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Actually, you're off by a factor of two. You forgot the employer's share.

My family pay $400+ a year to do tax return. Flat tax would probably simplify a lot of things including filling out numerous forms.

In other news today, the sun rose in the east yet again this morning.

The ADS endorses another Democrate for the City COuncil. Could you expect anything else? Frankly both candidates don't deserve a vote. As Corazon H. said, a non-endorsement would have been appropriate for both candidates. Sensd in your ballot thith no selection in the Ward 1 race.

Oh B.S...I would not have passed up such "starter" jobs as a teenager, and my daughters sure as heck would not to earn an honest wage. If the pay does not fit the market for such jobs, businesses will need to adjust their pay scale and/or food prices to continue to employ such workers (or choose to accept less profit). This is how market capitalism is supposed to work people.

Has obama EVER stopped campaigning? I don’t think he has EVER made the transition from campaign trail to president. He sure hasn’t taken the time to be president with all his travels and parties and such

I think the life support is the fawning media coverage. The local news runs out to the park everytime someone with the local protest chants or bangs a tamborine. It is a media driven event. If the cameras and reporters would stay away this thing would go away.

New sales-tax money needed to avoid fiscal 'cliff,' group says - What is the AZ Education Association doing in bed with the business association? We basically gutted education and other social and community services to bump up business profits. Handed out well over $500 million and much more over time in revenue to business and the well to do in cuts, credits and incentives. Now we gotta add new taxes on food and gas and school supplies and such to cover it some?

Kino power!

Kudos to the Magma Copper geologists who discovered and tipped into the top of this giant deposit in 1996 from the BOTTOM of the Superior mine! Kudos to Resolution's team for the geology, metallurgy, engineering, and construction work they've competed since to make this a reality. What a fantastic story of sustainability. The mine provided jobs in the Superior area for more than 80 years and went into a quiet period. Reclamation activities started in Superior to clean the soil, remove unstable buildings, and cover tailings and waste rock. The deep source of the mineralization is thousands of feet below surface and will require high-technology and lots of talented people to extract. It will provide jobs for a minimum of 50 years and probably more likely 100+ as is isn't completely drilled out.

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"the cost for police enforcement and prosecution is going to bankrupt you" !!!! Then wouldn't it seem logical that the FINES ARE ASSESSED ACCORDINGLY, to cover the cost of the enforcement and prosecution??????????

They do. In the Southwest, a very high percentage come through or from Mexico.

ex·tor·tion 1.an act or instance of extorting. 2.Law. the crime of obtaining money or some other thing of value by the abuse of one's office or authority. 3.oppressive or illegal exaction, as of excessive price or interest: the extortions of usurers. 4.anything extorted.

As a rule of thumb, if you don't know what side to be on, just take the one opposite Antenori and you'll be just fine.

The Rattan Cane is not much different than the Biblical "rod of discipline". Liberals prefer non-Biblical "timeouts", "hugging", "soft words", and/or "counting to three" - none of which teach the child anything but that their parents are truly afraid to discipline. These "parents" actually believe this is borne of "intelligence", but it actually serves to give the child even more ammunition for future rebellion.

I'm slowly noticing a rumbling among people around me: CREDIT UNIONS

And every person on their death-bed should die in pain. <s/o>.

'Occupy' protesters seeking balance to private-sector gains, social needs The US has been relying on credit to provide social desires masked as needs. It is now time to pay the piper and, like Greece, we are finding withdrawal difficult.

No cherry picking, just listing what I have heard in the interviews that have been played on the TV. IF you want to say the media is cherry picking, then so be it. But somehow I find it impossible to believe that CNN, MSNBC, FOX, ABC, NBC, and CBS are all on the same page.

This thread is almost as old as his tired promises to focus like a laser on jobs.

Earth calling Eugene... We were doing alright until the mortgage crisis. That's a rather important chunk of recent history to be selectively blocking out. Add to this that A) Democrats played in huge part in making the mortgage fiasco happen and B) nobody was forced at gunpoint to sign on off on mortgages they couldn't realistically afford.

The idiots that I have seen lately on bikes may need an attorney.. Most all bike riders are very cool. I move over and give them plenty of room. Some, like I have encountered lately, cut in front of you, flip you off, run stop lights, stop signs, and give the good ones a bad name. I respect riders, motorcycle and bikes, because, in a car, I am bigger..But some of these guys need to know they have to follow road rules..Maybe they need to take a safety class like the motorcycles do.. Personally, I would not get on a bicycle in Tucson..It is too scarey..

A very vice story, Thanks ...

Wow. El Boicotista Raul is against everything, it seems -- except entitlements and illegal immigration, both of which he strongly supports. I can't wait to vote for Gabby Mercer with her more balanced approach.

Thank you for Thursday's front-page article describing the success of the 2011 National Geographic BioBlitz at Saguaro National Park. While your reporter correctly pointed out that this was a community-wide conservation effort, your readers should know that that effort reflected near-record numbers of participating students and event volunteers, as well as an unprecedented level of private- sector financial support. community that distinguished the Saguaro BioBlitz from the four preceding National Geographic BioBlitz events. While we certainly appreciate the help provided by all the event's donors and sponsors, special recognition should be given to Tucson Electric Power, as their significant financial, volunteer and logistical support was crucial to the overall success of the Saguaro BioBlitz. Their generosity as a good corporate citizen in this community should not go unnoticed. People working together to make Tucson better. We need more of that.

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The betterment of everyone huh...that's the largest brush of all.

Love the chicken livers. Rest In Peace. May your family be comforted. You made life in Tucson a little nicer for everyone. I have the jingle running through my head right now! "For picnics and parties and dinner at home...."

Oh, all ho e mean millionai e ! i ha g f om Clem on OWS?

You can say that again!

This guy is mighty slippery and blows more smoke than an old Steam Engine going uphill. BTW.. I thought the campaign was Over? And, why does he STILL continue to blame all the 'bad' stuff on Bush? Seems like it's always ' somebody else's fault' !!

Direct result of the Mexicanization of Tucson. The more illegals and their anchor babies, the more gangs. Then even some wannabe Mexican gangs. The fault of all Hispanics. Of course not. But when you have had this much importation of 3rd world poverty, overwhelmingly from Mexico and other Latin American countries, this is what you will get. You won't see that much graffiti from immigrants of Sweden and Germany. Welcome to the future as society unravels and nobody will be able to figure out why. Correction! We will know why but no one will have the guts to say it and try to stop it.

Jon R, please stop throwing the race card, it makes you seem more racist. Especially since you are of the "If you don't support MAS, you are a racist". That's uneducaed racism at it's best.

And that's exactly my point, America leads the world in setting the highest standards in environmental regulations. In their compliance with these regulations, America's domestic mining industry is second to none in meeting their environmental and social responsibilities.

Socializing emphasizes individual equality and provides a safety net for those who stumble or are unable to sufficiently compete. Remind me how equal Warren Buffett is. Oh right, he says the right things and gives a little to charity. He's the good ultra-rich.

Romero was up to her neck in Rio Nuevo meddling....constant bad decision making and silly projects. Too bad that this Grijalva puppet can have this seat for as long as she wants...too many in her District are single 'issue' voters. Tucson keep voting for know-nothings like Romero, maybe they can destroy your city even faster... p.s....think I will send a few dollars to Baker, even though I am just north of the city limits.....

That's nice...

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The crazy conspiracy theory is that Obama wanted this operation to manufacture support for more gun control. If you told me a year and half ago that there was a secret part of the government selling guns to the drug cartels with no oversight, I would have called you crazy, paranoid, and conspiracy theorist. Just saying...

Sounds like a great mother to me!

Well, we do have a lot of Democrats here! Good one, although naturall I would have said TP members.

OH yeah, and a big thank you to former mayor George Miller, a very successful local capitalist and human being, for coming down to check out the truth.

Obama & Dems want to be just like Venezuela & Greece. THATS extremist. Yep, as usual, Sam beings us the well thought out, logical point of view. It's not the broken political system that needs fixed. The entire problem is simply the Democrats and President Obama. The Republicans have had it right all along. It's just that the electorate occasionally goes brain dead and believes a pack of lies and elects a Democrat ..... like the President of the United States; or the United States Senate; or both of southern Arizona's Congressional representatives. Difficult problems demand complex solutions. Like vote Republican? Good grief.

For all of you that gobble up the end times prophecy (see Calif Christians predict end of world thread): Have you noticed that 9-9-9 turned upside down is 6-6-6???? Surely a sign that Cain is the Anti-Christ I suppose.

NAKAGOWA is an Assoc.,Prof.,in the "School of Social Transformation" at ASU.. What the HE_L is THAT? ROMERO is an Assoc.,Prof., in "Family Studies and Human Development" --Ditto! BEEMAN is a Prof., in "Family Studies and Director of Ethnic Studies" at NAU---Unbelievble! TUSD "MAS" is nothing but a hate-America, revolutionary, devisive class that pits one group against another and telling the one group how "oppressed" they are. Even worse is the fact that students can take this racist/biased class instead of American History! Shame on all this people--and ADS for even printing this ridiculous article.. Cut TUSD'S budget so they don't have any MORE of our tax money to waste...

is it too much to ask about even the general details of what is being discussed?

Occupy Rosemont?

I would much prefer better healthcare at cheaper prices then paying the salaries of this talking head (who really cares what damn ethnicity he is) and the insipid marketing person who thought up this whole contrivance.

You're probably right that this is/would be an unwinnable discussion. I also agree that everyone has a different idea as to "what is fair." But I think many seem to equate the term "equal" with "fair" ... I think they are mistaken. Creating public policy on the bases of "equal" is simple, but ineffective for (and possibly, detrimental to) maintaining society. For example: I think everyone would say a system designed to ensure that both the starving and sated, alike, were to receive a single apple is equal, in that everyone gets the same amount. But that system provides the starving man, far less than he needs; while in no real way benefiting the non-starving man. This is not a benefit to society. Likewise, a plan that taxes the poor man and the wealthy man, both, at 10%, would be equal; but not fair. While the rates are equal, they have a far greater negative affect on the poor man, than his wealthy comparator. And while, in isolation, this might not appear significant, if one looks at the additional costs to society, relative to more progressive tax scheme, these flat tax scheme are a detriment to society. IOW, since the low wage earner's needs do not decrease just because the taxation scheme changes, the costs will just shift to the next higher wage earner until it reaches the ~$80K level (Cain's plan), where the wage earner sees a decrease in their taxes. This is a detriment to society.

According to the Statistical Abstract of the U.S., the wealthiest age group is 65 and over. One can easily conclude that the Social Security and Medicare is a massive wealth transfer ostensibly from the young to the old is also from the poor to the wealthy. Ironically those that support these government wealth transfers the most are also the ones that complain the most about inequalities of wealth and income.

Can we agree since the charges of anti-semitism among the occupying protesters come mainly from conservative media outlets and the charges of racism among tea party participants come mainly from liberal media sources both may be "over reported" and that sure, every large group will have idiots who deviate from the majority's thinking?

And I thought Rio Nuevo was the only sinkhole along the Santa Cruz.

Nobody if fooled here. The assumption was to have behind closed door deals out of this mess and get it into non-biased hands. What do they do? They hire a mapping consultant based in Washington that has ties to President Obama’s first presidential campaign. The panel chairwoman, Colleen C. Mathis's husband, Christopher, worked on the losing campaign of a Democratic state representative. The panel is under investigation to see if it violated open meeting and procurement laws when it considered applications from mapping consultants behind closed doors. The commission gave the job to Strategic Telemetry, whose president, Ken Strasma, crunched data for the Obama campaign in 2008. We've already seen Obama corruption how that works and we cannot allow the Chicago crooks draw our lines for us. So yes, it is imperative that the voters become well educated on this matter, understand the mandates that must be followed, and hold people's feet to the fire when the public is being deceived. Tis is too important to merely look the other way.

That's a lot of pothole repairs! Maybe the OWS folks should be occupying the tracks.

Help for the middle class will ultimately be paid for by taxing the middle class.

Hardt's attorney, Michael Piccarreta, said his client plans to pay the full amount. Piccarreta said the violations occurred when Arizona's construction boom was still in work .(emphasis mine) "He accepts full responsibility for that," Piccarreta said Anyone believe he had trouble finding enough legal workers to do that job - maybe he did if he was only paying illegal alien level wages! BTW, was there anything publically mentioned telling the disposition of all those illegal workers? In any case, it is good to finally see some real consequences doled out to those who have demonstrated a policy of hiring - and harboring, illegal aliens! The workers in this country, especially the South West States that are the gateway to the rest of the Country, needs more such raids to happen with convictions that will put a dent in the illegal's ability to find work. Since the Feds seem so spineless in securing the Border and essentially all but inviting their continued invasion, the shrinking pool of employers willing to hire them will have the most profound effect we can have in discouraging them from coming here and in getting those already here to self deport on their own!

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Shoes and ball caps. Imagine the outrage!

For the same fare (but cheaper) buy a can of ALPO at the grocery store and serve it on a tortilla!

sorry, David, you couldn't be more wrong about how the nominating process works. The members of the Commission on Appellate Court Appointments are appoin ed by the Governor. Period. From the AZ Bar website: Members of the judicial selection commissions are appointed b the Governor and confirmed b the Senate. yes, there are some criteria about the membership but the bottom line is that a governor can pack the committees to a certain extent.

and vacationing...

“When faced with facts that prove you wrong, resort to insults to distract” Wow, that’s exactly what the OWS folks are doing! When faced with the fact they are breaking the law they simply try to distract us by pooping on the American flag! Try wiping up with an Iranian flag on national TV and see what that gets ya!

Occupy’ May Hold National Assembly In Philadelphia

Actually, Grijalva is not the main issue here. I hope that the conference was cancelled because with our entire country facing such financial, education, medical care and unemployment problems, it is inappropriate to have an HISPANIC COMMUNITY SUPPORT conference. Why isn't it a CITIZEN community support conference???

Cutlery? My dear lady never bring a knife to a gun fight. As Larry said earlier if you find yourself in a fair fight your tactics suck.

This message brought to you by the Arizona Republican Party.... My favorite line "Ninety democrats and republicans will do a better job than a five member person." More like 61 Republicans and 29 Democrats. Good luck getting any type of independent decision making out of that one. This all boils down to the fact that Republicans have a 4% advantage in party registration, yet they hold 68% of the seats in the legislative body to the Democrats 32%. This is the true outrage and they want to try to hold on to this. Why are they so afraid of competitive disticts? Well the easy answer is because they don't want to have to represent all of the people in their districts, just the Republicans. Make every district competitive so that those who represent us, represent all of us.

There is no image problem, just image identification.

Or atleast for the repeat posters!!! lol couldn't help myself

Looks as if Obama is back on the campaign trail again, he still do get it, he can do nothing out trying to fool the people again, stay at home and work on the problems, you already have the job (more than I can say for 17% of the country) so do it

I think they're settling for de facto legal status, Veronica.

The government could make the climate for business better. Over regulation kills businesses before they even start. The government really needs to let private enterprise do it's job. It isn't up to the government to provide jobs, nor does that work very long. The media could tone it down a bit too. Too many times the media starts the stampede of fear. Obama's big problem is he wants everyone to go along with what he suggests at any cost. Not going to happen. He wants everyone else to bend when he isn't willing to do that himself. What part of We are Broke, doesn't he understand as he prints more money, or gives it away. Yes, companies have outsourced jobs. Just maybe they did it because of a bad business climate filled with too many government regulations, and demanding unions. The American worker is the loser in the end.

See...that's what I always thought. But it seems more of the prisoners behind bars for crimes against children just grow old and die in prison. Few get "handled" the way they should.

Yeah, but these people think they want straight up socialism...because many of the people complaining here never did anything for themselves, but rather believe they are owed comfortable lives simply because they exist.

At the end of 2008, our economy had contracted by -9 percent. Changed happened. It reversed and headed upwards by 13 points ending in 2009 with a plus 4. I call that success. As I see it, all GOP presidential candidates have pre-2008 economic plans which would take our country back to -9 percent. -9 percent is not something to vote for in 2012.

I said it before and I will say it again. Kids are little germ factories. Of course anything they touch is going to have germs on it. This lady wants to be the modern day Erin Brockovich. Ohhh... I was all set to click thumbs up with the first line, but had to pass with the second line.

Steve needs to get back to the more important issues. Speaking of which, whatever happened to his one man crusade against teenage strippers at non-alcoholic clubs?

Occupy Wall Street protesters are pointing out that our financial and political systems are out of balance. The big question is what will be required to put them back in balance? I'm pretty sure illegally camping out won't do a damn thing. I don't disagree that the wealthy individuals and corporations have bought off our politicians at all levels. But if you keep re-electing politicians from either party, you are just perpetuating the corruption. 'Occupy' protesters seeking balance to private-sector gains, social

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p.s. Richard H. -- you're right, everything posted before your comment (except one 2/1/11 comment) is from November and December, 2010. lolol

The article is Total biased BS! Our Red Star will grasp at anything to support it's socialist agenda.

Enforce curfews and house arrest.Build first class reform schools.

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Manny B - Just asking. What did Obama do that is "Communist/Socialist"???? Examples please.

Give me the right to choose when to die. My mother has had Alzheimer's for decades. She's miserable, her family is miserable, people have to do everything for her, and it all costs a whopping $9,000 per month. Let me go when I'm ready ... make it peaceful ... and let me write up some rules for when to take me out before I lose my mind! I might not be able to get my useless mind and body to Switzerland when it is time!

brought to you by Tucson's finest good ole boys. Now, we wait to see what an FBI $14,000,000 for design, no problem. Engineering, engineering and engineering and, oh yeah, lets consult with consultants.

He's getting a little old and a little senile and forget to post the other half.

Easily done. Hold the Congress to the strictures of Article 1, sections 8 & 9. Following the Constitution would have kept us out of this predicament.

People that talk like that never even paid enough to cover their share of defense spending they love so. Currently that share is $6,666 if you are married or $13,332 if you have 2 kids. Add their share of the bailout money too. And don't forget the share of the national debt spend on defending the homeland and the interest.

Great! We are uniting families! Yay for us!

Surely, we can't have adequate representation for those in Arizona who don't share the madness of the modern day GOP. That would be too democratic.

Wake me when the Flea Bagger crowd heads on over to the White House lawn to camp out....ok?

Yeah, about as well as drivers multi-task.

Raul Grijalva is as helpful to Arizona, as Harold Camping is to Christianity.

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I read her stories because something inside of me hopes that this piece of crap is more than a spoiled child, but alas she is no different. Goes to show you that most young American actors are just spoiled brats. They don't take anything seriously. What a waste of opportunity. Oh well, lost cause, another statistic.

Oh God here we go again another half a joke.

The Walrus needs to go. Hasn't Arizona suffered enough embarrassment?

Can someone explain: First, why is this story, dated 9/16/11 is appearing today? Second, why are comments from November 2011 through September 9, 2011 shown to this story? If the ADS is looking for filler material, it certainly could throw in one or more idiotic articles abourt the UofA biffieball team.