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doc_86_Madhu | M_P358 | taking-moud | Suboxone and Hyperhidrosis/Excessive sweating??? From Methadone to Suboxone I've started just violently dripping from my face and head. I need to know I'm not alone as my Dr didn't think they were related, but it didn't really start being a serious problem for me until I started taking subs 3 years ago, doesn't matter the temperature, no trigger warnings, just soaked. Please tell me there's at least one person out there who is in the same boat? | I had a friend who was in rehab with me and he had the same issue when he first started subs...at one point he decided to spit instead of swallow the sub juice, and he said that stopped it. It doesn't make any sense cause you should get the same amount of the same drug, but he swore by it lol | {
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doc_71_Madhu | P_T675 | tapering | We’re you super tired when you tapered? Sorry I forgot to ask in my last post.. i am so tired when I taper down. It sucks. I couldn’t figure it out but every time I taper down I’m just so bloody tired. Amazed my old doctor said I could taper from 6- nothing in 3 weeks. I would have ended up in the hospital. | oh yeah. super tired. lol 3 weeks my ass. these doctors are clowns | {
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doc_73_Madhu | M_T110 | taking-moud | 16mg a day..tapering myself down to 8 a day. How long should i stay at a dropped dose until i am there? | 16mg to 4mg wasn't even noticeable for me. | {
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doc_29_Madhu | ug20jh | taking-moud | 17 hour in to WD from hydros /percs. 17 hours in and I really am hurting headache cramps weak feeling chills and really want to just go grab some pills when can I induce the suboxone | You did it! You’re through the hardest part; you’ve got this now. If you’re not feeling worse, then it’s a good sign that you’re going to start feeling a lot better! | {
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doc_92_Omar | M989 | taking-moud | Fentanyl How quickly can someone take a piece of subutex when WD off fentanyl? I personally only used H and got on Suboxone. I know it’s a heck of a lot different but trying to help out my brother. Any stories or advice would be great! | I would really advise at least looking into inpatient detox. It is just so hard to get the days clean from fent to be able to take sub- often 3-5 days for street fent. Call SAMHSA's national hotline and ask for the local number, then call that for resources near you. I was unemployed and uninsured last year and got my treatment fully covered. If that's not possible, try the Bernese method, a lot of people here swear by it. | {
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doc_25_Omar | voue0c | taking-moud | Should I go on Suboxone Just to minimize cravings.. Im a polysubstance drug addict. It’s important to note I am not physically addicted to anything but kratom. Every time I’ve tried to quit the cravings are immeasurable. It’s gotten to a point I don’t ask IF I’m going to relapse. To WHEN I’m going to relapse. I know suboxone is mainly for opiate cessation, I figure it would help with cravings too. I’d definitely rather have a safe supply of a “safe” medication, than be in the constant craving-relapse cycle. Would It be worth it to use Suboxone just for cravings and as relapse prevention? | I switched from Kratom to suboxone. I have experience with all drugs but Kratom was my main addiction. Suboxone definitely helped reduce my cravings for Kratom and most drugs in general. Honestly at a high dose it completely stopped any cravings. I think switching would be a good move for you. | {
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doc_4_Omar | qrzj7i | taking-moud | PSA: Numb the area with a large ice pack when getting the sublocade shot in order to avoid pain.. Just like the title says, if you put an ice pack on your belly and numb the area really well you will not feel a thing. I had a decent sized one and held it on the side I was getting the shot on for a solid 10 minutes and didn’t feel any pain whatsoever when I got my shot. My skin was a little red from the cold but it really works and solves the only negative (I think) with getting the shot. | My dr sprays some kind of cold spray on the area before, and it still hurts like a bitch! I go back on Monday, i may just ice it the whole way there!! Thanks for the tip! | {
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doc_66_Joey | P_T206 | tapering | I can't get off this fucking shit Every time I try I just fail. I get the restless legs in my arms and it fucking drives me insane. If this was like dope and it was a 4 day kick I could do it but this sub withdraw lasts forever. I don't wanna be on this shit for my life but I cant for the life of me get off it. | Day 8 here. Sleeping only a few hours a night. I have comfort meds, but they aren't as comforting as I would like! Restless legs, my back hurts and I do feel like ass. However, my MIND feels more clear and that's what is keeping me going. Hope you feel better soon. | {
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doc_64_Joey | C168 | relapse | Suboxone and driving Hello there I'm new to the world of Suboxone. My former partner is titrating off oxycodone and onto Suboxone. He is certainly not safe to drive our children around on the oxycodone, having gotten in multiple at fault accidents, will that be a concern at all on the suboxone? | He needs to get through the initial adjustment and settle at a proper dose. If his dose is too high he could get sleepy easily. I split my dose throughout the day because if I took it all at once, in the morning, I'd be asleep. Less is more, there isn't any need to start at 24mg, even 16mg is almost ridiculously high to me. My SO has many at fault accidents of his own, on various substances, in the past but never on sub. | {
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doc_103_Omar | M571 | taking-moud | can i put 4 strips under my tongue together? Hey guys ive always taken 8mg tablets. But switched to strips. If im taking 8mg and i have 4 2mg strips, can i put all 4 under my together or do i have to do it 1 by 1? thanks everyone 🙏🏼 | In the actual Suboxone literature if you take more than 2 strips to let 2 dissolve then take the others, it also says if you take 2 to place 1 strip to left and right of middle of your tongue and try not to let them touch. This is all technically so IDK how much it really matters. | {
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doc_34_Tanzia | q7b49m | taking-moud | Will water flush suboxone out of my system?. I am starting a MAT program today because I no longer have a psychiatrist that can prescribe my suboxone. I take 32 mg daily and have for 2.5 years. I took up smoking the devil's lettuce upon my leaving sober living. I am not sure how leaf friendly this program is. However my insurance covers it and it is walking distance from my apartment. So.......I should be fine right? I've never had a problem with my subs showing in my urine and I drink a whole freaking lot of water on the daily. The difference is usually it's about a gallon spread out over an entire day and not all at once like this morning. | So your not flushing it out. You are diluting the concentration by drinking a lot of water. This method can and will work for any drug. Just drink a TON of water, make sure urine is clear lol. God I'm so glad I dont have to worry about that shit anymore. Constantly drinking and almost pissing myself everyday. | {
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doc_13_Madhu | vt2m3y | taking-moud | Question. If you’re just starting subs and start at 4mg and just want to taper off an opiate. Can you do down 1mg every week and Jump off after a month? I just want to be down with all opiates. | I'm sure someone else will comment but you wanna try to get off before a month to make sure you have less withdrawal basically. However I don't recommend that short of term MAT program unless you are 100% sure you are not gonna relapse. If you are 99% sure you won't then I'd recommend staying on subs for a year or so tops. If you stay on it longer there is ways to taper too I am doing it right now! Otherwise I think it would be more of a week/2 week thing tops something called a "rapid taper". Anyway best of luck to you and I hope you do what is right for you! | {
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doc_35_Tanzia | w3xdpa | relapse | Starting back suboxone. Can anyone help me understand the timeline of being off fent/H before starting back on suboxone? I’ve relapsed for a month now and want to get back on track. However- I don’t want to hit precipitated withdrawals in the process! I know they say 24 hrs., but I want to be certain! Any input is needed! I’ve got my full script from last month, I just need to know when to start. It’s tricky, because I don’t have many body aches/chills/RL, it’s mostly mental. | Waiting 24 hours and starting with 4 mg sounds risky. More like 1 mg or less. But here is a protocol that doesn't involve waiting: [ You start with .5 mg bupe while still taking fentanyl. Over the next few days, go down on fent and slowly up on bupe. Under the waiting scenario, taking 4 mg to start could lead to a bad outcome. | {
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doc_2_Madhu | qx0rna | relapse | Smoking weed on subs. Do you toke up w subs [View Poll]( | If I smoke some green an hour or two after taking my dose, it definitely makes me feel blasted | {
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doc_52_Joey | gaaxz4 | relapse | When can I take my next sub?. So yesterday I took 4 mg of suboxone because I was in heroin withdrawal because my plug was hours late (per usual) I had some suboxone laying around so I took half of an 8 mg strip. My plug came through about 6 hours later and I did the dope. The subs didn’t block the effects of the dope which is crazy to me because I thought it would. Anyway, I did my last sub yesterday at 12 PM and then my last dose of dope about 3 hours ago. When will it be safe for me to take another half of a sub to avoid withdrawals now that i’m out of dope? | The fact you felt the dope on subs makes me wanna chip and just cop a bundle of fent and see if it works if not 30 bucks wasted whatever I mean I’m on 16 mg a day big difference from 4 but who knows | {
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doc_63_Omar | t5kzw5 | relapse | Suboxone THC. I have Kaiser and and wondering if my doctor will discontinue me for having thc in my system? I’ve never failed a test been on subs 3 months with them. Anyone have experience with KAISERs policy? | Damn that sucks. My doctor has always said no drugs, but weed is a different story. Never been an issue at both clinics I was at. | {
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doc_79_Tanzia | C380 | relapse | Who here uses Cannabis along with what ever type of bupe you take? Has it helped or hurt your recovery? I’d like to see where people are with this? For me Cannabis x with CBT Therapy x Suboxone has done wonders for my recovery. | I like rso or some good indica, or edibles. Sometimes i forget to take my subs or i find myself talking much less Definitely helpful. | {
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