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"body": "To answer your first question: I'd play the shit out of any RDR3. I also think I speak for 99,99% on here that they would also play the shit out of any RDR3.",
"body_html": "<div class=\"md\"><p>To answer your first question: I&#39;d play the shit out of any RDR3. I also think I speak for 99,99% on here that they would also play the shit out of any RDR3.</p>\n</div>",
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"body": "I'd play a game as Sadie, picking up where we left off in the epilogue. We follow her bounty hunting days only to find out she's been betrayed by one of her deputies, and Edgar Ross was behind it. We then journey with her throughout the Wild West, extending to Mexico, where she could meet an old friend. Somehow, we are then taken to Little Marston's timeline right after he kills Ross, and we chronicle his journey to tie up all loose ends to finish completing his book about the van der Lined gang and the west",
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"body": "Nope. I'd like another RDR game, but most certainly not with a young Dutch. Hosea? Sure? Jack? Sadie? Charles? Absolutely. But no, I wouldn't want to play as Dutch.",
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"body": "Yeah - it would have be in 1911 so we\u2019d be able to be there for Dutch\u2019s death. But his death wasnt a redemption and those last years of his life definitely weren\u2019t. Also who would we play as after?",
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"body": "I\u2019d love to see a storyline exploring Dutch\u2019s mentor and their redemption arc. It could delve into Dutch\u2019s upbringing and his mentor\u2019s journey from being an outlaw to trying to \u2018right his wrongs.\u2019 As a proper mentor, he could share lessons through stories\u2014playable flashbacks where we get to rob trains and engage in classic outlaw activities. Over time, he explains where he went wrong, starting as someone who stole from innocent people but later targeting only other criminals. His eventual death could serve as a pivotal moment, leading us into the epilogue where we play as Dutch, shaped by those teachings.",
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