { "start": 2.92, "end": 7.76, "text": " I'm Katie Drummond, and my life will not be complete until I can 3D print Hummus." }, { "start": 7.76, "end": 9.24, "text": " This is 90 Seconds on the Verge." }, { "start": 9.24, "end": 10.6, "text": " Twitter has gone public." }, { "start": 10.6, "end": 14.84, "text": " The company's initial public offering opened today on New York Stock Exchange at just over" }, { "start": 14.84, "end": 18.36, "text": " $45 per share this morning and closed at $44.90." }, { "start": 18.36, "end": 22.72, "text": " Twitter's debut has so far been rather clean and drama-free, unlike Facebook's calamitous" }, { "start": 22.72, "end": 24.88, "text": " debut on NASDAQ last year." }, { "start": 24.88, "end": 30.919999999999998, "text": " Star Wars Episode VII is coming to a galaxy not so far, far away on December 18th, 2015." }, { "start": 30.919999999999998, "end": 34.96, "text": " Star Wars films have traditionally hit theaters in May, but reports recently surfaced that" }, { "start": 34.96, "end": 38.42, "text": " Lucasfilm and Disney were battling over the 2015 release date." }, { "start": 38.42, "end": 43, "text": " Last month, director J.J. Abrams and longtime Star Wars writer Lawrence Kasdan took over" }, { "start": 43, "end": 45.86, "text": " the script from Toy Story 3 scribe Michael Arndt." }, { "start": 45.86, "end": 51, "text": " So get in line, superfans, because Episode VII is now only 770 days away." }, { "start": 51, "end": 53.64, "text": " Finally, another universe is expanding." }, { "start": 53.64, "end": 58.68, "text": " Marvel announced it is creating four new live-action superhero shows set to premiere exclusively" }, { "start": 58.68, "end": 61.02, "text": " on Netflix beginning in 2015." }, { "start": 61.02, "end": 65.04, "text": " As of now, 13 episodes are being produced for each series and will focus on Daredevil," }, { "start": 65.04, "end": 67.8, "text": " Jessica Jones, Iron Fist, and Luke Cage." }, { "start": 67.8, "end": 71.92, "text": " And in typical Avengers style, the characters will eventually all come together for a special" }, { "start": 71.92, "end": 74.34, "text": " miniseries called The Defenders." }, { "start": 74.34, "end": 78.84, "text": " This news marks Marvel's biggest venture into television yet and easily Netflix's largest" }, { "start": 78.84, "end": 79.84, "text": " commitment." }, { "start": 79.84, "end": 81.28, "text": " And that's it for today's top stories." }, { "start": 81.28, "end": 85.88, "text": " Coming up tomorrow, I reveal my plans for the first prank store to be built on Mars." }, { "start": 85.88, "end": 112.03999999999999, "text": " Three words, galactic whoopee cushions." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 2.3000000000000003, "text": " It's Wednesday, November 6th, 2013." }, { "start": 2.3000000000000003, "end": 5.8, "text": " I'm David Pierce, and in my free time, I like to go big Berg watching." }, { "start": 5.8, "end": 8, "text": " Though most people just call that Sesame Street." }, { "start": 8, "end": 9.6, "text": " This is 90 Seconds on the Verge." }, { "start": 9.6, "end": 11.5, "text": " The tech scene has lost its cheerleader." }, { "start": 11.5, "end": 13.8, "text": " Bill de Blasio has been elected mayor of New York City" }, { "start": 13.8, "end": 16.5, "text": " and will take over for Michael Bloomberg on January 1st." }, { "start": 16.5, "end": 21.400000000000002, "text": " During Bloomberg's tenure, technology became the second largest industry in New York City behind finance." }, { "start": 21.400000000000002, "end": 23.8, "text": " While de Blasio hasn't made startups as large a focus," }, { "start": 23.8, "end": 27.1, "text": " he has committed to expanding broadband access throughout the boroughs," }, { "start": 27.1, "end": 29.3, "text": " as well as investing heavily in tech education." }, { "start": 29.3, "end": 32.4, "text": " Bloomberg's aggressive boosterism, meanwhile, will live on in Chicago." }, { "start": 32.4, "end": 36.2, "text": " Mayor Rahm Emanuel has vowed to double the city's tech sector over the next decade." }, { "start": 36.2, "end": 39.2, "text": " The long-awaited nail has finally reached the coffin." }, { "start": 39.2, "end": 43.6, "text": " Blockbuster will close its last 300 retail stores in the U.S. by early January." }, { "start": 43.6, "end": 46.2, "text": " While Blockbuster's streaming rental service will still exist," }, { "start": 46.2, "end": 48.400000000000006, "text": " the company's fallen far from its throne." }, { "start": 48.400000000000006, "end": 52.6, "text": " At its peak, the rental giant was operating over 9,000 stores worldwide." }, { "start": 52.6, "end": 56.7, "text": " Honestly, my first reaction was, Blockbuster still has 300 stores?" }, { "start": 56.7, "end": 58.6, "text": " And finally, calm down, everyone." }, { "start": 58.6, "end": 60.6, "text": " There is no zombie apocalypse." }, { "start": 60.6, "end": 63.1, "text": " In what was called a quote, internal production problem," }, { "start": 63.1, "end": 66.1, "text": " Fox News' website appeared to be defaced yesterday afternoon," }, { "start": 66.1, "end": 69.3, "text": " with headlines referencing gold miners and, yes, zombies." }, { "start": 69.3, "end": 72.4, "text": " Fox now says that the mishap was the result of a prototype homepage" }, { "start": 72.4, "end": 74.7, "text": " accidentally being published onto its main site." }, { "start": 74.7, "end": 77.6, "text": " As for The Verge, we will continue prototyping our homepage" }, { "start": 77.6, "end": 79.8, "text": " using pictures of Bjork dressed as an audit." }, { "start": 79.8, "end": 81.2, "text": " And that's it for today's top stories." }, { "start": 81.2, "end": 85.3, "text": " Coming up tomorrow, I continue my month-long hunt for the perfect turkey." }, { "start": 85.3, "end": 90.3, "text": " Tube TV" } ]

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[ { "start": 0, "end": 2.72, "text": " It's Tuesday, November 5th, 2013." }, { "start": 2.72, "end": 5.36, "text": " I'm Nathan Seiger, and I kneel a nebbish, nimble, nuanced" }, { "start": 5.36, "end": 6.12, "text": " narrator." }, { "start": 6.12, "end": 7.72, "text": " For no normal, nameless naysayer would" }, { "start": 7.72, "end": 10.24, "text": " know to be nifty yet nitpicky in their choice of nonfiction." }, { "start": 10.24, "end": 11.88, "text": " But I knowingly choose Nocturnal Nights" }, { "start": 11.88, "end": 14.36, "text": " to bring you, the viewer, the news with nary and network" }, { "start": 14.36, "end": 15.040000000000001, "text": " nicety." }, { "start": 15.040000000000001, "end": 16.76, "text": " Now necromancers and Nickelback nerds" }, { "start": 16.76, "end": 18.36, "text": " relax and gnaw on nine nectarines" }, { "start": 18.36, "end": 21.28, "text": " while knitting or needlepointing, for this" }, { "start": 21.28, "end": 23, "text": " is 90 Seconds on the Verge." }, { "start": 23, "end": 24.44, "text": " Everpix is shutting down." }, { "start": 24.44, "end": 26.92, "text": " The photo startup was a favorite among the Verge staff," }, { "start": 26.92, "end": 28.68, "text": " but unfortunately, user growth failed" }, { "start": 28.68, "end": 31.4, "text": " to keep pace with the rising costs of running service." }, { "start": 31.4, "end": 34.04, "text": " Everpix says user data is safe, and photos can soon" }, { "start": 34.04, "end": 35.36, "text": " be downloaded off the site." }, { "start": 35.36, "end": 37.480000000000004, "text": " The company also says they're planning on refunding" }, { "start": 37.480000000000004, "end": 38.64, "text": " all of their customers." }, { "start": 38.64, "end": 40.56, "text": " T-Mobile rebranded itself earlier this year" }, { "start": 40.56, "end": 42.64, "text": " with its Uncarrier initiative, and it's actually" }, { "start": 42.64, "end": 43.68, "text": " working for them." }, { "start": 43.68, "end": 46.82, "text": " The company added 643,000 postpaid customers" }, { "start": 46.82, "end": 47.84, "text": " in its third quarter." }, { "start": 47.84, "end": 50.8, "text": " After years of quarterly decline in postpaid customers," }, { "start": 50.8, "end": 52.6, "text": " T-Mobile seems to be steadily growing back" }, { "start": 52.6, "end": 53.84, "text": " to its previous size." }, { "start": 53.84, "end": 55.36, "text": " However, despite the new customers," }, { "start": 55.36, "end": 57.86, "text": " T-Mobile has yet to turn the subscriptions into profit." }, { "start": 57.86, "end": 60.519999999999996, "text": " And finally, Star Wars is going where no Meta-Chlorians have" }, { "start": 60.519999999999996, "end": 61.48, "text": " gone before." }, { "start": 61.48, "end": 63.519999999999996, "text": " Director JJ Abrams says he is set" }, { "start": 63.519999999999996, "end": 65.64, "text": " on returning the saga to its gritty and, quote," }, { "start": 65.64, "end": 67, "text": " space-Western roots." }, { "start": 67, "end": 69.08, "text": " Fans can expect a more mysterious world" }, { "start": 69.08, "end": 71.24, "text": " and dirtier aesthetics, something critics" }, { "start": 71.24, "end": 74.24, "text": " say was lost in the gleaming future scapes of the prequels." }, { "start": 74.24, "end": 76.96000000000001, "text": " Star Wars Episode VII is slated for summer 2015," }, { "start": 76.96000000000001, "end": 78.48, "text": " but according to Hollywood Reporter," }, { "start": 78.48, "end": 80.84, "text": " Lucasfilm has requested more time to accommodate" }, { "start": 80.84, "end": 81.94, "text": " changes in the script." }, { "start": 81.94, "end": 83.64, "text": " And that's it for today's top stories." }, { "start": 83.64, "end": 86.44, "text": " Coming up tomorrow, I remember, remember the 5th of November" }, { "start": 86.44, "end": 90.39999999999999, "text": " is the day that, shit, what was I supposed to remember?" } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 4.92, "text": " Greetings, mobile accomplishers." }, { "start": 4.92, "end": 7.0600000000000005, "text": " Welcome to the Verge Mobile Show." }, { "start": 7.0600000000000005, "end": 11.44, "text": " We are here and we're looking at the all new Google Hangouts interface, which doesn't give" }, { "start": 11.44, "end": 13.36, "text": " me a countdown, which is awesome." }, { "start": 13.36, "end": 14.36, "text": " So we're starting." }, { "start": 14.36, "end": 15.36, "text": " We're live." }, { "start": 15.36, "end": 16.36, "text": " I am Dieter Bohm." }, { "start": 16.36, "end": 19.52, "text": " I am Vlad Sabov." }, { "start": 19.52, "end": 21.42, "text": " I'm Dan Seifert." }, { "start": 21.42, "end": 27.3, "text": " And we are broadcasting without Mr. Chris Ziegler, although rumor has it that is a situation" }, { "start": 27.3, "end": 29.400000000000002, "text": " which will be resolved in short order." }, { "start": 29.4, "end": 30.4, "text": " So let's hope." }, { "start": 30.4, "end": 31.4, "text": " Fingers crossed." }, { "start": 31.4, "end": 33.04, "text": " How are you guys doing?" }, { "start": 33.04, "end": 36.28, "text": " I can't stand this new interface, man." }, { "start": 36.28, "end": 37.28, "text": " It's so bad." }, { "start": 37.28, "end": 38.28, "text": " It's like..." }, { "start": 38.28, "end": 42.72, "text": " I mean, we're putting the blame on Chris delaying us, but the truth is we spent the past 20" }, { "start": 42.72, "end": 46.44, "text": " minutes screwing around with the new Hangouts." }, { "start": 46.44, "end": 48.64, "text": " The effects that Google talked up..." }, { "start": 48.64, "end": 53.32, "text": " Yeah, the effects that Google talked up in its announcement and press releases and all" }, { "start": 53.32, "end": 55.32, "text": " this stuff are like terrible." }, { "start": 55.32, "end": 58.28, "text": " Like they're just amateur hour all over the place." }, { "start": 58.28, "end": 59.88, "text": " And this new interface is just bad." }, { "start": 59.88, "end": 62.72, "text": " So I vented." }, { "start": 62.72, "end": 64.16, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 64.16, "end": 70.4, "text": " Well, I think the thing to do is just start talking about this." }, { "start": 70.4, "end": 73.4, "text": " Everybody's got a window." }, { "start": 73.4, "end": 78.6, "text": " Show him if you got him." }, { "start": 78.6, "end": 79.92, "text": " It's really a bummer we don't have Chris here." }, { "start": 79.92, "end": 82.8, "text": " I'm pretty sure he doesn't have one." }, { "start": 82.8, "end": 83.8, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 83.8, "end": 87.56, "text": " So they announced the thing." }, { "start": 87.56, "end": 88.56, "text": " We reviewed the thing." }, { "start": 88.56, "end": 89.56, "text": " We reviewed KitKat." }, { "start": 89.56, "end": 94.2, "text": " Oh, in case you are listening to the audio only one and we're terrible, we were talking" }, { "start": 94.2, "end": 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113.88, "end": 114.88, "text": " Unbelievable." }, { "start": 114.88, "end": 125.19999999999999, "text": " So Thursday the 31st, it is $349 off contract for the 16 gig version and $399 for the 32" }, { "start": 125.19999999999999, "end": 126.19999999999999, "text": " gig version." }, { "start": 126.19999999999999, "end": 127.19999999999999, "text": " Does that sound right?" }, { "start": 127.19999999999999, "end": 128.2, "text": " Yep." }, { "start": 128.2, "end": 129.2, "text": " That's right." }, { "start": 129.2, "end": 131.72, "text": " The black one is way better than the white one." }, { "start": 131.72, "end": 133.72, "text": " Yeah, I agree." }, { "start": 133.72, "end": 134.72, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 134.72, "end": 135.72, "text": " Whatever." }, { "start": 135.72, "end": 136.72, "text": " Come on." }, { "start": 136.72, "end": 137.72, "text": " It's much better." }, { "start": 137.72, "end": 140.56, "text": " I don't normally say this, but I've got the white one." }, 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}, { "start": 245.72, "end": 249.96, "text": " I was there with David Pearce, and I did the hands-on." }, { "start": 249.96, "end": 255.56, "text": " And I guess we should talk about that hands-on because all of Google Plus is ridiculously" }, { "start": 255.56, "end": 257.84000000000003, "text": " pissed off at me." }, { "start": 257.84000000000003, "end": 258.84000000000003, "text": " And it's—" }, { "start": 258.84000000000003, "end": 259.84000000000003, "text": " They don't like you, Dieter." }, { "start": 259.84000000000003, "end": 260.84000000000003, "text": " Dude." }, { "start": 260.84000000000003, "end": 267.12, "text": " So, I mean, the first thing I'll say is I said—I did make a mistake in the hands-on," }, { "start": 267.12, "end": 269.52, "text": " and I will cop to it." }, { "start": 269.52, "end": 270.52, "text": " I made two mistakes." }, { "start": 270.52, "end": 274.64, "text": " Mistake number one is I said that Android cameras are traditionally bad, but really" }, { 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"text": " It's better than the Nexus 4." }, { "start": 370.64000000000004, "end": 372.12, "text": " That's, like, the worst thing you could possibly say." }, { "start": 372.12, "end": 378.6, "text": " It's the faintest of praise, but if you are comparing year over year Nexus device to the" }, { "start": 378.6, "end": 383.48, "text": " Nexus device, I think it's actually safe to say, again, faintest of praise, that it's" }, { "start": 383.48, "end": 386.96000000000004, "text": " the best camera on any Nexus device to date." }, { "start": 386.96, "end": 392.35999999999996, "text": " But as you've noted numerous times already, Nexus devices are not really known for having" }, { "start": 392.35999999999996, "end": 393.35999999999996, "text": " great cameras." }, { "start": 393.35999999999996, "end": 394.35999999999996, "text": " It's, like..." }, { "start": 394.35999999999996, "end": 395.35999999999996, "text": " I think we're really approaching this from the..." }, { "start": 395.35999999999996, "end": 397.32, "text": " It's like owning the fastest RV at the campground." }, { "start": 397.32, "end": 398.32, "text": " Wow." }, { "start": 398.32, "end": 403.2, "text": " So, I mean, Google has told us that there is a software update coming that should help" }, { "start": 403.2, "end": 404.2, "text": " with some things." }, { "start": 404.2, "end": 408.5, "text": " But, I mean, the camera software itself is, like, the standard camera software." }, { "start": 408.5, "end": 410.52, "text": " It's pretty lackluster." }, { "start": 410.52, "end": 413.76, "text": " It does take a while to focus." }, { "start": 413.76, "end": 417.03999999999996, "text": " And, you know, the pictures, I don't know, the low light performance is not what it should" }, { "start": 417.03999999999996, "end": 418.03999999999996, "text": " be." }, { "start": 418.03999999999996, "end": 419.03999999999996, "text": " No." }, { "start": 419.03999999999996, "end": 427.2, "text": " Well, there's a number of issues, but I think the best way to describe it is that I feel" }, { "start": 427.2, "end": 429.88, "text": " insecure when I'm shooting with a Nexus 5." }, { "start": 429.88, "end": 430.88, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 430.88, "end": 437.52, "text": " Which is to say I spent some time shooting Saturday morning, I think it was, around London." }, { "start": 437.52, "end": 441.8, "text": " And, you know, being a morning in London, you weren't getting a ton of light." }, { "start": 441.8, "end": 446.16, "text": " But what I ended up doing was every shot, every thing that I frame up, I would take," }, { "start": 446.16, "end": 447.88, "text": " like, four or five attempts at it." }, { "start": 447.88, "end": 451.12, "text": " Because the camera doesn't, like, once it focuses, it doesn't take that long to grab" }, { "start": 451.12, "end": 452.36, "text": " an extra few pictures." }, { "start": 452.36, "end": 457.48, "text": " But it's the fact that you feel the need to take a shot multiple times just in case something" }, { "start": 457.48, "end": 458.96000000000004, "text": " went awry." }, { "start": 458.96000000000004, "end": 459.96000000000004, "text": " And it often does." }, { "start": 459.96000000000004, "end": 460.96000000000004, "text": " And it's just..." }, { "start": 460.96000000000004, "end": 461.96000000000004, "text": " It's just weird." }, { "start": 461.96000000000004, "end": 462.96000000000004, "text": " I mean, there's a lack of contrast." }, { "start": 462.96000000000004, "end": 468.08000000000004, "text": " If you want to see the photo I just took on the original show, I just posted it to Google" }, { "start": 468.08000000000004, "end": 469.08000000000004, "text": " Plus." }, { "start": 469.08000000000004, "end": 470.08000000000004, "text": " That seemed appropriate." }, { "start": 470.08000000000004, "end": 471.08000000000004, "text": " Continue." }, { "start": 471.08, "end": 475.96, "text": " So you just interrupted me because you posted to Google Plus where pretty much nobody is..." }, { "start": 475.96, "end": 476.96, "text": " Oh, boy." }, { "start": 476.96, "end": 479.96, "text": " They're gonna burn you down, Vlad!" }, { "start": 479.96, "end": 486.84, "text": " I mean, we're gonna need to have a discussion about this whole overreaction." }, { "start": 486.84, "end": 487.84, "text": " We just did." }, { "start": 487.84, "end": 491.52, "text": " I said that I wasn't as enthusiastic as I could have been on the thing." }, { "start": 491.52, "end": 492.52, "text": " So what?" }, { "start": 492.52, "end": 494.56, "text": " But I mean, that's the point." }, { "start": 494.56, "end": 496, "text": " Like, I've seen comments..." }, { "start": 496, "end": 497, "text": " The regulator's coming in." }, { "start": 497, "end": 498, "text": " Oh, hey, Chris." }, { "start": 498, "end": 499, "text": " Hey, Chris." }, { "start": 499, "end": 501.84, "text": " Chris, we all have Nexus 5s." }, { "start": 501.84, "end": 502.84, "text": " Where's yours?" }, { "start": 502.84, "end": 503.84, "text": " Hello." }, { "start": 503.84, "end": 504.84, "text": " Can you hear me now?" }, { "start": 504.84, "end": 505.84, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 505.84, "end": 506.84, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 506.84, "end": 507.84, "text": " Fantastic." }, { "start": 507.84, "end": 508.84, "text": " I do not have a Nexus 5." }, { "start": 508.84, "end": 509.84, "text": " And I'm..." }, { "start": 509.84, "end": 510.84, "text": " But here's the thing." }, { "start": 510.84, "end": 511.84, "text": " I'm not really jealous." }, { "start": 511.84, "end": 512.84, "text": " You also do not own a lamp." }, { "start": 512.84, "end": 517.28, "text": " Look, do you want more light?" }, { "start": 517.28, "end": 519.28, "text": " Do you want to see the right side of my face?" }, { "start": 519.28, "end": 520.28, "text": " Is that what's going on here?" }, { "start": 520.28, "end": 521.28, "text": " I can..." }, { "start": 521.28, "end": 522.28, "text": " Hold the smartphone." }, { "start": 522.28, "end": 523.28, "text": " Axe, murder, and light." }, { "start": 523.28, "end": 524.28, "text": " Hold on." }, { "start": 524.28, "end": 525.28, "text": " Is that better?" }, { "start": 525.28, "end": 526.28, "text": " You're fine." }, { "start": 526.28, "end": 527.28, "text": " You're totally fine." }, { "start": 527.28, "end": 532.28, "text": " You're a handsome devil." }, { "start": 532.28, "end": 533.72, "text": " So I need to..." }, { "start": 533.72, "end": 534.72, "text": " I realize..." }, { "start": 534.72, "end": 540.86, "text": " I'm sorry to let all of our listeners and watchers in on this sausage-making that's" }, { "start": 540.86, "end": 544.68, "text": " going on right now, but I'm not recording this." }, { "start": 544.68, "end": 548.36, "text": " So I need to set up some recording." }, { "start": 548.36, "end": 549.36, "text": " One second." }, { "start": 549.36, "end": 551.76, "text": " The important things are here." }, { "start": 551.76, "end": 554.12, "text": " I apologize to everybody for this nonsense." }, { "start": 554.12, "end": 555.12, "text": " Okay, anyway." }, { "start": 555.12, "end": 556.12, "text": " I'm sorry." }, { "start": 556.12, "end": 558.32, "text": " You were talking about something very interesting when I came in." }, { "start": 558.32, "end": 562.88, "text": " In the meantime, in the meantime, let me just add a few technical notes on our bitching" }, { "start": 562.88, "end": 564.66, "text": " about the Nexus 5 camera." }, { "start": 564.66, "end": 569.24, "text": " So there's a lack of contrast, there's a lack of saturation, and biggest problem, there's" }, { "start": 569.24, "end": 570.24, "text": " a lack of sharpness." }, { "start": 570.24, "end": 573, "text": " Wait, is this on the Nexus 5 or the Nexus 4?" }, { "start": 573, "end": 575, "text": " Because you could be describing either." }, { "start": 575, "end": 576.48, "text": " Well, I mean..." }, { "start": 576.48, "end": 578.08, "text": " We already made that joke, Chris." }, { "start": 578.08, "end": 579.08, "text": " This is what I was saying." }, { "start": 579.08, "end": 582.44, "text": " We're approaching this from the wrong direction when we say the Nexus 5 camera is better than" }, { "start": 582.44, "end": 583.44, "text": " the Nexus 4 camera." }, { "start": 583.44, "end": 589, "text": " So that's like, eh, distinction between shades of really nasty gray." }, { "start": 589, "end": 590.24, "text": " That's not the thing that we should be talking about." }, { "start": 590.24, "end": 595, "text": " I think the Nexus 5 is a much more mature device than the Nexus 4, particularly because" }, { "start": 595, "end": 600.1600000000001, "text": " it has LTE and it has the best processor inside of it that you can get on the market at the" }, { "start": 600.1600000000001, "end": 601.1600000000001, "text": " moment." }, { "start": 601.1600000000001, "end": 606.08, "text": " So in terms of value for money, there's a thing I mentioned in one of the articles I" }, { "start": 606.08, "end": 607.6400000000001, "text": " wrote about it." }, { "start": 607.6400000000001, "end": 613, "text": " This thing here in the UK is competing against devices like the BlackBerry Q5, and it's only" }, { "start": 613, "end": 619.2, "text": " selling like 30 pounds more than the Samsung Galaxy Ace 3." }, { "start": 619.2, "end": 626.36, "text": " So I mean, it's like, do you go and get like Galaxy S3, an older generation Samsung Galaxy," }, { "start": 626.36, "end": 630.92, "text": " or do you get the latest Nexus with the LTE and the KitKat and all the other trinkets" }, { "start": 630.92, "end": 631.92, "text": " that come in?" }, { "start": 631.92, "end": 637.72, "text": " What's the difference between the Galaxy Ace 3 and the Galaxy S4 Mini?" }, { "start": 637.72, "end": 641, "text": " Who the hell knows?" }, { "start": 641, "end": 645.2, "text": " I don't, like as far as I'm concerned, we don't want to know the difference." }, { "start": 645.2, "end": 648.64, "text": " Those are just not things you should be looking at." }, { "start": 648.64, "end": 653.16, "text": " If you're looking at that sort of budget range, you might as well just start looking at Nokia's" }, { "start": 653.16, "end": 654.16, "text": " actual devices." }, { "start": 654.16, "end": 655.16, "text": " That's fair." }, { "start": 655.16, "end": 656.16, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 656.16, "end": 657.16, "text": " Because those are pretty." }, { "start": 657.16, "end": 659.68, "text": " No, I do want to praise the hardware." }, { "start": 659.68, "end": 663.48, "text": " The first impression that this hardware gives is kind of like, eh, it's fine." }, { "start": 663.48, "end": 666.36, "text": " And like, I don't know why the camera ring is so big and it's surrounded by this little" }, { "start": 666.36, "end": 667.36, "text": " like aluminum thing." }, { "start": 667.36, "end": 669.78, "text": " But it's a nice design touch." }, { "start": 669.78, "end": 673.68, "text": " The buttons are, I think it's too, it's just funny looking." }, { "start": 673.68, "end": 678.12, "text": " The buttons are ceramic, which I mean, Matthias Dorote talked to us a little bit about this," }, { "start": 678.12, "end": 680.3199999999999, "text": " but I do find them to be a little bit sharp." }, { "start": 680.3199999999999, "end": 684.72, "text": " But the more you live with it, the more it doesn't just feel like a generic big phone," }, { "start": 684.72, "end": 690.4, "text": " and the more it feels like, I don't know, it just, it gets out of the way." }, { "start": 690.4, "end": 699.28, "text": " It's very just simple and unassuming, and I mean, I think the word I'd use is handsome." }, { "start": 699.28, "end": 701.64, "text": " I would agree with you." }, { "start": 701.64, "end": 708.3199999999999, "text": " It's like a slightly less stunningly good looking Dawn Draper, you know?" }, { "start": 708.3199999999999, "end": 712.48, "text": " It's very nice and you can live with it." }, { "start": 712.48, "end": 713.48, "text": " It's understated." }, { "start": 713.48, "end": 715.6, "text": " Yeah, I mean, but it has character." }, { "start": 715.6, "end": 720.76, "text": " The thing to notice is like, compare it to the Nexus 7, and you can see like, Google's" }, { "start": 720.76, "end": 723.6, "text": " decided what it wants Nexus devices to look like." }, { "start": 723.6, "end": 729.6800000000001, "text": " Simple, black, unassuming, soft touch plastic back, and you know, the word Nexus in lower" }, { "start": 729.6800000000001, "end": 732.12, "text": " case letters on the back." }, { "start": 732.12, "end": 734.12, "text": " And this is white, but yeah." }, { "start": 734.12, "end": 735.64, "text": " Well, but who would buy a white one?" }, { "start": 735.64, "end": 736.64, "text": " I mean, seriously." }, { "start": 736.64, "end": 737.64, "text": " Me." }, { "start": 737.64, "end": 738.64, "text": " I bought one." }, { "start": 738.64, "end": 742.96, "text": " I bought a black one." }, { "start": 742.96, "end": 744.96, "text": " So here's what bothers me." }, { "start": 744.96, "end": 752.12, "text": " It's not, the Nexus 5 looks, again, I'm speaking as someone who has not touched this device," }, { "start": 752.12, "end": 758.36, "text": " but I think we can all agree that from the reviews that I've read and from the experiences" }, { "start": 758.36, "end": 763.88, "text": " that all of you have had, it's not the best camera on a phone, right?" }, { "start": 763.88, "end": 772.08, "text": " And so why can't we just have the Nexus experience in an uncompromisingly high-end experience?" }, { "start": 772.08, "end": 776.2, "text": " Like why is that too much to ask for?" }, { "start": 776.2, "end": 778.96, "text": " Is that the role that GPE is designed to fill?" }, { "start": 778.96, "end": 781, "text": " Or is there room for a high-end Nexus?" }, { "start": 781, "end": 784.96, "text": " Well, I mean, that's the thing." }, { "start": 784.96, "end": 789.76, "text": " One of the things that defines what a Nexus is these days is price." }, { "start": 789.76, "end": 797.56, "text": " And if you're going to sell a phone for $350 that has got some top-end specs, I mean," }, { "start": 797.56, "end": 798.56, "text": " the screen is great." }, { "start": 798.56, "end": 799.56, "text": " It's super light." }, { "start": 799.56, "end": 803.08, "text": " It's lighter than the Nexus 4, even though it has a bigger screen." }, { "start": 803.08, "end": 808.64, "text": " You know, everything about the hardware quality and feel of this phone is really good." }, { "start": 808.64, "end": 814.3199999999999, "text": " It's not as primo as an HTC One, but it's in the ballpark." }, { "start": 814.3199999999999, "end": 818.3199999999999, "text": " If you're going to get a phone to that price and hitting that price is super important" }, { "start": 818.3199999999999, "end": 821.36, "text": " to you, at some point something has to give." }, { "start": 821.36, "end": 825.24, "text": " And it looks like with the Nexus 5, it was probably the camera." }, { "start": 825.24, "end": 830.84, "text": " But the alternative, and it's one that both myself and Dan have lusted after, was something" }, { "start": 830.84, "end": 832.02, "text": " like a Nexus Pro." }, { "start": 832.02, "end": 836.88, "text": " So put an extra $200 on this thing's price, then you're actually going to match the" }, { "start": 836.88, "end": 841.2, "text": " iPhone 5C price unlocked and stick a great camera on it and a great battery." }, { "start": 841.2, "end": 843.72, "text": " And then everybody is just going to go nuts." }, { "start": 843.72, "end": 849.04, "text": " But here's my alternative theory to that, which is that Google actively wants to avoid" }, { "start": 849.04, "end": 854.72, "text": " having the label of being the absolute best Android phone, because that would be a problem" }, { "start": 854.72, "end": 859.52, "text": " for Google insofar as Google's relationship with OEMs like Samsung, LG, et cetera." }, { "start": 859.52, "end": 860.68, "text": " I completely disagree." }, { "start": 860.68, "end": 864.8, "text": " I think we have this discussion with every single Nexus phone that comes out." }, { "start": 864.8, "end": 871.12, "text": " And I don't think Google sells enough of them to matter to Samsung or HTC." }, { "start": 871.12, "end": 873.8399999999999, "text": " Yet, it doesn't sell that many yet." }, { "start": 873.8399999999999, "end": 877.52, "text": " I think that Google wants that to change with the Nexus 5, I really do." }, { "start": 877.52, "end": 880.3599999999999, "text": " I think they want to sell a million of these things, 10 million of these things." }, { "start": 880.3599999999999, "end": 881.3599999999999, "text": " I think they want to." }, { "start": 881.3599999999999, "end": 884.9599999999999, "text": " I mean, at least here in the US, they're not going to do that if the Nexus 5 is not" }, { "start": 884.9599999999999, "end": 886.24, "text": " in carrier stores." }, { "start": 886.24, "end": 889.76, "text": " I mean, nowadays, I guess because now it's with Sprint, you'll be able to get it for" }, { "start": 889.76, "end": 891.4799999999999, "text": " $150 with a contract." }, { "start": 891.4799999999999, "end": 894.68, "text": " If it's not in T-Mobile stores, I'm betting you money it will be." }, { "start": 894.68, "end": 898.56, "text": " It might be on two mobile stores, but it's not on AT&T or Verizon." }, { "start": 898.56, "end": 904.04, "text": " And let's be real, that's where it needs to be to get those 10 million figures of sales." }, { "start": 904.04, "end": 908.4799999999999, "text": " And it needs to be available on a contract price for US consumers that are going to walk" }, { "start": 908.4799999999999, "end": 910.4799999999999, "text": " into a store and be like, I want a new phone." }, { "start": 910.4799999999999, "end": 917.04, "text": " There's an iPhone 5S for $199 and a GS4 for $199, et cetera, et cetera." }, { "start": 917.04, "end": 919.3199999999999, "text": " That's where you're going to get those sales figures from." }, { "start": 919.3199999999999, "end": 923.28, "text": " Otherwise, it will be permanently a niche device, especially if you have to order it" }, { "start": 923.28, "end": 926, "text": " online from Google at an unlocked price." }, { "start": 926, "end": 927, "text": " Yeah, but then…" }, { "start": 927, "end": 929, "text": " No, they're going to sell it at Best Buys." }, { "start": 929, "end": 930.4, "text": " They're going to sell it at Best Buys." }, { "start": 930.4, "end": 932.0799999999999, "text": " They're going to have it at other retailers." }, { "start": 932.0799999999999, "end": 935.4399999999999, "text": " And imagine if you wanted to break that dynamic, how would you do it?" }, { "start": 935.4399999999999, "end": 940.52, "text": " Well, you'd try and take it head on and beat the carriers at their own game, and that" }, { "start": 940.52, "end": 943.64, "text": " was the Nexus 1, and that strategy did not work out very well." }, { "start": 943.64, "end": 948.04, "text": " And so their new strategy is just sell the thing for as cheaply as possible." }, { "start": 948.04, "end": 949.04, "text": " And I mean, who knows?" }, { "start": 949.04, "end": 952.4, "text": " I don't know that they're actually going to succeed, but I think that with this phone" }, { "start": 952.4, "end": 954.52, "text": " in particular, they want to succeed." }, { "start": 954.52, "end": 960.36, "text": " But Dan, what I was going to say is if you make that imaginary Nexus Pro, if you make" }, { "start": 960.36, "end": 964.72, "text": " that awesome phone, it doesn't matter how niche the distribution is." }, { "start": 964.72, "end": 968.28, "text": " All of us are going to cry to the high heavens about its awesomeness." }, { "start": 968.28, "end": 970.9, "text": " People are going to find out what a mouthful spread." }, { "start": 970.9, "end": 973.84, "text": " People will make the effort to go and get the best, absolute Android phone." }, { "start": 973.84, "end": 974.84, "text": " But let me make the point, man." }, { "start": 974.84, "end": 978.28, "text": " I mean, I need like more than 20 seconds here, okay?" }, { "start": 978.28, "end": 979.28, "text": " Please." }, { "start": 979.28, "end": 980.96, "text": " D-Day's interrupted me enough." }, { "start": 980.96, "end": 984.8000000000001, "text": " I'm like raging at you now, but Dieter is the one that keeps jumping in." }, { "start": 984.8000000000001, "end": 992.12, "text": " All I'm saying here is at the moment, the LG G2 and the Nexus 5 are very differentiated" }, { "start": 992.12, "end": 993.12, "text": " devices." }, { "start": 993.12, "end": 996.4000000000001, "text": " And as far as I'm concerned, I can see good reason to spend the extra money to get the" }, { "start": 996.4000000000001, "end": 1002.94, "text": " LG G2 because of its better camera, because of its better battery, and I can see good" }, { "start": 1002.94, "end": 1004.9000000000001, "text": " reason why we want to get the Nexus 5." }, { "start": 1004.9000000000001, "end": 1007.84, "text": " So for LG, both of these phones are going to sell." }, { "start": 1007.84, "end": 1009.86, "text": " It has two strong phones." }, { "start": 1009.86, "end": 1016.76, "text": " If Google went and took the LG G2 spec for spec, priced it at the lowest possible price," }, { "start": 1016.76, "end": 1022.48, "text": " which Google seems to be keen to do with every Nexus device, try to break even, Google would" }, { "start": 1022.48, "end": 1024.76, "text": " literally be screwing with LG's business model." }, { "start": 1024.76, "end": 1026.84, "text": " Whereas the LG right now is thriving." }, { "start": 1026.84, "end": 1032.48, "text": " It's getting all the benefits of doing a Nexus device or brands equity that you get out of" }, { "start": 1032.48, "end": 1033.48, "text": " that." }, { "start": 1033.48, "end": 1036.08, "text": " And it has differentiation for its high end." }, { "start": 1036.08, "end": 1039.3600000000001, "text": " I just don't think Google really cares about the absolute high end." }, { "start": 1039.36, "end": 1041.12, "text": " They can leave that to the companies." }, { "start": 1041.12, "end": 1046.24, "text": " It just wants a baseline of a really good device at the lowest possible price." }, { "start": 1046.24, "end": 1048.9599999999998, "text": " I'm done." }, { "start": 1048.9599999999998, "end": 1057.32, "text": " I wasn't going to talk to you." }, { "start": 1057.32, "end": 1061.8799999999999, "text": " So battery life." }, { "start": 1061.8799999999999, "end": 1066.9599999999998, "text": " We talked about it in the review, ran tests, everybody's got a bunch of them, we've all" }, { "start": 1066.9599999999998, "end": 1069.04, "text": " been trying it." }, { "start": 1069.04, "end": 1071.48, "text": " I think what Josh said in the review is exactly right." }, { "start": 1071.48, "end": 1073.6399999999999, "text": " It is wildly inconsistent." }, { "start": 1073.6399999999999, "end": 1081.84, "text": " I will have it one day crap out after seven hours and then the next day it goes for 12" }, { "start": 1081.84, "end": 1084.1599999999999, "text": " and then the next day it's back down to eight." }, { "start": 1084.1599999999999, "end": 1087.8, "text": " And I'm just sort of waiting to see where it's going to level out at." }, { "start": 1087.8, "end": 1093, "text": " And part of that is heavy use thing that you do, but I've been using this thing for a" }, { "start": 1093, "end": 1098.44, "text": " while now, just Thursday, and I still have no idea where the battery is going to be at" }, { "start": 1098.44, "end": 1103.88, "text": " any point in the day, like ever." }, { "start": 1103.88, "end": 1108.1200000000001, "text": " So I guess I had it charging earlier today." }, { "start": 1108.1200000000001, "end": 1113.6000000000001, "text": " I will say, and I've made this point before, but I think for me anyway, I certainly found" }, { "start": 1113.6000000000001, "end": 1117.44, "text": " this to be the case with the Nexus 4 and the Lumia 920, when you have a device that has" }, { "start": 1117.44, "end": 1121.3600000000001, "text": " wireless charging, you tend to top it off more than if you didn't." }, { "start": 1121.3600000000001, "end": 1125.1200000000001, "text": " So I have a cheap, even though I don't have any cheap phones right now, I have a cheap" }, { "start": 1125.12, "end": 1130.1599999999999, "text": " pad on my desk, I have a cheap pad in my bedroom, I have a cheap pad next to my couch, and you" }, { "start": 1130.1599999999999, "end": 1134.28, "text": " just naturally set the phone there and then over the course of the day it ends up being" }, { "start": 1134.28, "end": 1135.28, "text": " close to 100%." }, { "start": 1135.28, "end": 1139.6, "text": " Chris has more cheap pads than lights, I think we've established that." }, { "start": 1139.6, "end": 1144.08, "text": " Chris's condo is a store, a sales store for cheap pads." }, { "start": 1144.08, "end": 1148.8799999999999, "text": " I'm going to get cancer any second from all this constant power I'm being radiated" }, { "start": 1148.8799999999999, "end": 1149.8799999999999, "text": " with." }, { "start": 1149.88, "end": 1155.72, "text": " So yeah, I have a cheap pad and it does charge the Nexus 5, but it also seems to get it really" }, { "start": 1155.72, "end": 1160.1200000000001, "text": " hot if I don't place it right, and so I'm a little bit nervous about it." }, { "start": 1160.1200000000001, "end": 1163.8000000000002, "text": " So I'm waiting for the official charger, which will have the magnets to align it, because" }, { "start": 1163.8000000000002, "end": 1169.6000000000001, "text": " it's got magnets, because this thing is perfectly palm-free, I'm telling you right now." }, { "start": 1169.6000000000001, "end": 1172.8400000000001, "text": " I noticed today when I was charging it over USB that it was getting considerably warm" }, { "start": 1172.8400000000001, "end": 1173.8400000000001, "text": " while I was charging." }, { "start": 1173.8400000000001, "end": 1176.48, "text": " So, I mean, I don't know." }, { "start": 1176.48, "end": 1180.28, "text": " Wasn't there a whole story about...has Google started shipping that new charging pad?" }, { "start": 1180.28, "end": 1183.08, "text": " No, not yet." }, { "start": 1183.08, "end": 1187.84, "text": " Wasn't there a whole story about how Qualcomm, there's a new, like there's some crazy new" }, { "start": 1187.84, "end": 1192.76, "text": " Qualcomm technology in the Nexus 5 to reduce heat output from the radios?" }, { "start": 1192.76, "end": 1197.9, "text": " Yeah, sorry, I was just playing, seeing if we could turn on Q&A, but we can't." }, { "start": 1197.9, "end": 1201.52, "text": " But if you have Q's about the Nexus 5, you should tweet at us." }, { "start": 1201.52, "end": 1204.64, "text": " I have Q's, I haven't used a Nexus 5." }, { "start": 1204.64, "end": 1206.8400000000001, "text": " What do you want to know?" }, { "start": 1206.8400000000001, "end": 1208.0800000000002, "text": " Should I buy one?" }, { "start": 1208.0800000000002, "end": 1209.8400000000001, "text": " Dude, it's $349." }, { "start": 1209.8400000000001, "end": 1215.68, "text": " I'm Lucas, you're an iOS fanboy, so." }, { "start": 1215.68, "end": 1218.76, "text": " Between this and an HTC One, get the Nexus 5." }, { "start": 1218.76, "end": 1225.5200000000002, "text": " Because the HTC One's camera is a beautiful experiment, but it's no great shakes, and" }, { "start": 1225.5200000000002, "end": 1227.44, "text": " you're not losing out that much here." }, { "start": 1227.44, "end": 1232.5600000000002, "text": " And the HTC One's battery is, I think, a little bit better than the Nexus 5, but not" }, { "start": 1232.56, "end": 1238.76, "text": " enough to be appreciable, and this feels just as nice in the hand." }, { "start": 1238.76, "end": 1245, "text": " I will say that this, barring a major price reduction on the GPE models, it completely" }, { "start": 1245, "end": 1247.44, "text": " obviates them." }, { "start": 1247.44, "end": 1254.32, "text": " Why would anyone buy a GPE GS4 or One when you have this for $300 less?" }, { "start": 1254.32, "end": 1255.32, "text": " It's insane." }, { "start": 1255.32, "end": 1259.9199999999998, "text": " Yeah, if the price was like a $100 difference, I could justify spending a little more to" }, { "start": 1259.92, "end": 1265.04, "text": " get the One for the nicer build quality and the added features, but at $300, it's just" }, { "start": 1265.04, "end": 1268.96, "text": " completely neutered the value factor." }, { "start": 1268.96, "end": 1270.52, "text": " Yeah, it's a non-starter, yeah." }, { "start": 1270.52, "end": 1273.5600000000002, "text": " Yeah, but those are also aging models." }, { "start": 1273.5600000000002, "end": 1278.16, "text": " You have to anticipate that come January, come CES, we're gonna have a lot more alluring" }, { "start": 1278.16, "end": 1279.46, "text": " devices." }, { "start": 1279.46, "end": 1284.04, "text": " We live in a world where you just called five-month-old devices aging." }, { "start": 1284.04, "end": 1287.2, "text": " Yeah, these are from, what, June?" }, { "start": 1287.2, "end": 1290.04, "text": " I think they hit in June, right, the Google editions?" }, { "start": 1290.04, "end": 1291.04, "text": " Yeah, well." }, { "start": 1291.04, "end": 1293.6000000000001, "text": " That's software, though, I'm talking about." }, { "start": 1293.6000000000001, "end": 1299.4, "text": " Yeah, even the branded models, though, aren't that much older." }, { "start": 1299.4, "end": 1300.4, "text": " Maybe April." }, { "start": 1300.4, "end": 1304.44, "text": " Yeah, so anyway, I just wanna put things in perspective for everybody here." }, { "start": 1304.44, "end": 1307.04, "text": " What else do you wanna know?" }, { "start": 1307.04, "end": 1310.64, "text": " Like we didn't know that we're thicker when every single month." }, { "start": 1310.64, "end": 1312.88, "text": " So we haven't really talked about KitKat, so." }, { "start": 1312.88, "end": 1313.88, "text": " Not at all." }, { "start": 1313.88, "end": 1317.3200000000002, "text": " I was trying to do Nexus 5 and then KitKat." }, { "start": 1317.3200000000002, "end": 1323.8200000000002, "text": " So I put up a report today about KitKat after having talked to a bunch of Android guys." }, { "start": 1323.8200000000002, "end": 1329.3200000000002, "text": " So I have a theory of there's KitKat and then there's KitKat on the Nexus 5, which" }, { "start": 1329.3200000000002, "end": 1335.68, "text": " are two slightly different things, but very different things." }, { "start": 1335.68, "end": 1341.16, "text": " So what's interesting is as of right now, and nobody believes me about this for some" }, { "start": 1341.16, "end": 1351.72, "text": " reason, including Dan, dude, the Nexus 5 launcher is only available on the Nexus 5 right now." }, { "start": 1351.72, "end": 1357.2, "text": " And Google hasn't said and hasn't, I don't think, has decided if they want to put it" }, { "start": 1357.2, "end": 1361.76, "text": " on anything else, including the Nexus 4 or Google Play edition devices." }, { "start": 1361.76, "end": 1366.0400000000002, "text": " They want to see how people like it." }, { "start": 1366.0400000000002, "end": 1370.28, "text": " That just sounds so insane to me, that the fact that it's like, would be on the Nexus" }, { "start": 1370.28, "end": 1377.6399999999999, "text": " 5 and not on the Nexus 4 or the Nexus 7 or any other Nexus device for that matter." }, { "start": 1377.6399999999999, "end": 1380.72, "text": " It's hard for me to wrap my head around it." }, { "start": 1380.72, "end": 1384.2, "text": " That's what they told you and I don't disbelieve that that's what they told you" }, { "start": 1384.2, "end": 1385.2, "text": " and everything." }, { "start": 1385.2, "end": 1389.32, "text": " I just feel like it's one of those things that in a couple weeks when the Nexus 4's" }, { "start": 1389.32, "end": 1393.6, "text": " 4.4 update arrives, it's just going to be there." }, { "start": 1393.6, "end": 1396.24, "text": " I see this going one of a few ways." }, { "start": 1396.24, "end": 1399.68, "text": " If they do in fact keep it exclusive to the Nexus 5, and even if they put it on the Nexus" }, { "start": 1399.68, "end": 1405.3600000000001, "text": " 4, I mean the thing to realize is that the Nexus is no longer about being the premier" }, { "start": 1405.3600000000001, "end": 1406.76, "text": " just Android device." }, { "start": 1406.76, "end": 1409.6000000000001, "text": " It's now like a Google device." }, { "start": 1409.6000000000001, "end": 1415.8, "text": " Google now is right on the home screen and you can search Google from the phone dialer" }, { "start": 1415.8, "end": 1423.88, "text": " and your default, no stop, oh my god, I didn't say okay, whatever, search Google, whatever." }, { "start": 1423.88, "end": 1428.88, "text": " Sorry, it's just responding to me automatically, the sound of my voice in the launcher." }, { "start": 1428.88, "end": 1434.48, "text": " Hangouts is a default messaging app, etc." }, { "start": 1434.48, "end": 1441.7600000000002, "text": " If it goes that way, then what we're looking at here is there's Samsung's version of" }, { "start": 1441.7600000000002, "end": 1446.8000000000002, "text": " Android and there's HTC's version of Android and now there's Google's version of Android," }, { "start": 1446.8000000000002, "end": 1450.0800000000002, "text": " which is kind of crazy." }, { "start": 1450.0800000000002, "end": 1454.5600000000002, "text": " The thing that makes me believe that they might even consider putting this thing into" }, { "start": 1454.56, "end": 1460.52, "text": " the Google Play Store, this launcher available for any device, is if you go into settings," }, { "start": 1460.52, "end": 1465.76, "text": " there's a top level setting for home and you tap that and that is how you choose your" }, { "start": 1465.76, "end": 1466.76, "text": " launcher." }, { "start": 1466.76, "end": 1470.9199999999998, "text": " You don't have to go into app settings anymore and mess with this garbage of clearing defaults" }, { "start": 1470.9199999999998, "end": 1472.1599999999999, "text": " for launcher app." }, { "start": 1472.1599999999999, "end": 1475.28, "text": " It's just right there and you can switch between them very easily." }, { "start": 1475.28, "end": 1476.28, "text": " This just works." }, { "start": 1476.28, "end": 1479.84, "text": " Apex didn't need to update itself to make this happen." }, { "start": 1479.84, "end": 1481.32, "text": " Google just figured it out." }, { "start": 1481.32, "end": 1485.08, "text": " Same thing with their cloud storage picker, Dropbox was just in there, which is kind of" }, { "start": 1485.08, "end": 1486.08, "text": " amazing." }, { "start": 1486.08, "end": 1490.8, "text": " Anyway, if they decide not only do they want to put it on Nexus devices, but they want" }, { "start": 1490.8, "end": 1495.76, "text": " to just put it on Google Play like they did with their keyboard, it would be a huge screw" }, { "start": 1495.76, "end": 1502.36, "text": " you to Samsung and HTC and LG and everybody else because there is now at the very first" }, { "start": 1502.36, "end": 1507.4399999999998, "text": " setting after your radios is switching your home screen to something else." }, { "start": 1507.4399999999998, "end": 1510.52, "text": " It's like, sorry Samsung, nobody wants your skin." }, { "start": 1510.52, "end": 1512, "text": " We're going to give them ours." }, { "start": 1512, "end": 1513, "text": " That would be crazy." }, { "start": 1513, "end": 1514, "text": " Sorry BlinkFeed." }, { "start": 1514, "end": 1515, "text": " Right?" }, { "start": 1515, "end": 1520.68, "text": " This is like the ultimate screw you because HTC's BlinkFeed is the left most screen and" }, { "start": 1520.68, "end": 1522.68, "text": " now it's Google Now." }, { "start": 1522.68, "end": 1524.6399999999999, "text": " Yeah, it's really interesting." }, { "start": 1524.6399999999999, "end": 1529.08, "text": " HTC has been very aggressive in saying that they will be deploying 4.4 to its devices." }, { "start": 1529.08, "end": 1532.6, "text": " I think even all the US carrier devices within 90 days." }, { "start": 1532.6, "end": 1536.32, "text": " So it will be really interesting to see how all of this Google Now integration stuff works" }, { "start": 1536.32, "end": 1537.32, "text": " with HTC's launcher." }, { "start": 1537.32, "end": 1542.2, "text": " But I just wanted to say that the reason that I think that this, Google has literally no" }, { "start": 1542.2, "end": 1548.08, "text": " reason to keep this exclusive to the Nexus 5, simply because you can turn off the Google" }, { "start": 1548.08, "end": 1550.76, "text": " Now integration in the launcher." }, { "start": 1550.76, "end": 1554.12, "text": " If you turn off Google Now, it's no longer your left most home screen." }, { "start": 1554.12, "end": 1558.3999999999999, "text": " You've got a standard type of home screen that you know, Android has had for however" }, { "start": 1558.3999999999999, "end": 1559.3999999999999, "text": " many years." }, { "start": 1559.3999999999999, "end": 1562.1599999999999, "text": " So if they're concerned that people might not like it, there's always the option that" }, { "start": 1562.1599999999999, "end": 1563.1599999999999, "text": " you can just turn it off." }, { "start": 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"text": " Yes, and I would like to point out that knock on is exponentially more useful than chat" }, { "start": 1623.36, "end": 1624.36, "text": " on." }, { "start": 1624.36, "end": 1630.76, "text": " I will say that when LG launches its own messaging service, which by all accounts it probably" }, { "start": 1630.76, "end": 1634.04, "text": " will, it's going to be called like talk around or something." }, { "start": 1634.04, "end": 1635.84, "text": " Samsung has launched its own messaging service." }, { "start": 1635.84, "end": 1638.12, "text": " Yeah, LG copies it." }, { "start": 1638.12, "end": 1642.1999999999998, "text": " It's going to run Samsung's name through a translator and then back again and it's" }, { "start": 1642.1999999999998, "end": 1645.4399999999998, "text": " going to be like talk around." }, { "start": 1645.4399999999998, "end": 1653.7199999999998, "text": " Okay, so that whole like Android politics aside, like KitKat's really nice." }, { "start": 1653.72, "end": 1655.32, "text": " They got rid of almost all the Tron." }, { "start": 1655.32, "end": 1659.56, "text": " There's still some blue here and there if you go hunting for it." }, { "start": 1659.56, "end": 1664.08, "text": " Like the switches are blue and then like not the main power down menu but the last like" }, { "start": 1664.08, "end": 1667.84, "text": " the we're going to turn it off now pop up is blue." }, { "start": 1667.84, "end": 1669.48, "text": " But other than that, everything is white." }, { "start": 1669.48, "end": 1672.64, "text": " When you scroll and you hit the end of a scroll thing, it's white." }, { "start": 1672.64, "end": 1675.1200000000001, "text": " It's wicked fast on this phone." }, { "start": 1675.1200000000001, "end": 1678.28, "text": " They've added a whole bunch of just like plumbing features." }, { "start": 1678.28, "end": 1683.44, "text": " They added the file picker which I think is still like one of Android's key advantages." }, { "start": 1683.44, "end": 1687.4, "text": " It makes it a real computer and you can actually attach stuff to stuff and not have to worry" }, { "start": 1687.4, "end": 1690.3200000000002, "text": " about will your phone let you do that." }, { "start": 1690.3200000000002, "end": 1696.56, "text": " It's really amusing to me how many apps there are on iOS where you have to like, there's" }, { "start": 1696.56, "end": 1701.7, "text": " like a file attach feature and it just like it takes you to the photo roll and it's like" }, { "start": 1701.7, "end": 1702.7, "text": " what?" }, { "start": 1702.7, "end": 1705.6000000000001, "text": " That's not what I mean by attach." }, { "start": 1705.6000000000001, "end": 1710.96, "text": " Like you can't make the logical jump from I want to attach something to this to oh," }, { "start": 1710.96, "end": 1716.24, "text": " that must mean you want to attach a picture because there is no other kind of data." }, { "start": 1716.24, "end": 1718.4, "text": " And the dialer is awesome." }, { "start": 1718.4, "end": 1721.38, "text": " I mean the search Google stuff is fine, it works." }, { "start": 1721.38, "end": 1727.52, "text": " But the smartly putting your most contacted contacts up there, like so far it's been" }, { "start": 1727.52, "end": 1730.48, "text": " great figuring out who I actually want on it." }, { "start": 1730.48, "end": 1737.24, "text": " And my favorite feature though is they finally, finally added smart dialing to the dial pad" }, { "start": 1737.24, "end": 1744.48, "text": " in 4.9 so you can just type somebody's like for Dan it would be 3, 2, 6, there you are." }, { "start": 1744.48, "end": 1747.36, "text": " So I'd hate to burst your bubble on this but they added that in 4.3." }, { "start": 1747.36, "end": 1748.36, "text": " No they didn't." }, { "start": 1748.36, "end": 1749.36, "text": " Yeah they did." }, { "start": 1749.36, "end": 1750.36, "text": " Really?" }, { "start": 1750.36, "end": 1751.36, "text": " Dial pad auto complete." }, { "start": 1751.36, "end": 1756.96, "text": " But for some reason in 4.3 it was not enabled by default for some inane reason." }, { "start": 1756.96, "end": 1761.1200000000001, "text": " You had to go into dialer settings and enable dial pad auto complete." }, { "start": 1761.1200000000001, "end": 1764.36, "text": " But now I feel like a maroon, thanks a lot." }, { "start": 1764.36, "end": 1772.4399999999998, "text": " This actually raises a good point here which is that I've jumped into 4.4 with the Nexus" }, { "start": 1772.4399999999998, "end": 1775.28, "text": " 5 and just been impressed by so many things." }, { "start": 1775.28, "end": 1780.36, "text": " But in writing up our notes for the review for KitKat, what I've noticed and what you" }, { "start": 1780.36, "end": 1785.04, "text": " guys pointed out to me is that quite a few of the features that impressed me now have" }, { "start": 1785.04, "end": 1788.12, "text": " been implemented in like 4.2 and 4.3." }, { 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"text": " They're just all of these subtle little things which are just automated and done for you" }, { "start": 1921.08, "end": 1924.92, "text": " and just make the process of using the phone that much more straightforward." }, { "start": 1924.92, "end": 1926.8, "text": " This is what I like." }, { "start": 1926.8, "end": 1930.22, "text": " I really feel like the whole experience has been streamlined." }, { "start": 1930.22, "end": 1938.2, "text": " My favorite highlight actually is when I go to set an alarm and this is just beautiful" }, { "start": 1938.2, "end": 1944.72, "text": " circular UI to pick the time, the hour and the minutes and it's functionally not any" }, { "start": 1944.72, "end": 1949.98, "text": " more useful than all the other interfaces but it just makes me happy to do it." }, { "start": 1949.98, "end": 1955.48, "text": " My favorite alarm feature is like a half hour before an alarm is going to go off, some three" }, { "start": 1955.48, "end": 1959.32, "text": " or four hours before I don't know what it is, it actually pops down a notification for" }, { "start": 1959.32, "end": 1963.3600000000001, "text": " you saying that your alarm is going to go off in 10 minutes or five minutes or a half" }, { "start": 1963.3600000000001, "end": 1967.16, "text": " hour or whatever and then you can dismiss it right from there like no, I'm awake, I" }, { "start": 1967.16, "end": 1969.2, "text": " don't need this alarm now and get rid of it." }, { "start": 1969.2, "end": 1970.2, "text": " It's amazing, it's great." }, { "start": 1970.2, "end": 1974.32, "text": " I use it all the time because apparently now I wake up at 4.30 in the morning every day." }, { "start": 1974.32, "end": 1981.4, "text": " I'll tell you what's a hot mess though is hangouts." }, { "start": 1981.4, "end": 1987.0400000000002, "text": " I would come in but I don't actually hang out with anybody other than you guys." }, { "start": 1987.0400000000002, "end": 1991.3200000000002, "text": " So 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mean if you're Google you can't make it work like iMessage and just have things" }, { "start": 2031.34, "end": 2035.6, "text": " switch over to iMessage because you don't know what the recipient, what phone they're" }, { "start": 2035.6, "end": 2038.7, "text": " using, you don't know where hangouts is installed, whatever." }, { "start": 2038.7, "end": 2044.56, "text": " But yeah, it's not that hard to just have a single conversation per person and have" }, { "start": 2044.56, "end": 2045.56, "text": " multiple accounts." }, { "start": 2045.56, "end": 2051.08, "text": " I'd much rather think about conversations per person and switch between my two Google" }, { "start": 2051.08, "end": 2058.76, "text": " accounts or SMS than switch to one of two Google accounts and then look for the SMS" }, { "start": 2058.76, "end": 2060.68, "text": " conversation or the hangout conversation." }, { "start": 2060.68, "end": 2065.9, "text": " I know that there's some level of confusion by threading everything but it's way better" }, { "start": 2065.9, "end": 2069.84, "text": " than just sticking stuff all over the place." }, { "start": 2069.84, "end": 2070.84, "text": " Like I need to remember that." }, { "start": 2070.84, "end": 2074.12, "text": " Yeah, right, I mean you said that." }, { "start": 2074.12, "end": 2075.7200000000003, "text": " LevelS 1.0 actually did that." }, { "start": 2075.7200000000003, "end": 2081.08, "text": " It threaded Google Talk messages in with SMS and that's exactly what hangouts is supposed" }, { "start": 2081.08, "end": 2083.4, "text": " to do and later on other services as well." }, { "start": 2083.4, "end": 2087.84, "text": " But you know, that was 2009, come on." }, { "start": 2087.84, "end": 2091.2400000000002, "text": " Yeah but I mean Blackberry has been doing that for a long time too." }, { "start": 2091.2400000000002, "end": 2092.2400000000002, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2092.24, "end": 2097, "text": " I'm just saying there's lots of examples of people that have solved this problem and" }, { "start": 2097, "end": 2101.2999999999997, "text": " not that their solutions were perfect but they are better than the solution that hangouts" }, { "start": 2101.2999999999997, "end": 2103.08, "text": " is going with right now." }, { "start": 2103.08, "end": 2108.72, "text": " Pretty much the only benefit is now I think you mentioned this in either your review of" }, { "start": 2108.72, "end": 2112.8799999999997, "text": " KitKat or another report on KitKatEaters that now I only have one icon on my home screen" }, { "start": 2112.8799999999997, "end": 2114.6, "text": " as opposed to two or three." }, { "start": 2114.6, "end": 2119.8399999999997, "text": " Right, yeah, so they had – this was Roshi's point, Roshi Lockheimer's point." }, { "start": 2119.84, "end": 2126.84, "text": " They had Google Plus Messenger and Google Talk and SMS and those three are now a single" }, { "start": 2126.84, "end": 2128.88, "text": " icon so that's nice." }, { "start": 2128.88, "end": 2134.1600000000003, "text": " Actually there's something – somebody was asking on Twitter, Armando Rodriguez was" }, { "start": 2134.1600000000003, "end": 2136.2400000000002, "text": " asking how do you know when you have a data connection?" }, { "start": 2136.2400000000002, "end": 2141.2000000000003, "text": " So now that all the icons are white, the status bar icon, the signal strength icons are always" }, { "start": 2141.2000000000003, "end": 2145.28, "text": " white and it used to be that like those would be gray and then they would turn blue when" }, { "start": 2145.28, "end": 2148.6000000000004, "text": " they knew that they had a solid connection to Google and then you also got little up" }, { "start": 2148.6, "end": 2153.36, "text": " down arrows inside the little status bars to tell you what your data was doing, if it" }, { "start": 2153.36, "end": 2155.96, "text": " was downloading a bunch of data or uploading a bunch of data." }, { "start": 2155.96, "end": 2157.92, "text": " And so far as I can tell, all that's gone." }, { "start": 2157.92, "end": 2162.2799999999997, "text": " So you just have to trust that you've got a solid and good internet connection." }, { "start": 2162.2799999999997, "end": 2167.72, "text": " I guess I haven't been on a captive portal since I started using this so maybe it gives" }, { "start": 2167.72, "end": 2171.4, "text": " you some indication if it looks like you've got an internet connection but you don't." }, { "start": 2171.4, "end": 2178.2799999999997, "text": " But that's sort of like instant quick, I know that my data connection is solid indicator" }, { "start": 2178.28, "end": 2180.2000000000003, "text": " in the status bar, you've lost that." }, { "start": 2180.2000000000003, "end": 2184.6400000000003, "text": " But you do get an indication that's better about when GPS is active, that's over on" }, { "start": 2184.6400000000003, "end": 2191.28, "text": " the right now and there's a location shortcut that shows you the apps that have most recently" }, { "start": 2191.28, "end": 2195.36, "text": " pinged your location and like how much battery they're using." }, { "start": 2195.36, "end": 2196.36, "text": " So they've fixed that." }, { "start": 2196.36, "end": 2200.1600000000003, "text": " Which is similar to – yeah, that's similar to what iOS does as far as the data it gives" }, { "start": 2200.1600000000003, "end": 2201.8, "text": " you for recent location." }, { "start": 2201.8, "end": 2207, "text": " I think that's great and you can now choose different modes of location services." }, { "start": 2207, "end": 2210.56, "text": " You can choose the high accuracy which Google tells you will use the most battery life." }, { "start": 2210.56, "end": 2215.72, "text": " You can turn a battery saving mode on which will drop GPS and only use Wi-Fi triangulation" }, { "start": 2215.72, "end": 2217.36, "text": " and cellular triangulation." }, { "start": 2217.36, "end": 2222.64, "text": " So that's a much more user friendly way to manage it and hopefully save some battery" }, { "start": 2222.64, "end": 2225.36, "text": " life." }, { "start": 2225.36, "end": 2232.52, "text": " So actually just about the status bar, the thing, the signal bars that used to turn blue," }, { "start": 2232.52, "end": 2238.04, "text": " they're turning white and they're kind of – I don't see an issue with distinguishing" }, { "start": 2238.04, "end": 2240.7599999999998, "text": " when you have a good signal from a bad signal." }, { "start": 2240.7599999999998, "end": 2244, "text": " There's a good enough contrast between the white and the dark gray there." }, { "start": 2244, "end": 2247.96, "text": " But yeah, I'm not noticing like you're saying the up and down vertical bars when" }, { "start": 2247.96, "end": 2253.24, "text": " you're having data transfers which were handy from the previous interfaces." }, { "start": 2253.24, "end": 2255.84, "text": " But there's something else I wanted to note on the next slide which is –" }, { "start": 2255.84, "end": 2256.84, "text": " It turns orange if you don't have service." }, { "start": 2256.84, "end": 2260.56, "text": " Sorry Vlad, I'm interrupting McGee again but Twitter tells me I'm wrong." }, { "start": 2260.56, "end": 2263, "text": " It turns orange if you don't have a full connection." }, { "start": 2263, "end": 2264, "text": " Man I like that orange." }, { "start": 2264, "end": 2268.48, "text": " I've seen it on my Wi-Fi and I used to think that's just like a good highlight color" }, { "start": 2268.48, "end": 2269.96, "text": " to replace the blue." }, { "start": 2269.96, "end": 2271.7599999999998, "text": " It's just party Wi-Fi." }, { "start": 2271.7599999999998, "end": 2276.12, "text": " I was like that's a nice subtle orange color." }, { "start": 2276.12, "end": 2277.12, "text": " It really is." }, { "start": 2277.12, "end": 2281.36, "text": " I mean it's still a nice color, just not a happy one when you're looking at it on" }, { "start": 2281.36, "end": 2282.52, "text": " this phone." }, { "start": 2282.52, "end": 2287.68, "text": " But a couple of quick hardware points to add with the Nexus 5." }, { "start": 2287.68, "end": 2289.88, "text": " The auto brightness is actually driving me nuts." }, { "start": 2289.88, "end": 2292.88, "text": " Oh so much better, you're wrong." }, { "start": 2292.88, "end": 2298.92, "text": " Well I mean I might be wrong about one part which is that I find it too bright by default" }, { "start": 2298.92, "end": 2302.7200000000003, "text": " which you know kind of a subjective issue but it also hunts around a lot for me." }, { "start": 2302.7200000000003, "end": 2307.96, "text": " So I would just be reading a piece of play white text and nothing would change about" }, { "start": 2307.96, "end": 2308.96, "text": " my lighting." }, { "start": 2308.96, "end": 2312.44, "text": " It would just go up and down, up and down and try and figure out where the hell it is." }, { "start": 2312.44, "end": 2313.7200000000003, "text": " So that's one point." }, { "start": 2313.7200000000003, "end": 2318.12, "text": " The other is that the speaker, the loudspeaker on this handset is an afterthought." }, { "start": 2318.12, "end": 2320.44, "text": " It's just really really weak." }, { "start": 2320.44, "end": 2326.72, "text": " I mean it's fine for ringtones and notifications but I mean the HTC One series just embarrasses" }, { "start": 2326.72, "end": 2327.72, "text": " this." }, { "start": 2327.72, "end": 2331.4, "text": " That's interesting that you say that because it's not on the back anymore." }, { "start": 2331.4, "end": 2336.44, "text": " It's down at the bottom where the charging port is and in theory that makes it a better" }, { "start": 2336.44, "end": 2338.8399999999997, "text": " projection if you have it placed on a desk." }, { "start": 2338.8399999999997, "end": 2344.96, "text": " It's exactly the same place as on the LG G2 but it is nothing like the one on the LG G2." }, { "start": 2344.96, "end": 2345.96, "text": " Interesting." }, { "start": 2345.96, "end": 2350.64, "text": " It's exactly but nothing like." }, { "start": 2350.64, "end": 2355.7200000000003, "text": " Another point actually comparing it to the G2 is the micro USB port at the bottom." }, { "start": 2355.7200000000003, "end": 2358.64, "text": " Somebody asked me about this on Twitter." }, { "start": 2358.64, "end": 2364.92, "text": " It's upside down on the Nexus 5 relative to the G2 so it's not the same orientation." }, { "start": 2364.92, "end": 2369, "text": " I don't know what to tell you about that." }, { "start": 2369, "end": 2370.76, "text": " Hey man, someone wanted to know." }, { "start": 2370.76, "end": 2376.6400000000003, "text": " I haven't had a whole lot of hunting for brightness level problems but I will say maybe" }, { "start": 2376.6400000000003, "end": 2380.7200000000003, "text": " it is a little bit too bright on the auto brightness but I'd much rather have that" }, { "start": 2380.7200000000003, "end": 2385, "text": " than the dim cluster that was." }, { "start": 2385, "end": 2391.0800000000004, "text": " I'd much rather just have it work correctly like it does on the G2." }, { "start": 2391.0800000000004, "end": 2392.6400000000003, "text": " And you and the G2 should start out as friends." }, { "start": 2392.6400000000003, "end": 2398.96, "text": " Me and the G2 and that knock on function, dude, we're in love." }, { "start": 2398.96, "end": 2403.12, "text": " The reason that knock on function exists is because it's fixing something that's broken" }, { "start": 2403.12, "end": 2406.12, "text": " with the G2 to begin with." }, { "start": 2406.12, "end": 2408.52, "text": " Well you know what, double tap to wake." }, { "start": 2408.52, "end": 2411.04, "text": " Nokia did it in the N9 and all of these other devices." }, { "start": 2411.04, "end": 2416.28, "text": " I'm just saying everybody, every single phone manufacturer needs to have this on their phone." }, { "start": 2416.28, "end": 2418.2, "text": " Double tap to wake, double tap to put it to sleep." }, { "start": 2418.2, "end": 2419.56, "text": " It just makes sense." }, { "start": 2419.56, "end": 2422.7200000000003, "text": " But also, LG, that skin, it is terrible." }, { "start": 2422.7200000000003, "end": 2427.6, "text": " I installed Cyanogen Mod on G2 and I can tell everybody it's easy enough to root and Cyanogen" }, { "start": 2427.6, "end": 2431.16, "text": " Mod is stable enough to use on a daily basis so thumbs up." }, { "start": 2431.16, "end": 2435.08, "text": " But LG does actually have good things about its skin." }, { "start": 2435.08, "end": 2439.9, "text": " Probably like one good thing which is that when you plug in a headphone or the micro" }, { "start": 2439.9, "end": 2446.68, "text": " USB port, you get a little animation showing it as if it's like going into the device." }, { "start": 2446.68, "end": 2450.96, "text": " It just kind of pops in and pops out and just tells you yes I have a headphone jack in me." }, { "start": 2450.96, "end": 2453.3399999999997, "text": " And it's just really cool to me." }, { "start": 2453.3399999999997, "end": 2455.16, "text": " I just really like that animation." }, { "start": 2455.16, "end": 2460.3199999999997, "text": " I know I'm not getting any support but I'm saying there's a good thing about that skin." }, { "start": 2460.3199999999997, "end": 2463.3199999999997, "text": " I like that." }, { "start": 2463.3199999999997, "end": 2470.2, "text": " Anything else that we have to say about, I mean, you know, I wrote the KitKat review." }, { "start": 2470.2, "end": 2471.44, "text": " You guys helped pitch in on that." }, { "start": 2471.44, "end": 2475.48, "text": " We've got the Nexus 5 review, we've got the report that went up today." }, { "start": 2475.48, "end": 2478.3599999999997, "text": " We've learned a lot about this thing." }, { "start": 2478.3599999999997, "end": 2483.58, "text": " What I really want to know and if we're going to just leave on Google stuff, it's like the" }, { "start": 2483.58, "end": 2487.3199999999997, "text": " unanswered question of Google has talked a lot about how KitKat has been slimmed down" }, { "start": 2487.3199999999997, "end": 2492.72, "text": " and tightened up and runs good on or runs well on devices with lower memory, devices" }, { "start": 2492.72, "end": 2494.62, "text": " with slower processors and stuff like that." }, { "start": 2494.62, "end": 2497.02, "text": " So I want to see what Google put its money where its mouth is." }, { "start": 2497.02, "end": 2499.7799999999997, "text": " I want to see one of these low end devices running KitKat." }, { "start": 2499.7799999999997, "end": 2504.56, "text": " It runs great on the Nexus 5 but by all accounts the Nexus 5 is one of the fastest phones you" }, { "start": 2504.56, "end": 2505.56, "text": " can buy right now." }, { "start": 2505.56, "end": 2507.96, "text": " Well so Vlad actually wrote a report about this." }, { "start": 2507.96, "end": 2508.96, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2508.96, "end": 2510.52, "text": " I want to know, I want to see it." }, { "start": 2510.52, "end": 2512.12, "text": " That's what I'm saying." }, { "start": 2512.12, "end": 2513.12, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2513.12, "end": 2515.6, "text": " That is the billion dollar question." }, { "start": 2515.6, "end": 2522, "text": " The way that they did this, Dave Burke told us that the way that they initially tested" }, { "start": 2522, "end": 2525.46, "text": " it on low end is they took a Nexus 4 and they crippled it." }, { "start": 2525.46, "end": 2530.4, "text": " They cut it down to 512 megs of RAM and they hobbled the processor so that it couldn't" }, { "start": 2530.4, "end": 2535.8399999999997, "text": " go at full speed and looked like a cheap dual core processor and they lowered the resolution" }, { "start": 2535.8399999999997, "end": 2538.08, "text": " down to QHD." }, { "start": 2538.08, "end": 2541.96, "text": " And they say that it runs great, they say that there's going to be devices coming up" }, { "start": 2541.96, "end": 2544, "text": " pretty quick with it." }, { "start": 2544, "end": 2549.26, "text": " They were down to like, they know the exact model and type of RAM that these people are" }, { "start": 2549.26, "end": 2552.8, "text": " using and that's what they decided to target." }, { "start": 2552.8, "end": 2556.06, "text": " I mean they need to get gingerbread off the market, just period." }, { "start": 2556.06, "end": 2561.4, "text": " Every time that pie chart comes up and it's still got a huge wedge of the insolvability." }, { "start": 2561.4, "end": 2567.16, "text": " It's still greater than 26% and this is greater than 26% of devices with Play Store" }, { "start": 2567.16, "end": 2569.28, "text": " access." }, { "start": 2569.28, "end": 2570.28, "text": " Which is terrible." }, { "start": 2570.28, "end": 2573.88, "text": " That means there's way more that don't, right?" }, { "start": 2573.88, "end": 2577.76, "text": " Earlier this year, I don't know if it's still there, but earlier this year there was definitely" }, { "start": 2577.76, "end": 2584.26, "text": " at least one device on AT&T's online store that had Froyo." }, { "start": 2584.26, "end": 2586.4, "text": " That's not a joke." }, { "start": 2586.4, "end": 2587.4, "text": " That's not going to change." }, { "start": 2587.4, "end": 2591.36, "text": " AT&T's not going to push an update to that, whatever that device was and give it…" }, { "start": 2591.36, "end": 2595.32, "text": " Was it like an industrial scanner or something?" }, { "start": 2595.32, "end": 2599.8, "text": " No, it was the phone that they launched and immediately forgot." }, { "start": 2599.8, "end": 2603.1200000000003, "text": " It was the Sharp FX Plus or whatever it was called." }, { "start": 2603.1200000000003, "end": 2608.92, "text": " The one that looked like a sidekick but running Android." }, { "start": 2608.92, "end": 2614.32, "text": " So anyway, that's neither here nor there." }, { "start": 2614.32, "end": 2622.28, "text": " You guys were saying about Q&A, somebody asked us, is the Nexus 5 a good upgrade if you're" }, { "start": 2622.28, "end": 2624.7200000000003, "text": " already happy with the Nexus 4?" }, { "start": 2624.7200000000003, "end": 2628.8, "text": " I think the answer to that is absolutely obvious, no." }, { "start": 2628.8, "end": 2633.32, "text": " If you're happy with your device, there is no good upgrade." }, { "start": 2633.32, "end": 2634.32, "text": " Just stay happy." }, { "start": 2634.32, "end": 2635.32, "text": " You have your device." }, { "start": 2635.32, "end": 2638.36, "text": " Carry on with your life." }, { "start": 2638.36, "end": 2642.6600000000003, "text": " I don't necessarily buy that because you don't know what you're…" }, { "start": 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are definitely features or transformational differences in performance" }, { "start": 2680.12, "end": 2684.3999999999996, "text": " or screen quality that could qualify as yes, you don't know it yet but you need to buy" }, { "start": 2684.3999999999996, "end": 2685.3999999999996, "text": " this device." }, { "start": 2685.4, "end": 2689.32, "text": " But I think it's safe to say here, correct me if I'm wrong, but the Nexus 5 is not" }, { "start": 2689.32, "end": 2691.32, "text": " that kind of upgrade." }, { "start": 2691.32, "end": 2694.6800000000003, "text": " It is if you live in a place with LTE and you're not using it." }, { "start": 2694.6800000000003, "end": 2695.6800000000003, "text": " Oh yeah." }, { "start": 2695.6800000000003, "end": 2699.2400000000002, "text": " If you've got 350 bucks to burn and you've got LTE in your area that's compatible with" }, { "start": 2699.2400000000002, "end": 2703.08, "text": " the Nexus 5, then dude, spend the 350." }, { "start": 2703.08, "end": 2705.12, "text": " You're going to be pretty happy." }, { "start": 2705.12, "end": 2706.12, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 2706.12, "end": 2712.28, "text": " But the point was, the premise of the question was I am already happy." }, { "start": 2712.28, "end": 2721.1600000000003, "text": " First of all, that person is such a rarity in the modern world." }, { "start": 2721.1600000000003, "end": 2725.6800000000003, "text": " I want to congratulate them and just say carry on with whatever the hell you're doing." }, { "start": 2725.6800000000003, "end": 2728.3, "text": " You guys are like, what about the opportunity cost?" }, { "start": 2728.3, "end": 2730.8, "text": " You have to really consider such and such." }, { "start": 2730.8, "end": 2731.8, "text": " No." }, { "start": 2731.8, "end": 2732.8, "text": " If you're happy, carry on." }, { "start": 2732.8, "end": 2736.6000000000004, "text": " I wish I could be happy with a gadget like that, man." }, { "start": 2736.6000000000004, "end": 2741.1600000000003, "text": " One day you might just encounter LTE randomly and fall in love with it and have this random" }, { "start": 2741.16, "end": 2745.72, "text": " runaway romance together, but let that be in your future." }, { "start": 2745.72, "end": 2747.96, "text": " Let it just happen naturally." }, { "start": 2747.96, "end": 2750.48, "text": " I say if you're happy, stop it." }, { "start": 2750.48, "end": 2751.48, "text": " Just stop." }, { "start": 2751.48, "end": 2752.48, "text": " Stop being happy." }, { "start": 2752.48, "end": 2755.3999999999996, "text": " I do not want you to be happy." }, { "start": 2755.3999999999996, "end": 2758.7599999999998, "text": " Whatever phone you don't currently own is better than what you currently have." }, { "start": 2758.7599999999998, "end": 2764.48, "text": " I don't care what it is, what phone you currently have, or what phone you're looking at." }, { "start": 2764.48, "end": 2767.24, "text": " You're not as happy as you could be when you switched." }, { "start": 2767.24, "end": 2776, "text": " This weekend I was actually trying to tape the Lumia 1020 and the Nexus 5 together." }, { "start": 2776, "end": 2777.72, "text": " That would have made me happy." }, { "start": 2777.72, "end": 2782.4399999999996, "text": " So before we move on from Google, I want to touch on another subject that I think frankly" }, { "start": 2782.4399999999996, "end": 2791.6, "text": " has not gotten the attention it deserves, and that's this absurd arbitrary 18 month" }, { "start": 2791.6, "end": 2796.4399999999996, "text": " limitation on upgrades that disqualifies the Galaxy Nexus from 4.4." }, { "start": 2796.44, "end": 2798.08, "text": " And Google is not trying to hide this." }, { "start": 2798.08, "end": 2803.84, "text": " They're very, very open about the fact that it is just getting forgotten because they" }, { "start": 2803.84, "end": 2807.2000000000003, "text": " have this 18 month rule." }, { "start": 2807.2000000000003, "end": 2811.52, "text": " They're very two-faced about it because on the one hand they're saying 4.4 is great for" }, { "start": 2811.52, "end": 2815.32, "text": " low end devices, and then on the other hand they're saying, oh, but this two year old" }, { "start": 2815.32, "end": 2820.12, "text": " phone that could very, very easily run for this new operating system isn't going to get" }, { "start": 2820.12, "end": 2821.12, "text": " an upgrade." }, { "start": 2821.12, "end": 2828.3599999999997, "text": " And I think it wouldn't be as weird if it weren't for the fact that here you have Apple" }, { "start": 2828.3599999999997, "end": 2836.72, "text": " basically on a rolling three year upgrade path for all of its phones, and then Google" }, { "start": 2836.72, "end": 2842.8399999999997, "text": " just hasn't, even for its own line, has no interest in following suit." }, { "start": 2842.8399999999997, "end": 2848.24, "text": " And when you consider that the two year contract still isn't dead in the US, they're basically" }, { "start": 2848.24, "end": 2853.3999999999996, "text": " saying your device will be EOL'd before your contract is even over, which is just kind" }, { "start": 2853.3999999999996, "end": 2855.2599999999998, "text": " of a slap in the face." }, { "start": 2855.2599999999998, "end": 2858.7999999999997, "text": " If I owned a Galaxy Nexus, I would be super upset." }, { "start": 2858.7999999999997, "end": 2861.4399999999996, "text": " There's millions of these Galaxy Nexuses out there." }, { "start": 2861.4399999999996, "end": 2865.72, "text": " They sold a ton of these things to a bunch of developers and just everybody, they're" }, { "start": 2865.72, "end": 2866.72, "text": " everywhere." }, { "start": 2866.72, "end": 2868.16, "text": " They should really find a way to do it." }, { "start": 2868.16, "end": 2874.2799999999997, "text": " And the 18 month thing, I'm sorry, any policy that Google tells you that they have about" }, { "start": 2874.2799999999997, "end": 2877.8199999999997, "text": " upgrades is a lie." }, { "start": 2877.82, "end": 2881.36, "text": " It's whatever makes the most sense to them to say based on what they've decided to" }, { "start": 2881.36, "end": 2883.32, "text": " do that day." }, { "start": 2883.32, "end": 2887.8, "text": " And with the Galaxy Nexus, the story is that it's got this TI processor and TI's not" }, { "start": 2887.8, "end": 2892.56, "text": " around and they don't have somebody to help them do the thing they need to do to make" }, { "start": 2892.56, "end": 2896.1200000000003, "text": " it work on 4.4." }, { "start": 2896.1200000000003, "end": 2897.84, "text": " I think that's the real thing." }, { "start": 2897.84, "end": 2900.1600000000003, "text": " It's got this TI processor in it." }, { "start": 2900.1600000000003, "end": 2905.1600000000003, "text": " But that's still BS because TI still exists and they're still making OMAPs, they're" }, { "start": 2905.1600000000003, "end": 2907.46, "text": " just not selling them to smartphone vendors." }, { "start": 2907.46, "end": 2912.92, "text": " You can't tell me that they can't like, first of all, Google has a copy of the OMAP3" }, { "start": 2912.92, "end": 2915.4, "text": " ISA sitting in their lab." }, { "start": 2915.4, "end": 2920.44, "text": " They can figure out how to program for an OMAP3." }, { "start": 2920.44, "end": 2922.96, "text": " If anybody has resources to throw at it, it's Google." }, { "start": 2922.96, "end": 2925.96, "text": " Excuse me, OMAP2 or not OMAP3." }, { "start": 2925.96, "end": 2929.48, "text": " We're not talking about some tiny startup manufacturer." }, { "start": 2929.48, "end": 2933.04, "text": " We're talking about one of the largest internet companies in the world that has tens of thousands" }, { "start": 2933.04, "end": 2934.04, "text": " of engineers." }, { "start": 2934.04, "end": 2935.04, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 2935.04, "end": 2941.96, "text": " They've got to make sure that they're putting resources into help outs so that people" }, { "start": 2941.96, "end": 2948.4, "text": " can get their multi-level marketing MLM schemes running." }, { "start": 2948.4, "end": 2956.32, "text": " And with that we should direct our viewers to go watch scam world again which is still" }, { "start": 2956.32, "end": 2958.72, "text": " a fantastic piece on our site." }, { "start": 2958.72, "end": 2962.8, "text": " So there are no MLMs on help outs yet." }, { "start": 2962.8, "end": 2965.6000000000004, "text": " But there aren't any now because everybody gets background checked and whatever from" }, { "start": 2965.6000000000004, "end": 2966.6000000000004, "text": " Google." }, { "start": 2966.6000000000004, "end": 2970.8, "text": " So you can only get your makeup checked with Sephora and have someone teach you how to" }, { "start": 2970.8, "end": 2974.1200000000003, "text": " spackle a wall or learn to play the guitar." }, { "start": 2974.1200000000003, "end": 2976.6400000000003, "text": " I don't want to talk about help outs at all." }, { "start": 2976.6400000000003, "end": 2980.32, "text": " Okay, we've got to talk about Blackberry." }, { "start": 2980.32, "end": 2982.6400000000003, "text": " We've got to like – so they didn't –" }, { "start": 2982.6400000000003, "end": 2983.6400000000003, "text": " Do we have to?" }, { "start": 2983.6400000000003, "end": 2985.6800000000003, "text": " Have to is a strong word." }, { "start": 2985.6800000000003, "end": 2992.28, "text": " I think we do because this time Blackberry is actually interesting." }, { "start": 2992.28, "end": 2993.28, "text": " They didn't get sold." }, { "start": 2993.28, "end": 2999.52, "text": " They got an infusion of cash from the investor firm that wanted to buy them but couldn't" }, { "start": 2999.52, "end": 3002.9, "text": " pull in enough bankers to actually support buying them so they just threw some money" }, { "start": 3002.9, "end": 3005.6400000000003, "text": " at them which is totally insane." }, { "start": 3005.6400000000003, "end": 3012.28, "text": " And Torsten Heinz is out and a new guy John Chen is in." }, { "start": 3012.28, "end": 3017.92, "text": " And let's just be very clear that Torsten Heinz was paid $22 million to fail." }, { "start": 3017.92, "end": 3022.44, "text": " He walks away with more money than most of us will make in our entire lifetimes." }, { "start": 3022.44, "end": 3025.12, "text": " Let's just get that out on the table." }, { "start": 3025.12, "end": 3026.12, "text": " So absurd." }, { "start": 3026.12, "end": 3031.04, "text": " I mean I've said numerous times about how he walked into a really bad situation and" }, { "start": 3031.04, "end": 3034.4, "text": " a lot of what happened with Blackberry was not entirely his fault." }, { "start": 3034.4, "end": 3039.04, "text": " But at the same time in the 18 months or however long he was in term as CEO, he didn't do" }, { "start": 3039.04, "end": 3040.92, "text": " anything to improve its situation." }, { "start": 3040.92, "end": 3042.7200000000003, "text": " It just got worse and worse and worse." }, { "start": 3042.7200000000003, "end": 3047.04, "text": " And so by all accounts he failed at his job and he still comes out walking away with eight" }, { "start": 3047.04, "end": 3049.2, "text": " figures in his pocket." }, { "start": 3049.2, "end": 3051.64, "text": " That's the guarantee with any CEO position." }, { "start": 3051.64, "end": 3055, "text": " This was the thing that I was thinking the other day while I was eating parsley." }, { "start": 3055, "end": 3059.88, "text": " I don't know I just have this really strong association now between parsley and thinking" }, { "start": 3059.88, "end": 3060.88, "text": " about Blackberry." }, { "start": 3060.88, "end": 3061.88, "text": " Parsley is not an entree." }, { "start": 3061.88, "end": 3062.88, "text": " Parsley is not an entree." }, { "start": 3062.88, "end": 3069, "text": " I was eating parsley with other stuff but it was the strongest flavor at the time." }, { "start": 3069, "end": 3070, "text": " Parsley has no flavor." }, { "start": 3070, "end": 3071, "text": " I'm talking about Blackberry." }, { "start": 3071, "end": 3074.24, "text": " Leave the parsley alone." }, { "start": 3074.24, "end": 3075.24, "text": " Parsley has flavor." }, { "start": 3075.24, "end": 3076.24, "text": " Parsley is beautiful." }, { "start": 3076.24, "end": 3081.8799999999997, "text": " I don't think there is anything that cannot be improved by a little sprinkling of parsley." }, { "start": 3081.8799999999997, "end": 3084.8799999999997, "text": " I can think of a few things." }, { "start": 3084.8799999999997, "end": 3089.52, "text": " So you can have sympathy for Thorsten Heinz because rather like Steve and Elob, he was" }, { "start": 3089.52, "end": 3094.8799999999997, "text": " left in a situation where there weren't that many right moves for him to make." }, { "start": 3094.8799999999997, "end": 3101.8799999999997, "text": " Whatever decision he was making, ultimately it was also an issue of execution with Blackberry." }, { "start": 3101.88, "end": 3107.2400000000002, "text": " His decision to switch to Blackberry 10 and be aggressive and the other, other, other" }, { "start": 3107.2400000000002, "end": 3113.4, "text": " might have been perfect if they actually could code a mobile OS if they were capable of doing" }, { "start": 3113.4, "end": 3117.56, "text": " that and doing things like an email client but they just weren't." }, { "start": 3117.56, "end": 3121.04, "text": " They kind of sucked at their job wholeheartedly and universally." }, { "start": 3121.04, "end": 3123.1600000000003, "text": " I wouldn't just pin it on Thorsten Heinz." }, { "start": 3123.1600000000003, "end": 3125.12, "text": " I don't think he really helped things." }, { "start": 3125.12, "end": 3128.2000000000003, "text": " There was that quote from him saying we're innovating too much." }, { "start": 3128.2000000000003, "end": 3130.48, "text": " We have differentiated products." }, { "start": 3130.48, "end": 3136.04, "text": " We should differentiate it because they're like three years behind the curve, etc., etc." }, { "start": 3136.04, "end": 3139.54, "text": " He didn't help things too much but we can't have too much sympathy for him." }, { "start": 3139.54, "end": 3147.52, "text": " So my biggest question is, you know, everyone's calling this interim CEO, John Chen, the fixer" }, { "start": 3147.52, "end": 3151.16, "text": " upper guy but wasn't Thorsten the fixer upper guy?" }, { "start": 3151.16, "end": 3153.28, "text": " So is this the fixer upper for the fixer upper?" }, { "start": 3153.28, "end": 3155.52, "text": " It must be." }, { "start": 3155.52, "end": 3162.44, "text": " Well I mean John Chen actually has credentials in doing that because in his previous role" }, { "start": 3162.44, "end": 3165.68, "text": " he led, what was the name of that company?" }, { "start": 3165.68, "end": 3169.32, "text": " Well he led the revival of a company that was kind of down in the dumps and was ready" }, { "start": 3169.32, "end": 3170.6, "text": " to fail basically." }, { "start": 3170.6, "end": 3175.64, "text": " So he's got perfect experience, perfect credentials for this job." }, { "start": 3175.64, "end": 3178.6, "text": " Whereas Thorsten Heinz was an internal hire for Blackberry." }, { "start": 3178.6, "end": 3185.08, "text": " So I mean John Chen has at least more of a, I don't even know if he has more of a chance" }, { "start": 3185.08, "end": 3190.52, "text": " to revive things now because it's you know, 18 months on, the situation has gotten worse." }, { "start": 3190.52, "end": 3196.52, "text": " But he seems better qualified at least." }, { "start": 3196.52, "end": 3197.52, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 3197.52, "end": 3204.72, "text": " Okay, well since that's all of our hard analysis, I would just like to point out that maybe," }, { "start": 3204.72, "end": 3210.84, "text": " just maybe, part of Blackberry's problem has to do with the fact that it just appointed" }, { "start": 3210.84, "end": 3216.76, "text": " a new and give me a chance to read this in full, lead director and chair of the compensation," }, { "start": 3216.76, "end": 3219.32, "text": " nomination and governance committee." }, { "start": 3219.32, "end": 3221.48, "text": " Most of those words have been capitalized." }, { "start": 3221.48, "end": 3223.28, "text": " Alicia Keys?" }, { "start": 3223.28, "end": 3224.28, "text": " No." }, { "start": 3224.28, "end": 3226.28, "text": " Strange enough, no." }, { "start": 3226.28, "end": 3232.6400000000003, "text": " This is a position that Fairfax's CEO Prem Watser is taking up at Blackberry." }, { "start": 3232.6400000000003, "end": 3237.6400000000003, "text": " Fairfax being the investors that wanted to take over Blackberry and just couldn't get" }, { "start": 3237.6400000000003, "end": 3238.6400000000003, "text": " the money together." }, { "start": 3238.64, "end": 3241.16, "text": " But it's just kind of nuts." }, { "start": 3241.16, "end": 3247.08, "text": " There's like so much middle management going on and so much like senior vice president," }, { "start": 3247.08, "end": 3253.8399999999997, "text": " deputy of management for something in charge of etc." }, { "start": 3253.8399999999997, "end": 3256.52, "text": " It just sounds like another terrible model to me." }, { "start": 3256.52, "end": 3260.7599999999998, "text": " But also notable, in the entire Blackberry announcement there was nothing said about" }, { "start": 3260.7599999999998, "end": 3261.7599999999998, "text": " the future." }, { "start": 3261.7599999999998, "end": 3264.7599999999998, "text": " Even John Chen is an interim CEO." }, { "start": 3264.76, "end": 3269.1200000000003, "text": " So the main CEO, executive chair of the board, so essentially he's the man in charge." }, { "start": 3269.1200000000003, "end": 3275.88, "text": " He's got the Steve Jobs position of Blackberry, which is funny because Steve Jobs never failed" }, { "start": 3275.88, "end": 3276.88, "text": " this bad." }, { "start": 3276.88, "end": 3280.5600000000004, "text": " But anyway, he's got as much, pretty much it sounds like he's got as much power as" }, { "start": 3280.5600000000004, "end": 3282.32, "text": " him, but he's in an interim position." }, { "start": 3282.32, "end": 3285.6800000000003, "text": " So Blackberry isn't really committing to anything at the moment." }, { "start": 3285.6800000000003, "end": 3293.84, "text": " Well they did say one thing and that's they are not killing the handset division." }, { "start": 3293.84, "end": 3294.84, "text": " Six months on that." }, { "start": 3294.84, "end": 3295.84, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3295.84, "end": 3299.28, "text": " Yeah, we're not killing the handset division today." }, { "start": 3299.28, "end": 3300.28, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 3300.28, "end": 3301.28, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 3301.28, "end": 3306.76, "text": " We're not eating a cheese sandwich today." }, { "start": 3306.76, "end": 3310, "text": " Every single – Actually parsley on a cheese sandwich, very" }, { "start": 3310, "end": 3311, "text": " good." }, { "start": 3311, "end": 3312, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3312, "end": 3315.4, "text": " I'm telling you guys, parsley is just for decoration." }, { "start": 3315.4, "end": 3316.4, "text": " It has no flavor." }, { "start": 3316.4, "end": 3318.6400000000003, "text": " Oh my god, it's full of vitamins." }, { "start": 3318.6400000000003, "end": 3321.8, "text": " No, it is full of – I'm not disputing that." }, { "start": 3321.8, "end": 3324.1200000000003, "text": " I mean lots of things are full of vitamins." }, { "start": 3324.1200000000003, "end": 3325.88, "text": " Kale is full of vitamins." }, { "start": 3325.88, "end": 3327, "text": " Kale is awesome." }, { "start": 3327, "end": 3328, "text": " Kale has flavor." }, { "start": 3328, "end": 3329.88, "text": " Yeah, no, kale has a lot of flavor." }, { "start": 3329.88, "end": 3333.52, "text": " Kale is like really like – you have to like either cook it or like blend it." }, { "start": 3333.52, "end": 3334.52, "text": " Those are your only options." }, { "start": 3334.52, "end": 3335.52, "text": " You can't eat it raw." }, { "start": 3335.52, "end": 3336.52, "text": " Of course you can." }, { "start": 3336.52, "end": 3337.52, "text": " Well you can." }, { "start": 3337.52, "end": 3342.7200000000003, "text": " I should not have this outrage against raw vegetable eating." }, { "start": 3342.7200000000003, "end": 3348.48, "text": " Vlad, I would just like to point out something you once said to me, which was that – you" }, { "start": 3348.48, "end": 3355.48, "text": " said to me that the only part of the apple worth eating is the skin and you got rid of" }, { "start": 3355.48, "end": 3356.8, "text": " the rest." }, { "start": 3356.8, "end": 3364.16, "text": " So your opinion on like the flavor and value of fruits and vegetables is just teetering" }, { "start": 3364.16, "end": 3366.8, "text": " on the edge, teetering on the brink." }, { "start": 3366.8, "end": 3369.4, "text": " Just to defend that, I never throw away the rest of the apple." }, { "start": 3369.4, "end": 3374, "text": " I just let some poor victim eat it because it's all sugar." }, { "start": 3374, "end": 3377.28, "text": " Whereas the skin of the apple is where all the good stuff is." }, { "start": 3377.28, "end": 3382.6000000000004, "text": " Also the rind of pumpkin and squash and all of those things is the best." }, { "start": 3382.6000000000004, "end": 3385.84, "text": " If we hadn't started talking about blackberries yet, that would be great because I could say" }, { "start": 3385.84, "end": 3390.28, "text": " speaking of fruits and then start talking about blackberry." }, { "start": 3390.28, "end": 3393.7200000000003, "text": " But we were already talking about blackberries." }, { "start": 3393.7200000000003, "end": 3397.7200000000003, "text": " So anyway, the Z30, I haven't touched one." }, { "start": 3397.7200000000003, "end": 3400.0400000000004, "text": " I'm not sure I ever will touch one." }, { "start": 3400.0400000000004, "end": 3403, "text": " You can't wipe it off once you do." }, { "start": 3403, "end": 3410.64, "text": " But every first take I've seen of this device across the interwebs seems to suggest that" }, { "start": 3410.64, "end": 3414.6, "text": " it is the answer to a question that no one asked." }, { "start": 3414.6, "end": 3419.16, "text": " Which is, if you love the Z10, what would you buy next?" }, { "start": 3419.16, "end": 3424.6, "text": " So you know, take that for what you will." }, { "start": 3424.6, "end": 3427.08, "text": " Oh, okay, segue." }, { "start": 3427.08, "end": 3429.44, "text": " Seguele, this is the best." }, { "start": 3429.44, "end": 3434.8, "text": " Speaking of devices and answers to questions that no one asked, the LG G Flex." }, { "start": 3434.8, "end": 3436.68, "text": " Take it away Chris, I'm giving it." }, { "start": 3436.68, "end": 3437.68, "text": " The stage is yours." }, { "start": 3437.68, "end": 3439.7200000000003, "text": " You need to tell us about the Flex." }, { "start": 3439.7200000000003, "end": 3446.64, "text": " So the Flex is a, it is not just a curved phone." }, { "start": 3446.64, "end": 3452.92, "text": " As we learned from the, and many people pointed this out to me, the vaguely sexual video that" }, { "start": 3452.92, "end": 3459, "text": " is on our site right now, there is a picture of a guy pressing repeatedly on top of the" }, { "start": 3459, "end": 3460, "text": " phone to flatten it." }, { "start": 3460, "end": 3462.36, "text": " He's just having his way with that thing man." }, { "start": 3462.36, "end": 3463.36, "text": " He really is." }, { "start": 3463.36, "end": 3469.44, "text": " Like if you looped it and set it to some sultry music, it would be really over the top." }, { "start": 3469.44, "end": 3470.44, "text": " But then the question." }, { "start": 3470.44, "end": 3471.72, "text": " You guys are like, so gutted." }, { "start": 3471.72, "end": 3472.72, "text": " I thought it looked like CPR." }, { "start": 3472.72, "end": 3475.96, "text": " I thought he was giving the G Flex CPR." }, { "start": 3475.96, "end": 3479.16, "text": " You don't think CPR is vaguely sexual?" }, { "start": 3479.16, "end": 3485.08, "text": " Anyway, back to the G Flex for one second." }, { "start": 3485.08, "end": 3491.2, "text": " The question becomes, so this phone is actually flexible, hence the name I guess." }, { "start": 3491.2, "end": 3493.7999999999997, "text": " But it's just barely flexible." }, { "start": 3493.7999999999997, "end": 3496.2799999999997, "text": " It's mostly rigid, there's just a little bit of give in it." }, { "start": 3496.2799999999997, "end": 3497.92, "text": " So it's like what is the point of that?" }, { "start": 3497.92, "end": 3501.94, "text": " And as Neelai pointed out to us earlier, he's flexing it in the direction of just being" }, { "start": 3501.94, "end": 3502.94, "text": " flat." }, { "start": 3502.94, "end": 3505.98, "text": " Just make a flat phone." }, { "start": 3505.98, "end": 3508.12, "text": " What is the function of this device?" }, { "start": 3508.12, "end": 3513.54, "text": " This is absolutely, this is like the most crystal clear focused case I've seen of both" }, { "start": 3513.54, "end": 3518.92, "text": " Samsung and LG flexing their engineering prowess without putting the cart before the horse" }, { "start": 3518.92, "end": 3522, "text": " and saying is there actually any reason for this device to exist?" }, { "start": 3522, "end": 3523, "text": " Because the answer is no." }, { "start": 3523, "end": 3524.52, "text": " It's very clearly no." }, { "start": 3524.52, "end": 3530.2799999999997, "text": " When I was watching this video, the only thing I could think of was there was a spat of Nokia" }, { "start": 3530.2799999999997, "end": 3536.14, "text": " flip phones that were really thin and they were, you flip them open and you could put" }, { "start": 3536.14, "end": 3540.2599999999998, "text": " it face down on a desk and you could literally punch the back of the thing and the spring" }, { "start": 3540.26, "end": 3544.96, "text": " would just kind of like give so that it wouldn't snap the phone in half." }, { "start": 3544.96, "end": 3548.7200000000003, "text": " And that's all I could think of when I was watching him press down on this upside down" }, { "start": 3548.7200000000003, "end": 3550.88, "text": " G Flex." }, { "start": 3550.88, "end": 3556.0800000000004, "text": " We used to do the flex test on every phone where you would take it and you would put" }, { "start": 3556.0800000000004, "end": 3560.6400000000003, "text": " some torsion on it and then if it bent that was a sign of poor quality." }, { "start": 3560.6400000000003, "end": 3564.32, "text": " And I mean, that was a sign of poor quality." }, { "start": 3564.32, "end": 3566.5200000000004, "text": " And maybe now." }, { "start": 3566.5200000000004, "end": 3569.32, "text": " Now it's innovation." }, { "start": 3569.32, "end": 3574.04, "text": " I have nothing to say about the G Flex other than no, no thanks." }, { "start": 3574.04, "end": 3578.56, "text": " As far as I'm concerned and again this is kind of like comparing Nexus cameras, the" }, { "start": 3578.56, "end": 3583.96, "text": " G Flex is definitely the better choice than the Galaxy Round." }, { "start": 3583.96, "end": 3587.0800000000004, "text": " That's fair, although I haven't held the Galaxy Round." }, { "start": 3587.0800000000004, "end": 3590.84, "text": " I haven't seen somebody try and hold the Galaxy Round up to their head either." }, { "start": 3590.84, "end": 3594.0800000000004, "text": " I imagine it would be ridiculous." }, { "start": 3594.0800000000004, "end": 3596.2000000000003, "text": " Yeah because nobody's head is shaped like a cylinder." }, { "start": 3596.2000000000003, "end": 3598.6800000000003, "text": " I'm more concerned about the pocketability." }, { "start": 3598.68, "end": 3600.08, "text": " I'm concerned about everything." }, { "start": 3600.08, "end": 3604.04, "text": " Why does this phone?" }, { "start": 3604.04, "end": 3608.3999999999996, "text": " I mean why didn't LG and Samsung just wait another year until they could actually put" }, { "start": 3608.3999999999996, "end": 3615.12, "text": " this component, which is an absolutely magical, wonderful sci-fi component, the concept of" }, { "start": 3615.12, "end": 3616.12, "text": " a curved, bendable display." }, { "start": 3616.12, "end": 3620, "text": " Why don't they just wait a year until they can make the rest of the phone bendable and" }, { "start": 3620, "end": 3623, "text": " then show us something really impressive." }, { "start": 3623, "end": 3626.68, "text": " You know, that is a good point you raised Chris and it's something I was thinking of" }, { "start": 3626.68, "end": 3631.72, "text": " with regards to smart watches and I think Apple, Microsoft, Google, the big companies" }, { "start": 3631.72, "end": 3634.9199999999996, "text": " that are holding off on their smart watches, the ones that we keep hearing rumors that" }, { "start": 3634.9199999999996, "end": 3637.3199999999997, "text": " they're building one but they're not releasing one." }, { "start": 3637.3199999999997, "end": 3641.7799999999997, "text": " I think they're doing the right thing because there is a risk right now that people will" }, { "start": 3641.7799999999997, "end": 3646.6, "text": " see smart watches and they'll get burned by the fact that they all pretty much suck apart" }, { "start": 3646.6, "end": 3651.7999999999997, "text": " from the Pebble and then the whole category kind of just picks up a terrible reputation" }, { "start": 3651.8, "end": 3657.1600000000003, "text": " and now there's kind of that risk with these flexible devices." }, { "start": 3657.1600000000003, "end": 3662.28, "text": " If they all seem like gimmicks, if they all seem like terrible ideas and just engineering" }, { "start": 3662.28, "end": 3667.96, "text": " demos, the next time one comes out it might not get the proper reception that it deserves" }, { "start": 3667.96, "end": 3673.04, "text": " because somebody might actually make something useful out of the technology." }, { "start": 3673.04, "end": 3678.52, "text": " So are you blaming Samsung for tanking the smart watch market before it began?" }, { "start": 3678.52, "end": 3679.52, "text": " And Sony." }, { "start": 3679.52, "end": 3685.24, "text": " So I would say smart watch too from Sony, it's atrocious." }, { "start": 3685.24, "end": 3689.68, "text": " Yeah I had the first one, the live whatever it was called." }, { "start": 3689.68, "end": 3690.68, "text": " Live view." }, { "start": 3690.68, "end": 3693.96, "text": " Yeah live view, it was a heartbreaker." }, { "start": 3693.96, "end": 3694.96, "text": " Really bad." }, { "start": 3694.96, "end": 3696.84, "text": " It's a world of hurt." }, { "start": 3696.84, "end": 3700.12, "text": " You know who's not a heartbreaker?" }, { "start": 3700.12, "end": 3701.12, "text": " This is a terrible transition." }, { "start": 3701.12, "end": 3707.2, "text": " Chris, talk to us about Amignan Clyburn, sounds like you wrote a really good story about her" }, { "start": 3707.2, "end": 3711.3999999999996, "text": " and I just want to have us all thank her together." }, { "start": 3711.3999999999996, "end": 3716.3999999999996, "text": " Yes we all owe our livelihoods to this amazing woman." }, { "start": 3716.3999999999996, "end": 3717.3999999999996, "text": " No I don't." }, { "start": 3717.3999999999996, "end": 3722.16, "text": " Look, no even you Vlad, even though you are not an American citizen." }, { "start": 3722.16, "end": 3724.52, "text": " We should say who she is for people who don't know." }, { "start": 3724.52, "end": 3731.8799999999997, "text": " So Amignan Clyburn was the interim chairwoman of the FCC for a span of about five and a" }, { "start": 3731.88, "end": 3740.48, "text": " half, six months between the end of Julius Genachowski's tenure and the beginning of" }, { "start": 3740.48, "end": 3743.6, "text": " Tom Wheeler's who was just confirmed yesterday." }, { "start": 3743.6, "end": 3749.2400000000002, "text": " No that's not true, he was confirmed last week but he was sworn in yesterday." }, { "start": 3749.2400000000002, "end": 3752.48, "text": " And she was previously a commissioner." }, { "start": 3752.48, "end": 3754.6400000000003, "text": " There are three people on the commission." }, { "start": 3754.6400000000003, "end": 3759.1600000000003, "text": " There is, oh what is her name?" }, { "start": 3759.1600000000003, "end": 3761.48, "text": " Hold on I'm getting it." }, { "start": 3761.48, "end": 3762.48, "text": " It doesn't matter." }, { "start": 3762.48, "end": 3763.48, "text": " Jessica Rosenworcel." }, { "start": 3763.48, "end": 3767.44, "text": " No, no, no it does and I'll tell you why it matters Dieter." }, { "start": 3767.44, "end": 3773.68, "text": " Because Jessica Rosenworcel who is a member of the three person commission that the FCC" }, { "start": 3773.68, "end": 3777.76, "text": " is composed of is the sister of the lead singer for Guster." }, { "start": 3777.76, "end": 3782.52, "text": " So I just want everybody to know that." }, { "start": 3782.52, "end": 3784.66, "text": " This is a true story, you can look it up." }, { "start": 3784.66, "end": 3793.72, "text": " So there's Rosenworcel, there's Clyburn and there's Ajit Pai." }, { "start": 3793.72, "end": 3795.7999999999997, "text": " All of whom were appointed by Obama." }, { "start": 3795.7999999999997, "end": 3801.52, "text": " Anyway long story short, she was temporarily put into the position of being the chairperson" }, { "start": 3801.52, "end": 3808.42, "text": " to fill in and she just accomplished a ridiculous amount in her very brief tenure." }, { "start": 3808.42, "end": 3814.7200000000003, "text": " Generally speaking the FCC is one of the more bureaucratically challenged organizations" }, { "start": 3814.7200000000003, "end": 3816.44, "text": " in the federal government." }, { "start": 3816.44, "end": 3819.76, "text": " They tend to take years to get anything done." }, { "start": 3819.76, "end": 3825, "text": " And if you look back over Genachowski's tenure, really what he did, I mean look, I can't take" }, { "start": 3825, "end": 3831.52, "text": " a lot away from the guy because you know wireless broadband use exploded and he had a number" }, { "start": 3831.52, "end": 3833.16, "text": " of really important initiatives." }, { "start": 3833.16, "end": 3836.36, "text": " But at the end of the day the one thing that sticks out in my mind that he accomplished" }, { "start": 3836.36, "end": 3841.32, "text": " was putting the ax in the ATTT mobile deal, right?" }, { "start": 3841.32, "end": 3850.2200000000003, "text": " In the six month span that Clyburn was in office, she basically fired up two new bands" }, { "start": 3850.2200000000003, "end": 3852.96, "text": " of Spectrum and we all know how rare that is." }, { "start": 3852.96, "end": 3855.3, "text": " Like Spectrum never frees up." }, { "start": 3855.3, "end": 3861.84, "text": " She freed up two bands, well she didn't personally free them up but she like launched the rule" }, { "start": 3861.84, "end": 3864.2000000000003, "text": " making that happens before the auction." }, { "start": 3864.2, "end": 3873.24, "text": " She signed the enormous Sprint clear wire soft bank deal which had been sitting on her" }, { "start": 3873.24, "end": 3874.3999999999996, "text": " plate for approval." }, { "start": 3874.3999999999996, "end": 3879.7999999999997, "text": " So she pushed that through which ultimately led to Sprint being able to launch this Spark" }, { "start": 3879.7999999999997, "end": 3883.16, "text": " thing which Dieter will be talking about in a minute." }, { "start": 3883.16, "end": 3886, "text": " And yes you will, you will." }, { "start": 3886, "end": 3896.4, "text": " And she pushed through some legislation on prison long distance rates which had been" }, { "start": 3896.4, "end": 3902.84, "text": " a surprisingly like big issue that had been like going on for a decade where like basically" }, { "start": 3902.84, "end": 3908.6, "text": " what was happening was there are these monopoly providers in prisons that just completely" }, { "start": 3908.6, "end": 3911.12, "text": " extort people to make phone calls." }, { "start": 3911.12, "end": 3914.44, "text": " So it can cost like several dollars just to make a connection and then several dollars" }, { "start": 3914.44, "end": 3916.04, "text": " a minute." }, { "start": 3916.04, "end": 3921.88, "text": " And you can understand how like you know not everyone that is in prison is rich so it makes" }, { "start": 3921.88, "end": 3924.44, "text": " it very difficult for people to communicate with families and so on." }, { "start": 3924.44, "end": 3928.16, "text": " That is the most politically correct thing you've ever said, not everyone in prison is" }, { "start": 3928.16, "end": 3929.16, "text": " rich." }, { "start": 3929.16, "end": 3930.66, "text": " It's true." }, { "start": 3930.66, "end": 3937.44, "text": " So she was able to push that through which had been on FCC's plate for a long, long time." }, { "start": 3937.44, "end": 3943.52, "text": " So she was just a very, very productive chairperson and I think that FCC would have been well" }, { "start": 3943.52, "end": 3948.96, "text": " positioned to permanently give her the job if that was an option." }, { "start": 3948.96, "end": 3953.08, "text": " But it's not like Obama can just say like oh wait never mind on Wheeler you can just" }, { "start": 3953.08, "end": 3954.08, "text": " keep the job." }, { "start": 3954.08, "end": 3955.08, "text": " It doesn't work that way." }, { "start": 3955.08, "end": 3957.84, "text": " She would have to be confirmed and it's a whole thing." }, { "start": 3957.84, "end": 3964.24, "text": " So now we get Tom Wheeler who is a former lobbyist for the CTIA and NACDA I think if" }, { "start": 3964.24, "end": 3965.24, "text": " I remember correctly." }, { "start": 3965.24, "end": 3966.24, "text": " Oh man." }, { "start": 3966.24, "end": 3971.88, "text": " So in other words he represented the wireless industry and the cable industry and now he" }, { "start": 3971.88, "end": 3973.32, "text": " runs the FCC." }, { "start": 3973.32, "end": 3980.48, "text": " So I think that we are probably in for a much more pragmatic and borderline consumer hostile" }, { "start": 3980.48, "end": 3987.9, "text": " reign as opposed to Clyburn's who did not come from that world and previously served" }, { "start": 3987.9, "end": 3990.92, "text": " on South Carolina's public service commission." }, { "start": 3990.92, "end": 3995.56, "text": " So anyway I've talked about the FCC for far too long." }, { "start": 3995.56, "end": 3999.84, "text": " The important thing to remember here is that you convinced me that her name wasn't pronounced" }, { "start": 3999.84, "end": 4000.84, "text": " Mignion." }, { "start": 4000.84, "end": 4003.28, "text": " Shoot, I just had it." }, { "start": 4003.28, "end": 4004.28, "text": " Mignion." }, { "start": 4004.28, "end": 4005.28, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 4005.28, "end": 4012.36, "text": " I was watching, she was on C-Span and someone just pronounced her name and I was right and" }, { "start": 4012.36, "end": 4016.6000000000004, "text": " now I believe it is." }, { "start": 4016.6000000000004, "end": 4017.6000000000004, "text": " Wait for it." }, { "start": 4017.6000000000004, "end": 4018.6000000000004, "text": " Mignion, I was right." }, { "start": 4018.6000000000004, "end": 4021.6000000000004, "text": " I was right the whole time." }, { "start": 4021.6000000000004, "end": 4025.6800000000003, "text": " I've heard it pronounced both ways." }, { "start": 4025.6800000000003, "end": 4026.6800000000003, "text": " Really?" }, { "start": 4026.6800000000003, "end": 4027.6800000000003, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 4027.6800000000003, "end": 4033.1600000000003, "text": " I just refuse to refer to somebody as a stake." }, { "start": 4033.16, "end": 4040.7999999999997, "text": " That's my core problem and when I hear Mignion I think of beef and it just gets really weird." }, { "start": 4040.7999999999997, "end": 4047, "text": " Nobody really talks about Barack Obama, just use her surname and pretend she doesn't have" }, { "start": 4047, "end": 4048, "text": " a first name." }, { "start": 4048, "end": 4049, "text": " Exactly." }, { "start": 4049, "end": 4057.48, "text": " Or we could give her a cool Top Gun style nickname like Fireball." }, { "start": 4057.48, "end": 4059.24, "text": " I have to share." }, { "start": 4059.24, "end": 4064.4399999999996, "text": " I did have a vision in my mind when Chris said that she opened up two new bands of wireless" }, { "start": 4064.4399999999996, "end": 4071.24, "text": " of like Storm from the X-Men just rising up into the sky and just working on some air" }, { "start": 4071.24, "end": 4075.3599999999997, "text": " waves and saying yes, here's some more wireless for you people." }, { "start": 4075.3599999999997, "end": 4078.3999999999996, "text": " That is exactly how it went down by the way." }, { "start": 4078.3999999999996, "end": 4084.08, "text": " So anyway, she was just unusually productive for someone who was never expected to really" }, { "start": 4084.08, "end": 4085.08, "text": " get a lot done." }, { "start": 4085.08, "end": 4086.8799999999997, "text": " She was effectively a caretaker, right?" }, { "start": 4086.88, "end": 4093.2000000000003, "text": " She was a lame duck who was just there to fill the seat until Tom Wheeler got confirmed" }, { "start": 4093.2000000000003, "end": 4095.96, "text": " and instead she ended up getting a lot done." }, { "start": 4095.96, "end": 4098.4800000000005, "text": " So kudos." }, { "start": 4098.4800000000005, "end": 4100.08, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 4100.08, "end": 4102.52, "text": " Okay, Sprint Spark." }, { "start": 4102.52, "end": 4108.34, "text": " So Sprint, they've got a whole bunch of random spectrum that they've acquired over the years" }, { "start": 4108.34, "end": 4111.4400000000005, "text": " including stuff from Clearwire and whatever else." }, { "start": 4111.44, "end": 4116.96, "text": " So they've got 800, they've got 19 and they've got 25 and stuff from the next hell." }, { "start": 4116.96, "end": 4121.5, "text": " And so they finally got everything cleared out that they can run LTE on it." }, { "start": 4121.5, "end": 4124.679999999999, "text": " So they've introduced this thing called Spark where they're claiming they can get" }, { "start": 4124.679999999999, "end": 4131.48, "text": " speeds up to 60 megabits and it can go faster than that someday in the future and they say" }, { "start": 4131.48, "end": 4137.639999999999, "text": " that they can achieve this by using all of that spectrum on a single phone and so the" }, { "start": 4137.639999999999, "end": 4139.32, "text": " radio will pick which one it needs." }, { "start": 4139.32, "end": 4142.04, "text": " So if you're in a building you'll end up with 800 but if you're outside where you" }, { "start": 4142.04, "end": 4145.759999999999, "text": " can get the faster stuff you'll get that." }, { "start": 4145.759999999999, "end": 4148.16, "text": " And that's the story with Sprint Spark." }, { "start": 4148.16, "end": 4154.5199999999995, "text": " They've launched it in a few cities and my guess is that it'll be just like Sprint" }, { "start": 4154.5199999999995, "end": 4159.82, "text": " has been for a while where there'll be like 10 people that have got amazing service and" }, { "start": 4159.82, "end": 4164.36, "text": " become Sprint fanboys for life and everybody else sort of wonders why Sprint is kind of" }, { "start": 4164.36, "end": 4165.36, "text": " crap." }, { "start": 4165.36, "end": 4172.5599999999995, "text": " That's really a really hard take but I don't know, it seems like a big promise from them" }, { "start": 4172.5599999999995, "end": 4179.2, "text": " and we've been hearing a lot of big network promises from Sprint for a long time and if" }, { "start": 4179.2, "end": 4183.5199999999995, "text": " the WiMax thing didn't already hurt their credibility there, like everything that's" }, { "start": 4183.5199999999995, "end": 4189, "text": " happened since then certainly has and they just need to start delivering and they need" }, { "start": 4189, "end": 4192.28, "text": " to start delivering really fast." }, { "start": 4192.28, "end": 4196.36, "text": " And hopefully they can, hopefully SoftBank is going to dump some money in there and I" }, { "start": 4196.36, "end": 4200.599999999999, "text": " can go back to thinking Dan Hesse is the most trustworthy guy in mobile but he's not because" }, { "start": 4200.599999999999, "end": 4207.179999999999, "text": " crazy Guy McGee over at T-Mobile is." }, { "start": 4207.179999999999, "end": 4210.36, "text": " That's a good way of putting it, yes." }, { "start": 4210.36, "end": 4212.92, "text": " Also Dan Hesse doesn't understand neutrality." }, { "start": 4212.92, "end": 4216.96, "text": " That's right, yes." }, { "start": 4216.96, "end": 4228.8, "text": " I will say that Sprint is in the best position now, a better position now than it's really" }, { "start": 4228.8, "end": 4232.96, "text": " ever been in the past five years in order to do these network enhancements now that" }, { "start": 4232.96, "end": 4237.44, "text": " it has SoftBank's bankrolling and everything like that and the support behind it and it" }, { "start": 4237.44, "end": 4241.32, "text": " got the approval from the FCC that was so desperately needed." }, { "start": 4241.32, "end": 4250.2, "text": " Just as Nexus 5's camera is the best Nexus camera ever, Sprint is the best camera ever." }, { "start": 4250.2, "end": 4252.84, "text": " Silver linings, Peter." }, { "start": 4252.84, "end": 4256.16, "text": " We're peddling hope." }, { "start": 4256.16, "end": 4257.16, "text": " It is a long game." }, { "start": 4257.16, "end": 4263.28, "text": " It's like most people won't see the benefits of this product until late 2014 at the earliest" }, { "start": 4263.28, "end": 4264.44, "text": " assuming they see it ever." }, { "start": 4264.44, "end": 4271.839999999999, "text": " So Sprint really has to come through on its promises and really just needs to deliver." }, { "start": 4271.839999999999, "end": 4276.48, "text": " If they can pull this off it would be amazing because we're talking about speeds that make" }, { "start": 4276.48, "end": 4279.2, "text": " my cable broadband look kind of pokey, right?" }, { "start": 4279.2, "end": 4280.2, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 4280.2, "end": 4283, "text": " What kind of bogus cable modem do you have?" }, { "start": 4283, "end": 4285.599999999999, "text": " I can get 100 megabit in Chicago." }, { "start": 4285.599999999999, "end": 4289.919999999999, "text": " Well, I'm getting files soon so don't you worry about me." }, { "start": 4289.919999999999, "end": 4294.24, "text": " I get 100 megabit in the burbs, man." }, { "start": 4294.24, "end": 4298.48, "text": " Anyway, it would be a huge deal if they can pull it off and they've got a bunch of devices." }, { "start": 4298.48, "end": 4302.639999999999, "text": " They teased the Nexus 5 at this event because it was the day before and they had it in their" }, { "start": 4302.639999999999, "end": 4303.639999999999, "text": " little thing." }, { "start": 4303.639999999999, "end": 4310.16, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 4310.16, "end": 4315.12, "text": " The other thing that happened was if you're talking about speeds that fast, at some point" }, { "start": 4315.12, "end": 4318.48, "text": " you're like, well, you're starting to look like a standard broadband provider." }, { "start": 4318.48, "end": 4322.5199999999995, "text": " Are you going to do the things that standard broadband providers do which is charge for" }, { "start": 4322.52, "end": 4324.400000000001, "text": " different tiers of service or whatever?" }, { "start": 4324.400000000001, "end": 4329.72, "text": " Danny says no, they're not going to change their unlimited plan." }, { "start": 4329.72, "end": 4331.6, "text": " All that's going to stay the same." }, { "start": 4331.6, "end": 4337.6, "text": " But there was sort of a, ho, ho, ho, I don't understand why anybody would believe in that" }, { "start": 4337.6, "end": 4338.6, "text": " neutrality." }, { "start": 4338.6, "end": 4340.56, "text": " It doesn't make any sense to me at all." }, { "start": 4340.56, "end": 4342.8, "text": " You're allowed to charge more for first class seats." }, { "start": 4342.8, "end": 4346.4400000000005, "text": " Why can't you charge more for first class internet service?" }, { "start": 4346.44, "end": 4352.96, "text": " Look, you're never going to get anyone in the wireless industry to tell you that they" }, { "start": 4352.96, "end": 4354.799999999999, "text": " want to be regulated more heavily." }, { "start": 4354.799999999999, "end": 4360.12, "text": " It's just not going to happen." }, { "start": 4360.12, "end": 4364.4, "text": " On one level, I understand what Dan is saying." }, { "start": 4364.4, "end": 4368.879999999999, "text": " Hesse, not Sefer, just to clarify." }, { "start": 4368.879999999999, "end": 4370.16, "text": " Chris never understands what I'm saying." }, { "start": 4370.16, "end": 4374.679999999999, "text": " No, I never understand what Dan is saying." }, { "start": 4374.68, "end": 4379.4400000000005, "text": " I understand what he's saying from the perspective that I do think that wireless carriers should" }, { "start": 4379.4400000000005, "end": 4385.4400000000005, "text": " be allowed to investigate the possibility of charging different monthly fees for different" }, { "start": 4385.4400000000005, "end": 4386.4400000000005, "text": " speed tiers." }, { "start": 4386.4400000000005, "end": 4388.56, "text": " I would be okay with that." }, { "start": 4388.56, "end": 4391.52, "text": " Just like I'm okay with it on my cable modem." }, { "start": 4391.52, "end": 4392.76, "text": " It makes sense to me." }, { "start": 4392.76, "end": 4394.320000000001, "text": " I pay more for faster service." }, { "start": 4394.320000000001, "end": 4396.200000000001, "text": " Fine, that's totally okay." }, { "start": 4396.200000000001, "end": 4404, "text": " But when you start putting up arbitrary barriers around services or protocols, that's where" }, { "start": 4404, "end": 4410.52, "text": " you start getting into a really nasty gray area that the FCC so far has refused to regulate" }, { "start": 4410.52, "end": 4411.84, "text": " more heavily on." }, { "start": 4411.84, "end": 4416.54, "text": " If you read all of their net neutrality language throughout the years, they're very, very careful" }, { "start": 4416.54, "end": 4421.76, "text": " to carve out an exception for wireless." }, { "start": 4421.76, "end": 4425, "text": " That was one thing that Clyburn didn't change." }, { "start": 4425, "end": 4429.52, "text": " I'm sure there are many good reasons for it, not the least of which is the fact that there" }, { "start": 4429.52, "end": 4433.92, "text": " are just too many lobbyist hands in the pot." }, { "start": 4433.92, "end": 4439.16, "text": " Unfortunately there are no strong regulations preventing that kind of nonsense from happening." }, { "start": 4439.16, "end": 4441.4400000000005, "text": " But also these analogies are just bogus." }, { "start": 4441.4400000000005, "end": 4447.64, "text": " This is kind of like all the people making the argument comparing things like US government" }, { "start": 4447.64, "end": 4451.8, "text": " debt to household debt and whatever." }, { "start": 4451.8, "end": 4456.4800000000005, "text": " The way that you treat and you manage your debt in your household, which is like a few" }, { "start": 4456.4800000000005, "end": 4462.96, "text": " thousand dollars or whatever, versus the way that you treat and manage trillions of dollars" }, { "start": 4462.96, "end": 4470.28, "text": " in US debt and being the world's reserve currency and all of that, those are just completely" }, { "start": 4470.28, "end": 4471.6, "text": " not analogous things." }, { "start": 4471.6, "end": 4474.14, "text": " They just kind of look the same superficially." }, { "start": 4474.14, "end": 4479.68, "text": " This is where Dan has his comparison like, well if we offer such and such service, it's" }, { "start": 4479.68, "end": 4483.16, "text": " fine for us to charge a different price, etc." }, { "start": 4483.16, "end": 4489.64, "text": " We're just private individuals not supplying a fundamentally important lifeline to people." }, { "start": 4489.64, "end": 4494.68, "text": " Admittedly it's print so it's not that much of a lifeline because there aren't that many" }, { "start": 4494.68, "end": 4498.320000000001, "text": " customers but still, it's a vital service." }, { "start": 4498.320000000001, "end": 4505.200000000001, "text": " You can't just treat it like it's some luxury that people pick and choose." }, { "start": 4505.200000000001, "end": 4510.04, "text": " I agree with Chris, different prices for different levels of service, yeah fine, but you shouldn't" }, { "start": 4510.04, "end": 4513.4800000000005, "text": " be prioritizing traffic." }, { "start": 4513.4800000000005, "end": 4515.4400000000005, "text": " That's it." }, { "start": 4515.4400000000005, "end": 4519.02, "text": " That also is it I believe for the Virgin 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[ { "start": 0, "end": 6, "text": " Last week Google introduced us to Android 4.4 KitKat and the new Nexus 5." }, { "start": 6, "end": 9.3, "text": " Now what's interesting about both of these things is neither one blows the doors off" }, { "start": 9.3, "end": 10.3, "text": " of anything design-wise." }, { "start": 10.3, "end": 12.6, "text": " They're both relatively conservative." }, { "start": 12.6, "end": 17.44, "text": " The design of the phone is pretty simple and the feature updates they included in KitKat" }, { "start": 17.44, "end": 19.740000000000002, "text": " are kind of minor when you look at it." }, { "start": 19.740000000000002, "end": 21.78, "text": " But for Google that's actually not a problem." }, { "start": 21.78, "end": 25.3, "text": " They really think that they nailed the core structure of Android with Ice Cream Sandwich" }, { "start": 25.3, "end": 27.82, "text": " and ever since then it's been about refinement." }, { "start": 27.82, "end": 35.7, "text": " Since 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"end": 94.48, "text": " In the home screen we made the icons bigger." }, { "start": 94.48, "end": 96.88000000000001, "text": " You know, nobody's going to notice." }, { "start": 96.88000000000001, "end": 97.88000000000001, "text": " Oh, I know." }, { "start": 97.88000000000001, "end": 98.88000000000001, "text": " That's great, I love it." }, { "start": 98.88000000000001, "end": 101.56, "text": " This is why I love talking to you guys." }, { "start": 101.56, "end": 107.2, "text": " Also notice that you guys got rid of the little weird tabs in the app drawer." }, { "start": 107.2, "end": 109.68, "text": " What was the thinking, you just wanted to simplify it?" }, { "start": 109.68, "end": 113.66000000000001, "text": " Yeah, again, we just want to make it, if you're going to add something from the app drawer" }, { "start": 113.66, "end": 117.39999999999999, "text": " you just make that app drawer experience all about apps." }, { "start": 117.39999999999999, "end": 121.08, "text": " The 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[ { "start": 0, "end": 4.68, "text": " It's Monday, November 4th, 2013. I'm Addi Robertson, and although Katy Perry might have" }, { "start": 4.68, "end": 9.46, "text": " the most Twitter followers, she has nothing on the four-square ambassador of Arby's." }, { "start": 9.46, "end": 10.82, "text": " This is 90 seconds on the verge." }, { "start": 10.82, "end": 15.42, "text": " BlackBerry CEO Thorsten Heinz is out. The company has raised $1 billion from a group" }, { "start": 15.42, "end": 19.96, "text": " of investors, including Fairfax Financial, who was originally supposed to buy the company" }, { "start": 19.96, "end": 24.66, "text": " outright. This is no longer the case. Heinz will be replaced by interim CEO John Chen." }, { "start": 24.66, "end": 28.240000000000002, "text": " Chen says that despite his growing losses, he has no intention of shutting down BlackBerry's" }, { "start": 28.24, "end": 31.919999999999998, "text": " handset division, and he believes the company can stage a turnaround." }, { "start": 31.919999999999998, "end": 34.04, "text": " Chen isn't the only new leader in town." }, { "start": 34.04, "end": 38.28, "text": " Tom Wheeler was sworn in this morning as the new chair of the FCC. He replaced his interim" }, { "start": 38.28, "end": 43.4, "text": " chair Mignon Clyburn, who had a small but ridiculously productive six-month stint. Clyburn" }, { "start": 43.4, "end": 47.599999999999994, "text": " signed off on Sprint buying Clearwire and SoftBank buying Sprint. But don't worry about" }, { "start": 47.599999999999994, "end": 51.480000000000004, "text": " Clyburn. She'll stay on the FCC's board as a commissioner until 2017." }, { "start": 51.480000000000004, "end": 55, "text": " And finally, you'd better see the new Thor movie if you want to understand exactly what's" }, { "start": 55, "end": 56.82, "text": " going on in Marvel's TV show." }, { "start": 56.82, "end": 61.08, "text": " The November 19th episode of ABC's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is set to take place in the" }, { "start": 61.08, "end": 65.68, "text": " aftermath of Thor The Dark World, which will hit U.S. theaters this Friday. The move is" }, { "start": 65.68, "end": 70.04, "text": " similar to Marvel's strategy of using one film to set up or promote another, but unlike" }, { "start": 70.04, "end": 74.48, "text": " the film, it doesn't appear that Chris Hemsworth or Natalie Portman will be making cameos on" }, { "start": 74.48, "end": 79, "text": " the small screen. Meanwhile, Al Roker will not be making a Today show crossover appearance" }, { "start": 79, "end": 80.68, "text": " in the upcoming Hunger Games movie." }, { "start": 80.68, "end": 85.28, "text": " And that's it for today's top stories. Coming up tomorrow, I continue to try to get Monster" }, { "start": 85.28, "end": 88.28, "text": " Mash out of my head. It's November 4th already, brain!" } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 4.62, "text": " I'm Neelai with The Verge, and this is the new iPad Air." }, { "start": 4.62, "end": 8.92, "text": " The Air is a complete redesign of the full-size iPad, after three generations of the iconic" }, { "start": 8.92, "end": 10.48, "text": " iPad 2 design." }, { "start": 10.48, "end": 15.040000000000001, "text": " It looks and feels exactly like a large iPad mini, with the same chamfered aluminum frame." }, { "start": 15.040000000000001, "end": 18.48, "text": " But while this design might be familiar, it's still surprising in person." }, { "start": 18.48, "end": 22.8, "text": " It weighs just one pound, and it's far narrower than previous large iPads thanks to its smaller" }, { "start": 22.8, "end": 24.28, "text": " side bezels." }, { "start": 24.28, "end": 27.98, "text": " All that adds up to an astonishing reduction in size and weight when you hold it." }, { "start": 27.98, "end": 32.12, "text": " The hardware feels incredibly premium, but basically 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LG was" }, { "start": 32.36, "end": 36.76, "text": " also Google's partner for last year's Nexus 4, and there are some similarities, though" }, { "start": 36.76, "end": 41.4, "text": " it's a pretty different device. From a hardware perspective, the phone is pretty stacked." }, { "start": 41.4, "end": 47.120000000000005, "text": " It has a 5-inch 1080p display, Snapdragon 800 processor, 2GB of RAM, and 16 or 32GB" }, { "start": 47.120000000000005, "end": 52.68, "text": " of storage. The display, first and foremost, is gorgeous. It's big, bright, accurate," }, { "start": 52.68, "end": 58.06, "text": " and incredibly crisp, although it does appear ever so slightly washed out compared to an" }, { "start": 58.06, "end": 62.6, "text": " AMOLED display or even the iPhone's retina screen. A lot of what Google is doing with" }, { "start": 62.6, "end": 67.53999999999999, "text": " KitKat is designed for big displays like this, and the Nexus 5 shows it off perfectly. The" }, { "start": 67.53999999999999, "end": 71.8, "text": " body around the display is nice too, but it's not exactly what I'd call eye-catching. It" }, { "start": 71.8, "end": 76.1, "text": " comes in black or white, I prefer the softer, cleaner matte black version, and it's mostly" }, { "start": 76.1, "end": 80.14, "text": " just a rectangle. It's got curved sides and a more angled top and bottom, and fits really" }, { "start": 80.14, "end": 85.36, "text": " nicely in your hand, as long as you have a big hand, but it does feel better than a lot" }, { "start": 85.36, "end": 90.76, "text": " of 5-inch phones, although it is pretty big. Coming from the Moto X or the iPhone, it'll" }, { "start": 90.76, "end": 96.56, "text": " be a noticeable change. The phone is surprisingly light, though, just 130 grams and impressively" }, { "start": 96.56, "end": 101.96000000000001, "text": " thin at 8.6mm. It's made of plastic, but it still feels pretty good. I wouldn't say it's" }, { "start": 101.96000000000001, "end": 108.04, "text": " machined beautifully like an iPhone 5s or the Lumia 925, but it isn't that cheap plastic" }, { "start": 108.04, "end": 113.56, "text": " of the G2 or the Galaxy S4. Also, thankfully, it doesn't have the problems of the Nexus" }, { "start": 113.56, "end": 118.96000000000001, "text": " 4, namely the glass back, which broke really easily, and was extremely slippery on flat" }, { "start": 118.96000000000001, "end": 123.68, "text": " surfaces. Google really picked its spots when it came to making design choices that you'd" }, { "start": 123.68, "end": 127.96000000000001, "text": " notice, for instance the big ring around the camera lens, and the white speaker grill on" }, { "start": 127.96000000000001, "end": 132.88, "text": " the otherwise black front of the white model. Those details, plus the carved Nexus logo" }, { "start": 132.88, "end": 137.32, "text": " on the back, are really the only indications that this is something other than a standard" }, { "start": 137.32, "end": 141.56, "text": " slab smartphone. Personally, I like the clean lines and the simple design, but it would" }, { "start": 141.56, "end": 146.5, "text": " have been nice to see a little more creativity, though maybe the do-it-yourself Moto X colors" }, { "start": 146.5, "end": 150.98, "text": " in Apple's gold iPhone have spoiled me. The design's real purpose, though, is just to" }, { "start": 150.98, "end": 155.95999999999998, "text": " get out of the way, to show off KitKat, the latest version of Android. It may just be" }, { "start": 155.95999999999998, "end": 160.32, "text": " a point update, but there's actually a lot going on. 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Things have been" }, { "start": 195.92, "end": 199.51999999999998, "text": " lightened, tightened, and flattened in all the right places, making this latest incarnation" }, { "start": 199.51999999999998, "end": 204.32, "text": " of the ever-evolving software feel really fresh. And it's not just cosmetic." }, { "start": 204.32, "end": 208.56, "text": " Google Search is all over KitKat, more than ever. Google Now is a left swipe away from" }, { "start": 208.56, "end": 212.28, "text": " your home screen as opposed to the gesture that had brought it up before, and all you" }, { "start": 212.28, "end": 216.76, "text": " have to say is OK Google to start doing a search when you're on the home screen. The" }, { "start": 216.76, "end": 220.72, "text": " voice-activated features aren't nearly as powerful or useful as the Moto X, but they're" }, { "start": 220.72, "end": 225.51999999999998, "text": " a nice touch here and definitely an improvement to what you could do with Android before this" }, { "start": 225.51999999999998, "end": 226.51999999999998, "text": " version." }, { "start": 226.51999999999998, "end": 229.48, "text": " You can now search keywords right within the dialer of the phone, which is sort of like" }, { "start": 229.48, "end": 234.68, "text": " having a phonebook in your phonebook. It's pretty handy. There's a new unified file picker," }, { "start": 234.68, "end": 239.44, "text": " and there's a unified way to print from your phone or even control your TV. Android is" }, { "start": 239.44, "end": 244.44, "text": " tighter, simpler, and more unified everywhere, and though the general UI hasn't changed dramatically," }, { "start": 244.44, "end": 249.07999999999998, "text": " the visual tweaks and functional additions continue Android down a really smart path." }, { "start": 249.07999999999998, "end": 253.16, "text": " The new Hangouts could be viewed as the flagship feature of KitKat. It now integrates SMS," }, { "start": 253.16, "end": 257.72, "text": " and it's the default messaging app for Android, which means you can send texts, instant messages," }, { "start": 257.72, "end": 262.72, "text": " voice calls, and video calls all from the same place. It's a great idea, but a really" }, { "start": 262.72, "end": 267.15999999999997, "text": " clunky execution. If you're talking to someone via Hangouts and then you text them via SMS," }, { "start": 267.15999999999997, "end": 271.78, "text": " it starts an entirely new separate conversation. I got stopped up a few times when I was testing" }, { "start": 271.78, "end": 276.96, "text": " the phone just trying to figure out what was going on, where my conversations were happening." }, { "start": 276.96, "end": 281.91999999999996, "text": " Coupled with the fact that Google still doesn't group separate accounts into a single stream," }, { "start": 281.91999999999996, "end": 286.2, "text": " it makes things really puzzling at times. Hangout issues aside, KitKat is a really solid" }, { "start": 286.2, "end": 290.4, "text": " improvement, and the Nexus 5 shows it off well. KitKat's also designed to be used on" }, { "start": 290.4, "end": 295, "text": " lower memory devices, but that's not exactly a problem here. With the Snapdragon 800 and" }, { "start": 295, "end": 299.55999999999995, "text": " 2 gigs of RAM, the phone screams. It plays heavy games well, opens and closes, and switches" }, { "start": 299.56, "end": 303.58, "text": " between apps with no lag. And while there are still some minor scrolling issues when" }, { "start": 303.58, "end": 307.32, "text": " you're trying to tear through a long page, particularly in Chrome, that seems more to" }, { "start": 307.32, "end": 311.52, "text": " do with buffering than it does actual graphics performance. In fact, a big deal has been" }, { "start": 311.52, "end": 315.08, "text": " made out of the Android scrolling problem, but nine times out of 10, the Nexus 5 feels" }, { "start": 315.08, "end": 319.96, "text": " considerably faster than most devices I've used, and that includes the iPhone 5s. And" }, { "start": 319.96, "end": 324, "text": " while Google still can't match Apple's best-in-class touch response times, the difference, in my" }, { "start": 324, "end": 328.84000000000003, "text": " opinion, is negligible. All of the software improvements coupled with the strong hardware" }, { "start": 328.84, "end": 334.11999999999995, "text": " of the Nexus 5 make it a really fun phone to play with. On brass tack stuff, call quality" }, { "start": 334.11999999999995, "end": 339.32, "text": " is solid, though the speaker could be a little bit louder. Even cupping my hand around it" }, { "start": 339.32, "end": 344.02, "text": " didn't produce sounds that were loud enough to hear outdoors. I think it needs to be pointed" }, { "start": 344.02, "end": 350.15999999999997, "text": " out that data is massively improved on this phone over the Nexus 4, thanks to the merciful" }, { "start": 350.15999999999997, "end": 356.52, "text": " addition of LTE out of the box for AT&T, T-Mobile, and Sprint here in the US. Google wanted to" }, { "start": 356.52, "end": 361.32, "text": " make a phone that shows off Android, and I think it succeeded. But in doing so, it may" }, { "start": 361.32, "end": 366.12, "text": " have overlooked two of the biggest requirements of making a truly great smartphone, namely," }, { "start": 366.12, "end": 371.24, "text": " a good camera and consistent battery life. During my time testing the Nexus 5, battery" }, { "start": 371.24, "end": 375.59999999999997, "text": " life was all over the place. The first couple of days I used it, I only saw eight or nine" }, { "start": 375.59999999999997, "end": 380.88, "text": " hours before I had to put it back on a charger. The following days, it got better, 10 and" }, { "start": 380.88, "end": 386.35999999999996, "text": " even 16 on one day, but those are pretty inconsistent numbers. And then there's the camera, which" }, { "start": 386.36, "end": 391, "text": " was a problem with the Nexus 4 and is a problem again here. Now, it seems to me that the 8" }, { "start": 391, "end": 395.56, "text": " megapixel shooter is capable of taking really beautiful pictures in the perfect setting." }, { "start": 395.56, "end": 401.68, "text": " But in so many settings, it's a huge step down from something like an iPhone 5s, a Lumia" }, { "start": 401.68, "end": 406.32, "text": " 1020, or even the Moto X. It takes photos and video with too little contrast, too little" }, { "start": 406.32, "end": 411.28000000000003, "text": " saturation and too little color when you can get the camera to focus at all. Low light" }, { "start": 411.28000000000003, "end": 415.40000000000003, "text": " performance isn't exactly poor, but getting it to snap the picture you want at the moment" }, { "start": 415.4, "end": 419.56, "text": " you want will drive you nuts. The camera app can be absurdly slow to focus and even slow" }, { "start": 419.56, "end": 424.23999999999995, "text": " to launch in the first place, which makes the Nexus 5 as a camera an exercise in frustration." }, { "start": 424.23999999999995, "end": 429.91999999999996, "text": " It instills basically no confidence, so you'll find yourself just expecting to take a bad" }, { "start": 429.91999999999996, "end": 434.23999999999995, "text": " photo. Side by side with almost any other flagship phone, its camera doesn't hold up." }, { "start": 434.23999999999995, "end": 438.96, "text": " Google says that software, not hardware, is to blame for the weak performance, but that" }, { "start": 438.96, "end": 442.52, "text": " doesn't change the fact that out of the box using the camera on this phone almost guarantees" }, { "start": 442.52, "end": 447.53999999999996, "text": " poor shots, which is ironic for a device which Google's marketing as a picture taking, never" }, { "start": 447.53999999999996, "end": 452.88, "text": " miss a moment phone. I spoke to reps at Google and they said that fixes are coming and that" }, { "start": 452.88, "end": 456.96, "text": " the focus time and low light performance will improve, but there's no word on how soon that'll" }, { "start": 456.96, "end": 461.56, "text": " happen or how good these tweaks will be. And if you buy this thing right now, the camera" }, { "start": 461.56, "end": 466.56, "text": " performance leaves a lot to be desired. If Google is really serious about the Nexus program," }, { "start": 466.56, "end": 470.15999999999997, "text": " it needs to build more than just a great way to hold the latest version of Android in your" }, { "start": 470.16, "end": 474.52000000000004, "text": " hand. It needs to build the best all around smartphone, one that actually competes for" }, { "start": 474.52000000000004, "end": 479.72, "text": " the hearts and minds of customers who would otherwise buy an iPhone or a Galaxy S4. Google" }, { "start": 479.72, "end": 484, "text": " has gotten really close with the Nexus 5 and if it can fix some of the problems that I've" }, { "start": 484, "end": 504.08, "text": " seen with the phone, particularly the camera, it could be there, but it's not there yet." } ]

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[ { "start": 0, "end": 7.04, "text": " So thank you very much for listening and I wish you and yours all the best on this upcoming weekend" }, { "start": 7.04, "end": 10.040000000000001, "text": " only the most joyous and" }, { "start": 10.040000000000001, "end": 14.040000000000001, "text": " and all playful celebrations should be had." }, { "start": 14.040000000000001, "end": 19.04, "text": " As always I wish you and yours all the best for the upcoming weekend and week ahead." }, { "start": 19.04, "end": 23.04, "text": " And until then I wish you and yours the very best for the coming days and weeks ahead." }, { "start": 23.04, "end": 27.04, "text": " The very best over this holiday weekend. It's not a holiday weekend, that doesn't matter." }, { "start": 27.04, "end": 28.04, "text": " Why do you sound like Vincent Price?" }, { "start": 28.04, "end": 32.04, "text": " I wish all of you in your homes happiness." }, { "start": 32.04, "end": 34.04, "text": " The very best in the upcoming days and weeks." }, { "start": 34.04, "end": 40.04, "text": " The upcoming days and weeks ahead as you live out your final moments here on the planet." }, { "start": 40.04, "end": 43.04, "text": " And as always I wish you and your family a great weekend alone." }, { "start": 43.04, "end": 48.04, "text": " You know, I hope that you enjoy a safe and secure weekend in your homes." }, { "start": 49.04, "end": 52.04, "text": " I'm sure there's nothing to fear in your home this weekend." }, { "start": 52.04, "end": 57.04, "text": " I would not, if I were you, I would not leave any of your doors or windows unlocked this weekend." }, { "start": 57.04, "end": 60.04, "text": " Because it could cause horrible danger to your family." }, { "start": 60.04, "end": 65.03999999999999, "text": " You know, whatever you do, don't turn out your bedroom lights this weekend." }, { "start": 67.03999999999999, "end": 71.03999999999999, "text": " And as always I wish you and yours the very best for a happy and healthy weekend" }, { "start": 71.03999999999999, "end": 75.03999999999999, "text": " where nothing horrible will happen to you or your family, I'm sure." }, { "start": 75.03999999999999, "end": 80.03999999999999, "text": " You know, I think, don't worry about what's in the back seat of your car. It's probably nothing." }, { "start": 80.03999999999999, "end": 84.03999999999999, "text": " All the best for what will be a very hard and upsetting weekend." }, { "start": 84.04, "end": 89.04, "text": " We'll be back next week and as always I wish you and your family the very best in this awful time." }, { "start": 89.04, "end": 93.04, "text": " The very best in this troubling holiday week." }, { "start": 93.04, "end": 96.04, "text": " No matter what happens to your family, I'm sure you'll be alright." }, { "start": 96.04, "end": 102.04, "text": " And as always, your family is in danger and there's nothing you can do about it, but I'm sure everything will end up alright." }, { "start": 102.04, "end": 104.04, "text": " So sorry about your family." }, { "start": 104.04, "end": 108.04, "text": " And as always I wish you and your beautiful new family all the best." }, { "start": 108.04, "end": 111.04, "text": " And until then, I think we're all going to be alright." }, { "start": 111.04, "end": 115.04, "text": " All the best in what can only be described as a nightmare howl ride." }, { "start": 115.04, "end": 117.04, "text": " You know, enjoy your family while you got them." }, { "start": 117.04, "end": 118.04, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 118.04, "end": 124.04, "text": " And that's it. I wish you and your family all the very best in this, for this weekend and beyond." }, { "start": 124.04, "end": 130.04000000000002, "text": " I wish you and your family all the best." }, { "start": 130.04000000000002, "end": 132.04000000000002, "text": " Rock and load." }, { "start": 132.04, "end": 142.04, "text": " Rock and roll." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 5.5600000000000005, "text": " It's Friday, November 1st, 2013. I'm Adrienne Jeffries, champion rugby player. Rugby being" }, { "start": 5.5600000000000005, "end": 9.9, "text": " the game I made up where I fall asleep on my rug while eating ramen. This is 90 seconds" }, { "start": 9.9, "end": 10.9, "text": " on the verge." }, { "start": 10.9, "end": 15.5, "text": " Apple's iPad Air is now on sale. The 9.7 inch tablet, which is both thinner and lighter" }, { "start": 15.5, "end": 21, "text": " than previous models, is available in both silver and space gray. Pricing starts at $499" }, { "start": 21, "end": 25.28, "text": " for the 16 gig Wi-Fi only version. Meanwhile, Apple's iPad mini with retina display is" }, { "start": 25.28, "end": 29.76, "text": " yet to receive an official release date other than Apple saying, quote, later in November." }, { "start": 29.76, "end": 33.72, "text": " Finishing up that last round of Angry Birds Star Wars won't be so difficult anymore." }, { "start": 33.72, "end": 37.68, "text": " The FAA is officially allowing the use of some electronics during takeoff and landing." }, { "start": 37.68, "end": 41.1, "text": " Provided the device is in airplane mode and held or placed in the seat back pocket during" }, { "start": 41.1, "end": 44.800000000000004, "text": " the initial takeoff and landing, passengers will no longer be told to turn off electronic" }, { "start": 44.800000000000004, "end": 45.8, "text": " devices." }, { "start": 45.8, "end": 49.72, "text": " Airlines will first need to submit a plan to manage electronics use before the new rules" }, { "start": 49.72, "end": 53.760000000000005, "text": " can be implemented. While the new rules weren't expected to go into effect until next year," }, { "start": 53.760000000000005, "end": 57.08, "text": " the FAA is now saying we'll see broad changes by the holidays." }, { "start": 57.08, "end": 62.239999999999995, "text": " Lockheed Martin's iconic SR-71 Blackbird spy plane is getting a sequel. According to" }, { "start": 62.239999999999995, "end": 67, "text": " Aviation Week, the company is currently working on an SR-72 that could reach Mach 6 cruise" }, { "start": 67, "end": 71.6, "text": " flight. That's twice as fast as the SR-71, which still holds a number of aircraft speed" }, { "start": 71.6, "end": 75.64, "text": " records and was capable of outrunning a bullet. Test flights wouldn't likely begin until" }, { "start": 75.64, "end": 80.24, "text": " 2018, but the plane should fly so fast it'll land in 1998." }, { "start": 80.24, "end": 83.8, "text": " That's it for today's top stories. Coming up tomorrow, we visit an alternate universe" }, { "start": 83.8, "end": 87.6, "text": " where 90 seconds on the verge is called one and a half minutes on the verge. And there" }, { "start": 87.6, "end": 114.16, "text": " are more puns, too." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 23.76, "text": " This is the Vergecast where we discuss what's happening." }, { "start": 23.76, "end": 24.76, "text": " What is this?" }, { "start": 24.76, "end": 25.76, "text": " What is going on?" }, { "start": 25.76, "end": 26.76, "text": " What's going on with this right here?" }, { "start": 26.76, "end": 27.76, "text": " What is going on up here?" }, { "start": 27.76, "end": 28.76, "text": " What is happening?" }, { "start": 28.76, "end": 29.76, "text": " Your hair was out of control." }, { "start": 29.76, "end": 31.16, "text": " What is going on here?" }, { "start": 31.16, "end": 32.160000000000004, "text": " What's going on with my hair?" }, { "start": 32.160000000000004, "end": 33.160000000000004, "text": " What is going on?" }, { "start": 33.160000000000004, "end": 34.160000000000004, "text": " Very, very, very." }, { "start": 34.160000000000004, "end": 35.160000000000004, "text": " All honesty." }, { "start": 35.160000000000004, "end": 36.72, "text": " I can already tell I have a hair problem." }, { "start": 36.72, "end": 37.72, "text": " I've been off." }, { "start": 37.72, "end": 38.72, "text": " I've missed." }, { "start": 38.72, "end": 39.72, "text": " Oh, what is going on here?" }, { "start": 39.72, "end": 41.28, "text": " What is going on with this hair?" }, { "start": 41.28, "end": 43.64, "text": " What's happening to this weird tentacle hair?" }, { "start": 43.64, "end": 44.88, "text": " I gotta do something about this." }, { "start": 44.88, "end": 45.88, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 45.88, "end": 46.88, "text": " I got some hair stuff running around here." }, { "start": 46.88, "end": 47.88, "text": " This is insane." }, { "start": 47.88, "end": 49.56, "text": " How do they get my hair to do that?" }, { "start": 49.56, "end": 50.64, "text": " How much lift do you get on that?" }, { "start": 50.64, "end": 53.78, "text": " Like an inch and a half?" }, { "start": 53.78, "end": 55.28, "text": " I gotta look like a young 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}, { "start": 72.75999999999999, "end": 75.28, "text": " My hair is doing some really weird curl stuff here." }, { "start": 75.28, "end": 76.28, "text": " I like it." }, { "start": 76.28, "end": 79.28, "text": " Yeah, it's great." }, { "start": 79.28, "end": 84.72, "text": " Hey, and welcome to the 100th Vergecast." }, { "start": 84.72, "end": 87.48, "text": " Let me ask you." }, { "start": 87.48, "end": 89, "text": " What is going on here?" }, { "start": 89, "end": 90.88000000000001, "text": " What is going on?" }, { "start": 90.88000000000001, "end": 91.88000000000001, "text": " Actually right now..." }, { "start": 91.88000000000001, "end": 92.88000000000001, "text": " It's pretty good." }, { "start": 92.88000000000001, "end": 93.88000000000001, "text": " Now there's this thing." }, { "start": 93.88000000000001, "end": 94.88000000000001, "text": " Oh God." }, { "start": 94.88000000000001, "end": 97, "text": " I don't know what this is." }, { "start": 97, "end": 98, "text": " Welcome to 100th Vergecast." }, { "start": 98, "end": 100.04, "text": " We made it to 100." }, { "start": 100.04, "end": 101.04, "text": " I'm Josh Dapolsky." }, { "start": 101.04, "end": 102.04, "text": " I'm Neil Iovetel." }, { "start": 102.04, "end": 107.72, "text": " And we have a very special guest today, Paul Miller." }, { "start": 107.72, "end": 108.72, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 108.72, "end": 111.44, "text": " Now look, we wanted to get Paul in the studio." }, { "start": 111.44, "end": 114.84, "text": " We tried to get him in the studio." }, { "start": 114.84, "end": 116.84, "text": " Needless to say, we could not get him in the studio." }, { "start": 116.84, "end": 118.72, "text": " It's not easy to get Paul anywhere." }, { "start": 118.72, "end": 124.16, "text": " Paul should be appearing on Skype magically." }, { "start": 124.16, "end": 125.16, "text": " There he is." }, { "start": 125.16, "end": 130.28, "text": " Paul Miller from Colorado, from what appears to be sunny Colorado." }, { "start": 130.28, "end": 132.32, "text": " Can you hear us?" }, { "start": 132.32, "end": 133.32, "text": " Hello?" }, { "start": 133.32, "end": 134.32, "text": " Yes, I can hear you." }, { "start": 134.32, "end": 135.32, "text": " Oh, there he is." }, { "start": 135.32, "end": 136.32, "text": " Oh, thank God." }, { "start": 136.32, "end": 137.32, "text": " Paul." }, { "start": 137.32, "end": 138.32, "text": " Yeah, we got it." }, { "start": 138.32, "end": 139.32, "text": " Welcome to the Vergecast." }, { "start": 139.32, "end": 140.32, "text": " You're back, man." }, { "start": 140.32, "end": 141.32, "text": " So exciting." }, { "start": 141.32, "end": 142.32, "text": " 100 episodes." }, { "start": 142.32, "end": 143.32, "text": " It's good to have you back." }, { "start": 143.32, "end": 144.92000000000002, "text": " Can we get his volume up a little bit?" }, { "start": 144.92, "end": 148.51999999999998, "text": " Did you ever think that you would make it, that we would 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173.2, "text": " Guys, what's happening?" }, { "start": 173.2, "end": 174.2, "text": " Working." }, { "start": 174.2, "end": 175.2, "text": " Working on it." }, { "start": 175.2, "end": 176.2, "text": " That's great." }, { "start": 176.2, "end": 177.2, "text": " That's good stuff." }, { "start": 177.2, "end": 178.2, "text": " That's super cool." }, { "start": 178.2, "end": 181.72, "text": " You know, it's really a testament to I think the high quality production that we run here." }, { "start": 181.72, "end": 182.92, "text": " I think it's a testament to Colorado." }, { "start": 182.92, "end": 183.95999999999998, "text": " I'm just going to blame." }, { "start": 183.95999999999998, "end": 186.23999999999998, "text": " You're blaming the entire state of Colorado." }, { "start": 186.23999999999998, "end": 188.51999999999998, "text": " Okay, so look, we're going to hold on." }, { "start": 188.51999999999998, "end": 189.51999999999998, "text": " So obviously it's disappointing." }, { "start": 189.51999999999998, "end": 190.72, "text": " Wait, what's our ETA?" }, { "start": 190.72, "end": 191.72, "text": " We've lost Paul yet." }, { "start": 191.72, "end": 193.51999999999998, "text": " Do we know how long this is going to take?" }, { "start": 193.51999999999998, "end": 194.51999999999998, "text": " Are we?" }, { "start": 194.51999999999998, "end": 195.51999999999998, "text": " A minute." }, { "start": 195.51999999999998, "end": 196.51999999999998, "text": " Okay, cool." }, { "start": 196.51999999999998, "end": 197.51999999999998, "text": " Just sorry." }, { "start": 197.51999999999998, "end": 198.51999999999998, "text": " You know what?" }, { "start": 198.51999999999998, "end": 199.51999999999998, "text": " The internet just doesn't work anymore." }, { "start": 199.51999999999998, "end": 201.28, "text": " Okay, so look, we're going to get Paul back." }, { "start": 201.28, "end": 203.28, "text": " Don't worry about it." }, { "start": 203.28, "end": 205.52, "text": " But I think we should get into the day's news." }, { "start": 205.52, "end": 206.52, "text": " There's a lot to talk about." }, { "start": 206.52, "end": 210.04, "text": " Because there's news to talk about today on the 100th Ridgecast." }, { "start": 210.04, "end": 213.68, "text": " The Nexus 5 has been announced." }, { "start": 213.68, "end": 214.68, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 214.68, "end": 217.68, "text": " Google's new Kit Kat 4.4." }, { "start": 217.68, "end": 218.68, "text": " It's a thing." }, { "start": 218.68, "end": 219.68, "text": " Horrible." }, { "start": 219.68, "end": 220.68, "text": " Let's just make it five." }, { "start": 220.68, "end": 221.68, "text": " Just stop torturing us." }, { "start": 221.68, "end": 222.68, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 222.68, "end": 225.16, "text": " And we have one here with us in the studio." }, { "start": 225.16, "end": 226.16, "text": " I'm holding." }, { "start": 226.16, "end": 227.16, "text": " What is happening?" }, { "start": 227.16, "end": 228.16, "text": " What is that?" }, { "start": 228.16, "end": 229.16, "text": " What's going on?" }, { "start": 229.16, "end": 232.16, "text": " Do you hear this music?" }, { "start": 232.16, "end": 234.16, "text": " What is happening?" }, { "start": 234.16, "end": 237.16, "text": " Get in here." }, { "start": 237.16, "end": 243.48, "text": " Stop looking so proud of yourself." }, { "start": 243.48, "end": 245.68, "text": " Is there fog?" }, { "start": 245.68, "end": 249.88, "text": " Is that something burning or is that a fog machine?" }, { "start": 249.88, "end": 250.88, "text": " Paul started a fire." }, { "start": 250.88, "end": 251.88, "text": " Now he's leaving." }, { "start": 251.88, "end": 254.92, "text": " It doesn't read on the camera, but there's something." }, { "start": 254.92, "end": 256.68, "text": " There's some type of smoke back here." }, { "start": 256.68, "end": 257.68, "text": " Should I be worried?" }, { "start": 257.68, "end": 258.68, "text": " Hey." }, { "start": 258.68, "end": 259.68, "text": " Ladies and gentlemen." }, { "start": 259.68, "end": 260.68, "text": " Paul." }, { "start": 260.68, "end": 261.68, "text": " Josiah." }, { "start": 261.68, "end": 262.68, "text": " Hampton Miller III." }, { "start": 262.68, "end": 263.68, "text": " I wanted to add that." }, { "start": 263.68, "end": 264.68, "text": " I thought you'd do the other name there." }, { "start": 264.68, "end": 270.6, "text": " You don't know this, but Paul's sitting in the studio with us right now." }, { "start": 270.6, "end": 272.16, "text": " It was all an elaborate hoax." }, { "start": 272.16, "end": 273.16, "text": " It was a ruse." }, { "start": 273.16, "end": 274.16, "text": " It was all an elaborate hoax." }, { "start": 274.16, "end": 275.16, "text": " You guys sold it pretty well." }, { "start": 275.16, "end": 276.16, "text": " How are we a ruse?" }, { "start": 276.16, "end": 277.16, "text": " I got to tell you both." }, { "start": 277.16, "end": 278.16, "text": " You got a little upset." }, { "start": 278.16, "end": 279.16, "text": " You were like, why couldn't I be there?" }, { "start": 279.16, "end": 283, "text": " Well, both during the rehearsal and then this time I thought we dropped a Skype call." }, { "start": 283, "end": 284, "text": " Both times." }, { "start": 284, "end": 285, "text": " Yeah, it really worked out." }, { "start": 285, "end": 287.24, "text": " Yes, we played a cruel prank on you." }, { "start": 287.24, "end": 291.96000000000004, "text": " Paul was here all along in studio with us in New York City, the greatest city ever in" }, { "start": 291.96000000000004, "end": 293.36, "text": " the history of the world." }, { "start": 293.36, "end": 294.36, "text": " That's right." }, { "start": 294.36, "end": 295.64, "text": " And currently also." }, { "start": 295.64, "end": 297.6, "text": " And Paul Miller is here." }, { "start": 297.6, "end": 298.6, "text": " Paul." }, { "start": 298.6, "end": 299.6, "text": " Look, I even have a drink." }, { "start": 299.6, "end": 300.6, "text": " Welcome." }, { "start": 300.6, "end": 303.08, "text": " You should have a soda waiting for you." }, { "start": 303.08, "end": 304.08, "text": " I am drinking whiskey." }, { "start": 304.08, "end": 305.08, "text": " Cheers, guys." }, { "start": 305.08, "end": 306.08, "text": " Cheers." }, { "start": 306.08, "end": 307.08, "text": " Cheers to 100." }, { "start": 307.08, "end": 308.08, "text": " To 100." }, { "start": 308.08, "end": 309.56, "text": " Also, by the way, the verge is two years old." }, { "start": 309.56, "end": 310.56, "text": " Oh yeah." }, { "start": 310.56, "end": 316.96000000000004, "text": " The verge of tomorrow at the stroke of midnight tonight, Hallow's Eve." }, { "start": 316.96, "end": 317.96, "text": " All Hallows Eve." }, { "start": 317.96, "end": 318.96, "text": " All Hallows Eve." }, { "start": 318.96, "end": 319.96, "text": " Not just Hallows Eve." }, { "start": 319.96, "end": 321.76, "text": " That's like, what is that?" }, { "start": 321.76, "end": 322.76, "text": " The verge turns two." }, { "start": 322.76, "end": 323.76, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 323.76, "end": 324.76, "text": " Which is nuts." }, { "start": 324.76, "end": 325.76, "text": " Two years young." }, { "start": 325.76, "end": 332.59999999999997, "text": " Two years of sweet, delicious, delectable, succulent, sexy, wonderful news and fun." }, { "start": 332.59999999999997, "end": 333.59999999999997, "text": " Cultural." }, { "start": 333.59999999999997, "end": 334.59999999999997, "text": " News and fun." }, { "start": 334.59999999999997, "end": 335.59999999999997, "text": " We actually should change the tagline." }, { "start": 335.59999999999997, "end": 336.59999999999997, "text": " This is the verge." }, { "start": 336.59999999999997, "end": 337.59999999999997, "text": " Let me see some reactions." }, { "start": 337.59999999999997, "end": 338.59999999999997, "text": " I just want to see some." }, { "start": 338.59999999999997, "end": 341.59999999999997, "text": " By the way, I should never have had a computer here." }, { "start": 341.59999999999997, "end": 342.59999999999997, "text": " No, I don't know why we allowed that." }, { "start": 342.59999999999997, "end": 343.59999999999997, "text": " I'm going to shut it in a second." }, { "start": 343.59999999999997, "end": 346.88, "text": " It's like we want 100 episodes knowing this was a bad idea." }, { "start": 346.88, "end": 348.15999999999997, "text": " 100, you show up." }, { "start": 348.15999999999997, "end": 349.15999999999997, "text": " I'm done." }, { "start": 349.15999999999997, "end": 350.15999999999997, "text": " All right." }, { "start": 350.15999999999997, "end": 351.15999999999997, "text": " I don't need a computer." }, { "start": 351.15999999999997, "end": 352.15999999999997, "text": " You know why?" }, { "start": 352.15999999999997, "end": 354.64, "text": " I have the computer of love that's being generated by you guys in this room right now." }, { "start": 354.64, "end": 355.64, "text": " Mainframe of devotion." }, { "start": 355.64, "end": 361.88, "text": " The mainframe of devotion and friendship, which is powering the GPU of action." }, { "start": 361.88, "end": 364.84, "text": " I think in year three, this computer is going to go quantum." }, { "start": 364.84, "end": 365.84, "text": " Paul, you look really good." }, { "start": 365.84, "end": 366.84, "text": " Let me just tell you." }, { "start": 366.84, "end": 367.84, "text": " Paul's like reverse AG." }, { "start": 367.84, "end": 372.96, "text": " I saw him earlier today and I was like, are you, you're like Benjamin Buttoning." }, { "start": 372.96, "end": 373.96, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 373.96, "end": 374.96, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 374.96, "end": 375.96, "text": " It's disturbing and upsetting." }, { "start": 375.96, "end": 376.96, "text": " It's really like, like well put together." }, { "start": 376.96, "end": 377.96, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 377.96, "end": 378.96, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 378.96, "end": 379.96, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 379.96, "end": 380.96, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 380.96, "end": 381.96, "text": " You're going to be like coasting." }, { "start": 381.96, "end": 382.96, "text": " Wait a second." }, { "start": 382.96, "end": 383.96, "text": " Is Benjamin Button played by Brad Pitt?" }, { "start": 383.96, "end": 384.96, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 384.96, "end": 385.96, "text": " I've never seen it." }, { "start": 385.96, "end": 387.68, "text": " I just know that he goes from old to young." }, { "start": 387.68, "end": 388.68, "text": " I only read it." }, { "start": 388.68, "end": 391.64, "text": " Does he actually go back to the, does he go back into the womb?" }, { "start": 391.64, "end": 393.79999999999995, "text": " What do you mean?" }, { "start": 393.79999999999995, "end": 396.03999999999996, "text": " Like does he go up inside a woman?" }, { "start": 396.03999999999996, "end": 398.96, "text": " He's born as an old man." }, { "start": 398.96, "end": 399.96, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 399.96, "end": 401.2, "text": " How does he get out?" }, { "start": 401.2, "end": 402.2, "text": " He dies, right?" }, { "start": 402.2, "end": 404.59999999999997, "text": " He's born as a tiny old man." }, { "start": 404.59999999999997, "end": 405.59999999999997, "text": " This is all, you know, I'm so old." }, { "start": 405.6, "end": 406.6, "text": " No, I'm sorry." }, { "start": 406.6, "end": 409.6, "text": " I think they might've stretched, I think they might've stretched the logic and the truth" }, { "start": 409.6, "end": 410.6, "text": " of this Benjamin Button story." }, { "start": 410.6, "end": 411.6, "text": " What do you mean?" }, { "start": 411.6, "end": 412.6, "text": " F. Scott Fitzgerald fame novelist." }, { "start": 412.6, "end": 417, "text": " I'm not so worried about my hair right now, but I do seem to be sweating or as the Jews" }, { "start": 417, "end": 418, "text": " call it, shvitzing." }, { "start": 418, "end": 419, "text": " Wow." }, { "start": 419, "end": 420, "text": " Wow." }, { "start": 420, "end": 421, "text": " I'm a Jew." }, { "start": 421, "end": 422, "text": " I can say that." }, { "start": 422, "end": 423, "text": " Can you?" }, { "start": 423, "end": 425.04, "text": " I mean, I was raised a Jew, but you know how I feel about God." }, { "start": 425.04, "end": 426.04, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 426.04, "end": 427.04, "text": " Drifting in and out of orbit." }, { "start": 427.04, "end": 428.04, "text": " I love him." }, { "start": 428.04, "end": 429.04, "text": " I love him." }, { "start": 429.04, "end": 430.04, "text": " It's for Paul." }, { "start": 430.04, "end": 431.04, "text": " It's for Paul." }, { "start": 431.04, "end": 432.04, "text": " Anyhow, we're back on the Vergecast." }, { "start": 432.04, "end": 433.36, "text": " Paul, what have you been doing?" }, { "start": 433.36, "end": 434.36, "text": " We've missed you." }, { "start": 434.36, "end": 436.16, "text": " So far, this is the worst Vergecast." }, { "start": 436.16, "end": 438.16, "text": " Yeah, it's already deeply off the rails." }, { "start": 438.16, "end": 440.24, "text": " I've been taking care of children." }, { "start": 440.24, "end": 441.24, "text": " My brother's three-" }, { "start": 441.24, "end": 442.24, "text": " Taken care of them?" }, { "start": 442.24, "end": 443.24, "text": " No." }, { "start": 443.24, "end": 444.24, "text": " That's awful." }, { "start": 444.24, "end": 445.24, "text": " What do the Jews call that, Josh?" }, { "start": 445.24, "end": 446.24, "text": " No!" }, { "start": 446.24, "end": 447.24, "text": " No!" }, { "start": 447.24, "end": 448.24, "text": " Let's hear more about your..." }, { "start": 448.24, "end": 449.24, "text": " You've been a caretaker of children." }, { "start": 449.24, "end": 450.32, "text": " And I haven't killed a single child." }, { "start": 450.32, "end": 451.32, "text": " Just so quickly." }, { "start": 451.32, "end": 452.32, "text": " No, my brother was..." }, { "start": 452.32, "end": 453.32, "text": " It's good." }, { "start": 453.32, "end": 454.32, "text": " It's good." }, { "start": 454.32, "end": 455.32, "text": " It's good." }, { "start": 455.32, "end": 456.32, "text": " It's good." }, { "start": 456.32, "end": 457.32, "text": " It's good." }, { "start": 457.32, "end": 458.32, "text": " It's good." }, { "start": 458.32, "end": 459.32, "text": " It's good." }, { "start": 459.32, "end": 460.32, "text": " It's good." }, { "start": 460.32, "end": 461.32, "text": " It's good." }, { "start": 461.32, "end": 462.32, "text": " It's good." }, { "start": 462.32, "end": 463.32, "text": " It's good." }, { "start": 463.32, "end": 464.32, "text": " It's good." }, { "start": 464.32, "end": 465.32, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 465.32, "end": 466.32, "text": " So my brother was deployed with the air force." }, { "start": 466.32, "end": 469.62, "text": " Could I get a little paper towel or something?" }, { "start": 469.62, "end": 470.62, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 470.62, "end": 471.62, "text": " I'm just really..." }, { "start": 471.62, "end": 475.3, "text": " Can I get a sedative maybe, and something stronger to drink?" }, { "start": 475.3, "end": 477.3, "text": " And then maybe the air could be turned up, Ross." }, { "start": 477.3, "end": 478.3, "text": " Yeah?" }, { "start": 478.3, "end": 479.3, "text": " I mean, down." }, { "start": 479.3, "end": 480.3, "text": " Down." }, { "start": 480.3, "end": 481.3, "text": " So it's cooler?" }, { "start": 481.3, "end": 482.3, "text": " Cold." }, { "start": 482.3, "end": 483.3, "text": " Cold." }, { "start": 483.3, "end": 484.3, "text": " Cold." }, { "start": 484.3, "end": 485.3, "text": " Can the air can be turned cold?" }, { "start": 485.3, "end": 486.56, "text": " Anyhow, you've been taking care of children in Colorado." }, { "start": 486.56, "end": 489.34, "text": " Yes, my brother's children while he was deployed with the air force." }, { "start": 489.34, "end": 490.34, "text": " He was back?" }, { "start": 490.34, "end": 491.34, "text": " He was back." }, { "start": 491.34, "end": 492.34, "text": " He was in..." }, { "start": 492.34, "end": 493.34, "text": " Hold on." }, { "start": 493.34, "end": 493.94, "text": " Yep. Yeah." }, { "start": 494.94, "end": 497.29999999999995, "text": " So one thing I've remembered, you remember my middle name? I" }, { "start": 497.29999999999995, "end": 500.17999999999995, "text": " was surprised about Josiah. Yeah, yeah. And then I added." }, { "start": 500.21999999999997, "end": 504.17999999999995, "text": " What was it? Hamilton, Hamilton, Hampton, Hampton, Hampton," }, { "start": 504.38, "end": 508.09999999999997, "text": " Paul, Paul Josiah Hampton. All right. Well, I mean, Paul, we've" }, { "start": 508.09999999999997, "end": 512.3, "text": " missed you. Thank you. I'm not not for this immediate detour" }, { "start": 512.62, "end": 515.66, "text": " into insanity. Right? That I have not missed. Right. In" }, { "start": 515.66, "end": 518.3399999999999, "text": " general. Well, you know, it's a whole package. And I will say" }, { "start": 518.3399999999999, "end": 520.8199999999999, "text": " that. You take the good you take the bad our listeners, the" }, { "start": 520.82, "end": 524.1, "text": " bitter and the sweet. I've missed the point where they" }, { "start": 524.1, "end": 526.7, "text": " produced what I would characterize as fanfiction" }, { "start": 526.72, "end": 531.22, "text": " fanfic, Paul fanfic, or just regular and he went right there." }, { "start": 531.6600000000001, "end": 534.94, "text": " Slash fake is the sexy stuff, right? Okay, yeah. Nothing I" }, { "start": 534.94, "end": 537.58, "text": " would know. I mean, I don't know. Obviously, it's cleared." }, { "start": 537.98, "end": 540.82, "text": " I have too much stuff. Can I get a little apple box here?" }, { "start": 542.2600000000001, "end": 544.74, "text": " Can I also get an apple? I'm just starting a box of apples." }, { "start": 544.74, "end": 547.6600000000001, "text": " I'd like some granny Smith's. All right. So I want to show you" }, { "start": 547.6600000000001, "end": 550.74, "text": " something. Okay, Fuji. It's called convoy. Oh, can we" }, { "start": 550.74, "end": 554.34, "text": " talk about what are we doing? We're gonna run convoy. Oh," }, { "start": 554.34, "end": 557.66, "text": " yeah. So Paul's been gone, you know, and, and people out there" }, { "start": 557.66, "end": 562.86, "text": " in the world have been creating fanfic. And we got in" }, { "start": 562.86, "end": 565.42, "text": " particular. Well, when I don't know if it's called fanfic, I" }, { "start": 565.42, "end": 568.1800000000001, "text": " don't know what it is. But a very talented guy named bored" }, { "start": 568.1800000000001, "end": 574.26, "text": " Edlund. Yeah. created a film, a short film, which we have not" }, { "start": 574.26, "end": 577.9, "text": " been able to share until this moment. And we want you to take" }, { "start": 577.9, "end": 589.9, "text": " a look at it. And you know, there, there, I hope in the future you see more of this. I know I can't say for sure. Yeah. But here's a little taste of something that should make you feel warm and fuzzy about the Verge cast. Take a look." }, { "start": 589.9, "end": 608.9, "text": " Can I say something? Yeah. It's dark in here. Am I crazy? It's dark. I'm just gonna say it. Like, here's what I think. What's going on my hair? I look like you don't seem to care. I don't care if your AT&T service, like, sexually assaults you in the night. Okay. It's very disappointing. That's great." }, { "start": 620.5, "end": 640.54, "text": " This jacket was a mistake. Yeah, it's like it's stupid. What it boils down to is this. I got this like weird like Tucker Carlson hair happening. I don't know how that computes. I agree with you. But here's the deal. It feels really solid. It's not a product. You're being harsh for no reason. This is not slimy. Okay. It's not right. And I don't appreciate it." }, { "start": 640.54, "end": 657.26, "text": " Just a little taste. Yeah. Just a taste. It's how I picture you floating. I'm not that flexible. I can't." }, { "start": 657.26, "end": 669.3399999999999, "text": " Yeah, you're floating behind. We're in, we're in we're in. We're in two separate 18 wheelers. Nila and I. Powering down the highway. Are you guys hauling by the way? Well, don't you worry about that. But we're anxious." }, { "start": 669.34, "end": 670.58, "text": " We're argumentative." }, { "start": 670.58, "end": 671.4200000000001, "text": " We're worried." }, { "start": 671.4200000000001, "end": 672.26, "text": " We're worried." }, { "start": 672.26, "end": 673.5, "text": " Mostly, from what I can tell," }, { "start": 673.5, "end": 676.3000000000001, "text": " the Virgcast is centered mostly around my" }, { "start": 676.3000000000001, "end": 678.7, "text": " completely self-obsessed," }, { "start": 678.7, "end": 680.6600000000001, "text": " like my problems with the way I look." }, { "start": 680.6600000000001, "end": 681.5, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 681.5, "end": 682.86, "text": " Which is very depressing to see," }, { "start": 682.86, "end": 685.14, "text": " to be confronted with it in such a manner." }, { "start": 685.14, "end": 688.3000000000001, "text": " But anyhow, we're barreling down the highway of life" }, { "start": 688.3000000000001, "end": 690.62, "text": " with hauling a lot of stuff." }, { "start": 690.62, "end": 692.9, "text": " Worried, angry, argumentative," }, { "start": 693.82, "end": 697.0600000000001, "text": " concerned that we look like Tucker Carlson is one of us." }, { "start": 697.0600000000001, "end": 698.5400000000001, "text": " You're floating." }, { "start": 698.54, "end": 700.0999999999999, "text": " You're floating down that highway." }, { "start": 700.0999999999999, "end": 700.9399999999999, "text": " I'm trying." }, { "start": 700.9399999999999, "end": 701.78, "text": " Zen'd out." }, { "start": 701.78, "end": 702.62, "text": " You're trying." }, { "start": 702.62, "end": 703.4599999999999, "text": " I'm trying." }, { "start": 703.4599999999999, "end": 704.3, "text": " That's good." }, { "start": 704.3, "end": 705.14, "text": " Really earnest." }, { "start": 705.14, "end": 705.98, "text": " The way you said that was really earnest," }, { "start": 705.98, "end": 707.38, "text": " like a guy who's gotten sober," }, { "start": 707.38, "end": 708.5, "text": " who's just living day to day." }, { "start": 708.5, "end": 709.3399999999999, "text": " That's right." }, { "start": 709.3399999999999, "end": 710.18, "text": " Day by day." }, { "start": 710.18, "end": 711.02, "text": " You can't take anything for granted." }, { "start": 711.02, "end": 711.86, "text": " That's right." }, { "start": 711.86, "end": 712.6999999999999, "text": " Yeah, like the internet?" }, { "start": 712.6999999999999, "end": 714.86, "text": " Or like the fact that you're floating on a highway." }, { "start": 714.86, "end": 715.9, "text": " Don't take it for granted." }, { "start": 715.9, "end": 716.74, "text": " I wouldn't say." }, { "start": 716.74, "end": 717.5799999999999, "text": " That doesn't always last." }, { "start": 717.5799999999999, "end": 718.42, "text": " I wouldn't take that for granted." }, { "start": 718.42, "end": 720.66, "text": " So Paul, you are," }, { "start": 720.66, "end": 724.86, "text": " basically you're not really writing much." }, { "start": 724.86, "end": 725.6999999999999, "text": " No." }, { "start": 725.6999999999999, "end": 726.66, "text": " You're working on a book?" }, { "start": 726.66, "end": 727.9, "text": " Tell me about that." }, { "start": 727.9, "end": 730.38, "text": " It's not materialized yet." }, { "start": 730.38, "end": 732.54, "text": " Well, books are not easy." }, { "start": 732.54, "end": 733.38, "text": " You know what I've been doing a lot?" }, { "start": 733.38, "end": 735.38, "text": " I've been learning how to program." }, { "start": 735.38, "end": 736.22, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 736.22, "end": 737.06, "text": " You're a programmer." }, { "start": 737.06, "end": 738.62, "text": " Learning JavaScript." }, { "start": 738.62, "end": 739.98, "text": " Little AngularJS." }, { "start": 739.98, "end": 741.34, "text": " You're doing some programming." }, { "start": 741.34, "end": 742.42, "text": " Programming, yeah, yeah." }, { "start": 742.42, "end": 743.9399999999999, "text": " Do you have friends who are programmers" }, { "start": 743.9399999999999, "end": 744.78, "text": " that you hang out with?" }, { "start": 744.78, "end": 745.62, "text": " No, I need more programming friends." }, { "start": 745.62, "end": 746.86, "text": " There's no programming clicks in Colorado." }, { "start": 746.86, "end": 749.5, "text": " If you live in, what area of Colorado are you in?" }, { "start": 749.5, "end": 750.38, "text": " Colorado Springs." }, { "start": 750.38, "end": 751.22, "text": " Yeah, I mean it's a big town." }, { "start": 751.22, "end": 752.06, "text": " But I'm back." }, { "start": 752.06, "end": 752.9, "text": " I'm in New York now." }, { "start": 752.9, "end": 753.74, "text": " I moved back." }, { "start": 753.74, "end": 754.5799999999999, "text": " Shut up." }, { "start": 754.5799999999999, "end": 755.42, "text": " I live in New York." }, { "start": 755.42, "end": 756.5799999999999, "text": " I have my apartment back." }, { "start": 756.5799999999999, "end": 757.62, "text": " Are you kidding me?" }, { "start": 757.62, "end": 758.46, "text": " I have a bed." }, { "start": 758.46, "end": 760.54, "text": " Wait, you're back in New York permanently?" }, { "start": 760.54, "end": 761.38, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 761.38, "end": 762.22, "text": " Really?" }, { "start": 762.22, "end": 763.0600000000001, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 763.0600000000001, "end": 764.46, "text": " You say you have your luggage?" }, { "start": 764.46, "end": 765.78, "text": " With you here?" }, { "start": 765.78, "end": 766.62, "text": " Can we unpack into what's in there?" }, { "start": 766.62, "end": 767.9, "text": " When you say your apartment," }, { "start": 767.9, "end": 770.58, "text": " you don't mean a corner of the office, right?" }, { "start": 770.58, "end": 771.9, "text": " He's curling up in..." }, { "start": 771.9, "end": 773.58, "text": " Interesting." }, { "start": 773.58, "end": 775.54, "text": " He's like, you know, there's some space" }, { "start": 775.54, "end": 777.02, "text": " in the server room that we're not using." }, { "start": 777.02, "end": 778.46, "text": " Yeah, it's really warm too." }, { "start": 778.46, "end": 779.3, "text": " It's nice." }, { "start": 779.3, "end": 780.14, "text": " It shouldn't be warm." }, { "start": 780.14, "end": 780.96, "text": " It should be cooled down." }, { "start": 780.96, "end": 781.94, "text": " It's got its own air conditioning system." }, { "start": 781.94, "end": 783.26, "text": " Yeah, but then the heat from the servers." }, { "start": 783.26, "end": 784.34, "text": " All right, anyhow." }, { "start": 784.34, "end": 785.1800000000001, "text": " That's good, Paul." }, { "start": 785.1800000000001, "end": 786.02, "text": " You're a king." }, { "start": 786.02, "end": 786.86, "text": " You're back in New York." }, { "start": 786.86, "end": 787.7, "text": " I'm a server." }, { "start": 787.7, "end": 788.54, "text": " I'm a cat." }, { "start": 788.54, "end": 791.5, "text": " So if you're ever in the, what's your neighborhood?" }, { "start": 791.5, "end": 792.34, "text": " Union Square." }, { "start": 792.34, "end": 794.54, "text": " If you're ever in the Union Square area." }, { "start": 794.54, "end": 796.74, "text": " Paul was often recognized in the Union Square area." }, { "start": 796.74, "end": 797.58, "text": " That's right." }, { "start": 797.58, "end": 799.26, "text": " He was a local celebrity, haunted." }, { "start": 799.26, "end": 800.1, "text": " Weird Paul." }, { "start": 800.1, "end": 800.94, "text": " He was also a ghost." }, { "start": 800.94, "end": 801.78, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 801.78, "end": 803.02, "text": " And then sometimes if I'm skateboarding," }, { "start": 803.02, "end": 804.66, "text": " people are like, do a kickflip." }, { "start": 804.66, "end": 805.74, "text": " Cool." }, { "start": 805.74, "end": 807.82, "text": " Paul was often heckled in the Union Square area." }, { "start": 807.82, "end": 809.0600000000001, "text": " I'm often heckled." }, { "start": 809.0600000000001, "end": 810.14, "text": " All right, let's get into, by the way," }, { "start": 810.14, "end": 811.86, "text": " now something is going on with my hair." }, { "start": 811.86, "end": 812.86, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 812.86, "end": 814.02, "text": " It's like something's moved." }, { "start": 814.02, "end": 815.26, "text": " Paul, it is really hot in here." }, { "start": 815.26, "end": 816.1, "text": " But you've been keeping up with the heat." }, { "start": 816.1, "end": 817.58, "text": " Yeah, why is it so hot in here?" }, { "start": 817.58, "end": 818.66, "text": " You're wearing like a sporty," }, { "start": 818.66, "end": 821.22, "text": " like you're like a Don Draper on the weekends over here." }, { "start": 821.22, "end": 822.94, "text": " Well, that's true." }, { "start": 824.1, "end": 824.94, "text": " I'm like Don Draper during the week." }, { "start": 824.94, "end": 827.82, "text": " I have, I've been reading theverge.com a lot." }, { "start": 827.82, "end": 828.66, "text": " I'm Don Draper lately." }, { "start": 828.66, "end": 829.5, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 829.5, "end": 830.34, "text": " I wanted to say that you guys have been doing" }, { "start": 830.34, "end": 831.1800000000001, "text": " a very good job." }, { "start": 831.1800000000001, "end": 832.02, "text": " Thank you." }, { "start": 832.02, "end": 834.34, "text": " Well, you know, it's, we couldn't have done it without you." }, { "start": 834.34, "end": 836.94, "text": " It's informative, but it's also insightful." }, { "start": 836.94, "end": 839.5, "text": " That's something that we have been trying to avoid," }, { "start": 839.5, "end": 840.78, "text": " but unfortunately I guess failing." }, { "start": 840.78, "end": 841.62, "text": " Can't stop it." }, { "start": 841.62, "end": 843.7, "text": " You know, it's like, let's just inform today." }, { "start": 843.7, "end": 847.38, "text": " And then gosh darn it, we also do insightful work" }, { "start": 847.38, "end": 848.22, "text": " on top of it." }, { "start": 848.22, "end": 849.3000000000001, "text": " It's the worst." }, { "start": 849.3000000000001, "end": 851.26, "text": " Well, I'm glad that you've been reading." }, { "start": 851.26, "end": 853.74, "text": " That would explain our explosive growth." }, { "start": 853.74, "end": 854.58, "text": " And then like all the stuff happened today" }, { "start": 854.58, "end": 855.74, "text": " that like I had no idea about." }, { "start": 855.74, "end": 856.58, "text": " Yeah, you didn't know." }, { "start": 856.58, "end": 857.4200000000001, "text": " So that's good segue." }, { "start": 857.4200000000001, "end": 858.26, "text": " It's here." }, { "start": 858.26, "end": 859.1, "text": " It's actually here." }, { "start": 859.1, "end": 859.94, "text": " Good segue." }, { "start": 859.94, "end": 860.7800000000001, "text": " The Nexus 5." }, { "start": 860.7800000000001, "end": 861.6, "text": " Surprise, surprise." }, { "start": 861.6, "end": 863.46, "text": " Here it is right here, right there." }, { "start": 863.46, "end": 865.26, "text": " I'm trying to get the right angle." }, { "start": 865.26, "end": 866.6600000000001, "text": " I think that's the right angle." }, { "start": 866.6600000000001, "end": 871.6600000000001, "text": " Here it is, Kit Kat, as delicious as it is nutritious." }, { "start": 871.6600000000001, "end": 872.98, "text": " So as far as I can tell." }, { "start": 872.98, "end": 873.82, "text": " Do you want to see it?" }, { "start": 873.82, "end": 875.1800000000001, "text": " You haven't seen it yet." }, { "start": 875.1800000000001, "end": 876.78, "text": " So by the way, come on, before I give it to you." }, { "start": 876.78, "end": 878.1, "text": " We did a rehearsal." }, { "start": 878.1, "end": 878.94, "text": " We did." }, { "start": 878.94, "end": 879.78, "text": " You touched it a little bit." }, { "start": 879.78, "end": 880.62, "text": " I'm not gonna lie." }, { "start": 880.62, "end": 882.14, "text": " I've done enough lying for the day." }, { "start": 882.14, "end": 882.98, "text": " I said like I took it." }, { "start": 882.98, "end": 884.3000000000001, "text": " I've done enough lying for the day." }, { "start": 884.3000000000001, "end": 885.3000000000001, "text": " We did one joke." }, { "start": 885.3000000000001, "end": 886.14, "text": " But I took it back from you." }, { "start": 886.14, "end": 887.62, "text": " What other lies have you told today?" }, { "start": 887.62, "end": 888.46, "text": " That was a lie." }, { "start": 888.46, "end": 889.3000000000001, "text": " But hold on." }, { "start": 889.3000000000001, "end": 890.3000000000001, "text": " Now you're lying." }, { "start": 890.3000000000001, "end": 891.12, "text": " What?" }, { "start": 891.12, "end": 892.62, "text": " Because I took it back from you." }, { "start": 892.62, "end": 893.78, "text": " I handed it to you." }, { "start": 893.78, "end": 894.62, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 894.62, "end": 895.66, "text": " And then you were like, oh, let me check this out." }, { "start": 895.66, "end": 896.74, "text": " And I was like, no." }, { "start": 896.74, "end": 897.58, "text": " But I touched it." }, { "start": 897.58, "end": 898.4, "text": " He did touch it." }, { "start": 898.4, "end": 899.24, "text": " I saw it." }, { "start": 899.24, "end": 900.14, "text": " Hold on, wait." }, { "start": 900.14, "end": 903.02, "text": " What I want to say about it before you touch it again." }, { "start": 903.02, "end": 907.22, "text": " I gotta say, you know, this design is not revolutionary" }, { "start": 907.22, "end": 910.86, "text": " or anything, but I'm pretty psyched on it." }, { "start": 910.86, "end": 912.62, "text": " Because that's saying Kit Kat's pretty slick." }, { "start": 912.62, "end": 913.78, "text": " Josh has been freaking out all day." }, { "start": 913.78, "end": 914.78, "text": " Kit Kat is pretty slick." }, { "start": 914.78, "end": 915.62, "text": " So I understand that." }, { "start": 915.62, "end": 917.46, "text": " I was saying, this is the Chromebook." }, { "start": 917.46, "end": 919.78, "text": " It's the matte black." }, { "start": 919.78, "end": 920.98, "text": " This is all I want." }, { "start": 920.98, "end": 923.26, "text": " I'm like smudging oil all over it." }, { "start": 923.26, "end": 924.58, "text": " It gets fingerprints on it real fast." }, { "start": 924.58, "end": 925.42, "text": " The matte's a little smudging." }, { "start": 925.42, "end": 927.26, "text": " Within seconds of you taking it out of the box," }, { "start": 927.26, "end": 928.1, "text": " I notice it has fingerprints on it." }, { "start": 928.1, "end": 929.22, "text": " Yeah, but my hands are." }, { "start": 929.22, "end": 930.26, "text": " I don't mind." }, { "start": 930.26, "end": 931.1, "text": " You know what?" }, { "start": 931.1, "end": 931.9200000000001, "text": " Everything gets." }, { "start": 931.9200000000001, "end": 932.76, "text": " You know what?" }, { "start": 932.76, "end": 933.6, "text": " Where fingerprints come from?" }, { "start": 933.6, "end": 934.44, "text": " Humans." }, { "start": 934.44, "end": 935.26, "text": " What do you want?" }, { "start": 935.26, "end": 936.1, "text": " You want me to get it on the camera?" }, { "start": 936.1, "end": 938.6600000000001, "text": " It's like you're leaving a little bit of human." }, { "start": 938.6600000000001, "end": 939.5, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 939.5, "end": 941.14, "text": " Can you show it to the camera there?" }, { "start": 941.14, "end": 941.98, "text": " Do you want me to smudge it for you?" }, { "start": 941.98, "end": 942.8000000000001, "text": " This one here." }, { "start": 942.8000000000001, "end": 943.64, "text": " This one, there's a." }, { "start": 943.64, "end": 945.22, "text": " Put a little bit of human on there." }, { "start": 945.22, "end": 946.1, "text": " Wow." }, { "start": 946.1, "end": 948.62, "text": " Please don't refer to finger oil as human." }, { "start": 948.62, "end": 949.6600000000001, "text": " Please don't do that." }, { "start": 949.6600000000001, "end": 950.9, "text": " Please don't do that." }, { "start": 950.9, "end": 951.74, "text": " Do you want to show?" }, { "start": 951.74, "end": 952.5600000000001, "text": " Can you show it at all, Paul?" }, { "start": 952.5600000000001, "end": 953.58, "text": " You're not graded product at all." }, { "start": 953.58, "end": 954.4, "text": " No." }, { "start": 954.4, "end": 955.24, "text": " Yeah, you've forgotten how." }, { "start": 955.24, "end": 957.46, "text": " In fact, Josh took a picture of me," }, { "start": 957.46, "end": 960.86, "text": " and I could not find, remember photo location." }, { "start": 960.86, "end": 962.82, "text": " Josh, would you like to remember photo location?" }, { "start": 962.82, "end": 963.6600000000001, "text": " Yes, yes I would." }, { "start": 963.6600000000001, "end": 964.5, "text": " Yes, let's do it." }, { "start": 964.5, "end": 966.82, "text": " I always save my photo." }, { "start": 966.82, "end": 967.6600000000001, "text": " What's happening?" }, { "start": 967.6600000000001, "end": 968.48, "text": " There's no photo." }, { "start": 968.48, "end": 969.32, "text": " I wiped it." }, { "start": 969.32, "end": 970.98, "text": " Don't you understand about me wiping it?" }, { "start": 970.98, "end": 971.82, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 971.82, "end": 973.6, "text": " Hey, everybody's back together." }, { "start": 975.02, "end": 976.38, "text": " Josh and I are always here." }, { "start": 976.38, "end": 977.22, "text": " We're here." }, { "start": 977.22, "end": 981.3000000000001, "text": " You would be the person who's interested in that photo." }, { "start": 981.3000000000001, "end": 982.14, "text": " It's not." }, { "start": 982.14, "end": 983.1800000000001, "text": " We've been here." }, { "start": 983.1800000000001, "end": 984.02, "text": " Can you zoom in?" }, { "start": 984.02, "end": 984.84, "text": " It's a little blurry." }, { "start": 984.84, "end": 987.1800000000001, "text": " Despite the fact that we are." }, { "start": 987.18, "end": 988.02, "text": " That's a terrible photo." }, { "start": 988.02, "end": 989.54, "text": " That's the studio lighting." }, { "start": 989.54, "end": 990.38, "text": " Oh, give me this." }, { "start": 990.38, "end": 991.1999999999999, "text": " It's the single worst photo." }, { "start": 991.1999999999999, "end": 992.04, "text": " Let me see that." }, { "start": 992.04, "end": 992.8599999999999, "text": " Don't delete it." }, { "start": 992.8599999999999, "end": 994.26, "text": " Don't be one of those guys who deletes photos." }, { "start": 994.26, "end": 995.0799999999999, "text": " Put a filter on it." }, { "start": 995.0799999999999, "end": 995.92, "text": " Oh, I'm that guy." }, { "start": 995.92, "end": 996.76, "text": " Oh, God." }, { "start": 996.76, "end": 997.5799999999999, "text": " Are you kidding me?" }, { "start": 997.5799999999999, "end": 998.42, "text": " Are you kidding me?" }, { "start": 998.42, "end": 999.2399999999999, "text": " Smile." }, { "start": 999.2399999999999, "end": 1000.14, "text": " I don't know, now that I'm hearing this," }, { "start": 1000.14, "end": 1003.5, "text": " I feel like maybe it's better without Paul on the Vergecast." }, { "start": 1003.5, "end": 1004.3399999999999, "text": " Why isn't this working?" }, { "start": 1004.3399999999999, "end": 1005.18, "text": " What's happening?" }, { "start": 1005.18, "end": 1006.02, "text": " Do something." }, { "start": 1006.02, "end": 1007.2199999999999, "text": " You have problematic thumbs." }, { "start": 1007.2199999999999, "end": 1008.06, "text": " Where are the controls?" }, { "start": 1008.06, "end": 1009.9, "text": " Is he not recognizing my face or something?" }, { "start": 1009.9, "end": 1011.2199999999999, "text": " Where are the controls for that?" }, { "start": 1011.2199999999999, "end": 1012.0999999999999, "text": " This thing's mad at me." }, { "start": 1012.0999999999999, "end": 1012.9399999999999, "text": " What did you do?" }, { "start": 1012.9399999999999, "end": 1014, "text": " It knows that I ate a Kit Kat." }, { "start": 1014, "end": 1014.8399999999999, "text": " It's mad." }, { "start": 1014.84, "end": 1017.4200000000001, "text": " It's mad at its brother." }, { "start": 1017.4200000000001, "end": 1018.26, "text": " It's not gonna work." }, { "start": 1018.26, "end": 1019.08, "text": " I'm the only guy in the room who knows" }, { "start": 1019.08, "end": 1021.9200000000001, "text": " how to use an Android phone." }, { "start": 1021.9200000000001, "end": 1022.76, "text": " Beautiful photo." }, { "start": 1022.76, "end": 1023.58, "text": " No, yeah." }, { "start": 1023.58, "end": 1025.06, "text": " It's like, it's okay." }, { "start": 1025.06, "end": 1026.14, "text": " No, it's blurry." }, { "start": 1026.14, "end": 1026.98, "text": " It's awful." }, { "start": 1026.98, "end": 1028.8600000000001, "text": " Yeah, like why can't they up the shutter speed?" }, { "start": 1028.8600000000001, "end": 1030.18, "text": " Let's just get into it." }, { "start": 1030.18, "end": 1031.24, "text": " The Nexus 5 is here." }, { "start": 1031.24, "end": 1032.74, "text": " Kit Kat is here." }, { "start": 1032.74, "end": 1034.06, "text": " The only question about the Nexus 5." }, { "start": 1034.06, "end": 1034.9, "text": " Oh, this is five." }, { "start": 1034.9, "end": 1035.72, "text": " There's a bug here." }, { "start": 1035.72, "end": 1036.7, "text": " Google is allergic to cameras." }, { "start": 1036.7, "end": 1038.38, "text": " In my mind is whether or not this thing" }, { "start": 1038.38, "end": 1039.26, "text": " will have a good camera," }, { "start": 1039.26, "end": 1042.76, "text": " because it's what made the Nexus 1 not such a great phone." }, { "start": 1042.76, "end": 1045.22, "text": " It's what made the Galaxy Nexus not such a great phone." }, { "start": 1045.22, "end": 1047.32, "text": " It's what made the Nexus 4 not a great phone." }, { "start": 1047.32, "end": 1049.98, "text": " It's what made my HTC One with Google Play" }, { "start": 1049.98, "end": 1050.9, "text": " not such a great phone." }, { "start": 1050.9, "end": 1051.74, "text": " Same with the GS4." }, { "start": 1051.74, "end": 1052.94, "text": " Give me your iPhone." }, { "start": 1052.94, "end": 1053.78, "text": " Let me see." }, { "start": 1053.78, "end": 1054.6, "text": " I'm gonna take the same picture." }, { "start": 1054.6, "end": 1055.44, "text": " I wanna see what happens." }, { "start": 1055.44, "end": 1056.5, "text": " This is gonna look great." }, { "start": 1056.5, "end": 1057.34, "text": " Somebody, and the only reason." }, { "start": 1057.34, "end": 1058.58, "text": " I'm just gonna do the same thing." }, { "start": 1058.58, "end": 1059.42, "text": " The only reason it's gonna look great" }, { "start": 1059.42, "end": 1061.46, "text": " is because somebody cares about that camera." }, { "start": 1061.46, "end": 1062.3, "text": " Here we go." }, { "start": 1062.3, "end": 1063.94, "text": " When Samsung makes the camera for the GS4," }, { "start": 1063.94, "end": 1065.42, "text": " it looks fine too." }, { "start": 1065.42, "end": 1067.62, "text": " First off, it's a billion times faster in taking." }, { "start": 1067.62, "end": 1068.46, "text": " Oh my God." }, { "start": 1068.46, "end": 1069.28, "text": " It's ridiculous." }, { "start": 1069.28, "end": 1070.86, "text": " The picture is really good, but." }, { "start": 1070.86, "end": 1072.86, "text": " What is wrong with you?" }, { "start": 1072.86, "end": 1073.6999999999998, "text": " But here's the comparison." }, { "start": 1073.6999999999998, "end": 1074.54, "text": " Look at the comparison." }, { "start": 1074.54, "end": 1075.3799999999999, "text": " Why does my face do that?" }, { "start": 1075.3799999999999, "end": 1076.82, "text": " Look at the comparison quality." }, { "start": 1076.82, "end": 1078.26, "text": " No, I don't want anybody." }, { "start": 1078.26, "end": 1080.1799999999998, "text": " Nela, you're not allowed to delete photos." }, { "start": 1080.1799999999998, "end": 1083.4599999999998, "text": " We live in a time where everything is permanent." }, { "start": 1083.4599999999998, "end": 1084.3, "text": " Everything is out there." }, { "start": 1084.3, "end": 1086.82, "text": " I live in a time where everything can be deleted." }, { "start": 1086.82, "end": 1088.4599999999998, "text": " I gotta say, I have to say I'm very disappointed." }, { "start": 1088.4599999999998, "end": 1090.2199999999998, "text": " This is the worst Vergecast." }, { "start": 1090.2199999999998, "end": 1091.86, "text": " Wow, that camera is so much faster." }, { "start": 1091.86, "end": 1092.6999999999998, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 1092.6999999999998, "end": 1093.54, "text": " Okay, so that's." }, { "start": 1093.54, "end": 1095.5, "text": " In all of these, somebody cares about this camera." }, { "start": 1095.5, "end": 1099.06, "text": " So this is a very, very big disappointment." }, { "start": 1099.06, "end": 1101.6599999999999, "text": " In the Nexus 5's defense, the iPhone 5S" }, { "start": 1101.6599999999999, "end": 1104.02, "text": " costs like $1,000 off contract." }, { "start": 1104.02, "end": 1106.06, "text": " And that costs like $350." }, { "start": 1106.06, "end": 1108.26, "text": " I will say this is kind of a." }, { "start": 1108.26, "end": 1110.94, "text": " But that's not an excuse for the speed of the software." }, { "start": 1110.94, "end": 1112.54, "text": " If it's gonna take terrible photos," }, { "start": 1112.54, "end": 1113.3799999999999, "text": " at least just do it fast." }, { "start": 1113.3799999999999, "end": 1117.8, "text": " Do we know what, that's based on the LG G2, right?" }, { "start": 1118.78, "end": 1121.22, "text": " G5." }, { "start": 1121.22, "end": 1122.82, "text": " G27." }, { "start": 1122.82, "end": 1123.82, "text": " It's based on the G2." }, { "start": 1123.82, "end": 1124.6599999999999, "text": " I mean, I think it's based on the G2." }, { "start": 1124.6599999999999, "end": 1126.8799999999999, "text": " But Paul just gave me the look like I said it wrong," }, { "start": 1126.8799999999999, "end": 1128.7, "text": " but then I realized that Paul doesn't actually know." }, { "start": 1128.7, "end": 1131.02, "text": " So he's just instinctively giving me the look" }, { "start": 1131.02, "end": 1131.8600000000001, "text": " like I think he's correct." }, { "start": 1131.8600000000001, "end": 1136.22, "text": " You know what, when rappers say like G6." }, { "start": 1136.22, "end": 1138.8600000000001, "text": " I thought that was like erroneous reference" }, { "start": 1138.8600000000001, "end": 1142.14, "text": " to like how they had the G4 and then the G5." }, { "start": 1142.14, "end": 1143.3, "text": " You thought it was a PowerPC reference." }, { "start": 1143.3, "end": 1145.38, "text": " I thought it was a PowerPC reference." }, { "start": 1145.38, "end": 1146.22, "text": " Really?" }, { "start": 1146.22, "end": 1147.06, "text": " I did not know that was a hit." }, { "start": 1147.06, "end": 1147.9, "text": " I can understand that." }, { "start": 1147.9, "end": 1151.44, "text": " You thought there was a hit club song about a PowerPC." }, { "start": 1151.44, "end": 1153.46, "text": " Yeah, like, you know." }, { "start": 1153.46, "end": 1154.74, "text": " Now I get it." }, { "start": 1154.74, "end": 1156.14, "text": " They're like trying to predict the future." }, { "start": 1156.14, "end": 1157.9, "text": " Like I already have a G6." }, { "start": 1157.9, "end": 1160.8600000000001, "text": " Just like when in Mission Impossible" }, { "start": 1160.8600000000001, "end": 1165.8600000000001, "text": " when Tom Cruise asks for a 486 processor or a 586 processor." }, { "start": 1165.98, "end": 1166.8600000000001, "text": " Oh my gosh." }, { "start": 1166.8600000000001, "end": 1169.0600000000002, "text": " Wait, did somebody say like that doesn't exist?" }, { "start": 1169.0600000000002, "end": 1170.22, "text": " No, they're like we have one" }, { "start": 1170.22, "end": 1171.5400000000002, "text": " because we're the secret agency." }, { "start": 1171.5400000000002, "end": 1172.3600000000001, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 1172.3600000000001, "end": 1174.94, "text": " They're like yeah, we'll just boot up on the 586 PC." }, { "start": 1174.94, "end": 1175.7800000000002, "text": " The PCX is a 586." }, { "start": 1175.7800000000002, "end": 1177.7, "text": " I just like the idea that you thought Like a G6" }, { "start": 1177.7, "end": 1181.8200000000002, "text": " was about like a never released MacBook Pro." }, { "start": 1181.8200000000002, "end": 1183.5, "text": " Can you imagine how good that would be" }, { "start": 1183.5, "end": 1186.5800000000002, "text": " back when with PowerPC architecture?" }, { "start": 1186.58, "end": 1188.06, "text": " Song was like three years ago." }, { "start": 1188.06, "end": 1190.02, "text": " You can really tell that you haven't been in New York." }, { "start": 1190.02, "end": 1190.86, "text": " It's really." }, { "start": 1190.86, "end": 1193.54, "text": " You're having not been in New York." }, { "start": 1193.54, "end": 1195.62, "text": " You really are wearing it on your sleeve." }, { "start": 1195.62, "end": 1196.46, "text": " All right." }, { "start": 1196.46, "end": 1198.78, "text": " Can we, let's talk about this phone." }, { "start": 1198.78, "end": 1199.62, "text": " We need to talk about the phone." }, { "start": 1199.62, "end": 1200.46, "text": " Let's talk about the phone." }, { "start": 1200.46, "end": 1201.78, "text": " So you've noticed a lot of differences" }, { "start": 1201.78, "end": 1202.62, "text": " since you've been playing with it." }, { "start": 1202.62, "end": 1204.06, "text": " There are some significant, I mean," }, { "start": 1204.06, "end": 1206.46, "text": " visually there are some little touches that I think." }, { "start": 1206.46, "end": 1209.78, "text": " So first off, it's got a couple of interesting features." }, { "start": 1209.78, "end": 1211.28, "text": " It has, it's always listening." }, { "start": 1211.28, "end": 1213.02, "text": " So you can say, okay, Google." }, { "start": 1213.02, "end": 1213.86, "text": " That's creepy." }, { "start": 1213.86, "end": 1215.3799999999999, "text": " I want everything to stop always listening." }, { "start": 1215.38, "end": 1216.9, "text": " It works really well except that." }, { "start": 1216.9, "end": 1218.3400000000001, "text": " How long does it take a picture of you?" }, { "start": 1218.3400000000001, "end": 1220.0200000000002, "text": " If you just talk to it." }, { "start": 1220.0200000000002, "end": 1220.8600000000001, "text": " What?" }, { "start": 1220.8600000000001, "end": 1222.14, "text": " How long does it take to take a picture" }, { "start": 1222.14, "end": 1223.14, "text": " if you just talk to it?" }, { "start": 1223.14, "end": 1224.22, "text": " What do you mean if you just talk to it?" }, { "start": 1224.22, "end": 1226.6200000000001, "text": " Like say, okay, Google, I want to take a picture." }, { "start": 1226.6200000000001, "end": 1227.8600000000001, "text": " Why would you do that?" }, { "start": 1227.8600000000001, "end": 1228.7, "text": " Well, it's." }, { "start": 1228.7, "end": 1229.5200000000002, "text": " I don't think that works." }, { "start": 1229.5200000000002, "end": 1230.3600000000001, "text": " Let's try it." }, { "start": 1230.3600000000001, "end": 1231.18, "text": " Does it work?" }, { "start": 1231.18, "end": 1232.4, "text": " Okay, Google, take a picture." }, { "start": 1233.7, "end": 1235.0400000000002, "text": " Yeah, it didn't work." }, { "start": 1235.0400000000002, "end": 1235.88, "text": " No." }, { "start": 1235.88, "end": 1236.7, "text": " It's picking up." }, { "start": 1236.7, "end": 1237.5400000000002, "text": " No." }, { "start": 1237.5400000000002, "end": 1238.38, "text": " What is it doing?" }, { "start": 1238.38, "end": 1239.5, "text": " Is it calling your friend picture?" }, { "start": 1239.5, "end": 1240.3400000000001, "text": " I don't think we all." }, { "start": 1240.3400000000001, "end": 1242.22, "text": " How is that more convenient than just hitting the button?" }, { "start": 1242.22, "end": 1243.5800000000002, "text": " I'm just saying the button's slow." }, { "start": 1243.5800000000002, "end": 1245.18, "text": " So maybe the, I don't know." }, { "start": 1245.18, "end": 1246.9, "text": " That's an insane premise." }, { "start": 1246.9, "end": 1248.46, "text": " Oh, they finally turned the air on in here." }, { "start": 1248.46, "end": 1249.3, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1249.3, "end": 1250.1200000000001, "text": " I've been asking for this for." }, { "start": 1250.1200000000001, "end": 1250.96, "text": " This is delightful." }, { "start": 1250.96, "end": 1252.18, "text": " Minutes and hours." }, { "start": 1252.18, "end": 1253.02, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1253.02, "end": 1255.42, "text": " What feels like hours but was actually several minutes." }, { "start": 1255.42, "end": 1257.0600000000002, "text": " So anyhow, there's some visual changes," }, { "start": 1257.0600000000002, "end": 1259.8, "text": " some pretty notable if you've used" }, { "start": 1259.8, "end": 1260.98, "text": " the previous version of Android," }, { "start": 1260.98, "end": 1263.68, "text": " some pretty notable visual changes." }, { "start": 1263.68, "end": 1265.7, "text": " They've tweaked the dialer with some really interesting" }, { "start": 1265.7, "end": 1266.8200000000002, "text": " new features which is." }, { "start": 1266.8200000000002, "end": 1269.6200000000001, "text": " Oh, sorry, I just saw the B roll and I." }, { "start": 1269.6200000000001, "end": 1270.46, "text": " Go ahead." }, { "start": 1270.46, "end": 1271.28, "text": " What's happening?" }, { "start": 1271.28, "end": 1272.1200000000001, "text": " Hangouts." }, { "start": 1272.1200000000001, "end": 1272.96, "text": " Yeah, hangouts." }, { "start": 1272.96, "end": 1273.78, "text": " We'll get to that." }, { "start": 1273.78, "end": 1274.6200000000001, "text": " The dialer has some really interesting new features" }, { "start": 1274.62, "end": 1276.26, "text": " that if you search for pizza in your dialer," }, { "start": 1276.26, "end": 1277.82, "text": " it'll find like if you have like pizza joint" }, { "start": 1277.82, "end": 1279.34, "text": " is a saved thing, whatever it'll find it." }, { "start": 1279.34, "end": 1280.7399999999998, "text": " No, I think it also has like the yellow page." }, { "start": 1280.7399999999998, "end": 1281.58, "text": " It's the yellow page." }, { "start": 1281.58, "end": 1283.84, "text": " No, no, yeah, it'll, I think it's Google Maps." }, { "start": 1283.84, "end": 1285.82, "text": " I don't think it's the yellow pages." }, { "start": 1285.82, "end": 1287.3799999999999, "text": " I mean, why would it be the yellow pages?" }, { "start": 1287.3799999999999, "end": 1288.2199999999998, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 1288.2199999999998, "end": 1289.36, "text": " Of all things to build in," }, { "start": 1289.36, "end": 1291.62, "text": " why would Google build in a thing that they don't own?" }, { "start": 1291.62, "end": 1292.4599999999998, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 1292.4599999999998, "end": 1293.3, "text": " Search for something." }, { "start": 1293.3, "end": 1294.12, "text": " Search for something." }, { "start": 1294.12, "end": 1295.7399999999998, "text": " Well, okay, fine, I'll search for pizza." }, { "start": 1295.7399999999998, "end": 1297.4399999999998, "text": " No, go to like Pizza Hut." }, { "start": 1297.4399999999998, "end": 1298.76, "text": " Pizza Hut." }, { "start": 1298.76, "end": 1300.9399999999998, "text": " Here's Little Italy pizza ready to Pizza Hut" }, { "start": 1300.9399999999998, "end": 1303.06, "text": " in Pennsylvania Plaza, oh, Penn Plaza." }, { "start": 1303.06, "end": 1303.8999999999999, "text": " Oh." }, { "start": 1303.9, "end": 1304.74, "text": " I was gonna say Pizza Hut." }, { "start": 1304.74, "end": 1305.5800000000002, "text": " Pennsylvania." }, { "start": 1305.5800000000002, "end": 1307.22, "text": " That's how cool New York is." }, { "start": 1307.22, "end": 1309.74, "text": " The nearest Pizza Hut is in Pennsylvania." }, { "start": 1309.74, "end": 1313.74, "text": " But SMS is now built into Hangouts." }, { "start": 1313.74, "end": 1315.22, "text": " Emoji is now." }, { "start": 1315.22, "end": 1317.18, "text": " So does it work just like iMessage" }, { "start": 1317.18, "end": 1319.2, "text": " where you get a different color text" }, { "start": 1319.2, "end": 1321.74, "text": " or somehow notified that you're doing a Hangout?" }, { "start": 1321.74, "end": 1323.18, "text": " No, I haven't put my SIM in this phone yet," }, { "start": 1323.18, "end": 1324.02, "text": " so I don't know." }, { "start": 1324.02, "end": 1325.2, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1325.2, "end": 1326.18, "text": " There's an SMS tag." }, { "start": 1326.18, "end": 1327.02, "text": " There's an SMS tag." }, { "start": 1327.02, "end": 1327.8600000000001, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1328.9, "end": 1333.3400000000001, "text": " By the way, like since Mavericks" }, { "start": 1333.34, "end": 1335.98, "text": " started to get messaging a little bit better," }, { "start": 1335.98, "end": 1337.6999999999998, "text": " a little more integrated," }, { "start": 1337.6999999999998, "end": 1339.6599999999999, "text": " I've been like letting my phone die" }, { "start": 1339.6599999999999, "end": 1341.06, "text": " for like a week at a time." }, { "start": 1341.06, "end": 1341.8999999999999, "text": " Paul, Paul, Paul." }, { "start": 1341.8999999999999, "end": 1343.1799999999998, "text": " And doing all of my texting." }, { "start": 1343.1799999999998, "end": 1344.02, "text": " That's not a change." }, { "start": 1344.02, "end": 1345.1399999999999, "text": " With my computer." }, { "start": 1346.1399999999999, "end": 1347.62, "text": " That's not new in the app, bro." }, { "start": 1347.62, "end": 1348.62, "text": " That's just Paul." }, { "start": 1348.62, "end": 1349.4599999999998, "text": " People without iPhones." }, { "start": 1349.4599999999998, "end": 1350.3, "text": " That's just you." }, { "start": 1350.3, "end": 1351.12, "text": " That's just you." }, { "start": 1351.12, "end": 1351.9599999999998, "text": " Don't exist to me." }, { "start": 1351.9599999999998, "end": 1352.78, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1352.78, "end": 1353.62, "text": " And it's great." }, { "start": 1353.62, "end": 1354.4599999999998, "text": " I like all of these people." }, { "start": 1354.4599999999998, "end": 1355.3, "text": " I guess that's why you have a hand in touch." }, { "start": 1355.3, "end": 1356.1399999999999, "text": " I think it makes you a racist." }, { "start": 1356.1399999999999, "end": 1356.9599999999998, "text": " What?" }, { "start": 1356.9599999999998, "end": 1357.8, "text": " Yeah, you're racist because people are like that." }, { "start": 1357.8, "end": 1358.6399999999999, "text": " That's not racist." }, { "start": 1358.6399999999999, "end": 1359.9599999999998, "text": " I mean the difference in room temperature right now." }, { "start": 1359.9599999999998, "end": 1360.8, "text": " That's not racist, it's true." }, { "start": 1360.8, "end": 1362.22, "text": " Having actually turned on." }, { "start": 1362.22, "end": 1364.8600000000001, "text": " Well that's what racists say about racism." }, { "start": 1364.8600000000001, "end": 1365.7, "text": " Yeah, right." }, { "start": 1365.7, "end": 1368.3, "text": " That's not racist, it's just true." }, { "start": 1368.3, "end": 1369.66, "text": " That's just, no that's racist." }, { "start": 1369.66, "end": 1370.82, "text": " Yeah, that's not really an argument." }, { "start": 1370.82, "end": 1372.42, "text": " Like that's not really a way you win an argument" }, { "start": 1372.42, "end": 1375.22, "text": " is you just say, no I'm not wrong." }, { "start": 1375.22, "end": 1376.06, "text": " I'm just saying how it is." }, { "start": 1376.06, "end": 1378.5, "text": " It's basically saying like I'm not wrong, I'm right." }, { "start": 1378.5, "end": 1379.34, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1380.66, "end": 1382.02, "text": " I'm not wrong, I'm right." }, { "start": 1383.14, "end": 1383.98, "text": " Talking about." }, { "start": 1383.98, "end": 1385.54, "text": " That's exactly correct." }, { "start": 1385.54, "end": 1386.3600000000001, "text": " Thank you." }, { "start": 1386.3600000000001, "end": 1387.2, "text": " It's not racist." }, { "start": 1387.2, "end": 1388.04, "text": " People with iPhones are dead to me." }, { "start": 1388.04, "end": 1388.8600000000001, "text": " You heard it here first folks." }, { "start": 1388.8600000000001, "end": 1389.78, "text": " It's not racist, it's true." }, { "start": 1389.78, "end": 1391.26, "text": " On a scale of one to 10," }, { "start": 1391.26, "end": 1393.58, "text": " 10 being the worst Vergecast ever," }, { "start": 1393.58, "end": 1395.42, "text": " and one being the best Vergecast ever," }, { "start": 1395.42, "end": 1397.34, "text": " this is like a 400." }, { "start": 1397.34, "end": 1398.62, "text": " That's like what number is this?" }, { "start": 1398.62, "end": 1400.7, "text": " We're trying to focus on the gadget." }, { "start": 1400.7, "end": 1402.46, "text": " Anyhow, so what else is going on?" }, { "start": 1402.46, "end": 1407.46, "text": " It's got a, it's visually refined." }, { "start": 1407.94, "end": 1409.9, "text": " Right, so here's the big question on this phone." }, { "start": 1409.9, "end": 1412.3, "text": " And we ran a post on it too." }, { "start": 1412.3, "end": 1413.9, "text": " KitKat's gonna come to a whole bunch of other phones." }, { "start": 1413.9, "end": 1414.74, "text": " Yes, supposedly." }, { "start": 1414.74, "end": 1415.9, "text": " It's gonna come to the Nexus 4," }, { "start": 1415.9, "end": 1417.26, "text": " it's gonna come to the Google Play ones." }, { "start": 1417.26, "end": 1419.3799999999999, "text": " Yeah, it needs to come to like real phones." }, { "start": 1419.38, "end": 1421.8600000000001, "text": " But then it's supposed to be one with Google Play" }, { "start": 1421.8600000000001, "end": 1422.7, "text": " as a real phone." }, { "start": 1422.7, "end": 1423.5400000000002, "text": " That's a real phone." }, { "start": 1423.5400000000002, "end": 1424.38, "text": " Reduced system." }, { "start": 1424.38, "end": 1426.8200000000002, "text": " Yeah, but three people in the world own them." }, { "start": 1426.8200000000002, "end": 1428.7, "text": " Right, but why would you buy this phone" }, { "start": 1428.7, "end": 1432.48, "text": " instead of the GS4 with KitKat or," }, { "start": 1432.48, "end": 1433.38, "text": " because it's cheaper." }, { "start": 1433.38, "end": 1434.5800000000002, "text": " I mean, honestly it's cheaper," }, { "start": 1434.5800000000002, "end": 1437.2600000000002, "text": " but also I think the hardware is like a little bit," }, { "start": 1437.2600000000002, "end": 1438.46, "text": " I mean it's not nicer than the One," }, { "start": 1438.46, "end": 1440.2600000000002, "text": " but I like the fact that it has a very small bezel" }, { "start": 1440.2600000000002, "end": 1441.7800000000002, "text": " and these like very sharp edges." }, { "start": 1441.7800000000002, "end": 1443.3400000000001, "text": " I don't know, I think I would," }, { "start": 1443.3400000000001, "end": 1446.3200000000002, "text": " this definitely will be a replacement for the GS4." }, { "start": 1446.3200000000002, "end": 1447.16, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1447.16, "end": 1448.7, "text": " Well, the Moto X has already been a replacement," }, { "start": 1448.7, "end": 1450.1000000000001, "text": " but this will replace the Moto X." }, { "start": 1450.1000000000001, "end": 1452.7, "text": " Especially now they've put that sombrero app on it." }, { "start": 1452.7, "end": 1454.06, "text": " What's this for?" }, { "start": 1454.06, "end": 1456.98, "text": " Which is like, I woke up today" }, { "start": 1456.98, "end": 1459.66, "text": " and like accidentally hit a sombrero" }, { "start": 1459.66, "end": 1463.8600000000001, "text": " and was taken into like a magical 3D adventure on my phone." }, { "start": 1463.8600000000001, "end": 1466.5, "text": " Seriously, Motorola, like what are you thinking?" }, { "start": 1466.5, "end": 1468.1000000000001, "text": " It's like you force an app onto my phone" }, { "start": 1468.1000000000001, "end": 1468.94, "text": " that literally invades." }, { "start": 1468.94, "end": 1469.96, "text": " I thought, did everybody get this," }, { "start": 1469.96, "end": 1470.8, "text": " or is it just for viewers?" }, { "start": 1470.8, "end": 1472.38, "text": " No, I think everybody got it." }, { "start": 1472.38, "end": 1474.8600000000001, "text": " I don't think, look, it's this thing." }, { "start": 1474.8600000000001, "end": 1476.2, "text": " Where is it?" }, { "start": 1476.2, "end": 1477.26, "text": " Now it's not here." }, { "start": 1477.26, "end": 1478.1000000000001, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1478.1, "end": 1478.9399999999998, "text": " It was floating around." }, { "start": 1478.9399999999998, "end": 1482.02, "text": " So, Moto X owners yesterday, I saw one of these two." }, { "start": 1483.1399999999999, "end": 1483.98, "text": " A hat." }, { "start": 1483.98, "end": 1484.8, "text": " Oh, here it is." }, { "start": 1484.8, "end": 1485.6399999999999, "text": " A red hat." }, { "start": 1485.6399999999999, "end": 1486.4599999999998, "text": " A windy day." }, { "start": 1486.4599999999998, "end": 1489.82, "text": " Yeah, this thing, you see that hat floating through?" }, { "start": 1489.82, "end": 1490.6599999999999, "text": " It's just floating around." }, { "start": 1490.6599999999999, "end": 1492.62, "text": " Okay, now I'm in a magical adventure." }, { "start": 1492.62, "end": 1494.26, "text": " It's cool, it's really cool." }, { "start": 1494.26, "end": 1496.2199999999998, "text": " But like when you wake up at eight in the morning" }, { "start": 1496.2199999999998, "end": 1500.78, "text": " and you're like doing this magical adventure" }, { "start": 1500.78, "end": 1504.34, "text": " and there's like a flute playing, it's crazy." }, { "start": 1504.34, "end": 1506.02, "text": " This is awesome." }, { "start": 1506.02, "end": 1508.1399999999999, "text": " We've lost Paul, he's gone now." }, { "start": 1508.1399999999999, "end": 1511.02, "text": " You're not gonna need to refill on this whiskey." }, { "start": 1511.02, "end": 1511.9, "text": " Thank you, Ross." }, { "start": 1511.9, "end": 1512.82, "text": " You're a really good man." }, { "start": 1512.82, "end": 1513.66, "text": " Ross is in costume today." }, { "start": 1513.66, "end": 1514.94, "text": " It's like you're just looking through a window" }, { "start": 1514.94, "end": 1515.9, "text": " into a forest." }, { "start": 1515.9, "end": 1516.74, "text": " Ross is in costume." }, { "start": 1516.74, "end": 1517.56, "text": " Ross, come on in." }, { "start": 1517.56, "end": 1518.66, "text": " Come on over here." }, { "start": 1518.66, "end": 1519.58, "text": " He's in Ross' costume." }, { "start": 1519.58, "end": 1521.02, "text": " Yeah, but why are you in a costume?" }, { "start": 1521.02, "end": 1522.1399999999999, "text": " Show us your costume today." }, { "start": 1522.1399999999999, "end": 1522.98, "text": " Yeah, there it is." }, { "start": 1522.98, "end": 1525.02, "text": " This is whimsy right here." }, { "start": 1525.02, "end": 1525.86, "text": " This is whimsy?" }, { "start": 1525.86, "end": 1526.7, "text": " This is whimsy." }, { "start": 1526.7, "end": 1527.7, "text": " Thank you." }, { "start": 1527.7, "end": 1530.26, "text": " Why is Motorola just randomly delivering whimsy to you?" }, { "start": 1530.26, "end": 1532.06, "text": " Yeah, I'm cool with whimsy." }, { "start": 1532.06, "end": 1535.08, "text": " Just don't force it on my phone at eight in the morning." }, { "start": 1535.08, "end": 1536.1799999999998, "text": " Give me that." }, { "start": 1536.1799999999998, "end": 1537.6599999999999, "text": " That's like a 10 a.m. sort of thing." }, { "start": 1537.6599999999999, "end": 1538.6999999999998, "text": " What do you do, you touch the hat?" }, { "start": 1538.6999999999998, "end": 1539.86, "text": " Do you see the little guy come out?" }, { "start": 1539.86, "end": 1540.6999999999998, "text": " No." }, { "start": 1540.6999999999998, "end": 1542.02, "text": " Look, here he is, he's sweeping." }, { "start": 1542.02, "end": 1542.86, "text": " Look, look, look." }, { "start": 1542.86, "end": 1543.6999999999998, "text": " Do you see him?" }, { "start": 1543.6999999999998, "end": 1545.1, "text": " He's like a little mouse." }, { "start": 1545.1, "end": 1546.26, "text": " We're looking in like the opposite direction though." }, { "start": 1546.26, "end": 1547.46, "text": " Oh, here, you gotta." }, { "start": 1547.46, "end": 1548.8999999999999, "text": " I mean, I have to say, look, look, look." }, { "start": 1548.8999999999999, "end": 1550.4199999999998, "text": " Here's the problem with cell phones." }, { "start": 1550.4199999999998, "end": 1551.26, "text": " This is really cool." }, { "start": 1551.26, "end": 1554.54, "text": " Let me just lay out what the problem with cell phones" }, { "start": 1554.54, "end": 1555.9399999999998, "text": " in this day and ages." }, { "start": 1555.9399999999998, "end": 1557.74, "text": " We have a brand new cell phone" }, { "start": 1557.74, "end": 1559.54, "text": " with a brand new version of Android" }, { "start": 1559.54, "end": 1562.78, "text": " and we are actively ignoring it for an old cell phone" }, { "start": 1562.78, "end": 1564.98, "text": " with a hat that's playing a flute song" }, { "start": 1564.98, "end": 1567.14, "text": " with a mouse chasing the hat." }, { "start": 1567.14, "end": 1567.98, "text": " I see the mouse, I see the mouse." }, { "start": 1567.98, "end": 1569.22, "text": " I see the mouse, I get it." }, { "start": 1569.22, "end": 1570.06, "text": " What's under the hat?" }, { "start": 1570.06, "end": 1571.5, "text": " But we're all way more excited about the mouse" }, { "start": 1571.5, "end": 1573.3, "text": " than we are about the Nexus 5." }, { "start": 1573.3, "end": 1574.46, "text": " Is there like a dude under there?" }, { "start": 1574.46, "end": 1575.3, "text": " Errors under the hat." }, { "start": 1575.3, "end": 1576.14, "text": " Oh, it's like float." }, { "start": 1576.14, "end": 1579.8600000000001, "text": " And I would submit to you that that says something" }, { "start": 1579.8600000000001, "end": 1581.38, "text": " about the state of our industry." }, { "start": 1581.38, "end": 1582.22, "text": " Oh, here it is." }, { "start": 1582.22, "end": 1583.06, "text": " We have a video of it." }, { "start": 1583.06, "end": 1584.18, "text": " Of the hat?" }, { "start": 1584.18, "end": 1585.18, "text": " Oh, the five." }, { "start": 1585.18, "end": 1586.6200000000001, "text": " Yeah, look how much they're enjoying it." }, { "start": 1586.6200000000001, "end": 1590, "text": " Like, hey, this woke me up and now I'm living an adventure." }, { "start": 1591.46, "end": 1592.8600000000001, "text": " This guy's like, what's happening on my phone?" }, { "start": 1592.8600000000001, "end": 1594.94, "text": " I just wanted to send an email and now I'm chasing it." }, { "start": 1594.94, "end": 1596.74, "text": " I'm chasing around a rat in a hat." }, { "start": 1596.74, "end": 1600.94, "text": " Like, I wish this was not, this is real." }, { "start": 1600.94, "end": 1602.18, "text": " But that's not, do we?" }, { "start": 1602.18, "end": 1603.8600000000001, "text": " Like, guys, cool, you went to Brooklyn." }, { "start": 1603.8600000000001, "end": 1604.7, "text": " We're happy for you." }, { "start": 1604.7, "end": 1605.54, "text": " This is like a shared experience" }, { "start": 1605.54, "end": 1606.42, "text": " that people are having right now." }, { "start": 1606.42, "end": 1607.94, "text": " Yeah, in Brooklyn." }, { "start": 1607.94, "end": 1610.74, "text": " It's like, only people in Brooklyn." }, { "start": 1610.74, "end": 1613.1000000000001, "text": " Wait, so do you show up as the rat" }, { "start": 1613.1000000000001, "end": 1613.94, "text": " for all the other people?" }, { "start": 1613.94, "end": 1614.88, "text": " You don't understand." }, { "start": 1614.88, "end": 1615.72, "text": " I don't understand." }, { "start": 1615.72, "end": 1619.78, "text": " It's not a massive multiplayer online." }, { "start": 1619.78, "end": 1620.6200000000001, "text": " It should be." }, { "start": 1622.02, "end": 1623.9, "text": " I don't know, I think I'm pro hat." }, { "start": 1623.9, "end": 1625.26, "text": " Yeah, let's talk about the Nexus 5." }, { "start": 1625.26, "end": 1626.9, "text": " It's impossible to talk about the Nexus 5." }, { "start": 1626.9, "end": 1628.46, "text": " That's kind of what we're saying." }, { "start": 1628.46, "end": 1631.1000000000001, "text": " It's weird, because it's a Google-owned company." }, { "start": 1631.1000000000001, "end": 1632.94, "text": " I think they would have waited a day to roll it." }, { "start": 1632.94, "end": 1634.74, "text": " Anyhow, that's not important." }, { "start": 1634.74, "end": 1637.5800000000002, "text": " The Nexus 5, though, this is the thing about the Nexus 5." }, { "start": 1637.5800000000002, "end": 1639.02, "text": " 16 gig." }, { "start": 1639.02, "end": 1639.8600000000001, "text": " It's 349." }, { "start": 1639.8600000000001, "end": 1642.8200000000002, "text": " LTE, nice display." }, { "start": 1642.8200000000002, "end": 1646.4, "text": " Obviously, cutting-edge software, LTE, 349, off contract." }, { "start": 1646.4, "end": 1647.42, "text": " Take it to whatever carrier you want," }, { "start": 1647.42, "end": 1649.26, "text": " as long as it's not Verizon." }, { "start": 1649.26, "end": 1650.1000000000001, "text": " And Sprint." }, { "start": 1650.1000000000001, "end": 1650.92, "text": " By the way, the Verizon-" }, { "start": 1650.92, "end": 1651.76, "text": " I'll just sign the Sprint version." }, { "start": 1651.76, "end": 1652.8200000000002, "text": " The Verizon-Google relationship" }, { "start": 1652.82, "end": 1654.8999999999999, "text": " continues to just be a disaster, as far as I can tell." }, { "start": 1654.8999999999999, "end": 1657.7, "text": " Well, I mean, Verizon has set itself up as the," }, { "start": 1657.7, "end": 1658.54, "text": " they are the-" }, { "start": 1658.54, "end": 1659.3799999999999, "text": " As the evil carrier." }, { "start": 1659.3799999999999, "end": 1661.86, "text": " They're the enemy of neutrality, net neutrality, and freedom." }, { "start": 1661.86, "end": 1664.1, "text": " They're like Steve Carell and Despicable Me." }, { "start": 1664.1, "end": 1665.9199999999998, "text": " I haven't seen it, spoiler alert, okay?" }, { "start": 1665.9199999999998, "end": 1667.06, "text": " Yeah, they're the enemy of choice," }, { "start": 1667.06, "end": 1668.1799999999998, "text": " and then their winning argument is," }, { "start": 1668.1799999999998, "end": 1669.74, "text": " by the way, our network works all the time." }, { "start": 1669.74, "end": 1670.8999999999999, "text": " Yeah, but I mean, you know what?" }, { "start": 1670.8999999999999, "end": 1673.22, "text": " Whatever, AT&T services have been fine for me." }, { "start": 1673.22, "end": 1674.46, "text": " I can't remember the last time I was like," }, { "start": 1674.46, "end": 1676.34, "text": " damn you, AT&T, how dare you?" }, { "start": 1676.34, "end": 1677.1799999999998, "text": " I can think of that time." }, { "start": 1677.1799999999998, "end": 1678.02, "text": " Well, in our building." }, { "start": 1678.02, "end": 1678.86, "text": " In our building." }, { "start": 1678.86, "end": 1679.6799999999998, "text": " It's in our building." }, { "start": 1679.6799999999998, "end": 1681.3, "text": " I'm doing pretty good on T-Mobile." }, { "start": 1681.3, "end": 1682.82, "text": " Every time I walk out of an elevator" }, { "start": 1682.82, "end": 1684.4199999999998, "text": " and it picks up 4G first," }, { "start": 1684.4199999999998, "end": 1685.46, "text": " and I have to flip back and forth" }, { "start": 1685.46, "end": 1689.4199999999998, "text": " in the airplane mode to get it to hit LTE, I curse." }, { "start": 1689.4199999999998, "end": 1693.3, "text": " I definitely seriously consider T-Mobile all the time." }, { "start": 1693.3, "end": 1694.82, "text": " No, don't do that." }, { "start": 1694.82, "end": 1697.2, "text": " Let's talk about the Nexus 5 for just one second, okay?" }, { "start": 1697.2, "end": 1698.58, "text": " I just wanna say a few things." }, { "start": 1698.58, "end": 1700.6599999999999, "text": " You could get the Nexus 5 on T-Mobile." }, { "start": 1700.6599999999999, "end": 1701.94, "text": " Yeah, I just wanna say a few things about it." }, { "start": 1701.94, "end": 1704.78, "text": " I think that from a software perspective," }, { "start": 1704.78, "end": 1707.3799999999999, "text": " Google took what was very good and has made it better." }, { "start": 1707.3799999999999, "end": 1708.22, "text": " I think there's actually some-" }, { "start": 1708.22, "end": 1710.82, "text": " And it's slower, speaking to older phones," }, { "start": 1710.82, "end": 1713.02, "text": " it's slower system requirements." }, { "start": 1713.02, "end": 1717.06, "text": " This is like the Windows 8 of-" }, { "start": 1717.06, "end": 1717.8999999999999, "text": " Or Windows 7." }, { "start": 1717.8999999999999, "end": 1719.1399999999999, "text": " Or Windows 7, rather, of-" }, { "start": 1719.1399999999999, "end": 1719.98, "text": " Of Android." }, { "start": 1719.98, "end": 1720.8, "text": " Of Android, yeah." }, { "start": 1720.8, "end": 1724.8999999999999, "text": " But, you know, the one, honestly," }, { "start": 1724.8999999999999, "end": 1726.8999999999999, "text": " and I'll say this, the one place" }, { "start": 1726.8999999999999, "end": 1731.8999999999999, "text": " where every single Android phone is awful," }, { "start": 1732.1399999999999, "end": 1734.82, "text": " or near awful, is the camera." }, { "start": 1734.82, "end": 1736.8999999999999, "text": " And there was an opportunity here," }, { "start": 1736.8999999999999, "end": 1738.56, "text": " there is always an opportunity for somebody" }, { "start": 1738.56, "end": 1741.5, "text": " to make a great Android phone with a great camera." }, { "start": 1741.5, "end": 1743.94, "text": " Not anymore, because Microsoft bought Nokia, right?" }, { "start": 1743.94, "end": 1744.78, "text": " Am I right?" }, { "start": 1744.78, "end": 1745.62, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1745.62, "end": 1746.46, "text": " And nobody does it." }, { "start": 1746.46, "end": 1748.22, "text": " And nobody does it, and it's-" }, { "start": 1748.22, "end": 1750.1, "text": " I actually wanna know how long you've been waiting" }, { "start": 1750.1, "end": 1750.94, "text": " for that." }, { "start": 1750.94, "end": 1751.78, "text": " Yeah, seriously, I mean, we also just-" }, { "start": 1751.78, "end": 1752.7, "text": " Was it months?" }, { "start": 1752.7, "end": 1753.54, "text": " Well, Nokia's the only-" }, { "start": 1753.54, "end": 1756.1799999999998, "text": " Do you have like a laughs journal in Colorado?" }, { "start": 1756.1799999999998, "end": 1758.46, "text": " Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah." }, { "start": 1758.46, "end": 1759.3, "text": " I could go for a daycare." }, { "start": 1759.3, "end": 1760.1399999999999, "text": " You just wait." }, { "start": 1760.1399999999999, "end": 1761.78, "text": " Thanks, what's happening there?" }, { "start": 1761.78, "end": 1763.4199999999998, "text": " Oh, great, Ross has me a drink." }, { "start": 1763.4199999999998, "end": 1765.62, "text": " Well, we need to add to this mix right now is alcohol." }, { "start": 1765.62, "end": 1767.8799999999999, "text": " Thank you, but what I wanna say is," }, { "start": 1767.88, "end": 1770.9, "text": " it's disappointing to me, you know," }, { "start": 1770.9, "end": 1773.22, "text": " everything else about this phone feels very high quality." }, { "start": 1773.22, "end": 1774.0600000000002, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1774.0600000000002, "end": 1775.3400000000001, "text": " It really does, it feels like a really nicely made phone." }, { "start": 1775.3400000000001, "end": 1776.18, "text": " It's awesome." }, { "start": 1776.18, "end": 1777.74, "text": " And the software is very elegant." }, { "start": 1777.74, "end": 1778.5800000000002, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1778.5800000000002, "end": 1781.7, "text": " More elegant than it's ever been, as far as Android goes." }, { "start": 1781.7, "end": 1783.66, "text": " Yeah, they keep cleaning up." }, { "start": 1783.66, "end": 1786.7800000000002, "text": " The camera, it's like, if I can't take a picture of my dog" }, { "start": 1786.7800000000002, "end": 1790.94, "text": " on the sofa at night, in low light, with good results-" }, { "start": 1790.94, "end": 1792.66, "text": " Without it looking like it's somehow-" }, { "start": 1792.66, "end": 1793.5, "text": " You lost my vote." }, { "start": 1793.5, "end": 1794.3400000000001, "text": " You're spinning in a chair." }, { "start": 1794.3400000000001, "end": 1796.0600000000002, "text": " No, that's what I'm saying, and the only difference is," }, { "start": 1796.06, "end": 1799.54, "text": " as far as I can tell, between this camera" }, { "start": 1799.54, "end": 1802.06, "text": " and the one that Samsung ships, and the GS4," }, { "start": 1802.06, "end": 1804.22, "text": " and the one that HTC is shipping in the One," }, { "start": 1804.22, "end": 1806.62, "text": " which is slightly better, but still just okay," }, { "start": 1806.62, "end": 1810.1, "text": " and Apple's, and Nokia's, is that those people care," }, { "start": 1810.1, "end": 1811.4199999999998, "text": " and Google doesn't seem to care" }, { "start": 1811.4199999999998, "end": 1812.94, "text": " about the camera on stock devices." }, { "start": 1812.94, "end": 1814.74, "text": " I mean, it's capable of taking good photos." }, { "start": 1814.74, "end": 1816.1799999999998, "text": " But it's like, it's kind of like," }, { "start": 1816.1799999999998, "end": 1818.82, "text": " that's a super easy photo to take." }, { "start": 1818.82, "end": 1819.6599999999999, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1819.6599999999999, "end": 1820.6, "text": " Like, of something that's not moving," }, { "start": 1820.6, "end": 1822.1399999999999, "text": " with a giant light pointed at it." }, { "start": 1822.1399999999999, "end": 1822.98, "text": " You're right." }, { "start": 1822.98, "end": 1824.7, "text": " Like, that's not gonna, there isn't a camera," }, { "start": 1824.7, "end": 1826.3400000000001, "text": " a modern camera that can't take a good photo" }, { "start": 1826.3400000000001, "end": 1827.3, "text": " in that condition." }, { "start": 1827.3, "end": 1828.14, "text": " The problem is-" }, { "start": 1828.14, "end": 1829.14, "text": " That was terrible." }, { "start": 1829.14, "end": 1830.3, "text": " The problem is that I don't think Google" }, { "start": 1830.3, "end": 1831.14, "text": " has any incentive." }, { "start": 1831.14, "end": 1832.22, "text": " Like you said, they don't even sell," }, { "start": 1832.22, "end": 1833.3, "text": " like, a thousand of those." }, { "start": 1833.3, "end": 1834.9, "text": " Well, that's the thing, is that it feels like" }, { "start": 1834.9, "end": 1836.54, "text": " all of these Nexus phones are just like," }, { "start": 1836.54, "end": 1837.74, "text": " kiddie joke phones." }, { "start": 1837.74, "end": 1838.78, "text": " Like, they're just doing them as a joke," }, { "start": 1838.78, "end": 1841.1000000000001, "text": " some kind of weird joke to make everybody laugh." }, { "start": 1841.1000000000001, "end": 1841.94, "text": " To push the platform." }, { "start": 1841.94, "end": 1842.78, "text": " To make everybody laugh hysterically." }, { "start": 1842.78, "end": 1843.6000000000001, "text": " We know Motorola did-" }, { "start": 1843.6000000000001, "end": 1846.22, "text": " Yeah, to push the platform with the last generation" }, { "start": 1846.22, "end": 1847.54, "text": " LG chassis." }, { "start": 1847.54, "end": 1848.46, "text": " Well, no, this is a modern-" }, { "start": 1848.46, "end": 1849.82, "text": " Well, the newest generation," }, { "start": 1849.82, "end": 1851.3400000000001, "text": " but they've already released the phone." }, { "start": 1851.3400000000001, "end": 1852.72, "text": " It's not like they were like," }, { "start": 1852.72, "end": 1855.02, "text": " we just set the bar really high, now LG's gonna come out" }, { "start": 1855.02, "end": 1856.52, "text": " with their device that's like this." }, { "start": 1856.52, "end": 1857.3600000000001, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 1857.3600000000001, "end": 1858.2, "text": " It's the other way around." }, { "start": 1858.2, "end": 1859.02, "text": " I don't know why they don't just use," }, { "start": 1859.02, "end": 1862.02, "text": " like let Motorola build all the camera stuff," }, { "start": 1862.02, "end": 1863.58, "text": " and then like take that and use it." }, { "start": 1863.58, "end": 1865.3, "text": " Well, how much better is the camera on that?" }, { "start": 1865.3, "end": 1866.26, "text": " Well, it's better." }, { "start": 1866.26, "end": 1868.8600000000001, "text": " You know, Motorola, to get past carrier crap today," }, { "start": 1868.8600000000001, "end": 1869.7, "text": " released their camera app on Google Play." }, { "start": 1869.7, "end": 1871.1000000000001, "text": " Yeah, let me see how this fares." }, { "start": 1871.1000000000001, "end": 1873.26, "text": " Can you put the Motorola Google Play camera app" }, { "start": 1873.26, "end": 1874.42, "text": " onto that phone?" }, { "start": 1874.42, "end": 1875.38, "text": " Would that make it better?" }, { "start": 1875.38, "end": 1876.58, "text": " I don't think you can do that." }, { "start": 1876.58, "end": 1877.4, "text": " That'd be wild." }, { "start": 1877.4, "end": 1879.3, "text": " So yeah, to get around Verizon and AT&T" }, { "start": 1879.3, "end": 1881.46, "text": " and all the stuff," }, { "start": 1881.46, "end": 1883.8600000000001, "text": " Motorola just put its app in the store today," }, { "start": 1883.8600000000001, "end": 1885.1000000000001, "text": " which I think is very clever." }, { "start": 1885.1000000000001, "end": 1887.8600000000001, "text": " Oh yeah, this is not, by comparison, I mean." }, { "start": 1887.8600000000001, "end": 1889.3, "text": " Well, I don't think the Moto X camera's gonna give you." }, { "start": 1889.3, "end": 1891.42, "text": " Again, by the way, another bad picture of you." }, { "start": 1891.42, "end": 1892.32, "text": " God, stop it." }, { "start": 1892.32, "end": 1893.6200000000001, "text": " I don't know why that's happening." }, { "start": 1893.6200000000001, "end": 1894.44, "text": " I really don't." }, { "start": 1894.44, "end": 1895.28, "text": " Let's see here." }, { "start": 1895.28, "end": 1898.56, "text": " I just look sad or drunk in all these photos," }, { "start": 1898.56, "end": 1901.74, "text": " which to be honest is really my natural state." }, { "start": 1901.74, "end": 1902.58, "text": " I mean, actually the-" }, { "start": 1902.58, "end": 1903.66, "text": " Paul looks very handsome in that one." }, { "start": 1903.66, "end": 1906.18, "text": " Yeah, here's what's going on in this picture with Paul." }, { "start": 1906.18, "end": 1907.3, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1907.3, "end": 1909.32, "text": " I mean, it's just blurry everywhere." }, { "start": 1909.32, "end": 1910.26, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1910.26, "end": 1911.86, "text": " I mean, no, this is not a review," }, { "start": 1911.86, "end": 1913.54, "text": " but if I had to do an initial review right now," }, { "start": 1913.54, "end": 1915.26, "text": " I'd say this camera is not very good." }, { "start": 1915.26, "end": 1916.1, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1916.98, "end": 1919.14, "text": " It doesn't, it's really disappointing too." }, { "start": 1920.06, "end": 1921.46, "text": " I don't know how to pose anymore." }, { "start": 1921.46, "end": 1923.26, "text": " Well, it doesn't matter because no matter how you pose," }, { "start": 1923.26, "end": 1924.1, "text": " it'll be blurry." }, { "start": 1924.1, "end": 1925.42, "text": " It'll be bad." }, { "start": 1925.42, "end": 1926.26, "text": " I mean, it really is, it really is like-" }, { "start": 1926.26, "end": 1927.98, "text": " And then Eli is gonna delete it." }, { "start": 1927.98, "end": 1929.94, "text": " It's actually rather incredible." }, { "start": 1929.94, "end": 1931.36, "text": " I'm sorry to be eviscerating it here" }, { "start": 1931.36, "end": 1932.44, "text": " for all the people who were excited" }, { "start": 1932.44, "end": 1933.28, "text": " about getting one of these," }, { "start": 1933.28, "end": 1935.64, "text": " but if you thought this was gonna be like" }, { "start": 1935.64, "end": 1937.66, "text": " the Android phone with a good camera, no." }, { "start": 1937.66, "end": 1938.74, "text": " This is such an old story." }, { "start": 1938.74, "end": 1939.58, "text": " This is so like-" }, { "start": 1939.58, "end": 1940.6999999999998, "text": " It's so lame." }, { "start": 1940.6999999999998, "end": 1942.3999999999999, "text": " It's such a lame story too." }, { "start": 1943.34, "end": 1946.02, "text": " Moto X definitely taking better photos in my opinion." }, { "start": 1946.02, "end": 1947.6599999999999, "text": " You have the latest app on the Moto X." }, { "start": 1947.6599999999999, "end": 1949.86, "text": " Yeah, not a great pose from either one of you." }, { "start": 1949.86, "end": 1950.6999999999998, "text": " Oh God." }, { "start": 1950.6999999999998, "end": 1952.1399999999999, "text": " But like a way better photo." }, { "start": 1952.1399999999999, "end": 1952.98, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1952.98, "end": 1954.5, "text": " Well, I guess I'm gonna have to keep the sombrero phone." }, { "start": 1954.5, "end": 1957.9199999999998, "text": " I don't know if it's a sombrero or not," }, { "start": 1957.9199999999998, "end": 1959.82, "text": " but whatever it is, I chased after it." }, { "start": 1959.82, "end": 1960.6999999999998, "text": " Blerry eyed." }, { "start": 1960.6999999999998, "end": 1961.9399999999998, "text": " All right, you wanna talk about something else" }, { "start": 1961.9399999999998, "end": 1962.8799999999999, "text": " cool that Motorola is doing?" }, { "start": 1962.8799999999999, "end": 1965.02, "text": " Yeah, well, do we have anything else to say about Kit Kat?" }, { "start": 1965.02, "end": 1966.5, "text": " Do you wanna take calls in the Nexus 5?" }, { "start": 1966.5, "end": 1967.9199999999998, "text": " Do we wanna take calls in the Nexus 5?" }, { "start": 1967.9199999999998, "end": 1969.1, "text": " Sure, why not?" }, { "start": 1969.1, "end": 1970.8999999999999, "text": " This has already been a complete pile." }, { "start": 1970.8999999999999, "end": 1974.6999999999998, "text": " Let's take some calls on the Nexus 5." }, { "start": 1974.6999999999998, "end": 1975.8999999999999, "text": " Let's see what happens." }, { "start": 1975.8999999999999, "end": 1977.62, "text": " Bring it on internet." }, { "start": 1977.62, "end": 1978.4599999999998, "text": " All right." }, { "start": 1978.4599999999998, "end": 1979.3, "text": " We're taking calls on the Nexus 5." }, { "start": 1979.3, "end": 1980.34, "text": " Please dial our number." }, { "start": 1980.34, "end": 1982.9399999999998, "text": " We're gonna put up our number any moment now, John." }, { "start": 1984.3799999999999, "end": 1985.2199999999998, "text": " There it is." }, { "start": 1985.2199999999998, "end": 1986.06, "text": " All right." }, { "start": 1986.06, "end": 1988.74, "text": " 1888-418-4074." }, { "start": 1988.74, "end": 1990.82, "text": " Dial in, ask us anything you want." }, { "start": 1990.82, "end": 1992.5, "text": " You know, even if it's not about the Nexus 5," }, { "start": 1992.5, "end": 1993.3799999999999, "text": " it could be about us." }, { "start": 1993.3799999999999, "end": 1994.2199999999998, "text": " Just enjoy it." }, { "start": 1994.2199999999998, "end": 1995.04, "text": " It could be about our hopes, our dreams." }, { "start": 1995.04, "end": 1996.54, "text": " So let's talk about Project Ara." }, { "start": 1996.54, "end": 1998.3799999999999, "text": " Which is Motorola's modular phone thing." }, { "start": 1998.38, "end": 1999.22, "text": " Project Ara." }, { "start": 1999.22, "end": 2000.0400000000002, "text": " Ara, Ara?" }, { "start": 2000.0400000000002, "end": 2001.0600000000002, "text": " I don't know, I think it's Ara." }, { "start": 2001.0600000000002, "end": 2002.7800000000002, "text": " So Motorola this week," }, { "start": 2002.7800000000002, "end": 2004.38, "text": " I think this is kind of the most interesting news" }, { "start": 2004.38, "end": 2005.22, "text": " of the week." }, { "start": 2005.22, "end": 2007.3000000000002, "text": " They announced a project to build modular phones." }, { "start": 2007.3000000000002, "end": 2008.5800000000002, "text": " They teamed up with this 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2122.6, "end": 2123.54, "text": " Racism." }, { "start": 2123.54, "end": 2125.08, "text": " It's backpack racism." }, { "start": 2126.34, "end": 2127.66, "text": " I don't think it's made for the entire world." }, { "start": 2127.66, "end": 2128.5, "text": " I think they're kidding themselves." }, { "start": 2128.5, "end": 2133.5, "text": " I just feel like a phone is a modular," }, { "start": 2133.5, "end": 2136.98, "text": " it's like a little kind of tiny slab of hardware" }, { "start": 2136.98, "end": 2139.34, "text": " that you slot into your ecosystem." }, { "start": 2139.34, "end": 2142.46, "text": " I feel like the way it's manufactured," }, { "start": 2144.1400000000003, "end": 2147.7400000000002, "text": " it's so embedded to make it small and to make it good." }, { "start": 2147.7400000000002, "end": 2149.5, "text": " Yeah, I think the big issue with this idea" }, { "start": 2149.5, "end": 2151.46, "text": " is that I think the consumer angle" }, { "start": 2151.46, "end": 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"start": 2213.84, "end": 2215.12, "text": " And I barely drive it." }, { "start": 2215.12, "end": 2216.98, "text": " And all the time I'm like," }, { "start": 2216.98, "end": 2219.38, "text": " ooh, maybe I should get a new car." }, { "start": 2219.38, "end": 2220.6, "text": " It doesn't make any sense." }, { "start": 2220.6, "end": 2221.44, "text": " I don't need one." }, { "start": 2221.44, "end": 2223.3, "text": " But that's what this project is like." }, { "start": 2223.3, "end": 2224.3, "text": " No, right." }, { "start": 2224.3, "end": 2225.14, "text": " But it would be cool." }, { "start": 2225.14, "end": 2226.9, "text": " But to his point, if I had a phone" }, { "start": 2226.9, "end": 2228.5, "text": " and I was like, yeah, this camera sucks." }, { "start": 2228.5, "end": 2229.6600000000003, "text": " And they're like, well, for $100 more," }, { "start": 2229.6600000000003, "end": 2231.38, "text": " you can get a much better camera." }, { "start": 2231.38, "end": 2232.94, 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is that they're having to do different tricks" }, { "start": 2257.98, "end": 2260.5, "text": " to make them better than we've traditionally" }, { "start": 2260.5, "end": 2263.78, "text": " done with regular DSLR, point and shoot stuff." }, { "start": 2263.78, "end": 2265.94, "text": " And the tricks, they're getting better and better" }, { "start": 2265.94, "end": 2269.26, "text": " at approximating the big cameras, the little sensors." }, { "start": 2269.26, "end": 2272.34, "text": " And they're going off in wild new directions." }, { "start": 2272.34, "end": 2274.86, "text": " And I think people are looking at these pictures." }, { "start": 2274.86, "end": 2276.42, "text": " And they're getting used to them in a way" }, { "start": 2276.42, "end": 2279.0200000000004, "text": " that we weren't ready for." }, { "start": 2279.0200000000004, "end": 2280.5400000000004, "text": " And so the tricks are going to start" }, { "start": 2280.5400000000004, "end": 2284.0600000000004, "text": " to reinforce what people expect photos to look like." }, { "start": 2284.06, "end": 2286.7799999999997, "text": " And they're going to get better in a different way" }, { "start": 2286.7799999999997, "end": 2288.38, "text": " than you would expect a DSLR picture." }, { "start": 2288.38, "end": 2290.42, "text": " How much of that is going to be software, though?" }, { "start": 2290.42, "end": 2292.2999999999997, "text": " I think it's a combination." }, { "start": 2292.2999999999997, "end": 2294.86, "text": " And I think that's software-hardware combination." }, { "start": 2294.86, "end": 2296.94, "text": " These camera sensors, I guarantee you" }, { "start": 2296.94, "end": 2298.94, "text": " that's the same sensor as the G2." }, { "start": 2298.94, "end": 2301.74, "text": " It's just Google's crappier at writing software for it." }, { "start": 2301.74, "end": 2303.5, "text": " Which you think they would, at this point," }, { "start": 2303.5, "end": 2307.98, "text": " they would just get some killer camera people to create." }, { "start": 2307.98, "end": 2309.1, "text": " I mean, I can't imagine." }, { "start": 2309.1, "end": 2309.6, "text": " But why?" }, { "start": 2309.6, "end": 2310.2599999999998, "text": " I can't imagine." }, { "start": 2310.2599999999998, "end": 2312.94, "text": " I don't know, but I can't imagine Mathias Uarte or anybody" }, { "start": 2312.94, "end": 2315.46, "text": " at Google going home and taking photos of this thing" }, { "start": 2315.46, "end": 2317.98, "text": " and feeling satisfied that it's a product they released." }, { "start": 2317.98, "end": 2319.46, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 2319.46, "end": 2321.86, "text": " Oh, we got a caller about cameras." }, { "start": 2321.86, "end": 2323.7400000000002, "text": " What's his name?" }, { "start": 2323.7400000000002, "end": 2324.26, "text": " Raj." }, { "start": 2324.26, "end": 2327.26, "text": " Raj is on the line, wants to talk about cameras." }, { "start": 2327.26, "end": 2329.82, "text": " Raj, what's happening?" }, { "start": 2329.82, "end": 2331.66, "text": " Yeah, so I have a new." }, { "start": 2331.66, "end": 2333.54, "text": " Hello, first of all, nice to speak to you guys." }, { "start": 2333.54, "end": 2334.42, "text": " Hi, how are you?" }, { "start": 2334.42, "end": 2334.9, "text": " Welcome." }, { "start": 2334.9, "end": 2337.54, "text": " Welcome to the best Vergecast episode ever." }, { "start": 2337.54, "end": 2339.7000000000003, "text": " That's right." }, { "start": 2339.7000000000003, "end": 2341.98, "text": " So I'm actually seriously considering" }, { "start": 2341.98, "end": 2343.98, "text": " buying a Nexus 5." }, { "start": 2343.98, "end": 2344.7400000000002, "text": " Sure, we all are." }, { "start": 2344.7400000000002, "end": 2346.9, "text": " And one of the things that would hold me back" }, { "start": 2346.9, "end": 2349.06, "text": " is a good camera." }, { "start": 2349.06, "end": 2352.26, "text": " I have a HTC One X. And it's a pretty neat camera." }, { "start": 2352.26, "end": 2354.5, "text": " So jumping from that to something" }, { "start": 2354.5, "end": 2356.46, "text": " that's going to be blurry all the time" }, { "start": 2356.46, "end": 2357.98, "text": " is kind of a scary prospect." }, { "start": 2357.98, "end": 2358.46, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2358.46, "end": 2361.22, "text": " But what's surprising to me is that Google" }, { "start": 2361.22, "end": 2364.7400000000002, "text": " seems to be really having good people who seem" }, { "start": 2364.7400000000002, "end": 2367.06, "text": " to work with cameras in Google." }, { "start": 2367.06, "end": 2370.7, "text": " I upload all my raw images from my Sony" }, { "start": 2370.7, "end": 2374.02, "text": " NEX 6 to Google+." }, { "start": 2374.02, "end": 2375.2599999999998, "text": " The murder is awesome." }, { "start": 2375.2599999999998, "end": 2376.1, "text": " You're breaking up." }, { "start": 2376.1, "end": 2376.62, "text": " Oh, god." }, { "start": 2376.62, "end": 2378.7799999999997, "text": " Are you guys going to show up in the studio too?" }, { "start": 2378.7799999999997, "end": 2379.7, "text": " Sorry, go ahead." }, { "start": 2379.7, "end": 2381.9399999999996, "text": " Go ahead, Raj." }, { "start": 2381.9399999999996, "end": 2383.54, "text": " Yeah, I have a hard time believing" }, { "start": 2383.54, "end": 2386.98, "text": " that with Google+, having such great camera features," }, { "start": 2386.98, "end": 2390.22, "text": " that they can't write good software for the Nexus." }, { "start": 2390.22, "end": 2391.4199999999996, "text": " I think that's a great point." }, { "start": 2391.4199999999996, "end": 2395.7, "text": " I mean, Google has pushed so hard on," }, { "start": 2395.7, "end": 2397.46, "text": " look at our photo gallery features." }, { "start": 2397.46, "end": 2398.8199999999997, "text": " You can auto upload." }, { "start": 2398.8199999999997, "end": 2400.02, "text": " They're not a hardware company." }, { "start": 2400.02, "end": 2400.74, "text": " Google+." }, { "start": 2400.74, "end": 2403.74, "text": " No, but they're saying this is your repository for photos." }, { "start": 2403.74, "end": 2404.78, "text": " Put all your stuff here." }, { "start": 2404.78, "end": 2405.94, "text": " We have all these tools now." }, { "start": 2405.94, "end": 2407.38, "text": " You can edit, blah, blah, blah." }, { "start": 2407.38, "end": 2409.46, "text": " It's like, why wouldn't you say, we" }, { "start": 2409.46, "end": 2412.1, "text": " built this awesome library, this gallery for your photos," }, { "start": 2412.1, "end": 2413.22, "text": " and a way to share them." }, { "start": 2413.22, "end": 2417.06, "text": " We're going to give you the best camera possible to capture." }, { "start": 2417.06, "end": 2419.74, "text": " I think they've got some sort of budget." }, { "start": 2419.74, "end": 2422.62, "text": " And they just have to decide at some point it's good enough." }, { "start": 2422.62, "end": 2425.02, "text": " I feel like Apple, I mean, I would" }, { "start": 2425.02, "end": 2428.78, "text": " love to see the percentage of the cost of the iPhone 5S that" }, { "start": 2428.78, "end": 2429.78, "text": " is that camera." }, { "start": 2429.78, "end": 2431.1800000000003, "text": " I think that's iFixit has that." }, { "start": 2431.1800000000003, "end": 2435.1800000000003, "text": " Like, they are insane." }, { "start": 2435.1800000000003, "end": 2438.5400000000004, "text": " Apple clearly sees that as the most important feature" }, { "start": 2438.5400000000004, "end": 2439.6200000000003, "text": " of a phone, which it is." }, { "start": 2439.6200000000003, "end": 2440.1000000000004, "text": " Well, it is." }, { "start": 2440.1000000000004, "end": 2445.9, "text": " I mean, it's definitely, I've talked a lot about at home." }, { "start": 2445.9, "end": 2448.86, "text": " Laura and I have discussed this a lot about really having" }, { "start": 2448.86, "end": 2450.5800000000004, "text": " a camera with you all the time that" }, { "start": 2450.5800000000004, "end": 2452.9, "text": " is going to be of good enough quality" }, { "start": 2452.9, "end": 2454.2200000000003, "text": " that you're not going to be like," }, { "start": 2454.2200000000003, "end": 2457.46, "text": " god, I wish I took that with a real camera." }, { "start": 2457.46, "end": 2458.6600000000003, "text": " You feel that way with an iPhone." }, { "start": 2458.66, "end": 2461.06, "text": " I think what it shows is that the iPhone is not" }, { "start": 2461.06, "end": 2463.2599999999998, "text": " built with off-the-shelf parts." }, { "start": 2463.2599999999998, "end": 2466.18, "text": " Apple is super custom about everything they have." }, { "start": 2466.18, "end": 2468.74, "text": " And Google is not a hardware company." }, { "start": 2468.74, "end": 2470.58, "text": " And they are sourcing that camera" }, { "start": 2470.58, "end": 2475.06, "text": " from somebody who makes probably the best camera of that size." }, { "start": 2475.06, "end": 2476.8999999999996, "text": " What's weird about that is that Sony can't make" }, { "start": 2476.8999999999996, "end": 2479.2999999999997, "text": " a good camera on their phones." }, { "start": 2479.2999999999997, "end": 2481.02, "text": " It's fine." }, { "start": 2481.02, "end": 2481.58, "text": " Is it fine?" }, { "start": 2481.58, "end": 2482.7, "text": " It's not as good as that." }, { "start": 2482.7, "end": 2485.22, "text": " Is it as good as the iPhone 5S?" }, { "start": 2485.22, "end": 2485.8199999999997, "text": " No." }, { "start": 2485.8199999999997, "end": 2486.7799999999997, "text": " So it's not fine." }, { "start": 2486.7799999999997, "end": 2487.66, "text": " So it isn't fine." }, { "start": 2487.66, "end": 2490.06, "text": " It's Apple and Nokia that are good at this." }, { "start": 2490.06, "end": 2490.58, "text": " That's it." }, { "start": 2490.58, "end": 2491.06, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2491.06, "end": 2491.98, "text": " There you go." }, { "start": 2491.98, "end": 2493.66, "text": " But Nokia had to really compete how" }, { "start": 2493.66, "end": 2495.14, "text": " to make a phone with essentially a point" }, { "start": 2495.14, "end": 2496.2999999999997, "text": " and shoot in the back of it." }, { "start": 2496.2999999999997, "end": 2497.14, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2497.14, "end": 2498.8199999999997, "text": " Well, a 41 megapixel point." }, { "start": 2498.8199999999997, "end": 2500.8599999999997, "text": " 41 megapixel, but still." }, { "start": 2500.8599999999997, "end": 2503.62, "text": " And that's, I think, really the 1020" }, { "start": 2503.62, "end": 2507.46, "text": " is a good example of what I'm saying with like." }, { "start": 2507.46, "end": 2508.06, "text": " The tricks." }, { "start": 2508.06, "end": 2509.14, "text": " It's tricks." }, { "start": 2509.14, "end": 2511.46, "text": " They built a gigantic image sensor" }, { "start": 2511.46, "end": 2514.02, "text": " so they could do digital zoom, which" }, { "start": 2514.02, "end": 2517.2999999999997, "text": " has been soundly rejected by every point and shoot maker" }, { "start": 2517.3, "end": 2519.5800000000004, "text": " in every traditional camera sort of world." }, { "start": 2519.5800000000004, "end": 2521.42, "text": " And you put it on a phone, and everyone's like," }, { "start": 2521.42, "end": 2522.46, "text": " a digital zoom." }, { "start": 2522.46, "end": 2523.26, "text": " Zoom reinvented." }, { "start": 2523.26, "end": 2526.5800000000004, "text": " You know, it definitely is a software issue for these guys." }, { "start": 2526.5800000000004, "end": 2529.0600000000004, "text": " I mean, I don't think this camera is, I mean," }, { "start": 2529.0600000000004, "end": 2530.6600000000003, "text": " based on just taking a few shots here," }, { "start": 2530.6600000000003, "end": 2532.86, "text": " like I think the camera's capable of taking good photos." }, { "start": 2532.86, "end": 2534.42, "text": " We're under studio lights." }, { "start": 2534.42, "end": 2537.1000000000004, "text": " Like, there is absolutely enough light for almost any camera." }, { "start": 2537.1000000000004, "end": 2540.86, "text": " Well, studio light can be harsh and unforgiving." }, { "start": 2540.86, "end": 2544.6600000000003, "text": " Yeah, but also can allow for faster shutter speeds." }, { "start": 2544.6600000000003, "end": 2545.42, "text": " Sure." }, { "start": 2545.42, "end": 2546.38, "text": " Except on the Nexus 5." }, { "start": 2546.38, "end": 2547.6600000000003, "text": " So actually, speaking of phones." }, { "start": 2547.6600000000003, "end": 2548.34, "text": " Raj, thank you." }, { "start": 2548.34, "end": 2549.34, "text": " Thank you for the call." }, { "start": 2549.34, "end": 2551.7000000000003, "text": " I appreciate the, it's actually a really good point." }, { "start": 2551.7000000000003, "end": 2553.62, "text": " I mean, I think Google, and certainly if they" }, { "start": 2553.62, "end": 2555.78, "text": " want to reinforce it, they're capable of being" }, { "start": 2555.78, "end": 2557.38, "text": " this resource for." }, { "start": 2557.38, "end": 2561.54, "text": " I mean, their first ad for the Nexus 5 is about the camera." }, { "start": 2561.54, "end": 2564.46, "text": " So I don't understand how they put an effort into it." }, { "start": 2564.46, "end": 2566.06, "text": " No, it should have been incredible." }, { "start": 2566.06, "end": 2568.9, "text": " They should have blown everybody away with the camera." }, { "start": 2568.9, "end": 2570.1, "text": " I totally agree." }, { "start": 2570.1, "end": 2574.1, "text": " Raj, thank you so much for calling in." }, { "start": 2574.1, "end": 2576.62, "text": " And it's funny that the ad for the Nexus 5 is the camera." }, { "start": 2576.62, "end": 2578.06, "text": " Because the ad for the iPhone is the camera." }, { "start": 2578.06, "end": 2579.8199999999997, "text": " And the ad for every phone in the world" }, { "start": 2579.8199999999997, "end": 2581.66, "text": " is the camera, because it's a camera in your pocket" }, { "start": 2581.66, "end": 2582.54, "text": " that's connected to the internet." }, { "start": 2582.54, "end": 2582.8199999999997, "text": " You know what?" }, { "start": 2582.8199999999997, "end": 2584.2999999999997, "text": " Just saying it is not enough." }, { "start": 2584.2999999999997, "end": 2585.7799999999997, "text": " Like, you have to be able to deliver." }, { "start": 2585.7799999999997, "end": 2588.38, "text": " And I think this is a killer price point for an LTE phone." }, { "start": 2588.38, "end": 2591.2999999999997, "text": " $349 off contract is really impressive." }, { "start": 2591.2999999999997, "end": 2592.7, "text": " It's funny that you keep saying it's" }, { "start": 2592.7, "end": 2594.62, "text": " a killer price for an LTE phone." }, { "start": 2594.62, "end": 2596.38, "text": " It's like, oh, it's a high end." }, { "start": 2596.38, "end": 2597.42, "text": " It's a high end." }, { "start": 2597.42, "end": 2598.38, "text": " The specs, as far as." }, { "start": 2598.38, "end": 2599.74, "text": " But what phone isn't LTE?" }, { "start": 2599.74, "end": 2601.58, "text": " You can get an HT1 for $99." }, { "start": 2601.58, "end": 2604.38, "text": " You can get an iPhone 5C for $500." }, { "start": 2604.38, "end": 2606.38, "text": " Those are high end LTE phones." }, { "start": 2606.38, "end": 2608.54, "text": " Yeah, but the iPhone 5 camera, they" }, { "start": 2608.54, "end": 2609.8199999999997, "text": " don't have the 5S on here." }, { "start": 2609.8199999999997, "end": 2610.8199999999997, "text": " But to buy a replacement." }, { "start": 2610.8199999999997, "end": 2614.5, "text": " I'm just saying, you weren't so scarred, like emotionally" }, { "start": 2614.5, "end": 2616.58, "text": " scarred for the Nexus 4." }, { "start": 2616.58, "end": 2619.46, "text": " But you think LTE is worth like hundreds of dollars." }, { "start": 2619.46, "end": 2621.62, "text": " But I think it's table stakes on this phone." }, { "start": 2621.62, "end": 2623.7799999999997, "text": " What are the brand new flagship device" }, { "start": 2623.7799999999997, "end": 2627.74, "text": " with extremely modern hardware?" }, { "start": 2627.74, "end": 2628.9, "text": " And matte black." }, { "start": 2628.9, "end": 2630.5, "text": " No, but can you buy?" }, { "start": 2630.5, "end": 2631.54, "text": " No, it's a great price." }, { "start": 2631.54, "end": 2632.06, "text": " I mean, even the." }, { "start": 2632.06, "end": 2633.58, "text": " I think it's funny you keep saying LTE." }, { "start": 2633.58, "end": 2638.74, "text": " No, but as a comparison, look at the 1 or the S4." }, { "start": 2638.74, "end": 2640.3, "text": " What is their base?" }, { "start": 2640.3, "end": 2640.94, "text": " Their $500." }, { "start": 2640.94, "end": 2642.62, "text": " They're like $600." }, { "start": 2642.62, "end": 2644.06, "text": " So it's a pretty big jump." }, { "start": 2644.06, "end": 2644.98, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 2644.98, "end": 2646.46, "text": " You know, I think that's notable." }, { "start": 2646.46, "end": 2647.46, "text": " And it has LTE." }, { "start": 2647.46, "end": 2648.46, "text": " The 5C is $550." }, { "start": 2648.46, "end": 2650.62, "text": " The 5C is $550 on unlocked." }, { "start": 2650.62, "end": 2651.22, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2651.22, "end": 2652.54, "text": " And it's last year's phone." }, { "start": 2652.54, "end": 2653.82, "text": " So it's not, you know." }, { "start": 2653.82, "end": 2655.06, "text": " It's unapologetically plastic." }, { "start": 2655.06, "end": 2656.66, "text": " Unapologetically plastic." }, { "start": 2656.66, "end": 2657.5, "text": " We have a caller." }, { "start": 2657.5, "end": 2658.86, "text": " Who is the caller?" }, { "start": 2658.86, "end": 2659.94, "text": " Who?" }, { "start": 2659.94, "end": 2660.46, "text": " Mark." }, { "start": 2660.46, "end": 2660.74, "text": " Mark." }, { "start": 2660.74, "end": 2662.66, "text": " Mark, you're on the air." }, { "start": 2662.66, "end": 2663.62, "text": " Tell us what you're feeling." }, { "start": 2663.62, "end": 2665.1, "text": " Tell us what you're thinking." }, { "start": 2665.1, "end": 2665.5, "text": " Hello." }, { "start": 2665.5, "end": 2667.18, "text": " Hello." }, { "start": 2667.18, "end": 2668.8199999999997, "text": " I just recently saw the." }, { "start": 2668.8199999999997, "end": 2670.22, "text": " Mark, are you British?" }, { "start": 2670.22, "end": 2671.3799999999997, "text": " Are you British?" }, { "start": 2671.3799999999997, "end": 2671.8599999999997, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 2671.8599999999997, "end": 2674.2999999999997, "text": " Is this a fake British accent?" }, { "start": 2674.2999999999997, "end": 2675.22, "text": " This is real or fake?" }, { "start": 2675.22, "end": 2676.06, "text": " No, it's not fake." }, { "start": 2676.06, "end": 2676.54, "text": " It's real." }, { "start": 2676.54, "end": 2676.9399999999996, "text": " I'm real." }, { "start": 2676.9399999999996, "end": 2677.9399999999996, "text": " I'm not made of plastic." }, { "start": 2677.9399999999996, "end": 2679.2999999999997, "text": " OK, good." }, { "start": 2679.2999999999997, "end": 2681.62, "text": " My question is." }, { "start": 2681.62, "end": 2682.1, "text": " Is it?" }, { "start": 2682.1, "end": 2682.8999999999996, "text": " Yeah, go ahead." }, { "start": 2682.8999999999996, "end": 2683.66, "text": " Anyway, my question is." }, { "start": 2683.66, "end": 2684.3399999999997, "text": " Not your accent." }, { "start": 2684.3399999999997, "end": 2685.8599999999997, "text": " Hey, hey, hold on." }, { "start": 2685.8599999999997, "end": 2687.02, "text": " Go ahead." }, { "start": 2687.02, "end": 2690.4599999999996, "text": " Can I ask about the Nexus 5 already?" }, { "start": 2690.46, "end": 2692.1, "text": " OK." }, { "start": 2692.1, "end": 2692.82, "text": " I saw the video." }, { "start": 2692.82, "end": 2693.7400000000002, "text": " They had the hands-on video." }, { "start": 2693.7400000000002, "end": 2694.98, "text": " But I think it was D-the-bone." }, { "start": 2694.98, "end": 2698.58, "text": " And you said that the performance wasn't very good" }, { "start": 2698.58, "end": 2702.2200000000003, "text": " on KitKat or the Nexus 5." }, { "start": 2702.2200000000003, "end": 2703.26, "text": " Is that true?" }, { "start": 2703.26, "end": 2705.02, "text": " I mean, the performance I've seen" }, { "start": 2705.02, "end": 2709.2200000000003, "text": " seems at least concurrent with something like the Moto X," }, { "start": 2709.2200000000003, "end": 2709.98, "text": " which I've had." }, { "start": 2709.98, "end": 2710.5, "text": " I've no." }, { "start": 2710.5, "end": 2712.18, "text": " The Moto X is a mid-range phone." }, { "start": 2712.18, "end": 2713.66, "text": " But I have no complaints." }, { "start": 2713.66, "end": 2715.38, "text": " That's the thing about it." }, { "start": 2715.38, "end": 2718.66, "text": " I've been using the Moto X as my daily driver." }, { "start": 2718.66, "end": 2721.8999999999996, "text": " And I'm not like, god, this is so slow or jeez, this scrolling." }, { "start": 2721.8999999999996, "end": 2723.8199999999997, "text": " I don't have any of those feelings whatsoever." }, { "start": 2723.8199999999997, "end": 2725.7, "text": " I feel it's a very fast phone." }, { "start": 2725.7, "end": 2727.24, "text": " Here's the number one thing you can do" }, { "start": 2727.24, "end": 2728.42, "text": " if you're an Android user." }, { "start": 2728.42, "end": 2731.02, "text": " If you want to make your phone actually feel faster," }, { "start": 2731.02, "end": 2732.22, "text": " open up developer options." }, { "start": 2732.22, "end": 2733.94, "text": " Turn all of your animations off." }, { "start": 2733.94, "end": 2736.54, "text": " Suddenly, your phone will feel blazingly fast." }, { "start": 2736.54, "end": 2739.62, "text": " At a glance, using this phone, I do not feel that it's slow." }, { "start": 2739.62, "end": 2740.3799999999997, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 2740.3799999999997, "end": 2742.62, "text": " Dieter spent some time with it doing a hands-on today." }, { "start": 2745.3799999999997, "end": 2747.3399999999997, "text": " He may have a totally different take on it." }, { "start": 2747.34, "end": 2749.46, "text": " He said that there's like an Android lag that" }, { "start": 2749.46, "end": 2751.9, "text": " exists in the world." }, { "start": 2751.9, "end": 2753.3, "text": " You mean this doesn't solve it?" }, { "start": 2753.3, "end": 2754.26, "text": " It does not solve it." }, { "start": 2754.26, "end": 2756.1400000000003, "text": " Kikant doesn't solve it." }, { "start": 2756.1400000000003, "end": 2757.42, "text": " I've used the Galaxy S4." }, { "start": 2757.42, "end": 2760.38, "text": " It's as smooth as an iPhone, as far as I'm concerned." }, { "start": 2760.38, "end": 2765.58, "text": " I think that side by side, what you'd find" }, { "start": 2765.58, "end": 2768.06, "text": " is that it is not as smooth as an iPhone." }, { "start": 2768.06, "end": 2770.26, "text": " One of the things that is Apple's," }, { "start": 2770.26, "end": 2772.94, "text": " and this is the truth, and this goes beyond the whole" }, { "start": 2772.94, "end": 2775.3, "text": " how many milliseconds it responds to touch." }, { "start": 2775.3, "end": 2779.6600000000003, "text": " One of Apple's secret weapons is the brain" }, { "start": 2779.6600000000003, "end": 2783.1400000000003, "text": " that controls the screen and touch sensitivity on it." }, { "start": 2783.1400000000003, "end": 2786.82, "text": " They really have a whole separate architecture" }, { "start": 2786.82, "end": 2789.42, "text": " for how your finger interacts with the screen." }, { "start": 2789.42, "end": 2792.7000000000003, "text": " And it is like a patented secret sauce thing that they do." }, { "start": 2792.7000000000003, "end": 2794.6200000000003, "text": " My sister-in-law has an iPhone 4," }, { "start": 2794.6200000000003, "end": 2797.9, "text": " and it still feels really, really fast." }, { "start": 2797.9, "end": 2801.3, "text": " If you're going to compare touch sensitivity and speed" }, { "start": 2801.3, "end": 2805.46, "text": " side by side to an iPhone, or perception of speed rather," }, { "start": 2805.46, "end": 2807.78, "text": " there's going to be a difference in any Android phone," }, { "start": 2807.78, "end": 2808.42, "text": " in my opinion." }, { "start": 2808.42, "end": 2811.3, "text": " I mean, the GS4 may feel, and having" }, { "start": 2811.3, "end": 2813.26, "text": " used the GS4 side by side to an iPhone," }, { "start": 2813.26, "end": 2816.54, "text": " I don't think it is as smooth or as sensitive as an iPhone." }, { "start": 2816.54, "end": 2819.78, "text": " But that said, these phones have different flows." }, { "start": 2819.78, "end": 2822.38, "text": " I mean, when I use Windows, I'm like, god, the feeling" }, { "start": 2822.38, "end": 2824.82, "text": " of Windows is so different than OS X." }, { "start": 2824.82, "end": 2826.1000000000004, "text": " And it's not comfortable to me." }, { "start": 2826.1000000000004, "end": 2829.2200000000003, "text": " I feel like I'm at a completely different speed." }, { "start": 2829.22, "end": 2831.54, "text": " But there are people who use Windows and think" }, { "start": 2831.54, "end": 2833.74, "text": " it's incredible and efficient." }, { "start": 2833.74, "end": 2836.22, "text": " Yeah, I feel like those people find me all the time." }, { "start": 2836.22, "end": 2837.14, "text": " They know where I live." }, { "start": 2837.14, "end": 2838.14, "text": " Yeah, they know where I live." }, { "start": 2838.14, "end": 2839.2599999999998, "text": " That's right." }, { "start": 2839.2599999999998, "end": 2845.7799999999997, "text": " When I started working for Engadget, pretty shortly in," }, { "start": 2845.7799999999997, "end": 2847.7799999999997, "text": " I got a PC." }, { "start": 2847.7799999999997, "end": 2849.9599999999996, "text": " And so I did a lot of work on a PC." }, { "start": 2849.9599999999996, "end": 2852.4599999999996, "text": " And I eventually went back to the Mac." }, { "start": 2852.4599999999996, "end": 2856.06, "text": " But I still feel like a power user on the PC." }, { "start": 2856.06, "end": 2858.98, "text": " You just get in a zone or something like that." }, { "start": 2858.98, "end": 2862.34, "text": " And I think I've been playing with Android a little bit." }, { "start": 2862.34, "end": 2863.98, "text": " And I was starting to get there." }, { "start": 2863.98, "end": 2864.66, "text": " It's cool." }, { "start": 2864.66, "end": 2865.5, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 2865.5, "end": 2867.58, "text": " I mean, look, I love my HTC One." }, { "start": 2867.58, "end": 2869.98, "text": " I think it's a fine phone." }, { "start": 2869.98, "end": 2871.3, "text": " It's a great piece of hardware." }, { "start": 2871.3, "end": 2874.7400000000002, "text": " It runs 4.3 great." }, { "start": 2874.7400000000002, "end": 2875.46, "text": " 4.3 is great." }, { "start": 2875.46, "end": 2877.26, "text": " I just don't think the specs matter anymore," }, { "start": 2877.26, "end": 2878.5, "text": " except for the camera." }, { "start": 2878.5, "end": 2879.9, "text": " Yeah, I think, I mean, I'll be honest with you." }, { "start": 2879.9, "end": 2883.78, "text": " I'm just flipping around here going through web pages." }, { "start": 2883.78, "end": 2886.5, "text": " And this doesn't feel like a slow phone to me." }, { "start": 2886.5, "end": 2888.46, "text": " And it doesn't feel like it's, you know," }, { "start": 2888.46, "end": 2889.94, "text": " scrolling to me feels like pretty slow." }, { "start": 2889.94, "end": 2890.94, "text": " That screen looks really washed out to me." }, { "start": 2890.94, "end": 2891.94, "text": " This does have a motion." }, { "start": 2891.94, "end": 2893.66, "text": " The screen is a little washed out, but let's decide." }, { "start": 2893.66, "end": 2895.58, "text": " That has a motion processor, like a separate motion" }, { "start": 2895.58, "end": 2896.34, "text": " processor or something?" }, { "start": 2896.34, "end": 2898.38, "text": " No, the Moto X has a separate motion processor." }, { "start": 2898.38, "end": 2900.26, "text": " So it's just KitKat that's doing that?" }, { "start": 2900.26, "end": 2901.06, "text": " What?" }, { "start": 2901.06, "end": 2903.82, "text": " KitKat does something with like, it does your accelerometer" }, { "start": 2903.82, "end": 2905.82, "text": " stuff, like step counting and stuff like that." }, { "start": 2905.82, "end": 2906.98, "text": " So the app's doing that." }, { "start": 2906.98, "end": 2908.1, "text": " They all do that." }, { "start": 2908.1, "end": 2909.7400000000002, "text": " I mean, to some degree, depending on." }, { "start": 2909.7400000000002, "end": 2910.66, "text": " OK, but it's not like." }, { "start": 2910.66, "end": 2914.5, "text": " But sorry, to get to the, Mark, to get to your question," }, { "start": 2914.5, "end": 2916.14, "text": " I'm using it right now." }, { "start": 2916.14, "end": 2917.5, "text": " It does not feel slow to me." }, { "start": 2917.5, "end": 2921.02, "text": " By comparison of other Android devices, it does not feel slow." }, { "start": 2921.02, "end": 2922.94, "text": " It feels like a pretty speedy Android phone." }, { "start": 2922.94, "end": 2924.26, "text": " And it's stock." }, { "start": 2924.26, "end": 2924.62, "text": " What?" }, { "start": 2924.62, "end": 2925.14, "text": " It's stock." }, { "start": 2925.14, "end": 2925.7, "text": " It's stock." }, { "start": 2925.7, "end": 2926.58, "text": " I mean, it doesn't." }, { "start": 2926.58, "end": 2929.02, "text": " You know, there's another thing that's, yeah," }, { "start": 2929.02, "end": 2931.06, "text": " this is a good example." }, { "start": 2931.06, "end": 2934.26, "text": " But it's, you know, the funny thing is like, you know," }, { "start": 2934.26, "end": 2936.22, "text": " I find that Android phones have to settle in." }, { "start": 2936.22, "end": 2937.9, "text": " You spend a couple of days with them." }, { "start": 2937.9, "end": 2938.38, "text": " And they do." }, { "start": 2938.38, "end": 2938.62, "text": " And they do." }, { "start": 2938.62, "end": 2939.34, "text": " And they do have to be babied." }, { "start": 2939.34, "end": 2939.82, "text": " They do." }, { "start": 2939.82, "end": 2941.42, "text": " They do have to be babied a little bit." }, { "start": 2941.42, "end": 2944.18, "text": " But by comparison of my Moto X, this doesn't feel slower." }, { "start": 2944.18, "end": 2945.06, "text": " Let's put it that way." }, { "start": 2945.06, "end": 2946.82, "text": " And in some ways, in some ways, my phone." }, { "start": 2946.82, "end": 2948.86, "text": " I'm selling my One and buying this phone and not knowing why." }, { "start": 2948.86, "end": 2950.5800000000004, "text": " So I don't know why you have the One." }, { "start": 2950.5800000000004, "end": 2952.7000000000003, "text": " I mean, just stick with your iPhone." }, { "start": 2952.7000000000003, "end": 2954.5800000000004, "text": " Just admit that you're an iPhone user." }, { "start": 2954.5800000000004, "end": 2955.34, "text": " Just stop pretending." }, { "start": 2955.34, "end": 2956.1000000000004, "text": " This one's new." }, { "start": 2956.1000000000004, "end": 2957.1800000000003, "text": " I go back and forth." }, { "start": 2957.1800000000003, "end": 2957.98, "text": " It's whatever's new." }, { "start": 2957.98, "end": 2960.1800000000003, "text": " I just wanted to point out that the iPhone 5 camera," }, { "start": 2960.1800000000003, "end": 2962.6600000000003, "text": " because we were talking about this before, the iPhone 5" }, { "start": 2962.6600000000003, "end": 2964.38, "text": " camera, they don't have the 5S." }, { "start": 2964.38, "end": 2966.7000000000003, "text": " iPhone 5 camera is $40 on iFixit." }, { "start": 2966.7000000000003, "end": 2968.78, "text": " You're telling me they haven't done the 5S yet, a teardown?" }, { "start": 2968.78, "end": 2969.26, "text": " No, they've done it." }, { "start": 2969.26, "end": 2970.1800000000003, "text": " You can't just buy the part." }, { "start": 2970.1800000000003, "end": 2971.34, "text": " They don't have the price." }, { "start": 2971.34, "end": 2973.82, "text": " To buy the part for the iPhone 5, which" }, { "start": 2973.82, "end": 2974.82, "text": " is more than a year old." }, { "start": 2974.82, "end": 2975.7400000000002, "text": " Yeah, but that's like a consumer." }, { "start": 2975.74, "end": 2978.66, "text": " But a year old used part or whatever." }, { "start": 2978.66, "end": 2981.18, "text": " That is a lot of money for a single part." }, { "start": 2981.18, "end": 2983.3399999999997, "text": " That camera's also still better than this camera." }, { "start": 2983.3399999999997, "end": 2983.8199999999997, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 2983.8199999999997, "end": 2986.74, "text": " The year old iPhone 5 camera is still better than the iPhone 5." }, { "start": 2986.74, "end": 2991.62, "text": " I don't think Google's paying $40 for that camera part." }, { "start": 2991.62, "end": 2993.9399999999996, "text": " But that's a marked up, like, god" }, { "start": 2993.9399999999996, "end": 2996.18, "text": " only knows where those iPhone 5 cameras are coming from." }, { "start": 2996.18, "end": 2998.4199999999996, "text": " That's not what Apple pays for the camera either." }, { "start": 2998.4199999999996, "end": 2999.9399999999996, "text": " I mean, actually, I don't want to know." }, { "start": 2999.9399999999996, "end": 3003.14, "text": " This is actually, this takes some pretty nice looking macro" }, { "start": 3003.14, "end": 3003.64, "text": " shots." }, { "start": 3003.64, "end": 3004.2999999999997, "text": " Oh, god." }, { "start": 3004.3, "end": 3006.86, "text": " No, I mean, this is a kind of a good shot." }, { "start": 3006.86, "end": 3009.42, "text": " Like, you're just trying to, you know, I'll be honest with you." }, { "start": 3009.42, "end": 3010.98, "text": " Macros is." }, { "start": 3010.98, "end": 3011.98, "text": " It's a terrible picture." }, { "start": 3011.98, "end": 3012.98, "text": " No, it's not." }, { "start": 3012.98, "end": 3014.9, "text": " Only one part of it's in focus." }, { "start": 3014.9, "end": 3015.82, "text": " That's what it's macro." }, { "start": 3015.82, "end": 3016.54, "text": " That's what macros." }, { "start": 3016.54, "end": 3017.1800000000003, "text": " That's a macro." }, { "start": 3017.1800000000003, "end": 3018.1400000000003, "text": " You have a color on the phone." }, { "start": 3018.1400000000003, "end": 3019.0600000000004, "text": " Who's the color?" }, { "start": 3019.0600000000004, "end": 3021.1000000000004, "text": " No, we still have the same color on the phone." }, { "start": 3021.1000000000004, "end": 3021.94, "text": " Are you still there?" }, { "start": 3021.94, "end": 3023.78, "text": " Is the camera just, yeah, I'm still here." }, { "start": 3023.78, "end": 3027.0600000000004, "text": " Is the camera app just really superficial still on Android 4.4?" }, { "start": 3027.0600000000004, "end": 3027.86, "text": " It's the same app." }, { "start": 3027.86, "end": 3028.5, "text": " It's the same." }, { "start": 3028.5, "end": 3029.7000000000003, "text": " The app is still the same." }, { "start": 3029.7000000000003, "end": 3030.7400000000002, "text": " I mean, I disagree." }, { "start": 3030.7400000000002, "end": 3032.7400000000002, "text": " I think this is actually a pretty impressive macro photo," }, { "start": 3032.7400000000002, "end": 3034.1800000000003, "text": " I'm going to tell you right now." }, { "start": 3034.18, "end": 3036.3399999999997, "text": " Having tried to take, I bet you if you tried to take the same photo" }, { "start": 3036.3399999999997, "end": 3039.2599999999998, "text": " with your iPhone, you would have difficulty focusing in on that close." }, { "start": 3039.2599999999998, "end": 3039.8599999999997, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3039.8599999999997, "end": 3041.66, "text": " All right, Mark, thank you for calling in." }, { "start": 3041.66, "end": 3044.66, "text": " I mean, we're basically, yeah, look, I can't even focus on that." }, { "start": 3044.66, "end": 3045.54, "text": " It's pathetic." }, { "start": 3045.54, "end": 3046.8199999999997, "text": " Pathetic." }, { "start": 3046.8199999999997, "end": 3049.8199999999997, "text": " Thank you for calling in, Mark." }, { "start": 3049.8199999999997, "end": 3052.06, "text": " And we appreciate your thoughts." }, { "start": 3052.06, "end": 3053.18, "text": " And we're sorry for watching." }, { "start": 3053.18, "end": 3055.7799999999997, "text": " And we're sorry for keeping you on the phone for no reason." }, { "start": 3055.7799999999997, "end": 3057.3399999999997, "text": " That's fine." }, { "start": 3057.3399999999997, "end": 3060.58, "text": " Is there anything else you want to know before you go?" }, { "start": 3060.58, "end": 3062.14, "text": " Well, if somebody questions, I would like to mention" }, { "start": 3062.14, "end": 3063.94, "text": " that you were talking about the prices in Exasaur" }, { "start": 3063.94, "end": 3066.06, "text": " and how it's good value for money in the US." }, { "start": 3066.06, "end": 3070.7000000000003, "text": " But in the UK, it's 340 pounds, which is $545." }, { "start": 3070.7000000000003, "end": 3072.34, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3072.34, "end": 3075.5, "text": " So you're saying it's not a very good deal." }, { "start": 3075.5, "end": 3077.18, "text": " But you live in a country." }, { "start": 3077.18, "end": 3081.46, "text": " How much does the iPhone 5C cost?" }, { "start": 3081.46, "end": 3081.94, "text": " It's more." }, { "start": 3081.94, "end": 3083.14, "text": " It certainly is more." }, { "start": 3083.14, "end": 3083.62, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3083.62, "end": 3087.18, "text": " But if you want to compare it to, say, the US price" }, { "start": 3087.18, "end": 3090.42, "text": " and compare it to the UK price of the Nexus 4, or, sorry, Nexus 5," }, { "start": 3090.42, "end": 3092.1, "text": " it's not great." }, { "start": 3092.1, "end": 3093.7400000000002, "text": " It's OK." }, { "start": 3093.74, "end": 3095.9799999999996, "text": " Yeah, I mean, look, I think Google's game with this phone" }, { "start": 3095.9799999999996, "end": 3098.74, "text": " is to lose money to make it seem like high-end phones should" }, { "start": 3098.74, "end": 3099.66, "text": " be cheaper." }, { "start": 3099.66, "end": 3101.8599999999997, "text": " And I think that's a great game that Google's playing." }, { "start": 3101.8599999999997, "end": 3104.3799999999997, "text": " But it doesn't necessarily make it a great product." }, { "start": 3104.3799999999997, "end": 3108.4199999999996, "text": " And they've got to finish these phones at some point." }, { "start": 3108.4199999999996, "end": 3109.02, "text": " Say what?" }, { "start": 3109.02, "end": 3112.3799999999997, "text": " No, I do realize that they are literally just gateways" }, { "start": 3112.3799999999997, "end": 3113.3399999999997, "text": " into Google services." }, { "start": 3113.3399999999997, "end": 3115.7799999999997, "text": " That's the only reason why they're making these," }, { "start": 3115.7799999999997, "end": 3117.1, "text": " as far as I'm concerned." }, { "start": 3117.1, "end": 3118.2999999999997, "text": " Josh is having a real photo off you." }, { "start": 3118.2999999999997, "end": 3118.9399999999996, "text": " Yeah, I'm sorry." }, { "start": 3118.9399999999996, "end": 3121.18, "text": " I'm just, I have to say, on macro," }, { "start": 3121.18, "end": 3123.02, "text": " it couldn't really focus in on that same angle." }, { "start": 3123.02, "end": 3124.74, "text": " But this is, anyhow, this is really good." }, { "start": 3124.74, "end": 3125.98, "text": " To Mark's point, thank you, Mark." }, { "start": 3125.98, "end": 3126.94, "text": " Yes, Mark, thank you." }, { "start": 3126.94, "end": 3130.1, "text": " As a gateway to Google services, the Nexus 5" }, { "start": 3130.1, "end": 3135.22, "text": " is not Google's equivalent of a Kindle device." }, { "start": 3135.22, "end": 3137.54, "text": " No, because nobody buys them." }, { "start": 3137.54, "end": 3139.14, "text": " And lots of people buy Kindles." }, { "start": 3139.14, "end": 3140.82, "text": " Right, I don't think that this phone is about being" }, { "start": 3140.82, "end": 3142.14, "text": " a gateway into Google services." }, { "start": 3142.14, "end": 3146.46, "text": " I think it's about putting price pressure on Samsung and HTC." }, { "start": 3146.46, "end": 3147.18, "text": " What is it about?" }, { "start": 3147.18, "end": 3148.46, "text": " I don't think it's about that either," }, { "start": 3148.46, "end": 3150.02, "text": " because I don't think it puts any pressure on anybody," }, { "start": 3150.02, "end": 3151.94, "text": " because they go, look, this is a niche device" }, { "start": 3151.94, "end": 3153.18, "text": " that nobody's really buying." }, { "start": 3153.18, "end": 3154.3, "text": " It's like a hobby for them." }, { "start": 3154.3, "end": 3155.38, "text": " It's not even a hobby." }, { "start": 3155.38, "end": 3156.9, "text": " Like, I don't even understand it anymore." }, { "start": 3156.9, "end": 3159.02, "text": " Like, I thought it was about making the most cutting edge" }, { "start": 3159.02, "end": 3161.18, "text": " phone you could make to show off all the features." }, { "start": 3161.18, "end": 3162.06, "text": " Here's what I think it is." }, { "start": 3162.06, "end": 3163.54, "text": " I think this is a dev device." }, { "start": 3163.54, "end": 3164.46, "text": " I think that's what they're doing." }, { "start": 3164.46, "end": 3166.1, "text": " They need a dev device for their latest version" }, { "start": 3166.1, "end": 3166.78, "text": " of their software." }, { "start": 3166.78, "end": 3167.54, "text": " That runs kickass." }, { "start": 3167.54, "end": 3170.1, "text": " Yeah, and they're saying, you know what?" }, { "start": 3170.1, "end": 3171.34, "text": " We'll sell a few of them, too." }, { "start": 3171.34, "end": 3172.94, "text": " Like, we're going to make the dev device anyhow." }, { "start": 3172.94, "end": 3174.7000000000003, "text": " We have thousands of developers who are going to want them." }, { "start": 3174.7000000000003, "end": 3175.2200000000003, "text": " And we're rich." }, { "start": 3175.2200000000003, "end": 3175.9, "text": " Why not sell them?" }, { "start": 3175.9, "end": 3177.1, "text": " If somebody, right, we're Google." }, { "start": 3177.1, "end": 3178.9, "text": " If somebody wants them, LG will just" }, { "start": 3178.9, "end": 3180.38, "text": " change the body shape a little bit." }, { "start": 3180.38, "end": 3182.06, "text": " We'll take off your skin, and we'll sell them." }, { "start": 3182.06, "end": 3183.1800000000003, "text": " I'm into that theory." }, { "start": 3183.1800000000003, "end": 3184.34, "text": " I mean, because I don't really see another." }, { "start": 3184.34, "end": 3184.7400000000002, "text": " And you know what?" }, { "start": 3184.7400000000002, "end": 3186.3, "text": " You know who doesn't take pictures?" }, { "start": 3186.3, "end": 3186.9, "text": " Developers." }, { "start": 3186.9, "end": 3188.46, "text": " But they advertise the hell." }, { "start": 3188.46, "end": 3189.46, "text": " They advertise the hell." }, { "start": 3189.46, "end": 3191.1, "text": " Developers don't have children that they" }, { "start": 3191.1, "end": 3192.26, "text": " want to remember later in life." }, { "start": 3192.26, "end": 3194.54, "text": " They advertise the hell out of the Nexus 7." }, { "start": 3194.54, "end": 3194.9, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3194.9, "end": 3196.42, "text": " That is a real product for them." }, { "start": 3196.42, "end": 3197.06, "text": " That's their Kindle." }, { "start": 3197.06, "end": 3197.94, "text": " That is their Kindle." }, { "start": 3197.94, "end": 3200.34, "text": " And I think they're actually gaining some traction with it." }, { "start": 3200.34, "end": 3202.7400000000002, "text": " Like, those commercials are good." }, { "start": 3202.7400000000002, "end": 3203.38, "text": " They're cheap." }, { "start": 3203.38, "end": 3204.38, "text": " The thing is cheap." }, { "start": 3204.38, "end": 3205.7400000000002, "text": " And it's a decent tablet." }, { "start": 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"text": " And I think that's meaningful." }, { "start": 3227.46, "end": 3229.1000000000004, "text": " And Amazon's newest one is $199." }, { "start": 3229.1000000000004, "end": 3230.1000000000004, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3230.1000000000004, "end": 3232.38, "text": " But the iPad runs iPad apps." }, { "start": 3232.38, "end": 3233.2200000000003, "text": " It runs iPad apps." }, { "start": 3233.2200000000003, "end": 3237.1000000000004, "text": " But most people aren't like, man, I need GarageBand." }, { "start": 3237.1000000000004, "end": 3238.02, "text": " I agree with you." }, { "start": 3238.02, "end": 3239.02, "text": " The apps are way better." }, { "start": 3239.02, "end": 3242.34, "text": " I am in the position of recommending tablets currently." }, { "start": 3242.34, "end": 3243.14, "text": " And it's the app." }, { "start": 3243.14, "end": 3245.58, "text": " Why are you in such a position?" }, { "start": 3245.58, "end": 3248.22, "text": " He's taking care of kids." }, { "start": 3248.22, "end": 3249.06, "text": " I don't want to spoil it." }, { "start": 3249.06, "end": 3250.38, "text": " But my brother's thinking about getting" }, { "start": 3250.38, "end": 3251.18, "text": " an iPad for his kids." }, { "start": 3251.18, "end": 3252.66, "text": " I hope they're not listening to this." }, { "start": 3252.66, "end": 3253.14, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3253.14, "end": 3255.14, "text": " Cover your ears, little." }, { "start": 3255.14, "end": 3255.74, "text": " Maybe." }, { "start": 3255.74, "end": 3256.66, "text": " He's thinking about it." }, { "start": 3256.66, "end": 3256.94, "text": " Wait." }, { "start": 3256.94, "end": 3259.34, "text": " One of the kids' names, maybe?" }, { "start": 3259.34, "end": 3259.82, "text": " No, God." }, { "start": 3259.82, "end": 3260.7, "text": " No, Kaziah." }, { "start": 3260.7, "end": 3261.7, "text": " Kaziah?" }, { "start": 3261.7, "end": 3262.5, "text": " He's probably not." }, { "start": 3262.5, "end": 3263.66, "text": " Kaziah and?" }, { "start": 3263.66, "end": 3264.7, "text": " Zion." }, { "start": 3264.7, "end": 3267.02, "text": " Those are some deep, serious names." }, { "start": 3267.02, "end": 3269.1, "text": " Those are like names of people in the matrix." }, { "start": 3269.1, "end": 3269.94, "text": " They're Bible references." }, { "start": 3269.94, "end": 3270.22, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3270.22, "end": 3270.82, "text": " Well, obviously." }, { "start": 3270.82, "end": 3271.7, "text": " Yeah, the matrix." }, { "start": 3271.7, "end": 3273.34, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3273.34, "end": 3274.74, "text": " Anyhow." }, { "start": 3274.74, "end": 3277.58, "text": " I'm telling them to get the iPad mini for a kid." }, { "start": 3277.58, "end": 3278.74, "text": " The cheap one." }, { "start": 3278.74, "end": 3281.58, "text": " Yeah, get the cheap, the $300 iPad mini for a kid." }, { "start": 3281.58, "end": 3283.58, "text": " They're not going to whine over the retina." }, { "start": 3283.58, "end": 3283.9, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3283.9, "end": 3285.22, "text": " They're not going to whine over the processor." }, { "start": 3285.22, "end": 3286.3, "text": " It's going to be amazing if a kid is like," }, { "start": 3286.3, "end": 3287.7, "text": " why is this a retina to this boy?" }, { "start": 3287.7, "end": 3290.54, "text": " The apps on there are so amazing." }, { "start": 3290.54, "end": 3292.58, "text": " I'm not a child, so I'm not normally" }, { "start": 3292.58, "end": 3294.06, "text": " in the market for child apps." }, { "start": 3294.06, "end": 3295.74, "text": " But I was looking through the iPad." }, { "start": 3295.74, "end": 3298.18, "text": " I mean, I would like to point out that you did show up here" }, { "start": 3298.18, "end": 3299.1, "text": " in an Elmo shirt." }, { "start": 3299.1, "end": 3300.2999999999997, "text": " And you have stickers all over your computer." }, { "start": 3300.2999999999997, "end": 3300.8599999999997, "text": " Is that swag?" }, { "start": 3300.8599999999997, "end": 3301.4199999999996, "text": " That's true." }, { "start": 3301.4199999999996, "end": 3301.8999999999996, "text": " Yeah, no." }, { "start": 3301.8999999999996, "end": 3301.8999999999996, "text": " I do." }, { "start": 3301.8999999999996, "end": 3303.3799999999997, "text": " Do you like my stickers?" }, { "start": 3303.3799999999997, "end": 3303.8999999999996, "text": " I'm just saying." }, { "start": 3303.8999999999996, "end": 3304.7799999999997, "text": " I think you know a little bit more." }, { "start": 3304.7799999999997, "end": 3306.2999999999997, "text": " Did you get a new computer?" }, { "start": 3306.2999999999997, "end": 3308.4599999999996, "text": " Yeah, I got the 11-inch 2013." }, { "start": 3308.4599999999996, "end": 3309.7799999999997, "text": " I'm really jealous of that computer." }, { "start": 3309.7799999999997, "end": 3310.7, "text": " You guys got the newest one?" }, { "start": 3310.7, "end": 3311.06, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3311.06, "end": 3311.3799999999997, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3311.3799999999997, "end": 3311.8599999999997, "text": " OK, cool." }, { "start": 3311.8599999999997, "end": 3312.2999999999997, "text": " It's pretty great." }, { "start": 3312.2999999999997, "end": 3314.14, "text": " Do we have any other topics besides the Nexus 5 camera?" }, { "start": 3314.14, "end": 3315.02, "text": " We have lots of topics." }, { "start": 3315.02, "end": 3315.7, "text": " Let's get into them." }, { "start": 3315.7, "end": 3316.8999999999996, "text": " Let's talk about them." }, { "start": 3316.8999999999996, "end": 3319.7799999999997, "text": " You didn't realize we'd do an actual Vergecast today, did you?" }, { "start": 3319.7799999999997, "end": 3321.58, "text": " We thought we were just going to be nostalgic." }, { "start": 3321.58, "end": 3326.66, "text": " We're just going to congratulate each other." }, { "start": 3326.66, "end": 3328.5, "text": " And I think that's really why the people come back." }, { "start": 3328.5, "end": 3331.2999999999997, "text": " It really is." }, { "start": 3331.2999999999997, "end": 3333.74, "text": " I've been listening to the podcast a little bit." }, { "start": 3333.74, "end": 3337.14, "text": " I listened to the last episode, which you guys were not on." }, { "start": 3337.14, "end": 3338.7, "text": " And you really enjoyed it." }, { "start": 3338.7, "end": 3341.94, "text": " Ellis did a Paul impression." }, { "start": 3341.94, "end": 3343.18, "text": " And also, can I point out?" }, { "start": 3343.18, "end": 3343.66, "text": " Uh-oh." }, { "start": 3343.66, "end": 3344.14, "text": " Uh-oh." }, { "start": 3344.14, "end": 3346.1, "text": " There's going to be some rife and some anger here." }, { "start": 3346.1, "end": 3348.66, "text": " Can I point out that it's really weird when" }, { "start": 3348.66, "end": 3351.18, "text": " you get to the end of the podcast and somebody says Paul?" }, { "start": 3351.18, "end": 3353.2999999999997, "text": " I'm touched and emotional." }, { "start": 3353.2999999999997, "end": 3356.1, "text": " And it's awesome that you guys remember me and you say Paul." }, { "start": 3356.1, "end": 3359.62, "text": " But for somebody who doesn't know this podcast" }, { "start": 3359.62, "end": 3361.3799999999997, "text": " and watches it, they're like, hey," }, { "start": 3361.3799999999997, "end": 3365.8599999999997, "text": " this is a relatively same kind of awkward kind of," }, { "start": 3365.8599999999997, "end": 3367.18, "text": " you know, they talk over each other." }, { "start": 3367.18, "end": 3368.8199999999997, "text": " And then they get to the end of the podcast." }, { "start": 3368.8199999999997, "end": 3370.18, "text": " And someone says Paul." }, { "start": 3370.18, "end": 3371.7799999999997, "text": " And they're like, what did I just watch?" }, { "start": 3371.7799999999997, "end": 3372.22, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3372.22, "end": 3373.1, "text": " You think it says that to you?" }, { "start": 3373.1, "end": 3375.1, "text": " And that's really the feeling I want to give our listeners." }, { "start": 3375.1, "end": 3376.74, "text": " I just wanted you to know that I was the Paul." }, { "start": 3376.74, "end": 3378.8999999999996, "text": " You, the stranger who made the mistake of watching" }, { "start": 3378.8999999999996, "end": 3380.06, "text": " for the first time today." }, { "start": 3380.06, "end": 3382.46, "text": " Well, backstory is I have a hard time saying my name." }, { "start": 3382.46, "end": 3384.42, "text": " God, this is nightmarish." }, { "start": 3384.42, "end": 3386.46, "text": " Like, I'm at Starbucks." }, { "start": 3386.46, "end": 3387.22, "text": " I'm at Starbucks." }, { "start": 3387.22, "end": 3388.54, "text": " It's been this way the whole time." }, { "start": 3388.54, "end": 3389.58, "text": " And they ask me my name." }, { "start": 3389.58, "end": 3392.06, "text": " Can I do, can I do, I want to do like a DVD track." }, { "start": 3392.06, "end": 3393.58, "text": " And I tell them my name." }, { "start": 3393.58, "end": 3395.54, "text": " I want to do like a, the narration of it." }, { "start": 3395.54, "end": 3396.58, "text": " And they have to ask for it again." }, { "start": 3396.58, "end": 3397.34, "text": " Better background." }, { "start": 3397.34, "end": 3398.5, "text": " Yeah, I'll never forget this." }, { "start": 3398.5, "end": 3400.02, "text": " This is what I wanted to do." }, { "start": 3400.02, "end": 3401.98, "text": " They don't, they didn't get it the first time." }, { "start": 3401.98, "end": 3402.54, "text": " I said Paul." }, { "start": 3402.54, "end": 3403.1, "text": " This is great." }, { "start": 3403.1, "end": 3404.74, "text": " And they're like, what was that?" }, { "start": 3404.74, "end": 3405.98, "text": " I can just see the email right now." }, { "start": 3405.98, "end": 3407.66, "text": " And they're right there with their sharpie and their cup." }, { "start": 3407.66, "end": 3408.2599999999998, "text": " I love you guys, but can you please" }, { "start": 3408.26, "end": 3411.0600000000004, "text": " stop talking over each other, it's very distracting." }, { "start": 3411.0600000000004, "end": 3412.38, "text": " Do you think we could do one of those like," }, { "start": 3412.38, "end": 3413.7000000000003, "text": " you know, when they have presidential debates," }, { "start": 3413.7000000000003, "end": 3416.0200000000004, "text": " they have like live audience reaction meters." }, { "start": 3416.0200000000004, "end": 3417.7400000000002, "text": " The DVD track would just be like how much" }, { "start": 3417.7400000000002, "end": 3418.82, "text": " I want to do a suicide." }, { "start": 3418.82, "end": 3420.86, "text": " Yeah, just to turn it up a little." }, { "start": 3420.86, "end": 3422.7400000000002, "text": " Oh, I really wanted to go at this point." }, { "start": 3422.7400000000002, "end": 3425.7000000000003, "text": " OK, so what's, what else?" }, { "start": 3425.7000000000003, "end": 3427.1800000000003, "text": " There's a few things to talk about." }, { "start": 3427.1800000000003, "end": 3428.1800000000003, "text": " My hair is doing something weird." }, { "start": 3428.1800000000003, "end": 3430.1400000000003, "text": " There are, there are many things to talk about." }, { "start": 3430.1400000000003, "end": 3434.0600000000004, "text": " One, FAA today told us, I'm very happy about this." }, { "start": 3434.0600000000004, "end": 3435.7400000000002, "text": " Cell phones and electronics and airplanes." }, { "start": 3435.7400000000002, "end": 3436.94, "text": " Nick building his own thing." }, { "start": 3436.94, "end": 3440.06, "text": " Delta says they're going to start doing it tomorrow." }, { "start": 3440.06, "end": 3440.82, "text": " Here's what I don't care." }, { "start": 3440.82, "end": 3441.58, "text": " Here's what I think." }, { "start": 3441.58, "end": 3447.7400000000002, "text": " I hope, I really hope and I pray and I hope and I pray" }, { "start": 3447.7400000000002, "end": 3450.46, "text": " and also hope that there is really no," }, { "start": 3450.46, "end": 3451.66, "text": " there's really no danger whatsoever." }, { "start": 3451.66, "end": 3453.14, "text": " There's no danger whatsoever." }, { "start": 3453.14, "end": 3454.46, "text": " But do you know how I know this?" }, { "start": 3454.46, "end": 3459.3, "text": " But if there is a crash because you babies couldn't wait 10 minutes." }, { "start": 3459.3, "end": 3460.7400000000002, "text": " What do you do when you're waiting?" }, { "start": 3460.7400000000002, "end": 3462.62, "text": " Just read a magazine which exists." }, { "start": 3462.62, "end": 3464.7400000000002, "text": " No, here's my theory." }, { "start": 3464.74, "end": 3467.2599999999998, "text": " I hope, I really hope that there's nothing goes wrong." }, { "start": 3467.2599999999998, "end": 3469.3799999999997, "text": " And I want to be right." }, { "start": 3469.3799999999997, "end": 3470.9799999999996, "text": " I'm happy for him that he won." }, { "start": 3470.9799999999996, "end": 3471.54, "text": " Here's the thing." }, { "start": 3471.54, "end": 3477.7, "text": " But if somebody dies because you babies couldn't wait 10 minutes" }, { "start": 3477.7, "end": 3481.1, "text": " to use your freaking kid." }, { "start": 3481.1, "end": 3482.3799999999997, "text": " Cool." }, { "start": 3482.3799999999997, "end": 3483.18, "text": " That's OK." }, { "start": 3483.18, "end": 3486.2999999999997, "text": " OK, so then you really you should feel you should feel horrible." }, { "start": 3486.2999999999997, "end": 3487.14, "text": " Here's the thing." }, { "start": 3487.14, "end": 3487.8999999999996, "text": " But no one." }, { "start": 3487.8999999999996, "end": 3488.5, "text": " No one's done." }, { "start": 3488.5, "end": 3489.9799999999996, "text": " Here's how I know." }, { "start": 3489.9799999999996, "end": 3491.2599999999998, "text": " And here's here's the two things." }, { "start": 3491.2599999999998, "end": 3492.14, "text": " It doesn't happen." }, { "start": 3492.14, "end": 3496.3799999999997, "text": " One, I'm worried that sales of print publications" }, { "start": 3496.3799999999997, "end": 3497.58, "text": " are going to fall off a cliff." }, { "start": 3497.58, "end": 3498.06, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 3498.06, "end": 3498.94, "text": " Oh, that's what that's." }, { "start": 3498.94, "end": 3500.9, "text": " You think that's what's been keeping them going is airports." }, { "start": 3500.9, "end": 3501.42, "text": " I do." }, { "start": 3501.42, "end": 3501.8199999999997, "text": " Really?" }, { "start": 3501.8199999999997, "end": 3503.8199999999997, "text": " Because I buy a car and driver in every airport that I'm in." }, { "start": 3503.8199999999997, "end": 3504.8199999999997, "text": " I'm not going to do it anymore." }, { "start": 3504.8199999999997, "end": 3506.02, "text": " Some people really like magazines." }, { "start": 3506.02, "end": 3507.06, "text": " And I love car and driver." }, { "start": 3507.06, "end": 3507.94, "text": " And I love that magazine." }, { "start": 3507.94, "end": 3509.2599999999998, "text": " But I don't need to buy it anymore." }, { "start": 3509.2599999999998, "end": 3510.2999999999997, "text": " Read it on your iPad mini." }, { "start": 3510.2999999999997, "end": 3510.8599999999997, "text": " See how it feels." }, { "start": 3510.8599999999997, "end": 3512.02, "text": " Yeah, exactly." }, { "start": 3512.02, "end": 3513.74, "text": " That's what I'm going to do because I can use it now." }, { "start": 3513.74, "end": 3514.2599999999998, "text": " Second." }, { "start": 3514.2599999999998, "end": 3514.8599999999997, "text": " There's one thing I like." }, { "start": 3514.8599999999997, "end": 3517.14, "text": " It's a magazine on a small screen that's the wrong shape." }, { "start": 3517.14, "end": 3519.06, "text": " This is personal for me." }, { "start": 3519.06, "end": 3524.42, "text": " I'm sad that my tiny feeling of pulling one over on the man" }, { "start": 3524.42, "end": 3527.98, "text": " has now been removed from the screen." }, { "start": 3527.98, "end": 3528.46, "text": " Oh, my God." }, { "start": 3528.46, "end": 3529.7, "text": " They're just noise canceling." }, { "start": 3529.7, "end": 3531.54, "text": " Yeah, I do that all the time." }, { "start": 3531.54, "end": 3532.42, "text": " Party creating." }, { "start": 3532.42, "end": 3533.58, "text": " I'm like, they're like, turn it off." }, { "start": 3533.58, "end": 3535.54, "text": " I'm like, yep, I'm just going to hit the sleep." }, { "start": 3535.54, "end": 3536.02, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3536.02, "end": 3536.7, "text": " Airplane." }, { "start": 3536.7, "end": 3538.9, "text": " No, what I said, I literally turn it off." }, { "start": 3538.9, "end": 3539.62, "text": " I like literally." }, { "start": 3539.62, "end": 3541.2599999999998, "text": " Of course, you're a law abiding citizen." }, { "start": 3541.2599999999998, "end": 3543.22, "text": " The rest of us are." }, { "start": 3543.22, "end": 3546.02, "text": " You love abiding the law." }, { "start": 3546.02, "end": 3548.58, "text": " You are of all the people I know who abide." }, { "start": 3548.58, "end": 3549.7, "text": " But it sucks." }, { "start": 3549.7, "end": 3550.18, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3550.18, "end": 3550.8199999999997, "text": " It sucks." }, { "start": 3550.8199999999997, "end": 3551.66, "text": " Sucks to abide." }, { "start": 3551.66, "end": 3552.62, "text": " It sucks to abide." }, { "start": 3552.62, "end": 3553.1, "text": " You know what?" }, { "start": 3553.1, "end": 3554.14, "text": " Now you don't have to abide." }, { "start": 3554.14, "end": 3554.7799999999997, "text": " Well, I do." }, { "start": 3554.7799999999997, "end": 3556.02, "text": " I will continue to abide." }, { "start": 3556.02, "end": 3557.22, "text": " By doing whatever you want." }, { "start": 3557.22, "end": 3558.1, "text": " Exactly." }, { "start": 3558.1, "end": 3558.86, "text": " Exactly." }, { "start": 3558.86, "end": 3559.66, "text": " Well, I just hope." }, { "start": 3559.66, "end": 3560.7, "text": " You're going to abide by having freedom." }, { "start": 3560.7, "end": 3561.7, "text": " I just hope for your sake." }, { "start": 3561.7, "end": 3562.46, "text": " The law is now freedom." }, { "start": 3562.46, "end": 3562.9, "text": " You know what?" }, { "start": 3562.9, "end": 3563.5, "text": " You know what?" }, { "start": 3563.5, "end": 3567.7, "text": " One day, one day, I want to get on an airplane," }, { "start": 3567.7, "end": 3573.66, "text": " pull out a book, read that book through takeoff, flight," }, { "start": 3573.66, "end": 3574.38, "text": " and landing." }, { "start": 3574.38, "end": 3575.1, "text": " You can do that." }, { "start": 3575.1, "end": 3575.94, "text": " Of my own volition." }, { "start": 3575.94, "end": 3576.98, "text": " You can do that right now." }, { "start": 3576.98, "end": 3577.5, "text": " Non-digitally." }, { "start": 3577.5, "end": 3578.42, "text": " I know." }, { "start": 3578.42, "end": 3580.62, "text": " But wait, Paul, why do you want to do that?" }, { "start": 3580.62, "end": 3583.3, "text": " Like, I want to feel like I have the freedom." }, { "start": 3583.3, "end": 3585.2200000000003, "text": " But I'm saying, why is that still a desire for you?" }, { "start": 3585.2200000000003, "end": 3585.86, "text": " I want to have the freedom." }, { "start": 3585.86, "end": 3586.26, "text": " But why?" }, { "start": 3586.26, "end": 3587.14, "text": " Freedom is key." }, { "start": 3587.14, "end": 3588.82, "text": " But you currently have that freedom." }, { "start": 3588.82, "end": 3590.98, "text": " When you, like, let's say you put," }, { "start": 3590.98, "end": 3592.58, "text": " if you put somebody on a couch." }, { "start": 3592.58, "end": 3594.1800000000003, "text": " Paul, this is like saying you do TV." }, { "start": 3594.1800000000003, "end": 3594.46, "text": " Hold on." }, { "start": 3594.46, "end": 3595.26, "text": " I want to hear this." }, { "start": 3595.26, "end": 3597.62, "text": " If someone's got a, this is going to be good." }, { "start": 3597.62, "end": 3598.54, "text": " Suicide." }, { "start": 3598.54, "end": 3599.78, "text": " Put somebody on a couch." }, { "start": 3599.78, "end": 3600.3, "text": " Go on." }, { "start": 3600.3, "end": 3602.38, "text": " And they have a TV." }, { "start": 3602.38, "end": 3603.7000000000003, "text": " Go on." }, { "start": 3603.7000000000003, "end": 3605.42, "text": " They're not going to want to leave." }, { "start": 3605.42, "end": 3605.94, "text": " If you put." }, { "start": 3605.94, "end": 3607.54, "text": " What does that mean?" }, { "start": 3607.54, "end": 3610.62, "text": " If you put a cage around that couch and TV," }, { "start": 3610.62, "end": 3613.2599999999998, "text": " they're going to want to get out because they'll feel trapped." }, { "start": 3613.2599999999998, "end": 3615.1, "text": " I just don't want to feel trapped anymore." }, { "start": 3615.1, "end": 3618.06, "text": " What if there's a way to get out that gets you another way?" }, { "start": 3618.06, "end": 3618.7, "text": " Hold on." }, { "start": 3618.7, "end": 3619.86, "text": " Like by not abiding?" }, { "start": 3619.86, "end": 3621.06, "text": " By thinking about it." }, { "start": 3621.06, "end": 3623.46, "text": " By thinking your way out." }, { "start": 3623.46, "end": 3625.42, "text": " I think what he's saying is if you're comfortable" }, { "start": 3625.42, "end": 3626.5, "text": " and enjoying yourself." }, { "start": 3626.5, "end": 3627.82, "text": " I want to be able to do that." }, { "start": 3627.82, "end": 3632.74, "text": " But if I feel like, oh, I've got to get my phone timing." }, { "start": 3632.74, "end": 3634.54, "text": " I don't have to worry about that." }, { "start": 3634.54, "end": 3637.06, "text": " I'm just doing what I choose to do on an airplane." }, { "start": 3637.06, "end": 3638.1, "text": " Let me just say this to you." }, { "start": 3638.1, "end": 3639.54, "text": " Things that are perfectly legal on or off an airplane." }, { "start": 3639.54, "end": 3642.82, "text": " I don't know another actual person." }, { "start": 3642.82, "end": 3644.82, "text": " There's not another person in my life" }, { "start": 3644.82, "end": 3648.82, "text": " who has more conclusively proven that they are not" }, { "start": 3648.82, "end": 3651.38, "text": " tempted by their phone or the internet" }, { "start": 3651.38, "end": 3654.2999999999997, "text": " and they can manage such temptation." }, { "start": 3654.2999999999997, "end": 3656.5, "text": " You know, another thing about an access five camera" }, { "start": 3656.5, "end": 3657.58, "text": " that I want to talk about." }, { "start": 3657.58, "end": 3659.02, "text": " I want freedom in choice." }, { "start": 3659.02, "end": 3660.06, "text": " You have it." }, { "start": 3660.06, "end": 3662.98, "text": " Well, what you're saying to me is like a man saying," }, { "start": 3662.98, "end": 3664.62, "text": " I've always wanted a glass of water." }, { "start": 3664.62, "end": 3665.14, "text": " Here's the thing." }, { "start": 3665.14, "end": 3665.94, "text": " Just have one." }, { "start": 3665.94, "end": 3667.18, "text": " If you'd walked up to me." }, { "start": 3667.18, "end": 3667.5, "text": " That's a good point." }, { "start": 3667.5, "end": 3668.42, "text": " You know what that is." }, { "start": 3668.42, "end": 3671.7000000000003, "text": " It's self punishment really." }, { "start": 3671.7000000000003, "end": 3674.1, "text": " If you walked up to me and said, hey, Paul," }, { "start": 3674.1, "end": 3677.7000000000003, "text": " you leave the internet for one year or we'll fire you." }, { "start": 3677.7000000000003, "end": 3679.42, "text": " I mean, that is what I said." }, { "start": 3679.42, "end": 3680.06, "text": " Disclaimer." }, { "start": 3680.06, "end": 3680.62, "text": " Pointing out." }, { "start": 3680.62, "end": 3682.86, "text": " Disclaimer was not said." }, { "start": 3682.86, "end": 3684.26, "text": " Was not said." }, { "start": 3684.26, "end": 3687.18, "text": " It's sort of the opposite actually." }, { "start": 3687.18, "end": 3688.54, "text": " I might have left the internet." }, { "start": 3688.54, "end": 3690.1, "text": " I might have learned some valuable lessons." }, { "start": 3690.1, "end": 3692.14, "text": " But I would have been pissed at you guys the whole time." }, { "start": 3692.14, "end": 3692.54, "text": " Oh, I see." }, { "start": 3692.54, "end": 3693.14, "text": " I see what you're saying." }, { "start": 3693.14, "end": 3694.2200000000003, "text": " But I did it of choice." }, { "start": 3694.2200000000003, "end": 3695.3, "text": " So I understand now." }, { "start": 3695.3, "end": 3697.1000000000004, "text": " So you want to read a book on airplanes." }, { "start": 3697.1000000000004, "end": 3698.86, "text": " You've always had the choice." }, { "start": 3698.86, "end": 3700.78, "text": " What we're fighting about is you want to read a book" }, { "start": 3700.78, "end": 3701.42, "text": " on an airplane." }, { "start": 3701.42, "end": 3701.42, "text": " I see." }, { "start": 3701.42, "end": 3701.42, "text": " I see." }, { "start": 3701.42, "end": 3701.7000000000003, "text": " Hold on." }, { "start": 3701.7000000000003, "end": 3703.0600000000004, "text": " What you're saying is you've always" }, { "start": 3703.0600000000004, "end": 3705.6600000000003, "text": " had the choice to get a physical book," }, { "start": 3705.6600000000003, "end": 3708.7000000000003, "text": " take it onto the plane, open it during takeoff," }, { "start": 3708.7000000000003, "end": 3711.6600000000003, "text": " begin reading it, read it throughout the flight," }, { "start": 3711.6600000000003, "end": 3715.1800000000003, "text": " read it throughout landing, and then leave the plane." }, { "start": 3715.1800000000003, "end": 3718.46, "text": " But now, and that was all you could do." }, { "start": 3718.46, "end": 3720.1800000000003, "text": " Because you couldn't have your kiddo." }, { "start": 3720.1800000000003, "end": 3721.26, "text": " You couldn't have your kiddo." }, { "start": 3721.26, "end": 3722.42, "text": " You were free." }, { "start": 3722.42, "end": 3725.2200000000003, "text": " You were free, but inside of a cage." }, { "start": 3725.22, "end": 3727.8199999999997, "text": " Now, true freedom is known." }, { "start": 3727.8199999999997, "end": 3731.14, "text": " And what is going on?" }, { "start": 3731.14, "end": 3732.5, "text": " True freedom is known." }, { "start": 3732.5, "end": 3733.7799999999997, "text": " Oh, it's a cage, Coach." }, { "start": 3733.7799999999997, "end": 3735.66, "text": " Oh, I see." }, { "start": 3735.66, "end": 3737.8199999999997, "text": " I have a number of questions about this image." }, { "start": 3737.8199999999997, "end": 3739.14, "text": " Wow, you picked that up really quickly." }, { "start": 3739.14, "end": 3740.2599999999998, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3740.2599999999998, "end": 3745.5, "text": " And now that you're able to taste true freedom, which" }, { "start": 3745.5, "end": 3748.54, "text": " is reading a Kindle during takeoff and landing," }, { "start": 3748.54, "end": 3750.62, "text": " you are going to do that." }, { "start": 3750.62, "end": 3753.02, "text": " Because I don't know what the because." }, { "start": 3753.02, "end": 3753.7, "text": " There's nothing." }, { "start": 3753.7, "end": 3757.4199999999996, "text": " I don't have anything after because why I don't have it." }, { "start": 3757.4199999999996, "end": 3759.8599999999997, "text": " Do you feel oppressed by the rules?" }, { "start": 3759.8599999999997, "end": 3762.7799999999997, "text": " I want to be an iconoclast that follows the rules." }, { "start": 3762.7799999999997, "end": 3763.3799999999997, "text": " You're the worst." }, { "start": 3763.3799999999997, "end": 3763.9399999999996, "text": " Please leave." }, { "start": 3763.9399999999996, "end": 3764.46, "text": " What?" }, { "start": 3764.46, "end": 3765.7, "text": " You said mean." }, { "start": 3765.7, "end": 3767.46, "text": " I rebel by perfectly following the rules." }, { "start": 3767.46, "end": 3768.2599999999998, "text": " Go back to Colorado." }, { "start": 3768.2599999999998, "end": 3771.8599999999997, "text": " Anybody who says, I want to be an iconoclast," }, { "start": 3771.8599999999997, "end": 3776.5, "text": " that's a thing that I think I'm going to be, just go right now." }, { "start": 3776.5, "end": 3777.3399999999997, "text": " Go back to Skype." }, { "start": 3777.3399999999997, "end": 3780.8599999999997, "text": " I was flying here from Colorado, and I'm reading a book." }, { "start": 3780.8599999999997, "end": 3782.46, "text": " The girl next to me is reading a book." }, { "start": 3782.46, "end": 3784.14, "text": " Wait, what book are you reading?" }, { "start": 3784.14, "end": 3786.5, "text": " The J.D. Salinger Nine Stories." }, { "start": 3786.5, "end": 3787.98, "text": " OK, what book is she reading?" }, { "start": 3787.98, "end": 3788.78, "text": " I didn't look." }, { "start": 3788.78, "end": 3790.2200000000003, "text": " Did you feel there was a love connection happening?" }, { "start": 3790.2200000000003, "end": 3790.7, "text": " A little bit." }, { "start": 3790.7, "end": 3791.18, "text": " Really?" }, { "start": 3791.18, "end": 3792.02, "text": " Was she cute?" }, { "start": 3792.02, "end": 3792.58, "text": " No, I didn't." }, { "start": 3792.58, "end": 3792.98, "text": " Not at all." }, { "start": 3792.98, "end": 3793.58, "text": " I didn't really get a look." }, { "start": 3793.58, "end": 3794.38, "text": " Not in your age range?" }, { "start": 3794.38, "end": 3794.94, "text": " Yeah, I didn't." }, { "start": 3794.94, "end": 3796.18, "text": " You don't think about that kind of stuff?" }, { "start": 3796.18, "end": 3797.3, "text": " I did not look closely." }, { "start": 3797.3, "end": 3798.82, "text": " OK, go on." }, { "start": 3798.82, "end": 3801.54, "text": " I want to get more of like a Julia Roberts sort of rom-com" }, { "start": 3801.54, "end": 3802.46, "text": " situation going on." }, { "start": 3802.46, "end": 3803.82, "text": " You need to meet cute, I apologize." }, { "start": 3803.82, "end": 3804.14, "text": " No, no, no." }, { "start": 3804.14, "end": 3806.7400000000002, "text": " But so like during takeoff, when it's like bumpy and stuff," }, { "start": 3806.7400000000002, "end": 3810.26, "text": " my thing is to put down my book and close my eyes." }, { "start": 3810.26, "end": 3810.78, "text": " To sleep." }, { "start": 3810.78, "end": 3813.1000000000004, "text": " So I get nauseated." }, { "start": 3813.1000000000004, "end": 3815.5, "text": " But she put her book down and closed her eyes." }, { "start": 3815.5, "end": 3816.46, "text": " And then held your hand." }, { "start": 3816.46, "end": 3818.46, "text": " And then I felt like I couldn't put down my book." }, { "start": 3818.46, "end": 3820.1800000000003, "text": " Because you didn't want to sleep with her." }, { "start": 3820.1800000000003, "end": 3821.42, "text": " Were you sitting next to each other?" }, { "start": 3821.42, "end": 3821.86, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 3821.86, "end": 3822.34, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3822.34, "end": 3823.7400000000002, "text": " You didn't want to sleep together." }, { "start": 3823.7400000000002, "end": 3825.5800000000004, "text": " You know her eyes were closed." }, { "start": 3825.5800000000004, "end": 3826.94, "text": " She wouldn't have any sleep now." }, { "start": 3826.94, "end": 3828.38, "text": " She would have no way of knowing what you were doing." }, { "start": 3828.38, "end": 3829.7000000000003, "text": " It wasn't about her knowing." }, { "start": 3829.7000000000003, "end": 3832.02, "text": " It was just about doing the same thing as somebody else." }, { "start": 3832.02, "end": 3834.02, "text": " This must be what it's like, like people" }, { "start": 3834.02, "end": 3837.5800000000004, "text": " who work at insane asylums, when they bring in the new patient" }, { "start": 3837.5800000000004, "end": 3839.34, "text": " and you're like, tell me, and they're" }, { "start": 3839.34, "end": 3841.26, "text": " like they're doing the check-in process and all that stuff." }, { "start": 3841.26, "end": 3842.02, "text": " And then they bring them in." }, { "start": 3842.02, "end": 3843.86, "text": " They're like, tell me what's been," }, { "start": 3843.86, "end": 3845.94, "text": " or just tell me what's been going on with you." }, { "start": 3845.94, "end": 3846.86, "text": " And then they do that." }, { "start": 3846.86, "end": 3848.7400000000002, "text": " They tell that story." }, { "start": 3848.7400000000002, "end": 3852.7000000000003, "text": " That's what it must feel like for that person," }, { "start": 3852.7000000000003, "end": 3854.02, "text": " for what I just felt." }, { "start": 3854.02, "end": 3856.94, "text": " I'm just saying I hope the FAA isn't pulling my leg." }, { "start": 3856.94, "end": 3857.9, "text": " Because I'm excited." }, { "start": 3857.9, "end": 3858.94, "text": " Because you're excited about freedom." }, { "start": 3858.94, "end": 3860.02, "text": " Because you close your eyes." }, { "start": 3860.02, "end": 3862.86, "text": " And you don't want a hand on your leg with your eyes closed." }, { "start": 3862.86, "end": 3865.1000000000004, "text": " I think we all know how that goes." }, { "start": 3865.1000000000004, "end": 3866.86, "text": " That is not a cool feeling." }, { "start": 3866.86, "end": 3867.58, "text": " You're in bed." }, { "start": 3867.58, "end": 3869.38, "text": " You're in a chair on a plane." }, { "start": 3869.38, "end": 3871.34, "text": " Suddenly you feel somebody pulling at your leg" }, { "start": 3871.34, "end": 3872.34, "text": " with your eyes closed." }, { "start": 3872.34, "end": 3874.38, "text": " You wake up, and it's a monster on the wing." }, { "start": 3874.38, "end": 3874.86, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 3874.86, "end": 3875.38, "text": " You know?" }, { "start": 3875.38, "end": 3876.2599999999998, "text": " They call it the FAA." }, { "start": 3876.2599999999998, "end": 3877.2599999999998, "text": " It's the Twilight Zone." }, { "start": 3877.2599999999998, "end": 3877.98, "text": " The Twilight Zone." }, { "start": 3877.98, "end": 3878.7, "text": " Movie." }, { "start": 3878.7, "end": 3879.42, "text": " Film." }, { "start": 3879.42, "end": 3880.18, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3880.18, "end": 3882.38, "text": " Do you do a thing to force yourself to go to sleep" }, { "start": 3882.38, "end": 3883.22, "text": " on red-eye flights?" }, { "start": 3883.22, "end": 3884.7, "text": " I can't sleep on red eyes." }, { "start": 3884.7, "end": 3885.74, "text": " I can't sleep on any flight." }, { "start": 3885.74, "end": 3888.1, "text": " Because I've all discovered that our staff all" }, { "start": 3888.1, "end": 3890.94, "text": " has a different collection of really weird tricks." }, { "start": 3890.94, "end": 3892.14, "text": " There's only one trick." }, { "start": 3892.14, "end": 3893.66, "text": " It's called Ambien." }, { "start": 3893.66, "end": 3895.5, "text": " Well, Christian, like slow release Ambien." }, { "start": 3895.5, "end": 3897.54, "text": " Christian, one of our video guys, slams a beer." }, { "start": 3897.54, "end": 3899.34, "text": " And then like, which makes sense." }, { "start": 3899.34, "end": 3900.22, "text": " Slam a beer." }, { "start": 3900.22, "end": 3900.74, "text": " Jordan." }, { "start": 3900.74, "end": 3905.54, "text": " Yeah, one beer that's like having a sip of water." }, { "start": 3905.54, "end": 3907.1, "text": " Another one of our video directors" }, { "start": 3907.1, "end": 3909.02, "text": " was like, you got to drink like four cups of coffee" }, { "start": 3909.02, "end": 3911.02, "text": " three hours before your flight, and the caffeine crash" }, { "start": 3911.02, "end": 3911.86, "text": " will take you down." }, { "start": 3911.86, "end": 3912.82, "text": " That's interesting." }, { "start": 3912.82, "end": 3915.14, "text": " Why not combine that with a beer?" }, { "start": 3915.14, "end": 3918.1, "text": " And my morning plan is I eat a McGriddle." }, { "start": 3918.1, "end": 3918.82, "text": " That's good." }, { "start": 3918.82, "end": 3920.98, "text": " That's solid advice." }, { "start": 3920.98, "end": 3922.02, "text": " It's like a bomb." }, { "start": 3922.02, "end": 3923.34, "text": " Like that should be like, ah." }, { "start": 3923.34, "end": 3924.22, "text": " And then it's like." }, { "start": 3924.22, "end": 3925.02, "text": " Your body's like shut." }, { "start": 3925.02, "end": 3925.66, "text": " Has to shut down." }, { "start": 3925.66, "end": 3926.62, "text": " Weaving down the eye." }, { "start": 3926.62, "end": 3928.2999999999997, "text": " I've never had a McGriddle in so long." }, { "start": 3928.2999999999997, "end": 3929.38, "text": " It's really a weird food." }, { "start": 3929.38, "end": 3930.1, "text": " It sounds good." }, { "start": 3930.1, "end": 3930.62, "text": " It's not a." }, { "start": 3930.62, "end": 3930.8199999999997, "text": " No, wait." }, { "start": 3930.8199999999997, "end": 3931.7, "text": " Let me just be clear." }, { "start": 3931.7, "end": 3932.98, "text": " I mean, eating McGriddle is like." }, { "start": 3932.98, "end": 3933.46, "text": " I know." }, { "start": 3933.46, "end": 3934.22, "text": " I've experienced it." }, { "start": 3934.22, "end": 3935.22, "text": " I want to get straight on." }, { "start": 3935.22, "end": 3936.58, "text": " It's like the future's exploding in your mouth." }, { "start": 3936.58, "end": 3937.1, "text": " That's right." }, { "start": 3937.1, "end": 3937.5, "text": " No." }, { "start": 3937.5, "end": 3939.22, "text": " It's like it's a completely synthesized food." }, { "start": 3939.22, "end": 3940.3399999999997, "text": " That is not what it's like." }, { "start": 3940.3399999999997, "end": 3941.62, "text": " It is a synthesized food." }, { "start": 3941.62, "end": 3943.5, "text": " It comes out of a tube." }, { "start": 3943.5, "end": 3944.3399999999997, "text": " Can we just get." }, { "start": 3944.3399999999997, "end": 3946.3399999999997, "text": " Ugh, this is spun wildly out of control." }, { "start": 3946.3399999999997, "end": 3947.42, "text": " Can I get a read?" }, { "start": 3947.42, "end": 3950.58, "text": " I just want to get clear on what is on a McGriddle." }, { "start": 3950.58, "end": 3954.98, "text": " First off, McGriddle is, just to be clear," }, { "start": 3954.98, "end": 3959.06, "text": " the bread component of McGriddle is made of." }, { "start": 3959.06, "end": 3959.78, "text": " It's like they." }, { "start": 3959.78, "end": 3960.94, "text": " It's made of." }, { "start": 3960.94, "end": 3961.9, "text": " It's like a pancake." }, { "start": 3961.9, "end": 3962.94, "text": " It's like a pancake." }, { "start": 3962.94, "end": 3963.58, "text": " It's a pancake." }, { "start": 3963.58, "end": 3964.34, "text": " It's a pancake." }, { "start": 3964.34, "end": 3964.82, "text": " OK." }, { "start": 3964.82, "end": 3966.94, "text": " It has McDonald's logo on it." }, { "start": 3966.94, "end": 3968.18, "text": " But no." }, { "start": 3968.18, "end": 3969.3, "text": " By the way, I don't eat meat." }, { "start": 3969.3, "end": 3970.14, "text": " But this looks." }, { "start": 3970.14, "end": 3971.3, "text": " It's a compromise." }, { "start": 3971.3, "end": 3972.3, "text": " It's ridiculous." }, { "start": 3972.3, "end": 3974.06, "text": " Like a biscuit and a pancake." }, { "start": 3974.06, "end": 3975.9, "text": " What are the odds we could get some sandwiches in here?" }, { "start": 3975.9, "end": 3976.98, "text": " We could get some McGriddles in here." }, { "start": 3976.98, "end": 3978.5, "text": " Are we doing four hours?" }, { "start": 3978.5, "end": 3980.14, "text": " Yeah, we're going to keep going." }, { "start": 3980.14, "end": 3981.26, "text": " The thing is, if I eat a McGriddle," }, { "start": 3981.26, "end": 3982.34, "text": " we won't do 10 more minutes." }, { "start": 3982.34, "end": 3983.38, "text": " Because I will be on the ground." }, { "start": 3983.38, "end": 3984.58, "text": " We'll just slam three cups of coffee." }, { "start": 3984.58, "end": 3985.06, "text": " That's it." }, { "start": 3985.06, "end": 3986.18, "text": " But that's my J." }, { "start": 3986.18, "end": 3987.06, "text": " I'll be honest with you." }, { "start": 3987.06, "end": 3987.7799999999997, "text": " I need a drink." }, { "start": 3987.7799999999997, "end": 3989.94, "text": " Ross, what's our situation with drinks?" }, { "start": 3989.94, "end": 3990.62, "text": " What do you want?" }, { "start": 3990.62, "end": 3991.02, "text": " Yo." }, { "start": 3991.02, "end": 3992.34, "text": " What do you have?" }, { "start": 3992.34, "end": 3993.5, "text": " McGriddle." }, { "start": 3993.5, "end": 3995.2599999999998, "text": " Whatever case they make McGriddle of." }, { "start": 3995.2599999999998, "end": 3997.02, "text": " Do you have whiskey?" }, { "start": 3997.02, "end": 3997.54, "text": " We're out." }, { "start": 3997.54, "end": 3998.86, "text": " We're out of whiskey?" }, { "start": 3998.86, "end": 4000.06, "text": " I mean, I work here." }, { "start": 4000.06, "end": 4002.02, "text": " What are we out of?" }, { "start": 4002.02, "end": 4003.02, "text": " I think we have like, we've been using sandwiches." }, { "start": 4003.02, "end": 4004.02, "text": " We're out of McGriddles." }, { "start": 4004.02, "end": 4005.38, "text": " Do you have vodka?" }, { "start": 4005.38, "end": 4006.98, "text": " Do we?" }, { "start": 4006.98, "end": 4007.66, "text": " Do you have any?" }, { "start": 4007.66, "end": 4009.2999999999997, "text": " I like how Ross is very not subtly." }, { "start": 4009.2999999999997, "end": 4010.2999999999997, "text": " Well, you're wearing a different hat." }, { "start": 4010.2999999999997, "end": 4011.38, "text": " And he's telling us that he is not actually a bartender." }, { "start": 4011.38, "end": 4012.94, "text": " When did you change your hat?" }, { "start": 4012.94, "end": 4016.7400000000002, "text": " Well, I'm sorry, you shouldn't be in the room then." }, { "start": 4016.7400000000002, "end": 4017.7400000000002, "text": " What else are we going to do?" }, { "start": 4017.7400000000002, "end": 4018.7400000000002, "text": " We can't get out." }, { "start": 4018.7400000000002, "end": 4020.7400000000002, "text": " Can we do the next 200 episodes with like a bartender" }, { "start": 4020.7400000000002, "end": 4021.1, "text": " in the room?" }, { "start": 4021.1, "end": 4021.82, "text": " That is a great idea." }, { "start": 4021.82, "end": 4022.5, "text": " Just kind of like shaking drinks." }, { "start": 4022.5, "end": 4023.94, "text": " I read an article in the New York Times" }, { "start": 4023.94, "end": 4025.2200000000003, "text": " that said that's a real sign of status" }, { "start": 4025.2200000000003, "end": 4027.2200000000003, "text": " when you have a bartender at one of your parties." }, { "start": 4027.2200000000003, "end": 4027.7000000000003, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4027.7000000000003, "end": 4028.86, "text": " So you know." }, { "start": 4028.86, "end": 4029.46, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4029.46, "end": 4030.9, "text": " We can finally be there." }, { "start": 4030.9, "end": 4031.66, "text": " We can finally be classy." }, { "start": 4031.66, "end": 4032.38, "text": " We can finally make it." }, { "start": 4032.38, "end": 4033.26, "text": " Actually, one of the first." }, { "start": 4033.26, "end": 4034.26, "text": " We can call it a bartender." }, { "start": 4034.26, "end": 4034.66, "text": " All right, fine." }, { "start": 4034.66, "end": 4035.7000000000003, "text": " It's fine." }, { "start": 4035.7000000000003, "end": 4036.1, "text": " It's fine." }, { "start": 4036.1, "end": 4037.82, "text": " Just whatever, you know, some crocodile," }, { "start": 4037.82, "end": 4038.94, "text": " a little battery acid." }, { "start": 4038.94, "end": 4041.2200000000003, "text": " If you have some windshield wiper fluid." }, { "start": 4041.22, "end": 4043.1, "text": " Gold up in the cup." }, { "start": 4043.1, "end": 4045.3799999999997, "text": " You really don't want to get on camera, do you?" }, { "start": 4045.3799999999997, "end": 4046.3399999999997, "text": " Why not?" }, { "start": 4046.3399999999997, "end": 4047.22, "text": " Here you go." }, { "start": 4047.22, "end": 4048.58, "text": " Just a phantom hand reaching in." }, { "start": 4048.58, "end": 4049.22, "text": " Take this." }, { "start": 4049.22, "end": 4049.8599999999997, "text": " Look at this." }, { "start": 4049.8599999999997, "end": 4051.14, "text": " No, just a phantom body." }, { "start": 4051.14, "end": 4051.8199999999997, "text": " Whole body." }, { "start": 4051.8199999999997, "end": 4052.3399999999997, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 4052.3399999999997, "end": 4053.3399999999997, "text": " Whole body situation here." }, { "start": 4053.3399999999997, "end": 4053.7, "text": " There you go." }, { "start": 4053.7, "end": 4054.22, "text": " Thank you." }, { "start": 4054.22, "end": 4054.7, "text": " OK." }, { "start": 4054.7, "end": 4055.9399999999996, "text": " Now, getting back on topic." }, { "start": 4055.9399999999996, "end": 4060.1, "text": " So the Nexus 5 was released today with KitKat, Android 4.5." }, { "start": 4060.1, "end": 4061.4599999999996, "text": " What do you think about the camera?" }, { "start": 4061.4599999999996, "end": 4061.7799999999997, "text": " Oh, god." }, { "start": 4061.7799999999997, "end": 4062.7799999999997, "text": " I'm not crazy about the camera." }, { "start": 4062.7799999999997, "end": 4063.58, "text": " Though it's macro." }, { "start": 4063.58, "end": 4064.9399999999996, "text": " There's another big story to talk about." }, { "start": 4064.9399999999996, "end": 4065.4199999999996, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4065.4199999999996, "end": 4067.66, "text": " There is actually a huge story to talk about." }, { "start": 4067.66, "end": 4069.3799999999997, "text": " More NSA crap this week." }, { "start": 4069.3799999999997, "end": 4070.14, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4070.14, "end": 4072.66, "text": " Edward Snowden has taken a job as tech support." }, { "start": 4072.66, "end": 4073.46, "text": " I don't get this." }, { "start": 4073.46, "end": 4073.98, "text": " In Russia." }, { "start": 4073.98, "end": 4075.62, "text": " This is some kind of weird tabloid." }, { "start": 4075.62, "end": 4077.06, "text": " This is like the guy, Greg Packer," }, { "start": 4077.06, "end": 4079.18, "text": " the guy who sits at the front of the iPhone line." }, { "start": 4079.18, "end": 4081.02, "text": " His whole job is to sit at the front of the iPhone line." }, { "start": 4081.02, "end": 4082.14, "text": " That's what he does for a living." }, { "start": 4082.14, "end": 4083.06, "text": " He wasn't there this time." }, { "start": 4083.06, "end": 4083.8199999999997, "text": " Hold on a second." }, { "start": 4083.8199999999997, "end": 4086.8599999999997, "text": " I didn't see any Packer stories." }, { "start": 4086.8599999999997, "end": 4087.46, "text": " Hold on." }, { "start": 4087.46, "end": 4088.14, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 4088.14, "end": 4089.5, "text": " The New Yorker just did a video on him." }, { "start": 4089.5, "end": 4090.7799999999997, "text": " But I was going to say that he now" }, { "start": 4090.7799999999997, "end": 4093.62, "text": " gets paid to wear somebody's lame t-shirt that's like," }, { "start": 4093.62, "end": 4095.9, "text": " you know, it's like Virus Cleanse 6,000." }, { "start": 4095.9, "end": 4098.26, "text": " He gets paid $100 to wear their t-shirt." }, { "start": 4098.26, "end": 4099.82, "text": " That's what this Edward Snowden job is." }, { "start": 4099.82, "end": 4100.94, "text": " He's getting tax support." }, { "start": 4100.94, "end": 4103.179999999999, "text": " No, this is like some kind of like propaganda." }, { "start": 4103.179999999999, "end": 4105.5, "text": " You mean like how like Scoble has a job at Rackspace?" }, { "start": 4105.5, "end": 4108.46, "text": " Yeah, Scoble has a job at Rackspace." }, { "start": 4108.46, "end": 4110.0599999999995, "text": " He's working there." }, { "start": 4110.0599999999995, "end": 4111.46, "text": " There's Greg Packer." }, { "start": 4111.46, "end": 4112.74, "text": " This is the worst." }, { "start": 4112.74, "end": 4114.34, "text": " Why am I looking at that?" }, { "start": 4114.34, "end": 4117.54, "text": " You know, Greg Packer and I almost got into a scuffle" }, { "start": 4117.54, "end": 4119.62, "text": " during the iPad relaunch." }, { "start": 4119.62, "end": 4121.7, "text": " Why is it still on the screen?" }, { "start": 4121.7, "end": 4123.099999999999, "text": " You guys could, I was going to say," }, { "start": 4123.099999999999, "end": 4127.259999999999, "text": " why would you do that to the people?" }, { "start": 4127.259999999999, "end": 4128.82, "text": " No, so you think this is a stunt?" }, { "start": 4128.82, "end": 4131.0199999999995, "text": " Like Snowden's taking publicity money." }, { "start": 4131.0199999999995, "end": 4133.74, "text": " I think he actually needs to get a job." }, { "start": 4133.74, "end": 4136.099999999999, "text": " Like I don't think people in Russia are like, yes," }, { "start": 4136.099999999999, "end": 4137.86, "text": " let's, Snowden will just live here." }, { "start": 4137.86, "end": 4140.66, "text": " Russia is not known for its charity." }, { "start": 4140.66, "end": 4141.62, "text": " Is that a thing?" }, { "start": 4141.62, "end": 4143.5, "text": " It can be a hard country, hard people." }, { "start": 4143.5, "end": 4144, "text": " Really?" }, { "start": 4144, "end": 4144.7, "text": " It's cold." }, { "start": 4144.7, "end": 4145.46, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 4145.46, "end": 4148.34, "text": " But anyhow, I think something's fishy about this situation." }, { "start": 4148.34, "end": 4149.58, "text": " I mean, mostly what I know about Russia" }, { "start": 4149.58, "end": 4151, "text": " is from the novel Hunter Red October." }, { "start": 4151, "end": 4153.94, "text": " Is this really the biggest NSA news is that he got a job?" }, { "start": 4153.94, "end": 4155.54, "text": " No, the big, the big, the huge." }, { "start": 4155.54, "end": 4156.78, "text": " We're working on it." }, { "start": 4156.78, "end": 4159.42, "text": " That's just the hilarious piece of news from today." }, { "start": 4159.42, "end": 4164.0599999999995, "text": " The huge news is the revelation that the NSA has tapped" }, { "start": 4164.0599999999995, "end": 4167.0599999999995, "text": " directly into the fiber optic links between Google and Yahoo's" }, { "start": 4167.0599999999995, "end": 4168.38, "text": " data centers." }, { "start": 4168.38, "end": 4172.38, "text": " So Google and Yahoo both lease private lines." }, { "start": 4172.38, "end": 4176.66, "text": " And because some of the data centers are overseas," }, { "start": 4176.66, "end": 4179.86, "text": " the NSA is like, oh, yeah, it's international stuff." }, { "start": 4179.86, "end": 4180.82, "text": " We were chartered there." }, { "start": 4180.82, "end": 4182.46, "text": " And they've tapped directly to them." }, { "start": 4182.46, "end": 4186.0199999999995, "text": " If you look at this slide, Current Efforts Google," }, { "start": 4186.02, "end": 4187.22, "text": " which looks like a brain." }, { "start": 4187.22, "end": 4189.1, "text": " It's like the right side is Google." }, { "start": 4189.1, "end": 4190.72, "text": " The left side is a public internet." }, { "start": 4190.72, "end": 4191.820000000001, "text": " The right side is Google." }, { "start": 4191.820000000001, "end": 4193.900000000001, "text": " And in the middle, if we can zoom in on that," }, { "start": 4193.900000000001, "end": 4196.5, "text": " it says, here's where SSL is added and removed" }, { "start": 4196.5, "end": 4198.14, "text": " with a smiley face." }, { "start": 4198.14, "end": 4201.18, "text": " And it's like, what the hell is this?" }, { "start": 4201.18, "end": 4203.18, "text": " There's nothing like imagining the people who" }, { "start": 4203.18, "end": 4204.900000000001, "text": " are doing this stuff." }, { "start": 4204.900000000001, "end": 4208.540000000001, "text": " They all wear brown suits and can't tie a tie properly." }, { "start": 4208.540000000001, "end": 4210.820000000001, "text": " And they're like a little bit, they have some facial hair." }, { "start": 4210.820000000001, "end": 4212.200000000001, "text": " Maybe they have a mustache." }, { "start": 4212.200000000001, "end": 4214.18, "text": " They haven't committed to a beard." }, { "start": 4214.18, "end": 4216.740000000001, "text": " They're balding probably pretty badly." }, { "start": 4216.740000000001, "end": 4219.38, "text": " And those are the people who are reading your email" }, { "start": 4219.38, "end": 4221.54, "text": " and stealing your important information." }, { "start": 4221.54, "end": 4223.700000000001, "text": " And there's been how many, the dude" }, { "start": 4223.700000000001, "end": 4226.06, "text": " got fired for looking at his girlfriend with the NSA's" }, { "start": 4226.06, "end": 4227.66, "text": " supercomputer." }, { "start": 4227.66, "end": 4228.900000000001, "text": " That's already happened." }, { "start": 4228.900000000001, "end": 4231.780000000001, "text": " Well, he's like the Bernie Madoff of the NSA scandal." }, { "start": 4231.780000000001, "end": 4232.9800000000005, "text": " They're like, we got him." }, { "start": 4232.9800000000005, "end": 4235.1, "text": " We got the guy looking at his girlfriend." }, { "start": 4235.1, "end": 4236.18, "text": " Nothing else to see here." }, { "start": 4236.18, "end": 4237.3, "text": " Everybody else is fine." }, { "start": 4237.3, "end": 4238.34, "text": " Well, this is a real problem." }, { "start": 4238.34, "end": 4241.900000000001, "text": " So today, just now, there's a huge Facebook, Google, Apple," }, { "start": 4241.9, "end": 4245.179999999999, "text": " Microsoft, AOL, a huge list of companies," }, { "start": 4245.179999999999, "end": 4248.139999999999, "text": " just wrote a letter saying they need to reform the NSA." }, { "start": 4248.139999999999, "end": 4250.0599999999995, "text": " Is this up on the verge?" }, { "start": 4250.0599999999995, "end": 4251.299999999999, "text": " It should be up on the verge." }, { "start": 4251.299999999999, "end": 4252.5, "text": " OK, can we hear the letter?" }, { "start": 4252.5, "end": 4253.42, "text": " Will you read it to us?" }, { "start": 4253.42, "end": 4254.0199999999995, "text": " Do you want me to read the letter?" }, { "start": 4254.0199999999995, "end": 4254.5199999999995, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 4254.5199999999995, "end": 4257.0599999999995, "text": " Can you read it in a dramatic accent?" }, { "start": 4257.0599999999995, "end": 4257.9, "text": " No, just do it." }, { "start": 4257.9, "end": 4259.0599999999995, "text": " You want me to read the whole thing?" }, { "start": 4259.0599999999995, "end": 4260.9, "text": " Do you want me to read it?" }, { "start": 4260.9, "end": 4261.179999999999, "text": " Would you prefer that I read it?" }, { "start": 4261.179999999999, "end": 4263.139999999999, "text": " Dear Mr. Chairman, ranking members and members." }, { "start": 4263.139999999999, "end": 4263.9, "text": " This is like four paragraphs." }, { "start": 4263.9, "end": 4264.379999999999, "text": " Who's this from?" }, { "start": 4264.379999999999, "end": 4265.0199999999995, "text": " It's really long." }, { "start": 4265.0199999999995, "end": 4265.98, "text": " Who's this from?" }, { "start": 4265.98, "end": 4267.54, "text": " Let me get this full list here." }, { "start": 4267.54, "end": 4269.42, "text": " It's signed by their logos." }, { "start": 4269.42, "end": 4272.02, "text": " AOL, Apple, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo." }, { "start": 4272.02, "end": 4273.46, "text": " This is super weird, by the way." }, { "start": 4273.46, "end": 4274.18, "text": " No, but hold on." }, { "start": 4274.18, "end": 4275.02, "text": " This is like the next." }, { "start": 4275.02, "end": 4276.34, "text": " This is huge." }, { "start": 4276.34, "end": 4276.86, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 4276.86, "end": 4279.66, "text": " This is huge, because these guys have been basically," }, { "start": 4279.66, "end": 4280.66, "text": " they have a." }, { "start": 4280.66, "end": 4281.82, "text": " They hate each other." }, { "start": 4281.82, "end": 4284.62, "text": " No, but beyond that, they have a gag order." }, { "start": 4284.62, "end": 4288.54, "text": " They can't talk about what the government is asking them to do." }, { "start": 4288.54, "end": 4291.18, "text": " I really think, I don't know, I've" }, { "start": 4291.18, "end": 4295.18, "text": " been kind of laissez-faire about the whole NSA thing," }, { "start": 4295.18, "end": 4296.9800000000005, "text": " just because it feels so out of my control." }, { "start": 4296.98, "end": 4301.98, "text": " But I really think the policy, the way to start" }, { "start": 4301.98, "end": 4305.0199999999995, "text": " is just by making things clear and obvious," }, { "start": 4305.0199999999995, "end": 4309.379999999999, "text": " and just say how far they're going to go." }, { "start": 4309.379999999999, "end": 4312.259999999999, "text": " Well, no, here's the letter." }, { "start": 4312.259999999999, "end": 4314.58, "text": " Let me just read these lines of this letter." }, { "start": 4314.58, "end": 4316.62, "text": " Recent disclosures regarding surveillance activity" }, { "start": 4316.62, "end": 4319.0199999999995, "text": " raise important concerns about the United States and abroad." }, { "start": 4319.0199999999995, "end": 4320.259999999999, "text": " The volume and complexity of information" }, { "start": 4320.259999999999, "end": 4321.74, "text": " has been disclosed in recent months," }, { "start": 4321.74, "end": 4323.78, "text": " has created significant confusion," }, { "start": 4323.78, "end": 4326.099999999999, "text": " making it difficult to identify policy prescriptions." }, { "start": 4326.1, "end": 4327.620000000001, "text": " And then they get into this stuff." }, { "start": 4327.620000000001, "end": 4329.38, "text": " We need allowing our companies to be transparent" }, { "start": 4329.38, "end": 4332.26, "text": " with a number of nature requests will help the public understand" }, { "start": 4332.26, "end": 4333.5, "text": " the facts about the government's authority" }, { "start": 4333.5, "end": 4336.620000000001, "text": " to compel technology companies to disclose user data." }, { "start": 4336.620000000001, "end": 4338.9800000000005, "text": " Transparency will also help us counter erroneous reports" }, { "start": 4338.9800000000005, "end": 4341.5, "text": " so we permit intelligence agencies direct access" }, { "start": 4341.5, "end": 4344.3, "text": " to our servers, or that we are participants in a bulk internet" }, { "start": 4344.3, "end": 4345.54, "text": " records collection program." }, { "start": 4345.54, "end": 4347.5, "text": " So what they're saying is, people" }, { "start": 4347.5, "end": 4349.820000000001, "text": " are saying that we're helping you." }, { "start": 4349.820000000001, "end": 4350.46, "text": " Complicit." }, { "start": 4350.46, "end": 4352.54, "text": " And we're just doing what we're required to do by law," }, { "start": 4352.54, "end": 4354.18, "text": " but we're not allowed to tell anybody." }, { "start": 4354.18, "end": 4355.18, "text": " No, right, of course." }, { "start": 4355.18, "end": 4357.1, "text": " That's the thing that is." }, { "start": 4357.1, "end": 4358.740000000001, "text": " Right, and then here's the second," }, { "start": 4358.740000000001, "end": 4360.02, "text": " and then there's a follow up." }, { "start": 4360.02, "end": 4361.780000000001, "text": " Transparency is a critical first step" }, { "start": 4361.780000000001, "end": 4363.54, "text": " to an informed public debate, but it's clear" }, { "start": 4363.54, "end": 4364.820000000001, "text": " that more needs to be done." }, { "start": 4364.820000000001, "end": 4366.820000000001, "text": " Our companies believe that government surveillance" }, { "start": 4366.820000000001, "end": 4368.5, "text": " practices should be reformed to include" }, { "start": 4368.5, "end": 4370.42, "text": " substantial enhancements to privacy" }, { "start": 4370.42, "end": 4372.860000000001, "text": " and appropriate oversight and accountability mechanisms." }, { "start": 4372.860000000001, "end": 4374.14, "text": " So they're saying, first, we need" }, { "start": 4374.14, "end": 4375.58, "text": " to tell people what's actually going on." }, { "start": 4375.58, "end": 4377.18, "text": " Second, we need to stop doing this" }, { "start": 4377.18, "end": 4379.14, "text": " and actually building privacy." }, { "start": 4379.14, "end": 4380.3, "text": " And this is what I've been." }, { "start": 4380.3, "end": 4382.5, "text": " I see only one problem with this." }, { "start": 4382.5, "end": 4383.860000000001, "text": " Asking the government to do it?" }, { "start": 4383.86, "end": 4386.259999999999, "text": " That AOL has signed the document." }, { "start": 4386.259999999999, "end": 4388.94, "text": " No, but this is definitely a." }, { "start": 4388.94, "end": 4389.94, "text": " Can you pass that down?" }, { "start": 4389.94, "end": 4391.78, "text": " Well, these are the largest internet companies" }, { "start": 4391.78, "end": 4392.58, "text": " in the game, right?" }, { "start": 4392.58, "end": 4393.9, "text": " Thank you, Scott." }, { "start": 4393.9, "end": 4394.42, "text": " Scott?" }, { "start": 4394.42, "end": 4395.54, "text": " Thank you, Scott." }, { "start": 4395.54, "end": 4397.179999999999, "text": " Scott Kellum?" }, { "start": 4397.179999999999, "end": 4398.46, "text": " Oh, tell Scott I said thank you." }, { "start": 4398.46, "end": 4401.0199999999995, "text": " What a wonderful gift, unless this is poison, in which case," }, { "start": 4401.0199999999995, "end": 4403.339999999999, "text": " how dare you?" }, { "start": 4403.339999999999, "end": 4404.42, "text": " What do you think?" }, { "start": 4404.42, "end": 4405.139999999999, "text": " Very smooth." }, { "start": 4405.139999999999, "end": 4407.74, "text": " I think this is an important start." }, { "start": 4407.74, "end": 4410.7, "text": " I mean, if the government wants to go into my house," }, { "start": 4410.7, "end": 4412.0199999999995, "text": " they absolutely can." }, { "start": 4412.0199999999995, "end": 4412.98, "text": " But there's a process." }, { "start": 4412.98, "end": 4415.339999999999, "text": " They can do it physically." }, { "start": 4415.339999999999, "end": 4416.379999999999, "text": " And they probably will." }, { "start": 4416.379999999999, "end": 4417.139999999999, "text": " But here's the thing." }, { "start": 4417.139999999999, "end": 4417.94, "text": " There's a process." }, { "start": 4417.94, "end": 4418.94, "text": " I know what it is." }, { "start": 4418.94, "end": 4420.86, "text": " And I also know once they've gone into my house." }, { "start": 4420.86, "end": 4423.259999999999, "text": " But you also know that they won't come into your house" }, { "start": 4423.259999999999, "end": 4425.9, "text": " because you're not doing anything wrong." }, { "start": 4425.9, "end": 4427.7, "text": " That's part of our deal with the government," }, { "start": 4427.7, "end": 4429.0199999999995, "text": " is that if you don't do anything wrong," }, { "start": 4429.0199999999995, "end": 4430.339999999999, "text": " they don't come into your house." }, { "start": 4430.339999999999, "end": 4432.139999999999, "text": " Nine times out of 10, 99 out of 100," }, { "start": 4432.139999999999, "end": 4434.339999999999, "text": " they're not busting down people's doors who haven't done" }, { "start": 4434.339999999999, "end": 4435.259999999999, "text": " anything wrong." }, { "start": 4435.259999999999, "end": 4437.419999999999, "text": " If they think I'm doing something wrong," }, { "start": 4437.419999999999, "end": 4440.259999999999, "text": " then they go to a judge and they get a warrant." }, { "start": 4440.259999999999, "end": 4441.78, "text": " They go into my house." }, { "start": 4441.78, "end": 4444.219999999999, "text": " They take my computer with my hard drives" }, { "start": 4444.219999999999, "end": 4447.5, "text": " full of gifts of Neelai." }, { "start": 4447.5, "end": 4449.46, "text": " That's a crime." }, { "start": 4449.46, "end": 4451.0199999999995, "text": " I would also like to go into your house" }, { "start": 4451.0199999999995, "end": 4452.58, "text": " to take this hard drive away." }, { "start": 4452.58, "end": 4453.099999999999, "text": " Me too." }, { "start": 4453.099999999999, "end": 4454.46, "text": " I'd like to see what's on there." }, { "start": 4454.46, "end": 4456.78, "text": " And it's also kind of obvious that they've done that." }, { "start": 4456.78, "end": 4457.58, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4457.58, "end": 4458.78, "text": " Well, it's obvious." }, { "start": 4458.78, "end": 4463.42, "text": " We need some sort of process that makes it obvious." }, { "start": 4463.42, "end": 4465.219999999999, "text": " Well, no, no, no." }, { "start": 4465.219999999999, "end": 4467.5, "text": " But just showing what you've done isn't the problem." }, { "start": 4467.5, "end": 4469.98, "text": " It's what you're doing." }, { "start": 4469.98, "end": 4471.38, "text": " It is the bulk collection." }, { "start": 4471.38, "end": 4472.5, "text": " It is the interception." }, { "start": 4472.5, "end": 4478.22, "text": " It is the broad search and seizure of people's" }, { "start": 4478.22, "end": 4481.54, "text": " private information." }, { "start": 4481.54, "end": 4486.18, "text": " No, actually, what gets me is that it just common sense" }, { "start": 4486.18, "end": 4487.58, "text": " tells you this is wrong, right?" }, { "start": 4487.58, "end": 4489.7, "text": " That the government shouldn't be able to even collect" }, { "start": 4489.7, "end": 4491.62, "text": " your metadata about this stuff." }, { "start": 4491.62, "end": 4493.5, "text": " But what they're dancing through," }, { "start": 4493.5, "end": 4497.1, "text": " they're playing legalistic games by saying, well," }, { "start": 4497.1, "end": 4499.18, "text": " that data center is in Europe." }, { "start": 4499.18, "end": 4501.22, "text": " And we have charter in Europe." }, { "start": 4501.22, "end": 4503.46, "text": " And it's like, well, dude, I'm still an American citizen" }, { "start": 4503.46, "end": 4505.740000000001, "text": " when my information is sitting on a hard drive in Europe." }, { "start": 4505.740000000001, "end": 4506.7, "text": " Let's put it this way." }, { "start": 4506.7, "end": 4509.26, "text": " When you sign up for a Google account," }, { "start": 4509.26, "end": 4512.26, "text": " you have a reasonable expectation of privacy." }, { "start": 4512.26, "end": 4514.740000000001, "text": " When they ask me to, they say, we're" }, { "start": 4514.740000000001, "end": 4516.2, "text": " at a great place to store your photos." }, { "start": 4516.2, "end": 4516.9800000000005, "text": " We'll keep them private." }, { "start": 4516.9800000000005, "end": 4519.38, "text": " You can share them when you want or keep them to yourself." }, { "start": 4519.38, "end": 4520.900000000001, "text": " My expectation is, and by the way," }, { "start": 4520.900000000001, "end": 4522.14, "text": " this isn't just an expectation." }, { "start": 4522.14, "end": 4524.18, "text": " There's stuff that they write about," }, { "start": 4524.18, "end": 4527.58, "text": " my reasonable expectation of privacy." }, { "start": 4527.58, "end": 4533.74, "text": " That privacy has been violated in secret by the government." }, { "start": 4533.74, "end": 4538.86, "text": " And the premise is we have to violate your privacy." }, { "start": 4538.86, "end": 4540.1, "text": " You're a US citizen." }, { "start": 4540.1, "end": 4541.78, "text": " You've done nothing wrong." }, { "start": 4541.78, "end": 4545.7, "text": " But in order to ensure that there's not a terrorist attack," }, { "start": 4545.7, "end": 4547.26, "text": " we have to violate your privacy." }, { "start": 4547.26, "end": 4549.26, "text": " But we're not looking specifically at your stuff." }, { "start": 4549.26, "end": 4551.8, "text": " We're just trying to get a sense of where all this is going." }, { "start": 4551.8, "end": 4556.54, "text": " Or we think there may be some third, fourth, fifth connection" }, { "start": 4556.54, "end": 4557.18, "text": " out there." }, { "start": 4557.18, "end": 4557.740000000001, "text": " And I think." }, { "start": 4557.740000000001, "end": 4560.38, "text": " But the fact is, but here's the deal." }, { "start": 4560.38, "end": 4561.3, "text": " Here's what I'm saying." }, { "start": 4561.3, "end": 4563.9800000000005, "text": " And I think what most Americans would say as citizens." }, { "start": 4563.9800000000005, "end": 4569.26, "text": " I'm willing to accept the danger of another terrorist attack" }, { "start": 4569.26, "end": 4572.860000000001, "text": " in exchange for my continued privacy as a US citizen." }, { "start": 4572.860000000001, "end": 4574.9800000000005, "text": " I'm not willing to accept a police state where" }, { "start": 4574.9800000000005, "end": 4577.54, "text": " all of my documents are viewed continuously" }, { "start": 4577.54, "end": 4580.16, "text": " by a secret part of the government" }, { "start": 4580.16, "end": 4582.3, "text": " so that maybe someday they'll find a thing that" }, { "start": 4582.3, "end": 4583.5, "text": " connects some other stuff up." }, { "start": 4583.5, "end": 4588.06, "text": " The next wave of this stuff is like crazy shit." }, { "start": 4588.06, "end": 4590.02, "text": " It's like pre-crime and thought crime." }, { "start": 4590.02, "end": 4591.54, "text": " It's like it's saying like." }, { "start": 4591.54, "end": 4594.26, "text": " You mentioned, God, I want to kill him in an email to somebody." }, { "start": 4594.26, "end": 4596.54, "text": " And the next thing you know, you set off a bell somewhere." }, { "start": 4596.54, "end": 4598.3, "text": " And there's investigators at your house saying," }, { "start": 4598.3, "end": 4599.34, "text": " we understand that you've got a death threat." }, { "start": 4599.34, "end": 4601.38, "text": " And there are examples of this floating around in the world." }, { "start": 4601.38, "end": 4602.38, "text": " Yeah, absolutely." }, { "start": 4602.38, "end": 4605.66, "text": " I mean, the police are already using this stuff out of context." }, { "start": 4605.66, "end": 4613.06, "text": " And they should be allowed to track and monitor and record" }, { "start": 4613.06, "end": 4615.42, "text": " public connections that you make in public." }, { "start": 4615.42, "end": 4616.18, "text": " Yeah, of course." }, { "start": 4616.18, "end": 4618.02, "text": " I can't shake when you hand shake with people." }, { "start": 4618.02, "end": 4618.900000000001, "text": " Yeah, oh yeah." }, { "start": 4618.900000000001, "end": 4620.06, "text": " In front of the CCTV." }, { "start": 4620.06, "end": 4621.3, "text": " And the hand of bruisers." }, { "start": 4621.3, "end": 4624.860000000001, "text": " I mean, I think this, like, if you really are," }, { "start": 4624.860000000001, "end": 4628.820000000001, "text": " if there's real data that suggests that you are" }, { "start": 4628.820000000001, "end": 4631.22, "text": " part of a terrorist organization," }, { "start": 4631.22, "end": 4633.740000000001, "text": " like safety's off, fire at will." }, { "start": 4633.740000000001, "end": 4635.06, "text": " But how do you see that data?" }, { "start": 4635.06, "end": 4636.22, "text": " Well, no, but that's the thing." }, { "start": 4636.22, "end": 4637.06, "text": " Like, you've got to." }, { "start": 4637.06, "end": 4638.22, "text": " They already need that data." }, { "start": 4638.22, "end": 4640.06, "text": " You can't go get it." }, { "start": 4640.06, "end": 4640.580000000001, "text": " Exactly." }, { "start": 4640.580000000001, "end": 4641.42, "text": " I mean, that's exactly." }, { "start": 4641.42, "end": 4642.54, "text": " Just the way you can't break down my." }, { "start": 4642.54, "end": 4644.1, "text": " You can't break down every door in America." }, { "start": 4644.1, "end": 4647.22, "text": " And you can't pop open people's trunks" }, { "start": 4647.22, "end": 4648.54, "text": " and see if they've got pot in there." }, { "start": 4648.54, "end": 4649.5, "text": " Exactly." }, { "start": 4649.5, "end": 4650.5, "text": " But the problem is that." }, { "start": 4650.5, "end": 4651.42, "text": " I was talking to my brother about this." }, { "start": 4651.42, "end": 4654.66, "text": " And he actually put it in a really, really great light" }, { "start": 4654.66, "end": 4656.3, "text": " that I hadn't thought about before." }, { "start": 4656.3, "end": 4666.34, "text": " The police of our country are kind of like the executive," }, { "start": 4666.34, "end": 4671.54, "text": " in the sense like you could have martial law, essentially." }, { "start": 4671.54, "end": 4674.38, "text": " Like, the police are the people who prosecute the laws." }, { "start": 4674.38, "end": 4675.22, "text": " No, they're not." }, { "start": 4675.22, "end": 4678.82, "text": " In the sense of, or execute the laws." }, { "start": 4678.82, "end": 4680.34, "text": " They execute the." }, { "start": 4680.34, "end": 4681.3, "text": " They physically execute." }, { "start": 4681.3, "end": 4681.86, "text": " They're around." }, { "start": 4681.86, "end": 4682.34, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 4682.34, "end": 4685.22, "text": " They're the physical manifestation of the law." }, { "start": 4685.22, "end": 4686.46, "text": " Is that a good way to say it?" }, { "start": 4686.46, "end": 4686.94, "text": " Sure." }, { "start": 4686.94, "end": 4687.42, "text": " In a way." }, { "start": 4687.42, "end": 4688.62, "text": " Well, sometimes." }, { "start": 4688.62, "end": 4689.98, "text": " I mean, yes." }, { "start": 4689.98, "end": 4693.22, "text": " Let's just, for the sake of this analogy." }, { "start": 4693.22, "end": 4696.38, "text": " Is this what it's like talking to a crazy person?" }, { "start": 4696.38, "end": 4698.34, "text": " No, this is like that you would drive." }, { "start": 4698.34, "end": 4699.34, "text": " It's like a verge cast." }, { "start": 4699.34, "end": 4707.3, "text": " And they are kept in check by judicial brands, by lawyers." }, { "start": 4707.3, "end": 4707.78, "text": " This is right." }, { "start": 4707.78, "end": 4708.58, "text": " This is basically right." }, { "start": 4708.58, "end": 4709.06, "text": " And judges." }, { "start": 4709.06, "end": 4711.1, "text": " And they have to ask judges for permission." }, { "start": 4711.1, "end": 4713.860000000001, "text": " And that's what keeps them in check." }, { "start": 4713.860000000001, "end": 4715.18, "text": " A detective can't." }, { "start": 4715.18, "end": 4717.22, "text": " I have a hunch that this guy's a murderer." }, { "start": 4717.22, "end": 4718.74, "text": " They have to go to a judge and say," }, { "start": 4718.74, "end": 4719.9800000000005, "text": " we've got to search his house." }, { "start": 4719.9800000000005, "end": 4720.5, "text": " We've got good." }, { "start": 4720.5, "end": 4721.78, "text": " And here's proof." }, { "start": 4721.78, "end": 4723.62, "text": " Here's evidence that we have that suggests" }, { "start": 4723.62, "end": 4724.66, "text": " that this guy's a murderer." }, { "start": 4724.66, "end": 4725.58, "text": " And now we're going to get a warrant" }, { "start": 4725.58, "end": 4726.54, "text": " and go search his house." }, { "start": 4726.54, "end": 4727.06, "text": " And I say." }, { "start": 4727.06, "end": 4729.26, "text": " You can't just go search his house." }, { "start": 4729.26, "end": 4736.74, "text": " NSA's entire working structure, operation, and going in" }, { "start": 4736.74, "end": 4742.06, "text": " and getting data all needs to be subservient to or checked" }, { "start": 4742.06, "end": 4744.7, "text": " by some similar structure." }, { "start": 4744.7, "end": 4747.74, "text": " You can't have something in government with the sort" }, { "start": 4747.74, "end": 4751.780000000001, "text": " of power that the NSA has without a direct check." }, { "start": 4751.780000000001, "end": 4752.7, "text": " Time out." }, { "start": 4752.7, "end": 4754.34, "text": " This is their whole argument." }, { "start": 4754.34, "end": 4758.22, "text": " The NSA has no jurisdiction over America." }, { "start": 4758.22, "end": 4761.46, "text": " That's why they're tapping Angela Merkel's cell phone." }, { "start": 4761.46, "end": 4762.42, "text": " Because they can." }, { "start": 4762.42, "end": 4765.02, "text": " Also because she's saying crazy stuff." }, { "start": 4765.02, "end": 4766.66, "text": " She's just constantly Snapchatting." }, { "start": 4766.66, "end": 4769.02, "text": " She's just, uh." }, { "start": 4769.02, "end": 4770.62, "text": " No, wrong." }, { "start": 4770.62, "end": 4771.1, "text": " Wrong." }, { "start": 4771.1, "end": 4773.14, "text": " No, but that's why they can, right?" }, { "start": 4773.14, "end": 4776.02, "text": " There's like a scene in the movie Sneakers where like." }, { "start": 4776.02, "end": 4777.14, "text": " Too many secrets." }, { "start": 4777.14, "end": 4777.66, "text": " Well, no." }, { "start": 4777.66, "end": 4778.9400000000005, "text": " Robert Redford is like, oh, you're" }, { "start": 4778.9400000000005, "end": 4780.26, "text": " the guys listening to my phone." }, { "start": 4780.26, "end": 4781.900000000001, "text": " And the dude's like, no, that's the FBI." }, { "start": 4781.900000000001, "end": 4784.38, "text": " The NSA is not chartered for domestic surveillance." }, { "start": 4784.38, "end": 4786.18, "text": " And like, what they're doing is they're" }, { "start": 4786.18, "end": 4790.18, "text": " because the internet is not respectful of boundaries," }, { "start": 4790.18, "end": 4792.5, "text": " like political or physical boundaries." }, { "start": 4792.5, "end": 4795.5, "text": " They're saying as soon as your information leaves" }, { "start": 4795.5, "end": 4797.22, "text": " the boundaries of the United States, which" }, { "start": 4797.22, "end": 4800.34, "text": " it's doing all the time, now we have charter to do it." }, { "start": 4800.34, "end": 4803.62, "text": " I was talking to my brother about this." }, { "start": 4803.62, "end": 4805.5, "text": " He's in the military." }, { "start": 4805.5, "end": 4808.42, "text": " And the military is another organization" }, { "start": 4808.42, "end": 4810.700000000001, "text": " that has power to act." }, { "start": 4810.700000000001, "end": 4815.04, "text": " And that power is kept in check by a ton of regulations." }, { "start": 4815.04, "end": 4819.3, "text": " And any strike that they would execute," }, { "start": 4819.3, "end": 4825.58, "text": " you have to basically have a legal proof for why" }, { "start": 4825.58, "end": 4832.34, "text": " it is an appropriate war action that were to ever be questioned" }, { "start": 4832.34, "end": 4835.34, "text": " would uphold legally that that was an appropriate war action." }, { "start": 4835.34, "end": 4838.58, "text": " That's not our people." }, { "start": 4838.58, "end": 4840.38, "text": " It's like the military just because, well," }, { "start": 4840.38, "end": 4842.54, "text": " they're not US citizens, so we can shoot everybody." }, { "start": 4842.54, "end": 4845.3, "text": " The military follows a very close code." }, { "start": 4845.3, "end": 4846.06, "text": " No, that's right." }, { "start": 4846.06, "end": 4846.62, "text": " That's right." }, { "start": 4846.62, "end": 4847.1, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 4847.1, "end": 4850.66, "text": " But there's a difference between shooting people and spying" }, { "start": 4850.66, "end": 4851.16, "text": " on them." }, { "start": 4851.16, "end": 4855.38, "text": " And we've decided that it's 100% OK to spy on everybody." }, { "start": 4855.38, "end": 4857.38, "text": " I think the fact is, oh my god." }, { "start": 4857.38, "end": 4861.46, "text": " We've mostly given the NSA the right to spy on things." }, { "start": 4861.46, "end": 4863.86, "text": " Because the balance of the equation" }, { "start": 4863.86, "end": 4865.7, "text": " is that if we give them all kinds of power" }, { "start": 4865.7, "end": 4867.7, "text": " to spy on things, we probably won't" }, { "start": 4867.7, "end": 4869.38, "text": " have to use the military as much." }, { "start": 4869.38, "end": 4872.5, "text": " But or less." }, { "start": 4872.5, "end": 4873.54, "text": " Well, I said as much." }, { "start": 4873.54, "end": 4876.22, "text": " We keep using the hell out of the military." }, { "start": 4876.22, "end": 4877.66, "text": " But that's the equation." }, { "start": 4877.66, "end": 4880.26, "text": " But what's happening is that they're turning around." }, { "start": 4880.26, "end": 4883.26, "text": " Because the internet is where the people are," }, { "start": 4883.26, "end": 4885.74, "text": " and now the people are spread out over the world." }, { "start": 4885.74, "end": 4889.42, "text": " And that old boundary of you can operate outside that border" }, { "start": 4889.42, "end": 4892.94, "text": " but not inside this one doesn't exist for our behavior." }, { "start": 4892.94, "end": 4894.86, "text": " It's like they're sneaking into our borders." }, { "start": 4894.86, "end": 4897.98, "text": " But the fact is, the NSA is illegal immigrants." }, { "start": 4897.98, "end": 4898.86, "text": " But here's the thing." }, { "start": 4898.86, "end": 4901.38, "text": " I mean, the long and short of it is this." }, { "start": 4901.38, "end": 4903.82, "text": " We have to accept." }, { "start": 4903.82, "end": 4906.18, "text": " And I think maybe weirdly we all agree on this." }, { "start": 4906.18, "end": 4909.3, "text": " But we have to accept that there is and always will" }, { "start": 4909.3, "end": 4911.66, "text": " be a danger, a threat." }, { "start": 4911.66, "end": 4913.22, "text": " There's always a threat, right?" }, { "start": 4913.22, "end": 4914.02, "text": " That threat is you." }, { "start": 4914.02, "end": 4914.9800000000005, "text": " Well, no, no, no." }, { "start": 4914.9800000000005, "end": 4915.66, "text": " But hold on." }, { "start": 4915.66, "end": 4919.06, "text": " But we have to accept that you could" }, { "start": 4919.06, "end": 4922.1, "text": " be the safest, the most careful." }, { "start": 4922.1, "end": 4923.42, "text": " You could spy on everybody." }, { "start": 4923.42, "end": 4925.34, "text": " You could have every communication." }, { "start": 4925.34, "end": 4926.9400000000005, "text": " But there's always going to be a threat." }, { "start": 4926.94, "end": 4931.94, "text": " Like this kind of surveillance, this kind of broad surveillance" }, { "start": 4931.94, "end": 4934.86, "text": " is a fear-based reaction to something." }, { "start": 4934.86, "end": 4937.62, "text": " He who gives up freedom for safety deserves freedom." }, { "start": 4937.62, "end": 4938.9, "text": " Wait, what is it?" }, { "start": 4938.9, "end": 4939.419999999999, "text": " What was it?" }, { "start": 4939.419999999999, "end": 4940.419999999999, "text": " No, go." }, { "start": 4940.419999999999, "end": 4940.9, "text": " Who was that?" }, { "start": 4940.9, "end": 4941.5, "text": " Get out." }, { "start": 4941.5, "end": 4942.419999999999, "text": " Was it Ron Paul?" }, { "start": 4942.419999999999, "end": 4943.7, "text": " It was the Benjamin Franklin." }, { "start": 4943.7, "end": 4944.179999999999, "text": " Go." }, { "start": 4944.179999999999, "end": 4944.9, "text": " Get out of here." }, { "start": 4944.9, "end": 4946.419999999999, "text": " What's wrong with Benjamin Franklin?" }, { "start": 4946.419999999999, "end": 4947.98, "text": " Benjamin Franklin is a true patriot." }, { "start": 4947.98, "end": 4949.099999999999, "text": " My Wi-Fi is messed up on here." }, { "start": 4949.099999999999, "end": 4950.219999999999, "text": " Now I'm going to have to reconnect." }, { "start": 4950.219999999999, "end": 4950.62, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4950.62, "end": 4953.82, "text": " And I think you deserve it for throwing that old stale ass" }, { "start": 4953.82, "end": 4954.62, "text": " quote in my face." }, { "start": 4954.62, "end": 4955.86, "text": " What was the quote?" }, { "start": 4955.86, "end": 4961.139999999999, "text": " He who gives up safety." }, { "start": 4961.139999999999, "end": 4961.98, "text": " Yeah, go ahead." }, { "start": 4961.98, "end": 4962.7, "text": " Do it." }, { "start": 4962.7, "end": 4965.339999999999, "text": " No, he who gives up freedom for safety deserves neither." }, { "start": 4965.339999999999, "end": 4966.58, "text": " Yeah, I agree." }, { "start": 4966.58, "end": 4967.5, "text": " That's ridiculous." }, { "start": 4967.5, "end": 4968.54, "text": " Let me tell you something." }, { "start": 4968.54, "end": 4969.299999999999, "text": " It's a great quote." }, { "start": 4969.299999999999, "end": 4974.94, "text": " It's not worth giving up our right as Americans to privacy." }, { "start": 4974.94, "end": 4976.78, "text": " It all goes back to the Patriot Act." }, { "start": 4976.78, "end": 4977.98, "text": " Oh, yes, it does." }, { "start": 4977.98, "end": 4980.0199999999995, "text": " Wait, are you pro or?" }, { "start": 4980.0199999999995, "end": 4980.78, "text": " Are you pro?" }, { "start": 4980.78, "end": 4981.82, "text": " I'm against the Patriot Act." }, { "start": 4981.82, "end": 4983.38, "text": " I'm against the Patriot Act, too." }, { "start": 4983.38, "end": 4984.54, "text": " Everyone has to agree on that." }, { "start": 4984.54, "end": 4985.46, "text": " I can't believe this is happening." }, { "start": 4985.46, "end": 4986.54, "text": " I can't believe it either." }, { "start": 4986.54, "end": 4987.38, "text": " But here's the thing." }, { "start": 4987.38, "end": 4990.02, "text": " The Patriot Act ruined everything." }, { "start": 4990.02, "end": 4992.3, "text": " It basically was like at a time of the greatest fear" }, { "start": 4992.3, "end": 4993.14, "text": " in America." }, { "start": 4993.14, "end": 4996.5, "text": " We were like, hey, guys, stuff's really messed up." }, { "start": 4996.5, "end": 4999.06, "text": " Let's just sign this crazy thing into law," }, { "start": 4999.06, "end": 5001.14, "text": " and we're going to use it for all sorts of stuff." }, { "start": 5001.14, "end": 5002.02, "text": " Don't worry about it." }, { "start": 5002.02, "end": 5003.58, "text": " And it's been a nightmare ever since." }, { "start": 5003.58, "end": 5005.34, "text": " I'm pretty sure that's why we had a financial collapse" }, { "start": 5005.34, "end": 5007.06, "text": " this card is a Patriot Act." }, { "start": 5007.06, "end": 5009.62, "text": " They're like, oh, yeah, by the way, no regulation of anything." }, { "start": 5009.62, "end": 5013.34, "text": " I think the government absolutely needs" }, { "start": 5013.34, "end": 5018.9800000000005, "text": " to have the power to look in on absolutely any digital" }, { "start": 5018.9800000000005, "end": 5019.46, "text": " communication." }, { "start": 5019.46, "end": 5022.1, "text": " So then you agree that Bush was a terrible president, right?" }, { "start": 5022.1, "end": 5022.58, "text": " Oh, god, why?" }, { "start": 5022.58, "end": 5023.66, "text": " No." }, { "start": 5023.66, "end": 5024.9800000000005, "text": " Suicide." }, { "start": 5024.9800000000005, "end": 5026.58, "text": " Suicide." }, { "start": 5026.58, "end": 5028.9400000000005, "text": " It's his era is the Patriot Act era." }, { "start": 5028.9400000000005, "end": 5029.54, "text": " Anything." }, { "start": 5029.54, "end": 5030.22, "text": " Anything else." }, { "start": 5030.22, "end": 5031.78, "text": " Come on." }, { "start": 5031.78, "end": 5032.860000000001, "text": " Let's talk about abortion." }, { "start": 5032.860000000001, "end": 5033.62, "text": " Just kidding." }, { "start": 5033.62, "end": 5034.58, "text": " I'm kidding." }, { "start": 5034.58, "end": 5038.7, "text": " But seriously, folks, the new Nexus 5 with KitKat" }, { "start": 5038.7, "end": 5041.22, "text": " has some interesting features that I would like to talk about." }, { "start": 5041.22, "end": 5042.860000000001, "text": " Guys, Paul's back on the VirgCat." }, { "start": 5042.86, "end": 5044.58, "text": " It really is." }, { "start": 5044.58, "end": 5046.66, "text": " But you know, Paul did take the Virg." }, { "start": 5046.66, "end": 5050.179999999999, "text": " With Paul on the VirgCast on a regular basis, he took it." }, { "start": 5050.179999999999, "end": 5051.82, "text": " Yeah, that was rude." }, { "start": 5051.82, "end": 5052.9, "text": " You owe him an apology." }, { "start": 5052.9, "end": 5053.42, "text": " I did." }, { "start": 5053.42, "end": 5054.42, "text": " I just apologized." }, { "start": 5054.42, "end": 5055.66, "text": " You don't need to apologize." }, { "start": 5055.66, "end": 5057.339999999999, "text": " A better apology, but a bigger one." }, { "start": 5057.339999999999, "end": 5058.66, "text": " A more heartfelt apology." }, { "start": 5058.66, "end": 5059.78, "text": " I don't think you really meant that." }, { "start": 5059.78, "end": 5060.299999999999, "text": " Yeah, I agree." }, { "start": 5060.299999999999, "end": 5061.82, "text": " Can we see something really with feelings?" }, { "start": 5061.82, "end": 5062.98, "text": " Well, I don't apologize about my feelings." }, { "start": 5062.98, "end": 5063.98, "text": " Can you cry on demand?" }, { "start": 5063.98, "end": 5065.259999999999, "text": " No, I don't know how." }, { "start": 5065.259999999999, "end": 5065.78, "text": " OK." }, { "start": 5065.78, "end": 5066.74, "text": " Have you seen that film?" }, { "start": 5066.74, "end": 5067.42, "text": " It's on demand." }, { "start": 5067.42, "end": 5067.9, "text": " Cry." }, { "start": 5067.9, "end": 5068.54, "text": " I believe it says that." }, { "start": 5068.54, "end": 5069.9, "text": " The thing is to cry on demand, you" }, { "start": 5069.9, "end": 5071.0599999999995, "text": " have to think of something sad." }, { "start": 5071.0599999999995, "end": 5071.86, "text": " Marisa Tomei." }, { "start": 5071.86, "end": 5073.66, "text": " And I refuse to acknowledge sad things." }, { "start": 5073.66, "end": 5074.219999999999, "text": " Yeah, Cry." }, { "start": 5074.219999999999, "end": 5074.66, "text": " There's a new James Franco." }, { "start": 5074.66, "end": 5075.82, "text": " It's on VELV on demand." }, { "start": 5075.82, "end": 5076.219999999999, "text": " Really?" }, { "start": 5076.219999999999, "end": 5076.7, "text": " No." }, { "start": 5076.7, "end": 5077.179999999999, "text": " Cry." }, { "start": 5077.179999999999, "end": 5079.0599999999995, "text": " You said cry on demand." }, { "start": 5079.0599999999995, "end": 5080.339999999999, "text": " Is there a movie called Cry?" }, { "start": 5080.339999999999, "end": 5080.98, "text": " No." }, { "start": 5080.98, "end": 5081.5, "text": " OK." }, { "start": 5081.5, "end": 5083.42, "text": " Moving on." }, { "start": 5083.42, "end": 5084.7, "text": " What else do we have to talk about, Eli?" }, { "start": 5084.7, "end": 5085.46, "text": " What else is in there?" }, { "start": 5085.46, "end": 5087.299999999999, "text": " How long have we been doing this for, by the way?" }, { "start": 5087.299999999999, "end": 5087.98, "text": " Can we talk about?" }, { "start": 5087.98, "end": 5089.099999999999, "text": " 90 crazy minutes." }, { "start": 5089.099999999999, "end": 5090.339999999999, "text": " Can we talk about Lou Reed?" }, { "start": 5090.339999999999, "end": 5091.339999999999, "text": " Like as a whole movie?" }, { "start": 5091.339999999999, "end": 5091.82, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 5091.82, "end": 5092.299999999999, "text": " Can we?" }, { "start": 5092.299999999999, "end": 5093.259999999999, "text": " Bring it way down." }, { "start": 5093.259999999999, "end": 5094.66, "text": " Totally different." }, { "start": 5094.66, "end": 5095.299999999999, "text": " Lou Reed." }, { "start": 5095.299999999999, "end": 5096.78, "text": " Best segue ever." }, { "start": 5096.78, "end": 5097.42, "text": " OK." }, { "start": 5097.42, "end": 5098.5, "text": " So the, the, the, the, the, the," }, { "start": 5098.5, "end": 5099.259999999999, "text": " Are you, I don't know." }, { "start": 5099.259999999999, "end": 5100.42, "text": " Are you a Velvet Underground fan?" }, { "start": 5100.42, "end": 5101.86, "text": " I don't know what your story is." }, { "start": 5101.86, "end": 5103.78, "text": " The famous, you know, the line is that like, you know," }, { "start": 5103.78, "end": 5105.5, "text": " like what is it?" }, { "start": 5105.5, "end": 5108.18, "text": " Only like a thousand people bought Velvet Underground." }, { "start": 5108.18, "end": 5109.26, "text": " I'm not going to Google it." }, { "start": 5109.26, "end": 5110.14, "text": " Yeah, Google it." }, { "start": 5110.14, "end": 5110.9400000000005, "text": " Just Google it." }, { "start": 5110.9400000000005, "end": 5111.34, "text": " Just Google it." }, { "start": 5111.34, "end": 5112.62, "text": " Well, now you can Google that, bro." }, { "start": 5112.62, "end": 5114.9800000000005, "text": " Yeah, you're like, the famous line is, one second." }, { "start": 5114.9800000000005, "end": 5117.14, "text": " Everybody knows that old adage that, well, in one moment" }, { "start": 5117.14, "end": 5118.34, "text": " I have to look this up." }, { "start": 5118.34, "end": 5119.58, "text": " I'm sorry." }, { "start": 5119.58, "end": 5122.18, "text": " Lou, no, but Lou Reed, I was very, very, very bummed" }, { "start": 5122.18, "end": 5125.14, "text": " and very depressed when I heard the news." }, { "start": 5125.14, "end": 5125.46, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 5125.46, "end": 5127.86, "text": " You know, a lot of people, my favorite Lou Reed record" }, { "start": 5127.86, "end": 5129.02, "text": " is Street Hassle." }, { "start": 5129.02, "end": 5129.5, "text": " Interesting." }, { "start": 5129.5, "end": 5132.34, "text": " And yeah, well, a lot of people are like, oh," }, { "start": 5132.34, "end": 5133.54, "text": " I love the Velvet Underground." }, { "start": 5133.54, "end": 5139.54, "text": " And, and, you know, there's, it's not his most," }, { "start": 5139.54, "end": 5142.3, "text": " it's not his most popular record, Street Hassle." }, { "start": 5142.3, "end": 5142.94, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 5142.94, "end": 5144.34, "text": " But it's got some amazing songs." }, { "start": 5144.34, "end": 5145.54, "text": " Like the song Street Hassle?" }, { "start": 5145.54, "end": 5148.58, "text": " The song Street Hassle, which features Bruce Springsteen." }, { "start": 5148.58, "end": 5149.3, "text": " It is amazing." }, { "start": 5149.3, "end": 5150.54, "text": " And it's like, it's just crazy." }, { "start": 5150.54, "end": 5152.38, "text": " He just appears in the middle of the song" }, { "start": 5152.38, "end": 5153.98, "text": " and like said, does some beat poetry." }, { "start": 5153.98, "end": 5154.46, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 5154.46, "end": 5155.38, "text": " And then just jams out." }, { "start": 5155.38, "end": 5156.18, "text": " He's like, I'm out of here." }, { "start": 5156.18, "end": 5158.1, "text": " And he kind of like references Born to Run a little bit." }, { "start": 5158.1, "end": 5158.62, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 5158.62, "end": 5159.1, "text": " Yeah, of course." }, { "start": 5159.1, "end": 5161.26, "text": " I mean, he's, he's, cause you know, he's an e-beater." }, { "start": 5161.26, "end": 5162.58, "text": " Can I, can I ask something?" }, { "start": 5162.58, "end": 5164.54, "text": " So the line, the Velvet Underground's first album." }, { "start": 5164.54, "end": 5165.46, "text": " You've never heard Street Hassle?" }, { "start": 5165.46, "end": 5165.46, "text": " I've heard Street Hassle." }, { "start": 5165.46, "end": 5167.58, "text": " I just really dislike Bruce Springsteen." }, { "start": 5167.58, "end": 5169.14, "text": " Well, yeah, I don't like Bruce Springsteen either." }, { "start": 5169.14, "end": 5170.1, "text": " I mean, I, I, there's not." }, { "start": 5170.1, "end": 5171.54, "text": " I mean, I like him as a man." }, { "start": 5171.54, "end": 5172.46, "text": " I just don't like his music." }, { "start": 5172.46, "end": 5173.02, "text": " As a guy." }, { "start": 5173.02, "end": 5173.620000000001, "text": " I mean, I like drinking with him." }, { "start": 5173.620000000001, "end": 5174.3, "text": " No, no, as a person, he's great." }, { "start": 5174.3, "end": 5176.58, "text": " But like none of his albums or, or most of them?" }, { "start": 5176.58, "end": 5177.3, "text": " No, I mean, I keep." }, { "start": 5177.3, "end": 5178.9400000000005, "text": " On Nebraska's, obviously." }, { "start": 5178.9400000000005, "end": 5179.34, "text": " No." }, { "start": 5179.34, "end": 5180.06, "text": " I live in Nebraska." }, { "start": 5180.06, "end": 5180.740000000001, "text": " Sure, why not?" }, { "start": 5180.740000000001, "end": 5181.42, "text": " Who wouldn't?" }, { "start": 5181.42, "end": 5182.1, "text": " I don't." }, { "start": 5182.1, "end": 5190.34, "text": " Okay. Anyhow, go on." }, { "start": 5190.34, "end": 5194.34, "text": " What were you going to say?" }, { "start": 5194.34, "end": 5199.06, "text": " Velvet Underground's first album only sold a few thousand copies, but everyone who bought" }, { "start": 5199.06, "end": 5200.06, "text": " one formed a band." }, { "start": 5200.06, "end": 5201.06, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 5201.06, "end": 5202.06, "text": " And I, I can't, I don't, I wasn't around." }, { "start": 5202.06, "end": 5203.06, "text": " But you weren't around in 1968." }, { "start": 5203.06, "end": 5204.06, "text": " I think that quote has been repurposed about like the first Ramones album, the first Pistols" }, { "start": 5204.06, "end": 5205.06, "text": " album." }, { "start": 5205.06, "end": 5206.06, "text": " But what it meant for me." }, { "start": 5206.06, "end": 5207.06, "text": " No, the Ramones, hold on." }, { "start": 5207.06, "end": 5208.06, "text": " The Ramones formed in a cauldron of activity in the New York scene." }, { "start": 5208.06, "end": 5209.06, "text": " I mean, they were, they were certainly not." }, { "start": 5209.06, "end": 5210.06, "text": " They did not." }, { "start": 5210.06, "end": 5211.06, "text": " They created the London scene." }, { "start": 5211.06, "end": 5212.06, "text": " They did not." }, { "start": 5212.06, "end": 5213.06, "text": " They did not." }, { "start": 5213.06, "end": 5215.02, "text": " I mean, if you've read Please Kill Me, you would know, of course, that they were highly" }, { "start": 5215.02, "end": 5216.02, "text": " influential." }, { "start": 5216.02, "end": 5217.02, "text": " The Sex Pistols were huge posters." }, { "start": 5217.02, "end": 5218.02, "text": " We sound like old rockers right now." }, { "start": 5218.02, "end": 5219.02, "text": " We're huge posers." }, { "start": 5219.02, "end": 5220.02, "text": " Okay, anyhow." }, { "start": 5220.02, "end": 5221.02, "text": " What happened for me is-" }, { "start": 5221.02, "end": 5224.02, "text": " Have you seen a picture of Malcolm Mc, Steve Jones?" }, { "start": 5224.02, "end": 5226.34, "text": " Malcolm McLaren turned into like an old English grandma over time." }, { "start": 5226.34, "end": 5227.34, "text": " Yeah, sure." }, { "start": 5227.34, "end": 5229.14, "text": " But Steve Jones now looks completely insane." }, { "start": 5229.14, "end": 5230.14, "text": " Does he?" }, { "start": 5230.14, "end": 5231.14, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 5231.14, "end": 5232.14, "text": " I haven't seen a recent photo." }, { "start": 5232.14, "end": 5233.14, "text": " You going to pull it up?" }, { "start": 5233.14, "end": 5234.14, "text": " Okay, go ahead." }, { "start": 5234.14, "end": 5235.14, "text": " Paul?" }, { "start": 5235.14, "end": 5238.14, "text": " I grew up with pretty bad, you know, 90s alternative ska tastes." }, { "start": 5238.14, "end": 5241.14, "text": " Can you give us an example, specific example?" }, { "start": 5241.14, "end": 5243.38, "text": " Is it the New Jersey Orange County Supertones?" }, { "start": 5243.38, "end": 5244.38, "text": " No." }, { "start": 5244.38, "end": 5246.9400000000005, "text": " Can you name a band that I've actually heard of?" }, { "start": 5246.9400000000005, "end": 5247.9400000000005, "text": " Probably not." }, { "start": 5247.9400000000005, "end": 5248.9400000000005, "text": " MXPX?" }, { "start": 5248.9400000000005, "end": 5250.700000000001, "text": " Yeah, I've heard of them." }, { "start": 5250.700000000001, "end": 5252.900000000001, "text": " That's what I grew up in." }, { "start": 5252.900000000001, "end": 5256.1, "text": " And then, you know, early 2000s, I-" }, { "start": 5256.1, "end": 5257.54, "text": " You heard White Lie, White Heat." }, { "start": 5257.54, "end": 5258.54, "text": " I heard The Strokes." }, { "start": 5258.54, "end": 5259.54, "text": " Oh." }, { "start": 5259.54, "end": 5261.740000000001, "text": " And I was reading reviews of The Strokes." }, { "start": 5261.740000000001, "end": 5262.740000000001, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 5262.740000000001, "end": 5265.660000000001, "text": " And they kept on comparing them to the Velvet Underground and television." }, { "start": 5265.660000000001, "end": 5266.660000000001, "text": " And I never heard of either." }, { "start": 5266.660000000001, "end": 5267.660000000001, "text": " God, television's amazing." }, { "start": 5267.660000000001, "end": 5268.660000000001, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 5268.660000000001, "end": 5269.660000000001, "text": " And so I-" }, { "start": 5269.660000000001, "end": 5270.660000000001, "text": " Marquee Moon, unbelievable record." }, { "start": 5270.66, "end": 5275.66, "text": " I looked up Velvet Underground on Morpheus or whatever I was using to steal music at" }, { "start": 5275.66, "end": 5276.66, "text": " the time." }, { "start": 5276.66, "end": 5277.66, "text": " You called Morpheus and you were like, I need an operator." }, { "start": 5277.66, "end": 5278.66, "text": " No, because it was Napster and then it was-" }, { "start": 5278.66, "end": 5279.66, "text": " And Neo was like, Trinity, Morpheus." }, { "start": 5279.66, "end": 5280.66, "text": " Whoa." }, { "start": 5280.66, "end": 5281.66, "text": " Well, what did I just say?" }, { "start": 5281.66, "end": 5282.66, "text": " Anyhow, go ahead." }, { "start": 5282.66, "end": 5283.66, "text": " It was before Lye Wire, so I think it was Morpheus." }, { "start": 5283.66, "end": 5284.66, "text": " You're right, it was Morpheus." }, { "start": 5284.66, "end": 5285.66, "text": " And I started listening to Velvet Underground and they fundamentally changed-" }, { "start": 5285.66, "end": 5288.66, "text": " Can you give a sample of Keanu Reeves saying Morpheus?" }, { "start": 5288.66, "end": 5289.66, "text": " Changed my-" }, { "start": 5289.66, "end": 5290.66, "text": " Morpheus." }, { "start": 5290.66, "end": 5291.66, "text": " Morpheus." }, { "start": 5291.66, "end": 5292.66, "text": " Morpheus." }, { "start": 5292.66, "end": 5293.66, "text": " Morpheus." }, { "start": 5293.66, "end": 5294.66, "text": " Morpheus." }, { "start": 5294.66, "end": 5295.66, "text": " Morpheus." }, { "start": 5295.66, "end": 5296.66, "text": " Morpheus." }, { "start": 5296.66, "end": 5297.66, "text": " Morpheus." }, { "start": 5297.66, "end": 5298.66, "text": " Morpheus." }, { "start": 5298.66, "end": 5299.66, "text": " Morpheus." }, { "start": 5299.66, "end": 5300.66, "text": " And they changed my-" }, { "start": 5300.66, "end": 5301.66, "text": " Morpheus." }, { "start": 5301.66, "end": 5303.66, "text": " My taste in music." }, { "start": 5303.66, "end": 5304.66, "text": " It really-" }, { "start": 5304.66, "end": 5305.66, "text": " They changed your life." }, { "start": 5305.66, "end": 5307.66, "text": " They changed my life very much brought it-" }, { "start": 5307.66, "end": 5310.66, "text": " What was the first Velvet Underground song you heard, do you remember?" }, { "start": 5310.66, "end": 5315.139999999999, "text": " Well, the first one I remember being obsessed with and still am obsessed with is Heroine." }, { "start": 5315.139999999999, "end": 5317.46, "text": " I think that's just such an incredible song." }, { "start": 5317.46, "end": 5318.46, "text": " Oh God, that's terrible." }, { "start": 5318.46, "end": 5319.46, "text": " I thought it was a picture of-" }, { "start": 5319.46, "end": 5320.46, "text": " Yeah, it's a picture of Gene Jam." }, { "start": 5320.46, "end": 5321.46, "text": " Heroine is..." }, { "start": 5321.46, "end": 5322.46, "text": " Heroine is..." }, { "start": 5322.46, "end": 5327.46, "text": " You want to hear something really funny and also horrible and embarrassing." }, { "start": 5327.46, "end": 5328.46, "text": " Is it about Heroine?" }, { "start": 5328.46, "end": 5329.46, "text": " No, but yeah." }, { "start": 5329.46, "end": 5332.06, "text": " In 1993, Billy Idol released a record called Cyberpunch." }, { "start": 5332.06, "end": 5334.7, "text": " Oh God, worst record ever made." }, { "start": 5334.7, "end": 5336.58, "text": " Which had a cover of Heroine on it." }, { "start": 5336.58, "end": 5337.58, "text": " It did?" }, { "start": 5337.58, "end": 5339.46, "text": " Yeah, an insane cover of Heroine on it." }, { "start": 5339.46, "end": 5340.7, "text": " It's really bad." }, { "start": 5340.7, "end": 5346.66, "text": " And that was how I became aware of the Velvet Underground and Lou Reed." }, { "start": 5346.66, "end": 5348.66, "text": " Yeah, is through Billy Idol." }, { "start": 5348.66, "end": 5349.66, "text": " That's amazing." }, { "start": 5349.66, "end": 5350.66, "text": " Are you kidding me?" }, { "start": 5350.66, "end": 5353.02, "text": " I was in 93, I mean I was a little kid." }, { "start": 5353.02, "end": 5354.02, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 5354.02, "end": 5355.02, "text": " Yeah, no, because I'd never heard-" }, { "start": 5355.02, "end": 5356.02, "text": " How would you-" }, { "start": 5356.02, "end": 5357.78, "text": " My parents listen to Frank Sinatra." }, { "start": 5357.78, "end": 5360.3, "text": " My parents listened exclusively to Hindi film songs." }, { "start": 5360.3, "end": 5361.3, "text": " That's awesome." }, { "start": 5361.3, "end": 5362.3, "text": " I still got to Lou Reed." }, { "start": 5362.3, "end": 5363.3, "text": " What did you get?" }, { "start": 5363.3, "end": 5364.3, "text": " What was yours?" }, { "start": 5364.3, "end": 5367.46, "text": " How did you get to Lou Reed?" }, { "start": 5367.46, "end": 5371.259999999999, "text": " From The Clash to The Pistols to The Ramones to-" }, { "start": 5371.259999999999, "end": 5373.259999999999, "text": " You're on your way back to credibility." }, { "start": 5373.259999999999, "end": 5375.3, "text": " Well, no, I mean I was obsessed." }, { "start": 5375.3, "end": 5377.5, "text": " No, The Clash is okay, but then The Pistols is-" }, { "start": 5377.5, "end": 5382.3, "text": " And then there was a cover of Sweet Jane on a Buzzcocks live album that I had." }, { "start": 5382.3, "end": 5383.3, "text": " And then I hit the-" }, { "start": 5383.3, "end": 5384.3, "text": " You're like, what is this?" }, { "start": 5384.3, "end": 5385.3, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 5385.3, "end": 5386.3, "text": " Where did this come from?" }, { "start": 5386.3, "end": 5387.3, "text": " It's funny now-" }, { "start": 5387.3, "end": 5389.74, "text": " Everybody's first exposure is not Sweet Jane." }, { "start": 5389.74, "end": 5395.5, "text": " Well, what's funny is when you think about the opportunity that kids, that people have" }, { "start": 5395.5, "end": 5396.5, "text": " now-" }, { "start": 5396.5, "end": 5397.5, "text": " Guys, we sound so old." }, { "start": 5397.5, "end": 5398.5, "text": " I sound like I'm a billion years old." }, { "start": 5398.5, "end": 5402.66, "text": " No, but when you think about what it's like now versus what it was like 15 years ago," }, { "start": 5402.66, "end": 5405.62, "text": " 20 years ago, 10 years ago even in some- I mean you're talking about Morpheus-" }, { "start": 5405.62, "end": 5408.3, "text": " No, I had to dig through racks for some of this stuff." }, { "start": 5408.3, "end": 5412.1, "text": " And you had to dig through virtual racks, like Morpheus and LimeWire." }, { "start": 5412.1, "end": 5413.1, "text": " Right now-" }, { "start": 5413.1, "end": 5414.1, "text": " That shit was not readily accessible." }, { "start": 5414.1, "end": 5416.1, "text": " You had to go spelunking down to find it." }, { "start": 5416.1, "end": 5421.06, "text": " If I had audio now, I would have discovered this probably a lot quicker." }, { "start": 5421.06, "end": 5426.660000000001, "text": " That's why it's kind of scary, but also amazing to think about how kids are learning about" }, { "start": 5426.660000000001, "end": 5427.660000000001, "text": " music now." }, { "start": 5427.660000000001, "end": 5430.58, "text": " In fact, it was right around that time I got Rhapsody." }, { "start": 5430.58, "end": 5431.58, "text": " And Rhapsody had-" }, { "start": 5431.58, "end": 5432.58, "text": " I love Rhapsody." }, { "start": 5432.58, "end": 5433.58, "text": " Had a visual-" }, { "start": 5433.58, "end": 5437.38, "text": " How come Rhapsody's never hired you as a spokesperson?" }, { "start": 5437.38, "end": 5438.38, "text": " They still email me pictures." }, { "start": 5438.38, "end": 5441.700000000001, "text": " I'm just going to just throw that out there and say if they do make you that job offer," }, { "start": 5441.700000000001, "end": 5442.700000000001, "text": " you should not join that company." }, { "start": 5442.7, "end": 5447.139999999999, "text": " The last time I talked with Rhapsody PR on the phone, I was almost crying when I was" }, { "start": 5447.139999999999, "end": 5451.74, "text": " telling them about how bad their bit rate is on their mobile app." }, { "start": 5451.74, "end": 5452.98, "text": " I was like, I'm over you guys." }, { "start": 5452.98, "end": 5456.46, "text": " I've got Mog, I've got Rdio, I've got Spotify." }, { "start": 5456.46, "end": 5457.82, "text": " High quality playback, man." }, { "start": 5457.82, "end": 5460.32, "text": " That stuff sounds good." }, { "start": 5460.32, "end": 5464.66, "text": " But they had a way to backtrack, like this band was influenced by these bands." }, { "start": 5464.66, "end": 5466.98, "text": " And so I started doing that with all the bands I was interested in." }, { "start": 5466.98, "end": 5468.82, "text": " But it really started with Velvet Under the Roof." }, { "start": 5468.82, "end": 5473.259999999999, "text": " But I got to say, Lou Reed, when you listen to his stuff, Street Hassle's a great record," }, { "start": 5473.259999999999, "end": 5477.42, "text": " by the way, if you want, I think if you want the full Lou Reed experience." }, { "start": 5477.42, "end": 5478.42, "text": " Velvet Underground-" }, { "start": 5478.42, "end": 5479.42, "text": " Can you do the noise guitar stuff?" }, { "start": 5479.42, "end": 5480.42, "text": " Can you-" }, { "start": 5480.42, "end": 5481.42, "text": " Metal Machine Music?" }, { "start": 5481.42, "end": 5482.42, "text": " Can you sit through that?" }, { "start": 5482.42, "end": 5483.42, "text": " No." }, { "start": 5483.42, "end": 5487.759999999999, "text": " I mean, we did a playlist for the post about him dying and I put, I think it's the first" }, { "start": 5487.759999999999, "end": 5490.259999999999, "text": " track for Metal Machine Music as the last song." }, { "start": 5490.259999999999, "end": 5493.34, "text": " It's like 17 minutes long and it is insane." }, { "start": 5493.34, "end": 5495.139999999999, "text": " But did you read that interview?" }, { "start": 5495.139999999999, "end": 5497.74, "text": " There's a great interview from Spin." }, { "start": 5497.74, "end": 5501.5, "text": " It's a terrible interview, it's a recent interview, it's from a few years ago." }, { "start": 5501.5, "end": 5507.3, "text": " And he gets pretty mad at the interviewer, at the guy interviewing him." }, { "start": 5507.3, "end": 5511.94, "text": " But he talks about Metal Machine Music and he's like, I thought this was so cool, it's" }, { "start": 5511.94, "end": 5512.94, "text": " like pure guitar." }, { "start": 5512.94, "end": 5517.38, "text": " I thought this was so rock and roll and people didn't get it at all." }, { "start": 5517.38, "end": 5519.42, "text": " Have you read his review of Yeezus?" }, { "start": 5519.42, "end": 5520.42, "text": " Yeah, it's amazing." }, { "start": 5520.42, "end": 5521.42, "text": " It's amazing." }, { "start": 5521.42, "end": 5527.7, "text": " And he talks about making something abrasive like that, but you're not doing it right." }, { "start": 5527.7, "end": 5531.58, "text": " Making it to piss people off or be abrasive, it's truly what you think is interesting." }, { "start": 5531.58, "end": 5534.78, "text": " Yeah, I mean, and I think, but so on Street Hassle, I think if you listen to it, it's" }, { "start": 5534.78, "end": 5540.78, "text": " a really good, you get a really good sense of who Lou Reed was because you get a song" }, { "start": 5540.78, "end": 5546.9, "text": " like Street Hassle, which is this sort of orchestral long drug story." }, { "start": 5546.9, "end": 5551.5, "text": " And then there's, I Wanna Be Black is on that record, which is literally him saying about" }, { "start": 5551.5, "end": 5552.5, "text": " how he wants to be a black guy." }, { "start": 5552.5, "end": 5555.139999999999, "text": " And it's pretty much, it's really racist." }, { "start": 5555.139999999999, "end": 5557.62, "text": " It kind of sounds racist, but it's also like Lou Reed." }, { "start": 5557.62, "end": 5558.62, "text": " Here's the thing about Lou Reed." }, { "start": 5558.62, "end": 5561.54, "text": " You just imagine he's one of these guys, like I always think about Mick Jagger in this way." }, { "start": 5561.54, "end": 5562.54, "text": " He has to say whatever he wants." }, { "start": 5562.54, "end": 5566.34, "text": " Well, he gets to say whatever he wants because he's like probably done everything." }, { "start": 5566.34, "end": 5569.82, "text": " Like he's just been in every situation possible." }, { "start": 5569.82, "end": 5574.58, "text": " Imagine like whatever kind of weird like race situation he may have got, like he's some" }, { "start": 5574.58, "end": 5579.14, "text": " weird sex situation he got himself into, like a, just an uncomfortable conversation with" }, { "start": 5579.14, "end": 5580.14, "text": " somebody." }, { "start": 5580.14, "end": 5581.14, "text": " Like I have to imagine-" }, { "start": 5581.14, "end": 5582.14, "text": " Crocodile." }, { "start": 5582.14, "end": 5583.14, "text": " Yeah, crocodile." }, { "start": 5583.14, "end": 5589.9800000000005, "text": " Like Lou Reed and Mick Jagger have been in every possible permutation of a situation" }, { "start": 5589.9800000000005, "end": 5590.9800000000005, "text": " that could exist." }, { "start": 5590.9800000000005, "end": 5595.34, "text": " And so like they can basically say whatever because you've done it all." }, { "start": 5595.34, "end": 5600.1, "text": " Like you've been to the peaks and the valleys of all of existence." }, { "start": 5600.1, "end": 5601.740000000001, "text": " You've had every exchange possible." }, { "start": 5601.740000000001, "end": 5605.4400000000005, "text": " You've had every weird sexual encounter." }, { "start": 5605.4400000000005, "end": 5606.4400000000005, "text": " What's the story?" }, { "start": 5606.4400000000005, "end": 5607.780000000001, "text": " I think that's the one you keep coming back to." }, { "start": 5607.780000000001, "end": 5610.5, "text": " Well, no, because it's like, there's that story about how like David Bowie and Mick" }, { "start": 5610.5, "end": 5613.94, "text": " Jagger were found in bed by somebody's wife or whatever." }, { "start": 5613.94, "end": 5617.06, "text": " You know, Lou Reed is all about, he sings about like, it's like, you know, he's singing" }, { "start": 5617.06, "end": 5621.82, "text": " about like transvestites and being like gay and being straight and he's a heroin addict" }, { "start": 5621.82, "end": 5622.82, "text": " and he's cleaned up." }, { "start": 5622.82, "end": 5624.7, "text": " And it's like, it's just like you've been all over the place." }, { "start": 5624.7, "end": 5625.7, "text": " Like I don't know." }, { "start": 5625.7, "end": 5627.86, "text": " My life has been very boring by comparison." }, { "start": 5627.86, "end": 5629.44, "text": " My life has been very tame." }, { "start": 5629.44, "end": 5633.62, "text": " Like I've done very little, you know, I've never like found myself in a gutter with a" }, { "start": 5633.62, "end": 5636.58, "text": " needle hanging out of my arm going like, where am I?" }, { "start": 5636.58, "end": 5637.58, "text": " You're in like Berlin." }, { "start": 5637.58, "end": 5639.58, "text": " That's never happened to me." }, { "start": 5639.58, "end": 5640.9, "text": " Although we did go to Germany together." }, { "start": 5640.9, "end": 5642.7, "text": " Although we did go to Berlin that one time." }, { "start": 5642.7, "end": 5647.3, "text": " Paul and I, our first trip, we went to IFA together and I learned so much about Paul." }, { "start": 5647.3, "end": 5648.3, "text": " I learned so much about Josh." }, { "start": 5648.3, "end": 5651.46, "text": " That was like, by the way, I don't know if you remember this, but I'm just thinking about" }, { "start": 5651.46, "end": 5652.46, "text": " it." }, { "start": 5652.46, "end": 5654.22, "text": " That was like, I was like, let's shoot some video here." }, { "start": 5654.22, "end": 5655.22, "text": " Do you remember?" }, { "start": 5655.22, "end": 5658.38, "text": " And we were like, and we were like trying to do like an intro for a video and I was" }, { "start": 5658.38, "end": 5660.0599999999995, "text": " like, I look terrible." }, { "start": 5660.0599999999995, "end": 5661.0599999999995, "text": " This is horrible." }, { "start": 5661.0599999999995, "end": 5663.7, "text": " Josh was not secure in the configuration of his face." }, { "start": 5663.7, "end": 5664.7, "text": " I'm still not." }, { "start": 5664.7, "end": 5665.7, "text": " Like, look at this." }, { "start": 5665.7, "end": 5666.7, "text": " It's a, it's like a horn." }, { "start": 5666.7, "end": 5673.34, "text": " It was something like Samsung MP3 player." }, { "start": 5673.34, "end": 5674.34, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 5674.34, "end": 5676.34, "text": " We were like trying to do an intro for a Samsung MP3 player video." }, { "start": 5676.34, "end": 5677.34, "text": " Good." }, { "start": 5677.34, "end": 5679.42, "text": " I'm glad we threw our resources at that project." }, { "start": 5679.42, "end": 5680.42, "text": " There were no resources." }, { "start": 5680.42, "end": 5681.42, "text": " It was Paul." }, { "start": 5681.42, "end": 5683.7, "text": " It was Paul with like a whatever camcorder he owned." }, { "start": 5683.7, "end": 5686.42, "text": " That was back in the day when we had those exacties." }, { "start": 5686.42, "end": 5687.42, "text": " Oh man." }, { "start": 5687.42, "end": 5688.42, "text": " I started exacties." }, { "start": 5688.42, "end": 5693.099999999999, "text": " This is pre, this is like pre-Ricker exactie." }, { "start": 5693.099999999999, "end": 5696.5599999999995, "text": " Can we somehow stop saying things that make us seem old?" }, { "start": 5696.56, "end": 5698.780000000001, "text": " Just an idea that I'm having in my mind." }, { "start": 5698.780000000001, "end": 5702.820000000001, "text": " Look when I was coming up, we had exacties." }, { "start": 5702.820000000001, "end": 5704.3, "text": " We didn't have iPhones." }, { "start": 5704.3, "end": 5705.660000000001, "text": " You couldn't wifi your stuff." }, { "start": 5705.660000000001, "end": 5708.14, "text": " On this or to our second birthday." }, { "start": 5708.14, "end": 5709.14, "text": " You couldn't wifi." }, { "start": 5709.14, "end": 5710.14, "text": " None of the kids were air dropping." }, { "start": 5710.14, "end": 5712.9400000000005, "text": " No, but listen, but I, but anyhow." }, { "start": 5712.9400000000005, "end": 5713.9400000000005, "text": " All right." }, { "start": 5713.9400000000005, "end": 5715.620000000001, "text": " We should, we've got a 10 minutes left." }, { "start": 5715.620000000001, "end": 5717.14, "text": " We should talk about, we should talk about the future." }, { "start": 5717.14, "end": 5718.9400000000005, "text": " I saw Lou Reed live a couple of years ago." }, { "start": 5718.9400000000005, "end": 5719.9400000000005, "text": " Did you really?" }, { "start": 5719.9400000000005, "end": 5720.9400000000005, "text": " How was it?" }, { "start": 5720.9400000000005, "end": 5721.9400000000005, "text": " It was the Phil fast benefit concert." }, { "start": 5721.9400000000005, "end": 5722.9400000000005, "text": " I mean, whatever you want to do is fine with me." }, { "start": 5722.9400000000005, "end": 5723.9400000000005, "text": " That sounds amazing." }, { "start": 5723.9400000000005, "end": 5724.9400000000005, "text": " Lou Reed was pretty good." }, { "start": 5724.9400000000005, "end": 5725.9400000000005, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 5725.94, "end": 5726.94, "text": " I saw, I've seen, I saw." }, { "start": 5726.94, "end": 5729.46, "text": " He reads his lyrics off of a screen." }, { "start": 5729.46, "end": 5733.82, "text": " I saw Lou Reed several times at shows in New York." }, { "start": 5733.82, "end": 5735.9, "text": " Here's the thing about Lou Reed that was cool." }, { "start": 5735.9, "end": 5737.299999999999, "text": " I mean, he was, he died when he died." }, { "start": 5737.299999999999, "end": 5739.7, "text": " He died at 71." }, { "start": 5739.7, "end": 5745.54, "text": " Like for several years I have seen Lou Reed at really cool, I think really cool, weird" }, { "start": 5745.54, "end": 5747.0199999999995, "text": " shows in New York." }, { "start": 5747.0199999999995, "end": 5751.66, "text": " Like you know, in fact that interview in spin, he talks about like what's on his, his iPod." }, { "start": 5751.66, "end": 5757.74, "text": " It's like battles and holy fuck, like weird bands, like bands that are not mainstream" }, { "start": 5757.74, "end": 5759.78, "text": " in any way, shape or form." }, { "start": 5759.78, "end": 5760.78, "text": " That's a band by the way." }, { "start": 5760.78, "end": 5761.78, "text": " I wasn't just swearing for the sake of it." }, { "start": 5761.78, "end": 5762.78, "text": " I've heard of battles." }, { "start": 5762.78, "end": 5763.78, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 5763.78, "end": 5764.78, "text": " Battles." }, { "start": 5764.78, "end": 5770.0199999999995, "text": " Battles is, is fronted by, well it was fronted by Ian Williams." }, { "start": 5770.0199999999995, "end": 5771.0199999999995, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 5771.0199999999995, "end": 5774.28, "text": " Who my brother was in a band with called Don Caballero." }, { "start": 5774.28, "end": 5775.28, "text": " I didn't know there's a connection." }, { "start": 5775.28, "end": 5776.28, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 5776.28, "end": 5777.28, "text": " There's a connection." }, { "start": 5777.28, "end": 5778.28, "text": " Oh man." }, { "start": 5778.28, "end": 5779.28, "text": " Oh and Storm is Trash." }, { "start": 5779.28, "end": 5780.86, "text": " My nerdiest friends in college loved Don Caballero." }, { "start": 5780.86, "end": 5781.86, "text": " Yeah, Don Cab." }, { "start": 5781.86, "end": 5782.86, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 5782.86, "end": 5783.86, "text": " They were, they were." }, { "start": 5783.86, "end": 5784.86, "text": " Don Cab was awesome man." }, { "start": 5784.86, "end": 5785.86, "text": " In its day they were incredible." }, { "start": 5785.86, "end": 5786.86, "text": " Anyhow." }, { "start": 5786.86, "end": 5787.86, "text": " All right." }, { "start": 5787.86, "end": 5788.86, "text": " Moving along." }, { "start": 5788.86, "end": 5789.86, "text": " The future." }, { "start": 5789.86, "end": 5790.86, "text": " Please." }, { "start": 5790.86, "end": 5791.86, "text": " Let's talk about the future." }, { "start": 5791.86, "end": 5792.86, "text": " Or I mean if you want to talk about." }, { "start": 5792.86, "end": 5793.86, "text": " You don't want to keep going into this." }, { "start": 5793.86, "end": 5794.86, "text": " Mining the past." }, { "start": 5794.86, "end": 5795.86, "text": " You want to talk about Lou Reed." }, { "start": 5795.86, "end": 5796.86, "text": " I see you guys have bought into the smartwatch trend." }, { "start": 5796.86, "end": 5797.86, "text": " We love smartwatches right here." }, { "start": 5797.86, "end": 5798.86, "text": " Look at this." }, { "start": 5798.86, "end": 5799.86, "text": " Here in the future." }, { "start": 5799.86, "end": 5800.86, "text": " Look at this." }, { "start": 5800.86, "end": 5801.86, "text": " I can tell." }, { "start": 5801.86, "end": 5802.86, "text": " Hey what, what are, by the way." }, { "start": 5802.86, "end": 5803.86, "text": " I got the seconds, I got the seconds, I got the minutes." }, { "start": 5803.86, "end": 5804.86, "text": " Speaking of smartwatches, Wall Street Journal." }, { "start": 5804.86, "end": 5805.86, "text": " Google." }, { "start": 5805.86, "end": 5806.86, "text": " Was the Wall Street Journal a Jessica Lesson?" }, { "start": 5806.86, "end": 5807.86, "text": " Doesn't." }, { "start": 5807.86, "end": 5810.86, "text": " I don't know if you've decided Wall Street Journal or former Wall Street Journal reporter" }, { "start": 5810.86, "end": 5812.86, "text": " Jessica Lesson." }, { "start": 5812.86, "end": 5816.86, "text": " Reported this week Google Watch coming very soon." }, { "start": 5816.86, "end": 5817.86, "text": " Running Google Now." }, { "start": 5817.86, "end": 5818.86, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 5818.86, "end": 5821.86, "text": " Which I think I will say is the best idea for a smartwatch I've heard yet." }, { "start": 5821.86, "end": 5824.86, "text": " Because Google Now is the best ambient information service." }, { "start": 5824.86, "end": 5829.42, "text": " The only problem with that is that I cannot get Google Now to understand me or do anything" }, { "start": 5829.42, "end": 5831.0199999999995, "text": " ever relevant to me." }, { "start": 5831.0199999999995, "end": 5834.219999999999, "text": " But other people struggle with that." }, { "start": 5834.219999999999, "end": 5836.86, "text": " I don't know how you're expecting a computer to do it." }, { "start": 5836.86, "end": 5838.219999999999, "text": " Oh, understand him." }, { "start": 5838.219999999999, "end": 5839.219999999999, "text": " You're really mean." }, { "start": 5839.219999999999, "end": 5840.219999999999, "text": " You know that?" }, { "start": 5840.219999999999, "end": 5841.219999999999, "text": " You know what?" }, { "start": 5841.219999999999, "end": 5842.86, "text": " This guy came all the way to New York for us." }, { "start": 5842.86, "end": 5843.86, "text": " Here's the thing." }, { "start": 5843.86, "end": 5845.58, "text": " I'm going to, I'm going to, I go to Colorado." }, { "start": 5845.58, "end": 5846.58, "text": " I'm helping out children." }, { "start": 5846.58, "end": 5847.58, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 5847.58, "end": 5848.58, "text": " You know?" }, { "start": 5848.58, "end": 5849.58, "text": " He's taking them out." }, { "start": 5849.58, "end": 5850.58, "text": " And Google Now doesn't know what I'm up to." }, { "start": 5850.58, "end": 5851.58, "text": " They don't understand that." }, { "start": 5851.58, "end": 5852.58, "text": " Like I'm not, I'm not." }, { "start": 5852.58, "end": 5853.58, "text": " I'm sorry." }, { "start": 5853.58, "end": 5854.58, "text": " I'm taking them out." }, { "start": 5854.58, "end": 5855.58, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 5855.58, "end": 5860.36, "text": " I'm going to start taking care of them." }, { "start": 5860.36, "end": 5861.36, "text": " If I lived in San Francisco." }, { "start": 5861.36, "end": 5862.36, "text": " Yeah, yeah, yeah." }, { "start": 5862.36, "end": 5863.36, "text": " I get it." }, { "start": 5863.36, "end": 5865.38, "text": " And worked at a coffee shop or from a coffee shop." }, { "start": 5865.38, "end": 5866.38, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 5866.38, "end": 5870.42, "text": " But if I lived in San Francisco, then Google Now might understand me a little better." }, { "start": 5870.42, "end": 5873.42, "text": " You know, if I was one of these hipsters in San Francisco at a coffee shop." }, { "start": 5873.42, "end": 5874.42, "text": " Taking care of children." }, { "start": 5874.42, "end": 5875.42, "text": " Google Now would be like, hey, you know what?" }, { "start": 5875.42, "end": 5876.42, "text": " Let me tell you about Google Now." }, { "start": 5876.42, "end": 5877.900000000001, "text": " Paul, I'm not saying, look, here's what I'm saying." }, { "start": 5877.900000000001, "end": 5878.900000000001, "text": " Because developers don't have children." }, { "start": 5878.900000000001, "end": 5879.900000000001, "text": " I might struggle." }, { "start": 5879.900000000001, "end": 5880.900000000001, "text": " Let me tell you something." }, { "start": 5880.900000000001, "end": 5881.900000000001, "text": " I think other people might struggle." }, { "start": 5881.900000000001, "end": 5882.900000000001, "text": " That's the ultimate development." }, { "start": 5882.900000000001, "end": 5884.46, "text": " But you look happier than anybody that I know." }, { "start": 5884.46, "end": 5885.46, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 5885.46, "end": 5886.46, "text": " Well, he's lazy." }, { "start": 5886.46, "end": 5887.46, "text": " He's on easy streets." }, { "start": 5887.46, "end": 5888.46, "text": " It's a facade." }, { "start": 5888.46, "end": 5889.46, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 5889.46, "end": 5890.46, "text": " What's wrong?" }, { "start": 5890.46, "end": 5891.46, "text": " Tell us what's wrong." }, { "start": 5891.46, "end": 5892.46, "text": " I'm sad." }, { "start": 5892.46, "end": 5893.46, "text": " Are you sad?" }, { "start": 5893.46, "end": 5894.46, "text": " No." }, { "start": 5894.46, "end": 5895.46, "text": " Why?" }, { "start": 5895.46, "end": 5896.46, "text": " Because you're not happy with me." }, { "start": 5896.46, "end": 5897.46, "text": " Are you?" }, { "start": 5897.46, "end": 5898.46, "text": " What's going on?" }, { "start": 5898.46, "end": 5899.46, "text": " Let's take a side." }, { "start": 5899.46, "end": 5900.46, "text": " Let's take a little, let's take, go down a little side road." }, { "start": 5900.46, "end": 5901.46, "text": " I know you're not going to like this at all." }, { "start": 5901.46, "end": 5902.46, "text": " I love side roads." }, { "start": 5902.46, "end": 5903.46, "text": " What's going on with your love life?" }, { "start": 5903.46, "end": 5904.46, "text": " So single." }, { "start": 5904.46, "end": 5905.46, "text": " Wait." }, { "start": 5905.46, "end": 5906.46, "text": " You're sad because you don't like this." }, { "start": 5906.46, "end": 5907.46, "text": " Super single." }, { "start": 5907.46, "end": 5908.46, "text": " Come on, ladies." }, { "start": 5908.46, "end": 5909.46, "text": " We got all the whole package right here." }, { "start": 5909.46, "end": 5910.46, "text": " Come on, ladies." }, { "start": 5910.46, "end": 5911.46, "text": " Successful." }, { "start": 5911.46, "end": 5912.46, "text": " Although, and you know what?" }, { "start": 5912.46, "end": 5913.46, "text": " You know what?" }, { "start": 5913.46, "end": 5914.46, "text": " This is probably-" }, { "start": 5914.46, "end": 5915.46, "text": " Good looking." }, { "start": 5915.46, "end": 5916.46, "text": " Very good looking." }, { "start": 5916.46, "end": 5917.46, "text": " Kind of like a young Brad Pitt." }, { "start": 5917.46, "end": 5918.46, "text": " That's true." }, { "start": 5918.46, "end": 5919.46, "text": " Faithful." }, { "start": 5919.46, "end": 5920.46, "text": " Faithful on several levels." }, { "start": 5920.46, "end": 5921.46, "text": " It's true-voted." }, { "start": 5921.46, "end": 5922.46, "text": " Strong." }, { "start": 5922.46, "end": 5923.46, "text": " Good with kids." }, { "start": 5923.46, "end": 5925.46, "text": " Great with kids." }, { "start": 5925.46, "end": 5926.46, "text": " Strong convictions." }, { "start": 5926.46, "end": 5927.46, "text": " Amazing with kids." }, { "start": 5927.46, "end": 5931.46, "text": " If I were a lady out there on the scene-" }, { "start": 5931.46, "end": 5933.46, "text": " I feel like we've done this several times." }, { "start": 5933.46, "end": 5934.46, "text": " We have." }, { "start": 5934.46, "end": 5941.46, "text": " I want this to be the lightning rod which captures the electricity of Paul's future" }, { "start": 5941.46, "end": 5942.46, "text": " relationship." }, { "start": 5942.46, "end": 5943.46, "text": " Paul Miller is out there." }, { "start": 5943.46, "end": 5944.46, "text": " You want the credit." }, { "start": 5944.46, "end": 5945.46, "text": " That's the thing." }, { "start": 5945.46, "end": 5946.46, "text": " I wouldn't mind getting the credit." }, { "start": 5946.46, "end": 5950.46, "text": " What we're saying is the next time she falls asleep on the airplane, you should fall asleep." }, { "start": 5950.46, "end": 5951.46, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 5951.46, "end": 5952.46, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 5952.46, "end": 5953.46, "text": " And pretend to like cuddle her." }, { "start": 5953.46, "end": 5954.46, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 5954.46, "end": 5955.46, "text": " Oh, I'm sorry." }, { "start": 5955.46, "end": 5956.46, "text": " I'm sorry." }, { "start": 5956.46, "end": 5957.46, "text": " Exactly." }, { "start": 5957.46, "end": 5958.46, "text": " Oh, you're reading the same book as me." }, { "start": 5958.46, "end": 5959.46, "text": " Oh my God." }, { "start": 5959.46, "end": 5963.46, "text": " I didn't notice you were reading something really cool like Gilead Gibran's The Prophet." }, { "start": 5963.46, "end": 5964.94, "text": " Do you think Katniss dies at the end?" }, { "start": 5964.94, "end": 5965.94, "text": " You guys are both reading The Prophet." }, { "start": 5965.94, "end": 5966.94, "text": " Do you think Katniss dies at the end?" }, { "start": 5966.94, "end": 5967.94, "text": " No." }, { "start": 5967.94, "end": 5968.94, "text": " Hey, hey, hey." }, { "start": 5968.94, "end": 5969.94, "text": " I was just looking at my conversation starting." }, { "start": 5969.94, "end": 5970.94, "text": " Spoiler alert." }, { "start": 5970.94, "end": 5971.94, "text": " How was that question?" }, { "start": 5971.94, "end": 5972.94, "text": " I didn't spoil anything." }, { "start": 5972.94, "end": 5977.66, "text": " Well, I don't even consider that because I've only read the first book and seen the first" }, { "start": 5977.66, "end": 5978.66, "text": " movie." }, { "start": 5978.66, "end": 5979.66, "text": " Yeah, but everybody dies, Josh." }, { "start": 5979.66, "end": 5981.58, "text": " Well, I started reading the second book." }, { "start": 5981.58, "end": 5983.18, "text": " I started reading the second book and I was like-" }, { "start": 5983.18, "end": 5984.86, "text": " Do you think Joshua Topolsky dies in the end?" }, { "start": 5984.86, "end": 5985.86, "text": " I was like, no." }, { "start": 5985.86, "end": 5988.14, "text": " I was reading the second book and I was like, oh, wait a second." }, { "start": 5988.14, "end": 5989.14, "text": " This is not very good." }, { "start": 5989.14, "end": 5991.26, "text": " Do you think the last line of the series is we're not hungry anymore?" }, { "start": 5991.26, "end": 5992.26, "text": " He knows." }, { "start": 5992.26, "end": 5993.26, "text": " He's read it." }, { "start": 5993.26, "end": 5995.66, "text": " It's not a bunch of like hunger jokes." }, { "start": 5995.66, "end": 5996.66, "text": " Yeah, they're not hungry." }, { "start": 5996.66, "end": 5997.66, "text": " Oh." }, { "start": 5997.66, "end": 5998.66, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 5998.66, "end": 5999.66, "text": " That's not what it's about." }, { "start": 5999.66, "end": 6000.66, "text": " Why is it a joke?" }, { "start": 6000.66, "end": 6001.66, "text": " You need to read these books." }, { "start": 6001.66, "end": 6002.66, "text": " It's not like the seven dwarfs." }, { "start": 6002.66, "end": 6003.66, "text": " Why is it a joke?" }, { "start": 6003.66, "end": 6008.0599999999995, "text": " She's like, I killed her with my spear and then finally I had a steak to eat." }, { "start": 6008.0599999999995, "end": 6010.0599999999995, "text": " Well, there is some eating in it though." }, { "start": 6010.0599999999995, "end": 6011.0599999999995, "text": " You have to admit that." }, { "start": 6011.06, "end": 6012.06, "text": " They do eat." }, { "start": 6012.06, "end": 6013.06, "text": " And we all die." }, { "start": 6013.06, "end": 6014.06, "text": " And then we all die." }, { "start": 6014.06, "end": 6015.06, "text": " Maybe." }, { "start": 6015.06, "end": 6016.06, "text": " Eventually." }, { "start": 6016.06, "end": 6017.06, "text": " No, but aren't we all in a way-" }, { "start": 6017.06, "end": 6018.06, "text": " Except for Ray Kurzweil." }, { "start": 6018.06, "end": 6021.34, "text": " Aren't we all in a way then reborn?" }, { "start": 6021.34, "end": 6023.5, "text": " As other murderers." }, { "start": 6023.5, "end": 6025.18, "text": " Hold that thought." }, { "start": 6025.18, "end": 6026.18, "text": " He's good looking." }, { "start": 6026.18, "end": 6027.18, "text": " He's funny." }, { "start": 6027.18, "end": 6028.18, "text": " He's well read." }, { "start": 6028.18, "end": 6029.18, "text": " This is our worst show of all time." }, { "start": 6029.18, "end": 6030.18, "text": " No, this is a great- I think this is a great-" }, { "start": 6030.18, "end": 6034.34, "text": " Can we see what's going on on Twitter?" }, { "start": 6034.34, "end": 6036.120000000001, "text": " What's the temperature on this show?" }, { "start": 6036.120000000001, "end": 6037.620000000001, "text": " Let's take the temperature of Twitter right now." }, { "start": 6037.620000000001, "end": 6039.740000000001, "text": " I like you guys are going to your consoles." }, { "start": 6039.74, "end": 6045.9, "text": " What is this going to take for people to feel like I'm back all the time?" }, { "start": 6045.9, "end": 6046.9, "text": " People ask me-" }, { "start": 6046.9, "end": 6047.9, "text": " What's it going to take?" }, { "start": 6047.9, "end": 6048.9, "text": " What happened to Paul?" }, { "start": 6048.9, "end": 6049.9, "text": " Where's Paul?" }, { "start": 6049.9, "end": 6050.9, "text": " You'd have to be back." }, { "start": 6050.9, "end": 6051.9, "text": " I tweet a few times a week." }, { "start": 6051.9, "end": 6053.38, "text": " There's a lot of threads in the forums." }, { "start": 6053.38, "end": 6054.98, "text": " They're like, what happened to Paul?" }, { "start": 6054.98, "end": 6058.38, "text": " And then somebody's like, he's working on his book and he's living in Colorado." }, { "start": 6058.38, "end": 6061.5, "text": " And then there's always a few people that remind people and they're like, oh, sorry." }, { "start": 6061.5, "end": 6062.5, "text": " I'm about done." }, { "start": 6062.5, "end": 6063.5, "text": " Thank you for that." }, { "start": 6063.5, "end": 6064.5, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 6064.5, "end": 6065.5, "text": " I just feel like I've been trying to prove that I exist." }, { "start": 6065.5, "end": 6068.0599999999995, "text": " The whole year I was off the internet, I was trying to prove people I exist." }, { "start": 6068.0599999999995, "end": 6069.0599999999995, "text": " And it didn't work." }, { "start": 6069.06, "end": 6070.06, "text": " It didn't work." }, { "start": 6070.06, "end": 6071.06, "text": " It didn't work." }, { "start": 6071.06, "end": 6073.780000000001, "text": " Do we have a name for Paul fans?" }, { "start": 6073.780000000001, "end": 6076.820000000001, "text": " I know that Fallon fans are called foul pals." }, { "start": 6076.820000000001, "end": 6077.820000000001, "text": " Foul pals." }, { "start": 6077.820000000001, "end": 6078.820000000001, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 6078.820000000001, "end": 6081.820000000001, "text": " Do you have a name?" }, { "start": 6081.820000000001, "end": 6082.820000000001, "text": " No." }, { "start": 6082.820000000001, "end": 6083.820000000001, "text": " Paul bros." }, { "start": 6083.820000000001, "end": 6087.9800000000005, "text": " I thought there was Polygon." }, { "start": 6087.9800000000005, "end": 6088.9800000000005, "text": " That's not it." }, { "start": 6088.9800000000005, "end": 6089.9800000000005, "text": " That's not anything." }, { "start": 6089.9800000000005, "end": 6090.9800000000005, "text": " You just said a word." }, { "start": 6090.9800000000005, "end": 6091.9800000000005, "text": " It's a word." }, { "start": 6091.9800000000005, "end": 6092.9800000000005, "text": " It's just a word." }, { "start": 6092.9800000000005, "end": 6093.9800000000005, "text": " It's a website named after me." }, { "start": 6093.9800000000005, "end": 6096.02, "text": " What's our temperature here?" }, { "start": 6096.02, "end": 6097.02, "text": " Crazy." }, { "start": 6097.02, "end": 6098.42, "text": " What are people saying?" }, { "start": 6098.42, "end": 6100.18, "text": " This is by far the best worst one." }, { "start": 6100.18, "end": 6101.18, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 6101.18, "end": 6102.18, "text": " What else?" }, { "start": 6102.18, "end": 6103.18, "text": " I got to search for it again." }, { "start": 6103.18, "end": 6104.18, "text": " You know what?" }, { "start": 6104.18, "end": 6105.9800000000005, "text": " If you're watching the Vergecast right now, I want real time feedback on Twitter right" }, { "start": 6105.9800000000005, "end": 6106.9800000000005, "text": " this second." }, { "start": 6106.9800000000005, "end": 6108.9, "text": " People think it's awesome." }, { "start": 6108.9, "end": 6110.66, "text": " Somebody else is single." }, { "start": 6110.66, "end": 6113.34, "text": " Someone claims to be a developer with five kids and they take pictures." }, { "start": 6113.34, "end": 6116.9800000000005, "text": " Well they obviously don't work at Google." }, { "start": 6116.9800000000005, "end": 6117.9800000000005, "text": " I mean what?" }, { "start": 6117.9800000000005, "end": 6118.9800000000005, "text": " That's not funny." }, { "start": 6118.9800000000005, "end": 6119.9800000000005, "text": " Is that a laugh journal too, buddy?" }, { "start": 6119.9800000000005, "end": 6120.9800000000005, "text": " Yeah, dude." }, { "start": 6120.9800000000005, "end": 6124.62, "text": " You know, if I could eat anything at all right now, what would it be?" }, { "start": 6124.62, "end": 6126.9, "text": " I'm just trying to think because I feel very hungry." }, { "start": 6126.9, "end": 6128.7, "text": " Pizza cone?" }, { "start": 6128.7, "end": 6129.7, "text": " Oh yeah, that sounds good." }, { "start": 6129.7, "end": 6130.7, "text": " I mean I've never had one of those." }, { "start": 6130.7, "end": 6131.7, "text": " We've been talking about them for a long time." }, { "start": 6131.7, "end": 6132.7, "text": " I am really hungry." }, { "start": 6132.7, "end": 6137.0599999999995, "text": " I ordered lunch and then I sit down at lunch and I'm not hungry so I had it packed up to" }, { "start": 6137.0599999999995, "end": 6139.9, "text": " go and then an hour later I'm super hungry." }, { "start": 6139.9, "end": 6140.9, "text": " Classic." }, { "start": 6140.9, "end": 6141.9, "text": " Suicide meat dish." }, { "start": 6141.9, "end": 6142.9, "text": " Only in New York." }, { "start": 6142.9, "end": 6143.9, "text": " Only in New York, right Paul?" }, { "start": 6143.9, "end": 6144.9, "text": " Total." }, { "start": 6144.9, "end": 6145.9, "text": " Total." }, { "start": 6145.9, "end": 6146.9, "text": " Total." }, { "start": 6146.9, "end": 6147.9, "text": " Just kidding." }, { "start": 6147.9, "end": 6152.0599999999995, "text": " All right, what other topics do we have to cover?" }, { "start": 6152.0599999999995, "end": 6153.0599999999995, "text": " It's us." }, { "start": 6153.0599999999995, "end": 6156.78, "text": " We just have to talk about us, which I would say we've been doing a very good job of." }, { "start": 6156.78, "end": 6157.78, "text": " Let me tell you something." }, { "start": 6157.78, "end": 6158.78, "text": " When we started The Verge." }, { "start": 6158.78, "end": 6159.78, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 6159.78, "end": 6160.78, "text": " It's been two years, man." }, { "start": 6160.78, "end": 6161.78, "text": " It's been two years." }, { "start": 6161.78, "end": 6163.3, "text": " Well, it'll be officially two years tomorrow." }, { "start": 6163.3, "end": 6164.3, "text": " In several hours." }, { "start": 6164.3, "end": 6171.54, "text": " I know that two years ago on this day we were in full on panic mode and I was literally" }, { "start": 6171.54, "end": 6176.66, "text": " saying things to people like I'm pretty sure there's an email or a call at some point where" }, { "start": 6176.66, "end": 6180.3, "text": " I said to our court, at the time our staff was like 12 or something." }, { "start": 6180.3, "end": 6182.639999999999, "text": " I was like just get ready." }, { "start": 6182.639999999999, "end": 6183.639999999999, "text": " They're going to hate it." }, { "start": 6183.639999999999, "end": 6185.179999999999, "text": " You're going to get hate mail." }, { "start": 6185.18, "end": 6187.62, "text": " They're going to say it's the worst thing ever." }, { "start": 6187.62, "end": 6189.34, "text": " Because I'm always like kind of beat." }, { "start": 6189.34, "end": 6192.700000000001, "text": " I'm my own worst critic." }, { "start": 6192.700000000001, "end": 6195.02, "text": " I got to say it's pretty incredible." }, { "start": 6195.02, "end": 6196.02, "text": " First off, it's great Paul." }, { "start": 6196.02, "end": 6197.46, "text": " Seriously, it's great to have you back." }, { "start": 6197.46, "end": 6198.58, "text": " I'm psyched that you're back in New York." }, { "start": 6198.58, "end": 6200.26, "text": " I didn't actually know that." }, { "start": 6200.26, "end": 6204.3, "text": " To be totally serious for a moment, it's awesome that you're back and I hope that we see more" }, { "start": 6204.3, "end": 6208.62, "text": " of you and I hope that these guys see more of you in the near future because you're a" }, { "start": 6208.62, "end": 6212.42, "text": " wonderful man and we love you." }, { "start": 6212.42, "end": 6218.74, "text": " But you know two years ago we launched The Verge and it seemed like, I mean people were," }, { "start": 6218.74, "end": 6221.02, "text": " they said things like why would anybody do that?" }, { "start": 6221.02, "end": 6223.74, "text": " People were like why would anybody launch a site like that?" }, { "start": 6223.74, "end": 6227.54, "text": " Why would you want to, we got Wired, we got Gizmodo, we got Engadget." }, { "start": 6227.54, "end": 6229.66, "text": " Who needs The Verge or whatever?" }, { "start": 6229.66, "end": 6233.5, "text": " And two things I think have happened over this period of time." }, { "start": 6233.5, "end": 6237.64, "text": " One like the question to why would anybody do it, I think has been answered." }, { "start": 6237.64, "end": 6238.64, "text": " We answered it." }, { "start": 6238.64, "end": 6242.14, "text": " I think we know why somebody would do it because you can make something different and better" }, { "start": 6242.14, "end": 6245.38, "text": " and strange and that isn't like the other stuff." }, { "start": 6245.38, "end": 6248.38, "text": " And the other thing that's been answered is that like we've just started, you know Matt" }, { "start": 6248.38, "end": 6251.9400000000005, "text": " Buchanan, you actually sent an email about this today." }, { "start": 6251.9400000000005, "end": 6254.3, "text": " Matt Buchanan wrote this great piece in the New Yorker." }, { "start": 6254.3, "end": 6255.700000000001, "text": " Is this the site originally?" }, { "start": 6255.700000000001, "end": 6257.26, "text": " Yeah, that's the first day." }, { "start": 6257.26, "end": 6258.26, "text": " Where are our ads?" }, { "start": 6258.26, "end": 6259.26, "text": " There's no ads on it." }, { "start": 6259.26, "end": 6260.26, "text": " We couldn't even get advertisers." }, { "start": 6260.26, "end": 6261.26, "text": " No money." }, { "start": 6261.26, "end": 6262.26, "text": " Nobody believed in us." }, { "start": 6262.26, "end": 6263.26, "text": " God, look at this." }, { "start": 6263.26, "end": 6264.26, "text": " So sad looking." }, { "start": 6264.26, "end": 6265.26, "text": " It looks pretty similar." }, { "start": 6265.26, "end": 6267.56, "text": " We haven't used that, the big five in a long time." }, { "start": 6267.56, "end": 6269.34, "text": " We haven't done five up in a long time." }, { "start": 6269.34, "end": 6277.22, "text": " But Matt Buchanan wrote this great piece about Mossberg and Pogue and sort of the next generation" }, { "start": 6277.22, "end": 6279.3, "text": " of technology writers." }, { "start": 6279.3, "end": 6282, "text": " And it was like, you know what, it's not about like this nuts and bolts stuff." }, { "start": 6282, "end": 6285, "text": " It's about how we live with this stuff and how we use it." }, { "start": 6285, "end": 6289.56, "text": " And I have to say, you know, he mentions us which is very nice but it does capture this" }, { "start": 6289.56, "end": 6295.42, "text": " whole idea that we had when we started working on this which was can we write about more" }, { "start": 6295.42, "end": 6299.46, "text": " than just cool gadgets or awesome futuristic things." }, { "start": 6299.46, "end": 6303.96, "text": " Like can we write about the way we live with this stuff and how we use it and why and how" }, { "start": 6303.96, "end": 6310.84, "text": " it affects our lives and, you know, the culture that has been created because of it." }, { "start": 6310.84, "end": 6314.6, "text": " And that stuff has become increasingly part of everything that everybody talks about." }, { "start": 6314.6, "end": 6318.96, "text": " It's really weird to have seen and for us to have felt where like, okay, we have to" }, { "start": 6318.96, "end": 6323.58, "text": " go here because it's part of this big circle of things." }, { "start": 6323.58, "end": 6326.96, "text": " It's funny because I joked on Twitter today." }, { "start": 6326.96, "end": 6333.88, "text": " It's like right now I think of our president's legacy is the NSA, a broken healthcare website." }, { "start": 6333.88, "end": 6334.88, "text": " Oh, Obama." }, { "start": 6334.88, "end": 6335.88, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 6335.88, "end": 6339.92, "text": " And letting me use gadgets on airplanes." }, { "start": 6339.92, "end": 6340.92, "text": " And those are all technology stories." }, { "start": 6340.92, "end": 6341.92, "text": " Well, those are our stories." }, { "start": 6341.92, "end": 6344.36, "text": " I mean, there's also, I mean, obviously a lot of other stories." }, { "start": 6344.36, "end": 6349.16, "text": " Those are like if you look at what like political news is in this country today, those are the" }, { "start": 6349.16, "end": 6350.16, "text": " stories." }, { "start": 6350.16, "end": 6355.72, "text": " And it is very much tied up in how we live and in the technology we use and how we use" }, { "start": 6355.72, "end": 6356.72, "text": " it to live." }, { "start": 6356.72, "end": 6357.72, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 6357.72, "end": 6361.5599999999995, "text": " Well, one thing though I will say though, so we had the idea of what we thought was" }, { "start": 6361.5599999999995, "end": 6365.5, "text": " the right tech website and then we built it and it turned out to be right." }, { "start": 6365.5, "end": 6366.5, "text": " And that was awesome." }, { "start": 6366.5, "end": 6368.76, "text": " I would say it turned out to be like 80% right." }, { "start": 6368.76, "end": 6372.44, "text": " I actually think it turned out to be, I think we had notions." }, { "start": 6372.44, "end": 6373.44, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 6373.44, "end": 6374.44, "text": " Of where it would go." }, { "start": 6374.44, "end": 6375.639999999999, "text": " A lot of those notions were right." }, { "start": 6375.639999999999, "end": 6379.84, "text": " But like when you started, as we have grown and you start to get more specific, we turn" }, { "start": 6379.84, "end": 6383.52, "text": " those notions into like justifiable, certifiable things." }, { "start": 6383.52, "end": 6389.84, "text": " And that's what I want to say, like, you know, I was working, we launched and then six months" }, { "start": 6389.84, "end": 6390.84, "text": " later I left the internet." }, { "start": 6390.84, "end": 6391.84, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 6391.84, "end": 6392.84, "text": " I went, I didn't like-" }, { "start": 6392.84, "end": 6393.84, "text": " That was great." }, { "start": 6393.84, "end": 6397.08, "text": " Paul had so many good ideas like by the way, I'm out of here." }, { "start": 6397.08, "end": 6401.12, "text": " And now I've been, you know, living in Colorado, I'm not working at the verge right now." }, { "start": 6401.12, "end": 6406.72, "text": " And I read the verge and I see things go up on the verge." }, { "start": 6406.72, "end": 6411.68, "text": " And I remember how hard it was to make those things when I was involved with making it." }, { "start": 6411.68, "end": 6414.360000000001, "text": " And there's enough of them that go up every day on the verge." }, { "start": 6414.360000000001, "end": 6416.68, "text": " I'm like, who has the time?" }, { "start": 6416.68, "end": 6417.68, "text": " So I just think there's like-" }, { "start": 6417.68, "end": 6418.68, "text": " I like it." }, { "start": 6418.68, "end": 6419.68, "text": " You're like a complaining old man." }, { "start": 6419.68, "end": 6426.62, "text": " It's like, it's one thing to have a good idea, but to like, I just want to say like to everybody" }, { "start": 6426.62, "end": 6434.400000000001, "text": " who has worked at the verge, like I, you know, I read this site and I know how hard it is" }, { "start": 6434.4, "end": 6439.5199999999995, "text": " to do all of the things, to make all of those words go down inside of your computer and" }, { "start": 6439.5199999999995, "end": 6444.36, "text": " to photos and the layouts and you know, the site stays up during live." }, { "start": 6444.36, "end": 6450.12, "text": " Like there are so many crazy things that people work so hard at and they go on the verge all" }, { "start": 6450.12, "end": 6451.12, "text": " the time." }, { "start": 6451.12, "end": 6455.12, "text": " And so it was a good idea, but the fact that it continues to be executed in just better" }, { "start": 6455.12, "end": 6458, "text": " and better ways more and more is just so awesome." }, { "start": 6458, "end": 6460, "text": " Thanks for saying that, Paul." }, { "start": 6460, "end": 6461, "text": " I mean, but you know-" }, { "start": 6461, "end": 6463.719999999999, "text": " Good job on that, that burn pit layout, Josh." }, { "start": 6463.72, "end": 6464.72, "text": " He did it himself." }, { "start": 6464.72, "end": 6465.72, "text": " Hand coded by Jay Tom." }, { "start": 6465.72, "end": 6466.72, "text": " Love all night." }, { "start": 6466.72, "end": 6467.72, "text": " How do I get this animation?" }, { "start": 6467.72, "end": 6472.280000000001, "text": " And we're only going to, we have a little thing." }, { "start": 6472.280000000001, "end": 6474.68, "text": " We're only going to get bigger and crazier in the next-" }, { "start": 6474.68, "end": 6475.68, "text": " Whoa." }, { "start": 6475.68, "end": 6479.360000000001, "text": " But I will say this, on all of this stuff, you know, and I don't want to like make this" }, { "start": 6479.360000000001, "end": 6481.76, "text": " a thing where we talk about ourselves because that's not what we do." }, { "start": 6481.76, "end": 6487, "text": " Like I will say this, you know, we wanted to make something cool that we loved for us" }, { "start": 6487, "end": 6489.4400000000005, "text": " and did the things that we thought would be great and interesting." }, { "start": 6489.4400000000005, "end": 6492.320000000001, "text": " And I think that we've done that and we continue to do that." }, { "start": 6492.32, "end": 6497.4, "text": " The fact that other people like it and love it and get mad when we change things or do" }, { "start": 6497.4, "end": 6504.08, "text": " new things because they want to make sure we protect what the verge is, is extremely" }, { "start": 6504.08, "end": 6509, "text": " meaningful, you know, like really, really monumental to me." }, { "start": 6509, "end": 6512.2, "text": " And without being like super serious, like we're a website on the internet." }, { "start": 6512.2, "end": 6514.86, "text": " We cover news and sometimes it's really important." }, { "start": 6514.86, "end": 6517.28, "text": " Sometimes it's just kind of cool or fun or whatever." }, { "start": 6517.28, "end": 6523.32, "text": " But to everybody here, to me and to you guys and to all the people in this room and who" }, { "start": 6523.32, "end": 6528.48, "text": " work on the verge and to everybody upstairs, you know, it has been like an investment in" }, { "start": 6528.48, "end": 6535.36, "text": " years of our lives to make something that is lasting and it seems to be working and" }, { "start": 6535.36, "end": 6537.32, "text": " that's like a huge deal." }, { "start": 6537.32, "end": 6542.8, "text": " And I hope that we, you know, continue to do that and to continue to provide, to build" }, { "start": 6542.8, "end": 6547.6, "text": " something and to make something that is, that people love and that people want to read and" }, { "start": 6547.6, "end": 6549.6, "text": " that people find value in, you know." }, { "start": 6549.6, "end": 6552.360000000001, "text": " And at the end of the day, the thing that, and we say this all the time, but the thing" }, { "start": 6552.360000000001, "end": 6558, "text": " that we make is not for, it's not just for like an audience, it's for ourselves." }, { "start": 6558, "end": 6561, "text": " And so we keep kind of challenging ourselves to make something good and that we really" }, { "start": 6561, "end": 6568.6, "text": " love and feel is worthy of, you know, your time." }, { "start": 6568.6, "end": 6569.9400000000005, "text": " Of you, the people." }, { "start": 6569.9400000000005, "end": 6570.9400000000005, "text": " Of you, the people." }, { "start": 6570.9400000000005, "end": 6571.9400000000005, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 6571.94, "end": 6577.24, "text": " And so with that said, I'm very excited and to everybody at the verge, to the team that" }, { "start": 6577.24, "end": 6582.12, "text": " is here, to people who have been here and have gone, like, you know, we, this is a team" }, { "start": 6582.12, "end": 6586.96, "text": " effort 100% like has been, I'm getting a little choked up actually." }, { "start": 6586.96, "end": 6587.96, "text": " The three whiskeys." }, { "start": 6587.96, "end": 6588.96, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 6588.96, "end": 6593.24, "text": " No, but it has been a total team effort and something that like when we did it, when we" }, { "start": 6593.24, "end": 6595.32, "text": " started it, there are people, let's put it this way." }, { "start": 6595.32, "end": 6603.58, "text": " There are people who were with us early on when, before we started and we're like, we're" }, { "start": 6603.58, "end": 6606.4, "text": " doing this and like, you're crazy." }, { "start": 6606.4, "end": 6607.799999999999, "text": " That's not going to work." }, { "start": 6607.799999999999, "end": 6610.74, "text": " And we went and did it anyhow and it worked." }, { "start": 6610.74, "end": 6613.599999999999, "text": " And it is not only working, but it is thriving." }, { "start": 6613.599999999999, "end": 6615.599999999999, "text": " So screw you naysayers." }, { "start": 6615.599999999999, "end": 6620.9, "text": " Yeah, it is thriving as part of, and I have to say like as part of a company that is building" }, { "start": 6620.9, "end": 6624.32, "text": " a bunch of other stuff that's really great and really inspiring." }, { "start": 6624.32, "end": 6629.799999999999, "text": " And you know, when I look at like what we've done, you know, when we came to, at the time" }, { "start": 6629.799999999999, "end": 6633.04, "text": " it was SB Nation, they were a sports site and people were like, what are you doing at" }, { "start": 6633.04, "end": 6634.04, "text": " a sports site?" }, { "start": 6634.04, "end": 6637.4, "text": " And it became Vox and Vox has become all of these brands now." }, { "start": 6637.4, "end": 6641.5599999999995, "text": " It's Polygon, it's The Verge, SB Nation, all of the blogs under SB Nation." }, { "start": 6641.5599999999995, "end": 6645.799999999999, "text": " And you know, I think in the future you'll see that there are new, there are new things." }, { "start": 6645.799999999999, "end": 6649.4, "text": " And it is pretty incredible to be part of it and to have, to see it work." }, { "start": 6649.4, "end": 6651.679999999999, "text": " Josh's male grooming site." }, { "start": 6651.68, "end": 6655, "text": " My male grooming site, Josh, Josh's hair.net." }, { "start": 6655, "end": 6656, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 6656, "end": 6657.8, "text": " Where I'm finally going to solve the mystery of." }, { "start": 6657.8, "end": 6658.8, "text": " Josh chops." }, { "start": 6658.8, "end": 6661.96, "text": " I'm surviving to solve the mystery of whatever is going on in this region of my hair." }, { "start": 6661.96, "end": 6662.96, "text": " Oh my God." }, { "start": 6662.96, "end": 6663.96, "text": " If I can just solve this." }, { "start": 6663.96, "end": 6667.12, "text": " If we actually end this Vergecast with an appropriate callback, I'll be so proud of" }, { "start": 6667.12, "end": 6668.12, "text": " us." }, { "start": 6668.12, "end": 6669.12, "text": " Solve." }, { "start": 6669.12, "end": 6670.12, "text": " It's only taking us 100 episodes." }, { "start": 6670.12, "end": 6673.08, "text": " I'm doing this, I didn't solve for ax, but the ax is just this region of my hair." }, { "start": 6673.08, "end": 6674.4400000000005, "text": " Can I say something about my hair?" }, { "start": 6674.4400000000005, "end": 6675.4400000000005, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 6675.4400000000005, "end": 6676.4400000000005, "text": " No." }, { "start": 6676.4400000000005, "end": 6678.240000000001, "text": " I got this haircut and you guys didn't make fun of me for it." }, { "start": 6678.240000000001, "end": 6680.240000000001, "text": " No, we said you look amazing." }, { "start": 6680.24, "end": 6681.96, "text": " No, thank you." }, { "start": 6681.96, "end": 6682.96, "text": " It's awesome." }, { "start": 6682.96, "end": 6683.96, "text": " We complimented you." }, { "start": 6683.96, "end": 6686.599999999999, "text": " Hold on, wait, wait, wait." }, { "start": 6686.599999999999, "end": 6687.599999999999, "text": " Before we run that in Paul, your hair is great." }, { "start": 6687.599999999999, "end": 6688.599999999999, "text": " There's two things to run." }, { "start": 6688.599999999999, "end": 6690.88, "text": " I just want to say, all right, chill out." }, { "start": 6690.88, "end": 6692.88, "text": " It's just like, it was my one goal in life." }, { "start": 6692.88, "end": 6693.88, "text": " Chill out, ghost voice." }, { "start": 6693.88, "end": 6695.96, "text": " I want to say, yeah, chill out, voice." }, { "start": 6695.96, "end": 6696.96, "text": " No one can hear XIV." }, { "start": 6696.96, "end": 6704.92, "text": " I want to say one other thing as an, as a, as a, as a, uh, important connective piece" }, { "start": 6704.92, "end": 6707.719999999999, "text": " to what I just said about like this team who built this thing." }, { "start": 6707.719999999999, "end": 6708.719999999999, "text": " And your hair." }, { "start": 6708.72, "end": 6710.360000000001, "text": " My hair, which is a mess." }, { "start": 6710.360000000001, "end": 6712.8, "text": " Uh, we couldn't have done any of this." }, { "start": 6712.8, "end": 6715.08, "text": " We would not be here talking about it." }, { "start": 6715.08, "end": 6719.400000000001, "text": " Nobody, it wouldn't matter at all without people who have supported us from like when" }, { "start": 6719.400000000001, "end": 6722.2, "text": " we did, this is my next before the verge existed." }, { "start": 6722.2, "end": 6726.3, "text": " And then we did, when we started the verge, who's kept reading and have, we've grown," }, { "start": 6726.3, "end": 6730.9400000000005, "text": " I mean, our audience size has grown so much over the last two years." }, { "start": 6730.9400000000005, "end": 6731.9400000000005, "text": " It's nuts." }, { "start": 6731.9400000000005, "end": 6735.4800000000005, "text": " But like, you know, we've just kept doing the things we thought were good and we, that" }, { "start": 6735.4800000000005, "end": 6737.900000000001, "text": " we liked and that we thought would be interesting to read." }, { "start": 6737.9, "end": 6742.96, "text": " It is the audience that has kept this started here and kept coming back who, who has made" }, { "start": 6742.96, "end": 6744.4, "text": " it possible to do so." }, { "start": 6744.4, "end": 6745.96, "text": " I would just say like, thank you." }, { "start": 6745.96, "end": 6746.96, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 6746.96, "end": 6750.04, "text": " Whoever you are, you millions and millions of insane lunatics." }, { "start": 6750.04, "end": 6753.48, "text": " I'd like to personally thank the Microsoft tribe and the Android army." }, { "start": 6753.48, "end": 6754.48, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 6754.48, "end": 6755.48, "text": " Because I feel worried faction." }, { "start": 6755.48, "end": 6756.48, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 6756.48, "end": 6761.36, "text": " I know in particular, I feel, uh, I feel in danger for my life every day, but also very" }, { "start": 6761.36, "end": 6762.36, "text": " safe." }, { "start": 6762.36, "end": 6763.36, "text": " It's weird." }, { "start": 6763.36, "end": 6764.36, "text": " It's a strange feeling." }, { "start": 6764.36, "end": 6766.32, "text": " Those are the guys like people who get mad at us for doing this stuff." }, { "start": 6766.32, "end": 6768.54, "text": " I'm like, you care enough to get mad." }, { "start": 6768.54, "end": 6769.54, "text": " That's amazing." }, { "start": 6769.54, "end": 6773.759999999999, "text": " But millions of people have, have, have, and will apparently continue to read the site." }, { "start": 6773.759999999999, "end": 6774.759999999999, "text": " And that's incredible." }, { "start": 6774.759999999999, "end": 6775.759999999999, "text": " So thank you." }, { "start": 6775.759999999999, "end": 6777.599999999999, "text": " It is kind of crazy that we named it Microsoft tribe and Android army because when you, when" }, { "start": 6777.599999999999, "end": 6780.48, "text": " you really come back to it, they called it microservice, but they didn't like that." }, { "start": 6780.48, "end": 6783.96, "text": " Which was a great, it was a Douglas Copeland reference." }, { "start": 6783.96, "end": 6784.96, "text": " They didn't like that either." }, { "start": 6784.96, "end": 6786.28, "text": " And by the way, that book is amazing." }, { "start": 6786.28, "end": 6787.28, "text": " We actually changed it." }, { "start": 6787.28, "end": 6788.28, "text": " It's Googleplex now." }, { "start": 6788.28, "end": 6789.28, "text": " It's Googleplex." }, { "start": 6789.28, "end": 6790.28, "text": " We keep changing your names." }, { "start": 6790.28, "end": 6791.28, "text": " Pretty soon." }, { "start": 6791.28, "end": 6794.44, "text": " Pretty soon we're going to change the Apple, uh, people without a nation, people, nation" }, { "start": 6794.44, "end": 6795.44, "text": " without a state." }, { "start": 6795.44, "end": 6796.44, "text": " We're not going to do that." }, { "start": 6796.44, "end": 6797.44, "text": " Anyhow." }, { "start": 6797.44, "end": 6800.5199999999995, "text": " I was just saying, all right, there's a lot coming next year." }, { "start": 6800.5199999999995, "end": 6801.5199999999995, "text": " There's a surprise." }, { "start": 6801.5199999999995, "end": 6802.5199999999995, "text": " You might be surprised." }, { "start": 6802.5199999999995, "end": 6804.04, "text": " No, we're not just quitting today." }, { "start": 6804.04, "end": 6805.04, "text": " Phantom voice in my ear." }, { "start": 6805.04, "end": 6806.04, "text": " What is, what are we going to show people?" }, { "start": 6806.04, "end": 6811.719999999999, "text": " Okay guys, here is, here is a taste of the verge." }, { "start": 6811.719999999999, "end": 6812.719999999999, "text": " Enjoy." }, { "start": 6812.719999999999, "end": 6813.719999999999, "text": " It's sweet." }, { "start": 6813.719999999999, "end": 6818.12, "text": " I did not think anybody would see that video." }, { "start": 6818.12, "end": 6825.96, "text": " I put it on YouTube and it got like so many hits." }, { "start": 6825.96, "end": 6831.84, "text": " When you dream about a future that you can enable with science and technology, then an" }, { "start": 6831.84, "end": 6842.32, "text": " innovation culture takes root in your nation." }, { "start": 6842.32, "end": 6843.76, "text": " You get one shot." }, { "start": 6843.76, "end": 6847.04, "text": " If you go to air and it's not right or there's a mistake." }, { "start": 6847.04, "end": 6852.64, "text": " You're sitting right up right track." }, { "start": 6852.64, "end": 6857.84, "text": " In the NBA draft, the Orlando magic select Victor Oladiko." }, { "start": 6857.84, "end": 6858.84, "text": " The verge is awesome." }, { "start": 6858.84, "end": 6859.84, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 6859.84, "end": 6864.8, "text": " It will blow your freaking mind out through the back of your head and your mind will go" }, { "start": 6864.8, "end": 6870.84, "text": " flying into a wall and that wall will explode and the explosion of the wall will rain down" }, { "start": 6870.84, "end": 6873.28, "text": " glitter on everybody on the street beneath you." }, { "start": 6873.28, "end": 6876.92, "text": " They'll look up at the sky with tears in their eyes and they're going to say, what's happening" }, { "start": 6876.92, "end": 6877.92, "text": " to the world?" }, { "start": 6877.92, "end": 6878.92, "text": " Shout." }, { "start": 6878.92, "end": 6888.16, "text": " It's the verge." }, { "start": 6888.16, "end": 6890.4800000000005, "text": " Whatever that is, I want, Oh my God in heaven." }, { "start": 6890.4800000000005, "end": 6891.4800000000005, "text": " What's happening?" }, { "start": 6891.4800000000005, "end": 6892.4800000000005, "text": " Whoa." }, { "start": 6892.4800000000005, "end": 6896.08, "text": " We're like, look how slick our shit is." }, { "start": 6896.08, "end": 6897.88, "text": " And then boom, we screwed it up." }, { "start": 6897.88, "end": 6901.12, "text": " Paul, by the way, Paul had to leave." }, { "start": 6901.12, "end": 6905.12, "text": " He was like, I've got, he's like, I've got to go to the bathroom so bad." }, { "start": 6905.12, "end": 6907.08, "text": " He just bolted." }, { "start": 6907.08, "end": 6911.92, "text": " Anyhow I think it's a fitting, by the way, I think very fitting to end our show on this" }, { "start": 6911.92, "end": 6912.92, "text": " note." }, { "start": 6912.92, "end": 6916.48, "text": " Paul has gone again, but you know, not forgotten." }, { "start": 6916.48, "end": 6917.48, "text": " And we're not joking." }, { "start": 6917.48, "end": 6918.48, "text": " He's not coming back." }, { "start": 6918.48, "end": 6919.48, "text": " He's not coming back." }, { "start": 6919.48, "end": 6920.48, "text": " No tricks." }, { "start": 6920.48, "end": 6923.68, "text": " This is not an illusion." }, { "start": 6923.68, "end": 6924.68, "text": " He actually left." }, { "start": 6924.68, "end": 6928.84, "text": " He was having an intense feeling of pressure in his bladder." }, { "start": 6928.84, "end": 6931.64, "text": " It had to relieve it." }, { "start": 6931.64, "end": 6933.08, "text": " Anyhow, that is the verge cast." }, { "start": 6933.08, "end": 6934.599999999999, "text": " That is the 100th verge cast." }, { "start": 6934.6, "end": 6935.6, "text": " I'm so sorry." }, { "start": 6935.6, "end": 6937.120000000001, "text": " Yeah, we're so, we really do apologize." }, { "start": 6937.120000000001, "end": 6938.120000000001, "text": " What?" }, { "start": 6938.120000000001, "end": 6939.120000000001, "text": " I don't know what happened there." }, { "start": 6939.120000000001, "end": 6941.92, "text": " It seems like we built such a great product and then, and then we do this every week." }, { "start": 6941.92, "end": 6944, "text": " This is why are we doing this to people?" }, { "start": 6944, "end": 6945, "text": " I don't understand it." }, { "start": 6945, "end": 6946, "text": " You don't understand it." }, { "start": 6946, "end": 6947, "text": " But the point is it's happening." }, { "start": 6947, "end": 6953.5, "text": " It's happening over and over again, like a recurring nightmare that you can't escape." }, { "start": 6953.5, "end": 6954.5, "text": " That's the verge cast." }, { "start": 6954.5, "end": 6955.5, "text": " The 100th verge cast." }, { "start": 6955.5, "end": 6958.8, "text": " We'll be back next week for the 100th." }, { "start": 6958.8, "end": 6959.8, "text": " First." }, { "start": 6959.8, "end": 6960.8, "text": " The 101st." }, { "start": 6960.8, "end": 6961.8, "text": " 101th?" }, { "start": 6961.8, "end": 6962.8, "text": " It's time for us to stop." }, { "start": 6962.8, "end": 6967.68, "text": " The next verge cast." }, { "start": 6967.68, "end": 6978.2, "text": " And as always, frankly, I think it bears saying now, as always from now, oh boy, is" }, { "start": 6978.2, "end": 6979.2, "text": " Paul back?" }, { "start": 6979.2, "end": 6980.2, "text": " Paul's coming back." }, { "start": 6980.2, "end": 6982.12, "text": " We'll wait until he gets back." }, { "start": 6982.12, "end": 6983.12, "text": " Come on, man." }, { "start": 6983.12, "end": 6986.68, "text": " Sit down and tell the people what your next move is and we're going to wrap up." }, { "start": 6986.68, "end": 6987.68, "text": " He's in New York now." }, { "start": 6987.68, "end": 6988.68, "text": " I love the brothers so bad." }, { "start": 6988.68, "end": 6989.68, "text": " Yeah, he really enjoyed that." }, { "start": 6989.68, "end": 6990.68, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 6990.68, "end": 6991.68, "text": " Anyhow, we're wrapping up." }, { "start": 6991.68, "end": 6993.240000000001, "text": " The 100th verge cast." }, { "start": 6993.240000000001, "end": 6998.320000000001, "text": " And one thing I can say to you that has been true from day one and will be true is that" }, { "start": 6998.320000000001, "end": 7001.56, "text": " there is no quarter for your family." }, { "start": 7001.56, "end": 7005.52, "text": " I'm coming for them and they can't escape." }, { "start": 7005.52, "end": 7008.280000000001, "text": " So just accept it." }, { "start": 7008.280000000001, "end": 7010.42, "text": " So thank you very much for listening." }, { "start": 7010.42, "end": 7014.56, "text": " And I wish you and yours all the best on this upcoming weekend." }, { "start": 7014.56, "end": 7021.400000000001, "text": " Only the most joyous and all playful celebrations should be had." }, { "start": 7021.4, "end": 7026.12, "text": " As always, I wish you and yours all the best for the upcoming weekend and week ahead." }, { "start": 7026.12, "end": 7030.759999999999, "text": " And until then, I wish you and yours the very best for the coming days and weeks ahead." }, { "start": 7030.759999999999, "end": 7032.839999999999, "text": " The very best over this holiday weekend." }, { "start": 7032.839999999999, "end": 7033.839999999999, "text": " It's not a holiday weekend." }, { "start": 7033.839999999999, "end": 7034.839999999999, "text": " That doesn't matter." }, { "start": 7034.839999999999, "end": 7035.839999999999, "text": " Why do you sound like Vincent Price?" }, { "start": 7035.839999999999, "end": 7039.04, "text": " And I wish all of you in your homes happiness." }, { "start": 7039.04, "end": 7041.04, "text": " The very best in the upcoming days and weeks." }, { "start": 7041.04, "end": 7046.839999999999, "text": " Yeah, coming days and weeks ahead as you live out your final moments here on the planet." }, { "start": 7046.839999999999, "end": 7050.5599999999995, "text": " And as always, I wish you and your family a great weekend alone." }, { "start": 7050.56, "end": 7055.92, "text": " You know, I hope that you enjoy a safe, secure weekend in your homes." }, { "start": 7055.92, "end": 7059.04, "text": " I'm sure there's nothing to fear in your home this weekend." }, { "start": 7059.04, "end": 7063.240000000001, "text": " I would not if I were you, I would not leave any of your doors or windows unlocked this" }, { "start": 7063.240000000001, "end": 7067.52, "text": " weekend because it could cause horrible danger to your family." }, { "start": 7067.52, "end": 7074.240000000001, "text": " You know, whatever you do, don't turn out your bedroom lights this weekend." }, { "start": 7074.240000000001, "end": 7079.18, "text": " As always, I wish you and yours the very best for a happy and healthy weekend where nothing" }, { "start": 7079.18, "end": 7082.6, "text": " horrible will happen to you or your family, I'm sure." }, { "start": 7082.6, "end": 7086.240000000001, "text": " You know, I think don't worry about what's in the backseat of your car." }, { "start": 7086.240000000001, "end": 7087.400000000001, "text": " It's probably nothing." }, { "start": 7087.400000000001, "end": 7091.240000000001, "text": " All the best for what will be a very hard and upsetting weekend." }, { "start": 7091.240000000001, "end": 7092.360000000001, "text": " We'll be back next weekend." }, { "start": 7092.360000000001, "end": 7096.8, "text": " As always, I wish you and your family the very best in this awful time." }, { "start": 7096.8, "end": 7100.68, "text": " The very best in this troubling holiday week." }, { "start": 7100.68, "end": 7103.56, "text": " No matter what happens to your family, I'm sure you'll be all right." }, { "start": 7103.56, "end": 7107.84, "text": " And as always, your family is in danger and there's nothing you can do about it, but I'm" }, { "start": 7107.84, "end": 7109.32, "text": " sure everything will end up all right." }, { "start": 7109.32, "end": 7110.92, "text": " I'm so sorry about your family." }, { "start": 7110.92, "end": 7115.68, "text": " And as always, I wish you and your beautiful new family all the best." }, { "start": 7115.68, "end": 7118.72, "text": " And until then, I think we're all going to be all right." }, { "start": 7118.72, "end": 7122.72, "text": " All the best in what can only be described as a nightmare HowlRide." }, { "start": 7122.72, "end": 7125.400000000001, "text": " You know, enjoy your family while you got them." }, { "start": 7125.400000000001, "end": 7126.400000000001, "text": " And that's it." }, { "start": 7126.400000000001, "end": 7132.96, "text": " I wish you and your family all the very best for this weekend and beyond." }, { "start": 7132.96, "end": 7137.8, "text": " I wish you and your family all the best." }, { "start": 7137.8, "end": 7145.52, "text": " Rock and roll." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 3, "text": " It's Thursday, October 31st, 2013." }, { "start": 3, "end": 8, "text": " I'm Nathan Seigert, and I'd like to wish you a spooktacular Halloween." }, { "start": 8, "end": 11, "text": " This is 90 Seconds on the Verge." }, { "start": 11, "end": 14, "text": " The Google Nexus 5 is now official." }, { "start": 14, "end": 17, "text": " The LG-made device has a 5-inch 1080p display," }, { "start": 17, "end": 20, "text": " supports LTE, and runs on the new Android 4.4 KitKat." }, { "start": 20, "end": 24, "text": " Besides a few design tweaks, the new OS integrates SMS into Hangouts," }, { "start": 24, "end": 27, "text": " upgrades Google Now, and adds Search to Dialer," }, { "start": 27, "end": 29, "text": " essentially turning it into the Yellow Pages." }, { "start": 29, "end": 33, "text": " The Nexus 5 is $349 off contract and available today." }, { "start": 33, "end": 37, "text": " Syria has taken its first steps in eliminating its chemical weapons stockpile." }, { "start": 37, "end": 40, "text": " The country's chemical weapons production systems have been destroyed," }, { "start": 40, "end": 44, "text": " according to a document from the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons." }, { "start": 44, "end": 48, "text": " The Syrian government had until November 1st to dismantle all production, mixing, and filling equipment." }, { "start": 48, "end": 53, "text": " The next step? Syria has until mid-2014 to destroy its chemical weapons stockpile." }, { "start": 53, "end": 57, "text": " And finally, what do Flight of the Conchords, King of the Hill, and NASA have in common?" }, { "start": 57, "end": 59, "text": " How about a new cartoon?" }, { "start": 59, "end": 62, "text": " Brett McKenzie, Oscar-winning Muppet composer in half of Flight of the Conchords," }, { "start": 62, "end": 65, "text": " has signed a deal with Fox to develop his own animated series." }, { "start": 65, "end": 69, "text": " The show, produced with the help of King of the Hill veterans Tony Gamo Lobo and Rebecca May," }, { "start": 69, "end": 74, "text": " will focus on a group of friends at a near-obsolete NASA Space Center in Boulder, Colorado." }, { "start": 74, "end": 76, "text": " No word yet on when the show will debut, but in the meantime," }, { "start": 76, "end": 80, "text": " you can get your Brett McKenzie fix when he appears in the next two installments of the Hobbit trilogy." }, { "start": 80, "end": 82, "text": " And that's it for today's top stories." }, { "start": 82, "end": 86, "text": " Coming up tomorrow, I review the pictures from my Ghost-themed Halloween party." }, { "start": 86, "end": 89, "text": " Everyone came in costumes, that's why it looked like no one showed up." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 7, "text": " This is Dan Berg with The Verge, and we're looking at Android 4.4 KitKat on the new Nexus 5." }, { "start": 7, "end": 11, "text": " As you can see, there's been a handful of different design tweaks, including the translucent menu bar," }, { "start": 11, "end": 14, "text": " and a little animation when you go in and view the apps." }, { "start": 14, "end": 20, "text": " It's a little bit like iOS 7, but not as big of an extreme change as iOS 7 was for Apple." }, { "start": 20, "end": 24, "text": " One of the changes is going to be to the dialer, and it operates a lot like the Yellow Pages now," }, { "start": 24, "end": 29, "text": " so instead of just having your contacts in there, you can also search for nearby restaurants" }, { "start": 29, "end": 34, "text": " and different places of interest. It'll show you and allow you to contact directly from the dialer." }, { "start": 34, "end": 40, "text": " Also, Google Now is going to be a lot smarter, and it's going to be able to give you information" }, { "start": 40, "end": 45, "text": " based on your location, as well as shows you might like and different sites you might like," }, { "start": 45, "end": 48, "text": " and it'll also direct you directly into the app that you want." }, { "start": 48, "end": 54, "text": " So Google has combined Google Hangouts and SMS, so they're now one and the same." }, { "start": 54, "end": 57, "text": " So by default, when you get your phone, there is no Messages app." }, { "start": 57, "end": 60, "text": " However, if you don't like that, you can always download a third-party application" }, { "start": 60, "end": 62, "text": " and set that as your default messaging app." }, { "start": 62, "end": 67, "text": " But as it stands, you're going to be using Hangouts a lot more on Android KitKat." }, { "start": 67, "end": 71, "text": " So overall, there has been a lot of changes under the hood." }, { "start": 71, "end": 75, "text": " Essentially, it's going to make the operating system run a lot better on lower-end phones." }, { "start": 75, "end": 87, "text": " Google promises updates to the Nexus phone and the Google Play Edition soon." } ]

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[ { "start": 0, "end": 2.72, "text": " It's Wednesday, October 30th, 2013." }, { "start": 2.72, "end": 6.48, "text": " I'm Dan Berg, the latest celebrity advisor to Hellmann's mayonnaise." }, { "start": 6.48, "end": 8.24, "text": " This is 90 seconds on the verge." }, { "start": 8.24, "end": 9.68, "text": " More news on the NSA." }, { "start": 9.68, "end": 13.76, "text": " Today, the Washington Post released new documents provided by Edward Snowden." }, { "start": 13.76, "end": 18.64, "text": " In them, revelations that the agency intercepts millions of pieces of Google and Yahoo user" }, { "start": 18.64, "end": 22.400000000000002, "text": " information each day by tapping into the links between servers." }, { "start": 22.400000000000002, "end": 26.32, "text": " And let it be known that there's nothing more disconcerting than leaked documents with smiley" }, { "start": 26.32, "end": 27.36, "text": " faces written on them." }, { "start": 27.36, "end": 30.24, "text": " Google Glass 2.0 is nigh upon us." }, { "start": 30.24, "end": 34, "text": " The company has unveiled a new model of its Cyborg headset yesterday." }, { "start": 34, "end": 39.2, "text": " The updated wearable features a removable mono earbud and now supports prescription lenses." }, { "start": 39.2, "end": 43.2, "text": " Two mystery barges have appeared, one on each side of the country, and many believe that" }, { "start": 43.2, "end": 45.519999999999996, "text": " these are the future Google Glass showrooms." }, { "start": 45.519999999999996, "end": 49.68, "text": " And finally, PS4 owners will have to find a friend with an Xbox One if they plan on" }, { "start": 49.68, "end": 50.8, "text": " playing Titanfall." }, { "start": 50.8, "end": 55.760000000000005, "text": " The CFO of Electronic Arts announced yesterday that the next-gen shooter will only be available" }, { "start": 55.76, "end": 58.64, "text": " on the Xbox One, 360, and PC." }, { "start": 58.64, "end": 62.879999999999995, "text": " While it has been a known launch title exclusive for some time, the news of the game staying" }, { "start": 62.879999999999995, "end": 65.36, "text": " only on the Xbox One comes as a surprise." }, { "start": 65.36, "end": 69.12, "text": " What is clear though is that Microsoft is using Titanfall as a major selling point for" }, { "start": 69.12, "end": 70.48, "text": " the next-gen console." }, { "start": 70.48, "end": 71.84, "text": " But don't worry, Sony fans." }, { "start": 71.84, "end": 76.56, "text": " Titanfall developers say the exclusivity deal only applies to the first game in the series," }, { "start": 76.56, "end": 79.44, "text": " and that future sequels may arrive on other consoles." }, { "start": 79.44, "end": 81.44, "text": " And that's it for today's top stories." }, { "start": 81.44, "end": 84, "text": " Coming up tomorrow, I get this darn nail out of my finger." }, { "start": 84, "end": 85.28, "text": " Just kidding, this is a prop." }, { "start": 85.28, "end": 115.04, "text": " Nothing bad ever happens at The Verge." } ]

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"end": 356.62, "text": " It's on our property." }, { "start": 356.62, "end": 362.48, "text": " We are responding to the best of our ability." }, { "start": 362.48, "end": 367.3, "text": " There's not a file cabinet back at the offices, what to do in case there's a sinkhole." }, { "start": 367.3, "end": 370.48, "text": " This is a unique phenomenon." }, { "start": 370.48, "end": 372.92, "text": " It's being studied by scientists all over the world." }, { "start": 372.92, "end": 375.16, "text": " It's never happened anywhere else." }, { "start": 375.16, "end": 380.6, "text": " Yes, we know that this sinkhole is connected to our brine cavern." }, { "start": 380.6, "end": 382.06, "text": " It's on our property." }, { "start": 382.06, "end": 388.88, "text": " The unanswered question is what caused the actual breach?" }, { "start": 388.88, "end": 394.6, "text": " Whenever the incident first happened with the sinkhole, they finally came out and said" }, { "start": 394.6, "end": 397.96, 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Just want you to know before we get any further, I am an" }, { "start": 43.32, "end": 47.08, "text": " investor in Makers Row, but just like any other startup on the show, we're" }, { "start": 47.08, "end": 52.08, "text": " profiling them because they're cool. I also just happen to be an investor. We" }, { "start": 52.08, "end": 56.68, "text": " connect designers and brands with American manufacturers. Basically our" }, { "start": 56.68, "end": 61.28, "text": " mission is to make manufacturing accessible in the U.S. When I graduated" }, { "start": 61.28, "end": 64.84, "text": " from Pratt, I designed watches for Marc Jacobs, DK&Y, a few other designer" }, { "start": 64.84, "end": 69.48, "text": " brands, decided to leave that behind, start my own watch company, and there I" }, { "start": 69.48, "end": 75.08, "text": " was producing overseas. And I got a very difficult lesson in like sourcing" }, { "start": 75.08, "end": 78.76, "text": " overseas as an independent company versus being part of a large corporation." }, { "start": 78.76, "end": 83.4, "text": " Got tired of that and I wanted to start a new company. Still very much in love" }, { "start": 83.4, "end": 87.68, "text": " with design, but now I wanted to have much more control over the manufacturing" }, { "start": 87.68, "end": 92.60000000000001, "text": " process, so I wanted to do everything locally. So everything I was getting was" }, { "start": 92.60000000000001, "end": 96.2, "text": " hyperlocal. The leather I was getting in Queens, the hardware I was getting in" }, { "start": 96.2, "end": 99.88000000000001, "text": " Bronx, and everything was assembled in Midtown in the garment district. So I" }, { "start": 99.88000000000001, "end": 104.24000000000001, "text": " knew every single person that was touching my product, and it was a world" }, { "start": 104.24000000000001, "end": 109.4, "text": " of a difference. I was working full-time. Where were you working? I was working at Goldman" }, { "start": 109.4, "end": 114.12, "text": " Sachs. Why did you want to leave Goldman Sachs? 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He" }, { "start": 148.12, "end": 152, "text": " wanted the best materials, the best contractor, and to be able to produce" }, { "start": 152, "end": 156.8, "text": " things with, you know, within two weeks, within a month, and so it was really hard." }, { "start": 156.8, "end": 161.56, "text": " It would take us months to find these American Manufacturers. Tanya was really" }, { "start": 161.56, "end": 167.48000000000002, "text": " the one who saw the opportunity in that because we would meet other designers" }, { "start": 167.48, "end": 170.84, "text": " all the time, and they all had the same problem. They couldn't find the right" }, { "start": 170.84, "end": 174.12, "text": " manufacturers. It was much easier to find them overseas, but they were having" }, { "start": 174.12, "end": 179.6, "text": " problems with it. I would go to conferences and people were complaining" }, { "start": 179.6, "end": 182.95999999999998, "text": " not just about marketing and sales, but they were complaining about production" }, { "start": 182.95999999999998, "end": 188.12, "text": " and how do I find a contractor, how do I find an American Manufacturer, and one of" }, { "start": 188.12, "end": 193.39999999999998, "text": " my designer colleagues paid $2,000 for just an Excel sheet of American" }, { "start": 193.4, "end": 197.48000000000002, "text": " Manufacturers, and I was like, this is ridiculous how like brokered the" }, { "start": 197.48000000000002, "end": 201.96, "text": " information is, how hard it is just to find information. Like the Yellow Pages" }, { "start": 201.96, "end": 205.64000000000001, "text": " isn't enough. Google isn't enough." }, { "start": 205.64000000000001, "end": 211.52, "text": " I'm from Detroit, and I've seen what manufacturing can do to build up a city," }, { "start": 211.52, "end": 215.68, "text": " and I can see what the loss of manufacturing can do to a city and" }, { "start": 215.68, "end": 220.6, "text": " devastate it. So it means a hell of a lot to be a part of something that can make" }, { "start": 220.6, "end": 226, "text": " a difference. I love going to factories. Not only is it something that that's" }, { "start": 226, "end": 231.84, "text": " kind of like my roots, my family came to Detroit because of Ford, all that sort" }, { "start": 231.84, "end": 235.76, "text": " of stuff, so manufacturing is in my blood. I wanted to apply my manufacturing" }, { "start": 235.76, "end": 240.56, "text": " experience to the platform so that we're not just like a Yellow Pages basically" }, { "start": 240.56, "end": 245.12, "text": " for American Manufacturers. I wanted it to be a platform in which it made" }, { "start": 245.12, "end": 251.08, "text": " manufacturing easier to understand as well as access. I broke down the" }, { "start": 251.08, "end": 256.44, "text": " manufacturing process into six basically bite-sized steps so that from basic" }, { "start": 256.44, "end": 261.92, "text": " concept to product in hand, a beginner would be able to follow those steps to" }, { "start": 261.92, "end": 265.6, "text": " be able to create whatever they wanted. Before MakersRow, was it really that bad?" }, { "start": 265.6, "end": 270.88, "text": " Was the sort of market for knowledge that inefficient that even you, a Pratt" }, { "start": 270.88, "end": 274.92, "text": " grad, like couldn't get the access you needed as efficiently as you'd like? So" }, { "start": 274.92, "end": 279.24, "text": " I'm gonna throw numbers at you. Bring it please. 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For the first 20 years he made" }, { "start": 454.14, "end": 459.56, "text": " his own line of lower end bags so these were 10, 15, 20 dollar bags we cannot do" }, { "start": 459.56, "end": 464.92, "text": " that anymore I mean China took over that whole market so we've had to change in" }, { "start": 464.92, "end": 468.2, "text": " order to adapt otherwise we would be gone just like most of the handbag" }, { "start": 468.2, "end": 472.32, "text": " manufacturers in New York he said you know the business is changing you know I" }, { "start": 472.32, "end": 476.08, "text": " want to go do in a different direction you know I can keep the business open if" }, { "start": 476.08, "end": 479.71999999999997, "text": " you want to take a stab at it or you know we're gonna close. I was like okay" }, { "start": 479.71999999999997, "end": 485.36, "text": " I'll try it I was young I had no idea what I was getting into. I was 21. So this is right" }, { "start": 485.36, "end": 488.91999999999996, "text": " out of school? Yeah. So you graduated from college? Yeah. Where'd you go to" }, { "start": 488.91999999999996, "end": 492.36, "text": " school? Cornell University. Awesome all right so you graduated from Cornell and" }, { "start": 492.36, "end": 497.62, "text": " your dad's like here's a business good luck. We had to switch to a more" }, { "start": 497.62, "end": 502.44, "text": " luxury product a more niche product we can't compete with lower end bags there" }, { "start": 502.44, "end": 506.68, "text": " are just too many factories overseas. Makers Row they came to our office and" }, { "start": 506.68, "end": 510.08, "text": " they said we you know we have a new idea we're gonna be making a website and" }, { "start": 510.08, "end": 513.8, "text": " would you like to be featured there's very little marketing in the" }, { "start": 513.8, "end": 516.92, "text": " manufacturing world so if anyone approaches me with a good idea they seem" }, { "start": 516.92, "end": 523.08, "text": " very serious I'm gonna go for it we had pretty much immediate you know response" }, { "start": 523.08, "end": 528.2, "text": " from new designers. You all have been in this for decades now how optimistic are" }, { "start": 528.2, "end": 533.2, "text": " you about manufacturing in the USA? I know that new designers cannot just go" }, { "start": 533.2, "end": 539.12, "text": " overseas and start placing orders it's just too much commitment so from Makers" }, { "start": 539.12, "end": 545.48, "text": " Row from the website I mean we see that we get so many inquiries every day so" }, { "start": 545.48, "end": 550.6400000000001, "text": " many so we have a full-time person just answering inquiries all day long so" }, { "start": 550.64, "end": 555.12, "text": " there is there are so many people with ideas in the US that don't really have" }, { "start": 555.12, "end": 559.52, "text": " the option to go overseas so all those people have to come to companies like" }, { "start": 559.52, "end": 564.16, "text": " ours. Wait so you've so because of orders from Makers Row and online you've got" }, { "start": 564.16, "end": 570.56, "text": " an entire person like hired to handle inbound? Yes because of Makers Row and I" }, { "start": 570.56, "end": 575.3199999999999, "text": " think just the economy some people are you know out of work and looking for" }, { "start": 575.3199999999999, "end": 580.24, "text": " things to do and start new things and of course Makers Row I mean that we get" }, { "start": 580.24, "end": 584.16, "text": " emails all day long people like to hide their manufacturer if they find a good" }, { "start": 584.16, "end": 587.24, "text": " manufacturer it's kind of like you have to know the right person or ask the" }, { "start": 587.24, "end": 591.84, "text": " right questions. And but the people are that everyone is so protective of their" }, { "start": 591.84, "end": 596.2, "text": " manufacturers because it's just that's the nature of the industry? I would say a" }, { "start": 596.2, "end": 601.08, "text": " lot of people are yes some people are not you know they don't mind but most" }, { "start": 601.08, "end": 606.08, "text": " people try to keep their factory a little bit secret. Every founder wants to" }, { "start": 606.08, "end": 608.84, "text": " disrupt an industry right they're all talking about some big thing they're" }, { "start": 608.84, "end": 614.36, "text": " gonna change. You guys are going after a really entrenched one that has a lot to" }, { "start": 614.36, "end": 621, "text": " lose for basically having this information out freely you know if if" }, { "start": 621, "end": 624.64, "text": " Makers Row succeeds there are lots of people who've made it their business to" }, { "start": 624.64, "end": 628.32, "text": " hoard information about good manufacturers probably not gonna want to" }, { "start": 628.32, "end": 631.32, "text": " give it up so what's been I mean what's been the biggest challenge so far with" }, { "start": 631.32, "end": 636.4000000000001, "text": " dealing with that kind of disruption? So we've gotten scathing emails from" }, { "start": 636.4, "end": 641.4399999999999, "text": " consultants which oftentimes you're right they hoard this information so" }, { "start": 641.4399999999999, "end": 647.12, "text": " that entrepreneurs like myself will pay them $2,000 just for a spreadsheet of" }, { "start": 647.12, "end": 652.04, "text": " contacts and you know that there's no real critical information in there to" }, { "start": 652.04, "end": 654.6999999999999, "text": " let you know whether this is the manufacturer or not so you're still on" }, { "start": 654.6999999999999, "end": 659.8, "text": " the phone. There was this one time where I picked up the phone we don't put our" }, { "start": 659.8, "end": 665.96, "text": " phone number anymore because we just got too many calls but I picked up the" }, { "start": 665.96, "end": 672.36, "text": " phone and this consultant or this guy in the industry wanted to come over and talk" }, { "start": 672.36, "end": 675.88, "text": " to us so I was just like sure and come over and talk to us and so he came over" }, { "start": 675.88, "end": 679.76, "text": " and then it actually ended up being a bad situation because he threatened us." }, { "start": 679.76, "end": 685.58, "text": " We sat down with him and he basically was like you know I'm gonna get what I" }, { "start": 685.58, "end": 689.0400000000001, "text": " want you know and I want to be a part of what you guys are doing like we have" }, { "start": 689.0400000000001, "end": 692.84, "text": " ways of shutting these types of things down but you know. Who is the we he's" }, { "start": 692.84, "end": 697.4, "text": " talking about here? It's always that we where it's not this big guy that's" }, { "start": 697.4, "end": 701.2, "text": " called tiny behind him. You know they always try to make it seem as though" }, { "start": 701.2, "end": 706.0400000000001, "text": " they have this crew of people that or this yeah basically crew of people that" }, { "start": 706.0400000000001, "end": 708.8000000000001, "text": " could shut you down. He's just like you guys are crazy for giving all this" }, { "start": 708.8000000000001, "end": 712.2800000000001, "text": " information away for free I charge people for this information if you don't" }, { "start": 712.2800000000001, "end": 716.2800000000001, "text": " work with me I'm not saying I'm gonna do anything illegal but I'm gonna get what" }, { "start": 716.2800000000001, "end": 720.34, "text": " I want and and we're sitting there in the conference room and we're just like" }, { "start": 720.34, "end": 727.12, "text": " what do I do? It's like a shakedown. And it's like this big guy. That is madness." }, { "start": 727.12, "end": 730.88, "text": " Most startups don't have to deal with like a mafia style shakedown like" }, { "start": 730.88, "end": 734.9200000000001, "text": " that's like a really nice startup here be ashamed for something to happen to it" }, { "start": 734.9200000000001, "end": 738.32, "text": " like that's exactly but then he was also telling yeah cuz he was telling us other" }, { "start": 738.32, "end": 742.2800000000001, "text": " stories about like violent things he had done and I'm just like is that are you" }, { "start": 742.2800000000001, "end": 747.88, "text": " trying to put those two together? When he says shut down what do you" }, { "start": 747.88, "end": 752.08, "text": " think he's talking about? Oh you and I both know what he's talking about." }, { "start": 752.08, "end": 757.28, "text": " He's using intimidation tactics to try to you know shut down the" }, { "start": 757.28, "end": 762.72, "text": " site which is understandable if that's if your only means of revenue is that" }, { "start": 762.72, "end": 766.08, "text": " spreadsheet you're gonna be pretty pissed because that's probably been" }, { "start": 766.08, "end": 772.22, "text": " supplying you you know for over five ten years. We didn't know that you know so" }, { "start": 772.22, "end": 775.12, "text": " many people are going to be upset because we were giving information away" }, { "start": 775.12, "end": 779.32, "text": " for free and so now we don't we don't take meetings unless we know who they" }, { "start": 779.32, "end": 785.76, "text": " are and nothing ended up happening he didn't end up you know shanking us or" }, { "start": 785.76, "end": 788.76, "text": " anything. As long as you don't wake up with any horses heads in your bed like" }, { "start": 788.76, "end": 793.08, "text": " yeah we still were a little bit shaky on that but I'm really happy that nothing" }, { "start": 793.08, "end": 798.52, "text": " came about so hopefully he's not watching. Got quite a few neighbors in" }, { "start": 798.52, "end": 803, "text": " here. Yeah yeah got a ton of companies here in the incubator it's really awesome" }, { "start": 803, "end": 806.4, "text": " to be able to network with so many different types of companies. You got" }, { "start": 806.4, "end": 810.08, "text": " there's just a maker bot here in the office for anyone to make stuff with?" }, { "start": 810.08, "end": 814.96, "text": " Absolutely. I feel like I don't know if it's a New York tech thing but there is" }, { "start": 814.96, "end": 818.88, "text": " a kind of I feel like there's an undeniable camaraderie at least. Oh yeah" }, { "start": 818.88, "end": 824.76, "text": " absolutely. This is our home right here in this area. You guys do not hide" }, { "start": 824.76, "end": 828.68, "text": " anything about this Made in the USA pride. If you couldn't tell what area was ours." }, { "start": 828.68, "end": 832.4, "text": " What has been the most surprising thing on the job here rocking social media for" }, { "start": 832.4, "end": 840.4, "text": " makers around the world? The positive response we get from everybody. Everyone's really passionate about Made in USA and really excited and they want to see it grow." }, { "start": 840.4, "end": 846.4, "text": " A lot of the stuff that you're using today was that education learned in the" }, { "start": 846.4, "end": 850.4399999999999, "text": " classroom or just learned from googling and stack exchange and just trial and" }, { "start": 850.4399999999999, "end": 854.64, "text": " error? I'm glad you asked this because no essentially it's all from trial and error" }, { "start": 854.64, "end": 858.98, "text": " googling from other people on the job. I actually went to college Syracuse" }, { "start": 858.98, "end": 864.9200000000001, "text": " University for design and I've just been coding since I was 13. So similar to what" }, { "start": 864.9200000000001, "end": 870.4, "text": " Raphael said I never went to school for this and I don't believe that you can" }, { "start": 870.4, "end": 873.52, "text": " really I mean you'll be better if you just learn on your own I think." }, { "start": 873.52, "end": 877.52, "text": " It's nice to have the degree and you'll have like this foundation but in" }, { "start": 877.52, "end": 881.84, "text": " order to stay up with trends and stack overflow googling terms all the time I" }, { "start": 881.84, "end": 886.08, "text": " mean I think anyone can really do it if they put their mind to it and they're" }, { "start": 886.08, "end": 890, "text": " really excited about doing it. I encourage everyone to to start building" }, { "start": 890, "end": 902.8000000000001, "text": " a small empire. Because we recently met this amazing couple who were so" }, { "start": 902.8000000000001, "end": 906.84, "text": " incredibly in love that it made me feel guilty for being a not nearly as" }, { "start": 906.84, "end": 913.2, "text": " romantic as I could be boyfriend I want to make this special purse and now what" }, { "start": 913.2, "end": 916.72, "text": " would my experience be like if I say went to Google or went to Alibaba and" }, { "start": 916.72, "end": 920.48, "text": " tried to get this purse made overseas? There would be a little bit of a" }, { "start": 920.48, "end": 924.5600000000001, "text": " language barrier. You're just assuming I don't know Mandarin or Cantonese or" }, { "start": 924.5600000000001, "end": 932.48, "text": " Vietnamese or Laotian. Yeah I'm assuming that. You would probably have to act as if you were going to be placing a larger order in the" }, { "start": 932.48, "end": 936.36, "text": " future so they usually if they're making you a sample they might charge you a" }, { "start": 936.36, "end": 939.9200000000001, "text": " low fee for the sample but they expect you know a few hundred piece order" }, { "start": 939.92, "end": 947.5999999999999, "text": " afterwards. Their businesses are set up for the production side. So here's where" }, { "start": 947.5999999999999, "end": 952.56, "text": " a bag starts we take the sketch that the client gave us and we make a set of" }, { "start": 952.56, "end": 957.36, "text": " patterns then the pieces are hand cut and assembled after that into a finished" }, { "start": 957.36, "end": 961.36, "text": " prototype. He's cutting the leather, skiving it. What does skiving it mean?" }, { "start": 961.36, "end": 966.68, "text": " Skiving is when you take the leather and you thin out the edges. That was a" }, { "start": 966.68, "end": 969.88, "text": " course for the viewers I obviously know what skiving is I just wanted everyone" }, { "start": 969.88, "end": 978.76, "text": " else to know. So roughly how many bags would you say can be made here in a day?" }, { "start": 978.76, "end": 984.6, "text": " In a day about a hundred. I live in a world where all we do is like pixels so" }, { "start": 984.6, "end": 989.28, "text": " just watching physical stuff be made and start out as like a sketch over there" }, { "start": 989.28, "end": 995.12, "text": " and be a thing that I would touch if it would not get me in trouble. It's pretty cool." }, { "start": 995.12, "end": 1003.4, "text": " You're gonna place the rivet on there you're gonna press the foot down and the" }, { "start": 1003.4, "end": 1007.48, "text": " rivet is tight on the bag now." }, { "start": 1007.48, "end": 1010.92, "text": " Okay all right it's in there." }, { "start": 1010.92, "end": 1017.96, "text": " Push down. There you go. The rivet is on tight. You know if I've learned anything" }, { "start": 1017.96, "end": 1023.12, "text": " from just doing this for the last 15 seconds I am NOT cut out to do" }, { "start": 1023.12, "end": 1027.32, "text": " manufacturing. I think you're doing a pretty good job. I would get kicked off the line." }, { "start": 1027.32, "end": 1034.88, "text": " Are you kidding at this rate? No I need to stick to keyboards. Your speed is a" }, { "start": 1034.88, "end": 1042.44, "text": " little slow but we can work on that. I know. That is riveting." }, { "start": 1043.16, "end": 1049.4, "text": " Surprise the missus. I love it. It comes from the heart and the riveter. Just" }, { "start": 1049.4, "end": 1056.5600000000002, "text": " don't say you made it here then if that's what you're giving her. Wow." }, { "start": 1056.5600000000002, "end": 1062.6000000000001, "text": " How much does it help you all that most Americans are now I think it's pretty" }, { "start": 1062.6000000000001, "end": 1067, "text": " safe to say aware of our dependence on foreign manufacturing. This was something" }, { "start": 1067, "end": 1069.3600000000001, "text": " this is not a new phenomenon but I feel like it's something that's certainly in" }, { "start": 1069.3600000000001, "end": 1073.68, "text": " the last 10 years has really peaked in terms of awareness. Does it help you now" }, { "start": 1073.68, "end": 1077.96, "text": " because you can actually say like yes we have manufacturers who are producing" }, { "start": 1077.96, "end": 1081.2, "text": " this stuff the United States. You know all of the benefits that are there are" }, { "start": 1081.2, "end": 1085.8, "text": " available not just for designers but also for consumers. Is the" }, { "start": 1085.8, "end": 1090.96, "text": " timing of this right? Whereas even like 10 years ago it wouldn't be nearly as" }, { "start": 1090.96, "end": 1095.3600000000001, "text": " optimal as it is today. I would say the stars are really aligned for us because" }, { "start": 1095.3600000000001, "end": 1101.2, "text": " it's a political issue. This is something where smaller communities are" }, { "start": 1101.2, "end": 1105.04, "text": " talking about jobs because they're losing jobs because factories are shutting down." }, { "start": 1105.04, "end": 1108.8799999999999, "text": " But this is also a time that we're fortunate because the prices of" }, { "start": 1108.8799999999999, "end": 1114.04, "text": " overseas manufacturing are rising and they're rising really fast. The watches" }, { "start": 1114.04, "end": 1119.28, "text": " that I produced in 2007 have now doubled if not tripled in price of production" }, { "start": 1119.28, "end": 1124.48, "text": " alone. So we see this happening all across the board and now a lot of larger" }, { "start": 1124.48, "end": 1128.8799999999999, "text": " companies like GE and Apple they're looking for domestic manufacturing" }, { "start": 1128.8799999999999, "end": 1133.32, "text": " alternatives. Right so there isn't it's not just a kind of moral decision it's a" }, { "start": 1133.32, "end": 1138.8, "text": " business one. Right and I think that a lot of people basically relied on the" }, { "start": 1138.8, "end": 1143.6, "text": " consumer to make the choice to choose you know domestic over foreign based" }, { "start": 1143.6, "end": 1149.12, "text": " product but I think that's really unfair when you see only 3% of the apparel" }, { "start": 1149.12, "end": 1153.12, "text": " that's consumed in the United States is actually made here. You can't really" }, { "start": 1153.12, "end": 1159.52, "text": " blame the consumer. What we want to do is encourage the decision-makers, the brands" }, { "start": 1159.52, "end": 1163.6399999999999, "text": " that are deciding where their stuff is made and encouraging them to produce" }, { "start": 1163.6399999999999, "end": 1167.2, "text": " here locally so then we can switch it around where there's many more American" }, { "start": 1167.2, "end": 1173.32, "text": " goods that can be found in stores. We make a lot of very trendy things here. A" }, { "start": 1173.32, "end": 1177.76, "text": " lot of it is because we can stay on trend because the turnaround is so fast" }, { "start": 1177.76, "end": 1183.04, "text": " that people really can kind of see what the trend is and get sales. How often do" }, { "start": 1183.04, "end": 1188.6399999999999, "text": " your designers sort of rave about Made in USA? Like do you guys ever get asked" }, { "start": 1188.64, "end": 1194.4, "text": " to put little American flag tags inside or anything that? Absolutely we have we" }, { "start": 1194.4, "end": 1199.5600000000002, "text": " usually have Made in USA labels so if I take one of these bags" }, { "start": 1199.5600000000002, "end": 1207.3200000000002, "text": " we have a Made in USA right under the tag. Don't see enough of that. It feels like there's" }, { "start": 1207.3200000000002, "end": 1211.8000000000002, "text": " definitely a mission element to this company. You know what is the" }, { "start": 1211.8000000000002, "end": 1215, "text": " best-case scenario for a city like Detroit which has seen so much" }, { "start": 1215, "end": 1220.96, "text": " manufacturing disappear? I mean it's certainly coming back a little bit but" }, { "start": 1220.96, "end": 1223.44, "text": " what do you hope Makers Row can do for cities like Detroit? You can say that with" }, { "start": 1223.44, "end": 1227.56, "text": " your chest out because manufacturing is absolutely coming back. Well then when you're saying it" }, { "start": 1227.56, "end": 1232.4, "text": " I mean you can say it with conviction. It is a mission for us and I think that we" }, { "start": 1232.4, "end": 1236.8, "text": " found within the first few weeks we saw that this wasn't going to be something" }, { "start": 1236.8, "end": 1240.44, "text": " in which we're just calling people asking them to sign up. This is an on-the-ground" }, { "start": 1240.44, "end": 1245.72, "text": " effort and we've just recently you know formed this type of series in which" }, { "start": 1245.72, "end": 1250.04, "text": " we're going out to these communities so more recently we went to Newark and with" }, { "start": 1250.04, "end": 1255.56, "text": " the help of Cory Booker and the city and Brookings Institute and so many other" }, { "start": 1255.56, "end": 1260.0800000000002, "text": " sponsors that basically open the doors to these manufacturers that if you" }, { "start": 1260.0800000000002, "end": 1263.72, "text": " knocked on their door they're not going to open it unless they have that" }, { "start": 1263.72, "end": 1269.0800000000002, "text": " familiar voice. So we're taking that type of series and going across the country" }, { "start": 1269.08, "end": 1273.8, "text": " with it. We're going to make our way back to Detroit definitely. There are lots of" }, { "start": 1273.8, "end": 1277.24, "text": " reasons why manufacturing is coming back to the United States. Plenty of them are" }, { "start": 1277.24, "end": 1281.12, "text": " economic. What's so remarkable about Makers Row is that it's making it easy" }, { "start": 1281.12, "end": 1286.1999999999998, "text": " for anyone to take a sketch in their notebook and turn it into a physical" }, { "start": 1286.2, "end": 1315.24, "text": " good and all that efficiency means a lot more innovation." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 5.92, "text": " Greetings mobile accomplishers, welcome to the Verge Mobile Show. I don't know what" }, { "start": 5.92, "end": 9.84, "text": " episode it is, it's an episode and we're here, we're back, we took a week off, but" }, { "start": 9.84, "end": 14.64, "text": " we're back. It's episode 66 for the week of October 29th, 2013. The title of today's" }, { "start": 14.64, "end": 19.84, "text": " show is, we missed a show. So welcome to the Verge Mobile Show. I am Dieter Bohm." }, { "start": 19.84, "end": 22.42, "text": " I am Vlad Savo." }, { "start": 22.42, "end": 24.04, "text": " I'm Dan Seifert." }, { "start": 24.04, "end": 27.16, "text": " And I'm Chris Ziegler. And I'm told I'm super loud." }, { "start": 27.16, "end": 30.48, "text": " Yeah, also your microphone is set too high." }, { "start": 30.48, "end": 33.94, "text": " You're super loud and I'm super orange, so." }, { "start": 33.94, "end": 40, "text": " And I'm working on an incredibly insane setup because I cleared out my San Francisco office." }, { "start": 40, "end": 45.120000000000005, "text": " And so my computer is sitting on top of two boxes and I have to type like this because" }, { "start": 45.120000000000005, "end": 48, "text": " I needed to position the camera properly for the show, so." }, { "start": 48, "end": 51.480000000000004, "text": " Is this better? Am I not super loud now?" }, { "start": 51.480000000000004, "end": 52.480000000000004, "text": " You're way better." }, { "start": 52.480000000000004, "end": 53.480000000000004, "text": " You're awesome, Chris." }, { "start": 53.480000000000004, "end": 54.480000000000004, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 54.480000000000004, "end": 55.480000000000004, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 55.48, "end": 60, "text": " So I'm gonna find this out otherwise my pedantry is going to get a better of me. It's the week" }, { "start": 60, "end": 62, "text": " of October 28th." }, { "start": 62, "end": 68.56, "text": " Right. Today is October 29th. It's the show that we broadcast on the 29th." }, { "start": 68.56, "end": 69.56, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 69.56, "end": 75.24, "text": " Look man, I'm just discombobulated, alright? I'm beside myself with excitement because" }, { "start": 75.24, "end": 82.19999999999999, "text": " of the new project out of Motorola, which is pronounced Ara. Ara." }, { "start": 82.2, "end": 86.26, "text": " I gotta be honest, when I was, I woke up this morning and I'm scrolling through my tweets" }, { "start": 86.26, "end": 90.14, "text": " last night and I see this thing flash by and I'm like, oh my god, they're bringing back" }, { "start": 90.14, "end": 93.76, "text": " the Ara, they're bringing back the Ara, they're bringing back the Ara. I got really excited" }, { "start": 93.76, "end": 97.88, "text": " and then I read the article and I was like, oh, they're just trying to do what Modu does." }, { "start": 97.88, "end": 101.76, "text": " Or tried to do and then I got really bummed." }, { "start": 101.76, "end": 106.64, "text": " This is more than Modu though. Modu was like trying to sell you the core of a phone and" }, { "start": 106.64, "end": 111.96000000000001, "text": " then you like put it into sleeves to make the phone you want. This is trying to sell" }, { "start": 111.96, "end": 115.24, "text": " you the screen and then you slap stuff onto it like…" }, { "start": 115.24, "end": 116.24, "text": " I mean…" }, { "start": 116.24, "end": 117.24, "text": " Not even the screen." }, { "start": 117.24, "end": 122.96, "text": " It's a different approach but it's the same idea of components that you bolt on," }, { "start": 122.96, "end": 126.38, "text": " right? And swap out and all that other stuff." }, { "start": 126.38, "end": 129.51999999999998, "text": " You know, you keep on talking about Modu like they were the first people to come up with" }, { "start": 129.51999999999998, "end": 130.51999999999998, "text": " this and…" }, { "start": 130.51999999999998, "end": 131.51999999999998, "text": " Oh no." }, { "start": 131.51999999999998, "end": 139.07999999999998, "text": " Really, I'm trying to think if there was ever a company that sold a small handheld" }, { "start": 139.07999999999998, "end": 140.07999999999998, "text": " device…" }, { "start": 140.07999999999998, "end": 141.07999999999998, "text": " Any ideas Chris?" }, { "start": 141.08, "end": 147.36, "text": " …different modules into to change its functionality?" }, { "start": 147.36, "end": 151.96, "text": " So what you're referring to is literally any expansion slot?" }, { "start": 151.96, "end": 158.68, "text": " Well, that specifically could add like more than just memory expansion but like…" }, { "start": 158.68, "end": 163.76000000000002, "text": " Oh, you mean like the Wi-Fi SD card that a lot of Windows mobile devices used for a while?" }, { "start": 163.76000000000002, "end": 166.32000000000002, "text": " Yeah, but before those were available." }, { "start": 166.32000000000002, "end": 167.32000000000002, "text": " Hmm." }, { "start": 167.32000000000002, "end": 168.32000000000002, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 168.32, "end": 172.32, "text": " No, I can't think of anything that's relevant. No." }, { "start": 172.32, "end": 180.32, "text": " Well, this company sounds just like Modu in that nobody can remember who they are." }, { "start": 180.32, "end": 182.51999999999998, "text": " That sounds about right." }, { "start": 182.51999999999998, "end": 188.32, "text": " And probably in the fact that it no longer exists. Would that be a clue?" }, { "start": 188.32, "end": 189.32, "text": " True." }, { "start": 189.32, "end": 192.32, "text": " Seriously, why can't you guys admit…" }, { "start": 192.32, "end": 194.84, "text": " Get it out Peter. Peter, just say it." }, { "start": 194.84, "end": 200.4, "text": " Let's admit that the visor phone was 10 years ahead of its time." }, { "start": 200.4, "end": 204.64000000000001, "text": " Because it wasn't 10 years ahead of its time. It was an enormous…" }, { "start": 204.64000000000001, "end": 211.68, "text": " Look, first of all, correct me if I'm wrong, you needed to plug in like an earpiece thing" }, { "start": 211.68, "end": 212.68, "text": " to use it, right?" }, { "start": 212.68, "end": 213.68, "text": " No, you're wrong. You're totally wrong." }, { "start": 213.68, "end": 215.16, "text": " You could hold it up to your face?" }, { "start": 215.16, "end": 216.16, "text": " Yes, you could." }, { "start": 216.16, "end": 218.4, "text": " No, that's not right." }, { "start": 218.4, "end": 223.04, "text": " Every single visor had a microphone which ironically was not hardwired to the motherboard" }, { "start": 223.04, "end": 226.95999999999998, "text": " so you couldn't actually record anything from it. But it was specifically designed" }, { "start": 226.95999999999998, "end": 231.88, "text": " to hook into the visor phone and the visor phone had an earpiece on it. That was one" }, { "start": 231.88, "end": 237.32, "text": " of the advantages over early BlackBerrys which did require you to have an earpiece." }, { "start": 237.32, "end": 241.72, "text": " So here's my question. If we were doing a tablet podcast, would we be referencing" }, { "start": 241.72, "end": 247.04, "text": " the Apple Newton and the very, very first ThinkPad from IBM and just say, those were" }, { "start": 247.04, "end": 249.44, "text": " ahead of their time. We need to talk about them." }, { "start": 249.44, "end": 254.76, "text": " No, we wouldn't. We'd be talking about the Grid Pad from Jeff Hawkins who later went" }, { "start": 254.76, "end": 255.76, "text": " on to found Palm." }, { "start": 255.76, "end": 256.76, "text": " That's right." }, { "start": 256.76, "end": 257.76, "text": " That's what we would be talking about." }, { "start": 257.76, "end": 259.04, "text": " Can we talk about the Grid 10 too?" }, { "start": 259.04, "end": 260.04, "text": " We actually can." }, { "start": 260.04, "end": 261.04, "text": " And the Grid 4." }, { "start": 261.04, "end": 265.8, "text": " We actually can use the visor phone and its problems as an example of what is going to" }, { "start": 265.8, "end": 269.15999999999997, "text": " go wrong for…is it Aira or Aura?" }, { "start": 269.15999999999997, "end": 270.15999999999997, "text": " Aura." }, { "start": 270.15999999999997, "end": 271.15999999999997, "text": " Project Aura." }, { "start": 271.15999999999997, "end": 272.15999999999997, "text": " Aura." }, { "start": 272.15999999999997, "end": 275.68, "text": " I prefer Aura but Aura is like a new era." }, { "start": 275.68, "end": 279.32, "text": " They went from having it be a separate module to an integrated phone." }, { "start": 279.32, "end": 283.92, "text": " Because there are fundamental things that work better and more efficiently and faster" }, { "start": 283.92, "end": 287.36, "text": " by putting them all in a single system on a chip or on a single motherboard that's" }, { "start": 287.36, "end": 290.15999999999997, "text": " just really hard to do with modular design." }, { "start": 290.15999999999997, "end": 293.24, "text": " So if you're going to break out the cellular radio and you're going to break out the" }, { "start": 293.24, "end": 298.71999999999997, "text": " camera processing and you're going to break out, I don't know, the keyboard processor," }, { "start": 298.71999999999997, "end": 302.92, "text": " I don't know, whatever other things you're going to stick onto this modular phone, it's" }, { "start": 302.92, "end": 309, "text": " fundamentally going to make it fatter just physically but also harder to work efficiently" }, { "start": 309, "end": 313.52, "text": " in a way that a phone really needs to be fast and battery efficient." }, { "start": 313.52, "end": 319.4, "text": " And I think that was one of the things that killed the visor phone plus they really wanted" }, { "start": 319.4, "end": 320.84, "text": " to make the smartphone in the first place." }, { "start": 320.84, "end": 327.08, "text": " But it's a real fundamental challenge for what Motorola is trying to do here." }, { "start": 327.08, "end": 331.6, "text": " The other thing is the absence of an established interconnect." }, { "start": 331.6, "end": 337.28, "text": " Because you need bandwidth to move between the graphics chip and the applications processor" }, { "start": 337.28, "end": 342.28, "text": " and this is why all these things are being integrated like you're saying." }, { "start": 342.28, "end": 346.4, "text": " And over the past couple of years, one of the huge advantages that Qualcomm has had" }, { "start": 346.4, "end": 353, "text": " ahead of the other guys is integrating the LTE modem together with its processing chip" }, { "start": 353, "end": 357, "text": " and being ahead of everybody else in terms of having better power efficiency and all" }, { "start": 357, "end": 358, "text": " of those things." }, { "start": 358, "end": 362.67999999999995, "text": " And so Nvidia hasn't been able to break into the high end in the United States because" }, { "start": 362.67999999999995, "end": 364.88, "text": " of LTE being such a standard." }, { "start": 364.88, "end": 370.76, "text": " So those considerations being set aside, the whole project behind the Ara and phone blocks" }, { "start": 370.76, "end": 377, "text": " which Ara is essentially a part of an extension of a really technical realization of phone" }, { "start": 377, "end": 378.15999999999997, "text": " blocks." }, { 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just not" }, { "start": 414.4, "end": 418.44, "text": " disposing of the device every one year or two years or whatever it is." }, { "start": 418.44, "end": 422.64, "text": " The premise is you have your phone, you stick with it, you just exchange parts." }, { "start": 422.64, "end": 428.28, "text": " Well so the problem I see with it, as exciting as this is, and I'm really really stoked about" }, { "start": 428.28, "end": 432.47999999999996, "text": " this concept and it makes a lot of sense to me on many levels, I think it's a non-starter" }, { "start": 432.47999999999996, "end": 439.44, "text": " in the US and in other markets with either device subsidies or monthly payment plans" }, { "start": 439.44, "end": 444.8, "text": " because consumers at every step along this road are going to be faced with the question" }, { "start": 444.8, "end": 451.08, "text": " of do I want to spend between say $50 and $200 for a new module for my phone or do I" }, { "start": 451.08, "end": 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"text": " But again I think Project Arrow from Motorola and the phone book's idea, I mean they're" }, { "start": 531.88, "end": 535.6, "text": " idealistic, you kind of have to accept that." }, { "start": 535.6, "end": 543.84, "text": " I got to say, maybe it's because I was able to upgrade but the D3100 was a very good camera" }, { "start": 543.84, "end": 544.84, "text": " to me." }, { "start": 544.84, "end": 548.48, "text": " I'm just putting that out there, it helped me learn how to use DSLRs, I'm very happy" }, { "start": 548.48, "end": 549.8000000000001, "text": " that I own that camera." }, { "start": 549.8000000000001, "end": 554.08, "text": " I don't feel that it is a bad camera for people as long as they understand what they're" }, { "start": 554.08, "end": 555.08, "text": " getting into." }, { "start": 555.08, "end": 556.08, "text": " I'm just…" }, { "start": 556.08, "end": 563.2, "text": " Such as the fact that they need to buy an actual camera when they know how to use it." }, { "start": 563.2, "end": 567.9000000000001, "text": " So my whole thing with this is I just can't believe that Motorola is going to be able" }, { "start": 567.9000000000001, "end": 573.9200000000001, "text": " to make the components either A, cheap enough to manufacture, easy enough to work with," }, { "start": 573.9200000000001, "end": 574.9200000000001, "text": " etc." }, { "start": 574.9200000000001, "end": 576.48, "text": " I have a solution for that." }, { "start": 576.48, "end": 580.76, "text": " Well let me make my comparison first and then you can shoot it down." }, { "start": 580.76, "end": 584.44, "text": " If you look at the laptop market, it's been going the exact opposite direction for the" }, { "start": 584.44, "end": 586.0400000000001, "text": " past however many years." }, { "start": 586.0400000000001, "end": 589.1600000000001, "text": " You used to be able to upgrade the RAM, you used to be able to upgrade the hard drive," }, { "start": 589.1600000000001, "end": 592.44, "text": " you used to be able to upgrade your optical drive when it had those and things like that." }, { "start": 592.44, "end": 597.2, "text": " And now any Ultrabook you buy, any Macbook that you buy are all sealed in components." }, { "start": 597.2, "end": 599.6400000000001, "text": " You can't upgrade anything out of them." }, { "start": 599.6400000000001, "end": 605.5600000000001, "text": " They do that for cost, size and power efficiency and all of those things are even more paramount" }, { "start": 605.5600000000001, "end": 606.5600000000001, "text": " in a mobile device." }, { "start": 606.5600000000001, "end": 612.7600000000001, "text": " Do you think that they also do it for planned obsolescence forest upgrades?" }, { "start": 612.7600000000001, "end": 614.32, "text": " I don't but it's possible." }, { "start": 614.32, "end": 615.32, "text": " I don't." }, { "start": 615.32, "end": 617.5600000000001, "text": " Maybe you don't want to be conspiratorial about it." }, { "start": 617.56, "end": 622.4799999999999, "text": " I mean Motorola's solution for how are they going to make all these different plug-in" }, { "start": 622.4799999999999, "end": 625.4, "text": " modules and components cheaply is they're not going to make them." }, { "start": 625.4, "end": 628.3599999999999, "text": " They're going to let people, other people make them." }, { "start": 628.3599999999999, "end": 634, "text": " They're going to hopefully have a hardware community build up around it." }, { "start": 634, "end": 637.56, "text": " That's exactly like when a company says we have this awesome new feature and we're not" }, { "start": 637.56, "end": 640.5999999999999, "text": " going to build any software features for it, we're just going to release an SDK and hope" }, { "start": 640.5999999999999, "end": 642.64, "text": " that software developers make something for it." }, { "start": 642.64, "end": 649.76, "text": " They're releasing, they're literally releasing module developers kit, so an MDK." }, { "start": 649.76, "end": 654.76, "text": " That works in very rare circumstances and when it does work it can be very good." }, { "start": 654.76, "end": 655.76, "text": " It works for the visor." }, { "start": 655.76, "end": 658.76, "text": " But sometimes it doesn't work." }, { "start": 658.76, "end": 664.28, "text": " When you think about Samsung has an SDK for everything and how many apps are developed" }, { "start": 664.28, "end": 670.24, "text": " for Samsungs that use the S Pen that aren't made by Samsung?" }, { "start": 670.24, "end": 677.12, "text": " Listen, there are apps but if your question is how many worthwhile apps you can maybe" }, { "start": 677.12, "end": 679.64, "text": " count them on one hand if you're lucky." }, { "start": 679.64, "end": 681.44, "text": " But let me raise a couple of points." }, { "start": 681.44, "end": 686.44, "text": " Firstly to what Dan is saying about increasing integration and consolidation with laptops," }, { "start": 686.44, "end": 691, "text": " same thing has been happening with desktops and the Mac Pro is the perfect example of" }, { "start": 691, "end": 692, "text": " that." }, { "start": 692, "end": 693, "text": " It really is a perfect example." }, { "start": 693, "end": 698.28, "text": " I mean a lot of people are complaining because you lose a whole bunch of expandability, connectivity" }, { "start": 698.28, "end": 703.36, "text": " etc. but at the same time Apple's pitch with the Mac Pro is the fact that the entire case" }, { "start": 703.36, "end": 705.72, "text": " is essentially a heatsink fan unit." }, { "start": 705.72, "end": 708.28, "text": " It's all really integrated and helps." }, { "start": 708.28, "end": 713.4, "text": " And the other big pitch is that it uses like a sixth of the power of the prior version." }, { "start": 713.4, "end": 717.56, "text": " So yeah and apparently there's a cheese grater in the box or something like that." }, { "start": 717.56, "end": 720.56, "text": " There was a big controversy to do with it." }, { "start": 720.56, "end": 722.24, "text": " I don't know what's going on there." }, { "start": 722.24, "end": 728.12, "text": " But the distinction here though is the phone blocks project on which project error is based." }, { "start": 728.12, "end": 734, "text": " And phone blocks is like the most randomly successful concept video ever." }, { "start": 734, "end": 741.5600000000001, "text": " I mean people produce these concept ideas, designs all the time." }, { "start": 741.5600000000001, "end": 744.48, "text": " Our isn't based on phone blocks." }, { "start": 744.48, "end": 749.04, "text": " Phone blocks created this concept and was building a community around it." }, { "start": 749.04, "end": 753.28, "text": " And Motorola had its own Skunkworks project and they're like oh well we should really" }, { "start": 753.28, "end": 756.76, "text": " team up with that guy because he actually knows how to talk to people and we kind of" }, { "start": 756.76, "end": 758.08, "text": " suck at it." }, { "start": 758.08, "end": 759.64, "text": " And that's the point." }, { "start": 759.64, "end": 763.0400000000001, "text": " Even though he doesn't actually have a product." }, { "start": 763.0400000000001, "end": 764.0400000000001, "text": " No he doesn't." }, { "start": 764.0400000000001, "end": 770.0600000000001, "text": " I mean his concept is just let's do this thing which is better for the world." }, { "start": 770.0600000000001, "end": 776.6, "text": " Which is also amusing because the guy, his name is Dave Hackens, I'm pretty sure his" }, { "start": 776.6, "end": 778.64, "text": " surname is Hackens, he's Dutch." }, { "start": 778.64, "end": 784.6400000000001, "text": " And it's amusing to me because it's another idealistic phone idea and there was that ethical" }, { "start": 784.64, "end": 791.04, "text": " smartphone project which I don't remember how it was done at this point but that also" }, { "start": 791.04, "end": 792.68, "text": " came from the Netherlands." }, { "start": 792.68, "end": 799.64, "text": " So people there are quite idealistic and they like the idea of doing, consuming technology" }, { "start": 799.64, "end": 805.68, "text": " in a more conscious way I guess, a more responsible way." }, { "start": 805.68, "end": 811.36, "text": " But anyhow his strength is that community and he has pretty much a million people signed" }, { "start": 811.36, "end": 818.6, "text": " up, they took part in this thunderclap thing where they all did an automated tweet, Facebook," }, { "start": 818.6, "end": 825.24, "text": " Tumblr message at the same time, synchronize it so everybody could hear about it and their" }, { "start": 825.24, "end": 831.6, "text": " reach is estimated at something like 370, 380 million people in terms of friends, family," }, { "start": 831.6, "end": 834.44, "text": " whoever else can read their social messages." }, { "start": 834.44, "end": 836.44, "text": " So that's a big distinction." }, { "start": 836.44, "end": 842.9200000000001, "text": " This isn't just like Samsung, we're going to take a big moonshot of this, it is right," }, { "start": 842.9200000000001, "end": 848.2800000000001, "text": " but there's a community of people who are interested at least." }, { "start": 848.2800000000001, "end": 855.36, "text": " I mean we've been spending the past 15 minutes saying all the reasons this is kind of not" }, { "start": 855.36, "end": 861.4000000000001, "text": " going to work but I feel like, I mean I do, some of us want to see if they can pull this" }, { "start": 861.4000000000001, "end": 862.4000000000001, "text": " off." }, { "start": 862.4000000000001, "end": 865.5600000000001, "text": " I'm actually genuinely interested to see if like…" }, { "start": 865.56, "end": 871.64, "text": " With the compromises in there that like if you can make something interesting and cool" }, { "start": 871.64, "end": 875.2399999999999, "text": " that actually like rethinks how to make a phone." }, { "start": 875.2399999999999, "end": 879.1999999999999, "text": " That's genuinely interesting to me and I don't want to just like completely dismiss" }, { "start": 879.1999999999999, "end": 880.1999999999999, "text": " it out of hand." }, { "start": 880.1999999999999, "end": 886.04, "text": " If Motorola is willing, by Motorola I mean Google, is willing to toss a bunch of money" }, { "start": 886.04, "end": 888.68, "text": " at this idea, let them." }, { "start": 888.68, "end": 892.8399999999999, "text": " I mean that's the point I was going to get at is that like if there's any company that's" }, { "start": 892.84, "end": 896.6, "text": " out there right now that is in a position to do this and has the backing to do this" }, { "start": 896.6, "end": 901.24, "text": " and try this and either waste a whole lot of money or be wildly successful with it and" }, { "start": 901.24, "end": 903.9200000000001, "text": " waste a whole lot of time or not, it's Motorola and Google." }, { "start": 903.9200000000001, "end": 908.12, "text": " They're the ones that are going to ride this out and put the investment in." }, { "start": 908.12, "end": 912.24, "text": " So if anybody is going to be trying it, Motorola is probably the right company to be trying" }, { "start": 912.24, "end": 913.24, "text": " it." }, { "start": 913.24, "end": 917.8000000000001, "text": " And there's another thing to mention here which is that that concept video just got" }, { "start": 917.8000000000001, "end": 921.5400000000001, "text": " a ton of interest from companies and Motorola weren't the only ones who were interested." }, { "start": 921.54, "end": 930.5, "text": " So Nokia, Intel, Qualcomm, ZTE, Ubuntu and Firefox all had conversations with the guy" }, { "start": 930.5, "end": 934.7199999999999, "text": " and they were all interested in contributing and his vision is something – he also spoke" }, { "start": 934.7199999999999, "end": 941.9599999999999, "text": " to Sennheiser and his vision is something like Sennheiser producing speaker modules," }, { "start": 941.9599999999999, "end": 944.76, "text": " camera companies producing camera modules, etc." }, { "start": 944.76, "end": 947.8399999999999, "text": " The idea is that this would be an open platform." }, { "start": 947.84, "end": 952.2800000000001, "text": " Google's pitch is also that it's trying to do for hardware what Android did for software" }, { "start": 952.2800000000001, "end": 957.5600000000001, "text": " which would be absolutely amazing if it does actually pan out." }, { "start": 957.5600000000001, "end": 960.6800000000001, "text": " So the potential is there." }, { "start": 960.6800000000001, "end": 962.1600000000001, "text": " We just need everybody to play ball." }, { "start": 962.1600000000001, "end": 963.76, "text": " Yeah, everybody just get on board." }, { "start": 963.76, "end": 965.32, "text": " Sell your phone, buy an Aura." }, { "start": 965.32, "end": 967, "text": " It'll be great." }, { "start": 967, "end": 968, "text": " No worries." }, { "start": 968, "end": 969, "text": " Chris just took one." }, { "start": 969, "end": 972.48, "text": " If it was an Aura, I would sell my phone." }, { "start": 972.48, "end": 976.9200000000001, "text": " How could you like the Aura but not the Aura or the era?" }, { "start": 976.92, "end": 982.3199999999999, "text": " The Aura was undeniably cool." }, { "start": 982.3199999999999, "end": 985.4799999999999, "text": " Maybe it's Aura like pirate, like arr." }, { "start": 985.4799999999999, "end": 986.9599999999999, "text": " Aura." }, { "start": 986.9599999999999, "end": 992.4399999999999, "text": " The advice to you is don't put your computer on top of a bunch of boxes because it's" }, { "start": 992.4399999999999, "end": 995.36, "text": " really the worst." }, { "start": 995.36, "end": 997.4399999999999, "text": " You know who shouldn't try and make a phone like this is Nokia." }, { "start": 997.4399999999999, "end": 998.56, "text": " That was the worst transition ever." }, { "start": 998.56, "end": 1001.88, "text": " I don't care." }, { "start": 1001.88, "end": 1003.68, "text": " So they got the other quarterly results." }, { "start": 1003.68, "end": 1009.8, "text": " They sold a bunch of Lumias but they actually managed to eke out a profit." }, { "start": 1009.8, "end": 1013.5999999999999, "text": " What's important is instead of just a bunch of Lumias, they sold more Lumias in the US" }, { "start": 1013.5999999999999, "end": 1015.7199999999999, "text": " than they've ever sold before." }, { "start": 1015.7199999999999, "end": 1016.7199999999999, "text": " Significantly more." }, { "start": 1016.7199999999999, "end": 1019.4799999999999, "text": " Just in time." }, { "start": 1019.4799999999999, "end": 1020.4799999999999, "text": " Good for them." }, { "start": 1020.4799999999999, "end": 1027.3999999999999, "text": " But we're still talking, how many in the US did they sell?" }, { "start": 1027.3999999999999, "end": 1032.2, "text": " It was double and if I remember correctly it was like 600k the last quarter so that" }, { "start": 1032.2, "end": 1034.16, "text": " means 1.2 million." }, { "start": 1034.16, "end": 1035.72, "text": " Now I have to read the article to find out." }, { "start": 1035.72, "end": 1038.24, "text": " Double is not nothing." }, { "start": 1038.24, "end": 1041.68, "text": " But you know, we'll see." }, { "start": 1041.68, "end": 1042.68, "text": " We'll see if it matters." }, { "start": 1042.68, "end": 1043.68, "text": " I mean it's sort of like…" }, { "start": 1043.68, "end": 1048.2, "text": " I'm probably being slow on my fact check." }, { "start": 1048.2, "end": 1055.2, "text": " And then they also of course announced a bunch of devices and we've talked about the tablet" }, { "start": 1055.2, "end": 1057.48, "text": " which looks fine." }, { "start": 1057.48, "end": 1060.48, "text": " 1.4 million in the US." }, { "start": 1060.48, "end": 1061.48, "text": " North America." }, { "start": 1061.48, "end": 1066.1200000000001, "text": " Oh, so it's all Canadians." }, { "start": 1066.1200000000001, "end": 1070.04, "text": " I mean look, they can't buy Blackberries anymore, they've got to go somewhere." }, { "start": 1070.04, "end": 1076.88, "text": " Come on man, I'm not allowed to make fun of Blackberry or Canadians now?" }, { "start": 1076.88, "end": 1083.48, "text": " The bone zone is the tro zone today man, come on." }, { "start": 1083.48, "end": 1085.04, "text": " Hey Chris." }, { "start": 1085.04, "end": 1086.04, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 1086.04, "end": 1090.04, "text": " Buy us your phone." }, { "start": 1090.04, "end": 1094.6, "text": " Sure, why not." }, { "start": 1094.6, "end": 1099.12, "text": " So how about the Lumia 1520?" }, { "start": 1099.12, "end": 1100.44, "text": " So I got to play with it." }, { "start": 1100.44, "end": 1103, "text": " Yeah, I have not touched it yet." }, { "start": 1103, "end": 1104.56, "text": " It's so massive." }, { "start": 1104.56, "end": 1110.32, "text": " I got to see the glossy red version which is not only like massive but it's also massive" }, { "start": 1110.32, "end": 1114.12, "text": " and slippery." }, { "start": 1114.12, "end": 1116.92, "text": " So here's the question, there are…" }, { "start": 1116.92, "end": 1120.72, "text": " I mean it's a 6 inch phone so it's going to be big no matter what but there are phones" }, { "start": 1120.72, "end": 1125.44, "text": " that seem like magically smaller than they have a right to feel based on their screen" }, { "start": 1125.44, "end": 1130.2, "text": " size so like the Moto X is a really good example of it feels like a smaller phone even though" }, { "start": 1130.2, "end": 1133.6000000000001, "text": " it's got I think it's a 4.7 on the Moto X." }, { "start": 1133.6000000000001, "end": 1137.16, "text": " Compared to other 4.7 it's way smaller." }, { "start": 1137.16, "end": 1138.16, "text": " And the LG G2." }, { "start": 1138.16, "end": 1140.44, "text": " Yeah, LG G2, another good example." }, { "start": 1140.44, "end": 1142.3200000000002, "text": " But then the HTC Max just feels big." }, { "start": 1142.3200000000002, "end": 1143.76, "text": " So like does this feel…" }, { "start": 1143.76, "end": 1144.76, "text": " This sounds so stupid." }, { "start": 1144.76, "end": 1145.96, "text": " I'm going to say it." }, { "start": 1145.96, "end": 1147.3600000000001, "text": " I'm saying something stupid right now." }, { "start": 1147.3600000000001, "end": 1150.64, "text": " Does this feel like a big 6 inch phone?" }, { "start": 1150.64, "end": 1155.92, "text": " I just want to know." }, { "start": 1155.92, "end": 1162.24, "text": " I'm trying to formulate a response to this." }, { "start": 1162.24, "end": 1167.4, "text": " You know it's not the size of the screen that matters." }, { "start": 1167.4, "end": 1168.4, "text": " There we go." }, { "start": 1168.4, "end": 1169.4, "text": " It feels very large." }, { "start": 1169.4, "end": 1170.4, "text": " That is absolutely true." }, { "start": 1170.4, "end": 1171.4, "text": " It's not about the size of the screen." }, { "start": 1171.4, "end": 1180.16, "text": " But yeah, it's what you do with it and what Nokia did with it was make it feel bigger" }, { "start": 1180.16, "end": 1185.68, "text": " than any other smartphone I've used except for I guess the Galaxy Mega is the only thing" }, { "start": 1185.68, "end": 1189.16, "text": " I can compare it to which I think is 6.3 inches or something." }, { "start": 1189.16, "end": 1193.52, "text": " But it's really big and it's not easy to use one handed at all." }, { "start": 1193.52, "end": 1195.96, "text": " It's not even easy to hold on to one handed." }, { "start": 1195.96, "end": 1200.72, "text": " I'm just going to roll with this innuendos be damned." }, { "start": 1200.72, "end": 1205.68, "text": " And the thing is, Microsoft is doing stuff with Windows Phone 8 to take advantage of" }, { "start": 1205.68, "end": 1211.68, "text": " that screen size by giving you an extra column on your home screen and the native apps are" }, { "start": 1211.68, "end": 1214.32, "text": " showing more of your emails and all that other fun stuff." }, { "start": 1214.32, "end": 1218.16, "text": " But I'm still, we still haven't seen and I didn't get a chance to use it long enough" }, { "start": 1218.16, "end": 1222.24, "text": " to actually test this out with third party apps but how are these third party apps going" }, { "start": 1222.24, "end": 1224.96, "text": " to scale to a 6 inch screen?" }, { "start": 1224.96, "end": 1226.44, "text": " Is there going to be a ton of white space?" }, { "start": 1226.44, "end": 1230.2, "text": " Are the big headers just going to be bigger?" }, { "start": 1230.2, "end": 1231.4, "text": " You know and things like that." }, { "start": 1231.4, "end": 1234, "text": " So I'm not sure how well it works in practice." }, { "start": 1234, "end": 1239.04, "text": " I will say that the screen is typically great for Nokias." }, { "start": 1239.04, "end": 1242.0800000000002, "text": " It's got great colors and viewing angles and everything like that." }, { "start": 1242.0800000000002, "end": 1244.3600000000001, "text": " The build quality is really great." }, { "start": 1244.3600000000001, "end": 1245.56, "text": " You know the phone is really fast." }, { "start": 1245.56, "end": 1252.8400000000001, "text": " It's the first Windows Phone to use the quad core Snapdragon 800 processor so it flies" }, { "start": 1252.8400000000001, "end": 1255.88, "text": " at least in the brief time I got to use it." }, { "start": 1255.88, "end": 1260.18, "text": " But it's just a really big phone and there's nothing really differentiating it from the" }, { "start": 1260.18, "end": 1263.92, "text": " rest of the Windows Phone line up other than it's a really big phone." }, { "start": 1263.92, "end": 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taken said which tells you that it really works." }, { "start": 1336.1200000000001, "end": 1339.98, "text": " There was some Motorola phone from like 2005 or 2006 that did it." }, { "start": 1339.98, "end": 1347.44, "text": " I can't remember the model number but it's probably the first one that matters." }, { "start": 1347.44, "end": 1349.64, "text": " Yeah kind of matters." }, { "start": 1349.64, "end": 1355.2, "text": " But also a really nice feature that Nokia is adding to its peer view camera is this" }, { "start": 1355.2, "end": 1359.64, "text": " Nokia refocus thing which everybody went kind of wild about." }, { "start": 1359.64, "end": 1363.56, "text": " And it reproduces the effects of the light rail camera." }, { "start": 1363.56, "end": 1367.16, "text": " It doesn't refocus your picture after it's taken." }, { "start": 1367.16, "end": 1372.72, "text": " It takes a series of photos at different focus at different distances." }, { "start": 1372.72, "end": 1378.3400000000001, "text": " So then you can take the eventual kind of like composite photo and then tap and it feels" }, { "start": 1378.3400000000001, "end": 1384.8400000000001, "text": " to you like you're tapping to refocus a picture you've already taken which is nice." }, { "start": 1384.8400000000001, "end": 1388.26, "text": " I got to demo that and that was pretty cool." }, { "start": 1388.26, "end": 1389.26, "text": " How exactly does it work?" }, { "start": 1389.26, "end": 1391, "text": " Does it just take a bunch of photos?" }, { "start": 1391, "end": 1394.16, "text": " It's like HDR, it takes a burst of photos." }, { "start": 1394.16, "end": 1398.24, "text": " And then at different focus points and then it stitches them together and the end result" }, { "start": 1398.24, "end": 1399.8000000000002, "text": " you get to interact with." }, { "start": 1399.8000000000002, "end": 1403.44, "text": " And that worked really well in the demos that Nokia showed me." }, { "start": 1403.44, "end": 1405, "text": " It was a really cool feature." }, { "start": 1405, "end": 1407.64, "text": " I don't know how shareable that is." }, { "start": 1407.64, "end": 1411.76, "text": " I guess if they put like some sort of hosting or something you can send somebody a link" }, { "start": 1411.76, "end": 1413.1200000000001, "text": " and they can click around on it." }, { "start": 1413.1200000000001, "end": 1419.0400000000002, "text": " But the same problem with light rail images, they're not really shareable." }, { "start": 1419.04, "end": 1426.12, "text": " And the other camera features that Nokia introduced, they combined the smart camera and pro camera" }, { "start": 1426.12, "end": 1430.32, "text": " app which they should have done from the get go." }, { "start": 1430.32, "end": 1433.8, "text": " That's one app and hopefully they do the same with all of their maps apps." }, { "start": 1433.8, "end": 1438.96, "text": " I was just about to say maps app is insane to me." }, { "start": 1438.96, 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"end": 1468.72, "text": " Why make it a separate app?" }, { "start": 1468.72, "end": 1472.16, "text": " Just put it in the app." }, { "start": 1472.16, "end": 1473.16, "text": " Whatever." }, { "start": 1473.16, "end": 1478.5600000000002, "text": " The funny thing is that the new recombined Nokia camera app is actually just called Nokia" }, { "start": 1478.5600000000002, "end": 1479.5600000000002, "text": " camera." }, { "start": 1479.5600000000002, "end": 1483.76, "text": " And all the other apps that Nokia has customized are called Nokia whatever, Nokia Drive, Nokia" }, { "start": 1483.76, "end": 1484.76, "text": " Music etc." }, { "start": 1484.76, "end": 1489.16, "text": " So it's going to be interesting how Microsoft uses that." }, { "start": 1489.16, "end": 1494.8400000000001, "text": " Will it still remain and retain the Nokia branding as that software team continues working" }, { "start": 1494.8400000000001, "end": 1499.28, "text": " on those things or does it rebrand into something more Microsofty?" }, { "start": 1499.28, "end": 1501.28, "text": " Windows camera." }, { "start": 1501.28, "end": 1505.68, "text": " Windows phone 8.1 camera." }, { "start": 1505.68, "end": 1507.28, "text": " Windows maps pro edition." }, { "start": 1507.28, "end": 1511.12, "text": " Windows phone 8.1 camera series." }, { "start": 1511.12, "end": 1518.04, "text": " So along with the 1520 Nokia also announced the 1320 which is like another big phone," }, { "start": 1518.04, "end": 1522.04, "text": " it's just a cheaper version, lower res display, slower processor, lower in camera, lower in" }, { "start": 1522.04, "end": 1523.04, "text": " memory." }, { "start": 1523.04, "end": 1524.72, "text": " But it's still a big ass six inch screen right?" }, { "start": 1524.72, "end": 1527.68, "text": " It's still a big ass six inch screen but the thing is I don't think we're going to really" }, { "start": 1527.68, "end": 1530.52, "text": " see that in the west." }, { "start": 1530.52, "end": 1534.92, "text": " I think that Nokia is specifically building that for emerging markets where there is a" }, { "start": 1534.92, "end": 1539.56, "text": " big fascination with the big screens that we've seen Samsung's had great success with" }, { "start": 1539.56, "end": 1544.84, "text": " and the customer that is looking for something that replaces both a smartphone and a tablet" }, { "start": 1544.84, "end": 1547.6399999999999, "text": " and maybe even their laptop if they don't have a laptop." }, { "start": 1547.6399999999999, "end": 1550.42, "text": " So I think that's exactly what they're targeting with that." }, { "start": 1550.42, "end": 1555.24, "text": " And then the other thing that I wanted to mention is that the 1520 is an AT&T exclusive" }, { "start": 1555.24, "end": 1556.96, "text": " here in the US." }, { "start": 1556.96, "end": 1558.92, "text": " And the 2520, their big tablet." }, { "start": 1558.92, "end": 1564.44, "text": " So like Nokia is doing the same old song and dance with the carriers." }, { "start": 1564.44, "end": 1567.16, "text": " Actually I don't think the tablet is an exclusive." }, { "start": 1567.16, "end": 1569.52, "text": " Tom Warren found it with Verizon branding over there." }, { "start": 1569.52, "end": 1573.92, "text": " So even if there's any exclusivity going on it might be just a limited period." }, { "start": 1573.92, "end": 1580.16, "text": " Oh yeah, I see our post says that AT&T will sell the 2520." }, { "start": 1580.16, "end": 1582.6000000000001, "text": " But the 1520 is an exclusive." }, { "start": 1582.6, "end": 1589.52, "text": " So AT&T is going to sell 85% of its smartphones as iPhones and then Nokia gets to duke it" }, { "start": 1589.52, "end": 1593.1599999999999, "text": " out with Samsung for the other 15%." }, { "start": 1593.1599999999999, "end": 1599.1599999999999, "text": " The 1320 is kind of – like it and the Galaxy Mega are interesting to me that we're seeing" }, { "start": 1599.1599999999999, "end": 1602.6399999999999, "text": " big ass phones at the mid-range now." }, { "start": 1602.6399999999999, "end": 1607.24, "text": " That big ass is no longer the exclusive domain of like high end stuff." }, { "start": 1607.24, "end": 1614.04, "text": " Weird to me." }, { "start": 1614.04, "end": 1617, "text": " It's weird to me that somebody would buy a giant phone that is kind of –" }, { "start": 1617, "end": 1622.1200000000001, "text": " Who sent a detail just now because your microphone just –" }, { "start": 1622.1200000000001, "end": 1624.72, "text": " It just stopped and then started again." }, { "start": 1624.72, "end": 1625.72, "text": " Really?" }, { "start": 1625.72, "end": 1626.72, "text": " What did I do?" }, { "start": 1626.72, "end": 1627.72, "text": " Nothing." }, { "start": 1627.72, "end": 1628.98, "text": " It was a really smart thing I said." }, { "start": 1628.98, "end": 1629.98, "text": " Just assume –" }, { "start": 1629.98, "end": 1632.72, "text": " You're probably talking on a visor phone." }, { "start": 1632.72, "end": 1637.92, "text": " Finally got a chance to send it back." }, { "start": 1637.92, "end": 1638.92, "text": " There you go." }, { "start": 1638.92, "end": 1639.92, "text": " Thank you very much for that." }, { "start": 1639.92, "end": 1640.92, "text": " You're a clever man." }, { "start": 1640.92, "end": 1644.72, "text": " I don't know, is there anything else with Nokia?" }, { "start": 1644.72, "end": 1645.72, "text": " Not really." }, { "start": 1645.72, "end": 1654.16, "text": " I mean we should actually talk about Nexus because Google just wants us to see it." }, { "start": 1654.16, "end": 1656.2, "text": " They want us to see it so badly." }, { "start": 1656.2, "end": 1660.84, "text": " This is deja vu of the Nexus 4 last year." }, { "start": 1660.84, "end": 1664.56, "text": " The same exact thing happened with the Nexus 4 except the Nexus 4 got to the point where" }, { "start": 1664.56, "end": 1668.6399999999999, "text": " a Russian website actually reviewed the phone a week ago." }, { "start": 1668.6399999999999, "end": 1671.86, "text": " Do you know this is a struggle." }, { "start": 1671.86, "end": 1677.36, "text": " We actually had somebody in our forums saying, okay, so who thinks the Virgin like completely" }, { "start": 1677.36, "end": 1682.28, "text": " under NDA and they've been told to shut up by Google until the event happens, right?" }, { "start": 1682.28, "end": 1684.1599999999999, "text": " They think there's this big conspiracy." }, { "start": 1684.1599999999999, "end": 1687.32, "text": " Then everybody else replied, well, hang on a second." }, { "start": 1687.32, "end": 1691.48, "text": " What is there that's actually left to leak and to cover about this phone?" }, { "start": 1691.48, "end": 1692.48, "text": " Do you want the specs?" }, { "start": 1692.48, "end": 1693.48, "text": " Do you have them?" }, { "start": 1693.48, "end": 1694.48, "text": " Do you want pictures?" }, { "start": 1694.48, "end": 1695.48, "text": " Do you have them?" }, { "start": 1695.48, "end": 1696.48, "text": " Video?" }, { "start": 1696.48, "end": 1697.48, "text": " You got it." }, { "start": 1697.48, "end": 1698.48, "text": " Price?" }, { "start": 1698.48, "end": 1699.48, "text": " You got the version number, everything." }, { "start": 1699.48, "end": 1703.04, "text": " You got the URL on the Google Play Store where you're going to be able to pre-order and" }, { "start": 1703.04, "end": 1706.8, "text": " buy it because Google leaked it." }, { "start": 1706.8, "end": 1711.6, "text": " You can write your buy script right now that will click the buy button for you and make" }, { "start": 1711.6, "end": 1716.1599999999999, "text": " sure that you get a unit before it sells out." }, { "start": 1716.16, "end": 1723.92, "text": " Speaking of that buy script, $349 for the 16 gig version, I had this creeping fear that" }, { "start": 1723.92, "end": 1726.94, "text": " it was going to be expensive again." }, { "start": 1726.94, "end": 1732.6000000000001, "text": " Not again, but more expensive than the Nexus 4 simply because they're adding LTE and God," }, { "start": 1732.6000000000001, "end": 1735.6000000000001, "text": " I hope a better camera." }, { "start": 1735.6000000000001, "end": 1737.76, "text": " But it looks like they're managing to keep it cheap." }, { "start": 1737.76, "end": 1743.0400000000002, "text": " So now the pendulum swings back the other way and is it going to be cheap build quality" }, { "start": 1743.0400000000002, "end": 1745.8000000000002, "text": " or is the camera going to suck?" }, { "start": 1745.8, "end": 1747.84, "text": " Is what I'm worried about now." }, { "start": 1747.84, "end": 1750, "text": " My biggest concern is the camera sucking." }, { "start": 1750, "end": 1755.08, "text": " The Nexus 4 had fine build quality, it's poor design decisions aside." }, { "start": 1755.08, "end": 1759.6, "text": " The build quality wasn't really an issue and the speed wasn't an issue and in my opinion" }, { "start": 1759.6, "end": 1763.04, "text": " the screen wasn't an issue, though I know you guys disagree." }, { "start": 1763.04, "end": 1767.28, "text": " But the camera sucked and battery life sucked." }, { "start": 1767.28, "end": 1772.1599999999999, "text": " Those are my two big concerns with the Nexus 5 is we don't really know how either of those" }, { "start": 1772.1599999999999, "end": 1774.8799999999999, "text": " are going to play out until we actually have our hands on it." }, { "start": 1774.88, "end": 1780.2800000000002, "text": " At least numerically, at least on a spec sheet, appear to be downgrades from the LG G2 which" }, { "start": 1780.2800000000002, "end": 1781.68, "text": " is what this phone is based on." }, { "start": 1781.68, "end": 1785.7600000000002, "text": " I'm going to say now that I've spent a bit more time with the G2, it's my favorite phone" }, { "start": 1785.7600000000002, "end": 1786.7600000000002, "text": " at the moment." }, { "start": 1786.7600000000002, "end": 1789.0400000000002, "text": " There's so many good things about it." }, { "start": 1789.0400000000002, "end": 1790.0400000000002, "text": " But the camera…" }, { "start": 1790.0400000000002, "end": 1793.8000000000002, "text": " Wait, wait, wait, Vlad, before you can continue, can I see your home screen of the G2 that" }, { "start": 1793.8000000000002, "end": 1796.7600000000002, "text": " has a shortcut to Peter Chow on the home screen?" }, { "start": 1796.7600000000002, "end": 1797.7600000000002, "text": " Well it's gone now." }, { "start": 1797.7600000000002, "end": 1798.7600000000002, "text": " I didn't actually keep it." }, { "start": 1798.76, "end": 1805.56, "text": " You should have made all of your icons Peter Chow." }, { "start": 1805.56, "end": 1809.12, "text": " One day, maybe on Halloween." }, { "start": 1809.12, "end": 1812.68, "text": " See now I'm offending Peter Chow completely unintentionally." }, { "start": 1812.68, "end": 1813.68, "text": " But I do have custom icons." }, { "start": 1813.68, "end": 1814.68, "text": " Look, I've done this." }, { "start": 1814.68, "end": 1820.08, "text": " I've got randomly colored sky drop box and then it's not focusing." }, { "start": 1820.08, "end": 1824.32, "text": " Man, are you angling for a job at Samsung with those design decisions?" }, { "start": 1824.32, "end": 1825.32, "text": " No, HCC." }, { "start": 1825.32, "end": 1827.5, "text": " Look, this is how you flirt with Peter Chow." }, { "start": 1827.5, "end": 1832.72, "text": " You show a picture of him, you celebrate his presence and then you say I can turn sense" }, { "start": 1832.72, "end": 1833.72, "text": " around." }, { "start": 1833.72, "end": 1834.72, "text": " Just give me a shot." }, { "start": 1834.72, "end": 1839.88, "text": " Look at this amazing work I've done." }, { "start": 1839.88, "end": 1843.36, "text": " On the LG G2." }, { "start": 1843.36, "end": 1847.92, "text": " So the 8 megapixel doesn't scare me on the Nexus 5." }, { "start": 1847.92, "end": 1852, "text": " It also, the rumored spec is that it's got optical image stabilization." }, { "start": 1852, "end": 1857.2, "text": " And we have seen photos that were sensibly taken from it leak on Flickr and they looked" }, { "start": 1857.2, "end": 1858.2, "text": " fine." }, { "start": 1858.2, "end": 1860.56, "text": " Yeah, it looked okay." }, { "start": 1860.56, "end": 1864.48, "text": " But they were still objects in moderate to decent lighting." }, { "start": 1864.48, "end": 1867.04, "text": " Right, that's the thing." }, { "start": 1867.04, "end": 1870.8, "text": " Battery is actually the thing that worries me because the 3000 mAh battery in the G2" }, { "start": 1870.8, "end": 1871.8, "text": " is nice." }, { "start": 1871.8, "end": 1875.4, "text": " I don't want to let go of that." }, { "start": 1875.4, "end": 1878.88, "text": " The rumored battery on this is what, 2300 I want to say?" }, { "start": 1878.88, "end": 1879.88, "text": " 2400 I think." }, { "start": 1879.88, "end": 1880.88, "text": " 2300 I think." }, { "start": 1880.88, "end": 1888.16, "text": " I'm getting a fact check from our producer says 2300 is right." }, { "start": 1888.16, "end": 1889.16, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 1889.16, "end": 1893.4, "text": " See I mean what are we going to talk about next week?" }, { "start": 1893.4, "end": 1894.4, "text": " Like it's going to be announced." }, { "start": 1894.4, "end": 1898.2, "text": " We're going to be like hey the Nexus 5, you know that thing we talked about last week?" }, { "start": 1898.2, "end": 1899.5600000000002, "text": " It's exactly what we're going to talk about." }, { "start": 1899.5600000000002, "end": 1906, "text": " Well maybe we'll have actually used it by then and we can give some impressions." }, { "start": 1906, "end": 1909.96, "text": " Maybe Chris will have something to say then as well." }, { "start": 1909.96, "end": 1911.8400000000001, "text": " Chris is obviously on their NDA." }, { "start": 1911.8400000000001, "end": 1919.88, "text": " So Google has not announced an event or date or anything like that obviously and the rumors" }, { "start": 1919.88, "end": 1924.72, "text": " have put it as happening before the end of October which is swiftly running out." }, { "start": 1924.72, "end": 1927.76, "text": " Yeah, it's the 29th." }, { "start": 1927.76, "end": 1930.72, "text": " Halloween, Halloween event." }, { "start": 1930.72, "end": 1935.64, "text": " How are they going to, if it is 349 how are they going to position it against the Google" }, { "start": 1935.64, "end": 1939.8400000000001, "text": " Play editions which are like twice as much?" }, { "start": 1939.84, "end": 1941.72, "text": " I think you just answered your own question." }, { "start": 1941.72, "end": 1944.8799999999999, "text": " They're not worried about the Google Play editions selling." }, { "start": 1944.8799999999999, "end": 1946.1599999999999, "text": " I mean they really don't care." }, { "start": 1946.1599999999999, "end": 1953.9199999999998, "text": " I think they made the Google Play editions to throw a bone to the like hardcore enthusiasts" }, { "start": 1953.9199999999998, "end": 1956.1999999999998, "text": " who are really disappointed with the Nexus 4." }, { "start": 1956.1999999999998, "end": 1961.9199999999998, "text": " They got tired of reading me complaining about bootloaders so you have me to thank for the" }, { "start": 1961.9199999999998, "end": 1962.9199999999998, "text": " …" }, { "start": 1962.9199999999998, "end": 1968.4399999999998, "text": " So wait, are you guys suggesting that with the release of the Nexus 5 the Google Play" }, { "start": 1968.44, "end": 1969.88, "text": " editions will go away?" }, { "start": 1969.88, "end": 1971.04, "text": " No I don't think so." }, { "start": 1971.04, "end": 1972.52, "text": " I think they'll just…" }, { "start": 1972.52, "end": 1976.16, "text": " They'll continue not selling it for $650 or whatever they are?" }, { "start": 1976.16, "end": 1980.76, "text": " They'll continue not selling it for $650 and I mean I'll lay down a $5 bet that they" }, { "start": 1980.76, "end": 1985.6000000000001, "text": " will not get the next update as quickly as they got the last one." }, { "start": 1985.6000000000001, "end": 1986.6000000000001, "text": " It will take them longer to get it." }, { "start": 1986.6000000000001, "end": 1988.4, "text": " I'll be really bummed." }, { "start": 1988.4, "end": 1992.78, "text": " As an owner of an HTC One Google Play edition I'll be really bummed." }, { "start": 1992.78, "end": 1996.64, "text": " Especially since Google said as much that it would be getting updates rapidly etc." }, { "start": 1996.64, "end": 1999.2, "text": " Yeah but you're not using that phone right?" }, { "start": 1999.2, "end": 2001.5600000000002, "text": " You're on a 5S." }, { "start": 2001.5600000000002, "end": 2004.96, "text": " Listen Chris." }, { "start": 2004.96, "end": 2011.74, "text": " The HTC One Google Play edition is an excellent alarm clock and it's excellent for checking" }, { "start": 2011.74, "end": 2017, "text": " on app updates and it's got a great build quality." }, { "start": 2017, "end": 2020.4, "text": " That metal feel, that cold metal feel in your hand when you're waking up at 6 in the morning" }, { "start": 2020.4, "end": 2024.96, "text": " to silence the alarm is very effective at waking you up." }, { "start": 2024.96, "end": 2028.8600000000001, "text": " The other thing that surprised me, so today there was this Google Plus event where they" }, { "start": 2028.8600000000001, "end": 2032.3600000000001, "text": " showed off Hangouts on Air and a bunch of photo stuff and they also announced a bunch" }, { "start": 2032.3600000000001, "end": 2039.3600000000001, "text": " of Hangouts updates so location sharing, animated GIFs and SMS support." }, { "start": 2039.3600000000001, "end": 2043.76, "text": " Now of course we've seen leaks of KitKat that don't have the messaging app on the" }, { "start": 2043.76, "end": 2046.28, "text": " home screen so maybe this is part of that." }, { "start": 2046.28, "end": 2051.4, "text": " I expected they would wait to update the Hangouts app on Android until they announced KitKat" }, { "start": 2051.4, "end": 2056.28, "text": " but they just kind of threw that out there which is weird, interesting." }, { "start": 2056.28, "end": 2057.84, "text": " I don't know what to make of that." }, { "start": 2057.84, "end": 2059.6, "text": " It seems kind of premature." }, { "start": 2059.6, "end": 2064.7200000000003, "text": " It seems like today's Google Plus event was very focused on Google Plus and then they" }, { "start": 2064.7200000000003, "end": 2068, "text": " were like oh yeah, we're kicking these things into Hangouts for mobile too." }, { "start": 2068, "end": 2075.4, "text": " Well that's because Hangouts is this insane cross product thing." }, { "start": 2075.4, "end": 2078.8, "text": " The Hangouts on Air lives on YouTube Live but also Google Plus." }, { "start": 2078.8, "end": 2083.44, "text": " The whole thing is under the Google Plus team but it's becoming an integral part of Android" }, { "start": 2083.44, "end": 2090.76, "text": " and it has Google Voice stuff slowly getting built into it across different platforms and" }, { "start": 2090.76, "end": 2095.8, "text": " it also has just like their messaging play." }, { "start": 2095.8, "end": 2101.4, "text": " It's just this super surreal product that just lives everywhere." }, { "start": 2101.4, "end": 2102.4, "text": " What struck me…" }, { "start": 2102.4, "end": 2109.4, "text": " I'm trying to find my Chrome extension bar because the Chrome extension is the worst," }, { "start": 2109.4, "end": 2110.4, "text": " it's so bad." }, { "start": 2110.4, "end": 2115.08, "text": " The fact that it doesn't support multiple accounts still to this day drives me nuts." }, { "start": 2115.08, "end": 2118.6, "text": " It does if you create multiple Chrome profiles." }, { "start": 2118.6, "end": 2119.6, "text": " That's not a solution." }, { "start": 2119.6, "end": 2120.6, "text": " No it's not." }, { "start": 2120.6, "end": 2121.6, "text": " I've tried it." }, { "start": 2121.6, "end": 2122.6, "text": " It's really bad." }, { "start": 2122.6, "end": 2126.28, "text": " So what struck me as really funny is we knew that SMS integration was coming, Google has" }, { "start": 2126.28, "end": 2128.36, "text": " been promising this forever." }, { "start": 2128.36, "end": 2133.36, "text": " It's not an SMS service, it is just tying into the SMS that you pay for and get through" }, { "start": 2133.36, "end": 2134.88, "text": " your carrier or whatever." }, { "start": 2134.88, "end": 2139.6, "text": " But the day that Google announces it's coming to Hangouts, Facebook announces that it's" }, { "start": 2139.6, "end": 2145.08, "text": " pulling it out of Facebook Messenger for Android which I find hysterical." }, { "start": 2145.08, "end": 2151.56, "text": " Google releases an API and says hey guys KitKat is coming, if you want to be the official" }, { "start": 2151.56, "end": 2155.6800000000003, "text": " SMS app on somebody's phone you need to use this API because we're making it available" }, { "start": 2155.68, "end": 2159.3599999999997, "text": " instead of not available, instead of undocumented." }, { "start": 2159.3599999999997, "end": 2163.68, "text": " And Google says here you go and Facebook says yeah now we're done with that SMS." }, { "start": 2163.68, "end": 2168.52, "text": " I think they said it was for speed issues but the fact that Facebook says no we don't" }, { "start": 2168.52, "end": 2172.64, "text": " want to do SMS anymore, here's our new Messenger app, it's not so Facebooky on the same day" }, { "start": 2172.64, "end": 2176.9199999999996, "text": " that Google is like hey guess what you can do SMS now." }, { "start": 2176.9199999999996, "end": 2177.9199999999996, "text": " What's going on?" }, { "start": 2177.9199999999996, "end": 2182.04, "text": " According to Facebook nobody used the SMS integration in Messenger which I translate" }, { "start": 2182.04, "end": 2187.56, "text": " as reading nobody on Android is actually using Facebook's Messenger app because if I remember" }, { "start": 2187.56, "end": 2192.48, "text": " correctly when you install it, it prompts you to or enables SMS integration by default." }, { "start": 2192.48, "end": 2194.88, "text": " I think it gives you the option." }, { "start": 2194.88, "end": 2197.96, "text": " Yeah and the fact that nobody is using it probably means nobody is using the Messenger" }, { "start": 2197.96, "end": 2204.14, "text": " app which as a Facebook user who occasionally gets a message on Facebook, I've always just" }, { "start": 2204.14, "end": 2207.68, "text": " used the regular Facebook app and used the Messenger tab." }, { "start": 2207.68, "end": 2212.7599999999998, "text": " I've never felt the need to use the standalone messaging app." }, { "start": 2212.7599999999998, "end": 2214.96, "text": " Oh dude, Chethides are awesome though." }, { "start": 2214.96, "end": 2215.96, "text": " What?" }, { "start": 2215.96, "end": 2216.96, "text": " Chethides." }, { "start": 2216.96, "end": 2217.96, "text": " Chethides?" }, { "start": 2217.96, "end": 2221.96, "text": " That's what the cool kids call chat heads." }, { "start": 2221.96, "end": 2225.6, "text": " No but you get chat heads within the Facebook app right?" }, { "start": 2225.6, "end": 2226.6, "text": " Well maybe I don't know." }, { "start": 2226.6, "end": 2229.68, "text": " You do on iOS." }, { "start": 2229.68, "end": 2233.7599999999998, "text": " Within iOS it's inside the app but it's not outside but on Android you need Messenger" }, { "start": 2233.7599999999998, "end": 2236.48, "text": " in order to have Chethides everywhere." }, { "start": 2236.48, "end": 2242.44, "text": " See Chethides is what happens when Chris quietens down and let's Theta run amok." }, { "start": 2242.44, "end": 2244.16, "text": " But he is a more interesting person." }, { "start": 2244.16, "end": 2246.2, "text": " Chris is not actually sitting at his desk." }, { "start": 2246.2, "end": 2250.92, "text": " I think he has a still image in front of the camera of him and he's left." }, { "start": 2250.92, "end": 2252.84, "text": " It's like a Ferris Bueller type of thing." }, { "start": 2252.84, "end": 2256.28, "text": " Chris has left a sort of 3D print out of himself." }, { "start": 2256.28, "end": 2259.2400000000002, "text": " Or no they did that in speed right?" }, { "start": 2259.2400000000002, "end": 2263.64, "text": " Like they had a looping video to make it look like the people were still on the bus." }, { "start": 2263.64, "end": 2264.94, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2264.94, "end": 2270.08, "text": " So if this is speed that makes you Keanu Reeves." }, { "start": 2270.08, "end": 2274.52, "text": " I guess that makes Vlad Dennis Hopper." }, { "start": 2274.52, "end": 2276.28, "text": " Sounds about right." }, { "start": 2276.28, "end": 2277.28, "text": " I'm down with that." }, { "start": 2277.28, "end": 2281, "text": " Who of us is Sandra Bullock, me or Dan?" }, { "start": 2281, "end": 2283.48, "text": " I think Dan is less facial hair so we'll give that one to him." }, { "start": 2283.48, "end": 2284.8, "text": " Who's Jason Patrick?" }, { "start": 2284.8, "end": 2286.64, "text": " That's my question." }, { "start": 2286.64, "end": 2288.32, "text": " That means you're Jason Patrick Peter." }, { "start": 2288.32, "end": 2292.84, "text": " I'm just going to say that I haven't seen speed in 20 years so I can't even like answer" }, { "start": 2292.84, "end": 2293.84, "text": " this conversation." }, { "start": 2293.84, "end": 2295.92, "text": " You need to remedy that tonight." }, { "start": 2295.92, "end": 2296.92, "text": " Ditto." }, { "start": 2296.92, "end": 2301.44, "text": " But here's the other question though." }, { "start": 2301.44, "end": 2305.32, "text": " Do you feel the need to send SMS's anymore?" }, { "start": 2305.32, "end": 2306.32, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2306.32, "end": 2307.32, "text": " Every day." }, { "start": 2307.32, "end": 2308.32, "text": " All the time." }, { "start": 2308.32, "end": 2309.32, "text": " Really?" }, { "start": 2309.32, "end": 2310.32, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2310.32, "end": 2311.32, "text": " What do you use?" }, { "start": 2311.32, "end": 2312.32, "text": " Vlad do you use WhatsApp?" }, { "start": 2312.32, "end": 2315.1600000000003, "text": " I mean don't forget we're insanely fragmented over here." }, { "start": 2315.1600000000003, "end": 2319, "text": " We've got Facebook Messenger, Hangouts." }, { "start": 2319, "end": 2320, "text": " Vlad uses BBM." }, { "start": 2320, "end": 2321, "text": " BBM I forgot about." }, { "start": 2321, "end": 2322, "text": " We need to talk about BBM." }, { "start": 2322, "end": 2323, "text": " Nobody talks about BBM." }, { "start": 2323, "end": 2324, "text": " No we do not." }, { "start": 2324, "end": 2325, "text": " Oh my god." }, { "start": 2325, "end": 2326, "text": " Because I am an active user." }, { "start": 2326, "end": 2327, "text": " Oh no I was right." }, { "start": 2327, "end": 2332, "text": " I was kidding but I was actually right." }, { "start": 2332, "end": 2333.76, "text": " Vlad and I are actually BBM buddies." }, { "start": 2333.76, "end": 2337.16, "text": " We sent one message back and forth." }, { "start": 2337.16, "end": 2340.6, "text": " Dan is my first BBM friend ever." }, { "start": 2340.6, "end": 2345.12, "text": " I'm just going to say, I'm going to take it to the side." }, { "start": 2345.12, "end": 2346.6, "text": " No ever Dan, ever." }, { "start": 2346.6, "end": 2347.6, "text": " This was my first experience with BBM." }, { "start": 2347.6, "end": 2352.24, "text": " No I'm just saying that it's 2013 and I am now your first BBM friend." }, { "start": 2352.24, "end": 2358.4799999999996, "text": " That's right but there is something about BBM, something intangible which is it struggles" }, { "start": 2358.4799999999996, "end": 2363.8799999999997, "text": " so mightily to handle the very basic thing of sending a message back and forth." }, { "start": 2363.8799999999997, "end": 2368.8399999999997, "text": " It makes such a big ordeal out of it that it feels precious." }, { "start": 2368.8399999999997, "end": 2374.64, "text": " If you get one of those really smooth, immediate, awesome messaging services where everything" }, { "start": 2374.64, "end": 2377.2, "text": " moves too quickly, you don't appreciate it." }, { "start": 2377.2, "end": 2382.3999999999996, "text": " BBM, you just kind of feel like there are these little people behind the scenes just" }, { "start": 2382.3999999999996, "end": 2387.48, "text": " struggling to type out your message, carve it in stone and then send it over to the other" }, { "start": 2387.48, "end": 2389.04, "text": " person and just present it." }, { "start": 2389.04, "end": 2393.6, "text": " Then you get that read receipt and you're like yes, I sent something across the ocean." }, { "start": 2393.6, "end": 2394.6, "text": " I achieved something." }, { "start": 2394.6, "end": 2400.48, "text": " Basically what you're saying is BBM is the Harold and Kumar go to White Castle of messaging" }, { "start": 2400.48, "end": 2401.48, "text": " services." }, { "start": 2401.48, "end": 2406.7999999999997, "text": " It's so much effort to get it that even though it's kind of crappy, it's amazing." }, { "start": 2406.8, "end": 2407.8, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 2407.8, "end": 2408.8, "text": " Yeah, basically." }, { "start": 2408.8, "end": 2409.8, "text": " It's a journey." }, { "start": 2409.8, "end": 2410.8, "text": " It's about the journey." }, { "start": 2410.8, "end": 2420.6000000000004, "text": " Do you guys like it that you can see me reaching up to use my mouse while I'm over here chatting?" }, { "start": 2420.6000000000004, "end": 2423.8, "text": " In any case, yes, I use SMS all the time." }, { "start": 2423.8, "end": 2428.44, "text": " I will say that when I'm using an iPhone, I use it far less because my circle of friends" }, { "start": 2428.44, "end": 2432.28, "text": " and relatives all have iPhones so it just defaults to iMessage there." }, { "start": 2432.28, "end": 2435.2000000000003, "text": " When I'm not using an iPhone, it's all SMS to them." }, { "start": 2435.2, "end": 2437, "text": " They're not going to go sign up for a different service." }, { "start": 2437, "end": 2440.64, "text": " When you switch away from the iPhone, do you remember to turn off iMessage every time?" }, { "start": 2440.64, "end": 2446.64, "text": " I never do lose messages so I've sworn off of iMessage completely." }, { "start": 2446.64, "end": 2449.72, "text": " It bit me once or twice and I now remember to do it." }, { "start": 2449.72, "end": 2453.8399999999997, "text": " If I don't remember to do it, I realize it very quickly and then I jam my SIM back in" }, { "start": 2453.8399999999997, "end": 2456.2, "text": " the iPhone and do the whole dance and stuff like that." }, { "start": 2456.2, "end": 2459.12, "text": " I've never been burned horribly on it." }, { "start": 2459.12, "end": 2461.16, "text": " I missed maybe a handful of messages." }, { "start": 2461.16, "end": 2464.7999999999997, "text": " I know other people that go through the whole process of turning iMessage off and then taking" }, { "start": 2464.8, "end": 2468.48, "text": " their SIM out and then still have messages lost in the ether." }, { "start": 2468.48, "end": 2472.36, "text": " I'm just thinking about that issue of SIM swaps." }, { "start": 2472.36, "end": 2477.32, "text": " If you take the nano SIM from your iPhone, how big of an adapter would you need to get" }, { "start": 2477.32, "end": 2480.1600000000003, "text": " that thing into a visophone?" }, { "start": 2480.1600000000003, "end": 2485.7200000000003, "text": " Just the standard micro to mini is fine." }, { "start": 2485.7200000000003, "end": 2486.7200000000003, "text": " Really?" }, { "start": 2486.7200000000003, "end": 2490.6400000000003, "text": " You're going to give me a straight answer, Dieter?" }, { "start": 2490.6400000000003, "end": 2494.1200000000003, "text": " The thing runs on the SIM card." }, { "start": 2494.12, "end": 2497.92, "text": " The visophones use this size instead of this size?" }, { "start": 2497.92, "end": 2498.92, "text": " Instead of the credit card size one?" }, { "start": 2498.92, "end": 2502.44, "text": " It didn't use a full SIM card." }, { "start": 2502.44, "end": 2507.2799999999997, "text": " It's like a floppy drive." }, { "start": 2507.2799999999997, "end": 2514.3599999999997, "text": " You have to press a button to pull it out." }, { "start": 2514.3599999999997, "end": 2516.3599999999997, "text": " The visor is the important thing, not the phone." }, { "start": 2516.3599999999997, "end": 2519.12, "text": " The phone was just one of many modules." }, { "start": 2519.12, "end": 2522.7599999999998, "text": " You could get the module that lets you use CF cards for memory expansion." }, { "start": 2522.76, "end": 2528.0400000000004, "text": " You get the module that lets you take.3 megapixel images." }, { "start": 2528.0400000000004, "end": 2533.6000000000004, "text": " You could get one that played MP3s because the Palm OS wasn't capable of playing MP3s" }, { "start": 2533.6000000000004, "end": 2534.6000000000004, "text": " back in the day." }, { "start": 2534.6000000000004, "end": 2537.6000000000004, "text": " This is a great little expandable thing." }, { "start": 2537.6000000000004, "end": 2543.6000000000004, "text": " I'm just trying to picture walking around with all these modules in your pockets or" }, { "start": 2543.6000000000004, "end": 2548.2400000000002, "text": " bags and you want to do something so you have to pop out the camera, throw your music module" }, { "start": 2548.2400000000002, "end": 2549.2400000000002, "text": " in." }, { "start": 2549.24, "end": 2554.24, "text": " If you wanted to access this file, pop out that, put in your CF reader, and then, oh," }, { "start": 2554.24, "end": 2555.24, "text": " let me take a picture." }, { "start": 2555.24, "end": 2557.9199999999996, "text": " I'll pop out this module and throw in my camera module." }, { "start": 2557.9199999999996, "end": 2558.9199999999996, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2558.9199999999996, "end": 2563.64, "text": " Girl who wore cargo pants, what can I say?" }, { "start": 2563.64, "end": 2567.3599999999997, "text": " Also I was doing this in like 2002." }, { "start": 2567.3599999999997, "end": 2568.3599999999997, "text": " What were you doing in 2002?" }, { "start": 2568.3599999999997, "end": 2569.3599999999997, "text": " Do you want me to answer that question?" }, { "start": 2569.3599999999997, "end": 2570.3599999999997, "text": " Going out and doing things." }, { "start": 2570.3599999999997, "end": 2571.3599999999997, "text": " Yeah, you were meeting girls." }, { "start": 2571.3599999999997, "end": 2572.3599999999997, "text": " Well, some of us didn't have that luxury." }, { "start": 2572.3599999999997, "end": 2573.3599999999997, "text": " No, I'm pretty sure I was meeting girls." }, { "start": 2573.3599999999997, "end": 2574.3599999999997, "text": " I was meeting girls." }, { "start": 2574.3599999999997, "end": 2575.3599999999997, "text": " I was meeting girls." }, { "start": 2575.3599999999997, "end": 2576.3599999999997, "text": " I was meeting girls." }, { "start": 2576.3599999999997, "end": 2577.3599999999997, "text": " I was meeting girls." }, { "start": 2577.3599999999997, "end": 2578.3599999999997, "text": " I was meeting girls." }, { "start": 2578.36, "end": 2581.92, "text": " I'm pretty sure I was customizing desktop icons at that time." }, { "start": 2581.92, "end": 2584.48, "text": " I've moved on to mobile icons." }, { "start": 2584.48, "end": 2587.88, "text": " Oh my god." }, { "start": 2587.88, "end": 2596.1200000000003, "text": " Oh, speaking of ridiculous things, the self-healing Wolverine screened G Flex from LG." }, { "start": 2596.1200000000003, "end": 2598.6400000000003, "text": " I know Chris has something to say about the G Flex." }, { "start": 2598.6400000000003, "end": 2602.6400000000003, "text": " I want to hear Chris rant on the G Flex." }, { "start": 2602.6400000000003, "end": 2604.76, "text": " How do you do anything with this phone?" }, { "start": 2604.76, "end": 2606.08, "text": " Why is it shaped like a banana?" }, { "start": 2606.08, "end": 2607.08, "text": " How do you put it in your pocket?" }, { "start": 2607.08, "end": 2610.08, "text": " You put it in your back pocket and it curves around your butt." }, { "start": 2610.08, "end": 2612.6, "text": " Yeah, it's got a self-healing screen." }, { "start": 2612.6, "end": 2618.3199999999997, "text": " So you can sit on it and it's fine because Wolverine's up in there." }, { "start": 2618.3199999999997, "end": 2620.24, "text": " Everything about this phone." }, { "start": 2620.24, "end": 2622.68, "text": " This is like failed." }, { "start": 2622.68, "end": 2629.68, "text": " Compare that and the Galaxy Round to Project Ara and tell me which kind of innovation is" }, { "start": 2629.68, "end": 2630.68, "text": " meaningful." }, { "start": 2630.68, "end": 2631.68, "text": " Wait, wait." }, { "start": 2631.68, "end": 2638.56, "text": " On the topic of the Galaxy Round, Raymond Cineiro, the guy who does all the display" }, { "start": 2638.56, "end": 2645.2799999999997, "text": " analyses, he put together a piece where he says that it does have a benefit to that particular" }, { "start": 2645.2799999999997, "end": 2649.72, "text": " curve, the Galaxy Round curve rather than the G Flex curve." }, { "start": 2649.72, "end": 2651.7599999999998, "text": " Apparently, I mean that's his analysis." }, { "start": 2651.7599999999998, "end": 2653.04, "text": " You can take it or leave it." }, { "start": 2653.04, "end": 2661.24, "text": " But apparently it helps minimize the glare of external light which then means you don't" }, { "start": 2661.24, "end": 2662.24, "text": " need as much brightness." }, { "start": 2662.24, "end": 2664.6, "text": " You don't get as many reflections." }, { "start": 2664.6, "end": 2667.8799999999997, "text": " So it's actually kind of better for you as of this point." }, { "start": 2667.8799999999997, "end": 2670.6, "text": " Why doesn't Samsung tell us that?" }, { "start": 2670.6, "end": 2671.6, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 2671.6, "end": 2676.64, "text": " That is a very pertinent question then because I wrote the article about Samsung's Galaxy" }, { "start": 2676.64, "end": 2679.8799999999997, "text": " Round ad in Korea and that is completely incomprehensible." }, { "start": 2679.8799999999997, "end": 2685.3999999999996, "text": " I don't even think Samsung can justify that advert because it included an avocado being" }, { "start": 2685.3999999999996, "end": 2687.12, "text": " swiped with a thumb." }, { "start": 2687.12, "end": 2688.3199999999997, "text": " No, no, no." }, { "start": 2688.3199999999997, "end": 2690.08, "text": " The avocado was not swiped." }, { "start": 2690.08, "end": 2692.3199999999997, "text": " Let's be very clear what happened with that avocado." }, { "start": 2692.3199999999997, "end": 2693.3199999999997, "text": " It was being caressed." }, { "start": 2693.3199999999997, "end": 2695.3199999999997, "text": " That avocado was caressed, yes, exactly." }, { "start": 2695.3199999999997, "end": 2696.3199999999997, "text": " Okay, yeah." }, { "start": 2696.3199999999997, "end": 2697.3199999999997, "text": " No, I mean for me." }, { "start": 2697.3199999999997, "end": 2699.6, "text": " You guys don't caress your avocados?" }, { "start": 2699.6, "end": 2700.6, "text": " They're kind of expensive." }, { "start": 2700.6, "end": 2703.92, "text": " You want to keep care of them and I don't know." }, { "start": 2703.92, "end": 2706.36, "text": " I love them but in a different way." }, { "start": 2706.36, "end": 2709.04, "text": " I don't caress them." }, { "start": 2709.04, "end": 2710.04, "text": " It's just weird." }, { "start": 2710.04, "end": 2714.84, "text": " And the other thing is 90% of the advert had convex objects." }, { "start": 2714.84, "end": 2717.96, "text": " It's eggs, lemons, a baby's hand." }, { "start": 2717.96, "end": 2723.36, "text": " What a baby's hand has to do with a concave thingy and then it took card and they folded" }, { "start": 2723.36, "end": 2725.08, "text": " the card so it became concave." }, { "start": 2725.08, "end": 2728.64, "text": " It's like you just did the same thing with your Galaxy Note 3 screen and you're not" }, { "start": 2728.64, "end": 2731.04, "text": " telling me why I would want to do this." }, { "start": 2731.04, "end": 2733.16, "text": " Because of round interaction, Vlad." }, { "start": 2733.16, "end": 2735.52, "text": " Don't forget round interaction." }, { "start": 2735.52, "end": 2739.7200000000003, "text": " So like how does this thing, does it like, would people be able to hear?" }, { "start": 2739.7200000000003, "end": 2741.92, "text": " Would it fit your ear better if it's rounded?" }, { "start": 2741.92, "end": 2744.4, "text": " I would rather have the banana phone." }, { "start": 2744.4, "end": 2746.92, "text": " Yes, right." }, { "start": 2746.92, "end": 2747.92, "text": " Any flex?" }, { "start": 2747.92, "end": 2749.56, "text": " That's the other thing." }, { "start": 2749.56, "end": 2753.4, "text": " It's like, yeah, there's absolutely no reason for the phone to be shaped that way." }, { "start": 2753.4, "end": 2760.16, "text": " Apart from this like ridiculous like theoretical reflectivity nonsense, there's no like practical" }, { "start": 2760.16, "end": 2762, "text": " reason for the phone to be shaped that way." }, { "start": 2762, "end": 2766.32, "text": " I mean again, I think I said this a couple weeks ago, like this is a great and very important" }, { "start": 2766.32, "end": 2769.36, "text": " step toward flexible devices." }, { "start": 2769.36, "end": 2775.28, "text": " But this like, this sideshow, this like circus act in between of like phones that are bent" }, { "start": 2775.28, "end": 2779.76, "text": " for no reason, is like frankly a little like disconcerting to me." }, { "start": 2779.76, "end": 2782.4, "text": " Look man, the buttons are still in the back of the G Flex, okay?" }, { "start": 2782.4, "end": 2783.76, "text": " Well that's important." }, { "start": 2783.76, "end": 2787.4, "text": " I mean, goodness knows we don't need buttons on the front." }, { "start": 2787.4, "end": 2788.4, "text": " Or the side." }, { "start": 2788.4, "end": 2789.4, "text": " That's right." }, { "start": 2789.4, "end": 2798.7200000000003, "text": " I mean, if LG doesn't sign up 50 cent to promote this phone, then they've failed." }, { "start": 2798.7200000000003, "end": 2804.52, "text": " Yeah, you know, if I have to sign myself up as a fanboy of any company, it's LG right" }, { "start": 2804.52, "end": 2805.52, "text": " now." }, { "start": 2805.52, "end": 2808.68, "text": " I, for whatever reason, I like the G Flex." }, { "start": 2808.68, "end": 2813.68, "text": " I like just how crazy and weird it looks and I'm a huge fan of the G2." }, { "start": 2813.68, "end": 2818.68, "text": " And something I found out also, they didn't have to put the power button and the volume" }, { "start": 2818.68, "end": 2820.74, "text": " buttons on the back." }, { "start": 2820.74, "end": 2825.72, "text": " They could have them on the side if they wanted to on the G2." }, { "start": 2825.72, "end": 2829.84, "text": " And the thing that LG cites as evidence for that is the fact that the Korean version of" }, { "start": 2829.84, "end": 2835.2000000000003, "text": " the G2 includes one of those pop out antennas in the side." }, { "start": 2835.2000000000003, "end": 2837.6000000000004, "text": " And it still has the same thin bezel around the display." }, { "start": 2837.6000000000004, "end": 2842.04, "text": " So even though the bezel around the display on the G2 is the thinnest, the tiniest I've" }, { "start": 2842.04, "end": 2845.36, "text": " ever seen, that is not the reason why the power button is in the back." }, { "start": 2845.36, "end": 2846.36, "text": " That's just LG being crazy." }, { "start": 2846.36, "end": 2849.96, "text": " I mean, how are you doing the LG software, Vlad?" }, { "start": 2849.96, "end": 2856.8, "text": " Oh, I squint and I pretend." }, { "start": 2856.8, "end": 2860, "text": " Do you hold back the dry heaves?" }, { "start": 2860, "end": 2869.44, "text": " When you open an app and it's LG's atrocious skin and you try not to spit up your cauliflower?" }, { "start": 2869.44, "end": 2879.88, "text": " Actually, as long as we're talking about atrocious skins, Chris, Dan, you guys are full time" }, { "start": 2879.88, "end": 2880.88, "text": " iPhone users." }, { "start": 2880.88, "end": 2884.48, "text": " How are you living with iOS 7 now that you're a month in?" }, { "start": 2884.48, "end": 2885.48, "text": " I love it." }, { "start": 2885.48, "end": 2886.48, "text": " Yeah?" }, { "start": 2886.48, "end": 2887.48, "text": " I love it." }, { "start": 2887.48, "end": 2891.72, "text": " iOS 7 is probably the least of my complaints with the iPhone 5S." }, { "start": 2891.72, "end": 2894.16, "text": " What's the greatest of your complaints?" }, { "start": 2894.16, "end": 2898.72, "text": " Touch ID is a total lie and a falsity." }, { "start": 2898.72, "end": 2903.16, "text": " Dan, that means that you didn't set it up correctly because it has changed my life." }, { "start": 2903.16, "end": 2905.32, "text": " Yeah, I set it up three times." }, { "start": 2905.32, "end": 2908.36, "text": " You're the only person I've ever heard complain about it." }, { "start": 2908.36, "end": 2911.68, "text": " It doesn't like my left thumb, which is the thumb I use the most often." }, { "start": 2911.68, "end": 2913.64, "text": " I don't like your left thumb either." }, { "start": 2913.64, "end": 2917.3199999999997, "text": " Dan, did you used to be a man in black because that might explain it." }, { "start": 2917.3199999999997, "end": 2926.16, "text": " I mean, I did minority report style, shaved my fingerprints off in high school." }, { "start": 2926.16, "end": 2928.72, "text": " No, that's men in black, not minority report." }, { "start": 2928.72, "end": 2930.8399999999997, "text": " Maybe it's minority report too, I don't know." }, { "start": 2930.8399999999997, "end": 2932.8399999999997, "text": " Men in black, they flash you." }, { "start": 2932.8399999999997, "end": 2936.3199999999997, "text": " Anyways, no, I don't have any problems with iOS 7." }, { "start": 2936.3199999999997, "end": 2943.2799999999997, "text": " I have a problem with my iPhone 5S resetting all the time and going to the Apple logo home" }, { "start": 2943.28, "end": 2946.8, "text": " screen, Apple logo boot screen or whatever you call it." }, { "start": 2946.8, "end": 2955.88, "text": " But I don't, the 7.0.3 update where I can turn off the Zoomy animations to open up folders," }, { "start": 2955.88, "end": 2961.0400000000004, "text": " it makes the whole platform feel a lot faster and a lot less annoying." }, { "start": 2961.0400000000004, "end": 2963.44, "text": " I mean Chris, you tested this, didn't you?" }, { "start": 2963.44, "end": 2964.44, "text": " Tested what, sorry?" }, { "start": 2964.44, "end": 2969.6800000000003, "text": " The Zoomy animations versus the simple fades, there's no speed improvement there." }, { "start": 2969.6800000000003, "end": 2970.6800000000003, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 2970.68, "end": 2973.44, "text": " It just feels faster without the animation." }, { "start": 2973.44, "end": 2978.96, "text": " I mean, even if it isn't, it feels faster and that's a better result for me." }, { "start": 2978.96, "end": 2981.72, "text": " But I don't know, it just feels a lot faster." }, { "start": 2981.72, "end": 2985.8399999999997, "text": " Right now Dan, I'm pulling up the scene in Men in Black where they take his fingerprints" }, { "start": 2985.8399999999997, "end": 2986.8399999999997, "text": " off." }, { "start": 2986.8399999999997, "end": 2987.8399999999997, "text": " Wow." }, { "start": 2987.8399999999997, "end": 2988.8399999999997, "text": " But that's not unique, Chris." }, { "start": 2988.8399999999997, "end": 2996.04, "text": " There was that movie with that guy and that thing, they did that too." }, { "start": 2996.04, "end": 2998.2, "text": " That's good to know, Vlad." }, { "start": 2998.2, "end": 3007.3199999999997, "text": " So look, the camera is amazing, touch ID is great and yeah, iOS 7 is fantastic." }, { "start": 3007.3199999999997, "end": 3011.48, "text": " I've just been fully absorbed into the machine." }, { "start": 3011.48, "end": 3019.1, "text": " It's not to say I won't buy a Nexus 5, I will, but just being on a platform that consistently" }, { "start": 3019.1, "end": 3023.4399999999996, "text": " produces this many great apps has not been a terrible thing for me." }, { "start": 3023.4399999999996, "end": 3026.24, "text": " Yeah, but Chris, do you have knock on?" }, { "start": 3026.24, "end": 3028.04, "text": " I don't have knock on, that's true." }, { "start": 3028.04, "end": 3031.64, "text": " I don't have knock on, I don't have smart stay." }, { "start": 3031.64, "end": 3033.36, "text": " You don't have Y screen?" }, { "start": 3033.36, "end": 3038, "text": " You don't have slide aside, you don't have quick menus and quick apps and quick slide." }, { "start": 3038, "end": 3040.32, "text": " I don't have round interaction." }, { "start": 3040.32, "end": 3044.84, "text": " You have OK Google Now." }, { "start": 3044.84, "end": 3046.84, "text": " I don't." }, { "start": 3046.84, "end": 3048.36, "text": " Unfortunately." }, { "start": 3048.36, "end": 3052.2599999999998, "text": " You do have many things, Chris." }, { "start": 3052.2599999999998, "end": 3054.36, "text": " The Google app does have voice." }, { "start": 3054.36, "end": 3055.36, "text": " It does, but it doesn't." }, { "start": 3055.36, "end": 3060.28, "text": " You know, you're better off Chris not having Google Now because I told it Google Now to" }, { "start": 3060.28, "end": 3070.7200000000003, "text": " ask Chris if he has OK Google Now and it thinks that ask Chris if is ask Chris P has, which" }, { "start": 3070.7200000000003, "end": 3074.76, "text": " yeah." }, { "start": 3074.76, "end": 3075.96, "text": " Usually it works pretty well for me." }, { "start": 3075.96, "end": 3083.48, "text": " Although actually Verge Mobile Show listeners, tweet at us at Verge or at Backlant or just" }, { "start": 3083.48, "end": 3087.68, "text": " email us, I want the absolute smallest Bluetooth low energy device." }, { "start": 3087.68, "end": 3093, "text": " It doesn't do anything except transmit a Bluetooth signal for as long as possible so that I can" }, { "start": 3093, "end": 3098.18, "text": " stick it in my pocket or inside my wallet and have it be like my secure trusted Bluetooth" }, { "start": 3098.18, "end": 3100.92, "text": " device so I don't have to unlock my phone when it's nearby." }, { "start": 3100.92, "end": 3102.84, "text": " Aren't you still wearing a pebble?" }, { "start": 3102.84, "end": 3107.68, "text": " No I'm not wearing a pebble right now because it's ugly as sin." }, { "start": 3107.68, "end": 3110.44, "text": " Oh that's the other thing, I gave up wearing a pebble with iOS." }, { "start": 3110.44, "end": 3111.44, "text": " I just can't do it." }, { "start": 3111.44, "end": 3112.44, "text": " Because it's terrible, right?" }, { "start": 3112.44, "end": 3113.44, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3113.44, "end": 3114.44, "text": " It's terrible." }, { "start": 3114.44, "end": 3120.12, "text": " So what is the tiniest Bluetooth device possible, known to man, that transmits a signal and" }, { "start": 3120.12, "end": 3124.16, "text": " has a long battery life but I don't want blinky lights, I don't want it to make noises, I" }, { "start": 3124.16, "end": 3130.04, "text": " don't want to find my keys, I just want a Bluetooth radio that I can stick on my person" }, { "start": 3130.04, "end": 3132.88, "text": " like a secret agent so that my phone stays unlocked." }, { "start": 3132.88, "end": 3136.6, "text": " I want to say the answer to that question Dieter is Moto Skip." }, { "start": 3136.6, "end": 3139.76, "text": " Skip isn't Bluetooth, it's just an NFC sticker, that's all it is." }, { "start": 3139.76, "end": 3140.76, "text": " Oh right yeah." }, { "start": 3140.76, "end": 3143.96, "text": " If I had a Bluetooth I would be super happy." }, { "start": 3143.96, "end": 3148.1600000000003, "text": " Why is the HSE fetch?" }, { "start": 3148.1600000000003, "end": 3149.1600000000003, "text": " How big is the fetch?" }, { "start": 3149.1600000000003, "end": 3153.1600000000003, "text": " I mean they're sticking fine but it's got like a flashlight on it and like come on," }, { "start": 3153.1600000000003, "end": 3154.1600000000003, "text": " really?" }, { "start": 3154.1600000000003, "end": 3158.7200000000003, "text": " I've got one of those fetches around here somewhere but I don't know where." }, { "start": 3158.7200000000003, "end": 3160.6800000000003, "text": " Stop trying to make fetch happen." }, { "start": 3160.6800000000003, "end": 3163.6400000000003, "text": " Not going to happen." }, { "start": 3163.6400000000003, "end": 3167.5400000000004, "text": " What's the problem with using a smart watch, a pebble?" }, { "start": 3167.54, "end": 3171.08, "text": " Because every single smart watch is a piece of garbage, I'll probably switch back." }, { "start": 3171.08, "end": 3172.36, "text": " No not the pebble." }, { "start": 3172.36, "end": 3180.12, "text": " Dude listen, my dumb E Ink Phosphor watch is way cooler, I enjoy looking at it more" }, { "start": 3180.12, "end": 3184.38, "text": " and I get like just straight up I get more compliments and I'm a vain person and I need" }, { "start": 3184.38, "end": 3188.84, "text": " to be complimented and more people notice this watch with this sweet curve." }, { "start": 3188.84, "end": 3193.92, "text": " I've got a Meta watch but I mean that thing is terrible." }, { "start": 3193.92, "end": 3198.2000000000003, "text": " The watch's primary purpose is telling you the time and that's why I won't get a Fitbit" }, { "start": 3198.2000000000003, "end": 3201.7200000000003, "text": " Force because I need to look at my wrist and see the time." }, { "start": 3201.7200000000003, "end": 3205.9, "text": " I'm going to agree with you there Dieter, your watch is very stylish and I agree but" }, { "start": 3205.9, "end": 3208.4, "text": " I actually find the pebble is quite stylish." }, { "start": 3208.4, "end": 3212.6800000000003, "text": " I just got a hold of this Sony smart watch too and the one thing it doesn't do is tell" }, { "start": 3212.6800000000003, "end": 3217.56, "text": " the time that you – actually it does, I haven't turned it on." }, { "start": 3217.56, "end": 3222.56, "text": " But yeah it's big and it's clunky and it's got this awesome –" }, { "start": 3222.56, "end": 3227.52, "text": " Do you have one of those Wim Labs, the one that Google purchased?" }, { "start": 3227.52, "end": 3229.12, "text": " I do not, Chris might." }, { "start": 3229.12, "end": 3232, "text": " I do yes." }, { "start": 3232, "end": 3233, "text": " Is it awesome?" }, { "start": 3233, "end": 3238.7599999999998, "text": " No, it's the worst for a couple of reasons." }, { "start": 3238.7599999999998, "end": 3239.7599999999998, "text": " One is that –" }, { "start": 3239.7599999999998, "end": 3240.7599999999998, "text": " Good purchase Google." }, { "start": 3240.7599999999998, "end": 3244.96, "text": " Well no, I mean like if you tear it down to what it is fundamentally it's like a really" }, { "start": 3244.96, "end": 3245.96, "text": " compelling prospect." }, { "start": 3245.96, "end": 3253.6, "text": " It's like a tiny, it's like a one inch by one inch module that has a color display" }, { "start": 3253.6, "end": 3254.7200000000003, "text": " and runs Android." }, { "start": 3254.7200000000003, "end": 3259.56, "text": " So if you think of it at that level it's obvious the kinds of things you can do with" }, { "start": 3259.56, "end": 3260.56, "text": " that." }, { "start": 3260.56, "end": 3265.28, "text": " But as a watch it's terrible because one, you have to slip it into this really nasty" }, { "start": 3265.28, "end": 3266.28, "text": " band." }, { "start": 3266.28, "end": 3270.92, "text": " It's a generic module that can be adapted." }, { "start": 3270.92, "end": 3275.76, "text": " It's almost like an iPod Nano, like a last gen iPod Nano." }, { "start": 3275.76, "end": 3278.28, "text": " But then the other problem is that it doesn't have Bluetooth, it only has Wi-Fi." }, { "start": 3278.28, "end": 3280.7200000000003, "text": " It doesn't connect to your phone." }, { "start": 3280.7200000000003, "end": 3285.44, "text": " It syncs itself which makes absolutely no sense." }, { "start": 3285.44, "end": 3286.44, "text": " So yeah." }, { "start": 3286.44, "end": 3292.2200000000003, "text": " So in theory that makes it more of a smart watch than anything we've seen before because" }, { "start": 3292.2200000000003, "end": 3294.2400000000002, "text": " everything else doesn't have any smarts." }, { "start": 3294.2400000000002, "end": 3295.84, "text": " It requires your phone for all the smarts." }, { "start": 3295.84, "end": 3298.2200000000003, "text": " Well it depends on your definition of smart watch." }, { "start": 3298.2200000000003, "end": 3301.76, "text": " To me a smart watch is a smart phone companion." }, { "start": 3301.76, "end": 3307.84, "text": " I don't think of a smart watch as being like a separate, you know, monolithic device that" }, { "start": 3307.84, "end": 3309.32, "text": " doesn't connect to your phone." }, { "start": 3309.32, "end": 3316.92, "text": " Oh hang on, the Gadget Priest has suggested a Bluetooth device to me at Alibaba." }, { "start": 3316.92, "end": 3317.92, "text": " So I'm going to go check that out." }, { "start": 3317.92, "end": 3318.92, "text": " Alibaba?" }, { "start": 3318.92, "end": 3321.7400000000002, "text": " Yeah, oh I don't know, this is pretty big." }, { "start": 3321.7400000000002, "end": 3327, "text": " It's a big old Bluetooth key chain from Shenzhen ZEN-EAR technology co-LTD." }, { "start": 3327, "end": 3331.32, "text": " Dieter, do you have one of Phosphor's crystal watches?" }, { "start": 3331.32, "end": 3333.84, "text": " No, I do not have one of Phosphor's crystal watches." }, { "start": 3333.84, "end": 3339.2000000000003, "text": " I did back their most recent Kickstarter campaign which is, first of all, they do not need," }, { "start": 3339.2000000000003, "end": 3343.36, "text": " like these people that make Kickstarter campaigns just to release a product, don't." }, { "start": 3343.36, "end": 3345.9, "text": " You don't need it and you're already laid on it anyway." }, { "start": 3345.9, "end": 3349.76, "text": " So thanks a lot Phosphor for taking my money for no good reason." }, { "start": 3349.76, "end": 3352.2400000000002, "text": " You're talking about the TouchTime." }, { "start": 3352.2400000000002, "end": 3353.2400000000002, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3353.2400000000002, "end": 3359.0800000000004, "text": " Well hold on, I'm going to drop this image into our chat." }, { "start": 3359.08, "end": 3362.44, "text": " No, no, check out this version of the crystal watch." }, { "start": 3362.44, "end": 3366.88, "text": " Like it used to be just like blingy white crystals but now they have an all black one" }, { "start": 3366.88, "end": 3369.56, "text": " with red crystals, it looks kind of baller." }, { "start": 3369.56, "end": 3370.56, "text": " Yeah except it doesn't." }, { "start": 3370.56, "end": 3371.56, "text": " That is nice." }, { "start": 3371.56, "end": 3372.56, "text": " Yeah right?" }, { "start": 3372.56, "end": 3376.92, "text": " Our producer is going to share it to our Hangouts so this is a private conversation." }, { "start": 3376.92, "end": 3379.2799999999997, "text": " I was going to say this is terrible." }, { "start": 3379.2799999999997, "end": 3380.68, "text": " We're going to get better at sharing stuff." }, { "start": 3380.68, "end": 3384.16, "text": " If we end up sticking with Hangouts long term, the new Hangouts stuff that got announced" }, { "start": 3384.16, "end": 3387.96, "text": " today we might be able to do some interesting things with the show." }, { "start": 3387.96, "end": 3392.08, "text": " Stay tuned, stay tuned." }, { "start": 3392.08, "end": 3396.4, "text": " While he brings that watch up, okay I promise we wouldn't talk about it but screw it." }, { "start": 3396.4, "end": 3400.04, "text": " Like 10.2 Blackberry, it exists." }, { "start": 3400.04, "end": 3401.2, "text": " That's all you need to know." }, { "start": 3401.2, "end": 3402.2, "text": " Go update your Z10." }, { "start": 3402.2, "end": 3407.2, "text": " I was saying this before the show, I haven't unlocked Z10 that I've been trying to get" }, { "start": 3407.2, "end": 3412.84, "text": " the update on and I even went to as far as installing whatever Blackberry calls its desktop" }, { "start": 3412.84, "end": 3419.08, "text": " software for the Mac to try and get it through that which didn't work so I have not been" }, { "start": 3419.08, "end": 3424.1600000000003, "text": " able to see the update because it has not come to my phone yet." }, { "start": 3424.1600000000003, "end": 3430.36, "text": " Actually it's so crazy to me that BBM on iOS and Android follows the Blackberry 10 design" }, { "start": 3430.36, "end": 3433.52, "text": " conventions exactly." }, { "start": 3433.52, "end": 3437, "text": " It's got like two menus." }, { "start": 3437, "end": 3438, "text": " It's insane." }, { "start": 3438, "end": 3440.08, "text": " It's a terrible app." }, { "start": 3440.08, "end": 3442.7200000000003, "text": " I would just like to point out something." }, { "start": 3442.72, "end": 3449.16, "text": " My experience with the Blackberry Z30, I've had only one of those and it was perfectly" }, { "start": 3449.16, "end": 3450.16, "text": " random." }, { "start": 3450.16, "end": 3453.3999999999996, "text": " I did not pick on the device at all." }, { "start": 3453.3999999999996, "end": 3454.56, "text": " I just stumbled upon it." }, { "start": 3454.56, "end": 3455.66, "text": " I didn't look for it." }, { "start": 3455.66, "end": 3456.66, "text": " We met." }, { "start": 3456.66, "end": 3459.3199999999997, "text": " It happened and here's what happened." }, { "start": 3459.3199999999997, "end": 3460.3199999999997, "text": " I was at one of the…" }, { "start": 3460.3199999999997, "end": 3461.9199999999996, "text": " It invited you up for a drink." }, { "start": 3461.9199999999996, "end": 3462.9199999999996, "text": " You were thirsty." }, { "start": 3462.9199999999996, "end": 3464.9599999999996, "text": " You know, it's not your fault." }, { "start": 3464.96, "end": 3473.4, "text": " Listen, I was at one of the UK phone retailers was doing their holiday season preview." }, { "start": 3473.4, "end": 3474.88, "text": " So they have all the devices out there." }, { "start": 3474.88, "end": 3479.92, "text": " They've got the LG G2, the Lumia 1020, all of their big devices and I had one Blackberry" }, { "start": 3479.92, "end": 3482.16, "text": " Z30 and I'm like, oh is that the Z30?" }, { "start": 3482.16, "end": 3483.64, "text": " I haven't actually seen that in person." }, { "start": 3483.64, "end": 3484.64, "text": " Can I touch it?" }, { "start": 3484.64, "end": 3486.16, "text": " Can I play with it?" }, { "start": 3486.16, "end": 3491.56, "text": " And the lady was really nice, really obliging to let me handle it but she said, well actually" }, { "start": 3491.56, "end": 3495.4, "text": " we're sorry but the software's frozen." }, { "start": 3495.4, "end": 3498.2799999999997, "text": " So I mean this is…" }, { "start": 3498.2799999999997, "end": 3503.68, "text": " Like the one time I get a Z30 in my hands and the software is just like locked up and" }, { "start": 3503.68, "end": 3506.16, "text": " she couldn't even recover it." }, { "start": 3506.16, "end": 3514.56, "text": " I will say to give Blackberry some sort of credit, you can see the watch now." }, { "start": 3514.56, "end": 3518.16, "text": " I don't know how to make it big." }, { "start": 3518.16, "end": 3521.4, "text": " We need Apple to make noise, make some sound." }, { "start": 3521.4, "end": 3522.4, "text": " Is it big?" }, { "start": 3522.4, "end": 3523.4, "text": " Oh I did it." }, { "start": 3523.4, "end": 3524.4, "text": " There it is." }, { "start": 3524.4, "end": 3525.4, "text": " There's the watch that Chris was talking about." }, { "start": 3525.4, "end": 3529.96, "text": " We're going to have a watch section here in a second." }, { "start": 3529.96, "end": 3537, "text": " Anyways, so Blackberry 10.2, it's pretty funny that Blackberry beat Android and iOS" }, { "start": 3537, "end": 3541.6800000000003, "text": " to the whole quick message response thing." }, { "start": 3541.6800000000003, "end": 3543.4, "text": " So kudos to them on that." }, { "start": 3543.4, "end": 3546.84, "text": " So you can respond to a message without jumping into your messages or leaving whatever app" }, { "start": 3546.84, "end": 3547.84, "text": " you're in." }, { "start": 3547.84, "end": 3553.48, "text": " I know Cyan Engine Mod has had for quite a while as a custom ROM thing but Android proper" }, { "start": 3553.48, "end": 3554.48, "text": " doesn't have it." }, { "start": 3554.48, "end": 3557.96, "text": " iOS proper doesn't have it even though Mavericks has it." }, { "start": 3557.96, "end": 3560.6400000000003, "text": " So it's a great feature." }, { "start": 3560.6400000000003, "end": 3566.4, "text": " You know I don't think the visor phone had that either." }, { "start": 3566.4, "end": 3568.76, "text": " Did the visor phone support SMS?" }, { "start": 3568.76, "end": 3569.76, "text": " Yeah dude." }, { "start": 3569.76, "end": 3571.8, "text": " It was great." }, { "start": 3571.8, "end": 3572.8, "text": " Was SMS…" }, { "start": 3572.8, "end": 3578.6800000000003, "text": " Do you guys remember when it was a big deal to have threaded SMS messaging on your device?" }, { "start": 3578.6800000000003, "end": 3583.1600000000003, "text": " I remember installing third party apps on my Windows mobile phones so that I could get" }, { "start": 3583.1600000000003, "end": 3584.1600000000003, "text": " third party." }, { "start": 3584.1600000000003, "end": 3587.88, "text": " Do you remember when it was a big deal that you could send an SMS to or from somebody" }, { "start": 3587.88, "end": 3589.92, "text": " on Sprint's network?" }, { "start": 3589.92, "end": 3590.92, "text": " That was huge." }, { "start": 3590.92, "end": 3594.8, "text": " Yes, I do remember that actually." }, { "start": 3594.8, "end": 3597.6400000000003, "text": " Was that like the American version of the Berlin Wall falling?" }, { "start": 3597.6400000000003, "end": 3598.6400000000003, "text": " Basically." }, { "start": 3598.64, "end": 3604.64, "text": " They didn't fix SMS and in fact in some ways they still haven't but the less said" }, { "start": 3604.64, "end": 3607.04, "text": " about SMS the better." }, { "start": 3607.04, "end": 3613.68, "text": " That ladies and gentlemen is the Verge Mobile Show for the week of October 28th, 2009." }, { "start": 3613.68, "end": 3616.4, "text": " If you want to follow us on Twitter you can, you should." }, { "start": 3616.4, "end": 3621.92, "text": " I am Bacalan, Dan is DC Seifert, Vlad is Vlad Savov, Chris is Zipower." }, { "start": 3621.92, "end": 3622.92, "text": " We are all at Verge." }, { "start": 3622.92, "end": 3623.92, "text": " You can email us." }, { "start": 3623.92, "end": 3628.08, "text": " It's the Verge Mobile Show at theverge.com." }, { "start": 3628.08, "end": 3630.64, "text": " And we'll be back next week." }, { "start": 3630.64, "end": 3633.44, "text": " Probably you never know but there's a good chance." }, { "start": 3633.44, "end": 3658.52, "text": " So thanks for watching everybody." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 3.08, "text": " It's Monday, October 28, 2013." }, { "start": 3.08, "end": 5.8, "text": " I'm Stephen Greenwood, The Verge's resident lumberjack," }, { "start": 5.8, "end": 7.76, "text": " and this is 90 Seconds on The Verge." }, { "start": 7.76, "end": 11.52, "text": " President Obama appears to be the latest victim of Syrian hackers." }, { "start": 11.52, "end": 14.84, "text": " The links used by Obama's Twitter and Facebook feeds were hijacked," }, { "start": 14.84, "end": 19.080000000000002, "text": " with the seemingly innocuous URLs now redirecting users to a malware site" }, { "start": 19.080000000000002, "end": 20.72, "text": " and Syria propaganda video." }, { "start": 20.72, "end": 24.36, "text": " According to the White House, the Twitter handle itself was never compromised." }, { "start": 24.36, "end": 27.400000000000002, "text": " The Obama administration has had a particularly rough week," }, { "start": 27.4, "end": 31.84, "text": " with a data center critical to healthcare.gov experiencing an outage over the weekend." }, { "start": 31.84, "end": 36.36, "text": " In sad news this weekend, rock and roll legend Lou Reed died at age 71." }, { "start": 36.36, "end": 41.28, "text": " In 1964, Reed along with John Cale formed the influential group The Velvet Underground." }, { "start": 41.28, "end": 43.480000000000004, "text": " After leaving the band in the early 70s," }, { "start": 43.480000000000004, "end": 45.879999999999995, "text": " Reed went on to have a successful solo career." }, { "start": 45.879999999999995, "end": 50.36, "text": " His notable hits include Walk on the Wild Side, Sweet Jane, and White Light, White Heat." }, { "start": 50.36, "end": 54.44, "text": " Former bandmate John Cale wrote that the world lost a fine songwriter and poet," }, { "start": 54.44, "end": 56.44, "text": " and that he lost his schoolyard buddy." }, { "start": 56.44, "end": 59.64, "text": " And finally, the Jedi has returned...on Laserdisc." }, { "start": 59.64, "end": 63.96, "text": " Buyers of a rare Laserdisc found it full of raw footage from Return of the Jedi." }, { "start": 63.96, "end": 67.16, "text": " The Laserdisc was purchased on eBay for nearly $700," }, { "start": 67.16, "end": 71.44, "text": " and was apparently used to show off the first digital editing system to prospective buyers" }, { "start": 71.44, "end": 72.92, "text": " nearly 30 years ago." }, { "start": 72.92, "end": 76.16, "text": " If you haven't had a chance to see the footage, you're not missing that much." }, { "start": 76.16, "end": 80.68, "text": " At one point, it's just a full minute of R2-D2 fixing Luke Skywalker's X-Wing fighter." }, { "start": 80.68, "end": 82.2, "text": " That's it for today's top stories." }, { "start": 82.2, "end": 85.92, "text": " Coming up tomorrow, we'll check out the video sharing site for Ghosts." }, { "start": 85.92, "end": 86.92, "text": " BooTube." }, { "start": 86.92, "end": 87.92, "text": " BooTube." }, { "start": 87.92, "end": 116.92, "text": " BooTube." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 5.22, "text": " Whether we know it or not, design is an integral part of our lives today." }, { "start": 5.22, "end": 8.48, "text": " It's not a battle of form and function, it's a symbiotic relationship." }, { "start": 8.48, "end": 11.82, "text": " While most of us are quite familiar with the products that we own, the design process behind" }, { "start": 11.82, "end": 13.88, "text": " them is still a bit of a mystery." }, { "start": 13.88, "end": 16.8, "text": " New Deal Design's Gadi Ahmed is one such designer." }, { "start": 16.8, "end": 20.8, "text": " He's the mind behind the look of the Fitbit activity tracker and the Lightro camera." }, { "start": 20.8, "end": 24.98, "text": " A National Design Award recipient, Ahmed has extensive experience with how these very personal" }, { "start": 24.98, "end": 29, "text": " products are conceptualized, designed, and eventually end up in our hands." }, { "start": 29, "end": 34.36, "text": " So for us, interesting topic about design, most people look about design as something" }, { "start": 34.36, "end": 35.480000000000004, "text": " that is exterior." }, { "start": 35.480000000000004, "end": 39.88, "text": " What we're dealing with the interior, with the core functionality, like how you wear" }, { "start": 39.88, "end": 48.32, "text": " it, sizes of human body, ergonomics, arrangement of parts, and only then we get to the perfection" }, { "start": 48.32, "end": 50.04, "text": " of the exterior surface." }, { "start": 50.04, "end": 54.04, "text": " Could you maybe take us through the process of how you got from conception of the Fitbit" }, { "start": 54.04, "end": 58.34, "text": " and then to an actual product that we wear today?" }, { "start": 58.34, "end": 59.800000000000004, "text": " It's actually an amazing story." }, { "start": 59.800000000000004, "end": 67.82000000000001, "text": " So we started with the original Fitbit, and at that time we wanted to rethink everything" }, { "start": 67.82000000000001, "end": 71.04, "text": " that related to what was then called pedometers." }, { "start": 71.04, "end": 76.14, "text": " And we wanted to create something that is very friendly to the human body." }, { "start": 76.14, "end": 80.92, "text": " We actually thought a lot about women and how they carry things." }, { "start": 80.92, "end": 85.4, "text": " And for instance, the fact that this was a clip was driven by that because women have" }, { "start": 85.4, "end": 87.14, "text": " much smaller pockets." }, { "start": 87.14, "end": 92.7, "text": " So we ended up with this innovative design that actually had a unique architecture with" }, { "start": 92.7, "end": 94.52, "text": " two nodes of electronics." }, { "start": 94.52, "end": 97.12, "text": " One has a battery, the other one has a wrist." }, { "start": 97.12, "end": 102.68, "text": " And the latest generation is dealing with wrist-worn objects." }, { "start": 102.68, "end": 106.56, "text": " You could imagine five years from now, each one of us will probably have about ten of" }, { "start": 106.56, "end": 107.6, "text": " these." }, { "start": 107.6, "end": 113.08, "text": " And two or three will be customized to some physical or medical needs that we have." }, { "start": 113.08, "end": 115.96000000000001, "text": " Two or three are basically recreational." }, { "start": 115.96, "end": 121.3, "text": " And two or three are maybe data-oriented, identity, authentication, and so on." }, { "start": 121.3, "end": 124.83999999999999, "text": " Now how much of the design is dictated by the electronics?" }, { "start": 124.83999999999999, "end": 127.08, "text": " It's a very interesting dialogue." }, { "start": 127.08, "end": 131.62, "text": " There's obviously core functionality that we're trying to get into the product, but" }, { "start": 131.62, "end": 136.28, "text": " sometimes the human qualities are pushing back." }, { "start": 136.28, "end": 139.68, "text": " For instance, discussion about user interface." }, { "start": 139.68, "end": 144, "text": " Do you always need the biggest screen on the planet?" }, { "start": 144, "end": 148.52, "text": " Sometimes you just need to glance over and get a sense that you're more or less okay." }, { "start": 148.52, "end": 150.8, "text": " You walked 5,000 steps." }, { "start": 150.8, "end": 152.12, "text": " So let's talk about Lytro." }, { "start": 152.12, "end": 160, "text": " Lytro is maybe another very recent and popular design that you guys did." }, { "start": 160, "end": 164, "text": " How much of this design was dictated by the technology itself?" }, { "start": 164, "end": 169, "text": " The design of Lytro was driven by a constraint." }, { "start": 169, "end": 171.82, "text": " And the constraint was actually the optics, the electro-optics." }, { "start": 171.82, "end": 176.76, "text": " So we decided to build on these and created something that is more of an extension of" }, { "start": 176.76, "end": 177.76, "text": " the lens." 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She battled stomach cancer in 2008 and then doctors discovered another tumor in her lung." }, { "start": 496, "end": 503, "text": " It's a cough that never goes away. Your sinuses are burning, your eyes are burning. All of a sudden you'll get a fever." }, { "start": 503, "end": 509, "text": " Since returning from home in July, I have suffered from a number of respiratory problems related to the exposure." }, { "start": 509, "end": 520, "text": " When we met that whole community of people that were having the same symptoms is when we realized that we had to open that pathway for them too." }, { "start": 520, "end": 530, "text": " That's when God put it in our heart to invest our time and our energy in being the voice for other people." }, { "start": 530, "end": 542, "text": " Kind of finding somewhere where they can go and just click and say, okay, there are doctors, these are the healthcare providers that have researched and discovered this illness." }, { "start": 542, "end": 560, "text": " We'll just put that information there and throw this information in here and put a registry together." }, { "start": 560, "end": 570, "text": " We developed it as a platform to show the VA and DoD that there is a need. 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I mean, sadly, that's a fact of life and war." }, { "start": 625, "end": 637, "text": " But the fact that they were exposed to potentially fatal levels of danger on their own bases is something that we have to address and we have to rectify to the greatest extent we can." }, { "start": 637, "end": 644, "text": " When we first got involved in the issue, the first thing we looked at was to get the burn pits banned. 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"start": 1008, "end": 1018, "text": " I mean, it was just, what, summer of 2011 that a whole family of conditions were added to the list of presumptive causes." }, { "start": 1018, "end": 1027, "text": " You know, the last one of our troops left Vietnam in 1975 and so whatever that is, 36 years that it took to get that done." }, { "start": 1027, "end": 1037, "text": " Now, one of the things that I'm determined isn't going to happen is it's not going to take 36 years for us to properly deal with those that we have exposed to burn pits." }, { "start": 1037, "end": 1045, "text": " In the beginning, the language that was written was definitely saying that there's not an association between the exposure and the illnesses." }, { "start": 1045, "end": 1053, "text": " Slowly they're acknowledging a little that these people are not going to go away and that there needs to be a change," }, { "start": 1053, "end": 1079, "text": " but I'm not happy with the pace that they're going, at the rate they're going with, with acknowledging all that." }, { "start": 1079, "end": 1090, "text": " Acceptance is a huge thing that I've had to deal with, is just accepting the fact that I'm not the same person who I was before the exposure." }, { "start": 1090, "end": 1095, "text": " You know, we're hanging that flag up the other day and it makes me proud." }, { "start": 1095, "end": 1103, "text": " And although we've been through things with DOD and VA, to me that's just the price of war. Every war has its price." }, { "start": 1103, "end": 1111, "text": " It's like I mentioned before, I would do it all over again, which may sound crazy, but it's just something that's in your heart and you desire to do it." }, { "start": 1111, "end": 1113, "text": " It's like you do it at all costs." }, { "start": 1113, "end": 1121, "text": " I absolutely am patriotic until the day I die. I mean, I'll honor that flag." }, { "start": 1121, "end": 1125, "text": " So until the day I hang that flag on my coffin, you know." }, { "start": 1125, "end": 1137, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1155, "end": 1170, "text": " Yeah." } ]

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[ { "start": 0, "end": 6.32, "text": " It's Friday, October 25th, 2013. I'm Adrienne Jeffries and it's Friday, October 25th, 2013." }, { "start": 6.32, "end": 9, "text": " I'm Adrienne Jeffries and it's Friday, October 25th..." }, { "start": 9, "end": 9.5, "text": " Adrienne!" }, { "start": 9.5, "end": 10.5, "text": " Whoa, sorry." }, { "start": 11, "end": 13, "text": " This is 90 seconds on the verge." }, { "start": 13.5, "end": 19.5, "text": " Healthcare.gov hasn't had the grand start it hoped for, but the Obama administration is promising to fix that by the end of November." }, { "start": 19.5, "end": 24, "text": " Officials say the site is fixable, but that there are, quote, a lot of problems that need to be addressed." }, { "start": 24, "end": 31, "text": " This rush to fix the site is part of President Obama's, quote, tech surge, which is adding more manpower to an already bloated project." }, { "start": 31, "end": 36, "text": " In the meantime, take your mind off the technical woes of Healthcare.gov by playing Grand Theft Auto Online." }, { "start": 36, "end": 42, "text": " Comcast has long been opposed to separating HBO from its very pricey bundles, but it may be willing to compromise." }, { "start": 42, "end": 49, "text": " The cable company is now offering a new basic TV package called Internet Plus, which gives you broadband internet, a dozen or so channels, and HBO." }, { "start": 49, "end": 55, "text": " At about $50 a month, it's currently one of the cheapest ways to legally watch HBO and its online service HBO Go." }, { "start": 55, "end": 60, "text": " So I may finally be able to watch Game of Thrones without having to navigate through episodes of Shaun Saves the World." }, { "start": 60, "end": 63, "text": " And finally, Clive Barker is raising hell one more time." }, { "start": 63, "end": 67, "text": " The horror icon announced yesterday that he's writing the script for a Hellraiser reboot." }, { "start": 67, "end": 73, "text": " Barker says the new film, which is the tenth in the series, will be, quote, darker and richer than the original." }, { "start": 73, "end": 80, "text": " While this is certainly not the first try at a Hellraiser reboot, Barker's early input suggests this one will make it to its yet-to-be-announced release date." }, { "start": 80, "end": 103, "text": " That's it for today's top stories. Coming up tomorrow, I report back after teleporting to Siberia." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 25.080000000000002, "text": " Welcome to the Vergecast for the week of October 21st, 2013." }, { "start": 25.080000000000002, "end": 26.76, "text": " I'm Joshua Topolsky." }, { "start": 26.76, "end": 28.28, "text": " I'm Nilay Patel." }, { "start": 28.28, "end": 30.12, "text": " And I'm, I guess I'm Paul Miller." }, { "start": 30.12, "end": 31.12, "text": " I guess you are." }, { "start": 31.12, "end": 32.120000000000005, "text": " You could be a lot of people today." }, { "start": 32.120000000000005, "end": 34.72, "text": " You could be a series of people." }, { "start": 34.72, "end": 36.36, "text": " I'm going to go with Paul Miller." }, { "start": 36.36, "end": 39.84, "text": " In fact, when I came into the studio today, I was told, you're sitting in Paul Miller's" }, { "start": 39.84, "end": 40.84, "text": " seat." }, { "start": 40.84, "end": 41.84, "text": " That was what I was told." }, { "start": 41.84, "end": 42.84, "text": " Wow." }, { "start": 42.84, "end": 43.84, "text": " Like the ghost of Paul Miller." }, { "start": 43.84, "end": 47.120000000000005, "text": " You need to take your voice down a notch and just start providing some insights." }, { "start": 47.120000000000005, "end": 48.96, "text": " You're already going into the Tim Cook voice?" }, { "start": 48.96, "end": 50.040000000000006, "text": " No, that was Paul." }, { "start": 50.040000000000006, "end": 51.040000000000006, "text": " That was Paul being Tim Cook." }, { "start": 51.040000000000006, "end": 52.68000000000001, "text": " No, that's not a Paul." }, { "start": 52.68000000000001, "end": 54.56, "text": " You do a good Tim Cook, you don't do a good Paul Miller." }, { "start": 54.56, "end": 55.56, "text": " That's true." }, { "start": 55.56, "end": 56.56, "text": " No offense." }, { "start": 56.56, "end": 57.56, "text": " I was just trying to be gentle with it." }, { "start": 57.56, "end": 61.760000000000005, "text": " I know before we get going, my, my hair and my microphone are just, just aces right now." }, { "start": 61.760000000000005, "end": 66, "text": " Like this could not be a better situation for me is in an entire lifetime." }, { "start": 66, "end": 67.34, "text": " This is perfect." }, { "start": 67.34, "end": 68.62, "text": " Can we just talk for a second?" }, { "start": 68.62, "end": 69.62, "text": " Everything is amazing." }, { "start": 69.62, "end": 75.52000000000001, "text": " Can we just talk for a second about the fact that neither Josh nor Nilay are on this verge" }, { "start": 75.52000000000001, "end": 76.52000000000001, "text": " cast?" }, { "start": 76.52000000000001, "end": 77.52000000000001, "text": " And it's a little weird." }, { "start": 77.52000000000001, "end": 78.92, "text": " Like it's, it's like a bloodless coup." }, { "start": 78.92, "end": 83.16, "text": " I'm a little, I feel like I'm, I need to be, I need to be really angry because I'm in Josh's" }, { "start": 83.16, "end": 84.16, "text": " chair." }, { "start": 84.16, "end": 85.16, "text": " You should be angry." }, { "start": 85.16, "end": 87.96, "text": " Like I need to be mad about seltzer." }, { "start": 87.96, "end": 91.08, "text": " I have very strong opinions about old sci-fi movies." }, { "start": 91.08, "end": 92.08, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 92.08, "end": 96.64, "text": " And my hair just looks ridiculous all the time, but only to me." }, { "start": 96.64, "end": 97.64, "text": " Only to you." }, { "start": 97.64, "end": 98.64, "text": " Only to you." }, { "start": 98.64, "end": 99.64, "text": " To everyone else." }, { "start": 99.64, "end": 102.36, "text": " There was this one time where Josh actually wiped his face off with a phone." }, { "start": 102.36, "end": 106.96, "text": " I think it was the, oh, that's been the most, that's the most jift verge cast moment of" }, { "start": 106.96, "end": 107.96, "text": " all time." }, { "start": 107.96, "end": 108.96, "text": " And yes, I did just say jift." }, { "start": 108.96, "end": 109.96, "text": " That's good." }, { "start": 109.96, "end": 110.96, "text": " You can do that." }, { "start": 110.96, "end": 111.96, "text": " Get out of this." }, { "start": 111.96, "end": 114.92, "text": " If you're starting to shvitz, you can do that with a, I could do it with the Mac book." }, { "start": 114.92, "end": 115.92, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 115.92, "end": 117.48, "text": " I wrote a very nice review of the retina Mac book pro." }, { "start": 117.48, "end": 119.2, "text": " I could just rub that all over my face." }, { "start": 119.2, "end": 120.2, "text": " So should we talk about that?" }, { "start": 120.2, "end": 121.92, "text": " So all right, let's talk about Apple." }, { "start": 121.92, "end": 124.16, "text": " So Apple, Apple had a thing this week." }, { "start": 124.16, "end": 125.16, "text": " I don't know if you guys are here." }, { "start": 125.16, "end": 126.16, "text": " Oh, okay, fine." }, { "start": 126.16, "end": 127.36, "text": " I am actually David Pierce." }, { "start": 127.36, "end": 129.44, "text": " Just so everyone knows before we get started here." }, { "start": 129.44, "end": 130.44, "text": " And I'm Ellis hamburger." }, { "start": 130.44, "end": 131.44, "text": " So no one is confused." }, { "start": 131.44, "end": 132.92000000000002, "text": " And he, that's, this is Paul Miller." }, { "start": 132.92000000000002, "end": 134.24, "text": " Yeah, I'm still Paul Miller." }, { "start": 134.24, "end": 135.52, "text": " No, I'm Chris Ziegler." }, { "start": 135.52, "end": 140.12, "text": " You may know me from a little show called the verge mobile show, which we do weekly" }, { "start": 140.12, "end": 141.12, "text": " on Tuesdays." }, { "start": 141.12, "end": 142.12, "text": " Haven't heard of it." }, { "start": 142.12, "end": 145.12, "text": " So a little, a little burn for my, for my programming." }, { "start": 145.12, "end": 146.12, "text": " Nice." }, { "start": 146.12, "end": 147.12, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 147.12, "end": 148.12, "text": " Apple, Apple." }, { "start": 148.12, "end": 149.12, "text": " So, okay." }, { "start": 149.12, "end": 151.84, "text": " So I want to know what was like, so I was actually at the event, but what was the like" }, { "start": 151.84, "end": 156.24, "text": " watching the, you know, the Twitters and the news and the stuff during the event, what" }, { "start": 156.24, "end": 157.24, "text": " was the mood like?" }, { "start": 157.24, "end": 161.6, "text": " Cause I feel like an hour after the event ended, everybody just was like, Oh, that was" }, { "start": 161.6, "end": 162.6, "text": " boring." }, { "start": 162.6, "end": 165.04000000000002, "text": " But like, did everybody say that during the event where people into it, what was going" }, { "start": 165.04000000000002, "end": 166.04000000000002, "text": " on?" }, { "start": 166.04000000000002, "end": 167.6, "text": " What do you think, Chris?" }, { "start": 167.6, "end": 172.84, "text": " Well, I think it played out exactly like every other Apple event in recent memory where it's" }, { "start": 172.84, "end": 177.5, "text": " like, there's this sense of where's the one more thing at the end." }, { "start": 177.5, "end": 181.48, "text": " And then you go into this like quiet reflection period and then you're like, Oh wait, I am" }, { "start": 181.48, "end": 185.72, "text": " actually going to buy everything that you give up and buy it." }, { "start": 185.72, "end": 187.04, "text": " And then they have a record quarter." }, { "start": 187.04, "end": 189.2, "text": " This is, this cycle just repeats itself every year." }, { "start": 189.2, "end": 194.07999999999998, "text": " Well, but the iPads, they, they went down, they sold fewer iPads than they did a year" }, { "start": 194.07999999999998, "end": 195.22, "text": " ago in the same quarter." }, { "start": 195.22, "end": 196.79999999999998, "text": " So like that's, you know," }, { "start": 196.8, "end": 197.8, "text": " That's what they're saying." }, { "start": 197.8, "end": 198.8, "text": " We had peak iPad, right?" }, { "start": 198.8, "end": 199.8, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 199.8, "end": 203.56, "text": " Well that's what, whoever they, they is, they is like Gene Munster." }, { "start": 203.56, "end": 204.56, "text": " Are you guys," }, { "start": 204.56, "end": 206.28, "text": " But they're going to make a television and then everything will be terrific." }, { "start": 206.28, "end": 209.84, "text": " Are you guys going to get an iPad mini with retina or are you going to get a iPad air?" }, { "start": 209.84, "end": 210.84, "text": " What's the story?" }, { "start": 210.84, "end": 211.84, "text": " I'm going to get the retina." }, { "start": 211.84, "end": 216.88000000000002, "text": " I, uh, when I got them, well I had the iPad three and I kept dropping it on my face when" }, { "start": 216.88000000000002, "end": 219.28, "text": " I was in bed, which was pretty much the only time I used 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249.64, "end": 251.04, "text": " that's the size of a textbook." }, { "start": 251.04, "end": 255.51999999999998, "text": " I'm really into the, the, the soft cover book size for reading something, whether it's a" }, { "start": 255.51999999999998, "end": 257.84, "text": " article or a book." }, { "start": 257.84, "end": 262.96, "text": " And so I inevitably ended up selling it while I was actually on a trip to San Francisco." }, { "start": 262.96, "end": 266.32, "text": " Uh, I just impulse sold it on eBay from San Francisco." }, { "start": 266.32, "end": 268.52, "text": " I was just hoping you were going to say, I like went out on the street corner." }, { "start": 268.52, "end": 270.44, "text": " I was like, I'm paying for sale and somebody's like mine." }, { "start": 270.44, "end": 272.76, "text": " You know what it's like to be a tech nerd." }, { "start": 272.76, "end": 274.52, "text": " I mean, when you need something, you need it." }, { "start": 274.52, "end": 275.52, "text": " 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shipping." }, { "start": 302.08, "end": 307.48, "text": " Did you do some Western union transfers and yeah, well yeah, we did some underhanded dealings" }, { "start": 307.48, "end": 309.24, "text": " and then he still had to pay this enormous." }, { "start": 309.24, "end": 310.24, "text": " It was ridiculous." }, { "start": 310.24, "end": 314.92, "text": " He had to pay like 30 bucks in tariffs when he, when he took delivery of it." }, { "start": 314.92, "end": 318.36, "text": " You have to like smuggle it in on a cargo ship and then like, you know, blackmail a" }, { "start": 318.36, "end": 320.08, "text": " dude to take it for you basically." }, { "start": 320.08, "end": 321.08, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 321.08, "end": 324.56, "text": " The problem is that I'm not a drug dealer in my, my day job, so I'm not familiar with" }, { "start": 324.56, "end": 325.56, "text": " all these tactics." }, { "start": 325.56, "end": 326.56, "text": " That's an enormous mistake." }, { "start": 326.56, "end": 327.56, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 327.56, "end": 328.56, "text": " And I also don't run a chop shop." }, { "start": 328.56, "end": 329.56, "text": " You should rethink a lot of things about your life." }, { "start": 329.56, "end": 330.72, "text": " I need to rethink my entire life." }, { "start": 330.72, "end": 335, "text": " So to answer the question, finally, um, I'll be getting the retina." }, { "start": 335, "end": 339.34, "text": " So what I found out was that I didn't use it much for reading or I used a, I use paper" }, { "start": 339.34, "end": 341.26, "text": " to draw stuff whenever I want to sketch things." }, { "start": 341.26, "end": 345.08, "text": " But aside from that, uh, I just really liked my phone so much." }, { "start": 345.08, "end": 349.56, "text": " I like being in bed and holding it four inches from my face and reading whatever I want to" }, { "start": 349.56, "end": 353.18, "text": " read and catching up on Twitter and I never am reaching into my bag." }, { "start": 353.18, "end": 356.8, "text": " But what I, when I am reaching for it is when I want to play star Wars, Knights of the Old" }, { "start": 356.8, "end": 359.92, "text": " Republic on iOS for 30 hours straight." }, { "start": 359.92, "end": 360.92, "text": " That game is terrible." }, { "start": 360.92, "end": 361.92, "text": " Are you kidding me?" }, { "start": 361.92, "end": 364.56, "text": " Just, just, just you can keep moving at that game is terrible." }, { "start": 364.56, "end": 365.56, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 365.56, "end": 366.56, "text": " We're going to have four minutes of that." }, { "start": 366.56, "end": 367.56, "text": " We're going to have a long talk." }, { "start": 367.56, "end": 371.88, "text": " I can't say that with any actual, we're going to have a long talk about nice field Republic." }, { "start": 371.88, "end": 377.4, "text": " Uh, one to specify, not to, uh, after the verge cast and it's going to get ugly." }, { "start": 377.4, "end": 378.4, "text": " It's going to come to blows." }, { "start": 378.4, "end": 382.4, "text": " Uh, I love the iPad mini as a game console." }, { "start": 382.4, "end": 383.4, "text": " I think it is fantastic." }, { "start": 383.4, "end": 387.96, "text": " And if you look at something like, uh, XCOM, uh, which is a great game." }, { "start": 387.96, "end": 392.2, "text": " It's a triple a game that hit iPad not too long after it hit consoles." }, { "start": 392.2, "end": 396.4, "text": " It was just a matter of months, which for Knights of the Old Republic took 10 years." }, { "start": 396.4, "end": 400.08, "text": " And uh, you know, the, the ironic thing is that it doesn't actually work well on the" }, { "start": 400.08, "end": 401.08, "text": " mini." }, { "start": 401.08, "end": 406.24, "text": " Uh, it needs more horsepower and so I'm going to go get the iPad retina mini with all the" }, { "start": 406.24, "end": 411.36, "text": " horsepower I could ever want and just play retro games, play Knights of the Old Republic," }, { "start": 411.36, "end": 416.68, "text": " play XCOM because it is just such a great size and it is so thin and so portable being" }, { "start": 416.68, "end": 423.40000000000003, "text": " on a plane with, with the set was at a seven, 7.9 7.9 inch screen is just fantastic." }, { "start": 423.40000000000003, "end": 426.16, "text": " It reminds me of having just this massive game gear in my hands." }, { "start": 426.16, "end": 427.52, "text": " How big was the screen on the game gear?" }, { "start": 427.52, "end": 428.52, "text": " It was tiny." }, { "start": 428.52, "end": 429.52, "text": " It was probably like an inch and a half." }, { "start": 429.52, "end": 430.52, "text": " Are you sure?" }, { "start": 430.52, "end": 432, "text": " It was really, I remember it being bigger." }, { "start": 432, "end": 437.4, "text": " Well, no, I also remember like, but like if you look at an at a nexus one now it's like" }, { "start": 437.4, "end": 439.8, "text": " 3.2 square inches." }, { "start": 439.8, "end": 443.2, "text": " Remember when square screens were a thing, I was like, are you telling me that the game" }, { "start": 443.2, "end": 446.12, "text": " gear screen was smaller than my iPhone screen?" }, { "start": 446.12, "end": 447.12, "text": " Yeah, like a lot smaller." }, { "start": 447.12, "end": 448.12, "text": " That's outrageous." }, { "start": 448.12, "end": 451.2, "text": " Anyway, but the game gear was like, I love the iPad mini as a game console and I think" }, { "start": 451.2, "end": 453.72, "text": " Apple's starting to really embrace that." }, { "start": 453.72, "end": 455.48, "text": " So I will be buying that." }, { "start": 455.48, "end": 456.48, "text": " There's your game gear by the way." }, { "start": 456.48, "end": 457.48, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 457.48, "end": 458.48, "text": " Oh Jesus." }, { "start": 458.48, "end": 459.48, "text": " Oh, they have some classics." }, { "start": 459.48, "end": 460.48, "text": " They got Mortal Kombat up there." }, { "start": 460.48, "end": 461.8, "text": " Now, do you guys remember?" }, { "start": 461.8, "end": 464.28000000000003, "text": " The backlit Sonic, it just could not be beat." }, { "start": 464.28000000000003, "end": 466.08, "text": " You could play it in the dark under your covers." }, { "start": 466.08, "end": 470.64, "text": " My favorite thing, my favorite thing about the game gear was that they had like the impossible" }, { "start": 470.64, "end": 474.48, "text": " to get white model that I think was only a Japanese import and if you wanted to spend" }, { "start": 474.48, "end": 478.16, "text": " like seven or $800 you could get it from Japan." }, { "start": 478.16, "end": 480.48, "text": " By which I'm assuming you did that." }, { "start": 480.48, "end": 482.56, "text": " You know what I wanted from Japan was the WonderSwan." }, { "start": 482.56, "end": 484.16, "text": " Have you heard of that?" }, { "start": 484.16, "end": 485.16, "text": " No." }, { "start": 485.16, "end": 486.16, "text": " Worst name console in the history of the game." }, { "start": 486.16, "end": 488.64000000000004, "text": " Yeah, I remember you talking about it." }, { "start": 488.64000000000004, "end": 489.64000000000004, "text": " That was the thing?" }, { "start": 489.64000000000004, "end": 490.64000000000004, "text": " Look at this." }, { "start": 490.64000000000004, "end": 491.64000000000004, "text": " Oh man." }, { "start": 491.64000000000004, "end": 492.64000000000004, "text": " It's the coolest." }, { "start": 492.64000000000004, "end": 493.64000000000004, "text": " It had all the..." }, { "start": 493.64000000000004, "end": 494.64000000000004, "text": " Why does it have two deep ads?" }, { "start": 494.64000000000004, "end": 495.64000000000004, "text": " That makes no sense." }, { "start": 495.64000000000004, "end": 497.84000000000003, "text": " It actually is two and a half, Chris." }, { "start": 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sense." }, { "start": 539.5200000000001, "end": 540.88, "text": " Do you guys still read a lot?" }, { "start": 540.88, "end": 542.12, "text": " I'm trying." }, { "start": 542.12, "end": 543.32, "text": " I'm reading more than I used to." }, { "start": 543.32, "end": 544.8000000000001, "text": " I used to not read anything." }, { "start": 544.8000000000001, "end": 545.8000000000001, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 545.8000000000001, "end": 548.96, "text": " I did this thing where for two years I read only the Hunger Games." }, { "start": 548.96, "end": 551.0400000000001, "text": " Those are the only books I read over the course of two years." }, { "start": 551.0400000000001, "end": 552.0400000000001, "text": " That's not something you admit on the air." }, { "start": 552.0400000000001, "end": 553.0400000000001, "text": " And everything else..." }, { "start": 553.0400000000001, "end": 554.0400000000001, "text": " Well, so I read..." }, { "start": 554.0400000000001, "end": 555.0400000000001, "text": " On some level, like read for a living." }, { "start": 555.0400000000001, "end": 556.0400000000001, "text": " There was a girl involved, I think." }, { "start": 556.0400000000001, "end": 557.6400000000001, "text": " So I read a lot of news." }, { "start": 557.6400000000001, "end": 559.0400000000001, "text": " I read magazine stuff." }, { "start": 559.0400000000001, "end": 560.0400000000001, "text": " I read a lot of magazines." }, { "start": 560.0400000000001, "end": 562.5600000000001, "text": " But I didn't read a book other than the Hunger Games for two years." }, { "start": 562.56, "end": 564.5999999999999, "text": " And I was like, I'm gonna read books." }, { "start": 564.5999999999999, "end": 568.18, "text": " So now I'm reading The Circle, Dave Eggers' new book." }, { "start": 568.18, "end": 569.64, "text": " And it's weird reading a book." }, { "start": 569.64, "end": 570.64, "text": " I get really antsy." }, { "start": 570.64, "end": 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599.96, "text": " I got through the piece." }, { "start": 599.96, "end": 600.96, "text": " But there's just..." }, { "start": 600.96, "end": 604.9200000000001, "text": " I feel like we've trained ourselves so hard to always be needing another stimulus." }, { "start": 604.9200000000001, "end": 609.08, "text": " And if the stimulus doesn't come, if growl doesn't notify you, if your pocket doesn't" }, { "start": 609.08, "end": 615.6400000000001, "text": " buzz, if you don't get some type of tweet deck notification, you're like, what's going" }, { "start": 615.6400000000001, "end": 616.6400000000001, "text": " on?" }, { "start": 616.6400000000001, "end": 617.6400000000001, "text": " I feel empty." }, { "start": 617.6400000000001, "end": 618.6400000000001, "text": " Inside." }, { "start": 618.64, "end": 620.16, "text": " I feel empty, right?" }, { "start": 620.16, "end": 625.52, "text": " And so it's hard to really immerse yourself in a book when you're just expecting that." }, { "start": 625.52, "end": 629.8, "text": " I think the last book I really, really got into was Ready Player One, probably because" }, { "start": 629.8, "end": 631.96, "text": " it played just like a video game." }, { "start": 631.96, "end": 633, "text": " And so I could..." }, { "start": 633, "end": 637.28, "text": " And I was reminded of how much fun it is to imagine these worlds for yourself." }, { "start": 637.28, "end": 639.72, "text": " But I feel like a lot of people have forgotten about that." }, { "start": 639.72, "end": 640.72, "text": " No, it's true." }, { "start": 640.72, "end": 643.4, "text": " And I mean, that's why I love the Paperwhite." }, { "start": 643.4, "end": 647.16, "text": " And I think the Paperwhite iPad Air combination is kind of perfect, especially because the" }, { "start": 647.16, "end": 649.56, "text": " iPad Air now is super portable." }, { "start": 649.56, "end": 654.16, "text": " It's ridiculous how light and thin and good you feel." }, { "start": 654.16, "end": 655.16, "text": " You fit in a manila envelope now." }, { "start": 655.16, "end": 656.16, "text": " It really can." }, { "start": 656.16, "end": 657.16, "text": " That's your original idea, right?" }, { "start": 657.16, "end": 658.16, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 658.16, "end": 659.16, "text": " Well, that was the MacBook Air initially, wasn't it?" }, { "start": 659.16, "end": 660.16, "text": " Oh, that's right." }, { "start": 660.16, "end": 661.16, "text": " That's right." }, { "start": 661.16, "end": 662.16, "text": " That's right." }, { "start": 662.16, "end": 663.16, "text": " I think now it's like they had the commercial where there's like a pencil and then the iPad" }, { "start": 663.16, "end": 664.16, "text": " appears beyond it." }, { "start": 664.16, "end": 665.16, "text": " With Brian Cranston." }, { "start": 665.16, "end": 666.16, "text": " With Brian Cranston." }, { "start": 666.16, "end": 667.16, "text": " Because why not?" }, { "start": 667.16, "end": 668.16, "text": " Because racist." }, { "start": 668.16, "end": 669.16, "text": " If it's good enough for Walter White, it's good enough for me." }, { "start": 669.16, "end": 670.16, "text": " That's all I have to say." }, { "start": 670.16, "end": 675.36, "text": " No, but so when I want to read, I read it in the Paperwhite for exactly the reason you" }, { "start": 675.36, "end": 679.48, "text": " just described, because if I don't get, like if I get one Twitter notification, I'm done." }, { "start": 679.48, "end": 680.48, "text": " It's game over." }, { "start": 680.48, "end": 681.48, "text": " It's over." }, { "start": 681.48, "end": 683.34, "text": " I'm not reading anymore and that was that." }, { "start": 683.34, "end": 689.14, "text": " Which is the worst gesture on the iPad, by the way, is the Minority Report style, fingers" }, { "start": 689.14, "end": 691.64, "text": " on the screen, swipe to the side for multitask." }, { "start": 691.64, "end": 692.64, "text": " Yep." }, { "start": 692.64, "end": 693.64, "text": " It's real dangerous." }, { "start": 693.64, "end": 697.04, "text": " You could just at any moment reading a book, no, but then I'm like, oh, I'm in Twitter." }, { "start": 697.04, "end": 698.04, "text": " I might as well check my email." }, { "start": 698.04, "end": 699.48, "text": " And then I'm like, oh, I'll just go look at the internet." }, { "start": 699.48, "end": 700.72, "text": " And then I'm like, oh, I'll just go watch TV." }, { "start": 700.72, "end": 701.72, "text": " And somehow I'm like, I feel way away." }, { "start": 701.72, "end": 704.12, "text": " Before you know it, you're like, what was I even doing?" }, { "start": 704.12, "end": 705.12, "text": " Yeah, right." }, { "start": 705.12, "end": 707.84, "text": " But so the Paperwhite I can actually use to read." }, { "start": 707.84, "end": 710.88, "text": " That's the only way I'm getting through this Dave Eggers book." }, { "start": 710.88, "end": 714.76, "text": " This is why I use a Chromebook, by the way, because you can't do anything but write." }, { "start": 714.76, "end": 716.52, "text": " Same reason." }, { "start": 716.52, "end": 717.92, "text": " That's fair." }, { "start": 717.92, "end": 721.2, "text": " Which we should also talk about Chromebooks because you may have, there may be a new one" }, { "start": 721.2, "end": 722.2, "text": " for you." }, { "start": 722.2, "end": 725.28, "text": " But so the reason I think the iPad Air is awesome is like for all the reasons you love" }, { "start": 725.28, "end": 727.4, "text": " the Mini, I think the Air is even better." }, { "start": 727.4, "end": 731.6800000000001, "text": " Like they're less different now, which is kind of weird because they have the same resolution" }, { "start": 731.6800000000001, "end": 732.6800000000001, "text": " screen." }, { "start": 732.6800000000001, "end": 733.6800000000001, "text": " They have the same processor." }, { "start": 733.6800000000001, "end": 734.6800000000001, "text": " Same guts." }, { "start": 734.68, "end": 736.8399999999999, "text": " Graphically, the Air should be better." }, { "start": 736.8399999999999, "end": 741.92, "text": " But like I don't think most games are like crippling the iPad as it is." }, { "start": 741.92, "end": 744.0799999999999, "text": " But the I don't know." }, { "start": 744.0799999999999, "end": 745.9399999999999, "text": " It's like $100 for a bigger screen." }, { "start": 745.9399999999999, "end": 746.9399999999999, "text": " And that's cool." }, { "start": 746.9399999999999, "end": 747.9399999999999, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 747.9399999999999, "end": 748.9399999999999, "text": " But I don't know." }, { "start": 748.9399999999999, "end": 752.7199999999999, "text": " I think most people are going to buy the Mini, even though it's way more expensive than it" }, { "start": 752.7199999999999, "end": 753.7199999999999, "text": " should be." }, { "start": 753.7199999999999, "end": 754.7199999999999, "text": " But I'm going to buy it." }, { "start": 754.7199999999999, "end": 755.7199999999999, "text": " It starts at $399, right?" }, { "start": 755.7199999999999, "end": 756.7199999999999, "text": " Yeah, which is a lot." }, { "start": 756.7199999999999, "end": 757.7199999999999, "text": " You know what else starts at $399?" }, { "start": 757.7199999999999, "end": 758.7199999999999, "text": " To bump that up $70?" }, { "start": 758.7199999999999, "end": 759.7199999999999, "text": " The iPad 2?" }, { "start": 759.7199999999999, "end": 760.7199999999999, "text": " Well, yeah." }, { "start": 760.72, "end": 765.44, "text": " That's just new hardware or old hardware." }, { "start": 765.44, "end": 766.44, "text": " You choose." }, { "start": 766.44, "end": 767.44, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 767.44, "end": 768.44, "text": " Congratulations." }, { "start": 768.44, "end": 773.52, "text": " Before we go to the iPad 2, which is interesting and Sean had a great piece on this." }, { "start": 773.52, "end": 778.76, "text": " So tell me why you think you like the iPad Air more." }, { "start": 778.76, "end": 779.8000000000001, "text": " It's the same." }, { "start": 779.8000000000001, "end": 780.9200000000001, "text": " It's the same amount of pixels." }, { "start": 780.9200000000001, "end": 784.12, "text": " It's the same guts as the iPad Mini." }, { "start": 784.12, "end": 786.0400000000001, "text": " It just is a screen size different." }, { "start": 786.0400000000001, "end": 789.78, "text": " They even made the bezels exactly the same." }, { "start": 789.78, "end": 791.86, "text": " Why do you, I mean, is bigger just better?" }, { "start": 791.86, "end": 794.8, "text": " So for me, it's 100% a use case thing." }, { "start": 794.8, "end": 800.88, "text": " Like if I, my small, so I use an iPad and an iPad Mini pretty regularly." }, { "start": 800.88, "end": 804.64, "text": " And when I'm on the iPad, I'm always either playing a game or watching a movie." }, { "start": 804.64, "end": 806.9599999999999, "text": " 95% of the time I'm doing one of those two things." }, { "start": 806.9599999999999, "end": 808.8, "text": " On the iPad Mini, I'm reading." }, { "start": 808.8, "end": 811.28, "text": " And the Paperwhite has totally replaced that for me." }, { "start": 811.28, "end": 813.52, "text": " It's just a better reading device." }, { "start": 813.52, "end": 817.22, "text": " And the bigger iPad, just by virtue of having more screen real estate, and this might be" }, { "start": 817.22, "end": 822.0600000000001, "text": " less true now that there's a retina mini and it has the same number of pixels and same" }, { "start": 822.0600000000001, "end": 824.6800000000001, "text": " super long battery life and same processor." }, { "start": 824.6800000000001, "end": 831.44, "text": " But having more screen is just, I think, objectively better for watching a movie and for playing" }, { "start": 831.44, "end": 832.44, "text": " a game." }, { "start": 832.44, "end": 835.28, "text": " And that's like, those are the two things I need a big tablet to do." }, { "start": 835.28, "end": 836.28, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 836.28, "end": 838.28, "text": " And you know, the iPad 3 and the iPad 4." }, { "start": 838.28, "end": 840.08, "text": " Magazines look so good on that big iPad." }, { "start": 840.08, "end": 846.32, "text": " You know, honestly, the Wall Street Journal app has taken a lot of heat in the past, but" }, { "start": 846.32, "end": 847.32, "text": " I actually love it." }, { "start": 847.32, "end": 850, "text": " Like, I think it looks and works great on the iPad." }, { "start": 850, "end": 851, "text": " Don't love the iPhone app." }, { "start": 851, "end": 852, "text": " You're just reading about your stocks all day." }, { "start": 852, "end": 853, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 853, "end": 854, "text": " Bye." }, { "start": 854, "end": 855, "text": " I'm on a beach trading stocks." }, { "start": 855, "end": 862.5200000000001, "text": " No, 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air gap on the display of the 3 and 4?" }, { "start": 887.2800000000001, "end": 889.12, "text": " Because it's insane on the 3 and 4." }, { "start": 889.12, "end": 890.88, "text": " So, okay, so these rooms..." }, { "start": 890.88, "end": 893.84, "text": " Let me just paint you a picture of this room at the Apple event." }, { "start": 893.84, "end": 894.84, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 894.84, "end": 898.08, "text": " It was a big black tent with two wooden tables in the middle of it." }, { "start": 898.08, "end": 899.08, "text": " And so, with..." }, { "start": 899.08, "end": 903.0400000000001, "text": " And 100,000 people all with big cameras shooting things." }, { "start": 903.0400000000001, "end": 904.0400000000001, "text": " So I have no idea." }, { "start": 904.0400000000001, "end": 905.0400000000001, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 905.04, "end": 907.56, "text": " So I got to look at it and kind of go like this for a few minutes." }, { "start": 907.56, "end": 908.8399999999999, "text": " And it looked really nice." }, { "start": 908.8399999999999, "end": 909.8399999999999, "text": " But I don't know." }, { "start": 909.8399999999999, "end": 910.8399999999999, "text": " I hope so." }, { "start": 910.8399999999999, "end": 914.52, "text": " But I get like every single manufacturer on the planet is like, we've solved reflections" }, { "start": 914.52, "end": 915.52, "text": " on screens." }, { "start": 915.52, "end": 916.52, "text": " And it's like, no, you didn't." }, { "start": 916.52, "end": 917.52, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 917.52, "end": 918.52, "text": " That is a lie." }, { "start": 918.52, "end": 919.52, "text": " Is this a term I'm not familiar with?" }, { "start": 919.52, "end": 924.24, "text": " Well, it's like, you know how on the iPhone and on any high-end phone these days, like," }, { "start": 924.24, "end": 927.16, "text": " there's no gap between the glass and the actual display." }, { "start": 927.16, "end": 928.5999999999999, "text": " It's like laminated to it, right?" }, { "start": 928.5999999999999, "end": 929.5999999999999, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 929.5999999999999, "end": 930.5999999999999, "text": " And on the iPad Air 4..." }, { "start": 930.5999999999999, "end": 933.3399999999999, "text": " And so the point is what that does is that makes it so it doesn't reflect light as much," }, { "start": 933.34, "end": 937.0400000000001, "text": " because there are just fewer surfaces and there's fewer gaps for it to reflect." }, { "start": 937.0400000000001, "end": 938.0400000000001, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 938.0400000000001, "end": 941.9200000000001, "text": " And so the closer you get those two things together, the less reflection you get." }, { "start": 941.9200000000001, "end": 944.64, "text": " And so Amazon comes out and they're like, you can read our tablet on the beach just" }, { "start": 944.64, "end": 946.0400000000001, "text": " like our Kindles." }, { "start": 946.0400000000001, "end": 947.0400000000001, "text": " And it's just a lie." }, { "start": 947.0400000000001, "end": 948.4, "text": " And I'm pretty sure Apple says the same thing." }, { "start": 948.4, "end": 949.4, "text": " And it's just a lie." }, { "start": 949.4, "end": 950.4, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 950.4, "end": 951.4, "text": " Because it always is." }, { "start": 951.4, "end": 952.4, "text": " But I hope so." }, { "start": 952.4, "end": 953.4, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 953.4, "end": 954.4, "text": " It'd be neat." }, { "start": 954.4, "end": 955.4, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 955.4, "end": 956.4, "text": " And they've mostly done it with the iPhone." }, { "start": 956.4, "end": 957.4000000000001, "text": " Although that thing, I cannot..." }, { "start": 957.4000000000001, "end": 958.8000000000001, "text": " I have to turn the brightness all the way up before I can see it outdoors at all." }, { "start": 958.8000000000001, "end": 960.8000000000001, "text": " And then all you're seeing is your fingerprints among this." }, { "start": 960.8000000000001, "end": 961.8000000000001, "text": " Yeah, pretty much." }, { "start": 961.8000000000001, "end": 962.8000000000001, "text": " It's really lovely." }, { "start": 962.8, "end": 965.0799999999999, "text": " I think I've heard are worse on the 5S than on the 5." }, { "start": 965.0799999999999, "end": 971.52, "text": " I don't know why that would be, but I've heard talk that it doesn't repel fingerprints as" }, { "start": 971.52, "end": 972.52, "text": " well." }, { "start": 972.52, "end": 973.52, "text": " It's not as, quote, oleophobic." }, { "start": 973.52, "end": 974.52, "text": " All right, let's move on." }, { "start": 974.52, "end": 975.52, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 975.52, "end": 982.4, "text": " So, Ellis, you wrote a thing about Microsoft and Google and iWork." }, { "start": 982.4, "end": 983.4, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 983.4, "end": 985.04, "text": " That we got..." }, { "start": 985.04, "end": 988.7199999999999, "text": " I like to take credit for the fact that Microsoft's Frank Shaw got super duper angry about the" }, { "start": 988.7199999999999, "end": 989.7199999999999, "text": " whole thing." }, { "start": 989.7199999999999, "end": 990.7199999999999, "text": " And why you take credit for this?" }, { "start": 990.7199999999999, "end": 991.7199999999999, "text": " I think you made him get very angry." }, { "start": 991.72, "end": 993, "text": " I think I've decided it was your piece." }, { "start": 993, "end": 994, "text": " So tell us..." }, { "start": 994, "end": 995.72, "text": " No, dude, my piece was after that." }, { "start": 995.72, "end": 996.72, "text": " Was it?" }, { "start": 996.72, "end": 997.72, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 997.72, "end": 998.72, "text": " Yeah, but Frank Shaw..." }, { "start": 998.72, "end": 999.72, "text": " He just saw it coming." }, { "start": 999.72, "end": 1000.72, "text": " Yeah, well, Frank Shaw..." }, { "start": 1000.72, "end": 1001.72, "text": " He was like, I bet Ellis is writing something." }, { "start": 1001.72, "end": 1002.72, "text": " I gotta get out in front of this." }, { "start": 1002.72, "end": 1006.5600000000001, "text": " No, he went forward in time about 24 hours, saw the piece, then went back in time and" }, { "start": 1006.5600000000001, "end": 1007.5600000000001, "text": " wrote the article." }, { "start": 1007.5600000000001, "end": 1015.6800000000001, "text": " So here's the thesis of the piece, which I clearly didn't communicate well enough to" }, { "start": 1015.6800000000001, "end": 1018.4, "text": " many of our friendly Verge commenters." }, { "start": 1018.4, "end": 1019.76, "text": " But in a nutshell..." }, { "start": 1019.76, "end": 1021.36, "text": " Wow, this is 900 comments." }, { "start": 1021.36, "end": 1022.36, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1022.36, "end": 1023.36, "text": " Are people mad?" }, { "start": 1023.36, "end": 1024.3600000000001, "text": " They're real mad?" }, { "start": 1024.3600000000001, "end": 1025.3600000000001, "text": " You know, actually, they're not mad at me." }, { "start": 1025.3600000000001, "end": 1026.3600000000001, "text": " That's actually the first time that's ever happened on our site." }, { "start": 1026.3600000000001, "end": 1029, "text": " They're mad at each other, which means I did something right." }, { "start": 1029, "end": 1035.04, "text": " I created a comparison with valid sides, hopefully." }, { "start": 1035.04, "end": 1037.52, "text": " They're just mad at the world." }, { "start": 1037.52, "end": 1038.52, "text": " This is true." }, { "start": 1038.52, "end": 1045.1200000000001, "text": " So anyway, my argument was that Apple, for a lot of Apple features since the days of" }, { "start": 1045.1200000000001, "end": 1050.48, "text": " Steve Jobs, they want the marketing to be on point for everything." }, { "start": 1050.48, "end": 1053.76, "text": " Remember when he pitched the iPhone, he said, it's a phone." }, { "start": 1053.76, "end": 1056.04, "text": " It's an internet browser." }, { "start": 1056.04, "end": 1057.04, "text": " It's a communication." }, { "start": 1057.04, "end": 1058.32, "text": " Or it's an iPod." }, { "start": 1058.32, "end": 1059.82, "text": " It's a phone." }, { "start": 1059.82, "end": 1062.92, "text": " It's a communication device." }, { "start": 1062.92, "end": 1063.92, "text": " Whatever it was that he said." }, { "start": 1063.92, "end": 1067.2, "text": " Yeah, they're always super clear on this is what this is." }, { "start": 1067.2, "end": 1068.2, "text": " Here's the messaging." }, { "start": 1068.2, "end": 1072.48, "text": " He's laying out the very specific scenarios when you're gonna use this product." }, { "start": 1072.48, "end": 1079.32, "text": " And it's arguable that Apple is or isn't afraid of the Surface and Microsoft." }, { "start": 1079.32, "end": 1080.56, "text": " They certainly don't seem to be afraid." }, { "start": 1080.56, "end": 1083.52, "text": " Tim Cook got up there and just burned the Surface left and right for an hour." }, { "start": 1083.52, "end": 1085.72, "text": " So let's say they're not afraid of the hardware." }, { "start": 1085.72, "end": 1091.56, "text": " What if they're saying maybe their marketing is a little on point with here is the next" }, { "start": 1091.56, "end": 1094.84, "text": " generation of productivity tools." }, { "start": 1094.84, "end": 1098.6799999999998, "text": " It's a tablet or it's a tablet hybrid or what have you." }, { "start": 1098.6799999999998, "end": 1104.48, "text": " And before Apple made iWork Free, they couldn't really say that out of the box, this is for" }, { "start": 1104.48, "end": 1106.96, "text": " word processing and spreadsheets and run your business." }, { "start": 1106.96, "end": 1111.88, "text": " And now in a second, they probably lose very little money on making those apps free even" }, { "start": 1111.88, "end": 1114.52, "text": " though some of them were five or ten dollars." }, { "start": 1114.52, "end": 1120.72, "text": " All of a sudden Apple and Microsoft can now both say, here's our productivity machine" }, { "start": 1120.72, "end": 1121.72, "text": " out of the box." }, { "start": 1121.72, "end": 1123.3600000000001, "text": " You can do whatever you need to do." }, { "start": 1123.3600000000001, "end": 1129.32, "text": " Whether it's making a photo book or making a book report or a document." }, { "start": 1129.32, "end": 1131.92, "text": " So that was kind of my idea behind why they did that." }, { "start": 1131.92, "end": 1137.44, "text": " They're thinking about this very holistically in terms of the scenario and the way that" }, { "start": 1137.44, "end": 1138.72, "text": " they're going to market this to people." }, { "start": 1138.72, "end": 1143.8400000000001, "text": " Like their sizzle reel they had, they had a guy sticking out of a wind turbine using" }, { "start": 1143.8400000000001, "end": 1146.0800000000002, "text": " his iPad doing work." }, { "start": 1146.0800000000002, "end": 1147.5600000000002, "text": " They're saying this isn't just for a temple run." }, { "start": 1147.5600000000002, "end": 1148.5600000000002, "text": " And there's a dude on a farm." }, { "start": 1148.5600000000002, "end": 1149.5600000000002, "text": " And a woman hanging out of the cliff." }, { "start": 1149.5600000000002, "end": 1150.5600000000002, "text": " And a woman hanging out." }, { "start": 1150.5600000000002, "end": 1151.5600000000002, "text": " That was awesome." }, { "start": 1151.5600000000002, "end": 1152.5600000000002, "text": " That was my job." }, { "start": 1152.5600000000002, "end": 1155.7, "text": " That last shot, I was like, every time I see those, I'm like, you are a crazy person." }, { "start": 1155.7, "end": 1157.2, "text": " Not possible before the iPad." }, { "start": 1157.2, "end": 1158.64, "text": " You can't hang off a cliff." }, { "start": 1158.64, "end": 1160.14, "text": " There were no tents before the iPad." }, { "start": 1160.14, "end": 1161.14, "text": " That's actually true." }, { "start": 1161.14, "end": 1162.48, "text": " The iPad invented tents." }, { "start": 1162.48, "end": 1163.48, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1163.48, "end": 1167.72, "text": " So Tim Cook said we're turning the market on its ear by offering both Mavericks and" }, { "start": 1167.72, "end": 1173.88, "text": " our quote premium, which I think a lot of people would disagree with, productivity apps" }, { "start": 1173.88, "end": 1174.88, "text": " for free." }, { "start": 1174.88, "end": 1179.96, "text": " I mean, the point is, right, I think that Apple is, there's still sort of this idea" }, { "start": 1179.96, "end": 1183.16, "text": " coming especially from other companies, but also just out there in the world that the" }, { "start": 1183.16, "end": 1184.64, "text": " iPad is a consumption device." }, { "start": 1184.64, "end": 1186.94, "text": " Like that was the burn at the beginning." }, { "start": 1186.94, "end": 1189.8400000000001, "text": " And I think it's objectively less and less true." }, { "start": 1189.84, "end": 1191.84, "text": " Editors and pundits." }, { "start": 1191.84, "end": 1194.84, "text": " That was like the thing everybody said was like, oh, it's good for watching movies, but" }, { "start": 1194.84, "end": 1196.12, "text": " it's not going to replace your laptop." }, { "start": 1196.12, "end": 1198.72, "text": " And I think Apple thinks it can and will." }, { "start": 1198.72, "end": 1203.28, "text": " And this is their way of saying, well, you know, you want to do email and documents and" }, { "start": 1203.28, "end": 1204.28, "text": " spreadsheets." }, { "start": 1204.28, "end": 1209.56, "text": " Well, what's really funny to me about this whole thing is that I think one of the biggest" }, { "start": 1209.56, "end": 1215.72, "text": " things that has enabled the iPad to become a productivity device is the third party keyboard" }, { "start": 1215.72, "end": 1216.72, "text": " cover." }, { "start": 1216.72, "end": 1217.72, "text": " And it was widely." }, { "start": 1217.72, "end": 1218.72, "text": " And we thought they were going to make one." }, { "start": 1218.72, "end": 1219.72, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 1219.72, "end": 1223.96, "text": " And instead, you know, they spend a good, what they spent like 20 minutes on iWork or" }, { "start": 1223.96, "end": 1224.96, "text": " something." }, { "start": 1224.96, "end": 1225.96, "text": " They spent a long time talking about it." }, { "start": 1225.96, "end": 1229, "text": " They spent long, they did like individual feature demos for each one." }, { "start": 1229, "end": 1231.6000000000001, "text": " They were like making fun of Eddie Q, which was kind of amazing." }, { "start": 1231.6000000000001, "end": 1232.6000000000001, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1232.6000000000001, "end": 1233.6000000000001, "text": " That was the best part of the whole thing." }, { "start": 1233.6000000000001, "end": 1234.6000000000001, "text": " That was pretty good." }, { "start": 1234.6000000000001, "end": 1235.6000000000001, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1235.6000000000001, "end": 1239.48, "text": " Where they kept adjusting his invitation and they didn't reveal any accessories that helped" }, { "start": 1239.48, "end": 1241.8600000000001, "text": " make the iPad a better productivity device." }, { "start": 1241.8600000000001, "end": 1245.28, "text": " So there's still, I guess, relying on third party vendors or assuming that people are" }, { "start": 1245.28, "end": 1247.44, "text": " just going to use their fingers." }, { "start": 1247.44, "end": 1248.44, "text": " Dude, iPad Pro." }, { "start": 1248.44, "end": 1249.44, "text": " It's coming." }, { "start": 1249.44, "end": 1250.44, "text": " Yeah, there is." }, { "start": 1250.44, "end": 1254.56, "text": " I think I can't think of a reason that they decide to call it the iPad air unless there" 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iPad?" }, { "start": 1276.68, "end": 1279.6000000000001, "text": " And like they got very sort of stern all of a sudden looked at us." }, { "start": 1279.6000000000001, "end": 1281.48, "text": " They're like, we already make a big iPad." }, { "start": 1281.48, "end": 1282.48, "text": " It's called the Mac book air." }, { "start": 1282.48, "end": 1286.88, "text": " We were like, oh, oh, you're saying it's going to be bigger and have a keyboard or some new" }, { "start": 1286.88, "end": 1287.88, "text": " input device." }, { "start": 1287.88, "end": 1288.88, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 1288.88, "end": 1290.3200000000002, "text": " Well, you have to agree with you." }, { "start": 1290.3200000000002, "end": 1293.68, "text": " I mean, and Apple used to make a keyboard for the iPad." }, { "start": 1293.68, "end": 1296.68, "text": " Like that long ago there was, they made a keyboard dock and it was like a big thing" }, { "start": 1296.68, "end": 1301.16, "text": " that they sold with the remade it and it's, they might, but it's totally absent from their" }, { "start": 1301.16, "end": 1302.16, "text": " marketing." }, { "start": 1302.16, "end": 1303.16, "text": " They don't talk about it." }, { "start": 1303.16, "end": 1304.22, "text": " It's not really there." }, { "start": 1304.22, "end": 1308.96, "text": " But it just doesn't make sense that if it, that it's not coming, like that's such an" }, { "start": 1308.96, "end": 1310.7, "text": " obvious thing for them to do." }, { "start": 1310.7, "end": 1313.28, "text": " And it's not like there are keyboards everywhere." }, { "start": 1313.28, "end": 1318.04, "text": " I was on the plane coming back from that event and there were like a dozen people on my flight" }, { "start": 1318.04, "end": 1319.6000000000001, "text": " with iPads and keyboards." }, { "start": 1319.6000000000001, "end": 1320.6000000000001, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1320.6000000000001, "end": 1321.6000000000001, "text": " And it's such an obvious thing." }, { "start": 1321.6000000000001, "end": 1322.6000000000001, "text": " It's so obvious." }, { "start": 1322.6000000000001, "end": 1323.6000000000001, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1323.6000000000001, "end": 1324.6000000000001, "text": " Just make a smart cover with a keyboard on the inside." }, { "start": 1324.6000000000001, "end": 1325.6000000000001, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1325.6000000000001, "end": 1326.6000000000001, "text": " Logitech is fantastic." }, { "start": 1326.6000000000001, "end": 1327.6000000000001, "text": " I've heard this." }, { "start": 1327.6000000000001, "end": 1328.6000000000001, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1328.6000000000001, "end": 1329.6000000000001, "text": " But, but here's, here's my one thing." }, { "start": 1329.6000000000001, "end": 1330.6000000000001, "text": " They should just buy Logitech." }, { "start": 1330.6000000000001, "end": 1331.6000000000001, "text": " They should." }, { "start": 1331.6000000000001, "end": 1334.2, "text": " I mean, we've heard the rumors they're going to do the gaming controller together at Logitech." }, { "start": 1334.2, "end": 1335.8, "text": " That makes a pretty good universal remote." }, { "start": 1335.8, "end": 1338.64, "text": " And Logitech is not in the best shape." }, { "start": 1338.64, "end": 1339.64, "text": " They're not doing so great." }, { "start": 1339.64, "end": 1342.4, "text": " They just offloaded Harmony recently to generate some cash." }, { "start": 1342.4, "end": 1343.98, "text": " I mean, this is definitely happening, right?" }, { "start": 1343.98, "end": 1345.52, "text": " So they're just going to buy a Logitech." }, { "start": 1345.52, "end": 1346.52, "text": " That's right that time." }, { "start": 1346.52, "end": 1347.52, "text": " We heard it here first." }, { "start": 1347.52, "end": 1348.52, "text": " Breaking news." }, { "start": 1348.52, "end": 1354.8600000000001, "text": " Here's the thing about a Mac or excuse me, an iPad pro is you start to run into price" }, { "start": 1354.8600000000001, "end": 1360.24, "text": " pressure between, cause you know, obviously you're pricing it above the iPad Air and the" }, { "start": 1360.24, "end": 1366.44, "text": " bottom of the line a MacBook Air is 999 and they're easy to find for 899." }, { "start": 1366.44, "end": 1368.8, "text": " Best Buy always has them on sale for 899." }, { "start": 1368.8, "end": 1373.6, "text": " But there's that like save 699, 749 sweet spot where Apple doesn't sell anything." }, { "start": 1373.6, "end": 1378.96, "text": " Like you can buy a super spec'd out iPad and today they don't release the skews I guess," }, { "start": 1378.96, "end": 1380.8, "text": " but I can't imagine very many people buy those." }, { "start": 1380.8, "end": 1385.52, "text": " But like if they could sell an entry level product at that price, it's like that just" }, { "start": 1385.52, "end": 1386.52, "text": " makes sense." }, { "start": 1386.52, "end": 1389.88, "text": " And they have everything else up to like five grand, but not that." }, { "start": 1389.88, "end": 1391.7600000000002, "text": " It seems mostly I just want one." }, { "start": 1391.7600000000002, "end": 1392.7600000000002, "text": " I don't know why." }, { "start": 1392.7600000000002, "end": 1396.1200000000001, "text": " I don't know what I do with it because I have a MacBook Air that I use all the time, but" }, { "start": 1396.1200000000001, "end": 1397.1200000000001, "text": " I want one." }, { "start": 1397.1200000000001, "end": 1398.5200000000002, "text": " So let's talk about this real quick." }, { "start": 1398.5200000000002, "end": 1406.64, "text": " One of Microsoft and one of Microsoft's arguments here is that you cannot be productive unless" }, { "start": 1406.64, "end": 1408.64, "text": " you can have windows side by side." }, { "start": 1408.64, "end": 1410.3200000000002, "text": " How do you guys feel about that?" }, { "start": 1410.3200000000002, "end": 1413.6000000000001, "text": " I have never once in my life put two documents side by side." }, { "start": 1413.6000000000001, "end": 1415.48, "text": " I don't know what the use case is for that." }, { "start": 1415.48, "end": 1416.48, "text": " That's what they keep saying." }, { "start": 1416.48, "end": 1418.24, "text": " They say it in surface marketing." }, { "start": 1418.24, "end": 1421.88, "text": " They say it in Shaw's post." }, { "start": 1421.88, "end": 1424.1200000000001, "text": " What do you guys do that for?" }, { "start": 1424.1200000000001, "end": 1425.4, "text": " When you're copy pasting." }, { "start": 1425.4, "end": 1428.6, "text": " When you're, you know, this is a lot of copying and pasting." }, { "start": 1428.6, "end": 1431.32, "text": " This is all Tab is for, bro." }, { "start": 1431.32, "end": 1433.26, "text": " I never use Alt Tab." }, { "start": 1433.26, "end": 1434.26, "text": " You never use Alt Tab." }, { "start": 1434.26, "end": 1436.1, "text": " You darn feather me." }, { "start": 1436.1, "end": 1437.6, "text": " So what do you just click on windows?" }, { "start": 1437.6, "end": 1438.6, "text": " What do you do?" }, { "start": 1438.6, "end": 1442.88, "text": " I do gestures." }, { "start": 1442.88, "end": 1445.68, "text": " No I do this." }, { "start": 1445.68, "end": 1448.52, "text": " I mean really most of my stuff is in Chrome." }, { "start": 1448.52, "end": 1450.6000000000001, "text": " You just expose all day." }, { "start": 1450.6000000000001, "end": 1453.52, "text": " No I click in my, in my doc over here." }, { "start": 1453.52, "end": 1454.52, "text": " This is the worst." }, { "start": 1454.52, "end": 1456.1200000000001, "text": " I am a, I do some productivity though." }, { "start": 1456.1200000000001, "end": 1458.96, "text": " I got my Alfred set up." }, { "start": 1458.96, "end": 1459.96, "text": " I'm done with you." }, { "start": 1459.96, "end": 1463, "text": " For those who don't know about Alfred, Alfred is the coolest." }, { "start": 1463, "end": 1464.8400000000001, "text": " And Dieter Bow knows everything about Alfred." }, { "start": 1464.8400000000001, "end": 1467.5600000000002, "text": " Launcher basically replaces spotlight." }, { "start": 1467.5600000000002, "end": 1471.96, "text": " So when you hit command space, you can type in basically whatever you want, whether it" }, { "start": 1471.96, "end": 1474.1200000000001, "text": " has to do with your own computer or the web." }, { "start": 1474.12, "end": 1475.6, "text": " What happens if I Alfred L.S. Hamburger?" }, { "start": 1475.6, "end": 1478.84, "text": " And I got, I got David's stuff in my Alfred." }, { "start": 1478.84, "end": 1480.76, "text": " I can Amazon search for L.S. Hamburger." }, { "start": 1480.76, "end": 1482.84, "text": " Yeah and you get local files that come up." }, { "start": 1482.84, "end": 1484.1999999999998, "text": " You can do custom searches." }, { "start": 1484.1999999999998, "end": 1488.8, "text": " So I think a lot of us at the verge, we have one set up where you hit V then space, then" }, { "start": 1488.8, "end": 1492.32, "text": " you type in your term and it does a Google site search for the verge." }, { "start": 1492.32, "end": 1493.32, "text": " All sorts of cool stuff." }, { "start": 1493.32, "end": 1494.32, "text": " So anyway." }, { "start": 1494.32, "end": 1495.32, "text": " Alfred's awesome." }, { "start": 1495.32, "end": 1496.9599999999998, "text": " You were about to say that you do the multitasking." }, { "start": 1496.9599999999998, "end": 1498.7199999999998, "text": " So I do all the time." }, { "start": 1498.7199999999998, "end": 1500.6399999999999, "text": " Like research thing I'm writing." }, { "start": 1500.6399999999999, "end": 1502.3999999999999, "text": " Just that's where I live." }, { "start": 1502.3999999999999, "end": 1503.8799999999999, "text": " And I use Divi to do it on the Mac." }, { "start": 1503.88, "end": 1504.88, "text": " It's great." }, { "start": 1504.88, "end": 1508.3200000000002, "text": " But so while we're talking about Windows, it was kind of a big week for Windows and" }, { "start": 1508.3200000000002, "end": 1511.7600000000002, "text": " Windows phone and Microsoft and Nokia also." }, { "start": 1511.7600000000002, "end": 1515.92, "text": " And so there was a surface two that was this week." }, { "start": 1515.92, "end": 1517.72, "text": " And the surface pro two." }, { "start": 1517.72, "end": 1519.44, "text": " Nokia did stuff at Nokia world." }, { "start": 1519.44, "end": 1521.92, "text": " New tablets, new phones, apps, Instagram." }, { "start": 1521.92, "end": 1522.92, "text": " It's coming to Windows phone." }, { "start": 1522.92, "end": 1526.3200000000002, "text": " Life changing and vine, which looked awful." }, { "start": 1526.3200000000002, "end": 1527.3200000000002, "text": " Am I crazy?" }, { "start": 1527.3200000000002, "end": 1530.2, "text": " Like I missed that a little in the, in the like before we were fine." }, { "start": 1530.2, "end": 1534.04, "text": " But I saw it and I was like, oh no, they're trying to do like a Windows phone looking" }, { "start": 1534.04, "end": 1535.92, "text": " vine and it just doesn't work." }, { "start": 1535.92, "end": 1536.92, "text": " They're calling it Vinay." }, { "start": 1536.92, "end": 1537.92, "text": " Sorry." }, { "start": 1537.92, "end": 1540.92, "text": " That was a horrible, horrible joke." }, { "start": 1540.92, "end": 1542.28, "text": " No, but okay." }, { "start": 1542.28, "end": 1545.52, "text": " So the, the Nokia stuff I think is, is super interesting." }, { "start": 1545.52, "end": 1548.4, "text": " Like it mostly because it doesn't make any sense to me." }, { "start": 1548.4, "end": 1554.8, "text": " I mean, you brought it back by yourself every time they, yeah." }, { "start": 1554.8, "end": 1558, "text": " Every time they release a phone, not in cyan, I complain about it." }, { "start": 1558, "end": 1559.52, "text": " And then the next phone is in cyan." }, { "start": 1559.52, "end": 1563.8, "text": " And so now the, the 25 20 is prominently in cyan." }, { "start": 1563.8, "end": 1564.8, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1564.8, "end": 1567.52, "text": " So that was also the best color for your character in halo one." }, { "start": 1567.52, "end": 1568.52, "text": " Let it be known." }, { "start": 1568.52, "end": 1569.52, "text": " I am." }, { "start": 1569.52, "end": 1570.52, "text": " That was the first time I learned that word." }, { "start": 1570.52, "end": 1572.52, "text": " I can't, I can't refute that." }, { "start": 1572.52, "end": 1573.52, "text": " Uh, okay." }, { "start": 1573.52, "end": 1575.72, "text": " So is, does any of that stuff matter?" }, { "start": 1575.72, "end": 1576.72, "text": " Do we care about Nokia?" }, { "start": 1576.72, "end": 1580.36, "text": " Nokia, I feel like is this weird dead company that's about to get bought by Microsoft and" }, { "start": 1580.36, "end": 1584.72, "text": " they make things, but they might not make things anymore, but these things exist, but" }, { "start": 1584.72, "end": 1586, "text": " I don't know how long they'll exist." }, { "start": 1586, "end": 1587.96, "text": " I'm very confused by Nokia right now." }, { "start": 1587.96, "end": 1592.68, "text": " You know, I think that they felt like they needed to compete in the, um, the phablet" }, { "start": 1592.68, "end": 1593.68, "text": " market." }, { "start": 1593.68, "end": 1598.08, "text": " Um, if Neelai were here, he'd literally punched me for saying phablet." }, { "start": 1598.08, "end": 1602.08, "text": " Um, but you should produce, you should punch yourself for saying phablet, but we need a" }, { "start": 1602.08, "end": 1603.08, "text": " better word." }, { "start": 1603.08, "end": 1605.3400000000001, "text": " Can we come up with a better word for phablet right now?" }, { "start": 1605.3400000000001, "end": 1606.3400000000001, "text": " Extremely large phone." }, { "start": 1606.3400000000001, "end": 1607.3400000000001, "text": " Excel phone." }, { "start": 1607.3400000000001, "end": 1608.3400000000001, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 1608.3400000000001, "end": 1614.04, "text": " Um, just X phone, but you know, uh, since the original galaxy note, they've just gotten" }, { "start": 1614.04, "end": 1618.96, "text": " such amazing traction with that device that everybody feels the need to do something in" }, { "start": 1618.96, "end": 1620.1, "text": " that form factor." }, { "start": 1620.1, "end": 1623.56, "text": " The problem is that I think a big part of the value prop, it's like the 10th time I" }, { "start": 1623.56, "end": 1624.56, "text": " said value proposition during the show." }, { "start": 1624.56, "end": 1625.56, "text": " I apologize." }, { "start": 1625.56, "end": 1626.56, "text": " It's, you've been reading the Wall Street Journal too much." }, { "start": 1626.56, "end": 1627.56, "text": " I have." }, { "start": 1627.56, "end": 1633.28, "text": " One of the, the big selling points for the, for the note is of course the stylus and you" }, { "start": 1633.28, "end": 1641.8, "text": " lose, the only thing that the 1520 does for you is give you a larger display and it's" }, { "start": 1641.8, "end": 1642.8, "text": " enormous." }, { "start": 1642.8, "end": 1648.04, "text": " So Microsoft touts the fact that they've tweaked windows phone in GDR three or they're calling" }, { "start": 1648.04, "end": 1649.04, "text": " it update three." }, { "start": 1649.04, "end": 1653.96, "text": " I think they've tweaked it so that like you get a third column of home screen icons." }, { "start": 1653.96, "end": 1659.76, "text": " Uh, and in some of the apps, I think like in the people app, you, you can see more people" }, { "start": 1659.76, "end": 1660.76, "text": " at the same time." }, { "start": 1660.76, "end": 1664.76, "text": " So, you know, they, they've made some minor tweaks, but it's not like they've totally" }, { "start": 1664.76, "end": 1669.8, "text": " rethought the way you interact with the device based on the 1080p, five point whatever inch" }, { "start": 1669.8, "end": 1670.8, "text": " display." }, { "start": 1670.8, "end": 1675.48, "text": " Um, yeah, I feel like that's the thing people missed about the galaxy note was what everybody" }, { "start": 1675.48, "end": 1676.56, "text": " seemed to like about the note." }, { "start": 1676.56, "end": 1681.1599999999999, "text": " I'm amazed constantly by how many people I see with galaxy notes using the pen." }, { "start": 1681.1599999999999, "end": 1682.1599999999999, "text": " They're everywhere." }, { "start": 1682.1599999999999, "end": 1683.1599999999999, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1683.1599999999999, "end": 1684.1599999999999, "text": " It's not just a big screen." }, { "start": 1684.1599999999999, "end": 1685.68, "text": " Like that's neat, but every phone has a big screen now." }, { "start": 1685.68, "end": 1691, "text": " Like people actually want to use the pen, which is some type of nostalgic human fetish" }, { "start": 1691, "end": 1693.8799999999999, "text": " for wanting to have a notepad, like a digital notepad." }, { "start": 1693.8799999999999, "end": 1697.6399999999999, "text": " You know who loves, you know who loves styli is Dieter bone." }, { "start": 1697.6399999999999, "end": 1698.6399999999999, "text": " Yeah, really." }, { "start": 1698.64, "end": 1702.6000000000001, "text": " He has almost, he has come this close to buying every generation of galaxy notes." }, { "start": 1702.6000000000001, "end": 1705.96, "text": " Um, and where does he, a trio fan bro back in the day?" }, { "start": 1705.96, "end": 1707.76, "text": " Oh, big trio fan." }, { "start": 1707.76, "end": 1708.76, "text": " Are you kidding me?" }, { "start": 1708.76, "end": 1712.72, "text": " I mean, Dieter ran trio central.com like we know that that's, that's actually a thing" }, { "start": 1712.72, "end": 1713.72, "text": " ran that program." }, { "start": 1713.72, "end": 1717, "text": " And I think the only thing that has stopped him from getting a galaxy note three is the" }, { "start": 1717, "end": 1720.3200000000002, "text": " fake leather stitching on it, which is, it doesn't even feel like leather." }, { "start": 1720.3200000000002, "end": 1721.3200000000002, "text": " No, it doesn't." }, { "start": 1721.3200000000002, "end": 1724.6000000000001, "text": " It's a plastic, but it looks, they, they, they have like a stitching." }, { "start": 1724.6000000000001, "end": 1725.6000000000001, "text": " Not even the rest of it." }, { "start": 1725.6000000000001, "end": 1726.6000000000001, "text": " Just the worst." }, { "start": 1726.6000000000001, "end": 1727.6000000000001, "text": " It's the worst." }, { "start": 1727.6, "end": 1734.08, "text": " But anyway, back to Nokia, I, to me, I actually think the biggest deal with the 1520 is the" }, { "start": 1734.08, "end": 1738.7199999999998, "text": " 20 megapixel sensor, which is like a compromise between like a traditional, uh, camera phone" }, { "start": 1738.7199999999998, "end": 1742.7199999999998, "text": " sensor and like the 41 megapixel beast that doesn't make the phone thicker." }, { "start": 1742.7199999999998, "end": 1744.6, "text": " It doesn't have a giant ass hump." }, { "start": 1744.6, "end": 1745.6, "text": " Yeah, right." }, { "start": 1745.6, "end": 1749.1599999999999, "text": " So we'll have to see how those pictures come out and shoots in raw now, which I actually" }, { "start": 1749.1599999999999, "end": 1755.76, "text": " think is a way bigger deal than any light throw to the refocus or whatever." }, { "start": 1755.76, "end": 1756.76, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 1756.76, "end": 1758.32, "text": " So it's like, okay, it's not fake light." }, { "start": 1758.32, "end": 1759.8799999999999, "text": " They want you to think it's fake light." }, { "start": 1759.8799999999999, "end": 1762.08, "text": " You just get to do it once and then you hit save and you're done." }, { "start": 1762.08, "end": 1763.08, "text": " And that's it." }, { "start": 1763.08, "end": 1764.08, "text": " How does it work exactly?" }, { "start": 1764.08, "end": 1767.6, "text": " So basically, so it's called, it's called refocus lens, right?" }, { "start": 1767.6, "end": 1768.6, "text": " Is that what it's called?" }, { "start": 1768.6, "end": 1769.6, "text": " Something like that." }, { "start": 1769.6, "end": 1770.6, "text": " Sure." }, { "start": 1770.6, "end": 1772.76, "text": " So it's, uh, it basically, if you have something in the foreground and the background, so if" }, { "start": 1772.76, "end": 1777.36, "text": " I have like my drink and then Chris, it takes two pictures, one where it focuses on my drink," }, { "start": 1777.36, "end": 1780.8, "text": " one where it focuses on Chris, and then one where it like suit or I guess six, three pictures" }, { "start": 1780.8, "end": 1784.68, "text": " and one where it like super exposes and gets everything in focus." }, { "start": 1784.68, "end": 1788.96, "text": " So you can then go through and it processes and you can like, I can tap on Chris and be" }, { "start": 1788.96, "end": 1791.04, "text": " like, I wanted to focus on Chris in this picture." }, { "start": 1791.04, "end": 1792.1200000000001, "text": " Or I can be like, no, just kidding." }, { "start": 1792.1200000000001, "end": 1794.28, "text": " My beer or everything in focus." }, { "start": 1794.28, "end": 1798, "text": " It's almost like if the shutter's fast enough, you don't even need a light row." }, { "start": 1798, "end": 1802.6200000000001, "text": " If the shutter's fast, kind of the whole fun of the light row is like this cool reveal" }, { "start": 1802.6200000000001, "end": 1806.66, "text": " when you get to look at the picture later, whereas now you just do it on the camera," }, { "start": 1806.66, "end": 1808.4, "text": " you hit save and then you get the picture you want." }, { "start": 1808.4, "end": 1811.4, "text": " So it's like, it's a neat way to not have to make sure you're focusing on the right" }, { "start": 1811.4, "end": 1813.68, "text": " thing, but it's not light, right?" }, { "start": 1813.68, "end": 1815.88, "text": " So light row needs to come out with a new light row." }, { "start": 1815.88, "end": 1816.88, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 1816.88, "end": 1817.88, "text": " That just needs to happen forever." }, { "start": 1817.88, "end": 1821.24, "text": " So my local target and I don't know if it's true with every target, but my local target" }, { "start": 1821.24, "end": 1825.0800000000002, "text": " in Chicago has like a permanent like light row kiosk." }, { "start": 1825.0800000000002, "end": 1826.0800000000002, "text": " Really?" }, { "start": 1826.0800000000002, "end": 1827.0800000000002, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1827.0800000000002, "end": 1828.0800000000002, "text": " I haven't seen a light row." }, { "start": 1828.0800000000002, "end": 1829.0800000000002, "text": " I have seen zero light rows in the wild." }, { "start": 1829.0800000000002, "end": 1830.0800000000002, "text": " Just forget." }, { "start": 1830.0800000000002, "end": 1832.96, "text": " Like it's, it's been shocked." }, { "start": 1832.96, "end": 1834.68, "text": " What's the kiosk over there?" }, { "start": 1834.68, "end": 1837.16, "text": " It has like underneath hot dogs." }, { "start": 1837.16, "end": 1843.64, "text": " It's like they have like a cabinet, a glass cabinet, completely shock full of light." }, { "start": 1843.64, "end": 1848.3600000000001, "text": " I'm sure they haven't sold a single one because at the top of the kiosk it says three 99 99" }, { "start": 1848.3600000000001, "end": 1850.96, "text": " who is walking into target with $400 to spend." }, { "start": 1850.96, "end": 1851.96, "text": " Very fair." }, { "start": 1851.96, "end": 1854.2800000000002, "text": " And you know, they just want to blow it on this weird looking camera." }, { "start": 1854.2800000000002, "end": 1856.44, "text": " Looks like a stack of golf balls." }, { "start": 1856.44, "end": 1857.44, "text": " I want it." }, { "start": 1857.44, "end": 1858.44, "text": " It's $400." }, { "start": 1858.44, "end": 1860.44, "text": " I mean it's, it's shiny." }, { "start": 1860.44, "end": 1861.44, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1861.44, "end": 1862.44, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1862.44, "end": 1865.72, "text": " It's our, uh, John, uh, our, our producer, one of our many producers." }, { "start": 1865.72, "end": 1867.76, "text": " I see like eight producers back there right now." }, { "start": 1867.76, "end": 1868.76, "text": " Um, uh, picture it." }, { "start": 1868.76, "end": 1869.76, "text": " He's like a genie." }, { "start": 1869.76, "end": 1870.76, "text": " It looks like a kaleidoscope." }, { "start": 1870.76, "end": 1872.2, "text": " Yeah, it is like a kaleidoscope." }, { "start": 1872.2, "end": 1873.2, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1873.2, "end": 1875.56, "text": " And that was the part of the design aesthetic." }, { "start": 1875.56, "end": 1878.44, "text": " Like they, I always ask them every time I meet with light row." }, { "start": 1878.44, "end": 1882.26, "text": " So light row is constantly, they're big on like calling us and being like, Hey, something's" }, { "start": 1882.26, "end": 1883.26, "text": " happening." }, { "start": 1883.26, "end": 1887.28, "text": " And their thing is just like, we work on your Mac better now when in fact they just need" }, { "start": 1887.28, "end": 1888.28, "text": " a new camera." }, { "start": 1888.28, "end": 1889.28, "text": " Basically." }, { "start": 1889.28, "end": 1890.28, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1890.28, "end": 1892.5, "text": " Just, I'm always like, just make a camera that looks like a camera or sell your stuff" }, { "start": 1892.5, "end": 1893.5, "text": " to somebody else." }, { "start": 1893.5, "end": 1898.04, "text": " And also works when you have less than like the sun, like shining directly on the object" }, { "start": 1898.04, "end": 1899.52, "text": " that you're shooting." }, { "start": 1899.52, "end": 1900.5800000000002, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1900.5800000000002, "end": 1902.28, "text": " They increased the resolution, didn't they?" }, { "start": 1902.28, "end": 1903.28, "text": " Which was good at least." }, { "start": 1903.28, "end": 1904.28, "text": " Or did they not?" }, { "start": 1904.28, "end": 1905.28, "text": " I'm mistaken." }, { "start": 1905.28, "end": 1906.28, "text": " Don't apologize for later." }, { "start": 1906.28, "end": 1907.28, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 1907.28, "end": 1908.28, "text": " I'm an optimistic guy." }, { "start": 1908.28, "end": 1909.28, "text": " Get it together." }, { "start": 1909.28, "end": 1910.28, "text": " Light row." }, { "start": 1910.28, "end": 1913.04, "text": " So anyway, the tablet, uh, the 25 20." }, { "start": 1913.04, "end": 1914.04, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 1914.04, "end": 1915.04, "text": " Here's my thing." }, { "start": 1915.04, "end": 1917.8799999999999, "text": " Um, for some reason it is definitely not a light show." }, { "start": 1917.8799999999999, "end": 1927.72, "text": " I am weirdly intrigued by the Dell venue pro, the two 99 running full windows 8.1." }, { "start": 1927.72, "end": 1932.24, "text": " I have to say I'm amazed by how well windows works on a small screen like that." }, { "start": 1932.24, "end": 1935.52, "text": " Like the live tiles and stuff look and work great when you can just like use your two" }, { "start": 1935.52, "end": 1936.52, "text": " thumbs to mess around." }, { "start": 1936.52, "end": 1940.92, "text": " It's kind of raises the question why windows phone and windows RT aren't the same thing," }, { "start": 1940.92, "end": 1942.8, "text": " but that's another story for another day." }, { "start": 1942.8, "end": 1945.2, "text": " Um, I think that question may have been raised already." }, { "start": 1945.2, "end": 1946.2, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 1946.2, "end": 1947.2, "text": " By one or two people." }, { "start": 1947.2, "end": 1955.22, "text": " So the, the, my question is why would I buy the 25 20 or a surface to, I mean it depends" }, { "start": 1955.22, "end": 1956.22, "text": " on what you're looking for." }, { "start": 1956.22, "end": 1958.8, "text": " I mean, I'm looking for like different strokes for different folks, but the, the, the, there's" }, { "start": 1958.8, "end": 1963.96, "text": " something very sexy about full windows 8.1 in an eight inch form factor for two 99, you" }, { "start": 1963.96, "end": 1964.96, "text": " know?" }, { "start": 1964.96, "end": 1966.52, "text": " And I, like I have no need for it." }, { "start": 1966.52, "end": 1970, "text": " I have no need for windows at this point in my life, but I still might just buy one to," }, { "start": 1970, "end": 1971.28, "text": " you know, mess around with it." }, { "start": 1971.28, "end": 1972.28, "text": " That's fair." }, { "start": 1972.28, "end": 1974.3600000000001, "text": " I'm not gonna buy a 25 20 even though it's in cyan." }, { "start": 1974.3600000000001, "end": 1975.3600000000001, "text": " What?" }, { "start": 1975.3600000000001, "end": 1976.3600000000001, "text": " Maybe I will." }, { "start": 1976.3600000000001, "end": 1977.3600000000001, "text": " You will." }, { "start": 1977.3600000000001, "end": 1978.3600000000001, "text": " I think it's crazy that they're selling it LTE only." }, { "start": 1978.3600000000001, "end": 1979.8, "text": " Like you can't buy it with wifi." }, { "start": 1979.8, "end": 1980.8, "text": " That just blows my mind." }, { "start": 1980.8, "end": 1982, "text": " And AT&T is going to sell it, right?" }, { "start": 1982, "end": 1983, "text": " I think." }, { "start": 1983, "end": 1984, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 1984, "end": 1985, "text": " Is that the story?" }, { "start": 1985, "end": 1986, "text": " Kind of assume so." }, { "start": 1986, "end": 1987.4, "text": " I think the 15 20 and the 25 20." }, { "start": 1987.4, "end": 1989.36, "text": " But does anyone buy tablets at carrier stores?" }, { "start": 1989.36, "end": 1990.36, "text": " Is that a thing?" }, { "start": 1990.36, "end": 1991.36, "text": " No." }, { "start": 1991.36, "end": 1992.92, "text": " I mean like for a long time I thought that was going away." }, { "start": 1992.92, "end": 1993.92, "text": " Wasn't it?" }, { "start": 1993.92, "end": 1997.52, "text": " Like they tried briefly to like carrier brand tablets and then they were like, wait a second." }, { "start": 1997.52, "end": 1999.2, "text": " Nobody buys tablets this way." }, { "start": 1999.2, "end": 2002.96, "text": " And then they, they kind of like stop promoting that." }, { "start": 2002.96, "end": 2003.96, "text": " And then now this." }, { "start": 2003.96, "end": 2004.96, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2004.96, "end": 2005.96, "text": " I mean it does kind of make sense." }, { "start": 2005.96, "end": 2009.68, "text": " Like with the family plan buckets and stuff where it's just $10 more to add on a tablet." }, { "start": 2009.68, "end": 2010.68, "text": " It's kind of a great deal." }, { "start": 2010.68, "end": 2013.64, "text": " And if Nokia pulls this off, it's really kind of awesome." }, { "start": 2013.64, "end": 2017.88, "text": " So what I've actually started doing is I just have a, uh, like a spare SIM that's activated" }, { "start": 2017.88, "end": 2019.44, "text": " with the $10 add on." }, { "start": 2019.44, "end": 2023.6000000000001, "text": " So like, you know, if I need some device that I need data on, that is not my phone, I pop" }, { "start": 2023.6000000000001, "end": 2024.6000000000001, "text": " it in." }, { "start": 2024.6000000000001, "end": 2025.6000000000001, "text": " That's smart." }, { "start": 2025.6000000000001, "end": 2026.6000000000001, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2026.6000000000001, "end": 2027.6000000000001, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2027.6000000000001, "end": 2029.0400000000002, "text": " Also Tom Warren just corrected me that refocus the Nokia thing." }, { "start": 2029.0400000000002, "end": 2031.5200000000002, "text": " You can change it later after the fact." }, { "start": 2031.5200000000002, "end": 2032.5200000000002, "text": " It's awesome." }, { "start": 2032.5200000000002, "end": 2033.5200000000002, "text": " Blew up your entire argument." }, { "start": 2033.5200000000002, "end": 2034.5200000000002, "text": " Suck it, Lytro." }, { "start": 2034.5200000000002, "end": 2035.5200000000002, "text": " Nokia wins." }, { "start": 2035.5200000000002, "end": 2039.5600000000002, "text": " Tom's like, David, but you're wrong." }, { "start": 2039.5600000000002, "end": 2040.5600000000002, "text": " You're just wrong." }, { "start": 2040.5600000000002, "end": 2041.5600000000002, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2041.56, "end": 2046.1599999999999, "text": " So while everybody else did cool stuff this weekend, a Blackberry kind of like blew everything" }, { "start": 2046.1599999999999, "end": 2047.1599999999999, "text": " all the time." }, { "start": 2047.1599999999999, "end": 2049.36, "text": " It seems like, so tell me, Ellis, what happened with Blackberry this week?" }, { "start": 2049.36, "end": 2056, "text": " So after a very prolonged rollout for their iOS and Android versions of Blackberry messenger." }, { "start": 2056, "end": 2058.7599999999998, "text": " That's like an enormous understatement by the way." }, { "start": 2058.7599999999998, "end": 2062.24, "text": " It's BBM for iOS has been planned for like years." }, { "start": 2062.24, "end": 2064.88, "text": " When did they originally tease it?" }, { "start": 2064.88, "end": 2065.88, "text": " Earlier." }, { "start": 2065.88, "end": 2070, "text": " It was earlier this year, but like they've been saying for years that various people" }, { "start": 2070, "end": 2074.96, "text": " have been saying for years that either it's in the works or they should do it." }, { "start": 2074.96, "end": 2077.48, "text": " It's been in the conversation for many, many months." }, { "start": 2077.48, "end": 2078.48, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 2078.48, "end": 2079.48, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 2079.48, "end": 2080.48, "text": " It was always like an obvious thing that they should do." }, { "start": 2080.48, "end": 2081.48, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2081.48, "end": 2082.48, "text": " It's like, that's the only good thing you have, Blackberry." }, { "start": 2082.48, "end": 2083.48, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 2083.48, "end": 2084.48, "text": " You should sell it to other people." }, { "start": 2084.48, "end": 2087.28, "text": " And then it accidentally was released what, like three months ago and then they pulled" }, { "start": 2087.28, "end": 2088.28, "text": " it back." }, { "start": 2088.28, "end": 2089.28, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2089.28, "end": 2095.4, "text": " So anyway, it's out, but like everything else these days that works on a server and is a" }, { "start": 2095.4, "end": 2097.92, "text": " messaging or mail app, you have to hop on a wait list." }, { "start": 2097.92, "end": 2102.8, "text": " But what's crazy is that 10 million people downloaded the app already." }, { "start": 2102.8, "end": 2103.8, "text": " That is pretty well." }, { "start": 2103.8, "end": 2104.8, "text": " Which is insane." }, { "start": 2104.8, "end": 2105.8, "text": " That's insane." }, { "start": 2105.8, "end": 2106.8, "text": " That's a lot of people." }, { "start": 2106.8, "end": 2109.16, "text": " I don't think I've ever heard of that for a new app." }, { "start": 2109.16, "end": 2110.16, "text": " That's a crazy number." }, { "start": 2110.16, "end": 2116.92, "text": " I mean, that's the kind of numbers a company looks for after like a year or two with their" }, { "start": 2116.92, "end": 2117.92, "text": " app." }, { "start": 2117.92, "end": 2118.92, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2118.92, "end": 2121.96, "text": " That's all changed in the wake of Instagram." }, { "start": 2121.96, "end": 2124.42, "text": " But it's pretty crazy demand." }, { "start": 2124.42, "end": 2126.44, "text": " People are still, they still like the brand." }, { "start": 2126.44, "end": 2133.36, "text": " They still remember what it was like to instant message on their phone for the first time." }, { "start": 2133.36, "end": 2135.56, "text": " With an eight digit hex code." }, { "start": 2135.56, "end": 2136.56, "text": " Because that's how you want to contact people." }, { "start": 2136.56, "end": 2137.7200000000003, "text": " There was something nice about it." }, { "start": 2137.7200000000003, "end": 2140.6, "text": " And you know, the keyboard was the fastest in the world." }, { "start": 2140.6, "end": 2141.6, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2141.6, "end": 2142.6, "text": " Tapping away on that little plastic thing." }, { "start": 2142.6, "end": 2143.96, "text": " I still miss my Blackberry keyboard every once in a while." }, { "start": 2143.96, "end": 2144.96, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2144.96, "end": 2148.94, "text": " I was moving and in the process of moving, found a box of old phones, like half of which" }, { "start": 2148.94, "end": 2152, "text": " had QWERTY keyboards because I was obsessed with keyboards." }, { "start": 2152, "end": 2154.7200000000003, "text": " And I just pulled it out and was just like messing around with Blackberry." }, { "start": 2154.7200000000003, "end": 2156.08, "text": " And I was like, God, this keyboard is good." }, { "start": 2156.08, "end": 2157.08, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2157.08, "end": 2158.08, "text": " The Curve 8300 was my baby." }, { "start": 2158.08, "end": 2159.08, "text": " 8900 was the pinnacle of the platform." }, { "start": 2159.08, "end": 2160.08, "text": " Was that the Bold?" }, { "start": 2160.08, "end": 2161.08, "text": " No, the Curve 8900." }, { "start": 2161.08, "end": 2162.08, "text": " Oh, the Curve 8900." }, { "start": 2162.08, "end": 2163.08, "text": " That was the one with the chrome surround." }, { "start": 2163.08, "end": 2164.08, "text": " Oh, yeah." }, { "start": 2164.08, "end": 2165.08, "text": " That was nice." }, { "start": 2165.08, "end": 2166.08, "text": " That one had like a cushy couch-like keyboard." }, { "start": 2166.08, "end": 2167.08, "text": " Is it tight like a couch?" }, { "start": 2167.08, "end": 2168.08, "text": " Oh, wait." }, { "start": 2168.08, "end": 2169.08, "text": " No, no, no." }, { "start": 2169.08, "end": 2170.08, "text": " I'm talking about a different one." }, { "start": 2170.08, "end": 2171.08, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2171.08, "end": 2172.08, "text": " This one's really cool." }, { "start": 2172.08, "end": 2173.08, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2173.08, "end": 2174.08, "text": " I like this one a lot." }, { "start": 2174.08, "end": 2175.08, "text": " And that was one of the last." }, { "start": 2175.08, "end": 2176.08, "text": " This is the sequel." }, { "start": 2176.08, "end": 2177.08, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2177.08, "end": 2180.36, "text": " That was one of the last phones with a, one of the last Blackberries with a trackball" }, { "start": 2180.36, "end": 2181.36, "text": " instead of a trackpad." }, { "start": 2181.36, "end": 2182.36, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 2182.36, "end": 2187.4, "text": " And I was talking about the one with the, with the chrome rows across it, across each" }, { "start": 2187.4, "end": 2188.4, "text": " keyboard." }, { "start": 2188.4, "end": 2189.4, "text": " That was right after the 8300." }, { "start": 2189.4, "end": 2190.4, "text": " Oh, yeah." }, { "start": 2190.4, "end": 2191.4, "text": " I remember that one." }, { "start": 2191.4, "end": 2192.92, "text": " Anyway, so you, you can type like a speed demon on these things." }, { "start": 2192.92, "end": 2196.32, "text": " And it was the first time you could really communicate with your friends on a phone as" }, { "start": 2196.32, "end": 2197.32, "text": " if you were IMing." }, { "start": 2197.32, "end": 2198.32, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2198.32, "end": 2202.32, "text": " And you could also send photos digitally instead of over MMS, which sucked." }, { "start": 2202.32, "end": 2203.32, "text": " True." }, { "start": 2203.32, "end": 2206.28, "text": " And I mean, you have to remember that, you know, of course, iMessage didn't exist at" }, { "start": 2206.28, "end": 2211.56, "text": " this time and there weren't any apps like this that existed at the time, especially" }, { "start": 2211.56, "end": 2213.4, "text": " that all your friends probably had." }, { "start": 2213.4, "end": 2217.44, "text": " And I remember a distinct period in my life, maybe sophomore year of college where every" }, { "start": 2217.44, "end": 2221.84, "text": " single person I knew had a Blackberry." }, { "start": 2221.84, "end": 2223.7599999999998, "text": " And that was a really special time." }, { "start": 2223.7599999999998, "end": 2228.04, "text": " It was maybe the only point in my life where everyone I knew, including my family members," }, { "start": 2228.04, "end": 2229.7599999999998, "text": " was on the same messaging platform." }, { "start": 2229.7599999999998, "end": 2233.12, "text": " You could group chat, you could have shared calendars, you could ping each other, you" }, { "start": 2233.12, "end": 2234.12, "text": " could screw around." }, { "start": 2234.12, "end": 2235.12, "text": " And it was like bliss." }, { "start": 2235.12, "end": 2236.12, "text": " It was messaging bliss." }, { "start": 2236.12, "end": 2237.12, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2237.12, "end": 2238.12, "text": " And we don't have that anymore." }, { "start": 2238.12, "end": 2239.12, "text": " iMessage is close." }, { "start": 2239.12, "end": 2240.12, "text": " iMessage is close for a lot of people." }, { "start": 2240.12, "end": 2241.12, "text": " But it's not as feature rich." }, { "start": 2241.12, "end": 2242.12, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 2242.12, "end": 2244.3599999999997, "text": " By which you mean it still kind of sucks." }, { "start": 2244.3599999999997, "end": 2245.3599999999997, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2245.3599999999997, "end": 2248.2, "text": " I still constantly get iMessages like seven days later." }, { "start": 2248.2, "end": 2249.2, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 2249.2, "end": 2250.2, "text": " It's really wonderful." }, { "start": 2250.2, "end": 2253.8399999999997, "text": " Lots of failed sends, which I guess 703 is supposed to fix, but we'll see." }, { "start": 2253.8399999999997, "end": 2257.92, "text": " And so the verdict on BBM is that it's very underwhelming." }, { "start": 2257.92, "end": 2264.2799999999997, "text": " It is not anywhere near as feature rich as any of the market leading apps, whether it" }, { "start": 2264.28, "end": 2272.5600000000004, "text": " be Hangouts or Line, WhatsApp especially, which amazingly I think 400 million people" }, { "start": 2272.5600000000004, "end": 2273.5600000000004, "text": " are using per month." }, { "start": 2273.5600000000004, "end": 2274.5600000000004, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2274.5600000000004, "end": 2275.5600000000004, "text": " Which is pretty bonkers." }, { "start": 2275.5600000000004, "end": 2277.84, "text": " Is that in the US or is that just everyone else in the world who's not?" }, { "start": 2277.84, "end": 2278.84, "text": " No, it's in the world." }, { "start": 2278.84, "end": 2280.28, "text": " No, but I mean like are people in the US using it?" }, { "start": 2280.28, "end": 2285.2000000000003, "text": " Oh, I think WhatsApp is popular in the US, but I mean it's the de facto messaging app" }, { "start": 2285.2000000000003, "end": 2286.76, "text": " for a lot of places in the world." }, { "start": 2286.76, "end": 2291.44, "text": " I mean there are certain places in the world where everybody uses Kick Out Talk or everybody" }, { "start": 2291.44, "end": 2292.44, "text": " uses Line." }, { "start": 2292.44, "end": 2293.44, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 2293.44, "end": 2298.2400000000002, "text": " There are certain places in Asia, but BBM is people remember it as this thing that they" }, { "start": 2298.2400000000002, "end": 2301.42, "text": " loved that worked really well and was very fast." }, { "start": 2301.42, "end": 2305.66, "text": " And now it's basically just an app that looks ported from a BB10 with like little panes" }, { "start": 2305.66, "end": 2309.32, "text": " you could flip out and there's just nothing special about it anymore." }, { "start": 2309.32, "end": 2310.32, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2310.32, "end": 2311.32, "text": " Which is so ridiculous." }, { "start": 2311.32, "end": 2313.2000000000003, "text": " Like they had, this was Blackberry's-" }, { "start": 2313.2000000000003, "end": 2314.52, "text": " They had the biggest head start." }, { "start": 2314.52, "end": 2318.16, "text": " Like, well, and this is their best, probably their best IP at this point." }, { "start": 2318.16, "end": 2322.06, "text": " The most useful thing Blackberry offers to the world is BBM." }, { "start": 2322.06, "end": 2327, "text": " And if they had come out with like a killer app that people loved and got into and started" }, { "start": 2327, "end": 2331.84, "text": " using and like I could convince all of my friends to go back to BBM if I wanted to." }, { "start": 2331.84, "end": 2332.84, "text": " Because everybody knows what it is." }, { "start": 2332.84, "end": 2336.36, "text": " There was, like you said, there was this two year period of my life where everyone I knew" }, { "start": 2336.36, "end": 2338.92, "text": " had a Blackberry and it was the best." }, { "start": 2338.92, "end": 2339.92, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2339.92, "end": 2344.16, "text": " It was so fast, but it's still, it's as janky as ever to try and friend somebody." }, { "start": 2344.16, "end": 2346.04, "text": " You're like, here's my barcode." }, { "start": 2346.04, "end": 2347.04, "text": " Please scan my barcode." }, { "start": 2347.04, "end": 2348.04, "text": " It takes 33 tasks." }, { "start": 2348.04, "end": 2349.04, "text": " Scan me, baby." }, { "start": 2349.04, "end": 2354.2799999999997, "text": " And then there's like you to take a picture and send it, you have to go to get another" }, { "start": 2354.2799999999997, "end": 2358.5, "text": " picture, accept it, and then go back and then take a picture." }, { "start": 2358.5, "end": 2360.12, "text": " It's the worst setup ever." }, { "start": 2360.12, "end": 2363.6, "text": " And if they had just nailed this, it could have like, it would have been the biggest" }, { "start": 2363.6, "end": 2365.4, "text": " win for Blackberry that they would have needed." }, { "start": 2365.4, "end": 2367.4, "text": " Why is it so hard just to have a username?" }, { "start": 2367.4, "end": 2368.4, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 2368.4, "end": 2369.4, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 2369.4, "end": 2372.36, "text": " So the thing that they missed was they, uh, security." }, { "start": 2372.36, "end": 2373.36, "text": " Here's what I'm thinking." }, { "start": 2373.36, "end": 2378.08, "text": " They decided not to do Blackberry messenger, excuse me, on other platforms because they" }, { "start": 2378.08, "end": 2381, "text": " thought this is one of our best features." }, { "start": 2381, "end": 2383.6, "text": " Why would we put it for free on other platforms?" }, { "start": 2383.6, "end": 2384.7999999999997, "text": " Because no one buys your phone." }, { "start": 2384.7999999999997, "end": 2387.96, "text": " I think for them with this, it was kind of a lose, lose." }, { "start": 2387.96, "end": 2391.92, "text": " It was like they could either accelerate their own demise because their operating systems" }, { "start": 2391.92, "end": 2397.6, "text": " just weren't anywhere near on par with competitors or they could accelerate their own demise" }, { "start": 2397.6, "end": 2399.86, "text": " in another way by not offering it." }, { "start": 2399.86, "end": 2405.56, "text": " And so what they ended up doing was just making it way too late and it's just worthless." }, { "start": 2405.56, "end": 2406.56, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2406.56, "end": 2409.92, "text": " So I'm on Blackberry and I am looking for somebody to buy me, which they are." }, { "start": 2409.92, "end": 2414.84, "text": " Uh, and I want, you know, I want Google for instance, I think I'm worth buying." }, { "start": 2414.84, "end": 2417.12, "text": " What better way to do it than to say, Oh, you have Hangouts." }, { "start": 2417.12, "end": 2419.88, "text": " We have the thing that is a hundred times better than Hangouts." }, { "start": 2419.88, "end": 2421.2799999999997, "text": " Buy us and we'll make Hangouts better." }, { "start": 2421.2799999999997, "end": 2425.36, "text": " Like Google can afford whatever Blackberry costs just to make Hangouts better." }, { "start": 2425.36, "end": 2430.08, "text": " But instead they're like, it's a slightly faster but really ugly and kind of terrible" }, { "start": 2430.08, "end": 2431.08, "text": " way." }, { "start": 2431.08, "end": 2432.08, "text": " It works." }, { "start": 2432.08, "end": 2433.08, "text": " It does work." }, { "start": 2433.08, "end": 2434.08, "text": " It works." }, { "start": 2434.08, "end": 2436.24, "text": " But I mean that's the hot spot right now is messaging apps." }, { "start": 2436.24, "end": 2439.56, "text": " And there are a million of them and anybody, what do you use?" }, { "start": 2439.56, "end": 2441.16, "text": " Uh, you've used them all." }, { "start": 2441.16, "end": 2442.16, "text": " I'm sure." }, { "start": 2442.16, "end": 2443.16, "text": " Have you like actually landed on them?" }, { "start": 2443.16, "end": 2446.68, "text": " Well, so there are a lot of apps with really great features." }, { "start": 2446.68, "end": 2451.24, "text": " Some let you video chat and audio chat and do whatever you want." }, { "start": 2451.24, "end": 2452.24, "text": " Simultaneous." }, { "start": 2452.24, "end": 2456.4799999999996, "text": " I'm all for the all in one communication solution and Hangouts is like moving towards that." }, { "start": 2456.4799999999996, "end": 2458.4799999999996, "text": " But the iOS app is still really slow." }, { "start": 2458.4799999999996, "end": 2460.24, "text": " Um, and doesn't load your conversation." }, { "start": 2460.24, "end": 2465.2799999999997, "text": " So I mean the fact is most of the people that I'm friends with and that are in my family" }, { "start": 2465.28, "end": 2466.34, "text": " are using iPhones." }, { "start": 2466.34, "end": 2471.5600000000004, "text": " So we inevitably use iMessage even though you can't even send your fricking location." }, { "start": 2471.5600000000004, "end": 2473.52, "text": " Like here I am, can't do it." }, { "start": 2473.52, "end": 2474.52, "text": " You know, you should use my friends." }, { "start": 2474.52, "end": 2475.52, "text": " Just use Pat." }, { "start": 2475.52, "end": 2477.52, "text": " I don't want to find friends with that." }, { "start": 2477.52, "end": 2478.52, "text": " No, no, no." }, { "start": 2478.52, "end": 2479.52, "text": " Thank you." }, { "start": 2479.52, "end": 2482.52, "text": " So to answer your question, that's what I use." }, { "start": 2482.52, "end": 2484.52, "text": " And there's so many great products out there." }, { "start": 2484.52, "end": 2490.4, "text": " You need, if you want people to move to your platform for messaging and convince all their" }, { "start": 2490.4, "end": 2495.0800000000004, "text": " friends to move, you got to be seriously compelling in the feature department." }, { "start": 2495.08, "end": 2496.08, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2496.08, "end": 2497.08, "text": " When you have to make it super easy." }, { "start": 2497.08, "end": 2500.7599999999998, "text": " Like that's why a lot of people I know have started using Hangouts just because it's like," }, { "start": 2500.7599999999998, "end": 2504.08, "text": " Oh, I already have a Hangouts account because I use Gmail and that's so easy." }, { "start": 2504.08, "end": 2509.7599999999998, "text": " But now it's like, Oh, I spent an hour yesterday trying to remember my BBM pin from five years" }, { "start": 2509.7599999999998, "end": 2511.56, "text": " ago because apparently it still works." }, { "start": 2511.56, "end": 2512.56, "text": " Seriously?" }, { "start": 2512.56, "end": 2513.56, "text": " If you're out there." }, { "start": 2513.56, "end": 2516.36, "text": " Uh, like if you remember it, apparently you can still like it's still associated with" }, { "start": 2516.36, "end": 2517.4, "text": " you." }, { "start": 2517.4, "end": 2520.84, "text": " And I couldn't remember it because why the hell would I remember that?" }, { "start": 2520.84, "end": 2522.12, "text": " I still know mine." }, { "start": 2522.12, "end": 2523.12, "text": " Do you really?" }, { "start": 2523.12, "end": 2525.64, "text": " No, I'm just like, wow." }, { "start": 2525.64, "end": 2529.64, "text": " No, but it's, I don't know." }, { "start": 2529.64, "end": 2531.06, "text": " I'm really mad at Blackberry." }, { "start": 2531.06, "end": 2534.72, "text": " And then apparently there were people after surfing their reviews." }, { "start": 2534.72, "end": 2536.96, "text": " They said, they said it wasn't them." }, { "start": 2536.96, "end": 2539.2799999999997, "text": " Um, that's their official comment." }, { "start": 2539.2799999999997, "end": 2544.16, "text": " But they do have a very, very staunch group of supporters who may have just been, you" }, { "start": 2544.16, "end": 2545.7999999999997, "text": " know, doing it independently." }, { "start": 2545.7999999999997, "end": 2546.7999999999997, "text": " I get that." }, { "start": 2546.7999999999997, "end": 2552.12, "text": " And you know, what's the funny part is some of these reviews said, uh, I think it was" }, { "start": 2552.12, "end": 2558.24, "text": " the reviews were copy and pasted from the email and it w one of the reviews was like," }, { "start": 2558.24, "end": 2563.52, "text": " dear Ahmed, please post this Blackberry review." }, { "start": 2563.52, "end": 2565.3599999999997, "text": " And that was the actual name." }, { "start": 2565.3599999999997, "end": 2567.44, "text": " And uh, I was like, oh, that's sad." }, { "start": 2567.44, "end": 2568.44, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2568.44, "end": 2574.2, "text": " Well, you know, the best case scenario I think is that BBM, this cross platform BBM app is" }, { "start": 2574.2, "end": 2576.96, "text": " a stop loss for them and they don't need a stop loss." }, { "start": 2576.96, "end": 2577.96, "text": " They need a hit." }, { "start": 2577.96, "end": 2578.96, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 2578.96, "end": 2579.96, "text": " Um, and this is not that." }, { "start": 2579.96, "end": 2580.96, "text": " Well, they need a buyer." }, { "start": 2580.96, "end": 2585.12, "text": " I feel like that's, that ship has sailed like Blackberry as a device maker, a company that" }, { "start": 2585.12, "end": 2587.28, "text": " can thrive and do great things is, is gone." }, { "start": 2587.28, "end": 2589.8, "text": " Like I don't, I don't know how they come back from this." }, { "start": 2589.8, "end": 2590.8, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2590.8, "end": 2594.96, "text": " Even like they, I think they compared to 10 point two came out this week." }, { "start": 2594.96, "end": 2596.64, "text": " I just don't think they have the talent." }, { "start": 2596.64, "end": 2602.8, "text": " I mean, not only is the Blackberry messenger app not that good, but it's also not on every" }, { "start": 2602.8, "end": 2605.7, "text": " platform like every other messaging app is." }, { "start": 2605.7, "end": 2607.44, "text": " I mean, WhatsApp is on everything." }, { "start": 2607.44, "end": 2608.44, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2608.44, "end": 2609.44, "text": " Everything." }, { "start": 2609.44, "end": 2611.04, "text": " I mean, the windows phone app, I don't even care." }, { "start": 2611.04, "end": 2613.8, "text": " I mean, WhatsApp, you got Nokia, you got Nokia Asha." }, { "start": 2613.8, "end": 2614.8, "text": " Wow." }, { "start": 2614.8, "end": 2615.8, "text": " Is that true?" }, { "start": 2615.8, "end": 2618.32, "text": " We got WhatsApp, you got the Nokia S 40, you got Symbian, you got windows phone, you got" }, { "start": 2618.32, "end": 2619.68, "text": " Blackberry, you got iPhone." }, { "start": 2619.68, "end": 2624.64, "text": " And that makes sense because WhatsApp is really popular in a lot of emerging markets where" }, { "start": 2624.64, "end": 2625.64, "text": " Asha is huge." }, { "start": 2625.64, "end": 2626.64, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2626.64, "end": 2627.64, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2627.64, "end": 2628.64, "text": " So that makes a lot of sense." }, { "start": 2628.64, "end": 2631.56, "text": " And Blackberry is just with messenger." }, { "start": 2631.56, "end": 2635.88, "text": " It's just a, unsurmounted, insurmountable." }, { "start": 2635.88, "end": 2636.88, "text": " Insurmountable." }, { "start": 2636.88, "end": 2641.52, "text": " Insurmountable challenge for them with this." }, { "start": 2641.52, "end": 2642.52, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2642.52, "end": 2643.52, "text": " Unfortunately." }, { "start": 2643.52, "end": 2648.2400000000002, "text": " Isn't it crazy though to think that everyone we knew, and Matt, is there any one thing" }, { "start": 2648.2400000000002, "end": 2650.2000000000003, "text": " that all your friends use?" }, { "start": 2650.2000000000003, "end": 2654.36, "text": " I guess we all use a toothbrush, but I don't know that all my friends use a toothbrush." }, { "start": 2654.36, "end": 2655.36, "text": " I'm going to be honest." }, { "start": 2655.36, "end": 2657.1600000000003, "text": " It's entirely possible that I have friends who don't use toothbrushes." }, { "start": 2657.1600000000003, "end": 2659.48, "text": " Every single friend used a Blackberry." }, { "start": 2659.48, "end": 2661.8, "text": " All you had to do was keep them." }, { "start": 2661.8, "end": 2663.8, "text": " It's really true." }, { "start": 2663.8, "end": 2666.8, "text": " But it was, yeah, it's been a long time since that's been the case." }, { "start": 2666.8, "end": 2667.8, "text": " Maybe like-" }, { "start": 2667.8, "end": 2668.8, "text": " No, no." }, { "start": 2668.8, "end": 2672.48, "text": " When I was in college, I was on, what phone did I have?" }, { "start": 2672.48, "end": 2676.2400000000002, "text": " I had like a Nokia 6280 or whatever." }, { "start": 2676.2400000000002, "end": 2677.2400000000002, "text": " Like-" }, { "start": 2677.2400000000002, "end": 2678.5600000000004, "text": " Just Snake for days." }, { "start": 2678.5600000000004, "end": 2679.5600000000004, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2679.5600000000004, "end": 2680.96, "text": " That was, Snake was our app." }, { "start": 2680.96, "end": 2681.96, "text": " That was our only app." }, { "start": 2681.96, "end": 2683.6400000000003, "text": " What about during peak Blackberry?" }, { "start": 2683.6400000000003, "end": 2685.0800000000004, "text": " What were you and your friends using?" }, { "start": 2685.0800000000004, "end": 2686.6400000000003, "text": " I was never on Blackberry." }, { "start": 2686.6400000000003, "end": 2694.8, "text": " I went from a 60 to windows mobile to iPhone." }, { "start": 2694.8, "end": 2700.52, "text": " Wait, was the Nokia 6280 the one with the slide out keyboard at the bottom?" }, { "start": 2700.52, "end": 2701.52, "text": " No, no." }, { "start": 2701.52, "end": 2702.52, "text": " It was-" }, { "start": 2702.52, "end": 2705.6400000000003, "text": " Because that was, do you remember the phones in the matrix where they would like pop them" }, { "start": 2705.6400000000003, "end": 2706.6400000000003, "text": " up and then be like, hello." }, { "start": 2706.6400000000003, "end": 2708.52, "text": " I wanted that phone so bad." }, { "start": 2708.52, "end": 2711.3, "text": " And Nokia made one that was kind of like it." }, { "start": 2711.3, "end": 2712.3, "text": " And I wanted it more than anything in the entire-" }, { "start": 2712.3, "end": 2713.3, "text": " But they made it look more matrix-y." }, { "start": 2713.3, "end": 2717.76, "text": " No, that was the, what did they call that series?" }, { "start": 2717.76, "end": 2721.32, "text": " Remember they had like a high end, it cost like a thousand bucks." }, { "start": 2721.32, "end": 2723.48, "text": " They made it, but it cost like a billion dollars." }, { "start": 2723.48, "end": 2727.84, "text": " I had like a $19 voice stream wireless phone back in the day." }, { "start": 2727.84, "end": 2729.36, "text": " Oh, Samsung made it." }, { "start": 2729.36, "end": 2731.96, "text": " No, Samsung made the knockoff." }, { "start": 2731.96, "end": 2732.96, "text": " That phone right there." }, { "start": 2732.96, "end": 2733.96, "text": " That's the one." }, { "start": 2733.96, "end": 2735.56, "text": " I wanted that phone so bad." }, { "start": 2735.56, "end": 2736.84, "text": " No, no, no, no, no, dude." }, { "start": 2736.84, "end": 2737.84, "text": " That's not even close." }, { "start": 2737.84, "end": 2739.12, "text": " The one you wanted was the one that had-" }, { "start": 2739.12, "end": 2740.12, "text": " That phone is ridiculous." }, { "start": 2740.12, "end": 2745.84, "text": " The one you wanted had like, it was the hard cover that was over the keypad and it was" }, { "start": 2745.84, "end": 2748.16, "text": " on a spring loaded mechanism." }, { "start": 2748.16, "end": 2749.94, "text": " So you press the button and it went like that." }, { "start": 2749.94, "end": 2753.92, "text": " So you know what I did was I bought the, was it the 3310?" }, { "start": 2753.92, "end": 2755.4, "text": " Was that the one that everyone on the planet had?" }, { "start": 2755.4, "end": 2756.4, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2756.4, "end": 2760.08, "text": " So I had one of those and then I bought on eBay a case with a little sliding cover on" }, { "start": 2760.08, "end": 2761.08, "text": " it." }, { "start": 2761.08, "end": 2765.2400000000002, "text": " It was like $499 and I bought one, put it on and then it didn't do anything." }, { "start": 2765.2400000000002, "end": 2766.6, "text": " It was literally just a cover." }, { "start": 2766.6, "end": 2770.52, "text": " But before I answered every phone call, I would like shoot it down." }, { "start": 2770.52, "end": 2772.36, "text": " And then it broke after like four minutes." }, { "start": 2772.36, "end": 2773.36, "text": " Oh my God." }, { "start": 2773.36, "end": 2776.6, "text": " There was the best next-tell phone." }, { "start": 2776.6, "end": 2779.7200000000003, "text": " That Samsung one was the fake one from the Matrix too." }, { "start": 2779.72, "end": 2783.4399999999996, "text": " Samsung struck like a marketing deal with the Matrix where they, it was a product placement" }, { "start": 2783.4399999999996, "end": 2786.52, "text": " thing and they sold that phone on Sprint and it sucked." }, { "start": 2786.52, "end": 2788.52, "text": " It was the worst." }, { "start": 2788.52, "end": 2794.08, "text": " No, but I, I miss the days of Blackberry being really cool." }, { "start": 2794.08, "end": 2795.08, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2795.08, "end": 2797.08, "text": " It was such a headstart at that time." }, { "start": 2797.08, "end": 2798.08, "text": " They did." }, { "start": 2798.08, "end": 2802.24, "text": " I mean, and like, I think Blackberry gets compared to Nokia a lot and it's totally wrong." }, { "start": 2802.24, "end": 2806.56, "text": " Like I think Nokia is still, they're sort of low but rising and they have all these" }, { "start": 2806.56, "end": 2808.04, "text": " other places they're doing great stuff." }, { "start": 2808.04, "end": 2809.04, "text": " Blackberry is just dead." }, { "start": 2809.04, "end": 2811.32, "text": " Like there's just nothing left for Blackberry." }, { "start": 2811.32, "end": 2815.8, "text": " At that time, like all the phone software was bad compared to what would come a few" }, { "start": 2815.8, "end": 2817.04, "text": " years later." }, { "start": 2817.04, "end": 2821.44, "text": " Once the iPhone totally threw a wrench into the like, I mean, you remember the Razer software?" }, { "start": 2821.44, "end": 2826.16, "text": " Oh, hey, using a Razer again, I wrote that status symbol for us." }, { "start": 2826.16, "end": 2828.64, "text": " The using a Razer again was my favorite thing ever." }, { "start": 2828.64, "end": 2829.64, "text": " I forgot." }, { "start": 2829.64, "end": 2830.64, "text": " Razer is great." }, { "start": 2830.64, "end": 2831.64, "text": " It was so nice to just have a phone." }, { "start": 2831.64, "end": 2833.64, "text": " All the software is so bad." }, { "start": 2833.64, "end": 2835.68, "text": " It was so bad." }, { "start": 2835.68, "end": 2844.3199999999997, "text": " And they were able to become so popular because people, they shifted kind of from targeting" }, { "start": 2844.3199999999997, "end": 2850.2, "text": " corporations to also targeting normal people because people want to chat with their friends." }, { "start": 2850.2, "end": 2854.6, "text": " But when you think about it, they weren't really in a position to pivot past that for" }, { "start": 2854.6, "end": 2856.14, "text": " great software." }, { "start": 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was, I mean, at that time it was like completely unprecedented for a phone to look" }, { "start": 2888.2799999999997, "end": 2889.2799999999997, "text": " like that." }, { "start": 2889.2799999999997, "end": 2894.04, "text": " So Tom Warren just pointed out to me that the original matrix phone was the Nokia 7110." }, { "start": 2894.04, "end": 2898.04, "text": " Man, Nokia was, oh yes." }, { "start": 2898.04, "end": 2899.04, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2899.04, "end": 2901.38, "text": " I remember the 7110." }, { "start": 2901.38, "end": 2904.52, "text": " This was the one that you could just kind of shoot down and you had to like break the" }, { "start": 2904.52, "end": 2907.04, "text": " hinge a little to get it to shoot and then it was great." }, { "start": 2907.04, "end": 2908.04, "text": " Yep." }, { "start": 2908.04, "end": 2909.04, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2909.04, "end": 2910.04, "text": " And apparently." }, { "start": 2910.04, "end": 2911.04, "text": " Audio is so bad." }, { "start": 2911.04, "end": 2914.68, "text": " Back when I made phone calls and I memorized people's numbers." }, { "start": 2914.68, "end": 2919.44, "text": " You know what I realized yesterday is that I have not memorized a person's number in probably" }, { "start": 2919.44, "end": 2920.44, "text": " 10 years." }, { "start": 2920.44, "end": 2922.48, "text": " Like I remember my girlfriend from seventh grade." }, { "start": 2922.48, "end": 2923.8, "text": " I still remember her number." }, { "start": 2923.8, "end": 2924.8, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2924.8, "end": 2926.5600000000004, "text": " But like, I don't know anybody's number." }, { "start": 2926.5600000000004, "end": 2927.5600000000004, "text": " No me either." }, { "start": 2927.5600000000004, "end": 2930.32, "text": " Which is terrible because if I'm ever in an emergency, I'm going to, they're going to" }, { "start": 2930.32, "end": 2931.48, "text": " call my seventh grade girlfriend." }, { "start": 2931.48, "end": 2932.48, "text": " There's a startup." }, { "start": 2932.48, "end": 2933.92, "text": " She's going to have to like solve all these problems for me." }, { "start": 2933.92, "end": 2935.1600000000003, "text": " I just thought of a startup." }, { "start": 2935.1600000000003, "end": 2936.1600000000003, "text": " So you have a number." }, { "start": 2936.1600000000003, "end": 2937.1600000000003, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2937.1600000000003, "end": 2938.32, "text": " And so here's what it is." }, { "start": 2938.32, "end": 2942.4, "text": " So no matter where you are, you have your number and you call it." }, { "start": 2942.4, "end": 2944.1200000000003, "text": " Let's say it's only, I don't know, it's five digits or whatever." }, { "start": 2944.1200000000003, "end": 2945.1200000000003, "text": " It's your seventh grade girlfriend." }, { "start": 2945.1200000000003, "end": 2947.32, "text": " And they just direct you straight to her." }, { "start": 2947.32, "end": 2951.9, "text": " And it is a voice activated interface that has your contacts built into it." }, { "start": 2951.9, "end": 2954.88, "text": " And then you say, call dad or whatever, and then it puts you through." }, { "start": 2954.88, "end": 2955.88, "text": " That's kind of a great idea." }, { "start": 2955.88, "end": 2957.6800000000003, "text": " And it's just for emergencies." }, { "start": 2957.6800000000003, "end": 2961, "text": " You just gave somebody this startup idea for free." }, { "start": 2961, "end": 2962.88, "text": " You should have kept that up there, my friend." }, { "start": 2962.88, "end": 2963.88, "text": " You got to say patent pending." }, { "start": 2963.88, "end": 2964.88, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2964.88, "end": 2965.88, "text": " That solves all your problems." }, { "start": 2965.88, "end": 2966.88, "text": " Patent pending." }, { "start": 2966.88, "end": 2967.88, "text": " That's okay." }, { "start": 2967.88, "end": 2968.88, "text": " We'll get our very scary legal team." }, { "start": 2968.88, "end": 2969.88, "text": " That's kind of a cool idea though, right?" }, { "start": 2969.88, "end": 2970.88, "text": " That is a cool idea." }, { "start": 2970.88, "end": 2971.88, "text": " Like I guess." }, { "start": 2971.88, "end": 2972.88, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2972.88, "end": 2974.76, "text": " I'd use it like once and then forget that it existed because I'd forget the number is" }, { "start": 2974.76, "end": 2975.76, "text": " the problem." }, { "start": 2975.76, "end": 2976.76, "text": " Well, I think-" }, { "start": 2976.76, "end": 2977.76, "text": " Like I don't remember numbers." }, { "start": 2977.76, "end": 2979.52, "text": " It would be like 1-800-DAVID-RULES or something like that." }, { "start": 2979.52, "end": 2980.6800000000003, "text": " Like you could pick it out." }, { "start": 2980.68, "end": 2983.6, "text": " If everyone has to call 1-800-DAVID-RULES, I'm in." }, { "start": 2983.6, "end": 2985.2, "text": " Like I'm 100% in on this startup." }, { "start": 2985.2, "end": 2986.7999999999997, "text": " It's like Angie's List, David Rules." }, { "start": 2986.7999999999997, "end": 2987.7999999999997, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 2987.7999999999997, "end": 2988.7999999999997, "text": " Exactly." }, { "start": 2988.7999999999997, "end": 2989.7999999999997, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 2989.7999999999997, "end": 2994.2799999999997, "text": " I think there was this changeover moment where all of a sudden every phone was connected" }, { "start": 2994.2799999999997, "end": 2999.04, "text": " to some like online contact storage service, whether it be Google, whether it be iCloud," }, { "start": 2999.04, "end": 3000.04, "text": " whatever." }, { "start": 3000.04, "end": 3001.72, "text": " And then like phone numbers just ceased to matter." }, { "start": 3001.72, "end": 3006.2, "text": " But before that, every time you changed phones, it was like this epic disaster because you" }, { "start": 3006.2, "end": 3008.6, "text": " needed to move all of your contacts over by hand." }, { "start": 3008.6, "end": 3011.56, "text": " And it made more sense to know phone numbers back then." }, { "start": 3011.56, "end": 3015.36, "text": " But now it's just like, I log into whatever and boom, everything is there." }, { "start": 3015.36, "end": 3016.36, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 3016.36, "end": 3019.2799999999997, "text": " Well, and now I've always done this thing with people's names where I'm like, hi, I'm" }, { "start": 3019.2799999999997, "end": 3020.2799999999997, "text": " David." }, { "start": 3020.2799999999997, "end": 3022.36, "text": " And then as they're saying hi, I'm just like off somewhere else, not paying attention." }, { "start": 3022.36, "end": 3025.2, "text": " And then not only do I not know their name, I just never learned it." }, { "start": 3025.2, "end": 3026.2, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3026.2, "end": 3027.2, "text": " Should have bumped with them." }, { "start": 3027.2, "end": 3028.2, "text": " It's the same." }, { "start": 3028.2, "end": 3029.2, "text": " No." }, { "start": 3029.2, "end": 3030.2, "text": " That's because you're wearing Google Glass." }, { "start": 3030.2, "end": 3031.2, "text": " Here's your shot." }, { "start": 3031.2, "end": 3033.64, "text": " You should get bumped to buy your startup and then you're golden." }, { "start": 3033.64, "end": 3034.64, "text": " Bump?" }, { "start": 3034.64, "end": 3035.64, "text": " Who bought bump?" }, { "start": 3035.64, "end": 3036.64, "text": " Did somebody buy bump?" }, { "start": 3036.64, "end": 3037.64, "text": " Oh yeah." }, { "start": 3037.64, "end": 3039.2, "text": " So basically we all work for Google now." }, { "start": 3039.2, "end": 3040.8799999999997, "text": " That just happened." }, { "start": 3040.8799999999997, "end": 3041.8799999999997, "text": " That is where we're going." }, { "start": 3041.8799999999997, "end": 3042.8799999999997, "text": " Congratulations." }, { "start": 3042.8799999999997, "end": 3043.8799999999997, "text": " We're all billionaires." }, { "start": 3043.8799999999997, "end": 3044.8799999999997, "text": " That could be cool, by the way." }, { "start": 3044.8799999999997, "end": 3050.2, "text": " I mean, in maybe two versions of Android ahead, you got Google bump." }, { "start": 3050.2, "end": 3051.2, "text": " That's how you can share whatever you want." }, { "start": 3051.2, "end": 3053.12, "text": " I mean, you can already do that with Beam." }, { "start": 3053.12, "end": 3054.72, "text": " Is that a Samsung feature?" }, { "start": 3054.72, "end": 3055.72, "text": " Mm-hmm." }, { "start": 3055.72, "end": 3056.72, "text": " S Beam." }, { "start": 3056.72, "end": 3057.72, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 3057.72, "end": 3058.72, "text": " So that feels like it could very much be a standard feature." }, { "start": 3058.72, "end": 3062.24, "text": " No, but Android Beam is a built-in thing." }, { "start": 3062.24, "end": 3065.52, "text": " But I think I remember somebody at Samsung telling me this." }, { "start": 3065.52, "end": 3068.12, "text": " Apparently Android Beam sucks." }, { "start": 3068.12, "end": 3069.2, "text": " Of course, they're biased." }, { "start": 3069.2, "end": 3075.08, "text": " But I think the explanation was that Android Beam doesn't have any conduits to actually" }, { "start": 3075.08, "end": 3077.04, "text": " transfer anything useful." }, { "start": 3077.04, "end": 3078.68, "text": " Also NFC is just dead." }, { "start": 3078.68, "end": 3079.68, "text": " It is." }, { "start": 3079.68, "end": 3082.56, "text": " I want it to be cool so badly and it's just dead." }, { "start": 3082.56, "end": 3085.32, "text": " There are all these startups now that are doing the same thing but with audio." }, { "start": 3085.32, "end": 3086.56, "text": " Clinkle, which I can't..." }, { "start": 3086.56, "end": 3087.56, "text": " I mean, every time I say Clinkle." }, { "start": 3087.56, "end": 3088.56, "text": " Wait, is that a thing?" }, { "start": 3088.56, "end": 3089.56, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3089.56, "end": 3091.56, "text": " I have to key now, now that you said that." }, { "start": 3091.56, "end": 3092.64, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3092.64, "end": 3093.64, "text": " And then there's bump." }, { "start": 3093.64, "end": 3094.64, "text": " There's, you know." }, { "start": 3094.64, "end": 3095.64, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3095.64, "end": 3100.12, "text": " So what they're all doing is they're using audio or they're just using your location," }, { "start": 3100.12, "end": 3103.6, "text": " which for most places besides New York City is pretty fine." }, { "start": 3103.6, "end": 3104.6, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3104.6, "end": 3105.6, "text": " That's fair, I guess." }, { "start": 3105.6, "end": 3106.6, "text": " They know you're in the Chipotle." }, { "start": 3106.6, "end": 3107.6, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 3107.6, "end": 3110.92, "text": " But whereas in New York, you're walking down the street and they're like, are you in Chipotle" }, { "start": 3110.92, "end": 3113.3199999999997, "text": " or are you in the Duane Reade or are you at work?" }, { "start": 3113.3199999999997, "end": 3114.3199999999997, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 3114.3199999999997, "end": 3115.3199999999997, "text": " There are 160 places you can do." }, { "start": 3115.3199999999997, "end": 3117.8799999999997, "text": " Because there's 10 places in one building, Sim Tower style." }, { "start": 3117.8799999999997, "end": 3119.8799999999997, "text": " So you're saying those are the three places you go." }, { "start": 3119.8799999999997, "end": 3122.04, "text": " You go to Chipotle, Duane Reade, and work." }, { "start": 3122.04, "end": 3123.04, "text": " That was a Freudian slip." }, { "start": 3123.04, "end": 3124.04, "text": " That's where you find all those hamburgers." }, { "start": 3124.04, "end": 3125.04, "text": " That's where you find all those hamburgers." }, { "start": 3125.04, "end": 3126.04, "text": " That's a Freudian slip." }, { "start": 3126.04, "end": 3129.44, "text": " I mean, that does kind of meet all of your needs when you think about it." }, { "start": 3129.44, "end": 3135.04, "text": " I mean, where would you have to go in life besides Chipotle, Duane Reade, and work?" }, { "start": 3135.04, "end": 3136.04, "text": " Nowhere." }, { "start": 3136.04, "end": 3137.04, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3137.04, "end": 3138.64, "text": " You're not wrong." }, { "start": 3138.64, "end": 3141.84, "text": " So yeah, NFC is just getting blown away by all." }, { "start": 3141.84, "end": 3146.92, "text": " I mean, if you look at what Square's doing, which is quickly becoming the mobile marketplace" }, { "start": 3146.92, "end": 3152.36, "text": " payments king, at least for indie merchants, they have no interest in NFC." }, { "start": 3152.36, "end": 3157.88, "text": " No, I feel like NFC is going to keep being cool for tapping, pairing your phone with" }, { "start": 3157.88, "end": 3158.88, "text": " a speaker or something." }, { "start": 3158.88, "end": 3160.2000000000003, "text": " We all love the idea of it." }, { "start": 3160.2000000000003, "end": 3165.76, "text": " It's just figuring out the security with every carrier and every phone manufacturer has just" }, { "start": 3165.76, "end": 3167.84, "text": " clearly proven to be too much of a challenge." }, { "start": 3167.84, "end": 3172.6400000000003, "text": " Every other way of moving stuff between my phone and your phone is terrible." }, { "start": 3172.6400000000003, "end": 3173.6400000000003, "text": " Airdrop is the worst." }, { "start": 3173.6400000000003, "end": 3174.6400000000003, "text": " I hate airdrop." }, { "start": 3174.6400000000003, "end": 3180.56, "text": " I had a handspring, since we're going retro today, I had a handspring visor." }, { "start": 3180.56, "end": 3181.7200000000003, "text": " That was another thing I really wanted." }, { "start": 3181.72, "end": 3182.72, "text": " It was just the coolest." }, { "start": 3182.72, "end": 3183.72, "text": " I couldn't afford to sub up on a crappy Palm." }, { "start": 3183.72, "end": 3188.7599999999998, "text": " I would get my friend's Palm Pilot or whatever on an adjacent desk and we would just line" }, { "start": 3188.7599999999998, "end": 3189.7599999999998, "text": " them up perfectly." }, { "start": 3189.7599999999998, "end": 3195.48, "text": " You remember in Star Trek Into Darkness, I can't believe I'm referencing this movie." }, { "start": 3195.48, "end": 3198.08, "text": " I've blocked that out of my brain." }, { "start": 3198.08, "end": 3202, "text": " When Kirk and, oh, I don't want to spoil it, but anyway, there's a ship jump." }, { "start": 3202, "end": 3205.08, "text": " There's a ship jump between two ships and that's what you had to do with the two Palm" }, { "start": 3205.08, "end": 3209.64, "text": " Pilots with the infrared readers and you could just send 16 kilobytes or whatever you want" }, { "start": 3209.64, "end": 3210.64, "text": " to do." }, { "start": 3210.64, "end": 3215.08, "text": " And it was great and that was probably the best system that has existed since then." }, { "start": 3215.08, "end": 3217.08, "text": " Everything else is just terrible." }, { "start": 3217.08, "end": 3218.08, "text": " Speaking of sci-fi." }, { "start": 3218.08, "end": 3219.3199999999997, "text": " But you can scan my barcode." }, { "start": 3219.3199999999997, "end": 3221.8399999999997, "text": " We should hit on Star Wars really quick, huh?" }, { "start": 3221.8399999999997, "end": 3222.8399999999997, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 3222.8399999999997, "end": 3226.04, "text": " Actually before we do that, Chris, you have to go get on an airplane." }, { "start": 3226.04, "end": 3227.3599999999997, "text": " We have to kick you out." }, { "start": 3227.3599999999997, "end": 3228.68, "text": " So there are two things going on here." }, { "start": 3228.68, "end": 3233.7999999999997, "text": " One, I have to get on an aircraft and two, my replacement, the lovely and talented Ross" }, { "start": 3233.7999999999997, "end": 3235.72, "text": " Miller is far more..." }, { "start": 3235.72, "end": 3237.48, "text": " Would we call him lovely?" }, { "start": 3237.48, "end": 3238.48, "text": " I think he's lovely." }, { "start": 3238.48, "end": 3241.68, "text": " I feel like he's more ruggedly handsome than he is lovely." }, { "start": 3241.68, "end": 3244.8, "text": " You can be lovely and handsome and rugged, I think." }, { "start": 3244.8, "end": 3246.44, "text": " That's the Ross Miller experience right there." }, { "start": 3246.44, "end": 3247.44, "text": " Yeah, lovely and rugged." }, { "start": 3247.44, "end": 3248.44, "text": " Lovely and rugged." }, { "start": 3248.44, "end": 3251.44, "text": " That's going to be the name of his debut album, by the way." }, { "start": 3251.44, "end": 3252.44, "text": " I'm in." }, { "start": 3252.44, "end": 3253.44, "text": " I pre-ordered it just now." }, { "start": 3253.44, "end": 3257.16, "text": " So Ross is more of a Star Wars..." }, { "start": 3257.16, "end": 3259.32, "text": " Before the show started, he's like, I have a lot to say about this." }, { "start": 3259.32, "end": 3261.2400000000002, "text": " So I'm going to let him talk about this." }, { "start": 3261.2400000000002, "end": 3262.96, "text": " I'm going to step away." }, { "start": 3262.96, "end": 3264.04, "text": " I can see him over there." }, { "start": 3264.04, "end": 3265.04, "text": " He's like twitching." }, { "start": 3265.04, "end": 3266.04, "text": " This is Ross' time." }, { "start": 3266.04, "end": 3267.04, "text": " He wants to talk about it so bad." }, { "start": 3267.04, "end": 3269.96, "text": " I'm going to pull in Evan Rogers and just ninja his way onto the set here and then he'll" }, { "start": 3269.96, "end": 3271.12, "text": " just magically appear." }, { "start": 3271.12, "end": 3274.36, "text": " But it has been absolutely fantastic chatting with you gentlemen." }, { "start": 3274.36, "end": 3275.36, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3275.36, "end": 3276.36, "text": " And I wish you..." }, { "start": 3276.36, "end": 3277.36, "text": " It's been medium, I would say." }, { "start": 3277.36, "end": 3278.36, "text": " Are you actually leaving right now?" }, { "start": 3278.36, "end": 3279.36, "text": " Is this it?" }, { "start": 3279.36, "end": 3280.36, "text": " I'm literally walking downstairs in my new cab." }, { "start": 3280.36, "end": 3281.36, "text": " All right, dude." }, { "start": 3281.36, "end": 3282.36, "text": " See you soon, I guess." }, { "start": 3282.36, "end": 3283.36, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3283.36, "end": 3284.36, "text": " Travel safe." }, { "start": 3284.36, "end": 3285.36, "text": " Very soon." }, { "start": 3285.36, "end": 3286.36, "text": " I'm not going to shake your hand because I just don't..." }, { "start": 3286.36, "end": 3288.16, "text": " I don't respect you as much as I respect my man, Ellis." }, { "start": 3288.16, "end": 3289.16, "text": " That's fair." }, { "start": 3289.16, "end": 3290.16, "text": " I understand." }, { "start": 3290.16, "end": 3293.24, "text": " Look, you guys are BBM bros and I'll just sit here and not be a BBM bro." }, { "start": 3293.24, "end": 3294.24, "text": " I have Ellis' ID memorized." }, { "start": 3294.24, "end": 3295.24, "text": " It's not true." }, { "start": 3295.24, "end": 3297.24, "text": " So does Ellis." }, { "start": 3297.24, "end": 3300.24, "text": " Meanwhile, all I have is my seventh grade girlfriend's phone number." }, { "start": 3300.24, "end": 3301.24, "text": " You mean my PIN?" }, { "start": 3301.24, "end": 3302.24, "text": " Yeah, your PIN." }, { "start": 3302.24, "end": 3303.24, "text": " Okay, good." }, { "start": 3303.24, "end": 3305.16, "text": " Your hex, your eight digit hex code." }, { "start": 3305.16, "end": 3307.7999999999997, "text": " That's the only way you can identify humans in the future." }, { "start": 3307.7999999999997, "end": 3310.6, "text": " This is my friend C1640E." }, { "start": 3310.6, "end": 3311.6, "text": " All right." }, { "start": 3311.6, "end": 3312.6, "text": " Bye, Chris." }, { "start": 3312.6, "end": 3313.6, "text": " Thank you very much." }, { "start": 3313.6, "end": 3314.6, "text": " Bye, Chris." }, { "start": 3314.6, "end": 3315.6, "text": " Thank you for being with us." }, { "start": 3315.6, "end": 3316.6, "text": " My pleasure." }, { "start": 3316.6, "end": 3317.6, "text": " So, okay, wait, Ellis, here's my theory." }, { "start": 3317.6, "end": 3318.6, "text": " You don't know my theory." }, { "start": 3318.6, "end": 3320.2599999999998, "text": " You just made me think of something." }, { "start": 3320.26, "end": 3327.1200000000003, "text": " So we've written a bunch of times about having the one true identification thing where instead" }, { "start": 3327.1200000000003, "end": 3332, "text": " of your phone number and your email address and your Blackberry PIN, Blackberry kind of" }, { "start": 3332, "end": 3333, "text": " had that." }, { "start": 3333, "end": 3334, "text": " That was my thing." }, { "start": 3334, "end": 3335.96, "text": " That was the thing I gave to everybody so that we could be friends." }, { "start": 3335.96, "end": 3336.96, "text": " They had your ID." }, { "start": 3336.96, "end": 3337.96, "text": " They did." }, { "start": 3337.96, "end": 3338.96, "text": " That was all I needed." }, { "start": 3338.96, "end": 3341.8, "text": " It was some stupid numeric thing that I didn't know anymore." }, { "start": 3341.8, "end": 3342.8, "text": " Are we still talking about Blackberry here?" }, { "start": 3342.8, "end": 3343.8, "text": " We are." }, { "start": 3343.8, "end": 3344.8, "text": " I have a lot of thoughts about BBM." }, { "start": 3344.8, "end": 3345.8, "text": " I don't know about talking about that Blackberry." }, { "start": 3345.8, "end": 3348.5600000000004, "text": " It turns out I'm really angry at BBM for not being great." }, { "start": 3348.5600000000004, "end": 3349.5600000000004, "text": " We don't get to talk about it." }, { "start": 3349.56, "end": 3350.96, "text": " Are we still?" }, { "start": 3350.96, "end": 3353.08, "text": " It's just, it could be so good." }, { "start": 3353.08, "end": 3355.52, "text": " I'm so tired of text messaging from my phone." }, { "start": 3355.52, "end": 3356.52, "text": " Let it go." }, { "start": 3356.52, "end": 3357.52, "text": " I'm so tired of it." }, { "start": 3357.52, "end": 3358.52, "text": " Thanks, Will." }, { "start": 3358.52, "end": 3362.04, "text": " Everyone, everyone on earth is like down on Blackberry right now." }, { "start": 3362.04, "end": 3363.04, "text": " No, but so, okay, so." }, { "start": 3363.04, "end": 3364.04, "text": " Just be nice." }, { "start": 3364.04, "end": 3365.04, "text": " I don't, it's not even Blackberry's fault." }, { "start": 3365.04, "end": 3366.04, "text": " Love Blackberry." }, { "start": 3366.04, "end": 3367.04, "text": " Learn to love it." }, { "start": 3367.04, "end": 3368.04, "text": " It's just everyone's fault because I wanted Blackberry to solve this." }, { "start": 3368.04, "end": 3370.68, "text": " So I was sitting with my, I was texting with a buddy last night who I haven't talked to" }, { "start": 3370.68, "end": 3371.68, "text": " in forever and he texted me." }, { "start": 3371.68, "end": 3372.68, "text": " He's like, how are you?" }, { "start": 3372.68, "end": 3375.68, "text": " And I was like, oh no, this is going to take me so long to respond to." }, { "start": 3375.68, "end": 3378.12, "text": " And then I'm sitting there on my phone texting for like four and a half hours." }, { "start": 3378.12, "end": 3379.64, "text": " It's stupid to say, I'm good." }, { "start": 3379.64, "end": 3380.64, "text": " Thank you." }, { "start": 3380.64, "end": 3381.64, "text": " How are you?" }, { "start": 3381.64, "end": 3384.48, "text": " No, no, we're, we have a, we have a sincere and loving relationship." }, { "start": 3384.48, "end": 3385.48, "text": " Don't ever text me, Ellis." }, { "start": 3385.48, "end": 3386.48, "text": " You'll get very short-cut responses." }, { "start": 3386.48, "end": 3387.48, "text": " All right, fine." }, { "start": 3387.48, "end": 3388.48, "text": " Let's talk about Star Wars." }, { "start": 3388.48, "end": 3389.48, "text": " Ross, tell me about Star Wars." }, { "start": 3389.48, "end": 3390.48, "text": " I want to talk about Star Wars." }, { "start": 3390.48, "end": 3391.8399999999997, "text": " I have something I have to call you." }, { "start": 3391.8399999999997, "end": 3392.8399999999997, "text": " I'm very angry at you." }, { "start": 3392.8399999999997, "end": 3393.8399999999997, "text": " I'm very mad at you." }, { "start": 3393.8399999999997, "end": 3394.8399999999997, "text": " Let's talk about this." }, { "start": 3394.8399999999997, "end": 3395.8399999999997, "text": " First off, how are you?" }, { "start": 3395.8399999999997, "end": 3397.64, "text": " Tell me about your commute in the morning." }, { "start": 3397.64, "end": 3398.64, "text": " Cause I read about your commute this morning." }, { "start": 3398.64, "end": 3400.4, "text": " And you know what you do?" }, { "start": 3400.4, "end": 3401.4, "text": " You open your laptop on the subway." }, { "start": 3401.4, "end": 3402.4, "text": " Dude, I'm that guy." }, { "start": 3402.4, "end": 3403.4, "text": " I am so unabashedly that guy." }, { "start": 3403.4, "end": 3404.4, "text": " Why?" }, { "start": 3404.4, "end": 3405.4, "text": " Do not be that guy." }, { "start": 3405.4, "end": 3410.2400000000002, "text": " Subway is a crowded subway and you're that jerk sitting down with your laptop open playing" }, { "start": 3410.2400000000002, "end": 3411.2400000000002, "text": " Portal 2." }, { "start": 3411.2400000000002, "end": 3412.2400000000002, "text": " That was the best." }, { "start": 3412.2400000000002, "end": 3413.2400000000002, "text": " Okay, so I'm on the subway." }, { "start": 3413.2400000000002, "end": 3414.2400000000002, "text": " Wait, is that for real?" }, { "start": 3414.2400000000002, "end": 3415.2400000000002, "text": " Yeah, yeah." }, { "start": 3415.2400000000002, "end": 3416.2400000000002, "text": " No, that happened." }, { "start": 3416.2400000000002, "end": 3417.2400000000002, "text": " It's not like you're like writing reviews or whatever." }, { "start": 3417.2400000000002, "end": 3418.2400000000002, "text": " You're playing Portal." }, { "start": 3418.2400000000002, "end": 3422.12, "text": " You are one step away from the guy who plays World of Warcraft at Starbucks with a desktop" }, { "start": 3422.12, "end": 3423.12, "text": " tower." }, { "start": 3423.12, "end": 3424.12, "text": " That guy's badass." }, { "start": 3424.12, "end": 3425.12, "text": " I like that guy." }, { "start": 3425.12, "end": 3426.64, "text": " I would like to be friends with that guy." }, { "start": 3426.64, "end": 3427.64, "text": " No, so, okay." }, { "start": 3427.64, "end": 3431.8, "text": " So I'm on the subway yesterday coming to work and first they delay my subway." }, { "start": 3431.8, "end": 3432.8, "text": " Then they redirect it." }, { "start": 3432.8, "end": 3434.08, "text": " So I have to switch subways." }, { "start": 3434.08, "end": 3435.88, "text": " Then they delay my other subway." }, { "start": 3435.88, "end": 3436.88, "text": " Everybody else on the subway furious." }, { "start": 3436.88, "end": 3437.88, "text": " I'm just sitting there." }, { "start": 3437.88, "end": 3438.88, "text": " I was like, cool." }, { "start": 3438.88, "end": 3439.88, "text": " I got like an hour and a half to play Portal now." }, { "start": 3439.88, "end": 3440.88, "text": " It was the best." }, { "start": 3440.88, "end": 3443.08, "text": " It was like the best part of my whole day was being delayed on the subway." }, { "start": 3443.08, "end": 3444.08, "text": " What about the old woman?" }, { "start": 3444.08, "end": 3445.08, "text": " Because I had a MacBook Pro." }, { "start": 3445.08, "end": 3446.08, "text": " The pregnant woman, the blind man, the guy with the..." }, { "start": 3446.08, "end": 3451.08, "text": " Look, there are so many other seats and I'm so comfortable that it's just not even my" }, { "start": 3451.08, "end": 3452.08, "text": " problem." }, { "start": 3452.08, "end": 3453.08, "text": " How do you have a not crowded commute?" }, { "start": 3453.08, "end": 3454.08, "text": " What train are you using?" }, { "start": 3454.08, "end": 3455.56, "text": " What magical time are you going to work where it's not completely crowded?" }, { "start": 3455.56, "end": 3457.04, "text": " Oh no, it's completely crowded." }, { "start": 3457.04, "end": 3460.52, "text": " And I just, I put in headphones and then it's not my problem anymore." }, { "start": 3460.52, "end": 3461.52, "text": " That's all." }, { "start": 3461.52, "end": 3462.52, "text": " That's all I'm saying." }, { "start": 3462.52, "end": 3464.2, "text": " So let's talk about Star Wars." }, { "start": 3464.2, "end": 3465.2, "text": " Tell me about Star Wars." }, { "start": 3465.2, "end": 3466.2, "text": " What happened to Star Wars?" }, { "start": 3466.2, "end": 3467.32, "text": " There's not much to say about Star Wars except that they just completely changed the writers" }, { "start": 3467.32, "end": 3468.32, "text": " over." }, { "start": 3468.32, "end": 3469.32, "text": " So they announced the cast." }, { "start": 3469.32, "end": 3470.32, "text": " Minor detail." }, { "start": 3470.32, "end": 3471.32, "text": " Just a little bit of a thing." }, { "start": 3471.32, "end": 3473, "text": " Michael Arndt, who actually has a great career to Toy Story 3." }, { "start": 3473, "end": 3474, "text": " He did Little Miss Sunshine." }, { "start": 3474, "end": 3475, "text": " Yep." }, { "start": 3475, "end": 3476, "text": " Great movie." }, { "start": 3476, "end": 3477, "text": " He's out." }, { "start": 3477, "end": 3478, "text": " No one knows why." }, { "start": 3478, "end": 3479, "text": " But really he just..." }, { "start": 3479, "end": 3480, "text": " We don't know." }, { "start": 3480, "end": 3481, "text": " We'll find out." }, { "start": 3481, "end": 3482, "text": " Because he's good." }, { "start": 3482, "end": 3483, "text": " It's not like he's very good." }, { "start": 3483, "end": 3484, "text": " He's like some hack that they got rid of once they had money." }, { "start": 3484, "end": 3487.68, "text": " They did get Lawrence Kasdan, who as we know wrote and directed Dreamcatcher, the Stephen" }, { "start": 3487.68, "end": 3490.28, "text": " King terrible horror movie." }, { "start": 3490.28, "end": 3492.8, "text": " He also did Empire Strikes Back and Raiders of the Lost Ark." }, { "start": 3492.8, "end": 3493.8, "text": " So it's a good cast." }, { "start": 3493.8, "end": 3495.52, "text": " Tim, J.J. Abrams has a writing credit." }, { "start": 3495.52, "end": 3496.52, "text": " Whatever that means." }, { "start": 3496.52, "end": 3497.52, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 3497.52, "end": 3498.52, "text": " It just means I have input I'm sure." }, { "start": 3498.52, "end": 3500.4, "text": " I don't know if he's actually getting down with the script and the dialogue." }, { "start": 3500.4, "end": 3501.4, "text": " I bet he is." }, { "start": 3501.4, "end": 3503.32, "text": " I mean this is the most pressure in the world." }, { "start": 3503.32, "end": 3504.32, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3504.32, "end": 3505.32, "text": " It really is." }, { "start": 3505.32, "end": 3506.32, "text": " So the difference between..." }, { "start": 3506.32, "end": 3509.92, "text": " This and the last episode of Lost are the most terrifying things to ever do." }, { "start": 3509.92, "end": 3511.2000000000003, "text": " Except he didn't write that, did he?" }, { "start": 3511.2000000000003, "end": 3512.6800000000003, "text": " And he blew the last episode of Lost." }, { "start": 3512.6800000000003, "end": 3513.6800000000003, "text": " I don't even..." }, { "start": 3513.6800000000003, "end": 3516.2000000000003, "text": " He was hands off after Lost's first season." }, { "start": 3516.2000000000003, "end": 3517.2000000000003, "text": " He literally..." }, { "start": 3517.2000000000003, "end": 3518.2000000000003, "text": " That's the J.J. Abrams way." }, { "start": 3518.2000000000003, "end": 3519.2000000000003, "text": " Here's a mystery box." }, { "start": 3519.2000000000003, "end": 3520.2000000000003, "text": " Bye." }, { "start": 3520.2, "end": 3521.2, "text": " Exactly." }, { "start": 3521.2, "end": 3522.2, "text": " Did you guys like..." }, { "start": 3522.2, "end": 3523.2, "text": " Fringe is good." }, { "start": 3523.2, "end": 3524.2, "text": " Did you guys like Star Trek?" }, { "start": 3524.2, "end": 3525.2, "text": " Don't watch the end of it." }, { "start": 3525.2, "end": 3526.2, "text": " The movie?" }, { "start": 3526.2, "end": 3527.2, "text": " Which one?" }, { "start": 3527.2, "end": 3528.2, "text": " The first one?" }, { "start": 3528.2, "end": 3529.2, "text": " Yeah, the reboot." }, { "start": 3529.2, "end": 3530.2, "text": " Yeah, I liked that." }, { "start": 3530.2, "end": 3531.2, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3531.2, "end": 3534.3599999999997, "text": " So I thought that on the first Star Trek, J.J.'s like, I'm at the helm of a really important" }, { "start": 3534.3599999999997, "end": 3535.3599999999997, "text": " franchise." }, { "start": 3535.3599999999997, "end": 3536.68, "text": " I'm going to try hard." }, { "start": 3536.68, "end": 3537.68, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 3537.68, "end": 3540.64, "text": " And when he tries hard, he can do amazing stuff." }, { "start": 3540.64, "end": 3544.48, "text": " And I thought that Into Darkness was a lot scrappier." }, { "start": 3544.48, "end": 3548.12, "text": " I still enjoyed parts of it, but it just didn't feel like the level of effort from J.J. was" }, { "start": 3548.12, "end": 3549.12, "text": " on there." }, { "start": 3549.12, "end": 3550.12, "text": " It was like, ah, I got this." }, { "start": 3550.12, "end": 3551.12, "text": " And so you know what?" }, { "start": 3551.12, "end": 3552.12, "text": " I'm happy this is happening." }, { "start": 3552.12, "end": 3555.6, "text": " I think that that dude is a smart dude." }, { "start": 3555.6, "end": 3560.4, "text": " And I'm glad that it's completely within his control now as a director and perhaps co-writer." }, { "start": 3560.4, "end": 3564.04, "text": " So but should we be worried that there's all this weird upheaval on Star Wars?" }, { "start": 3564.04, "end": 3567.44, "text": " I feel like Star Wars needs to be perfect and everybody needs to be in control and everything" }, { "start": 3567.44, "end": 3568.44, "text": " needs to be great." }, { "start": 3568.44, "end": 3571.68, "text": " I don't think this is as bad as the Prometheus last minute release Scott brings in." }, { "start": 3571.68, "end": 3572.68, "text": " Well, yeah." }, { "start": 3572.68, "end": 3575.56, "text": " Damon Lindelof to kind of screw up the whole Alien Engineer script and not make it kind" }, { "start": 3575.56, "end": 3576.8399999999997, "text": " of like Aliens, but kind of make it like Aliens." }, { "start": 3576.8399999999997, "end": 3577.8399999999997, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3577.84, "end": 3581.1200000000003, "text": " I mean, if you put out Lawrence Kasdan, who's a Star Wars veteran, everyone loves him." }, { "start": 3581.1200000000003, "end": 3582.1200000000003, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3582.1200000000003, "end": 3584.48, "text": " I honestly think I don't know if it was Michael Arndt not wanting to be in it, but they just" }, { "start": 3584.48, "end": 3586.04, "text": " found someone better." }, { "start": 3586.04, "end": 3587.04, "text": " It's so early." }, { "start": 3587.04, "end": 3588.6800000000003, "text": " It's not shooting until spring 2015." }, { "start": 3588.6800000000003, "end": 3590, "text": " They can screw with the script until then." }, { "start": 3590, "end": 3591.6400000000003, "text": " They can screw with the script after that." }, { "start": 3591.6400000000003, "end": 3593.48, "text": " Special effects are amazing these days." }, { "start": 3593.48, "end": 3594.48, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3594.48, "end": 3596.1600000000003, "text": " No, I don't think it's bad news." }, { "start": 3596.1600000000003, "end": 3598.48, "text": " There's not much else to say about it except one's out, one's in." }, { "start": 3598.48, "end": 3601.2400000000002, "text": " So it's worth pointing out that if I'm on the-" }, { "start": 3601.2400000000002, "end": 3602.36, "text": " Oh, he did Mumford." }, { "start": 3602.36, "end": 3604.44, "text": " I'm on the Internet Movie Database right now." }, { "start": 3604.44, "end": 3605.44, "text": " It's a website." }, { "start": 3605.44, "end": 3607.44, "text": " You may have heard of it." }, { "start": 3607.44, "end": 3611.48, "text": " So if you look at Lawrence, I'm on here all the time and then I look and then because" }, { "start": 3611.48, "end": 3613.7200000000003, "text": " it's always available, I forget what I just looked at." }, { "start": 3613.7200000000003, "end": 3614.7200000000003, "text": " Owned by Amazon." }, { "start": 3614.7200000000003, "end": 3615.7200000000003, "text": " Fun fact." }, { "start": 3615.7200000000003, "end": 3616.7200000000003, "text": " Is it really?" }, { "start": 3616.7200000000003, "end": 3617.7200000000003, "text": " True story." }, { "start": 3617.7200000000003, "end": 3618.7200000000003, "text": " Look at that." }, { "start": 3618.7200000000003, "end": 3619.7200000000003, "text": " Smart." }, { "start": 3619.7200000000003, "end": 3620.7200000000003, "text": " Man." }, { "start": 3620.7200000000003, "end": 3621.7200000000003, "text": " Bezos." }, { "start": 3621.7200000000003, "end": 3622.7200000000003, "text": " It's super possible I just lied about that." }, { "start": 3622.7200000000003, "end": 3623.7200000000003, "text": " No, I'm right." }, { "start": 3623.7200000000003, "end": 3624.7200000000003, "text": " Did it." }, { "start": 3624.7200000000003, "end": 3625.84, "text": " Apparently, Lawrence Kasdan has directed a couple of things I've never heard of in the" }, { "start": 3625.84, "end": 3628.28, "text": " last 10 years." }, { "start": 3628.28, "end": 3636.36, "text": " But in terms of writing, this dude's been pretty off the map since he, I guess I hadn't" }, { "start": 3636.36, "end": 3638.1600000000003, "text": " heard of Dreamcatcher." }, { "start": 3638.1600000000003, "end": 3640.4, "text": " I do not recommend Dreamcatcher." }, { "start": 3640.4, "end": 3641.4, "text": " I really don't." }, { "start": 3641.4, "end": 3643.48, "text": " But everything else here is wonderful." }, { "start": 3643.48, "end": 3644.48, "text": " He did Mumford, which is actually kind of good." }, { "start": 3644.48, "end": 3645.48, "text": " But it was 20 years ago." }, { "start": 3645.48, "end": 3646.48, "text": " White Earth, The Bodyguard." }, { "start": 3646.48, "end": 3647.48, "text": " Do you know these movies?" }, { "start": 3647.48, "end": 3648.48, "text": " I know a lot of these movies." }, { "start": 3648.48, "end": 3649.48, "text": " You just made that up." }, { "start": 3649.48, "end": 3653.52, "text": " I guess I was three when that one came out." }, { "start": 3653.52, "end": 3656.1600000000003, "text": " Anyway, the dude's kind of been off the map for a while." }, { "start": 3656.1600000000003, "end": 3657.6400000000003, "text": " Hopefully he's still got it in him." }, { "start": 3657.6400000000003, "end": 3659.52, "text": " I mean, I think he'll be okay." }, { "start": 3659.52, "end": 3661.1600000000003, "text": " You can either write or you can't write." }, { "start": 3661.1600000000003, "end": 3662.1600000000003, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 3662.1600000000003, "end": 3663.1600000000003, "text": " Exactly." }, { "start": 3663.1600000000003, "end": 3664.1600000000003, "text": " So that's a good thing." }, { "start": 3664.1600000000003, "end": 3665.1600000000003, "text": " That's fair." }, { "start": 3665.1600000000003, "end": 3666.1600000000003, "text": " This is wonderful." }, { "start": 3666.16, "end": 3667.3199999999997, "text": " I got some really deep thoughts from Ellis Hamburger." }, { "start": 3667.3199999999997, "end": 3670.7999999999997, "text": " What they got to do is they got to, JJ and Lawrence, they got to get on YouTube and look" }, { "start": 3670.7999999999997, "end": 3674.3199999999997, "text": " up all those videos about like 10 ways to make the new Star Wars good." }, { "start": 3674.3199999999997, "end": 3677.72, "text": " And they got to do all those things." }, { "start": 3677.72, "end": 3681.24, "text": " I mean, isn't the first one in all of those things like murder George Lucas." }, { "start": 3681.24, "end": 3682.72, "text": " Kill Jar Jar." }, { "start": 3682.72, "end": 3683.72, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3683.72, "end": 3684.72, "text": " Blinded by lens flare." }, { "start": 3684.72, "end": 3685.72, "text": " No, I can't." }, { "start": 3685.72, "end": 3686.72, "text": " JJ's not doing it in lens flare anymore." }, { "start": 3686.72, "end": 3687.72, "text": " He called himself out for it." }, { "start": 3687.72, "end": 3688.72, "text": " Did he?" }, { "start": 3688.72, "end": 3689.72, "text": " He did." }, { "start": 3689.72, "end": 3690.72, "text": " That happened." }, { "start": 3690.72, "end": 3691.72, "text": " I love the lens flare." }, { "start": 3691.72, "end": 3692.72, "text": " And it's the same director of photography." }, { "start": 3692.72, "end": 3693.72, "text": " Same director of photography, yeah." }, { "start": 3693.72, "end": 3694.72, "text": " So I'm sure they're going to want to." }, { "start": 3694.72, "end": 3695.72, "text": " There's going to be so much lens flare." }, { "start": 3695.72, "end": 3698.08, "text": " And they got John Williams in the score, of course, which is always going to be great." }, { "start": 3698.08, "end": 3700.08, "text": " I mean, this is like all of the big deal people." }, { "start": 3700.08, "end": 3701.08, "text": " None of this is going to matter." }, { "start": 3701.08, "end": 3704.24, "text": " Like the big news that's going to come after this is like, we'll get the casting probably" }, { "start": 3704.24, "end": 3706.24, "text": " sometime next year, March-ish, April-ish." }, { "start": 3706.24, "end": 3709.48, "text": " We'll start hearing some things outside of what I think Benedict Cumberbatch is a part" }, { "start": 3709.48, "end": 3710.48, "text": " of it." }, { "start": 3710.48, "end": 3711.48, "text": " Maybe." }, { "start": 3711.48, "end": 3712.48, "text": " Sure." }, { "start": 3712.48, "end": 3713.48, "text": " I might be making that up." }, { "start": 3713.48, "end": 3714.48, "text": " He's in every movie." }, { "start": 3714.48, "end": 3715.48, "text": " He is." }, { "start": 3715.48, "end": 3716.48, "text": " He's like the new Jude Law where you're like, oh, Benedict Cumberbatch is in this." }, { "start": 3716.48, "end": 3718.3999999999996, "text": " You know what's always funny to me is that when the movie comes out, let's say we all" }, { "start": 3718.3999999999996, "end": 3722.64, "text": " think Benedict Cumberbatch is having a super hot time right now in theaters, right?" }, { "start": 3722.64, "end": 3723.7799999999997, "text": " He's in everything." }, { "start": 3723.78, "end": 3725.6400000000003, "text": " You know when he was in everything?" }, { "start": 3725.6400000000003, "end": 3729.1200000000003, "text": " Two years ago when they signed him for all these movies in a row." }, { "start": 3729.1200000000003, "end": 3730.4, "text": " That's how long these things have been in production." }, { "start": 3730.4, "end": 3731.4, "text": " That's true." }, { "start": 3731.4, "end": 3735.28, "text": " And that's what's crazy to me is it's almost like when you're looking at, well, this is," }, { "start": 3735.28, "end": 3736.28, "text": " I'm not going to make that stupid." }, { "start": 3736.28, "end": 3739.26, "text": " I was going to make a comparison about like when you see a star." }, { "start": 3739.26, "end": 3743.1200000000003, "text": " When you see a star, it's actually that star, what it used to look like because it doesn't" }, { "start": 3743.1200000000003, "end": 3744.1200000000003, "text": " look like that anymore." }, { "start": 3744.1200000000003, "end": 3745.1200000000003, "text": " That was stupid." }, { "start": 3745.1200000000003, "end": 3746.1200000000003, "text": " Wow." }, { "start": 3746.1200000000003, "end": 3747.1200000000003, "text": " Thank you." }, { "start": 3747.1200000000003, "end": 3748.1200000000003, "text": " Thank you." }, { "start": 3748.1200000000003, "end": 3749.1200000000003, "text": " This is the red dwarf acting." }, { "start": 3749.1200000000003, "end": 3750.1200000000003, "text": " You're getting a lot of like idea." }, { "start": 3750.1200000000003, "end": 3751.1200000000003, "text": " But that's what's crazy." }, { "start": 3751.1200000000003, "end": 3752.1200000000003, "text": " Metaphysical here." }, { "start": 3752.1200000000003, "end": 3753.1200000000003, "text": " I'm enjoying this." }, { "start": 3753.12, "end": 3754.12, "text": " I'm enjoying this." }, { "start": 3754.12, "end": 3756.7999999999997, "text": " His agent was going bonkers a year and a half, two years ago." }, { "start": 3756.7999999999997, "end": 3760.24, "text": " It's not like he's doing all these movies now." }, { "start": 3760.24, "end": 3764.66, "text": " These were all made a while ago and I bet everybody was talking about him back then" }, { "start": 3764.66, "end": 3766.7999999999997, "text": " and then he's in everything before you know it." }, { "start": 3766.7999999999997, "end": 3767.7999999999997, "text": " It's kind of true." }, { "start": 3767.7999999999997, "end": 3768.7999999999997, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3768.7999999999997, "end": 3770.22, "text": " He was like, you know what I do is Sherlock." }, { "start": 3770.22, "end": 3771.22, "text": " That's pretty good." }, { "start": 3771.22, "end": 3773.16, "text": " You should give me tons of movies and it worked." }, { "start": 3773.16, "end": 3774.16, "text": " Sherlock's awesome." }, { "start": 3774.16, "end": 3775.16, "text": " If you haven't seen it." }, { "start": 3775.16, "end": 3781.24, "text": " So for those who don't have the article or who they haven't read it, they've got the" }, { "start": 3781.24, "end": 3783.72, "text": " director of photography from Star Trek into darkness." }, { "start": 3783.72, "end": 3785.7599999999998, "text": " They've got the costume designer from Fight Club." }, { "start": 3785.7599999999998, "end": 3786.7599999999998, "text": " All right." }, { "start": 3786.7599999999998, "end": 3788.4399999999996, "text": " There's so much blood and guts and bruises." }, { "start": 3788.4399999999996, "end": 3789.9599999999996, "text": " I was gonna say, are there costumes?" }, { "start": 3789.9599999999996, "end": 3793.52, "text": " I feel like everyone's just shirtless in athletic shorts beating the crap out of each other." }, { "start": 3793.52, "end": 3794.52, "text": " Oh, in Fight Club." }, { "start": 3794.52, "end": 3795.52, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3795.52, "end": 3796.52, "text": " Are there costumes in Star Wars?" }, { "start": 3796.52, "end": 3797.52, "text": " I imagine they're all shirtless." }, { "start": 3797.52, "end": 3798.52, "text": " Here's a good one." }, { "start": 3798.52, "end": 3800, "text": " Like the blood designer I'd be all in on." }, { "start": 3800, "end": 3801, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3801, "end": 3803.9199999999996, "text": " For anybody who's into movies knows the production designer is very important." }, { "start": 3803.9199999999996, "end": 3806.6, "text": " They basically design all the sets, all the props and things like that." }, { "start": 3806.6, "end": 3810.16, "text": " They've got the dude from Avatar and Lincoln, which is good." }, { "start": 3810.16, "end": 3811.16, "text": " Sure." }, { "start": 3811.16, "end": 3817.56, "text": " They've got another production designer from Oblivion and Tron Legacy." }, { "start": 3817.56, "end": 3818.56, "text": " So cool is going to be shining." }, { "start": 3818.56, "end": 3819.8399999999997, "text": " We're getting into the weeds." }, { "start": 3819.8399999999997, "end": 3820.8399999999997, "text": " We now know the productions." }, { "start": 3820.8399999999997, "end": 3821.8399999999997, "text": " Oh, but we love the weeds." }, { "start": 3821.8399999999997, "end": 3824.68, "text": " We love the weeds, but this is getting like, okay, he did Oblivion." }, { "start": 3824.68, "end": 3826.92, "text": " It's going to be pretty in science fiction and futuristic." }, { "start": 3826.92, "end": 3827.92, "text": " Wait, okay." }, { "start": 3827.92, "end": 3828.92, "text": " Can we just be honest?" }, { "start": 3828.92, "end": 3830.68, "text": " This movie is definitely going to suck, right?" }, { "start": 3830.68, "end": 3831.68, "text": " It's just going to be awesome." }, { "start": 3831.68, "end": 3833.8399999999997, "text": " It's going to be amazing." }, { "start": 3833.8399999999997, "end": 3834.8399999999997, "text": " There's no way." }, { "start": 3834.8399999999997, "end": 3835.8399999999997, "text": " Why?" }, { "start": 3835.8399999999997, "end": 3836.8399999999997, "text": " You can't Star Trek." }, { "start": 3836.8399999999997, "end": 3838.3199999999997, "text": " You're saying you can't fulfill the expectations." }, { "start": 3838.3199999999997, "end": 3839.3199999999997, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 3839.3199999999997, "end": 3840.8399999999997, "text": " I think no one can make a good Star Wars movie." }, { "start": 3840.84, "end": 3841.84, "text": " That's my theory." }, { "start": 3841.84, "end": 3842.84, "text": " I don't know." }, { "start": 3842.84, "end": 3847.7200000000003, "text": " I think Star Wars is in this like Pantheon maybe, but it would be like making another" }, { "start": 3847.7200000000003, "end": 3848.7200000000003, "text": " Godfather movie." }, { "start": 3848.7200000000003, "end": 3850, "text": " Actually, no, they made a terrible Godfather." }, { "start": 3850, "end": 3852.6800000000003, "text": " If Godfather had lightsabers, then yes, that would be awesome." }, { "start": 3852.6800000000003, "end": 3857.36, "text": " But they like Star Trek, there's so much Star Trek that they could do it." }, { "start": 3857.36, "end": 3859.04, "text": " You can do different and do it well." }, { "start": 3859.04, "end": 3861.6000000000004, "text": " Like it's a big enough universe that there's places you can go." }, { "start": 3861.6000000000004, "end": 3863.08, "text": " The Star Wars universe is not that big." }, { "start": 3863.08, "end": 3864.08, "text": " The Star Wars universe." }, { "start": 3864.08, "end": 3865.08, "text": " Tons of games." }, { "start": 3865.08, "end": 3866.08, "text": " The canon of Star Wars." }, { "start": 3866.08, "end": 3867.08, "text": " The books, the themes on all that stuff." }, { "start": 3867.08, "end": 3869.2400000000002, "text": " But like Star Wars is still three movies." }, { "start": 3869.24, "end": 3871.9199999999996, "text": " Like you can talk about everything else, but Star Wars is five movies." }, { "start": 3871.9199999999996, "end": 3872.9199999999996, "text": " No, it's not." }, { "start": 3872.9199999999996, "end": 3873.9199999999996, "text": " It's three movies." }, { "start": 3873.9199999999996, "end": 3874.9199999999996, "text": " It is five." }, { "start": 3874.9199999999996, "end": 3875.9199999999996, "text": " Episodes two through six." }, { "start": 3875.9199999999996, "end": 3876.9199999999996, "text": " No." }, { "start": 3876.9199999999996, "end": 3877.9199999999996, "text": " They never made a one." }, { "start": 3877.9199999999996, "end": 3878.9199999999996, "text": " It's okay." }, { "start": 3878.9199999999996, "end": 3879.9199999999996, "text": " I forget." }, { "start": 3879.9199999999996, "end": 3880.9199999999996, "text": " One, two, and three are terrible." }, { "start": 3880.9199999999996, "end": 3881.9199999999996, "text": " I never saw it." }, { "start": 3881.9199999999996, "end": 3882.9199999999996, "text": " No." }, { "start": 3882.9199999999996, "end": 3883.9199999999996, "text": " Anything with Hayden Christensen in it is not a movie as far as I'm concerned." }, { "start": 3883.9199999999996, "end": 3884.9199999999996, "text": " Shattered glass." }, { "start": 3884.9199999999996, "end": 3885.9199999999996, "text": " It's like a- Done." }, { "start": 3885.9199999999996, "end": 3888.12, "text": " And that's the first one." }, { "start": 3888.12, "end": 3889.12, "text": " Just get out." }, { "start": 3889.12, "end": 3892.68, "text": " No, but so like I really don't think this movie has any chance of being any good." }, { "start": 3892.68, "end": 3894.24, "text": " And I think it's going to be so overwhelming." }, { "start": 3894.24, "end": 3895.24, "text": " They're going to have so much money." }, { "start": 3895.24, "end": 3898.06, "text": " They're going to have so much like canon they have to deal with, but also get away from," }, { "start": 3898.06, "end": 3900.44, "text": " but also deal with and like the expectations." }, { "start": 3900.44, "end": 3902.72, "text": " I just don't think I feel for JJ Abrams." }, { "start": 3902.72, "end": 3903.72, "text": " I think he's totally screwed." }, { "start": 3903.72, "end": 3906.2799999999997, "text": " I just can't wait for the like, we're like, we do one movie with no lightsabers." }, { "start": 3906.2799999999997, "end": 3907.2799999999997, "text": " Not even exist." }, { "start": 3907.2799999999997, "end": 3908.2799999999997, "text": " It'd be amazing." }, { "start": 3908.2799999999997, "end": 3910, "text": " You'd be just change every single character." }, { "start": 3910, "end": 3914.04, "text": " They're like, this is called Star Wars and it's actually about, you know, today it's" }, { "start": 3914.04, "end": 3916.68, "text": " a rom com with Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Zoe." }, { "start": 3916.68, "end": 3919.08, "text": " It's a 500 days of summer sequel." }, { "start": 3919.08, "end": 3920.08, "text": " It's called Star Wars." }, { "start": 3920.08, "end": 3921.48, "text": " Have you read any of the books, the Star Wars books?" }, { "start": 3921.48, "end": 3922.66, "text": " It's been a long time." }, { "start": 3922.66, "end": 3924.32, "text": " Because there are a lot that people considered." }, { "start": 3924.32, "end": 3926.7599999999998, "text": " There are a few of them that people consider to be really good." }, { "start": 3926.7599999999998, "end": 3927.7599999999998, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 3927.76, "end": 3929.96, "text": " I know the one that was like always big was shadows of the empire." }, { "start": 3929.96, "end": 3934.1200000000003, "text": " They made that into a video game, a great video game back in the days when like controllers" }, { "start": 3934.1200000000003, "end": 3937.48, "text": " had three prongs, the D pad, the joystick, the buds." }, { "start": 3937.48, "end": 3938.48, "text": " You've read into the 64 controllers." }, { "start": 3938.48, "end": 3939.48, "text": " It's the best thing ever." }, { "start": 3939.48, "end": 3943.0200000000004, "text": " Wait, is there a subtitle for episode seven yet or is it just called Star Wars episode" }, { "start": 3943.0200000000004, "end": 3944.0200000000004, "text": " seven so far?" }, { "start": 3944.0200000000004, "end": 3945.0200000000004, "text": " I think it's just episode seven." }, { "start": 3945.0200000000004, "end": 3946.0200000000004, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 3946.0200000000004, "end": 3949.2400000000002, "text": " Which they have to write it now because they now have new writers." }, { "start": 3949.2400000000002, "end": 3952.36, "text": " So presumably whatever they've been doing, they're like, eh, we're going to try this" }, { "start": 3952.36, "end": 3953.36, "text": " again." }, { "start": 3953.36, "end": 3955.6400000000003, "text": " And this is, and then Damon Lindelof is going to come in at the last minute and just ruin" }, { "start": 3955.64, "end": 3957.92, "text": " everything, and then there we're going to be." }, { "start": 3957.92, "end": 3958.92, "text": " I can't believe this is my theory." }, { "start": 3958.92, "end": 3959.92, "text": " It's going to be bad." }, { "start": 3959.92, "end": 3960.92, "text": " It's going to be bad." }, { "start": 3960.92, "end": 3961.92, "text": " It's going to be a bad movie." }, { "start": 3961.92, "end": 3963.52, "text": " Man, you're just hating all over the place today." }, { "start": 3963.52, "end": 3964.92, "text": " No, I like Damon Lindelof fine." }, { "start": 3964.92, "end": 3967.16, "text": " I just think Prometheus was a bad movie." }, { "start": 3967.16, "end": 3969.56, "text": " So now I get to make fun of him for the rest of my life." }, { "start": 3969.56, "end": 3970.56, "text": " Those are the rules." }, { "start": 3970.56, "end": 3974.64, "text": " If you make a bad movie that I go see at midnight the night it comes out and it sucks, I get" }, { "start": 3974.64, "end": 3975.64, "text": " to make fun of you for the rest of my life." }, { "start": 3975.64, "end": 3978.3599999999997, "text": " If we're talking about creative works that get published at midnight and you have to" }, { "start": 3978.3599999999997, "end": 3982.2999999999997, "text": " go take your time to see it, I have a few reviews from Windows phones that I've seen" }, { "start": 3982.2999999999997, "end": 3983.72, "text": " you do that I really want to hate you forever for." }, { "start": 3983.72, "end": 3984.72, "text": " I mean, that's fine." }, { "start": 3984.72, "end": 3986.8399999999997, "text": " I'm going to make fun of me for the rest of my life as long as I get to do it to Damon" }, { "start": 3986.8399999999997, "end": 3987.8399999999997, "text": " Lindelof." }, { "start": 3987.8399999999997, "end": 3988.8399999999997, "text": " David, does it feel good in the hand?" }, { "start": 3988.8399999999997, "end": 3989.8399999999997, "text": " That's what I want to know." }, { "start": 3989.8399999999997, "end": 3992.8399999999997, "text": " It feels terrible in the hand." }, { "start": 3992.8399999999997, "end": 3993.8399999999997, "text": " Just everybody should know that." }, { "start": 3993.8399999999997, "end": 3996.04, "text": " Is there anything else we want to bring up today?" }, { "start": 3996.04, "end": 3997.04, "text": " We should talk about Netflix." }, { "start": 3997.04, "end": 3998.04, "text": " Let's talk about Netflix." }, { "start": 3998.04, "end": 4000, "text": " Netflix is doing some crazy things." }, { "start": 4000, "end": 4002.52, "text": " It is now bigger than HBO." }, { "start": 4002.52, "end": 4003.52, "text": " Which is massive." }, { "start": 4003.52, "end": 4006.2799999999997, "text": " What is it, 30 million subscribers they have now?" }, { "start": 4006.2799999999997, "end": 4007.2799999999997, "text": " I think so." }, { "start": 4007.2799999999997, "end": 4008.2799999999997, "text": " Something like that." }, { "start": 4008.2799999999997, "end": 4009.2799999999997, "text": " I think that's the number." }, { "start": 4009.2799999999997, "end": 4012.64, "text": " 31.1 million US subscribers." }, { "start": 4012.64, "end": 4014.2, "text": " That's a crazy number." }, { "start": 4014.2, "end": 4019.56, "text": " And like, nobody talks about Netflix, which is weird." }, { "start": 4019.56, "end": 4021.16, "text": " Their stock did this." }, { "start": 4021.16, "end": 4022.16, "text": " Nobody talks about Netflix." }, { "start": 4022.16, "end": 4026.6, "text": " But as like a huge, crazy, amazing company, they get a lot of credit for the shows they" }, { "start": 4026.6, "end": 4027.6, "text": " make and stuff." }, { "start": 4027.6, "end": 4029.8399999999997, "text": " But as a company, nobody really talks about them that much." }, { "start": 4029.8399999999997, "end": 4032.4399999999996, "text": " But their stock is up." }, { "start": 4032.4399999999996, "end": 4033.4399999999996, "text": " It's a record." }, { "start": 4033.4399999999996, "end": 4034.4399999999996, "text": " You know what I love about this graph?" }, { "start": 4034.4399999999996, "end": 4036.96, "text": " They did a billion dollars in revenue last quarter." }, { "start": 4036.96, "end": 4040.56, "text": " So if you look at the stock graph, that little line chart, I love this." }, { "start": 4040.56, "end": 4041.56, "text": " You know why?" }, { "start": 4041.56, "end": 4042.56, "text": " Because you can see exactly when Quickster was announced." }, { "start": 4042.56, "end": 4043.56, "text": " Yeah, there should just be a line that's like, oh, DVDs." }, { "start": 4043.56, "end": 4045.36, "text": " We don't know what we're doing here." }, { "start": 4045.36, "end": 4046.96, "text": " Let's just give it a new name." }, { "start": 4046.96, "end": 4049.96, "text": " Where did Quickster come from?" }, { "start": 4049.96, "end": 4052.2799999999997, "text": " But all the same, they moved past that." }, { "start": 4052.2799999999997, "end": 4057.32, "text": " Sorandos, one of the chief executive officers, not the CEO, he's one of the chief officers." }, { "start": 4057.32, "end": 4059.58, "text": " Obviously Reed Hastings, they pulled this off." }, { "start": 4059.58, "end": 4060.58, "text": " Good for them." }, { "start": 4060.58, "end": 4061.58, "text": " Reed Hastings, new CEO of Microsoft." }, { "start": 4061.58, "end": 4062.58, "text": " You know what's crazy to me about Netflix is that-" }, { "start": 4062.58, "end": 4063.58, "text": " Do they still have DVD subscribers?" }, { "start": 4063.58, "end": 4064.58, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4064.58, "end": 4065.58, "text": " Like 12 of them, I think." }, { "start": 4065.58, "end": 4066.58, "text": " My parents are like the only ones left." }, { "start": 4066.58, "end": 4075.68, "text": " What's amazing to me is that, okay, so true or false, in 20 years, people only pay for" }, { "start": 4075.68, "end": 4078.16, "text": " the content that they want." }, { "start": 4078.16, "end": 4079.16, "text": " A la carte, in other words." }, { "start": 4079.16, "end": 4080.16, "text": " False." }, { "start": 4080.16, "end": 4081.16, "text": " 20 years?" }, { "start": 4081.16, "end": 4082.16, "text": " Is that too soon?" }, { "start": 4082.16, "end": 4083.16, "text": " Never." }, { "start": 4083.16, "end": 4084.16, "text": " It's never going to happen." }, { "start": 4084.16, "end": 4085.16, "text": " Never?" }, { "start": 4085.16, "end": 4086.16, "text": " As long as we have cable companies?" }, { "start": 4086.16, "end": 4087.16, "text": " No." }, { "start": 4087.16, "end": 4088.16, "text": " That's not-" }, { "start": 4088.16, "end": 4089.16, "text": " Well, I think Netflix gets a lot of credit for-" }, { "start": 4089.16, "end": 4091.44, "text": " Disrupting the cable industry, but they're doing the same thing." }, { "start": 4091.44, "end": 4095.4, "text": " That's what startups try and do is decouple these things that you don't need from the" }, { "start": 4095.4, "end": 4099.84, "text": " things that you want and try and streamline this experience." }, { "start": 4099.84, "end": 4102.46, "text": " Does that make sense that this stuff is bundled?" }, { "start": 4102.46, "end": 4105.9400000000005, "text": " In some regards, it did a while ago." }, { "start": 4105.9400000000005, "end": 4111.16, "text": " It's a lot harder to, let's say, start a new network if nobody has access to it for free." }, { "start": 4111.16, "end": 4116.3, "text": " If you look at AMC, cable subscribers, when they watched AMC, they helped AMC become a" }, { "start": 4116.3, "end": 4119, "text": " powerhouse because they watched it." }, { "start": 4119, "end": 4123.4800000000005, "text": " It's not like you can just free trial something online, except you can in some cases." }, { "start": 4123.4800000000005, "end": 4124.4800000000005, "text": " Here's the thing." }, { "start": 4124.48, "end": 4127.36, "text": " We had talked to, actually, Neil, I did an interview with someone." }, { "start": 4127.36, "end": 4130.959999999999, "text": " We'll have to later this month, or next month, rather." }, { "start": 4130.959999999999, "end": 4133.799999999999, "text": " The thing is, the cable companies, when they started out in trying to build these networks," }, { "start": 4133.799999999999, "end": 4134.799999999999, "text": " they needed channels." }, { "start": 4134.799999999999, "end": 4137.339999999999, "text": " They came to channels saying, we need your help." }, { "start": 4137.339999999999, "end": 4139.5599999999995, "text": " At some point, the tables turned." }, { "start": 4139.5599999999995, "end": 4144.339999999999, "text": " You have someone like a USA and it's like, look, I'll put my channel on here, but you've" }, { "start": 4144.339999999999, "end": 4145.839999999999, "text": " got to get Bravo on also." }, { "start": 4145.839999999999, "end": 4147.919999999999, "text": " I know no one's watching it, but you just got to trust me." }, { "start": 4147.919999999999, "end": 4151.16, "text": " The bundle came to exist in the networks and channels." }, { "start": 4151.16, "end": 4152.16, "text": " They have the power to do that." }, { "start": 4152.16, "end": 4156.92, "text": " We're not going to get rid of that too, because they need the extra money to get ESPN to an" }, { "start": 4156.92, "end": 4159.32, "text": " ESPN college, an ESPN cricket." }, { "start": 4159.32, "end": 4160.32, "text": " Which almost definitely exists." }, { "start": 4160.32, "end": 4161.32, "text": " It will exist one day." }, { "start": 4161.32, "end": 4166.639999999999, "text": " The thing is, I think, and people continue to do studies and look into this." }, { "start": 4166.639999999999, "end": 4171.68, "text": " Ultimately, if you wanted, let's say, if you just wanted ESPN, if you're like, screw the" }, { "start": 4171.68, "end": 4175.44, "text": " rest of this, I just want ESPN, that would probably be cheaper than your current cable" }, { "start": 4175.44, "end": 4176.44, "text": " bill." }, { "start": 4176.44, "end": 4182.12, "text": " If you're like, I want ESPN and HBO and the broadcast networks and USA Today and Jersey" }, { "start": 4182.12, "end": 4185.639999999999, "text": " Shore reruns on MTV, that's already probably more expensive than your cable bill." }, { "start": 4185.639999999999, "end": 4189.719999999999, "text": " You're saying it's advantageous to wholesale it as the consumer." }, { "start": 4189.719999999999, "end": 4192.2, "text": " You're saying in a way it's better for the consumer the way that it is right now." }, { "start": 4192.2, "end": 4193.2, "text": " It depends." }, { "start": 4193.2, "end": 4194.2, "text": " That's something I hadn't considered." }, { "start": 4194.2, "end": 4195.2, "text": " As long as I have what I hope." }, { "start": 4195.2, "end": 4197.12, "text": " If you go to the History Channel, I'm going to give a discount on ESPN." }, { "start": 4197.12, "end": 4198.12, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 4198.12, "end": 4199.12, "text": " That's the thing." }, { "start": 4199.12, "end": 4203.4, "text": " Ultimately, I think what might happen is you might start to see the really popular networks" }, { "start": 4203.4, "end": 4208.28, "text": " like ESPN and HBO start to go a la carte, and we're seeing bits and pieces of that from" }, { "start": 4208.28, "end": 4210.32, "text": " some of these companies." }, { "start": 4210.32, "end": 4213.16, "text": " The History Channel is never going to go a la carte because people wouldn't pay for the" }, { "start": 4213.16, "end": 4215.44, "text": " History Channel, but people want to watch the History Channel." }, { "start": 4215.44, "end": 4216.44, "text": " I say that, but-" }, { "start": 4216.44, "end": 4217.44, "text": " Not enough people would pay-" }, { "start": 4217.44, "end": 4218.44, "text": " We do have Game of Thrones with Vikings now." }, { "start": 4218.44, "end": 4219.639999999999, "text": " But not enough people would pay-" }, { "start": 4219.639999999999, "end": 4220.639999999999, "text": " That's awesome." }, { "start": 4220.639999999999, "end": 4221.639999999999, "text": " It's fair." }, { "start": 4221.639999999999, "end": 4225.759999999999, "text": " But not enough people would pay for it to keep it around in the way that it exists now." }, { "start": 4225.759999999999, "end": 4230.2, "text": " I think it's ultimately better, and I think people watch more TV and aimlessly channel" }, { "start": 4230.2, "end": 4232.12, "text": " surf a lot more than they realize." }, { "start": 4232.12, "end": 4233.12, "text": " I certainly do." }, { "start": 4233.12, "end": 4236.72, "text": " I think if I were to guess what I watch, it would probably be six channels." }, { "start": 4236.72, "end": 4239.76, "text": " Then if I were to map what I actually watch, it would probably be 60 channels." }, { "start": 4239.76, "end": 4240.76, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 4240.76, "end": 4241.76, "text": " No, so I-" }, { "start": 4241.76, "end": 4244.16, "text": " By the time you get to there, it's just not... It's never going to make sense to pay a" }, { "start": 4244.16, "end": 4245.16, "text": " la carte for that." }, { "start": 4245.16, "end": 4246.44, "text": " I am so scared to get cable, by the way." }, { "start": 4246.44, "end": 4247.44, "text": " That reminds me." }, { "start": 4247.44, "end": 4248.44, "text": " I am so scared to get it." }, { "start": 4248.44, "end": 4249.44, "text": " I love having cable." }, { "start": 4249.44, "end": 4250.44, "text": " I can't." }, { "start": 4250.44, "end": 4251.44, "text": " My life will be over." }, { "start": 4251.44, "end": 4252.44, "text": " I've had cable for a month now, and it is the best." }, { "start": 4252.44, "end": 4253.44, "text": " It's so great." }, { "start": 4253.44, "end": 4254.44, "text": " I go on vacation." }, { "start": 4254.44, "end": 4255.44, "text": " Hotels have cable." }, { "start": 4255.44, "end": 4256.44, "text": " I forget to go to the beach." }, { "start": 4256.44, "end": 4257.44, "text": " I am watching House Hunters." }, { "start": 4257.44, "end": 4258.44, "text": " Why am I watching House?" }, { "start": 4258.44, "end": 4259.44, "text": " It is so addicting." }, { "start": 4259.44, "end": 4260.5599999999995, "text": " Who pays this much?" }, { "start": 4260.56, "end": 4264.4400000000005, "text": " When you're a 17-year-old college student in France on a freaking summer abroad, and" }, { "start": 4264.4400000000005, "end": 4265.4400000000005, "text": " you're like, I want to buy a place." }, { "start": 4265.4400000000005, "end": 4268.080000000001, "text": " Where do you get that money?" }, { "start": 4268.080000000001, "end": 4269.080000000001, "text": " That's how it's addicting." }, { "start": 4269.080000000001, "end": 4270.080000000001, "text": " Fair." }, { "start": 4270.080000000001, "end": 4274.52, "text": " No, I think the real future of cable is what Netflix is doing, essentially, which is to" }, { "start": 4274.52, "end": 4278.400000000001, "text": " say you pay us one price, and you get it everywhere." }, { "start": 4278.400000000001, "end": 4283.64, "text": " It's eventually going to be your cable won't just be on your TV at home, or you have to" }, { "start": 4283.64, "end": 4288.88, "text": " super clunky stream it through a Slingbox to an Apple TV to a Roku to something else." }, { "start": 4288.88, "end": 4290.320000000001, "text": " You'll just pay for it and get it everywhere." }, { "start": 4290.32, "end": 4297.719999999999, "text": " When ESPN is doing that, having one, I pay $110 for cable a month, which is ridiculous." }, { "start": 4297.719999999999, "end": 4302.2, "text": " But it's also like, now I can watch ESPN anywhere I am from any browser at any time." }, { "start": 4302.2, "end": 4304, "text": " All I have to do is log in, and it's the best." }, { "start": 4304, "end": 4305, "text": " That's what Netflix is." }, { "start": 4305, "end": 4310.12, "text": " That's how Netflix got where it is, is by saying, we pay us $8 a month, and you can" }, { "start": 4310.12, "end": 4312.7, "text": " watch everything everywhere all the time." }, { "start": 4312.7, "end": 4316.5199999999995, "text": " That's the easiest argument to make ever." }, { "start": 4316.5199999999995, "end": 4317.96, "text": " Other people are going to see that coming." }, { "start": 4317.96, "end": 4322.6, "text": " As Netflix gets bigger and starts doing more original programming, companies like ESPN" }, { "start": 4322.6, "end": 4325.78, "text": " are going to start to attack from the opposite point, where they're like, we have the programming," }, { "start": 4325.78, "end": 4327.44, "text": " now we're going to give you the it's everywhere." }, { "start": 4327.44, "end": 4331.76, "text": " I think what HBO is, HBO makes more money staying bundled and not pissing off the knower," }, { "start": 4331.76, "end": 4332.76, "text": " because I get that." }, { "start": 4332.76, "end": 4337.84, "text": " I think every old channel is going to, or premium, they get money from them." }, { "start": 4337.84, "end": 4340.64, "text": " You pay extra, but you have to pay for cable as well." }, { "start": 4340.64, "end": 4343.12, "text": " You can't just say, I want over the air." }, { "start": 4343.12, "end": 4344.8, "text": " That's the reason they're not going to go so low." }, { "start": 4344.8, "end": 4345.96, "text": " Right, because they get money out of it." }, { "start": 4345.96, "end": 4347.24, "text": " It's a better economic deal." }, { "start": 4347.24, "end": 4351.08, "text": " If you're a new channel, though, or a new network, you do think of this digital first" }, { "start": 4351.08, "end": 4352.08, "text": " tragedy." }, { "start": 4352.08, "end": 4353.08, "text": " You think of this a la carte." }, { "start": 4353.08, "end": 4357.32, "text": " There are channels I didn't realize existed, but Hulu tells me they exist." }, { "start": 4357.32, "end": 4359.84, "text": " They have videos there, and they're advertising there." }, { "start": 4359.84, "end": 4362.679999999999, "text": " I think these channels, the future, they're not going to be bundled, because they don't" }, { "start": 4362.679999999999, "end": 4363.76, "text": " have to worry about that business model." }, { "start": 4363.76, "end": 4365.719999999999, "text": " You've never had to be able to lean on that." }, { "start": 4365.719999999999, "end": 4372.04, "text": " But you pay for Hulu to get it anywhere other than in your browser with only a few things." }, { "start": 4372.04, "end": 4373.62, "text": " You pay for Hulu." }, { "start": 4373.62, "end": 4375.679999999999, "text": " Those channels are bundled to that." }, { "start": 4375.679999999999, "end": 4376.679999999999, "text": " It's lose-lose." }, { "start": 4376.68, "end": 4377.68, "text": " Fair enough." }, { "start": 4377.68, "end": 4379.240000000001, "text": " All right, well, so we should go." }, { "start": 4379.240000000001, "end": 4380.240000000001, "text": " Let's wrap this." }, { "start": 4380.240000000001, "end": 4382.08, "text": " And leave these poor people alone." }, { "start": 4382.08, "end": 4383.08, "text": " We're very sorry." }, { "start": 4383.08, "end": 4384.280000000001, "text": " We love you all." }, { "start": 4384.280000000001, "end": 4385.280000000001, "text": " They're watching our video." }, { "start": 4385.280000000001, "end": 4386.280000000001, "text": " We're very sorry." }, { "start": 4386.280000000001, "end": 4387.280000000001, "text": " Do not." }, { "start": 4387.280000000001, "end": 4388.280000000001, "text": " Do not." }, { "start": 4388.280000000001, "end": 4389.280000000001, "text": " But so we have some housekeeping." }, { "start": 4389.280000000001, "end": 4392.8, "text": " So first of all, this is Polygon's first birthday, which is ridiculous." }, { "start": 4392.8, "end": 4394.96, "text": " I feel like Polygon has been around my entire life." }, { "start": 4394.96, "end": 4396.8, "text": " I don't remember the world before Polygon." }, { "start": 4396.8, "end": 4399.84, "text": " You mean like those six months you were hired before Polygon launched?" }, { "start": 4399.84, "end": 4402.04, "text": " Yeah, it was like a day and a half." }, { "start": 4402.04, "end": 4403.04, "text": " Yeah, okay." }, { "start": 4403.04, "end": 4404.04, "text": " Pretty much." }, { "start": 4404.04, "end": 4406.240000000001, "text": " And next week is a big week for us." }, { "start": 4406.24, "end": 4407.24, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 4407.24, "end": 4408.24, "text": " And you know more about this than I do." }, { "start": 4408.24, "end": 4409.5599999999995, "text": " Well, there's not much more to say." }, { "start": 4409.5599999999995, "end": 4412.7, "text": " Next week is Vergecast 100, which is a huge deal." }, { "start": 4412.7, "end": 4414.5199999999995, "text": " It's our 100th Vergecast, just to be super clear." }, { "start": 4414.5199999999995, "end": 4415.5199999999995, "text": " 100th Vergecast." }, { "start": 4415.5199999999995, "end": 4416.5199999999995, "text": " We didn't skip anything." }, { "start": 4416.5199999999995, "end": 4419.179999999999, "text": " We're doing 100 Vergecasts all in one day." }, { "start": 4419.179999999999, "end": 4421.679999999999, "text": " It is a power hour of Vergecasts." }, { "start": 4421.679999999999, "end": 4425.04, "text": " So much hair checking, so many microphones, just dropping it." }, { "start": 4425.04, "end": 4426.679999999999, "text": " No, it's our 100th episode." }, { "start": 4426.679999999999, "end": 4427.679999999999, "text": " That's a cool deal." }, { "start": 4427.679999999999, "end": 4431.599999999999, "text": " It also happens to be the same day as our anniversary, our two-year anniversary." }, { "start": 4431.599999999999, "end": 4432.599999999999, "text": " So we're a little excited." }, { "start": 4432.599999999999, "end": 4434.32, "text": " We're going to do a couple of special things." }, { "start": 4434.32, "end": 4435.32, "text": " You'll see." }, { "start": 4435.32, "end": 4436.32, "text": " We'll be back." }, { "start": 4436.32, "end": 4437.32, "text": " Neal, I'll be back." }, { "start": 4437.32, "end": 4439.759999999999, "text": " They were out just wanting a day off." }, { "start": 4439.759999999999, "end": 4440.759999999999, "text": " Naked on a beach somewhere." }, { "start": 4440.759999999999, "end": 4441.759999999999, "text": " Naked on a beach." }, { "start": 4441.759999999999, "end": 4444.48, "text": " Ever since Josh brought that up, I just assumed that Josh is naked on a beach somewhere." }, { "start": 4444.48, "end": 4446.88, "text": " So now Josh is actually out killing a family, like he always promised." }, { "start": 4446.88, "end": 4447.88, "text": " Well, sure." }, { "start": 4447.88, "end": 4450.32, "text": " So we'll have the carcasses next week." }, { "start": 4450.32, "end": 4451.32, "text": " It's a special deal." }, { "start": 4451.32, "end": 4452.32, "text": " It's a special Vergecast." }, { "start": 4452.32, "end": 4453.32, "text": " That's fair." }, { "start": 4453.32, "end": 4454.32, "text": " He finally makes good." }, { "start": 4454.32, "end": 4457.759999999999, "text": " He's going to bring the family here and prove to everyone what's going on." }, { "start": 4457.759999999999, "end": 4459.5599999999995, "text": " No, absolutely." }, { "start": 4459.5599999999995, "end": 4460.5599999999995, "text": " Anyway." }, { "start": 4460.5599999999995, "end": 4461.5599999999995, "text": " So that is the Vergecast." }, { "start": 4461.5599999999995, "end": 4462.5599999999995, "text": " That's the Vergecast." }, { "start": 4462.5599999999995, "end": 4463.5599999999995, "text": " Unfortunately." }, { "start": 4463.56, "end": 4467.56, "text": " If you can email us and tell us how terrible everything is about us." }, { "start": 4467.56, "end": 4468.56, "text": " And we will." }, { "start": 4468.56, "end": 4469.56, "text": " Especially Chris Ziegler." }, { "start": 4469.56, "end": 4470.56, "text": " We will." }, { "start": 4470.56, "end": 4472.6, "text": " If you hate Chris Ziegler, email us at VergecastatheVerge.com." }, { "start": 4472.6, "end": 4476.96, "text": " I'm piercedavid on Twitter, a fact for which I am deeply, deeply sorry." }, { "start": 4476.96, "end": 4480.240000000001, "text": " Ellis is at hamburger, the best thing that has ever happened to Twitter." }, { "start": 4480.240000000001, "end": 4483.360000000001, "text": " And Ross is ono roscoe for reasons beyond all of us." }, { "start": 4483.360000000001, "end": 4484.360000000001, "text": " No E." }, { "start": 4484.360000000001, "end": 4485.360000000001, "text": " And I'm not sorry at all." }, { "start": 4485.360000000001, "end": 4486.360000000001, "text": " No E." }, { "start": 4486.360000000001, "end": 4487.360000000001, "text": " Is there somebody with an E?" }, { "start": 4487.360000000001, "end": 4488.360000000001, "text": " Can you get the E and just be like, hey, just kidding on the other ono roscoe." }, { "start": 4488.360000000001, "end": 4489.360000000001, "text": " Someone got it for me and then just redirects." }, { "start": 4489.360000000001, "end": 4490.360000000001, "text": " That's so nice." }, { "start": 4490.360000000001, "end": 4492.4400000000005, "text": " Whoever that is, just tell me because I just want to thank you." }, { "start": 4492.4400000000005, "end": 4493.4400000000005, "text": " Good people." }, { "start": 4493.44, "end": 4495.24, "text": " I'm not going to be on the internet." }, { "start": 4495.24, "end": 4496.44, "text": " And that's it." }, { "start": 4496.44, "end": 4501.4, "text": " And we wish the very, very best to you and your family unless Josh is out killing you" }, { "start": 4501.4, "end": 4503.04, "text": " right now, in which case we're very sorry." }, { "start": 4503.04, "end": 4524.04, "text": " Paul." } ]

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{ "start": 490.44, "end": 493.59999999999997, "text": " And there's stuff coming for the iPad too, because that's kind of what I want to do," }, { "start": 493.59999999999997, "end": 497.76, "text": " is sit and just be Mr. Security Guard and just monitor my world." }, { "start": 497.76, "end": 498.76, "text": " Exactly." }, { "start": 498.76, "end": 505, "text": " So our roadmap is iPhone, then iPad, Android, and of course it'll be web enabled so you" }, { "start": 505, "end": 507.32, "text": " can access the web at any time." }, { "start": 507.32, "end": 512.4399999999999, "text": " In that, our plan is to get through all that before launch and from there just keep developing." }, { "start": 512.4399999999999, "end": 513.4399999999999, "text": " Cool." }, { "start": 513.4399999999999, "end": 514.4399999999999, "text": " And so where do you..." }, { "start": 514.4399999999999, "end": 517.48, "text": " You mentioned the app will be better and different by the time it comes out." }, { "start": 517.48, "end": 518.72, "text": " What are you guys thinking about now?" }, { "start": 518.72, "end": 522.64, "text": " Because once you put all the sensors in this thing and stick it on the table, there's a" }, { "start": 522.64, "end": 523.92, "text": " lot of stuff it could do, right?" }, { "start": 523.92, "end": 526.36, "text": " So what else are you guys thinking about?" }, { "start": 526.36, "end": 530.96, "text": " What's really going into this in the heart and soul are the computer vision and the algorithms" }, { "start": 530.96, "end": 535.08, "text": " we're developing to learn about your behaviors." }, { "start": 535.08, "end": 538.52, "text": " And those, because it's all done in the cloud, it'll keep getting smarter and smarter over" }, { "start": 538.52, "end": 539.52, "text": " time." }, { "start": 539.52, "end": 544.02, "text": " So even if you have the device day one, it's getting smarter both by learning about you" }, { "start": 544.02, "end": 547.72, "text": " over the first few weeks to learn your patterns, but it's also getting smarter because we're" }, { "start": 547.72, "end": 550.4, "text": " learning about everyone, how people operate in general." }, { "start": 550.4, "end": 555.5600000000001, "text": " So learning about the community and how people operate, we can make our algorithm smarter" }, { "start": 555.56, "end": 559.04, "text": " to know what's normal and what's not and to be able to send you better and better alerts" }, { "start": 559.04, "end": 563.76, "text": " because if you have ADT or another security system, their false alarm rate is 99%." }, { "start": 563.76, "end": 566.0799999999999, "text": " Because they just go like, oh crap, the alarm went off." }, { "start": 566.0799999999999, "end": 567.0799999999999, "text": " We have no idea why, but the alarm went off." }, { "start": 567.0799999999999, "end": 568.0799999999999, "text": " No idea why." }, { "start": 568.0799999999999, "end": 572.4799999999999, "text": " So 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654.76, "text": " their environment, the temperature, the humidity in their environment." }, { "start": 654.76, "end": 659.44, "text": " And also, if you have a babysitter, are they doing appropriate things, like checking on" }, { "start": 659.44, "end": 660.44, "text": " at work?" }, { "start": 660.44, "end": 665.9200000000001, "text": " So safety and security for us is not just about one thing, about putting sensors around" }, { "start": 665.92, "end": 666.92, "text": " the house." }, { "start": 666.92, "end": 673.12, "text": " It's about being more connected to that physical place in a very easy and almost fun way." }, { "start": 673.12, "end": 677.16, "text": " And this is something you could convince your 96-year-old grandfather to actually plug in" }, { "start": 677.16, "end": 678.16, "text": " and let it work." }, { "start": 678.16, "end": 679.16, "text": " Oh, totally." }, { "start": 679.16, "end": 680.16, "text": " Absolutely." }, { "start": 680.16, "end": 681.8, "text": " And my 96-year-old grandfather is on Facebook, and he could probably install this himself." }, { "start": 681.8, "end": 682.8, "text": " Wow." }, { "start": 682.8, "end": 683.8, "text": " Your 96-year-old grandfather is on Facebook?" }, { "start": 683.8, "end": 685.4, "text": " He was on Facebook before me." }, { "start": 685.4, "end": 686.4, "text": " That is..." }, { "start": 686.4, "end": 687.4, "text": " Totally." }, { "start": 687.4, "end": 688.4, "text": " I'm very impressed with this man." }, { "start": 688.4, "end": 689.4, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 689.4, "end": 690.4, "text": " He's awesome." }, { "start": 690.4, "end": 691.8, "text": " So this is coming out for crowdfunding this week." }, { "start": 691.8, "end": 695.52, "text": " This is coming out for crowdfunding on Indiegogo." }, { "start": 695.52, "end": 696.52, "text": " And..." }, { "start": 696.52, "end": 697.9, "text": " How much is it gonna cost when it comes out?" }, { "start": 697.9, "end": 703.12, "text": " It's gonna cost between $149 and $199, depending on how quickly people jump on there." }, { "start": 703.12, "end": 704.12, "text": " Fair enough." }, { "start": 704.12, "end": 707.12, "text": " And is that about the price you're going for for the retail PC?" }, { "start": 707.12, "end": 708.12, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 708.12, "end": 711, "text": " The retail price will be about $199." }, { "start": 711, "end": 713.3199999999999, "text": " And as I said, the app's free." }, { "start": 713.3199999999999, "end": 715, "text": " The basic service is free." }, { "start": 715, "end": 718.6, "text": " Connectivity, alerts, everything, backups." }, { "start": 718.6, "end": 721.4, "text": " And this kind of thing has never been done before." }, { "start": 721.4, "end": 727.56, "text": " And so what excites us the most is the ability to give people access and security that haven't" }, { "start": 727.56, "end": 728.56, "text": " had it." }, { "start": 728.56, "end": 732.3199999999999, "text": " 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756.04, "text": " I mean, that's unfair." }, { "start": 756.04, "end": 764.78, "text": " So we want to democratize security, make it available for anyone, and tell the big companies" }, { "start": 764.78, "end": 770.8, "text": " that their way of doing things is not needed, their way of doing things doesn't work, and" }, { "start": 770.8, "end": 772, "text": " that this is a new approach." }, { "start": 772, "end": 773, "text": " Cool." }, { "start": 773, "end": 776.24, "text": " And I don't have to convince my landlord to let me drill into the wall to stick something" }, { "start": 776.24, "end": 777.24, "text": " up there." }, { "start": 777.24, "end": 778.24, "text": " But that's the whole point of the wall." }, { "start": 778.24, "end": 780.6800000000001, "text": " You take it, you buy it, yeah, you put it on the table." }, { "start": 780.6800000000001, "end": 783.76, "text": " You can move it from room to room if you want, or you can take it, obviously take it with" }, { "start": 783.76, "end": 786.28, "text": " you if you move from one house to one apartment to another." }, { "start": 786.28, "end": 787.28, "text": " Yeah, that's awesome." }, { "start": 787.28, "end": 788.28, "text": " Cool." }, { "start": 788.28, "end": 789.28, "text": " Well, Adam, thank you so much." }, { "start": 789.28, "end": 790.28, "text": " Hey, thanks so much for having me." }, { "start": 790.28, "end": 791.28, "text": " Really appreciate it." }, { "start": 791.28, "end": 792.28, "text": " I got to get one of these." }, { "start": 792.28, "end": 793.28, "text": " Absolutely." }, { "start": 793.28, "end": 794.28, "text": " My parents have two cats." }, { "start": 794.28, "end": 795.28, "text": " Perfect." }, { "start": 795.28, "end": 799.44, "text": " And just are constantly petrified that the cats are dead, because, you know, they might" }, { "start": 799.44, "end": 800.44, "text": " be." }, { "start": 800.44, "end": 801.44, "text": " Absolutely." }, { "start": 801.44, "end": 802.44, "text": " They're old." }, { "start": 802.44, "end": 803.44, "text": " They probably are, yeah." }, { "start": 803.44, "end": 805.44, "text": " Yeah, and so this is, you know, it's peace of mind." }, { "start": 805.44, "end": 809.6800000000001, "text": " Yeah, I mean, they could, you know, talking to New Yorkers, probably more than anywhere" }, { "start": 809.6800000000001, "end": 813.08, "text": " else, the first thing people think about are the cats or their dogs." }, { "start": 813.08, "end": 816.2800000000001, "text": " And the ability to like, wow, I can see what's happening all day long." }, { "start": 816.2800000000001, "end": 817.2800000000001, "text": " Just check in on them." }, { "start": 817.2800000000001, "end": 819.2800000000001, "text": " Like, you know, brings pleasure to their lives." }, { "start": 819.2800000000001, "end": 820.2800000000001, "text": " So this, you can do that." }, { "start": 820.2800000000001, "end": 823.96, "text": " And you get like a live webcam of your pet and just watch that all day." }, { "start": 823.96, "end": 824.96, "text": " Live video anytime you want." }, { "start": 824.96, "end": 825.96, "text": " Exactly." }, { "start": 825.96, "end": 826.96, "text": " Awesome." }, { "start": 826.96, "end": 827.96, "text": " All right." }, { "start": 827.96, "end": 828.96, "text": " Well, thank you so much." }, { "start": 828.96, "end": 829.96, "text": " Thank you." }, { "start": 829.96, "end": 843.4000000000001, "text": " Thanks." } ]

[ { "start": 0, "end": 6.640000000000001, "text": " It's Thursday, October 24th, 2013. I'm Dan Berg, the keeper of the keys at The Verge." }, { "start": 6.640000000000001, "end": 8.16, "text": " Hey, can I get the bathroom key?" }, { "start": 8.16, "end": 10.96, "text": " Yeah, just 90 seconds on The Verge." }, { "start": 10.96, "end": 14, "text": " YouTube is preparing its own music subscription service." }, { "start": 14, "end": 18.96, "text": " Billboard reports that the service will work similar to Spotify, but with an added video component." }, { "start": 18.96, "end": 22.72, "text": " Sources close to the project say the service could launch by the end of the year." }, { "start": 22.72, "end": 26.96, "text": " If the reports are true, you'll be able to either subscribe to Google's YouTube music service," }, { "start": 26.96, "end": 29.6, "text": " or Google's other music subscription service." }, { "start": 29.6, "end": 30.96, "text": " Wait, what's the difference?" }, { "start": 30.96, "end": 36.480000000000004, "text": " Blackberry's BBM app is now available for iOS and Android, and all the kids are saying the exact same thing." }, { "start": 36.480000000000004, "end": 41.760000000000005, "text": " The app's page in the Google Play store has been tarnished by hundreds of seemingly fake user reviews." }, { "start": 41.760000000000005, "end": 46.16, "text": " Though the star ratings differ, all the reviews have the same grammatically incorrect phrase." }, { "start": 46.16, "end": 51.68000000000001, "text": " Blackberry said it had no part in the so-called AsterTurfing, and the phrase has become something of a meme." }, { "start": 51.68000000000001, "end": 53.44, "text": " A very, very nerdy meme." }, { "start": 53.44, "end": 57.44, "text": " And finally, the Jedi is returning. Or at least the guy who wrote it is." }, { "start": 57.44, "end": 64, "text": " Lawrence Kasdan is taking over writing duties on the upcoming Star Wars Episode VII, along with director J.J. Abrams." }, { "start": 64, "end": 67.44, "text": " The change of writers should come as exciting news to fans of the series." }, { "start": 67.44, "end": 72, "text": " Kasdan helped write the screenplays for both The Empire Strikes Back and The Return of the Jedi." }, { "start": 72, "end": 76.64, "text": " Unfortunately, fans will have to wait until 2015 to visit a galaxy far, far away." }, { "start": 76.64, "end": 80.8, "text": " And that's it for today's top stories. Coming up tomorrow, I audition to be on The Price is Right." }, { "start": 81.84, "end": 83.03999999999999, "text": " An iPad 2." }, { "start": 83.03999999999999, "end": 84, "text": " One hundred dollars, Drew." }, { "start": 84, "end": 86.64, "text": " Four hundred f***ing dollars?" } ]

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Now this neighborhood is better known for celebrity sightings than startups, but right here in the shadow of One World Trade Center," }, { "start": 29, "end": 44, "text": " four guys fled a large tech company on the West Coast to move into a tiny studio apartment to build the iOS application that would make people rethink the iPad forever." }, { "start": 49, "end": 57, "text": " People think they're not artistic or that they can't create, and one of the most fascinating things for me in creating paper was that, you know," }, { "start": 57, "end": 65, "text": " we showed to people this beautiful application which truly you can use it anywhere. I mean, we made it as easy as we could." }, { "start": 65, "end": 71, "text": " People look at it and their reaction is, you know, their shoulders drop and then they say, it's like, oh, I can't create." }, { "start": 71, "end": 79, "text": " Some people see the blank page and are intimidated by it. They had their handwriting criticized for years, were never able to master things like painting." }, { "start": 79, "end": 88, "text": " And so we've actually put a lot of time both on the design side, but a lot of time on the engineering side, trying to figure out how we can create some very smart algorithms," }, { "start": 88, "end": 94, "text": " almost guitar hero style that make your drawing and your sketching and your note taking just look great." }, { "start": 94, "end": 97, "text": " So this isn't like paint by number?" }, { "start": 97, "end": 106, "text": " No, I mean, you're still very much in control. But the watercolor itself, you know, it doesn't, you don't wind up with the brown puddle that most people do when they're playing with watercolor." }, { "start": 106, "end": 109, "text": " It's a sore subject for me. Yes." }, { "start": 109, "end": 121, "text": " It doesn't matter, you know, what your background, what your degree of art skills are, you know, if you put some time into it and you work with the right tool, you can create some amazing things." }, { "start": 121, "end": 130, "text": " The one thing that was very clear, I mean, I've worked on productivity tools of one nature, one former nature for probably 12, 13 years." }, { "start": 130, "end": 139, "text": " So it's certainly a long term. It's not that I woke up one morning and said, Oh, I want to work on tools. I've been working on tools. And that's kind of that is my passion." }, { "start": 139, "end": 145, "text": " And but then sort of the mechanics of starting a company that was that was more of a question around timing." }, { "start": 145, "end": 148, "text": " And a couple of things just started moving the right way." }, { "start": 148, "end": 160, "text": " I had then you look at, OK, so it did have the space in New York City. Andrew was here. Julian was freelancing at that time. So it was just the right moment. And then we had to go." }, { "start": 160, "end": 168, "text": " So you guys you became were you friends first or had you started working together at Microsoft, was it?" }, { "start": 168, "end": 173, "text": " And then developed a friendship or how'd that go down? That's right. I mean, it's one of those things. How do you make friends?" }, { "start": 173, "end": 183, "text": " How do you find friends? It's it's it's we all at one point in our lives had worked at Microsoft and we had an intersection there." }, { "start": 183, "end": 190, "text": " When I think of great design, there are a lot of companies that I think of before. It's not the first." }, { "start": 190, "end": 197, "text": " It's not the first. Help me understand how you all were existing within Microsoft." }, { "start": 197, "end": 206, "text": " So there was a small team called Pioneer Studios at Microsoft that was sort of a kind of Skunk Works team there looking at future products." }, { "start": 206, "end": 214, "text": " One of the products there was Korea, which was sort of a two screen tablet device. And George, John and myself all worked on that project." }, { "start": 214, "end": 225, "text": " And Julian was someone that we knew through other friends. And so when we kind of went our separate ways and came back together for 53, we just kind of tapped on the best people that we knew." }, { "start": 225, "end": 231, "text": " By the time we started 53, at last count, I think we've built over 67 products." }, { "start": 231, "end": 237, "text": " And, you know, from Kinect to game controllers to Office, a broad range." }, { "start": 237, "end": 240, "text": " When you say built, are we talking about like build, ship, like finished, like done?" }, { "start": 240, "end": 242, "text": " Like concept, done." }, { "start": 242, "end": 248, "text": " That's amazing. What was the moment when you were like, all right, you know what? Forget it. I got a comfortable job here." }, { "start": 248, "end": 252, "text": " But you know what? I want to go live in a crammed apartment in Tribeca." }, { "start": 252, "end": 260, "text": " I had actually already left Microsoft. 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I had no idea how I was going to get there." }, { "start": 272, "end": 280, "text": " But I just finally threw myself into the unknown and waited to see what would happen." }, { "start": 280, "end": 283, "text": " We met late at night at Burning the Midnight Oil." }, { "start": 283, "end": 289, "text": " It's the folks in the office, in Seattle, downtown Seattle, working a number of projects." }, { "start": 289, "end": 295, "text": " And that's kind of when you start looking up and you look around and just see people that you so deeply respect." }, { "start": 295, "end": 297, "text": " These are the folks that I was learning from." }, { "start": 297, "end": 305, "text": " And at some point you realize that I could have such a more interesting life if I can spend more time with those folks." }, { "start": 305, "end": 310, "text": " And that's when you want to start. For us, that's when we wanted to start a company." }, { "start": 311, "end": 315, "text": " Now you guys have obviously taken over a number of floors in this building." }, { "start": 315, "end": 320, "text": " But the fact that it started here is special because you leave Microsoft behind." }, { "start": 320, "end": 323, "text": " You had moved to New York here in Tribeca." }, { "start": 323, "end": 329, "text": " And then you coaxed all of your former coworkers and friends to come camp out in your apartment." }, { "start": 329, "end": 331, "text": " The bedroom is over there, right?" }, { "start": 331, "end": 334, "text": " Yeah. It got a little rough." }, { "start": 334, "end": 337, "text": " At 2am sometimes I had to kick out everyone." }, { "start": 337, "end": 340, "text": " So how did you convince them to do this?" }, { "start": 340, "end": 343, "text": " It was more, we had to do it." }, { "start": 343, "end": 349, "text": " When you look at Julian, John, Andrew and us, we just wanted to get this started." }, { "start": 349, "end": 351, "text": " And you do whatever it takes." }, { "start": 351, "end": 354, "text": " And it's New York City, how bad can it get?" }, { "start": 354, "end": 359, "text": " When you look at what we're doing, which is trying to revolutionize creativity," }, { "start": 359, "end": 363, "text": " certainly New York City is probably the most creative city." }, { "start": 363, "end": 365, "text": " We are the most creative people in the world." }, { "start": 365, "end": 367, "text": " It's okay to say that, I think." }, { "start": 367, "end": 370, "text": " It's a creative capital of the United States." }, { "start": 370, "end": 373, "text": " And so it just made sense for us to be around that." }, { "start": 373, "end": 378, "text": " And it's nice, I think, to get a diverse mix of not only tech people," }, { "start": 378, "end": 381, "text": " but design folks, art folks, business folks." }, { "start": 381, "end": 385, "text": " So I feel like we have a much more balanced environment here." }, { "start": 385, "end": 387, "text": " Our market is New York." }, { "start": 387, "end": 392, "text": " We create tools where people get paid to think, people have a need to create." }, { "start": 392, "end": 394, "text": " That's New York City." }, { "start": 394, "end": 397, "text": " There are 3.2 million people who day in day out get paid to work in media," }, { "start": 397, "end": 400, "text": " advertising, do consulting." }, { "start": 400, "end": 402, "text": " Some of the best attorneys are here, engineers." }, { "start": 402, "end": 408, "text": " I mean, it's such a broad, diverse population that have a need to create." }, { "start": 408, "end": 410, "text": " And then we were thinking we're building a journal." }, { "start": 410, "end": 411, "text": " We should build a journal." }, { "start": 411, "end": 414, "text": " But we kept describing it like paper." }, { "start": 414, "end": 420, "text": " And at some point, if we call it like paper, why don't we just call it paper?" }, { "start": 420, "end": 423, "text": " So that was actually two weeks before we launched." }, { "start": 423, "end": 424, "text": " I can't tell you." }, { "start": 424, "end": 427, "text": " Hitmonk was going to be Bounce Pounce for a week or two," }, { "start": 427, "end": 431, "text": " and then a week before launch it becomes Hitmonk, which is still weird, but better." }, { "start": 431, "end": 433, "text": " Bounce Pounce." }, { "start": 433, "end": 436, "text": " I think you don't want to Google that." }, { "start": 436, "end": 437, "text": " No, no you don't." }, { "start": 437, "end": 442, "text": " Well, so I couldn't help but notice a little something on your bookshelf" }, { "start": 442, "end": 445, "text": " that I'd hope you would tell me a little more about." }, { "start": 445, "end": 451, "text": " How would your friends at Microsoft react to this, this Apple Design Award?" }, { "start": 451, "end": 452, "text": " And this is heavy." }, { "start": 452, "end": 454, "text": " This is, I could curl this." }, { "start": 454, "end": 457, "text": " Yes, so paper won, this is actually one of," }, { "start": 457, "end": 460, "text": " and it's for technical achievement and design, sort of a combination of that." }, { "start": 460, "end": 463, "text": " And so, you know, first we were App of the Week, then App of the Month," }, { "start": 463, "end": 465, "text": " and then we won an Apple Design Award," }, { "start": 465, "end": 470, "text": " mainly because paper showed the way how you can use tablets or an iPad for creation." }, { "start": 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614, "text": " To get started, you need the SDK, and you could be building iOS apps in a few months." }, { "start": 614, "end": 619, "text": " There are a lot of people out there, myself included, who are like, go build stuff, go launch stuff, go create." }, { "start": 619, "end": 624, "text": " Yet, you know, you look at the majority of apps on the App Store, for instance," }, { "start": 624, "end": 628, "text": " our apps, most people probably will never get more than a few thousand downloads." }, { "start": 628, "end": 634, "text": " For someone watching this who wants to have paper, who wants to have that kind of success," }, { "start": 634, "end": 638, "text": " is the lesson, keep launching stuff until it sticks," }, { "start": 638, "end": 641, "text": " or, you know what, don't launch that yet." }, { "start": 641, "end": 646, "text": " Make sure it's really something great, and then how the hell do you know it's really something great?" }, { "start": 646, "end": 652, "text": " You know, we're sort of in an environment now where there's so much mediocrity" }, { "start": 652, "end": 657, "text": " that you really have to produce something amazing, something great to really live above it." }, { "start": 657, "end": 663, "text": " And so I do think it's worth kind of hanging on to your idea and spending a little bit more time polishing it" }, { "start": 663, "end": 669, "text": " to really get it to a point that you feel like it's going to say something new, it's going to tell a new story," }, { "start": 669, "end": 677, "text": " and it's just extremely well executed, it's useful, and it can have a nice big impact." }, { "start": 677, "end": 683, "text": " So when you told the landlord that you needed the top floor in addition to the other two, was he pretty amenable?" }, { "start": 683, "end": 687, "text": " Yeah, I think he was happy. I mean, a six-floor walk-up usually doesn't rent that quickly." }, { "start": 687, "end": 688, "text": " Good point." }, { "start": 688, "end": 693, "text": " Well, this is the top floor. Hey, 53." }, { "start": 693, "end": 696, "text": " Hey, everybody. Sorry to distract you while you're busy working." }, { "start": 696, "end": 702, "text": " Why do you guys work at a startup, right? Why is this something that you ended up in?" }, { "start": 702, "end": 710, "text": " I really like the idea of a maker-driven company, and a company where people are really using the software they're making." }, { "start": 710, "end": 715, "text": " I thought there was something really special about that. It was really evident in what the customers were making." }, { "start": 715, "end": 720, "text": " So I actually picked up paper and started using them day one and was just obsessed." }, { "start": 720, "end": 724, "text": " I fell in love, and I was like, these guys get it. They get creation on a tablet." }, { "start": 724, "end": 730, "text": " So like, perusing Tumblr and other social media outlets and just seeing what people were making was amazing," }, { "start": 730, "end": 735, "text": " and I just wanted to be a part of that. It was a lot of energy coming out of that space." }, { "start": 735, "end": 736, "text": " Would you say you're the best artist here?" }, { "start": 736, "end": 738, "text": " No." }, { "start": 738, "end": 743, "text": " Prior to coming here, I worked for a lot of bigger, like, marketing companies," }, { "start": 743, "end": 748, "text": " and so I had an opportunity where I was doing some consulting, and I had an opportunity to really look where I wanted to go next," }, { "start": 748, "end": 754, "text": " and I wanted to do something that made a difference, as cliche as that might sound." }, { "start": 754, "end": 760, "text": " I didn't want to be in a company where it's like, let's chase the next dollar, not really care about the consequences," }, { "start": 760, "end": 763, "text": " and this was an absolute perfect fit." }, { "start": 763, "end": 770, "text": " See, I know you're serious because you have to wake up every morning and walk up seven flights of stairs to get to your work." }, { "start": 770, "end": 772, "text": " Right. And I'm excited to do it." }, { "start": 772, "end": 774, "text": " You're excited to do it every time. That's great." }, { "start": 774, "end": 779, "text": " When you think about what paper, as it stands right now, is doing for people," }, { "start": 779, "end": 787, "text": " the idea at first blush of like, oh, here is an easy, beautiful, wonderful way to create art, seems nice," }, { "start": 787, "end": 795, "text": " but it seems like something only a bunch of art students might use, or only a bunch of like, people who already are in a creative mindset would use." }, { "start": 795, "end": 799, "text": " How do you think about this application when you're looking at a world of people," }, { "start": 799, "end": 805, "text": " many of whom don't even consider themselves remotely artistic, who don't even think about themselves as creators?" }, { "start": 805, "end": 812, "text": " Why would you want to try to build a product that is automatically going to kind of alienate a majority of people?" }, { "start": 812, "end": 820, "text": " Well, I mean, the interesting thing is we built paper as sort of that bridge, and so we actually get a lot of people," }, { "start": 820, "end": 827, "text": " you know, we get emails almost every week about people that tell us that like, I never thought I could sketch before, you know, until I tried paper." }, { "start": 827, "end": 831, "text": " People have never gotten the right and positive in reinforcement." }, { "start": 831, "end": 838, "text": " You know, because of SAT scores, because of GPAs, because of reading, writing, people think they know how to read and how to write and how to do math." }, { "start": 838, "end": 842, "text": " I don't know many people who write well. I don't." }, { "start": 842, "end": 847, "text": " I know a lot of people who can put together a great chicken scratch catch to communicate their idea much more efficiently." }, { "start": 847, "end": 851, "text": " An emoticon people know how to use. A smiley face people know how to draw." }, { "start": 851, "end": 855, "text": " Describing in words your emotional state, complicated." }, { "start": 855, "end": 860, "text": " But people think they know how to do it. Why? Because they grab grades. They got reinforcement. They got certifications." }, { "start": 860, "end": 865, "text": " And this is, you know, a much bigger level. When you think about how people communicate, it is visually first." }, { "start": 865, "end": 871, "text": " We're visual learners. We fail to educate our population, right?" }, { "start": 871, "end": 875, "text": " We should all be fluent communicating in images." }, { "start": 875, "end": 881, "text": " So when people say I'm not creative, what they're saying is I can't draw or I don't know how to communicate visually." }, { "start": 881, "end": 887, "text": " And I say our challenge is to make sure that everyone can, because it's going to transform the level and the quality of our ideas," }, { "start": 887, "end": 893, "text": " how we work together, and how we get things done." }, { "start": 893, "end": 899, "text": " Now it doesn't matter how beautiful your app is, if no one uses it, it doesn't really matter." }, { "start": 899, "end": 903, "text": " The thing about paper that's so interesting is it's not just for artists." }, { "start": 903, "end": 909, "text": " In fact, we're going to meet a high school teacher named Brad who's using it to change education." }, { "start": 909, "end": 913, "text": " So this is the first thing I did with paper when it first came out. I was just noodling around." }, { "start": 913, "end": 918, "text": " And I wanted a quick way to make a little diary of my day." }, { "start": 918, "end": 921, "text": " So this actually goes on a Tumblr blog I have called 100% of my time." }, { "start": 921, "end": 927, "text": " So what I do is just ten lines, different colors, representing the percentage of my day that's taken up with these things." }, { "start": 927, "end": 930, "text": " It's not necessarily time. Sort of like Chinese miles. They're called li." }, { "start": 930, "end": 935, "text": " Chinese miles are longer going up than they are going down because it's a measure of distance and effort." }, { "start": 935, "end": 942, "text": " So this was actually a travel day. To get somewhere you just sit down for a long time and then all of a sudden you're in a new place." }, { "start": 942, "end": 946, "text": " How early of an adopter were you of paper? Did you download it the day it came out?" }, { "start": 946, "end": 950, "text": " It might have been a couple of days old, but I grabbed it as soon as it came out." }, { "start": 950, "end": 953, "text": " I love the tool. I'm not an artist, but I like doodling around and drawing." }, { "start": 953, "end": 959, "text": " And I played around with some different apps. So sort of at the low end were something like Adobe Ideas." }, { "start": 959, "end": 963, "text": " Very simple tool set, which I like. I like the simplicity, but it was too simple." }, { "start": 963, "end": 967, "text": " And then at the other end were things like Sketchbook Pro or something." }, { "start": 967, "end": 972, "text": " Incredibly powerful tool sets for professional designers and artists and that kind of thing." }, { "start": 972, "end": 975, "text": " But when I was playing with it, the learning curve was really big." }, { "start": 975, "end": 983, "text": " And the tool set was so big that by the time you drilled down and got the tool you wanted and came back, I had lost my train of thought or whatever." }, { "start": 983, "end": 986, "text": " I don't know how you know, but you look at an app and you go, this is just going to work." }, { "start": 986, "end": 992, "text": " There's something in the way it's presented that you just go, okay, it's going to be a simple enough but not too simple tool set" }, { "start": 992, "end": 994, "text": " that would allow me to just doodle around." }, { "start": 994, "end": 998, "text": " If there's one thing that Microsoft taught me, it was a certain irreverence to technology." }, { "start": 998, "end": 1006, "text": " In ten years there, I saw speech interfaces, gesture interfaces, multiple operating systems, mobile phone operating systems, multiple programming models." }, { "start": 1006, "end": 1011, "text": " I mean, they keep trying. I mean, they see technology as completely malleable." }, { "start": 1011, "end": 1017, "text": " And what you gain from that is really this understanding of appreciation that, yeah, technology is malleable." }, { "start": 1017, "end": 1020, "text": " The most important thing is understanding what do you want to do with it?" }, { "start": 1020, "end": 1025, "text": " How should it look like? And for us, there was technologies there to help people create." }, { "start": 1025, "end": 1028, "text": " That's what it's for. And that became such a focusing point." }, { "start": 1028, "end": 1033, "text": " Anything that doesn't help you create, get rid of it. It shouldn't be there." }, { "start": 1033, "end": 1036, "text": " Clock? No. You don't need a clock while you're creating." }, { "start": 1036, "end": 1038, "text": " Battery meter? Don't need it." }, { "start": 1038, "end": 1041, "text": " So it's what do you really need to get going?" }, { "start": 1041, "end": 1046, "text": " And you need beautiful tools that work because beauty gives you meaning while you're creating." }, { "start": 1046, "end": 1048, "text": " We think that beauty is very important to ideas." }, { "start": 1048, "end": 1051, "text": " You have to be able to elevate your idea." }, { "start": 1051, "end": 1058, "text": " The first thing you see is when you try and capture an idea, if it looks bad, it just sets it off on the wrong tone and it kind of kills the idea." }, { "start": 1058, "end": 1060, "text": " They're very fragile things, ideas." }, { "start": 1063, "end": 1074, "text": " Your students, are they, because they're coming at it without a lot of the biases and sort of, I don't know, the inertia that comes with the way things ought to be," }, { "start": 1074, "end": 1084, "text": " how do you think this is going to make them when it comes to storytelling as well as just sort of how they process ideas?" }, { "start": 1084, "end": 1091, "text": " Well, it's interesting. I think the kids want to, by the time they get to high school where I teach, all of that's gone." }, { "start": 1091, "end": 1096, "text": " If you want to see all of that expressing themselves that way." }, { "start": 1096, "end": 1103, "text": " I teach a philosophy course and I'll often give the kids two apparently separate ideas and get them to try and find the connection." }, { "start": 1103, "end": 1106, "text": " If you think linearly, it's almost impossible to do." }, { "start": 1106, "end": 1108, "text": " You really have to bust out of your usual thinking." }, { "start": 1108, "end": 1111, "text": " It was in the middle of class and these are bright kids." }, { "start": 1111, "end": 1115, "text": " We're a university prep school and kids go to Harvard and Stanford and all this kind of stuff." }, { "start": 1115, "end": 1117, "text": " They just weren't thinking." }, { "start": 1117, "end": 1119, "text": " I remember just literally banging my head on the desk and I said," }, { "start": 1119, "end": 1122, "text": " for goodness sakes you guys, would you just think for a second?" }, { "start": 1122, "end": 1125, "text": " One of the students, top girl in the school kind of kid, said," }, { "start": 1125, "end": 1127, "text": " Mr. O.C., we don't have time to think." }, { "start": 1127, "end": 1132, "text": " We just need you to give us the answers so we can get them down and we can get our sixes and sevens so we can get into the university." }, { "start": 1132, "end": 1135, "text": " We don't have time to think." }, { "start": 1135, "end": 1138, "text": " Yeah, and they're gaming the system." }, { "start": 1138, "end": 1141, "text": " We need the marks to get to the universities we want to get to." }, { "start": 1141, "end": 1143, "text": " Wow, that's how they're thinking about education." }, { "start": 1143, "end": 1145, "text": " So when you give them a tool that allows them to just think," }, { "start": 1145, "end": 1148, "text": " you give people a blank page and they often just, I say go make something," }, { "start": 1148, "end": 1150, "text": " and they go, well, tell us what you want us to make." }, { "start": 1150, "end": 1152, "text": " So they're not used to that." }, { "start": 1152, "end": 1156, "text": " You give any kid a piece of paper and a crayon and they'll scribble on it." }, { "start": 1156, "end": 1160, "text": " And we've got to teach them how to draw and make notes and lay out the page and all the rest of it." }, { "start": 1160, "end": 1166, "text": " And I'm finding with these technologies that I think are kind of liberating technologies," }, { "start": 1166, "end": 1170, "text": " students at first are not used to using them." }, { "start": 1170, "end": 1172, "text": " They want to go, where does the necessary information?" }, { "start": 1172, "end": 1174, "text": " So you give them something like this and say, sketch note it." }, { "start": 1174, "end": 1176, "text": " Don't worry about the trivial data." }, { "start": 1176, "end": 1178, "text": " We can look that up later." }, { "start": 1178, "end": 1183, "text": " Let's capture the things we don't know or the things we find really exciting and use that to drive something." }, { "start": 1183, "end": 1185, "text": " That's really foreign to the kids." }, { "start": 1185, "end": 1190, "text": " And it's really big structures that force kids into that kind of envelope," }, { "start": 1190, "end": 1193, "text": " where the big structure is I need to get to university," }, { "start": 1193, "end": 1196, "text": " which means I need my GPA to be four point something." }, { "start": 1196, "end": 1200, "text": " So if I'm going to play around with this, I'm taking a risk with my grades." }, { "start": 1200, "end": 1203, "text": " So you need to create the space that allows them to do that too." }, { "start": 1203, "end": 1206, "text": " Once it gets going though, every time I've given kids that," }, { "start": 1206, "end": 1208, "text": " I've 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"text": " All of a sudden you're getting a new skill." }, { "start": 1237, "end": 1238, "text": " You can think in color." }, { "start": 1238, "end": 1239, "text": " You can express it in color." }, { "start": 1239, "end": 1240, "text": " Color is meaningful." }, { "start": 1240, "end": 1242, "text": " It's the choice between a red and a blue tie." }, { "start": 1242, "end": 1244, "text": " That stuff matters." }, { "start": 1244, "end": 1250, "text": " It's just because you had a bad experience in art school when you were six or seven." }, { "start": 1250, "end": 1254, "text": " But that need to be expressive is pervasive." }, { "start": 1254, "end": 1258, "text": " So I mean, these are certain things where you just can't listen to people." }, { "start": 1258, "end": 1260, "text": " You need to hear a little bit further." }, { "start": 1260, "end": 1263, "text": " When they say, no, don't do watercolor, go do PowerPoint," }, { "start": 1263, "end": 1267, "text": " you're seeing a deeper need and fear emerge." }, { "start": 1267, "end": 1271, "text": " Which is like, I can't access this thing." }, { "start": 1271, "end": 1273, "text": " And that is an opportunity." }, { "start": 1273, "end": 1274, "text": " It's like, okay, this is good." }, { "start": 1274, "end": 1275, "text": " You called my idea crazy." }, { "start": 1275, "end": 1277, "text": " I'm going to do it." }, { "start": 1277, "end": 1278, "text": " I mean, you need that." }, { "start": 1278, "end": 1280, "text": " If people don't call your ideas crazy or silly," }, { "start": 1280, "end": 1282, "text": " then you're not working on the right thing." }, { "start": 1282, "end": 1283, "text": " Building a product is hard." }, { "start": 1283, "end": 1287, "text": " That's why I'm always telling founders, as soon as it's good enough, ship it." }, { "start": 1287, "end": 1291, "text": " Now these four guys basically got an education while they were at Microsoft" }, { "start": 1291, "end": 1293, "text": " in taking an idea and launching a product." }, { "start": 1293, "end": 1295, "text": " They did it time and time again," }, { "start": 1295, "end": 1298, "text": " but they couldn't build the product that they wanted" }, { "start": 1298, "end": 1301, "text": " until they left and started their own company." }, { "start": 1301, "end": 1303, "text": " It's fitting that they would go on to create an app" }, { "start": 1303, "end": 1308, "text": " that allows anyone with an iPad to just get started creating beautiful things." }, { "start": 1308, "end": 1311, "text": " And I want to live in a world where when someone sees a blank canvas," }, { "start": 1311, "end": 1329, "text": " they're not intimidated, they're inspired." }, { "start": 1341, "end": 1342, "text": " Microsoft Mechanics" }, { "start": 1342, "end": 1371, "text": " www.microsoft.com MacMechs" } ]

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