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Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: I just found like other people and just like forgot about it. therapist: Okay. And so how else do you identify who your friends are that you can really trust who have your back? client: I say the ones that like not even that I've known the longest, but like the ones that actually hang out with me a lot, or like texting me a lot, or like calling. And the ones that are actually like that helped you before with like situations. And that they tell you stuff and they know they can trust you. Like one of my friends tells me everything about her. And like that's how I know she's a good friend 'cause she trusts me with things. therapist: You trust her back then? client: Yeah.
Okay. Well, that makes a lot of sense that people-- it goes both ways.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: I say the ones that like not even that I've known the longest, but like the ones that actually hang out with me a lot, or like texting me a lot, or like calling. And the ones that are actually like that helped you before with like situations. And that they tell you stuff and they know they can trust you. Like one of my friends tells me everything about her. And like that's how I know she's a good friend 'cause she trusts me with things. therapist: You trust her back then? client: Yeah. therapist: Okay. Well, that makes a lot of sense that people-- it goes both ways. client: Mm-hmm.
You know. And, um-- So and for you, friends that, um, kind of, um, give you the attention that you'd like to have. Texting you-
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Yeah. therapist: Okay. Well, that makes a lot of sense that people-- it goes both ways. client: Mm-hmm. therapist: You know. And, um-- So and for you, friends that, um, kind of, um, give you the attention that you'd like to have. Texting you- client: Yeah.
-calling and you hanging out with you, and stuff like that, rather than pretending to be a friend-
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Mm-hmm. therapist: You know. And, um-- So and for you, friends that, um, kind of, um, give you the attention that you'd like to have. Texting you- client: Yeah. therapist: -calling and you hanging out with you, and stuff like that, rather than pretending to be a friend- client: Mm-hmm.
-when you know maybe they're gonna--
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: And she just like causes a lot of drama now. And like she came- Like the friends I met at high school, she came like into them like, you're not gonna know-- In college, you're not gonna know who to follow 'cause-- since you keep following with my friends, what are you gonna do in college like not being able to find your own friends? It's kind of annoying 'cause they're my friends and like I can't be by her and she comes to my friends. It's like- therapist: Mm-hmm. client: -get your own friends, [chuckles] stop following me. therapist: Mm-hmm. Wh-what don't you like about her? client: She just lies a lot and like just starts dramas about me and I haven't even talked to her like since eight grade. We only went to school together and she just like makes me lose other friends 'cause of the drama she starts
Okay. So she sounds like she's, um--
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: -get your own friends, [chuckles] stop following me. therapist: Mm-hmm. Wh-what don't you like about her? client: She just lies a lot and like just starts dramas about me and I haven't even talked to her like since eight grade. We only went to school together and she just like makes me lose other friends 'cause of the drama she starts therapist: Okay. So she sounds like she's, um-- client: A nobody. I'm gonna say that. She's like—
Or-or not worth your time.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Ask for it. Yeah. therapist: Right, and what kind of things do you ask from them? client: I just ask them like if I'm like gonna get like sent down to the principal's office for like something happening, I call them to come down to, like, support my, like, backup information. therapist: 'Cause they can do that. They can- they can kinda give you some, uh, information like, uh, um-- they can give some accurate information, um, and back up your story versus the other person's story. client: Yeah.
So, okay. So we're-- You know what? Um, it sounds like you actually have some pretty good ideas about, um, how to handle this, and yet kids are-- I know kids-- actually, adults can be really mean too. But, um, I know in high school, i-it's really bad.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Like she doesn't know who to believe. therapist: Well, I would want this session though to be for you though, Molly. client: Yeah. therapist: I mean I'm willing to see her too, you know. client: Yeah.
It sounds like she really needs-- she'd like someone to listen to her.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Yeah. therapist: I mean I'm willing to see her too, you know. client: Yeah. therapist: It sounds like she really needs-- she'd like someone to listen to her. client: Yeah.
Yeah. So, um, we could maybe talk about some other ways of, um, helping, uh, deal with this because, um, it does sound like, um, people are, you know, just being plain old mean to you for no good darn reason.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Yeah. therapist: It sounds like she really needs-- she'd like someone to listen to her. client: Yeah. therapist: Yeah. So, um, we could maybe talk about some other ways of, um, helping, uh, deal with this because, um, it does sound like, um, people are, you know, just being plain old mean to you for no good darn reason. client: Mm-hmm.
Yeah. And, um, so you'd be willing to come back and talk about it then? Okay. All right. And I just wanna let you know that I think that you're, um, really doing a good job of-of, uh, dealing with how hard it is to be in high school, 'cause it is hard.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Mm-hmm. therapist: Yeah. And, um, so you'd be willing to come back and talk about it then? Okay. All right. And I just wanna let you know that I think that you're, um, really doing a good job of-of, uh, dealing with how hard it is to be in high school, 'cause it is hard. client: Yeah. therapist: It is. client: I've noticed that.
Yeah. And it is hard, and-and I-I think it gets better. My experience was it got a little better. The freshman and sophomore year, you know.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
therapist: -[unintelligible 00:13:12] people. So okay, anything else? No? Okay. All right. client: Mm-hmm. therapist: Thank you. therapist: Hello, nice to meet you again. And, uh, and what seems to be the-the problem or what-what prompted you to come along? client: Uh, just I'm sick of my drinking. I'm drinking too much. Um, I just thought, uh, maybe I need someone to talk to, get some help about it.
Okay, so you feel as if drinking is a problem for you at the moment?
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: And I've been, yeah, getting into this habit of going out every Friday and Saturday, now, uh, drinking a lot. therapist: Yes. client: Um, to try to meet guys. therapist: Sure. client: And, uh, in the last few months I've been, you know, just drinking even more on week nights, and I never even used to do that before.
Okay, okay, so you've noticed over, I guess, uh, the last six months in particular since you decided, you know what? I'm going to take a risk and-a-and go out to try to meet a-a-a pot-potential partner again that it's with an increase in drinking.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: And, uh, in the last few months I've been, you know, just drinking even more on week nights, and I never even used to do that before. therapist: Okay, okay, so you've noticed over, I guess, uh, the last six months in particular since you decided, you know what? I'm going to take a risk and-a-and go out to try to meet a-a-a pot-potential partner again that it's with an increase in drinking. client: Yeah. Well, I just, I don't feel comfortable talking to guys normally. [chuckles] therapist: Okay. client: I don't know what to say, um, and I just, drinking helps.
Sure, sure. So you're noticing that the drinking at the moment is a way of perhaps calming the nerves?
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Yeah. Well, I just, I don't feel comfortable talking to guys normally. [chuckles] therapist: Okay. client: I don't know what to say, um, and I just, drinking helps. therapist: Sure, sure. So you're noticing that the drinking at the moment is a way of perhaps calming the nerves? client: Yeah, for sure.
To-to-to speak to-to potential partners?
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: I mean, I guess, like most people do when they go out they drink. therapist: Okay. client: I've been doing that and just drinking more and more I guess. therapist: Sure. client: Um, and it's just-- it's not even working, I'm not really meeting people and I just end up with massive hangover for the rest of the weekend and—
That's interesting isn't it? You-- 'cause you kind of mentioned it there, like, you know, on one side of the coin, um, it helps calm the nerves to get yourself get out there and-
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: I've been doing that and just drinking more and more I guess. therapist: Sure. client: Um, and it's just-- it's not even working, I'm not really meeting people and I just end up with massive hangover for the rest of the weekend and— therapist: That's interesting isn't it? You-- 'cause you kind of mentioned it there, like, you know, on one side of the coin, um, it helps calm the nerves to get yourself get out there and- client: Yeah.
-talk to guys at the same time, on the other side it's not working you're finding. And i-i-it results in hangovers or?
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: -and I mean, I just don't-- I don't wanna do that every now and now I just think it's a bit too much. therapist: Okay. client: Yeah, I'm just I'm not eating properly anymore, I'm just eating less or just getting takeaway, getting crap food and- therapist: Okay. client: -um, I'm just, I feel like I'm not exerc-- well I'm not exercising like I used to. So, I just wanna cut, you know, stop drinking so much.
Okay, okay, so, uh, sounds like you really want to stop drinking, particularly during the weekdays?
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Yeah, I'm just I'm not eating properly anymore, I'm just eating less or just getting takeaway, getting crap food and- therapist: Okay. client: -um, I'm just, I feel like I'm not exerc-- well I'm not exercising like I used to. So, I just wanna cut, you know, stop drinking so much. therapist: Okay, okay, so, uh, sounds like you really want to stop drinking, particularly during the weekdays? client: Yeah. Yeah I do. Yeah.
Right, because you're noticing it's having a negative impact on what you're eating.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: -um, I'm just, I feel like I'm not exerc-- well I'm not exercising like I used to. So, I just wanna cut, you know, stop drinking so much. therapist: Okay, okay, so, uh, sounds like you really want to stop drinking, particularly during the weekdays? client: Yeah. Yeah I do. Yeah. therapist: Right, because you're noticing it's having a negative impact on what you're eating. client: Yeah. I don't wanna- I don't wanna, I mean, I don't wanna stop altogether, so.
No, I get it. Yeah. I mean, you know, it sounds like it's, it is helpful to a degree for you when you go out because it makes you feel a little bit more calm to talk to-to guys is that right?
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: -I'd have no social life if I didn't. therapist: Yeah. client: If I just said-said, "No, I'm not drinking at all," and, you know, I don't feel like I'm an alcoholic- therapist: Sure. client: -or I don't feel like I need to
Yeah, yeah. So, you've got, you know, some benefits there then, you know. The social element, hanging with friends and-and going out together is something which is-is quite enjoyable. So, it's not a case of removing it completely but it’s a case of, "Okay, I’m noticing this is impacting on me more than what I’d like to." Yeah. Yeah, okay.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Yeah. therapist: Um, I guess 80 is quite high, what makes you say an 80 over say 50? client: Um, I don’t know, I just-just I don’t know, it just sort-- it just got up to a point where just, um, it seemed just too much, like no-nobody else is really drinking as much in the week as well and- therapist: Okay. client: -it seemed, as just, yeah, for the reasons I was saying, just seeing like I need to do something about it now.
Okay, yes, so you’ve got this real sense of, "I've gotta do something."
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Um, I don’t know, I just-just I don’t know, it just sort-- it just got up to a point where just, um, it seemed just too much, like no-nobody else is really drinking as much in the week as well and- therapist: Okay. client: -it seemed, as just, yeah, for the reasons I was saying, just seeing like I need to do something about it now. therapist: Okay, yes, so you’ve got this real sense of, "I've gotta do something." client: Just seeing it’s just gonna get worse, uh, wha-- that’s what it seems like.
That’s what it seems like.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: -it seemed, as just, yeah, for the reasons I was saying, just seeing like I need to do something about it now. therapist: Okay, yes, so you’ve got this real sense of, "I've gotta do something." client: Just seeing it’s just gonna get worse, uh, wha-- that’s what it seems like. therapist: That’s what it seems like. client: Yeah.
So, at the moment, it's been a case of the last six months, this is a pattern that you’ve been noticing more and more, um, a sign that it has had negative impacts on your lifestyle which you’re not happy with and you are in you're in a position where, you know what? I wanna do something about it.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Yeah, yeah. Yep. therapist: Okay, how does that sound like a first step goal for you? client: No, that’s good, that’s-that's, yeah, that's- that is definitely what I’m gonna do. therapist: Okay. client: I just, you know, I'm so out of the routine, not exercising, I need to get back into things.
Okay, you sound really mad about it to-to turn it around.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
therapist: Okay, oh, that-that's excellent, okay. therapist: Thanks for coming in. Tell me what's been happening since we last spoke. client: Well, I, um, I did get an interview for a job. Um— therapist: Wow, that's so great. client: Yeah, but I wasn't able to go, um, cause my kids, I didn't have any one to watch them. And, um, you know, so the- that was sort of game over. I just, I had to cancel the interview and this, it's too bad because it was a really, a- actually was a job that would have been good, but I don't know.
You sound disappointed.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Well, I, um, I did get an interview for a job. Um— therapist: Wow, that's so great. client: Yeah, but I wasn't able to go, um, cause my kids, I didn't have any one to watch them. And, um, you know, so the- that was sort of game over. I just, I had to cancel the interview and this, it's too bad because it was a really, a- actually was a job that would have been good, but I don't know. therapist: You sound disappointed. client: Well, yeah, because it's- it's, you know, I didn't really have a choice. I guess I have to be- I have to make sure my kids are taken care of first. And, um, you know, I'm worried that this is gonna keep happening.
It's gonna keep happening that you have to turn down opportunities.
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client: Well, yeah, because it's- it's, you know, I didn't really have a choice. I guess I have to be- I have to make sure my kids are taken care of first. And, um, you know, I'm worried that this is gonna keep happening. therapist: It's gonna keep happening that you have to turn down opportunities. client: Yeah. therapist: Mm-hmm, okay. Well, tell me, um, on a scale from one to 10, how important is it for you to get a job? client: Um, it sits about at a 10 because yeah, I mean, I'm the only one supporting my kids and, um, you know, it's just, what I'm getting from welfare is just not cutting it. So I really need to have a job and soon.
Yeah. You're-you're-you're it.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Yeah. therapist: Mm-hmm, okay. Well, tell me, um, on a scale from one to 10, how important is it for you to get a job? client: Um, it sits about at a 10 because yeah, I mean, I'm the only one supporting my kids and, um, you know, it's just, what I'm getting from welfare is just not cutting it. So I really need to have a job and soon. therapist: Yeah. You're-you're-you're it. client: Yeah.
You have to provide for your children.
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client: Yeah. therapist: You have to provide for your children. client: Mm-hmm. therapist: Um, and tell me on a scale from one to 10, how confident are you that you could get a job? client: I mean, right now, I think I'm about at a three. I just seems like, you know, even if I'm able to get into the interview and get childcare, you know, when I show up, I've got this resume that it's- it's not impressive and it's got all these gaps of employment and I'm not as educated as other people going in for the same job. So I just feel like I'm not, um, I don't know, that employable.
So, it sounds like, you know, the childcare issue has been getting in the way, and so finding something that would work for you would be really helpful.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Mm-hmm. therapist: Um, and tell me on a scale from one to 10, how confident are you that you could get a job? client: I mean, right now, I think I'm about at a three. I just seems like, you know, even if I'm able to get into the interview and get childcare, you know, when I show up, I've got this resume that it's- it's not impressive and it's got all these gaps of employment and I'm not as educated as other people going in for the same job. So I just feel like I'm not, um, I don't know, that employable. therapist: So, it sounds like, you know, the childcare issue has been getting in the way, and so finding something that would work for you would be really helpful. client: Yeah.
And then also it sounds like you're kinda feeling not so great about your resume and your experience.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Yeah. therapist: And then also it sounds like you're kinda feeling not so great about your resume and your experience. client: Yeah. Yeah, because it's so limited and I've been out of the workforce and even when I was working, I mean, it's not, I don't know, it's not stuff that I feel like can lead to the job that I want now. therapist: Okay. What is it that you- what is it that you want? client: I just want something that is- is gonna be steady and where I can be, you know, even if my kids are in childcare during the day, that I can be home every night and spending time with them and, um, know you really like to get something where, um, I'm just making good money and- and I don't have to worry all the time about money.
Yeah. Yeah. So, if you had- if you had consistent work, it would change your life in a lot of ways.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Yeah. Yeah, because it's so limited and I've been out of the workforce and even when I was working, I mean, it's not, I don't know, it's not stuff that I feel like can lead to the job that I want now. therapist: Okay. What is it that you- what is it that you want? client: I just want something that is- is gonna be steady and where I can be, you know, even if my kids are in childcare during the day, that I can be home every night and spending time with them and, um, know you really like to get something where, um, I'm just making good money and- and I don't have to worry all the time about money. therapist: Yeah. Yeah. So, if you had- if you had consistent work, it would change your life in a lot of ways. client: Yeah. It would be huge.
Mm-hmm. It would provide the income that you need and you wouldn't worry so much.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: I just want something that is- is gonna be steady and where I can be, you know, even if my kids are in childcare during the day, that I can be home every night and spending time with them and, um, know you really like to get something where, um, I'm just making good money and- and I don't have to worry all the time about money. therapist: Yeah. Yeah. So, if you had- if you had consistent work, it would change your life in a lot of ways. client: Yeah. It would be huge. therapist: Mm-hmm. It would provide the income that you need and you wouldn't worry so much. client: Yeah. And it'd be nice to just know what I'm doing and just have my routine.
Right. So every day you know where you're going.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Yeah. It would be huge. therapist: Mm-hmm. It would provide the income that you need and you wouldn't worry so much. client: Yeah. And it'd be nice to just know what I'm doing and just have my routine. therapist: Right. So every day you know where you're going. client: Yeah.
Okay. And you know, what's- what's happening for the- for the day, for the week.
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client: Yeah. therapist: Okay. And you know, what's- what's happening for the- for the day, for the week. client: Right. Well, it would be good if I knew, you know, that my kids are taken care of too- therapist: Yeah. client: - so I'm not worried about them while I'm at work.
Right. Yeah. Because you're- you're the kind of parent that wants to make sure your kids are doing well.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Well, I mean, being able to make the interviews would be the priority. therapist: Okay, Yeah. client: Um, so chi- you know, taking care, having some childcare, having- therapist: Mm-hmm. client: - having someone I trust that I can call when I know I've got an interview.
Yeah. Because you definitely need to go to an interview in order to get the job.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Um, so chi- you know, taking care, having some childcare, having- therapist: Mm-hmm. client: - having someone I trust that I can call when I know I've got an interview. therapist: Yeah. Because you definitely need to go to an interview in order to get the job. client: Right. Yeah.
So having taken care of that part, having some reliable childcare would definitely help.
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client: I get asked about education and training and – therapist: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. client: - um, you know, I just, it, as soon as I asked about it, I just feel just like I'm not good enough- therapist: Okay. client: - since I don't have that.
Yeah, so if you had something on your resume that was around education training, maybe a certificate of some kind of a field that you're interested in, that you would feel proud of yourself.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: - since I don't have that. therapist: Yeah, so if you had something on your resume that was around education training, maybe a certificate of some kind of a field that you're interested in, that you would feel proud of yourself. client: Yeah. Well, something I could talk about in the interview too. You know, even if I was some type of certification where I could say, I could, you know, with confidence talk about- about that. therapist: Mm-hmm. Okay. What-- do you have any ideas as to what fields you might be interested in getting some more education, more training? client: I mean, I guess, I just don't really know what it's gonna be because I need to have a job now so I'm not really sure.
Like what's going to be fastest.
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client: Yeah. Well, something I could talk about in the interview too. You know, even if I was some type of certification where I could say, I could, you know, with confidence talk about- about that. therapist: Mm-hmm. Okay. What-- do you have any ideas as to what fields you might be interested in getting some more education, more training? client: I mean, I guess, I just don't really know what it's gonna be because I need to have a job now so I'm not really sure. therapist: Like what's going to be fastest. client: Right. I almost feel like that's more important than what I'm interested in, you know, because I'm like, I'm not going to go back to school for four years right now.
Okay, and so if- if you were, it sounds like if you were going to do something you'd wanna to do something really quickly like a short- a short certificate.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: I mean, I guess, I just don't really know what it's gonna be because I need to have a job now so I'm not really sure. therapist: Like what's going to be fastest. client: Right. I almost feel like that's more important than what I'm interested in, you know, because I'm like, I'm not going to go back to school for four years right now. therapist: Okay, and so if- if you were, it sounds like if you were going to do something you'd wanna to do something really quickly like a short- a short certificate. client: Yeah or something-- yeah, something that I could get immediate skills that would, you know, get me into some kind of a job now, even if it's not my long-term goal or, you know, career just- just get me into something and then I can always focus on.
Yeah, sort of like a short-term or transition into something else.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Right. I almost feel like that's more important than what I'm interested in, you know, because I'm like, I'm not going to go back to school for four years right now. therapist: Okay, and so if- if you were, it sounds like if you were going to do something you'd wanna to do something really quickly like a short- a short certificate. client: Yeah or something-- yeah, something that I could get immediate skills that would, you know, get me into some kind of a job now, even if it's not my long-term goal or, you know, career just- just get me into something and then I can always focus on. therapist: Yeah, sort of like a short-term or transition into something else. client: Yeah. Great. Exactly.
But that would be steady and pays well?
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Yeah or something-- yeah, something that I could get immediate skills that would, you know, get me into some kind of a job now, even if it's not my long-term goal or, you know, career just- just get me into something and then I can always focus on. therapist: Yeah, sort of like a short-term or transition into something else. client: Yeah. Great. Exactly. therapist: But that would be steady and pays well? client: Mm-hmm.
Okay, and allow you to afford everything you need to afford.
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client: Yeah. Great. Exactly. therapist: But that would be steady and pays well? client: Mm-hmm. therapist: Okay, and allow you to afford everything you need to afford. client: Yeah, because even those jobs right now don't feel accessible for me. They seem like, you know-- seems like if-- maybe if I were better on the computer or you know.
Okay, so specifically getting some computer skills will help?
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Mm-hmm. therapist: Okay, and allow you to afford everything you need to afford. client: Yeah, because even those jobs right now don't feel accessible for me. They seem like, you know-- seems like if-- maybe if I were better on the computer or you know. therapist: Okay, so specifically getting some computer skills will help? client: Yeah. I think so- I think so because I don't-- I can't-- I don't really have anything on my resume that talks about—
The technology.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Yeah, because even those jobs right now don't feel accessible for me. They seem like, you know-- seems like if-- maybe if I were better on the computer or you know. therapist: Okay, so specifically getting some computer skills will help? client: Yeah. I think so- I think so because I don't-- I can't-- I don't really have anything on my resume that talks about— therapist: The technology. client: Yeah.
Mm-hmm. Okay. So whatever and so far it sounds like getting a job is really important right now and you really need the money and you really need to take care of your children and it sounds like you have some ideas as to how you could get to these interviews for one, and then once you're there at the interview, feeling more confident about your skills, um, getting some child-- reliable child care certainly sounds very important.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: That would be great. therapist: So what would you like to do next, you think? client: Well, find the childcare resources- therapist: Okay, okay. client: - is- seems to be- that seems to be the—
That's a priority.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: - like maybe there's a weekend, I mean— therapist: Well, I'm glad we figured that out and I think you'll feel better over the next few days. client: Oh, thanks so much doctor. I'll just take it easy for a couple of days. therapist: Well, since I have you here and we still have a few minutes left, I'd like to bring up another topic. I noticed that your blood pressure and your weight have been climbing a bit over the past few years. We haven't really had time to talk about this much before and I may be able to offer some useful strategies. Would it be okay if we discussed weight and health for a few minutes? client: Yeah, I suppose. I know my weight is a problem, but every time I try to take it off, I end up gaining it back. I don't know what to do.
I know how you feel. Managing weight can be frustrating. Maybe we can just start trying to figure it out together and I'll be here to help you through the challenges.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Oh, wow, that sounds good. You know what? Come to think of it, I have some time before I have to go back to work and I saw a nice park on the way over here, maybe I can take a short walk after this appointment. therapist: That sounds great. client: And you know what? I used to really love to dance, but I haven't done that in such a long time. therapist: Well, dancing is a great exercise, especially because it's fun. client: Hmm. And I know my family would support me if I could just find some place where I can go dancing.
Oh, that's great to hear that your family is so supportive. And I bet there's a dance class somewhere around where you live or maybe even a dance fitness class at the gym.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
therapist: That's great. I'll see you soon therapist: Uh, welcome. And, uh— client: Thank you. therapist: I'd say my name is Mark and I work here at Green Prescriptions. And- client: Mm-hmm.
I know a little bit about you from the referral letter from the doctor.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Thank you. therapist: I'd say my name is Mark and I work here at Green Prescriptions. And- client: Mm-hmm. therapist: I know a little bit about you from the referral letter from the doctor. client: From my GP?
From your GP, yeah.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: And it revealed that apparently, I might have diabetes 2. Well, that's what he says. therapist: Right. client: Um, I-I think that I feel perfectly well. I-I'm, you know-- I understand people with diabetes are a little bit plumper than I am. therapist: Mm. client: But, um, that's really why I'm here. I'm on his command, almost.
Right, so he kinda gave you a directive?
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: But, um, that's really why I'm here. I'm on his command, almost. therapist: Right, so he kinda gave you a directive? client: Well, he did. He says he's going to put me on some sort of program if it gets worse. therapist: Mm. client: But as I say, I-I feel absolutely fine now.
So it kind of came a bit of a surprise, you feeling okay.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Well, he did. He says he's going to put me on some sort of program if it gets worse. therapist: Mm. client: But as I say, I-I feel absolutely fine now. therapist: So it kind of came a bit of a surprise, you feeling okay. client: Yeah.
You go for this checkup with the doctor. And he says, "You've got Type II diabetes."
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: But as I say, I-I feel absolutely fine now. therapist: So it kind of came a bit of a surprise, you feeling okay. client: Yeah. therapist: You go for this checkup with the doctor. And he says, "You've got Type II diabetes." client: Mm, I'm very surprised.
Mm. Came out of the blue for you?
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client: Mm, I'm very surprised. therapist: Mm. Came out of the blue for you? client: Yes. I think it did. therapist: Mm. client: Mm.
And you said you kind of don't fit that kinda Type II diabetes look. That you kinda have had this idea-
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Yes. I think it did. therapist: Mm. client: Mm. therapist: And you said you kind of don't fit that kinda Type II diabetes look. That you kinda have had this idea- client: I-
-you've been-been overweight with it.
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client: I-I sort of look after myself to a limited extent in that way. Um, but I'm a busy person, I suppose I burn off the calories. And- therapist: Mm. client: I don't know, really. therapist: Mm. client: My lifestyle—
Hmm. So it doesn't quite fit in your head, Type II diabetes and-
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client: -you know, why you are-- Look around you. therapist: Mm, mm. client: um, I just felt that, um-- I mean, I don't think he was wasting my time because why would he do that? therapist: Yeah, yeah. client: Right?
He's got a lot to do.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Right? Um, I just think that-- Well, I just don't feel like it, Mark. therapist: Mm. client: Um— therapist: So how are you feel in your head- client: I feel absolutely fine.
-and what the tests say kind of like don't join up.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: I mean, I get around, I sleep pretty well- therapist: Hmm-hmm. client: I sort of you know- therapist: Hmm. client: - I'm-I'm compos mentis. So I don't—
Yeah. What's the problem? Mm.
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client: I sort of you know- therapist: Hmm. client: - I'm-I'm compos mentis. So I don't— therapist: Yeah. What's the problem? Mm. client: What is the problem?
And how did this happen is probably kind of what you're also thinking. Well, how did this--?
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client: Um, but he-he was saying something about, I don't know, family or whatever. I don't know. therapist: Yeah. client: And I don't know if it's hereditary. therapist: Mm. client: I think he said something about it being hereditary.
So he mentioned, it might be a family thing. And so you-
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: And I don't know if it's hereditary. therapist: Mm. client: I think he said something about it being hereditary. therapist: So he mentioned, it might be a family thing. And so you- client: Yeah.
-maybe got from your parents or something of the sort.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: But he might well have it because he is- therapist: Mm. client: -a pretty cuddly guy. You know- therapist: Right. client: He's pretty big.
So he fits the picture-
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: -a pretty cuddly guy. You know- therapist: Right. client: He's pretty big. therapist: So he fits the picture- client: Well, yes, the stereotype,-
-when you think about what he-he-- Yeah, he's stereotypical.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: He's pretty big. therapist: So he fits the picture- client: Well, yes, the stereotype,- therapist: -when you think about what he-he-- Yeah, he's stereotypical. client: Yeah, I guess.
A little bit bigger, perhaps doesn't look after himself that well, and he fits that foot
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Yeah, I guess. therapist: A little bit bigger, perhaps doesn't look after himself that well, and he fits that foot client: Well, yeah. I mean, as far as I know, I hadn't seen him for- therapist: Yeah. client: -I don't know how many years.
Mm. So you got this knowledge as a witness there's some family history of diabetes in the past?
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Well, yeah. I mean, as far as I know, I hadn't seen him for- therapist: Yeah. client: -I don't know how many years. therapist: Mm. So you got this knowledge as a witness there's some family history of diabetes in the past? client: Apparently so. Yes, apparently so.
Doctor mentioned that as being a factor.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: And why go any further, it's there? therapist: Yeah. client: Can't help it. therapist: Yeah. client: They live pretty long lives, they did, all right.
They managed with it.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: As you get older. therapist: Yeah. client: I mean, I don't-I don't leap over five bar gates like I used to, you know, um, as opposed to, uh, running with the backs now, I tend to spend more time, you know, with my old mates in the bar. therapist: Yeah. client: At the rugby club and-and-and the such like, yeah. And, um, the fish I'm hooking, I'm not after the kings anymore, I go for the snapper now, it's a bit easier, you know.
A slightly more sedate lifestyle.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Um, I haven't noticed. therapist: Mh-hmm. client: I really haven't noticed how, um, okay I get a bit--I suppose I get a bit out of breath sometimes. therapist: Okay. client: If I rush too much that-that's true. Um, I suppose, um, I don't go upstairs two at a time anymore, I use one at a time.
So a little bit sort of energy is not quite there sometimes? The vitality.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Um, more than I would normally. therapist: Yeah. client: But that would be, that would be about it. therapist: Mh-hmm. client: Um, is it getting worse? I don't know. I-I-I suppose. What worse? Is it-is it increasing? Well, to say, I don't really notice it.
You haven't noticed it. So it's a progressive, you know, you've just seen this, as-as you got older, things have slowed down. You know those activities you used to do, but that's kind of like what happens.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Um, as I say, uh, you know I-I don't do any regular form of exercise, I have to say, not anymore. therapist: Yeah. client: Um. therapist: Okay. client: But maybe I-maybe I don't know.
Hmm, a bit of a mystery there.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Um. therapist: Okay. client: But maybe I-maybe I don't know. therapist: Hmm, a bit of a mystery there. client: I mean I've got uh, well I-I mean I've got a great lifestyle. I mean if it's very-it-it's very good. I mean I've got all my mates in down at the rugby club. And I've got uh, you know even in the summer when that's a bit damn. I used to coach rugby and I coached cricket when I finished playing. So-so I've got the-the guys in the cricket club, um, you know, for the-for the, uh, for the summer evenings. And, uh, and then, uh, the-then, of course, we've got the fishing, and that's all of us combined. We're a big gang, really.
Really? So what I'm hearing is there's actually a lot of aspects in your life which are really good.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: But maybe I-maybe I don't know. therapist: Hmm, a bit of a mystery there. client: I mean I've got uh, well I-I mean I've got a great lifestyle. I mean if it's very-it-it's very good. I mean I've got all my mates in down at the rugby club. And I've got uh, you know even in the summer when that's a bit damn. I used to coach rugby and I coached cricket when I finished playing. So-so I've got the-the guys in the cricket club, um, you know, for the-for the, uh, for the summer evenings. And, uh, and then, uh, the-then, of course, we've got the fishing, and that's all of us combined. We're a big gang, really. therapist: Really? So what I'm hearing is there's actually a lot of aspects in your life which are really good. client: Oh, I think my life yeah. My life is great.
From your perspective, things are going well?
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: I mean I've got uh, well I-I mean I've got a great lifestyle. I mean if it's very-it-it's very good. I mean I've got all my mates in down at the rugby club. And I've got uh, you know even in the summer when that's a bit damn. I used to coach rugby and I coached cricket when I finished playing. So-so I've got the-the guys in the cricket club, um, you know, for the-for the, uh, for the summer evenings. And, uh, and then, uh, the-then, of course, we've got the fishing, and that's all of us combined. We're a big gang, really. therapist: Really? So what I'm hearing is there's actually a lot of aspects in your life which are really good. client: Oh, I think my life yeah. My life is great. therapist: From your perspective, things are going well? client: My life is great, and then you turn around and say, "Hey you've got-- you-you're ill, you're sick.
Yeah. It doesn't fit.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: And um, no I'm not. But you see, he said to me that he's gonna put me on some sort of, uh, a daily monitoring of, is it sugar levels? therapist: Mh-hmm. client: And I'm gonna have to take regular pills. therapist: Right. client: Well frankly, the only pills I take are sort of paracetamols.
Yeah. When you get uh, a headache.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Well frankly, the only pills I take are sort of paracetamols. therapist: Yeah. When you get uh, a headache. client: For a bit of the head in the morning, you know. therapist: Yeah. client: Um.
So the idea of having to test-test your blood sugar and take medications is kinda like off--
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Um. therapist: So the idea of having to test-test your blood sugar and take medications is kinda like off-- client: Come on, you know. therapist: And you know that's a bit too- client: Well, life is too short.
Too much.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: And um, I think she used to look after me because she used to do the cooking and-and-and stuff like that. therapist: Okay. client: And I have to say that I'm not the best cook in the world. therapist: Mh-hmm. client: Um, and-and being on the run all the time and you know once I get back home, it's, you know, it's time to go down to the rugby club or whatever it might be, uh, we're out with the mates. And, uh, I-I do I suppose my food is not as healthy perhaps as it used to be when she was around. She's moved down to Hamilton to live with her mother, if you've met her mother. Anyway, but, um.
So then, since you've been on your own since you've separated, divorced and you've noticed that the things you eat and how you eat has changed.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: And, yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess, you know, that's when you, well, or whatever reason, you split up in life. therapist: Hmm. client: You start looking at the home life of somebody else, you're thinking, "Hmm, I use d to have this." therapist: Hmm. Yeah, yeah. client: And you think, " This is nice food, " isn't it? and you know.
Yeah. And your-- part of your wife used to do a lot of that for you?
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: And you think, " This is nice food, " isn't it? and you know. therapist: Yeah. And your-- part of your wife used to do a lot of that for you? client: Oh, she would do all the cooking. Yeah, yeah, therapist: Yeah. client: I mean, I never bothered to boil an egg in the water, you know.
And so she would kinda look after what you ate and healthy things that you had, spread in front of you and off you go.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Oh, she would do all the cooking. Yeah, yeah, therapist: Yeah. client: I mean, I never bothered to boil an egg in the water, you know. therapist: And so she would kinda look after what you ate and healthy things that you had, spread in front of you and off you go. client: Totally. I mean, I was just in charge of the wine, you know.
Mm-hmm. And now you have to think about what you might eat and sometimes you don't eat the best.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Maybe I'm just— therapist: Hmm. client: You know, because it-- you know this-- the pizza shop's just on the road. therapist: Yeah. client: And then there's-- I mean, okay, I confess that lunchtime, occasionally, it's uh, I'm hungry and McDonald's is very convenient
Yeah.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: You know, because it-- you know this-- the pizza shop's just on the road. therapist: Yeah. client: And then there's-- I mean, okay, I confess that lunchtime, occasionally, it's uh, I'm hungry and McDonald's is very convenient therapist: Yeah. client: -or Kentucky Fried or whatever.
Very appealing, isn't it?
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: -or Kentucky Fried or whatever. therapist: Very appealing, isn't it? client: You know, it's very easy. and then, um, then you think to yourself, well-- I mean, I do think of myself that maybe I should have a few vegetables around here or whatever. But then you go out into the supermarkets, you know, and you can pick up, uh, your- one of your TV dinners. therapist: Mm-hmm, Mm-hmm. client: So you bring those in and you open them up and put them in the microwave and there's vegetables there.
Yeah they look pretty good on the plate, don't they?
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: So you bring those in and you open them up and put them in the microwave and there's vegetables there. therapist: Yeah they look pretty good on the plate, don't they? client: Yeah, it looks- it looks fine, you know, et cetera. I mean, so that will happen occasionally if I've got a night in. But cooking-wise, no, I haven't cooked anything, um, other than boil the water for the kettle for a cup o coffee. therapist: Yeah. client: -for ages.
They're food choices in what you eat and what's in your diet it's not what-something you actually you've actually been aware of or had to think about in the past.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Yeah, it looks- it looks fine, you know, et cetera. I mean, so that will happen occasionally if I've got a night in. But cooking-wise, no, I haven't cooked anything, um, other than boil the water for the kettle for a cup o coffee. therapist: Yeah. client: -for ages. therapist: They're food choices in what you eat and what's in your diet it's not what-something you actually you've actually been aware of or had to think about in the past. client: Yeah. I do miss her breakfast. I have to say, we used to have get a nice breakfast.
So one thing that you noticed is diet and the eating patterns and-
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Well— therapist: -when you eat. That's one aspect. What other aspects do you think you've-- you would be--? client: Well, I used to be quite a heavy smoker, right? I mean, I'd smoke a pack in a half a day. And I knew that wasn't doing me any good. therapist: Right. client: I mean the thing is when you're a-- I mean, I've always smoked. So, but when you're young and you're a sportsman, you know—
You kinda juggle those two things and kinda--
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Well, I used to be quite a heavy smoker, right? I mean, I'd smoke a pack in a half a day. And I knew that wasn't doing me any good. therapist: Right. client: I mean the thing is when you're a-- I mean, I've always smoked. So, but when you're young and you're a sportsman, you know— therapist: You kinda juggle those two things and kinda-- client: Well, the two things they balance out, you know and everybody else is
You still run and have a cigarette?
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: I mean the thing is when you're a-- I mean, I've always smoked. So, but when you're young and you're a sportsman, you know— therapist: You kinda juggle those two things and kinda-- client: Well, the two things they balance out, you know and everybody else is therapist: You still run and have a cigarette? client: You know, you pass a cigarette down the backline almost, don't you? You know, just before the game gets—
Hmm. Hmm. Yeah, part of the culture.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: That's why you played and it was a big buddy-buddy thing. therapist: Yeah. client: That was rugby and cricket was the same really. therapist: Hmm. client: Um, but now—
But over the years, you've actually reduced your smoking or you've stopped altogether or at times?
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Um, but now— therapist: But over the years, you've actually reduced your smoking or you've stopped altogether or at times? client: Well I-I, yeah. I was getting a bit sort of-- I was getting a bit, you know, a bit wheezy and I thought, "I'll cut this out." therapist: Hmm. client: But I enjoy smoking. I really do enjoy it. So I cut it down to I suppose it's about 10 a day now.
Okay, so you meant to reduce.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Well I-I, yeah. I was getting a bit sort of-- I was getting a bit, you know, a bit wheezy and I thought, "I'll cut this out." therapist: Hmm. client: But I enjoy smoking. I really do enjoy it. So I cut it down to I suppose it's about 10 a day now. therapist: Okay, so you meant to reduce. client: Yeah, yeah.
You were noticing that it's having an impact on your breathing and health wasn't so good.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: But I enjoy smoking. I really do enjoy it. So I cut it down to I suppose it's about 10 a day now. therapist: Okay, so you meant to reduce. client: Yeah, yeah. therapist: You were noticing that it's having an impact on your breathing and health wasn't so good. client: Yeah.
When you related that to your smoking, so you managed to reduce your smoking.
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Yeah, yeah. therapist: You were noticing that it's having an impact on your breathing and health wasn't so good. client: Yeah. therapist: When you related that to your smoking, so you managed to reduce your smoking. client: Yeah, yeah. I sort of—
So you've made our decision to do that?
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a complex reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Yeah, yeah. I sort of— therapist: So you've made our decision to do that? client: it-it-it's-- you know, she will, "Why don't you give up? You've gone so far, why don't you just stop?" But I don't want to. therapist: Hmm. client: It's-it's-- I-I enjoy it, um—
Yeah, and it's hard to get to stop something you enjoy, isn't it?
Pretend you are a therapist and provide a simple reflection for what the client is experiencing.
client: Oh, yeah, yeah. I have two sugars. A couple of sugar in coffee. Yeah, yeah. therapist: Hmm. client: So we cut that down as I say. therapist: Hmm. client: But the problem goes that coffee, we're up to 8 or so, 10 cups of coffee a day now.
You're drinking more coffee. So what I've heard you say so far is, if I can just start right back from the beginning and you used to come in and sais, "I went to the doctor." You went for-- it sounds like you went for just a checkup.