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Thanks, Steve, for your helpful and informative comments on Mac stereo sound. Too bad some developers aren't addressing the problem. This did make my trusty old Mac II superior to the Quadra I replaced it with in one way though! :) Thanks, Doug

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To those interested in the new ATI Ultra Cards: I had posted some questions regarding the new ATI Ultra Pro cards and had asked confirmation of some opinions. This message is a summary of the responses. Thanks to all of you that replied. > 1) The card does not work in a system with 32M RAM. a) The higher memory limits apply to ISA cards only, as far as I know. The VLB and EISA version should have no problems. b) I'm pretty sure from my experience that the ISA version doesn't work in systems with over 16M Ram. There is supposed to be way of switching the "memory aperture" feature off to prevent this, but apparently it doesn't work. I posted some "help me" messages on the net and people indicated that the EISA card didn't have this problem. c) FALSE d) The VLB card, which I have, allows you to set memory aperture over 32M by using their configuration software. No messing with jumpers necessary. The 32M problem is probably valid only for ISA cards. > 2) The card works in a 32M system with some switches > set but it is much slower. a) Again, the memory aperture need only be disabled if you have more than 124M RAM (EISA and VLB) or 12 M (ISA). 32M should not be a problem for you. b) Dunno. c) Depends on the bus. YES if ISA, NO if EISA or Localbus > 3) The card is _interlaced_ in its 24bit (true-colour) modes. a) Nope. I can use 640x480 at 72hz, 24-bit and 800x600 at 70hz, 24-bit, all non-interlaced. b) Yes - According to PC Magazine, they've tested a local bus version that does 1024x768 in 24-bit which may or may not be interlaced. c) Not for the Pro. Sometimes for the Plus. Some modes may run only interlaced on certain monitors. This has nothing to do with 24 bits ... only with screen size. Note that for 24 bit color and Windows you MUST have 2 megs, memory size calculations notwithstanding. > 4) The latest build 59 drivers still do not work in many > cases. a) They aren't perfect, but are much improved. I don't recall the last time which I had to leave mach 32 mode (ATI GUP mode) and switch to 8514 or VGA mode due to software incompatibility. b) True. Many people recommended going back to Build 55 or 54. c) They appear to be excellent, but have a few bugs. For example, certain graphs with dashed lines in Mathcad 3.1 do not print correctly, though they do display OK on the screen. They are about par for fancy cards .. other accelerated cards also have bugs. d) Overall, I like the card, even if driver performance is somewhat less than satisfactory. I am running the 1024*768 16 Color mode as that is all my NT driver for October NT version seems to allow. I will say this that Color performance is not quite as nice as a Diamond Stealth VRAM, but I have not been able to try out a lot of the options on the old driver. > 5) This card is the fastest full colour card for the money. a) It's quite fast, but whether or not its the fastest is open to debate. b) Yes - I'll admit it was very very fast in 16-bit mode, which is what I wanted to use it for. Too bad it crashed (in many different ways) every 20 minutes or so... c) Depends on many many things. > 6) This card is the greatest thing since sliced bread. ;-) a) I like it. b) Well - PC Magazine seems to think it is. c) Yes, this appears to be true :-) d) As to greatest thing since sliced bread, I doubt it. Better cards are coming out. Who knows, maybe ATI will come out with something faster yet. Several reviews I read rated one Pycon Winjet card as a superior performer at a cheaper price except for availability of drivers, which Pycon was developing at that time. (PC Magazine, about two months or so back) Overall, the card has a lot of potential, but you have to be able to use it. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- That is the end of the questions. These were the most discussed items in this group so I thought they needed confirmation. For those of you not familiar with the card I have included a summary here (from an ATI ad since I don't have an Graphics Ultra yet.) ATI Graphics Ultra Plus: - Accelerated 1024x768 at 65K colours - True colour(16.7M) at 800x600 - Multimedia Video Acceleration (for Indeo Video,RLE and Video 1 compressed) Stretch full motion video windows to full size - Fast VGA - Includes 3 button mouse (ISA versions only) - Anti-aliased fonts (ed. avail in 16 colour mode only,I think) - Real-time pan and zoom across large virtual windows desktop - Around a 1/2 length card size - Priced from $400 U.S. ATI Graphics Ultra Pro: - Everything in Graphics Ultra Plus - Faster performance with VRAMS - Accelerated 1280x1024 at 256 colours 74Hz non-interlaced - Available in ISA, EISA and Microchannel - Priced from $600 U.S. ATI Technologies (416) 756-0718 I hope this summary can be of use to you. Al P.S. I am not associated with ATI Technologies in any way other than having used their previous ATI Ultra card for a few years (which I generally liked). -- Alan Walford Eos Systems Inc., Vancouver,B.C., Canada Tel: 604-734-8655 aew@eosvcr.wimsey.bc.ca OR ...uunet!wimsey.bc.ca!eosvcr!aew

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In article <BSON.93Apr22060320@nutrimat.gnu.ai.mit.edu> bson@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Jan Brittenson) writes: > > Which doesn't mean much since the statistics are mostly based on >the 5-game playoff format. But, yes, it looks dark for the B's. What a >disappointment. The Fat Lady is about to hit the first note...Okay,how about 3-0 deficits? The B's chances for a comeback are now less 1%(That's based on 7-game playoff format)... > Who do you think gets the start in game three? I hope it is going >to be Blue. If the team can rally around him, maybe Moog can too. He got the start but the headlines on all Boston local TV sportscats said it all : "Sutter Blue It!". And he did. Harry Sinden's appearance outside of B's dressing room after Game 3 was a pathetic site. He said something really retarded to cover Sutter's behind,"This game is not about winning or losing..". Harry,check the schedule! Your team is in the playoffs and about to go on a long summer vacation on Sunday morning! Harry and his buttkisser Milbury will never admit that they screwed up in a major way when they brought in one of the dumbest people in the business,Brian Sutter. Sutter's playoff record as the head coach in St.Louis speaks for itself. The Blues really have a chance to advance to the second round this year... -PPV Mark

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In article <13651@news.duke.edu> connie@acpub.duke.edu (Connie) writes: >>If anyone has any information about the upcoming new computers >>(Cyclone and Tempest), I am in need of some info. Anything would be >>greatly appreciated. > >>-Shawn >>breedsa@wkuvx1.bitnet > >According to MacWeek of 2-22-93: [ description deleted] any idea on prices?? Thanks, JT

4comp.sys.mac.hardware

I recently backed out of purchasing an almost-unused Sony TCD-D3 DAT Walkman, having found someone else who has a unit I personally prefer (and am paying more for). However, it's still a heck of a machine for the price -- it is quite rugged, and many people out there swear by it. (It's probably the most popular walkman-style DAT machine out there.) Anyway, the guy selling it is Bryan Davis (bdavis@netcom.com), and here's what he told me: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is what is included: - TCD-D3 DATman. - (2) RCA to Stereo 1/8" plug cables. One for analog input, one for analog output. - Optical digital I/O cable (one lead for input, one for output). - A copy of my sales receipt with a note about your purchase. The unit is still under factory warrantee. - AC adaptor/battery charger. - Rechargable battery. I paid $750 + tax for it so I hope you don't mind if I keep the 60 minute tape it came with (I have some samples on it!). [By the way, he spent at least $100 too much for it, unless he's including an extended warranty, which is advised for DAT machines, since it costs about $300 to replace the head when it wears out, and it probably will within 5 years if you use it a lot.. -- davisonj] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm not going to quote my sale price for him: that would not be nice. Send him mail and ask him what he wants. Again, I've used the TCD-D3, and I have to say that I can certainly understand why it is as popular as it is. I've been using one for a little while, and although I had some problems with it recently, I should also point out that the particular one I was using had been on the road for two years and had truly been _used_ during that time. (This is the same exact DAT machine that was lugged around the U.S. and Canada to record the Jazz Butcher Conspiracy for their recent live album.) Bryan Davis says: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I know at least half a dozen professional musicians and record labels in S.F who use that model (and have been for a while) with no reported problem. My problem is that everyone I know already has one. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'nuff said. The reason I'm not getting it is that I found someone else selling me a unit that features phono-plug SPDIF I/O instead of optical (I don't have any optical ports on my equipment, but you, the reader, might), and it also has some other bells & whistles that the TCD-D3 doesn't. (I am also paying more for the alternative.) Note that phono-plug-to-optical SPDIF adapters are available if you absolutely must have one. Of course, it has SCMS. All consumer decks do. (So do Sony Minidiscs, by the way.) Anyway, if you're interested, get in touch with bdavis@netcom.com. -- John Davison davisonj@ecn.purdue.edu

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In article <16APR199317110543@rigel.tamu.edu> gmw0622@rigel.tamu.edu (Mr. Grinch) writes: >In article <1993Apr15.170731.8797@isc-br.isc-br.com>, steveh@thor.isc-br.com (Steve Hendricks) writes... > >> >:This is a strawman argument and fails on several grounds. In this case, >:"limited" and "big" government are not defined. I would point out that >:Lebanon, Somalia, and the former Yugoslavia are by some definitions nations >:with "limited" government, while the US, Canada, and nations in Western >:Europe (where "people would rather live") are often pointed out as >:nations with "big government" from a libertarian point of view. > >Well, let me help by explaining the difference between a linited government >and a failed government. A limited government has its powers clearly >circumscribed, but is fully capable of enforcing its decisions within >those circumscribed areas. A failed government is incapable of >enforcing its decisions except sporadicly. Two completely different beasts. Of course, one again faces the question of how one circumscribes government power (and keeps it circumscribed) in a complex society when it is in the interest of neither capitalists nor consumers to refrain from using government power for their own ends. But apart from that little conundrum... It would seem that a society with a "failed" government would be an ideal setting for libertarian ideals to be implemented. Now why do you suppose that never seems to occur?... > >> >:The argument is not between those who want "limited" government and those >:who want "unlimited" government. It is between those who believe >:government regulation in a capitalist economy serves worthwhile ends and >:those who believe such regulation is neither desirable on empirical >:grounds nor justifiable on ideological grounds. > > >..."regulation" is such a vauge word... I wouldn't call it "vague." I'd call it elastic. All "regulation" is not necessarily the same. By opposing all government regulation, some libertarians treat every system from a command economy to those that regulate relatively free markets as identical. That's one reason many of the rest of us find their analysis to be simplistic. jsh >Mr. Grinch -- Steve Hendricks | DOMAIN: steveh@thor.ISC-BR.COM "One thing about data, it sure does cut| UUCP: ...!uunet!isc-br!thor!steveh the bulls**t." - R. Hofferbert | Ma Bell: 509 838-8826

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>My '66 Ford has vent windows operated by a crank, just like a window >(only it opened out, like a normal vent window). My '70 F100, my >dad's '84 Bronco, and pretty much every truck I've seen that's >worth riding in has vent windows. > >Does that mean that I'm not a young feller anymore? :-) > > James > >James P. Callison Microcomputer Coordinator, U of Oklahoma Law Center I don't understand the fascination with vent windows. They create a tremendous turbulence and noise that makes even a simple connversation impossible at speeds above 40mph. The current flow-throuh ventilation, if designed right, are far more superior. Bijan

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I tried to E-mail you, but the message bounced. Motorola has a University Support Program through which (I've been told) folks at schools can get sample quantities of parts. If you'd like to try this route, e-mail me for the address/phone #...I don't wish to post it for all the world to see. Dick Young Motorola, Inc. (Who doesn't have a thing to do with my opinions: They're my own fault.)

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Mamatha Devineni Ratnam <mr47+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: >So far Simmons looks like a total idiot. Whatever you say. I think it's just 12 games into the season myself, so I'm going to wait a bit before calling names. >2) I am sure Simmons was ready to say I told you so after Otto had an >impressive win last week. Now Otto's latest debacle has restored Simmons' >reputation. Now he looks like he is back in his '92 form when he had the >AL's highest ERA among starters. Four our sake(not Ted's sake), I hope he >pitches with a 3.5 ERA for the rest of the season. Yeah, right. I expect that Dave Otto will be a really bad pitcher, and I have no idea why Simmons ever wanted him. On the other hand, I expect him to release Otto if he doesn't turn things around pretty fast. (BTW, Otto's game score for that 0 IP stinker was only 22, which points out a problem with the method since Otto's performance was infinitely bad, and excruciatingly prolonged.) >3) Tomlin and Merced are a bit disappointing. They are still doing decently. >But considering the considerable amount of talent and maturity they have >shown their first seasons, they seem to have actually gotten a little >bit worse. I think Merced's rookie year was a bit flukey, but aren't you willing to give him some more at bats (and Tomlin a few more starts) before acting so gloomy? >4) Walk: Well, he seems to be on the losing end tonight. BUt I still think >that Walk desrved his contract. No he didn't. Walk is a time bomb. He has no stuff whatsoever, and when the league finally realizes this, it won't be pretty at all. >8) The Rookie batters: Well, Young has surprised me a bit with his >instant impact. Other than that, their excellent performance hasn't >been too much of a surprise. I think we should thank Doughty for that. Don't be so fast. Doughty is the guy who signed Steve Buechele, which was a move that threatened to bury Kevin Young in the minors. Meanwhile, I'm not sure whether Doughty or Simmons signed Martin as a six-year free agent before the 1992 season. >9) Rookie Pitchers: Worse than expected, especially Cooke. Twice through the rotation, and you've given up? Yikes. >10) Slaught: How come he wasn't given a contract extension last year? >Now his value has increased immensely. But so has his age, at least in baseball terms. The useful half-life of a 34- year-old injury-prone catcher can't be much longer than a year. >11) Lonnie Smith!! Well, Eric Davis was signed for a comparable amount. But he wanted to be a Dodger, and felt he had something to prove after his disastrous 1992. I don't think there was any chance for the Bucs to sign him. >Let's see. Eric can hit better. He can run better. He can field better. >Now why didnt the PIrates go after Eric Davis. An injured Davis is better >than a healthy Lonnie Smith. He certainly wasn't last year. >Even if Lonnnie Smith gets some big hits this year,he won't be an asset. >He has looked terrible on the bases and in the field. Hey, that's the "Skates Smith" package deal. Anybody who acquires Lonnie for his defense or base-running (particularly at this stage) is a real weirdo. >12) Management: BIG BIG ZERO. Sauer has yet to make a forceful argument >in favor of revenue sharing. He seems more concerned about pleasing that >idiot Danforth by preparing the team for a move to Tampa Bay. If that's the goal of the team ownership, than I don't see why Sauer gets a zero for making his boss happy. I don't know what he has or hasn't said about revenue sharing, so I can't comment there. >13) Alex Cole fiasco. > [stuff deleted] >Ironically, the biggest accomplishment of Simmons' tenure was >getting Alex Cole really cheap. Too bad. [that he gave him away in the >expansion draft.] It's annoying, but since Leyland seems to have been pushing for them to retain Jeff King, it was probably unavoidable. Meanwhile, I think bigger accomplishments of Simmons' tenure were getting some value for John Smiley, not trading real prospects for veterans down the stretch last year, drafting well in 1992, letting the rookies show something in 1993. Foley, Smith, and Candelaria were acquired to be replacement parts, which means that even if fail it hasn't done serious damage to the Bucs' future. >14) Compensatory draft picks for Bonds: Forget it. The pirates can rant >and rave. they will not get those picks. As of now, the issue is still >being appealed. Does this mean that the Bucs lost the initial arbitration case? I never heard the outcome of this. When will the final verdict be in on this? >Now, if this doesnt convince anyone that Simmons and Sauer are idiots, >nothing else will. I'm not sure who was the idiot in this case, so I don't know who to blame. It might have been Doug Danforth, after all. In fact, I *seriously* suspect it was Doug Danforth, who has shown his willingness to call the shots at exactly those moments when the gun is pointed at his feet. (btw--I've wondered whether my latest posts have been getting off-site, so if somebody known to impersonate e.e. cummings can see this, would he drop me a short note?) jking

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In article <1993Apr21.132318.16981@ulysses.att.com> smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin) writes: > And key size is one of the things that can be > verified externally. Gee. Say they feed the 80-bit key through Snefru-8 and take the first 60 bits of the result, then use those 60 bits as the real key. How do you figure out that each key is one of 2^20 ``equal'' keys? You can try a birthday attack, but if the key can be changed only once a second then you will need several lifetimes to get reliable statistics. Somehow I don't think you could catch the NSA at this sort of skulduggery. ---Dan

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Recently, my video monitor went dead, no picture, some low distorted sound. I didn't hear the tell-tale cracking that indicated HV at work, nor are the filaments at the far end of the tube glowing orange, just nothing. On examining the power board, I noticed the largest capacitor with a very bad bulge at the top. Naturally, I want to replace it, but I can't find any sources. The electrolytic capacitor is 330 mF at 250WV. It has radial leads, and is roughly 1 1/2 inches long, 1 1/8" wide. The dimensions are important since the whole board fits in a metal cage, leaving little room. Living in the Los Angeles area, I've been to numerous stores (Dow Radio, All Electronics, ITC Elect, Sandy's, Yale Elect) with empty hands. Can anyone suggest sources for high-voltage capacitors? Mail order is fine, although I'd rather check out a store to compare the can. I'm going to try a video electronics store, hopefully they'll have HV caps. (By the way, the monitor is a ATARI SC1224, Goldstar circuitry, Masushita tube. Anyone else had problems?) Thanks in advance, Rich K. email> rkim@opus.calstatela.edu

12sci.electronics

I have some Desert Storm cards for sale. I have divided them up into two lots. I will take the highest bid before 4/30/93. Just drop me a line with your bid. Lot #1 Desert Storm (Coalition for Peace, Topps) cards# 38,3,16,28(S),8(S),71,30,34*2,69,48,2,79,15,16(S),66,69,17,21,26 85,25,17(S),18,6,86,23,49 2nd series(Topps) cards# 118,111,92,104,115,160,95,162,31(S),136,110,123 147,107,164,108,170 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lot #2 Desert Storm (Pro Set) cards# 44,87,120,196,229,19,74,121,153,208,47,100,150,187,13,58,178,217 22,94,142,197,227,4,108,174,228,6,89,137,190,205,23,82,128,199,211 (S) - Sticker card Sam 02106@chopin.udel.edu

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In article 0@elan.rowan.edu, cassidy@elan.rowan.edu (Kyle Cassidy) writes: >...and i see that for the past 30 miles >i've been riding with my side stand down. OOPS! And who was it that insisted sidestand cutout switches were right up there with tachometers, something like a curse from God? --- Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker, Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM |and I showed him a picture of you. I said, DoD #0111 (919)460-8302 |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!" (The Grateful Dead) --> |It seemed like the least I could do...

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Is it just me or is the camera work on some of these games really sad?? I can't remember how many times during the Penguins-Devils game they showed some guy (without the puck) being checked in the corner while the puck was being fired on goal. In fact, I think they even missed one goal completely because they were showing two guys holding each other in the corner. Now the last time I watched a football game, they didn't show the lineman going at it while the running back turned the corner for a touchdown . . . . Is it just me?? Greg

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PC GAMES FOR SALE...... Both Games in original package and original docs. Jordan In Flight $30 +S&H Test Drive 3 $15 + S&H Or OBO Contact Bob at... 708-979-6164 rwrona@ihlpb.att.com

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Hockey-tipset, V}ren 1993: ========================== *#*#*#*#* Vinnare av Hockey-tipset 1993... Per Bengtson!!! Grattis! *#*#*#*#* Slutst{llning: 1. Per Bengtson 15 2. Lars Andersson 13 3. Anders Engwall 11 4. Staffan Axelsson 10 Patrik ]sander 10 6. Hannu L A Hietanen 9 Ingvar Khan 9 8. noran@cs.tut.fi 8 Jan Stein 8 Roger Wennstr|m 8 11.Lars Thore Aarhus 7 Fredrik Nissen 7 Marek Repinski 7 Lars Wiklund 7 15.Lennart Hedenstr|m 6 Vinnare och lycklig {gare av en FBK-mugg {r allts} Per Bengtson, kometen som ledde hockeytipset 92 vid halvtid men som sedan fick ge vika f|r Anders Engwall i slutspurten. De tre f|rsta lyckades pricka in den viktiga fr}ga 1.4 SM-guld till Bryn{s. Kanske var det v{l sv}rt att tippa slutspelet ocks} men man ser att om den j{mna finalen mellan Lule} och Bryn{s ist{llet hade slutat till Lule}s f|rdel, s} hade det varit samma vinnare i alla fall. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- H{r f|ljer de korrekta svaren. Siffran inom parentes anger hur m}nga som hade tippat detta. * anger Per Bengtsons vinnande rad. 1. Elitserien 1.1 Tippa den slutgiltiga tabellen. 1. V{ster}s (7) 2. Bryn{s (2) * 3. Malm| (4) 4. F{rjestad (5) 5. MoDo (6) 6. Lule} (6) * 7. Leksand (2) * 8. Djurg}rden (2) * - - - - - - - - - - 9. HV 71 (11) * 10. R|gle (12) * 1.2 Vilka 4 av de 8 kvartsfinalisterna g}r vidare till semifinal? Djurg}rden (4) Lule} (9) Bryn{s (6) * Malm| (13) * 1.3 Vilka 2 lag m|ts i final? Lule} (5) Bryn{s (4) * 1.4 Vilka blir Svenska M{stare 92/93? (3p) Bryn{s (4) * ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. Allsvenskan 1. V{stra Fr|lunda (11) * 2. Huddinge (3) * - - - - - - - - - - - 3. Bj|rkl|ven (5) 4. AIK (5) * - - - - - - - - - - - 9. Team G{vle (1) 10. Boden (0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ((\\ //| Staffan Axelsson \\ //|| etxonss@ufsa.ericsson.se \\_))//-|| r.s.h. contact for Swedish hockey

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I am presently doing a masters thesis to do with traffic intersections in New Zealand but a lot of the books I am researching from, are from America or Australia and so I was wondering if anyone could please tell me what the road rules are in either country with regard to intersections. Thanks Julian Visch jsv@math.canterbury.ac.nz ________________________ ,---------+/ +----------+ \ / || | | | / || +----------+ | _________------=--<I|---------+----------------------------, .----=============|=========---=|=======================-->> | | ______ | | ______ | [| / _--_ \ / | / _--_ \ ] \__|| -__- ||___/_____________/_____________|| -__- ||_____/ \____/ \____/

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My wife's ob-gyn has an ultrasound machine in her office. When the doctor couldn't hear a fetal heartbeat (13 weeks) she used the ultrasound to see if everything was ok. (it was) On her next visit, my wife asked another doctor in the office if they read the ultrasounds themselves or if they had a radiologist read the pictures. The doctor very vehemently insisted that they were qualified to read the ultrasound and radiologists were NOT! My wife is concerned about this. She saw a TV show a couple months back (something like 20/20 or Dateline NBC, etc.) where an expert on fetal ultrasounds (a radiologist) was showing all the different deffects that could be detected using the ultrasound. Should my wife be concerned? Should we take the pictures to a radiologist for a second opinion? (and if so, where would we find such an expert in Chicago?) We don't really have any special medical reason to be concerned, but if a radiologist will be able to see things the ob-gyn can't, then I don't see why we shouldn't use one. Any thoughts? -- Doug Bank Private Systems Division dougb@ecs.comm.mot.com Motorola Communications Sector dougb@nwu.edu Schaumburg, Illinois dougb@casbah.acns.nwu.edu 708-576-8207

13sci.med

Desiree Bradley (Desiree_Bradley@mindlink.bc.ca) wrote: <. . .. : The next Sunday, the sermon was about Joshua 6 (where the Israelites : take Jericho and then proceed to massacre everybody there --- except : for Rahab, who had sheltered the spies). With those reports about : Bosnia in my mind, I felt uncomfortable about the minister saying that : the massacre (the one in Joshua) was right. But what really bothered : me was that, if I was going to try taking Christianity seriously, I : shouldn't be so troubled about the reports of "ethnic cleansing" in : Bosnia. Certainly, my sympathies shouldn't be with the Moslims. : Considering that the Bosnian Muslims are descendants of Christians : who, under Turkish rule, converted to Islam could the Serbs be doing : God's work? Perhaps it would be useful to ask whether those doing the ethnic cleansing could be said to be loving those they are killing in the very act of killing. Does it reflect the attitude of God, who sends rain to both the just and the unjust? If not, then Christians should be uncomfortable with it. Jesus gave his followers the law of love to follow and it is by exhibiting this that disciples will be known. Doctrinal (or political) correctness is not the standard, so I don't see why Christians should be moved against the Serbs because their ancestors converted from Christianity to Islam. It seems to me that as a Christian you _should_ be troubled by the ethnic cleansing. -- Peace, Scott Shalkowski scott@arts.uwa.edu.au

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In article <1993Apr9.041505.8593@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> djimenez@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Daniel Jimenez) writes: >Suppose we have a boolean function which is a minimal sum-of-products >(derived from a K-map or something), like this: >f(a,b,c,d) = bc'd' + acd' + abc' + ab'c > >The books on logic design I have consulted all seem to imply that this >is where the analysis ends ... But by factoring out the >`a' term in the function, we can get fewer gates: >f(a,b,c,d) = bc'd' + a(cd' + bc' + b'c), >which yields 9 gates. Yes, but... the minimization of gates is important in part because of TIMING considerations. A TTL gate has the basic structure of AND/OR/INVERT, and an inversion of a sum of a product is just exactly ONE gate delay. The reason to find a minimal sum of products is that this matches a hardware optimization. A positive-OR gate (such as the 9-gate solution uses) has TWO gate delays (and there's another gate delay in the second term) so that the second solution, while simpler in logic symbols, can be expected to be something less than optimal in the real world. ECL is similar to TTL, in that it can support an OR/AND gate with the minimum delay (unlike TTL, you get both true and inverse outputs for 'free' when using ECL). PALs are basically large programmable AND/OR/INVERT gates (with your choice of internal connections between the various sections, and perhaps some latches), so a minimum sum of products ALSO is a way to shoehorn a logic design into a few PALs. It's not comparably easy to design with a minimization of logic gates, but some software packages claim to allow you to do so, and will take just about any mess of gates (as a nodelist with 74xxx series logic ICs) and produce a description of a logic cell array to do the same job. Xilinx's XACT software does this by treating each logic block as a macro, and expanding it all out, then simplifying. John Whitmore

12sci.electronics

> >I downloaded the CompuServe GIF of the month. A raytraced image of >a golf ball next to a hole. Very nice, 640x480x256 bitmap, easily >converted to a Windows BMP. If anyone wants, I could upload a copy >on Cica... > Please do...and let us know specifics. (lest I'm the only one on this). Mickey -- pe-|| || MICHAEL PANAYIOTAKIS: louray@seas.gwu.edu ace|| || ...!uunet!seas.gwu.edu!louray |||| \/| *how do make a ms-windows .grp file reflect a HD directory??* \\\\ | "well I ain't always right, but I've never been wrong.."(gd)

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In article <1r6v3a$rj2@fg1.plk.af.mil>, ridout@bink.plk.af.mil (Brian S. Ridout) writes: |> In article <1993Apr15.134802.21995@mfltd.co.uk>, sts@mfltd.co.uk (Steve Sherwood (x5543)) writes: |> |> Has anyone got multiverse to work ? |> |> |> |> I have built it on 486 svr4, mips svr4s and Sun SparcStation. |> |> |> |> There seems to be many bugs in it. The 'dogfight' and 'dactyl' simply do nothing |> |> (After fixing a bug where a variable is defined twice in two different modules - One needed |> |> setting to static - else the client core-dumped) |> |> |> |> Steve |> |> -- |> |> |> |> Extn 5543, sts@mfltd.co.uk, !uunet!mfocus!sts |> |> +-----------------------------------+------------------------+ Micro Focus |> |> | Just like Pariah, I have no name, | rm -rf * | 26 West Street |> |> | Living in a blaze of obscurity, | "rum ruff splat" | Newbury |> |> | Need courage to survive the day. | | Berkshire |> |> +-----------------------------------+------------------------+ England |> |> (A)bort (R)etry (I)nfluence with large hammer |> I built it on a rs6000 (my only Motif machine) works fine. I added some objects |> into dogfight so I could get used to flying. This was very easy. |> All in all Cool!. |> Brian The RS6000 compiler is so forgiving, I think that if you mixed COBOL & pascal the C compiler still wouldn't complain. :-) Steve -- Extn 5543, sts@mfltd.co.uk, !uunet!mfocus!sts +-----------------------------------+------------------------+ Micro Focus | Just like Pariah, I have no name, | rm -rf * | 26 West Street | Living in a blaze of obscurity, | "rum ruff splat" | Newbury | Need courage to survive the day. | | Berkshire +-----------------------------------+------------------------+ England (A)bort (R)etry (I)nfluence with large hammer

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In <1993Apr19.022113.12134@ann-arbor.applicon.slb.com> colling@ann-arbor.applicon.slb.com (Michael Collingridge) writes: >And, while we are on the subject, has a captain ever been traded, >resigned, or been striped of his title during the season? Any other The Leafs have always been kind of comical. During the second Imlach era, when Darryl Sittler was called a "cancer on the team", he tore the C off his sweater and for a while the Leafs didn't have a Captain. Sittler eventually ended up in Philly and he was promised the Philly captaincy by new GM (and Sittler's friend) Bobby Clarke. Instead, Sittler got traded to Detroit. Rick Vaive was the Leaf Captain for awhile but he slept in one day and they took the captaincy away from him. Then he was traded to Chicago. During Doug Carpenter's tenure as Leaf coach, in an attempt to kiss the ass of a sulking Gary Leeman, the Leafs took the A away from Brad Marsh to give to Leeman. Leeman wouldn't take it and when they tried to give it back to Marsh, he wouldn't take it neither. The best story I remember about a captain concerned Mel Bridgman, late of the Senators. While he was in Philadelphia, Bobby Clarke, arguably one of the great captains of all time, was bumped up to the status of playing coach and so he had to relinquish the captaincy. Bridgman be- came the new captain. A reporter asked a Flyer what Bridgman did as a captain since Clarke was still the undisputed leader amongst the players. The reporter was told that Bridgman was in charge of making sure that the soap dispensers in the showers were always full. -- cordially, as always, maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca "So many morons... rm ...and so little time."

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In article <C5J5K1.w0@visgraph.uucp> forrie@visgraph.uucp (Forrest Aldrich) writes: > >For sale: Life Time membership to the Ballys'/Holiday Fitness club. The >original fee paid for this was over 1,000, and I'll sell it for 600. The >membership is fully transferrable via proper paperwork. > Does is include raquetball? Is it good at Espree? What is the annual fee? Thanks, John

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Clayton Cramer (cramer@optilink.COM) wrote: : [...] When you and the rest of the homosexual community : pass laws to impose your moral codes on me, by requiring me to : hire, rent to, or otherwise associate with a homosexual against : my will, yes, you are in my face. Until homosexuals stop trying : to impose their morals on me, I will be in your face about this. Ahh, what's good for the goose is not necessarily what's good for the gander. You don't want homosexuals to impose their moral codes (such diabolical ideas as equal rights) on you, yet you are willing to impose your moral codes on them. Do I detect a double standard? -garison

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> keng@den.mmc.com (Ken Garrido) writes: >> royc@rbdc.wsnc.org (Roy Crabtree) writes: >> >In article <keng.735334134@tunfaire> keng@den.mmc.com (Ken Garrido) writes: >> >[lotsa stuff taken out] >> >> >Bottom line: due process was not served. No peaceful attempt to serve >> >a warrant occurred. >> >> The peaceful attempt to serve the warrant was met with gunfire. Due process >> was not served because the Branch Davidians wanted it that way. >> >> *You* think on that. I am not exactly known as a Flower Child Pacifist, but lets call cowpoop cowpoop. "The peaceful attempt to serve the warrant" consisted of the following actions, in order: 1) BATF agents forcing their entry of the "compound" through second story windows. 2) BATF agents loosing some grenades (allegedly "stun" or "flash" grenades) which promptly detonated. *After* which, according to the tapes I have seen, the B-D started shooting back. Now exactly how is it that someone breaking into private property and tossing grenades around is considered "peaceful" by *anyone*? You *think* on that. (Which is not to say I do not still hold my previous and entirely correct notions about what should be worn and what arms should be used in assaulting a building.) -- Jeffrey S. Medkeff Bitnet- medkeffjs@hiramb PO Box 1098 Internet- medkeffjs@hiramb.hiram.edu Hiram, OH 44234 Pale Ebenezer thought it wrong to fight. But U.S.A. Roaring Bill (who killed him) thought it right.

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In article <C65oIL.436@vuse.vanderbilt.edu> alex@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Alexander P. Zijdenbos) writes: > >Reading through the posts about Kirlian (whatever spelling) >photography I couldn't help but being slightly disgusted by the >narrow-minded, "I know it all", "I don't believe what I can't see or >measure" attitude of many people out there. > >I am neither a real believer, nor a disbeliever when it comes to >so-called "paranormal" stuff; but as far as I'm concerned, it is just >as likely as the existence of, for instance, a god, which seems to be >quite accepted in our societies - without any scientific basis. > >I am convinced that it is a serious mistake to close your mind to >something, ANYTHING, simply because it doesn't fit your current frame >of reference. History shows that many great people, great scientists, >were people who kept an open mind - and were ridiculed by sceptics. > >Especially the USA should be grateful; after all, Columbus did not >drop off the edge of the earth. It is one thing to be open-minded about phenomona that have not be demonstrated to be false, and quite another to "believe" in something like Krilian photography, where *all* the claimed effects have be demonstrated to be artifacts. There is no longer any reason to adopt a "wait and see" attitude about Krilian photography, it has been experimentally shown to be nothing but simple coronal discharge. The "auras" shown by missing leaf parts came from moisture left by the original whole leaf, for example. That's what science is, son. ---Bill VanHorne

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In article F23@zoo.toronto.edu, henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes: >In article <1993Apr20.101044.2291@iti.org> aws@iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer) writes: >>This prize isn't big enough to warrent developing a SSTO, but it is >>enough to do it if the vehicle exists. > >Actually, there are people who will tell you that it *would* be enough >to do SSTO development, if done privately as a cut-rate operation. Of >course, they may be over-optimistic. > >You can also assume that a working SSTO would have other applications >that would help pay for its development costs. > >I'd be inclined to make the prize somewhat larger, but $1G might be enough. this all sounds like that Indecent Proposal movie. wouldn't there be a lot of people that would try this with little hope of working just to get the dough? if you have a 1:100 chance and it costs you $10Mil, then you might pay some stooge a few grand to be your lucky hero. just send up a few dozen and 1 is bound to survive enough to make YOU rich. --DonG

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kchupp@kchupp (Kevin Chupp) writes: >My father is have lots of problems with a 2 year old van. What is the >lemon law? What should he do if he qualifies? Talk to Philip Greenspun. He took Ford to court recently and, despite much manouvering and trickery on Ford's part, he won! Well, actually I think Ford settled out of court on the provision he shut his mouth and stopped causing them trouble. I love it when the little guy wins. I don't have Philip's address anymore, but a "Philip, where are you" call may bring him out of hiding. Cheers, Paul. -- Paul Heuer | Phone : +61 8 259 6453 | Avionics Technology - DSTO pzh@aeg.dsto.gov.au | FAX : +61 8 259 5507 | PO Box 1500, Salisbury | South Australia, 5108

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Kelly Roy Heth (kheth@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu) wrote: : : Hey, : : I'm about to purchase a DAT drive. Does anyone know which mail order vendors : offer DAT drives with HP's mechanism? What other mechanism is available out : there? Good, bad points? We bought one from Relax technologies. BIG mistake. The drive had some jumpers set incorrectly so it didn't work at first, and the software they shipped with it was incompatable with the drive (it was the new compression model), and worst of all, when I opened the drive up to fiddle with the jumpers, I found the inside of the case COVERED WITH METAL FILINGS!!! Sorry to shout. Apparently when they drilled the mounting holes in the case they forgot to clean it before putting the drive in. This was a HP drive, by the way, and is now working fine (knock on wood), no thanks to Relax technologies. Hey, your mileage may vary, but let me suggest that you NOT buy from Relax Technologies, even though their prices are usually about the lowest. --Dave ============================================================================== Dave Schwarze (schwarze@delphi.nosc.mil or NeXT mail schwarze@isenext2.saic.com) "Opinions expressed are just that" ==============================================================================

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Hi All! I would like to know what are the popular ICs of the type, their capabilities (# of channels et.c.) and prices :-) Great thanks, Andrew.

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I am aware of the restrictions imposed by the munitions act on the export of cryptographic technology, however, is it illegal to transmit encrypted data from the U.S. to another country? If so, then which laws apply to this situation? -- georgel@NeoSoft.com |                         George Livsey |  Visualize Whirrled Peas!  Net's Worth |                         (713) 994-0447

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>>>>> On 5 Apr 93 11:31:27 PDT, jan@camhpp12.mdcbbs.com (Jan Vandenbrande) said: Jan> Nntp-Posting-Host: 134.244.49.156 Jan> On a related note, how can I use xv to display colored GIFs on my Jan> root display with HP Vue? Jan> All I can do with Vue is display xbm's through their Jan> Backdrop Style Manager. Jan> xv does not seem to be able to override whatever Vue Jan> puts there. I suspect this is because VUE creates a window (probably OverrideRedirect) that is the size of (or larger than) the Root Window. Because the window manager does not know about this, you cannot move, resize etc. it. xv in the mean time is busy changing your root window to whatever you have requested but you never get to see it because VUE's window is overlaid on top of the root window. Contact HP support and see whether VUE can support coloured bitmap format such as xpm, if they cant then they probably create all their coloured backdrops inside the code. -- -Guy Singh, IXI Internet: guy@x.co.uk Vision Park UUCP: guy@ixi.uucp Cambridge Bang: ...!uunet!ixi!guy CB4 4ZR, UK Tel: +44 223 236 555

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yamauchi@ces.cwru.edu (Brian Yamauchi) writes: >enzo@research.canon.oz.au (Enzo Liguori) writes: >>WHAT'S NEW (in my opinion), Friday, 16 April 1993 Washington, DC >>1. SPACE BILLBOARDS! IS THIS ONE THE "SPINOFFS" WE WERE PROMISED? >>In 1950, science fiction writer Robert Heinlein published "The >>Man Who Sold the Moon," which involved a dispute over the sale of >>rights to the Moon for use as billboard. NASA has taken the firsteps toward this >>hideous vision of the future. Observers were >>startled this spring when a NASA launch vehicle arrived at the >>pad with "SCHWARZENEGGER" painted in huge block letters on the >>side of the booster rockets. Space Marketing Inc. had arranged >>for the ad to promote Arnold's latest movie. >Well, if you're going to get upset with this, you might as well direct >some of this moral outrage towards Glavcosmos as well. They pioneered >this capitalist application of booster adverts long before NASA. In fact, you can all direct your ire at the proper target by ingoring NASA altogether. The rocket is a commercial launch vechicle - a Conestoga flying a COMET payload. NASA is simply the primary customer. I believe SDIO has a small payload as well. The advertising space was sold by the owners of the rocket, who can do whatever they darn well please with it. In addition, these anonymous "observers" had no reason to be startled. The deal made Space News at least twice. >>Now, Space Marketing >>is working with University of Colorado and Livermore engineers on >>a plan to place a mile-long inflatable billboard in low-earth >>orbit. >>NASA would provide contractual launch services. However, >>since NASA bases its charge on seriously flawed cost estimates >>(WN 26 Mar 93) the taxpayers would bear most of the expense. >>Is NASA really supporting this junk? >And does anyone have any more details other than what was in the WN >news blip? How serious is this project? Is this just in the "wild >idea" stage or does it have real funding? I think its only fair to find that out before everyone starts having a hissy fit. The fact that they bothered to use the conditional tense suggests that it has not yet been approved. -- Josh Hopkins jbh55289@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu "Find a way or make one." -attributed to Hannibal

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In article <C6470D.4Iv@panix.com> mpoly@panix.com (Michael S. Polymenakos) writes: >In one of the categories (i believe it was the number of Turks feeling >"european") I made a typo, which I corrected with another posting right >afterwards. So what? Poor 'Poly'. I see you're preparing the groundwork for yet another retreat from your 'Arromdian-ASALA/SDPA/ARF' claims. >Hasan B. Mutlu and Serdar Argic has been posting >stuff that can only be attributed to typographical errors for the past Just love it. If that does ever happen, look out the window and see if there is a non-fascist/Nazi x-Soviet Armenian Government in the East. By the way, your ignorance on the Armenian genocide of 2.5 million Muslim people is hardly characteristic of most 'Arromdians'. Source: K. S. Papazian, "Patriotism Perverted," Baikar Press, Boston, 1934. pp. 17-18. "It seems that terrorism against their own co-nationals has been a prominent part of the revolutionary activities of the Dashnag leaders of the Caucasus. Organized to fight the Turks, these chieftains have been more successful in their fight against their Armenian opponents in Turkey, and the Caucasus, very often defenseless and innocent." p. 38. "The fact remains, however, that the leaders of the Turkish Armenian section of the Dashnagtzoutune did not carry out their promise of loyalty to the Turkish cause when the Turks entered the war...and a call was sent for Armenian volunteers to fight the Turks on the Caucasian front." p. 38. "Thousands of Armenians from all over the world, flocked to the standards of such famous fighters as Antranik, Kery, Dro, etc. The Armenian volunteer regiments rendered valuable service to the Russian Army in the years of 1914-15-16." Got a map? Got a minute? Source #1: McCarthy, J., "Muslims and Minorities, The Population of Ottoman Anatolia and the End of the Empire," New York University Press, New York, 1983, pp. 133-144. Source #2: Hovannisian, Richard G., "Armenia on the Road to Independence, 1918. University of California Press (Berkeley and Los Angeles), 1967, p. 13. Now where is your non-existent list of scholars and publicly available scholarly sources; here is mine. What an 'Arromdian'... SOME OF THE REFERENCES FROM EMINENT AUTHORS IN THE FIELD OF MIDDLE-EASTERN HISTORY AND EYEWITNESSES OF THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE OF 2.5 MILLION MUSLIMS 1. "The Armenian Revolutionary Movement" by Louise Nalbandian, University of California Press, Berkeley, Los Angeles, 1975 2. "Diplomacy of Imperialism 1890-1902" by William I. Lenger, Professor of History, Harward University, Boston, Alfred A. Knopt, New York, 1951 3. "Turkey in Europe" by Sir Charles Elliot, Edward & Arnold, London, 1900 4. "The Chatnam House Version and Other Middle-Eastern Studies" by Elie Kedouri, Praeger Publishers, New York, Washington, 1972 5. "The Rising Crescent" by Ernest Jackh, Farrar & Reinhart, Inc., New York & Toronto, 1944 6. "Spiritual and Political Evolutions in Islam" by Felix Valyi, Mogan, Paul, Trench & Truebner & Co., London, 1925 7. "The Struggle for Power in Moslem Asia" by E. Alexander Powell, The Century Co., New York, London, 1924 8. "Struggle for Transcaucasia" by Feruz Kazemzadeh, Yale University Press, New Haven, Conn., 1951 9. "History of the Ottoman Empire and Modern Turkey" (2 volumes) by Stanford J. Shaw, Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, New York, Melbourne, 1977 10."The Western Question in Greece and Turkey" by Arnold J. Toynbee, Constable & Co., Ltd., London, Bombay & Sydney, 1922 11."The Caliph's Last Heritage" by Sir Mark Sykes, Macmillan & Co., London, 1915 12."Men Are Like That" by Leonard A. Hartill, Bobbs Co., Indianapolis, 1928 13."Adventures in the Near East, 1918-22" by A. Rawlinson, Dodd, Meade & Co., 1925 14."World Alive, A Personal Story" by Robert Dunn, Crown Publishers, Inc., New York, 1952 15."From Sardarapat to Serves and Lousanne" by Avetis Aharonian, The Armenian Review Magazine, Volume 15 (Fall 1962) through 17 (Spring 1964) 16."Armenia on the Road to Independence" by Richard G. Hovanessian, University of California Press, Berkeley, California, 1967 17."The Rebirth of Turkey" by Clair Price, Thomas Seltzer, New York, 1923 18."Caucasian Battlefields" by W. B. Allen & Paul Muratoff, Cambridge, 1953 19."Partition of Turkey" by Harry N. Howard, H. Fertig, New York, 1966 20."The King-Crane Commission" by Harry N. Howard, Beirut, 1963 21."United States Policy and Partition of Turkey" by Laurence Evans, John Hopkins University Press, Baltimore, 1965 22."British Documents Related to Turkish War of Independence" by Gothard Jaeschke 1. 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This event is incontrovertibly proven by historians, government and international political leaders, such as U.S. Ambassador Mark Bristol, William Langer, Ambassador Layard, James Barton, Stanford Shaw, Arthur Chester, John Dewey, Robert Dunn, Papazian, Nalbandian, Ohanus Appressian, Jorge Blanco Villalta, General Nikolayef, General Bolkovitinof, General Prjevalski, General Odiselidze, Meguerditche, Kazimir, Motayef, Twerdokhlebof, General Hamelin, Rawlinson, Avetis Aharonian, Dr. Stephan Eshnanie, Varandian, General Bronsart, Arfa, Dr. Hamlin, Boghos Nubar, Sarkis Atamian, Katchaznouni, Rachel Bortnick, Halide Edip, McCarthy, W. B. Allen, Paul Muratoff and many others. J. C. Hurewitz, Professor of Government Emeritus, Former Director of the Middle East Institute (1971-1984), Columbia University. Bernard Lewis, Cleveland E. Dodge Professor of Near Eastern History, Princeton University. Halil Inalcik, University Professor of Ottoman History & Member of the American Academy of Arts & Sciences, University of Chicago. Peter Golden, Professor of History, Rutgers University, Newark. Stanford Shaw, Professor of History, University of California at Los Angeles. Thomas Naff, Professor of History & Director, Middle East Research Institute, University of Pennsylvania. Ronald Jennings, Associate Professor of History & Asian Studies, University of Illinois. Howard Reed, Professor of History, University of Connecticut. Dankwart Rustow, Distinguished University Professor of Political Science, City University Graduate School, New York. John Woods, Associate Professor of Middle Eastern History, University of Chicago. John Masson Smith, Jr., Professor of History, University of California at Berkeley. Alan Fisher, Professor of History, Michigan State University. Avigdor Levy, Professor of History, Brandeis University. Andreas G. E. Bodrogligetti, Professor of History, University of California at Los Angeles. Kathleen Burrill, Associate Professor of Turkish Studies, Columbia University. Roderic Davison, Professor of History, George Washington University. Walter Denny, Professor of History, University of Massachusetts. Caesar Farah, Professor of History, University of Minnesota. Tom Goodrich, Professor of History, Indiana University of Pennsylvania. Tibor Halasi-Kun, Professor Emeritus of Turkish Studies, Columbia University. Justin McCarthy, Professor of History, University of Louisville. Jon Mandaville, Professor of History, Portland State University (Oregon). Robert Olson, Professor of History, University of Kentucky. Madeline Zilfi, Professor of History, University of Maryland. James Stewart-Robinson, Professor of Turkish Studies, University of Michigan. .......so the list goes on and on and on..... Serdar Argic 'We closed the roads and mountain passes that might serve as ways of escape for the Turks and then proceeded in the work of extermination.' (Ohanus Appressian - 1919) 'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)

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------------- cut here ----------------- Volume 6, Number 10 April 20, 1993 +------------------------------------------------+ ! ! ! Health Info-Com Network ! ! Medical Newsletter ! +------------------------------------------------+ Editor: David Dodell, D.M.D. 10250 North 92nd Street, Suite 210, Scottsdale, Arizona 85258-4599 USA Telephone +1 (602) 860-1121 FAX +1 (602) 451-1165 Compilation Copyright 1993 by David Dodell, D.M.D. All rights Reserved. License is hereby granted to republish on electronic media for which no fees are charged, so long as the text of this copyright notice and license are attached intact to any and all republished portion or portions. The Health Info-Com Network Newsletter is distributed biweekly. Articles on a medical nature are welcomed. If you have an article, please contact the editor for information on how to submit it. If you are interested in joining the automated distribution system, please contact the editor. E-Mail Address: Editor: Internet: david@stat.com FidoNet = 1:114/15 Bitnet = ATW1H@ASUACAD LISTSERV = MEDNEWS@ASUACAD.BITNET (or internet: mednews@asuvm.inre.asu.edu) anonymous ftp = vm1.nodak.edu Notification List = hicn-notify-request@stat.com FAX Delivery = Contact Editor for information :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: T A B L E O F C O N T E N T S 1. Comments & News from the Editor OCR / Scanner News ................................................... 1 2. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention - MMWR [16 April 1993] Emerging Infectious Diseases ......................... 3 Outbreak of E. coli Infections from Hamburgers ....................... 5 Use of Smokeless Tobacoo Among Adults ................................ 10 Gonorrhea ............................................................ 14 Impact of Adult Safety-Belt Use on Children less than 11 years Age ... 17 Publication of CDC Surveillance Summaries ............................ 21 3. Clinical Research News High Tech Assisted Reproductive Technologies ......................... 24 4. Articles Low Levels Airborne Particles Linked to Serious Asthma Attacks ....... 29 NIH Consensus Development Conference on Melanoma ..................... 31 National Cancer Insitute Designated Cancer Centers ................... 32 5. General Announcments UCI Medical Education Software Repository ............................ 40 6. AIDS News Summaries AIDS Daily Summary April 12 to April 15, 1993 ........................ 41 7. AIDS/HIV Articles First HIV Vaccine Trial Begins in HIV-Infected Children .............. 47 New Evidence that the HIV Can Cause Disease Independently ............ 50 Clinical Consultation Telephone Service for AIDS ..................... 52 HICNet Medical Newsletter Page i Volume 6, Number 10 April 20, 1993 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Comments & News from the Editor :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: I would like to continue to thank everyone who has sent in a donation for the Mednews OCR/Scanner Fund. We have reached our goal! A Hewlett Packard Scanjet IIp was purchased this week. Thank you to the following individuals whose contributions I just received: John Sorenson Carol Sigelman Carla Moore Barbara Moose Judith Schrier Again, thank you to all who gave! I have been using Wordscan Plus for the past couple of weeks and would like to review the product. Wordscan Plus is a product of Calera Recognition Systems. It runs under Windows 3.1 and supports that Accufont Technology of the Hewlett Packard Scanners. When initially bringing up the software, it lets you select several options; (1) text / graphics (2) input source ie scanner, fax file, disk file (3) automatic versus manual decomposition of the scanned image. I like manual decomposition since the software then lets me select which parts of the document I would like scanned, and in what order. Once an image is scanned, you can bring up the Pop-Up image verification. The software gives you two "errors" at this point. Blue which are words that were converted reliability, but do not match anything in the built-in dictionary. Yellow shade, which are words that Wordscan Plus doesn't think it converted correctly at all. I have found that the software should give itself more credit. It is usually correct, instead of wrong. If a word is shaded blue, you can add it to your personal dictionary. The only problem is the personal dictionary will only handle about 200 words. I find this to be very limited, considering how many medical terms are not in a normal dictionary. After a document is converted, you can save it in a multitude of word processor formats. Also any images that were captured can be stored in a seperate TIFF or PCX file format. I was extremely impressed on the percent accuracy for fax files. I use HICNet Medical Newsletter Page 1 Volume 6, Number 10 April 20, 1993 an Intel Satisfaxtion card, which stores incoming faxs in a PCX/DCX format. While most of my faxes were received in "standard" mode (200x100 dpi), the accuracy of Wordscan Plus was excellent. Overall, a very impressive product. The only fault I could find is the limitations of the size of the user dictionary. 200 specialized words is just too small. If anyone has any specific questions, please do not hesitate to send me email. HICNet Medical Newsletter Page 2 Volume 6, Number 10 April 20, 1993 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention - MMWR :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Emerging Infectious Diseases ============================ SOURCE: MMWR 42(14) DATE: Apr 16, 1993 Introduction Despite predictions earlier this century that infectious diseases would soon be eliminated as a public health problem (1), infectious diseases remain the major cause of death worldwide and a leading cause of illness and death in the United States. Since the early 1970s, the U.S. public health system has been challenged by a myriad of newly identified pathogens and syndromes (e.g., Escherichia coli O157:H7, hepatitis C virus, human immunodeficiency virus, Legionnaires disease, Lyme disease, and toxic shock syndrome). The incidences of many diseases widely presumed to be under control, such as cholera, malaria, and tuberculosis (TB), have increased in many areas. Furthermore, control and prevention of infectious diseases are undermined by drug resistance in conditions such as gonorrhea, malaria, pneumococcal disease, salmonellosis, shigellosis, TB, and staphylococcal infections (2). Emerging infections place a disproportionate burden on immunocompromised persons, those in institutional settings (e.g., hospitals and child day care centers), and minority and underserved populations. The substantial economic burden of emerging infections on the U.S. health-care system could be reduced by more effective surveillance systems and targeted control and prevention programs (3). This issue of MMWR introduces a new series, "Emerging Infectious Diseases." Future articles will address these diseases, as well as surveillance, control, and prevention efforts by health-care providers and public health officials. This first article updates the ongoing investigation of an outbreak of E. coli O157:H7 in the western United States (4). References 1. Burnet M. Natural history of infectious disease. Cambridge, England: Cambridge University Press, 1963. 2. Kunin CM. Resistance to antimicrobial drugs -- a worldwide calamity. Ann Intern Med 1993;118:557-61. 3. Lederberg J, Shope RE, Oaks SC Jr, eds. Emerging infections: microbial threats to health in the United States. Washington, DC: National Academy Press, 1992. HICNet Medical Newsletter Page 3 Volume 6, Number 10 April 20, 1993 4. CDC. Preliminary report: foodborne outbreak of Escherichia coli O157:H7 infections from hamburgers --western United States, 1993. MMWR 1993;42:85-6. HICNet Medical Newsletter Page 4 Volume 6, Number 10 April 20, 1993 Update: Multistate Outbreak of Escherichia coli O157:H7 Infections from Hamburgers -- Western United States, 1992-1993 ======================================================= SOURCE: MMWR 42(14) DATE: Apr 16, 1993 From November 15, 1992, through February 28, 1993, more than 500 laboratory-confirmed infections with E. coli O157:H7 and four associated deaths occurred in four states -- Washington, Idaho, California, and Nevada. This report summarizes the findings from an ongoing investigation (1) that identified a multistate outbreak resulting from consumption of hamburgers from one restaurant chain. Washington On January 13, 1993, a physician reported to the Washington Department of Health a cluster of children with hemolytic uremic syndrome (HUS) and an increase in emergency room visits for bloody diarrhea. During January 16-17, a case-control study comparing 16 of the first cases of bloody diarrhea or postdiarrheal HUS identified with age- and neighborhood-matched controls implicated eating at chain A restaurants during the week before symptom onset (matched odds ratio OR=undefined; lower confidence limit=3.5). On January 18, a multistate recall of unused hamburger patties from chain A restaurants was initiated. As a result of publicity and case-finding efforts, during January- February 1993, 602 patients with bloody diarrhea or HUS were reported to the state health department. A total of 477 persons had illnesses meeting the case definition of culture-confirmed E. coli O157:H7 infection or postdiarrheal HUS (Figure 1). Of the 477 persons, 52 (11%) had close contact with a person with confirmed E. coli O157:H7 infection during the week preceding onset of symptoms. Of the remaining 425 persons, 372 (88%) reported eating in a chain A restaurant during the 9 days preceding onset of symptoms. Of the 338 patients who recalled what they ate in a chain A restaurant, 312 (92%) reported eating a regular-sized hamburger patty. Onsets of illness peaked from January 17 through January 20. Of the 477 casepatients, 144 (30%) were hospitalized; 30 developed HUS, and three died. The median age of patients was 7.5 years (range: 0-74 years). Idaho Following the outbreak report from Washington, the Division of Health, Idaho Department of Health and Welfare, identified 14 persons with culture- confirmed E. coli O157:H7 infection, with illness onset dates from December 11, 1992, through February 16, 1993 (Figure 2A). Four persons were hospitalized; one developed HUS. During the week preceding illness onset, 13 (93%) had eaten at a chain A restaurant. California In late December, the San Diego County Department of Health Services was notified of a child with E. coli O157:H7 infection who subsequently died. Active surveillance and record review then identified eight other persons with E. coli O157:H7 infections or HUS from mid-November through mid-January 1993. Four of the nine reportedly had recently eaten at a chain A restaurant and HICNet Medical Newsletter Page 5 Volume 6, Number 10 April 20, 1993 four at a chain B restaurant in San Diego. After the Washington outbreak was reported, reviews of medical records at five hospitals revealed an overall 27% increase in visits or admissions for diarrhea during December 1992 and January 1993 compared with the same period 1 year earlier. A case was defined as postdiarrheal HUS, bloody diarrhea that was culture negative or not cultured, or any diarrheal illness in which stool culture yielded E. coli O157:H7, with onset from November 15, 1992, through January 31, 1993. Illnesses of 34 patients met the case definition (Figure 2B). The outbreak strain was identified in stool specimens of six patients. Fourteen persons were hospitalized, seven developed HUS, and one child died. The median age of case-patients was 10 years (range: 1-58 years). A case-control study of the first 25 case-patients identified and age- and sex-matched community controls implicated eating at a chain A restaurant in San Diego (matched OR=13; 95% confidence interval CI=1.7-99). A study comparing case-patients who ate at chain A restaurants with well meal companions implicated regular- sized hamburger patties (matched OR=undefined; lower confidence limit=1.3). Chain B was not statistically associated with illness. Nevada On January 22, after receiving a report of a child with HUS who had eaten at a local chain A restaurant, the Clark County (Las Vegas) Health District issued a press release requesting that persons with recent bloody diarrhea contact the health department. A case was defined as postdiarrheal HUS, bloody diarrhea that was culture negative or not cultured, or any diarrheal illness with a stool culture yielding the Washington strain of E. coli O157:H7, with onset from December 1, 1992, through February 7, 1993. Because local laboratories were not using sorbitol MacConkey (SMAC) medium to screen stools for E. coli O157:H7, this organism was not identified in any patient. After SMAC medium was distributed, the outbreak strain was detected in the stool of one patient 38 days after illness onset. Of 58 persons whose illnesses met the case definition (Figure 2C), nine were hospitalized; three developed HUS. The median age was 30.5 years (range: 0-83 years). Analysis of the first 21 patients identified and age- and sex- matched community controls implicated eating at a chain A restaurant during the week preceding illness onset (matched OR=undefined; lower confidence limit=4.9). A case-control study using well meal companions of case-patients also implicated eating hamburgers at chain A (matched OR=6.0; 95% CI=0.7- 49.8). Other Investigation Findings During the outbreak, chain A restaurants in Washington linked with cases primarily were serving regular-sized hamburger patties produced on November 19, 1992; some of the same meat was used in "jumbo" patties produced on November 20, 1992. The outbreak strain of E. coli O157:H7 was isolated from 11 lots of patties produced on those two dates; these lots had been distributed to restaurants in all states where illness occurred. Approximately 272,672 (20%) of the implicated patties were recovered by the recall. A meat traceback by a CDC team identified five slaughter plants in the United States and one in Canada as the likely sources of carcasses used in the HICNet Medical Newsletter Page 6 Volume 6, Number 10 April 20, 1993 contaminated lots of meat and identified potential control points for reducing the likelihood of contamination. The animals slaughtered in domestic slaughter plants were traced to farms and auctions in six western states. No one slaughter plant or farm was identified as the source. Further investigation of cases related to secondary transmission in families and child day care settings is ongoing. Reported by: M Davis, DVM, C Osaki, MSPH, Seattle-King County Dept of Public Health; D Gordon, MS, MW Hinds, MD, Snohomish Health District, Everett; K Mottram, C Winegar, MPH, Tacoma-Pierce County Health Dept; ED Avner, MD, PI Tarr, MD, Dept of Pediatrics, D Jardine, MD, Depts of Anesthesiology and Pediatrics, Univ of Washington School of Medicine and Children's Hospital and Medical Center, Seattle; M Goldoft, MD, B Bartleson, MPH; J Lewis, JM Kobayashi, MD, State Epidemiologist, Washington Dept of Health. G Billman, MD, J Bradley, MD, Children's Hospital, San Diego; S Hunt, P Tanner, RES, M Ginsberg, MD, San Diego County Dept of Health Svcs; L Barrett, DVM, SB Werner, MD, GW Rutherford, III, MD, State Epidemiologist, California Dept of Health Svcs. RW Jue, Central District Health Dept, Boise; H Root, Southwest District Health Dept, Caldwell; D Brothers, MA, RL Chehey, MS, RH Hudson, PhD, Div of Health, Idaho State Public Health Laboratory, FR Dixon, MD, State Epidemiologist, Div of Health, Idaho Dept of Health and Welfare. DJ Maxson, Environmental Epidemiology Program, L Empey, PA, O Ravenholt, MD, VH Ueckart, DVM, Clark County Health District, Las Vegas; A DiSalvo, MD, Nevada State Public Health Laboratory; DS Kwalick, MD, R Salcido, MPH, D Brus, DVM, State Epidemiologist, Div of Health, Nevada State Dept of Human Resources. Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition, Food and Drug Administration. Food Safety Inspection Svc, Animal and Plant Health Inspection Svc, US Dept of Agriculture. Div of Field Epidemiology, Epidemiology Program Office; Enteric Diseases Br, Div of Bacterial and Mycotic Diseases, National Center for Infectious Diseases, CDC. Editorial Note: E. coli O157:H7 is a pathogenic gram-negative bacterium first identified as a cause of illness in 1982 during an outbreak of severe bloody diarrhea traced to contaminated hamburgers (2). This pathogen has since emerged as an important cause of both bloody diarrhea and HUS, the most common cause of acute renal failure in children. Outbreak investigations have linked most cases with the consumption of undercooked ground beef, although other food vehicles, including roast beef, raw milk, and apple cider, also have been implicated (3). Preliminary data from a CDC 2-year, nationwide, multicenter study revealed that when stools were routinely cultured for E. coli O157:H7 that organism was isolated more frequently than Shigella in four of 10 participating hospitals and was isolated from 7.8% of all bloody stools, a higher rate than for any other pathogen. Infection with E. coli O157:H7 often is not recognized because most clinical laboratories do not routinely culture stools for this organism on HICNet Medical Newsletter Page 7 Volume 6, Number 10 April 20, 1993 SMAC medium, and many clinicians are unaware of the spectrum of illnesses associated with infection (4). The usual clinical manifestations are diarrhea (often bloody) and abdominal cramps; fever is infrequent. Younger age groups and the elderly are at highest risk for clinical manifestations and complications. Illness usually resolves after 6-8 days, but 2%-7% of patients develop HUS, which is characterized by hemolytic anemia, thrombocytopenia, renal failure, and a death rate of 3%-5%. This report illustrates the difficulties in recognizing community outbreaks of E. coli O157:H7 in the absence of routine surveillance. Despite the magnitude of this outbreak, the problem may not have been recognized in three states if the epidemiologic link had not been established in Washington (1). Clinical laboratories should routinely culture stool specimens from persons with bloody diarrhea or HUS for E. coli O157:H7 using SMAC agar (5). When infections with E. coli O157:H7 are identified, they should be reported to local health departments for further evaluation and, if necessary, public health action to prevent further cases. E. coli O157:H7 lives in the intestines of healthy cattle, and can contaminate meat during slaughter. CDC is collaborating with the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Food Safety Inspection Service to identify critical control points in processing as a component of a program to reduce the likelihood of pathogens such as E. coli O157:H7 entering the meat supply. Because slaughtering practices can result in contamination of raw meat with pathogens, and because the process of grinding beef may transfer pathogens from the surface of the meat to the interior, ground beef is likely to be internally contaminated. The optimal food protection practice is to cook ground beef thoroughly until the interior is no longer pink, and the juices are clear. In this outbreak, undercooking of hamburger patties likely played an important role. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has issued interim recommendations to increase the internal temperature for cooked hamburgers to 155 F (86.1 C) (FDA, personal communication, 1993). Regulatory actions stimulated by the outbreak described in this report and the recovery of thousands of contaminated patties before they could be consumed emphasize the value of rapid public health investigations of outbreaks. The public health impact and increasing frequency of isolation of this pathogen underscore the need for improved surveillance for infections caused by E. coli O157:H7 and for HUS to better define the epidemiology of E. coli O157:H7. References 1. CDC. Preliminary report: foodborne outbreak of Escherichia coli O157:H7 infections from hamburgers --western United States, 1993. MMWR 1993;42:85-6. 2. Riley LW, Remis RS, Helgerson SD, et al. Hemorrhagic colitis associated with a rare Escherichia coli serotype. N Engl J Med 1983;308:681-5. HICNet Medical Newsletter Page 8 Volume 6, Number 10 April 20, 1993 3. Griffin PM, Tauxe RV. The epidemiology of infections caused by Escherichia coli O157:H7, other enterohemorrhagic E. coli, and the associated hemolytic uremic syndrome. Epidemiol Rev 1991;13:60-98. 4. Griffin PM, Ostroff SM, Tauxe RV, et al. Illnesses associated with Escherichia coli O157:H7 infections: a broad clinical spectrum. Ann Intern Med 1988;109:705-12. 5. March SB, Ratnam S. Latex agglutination test HICNet Medical Newsletter Page 9 Volume 6, Number 10 April 20, 1993 Use of Smokeless Tobacco Among Adults -- United States, 1991 ======================================================= SOURCE: MMWR 42(14) DATE: Apr 16, 1993 Consumption of moist snuff and other smokeless tobacco products in the United States almost tripled from 1972 through 1991 (1). Long-term use of smokeless tobacco is associated with nicotine addiction and increased risk of oral cancer (2) -- the incidence of which could increase if young persons who currently use smokeless tobacco continue to use these products frequently (1). To monitor trends in the prevalence of use of smokeless tobacco products, CDC's 1991 National Health Interview Survey-Health Promotion and Disease Prevention supplement (NHIS-HPDP) collected information on snuff and chewing tobacco use and smoking from a representative sample of the U.S. civilian, noninstitutionalized population aged greater than or equal to 18 years. This report summarizes findings from this survey. The 1991 NHIS-HPDP supplement asked "Have you used snuff at least 20 times in your entire life?" and "Do you use snuff now?" Similar questions were asked about chewing tobacco use and cigarette smoking. Current users of smokeless tobacco were defined as those who reported snuff or chewing tobacco use at least 20 times and who reported using snuff or chewing tobacco at the time of the interview; former users were defined as those who reported having used snuff or chewing tobacco at least 20 times and not using either at the time of the interview. Ever users of smokeless tobacco included current and former users. Current smokers were defined as those who reported smoking at least 100 cigarettes and who were currently smoking and former smokers as those who reported having smoked at least 100 cigarettes and who were not smoking now. Ever smokers included current and former smokers. Data on smokeless tobacco use were available for 43,732 persons aged greater than or equal to 18 years and were adjusted for nonresponse and weighted to provide national estimates. Confidence intervals (CIs) were calculated by using standard errors generated by the Software for Survey Data Analysis (SUDAAN) (3). In 1991, an estimated 5.3 million (2.9%) U.S. adults were current users of smokeless tobacco, including 4.8 million (5.6%) men and 533,000 (0.6%) women. For all categories of comparison, the prevalence of smokeless tobacco use was substantially higher among men. For men, the prevalence of use was highest among those aged 18-24 years (Table 1); for women, the prevalence was highest among those aged greater than or equal to 75 years. The prevalence of smokeless tobacco use among men was highest among American Indians/Alaskan Natives and whites; the prevalence among women was highest among American Indians/Alaskan Natives and blacks. Among both men and women, prevalence of smokeless tobacco use declined with increasing education. Prevalence was substantially higher among residents of the southern United States and in rural areas. Although the prevalence of smokeless tobacco use was higher among HICNet Medical Newsletter Page 10 Volume 6, Number 10 April 20, 1993 men and women below the poverty level, * this difference was significant only for women (p less than 0.05) (Table 1). Among men, the prevalence of current use of snuff was highest among those aged 18-44 years but varied considerably by age; the prevalence of use of chewing tobacco was more evenly distributed by age group (Table 2). Although women rarely used smokeless tobacco, the prevalence of snuff use was highest among those aged greater than or equal to 75 years. An estimated 7.9 million (4.4% 95% CI=4.1-4.6) adults reported being former smokeless tobacco users. Among ever users, the proportion who were former smokeless tobacco users was 59.9% (95% CI=57.7-62.1). Among persons aged 18-24 years, the proportion of former users was lower among snuff users (56.2% 95% CI=49.4-63.0) than among chewing tobacco users (70.4% 95% CI=64.2-76.6). Among persons aged 45-64 years, the proportion of former users was similar for snuff (68.9% 95% CI=63.1-74.7) and chewing tobacco (73.5% 95% CI=68.9-78.1). Among current users of smokeless tobacco, 22.9% (95% CI=19.9-26.0) currently smoked, 33.3% (95% CI=30.0-36.5) formerly smoked, and 43.8% (95% CI=39.9-47.7) never smoked. In comparison, among current smokers, 2.6% (95% CI=2.3-3.0) were current users of smokeless tobacco. Daily use of smokeless tobacco was more common among snuff users (67.3% 95% CI=63.2-71.4) than among chewing tobacco users (45.1% 95% CI=40.6- 49.6). Reported by: Office on Smoking and Health, National Center for Chronic Disease Prevention and Health Promotion; Div of Health Interview Statistics, National Center for Health Statistics, CDC. Editorial Note: The findings in this report indicate that the use of smokeless tobacco was highest among young males. Adolescent and young adult males, in particular, are the target of marketing strategies by tobacco companies that link smokeless tobacco with athletic performance and virility. Use of oral snuff has risen markedly among professional baseball players, encouraging this behavior among adolescent and young adult males and increasing their risk for nicotine addiction, oral cancer, and other mouth disorders (4). Differences in the prevalence of smokeless tobacco use among racial/ethnic groups may be influenced by differences in educational levels and socioeconomic status as well as social and cultural phenomena that require further explanation. For example, targeted marketing practices may play a role in maintaining or increasing prevalence among some groups, and affecting the differential initiation of smokeless tobacco use by young persons (5,6). In this report, one concern is that nearly one fourth of current smokeless tobacco users also smoke cigarettes. In the 1991 NHIS-HPDP, the prevalence of cigarette smoking was higher among former smokeless tobacco users than among current and never smokeless tobacco users. In a previous study among college students, 18% of current smokeless tobacco users smoked HICNet Medical Newsletter Page 11 Volume 6, Number 10 April 20, 1993 occasionally (7). In addition, approximately 7% of adults who formerly smoked reported substituting other tobacco products for cigarettes in an effort to stop smoking (8). Health-care providers should recognize the potential health implications of concurrent smokeless tobacco and cigarette use. The national health objectives for the year 2000 have established special population target groups for the reduction of the prevalence of smokeless tobacco use, including males aged 12-24 years (to no more than 4% by the year 2000 objective 3.9) and American Indian/Alaskan Native youth (to no more than 10% by the year 2000 objective 3.9a) (9). Strategies to lower the prevalence of smokeless tobacco use include continued monitoring of smokeless tobacco use, integrating smoking and smokeless tobacco-control efforts, enforcing laws that restrict minors' access to tobacco, making excise taxes commensurate with those on cigarettes, encouraging health-care providers to routinely provide cessation advice and follow-up, providing school-based prevention and cessation interventions, and adopting policies that prohibit tobacco use on school property and at school-sponsored events (5). References 1. Office of Evaluations and Inspections. Spit tobacco and youth. Washington, DC: US Department of Health and Human Services, Office of the Inspector General, 1992; DHHS publication no. (OEI-06)92-00500. 2. National Institutes of Health. The health consequences of using smokeless tobacco: a report of the Advisory Committee to the Surgeon General. Bethesda, Maryland: US Department of Health and Human Services, Public Health Service, 1986; DHHS publication no. (NIH)86-2874. 3. Shah BV. Software for Survey Data Analysis (SUDAAN) version 5.30 Software documentation. Research Triangle Park, North Carolina: Research Triangle Institute, 1989. 4. Connolly GN, Orleans CT, Blum A. Snuffing tobacco out of sport. Am J Public Health 1992;82:351-3. 5. National Cancer Institute. Smokeless tobacco or health: an international perspective. Bethesda, Maryland: US Department of Health and Human Services, Public Health Service, National Institutes of Health, 1992; DHHS publication no. (NIH)92-3461. 6. Foreyt JP, Jackson AS, Squires WG, Hartung GH, Murray TD, Gotto AM. Psychological profile of college students who use smokeless tobacco. Addict Behav 1993;18:107-16. 7. Glover ED, Laflin M, Edwards SW. Age of initiation and switching patterns HICNet Medical Newsletter Page 12 Volume 6, Number 10 April 20, 1993 between smokeless tobacco and cigarettes among college students in the United States. Am J Public Health 1989;79:207-8. 8. CDC. Tobacco use in 1986: methods and tabulations from Adult Use of Tobacco Survey. Rockville, Maryland: US Department of Health and Human Services, Public Health Service, CDC, 1990; DHHS publication no. (OM)90-2004. 9. Public Health Service. Healthy people 2000: national health promotion and disease prevention objectives. Washington, DC: US Department of Health and Human Services, Public Health Service, 1991; DHHS publication no. (PHS)91- 50213. --------- end of part 1 ------------ --- Internet: david@stat.com FAX: +1 (602) 451-1165 Bitnet: ATW1H@ASUACAD FidoNet=> 1:114/15 Amateur Packet ax25: wb7tpy@wb7tpy.az.usa.na

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In article <1993Apr2.082500.28753@smds.com> rh@smds.com writes: > If I recall correctly there >are protist cells that can divide and multiply quite readily without >nuclear DNA. If memory serves me correctly this is the case with white >cells in the blood. [I rely on some indignant biologist to set me >straight.] As someone who works with protists, this does not strike me as being true. Are you confusing this with: 1) Ciliates which have a macronucleus and a micronucleus, each containing DNA (but in different amounts). The micronucleus is involved in mitosis and meiosis, the macronucleus seems to be the main "control center" of the cell; or 2) Two groups of unrelated protists, euglenoids and dinoflagellates, which seem to have permanently condensed chromosomes. How these groups read their DNA is quite a puzzle, as most models of how genes work involve the chromosomes being unwound. >-- >Richard Harter: SMDS Inc. Net address: rh@smds.com Phone: 508-369-7398 >US Mail: SMDS Inc., PO Box 555, Concord MA 01742. Fax: 508-369-8272 >In the fields of Hell where the grass grows high >Are the graves of dreams allowed to die. -- Joseph Boxhorn (jboxhorn@csd4.csd.uwm.edu) Department of Biological Sciences and Center for Great Lake Studies University of Wisconsin--Milwaukee

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In article <1993Apr20.183938.8024@news.columbia.edu> pes3@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Paul Eric Stoufflet) writes: >I thought that the Clipper Chip that was posted to t.p.g (sorry, I lost >the original post) was a joke. I really did. I didn't believe it for >a second. But on the way to work this morning, I heard about it on NPR. No joke. Here's another copy for you to save. NPR, hmmm? Did they mention the part about "The fact of law enforcement access to the escrowed keys will not be concealed from the American public." ...? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns >Path: dg-rtp!psinntp!uunet!news.claremont.edu!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!decwrl!pa.dec.com!uiboise.idbsu.edu!blh >From: blh@uiboise.idbsu.edu (Broward L. Horne) >Message-ID: <9304191630.AA03993@inet-gw-2.pa.dec.com> >Subject: Heil, Clinton >Date: Sun, 18 Apr 93 11:50:13 MDT >X-Received: by usenet.pa.dec.com; id AA21120; Mon, 19 Apr 93 09:30:51 -0700 >X-Received: by inet-gw-2.pa.dec.com; id AA03993; Mon, 19 Apr 93 09:30:17 -0700 >X-Received: by uiboise.idbsu.edu > (16.6/16.2) id AA01185; Sun, 18 Apr 93 11:50:14 -0600 >X-To: talk.politics.guns.usenet >X-Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] >Lines: 112 > > > Although the subject matter of this re-posting is not directly > related to talk.politics.guns, I believe that the information > here will be of interest to a large number of readers. > > Especially considering our latest BATF escapade. > >> From: clipper@csrc.ncsl.nist.gov (Clipper Chip Announcement) >> Subject: White House Public Encryption Management Fact Sheet >> Message-ID: <C5LGAz.250@dove.nist.gov> >> Sender: news@dove.nist.gov >> Organization: National Institute of Standards & Technology >> Distribution: na >> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 20:44:58 GMT >> Lines: 94 >> >> >> >> Note: The following was released by the White House today in >> conjunction with the announcement of the Clipper Chip >> encryption technology. >> >> FACT SHEET >> >> PUBLIC ENCRYPTION MANAGEMENT >> >> The President has approved a directive on "Public Encryption >> Management." The directive provides for the following: >> >> Advanced telecommunications and commercially available encryption >> are part of a wave of new computer and communications technology. >> Encryption products scramble information to protect the privacy of >> communications and data by preventing unauthorized access. >> Advanced telecommunications systems use digital technology to >> rapidly and precisely handle a high volume of communications. >> These advanced telecommunications systems are integral to the >> infrastructure needed to ensure economic competitiveness in the >> information age. >> >> Despite its benefits, new communications technology can also >> frustrate lawful government electronic surveillance. Sophisticated >> encryption can have this effect in the United States. When >> exported abroad, it can be used to thwart foreign intelligence >> activities critical to our national interests. In the past, it has >> been possible to preserve a government capability to conduct >> electronic surveillance in furtherance of legitimate law >> enforcement and national security interests, while at the same time >> protecting the privacy and civil liberties of all citizens. As >> encryption technology improves, doing so will require new, >> innovative approaches. >> >> In the area of communications encryption, the U. S. Government has >> developed a microcircuit that not only provides privacy through >> encryption that is substantially more robust than the current >> government standard, but also permits escrowing of the keys needed >> to unlock the encryption. The system for the escrowing of keys >> will allow the government to gain access to encrypted information >> only with appropriate legal authorization. >> >> To assist law enforcement and other government agencies to collect >> and decrypt, under legal authority, electronically transmitted >> information, I hereby direct the following action to be taken: >> >> INSTALLATION OF GOVERNMENT-DEVELOPED MICROCIRCUITS >> >> The Attorney General of the United States, or her representative, >> shall request manufacturers of communications hardware which >> incorporates encryption to install the U.S. government-developed >> key-escrow microcircuits in their products. The fact of law >> enforcement access to the escrowed keys will not be concealed from >> the American public. All appropriate steps shall be taken to >> ensure that any existing or future versions of the key-escrow >> microcircuit are made widely available to U.S. communications >> hardware manufacturers, consistent with the need to ensure the >> security of the key-escrow system. In making this decision, I do >> not intend to prevent the private sector from developing, or the >> government from approving, other microcircuits or algorithms that >> are equally effective in assuring both privacy and a secure key- >> escrow system. >> >> KEY-ESCROW >> >> The Attorney General shall make all arrangements with appropriate >> entities to hold the keys for the key-escrow microcircuits >> installed in communications equipment. In each case, the key >> holder must agree to strict security procedures to prevent >> unauthorized release of the keys. The keys shall be released only >> to government agencies that have established their authority to >> acquire the content of those communications that have been >> encrypted by devices containing the microcircuits. The Attorney >> General shall review for legal sufficiency the procedures by which >> an agency establishes its authority to acquire the content of such >> communications. >> >> PROCUREMENT AND USE OF ENCRYPTION DEVICES >> >> The Secretary of Commerce, in consultation with other appropriate >> U.S. agencies, shall initiate a process to write standards to >> facilitate the procurement and use of encryption devices fitted >> with key-escrow microcircuits in federal communications systems >> that process sensitive but unclassified information. I expect this >> process to proceed on a schedule that will permit promulgation of >> a final standard within six months of this directive. >> >> The Attorney General will procure and utilize encryption devices to >> the extent needed to preserve the government's ability to conduct >> lawful electronic surveillance and to fulfill the need for secure >> law enforcement communications. Further, the Attorney General >> shall utilize funds from the Department of Justice Asset Forfeiture >> Super Surplus Fund to effect this purchase. >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

16talk.politics.guns

In article <34592@oasys.dt.navy.mil> odell@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Bernard O'Dell) writes: >Being an old time Cardinal Fan-now relocated to the NVA area-I can >recall that Harry was not at all "popular" with old man Busch, who, >as I understand it, fired him and kicked him out of St. Louis. > >I am not quite sure of the reasons, but the old man was certainly >not "enraptured" by ole Harry. > >Bern O'Dell-- I grew up listening to Harry Carey call the Cardinals' games and really liked him--then. But, as I recall, he was fired because he was too critical (read: honest) when he was announcing. He dared to point out the Cards' miscues and such. At least, this is what I remember from when I was a kid. Kay Jones

9rec.sport.baseball

> O.K., so pick former Yugoslavia instead and say their problems are caused > by communism, it doesn't really matter. But I guess religious leaders are > calling for an end to that, too, so it can't be religiously motivated. This > despite the fact that the Christians carve crosses in dead Muslims chests. > Maybe they just want land. Maybe its something else they want. Maybe the > cross carvings are just accidental. I don't know. Just looks suspicious. Most likely the tragic situation in Bosnia is a combination of ethnical and religious motives, where religion is just one attribute that separates the groups from each other. But I must agree that the sad saga in Bosnia is a terrible example of a case where religion is not helping, instead it is used as a weapon against other humans. And my sympathies are mostly on the Bosnian side, it looks like the Serbs are the oppressors, willing to use even Christianity as a weapon against their former friends. Cheers, Kent --- sandvik@newton.apple.com. ALink: KSAND -- Private activities on the net.

0alt.atheism

He doesn't contradict himself. The church is to last for all time. However, there are those who use the church to bolster themselves. This is evident in many letters. For instance, Paul talks about the "super-apostles" to the Corinthians (2 Corinthians 11-12), he mentions how people will be led away by miracles, signs, and wonders (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12), he tells Timothy that it is clear that some will abandon the faith and teach lies (1 Timothy 4:1-3) and that some will search for teachers to suit what they want to hear (2 Timothy 4:3-4). Such passages go throughout the letters and Jesus does warn about them (Matthew 24:4-14). But look at the promise in this last part. Verse 14: "And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come." Even today, there are false teachings. I can name two which I am well familiar with: the non-need of baptism and the "praying of Jesus into your life for salvation". Both are taught. Both are DEAD wrong. They have been taken out of context from some verses, interpreted from others, and just plain made up. The ONLY way Jesus taught is given in Luke 9:23-26 and Luke 14:25-33. He then commands baptism in Matthew 28:18-20. The church Jesus founded, though, is alive and well. It's not being persecuted as much as back then (the laws won't allow it yet), but it is being persecuted. Joe Fisher > >Peace, >Lou > >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >+ Lou Nunez (e-mail lnunez@vaxa.stevens-tech.edu) + >+ + Ps 42(43):4 + Ps 90(91):5-6 + Dn 3:52-90 + Ml 1:11 + + >+ + Ad Altare Dei + Ad Deum Qui Laetificat Juventutem Meam + + >+ + 1Cor 4:15 + MT 16:13-19 + 1Cor 13:1-13 + Luke 10:25-37 + + >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

15soc.religion.christian

My son is considering the purchase of a 71 MGB, which has been substantially restored. The odometer has rolled over, but we can't be sure of the actual mileage. The engine and drive train apparently weren't touched in the restoration, except for a new carb and a few hoses. He plans to do vacuum and compression checks to see what they might tell us about the engine. The body and undercarriage have no visible rust, the interior is new, as are tires, front brakes (not sure about the back), battery, bumpers and other misc parts. The paint is checked in a few places, and scuffed here and there, allegedly by a wind-blown car cover. It seemed to handle OK, except for soft front shocks. Questions: Are there problem areas common to MGBs we should check out? The brakes seem soft and rather ineffective; what should we expect in the way of braking action? It seemed to be "doggy" when accelerating from a stop. What should we expect it to do, given the 4-cylinder engine? The top is in place, but will not reach a number of the snaps. The weather was cold. Should the vinyl stretch and fit when it warms up, or is it forever shrunk? Is it normal for the wire wheels to be painted, or are they usually chromed? Given this rather limited description, what would be a reasonable price? Gee, this turned out to be a little long--sorry. While my brother once owned an XK120 Jag (what a car!) we're obviously not into sports cars. Any help with these questions, or suggestions on other things to investigate would surely be appreciated. Phil Truesdale truesdal@david.wheaton.edu

7rec.autos

In article <C4v9E2.FG@hpuerca.atl.hp.com> mdf@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Mike Fox) writes: >Marc Rieffel (rieffel@cs.swarthmore.edu) wrote: >: Does anyone know anything about using an HP LaserJet Series 1 as a Mac >: printer? What kind of cables and drivers are necessary? >: > >I also would like similar information. I have a LaserJet IIp that I >would like to connect to a MAC. Any help would be appreciated. >-- >Mike Fox - HP Response Center > email: mdf@hpuerca.atl.hp.com Check out PowerPrint from GDT Softworks. Their ads are in MacWEEK and MacUser and Macworld. I did a review of PowerPrint/LT in a recent issue of MacWEEK. They are very good products, and GDT's tech support is also excellent. jas -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey A. Sullivan | Research Scientist et al. jas@isi.edu (Internet) | Information Sciences Institute 72511,402 (Compuserve) | University of Southern California

3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware

pat@rwing.UUCP (Pat Myrto) writes: >Well, maybe I AM overreacting. This is probably the best part of your post. Everything else is shrill speculation. Tom Gift tomgift@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

16talk.politics.guns

In article <1993Apr22.095736.1@hiramb.hiram.edu>, koutd@hiramb.hiram.edu (DOUGLA S KOU) writes: >Those VHS movies have to be sold because I am moving in 6 weeks. > >Douglas Kou How much room can 6 videotapes take up in the moving van? Why not just take them with you? -- ____________________________ BSME/MBA looking for a job....hiring? / | *----------------------------------------* E-mail: jwg0@Lehigh.edu | | Take a walk on the Wild side...Biffman Lehigh University /o)\ | *----------------------------------------* Bethlehem, PA USA \(o/ | J o H n G e W a R t O w S k I \____________________________|

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In article 5Iq@netcom.com, kasajian@netcom.com (Kenneth Kasajian) writes: } wnkretz@ikesg1.energietechnik.uni-stuttgart.de (Oliver Kretzschmar) writes: } } } } } Hey, } } } could somebody tell me, how it is possible to work with the mouse } } in a NON-Windows application, which runs in an window. We use } } MS-WINDOWS 3.1 and have CLIPPER applications. Exists there any } } routines or something else ? Please mail me your informations. } } } Thanks for your efforts, } } } Oliver } }-- } } NAME : O.Kretzschmar Inst.IKE / University Stuttgart } } PHONE: +49 711 685 2130 Pfaffenwaldring 31 } } FAX : +49 711 685 2010 7000 Stuttgart 80 } } EMAIL: wnkretz@ikesg1.energietechnik.uni-stuttgart.de } } Very simple. You have to have the MOUSE.COM or MOUSE.SYS loaded in DOS } before you run Windows. Note that you don't need to have these files loaded } to use the mouse in Windows. ... and you need a video driver which is completely Windows 3.1 compatible, and your mouse driver has to be completely compatible as well. Not quite so simple. (I never could get my logitech mouse to work 100% in a DOS window with my old Paradise card: now I have a Diamond SS24X and the 6.2 mouse drivers, and everything works perfectly). Steven M.

2comp.os.ms-windows.misc

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Editorial Contact: Single Source Marketing: Myra Manahan (714) 545-1338 Genoa Systems: Joseph Brunoli (408) 432-9090 Neil Roehm (408) 432-9090/Technical Genoa Presents High Performance Video Graphics Accelerator SAN JOSE, Calif USA -- Genoa Systems Corporation announces WINDOWSVGA 24, a True Color 24-bit graphics accelerator card that delivers up to 16.8 million colors at speeds faster than the competition. Plus it offers a full range of resolutions, high refresh rates as well as unique proprietary performance features. The card is available in both 16-bit ISA bus and 32-bit VESA Local bus versions (models 8500 AND 8500VL). With 1MB DRAM on board, the WINDOWSVGA 24 card offers maximum resolution up to 1,280 x 1,024 and supports a refresh rate of 72Hz at 800 x 600 and resolution up to 1,024 x 768 non-interlaced. Both models provide performance many times greater than standard SVGA boards, yet conform to all current video standards. WINDOWSVGA 24 features Genoa's FlickerFree(tm) technology, which eliminates screen flash and flicker to make viewing much more comfortable. the cards also come with Safescan(tm), a utility developed by Genoa to eliminate the black border around the screen and thereby provide 100-percent screen use for overscanning monitors. WINDOWSVGA model 8500VL takes full advantage of the speed offered by the new VESA Local bus technology. Most VL bus cards will only handle data transfers up to 33MHz, but the 8500VL will transfer data at the full speed of the CPU, up to 50MHz. Genoa is also offering this card in the "TurboBahn" combination packaged with their TURBOEXPRESS 486VL motherboard. Built around the Cirrus Logic GD-5426 GUI accelerator, WINDOWSVGA 24 offers the user an exceptional price/performance value. Genoa's advanced proprietary drivers act to "turbocharge" the chip, thereby providing an affordable accelerator card with power and performance that surpass many of the more highly priced chip cards. The Genoa user will enjoy optimal speed and reliability for such programs as Windows, AutoCAD, AutoShade, 3D Studio, OS/2, OrCAD and more. Driver updates and product bulletins are available on Genoa's BBS at (408) 943-1231. Genoa Systems manufactures and markets an extensive line of graphics adapters, motherboards, audio and multimedia cards for IBM-compatible personal computers. All products come with a two year limited warranty on parts and labor. Genoa products are currently distributed worldwide through authorized distributors, resellers, VARs and systems integrators. For more information contact Joe Brunoli, Marketing Manager, Genoa Systems at 75 E. Trimble Road, San Jose, Calif. 95131; Tel: (408) 432-9090 or (800) 934-3662; Fax: (408) 434-0997. -- Stefan Hartmann <stefanh@rahul.net>

1comp.graphics

In article <1993Apr23.163823.24226@ads.com> wmoore@ADS.COM (William Moore) writes: >Can anyone provide me a ftp site where I can obtain a online version >of the Book of Mormon. Please email the internet address if possible. I have a copy. Why are you interested? Lance -- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Lance W. Bledsoe lwb@im4u.cs.utexas.edu (512) 258-0112 | | "Ye shall know the TRUTH, and the TRUTH shall make you free." | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+

19talk.religion.misc

I recently installed dos 5.0 on a few machines, and the users claim that when they use the mouse often, the screen will blank, and the machine will lock up. There are no viruses, they are not running any TSR's. (the mouse is a logitec 2 button) Anybody got any ideas? thanks Mark mark@cs.msstate.edu

3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware

Would anyone have a few extra 3479P's lying around that I could buy off of them.. Problem is that around here I can only perchase them in $30 quantities, and I don't need this, and can't take this financially right now.... If anyone can accomodate me with this PLEASE reply to BOTH for the following mailing addresses... Thanks!!! _______________________________________________ | | _______ | Baden de Bari | / \ | baden@sys6626.bison.mb.ca | (| o o |) | baden@inqmind.bison.mb.ca | | ^ | | >> True life can only | \ -=- / | >> be experianced by | \_____/ | >> those who do not fear death. | -----------------------------------------------

12sci.electronics

I need some advice regarding monitor to use with Xfree86. I have an ET4000 based graphic card with 1 Meg of memory. I know this card is supported in Xfree86 because a friend of mine has one of these in his PC. His monitor is 17" colour capable of displaying 1280x1024 resolution. I cant afford this kind of expensive monitor. I heard from somewhere that Xfree86 requires multisync monitor with minimum horizontal scan frequency of 60KHz. Is this true? I would only like to use Xfree86 at resolution of 800x600 in 256 colours and so was thinking of buying a cheap 14" SVGA monitor. Interlaced (Cheap)14" SVGA monitors only have have maximum horizontal scan frequency of about 38KHz. Will this kind of monitor work with Xfree86? Please reply by email. Thaks in advance. arshad ================================================================================ Arshad Mahmood | Tel : 0344 850987 Siemens Nixdorf Information Systems Limited | Fax : 0344 850096 Siemens Nixdorf House | email : arshad@sni.co.uk Oldbury, Bracknell Berkshire RG12 4FZ England.

5comp.windows.x

In article <nagleC5w79E.7HL@netcom.com> nagle@netcom.com (John Nagle) writes: : Since the law requires that wiretaps be requested by the Executive :Branch and approved by the Judicial Branch, it seems clear that one :of the key registering bodies should be under the control of the :Judicial Branch. I suggest the Supreme Court, or, regionally, the :Courts of Appeal. More specifically, the offices of their Clerks. I've got a better idea. We give one set to the KGB c/o Washington embassy, and the other set to the Red chinese. G

11sci.crypt

In article <1qmdtlINNkrc@early-bird.think.com>, shaig@Think.COM (Shai Guday) writes: |> In article <1993Apr15.204930.9517@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>, hasan@McRCIM.McGill.EDU writes: |> |> |> |> In article <1993Apr15.055341.6075@nysernet.org>, astein@nysernet.org (Alan Stein) writes: |> |> |> I guess Hasan finally revealed the source of his claim that Israel |> |> |> diverted water from Lebanon--his imagination. |> |> |> -- |> |> |> Alan H. Stein astein@israel.nysernet.org |> |> Mr. water-head, |> |> i never said that israel diverted lebanese rivers, in fact i said that |> |> israel went into southern lebanon to make sure that no |> |> water is being used on the lebanese |> |> side, so that all water would run into Jordan river where there |> |> israel will use it !#$%^%&&*-head. |> |> Of course posting some hard evidence or facts is much more |> difficult. You have not bothered to substantiate this in |> any way. Basil, do you know of any evidence that would support |> this? I agree with Shai, there are many references to Israeli plans on the Litani river but I have yet to find hard evidence. I had mentioned before that there is a report commissioned by the UN to study the Litani river, it is still in draft form. The Israeli gov't also commissioned a study on the river that was done by Dr. Ben Wolfe. The Litani starts in the Bekaa valley in Lebanon, flows Southward, then West across South Lebanon and discharges into the Mediterranean near the city of Tyre. There are other rivers such as the Hasbani and the Wazzani that start in Lebanese territory than join the Jordan river. The most mentioned plan was one that would divert water from the Litani into these, then the water would flow naturally into the Lac De Houle. BUT there is no evidence of any diversion structure (which would need to be at least 3 km long). The area is mountainous, inaccessible and occupied by Israel so I have not seen any independent reports of the existence of any diversion structure there. Another often mentioned diversion is through deep wells. It is also rumored that Israe has 600 m wells tapping into deep aquifers and drawing water on the Israeli side of the border. If such wells are indeed under use they would be costly to operate (high energy costs) and the Lebanese and Israeli gov't should agree on the distribution of water from shared aquifers as part of an overall peace plan and the bilateral negociations on "regional issues". The fact that we have been at war all this time has led to the current state of affairs where withdrawals from such aquifers is completely unregulated. Basil |> |> Hasan |> |> -- |> Shai Guday | Stealth bombers, |> OS Software Engineer | |> Thinking Machines Corp. | the winged ninjas of the skies. |> Cambridge, MA |

17talk.politics.mideast

In article <speedy.153@engr.latech.edu> speedy@engr.latech.edu (Speedy Mercer) writes: >In article <2553@spam.maths.adelaide.edu.au> amydlak@spam.maths.adelaide.edu.au (Adam Mydlak) writes: >>[Squid deleted] > 5. Helment laws vary from state to state. In my state (Louisiana) it is >the law. I personaly, would not go 2 feet on a bike without one law or no >law. A helment will save your life. I'll go 2 feet, but I draw the line at 3. -- Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland bgardner@dsd.es.com

8rec.motorcycles

ILYESS B. BDIRA (benali@alcor.concordia.ca) wrote: > On the other side of the coin, give me an instance where the Muslims > killed non-Muslims, raped their families, and burned their houses, just > for the sake of it when they were a strong majority. Of course there have Hmmm... what about the genocide conducted by the Ottoman Empire aganist the Armenians living in Turkey. -- ************************************************* Joshua Klein INTERNET ADDRESSES Amherst College jaklein@unix.amherst.edu Amherst, MA jaklein@amherst.edu *************************************************

17talk.politics.mideast

James Sledd (jsledd@ssdc.sas.upenn.edu) wrote: : Are the Serbs doing the work of God? Hmm... : I've been wondering if anyone would ever ask the question, : Are the governments of the United States and Europe not moving : to end the ethnic cleansing by the Serbs because the targets are : muslims? : Can/Does God use those who are not following him to accomplish : tasks for him? Esp those tasks that are punative? : James Sledd : no cute sig.... but I'm working on it. Are you suggesting that God supports genocide? Perhaps the Germans were "punishing" Jews on God's behalf? Any God who works that way is indescribably evil, and unworthy of my worship or faith. revdak@netcom.com

15soc.religion.christian

Hello, I have a 92 Toyota 4X4 and in the last few weeks I have been getting quite a few "dings" :( in the paint on the hood from rocks and debris off of the road. I have never had any major problems with other car/trucks in the past (maybe a ding once in a while). I went to the dealer and he said that it happens all of the time and he recomended putting a bug deflector on the hood. He said that the trucks, for some unknown reason, seem to have this problem more than some cars.? It seems to me that either my luck is really bad or there might be a problem with the paint (painted on a monday morning perhaps?). How well do these bug deflectors work for small road debris on trucks? If anyone has any experiences/suggestions please let me know, thanks. --Greg thorn@wam.umd.edu

7rec.autos

Is there a way to connect a PowerBook 145, Mac IIsi, and Personal LaserWriter LS so that I can (not necessarily silmultaneoulsy) print from either the IIsi, or PB, and file share between the IIsi and PB? I know I can get the ($expensive$) LW NT upgrade for my LS, but I can't afford that... Thanks, Mark

4comp.sys.mac.hardware

Maxtor XT8670S 660 MB SCSI Drive 16ms access time 2 years old External Casing $777 ja2f+@andrew.cmu.edu 412-268-7505

6misc.forsale

Just wanted to let all the people who e-mailed me about a possible Cardinals mailing list that I wasn't able to get the OK to host the list here so someone else will have to do it. :-( Many thanks to Bob Netherton for his helpful info. Dick Detweiler

9rec.sport.baseball

In <1993Apr5.130317.8175@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca writes: > In article <1porp4$1c0@zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk> nmcglynn@axion.bt.co.uk writes: > > > >GB has now risen from nowhere to Pool A in 5 seasons. They pulled out of the > >World Championships in 1981, and did not re-enter until 1989 when we took part > >in Pool D. In 1990, we hosted Pool D and won all our game to progress to > >Pool C. In 1991 GB finished 5th in Pool C, and then last year we hosted > >Pool C, again winning all our games. Now after Pool B, GB won all 7 games > >and in now in Pool A. World Champions next year perhaps :-) > > > > Just goes to show you what using Canadians can do for a hockey team... > France, Italy, and now Great Britain all use a significant number of > Canadians on "their" hockey teams. Yup. Then again, there are lots of foreign-born players on the Canadian national soccer team so the Brits give something back to you in the end:-) --- For the record, former NY Rangers coach Ted "Darth" Sator recently led Lion Milan (Jari Kurri's former team, only the nickname's changed [Devils->Lion]) to their second straight Italian championship. They made the European Final Four last autumn after losing to Swedish champs Malmo in the semis...and accomplished this feat using FIFTEEN Canadian-born players!! Mamma mia! MARCU$ > Gerald >

10rec.sport.hockey

In article <1993Apr21.204521.21182@ultb.isc.rit.edu> adn6285@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes: >The sound he describes is common to any older Toyota engine I ever heard. >I don't know the relevance of his observations about oil changes, my simply >makes noise. Not all that annoying, mind you. But you hear it well when the >engine is right behind your left ear :-) i think those with 1.6 MR2's would describe the engine as sweet if a little loud, those with 2.2 MR2's i can't imagine any unbiased person paying it any compliments. sounded like my ex-dormmate's rusty chevy chevette. with the 1.6 i would want to redline it just for the music, with the 2.2 i would short shift so that it would shut up.. the new camry 2.2 features balance shafts. i guess since the mr2 is getting the axe, it is too late for them to do anything about this.. it is no mystery that the turbo mr2 is "only" 2 liters.. the engineers had enough integrity to prevent any further abuses. also, in europe the MR2 Mk2 non-turbo was also "only" 2 liters.. as usual, the undiscriminating american market (if it is japanese it *must* be good) gets the dogs.. to be fair, we also got the turbo, which the europeans did not. eliot

7rec.autos

brad@optilink.COM (Brad Yearwood) writes: > Criminals who very badly want inscrutable tactical communications (specificall > the terrorists and drug dealers who proponents of key escrow cite as threats) > will be highly motivated to steal the cipher phone of a legitimate user, and > to kill this person or hold them hostage so discovery of compromise of the > device will be delayed. Why doing it in such a rough manner? It is much more professional to steal the chip from the phone and even to replace it with a pin-compatible do-nothing chip that does not encrypt at all. Chances are that the victim will not notice anything, especially if it is done professionally. > Once a suitable collection of devices is stolen, criminals can communicate > with impunity (assuming the cipher system carries no trapdoors apart from > key escrow) until and unless the compromise is discovered by some other means. No, because the Feds will still be able to decrypt the conversations. True, they'll blame the wrong guys, but nevertheless one cannot say something like "The drugs arrive tommorrow on the ship 'Terminus'" when the Feds are listening, even if they cannot identify who the speaker is. No, the criminals will just use some secure encryption. The new proposal does not stop criminals; it ensures that the government will be able to wiretap the average citizen and stops the casual snooper. To me, it also clearly looks as a step towards outlawing any other strong encryption devices. Regards, Vesselin -- Vesselin Vladimirov Bontchev Virus Test Center, University of Hamburg Tel.:+49-40-54715-224, Fax: +49-40-54715-226 Fachbereich Informatik - AGN < PGP 2.2 public key available on request. > Vogt-Koelln-Strasse 30, rm. 107 C e-mail: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de D-2000 Hamburg 54, Germany

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In article <1993Apr30.151033.13776@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov writes: >It's interesting to note that some of our best tools for cost control >available in industry today were derived from Government projects. >GANTT charts, CP/M, and most of the modern scheduling software comes >from DoD projects and their contractors. The construction industry Of course, How many government projects after Using PERT, GANT, C.P.M.s Process flow diagrams, Level 5 software projects.... actually come in on schedule and under Cost. I know the GAO determined that 80% of all NASA projects miss their budgets due to failing to adequately measure engineering developement costs. Me, I am allin favor of Government R&D. I thought Bell Labs was one of the best to do research. I don't think the government should pour money into any one sector, but should engage in projects which naturally push the state of the art. THings like High tech construction projects, apollo was worth it for the doing. Running hte national labs. The SSC is grossly overweight, but is a reasonable project at a lower cost. Unfortunately support for solo investigators is direly neglected. Maybe what they should do, is throw out much of the process and just tell new PH'ds, you get a 1 time grant of $50,000.00 If you produce, you can qualify for other grants. If you don't you never get in again. THis way young people get a shot at reserach, and older stale scientists don't dominate the process. pat

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In article <EfpX7WS00Uh7QAoP1S@andrew.cmu.edu> Amruth Laxman <al26+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: >... here's my question finally - Are 45g accelerations in >fact humanly tolerable? - with the aid of any mechanical devices of >course. If these are possible, what is used to absorb the acceleration? This sounds a bit high to me. Still higher accelerations have been endured *very briefly*, during violent deceleration. If we're talking sustained acceleration, I think 30-odd gees has been demonstrated using water immersion. I doubt that any of this generalizes to another order of magnitude. -- All work is one man's work. | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology - Kipling | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry

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Someone I know has recently been diagnosed as having Candida Albicans, a disease about which I can find no information. Apparently it has something to do with the body's production of yeast while at the same time being highly allergic to yeast. Can anyone out there tell me any more about it? Thanks. -- David Partain | davpa@ida.liu.se IDA, University of Link\"oping | work phone: +46 (013) 28 26 08 S-581 83 Link\"oping, Sweden | telefax: +46 (013) 28 26 66

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If you think that kind of uncalled for blanket statement will cause censorship at Mr. Jefferson's university you are wrong.

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> So following that logic could you describe "Two down" >as the transition period between "Two Up" and "coming to >rest after a High or low side" ? Otherwise it sounds pretty >good. :-) >-- >Richard Pierson E06584 vnet: [908] 699-6063 Or perhaps it's referring to the wife and child sitting in the sidecar next to the one-up on the moto? :) Anyone ever heard of a game called oneup-onedown? (it's a drinking game, for all you older folx...:) -- Andy Infante | You can listen to what everybody says, but the fact remains | '71 BMW R60/5 | that you've got to get out there and do the thing yourself. | DoD #2426 | -- Joan Sutherland | ==============| My opinions, dammit, have nothing to do with anyone else!!! |

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Yes I am aware CorelDraw exports in SCODAL. Version 2 did it quite well, apart from a few hassles with radial fills. Version 3 RevB is better but if you try to export in SCODAL with a bitmap image included in the drawing it will say something like "cannot export SCODAL with bitmap"- at least it does on my version. If anyone out there knows a way around this I am all ears. Temporal images make a product called Filmpak which converts Autocad plots to SCODAL, postscript to SCODAL and now GIF to SCODAL but it costs $650 and I was just wondering if there was anything out there that just did the bitmap to SCODAL part a tad cheaper. Jeff Lyall Inst.Geo.&.Nuc.Sci.Ltd Lower Hutt New Zealand

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Arctic Wheels of Fairbanks Presents The 10th Anniversary Auto Show The Auto Show will be held on May 7-9, 1993 (Mother's Day Weekend) at the Fort Jonathan Wainwright Physical Fitness Center. Almost any and every vehicle is welcome. Cars, trucks, snowmobiles, motorcycles, antiques, racing, etc. are welcome!!!!! For more information call (907) 488-6937 or (907) 488-8687. You may also write Arctic Wheels, P.O.Box 60934, Fairbanks, Alaska 99706-0934. This show is to benefit Alaska Crippled Children and Adults (ACCA). If you wish to place a vehicle in the show REGISTER EARLY!!!! SPACE IS LIMITED TO FIRST COME, FIRST GET A SPOT IN THE SHOW!!! You may also use this ID to forward information to show officials. -- ******************************************************************************** UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA - FAIRBANKS, UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA COMPUTER NETWORK James W. (Jim) Grimes, SXJWG@ORCA.ALASKA.EDU TENTH ANNIVERSARY AUTO SHOW, MAY 7-9, 1993, PRESENTED BY ARCTIC WHEELS TO BENEFIT ALASKA CRIPPLED CHILDREN AND ADULTS Call (907) 488-6937 or write AUTO SHOW, PO Box 60934, Fairbanks, AK 99706-0934 ********************************************************************************

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johnston@cyberia.win.net (Robert Johnston) once wrote: > >> >>papresco@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Prescod) said: >> >>> Sorry. Reading this newsgroup I can't help but get the >>> impression of frothing at the mouth lunatics. I get a lot of: [ ... ] >>> c) Constitution worshiping "It's right because it's in the >>> constitution" As if the constitution wasn't framed by men, >>> centuries ago in a totally different world. > > I three time swore and oath to defend the Constitution against > all enemies forieng and domestic with my life. Yes I quess it > is sacred to me. Not to mention that it is the law, very good law for the most part, in the United States. Therefore, a goodly number of us are intimately interested in seeing it actually enforced, not ignored or bent to the whim of the government. Larry -- Larry Weeks | "The American Republic will endure, until dev@ecn.purdue.edu | politicians realize they can bribe the people -------------------+ with their own money." -- Alexis de Tocqueville "The truly ignorant +------------------------------------------------- in our society are those people who would throw away the parts of the Constitution they find inconvenient."

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In article <1r0mtoINNa59@cronkite.Central.Sun.COM> dbernard@clesun.Central.Sun.COM writes: >Gordon Storga writes: > >>Gentleman, are we also forgetting the near genocide of the Native American >>for the barbaric act of being "heathen" (i.e. a non-Christian) by a >>predominantly Christian government. That's a little over 200 years as I >>recall. I'd say that for the most part it was religious persecution >>(their religion dictated their lifestyle). > >This is a stretch. In fact, a great many of the persecuted Indians were >Christian, a great many. It would be simpler to state the obvious, that >white people wanted land the Indians dominated or threatened. I really >don't think the government cared a hill of beans about the Indians' religion. My Native American Girlfriend asks: "If the government really doesn't 'care a hill of beans' about our religion, how come they're still busting us for it in Oregon, Washington, and a few other places? You'd be a Christian, too, if the U.S. Army marched you into church at gunpoint." -- = = = = = = = = = = Michael McClary mcclary@netcom.com For faster response, address electronic mail to: michael@node.com

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Invitation to the 8th SCIA The 8th Scandinavian Conference on Image Analysis will be arranged by the Norwegian Society for Image Processing and Pattern Recognition (NOBIM) and sponsored by the International Association for Pattern Recognition (IAPR). The conference will be held in Tromsoe from 25th-28th May 1993. Tromsoe, located at latitude 69 degrees N, is Northern Norway's centre for administration and education. About the Programme The scientific programme runs over four days and includes 6 invited speakers, 29 sessions in three parallel tracks with 127 contributed papers and 4 poster sessions with 44 contributions. The conference covers the following topics: - Image Processing and Analysis - Pattern Recognition - Computer Vision - Parallel Algorithms and Architectures - Neural Nets - Matching Methods - Image Compression - Remote Sensing - Medical and Biological Applications - Industrial Applications Conference Language The official language of the conference is English. Invited Talks and Speakers Segmentation of Range Images Via Data Fusion and Morphological Watersheds. Professor Ralph Gonzalez University of Tennessee, Knoxville Object Recognition Using Range Images. Professor Anil K. Jain Michigan State University Experiments in Mobile Robot Navigation and Range Imaging. Dr. Judd Jones Oak Ridge National Laboratory Image Compression. Professor Tor Ramstad University of Trondheim Combining Evidence in Dictionary Based Probabilistic Relaxation. Professor J. Kittler University of Surrey Matching Methods. Professor A. Sanfeliu Polytechnic University of Catalonia Workshop In connection with the conference, a workshop on contextual methods in pattern recognition will be arranged on monday 24th by IAPR TC1. For further information concerning the workshop contact Torfinn Taxt, Chairman TC1, Univ. of Bergen, N-5000 Bergen, Norway. Phone: +47 5 20 63 34 Fax: +47 5 20 63 60 E-mail: Torfinn.Taxt@cc.uib.no Registration Information The registration fee is 4000 NOK. The fee covers proceedings, entrance to all oral and poster sessions, exhibition, lunches and coffee breaks, get-together party, reception and banquet. Fees for accompanying persons are presented in the registration form. All payments must be made payable in Norwegian Kroner (NOK) by SWIFT to "XIANNOKKTRM" or Bank Giro Service at Bank Account: 6420 05 13353, "SAS Conference FORUT", Christiania Bank og Kreditkasse (Private cheques will not be accepted.) or by the following credit cards: VISA, Mastercard, Eurocard, Diners, Access, American Express. Please note: For payment with SWIFT and Bank Giro Service made from abroad, please add banking fee of NOK 60,-. Please remember to state 8SCIA and your name on all money transfers! Registration and Information The Conference Secretariat will be available all four days of the conference for registration and information May 24th, 1600:2000, in the SAS Hotel. May 25th-28th, at the University. Exhibition An exhibition of relevant literature will be arranged. Publishers are invited to exhibit their products. A visit to local companies and institutions involved in the field (mostly remote sensing) will be arranged. Accommodation Reservation for hotel accommodation can be made on the registration form. The 8SCIA Conference Secretariat at SAS Luftreisebyraa, att. Bodil Lauritsen, will provide hotel accommodation for the participants. Social Events Monday, May 24th: Get-together party. (included in the conference fee for delegates, NOK 150,- for accompanying persons) Tuesday, May 25th Fishing trip. The tour will last for 5-6 hours and hopefully the midnight sun will visit us. On board the boat there will be music, food and drink by choice. We bring fishing rods and it will be possible to have our own fish prepared on board. (NOK 400,-) Spouse programme: Visit by cable car to Storsteinen 420 meters above sea level, visit to the Arctic Cathedral, and visit to Tromsoe Museum. (NOK 205,-) Wednesday, May 26th Due to the cancellation of the Svalbard flight we will arrange a visit to the "Beerhall". (NOK 350,- including beer and food.) Spouse programme: Visit to a fishfarm in the surroundings of Tromsoe. (NOK 170,-) Thursday, May 27th Banquet. (Included in the conference fee for delegates, accompanying persons NOK 500,- ) Spouse programme: Visit to the Northern Lights Planetarium and the Polar Museum. (NOK 180,-) The spouse programs need a minimum of 15 participants to be arranged. Post conference tours with visit to Lyngen or Finnmark and Norh Cape will also be arranged. For more information about the social program and the post conference tours see the registration form and information included with the registration form. Weather and Dress The weather in Tromsoe in late May can be everything from 24 hour sunshine with a maximum temperature of 20 degrees Celsius to snowstorms with temperatures below freezing. It is therefore recommended to bring some warmer clothes. Local Information The population is approximately 50 000. In Tromsoe you can take part in many activities from mountaineering in the midnight sun to late night fun in international restaurants and bars. An afternoon local beer in the Beerhall of the world's northernmost brewery is also recommended. The 8th Scandinavian Conference on Image Analysis (8SCIA) will be held at the university campus at the world's northernmost university. There will be conference buses going to the campus from within walking distances of all the hotels. More detailed information about the locations and transport will be available at the conference hotels. Travel Information Tromsoe Airport at Langnes is only 7-8 minutes drive from the centre of Tromsoe. The travelling distance from Oslo is 1 hr 40 minutes. SAS Conference Support Tromsoe offers airticket services for the conference. In addition to all standard terms full and reduced fare tickets from Europe and overseas, (reduced fares require that you stay in Scandinavia the night between Saturday and Sunday), we can offer additional conference fares for SAS flights from SAS destinations within Scandinavia, and reduced fares on Norwegian domestic flights. If you want to make use of this service please contact Bodil Lauritsen at the Conference Secretariat. Conference Secretariat SAS Luftreisebyraa Tromsoe Att.: Bodil Lauritsen P. O Box 437 N-9001 Tromsoe Norway Phone: +47 83 10 700 Fax: +47 83 10 701 Note that reduced airticket fares can not be obtained on flights to Scandinavia if you don't stay the night between Saturday and Sunday (in front of or after the conference). On the other hand you don't have to stay that night in Tromso to obtain reduced fares within Scandinavia (SAS flights). <------------------------------- cut here ------------------------------> REGISTRATION FORM The 8'th Scandinavian Conference on Image Analysis Tromso, Norway, May 25th-28th 1993 Please use block letters or type, and fill in one form for each parti- cipant. Completed registration form for accompanying person is to be attached to the registration form of the delegate. Mr <> Mrs <> First name and surname:............................................. Company/Institution:................................................ Title:.................. Mailing address:................................................... Postal code/Country:............................................... Telephone:....................Telefax:............................. 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(Private cheques will not be accepted.) or by credit card: VISA <> Mastercard <> Eurocard <> Diners <> Access <> American Express <> Account Number:___________________________ Expiration Date:________________ Signature:____________________________________________ Please note: For payment with SWIFT and Bank Giro Service made from abroad, please add banking fee of NOK 60,-. Please remember to state 8SCIA and your name on all money transfers! ACCOMODATION: (Payment to be made upon arrival) (Weekend= Friday-Sunday). Deadline for cancellation of the hotel room: 24 hours before arrival. 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In addition to all standard terms full and reduced fare tickets from Europe and overseas, (reduced fares require that you stay in Scandinavia the night between Saturday and Sunday), we can offer additional conference fares for SAS flights from SAS destinations within Scandinavia, and reduced fares on norwegian domestic flights. If you want to make use of this service please fill in the following: Point of departure and return:______________________________________________ Date of departure:___________________ Date of return: _____________________ I will arrange airtickets on my own: <> (Please tick!) For further information, please contact: Kjell Arild Hogda, 8SCIA Local Chair, FORUT Information technology Ltd, N-9005 Tromso, Norway. Telephone: +47 83 58622. Telefax: +47 83 82420 e-mail: scia@conan.uit.no Please forward this registration form to: SAS Luftreisebyra Tromso, Att: Bodil Lauritsen P.O. Box 437, N-9001 Tromso, Norway, Telephone: +47 83 10700. 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1comp.graphics

Mr. Clinton said today that the horrible tragedy of the Waco fiasco should remind those who join cults of the dangers of doing so. Now, I began scratching my head thinking (a bad sign :-), "don't the mainstream religions (in this case Christianity...or the 7th day adventist in particular) just keep these guys going ? Isn't Mr. Clinton condemning his own religion ? After all, isn't it a cult too ?" ... bad thoughts these.

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Hello, I am looking for a Xterm emulator which runs under windows 3.1. Please reply via E-mail. Thanks. Chera Bekker -- H.G. Bekker E-mail: bekker@tn.utwente.nl Faculty of Applied Physics Voice: +3153893107 University of Twente Fax: +3153354003 The Netherlands

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Michael Sells <m_sells@haverford.edu> writes: > > This is not a fresh case of >>ethnic cleansing but just another chapter in the continuing saga >>of intense mutual hatred, destruction,... > >Every place on earth is the scene of a saga of mutual hatred and >destruction. The holocaust was not a "fresh case." It was another >chapter in a 900 year history of attacks on Jews in Europe. That didn't >make it acceptable. and Balkan history does not make the genocide against >Bosnian Muslims acceptable. I guess that it was not acceptable because Germany *also* chose a path of aggression simultaneously that put the interests of other countries in peril. I wonder whether US or other countries would have risked themselves if only Jews were persecuted and Hitler had no imperialist ambitions. (I am no student of history and I am just asking questions.) If even for a moment you think that I am condoing ethnically motivated violence and killings, you are dead wrong. Let me assure I am not. My only question is this: Do powerful countries have a moral obligation to interefere in other countries if their own interests are not threatened. I cite an essay by Charles Krauthammer in the Time (this week) that discusses this issue eloquently. For example, did US and other European countries abandon their moral compunctions when they chose not to send military troops to Bombay when Hindus, in a rare fit of impassioned rage, killed many Muslims recently. I think not! Under what conditions should US interfere in foregin countries, is an abstraction one must clarify before resorting to acrimonious accusations of religious bigotry and such. Satya Prabhakar --

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Hi, I have the following problem: I have to use a computer for special purposes that doesn't have a monitor and keyboard connected. No monitor isn't a program - but no keyboard. I can't disable the keyboard from BIOS setup (in fact, there is no setup). I spoke to someone who said that he had fooled the BIOS with simply using a self-made connector that connects two pins via a resistor. Pity, pity... I lost contact to the person before getting more detail. So does anyone of you experts can help? Thanks for any hints, even vague ones :-) Thomas -- Thomas S. Opheys Mutter Beimer, Erich, Robert Engel, Tanja opheys@kirk.fmi.uni-passau.de Schildknecht, Klausi, Onkel Franz, Rehlein, Franz-Stockbauer-Weg 1/88 Pichelsteiner, Walze, Else Kling, Iffi, W-8390 Passau, Germany -- ich liiiiiiebe Euch! Echt!

3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware

[reply to zazen@austin.ibm.com (E. H. Welbon)] >>> There is no means that i can possibly think of to prove beyond doubt >>>that a god does not exist (but if anyone has one, by all means, tell me >>>what it is). Therefore, lacking this ability of absolute proof, being an >>>atheist becomes an act of faith in and of itself, and this I cannot accept. >>> I accept nothing on blind faith. >>Invisible Pink Flying Unicorns! Need I say more? >...I harbor no beliefs at all, there is no good evidence for god >existing or not. Some folks call this agnosticism. It does not suffer >from "blind faith" at all. I think of it as "Don't worry, be happy". For many atheists, the lack of belief in gods is secondary to an epistemological consideration: what do we accept as a reliable way of knowing? There are no known valid logical arguments for the existence of gods, nor is there any empirical evidence that they exist. Most philosophers and theologians agree that the idea of a god is one that must be accepted on faith. Faith is belief without a sound logical basis or empirical evidence. It is a reliable way of knowing? There is probably nothing else most people would accept in the absence of any possibility of proof. Even when we agree to take someone elses word "on faith", we just mean that having found this person to be reliable in the past, we judge him likely to be a reliable source now. If we find faith less reliable than logic and empirical evidence everywhere else, why assume it will provide reliable knowledge about gods? The difference between the atheist and the theist is fundamentally then one of whether or not faith is held to be a reliable way of knowing, rather than, as some agnostic posters would have it, whether ones faith is in gods or no gods. The theist believes that faith is an acceptable basis for a belief in gods, even if he rejects faith as reliable at other times, for example in his work as a scientist. The atheist believes that only logic and empirical evidence lead to reliable knowledge. Agnosticism seems to me a less defensible position than theism or atheism, unless one is a sceptic in regards to all other knowledge. Without evidence, why should we believe in gods rather than Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny? I would also like to point out as others have that the atheist doesn't require absolute knowledge of the lack of gods. I don't believe that there is any such thing as absolute knowledge. Atheism is the best and simplest theory to fit the (lack of) facts and so should be held until contrary evidence is found. David Nye (nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu). Midelfort Clinic, Eau Claire WI This is patently absurd; but whoever wishes to become a philosopher must learn not to be frightened by absurdities. -- Bertrand Russell

0alt.atheism

You are right in supposing that the problem is with the XmNcolormap (XtNcolormap for truly literate beings) not being set. What you want to do is start your application with your new colormap. This can be a chicken and egg sort of problem, however. If you look at the Xt FAQ there is an example that should show how it can be done. If not, let me know and maybe I can improve the example. --pete -- Pete Ware ware@cis.ohio-state.edu CIS Dept, Ohio State University w/ (614) 292-7318 228 Bolz Hall, 2036 Neil Ave. h/ (614) 538-0965 Columbus, OH 43210

5comp.windows.x

In article <1r9mflINNak4@crcnis1.unl.edu>, e_p@unl.edu (edgar pearlstein) wrote: > An example is the FBI report that several of the bodies found > in the rubble had bullet wounds. The local coroner, who is > independent of the FBI, has so far found no bullet wounds! According to CNN last night (Saturday 4/24/93) he has now found bullets in two of the corpses, in the head (that would indicate that the bullets were aimed at killing the humans). Cheers, Kent --- sandvik@newton.apple.com. ALink: KSAND -- Private activities on the net.

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In article <C6rsJF.EM0@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, roholdr@ccu.umanitoba.ca (R Ross Holder Jr) writes: |> |> Ever since I started to use Xwindows (which is to say recently) I've |> accumulated a few questions about X-applications. Three examples follow: |> |> 1) It was recently mentioned on comp.os.linux that there exists a post- |> script viewer. I am interested in this and any X-editor that is an |> improvement on Xedit (which I find annoying). Try to get axe - It's a wonderful X based editor and much simpler to use than emacs what is a overkill. Of course, emacs is no editor but a religion. |> 2) At one point I was the proud owner of an Amiga (and have since upgraded |> to a '386-33). Workbench (the point-and click interface) used ".info" |> files to store the data for icons associated with applications on a given |> volume. I have noticed no such architecture anywhere under linux; how |> does Xwindows associate icons with applications? Can one edit icons or |> generate new ones for applications somehow? (If it makes a difference |> I'm running 'twm'.) 1) Don't call going from an Amiga to a IBM 'upgrade' 2) The Amiga Workbench did the job of a Desktop manager, and there is no really amazing good X Desktop manager in the Public Domain. (I'm currently writing one... but it's in very early stage) 3) xdtm may be a medium good replacement. 4) X associates icons with nothing. A number of X Window Managers associate icons with windows, in a way to ease window management. But this has nothing to do with icons of a Desktop Manager application. 5) The tool bitmap is there for simple icon drawing. |> 3) I've noticed some people have somehow discovered a way to display .GIF |> (or some kind of picture files) in the background, either replacing or |> overlapping some the usual grey background employed by Xwindows. I heard |> this was done using some application, but I don't recall what it was. xv -root -max -quit whatever-image-file -- +-o-+--------------------------------------------------------------+-o-+ | o | \\\- Brain Inside -/// | o | | o | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | o | | o | Andre' Beck (ABPSoft) mehl: Andre.Beck@IRS.Inf.TU-Dresden.de | o | +-o-+--------------------------------------------------------------+-o-+

5comp.windows.x

[By default, followups to 3 newsgroups.] A short excerpt: > BROOKFIELD, Wis. (UPI) -- A mother has filed a complaint with the >Elmbrook School Board alleging her son's elementary school and its >Parent-Teacher Organization show discrimination by supporting the Boy >Scouts. > Gisele Klemp said Wednesday the PTO's sponsorship of a Boy Scout >troop and Cub Scout pack that meet at Hillside Elementary School in >surbarban Milwaukee is discrimination because the Boy Scouts ban >homosexuals. [...] > PTO President Gail Pludeman disputed the charges of discrimination >and said she believes the Boy Scouts are beneficial. -- Carl Kadie -- I do not represent any organization; this is just me. = kadie@cs.uiuc.edu =

0alt.atheism

I am fortunate enough to have tickets for an Orioles-Red Sox game in Baltimore on Saturday, July 31st. I haven't been to the new park, and I was wondering if anyone out there can give me pointers or good tips or anything helpful about the place so that I can enjoy every moment spent there. For instance, what time do the gates open? Do we see the Orioles take BP? When will the Red Sox take BP? Anything you can tell me would be appreciated. Thank you in advance. Please respond to my e-mail address. I know it's still three-and-a-half months away, but I'm psyched! Sue

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I don't actually have the answer to this one. Bosio, after walking the first two batters, retired 27-straight for a "back-end" perfect game. How many other games - including extra inning games - have seen a pitcher retire 27 straight, excluding official perfect games? The only other instance of this I know about for sure is the famous Ernie Shore game, which counts as a perfect one according to those goons in Cooperstown. Shore came into the game when Boston Pitcher Babe Ruth got thrown out for arguing over the first-batter walk; Shore picked him off and retired 26 straight after that. Matt Wall * wall@cc.swarthmore.edu * Hey, I gotta job here, OK? --------------------------------------------------------------- April 6, 1993: Boston Red Sox seize first place.

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>>How can the government tell which encryption method one is using without >>being able to decode the traffic? i.e., In order to accuse me of using an >>unauthorized strong encryption technique they would have to take both >>keys out of escrow, run them against my ciphertext and "draw a blank". > > I was thinking about this, also. It's quite possible the >system transmits, in clear, the serial number of the device being >used. That way they can start a tap, get the serial number, and use >the warrant for the first tap to get the key. > > If they tap someone who's apparently using encryption, but >don't find that prefix, then they'll assume it's an "un-authorized" >encryption scheme. This doesn't handle superencrypted traffic. If the clipper doesn't impose any unfortunate performance side-effects there's no reason not to use it to superencrypt a stream of triple-DES encrypted traffic. That way your traffic looks "normal" and perhaps anyone desiring to listen in won't even bother, since they know nobody's going to really trust crypto that has classified internals for important stuff. mjr.

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I posted this a couple of weeks ago, and it doesn't seem to have appeared on the newsgroup, and I haven't had a reply from the moderator. We were having intermittent problems with our mail at the time. Please excuse me if you have seen this before... Should Christians fight? Last week Alastair posted some questions about fighting, and whether there are such things as "justifiable wars". I have started looking into these things and have jotted down my findings as I go. I haven't answered all his questions yet, and I know what I have here is on a slightly different tack, but possibly I'll be able to get into it more deeply later, and post some more info soon. Our duty to our neighbour: Do good to all men (Gal 6:10) Love our neighbour as ourselves (Matt 22:39) Act the part of the good Samaritan (Luke 10) toward any who may be in trouble. We will therefore render every possible assistance to an injured man, and therefore should not be part of any organisation which causes people harm (even medical corps of the army etc). Christians are by faith "citizens of the commonwealth of Israel" (Ephesians 2:11-12), and also recognise that "God rules in the kingdoms of men", and therefore we should not be taking part in any of the struggles of those nations which we are not part of due to our faith. We are to be "strangers and pilgrims" amongst the nations, so we are just passing through, and not part of any nation or any national aspirations (this can also be applied to politics etc, but that's another story). We are not supposed to "strive" or "resist evil" (even "suffer yourselves to be defrauded") it is therefore incosistent for us to strive to assist in preserving a state which Christ will destroy when he returns to set up God's kingdom. Our duty to the state. "Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar's and unto God the things which be God's" (Luke 20:25). "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God; the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God" (Rom 13:1-2). "Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake; whether it be to king as supreme... for so is the will of God that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men" (1 Pet 2:13-15) These scriptures make it clear that submission to the powers that be is a divine command, but it is equally clear from Acts 5:19-29 that when any ordinance of man runs counter to God's law, we must refuse submission to it. The reason for this is that we are God's "bond servants" and His service is our life's task. An example of the type of thing is in Col 3:22-23 where bondservants were to "work heartily as unto the Lord" - so also we should work as if our boss was God - i.e. "Pressed down, shaken together, and running over"... oops - a bit of a side track there... In the contests between the nations, we are on God's side - a side that is not fighting in the battle, but is "testifying" to the truth. When we believe in God and embrace His promises, we become "fellow citizens with the Saints and of the Household of God", and are no longer interested in associations of the world. Think of this in relation to unions etc as well. Paul tells us to "lay aside every weight" that we may run "the race that is set before us", and if we are wise, we will discard any association which would retard our progress - "Thou therefore endure hardness as a good soldier of Jesus Christ. No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life, that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier" (2 Tim 2:3-4). One of these entanglements he warns about is "be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers". One of the obvious applications of this is marriage with unbelievers, but it also covers things like business partnerships and any other position where we may form a close association with any person or persons not believing the truth about God (in this case the army). The principle comes from Deut 22:10 - remember that as well as them being different animals of different strengths, one was clean and one unclean under the law. These ideas are strongly stressed in 2 Cor 6:13-18 - I suggest you read this. The yoking also has another aspect - that of servitude, and Jesus says "take my yoke upon you", so we are then yoked with Christ and cannot be yoked with unbelievers. We have already seen that we are bondservants of Christ, and Paul says "become not ye the bondservants of men (1 Cor 7:23 RV). An example from the Old Testament: the question is asked in 2 Chr 19:2 "Shouldest thou help the ungodly...?". The situation here is a good example of what happens when you are yoked together with unbelievers. Jehoshaphat was lucky to escape with his life. Here are the facts: 1. He had made an affinity with Ahab, who had "sold himself to work wickedness before the Lord" (1 Kings 21:25). 2. When asked by Ahab to form a military alliance, he had agreed and said "I am as thou art, my people as thy people" (1 Kings 22:4) - an unequal yoking. 3. He sttod firm in refusing the advice of the false prophets and insisted on hearing the prophet of the Lord (trying to do the right thing), he found that he was yoked and therefore couldn't break away from the evil association he had made. God says to us "Come out from among them and be ye separate, and touch not the unclean thing, and I will receive you and ye shall be my sons and daughters" (2 Cor 6:17). This is more or less what I have found out so far - I'm still looking into it, as I don't think I've answered all the questions raised by Alastair yet. Heres a summary and a few things to think about: The Christian in under command. Obedience to this command is an essential factor in his relationship with Christ (John 15:10,14). Total dedication to this course of action is required (Romans 12:1-2). Disobedience compromises the close relationship between Christ and his followers (1 Pet 2:7-8). We are to be separated to God (Rom 6:4). This involves a master-servant relationship (Rom 6:12,16). No man can serve two masters (Matt 6:24,13,14). All that is in the 'Kosmos' is lust and pride - quite opposed to Gos (1 John 2:16). Christs kingdom is not of this world (i.e. not worldly in nature) - if it was, his servants would fight to deliver him. If Christ is our master and he was not delivered by his servants because his kingdom was not of this world, then his servants cannot possibly fight for another master. Strangers and pilgrims have no rights, and we cannot swear allegiance to anyone but God. The servant of the Lord must not war but be gentle to all (2 Tim 2:24) - this does not just apply to war, but also to avoiding strife throughout our lives. There is a war to be waged, not with man's weapons (2 Cor 10:3-4), but with God's armour (Eph6:13-20). I'll probably post some more when I've had time to look into things a bit further. -- Gideon King | Phone +64-3-479 8347 University of Otago | Fax +64-3-479 8529 Department of Computer Science | e-mail gideon@farli.otago.ac.nz P.O. Box 56 | Dunedin | NeXT mail preferred! New Zealand |

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> Now here this: Anyone voting for John Blue for best goalie mask poll will be > shot on site, no questions asked ;-) > But c'mon.. it's a black mask, with yellow paint along the opening.. how > totally plain vanilla! eeuu.. Heh, someone mentioned Tommy Soderstrom (Flyers) for the besk mask poll too (in the mentioned below part). All he has is a plain white helmet with a big cage. I found this pretty amusing. -John Santore Philadelphia Flyers in '93-'94! ============================================================================= ____________________ / \ "We break the surface tension \_________ ____ \ with our wild kinetic dreams" / / \ \ -Rush, Grand Designs \_______ / (*) ) ) / / /\___/ / Go Philadelphia Flyers! \_____ / / / / / \_______/ John Santore (jsbh@andrew.cmu.edu) \________/ Rush-Yes-King Crimson-Emerson, Lake and Palmer-Marillion-Genesis (w/ Gabriel) =============================================================================

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Anas Omran writes in his earlier posting: [ANAS] A high rank Israeli officer was killed during a clash whith a Hamas [ANAS] Mujahid. The terrorist Israelis chased and killed a young Mujahid [ANAS] using anti-tank missiles. The terrorist zionists cut the Mujahid's [ANAS] body into small pieces to the extend that his body was not recognized. [ANAS] At leat ten houses were destroyed by these atni-tank missiles. If indeed Israeli soldiers killed a "Hamas Mujahid" with an anti-tank missile then I'm almost sure that the "terrorist zionists" would not have been able to cut up a body which was probably desintegrated by the missile. Stop polluting the net with you fantasies. Tsiel -- ----8<--------------------------------------------------------------->8------ Tsiel:ohayon@jcpl.co.jp | If you do not receive this E-mail, please let me Employer may not have same | know as soon as possible, if possible. opinions, if any ! | Two percent of zero is almost nothing.

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Unable to stand the pain anymore, my wife bought the Corbin Gunfighter and Lady with Passenger Backrest for my Hawk GT. It came with no instructions, but it came 2 weeks earlier than they said it would. Installation would have been very easy, but the seat fastening hardware was apparently always on the wrong sides with the stock seat! It never was easy to put on. Once I figured that out, the new seat went on the first try. The passenger backrest, though, does not fit as I thought it might. The supplied screw to set the backrest angle does not fit, and I have not yet found a suitable, hard, ( SAE grade 8, or perhaps 5 ) 1/4-20 bolt that fits. There is a a soft bolt in there now -- just don't lean back. The driver's section of the seat is a bit wider. Seems comfortable enough, but then again I put about 5000 miles on the stock seat without a thought. The passenger's section has about 8 times the volume of foam that the stock seat has, and from my short test it seems much more comfortable. The backrest helps a bit, but I've not has enough time to really test it. The backrest also comes with a small pocket. Its now more difficult to swing my leg up over the 10" taller seat. If I go on the three-notch ride soon ( Dixville, Pinkham & Smugglers), I'll give a more complete report, but in general it seems like an improvement. -- Frank Evan Perdicaro Xyvision Color Systems Legalize guns, drugs and cash...today. 101 Edgewater Drive inhouse: frank@marvin, x5572 Wakefield MA outhouse: frank@contex.com, 617-245-4100x5572 018801285

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-- PAOLO,MARC ANTHONY Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,ut-ngp}!gatech!prism!gt4661a Internet: gt4661a@prism.gatech.edu

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>gibbonsa@fraser.sfu.ca (Darren Gibbons) writes: > >I'm looking for information on Opel cars. Now you ask, which model? >Well, the sad truth is, I'm not entirely sure, but it's a two-seater, >with roll-over headlights, hard top, and really sporty looking. My >friend has one sitting in his yard in really nice condition, >body-wise, but he transmission has seized up on him, so it hasn't run >for a while. Does anyone have any info on these cars? The engine >compartment looks really tight to work on, but it is in fine shape and >I am quite interested in it. That would be the Opel GT, sold in this country from '69 to '73. It originally had a 1100 cc engine, which was later replaced by the 1900 cc. It was based on the old Kadett drive train and suspension, with leaf springs in the rear and a single transverse leaf spring in the front. It looked good, but was limited as a performer. There has also been some discussion in this thread about the Manta and other models. In 1971 Opel introduced a new line of models, the 1900 series, that were also known as model numbers 51, 57, etc. These cars had the newer 1900cc engine and were available as two and four-door coupes, a station wagon, and a "sport coupe", known in Europe as the Manta. At the same time, there were two 30-series cars, which sold very few numbers, that also had the 1900 engine but the Kadett suspension. The sport coupe, (model 57) was also available as the Rallye, (57R), with a blacked out hood, tach, and fog lights, but was mechanically the same except for a numerically higher rear end ratio. In 1973 the sport coupe was also named the Manta in the US. 1973 was the last year for the GT in any country, both because of the US bumper height regulations and the fact that FIAT exercised an option on the factory that Opel was leasing to build the GTs. The 1900 series continued in 1974 with minor body differences. In 1975, the Manta, 1900 sedan (also called the Ascona) and the wagon were available with Bosch electronic fuel injection. These cars also had larger brakes and wider wheels. These cars were starting to compete with the 1975 Buick Century low price leader of the time, and were the last Opels imported into the US. From 1976 to 1979, cars that sported Buick/Opel badges were still sold by the Buick dealers, but were rebadged Isuzu I-marks. The idea was to call them Opels instead of changing the dealers' neon signs. Various models of the 50-series cars dominated the Showroom Stock racing of the 70's in their class, and were known as serious 2002-competition. Parts are still available from a number of sources. (I still have a '73 manta and two '75 sedans and all the trick parts I could collect in 20 years). -- John Kennedy uunet!opel!johnk Second Source, Inc. johnk@secondsource.COM Annapolis, MD

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-=> Quoting The Logistician to All <=- TL> I am in need of all of the players wearing #77 in the NHL. I know now TL> only of one, Ray Borque for the Bruins. Any help would be greatly TL> appreciated. TL> Thanx. Hi there Logistician, is not Paul Coffey wearing # 77 for the Detroit Red Wings? That is the only other one (besides Borque) that I can think of hope it helps. Steve ... WARNING! Removal of this tagline prohibited by law! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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Some time ago (about 1 month) there was a bit of discussion about a universal VESA driver for > 8bit cards. It was in the file uvesa32.zip. Well i can't find it, does anyone know where it is (gorilla.something.something.au), and what sort of cards it works for ? Also would it be pushing my luck to ask for someone to post it to some appropriate group. Kingsley Turner NSW Australia

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livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes: >>>How long does it [the motto] have to stay around before it becomes the >>>default? ... Where's the cutoff point? >>I don't know where the exact cutoff is, but it is at least after a few >>years, and surely after 40 years. >Why does the notion of default not take into account changes >in population makeup? Specifically, which changes are you talking about? Are you arguing that the motto is interpreted as offensive by a larger portion of the population now than 40 years ago? keith

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In article <1993Apr20.194441.23595@julian.uwo.ca> lee139@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Steve Lee) writes: > >In article <C5spEC.EuC@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> stamber@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Kevin L. Stamber) writes: > >>Kevin L. Stamber >>Purdue University >>...and Phil Kirzyc (The Kielbasa Kid) will roam the Arena for interviews. > > >Woops! This is rec.sport.hockey! Not rec.sport.golf! Hope you check the >newsgroup header next time before posting! > >Steve If the Leaf's play like they did in game one they're going to need these! Watching that game _really_ hurt! Cheers! i. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | ingo@sunee.uwaterloo.ca | The more violent the body | | iwweigel@descartes.uwaterloo.ca | contact of the sports you | | ingo@electrical.watstar.uwaterloo.ca | watch, the lower your class. | | iwweigele@electrical.watstar.uwaterloo.ca | -- Paul Fussell | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ If the University of Waterloo had on opinion, this probably wouldn't be it...

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I found this little gem, I don't know if anyone has any interest/comments... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi everyone, I'm a commited Christian that is battling with a problem. I know that romans talks about how we are saved by our faith not our deeds, yet hebrews and james say that faith without deeds is useless, saying' You fools, do you still think that just believing is enough?' Now if someone is fully believing but there life is totally lead by themselves and not by God, according to Romans that person is still saved by there faith. But then there is the bit which says that God preferes someone who is cold to him (i.e. doesn't know him - condemned) so a lukewarm Christian someone who knows and believes in God but doesn't make any attempt to live by the bible. Now I am of the opinion that you a saved through faith alone (not what you do) as taught in Romans, but how can I square up in my mind the teachings of James in conjunction with the lukewarm Christian being 'spat-out' Can anyone help me, this really bothers me.-- in Christ, Will -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --Adam ================================================================================ | Adam John Cooper | "Verily, often have I laughed at the weaklings | | (612) 696-7521 | who thought themselves good simply because | | acooper@macalstr.edu | they had no claws." | ================================================================================ | "Understand one another? I fear I am beyond your comprehension." --Gandalf | ================================================================================

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In article <lsk1v9INN93c@caspian.usc.edu> zyeh@caspian.usc.edu (zhenghao yeh) writes: > >Does anybody know what Delaunay Triangulation is? >Is there any reference to it? >Is it useful for creating 3-D objects? If yes, what's the advantage? There is a vast literature on Delaunay triangulations, literally hundreds of papers. A program is even provided with every copy of Mathematica nowadays. You might look at this if you are interested in using it for creating 3D objects: @article{Boissonnat5, author = "J.D. Boissonnat", title = "Geometric Structures for Three-Dimensional Shape Representation", journal = "ACM Transactions on Graphics", month = "October", year = {1984}, volume = {3}, number = {4}, pages = {266-286} }

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In article <Apr.17.01.11.19.1993.2268@geneva.rutgers.edu> mprc@troi.cc.rochester.edu (M. Price) writes: > > I'm concerned about a recent posting about WBT/SIL. I thought they'd >pretty much been denounced as a right-wing organization involved in >ideological manipulation and cultural interference, including Vietnam >and South America. A commission from Mexican Academia denounced them in >1979 as " a covert political and ideological institution used by the >U.S. govt as an instrument of control, regulation, penetration, espionage and >repression." I have personally know quite of few of the Wycliffe Bible Translators. As an organization their fundamental purpose is to translate the scriptures into the native languages which in terms usual means learning it and developing a written language (along with teaching the natives to read). It is not associated with the U.S. govt. at all. Many governments want the help of the translators. To the best of my knowledge the Mexican government now encourages them to come. Their idea is not cultural interference but the presentation of the Good News. To understand more about what they do, I suggest you read some of the books (autobiographical and biographical) about some of the translators. One that stands out in my mind as an excellent is called "Peace Child." This would give a true picture of what their mission is. > My concern is that this group may be seen as acceptable and even >praiseworthy by readers of soc.religion.christian. It's important that >Christians don't immediately accept every "Christian" organization as >automatically above reproach. > > mp I agree with this statement, but we cannot also accept what others say without looking into the issues. That would be the same as taking Suddan's discussion about the CIA, etc. as being true. We must look at both sides. Cathy Bareiss

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In article <1993Apr23.103038.27467@bnr.ca> agc@bmdhh286.bnr.ca (Alan Carter) writes: >|> ... a NO-OP command was sent to reset the command loss timer ... > >This activity is regularly reported in Ron's interesting posts. Could >someone explain what the Command Loss Timer is? If I'm not mistaken, this is the usual sort of precaution against loss of communications. That timer is counting down continuously; if it ever hits zero, that means Galileo hasn't heard from Earth in a suspiciously long time and it may be Galileo's fault... so it's time to go into a fallback mode that minimizes chances of spacecraft damage and maximizes chances of restoring contact. I don't know exactly what-all Galileo does in such a situation, but a common example is to switch receivers, on the theory that maybe the one you're listening with has died. -- All work is one man's work. | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology - Kipling | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry

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