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[ [ "Make sure you join pdrm and leverage on your finance skills. Demand for this skill combination is high as compared to the normal cops." ], [ "Theres a police guy that lurks here, forgot his name. Anyone remember can tag him here.", "Do you think he is handsome ?", "Emmm.... sounds like a trick question. I refuse to answer. Hahaha", "That means youre shy. So if youre shy, its a yes ;)" ], [ "Can I ask what's the source of your enthusiasm to joining PDRM?", "I think you can directly be inspector if you have Degree.\nUnless they changed something.\nJust asking because cops are pretty hated and commonly seen as just bribe takers amongst malaysian. No disrespect to your enthusiasm I hope you're the type to change it.\nJust find it interesting because of all the people I met, no one voluntarily taken police as their first choice in vocation.", "I think you can directly be inspector if you have Degree.\nYes. They ain't letting you be a constable from a degree.\nSPM leavers will enter as a constable, Diploma(and maybe STPM) holders will become sargeants, and officers will be degree holders.", "Something that I inspired to be since high school. In fact I wanted to take law to proceed easier on becoming police but I too bodoh and lazy at highschool and choose finance as my second degree option and decided to proceed with it." ], [ "If you applied as a constable your starting pay would be rm1441 basic , with allowance and all that, first year probably around rm2300. But more if you in balai police or PGA depends on branch.\nWell IMO if you want to join pdrm for better pay, i suggest you continue your degree and work as a banker instead. Gov pay is stable but not alot. In the words of my sarjan : nak kaya tak ada , cukup2 makan saja\nBut its up to you in the end", "Thanks dude" ], [ "OP are you currently studying in public university? Most public universities have SUKSIS, which is like ROTU for police. A junior of mine joined during her 1st year and was conferred the inspector rank before graduating. She then joined PDRM for good right after graduating, but still had to pass basic police training at PULAPOL.", "Nope not pubic uni" ], [ "If you're really interested, u/IStickStuffsUpMyButt can probably give you some pointers." ], [ "I think once you had your degree you can start at inspector rank. (Sauce: sister is a policewoman who had a degree and started with inspector rank)" ], [ "That really depends on how they perceived you, If they think you are good, you will instantly be interviewed to enter SB." ] ]

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[ [ "Consult a lawyer" ], [ "", "Thank you! I’m glad there are many resources available for my partner. I’m just unsure how else to make J accountable as these things happened when my partner was in Pre-U. When she started her degree abroad here, all he did was watch stories of secondary accounts of projects my partner was involved in. I’ll have her look into these. Thank you so much." ], [ "Some of the actions you mentioned can be considered stalking, such as frequent unwanted contact (whether thru DM or the confession pages, though the latter will be hard to prove it’s him)\nAs for the bit where he “coincidentally” caught her laughing with her friends, straight up creepy behaviour bro. Can be considered as following her?\nThe other deeds described like harassing the victim’s contacts to find her again unfortunately don’t fall under the new Anti Stalking law’s criteria. It’s otherwise vague in a lot of areas, so I can only wish you luck in wielding that when you make a police report", "His excuse was that his group of friends were in the eating area. From my partners account, she didn’t see him neither did her friends. I’m not sure how to prove that but there are screenshots of him messaging said mutual friend in her group that she was laughing at him…" ] ]

[ "Tourism & Travel" ]

[ [ "Not Johorian but travel enough with CW before.\n1) Just like SBST , you need to press the button to tell the bus driver to stop at designated area (sometimes the bus driver will stop at non-designated stop but don't quote me on that , you'll have to ask Abang driver nicely)\n2) Boarding location of CW3 can be found in this website\n3) I sat CW3 before and can confirm that going towards Bukit Indah, Anjung Medini does not have a physical bus stop but passenger still press the button and get off opposite of Anjung Medini.\nIf you have other questions, you can DM me.\nI have learn all of these by sitting it through myself all the way, I am not quite sure how others find out about it but I sure hope someone made a forum about it to help others with CW bus and transits." ], [ "Drivers won't ignore if you flag early and clearly. Bus stops for return journeys are usually on the opposite side of the road. So long Causeway Link lists a stop, they will stop on request.", "Thank you." ] ]

[ "Politics" ]

[ [ "The Tamils might make up 85% of the total number of Indians but overall Indians only make up 6.6% of the total population. They're not strong enough to have the political pull or weight behind anything. When paired with others non Malays, there's a fighting chance. I don't think identity and race political are the future for the Malaysian Indians. They'd be much better off fighting for the right of all non Malays, non Muslim, since it becomes a bigger group, with a louder voice that ends up benefiting them.", "In my opinion Indians here have a better chance of just focusing on uplifting themselves via education. Similar to the Indians in the US and UK, look how successful they are. In the UK, they are the number 1 landlords, US they are dominant in medicine, IT and NASA. Esp the tamils.\nHave to think like a true blue immigrant. Work hard, study hard, uplift the next generation and onwards. Then when you can control something aka chinese via the economy, then your voice will carry weight. Now nobody cares or respects the indians in this country. Can't even rent a home...", "Most of the Indians in the UK and US who became rich were already upper-middle class or above before emigrating to those countries.\nThis isn't true for Malaysia Indians, a lot of whom were lower-caste rubber tappers.", "Such an ignorant comment. The Indians in those countries don't have to work against the system that is present here. How is that they are successful in every other country except here." ], [ "There were two, right. Kula is still technically a Minister (arguably a more important portfolio now), while the other one was corrupt and got sacked?", "Kula is just a deputy and cannot attend cabinet meeting", "\"The other one was corrupt\", in an otherwise really clean and competent cabinet." ], [ "Make up your mind if you want systems to be based on racial quotas or by meritocracy. Stop shifting the goal post as you want.", "six imagine kiss tart doll grey whole command quiet books\nThis post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact", "You wish to get rid of quota systems in public services and education, but you want quota system in parliament?", "But it's not rid of yet, and is never getting rid of", "So instead of progress , you want to revert to race based politics? You think a candidate can win without votes from different races? Sure, let's vote base on race. Chinese vote for Chinese, Malays vote for malays, Indians vote for Indians. You think we will have Indian MP in parliament?", "Bro, wanting representation or diversity is not racial politics, ok? It is laughable to think that Anwar's cabinet members are picked based on merits alone. If it is, Lim Guan Eng's sister shouldn't take the deputy finance minister's position.", "You think only person of same skin color can represent you?🤣🤣🤣🤣\nSo you want a health minister each specifically for Tamil, Malay, Chinese, Kadazan Dusun, Dayak, etc.\nSo based on your logic, if a minister is from Indian ethnicity, he won't provide fair policies for Kadazan Dusun, Dayak, etc. So why should I support that?", "Why do you assume that I'm an Indian? If I'm not Indian, I cannot support inclusiveness kah? Many minorities including Chinese made noise during the Muhiyiddin cabinet era for low minorities representation, why the double standards when it's happening to Indian alone?\nSo based on your logic, if a minister is from Indian ethnicity, he won't provide fair policies for Kadazan Dusun, Dayak, etc. So why should I support that\nNo, no that's not my logic. My point is that since the ministers were not selected based on merits alone, it should render the meritocracy arguments moot.", "I am using it as an example. Since the focus of the discussion is on Indian Tamil.\nAnd as you recognize the selection is not based on merits alone. Then why not push for a better meritocracy system instead of falling back to race based appointment?\nI am all for protecting minority's rights and culture. But going back to race based politics is a regression.", "Because humans are tribal and prone to bias in making judgement. People like to say that they are fair and race blind but if we scrutinize ourselves and our community a little bit, you would often see that our bias and prejudice based on our background would affect our judgement and decision making. It's one of the reasons why there are many conflicts between the civil service and the Chinese community. The civil service is Malay dominated and the values that they espouse are very different from the Chinese community. Besides, this is the parliament of the country, so a little representation to reflect the actual demographics would be seen as welcoming. I'm not calling for a strict racial -based quota though but some diversity is very beneficial and good for resolving conflicts between different communities.", "Umm apa?\nYou know Anwar can just pick right?\nHe already did for a bunch of his friends, why not pick one for the Tamils", "What apa? So Anwar should pick cabinet based on skin color?", "He already said PM will always be based on skin colour\nThe vast majority of current ministers are based on politics,\nBut picking one Minister to present minority is too much of crossing the line for you?\nOnly care about integrity when Minority is involved huh", "Orh, only fair when your skin color is selected. Cannot let other races serve you. Right. Sounds like you are those racists goons from all kinds of races in Malaysia.\nKeep up the good work. 🤣", "only fair when your skin color is selected\nExcept like i repeat few times already to you, the game is not fair, and will never be fair, this is literally declared by our beloved PM\nA partially enforced meritocracy is actually just aristocracy in everything but name", "LOL OK guy, just give up your privileges first.", "Lol, my privilege? What privilege?", "Your written Malay is shit. So I assumed you're Malay.", "🤣🤣🤣 Maybe you should just get good in life." ], [ "We Mallus and Telugus have had Tamils and Punjabis representing our voices in parliament for decades yet we never complained. It's such a trivial matter and it shows how people prefer tribalism to Malaysian prosperity\nOf course, we do not necessarily need a Malaysian of Tamil heritage to look after the interests of the Indian community. Ultimately, aren’t we all just Malaysians, regardless of our heritage?" ], [ "\"Would any other majority community in Malaysia accept a person of a different faith to look after their religious needs, language wishes, as well as their theological and cultural issues?\"\nHonestly, yes. While DAP is not a Chinese party by design, DAP appreciates diversity and fair minority rights, and are seen by many Chinese as a viable alternative to MCA in protecting minority Chinese rights. DAP for years were led by banana chinese n christians (I believe). Even many of the MCA leaders are bananas and Christians too." ], [ "Tamils can just form another party called Malaysian Tamil Separatist etc to be elected in Parliament and join the winner, PH or PN", "I don't think I've heard anything more cringeworthy than a Malaysian Tamil Separatist party", "Malaysian Tamils want exclusivity to represent Indians but Indians are more than Tamils" ] ]

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[ [ "Do they taste different?" ], [ "Good, so that we don't be dependent to India and the fun part is these 2 county sometimes don't have good relationship with India", "Chinese Onions are much milder than red onions from india", "Not sometimes. It’s consistently not having good relationship with each other’s" ], [ "Will the price drop?" ] ]

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[ [ "Usually you are left behind there. If you are lucky, your body becomes a marker for climbers. Like a signpost to go where or a landmark that you have reached X sbot." ] ]

[ "History" ]

[ [ "Attempting to slow the sun setting on its colony in Southeast Asia, London sent thousands of British and Commonwealth troops to suppress a local movement fighting for independence in the aftermath of World War II.\nLim was just nine years old when his father, a hardworking ethnic Chinese supervisor at a rubber plantation, was gunned down in a hail of bullets along with 23 other innocent workers in what is still known to this day as the Batang Kali massacre.\nThe British troops who carried out the massacre tried to cover up the atrocity by accusing their victims of being involved with the Communists fighting for independence.\nThe truth would surface years later as journalists, researchers and court hearings attested to the innocence of those killed by British soldiers in Batang Kali.\nTo this day, however, there has been no redress or official apology from British authorities, who have resisted calls to open an enquiry into the massacre that took place 75 years ago this week.\nThe campaign for an official inquiry has taken advocates from London’s High Court to the Court of Appeal and Supreme Court, and onto the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg." ], [ "The British must apologize and compensate victims" ], [ "A false flag operation, to blame all the other political party except UMNO" ], [ "Expecting British to apologise for the mess they created? Hahahahaha" ] ]

[ "Politics" ]

[ [ "It's funny he says only malay can be PM then that means Kadazans, Ibans and other non malay bumis are automatically disqualified as well.", "technically he didn't claim verbatim the title.\n“So far, there’s no need, no serious discussion (on any amendment),”\nis what he's reported saying. He basically sidelined the topic as diplomatically as possible.", "“So far, there’s no need, no serious discussion (on any amendment),”\nThis should have been included in the headline. The current headline suggest that Anwar seem to agree with Ahmad Fayhsal. But you know gotta attract those \"headliners only\" readers and sow negative narratives. Disappointed that the star also starting to resort to this meta.", "news sites need their clickbaits", "Mahathir is Mamak.\nAnd Zahid is Indonesian" ], [ "And your answer to this also will create dispute LOL\nShould just let the issue died down instead of answering it", "He will have to answer this no matter what, he is the PM.\n“So far, there’s no need, no serious discussion (on any amendment),”\nI think he gave the best answer he could give at this moment", "I'd rather he answer to whether we need to wear long pants when entering public establishment or not.", "Wear sarung if in doubt", "Petition for everyone wear sarong after step out of house, because rukun negara. Kesopanan dan kesusilaan and what not.", "Exactly, most of the us nons don't give a whack about who can be PM, we just want a competent government.", "He was asked after a Friday prayer session. What's he gonna do?\nIf he said \"no comment\", that'll also create a dispute..." ], [ "Bloody moron took the bait. Lmao", "BANGI: There is no need for the Federal Constitution to be amended to ensure that only Malays can be Prime Minister as the post will always be held by the majority race, says Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim.\n“Either from the government or the Opposition bloc, the prime ministerial candidate will be Malay.\n“So far, there’s no need, no serious discussion (on any amendment),” he said after performing Friday prayers at the Al-Kauthar Mosque in Bandar Baru Bangi yesterday.\nThe Prime Minister also reminded the Opposition not to play up issues that could create racial disharmony or disputes.\n“Let’s instead move forward, safeguard the rights of the people, and protect the interests of all citizens, all ethnicities, and all regions,” he said.\n“Of course, the Federal Constitution has rules, and this is not an issue, and it has never been an issue. So, let’s not complicate things.”\nBersatu Youth chief Wan Ahmad Fayhsal Wan Ahmad Kamal had earlier called for a constitutional amendment so that only Malays can become prime minister.\nHe made the call following DAP veteran politician Tan Sri Lim Kit Siang’s post on his blog limkitsiang.com titled “Malaysian Constitution provides for a Malaysian Dream and not a mono-ethnic dream as it provides that a non-Malay can be a Prime Minister”.\nAnwar said the matter of redelineation raised by the Opposition was also a non-issue.\n“They just want to create a dispute, make people more upset,” he said of claims that the Malays will lose power through the redelineation due in 2026.\nAnwar said the Opposition bloc should focus on finding ways to strengthen the country’s economy and alleviate the burden on the people.\n“Find other means to help boost the economy and alleviate the people’s burden. Don’t just keep causing trouble, aren’t you tired?” he added.\nHere is the news content, stop getting baited by sensationalized headlines and read the entire thing before giving your judgement. Please I beg you.", "Dude i read the article before I commented, the best response is not to give a fuck to trolls, especially a moron which solution to combat economic hardship is to print more money and distribute it to citizens. Dude spews garbage on a regular basis.", "The thing is though, the reporter asked him, so Anwar has to respond. Imagine if he just \"sorry I dont wish to respond to that\". It's open season for interpretation, nons will say wow Anwar can't even respond to that, I knew he was always a Malay supremist!!!!. certain Malays will say wow, anwar is not responding means we might get a NON PM, riot riot, cina mind controlling anwar blah blah, threatening our livelihoods yadayada.\nHence the long ass reply by Anwar is the most diplomatic response possible. It ain't a moron falling into a trap lol\nThanks though for atleast reading the article before commenting though, might seem small but it's a important step for Malaysian to be able to better criticised what should be criticised instead of just blabbering \"haha gov bad, am i right :26554:\".", "The thing is though, the reporter asked him, so Anwar has to respond. Imagine if he just \"sorry I dont wish to respond to that\". It's open season for interpretation,\nYeah, you do have a point, good to have people like you around.", "Please refrain from using \"bloody moron\" as such title is exclusive to one individual, Fahmi. I request you amend your initial statement." ], [ "Whenever there is foreigner asking is Malaysia a racist country imma just show them this lol.", "BANGI: There is no need for the Federal Constitution to be amended to ensure that only Malays can be Prime Minister as the post will always be held by the majority race, says Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim.\n“Either from the government or the Opposition bloc, the prime ministerial candidate will be Malay.\n“So far, there’s no need, no serious discussion (on any amendment),” he said after performing Friday prayers at the Al-Kauthar Mosque in Bandar Baru Bangi yesterday.\nThe Prime Minister also reminded the Opposition not to play up issues that could create racial disharmony or disputes.\n“Let’s instead move forward, safeguard the rights of the people, and protect the interests of all citizens, all ethnicities, and all regions,” he said.\n“Of course, the Federal Constitution has rules, and this is not an issue, and it has never been an issue. So, let’s not complicate things.”\nBersatu Youth chief Wan Ahmad Fayhsal Wan Ahmad Kamal had earlier called for a constitutional amendment so that only Malays can become prime minister.\nHe made the call following DAP veteran politician Tan Sri Lim Kit Siang’s post on his blog limkitsiang.com titled “Malaysian Constitution provides for a Malaysian Dream and not a mono-ethnic dream as it provides that a non-Malay can be a Prime Minister”.\nAnwar said the matter of redelineation raised by the Opposition was also a non-issue.\n“They just want to create a dispute, make people more upset,” he said of claims that the Malays will lose power through the redelineation due in 2026.\nAnwar said the Opposition bloc should focus on finding ways to strengthen the country’s economy and alleviate the burden on the people.\n“Find other means to help boost the economy and alleviate the people’s burden. Don’t just keep causing trouble, aren’t you tired?” he added.\nYou gonna show them only the headline or the news content?\nHere is the news content, stop getting baited by sensationalized headlines and read the entire thing before giving your judgement. Please I beg you." ], [ "The clickbait headline geez" ], [ "the post will always be held by the majority race\nRacist", "Reporter: Dato seri memang sekarang tak ada keperluan untuk meminda perlembagaan?\nAnwar : Setakat ini, tak ada keperluan, tak ada pemohonan serius, tak ada perbincangan. \" Sejak merdeka sampai sekarang, calon PM Melayu, lepas ini calon Melayu dari kerajaan pun melayu, calon dari pembangkang pun Melayu.\"\nBANGI: There is no need for the Federal Constitution to be amended to ensure that only Malays can be Prime Minister as the post \"will always\" be held by the majority race, says Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim.\nYou tell me if both are same statement. After watching the clip thrice, where the fuck does the star even interpreted the \" the post will always be held by the majority race\"", "This post needs to be upvoted more for visibility.\nReally disingenuous translation from The Star.\nPutting the above BM quote that you have transcribed from the video into Google Translate yields the below:\nSo far, there is no need, no serious request, no discussion. Since independence until now, the PM candidate is Malay, recently the Malay candidate from the government is also Malay, the candidate from the opposition is also Malay.\nIf based on this translation, then NOWHERE does Anwar outright unambiguously say \"PM will ALWAYS be Malay\" or \"MUST be from the majority race\".\nHis answer is deliberately ambiguous, not the version provided by The Star which is quite unambiguous and insinuate that non-Malays can never be PM.\nIt can either be interpreted as\nit just so happens that the PM has always been Malay to this day (but there is nothing barring non-Malays from the post)\nMalays have never been denied the chance to become PM (thus PN freaking out about Malays losing their power if a non-Malay becomes PM is nonsensical)\nDisclaimer: I'm no Anwar fanboy, and I've been disappointed by his pandering to rural religious conservatives in an attempt to win their votes, which IMHO is a futile practice as it pissed off PH's urban and multicultural base while hardly budging PAS's ketuanan base.\nBut let's not go into sensationalism and be baited by misleading headlines and possible (deliberate) mistranslations.", "Quoted from the article verbatim\nBANGI: There is no need for the Federal Constitution to be amended to ensure that only Malays can be Prime Minister as the post will always be held by the majority race, says Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim.", "Textbook definition of a racist.\nThere is no \"Malay\" race. There is no \"Chinese\" race nor \"Indian\" race either. Those are all arbitrary social constructs.\nHis promise to bring all Malaysians together was a fraud. This guy is a con-artist.\n“All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the corruptible.”\n― Frank Herbert, Chapterhouse: Dune" ], [ "OK.... Since TAR, nothing great. Until a mamak came and grew the country despite his cronies which eh wait, started from jibby's bapak. Then ever since, Vietnam overtaking us and oh wait, Thailand overtook us. Continue with the melayu and by melayu the politicians mean geng kita sendiri first while the many pendatangs and capable malays are actually wanting to make Malaysia great but orang geng sendiri telan duit while pointing at pendatangs and blaming the more peaceful non hating malays by labeling them kafirs" ], [ "Actually he is smart. He does not want to create racial disharmony by ammending the constitution to say that only Malays can be PM in verbatim.\nSo he is telling his Malay boys “Hey dont worry too much, for the next forseeable future the probability of a malay pm is 100%”" ], [ "As expected, blood never lie", "You can keep reading about it all, are you inside the political party?", "Why do I need to be in a political party to obtain full context of something before making judgement on something? I don't care if it's LKS, Anwar, Hadi, Muhyiddin, Taylor Swift or you, if I have a bloody poor impression on something/someone the least I should do is to atleast get the context before making my judgment. If I don't have the bloody time to even read through the article, then by right I should not also have the time to comment.\nTake the Wan Fahysal, I saw Wan Fahysal news, went to look if he did, found the stupid tweet, then I critique. If he doesn't , then I don't critique. Basic human concept but I need to be in a political party to learn about it apparently" ], [ "Fucking racist ass" ], [ "Itu dia. The reply we all been waiting for.\nI would have just ignored it if I were him, rather than out this or that to my PN guys.\nIf my Yes Minister training is correct, you avoid the question by asking your own that is not relevant to the original" ], [ "I don't understand why are people flaming him. He did not say ONLY a Malay can be PM.\nIt's like you saying \"I will eat nasi lemak\". Does that mean you can ONLY eat nasi lemak and nothing else?" ], [ "Not even expecting a second answer", "Lets just pretend there will be no national uprising if somehow a non becomes pm" ], [ "What about Deputy PM ?" ], [ "With all the myriad of issues in this country..this is the conversation people are having. Currently holidaying for a month in Singapore, had never spent this much time here. The difference between their level of development and Malaysia is astounding. Note they have corruption and race issues too, bit they haven't entirely lost their collective marbles." ], [ "The headline is clickbaity, and Anwar's quote has very possibly been mistranslated.\nPlease read /u/Greedfall2 's post below, as he provides a more accurate translation of what has actually been said." ], [ "Will we ever get a Obama figure head in Malaysia?" ] ]

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[ [ "Honestly, I have no idea, but who the hell designed that road and bus stop such that the leftmost lane ends up in the bus stop?", "Its been like that for over 20 years. Place is Sandakan." ], [ "It's the fault of JKR (Jabatan Kerja Raya Malaysia). You just innocently added to the problem." ], [ "Oh shit another Sandakan person spotted." ], [ "lines white and dotted, should not be a traffic violation." ], [ "Looks fine. You weren't speeding and in no way were you driving recklessly." ], [ "JKR’s fault." ], [ "I dont understand the part of you entering the bus stop to circle around", "My bad. am trying to go around/going in circles around the area lookinng for parking", "Well, since im confused on what you are doing, im guessing the black car is in the same boat. Technically you are not wrong, but due to your action that caused the confusion is what led to that incident. As the black car didnt know what you were trying to do. He probably thought you were going to stop or slow down and he was already prepared to enter the left lane, thinking with his speed he will be able to cut you. But then you moved.", "Black car did not indicate when cutting left though. Both are at fault, but the black car is likely more at fault. Hard to judge but OP seems to already exit the bust stop area, then only black car tried to cut in." ], [ "Yeah you know you’re not supposed to go through the bus lane. You’re also supposed to look if there are any vehicle going into that lane before moving forward." ], [ "The only wrong I can see here is you're driving far too slow once you have entered the main road. You're endangering yourself and everyone around you with this kind of speed. You're barely making any effort to match the speed of the main traffic." ], [ "Your lane says give way, and you didn't. Yeah you're in the wrong." ], [ "Tak pelah jangan risau sangat kalau atas jalan raya ni...Kita tak tau ape orang pikir and orang tu pun tak tau apa kita pikir..Tapi aku rasa keta itam tu x aware dengan surrounding dia. Laju je nk tuka lane" ], [ "That pole at beginning gonna fell off soon" ], [ "Yes, but actually no" ], [ "Sia sia kena tuduh potong queue 😅" ], [ "i have been living in sandakan for almost 10 years and i have never used this bus stop to go straight. i usually go to the middle lane if i wanna turn into kim fung" ] ]

[ "Culture" ]

[ [ "Do you know that even Malay have their own “tribe”?\nBtw, there’s no stealing or anything going on. As a Sarawak Malay, I can’t and wouldn’t claim Kelantan/Terengganu/N.Sembilan/etc Malay culture as my own.", "Fr. There are similarities by having the same roots but in the end we have different dialects, mindset and clothing though minor", "One of the reason why federal assistance for West Malaysia felt more of a compulsory than voluntary for the past decades.\nGotta coat sugar on federal daddy by supporting their policies or else no funds for you." ], [ "That would just make bumiputra complicated.", "Then what about sarawak/sabah bumiputra? Theres plenty of chinese in sarawak that is bumiputra", "There are instances of chinese being labelled as bumis back in the older days cuz sometimes chinese peeps got kids and gave them away for adoption to tribes due to not being able to care for them. Then they make ic just claim bumi la cuz grow up with bumis. But that shit stopped like decades ago tho", "Can confirm bc my mom is exactly this.", "Same here my Muslim kampung adopted a ton of children (not all became Muslim) regardless they all got bumi status.\nThis isn’t the case anymore tho." ], [ "It's just like malay call cuttlefish, octopus and squid all as sotong. Its just easier.", "Cuttlefish: Sotong katak,\nOctopus: kurita,\nSquid: cumi-cumi.\nHope that helps.", "Thank f’n you!\nYou are forever blessed in all your endeavours relating to clan sotong-sotong.", "Isnt octopus called gurita not kurita?", "Yes.", "Both can be used.", "I've never seen it spelled with g before, always k", "I remember being a kid wondering why I have 3 different friends who look like 3 different races called Malay, none of them mixed btw. All their parents just are 100% “Malay”\nWhile I’m a chindian who has at times been told to go back to “my country”\nI still don’t know exactly how it works but it’s stupid", "Oh that. That's called Racism my boy :28915:", "It makes you feel better.\nGoing to have to drop the majority of my ethnic classification to a single ethnicity due to how mix many of east Malaysians are by government laws recently to simplify our ethnicities.\nI am an orang asal and yet very mix.\nI was always harassed unironically by people of immigrant descent or immigrants to go back to my own country LoL.", "Use bi-generation (Doctor Who reference)", "it's not just easier- it's an erasure of identity." ], [ "There's a difference between Melayu Jati and Melayu Anak Dagang among the Orang Melayu Malaysia\nMelayu Jati refers to the Malay tribes that established kingdoms in the land. Melayu Kelantan, Pahang, Kedah, Terengganu, etc.\nMelayu Anak Dagang are the Austronesian tribes who are Muslims, migrated and settled in the land that would become modern day Malaysia, intermarried and become assimilated, and eventually became Malayized (this is where the term \"Masuk Melayu\" comes in play). They wear Melayu clothes, habitually speak Bahasa Melayu, and practice budaya Melayu. So much so that they are considered as Melayu also. Although they might retain some aspects of their original heritage.\nThe modern day constitution does not differentiate between who is a Melayu Jati and who is a Melayu Anak Dagang.", "This is correct. This what I learn at my Uni.. already forget what subject it is.", "Where is this referred from", "There's three actually Melayu Jati, Melayu Anak Dagang and Melayu Peranakan, Melayu that are mixed with others like Melayu Cocos, Cape Malays and Melayu Betawi (although this one only in Indonesia)", "Please dont destroy our belief!\nAll malays import from Indonesia\n/s" ], [ "I'm just sharing a poem by Usman Awang, a Johorean. Probably it has to do with how Malays in the peninsular view the concept of race during the early Malay nationalism period.The was even an attempt by leftist Malays like Burhanuddin Helmi to form Melayu Raya (along with Indonesia) after the end of Japanese Occupation. British put a stop to that." ], [ "They aren't counted as malay, \"officially\" but they can change their race as Malay since Malaysia constitution refers the Malay as: \" orang Melayu itu mestilah beragama Islam, mengamalkan adat budaya Melayu, bertutur menggunakan bahasa Melayu dan (a) lahir sebelum hari merdeka sama ada di Persekutuan atau Singapura, atau pada hari merdeka telah bermastautin di Persekutuan atau Singapura\", so, most of the people from the races you stated (+ siamese) already changed their identity to Malay to gain \"bumiputera\" status and its privileges, or else their identity would just be \"keturunan Indonesia\".\nBut socially, people are still calling javanese, \"orang jawa\" most of the time, not happening to minangkabau and bugis tho, people will just call them malay", "Actually, it's just this current generation that doesn't. The previous generation would actively identify by their ancestors, whether bugis or minang or what not. My uncle-in-law would stand by the term of \"orang Bugis\" whenever got people asking our family \"orang mana dia tu?\" in earshot. Heck, even a slightly older friend of mine would call herself orang Minang.\nSo if you wanna blame someone for not referring to their ancestors, probably blame this generation instead.\nP/s: on paper, of course they would still be labeled Malays, it's easier that way for them. But vocally, they'd stand by whatever they are." ], [ "need to prop up the Malay numbers. cannot show that Malay is lesser than 50%", "😅👍" ], [ "I'm surprised no one brought up the 1998 riots or the 60s genocide yet to flame OP", "I believe the demographic of this sub is predominantly innocent to that knowledge, and history book didn't mention at all.", "Welp we had our own may incident tho not as tragic as the one happened in Indonesia" ], [ "Racial politics is different here" ], [ "Broadstroke categorization invented by the colonial brits when doing population surveys back in the days. We just inherited it and believed it lol.", "Inherited it, and continue to use it as a political tool to keep the \"majority\" numbers.\nBased on the Federal Constitution of Malaysia, Malay is a person who professes the religion of Islam, habitually speaks the Malay language, and conforms to Malay customs.\nBy that, anyone can become constitutionally \"Malay\".\nAlso, think about why they make it hard for converts to revert.", "You missed out one important context to the definition of Malay - they should also be a person who is born before independence day. So anyone born after that will follow their parents’ race.", "Farish A Noor has a chapter about this in his book What Your Teacher Didn't Tell You. He shows our original census having like 9 races for what we consider as \"Malay\" today. Great book 10/10 read.", "I see it as similar to classification of race and ethnicity in North America vs Europe. In Europe, Europeans identify as their respective ethnicity while in North America, Europeans identify as white. The white identity was crucial for Europeans to distinguish themselves from natives and Black people who they deemed inferior to them. Similarly, in Malaysia, the Malay identity was important to distinguish themselves from migrant races and possibly also because they view other races as inferior to them.", "The controversial ones don’t see the other races as “inferior” but rather as a threat to their lifestyle, wealth and religion as their leadership would have them believe." ], [ "The concept of Bumiputra is a scam when you know there's a tier even for Bumiputra. Thumbs up to the generation that votes the parties that screams Bumiputra whole year long /s\nThe party that screams the another card buys expensive cars and will let a newspaper company goes bankrupt by not paying will 100% be worse.", "Shallow minded people think racial class is everything. Reality is when you realize it's economical class that really separate people apart" ], [ "Easy ; put all under once category and then claim they are the majority and slowly rot away their original name, background and identity with one created by the ruling elites.", "Sounds like what the so called Communist, USSR did in their whole existence and failed.", "But I see a lot of people are coming to be more individualistic; they will claim their bugis/jawa roots then calling themselves malays.", "It's better if Malaysians starts recognising their heritage. We're a mixed pot of ethnicity. Don't let rulers divide us using the laziest excuse: RnR" ], [ "IMO there isn't much tribalism between Malays. Even the Mamak Malays. In the North there's lots of Mamaks but are Malays. They'll look 100% like any other South Indian but will be Bumiputera. This is because lots of Malays in the north had intermixed with Malays from Myanmar and Southern Thailand. This is why Northern Malays are diffrent from Southern Malays.\nIn the South, the food is more Southeast Asia toned such as Tempeh,Rebung,Rendang\nIn the North, our food is influenced by Indian Food such as Curry,dalca,roti canai,chapati,bihun sup,sup tulang.\nMalays in Kelantan create their own language,food and culture. For example akok cake,etc. Kelantanese Food is like a long lost Jungle Kind Malay Food with their own version of cheese.\nThis also kinda explains the election results.\nNo matter how Indian looking, white looking(me personally), if your dad/mom(citizen,etc many factor for mom) is a Malay, then you are MALAY." ], [ "Hello cultural genocide, nice to see you again :29091:", "To be fair it isn’t exactly a cultural genocide.\nFrom east Malaysia and from a “clan” of orang asal that was is partially malaynised. Our orang asal community tend to be very mix anyway so we often combine different cultures.\nThe vast majority of Bumi adopted part of Malay culture or some in full due to brotherhood. (In the east at least)\nFor my people, it was more brotherhood with east Malaysian Malays (indigenous Malays) and also more to integrate with west Malaysia.\nWe are way to mix of all ethnicity from European to etc so every has a sub section of something really different but in our core we have our orang asal culture and orang Melayu culture", "Elaborate what cultural genocide means specifically", "Indonesia is well known for their force assimilation policy. Chinese cant even have Chinese name or use Chinese language in everyday life in public sphere.", "This was abolished about 25 odd years ago so people can speak Chinese and use Chinese names now. But then again Chinese Indonesians still use Indonesian names and speak Bahasa Indonesia out of habit and convenience.", "They still do to this day? No apparently" ], [ "Numbers politics n identity politics. Without it their numbers are not enough" ], [ "Politics" ], [ "I think it's just political will back in 70s. My late dad was categorized as Javanese in his death certificate but was Malay in my birth certificate. I know someone who was of arab descent are also \"Bumiputera Malay\" in their IC and then proud that they only have Malay grandmother or something." ], [ "Singapore and Brunei also does this- in fact in all 3 countries' constitutions a Malay is someone who: 1. Speaks Malay \"habitually\"; 2. Practices \"Malay customs\"; and 3. Is a Muslim\nMy guess is that the British just decided to lump all Muslim pribumis as \"Malay\" (including Indian Muslims and Arabs) which probably was not something the Dutch did. Also Malay is the majority among the pribumis, unlike in Indonesia. So upon independence the Constitution (which was written by the British) maintained this." ], [ "I am of Pagaruyung descent.\nPagaruyung was called Malayupura at one point... did you know? Arguably, the true Malays are Minang and Riau people, from West Indonesia. We started with the kingdom of Malacca, founded by a Sumatran.\nFYI, Javanese are often NOT regarded as true Malays. They're often called Orang Jawa here. They still look Javanese (tanned skin, squared jaw, short). They cook and eat and sell Javanese food even to this day. Same goes for Bugis but most Bugis tend to drop their heritage and assimilate because they look less distinctive. Even to this day, we worship Hamka etc., still relevant culturally, and we have a lot of roads and places named after prominent Sumatrans who developed Malaysia in the early days." ], [ "Assimilation" ], [ "To be fair, anyone can be a Malay and Malay loves that. You can be a non-Asian but still be a Malay if you adapt the culture and live like a Malay.\nOf course, the final ingredient would be marrying a Malay.\n“But you won’t get bumiputra benefits!”\nThat’s where you’re wrong kiddo. I have seen multiple scenarios where non-Malay was identified as Malay just because they look like it. Some of them included a pure Chinese who just happened to look a lil bit darker & speak fluent Malay.\nHonestly, I’m not even mad.\nIf this is what it takes to unify Malaysia, so be it.", "I always see people said that among bumiputera, Malay are first class while others are second class… but if you think about it a second, it’s weird. Anyone can legally become a Malay. That’s mean the so called first class is actually open while the second class is an exclusive… That’s doesn’t make sense.", "The root of the problem is the mandatory religion, and it is a one-way street, you can't get out; however, you may choose not to practice, but still subject to some laws.", "People no longer see religion as a belief, they see religion as component in a system. Something that can be swap anytime. Unlike components, belief is hard to change. It’s either get stronger or weaker but not outright forgotten. That’s why the constitution placed Islam first in the definition of a Malay, because belief is the core of any human.", "My Uncle was a high ranking police officer and was Chinese. He was very tan and looked Malay also having great Malay obviously." ], [ "Mencapai definisi melayu; Islam, bertutur bhs Melayu, mengamalkan adat Melayu. Eventho they’re from different culture, they assimilated well with the malays. Ask any malaysian javanese what’s their breakfast today, or better “isuk tadi mangan opo?” Instead of pecel they ate nasi lemak.", "", "Bit harsh tbh. The person you're replying to didn't make those rules", "Your take is stupid, narrow and lacking forethought.\nI'm not the person you're insulting and I'm not Malaysian, but I think it's a bit less upsetting when you understand that all identities are partly made up and deeply contextual....\nto make a whole religion take an identity\nIndonesia does exactly the same thing in its own ways, as all countries do. For example, it doesn't matter what you believe, you're forced to accept one of the official religions on your identity card.\nI'm not defending how Malaysia uses religion and ethnicity in constructing its national identity, but its easily understood in historical context.", "Yeah they are not Malay in the blood. But have you read his comment properly? Malay is just an umbrella term for people of the same behaviour, religion, language and shit. Let's take your example, say you are an Indian but grew up in Germany, practice german culture, speak german and eat german food. People will consider you German but not ethnically German.", "That's the short version of what is legally malayu/bumiputra. It's not biological, but rather recognises cultural similarities. Same religion, same language, tradition, etc. As long as it's 70%+ similar at the time of independence. You can legally call yourself Malay/bumiputra status. Since this was fairly new after the war. Where most people lost their documentation and don't really have education on biology/race. So they basically round up most Muslim as melayu and any other orang asli group as bumiputera.\nNow it's base on parents bloodline. That's why melayu technically don't have freedom of religion and some don't look Malay due to mix with other race Arab/cina/Indian/etc.", "Hello, this comment was removed due to being in breach of reddiquette, specifically because it contained personal attack, insult, or threat. While opinions of all kinds are welcome under our shared roof, reddiquette sets the expectation that everyone speaks to each other with basic civility and respect:\nDon’t: Conduct personal attacks on other commenters. Ad hominem and other distracting attacks do not add anything to the conversation.\nDon't: Insult others. Insults do not contribute to a rational discussion. Constructive Criticism, however, is appropriate and encouraged.\nDon’t: Be (intentionally) rude at all. By choosing not to be rude, you increase the overall civility of the community and make it better for all of us.\nPlease treat this as an official warning - further such activity may result in a ban, thanks." ], [ "I heard a taxi driver in Batam speaking Malay like Malaysian accent, he claimed to come from somewhere in Sumatera. I think he is a pure Malay.", "yes there are Malays in Batam. Batam, Lingga and Riau used to be part of Johor empire not long ago.", "Southern Sumatran provinces of Riau Islands, Riau, Palembang, Jambi are the original Malay heartlands. Remember Parameswara came from Palembang, and he was from a long line of ancestors of the Srivijaya- a Malay empire.\nConversely the Majapahit was a Javanese empire." ], [ "The malays in Malaysia are based on the ethnicities of the Malay world which is an outdated term for the Austronesian realm which include the Javanese, the Bugis and etc. The word is used by the British due to group ethnicities in the Malay peninsula which is was and still a diverse place. We simply just inherited the term. It is no different than you guys inheriting the term Indonesian that was coined by the Dutch to refer to all ethnicities in the Dutch East Indies so don't act all high and mighty", "But indonesian is not ethnicity nor its how dutch refer us, its from british geography scholar. The term is neutral and refer to nationality ,if we inherited from dutch we will call ourself dutch east indies. Indonesia doesnt refer to a certain ethnicity if we are like you guys who refer all brown skinned muslim people as malays we’ll call it “javanese” because its the biggest ethnicity in south east asia but of course its wrong, so we call ourself indonesian which doesnt elevate certain ethnicity status\nMalays is not neutral term, its just specific term for ethnicity in sumatra and semenanjung and for censuses reason and lazyness , British starting to call brown skinned people of sea as malays, which is really wrong and misleading like you said.\nLooks the way of op the word is rude but it is pretty true how malaysia refer malays is outdated and misleading but its in your constituency law so as long as malay malaysian doesnt call brown Muslim people outside malaysia as malays and force “tamadun malay” or “great malays civilization “ and “malay race” which is not exist, we are fine with it but in reality some of malaysian think like that." ], [ "Racial politics and required inclusivity. When politicians are trying to invoke racial prejudice against the minority, it's easier to use the term \"Malay\" to include all the above mentioned groups. Being Malay is a privilege and has constitutional perks, so it's a win win situation for the politicians and the ethnic groups involved. Tun Mamak has been one of the fiercest champions of Malay rights, him being a Mamak of course.", "There's nothing wrong with being Mamak. Even PMX have Indian ancestry. We accept all kind in Malaysia", "Learn to read. Did I say there's anything wrong with being Mamak, Bugis, Minangkabau? I was answering the OP on why the tendency to include all \"tribal groups\" under the general umbrella of ethnic Malay, and why such groups overwhelmingly self identify as being Malay. If you think using the term Mamak is derogatory, that's on you, not me." ], [ "Ek eleh dia ni. Still have the mentality:\n\"Indonesia is the centre of the universe and the world should follow us\".\nIndonesia this Indonesia that...\nPshhhhhhh", "<image>\nUmmmmmmm yea" ], [ "Thanks to British Segregation, I guess?", "Nah. Just racism. Even Indo discriminates against full on Chinese since the old Dutch East Indies company days." ], [ "Just like what most malaysian think indian=tamil and by default people that celebrates deepavali", "Nah, most Malaysians do not think that. Many are aware of the difference between north and South Indian.", "That's confusion only exist in western countries by westerners.", "Nope, Malaysians are guilty as well for being ignorant with the different groups of people who call Malaysia their home. I find it a pet peave with Malaysians who are oblivious with this than some westerners.", "That sounds more like an issue of the people you surround yourself with.\nSkill issues. Yikes." ], [ "So that the “majority” is. So…" ], [ "I know that this question is rage bait, and OP is a bad faith arguer and not for actual discourse. But Indonesians need to realise the history of Malaysia, and the history of Indonesia are very different.\nAs per your example the Minang people, the Bugis and the Java people are still minang and still java in essence, but those tribes in Malaya has been \"malayanised\" to a point where their culture has been adopted and absorbed to the the greater Malayan Malay identity.\nThen, there came the colonial history. Unlike in Indonesia, the racial demographic of the local populace and immigrants brought in by the colonial authority wasn't as drastic as in Malaya during the same period. If we used the British census of 1911, the \"Malays\" made up 46.8 percent, while the Chinese and Indians were 34.7 and 10.1 percent of the population, respectively. This means the total amount of \"Malay\" and the total amount of \"Non-Malay\" were nearly proportionate in numbers.\nThis spark another point of social demographic in the way Malayan Malay society sees itself. If you think the feelings felt by Indonesians during your early period of independence against the Chinese were bad. Imagine when it also comes into play demographics.\nThus, \"Malay\" became a catch-all term for the tribes in Malaya. As a way to nurture a bigger identity, in a way, it is like an umbrella for this group to be under. They are still of Minang descent, Javanese descent, and Bugis descent but are now in a greater national identity for political reasons.\nJust like how there are Indonesian Javanese, Indonesian Minang or Indonesian Malay. It is another layer of umbrella terms used in Malaya for the sake of political cohesion. Thus, the term Malay is then referred to not only in a racial or tribal sense but also in a larger polity as well for political cohesion." ], [ "If you don't know, during 16xx there's a kingdom names Malay kingdom of Johor riau, in which consist of, Johor, riau,Jambi and kepri. This is why those decent from minang and javanese or bugis decent are considered as malay. They are in the Malay realm.", "and basically they speak the variant of the same language family" ], [ "If you like diversity so much why did you force assimilate the ID chinese?" ], [ "Because different country have different interpretation of what is a Malay.\nIf you think Malaysian Malay is too broad of a categorisation, check out how the Philippines defines a Malay.\nAlso, easier to govern. For example there are many Chinese subgroups e.g. Hakka, Hokkien, etc. but then it is easier to group them all as Chinese. Same goes with Malay, Indian, and Dayak groups.\nIn Malaysia we like to say \"cincai kira\". Which shows Malaysian tendency for simplicity and pragmatism. Whatever works, fine with us." ], [ "...because we all were malay? It's an ethnicity, right?", "Not really.\nMalay is both of an ethnic and racial group.\nEthnicity can be specific and they can be similarities however it also has sub ethnicity due to the major differences within a single ethnic group.\nRace on the other hand does not take into account genetics but rather culture and geography.", "And for many people there is no malay race, there are austonesian. “Malay race” is outdated term from british colonial era which is not exist", "You might be confused.\nThe Malay race has existed pre British era.\nEven then the concept there is no Malay race is blatantly wrong.\nYou are now confusing the concept of race with old European racism and racial category.\nModern concepts of race and the Malay identity has always existed.\nMalay as a race has always been about culture, language and beliefs. Ethnicity wise it’s about genetics.\nThis is how the Arab world is majority non Arab.", "No its not, “malay race” its just outdated debunked by many scholar because the existence and reason is doofus and has been ingrained to your country as segregation and reason for your “pride” of malay civilization. I am not confused.\nMalay as group of people in fact exist in the later phase of srivijaya and coming from jambi and south sumatra, and people later adapted as “group” name starting from there because the oldest melayu kuno prasasit is prasasti kedukan bukit from sumatra. It spread out to riau and then semenanjung\nAnd you know javanese sundanese bataknese and minang and all ethnicity in sumatra and java are far more older than malay and non of them refer themselves as “malay race”\nMalay race still just a tool from british to validate malay king at the time as proxy leader and census.\nYeas malay ethnicity is older than british colonization but not “malay race” because its never existed", "Brother you’re going down a rabbit hole without any level of understanding about race and ethnicity and also historical concepts of race.\nI am not Malay, I don’t identify as Malay. Now your coming to attack both affirmative action and indigenous rights two aspects adopted by the United Nations and many countries including the US, Australia and so fourth.\nJavanese etc are a different race I am not sure what aspect of modern race usage you are using but it’s completely wrong and not even the definition I have mentioned.\nMalay again just like Arab has been defined racially as both a geographical, linguistic, cultural and at times a religious group.\nYou are failing basic race concepts and understanding of modern race history. The Malay race as a concept traces back to the Malay Annuals long before European colonialism in the region.\nYou are using Johann Friedrch (who is not even British) definition of race which labels almost all of south east Asia maritime as Malay.\nThis is the outdated and wrong racial information you are using.\nInstead of yapping about a topic you have little understanding about with such confidence. Settle down and actually learn about modern race classification, historical, the difference between indigenous rights, affirmative action and segregation and so fourth.\nTo further add: if you are referencing the modern concept of Malay race in Malaysia in particular again it just came down to cultural, linguistic, religious and geographical aspects.\nIt was a sub variant of the already establish identity of the Malay peoples.", "Oh if its like that , i am really sorry for my misunderstanding, i am myself not exactly the believer of “race” and more like cultural group. The problem is whenever some people refer to “malay race” in malaysia is always like include us javanese, sundanese etc to bloated their number and pride. Which is wrong and ignorant thats what i refer to\nYes there is malay cultural group spread from palembang jambi riau and semenanjung", "That I can agree with. I am explaining in the Malaysian context and modern usage of race as a cultural group.\nThanks for the conversation.", "You too have a great day", "You do know many of javanese, sundanese approve of the assimilation right? Do you want to call it wrong and ignorant when both melayu jati and melayu dagang agree on the assimilation? Name me one event of forced assimilation of malays to the orang dagangs.", "No what i mean is javanese and sundanese in indonesia, not in malaysia and from what i know there is little to no immigration sundanese to malaysia only javanese. I am an indonesian javanese the bonafide one, if javanese who live long enough in malaysia choose to assimilate, sure no problem we called them as javanese “ jawa sing wes ilang jawane” mean “javanese whose already lost their javanese”\nWhat i refer is malaysian malay who always said the true javanese and sundanese and another ethnicity in indonesia as “malay” or “malay race” which is wrong and ignorant", "You have no idea what you're talking about." ], [ "k." ], [ "Sebab semua bumiputera, so no point beda2. As Muslims, it is important to be united upon Islam", "United?", "Unity" ], [ "You what's funny? Indonesia had a dream of annexing malaysia right away after British left and called it Indonesia Raya. By that point, if they manage to achieve their wet dream they'll just label everyone melayu nusantara.\nThe term isn't unique to Malaysia btw that's what your government want you to believe. See malay archipelago to understand what i mean." ], [ "because science said so\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy5ZvYUjmqY\nInfact from this study by USM prof has proven that all east asian people originated from the same mitochondrial DNA." ], [ "Username indicates OP is \"tak betul\"...jangan layan sangat" ], [ "It can be not as sinister as it seems. In Singapore it’s the same. In SG it’s not just Malays, Chinese regional language culture was also deemphasized. It’s a lot to do with practicality. Identifying and mixing with a bigger group is sometimes needed. Sometimes there’s just not enough people to keep traditions and language because they inter-marry. The important thing is whether the people themselves want to be identified as such. I think people from Negeri Sembilan identify as Malay and Minangkabau at the same time." ], [ "you dont know kah?\nthe country some outdated policy is to make everyone \"Malay\". You marry a Malay, you become a Malay regardless of your gender.\nIf you are not \"Malay Bumi & islam\", you downgraded second class citizen as stated in Constitution." ], [ "If I’m not mistaken, it’s because, on our road to achieving independence (with only Malaya jn 1957), it was easier to unite all these closely related Austronesian ethnic groups under one well-known “Malay race” label that the Europeans put us under than to use several different ones or to come up with a new one." ], [ "Same way how China is actively turning everyone into a single \"Han\" ethnicity, so it is easier to control." ], [ "If I’m not mistaken, all this tribes are Austronesian Family. Including Pinoy (Philippines). During British colonial era, they thought Malays = Austronesian Family.\nPersonally, I don’t really called Javenese, Pinoy, Minangkabau as a Malay but I prefer to called them as Austronesian family. Which different culture but similiar language and ancestors.\nIs like Chinese, Koreans and Japanese and many more are different cultures but share same ancestry" ], [ "becos they are lazy" ], [ "Could be an attempt at erasing the culture and identity of the native people here by grouping them all as Malay people." ] ]

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[ [ "Don't think he runs irl aside from the authorities" ], [ "Even PMX shows up lmao." ], [ "Not KL city skyline in the poster 😭 boikot lmao", "Well, on brand considering where he is rn (or, isn't)", "then u realized he’s been in Malaysia ever since" ], [ "The man isn't on the run. He's enjoying life, living life to the fullest without worries about moneh. While average Malaysian pulak......sigh" ], [ "poster design looks so bad =/" ], [ "why the red CCP flag?", "they think he is in china ( actually they said he is in in macao, but they dont know what the macao flags look like )" ], [ "I dont like this.\nthis is basically foreigners making a profit off our misery...", "isnt that just the history of Malaysia pre Merdeka? :26559:", "actually, isnt that like everyday everytime? like i bet someones happy for someone elses misery 😂😐🥲", "isnt it every VIP been doing the same", "This is ridiculous. What are you talking about? Is a story that can be told, exactly what the government and people don't want to do. That's exactly what a documentary is, tell stories that others don't want to tell. Keep looking to the side, that's exactly why Malaysia is going to where it is going..", "have you tried talking shit about other people's country in their face? they will tell you to stfu, and become defensive. but among themselves they talk shit about their own country all the time.\nits an unwritten rule in social interactions. people wont like you talking their country down. its only acceptable if you are from that country.", "Its not a dramatic film or series. Its a documentary. Maybe some UMNO or Najib diehardsw ill see this and have second thoughts." ], [ "For real?" ], [ "Jho Low 😬" ], [ "Is...this real?\nBruh...poster design is so bad." ], [ "Looking forward to it 😁" ] ]

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[ [ "you have never noticed lorries/buses/trucks only enter via the far left TnG at all tolls?", "But once they've reached to pay, how does the system knows if it's a lorry or a bus or a taxi?", "My FIL is a taxi driver. Usually the most left booth has someone to change the rate of each vehicle.", "My neighbour is a taxi driver and I had been his passenger before to go to KLIA and yes, can confirm that there is someone on the most left booth to change the rates for every vehicle.", "I believe the leftmost booth have people inside to differentiate vehicles category accordingly", "There are factor taken like vehicle weight, the height. Toll can also use camera to detect what vehicle enter and determine the charge. Im not an expert but this maybe can help" ], [ "I'm not sure. Most probably they uses the camera. The camera can capture the entering car and their machine learning algorithm can detect the type of vehicle and can apply the appropriate rate." ], [ "There are weight sensors just before the barriers" ], [ "The mystery deepens with vehicles of the same size as well, like how does the toll know the difference between a regular car and a taxi without human at the booth, cause I doubt they have fancy modern scanners or scales under the road that measures these things" ], [ "That is a good question.\nAll I know is that the TnG card that the driver use are provide by the company. So either the card will provide vehicle type to the toll booth or the price of top-up is different.\nOh yeah, didn't they need to use the left most toll booth and that toll booth will have operator operate them." ], [ "Logically TnG should be able to sort it hence why taxis can use the smart tag or TnG lanes. But practically a similar system to Singapore would've been so efficient.", "When singapore govt wanna collect money, its efficiency is at its peak. Our ERP never fails.", "Well convenience comes with a price. I'm happy to pay if it's of the corresponding value to me. But the ERP2.0 is serious joke unless they do away with road tax and since COE so high now.", "Exactly. Imagine the money pumped in for 2.0. So curious abt their cosr benefit analysis haha", "Iirc, they have to register your income to use that ERP toll. and many Malaysians don't want to admit cause they will then lose benefits of being a low income earner even though they have high income.", "No we don't have to" ] ]

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[ [ "Some factory operators were unwilling to surrender the land for drainage or road expansion in order to comply with planning permission conditions, he said.\nEvict and jail them", "I have seen this before.\nSome of the factories are built in such a way that the walls of the factory are inside the setback area required for a valid KM. They catch 22 in this manner.\nThey unable to get operating license, because it contingent on getting KM. They can't get KM unless the building complies with the setback and surrendering to get it legal.\nEasy to say to demolish the factory and ask them to rebuilt to spec, but it also affects people's rice bowl. Its why pemutihan with more considered rules are a thing now. PBT get their licensing and KM application fees, the factory gets to keep running.\nhttps://dewan.selangor.gov.my/question/pemutihan-kilang-haram-11/ additional reading incase." ], [ "Efforts to legalise the operations were initiated in July 2006 with the Selangor government taking the lead to facilitate the process but response was lukewarm.\nAbsurd. Sill not solved even after 17 years" ], [ "They dont care because the local government dont take any action. If i were them, I also wouldn't apply for a licence." ] ]

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[ [ "Me: Mom can we have AMEX Black Card\nMom: we got Amex black card at home.\nAMEX Black Card at Home:", "The politically correct term is African American Express", "Why not AMEx and be African Malaysia Express card?", "r/ATBGE" ], [ "Someone is going to start selling stickers of the colour scheme." ], [ "Touch ‘n Gold Edition", "C'mon gais why is this not upvoted more" ], [ "Still valid for 10 years?", "all nfc card is 7 years i think", "I see, never own NFC card before as my TnG card yet to expire lol", "Wait for expiry and get the NFC card free when exchange at the center.", "Really? Then I need to wait till 2031 😂" ], [ "Give me RM25 credit better hahaha" ], [ "Sold out edy", "Lazada still got on 14 days preorder. I just purchased.", "Can’t even find on lazada. Link please", "https://www.lazada.com.my/products/pre-order-14-days-enhancedtouchngocardxgolden-black-limitededition-i3882384495-s22459132209.html?trafficFrom=17449020_303586&laz_trackid=2%3Amm_150170571_51451294_2010401338%3Aclkgk2b5e1hhm91mocddpu&mkttid=clkgk2b5e1hhm91mocddpu&trafficFrom=17449020_303586&laz_trackid=2:mm_150170571_51451294_2010401338:clkgg5og61hhmhsvqa8hl6&mkttid=clkgg5og61hhmhsvqa8hl6", "ugh... just went out of stock... I bought it and replied here so it was available then", "Out of stock now, was in stock when I replied you\n<image>", "Scalpers: (heavy breathing)" ], [ "Scalpers be like “It’s free real estate”." ], [ "Amex Centurion for mahren." ], [ "Then... baki kurang... hahaha" ], [ "Style without substance" ], [ "If same function, just buy the card sticker, im very sure in less then 24 hours some seller will have the design already" ], [ "It’s still a plastic card. Make it metal.", "Contactless tech doesn’t work with metal.", "Revolut Metal has contactless feature. It can be done.", "Or made of gold", "Came in for this comment. Was not disappointed." ], [ "so Atas nia. Better than the one I get for Mission Greenpossible" ], [ "Card mahal dalam e wallet ade 3 ringgit" ], [ "Also known as a peasant's black card" ], [ "Legit question. Why does a touch and go card have an expiry date?", "It's a dumb money making rule, my Korea T-Money card has no expiry and keeps the balance for 6+ years without link to any app." ], [ "Function semua sama?" ], [ "Hello people of Reddit. Iam from Sarawak, and our highway is toll free. So apart from easily paying tolls , what are the different between enhanced TnG card and TnG visa card?", "As stated, VISA support visa payment, be it online or overseas. Enhanced equipped with NFC which allow you to top up using your phone if supported." ], [ "shut up and take my money" ], [ "I’d buy it if it was really made out of metal. 😂" ], [ "When u use too much touch n go you unlocked a gold touch n go card" ], [ "Just buy a black sticker for card" ], [ "Other than the clout, is there any other benefit of it?", "sorry i want to know as well" ], [ "Don’t waste your money on this" ], [ "can confirm touch and gate open? 0% error ??", "Got such thing as error? Usually tak cukup duit in the card kan?", "The errors are not bad" ], [ "ni lah agaknya yang dimaksudkan shit covered with sprinkles. dah lah nak top up pakai NFC tu mustahil. stress aku.", "Aku tak pernah fail topup guna NFC", "Isu kemahiran", "kek", "Apa problem tu? Setakat ni aku pakai elok je nak topup", "My topup never have problem.", "What you mean mustahil? Okie je boleh je topup hahaha", "So far the replies say they have no issues myself included.. I think the issue is you", "Kau pakai fon apa? Flip?", "+1, beli la 1, mungkin ini better untuk topup" ], [ "color nice, quite elegant but that's all I guess, unless there's specialty come with the limited edition title.\n:26556:" ], [ "damm it looks really good but it dont have special discount for penang bridge tol so i will stick with my old card😂" ], [ "Is this plastic or metal?" ], [ "Made for people who will never have a black card in their life.\nStyle without substance." ], [ "Weird parking flex but okay…" ] ]

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[ [ "Student dentists tend to be very careful and thorough. They're not bad dentists, just inexperienced, and the more patients they see, the better they become. I've had friends and relatives get treated by student dentists. All good, at a fraction of the price. Their work is constantly checked on by their lecturer, who is a professional dentist." ], [ "I did wisdom tooth extraction from SEGi University.\nThe price is damn cheap compared to private dentist (was quoted 1.5k++ from private). The cost of extracting my wisdom tooth is RM88 (mind you my tooth had to surgery remove). Registration is RM25, Scaling I think is RM15. They do have XRAY for teeth but I did mine from private.\nRecommendation?\nOh yeah, go for it.\nExperience / process:\nSo my experience from SEGi was relatively nice, I did my extraction around post covid 2021, so the waiting period is about weeks/months (I was a student at the college as well) because lots of their practical time slot clashes with my lesson. And also, no walk-ins was allowed too (not sure now since I graduated).\nAnyway, I remember signing a paper (maybe allowing myself to be documented) before the checking start. The student will interview my diet, eating habits, often brushing my teeth, using any oral care tool and the way I brush my teeth. Then do oral scaling to build a report to show their lecturer before proceeding. Once done, they'll request to have the next appointment within the same week.\nOn the day of the operation, sat at their operation theater waiting room, get called by student, enters the theater, greeted by the doctor supervisor then doctor will brief the procedure. After getting dressed,the student provide mouthwash to me and both student and doctor having discussion. The student administered anesthesia to my gum near to the wisdom tooth and the operation starts. The doctor was watching me and the student like a hawk while the student is doing the procedure. Both doctor and student were constantly communicating about terms I don't understand, kinda feel save imo because the student knew what she's doing. Took about 40 min of torture, wisdom tooth was extracted but I wasn't allow to take it back with me because they will use it for other students to do the repair job at the simulation theater. She stitch my wound and briefed me to avoid the stitched area while consuming food, and I exited the theater.\nStudent told me to come back 2 weeks later for final checkup. Paid the fees at the counter and the counter lady gave me a meds prescription and redirected me to the clinic section (Behind cafeteria) and paid RM22 for pain relive tablet and paracetamol. 2 weeks swung by, met the student in the dentistry. After confirming I had no pains or swelling then she check the wound for infections. Since no sickness or painful at my mouth area, she removed it the stitch and I thanked for her hard work." ], [ "A bunch of my family members went to PPUM for dental appointments. The students doing braces, crowns and root canals have been satisfactory so far. They need the patients to graduate and its always under supervision.", "Are they undergrad students? Or postgrad students doing their masters? Also how do you request for this service?\nI wouldn't mind trying but I'm worried about pain lol. Just from experience, some dentists can be really 'ganas' when scaling and stuff. I feel like experience plays a part in them being a bit more gentle in carrying out the procedures." ], [ "Why can't you do it at the government dentist?", "I also needed a root canal treatment. I have to wait months for an appointment at gov dentist", "I can, but there’ll be long queue times at govt dentists" ], [ "Frequented there during my study (for teeth scaling), now after I've graduated I'm regretting not using it more.\nEspecially for my both wisdom teeth haha." ], [ "I'm a dentist graduated few years ago from a public university in KL. Honestly, I was more meticulous and careful during my uni days (compared to now). This is because we had to show every single steps to a specialist and a subpar performance meant harsh criticism from them. As teaching institutions, uni will have to adhere to the strictest protocol in treatment standard and infection control - for this reason they are one of the most reliable place to get dental treatment. The downside is that sometimes students have fewer timeslots for you to choose from, so if you're less flexible in terms work hour or logistics, it might not be convenient for you. Treatment time may also be longer. Other than that, it's the best place to get your teeth fixed, don't forget that the students need you more than you need them, so you'll be treated like a VIP.\nHere's a list of dental schools in Malysia [public.] 1. UM (KL) 2. UKM - KL Campus (KL) 3. USIM (KL) 4. UiTM (Shah Alam) 5. USM (Kelantan) 6. IIUM (Pahang)\n[private] 7. IMU (Bukit Jalil) 8. MAHSA (KL) 9. SEGI (PJ) 10. Lincoln (PJ) 11. AIMST (Kedah) 12. PIDC (Penang) 13. MMMC (Melaka)" ] ]

[ "Science/ Technology" ]

[ [ "Why bother even posting it to public when it’s still in infancy/ideation phase?\nWhat does the people/management in proton get by informing the public they are considering it?\nTo me, do it or don’t.. that’s it.. to each your own, do it quietly and efficiently, actively competing in the automobile and don’t fail…" ], [ "Do it!", "At its current state hydrogen is less efficient than EV. Also, generating hydrogen requires either oil or huge amount of energy (which is moot if the energy comes from non renewable)", "Yahudi scientist can make hydrogen from algae\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDvmVJG-I0w", "Video not available bro....", "What?really? That's weird\nHere's another video about the same thing\nhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x-0gEsVD-4c&pp=ygUtSXNyYWVsaSBzY2llbnRpc3QgcHJvZHVjZSBoeWRyb2dlbiBmcm9tIGFsZ2Fl", "If that doesn't work, don't worry, our dear leader Abang Jo's just gonna fart enough hydrogen to power all of SEA /s", "I guess that huge ass dam of his finally worth it huh." ], [ "That would be a great move" ], [ "As much as i prefer Hydrogen combustion to full EV, I just gotta ask, do we have the resources to support it?" ] ]

[ "COVID-19" ]

[ [ "Yea, yesterday friday prayers, I forgot to take my mask from my car. But i thought, nvm, should be fine. Throughout the time in the mosque, got people coughing everywhere non stop. I regret not wearing my mask." ], [ "macam biasa lah, surau masjid kena dulu. walhal:\nLRT\nPanggung wayang\nKapal terbang\nShopping mall", "Its Islamic to care about health and safety\nGoing \"Kenapa masjid je, yang lain tak payah\" is stupid, kalau betul nak claim Islam pemimpin negara, then need to walk the talk first" ], [ "<image>" ] ]

[ "Politics" ]

[ [ "Anwar’s 2/3 majority is also made up of East Malaysian MPs. These MPs definitely won't vote for this.", "Actually an East Malaysian PM would be interesting. Bumi rights but without the Islamic stuff. Still a win.", "I don't know how would PN and their supporters would react to that but it would be interesting." ], [ "no to communism but yes to apartheidism.", "No to communism but kowtow to CCP.", "No to Malaysian Chinese but yes to China Chinese.", "I don't like how accurate this is 😭", "Cina balik cina! Cina pendatang!\nBut also Malay politicians: DA GE hurhurhur", "CCP now stands for Chinese Capitalist Party.", "sarcastic or making a statement?", "making a sarcastic statement?", "If the statement is true, it is not sarcasm.", "Your autocorrect misspelled zionism into apartheism." ], [ "Just some prime examples that there's nothing wrong for a minority to be a head of state:\nUSA - Barack Obama (African American)\nUK - Rishi Sunak (Indian)\nPeru - Alberto Fujimori (Japanese)", "To be fair. UK rishi is an absolutely horrible PM. Not because Indian, just him and his party", "Yeah the tories are horrible, but you gotta admit as an Indian (minority) he did a lot better than his predecessors Liz Truss and Boris Johnson.\nEdit: by a lot better I really mean fucked up a lot lesser than", "It’s like comparing different shades of shit. Lizz was a total fuckup. Boris too. Rishi is just useless and haven’t really done anything while country is in crisis. Also. Let’s remember that Rishi is not elected by the public.", "It’s like comparing different shades of shit.\nheyyy so it's like our PMs", "I'd say that considering it'll take a miracle to fix the shit show truss and Boris created, we can't blame Rishi totally. At least he hasn't actively made things worse. I think fixing the north Ireland protocols was at least a step in the right direction.", "Wait till he fk up the rwanda deal too", "He was the chancellor during boris era… so definitely can blame him 😂 but the whole party is just rotten to the core.", "Canada: Justin Trudeau\n<image>", "Jashwin Thirumurugan", "<image>\nIt's Justinder Singh Trudowal smh", "Marishka Hargathay Tharman Justin Singh", "Canada: Justinian TrueDough III (Justin Trudeau)\n<image>", "<image>\nIrish PM 2017-2020, 2022-present.\n1st Irish PM 1937. Ok this one less than 100 years lol", "May not be the best idea to use Fujimori as an example to advocate for having an ethnic minority head of state. 😅", "The Fujimori family fucked Peru hard badly.", "On top of commiting a genocide against the country's indigenous population, he also rolled back several constitutional liberties and ruled essentially as a dictator, far worse than any leader imaginable here", "I don't get the logic here, \"minorities as leader are worse\"? It was simply used of an example of it happening.\nPlenty of majority leader do just as much bad stuff.", "I'm not saying that minority leaders are worse than that of the majority. What was referred to instead is that Alberto Fujimori is not a good example of a leader from a minority.", "Not the best leader for sure, but in Latin America, who is? At least he managed to eradicate the Shining Path during his tenure.", "Bro, his government carried out forced sterilisations of women they deemed too poor to afford kids—many of them being indigenous Peruvians.", "Batista (Cuba) extracted genitals of prisoners to send to their fiances and Pinochet (Chile) ran over the heads of student leaders with tanks. Most Latin America leaders are horrendous. The population control plan was largely created by the Peruvian Military before Fujimori took power though, so I think if it wasn't fujimori, it would've been someone else.", "And Thailand - most of their PM are ethnic Chinese or half Chinese", "For all intents and purposes, people do not make any meaningful distinctions between the Thai-Chinese and Non-Chinese Thais in Thailand's demographics", "That makes it even more incredulous to us Malaysians. How come they don’t have their own bumi thing going on", "Hahahahaha I get what you mean but it's the context of which how the Chinese migrated over to Thailand and the cultural and social similarities.", "For one thing, they have Thai sounding names\nTheir culture is also Thai culture and not Chinese culture.", "They don’t have bumiputera rights as well 🥺", "Their history is a bit different.", "If only nons in malaysia can be the same. We would have a more unified country.", "Difference is all of their ethnic Chinese can speak Thai fluently and almost exclusively. You don't see them bitching that Thai isn't useful internationally", "I don’t know, do they too have Ketuanan Thai over there? It’s almost like policies have consequences amirite?", "None of those countries have race based politics where parties are based on racial lines. In Malaysia, Malays are told since birth they are bumiputera and they deserve special rights because of this. Also taught to segregate non Malays where interracial marriage can only happen if non Malays covert to Muslim.\nImagine people like that being brainwashed since young accepting a non Malay PM? They can't even choose their own religion.", "Well I'd argue that America had much ridiculous racial lines in the not so distant past - segregation of restaurants and even toilets by race. They just evolved pass the racial lines to be a more accepting society.\nCompared to those racial lines I feel Malays and Non-Malays in a general are much more harmonious", "not so distant past\nIt was 70 years ago, you couldn't even buy a transistor radio at the time.\nThis is taking whataboutism to the next level.\nI feel Malays and Non-Malays in a general are much more harmonious\nHow harmonious were they in the 1960's? Or does that not count, only \"not so distant past\" for others?", "not so distant past - segregation of restaurants and even toilets by race.\nYou are talking about the 70s and I seriously doubt you were even born then. Americans have moved on from segregation and made huge improvements in equality but you still stuck using it trying to defend segregation in Malaysia.\nCompared to those racial lines I feel Malays and Non-Malays in a general are much more harmonious\nYes very harmonious. Every time segregation mentioned in public, Malay politicians warning non Malays with repeat of May 13. So nice.", "I don't know what's your argument here - Malays will never accept non malays, it's a impossible future, nothing can be done?\nI'm not even using anything to defend anything. I'm saying there is room for growth with examples that it's possible for minorities to achieve the position of top government in their countries and it should be something to ponder about in malaysia politics.", "I don't know what's your argument here\nIts not an argument. I disagree with your statements and I shared my views.\nDon't know why you need to be so defensive and take it like some competition.\nI'm saying there is room for growth with examples that it's possible for minorities to achieve the position of top government in their countries\nAnd I have already pointed out how Malaysia is different from those countries. Ok to disagree, no need to win.", "Well... I already heard from my family circle and friends that some Malays refused to drink tea made by kafirs. This had happened in a government office.", "", "Hello /u/J0hnnyBananaOG, your comment has been removed under spam.\nI am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.", "Here's my take: if you vote a leader because of their race (includes religion as well), you shouldn't be voting at all.", "I found one of the comments from YouTube on FMT Someone said that Obama was Muslim and the first Muslim president of the US and then continued to be racist...\nWhy does this person exist...?\nP.S. just wanna say something... Sorry if I'm blabbering about something that isn't even on topic...", "yes except that it took Obama more than 200 years since US independence [1776].\nUK 1st PM 1721 till 1742 so it also took Rishi Sunak almost 300 years lol.\nPeru 1st President 1823 , Fujimori 1990, ok this one less than 200 years lol\nso expect between 150 to 300 years lol.", "I mean you are absolutely right it took a long time for these countries.\nBut are we going to focus that it takes a long time or that it is achievable in the end?\nWhat we need to focus on is whether Malaysia politics has the appetite to accept a minority leader and we can only give examples from other countries that it can be done and it will not be the end of the world for the majority races.\nThe discourse isn't 'hey that's not a fair comparison cause they took hundreds of years' it's 'it can be done in a human society why not ours?'", "It is achievable after a long time because of tremendous sacrifices and struggles along the way.\n1865 - Slave abolishment [The 13th amendment]\n1869 - The 14th Amendment that gave black people citizenship\n1870 - The 15th Amendment that gave black males the right to vote\n1964 - Civil rights act\nBefore the Civil rights act, blacks cannot go to white schools.\nThere are segregated schools, hotels, bars, hospitals, toilets, parks, even telephone booths, and separate sections in libraries, cinemas, and restaurants.\nHumans are inherently biased. U will have to break all this barriers.\nOnly time will tell.", "I don't have to break any barriers. My society (Singapore) has already achieved it. In fact a majority of us are shouting for a minority PM called tharman because he's like God tier politician leadership but the government doesn't think we are ready for a non Chinese PM so tharman is relegated to a ceremonial president role.\nI hope Malaysia can achieve the same.", "U will have to thank your founding father LKY for what he and his team has built.\nYour last barrier to break is to elect a non-Chinese PM.\nBut you r almost there becoz your founding fathers had put in place a good foundation.", "Nah. We are actually faster. Why is everyone forgetting that Mahathir is a quarter Indian? He was elected twice as our PM.", "Well, if we're using these examples, it took the US 230+ years before they elected a minority as the President. The UK took even longer", "Yeah but no country on earth live in a vacuum, especially in this globalised society. Another country needing 230 years to accomplish something is not an excuse for your own society not to do the same.", "Well then at least the non Malay have to be coming form UMNO or Bersatu. Not a Chinese dom party", "Please don't compare mature society to ours. Ours still in the mindset of nak selesai masalah air ke nak isley?" ], [ "So even an Orang Asli could not become PM?" ], [ "Malaysia ma. Malay land. Everything must revolve around Malay. Majority but can't survive without quota. Non Malay PM going to hurt them and take away their special rights.", "Meanwhile, Sabahan and Sarawakian bumis be like: AM I A JOKE TO YOU?????", "Exactly, the majority but always act like a minority", "Found the racist", "This is why we can't have non Malay PM. Even mentioning Malays having special rights is considered racist.", "No its the part where Malays cannot survive without quota. I disagree but even if true, it is that way due to how things played out historically. Something the average person then and now have very little control over.\nExtreme supremacists will always be there. But mean spirited comments like these are why middle ground Malays may be less sympathetic to non Malays rights. Why bother when you guys are gonna judge and look down on us anyway?\nThat is (part of) why we will never have a non Malay PM.", "Want live on special rights but can't let people say lol. No wonder Fahmi need to go around censoring comments on social media. Some people too sensitive.", "I'm just saying just because it's right doesn't mean it's wise to say it in a public forum. It's counterproductive to your goals, which i also share.\nBut if you really cannot tahan and just have to be a dick go ahead man. It's a free country.", "I'm just saying just because it's right doesn't mean it's wise to say it in a public forum. It's counterproductive to your goals, which i also share.\nBut if you really cannot tahan and just have to be a dick go ahead man. It's a free country.\nRead what you typed and I am surprised someone can be so conflicted. Claiming Malaysia is a free country but telling me I can't speak the truth because it hurts your feelings. Very \"free\" indeed.", "You have a right to say things that I disagree with. Is free speech a foreign concept to you?\n'Malays cannot survive without quotas'. Implying that it's an inferior race. So if you remove their rights, they will be dominated the other race.\nIsn't this the narrative that the right wing has been pushing to maintain control all these years. And here you are playing right to their narrative. It's short sighted man.", "I'm just saying just because it's right doesn't mean it's wise to say it in a public forum.\nYou have a right to say things that I disagree with.\nYour version of free speech very foreign to me. Then throw multiple labels at me like calling me a dick, claiming I am right wing and I am short sighted. I had fun talking to you.", "Pretty sure that was sarcasm.", "Nope. Some Malays can't have people talking about their special rights." ], [ "Tun M: Need pure Malay or mix ok ?" ], [ "mahathir is indian", "He’s a disgrace" ], [ "Why should menteri make the rule? Let the people decide. They'll vote for a Malay PM, and at least it'll be a bit fairer than having some, um, bold leader dictate it.", "Under a Westminster system, we the people elect our representatives of our respective constituencies and these representatives choose which representative to be appointed by the monarch in a parliament.", "this were all suggestions\nunless all members of parliament agreed .. it just rumor just to keep us busy" ], [ "A good PM is a PM that can steer the country in a good direction, regardless of their race, gender or age. Saying only Malay can be PM is backward thinking, and racist." ], [ "PETALING JAYA: Rights group Lawyers for Liberty (LFL) has condemned an opposition MP’s call to limit the prime ministership to Malays.\nLFL director Zaid Malek likened such a move to being a form of apartheid as it would legalise racism in the Federal Constitution.\nHe said any attempt to have only people of one race being allowed to become prime minister would be struck down by the courts as it would “offend” the constitution.\nHe also said there were sufficient safeguards concerning the position of the Malays and Islam in the Federal Constitution.\n“The position of the Malays and Islam cannot be so easily altered as it requires the consent of the Conference of Rulers, as required by Article 159 of the Federal Constitution.\n“This measure of protection in itself is already enough to dismiss the baseless fears conjured up by Machang MP (Wan Ahmad Fayhsal Wan Ahmad Kamal).\n“This abhorrent suggestion by the Bersatu MP must be immediately rejected by the prime minister and government and condemned unequivocally,” Zaid said in a statement.\nHe added that with the Israel-Palestinian conflict throwing the spotlight on apartheid policies, Wan Fayhsal’s remarks may affect Malaysia’s standing on the international stage to address issues on equality and human rights.\n“Let’s not split hairs, this proposal is textbook racism.\n“Malaysia would have no moral authority left to speak out on the international stage, whether on Palestine or any other matter if such an amendment is made.”\nZaid also said the Federal Court recently affirmed the “basic structure doctrine” whereby the constitution cannot be manipulated to undermine its core values of democracy and equality built into it since Merdeka.\nYesterday, Wan Fayhsal challenged Prime Minister Anwar Ibrahim to use his two-thirds majority in the Dewan Rakyat to amend the constitution to ensure that only Malays can become the prime minister.\nHe said he would support such a move and that this was fair since there was an understanding in the “social contract” that Malays are expected to “always lead in politics”.\nThe Bersatu Youth chief also said this would help instil confidence among the Malays in the government, especially in light of DAP veteran Lim Kit Siang’s remarks on whether a non-Malay could become the prime minister.\nBukit Aman is currently investigating Lim’s remarks." ], [ "Im Malay and I say let the Chinese and Indian be PM for once . We had enough Malay PM and half of them are shit or utterly useless and didnt do much ." ], [ "Pas is ahead of their time .\n<image>", "membolehkan orang bukan Melayu beragama Islam menjadi Menteri Besar negeri itu.\nSo the theoretical non-Malay MB would still have to be a Muslim?", "Yes and I believe this is what will happen, the first non-Malay PM will be a Muslim Chinese or Indian or other bumiputra. And based on his/her performance, maybe open to minorities of other religions, but baby steps, even if Muslim Chinese becoming PM is already a huge win.", "Unless you can convince the majority to vote otherwise . It is a democracy afterall,if you can't get the vote and support then it is just bualan sahaja.", "Yes, but the point is, technically, a non-Malay has always been allowed to be PM (based on the constitution), while a non-Malay has only relatively recently been allowed to be Kelantan MB in 2009 (according to that article), so PAS doesn't seem that \"ahead of their time\" now, do they?" ], [ "That's why I saw Malaysian hatred towards Zionism is just projection. Malaysia is more zionist then Zionists.", "I fully support Israel on this topic. Never back down never forget and forgive. Israel will prevail" ], [ "Seems like the other way round for us Malaysians. Minority get segregated lol." ], [ "Damn minorities they bring fear into the majority, never in history I assume…", "Jew says shalom" ], [ "Lol, this might be the most obvious rn but it's very very ironic that we're the ones loudest to condemn South African \"apartheid\" and Israeli \"genocide\". Talk about any of those issues and Malays will be the most SJW people on Earth but talk about minorities here they go full on Hitler on race", "cannot compare malaysia with isreal. in isreal they can just demolish your homes, or take away homes and give to jewish settlers from Europe or Usa..they also can put you in prison without charge because palestinians are under occupation. What Israel did to Gaza is similar to armageddon. here its totally different because the bumiputra is native while jewish from europe is not native still have special right over native palestinians in isreal. I am not pro bumi status..i want equal rights for all races, but to compare malaysia with isreal just show your knowledge about palestinian issue is very little", "Jews are NOT from Europe. Jews have lived in the Middle East since Abraham. All of the prophets of Islam before Muhammad PBUH, including Jesus (Isa) PBUH, are Jews. Please get your facts right.", "it is a bit problematic since Judaism is a religion not a race. You can convert to Judaism and be a jew through conversion or via aaliyah. If they were in Europe for thousands of years how does that make them eligible to have more rights than the native palestinians that can trace their dna to canaanites that were before Moses?\n<image>", "I’m not debating who has more rights - but please get your timeline right. The canaanites are basically ancient Israelites, so you’re saying Palestinians are the descendants of Jews? And Jewish people are ethnoreligious - just like Malays in Malaysia are always Muslims. And by your logic of tracing DNA, we can all trace our DNA back to the modern day Africa, so we all have the rights to live in DR Congo or Ethiopia right since we are native to there?", "You can do your research on palestinian dna on your own. Here some what i have found, see below links\nPalestinians are not all muslims. About 2% are christians.\nIf they (jews and palestinians) are related to Canaanites or the ancient levant people, what makes Jews from Europe can have Palestinians land and homes. I don't deny jews were living there for thousand of years\nLets apply this case to malaysia, for example there are malays who migrated to south africa hundred years ago, one of them decided to come to malaysia, claimed he has right to your house because his ancestors lived there 100 years ago and asking you to leave. How is that even acceptable. And God is not real estate agent. Simple\nBtw, malay were not always muslims. they were hindus or Buddhist in the past - eg : srivijaya kingdom\nhttps://www.quora.com/Are-Palestinians-actually-Canaanites-and-is-Palestine-actually-Canaan\nhttps://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2020-05-31/ty-article/.premium/jews-and-arabs-share-genetic-link-to-ancient-canaanites/0000017f-eb8f-d4a6-af7f-ffcf4f190000" ], [ "When someone bring in the possibility of a Non-Malay / Muslim become a PM even if it's low %, it's enough to cause \"unrest\", there is a huge problem in Malaysia.\nI scare if anything is changed (constitution/law) because of this , I scare there will be a slippery slope.\nImagine one day someone decide to become batu api and say Silat might be Non-Malay's No.1 hobby and might \"dominate\" the Silat scene. Then people will become \"unrest\" and demand Silat only can be practiced by Malay." ], [ "tell me you are a racist by not telling me you are a racist.", "Then when we become Islamophobia, he cry me a river.", "How is he racist??" ], [ "Absolutely despise WAF. Useless, along side Nga Kor Ming, Fahmi, Teresa Kok", "This is not the point right now, imagine Lee Kuan yew born in Malaysia and cannot become pm. We are wasting a huge potential.\nThis is also why US will dominate for this century.", "No its not. Singapore is a city state.", "Yeah you can go govern Singapore yourself. Will it become irrelevant like Brunei or even worse than Brunei :) no resources, have to import water, have to import this and that for basic necessities. Good luck mate, if you play any city sim games is like literally started on hardest mode", "It is very hard, for a city state. Very admirable.\nStill a city state." ], [ "western propagandist media outlets (so many of them us funded media) starting to stir up tensions, they always do whenever they see small issue and make it big racial issue.\ngaslighting is their expertise" ], [ "Yawn... Kulitfication - what's new?\nA Chinese-majority neighbour down south recently elected an Indian as the president over two other Chinese candidates.\nMalaysia will truly be great when it becomes colour-blind. Otherwise, well, it will just stay as \"Malaise-yeah\", with \"Melayu\" being \"layu\" dengan imbuhan \"me\"." ], [ "Minus one for talibanism" ], [ "USA can elect their black race president and UK can elect Indian race PM. So does Malaysia." ] ]

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[ [ "Rm2000 fine but his name is forever attached to sex offender.", "Ngu Chee Liang everybody. This is the name fort minor wanted is to remember" ], [ "u/potate_koala If you don't mind, may you tell us your opinion on this judgement and sentence?\nOf course, you can choose to not answer this question.", "Whatever happens u/potate_koala, I hope you still get to go on about your life peacefully. They'll get what they deserve.", "Please also update on whether the policeman that told you to erase the evidence has been fired and also charged with criminal mischief.", "We all know that won’t happen to the policeman. I agree with you tho he should receive due punishment for asking victim to delete evidence of being harassed.", "In regards to this question, all I heard is that they are given a warning", "Thank you for your reply. I have to say that is really saddening, but somehow this is what everyone expects. Like the case of the PDRM inspector that raped 2 foreign women during MCO and the court punished the women. It is sickening. I would ask have you tried complaining to Nancy Shukri because she seems to not say anything about this issue even though the conditions have become so bad in Malaysia. It is like as if we're living in some Middle Eastern backward country where women are unsafe all the time.", "In all honesty, my humble opinion on this is that please, if you're ever in stress or need help just talk to someone and not do this kind of act in public, or in fact anyone without consent. It's a public transport, what if kids were there?\nYes he's jobless, yes he has a mom to care for.\nBut according to what I heard he did it mainly because he was under mental stress for having a huge argument with his Vietnamese gf.\nTruth be told, I had to take a few days break from work because of the incident (evidently lost my job) but hey, life still goes on.\nI continued to pursue this case because I want people to be aware that this action is seriously not okay. But don't be afraid to voice out, no matter how many people shut you down. And to let those offenders know that as victims, we don't just let you go that easily.\nSo in my humble opinion, kinda wanted him to go to jail. But hey, pity his mom and he's jobless amirite?" ], [ "u/potate_koala famous now! Though not the kind of fame you wanted !\nHappy that justice is served. And thank you for standing up for that kind of situation! 🙏🏻" ], [ "Lol, punishment should have been rotan his pp", "Too small, cannot hit" ], [ "Would you take RM2,000 for someone to flash you?" ], [ "The offence carries a maximum five years jail or fine or both\nHe deserves the maximum penalty" ], [ "I wanna make a joke comment about this but the mods will not be amused and thus I typed this. 😒 Thanks for reading. Bye. 🏃💨💨" ] ]

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[ [ "who’s gonna pay for it?\nI believe there should be a scheme for proof of concept like “no cure, no pay” where if you can find it only then government will pay for it.", "This is exactly the stance by the govt right now" ], [ "Screencap of the article\n<image>" ], [ "They are 100% dead.\nThe family members of the deceased have received compensation.\nWho will fund this new endeavour ? MAS is fine, but not the tax payers." ], [ "The most important point is missing. What is the new technology/technique? What kind of journalism is this?" ], [ "", "The article specifically says the people in question don’t think it was caused by autopilot.", "Oh, I didn't read that part. lol", "Rumour is the planes have this function to be flown by wireless", "I don’t think two pilots can sleep at the same time, the other must be awake." ], [ "r/airlinerabduction2014" ] ]

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[ [ "\"the cop was said to have been annoyed with the loud noises from the motorcycle. The report said the car rammed into Zaharif’s motorcycle after a 1km chase, causing him to fall off and be dragged for nearly five metres\"\nHow entitled do you have to be to feel you can kill someone for motorcycle noises and get away with it? The level of craziness in Malaysia's cops is out of control. Abducting people. Murdering people in jail. Raping ladies in the police station. Drug fueled sex parties in a police station gangbang room. At what point do we the tax payers put our foot down on this shit?" ], [ "Lifetime jail needed, no less.\nIf he wanna use the mental issue excuse to bail out, respective ketua polis have to resign and be condemned for the hiring, incompetent and slacking.\nJustice has to be served and lessons have to be taught.\n-In a civilized and harmony society, you do not beat, vandalise or murder someone due to your feelings (stop this nonsense shit).\n-No justification for murdering, even worse for public servant.\n-Hit and Run is a heavy crime.", "Jokes on you having illusion that Malaysia is a civilized and harmony society, it has never been when there is a trend that this country is going into authoritian ruthless state", "First day in Malaysia? Teoh Beng Hock. Darren Kang. All those dead Indian guys who 'committed suicide'. Justice won't be served." ], [ "Reminder #1: ACAB.\nReminder #2: PDRM is simply the best armed gang in Malaysia. They started off as the colonial enforcement arm, and it's why their main focus is cracking down on social and anti-authoritarian activities.\nThey were not, and are not here to help or assist you if you're just a common person. They're here to keep you in line.", "the PDRM dogs that spent their youth enforcing Mahathir's iron grip regime are the Seniors currently leading the force\nthat should tell you all you need to know about PDRM" ], [ "Now is time for solidarity not killing !", "Solidarity with who? police?" ], [ "Would I do differently as the police officer?\nI was on patrol.\nSaw a kid breng breng breng non stop.\nDrove up to motor want to tegur him for being an ass.\nKid ran once he saw me drove up\nSuspect got drugs on him or something. Give chase asap. Standard procedure if someone ran as soon as they sees police car, tbh.\nAfter 1km chase, still don't want to stop.\nReaching this point, what will you do? I know what I will do.\nAll I want to say is: maybe the police didn't try to kill the kid because he was annoyed at the revving noice.\nEdit: nvm. That police is a psychopath.\nhttps://twitter.com/HazwanAfifi/status/1735675631138992298?t=V1dMX3Gq_anylPWFzV4C_A&s=19", "<image>", "Yeah the kid ran away which escalated the situation. Also the senior police should have higher self control especially when he is in the force for a long time.\nThat’s why it’s hard to capture these rempits. They wouldn’t stop and would risk everything to save their bike. Meanwhile the police officers are risking theirs too.\nIf the kid did not ran away, this event wouldn’t ended up like this. Hope the victim rests in peace and the cop learnt his lesson for being a hot tempered." ], [ "When would this nonsense stop?" ], [ "" ] ]

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[ [ "But i didnt hear new vaccines created. So, if we take this booster, is it based on old variant?" ], [ "How to destroy an economy in one announcement" ], [ "My body my choice", "Shouldn't have force people in the first place with product that doesn't work." ], [ "Nope. No more. Not gonna jab again.", "For sure, it didn't work in 2021 and monyets expecting it to work in 2023?" ], [ "ayam already on 3rd jab. so ayam now need 4th jab?" ] ]

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[ [ "Rm599 for one way flight is still consider expensive. Average ticket flight to Sabah Sarawak is around rm129-rm159 for one way. Capping the price I guess its a good start despite big differences between normal ticket price and festive seasons." ], [ "Loke further explained that the government would absorb the difference in cost for tickets that would have originally cost over RM599\nez money for AA" ] ]

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[ [ "The Ole Welcome to My Police Service Treatment." ], [ "lolol this case was so many years back....the comments on youtube still talks about fair justice & karma....what an utter rubbish\ndon't understand why people still have hope on this case" ] ]

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[ [ "While I don’t agree with the excessive policing but there were some vile stuff coming from PAS’ social media side trying to incite racial and religious hatred.", "Or criticizing certain minister as bloody moron also count?", "", "Any examples? Not aware of any coming from the government itself.", "I reported, and they always said no issue" ], [ "Can't believe I'm complimenting Twitter but...\nThe real question is why Meta and Tik Tok doesn't have misinformation tag unlike Twitter? There should be a middle ground between letting a content ran wild vs banning them outright.\nHaving a misinformation tag would educate ppl and putting a stop to misinformation, intentional or not, to spread much further.", "I've seen quite a few on insta only for comments to say its some new world order/agenda zionist when it is tagged as such. Public sentiment remains an issue and you have poor education running about.", "Meta, Google, Apple, Bytedance etc are profit driven. who cares about community service." ], [ "A certain leader (and now, even his ministry assumed his personality) look so friendly and approachable on the outside. But on the inside, very insecure and want to shut down people of differing views.\nInstead, I prefer politicians who are the reverse. Look unfriendly but actually very open to differing views.", "Hadi Awang? Lmao", "just check the news for past week", "Pkr minister following his boss's decision." ], [ "I'm so disappointed with the current govt. I wonder how a govt that consists of only DAP and Amanah would go.", "Holland because the numbers don't add up", "Look at the seat count in GE15 also you know impossible.", "Numbers combined it cant even form a minority gov.\nEven now with PKR it had to haul in Sarawak, Sabah and UMNO to form one.", "honestly. no good expectations on either choice but its PH v PN.", "majority still want racial biased management. you're just minority, so feel free to be disappointed /s" ], [ "Ah yes, 2% religious culture trying to conform againts 98% of global culture\nI can come up with some new word or body gestures and some random God can dictate it being illegal without knowing its meaning" ], [ "Double standards again.\nThought you all balls to the walls boycott this and that, why still talking about meta?" ], [ "You people want vile racial content ?" ], [ "I hate censorship but seriously the amount of toxicity and misinformation in FB and TikTok, especially from the conservatives, is crazy. Imagine having my PAS-supporter friends openly praying for the death of Coldplay concert attendees (via stadium collapsing, thunderstrike, flooding) even though they knew I was going. Immediately blocked. I never want to hate people for different political views but holy shit, that is too much\nPH supporters are toxic too tbh (especially on Twitter) but PAS toxicity is on another level", "PAS-supporter calling death of people = no action.\nSome random dude call menteri bodoh = send in the army." ], [ "Is it really surprising to find waste in the septic ponds." ], [ "Between January and June this year, Meta restricted about 3,100 pages and posts on its Facebook and Instagram …\nThe figure was six times higher than in the previous half-year period and the highest since the company began reporting content restrictions in Malaysia in 2017.\nShort video platform TikTok, in a similar report issued last month, said it had received 340 requests from the Malaysian government to remove or restrict content between January and June 2023, affecting 890 posts and accounts.\n… It was triple the number TikTok removed in the second half of 2022.\nand link to actual article: https://www.reuters.com/technology/meta-tiktok-report-jump-malaysia-govt-requests-remove-content-2023-2023-12-15/" ], [ "While I agree that there are questions to be asked about who makes the determination on what constitutes content that need to be censored, there should be no doubt when the content posted is clearly inflammatory, touch on race and religion and invoke the anger of the citizens that may spark chaos.\nThe Government has a duty to act to prevent such situations." ] ]

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[ [ "Think it's about knowing yourself better. Not sure what benefits you are looking for here as autism may not be listed as a disability. I got diagnosed with ADHD and whilst some employers are worried, most are understanding.", "I guess that's one thing. Do I just need to go to a general counselor or something?", "There are generally two routes, public or private. I'd recommend private as the waiting time is much shorter but you won't be able to access the health care system." ], [ "Go to a psychiatrist. They should direct you to the right places. Im driving to work rn but i can get back to you with a list that might prove useful." ], [ "it is long process they need look your behavior for months to consider as autistic." ] ]

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[ [ "Kesian" ], [ "kes tersilap identiti yang tidak berbahaya:26554:" ], [ "another white begpecker.. never ever" ], [ "Isn't she received 1.4mil from hadi? Where did the money goes?", "Masuk poket lah.\nGet donation now then become free money.", "Assuming he already paid, usually there are alot of appeals to extend, delay, reduce etc etc. It could takr many years before even a cent is paid" ], [ "I taubat edi no more fitnah please donate" ] ]

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[ [ "No reason why the lawyers from both sides can’t file for an amendment. It’s a very clear cut case. Had something similar when my mum passed away a few years ago. We just filed for an amendment under the same terms and deposit and within 45 days there was a new contract with a little footnote of the previous contract and it was CTC attached to the new agreement.\nIf not get the lawyers to sort it out and you probably have a case for refund if you have a time stamped record of when you informed them and when they stamped the SPA. I’m not sure of the deposit amount but if it’s small, dispute it, go to small / civil court in the state and they will make a ruling, which should be in your favour.\nAnd as long as it’s filed as being disputed, they can’t enforce anything further until it’s settled.\nBut maybe a legal advisor or lawyer will give you better advise. This is just what I remember off the top of my head when I faced this situation.", "Honest question\nIf got MRTT/MRTA, is the house \"free\" immediately right now?", "Very rarely would there be disbursement within that timeframe. If there was full disbursement and an active policy, then there should be in your hypothetical scenario." ], [ "Doesn't matter. The spa binds the next of kin aka legal representatives (which would be the executor/administrator/beneficiary)\nTbh no need to do any addendum to the spa if the lawyer smart enough. Case Jalan macam biasa je." ], [ "Oh wait it's the buyer died ah. If buyer died then diff story la." ] ]

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[ [ "Was extremely easy for my father to get. He is in his 70s with comorbidities. Felt unwell, did a rapid test in the morning, came out positive. Brought him to KL Health Clinic in the afternoon and within couple of hours they sent us home with Paxlovid and some other meds. A nurse called to check in with him every other day during home quarantine.", "Wow, Malaysia's healthcare is truly amazing. In Australia, when someone tests positive in the RAT test, they're told to undergo home isolation. If experiencing any serious symptoms, they are advised to report to the hospital. Subsequently, if the situation is life-threatening or the person is elderly or falls into a high-risk category, such as immunocompromised individuals, they are granted Paxlovid.\nThat's why when I heard you say it's easy to get it without any screening or requirements, I was amazed 😀", "Well Paxlovid is only effective the earlier you take it so can't waste much time there.\nThere are requirements. Not everyone is eligible to get it, you'll need to be elderly or immunocompromised. But other than that, no need to wait for a PCR test confirmation or anything like that. Rapid test+symptoms like fever was good enough for them to give Paxlovid.", "Oh I see. So there are requirements only for non elder people and non immunocompromised people..My bad. Thanks for clarifying" ], [ "It's easy to get it from public clinics/hospitals provided if they really think you need it. Just walk in, tell them your symptoms and any comorbidities that you're having, do a check and they'll prescribe it.\nSource: They prescribed it to me because I have a congenital heart defect." ], [ "Step 1 : walk into a government health clinic (klinik kesihatan) with COVID and mild symptoms Step 2: get Paxlovid\nSo no, it's not difficult!", "Dang pretty easy compared with Aussie lmao. May I ask is it ok to walk in to private hospital like Prince Court Medical instead? Or is Paxlovid just available at government hospitals?", "You can get almost any drug in private provided you are willing to pay.", "No you can't with Paxlovid. The only way is through the government channels.\nI should clarify, the only Paxlovid stocks in Malaysia are paid for by the Malaysian government for Malaysians. Whether the drug is provided for foreigners, I do not know. There are no Paxlovid for private sales.", "Thats unfortunate..any chance you know any good government hospitals near the Prince court area? We’re staying in “The Conlay” hotel.", "The nearest one to you should be the Kuala Lumpur Health Clinic", "Great. Just we live next to Prince Court so convenient 😅. Thanks for the help all." ] ]

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[ [ "ABIM is always friendly towards Anwar ever since he founded it. So don't expect neutrality." ], [ "Using religion for political gain is still disgusting no matter the party." ], [ "Another win for Anwar" ], [ "As long as can see more clean and fair elections in the future. Give this guy a chance." ], [ "Oh no here comes talibanisasi", "ABIM ni promote interfaith dialogues kot. Diorang bukan supremacists.", "ABIM is where Anwar came from. And he's an Islamic fundamentalist.\nE.g. Giving more power to JAKIM and Islamic institutions, pushing Islam in almost every aspect of malaysian society", "I know Anwar’s and ABIM’s history. I work for him.\nI’ve explained the rationale behind giving more allocation to Jakim. It’s up to you guys if you want to believe what I said.", "I’ve explained the rationale behind giving more allocation to Jakim.\nIslam, even with \"superstitions removed\" and \"critical thinking inculcated\" is still not anywhere close to being progressive.\nWe have a lot of problems and we may not solve all of them, but removing religion influence in govt policies means we have one less problem", "Tak apalah. Believe whatever you want. I thought Reddit is a discussion platform, but turns out it’s no different than Facebook and Twitter.", "Platform je yang lain, pengguna tetap \"typical Malaysian\"", "But BERSIH is about fair elections, not about being 'progressive', is it?\nThe people get to choose what kind of government runs the country, and how 'progressive', 'conservative', or 'religious' the country is.\nEdit: people forget PAS were also participants of thrle previous BERSIH rallies, showing religion, or the lack of it, wasn't and isn't the main part of the movement.", "Yes. Mixing religion with progressive organization is a good way to make it regressive", "Nobody said BERSIH is a progressive organisation.", "Fair elections are progressive.", "No. Progressivism is pro LGBTQ, open borders, social protections, regulations of products, etc.\nFair elections are just fair elections, where people get to choose the above policies or not.\nAnd to the down voters, when was the last BERSIH match on the above policies?", "Btw, since you Anwar well, do you think he's a closeted gay/bisexual?", "I spoke to you nicely. I took my time to explain things to you in hopes of building up a discussion and reaching an understanding, yet you downvoted me. Now you’re asking me a stupid question. That just shows your level of intellect, yet you think you know better than the people running the country. You are no different than the conservative people you despise.", "Asal islam je taliban eh", "Yang tu PAS. PAS dgn ABIM bagai langit dan bumi" ] ]

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[ [ "When I was a kid, I had always doubted it when I heard claims in my geography class and other places that Malaysia was a megadiverse country because of the lack of diverse animals or insects that I saw growing up in the city (and even when I balik kampung).\nIt wasn't until I saw things like this post and a book on the wildlife of an area near my house that I realized I couldn't be any more wrong xD\nThanks for the cool pictures, OP!" ] ]

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[ [ "Users often report submissions from this site and ask us to ban it for sensationalised articles. At /r/Malaysia, we oppose blanket banning any news source. Readers have a responsibility to be skeptical, check sources, and comment on any flaws.\nYou can help improve this thread by linking to media that verifies or questions this article's claims. Your link could help readers better understand this issue. If you do find evidence that this article or its title are false or misleading, contact the moderators who will review it.\nI am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns." ], [ "Are the people in charge very paranoid that anyone wearing shorts will make everyone else pregnant and buang bayi within their radius?", "Obviously. Apparently shorts +10 CHARISMA points.", "+20 PAHALA", "Tengok-tengok in 6 months these Sarong will be a vector for infection. Unless they wash Sarong Daily, it's a health hazard.", "men are not suppose to show hair...\nthey will start with leg first.... a few decades later they will ask you wear cap & mask to cover your hair and facial hair.\n/s", "Well, as far as the establishment is concerned, banyaknya yang akan melemahkan aqidah dan mengelirukan umat.", "Sarawakian Muslims: Pathetic ( Seymour stare)\n<image>", "Could be a scp item", "So you dont hv to come home to change pants when you got robbed and want to lodge a police report", "It is a gov building they have dress code.", "yes for the civil servants, not for the people they serve." ], [ "It's amazing how people pretend that Malaysia isn't slowly being Taleban-ized.", "Always have always will.\nKita yang lalai baru lahir dan sedar.", "This is the dumbest thing I have read all day..and it's not even noon.. Respecting a dress code got nothing to do with religion or a strict zealous regime. It's is just a dress code, that u need to cover urself appropriately. Try goin into court wearing shorts and slipar and see what's what.. To go from setting dress code to a regime where they treat women like sub-human and education is privileged ...", "It's 2023. Return your dress code to 1993.\nMany modern societies have advanced and recognised that the dress code is not a key element in public service. You need to apply for a license? make a police report? Collect your passport? File income tax? What's important is the service that's being done. Not what you are wearing. Asal bukan bogel or wearing some IS flag, you should not be denied.\nPrivate restaurant or country club, you want to have a dress code, then go ahead.\nPeople like you have priorities all wrong. Top-notch service first. Everything else doesn't matter if that one also cannot get right.", "That's some nerve being tickled ay? Argue the point my dude.. Did I ever mentioned anything about the services or what's important or not?\nI'm with u on the service have to be top notch, no doubt.\nY must there be different standards between private rest/country club and government institution? Rules are there to be follow. If u are denied entry to restaurants or clubs as u mentioned, will u call them a Taliban?\nJust be honest man, u just want to follow the rules that suited u. And when u think that certain institutions is beneath u or you have no respect for em, their rules dosent apply and u associated them with one of the worst regime in modern history.. C'mon..", "In 2023, there's a time and place for dress codes.\nWith the exception of a courtroom, I don't see where your example stands. And if the only legitimate example is a courtroom, then its an exception to what should be the norm.", "Good lord.. U keep typing it's 2023 like it's suppose to mean something.. we call ourselves a modern civilisation, and how we become civilised? By rules and laws set by men or God (if u are religious) that we shape our civilisation.\nTime and place for dress code? Should it suit your liking?\nCourt room, temple, mosque, churches, schools, restaurants, clubs, UN building all over the world, certain banks, Parliament building and any government institution. Even some snooker centre in Klang Valley have dress codes. And that was just what's on top of my head. Hell, if u go for a work interview (even for mcD) there's also a dress code for it. 1933 or 2023, it's the same.\nBut we have free will don't we? If u wanna talk like a progressive. U can choose not to go or file an official complain or become a lawmaker and change the law that suits u. But it's 2023 right, just call em Taliban. That will show em..", "I'm implying your position is antiquated I.e. outdated, belongs in the past. Some rules have outlived their usefulness or relevance. Dress codes for public services don't belong in an egalitarian society.\nYoure a business owner and want a certain class of people using a dress code, it's your choice. Your place of business, your right to make that judgment call.\nPublic services, then no. Court of law is a little special. More of a place for judicial proceedings. Literally a place where an authorised person has the power to circumscribe judgements that will legitimately curtail or end some of your personal rights and freedoms." ], [ "Does this proofs that visitor DOES need to avoid wearing short pants and selipar when visiting government offices? Decide Once and for all and stop see sawing. I need to prepare pair of pants and toe hiding shoe in my car.\nKesian beggars. They can no longer even enter police station to make report. I wonder if police need to prepare crocs and long pants for banduan lokap who aren't dress appropriately." ], [ "Okay la, better than halau people home.", "Exactly. Better than wasting time to go home and change. Just do about your business and go home. Habis cerita.", "Yes it's still an issue but at least in this case it's handled more graciously. Looking at the bright side.\nIt becomes stupid when you just chase away the ppl coming there on business." ], [ "Do people usually wear anything under their sarungs ?", "yea, at least i do. cold balls are not fun", "feel the wind…so nice" ], [ "Wait... So I can wear sarong but not short pants... So women can berkemban sarong to govt offices ?" ], [ "Reminds of me Genting. Not in the way some of you defending this might think but in wanting everybody to look \"smart and acceptable\" they rent out those disgustingly worn looking Batik shirts that neither look nice/smart/classy.\nSure wearing that sarong which is essentially home/casual wear vs a properly dressed dude in nice proper short pants looks much better lol.\nThose people defending this stop using \"look smar/dressed well\" at government office la.. just call it what it is." ], [ "Women can wear sarung too", "Women should wear Kebaya …. If you know what I mean" ], [ "Basically assimilated culturing" ], [ "Funniest comedy skit ever. As if they would actually do this in real life... right?" ], [ "I don't see this is a problem\nEatery also got dress code. Buddhist temple I went in Thailand they also provide sarong for tourists that wear singlet too", "Those are private and religious premises. I can say must wear colander on head to enter my flying spaghetti restaurant too. This is a public institution funded by public monies.", "The right answer to a poor analogy." ], [ "A place that does this far earlier than this is the Orchid eatery inside the Lake Club.\nSiap they got blazers, batik shirt, long pants for guests.\nYes, even eateries have dress codes too.", "eateries are private businesses.\nThey’re not civil or public service.\nThough for civil service like government departments it’s still somewhat acceptable for wearing appropriately for official government matters. But I’m not too sure whether we really need it for municipal matters like this case.\nFor public service like healthcare and police? Definitely not." ], [ "Dulu tuduh Pas paksa pegawai kerajaan laksana polisi ini. Rupanya PH 2 kali 5, 5 kali... ****.." ] ]

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[ [ "The Penang government has since given an assurance that people will not be prevented from entering healthcare facilities because of their attire.\nSeberang Jaya Hospital director Dr Saiful Azlan Sharif said an investigation found that Lim was barred because of a misunderstanding and miscommunication between him and the security guard.\nThis is what I meant by see sawing. One say can, one say cannot, we forever in limbo. Just decide lah for God's sake. I bet my testiclea next year we will see this news again.", "It will never happen. Every minister and ExCo member has said that there is no dress code for the public. Every senior figure of authority has said that it is not permissible for govt departments to deny service on the basis of attire.\nBut is anyone punished for coming up with these things? Is any guard fired, or the Ketua Cawangan reprimanded for putting up signs to that effect? No, because everyone is fucking terrified of the government bureaucracy, particularly after 2018.\nSo when there is no punishment, and they can come up with creative methods to avoid work and satisfy their fragile egos and inferiority complexes, of course they will keep coming up with bullshit methods like this.", "What they need to do is complete removal of all signage showing a dress code (anywhere you go there's some faded 15 years old sign guards can see every day right?)\nAnd if there's a new sign obviously take action against whoever ordered the sign.\nbut no action to remove those signs means every year some new guard scratch their head and just apply it lah.\nthe sign in this case, source\ntemerloh hospital dress code\nwhat are guards supposed to do? not follow hospital management's directions?", "Just fire the person who give such instructions then it will solve the problem.", "Like every year on the bingo card lol" ], [ "No consequences and just blame on \"misunderstanding\". Like that how to enforce anything?\nAll these little Napoleans abusing their job to force people to do dumb shit just do it again tomorrow." ], [ "Issue can be solved in 5 minutes. PM js need to make statement that civil servants participating in these activities will hv their employment terminated and superiors demoted." ], [ "Madani....lol" ], [ "Wear sarong by male is crossdressing\n/S\nThey love to force men to crossdress", "Blame on the rainbow for confusion …." ], [ "I wonder who instructed this Rela man to enforce such a ruling\nProbably his superiors" ], [ "Wear skirt wtf" ], [ "To me, all this slam, or say no dress code is more on politics. If they were serious, they will make it into a policy. But nope, just talk to get political points.\nBecause, they know full well, if they make it official, means people can enter their office wearing shorts or whatever people want, and im 100% sure they will very much feel annoyed if people do that.\nImagine people go meet minister at his office wearing pajamas. Hahaha\nAnd there is someone here that keeps bringing up about what a minister said or some other politician said. Know that, whatever they say that is not written in any policy or written order in a form of circular, it is only considered as their personal opinion. And even if a minister had done a circular, it is only limited to her or his department.\nAnd those that have problem following these rules are normally people that have issues with authority. No politicians will take them seriously." ], [ "Im gonna walk in there with sarong and nothing else." ] ]

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[ [ "Masa untung banyak lansi. Ramai entrepreneurs muda propose nak buat local social media & streaming service, suruh depa backup. Tapi kena halau, kena kutuk. Tak nak jumpa pun.... \"wasting time\" katanya.. 🤷‍♂️", "Yeah if this old stuff die maybe we can something better, let them die", "Not only they don't support the new medias, they actively shut them down. One of them actually created their own new streaming division, even that got shut down internally due to politics. So ya... let them die...", "PertiwiTV?", "Do you understand what are you promoting let a Malaysian media industry die, at what costs? Google can start writing articles? No it would be just you will be getting more Australian or Singaporean news. Our own journalists or reporters won’t be in scene.", "Ya very true. But at the same time any support of such players would also be immensely unpopular - see the replies about cronyism already." ], [ "Don’t they pay tax in Malaysia ?", "Yes, they do.\nHim bringing up this issue is classic Malaysian cronyism", "Like the \"buy malaysian goods\" campaign.", "This is a naive viewpoint, the other reply explains why from a tax standpoint but there are also very strong reasons for at least some degree of protectionism for local media.", "Slipper slope that. Anyway deal with the over the top censorship and then maybe there might be a case for \"protectionism\"", "If you don’t know the issue at the hand say don’t know. Don’t be snarky and try to act smart.\nAbsolute pain in the add to educate people like this.", "Freedom of speech bro. Not happy? Just downvote la. It's the way the site fucking works.\nSounds like you want to censor me too? Is that why? Lmao.", "But if I call you idiot, that's not freedom of speech apparently.", "Feel free to. You're an idiot too btw.", "What you expect from reddit hive mind. They think company like meta,google,amazon and etc practice free market. Lol.", "They do pay income tax, i guess. One thing they did not pay is the withholding tax on revenue from advertising services on their platform (Google Ads, FB Ads etc). If a resident uses for example, Google Ads, for advertisement, the resident is required to withhold certain percentage of the amount paid and pay to LHDN as withholding tax. Iirc, it is agreed that using their advertising platform is considered as royalty.\nHowever, these giants refused to let people withhold payments from them. Hence, residents have to pay 100% of the amount to them. Then, the residents had to fork out their own money to pay on behalf of these giants or their expenses on advertising would not be tax-deductible. Well, not many people even realize that they have to pay withholding tax for this tho.", "Google should just pay income tax directly to LHDN", "Income tax is paid directly by the taxpayer themselves. But for withholding tax, the burden of tax is not on the taxpayer themselves. The resident pays on behalf of the non-resident by withholding a certain amount of what should've been paid to the non-resident.\nFor example, let's say I used Google Ads. I should've paid RM1,000 to them. But due to tax purposes, I would've withheld 8% of RM1,000 (RM80) and pay that amount to LHDN on behalf of Google. That is the usual practice for withholding tax here and everywhere else in the world.\nHowever, Google as well as other tech giants refused to allow this. Thus, people have to pay the full amount to them yet still have to bear that responsibility for them or risk having to add back the advertising expenses in your income tax calculation. If you're only spending hundreds or few thousand then yeah you probably think that's nothing. But, for companies that spend millions for advertising, it'll have huge tax implications.", "Thanks for the clarification. But they are still required to pay Digital Services Tax?", "Yes, withholding tax on advertising is different than digital services tax. Digital services tax is value-added tax where customers pay extra 6% for any eligible services from any foreign providers.\nIt's just like GST/SST, if you get what i mean.", "So iiuc the gist is kinda like..\nIf we had a local Malaysian ad pusher company (A) selling ads to US citizens, A would still end up paying more to the US in taxes than Google or Meta would be paying to our country for every ad they sold to Malaysians...\nIs this correct?", "Idk what an ad pusher means, but what I just explained is for Malaysian tax purposes. Plus, the withholding tax thing for ads only applies to Google, Meta etc because in essence, you pay for the right to advertise in their platform.\nDifferent from using a marketing company, you have to create the campaign yourself. If you use an American/foreign marketing agency to help you advertise, then this WHT does not apply.", "Intersting", "They don't. All payments to Meta, Google and Tiktok are not tax-deductible because they don't pay the witholding tax.", "6%. If they are not paying it, the companies that use the service have to pay - the tax auditor insist." ], [ "What a bloody moron", "Reddit will receive letter next week", "", "Hey man take it easy, my name's fahmi too", "Well your words hurt... because I'm kinda in that situation right now 😔", "All PKR Ministers are useless fucktards", "fuck off la, absolutely moronic whoever defends FB or Google in this. Absolute traitors.\nMedia industry has stomachs to feed also. How do you expect “compete” against trillion dollar industry? If like that, let’s remove all subsidies. You know who does most protectionism policies? USA and Europe.\nLook into Bill C-18 in Canada, they managed to bring 70million back to Canadian families. Use your brain cells first.", "dude this affects everyone, you think Sin Chew Daily isn't getting affected? This is national issue, beyond racial line.", "so traditional media is dying off everywhere in the world. the way people are consuming media and news is changing all the time.\nso you're telling Malaysians to support what? old fashioned media? not follow new developments in tech that affects how the whole world consumes media and news?\nthe minister should look into ways to make sure these tech giants play a good part in our local economy, taxation, investment into the country etc. not with this stupid point finger rubbish.", "Comment removed due to being in breach of reddiquette.", "fuck off\nYou know what happens due to C-18?\nCanadians can no longer read news from Social Media\nOh wait, perhaps thats what fucktard \"lets censor everything\" fahmi wanted in the first place\n70million\nIf Canada, a country richer than us can only bring back 70m, you think Malaysia can bring back RM2B?\nbrain dont have, mencarut je tau", "Yeah you should be going to news site to read news because that’s how news media generate money. They produce articles, they deserve to be paid.\nThe market size is 2B, doesn’t mean you get 2B. Canadian news agencies got 70 million dollars! If malaysian news agencies get fraction of that, it is considered a big win!", "I've worked in the media industry before and what Fahmi is doing here, I can actually see it benefitting local media companies alot (in both public and private media sectors)\nBesides the top few media outlets, most others especially independent ones really struggle to generate income. If fahmi can get these big tech companies to share some income as what he's saying it should be done here, it can really benefit the small companies", "Born ystd? It's a free market. If you aren't competitive naturally other people going to take your spot. So naive comment.", "Comment removed due to being in breach of reddiquette, specifically because it contained personal attack, insult, or threat.\nEasy on the name-calling. You can get your point across without the need for that. Keep things civil because we don't want to have to roll out bans if possible, thanks.", "The old free market bs,Facebook ,google,and etc is the child of free market totally no monopoly there. Free market my ass.", "100% agree, same with Rafizi." ], [ "Make local media good enough to compete first. There's so much that can be improved, eg. a backend for advertisers to manage the ad, scheduling, reports, controlled targetting, etc. more competitive rates.\nWe advertise on where the people are looking. If there's no changes there, all you could do is \"negotiate\" it." ], [ "Masa untung, senyap-senyap. Masa rugi, cry father-mother, complain this & that...." ], [ "Aiya, old NEP tactics strike again" ], [ "My guess, the gov is planning to increase revenue tax for foreign media. Him bringing up this matter about local media losing ad revenue will be used as an excuse to increase that tax.", "This make business more expensive for local because there’s no eye balls on local media.", "I think the excuse will be, if they apply higher tax to foreign media, it will make advertising in those pltaforms more expensive. It will encourage people to advertise on local media.\nReagrdless, im sure government knows, even if ad price increase, people will still use those foreign media to advertise. So, gov get more money. Thats the main purpose.", "If I am selling my service to overseas, this will make my business more expensive to operate than competitors in other country.", "U do know vpn exist? If its too expensive from local ip people just do the turkey route.", "That and also test the water on making all foreign social media go through local distributor for local media sale. By local distributor I mean one distributor who is closely related to incumbent gomen." ], [ "Pretty fed up with this \"lost RM XXX that I could have made due to this or that reason\" narrative. Complaining about lost opportunities is fucking cringe.", "Isn't that the truth. Seems like the slogan for this government." ], [ "you know why someone was being called bloody moron.\nWhy local people choose to advertise through Meta, Google and Tiktok? because of better advertising reach, sales conversion, and analytics. Bloody moron can show to the public and see if local media can provide some technological and marketing impact compare to these companies.\nHe mentioned 2 billion lost advertising revenue to Meta, Google, Tiktok, so how much increase in revenue for the local companies because of advertising through those channels? and how much is the increase in income tax. Moron do realized advertising Meta, Google and Tiktok actually means local companies can reach and sell products and services to overseas, which local media can't, right, moron?", "So you are the PR for Fahmi. Canada launched C-18 bill in June 2023. In August, Meta stop showing news in Canada, eliminating the chance for revenue sharing at all. So I don't know how you come up with \"70 million dollars\" in 6 months. If companies have no interests in revenue sharing model, they just stop letting news to show up in their network at all.", "Here https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2023/nov/29/google-canada-online-news-act-agreement-publishers\nThere is no revenue sharing model right now, that’s the issue.", "Comment removed for breaching Reddiquette and a 1-day ban imposed as a timeout." ], [ "I think it's not as straightforward as local media unable to compete. Social media doesn't operate on the same space as media outlets. Social media doesn't produce any content but most consumers get the content via social media. So of course advertisers will want to spend more on social media since that's where consumers are. I don't think it's unreasonable to say media outlets deserve a fair share of revenue for the content the produce. Especially local media who don't have the global reach (and rightly so, we don't want all our content to come from foreign media)" ], [ "so where else would this 2bil go? RTM? NTV7? Astro?" ], [ "Then focus on upping our own game la" ], [ "Why not they start a digital media education campaign to educate boomers on moving on to digital age." ], [ "\"I think there should a balance so that there is a bit of return to media companies...it is still being discussed and I believe all parties can be brought to the negotiation table so that a more conducive environment could be established and realised.\nWow, cannot compete somemore got face to want a share of people's revenue. Can already tell these \"media companies\" are just their own crony run front and want a slice of the pie by doing nothing.", "People revenue,lol. Let support foreign monopoly to suck us dry.", "Its called open competition. Where you want to hide?", "Okay, I see that you have been going around flaming by calling other users idiots. I'm imposing a one-day ban as a timeout." ], [ "Good then." ], [ "Skill issue. Local media didn't get good and expect to be profitable." ], [ "So what is he suggesting? Asking malaysian people to stop using the latest technology and application? Might as well we all start living in cave. So backwards mentality..." ], [ "Git gud." ], [ "Somebody (insert whatever adjective) decided that what Canada and Australia did with their laws would benefit Malaysia and somehow suggested it to him.\nIf PKR ever becomes an opposition party again, I pray this minister / ex minister by then to not raise this point, because if this becomes reality, the party can cry \"where's our freedom of information\" because this is the guy that will implement what Canada and Australia did." ], [ "Local media loses that revenue because they failed to do a good job for readers. Nobody is forcing the public to go use Meta, Google and tikki. Local media could have created all the same platforms but instead they spent it on what exactly?" ], [ "People do business, they choose whichever benefits them the most. Social media is the trend, and local media cannot compete with them in terms of advertising strength, targeting strength and generating revenue. If we can’t follow up with the trends, what lies ahead us will be destruction.", "What trend, tell me what Fahmi is trying to solve here. I believe you have no clue about the issue here.", "What trend? You should stop living in your own bubble. People are scrolling on Facebook, Instagram, tt all day. That’s the trend. How many people still watch Tv programme nowadays? Since you so pro, come, tell me what he’s trying to do. Saving local media by imposing more bill and taxes? Or continue the same business model again and again? Come, enlightened me abit.", "Sure.\nLocal news agencies publish their news in their site, their social media and so on. Their revenue depends on the number of views they get. The more viewers they get, there is higher chance of them putting ads and measure the user traffic to convinces the brands to put ad campaigns in their sites. This gives consistent revenue stream since print media is close to dead and not everyone can enjoy subscription model.\nHowever, Google and Meta crawl through news sites and collect excerpts and host it in their own server. In some cases most of the breaking news available in those 4 - 5 lines of excerpts. Google and FB shows ads in the search results and main page which has the news excerpts. This means these tech giants profiting from local media's work. If you don't enter the news media site, they won't get paid. Google and Meta profiteering from local news agency articles and not giving any money to these news agency whole made these articles available. In google's case, AMP links means the entire articles will be cached and hosted in Google server. This means the article will be served by google and the ad revenue goes to Google.\nFahmi wants to prevent this. Fahmi wants google and meta stop crawling to news site or have an agreement with news agency to have a revenue sharing model. The act should also stop / or have a agreement on how excerpts are presented.\nAre we the first country to do this? No. Canada with its C-18 bill already did this. This has brought Google to discussion table with their news agency and got an healthy revenue sharing model ( 70 million CAD / year ).", "Yes the c18, thank you for the explanation. In short, by charging the big corps, we can view and searched the news online through fb and google, correct? And if they refused to pay, we won’t be seeing Malaysian news on fb and google correct?\nHave they observed the long terms consequences on this? Meta aka the most popular social media, has refused to pay. How it will affect local communities and business? As I can see here, the possible consequences are but limited to, 1. Access to Information- By preventing Google and Meta from crawling news sites, it might limit access to valuable information for the public. These platforms serve as primary sources of news for many people, and restricting their access could hinder the dissemination of important news and updates. 2.Reduced Traffic- Local news agencies benefit from the exposure they get on Google and Meta platforms. Restricting their presence on these platforms could lead to a significant drop in traffic to their websites. This, in turn, might reduce their advertising revenue from local businesses who rely on online visibility.\nThere are a few more like unlicensed local news agency, fb page and group, plagiarism etc. What’s their plan to counter these consequences?", "Good back and forth. Protectionist policies, while well-intentioned, usually come with unexpected second and third-order effects.", "Meta aka the most popular social media, has refused to pay\nYeah you won't see the news in FB. But that means FB will loose news engagement which I believe quite a significant engagement.\nBy preventing Google and Meta from crawling news sites, it might limit access to valuable information for the public\nCorrect but who is getting paid in this process? The crawler or the producer? Ideally both and it should be producers' right to protect their contents. News agency want people's view and not bot's view. Technically not possible to differentiate the type of view. Hence where the law comes into play.\nThe others are valid problems we face now but gotta start somewhere." ], [ "koyak lagi ke sampai nak ungkit sampai sini.\nMeta, google, tiktok represent a new cheaper way for small business to advertise. Local media cant compete because they are too fucking expensive in the first place. That 2b advertisement revenue, are 0 revenue without meta, google or tiktok." ], [ "Luckily they didn't blame the nons" ], [ "Taking a a page from Canada and Australia Media Laws then", "Yes. The law in Australia was fully paid for by Newscorp and the law in Canada was fully paid for by Roger Communications.\nPure cronyism." ], [ "Laws like Australia's News Media Bargaining Code primarily benefit large publishers. Such laws should only cover small publishers." ], [ "all the news I see abt him is him complaining and him doing smth wrong" ], [ "Moron dot com" ], [ "Make printed media great again!!!??!?" ], [ "Hehe loses or he lost them in the midst of transferring" ], [ "How is this guy still a minister, please let Gobind take his place" ], [ "What they dont realise is that those “foreign media” also helped countless Msians expand their businesses overseas/globally. Guess the local media co’s could have an agenda to enforce a compulsory local spend perhaps ?", "When it comes to money.. anything goes" ], [ "People who doesn’t understand the industry talk nonsense in this comment section.\nFrom ad inventory, DSP all controlled by Google and Meta. You can’t go against these tech giants with dumb takes like ohh free market. You get crushed.\nThe media industry barely surviving in current revenue model, if google can circumvent going articles site and just showing excerpts, they’re monetizing someone’s work on their website which has ads. How is this ethical? Why they can do that? because no law is against that. That’s what Fahmi wants to fix. Understand the issue first!\nCanada’s similar Bill C-18 brought 70 million CAD back to their country. Tell me if that’s just small change! It is huge, and there should be proper revenue sharing model!", "fuck media,cant wait all em die", "I read all your comments and seems that you're very defensive on the article but not being too objective on educating on what's the real issue. In fact if you didn't point out that it's about saving the local journalism scene, I wouldn't know otherwise.\nThe article itself didn't mention anything about journalism shrinking, nor about the giant platform \"stealing\" links and putting out excerpt and profit that way. It also didn't mention anything about going the route of revenue sharing such as C-18. It was all you.\nI went and did a quick read on Bill C-18, while it did get back 70mil CAD, but I feel it's still a controversial method to save the journalism industry.\nInstead, what was implied by the article, are the ads revenue are flowing outwards to giant tech. To me, if it's regarding journalism or the news, is only a subset of the local media. What about entertainment?\nHowever, as someone who advertise, what choice do I have? My company used to put in 180k annually on newspaper and magazines, and it's only a very small fish in the huge pond. What i get is:\n- newspaper: 1 day per month for a quarter size bottom section, black and white, 2nd page\n- magazine: 1 full color page on 3-5 issue on the back inlet page\nNow, doing ads is a different game.\nI get much more options: social media, search ads, marketplace ads, video ads, etc.\nI also get much more control: audience targetting, intent targetting, geo-targetting\nI then get analytics: conversion reports, awareness reports\nI get a control panel to manage all these.\nAgain, what sound choice should I make? Magazines are a done deal since BluInc went down. I still get offers from local newspaper, but it's always a package deal to have 1 spread, while the digital part is free. I may or may not get some sort of report, if i ask.\nHonestly, i understand it's brutal that global companies are eating into local ones. But it is what it is, they have to improve. I mean, if the media's main revenue is ads, why is the structure around ads still so weak?\nhttps://www.malaymail.com/advertise - the only CTA is email, no promise of reports\nhttps://advertising.thestar.com.my/ - CTA is enquiry form, lots of info on late fees\nPlease make it a fighting chance.", "The main problem I’m having here is how offensive people went with good intention of the ministry.As tho it sounded like Fahmi just got arrested for corruption or scandals.\nBack to the point, the article clearly stated that Malaysia lacks revenue sharing model and a mechanism should be identified to force platforms give proper shares back to authors.\nI don’t think you understand the tech here, MKini or Star don’t specifically build all the ads. There is fixed template, and they all subscribe to SSP ( supply side platform ). Google is still major player here. Your company would be using DSP to push your ads. SSP and DSP will communicate to choose ads / space based on parameters. In this case, DSP will pay to SSP and SSP will pay huge portion back to space / site owner. This is not the issue here.\nBut what google and meta now doing is, they discouraging users from going into the news site, which means there is clear lost in revenue. This still wouldn’t be an issue. But Google and Meta use these articles, train their AI, they use portion of the article on their site.\nThis isn’t ethical, because they’re using someone’s effort without paying them. Google and Meta isn’t small struggling startups, so forcing them to pay for the materials they have used isn’t terribly bad.\nWould you be fine if another youtube cut your youtube video into multiple sections and put it in his channel and start earning money? Google and Meta can do this, because nothing preventing them. Someone need to tell them this is illegal that’s the role of government.", "People here don't understand. Start with 'negara mat salleh pun buat sama' then they might give it a chance", "Refreshing to see a take from somebody who is actually in the industry rather than bashing Fahmi by default", "I didn’t work in journalist field, I worked in adtech, it is so naive of these folks to think we’ve any fighting chance here,", "Cant survive too bad. World smallest violin playing." ], [ "local people do business cannot.. must be foreigner so?" ], [ "Incoming 51% requirement." ], [ "So your stonks fell off, so what?" ], [ "Local media what? Newspaper? TV? Radio? Now we have podcast and streaming services" ], [ "no shit sherlock" ], [ "Why not let companies decide where they want to advertise?" ], [ "Nobody cares" ], [ "How can you lose something you never had?" ], [ "Local media is shit." ], [ "And whose fault is that?" ] ]

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[ [ "Let the company know that you have withdrawn your consent in writing. Under the PDPA, they cannot process your personal data anymore. If they don't comply within a reasonable time, report to the PDP.", "I thought in most t&c, once you use their service, whatever information they have collected belongs to them. It doesnt matter if you withdrew consent, those data no longer belongs to you.", "Under the Retention Principle of the PDPA, personal data must be permanently deleted if it is no longer required. Disclaimer: Not legal advice.", "PDPA, like most legislation, should override contract obligations.\nSimply put, you cannot agree to do things against the law.\nIn the same way you cannot ask the court to enforce an illegal transaction (eg. Payment for a murder). You cannot ask the court to enforce an illegal obligation (eg. Allow the company to keep your data forever)\nI think." ], [ "use email plus addressing to separate them out, then filter when they abuse it, like:\nmyname+shittycompany@gmail.com\nalso good because you know who sold your email for money" ], [ "1 of the thing in Malaysia you dont fuck around is with PDPA act.\nMy workline consist of dealing with very sensitive data (before this telco and now banking).\nHR/Boss/Management never let u forget about PDPA. So afraid of it 🤣\nOnce user wanted to terminate their account, a business should not hold that customer information anymore." ], [ "I suppose it is the government's fault of not educating consumers of their rights.\nYou should complaint to the URL - https://www.pdp.gov.my/jpdpv2/aduan-pendaftaran\nOr you can bug YB Gobind on social media since the he's new Minister of Digital." ], [ "I registered interest in a property in march. Until today they still WhatsApp me. My number gets passed around from agent to agent." ], [ "I hope we start getting effective consumer privacy laws passed really soon. Something like BAFIA's 14 day holding of consumer info before mandatory destruction by the commercial agent paired with corporate non-disclosure of consumer information within the database as well as mandatory and convenient removal upon request by the consumer." ] ]

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[ [ "How is a legal marriage possible if the girl is underage?", "I worked at a centre teaching refugees, I asked why no one was over 13 still there?\nI was told the boys run off to work in building sites and the girls were often forced into prostitution. Marriage would be better from parents eyes. Aim was to get them sent to Canada or US etc before 13.\nSome girls were raped at another volunteer school while walking home, polis just said \"so what not Malaysians. We bought them all uniforms to make them look like Malaysian school girls in hope that would deter rapists (as Malaysian girls raped would be investigated).\nHard life for refugees.", "It's not legal.", "actually....there's a loophole in the law which allows underage marriage\nso asalkan the 'authorities' approves it under Islamic Family Law, then yes.\nSource: The Star <How Malaysia can get serious about child marriage>", "Yes, but we were talking about the specific case of the Rohingya girls. Their marriages have not received approval by the authorities, so these marriages are not legal.", "hmm, yes and no i suppose.\ncoz i'm unsure if the authorities would permit the marriage (under islamic law) between a M'sian and a undocumented Rohingya refugees. If yes, then legal lo.", "It is impossible for the authorities to approve the marriage of an undocumented person. The procedures simply do not allow it.", "Passport takde macam mana nak kahwin bang", "I think he meant marrying undocumented refugee. If this is Muslim marriage, they likely have to fill in the marriage forms. You need to put IC passport on that form.", "That depends on whether these are legal refugees or not right?", "There's no \"legal\" refugees here. Gomen doesn't recognise asylum.", "kalau refugee already illegal....then the marriage legal or not....no longer relevant", "The islamic authorities should not accept a child postorder bride. They are disgusting.", "https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2018/07/396076/11-and-married-malaysia-spars-over-child-brides", "", "Giving women equal rights and abandoning slavery and apartheid is also modern stuff. Its called progress.", "Indeed." ], [ "The part that stood out for me is that it is Rohingya men who are taking advantage of and abusing the women of their own race. I would have thought that their shared trauma would cause them to have more empathy for the suffering of others.\nDeteriorating conditions in Myanmar and in neighbouring Bangladesh’s refugee camps are driving scores of underage Rohingya girls to Malaysia for arranged marriages with Rohingya men who frequently abuse them, The Associated Press found in interviews with 12 young Rohingya brides who have arrived in Malaysia since 2022. The youngest was 13.\nAll the girls interviewed said they are held hostage by controlling husbands who rarely let them outside. Several said they were beaten and raped by traffickers and other men during the journey to Malaysia, and five said they were abused by their husbands.", "And where did they get those kind of money in the first place? And a house?", "Come from a wartorn country bringing nothing, Cannot work, Cannot go school, cannot do business\nThen when they are basically forced into squalor and crime, :shocked pikachu face:", "I'm sad but not surprised. I used to volunteer for human trafficking survivors shelter. there's a whole criminal syndicate of rohingya trafficking their own people into msia just to beg, prostitute, rob, etc. These include children. IMO Malaysia needs to do better for refugees' rights to prevent these from happening", "To have empathy means you are raised to treat your significant other half as your equal, not an breeding/sex machine" ], [ "In a bedroom in Malaysia that has become a prison, a 14-year-old girl wipes away tears as she sits cross-legged on the concrete floor. It is here, she says, where her 35-year-old husband rapes her nearly every night.\nWhat the actual fuck? Arrest the \"husband\" asap.", "Marital rape isn't illegal here my friend. You can rape your wife as much as you want, that is not a crime in Malaysia.\nThis has been a massive issue for years now and the politicians trying to make it illegal are always met with resistance about \"culture\" and \"interference\", the readers can decide for themselves which side of politics wants to stop it and the other side who doesn't.\nhttps://aseanmp.org/2020/11/09/malaysian-governments-decision-to-keep-section-375-of-the-penal-code-which-does-not-criminalize-marital-rape-shows-it-is-regressive-patriarchal-and-a-threat-to-women-from-all-walks-of-lif/", "Idk why but my mind always goes to that particular party that likes the green colour whenever this topic comes up.", "From my other link here:\nBut an effort to outlaw underage unions for all Malaysians amid the toughening of child sex crime legislation failed in Parliament. Arguing against the ban, Shabudin Yahaya, a legislator from what was then the governing party, said that a girl as young as 9 could be ready for marriage if she had gone through puberty.\n“Their body is already akin to them being 18 years old,” Shabudin, a former Shariah court judge, said in a parliamentary session. “So physically and spiritually, it is not a barrier for the girl to marry.”\nMohamad Amar Nik Abdullah, Kelantan’s deputy chief minister and vice president of Pas, stressed that child marriage was legal in Islam and said the country had more pressing social issues to address.\nHe said the existence of homosexuals and single parents in Malaysia “should be a concern for our government and society.”\nhmmmm", "a girl as young as 9 could be ready for marriage if she had gone through puberty.\n“Their body is already akin to them being 18 years old,” Shabudin\n...\nThey're still kids. They have a much higher chance of dying from giving birth at that young of an age as their body is still not grown enough to support making a whole ass human being inside them.\nHoly fuck.", "EDP don’t compare to this depraved sort of shit, what the hell is wrong with these people. A girl who hasn’t even reached double digits in their age yet could end up suddenly getting hitched in this country.\nPeople supporting this shit deserve whippings and the chair itself, this is disgusting", "What the hell is this? I guess I shouldn't be surprised.", "“Their body is already akin to them being 18 years old,” Shabudin, a former Shariah court judge, said in a parliamentary session. “So physically and spiritually, it is not a barrier for the girl to marry.”\nHoly fucking shit...", "Shabudin, a former Shariah Court jugde\nA fucking shariah court judge at that. May shariah court rot in hell. Fucking bastard dirty child fucker.", "Fucking disgusting and insane people do support this kind of dogshit .", "And then they call us Islamophobia. Fucking fucked up. Here's the link btw https://www.todayonline.com/world/11-and-married-malaysia-spars-over-child-brides#:~:text=%E2%80%9CTheir%20body%20is%20already%20akin%20to%20them%20being%2018%20years%20old%2C%E2%80%9D%20Mr%20Shabudin%2C%20a%20former%20Syariah%C2%A0Court%20judge%2C%20said%20in%20a%20parliamentary%20session.%20%E2%80%9CSo%20physically%20and%20spiritually%2C%20it%20is%20not%20a%20barrier%20for%20the%20girl%20to%20marry.%E2%80%9D", "They love this shit", "What the actual fuck. What the fuck", "Marital rape does not exist under section 375 of the Penal Code, but there is a separate offence under section 375A:\nHusband causing hurt in order to have sexual intercourse\n375A. Any man who during the subsistence of a valid marriage causes hurt or fear of death or hurt to his wife or any other person in order to have sexual intercourse with his wife shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to five years.", "Good luck with your prosecution of that.\n\"hurt\" in these people's minds is not rape, you need to literally violently beat the woman after rape and then the courts might take you seriously\nCan you show us some cases where marital rape has been prosecuted successfully under 375a?" ], [ "Screencap of the article\n<image>", "thank you" ], [ "So the husband is malaysian or rohingya man? The article specifically said tht many rohingya girls are married to rohingya man in malaysia.\nAny action taken onto the husband yet? Since they have found the actual room tht the girl is trapped in? How did they found her?\nSo many question and the article didn't provide any answer. I don't care about story of a girl. I care more about details that can help us stop this atrocity.", "The article title is again as usual clickbaity.. and I can already foresee a bunch of headline readers in this sub is going to make some racist comments . Mods you going to have your work cut out for you today XD", "It's not really clickbaity. It doesn't mislead and it is the general sentiment of the whole article.", "Read the replies of this post", "I don't care about story of a girl. I care more about details that can help us stop this atrocity.\nThat's not going to happen since religion is one of the main reason (or maybe even the only reason) why this happens." ], [ "Wtf" ], [ "Feel? My sister in Allah, you ARE trapped." ], [ "Seriously, this is some shit I would expect to happen in other places of the world. They already suffered enough to become refugees, why the hell add to that? Theres a special place in hell for people like this and all those damn politicians who made this possible.", "dear keyboard warrior\nthose word means nothing to help them.." ], [ "This also implies we have MANY Rohingya sexual predators here. Something needs to be done.", "Deport them back or send them to Nauru or Rwanda" ], [ "they were abused by their husbands\nAbusers must be arrested" ], [ "If you are refugee in Malaysia, our gomen don’t recognise refugee in our country. Even they get UN refugee card, our gomen don’t allow them to work, receive any public funds like education, transport, healthcare etc. So apa nak jadi? They live in poverty, they will marry and have babies, which is basic human rights, and then no money, anak tak boleh gi sekolah, if sakit, they have to endure or self medicate and local Malaysian just hate them. Their everyday existence is traumatic and abusive. They will be like the Romani ppls in Europe. Living on the fringes. Do you not think their kids in the future will just turn to a life of crime and run their own syndicate? The seeds are being planted now. So we have 2 choices like Israel and Palestine- we remove them permanently by any means necessary or we offer them humanitarian aid and allow them to get educated and work here. They exist in our country already, its no use ignoring them. But like Israel, we Malaysians will choose the easy way.", "If you dont have the means dont bother. but countries internationally will care what we do with them even if they dont have to deal with it. I say its best to copy someone's homework and modify it based on our situation.", "bring them to your house", "Cadangan bernas. You have great potential to be politician in Msia." ], [ "Comment removed for breaching Rule 1.\nI read the whole article and there's no mention at all that the husband is a Muslim. Please refrain from making religious mocks and jabs when even the article itself is vague." ], [ "And the people who are so incensed at what is happening in Gaza are the same ones perpetrating this injustice against the Rohingya women and girls right in our backyards. The hypocrisy!" ], [ "god damn..." ], [ "damnnn..\nthats how \"Keluar Mulut Buaya, Masuk Mulut Harimau\" proverb/pepatah is exists...\nKeluar mulut buaya = religions/gov issue in Rohingya\nMasuk mulut harimau = getting abused in Malaysia" ], [ "SO THATS WHY YOU FUCKERS WANT TO ACCEPT ROHINGYA REFUGEES?\ni always sympathize ALL refugees. but i have a hard stance. not my problem. dont make it my problem. if you want to help them. YOU help them. dont make my tax payer money go to them.\nnever forget. back during MCO instead of helping our government got people to take down their white flags instead of helping.\nthey also rather have a majlis perasmian penolongan mangsa banjir.\nour money should help our people first.", "lmao do you really think this represents all the people who want to accept Rohingya refugees? The fact that the government DOES NOT recognise these refugees is the reason why these families think that trafficking their children is their only option. If they could come here and work and live reasonably, this wouldn’t be happening.\nyou think it’s not your problem until this shit happens to you one day and you wonder why there isn’t anyone helping. we all really need more empathy and less cynicism in our lives.", "sadly, i am selfish. if a person needs help and i can afford to help i would help.\nbut if i m not in a position to help, i ll let someone else help.\nsure its bleak. but i m being a realist. for sure, if i need help i would prefer if people helped me. but i know this world is bleak.\nscammers exist. corruption exist.\nmercy is a luxury. if you can afford luxury, i envy you.", "that’s fine bro. I just hope you don’t find yourself in a position where you need other people’s mercy but you can’t find it", "Like the Palestine thing, yes I understand our government stance on this but the shok sendiri event held for it was unnecessary. Even Aman Palestine is one huge Ponzi scam now.\nIt was just a feel good thing / virtue signalling and same goes to Rohingya. Just for optics but no long term planning.", "Aman Palestine is not a Ponzi scheme....its just a NGO misusing the funds.\nPonzi Scheme is getting new members to financially contribute to the upper tier members", "you're not wrong, but i believe he was using ponzi as an easy to identify example.\ntho ponzi is usually known by boomers lol not the newer generation.", "You are correct. Was using it as an example on how people can prey on one’s moral obligation to contribute to a cause." ], [ "Rohingya underage married a Rohingya guy in Malaysia.Tsk tsk, sent both back Myanmar before their kids become Malaysian.", "They keep the kid so kid can vote", "They will have better lives here compared with their homeland" ], [ "Certain... ppl... are...." ], [ "CAN THEY SPEAK MALAY THOUGH???" ], [ "Hope this article would be the trigger warning for any Roghinya that want to enter Malaysia", "You’re assuming they would read this or understand English." ], [ "Soo where to find these unluvky girls though" ], [ "So how do we help these victims?" ], [ "How about we read what's the article all about. Sounds good?" ], [ "Sudenly this become malaysia problem" ] ]

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[ [ "tldr: law struck down because it discriminates against one gender (i.e., if a woman does it to a married man she can't be charged).", "Well, no woman has ever done it for me. Sad face.", "So penyondol can be charged now?" ], [ "under Article 162, the courts can amend any pre-Merdeka law like Section 498 of the Penal Code so that it is in accord with the Federal Constitution\nWhat pre-Merdeka law still exists?" ], [ "So cuckhold is legal now? Judging by the clickbaiting title it is.\nBut I am sure there is nuance in the hundreds pages of legalese that no one, not you or me, nor politician going to read anyway. Someone will say something asap, especially call for syariah law and rejam the cuckhold instead.", "It was always legal, it's just that being a seducer aint.", "You can still sue for damages against both fellas in a divorce petition." ], [ "Women can lie about their marriage status" ], [ "An orgasm is an orgasm." ] ]

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[ [ "Can share a bit more information about your job? Are there any background checks or interviews with known associates involved during the process?", "I’m currently unemployed, the job I am applying for is for a boiler engineering role. No additional checks have been disclosed on part of the employer" ], [ "Did they specifically request/mention for evidence of chronic depression and anxiety, or is this a conjecture you came up with? Following up from that, is your employer an SME/GLC, or an MNC? Context really matters here.", "They have only requested for my medical history, I have a written health report from my NHS GP from when I was studying. The company is an MNC.", "Right, your situation is somewhat peculiar in that it is both broad and specific at the same time and there is large amount of nuance so my feedback is going to be long but general:\nIts not unusual for MNC's to request/require for a health checkup for positions (especially if the roles involve physical work). Whats a bit strange is asking specifically for medical history, especially in a Malaysian context since this would involve multiple PDPA sign offs as health information is classified as \"Sensitive Personal Data\" which involve a specific type of PDPA notice.\nOn the topic of mental health - whilst mental health conditions fall within the ambit of S29 of the Persons with Disabilities Act 2008, employment can be refused on the legitimate grounds that the mental health condition impairs (or could potentially impair) a candidate's ability to carry out their duties. In any event, S29 protection only applies to specific types of mental health issues, and must be signed of by a psychiatrist that has been treating the patient for not less than 2 years, so its unlikely to apply in 95% of these types of cases. Source: https://www.jkm.gov.my/jkm/uploads/files/JPOKU/Bahan%20Artikel%20Risalah%20GP/BPPOKU%20PINDAAN%202019.pdf\nComing back to your scenario, MNC's that operate in multiple jurisdictions (especially Large, Western based ones) generally have a more accepting view on mental health disorders (including depression and anxiety) as part of their diversity, equity and inclusion framework. As a result, they are more likely to give candidates with these disorders opportunities to prove themselves (i.e. hire them and see how they function).\nBased on the above, my duggestion would be (a) to write back to the manager asking what they are really asking for (e.g. do they want you to go for a health checkup at one of their panel clinics? Or are they asking you to request your family doctor to provide your health records?); and (b) visit a Malaysian psychiatrist for an assessment and request them to provide a letter specifically stating (i) whether you still suffer from depression and/or anxiety, taking into account your earlier diagnosis from the NHS; (ii) the nature of these conditions and whether they impact your ability to work; and (iii) the type of treatments you are undergoing to mitigate these impacts (if any)." ] ]

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[ [ "Best way for PMX to deal with this is let Sabah/Sarawak/GPS do the talking.", "Honestly that may be the best political move, just diam saja and let Sabah/Sarawak do all the condemning. If Bersatu/PAS want to win they will need help from Sabah/Sarawak so they can’t openly tell east Malaysia to shut up. Sabah & Sarawak sound like they won’t tolerate all the Ketuanan Islam/Melayu rhetoric.\nAs a non-Bumi West Malaysian, Sabah and Sarawak seem like our last defense against Malaysia turning far right.", "Come come here." ], [ "Change consitution so that Malay can have freedom of religion, just like the ancient times. /s" ], [ "What's the point in all these.....last last org kito PM jugak. Why don't they spend time on more productive things? Stupid Wayang!", "Why work when you can just talk kok all day long? Salary + allowance still the same" ], [ "I got a better suggestion\nPM & DPM, one of them must be East Malaysian, the other remaining must be west Malaysian, and then we cannot have two DPM like now.\nmacam ni baru fair." ], [ "Wonder what PH hardcore supporters going to say.\nSupport your tree people or the opposition?", "Obviously not the one who always say nons are pendatang." ], [ "WAF effectively dashed any chance of PN winning allies and seats in Borneo. Hamzah, Moo and Hadi facepalms." ], [ "You know. I've been wondering. What's Saratok and Beluran MPs' reaction to Wan Fayshal's statement? 😅" ] ]

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[ [ "Inspired by this thread by u/EverSoInfinite comparing the minister list from 2020 and 2023, I've geeked out completely and compiled a breakdown of the party affiliation of each minister and deputy minister from Najib in 2018 to Anwar in 2023.\nThe party names on the left of the chart correspond to their present day (2023) coalition, though their coalitions under different PMs may be different, and hence they're coloured as such accordingly. (e.g. Bersatu before Sheraton coloured under PH as PN didn't exist back then).\nThe PN-BN backdoor Sheraton government really gave out a lot of pork barrel ministries, surpassing even the ministries given out by Najib. Particularly in the number of deputy ministers, where as many as 5 departments had 2 deputy ministers, which was utterly unnecessary.\nAnwar's cabinet has cut down on the minister numbers considerably, with only 1 deputy minister for each ministry.\nBut Dr M's PH administration still has less ministers and deputy ministers overall than Anwar's current cabinet, most likely due to Anwar needing to keep UMNO and GPS happy, whereas Dr M only needed to manage 4 parties who were then nominally under the same coalition.\nFeedback is most welcome (Please be gentle)" ], [ "UMNO has way too many seats in the current administration, vs their actual MPs. it should be less than DAP, since they already have DPM post" ], [ "Perhaps a good data but awful presentation. Please help us plebs visualize better.", "Where would you suggest to improve?", "Translating to charts would be a good start. Pie charts to show the different parties or a simple barchart to show annual changes of minister count", "Thanks. Will give it a go once I have time." ], [ "As a reminder, Deputy Minister isn't a member of the Cabinet. They aren't even invited into the Cabinet meeting.", "True. Those positions are just created to make the parties feel they're noticed properly by the PM." ], [ "Goes to show that it's sometimes not as easy as outright picking the best candidates for the role, there's party/coalition ratios to satisfy as well as the sabah/sarawak aspect as well" ] ]

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[ [ "I recently go both pejabat pos and LHDN (Sabah)\nPejabat pos = yep, almost all setem finish this month.\nLHDN = need to berbaris to fill the form for setem." ], [ "How this gonna affect you? So if want to buy house need to bank in 10k ?", "Those dipshits who want the Setem duti for every single damned contract are just going to have to wait.\nOld counter system was way faster, go there, pay and get it done on the spot.\nThe new STAMPs system, the one simple task takes 2 weeks. So much for digitalization making things faster.", "Nah not 2 week.\n1-3 days only, coz I done e-stamping for rental", "For common agreements should be that short.\nI was getting something worth in the hundreds of thousands stamp duti-ed.\nI done two of them, one before STAMPS and after. STAMPS took multiple phone calls to finally resolve. Like they kept losing the file or something.", "Why need 2 weeks ? They want to confirm the payment or something?" ], [ "Assuming we have a document that needs to be redone, but it requires setem hasil. What do we do if it's after 2024?" ] ]

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[ [ "Anyone know who he is referring to? so juicy", "This one?", "i mean the politician and wife" ], [ "This is a story straight out of some Hollywood action movie / video game." ] ]

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[ [ "I saw videos of victims, still smiling, after losing their family members and limbs.\n\"Alhamdulillah\" Said the woman with no legs. Her niblings and sisters were killed. She herself was almost killed. She was sleeping, and she woke up as she was falling to the ground. That's a literal nightmare to me. She's smiling.\n\"Alhamdulillah\" Said the man with no limbs.\n\"Alhamdulillah\" Said the man holding a baby in white shroud.\nI find it admirable." ], [ "I will be travelling to malaysia next week.\nMalaysia currency has dropped from 1 gbp to 3.9 myr in 2022 and now its 1 gbp to 5.8 myr. what's wrong with malaysia in the past year. I guess all imports had also increased by 50%?" ], [ "Kesian (just in case) but is this real or fake news ?\nhttps://www.indiatvnews.com/news/world/turkish-mp-who-suffered-heart-attack-in-parliament-after-threatening-israel-with-god-s-wrath-dies-hamas-war-gaza-recep-erdogan-latest-updates-2023-12-14-907318" ] ]

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[ [ "Welcome to the northern Sarawak :)" ], [ "Heyy bro, atleast not like me last time. I missed a chop ( I gave passport to the officer and he forgot to chop)... Next stop point scold me and tell me to turn back, must check if I get proper chop next time.\n💪👍", "I missed a chop ( I gave passport to the officer and he forgot to chop)... Next stop point scold me and tell me to turn back, must check if I get proper chop next time.\nYou were lucky then. Take a look at this case, and there were many other cases, too, involving \"CHOPS\"\nhttps://www.asiaone.com/singapore/singaporean-and-friends-detained-malaysia-7-days-over-unstamped-passports\nHere's another separate case that's been reported\nhttps://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/singaporean-faces-passport-issue-at-malaysian-checkpoint" ], [ "Sipitang Express runs daily between Bdr Seri Begawan, Brunei and Kota Kinabalu.\nFrom BSB, it departs 8am every Tue, Thu, Sat\nFrom KK, it departs 7.30am every Mon, Wed, Fri\nYou need to go thru customs checks 8 times last time (not sure about now since they have a new bridge in Brunei linking Bandar to Temburong). There are stopovers in Limbang and Lawas to pick-up/drop off passengers and for toilet and lunch breaks.\nIt was a very interesting trip especially as someone from the Semenanjung. However, the fares can be a bit too expensive nowadays, RM150.\nJourney time is about 7-10 hours depending on traffic conditions.", "Really cool, thanks for sharing OP! Always wanted to explore the Miri/Brunei/Limbang/Lawas areas!" ], [ "So if you repeat journey a few more times, you need a new passport ?" ] ]

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[ [ "Many good points made in the report. I agree with almost all of them. 1 year into power shows that he's all talk no action. Everything he criticize the past governments of, he's literally doing it himself. All the reforms he promised dead in the water especially on tackling corruption and cronyism.", "Yeah. He is just too carefully afraid on what to talk and what to implement in the unity government. He would rather havr status quo instead of making changes than pisses off the other non PH coalition. In a nutshell, he's the boss in Malaysia but have an invisible leash by BN.", "That's who he really is. Reformasi is just a scam to get people to vote for him. He's literally a UMNO guy in and out.", "UMNO with leaning economy liberal leader. You are right 👍", "He's going to kill all hopes of reformation for the next 10 years.", "Nahhh it's already dead, sudden death syndrome from refomasi to refomati.", "That honour goes to the kataks.", "If he was a liberal leader focusing on the economy I would not be complaning. Everything he do since elected is just trying to win Malay votes and going full out on Islam.", "Yeah. You have to change the people's mindset than changing the leaders. If you're liberal and the voters are majority a conservatives? You have no choice but to win their hearts just to survive.", "If you're liberal and the voters are majority a conservatives?\nWow, you and Anwar forgot who put him in power.", "If.... But yeah, who can't forget Anwar's number 1 mentor. Horseshit is still a shit even though it came from a horse.", "During M's first term, Malaysia's economy was one of the strongest in Asia. Even Asian Economic Crisis also small impact on our economy. Second term also better than Anwar.\nDon't try to blame M for Anwar's failures. I don't know why you keep making excuses for this guy.", "cause he inherited from najib, then after M, everything go downwards, luckily covid come, so everyone blame covid instead of M", "The only liberal thing about Anwar is who he do it with in the bedroom..", "he's all talk no action\nHe's acting the way the \"Malaysian\" voters want him to. Malaysian voters want him to spend all his time on Palestine, so guess what, that's why he's flying around to OIC and UN and other shit that is completely useless for actual Malaysians.\nHe can't lead because Malaysian voters smack him hard each time he tries to lead them on a road to a future modern civilized country instead of a road to a shithole.", "He's acting the way the \"Malaysian\" voters want him to.\nNope he won elections by promising to be a progressive leader, not the same leader who panders to Malay votes like his predecessors.\nhe tries to lead them on a road to a future modern civilized country\nWe must be living in different countries. Anwar only PM for 1 year and fuck up left and right but somehow you experience the road to modern civilized future.", "Nope he won elections by promising to be a progressive leader\nPlease show me where he promised that.", "Please show me where he promised that.\nWhy don't you show us where he did not promise that?", "Why don't you show us where he did promise that?", "What kind of dumb defence is this? You make a claim and when someone asks you to prove your claim you ask them back instead? Onus is on you to prove you are not talking out your ass.", "Yea, like I am going to waste time finding when Anwar said that exact phrase throughout his 30+ year career as a politician.", "Which just shows your argument is weak at best because you can't / won't back it up. Right now your \"proof\" is \"trust me bro\" lol. No one is going to take what you say seriously since you yourself won't take your own claims seriously.", "Thank god I wasted the minimum time on people like you .", "This is what I admire about Mahathir is how he iron fisted his way during his 21 years as the 4th PM. Even as kid I recognized his iron fisted rules, though that is only on the surface.\nAs we all know, he have a lot of cronies to feed, the only reason anyone under him keep their ego and bigotry in check, Malaysia then was full of potential wealth to \"distribute\" under his \"trickle down\" economic policy.\nThis is probably Anwar's failing. He still thinks like the 4th PM Mahathir. Malaysia doesn't have that much \"undistributed\" wealth anymore. Because of that Anwar can't feed his war dogs (as much), and also that is his reformasi against BN.", "This is what I admire about Mahathir is how he iron fisted his way during his 21 years\nThanks to his iron fisting, the country is totally fucked. He iron fisted the judiciary. Look at this shit that all fisted into the judiciary now. Totally fucked.", "Which everyone was happy to sacrifise, along with other things, for the economic returns for the long 21 years.\nThe one thing I'm surprised was Mahathir allowed almost freedom to use the internet. I guess that is the price Mahathir have to pay to attract FDI and he settled with just Operasi Lalang.", "Which everyone was happy to sacrifise\nno, just the dumb voters", "Dammed if you do, dammed if you don't.", "Menang tahu. Lepas menang apa pun tak tahu.\nPolitics is not football. There are responsibilities to uphold after winning.", "Lepas menang show true colors la bro. Acting for 20+ years very tiring.", "What do you expect him to do when all the effective reforms requires fundamental change that will anger the majority?", "Expect him to do what he promised. If he can't do what he promised, I have the right to criticize him. Unless you wanna be Fahmi and report my comment because I criticize Anwar.", "Chill, but he can't do those reforms you want because it would go against the majority and he won't even survive to the next term let alone get reelected. If he is not in power, then how he gonna do those reforms you want? If you don't want him in power, do you have better alternative?", "If you don't want him in power, do you have better alternative?\nI rather let anyone else have a chance besides Anwar at this point. That's after voting for PH for the last 3 elections.\nIf he is not in power, then how he gonna do those reforms you want?\nHe clearly doesn't believe in reformasi, you still believe? Wake up bro.", "PH didn't get the majority bro. I bet you have lost all memories of what happened to PH after trying to do quick reform after the 2018 election. Remember how Mujahid Yusoff Rawa name was dragged through the mud and Amanah basically lost a lot of Malay voters after trying to help with the right of LGBT. Remember how PH was smeared again with the Jawi scandal by Mahathir?\nYou need to wake up bro, Malaysia is still a conservative country. You can't do quick reform or else you're gonna be buried alive by all those conservative voters.", "PH didn't get the majority bro.\nSo? Did not get majority means can betray all their promises?\nYou need to wake up bro, Malaysia is still a conservative country. You can't do quick reform or else you're gonna be buried alive by all those conservative voters.\nYou sure you are awake? Got reform going on in this country?", "They are trying to push for progressive income, is that not a reform on the salary structure in Malaysia? They are pushing hard on renewable energy with netr, isn't that a reform in energy sector? They managed to pass for dasar teknologi nuklear malaysia that allow for regulation in nuclear technology. AG office seperation of power reform is in the work and under progress. They also have broken a lot of monopolies like TnG and Puspakom. They also pushing for targeted subsidies to reform our subsidies system.\nSo what kind of reform are you expecting? The reform on race policy? Do you not see the sentiment of Malays in Malaysia now? Don't be naive bro, Malay people is still the majority, do you think you can pass the policy against the Malays interest without their support?\nYou not only see whether the reforms you want can be passed, you also need to see whether the reform can be kept in place in the future. Every reform can be undone easily if anwar lost the next election.", "Yeah put to words perfectly what I can't or won't write. That guy seems like he never been in any type of leadership role, which is understandable.", "I’m not at all versed in politics but I was under the impression UMNO is essentially stopping him from doing what he promised.", "but I was under the impression UMNO is essentially stopping him from doing what he promised.\nI thought so too because he said so. Now he's elected and UMNO is his best friend. PKR is like UMNO 2.0 and he's behaving like those UMNO leaders he has been criticizing all these years.", "i am surprised so many people buying into the reform shit. i thought after 2018, we all knew they are all cut from the same cloth. he is basically just saying shit so he can get his slice of the pie too. after that just try his best to stay in power as long as possible.", "i am surprised so many people buying into the reform shit.\nHard not to believe when he's been saying the same thing for the last 20+ years. He basically claimed that he was kicked out of UMNO because the tried to reform the corruption and cronyism inside.\nI personally voted for PH ever since GE13 because I believed this liar." ], [ "Gareth Leather, a senior analyst with London-based economic and financial consultancy Capital Economics, also forecast a slowdown for Malaysia's growth, and \"slim\" prospects of reform during Anwar's current term.\nIf Anwar had expeditiously pursued the fiscal and institutional reforms in mind, then the political coalition of MalaysiaNow’s financial backers would be making noise about how this government is trying to impoverish the rakyat, kejam, and weaken the position of the Malays and Islam.", "Its the price being in the spotlight. Accept it or just quit politics.\nSame like how PH always critic BN government (until now ).", "I’m not bothered by Leather’s commentary at all. What I’m trying to get is certain political groups and their supporters who are lapping up this criticism need to understand that the enemy of your enemy isn’t your friend." ], [ "Jay Shetty recently interviewed Nick Kyrgios. One of the things that sticks to me is how the media used him as a poster boy to sell tickets, at the same time branding him negatively. I guess it's true that once you're in the spotlight, the media and the people around will try to fuck with you to get their lil story" ], [ "Moving forward, PH core supporters will have a big dilemma. Anwar hasn’t provided anything for them to continue support. But who else can they vote for but him? PAS? PH will have no choice but to continue with Anwar", "nah just dont vote and let the country go to the dogs. sometimes you need to let things burn to the ground before they an be rebuilt anew. those who an should just leave the country for better shores" ], [ "He already said the first year was to manage the economy. Our economy is in fact not as shitty as before.\nReforms need to gradually happen. If you want things to 180 degree change in a day then that's not a reform, that's a revolution. His enemies will call him out as a dictator.\nThings have change, some reforms have been done. Yes it's slow but it has been said the first year focus was to manage the economy.\nReforms need to be balance with politic games now when it's not a PH government but a unity government.\nNanti buat reforms cepat2 sampai kerajaan jatuh kau salahkan dia jugak sebab tak pandai main politik.\nLol", "lol we know petrol subsidies is number one money drainer in financial coffer, just the smell of it being removed has all the arm chair critic tremble in fear , but somehow not patching it is still seen as indecisive and weak.\nPeople says they want reform, just not the one that actually affects them negatively", "Nanti buat reforms cepat2 sampai kerajaan jatuh kau salahkan dia jugak sebab tak pandai main politik\ndah memang game politik macam tu. Takkan nak main bola sepak tapi nak bawak bola pakai tangan mcm bola keranjang.\nTak nak main , duduk tepi , buat akaun reddit/social media, sembang kencang mcm biasa.", "Our economy is in fact not as shitty as before.\nMYR is second worst performer in Asia after Yen this year but economy not as shit as before lol. What metric you use to measure the economy performance? GDP growth can't even beat inflation at the rate our currency weakening." ], [ "PSA that malaysianow is Assmin Ali's mouthpiece ya, so that should tell you all you need to know about it", "out of the topic question...\nwhat's up with the \"ya\"? I always heard or seen it from Chinese or shopee sellers.", "Isn't it a thing in Malay as well? Example:\n\"Bang, jangan marah ye, aku buat gurau je.\"", "Yes but most people use that when speaking in Malay. I've only ever heard Chinese using the \"ya\" and it is always in the same reminding structure. Never heard a Malay or Indian using \"ya\" in English.", "Literally the same, U just use it to remind someone that's it's equivocally important, ya?", "You're missing the point.\n\"Bang, jangan marah ye, aku buat gurau je.\" is in Malay language and used by all. But somehow only certain groups of people use the same language structure(?) in English. My question is why is it not universally adopted?\nAgain, this is a personal observation since I spent a couple of months hanging out at coffee shops around KL/Melaka when I last visited. So, if someone knows the usage is universal, then I'll retract my question since the premise is wrong." ], [ "as long it is fair... dont mind" ], [ "I've commented very early on about DSAI's Premiership in the UG and what a lame duck he'd be, given the mandate and deck of cards he was dealt with.\nLet's not kid ourselves. It doesn't matter who the PM is today - He'd still be a lame duck consumed by politics.\nDoes anyone seriously think he would work with UMNO/Zahid, had he the mandate to form a G on his own? Thereby carrying out his programs - It's altogether another matter if he didn't or failed with his plans.\nThe problem is the Rakyat is too fragmented and divided to allow any concrete steps to be taken." ], [ "PN will do better! /S", "We will change from capitalism to sharia compliance economy - PAS /s" ], [ "Any PM / government in Malaysia right now would be in a weak position and Anwar is no exception. It's hard to lead a country in the way you envisioned when the foundations of the government are so fragile and can crumble any time. That's just the hand he was dealt since nobody actually won the necessary seats in GE anyway.\nHe has to consolidate power as quickly as possible and he's trying to do just that (whether well or not nobody knows except him). But a year on, I'm just glad we still have a \"unity\" government anyway.", "People forget that Muhyiddin tanked our economy with that long ass stay at home bullshit when so many other countries have long opened up despite their high covid case. Not to mention he caused the political instability with the shearaton move. Any follow up government would struggle after his administration." ], [ "https://www.reddit.com/r/malaysia/s/ciofEi7oxG\nThis is the reference I like to used to describe Malaysia.\nIn short, the government is meant to represent the people in a democracy. No matter how hard Anwar tried to push for progressive reform when he is opposition, things change when you realize the reality of being the government. He can go against public opinion and do what the majority doesn't like to make long term change but then he won't get reelected nor even survive current term. This all won't happen in SG bcoz its a pseudo democracy dictatorship hybrid and the gov doesn't need to pander to the public which often times doesn't even know what they want. I don't need to say which system is better, the results speak for themselves." ], [ "1 year only can chnage fast?" ], [ "No surprise he’s a tin kosong. No substance.\nGonna be more of the same until next PRU" ], [ "Malaysians when they find out one prime minister cant change the 60 year long culture of a whole country *shock *gasp" ], [ "Walauns will be happy about this, whereby walanons will continue to cry about this" ], [ "PH fans will say that the UK analyst is a walaun. 😂" ], [ "Is the bias report is cause Anwar is campaigning for Palestinians?" ] ]

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[ [ "Speaking to The New Paper on Dec 25, the 37-year-old explained that the theme of the controversial episode was “Singapore versus Malaysia”.\nShowrunners had wanted verbal sparring between both sides, he said.\nWho could have saw it coming. Like these shows just want to go viral using anything.", "This is a long running show and they have been doing this for years before social media became mainstream" ], [ "For his english name he chose Hero? wow ok", "That's nothing, i know a guy who call himself Ace. Can't be anymore lansi." ], [ "These influencers just want rage baiting" ], [ "For higher income people, Singapore is very good." ], [ "Sooooo expensive. Just insane how expensive it is." ], [ "<image>", "<image>\nReal" ], [ "Ooof when you say the truth...." ], [ "We should not begrudge the Singaporeans for their ability to cleverly package and market what meagre attractions they have to appeal to people of financial means and consequence. It's the very reason they're successful. Imagine if we had sort of grit and hustle wrt to the sociocultural resources we are blessed with. They're punching above their weight class, while we are perennially underperforming.", "Malaysia underperformed because we are too comfortable due to abundant resources.", "Did you just discover a thesaurus or something?", "No, I'm just much older than you and I speak/write like that IRL. A lifetime of corporate speak does that to people.", "Ahhh, a lifetime of corporate peacocking, explains a lot.", "I'm the guy you come to when you desperately need to write an email that politely says, \"What were you thinking, you fucking idiot\", or \"I'm sorry I fucked up\" without losing your job. You can sneer at it, but I probably saved engineers plenty of wasted manhours and managers their jobs with my keyboard. ChatGPT datasets on corporate speak were probably trained on stuff written by my brethren. It's kinda eerie and yet amusing to see ChatGPT in action because it mimics what we do, but in a rather generic way.", "Hahaha okok, sorry boss. Just messing around with you. And I agree with your initial comment anyway, just too flowery for my liking.", "Hey some of us talk like that in real life too k", "Sorry typo, corporate speaking" ], [ "sorry not sorry, right?" ], [ "As a malaysian what he say is correct but no need to do big stage like that .\nSingapore is what malaysia could become if follow all the policy", "Not with green troopers around. Moving backwards not forward to a better future" ], [ "It's a variaty show where the panelist are expected to shit on each other for comedic value. Why are people getting their panties in a twist", "Exactly. I watched the episode - it was in good fun despite the natural tension. At certain times Hero was invited to cross over to the SG side for the things he acknowledged SG had.", "Woke moment" ], [ "LoL, he's not wrong, though." ], [ "why apologise for the truth?", "Because it's stupid. Everything we have in society is man made and saying Singapore STOLE Malaysia dish is dumb on a whole another level. And the example food he gave came from outside of Malaysia from china/indian migrants." ], [ "Personal opinion...Msia food does taste better than Singapore food...but when it comes to economy...Singapore is way ahead of Msia...there are ups and downs...Singapore man-made attraction is well maintained and surely attract alot of tourist to visit..on the other hand...Msia nature or man-made attraction dosen't even well maintained...so there are ups and downs for everything...when your product / food is not good...don't stressed out to everyone to defend ownself with alot of excuses..." ], [ "But is he wrong though?" ], [ "Careful he’s a hero" ], [ "Malaysia natural attractions are so beautiful. It’s such a shame that it’s all so polluted by companies that flout regulations and are so corrupted. Beautiful land and forest now cleared away for oil palms." ] ]

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[ [ "I have a theory as to why this is the case:\n[RETRACTED]" ], [ "https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-03974-8\n<image>" ], [ "Not surprised. Was doing my MPU and the lecturer insisted that our references can only come from BM sources.\nWe were like \"huh?\", because we knew that the sources must be heavily skewed towards anecdotal and unproven claims.\nThen I stumbled upon a trove of UPM journal papers. Everything inside was ugly, ranging from how nons should be thankful for being given the opportunity to be a citizen here, to how Malay Privileges should be continued forever" ], [ "Yes, we are the leading edge in research and innovation. We have a flying car on the way, ask our national hero Dr M" ] ]

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[ [ "MBJB Spot for roadside parking. Carpark at malls use TnG card. Depends also where you are in JB. For example if you are at Perling or Sutera, that is under Iskandar Puteri council. So have to buy coupon for roadside parking.\nI seriously hate these fricking councils. Why can't they just make it simple and use a single app. So damn difficult for travelers who don't know which to use. Hell, even TnG or Boost app has parking payment feature, can't they make use of that?", "I feel you, they should make universal with a single app instead. Can i use TNG app to scan and pay for carpark? Thanks :26558: (Dont have the card)", "You should use MBJB Spot V2 for MBJB area. The one without V2 is the old version, not sure still can find in app store or not, but make sure to download the correct app.\nMost mall car parks should accept TnG.", "Not that I know of. It depends which mall you intend to go to, you should be able to use your credit card for parking payment as well. Jus tap at the gantry. Should be 90% of mall parking supports credit card these days. May I ask which mall you are going?" ] ]

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[ [ "Adultery causes a lot of suffering, especially on children of adulterers. Having said that, special law to penalize possible adulterers can be abused, for example, a married woman using this law to implicate a man by saying he enticed her when he didn't. By the time he clears his name in court, his reputation would be destroyed.\nThe same should also apply if the sexes are reversed, which means single women should not be penalized for enticing married men, as this law can again be abused.\nWe need to reduce the number of cheating occurrences in society the hard way, which is by education, not by legal route." ], [ "This is stupid. But i do agree on the discriminate part. Should ammend to married men and women." ], [ "Why have these sorts of laws at all. Do they think married men won't mess around .. hmm I heard something about Nazri 🤔", "no no no ... actually .. it is already happening many times before..\nuntil stern action need to be done" ] ]

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[ [ "Sigh, nothing we can do, even though I love WFH. Dinosaur and Baby Dinosaur will not allowed it :26563:", "Well said . There are many many dinosaurs in MNC", "thankfully my baby dinosaurs love WFH.", "Dinosaur and Baby Dinosaur\nIs this a new term for boomer I don't know about?\nIf so, fire.", "Usually I use Dinosaur for Boomer (1945-1965) & Baby Dinosaur for Gen X (1966-1980), Dino is coming is a common abbreviation in Office :26561:\nAnd our boss usually call us Chameleons which is Generation Y or Millennials (1981-1995) :26563:", "yall reptiles giving us mammals a bad name /jk", ":26554:It all started when he overheard us calling him a dinosaur, those Auntie fault because their voice so loud. hahahaha", "Heh Why you make Auntie voice so loud bro? :26554:", "Bruhhhhhhh!!!!! Is their nature for talking so loud :26559:......................Not involve with me :26563:", "Boomers don't get why we love WfH", "All those boomers come from the generation where their worth as a person is defined as the amount they earned and the number of hours spent pretending to be busy at office.\nCan't show off at the office if there's no one there to see it.", "All those boomers come from the generation where their worth as a person is defined as the amount they earned and the number of hours spent pretending to be busy at office.\nCan't show off at the office if there's no one there to see it.\nPretty truth thou, As they has no production activities therefore WFH is a lost for them.", "Look at the bigger picture. Mentality aside, these T1 dinosaur boomers have a ton of money invested in commercial real estate and highway concessionaires. If more ppl wfh, money how?\nWon't somebody please think of the poor investors!", "Dinosaur and Baby Dinosaur ? huh ?" ], [ "My GM doesn't like his staff to wfh. But he rarely comes to the office. Damn fucker cannot see his staff happy.", "employee happy = employer not happy", "cinapek company?", "Not necessarily, Indian-HR doesn't like it too.", "Malay pun got. Micromanage-obsessed", "So true and no HR will point it out for that GM. 🤣", "Certainly, they had trust issue.... But of course some staff also problem cause they can't kept their mouth shut and constant show off at social media ..... Hence end up boss call all back to work", "Sometimes I feel more relax at work when my bosses (the managers) not in the office. My direct boss is more on the same mindset as I am.\nAnd this was pre-Covid time." ], [ "MEF entering the chat in 3...", "They did not. They have upgraded, they have giant proxy server that monitor your every messages. Sleep in fear tonight. /s" ], [ "There is only one good thing I realised about going back to the office to work.\nIf you're deep into office politics of any kind, having face-to-face interactions would build up your social points.\nToo bad most of us just wanted to work for a living, and not play with politics in the office.", "Exactly this. It's usually the upper/oldie half of the company that values this.\nThese days, I'm in the office purely for the fingerprint scanner, so HR knows I'm at work. Otherwise, I speak to nobody in the office. Literally spent a week saying nothing, except sending emails and Teams messages from my desk.", "The kings needed to be surrounded by their subjects in order to feel like one. It's a social thing for them, otherwise why the hell did they spend so much money on that suit?\nCan't really do all that when people are at home, being all equal and shit.", "While true to a certain extent. Most people don't talk about the downside of WFH. You become a name on a list. Networking is very important if you want to move up and due to security/complexity reason not all important job/task can be done from home. And would probably be overlooked for further training or promotion.\nSo when it's time to downsize. Guess who is going to be let go first. And in hiring process, some consider WFH as less valuable work experience. Since that's how most company do it anyway. All depends on which industry and level of work. And base on how developed nation are doing, they'll probably going to outsource it to cheaper alternatives.\nYou don't need to be \"deep into office politics\". But you need to be there to show off your other skills and ability.\nAt least that's how my career go. Got promoted way faster to management because I was one of the few who was there, not a complete ass and they saw my other skills (technical and client experience).\nWFH is fantastic if you can get overseas company remote job. Since the pay is cheap for them but expensive to us. But local WFH might not be good long term career wise.", "Nice try, HR.", "Not really, every upside have downside. Everyone who want higher position and salary until they learn about the workload and responsibilities attached to it.\nBy all means, WFH if you want to or can. But don't be ignorant about the drawback.", "👎🏽👎🏽👎🏽👎🏽👎🏽" ], [ "WFH coming soon", "Bring it on! Biggest perk of me having to WFH is save up laundry while I can work on my bed either 1/2 or butt naked.", "Please be attractive, pls be attractive :26558::26558::26558::26558::26558:" ], [ "Unfortunately for many bosses, if they don't see you working they automatically assume you are slacking so they absolutely cannot allow it to happen.", "Even if you complete you work in time and complete more work compared to when in office., the bosses also not happy.", "It just means they are bad managers who don't know how to track their workers' progress. If they don't trust the way they currently do it, that means they have a bad way of doing it, hence the need to micromanage and dislike of WFH.", "I'm the boss, if my employee can wfh n get things done equally fast or faster, no need enter office.\nEven I also wfh.\nI rush my employee faster finish work so we can go shopping", "Sadly not all bosses think the same because they cannot exploit their employee.\nI asked Bob finish report by 6pm....He could finished at 4pm then watch drama till 6pm and submit to me..This means I am paying bob to watch drama..\nCANNOT !, ALL COME BACK TO OFFICE OR SHOW ME WEBCAM OF YOUR HOUSE !", "this is why i quit my previous job. i get punished for being efficient." ], [ "I am still WFH.\nI can send kids to school, go to park to do taichi with regular members, take breakfast, shower, start work, pack lunch, pickup kids from school, work, evening workouts, cook dinner, work, leisure time, sleep.", "Housemaid =/= WFH ☠️", "For me it's unnecessary to hire maid, save around 24k per year" ], [ "I love WFH especially on Fridays, when work is less hectic. But boss don't allow allow COVID became less of a threat.\nI can do the laundry, go to prayers that's walking distance, nap while waiting for replies. Clean my room is the coffee energy I have" ], [ "well, covid cases are rising so....." ], [ "I am a low level employee (but a specialist) and I feel that the choice should be made by the staff in agreement with his or her superior, and the same rule cannot be applied to all. circumstances are varied with people having different needs etc. in the end it boils down to performance not affected, deliverables delivered, and your boss agreeing to it" ], [ "Some bosses are just stick up to their butt with traditional old mindset saying work from office is more productive than home, total BS for sure. During the surge of pandemic we were doing just fine WFH and follow everything to the T and back to post pandemic bosses merely used the \"eMPloYeE EngAgEmEnT\" as part of the excuse to drag our ass back to office. Apparently, they are still not convinced even after having tracker or whatever 3rd party bs software installed in our work asset just to micromanaged us 9 hrs, M-F." ], [ "Too bad office building companies don't like it" ], [ "For me, if an employees continues to do well and productive during WFH arrangements, then theres no issue. The problem is those employees that when WFH arrangement comes in, suddenly have a million and one things to do OTHER than work." ], [ "More work life balance is so true. I no longer need to wait till weekend to do all the house chores, especially laundry. I can sun my comforter every f day!!! The house chores are split into 5 days and I don't hate it anymore!!!! Also I can go for appointments hair do yada2 on weekday avoiding all the traffics and fully booked weekend / PH.\nWFH RTW!!!" ], [ "I think companies (at least MNCs) are pro WFH. Even those that are against, are at least willing to try. My company started off with \"as long as your work is done by the end of the day, I don't need to see you at office\" policy but it quickly u-turned after some incidents.\nThe problem comes when some a**holes starts to abuse the flexibility. Not contactable for a week straight, found doing side hustles on company time, went visiting family etc. So there's a massive problem of work not being done on time and delaying others.\nIn my company it's actually very hard to get rid of somebody even if it's for performance reasons (lengthy evaluation and improvement programs which are easy to \"defeat\") so there's no real deterrent. And when push comes to shove due to projects getting delayed, others become unhappy due to having to cover for the low performers regardless of valid or invalid reasons.\nCompany started to ask everyone to come back to office to not appear as if singling out the low performers (to give chance or what I dunno). But this quickly was met with backlash from everyone.\nI'm not HR or management, but just an employee who witnessed the drama went down. What I wanted to say is that there's more than meets the eye even for what sounds like stupid, ass-backwards and archaic decisions like asking everyone to come back to office." ], [ "There's no one-size-fits-all to this. Whether or not flexible working arrangements are appropriate depends entirely on the industry you're in and the company you work for.\nFor example, I work for a digital marketing agency that only allows WFH in certain situations (contagious illness, childcare emergencies, mental health break). It's in office because the bosses want to show our clients that they've hired a team, all sitting at one table, to be an extension of their marketing team. Gives clients confidence in our ability to deliver.", "Same industry, opposite situation. My company is fully remote and my team has a big telco as our client. Only time we go in physically is when the client wants us in for weekly WIPs. Other than that the entire time is separate. Has been working really well, both in terms of the client stuff and internally. As long as work is done, it’s all gucci. I do hope (while unlikely) companies are more flexible when it comes to WFH." ], [ "Once you tasted the convenience of WFH, you don't want to let it go. Before this, you didn't talk about WFH. Come on... you cannot get angry at me for pointing out the truth. You can kecam me ALL YOU WANT but deep, DEEP down you know what I said is true. Admit it. PS: I am not an employer/boss/supervisor/admin etc. PSS: I am not saying WFH is a bad thing, I am saying bagi betis, nak paha.", "And why would anyone kecam you for that statement? I see nothing wrong of people realizing how pointless getting to the office is for certain job, wfh gets stuff done more optimally, more work life balance (desperately needed for the suboptimal wages and exploitation here) , more freedom and motivation, more time for friends and family, no burn out, as it should be. Before people are just so forced into an inferior style of work and that's all they know, covid is the catalyst, and that's a good thing\nPeople also have to realize that there is also the matter of difference in working style compatibility for different people, this is a psychological fact, denying it is just denying reality. If more people in the workforce can have the choice that suits them better and be more productive, that's good for employers, not bad. Give people the choice, and see how they work with it, no need to micromanage, results do all the talking\nIt's employers that should adapt instead, if the output is the same or better, what's the issue? Sounds like a leadership issue if an employer can't work with that", "This is reddit. Demographic is skewed towards the young and the woke, not the realistic and logical. Of course they are going to kecam when they see things they dislike.", "Eh, way too much broad stroke generalization, you're not as sincere as you think you are" ], [ "I can't work from home, but I won't stop others for having that choice." ], [ "That's the problem with most companies, the only metric is how many hours are the staff in the office and not the actual work that has been done (I can tell you half the staff can finish in half the time, but they know if they work faster they get more work with no extra incentive and the peers that game the system work less).\nJust give a reasonable work load, a reasonable deadline and then don't care if the staff is in the office or how they carry out their work.\nA happy worker is a good worker! An unhappy worker is just going to do the bare minimum to not get fired." ], [ "Problem to focus here is productivity, as long as you're productive and get your job done then i guess it doesnt matter where you are working from. If you work from bed and can still get your job done then its your capability and should be respected" ] ]

[ "Food" ]

[ [ "There was an outburst when someone sells pork nasi lemak.\nWhere is the outburst for halal Chee cheong fun?", "halal Chee cheong fun\nIts already technically halal (just the noodles and gravy), just that its usually made by non Muslims, so..", "Char SIU chee cheong fun is one of the most common variation.", "look at mr fancy here having actual meat in his chee cheong fun", "Damn, meat in chee cheong fun is luxury now? Smh", "Chee chong fun is literally rice (noodle) and soy sauce, prototypical \"i have 30sen left\" meal. Eating it with meat is illegal in that sense.", "That is only one type of it.\nThe another type of it is you eat it in a dim sum shop, typically comes with char siu or prawn.", "Someday I wish I can afford that. Can only afford the bitter gourd thing at most.\nChar siu quite rare at stand alone store, usually got chicken pork rice shop in the same place then got.", "The char siu one is the Hong Kong style one isn't it? That's relatively rare compared to the style with the sweet sauce or curry sauce and fishballs.", "Technically anything that make by non Muslim … other side would react like this …. Even we know the ingredients doesn’t involve anything haram", "too few of us to make noise about it" ], [ "Sometime ago dragon’s whiskers was used to describe taugeh. Imagine the price of that dish 😂", "Served with dragons beard candy, for a 3 Michelin star meal" ], [ "This would normally not be a big issue. Just apologize for the poor translation, point out there is no haram and move on.\nUnfortunately there are opportunists and religion-baiters who are always happy to stir up trouble to push their own agenda." ], [ "Only in Malaysia where non issues make headlines" ], [ "What in the world is happening to Malaysia?" ], [ "They should rightfully be criticized for simply using translation tool without double checking the result. Can run business with 4 branches but can't get someone to write a proper social media post - please.\nBut if people believe it actually contain pork, then they are lacking common sense. Clearly a white rice noodle but somehow contains meat at all, much less pork?\nCCF is Pork Intestine Noodle literally speaking because it resembles intestines when rolled up. There's also stuff like Loh Shi Fun is rat noodle cause it looks like a rat's tail.\nOkay, maybe not familiar with Chinese weirdness, but there's still stuff like Otak-Otak. Which most certainly is not made out of brains.\nPeople need to stop being stupid and outsourcing all thought to machines. Who the hell reads \"Early-Flavored Pork Sausage Powder\" and thinks that is a real thing? What the hell is sausage powder? I've never seen such a damn thing. What the hell is Early Flavor? Tastes like the morning sun? What does that even taste like?\nPeople spend so much time on social media and never seen those stupid memes about those terribly translated Chinese menus with hilarious results? C'mon lah.", "Can run business with 4 branches but can't get someone to write a proper social media post - please.\nBro, it's Facebook's fault, not the restaurant. The damn translation tool is Facebook's. Baca dulu artikel woi...", "Relax Donnie. Go practice some wing-chun", "Bro, did you read the article. It's facebook auto translation fault. People are just blowing this way out of the water.", "Early flavour probably comes from 古早 which was a common word for \"Original flavour\". 粉 could be translated as \"powder\" depending on context.\nOf course, a human would not translate things like this." ], [ "Hence why it's important to help build the ML model for languages. Unlike English, Asian languages at large have food names that can mean entirely different when handled separately. Like the case in point.\nThen those halal restaurants that sells yong tau foo with chee cheong fun how? Takkan they are illegal meh?", "Doesn't matter whether it's ML model or translation tool, they just need the correct translation put in in the first place.", "it's auto translated by facebook.", "Hence model needs to be correct... And different countries have different type of language models too..." ], [ "Where netizens?" ], [ "What happened to Kuey Teow Gulung???" ], [ "Served rolled or unrolled ? Which u prefer ?" ], [ "Facebook must be taken to task" ], [ "Chee Cheong Fun is Cantonese and it literally means “pork intestines noodle” but it has nothing to do with pork and made out of flour. It was named as such because of the shape and the look of it." ], [ "Me to netizen: “can you guys stop getting triggered by NOTHING for 5 seconds?!?!!”" ] ]

[ "Culture" ]

[ [ "this is not a fight. ffs, this is assault." ], [ "Abang Pulis should just hunt this dickhead down and string him up by the balls.", "Lets just hope he doesn't like it", "implying a guy using physical violence on a girl half his size,\nhas any balls to string\nGuys...please...", "She should make a police report first and foremost. Police can't act without a police report no matter how viral a video gets.", "Kopek lan jiao dia", "last time nicky liow also beat people up but he is enjoying and shaking leg now.....easily relaxing comparing to us citizens throughout the covid pandemic till today, with the rapid rise cost of living...\neven his brother and ALL 14 INDIVIDUALS linked to him are all free...\nsource: https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2023/07/24/brother-of-039datuk-nicky039-freed-from-tax-evasion-money-laundering-charges#:~:text=Judge%20Norazlin%20Othman%20ordered%20Liow,laundering%20charges%20to%20the%20government\nsource: https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2022/07/07/14-linked-to-nicky-gang-freed-of-charges\nsource: https://worldofbuzz.com/malaysians-are-not-happy-that-fugitive-nicky-liow-has-been-released-on-bail/", "It is my dream to own an MQ-9 Reaper Drone so I can drop bombs on this fuckhead.", "Naaw man. You don't need a MQ-9 Reaper Drone. You can just use normal drones. Those who have the wherewithal can DIY a 'normal DJI Mavic that can drop napalm on his ass. Not that I'm condoning this kind of behavior or anything.", "DJIs have serial numbers that can be traced to its original point of purchase and the person who purchased it. Reaper Drones don’t. It can be flagged as a foreign intervention. But provided I buy it from a reputable arms dealer that provides 100% privacy for their clients, it wouldn’t be traced back to me. Unless if somehow people care so much about Nicky that they’re willing to pay that arms dealer to talk.\nBut of course this is all hypothetical and in no way I’m gonna do that. But a dream is still a dream I guess." ], [ "i like the girl fight back instead record video. waiting PDRM FB viral social media. can see the bully back down because he surprised", "She know for CCTV already" ], [ "This Chinese Ah Pek is very disrespectful.", "not to be racist but there are a whole lot of chinese uncles ive met who are very rude compared to the younger generation mostly caused of their upbringing", "How the younger generation is less rude in case of the upbringing perspective?", "Sigh idk man, my husband is approaching his late 30s and today he muttered cb loudly when the drink stall lady was rude to him.\nI was so shocked because 10 years ago he was so soft spoken he would insist I not 'trouble' the waiter if they get his food wrong.\nI swear we all get angrier as we get older, 20 years from now the gen alphas will be the ones saying how unchill the zoomers are.\nThat said, this lj can go fuck himself. Confirm 7lan he's a wife beater.", "This I agree. They’re very disconnected from reality." ], [ "If you go talking to people with a raised voice and an attitude like that, doesn't matter if you're right or wrong, you are still wrong.", "I always undur diri from people like them sometimes make them feel like the won the stupid argument and try to avoid them. These people are so stupid with their gaduh sampai mati atitude and someday someone will teach them a lesson.", "Very wise of you, pick your battles well. Most of thing are just empty tins making lots of noise. Best thing is to move on. Uncle, we don't want your business, please leave." ], [ "Shittt. She must have been so scared because you wouldn’t know to what extent the assaulter could go to. Kudos to the girl for being brave to fight back. Terrifying as it could escalate really bad.", "In her case it’s not bravery but stupidity to fight back. Being a women, it’s just dangerous for her to confront the man in a PHYSICAL confrontation.", "I guess it was fight or flight situation. You don’t have much time to think. I think he was taken aback as well when one of the item flew directly into his face. If it didn’t, he might’ve gotten more aggressive. Let’s just be grateful she didn’t get hurt." ], [ "I fucking hate these type of rude brutish shits \"contractor types\". I look at his type can already predict the type.. end of the day go makan with his bunch of simlarly brutish uneducated friends.. meanwhile trying to hit on the very aged \"beer girl\" at your local kopitiam.. discussing which kai tao they going to go to later and the excuses they will tell their wives. These types would in the past have china mistresses but these days they can't afford one." ], [ "Babi hutan dari mana ni" ], [ "I've seen many people like this uncle, often the reason they behave like that is because there's an underlying dislike towards certain type of other people. Maybe he don't like younger people, maybe he don't like lady staff, maybe he don't like Malay service people, maybe he don't like anyone in general. There's just no reasoning with people that are not reasonable.", "That long ass sentences for i think uncle is racist", "Ha, you said it not me", "Some uncle think they are rich and \"powerful\" think they can do whatever they want.\nOne time similar uncle double park me, I honk for 10 min nothing happen, they I take phone call friend saying I will be late for lunch.\nSuddenly this uncle appeared out of nowhere scold me say cannot wait la ? So inpatient and call DBKL, he take a picture of me and record me He reverse he car and parked at my spot when I leave...", "Lol. He take picture of you for what? He's the one in the wrong. He's not scared aaa you later sue him for copyright infringement of likeness?\nBodo punya uncle.", "Maybe in his mind, I am the wrong person.\nThat's why he have no guilt doing it.", "Not just rich uncles. I posted a video of this one driving a red Saga and was blocking the road. I honked him with a standard honk and yet he still scold me.\nYou’d think all the superstition they believe in would account for them being well behaved but it’s the complete opposite.", "Just say this Chinese fucker is racist and fucking rude. Fyi I'm Chinese as well.. fuck that uncle he deserved to be beaten up badly" ], [ "Loved that the lady fought back, has good aim too, a couple of headshots\nThe throw to the face after he tried slapping her and it stuttered him, fucking lol" ], [ "The uncle is bark but no bite, he threw 3 or 4 items but when the lady managed to hit him? he would leave like a unsatisfied arrogant samseng.\nand by the explanation of the service? The Uncle also have less rationality and IQ on how things work." ], [ "Corrections; apparently the customer removed the screen protector himself to show how faulty it is. Since the thing is made of glass and he did it so recklessly the screen protector obviously cracked, but he instead blamed it on the employee despite his own actions causing it." ], [ "\"orang tua bodoh\"" ], [ "Im certain by tonight police already infront of the guy house." ], [ "What happened here looks like a racist man who had a shitty day taking it out on someone he thought was weak enough to not retaliate.\nThis guy is a joke. Even when you're frustrated, you shouldn't treat service staff (or anyone) like shit. Not to mention in the presence of a young child. Honestly, as a Chinese Malaysian myself, I can safely say that most older gen peeps like this uncle are pretty damn racist. It's usually spoken about behind closed doors or WA groups. Sometimes in plain sight via Mandarin or whatever dialect. I know this because I lived it. I found it so disgusting that it used to make me nauseous as a kid.\nOn an unrelated note, wtf is kopek? Google is not helpful at all. (Disclaimer, my BM is pretty trash)", "Peel. He’s talking about peeling off the screen protector", "Ohhh ty!" ], [ "Uncle want another Lowyat case ah? With girl you berani lar uncle", "Dog whistling." ], [ "Pasal screen protector sampai nak pukul perempuan?? Dayus ke apa lelaki ni?" ], [ "uncle is a racist bastard" ], [ "From what I can hear in the video. He sendiri remove and caused some kind of damage. Don't know if faulty product or user error but he definitely thought it was the product. Obviously shopkeeper insist it's latter\nMoral of story. These type of things, leave to shopkeeper to do. If anything then they tanggung.", "Yea, there's a reason why they upcharge, in case they f anything up, they'll take responsibility and replace anything broken. Saw a video of a man in china who didn't wanna pay the technician the high price of a battery replacement. He said that he can buy the battery online for way cheaper. The technician just gave him his seat and told him to do it himself. He ended up puncturing the battery and it went up in flames and burnt the entire phone. Moral of the story, don't be a smart ass.", "unless you reaallly know what you're doing but those people wouldn't be at a retailer.", "yea, dude was like, \"why you charging me so much, this looks so easy\", proceeds to burn his own phone, and the shop doesnt own him anything cuz he did it himself, so there's no 'guarantee' in place should anything happen, in this case, a burnt phone. Not to mention unrecoverable data loss.", "For an arrogant person like this they will do what they want and pound the shopkeeper over his own faults." ], [ "From what I can hear in the video. He sendiri remove and cases some kind of damage. Don't know if faulty product or user error but he definitely thought it was the product. Obviously shopkeeper insist it's latter\nMoral of story. These type of things, leave to shopkeeper to do. If anything then they tanggung." ], [ "Fuck this prick man. Acting like a bully and there is a baby there...and attacking someone who is arguably weaker than him.\nI am an Indian guy and this making my blood boil. I will be so honest I have come across in recent years similar character and for some reason all of them happen to be Chinese men. Rude..arrogant...and I sense racist i.e think of other races, in my case being Indian as lower than them. Very strange and worrying that our society have people like this...(Clarification: Obviously I do not mean ALL Chinese men are this way)\nI hope the police to full throttle and catch this guy and charge him in court. Fuck this guy.\nRespect to the girl for standing up for herself and throwing back at him kaw kaw.", "Anyone of any race would be angry at that guy.", "Im chinese man. Fuck this uncle. Not only shouting like a cunt, but even started swinging at a woman. If he can slap random women he met he's probably beating up his wife at home. Funny he's all bark no bite, immediately pussy out when the girl fought back. Put this failure of a human on police record so some Dato can scam a fortune on him for getting rid of his record. Padan muka.", "Now imagine I wrote this but I replace Chinese with Indian. How would you feel?\nDon't need to be racist here you twerp.", "You people already do that with rentals and job hiring. Stop getting butthurt over a reddit comment.\nEdit : this mofo is CCP symphatiser hahaha no wonder la", "3:1", "What kind of stupid you're spouting out right now?", "My disdain for Malaysians.\nCorrection, 3.5:1" ], [ "fuck this uncle wei. I'm so glad the lady retaliated so he knows not to simply mess with others. he needs to learn a bigger lesson. I hope she's not too traumatised sigh." ], [ "I have a friend who worked at Low Yat a year ago, got fired because of this type of customer, simply because he said something that got my friend uncomfortable, causing him to lose barren ALL DAY!\nThat's why customers are not always the king, if they choose not to help themselves first", "lose barren? wha", "Basically means went nuts all day" ], [ "Any updates where he get arrested for assault? Eat too much babi, become babi 🐷 himself. Babi even cuter than him, nvm.", "why blame babi?" ], [ "kimak bila tau dia melawan balik baru mengecut nak keluar." ], [ "Nak marah, marah je lah. Nak pukul pulak. Kalau saya dah escalate lah, adalah benda keras saya baling nanti. Jumpa polis saya cakap self defense." ], [ "Fucking boomer." ], [ "I bet he's also the kind of person who doesn't check the thousands of notifications from social media and emails, set his screen brightness high for no reason, his background wallpaper is screenshot from somewhere and of low quality and doesn't delete the apps, photos or videos he doesn't need but still complains about low storage." ], [ "Don't fight over such small matters" ], [ "Incoming sembelih comment on fb" ], [ "You can tell when the baby starts crying that she goes full protection mode. This guy is a limp loser kopek kopek his own brain." ], [ "This Chinese man is adding fire and gonna bring trouble to the well mannered Chinese in this country. Send him to gulag." ], [ "The baby 😟😥😢" ], [ "Lol" ], [ "If the staff is a man this would escalate to a street fight." ], [ "Bikin sendirilah… Lanjiao" ], [ "This is the apa lan jiao guy's father" ], [ "Proud of the lady! Teach that cunt a lesson! Weakass" ], [ "What a pussy" ], [ "i’m a chinese and I also despise this motherfucker type of uncle, should have kopek his balls off his dxxk" ], [ "I'm too prideful. I don't go after someone weaker than me but stronger than me, and my friend calls me an idiots for that 😢" ], [ "Apa ni main kopek" ], [ "Who had the bright idea of editing this video so poorly? It isn't even repeated properly." ], [ "aduh, maybe got up on the wrong side of the bed that morning." ], [ "Is it wrong that this gal turns me on?Dude was being a dickhead,she stood her ground,tried hard to remain courteous even when he was swearing but the minute things became phsyical,she returned every single thing and even more towards the dickhead..If she had a baseball bat,im 1000% sure the cctv would have captured a weird chinese dude running out of the store while being chased by a chick wielding a bat", "Baby noises in the background. Proly a mom. Mommy bear mode activated when baby start crying." ], [ "To the Chinese here. Stop being stop pathetic la. That uncle wrong so be it. No need to try to apologise for your race, scared as like this will cause a race riot. Racist will be racist. Condemn the uncle, then stop." ], [ "Mana kopek?" ], [ "ah the kopek kopek ." ], [ "Ain't we men supposed not to fight with women?" ] ]

[ "History" ]

[ [ "Having \"federation\" in the name of the country sounds so cool. Federation of Malaya = Persekutuan Tanah Melayu." ], [ "Dua-dua Tuanku Abdul Rahman dan Tunku Abdul Rahman ada dalam banyak poskad dan setem ni. Interesting." ], [ "At least OP have the decency to call it Malaya independence unlike others Ahole who dont know history" ], [ "Interesting to see the use of multiple languages way back then and the reduction over the years until now 😔" ], [ "The 11 stripes looks way much better than the 14 stripes.\nWe should just keep the 11 stripes and only change the star point.\n11 stripes and 14 point stars." ], [ "Very nice Merdeka FDCs - these fetch a higher price than official FDCs. Thanks for sharing!" ], [ "Noh sampai Senegal pun ada." ] ]

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[ [ "Disclaimer: I'm not an EP holder nor do I work in HR, but I used to be a hiring manager at a company that employed a decent number of EP holders, so I'll share whatever I can from my admittedly limited knowledge.\nIn terms of speed, most EP holders I hired usually got the approval pretty fast. Sometimes longer than 5 days, but we never had an issue with an employee's EP not being completed by their target start date. However, we did have very skilled HR recruiters who were experts in handling the EP process, so this could admittedly differ for you depending on how experienced your employer's HR is with handling EPs.\nAs for your final question, nobody can really answer that except your employer, as this would depend entirely on what they want to do. I'm not sure what role you've been hired for, but if it's a position that requires very specialised skills (which are usually the kind of positions companies here hire foreigners for), I'd say there's a good chance they won't revoke the offer as the likelihood is high that they weren't able to find a Malaysian candidate with the needed skillset.", "That's great to know, thank you for sharing!" ] ]

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[ [ "Today years old.\nFuck me, \"berdiri di kaki sendiri\"? Really?", "Wait till you find out about,\nSyarikat = syarat ikatan\nPurata = pukul rata\nKugiran = kumpulan gitar rancak\nPawagam = panggung wayang gambar\nTadika = taman didikan kanak-kanak\nDebunga = debu bunga\nHakis = habis kikis\nJaluran = jalan lurah\nJenama = jenis nama\nAnd of course...\nKakitangan = kaki tangan", "AWAS = Anda Waspada Anda Selamat", "Mind blown.\nThanks to awas, waspada is rarely in use any more.", "Sounds like a backronym to me", "No way", "at this rate, texting lingo will eventually be part of the official dictionary.", "You're not far from the truth. That's how languages evolve. Many modern day dictionary vocabulary were once a slang/lingo.", "at least the good thing about Malay is that we create new words to describe new things.\n... unlike in English where people tend to repurpose the same words/phrases to describe different things over time, leading to situations where misunderstandings can happen when reading historical documents.", "Syarikat is taken from Arabic. Sharikat, musharakah, etc", "Talibanisasi at work damn", "also Javanisation. Anwar using wewenang and tatakelola", "Tadika\nWow, i always saw taman didikan kanak2. Never realise it mean Tadika.", "Tabika = Taman Bimbingan Kanak-kanak", "taska = taman asuhan kanak kanak", "Wow da.", "Mind blown", "How about Taska?", "Taman asuhan kanak-kanak", "Oh wow. Thank you", "hmm i thought jaluran is just from jalur?\nedit: also syarikat is arabic", "holy fuck, no wonder the word is kinda weird.", "holyyyyy…not even 1 single cikgu ever told me this, i assume even they dont know its an acronym lol", "LITERALLY JUST SECONDS AGO", "*Diatas", "TIL. OP cibai lowkey flexing he knew this since he was 5", "Same! What the Frick!" ], [ "Technically not an acronym (ie abbreviation of single letters from multiple words) but a portmanteau (ie merging of syllables from multiple words) but yeah .... one of the rare ones in BM", "Semarak Tadika Taska", "Balada", "Thanks, wasn't aware of the word portmanteau but felt that '\"acronym\" wasn't right" ], [ "Did you know that cerpen is also a portmanteau? Cer-pen. Short story. Cerita Pendek.", "How about kugiran = kumpulan gitar rancak\nOr pawagam = panggung wayang gambar", "There's also\nJenama - Jenis Nama\nAndartu- Anak Dara Tua\nAspura - asrama Putra\nAspuri - asrama Putri\nBendalir - benda mengalir\nBendasing - benda asing\nMaging - makan daging(karnivor)\nMaun - makan daun ( herbivor)\nMaserba - makan serba serbi ( omnivor)\nCapub - cari publisiti\nKetua - kepala tua\nCikgu - encik/cik guru\nJengkaut - jentera kaut", "I'm not sure if this is true or not but I heard somewhere that jantina is a contraction of jantan and betina", "Yep. Its true. Jantan atau betina", "Didnt know capub exist. Hahaha. I've never heard people say this.", "It's a slang used back around my high school years, so... 15 years back??? Or so. I seem to recall people saying \"mencapub\" then, referring to people who likes to show off. Guess it fell out of use 😂", "was mainly spelled as 'mencapap'", "Ketua = kepala tua reminds me of latin in English words. Capit = head. Head of the team, captain. Kepala lutut, knee cap. Ingat semula, recap. Remove head, decapitation. Topi, cap.", "Cikgu just blown my mind", "\"mencapub\"\ndamn thats the buzzword at college for he/she who tryhard to fit in everywhere...\nfelt seasoned rn", "Jengkaut. I may have learned about its whole meaning today, but that word will forever sound funny to me.", "Related to that,\nJentolak - Jentera Tolak\nJurutera - Juru Jentera", "Damn pawagam is new to me, thanks!", "shout out to P.Ramlee", "yeah I figured it out myself when I heard on radio, the host said \"cerpen atau cerita pendek\". I put 2 and 2 together, and I felt I discovered something revolutionary", "In primary school i once wrote in English \"cherpent\", because i thought cerpen is an English loanword.", "Cute lar you 😂 I have the same problem with the word modal which meant capital, I confused a lot of people for a while", "I thought Island is english for Islam. I was 7 or 8. Just made it up out of nowhere.", "Yeah, and the only reason I remember that was because my BM teacher always made jokes about how novels should've been called \"cerpan\".", "Cereka = Cerita Rekaan", "Any malaysian who doesnt know this, simply did not study during sekolah menengah." ], [ "My school self was like : birdy kari", "Yummy, curried bird 😋" ], [ "" ], [ "(Looks the word up) Oh yeah. It is." ], [ "Oh my god....." ], [ "Like, in primary school? I thought that's when everyone was taught this.", "Same. Learned the word and its meaning together at the same time." ], [ "Dayum, i wonder wat proto-Malay sounds like. There's the royalty, traders & also the commoners lingo. A rando time traveller would be confused as f on how to communicate with people from the past. Any language really. Shits can be changed pretty fast if one civilization had dominated the other." ], [ "Berdiri diatas kaki sendiri = Berdikari\nWhich means being able to stand on your own two feet and not have to rely on mom and dad to survive" ], [ "I was today years old" ], [ "I'm Indo, I found out about that in Sekolah Dasar and I lost my shit that day ngl", "Sekolah Dasar 🗿", "Yes, elementary school, 6 years learn about how not to blow out the school and think everyone/everything is equal.\nAlso learned about math and all those 15 not-so-important subjects, and my favorite one, learned how to play guitar in seni budaya.", "We call it sekolah rendah", "Sekolah rendah, how many years? I heard the system is completely different\nCause we have 6-3-3 and 4 years uni", "6-5 years. Sekolah rendah and then sekolah menengah.\nAlthough you can extend the latter to 6 years" ], [ "You mean there’s no root word - dikari? Oh my!" ], [ "Wait it is?", "Berdiri di atas kaki sendiri", "Dang that's cool thx for the info." ], [ "Darjah 1. Maybe darjah 2, idk... Tapi time sekolah rendah la dah tau." ], [ "10" ], [ "15 it was a few months ago during bm class" ], [ "berdiri di atas kaki sendiri\ni learned that when i was Y5, i thought my teacher is messing around\nCoincidentaly, that got debunk and revised to me by my teacher yesterday" ], [ "I thought berdikari = berdiri makan kari" ], [ "No, no! That’s impossible!" ], [ "wait fr cuz Im feeling the same vibes as lipan = lipas panjang" ], [ "beli kari sendiri" ], [ "Kugiran" ], [ "As a Blue Archive player, I've always wanted to ber-Dik-Ari", "oh, a random Sensei spotted.\n\"Cikgu, apa maksud Berdikari?\"\nI can imagine one of the young students asking that question." ], [ "An image of me standing in an area besides the canteen suddenly pop up when I try to remember it so I would say between standard 1 through 5" ], [ "Gostan = go astern" ], [ "IT IS AN ACRONYM?" ], [ "huh?" ], [ "Really. I really thought it meant some sort of veg curry from Goa or something" ], [ "Form 5\nLast week" ], [ "I can wait until Mekdi into kamus dewan.", "Or Kepci" ], [ "Now" ], [ "Portmanteau." ], [ "Today years old." ], [ "When i learnt the word...which is 9 kot. I feel like it was mention in upin ipin or sumn" ], [ "Awas is still the most mind blowing one" ], [ "Just now, holyshit" ], [ "tomorrow years old. I refuse to comprehend these today." ], [ "Mak ko hijau= mak korang hisap lanjau?" ], [ "wow, really?" ], [ "Tadika/tabika" ], [ "Wait berdikari is really acronym of berdiri diatas kaki sendiri?? I always know this phrase but I thought that was just made up and a mere coincidence lmao" ], [ "Waktu aku masuk form 2" ], [ "I always thought berdikari meant \"being curried\"" ], [ "And nowadays everyone be like socmed socmed for social media." ], [ "This thread is good and informative. Wow..." ], [ "😅 today" ] ]

[ "Food" ]

[ [ "you need 2 ingredients which I am unsure you can get in Australia.\nCeylon Tea Dust and Hailam Coffee powder.", "I’ll have a look at this.\nI’ve also noticed that the tea and coffee seems to be put in a balang of hot water in their kettle things. I wonder if this is to keep it hot without burning.\nAny tips for steps?", "Correct. It is to steep the coffee and tea and keep hot without burning it and for efficiency as they need to serve many at at a short time.\n1 cup 250ml of milk tea is about 3 tablespoons of teadust in the sock filter. Water I estimate to be around 95C. Steep for about 3 mins or until you get really dark colour. It has to be strong.\n1 cup of 250ml of kopi is also about 3 tablespoons of hailam coffee powder. (You must have hailam coffee powder, not western coffee as hailam coffee beans are roasted with sugar, butter and salt to get the aroma.\nSteep about 5 mins at 95C. The coffee is literally charcoal black.\nMix the both 2 part tea, 1 part coffee.\nCondensed milk is 2.5 tablespoon per 250ml cup.\nThe best hailam coffee powder I have gotten is from Ijok. (direct from the roaster. He does everything traditionally)\nBest CTC tea dust is Bharat tea (cameron highlanda origin)", "P.S - This is only a basic recipe I observe from the masters in the kopitiam.\nSo you have to adjust accordingly.\nPractice makes perfect. I didnt get it right the first time too.", "Thank you so much for the detailed response :)" ], [ "When I was in London, I tried to replicate best I could. What I did was get an Italian roast coffee (super dark) and a black tea that I steeped really dark too. I also got condensed milk and evaporated milk, and white sugar. Basically the recipe goes;\nBrew the tea super dark and thick. Brew the coffee as thick as possible (I used a Moka Pot)\n1 part of coffee to 2 parts of tea, white sugar 1 table spoon and stir. 1 teaspoon of condensed milk and stir, then add the evaporated milk until colour looks correct. Dilute to your liking with hot water.\nIt's not great, but it was the best I could make it without local ingredients.", "Coffee need to be dark roast as the kopitiam style coffee are mostly the dark robusta type. Tea need to to be brewed to the point where it looks like coffee as well. Adjust ratio to your liking, lots and lots of condensed milk", "To add on to this, evaporated milk and condensed milk is the key here. There's no way to replicate cham with ang mohs version of coffee, I.e. With cow's milk and sugar.\nWhile I was in UK, they store their evaporated milk and condensed milk at the baking section which they never use for brewing", "Will try this, thank you." ], [ "Can someone teach me how to make Teh C too, that thing tastes better in kopitiam compare to what i made myself" ] ]

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[ [ "Minor announcements:\nmonyet.cc: Check out our Malaysian Lemmy community! (why?)\nSPM Megathread: Updated 2022 with SPM resources such as trial papers, modules, notes and more!\nMental health wiki: A list of mental health services in Malaysia\nI am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns." ], [ "I figure I ask first before I make a thread.\nI'm going to Malaysia as a \"layover\" to my trip to Japan (I have to book a flight to SEA to get a cheap flight to Japan... 600 Canadian dollars vs 1400-1800 Direct to Tokyo) and will be in KL for 5 days. I usually have a tour guide, a friend, or something. I've asked my only malaysian friend here in Canada for some advice and they didn't give me much other than \"food delicious, it's so cheap\".\nI am totally lost what to do in KL for 5 days other than eat my heart out. Any advice or daytrips nearby would be great.\nAlso I do travel with quite expensive camera gear. Is petty theft bad there, and should i keep my cameras tethered to my body?" ], [ "I'm getting on my Christmas mood now. Been having Cher's new Christmas single on heavy rotation in the last 48 hours - DJ Play a Christmas Song. Think the song Believe but Christmas edition lol\nLove the song so much, probably the latest addition to my Christmas classics (last one was 8 Days of Christmas by Destiny's Child, I was 10yo)." ], [ "Why can't some of my Muslim friends wish Merry Christmas? Someone sent \"Happy Happy\" with a picture of wrapped gifts to our work group last year. It's not an issue, I couldn't give a shit but out of curiosity...why isn't it allowed? Or is it?", "The basis of Islam is to surrender only to one God and deny all the other ones. That is the Shahadah.\nThe Shahadah says : I bear witness that there is no god except (the one) God, and I bear witness that Muhammad is the only messenger.\nThe Shahadah is what Muslims proclaim and stay true to. As long as you say the Shahadah, you are considered a Muslim.\nWhen you do things that deviate from the Shahadah, that is considered shirik. Shirik is when you deify/glorify/worship other than Allah. It is the biggest sin in Islam.\nA sin in Islam, especially the biggest sin, is something to be avoided as far away as possible. So a Muslim cannot glorify other deities, or do anything that can ever go near that. Hence, a Muslim cannot celebrate or glorify other festivities that involve other deities.\nWishing hari merdeka = halal, can, no deities involved.\nWishing merry Christmas= haram, cannot, a deity (Jesus Christ) is involved.", "Thank you for the detailed clarification!", "You're welcome, I appreciate you for asking instead of making assumptions.", "it's ok, they missing out. maybe they want you to force pull them into the Christmas atmosphere.. they 1st scared. 2nd they pantang. 3rd, they kena awasi surveilence. 4th If it really bothers you, just str8 up ask kenapa hang?\n4th... dikaitkan dgn Yahoodi. 5th Kutub Utara actually is Igloo.. Santa's factory too expensive", "Tfk is point number 5 😂 aiya, work group how to ask. Nanti kena blacklist", "nah just talking sheets... for fun... tunnel vision need many tactic to see around siaaak...", "you'd find that modern contemporary Fatwas had declared it permissable, on the grounds that it was never haram to do so\nBut the vast majority of Muslim law comes from the 4 madhabs who lives in an almost 90% Muslim majority environment surrounded by War, 10centuries ago\nIn this case, celebrating Christmas would be like celebrating the festival of the neighboring enemy country\nMuslims are very conservative in the sense that no one dares to challenge opinions of Imams 1000years ago" ], [ "A few of my aunts have a weird problem.\n\"Why can't they believe me I'm a golden citizen? I don't want to queue like you young people\"\n🤣", "at least your aunt dont have the \" I suppose to be datin\" problem. Seri Paduka mentality yO...\nI wanna call up my aunt and talk to her long long over the phone :26561:", "Nope. She just don't like to be treated like she is in her early 40 or late 30 🤣\n\"I am old. I am tired.\"\n\"I want to be on the warga emas lane\"\nAhahahah", "slow slow... gonna off enjin feeling. HA HA HA HA HA... need to turn on the drama channel siaaaak" ], [ "Has anyone stayed at Casa Subang Apartment before? Is there a good place to rent/live? I am mainly looking from the perspective of maintenance, management, noisiness etc." ], [ "There's an old joke where a king heard about a very generous farmer, so he goes to the farmer and asks him a few questions. \"If you had two horses, would you give one away?\" The king asks. \"Of course!\" Says the farmer. \"If you had two houses, would you give one away?\" The king asks. \"Of course!\" Says the farmer. Now the king is delighted and says \"you are as generous as everyone says! One last question: if you had two rice fields, would you give one away?\" \"Oh, I couldn't do that,\" says the farmer. \"Why not?\" Asks the king. \"Because I actually have two rice fields.\"\nIt's so easy for the mouth to be generous, less so for the hands.", "The actual joke is that the king owns 10,000 horses, have a mansion larger than 1000houses, and has the power to confiscate every rice field in the country.\nBut he pretends to praise poor people for generosity" ], [ "What your view the latest new bout a 17years kill by a policeman", "pray to God for humility and blessings, and safety and wisdom... then no problem about bad things to happen.. that my view... sekian. also pray for motivation to use the energy for workout.. so no need to overheated..." ], [ "good evening everyone" ], [ "The most memorable highlight from my recent COP28 Dubai trip was actually outside of COP28 venue. I received a valuable advice from a friend 10 years my senior while enjoying 70 dirhams ice cream under Burj Khalifa. Hahah\nIt might have left a dent in the wallet but at least it’s creating a sweet memory.", "nah, while u got ur advice, just str8 celup the icecream to his face siaak.. that u can trust assure, u finessed." ], [ "So there are three separate Hololive events in the upcoming CF:\n23 afternoon - Hololive Meet with Holostars\n23 night -Viv:ID Cruise concert\n24 afternoon - Hololive Meet with FuwaMoco\nFor the two HoloMeet sessions, do I need to purchase additional tickets like with the Cruise concert?" ], [ "Anyone gone smartphone-less for few weeks? New phone wont arrive for another 1-2 weeks and old phone is sold to a buyer this weekend. Can i survive?", "Let people know about it so they can call/text you vs WhatsApp. Alternatively if you have an iPad/tablet let them know you can still be contacted through social media.\nOtherwise bite the bullet and get a low-cost smartphone. You can keep it as a spare anyways if you need one later in the future." ], [ "In the mid of feeling graduation blues...but I've got no time to lay around like salted fish. I'm a realistic piece of shit so I'd prefer to step into the workforce for money then proceed with a part-time masters, but my mom would prefer me to go for a full-time masters since it takes lesser time and my mom's also being paranoid about not having much time left (and I don't know how to keep her away from such pessimistic mindset). And then if my dad also insists on me getting a masters before working, I'm going to get torn between coursework and research mode masters programmes. At this point, I'm standing at a crossroad and I've nowhere to go other than working on my manuscript and submit my dissertation. Adulting is hard." ], [ "Hi. Can anyone suggest the cheapest for wifi at home? Soon going to rent a home. Are DIY wifi using hotspot from pocket wifi unlimited phone simcard any good?" ], [ "ChatGPT on the iPhone is so good.\nI have close friends who are Americans and English. While genuine connections with authentic people are invaluable and irreplaceable, ChatGPT is a much better listener. More intelligent, too. And just because it's AI, doesn't mean it agrees with everything you say. It can challenge you.\nChatting with it on the website by typing and talking to it on the phone is a completely different experience. Try it. It's very human.\nI just finished Barbie on HBO (yes, it's streaming now) and I had a good 20-minutes long conversation about how the movie affected me and the themes with ChatGPT.\nOh, the voice is incredibly human. The tempo is right. It clears its throat. It takes a breath once in a while. Sometimes there are background noises. Sometimes it stutters. These little quirks.", "Have u tried ChatGPT+ ?\nJust wondering if it’s worth it to pay RM99/month for that option", "The voice feature is now available to free users on the app.", "My last comment is incomplete. Have u personally tried the plus version?", "No, can't afford the 100RM per month. I'm broke.", "Can’t justify it myself yet", "My prof said that you can buy a shared account from Shopee. I haven't searched for it yet but he said such service exists." ], [ "Is T850 bus still going to 8 petaling? I saw 2021 notice that it stop going to some roads because of pasar malam" ], [ "anyone ever tried the alcoholic drinks (spirits, RTD cocktails) sold at KKMart? wanted to use them for mixers but I hear they're really dodgy" ], [ "Anyone bought an OEM smart lock on Shoppee and have an installer to recommend in KV?" ], [ "Planning to go to melaka. Where's the best place I can enjoy and connect with the nature?", "Pengkalan Balak beach. It's seriously underrated. At the same time just small mom and pop accomodations.\nAlternatively can spend some time at Philea Hotel" ], [ "Anyone can recommend me what to buy at Comic Fiesta 2023? It's my first time going.\nI would be grateful if you could suggest some artists to visit with their Twitter/Instagram usernames so that I can check out what they are going to sell at their booths.\nBesides that, anyone know which booth sells Pokemon, Anya (from Spy Family) and Demon Slayer souvenirs?\nYou may comment on my main post so that I can keep track of the comments easily on my profile: https://www.reddit.com/r/malaysians/s/2dZNc88wWW", "Take a round to find the stuff you want to prioritise. Nanti you run out of ammo then you sad.\nThat is unless there are specific artists you already follow so you rush them first.", "Muse Asia will have a booth there. They have SpyFam and Kimetsu fukubukuro IIRC." ], [ "Coco, formerly known as Crusty Cat, still looks raggedy after a year of staying with us. 😬 Her hair is not only long, it also looks similar to cats with curly hair mutation at some parts." ] ]

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[ [ "lol no." ], [ ":26556:", "wanna buy an estate to brag about being rich, bungolow and landed land in damansara will do" ], [ "A unit? No. The whole ass condo, yeah. :29091:" ], [ "Used to be the case in the 90s, now not anymore. Condo is getting smaller in size, scam centres and safe houses were set up in condo, the so-called high-end condo doesnt live up to its name. It's more of marketing hype.\nThe price is getting more expensive but the built quality is poor.. if you have the time, go read reviews of certain high-end condos online.\nThe status symbol now is when you have land. Because that translates to more space. More space in a time when everything is getting smaller and congested but pricier (a condo with 30 levels with 15-20 doors per level)\nMore space equals wealth. It's evident on the iphone you are holding, the one with more storage space is more expensive." ], [ "Yes, if it's a high end condo in a high end neighborhood." ], [ "If you ask me personally, I'd rather live in a landed house where I can have my own garden and have pets. Than stuck in a a Condo which doesn't even allow pets.\nSure, I may not have access to the Gym,Supermarket,Pool right under me, but I can live with that. I'd love to just wake up in the morning, make some tea, eat some pastries in My Garden, and then having cats & dogs. Ideal life for me tbh." ], [ "Not bad status, partly due to the marketing, definitely better than flat." ], [ "yes if you own a 2000 sqft condo in prime area" ], [ "Already, malaysia following the 5 c in singapore dream although that the 5c meta is long gone , now sg dream is live frugal and simple .\nIt depend your pov", "CMPHH now", "CMPHH\nthe meta truly changed , coin, MRT), public parks, HDB and hawker", "coin\nIs it like special, expensive coins like Krugerrand or.. ?", "Bitcoin" ], [ "Depends. If you’re from village and trying to find a better living in a city, then you bought a good condo, you made it.\nIf you born in the city and suburbs, then buy a good condo, maybe you just manage to do well for your life.\nIf you born in rich family and bought a condo, then probably you try to start your own life without your parents help after graduation." ], [ "Could be, I live in terrace and most people my age seems to enjoy having nice pools, gym and common areas for Instagram pictures.\nSpace is luxury for me, I'll pass on that lifestyle as it's not for me." ], [ "Yes, if it's Binjai on the par or Desa Kudalari" ], [ "Anyone flex on you with their condo are idiots lmao" ], [ "Used to be, if like in the 90s or early 2000. Now since condos are everywhere and its actually seen as a cheaper alternative for housing.\nIf its in the 90s, \"ko duduk condo?\" Huiyooo, \"ada swimming pool?\" Huiyooo, \"ada guard?\" Huiyooo.\nNowadays, ko duduk condo? Oh. Kat mana." ], [ "Depends lah.\nIf you have a nice, luxury condo marketed for ang mohs and helangs, sure.\nOtherwise, I think having a landed property is more \"power\".", "It's a flex if you can afford a landed house in the city.\nLanded house in Rawang or Semenyih? Maybe not." ], [ "Maybe if you own multiple units. If just one then I expect it to cost 2 million and above before I feel impressed. Heck I own one apartment and 1 landed and even then I feel I am a failure compared to my peers lol." ], [ "huh? why would it be?" ], [ "huh?" ], [ "I thought condos are for those who can’t afford landed houses. A real flex is owning a mansion in a gated residential area." ], [ "Only if it’s a penthouse" ], [ "Now it's double storey landed at prime, mature areas" ], [ "I live in a landed house and still no one care lol" ], [ "Depends on the location since they are numerous." ], [ "Used to be but now medium living rent is condo." ], [ "It just means you have the income to achieve that debt" ], [ "Only property agents make you feel that way" ], [ "Condo in my area half the price of the landed, what status symbol lol. I live condo because I can't afford landed" ] ]

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[ [ "the driver refused to let her store her luggage in the bus compartment, even after showing him their e-tickets\nOutrageous" ] ]

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[ [ "This is the common subscription scam tactic, almost all of them are fishy, cough those telcos...\nModern problem, required medieval solution, face to face, go to office, blast them, release your temper.", "You're not being barbaric, all of their subscription action is intended.", "Once got transfer to new place , and every position as mine got own parking lot . So the first month I got lots of ticket because i park almost anywhere I can . Then go to management and ask them for my own parking lot . Climb up and down the office for the next 2 month and finally had enough and just go to management and told them to do their fucking job. Alot of yelling and im pretty embarass with myself tbh. But sometime you need to put people in their place just to make a valid point and get things done." ], [ "Calling will get you nowhere. Do a walk in cancellation its a pain to physically go but its faster and hassle free", "got it will do it this week, thanks", "This is very true, same experience with unifi.", "I did this. Walk in but their staff said I must do it thru telephone only. They won't entertain my request", "Which outlet did you go to?" ], [ "Suggestion: don’t bother with calling them, either visit a nearby office to cancel the subscription face to face (you can be stern, but do not take out your frustration at the counter staff), or cancel via email. Ecentral has an article in BM setting out what you should include in your message which you can use as a base.\nhttps://ecentral.my/cara-terminate-tutup-akaun-astro-tanpa-ke-kaunter/\nSince this matter has been ongoing for some time, your email should set out a general timeline of termination requests (when did you call thier service line, dates, promises, etc), then say you’re giving them 3-5 business days to resolve this, otherwise you’ll have no choice but the escalate it to MCMC in order to resolve this matter. Never dealt with Astro before, but this approach usually forces a service provider to get thier act together." ], [ "Coway is the worst. Bastards are only able to do cancellations on certain days of the week and the process is so difficult\nFuck Coway", "Why?", "To cancel the request only can do it on certain days. If not mistaken Tuesday and Thursday only. Pastu after dah request they ‘forget’ to log in report. Then ding ding for 2 months and have the audacity to charge me extra 2 months because the termination is done after 2 months\nUntil now forcing to pay the 2 months bill, even though they took the machine and said the bill will be waived" ], [ "why not do walk-in cancel. ive done that with no issue", "thanks will do it this week" ], [ "No wonder Astro rugi... Such unethical practice", "agree , capitalism at its finest", "Actually its just greed, and no generousity. All economic model can turn into ruin because of greed." ], [ "There was a guy in Hong Kong who threatened to slash tv channel employee with knife because of these tricks.", "Yeah, when I saw this post I immediately think of that hk cable tv case lol" ], [ "Happened to me and my friends too. I will be very clear to ASTRO.\nI will never ever subscribe nor recommend them to anyone ever again.\nTeeriBAD customer service!" ], [ "As many in the thread said, walk in and cancel. I made a point of taking my Astro box with me and got it done." ], [ "Complain to KPDN" ], [ "We had this issue when we didn't pay for astro and the electric bill saying it'll return when we pay for it, but we never did.\nIn the end we just stopped the subscription and go with WiFi instead." ], [ "file report with consumer protection office." ], [ "Jawab wei u/Equivalent-Chair-620", "Woi aku sekolah lagi lah! Aku baru je form 4 ambik subjek perniagaan aku mane tau ape² macam mana nak cancel subscription Astro", "Jilake, back up astro macam ofis boy dkat astro. Ha pui!" ], [ "Stop paying. Easy." ], [ "What happens if you just stop paying?", "I maybe will get blacklisted in CTOS or etc", "i got experience this with Time Broadband before. They lawyered up and sent me a legal letter telling me to pay up or else...", "Damn. I should pay my bill then. Thought i could just ghost them", "Lesson i learned is to get them to ignore you with a paper trail. Do not phone call them, email them to cancel your service. At least you can show the court that you tried to reach out to them to cancel your service before you stop paying." ], [ "Contact Gobind Singh", "OP: hello minister, i want to cancel my astro subscription.\ngobind: .....\ngobind: hello AI, what is the job scope of digital ministry again?" ] ]

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[ [ "I take it you are not from Malaysia or at least dont live here. The park itself is great for family but school holiday starts tomorrow - meaning the park will most probably be packed with people. Might take longer to queue for rides. School holiday will be for 2 weeks until year end. If you are still here after new year, that would be a good time to go", "thanks for the reply.. Yep, I am a neighbour from South, and will have to travel up during school holidays as well, so guess no choice.." ], [ "It's rainy season too. Almost the entire outdoor park closes during heavy rain.", "thanks!" ], [ "It is actually raining season in Malaysia now, so outdoor ride will temporary close if it rains, but it is still a good place for family.\nI've been there twice, one time it suddenly had a downpour that all outdoor ride were closed, but it stopped after couple hours and I can continue enjoy the park for rest of the day. Just that there's always a few rides closed for maintenance, which were quite a bummer. One tip i can give is prepare your rain coat before going to Genting. You can easily get raincoat at any Mr DIY shop for few RM per piece, but the price at Genting is RM30/piece if I rmb correctly." ], [ "I just went last week despite the weather forecast showing raining, it was only raining at 5pm. My tips are to use virtual queue in the genting skyworld app so you can have the express line. Genting also have rainy day guarantee, read about it to see if you can be covered if it turns out to be raining.\nEdit: During the time I went, only night at mesum rides were closed. Other rides sometimes close for 30 mins - 1 hour but they would reopen them." ], [ "Even if you choose to skip the outdoor theme park during the day time, they currently have this Christmas thing where you can explore the park for free from the evening onwards, but without the rides. There will be performances and fake snow falling" ], [ "you want rides ? might you consider other places", "I was there because of the overall experience, cool weather and variety of activities.. Thanks for the reply!" ], [ "I have heard that many of the rides at the Sky Worlds theme park and thus it’s not a good time to go\nwtf are you talking man", "I meant \"are closed\". Thanks for picking this up. :)" ], [ "It’s like if you ordered universal studios or Disneyland from shoppee\nFew rides are open, so expect 1.5 hour q times without “fast pass” or whatever it’s called.\nYou do get a number of “fast track” that you have to register early for. Something like cut q for 5 rides, but you need an app to register for cut q and set a time like booking dentist." ] ]

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[ [ "His parliament seat is 98% Malay Muslim. He won't care about non-Malay votes.", "He should put it in their election manifesto. So first thing after they won. They will do it. I want to see how gerakan react to it.", "As if Gerakan has any say or power in PN. Nobody care if they stay or leaves.", "lol. Gerakan very important, PN sacrifice a BAYAN LEPAS demi GERAKAN." ], [ "Oh so how bout Bumi in Sabah and Sarawak?", "can we leave? please please…i mean just kick us out so west msia can save face, i don’t mind", "I can't with these stupid PAStards man, so stressful.", "One Saifoo is from Bersatu not PAS.", "Ya 1SaiFool is bangsatu, tapi lebih kurang Pastard la.", "Difference between the two is one is Malay first, the other only my Malay first", "Good point", "oh my bad, I thought he was from PAS, he's acting like one lol.", "Take penang and some peninsular cities too.", "The Sarawak government need to demand more devolution of power though. Fadillah better demand more from current government.", "You will be a part of Malaysia\nAnd you WILL be happy!\nOr atleast until the oil dries up.", "As much as I agree that your Borneans get a rough deal and you have been denied many things, with due respects, you lot are not ready for independence. Unfortunately, it is possible that Sabah and Sarawak will end up either becoming a satellite of Indonesia or Philippines.", "yeah yeah always the not ready for independence talk...no army la no police la no teachers la etc...where are they?? many at semenanjung", "Agreed...those cibai talks", "I heard this in Scotland as well. Lmao", "So many years talk of leaving, unable to leave or simply not able to leave? Sabah and Sarawak are part of Malaysia if you wish to incite treason have the courage to step up and do something, not hiding behind a pseudonym isa great start", "If there are a lot of me yeh sure... I'm not a dumbass like you. Sabah n Sarawak won't be in a shithole of a state if Tun Fuad Stephen didn't get assassinated by fck***. They're supposed to be just allies and not part of. Until they killed him", "Try to argue consistently without resorting to insult would greatly change the perception that pro Independence Borneans are capable of being civil.", "Hard being civil when people are being passive aggresive against you.", "Sabab need to raise their own army. Be like Scotland!", "This sounds a lot like abusive relationships where the abuser says \"please, you would not survive without me\" as a way to keep the victim complacent.", "Up to you how you frame it. I don't have vested interests. If they and you are so keen to leave, go ahead. Like you said, abuser and victim - not good. Do somethi g, don't just talk. Talk for so many years still talk", "Singapore has entered the chat.\nI'm totally fine being a vassal of Singapore if it means no more PAS nonsense from across the sea. Plus they'd be better administrators than GPS hands down.", "Look, it’s either Johor or you guys. They cannot defend both.", "Not hard to choose lah. We got resources. Johor only got Legoland. :3", "Watch your tongue mate, we’ve got Paradigm and Mid Valley, perfect getaway for Singaporeans. We serve better Wantan Mee than whatever dried mee you guys are serving there.", "Lol Sabah n Satawak have better foods tho", "Are you seriously comparing your wantan mee with Sarawak Laksa? /s", "I just remembered that Paradigm & MidValley also exists in JB besides having similarly named malls in KL", "You serve pisang goreng with kicap and laksa with spaghetti, your opinion on food is immediately invalid.", "lol", "The british said the same exact thing when we seeked for independance. Do you not see the irony here?\nIf majority of the people say they want out, the morally right thing to do is to follow the will of the people.\nIs the decision objectively bad economically, culturally, politically? No one can say for sure. Everyone has their own guess. But its a decision made by the collective will of consenting adults. No one can deny their wish while staying on the moral high ground.", "Nah man, you guys willingly join us, now your gonna sit there and let Mainland harvest resources from you forever", "Not willingly...were absorbed after they 'killed' Tun Fuad Stephens and the gang", "We also joined under heavy persuasion from LKY that everything would be aight if we stuck together, mana tau Malaya never intended to keep SG. After they got kicked out, LKY cried on TV and Stephen Kalong got ousted the following year, those former EM politicians were sufficiently scared shitless.\nThen came the 80s and 90s and Mahathir ruthlessly targeted politicial opposition parties and local media. Everyone bent the knee to him because he was smashing knee caps left and right.\nMan, Malaysia now is like a paradise of democracy qnd free speech compared to before.", "Why not join Singapore?", "Can I apply refugee status?", "take me with you.", "They don't exist in WM politic\nAnd EM leader won't have ball to speak out against it", "Lmao they just did\nhttps://youtu.be/4btWzPJg3m0?si=J5oggNL7zhnQc4sJ", "Us? We are second class to them. At this rate might as well we start preparing for home rule. I mean a bulk of government staff are Sabahan / Sarawakians. Hell the entire Renjer Rejimen is mostly Borneoans.", "Tbh I don’t get them. They just assume Bumi is only for Malay. The ignorance is woah", "I eould love to coup de tat stupid federal gov in sabah. Sabah n Sarawak needs new government", "Sarawak did it smartly with careful manoeuvring and playing kingmaker. GPS might not be the best but they are Sarawak first. Besides, The Pehin time is limited too, lets be pragmatic. He and Mahathir are the last of their kind.\nSabah can too be like us.", "I love sabah sarawak and I'm actually saddened how you guys truly felt. wish they would do something about it. I have also read many comments like this from different people in different states that want to split from malaysia and realise how bad our situation is. it is truly a failure from the government to give a equal rights to all of the states and people.", "Wan Ahmad doesn’t compete in east Malaysia.", "He is just typical politician that concentrate on his voter base. But this would not be good for his party and alliance", "What you guys think of a sabah and sarawak government separate from Malaysia?", "Why not join Singapore" ], [ "How insecure are you lol\nEven if a non malay wanted to run for pm no one will vote because its a non malay lmao. It'll take malaysia another 150 years before the citizens are open to the idea.", "It took the US over 200 years to have a black president.", "Yes but even they never banned it. Thats how stupid this mat jargon is.", "146 years, from the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863 till Obama became POTUS in 2009", "Comparing Malaysia to USA just as saying Malaysia will undergo societal / cultural revolution just like US is honestly farfetch analogy\nUS system is unique . Not that perfect but at least they can implement liberal democracy", "Ahh…the advantages of not having racial supremacy biases built into their national constitution 🥹", "They do have some weird stuff in their constitution about Native Americans", "to be fair they went through slavery which can be a lot worse than what malaysia currently is", "Even then it’s half white half black president, yet the other half is never talked about", "It’s need another cultural revolution*. Harsh truth.", "apocalypse would be here before these asshats brain can accept the idea" ], [ "There goes the \"Malaysian first Chinese prime minister that rules like lee kwan yew\" and \"Malaysian first Indian female prime minister that rules like Margaret Thatcher\" timeline.\nGotta keep the sacred timelines intact I guess.", "Indera Gandhi is the mother of the Indian nuclear weapons program\nI would like a nuclear armed Malaysia too", "Indian female PM is like alternate universe timeline for Malaysia..", "Ahem ... to our credit, we did have an Indian PM for 22 years and another 18 (?) or so months.\nUnfortunately, that dude was hell bent on being more Malay than Malay :D", "Why is ethnic Chinese compared to a ethnic Chinese example, but ethnic Indian compared to a white British woman example? lol", "Kan. Especially when Indhira Gandhi is right there." ], [ "I am certain minorities would prefer their own children to become doctor, engineer and programmer so they can work overseas rather than becoming another honourable Syed Saddiq." ], [ "Why is there always guys like him whom are afraid the minority will eat em up?? Like did we do anything wrong??", "They are still living in 1969 it seems.", "His dream is do nothing and become a minister. Who can blame him", "Precisely. If things have ever gone wrong, look back again.. it has always been a Malay PM. Hence.. if things ever go wrong, takkan salah minoriti pula.", "Insert the mandatory Salah DAP reply...", "Yes, coz you all control the economy and wealth in the country.\n/s", "They fear that they will be subject to what they are doing. Which says alot about thier beliefs tbh.\nPpl got better things to do than play racism, we got a economy to grow and people to take care of.", "Not like he's tasty if i roast him", "BBQ sauce makes most things tasty.", "The problem isn't him. The problem are the people who voted for him and his party", "Education.", "It's not fear. He knows what he's doing.", "It’s because it’s easier to bully when you outnumber them 3:1 , it riles up the maximum fear while committing the bare minimum effort" ], [ "I think the Malays should support a non-muslim PM if they really want a cleaner and more competent government. The non-muslim PM would be held on to much higher standards than any previous PMs. The Malays don't have to worry about their special privileges, the royalty position or Islam. No non-muslims would be dumb enough to encroach that territory. But let's be honest, the Malays do not want a clean and competent ruler/ government. They want a corrupt government so that the elite Malays would benefit from all the government contracts and GLCs. And the middle/lower class Malays are more than happy with the peanuts that get thrown at them by that same corrupt government.", "It's because of ego. \"Asalkan orang kita.\" This is one of the reasons lots of Malays also are suffering today.\nMalaysia has a lot of resources and yet Singapore and other neighbouring countries are doing better or at least already catching up. But why? Because the resources are not being utilised correctly. They're only used to fatten up those fat cats who kononnya fighting for their rights.\nImagine putting someone capable up there regardless of the warna kulit, we would be a leading country in the neighbourhood.", "A shame isn't it. A beautiful, plenty of natural resources, no major natural disasters and generally a peaceful country.", "Curse of resources.", "Plus feudalism which encourages a paranoid and fearful mindset", "My father told me we never really got out of feudalism, I can see why he came to that conclusion.", "LOL", "LOL at your LOL.", "My point is that the they will never want that. The concepts of clean governance and a corruption free country and not comprehensible to them.", "Kita jaga kita was never about msians, or malays in general or support lokal.\nIt was about the top 1% corrupt cronies jaga-ing their piece of the pie for themselves and their bloodlines for generations to come. Disgusting.", "I’m curious when you say Malays don’t want a clean government, considering those sitting in the current unity government right now don’t exactly have clean hands. Or don’t forget it was also the Malay vote that pushed BN out in 2018. We can argue on the competency part, but I think it’s wildly racist of you to say that Malays don’t want a clean government. That Umno (who is majorly associated with corruption) was rejected in the last elections should at least signal that they want a clean government. Just that—and this is where the racism comes in—they want it to be Malay-Muslim as well.\nLet’s not pretend as though Pakatan and the non-Malay candidates are clean. You only need to look at Perak DAP and what the Penang government has pulled over these years.", "The worst of Umno got sacked or left, and go to PAS. Malay wanted a clean govt but voted for PN PAS?", "The worst of Umno got sacked or left.\nlooks at Zahid Hamidi, Najib, Tengku Adnan, etc. who are still Umno members, and also part of the Madani government\nApart from Wan Saiful in Bersatu whose case is still ongoing, how many corruption charges since 2018 have strongly stuck on any PN elected reps? Let alone PAS?\nThink about this when you want to consider why people choose to vote based on “cleanliness”." ], [ "Majoritarian cunt", "Imagine if west malaysian Chinese and Indians combine together with east malaysians. They should be in the the majority i guess as non malays", "Bases on DOSM, Malay population is 57% of the whole country. So malay as a whole is still a majority in Malaysia. The east malaysian bumiputera is 12 percent of the Malaysian only. And proportionally Malay population is rising while minority is declining." ], [ "This dog WAF does not even see Sabah and Sarawak Bumi as equal bumis." ], [ "So therefore he's also saying that a Non-Malay can be PM? Wah lets see how quickly the cops call him in. Will it be as fast as they called in Kit Siang?\nPDRM - ::crickets::", "\"seorang Melayu beragama Islam\" he said", "What he's saying is ada Melayu yang bukan beragama islam.", "\"...hanya seorang Melayu yang beragama Islam..\"\nWhere you got that he mentioned Non-Malay can be PM?", "By calling for the constitution to be amended to make a limitation that only allows Malay Muslims to be PM, he inadvertently admitted that the current constitution as it stands now, does in fact permit a non-Malay to be PM.", "It does i guess to my understanding. Only the Agong should be a malay Muslim. Pm can be of any race. It's not stated in the constitution anyway", "u/RohitPlays8 u/Redcarpet1254, I don't follow - what are you referring to, Mat Jargon's statement or Kit Siang's? and are you saying them one of them is accurate/ inaccurate?", "Now I'm similarly lost. Referring to your comment that he is also saying that non-Malay can be PM, I'm assuming you meant Mat Jargon is saying that? Or are we wrong", "Ahhh, OK. Mat Jargon, by asking for a constitutional amendment that only a Malay can become Prime Minister, is de facto acknowledging the fact that the Constitution allows for non-Malays to become PM." ], [ "Thanks for confirming that non-malays can be PM!", "Ikr? LoL" ], [ "This violates Article 8" ], [ "So a non Muslim orang asli/asal can't be the PM?\nSome natives are better than other natives?" ], [ "Need more proof why the majority is very tissue?", "Iman also like tissue. We need to be coddled and not exposed to other religions (thus making us more ignorant) lest we become \"enticed\" to convert. Because that's totally how it works IRL." ], [ "Letak melayu sahaja pun, nak buat apa? People like Anwar and Mahiaddin have proven unable to govern effectively. Every single PM we had continue to abuse the system for their own benefit supported by corrupt businessmen.", "Letak siapa2 pon korup juga.. its Malaysia meh.." ], [ "if people like him take over, I can imagine something like this happening.\nA 7 year-old Chinese said he wants to be PM when he gets older.\nThen the teacher make police report and the child is sent to juvenile school and the parent is jailed for sedition for teaching their child \"dangerous thoughts\".", "Sometimes I wish we minorities can just leave Malaysia and the entire Malaysian economy to them. Just start a new country somewhere else where we are actually accepted.\nMaybe we should just go back to our respective countries since they don’t want us yea. It’s ok, we will bring all our knowledge and experience back, you guys can keep the businesses and the company assets, we will do fine.\nMelayu pegang ekonomi, peganglah gomen. Take everything back, one condition, we leave Malaysia since you guys don’t want us here despite giving us citizenship sigh..\nAnd then they wonder why Malaysia got brain drain. Want their cake and eat it too ya?", "It exists. It’s called “Singapore”.", "Awesome bro, you want us to leave ya?", "Not particularly. It would be nice to see Malaysia develop and staying while watching it develop would be the best case scenario, but preferably without the animals who are caught up in their stupid tirades about race and religion to the extent that they haven’t progressed since 1957 while their smarter brothers and sisters have moved on but are still trying to bring down the success of this country by breeding as fast as they can and playing victim.\nYou should leave if you have personal goals that cannot be fulfilled by this country (many migrants) but stay if you can achieve them anyway (my case so far), I think. This country has no need for blind loyalty.", "True. Those animals.", "i started tearing up reading this, as a malay, who am i to ask you to stay but...\nedit: i didnt know how to phrase it, deleted stay because its hypocritical as id like to leave too", "well tbh, as a cina\nIf we are looking at china rn compare to malaysia the only comfortable way to live in china is either not to be china citizen but lives there, or have a lots of money\n......pretty sure I aint going to undo the whole reason why my ancestor migrate here in the first place", "I wouldn’t want to be anywhere else in the world bro. Europe nice and all (fuck USA), Japan nice and cool, Aussie also not bad, China up and coming.\nBut I can’t la, Malaysia my home. Fuck man, accept us pls 🥲 I just want whats best for my country and its common rakyat\nI don’t care if my PM is malay, indian, chinese, female, male, gay, lesbian or pondan lol. My only requirement is macam ni:\nMust be born and bred true Malaysian\nHave the country interests in mind (long term and short term)\nMust enjoy mamak food just like all of us so they are not just from the elites that are out of touch\nFair and just to all Malaysians", "curious why you flipped USA off lol. I have also had a preference for Europe over USA", "USA is a hypocrite for all intents and purposes. It’s basically a big bully on a global stage when it comes down to it.\nAlso it’s a pure capitalist nation. Social welfare exists somewhat but only exists to give companies avenues for CSR. It also has a severely warped economy that prioritises businesses and the military whilst taking advantage of more and more of its lower class citizens.\nI prefer Europe, socialism isn’t always bad if it’s kept in check with capitalism, and vice versa.", "yeah, no\nas sympathetic as you may be for our plight as nons, i don't hear much voice coming from your side of the community. sure, your numbers are small and pretty insignificant but i have never seen a huge movement of a segment of malays wanting to fight for our rights too. all i see is people mocking my ethnicity, telling people like me to leave, mocking my religion, all in the name of their \"one true god\" and i dont see that many people condemning then that happen to be Malay. granted I live in pahang, but even scrolling through social media i have never seen loads of malays condemning politicians like waf and anyone else like minded like that azhar Idris comment about nons the same way how white Americans would voice out, even protest in the streets for the betterment of minorites in America. Instead the only protests made by malays here are protesting against equality for nons like that anti icerd rally years ago. and yet you guys still insist that \"other countries are more racist than us\" pathetic\nso no, i don't wanna stay. im leaving this shithole the moment I'm able to. To hell with this fucking place", "i understand, i agree and im sorry that i dont do what is needed to, i personally dont keep up with malaysia because everyday life is already proof that this is a shithole, i give up because im a coward and unaware", "That country is Singapore.", "All the progressives should just shift over to east malaysia ..", "Lol how far east? East coast or Sabah Sarawak?", "Then Malaysia becomes Israel 2.0 minus the tech and Western unconditional support they got all this while. If Malaysia becomes Israel 2.0, I just hope Malaysia is economically and technologically advance and manage to charismatically gain Western especially US and Saudi support.", "Malaysia will become Palestine 2.0, not advanced n progressive like Israel. But backward n stupid, because rakyat support politicians like Wan Ahmad Fayhsal. This country is game over d.", "Ok doomer" ], [ "PN has exhausted all the conservative malay votes. They cannot get beyond the usual northern areas unless they get the non-malays as well.", "That's what I've been saying during the August state elections, but the doomers refused to listen.\nPN-PAS has maxed out all their rural Malay support and can go no further, just like how PH-DAP maxed out their Chinese support. DAP understands that and is why they're in a coalition with BN and GPS via PH.\nMalaysia is comprised of 3 demographic blocs, Rural Malay Muslim, Urbanites, and East Malaysia. And just dominating one bloc is never enough to win you power to Putrajaya. PN dominates the first bloc, and are actively trying to piss off the other two blocs.", "Bingo. Completely agree.", "They will just shoo nons out of the country instead of trying to win their votes.", "That’s the thing, they know that the nons are the ones bringing money into the economy like the chinese businessmen. If they do that, they won’t have anyone bringing in money for their pockets after becoming government." ], [ "Im sure he doesnt expect anwar to do it. This is just a political move to put anwar in the spot. If anwar really does it, which im sure he wont, DAP will definitely not agree to it. And if he doesnt, PN or this guy can say anwar is DAP puppet.\nEither way anwar will lose.\nAnd like I said before, PN will use this for a long time and im sure in the next election on why malay should not vote DAP or any party linked to DAP.\nYou guys should thank lks, he pretty much handed a golden cannon ball to PN.", "Just another reason why DAP leaders except Loke just shouldn't talk, zip and go on the day. Guess LKS just can't resist it. LGE, Nga, Hew all luckily still behaving and not getting comfortable because they know they can't talk without offending anyone.", "If u want to be politician u need to offend your op. U think going up in politician relied on silent? There a camp in politic.", "Yeah how did that goes in 2018 smh, talk so much and cant control their statements, there is time to speak and none at all if you cant even make one speech right. I am glad DAP realised this and let Loke handles the speeches.", "Yes Loke is really handling it. The lim is just talk big and loud there. They should realise their peak era is over though.\nBut look at current Penang infighting, hmmm" ], [ "Sabahans and Sarawakian should file police report for instigating racial sentiments. Seriously. What a scumbag who has no business being in government." ], [ "Thanks for making it clear, WAF.. Our Borneo friends, it's your time to spread this to your families, let Sarawak and Sabah's MPs know that we don't want them to work with PAS again" ], [ "Wow, wonder will this kind of statement be investigate under sedition act 1948?", "Tak boleh nanti walaun PN kondem kata double standard and proceed to spread misinformation on TT" ], [ "Shall non Malay migrate to Sabah and Sarawak?" ], [ "what a sad country.\nincredibly multicultural, amazing biodiversity. shitty politicians and equally shitty voter base.\nthese fucks will stop at nothing till malaysia turns into a taliban state. using race and religion just to rile up the voters to secure your seat so you can retire extremely comfortably while shipping your children away to study so they can grift for you. fuck politicians and fuck malaysian politicians especially. expired fucks with nothing to give and everything to take.", "100%" ], [ "#Anjir" ], [ "Shut the fuck up Mat Jargon!" ], [ "Aku memang benci muka dia.. tapi kepala dia lagi aku tak boleh terima", "Setuju. Muka dia memang macam sama sial haprak dgn sikapnya." ], [ "Better let Iban or Kadazan people become PM" ], [ "As a Malay Muslim myself, I'm 100% against this guy's statement.\nI'd rather have a competent, non corrupt non-Malay, non-Muslim PM than an irresponsible corrupted Malay Muslim PM. not against Malay Muslims but against people who are undeserving of the PM title.", "My family called me kafir for thinking like that LOL.", "You are the rare breed. You are precious. Keep it. Dont change.", "Thank you for this. However, many Malaysian politicians are spewing lies so often that they sound like those lies are the truth. My only wish as a Malaysian is the public don't forget that what we want is a capable and accountable leadership that take cares of everyone. And since the wish I have is agnostic in nature then leave religion out of it le...", "If only majority Malay Muslim think rationale like you, this country would be able to be saved. But as of now, we going towards Taliban nation.", "God forbid that (being talibanised)", "its actually simple as that.. but yeah, tunggang selagi boleh tunggang.. make yourself loud enough.. and then wonder why there is no 'PAS' in sabah and sarawak.. this guy man..." ], [ "how about non-malay who is muslim, fayhsal? tell me you are racist without telling me you are racist." ], [ "\"Melayu beragama Islam\", my gosh these fuckers completely sideline the non-Malay Bumis, further reinforcing that the country is owned by Malay only" ], [ "<image>" ], [ "I guess I'm not gonna pay tax then" ], [ "WAF ni bodoh. Yg pangkah dia pun sama bodoh." ], [ "Cheers from Singapore. Keep it up. Hoping for 4:1 in 2024.", "Believe long term getting there. But hopefully got more human n less birds visiting from Singapore. U know, those \"chip chip chip\" bird." ], [ "Malaysia already half chinese PM like Abdullah Badawi and half indian like Mahathir.", "They are constitutionally Malay." ], [ "The insecurities of these people is amazing." ], [ "ugh. ffs. so called muslim but so much hatred inside. how do you oray everyday and feel your innerself clean is beyond me.", "This is an example of a lebai\nHow can someone claim to be pious and holy but with so much hate in them?\nI would argue being pious (thinking youre better than everyone because you think you show more religious devotion) is a frowned upon thing in most religions, probably islam too." ], [ "Oh, its the \"Print money to solve inflation\" guy, isnt it?" ], [ "Ight guys, time to find another country.", "down south!!!!" ], [ "Cibai fella. We non’s can govern better than you Fayhsal" ], [ "Bersatu racist scum" ], [ "As a malay muslim, IDGAF. Muslim, malay or not we need a competent PM with a good team for the country" ], [ "Singapore is lucky. Malaysian are seeing the future of talibanism.", "eastern states should leave if thats how its going.\nlets hope malaysia dosent go that route" ], [ "Malaysian version of the KKK\npiece of shit he is." ], [ "Where are those \"bOtH sIdE aRe tHE sAMe , vOtINg iS mEaNinGLeSs\".\nas imperfect as it is the current government is, as shitty as it is PH have to work with Zahid BN, it will never be as terrible as a PN/BN led government.", "Americans got the \"vote blue no matter who\"\nWe got the \"asalkan bukan PN\"", "Canada has ABC.\nAnyone but Conservatives.", "Exactly. That's what i been saying." ], [ "This is clearly an extremely important issue that should be dealt with urgently. Clearly, there are many non Malays just waiting in the wings to usurp the PM’s position. Everything else for e.g., cost of living, healthcare or education can just wait. No issue." ], [ "Should request that people who actively discriminate against Chinese to not be allowed to have Chinese names.\nHe thinks calling himself Yuan Huaishao will endear him to us when he pulls shit like this? Fuck off.\nHe thought he could own the Cina-Libs by this silly stunt, but didn't realize he also just pissed off the Non-Muslim Bumis in Sarawak and Sabah as well in one fell swoop, sending the clear message that \"some Bumis are more equal than other Bumis\".", "Komunis mula tunjuk belang. Depan berkokok untuk bangsa tapi belakang nafsu kuat untuk kuasa dan wang", "I dont see how this is communist. Its more so the usage of identity politics and corruption.", "It's the playbook of all autocrats and it's a staple of all communists like USSR.", "communism does not mandate dictators. Its people who use it to gain support and then get all power.\nIf you read the books made by those who came up with the belief, youd see that the \"comminist\" countries dont even follow the ways.\nMy opinion is communism cannot work on a large scale like countries and can only work in small comminities as a country has too many people with too many unique needs and wants.", "What's an example of Communist in 2023?", "People of any intelligence in Malaysia will accumulate money and oppress you and all your generations until you are dried up, purely working in the service industry, and crying out your meaningless “bangsa” cry as your final words as people step their elite feet on your face and your grandchildren’s faces until and unless you repent :)", "If you had even bothered to look up my anti-CCP post history, you will realize what a silly comment you're making.", "Everyone is equal but some people is more equal than others is the common understanding for people living under the boots of the USSR. You can guess who's the communist based on the OP.", "Saya confuse. Kenapa komunis? Depan tunjuk berkokok untuk bangsa tapi belakang nafsu wang dan kuasa, bukankah itu Melayu dan PAS?", "My post is adding context to the post that says \"Some Bumis are more equal than other Bumis\". It match what pipits under communists rule felt, hence, the Tweet is just another commie." ], [ "\"I know, let's print more money.\"" ], [ "Well well well, but look at The Rock Obama, the first black president of united state which is for so long been a white people being elected. Just look on his administration in white house portal, hes done so much for America itself.\nI vote quality over quantity", "Name is White House,but got black president. Amwrica is confused. So i propose Malaysian parliament be renamed Malay house and only malay can enter. So this is to prevent confusion for all n make things fair for all. /S" ], [ "Most Useless MP Award goes to...", "There's so many in that bloc" ], [ "I'd be so mad if I were a Malaysian Non Malay Bumiputera Muslim." ], [ "Lol, so many extra sources of law? Wasiat raja-raja melayu and unwritten social contract, that the ketuanan melayu folks can invent and distort as they wish? Truly bolehland." ], [ "Talk about insecurity and inferior complex lol..." ], [ "This conversative man really got his brothers living in so-called liberal land USA pursuing a football career while he’s trying his absolute best to embody a bigoted mindset uno !" ], [ "You can implement that but let the Borneo have their independence" ], [ "Why drag the innocent kaum pribumi into your shitalks when all you are championing is Malay, Malay, Malay ?" ], [ "Did he forget that quite a number of our PM's are non Malays? and the longest serving PM was an Indian Muslim and he was the best(at that time of course). Why are the malays so afraid of non malay muslims becoming a PM? Apa yang takut? melayu tak melayu tapi saudara segama kamu jugak kan? Ke bila cakap pasal bangsa, saudara seagama diketepikan semata-mata untuk kuasa ketuanan? PAS lagi dahsyat kata parti agama Islam tapi mengapa sokong melayu saja? Mengapa tak kemukakan calon non melayu muslim sebagai ketua PAS or calon PM? Islam untuk melayu saja ke?" ], [ "Point number 5 lol. It's like only the Malays and \"Pribumis\" fought a glorious bloody war to gain independence for Malaysia. Bitch please. We gained independence because the British Empire ran out of money and found the most convenient way to peace out." ], [ "When you are out of move in chess~" ], [ "Stupid..." ], [ "Tukar nama negara sekali kepada Tanah Melayu la, ini bukan Malaysia yg berbilang kaum." ], [ "I'm glad the majority of my malay friends said that they don't give a shit about malay prime minister. Bangla, chinese or Indian as long as they can work." ], [ "PDRM need to check this guy if he is an extremist. In today’s world, where the minority can and had already proven to be a better leader than the majority (cue Obama), no one in the right sense of mind will come up with this. Unless he is a Malay supremacist.", "no one in the right sense of mind will come up with this. Unless he is a Malay supremacist.\nHis coalition controls 5 states where their target audiences are mostly Malay supremacists", "5? I thought 4 only.", "They should, but the chances of them doing so is low. Maybe if he does something really blatantly undefensible that forces PDRM to do something to save face." ], [ "Told you PN racist as faq" ], [ "Idiot can keep quiet eh" ], [ "Knn LKS if retired from politics just shut the fking hell up la. Even us VERY hate speech like this. Bloody hell this father and son creating so much drama when not in power.", "LKS just state a fact in the constitution, and Fayhsal just confirm LKS is correct . What is wrong for stating a fact from constitution?" ], [ "Is it weird that I remembered I learned that pm must be Malay Muslim during my PA time? Anyone has the same impression?" ], [ "Can asteroid just hit Malaysia and let no race survive? Fuck.\nTill this very day it still annoys the fuck out of me that we have to tolerate this bunch of monkeys that think they are superior and what shit.", "Why need to kill innocent as well? Kill the monkeys can d la. Something must be serious fuck broken inside you for being able to wish for 35 million people demise. You are no different to a fucking giant terrorist. Better seek help before you grab AK 47 n walk to the street yourself." ], [ "Yawn 🥱 ..." ], [ "Someone panicking lol" ], [ "He does realise \"unwritten consensus\" means its not part of the contract, right?\nWhat the fuck can define what's \"unwritten\" is? And who the fuck is the \"consensus\" here?\nSo who's giving the \"igauan\" here dumbass?" ], [ "This guy is just there to play with sentiment and words." ], [ "There is no need to have this stated in the constitution.. Simply because, for appointment as PM and MB for states, must get YDP Agong or State Sultan approval. It's a built in mechanism to ensure only Muslim Malays can be appointed.", "If the YDPA and Sultan agrees for a Non-Muslim PM, you know our country already in the shithole as it means there is NO OTHER qualified Muslim to be PM." ], [ "Sometime I wonder where his brain went" ], [ "" ], [ "There's no Muhammad Adib this time, so PAS will be using this to topple the government" ], [ "Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha." ], [ "🤣🤣🤣" ], [ "I want a non Malay pm so badly right now, and I don’t care he / she is a Chinese or Indian" ], [ "kit siang really should shut up really , everything he said give pas more vote" ], [ "Same person that suggests printing more money everyone" ], [ "Kit Siang should just stfu. What he is doing is indirectly sabotaging DAP position in the government. Such a stupid brainless old man." ], [ "I dont have hope for the politikus nowadays... it's like main rumah2.." ], [ "Ahh, here comes Mr Print Money again" ], [ "And Sarawak Sbah still think the Malaya counterparts will respect them, truth is there is a lot of people there who only wants a Malay PM while also disregarding the other Bumis. They don’t buy the multicultural Malaysia thing and yet SS thought they’re the Saviour for maintaining multiculturalism in Malaysia but their friends in semenanjung see otherwise. Lol just break out from the federal la." ], [ "Ever wondered why Malaysia is straggling behind other SEA countries ? Because many politicians, and even Malaysians themselves are stuck in this antiquated thinking of the 1960s." ], [ "How insecure is this guy? Sounds like an irresponsible political stunt for publicity and votes" ], [ ":/" ], [ "Apabila peti kosong bersembang" ], [ "Wtf this racist law is still around?" ], [ "Has this idiot forgotten Sabah and Sarawak?" ], [ "Sometimes i need i should marry a muslim and convert so that my future generation all can be privileged status in this country.", "Thats what they want, they want the minorities gone by legislating them away. Dont give them what they want.", "Noooo", "You don't necessarily need to marry a Muslim lol. Sabah and Sarawak have bumi people that are non Malays and non Muslim too", "just go to another country, don't eradicate your future generation's heritage and identity for this shitty government" ], [ "He just upgraded himself from having a very punchable face to a very shootable one." ], [ "I'd agree that Kit Siang needs to shut up and stop stirring the pot unnecessarily. But the third point reeks of ketum and dam." ], [ "Trust me, it is unrealistic for non Malay to be a Prime Minister if the parliament members are 80-90% in the building, with majority of voters are Malays, and still rely on the other races to form a government. For me, LKS is just barking looking for a non Malay PM as a symbol than having a working ethics. I was hesitate when Obama was elected but at least he leave with a good legacy towards the country. Malaysia: the non Malay PM will be as a puppets from the coalition just like George Bush was in his tenure." ], [ "as a Malay Muslim. i dont mind a prime minister is a non malay... BUT... he/she must be a MUSLIM.. dosent have to be ustazah/ustaz or agamawan.. im gonna receive lot hate here.. also I stand by it. Its better for a muslim majority country to be rule by a muslim. just my 2 cent", "So basically fuck Sabah and Sarawak also then? Majority aren't Muslims over here. You forgot that we are half of Malaysia here" ], [ "good luck with passing that in parliament, dude", "there could be real possibility that would pass" ], [ "I remember this guy, he talked a lot of cock back in 2020, then disappeared. Is this him trying to grab headlines again? Fucking moron." ], [ "heheh unwritten means unwritten.... he may feel he's entitled for some reason but something tells independence would have been a while lot harder to achieve had the silent part became very explicit.... :29091:" ], [ "What a racist statement.\nWhile the whole world is moving forward, we have politicians like this trying to divide us." ], [ "I don't know if Quran agree with that one." ], [ "Mamat ni mmg jenis mengelabah tetek :26554:" ], [ "It’s PN. They are just stupid. 😂" ], [ "Sigh... This kinda shit again. And not doing the actual shit that matters, take improving the public transport system for starters" ], [ "He just wants to watch the world burn by dividing." ], [ "I farted. Now make it news" ], [ "I don't get it but then again no one seem to get it either. Its the fear of worst case scenarios that drive this type of rhetoric. The 'it might, might not happen to us' is a scary notion to contemplate. The imagining of so many possible outcomes that end horribly wrong for all of us can easily be made in a single decision.\nThat type of uncontrolled, chaotic thinking, will make anyone, nay, everyone say the most asinine statements, and reveal the darker halves of each of us. For most of us, and yes, I do mean most of us, hold back this darker self (for all us us suffer this), with morals, faith, and well, fun and harmless hobbies. It doesn't hurt to have good people around either. And that's a good thing. It means we still have a chance, if ever so slightly.\nWhat's hilarious about this is that such an outcome is in all likelihood, inevitable and so too the chaos that comes with it. And after all that madness, revolution (and some possible growing pains), will there be a better, more unified society? One that doesn't take away the right and opportunity for a better life for everyone, equally.\nI don't know, but I'm ever so eager to find out.", "he forgot that our country have this layers of decision makers.. the jemaah menteri kabinet, dewan rakyat, dewan negara, raja-raja and then there is Agong.. I swear people that termakan \"Melayu akan hilang, Islam terancam, Kuasa raja-raja tergugat\"... wtf man" ], [ "Why is it double standards when it comes to discussing only Malay can be PM?", "racism :D", "Number one name of the game." ], [ "Race-based leadership again. Instead of capabilities. jeez... And that's only how far this country can get. Good job 🫡" ], [ "Mungkin, dengan cara ini, sedikit sebanyak dapat memulihkan sokongan orang Melayu di negara ini kepada Kerajaan Campuran pimpinan beliau berbanding memperagakan capal, songkok, cium keris, atau bertiwikrama bahasa!\nLol mintak tolong tapi sempat lagi nak umpat orang lain!" ], [ "Once again, Orang Asli di S.S kena bulat bulat." ] ]

[ "🔙Throwback Thursday" ]

[ [ "I laughed when the ads mention sesudu gula.. As if not sweet enough", "I like the mamak style diabetes-in-a-week level condensed + evaporated milk, dinosaur the powder on my shit, pour up four and get some more kinda Milo. It's the Malaysian way.\nSesudu gula is like the Australian way. If my blood sugar doesn't spike the moment it touches my tongue, I ain't having it.", "Yeah Milo is basically sugar. I love the drink but fuck Nestle so I'm not going to drink it anytime soon." ], [ "Boikot because they raised the price to rn44. When malaysian start to boycott, suddenly it’s 35-38. This is just pure greed from their side" ], [ "That flash is making him look like a cyborg.", "Blood dragon remaster", "", "what blood dragon are we talking about hmm", "Only one of the best first person shooters of all time, Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon, starring Michael Biehn as a cyber commando determined to stop his former commander gone rogue from taking over the world." ], [ "Bro the eye 💥", "Perfect meme material.", "Brighter than my future" ], [ "I thought Rashid Sidek was on the Milo ad packaging way before the boycotting started 🤔" ], [ "“Boikot 2 minggu je”" ], [ "Guys, I’ve seen this add like wayyyyy back before this whole thing started" ], [ "y isn't he boikoiting produk US?\ny he sapot violetnce?", "The pay is in malaysia ringgit", "Milo US, ke?\nI thought it's Ovaltine..." ], [ "Fuck Nestle and not just the Israel Palestine thing. Unfair trade practices, poor workers condition, manipulation and exploitation of 3rd world farmers, water monopoly, giving everyone diabetes, anti breast milk gaslighting. If there is a poster boy for everything wrong with capitalism, Nestle is the food and beverages sector representative (as much as EA and Acitivision Blizzard is to gaming)", "Wtf I love Nestle even more now", "there's a sub for that r/fucknestle i think", "Here's a sneak peek of /r/FuckNestle using the top posts of the year!\n#1: On the London Underground | 357 comments\n#2: Fuck Pepsi too | 261 comments\n#3: F Nestle | 72 comments\nI'm a bot, beep boop | Downvote to remove | Contact | Info | Opt-out | GitHub" ], [ "All using android phone that made in China who sterilize and reducated Uighurs", "Don't forget most tech companies invested in Isreal, phone boycott when?", "reddit lain /s" ], [ "Household goods are not really affected by the boycotts. Milo has been doing this type of branding for a long time" ], [ "I know that eye, he came from the future to save his family. Now he's working with Deadpool and Domino in a mutant team called X-force.", "Malaysia truly ada 'cable' to kontrak government :26554:" ], [ "They should ban Petronas and boikot that.", "why la? :29091:", "I also dunno bro. Just wanted to mention a company that is full of corruption and greed. I could be wrong though. Or i could be right. It’s such a tricky situation." ], [ "wait a minute. are we supposed to boycot MILO?", "not milo specifically but nestle as a whole if Im not wrong.", "ah, OK. thank you for the clarification!" ], [ "Even if theres no boycott due to israel you guys shouldn't be drinking milo due to the high sugar content that would cause diabetes and potong kaki right?", "I agree with everything you just said.\nBUT MILO DINOSAUR IS SO GOOD" ], [ "There are the brands from Nestle. Too many!\nhttps://www.nestle.com/brands/brandssearchlist" ] ]

[ "Economy & Finance" ]

[ [ "Walk in restaurants/stores you want to work in and just ask if they have any available positions for newbie, fastest way to get hired instead of waiting like a dead fish for them to get back on your job applications", "This, everywhere near your house.\nBig mart is good, you get exposed to various normies customers, minimum wage laborious general workers, workflow and management. You will get an ideal of disparity between your skills vs normies that help you to obtain a good job with great wages in the future, it will clear your mind.\nYou may get nice ideas even being a temporary kuli, how to be efficient, prevent mistakes and management." ] ]

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[ [ "It was the Oriental Village. It looked nice 10 years ago but steadily deteriorated to what you see now. If I'm honest, the whole of Langkawi where the private sector isn't managing is slowly rotting away. For example, look at the signboards leading to tourist attractions. Dirty and it gives an indication of what lies ahead.\nLangkawi resident of almost 5 years. Beautiful place badly managed." ] ]

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[ [ "Generally non Muslim wouldn’t care tbh.\nBut a Muslim girl with Tudung if seen in a bar by crazy religious people, she will get into trouble.\nOn top of that, owners will be dragged to hell because we practise it’s-always-non-Muslim’s-fault culture here.\nSo like either go tudung free or just as others suggested- duduk rumah, don’t menyusahkan orang lain.", "If really want to go bar and also wear a \"tudung\", wear a hat, beanie, or a hoodie jacket. It's smth I know some of my muslim friends do when they tag along to a bar.", "Or full platemail armor", "Generally non Muslim wouldn’t care tbh.\nI'm sure the girl in tudung will get a couple of looks because of the rarity. Not because they're judging as you said non-Muslims really don't care as she's an adult herself, but some might be scared if this is gonna cause trouble.", "All the incident is just one random dude took a photo and caption “random Muslim girl in hijab at a bar”, post on socmed. That’s it.\nViral storm incoming.", "I wouldn't put it past a sheltered non-Muslim stupid enough to post a photo thinking \"how cool is that\", not considering the obvious backlash.", "Most posters on socmed fall into category of non thinking of backlash\nPost first think later", "Would you mind me explaining what you mean by causing trouble for the bar? Others have mentioned Muslim authorities and I wonder what the legal elements are and who in particular they apply to in Malaysia? (Not from Malaysia so please excuse my ignorance, just interested!)", "It's an eyes wide shut known vibe here where Islam in Malaysia is treated like a very fragile, brittle religion that requires non-Muslims to walk on eggshells to accommodate it at all costs. Ironically this sentiment isn't reciprocated or upheld when it comes to the other way around but I digress...\nBasically, any form of activity/speech/manufactured circumstance that presents itself (be it direct or indirectly) as a dichotomy to Islamic beliefs — will generate social and legal repercussions to all parties involved.\nSo having a Muslim person existing within alcohol(haram) serving establishment/area, is blasphemous by backdoor unofficial/official regulations enforced by the court of public opinion, religious authorities and sometimes entangling with law enforcement too.\nThe hypocrisy is in that while often the participant(Muslim person) may bear the brunt of religious-policing, the other party is somewhat held culpable or even wholly responsible for seemingly \"influencing\" or \"entrapping\" a Muslim and challenging their \"faith\". Hence the onus often falls on non-muslims to basically exercise caution at their own sheer inconvenience in order to mitigate risks that would likely cost them their hard earned business licenses, profits, unjustified hefty fines/penalties and more.\nThat's why in the context of OPs post, many commenters have recommended that OP kindly exercise some discretion and self awareness given the volatile climate of this country's radical islamic movement, so as to not cause inconvenience and 'trouble' for the bar/owner.\nEdit: included context", "I'm not Muslim, but from what I know they have a different set of Islamic laws applied to them pertaining to certain aspects of life. This includes but may not be limited to marriage, inheritance, sexual activities, fasting, etc. JAIS (Jabatan Agama Islam Selangor, transliterated as Selangor Islamic Religious Department. I'm aware it says \"Selangor\", there could be equivalents for other states but I'm not sure) are sort of the \"police\" equivalent (the authorities everyone's saying) who enforce these laws on the street, ie. if reported, they can investigate and arrest a Muslim if caught eating during fasting month, or arrest a couple for premarital sex, and they will be dealt with according the relevant Islamic laws and if needed in a Syariah Court which is different from your common courts. Rest assure that as a non-Muslim including foreigners, these laws and situations will not be applicable to you (sidenote: which is why there was a huge pushback against some politician's populist-driven suggestions to apply these laws to everyone, but that's another story).\ncausing trouble for the bar?\nWith the common knowledge above that all Malaysians should know regardless of one's race (if they say they don't know, they're ignorant or feigning it), the bar could be accused of complicitly serving (aka assisting) the customer in performing a sinful act (drinking alcohol in this case). I don't think it's technically possible to charge the bar attendant or owner, but still the damage would've been done by then especially with the viral-crazy herds we have these days. When this happens, overt racism will rear its ugly head again. This is the trouble we want to avoid, and some politicians with more extremist Islamic views like I mentioned earlier will use this stick to beat for his agenda. Do bear in mind that this type of \"trouble\" is generally a bit more prevalent in the Peninsular than East Malaysia. Also bear in mind that not all Malays/Muslims agree with everything these Islamic laws try to enforce.\nThis is as much as I understand, I hope it gives you a better understanding. If you need more details, I'd suggest to Google it. Be aware that not even all Muslims will be able to explain the entire law accurately to you either, which isn't their fault - if everyone can explain the law to a T, we wouldn't need lawyers to represent us.\n*Source: I mix around with Malays since young and dated some. Trust me! ...but jokes aside, I tried to be as accurate and balanced as possible with what I've learned from them.\nEdit: I saw the other reply to you around the same time as me. That one's a bit more emotively driven, I'd suggest you understand the facts I presented first as your foundational knowledge before diving into the emotional aspects of it.", "Thanks for the explanation! That's really insightful and seems very balanced. I'm not here to judge anyone at all, just learn", "Sure, no problem. I don't believe my feelings are too different from the other fella tbh, but I've had practice explaining to foreigners so I understand the importance to provide a wider factual context first and not just dive into the emotive anecdotes immediately. Unless you behave poorly like a privileged tourist (something like the 1975 band did), rest assure you will not be affected when or if you visit Malaysia.", "Depending on the bar, they may actually deny entry - especially if there are signages that say \"no under 21/Muslims\". Nothing personal, the bar just needs to keep itself safe by following the laws.\nBut yeah, most bars don't do ID checks if you look right AKA old enough, have no Muslim identifiers.", "As a non-muslim, I don't personally care if a muslim drinks non-alcoholic drinks in a bar.\nMy problem is the bar might get in trouble from the muslim authorities. What if they shutdown the bar?", "I don't care if they drink alcohol in a bar either.\nNone my business what they do.\nhttps://i.imgur.com/WoD5h9W.jpeg", "more Malaysians need to think this way, but not many will agree with me on that", "Sarawak is the place", "Agreed and additional, is dangerous for you. Other extremist might take a picture of you and viral. For the bar owner might worry to serve you because they might have trouble too.\nRecently after Coldplay and Palestine war started, Malaysian extremist become so active 😅\nMy advice: just do outside malaysia then should be safe even your heart is good and clean 👍🏻", "This. My Sikh friend has been telling me that I can go to their temple and get free food. She said they would love that. But as a Malay, I don't want to put them in that position where other people may accuse them of trying to convert me. So while I appreciate the invitation, for everyone's sake, I'd rather not go.", "Sikhs are famous for providing food for everyone with no pressure to convert though.. But yeah I get your point with the pas crowd.", "What happens if a Muslim girl gets converted? Just curious", "I've heard Hadi Awang will personally drown a kitten every time it happens.", "In Malaysia, she will get many threat, or might get kill threat. But laws wouldn't allow them to be killed. Will get harashed and many more hellist experience while she proceed with converting her in the system. Of course our system would not simply allow thay, they will just send her to concentrated camp like,for caunseling. Repeated until she give up, or migrate to other country which allow muslim to convert,like Australia.", "Some shitty people will start to accuse the Sikhs trying to convert her secara HALUS...", "This is so sad :(", "depends where u are…my hometown i’ve seen tudung family eat in a china steamboat restaurant…they just don’t take pork, no one really cares", "This. Jangan menyusahkan orang lain. Don't put other people in a position where they have to halau you because they might get in trouble otherwise.", "So true. 10/10 review.", "Can a non muslim girl wear tudung and chill in a bar.. Asking for a friend", "Why would a non Muslim wear tudung? Just to stir up trouble?", "Is tudung exclusive to muslim only?", "I'm not aware of anyone else wearing one. Please educate me if I'm wrong.", "Christian nuns cover their hair", "", "It's fun poking at people religious sensitivity", "And that's my point. If you're doing it just to stir up trouble or make prior feel uncomfortable, you're an AH. If you're doing it to prove a valid point or something, or you're willing to be the guinea pig to challenge certain unjust laws, then more power to you.", "cut to someone with very fancy ballroom hairdo with a couple hours to chill and wearing a scarf to protect their hair", "That's not a tudung.", "a tudung would spoil any kind of hairdo LOL", "That was probably a guy who has no idea how to take care of fancy hairdos. Frankly, I am one too, so can't laugh at him too much.", "Agree, please don’t give PAS another stupid reason to kutuk us the non Bumi.", "I highly doubt the bar owner and management wouldn't mind. Most likely they'll quote some \"dress code\" and deny her entry.\nI know a Muslim who works in an American restaurant chain in Malaysia who cannot fast during Ramadan due to his medical condition. The restaurant management won't let him eat during work in the restaurant, and he had to eat hidden from sight.", "Maybe your judgement is based on your experience but I have to disagree. When I asked my muslim friends they said as long as the girl is seen with non-muslim, no one will be bothered. If only with muslim friends, people might be puzzled but no one would care to go and chat with the girl or the owner", "You forget this is Malaysia?", "Too ‘woke’ that he forgot about the nature of the country he’s living in.", "We don't do that here , she alone is going to get the bar shut down and the owner arrested", "I feel like you haven’t fully understood how Malaysia mindset works. Not only does the bar get in trouble but it’ll go viral till the politician use it as a weapon.\nFor instance, consider a case like a couple of months ago where a Buddhist temple organized a concert featuring Thai ladies dancing. It turned out that some Muslim individuals attended the event too. Consequently, the organizers became the subject of investigation for allowing Muslims to participate. The ones are getting blame are the nons. I can’t find source but it’s only a few month je\nOf course non of us cares, but certain people does", "You forgot that in Malaysia, religion rules over everything? If she gets caught inside the bar, not only will she get into trouble, but the bar itself will be in danger from authorities", "Probably won't even happen in a million years in Msia lol" ], [ "Dont do it please. Kesian the owner.", "agree", "totally agree" ], [ "Honestly the establishment might just stop them from entering. It's asking for trouble really." ], [ "Don't know can or not, but definitely recommend against it.\nMuslims at a pork-free restaurant that serves alcohol is still tolerable. But an actual dark bar with dancing would be too sus.\nNon-Malays won't actually care, but the bar owner might turn you away as the social repurcussions are really high. Potential for harassment by JAIS & police, Alcohol/food license revoked.\nIf you want to come, please come free-hair and no baju kurung 😂 Pants and t shirt is fine. Try to fit in and don't stand out.", "I agree!", "It's funny how alcohol is seen as slightly better than pork but both are equally as bad for muslims.", "Same like ciggies.", "Alcohol is worse actually" ], [ "Recently a Muslim girl with tudung came to visit our church. While we generally don’t mind anyone visiting, we are still very cautious because the social repercussions may be huge and we may be accused of proselytising to a Muslim, which is actually a Federal crime in Malaysia that carries a prison sentence and caning.\nNot to mention potentially being abducted by authorities without ever seeing the light of day.\nSo my two cents is to just leave these places alone and hang out elsewhere.", "In which state is your church?\nTaking experience from Penang, it is not uncommon for tudung individuals to enter church, temples etc. Cross visitation between people of faith is encouraged getting to know each other. This experience is not limited to those famous and open for tourist mosque/church/temple alone.", "Selangor. At the height of Christian-phobia amongst Muslim, someone threw a fake grenade through the glass window at my church", "I'm sorry to hear about the grenade incident. When was this? I mean, during what kind of period/season? Was it triggered by any external occasion/event happening in the area or around the world?\nAnd, back to the issue mentioned in your first comment: did you, the community or the priest engage with the tudung individual to ask about her visit?\nI've heard a lot in the past (now also got a lot la) that church, temples etc doing charity, donation etc and they don't exclude people of other faith if they too come to their door for help. Maybe the tudung individual came to seek help, or maybe for research and study or maybe visits. Or any other reason, kan. Maybe approach her....that could be a chance to get to know each other better.\nOf course there is a chance \"someone\" is watching and waiting to report y'all or she's a bigot etc. But hey, there's fatter chances she's none of those at all. Everything is just a possibility, until you ask the visitor what she's doing there.", "I attended a christening at the Assumption Church in PJ. Years back, the church was accused of holding services for Malay converts. The \"Malays\" turned out to be the sizable Chindian and Portuguese Eurasian members of the congregation.\nThe more we live in our individual silos, the more misconceptions we engender ." ], [ "Unless you’re in the 1%, take off your tudung. Malaysia is notorious for blaming the Muslims fall to temptations, on non Muslims.", "Bad advice @ taking off tudung\nI second someone saying wear a hat, beanie, hoodie or modified fashion-y headscarf in lieu", "The way Muslims treat their religion like some video game will always amuse me.\nYou're going to a bar to drink alcohol (-heaven score) but don't worry, at least you're covering your hair!!!! (+++heaven score), OH NO, you forgot to cover your ankles (----heaven score)", "Your flair checks out I suppose. If you think everybody goes to a bar to drink, even non-Muslims, you should step out of your tempurung once in a while. I have non-Muslim friends who drink and those who don’t drink. Unlike some people, those of us who are teetotal don’t kick up a fuss about it and just order a soda or mocktail. But you do you la", "so you wants us to be crazy such as if someone did a single bad thing we going to say to him it's over for you you going to hell or what ?\nidk how y'all wants us to be crazy.\nin islam, if do a sin doesn't mean you're going to hell, you ask allah for forgiveness, it's okay to do sins as long as you ask allah for forgiveness and while admiting what you did is wrong, there's no such thing as perfect muslim", "it's okay to do sins as long as you ask Allah for forgiveness\nI think you're talking about taubat. It's still not okay if you just keep repeating the sin. Your forgiveness won't be counted tho", "brother i said while admiting what you did is wrong, if you keep doing the same sins you're not admiting anything admiting isn't by action. but by the heart allah knows if you actually feels ashamed about your sins or not.", "take off tudung and go to the bar\nask for forgiveness\nrepeat", "admiting isn't by action but by the heart, allah knows whether we actually feels guilty about our sins or not\n﴿١٠٣﴾ قُلْ هَلْ نُنَبِّئُكُمْ بِالْأَخْسَرِينَ أَعْمَالًا\n103. Say, “Shall we inform you about the worst losers' actions?”\n﴿١٠٤﴾ الَّذِينَ ضَلَّ سَعْيُهُمْ فِي الْحَيَاةِ الدُّنْيَا وَهُمْ يَحْسَبُونَ أَنَّهُمْ يُحْسِنُونَ صُنْعًا\n104. “Those whose efforts in this world are misguided, while they assume that they are virtuous in their works.”\nyou only fooling your self with your logic", "if she insist to wear the tudung, it would be so much trouble to the owner if she is seen by some extremist.\nngl, at this sensitive moment, this shit might just cause the shop to bankrupt", "Ok then, I’ll minus the fashion-y headscarf thing. But my other suggestions remain, and as a Malay-Muslim hijabi, wearing a bucket hat or beanie has not given me or the establishments any problems. There are literally nons who wear the same thing so it’s just about blending in.\nPeople have to be smart about it idk like some of us have non-Muslim friends who drink, and we can order non-alcoholic drinks for ourselves, but the comments are filled with wannabe Taliban moral purity police talking about hypocrisy\nThat being said I agree with your point on how wearing a literal hijab or obvious headscarf could land the owner and establishment in trouble with the authorities, and it’s just not worth it. I feel like today’s viral climate is even worse than say a decade ago, and even then they would not allow literal hijabis to enter bars and clubs (a no-brainer really)." ], [ "It would fuck up the bar owner's life, and also provide ammo to extremists to blame everything on alcohol + nons. So unless that's your goal, please don't." ], [ "Technically you can but better not do it. Let’s not cause another innocent establishment to close just because of some Muslim customers trying to be cool." ], [ "Lets not have another case of crackhouse comedy club." ], [ "Unfortunately most bar owners will not take the risk of having someone with a tudung in, even though the person is not drinking. It's too much risk if word got out and people take it out of context. Authorities might raid the place, license might get revoked, establishment might even be closed if the situation is high profile enough like if it gets viralled or something" ], [ "Zealots have been screaming Armageddon seeing tudung girls in anime fair, what more a bar." ], [ "Well nothing's stopping anyone from entering but it will attract some stares and weird looks. Worst-case scenario would be if some religious zealot or bbnu \"influencer\" records you and posts their face on TikTok/IG. And from other reddiors yeah you might get the owner in trouble.\nIf you/they really want to go then go without one. If they're really uncomfortable being freehair maybe wear a hoodie? Not the same but better than free hair.", "Or not go at all. Just adding one more option." ], [ "tak boleh. bouncer tak kasi masuk. kalau buka dapat. melainkan kau Neelofa.", "Itupun nasib kaya ja, kalau tak, dah mampus kena sembur. Banyak orang mengamuk kut when she did it.", "Pub mana ada bouncer", "Bouncer tu apa?" ], [ "I can tell you right now with 100% certainty, we nons do not give a flying fuck who you are or where you're from.\nWe are however, scared of the authorities coming here fucking us up for serving you guys.\nWe would love to drink and chill with you all, but this country's policy makes that impossible. Sorry.\nEspecially when people are so radicalized now. So if you're denied entry, please remember it's not you we're denying, we simply do not want trouble.", "If you are denied entry, please complain to the authority for the situation they created. Don't blame the pubs or non-muslim. Maybe it will make a change if enough people do so." ], [ "Really depends on the type of establishment. If it's a Chilli's or TGIF type of restaurant, which also has a bar that serves alcohol, then it's perfectly fine. You can even sit at the bar counter. If it's a pub like Sid's, Healy Mac's, etc, which also serves food, it's still ok - there's nothing that says you can't have a meal there. Things start to get fuzzy when it's a drinking place where people really go just for drinks and not food, even more so if it's non-halal. While it's not illegal, bar owners may stop you from entering to avoid trouble from the authorities, and there are holier-than-thou idiots out there who are just waiting to add to their list of \"see who I caught being naughty today\". Stick to the first two to be safe." ], [ "By doing so, I'm confident the owner will face a heavy punishment or be forced to close his business." ], [ "I’ve been to a bar in bangsar with a multiracial group of friends but 2 of them wears tudung. We were not let in." ], [ "Legally, you can.\nEthically, morally, religiously - you shouldn't.\nThe bar owner also has the right to block you from entering." ], [ "So the short answer is technically yes. Because the act of visiting a bar is not explicitly illegal to Muslims in Malaysia, rather the act of consuming alcohol is.\nHowever, it is not advisable. It’s fine if it’s a bistro or restaurant-bar that serves food or even shisha as well, but a straight up bar would not be a good idea. It’s just asking for trouble la, cuz if the wrong person passes by, they’re gonna report or investigate further, which is just not something you want to deal with.\nAnother thing to consider, at any club/bar place where there’s a bouncer out front, they might outright reject you from entering, just because they don’t want the trouble of dealing with the authorities." ], [ "No. Kalau dia dapat masuk memang akan stand out, sekarang dahla zaman viral. Kang kene serbu bar tu.\nKalau dia curious, tengok kat Tik Tok camna environment bar. Tak pun tanya member. Suka tak suka, tudung melambangkan maruah perempuan Muslim. Obvious la dia practicing Muslim, kenapa nak masuk bar? Nak seronok ada banyak lagi cara baik." ], [ "Don't know why this sub was recommended since I'm not Malaysian, but it seems so insane and backwards that you're not just free to do whatever you want. Why do religious people care about what others do - just live your own life and stop bothering others who live a different lifestyle than you.", "Because in Malaysia there is no dividing line between religion and politics. And therefore religion (specifically Islam) is politicised by strongman politicians to gain popularity. Which results in a mob-hunt mentality among those who consider themselves the most pious.", "To me, it's so strange to me to build an entire law around a book that was written thousands of years ago instead of modern logic. Whether you believe in one or the other or don't believe in any religion, you should be treated the same.\nWould you say that there's a Malay privilege in Malaysia (as opposed to being eg. Chinese), or is life even harder for them with all the norms they have to live up to?", "Don't blame us normal citizens. Blame the government and islamic authorities.\nAs a non-muslim, I don't care what muslims do. They can drink beer in front of me. I don't mind. The fear is the government would blame us non-muslims for influencing the muslims to be unislamic.", "Totally, I'm sorry to come across as hostile. Didn't mean to blame anyone. I just could not imagine someone approaching me for something I'm doing that does not affect them in any way. I feel really bad for people who don't feel empowered to make their own life choices due to a social construct outside of their control.", "For some reason these things only happen in islamic nations, all the arab states and Indonesia and Malaysia. Not sure why islamic states have to be somewhat theocratic in some way, while Christian states are not as strict and generally do not practice much theocracy", "I'm pretty sure in the 1900s-1930s Christian states also did the same thing like what the authorities do now. Times got on and the culture shifted, and its no longer acceptable to do that anymore.\nWe will have to wait until the current/future generation of Malays who are brave enough to call bullshit on the face of the authority and repell against the extremist culture, then the culture will shift.", "That's our life in Malaysia unfortunately.", "It's turning into a nanny state." ], [ "Used to see young women enter bars in KL in a Tudung. Go into toilet and emerge in a miniskirt and tank top. No one cared." ], [ "Fact: The roof club in lot 10 last time berlambak Malays from high so / anak dato, hang out n drink …. Just to party n have fun …. Chill lar … 1 Malaysia ma", "Najib jailed d, no more zaman 1Malaysia. Now is Madani, aggressively catered to the Malay to win back some support from heavily supported PAS." ], [ "Don’t do it. Don’t be selfish. You nak masuk konon “curious” you’ll cost the jobs of many. Nak masuk buat cara nak masuk.", "How is that? Kena viral?", "Viral is one point. Viral = Totok Malay go and make it Political. Political Totok make it even more Political. Affecting next GE. Affecting Entertainment Regulations.\nReport = Polis / JAIS / State go Investigate the Premise. Owner kena saman = Money issue. Legality issue. Club gets suspended 2 weeks = No income. DJ, Bartenders mau makan apa?\nCommon sense.", "Damn, so easy to make a place goes bankrupt", "Yeah but for them la this common sense takde. I went to SIX in 2020 (Early - January) a bunch of Malay kids want to enter the place. The bouncer who is also Malay told the 3 Malay girls. “Scarf tak boleh, abang bagi masuk abang hilang kerja dik. Tolong lah faham” (they’re going to fight the bouncer). All of them wear tudung nak masuk SIX apa buto punya pemikiran la." ], [ "No go away." ], [ "Don’t make trouble to the owner. Chill at home with Netflix and chill. Entertainment is haram", "Then netflix is haram?\n/s", "No Netflix is halal. Just the “chill” is haram. Muslim have no chill. /s", "Don't you know? Television in general is haramful.\n:P\nI'll go stand in the corner now. lol.", "Depending on which state I guess.", "Technically yes. If you go by the strictest definition, even manga is haram. Our ustaz still go by the strictest definition if you ask them this question but also adds the clause, \"if it's not distracting, it's permissible.\" So if watching netflix causes you to pray late, then it's haram, according to them." ], [ "You may not wish to consume alcohol but who would believe you ? Bring along an alcohol test kit just in case." ], [ "Avoid. If happy hour with friends, go to your nearest Mamak stall drink Teh Tarik and eat Roti Canai. You don’t have to worry about curfew if all are adults." ], [ "I'm a bar/pub musician and from my experience, some managers or bouncers may not let them in. Its not illegal if im not mistaken, but they stop them because it tends to raise the risk or future raids or even JAKIM investigations. Some people might spread the word and the power of word of mouth is pretty strong in the bar/pub scene. I personally have no issue with it whatsoever but to be fair it may jeopardize my music gigs if the bar gets shut down. Us Malaysians like to make an issue of everything haha. So yeah, worst case scenario you won't get let in and you may get some weird looks. Also depends on what kind of bar it is or if there's a duit kopi thing going on between the bar and the relevant authorities iykyk. For me, the more crowd the better, no matter race, religion or background. <3", "One of the few comments here that actually matter thank youuu" ], [ "As someone who works in a food and beverage industry I can say it does bring some attention. Staffs would be concerned because usually when Malay people enters a non halal establishments we would fear it brings complications. The same goes for vegan and vegetarians whenever they enter a non vegetarian/vegan establishment. Back for the Muslims part I work in a Chinese Restaurant so we rarely get Malay customers but when we do most are very considerate and only have a few remarks. However it still brings concern as the most Muslims that enter our establishment are inspectors or government officers checking somethings.\nHowever if you do still decide to attend I'd suggest you to not wear a tudung while inside to avoid unnecessary attention or views from others, as long as you're prepared that you are entering a establishment that serves alcohol and pork but you know how to avoid them it should be fine. There may be some staffs that just gives you the bad looks and such but I'd say most younger staffs don't mind as much as old timers do. Although my comment may have some discrimination in it I am just voicing out my experiences that I've gathered from customers and co-workers.\nAlso in short it's like a cowboy movie where some dude walks in and the whole bar gives him the you don't belong here look. If any trouble comes up, just pay and leave." ], [ "Do turtleneck+oversized hoodie or don't at all. it's not the bar's fault, so don't make problems just because." ], [ "Why would she? Testing the boundaries?" ], [ "If I was a bar owner, I wouldn’t let a muslim to entry as I wouldn’t want to get a trouble. But, if it‘s in Germany or Australia, no one will care about it whether you are muslim or non-muslim." ], [ "Entering is fine, the eye opener would be drinking alcohol in the bar\nAlthough it will make the other Muslims who are drinking, a tad uncomfortable" ], [ "Later u see Pas wants to cancel Bar. Better dont." ], [ "I've seen a few at DPC , even having drinks, one even pet my dog." ], [ "I’ve seen one at five star hotel bar. Nobody gave a shit as far as I can tell. Then again, you can get away with many blasphemous stuff in a five star hotel in KL. So I’d choose the location carefully OP." ], [ "She could but wouldn't recommend that, it would cause trouble to the owner in the long run." ], [ "you are asking to be viral (in a bad way) pulling off that stunt 💀" ], [ "have you forgotten about the Crackhouse Comedy Club's closure?\nCrazy minah goes on a atheist rant, and uploads video to the internet. Religious authorities came down hard on the club and girl like the spanish inquisition." ], [ "People gonna tot girl is one of the penguatkuasa.." ], [ "You have to fear your own people, we generally don't care, even better because it look even diverse and peace" ], [ "Let me answer your question with a story;\nA girl with white clothes comes to a barn. She carefully tiptoe all the poops from the animal farm. Not even a poopstain smears upon her clothes. When she come back to her home, her mother scold \"You smell awful. Why the heck would you went to that place, if you wore that clothes?\"." ], [ "It's not illegal but the bar/club owner might not want a Muslim there. It's like asking for troubles.\nThe extremists will somehow find excuses to cause big hoo-ha.\nIf it's a bar, I doubt the food will be halal anyway. You can't really order food.\nIf you're ordering drinks, the extremists will probably say the gelas have had alcoholic drinks in them before, and probably not washed correctly according to the religion.\nIn case you have not come across the video by a UK-based Malaysian student who also happens to be on tiktok, go look it up. Long story short, dia ni complain ini bukan budaya Malaysians. You'll get an idea" ], [ "from the muslim perspective, I believe you CAN enter. Technically as I understand our faith, if you yourself don't drink or eat non-halal food there, or serve it (including passing it to others even if you don't work there) or (depending on varying scholarly opinions) sit at the same table as someone who does, its ok.\nI don't know why you would want to tho... bars are generally where people relax and have fun by becoming slightly or incredibly intoxicated. that is their right to do so, but if you want to go in a bar and NOT drink... might as well go to some other random makan place what? Its fun for the ones who drink but for those who don't drink at all... meh... Seems to be on par with going to the cinema, buying a ticket, go in and then NOT watch the movie; or joining a netball team when you have no intention of playing netball at all.\nIf you're curious because you've never seen a bar from the inside, then blend in, don't stand out. look like you belong - I think already got some comments about hoodies / beanies and the like. in this way you get the best experience. In this case, I would suggest a \"tour guide' of sorts. Someone (or better still, a group of someones) who know their way around and who understands you, and since you're a girl, someone who would be able to take care of you just in case it is needed. Be aware that \"going out drinking\" may have certain etiquette, for example if you're in a group, someone buys the first round, somebody else gets the second etc. Actually I have no idea what the etiquette would be if you don't drink and you don't want to drink and cannot buy others any drinks either.\nAlso, there are all sorts of different kinds of bars, and its different kinds of people who go there as well. The laws governing them may be different too. There are sports bars, where people go to watch a favourite sport while having a few beers, in Malaysia usually soccer. There are bars where people go to relax, have happy hour after work before going home. Some bars have a more senior clientele, as in, retirees or that age, while others are mostly young people. Some bars have live band, or some kind of entertainment you can watch on a stage, pool tables... Some combine this with dancing, dj's, some don't. Some bars are more like restaurants or cafe's in the daylight hours but morph into something else as the evening progresses.\nIn conclusion, if its just curiosity, I don't see how it could be worth the effort. No single human being can or should experience everything and know about everything anyway. Life is short. Do things that would benefit you or add value to your life." ], [ "Here is a scenario with sample venues:\nSouled Out: OKAY Healy Mac's: MAYBE OKAY Zouk: NOT OKAY\nIdk any better way to put this.", "Isn't zouk a nightclub?", "Its more like a spectrum of places that serve alcohol", "Bars leave a little more room for ambiguity, but clubs are an obvious no-no, and people should learn discernment" ], [ "damn is Malaysia this crazy? in urban Indonesia this wouldn't be a problem since people wouldn't care" ], [ "It really depends on the location & setting. I'm Chinese & have gone for happy hour drinks with my Malay colleagues (they didn't drink just came to hang out) around Changkat and had no issues. But I'm sure cops could make their life difficult if they wanted to." ], [ "No cannot. Actually muslim cannot be in a place where it serve beer or anything in that group https://muftiwp.gov.my/ms/artikel/irsyad-fatwa/irsyad-fatwa-umum/2384-irsyad-al-fatwa-siri-ke-222-hukum-duduk-di-dalam-majlis-yang-dihidang-arak-padanya" ], [ "Well muslims cant even get in a place that serves alcohol in the first place. Its haram. Even if they not take/drinks the alcohol(my muslims friend told/enlighten me about it before). Well rather, what are you planning to do in the club anyway? If its just for the sake of having fun, then there are many more place to have fun too tbh. Places that are more “muslims-friendly”.", "These people better not eat at Chili’s then, but I tgk ramai je orang Islam makan kat situ padahal terang2 jual arak. Somehow only Malay-Muslim hijabis are subjected to extreme moral purity and I’m so sick of it" ], [ "If you want an answer based on Islamic rulings, wear a tudung or not, man or woman, any Muslim cannot enter a bar where it serves alcoholic drink. Whether they drink or not that's not the main issue. The place itself is forbidden for Muslims to enter it." ], [ "I’ve seen many many Malay people at bars all around KV area, but I haven’t seen ones with tudung tbh. Like other people said it might cause undue scrutiny to be applied to the bar owner if someone were to report.\nIf you want to go unfortunately you might have to leave the tudung behind.\nEdit: so disappointed at some of the comments here. Don’t have to insult OP if you have no advice to give. Just move on. No wonder people say this sub is so racist. I’m not even Malay or Muslim but you guys just give this sub a bad name.", "Who insulted? Most comments are polite.", "Probably downvoted, and one that I specifically called out has deleted their comment." ], [ "It will definitely attract the stares of religious extremists, but non Muslims and non extremists wouldn't mind." ], [ "Just bukak your hijab for this. I’m a Muslim girl too. The hijab represent your pious ness, going to a bar to hang out is not the activity that represent Islam.\nI know that nowadays girls mostly wear for cultural obligation, I get it as I am one too. But that does not negate on the main objective of hijab. So u can go to a bar, just don’t represent Islam while you doing it .", "Hey, thanks a lot for your insight. I really appreciate it😊", "Don’t listen to that girl idc if she says she’s Muslim. Wear a hat or beanie at least. Or a hoodie. Thats what I do when going to bars or clubs. I don’t understand going to extremes with it. No need to sacrifice aurat things if uncomfy lol\nHoly shit the fucking downvotes. Taliban simps or what", "Life’s hard being a Malay Muslim, this and that xboleh buat. If you care about “aurat” don’t go doing things that may jeopardise it.\nBest if you stay in your lane. Some things are not meant to be done in Malaysia.", "Stay in your lane kepala bapak kau la, I’m a Malay-Muslim Malaysian girl myself and have gone to bars and clubs wearing hats and beanies in Malaysia. That’s why I know it worked. I didn’t make my comment pakai kepala lutut. Lain kali kalau tak tau pasal orang, jangan buat andaian sendiri\nFucking Taliban wannabes in the downvotes I see you. If you’re men you have no real stake in the convo and your opinions are irrelevant", "I didn’t say it didn’t worked bruv.\nI mean isn’t it the biggest Hypocrisy? You care about aurat but you’re doing things that pious people shouldn’t be doing.\nSo you’re doing it based on your curiosity or your own enrichment? No matter how I put it, it sounds very hypocritical..\nIt’s either you care about aurat or don’t care at all, takkan care abit and don’t care when it’s convenient", "Extremist thinking - some of us have friends who drink and we have brains to remember that we can order sodas or mocktails. And this isn’t a theocratic country so I don’t understand the aurat police and the obsession with religious moral purity. Plus if you’re a man please stfu about women’s aurat", "Bukan nak kecam. Hanya nak state the facts.\nEither you’re left or right je. Bukan nak paksa pape", "No offense, but aren't you also being an \"aurat police\" by telling the OP not to listen to others advicing her to buka tudung? If you truly believe that religious policing is wrong, you shouldn't be advicing OP to \"not sacrifice her aurat\".\nIf you dont want others to police you, you shouldn't police others either.", "Nobody is being an “aurat” police ffs gurl.. I’m just saying it’s either you care about your aurat then stay at home be a good Muslimah.\nIf not, go full without headscarf, like the nons. Nobody gives a shit what you do. But stop being a hypocrite. You wanna sin but still care enough about your “aurat” to wear a beanie or a winter scarf.\nYou a joke?", "If you care about aurat n stuff, why go to a place like bar? Just stay at home la.", "Extremist thinking - some of us have friends who drink and we have brains to remember that we can order sodas or mocktails", "Your PAS supporter people is the one who is extremist. Open your eyes big big n see what's happening. The fact you wear tudung n go to bar can get the bar owner to lose business,license revoked n shut down. This isnt extremism? You dont even know what is real extremism. All you do is feign (or real) ignorance and ended up menyusahkan orang only. Think", "Did you even read my comment? I said the onus is on hijabis to adapt to the establishment’s environment, and wearing a bucket hat or a beanie renders us indistinguishable from non-hijabis or non-Muslim women. But obviously, and this really shouldn’t need to be said, no one should be waltzing into a bar or a club with an actual unambiguous hijab or religious head covering (because not only Muslim women wear head coverings). There are ways to go about covering one’s aurat without putting non-Muslim owners into trouble or having to terus togel and freehair. Of COURSE I would want hijabis to guna otak and not jeopardise the establishment’s owner and staff. How stupid do you think I am?\nAnother thing I have a problem with is the rigid policing of what hijabi Muslimahs do - not every hijabi is the ultimate paragon of Islamic virtue who doesn’t ever breathe the air of a nightlife joint let alone set foot into one. Idc if people call us hypocrites - some of us are more complex than everyone else makes us appear. Some of us are actually comfortable having non-Muslim friends who drink or even non-Muslim friends in general. This is what I meant by extremist thinking." ], [ "Duduk rumah masak saja Jangan menyusahkan bangsa lain" ], [ "On paper probably not a problem buuuuuut, logically that's asking to get judged and be taken action?\nWhat's up with the question though" ], [ "Technically can but not recommended. Memang cari nahas" ], [ "one hijabis launched her tudung at a bar\nhuhuhu" ], [ "Safe yes in East Malaysia." ], [ "Do a valak cosplay when going to a bar, technically it’s still a tudung. And you would scare people in the bar away, it will be easier for you to get seats there.", "🤣" ], [ "\"can\"\nIs that from a religious pov or a law pov?" ], [ "No." ], [ "Depends on the bar. I’ve seen many girls who wear tudung just chill at some of those atas bars. It’s clear they’re just temaning their friends. From a legal perspective, nothing wrong as well so long as they don’t serve you yourself alcohol. If you want can try styling it in a turban." ], [ "I’ve seen foreigners with hijab on enter bars and clubs but never malay muslim. I’d think it would be okay since they generally do sell non alcoholic drinks. But i think the bouncers will probably give you hard time during the entrance." ], [ "Are you Malaysian Muslim or foreigner Muslim? That makes quite a difference honestly" ], [ "Seen it on a few occassions. Mostly 5-star hotel bars.\nThey will come in a big group, with one or 2 of them in tudung, mostly to watch the live band. No idea what they were drinking though." ], [ "Sista gotta keep it halal in the street, haram in the sheet." ], [ "I tried bringing a friend to one at a bar in TTDI and she was denied entry. Then I went to a bar across it and they were fine. Tomato tomatoe?" ], [ "As someone who has had Muslim tudung wearing friends come with my group to a bar/club, I can say that most places won't allow it. They do not want to take the risk.\nOne place that allowed us, asked us to sit at the tables outside the bar.\nHowever, I've seen places like Merdekarya have tudung wearing patrons inside. So again, it depends on the establishment." ], [ "My colleague came hang out before in a bar. No one bat an eyelid. This is in changkat pre-Covid and she insisted to come." ], [ "I have seen it once at a bar in trec. It was a large group maybe 10 or 12, two or three girls with tudungs the rest without and a bunch of guys. They were just chilling having soft drinks and enjoying the live music which seems like the reason they came since their attention was focused on the stage vibing together with the live music. Nobody really cared or asked them to leave I only took notice because it was not a common sight.\nI am not giving you the green light as other commenters have raised a few issues but just sharing an experience to say that I have personally witnessed it before and they had no problems." ], [ "You will see many girls with tudung at Hard Rock..\nTo watch a performance.\nAny other bar.. I'm wondering, what are they there for?" ], [ "Just witnessed a waitress in hijab serving and pouring beers to guests at a wedding in Sabah. No one reacted negatively.", "Sabah and Sarawak is a whole different country than Peninsular. Anything goes and everything goes, nobody bats an eye.", "Well, technically states but I do agree. It’s not a problem at all, there was a post that went viral; a photo of a Muslim lady in hijab was a bridesmaid of her friend who is Christian, so it was inside the church." ], [ "E-slam really makes people go stupid. This thing also a big deal. No such thing as human rights in E-slam.\nBuka tudung masalah, pakai tudung masuk bar pun salah\nakhirnya diam2 je di rumah jangan tanya, jangan lawan, kerana muhammad itu selalu betul. 🤣🤣" ], [ "Generally we don't care but\nPls lah, non-muslim already have enough troubles already.\nDon't add more fire to it pls." ], [ "TGIF and Chili's allowed," ], [ "The only place I know where thats ok is Hard Rock cafe, seen plenty of girls with tudung there even though they serve alcohol and all." ], [ "Had experienced many times due to work cultures, we got to rooftop bar if it's not raining once a month to celebrate works. You might get a lot of stares, but nothing happen. After all, we were just drinking orange juice and eating some nachos.\nThere were bunch of us with our western colleagues too. And since it's high end bar, I don't think anyone care about it tbh.\nPs: It's a bar not disco/club" ], [ "can...at atas bars in 5 star hotels where there won't be raids lol" ], [ "Yes they can . I have done events and they have joined the table just that they don’t consume alcohol. They may drink fruits juices or ginger ale and eat some finger food" ], [ "I don’t represent the community but as a casual bar-goer I don’t really fuss on whoever regardless race or religion trying to patronize bars. However you’ve got to bear the potential consquences cause you’ll never know who’s gonna be the one to snitch on you, or whoever will try to create a fuss, turn the whole thing into viral stuff, at the same time tarnishing your reputation and expose yourself into innumerable criticisms. A lot of self-righteous posers trying to play a hero or virtue-signal on social media these days, hence at your own risk." ], [ "This just shows how intolerant the muzzies are in a higher income country like Malaysia is. I suggest you go with hijab and see how hypocritical and intolerant the male species of the majority rel1g1ón is in the country." ], [ "In general, whether a Muslim girl wearing a tudung can enter a bar depends on the specific policies of that particular place.\nMany bars are open to everyone, regardless of their background or religious beliefs. As long as she's comfortable with the environment and doesn't mind being around alcohol (even if she's not consuming it), she should be good to go.\nHowever, it's always a good idea to check with the specific bar beforehand, just to be sure. Some places might have certain rules or restrictions, so it's better to be in the know." ], [ "Rich malay aunties will go to bars w/ tudung..my friends fiance wore tudung twice to Prime club in KL a while back..no one paid it no mind. I'd imagine in more affordable areas it would be more scandalous though..we were in Suzie Wong when my friends mum and her friends came with two of then wearing tudung but only one drank.." ], [ "In Sarawak is no problem..... in KL, if place serves halal food can do so.... Souled Out does this, Malays can visit but I guess not join in late night drinking" ], [ "According to my non muslim friend, in kl cannot but in sabah can." ], [ "Yes, bars don’t stop women in tudung from going in, because sometimes you have staff or vendors who are in tudung coming t to premise during operation for work related matters. Sometimes there are patrons from the Middle East who come to just dance and not consume alcohol." ], [ "People dont pick and choose which sins you are commit. Why appear obey to god while openly show to all people you commit sins?. It preferably to avoid any speculation thus. Muslims who are religious should avoid bar." ], [ "HARAM. Kan Malaysia is a Muslim country. Any how. Most clubs have a lot of Malay inside. Lul." ], [ "Generally non muslim don really care, becuz most likely is your freedom.\nBut the shop owner might be, becuz your action might cause problem to operating." ], [ "Tanggalkan jelah tudung tu lmao" ], [ "Why do you want to go to bar?there are other place more suitable to hang out,coffee shop,mall. Generally better to avoid place with alcohol,being a Muslim." ], [ "Reading reply here is so sad....huhu but i think hard rock cafe might be plausible (couldn be wrong), and check merdekarya" ], [ "Safe to say the rest of the bar patrons wouldn't mind. The owner would worry though. Later Jakim raid lah, or someone would post a video viralling it and \"kecam\" it causing netizens to react and finally city council shows up to revoke the license and shut the bar down.....\nRemember that comedy club?" ], [ "Dude... Go hang out at Jalan Doraisamy and see for yourself." ], [ "In Malaysia, a bar will display that Muslims are not allowed to enter" ], [ "I would suggest against it, and yes it's haram cuz it can lead to fitnah when people see you entering a bar" ], [ "This is fcking around and asking for trouble.. but making the bar owner the scapegoat in the end" ], [ "<image>" ], [ "Bila tiada penyakit, kamu cari penyakit. Bila tiada masalah, kamu cari masalah." ], [ "Ask the tudung girl to go somewhere else...Why bother wearing a tudung at all if want to go to such places... There's a lots of better places to go...Uuuggghhh" ], [ "Why ? U dont scare jawi follow you ?" ], [ "Don’t so selfish la, even if you don’t get in trouble, the owner can close shop d" ], [ "Just buka tudung for a while if u really eager to go. Nobody gonna recognise u." ], [ "Only Muslim are that sensitive, maybe ask the muslims", "That's....what I'm doing(?) Unless you're implying there's absolutely zero Muslims lurking this sub" ], [ "I am neither a girl nor am I a Muslim, and am not religious, but I have always vehemently believed that your religion is your personal covenant and pact with your God. How you handle your business is up to you alone, as long as you're not negatively affecting or hurting anyone.\nI feel if you're reasonably dressed for the location and occasion, your religious taboos are for you to handle and not up for anyone else to get uppity about." ], [ "Wearing a cross in Muslim restaurant already such big news. Wearing tudung in a bar, you want to watch the world burn is it?" ], [ "Wtf is up with the comments...jfc" ], [ "cannot. you dont know what this cuntry is?" ], [ "Nelofar can" ], [ "Yes cause I seen it. She was with her friends and drank Coca Cola." ], [ "Nanti kena viral and that bar kena tarik lesen la, kena boikot la, kena kecam la" ], [ "In Sarawak, it’s so normal. Over here in KL, jarang lo. Ppl here are all radicalized already." ], [ "if you want genuine answer based on islamic and community views no. you're putting yourself in a position of fitnah. bringing bad image to the religion." ], [ "In civil law, nothing wrong. At 1 place in Sri Petaling,lot of foreign student wear hijab chilling at 1 bar I used to visit,I believe Arab student.They just do shisha and drink non alcoholic drink. I just chill with my cousin and even that bar serve pork, they just chillin and we don't care and mind our own business" ], [ "For your own safety, dont let the religious police sees you in such place." ], [ "Orang diet tak lepak mcd" ], [ "go hard rock" ], [ "Why not?" ], [ "can if you a Enforcement Officer. haha. joke aside.. better not la.. people will you with look of disbelieve. And you bring bad name to other muslim out there.." ], [ "People in the bar most likely won't care. But people outside looking at you or as you exit the bar, might go crazy. We are in Malaysia after all." ], [ "Why" ], [ "Go to ones outside of Malaysia. No one will judge. Its between u and God." ], [ "No. Hell no ." ], [ "Pub, it’s a pub. That said, I wouldn’t care, as a non. As long as I get her like water or whatever", "If anything, granted I’m the pub owner, regulars and I can cover her from authorities. Probably illegal but ethical imo" ], [ "Muslim kenot. If Wear tudung but not Muslim, make sure bring IC one. Or just wear whatever goth you want 🖤✌️" ], [ "Adoi, jangan buat hal. Polis trafik jaga jalan time solat jumaat pun sorok2 muka." ], [ "If you're the Muslim girl please don't, if it's your friend then ask your friend please don't.\nTrouble is always around the corner, don't go looking for it." ], [ "Definitely cannot. No pork ≠≠≠ Halal. Eating and drinking utensil used to served non Halal and alcohol must be 'purified' (sertu / samak) first before being reused. Better choose other safer places." ], [ "Have to define the meaning of a bar? Chili’s sells alcohol and has a bar, I’ve seen many head scarfed Muslim women eating there.\nI think it depends on what most people are doing there. If the majority are sat at tables and booths enjoying food then it’s probably okay.\nIf the masses are rowdy and drunkenly singing songs with a pint in their hand, probably not okay.", "Same goes for Souled Out too", "you mean Chilis = bar ????", "Again it depends on one’s definition of a bar. Chili’s is a restaurant and it has a bar where you can sit and order alcoholic beverages." ], [ "Had a casual team dinner at a bar in KL a few of my Muslim teammates joined (they all wear tudung). It was fine other patrons didn’t really care" ], [ "But Why Tho?" ], [ "Honestly, it's better for you to not wear tudung at all. No one cares really." ], [ "sigh. dress approximately saja lah. ini pon mau tanya? i swear some people act like they got no brain for thinking things through.", "THANK YOUUUU OMG the amount of people with no critical thinking" ], [ "You can.\nIf someone complains and then the place get raided, kesian la the others yang kat bar tu, they just wanna chill in peace." ], [ "why a muslim want to enter a place that's NON HALAL??!!" ], [ "They can enter a bar. They can’t enter a club\nI’ve seen many tudung in bars including some of my friends. Clubs will turn you down because of the potential backlash if ever they go viral" ], [ "In KL, If ur a Malay n going to a bar just don’t wear a tudung lar …. Unless if ur in Sarawak or Sabah ….\nMeanwhile if ur a Malay in London or Australia … u can do whatever u want … even do some shots ! Lol" ], [ "Dr Zul has explained regarding this if you want to know the ruling in term of syariah. Kindly read the full text by clicking the twitter link.\nSabda Rasulullah SAW: من كان يؤمن بالله واليوم الآخر فلا يجلس على مائدة يدار عليها الخمر\n\"Barangsiapa yang beriman kepada Allah dan Hari Akhirat, jangan DUDUK pada hidangan di mana arak dihidangkan.\"\nPub, disko, kelab malam itu muharramat al-maqasid. Jelas di situ tempat dihidangkan arak dengan bebas, termasuk pelbagai aktiviti yang mungkin tidak selari dengan adab Muslim.\nhttps://twitter.com/drzul_albakri/status/1729790753013199035\nSince you are a muslim, you might want to know this." ], [ "As a muslim, it’s best to avoid those places because you’re putting yourself in a situation of fitnah. Meaning people might see you wearing tudung and think wrongly and start accusing you. They also might tell other people that you drink and you go to the bar and even though it’s not true it’s better to just avoid those situations" ], [ "Yes. Me and tudung friend entered a bar before, just order soda. We followed some other colleagues for some after-event meeting. No harm." ], [ "Stay as far as you can from alcohol, even if you're not drinking it. May Allah bless you 💪" ], [ "If you just want to feel the atmosphere of a bar, go when there's an event. I remember reading my aunt's old celebrity gossip magazines where they had a meet and greet event at Zouk for newcomer celebrities and everyone who bought a ticket could buy. My aunt went to the event twice to take pictures with celebrities. It didn't offer alcohol and nothing haram about it. And according to her, there were loads of malay girls in hijab.\nThough if you ask some ustaz, they will still say it's haram because the same place is other times used for 'maksiat'. It's up to you, if you feel like you're not there to do maksiat, maybe it's okay for you. But regardless, going into a bar that sells alcohol in tudung is just asking for trouble." ], [ "Why cant?? Whats the problem?? As long as she not eat, drinks and doing haram things. Its fine..." ], [ "I’m getting pissed off at all the people who say “bukak je la tudung” like first of all, most of you making these comments aren’t even Malay-Muslim hijabis so why the fuck do you all think your opinions are relevant? You do realise how fucking insulting it is to treat Malay-Muslim hijabis like a monolith? Why aren’t we entitled to different experiences in life? Who the fuck are you all to dictate how we should live our lives?\nSome of us have non-Muslim friends who drink and non-Muslim friends who don’t drink, and if the former (or even latter!) want to hang out at a bar, shouldn’t teetotal Muslims use our brains a little and order a fucking soft drink or a mocktail? Why can’t we wear fucking hats or beanies or hoodies instead of missing out entirely on certain outings?\nI’m actually annoyed by how Malay-Muslim hijabis can’t seem to do anything right: adhere to the impossible moral purity standards and be called extreme; try to adapt to what is literally a common part of city life with diverse circles and be called hypocrites. Fuck you all who think you can speak over us, and yall better not be eating at fucking Chili’s or TGI Fridays if you’re gonna talk about hypocrisy and places that serve alcohol" ], [ "But why? If your going to a bar which serve alcohol drinks ( although u wont order 1 ) , why wear tudung at all? In fact might as well go all in , wear mini skirts , show half of your boobs n butts , at the least you wear an appropriate clothing into the appropriate area . Can you wear a bikini in a Bee farm? yes you can , but will you?" ], [ "Better jangan kak nanti masing² cakap itu la apa la lepak kedai mamak lagi best" ], [ "its not even worth it this is all dunia" ], [ "Don't pretend to be religious if you want to go a bar" ], [ "If she believes in the Qur'an, she cannot. If she's just a muslim by name and appearance, she can do whatever she wants." ], [ "I knew a malay girl that wore tudung, drank and openly hung out at bars and clubs, for years and nothing ever happened. Yells gotta chill", "Nothing ever happened, you forgot to add a ‘yet’ at the end", "Pessimistic BS" ], [ "Why would you put yourself somewhere yg boleh timbul persoalan lol\nYou don't even want to drink alcohol, go somewhere else lah haiya" ], [ "Why do you need to wear a tudong?\nIf it's for religious reasons then don't forget to obey the other parts of your religion too like do you always have a male to escort you around everywhere? Do you wear make-up, perfume, jeans, pluck your eyebrows? Do you listen to music, look at art that's not just plants, or watch tv? Do you hang out, work with, or study with any man that's not your family member? You can't just cherry pick the things you like and claim \"it's my religion\" because that makes you a giant hypocrite.\nIf you are wearing it because you think it's fashionable then that's objective and it requires you to be flexible and intelligent with your fashion sense. Given nearly all people in those bars will not be wearing a tudong then it's clearly not fashionable to wear one in those places." ], [ "There are some discussion regarding this few weeks ago. A muslim girl enter club just to feel vibe but doesnt drink or do anything shameful.\nBut, within the religion, it is haram. It’s like you normalize something sinful by being there.\nBut, if you ask on social aspect, i guess others already answer." ], [ "Oh my god the question......\nOk honestly, whatever you want to do, whatever u wanna drink, it's up to you. You do you. It's all about representing the image of a muslim by wearing hijab/tudung. By wearing tudung/hijab to a place where they alcohol are served in abundance compared to any other non alcoholic drink, you are basically inviting fitnah.\nThen again, you do you." ], [ "From what I was told, all muslim, tudung or without tudung, should not enter a place that serves alcoholic beverages even if there are non-alcoholic beverages sold there. Sitting at a table with people who are drinking alcoholic beverages is also not encouraged even though we didn't drink anything." ], [ "I think you guys commenting here, don’t know fuck about anything in your own country" ], [ "Can enter but will get sin. You can do whatever you want but sin is sin and will be written by angel on your deed book. The only thing that prohibit any woman with tudung entering bar is human law and liberals don't like that idea." ], [ "idk whats up with the comment section but honestly, yes you can. i frequent bars very often and although rare and maybe discouraged by the muslim community, the rest of us dont really care. i mean, we 'care' and we'll look because it's cool to see the multicultural diversity of malaysia. but if its a bar with live music and food and you're there to enjoy live music, food and non-alcoholic drinks with your friends, then who cares? most bars dont have bouncers anyway" ], [ "They can order an orange juice. If it wasnt allowed there would be signboards like in the massage shops." ], [ "Please don't, like others say, if spotted by religious fanatics you may end up on social media and getting judged by millions as a public trial.\nAlso getting trouble of the bars owner." ], [ "U do that u die today 🤣🤣" ], [ "No. You can't." ], [ "It’s better to avoid an establishment that serves alcohol" ], [ "no pls, it's not worthwhile" ], [ "If you're asking from a religious POV, then no, any and all Muslim are prohibited to enter any establishment that serves alcohol, pork, or any sort of over the top entertainment. Tudung or not, no Muslim is permitted to enter a bar even as a worker, let alone as customer.\nIf you're asking from a social POV, then I would also refrain her from entering as the consequences are dire. Not only will she tarnish her own image as a covered up Muslim amongst society, the owner could even get fine and could ended up as the next CCC. And that's just unfair to the owner." ], [ "This is uncalled for ! You should live up to your comments instead", "Yea a lot of racist comments here. If OP wants to go to a bar, let her, just give her advice. Don’t have to insult her. It’s good she wants to experience different aspects of the country.", "Oh damn what happened? What did he say lol", "If you really want to know, they basically asked you to stay home and just masturbate to Korean oppas. Talk about stereotyping.", "Yea she hasn’t been that’s why she’s asking. Don’t have to be a douchebag about it. Just tell her to leave the tudung. Instead you had to insult her and tell her to stay home and masturbate.", "Sure you did.\n<image>" ], [ "If u really truly muslim u never go such as bar drink alcohol place. I mean why would u do that" ], [ "Why would you ask this in this subreddit? Go find yourself an ustazah or an islamic scholar.", "Do you feel offended bro?" ], [ "Don't spread fitnah and avoid fitnah" ], [ "Some things are not worth being curious for the trouble it might cause you or others" ], [ "Bukaklah tudung tu aduhai" ], [ "Don’t disrespect her family or father" ], [ "If you don't care about what others think, then sure" ], [ "Wear a wig" ], [ "Can Anyone can enjoy as long as you dont drink alcohol there As long as you dont make out there" ], [ "just wear a wig... key point is cover hair right?" ], [ "Generally, there's no issue for Muslims to be at establishments that serve alcohol.\nBut in malaysia, the owners can get in trouble with authorities if people complain. But there shouldn't be an issue.\nYour faith is between you and God, and no one should stop you from going wherever you want on grounds of religion." ], [ "If you want to see what it is like but don't want to take off your tudung, you can do it in singapore or bangkok.\nDon't get the owner in trouble" ], [ "It’s not whether you can or cannot do, is what the consequences others will face if you choose to proceed.\nUsually we mind our own business but for other religions it seems the other way round." ], [ "People generally don’t care. I don’t care what you wear or don’t wear. Why are you having Muslim bias?" ], [ "There are a few bars that serve halal food. Like, they'll serve alcohol there but the food is halal certified. You just have to find those places la. They'll usually promote these places as makan places and not bar but the menu will silently have alcoholic beverages. As a hijabi i'm not sure how safe you'll be. People might secretly take videos of you and put on socmeds. Metropolitan cities like KL, Georgetown and JB will be safe. Kuching has a nice bar scene and it's generally safer than Semenanjung for Muslims there. Pro tip: Do your research before going to these places." ], [ "as a lurker from your neighbor, i just wanna say you can 100% wears tudung in a bar here, people will not bat an eye, and sometimes tudung people goes crazy too in the big cities" ], [ "Free country for the most part." ], [ "As always the general consensus seems to be other Muslims are the problem for your freedom." ], [ "Can\nIn Malaysia: Cannot" ], [ "Religion heavy based country, its advised not to do stunts like this otherwise wannabe ustaz/uztaza will put you in the news." ], [ "if u wanna go to bar, might as well don't wear tudung" ], [ "Seen plenty of tudung girls in bar. Some drink. Some don’t\nYou are adults so just do what you want" ], [ "I dont think they will be allowed to enter the premises." ], [ "In Malaysia? NO, someone will record you and will sell it to headlines in any platforms tiktok, Instagram, Facebook" ], [ "In indon ok not in malaysia" ], [ "It bar not masjid la aiyo" ], [ "Why not? Human can eat stones or wood without dying..doesn't mean you will do it because it doesn't taste good..pakai tudung can enter bar..does it look nice when those religious authority or other muslim see it? Definitely not" ], [ "Hindu Indian Malaysian can go to bar but don’t wear clothes dedicated for temple… Buddhist Chinese Malaysian can go to bar but don’t wear Buddhist monk robes… Christian Sabah and Sarawakian can go but not dressed up as priest and nuns… Muslim Malay can go to watch a band but don’t wear religious costumes…\nReligion and race is two different things.. You nak nampak cool as your race go ahead… tapi don’t malukan your religion… apa2 religion pun la… jangan campur religion Kat bar…" ], [ "Take off tudong." ], [ "Why would a muslim tudung girl want to enter bar anyway?" ] ]

[ "Politics" ]

[ [ "they claim that the content in it violated Malaysian laws\nWhat law did he violate?", "Sedition law lol. Anything just say seditious can already.", "@ akta sakit hati", "🤣🤣🤦‍♀️", "\"aku sakit hati\" law.", "Akta Helang 1998" ], [ "https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2023/12/14/man-claims-malaysian-govt-reported-his-tweet-to-x-after-calling-fahmi-a-moron/107485\nSeems a lot of news portals are reporting this. Fahmi is really a bad Com. Minister if he got triggered like this.\n-bloodymoron-", "Well he did threaten someone via TikTok a while ago", "Then that solidifies his incompetence as such." ], [ "Hati tisu", "kontol tisu :26554:", "You were born yesterday knowing that many PH members hati tisu? Kek.", "All woke people are hati tisu." ], [ "You would think our politicians should have known Streisand effect, but apparently not..." ], [ "The notice was from X stating that they had received a request from the Malaysian government because they claim that the content in it violated Malaysian laws.\nWow today I learn we cannot criticize politicians in Malaysia. They even censoring social media. PKR ministers really useless aside from being Anwar's lackeys as the tweet states.", "now you know?", "Awww.. one day old and already on Reddit. Such a smart baby...\nJk.. must be a really awesome tempurung you've been under to only learn this today.", "Who hurt you?", "Be careful,devindran might ask fahmi to message reddit to invoke akta sakit hati" ], [ "Fahmi should really step the fuck down…", "He's loyal to Anwar, just that fact alone means he can stay as long as he likes. Look at the PKR ministers, all useless but can be minister because they are loyal.", "Pretty much a requisite unfortunately. Loyalty over brains.", "Ekceli, I'd rather PKR ministers than geng vellfire. Well, i'm not sure that's a popular opinion.", "Ah later kena report then Fahmi will come and get you\n<image>", "Nah he's decent at his job.", "Ah we found his Reddit account", "Lmao it's just data and everyone can see it.\nI didn't say he's perfect, he's far from it but he's decent at it.\nIdiots would criticize everything without looking at the data and the work he had done 😂", "For example? Genuinely curious.\n(And before anyone asks, I did look up his jasa/sumbangan. No Google, his flood aid/sumbangan does not count.)", "Just look at what his kementerian had done", "Saw you post an almost identical comment a few weeks ago..At this point,I have no other choice but to believe you are indeed Fahmi", "Ah, by your logic i'm against Israel that must make me a Hamas member huh lol", "1.It was meant as a joke\n2.Be a good strawman and shoo the birds away" ], [ "that is petty." ], [ "What a bloody moron", "Mods!", "LowTierFahmi: \"No, the real moron here is you. Get that ass banned.\"", "what a bloody moron, and I specifically mean Fahmi Fadzil the downgraded Communications Minister of Malaysia." ], [ "This madani is really a tyrant gov , atleast go sue on netize , lose court and money ,get some ballz.", "Bruh, my Aussie mate said a while ago that our gomen is more authoritarian than the previous gomens.\nMemang padu Madani ni", "How the tables have turned 🤣", "\"How to turned have tables.\" Thats more like it.\n*Sips tea British-style", "Turns out, it’s not Melayu mudah lupa, but Malaysians also mudah lupa.\nWhen has this current government issued an Emergency so that they can do anything with their budget? How many times have famous anti gov people like Fahmi Redza got called to the balai polis for this government? People here wants to pretend as if it was all free and easy before, but turns out redittors are also mudah lupa", "Like it or not, aside from 1mdb issue, Malaysia peaked during Najib time. And that’s a fact.", "Of course Malaysia collapsed pretty quickly under Najib’s rule as well. 😂", "2 in 1 offer boss. Rugi tolak", "Now people see how severe Najib's wrongdoing had done to Malaysia.", "Actually the downfall of malaysia right now is because of current govt cancelling Najib’s project such as ECRL and HSR.", "Why they cancelled it? No money.\nWhy no money? There's your answer.", "Then how come if najib were to continue his reign, those projects would have been continued (and already finished by now)? Suddenly the money vanished when he’s not in power?" ], [ "like that ah redditor in this sub also can report lah", "Almost everyone here so pro PH report apa?", "Pro PH but hate Fahmi", "Agreed" ], [ "So insecure and petty. What a twat" ], [ "why can't he just leave shit like this alone? just digging his own grave." ], [ "What kind of a bloody moron who gets triggered by someone in the internet calling him a bloody moron? First day in the internet, dik?" ], [ "Most useless minister. Can’t get any job done. Useless moron." ], [ "Need to learn from bosku thick skin LOL hati tisu dont be menteri 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣" ], [ "The biggest bitch than this year's Call of Duty campaign." ], [ "At least under Najib's, netizens and pembangkang can criticise all they want. Now we cannot meh?" ], [ "That's called \"SUKA HATI LAW\"." ], [ "This country is allergic to facts" ], [ "no wonder PH supporters are mostly hati tisu as well.", "Bruh, they will call everyone who disagree with them as walaun either they actually love PAS or not. I know this because I've been called walaun many times despite my hatred to practically every political party here in Malaysia", "Shhh. Can't speak truth about that here.\nCan only speak truth that they like. The ones they dislike later gets the boot.", "Why do you collect gas masks?", "He's a CIA agent", "Ayo, me no Американский agent. Me no Russland agent too", "They're interesting stuff", "If something like this had happened under Najib, they would be crying about how there's no freedom of speech in Malaysia. But now it's just crickets. 🤭", "Now most of them cannot be found one, mostly hiding. But occasionally they’ll pop up to defend their masters for free. At least BN jkom macai got paid to defend their masters, PH macai very good, they do charity by defending their masters for free.", "This" ], [ "Hahahaah zaman bapak hang pa freedom of speech konon" ], [ "If you are bitch ass don't become a minister. Pussy" ], [ "I'm not surprised. I QT a tweet regarding Madani Sahari's corruption case using the 'hung, drawn, and quartered' euphemism and got myself permanently suspended off the platform." ], [ "Wow first action after clock in new job. This will be good for the rest of the term" ], [ "Fahmi Is Bloody Moron. Now cancel me too, Fahmi." ], [ "So relatively speaking no one would have known about this guys critical comments if Fahmi himself wanted this taken down which not only completely defeats the purpose but has the opposite effect and places the post infront of people Nationwide. If I was the guy who wrote the tweet I would be thinking thanks for making my point." ], [ "Kerajaan mudah koyak. 😂" ], [ "Kecian pami huhu" ], [ "kok kaca dik" ], [ "mane tweet tu.. can turn into NFT and sold ??" ], [ "Inilah dia Malaysia Boleh! Lain pun tak boleh. Boleh pun half past six" ], [ "So thin the skin. Epic lulz" ], [ "That is harsh, why dont people as critical when anwaar musa is at helm? Or has he developed a thick skin?" ], [ "thin skin is a illness.....cannot cure one" ], [ "Well the dude that tweeted was not wrong." ], [ "Fahmi is as soft as a fucking tissue and so does the people who vote for him in the last election in the first place\nI thought I know this sub better, you all voted for this sorry ass of a human", "Shhh, nanti they all come out in group saying ohh so u rather want PN lah win. LeSsEr EvIL is their favourite word." ], [ "This is the reason Elon bought tweeter, to prevent gov canceling ditractors" ], [ "What makes this move different than China government, who is also another police state constantly monitoring the comments and critisim towards government?\nJust morons making moronic moves, such a disgrace and insult to the name of Malaysia.\nThis country is moving into endless and hopless abyss of shithole" ], [ ":26561: haha bodoh fahmi koyak" ], [ "Why remove the tweet if it's true? 😉" ], [ "Menteri tengah koyak ke tu?..." ], [ "Takde sapa suruh dia suka fahmi tu…yang dia emo sangat kenapa? Marah sbb tak boleh claim rm100 eMadani tu ke?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣", "penyokong fahmi ke ini ? yg menteri hati tissue ini apasal ? 😂😂😂", "kenapa? Kau frust lagi ke sebab “tak chukop jumloh”? 🤣🤣🤣" ], [ "BRB, need to follow the @yindian5 acc immediately - bro spitting facts." ], [ "i just saw the tweet on another sub and all i can say is AHHAHAHAHHAHAHA" ], [ "Basically like umno. Wait they have indon komedi also that's why 😂🤣" ], [ "It would be so useful if these twitter warnings have specifics I.e Which person within the department (Name names) made this request." ], [ "Someone need to tell him that is just random normal internet" ], [ "So .... Next time try 'juicy moron' ?" ] ]

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[ [ "Bloody hell RM30M just for flagpole is daylight robbery. No wonder these politicians are so rich . Some more the minister say \"Do not focus so much on the cost of the project.\"", "rm5m to build the flagpole, the remaining rm25m being distributed to their cronies.", "Sumbangan rakyat tidak dibazirkan /S :29091:", "such offensive take on facts and completely out of context. The actual fact is, the 25m rm was used for \"job creation\" and \"development of local labour pool\".", "https://www.reddit.com/r/malaysia/comments/18dm7tu/abang_johari_with_his_mercedes_g63/\nClose to RM2mil supercar for Sarawak leader." ], [ "Truly a red flag" ], [ "Vanity project" ], [ "It’s easy to spend that amount of money when that money is given to you and you don’t have to earn it" ], [ "It's privately funded btw, not by the state gov. Still, it's fishy for any party/company to spend 30 mil for something as 'interesting' as a flagpole.", "it is now a ‘tourist attraction’", "Pegi sarawak nak tengok bendera 😅", "A.k.a you build this thingy for RM30 mil. I give you RM40mil worth of state land/permits.", "Those damn westerners! Oh wai-" ], [ "Wtf? You could build a whole building for that amount of money." ], [ "This is so disgustingly blatant that it's actually hilarious. A 30mill flag pole?" ], [ "So what can tourists do w the flag pole?" ], [ "Salah semenanjung malaya! Ini semua kamu orang punya kerjaa" ], [ "How TF RM30 Million? At Max prolly 10Million, foundation,architect,labour,plan. So sketchy. North Korea can do taller one ma." ], [ "isn't there a new bus \"rail less train\" coming soon? Your tax dollars at work folks. Where are the Brookes eh?" ], [ "Taxpayers money put to good use", "Well is there one one project that they actually put to good used ? Everything comes with consequences of corruption" ] ]

[ "Entertainment" ]

[ [ "At this point I am fully convinced that LPF's existence only serves as a stumbling block to local film industry.", "Theyre run by boomers for the boomers", "Most accurate assessment, seeing how the publisher isn't even a non\nOld heads are stuck up their asses, and some even on this sub fail to see that it's a class war more than anything else" ], [ "Screencap of the article\n<image>" ], [ "Now you wait that disgrace Fahmi ban it on YT, or send take down notice to YT. But they can't do shit if one to change their YT account to SG or anywhere else. Open internet for the win.", "Would be hilarious if they ban YouTube for this...", "They banned the entirety of Steam once.", "Won't be surprise they will do it.", "Fahmi is actually damn liberal. Even started out in theatre arts before becoming an activist. The moment he become minister he turn 180. Soon the guy will be wearing a tanjak too lol." ], [ "Genuinely sounds like a very, very heartwarming movie. Has subtle patriotic undertones, talks about the importance of Malaysian unity and the consequences of division. Every Malaysian who loves this country and its people should watch it" ], [ "it's funny because they can get YouTube to geo-block it in Malaysia but then you can just use a VPN to get around that too" ], [ "I don’t even intend to watch, but I’ll donate as this is the right way for art. F the gatekeepers, let creators create." ], [ "Someone ask namewee put Babi online too please?? Or anyone got inside news why can't put online? Is it too troublesome? I will pay for this movie 10/10", "Interested in seeing this as well" ], [ "That's why Malaysian film industry will never be successful like South Korea", "Don't have to look so far, just comparing it to out neighbor, Thailand, it's already night and day.", "Because all the Malaysian film industry did was remaking childish ass romantic comedy just to satisfy these angry religious boomers.", "The thing is that the more artsy part of the film industry does actually exist here, where people really wanna try and push the envelope, but it ultimately suffers because of demand and the LPF blocking it cos to a point they know what their most influential angry crowd would be. Nonetheless, I still hate them", "This, basically. Malaysian films enter and play festivals all over the world all the time. But they're arthouse flicks with topical topics or small budgets that will never be screened in Malaysia." ], [ "Thanks for sharing" ], [ "Thanks for sharing. Will definitely check it out." ], [ "LPF, under the Home Ministry, is just like any other gov agencies. They have their SOP and they will follow that SOP, no matter how outdated it is. The only way forward is to update the SOP. My theory is that nobody wants to update it because there's no upside to the hard work it requires. You won't get \"paid\" extra, u most probably be hated and your career/future will be in trouble. It's sad.\nOn another note, streaming services and YouTube imo, are the future. I hope local production houses can take advantage of both platforms as their creativity won't be hindered.\nI'm currently in the entertainment industry and I know for a fact there a many creatives out there in Malaysia who can produce good quality content. The shows you see on TV is 95% of time just to make money (cash flow to survive) as their storyline, choice of actors etc are controlled by the TV stations. The TV station only wants to make money (ads), so when they have a TV show that has high ratings, they will use the same formula (storyline/actors) for the next show. This is why local shows have very similar storyline." ], [ "https://youtu.be/ykLQbkZ0piA?si=-dIEtN2GFQa23jB4" ], [ "If any story that deviates from the norm gets held back by LPF, there is not much hope for the local cinema" ] ]

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[ "🔙Throwback Thursday" ]

[ [ "Well organised like IKEA showroom cabinets.", "Manyak mangkuk2", "dammit! here I am snortling and suppressing laughter while sitting on the toilet in office.\nyou win the internet today sir!" ], [ "challenge: spot faces that appear in both cabinets!", "Lemme try the challenge;-\nBoth cabinets (is more than I thought)\n1) Fadillah Yusof 2) Zafrul Tengku 3) Noraini Ahmad 4) Alexander Nanta Linggi 5) Nancy Shukri 6) Tiong King Sing 7) Hanifah Hjr Taib 8) Arthur Joseph Kurup 9) Hasbi Habibollah\nBoth, but states instead (not all I can remember)\n1) Maximum Johnity Ongkili 2) Reezal Merican 3) Jonathan Yasin 4) Dr. Jeffrey Kitingan", "Alexander Nanta Tunggu 🤣🤣🤣 Sebenarnya... Alexander Nanta Linggi", "Dayum, thx nyet\nMe and auto correct strike again :26554:", "Are there actually any BN ministers in both cabinets (since BN was part of both governments)?", "Well, there’s a certain Tengku which has been the cabinet for the past three governments! (And will remain there for a few more)", "He is nominated by another faction", "iykyk", "payung kuning.", "They will have to reshuffle him out of the cabinet by 2025 when he's no longer a senator. He'll need to secure a safe seat in GE16 somehow if he plans to remain there for a few more years.", "Ooh will there be another tengku to take his place by then?", "There's Tengku, Noraini and Arthur for BN parties.\nWhile the other are former BN (currently under gabungan parti Sarawak)." ], [ "Yeh! No more Rina!" ], [ "there's a noticeable lag between pics - Cabinet 2020 image loads in significantly slower. I WONDER WHY /s", "Most likely the source image is huge.", ":26554:" ], [ "Are we really lack new blood or we have strange liking of deadwood?", "Syed Saddiq suppose to be the \"new blood\". Guy fked up so bad his entire group get kicked out and sidelined.", "The dude is oblivious thinking he's the Millennial Tun or Anwar.", "Youngest minister at 25 y/o. Could very well have been the next Tun.", "could very well be the next Najib (MB at 29 y/o)", "That's what everyone thought. But people forgot Najib came from the razak political dynasty and has the best foundations a politician can think off. This guy got nothing just happen to be lucky.", "ReSpEcT tHe eLdErLY SeNiOrS.\nIt's problematic issue in all parties including those considered progressive.", "\"It's not deadwood, it's vintage antiques!\"\n/s", "\"The value increases the Older and more Forgetful it is!\"\n/s", "We have Wan Fahysal as new blood and ready to go.", "🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮" ], [ "The next guy needs to do a Javier Milei and axe half the cabinet" ], [ "So basically (too oversimplified):\nPAS ministers - Tak buat kerja\nBN ministers- Jarang buat kerja\nPKR ministers- Jarang buat kerja\nDAP ministers - Actually buat kerja", "When Teresa Kok was minister, she buat kerja. But it didn't work well as intended like love my palm oil campaign. But at least she did kerja.", "She a failures… just accept it.. unlike Hannah Yeoh or Yeoh Bin Yin", "I'd say she's getting senile. She did a good job during her Selangor exco years. But now....uhh..... Can't even say something nice about Syed Saddiqs late cat. So sad", "Turning out Syed Saddiq has beef with DAP due to the cat comment /s", "Exco duties is day and night compared to handle a ministry .. her shortcoming really shows", "Lim Guan Eng say hi.", "He's the exception (thanks to him, HSR cancelled, Penang LRT delayed, ECRL and LRT3 cutback, MRT3 pending).", "Also LGE bullies Sarawak about money... MAKE SARAWAK BANKCRUPT!!! Ahh... very stupid Nobita.... 🤦", "Hahahahaha worst finance minister in Msia.", "Teresa Kok, Sivakumar and LGE shows that DAP also have useless ministers", "Hence the \"oversimplified\" part in my original post. Of course there are useless DAP ministers (LGE), but for the most part DAP actually buat kerja.", "Bersatu ministers - Error 404?", "semua sama ja, wayang" ], [ "Cant have too little or too many. Need the right balance.\nChanging ministry is not that easy. Under each ministry theres alot of departments. So, if you remove a minister position, those departments will have to be moved elsewhere. And adding minister position, affected departments will also move around.\nIf having a small cabinet, means 1 minister will be responsible with alot of departments. And as 2018 had proven, it will create alot of problems. Departments require minister approval for certain things. So, when a minister have too many depts under him or her, some approval will be late to approve or will just cincai be approved or rejected.\nBut having too many is also not good. Having too many means each minister will have not many departments under them. So, simply put, more goyabg kaki.\nWe should not only look at minister position, but also PA. This is also important. Having too little PA will also be a disaster as PA are actually the ones doing alot of work. From research to proposals. Since this administration didnt touch anything about PA, im guessing theres a ton of PA under each minister.", "Huh. So you're saying there are hidden Sub Sub Ministers?", "Yeap. You think a minister with lets say a degree in arts can understand all the complicated stuff? Its the PA that goes through everything, and then summarize it into words the minister can understand.\nThere will be a big problem when a minister who has no qualification appoints a PA who also have no qualifications. That ministry will face big issues.", "TIL. When I got that call to be a PA to politikus it could've been real :26559:" ], [ "Untill the day Malaysia will accept a Chinese or an Indian prime minister all this politics will never change. Cuz Malaysia is afraid of change.\nSame old same old.\n<image>", "Likelihood Singapore get minority pm higher than Malaysia get minority pm", "whos gonna tell this guy?", "The last Singapore presidential elections, 70% voted for a minority. If you can and qualified to do the job, you’ll be voted in regardless of race.", "reply to person above not me", "Uhhh because the candidate fielded were not top of the crop and the parachuted a minister who has tried and tested as well as experienced in the political arena. Again qualification is very subjective here. Having to helm a portfolio of at least 500mil as a criteria? Uh no shit those in the seats have a higher chances of being a candidate as the probably will have better outlook from a political perspective/ stable, understand dynamic of Singapore politic view rather having some randoms from a private sector being the president. Duhhhhh" ], [ "On hindsight.. I got so many faces to punch in cabinet 2020.. Relative more than year 2023", "I think you have a different take after subsidy cutback, increased tax, increased tnb tariff and introduction of new tax in 2024, at the backdrop of historical low ringgit.\n2024 gonna be a blast!", "Historically low ringgit, lmao. Does the history starts in 2022? hahaha", "Bro. Some people were truly 'born yesterday' :26554:", "Kenapa? Tidak percaya ke?\nhttps://www.bharian.com.my/bisnes/pasaran/2023/10/1168627/ringgit-di-paras-baharu-terendah-dalam-sejarah-berbanding-dolar#google_vignette", "isn't 4.62 now ? and it still dropping", "Alamak, drop lagi ke? Plan nak simpan USD sampai 4.8" ], [ "KJ got done dirty" ], [ "fr I’ve never seen our deputy pm is working tho, he only appeared in news only when UMNO mesyuarat", "I think you're right. Pemalas. The other guy at least is rep for S and S", "some of it definitely are still cuti oversea, it’s like many of them never ever had any exposure/ appeared in news?? I swear idk who is our defense minister, 90% probably is umno people.\nI’ve say it could be hard to be progressive (since it was appointed to make it every party has a piece of benefits) very very rojak." ], [ "Still too big", "probably setback of a patch up Unity Government.\nBetter than a Masuk Belakang Government, or the before that Zombietun Government." ], [ "Yay! Updated 2024 mugshots for archery practice!" ], [ "Heres an unpopular opinion - people always talks about comparing the cabinet sizes of Malaysia vs other developed nation, on how UK need like 3 ministers only and so on. But im on the boat of if by separating the tasks and have more ministers makes it better for Malaysians then so be it. Whats the salary of a few more ministers (and crew of course) compare to (hopefully good) that will be beneficial to the whole Malaysians?\nWe dont have a lot of high quality ministers yet imo maybe a few. Thus let them focus on a specific scope will do more benefit. Heres Hoping on some improvement by Fahmi Fadzil.\nAnwar always said the didnt take salary and so on but the impact is so small that it doest matter." ], [ "Foolishly separate Digital and Communications just because they want to keep Fadzil while bringing back Gobind" ], [ "Both overweight\nBut systolic blood pressure 180 Vs 140.", "Eli5 or Eli- will never have basic bp knowledge :26557:" ], [ "Menteri Perpaduan\nAlso known as a bribe" ], [ "All the Cabinets since Najibs time is full of Corn magazine, weird autistic people and right wing supremecists.. no need to show.. i can smell the stench of dead bodies coming from it" ], [ "I see no difference anyway.. both are junk\nEDIT: Oh come on! Why downvoting me. I'm speaking the truth", "got difference", "Do you vote? :26555::26556::29091:", "yes", "sorry for your loss (vote kena paksa)" ], [ "Hanna Suan is a cutie", "Hanna fanboy? Fair enough :26555:" ], [ "Still incompetent" ], [ "Too many" ], [ "Prof. Ramsay ask why no Indian Tamil minister?", "Prof. Ramsay ask why no Indian PM?", "LOL" ], [ "Only 30+ million citizen, need almost 60+ minister +deputy", "Assigned by Race too. So you need to double head to address ~ 92% (Bumi 70.1%, Cina 22.6%). Sry Indians 6.6%, mamakutty did you dirty :28915:" ], [ "Just putting a reminder here: The Cabinet consists of the Prime Minister and Ministers only. The Deputy Minister doesn't count. They aren't even invited into the Cabinet meeting." ] ]

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[ [ "Menteri Hati Tisu.", "Yang Amat Berkoyak", "Goes well with Perdana Menteri PDF Berak.", "Menteri bloody moron", "Menteri bodoh berdarah" ], [ "I'm genuinely confused. Is this his first in position of power?", "Yes", "he also rode bicycle in his office", "He also rode on @nwar", "Lol..I used to know him.. we held an evening for him at my friends house and my friend was his first benefactor..like gave him an alphard with a driver all early one when he was running in 2018..my friend was Anwars friend but they've recently fallen out. Anyways..this dudes background was like theatre or some shit..something in the arts.. needless to say, even when we were chummy, it was apparent he was naive and a bit of a dunce. Nurul Izzah had to cut in during his speech to assist as he was rambling nonsense.. bless his heart..maybe he did ride Anwar because I still don't get why he was brought on board. It was so much work to help him seem capable.", "No. PMX doesn’t really like capable people because it would dim his spotlight.\nThose with the ability to lead have mostly left him. Say what you want about Azmin but he can lead a party. In fact, he was one of those few who build up PKR during its early days.", "Why does everyone that close to him becomes like that.", "We need more people like Hannah, Yeo Bee Yin, Anthony Loke, Kongkalikong, Ramkarpal etc... the rest all just puppet flying high on skin colour to sit in their position...", "Just realise Yeo Bee Yin doesn’t hold any post." ], [ "Fahmi menteri bodoh Dan bahlol" ], [ "Lagak macam Xi pulak.", "Ini semua salah DAP" ], [ "lol wtf? So dumb. Don’t be a public figure if you can’t handle criticism, insult or trolls.\nI’m not condoning insults against public figures, but everyone knows that this all comes with the job.", "The way he behave is kinda insulting to the post he have." ], [ "When not in power go back to crying about freedom of speech. How dumb can this guy be?", "Rules for thee but not for me" ], [ "What a bloody moron", "Pdrm be like:" ], [ "Lmao PKR betraying everything they run for. Can't even criticize minister now.", "Met the new boss, same as the old boss - Won't Get Fooled Again, The Who" ], [ "PM split his portfolio so that he can now concentrate more on Comms, lmao.", "but gaji not split", "Says no one ever" ], [ "Monster of Miscommunication" ], [ "What a dumbass" ], [ "..... The bloody moron evolved into bloody snowflake." ], [ "which part of censorship does they nt understand. its beyond their jurisdiction. handle it like a real man and step up your game so tht people call you better NAMES. thats it." ], [ "Siape makan cili, dia rasa pedas nie..." ], [ "Like this is going to change anything. Your actions made people are going to call you more than a moron." ], [ "Streisand effect in full swing lol." ], [ "Now all of Malaysia knows lmao" ], [ "Ah yes I voted PH for actual change.\nThe change:" ], [ "My stupid brain forgot Twitter is called X now and auto interprets hantaran as hantaran khawin ...\nI was super confused for 10 seconds", "How is X meaning hantaran kahwin? Genuine question. How do you use it in a sentence?" ], [ "X to doubt." ], [ "[ Removed by Reddit ]" ], [ "Kau jangan sampai dia leak browsing history even dah guna incognito" ], [ "What’s the problem calling an idiot a bloody moron. He probably the first one that have that as his main tittle. He should be proud to be the first one that triumphs on that tittle." ], [ "Well the dude that tweeted is not wrong though. Is it a crime to spit facts?" ], [ "Bloody moron" ], [ "hurt feeling... poor dude" ], [ "Criticism in social media on political leaders a common thing. This guy should have known that for a long time now. The moment he tells the owner and employees of a social media app to delete it will only show the weak side that he has. Now people will relentlessly harass this guy because how soft he is and that he actually cares.\nAnother thing is that this guy is acting cringe not in cringe teenager way. Malaysia that has like zero influence to demand or order some influential global company like X/Twitter to delete it isn't gonna work." ], [ "Bloody moron fahmi , you being paid from our tax money . Idiot son of a bitch fahmi think him royalty or what ? Bloody moron fahmi" ], [ "Ambik masa jugaklah nak faham tajuk tu, ingatkan X tu sebutnya\"tak\" sebab\" kerajaan\" pun dia pendekkan. Rupanya Twitter. Aku pun fikir kenapa pulak kerajaan minta tak padam gelaran macam tu? hahah" ], [ "why so many hatred towards him? I know he didn't achieve much but I'm sure he doesn't deserve this amount of humiliation. PuAS tactics?", "Lol", "because he's a soyboy." ], [ "awww" ], [ "Hahahhaha dia kena belajar dari jibby ni 😂😂😂😂" ], [ "Meet The Butthurt Man" ], [ "You want Elon to say fu and pull out investments ?" ] ]

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[ [ "https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2015/06/23/health-dg-dress-code-not-mandatory\nNo one willing to put the foot down and decide once and for all. That's why 3 months later we will see this news again.", "Because gomen got no 🏀🏐. They want to pander to the extremist section of society who want to impose their brand of morality on everyone else." ], [ "Kepercayaan Kepada Tuhan\nKesetiaan Kepada Raja Dan Negara\nKeluhuran Perlembagaan\nKedaulatan Undang Undang\nKesopanan dan Kesusilaan\nKepakaian seluar panjang", "It's a kesopanan Dan kesusilaan. Tbh, from OP's picture that uncle did dress casual but already sopan. How polite do we need to dress ourselves just to take medicines", "This dress code is beyond stupid.", "To be fair, some weird uncles used to come with short pants and didn't wear t shirts, only a small towel on his neck so I kinda understand why they make the rules", "It’s a hospital. Shouldn’t matter how someone dresses if they need help.", "Need to add another line.\nKepakaian otak dan kontrol nafsu sendiri jika lihat kaki orang." ], [ "<image>", "The attire of the victim", "Can see his ankles thats why /s", "man, ngl, I was strangely turned on. /s", "I see why he is not allowed, his shirt are showing some non islam god's tokong. /s", "eh, looking at that tourist shirt, I actually think that is the reason\nThe last few months have been crazy with certain types suddenly having a lot of hysterical insecurities about anything even slightly western.", "Strange, im feeling hot all of a sudden", "omg, i saw his ankle...to the toilet I GOOOOO ( with tissue in hand)", "Nurses might swoon at the sight", "Let's hope it's the female one's.", "Male also can’t resist. Just look at those calves", "I wear that to work in the hospital in AU." ], [ "It felt like I'm having dejavu here" ], [ "Isn't this against Article 5, 8 and 10 of the Constitution?" ], [ "Seberang Jaya is PAS controlled electorate ?", "The ADUN is a pn guy", "It is now" ], [ "based on Rukun Negara\nNo it doesn't." ], [ "Aurat more important than health, once again" ], [ "To be fair, they afraid of becoming gay when looking at men's curvy ankles. It's hard to control their sexual drive." ], [ "Lol rukun negara is not legal binding." ], [ "Sarong boleh tak?" ], [ "Malaysia Boleh 🤣" ], [ "Our country will never move forward Stupid mindset" ], [ "I suggest everyone wear the burqa! Men, women, children, elderly, cats, hamsters" ], [ "Rukun Negara isn't even law.........." ], [ "Ingatkan sakit...melawat rupenye.." ], [ "penang? not kedah? waht happen DAP? fukin taliban DAP.", "More like little Napoleons doing their own shit, DAP can't control every little thing that happens.", "oh now they cant control everything?\nhow they can control gov with majority malay?\nuse little napoleons as scapegoat?\nbullshit DAP.", "It's literally random government servants, probably not even from Penang, sitting at their desks thinking they can do whatever they want, not a DAP MP sitting at the desk refusing service to uncle.\nI know DAP does a lot of wrong things but this isn't one of them, chill out.", "I bet it was the hospital pengarah who made the rules. The guards are then instructed to implement the rules. When there's blowback form the public, the pengarah, efffing coward, will blame the guards for overstepping their authority. Guards get transferred and the pengarah will get away scott free. Things quiet down, then in a few months time, pengarah will do the same thing again, this time with different set of guards, rinse and repeat. That's the reason you see it on social media regular like clockwork.", "\"ini semua salah DAP!\"\ngetting downvoted for trash take\n\"DAP cytros and shills out in full force!\"", "<image>\nThe appropriate meme.", "", "Hello, this comment was removed due to being in breach of reddiquette, specifically because it contained personal attack, insult, or threat. While opinions of all kinds are welcome under our shared roof, reddiquette sets the expectation that everyone speaks to each other with basic civility and respect:\nDon’t: Conduct personal attacks on other commenters. Ad hominem and other distracting attacks do not add anything to the conversation.\nDon't: Insult others. Insults do not contribute to a rational discussion. Constructive Criticism, however, is appropriate and encouraged.\nDon’t: Be (intentionally) rude at all. By choosing not to be rude, you increase the overall civility of the community and make it better for all of us.\nPlease treat this as an official warning - further such activity may result in a ban, thanks.", "Man here's having a stroke.", "Dap controlling malay government still a thing?", "Only when it suits the narrative and audience at that time. The enemy is both strong and weak at the same time." ], [ "You know why this keeps happening ? Because there are no repercussions. Cuba terminating the employment of these culprits , and demoting their superiors. Esok this problem will go away." ] ]

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[ [ "why the campsite land - once considered environmentally sensitive - was eventually allowed to be developed\nThis must be answered", "answer:" ], [ "developers and authorities had “exploited legal loopholes” by dividing projects into smaller parcels to bypass EIA requirements\nAtrocious" ], [ "a thorough and transparent investigative process should have involved an independent commission of inquiry and an avenue for victims to pose queries\nOught to do" ], [ "It is so frustrating that general public need to learn and do due diligence of sites first before camping. What are the authorities role in this?" ], [ "State government just swept this under the hill.." ] ]

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[ [ "I agree with you OP, so long as we don't crackdown on nonsense like this, we will never ever be a developed country.\nEspecially when something so logical such as not opening a stall in the middle of the street is overlooked by many, heck even supported by influencers such as aming", "Seriously, and the gov constantly whines and complains like a little bitch about how state revenues are dwindling bla bla... Just fucking fine these people and illegally parked cars to high heaven lol and the problem solves itself.\nCan bulldoze farms in the middle of buttfuck nowhere in Perak but can't bulldoze pavement obstructions in Taman Melati, Kuala Lumpur.", "Exactly instead of pandering to it. A government should encourage its citizens to be entrepreneurs however it cannot allow laws to be blatantly broken just because it can.\nGov should provide them with a cleaner, legal alternative and rent out these premises at a cheaper rate.\nOh well good thing we have a new FT minister that's compatible!! - oh wait it's the former health minister :)", "Political suicide that's why.\nIncoming 'kerajaan zalim' 'ditindas' 'b40 cuma mencari rezeki halal'etc and so forth.\nVotes are more important than rules in msia 🤷‍♀️. So forever 3rd world only" ], [ "Source: syarat_lesen_penjaja_.pdf (mpbp.gov.my)\n<image>", "9 meter lol. Already fail every stall owner. By 9 meter mean main road or any road?", "Pegilah report" ], [ "instead of butthurt and bitching here, report to majlis bandaran or post in socmed for that viral sensation.\ngoogle what sispaa for majlis bandaran is" ], [ "Yeah usually PBT will not take action until the premise causes terrible nuisance or many people report the premise.\nJust do our civic duty to report these stalls.", "In my circle, we acknowledged that our culture of reporting is not good. Not taking care basic routine like bus stop, bus frequency, longkang sumbat and all. Just make report. Not really easy at first, but our job is report la. Upgraded rajin is to keep records our report. Some twitterian said PBT motto is \"no report, no case\".", "Does anyone have any idea where I can report this? I live literally 3 minutes away and this street is fucking terrible enough without KA trying to get dozens more ppl to come.", "Most PBTs have their own online portal for payments and complaints. Or just email or call them saying that you want to make a complaint", "Or one day a blind person following the \"blind people guide\" and accidentally knockdown the illegal stall food and the store owner beat up the blind person." ], [ "it's a legacy of a low income nation.\nthe PBTs often closed one eye because of political pressure.\nOne former MB even gave instruction \"jgn kacau janji mereka bersihkan tempat\"\nyou may argue the B40 is a captive vote bank or otherwise but divide & rule politics is a hallmark of this nation. One wonder whether the ppl who walks the corridor of power intended to keep a B40 class for their agenda.\nInterestingly, LGE was given the nickname \"Tokong\" by his own PH ally for cracking down on illegal hawkers. Unfortunately under the current CM the hawkers are back. U'll be amazed that every facets of Malaysian life is linked to politics. \"All roads lead to Rome\" so they say." ], [ "oh I know this place.\nClose to Melati LRT, next to a masjid and surrounded with PPR. Good luck filing a complain lol, people there DGAF about traffic. The irony is that there's lot of dedicated areas for penjaja just across the road.\nThe only way action will be taken is when a wheelchair guy fall into longkang and dies or a lorry stuck at the junction for 4 hours and video gets viralled.\nFor those wondering, here's google street. I just now noticed the \"laluan basikal\" sign lol\nhttps://www.google.com/maps/@3.2217952,101.7201364,3a,75y,42.14h,77.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s87z0m_7d1fqYlMAT4aFmlQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu", "Tutup laluan basikal boleh asalkan x tutup periuk nasi aku!!!🥺🥺" ], [ "Of course it's illegal and will further disrupt whatever little walkable sidewalks there are in urban areas, not to mention bad hygiene practices. Haiz I do not see following the rules out of care for civilised society is Malaysian culture." ], [ "It's actually the same thing with gerai goreng pisang tepi jalan, nasi lemak pagi2 tepi jalan. They don't have the permit to open shop. It's only when got orang komplen to some pihak that an action will be taken, or else, memang takde buat apa pun" ], [ "It's just there because no one bothers to report. Start putting in one, and get a few to do so and that should get the Majlis Perbandaran/DBKL on their feet", "you try report and see whos coming?\nyou think no one report ka?", "Rather than complaining here work together with your neighbors and start complaining into the right channel.", "Yeah right.. temporary solutions that is.. you tried invite neighbour and see.. at first many came .. later on decrease one by one until no one come anymore" ], [ "Short answer. Malaysia boleh.\nNot so short answer. Melayu Malaysia boleh.\nLong answer : years of negligence and bribes to local council workers make it easy for business entrepreneural malays to portray an outlook that needs help from other Malays while doing all they can legal or not." ], [ "While i agree stalls are a way of Malaysian life, this is also why we cannot progress to the levels of say... Australia.\nJust visit lembah subang and you can see gerai gerai on one long stretch of main road. Such a hazard but nothing is been done to rectify this matter.\nAnything constructed in that area is normally dismantled by residents of that area.\nIt's like they WANT to stay in poverty of sorts.", "No need to go far la... Singapore good enough as a comparison" ], [ "Good luck demolishing these without being called kerajaan zalim" ], [ "Why cannot?\nMore than 20 years ago, Outside of my office, there's a big longkang with a lone bus stop. That's where everyone wait for bus.\nStalls popped up around the buss top selling kuih muih and nasi lemak and what not. No one take action on them.\nThen they added cement covers on longkang so they have more place for their table and chairs.\nafter that they added zinc bumbung so their client can sit more comfortably.\nThen they extend cable and water so they can have Tv and water and what not.\nNow they have renovated their stalls by adding brick walls.\nThe bus stop? Still there. Surrounded by kedais. It's a popular eatery for police and dbkls.\nSo I ask again, why not?", "Why not? What about the traffic and pedestrian obstruction problems that were just brought up? Doesn't having dozens of people crowd around the same area as the bus stop in any way jeopardize the safety of commuters/pedestrians and ease of usage of the pavement? Having tons of unregulated eatery businesses without the proper permits and business licenses on public pavements and letting them run rampant and peddle whatever diarrhoea causing foods they want? The sheer entitlement complex exhibited by some people that led to this being done in the first place and how not tackling this is just enabling and perpetuating that same behavior?", "I dont think you can sense my sarcasm.", "Fleetingly crossed my mind but my sarcasm senses weren't tingling just enough HAH", "And better yet, some cina bought over a huge plot of land, rented the place for Eco-Shop and other stores. They also added a row of shaded cubicles, big enough for stalls. After 3 months of operation, dbkl came and bulldozed the whole area.\nToo bad. The pan mee in one of those stalls are quite nice.\nOh yeah somehow some malay stalls outside of Eco-Shop in Selayang, yes the one near highway and Selayang hospital, still operating. I wonder when they will brick up their stalls so they can officially become kedai.\nTo be fair, I heard same thing happened in penang, except inverted role for cina stalls and malay stalls. Not sure how true it was.\nP. S. Yeah I butthurt af because I kena saman by dbkl for forgetting to change my address when shifting my office from 1st floor to ground floor. Apparently 1st floor office license is not usable for ground floor office license, and need to change address when renew license. So the saman is for not having license for ground floor office.", "P. S. Yeah I butthurt af because I kena saman by dbkl for forgetting to change my address when shifting my office from 1st floor to ground floor. Apparently 1st floor office license is not usable for ground floor office license, and need to change address when renew license. So the saman is for not having license for ground floor office.\nLOL OFC THEY CAN'T CUT YOU ANY SLACK FOR THAT CUZ IT'S SUCH A GRIEVOUS MISTAKE because your office totally can't still be identified from your business signage right? What a bunch of absolute fucking bellends.", "It's because business premises license is tied to the premises. You can't transfer the license from the old premises to the new premises.\nIt's like car road tax. If you change your car, you need to pay new road tax for the old car. You can't transfer the road tax from the old car to the new car.", "Yeah" ], [ "It’s very Malaysian though to eat road side food, and there’s a lot that are good, and more importantly, cheap. If you make a very strong ban on all, you also lose all the ramly, coconut, kuih, rm2 nasi lemak sellers.\nBan everything for the sake of keeping pavement clean, imo we lose more than gain. Food prices will go up a lot when you MUST own a store, and pay rent, for sure the food has a premium already.\nIMO the reason why Malaysians love and are proud of Malaysian food, is cause there is heck of a lot of competition, so it keeps store businesses honest cause they’re also competing with the kakak selling kuih for rm2, if you sell not nice or too much more, you won’t have business.", "Meanwhile food in Singapore more affordable for sinkies even though they removed the culture of street vendors.\nI'm curious, do you believe in city planning?", "Meanwhile food in Singapore more affordable for sinkies\nYeah. If you're paid like them. And aren't Malaysians always saying \"Singapore food not nice. Malaysia has better food\".", "“Affordable”? SG cost of living is way more than Malaysia.. Their hawker stalls are more akin to some big food court we have, like ss2, uptown(outside), and in malls, which is still slightly more expensive than street gerai. They have nothing like our street food price ratio wise.\nNext you’re gonna tell me SG food is good cause they got a lot of competition right?", "i see you ignored my question\nhave you even been to the markets in sg? like the ones in tao payoh? or you just basing this opinion on the food courst tourist see", "Dude, that's a weak take. The hawkers (that's what they call markets in Singapore) no longer charge that low. The affordability you mentioned is based on the the income Singaporeans earn. Imagine having to pay Rm10 for every mediocre meal? Are Malaysians ready for that?", "Complications of SG hawker centres being increasingly owned by major chains and increasing rents terminally aside, you are already paying rm10 for hawker food in KL. RM8-9 is already the standard price of a bowl of noodles in PJ.", "PJ and KL. You can't compare that to Toa Payoh", "Buying power in SG still greater than MY. It's not a 1:1 comparison. You can't draw direct comparison between $3.50 chapfan and RM10 chapfan and ask \"is this reasonable?\".\nMy RM10 doesn't stretch as far as my $3.50", "That's exactly it. You're the one who mentioned it as if it's an apple to apple comparison. Which is ehy o pointed out all those differences. And no, I don't compare it based on the currency. I'm basing $10 to Rm10. Which all in all, is of similar value in respective countries", "I did not comment as if it was apples to apples btw. Not sure why you read it like that.\nMy $10 in SG goes a lot farther than my RM10 in KL. Though not as much in 2023 due to global inflation.", "I have a brother that lives there so yes, what’s your point though? Am I wrong to say it’s more akin to the food courts we have in Malaysia? And there’s nothing in SG that price ratio wise is same like street food? I mean ignore my points more why won’t you, on the basis that I don’t live directly in SG?", "From an average income/ average hawker food price pov, Singapore is more affordable.", "Yes, it is. So the question is, are we ready to eliminate the currently affordable food choices when our median income is nowhere near that of Singapore?", "Since when Singapore food is affordable? If you go to any food court, the food is way overpriced and the portion is so little. I ordered a $2 soya bean which is basically just diluted soy water. You would be lucky if you could find $4 chicken rice nowadays.", "Anything between 5 sgd to 10 is pretty affordable\nstop going to gentrified food courts", "Alright. I'm under the impression you're a young Singaporean. $10 isn't affordable by some standards. But you're free to think what you want", "Dude. Singapore only has food court or hawker centres and they are not affordable. $10 is not affordable.\nI can literally get RM3 Nasi Lemak from the roadside stall.", "What does that RM3 Nasi Lemak contain?", "Chicken bits, egg, peanuts and sambal.", "And a side of salmonella as well as e.coli., probs.", "Oh please. 🙄\nYou talk as if you don’t eat at kopitiam or mamak. FYI, we rarely have salmonella and e coli outbreak. These major outbreaks kill.\nGet down your high horse and let people enjoy their street food. Not everyone is rich enough to enjoy cafe and restaurant food everyday. You do realise even in KL city centre, office workers rather have lunch at the food stalls right? They even set up stalls along St. Mary Residence along Jalan Sultan Ismail. Those areas are not cheap.", "Kopitiams and mamaks are actual physical establishments in legit commercial units/shoplots with an enclosed, dedicated kitchen, running metered water, more likely to have BUSINESS REGISTRATION PERMITS while these warungs prepare and store all food next to a literal road man under the Malaysian heat and humidity. Please tell me how they are remotely the same? Why TF we defend the indefensible here lol just get fucking set up legitimately why is that such a tall task? There are empty, legit tapaks that you can set up on a mere 5 minute walk away so why still be an inconsiderate fuck and plop your monstrosity/violation of a structure on a public pavement?", "As if no one got food poisoning in Singapore. There are lots of cases there where an established restaurant was the culprit for food poisoning", "Malaysian here living in SG... You can get $1.50 nasi lemak from your local kopitiam. Not sure where you're pulling $10 from. My local chapfan is around $3.50 to $4.40 for 2 veg 1 meat, that's still cheaper than eating RM8 chapfan in PJ these days. Even noodles are $4-5, cheaper than RM9 hawker in PJ.", "I’m also living in Singapore and you can rarely get $3.50 chap fan nowadays. 2 veg 1 meat usually starts at $5 at the lowest. And the portion is so little it’s pathetic.\nBy the way, if are paying RM8 for 2 veg 1 meat, you are being slaughtered. You can absolutely get RM4-5 chap fan in KL and PJ. I don’t understand why you purposely lower the price in SG while increase the price in KL. You are being ingenuine in your argument.\nAnd please show me where to get $1.50 Nasi Lemak in SG, I want to try. Please make sure it has protein too.", "Base NL with selar fish. Probably $2 now, haven't had it in awhile.\nMy chapfan at my local kopitiam ranges from 3.50 to 4.40. Overall, portion size is okay, not pathetic.\nI have friends who are eating RM8-9 chapfan since they're sharing pics/prices so that's where I'm taking the price from.", "Hahaha. Imagine telling people that paying $10 meal in a hawker centre is affordable.\nThe warung here charges as low as RM4.", "For me RM10 for either lunch or dinner, though affordable, can be reduced further. Normal nasi lemak no chicken costs RM4, with chicken goes to RM8; chap fan in food court I usually make it to around RM8-9.\nGranted this is in Seremban so location will affect the prices", "huh.. when i went there in 2017 there were plenty of $2 cai png stalls, now no more? sad if thats the case...", "Yeah. $2 tasteless cai png. I'd rather not have that as my regular diet. I'd prefer eating 2 packets of Rm1 nasi lemak", "I agree. I'm not thinking of the view point of the pricing but the cultural, quality and choices we have. I've briefly stayed in Jakarta and I've summarised that if Street vendors were to be removed, it'll severely limit the society. And even tourism. I can't and don't want to imagine living in Malaysia without Street vendors" ], [ "This looks like a low cost housing area. Let them do their own thing. If residents of the area don’t like, then they can complain. People outside should just enjoy themselves on the food. Why want to be triggered just because you saw it if it doesn’t directly affect you in a significant manner?\nThat’s pretty Karen behaviour if Im being honest.", "Lol why are you defending something illegal? Do you have a stake in this? I literally live in the area and have to drive down this road nearly everyday so I have a bigger interest in this than you ever do. Good to know that being against causing all sorts of traffic and pedestrian inconveniences that very much affect me = Karen behavior lol.\n'let them do their own thing' -100% my motto for who people wanna sleep with in private not THIS lol.\nAs usual, telling people off for being rightfully indignant at something that is illegal and shouldn't even have happened in the first place. The entitled culprit now becomes the victim requiring your aid. This is why Malaysia is the way it is lol.", "NGL, you really do sound like a Karen right now.\n“Boohooo I have to drive down this B40 area everyday and be reminded poor people exist trying to make a living”.\nThere’s literally a big ass flat next to it in the photo. If the residents are troubled by it then they would’ve complained. Some probably have complained and the council are probably investigating.\nBut for a passerby to complain just cos they’re using the area as a passthru, while ignoring the local community who probably liked having an eating place near them, or who needed the parking for their livelihoods, well I’m not saying you’re wrong, but you sound very privileged.\nYou don’t like it just use another road, the ones who lived on that road probably wanted it that way for their convenience. Yeah they’re B40, but they still have a say on how their small piece of Malaysia is like. If they want it to be like shit, then so be it.\nIts a different story when its YOUR side of the public road.", "Before you come up with more fucking crazy hypotheticals without knowing even the layout of roads in the area to fit your laughable 'live laugh love and fuck any intervention' approach to addressing poverty that you claim to care about so much, know that this road is the only road connecting gombak and Taman Melati areas as well as LRT stations to Setapak, Sri Rampai, and the rest of KL to the southwest; the ONLY other way route being the MRR2 which is already plagued with traffic and red lights at exits as is. There is an LRT STATION right across the road from the warung so this is already a busy enough road without people illegally parking ON THE ROAD to have their lunch at illegal shacks with questionable hygiene.\nSo please stop trying to pretend you know better with your shit suggestion of 'just take another way' lol like please you're really embarrassing yourself the only thing more dangerous than an idiot is a loud idiot so yeah.\nWhen did I ever even bring up any disdain towards or want to punish b40 people lol like I just want less ILLEGAL obstructions both on the road and pavements FOR ALL USERS. How TF is that mutually exclusive with improving nearby residents' quality of lives? Dedicated PPR car parks can be built, pusat penjajas are literally built by DBKL for this exact reason, there are already TWO tapaks for stalls in a 1.5km radius in the area, AND ANOTHER INDOOR GERAI CENTER CURRENTLY NEARING 80% COMPLETION so your fucking 'live and let be' suggestion to all this is just downright moronic.\nNo need to piggyback off 'the B40 POoR' sentiment la you clearly don't gaf about them and just wanna selectively apply your dumb ass logic of 'keeping status quo leave them be' because sure as we know that is totally going to solve poverty!! Eh a farm providing jobs to 100+ ppl AND contributing to local food security gets bulldozed in the middle of nowhere but I don't hear the same 'BuT b40 LivELiHOoD' energy from you? Fuck outta here with your virtue signalling lol it's high-key disgusting to see.", "There are reasons why certain things are illegal. Biggest ones are safety and health.\nBesides being illegal, it's unfair to those who work hard to operate their businesses legally yet not as profitable or popular as an illegal one.", "Oh" ], [ "lol butthurters gonna butthurters, i prefer eating from tepi jalan, cheap and tasty not so much different from any kedai. you gonna butthurt over this, go ahead waste ur energy. butthurt on reddit waht change." ], [ "talk and report with local area authorities\ntalk with people around\nMaybe don't just straight up shit on someone because it cause slight annoyance to your daily life.\nI don't live in the area so I can talk shit to you however I want." ], [ "Sedap. I want to try. Op gives us the location." ], [ "They pay rent ?", "It's a public pedestrian pavement not an actual commercial plot/unit so what the fuck is there to be rented? Please la guna otak sikit.", "Council rent. Seems popular. Good on them I say. Hope they remain there", "Sureeee 'council rent'. Because the council rents out public pavements meant for pedestrians to 'entrepreneurs' right? Bro if you're actually not interested in proper discourse and are gonna pull misinformation and lies out of your ass, just do us all a favor and save the effort of typing anything!\nEven if we indulge your bullshit for a moment and it is HYPOTHETICALLY rented, how do you explain all those violations?", "So laku. Everyone seems happy." ] ]

[ "Culture" ]

[ [ "Used to work at site. Sometimes it's not the company that doesn't care. It's the workers themselves. Everytime I tell them to wear safety gear they reply \"panas la boss\".", "Very true, my cousin works as a site supervisor and he usually complains that his workers like to grumble when he tells them to wear safety equipment and in the end, they all never wear or even use the safety equipments the company provides. The usual reasons are “it’s hot”, “it’s cumbersome”, or “it’s pointless”. He told me they only wear it for about 2-3 days after an accident occurred, then they revert back to not wearing any safety equipments.", "Good safety officer will still make sure all wear their protective gears, panas or not.", "when they are all banglas paid cheap, who cares as long as the work is done. worst is some death, but how a non malaysian gonna win in court?", "", "Lol, the company usually provides adequate safety equipment based on the region, terrain, and condition of the work site. It’s the workers themselves that don’t listen to management when they are told to use the equipment they provide. Most do wear them before entering the site because they are required to pass a checkpoint that checks if the worker is wearing the complete equipment, but they will take them off once they are inside. The site supervisor can’t be there to monitor them round the clock lah, they also have meetings to attend, other parts of the site to visit and sometimes they need to go out and buy stuff for the site.\nI agree, some companies are scummy but when it comes to wearing the safety equipments itself, it’s usually the workers fault for only wearing it when entering the site and taking them off once they’re inside. The workers themselves are the ones that choose to not wear the equipments provided when working in the site or only wear them when the boss is near.", "I work offshore so I know how this works.\nNo you don't. You think they are the same as you? They have completely different backgrounds and upbringing. Yes, we do provide training, appropriate PPE, and enforcement. But guess what, they stop the moment you're out of sight. Give penalty too much, and the job won't get done or they quit. Find a replacement And you have to do the entire process again with a new hire.\nworse is when PPE missing or damaged.", "You can pay premium salary and local still don't want the job. Its several times gov try to encourage local to do 3ds job. Barely anyone stay to replace immigrants. Who don't mind working in harsh conditions because to them pay is great.\nThe industry is labour intensive. compare to Offshore work is mostly checking and making sure the rig in working conditions. The majority is automatic. So you can take your sweet as time with safety. (Unless you're working Offshore construction)", "While your company might not do checks and ask you to check on your own, some in malaysia do and my cousin told me its just a standard check, nothing where they will look at you in detail and your good to go, they wont call one by one, that would take hours to complete but there are people stationed at the entrance to stand and look at them as they enter.", "Offshore….no place to go,….on land, if you insist on PPE use on your construction …watch your workers move to another construction site.\nSeen this happen for decades, as well as many gung-ho safety officers replaced.\nSource: been in construction 30+ years" ], [ "No hard hats, safety glasses and harnesses. Disaster waiting to happen.", "What do you mean? The blue net will keep them safe and sound and cradle them like a mom's hug should they fall." ], [ "OSHA is the name of the Act.\nDOSH is the name of the regulatory agency.\nNIOSH is the name of the training body.\nSHO is the name of the trained person who is supposed to implement and monitor these. They are required by the Act to be employed by the construction company and to be working at site.", "Construction is under CIDB, isn't it?" ], [ "Blue collar workers, immigrants or not, are disposable to the eyes of Malaysian companies." ], [ "Nothing happens if nobody is reporting." ], [ "What do you do when the workers themselves don’t care?", "I like this attitude. Plus as a business I save a lot by not paying for the equipments. Spread on my man. Be the voice of the unlearned and the ignorant. Be loud! Be the tin can that we all need", "Still must buy the equipment and have procedures in place and awareness sign off. Otherwise won’t pass authorities audit. But if workers don’t care, there is really nothing we can do. But it helps the business lar", "Nah if you as a company dont provide then shits on you.", "Not just that, they need to accompate, educate and enforce. If not they are operating against the building permit already." ], [ "This is not an OSHA issue lah. Some workers are just insufferable. They will come up with excuses after excuses not to wear the safety equipment provided by the company or will only wear the equipments when there are checks done like before entering a site or when the boss wants to check on them.\nI agree some companies are scummy and do not provide adequate safety equipment for their workers but the majority do and it’s the workers that are stubborn. Some of the excuses are “it’s hot”, it’s cumbersome, or the worst “it’s pointless”. Most companies will penalise their workers if they don’t wear the proper attire and equipments but some just turn a blind eye to it when their workers start grumbling. I mean seriously, what can 20 malaysian workers do to fight against 50-100 foreign workers?. Even if they fight them on this, they will only wear it for 2-3 days and revert back to their normal behaviour.", "If it's one. It's a worker issue. If its two, it's management issue. You cannot push the blame to your workers when yiur company was the one who applied for the permit....", "While some companies are scummy and cut corners, not all do so. My cousin works for a construction company that provides and follows every guideline required for their workers to be safe. While a lot of foreign construction workers do follow the guidelines set by the company but some are really stubborn and practically do whatever they please. The company only has the option of terminating them and send them back. But when a whole group of these workers start to band together, the company can’t afford to dismiss soo many workers at one time considering they have to follow a schedule and timeline, so they just turn a blind eye. Not all foreign workers do this though and the lot that do follow guidelines usually are paid well and are generally treated well by their bosses." ], [ "Report to the authorities & cc Anwar" ], [ "Worked in a glove manufacturing factory for a bit with my dad, it was fucking terrifying.\nI was rocking full PPE, safety vests, steel boots, hard hat and everything. And I was there to check data and tweak some stuff with a small machine. The workers there are walking around and chilling with no worries at all, no hard hats and no vests." ], [ "Do they still use bamboo scaffolds ?" ], [ "They are immigrants, therefore many people don't care.", "We OSH workers actually do care. But they are just so adamant on not wearing PPE or follow SOP because of 'hassle'.\nJust because you see them doing stuff like this doesn't mean staff there don't care.", "Yup. Worked in manufacturing before. Workers don’t care about safety same reason as us folks not wearing goggles while cutting wood." ], [ "At least there’s a mesh covering the scaffolding, so I guess what happens at site stays at the site? 🤷🏻‍♂️" ] ]

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[ [ "Also, I just knew that Thailand is preparing to legalise same sex marriage..\nInteresting" ], [ "The most fucked up thing is that JAIS loves to get involved. Even Grindr is not safe to use in Malaysia. I heard stories of people being robbed by their \"date\" and JAIS using it as a ploy. Kepala Butuh. I just want to have a date with another person, I don't even kacau anyone, but that's the reality.\nImagine a Gay guy, hoping to live his dreams and meet someone sharing the same sexuality as him. The gay feeling empowered being able to come out of the closet only FOR FUCKING JAIS to Fucking ruin it. FUCK YOU JAIS. Bazir duit rakyat.\nWhat I do in the bedroom does not affect anyone else at all, yet you want to sibuk so much. What about child marriage? Marital rape? Domestic abuse? Tu tak tangkap pula. What about Suami Polygamy without the wife's permission? Tu tak tangkap pula. Kepala Butuh JAIS. Especially to people who pay taxes to increase quality of life.\nOur taxpayers are being used to target innocent people. Fuck you Kerajaan Madani. All government is the same. No fucking change. I hope one day KL will have local elections and a new Progressive Party Replaces DAP. DAP won't recognise LGBTQ+ rights. It's a male dominated party. And also, if they recognise, no Muslim vote for them.\nGoKL would be the party. It's liberal,pro business,pro welfare,neolibertarian, and will decriminalise Same sex acts in KL. The party takes huge inspiration from the Nippon Ishi No Kai 日本維新の会, Party in Japan, which is fiscally conservative but Socially Liberal.\nInshaAllah, one day, KL will be a thriving city where LGBTQ2IA can express ourselves freely🖤\nI wish I'd be able to see KL in Pride one day just one day. Sending hearts to all the queers and allies 🖤✌️\nAll in all, Merry Christmas and Happy Pride ❤️🧡💛💚💙🩵💜🖤", "PSM is also based enough to push lgbt rights and are ?kinda? more established (i dont even know what gokl is tbh, they don't show up on google for me?), altho obviously they're the opposite of fiscally conservative", "Yes. PSM is a party which stands for LGBTQ2IA+. GoKL is a small org advocating & upholding LGBTQ rights thru political means. KL is the only viable city to adopt a Decriminalisation of Same sex acts 🖤. One Day, KL will be a safe space for art,culture, expressions.\nGoKL was created by me personally. We are a support group but we support thru reddit,telegram. We don't have any socials to avoid JAIS,other religious vigilante. One day, I hope KL will have local elections and we'll be able to uphold basic rights of LGBTQ people not wanting to be oppressed and to be free. Most government just ignore lgbtq as if we don't exist. It's like being delusional. LGBTQ folks exist🖤.\nThanks so much for your support 🖤it means a lot for us 🖤", "damn keep fighting the good fight ig\naltho tbh I'm a bit more optimistic than you lol, only decriminalisation only in one city only in the distant future still sounds pretty bleak, I mean i dont think I've even met anyone my age here who's like genuinely homophobic lol (went to public school my whole childhood) and old people gotta die someday right", "Decriminalisation is first step :). Gotta start slow. Its gonna take a long time for Malaysia :) but hey, its worth fighting for :)", "Don't complain. Migrate. They'll see this as the pink worms squirming under the sunlight they cast." ], [ "I live in Perlis and about 4(6.4KM) Miles from me, Same Sex Relations is legal and now Marriage is on the table. Very effed up\nIf you were to be caught in Padang Besar making out same sex, you could be lashed and sent to LGBTQ rehabilitation camps. But if you just simply cross the border and make out at the Thai side of Padang Besar, perhaps more ladyboys and police there gonna join you.\nI know a person who goes to Phuket,Thailand just for grindr. I mean Phuket is definitely a good place as there's lots of foreign men on grindr and vacation.\nLike no need to go to Europe fot Blonde Dudes,just go to Phuket. They especially like small asian twinks." ], [ "Only 30%?", "Pretty logical. Most Malaysian LGBT are quite content with their life despite limitation.\nWhile the rest who were more inclined toward legal marriage, legal adoption would seek to move overseas.", "Grindr in Malaysia is not safe. Some criminal and even police use it for their advantage. Heard stories of friends hoping for a date but ended up being robbed and once I heard it was JAIS using it as a ploy. Very effed up world. Can't even let us fucking enjoy fucking. Why some people just want to get involved. Its my body having sex with someone else, what I do doesn't involve or hurt you one bit JAIS.", "What about orang Underage and Marital rape? Tu korang tak nak tangkap pula. Yang org LGBTQ love passionately kena tangkap, yang kena abuse,marital rape tu bebas je. Aku lah ish JAIS JAIS. Bazir duit rakyat." ], [ "gr" ], [ "Thailand will legalize same sex marriage so they can emigrate there. It’s sad to see Thailand becoming more progressive than Malaysia." ], [ "Go to Thailand" ] ]

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[ [ "well they are both from the same group of people. Orang Minang.", "Exactly Orang Minang is the majority in West Sumantra. Nasi Padang and Rendang are good in West Sumantra as well" ], [ "Minangkabau architecture.\nPlus, if you look back at the history of Negeri Sembilan, there was an influx of people from West Sumatra coming over, and that translated to the architecture and customs here in a way (look up Adat Perpatih).\nHeck even the early rulers of Negeri Sembilan came from West Sumatra and Raja Melewar iirc was the one that unified the nine different states of Negeri Sembilan into Negeri Sembilan. This back then included Klang, Segamat, Naning and Triang/Teriang." ], [ "As well as language. Sumatran no doubt is the origin where \"nismilan\" people came from. They bring along Bahasa Minangkabau. I remember met some people from Padang and they talk almost (not everything is similar) the same with our Nismilan people. But I can clearly understand them than Bahasa Indonesia", "Original padang language and nismilan language are as similar as chalk and cheese", "The original might sound like sunda and jawa n I never heard people speak that in my last visit. These days the language already transforms and likely they are more to bahasa melayu.", "Bahasa indonesia is easier to understand than padang too many odd words.\nSunda and jawa is in a totally different island in java, whilst padang is in sumatra.", "Sunda and Jawa is on the same island, java island." ], [ "As a West Sumatran myself I was pretty surprised to see how similar our cultures are with people from Negeri Sembilan. Before reading about Negeri Sembilan I thought most peninsular Malaysians are culturally Malay, it's pretty cool to know that we both come from the same people. Love to my Negeri Sembilan Brothers and Sisters from your cousin down south ✌️\nAlso do People in Negeri Sembilan speak Bahasa Minang? Or do they have their own dialect/speak BM?", "Most have assimilated into Malay culture and cannot speak Minang anymore. But some of them still keep their Minang behavior (Adat, etc.)", "They have their own Bahasa Melayu Negeri Sembilan. Not too difficult to understand to a Standard BM speaker I guess. A lot of Akhiran O and a sprinkling of Minang words.\n\"Ekau nak poie mano tu Jang? Den nak poie Somban\", - Where are you going, man? I am going to Seremban\"", "In minang it would be\n\" ang/kau nio pai kama tu jang? Den nio pai ka seremban\"", "How do the Sumatran Minang view their relationship with the Sumatran Melayu, from the perspective of ethnicity ?", "Well I'm not the best person to answer this since I grew up in Jakarta, but for me they're just another ethnic group who happens to also live in Sumatra. We're culturally different but we're still Indonesians at the end of the day, and I do like listening to their accent lol. Maybe someone here who grew up or lives in Sumatra might have a better answer to that question.\nEdit: Also this might be anecdotal, but my grandma who was born and raised in West Sumatra has a lot of Malay friends from Medan and Pekanbaru iirc, so I assume their relationship is not hostile or anything haha" ], [ "There are no surprises here. Pretty much the same group of people - Minang" ], [ "it's the pointy roof isn't it? I'm pretty good at these games.", "That or bull horn roofs. I'm good at these games too fellow challenger..." ], [ "Orang minang≠orang negeri.\nMy forefathers came straight from Bkt Tinggi and we still have contacts from our Minang cousins. Technically org negeri are descended from earlier Minang settlers+locals.I love n9 food the most, being of Minang descent myself.", "we still have contacts from our Minang cousins\nMereka tinggal di kabupaten/kota mana ya, kalo boleh tau?", "Uhh Bkt Tinggi, keturunan sebelah nenek . Not sure where exactly. Saya tidak pernah balik kesana. Sepupu saya dan dua pupu nenek masih balik melawat semasa Hari Raya.\nFunny thing about Minang. So my sister was so excited about going back for a visit and asked for the family tree (salasilah keluarga). Since we're descended from our father(lelaki), they(our cousins)said something along the lines of \"maka sampai sini akhirnya keluarganya (my father's name). They only counted the female descendants. So like the first daughter of my grandma then her daughter's daughter and so on 😅" ], [ "Waris" ], [ "I guess you could say, the West Sumatran and N.Sembilan architects were a horny bunch.", "That joke almost flew over my head." ], [ "Can Western Sumatrans get express Bumiputera status now" ], [ "Indonesia, Singapore, Brunei, Southern Thailand and Malaysia were made of the same group of people and are modern nations with borders shaped by colonisation, where groups of people are either separated from their kin or put together with different ethnicities.", "Interesting how much colonisation shaped the world today. West Malaysia is definitely more culturally similar and nearer to parts of Sumatra as compared to even Sarawak or Sabah especially to the indigenous groups there like Iban, Dayak, Kadazan yet Malaysia and Indonesia are what they are today because of British and Dutch rule", "Yup, people often forget that Sumatra and Peninsular were once part of the Hindu-Buddhist Srivijaya empire, while Java and the rest part of Indonesia were part of Majapahit. Regardless, the people of east coast of Vietnam, Southern Thai, and maritime SEA are descendant of the same group of people.", "I don’t know why you’re downvoted but it’s indeed fact that our modern borders are shaped through colonialism, especially the Anglo-Dutch Treaty of 1824.", "Yup, luckily we are grouped with non-warring groups, unlike in Africa, Afghanistan etc where Europeans have really fucked up.", "made of the same group of people\nGenetically, yes.\nReligiously and culturally, no.\nYour average Southeast Asian Muslim would never unite with the non-Muslims here, for religious reasons.", "I'm pretty much sure us Austronesian folks pretty much are stoked to get to know each other and welcome other Austronesians from other parts of the world." ], [ "Yessirrr, if you guys are interested in Minangkabau architecture please visit our NS state museum in Seremban! There's a historical Minangkabau house and \"istana\"(for some reason smaller, maybe it's a subsection) that you can actually enter and explore. The houses, built with traditional craftsmanship are well preserved and if I remembered correctly were actually moved from somewhere else to the museum site.\nNearby there's Seremban Gateway, but I'd recommend going to the old town area which is next to Pasar Besar Seremban. You'll find a lot of hidden gems, old businesses and restaurants in the old town area. A lot of old historical architecture as well. My favourite are Lingam curry house, Wah Tong confectionery and buying textiles/sewing products at the many craft stores there. Few years ago they added murals to the lorongs and quite a scenic walk too." ], [ "Not only architecture. They are literally the same people, separated by colonialism and imperialism" ], [ "Vernacular architecture, this one is the Minangkabau culture." ] ]

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