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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | to be in the presence of people who are even smarter than us | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:42:39.320 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | all around is when you and I were both two years old, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:42:42.560 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | I mean, our parents were much more intelligent than us, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:42:45.600 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | right? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:42:48.360 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | Worked out OK, because their goals | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:42:49.040 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | were aligned with our goals. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:42:51.960 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | And that, I think, is really the number one key issue | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:42:53.960 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | we have to solve if we value align the value alignment | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:42:58.680 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | problem, exactly. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:43:02.280 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | Because people who see too many Hollywood movies | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:43:03.080 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | with lousy science fiction plot lines, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:43:06.520 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | they worry about the wrong thing, right? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:43:10.000 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | They worry about some machine suddenly turning evil. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:43:12.200 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | It's not malice that is the concern. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:43:16.320 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | It's competence. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:43:21.480 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | By definition, intelligent makes you very competent. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:43:22.880 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | If you have a more intelligent goal playing, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:43:27.440 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | computer playing is a less intelligent one. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:43:31.920 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | And when we define intelligence as the ability | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:43:33.680 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | to accomplish goal winning, it's going | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:43:36.120 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | to be the more intelligent one that wins. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:43:38.600 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | And if you have a human and then you | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:43:40.560 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | have an AGI that's more intelligent in all ways | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:43:43.560 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | and they have different goals, guess who's | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:43:47.720 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | going to get their way, right? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:43:49.520 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | So I was just reading about this particular rhinoceros species | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:43:50.720 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | that was driven extinct just a few years ago. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:43:57.120 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | Ellen Bummer is looking at this cute picture of a mommy | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:43:59.200 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | rhinoceros with its child. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:44:02.280 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | And why did we humans drive it to extinction? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:44:05.080 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | It wasn't because we were evil rhino haters as a whole. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:44:09.320 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | It was just because our goals weren't aligned | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:44:12.800 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | with those of the rhinoceros. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:44:14.920 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | And it didn't work out so well for the rhinoceros | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:44:16.000 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | because we were more intelligent, right? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:44:17.680 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | So I think it's just so important | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:44:19.560 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | that if we ever do build AGI, before we unleash anything, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:44:21.240 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | we have to make sure that it learns | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:44:27.120 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | to understand our goals, that it adopts our goals, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:44:31.840 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | and that it retains those goals. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:44:36.000 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | So the cool, interesting problem there | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:44:37.920 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | is us as human beings trying to formulate our values. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:44:40.520 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | So you could think of the United States Constitution as a way | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:44:47.040 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | that people sat down, at the time a bunch of white men, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:44:51.360 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | which is a good example, I should say. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:44:56.680 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | They formulated the goals for this country. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:44:59.680 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | And a lot of people agree that those goals actually | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:45:01.480 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | held up pretty well. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:45:03.760 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | That's an interesting formulation of values | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:45:05.360 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | and failed miserably in other ways. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:45:07.160 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | So for the value alignment problem and the solution to it, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:45:09.440 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | we have to be able to put on paper or in a program | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:45:13.320 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | human values. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:45:19.560 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | How difficult do you think that is? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:45:20.400 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | Very. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:45:22.400 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | But it's so important. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:45:24.040 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | We really have to give it our best. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:45:25.880 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | And it's difficult for two separate reasons. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:45:28.000 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | There's the technical value alignment problem | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:45:30.120 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | of figuring out just how to make machines understand our goals, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:45:33.440 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | adopt them, and retain them. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:45:39.120 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | And then there's the separate part of it, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:45:40.440 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | the philosophical part. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:45:43.200 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | Whose values anyway? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:45:44.200 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | And since it's not like we have any great consensus | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:45:45.920 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | on this planet on values, what mechanism should we | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:45:48.320 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | create then to aggregate and decide, OK, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:45:52.040 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | what's a good compromise? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:45:54.120 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | That second discussion can't just | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:45:56.520 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | be left to tech nerds like myself. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:45:58.440 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | And if we refuse to talk about it and then AGI gets built, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:46:01.560 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | who's going to be actually making | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:46:05.720 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | the decision about whose values? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:46:07.160 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | It's going to be a bunch of dudes in some tech company. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:46:08.480 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | And are they necessarily so representative of all | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:46:12.080 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | of humankind that we want to just entrust it to them? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:46:17.240 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | Are they even uniquely qualified to speak | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:46:19.400 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | to future human happiness just because they're | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:46:23.000 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | good at programming AI? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:46:25.240 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | I'd much rather have this be a really inclusive conversation. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:46:26.480 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | But do you think it's possible? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:46:30.200 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | So you create a beautiful vision that includes the diversity, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:46:32.560 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | cultural diversity, and various perspectives on discussing | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:46:37.560 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | rights, freedoms, human dignity. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:46:40.960 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | But how hard is it to come to that consensus? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:46:43.600 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | Do you think it's certainly a really important thing | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:46:46.520 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | that we should all try to do? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:46:50.400 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | But do you think it's feasible? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:46:51.880 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | I think there's no better way to guarantee failure than to | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:46:54.240 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | refuse to talk about it or refuse to try. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:47:00.160 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | And I also think it's a really bad strategy | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:47:02.840 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | to say, OK, let's first have a discussion for a long time. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:47:05.320 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | And then once we reach complete consensus, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:47:08.560 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | then we'll try to load it into some machine. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:47:11.040 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | No, we shouldn't let perfect be the enemy of good. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:47:13.360 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | Instead, we should start with the kindergarten ethics | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:47:16.560 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | that pretty much everybody agrees on | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:47:20.600 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | and put that into machines now. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:47:22.120 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | We're not doing that even. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:47:24.360 |
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1 | Look at anyone who builds this passenger aircraft, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:47:25.880 |