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Re: Pantheism & Environmentalism
In article <Apr.5.23.31.36.1993.23919@athos.rutgers.edu> by028@cleveland.freenet.edu (Gary V. Cavano) writes:
>I'm new to this group, and maybe this has been covered already,
>but does anybody out there see the current emphasis on the
>environment being turned (unintentionally, of course) into
>pantheism?
Yes.
(I am adamantly an environmentalist. I will not use styrofoam table service.
Please keep that in mind as you read this post - I do not wish to attack
environmentalism)
A half truth is at least as dangerous as a complete lie. A complete lie will
rarely be readily accepted, while a half truth (the lie subtly hidden) is more
powerfully offered by one who masquerades as an angel of light.
Satan has (for some people) loosened the grip on treating the earth as something
other than God's intricate handiwork, something other than that on which the
health of future generations is based. It is being treated with respect. You
think he's going to happily leave it at that? No. When one error is rejected,
it is his style to push people to the opposite error. Therefore the earth is
not God's intricate handiwork, not because it is rubbish, but because it is
God. Mother earth is the one you are to primarily love and serve.
I see two facets of a response to it:
1: Care for the environment. Treat it with proper respect, both because it is
God's intricate handiwork and the health of future generation, and because
showing the facet of one who is disregardful of such things does not
constitute what the Apostle Paul called "becoming all things to all men so
that by all possible means I might save some."
Don't say "Forget the environment, I've got important things to spend my time
on." - putting your foot in your mouth in this manner will destroy your
credibility in expressing the things that _are_ more important.
2: Show that it is not the ultimate entity, that it is creature and not
creator. Show that its beauty and glory points to a greater beauty and
glory. Show that it is not the ultimate tapestry, but one of many cords
woven in the infinite tapestry.
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# "God, give me mountains # "But the greatest # Jonathan Hayward #
# to climb and the # of these is love." # Jonathan_Hayward@wheaton.edu #
# strength for climbing." # I Corinthians 13:13 # jhayward@imsa.edu #
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Re: Monophysites and Mike Walker
Hello src readers,
Again the misconception that Copts among other Oriental Orthodox
Churches believe in Monophysitism pops up again. We had a discussion
about it a while ago.
In article <May.6.00.34.58.1993.15426@geneva.rutgers.edu> db7n+@andrew.cmu.edu (D. Andrew Byler) writes:
>
>The proper term for what Mike expresses is Monophysitism. This was a
>heresy that was condemned in the Council of Chalcedon in 451 AD. It
>grew up in reaction to Nestorianism, which held that the Son and Jesus
>are two different people who happened to be united in the same body
>temporarily. Monophysitism is held by the Copts of Egypt and Ethipoia
>and by the Jacobites of Syria and the Armenian Orthodox.
Then OFM comments :
>
>
>[These issues get mighty subtle. When you see people saying different
>things it's often hard to tell whether they really mean seriously
>different things, or whether they are using different terminology. I
>don't think there's any question that there is a problem with
>Nestorius, and I would agree that the saying Christ had a human form
>without a real human nature or will is heretical. But I'd like to be
>a bit wary about the Copts, Armenians, etc. Recent discussions
>suggest that their monophysite position may not be as far from
>orthodoxy as many had thought.
With my appreciation to the moderator, I believe that further elaboration
is needed. This is an excerpt from an article featured in the first issue
of the Copt-Net Newsletter :
Under the authority of the Eastern Roman Empire of Constantinople (as opposed
to the western empire of Rome), the Patriarchs and Popes of Alexandria played
leading roles in Christian theology. They were invited everywhere to speak
about the Christian faith. St. Cyril, Pope of Alexandria, was the head of the
Ecumenical Council which was held in Ephesus in the year 430 A.D. It was said
that the bishops of the Church of Alexandria did nothing but spend all their
time in meetings. This leading role, however, did not fare well when politics
started to intermingle with Church affairs. It all started when the Emperor
Marcianus interfered with matters of faith in the Church. The response of St.
Dioscorus, the Pope of Alexandria who was later exiled, to this interference
was clear: "You have nothing to do with the Church." These political motives
became even more apparent in Chalcedon in 451, when the Coptic Church was
unfairly accused of following the teachings of Eutyches, who believed in
monophysitism. This doctrine maintains that the Lord Jesus Christ has only
one nature, the divine, not two natures, the human as well as the divine.
The Coptic Church has never believed in monophysitism the way it was
portrayed in the Council of Chalcedon! In that Council, monophysitism meant
believing in one nature. Copts believe that the Lord is perfect in His
divinity, and He is perfect in His humanity, but His divinity and His
humanity were united in one nature called "the nature of the incarnate word",
which was reiterated by St. Cyril of Alexandria. Copts, thus, believe in two
natures "human" and "divine" that are united in one "without mingling,
without confusion, and without alteration" (from the declaration of faith at
the end of the Coptic divine liturgy). These two natures "did not separate
for a moment or the twinkling of an eye" (also from the declaration of faith
at the end of the Coptic divine liturgy).
The Coptic Church was misunderstood in the 5th century at the Council of
Chalcedon. Perhaps the Council understood the Church correctly, but they
wanted to exile the Church, to isolate it and to abolish the Egyptian,
independent Pope. Despite all of this, the Coptic Church has remained very
strict and steadfast in its faith. Whether it was a conspiracy from the
Western Churches to exile the Coptic Church as a punishment for its refusal
to be politically influenced, or whether Pope Dioscurus didn't quite go the
extra mile to make the point that Copts are not monophysite, the Coptic
Church has always felt a mandate to reconcile "semantic" differences between
all Christian Churches. This is aptly expressed by the current 117th
successor of St. Mark, Pope Shenouda III: "To the Coptic Church, faith is
more important than anything, and others must know that semantics and
terminology are of little importance to us." Throughout this century, the
Coptic Church has played an important role in the ecumenical movement. The
Coptic Church is one of the founders of the World Council of Churches. It has
remained a member of that council since 1948 A.D. The Coptic Church is a
member of the all African Council of Churches (AACC) and the Middle East
Council of Churches (MECC). The Church plays an important role in the
Christian movement by conducting dialogues aiming at resolving the
theological differences with the Catholic, Greek Orthodox, Presbyterian, and
Evangelical Churches.
[...]
As a final note, the Oriental Orthodox and Eastren Orthodox did sign
a common statement of Christology, in which the heresey of Monophysitism
was condemned. So the Coptic Orthodox Church does not believe in
Monophysitism.
Peace,
Nabil
.-------------------------------------------------------------.
/ Nabil Ayoub ____/ __ / ____/ /
/ Engine Research Center / / / / /
/ Dept. of Mechanical Engineering ___/ __ / / /
/ University of Wisconsin-Madison / / | / /
/ Email:ayoub@erctitan.me.wisc.edu _____/ __/ _| _____/ /
'-------------------------------------------------------------'
[As I mentioned in a brief apology, the comment quoted above from me
is confused. I appear to say that Nestorius was monophysite. As
Andrew Byler correctly stated it, the Nestorians and monophysites were
actually opposite parties. The point I was making, which Nabil
explains in some detail, is that some groups that have been considered
heretical probably aren't.
Chalcedon was a compromise between two groups, the Alexandrians and
Antiochenes. It adopted language that was intended to be acceptable
to moderates in both camps, while ruling out the extremes. I agree
that there were extremes that were heretical. However in the course
of the complex politics of the time, it appears that some people got
rejected who didn't intend heresy, but simply used language that was
not understood or even was mispresented. And some seem not to have
jointed in the compromise for reasons other than doctrine. There are
groups descended from both of the supposedly heretical camps. This
posting discussed the descendants of the Alexandrians. There are also
a remaining Nestorians. Like some of the current so-called
monophysites, there is reason to believe that the current so-called
Nestorians are not heretical either. They sheltered Nestorius from
what they saw as unfair treatment, but claim they did not adopt his
heresies, and in fact seem to follow more moderate representatives of
the Antiochene tradition.
--clh]
| 15soc.religion.christian
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Re: Certainty and Arrogance
Responding to the moderator:
>In article <Apr.14.03.09.07.1993.5494@athos.rutgers.edu> alvin@spot.Colorado.EDU (Kenneth Alvin) writes:
>>
>>Choosing what to believe and rely on are important areas of personal
>>sovereignty. What bothers me is when others suggest that, in these
>>matters of faith, their specific beliefs are not only true to them
>>but are absolute and should be binding on others. It follows from this
>>that God must give everyone the same revelation of truth, and thus
>>anyone who comes to a different conclusion is intentionally choosing
>>the wrong path. This is the arrogance I see; a lack of respect for the
>>honest conclusions of others on matters which are between them and God.
>
>[It is certainly reasonable to ask for some humility about our own
>ability to know the truth. There are also different paths in some
>areas of practice. But I'd like to see more clarification about what
>you mean when you reject the idea of saying "their specific beliefs
>are not only true to them but are absolute and should be binding on
>others." If something is true, it is true for everyone, assuming that
>the belief is something about God, history, etc....
Yes, I agree. What I'm trying to point out is that, in matters of faith
(i.e. tenets which are not logically persuasive), one may be convinced
of the truth of certain things through, for instance, personal
revelation. And its certainly fine to share that revelation or those
beliefs with others. And I don't think that its arrogant, persay, to
accepts matters of pure faith as truth for oneself. Where I think the
conflict arises is in assuming that, where disagreements on beliefs
arise, all others *must* have been given the same truth, and that God
must reveal His truth to everyone in such a way that all would
honestly agree. I think this can lead to the conclusion that anyone
who disagrees with you are being sinful or dishonest; that they are
rejecting something they *know* to be truth because it is inconvenient
for them, or because they wish to spurn God.
I would say that this is equivalent to assuming that *all* truths one
holds are universal and absolute. And the problem I see with this is
that it negates the individuality of humans and their relationships with
God. This does not mean there is no absolute truth; just that some areas
of doctrinal disagreement may be areas where God has not established or
revealed that truth.
--
comments, criticism welcome...
-Ken
alvin@ucsu.colorado.edu
[I agree with you. --clh]
| 15soc.religion.christian
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Division by zero error in JACK NICKALUS TOURNAMENT GOLF
I was playing this golf game and something interesting happened.
On the 7th hole, I drove the ball down the fairway, when the ball was
in mid-flight, the game completely froze. A couple seconds later, the
screen went completely black, with an error message in large "Bubble"
letters that said DIVISION BY ZERO. I thought it was funny considering
I am a computer programmer, and I had never seen an error like this on
an actual video game system like Sega or Nintendo (or even Atari or
Intellevision years ago). Oh yeah, after the message, there was also
what must have been an address, in hexadecimal. I forget the exact hex
code that was given. HAS THIS HAPPENED TO ANYONE ELSE??? It must have,
my game shouldn't have been the only one to do this.
Thanks
Randy
PSC
r_turgeo@oz.plymouth.edu
| 10rec.sport.hockey
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CALL FOR PRESENTATIONS: Navy SciViz/VR Seminar
CALL FOR PRESENTATIONS
NAVY SCIENTIFIC VISUALIZATION AND VIRTUAL REALITY SEMINAR
Tuesday, June 22, 1993
Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center
(formerly the David Taylor Research Center)
Bethesda, Maryland
SPONSOR: NESS (Navy Engineering Software System) is sponsoring a
one-day Navy Scientific Visualization and Virtual Reality Seminar.
The purpose of the seminar is to present and exchange information for
Navy-related scientific visualization and virtual reality programs,
research, developments, and applications.
PRESENTATIONS: Presentations are solicited on all aspects of
Navy-related scientific visualization and virtual reality. All
current work, works-in-progress, and proposed work by Navy
organizations will be considered. Four types of presentations are
available.
1. Regular presentation: 20-30 minutes in length
2. Short presentation: 10 minutes in length
3. Video presentation: a stand-alone videotape (author need not
attend the seminar)
4. Scientific visualization or virtual reality demonstration (BYOH)
Accepted presentations will not be published in any proceedings,
however, viewgraphs and other materials will be reproduced for
seminar attendees.
ABSTRACTS: Authors should submit a one page abstract and/or videotape to:
Robert Lipman
Naval Surface Warfare Center, Carderock Division
Code 2042
Bethesda, Maryland 20084-5000
VOICE (301) 227-3618; FAX (301) 227-5753
E-MAIL lipman@oasys.dt.navy.mil
Authors should include the type of presentation, their affiliations,
addresses, telephone and FAX numbers, and addresses. Multi-author
papers should designate one point of contact.
DEADLINES: The abstact submission deadline is April 30, 1993.
Notification of acceptance will be sent by May 14, 1993.
Materials for reproduction must be received by June 1, 1993.
For further information, contact Robert Lipman at the above address.
PLEASE DISTRIBUTE AS WIDELY AS POSSIBLE, THANKS.
Robert Lipman | Internet: lipman@oasys.dt.navy.mil
David Taylor Model Basin - CDNSWC | or: lip@ocean.dt.navy.mil
Computational Signatures and | Voicenet: (301) 227-3618
Structures Group, Code 2042 | Factsnet: (301) 227-5753
Bethesda, Maryland 20084-5000 | Phishnet: stockings@long.legs
The sixth sick shiek's sixth sheep's sick.
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc
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rejoinder. Questions to Israelis
From: Center for Policy Research <cpr>
Subject: rejoinder. Questions to Israelis
To: shaig@Think.COM
Subject: Ten questions to Israelis
Dear Shai,
Your answers to my questions are unsatisfactory.
In the answer to my first question, concerning the nonexistence of
Israeli nationality, your answer conflicts with information I have
received from other quarters, according to which there are two
distinct categories of classifying Israelis: Citizenship
(Ezrahut) and Nationality (Le'um). The former is used on passports
etc, and the later for daily identification in Israeli society. I
am told that people in Israel have to carry their ID cards at all
times and present them at many public places, almost every day.
These ID cards make clear who the holder is, a Jew or an Arab.
You maintain that this mainly because of religious services
provided. But do you really believe that this is the reason ?
Could you provide evidence that this is the case and that it
serves no other purpose ?
In the answer to my second questions, concerning the fact that
Israel has no fixed borders, you state that Israel's borders were
'shaped and reshaped by both war and peace'. According to what I
read, the first Zionists in the beginning of the Century, had
plans for the Jewish State to extend into what is Lebanon and into
Transjordan (Jordan). I also read that it was the express wish of
Ben-Gurion to not declare Israel's borders, when Israel was
established, as this might restrict Israel's opportunities for
later expansion. Israel often claims it right of existence on the
fact that Jews lived there 2000 years ago or that God promised the
land to them. But according to biblical sources, the area God
promised would extend all the way to Iraq. And what were the
borders in biblical times which Israel considers proper to use
today ? Finally, if Israel wants peace, why can't it declare what
it considers its legitimate and secure borders, which might be a
base for negotiations? Having all the above facts in mind, one
cannot blame Arab countries to fear Israeli expansionism, as a
number of wars have proved (1948, 1956, 1967, 1982).
Your answer to my third question is typical of a Stalinist public
official. I don't think your answer is honest. You refer me to
Vanunu's revelations about Israel's nuclear arsenal without
evaluating the truthfullness of his revelations. Now if he said
the truth, then why should he been punished, and if he lied, why
should he be punished? I would appreciate more honesty.
Somebody provided an answer to the fourth question, concerning
'hidden prisoners' in Israeli prisons. He posted an article from
Ma'ariv documenting such cases. It seems that such prisoners do
exist in Israel. What do you think about that ?
You imply that my questions show bias and are formulated in such a
way to 'cast aspersions upon Israel'. Such terms have often been
used by the Soviet Union against dissidents: They call the Soviet
Union into disrepute. If my questions are not disturbing, they
would not call forth such hysterical answers. My questions are
clearly provocative but they are meant to seek facts. I would be
very happy if you could convince me that what I am told about
Israel were just fabrications, but alas you have failed to do so.
I suspect that you fear the truth and an open and honest
discussion. This is a sign of weakness, not of strength.
I hope you will muster the courage to seek the full truth.
| 17talk.politics.mideast
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Re: CACHE or Micronics EISA/VLB Motherboard?
From article <1993Apr15.205654.20845@news.cs.indiana.edu>, by "Mohammad Al-Ansari" <alansari@mango.ucs.indiana.edu>:
>
> (CLIP) I am in
> the process of purchasing an EISA/VL Bus 486 DX2-66 computer
> (CLIP)
> The first is Ares and they use a Cache motherboard (that's
> the brand of the motherboard) with OPTI chip set, the other is Micron
> (formerly Edge Technology) and they use the Micronics EISA/VLB
> motherboard.
> (CLIP)
> I would REALLY appreciate any input on this. Is the Micron machine the
> clear choice? Does anyone know anything positive or negative about
> either company? Has anyone ever heard of Cache motherboards? Should I
> go with Micron just because it has the Micronics motherboard? etc.
>
> Thanks very much in advance for any information.
>
> --
> Mohammad Al-Ansari
Get back to your vendors, or better yet the board manufactures and get
some more info:
Where made.
Norton indexes (yeah I know BMs suck but whats a mother to do?)
number of slots, and types, # ESIA and # 32 bit?
Any IDE or SCSI on board?
How easy to upgrade RAM, location and # of pins.
OVERDRIVE?
Oscilator kits?
Does it have a 16550 UART?
Who's BIOS?
These might make you feel better about either system, but I must
agree that Ares with 7 days of 24 hr Tech and 2 year warranty is
encouraging.
________________________________________________________________
Terry Clark tclark@umaxc.uiowa.edu
You want an Opinion - You don't pay me enough for an Opinion
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
|
Re: New Study Out On Gay Percentage
In article <1993Apr17.024646.28396@news.cs.brandeis.edu>, st923336@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (BLORT! eeeep! Hwaaah.) writes:
> Wouldn't one expect more heterosexual men than gay men to be
> promiscuous simply due to a larger group of potential partners?
>
> Just a thought.
>
> -Matt
You might -- except that gay men are MUCH more promiscuous than
straight men -- which shows how damaged and screwed up gay men are.
--
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer My opinions, all mine!
Relations between people to be by mutual consent, or not at all.
| 18talk.politics.misc
|
Price cuts
I heard that the magic date for price drop in a number of Apple products
will
be
June 30th. Can anyone second this rumour?
--
A motion picture major at the Brooks Institute of Photography, CA
Santa Barbara and a foreign student from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
"The mind is the forerunner of all states."
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware
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Re: Trade rumor: Montreal/Ottawa/Phillie
In article <93095.210625MWEINTR@auvm.american.edu>, <MWEINTR@auvm.american.edu>
says:
>
>Also sprach slegge@kean.ucs.mun.ca ...
>
>>TSN Sportsdesk just reported that the OTTAWA SUN has reported that
>>Montreal will send 4 players + $15 million including Vin Damphousse
>>and Brian Bellows to Phillidelphia, Phillie will send Eric Lindros
>>to Ottawa, and Ottawa will give it's first round pick to Montreal.
>>
>>If this is true, it will most likely depend on whether or not Ottawa
>>gets to choose 1st overall. Can Ottawa afford Lindros' salary?
>>
>>Personally, I can't see Philli giving up Lindros -- for anything.
>>They didn't give away that much to Quebec just to trade him away
>>again. Not to mention that Lindros seems to be a *huge* draw in
>>Phillie -- and that he represents a successful future for the
>>franchise.
>>
>>Ottawa may be better off taking the 4 players +$15 from Montreal
>>for the pick.
>>
>>Stephen Legge
>>SLEGGE@kean.ucs.munc.ca
>
>Two things:
>
>1. Didn't the trade deadline pass two weeks ago?
>
>2. The FLYERS would never ever EVER give up Lindros, simple as that.
>
3. With Soderstrom and Roussel, why the hell would the Flyers want to
pick up an older and slumping Roy?
(BYW, I could come up with a group of players they'd trade for.... but
they wouldn't be from the same team.)
>Go Flyers, Cup in '94...
>
>Mike
>---
>***Yes-Rush-Marillion-ELP-Genesis-King Crimson-Dream Theater-Beatles***
>* Mike Weintraub, aka Jvi on IRC "Courageous convictions *
>* mweintr@american.edu will drag the dream *
>* jedi@wave.cerf.net into existence" *
>* The American University, Washington DC - Rush (NOT Limbaugh) *
>***Go Philadelphia Flyers, Vancouver Canucks & Philadelphia Phillies***
John E. Runski
<jer108@psuvm>
| 10rec.sport.hockey
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Infant Immune Development Question
As an animal science student, I know that a number of animals transfer
immunoglobin to thier young through thier milk. In fact, a calf _must_
have a sufficient amount of colostrum (early milk) within 12 hours to
effectively develop the immune system, since for the first (less than)
24 hours the intestines are "open" to the IG passage. My question is,
does this apply to human infants to any degree?
Thanks for your time responding,
Matthew Keeler
c599143@mizzou1.missouri.edu
| 13sci.med
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Re: was:Go Hezbollah!
In article <2BCF287A.25524@news.service.uci.edu>, tclock@orion.oac.uci.edu (Tim Clock) writes:
|
|> >In article <1993Apr16.130037.18830@ncsu.edu>, hernlem@chess.ncsu.edu
|> (Brad Hernlem) writes:
|> >|>
|> >|> In article <2BCE0918.6105@news.service.uci.edu>, tclock@orion.oac.uci.edu
|> (Tim Clock) writes:
|> >|>
|> >|> Are you suggesting that, when guerillas use the population for cover,
|> >|> Israel should totally back down? So...the easiest way to get away with
|> >|> attacking another is to use an innocent as a shield and hope that the
|> >|> other respects innocent lives?
|>
|> > Tell me Tim, what are these guerillas doing wrong? Assuming that they are
|> > using civilians for cover,
|>
|> "Assuming"? Also: come on, Brad. If we are going to get anywhere in
|> this (or any) discussion, it doesn't help to bring up elements I never
|> addressed, *nor commented on in any way*. I made no comment on who is
|> "right" or who is "wrong", only that civilians ARE being used as cover
|> and that, having been placed "in between" the Israelis and the guerillas,
|> they *will* be injured as both parties continue their fight.
Pardon me Tim, but I do not see how it can be possible for the IDF to fail
to detect the presence of those responsible for planting the bomb which
killed the three IDF troops and then later know the exact number and
whereabouts of all of them. Several villages were shelled. How could the IDF
possibly have known that there were guerrillas in each of the targetted
villages? You see, it was an arbitrary act of "retaliation".
|> > If the buffer zone is to prevent attacks on Israel, is it not working? Why
|> > is it further neccessary for Israeli guns to pound Lebanese villages? Why
|> > not just kill those who try to infiltrate the buffer zone? You see, there
|> > is more to the shelling of the villages.... it is called RETALIATION...
|> > "GETTING BACK"..."GETTING EVEN". It doesn't make sense to shell the
|> > villages. The least it shows is a reckless disregard by the Israeli
|> > government for the lives of civilians.
|>
|> I agree with you here. I have always thought that Israel's bombing
|> sortees and bombing policy is stupid, thoughtless, inhumane AND
|> ineffective. BUT, there is no reason that Israel should passive wait
|> until attackers chose to act; there is every reason to believe that
|> "taking the fight *to* the enemy" will do more to stop attacks.
|>
|> As I said previously, Israel spent several decades "sitting passively"
|> on its side of a border and only acting to stop these attacks *after*
|> the attackers had entered Israeli territory. It didn't work very well.
|> The "host" Arab state did little/nothing to try and stop these attacks
|> from its side of the border with Israel so the number of attacks
|> were considerably higher, as was their physical and psychological impact
|> on the civilians caught in their path.
The problem, Tim, is that the original reason for the invasion was Palestinian
attacks on Israel, NOT Lebanese attacks.
|> >
|> >|> What?So the whole bit about attacks on Israel from neighboring Arab states
|> >|> can start all over again? While I also hope for this to happen, it will
|> >|> only occur WHEN Arab states show that they are *prepared* to take on the
|> >|> responsibility and the duty to stop guerilla attacks on Israel from their
|> >|> soil. They have to Prove it (or provide some "guaratees"), there is no way
|> >|> Israel is going to accept their "word"- not with their past attitude of
|> >|> tolerance towards "anti-Israel guerillas in-residence".
|> >|>
|> > If Israel is not willing to accept the "word" of others then, IMHO, it has
|> > no business wasting others' time coming to the peace talks.
|>
|> This is just another "selectively applied" statement.
|>
|> The reason for this drawn-out impasse between Ababs/Palestinians and Israelis
|> is that NEITHER side is willing to accept the Word of the other. By your
|> criteria *everyone* should stay away from the negotiations.
|>
|> That is precisely why the Palestinians (in their recent PISGA proposal for
|> the "interim" period after negotiations and leading up to full autonomy) are
|> demanding conditions that essentially define "autonomy" already. They DO
|> NOT trust that Israel will "follow through" the entire process and allow
|> Palestinians to reach full autonomy.
|>
|> Do you understand and accept this viewpoint by the Palestinians?
|> If you do, then why should Israel's view of Arabs/Palestinians
|> be any different? Why should they trust the Arab/Palestinians' words?
|> Since they don't, they are VERY reluctant to give up "tangible assets
|> (land, control of areas) in exchange for "words". For this reason,
|> they are also concerned about the sorts of "guarantees" they will have
|> that the Arabs WILL follow through on their part of any agreement reached.
First, I believe that my statement applies to both sides.
Having said that, I think it is neccessary to separate what is legitimately
negotiable and what is not. For example, no country has the right to abuse
one's human rights. Deciding whether there will be one or two states in
Palestine is a legitimate question. While de facto one state exists, Israel
must treat all within its domain equitably.
|> > Tim, you are ignoring the fact that the Palestinians in Lebanon have been
|> > disarmed. Hezbollah remains the only independent militia. Hezbollah does
|> > not attack Israel except at a few times such as when the IDF burned up
|> > Sheikh Mosavi, his wife, and young son.
|>
|> While the "major armaments" (those allowing people to wage "civil wars")
|> have been removed, the weapons needed to cross-border attacks still
|> remain to some extent. Rocket attacks still continue, and "commando"
|> raids only require a few easily concealed weapons and a refined disregard
|> for human life (yours of that of others). Such attacks also continue.
Yes, I am afraid that what you say is true but that still does not justify
occupying your neighbor's land. Israel must resolve its disputes with the
native Palestinians if it wants peace from such attacks.
|> > Of course, if Israel would withdraw from Lebanon
|> > and stop assassinating people and shelling villages they wouldn't
|> > make the Lebanese so mad as to do that.
|>
|> Bat guano. The situation you call for existed in the 1970s and attacks
|> were commonplace.
Not true. Lebanese were not attacking Israel in the 1970s. With a strong
Lebanese government (free from Syrian and Israeli interference) I believe
that the border could be adequately patrolled. The Palestinian heavy
weapons have been siezed in past years and I do not see as significant a
threat as once existed.
Please, Tim, don't fall into the trap of treating Lebanese and Palestinians
as all part of the same group. There are too many who think all Arabs or all
Muslims are the same. Too many times I have seen people support the bombing
of Palestinian camps in "retaliation" for an IDF death at the hands of the
Lebanese Resistance or the shelling of Lebanese villages in "retaliation" for
a Palestinian attack.
|> Tim
| 17talk.politics.mideast
|
Booze it up, thus sayth the Lord!
Jeremiah:
25:27 Therefore thou shalt say unto them, Thus saith the LORD of
hosts, the God of Israel; Drink ye, and be drunken, and spue, and
fall, and rise no more, because of the sword which I will send among
you.
25:28 And it shall be, if they refuse to take the cup at thine hand to
drink, then shalt thou say unto them, Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Ye
shall certainly drink.
| 19talk.religion.misc
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How to detect mouse at hardware level?
'lo all,
I am writting a program that checks a computer for its configuration.
It's going to be run everytime a computer boots up to our campus
network. (Actually, it already is running, it's just not getting all
the info I want it to yet...) Anyway, I want to check for a mouse. I
already check for a mouse driver (using the code in Microsoft's Mouse
book). But there is no guarantee that the driver is loaded when my
program runs, or that they ever load the driver.
Since I am interested in what hardware is attached to the machine, how
do I detect is a mouse is attached? I know it can be done because the
mouse driver can do it.
Thanks in advance,
Andy
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Cleveland Freenet: bq274 | And a live flame will start.
Internet: aberkvam@spu1.uwsp.edu | -Robert Graves
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
|
wanted, how to do a screen dump of a VGA screen
How can one dump to the printer, the content of a VGA screen. If it were
a text screen, we can execute a shift printscr. but with graphics, we have
to do a pixed by pixel print. It would be greatly appreciated if someone can
supply source code for this. Alternately, are there commercial or shareware
programs that are available to do this. I must be able to shell out of my
program to execute this print screen. Therefore, it would be prefferable to have source code.
Thank you in advance
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| 1comp.graphics
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Re: harry and candy
>But I like the way he butchers Andres Galarraga's name.
Y'all lighten up on Harry, Skip'll be like that in a couple of years!!>
>It comes out like "gahlah rrrraggggah".
>And don't forget his frequent references to the great SF Giant star
>Bobby Bonds!
Harry's a great personality. He's the reason I like Cubs broadcasts.
(It's certainly not the quality of the team).
Chop Chop
Michael Mule'
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Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt0523e
Internet: gt0523e@prism.gatech.edu
| 9rec.sport.baseball
|
Need specs for a Western Digital IDE HD
A friend of mine needs spec for a used hard drive he just got:
It is a Western Digital, IDE, 340 meg
with 1010 cylinders and 12 heads. We believe the model number is
wd2340A, but we can't be sure. It is a 12 ms, 3.5" model.
Any info would be appreciated, either from somone who knows, or maybe
western digitals phone number
Thanks
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
|
Problem with displaying multiple color images simultaneously (X)
Hi all,
I have this program in which user can display many images one-by-one on the
display. Now I am trying to get the best poosible color allocation. So
each time I open a image, I try to allocate the colors reqd for that image
(approach similar to that used in xv by john bradley). The problem
comes when I try to display the next image. Now I have effectively tied
myself to the colors of the previous image. So the second image doesnot come
up in original colors.(i.e. the colors it would have shown, had it been
displayed first).
I know that I can display only 256 colors (or whatever depth of the display)
at a time. But I also dont want the color reproduction dependent on the
sequence in whihc you display the image.
So what is the best way out?
Please rewpond to vijay@iitb.ernet.in.
Thanks,
Vijay
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| 5comp.windows.x
|
Turbo C++ Visual Edition adn request was Re: absolute newbie questions...
In article <WIGGINS.93Apr16011654@buttercup.cs.odu.edu> wiggins@buttercup.cs.odu.edu (Samuel E Wiggins) writes:
>BTW, how would you rate the new "Borland Turbo C++ Visual Edition for
>Windows," anyone?
Time for a new discussion, maybe ? I asked in these groups some time ago
what about the TC++/VE, and got no answers, so I decided to try. My brother
who lives in the US bought and sent it to me, and I'm still trying to get
used to it.
Before I put my good/bad points list, consider I am a Turbo Pascal/DOS
programmer, and sometimes try to make something in Unix with C (just
some exercises from university). I used to make some programs in
Microsoft C version 5 (!!) because we used some third-party libraries
that required that.
- I like Borland. It seems to me much more easier to use than Microsoft,
specially the debugger. I tried to learn Codeview sometimes, but never
felt confortable with it.
- TC++ V/E seems very nice to create simple apps, like the examples on the
ObjectWindows book. So far, no problems. Lets see next week or so, when I
will try something more complex.
- It works nice even in my "weak" machine 386/16Mhz, 6 Mb Ram.
But.....
- The manual for the Resource Workshop seems to be from a different version
from the Workshop itself. Some of the windows that appear on the manual
have more itens than in the manual.
- I think I will run into trouble since I got this TC++/VE from my brother
as a present. I didnt wanted to buy the Japanese version because 1) I
suspect that the manuals will be in Japanese :-( and 2) I believe it
will be far more expensive here. So he bought it as a present and sent to
me, I send the registration card to the Japanese branch of Borland, but...
who knows.
So, I'd like to ask some questions for you all;
- I know that there are some Microsoft guys around here in this group. Is
there anybody from Borland ? Is there any e-mail address that we can
contact the technical support ? Not for stupid questions, but to ask
for example, why the RW manual seems to be different from the RW itself ?
- Is there anybody else using it around here ?
- Will the book of Petzold be useful for me ? I intend to use RW and ProtoGen
to make the interfaces and then work on the code itself.
Answers to my e-mail or comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools, please.
Thanks in advance,
Rafael.
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc
|
Running C++ EXE under Windows 3.1
Preface: I am a novice user at best to the Windows environment.
I am trying to execute a MS C++ 7.0 executable program which accesses a Btrieve
database to build an ASCII file.
When I execute it under windows the screen goes blank and my PC locks up. The only
way for me to return is to reset the machine.
Does anyone have any insight on what I may have to do in order for the program to
correctly under windows? (By the way it runs fine in DOS 5.0)
System: Gateway 486/DX250
ATI Graphics Ultra Card 640x480
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Rodger
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc
|
DOS6 & Novell Netware
I friend of mine installed dos6 at work and is hooked up to a Novell
network, running Netware 386 v.3.11. The problem he's having is that the
doublespace program is using drive 'h' as the swap drive, which is
confliting with the networks mapped drives.
Is there switch to place the swap drive to someother drive?
Please e-mail....thanks a bunch!!
--
Mahbub
cu826@cleveland.freenet.edu
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc
|
Re: triple des
Richard Lucock (rmal@jet.uk) wrote:
: I have seen various references to 'triple des' recently. Could anyone
: tell me what it is ? From context, I would guess that it means
: encrypting each block 3 times, with a different key each time, but
: I'd like to be sure.
: Replies by email preferred - our news is unreliable.
Could people replying to the above question post their responses here
as well, as I'm sure others (including myself) would like to hear them.
Thanks.
Jon
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# ee92jks@brunel.ac.uk # Poet, may'st not tell thy dreams?' | 1819
PGP 2.2 public key available upon request or by finger
| 11sci.crypt
|
Re: New Study Out On Gay Percentage
In article <philC5n6D5.MK3@netcom.com> phil@netcom.com (Phil Ronzone) writes:
#Tells you something about the fascist politics being practiced ....
Ah, ending discrimination is now fascism.
--
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USPS Mail: Astronomy Department, Charlottesville, VA 22903-2475 USA
Internet: gsh7w@virginia.edu
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| 18talk.politics.misc
|
Re: ESPN sucks: OT or Baseball? Guess which.
In article <C5tC87.Aty@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca writes:
: >Showing a meaningless (relatively) baseball game over the overtime of
: >game that was tied up with less than 3 seconds left on the clock?
What actually happened. After the Pens game, i turned to ESPN and the game
was nearly at the end of regular, then the phone rang. I turened off the
TV - later when i turned it back on, the Indians were on... Then a
little later, the hockey games was on again, then the baseball game...
what was actually on - not that it matters any more, but some hockey was
in deed on...
| 10rec.sport.hockey
|
So, do any XXXX, I mean police officers read this stuff?
I was just wondering if there were any law officers that read this. I have
several questions I would like to ask pertaining to motorcycles and cops.
And please don't say get a vehicle code, go to your local station, or obvious
things like that. My questions would not be found in those places nor
answered face to face with a real, live in the flesh, cop.
If your brother had a friend who had a cousin whos father was a cop, etc.
don't bother writing in. Thanks.
| 8rec.motorcycles
|
Re: CLINTON JOINS LIST OF GENOCIDAL SOCIALIST LEADERS
[snip]....
draughn@iitmax.iit.edu (Mark Draughn) writes:
>The President is not competent to plan or judge the planning of such a
>raid, nor does he need to be. His job is to set basic policies and
>manage the people under him. If Clinton instructed Reno to preserve
>lives, and if she confirmed that the plan for the raid was a safe as
>could be, then he did his job. The President should not involve
>himself in the minor details of these kinds of operations. This sort
>of micromanagement only leads to disaster, as was demonstrated so well
>in Vietnam.
>But the raid went bad: Over 80 civilians have been killed in a
>controntation with U.S. authorities.
>NOW Clinton enters the picture in a big way. Will Clinton start an
>investigation? Or will he try to squash any attempt to investigate?
>Is he a responsible leader? Or is he only interested in protecting
>the image of his administration?
>We'll all find out as this unfolds.
Excellent point, Mark. We should all remember that if Nixon
hadn't tried to cover up the misguided actions of some of his
subordinates in the Watergate burglary, the scandal would
never have brought down his presidency. So far, Klinton seems
to be stonewalling this the same way Tricky Dick did. His whole
case seems to be "we didn't do anything wrong". However, if
in the course of the investigation it turns out that the
gov't DID do something wrong, and he tried to cover it up,
then that's an impeachable crime, I believe...
Perhaps he is inadvertently cooking up his own scandal... Can you
say "Wacogate", little neighbor?... ;-)
*************************************************************************
* Ya know, this being part of the "loyal opposition" is kinda fun for *
* a change. I sure am glad I get to bitch about Clinton rather than *
* having to be one of those poor saps stuck trying to defend him. I *
* wonder how Michael Kinsley likes being part of the Establishment? :) *
*************************************************************************
Ken Whitehead (kdw@odin.icd.ab.com)
| 16talk.politics.guns
|
Re: Torx T-15 Screwdriver
In article <C5J2K2.2o94@austin.ibm.com> $LOGIN@austin.ibm.com writes:
>
>A while ago when I owned a Plus and wanted to upgrade its memory, I just ordered
>the toolkit from Macwarehouse for something like $9. It included an anti-static
>wrist strap, the clamp used to split the clamshell case, and the Torx
>screwdriver. They might not be selling it anymore, but give 'em (and any other
>company that sells memory upgrades suitable for a Plus-style box) a call. I'll
>bet that they still offer the kit. Next day air is usually the shipping method
>used, too!
I'm told that some of these companies often sell a plastic, throw
away after one use, version of the Torx driver, so ask before you buy...
Michael
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| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware
|
Changing M/T oil on M89 Maxima?
Hello again, another question. :)
I just got my hands on 2 quarts of ReadLine Gear Oil (at $7 a quart)
now I need to know how to throw it into my car.
I own an 89 NIssan Maxima Se, any Ideas?
Can I mix the Oil in there with this stuff, or should I drain first, then
only use this stuff.
If you know where (if there is one) the drain plug on the manual transmission
on the Maxima is, I would really appreciate any comments.
Also have any of you Maxima owners, thied this stuff in your cars?
Thanks in ADV.
Sammy
| 7rec.autos
|
Re: Crypto papers on the net.
In <16BB91429.C445585@mizzou1.missouri.edu> C445585@mizzou1.missouri.edu (John Kelsey) writes:
> I've recently been reading a paper of Merkle's (publixhed only on the
>net, I think) discussing three potential replacements for DES. Was
>anyting ever done with these? Are Khufu, Khafre, and/or Snefru still
>being discussed anywhere? (I know Snefru is referenced in the RSA
>FAQ, and I think it may also be in the sci.crypt FAQ.)
The paper was distributed (against the wishes of the NSA - I have a copy
with a few 'illicit distribution' footnotes scribbled on it :-), and eventually
published at one of the crypto conferences. Things were looking good.
Then Xerox patented the algorithms. <Plonk!>
I don't know of anything which uses them. Also, Khafre was broken at a
later conference and from work on a related algorithm I don't think the
existing Khufu would hold up too well against a converted differential
cryptanalysis attack, although it can probably be changed to resist this
type of attack....
Peter.
[In case you don't know what the <Plonk> is about, check _The New Hacker's
Dictionary_. It's the sound someone makes when they fall to the bottom
of a killfile]
| 11sci.crypt
|
Re: Rawlins debunks creationism
In article <1r15rvINNh8p@ctron-news.ctron.com>, king@ctron.com (John E. King) writes:
|>
|>
|> adpeters@sunflower.bio.indiana.edu (Andy Peters) writes:
|>
|> >> Macroevolution is
|> >> a mixture of 15 percent science and 85 percent religion [guaranteed
|> >> within three percent error :) ]
|>
|> >Bullshit. This is true only under your ad hoc assertion that only
|> >religion can explain origins. The history of life through
|> >macroevolution is a falsifiable theory. If you think it's not, then
|> >make some substantial argument against it.
|>
|> "The modern theory of evolution is so inadequate that it deserves to be
|> treated as a matter of faith." -- Francis Hitching
|>
|> Jack
|>
Barp! Logic alert! Just because the modern theory of evolution is, in the
view of Francis Hitching (please provide a date for that reference) highly
inadequate it doesn't mean that we have to turn to god(tm) and believe an
old book. Please read the FAQ.
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| 0alt.atheism
|
Re: WACO: Clinton press conference, part 2
Did anyone else notice how the question of what federal
laws were violated was brushed aside? I'd like to know
what laws were violated, and on what evidence the orignial
BATF warrants were based.
| 16talk.politics.guns
|
Re: Observation re: helmets
maven@mavenry.altcit.eskimo.com (Norman Hamer) wrote:
>
> Grf. Dropped my Shoei RF-200 off the seat of my bike while trying to rock
> it onto it's centerstand, chipped the heck out of the paint on it...
Gravity. It'll never let you down, er up, er...
Lesson: Put your helmet on the ground or your head. If you put it on the
ground, it isn't gonna fall down _to_ the ground. If you put it on your
head, well...
tom coradeschi <+> tcora@pica.army.mil
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea -- massive,
difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind-
boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it."
--gene spafford, 1992
| 8rec.motorcycles
|
Re: Once they get your keys....
In article <930424031634.176183@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL> Grant@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL (Lynn R Grant) writes:
>About 50 people so far have asked, "Once the FBI gets your Clipper keys,
>won't they be able to read all your future and past traffic?"
>
>There has been no response from NIST, NSA, Ms. Denning, Mr. Hellman, or
>anyone else who might be able to give us an authoritative answer.
>This is troubling.
The proposal could be modified so that if they get a court order to tap you
and don't charge you with a crime within, say, 90 days, they have to buy you
a new phone.
If they do charge you, and you are found innocent, they have to buy you a
new phone.
:-)
David
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our information, errors and omissions excepted.
| 11sci.crypt
|
food-related seizures?
SP> From: paulson@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (Sharon Paulson)
SP> to describe here. I have a fourteen year old daugter who experienced
SP> a seizure on November 3, 1992 at 6:45AM after eating Kellog's Frosted
SP> Flakes.
SP> Well, we were going along fine and the other morning, April 5, she had
SP> a bowl of another Kellog's frosted kind of cereal, Fruit Loops (I am
SP> When I mentioned what she ate the first time as a possible reason for
SP> the seizure the neurologist basically negated that as an idea. Now
SP> after this second episode, so similar in nature to the first, even
SP> he is scratching his head.
There's no data that sugar-coated cereals cause seizures. I haven't
even seen anything anecdotal on it. Given how common they are eaten
- do you know any child or adolescent who *doesn't* eat the stuff? -
I think that if there were a relationship we would know it by now.
Also, there's nothing weird in those cereals. As far as the brain
is concerned (except for a few infantile metabolic disorders such as
galactosemia), sugar is sugar, regardless if it is coated on cereal,
sprinkled onto cereal, or dissolved in soda, coffee or whatever.
There was some interest a few years ago in aspartame lowering
seizure thresholds, but I don't believe anything ever came of it.
---
. SLMR 2.1 . E-mail: jim.zisfein@factory.com (Jim Zisfein)
| 13sci.med
|
How do I make GhostScript work?
What files do I need to download for GhostScript 2.5.2? I have never used
GhostScript before, so I don't have any files for it. What I *do* have is
gs252win.zip, which I downloaded from Cica. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to
work on it's own, but needs some more files that I don't have. I want to run
GhostScript both in Windows 3.1 and in MS-DOS on a 386 PC (I understand there's
versions for both environments). What are all the files I need to download and
where can I get them? Any info would be appeciated.
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| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc
|
Re: How to the disks copy protected.
Kuo-Sheng (Kasey) Chang (kschang@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu) wrote:
> The program is definitely backupable, if restored to the same machine (depends
> on the programmer... don't use a disk drive characteristic!) If the user
> did an upgrade to the machine, he/she should reinstall all programs any way.
> No document look-up, no disk wear-and-tear!
This is not a good idea.. I upgraded my motherboard last fall. I
would have been quite pissed at any software that would have forced me to
reinstall simply because I changed motherboards.
Any info in the BIOS is too volatile to use as a checksum. Are you
going to require that a user re-install all their software if they add 4Mb
of RAM to their computer? I did that a couple of weeks ago. It's in the
BIOS, and if software had told me "this isn't the machine you installed me
on" I would never have used that software again. Really bad idea.
> I did not say that the originals would allow only one install. The user's
> conscience should do that.
This is silly. It's much easier to loan disks to a friend and let
them do an install than to backup your copy already on disk, and then give
them that. Your scheme isn't going to stop anyone.
> You know how many bytes you need to change in X-wing to disable
> the quiz? TWO! Yes, TWO! (And don't ask me which ones they are.)
Do you know any assembly language at all? All anyone needs to do if
find the part of the code that does the quiz, and insert a JMP instruction
to just completely skip it. Not that difficult, really! And there is very
little that commpanies can do to stop this type of thing. Using PKLITE or
some similar utility would help, but only if the resulting compressed .EXE
were tagged as uncompressable.
> What I believe the companies should do is implement the above plus
> a special patch once the user registers that loudly exclaims upon bootup
> "REGISTERED TO XXXXX -- address, city, state zip" and disables the above.
This is by far the best idea you presented in your post. Making it
plainly obvious who registered is going to stop casual pirates. But, the
determined ones are just going to answer "Joe Blow" to the question of
"what's your name" so this won't stop them in the long run.
Pirates are always going to win this fight. They simply have more
time to work on the software and figure out the protection scheme.
--
Steve Madsen
sjmadsen@nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu
Ask me about Linux, the free 386 unix!
| 12sci.electronics
|
What we learned from the Waco wackos
There are actually a few important things we can glean from this mess:
1) When they start getting desperate for an answer to the question: "What's
it all about. Mr. Natural?", pinkboys will buy darn near *anything*, which
means:
2) There's still plenty of $$$$ to be made in the False Jesus business
by enterprising SubGenii. Just remember that:
3) Once you've separated the pinks from their green, don't blow it all
on automatic weapons from Mexico. Put it in a Swiss bank account. Smile a
lot. Have your flunkies hand out flowers in airports. The Con will just
shrug you off as long as:
4) You never, never, NEVER start to believe your own bulldada! If
"David Koresh" hand't started swallowing his own "apocalypso now" crap, he'd
be working crossword puzzles in the Bahamas today instead of contributing to
the mulch layer in Waco. This is because:
5) When you start shooting at cops, they're likely to shoot back. And
most of 'em are better shots than you are.
In short:
- P.T. Barnum was right
and
- Stupidity is self-correcting
Thus endeth the lesson.
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| 19talk.religion.misc
|
Re: Israeli Terrorism
cy779@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Anas Omran) writes:
|>(Tim Clock) writes:
|>>(Amos Shapira) writes:
|>>>(Anas Omran) writes:
|>
|>>>Eh???? Could you please give me details about an event where a "Neutral
|>>>Observer" was killed by purpose by an Israeli soldier?
|>
|
|There are many cases, but I do not remeber names. The Isralis shot and killed
|a UN observer in Gaza in the first half of Intifada.
That doesn't answer my question: Can you give a proof that it is an official
policy of any Israeli government to kill "neutral observers" or UN personel
or others like them?
I wasn't sure that your original statement was wrong and was prepared to
recieve proofs that you are right (since I don't follow the events closely).
Your last response made me pretty damn sure that at least YOU can't give such
a proof, and you made your original statement without much ground to put it
on.
|I believe that most of the world has seen pictures of Israeli soldiers who
|were breaking the cameras of the reporters, kicking reporters out,
|confiscating
|cassettes, and showing reporters militery orders preventing them from going
|to hot areas to pick pictures and make reports.
Even if it's true (and in this case I'd take it without asking you to prove it)
it is still far from killing reporters. Also whenever that happened I'll bet
it happened as individual actions by certain soldiers and not as a policy of
the government (e.g. see the Hawara case where a colonel was sentenced for
giving orders to kick Arabs, as far as I remember).
Bye,
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C.S. System Group, Hebrew University, | but absolute power is better!"
Jerusalem 91904, ISRAEL |
amoss@cs.huji.ac.il | -- the Demon to his son
| 17talk.politics.mideast
|
Re: Sphere from 4 points?
bolson@carson.u.washington.edu (Edward Bolson) writes:
>Boy, this will be embarassing if it is trivial or an FAQ:
>Given 4 points (non coplanar), how does one find the sphere, that is,
>center and radius, exactly fitting those points? I know how to do it
>for a circle (from 3 points), but do not immediately see a
>straightforward way to do it in 3-D. I have checked some
>geometry books, Graphics Gems, and Farin, but am still at a loss?
>Please have mercy on me and provide the solution?
It's not a bad question: I don't have any refs that list this algorithm
either. But thinking about it a bit, it shouldn't be too hard.
1) Take three of the points and find the plane they define as well as
the circle that they lie on (you say you have this algorithm already)
2) Find the center of this circle. The line passing through this center
perpendicular to the plane of the three points passes through the center of
the sphere.
3) Repeat with the unused point and two of the original points. This
gives you two different lines that both pass through the sphere's
origin. Their interection is the center of the sphere.
4) the radius is easy to compute, it's just the distance from the center to
any of the original points.
I'll leave the math to you, but this is a workable algorithm. :-)
An alternate method would be to take pairs of points: the plane formed
by the perpendicular bisector of each line segment pair also contains the
center of the sphere. Three pairs will form three planes, intersecting
at a point. This might be easier to implement.
-Steve
spworley@netcom.com
| 1comp.graphics
|
The Old Key Registration Idea...
Okay, let's suppose that the NSA/NIST/Mykotronix Registered
Key system becomes standard and I'm able to buy such a system
from my local radio shack. Every phone comes with a built in
chip and the government has the key to every phone call.
I go and buy a phone and dutifully register the key.
What's to prevent me from swapping phones with a friend or
buying a used phone at a garage sale? Whooa. The secret registered
keys just became unsynchronized. When the government comes
to listen in, they only receive gobbledly-gook because the
secret key registered under my name isn't the right one.
That leads me to conjecture that:
1) The system isn't that secure. There are just two master keys
that work for all the phones in the country. The part about
registering your keys is just bogus.
or
2) The system is vulnerable to simple phone swapping attacks
like this. Criminals will quickly figure this out and go to
town.
In either case, I think we need to look at this a bit deeper."'jbl)mW:wxlD2
| 11sci.crypt
|
Re: page setup in Notepad
In <1993Apr13.200508.5167@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> krh@cbnewsh.cb.att.com writes:
> I often use Notepad to view and print "read.me" type files. I often find
> myself rushing to get to Print Manager to stop the printer and delete
> the file from the print queue because I've forgotten to reset the print
> margins from .75 inches (left and right) to 0 inches. The resulting printed
> text looks all chopped up because of the hard returns in the source file.
>
[...]
I struggled with the margin problem for ages as well, until I
finally got hold of the shareware binary editor BEAV133, and dug into
NOTEPAD.EXE (there is no SETUP facility to force NOTEPAD to default to
0.0 margins- it's hardwired into code!!!).
Do a SEARCH for ".75", then change the offending bytes to ".00",
et viola. Who are the guys who hardcode these "options" anyway?
I'm interested in whether the problem only rears it's ugly head for
certain printers- I'm using an old Epson LX-800 (or is that EX-800? never can
remember).
aloha.
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc
|
Re: Is it good that Jesus died?
In article <1993Apr22.213142.6964@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
brian@lpl.arizona.edu (Brian Ceccarelli 602/621-9615) writes:
To you, it shouldn't matter if you do evil things or good things. It is
all meaningless in the end anyway. So go rob a bank. Go tell someone
you dislike that he is a dirty rotten slime bag. What's restraining you?
Generally, reciprocation.
| 19talk.religion.misc
|
Re: Who's next? Mormons and Jews?
My apologies. I really didn't have the time to chase down a slew of
references from 10-20 years ago when I was looking at these issues.
>The mother church of Jerusalem disappeared when the Romans took the city.
>Despite some pious legends, the evidence seems to be that the members of
>the church died fighting the Romans during what they believed to be the
>last days. We know that certain Apostles had nicknames connecting them to
>Jewish terrorist groups. For the average inhabitant of the Roman Empire
>(especially after centuries of political instability and terror), the
>Roman policies in Palestine were heartily approved of. When studied with
a
>knowledge of cult psychology, Acts is eerily familiar, especially today.
1. The mother church did disappear at the time of the Roman attack. James
the Just was judicially murdered a few years earlier, but there is
evidence that the church survived him. There is no evidence that it still
existed after the assault on the city. The individuals historically
associated with that church disappear at that time.
2. The followers of Jesus included a number of individuals whose nicknames
suggested connections with the Jewish terrorism of the time (Zealotes,
Iscariot, "Sons of Thunder").
3. For cult psychology, there's an extensive literature.
4. For an understanding of the motivation of the members of the Jerusalem
church, there is a mixed collection of sources. The Anchor Bible has some
interesting articles, but one thing I've noticed about biblical
scholarship is that intellectual honesty and a skeptical approach are
notably lacking. You basically have to spread your net wide and then
winnow. (For example, Allegro and Schoenfeld have some interesting ideas,
but they were both "over the top.") Many interesting ideas have not been
followed up, mostly due to religious reasons. What was the connection of
early Christian theology to Samaritan dualism and proto-gnosticism? (See
Stephen's speech in Acts for a Samaritan interpretation of the
crucifixion.) Schweitzer's interpretation of Jesus's motivations could be
updated, especially now that we have the Essene and Chenoboskian
materials. And so it goes. (For instance, the convincing statistical
evidence concerning the authorship of the Pauline materials has been
completely ignored by biblical scholars.)
I don't track this area much any more. (My coursework is 20 years old.) I
have a personal theory that the synoptics were written in Syria during the
course of the Jewish Revolt. I suspect Mark was written before the fall of
Jerusalem as an apology to get the Romans and Roman-sympathizers off the
back of the local Greek Christians. Matthew and Luke were written with
similar goals, but incorporating additional materials. Given the evidence
in the Gospel of Thomas (Chenoboskien), I suspect Q came from a Samaritan
(proto-gnostic) milieu. In any case, they were written in an environment
cut off by time or circumstances from Jerusalem, not expecting further
contact, and not wanting to be connected by outsiders to the themes of the
doctrines held by the Jerusalem church.
Sorry about the lack of documentation, but the time is hard to find.
--
Harry Erwin
Internet: erwin@trwacs.fp.trw.com
Have found some interesting work...
| 19talk.religion.misc
|
Re: Centris 610 flaky?
In article <C5yDqC.6JK@cs.uiuc.edu> scott@cs.uiuc.edu (Jay Scott) writes:
[story about dealing having problems w/C610's deleted]
>So, what does the net think? Did the dealer just get one flaky
>machine, or did Apple send the C610 out the door too early?
>Is your C610 working just great, or is it buggy too?
I've had my C610 for about six weeks now with no problems whatsoever.
It's been "customized" with---
* replaced the Apple-Quantum 80 drive with a Connor 212 drive.
* installed a Tandberg SCSI tape drive in the internal bay which works
just fine (though Apple doesn't seem to be supplying front panel
bezels w/ a standard 5.25" cutout...).
It's hooked up to an Apple LaserWriter Plus and has no printing
problems at all, tested printing complex Photoshop graphics.
It has expanded VRAM and extra 8 meg SIMM, no problems.
So in sum, I have no idea what this dealer is complaining about.
-Fred
--
Fred Martin | fredm@media.mit.edu | (617) 253-7143 | 20 Ames St. Rm. E15-301
Epistemology and Learning Group, MIT Media Lab | Cambridge, MA 02139 USA
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware
|
Re: The Role of the National News Media in Inflaming Passions
Theodore A. Kaldis writes:
#> Ah, I know women who wear miniskirts without wearing underwear, and
#> they are not prostitutes.
#No, I suppose they must be sluts.
Nope. They both are very nice women, whom I'm good friends with.
Or do you think its ok to rape anyone when you don't like the way they
dress?
#> Gee, Both Clayton and Kaldis engaging in ad hominem arguments.
#Where?
Calling someone names, as you did. Are you ignorant of what an ad
hominem argument is?
#You provided absolutely no evidence, chump.
I provided a quote from the judge. What else do you want?
--
-Greg Hennessy, University of Virginia
USPS Mail: Astronomy Department, Charlottesville, VA 22903-2475 USA
Internet: gsh7w@virginia.edu
UUCP: ...!uunet!virginia!gsh7w
| 18talk.politics.misc
|
Re: Societal basis for morality
In article <merlyn.735422443@digibd> merlyn@digibd.digibd.com (Merlyn LeRoy) writes:
>Prayer in school is legal; what is illegal is telling children
>what to pray, or not to pray. Many people confuse "you can't
>tell kids that they ought to pray now" with "kids aren't allowed
>to pray", possibly because so few kids do so without being told.
Or perhaps it's because they think that all governmental bodies should be in
the business of suppressing all beliefs other than their own, or else they're
some sort of Satanic Humanist Conspiracy.
It's the old "if you're not for us you're against us" bit.
-EMP
| 19talk.religion.misc
|
Re: "Cruel" (was Re: <Political Atheists?)
In article <1qnpe2INN8b0@gap.caltech.edu>, keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider) writes:
|> livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes:
|>
|> >>They spent quite a bit of time on the wording of the Constitution.
|> >I realise that this is widely held belief in America, but in fact
|> >the clause on cruel and unusual punishments, like a lot of the
|> >rest, was lifted from the English Bill of Rights of 1689.
|>
|> Just because the wording is elsewhere does not mean they didn't spend
|> much time on the wording.
In the part of the posting you have so helpfully deleted, I
pointed out that they used the wording from the English Bill of
Rights apparently *changing* what they understood by it, and I
asked why then should we, two hundred years later, be bound by
what Keith Allan Schneider *thinks* they understood by it.
|>
|> >>We have already looked in the dictionary to define the word. Isn't
|> >>this sufficient?
|> >Since the dictionary said that a lack of mercy or an intent to
|> >inflict injury or grief counted as "cruel", sure.
|>
|> People can be described as cruel in this way, but punishments cannot.
So one cannot say "a cruel fate"?
Your prevarications are getting increasingly unconvincing, I think.
jon.
| 0alt.atheism
|
Re: Waco survivors 1715 19 April
In article <C5sEGz.Mwr@dscomsa.desy.de> hallam@zeus02.desy.de writes:
>The people who do not want gun control must obviously discount the entire
>government story. This is simply rationalisation. It is not enough for
>them to simply dismiss the government as incompetent. That would require
>them to come up with a solution themselves. Instead they have to come
>up with a government conspiracy theory whereby the government decided to
>set out to murder 80 people just to set up some sort of scare to alow them
>to get gun control legislation through.
What's despicable is that this sordid incident is being glommed onto by all
sorts of people desperately trying to "get a revolution." It makes
"ambulance chasing" by lawyers seem like a harmless pastime.
For the last few months, benighted souls have been calling C-SPAN on issues
as mundane as budget resolutions, saying that "I don't know, I just have
the feeling there is going to be a revolution in this country," and so on.
Get real! For a real case study in revolution, go to Blockbuster Video
and check out "Underground," a film made about the Weather Underground in
the 70's. Even with all the strife back then, the "revolution" never did
come. And Waco is supposed to be the spark of the end times?
In the tape, it is interesting to see the way the Weatherpersons dance
around the issue of one of their defining moments, which was when a few
of their comrades managed to blow themselves up manufacturing bombs in
a Greenwich village townhouse. The problem, one of them said, was that
they were so caught up in their armed struggle that they *forgot* about
their own personal safety and weren't "careful." But of course that was
*society's* fault, a society that didn't instill a sense of worth in
the people, so they neglect their own safety.
Current apologists for Koresh may pick up some important rationalization
tips from this tape!
---
Joe Knapp jmk@cbvox.att.com
| 18talk.politics.misc
|
Re: Homosexuality issues in Christianity
Dan Schaertel,,, (dps@nasa.kodak.com) wrote:
: In article 15441@geneva.rutgers.edu, loisc@microsoft.com (Lois Christiansen) writes:
: |>You might visit some congregations of Christians, who happen to be homosexuals,
: |>that are spirit-filled believers, not MCC'rs; before you go lumping us all
: |>together with Troy Perry.
: |>
: Gee, I think there are some real criminals (robbers, muderers, drug
: addicts) who appear to be fun loving caring people too. So what's
: your point? Is it OK. just because the people are nice?
The point is not about being "nice." "Nice" is not a christian virtue. The
point is that the gifts and fruits of the spirit (by their fruits you shall
know them- Mt 7:20) are manifested by and among prayerful, spirit-filled
GAY christians. It was the manifestation of the spirit among the gentiles
that convinced Peter (Acts 10) that his prejudice against them (based on
scripture, I might add) was not in accordance with God's intentions.
: I think the old saying " hate the sin and not the sinner" is
: appropriate here. Many who belive homosexuality is wrong probably
: don't hate the people. I don't. I don't hate my kids when they do
: wrong either. But I tell them what is right, and if they lie or don't
: admit they are wrong, or just don't make an effort to improve or
: repent, they get punished. I think this is quite appropriate. You
: may want to be careful about how you think satan is working here.
: Maybe he is trying to destroy our sense of right and wrong through
: feel goodism. Maybe he is trying to convince you that you know more
: than God. Kind of like the Adam and Eve story. Read it and compare
: it to today's mentality. You may be suprised.
Of course the whole issue is one of discernment. It may be that Satan
is trying to convince us that we know more than God. Or it may be that
God is trying (as God did with Peter) to teach us something we don't
know- that "God shows no partiality, but in every nation anyone who fears
him and does what is right is acceptable to him." (Acts 10:34-35).
revdak@netcom.com
| 15soc.religion.christian
|
Re: ARMENIA SAYS IT COULD SHOOT DOWN TURKISH PLANES
In article <1993Apr20.131336@IASTATE.EDU>, oyalcin@IASTATE.EDU (Onur Yalcin) writes:
|> In article <1993Apr19.234534.18368@kpc.com>, henrik@quayle.kpc.com writes:
|> > In article <C5qu5H.1IF@news.iastate.edu>, oyalcin@iastate.edu (Onur Yalcin)
OY] Henrik (?),
OY] Your ignorance manifests itself in an awkward form of intransigence. I'm not
OY] going to spend time to review with you the recent history of Cyprus.
Good !! Go back to your references and read it over and over ...
OY] If you are really interested, I can provide you with a number of references
OY] on the issue. Just send me EMail for that.
You think I am that STUPID to ask you for REFERENCES ! NOT !
I have many GREEK friends that I could ask for the INFO if I
needed. I have already read many articles and DO NOT need
your help. Boy, how generous !!
OY] Relax! You're swinging fists into open air... I was *agreeing* with you,
OY] assuming that would be one of your points that you did not state! You may
OY] not be very much used to it, to be agreed with - that is, but take it more
OY] easily. !:-)
Believe me, I am so relaxed ...
henrik] However, I hope that the Armenians WILL force a TURKISH airplane
henrik] to LAND for purposes of SEARCHING for ARMS similar to the one
[OY] No, Henrik, believe me: You don't hope that.
IF Armenia is goint to do that, then so be it.
henrik] that happened last SUMMER. Turkey searched an AMERICAN plane
henrik] (carrying humanitarian aid) bound to ARMENIA.
OY] Was that after or before one French plane changed its route to avoid
OY] inspection???
All I am saying is that the plane that was SEARCHED was an
AMERICAN and why Turkey DID NOT TRUST the U.S. that it was
mainly HUMANITARIAN AID CARGO.
| 17talk.politics.mideast
|
Re: Is it good that Jesus died?
In article <C62Ar1.LDt@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>, arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu
(Ken Arromdee) wrote:
>
> In article <1993Apr25.194144.8358@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> brian@lpl.arizona.edu (Brian Ceccarelli 602/621-9615) writes:
> >Even though a new-born is innocent as can be, his sinful nature
> >will surely manifest itself more explicity as he gets older.
>
> Ah, so you admit newborns are innocent? Then you cannot say _everyone_ is a
> sinner.
>
> About the only way top get out of this one is to claim that a newborn is a
> sinner despite having not committed any sins, which is rather odd.
This all would also implicate that in order for the sinning 2 month
old baby to get forgivance, he or she has to ask for help from Jesus.
Somehow I find this a little bit amuzing.
Cheers,
Kent
---
sandvik@newton.apple.com. ALink: KSAND -- Private activities on the net.
| 19talk.religion.misc
|
Re: Tools Tools Tools
WHAT IS THE FLANK DRIVE EVERYONES TALKING ABOUT?
| 8rec.motorcycles
|
Re: Data of skull
>Hi, We are trying to develop a image reconstruction simulation for the skull. The problem we are having is that we cannot obtain 3D data for the skull. We can just video a rotating skull, but that will only give us 2 dimensions.
>Anyone out there got any suggestions?
Yup, you can get a skull contained in the Cyberware_demo from the
following location:
In order to get the Cyberware_demo via ftp do the following:
1) ftp taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil
2) login as anonymous, guest as the password
3) cd pub/dabro
4) binary
5) get cyberware_demo.tar.Z
Once you get the demo onto your workstation:
1) uncompress cyberware_demo.tar.Z
2) tar xvof cyberware_demo.tar
The skull data is called 'phred' and resides in the data directory.
george dabro
dabro@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil
--
george dabrowski
Cyberware Labs
dabro@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil
| 13sci.med
|
engagement ring give up
Diamond engagement ring. 14k gold band. 33point diamond. appraised at
1900 dollars. Will sell for 600 dollars. Appraisal available upon request.
send e-mail to yb025@uafhp.uark.edu
| 6misc.forsale
|
Re: Atheists and Hell
|> Imagine the worst depth of despair you've
|> ever encountered, or the worst physical pain you've ever experienced.
|> Some people suffer such emotional, physical, and mental anguish
|> in their lives that their deaths seem to be merciful. But at least
|> the pain does end in death. What if you lived a hundred such lives,
|> at the conclusion of one you were instantly reborn into another?
|> What if you lived a million, a billion years in this state?
|> What if this kept going forever?
>Did this happen to Jesus? I don't think so, not from what I heard. He lived
>ONE DAY of suffering and died. If the wages of sin is the above paragraph, then
>JESUS DIDN'T PAY FOR OUR SINS, DID HE?
This is something I've always found a little curious. I've never quite understood
the trinity thing. On the one hand, Jesus is supposed to be God incarnate. But,
at the same time, he is God's son "For God so loved the world that he gave his
only begotten son". First question is, if Jesus was God in human form, how could
he really be God's son? If the Holy Ghost "planted the seed" in Mary, so to speak,
then it seems that Jesus' relationship to God would be the equivalent to the
human father/son relationship. While a son might inherit alot of the father's
qualities, he is not the father. They are still two separite entities. To try
and say that a son is the same person as the father is obviously wrong. In that
case, Jesus and God aren't the same. On the other hand, if their relationship
isn't the same as the human father/son relationship, but Jesus is actually God
incarnate, then he's not really God's son and he never was. He's just God
manifesting himself as Jesus. At least, this is how I'm seeing it. Can someone
who is more knowledgeable about the trinity enlighten us?
Getting back to the original question, what is the great price that Jesus paid
to redeem our sins? Was it dying on the cross? Since Jesus knew that he would
rise again in 3 days and then ascend back to heaven, I have a hard time seeing
how this is considered paying such a great price for humanity. His earthly body
may have been killed, but then, so what? He suffered a few hours of physical
pain, but then, there has been many a human who has suffered a great deal more.
The fact that Jesus was God's only begotten son doesn't seem to me to have much
meaning since God can beget as many sons as he wants to. Jesus being the only
one was simply a matter of choice. I suspect that these questions will be very
offensive to many Christians on this net. To those people, please accept my
sincere apologies. It is not my intention to offend or to trivialize Christ.
But, I do believe these are legitimate questions and I am genuinely curious.
[Note that the Trinity and Incarnation have to be looked at together.
First, your reading of the Virgin Birth is an uncommon one. (In this
group, it's dangerous to say that no one believes something.) You
seem to be suggesting the Jesus is God's son in a physical sense,
with the Holy Spirit as Father and Mary as Mother. I consider that
terrible heresy, though some people react less violently. The Virgin
Birth says that Jesus' birth is God's responsibility. But it doesn't
imply that God's sperm was involved. Indeed one (though by no means
the only) speculation is that God used Joseph's genetic material.
Second, Jesus is in some sense doubly indirect from the Father. In a
Trinitarian context, the term Son refers to the eternal Logos, who is
a part of God. The Son didn't come into existence with Jesus' birth.
Jesus is the incarnation of the Son. So his sonness isn't
specifically a result of being incarnated. Rather, it's the Son
who was incarnated.
--clh]
| 15soc.religion.christian
|
Re: ATF BURNS DIVIDIAN RANCH - UPDATE
In article <C5y36B.8MG@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine) writes:
>
>For me, though, the black soot billowing outside the compound added with
>how fast the fire spread ponted to *someone* dousing large parts of the
>compound with some sort of gasoline or fire-starter.
Just from experience, seeing a couple of houses burn down, one doesn't
need any accelerant to get a lot of black soot. There's plenty of
stuff in a house that will burn 'dirty'. Even the asphalt shingles
would make a really sooty smoke.
Al
[standard disclaimer]
| 16talk.politics.guns
|
Voltage Multiplier Problem.
Hi,
I've just built a valve preamp and use a diode/capacitor
voltage multiplier to step the 12vAC supply voltage up to approx
260vDV. As the load resistance increases, the RC constant decreases
and hence the output voltage drops. I need as high an output
voltage as possible. (about 260v).
The circuit consists of seven voltage multiplier stages
(ie 14 diodes and 14 capacitors) each capacitor develops about 38v
across them, and I take the output from across seven capacitors=260v.
Each capacitor is 100mfd at 68v.
If I increase each of the capacitors rating (220-470mfd), that will
increase the RC constant, and hence alleviate some of the problem.
These capacitors are going to be a little expensive as I need 14 of
them, So:
1. What would happen if I connected a 470mfd at 400v capacitor in parallel
with the output (and hence in parallel with the seven 100mfd capacitors)?
Will it, as I assume, increase the C in circuit and hence increase
the RC time constant? If it does, and my output voltage becomes more
stable by doing this, then I will have killed two birds with one stone...
as I am experiencing some 50Hz ripple (and hence amp hum), and this new
capacitor will 'smooth' this out.
and
2. Can anyone recomend a suitable value for an inductor (choke) to
be placed in the output line of the power supply to filter out
the 50Hz mains hum. Lowest resistance possible !
I've not got my preamp with me at the moment because it is TOO MUCH
of a distraction.... (I'm at university and I've got to get my
dissertation finished in two weeks !!!!!!!) hence I'm mailing not
playing with my solderoing iron (it'll be cheaper too in the long
run... especially if 14 new large capacitors don't work as planned!)
Email please.... Can't always read the net.....
Thanks in advance..
Chris ;-)
+====================================================================+
|Name : Mr Chris Smith | Twang on that 'ole guitar ! |
|Addrs: scst83@uk.ac.liv.csc | |
|Uni : Liverpool University |Quest: To build more and more hardware |
|Dgree: Computer Science | |
+====================================================================+
"What ever the sun may be, it is certainly not a ball of flaming gas!"
-- D.H. Lawrence.
* All views expressed are my own, and reflect that of private thought. *
| 12sci.electronics
|
More on stupid media
I just heard on CNN that the Texas Rangers found an M60 machine gun
in the BD compound Rubble. The newscaster called this a new hi-tech
military weapon! HA HA!! I would bet that it is that Rock Armory
M60 semi-auto, or that it was leagally owned and the tax was paid.
What year was the M60 patented?
Just showing you how the media is twisting the facts,
Josh
| 16talk.politics.guns
|
Re: Who's next? Mormons and Jews?
In article <204l02tO40sf01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>, agr00@ccc.amdahl.com (Anthony G Rose) writes:
=>I don't necessarily agree with Pat Robertson. Every one will be placed before
=>the judgement seat eventually and judged on what we have done or failed to do
=>on this earth. God allows people to choose who and what they want to worship.
=
=I'm sorry, but He does not! Ever read the FIRST commandment?
I have. Apparently you haven't. The first commandment doesn't appear to
forbid worshipping other gods. Yahweh's got to be at the top of the totem
pole, though.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL
Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
| 19talk.religion.misc
|
Re: Driver's Seat "best cars of the year"
tomh@metrics.com (Tom Haapanen) writes:
>The Golf also won AJAC's (Automobile Journalists' Association of Canada)
>1993 Car of the Year award.
And unless I am mistaken (I screwed up my borrowed VCR and got the first 2
minutes :-), the Corrado SLC was awarded AJAC's Sports (Sporty?) Car of the
Year..
Mattias
>--
>[ /tom haapanen -- tomh@metrics.com -- software metrics inc -- waterloo, ont ]
>[ "stick your index fingers into both corners of your mouth. now pull ]
>[ up. that's how the corrado makes you feel." -- car, january '93 ]
--
Mattias Hembruch
>> My views do not necessarily reflect those of the TSE. <<
E-mail: mhembruc@tse.com
| 7rec.autos
|
Problem with dni and openwin 3.0
Can anyone help me?
I am having a problem displaying images greater than 32768 bytes from a
Decwindows program running on a Vax 6310, and displaying on a Sparc IPC
running Openwindows 3.0 and dni. The program works fine with Openwindows 2.0.
The code segment which fails is given below, the program simply crashes
out with an Xlib I/O error at the XPutImage() call.
XImage *ximage;
ximage = XCreateImage(myDisplay, DefaultVisual(myDisplay, myScreen),
ddepth, ZPixmap, 0, image,
xwid, ywid, 8, 0);
XPutImage(myDisplay, myWindow, myGC,
ximage, 0, 0, xpos, ypos, xwid, ywid);
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
| Paul Jaques |
| Systems Engineer, Camborne School of Mines, |
| Rosemanowes, Herniss, Penryn, Cornwall. |
| E-Mail: pjaques@csm.ac.uk Tel: Stithians (0209) 860141 Fax: (0209) 861013 |
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
| 5comp.windows.x
|
Re: .GIF to .BMP
saz@hook.corp.mot.com (Scott Zabolotzky) writes:
>Does anybody have any idea where I could find a program that can
>convert a .GIF image into a .BMP image suitable for a Windows
>wallpaper (i.e. 256 colors). Hopefully there's something out there
>I can get from an ftp site somewhere...
>Thanks in advance...
>Scott
Scott --
look on ftp.cica.indiana.edu for gws.....zip. They embed the release
number in the name, and I'm not sure what the lates is. It is Graphics
Workshop. There is a DOS and a Windows version. Both work Great. I even
had someone bring me some images from the Amiga, and converted them to
great looking wallpaper as 256-color .BMP files
If you can't find it, repost, or let me know, and I'll dig up the archive.
dave
--
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dave Campbell | WynApse
WynApse |
wynapse@indirect.com | The Shareware Custom Control Source
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc
|
Re: How to detect use of an illegal cipher?
>As for my impressions of the whole scheme It seems that instead of trying to
>ban strong crypto, they are trying to co-opt it. Their contention that they
>need to keep the algorythm secret to protect the security of the key
>registration suggests possible inherent weakness to the algorythm. More likely
>is that they dont want anyone constructing black market devices which dont
>have the keys registered. Anyone else notice that in their Q&A session, they
Preventing black market chips w/non-escrowed keys IS exactly what they
mean by protecting the security of the key escrow system. There are
two parts to the security of such a system:
(a) Preventing decruption by unauthorized personel
(b) Assuring that the gummit can always decrypt clipper
traffic when it authorizes itself to do so.
Of course, the ministry of propoganda will do a lot of tallking about
(a) and very little about (b).
rob boudrie
rboudrie@chpc.org
ps: Anyone care to guess what encryption scheme the gov't is using on
its newly formed database of anarch-cryptists who oppose this entire
lunacy?
| 11sci.crypt
|
Re: Leafs vs Wings
In article <94233@hydra.gatech.EDU> gtd597a@prism.gatech.EDU (Hrivnak) writes:
>In article <1993Apr22.133739.11317@mks.com> chuck@mks.com (Chuck Lownie) writes:
>>Potvin by the way has played very well. He kept Toronto in the game
>>last night during those 5 penalties in the first period by making great
>>saves, but they did end up getting to him in the second.
>
> The guy has a GAA of 6.00 in the playoffs, and he's "played very
>well"??? Hahahahahaa. What a joke.
>
Did you watch the games????
--
| 10rec.sport.hockey
|
Does God Love You?
I simply wish to thank Dave Mielke (dave@bnr.ca) for sharing the
tract concerning God's love. It was most welcome to me and a great
source of comfort.
Carol Bocher
| 15soc.religion.christian
|
Is this overreaction?
jhan@debra.dgbt.doc.ca (Jerry Han) writes:
>As one of the happily sleeping people, I would just like to ask this->
>aren't people just slightly overreacting to this? Or are we all of a
>sudden going to draw parallels to Nazi Germany and Communist Russia?
>
>The point of the matter is that; yes this is a serious problem. But it is
>not the end of the world. Guess what? We're doing something now you
>can't do in a Communist country or Nazi Germany. We're complaining about
>it, (or rather, you're complaining about it) and nobody is shooting at us.
We would like to keep it that way. Thats the point. By reacting
strongly and forcefully now, we will assure that we continue to remain
free. You cannot overreact to a threat like this. The worst that
happens if we overreact is that we waste time and effort. The worst that
happens if we underreact is tyranny. I prefer overreaction myself.
>GUESS WHAT PEOPLE? You live in one of the few countries in the world
>where a person can complain without getting shot at.
Doesn't that tell you how precious and hard to maintain freedom is?
Only through centuries of overreaction have we managed to maintain
ourselves in this state of even moderate freedom. I suggest that
overreacting now and in the future is a good thing.
--
Perry Metzger pmetzger@shearson.com
--
Laissez faire, laissez passer. Le monde va de lui meme.
| 11sci.crypt
|
Internet resources
exit
| 14sci.space
|
Re: Why Is Tax Evasion Not Considered Unpatriotic?
In article <C4vy56.C0t@newsserver.technet.sg> ipser@solomon.technet.sg (Ed Ipser) writes:
>In article <1993Mar31.185128.5668@pmafire.inel.gov> cdm@pmafire.inel.gov (Dale Cook) writes:
>>In article <1pasrg$ife@s1.gov> lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich) writes:
>>>
>>> The title is self-explanatory; Isaac Asimov once pointed out
>>>that curious fact.
>>
>>Well, since tax evasion is illegal, one generally would not bother to
>>consider whether it was unpatriotic or not. How often does one think
>>of murder as being unpatriotic?
>>
>>Perhaps a more appropriate question would be "why is tax *avoidance* not
>>considered unpatriotic?". The answer to this is simple. Tax avoidance
>>is simply defined as paying the minimum tax you are legally obligated to
>>pay.
>
>There is a deeper reason. Taxes, by their very nature, are un-American.
>One need only look at the birth and history of the US to see this fact.
Wasn't the beef with the English over "taxation WITHOUT REPRESENTATION",
not taxation itself?
From my admittedly dim recollection of US history, most of the problems
we Americans have had with taxes have been with unfair/unjust taxation
schemes, not with taxes themselves. It's pretty hard to run a government
without any means of support.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
...Dale Cook "Any town having more churches than bars has a serious
social problem." ---Edward Abbey
The opinions are mine only (i.e., they are NOT my employer's)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
| 18talk.politics.misc
|
Pink Noise
What is Pink noise and how is it used in sound experiments?
-tony
wayne@uva386.schools.virginia.edu
| 12sci.electronics
|
Re: Tools Tools Tools
In article <1993Apr5.165548.21479@research.nj.nec.com> behanna@phoenix.syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna) writes:
> While we're on the subject, has anyone else noticed that the 1/2" deep
>well in Craftsman's $60 SAE deep well set is too small to fit a 1/2" bolt or
>nut?
>
> When I took the socket in for an exchange, EVERY !#%@ one of the 1/2"
>deep well sockets on the rack had the exact same problem!!! Looking into the
>socket, it appears that Craftsman's toolmaker attempted to imitate flank drive
>on this piece, but did not account for the extra clearance needed inside the
>socket.
Never had any problem with mine...
Are you *SURE* the nut/bolt you are trying is really a 1/2" hex? 13mm
is just slightly larger... and a 1/2 wrench won't fit on a GM 13mm
nut (my 91 GMC pickup has several 13mm nuts on it... really annoying, metric
threads too. Seems that most of the body is metric, most of the engine is
SAE).
--
--=< Jonathan Lusky ----- lusky@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu >=--
\ 89 Jeep Wrangler - 258/for sale! /
\ 79 Rx-7 - 12A/Holley 4bbl /
\________67 Camaro RS - 350/4spd________/
| 8rec.motorcycles
|
Re: Radio stations
In article <ragraca.735252641@vela.acs.oakland.edu>, ragraca@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Randy A. Graca) writes:
> greanias@texas.mitre.org (Steve Greanias) writes:
>
>
>
> > I do not have cable and on the nights the Caps don't play, I
> >would like to tune in other games. Does anyone have a list of
> >the radio stations which broadcast the games for the NHL teams?
>
>
> > Thanks in advance
>
> I can give you a couple. In Detroit, WJR (760) will be broadcasting
> at least the first couple of games of the Wings-Toronto series, and
> since they broadcast at 50000 Watts, you may be able to pick it up
> after dark where you are at. The Pittsburgh Penguins games used to be
> broadcast on KDKA 1020, but I don't know whether they will be pre-empted
> by baseball (and moved to another station) or not. You can try those
> if the local baseball teams aren't playing at the same time, anyway.
>
> --Randy
>
KDKA has first rights to Pirates games, and will split probably 50-50
in conflicts; for Penguins games which are preempted, check out
102.5 WDVE FM (that's right, DVE). It is also 50,000 watts.
Kevin L. Stamber
Purdue University
no funny .sig today
| 10rec.sport.hockey
|
Monitor, add on card, Apple IIe computer
I need to sell the following items:
an Apple IIe computer
includes:
300 baud modem
80 columns
Zenith green monitor
tons of software and manuals
controller & I/O card
a Western Digital WDAT-440
includes:
Winchester controller
Floppy controller
2 serial ports
parallel port
No docs, but jumper settings are printed on the card.
An AAMAZING 1024x768 .28 dot pitch SVGA monitor
interlaced 14" unlimited colors
includes:
Documentation
power cord and connecting cable
Must sell these items by May 4. Make me an offer on any of them.
-Cliff Kaminsky
cliff@engin.umich.edu
| 6misc.forsale
|
Re: Best Radar Detector - VALENTINE-1?
In article <1993Apr22.204921.12644@convex.com> tobias@convex.com (Allen Tobias) writes:
>In article <1993Apr21.190251.14371@sequent.com> troy@sequent.com (Troy Wecker) writes:
>>
>
>Each Valentine 1 is hand tuned to maximum performance is all the radar bands
>of coverage, this of course, adds to the labor cost and in turn the cost of the
>unit.
>
>I live in the backyard of the folks who make the Stalker radar system. The
>Valentine 1 has saved me many, many, many times from the stealth revenue
>enhancement traps of the local area. I have had all the major brand detectors,
>and, IMHO, nothing else even comes close to the V1!
>
>I don't work for Valentine, I am just a satisfied user of their unit!
>
>If you really want the nitty gritty details on all this, call the nice folks
>at Valentine Research. They will be more than happy to explain their
>perspective on radar detection and analysis methods.
>The calls free 1-800-331-3030.
>
>AT
>
It seems that there are more and more "bands" available for
police radar each month. I have recently purchased (within
the last 8 months) the BEL 966STW. While it is not a perfect
detector by any means, it does do the job fairly well.
Now, however, I pick up a car magazine at the airport and
read about this Super Ka Wideband which is a superset of
the Ka Wideband that this latest generation of detectors
was touted as covering.
So now BEL has a NEW series of detectors out that cover all
the usual bands (X, K, Ka photo, Ka wideband) as well as the
new Super Ka wideband.
Just as there comes a point of diminishing returns when chasing
increased PC computing power with faster and faster CPUs (for
the average home consumer, at least), it seems that there is
now the same concern with radar detectors. Does it make sense
to upgrade just 8 months after purchasing my "new" detector?
Is Valentine upgrading their equipment? If so, it might be
worth it for me to upgrade to the Valentine. I was in the
market for a Valentine when I purchased the BEL but the
3-4 month waiting time was just too much for me since I had
inadequate protection with my Passport. Life was much simpler
when there was just X and K band and Escort has the best
equipment on the market and there was no need to continuously
shop for a new detector. I hope that the flood of new radar
bands ceases with this new Super Wideband business.
>
> \|/
> #######
> / ~ ~ \
> |[0]---[0] |
> ===============================| |===================================
> _|___ |_| ___|_
> (_____) Allen Tobias Technical email: (_____)
> (_____) Convex Computer Corp. Marketing tobias@convex.com (_____)
> (_____) 3000 Waterview Parkway (_____)
> (___) Richardson, TX 75083 (___)
> =====================================================================
> "No one cares how much you know until they know how much you care!"
>
--
David W. Hwang, M.D. [david@ganglion.ann-arbor.mi.us]
| 7rec.autos
|
Re: How hot should the cpu be?
christopher kushmerick (kushmer@bnlux1.bnl.gov) wrote:
: How hot should the CPU in a 486-33 DX machine be?
: Currently it gets so hot that I can not hold a finger on it for more than
: 0.5 s.
I seem to recall that 486s run somewhere close to the boiling point of water.
Anyone have an exact temperature?
Anyway, putting a CPU fan/heat sink on it won't hurt and could help. Depends
on how paranoid you are...
--
Damien Neil dpn2@po.cwru.edu "Until someone debugs reality, the best
Case Western Reserve University I can do is a quick patch here and there."
CMPS/EEAP Linux -- the choice of a GNU generation. -Erik Green
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
|
Hot-key for Screen Saver?
Is there a hot-key for the Windows 3.1 screen saver utility? If not, is
there an easy way to create one? The reason that I need one is that my
dad's company is anal retentive about leaving a computer while the
information can be accessed so the employees are not allowed to walk away
from the computer until the screen saver kicks in (as if that is terribly
secure). Also, the system manager won't let any software be added so
another program such as LOCK32.ZIP from cica or a different screen saver
is out.
Thanks for any and all help.
--
Chris Putnam (still a Blue Devils lover at heart)
Euphonium/Baritone
Star in '93???
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc
|
Re: Does someone know what is the news group for IEEE.
In <1993Apr19.192953.22874@usl.edu> yxy4145@ucs.usl.edu (Yu Yingbin) writes:
> yxy4145@usl.edu Thanks a lot.
ieee.general
and
ieee.announce
are the most frequently used groups.
| 12sci.electronics
|
Re: Your opinion and what it means to me.
In article <1993Apr20.235735.23007@bnr.ca> MBEAVING@BNR.CA writes:
>|>
>|> So, Take you own advice and wuit you whining about
>|> flames.
>|>
>
>No brains and he can't spell either.
>
>.edu?? I hope you're not a student at Duke...
>you would be wasting your tuition.
>
>
>===================================================
>= The Beav |Mike Beavington| Dod:9733 =
>= V65Sabre mbeaving@bnr.ca =
>= My employer has no idea what I'm talking about! =
>===================================================
OOOoooh, complaining about my spelling.
I'm _so_ hurt.
No I'm not a student. I'm an alumnus. And an employee.
So I can get my money _back_ from these grubs.
BNR, huh? I hope you're not a permanent,
they'd be wasting benefits on you.
pthptptphhph!
--
Andy Infante | You can listen to what everybody says, but the fact remains |
'71 BMW R60/5 | that you've got to get out there and do the thing yourself. |
DoD #2426 | -- Joan Sutherland |
==============| My opinions, dammit, have nothing to do with anyone else!!! |
| 8rec.motorcycles
|
1992-93 NHL Regular Season Final Attendance Report
*** NATIONAL HOCKEY LEAGUE ***
92-93 SEASON
HOME ATTENDANCE REPORT
Each Qtr. represents 10 home games, Qtr. 4 will have 11 home games.
Neutral site games are not included. S/O indicates the number of sell-outs.
Team
Name Qtr. 1 S/O Qtr. 2 S/O Qtr. 3 S/O Qtr. 4 S/O Totals Average
================================================================================
BOS 140,573 5 142,694 7 142,768 6 152,468 8 578,503 14,109
BUF 144,701 0 148,516 3 152,133 5 168,878 4 614,228 14,981
CAL 190,125 1 196,174 3 196,982 4 217,346 5 800,627 19,527
CHI 176,372 10 176,746 9 177,981 10 196,749 11 727,848 17,752
DET 196,330 10 196,670 10 197,228 10 217,167 10 807,395 19,692
EDM 139,038 0 149,422 2 152,831 2 165,384 2 606,675 14,796
HAR 92,994 0 110,670 2 108,651 0 122,123 0 434,438 10,596
LA 154,065 5 159,014 8 160,050 10 176,055 11 649,184 15,833
MIN 130,710 2 140,933 3 139,986 1 160,213 4 571,842 13,947
MON 168,097 8 169,671 10 168,784 10 190,186 11 696,738 16,993
NJ 127,053 0 124,011 2 145,856 2 163,050 1 559,970 13,657
NYI 114,706 1 108,502 1 123,167 3 139,946 0 486,321 11,861
NYR 178,200 7 179,990 6 182,000 10 199,337 8 739,527 18,037
OTT 104,713 10 105,000 10 104,602 10 115,330 11 429,645 10,479
PHI 172,372 4 172,967 3 172,613 2 190,520 5 708,472 17,279
PIT 160,379 6 161,475 8 161,280 6 177,705 10 660,839 16,118
QUE 149,452 3 147,911 3 147,394 2 168,830 8 613,587 14,965
SJ 110,890 10 110,374 8 110,120 7 121,745 10 453,129 11,051
STL 156,313 3 170,531 5 171,249 5 187,849 7 685,942 16,730
TB 97,269 5 99,621 6 99,611 4 114,059 9 410,560 10,013
TOR 155,500 4 157,779 9 157,014 8 172,888 11 643,181 15,687
VAN 144,120 0 154,184 4 157,094 6 176,751 8 632,149 15,418
WAS 153,209 0 163,563 1 161,479 2 171,711 2 649,962 15,852
WIN 131,072 0 135,902 1 133,414 1 154,956 2 555,344 13,544
3,488,253 3,582,320 3,624,287 4,021,246 14,716,106
Avg. 14,534 14,926 15,101 15,231 14,955
| 10rec.sport.hockey
|
Re: IDE vs SCSI (here we go again.....)
In article <1993Apr16.205724.26258@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> smace@nyx.cs.du.edu (Scott Mace) writes:
>
>If you don't belive what I said about busmastering and vlbus then pick
>up a back issue of PC-week in whihc they tested vlbus, eisa and isa
>busmastering cards.
>
Do you recall which issue this was in? I posted a message related to this a
while back to provoke an argument so that I could get the straight dope on
this. This article would probably give me all the definitive answers that I
want.
Ed Stasic
estasic@ic.sunysb.edu
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
|
Re: Changing brake fluid..is it necessary..
In article <1993Apr23.163129.53125@gmuvax.gmu.edu> lcarr@gmuvax.gmu.edu writes:
> Hi.
> I've been seeing all these articles about changing
> brake fluid and I am wondering if this is really necessary.
> I have an 86 Toyota Corolla SR5, with 94000 and I am in the
Only if you want to stop. Seriously though, every 2 years you should
have this done. Brake fluid absorbs water over time, the water becomes
steam when the fluid gets hot, and steam compresses. You'll also have
better luck with the longevity of master cylinder, calipers and brake
lines.
Jeff Goss
| 7rec.autos
|
Re: STOP MAYNARD BASHING!!!! (was Re: Roger Maynard)
In <1993Apr16.225806.10680@julian.uwo.ca> lee139@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Steve Lee) writes:
>In article <1993Apr16.213024.8698@sol.UVic.CA> gballent@hudson.UVic.CA writes:
>>Does anyone recieve annoying email from Roger Maynard whenever they post an
>>article telling them to leave him alon and stop posting to the group??
>>These emails are filled with insults- more than are usual in Roger's posts
>>and have little if any hockey info.
>>I have recieved two in the last 2 days.
>>I am just wondering if I am special or Roger trys to bully everyone who
>>disagrees with him.
>>
>>Gregmeister
>>
>You can't be serious! I and many of my colleagues have not received any
>bad e-mails from Roger, in fact, Roger happens to have answered most if not
>all of my hockey questions and curiosities, so before you start flaming
>at me or Roger, better re-consider your nasty attitude towards Roger and the
>like!
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Steve Lee * University of Western Ontario * London, Canada
> lee139@obelix.gaul.csd.uwo.ca
>_______________________________________________________________________________
Speaking of Roger, where is his comments from last nights game. You have
to admit he can make a nothing game sound like it was game 7 of the
Stanley Cup finals.
Roger pushes the Leafs so much it even bothers me, a long time supporter
but he does have a good overall idea of the game.
Wow I just gave R.M a compliment, guess I better stop it with the Rye +
Water before I give him another..
| 10rec.sport.hockey
|
Re: THE POPE IS JEWISH!
west@next02cville.wam.umd.edu (Stilgar) writes:
>The pope is jewish.... I guess they're right, and I always thought that
>the thing on his head was just a fancy hat, not a Jewish headpiece (I
>don't remember the name). It's all so clear now (clear as mud.)
As to what that headpiece is....
(by chort@crl.nmsu.edu)
SOURCE: AP NEWSWIRE
The Vatican, Home Of Genetic Misfits?
Michael A. Gillow, noted geneticist, has revealed some unusual data
after working undercover in the Vatican for the past 18 years. "The
Popehat(tm) is actually an advanced bone spur.", reveals Gillow in his
groundshaking report. Gillow, who had secretly studied the innermost
workings of the Vatican since returning from Vietnam in a wheel chair,
first approached the scientific community with his theory in the late
1950's.
"The whole hat thing, that was just a cover up. The Vatican didn't
want the Catholic Community(tm) to realize their leader was hefting
nearly 8 kilograms of extraneous bone tissue on the top of his
skull.", notes Gillow in his report. "There are whole laboratories in
the Vatican that experiment with tissue transplants and bone marrow
experiments. What started as a genetic fluke in the mid 1400's is now
scientifically engineered and bred for. The whole bone transplant idea
started in the mid sixties inspired by doctor Timothy Leary
transplanting deer bone cells into small white rats." Gillow is quick
to point out the assassination attempt on Pope John Paul II and the
disappearance of Dr. Leary from the public eye.
"When it becomes time to replace the pope", says Gillow, "The old pope
and the replacement pope are locked in a padded chamber. They butt
heads much like male yaks fighting for dominance of the herd. The
victor emerges and has earned the privilege of inseminating the choir
boys."
P.
--
moorcockpratchettdenislearydelasoulu2iainmbanksneworderheathersbatmanpjorourke
clive p a u l m o l o n e y Come, let us retract the foreskin of misconception
james trinity college dublin and apply the wire brush of enlightenment - GeoffM
brownbladerunnersugarcubeselectronicblaylockpowersspikeleekatebushhamcornpizza
| 0alt.atheism
|
Re: Can you share one monitor w/ 2 cpus?
bm967@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David Kantrowitz) writes ...
>
>I have a Centris 610 & want to get an IBM machine as well.
>To save space on my desk, I would like to use one monitor
>for both, with a switch-box. Does anyone know of a way to do
>this?
Sure. Buy a switch box and a multisync monitor. I have just that
arrangement on my desk and it works fine.
--
Ray Fischer "Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth
ray@netcom.com than lies." -- Friedrich Nietzsche
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware
|
Re: Manual Shift Bigots
eliot@lanmola.engr.washington.edu (eliot) writes:
>In article <C5LIw2.CAx@news.rich.bnr.ca> Peon w/o Email (Eric Youngblood) writes:
>>In article <1qn2lo$c9s@vela.acs.oakland.edu>, mje@pookie.pass.wayne.edu (Michael J. Edelman) writes:
>>The big disadvantage of automatics is the ~10% HP they consume that never
>>gets to the wheels. In this respect they are at a disadvantage to a manual.
>only when the torque converter is not locked up. there are autos out there
>with converter lock up in 2nd, 3rd and 4th gears.
W/r/t performance, converter lockup is purely irrelevant. The lockup only
occurs at light throttle settings and serves only to improve MPG. Mind you,
a converter clutch does a lovely job of improving MPG, but the additional
mechanical advantage of the converter gives you more acceleration (vs. locked
converter clutch) than its inherent losses take away.
Michael T. Chaffee
mchaffee@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu <----Email
mchaffee@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu <----NeXTMail
.sig under construction. <----Excuse
| 7rec.autos
|
Re: Pleasant Yankee Surprises
In article <120399@netnews.upenn.edu> sepinwal@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Alan
Sepinwall) writes:
>
> Some pleasant (and then some not so pleasant) surprises about the 1993
> edition of the Bronx Bombers so far.
>
> 4)Wickman. A friend made a comparison between Wickman and Jack
> Morris - they never have impressive stats but they always
> find some way to win (although Morris seems to be losing that
> ability). I figured that Wickman would be the least important
> part of the Steve Sax trade (best trade since we got that Ruth
> guy), maybe winding up as a good middle reliever. But I like
what
> I've seen so far. He doesn't pitch pretty, but he gets the job
done.
>
Actually, I kind of liked the Abott trade. We did trade the rookie of
the year, SNOW, but with Don mattingly at first for another 8 years, Why
bother.
| 9rec.sport.baseball
|
CAN'T WRITE TO 720 FLOPPY
OK all you experts!
Need answer quick.386 machine ,1.44 floppy ; unable to write to a formated
720 disk.Machine claims that disk is write protected,but it is not.
Note: It 'll read 720's with no problem.
Please e_mail or post.
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
|
Wanted: 9-chip 1 megabyte SIMMS (60ns)!
I am in the market for (4) 1 megabyte SIMMS. These must
be of the 9-chip variety, and also must be 60 nanoseconds.
Email: bitzm@columbia.dsu.edu
Thanks
------------------------------------------------------------
Mike Bitz Internet: bitzm@columbia.dsu.edu
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Re: CGM Files
In article <MEYER.93May28133222@ibsen.geomatic.no> meyer@geomatic.no (Harald Martens Meyer) writes:
>The only book I've found on the CGM format, is "CGM and CGI" by D.B.Arnold
>& P.R.Bono from Springer-Verlag, ISBN 3-540-18950-5. It's not the best
>book I've read though....
Well, there *is* the standards document. From the FAQ:
12) How to order standards documents.
The American National Standards Institute sells ANSI standards, and also
ISO (international) standards. Their sales office is at 1-212-642-4900,
mailing address is 1430 Broadway, NY NY 10018. It helps if you have the
complete name and number.
Some useful numbers to know:
CGM (Computer Graphics Metafile) is ISO 8632-4 (1987). GKS (Graphical
Kernel System) is ANSI X3.124-1985. ...
>If you want a viewer, try downloading ralcgm from unix.hensa.ac.uk,
>/misc/unix/ralcgm/ralcgm.tar.Z
You might also want to look at gplot from the folks at the Pittsburgh
Supercomputer Center. Fish around at calpe.psc.edu. It is pretty
nifty.
spl
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San Diego Microscopy and Imaging Resource/UC San Diego/La Jolla, CA 92093-0608
"A naked lunch is natural to us,/we eat reality sandwiches.
But allegories are so much lettuce./Don't hide the madness." -Allen Ginsberg
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- Spare Bedroom (12.6 X 10)
- Dining Room (10.9 X 9)
- Living Room (21 X 11.10)
- Utility Room (10 X 5.5)
- 1.25 Baths
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- Garage opener
- Washer and Dryer
- Garbage Disposal
- Gas water heater (3 Years Old)
- Central A/C with DIGITAL Thermostat.
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Re: Lezgians Astir in Azerbaijan and Daghestan
HELLO, shit face david, I see that you are still around. I dont want to
see your shitty writings posted here man. I told you. You are getting
itchy as your fucking country. Hey , and dont give me that freedom
of speach bullshit once more. Because your freedom has ended when you started
writing things about my people. And try to translate this "ebenin donu
butti kafa David.".
BYE, ANACIM HADE.
TIMUCIN
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Internet: gt1091a@prism.gatech.edu
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Re: Societal basis for morality
In <1993Apr20.004119.6119@cnsvax.uwec.edu> nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu (David Nye)
writes:
>[reply to cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Mike Cobb)]
>
>>If morals come from what is societally accepted, why follow that? What
>>right do we have to expect others to follow our notion of societally
>>mandated morality? Pardon the extremism, but couldn't I murder your
>>"brother" and say that I was exercising my rights as I saw them, was
>>doing what felt good, didn't want anyone forcing their morality on me,
>>or I don't follow your "morality" ?
>
>I believe that morality is subjective. Each person is entitled to his
>own moral attitudes. Mine are not a priori more correct than someone
>elses. This does not mean however that I must judge another on the
>basis of his rather than my moral standards. While he is entitled to
>believe what his own moral sense tells him, the rest of society is
>entitled to pass laws spelling out punishments for behavior that is
>offensive to the majority.
Why? How? Might makes right? How can they force their morality on me? Why
can't I do what I want? Who are they to decide? What if I disagree?
>
>Most criminals do not see their behavior as moral. The may realize that
>it is immoral and not care. They are thus not following their own moral
>system but being immoral.
Good point, but it is being immoral in our opinion. We don't let them choose,
we make the decision that their actions are wrong for them.
For someone to lay claim to an alternative
>moral system, he must be sincere in his belief in it and it must be
>internally consistent. Some sociopaths lack an innate moral sense
I admit to lean toward the idea of an innate moral sense, but have little basis
for it as of yet. How far can such a concept be extended?
and
>thus may be incapable of behaving morally. While someone like Hitler
>may have believed that his actions were moral, we may judge him immoral
>by our standards.
Do you mean that we could say it would be wrong for us to do such a thing but
not him. After all, he was behaving morally in his own eyes and doing what he
chose. On what basis do we condemn other societies besides, here's the buzz
words, on the idea that there are some actions wrong for all humans in all
societies?
Holding that morality is subjective does not mean
>that we must excuse the murderer.
Why not? Do we have to be objective suddenly?
>
>David Nye (nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu). Midelfort Clinic, Eau Claire WI
>This is patently absurd; but whoever wishes to become a philosopher
>must learn not to be frightened by absurdities. -- Bertrand Russell
MAC
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"...and I won't raise taxes on the middle University of Illinois
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-Bill Clinton 3rd Debate cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu
Nobody can explain everything to anybody. G.K.Chesterton
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Re: Countersteering_FAQ please post
In article <1qmetg$g2n@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
[...]
>horse's neck in the direction you wish to go. When training a
>plow-steering horse to neck-rein, one technique is to cross the reins
>under his necks. Thus, when neck-reining to the left, the right rein
^^^^^
[...]
>Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
[...]
Given my desire to stay as far away as possible from farming and ranching
equipment, I really hate to jump into this thread. I'm going to anyway,
but I really hate it.
Ed, exactly what kind of mutant horse-like entity do you ride, anyway?
Does countersteering work on the normal, garden-variety, one-necked horse?
Obmoto: I was flipping through the March (I think) issue of Rider, and I
saw a small pseudo-ad for a book on hand signals appropriate to motorcycling.
It mentioned something about a signal for "Your passenger is on fire." Any
body know the title and author of this book, and where I could get a copy?
This should not be understood as implying that I have grown sociable enough
to ride with anyone, but the book sounded cute.
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mcguire@austin.ibm.com
"...I will append an appropriate disclaimer to outgoing public information,
identifying it as personal and as independent of IBM...."
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Re: Trade rumor: Montreal/Ottawa/Phillie
Also sprach slegge@kean.ucs.mun.ca ...
>TSN Sportsdesk just reported that the OTTAWA SUN has reported that
>Montreal will send 4 players + $15 million including Vin Damphousse
>and Brian Bellows to Phillidelphia, Phillie will send Eric Lindros
>to Ottawa, and Ottawa will give it's first round pick to Montreal.
>
>If this is true, it will most likely depend on whether or not Ottawa
>gets to choose 1st overall. Can Ottawa afford Lindros' salary?
>
>Personally, I can't see Philli giving up Lindros -- for anything.
>They didn't give away that much to Quebec just to trade him away
>again. Not to mention that Lindros seems to be a *huge* draw in
>Phillie -- and that he represents a successful future for the
>franchise.
>
>Ottawa may be better off taking the 4 players +$15 from Montreal
>for the pick.
>
>Stephen Legge
>SLEGGE@kean.ucs.munc.ca
Two things:
1. Didn't the trade deadline pass two weeks ago?
2. The FLYERS would never ever EVER give up Lindros, simple as that.
Go Flyers, Cup in '94...
Mike
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Re: Life and Fall of Wlodowa: Do Not Forget
In article <1993Apr05.120108.6578@oneb.almanac.bc.ca> kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay) writes:
> REMEMBER AND DO NOT FORGET
> Sisha Fuchs
Never. I don't know whether anybody formulated and proposed such an
index or criteria to determine the magnitude of a genocide as mentioned
and advised by Toynbee. If one ever does you will easily see the magnitude
of the crime of genocide committed by the Armenians, by massacring an alien
population under their rule which constituted about 40% of their total
population and they did it only within a time period of a little over
two years in which they enjoyed having full control over this population.
Now I would like to ask you:
Is there any other genocide in the history of mankind similar to
this one?
And again I would like to ask you:
Whether the silent and unmourned martyrdom of these hundreds of thousands
of Turks of the Republic of Armenia who were exterminated as a "Final
Solution" to Turco-Tartar problems in Armenia is similar or not
to the martyrdom of six million Jews in Europe as a final solution to
Jewish problems?
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
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Re: Question from an agnostic
Hi Damon, No matter what system or explanation of creation you wish
to accept, you always have to start with one of two premises, creation
from nothing, or creation from something. There are no other
alternatives. And if we accept one or the other of those two
premises, then again there are two alternatives, either creation was
random, or was according to some plan.
If it was random, I am unable to accept that the complex nature of
our world with interrelated interdependent organisms and creatures
could exist as they do. Therefore I am left with creation under the
control of an intelligence capable of devising such a scheme. I call
that intelligence God.
I also prefer the "Creatio ex nihilo" rather than from chaos, as it
is cleaner.
There is obviously no way to prove either or neither. We are and
we must have come from somewhere. Choose whatever explanation you
feel most comfortable with, Damon. You are the one who has to live
with your choice.
Shalom, Len Howard
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Re: Patti Duke's Problem
In article <1993Apr26.070649.2138@hemlock.cray.com> n3022@cray.com writes:
>Does anyone have information about the struggles that Patti
>Duke went through in her personal life with severe mood swings.
>Did she have some form of chemical imbalance that triggered
>these problems? I recall that she wrote a book about her troubles.
>Does someone have the title of that book?
She's published two books about her manic-depressive illness:
_Call Me Anna: the Autobiography of Patty Duke_, Patty Duke and
Kenneth Turan, Bantam Books 1987
and
_A Brilliant Madness: Living with Manic-Depressive Illness_, Patty
Duke and Gloria Hochman, Bantam Books 1992
--Barbara
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Re: For Sale: Quicken 3.0 for the PC
In article <1pma84$hpk@suntan.ec.usf.edu> boneham@sunburn.ec.usf.edu. (Kevin Boneham (CH)) writes:
>In article <1pgvp1INN5ej@phakt.usc.edu> khoh@usc.edu (Oliver Muoto) writes:
>>I have for sale Quicken 3.0 (PC Version) that allows you to balance
> ^^^
>i assume you get new releases earlier than we do here? last i saw, version
>2.0 was the latest.
He is probably referring to the DOS version.. the dos versions is up
to like version 6 i think. The window version just came out recently
so it is only up to like version 2 or something.
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RE: HELP ME INJECT...
The best way of self injection is to use the right size needle
and choose the correct spot. For Streptomycin, usually given intra
muscularly, use a thin needle (23/24 guage) and select a spot on
the upper, outer thigh (no major nerves or blood vessels there).
Clean the area with antiseptic before injection, and after. Make
sure to inject deeply (a different kind of pain is felt when the
needle enters the muscle - contrasted to the 'prick' when it
pierces the skin).
PS: Try to go to a doctor. Self-treatment and self-injection should
be avoided as far as possible.
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Re: NCAA finals...Winner????
ktgeiss@miavx1.acs.muohi writes:
>Lake State/Maine in finals...WHO WON? Please post.
Maine 5, LSSU 4.
Terry
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Islam and Sufism (was Re: Move the Islam discussions...)
(Short reply to Kent Sandvik's post remarking how it is strange that
somehow Sufism is related to Islam, as [to him] they seem quite
different.)
If one really understands Islam, it is not strange that Sufism is
associated with it. In fact, Sufism is (in general) seen as the "inner
dimension" of Islam.
One of the "roots" of the word "Islam" is "submission" -- "Islam"
denotes submission to God. Sufism is the most complete submission to
God imaginable, in "annihilating" oneself in God.
(I am not a Sufi or on the Sufi path, but have read a lot and recently
have been discussing a number of things with others who are on the Sufi
path.)
Fred Rice
darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
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