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"content": "Name is unrelated to anything, just wanted to make a Star Wars joke since these threads seem to never end\n\nHonestly just go touch grass, don’t even read anything beyond this, god save your filthy soul if you venture too deep",
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"content": "The democratic party will turn out to vote for whomever we replace Biden with, probably Whitmer or someone else we like, Biden doesn't matter, he's cherry picking polls favorable to him when he says stuff like only 3 in 10 democrats wanting to replace him. There's no downside loss to Biden stepping out, only upside, we're going to lose anyway!\n\nWhat is with all these blue MAGAs WTF? We're not a personality cult like the GOP! How could people like this obviously senile person? I must just be imagining them.",
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"content": "There is downside to him stepping out, how tf do people think that",
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"content": "He truly cannot see the disasters he's caused, and will continue to cause in the future.",
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"content": ">He truly cannot see the disasters he's caused...\n\nOf course he does. He has dementia. It's not end-stage yet. He's not insane.",
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"content": "No, but he's willfully blind and obstinate about it. He doesn't see it because he chooses not to.",
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"content": "I was/am hoping for a come-to-Jesus moment with Donald Trump... Maybe, just MAYBE, he would gain an adequate perspective commensurate with what just transpired. MAYBE he would change...",
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"content": "If you support funding Israel and think this is funny, then you are a massive hypocrite.\n\nNot to mention, if Trump wins in November, Putin is going to run wild.",
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"content": "No problem with me. American Tax dollars should be going toward American issues. Israel should play nice with their neighbors or stand on their own. Ukraine as well. Trump was already President and I hope he pulls aid from both countries.",
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"content": "All fair views!\n\nAlthough you must also acknowledge and consider the risk of Putin continuing his battle against democratic governments. This could eventually result in an increased existential threat to the United States.\n\nIn the case of Israel, American citizens are only concerned about religious texts.",
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"content": "\\^ Strongest cultist comeback rehearsal \nas original as it gets.",
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"content": "It's because Robinsons black, you could have trump say word for word what Robinson is saying and it would be fine",
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"content": "If that is the case, you still shouldn't shout wolf. Shout \"bear!\". Seriously.\n\nIt doesn't actually matter to what extent Trump is a fascist Nazi. Saying something (anything) that less-political people don't automatically tune out is what matters.",
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"content": "Yeah maybe. I mean I wouldn't call Trump a \"Nazi\", but \"fascist\" in terms of the spectrum from Mussolini to Franco to Pinochet and the plans for Trumps next regime is as a fair a descriptor as things get, IMO. What alternatives would you suggest?",
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"content": "If they followed Christ at all they would be liberals who welcome immigrants and support universal healthcare and free lunches for school children. \n\nI don't get why we use labels like 'Christianity' at all when they get to believe whatever they want to believe anyway even if it's a complete contradiction to the teachings of Christ.",
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"content": "He's not a vegetable, come on. lol He is old and I saw the debate, he is not what he used to be but at least he tells the truth, mostly and honestly love the republic, unlike Trump that is bound to destroy it, by his sheer incompetence and psychopathic tendencies.\n\nNot to mention something that is not said enough on here, most of the work is done by Joe Biden's cabinet and his administration, all the people working for him. \n\nJoe can stumble over his words and laugh at the oval office, people will laugh with him and correct what he said to do and do it. \n\nDemocrats will have to run with Joe Biden. Every time in History, a democratic president stepped down, we lost. Kamala is hated by the racists on the right and too many people think she's incompetent because they say we never saw her do anything so she would lose to Trump. Newsom does not want to run in 2024, Whitmer would lose, every other alternatives would lose. It's up to Joe Biden, to repeat what he did in 2020 : defeat Donald Trump.\n\nIt's not the ideal situation but it's the best shot we have. \n\nNot to mention if Joe steps down, we lose 2 keys out of the 13 from Alan Richtman's system to predict presidencies, need 6 out of 13, I believe and he got 9 out of the last 10 right, which mean we would lose.",
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"content": "> doesn’t come across as an elitist intellectual\n\nTrue, yet also hilarious, since basically by definition astronauts are both *elite* and *intellectual*.",
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"content": "Okay, but I'm thinking of cocktails now (teehee) and the \"Arnold Palmer's Cock\" should be one. Who wants to write the recipe?",
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"content": "so like a tapworm shot ?\n\nlemonade, iced tea, vodka and a long squirt of mayo",
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"content": "be nice if there was a functioning congress. any real, long term, systemic changes that would actually improve people's lives require legislation that address those root issues. Biden can have the most progressive agenda imaginable but if congress turns bright red in november, it wont matter one bit. i hate how the presidential election is the only one that gets so much attention. every race is important.",
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"content": "Yes, but that's also not what Sanders is saying--what's the agenda? What's the *plan* even if it can't be done? What are the goals? Before the debate the plan seemed to be \"Trump bad, I'm not him.\" Now it seems to be \"I'm totally fine, vote for me.\"",
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"content": "It's right on his website\n\nhttps://joebiden.com/issues/\n\nSame stuff he talks about nonstop",
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"content": "So…is it time to start getting serious about emigration?\n\nIf the American people are dead set on the destructive path this indicates, can we at least remove ourselves from its support? Preserve our liberal values elsewhere while also brain-draining the US and maybe getting some of our assets out?",
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"content": "1. This betrays a total misjudgment of where the risk actually lies. “Thinking abortion and sex before marriage is ok” is not going to lead to criminal charges FFS. A breakdown in U.S. economic and political influence abroad, spiraling fiscal debt, and degradation of public services as civil servants are replaced by loyalists - these are the most salient risks of a Trump presidency; not being put in jail for thinking sex before marriage is ok. \n\n2. The alternatives for this proposed emigration are scant. The UK has a better government now but the country is in dire economic straits with no solutions in sight. Canada is becoming more racist by the day. France is also in dire financial straits and they burn garbage anytime someone tries to fix the underlying issues. Netherlands, Norway, and Denmark seem in decent shape, but only if you’re white. I guess that leaves Australia?",
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"content": "> the socialist group objected to Ms. Ocasio-Cortez’s participation in [a panel discussion](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrqNFcrL6I8) last month to draw attention to rising antisemitism on the right and the left. At the event, Ms. Ocasio-Cortez said criticism of Israel sometimes crossed into anti-Jewish hate, but she also said that accusations of antisemitism had been weaponized to silence legitimate critiques.\n\n \nThat's legitimately the most sane, uncontroversial thing you could say about the situation, lmao",
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"content": "Hey did yall grow up in a working middle class family? I grew up in a working middle class family",
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"content": "You know what I am bored enough, under President Biden the USA has experienced the largest increase of private union jobs during my working history. What is RFKjr plan to continuing to increase union jobs?",
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"content": "Promote the on-shoring of industrial production. Lobby Congress to change bankruptcy laws so that collective bargaining agreements are preserved through bankruptcy and assumed by the new owner. \nStrengthen protections for workers in the gig economy, so that corporations can no longer use gig workers to undermine wages for regular employees.\nAll from his website.",
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"content": "Battlefield, when you see this word, what comes into your mind?\nScenes from World War II movies? World War I? American Civil War? \nAnd what does the \"battlefield\" in Gaza look like?",
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"content": "Urban. Dw, caught that episode already.",
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"content": "Gaza Strip is not Gaza City, not every inch of the Gaza Strip is covered with civilians, Hamas has options to not fight in populated areas. They also have options to not stop the evaluation of civilians and to wear uniforms in battle.",
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"content": "And Trump is definitely better right 🙄",
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"content": "Absolutely. Country was in much better shape from 2016-2020 than it was from 2020-2024… and I get Kamala wasn’t the President but she was part of that regime😬",
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"content": "Better in what ways that don’t include Obama’s legacy? We are living from the consequences of Trump.",
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"content": "THERE IT IS! The bullshit narrative everything positive was because of Obama and everything negative was because of Trump😭 be serious and I’ll have a legit convo with you",
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"content": "Because it was in many metrics. It’s not bullshit people are saying when it’s factual. Sorry it isn’t the man you want it to be. Sorry Trump isn’t the savior you think he is.",
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"content": "Yeah, this is definitely going to be campaign fodder. And it should be. There's no both-sidesing this. The GOP has created this political environment. And yet again the Democrats are taking the high road and trying to get us out of it. You may not like Nancy Pelosi but she shows something Trump fully lacks, class.",
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"content": "Yeah if there's one thing that defeats fascism it's being classy enough to pray to God for the safety of fascists. Half expecting Biden to suspend his campaign for the rest of the election out of \"respect\".\n\"I don't agree with you destroying the nation, but I'll defend to the death your right to do so!\"\n\nThe silver lining here is that after Trump wins again, there will no longer be any place for compromising, defeatist, bipartisan- and decorum-obsessed centrism in this party anymore, and all of the leaders who have sent it down this path might finally be in extremely luxurious retirement homes by 2028. This election could be a watershed moment that turns the Democrats into a party that actually fights.",
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"content": "Stronger candidate?\n\nNobody else (Michelle Obama does not count, she has said \"no i'm not running\" over and over) polls as well against Trump as Joe, except for his own running mate. She isn't going to backstab him: https://imgur.com/GFAuCX8\n\nHis polling data has rebounded and he's back to 50:50 in the 538 projections already. His trendline is up in most battleground states and uninterrupted up: https://x.com/davidgura/status/1809577021602664848?t=kMZIuLVsG3vqdWUG4m8OKA (note: PA being T+7 is extremely unlikely, that is most likely as sampling error).\n\n\n\n**The Democratic voter base made it clear in the primary who they wanted, and a bunch of people online panicking don't get to override the will of the voters**\n\n#Edit: Above user asserted Joe would lose in 2020: https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/elh305/bernie_sanders_has_leaped_to_the_top_of_2020/fdhrx86/",
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"content": "Look at the polls. Biden is losing in 6 of the 8 swing states. We can’t afford a close race, this needs to be an overwhelming victory. Again. I will vote for the democrat but I also know what I saw in the debate and I’m definitely not alone.",
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"content": "Except he's not losing, he's *within the margin of error* in most. That is actually an important distinction, especially given what we have observed in polling in 2021-2023: It overestimates Republicans, consistently. \n\nI saw a very plausible explanation for why in 2021-2023 the polls kept overestimating Republicans: the census data is one of the inputs into their models. It's used to map their sample to the population, but the 2020 census had lots of errors due to Trump admin mismanagement and undercounted (to a statistically significant extent) demographics that skew heavily Democratic. \n\n**Trump's trend is overall down in the swing states, Biden's is overall up. Even after the debate**. \n\nPA being T+7 is not plausible, that's a 15 point swing in 2 years and not consistent with all other data. That is most likely a sampling error outlier. Especially given that Biden is up in Wisconsin and Michigan (outside the MOE on this one in fact). Being only down by 1 in Georgia is also good for us, especially given the chronic tendency polls have had recently to overestimate republicans.\n\nAll in all this data should have Republicans panicking, not us. Especially 4 months from the election and Biden is just starting his media blitz.\n\nMorning Joe in fact pointed out that Trump has literally been hiding at Mar-o-lago with his campaign scared shitless that he's going to open his mouth and give Biden more ammunition.\n\n**You incorrectly predicted the results of the 2020 election, maybe you should listen to those of us who know more about this kinda thing in 2024**",
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"content": "Too bad this voter won't get his felony conviction in time to have his vote rescinded.",
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"content": "No. He assaulted the poll worker on the way out. But the election isn't until Nov 5. So if he were to die or otherwise become ineligible to vote before the actual election, his vote would no longer be counted. At least that's how it works in Oregon.",
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"content": "I live in a red state and have noticed something unusual. Few folks, mostly white, in my neighborhood had Trump/Vance signs in their yard for months. But out of nowhere a lot of them removed their signs last week, I think Oct 30 was the day it happened. I confirmed that it’s not some HOA policy that was enforced. And now I’m seeing news of his rallies not getting packed in other red states. \n\nDid something trigger this sudden shift in some of them? Anyone else seen similar behavior in their neighborhood. If you are a Trumper who flipped in the past week, I’d like to understand why.",
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"content": "Probably fallout from the Nazi rally",
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"content": "non-college educated tbf, college educated white women voted Harris",
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"content": "Trump can't kick him from the ticket, Vance would need to drop out on his own, and the clock is ticking. Early voting in some states starts in September, so a decision will have to have been made by then.",
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"content": "We know Vance will not drop out because he wants the top job when the old man has a coronary from eating too much fast fatty food. His latest heart scan not looking good.",
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"content": "Yeah, he was seen as a bridge candidate. Where that bridge ends dictates everything. If his VP defeats Trump for what should be the final time, Biden will be viewed very highly. If that bridge ends with an emboldened Trump immediately taking back control of government and unleashing his radical agenda, then Biden is simply a failure who screwed the country over by not meeting the moment.",
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"content": "wtf? He said he’s the bridge. He did not say that he is the bridge, both shores and the people going across. \n\nBelieve it or not there are other political actors with shared responsibilities in this country.",
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"content": "> he’s the bridge\n\n> he is the bridge\n\nThis is literally the same meaning. What are you talking about?\n\nI never said there weren’t other political actors who would have blame. I’m just saying the major of credit or blame will be on Biden either way. Him stubbornly staying in the race put Harris in a difficult spot. Had he never ran for reelection and allowed an actual primary with viable candidates to take place, democrats would almost certainly be in a better place right now. Even if it was Harris as the nominee still.",
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"content": "He said he would be the bridge, but then decided he didn't want to be and tried to stay in power.",
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"content": "And then decided that he would, if fact, be the bridge.\n\nAnd it is pure speculation to say that there would be more or powerful juice for another candidate had he made this decision three years ago. There is absolutely no way of knowing whether or not the eventual candidate would be in a better position were circumstances different, and to act like you do evinces a punditry brain rot that has paralyzed the liberal and left electorate for about a decade now.",
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"content": "He was pushed off the bridge, more like. He tried to cling on to power.",
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"content": "To expect someone at the top of the most egomaniacal profession to gracefully orchestrate their own loss of power is incredibly naive.",
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"content": "Pardon me for wanting a democratic candidate who cares more about the country than their own personal aggrandizement.",
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"content": "You’re probably correct. She ticks a lot of boxes, keeps his promise of choosing a woman, she will give the centrists more reason to vote GOP, she has foreign policy acumen, it’s gonna be her.",
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"content": "Publicly traded companies on the stock market have a set of investors and a board that are \"legally\" required to maximize return to shareholders. B-corps and co-ops can and do exist under capitalism without needing endless growth",
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"content": "[This](https://www.angelfire.com/ns2/briancrocker/News_Media_Email_Addresses.htm) is a list of media contact information. Get on forcing them to acknowledge it. I’ll help with writing it if you like.",
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