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[ [ "Where in Pangkor? I am from near there and never seen such a place or such a beach. Is this like some place only friends of Najib can go?", "There's a small island called Pangkor Laut beside the main island, and it's privately owned by a 5-star resort.", "wtf\nmalaysia's epstein island for the rich?\nwhy PAS silent about that?", "How can you be from nearby and never have heard of Pangkor Laut Resort? It's been around for AGES now.\nAnd no, it's not an Epstein island for the rich, they have special deals at discounted rates for Malaysian citizens who want to stay. It's not cheap, but anyone can save for a holiday and go.\nJesus Christ, dude. How does this even relate to PAS.", "Pangkor is not Pangkor Laut. Malaysians are not even allowed to kayak near to that private island.\nPAS screams about Penang and how Penang is not Malaysian. I'm pointing out they are silent about this private island.", "Politicians, kan.", "Inb4 the comment you're replying to manage to trigger a bunch of socmed influencers who've been to Pangkor Laut to be so butthurt, it started a new TikTok trend where ppl who've holidayed there b4 defends PL and we start a new discourse on it. Cos we srsly need to move on from the BM/Green Wave topic. Sien already." ], [ "Why would Michelle marry an old white dude." ] ]

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[ [ "The guy doesn't look Malaysian. Any news on who is he and from where? Once my daughter and I were waiting for something in Cyberjaya and 2 guys almost tried to open the door of my car (passenger door). It was locked and I immediately moved the car so these guys just disappeared.", "You read Malay?\nhttps://beritaperak.com/warga-nepal-acu-pisau-cuba-larikan-kanak-kanak-perempuan-3-tahun-ditahan-polis/", "So it wasn't kidnapping at first. He was hungry but shouldn't fucking use kids and weapons..", "He could have just shoplifted food from a kedai runcit. What a dumb criminal.", "Aint that simple\nObviously the man cant think straight anymore at that point", "I agree. As someone who had been in that situation a few years back, I feel for the guy but obviously he shouldn't have done that. I hope he gets help.", "i hope he dies in prison", "Life will teach him, and will teach you as well.", "I very like this statement. But a bit of a twist. For me,\nLife is a test, Time is a teacher.\nThe longer you live, the better you will be in time. Once you quit (suicide), it means you're taking short/easier route to end you life.\nI respect people like you that keep going on in life even though it's cruel and hard but also i even more respect people that's been close to suicide but overcome themselves to stay alive.\nNo matter how hard the test is, life has to go on. Everyone in this test, and so we all.", "I'm cool with that too.", "perhaps you need lessons in real life as well... not from disney movies.", "my statement stands and you will understand when it hits you.", "Expecting someone to be hit with misfortune of that level just because you want to prove a point is quite telling of your character.", "and pray tell what would that be?", "If you needed suffering to hit you just so you can learn how you think your suffering necessitates the suffering of others, here's an operator:\nIt's a shitty lesson. Learn the empathy from the suffering if you must, but if you use it to justify the suffering of others, you're better off back in the hole where you came from.", "my statement stands and you will understand once you finish spm, get a job and have a family.", "Yeah it clearly hasn't hit you yet otherwise you wouldn't have said dumb stuff like that.", "What you said doesn't make sense. So if you have a family and you are in desperate need to feed them, with no money, and you get caught just like this man did, you still don't empathize with him?", "I guess you're from Tiktok Social Media?", "It's undeniable that he's at fault but he was just desperate for food", "Agree, what a despicable man there are many ways to get his meal kidnapping kids is a big NONO\nbut...\nnow he also got what he wanted, free meal for years in prison\nfunded by tax payers money, I really wish punishment for kidnapping kids far heavier.", "It's so easy for us in privileged positions and good mental health to condemn those who are not in the same position. You may think that you would behave differently in that position, and you probably would, but you also have had the benefit of a different upbringing, genetics, and living environment.\nOur policies should not be punitive for the sake of vengeance but rather to protect the public, reforming those who can be reformed, and keeping those who cannot be reformed away from the public (how to do this is a separate matter)\nWe need to evolve. Move away from vengeful mindsets and focus on reforming criminal behavior while also protecting the public at large.", "As much as I hate to say this, but I agree with some of your point.", "My first response to this, from a westerner’s perspective , was to beat him to death , dismember and hang him from a pole to show others what happens when you attempt to violate innocent people. Then I read your post and realized the errors in my thoughts. You are absolutely right. Vengeance does not solve the problem, it only perpetuates the cycle of suffering. Attacking the root causes of such actions; poverty, mental health, access to resources, etc is the answer. Thank you so much for cleansing my mind and reminding me of the path of the righteous man 🥰", "Haha, not my intent to be a mind cleanser, just offering my two cents. The more I learn about human behaviour the less convinced I am that we should be so quick to judge other people's actions.", "Guess what i'll do you one better. The privileged position you are referring to applies to you as well. It is easy for you to side the offender because it simply didn't happen to you or your child. No reasonable human would pat a kidnapper on the back and thank them for attempting to kidnap their offspring.", "Please re-read what I said carefully. I did not say anything about siding with the offender or patting them on the back. I intentionally chose the phrase \"us in privileged positions\" because I don't want to exclude myself from being capable of falling into this mindset.\nI agree that as a third party it's easy to talk about the objective morality of the situation, but just because someone who would be affected by the crime feels anger and desires vengeance doesn't mean we should code our laws to appease such emotions.\nI was responding to hackenclaw's lament with the tax payer's money being used to feed the perpetrator. My position is that we should reconsider the way we think about criminal justice. I think it should be reform focused rather than punishment focused. Perhaps having some form of punishment as a deterrent is still necessary (maybe, I'm not sure) but I think if we put efforts into reforming criminals so that they can be reintegrated into society, it would be tax dollars well spent.", "True\nMental illness is real", "Give him the rotan experience hehehe", "i hope they deport him", "where? Not like his home country can lock him up.", "What punishment do you recommend?", "If he had asked/begged for money, he would probably get it.", "hard to say but he had been starving for days according to the article.", "It’s shitty that he put the 3 year old in danger but hunger could drive a person crazy. That I can sympathize with.", "Those who have gone through prolonged hunger or difficult times in their life would understand.", "You mentioned that you have survived through that. Clearly we don’t do enough to take care of each other in this country. I’m glad you made it and hope you’re in a much better place now OP.", "I am in a much better place, thanks! And I did get help actually, but sometimes when it rains, it pours.\nIt's cliche, but the best thing about coming out of that hole is the lesson.", "Glad to hear that OP. Your positive attitude must have played a big part in getting yourself back up. Now onwards and upwards :)", "If that's the lesson you've learned, please, go back in the hole. What's \"cliche\" is that you think you could trivialise the harm done on an innocent simply because they came from extreme suffering.\nMaybe they should have let him kidnap the child, get some money from the family, and then let the child go and everyone would be happy, no?\nWelcome to the real world where nobody is that foolish to do exactly that.", "Does the end justify the means? Must one suffer as much as you only to learn that ending suffering necessitates the suffering of others, or worse, innocents? If the rest world does not suffer, what are they to you? Not humans?\nIf you needed to experience extreme suffering just to understand this, then your hunger isn't big enough for the rest of the world, buddy. If you think your suffering permits you to certain preferable ends, please by all means, TRY and TAKE THE LIFE of an innocent, and see if justice decided to give you a special pleading, just because you're hungry.", "anaknya ditinggalkan bersendirian < as much as im glad the guy gets caught and few satisfying kicks and punch were landed, couldnt we hang on to the 3 year old defenseless kid to do what you need to do?", "Cyberjaya seems like a safe suburban town but is full of creeps. As a woman, the number of times I have been followed by weird men while in Cyber…you won’t believe it.\nI’m not a xenophobic person, but you can already guess the nationality of the people who followed me.", "Either Rohingya or Bangla", "Wait. They tried to open your car and take your daughter away? Wtf", "Yes.", "Recently?", "A few months ago, some time in May.", "The guy doesn’t look Nepali.", "IIRC there's no one single look for Nepalese. Yes, they would generally look closer to Southeast Asian but not all of them.", "Most of them look more like Indians. Only in the high mountains, they are Buddhist and look more Tibetan, but that's a small percentage of the population. Most Nepalese are Hindu and live in the lowlands, culturally quite close to northern India. Nepali is written in Devanagari and related to Hindi. Lower population density and more laid back.", "Palestinian", "Hope u get all the love u need someday", "Or maybe Jewish" ], [ "Happenend very close to my house, Jeniang, Kedah.\nThe whatsapp copypasta :\n\"JENIANG 26/11/23 7.30 PAGI\nKes kejadian warga Nepal hendak menculik anak kecil yg berada di dlm raga motor umur 3 tahun dan sempat di Lihat bapa mangsa,perlaku menggunakan pisau yg dibawa oleh nya.\nKt kedai syed roti canai. Sama2 beringat. Saya post utk peringatan kita semua. Alhamdulillah anak selamat. Penculik dibawa ke BALAI.\nSekian berita terkini.\"\n<image>", "War be upon him", "Padan muka, curse be upon you!", "Shouldnt we be praying for him", "Yes we should, but I don’t want.", "Tbh, so effing tired of some Immigrants. Ik I'm non Malay but if you wanna come here, have some manners and attitude. Come her commit crime we deport you lah wahlao. Don't pray² lah. Lots Business owner and local ppl affected by Immigrants. Thankfully Malay ppl just learn about Immigration wahlao took so damn long." ], [ "We have a serious immigration problem that is going to get out of control in this country. Plain and simple.\nYou take a drive around central KL during the weekend, around Central Market area and you will feel like you are in a refugee ghetto. Just migrant workers all over the place...all.over.the.place. Then you have shoplots run by migrant workers. I literally saw one guy selling cow meat...outside the shoplot...the mean on top of newspaper..on the ground..just out in the open..flies everywhere...what the fuck man??????\nYou go to certain districts within KL / Selangor area...same feeling...whole communities of people who are not Malaysia. You go to Cyberjaya area and you see a big African community there. I know personally a few girls who were harassed seriously by guys from this community. (Not implying all of them are like this so save me the oMG rACisT BS...but these 'few bad apples' thing is starting to add up)\nIt is a nationwide problem...How are they getting in??? Are we monitoring and following up and booting out over stayers????? What is our bloody immigration department doing??\nI hoped for stricter reforms and a complete overhaul of the systems currently, which is inefficient, lazy and only take action when something is di-viralkan on social media.\nYet all I see is current administration praising them, giving bonus to them....pathetic.", "The deeper cause of the problem is we have an unsatiatable appetite for cheap labour, and nothing is cheaper than illegal foreigners, just a few steps away from owning actual slaves.\nThen there is abuse of illegal foreigners by the authorities, such as \"asking\" for bribe.\nWe are just the poor man version of the rich Arab states.", "Same same in the US lah. It’s a global problem between the have and have nots. Just different immigrant nationality here. I’ve heard similar reports from Europe, especially England and France.", "Not just That DBKL does fucking nothing. A few years back, I read that an Retired Teacher had her stall seized by DBKL because her license expired 1 month. She was of Indian Descent. She was 67 and could've just forgotten it. Meanwhile Rohingyas be making fire in the middle of Petaling Street and in front of Clothing stores, DBKL does FUCKING nothing. Local populations and businesses are hurt by it. Dbkl is fucking bullcrap cannot fix infrastructure. Need local Elections", "To be honest previously, It doesn’t bother me the fact that foreign workers work as a cashier until one point where I’ve had experiences where they often make the wrong order for my food and charges me some more expensive one instead of what I want….. cashiers and other services workers should be locals and I find it more comfortable if I’m dealing with local 7E’s cashier instead of foreigners…. Im not trying to be racist but I think it’s better that way….", "Go on FB search Rohingya, what do you find? Rogol,Cabul,Intai. Not just in KL but even one case in Kelantan. Out of all places. Crimes commited by Rohingya. Then they harass you for not donating. DBKL does fucking nothing. We need to deport them. UNHCR don't pay us. We waste taxpayer. If KL have local elections, ima fucking do a Progressive anti Immigration party called GoKL. Rohingya just most of them can't fit into Malaysian/Civil culture. They come here have kids 8 kids then cry in UNHCR. Fucking UNHCR. Ik some will say oh some Malays have 8 kids lah. They're citizens and most are in Kelantan, not KL. Haiyya. KL problem tall KL lah not Kota Bharu", "Malaysia Boleh.." ], [ "Street justice may not be pretty, but in this case, I'm glad it happened.", "Malaysians should learn from Indonesians about street justice.. 1 kampong will come out and beat that dude.. Then baru hand over to Polis", "should learn from south american FAVELAS", "South America Use guns, mana siuk.. Hand to hand combat is better", "Rwanda then? A parang party for all occasions." ], [ "sheeeshhh thought it was the JB one, but this is different case.. stay safe out there.." ], [ "My pity meter went -100 for the guy" ], [ "Source:\nhttps://beritaperak.com/warga-nepal-acu-pisau-cuba-larikan-kanak-kanak-perempuan-3-tahun-ditahan-polis/" ], [ "Beautiful! Fucking hit him again!" ], [ "Some Malaysian seeing this as punching/kicking opportunity. Just tie the damn guy and call police. No need to resort to such violence.", "While it isn't wise to beat up someone doing something illegal, but this is kidnapping. Can you imagine what happens when a kid gets kidnapped? Sold, disfigured, cut open, sell organs, cut off limbs to make him into a beggar, sold as slave, prostituting and many more. You think someone can swallow down that anger? Kidnappers should all be hanged. Beating them up doesn't even cover a grain of what they did.\nThat said, it seems like this case isn't kidnapping, but with a knife threatening for money cause of starvation.", "While I agree with the anger and I do believe that life is wasted on people like this. A society that punishes through brutality will never be rid of brutality.", "I don't know who's that man beating up the other one. But if it's the father. It is justified too. Imagine your daughter getting a knife held on the throat.\nI don't like violence as well. But damn if I don't gouge their eyes out if anyone harms my family. I don't like it, but I do understand the sentiments of it.\nBelieve is one thing, but to act is another. Brutality will never get rid of brutality, that is very true. It's a never ending cycle no matter what you choose cause it is just harsh.", "While I agree with your sentiment, brutality will never cease to exist in any society. Humans have been hardwired to use violence as a means of survival for millennia. It is almost impossible to reverse an impulse so deeply ingrained inside our DNA on a societal scale.", "I don't feel that excuses beating a person tied up/held down. Isn't it the same thing then, taking advantage of someone?\nSecured and rendered safe. What's the justification to hit someone vulnerable... They definitely deserve it but you are spotless and holy? If everyone got what they deserved, reddit would be empty.\nYou think someone can swallow down that anger?\nWhile I can understand the helmet guy punching (adrenalin happens) and all the hits before 20th second, it was the one later that bothers me.\nBut the the opportunistic side kick from the other dude to the head (56th second) looked like an asshole seeing an opportunity to lash out either their anger issues, bully issues or racist issues, and took advantage of the 'socially acceptable' situation to harm another. That was the one that I frowned upon. At about 25th second you can see him standing there watching. Again at about 48th second hes chilling... But abit later he kicks him... Just because. No one else is hitting the criminal, and he kicks and just walks off, there is no purpose other then self gratification on someone vulnerable. It wasn't an emotional moment or while subduing the criminal or in response to an escape or something.\nBut maybe im wrong cos im not following this story, can you justify that kick?", "Agreed…. If it’s once or twice would be fine… getting kicked and punched multiple times while being held tight is seriously too much…. Let the police do their job….", "Thing is, everyone calmed down already... Then the kick happened. TF.", "Of course it's wrong to hit. It is always wrong. The thing is, when it comes to such matters such as this, you can't tell anymore. I'm not justifying him, but I do not care as well. Because the matter is that the one getting hit did something unforgivable. Maybe he was desperate and lost his mind due to hunger, but nevertheless to threaten to harm a kid at knife point, he was just asking for it. He was lucky those people didn't mob him up and killed him. Again, that is definitely wrong, but what is to say when the same thing happens to your family and friends, or maybe even yourself?\nYou can't justify something complex on paper. Only thing is, there's the law. The law allows you to fight back and protect yourself during such moments, but not when you attack a tied up person. But attacking that way, most judges will forgive that and let it go. At most, that kicking person will get a fine, because the attack was not intended to kill. If there's a kill intention, then it is a whole other case and up to the judges to do their work.", "Of course it's wrong to hit. It is always wrong\nWhy your positions always so extreme. There are obviously right times to hit someone.\nIf there's a kill intention, then it is a whole other case and up to the\nIntent only changes the type of charges. People unintentionally kill someone. See USA police knee on neck scandal. If that flying kick hit the nose, causing a bleed n broken bones into the lungs... Intent or not that dudes gonna get in trouble. Even the whiplash, from a kick to the forehead, could be serious.\nbut what is to say when the same thing happens to your family and friends, or maybe even yourself?\nDid that guy who was hanging about an involved party to the crime? Cos that's totally understandable. Afaik, and i could be wrong, he was just a random person who saw someone held down and decided to do a flying kick. I already said, the earlier bearings are totally justifiable and understandable... The one in question is that one later at about 50th second.", "You're judging based on your assumptions. And I mine. And for me, crap people that do crap stuff deserve it until proven otherwise.\nWhile you, you have a pretty world mind. So perhaps you think of equal fairness or a peaceful solution. That itself isn't bad at all.\nI'm not extreme at all. Those who are extreme are those who did that rubbish stuff. All I do is just keep to myself and harm nobody unless provoked.", "And for me, crap people that do crap stuff deserve it until proven otherwise.\nI don't disagree. But the part we disagree is to what extend. So say this guy kidnaps the girl (idgaf hes starving or not) and they hold him down and start cutting his fingers off one by one. Is that ok? How about just 1 finger? Maybe 10 fingers insufficient, we cut other things out too? Police can pickup the parts later when they come to arrest. Where is the line?\nI don't think either is wrong per se, but we live in a society with certain rules. Some got leeway can close one eye la, but some things... Shouldn't.", "What you said didn't happen. What happened was he gave the nut a few kicks. What you said under the law is intentional mutilation. What he did was intentional harm. Under the law there are several categories on it, beatings, severe harm, attempted murder, murder, unintentional murder and so on. And it is up to the judge to set which, but in this case it is obvious. And you know what is the usual price for it? 1-7 day lokap, fine or both. There's only one case on the news during this year that I've read about is that the assaulter got a fine of RM500 for beating up a robber till unconscious with a stick.\nIf you think he shouldn't, it's all fine. I won't touch the guy if he is not bothering me. But I sure as hell will cheer on the father to whoop up his ass.", "What you said didn't happen.\nAhh which part? I may have seen wrongly.\nWhat happened was he gave the nut a few kicks.\nIm talking about the one singular kick. Pls give a timestamp, mine as mentioned is around 50th second.\nBut I sure as hell will cheer on the father to whoop up his ass.\nLike I said, doesn't look like the father, which would be understandable. Or hes a really chilled father who apparently acts like a bystander as mentioned in the other timestamp above.", "agree. i can understand if the fella is violent & resisting arrest, then u use violence to subdue him. but he's restrained oredi, let polis do their thing", "Let him experience malaysian hospitality first hand", "Done woke", "Kidnapping children?? I think the idiot above should be beaten to a pulp.", "How many of the kickers actually saw the kidnapping and not just heard orang kata?", "Mob justice ain't it, chief. Lynching someone to death (or near it) isn't justice at all, just unbridled rage to satisfy an urge to be violent towards someone. Mob justice is especially bad when those who participate in it have no context as to why they're doing the thing they're doing.", "PDRM does not hesitate to arrest more than one suspect if the suspect is beaten to a pulp. This happened so many times when a civilian caught a robber.\nBeating a suspect doesn't give you a medal. You're just making it worse.", "Agree that we shouldn’t default go for physical violence once the culprit has been subdued. How do the new arrivals know that those who are there are telling the truth and not a mistaken identity? It’s dangerous that someone could just randomly accuse someone on the street, get physical and a mob could just gang on the perceived target without further verification.\nJust pin down the suspect (without suffocating them and any potential lethal acts) and let the authority investigate the truth.", "When it happens near you, you will be pumped with adrenaline and you're gonna release it to the perpetrator. It's necessary until the perpetrator is secured and tied.", "I would beat the shit out of a child abductor if i had the chance", "The amount of punch and kicking in the video really justify imo.", "Sometimes they need that extra find out", "bleeding heart ppl like you are the reason why mandatory death penalty is abolished", "Mob aggression and even worse public lynching will almost always happens regardless of the country. Unchecked violence will attract more people to do the same as they felt there are no consequences and the feeling they had done some justice for the victim" ], [ "Malaysia allowed citizen's arrest, but I got to admit the public can be brutal sometimes.\nThere is a green monster inside all of us.", "nah, you are the one who was inside of a green monster /j", "Kinda sus comment", "", "Hello, this comment was removed due to being in breach of Rule 1: Bigotry and hate speech. Because of our history Malaysia talks about certain issues such as race very differently from Western countries. We acknowledge this on the subreddit but do draw some boundaries to keep discussions healthy.\nDefinition of bigotry: The act of treating the members of a group (such as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.\nBasic principle: If it's an attribute of a person that is out of their control and extremely hard or impossible to change, it's not nice to dump on them or their group just for that attribute.\nSome categories this applies to: Race, religion, sexuality, disability, national origin.\nSlurs: Use of slurs on the above categories is not encouraged on this subreddit and may be subject to warnings and bans.\nExample: Religion: It's okay to discuss and criticise aspects of the religion itself, but it's not okay to attack people because they are members of that religion (e.g.: Islam but not Muslims).\nPlease treat this as an official warning - further such activity may result in a ban, thanks." ], [ "Hantar dia balik ban dia masuk sini.", "From Palestine" ], [ "Please interrogate him, he should know whos behind him", "Sori i no speak bahasa malaysia /s 🤣" ], [ "I'd always refrain my self to say this,\nMalaysia dah tak selamat.\nEspecially there is alot of immigrant that the police cannot control.", "https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/safest-countries-in-the-world According to this, it says Malaysia is the 14th most safest country in the world. Couldn't find any other reliable source so feel free to prove me wrong but dang, even I was surprised that we are supposedly this safe.", "1 isolated case\nOP: Malaysia dah tak selamat\n🙄", "OP? Excuse me?", "Eh, sorry. OP of the comment :26559:", "Racist gonna be racist. Ironically, this was said by a person from a country built by immigrants.", "Just to clarify here, when u/flyden1 said OP, he meant the comment above him, not the one who posted this video.\nBut yeah, flyden's point still stands" ], [ "Isnt this a repost?" ], [ "OP read the article la, he was doing it for food. It wasn't an attempted child abduction as what OP claim", "🤦" ], [ "“tali takdak ah” ffs, go and find one laa. wtf." ], [ "The best things about Malaysia is, when there is BAD PEOPLE. We just fuckin demolish them, no matter who tf they are, we don't even know each other yet still works together to beat the shit out of them together.", "Sure or not? Take out bad people? Bet they themselves are bad people sometimes. I was harassed by a bunch of motorcyclist cause one of those bastard fell in front of my car, and 20 of these bastards stopped, block me and accused me of running him down and that jackass starts extorting money from me. Get a grip... Malaysia...", "If this was Sarawak, kena pancung sudah that dude.. Everyone will parade his head.. Other people that tries to abduct a child again will think twice.. Also the nationality that abduct the child will be hunted down" ], [ "This is why we reject PATI!" ], [ "Kasi patah semua gigi dia!" ], [ "I'd pay to be one of the crowd that kick that asshole's ass. Dudu chose the wrong neighbourhood to abduct a helpless child." ], [ "The Abang with the Cigarette in his mouth while Kicking that dude 🖤 Bravo!!!! Love him. Even with his cigarette, he saved the day!" ], [ "He’s a Palestinian", "Nepali hidutva", "No he is Muslim Palestenian", "Nope. he is nepali hindutva.", "if he's a palestinian then i am a Martian" ], [ "Looks some sort of an arab! I’m just gonna throw this out there, but this guy looks pedo as F!", "I believe he is Nepali and not arab?" ], [ "brownies all the same" ], [ "I don't think he had a plan. He's been starving for days according to the article.\nhttps://beritaperak.com/warga-nepal-acu-pisau-cuba-larikan-kanak-kanak-perempuan-3-tahun-ditahan-polis/", "He plan to eat the child.. Cannibal" ], [ "Worse than USA now" ], [ "Passerby almost killed the man tbh…", "Who cares, if the man succeeded abducted the child, the child would be dead", "You are absolutely right" ], [ "If the government ain't gonna help them by bringing them here then don't help at all. Bring them in then just leave them be? Then what? They start doing stupid shit , crimes and what not. Then what about us normal folk? Should we feel bad for them? Maybe, but their problem isn't our responsibility. We are a small country, and people here aren't even that well off to begin with. So why are we the ones that have to deal with the consequences? I'm sorry but please stop bringing them in here." ], [ "Mercedes F1 fan with a cheap shot. That tracks." ], [ "Get rekt" ], [ "Someone's mom actually called apunene to catch" ], [ "He well deserved all that kick from the people tbh" ], [ ":26554:" ] ]

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[ [ "It’s old video during covid. People recycle this video as spoof since lebai pas won’t keep shut about replacing pmx today.", "Ah. so it's fake after all?", "It is a real video. That really happened during covid era when he asked for pre recorded statements instead of live.", "" ], [ "meanwhile anwar just chilling https://twitter.com/luxentX/status/1648231472296521734" ], [ "You this happened. I remember watching this last time." ], [ "from here https://www.reddit.com/r/Bolehland/s/FrXJpcQ5eP" ], [ "Yes" ], [ "10/10 legit" ], [ "It is the same tactic that used by crypto scammers streaming stolen and doctored contents of Elon Musk, Xi, Biden, with clickbait thumbnails.\nPAS resorted to run a scam ring...to deceive people." ], [ "If u had to ask, steer off the internet op\nU might get scammed easily" ], [ "The video itself is legit but the title is a spoof." ], [ "Penang Harian have Pahang coat of arms as logo?" ] ]

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[ [ "BDS finally managed to piss off Melati Abdul Hai. She is a nice lady, but you do not want to piss her off.", "Backstory?", "She is the current Chief Marketing Officer at McDonald's Malaysia. She was put in charge back when McDonald's Corp (the global McDonald's) sold their Malaysian restaurants and the Malaysian McD license to a Saudi Investment Group. At the time the McDonald's brand in Malaysia was in the ropes and she turned it around. She is a very intelligent and nice woman until you piss her off. If you do, she will come at you with everything she has got and then some.\nSOURCE: I worked with her for many years.", "She sounds badass, any story you are willing to share?", "Only that she drove a lot of innovation on the digital advertising front. So much so that many of the other McDonald's worldwide including the US and Japan started emulating her strategies and McD Malaysia became the reference for digital advertising worldwide for McDonald's. But I don't know if that is still the case.", "She sounds like the kind of boss you want. Somebody chosen on merit!", "Isn’t the current CMO Eugene Lee?", "Unless things changed recently, no. Eugene used to be under her, but moved to Singapore to work for McDonald's Corp as the marketing head for emerging markets. But I have been out of the loop for a while, so my info could be outdated." ], [ "Reminder that BDS Malaysia is not formally part of the actual Palestinian run BDS movement, and that the main BDS movement does not call for a boycott of McDonald's:\nhttps://bdsmovement.net/make-an-impact", "BDSMovement\nBDSM", "It is \"endorsed\" by or at least related to the main BDS Movement, and if you actually read the website, they mention that you should follow local campaigns.\nhttps://bdsmovement.net/get-involved/what-to-boycott#:~:text=Check%20with%20BDS%20organisations%20in%20your%20country%20for%20the%20brands%20being%20targeted%20in%20your%20community.\nhttps://bdsmovement.net/get-involved/join-a-bds-campaign?country=Malaysia" ], [ "Their logo says Justice, Freedom, Equality lmao. Does this include LGBT and ex-Muslims? Asking for a friend.", "They are living in a delusion society or just being a random exploited puppet.", "Selective freedom. Damn hypocrisy", "Also no mention of justice for non-muslims aka kaffirs.", "Only when theres Jews involved, there is news. For them.", "Rules for thee, not for me", "", "Ummmm, No! No, it does not." ], [ "Oh boy, this is not going to end well.\nI can already foresee the shitstorm on Facebook comment section." ], [ "Ooh, this is an interesting conflict to see." ], [ "The opportunist in me wishes that this backfires so hard McD will further lower their price." ], [ "Damn Terrorist Hamas gang" ], [ "Finally mcd will it put a nail in their coffin or ?" ], [ "Boikot bukan sebab support yahudi tapi sebab harga 'yahudi' pastu lepas makan lapar balik" ], [ "Want to boycott, go ahead. Dont need to speak ill of other ppl. Let the masses decide for themselves" ], [ "this is stupid, shit like this just gonna rouse more shit. should've weathered the storm.", "Let’s see how it plays out first , too early to pass judgment whether it’s stupid or otherwise ." ], [ "I literally checked BDS Malaysia website, it has not made mention of boycotting McDonald's in its statements.\nWhat is Gerbang Alaf referring to here? Which statements are they asking to retract - can anybody point me to them?", "https://bdsmalaysia.com/boycott/\nThere's literal Mcdonald's picture on there\nhttps://bdsmalaysia.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/kempen-terkini-1024x1024.jpg\nhttps://bdsmalaysia.com/2023/10/15/press-statement-by-bds-malaysia-in-response-to-the-statement-by-mcdonalds-malaysia/\nWe note also that various McDonald’s franchisees in countries such as Turkiye, Oman, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar have announced efforts to provide aid to Palestinians. We further call on McDonald’s Malaysia to condemn Israeli genocidal policies.\nFailure to do the above will reflect McDonald’s Malaysia’s unconcerned stand as thousands of Palestinians are killed under Israeli bombs and may lead to calls for a boycott of all outlets here in Malaysia.\nHere they basically admits they're \"blackmailing\" Malaysia's Mcdonalds into making a statement against Israel, and also sending aid to Israel\nWhich they did within days\nBDS also said this\nJikalau McD Malaysia keluarkan kenyataan terbuka mengutuk jenayah pembunuhan beramai-ramai yg dilakukan oleh Israel terhadap warga Palestin, inshaAllah, BDS Malaysia akan keluarkan kenyataan bahawa McD bukan lagi dalam senarai sasaran syarikat utk diboikot di Malaysia.\nWhich they failed to do so even after Mcdonald's followed their threats", "There's literal Mcdonald's picture on there\nYes, but you need to read what they said about that.\nBerkenaan McD, ia bukan target utama BDS Malaysia. Ia dalam kategori Grassroots organic boycott targets. Berikut penerangan berkenaannya: McDonald’s (AS), Burger King (AS), Papa John’s (AS), Pizza Hut (AS), WIX (Israel), dsb. kini disasarkan di beberapa negara melalui kempen boikot organik akar umbi. Ia bukan dimulakan oleh pergerakan BDS.\nFailure to do the above will reflect McDonald’s Malaysia’s unconcerned stand as thousands of Palestinians are killed under Israeli bombs and may lead to calls for a boycott of all outlets here in Malaysia.\nHere they basically admits they're \"blackmailing\" Malaysia's Mcdonalds into making a statement against Israel, and also sending aid to Israel\nThey're saying that the boycott is happening, but they didn't start it. And they were suggesting McDonald's to be more aggressive in condemning Israel to be clear on their stance, rather than tiptoeing around the issue.\nWhich they failed to do so even after Mcdonald's followed their threats\nDid McDonald's send out a statement condemning Israel?\nWhich they did within days\nThis isn't condemning Israel. This is them giving aid to Gaza. It doesn't mean a lot. Even Israel is giving aid to Gaza.", "It doesn’t mean a lot? What did you do for them, mr. Keyboard warrior?", "Sounds like one of the Fox News tactics of \"tacit agreement\", which should sound familiar to some on here:\n\"... if they're against the atrocities in Gaza, they would have mentioned an opposition against it and yet there isn't any. We are not saying they're supporting to the actions of the aggressors. Just asking the questions here, folks\".\n*deep frowns and silence, staring at the camera*" ], [ "Less burgers less fat kids. All good." ], [ "McDonald also to blame. No balls, want to kowtow to blackmailers. Have some backbone and integrity la. Stand strong till the end but instead kowtow to pressure from customers." ] ]

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[ [ "Knowing malaysians, many will rush to update on the 30th of march, and then system crash. And finally gov give extention." ], [ "This came abruptly. Previously sounds like automatically get our info somewhere. Now suddenly want us to do data entry lol. I highly doubt 3 months is enough" ], [ "Let's see how this goes" ], [ "Why do we need to update it? Can't they just access our data from LHDN?", "LHDN doesn't have info on the b40...they don't file taxes", "they should use the e-kasih database instead. its a dedicated database for poverty. kementrian pembagunan wanita are tasked to kept this db updated.", "If you want subsidies you MUST work for it 🫣🫣🫣😬", "This is a tough one to be honest.\nAssuming they couldn't get the data otherwise, on one hand I don't want to trust the gomen with my personal info.\nOn the other hand, I also don't want to pay the current pam hijau rates for petrol 😅", "agreed. I don't trust the government with personal info." ], [ "Do T20s have a reason to do it? Seems like it’s just handing over data that could be another avenue for a leak.", "Only those who are eligible for subsidies so T20 don't need to bother unless you want to update your personal info for the gov", "Better update lor mana tau if you living with old parents can get subsidi using parents info or if give subsidies depend on your vehicle maybe you drive myvi that usually a b40 car", "They want to trace all groups so that more data on which person pay taxes. Lots of so call b40 have ubregistered bussinesses. Same like t20. So yeah, indirectly have better track and potential nation revenue" ], [ "how do you relay this information so people that actually need it knows they have to update their information?\nsms\ntv adds from 7pm to 10pm\n4 social media posting\n:26554:" ], [ "Im actually 50/50 on this. With mydigital id couple with this padu. With so much information in 1 place, its just a matter of time the gov do something like social credit follow china. They already have all the resources to do so.\nAnd given a gov thats easily koyak, I dont think its impossible.\nYou banyak bunyi, cut social credit, if below certain score, cannot receive any gov subsidy or any form of assistance.\nTill now, they have yet to release any info how they going to determine a person is eligible for subsidy. How do they calculate. The only info they gave is no longer b40, m40 and t20.", "Yep, this is the endgame. Folks here seem chill about it but imagine a PAS-Bersatu coalition with that kind of power...", "PAS bersatu ministers never threaten openly to send police car to persons house, or actively control and monitor the media. Im actually more worried with this gov. They are too trigger happy.", "That’s essentially the end goal. It’s all wrapped in a beautiful package as “subsidies” now. Once they have all they need, it’s a centralized surveillance system.\nUpdate your face and spotted location from CCTV (states now starts using AI CCTV), use it for election targeting as now they have your real and up-to-date address to precisely determine the demographic, monitor your movements (they can effectively do this when you need to scan or show your “PADU” authentication during payment of petrol), monitor your transactions (again, through the authentication) and many more you could do with centralized database.\nRemember people, information is currency, think twice before you take any further action.", "Social credit, the crab form of government policy.", "Sooner or later, digitalized ringgit." ], [ "Where to do it?", "wait 2/1/24 ,pmx need to launch it 1st" ], [ "The meta is changing" ], [ "Sounds like some Gestapo shit here" ], [ "Why is there a deadline to begin with? What happens to people who start/stop working after 30th of March? Getting married and having new child? The population changes over time no?\nDoesn't sound like a central database to me if it has to involve data entry from the user.\nFrom the article they even mentioned that the data isn't flowing freely within the government. It sounds like a yet-another-separated-system to me.", "Have some faith in PMX he is the chosen one to lead Malaysia to more glory" ], [ "I'm just worried there will be another data leak like what happened to EPF recently, and I strongly feel that it's not a matter of \"if\", but \"when\" that will happen.\nOn the other hand I also don't want to potentially lose out on subsidies, so I guess I'm just going to drag and finally cave in and update at the last minute" ], [ "Anybody already done it? What kind of data is it asking?\nHome address and current income?", "Not yet launch, just preliminary notification" ], [ "I though they have those data during occasinal banci thingy... wtf..." ], [ "Will never give info to the Gov. Becarefull what we share to them." ] ]

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[ [ "Users often report submissions from this site and ask us to ban it for sensationalised articles. At /r/Malaysia, we oppose blanket banning any news source. Readers have a responsibility to be skeptical, check sources, and comment on any flaws.\nYou can help improve this thread by linking to media that verifies or questions this article's claims. Your link could help readers better understand this issue. If you do find evidence that this article or its title are false or misleading, contact the moderators who will review it.\nI am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns." ], [ "What's with lots of murderings lately", "It's Klang", "Its for the greater good", "The greater good", "\"FOR TAU\"\nMy units, seconds before getting destroyed by a horde of Orks", "Yarp", "Have u seen them swans?", "Sneak peak of the new gta v dlc" ], [ "Not only murdering cases keep increasing in Malaysia, but it's mostly happen in Klang. Wth is going on at Klang?", "\"Klang is not for human live one\"\nThat's why when I joked about KL annexing all the surrounding areas to form a state, I told Selangorians that they can keep Klang :26554:", "Truly the Florida of Malaysia", "i read someone else saying it’s the detroit of malaysia and i think that fits better…lol", "Not Florida, that is Kedah. If Selangor is California, then Klang is Compton.", "KLang. Take KLang thanks.", "in fact, lets give Klang the Singapore treatment and give em independence. they can figure it out themselves", "\"Klang is not for human live one\"\nIs the most populous area...", "By district or city/municipal council, klang is not the most populous area. Don't get it confused with klang valley, which is a collection of cities/districts surrounding putrajaya and kl.\nBy district, it'll be Petaling district by far. By city/municipal council, it's either kajang or pj.", "I think Subang jaya is huge, that entire place is like a whole residential zone. lol", "I live in subang myself, it is not exactly huge when compared to cities like pj or shah alam. But very densely populated. As of 2020 MBSJ census (when it was granted city status), the population is slightly above 700k iirc. In the same year, petaling jaya's population is more than 900k.\nThen again, it's kinda hard to get reliable stats on population by cities compared to districts and/or electoral constituencies.", "Klang is a busy port city with alot of trades, incoming ships and alot of opportunities for making money, so there will be underworld kinda of things 🫣 This been happening more than 100 years", "So it's an open world pvp area?", "It's Malaysia's very own GTA. We need a game titled GTA: Klang Valley", "There's more population in kv than anywhere else in Malaysia and body are harder to hide. Compared to the other state.", "It's statistically the most unsafe city in Malaysia, literally our version of Detroit.", "Why single out Detroit when Memphis, Tennessee is the most dangerous city in the US?", "Detroit is the most popular one. Theres a meme about it.", "", "Hang Tuah is from the area.", "More people more crime,more dense the population the higher the frequencies.", "Sibu also have one" ], [ "Is this hanging arrangement even possible? I always thought your legs have to be off the ground", "The strangulation device (probably a metal wire or rope) is still tensing her airway since her body is druped as her legs are not supporting the body, so the body is still hanging", "Seated hanging is a thing. The late great Robin Williams committed suicide like that. Also Kate Spade did the same, I think. And if you watch the show The Wire, there's one scene where a murder victim is made to look like he committed suicide by hanging (seated)" ], [ "Err I didn't expect the article to have uncensored photos of the victim hanging.", "Just WoB being their sensationalist/insensitive selves.", "“Yooo check out this dead body!!! Bruhhh!! Also here’s some penis enlargement pills ad. Next up, read up on this top 10 celebrity sex life!!”\n~ WOB", "theres no gore and the identity is hidden, its within general guidelines.\non lyn theres a vid showing the face. i can tell u she just seems like shes asleep. i have no idea who she is. but theres no real value of seeing unless just to cure your curiosity" ], [ "if someone from Klang asks you to hang out with them, just say no." ], [ "Regular Friday in klang", "Can't have shit in Klang." ], [ "Klang trying to one up any other cities that has murder cases of recent late" ], [ "Klang not for human live one.", "Kan? :26554::26554::26554:", "live\nBut how can they be live? :26562:" ], [ "What does this have to do with 'cultural'? NSFW tag man... Don't feel good seeing dead body on my feed.", "It doesn't show the face\nIt's not really apparent" ], [ "Murder spree" ], [ "Wouldn’t be surprised if that place becomes haunted" ], [ "Guys, stop, nothing is pointing to a murder. Look at the pictures, she could have just stood. To me it look more like a suicide than a murder.", "Yeah I also wanted to point out that there will be a spike in suicide rate in the coming christmas and new years. That’s just how it is. If you know any loved ones that are alone, it’s a good time to invite them out." ], [ "So that LRT station soon will have a ghost movie coming out?" ], [ "Potential paranormal activity place" ], [ "Don't mess with loan sharks" ], [ "Straight out of a damn horror movie" ], [ "Asian mexico" ], [ "could be mental illness or murder case" ], [ "well this is unnerving" ], [ "rohingya lady" ], [ "When some one took \"lets Hang out\" too serious. R.I.P" ], [ "There's many real news outlet out there. please don't use this shitty world of buzz.\nunless TS is a wob simp" ], [ "Worse than USA now", "Nahhhhh", "Yep. As per population density" ] ]

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[ [ "He really need to keep the receipts\nA family friend was sued by his daughters for not membayar nafkah after his divorce from their mother, but man keep all the receipts and won the lawsuit.", "wow! how the mother 'influenced' the children...\nWhatever pun, both sides need to keep receipts if anything happens.", "So, did the girls sue their mother after finding out she pocketed the child support money?", "This also one of the classic story I heard", "how to pay nafkah anak-anak and keeping the records?\ncreate WISE (not affiliated/promote), get the physical card. pass the card, transfer money in there.\nyou keep the app, you can see when the money spent." ], [ "I was raised in a family where my mom made more money than my dad. My mom always ungkit, ungkit, ungkit my dad never contributed anything just because my dad always don’t have money. She claimed my dad never gave her sufficient nafkah.\nAfter my dad died, the house kinda defunct itself. My dad might not have money but he poured, poured and poured his energy, time and efforts into the family.\nI was sick? Dad brought me to the clinic. I got hospitalized? Dad came to visit me everyday even I didn’t asked him to. I got into an accident? He sprung himself trying to help my situation. I wanted to travel alone to take a paper in another state. He insisted to accompany me. Yes, I passed.\nSure, money can help you get out from a lot of difficult situations but it’ll never replace conviction, devotion, genuine love and empathy.", "your dad is 100% like my dad, he's a low ranking policeman, while my mother is a teacher . (salary differences there)\nI was involved in accident, my father came to help. in school I was bullied my dad came handled those bullies. I was hospitalised for few days due to my naughtiness as a child, my dad visit me everyday and bought me majalah Dewan Pelajar so I have something at the hospital.\ni wanted an electric guitar, my dad managed to source a used beat up electric for me.. for cheap.\nThank you dad.\nWhen he died, in a difficult situation my mom always ' kalau la ayah awak masih ada..)", "Bless your Dad, may his kindness and devotion as Father inspire you to become a great person.", "Good story", "Bawling my eyes out .", "After my dad died, the house kinda defunct itself. My dad might not have money but he poured, poured and poured his energy, time and efforts into the family.\nI'm glad you realize how your father lives his life. Never focus on Money, instead focus what really important, Life is Short.\nThe same thing will happen, even though my father's salary is significantly more than my mother's. My wage is five times that of my wife, and the same things happen, resulting in a divorce.", "the exact kind of answer im looking for", "thats how \"money vs loves\".. great story", "Sorry for your loss .I loss my dad and sister . Due to sickness. So I understand your pain." ], [ "Rich husband. - Its usual la\nRich wife - suami biawak hidup! Telur takde!", "Double standard of life that are conveniently ignored by some people. 😔" ], [ "Marriage in the modern world is difficult because of the never-ending comparing.", "Late stage of capitalism and feminism.\nFeminism is all good until you bring that back into home and put it on table loudly.", "And social media" ], [ "If the gender is reversed...?", "every single social media will talk about this. the husband personal information will be disclosed in less then a week. pro bono lawyer will offer their services to the wife to fight the husband in court", "The wife will also have an affair with the lawyer.", "This is the Drama storyline, bro :26561:", "bro delete all this thread or disney will copy and pasted in their next marvel movie", "With how bad their Marvel & Star Wars movies & shows quality nowadays, even if they copy it, they'll gonna f**k it up.", "Im just waiting disney making a 'drama jam 7\" at this point tbh. would be funny af seeing how far they have fallen", "But the lawyer is a hetero male disguised as a female, (enter whatever backstory) . The both fell for each other. But the wife is confused, I'm not a lesbian, she told herself.", "laugh in religious court favoritism", "Classic Result: End up divorcing, losing custody of the child, and having to pay alimony for ex wife every month.\nEx-wife will be featured in a magazine as a Strong Woman of the Month\nTitle: Stop Domestic Abuse", "We should normalise calling out toxic femininity. This here behaviour is it", "What do you mean? Like a husband who earns a lot calling his stay at home wife useless and deadbeat the the level of psychological detriment?\nThat's domestic abuse. This is also domestic abuse regardless of gender.\nWhat's your point?", "So what's a female version of biawak hidup called then?", "There is no female version of biawak hidup in a local context, because generally throughout most of global human history the objective reality was that the infant survival imperative/difficulty of pregnancy+childbirth+breastfeeding+raising kids common sense necessitated that the stronger men providing sustenance to a woman so that she in turn may attend to nourishing and caring for the family/and helping to keep the community together.\nEven if the woman was childless or bad at housework, there were few opportunities for earning and independent income , alone, safely, without danger of assault or violence or abduction , which is a reality even now.\nChivalry in the past dictated that an educated man in those times would understand that even a \"useless\"woman is a \"helpless\" woman, deserves his kindness and should never be considered a \"biawak hidup\" , because as woman, she and her children are more vulnerable to danger from men and the world in pursuit of being a provider like him.\n(Not saying successful single mom stories didn't happen or it is impossible, but not without many many risks to herself and her young offspring ).\nI believe regardless of gender and who is pulling in the bigger income, a couple working as a team should show love , appreciation , understanding ,kindness, honor and respect to one another.\nThe one who earns less or stays home or \"seemingly doesn't pull their weight\" should not be looked down on. Respectful communication matters." ], [ "this why sekufu is a thing. either way, an imbalanced dynamic would always disrupt a relationship", "Never ending battle. What if it's started with the husband had a higher salary then went stagnant for a few years while the wife salary kept on increasing. File for divorce each time the wives salaries exceeded the husbands?", "Glad that's not what happened to my parents. Dad was pretty loaded with his business till he got attacked with mini stroke. Now both happily living pencen life already", "Same also . They will complain men dont give time for them .. got money also problem , not got also problem", "☕" ], [ "La.. bkan susah sama2 and senang sama2 ke\nKata nak adil equality", "Old Saying \"Bagai Kacang lupakan kulit\"", "Bagai foreskin lupakan kontol /s", "My man spitting fire here 🔥🔥😱", "🤣🤣💀", "Equal . No hantaran . Not even in islamic . Mas kahwin . Need to inform people you marriage - fb got , twitter got , tik tok got. No need big feast", "Ya la ... Virtual live wedding reception. The platform should be built for the future \"covid-like\" events. Lots of filters to be taken with the newlywed and those who join online. Food will be distributed in coupon form/Grab food voucher", "some tiktok said 450k need for marriage . kinda nonsense . If celebrities may seem larvish but sponsor . We peasant , do peasants way .Focus on house payment more important." ], [ "Something I have discussed with my therapist. No relationship is ever equal.\nYou can be the same age, have the same education, make the same money, and still not be equal. There are other things at play-- emotional intelligence, etc.\nThe only important thing is that you want to understand and grow for each other. Breaking up is OK if the incompatibility is insurmountable, but you don't have to hurt someone to move on." ], [ "Being a man in 2023 and beyond gonna be even harder because of unrealistic and bs influence from social media. Stop using social media folks,it rot the mind.", "Just don't start if you are still sheltered pls. It's for your sanity", "No, Especially if you're sheltered.", "I dun really know much about socmed, I just know it's bad. I dun know any intricacies of it as I never started. From young I alr thought it rots your mind", "Yeap, young mind, consuming socmed thinking reality is like this. Skewed view of how world looks like. Brain rot.\nIf you're sheltered? Double brain rot. No point of irl reference." ], [ "Husband should put a hidden mic on himself. Collect enough evidence then ask a lawyer if a divorce would be messy." ], [ "☕️" ], [ "But what gomen position pays RM8k?", "Late stage cikgu can reach 8k wi5h elaun, doctor starts at 5k min basic, can go up to 10k in 10 years ish. Pedalaman stations get 10% of basic at least. Hardcore pedalamans get 1k at least.", "I can attest to the pedalaman one. Kinda my dream tbh, to get 1k elaun for not leaving my housing area.", "Hard-core pendalaman got 1.5k 😚", "It used to be 3k a few years back. Wqs a dream of mine to go to Mabul, lol.", "Damnnn... my lazy ass would love having that kind of money. My sister got it, but it doesn't mean much cause she likes to go out, and one way going out was 300-700 if she doesn't find someone to share the speedboat with.", "and one way going out was 300-700 if she doesn't find someone to share the speedboat with.\nKapit? Wait, Kapit now got road. Where ah?", "Aaa.. Sungai Passin. I heard got road if u pass Daro, but she doesn't have a car so she either uses the ferry thingy or the speedboat.\nBut she got transferred earlier this year so dunno la how they are rn.", "I have a cousin who is also a teacher. He teaches in a rural village somewhere in Sri Aman division. Had to travel by boat to get there.\nThe number of students are so few that sometimes they put everyone in one class, no matter what Year they are in. Imagine that classroom scene from anime Non Non Biyori.", "Homebodies will make insane bank in p3. I'll be content with going out like once every month for supplies and just chill at home the rest of the time, lol. And depending on the local community, you get free food once in a while.", "Plenty.", "Thanks", "Plenty. You think gomen worker got paid peanut or something.", "Age 40 48 grade and they always complain not enough" ], [ "Bombastic sideeyes" ], [ "As a single source income in my family, i think it doesn't matter who earns more. Doesn't matter how much i make, if my housewife wife doesn't take care of the house and kids my life would be hell too" ], [ "Marrisge is an equal partnership of unequal efforts" ], [ "And this is why I want to remain single", "handsome?", "Single and handsome = sayangnya…\nSingle and hodoh = memang patut pun", "Should be\nSingle and Good Attitude = Sayang\nSingle and Bad Attitude = Memang Patut Pun\nAs outlook does not last forever in the end we will die and old too", "Nak sedapkan hati sendiri ke ni? 🤔", "Hati tu tak payah la sedap sudah jadi fossil dah:26554:", "I mean \"hand-some\"", "Three-Some?", "Four-some?😏", "🫣" ], [ "betul la uncle rosyam kata tu" ], [ "Guess it's one of the burdens men have to carry. That's what makes us men i think. There's lots of talk about these issues." ], [ "Remember last time theres a podcast with Rosyam Noor and he talks about wife with higher income will end up becoming egoistic? A lot of idiots condemned him. Well...." ], [ "Woman." ], [ "women hav 8k. \"i dont need no man\" men hav 8k. \"i can support my family\"" ], [ "Lmao plenty of whataboutism ITT" ], [ "This applies to both genders. If you don’t make at least RM 10k, do not get married.", "Lol imagine the kind of malaysia we'd have if this is enforced", "Hahahaha,any country will cease to exist within a generation if everyone follow this logic.", "10k per person, or both combined? like that looks like i am not suited to get married already la friend.", "RM 10k per person." ], [ "", "Or dont marry a horrible person. If your wife stays simply because of looks and performance. Thats a depressing marriage" ], [ "To be honest I look down on men who can’t earn money even though worked for many years. If you’ve worked for 10 years and your salary is still 3k then the problem is probably you.", "To be honest I look down on men\nEither you look down on people from both genders who meet the criteria....\nOr..\nYou just don't look down on people", "I look down on your existence for having a stupid take like that.", "I can agree with you on that. Just wondering, should men look down on women who can still be considered as incompetent drivers even after driving for so many years?", "boringggg, you seem insufferable" ] ]

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[ [ "book the train if possible. it’ll save you a lot of time and it’s fairly inexpensive." ], [ "Search on carousel for transport to Singapore. Ubhave a few choices like starex." ], [ "KTMB Shuttle Tebrau. RM5 per person, dedicated immigration counters just for train passengers so you never have to wait too long to get through" ], [ "SGMYTAXI , they can pick you up and drop you off. Just book with them" ] ]

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[ [ "Depends on location probably. The place you were at must've ran out of cards", "Interesting, do you think when I renew my license in 2 years I’ll be able to get a card instead ?", "No, Digital ID thing is 2024 and onwards, currently the JpJ is only want to finish their stock if have have lar ..if don't have you go digital" ], [ "Pp" ] ]

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[ [ "Meanwhile roadside stall, warong auto halal", "Auto halal as long as it's owned by a Malay /s", "Why /s when it's true???", "In my experience of business, everyone has the capacity to cut corners and ignore certification/specification requirements. No group of people is exempted.", "That's the truth." ], [ "Not this shit again. Tak paham aku, kalau was was tak payah pegi la. Sushi mentai tak sure halal ke tak, aku terus tak pegi. Apa yg susah", "Diorang ni semua buta2 ikut ada halal ke x. Kalau xde halal, gerenti haram. Bodoh nak mampus. Kalau ikut logik macam ni, warung2 tepi jalan x boleh makan la tapi berlambak je orang Melayu makan, sebabnya orang Melayu punya owner.\nLepastu diorang sibuk claim kata orang2 yg makan benda xde logo halal ni tak belajar agama padahal dalam Islam ni ada konsep was was. Kalau x rasa yakin, xyah makan. Kalau rasa yakin, boleh makan. Ikut cerdik akal sendiri la.", "Orang islam boleh guna akal berfikir? Tapi ustaz kata otak tak perfect kena ikut quran hadith sebab kita akan berfikir macam macam /s", "Dengki is the reason", "Tak dpt pergi nnti maruah tercabar pulak. Mana boleh.", "Til why sushi mentai usj9 disappeared after MCO, Ada halal problem. Used to be crowded and need to queue", "Xleh biar saudara dikonpius oleh kedai x halal ni... Dpt kumpul pahala selamat saudara drpd dicemari gitu...\nOwai" ], [ "The mak cik who sell near my house lorong also not halal? Wow I can't believe I'm supporting a Yahudi agenda service.\ncough", "Kamu remaking beriani ahh" ], [ "Abang Ameen again. This guy is leading the with hunt recently", "Yeah he's a piece of shit. Doesn't surprise me that he used to be involved in politics. I hate how he's using the ReLiGiOn excuse to push what is basically thinly veiled racism at this point." ], [ "But nasi lemak stall tepi jalan also no halal cert.", "No average makcik can source 100% of its ingredients from halal companies. Can you really find halal cert belacan? Sure but in bulk.", "Exactly. But you don’t see them authorities commenting anything regarding roadside stalls or warungs. 🤔" ], [ "Many shops don't serve pork and lard, but can't afford halal certification. Don't unfairly penalize hawkers." ], [ "Are your home kitchens halal certified?" ], [ "“Muslims are obliged to ensure that all food and drinks are clean and halal because they are our flesh and blood. The most important thing is to make sure that the restaurant or eating place has SPHM because the halal sign indicates the operation and food ingredients in a premises meet the requirements.”\nthe road side stalls / warongs / home cooked food - (open house, kenduri etc) also don't have halal cert…\nBased on cleanliness it self, most of this tepi jalan stalls / warongs would have failed miserably", "Remember the complaints about getting rotten food at the Ramadan bazaars? Nobody came out and shout gerai ko xhalal at those vendors. There was even a case where there were maggots on a sotong dish eww", "Mempersoal melei stall operators? We don't do that here", "I remembered I have a mini debate with someone, he said all eateries with no halal cert must display \"Non-Halal\" logo big-big so won't confuse Muslims.\nThen I said those Nasi lemak roadside must do the same right ? He straight quiet...", "The most important thing is to make sure that the restaurant or eating place has SPHM because the halal sig\nlooool, will leave this here:\nThe meat being smuggled included horse, kangaroo and even pork meat which were mixed and sold as halal certified beef.[1][2] The cartel bribed senior officials from a number of Malaysian government agencies.\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fake_halal_meat_scandal_in_Malaysia", "Based on cleanliness it self, most of this tepi jalan stalls / warongs would have failed miserably\nMost malaysia consider road side stall is clean. So what the problem here.\nIf you don't think it's clean enough, don't eat there.\nSame as if I don't convince some restaurant serve halal food I won't eat there.\nvery simple things", "Most Malaysians know road side stall is NOT clean. We just makan anyway xD", "aku ni selalu je makan dengan tikus besar, siap kencing dalam milo ais aku. biarkan tikus jangan termakan daging babi dan minum air liur anjing. /s", "Consider and proof are not the same thing bro. You could see fly flying around the kuih and yet you could consider as clean according to each person's standard of cleanness but it's a fact that fly flying around is not clean", "Yeah nah, I wouldn't want tyre particles in thr food I eat." ], [ "Someone didn't meet the kpi ka? This is clearly a marketing ploy to push for application and payment for a halal cert", "No it is the BMF gang way of sabotaging" ], [ "Just build a giant mosque and never come out if religion is the only thing that matters." ], [ "Pergi overseas boleh pulak masuk cafe Yg serve beer and wine and Makan lunch. Alasan Mcm Mcm. Mai balik Malaysia berjuang halal like end of the world" ], [ "Whats the big deal? if the restaurant never stated it was halal....whats the hooha?", "Because no chop halal means not islamic proven, according to kampung illiterates.", "No chop and yet they still go buy nasi lemak from all the mak cik pak cik stalls\nHypocrites", "Them : Boikot time", "Mind you its not just a 'kampung' thing, many urban Malays also think along these lines", "yesss many still blame kampung but the urban ones", "This is true, doesn't matter if its no pork no lard, no halal cert means no go", "To each his or her own, at the core of it if ada timbul rasa was-was and the store cannot put that to rest, then better if tak pergi.", "Malaysians go overboard with Halal. They also mistrust foreign Halal certs even if they are recognised by JAKIM.\nThere are also stories of Malaysians tourists refusing to even eat at halal restaurants abroad so they brought cooking appliances and ingredients with them. 💀" ], [ "Meanwhile in Sabah and Sarawak, eateries display “no pork, no lard” and muslims eat there freely with no issues.\nKeep it up my east Malaysia brothers and sisters. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻" ], [ "Tbh people who stay and eat there for the past 30 years knows about it. It's jointly operated by Cina + Malay across 2 generations. Cina do the money collection and orders while Malay do the food preparations.\nIt's ok until an outsider decided to think coexistence is an issue." ], [ "rumah nenek moyang kau xde sijil halal ke?" ], [ "It's kinda stupid. If you know it's not halal, why bother to go there in the first place?", "Cause melayu", "‘Nak MerASA’ their typical stupid response. The world must conform to their personal beliefs. Entitled. Because if it was a hindu, they see beef, they just move on and life goes on.", "Because its not really 'not halal!, just no halal cert. But seems like this one kind of does use non halal items, i might be wrong." ], [ "Facebook user, Abang Ameen\nDamn that Facebook page filled with \"cayanun xleh caya, no lard Muslim friendly nk tipu Muslim\" comments.\nI wonder if Marlboro got halal logo or not lol." ], [ "\"clean\" they say. While I'm looking at a bangla shredding cabbage at the road side for the burger stall that the majority frequent.", "Btw the term Bangla is considered derogatory", "even bangladeshi call themselves bangla", "They got the B-pass bro just like how blacks have N-pass", "Even you call yourself Beruk Anjing", "Oh? That's new to me. I met many bangla people and they all referring themselves as such. Bangla just sounds the same as cina, malay, Indian, dayak, whatever, to me.\n....... Unless u think by simply existing as that race is derogatory.", "No, it isn’t.", "Bangla is what they call themselves. Ask them." ], [ "Is this exclusively a malaysian problem? Muslims in other countries are able to dine at a restaurants with pork and alcohol so long as they order food free of pork.", "Haven't you heard? JAKIM > all. Other countries' halal certs are subservient to the almighty JAKIM Halal cert. Muslim-run restaurant in London? Definitely not Halal, got no JAKIM cert!" ], [ "Now, careful when viral. Always the \"is this halal\" guys cropping later" ], [ "Halal certification should be taken as a guarantee and most of the time it should be up to your judgement. I mean your Muslim neighbor/friend's kitchen aren't halal certified either. And chances they wouldn't pass the halal standard if judged according to the cert requirement." ], [ "Should also boycott malays restaurant that doesnt have halal certs as even malays restaurant use non halal indegrient like the Seri Petaling claypot rice seller.", "malays restaurant use non halal indegrient like the Seri Petaling claypot rice seller.\nThat couple are Indonesian. There are video from influencer the other day showing they been using that ingredient since selling at Chinese own restaurant where they open small stall inside it." ], [ "Might as well have a gold six-pointed star license for Non-halal business owners." ], [ "Why do we care so much mai god" ], [ "", "Oh wow, the Islamist PM is doing Islamist snake things? Who could've expected this??? 🤯😱" ], [ "Halal ni tak wajib. Terpulanglah kepada peniaga yang nak mohon. Bila dah dapat sijil halal, kena ikutlah peraturannya dan diberi kebenaran untuk pamer logo halal.\nPerbahasaan halal : sama ada gambar, logo halal atau \"Melayu Boleh Makan\", ayat suci, perkataan \"bismillah\" sekiranya peniaga pamerkan, juga perlu dapat sijil halal.\nBerita ni kiranya normal lah, pihak berkuasa cuma jawab pertanyaan..." ], [ "Oh please not this nonsense issue again" ], [ "One day a wish for a fully non halal state, free from halalness. Would be a paradise on earth." ], [ "Wonder if theyll ban places from using the phrase Muslim friendly. Been noticing that more on my last trip back home" ], [ "Guys while you all are gossiping, i wan to tell you guys that this desert shop punye cendol, luohanguo, and rojak is sedap. Ok bye\nPs: this shop is just behind the place i use to live" ], [ "Maybe they got applied for halal certification but thr process only take a long time only" ], [ "Halal cert is sirim for food." ], [ "Is there a database to check a places halal status?" ], [ "These updog establishments are a tricky one to have an opinion on", "updog\nEh, apatu \"updog\"?", "Nothing much bro. What’s up with you too?\nEh wait", "hehehehehe\nSee, this is why being multilingual is a win", "Ah so similar to like almost the whole of Malaysia then ya. Agreed" ], [ "people like to indulge idiots online istg, nasi kandar Babi post barely got any engagement until twitter butt hurt decided to get their tits twisted. idiots like these need to be ignored because they basked in any kind of interaction, positive or negative." ], [ "It shows that even Islamic enforcers are being controlled by group of religious mobs. What's next, Kedai sembelih babi kena tutup pasal tak ada sijil halal?" ], [ "Happens when you listen to sohai people on the internet." ] ]

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[ [ "let me know if it works well after you've built one, my uncle got some fresh produce that needs importing from thailand." ], [ "Life sized ones or toy ones?", "There's life sized ones?????", "Yea they're pretty good for launching nukes from so I'd assume they're illegal x", "There are hobbyist RC life-sized nuke-capable models?\n... I should change hobbies.", "Toy ones, i dont think a nuclear submarine is legal" ], [ "why would you get into legal trouble?", "There are air drone laws, so i thought there would be some about sea drones too" ], [ "There is some law for flying a drone but i couldn't find any for RC submarine, or ship for that matter", "Hmmm, okay" ], [ "Well what are your intentions with the submarine and what frequency are you using to control it?", "Idk about frequency yet because i haven't started working on it yet, I'm just wondering what the requirements are to legally build a remote control submarine.\nThe intention is to create a submarine large enough to contain an FPV camera in the interior that uses a headset, like ones on RC planes, i basically just wanna make an immersive submarine experience.", "For frequency if you're using basic 433Mhz you'll be fine, but if you're using long range LoRa you might want to check with MCMC.\nI don't know the legal requirements for submersibles, you might want to check with others.", "Okay thanks", "I guess if he is using a commercial sub then the controller should be certified my MCMC then no worries about freq." ], [ "Can radio waves transmit from land to underwater and vice versa?" ] ]

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[ [ "Jadi Awek yg dah Nikah has protectionism?" ] ]

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[ [ "How did it go from a light pole every few meters to nothing at all? Lmaoo", "Usual sight for rural population particularly those that borders forest area. Quite eerie isn't it? Especially when you have evening rain because all the water vapor will hang just above the road surface at night creating spooky ghost like apparition", "For added context (since I know that road even more than the back of my hand)...the stretch that has light poles besides it is actually a relatively newly rebuilt stretch of road, since the road was slightly diverted into a temporary alignment to the east of the road(hence there relatively wide cutting/clearance, while they are putting a bridge over the (also realigned) ELECTRIFIED DOUBLE RAIL tracks(the OP went through the aforementioned bridge at around 5 second from the start of the video)...so the light poles were installed as part of the rail electrification project, while previously, the whole road was dark (as usual with most rural state roads, especially those that has 3 digit numbers)with the exception around the junctions...\nTLDR: Thank god for KTM or the whole road is dark....check the Google street views along the roads that cross the KTM electrified tracks and you would see a few of these anomalies along those stretch rural roads....I don't know if the same would also apply to the roads also affected by expressway/dual carriageway construction..." ], [ "Err, isn't that technically the Hutan Percha-Gemencheh stretch (M131 Jalan Menggong) rather than the aforementioned Hutan Percha-Pulau Sebang-Alor Gajah (M10 Jalan Simpang Ampat)? Yeah, I think I saw someone doing 140 at that particular stretch....Considering you are turning left (while 95% of the road users usually turn right heading towards Segamat), I am presume you are a local (as in someone who is from the Mengggong-Hutan Percha or Keru area) is it?\nP/s: I myself is part of the 95% (going to and from Gemas) and next week I am using that road so thanks for the video since I am spotting a newly patchup pothole there at timestamp 2:00.", "Yeah, that one. I thought the end of the road was still in Hutan Percha. Also, I live in Johol, but I use the route to get to Melaka because of less traffic", "Huh, I wanted to comment that it would be better for you to turn right and heading toward Gemencheh in order to go to Johol from the junction rather than turning left and using the Ulu Yoh road,\nbut I forgot that Johol itself is rather spread out across a big area...and IIRC the Gemencheh-Johol stretch itself would be as dark as the road in the video above {and the relatively well lit route you pick meant that you will turning off the Kuala Pilah-Tampin main road just before the start of the most treacherously (and tiring especially if you are driving that Wira) bendy stretch that is Dangi-Senaling stretch}, so the route you have chosen is mostly good...\nP/s: The terminology of the road itself was confusing, not helped by the fact that MPAG (yes the local municipal council, not the state JKR) was at one point was the one that apparently maintained/signed the road as shown by the decrepit road name signs seemed to suggest.... It is technically still at Hutan Percha until the border, while the area at the N9 side is really not well defined since there really isn't a village (and thus Gemencheh, the name of the mukim for the area is used, with MPAG said name it Hutan Percha-Gemas road, even though while the plurality of the road user would used the road to at the very least stop would at Gemas, the junction is still at least 15km away from even the Gemas mukim border." ], [ "OP, for your safety, please use your r/kereta high beam to lit the whole road. Off high beam only when you see opposite car light.\nEdit: oh wait OP was using high beam. Why it’s not bright one", "That's literally high beam", "Yeah I was about to edit my comment. LOL I realised you used high beam but why the high beam macam not effective one", "Motorbike?", "A Wira, actually", "Maybe it's because of the camera but your high beam seems pretty low. How was it in real life?", "Exactly like this", "Is your right hand headlight functional? The beam seems to be heavy on the left hand side.", "Yeah, my mom thought the same too. I'm considering replacing the headlight after I repaint my car", "In most cases, you just need to replace the bulb. Depending on bulb type, it may cost under RM20 and can be done easily without service charge" ], [ "Bro please get a new set of headlights and adjust the beam properly. I cant even see the far side of the road with your high beam on. Its like aiming your flashlight at your feet while trekking through the forest.\nGet one of those Philips Vision Plus, probably around rm60 and you're good to go." ], [ "Bro post Fear to Fathom gameplay clip and think that we not gonna know smh xD" ], [ "ITS MIDNIGHT RACING TIME BEBE!" ], [ "Was waiting for a ghost to appear... So disappointed 😞", "Same. But I heard there are ghosts along this stretch" ], [ "I'd imagine the night sky view over there." ], [ "Yoru ni kakeru~" ] ]

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[ [ "The 3 most important factors, besides the product or service, for a tech startup are:\nFunding\nPeople (Employees, Co-Founders, Industry Networking)\nPublicity / Buzz / Hype\nAnd if you make it through the first few stages, I’ll add in Scalability.\nOnce you go outside the major cities, funding should be okay if your product / service is good and gains traction.\nThe people circle is where you will start struggling. To build something half decent, you will always need people, the best of the best aren’t going to be moving to KT to work. The same goes for #3, unless you have a one in a million product, you need #2 networking and then the media buzz to start building your profile into the late stage funding rounds.\nI’ve started 2 companies, one is running after 13 years even after I left and did relatively well while the other struggled (Covid factor). What I’ve learnt is that you need 3 + 2 or more variable factors to make it work.\nGood luck." ], [ "Premium addresses matter only in regulated sectors. Save every penny and work remotely till you can afford rent." ], [ "You mean just to get the company up and running? Or to build a viable bussiness?" ], [ "I built one of the largest IoT companies in India starting in 2013. Started from one room in a back alley with 2 developers. We excelled in marketing - gathering customer feedback and converting into a product.\nWhat you need is the following - 1 - a clear vision (where you want to go with your venture) 2 - a roadmap to achieve the vision (broken into short term milestones), and 3 - a do it now attitude to bring it to a closure. Start and finish, learn and repeat.\nLocation doesn’t matter these days so far your sales is always present in front of the customer. Be sales first, be revenue first. Everything else follows.", "We should following bro. Where are you located now? India or Malaysia?" ] ]

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[ [ "Don't question fadhlina, later she get mad and cry, then slam the table again.", "Really ? crybaby throw tantrum diva ? Didn’t know that. Any video or article on it? 🤣", "You never follow news? Solidarity week and Wee Ka Siong questioning her regarding the shortage of teachers in SJKC.\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9nMpKic4gs\nhttps://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2023/11/28/education-ministers-tone-surprised-me-says-dr-wee", "Haha yes was not following news. I just read she also cried when slammed after introducing Palestine Solidarity Week. https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2023/11/02/education-minister-tears-up-while-defending-palestine-solidarity-week https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2023/11/01/fadhlina-grilled-over-guidelines Nonsense . Nothing better to do get young students involved in global politics, war conflicts" ], [ "I usually don’t agree with mosquito party MCA but I agree on this. Why is this very important Education Ministry given to this first time newbie clueless minister Fadhlina ? She is minister because politically she is PKR Women chief ? Ministers should be appointed because of ability not political position", "She got appointed because she's loyal to anwar, not because of her ability. The same reason why she didn't get shuffled out.", "What a world we live in.", "We don't do that here. We want loyal macais, not smart macais", "Loyal macais might get you this, smart macais might get you assmin, life never lets you win." ], [ "Maths & Science in BM completely unless you plan to do public U all the way. Even then, anyone with a brain cell will choose to use English.\nThen the Malays wonder why they can't compete with non Malays when its comes to job finding.", "From what I've heard, some of the top public u are using English for stem nowadays lol", "i thought most public U uses english wtf", "Don't have standardized policy. That's the problem.", "I remember one of my interns type his university assignments and report all in BM which surprised me alot. I was like no wonder he was struggling when we told him to type work reports in english.", "Yeap, once they come out to the real world, its no longer controlled by the government.", "Wait, BM isn’t just English with different spelling? :26554:" ], [ "whichever language that helps kids do better in the subjects, just use it lah. so sick of this issue!", "While I agree with that sentiment, it's a known fact STEM graduates without English fundamental skills simply can't compete in the international level. If they can learn to translate the terms later on, why not just let them learn the subject in English in the first place, less time wasting. We have little use for BM STEM here, if there is, they just slide in some English terms in their sentences anyway.\nSure you can say they can thrive here in Malaysia, see how much research funds government pour into this field. You could also say money isn't everything but money is a huge motivation, it can solve many problems, the researchers ain't going to feed themselves with dreams.\nYou really need to think far enough, education isn't as simple as you think. A change of syllabus can have long term effects." ], [ "how many u-turns they want to make on this?" ], [ "I agree, hence why Maths and Science should be in BM, but Arts, physical education, history, morals and religion should be taught in English.", "Origin of species pun kena banned in BM, yet want to make BM the language for maths and science teaching? Lol", "Yes.", "Lovely" ], [ "Pasal ape trolly and kuda ni?" ], [ "My maths & science was in Malay, we coped with it although we didn't prefer it. As humans we adapted" ] ]

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[ [ "turn back to sst always a backwards way of doing things, the dumbest ever just to win a vote and populist voice, they can just reduce GST from 6% to a lower %, but promise voting (getting power) is more important than the future of a country" ], [ "well, dont want GST this is what you get really\ngovernment needs money to run (we arleady have not enough) so money has to come from somewhere", "But.. But... But... I thought some say can use Petronas money to settle problem in the country", "well most malaysian economic logic is terrible, and petronas wont be enough to solve our issues", "As if Petronas has a lot of money nowadays", "So where's all the oil money.", "oil & gas business is very capital intensive. petronas is seriously like magic already can provide so much dividends to malaysia.", "Stop using Petronas money for everything. The money belongs to the staff working" ], [ "lol, i remember when GST was first abolished and SST started, there was a post here showing the “savings” OP got for his food bill and it was something along the lines of a few cents. post was upvoted big time and everyone patted themselves on the back.\nin the end of they day, there are ever only 100 cents in a dollar. money has to come from somewhere." ], [ "GST was victim of politics by opposition then.. they made GST associated to ah jib gov bad doing when in reality it's good, better and fairer tax regime.\nTrust the politician to screw things up. So many of my friends said bagus hapus GST.. GST implemented all over the world.. if it's that bad it wouldn't last this long as an effective and fair tax collection method." ], [ "Concern trolling" ], [ "Yeap. The country got about 44 billion annually from gst. Sst only manage to get about 20 billion. So, we pretty much lost 24 billion annually after gst was removed. Most of our long term plans drafted during najib time was based on gst income.\nSo, the gov need to find ways to cover back that 20 billion loss.", "But shouldn't it's better better to increase SST or bring back GST than making new taxes that charge more that GST 6% ?", "GST is better because it almost prevent leaks, as the GST is pre-paid by the manufacturers. Now everyone from the manufacturers to wholesalers to retailers are incentivized to make sure the products reach and paid by the consumers.\nWhether the SST or GST charge more is a non-issue as tax rates are adjustable.", "Can you expand more on this?", "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value-added_tax", "You think changing taxes like switch off on the lights? Hahaha.\nThing is, when changing taxes, there will definitely be a big spike in inflation. And it would take years for things to be stable back. When we changed from gst to sst, things were not yet stable. And then covid hit, further create problem with inflation.\nIf gst is to be re introduced now, inflation will go woooosh up up up. Need to wait for things to stable down before changing back to gst. The gov already have the intention to do so, but waiting for the right time.", "But then doesn't rakyat paying more tax plus if they reintroduce back GST ? I meant buying from foreign shop seller already got you max 10% ??? Plus if at app they charge you GST than it's fking 16% tax ???\nI meant my calculations may off cause I'm not economy, accounting but that would be what in most rakyat mind that we paying more than what GST before ?", "It can end with either 2 ways\n1) they remove all these taxes and lump it all into gst.\n2) maintain these taxes and claim they manage to increase gov revenue due to good management.", "Usually, taxes on goods/services aren't charged twice. For example, local digital services would charge sst while digital services tax is for foreign service providers.\nThe argument that gst is more expensive than sst for consumers is the fact that gst is a multi-stage tax, while sst is only charged at manufacturing stage or consumption of goods/services.\nTax on LVG for online sellers is suggested because as per SST rules, imported items below minimal value of RM500 are exempted.\nAll in all, these new taxes and rates might seem like everything gets more expensive because of the tax. When in fact, the govt is just trying to cover all the loopholes left due to the SST tax regime.", "But when you look at the rate of inflation during the the year of GST introduction, there was actually deflation ffor that and the next year, only readjusting in 2017 before going negativr again when GST was pulled in 2018\nhttps://www.macrotrends.net/countries/MYS/malaysia/inflation-rate-cpi", "Inflation only takes account raw materials. They dont take processed/cooked food into their calculation. Raw materials did indeed went down as they are exampted from gst which is why you see a deflation pattern. But processed food like sardin, maggie, nuggets and the likes and also at restaurants we see a jump in inflation.\nWhich is why the famous quote by ahmad maslan if expensive cook at home. And his infamous nasi goreng tanpa gst.", "Generally inflation is calculated by using consumer price index, which does take into account processed foods generally purchased by an average household though.\nPerhaps goods at restaurants would not be taken into account, but if their raw materials were exempted from GST why would we see a jump?\nOfc the CPI is an average, which could impact different segments of the population differently. (ie. If generally m40 products go down in pricing equally to generally B40 products going up, you might still have a bad situation as those less able to pay are forced to pay more )", "Bringing back GST would be political suicide.", "Making new tax that is numerical higher than GST plus cut down on subsidy is not political suicide?", "Well, the name \"GST\" carries all sorts of negative connotations. Maybe they can just gall it \"VAT\" (same thing) and set it at 5%. Which is already lower than our neighbours.\nPlus, GST is broader as it covers most goods essentially. Though, in many jurisdictions, essentials would have a lower tax rate or are not taxed at all." ], [ "IMO, yes PH fucked up in 2018. The first PH govt Abolished GST which brought inflation and investors left due to 1MDB,GST abolish. It was a scary time for FDI. Had gst just been lowered, it coulda been better. Then Sheraton lah etc. Politicians win, rakyat lose." ], [ "what they say: gst to sst will make price cheaper\nwhat happen:\n<image>\nnow got new tax somemore. but you guys stay tuned for rafizi podcast when he will explain all this is a better way for malaysians since gst is considered regresif kind of tax system:26554:👌", "Same thing when they say implement GST will make the price cheaper.\nFool us once, shame on you, fool us twice shame on us. Fool us for the third time, guess we will never learn our lesson." ], [ "Uhm gst is included in everything is listed on the right , removing gst makes government lose income which means yeah gst take more than sst , but that doesn't mean its a good thing , if this is one of those post that want to imply sst tax us more than gst , it would work on certain party supporters maybe.", "The argument is GST makes taxes simple. Now the government has to whip up different taxation regimes to claw back revenue.", "Yep, it’s a much more consistent method to tax." ], [ "I mean you want jib jib and gst out at 2018 right?", "Well the reason why i want jibby out is cause how opposition that time said they can do better job but after PH took over under Tun M not long his reign fall now under PMX it seem like, mathematical us Rakyat paying more tax than before GST plus want to cut subsidy some more, haishh.." ], [ "Item too expensive = tax\nItem too cheap = tax\nItem too big = tax\nYou selling stuff? = Tax\nYou buying stuff? = Tax\nHello just use back GST and just have 1 tax amount for everything please, ini Banyak extra dei" ], [ "Malaysian doesn't know how blessed we are. Go to other country and see how much is their tax and how much they pay for petrol", "Yep. Our neighbours pay 10-11% in VAT.\nOur 5% GST dah cause people to naik angin.", "Yet the gomen need to subsidise this and that to keep voters happy", "Isn't that cause our RM suck ass? If you compare them directly" ], [ "should have remove all these tax, go ahead cut fuel subsidy instead.", "Er.... They are going to do that, i think next year they will unveil plan on who got fuel subsidy and who not so yea, next year got a lot of challenges", "Analysts \"expect\" subsidy cuts, rafizi said something about fuel subsidies which is very true. But it's all still speculation. We don't know whether the govt have enough balls for subsidy cuts yet, especially with the waning approval rate.\nImho, targeted subsidies are a logical approach. Especially for petroleum products, which is about 45b ringgit (more than 80% of expenditure on subsidies). How would they do it? Nobody knows. Is it necessary? Definitely." ], [ "And the so called best Chief Minister we ever had LGE increased our dependency on oil." ], [ "True but not entirely fair, cos this seems to imply that should GST be retained, the other taxes won’t exist. The only comparable one is GST vs the extra 2% hike in SST. Even so, we won’t know for sure that should Najib stayed as PM, the new taxes wouldn’t have been introduced, unless someone finds Dr Strange to show us a multiverse where Najib wasn’t voted out in 2018." ], [ "By the way here's another 100 B̶R̶I̶M̶ Madani gula gula for you guys. The kerajaan is always perihatin :29091::29091::29091::29091:", "Kennot claim oh", "Rich lo" ], [ "Even with all those taxes, GST still taxes us more as a whole", "Elaborate, please. Me dumb dumb no understand.", "Tax companies more, not consumer, BUT as always companies will push it to customer by increasing their price. We will see price increase for processed products. Raw materials do not get taxed.\nSo lets say a tin of sardine. We only see it as 1 tin. But in the eyes of gst, just that 1 tin consist of 3 things. Manufacturing the tin, printing it and finally the process of making the sardin. Companies normally buy these stuff from factories that produce them which is why the 3 will be taxed separately. Sst only tax the final product which is that 1 tin of sardin. If they employ a different company for transporting the goods, that also will be taxed under gst.\nThats why, when gst was introduced, we see processed food price increased alot.", "But in the eyes of gst, just that 1 tin consist of 3 things. Manufacturing the tin, printing it and finally the process of making the sardin. Companies normally buy these stuff from factories that produce them which is why the 3 will be taxed separately.\nUnder GST, manufacturers will get their GST money back as a rebate after selling the product. The purpose of GST is to reduce money laundering by monitoring each step of production.", "I remember hearing back then about how the government actually fucked this up by just pocketing the money and taking forever (or not at all) paying back the rebate. not sure how true it is tho.", "Not exactly true. It's just that only businesses with over rm500k yearly sales can claim. If you make more than that and the input gst you pay is more than output gst you receive, then you can claim refund on the difference.b", "no i'm pretty sure it wasnt that like there was a bunch of headlines about how the government had several billions worth of GST money they were supposed to pay back but didn't\nEDIT : I did some googling and found it\nhttps://theedgemalaysia.com/article/customs-delayed-gst-refund-process-bn-govt-lacked-money", "Ah my bad, i guess you're talking about the PAC report on the GST refund delays. According to GST act, gst collections are supposed to be deposited into a trust account first to accommodate refunds. Then only can it be transferred into revenue account.\nBut what happened was, it was directly deposited into govt's consolidated revenue account which caused delay to refund claims. Iirc, the tax arrears was settled in 2020.", "If that thing is to create the finished product. Like sardine tin for example, every gst paid to create the sardine and the souce will be claimed back.\nIts like this. Sardin sdn bhd produce the sardin in tin. They only manufacture the sardin and the sauce. So, from process A to B to create the sardin and souce if any gst is paid, they can claim back. BUT, the tin they buy from Ah Tin sdn Bhd. And then sent it to print at Abu print Sdn Bhd. The tin and print is not part of making the sardin and souce, so it is considered as seperate. So cant claim.", "Ah Tin and Abu Print can claim from govt when they sell to Sardin SB. Then Sardin SB can claim when they sell to shops.", "Yes, but sardin sdn bhd cant claim the gst they paid when they bought from ah tin and abu print. Ah tin and abu print do not pay gst because they are sellers. Only buyer pay gst. The gst paid by sardin sdn bhd to ah tin and abu print will be considered as cost for sardin sdn bhd and will be included in the final price of their finished product. And customer will also pay gst when they buy the tinned sardin produced by sardin sdn bhd.\nThis is the reason processed food price went up alot when gst was introduced.", "That's totally wrong. Of course the GST paid by sardin sdb bhd for the tin and the print could be claimed. All GST paid as part of company spending could be claimed. Even if they paid GST for parking, that could be claimed.", "But why does even after SST is bring back the goods still retain their GST price? And now increase abit in name of had too cause now got SST?? If the price goods now isn't paid to gov, who got the money?", "Bro, you just born yesterday? Once price goes up, they wont go down. Simple economics, if with that price people still buy, why want to reduce it. The only thing that can affect price is supply and demand. If supply is high, demand low = price go down. Supply low, demand high = price go up. Google supply demand graph and you will see more clearly how prices move.\nIn other words, to force a company to reduce their price is to stop buying the product.", "So meaning companies got the exyra cash now?????!! Damm the rich get richer the poor get fucked", "Every company motto is reduce cost, maximize profit. That is the foundation of every business. In simple terms, to get as much money as they can from you at their lowest expense.", "A lot of businesses work like this:\nwe increase the price and see if there's any drop in revenue\nif revenue drop we drop back the prices\nif revenue increase then we keep the new price. Less work for more money.\nAll this happens without govt intervention.", "How so ?", "Because GST taxes everything we consume. Out of all those other taxes, only SST has the biggest scope and even then it’s not as big.\nBased on budget 2024, the expected increase from all those tax measures is only about 4b plus. Still way off to bridge the huge gap that GST has over SST." ], [ "Rich getting richer, poor getting poorer\nRich = gomen\nPoor = rakyat", "Govt doesn't get rich dude. It's your politicians. Money that goes into your politicians pocket is not to the govt. Malaysia wouldnt be still a shit hole if the govt has money" ], [ "Dah la2 rasua ke corrupt ke government mmg mkn duit bnyk dripde rkyr Msia\nskrg nk cari scheme baru untuk cover they azz for notorious reasons je, bet2l kite mmg dept tpi cerita x baru. Semkin lme dept ni semkin teruk x recover pun" ], [ "PAS should've lead. they probably were confident enough in their majority that they would not have as terrible of an effect if they implement gst" ], [ "As a tax enthusiast, yes, gov always find way to find money" ], [ "True" ], [ "Gst for the win" ], [ "UBAH! INI KALI LAH!" ] ]

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[ [ "Written by Khairy Jamaluddin\nDidn't realize that Kelantan is a beacon of economic progress.", "Didnt realize people can't criticize the government .", "What a reacharound lol.\nHe can criticize the government, at the same time I can criticize his criticism of the government. I'm not asking the Gestapo to arrest Khairy, chill out." ], [ "U know how before tsunami, sea water is pulled out to sea... Basically all common sense, iq and rationale all kena pull out to sea and a tsunami of stupidity came back and hit them...." ] ]

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[ [ "Legit. But they are middle people, not direct. Which means, they take a certain percentage from what you donate and give the rest to what organization hired them. That percentage is the problem. Some years back it became an issue. Those companies takes high percentage of the donation.\nYou give rm10, maybe rm1-2 actually goes to the organization." ], [ "If you want to donate, check out their website and donate directly to them." ], [ "Those MLM agents must be making a killing or the public is still this naive if they're more of them! Don't ever layan if they ask for your card details, they can easily take more than what's promised. If you have a busy life, you won't realise they've been siphoning you for years, going by some Google reviews.\nIf you call them to cancel, they'll make life difficult or manipulate you into a 'discount donation' to get you to stay on. Some even rage or beg to guilt trip you (\"Why did you agree to the plan then?\") The only way is to quietly change your card although it's a hassle.\nWe're not advising against donating to charity. Just not through middlemen. But if you really want to check how legit a charity is, look for the most recent financial statement or a proper customer careline instead of one general email (both of which I did not find with NCSM). Some NGO's donations might not even be tax claimable, despite what the agents say." ], [ "Anyone can rent a spot at the mall.\nAnyone can create a website too. Check for the registered company and license, and their representatives/ physical location too.\nFor bank-in, should go into a registered company account etc." ] ]

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[ [ "Minor announcements:\nmonyet.cc: Check out our Malaysian Lemmy community! (why?)\nSPM Megathread: Updated 2022 with SPM resources such as trial papers, modules, notes and more!\nMental health wiki: A list of mental health services in Malaysia\nI am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns." ], [ "I wish I have the brain power to hack a flight company's DBMS and give myself unlimited free flights.\nI don't even want glamorous vacations, I just want to visit my cats in Kedah often." ], [ "Where can I get a first aid kit that I could just keep inside my backpack and bring with me wherever I go?" ], [ "Surprise surprise, CIMB Clicks is down.. again! Anyone here from the octopus bank in the know why the hell the system is so shitty?\nEdit: this time it’s worse it seems. Can’t transfer money out, can’t use debit card, can’t even withdraw cash using ATM machine. What the hell happened CIMB?", "At time of writing, the website is working fine for me. But!\nit's usually down around midnight. I assumed it's some sort of system maintenance\nyour credit card entries tend to \"disappear\" up until around 6am or so", "Its cuti so, some big brain probably turned off the server, and no one check because everyone balik kampung already?", "Weirdest thing to me is not a single coverage by any news/tech portal anywhere. Even CIMB themselves didn’t make a mention..", "yeah and still cannot login even today" ], [ "alor star, you guys are alright. next stop n9" ], [ "Do you have recommendations for skin specialist, except Dr Ting clinic in KL?\nI have horrible hormonal acne, and I’d like to be treated by skin specialist who can prescript Accutane." ], [ "anyone know how or where do i get rid of engine oil? sent car to SC and they give the leftover bottle", "i thought they will dispose them all?" ], [ "Is there any r-rated kuala lumpur reddit thread?", "Y'know, for a long time I feel that there ought to be a NSFW Malaysia sub, to create a safe space for people to talk about sex.\nBut I'm sure such a sub would soon devolve into people posting revenge porn, so...", "There are already Malay tudung 3gp subreddits, so ....", "i might be blind but i dont see any sources here", "Why would I link it and make Dosa kering here LOL", "chill jakim" ], [ "Any recommendation for a good brand water heater? The current one that we use is not hot enough" ], [ "Hey guys!\nI'm living in KL for the next 5 weeks (so far I love it) and the food is really great! Also, the people are so friendly and warm (just like the climate 😅).\nI am looking for high protein meals (chicken/beef) but aren't super high in calories. I live in Bukit Bintang. If you have any tips on either Grab Restaurants or restaurants in my vicinity please write them down here! 🙏\nThanks guys!", "Since you’re in Bukit Bintang I think you can get Shawarmas there. Just ask for extra chicken." ], [ "<image>\nMUST BUY!!!! You save exactly 0 cents", "put them in the chiller and you can sell it for about double the price" ], [ "Is Godzilla -1 not coming out here?", "usually 1/2 year wait for japanese movie" ], [ "A bit of a vent.\nDoes anyone here don't like to return home? For example now I'm living in college dorms and attending Uni, but everytime the holiday seasons come my mom wants me to go back home. I really don't feel like going back home for some reason it just feels tiring and unnecessary. I just want my peace and quiet but if I go home with my family it's a lot of blabbering and I really don't wanna talk to anyone. However I do feel obligated to go home and see my moms face to get berkat or whatever. Maybe I'm taking this family thing for granted?\nMy home life is not bad, it's quite normal actually. But I don't feel that sense of wanting to balik kampung...\nI feel like I'm one of the rare cases because most people I know always go balik kampung when there is cuti.\nConclusion: I'm probably burnt out af from studies and I don't really wanna interact with anyone...", "You really are a rare case. Back when I was in asrama/kolej most of the ones who stayed back couldn’t afford to go home. I did it a coupla times, and it was fun having the whole dang school/uni to yourself(and three other ppl), but home’s better overall.\nIf your parents are happy with just a call, sure, stay back. If not, I personally think the discontent will eat away at you, whether you realize it or not.", "yeah you are not alone and yes you are taking things for granted. its the least you can do for your mum.", "Nah it's okay, some people go through that stage, I've been there as well, nowadays I wish to see them more rather than feeling obligated doing so. Perhaps one day you will as well." ], [ "get invited to one of those task groups, usually i just block and move on, but i remembered not long ago someone here say they just took the money before they left, so i was like why not. completed a few small tasks and got rm15 transferred to me. LMAO.\nthe task came in groups of 3, you have to complete the set to get rm15 at the end. and the 2nd one ends with those \"transfer money to us and get cashback plus refund!\" i was like sure, this is probably where I called it quit. but then i ignored it and kept doing the free task, and to my surprise they transferred another 15 lmao... just gonna keep going until they get sick of me and kick me out. here i am sipping my free starbucks doing basically nothing.\nbefore some moral jackass comes and comments that they are basically just distributing victims money, hey, i am not the one scamming okay? take it to the four eye frog jackass doin nothing in the cabinet.", "LMAO indeed if they were transferring to you from any of their mule accounts they are controlling, did you realise to a certain extent that you are 'cuci'-ing their illegal proceeds?\nWell of course, unless PDRM bothers with tracking down every single money trail coming out from the mule account rather than only shutting down mule accounts arising from suspicious incoming transaction, I guess you can enjoy sipping your Starbuck for now.\nEdit: oops, just realise your last paragraph after commenting, moral or not, if the fund is tracked, it's criminal. Try using that excuse in your defence lol.", "Why don't you go and bust their operation genius? oh wait. you are just another keyboard warrior 🥱" ], [ "Anyone here into the local Pokemon TCG scene? I've started collecting card but I also kinda wanna build decks and play with other people too.", "There's a shop in damansara jaya which is your best bet. Cards and hobbies also can but the dj shop is the best afaik." ], [ "Was watching RLL video and then see this sus illlusion\n<image>\nI thought I just shared it here then ahahhahahahahaha" ], [ "Ridiculous, I've bought an item thru Lazada and somehow it's outsourced to Flash Express, and now it's stuck at Klang for some reason.\nTried calling Flash, no one angkat, so I've already called Lazada, they at least angkat and will look into the matter & push delivery.\nBut anyway, anyone here have the same Flash Express story?" ], [ "Is it me or too many Johor people are a bit too proud of them being from Johor?", "Mana ada. I’m from Johor and extremely humble. Some even say the humblest even.", "Yea but to be fair, male Malay Johoreans are hot tho", "Johor and Kelantan specifically.\nThey're not as intelligent and humble compared to us Penangites.", "I am johorean. Don't put as in the same basket as kelantanese.", "Oh please, you guys are just Kelantanese that speaks proper Malay 😂", "Way different. We are not extremist muslim like them. More progressive.", "", "Apa salah sambal kicap. It is the best for fried banana, tofu and tempe", "Found the johorian", "Half johor. The other half is Melaka so don’t half mess with me" ], [ "What would you bring to a sick father of a friend? A fruit basket?", "in hospital? powerbank and kain pelikat if malay", "That's a nice gesture. Should be okay. Can ask your friend if the dad has any fruits preference too" ], [ "Yeah yeah. It's comic fiesta day isnt it. Go have some fucking fun.\nImagine being on a holiday and you see others have some fun but you can't do anything and stuck at home.\nThe funniest thing I've ever heard from this friday is imam said spend our good times on holidays with family with activities. I BARELY have an activity here.\nLook at people doing activities, I hate them for having fun. I wanna go to WORK. I wanna have mountain of paperwork slammed on my table and get told to finish it in 2 hours.\nI wanna get called in by boss and get berated. I wanna punch a fax machine. That kind of work.", "You don't want to go to Comic Fiesta because you hate them for having fun.\nI can't go to CF because good god, the line last year was atrociously long, and I have to go back in the same line that morning after one short toilet break outside the con?! I'm not risking this year til they have sort everything out in '24.\nI'm staying back just to have a quiet weekend with some games I just bought on Steam during the winter sale.", "The lime wasn't too bad for me. Like 8 onwards I've been seeing posts of doom and gloom but when I reached there around 11 I was able to walk right in.", "What about lunch breaks?\nDo you have to go through same line again after eating outside the con?", "if i want the merch ill contact their social and ask if they can do postage. most of them does", "Thanks, but I'm not a merch guy. Only reason I go there is to find out any studios or art schools that provide either jobs or animation courses, as well as meeting with some talents setting up booth there.", "Line is just as long as last year, to the point I think CF should look into renting some high tech entrance technology to make the entry more bearable.\nPlus, no tickets selling on the spot is a bit of a downer for me who originally couldn't care less about this year's CF, as one of my favourite HK comic artists announced that they're gonna be at CF just four days before the event. (Not that it matters much, as I didn't care too much about not being able to get into CF anyway. Plus, just learned one of my relatives passed away recently and I'll be paying my respects tomorrow.)", "Thanks for replying!!\nHow about going out for toilet breaks? The toilets in the cons last year were just ridiculously small & crowded so I had to out elsewhere. When I tried getting getting in through one of the exit, volunteer told me to go the same long line as I was in been that morning, even with a ticket visibly on my wrist. I gave up, at least went to the artist alley, then cabut to have lunch. Half a day wasted.\nSorry for long rant, but do you have the same issue with going outside for lunch or toilet and getting in this year?", "Unfortunately, like I said, I can't even get a ticket at Kinokuniya today (hence merely my opinion on the long line), so sorry pal, you gonna have to ask someone else of their impressions this year.\nBut that said, based on the same long line today (the crew is lucky that there's no rain during the initial 2 hours of the event opening) 50/50 it might be the same issues this time around.", "What's stopping you? 👁️👄👁️", "Being in Kuantan + not like we have any plans on holiday anyway + self imposed \"curfew\"", "What, no jobs in Kuantan? 👁️👄👁️" ], [ "On the KTM now. Sorry but have to ask why the windows are all cracked? Otherwise the infrastructure in KL is exceptional.", "As those KTM train have routes that go through kampung school, it's possible there are kids who throw rocks at the ktm for fun.\nNot really hazardous tho cause the panel is more than one layer, only the outer layer is cracked.\nStill not a great look through, and its something that the KTMB could've done better with. It's been there for a very long time, and KTMB has no interest in fixing them.", "why fix when the next time them kids feel bored it gets broken again. should go after the perpetrators or their parents first." ], [ "How strict are Malaysian drink driving laws compared to other countries?" ], [ "I don't want to be those annoying neighbour who prohibit student rental; but damn they are testing my patience. Hard to sleep when they are still making noises at 2-3 am, also they love to rev their motorcycle to high heaven even when they are just idling." ], [ "Oi Chow Kon Yeow it was meant to be a 24 hours disruption, 19th December 4pm until now. You're about 3 days off.\nAt least I could have bought more if it wasn't for your wrongful estimation, I drink 15 litres of water a day leh brother." ], [ "P driver here, just now when parking i accidentally hit front of car into a curb when parking, made a god awful fucking crash noise that made me think my whole bumper was destroyed. When I check, my car was...fine? Looked fine, tyres looked fine too, should i be worried?\nEdit: Just remembered, just now also got one uncle next to me outside his car and I don't think he really noticed there was any loud noise? After I stopped I saw him and he looked pretty unbothered lol. Ahhhhh but as a P driver I'm pretty anxious because why tf does hitting a curb at parking speed cause such a loud crash noise😭", "bumper is somewhat flexible, it'll bounce back to original shape if it's not too bad, check for scrapped paints if you're trying to find out where you hit", "oh, i think there was some scraped paint at the lower part of the bumper. this is so new to me haha", "The clip holding your bumper might snap though, aad that is unfixable unless you use those ugly DIY clip\nDon't worry though because bumper is not expensive part. You can replace whole thing without breaking your bank.", "Probably it's just your underbody scraping the curb. The bumper is fibreglass anyways - you might have \"dented\" it while scraping the curb but it flexed back to its original form.\nNo worries if everything looks fine.", "honestly i had no idea it could flex back into its shape. I've always assumed it couldn't since i do see some neighbours with a fucked up bumper", "It all depends on how hard the bumper took a hit, the angle etc. Try and gently press against it the next time you're at your car - it's quite flexible especially near the edges", "Is the car bumper rubber?\nProbably nothing happened except for screws", "uh, I don't think so. It's an old 2010 proton saga." ], [ "So angry. So so angry.\nNo, I won't run into traffic. I will stay alive to vote for the worst candidates possible.\nY'all deserve this.\nWolololololo~" ], [ "are selangor smart bus, grab & maxim active today?" ] ]

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[ [ "\"Anwar was referring to an incident involving a preacher who reportedly misinterpreted Anwar’s statement regarding Surah Al-Kahfi of the Quran and the seven “Ashabul Kahfi” (men of the cave) that he mentioned during the Prime Minister’s Department monthly gathering last week.\"\nDear Anwar, perhaps you should have thought carefully before bringing religion into politics.", "PMX: I can do it, but you cannot." ], [ "Macam ni PMX have to tell once a week kut" ], [ "dude...u're the one that started it as well..well maybe not started it but part of it" ], [ "Dude, that's our jobs, what else we can do and pay the bills ? Our profession is based on decades of cultivation and empowerment of the government to spread hatreds. What else do we do if not stir shits up ?\nYour predecessors wrote and approve those cheques worth of billions, remember ? C'mon...don't be shy, my dude, our man. If you disagree, simply terminate those funding from the public/tax payers money." ] ]

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[ [ "Their food sucked." ], [ "Where am I going to bring my very real not imagined amoi for dating now?", "Mookata.\nIts the in thing within amoi circle.", "My gf says ariga.. thank you. She says thank you.\n<image>" ], [ "Why?", "Debt spinning out of control?\nTowering costs of overhead?\nElevated risk of safety incident?\nIssue revolves around its business model?", "r/angryupvote", "Didn’t know you were a father of four", "How do you sleep at night, knowing you made this pun?", "I thought it’s another corruption case after the ilham tower.", "Based on FMT's news article: ownership of the KL Tower was sold from Telekom Malaysia to Hydroshoppe. Prior to the sale, TM supposedlly promised the restaurant that they will be granted a 3 year extension to thier lease (expiring 30 June 2023). However after the sale Hydroshoppe told the restaurant that the lease will not be extended, and that the restaurant must vacate by the end of the year. Restaurant proceeded to sued for the invalidation of the lease, whilst Hydroshoppe counter-sued for the restaurant to vacate the premises.", "No atmosphere." ] ]

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[ [ "Even Dubai allows alcohol consumption in private and licensed public places. While others move forward, we're moving backwards.", "Dubai as an orgasm material for the majority here is outdated.\nNow they want to be the Saudis." ], [ "Alcohol is meant for non Muslims. A blanket ban on alcohol is an insecure move.\nThis is like me forcing my family members to be vegans because I am a vegan.", "Sorry to be pedantic, but the actual simile is your family forcing you to be vegans because they're vegans.\nFits well with the majority + tuan rumah theme.", "your family forcing you to be vegans because they're vegans and have been systematically brainwashed into being vegans from birth by their parents but also think seeing you enjoying meat will somehow turn them into meat lovers." ], [ "Talking business to PAS is like teaching your dog how to do advanced calculus. It will never ever work :26554:", "sir/madam, don't insult dogs please.", "Dogs aren't as stupid", "dogs are holy, don't compare with those humans" ], [ "That's a more logical way to think besides the outright banning.", "It is, someone apparently is aware of prohibition era in USA." ], [ "Guys calm down. Its pas. When did they ever make sense? This is just to incite reaction and stay relevant." ] ]

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[ [ "Holy shit that's nearly half a billion.\nWe sure do love our chickens.", "It’s the most common or affordable meat in Malaysia. Plus it’s subsidised.\nPagi makan nasi lemak ayam goreng, nasi kandar kari ayam tengah hari, makan malam grilled chicken chop, last last lewat malam maggi ayam goreng mamak." ], [ "but its too late, what they did already caused the chicken prices to go up. food vendors and operators already mark up their food kawkaw, and will not reduce no matter chicken price come down or not. consumers suffer lo", "Consumers can force the market by reduce or stop patronising the eateries.\nCook at home if it is too expensive.\nEither save time eating out because of too busy; or save money cook at home because eating out is too expensive.", "raw food usually not that expensive.\nit is eating outside that is expensive, I dont know why people keep complaining food price towards farmers only but completely ignore restaurant is the one that is most cut throat sector.", "Price of chicken have already dropped significantly (rm15.99 to rm8.99?) but food prices never adjust downwards", "exactly. should boikot those blood suckers" ], [ "I've not seen anyone actually pay their MyCC fine. Have you?" ], [ "Evidence 101 of a cartel in our chicken industry." ], [ "" ], [ "And who gets all these millions? The people who spent it on the chickens or the chickens in the coop?" ], [ "Yang ni monopoli kuat takda pulak korang nak bising.\nTNGO monopoli, fuyo reaction.\nSyed Mokhtar Al Bukahri…..macam-macam tomahan.", "Erm, aku rasa ko x faham maksub monopoli.", "Kau ingat aku bodoh ke!? Time aku kecik aku banyak kali menang monopoli tau. Jangan cabar aku!" ], [ "\"boss, bole kawtim tak?\"" ] ]

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[ [ "Russia killed 43 Malaysians by shooting down MH17.\nIsrael killed 0 Malaysians by shooting down...nada.\nYet Malaysians sukak jilat buntut Putin - go figure.", "Ya.\nBecause Russia got muslims, ma. Mainly Chechens & Ingush peoples. Also a bit from Central Asia.", "Not only that, plenty of those morons would support Russia in the Russo-Ukrainian War because Zelensky is Jew therefore he is seen as a proxy of the West and the Jewry." ], [ "Screencap of the article\n<image>" ] ]

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[ [ "Never thought an IT vendor can go out of business in this digital age, but here we are" ], [ "They were one of our vendors at my workplace. The sudden news was quite shocking. Kesian the staff that have to deal with this during the holiday season somemore." ], [ "isn't this company notorious for working their employees to the bones? i remember reading their Glassdoor review and it was... not good to say the least.\ni remember reading that that company tends to bind their bonus payout to the employees continued service to the company (IIRC, it was 6 months where you could not resign unless you forfeit your bonus), and the company tend to force their employees to sign an ever expanding list of non-compete clauses preventing them for working for other companies after leaving that one.\nthe first and last time i went there for an interview at 8pm or 9pm ish (yes, you read that right, PM), there were still a lot of employees there working at that hour.", "Completely agree. Once upon a time i interviewed there at 7pm. I asked the interviewer why no one was going home cause it's after office hours. He said they are all waiting for company dinner. Like.... Why would they need to eat dinner in the company...wtf.. Run far far" ], [ "¿What happened?", "Here you lazy shit\n“inadequate handover of records and information by the previous management”", "That’s preliminary corporate speak. I will wait a bit more for truths to come out.", "🤷 doesnt change the truth" ], [ "Dengar nama pun dah red flag. Standard china men company." ], [ "Lowkey shocking cause I intern at Fusionex b4 during my diploma in 2020." ], [ "Went there for a Business Analyst role interview back in mid 2010s. Had a successfull interview with the VP but the second interview was kinda weird. The interviewer was very rude. I walked out, the HR called back. I said I have lost interest.\nOne week later, I got a job with a salary doubled the one i asked in Fusionex. Weeks later, I met some ex-staffs, and they shared that the environment in Fusinex is toxic.\nif you are reading this, dont give up if you got rejected in countless interviews, keep improving and dont stop trying." ] ]

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[ [ "If you're looking for help in getting someone admitted into a hospital for psychological related issues, the hospitals in Malaysia do have policies on involuntary admission for patients with mental disorders.\nI'd suggest making a direct call to the nearest hospital for specific advice.", "They said we needed a referral letter. We tried calling a mental hospital but no answer.", "Ah, it does seem like a referral letter (recommendation) from a qualified medical practitioner is needed if one is making an application for involuntary admission.\nDo you have any way of obtaining one?\nAlternatively, do you have the option of bringing your relative in question to a hospital? If you do, you could try bringing them to a hospital in person, and if you're bringing them to the emergency department, I'd assume the hospital can treat this as a normal emergency case and proceed accordingly (including assessing the need to have the patient admitted to the hospital).", "How about voluntary admission?\nWe called the main hospital in Sabah and they said they're just going to talk him down and send him home 💀", "Voluntary admission means that, if the patient is deemed to be required for admission, the patient himself can make the decision, and give consent, to be admitted to the hospital - i.e. the patient is an adult and in a mental state where he is suitable to make decision and give consent.\nDoesn't mean that he will certainly be admitted to the hospital, though. The recommendation and decision for admission is on the medical officer who assesses the patient, and the recommendation will only be made if the patient meets the conditions where hospitalisation is needed.\nAs far as I'm aware, the doctor can only make the decision to recommend hospitalisation after they have seen the patient in person. So it'd be quite surprising if the doctor is deciding to refuse admitting a patient before seeing the person. Again, not all psychiatric patients or mental health cases will end up being hospitalised. But the decision to admit or not will be after the doctor has seen the patient and made the necessary assessment.\nSo the best bet for you is to bring your relative to the hospital and get seen by a doctor in person (whether it is through the normal procedure or as an emergency). If you're not an immediate family member, you'll need to have one of the immediate family members with you when you're at the hospital - they'll be the person to give consent to the treatment.\nHope this helps!" ], [ "999 for any emergency. Need to describe how he self harm to call operator", "Yeah. My family had this case once. We called 999 and a police patrol came to assess the situation. They will then call the relevant parties to give aid while they try to diffuse the situation" ], [ "Hi. I am a Sabahan under treatment at Hospital Mesra Bukit Padang. Usually when I relapse (suicidal) I come straight to the \"klinik psikiatri\". This works if you go during the day (8 am - 5 pm). They will have you see a doctor and they will consult the patient and see if they need to be hospitalized. If all else fails, just go to a hospital and go straight to the emergency section of the hospital. They will have a psychiatrist evaluate their condition. I once overdosed on my medication and went to the ER." ] ]

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[ [ "Malaysian drivers are either really slow to a point they lack situational awareness like drifting in/out of lanes, hogging the middle lane on highways or drive really fast.\nSurprisingly in Indonesia and Thailand (Jakarta and Bangkok specifically) traffic is a nightmare but drivers are well aware of where there are on the roads and the surroundings.\nIn Europe and the US drivers drive fast at times, but they are more considerate. One notable difference is when switching lanes, you give your signal and magically an empty space will appear. You don't have to force your way to change lanes.\nAdditonally, Malaysian roads are poorly designed - you get highways with off ramps that criss-cross multiple lanes, together with lanes that change direction at the last minute - all causing drivers to potentially miss their exits etc." ], [ "Don’t kid yourselves about Malaysians being the same as the average. Malaysians are one of the most intolerant,unaware, dangerous people that I’ve had the misfortune to share the road with", "Hmm I’m inclined to be biased and say that you’re correct just based on my experiences on the road, but if I look more closely I realize I actually don’t know the answer 😅" ], [ "I've been to Bangkok and they're better. I've been to Jakarta and Bandung and they're worse. But that's pretty much it. Would a Thai driver in Chiangmai or Siang Reap be worse? I don't know. Would Aceh or Kalimantan driver be better? I don't know either. Heck, we can say Penang and Johor drivers are different than other states." ], [ "Based on my experience from a number of European, Australian and Southeast/East Asian regions, I can safely say that on average, Malaysian drivers are generally worse than average.\nSure, there are going to be bad eggs anywhere, and perhaps the poor enforcement and the corruption in the way driver's licenses are issued (I'm sure this is the case elsewhere as well) also lets a lot of under-qualified drivers slip through the cracks, but for the most part, what I've seen on local roads here include (but are not limited to):\nPoor situational awareness and alertness towards other vehicles/pedestrians around them\nInability to stick within their own lane\nAllergy to signals/turn indicators, and cutting/turning without warning, sometimes from the wrong lane\nPeople can't seem to brain roundabouts\nNot understanding right of way in a junction (this is especially common)\nThe yellow light at traffic lights being a prompt to speed up\nSpeeding in places you really shouldn't (and yes, that includes housing areas)\nLane-hogging, double parking and just parking really poorly to the inconvenience of others in general\nTailgating, even in heavy traffic\nIllegal turns and driving against the flow of traffic just for a shortcut\nBeing easily triggered by the horn\nI know these issues aren't exclusive to Malaysia, but I feel like the occur more here than other places I've been to. Even in places where traffic conditions are considerably worse, I find that drivers in places like Indonesia or Vietnam are a lot more courteous and understanding - and even the horn is used in a more utilitarian fashion.\nCould just be observer bias though, since I spend most of my time here." ], [ "I've lived at and driven in Singapore, UK, USA, Australia & Canada. Malaysian drivers here are crazy especially on highways. No one abides rules and no road sense courtesy. Makes me want to import a Hummer here." ], [ "Where you guys go to have better drivers than Malaysians? Here I thought Malaysian drives like Germans, with some idiots in-between." ] ]

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[ [ "Report to MCMC" ], [ "Yeah it's scam penah dapat tak tolak pun block je jangan layan", "okok" ], [ "This is predatory subscription practice. You should report to MCMC about this." ], [ "OTP scam. By replying, you may send OTP to them instead", "How would that work?", "There are a few types of OTP, which differs for other countries. One that sends you number, send you link to click or requires you to reply. As long as they can catch one of the reply from your end and convert it into an authorisation message, they can bypass authentication process", "still not sure how it would work but since a lot of people have said the telco can cancel subs, I'll keep it in mind and use that option." ], [ "It happens when you click on some ads on a website\nThen it automatically loads up a subscription,\nThe subscriptions is actually legit\nCall your Telco and ask them to disable all past and future subscription" ], [ "depends. if its taking your money like you prepaid sim or bank report it. if no then block. had uncle that subscribe to gay chat app service and panicking why his prepaid balance is being deducted weekly." ], [ "Just call maxis and ask them to cancel" ], [ "During the Sony Ericson era. This very common. They auto sub from somewhere then potong your credit.\nUsually send STOP ALL can unsub" ], [ "More like a spam , I just block those" ], [ "You cannot ignore the sms, they will deduct rm3 every week/month from your maxis bill. Call maxis up immediatly to unsubscribe.\nI ignored them thought if i sms back to stop, then they will charge my sms. Buy then i saw the maxis bill, they charged me every month! Called up maxis, maxis operator told me i had to unsubacribe or they keep charging. Maxis operated unsubscribed for me. I complained saying i never subacribed in the 1st place, they say i must have clicked somewhere. Im thinking they might be Maxis trying to earn extra from us.", "damn okok" ] ]

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[ [ "Malaysia truly Asia was a good tagline, but we treat (white) foreigners way better than our own countrymen. We bend over backwards to accommodate some guests, but can’t even extend the same courtesy to our neighbours.", "", "Malaysians fellating every mid white guy that decides to be a vlogger in Malaysia intensifies", "Korean food bloggers also get fellated pretty hard", "Then incoming, ‘mat salleh dok msia 2 hari pun bOleH caKaP baHaSA, tapi bangsa C masih tak tahu ckp’ /s", "It's OK bro...the whitey said apa khabar...auto men and women jizzed", "So are you \"not like the others\" or how good is your sloppy toppy?", "Yet another guy surprised that money makes people compromise with things they'd rather not deal with....\nEver wonder why your boss pays you a salary?\nThe answer may shock you.", "I sense an irony in the Force lol.\nIt sounds like a million bosses paying their employees that they would rather not know too well. lol.", "Yup. I don't remember which asian country, but they tried to dispute the tagline and if we still as it is we probably gonna lose the tagline", "we treat (white) foreigners way better than our own countrymen.\nAs a white guy, press X to doubt. Million things you can do legally that I never will. And that includes things like opening a bank account or changing job (at my level I have people for that, but that's not due to my race.).\nI mean yeh you treat white tourists better than viet tourists: little known fact, the west is slightly richer than vietnam so money-making merchants will tend to be more polite to the guy with more money.\nA chinese billionaire will also be better treated than a middle class white dude. It's ...all so strange... It's like...\"racism\"...but based on money...\nVery mysterious.", "Fuck off retard. You motherfuckers are treated as gods because of your skin color regardless of your economic status. And the only reason we're having such a mindset is because of the fact you fucks coming over here and turning our country this way with your dividing and conquering the country and treating us like shit for decades. If you think not being able to open a bank account feels discriminatory, you can go suck a dick", "lmao, most chill monyet, did a mat salleh steal your girlfriend or something lol?\nYou motherfuckers are treated as gods because of your skin color regardless of your economic status\nNo, above poster is right, go read any comment section of a begpacker article, no one is treating them like gods, in fact the opposite, they want them deported, it's clearly economic.\nhttps://old.reddit.com/r/malaysia/comments/10qmg1a/begpackers_who_allegedly_beg_for_weeks_6/\nhttps://old.reddit.com/r/malaysia/comments/10zh68h/these_fuckers_started_to_use_our_mrt_stations_as/\nhttps://old.reddit.com/r/malaysia/comments/y9g3vh/begpackers_draw_scorn_of_city_residents/\nturning our country this way\nThe British left 70 years ago dude, at what point do we start blaming ourselves for how the country is?", "Totally. This sub has got such a chip on its shoulderabout 'orang putih'", "I think you mistaken Malaysian with Singapore", "No, I don't think so. Same DNA after all.", "Didn't realize we also have SPGs and SPBs too", "depend on which foreigner lol" ], [ "Multiculturalracism" ], [ "I'm not sure if it ever has been, despite all the initial 'multi-ethnic society' branding. I've visited places with a more diverse melting pot of cultures that don't try to shove their multiculturalism into their marketing.", "The difference is between other countries and Malaysia is by the second and third generation everyone assimilated to a certain common culture\nBut in Malaysia you can have people who have people who have lived in the same land for 5+ generations but still have very different diversities of values, language, cultural norms etc etc", "The difference is between other countries and Malaysia is by the second and third generation everyone assimilated to a certain common culture\nAssimilation within 2-3 generations without bloodshed is a myth\nCompare the Kelantanese and the Johor Malays. Both are Malays but practice very different dialects and have quite varied cultural norms.\nThere will always be differences. But if we keep dividing ourselves by our differences I bet you we will only become more and more particular about those differences.", "You are comparing two local ethnic while assimilation here is meant for the foreign ethnic.\nA more valid comparison is between the peranakan cina in terengganu and the cina in kl and penang.\nThe chinese in kelantan, terengganu, melaka, kedah, have successfully assimilated with the local culture without losing their \"base\" heritage.\nThey are still chinese and not melayu, and their religion is still buddha not islam.\nIts a similar situation in indonesia, the chinese in java has assimilated into the javanese culture, in sumatera with the melayu/palembang/batak, and sulawesi with the bugis/manado, etc.", "A more valid comparison is between the peranakan cina in terengganu and the cina in kl and penang.\nYou're comparing communities with different base entry dates.\nThe peranakan have been here for centuries and have intermarried with the local community over generations.\nThe more recent influx just preceding merdeka don't have the benefit of intermarriage (different marriage laws), unified neutral and competitive schooling systems or multiple generations of gradual integration.\nDEB has done its damage.\nThe chinese in kelantan, terengganu, melaka, kedah, have successfully assimilated with the local culture without losing their \"base\" heritage.\nWhat you're describing is closer to integration. Not assimilation. Assimilation is where you shed your base heritage and form a homogeneous whole.\nAlso not true.\nAlso Chinese population Kelantan 2.5% Terengganu 5% Melaka 20% Kedah 12%\nMelaka is quite similar to KL in terms of integration/assimilation. I don't know on what basis you just lumped them here.\nKedah Chinese used to be quite integrated. But nowadays, it's different. You'll see neighborhoods in kedah are now increasingly less diverse. You can thank DEB again.\nTerengganu and kelantan are few in number. You'll need to ask them to blink if they're ok.\nIts a similar situation in indonesia, the chinese in java has assimilated into the javanese culture, in sumatera with the melayu/palembang/batak, and sulawesi with the bugis/manado, etc.\nAnd there was intense bloodshed before this happened. In Indonesia.\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_1998_riots_of_Indonesia\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_mass_killings_of_1965%E2%80%9366\nTouting Indonesia as the gold standard speaks volumes about the type of nation building you have in mind.\nUltimately,there's no forcing unity. It must come from a shared vision for a greater nation. But we've lost that. We even have people who want to stamp out all that is different and unique for homogeneity.", "I think a more correct statement is \"vernacular school system had done its damage\".\nBase date entry and intermarriage doesnt matter that much. What about others that migrate here during colonial times or after merdeka that has successfully integrated with the local community?\nMelaka is somewhat in the middle ground of 50/50. Theres a high number of peranakan not just chinese but also the indian ceti and serani. And at the same time also has major \"china\" chinese population.\nDespite already being 2nd or 3rd generation these chinese still insist on being part of china instead of integrating with the locals.\nTerengganu and kelantan are few in number. You'll need to ask them to blink if they're ok.\nYeah because the for hundreds of years they have been enslaved, tortured, killed, extort, and many other atrocities being comitted and yet magically they are still alive and living harmoniously.\nEven during the darkest moment like 13th mei there was no riot or any bloodshed occur in both Kelantan and Terengganu.\nI never said indonesia is the gold standard but they are the closest which is why i use them as reference.\nLike it or not assimilating or integrating with the local majority is a must for a nation to move forward as one. If it cant happen peacefully then chances are it would happen throught bloodshed.\nNot just in indonesia but also thailand, philippines, vietnam, china, etc.\nTrue unity cant be forced, but without it there is no way for a nation to succeed.\nThere is no \"aku , kau\" just \"kita\".", "And there was intense bloodshed before this happened. In Indonesia.\nNot in Java. Here's a letter from Hongkong from the colonial era and here's the earliest (while being Chinese-aimed) newspaper we know of to include a version of the present national Anthem. The only Chinese-related riot I can think of in Java that predates this was the Chinezenmoord. In fairness you'd even find Mat Sallehs slipping sentences (or in this case singing) in Malay and Javanese in those days so make of that what you will lol.\nOn Sumatra and Borneo (and to, as seen here, at times similar complaints to the Malaysian internet) otoh you actually still find people speaking Chinese (and non-Chinese people not speaking a form of Malay natively themselves to begin with). Afaik this leaves Indonesian plaing a role more similar to English than Malay in Malaysia, so ig not a one-to-one example to copy over there in any case.", "Yes, it's difficult to assimilate properly when you are literally classified as second or third-class citizens, isn't it? Is that what you're trying to say? What use is learning the language when it doesn't even guarantee your enrollment in a public university? Or worse, straight-As students getting rejected because of the BS bumi \"quotas\". Why contribute to a society that literally uses your hard-earned money to take care of a bunch of religious extremists who want to strip away your rights?\nI'm sure you have a very reasonable excuse for this?", "Chill out, I agree with you\nBut I’m just trying to point out the differences in how it works in others and us", "I ain't even mad, I'm just pointing out the flaws in your statement. Heard this argument so many times, but none can give me a good answer when I question them back.", "I’m not here to debate about who is a second class citizen or not so all the best", "No one is debating who's the second-class citizen here, that's literally already a known fact. You are arguing that the nons don't assimilate properly because of whatever reason you're trying to portray here. I'm telling you that when you have systematic racist policies coming from the top-down, this has to be the only reasonable reaction one could expect, no?", "chill bro. Use sarcastic comment better.\nExample: Every Malaysian who speak BM well can get Bumi status.", "There’s inequality even amongst bumis.", "Every bumis who speak BM well can get a spouse. /s", "Chillax", "Yes, it's difficult to assimilate properly when you are literally classified as second or third-class citizens, isn't it?\nI mean that is what happen when most people tend to forgot history, that is what happen when the founding parties were more inclined with their own ethnic line and keen to preserve it.\nWhy do people think many of our neighbours dont have the same major problem we have? Because they didnt care, the \"minorities\" would stick to the national identity or die trying.\nThat is what happen to the southern phillipines, that is what happen to southern thailand, that is what happen to indonesia, that is what happen to singapore.\nIf people dont want the bumi policy to still be implemented then they should tow the line of national identity that is dictated by the majority. But the forefathers didnt want that, and now they moan why they should be malaysian when they are treated as \"second class\" citizens.\nThere is no apparently give and take, you assume that their hard earned money is used to take away their rights. Why do you even think religious extremist happen anyway? Just like your argument that why they should assimilate when they got nothing in return would just give cause to the extremists to grow, in excuse of them not assimilating. Its a circular problem.\nI mean just look at the national language issue, either you do or you dont even then it get politicise. The bumis arent the only ones with \"woe is me\" syndrome.", "I mean that is what happen when most people tend to forgot history, that is what happen when the founding parties were more inclined with their own ethnic line and keen to preserve it.\nSuggesting that ethnic strife is a result of forgetting history or ethnic groups clinging to their identity is veering dangerously close to excusing policies akin to apartheid. Are you sure that's the message you're trying to convey?\nWhy do people think many of our neighbours dont have the same major problem we have? Because they didnt care, the \"minorities\" would stick to the national identity or die trying.\nDidn't care? Now you're straight up talking from your behind. The claim that our neighbors don’t face major ethnic problems due to minority assimilation is blatantly wrong. I mean dude you don't even have to look that far, Thailand's Malay-Muslim insurgency - ongoing since the 50s and increasingly violent in the last two decades. The Malays up north are straight up bombing and killing people because they want to preserve their cultural identity and autonomy. So your argument really has zero weight here.\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Thailand_insurgency#Background_of_the_insurgency\nIf people dont want the bumi policy to still be implemented then they should tow the line of national identity that is dictated by the majority. But the forefathers didnt want that, and now they moan why they should be malaysian when they are treated as \"second class\" citizens.\nThe whole idea that people should just forget their identity and blend in with the majority to avoid unfair treatment is absurd. The idea that minorities should simply fall in line with a majority-dictated national identity is even more ridiculous, especially in a multicultural society like Malaysia. Blaming the forefathers for not assimilating is a reductive view, you're simply ignoring the genuine grievances about unequal treatment and rights, which are legitimate issues in any society striving for fairness and equality.\nThere is no apparently give and take, you assume that their hard earned money is used to take away their rights. Why do you even think religious extremist happen anyway? Just like your argument that why they should assimilate when they got nothing in return would just give cause to the extremists to grow, in excuse of them not assimilating. Its a circular problem.\nWhy extremism happen, that's for another discussion. I'm talking about people who perceive their financial contributions as being funneled into policies and practices they find unjust, a real sense of disenfranchisement and the feeling that one's contributions are not leading to equitable societal benefits. We're discussing assimilating a multicultural society like Malaysia, characterizing the entire situation as a circular problem oversimplifies the dynamics at play. The real challenge lies in creating a society where diverse identities can coexist, where differences are respected, and where policies are fair and inclusive. Ignoring these nuances and framing the issue as a simple cause-and-effect scenario, as you did, shows that you're merely an apologist for the bumi policies.\nI mean just look at the national language issue, either you do or you dont even then it get politicise. The bumis arent the only ones with \"woe is me\" syndrome.\nLearning the language or culture means nothing if you’re still going to be sidelined by discriminatory policies like the bumi quotas. It's like being in a rigged game where the rules change based on who you are, not what you achieve.", "Suggesting that ethnic strife is a result of forgetting history or ethnic groups clinging to their identity is veering dangerously close to excusing policies akin to apartheid. Are you sure that's the message you're trying to convey?\nBecause that is what is happening. This accusation of the bumis as if they are the sole reason for the state of the country is unbecoming.\nHow is it excusing policies? I am stating that the policy inacted by the founding parties of malaya which consists of major representation of the three races that causes the problem we have today. Your tone of only accusing the bumis is what makes it a point of forgetting history.\nThe only message I got from your reply is \"bumi is bad\", while I am merely stating the state of the current situation is at play because the actions taken by all the races in the pasts. The decision to toe with racial line, highlighting that is is a matter of not simply the malay are the cause of all their suffering.\nBut then again the \"woe is me\" crowd seems to not only infected the bumi community but also others as well. At least the bumi acknowledge the fact that their actions brought this state of affairs.\nI mean dude you don't even have to look that far, Thailand's Malay-Muslim insurgency - ongoing since the 50s and increasingly violent in the last two decades.\nThat is what I meant that they didnt care, they forcefully assimilate the minorities that led to violence of forced assimilation.\nThe Malays up north are straight up bombing and killing people because they want to preserve their cultural identity and autonomy. So your argument really has zero weight here\nIt does hold weight, your argue that let me rephrase \"why should we assimilate if we are treated as second class citizens\". Because the other side of the coin is what happen to the phillipines, to thailand and to indonesia.\nThat is why I say you forego history to why thinks the way it is right now. Is it the best outcome? Of course not, but it is the best that could be established now.\nJust like how our history tackle the racial issue by talking and using diplomacy, I highlighted this fact because you seem to gloss over that. That assimilation, is something that our neighbours does while we didnt.\nThe whole idea that people should just forget their identity and blend in with the majority to avoid unfair treatment is absurd.\nNo if that is the case we would have follow our neighbours ways. But we did not, nobody is telling you to forget their identity. But that is the problem isnt it? You just want your cake and eat it too.\nespecially in a multicultural society like Malaysia. Blaming the forefathers for not assimilating is a reductive view, you're simply ignoring the genuine grievances about unequal treatment and rights, which are legitimate issues in any society striving for fairness and equality.\nI am not blaming the forefather for not assimilating, I want to bring forth that the non bumis forget why the forefathers reach the agreement in the first place and how those agreement is affecting the current setting we see ourselves at right now.\nYou argue about genuine grievance of unequal treatement and rights but ignore the genuine grievance unequal economic and standard of living that bumis have is very conveying. Ignoring that fact while uplifting the former is reductive in view as well doesnt it?\nThere is a reason why during the early stage of the pre independent malaya there was grivance of territory simply becoming a chinese colony. Records had shown that before ww2, especially that the ratio of chinese to malay in malaya was nearly 50%. There is a reason why this fear exist, being a stranger in their own land and that fear persist to this day. Especially with the seemingly lack of assimilation cultivate this view even more.\nI'm talking about people who perceive their financial contributions as being funneled into policies and practices they find unjust, a real sense of disenfranchisement and the feeling that one's contributions are not leading to equitable societal benefits\nAt this point I do agree. The policy inacted does perpatuate this sentiment. But the policy itself is the product of toeing the racial line. Which further perpatuate those feeling which further perpatuate the policies inacted.\nThe real challenge lies in creating a society where diverse identities can coexist, where differences are respected, and where policies are fair and inclusive. Ignoring these nuances and framing the issue as a simple cause-and-effect scenario, as you did, shows that you're merely an apologist for the bumi policies.\nAn apologist? No I am acknowledging this history, while you gloss it to simply focus on the \"present\" but ignoring why the bumis feel the way they are. You say I ignore nunaces, but you deny why the bumis perspective of the matter doesnt help your cause. When I stated the reason for the bumi policies you accuses me of being an apologist. How is that ignoring nuances, your statement literally ignore nuances.\nYou want the bumis to relent, learn why they put it in the first place. But you dont do that. You want to fight for your cause but you dont want to learn your opponents. In the end the problem still persists because your argument is merely one sided.\nLearning the language or culture means nothing if you’re still going to be sidelined by discriminatory policies like the bumi quotas. It's like being in a rigged game where the rules change based on who you are, not what you achieve\nAnd that is why your argument is a lost cause. You want the discriminatory policies to be repealed but dont want to see the reason why it happen. To solve that you need to also solve the reasons to why the policy is implimented in the first place. But you dont, you just want what best for you. And that is folks is what is happening in this country. Everyone just wants the best for themselves and that is the reason why things wouldnt change.\nYou want to simply blame the bumis for this problem is simply in your words \"reductive in view\". That is why I pointed out that nobody is wanting to give and take anymore, no more using diplomacy.\nIt takes two to tango, at least I know the bumi policy has far reaching consequences. In fact even the malays know this, but why do they have to care? How do you want to have a fair and equal malaysia when things like the national language is mocked. You want the bumis to care about your woes but refuse the same is \"reductive in view\".", "It's funny how you keep mentioning who are to blame for bumi policies, like it's some kind of valid excuse for ongoing disparities. The issue is never about blaming bumis; it's about addressing systemic inequalities that have persisted and evolved over time. Remembering history shouldn't mean accepting unequal policies indefinitely.\nThe only message I got from your reply is \"bumi is bad\"\nOh wow, now you're putting words in my mouth to support your own argument? How mature of you? I criticized two things in my replies, Bumi \"POLICIES\" & Religion Extremist. Please point out exactly where did I mention bumi is bad or any meaning like that.\nThat is what I meant that they didnt care, they forcefully assimilate the minorities that led to violence of forced assimilation.\nThe violence and unrest in Southern Thailand are not because minorities didn't care to assimilate; it's precisely because they were forced into a national identity that didn't respect their cultural and religious distinctiveness. You get it now?\nNo if that is the case we would have follow our neighbours ways. But we did not, nobody is telling you to forget their identity. But that is the problem isnt it? You just want your cake and eat it too.\nYou outright stated, \"If people don't want the bumi policy, they should toe the majority's line on national identity.\" Now, are you backtracking? And let's get this straight – asking for fairness and justice is now seen as wanting a slice of the pie? What an implication! Are you insinuating that Malaysia was solely built by the Malays? What am I missing here? Are you actually suggesting that non-bumis don’t deserve their share? And make up your mind: did the non-bumis control the economy to such an extent that bumis were left at a disadvantage, necessitating government intervention with policies to level the playing field, or did the non-bumis contribute so insignificantly that they don't warrant a share of the pie? Your stance is riddled with contradictions.\nThat is why I say you forego history to why thinks the way it is right now. Is it the best outcome? Of course not, but it is the best that could be established now.\nMaintaining the status quo can only benefit one group, guess who? Acknowledging the historical context of the bumi policy is essential, but it doesn't mean the policy should remain unchallenged if it perpetuates inequality. The goal should be to evolve these policies in a way that reflects current societal needs and ensures fairness for all, not just maintain them because they were agreed upon in the past.\nYou argue about genuine grievance of unequal treatement and rights but ignore the genuine grievance unequal economic and standard of living that bumis have is very conveying. Ignoring that fact while uplifting the former is reductive in view as well doesnt it?\nIt's a false dichotomy to suggest that addressing the grievances of non-bumis necessarily means ignoring the challenges faced by bumis. This is what is wrong with you, in your mind it's a zero-sum game, it's either the bumis or the nons.\nThe goal in a just society should be to uplift all communities without perpetuating racial biases or discrimination. Why should we suppress the minorities if we want to uplift the bumis? Suggesting that policies favoring bumis are justified because of their economic disadvantage ignores the fact that not all bumis are economically disadvantaged and not all non-bumis are economically advantaged. And unless the Malays are mentally challenged at birth, I really don't see a reason why race plays a part in an uplifting program at all. Your argument is way too weak and myopic.\nAn apologist? No I am acknowledging this history, while you gloss it to simply focus on the \"present\" but ignoring why the bumis feel the way they are. You say I ignore nunaces, but you deny why the bumis perspective of the matter doesnt help your cause. When I stated the reason for the bumi policies you accuses me of being an apologist. How is that ignoring nuances, your statement literally ignore nuances.\nAcknowledging history is important, but using it as a crutch to support current unequal policies is where your problem lies. It's not about glossing over the past or ignoring the perspective of bumis. Clinging to historical justifications for policies that continue to perpetuate inequality today is not acknowledging history; it's being trapped by it.\nYour stance imply that critique of bumi policies amounts to ignoring bumi perspectives or their historical grievances. This is a false narrative. Recognizing the historical context doesn't mean we should accept ongoing inequalities as unchangeable. It’s entirely possible to understand and empathize with the historical struggles of bumis, yet still advocate for reforming policies that no longer serve a fair and equitable purpose.\nYou accuse others of ignoring nuances, yet your argument does exactly that by failing to recognize the need for these policies to evolve. It’s not about being an apologist or not; it’s about whether you're willing to look critically at the present implications of past decisions. Just because a policy had a certain rationale in the past doesn’t mean it remains valid or fair in the current context.\nYou want to simply blame the bumis for this problem is simply in your words \"reductive in view\". That is why I pointed out that nobody is wanting to give and take anymore, no more using diplomacy.\nIt seems like you have trouble making the distinction between criticizing bumi policies and blaming the bumi community. The focus of the critique is on the policies, not the people. The argument isn't about assigning blame to the bumi community as a whole; it's about challenging the fairness and current relevance of certain policies that happen to be labeled as 'bumi policies.'\nAnd that is why your argument is a lost cause. You want...\nThe argument isn't about ignoring the reasons behind bumi policies; it's about recognizing that clinging to outdated policies in the name of history is holding Malaysia back. It's not a lost cause to demand fairness and equity. This isn't about blaming bumis; it's about challenging a system that perpetuates inequality. Advocating for change is part of a healthy democracy, not a refusal to give and take. A fair and equal Malaysia needs policies that reflect its diverse reality, not just the interests of one group. It's about creating a society where everyone's rights and contributions are valued, not just those of a select few.\nIt's evident that your perspective is a direct result of years of political manipulation that it made you so obtuse that you failed to see the issue at hand, when challenges to the bumiputera policies are mistakenly seen as attacks on the Bumi/Malay community, a narrative you seem to have bought into. This is a narrow viewpoint and fails to recognize the difference between questioning a policy and targeting a community. It's sad that you have such a myopic understanding of what's essentially a broader issue of fairness and equality in policy-making.", "You accuse others of ignoring nuances, yet your argument does exactly that by failing to recognize the need for these policies to evolve. It’s not about being an apologist or not; it’s about whether you're willing to look critically at the present implications of past decisions. Just because a policy had a certain rationale in the past doesn’t mean it remains valid or fair in the current context.\nNo, I do see the policy the need to evolve. That is why kept on banging about diplomacy. That is why I kept on saying that for it to be repealed something of worth should be implimented as well. But you dont seem to address that, you just want it to be repealed and that is that. What does the bumis get in return for appealing the policy?\nJust look at the Jawi issue. If you cant recognise the problem with that, then what is the point of them relenting? To them it is not a win-win situation.\n\"Just because a policy had a certain rationale in the past doesn’t mean it remains valid or fair in the current context.\" But it does help to formulate a path to go foward. But you are ven refusing to acknowledge that ratiomale in tbe first place so how do you want it to be valid and fair, when you are ignoring the other side of the coin.\nYour stance imply that critique of bumi policies amounts to ignoring bumi perspectives or their historical grievances. This is a false narrative. Recognizing the historical context doesn't mean we should accept ongoing inequalities as unchangeable. It’s entirely possible to understand and empathize with the historical struggles of bumis, yet still advocate for reforming policies that no longer serve a fair and equitable purpose.\nI do apologise if that is what my stance seem to be thought of. But that is not the case, critique it all you want, I want it to better as well. But you are ignoring the bumi perspective and their historical grievances, you are not recognising the historical context and that is the problem.\nYou keep on parroting reforming policies and being fair, while ignoring the context, how can it be fair? You want to address the non bumis woe but ignoring the bumis perpsective on the matter. How would the bumis accept that? You want it be equitable to the non bumis, that is a fair point. But to what way are you addresing the bumis side of the problem. The challenges isnt as simple as number on a piece of paper.", "It's funny how you keep mentioning who are to blame for bumi policies, like it's some kind of valid excuse for ongoing disparities.\nOh really? Now you are putting words in my mouth. I stated why the bumi policy was implemented. You ignore the why. That is why I pointed it out.\nThe issue is never about blaming bumis; it's about addressing systemic inequalities that have persisted and evolved over time. Remembering history shouldn't mean accepting unequal policies indefinitely.\nReally? Because you are only addressing the only one side of the spectrum. That is what I am arguing against you. Remembering history shouldnt mean accepting unequal policy. But you ignore history to why it was implemented in the first place. Does not addressing the root cause of the friction of the bumi place. As such you are only making excuses for non bumi and not getting the reason why the policy was implemented.\nAs I had stated again and again you want to reverse the bumi policy? Learn why the bumi implemented it in the first place. But you dont, that is why I argue you wouldnt achieve much by being one sided.\nBumi \"POLICIES\" & Religion Extremist. Please point out exactly where did I mention bumi is bad or any meaning like that.\nI mean being treated as third class citizens? Really now? I dont rememver not allowing the non bumi to vote, nor restricting their citizenship. But hey you didnt mentioan it right, just explicitly implying towards it.\nThe violence and unrest in Southern Thailand are not because minorities didn't care to assimilate; it's precisely because they were forced into a national identity that didn't respect their cultural and religious distinctiveness. You get it now?\nIt is not because the minorities didnt care to assimilate, it is because the government doesnt care about the minority. That is the reason why they are force to being assimilate in the first place. But hey third class citizens right?\nYou outright stated, \"If people don't want the bumi policy, they should toe the majority's line on national identity.\" Now, are you backtracking?\nNo I didnt, read it as the whole context. In the same reply I touched upon how neighbouring countries uses it as a a way for forced assimilation. We didnt, we used diplomacy. Give and take, but people seems to not want that. As such that is why the course of action in that context would be consider as toeing the majority line on national identity.\nAnd make up your mind: did the non-bumis control the economy to such an extent that bumis were left at a disadvantage, necessitating government intervention with policies to level the playing field, or did the non-bumis contribute so insignificantly that they don't warrant a share of the pie? Your stance is riddled with contradictions\nYes, you forget that the country has only been independent for less than 65 years and that matter of fact wouldnt just be a bygone thing. The non bumis household income in 1976 was twice that of the malays, the household poverty was twice of that the chinese and less of that of indian household. The same decade also shows that while 70% of the land use is owned by foreign entity, the ones owned by asian are the rest. Of that the chinese owns twice the amount, in comparison to the malay.\nThis is due to the system in place, the dual economic system that rely on the malays to do the traditional work of farming, fishing etc.\nMy stance is lnt riddle in contradiction. My stance is to bring forth the attentiom that you are ignoring. Unlike you I do want to change for a better Malaysia. But to do that I am not ignoring the plight of one side while upholding the other. The only reason why I am even playing devils advocate here is because you ate exclusively championing the plight of the non bumis while simultaneously ignoring, even being ignorant of the problem face by the bumis.\nMaintaining the status quo can only benefit one group, guess who? Acknowledging the historical context of the bumi policy is essential, but it doesn't mean the policy should remain unchallenged if it perpetuates inequality. The goal should be to evolve these policies in a way that reflects current societal needs and ensures fairness for all, not just maintain them because they were agreed upon in the past.\nI never argue for the maintainence of the statu quo. I didn lt even criticise you for challenging the policy. I criticise your lack of nunace that comes from the bumis side of the problem.\nI even again and again stated that the policy effect creates this circular motion of consequences. But you seem to ignore that. I had stated again and again that if you want to remove the bumi policy, you need to know why the policy was implemented in the first place.\nTackle that problem as well. Because currently you are not and that would not solve any problem and the same policy would be perpatuated again and again.\nIt's a false dichotomy to suggest that addressing the grievances of non-bumis necessarily means ignoring the challenges faced by bumis. This is what is wrong with you, in your mind it's a zero-sum game, it's either the bumis or the nons.\nBecause that is what you are doing. You are adrresing the grievance of the non bumi by ignoring the challenges of the bumis. That is why pointed out, for the bumi policy to be repealed something must ve given. You dont see that, in yiur mind there is nothing to give. Becausr you are blinded by the problem faced by the non bumi, while ignoring the bumis.\nI am not the one who is advocating for bumis or non bumis, you are. You arent tackling the problem from a malaysian perspective. You are trying to tackle it from a non bumi perpective. That is the zero sum game.\nIf the stance you take is to also help the bumis, your ignorance to the demographical, cultural, historical, and economical background of the bumis. It doesnt translate as such.\nWhy should we suppress the minorities if we want to uplift the bumis? Suggesting that policies favoring bumis are justified because of their economic disadvantage ignores the fact that not all bumis are economically disadvantaged and not all non-bumis are economically advantaged.\nI am not justifying the policy. I am giving context to it. That is where you dont seem to wrap around the nuances. Why do you think the policy was implemented in the first place? Why did it favor the malays? Why does the major parties toes the racial line? You dont seem to want to see this part of the of the ordeal. Not acknowledging this fact is what damned your cause, you want to repeal the policy but refuse to see the why, the reason, the politics, the context in which the policy was implemented for. What you think people start something willly nilly?\nIf it was as simple as that, the policy would be repealed as it was planned in the first place. But you only want to see only one side and to that good luck.\nAnd unless the Malays are mentally challenged at birth, I really don't see a reason why race plays a part in an uplifting program at all. Your argument is way too weak and myopic.\nAnd that is where why I see you are simply doing this for yourselves. The fact you dont see the reason why race play a part. Shows that you dont understand the history, you are just parroting feel good words.\nMy argument isnt weak, you just refuse to see that the bumis also has reasons for the policy. But hey, to not acknowledge your opppnents grievances is the sure way to solving this aint it?", "When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression. Think about it. I'm done with you. Hava a nice day.", "When you feel like you are the only one who is having problems it is everybody elses fault. I would bid you the same but I would know it wouldnt fit your own narrative.", "It seems like you have trouble making the distinction between criticizing bumi policies and blaming the bumi community. The focus of the critique is on the policies, not the people. The argument isn't about assigning blame to the bumi community as a whole; it's about challenging the fairness and current relevance of certain policies that happen to be labeled as 'bumi policies.'\nI am not even assigning blame. I have put out again and again on why the policy was implemented. That policy was agreed upon by the major representative party of that time. If that is what you consider as assigning blame, then you dont want to learn of historical context.\nChallenge the policy, not once has I denounce your point concerning the bumi policy. Not once. I pointed out, that in your crusade to criticise the bumi policy, without knowing the reason behind it, would not solve the problem. You repealed the policy then you solve the non bumi grievance, but what happen to the bumis grievances then? Your sole focus on only the non bumi is what I am calling you out on.\nIt's evident that your perspective is a direct result of years of political manipulation that it made you so obtuse that you failed to see the issue at hand, when challenges to the bumiputera policies are mistakenly seen as attacks on the Bumi/Malay community, a narrative you seem to have bought into. This is a narrow viewpoint and fails to recognize the difference between questioning a policy and targeting a community. It's sad that you have such a myopic understanding of what's essentially a broader issue of fairness and equality in policy-making\nThe fact that you degrade the views that is seen by the bumis as simply \"political manipulation\", is astounding. But hey you want a fair and equitable system, you need to learn to put yourself into another shoes. Not simply demeaning the other point as non-issues.\nAgain how can you make a fair system if you dont know the grievance of your own opponents, their history, their background, their fears. You accuses of me being short sighted, yet I am not the one who is belittling the views express by an opponent as \"political manipulation\", and apparently I am the one that cant make the distinction. But apparently airing the viewsand grievances of your opponents is just myopic.", "I had a Chinese-Malay guy telling me, completely unironically, that the UK shouldn't allow immigrants from the Middle East because they don't integrate properly.\nHe got a little quiet when I asked him how many generations ago his family moved here and if they spoke BM at home.", "I'm confused.How does integration has got to do with language spoken at home?", "It's a bit of an artificial divide that splits between \"we speak X language, you speak Y language, we are different people\". TBH it's only as big a problem as you want to make it out to be. For example, in Singapore, it really doesn't matter since everyone has to learn a \"mother language\" so the 3 different languages are seen more as different \"course subjects\" like people taking science vs economics, not a big deal.\nFast forward to the Ukraine civil war (before the Russian invasion) where people were going \"We speak Russian so we are not Ukrainian!\" and Civil War ensues. They made it a big deal so it became a big problem to them.\nThis language thing is only as big as you want to make it, but it can go pretty big if you want it to!", "Chinese Malaysians, along with Indians, Ibans, Bidayuhs, etc are integrated citizens of Malaysia and they belong in this country. Comparing a fourth generation Malaysian Chinese to say, a Moroccan immigrant in France on the subject of immigration is basically comparing apples to oranges.\nAlso we minorities have kept our fluency in our mother tongues in tact and we're way more fluent in them than say in the US or UK where people actively want people, especially minorites to speak English. But that doesn't mean we're not fluent in Bahasa Malaysia, we still speak it and we pride ourselves in our diversity.\nWhether what that guy said was right or wrong can be debated but calling him a hypocrite is your fucking problem and you can stick it right up your white ass.", "Unfortunately that sentiment is rather normalised in Western Europe :/" ], [ "Never was , its just propaganda", "Not really, we are probably the best at it currently." ], [ "Nobody in Malaysia believes in multiculturalism. Outside of Malaysia, its just propaganda and foreigners don't know much about Malaysia in the first place.", "Exactly. In foreign universities Malaysians get so upset when you bring up examples of racism in the classroom discussions and they all deny it til they're blue in their face but after class they all go back to their respective kelab UMNO, DAP n pas n collect their allowances n attend their \"not for your people\" jamuan free...", "Multiculturism can't exist when segregation is the norm." ], [ "Root of the problem: Too much Islamisation and “Us versus Them” being engrained in a large percentage of a certain race from young. Hence the kami jaga kami shenanigans.", "20 Millions, 64% of the Malaysian population were Muslims. This is their ancestral land and NOT YOURS. Now you’re talking about their religion and at the same time want the equal rights. Get a life somewhere else lol", "Aah geez guys, I made the muslim extremist mad. Alright2 back to Tong San I go.", "Lol ☠️🤣. Ignore that fella only, sounds like a ketuanaan keris waver" ], [ "Look discrimination happens everywhere.\nWhat makes malaysia truly unique is that the discrimination is systemic, publicly funded and sanctioned by the government against the minorities for the last 50 years.\nAt least in overseas they pretend to try to fix it; here it’s too sensitive to even discuss it.\nSome folks always go like yea Singaporean hates Indians too. Last I check they don’t have quota system against Indian. Or how Americans still discriminate against blacks but last I check it’s illegal to ask for race and gender in job application form in US.", "Meh, have you lived there ? It’s not a mistake that graduates from universities in Singapore is predominantly Chinese.\nIn 2020,\nA whopping 80.5% graduates are Chinese, 10% are Indians and 4.1% are Malay.\nThey just hide it better la.. don’t fool yourself", "<image>\nCompared to malaysia. Dont hide it at all.", "True.. I agree education should be accessible at all levels despite race.\nMy points remains, to the Singapore fanboys / girls they are racist too.. ure fooling yourself with the comparison 😂😂", "Rental discrimination does happen there with all the stereotypes and stuff.", "80.5% graduates are Chinese, 10% are Indians and 4.1% are Malay.\nRead slowly. Especially the part on \"At least in overseas they pretend to try to fix it ...\" whereas here it's written in black and white that discrimination is legal.\nFor those looking for source on parent commenter's stat, this paper appears to be it. I highly recommend reading the entire paper on how they are identifying the problem and propose fixes going forward. And then look back at us Malaysia.\nMalays’ proportion of Diploma & Professional Qualification was the highest at 16.9% compared to 15.2% Chinese and 15% Indians in 2020.\nAnother promising picture is the field of study Malay university graduates are in – a significant number of them are in new technology/sciences...https://karyawan.sg/2020-census-a-community-perspective/", ".... isn't that just the normal population distribution? I'll be more surprised if Singapore had a 80% Malay graduate rate, like \"Where are all these extra Malays coming from? Or did the Chinese suddenly boycott the University education system?\".\nWith 80% Chinese, won't it be logical that 80% of the graduates are also Chinese?", "Alright, put the same logic to Malaysia la.\nBumis are the largest by ethnicity around 62% and yet in 2019, here is the statistics by race for graduates in malaysia\nBumis - 3.4 million Chinese -1.3 million Indians -368 thousands\nFor argument sakes, let assume these are the total graduates in malaysia.\nIn percentage form -\nBumi- 67% Chinese 26% Indians - 7%\nAnd yet, people keep glorifying Singapore when there’s an obvious disparity between education access across race more than Malaysia . Puhless .. hypocrites I tell you.", "Then you should be claiming that Bumi quotas don't really change a thing rather than randomly accuse Singapore of being racist. You're working in the wrong direction, instead of justifying Malaysia's fair stance, you rather pull both parties down by claiming that both are racist on a basis of a normal population distribution. Which also kind of crashes in logic.\n\"The graduation distribution closely follows the population distribution. We must be somehow suppressing someone.\" -logic failure.", "its everywhere... China is even worse.. only money matters.. almost like agreeable anywhere those china mentality", "Whataboutism", "China is fairer because only money matters so if you work hard you get it, if not you leave to make another boss (or yourself) richer. It's literally pure play capitalism.. worked there for awhile and you get low fix pay but almost unlimited bonus based on your output\nHere we have this stupid pakat mentality. In govt, one dominates, in private the other. Anything other than the big two can go fly kites.", "Can't they understand that it's sensitive because it requires discussion, and possibly requires a consensus made to make it a less sensitive issue?" ], [ "We treat Palestinians better than the nons.", "Pakistanis too, until they started tackling your bini so they can start opening businesses (a minor problem in outskirts in Selangor)", "only kisah bile politically convenient\nafter that toss out the window", "Same here in Sarawak and also in Sabah.", "Islam... Oh Islam....\nThats the answer for those who believe such things...", "Shitty people will still be shitty even without the religion as an excuse", "I blame the Holy Shit religion for that! Every time something bad happens, you'll see that one of their believers is involved.\nCar crash -> \"Holy Shit!\"\nPlane crash -> \"Holy Shit!\"\nSkateboard accident-> \"Holy Shit!\"\nSee? Every time something bad happens, there is always one of their believers around! Coincidence? You tell me!\n:P\nlol\nPS: Just in case people don't get it, it's a joke where an exclamation is taken as a statement of religious belief.", "Nothing to do with Islam. Your the reason why Malaysia has problems l", "I am the problem.\nI want all Malaysians to be treated the same regardless of religion, race, gender, sexual orientation.\nIndeed I am the problem. Because I won't bow down to certain people saying certain things.", "Yes you are, because you made assumptions and commit hypocrisy against the very statement you just gave.", "Islam oh Islam....such is the drive for PAS\nIslamic party Malaysia...number one in all our hearts\nSomething something all other races and religions should die...la la la\nSung to the tune of the great hit - Death to the Infidel", "Generic party made of uneducated anti Islamist gathering in the name of Islam saying some dumb shit.\nIt’s not like other parties in Malaysia don’t do the same with their own voter base.\nEast Malaysia DAP calls anyone who doesn’t vote for them as race traitors, PKR sides easily with the corrupt, UMNO uses its race rhetoric all the time.\nInstead of being an ignorant racist, maybe attempt to live up to your own statement.\nWe don’t need to go into the world rhetoric in history of every ideology doing terrible stuff today and in the past.", "And how do I live up to it if I don't speak out against such atrocities?\nKeep quiet and diam? Let it wash over us?\nPray tell, how should we live up to become true Malaysians? Where we see each other as brothers not islam/non or races?\nTell, pray tell, since you called me a hypocrite and ignorant. Share your thoughts since you know it all.", "Speaking up doesn’t mean becoming another ignorant racist in themselves.\nYou can always find more logical and sensible stand points.\nYou will never remove the brotherhood people share in an ideology. Religion and race will always have some level of play to the human mental state in different ways.\nYou want to do better? Ask why isn’t pas living up to their stated Islamist values online with the constitution of Medina and larp whabbist and racial politics.\nAsk why dap states to not be racist but drops racial statements all the time from genuine post of “race traitors” etc\nAsk why UMNO supposedly the savior of the poor man involved in big money politics?\nAsk why PKR became UMNO?\nThey all have legitimate reason it’s you can stand up for moderate values rather than adopting one general uninformed mainstream racial take.\nExtend further and look at human rights hypocrisy and how no nation truly has it implemented.\nSystematic racism exist in Denmark (Greenland folks)\nSwedish far right rising due to compromises with moderates right.\nThe world has problems and it allows terrible people to rise due to generalisation and ignorance.\nYou want to make Malaysia more humanist? Appeal to the Islamist humanist policies.\nYou want to make Malaysia less racially problematic improve minority integration into the country and condemn racial states by parties that engage in demonising the majority or the minority.", "Oh wise one. You have spoken.\nTruly your words are amazing.\nPlease mods let's sticky it.\nSome of what you say is true. But really you don't have an answer yourself. It reads like a thesis on \"everyone is bad, so be better yourself, just don't ask me specifics\"\nYou want to make Malaysia more humanist? Appeal to the Islamist humanist policies\nIndeed. Islam oh Islam let it continue to expand into the lives all non believers.\nDeath to the nons!", "must be a bitter non. malaysia doesn’t even grant palestinian refugees right to work, yet you have the audacity to say this. wallow in your own sense of deprivation." ], [ "It's never been. Multiculturalism has always been either a tourism slogan or a campaigning slogan, in order for people to have a nice warm fuzzy feeling on the inside that they're doing something right. Look beyond the surface level, peek into the details, and you'll find things are very different.\nMulticulturalism implies, and requires, an ability to accept practices that are not ours, even when we do not understand or align with it. And while our people, for the most part, get along, how many stories have you seen recently that fall under the theme of lack of tolerance?\nThis is an ongoing irony of Malaysia: cakap satu, buat lain. Politikus will talk a lot about multiculturalism but at the same time will fabricate issues to generate anti-multiculturalism drama for political gain. Cakap satu, buat lain. Our tourism slogans talk about welcoming people to a diverse culture but when minorities here speak up, so often we hear \"tak suka, berambus\". Cakap satu, buat lain.\nAnd people are very comfortable not confronting that doublespeak because it allows them to avoid uncomfortable conversations about their own doublespeak. And as long as this is the case, Malaysia is heading down a dangerous path." ], [ "Far from it.\nThe ethnic minorities are Pendatang, remember ? A few former prime ministers of the country have been very vocal about it, repeatedly labeling the Malaysian-chinese, Malaysian-indians pendatang, and budget under the Sabri's administration is a testament.\nThe poster of multiculturalism is purely advertising, sealing investment deals for the ruling party, tourism, and as disguise to con the foreigners.", "Talked to my friend about this just a few days ago. Went to Kuala Lumpur and was feeling proud of how my motherland has developed until I realized that ppl here don't see me as \"locals\"... maybe yes but not truly, not from their heart\nthey'll still treat me as a pendatang when it comes to limited-spots-for-benefits given by the government...." ], [ "Since when Malaysia was EVER a poster child for multiculturalism. It is conservative AF with all the Muslim rights. Man. Was a gaslight thread", "It was right up to the 80s when Mamak + Anwar islamation of the civil service and education prog took hold.", "It always has been. Even now we are still the best in it compared to other countries.", "*Laugh* from Singapore.", "Singapore is not as diverse and far from being multiculturalism compared to Malaysian. Quite literally lacks diversity as a whole, Singapore has less diversity than the US.\nSingapore has its own issues and will continue to have them as well.\nMuslims rights has never really been the issue it’s been the failure of long term integration of immigrant groups and the ability to full enforce Islamic rights along with national code along the constitution of Medina.\nI don’t have to go far to look at issues at East Malaysia where DAP actively makes racially motivated statements such as “race traitor” on their official social media or go to West Malaysia and look at PAS going in ethnic lines.\nMalaysia is pretty centristic.\nNot right enough and not left enough depending on person.\nYour bubble isn’t the reality of Malaysia luckily enough.", "Comment chain nuked due to being in breach of reddiquette, specifically because it contained personal attack, insult, or threat and devolved into slapfighting instead.\nu/PurposeExtra9144 and u/Fit_Treacle_6077, consider this an official warning as we don't welcome this on the sub. Comments in the similar vein may result in a ban or a permaban." ], [ "Malaysia was indeed multicultural before. It was beautiful. This is back in the 80s and 90s. (That’s the time I was growing up, so probably it was the same before as well) After that it decided it wanted to be Islamic and fast forward to today, it’s trying really hard to be truly Islamic and erase everything beautiful about it.\nAt least when we fail, we can look to Singapore and see how culturally diverse they are over there.", "Singapore isn’t as culturally diverse nor as great at it.\nMalaysia has to deal with over 100 indigenous groups all different from each other, dozens of minorities groups.\nIslamic policies had never been the issue, it’s only the issue when people like you pretend it is.\nIt’s always been a long set of problems from social inequality, failure to recognise colonial problems, lack of integration between the large number of different groups including other bumis etc.", "Trading \"semua salah DAP\" with \"semua salah British\" is progress. I can get along with that.", "The British caused irreplaceable damage to Malaysia.\nDAP is just another PAS for its own audience.\nBoth terrible.\nWhen you have DAP in Sabah and Sarawak posting on their official media calling Chinese or mixed people “race traitors” for voting other parties, you definitely have issues. The same with PAS.\nThis is a stupid argument to make, they both do ton of damage but people are stuck in their own bubble.", "Then call it what is it. The British have done irreparable damage, and the continued policy of Malaysia to hold the nonBumis in second-class status is doing irreparable damage. What's so hard about that?", "“Second class” - gotta tell my father who is not Malaysian has never felt that way he should feel that way from now on.\nFurthermore, bumi putera policy is affirmative action and has repaired a portion of the problem.\nIt’s a great program used across the world, what you should be fighting for its immigrant backgrounds to integrate into the local community, accept the cultural and Islamic rights of Malaysia, push for economic universal care while officially recognising the plights of all groups and maintaining the Bumi Putera rights until a proper transition and time period has been met.", "Ok. If you say so. 😉", "Oh 100%, but hey stay ignorant.", "Sure. I’d love to. 😉", "Good and hopefully racist like you won’t breed anymore.\nIf you can’t see the diversity in Malaysia and ignore it to only Malay, India and Chinese. Stay ignorant.\nWhen we have half a million Arabs, Millions of Orang Asal of different ethnicities, hundred thousand Pakistanis etc and yet ignore their existence is insane.", "Omg. You don’t give up do you. How old are you?", "You’re doing the same. Keep it up" ], [ "the poster-child for multi culturalism should be Australia or Canada. Malaysia is heading towards an Arabic mono culture instead", "Brother have you lived in Australia or Canada? They are far worst than us.\nAboriginal Australia deal with so much shit it’s insane, same with indigenous Canadians.\nTons of immigrants are heavily discriminated in Australia and Canada but deal with it due to higher pay etc.\nThis is a huge talking point in their countries.\nYou have regularly Nazi marches calling for the deaths of aboriginals etc in Australia.\nYou have regularly attacks on minorities in Canada.\nDon’t live in a bubble.", "nope. I have lived in NZ and they are the friendliest people imaginable. My brother and sister love living in Australia and US respectively. also see the top 10 migrants to Australia for the past 20 years\n<image>", "I live in Australia. You might ignorant about what happens here and in New Zealand but we have Nazi marches quite regularly in Australia.\nIt’s not hard to find cases and many counter protest happen at regular intervals in Melbourne central.\nAlso Australia etc the Anglo world has had huge immigration push again due to global north and south issue.\nNew Zealand itself has had lots of issues and is one reason my Māori and White friends have began immigrating to Australia due to a less problematic area in some states.\nMāori issue has been a large part of New Zealand recent politics and has seen the rise of many Māori politician highlighting their discrimination being faced etc.\nDid not include the Christchurch shooting - even tho it should have been listed.\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_Zealandia\nhttps://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/aug/23/who-is-julian-batchellor-stop-co-governance-new-zealand-far-right-speaker-indigenous-voice-to-parliament-referendum-no-campaign\nhttps://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/nov/18/queensland-muslims-ask-for-police-protection-over-new-zealand-far-right-activists-pro-israel-protest\nhttps://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-67621800.amp\nhttps://www.1news.co.nz/2023/09/30/racial-slurs-shouted-during-invasion-of-te-pati-maori-candidates-home/\nhttps://www.justice.govt.nz/about/news-and-media/news/maori-highly-victimised-by-crime-survey-finds/\nA simple search will bring you a large list of issues in New Zealand.\nAustralia is more amplified and is trying to make changes judicially to fix some issues but will probably not be able to do so in a large meaningful way for a while.\nLiving in a bubble does not reflect the issues a society faces.\nMy immigrant father from a “discriminated” group in Malaysia has never faced any issue and think Malaysia is extremely friendly and nice.\nHowever this does not equate to the reality of what some Malaysians face.", "Spoken like someone who's only visited Australia/ Canada for holidays..." ], [ "Actually no. Most people in other countries I've visited have asked me about the discriminatory policies - so it's common knowledge that Malaysia's a terrible place for Nons.", "It isn’t lol. You realised you probably been to all the countries that have that same policy right?\nAustralia, New Zealand, UK, America, Sweden, China, Taiwan etc all have the same policy.", "Guys, he's going to show us Australia, New Zealand, UK, America, Sweden, China and Taiwan's constitutional right to affirmative action for a majority race!\nI'm sitting here ready to have my mind blown.", "Those countries do not take into account whether the group is a minority or a majority but looked at the perceived injustice committed to those groups.\nFor example, all Irish people are in the UK are entitled to affirmative action, this has also been the Scottish and Walesh people who were subjected to the brutality of the English.\nThe UK has also passed large amount of incentive for female population regardless of size.\nIt backwards to believe only a minority of people should receive help.\nNo educated person would agree with that stance.\nTyranny of a majority and minority works both ways", "Everything sounds right, except that in Malaysia it is the already-privileged, already-holding-the-reins of economic and political and demographic power Bumis who still benefit from affirmative action.\nNo one else does this. Malaysia is special. Very. Special.", "Expect this is not true the majority of Bumi are not in that position and even when grouped they are still not in that position of privilege this goes against every statistics out there aside from demographics which looked into is a messy due to over 100 distinct indigenous groups alone in Malaysia.\nAgain your fighting for the wrong cause when you could be fighting for better equality as a whole and a fair transition along with integration of immigrant background groups, acceptance of culture and Islamic rights of Malaysia, push for better social class care and a slow transition to a universal standard after the grievances of indigenous people can be met while introducing programs for the poor.", "The UK does not have any sort of affirmative action for Irish, Welsh or Scottish people.", "Why would you confidently say that without checking for a second?\nhttps://academic.oup.com/ojls/article-abstract/24/3/363/1570636?redirectedFrom=PDF\nhttps://www.lawscot.org.uk/media/372057/23112021-scottish-governments-use-of-made-affirmative-procedure-002-003.pdf\nhttps://research.senedd.wales/research-articles/what-is-wales-doing-to-eliminate-racial-discrimination/\nhttps://www.gov.uk/government/publications/positive-action-in-the-workplace-guidance-for-employers/positive-action-in-the-workplace\nThe UK also employees something called Positive Discrimination :)\nThe UK employees more limited affirmation action for Wales & Scotland tho did consider quota education policy for Wales before trying to instead fund everyone there as to avoid backlash from English voters etc.\nThe UK also has many policies for its “colonial” states it still occupies.\nReally is the UK has already integrated its white population into a capacity that allows them to excel due to long periods of colonial wealth.\nOnly exemption is the Irish which they have introduced programs for a regularly give higher budget to.o.", "I’m from the UK. There isn’t affirmative or “positive” discrimination for the Scottish, Welsh and Irish people. Though the exception to that is probably Irish Catholics in Northern Ireland. This doesn’t apply outside of NI.\nThe Scottish and Welsh governments might have schemes aimed towards Asians or black peoples, not for ethnic Scots/Welsh people.\nThe UK doesn’t occupy Scotland, Wales or NI. They are not colonial entities.", "Irish people has it, tho so those other territories.\nAs for Welsh and Scotland they depended on a few factors.\nQuite literally linked you different forms of affirmative action.\nTho British “oversea” territories also have affirmative action.\nAgain as white British did not really experience much levels of segregation aside from the Irish there wasn’t much requirement to provide them with affirmative action.\nAlso as for another country eg: Sweden it applies to white European Sami peoples.\nPoint is that it has always been used for groups facing injustice in the case of the Uk it primarily focuses on Irish and non-white minorities.\nWhile for Malaysia the majority Bumi were affected hence why they need affirmative action.", "I've actually read the papers and you'll have to pick out the parts that actually look like Malaysia's \"affirmative action for an ethnic group with economic, demographic and political power\".\nCould you quote from them?", "I gave examples of affirmative action there however here is an example of a direct quote:\nReligious focus here is more towards the catholic Irish who were prosecuted.\nhttps://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/24/labour-backs-positive-discrimination-to-close-racial-gap-in-policing\nHere is an exact quote:\nIn Northern Ireland which used a form of positive discrimination, Catholic representation massively increased from 8% in 2001 to 30% in 2011.\nhttps://www.equalityni.org/AffirmativeAction\nIreland dabbled into quota university but received enough funding to avoid it.\nThe way the UK frames affirmative action and the lack of openness about it under the guise of multiculturalism is why many people aside from the White English conservatives have been not really focused on it a lot.\nThey are only jobs for certain ethnic groups: tho they predominantly apply only to immigrant racial groups who were apart of the British empire pre decolonisation and are British citizens.\nThey also changes the naming scheme for those jobs in 2021 after backlash by White ethnic groups in the UK and minorities may have been avoiding them due to how it was marketed.\nhttps://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/style-guide/writing-about-ethnicity/", "I'll make it simple. You've put out many examples of affirmative action, but none of them benefit a group that has all 3:\nEconomic power ☑\nStrong demographic representation ☑\nPolitical power ☑\nReligious focus here is more towards the catholic Irish who were prosecuted.\nhttps://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/24/labour-backs-positive-discrimination-to-close-racial-gap-in-policing\nHere is an exact quote:\nIn Northern Ireland which used a form of positive discrimination, Catholic representation massively increased from 8% in 2001 to 30% in 2011.\nIn Nothern Ireland, they're trying to solve an ACTIVE problem where the Catholics are under-represented. Your source says so itself.\nStrong demographic representation ☐\nThey are only jobs for certain ethnic groups: tho they predominantly apply only to immigrant racial groups who were apart of the British empire pre decolonisation and are British citizens.\nThey also changes the naming scheme for those jobs in 2021 after backlash by White ethnic groups in the UK and minorities may have been avoiding them due to how it was marketed.\nhttps://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/style-guide/writing-about-ethnicity/\nWait, how does this prove that anyone is benefitting from affirmative action and already has:\nEconomic power ☐\nStrong demographic representation ☐\nPolitical power ☐\nWestern governments look at historical injustices, then they identify a group that lacks at least one of the three. Their affirmative action aims to solve an ACTIVE problem. You are fixated on the idea that they see \"Historical injustice ☑\" and start affirmative action policies.\nMalaysia is special because it justifies its pro-Bumi affirmative action policy solely on \"Historical injustice ☑\".", "Going to add the British is only one of the many examples. Yea they are under representation for the majority 48% Catholic Irish population.\nYou basically answered yourself:\nBumi do not have economic power as a whole land even then Bumi is a large unfair group lumped together to be considered.\nNorthern Irish catholic are the demographic majority and politically a major force.\nAffirmative action is done in different ways, we are one of the unique nations where the majority were oppressed." ], [ "As a Malaysian, I wish our government policies or political rhetoric could truly live up to the ideals of a multicultural country that we wish to embody. But the recent rise in right wing populist political rhetoric by a certain political coalition in Malaysia proves to be a strong hurdle towards that ideal" ], [ "Only as a marketing gimmick to lure tourists. Every local knows that we have serious unresolved issues, and laws were made in a way that prevents these issues from getting discussed in any meaningful way, or resolved in a just manner." ], [ "It is if you're classed an \"expat \"and not a \"migrant\".", "TBH I've been noticing a lot of migrants using the ex-pat term, even Filipinos and educated Bangladeshis. Yea I know it applies to them, too, I'm a MUET Band 5 cert. holder, but don't kid yourself. We all know in Malaysia, ex-pats = white. Local semantics." ], [ ".....\nWait, Malaysia was a poster child for multi-culturalism? When did that happen? In the 1960s? lol.\nMalaysia is more a poster child for \"Melayu Satu! Chinese and Indians know your place under us!\" than any form of multi-culturalism." ], [ "Beyond what I come across on the Internet daily, my everyday life remains colorful. People are respectful, mindful of boundaries and caring for others. Each day I find myself learning new things about different cultures. The people I know take pride in their backgrounds. Good foods, vibrant environment. So, I still believe it is. Occasionally, there will be some people who seem dissatisfied with anything and everything, but that's just the way it goes I guess." ], [ "Yes, if you try to get out from reddit and see the world for yourself" ], [ "Heart says yes! Mind says no.\nReverse is true for (some) visitors here. But mixed bag really." ], [ "I studied in Malaysia in for 5 years.\nI am from Maldives, so I have a South Asian ethnicity and look very much South Asian. (brown skin tone, etc). What I noticed is that people were extremely racist towards us UNTIL they find out we're from Maldives, then they're extra nice. This was the case whenever we dealt with Chinese-Malays and even Malays. Always found it weird.\nI personally attributed that to racism in the culture against the Indian Malays, because why else would they react like that?", "Because you're Muslim, duh" ], [ "Malaysia truly for bumiputera" ], [ "No, we’ve become the cautionary tale of screwing everything up. Especially compared to every neighbour, we’ve lost on every front." ], [ "Not anymore. If you're talking about multiculturalism, look towards Australia and Canada." ], [ "Been traveling in KL for the past week, and I'm still searching for that Indian with an afro...." ], [ "go to any mall — do you see multicultural group of friends these days? hardly. but got la those english speaking types..." ], [ "To be fair almost no other country in the world has multicultural things going on. Italians, koreans, chinese, and so on. Only here.", "America, Canada and Britain are actually pretty diverse.", "Tbf, multiethnic doesn't necessarily equate to being multicultural.", "What is the difference between the two, and why does Malaysia qualify to be considered as multi-cultural?", "Chinese new year public holiday", "It is somewhat like the melting pot vs salad bowl and/or assimilation vs integration argument. They look the same, people might argue that they're similar but imo they're somewhat different. Ethnic focused more on the race or ancestry, although people might argue that it's tied to culture.\nWe don't \"kill\" the culture. Malaysian would most likely identify themselves as chinese, malay, indian, iban etc first. And we can say for sure that our way of living are very different than each other. In fact, we celebrate our multicultural identity. Just look at all the festivals, cuisine, chinatown, little india, the \"unofficial\" mini karachi, rohingya enclave in selayang etc.\nCompared roughly with the US, at least they tried to assimilate everyone into the American identity despite the multiracial background. Rishi Sunak, the prime minister UK might be of Indian descent, but he's firstly a British. We might add that he's British-indian or something, but british first and foremost.\nRacism exist everywhere whether we like it or not, whether we refuse to recognize it or not. Sadly, our govt failed in cementing the Malaysian identity among us. Heck, we can't even agree on a single language to communicate.\nI might be rambling incoherently, but I hope you get the gist of it.", "Such an exaggeration. Those places certainly don't kill their culture. I'd like you to go to the US, and tell the latinos or chinese, or indians that they've lost their culture. You probably won't get out of it unscathed.\nJust because they have a national identity doesn't mean their culture was killed. Not every place went through what the Indonesians did.\nEven Malaysians, when leaving the country, identify as Malaysians first. I don't know what race you are, but just imagine a malaysian chinese studying in the UK, are you gonna say you're just \"chinese\" and risk being confused as a mainland chinese? I seriously doubt it.", "I don't think that's right. Rishi Sunak is still a Hindu, for instance and is married to an Indian woman. The Scottish First Minister is a practicing Muslim. The Muslim Council in Britain says it has over 1200 masjids. None of this seems like assimilation to me, more like integration.", "And they still have racism issues too.", "At least its technically against the law instead of being institutionalised like in Malaysia", "That’s true. Would prefer Malaysia to be the same.", "The difference is by the second and third generation everyone assimilated to a certain common culture\nBut in Malaysia you can have people who have people who have lived in the same land for 5+ generations but still have very different diversities of values, language, cultural norms etc etc", "Isnt that being multicultural?", "With mass migrations since the 19th century, most countries in the world are multicultural, with some exceptions where there is little immigration to that particular place, e.g. Korea.\nChina has been multicultural ever since its expansion from the plains, and claimed to be multi-cultural ever since the Qing dynasty, and after the revolution, the fist flag they used had colors representing the significant ethnic groups.\nItaly and Korea did not form globe-spanning empires, but unlike Korea, Italy does have immigration from typically poorer countries from Europe." ], [ "yes, we are banglasia now" ], [ "While I’m here sitting next to this pool in this nice hotel with my kids and their cousins…let me try to break this down coming from a 44-yr old man who hailed from a kampung up north and now living in Selangor.\nThe article lament the old days where people respect each other, visited each other during festivities and eat each other’s food.\nWell, back in the day the respect comes from knowing each other first and then loving each other. We know that you only eat halal food and you don’t eat beef and that when you have family members who just passed away recently, you don’t celebrate CNY too big.\nNowadays, beighbours don’t even know their neighbours name and if the neighbours parked the car wrongly, one just post the picture on the resident association WhatsApp group and started complaining to all 400+ people in the said WhatsApp group to move the car as it’s blocking this guests that one has for one’s party/kenduri that one never invite the neighbour in the first place. True story by the way.\nIn the cities, most of us only ever want things for ourselves, we are selfish people as humans generally are.\nThe dude himself said “Of course, some might argue that it is my fault for being disengaged from my neighbours. Perhaps, the generation ahead of me felt the need to connect more, and live harmoniously together, instead of being in silos.”\nHe’s so big and mighty felt like there’s no need to engage and connect and move harmoniously together.\nBut he still laments his parents living harmoniously together? Then make noise about his Muslims guests worrying about their food.\nDude, you are the one who’s suppose to be forthcoming and inform them that the food are halal.\nYou feel that you interacted with ease…but do you ever ask them how they really feel. Dude, you need to make more effort to know your friends and family dude.\nCommunity starts with ourselves. Starts with own family. How much we teach our family to respect each other and in turn respect those around us which include neighbours.\nYou yourselves just give the obligatory nod you neighbours and you expect people to be good to you. Oh such a mighty stupid arrogant fool you.\nYou only see fault in other people’s and yet not yours?\nLet me point things out for you a bit so you see the stupidity of yourselves.\nYous spoke about Rishi Sunak…but you failed to mention that he dresses like an English, he speaks like an Englishmen, he lives his daily lives like an Englishmen. Why don’t you advocate people of other ethnic to speak the official language of Malaysia to gain the respect of and votes of Malaysia?\nYou spoke about Singapore head of state Mr. Tharman Shanmugaratnam and Singapore being more finesse by appointing this person.\nWhy didn’t you talk about that the position is largely ceremonial with almost no executive power except for a few things? The real power has been in Chinese ethnic hands who are also of the ethnic majority there? Not to mention the only party who’s been in power since independence. And who is know to be very undemocratic where they would quash any for of oppositions with all their might.\nUntil we have eradicated people like you, who only sees the fault in others, until people like you who doesn’t care about their neighbours wilt away, until we have people like you who think of themselves as high and mighty and have no wrong extinct, then we will have a truly multicultural nation where we respect and help each other.\nTill then, we will just be just like this somewhat racist trainer for greedy corporates who somehow thinks of himself as the model person of the nation but instead, just a guy who doesn’t even care about his neighbours much less about the country and is actually a snake oil salesman for over 20 years.", "As much as I dislike the tone of your message, I'll concede that some of your criticisms do carry merit.", "Thank you for the kind (sort of) words, reading through the whole thing, and giving your honest opinion of it.\nI try to make it that kind of tone on purpose and with passion.\nI really despise people who barks of unity in a community when even at the simplest form of community (neighbourhood) he failed to do the very thing he wants others to do at national level.\nI have only one word for it, hypocrites. The worst of people indeed these hypocrites, especially as a professional trainer.", "Admittedly I honestly feel Malays are the nicest people. Just not in politics.\nSay your car breaks down in the middle of a road, and people come to help you in pushing it to the side. 7-10 times its usually Malay or Indians.\nChinese people usually have a self centered kind of mindset, this I shamefully confess.", "100% that most Malaysians are all nice people no matter the race.\nMy Chinese neighbour Miss Ng (was also my science teacher in school back in the day) never failed to share food during moon cake festival and during CNY. Come to our house during Hari raya and give duit raya.\nAnd currently Mr Lim my next door neighbour whom I always leave my house key whenever I balik kampung never failed to report every few days that house are all good and I got a few packages he helped received.\nNo matter what race, we are mostly nice people. As you said, it’s the politics that divide us. So it’s up to us to brings people closer and don’t let the politician further divides us. Or worse, feed onto what the politician gives us to further divide us.\nI make it a point to buy my current house where I know I have Chinese / Indian neighbour next door and across. We need to start doing it first before we can expect others to do it.\nSend my kids to go to a farther achool (20 mins further than the closest one) where there are more Chinese and Indian pupils so they can learn to mingle with one another closer and share the highs and lows together and forge deeper bonds.\nI’m blessed with a life where I can choose to do so and I only pray that others can do so or even more so we can forge deeper bonds across races. That’s the only way to move forward. WE have to start first and hopefully one day our kids or grand kids can see it finally happen.\nThat kind of article (written by the trainer) is the kind of politics talk that divides us. I can forgive uneducated or ignorance folks in kampung as they don’t have the means to learn and whatnot. But to have a fully educated urban man do it is what pains me.", "Fully educated urbanites who are yet uncivilised in conduct😤 yeah we get that a lot" ], [ "Its not uncommon tho, few examples\nChina with Uighur\nChina with Hong Kong\nUS with native American\nUS with colored people\nNot that it isn't right but its not uncommon but we absolutely should be better but step by step even US have Barrack Obama after 200++ of independence and after that only white dude got elected anyway\nBtw our neighbors too - Indonesia with their Chinese community - Philippines with their Muslim community", "China with Uighur (and tibet) is not an ethnic/cultural issue. It is an issue with dictatorship and imperialism. China actually treats ethnic minorities very well (as long as they dont aspire independenxe as CCP did try to practise socialism). The ethnic minorities are given privileges (quota, autonomous regions, liberal children policy) Hong Kong, Taiwan are being / will be brutalized for their independence aspiration despite being the same ethnic / culture s China" ], [ "I mean, kinda since Malaysia is the only one who loosely fits the bill. With the collapse of Austria-hungary and Yugoslavia, I say Malaysia is one of the only developing country actively striving for multicultural (with mixed results of course).\nWhile other countries have said they are multicultural, in paper that is not the truth. Countries such as China, Russia and Indonesia have different ethnicities but all will be ultimately assimilated. Western countries are guilty of such policies too. Malaysia is the only country where different race groups live so differently, that they sometimes can't even understand each other. Now, that's truly Asia" ], [ "How can discriminated people dominated top 10 richest people in the country.", "That's the same as asking how can Palestinians be discriminated in Israel/Gaza when so many Hamas leaders are rich", "How would you feel when you’re suffering and someone tells you your uncle’s uncle’s uncle’s friend’s brother is rich so you should be fine too and don’t need any help?\nThe law is not fair, we give different privileges based on our race that is the fact. Stop pointing finger elsewhere and pretend this is any less.", "they've been suffering so much that they know only money matters, so that's why that generation of Chinese are capable of doing so?\nI mean, give us the same rights same benefits? We could be just as lazy as \"your people\", see that eh?" ], [ "Don’t even understand these non-bumis rants. Malaysia wasn’t an apartheid state. Non-bumis mostly are richer than bumis. But still menyalak macam terpaling tersakiti. Talking crap about Islam and being racist against Bumis community. You think the equal rights will happen anytime soon?\nDid we shutdown your business? Destroy your temple? Destroy your culture?\nThe reason most of bumis are against this equal right is because we don’t feel the “respect”. We feel threatened.\nThis is OUR ancestral land. If you wanna that rights, show that you can respect first.", "Did we shutdown your business? Destroy your temple? Destroy your culture?\nI'll just say this and you don't have to respond, because I won't even bother to:\nWhen I was running my business, I have Malay neighbors who came into my shop and told my customers to leave \"because the proprietor is not Malay\". So yes, you might not know, but there are people who have been trying to shutdown our businesses. To say nothing about the Raub durian case and other issues. And the cries to shut down vernacular schools, how is that not an attempt to erode our culture?" ], [ "So far, I have zero confidence about the possibility of achieving unity between Bumiputera and Non-Bumiputera particularly Chinese groups. I believe the Indian community displays a strong sense of semangat kewarganegaraan due to high participation in the Malaysian Armed Forces and other public service branch.\nFor example, when the government wants to promote Bahasa Malaysia, most of tongsan group just like in this reddit express opposition. They are often critical, undermining and questioning the government's effort.\nWe can unite if non-bumis agreed to the discontinuation of vernacular schools. (Unfortunately, these tongsan community will never allow it. terpaling tersakiti.)\nWe can unite if non-bumis agreed to memartabatkan Bahasa Malaysia. (Unfortunately, these tongsan group still thinks that they're in Singapore).\nWe can unite if non-bumis have a \"spirit\" like us, a commitment to safeguarding our ancestral land. (Unfortunately, it won't happen).\nI'm sure that the Bumis group would be open to embracing the concept of equality once those criteria are fulfilled. Takkan tiba-tiba nak dapat that equality kan? kahkah", "I believe the Indian community displays a strong sense of semangat kewarganegaraan due to high participation in the Malaysian Armed Forces and other public service branch.\nMy parent was in the army too. It's the amount of racism that he felt that compelled him to forbid his offsprings from joining.\nFor example, when the government wants to promote Bahasa Malaysia, most of tongsan group just like in this reddit express opposition. They are often critical, undermining and questioning the government's effort.\nWe can unite if non-bumis agreed to memartabatkan Bahasa Malaysia. (Unfortunately, these tongsan group still thinks that they're in Singapore).\nMost Chinese won't object to memartabatkan BM. Tp when you want to advocate for the use of BM to the point where it becomes impractical, refusing the use of English when necessary for example, that's where the disagreements come in.\nIn fact, I believe I can speak on behalf of most nons that we don't even care who's PM. As far as I'm concerned, that was a stupid comment by Lim Kit Siang. Melayu ke, cina ke India ke. Just be effective. Jgn la hypocrite, jgn la fail to tunai janji, and jgn la fail to save the country. But look at what's happening after so many years?\nAnd we don't even care about Singapore. It's the sense of not being wanted here that makes us look across the Causeway. Your \"tongsan group\" is not helping either. It strikes the same condensding tone as \"pendatang\". Put that in your pipe and smoke it.\nWe can unite if non-bumis agreed to the discontinuation of vernacular schools. (Unfortunately, these tongsan community will never allow it. terpaling tersakiti.)\nVernacular schools are protected by Article 152 of the Constitution too. And since politics can arguably be seen as a form of give-and-take, what is your \"give\" when you wanna \"take\" away our schools? The main issue is not whether nons agree to divest with vernacular schools or not. It's if we surrender this today, what else would we be expected to surrender next time? Will this open a floodgate that will see our heritage being washed away?\nAfter watching Keluar Sekejap, especially the episode where the former minister of Agama Islam appeared, I feel that DAP should tone down their liberalism. There needs to be a balance of theocracy and secularism in Malaysia. We are not UK or US. We are singular. But the other side doesn't seem to want to contend with just a balance too, eh? It seems more like a wave to engulf the country whole and knock us back into the Agricultural Age with all the archaic values and mindset by heading towards full theocracy. Which is the same with that Hudud issue. On paper, it sounds like it doesn't concern us nons. But is it really so? It's impractical and naive to think it won't.\nWe can unite if non-bumis have a \"spirit\" like us, a commitment to safeguarding our ancestral land. (Unfortunately, it won't happen).\nPretty sure those MPs will be on the first flight away before war ever reach our shores. Why dont you ask them first?", "Hey good point over there. Thanks for the clarification... Tongsan really an offensive word because I had bad experience. Rasa geram sometimes the way non-bumis treated us in the company... Kenaikan pangkat, chinese first. Salary? Chinese got higher than us. So dendam and kepercayaan semakin terhakis. But I hope it'll get better over time.\nThe abolishment of vernacular schools doesn't necessarily disrupt your heritage ler. We just want to enhance our sekolah kebangsaan and give students a deeper understanding of various cultures. Masalah sekarang kalau tempat majority malay dan sekolah tu takde chinese/indian.. diorang tend to jadi racist shit. Same goes to SJKC/SJKT.\nTalking about politics, my concern is that certain DAP MPs frequently criticize Muslim beliefs. This is the significant contributing factor to the unease among the Malays towards DAP which is predominantly Chinese. Contohnya majority Malays Muslim tak suka PAS, tapi DAP supporter (mostly dalam this sub) hina PAS tanpa sedar bahawa dia hina certain things related to Islam. Seriously ni buat aku tak puas hati.\nBut thanks anyway.. semoga ada sinar about those equal rights.", "Kenaikan pangkat, chinese first. Salary? Chinese got higher than us. So dendam and kepercayaan semakin terhakis. But I hope it'll get better over time.\nI admit that there are companies that favour Chinese for promotion. Even in my father's workplace, my father is actively trying to promote his former subordinates who are Malay and Indians. He vouches for them and he gets marked as a pariah of sorts in the company. Still, there are some who believes that my father is being fair.\nOn another note, that's what I encourage my Indian and Malay friends to learn Chinese. Let's not forget that one advantage Malaysians have in the job market is our ability to converse in diverse languages. Besides, from a business standpoint, there is so much that those who can speak and read Chinese could learn about. In the scenario you mentioned, learn Chinese. Prove them wrong. Show them.\nThe abolishment of vernacular schools doesn't necessarily disrupt your heritage ler. We just want to enhance our sekolah kebangsaan and give students a deeper understanding of various cultures. Masalah sekarang kalau tempat majority malay dan sekolah tu takde chinese/indian.. diorang tend to jadi racist shit. Same goes to SJKC/SJKT.\nWhich brings us to this topic. The call for the abolishment of vernacular schools could be seen as an attempt to extinct the Chinese culture, at least this is what some believe. You know what's not helping? The fact that some roads are being changed to Malay names. Roads that were formerly named after Chinese. I remember one was a police officer who fought against the communists. Somewhere in Perak, IIRC, and the descendants had to ask the public for help.\nLike I mentioned in my previous comment, what we're afraid, is that some extreme quarters might use this as a stepping stone to further erode Chinese culture. But if everyone is worried about vernacular schools, then why don't we just close all sekolah kebangsaan, send every kid into vernacular schools so that they can learn more languages, and make it a compulsory policy that the medium of instruction must be in bahasa Malaysia? At least from the SMJK that I came from, we spoke Bahasa Malaysia and I remember that we have Malay and Indian classmates too. There was this Indian guy in my class who was the star of the school for being able to moonwalk.\nThen there's the issue of UEC, which is actually a non-issue to me. Yg nk recognise UEC ni hanya dari private school cina, which is completely different from vernacular schools. Vernacular schools ni pakai syllabus pendidikan kebangsaan, tp skh private ni biasanya pakai syllabus Taiwan. Biasa org Kaya je yg hantar anak pergi situ. Klu yg miskin mcm I ni, we don't even care about UEC. Dong zong ni sound more like Batu api je to me. But there might be an argument in its favor that by not recognising UEC, this might - just maybe - contribute to the brain drain that is now plaguing our country.\nTalking about politics, my concern is that certain DAP MPs frequently criticize Muslim beliefs. This is the significant contributing factor to the unease among the Malays towards DAP which is predominantly Chinese. Contohnya majority Malays Muslim tak suka PAS, tapi DAP supporter (mostly dalam this sub) hina PAS tanpa sedar bahawa dia hina certain things related to Islam. Seriously ni buat aku tak puas hati.\nThis I confess to feeling that DAP MPs should lower their heads and just focus on producing results. Yg pandangan liberalisme tu mungkin sebaik baik nya tone down ckit, like I mentioned before. Kita bkn Europe, bkn UK, bkn US. Just like our constitutional monarchy. If we are having both a monarchy and a parliament, then IMHO I don't believe - at least after watching that keluar Sekejap episode - that going full liberalism will work in Malaysia. Being polarised won't work on this soil, therefore it needs to be a spectrum, or better still, a balance.", "Okay totally agreed with you. Maafkan I if I buat you tersinggung with my words. Thank you 🙏🏼", "No problem man. It's dialogue like this that we can resolve misunderstanding and differences." ], [ "poster-Atuk is more like it" ], [ "No" ], [ "FBI most wanted poster?" ], [ "More like poster child for segregation" ] ]

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[ [ "Ho ho ho", "Hoe hoe hoe" ], [ "In a way what he said is true. But the problem is before winning, so much talk gebang giving high hopes to the people.\nWhatever it is, lets just see if what he is doing plays out. If not, not only gebang but also failed his job." ], [ "He is still not fired is cos Anwar has him where he wants as sitting duck Economy Minister with limited role limited oversight while Anwar can marginalised him and sideline him out of important economy finance matters. That will reduce checkmate Rafizi influence as PKR Deputy President and stop his factjon from having any ideas of Rafizi taking over as PKR#1 😄 So Anwar is in no hurry to replace Rafizi cos the longer Rafizi says as Economy Minister, the further his political standing worsens", "naw. its so rafizi takes the heat on economy problem:26554:" ], [ "He's right because he's a clown, not Santa" ], [ "Talk the talk, now walk the talk lah, tulah cakap besar waktu pilihan raya dulu, kan dah panas🤣" ], [ "Pls shut up and do your work instead of big mouth all the Time?\nMake some policies to the public cmon..." ] ]

[ "Economy & Finance" ]

[ [ "83m for each company? Or certain company gets higher penalty?" ] ]

[ "Geopolitical Megathread" ]

[ [ "At this point I think this thread is pointless." ] ]

[ "Politics" ]

[ [ "“When we tried to stop them and said not to enter, they pushed through and caused Chong to get injured,” he told FMT.\nhttps://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/amp/category/nation/2023/10/24/psm-activist-hurt-after-allegedly-shoved-by-lands-and-mines-officer/#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17032439058654&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.freemalaysiatoday.com%2Fcategory%2Fnation%2F2023%2F10%2F24%2Fpsm-activist-hurt-after-allegedly-shoved-by-lands-and-mines-officer%2F\nSeems like a clear cut obstruction case", "Why is your quote nowhere in the above article?\nWhat are you quoting from? Links should be provided.", "Sorry updated", "Ah, thank you. I appreciate that." ] ]

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[ [ "Yeah right." ], [ "Good." ] ]

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[ [ "Why not just buy cheap used car?", "Need to look like a wealthy poor dude.", "Because to them it would be humiliating if they were caught in a used car.\nHell if they wanted new car there's Axia E spec.", "axia \"Ew miskin\" spec /s\n(idk what E spec is)\nmy mom was a victim of multiple underhanded used car tactics and scams pre-2000 and she never ever bought used again ever since. just another perspective", "Need to fix?", "Unfortunately, Malaysians look into the car, and you drive a lot. It determines the respect you get on the road and out of it. Don't believe me, take a merc out for a spin and a Myvi, you will see the difference. Even the foreign security jaga also will padang atas bawah.", "Those are the kinds of Malaysians you don't wanna bend over backwards to impress. Why try to please the eyes of shallow ass people?\nI know some of the richest mudafakas in Cheras and Bukit Jelutong but they drive like freaking proton personas and old gen honda citys. Those are the people I truly wespek.", "You dare question road royalty myvi?", "have bought a used car before and the experience is a nightmare to me, a lot of problems after few months" ], [ "Who the hell wrote this garbage? RM1060 instalment for Salary of RM2000 is suicide.", "That is exactly the point, the person is suicidal.", "got other source of income", "The Ms puiyi way?", "The Ms puiyi way?\nIf is a Man?", "This is 2023/2024 bro, stop gender discrimination.... Man too can be Chippendale..", "don't manipulate the comments, it is a simple question \"if a man\" from which word do you think is falling under gender discrimination.", "doesn’t have to be…there’s many side income u can find", "Pretty sure that's the point of this article?", "What if salary of 2k but saving of 100k - 200k?", "Go ahead if he wants to burn his savings on a monthly basis, as his salary of RM2000 after EPF, SOCSO, and EIS leaves him with roughly RM1700.", "Car loan interest rate vs FD rate my man.. The maths check out. This is why rich people still buy cars using loans. The cash is better off parked in an investment vehicle. Pun intended." ], [ "I pay about 1.1k monthly car installment on a ~5k salary (after EPF cuts) and it's painful... Better buy a cheaper, second hand car unless you really willing to make yourself suffer.", "What made you want to pay 1.1k on a ~5k salary??", "depression lmao came out of a relationship and wanted my dream car which was a civic", "All of my loans are 1.7k and bills not included, on a 4.1k salary and it's painful.\nTo pay half of a salary just for a car is damned stupid" ], [ "RM 1070 is just the start of the nightmare lol" ], [ "So this story does re-affirm the practice of people that spend more than their means. And don't be surprised that it happen on every tier of salaries. I've been told where someone earning more than 10k and cannot pay a rental deposit because their spending habits.\nLike a friend say, gaji sejuta masuk, sejuta keluar.", "people that spend more than their means.\nWat u mean beyond? 1070 is not beyond 2000. Still within means. /s" ], [ "If he is a bachelor staying with parents with no contribution to the household, , and his main transport is motorcycle, I think its doable. To survive that is. Have to sacrifice entertainment and non-essential things.", "What new car owners don't see yet or forgot is the insurance and maintenance.\nSure, the insurance will lower due to NCD over the years, but the maintenance will pile up. As long as his salary keeps up to inflation and the accumulated wear and tear maintenance, and have a job, he may be fine.", "From his financial sense, I think he would probably buy insurance through installments. A 70k car, the insurance with no ncd could reach almost 2k. I dont think he or she has the means to pay it without installment.\nI will always recommend cheap cars for 1st time car owner so can build up the ncd 1st.", "It’s doable but also very financially irresponsible.", "Decades ago i had worked at a bank as a loan processing officer. I can tell you, through out my time working there, I can confidently say 90% of the applicants are financially irresponsible. Hahahaha.\nMany people, if possible wants to max out their dsr to the dot.\nPeople must understand, dsr is not to be used as a reference to affordability. Even if your loan is approved, does not mean you can afford it.\nSo to the girls out there, dont simply see a guy driving a 2.0 civic rs and straight assume huyooo so stylo, dude must have money.", "Lol rm 1k left for food per month. I think he better learn how to make roti", "If he is living with parents, dinner and weekend meals already covered. So only need to spend on working days breakfast and lunch. probably spend about rm300-350 a month on meals. Fuel for motorcycle depends how far he work i think about 100 is already enough. So, he is left with rm500 to spend on other things after minus car installment. Assuming the motorcycle is fully paid.\nTake out car once or twice a month go jalan- jalan. So, i think its possible.", "As if there is no toll in KL and he doesn’t need to pay for this phone and mobile plan. This whole thing should be investigated. Why are banks approving such loan is beyond my understanding.", "My guess, he has some other side income that the sales advisor manage to convince the bank can be used as normal income. Because bank approval nowadays are centralized. Theres really no way can pass the loan with just that 2k income.\nOR, got a guarantor.", "Also can easily sell the car if he’s in trouble. This car fetch a quite high price." ], [ "Biar papa asal bergaya bodo" ], [ "I see they've interviewed my older brother 😒" ], [ "This is ridiculous. This is what I call tak boleh fikir punya orang. Over ten years ago when my salary was 3k+ I didn't even dare to dream about buying a Kawasaki Super KIPS (RM10k) even though I wanted one so badly." ], [ "If said guy has no side income, man gonna have a real good time paying for this r/kereta in the future" ], [ "I haven't bought a car yet but is this sustainable? I mean logically I'm wondering about his rent, food, insurance and emergency fund. It doesn't add up.", "Nope. Even just 1 tyre of X50's size is around RM400-RM600 assuming new and reputable brand. No way this is sustainable.", "But how did the loan got approved? Was the bank desperate for business? Or was it through back door?", "Not too sure to be honest! Perhaps the person applying had a strong guarantor", "Ohhh… Guarantor. Thanks for the info, it make sense now on how the loan passed the approval", "Same as my junior, bought one from PROTEGE allowance, now unemployed, but can sustained from guarantor aka PAMA.", "SUV owner here, RM400/tyre is on the very cheap side.", "if u have other sources of income but didn’t report of course it’s sustainable n i’m sure this guy that bought the x50 has other undisclosed income", "If they don't have any rent, and live with their parents who cover all their bills and food, yes it's possible." ], [ "That guy probably has a lot of cash incomes..", "Undeclared income" ], [ "It's absurd, but just shows how stupid expensive cars are in this country, there's only 2 ways out of this, reduce the excise duties, or improve public transport so people don't have to rely on cars", "Reduce excise duty won’t help because you can’t import in without AP\nThey need to abolish AP to import cheaper K r/kereta", "Yes that too" ], [ "I’m so grateful that I see car as just a tool to get me from point A to point B." ], [ "Let me tell you a story ; my office boi did this but with the new Myvi. Lasted 4 months. Ended up in debt. Tried to get monies thru those handphone gambling. Lost. It’s so bad he don’t have money to even fuel his vehicle.", "Man was confident in his maths and budgeting.\nMan was wrong" ], [ "\"Duit aku, suka aku. Lu jangan sibuk, okeh?\"" ], [ "Got a friend at my ex workplace like this. Our salary around 2500 only but he got an X50. Asked him how much monthly and said around 1k. Meanwhile me with the same salary already feel like my 400 monthly axia is a damn burden.", "Nope, this is just a pretty normal thing in Malaysia these days. Banks will approve loans to anybody. I've got several people earning the starting salary at my workplace who have been approved for s70 loans.", "got assets or whatever shit to prove that they can is enough...officially im unemployed n have no income but can loan stuff hehehe" ], [ "a few sides about the story to be thought about...\nthe buyer had a/some side hustle(s)\nhigh downpayment 30-40% maybe\nas someone said above strong 'guarantor'\nslip gaji gomen clean baik punya....\nthat car SA either really sorry or promoting his skill - any gaji can be adjusted for a spanking new x50 to upgrade your looks... (maybe la)" ], [ "Gilaaa... whoever it is just digging own grave." ], [ "guys,suggest me cheapest toyota plz", "Axia E.\nYes really. Daihatsu is under Toyota r/kereta", "Buy a Perodua and save half your money. Same components, no import tax." ], [ "if u bujang , dont have any other commitment and living with ur parent. and dont want to get marry until next 7-9years go for it bro. i been bujang too but once i married and getting more commitment i downgraded, when im 40s im planning to upgrade." ], [ "Wait... For a moment there I thought I was on r/malaysiapf" ], [ "Air muka dlu ye. Dompet koyak xpe janji gaya ada.\nPersonally feel with 2k salary, shouldn't commit into anything above 60k. Baik bezza dlu jgn susahkan diri demi imej." ], [ "man that is a terrible idea." ], [ "Duit takda tapi gaya mesti ada" ], [ "Clickbait article. Buyer probably have a guarantor or fixed deposit." ], [ "I saw the original post awhile ago, no way would the bank approve such loans unless they see this guy have some wealth under him. Plus RM2000 salary with wife and couple childrens seems very fishy don't you think?", "got other undisclosed income…if u look at me u would be confuse how i bought a car while officially i’m unemployed" ], [ "I can get quite irresponsible with my money sometimes, but this is on a whole new level. This is beyond reckless." ], [ "Don't know real or not. Its a story that another website report and this website then copy paste." ], [ "Car is an asset.. Should have bought a BMW 3 series instead" ], [ "Bersangka baik~~~ He could be wealthy family... Gaji baru 2k, tapi dalam bank got 100k money from parents (ataupun loan atas nama parents), upfront parents bayarkan, thus bank loan approved...\nBayaran bulanan pun parents yang bayarkan, so mmg 2k gaji tak mati pun...\nHarap semua Bersangka baik²~~~ Tak baik mengutuk orang yg \"Have²\"" ], [ "I think the writer how wrote such a shocking stories just to put up for the sake of writing…. There is not much research done before a stories was written …. Yes, The buyer could have low salary but could possibly have a lot of “loaded” behind the scene at their back too…." ], [ "No thanks, petrol cost, insurance, upkeep service, roadtax, paying for your toll business. Be smart and use public transport, ride the bus or train." ], [ "Wow. Back when I was working with a salary 10x more than his, I drove a 30k second hand camry. Guess he got more guts than me" ], [ "Not a chance" ], [ "Got the lowest model bezza even thou I could afford such cars, it's just a medium to get you from point A to B tbh nothing more" ], [ "On paper possible. Even with a calculator possible. But all u need is some random occurance like a tyre puncture and you will be having problems affording next meal. Or worse still your company delays salary for whatever reason. But hell if mummy daddy rich and u got high savings then go for it" ], [ "1/3 of salary to pay this is also hard to swallow. Imagine more than 50%. Then add up some more for fuels and tolls. Gonna be high all the time" ] ]

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[ [ "No mention of benefits to environment, equity, accessibility, jobs, etc. Very narrow-minded, one-dimensional assessment from this retired politician.\nAlso can our politicians stop suggesting ways to directly subsidize airlines lol.", "I think he's just trying to make a point that the interest value is high." ], [ "Same energy as why buy 1 iphone (use 5 years) when you can buy 10 cheap android phones (use 50 years)" ] ]

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[ [ "Smelly hr companies make the labour market smelly." ], [ "And yet they all got visas tl for the Bangladeshis to enter Malaysia..." ] ]

[ "Economy & Finance" ]

[ [ "While I can accept that the pace of inflation is lower today than it was a year ago, 1.5% Y-o-Y change is simply too low!\nFood prices have increased at least 10% across the board since a year ago. Groceries and personal care items have also increased in price.\nOn top of price increases, there is an increased prevalence of shrinkflation (e.g. Fab detergent powder from 2.1kg to 2.0kg to now 1.9kg, or deodorant spray cans from 150ml to 135ml), or skimpflation (e.g. food that has 3 medium sized prawns before, now have 2 smaller prawns).\nWhat's your take on the inflation rate around us?" ], [ "People read inflation rate falling but thinking \"wHy f0od pRicEs sTilL sO bLoOdY eXpEnsiVe?\" Because falling inflation does not mean deflation, it only means prices go up slower. From RM10 to RM10.10 as opposed to RM6 to RM10 previously. Of course la food still expensive, sebab your gaji still ciput." ], [ "The number is YoY, so the base is November 2022 when inflation was probably peaking. Compared to that time, price of chicken has fallen down while everything else has stabilised.\nNon essential goods have probably gone down in price, as reduced demand is forcing retailers to resort to discounts to attract customers and reduce their stocks which have been stockpiling.\n1.5pc is low but if taken on a 2Year basis, still reasonable I feel since we are coming from a high base. If the trend continues, Bank Negara can cut rates in the next session to bring the number back to to a reasonable level." ], [ "Not feeling it" ] ]

[ "Religion" ]

[ [ "Wouldn’t this be a huge landmark case for converts?", "Then go to shariah court, then the judge rule against loh. This just the appeal only" ] ]

[ "Politics" ]

[ [ "I FORGOT! this was recommended by u/amare47 in r/vexillology" ] ]

[ "COVID-19" ]

[ [ "Why the f they keep buying this vaccine? You'd think the state of covid outbreak in China would've proven its ineffectiveness.", "License is with Pharmaniaga, iirc. That's why it's still available.", "Sinovac uses the same delivery tech as all the other vaccines you've had since you were a baby. Pfizer is MRNA, of which was the first human approved for COVID.\nI'd rather take Sinovac than version 1.0 of Pfizer.", "That’s like saying because panadol is around longer than chemotherapy, you trust it more to cure cancer. An ineffective drug is ineffective, regardless of age.", "Sucks for you that's a poor analogy of the situation.\nMy kid got Sinovac with no adverse effects and she's never got COVID. I wanted to wait for it but took AZ instead. I had COVID before the vaccine was available but I haven't gotten it since.", "I took Sinovac and I got covid.", "I took AZ and got covid too.", "Are we going back to 2020 debates about covid all over again? Omg, I'm getting whiplash.", "Same goes to Bivalent crap, just as ineffective but more harmful.", "Lay off the reddit propaganda lol. China's covid deaths were extremely low, certainly much lower per capita than many western countries like America.", "It's Malaysia's own MOH study in 2021 which shows sinovac was less effective than Pfizer. Is that reddit propaganda too?", "Sup lil pink" ], [ "https://www.malaysianow.com/news/2023/06/13/malaysia-to-receive-2-7-million-covid-bivalent-jabs-to-replace-expiring-stock --> deheck happened about this?", "my guess, songlap~~~" ], [ "anyone knows where could i get an updated pfizer vaccine shot?", "Private Healthcare maybe?", "also interested in this.", "Singapore. There’s an option to pay for the vaccine for non residents or something.", "Malaysians residing in their home country who wish to get the new XBB.1.5 mRNA vaccine can book an appointment in Singapore and pay for their jab under Singapore’s private vaccination programme. Moderna’s XBB.1.5 vaccine is priced at SG$158 (RM553) per dose (inclusive of GST).\nI don't think i can afford that ='(", "Better don't waste tax payer money on these expensive rubbish. Drug addicts can find loan sharks.", "The article says you gotta go to Singapore to get moderna.", "under Singapore’s private vaccination programme. Moderna’s XBB.1.5 vaccine is priced at SG$158 (RM553) per dose (inclusive of GST).\nGuess im too poor for the vax" ], [ "Lolno, I have 2 Pfizer and 1 Moderna doses.\nNo way I'm taking an inferior vaccine. Get the updated Pfizer or Moderna shots and then we'll talk.", "Does Malaysia have Novavax?" ], [ "Been waiting forever for bivalent vaccine I guess at this point it's just a pipe dream someone's been smoking" ], [ "as someone who works in a company under the same umbrella as Pharmaniaga... fuck off Pharma" ], [ "Hell to the no. I ain’t taking Sinovac." ], [ "Took the vax, not even a fever when I got hit with Delta" ], [ "I can't use Sinovac, that thing hit me like a truck.", "Sinovac doesn't hit me like truck but definitely hit me harder compare to Pfizer but when I finally got hit by Covid...shit that was rough. 3 freaking day of head splitting pain...like super pain literally crippled me from doing anything other than sleep it off. Follow by whole week of fever, bad cough especially at night,lost of taste+ smell and sore throat....take me like 10 days to recover.", "I just passed out in front of my supervisor. Luckily she knows I have the jab before I come to the shift.", "Dang boys! You take it to another level.", "Well, it helps when her family has the same symptoms when they get the vaccines." ], [ "not gonna bother\nMy 2 shots of pfizer is enough." ], [ "nope lol." ], [ "No." ], [ "Vaccine cartel: (clenches fist) (hissing sounds)" ] ]

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[ [ "Amanah's in a precarious position" ], [ "so whats amanah strategy?\nwhatever pkr/dap tells us to do lmao:26554:", "Actually taking care of their constituency or state seats hopefully." ] ]

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[ [ "My P ass would cry at this road", "Everyone will cry, and picture what would happen if the light went out.", "I live in kajang, even with my mum pointing it for me I nearly went the wrong way. I hate this road with a passion", "I blame the design of that road & the dark environment, diverging diamond interchange can be make a little more fool proof.\nYou need a little curve on the exit to the point it is so obvious that you need to turn. And the road sign need to be lit up with LED signs.", "Where in Kajang is this?", "Near Kajang Exit PLUS Highway", "There’s one very important sign that’s missing here. THIS.\nIt’s mandatory in many countries.", "the sign is present in both directions", "Oh, I see it now.", "Not really sign problem, the driver is confused becuase oncoming switched from the usual right to left. There are a few roads like this around PJ/KL too", "I’d cry too 😭" ], [ "<image>\nIts a diverging diamond interchange as pointed out by a commenter.", "This will work in countries where people are educated to both look and think when driving.\nBoth are very well missing in many kampung drivers.", "Meanwhile city driver. Bapak aku punya jalan", "Just confusion with extra steps.", "Here's why it's not", "True, this can works because of the road space and it flows nicely so people won't be confused. In OP's video, the road (bridge) is narrow and did not flow as nice as your example. I also had been on this bridge before (first time, at night) and luckily I'm using Gmaps and if I didn't, I might be like in situation like in OP's video", "am I the only one who don't get confused the F out on SPUI/Diverging diamond? We have a lot of those in newer highways, & modified diamonds due for better traffic flow. But my bet is the car driver was a uncommon highway users that got confused the F out, as assumptions every diamond interchange is the same diamond interchange.\nAnd don't get me started on people who break and waiting going to the left @ LDP/Federal Highway/LDP Penang Bridge interchange.", "For the uninitiated, first timer, it would be confusing, I guess. It goes smoothly once you've learned it.", "Yeah. An observation on road signs is a good move too. JPJ tests already tell you to keep an eye out on every signs on a junction for better understanding.", "Follow the signs and arrows.", "The problem is the fact that unlike most of the other DDI in Malaysia (which are newly built interchanges, the one in Kajang is a retrofit (and not even a proper retrofit for that matter...) the point where they changed sides should.l have been brought further in a way that the only way it could go to the wrong side is by making slight inconvenient left hand turn", "Whoever come up with this shit should get in a car accident", "This dumbass commentor above me should time travel back to Bandar Baru Bangi and live with that traffic light.\nI study here, I used to call it the \"15 minutes traffic lights\". With this change, it's barely 5 minutes. It's genius and follows how the US does it.", "They got confused because they just blindly depend on muscle memory instead of using their eyes and brain to read the ample signboards placed at DDI to avoid confusion in the first place", "The roadway design is supposed to guide you into doing the right thing, even without reading the signs.\nApparently, it didn't work in this case.", "Diverging diamond works if you have a lot of that instead of just two or three areas.", "iirc the roads were channeled differently too back then right?", "I lived nearby, it helps a lot of the congestion here. Before, this intersection they can only go one lane at a time, after, two lanes at a time. Definitely better.\nBut I think the car in the video muscle memoried this intersection.", "good for locals + very dangerous for visitors = still count as bad design", "It's not dangerous if drivers would open their fucking eyes and follow directions.", "it’s proven to be better", "Whoever got confused must not pay attention while driving. There’s road markings to tell you which lane to go. It’s not that hard", "Better tell the French and Americans then!", "It minimized the congestion, but for those who are unfamiliar will easily get confused.", "like penang bridge @ federal hwy?", "Penang Bridge FH, Sungai Dua Penang IC, The lowest diamond interchange in Damansara Perdana, That Kajang interchange, and I think nearly half of Setia Alam highway diamond interchange.", "Missing some key road lines i think", "tbh this design is freakin stupid. a proper road network planning will not end up using this rule", "Why cant just make it straight. I don’t like such tiba2 USA direction🙄", "Would a roundabout be safer and just as effective?" ], [ "Here's how this design actually helps reduce congestion and reduce the opportunities for accidents.", "TIL, thanks!" ], [ "Looks like a diverging diamond interchange, no one was taught about how to navigate this." ], [ "Not just any car, a Lexus LC500 lol" ], [ "if youre at a confusing road then drive slowly..", "Or maybe use grab, because they definitely lack the brain power to follow simple road signs" ], [ "Oh this. The bangi flyover. And yes, whoever planned the road to be like that probably his mother dropped him hard and hit his head when he was a baby.", "It's called a diverging diamond interchange and it's supposed to reduce congestion and reduce the opportunities for accidents. However, it does take time for the population to learn about it and it should be included in driving school. It's proven to be effective across Europe and now the US.", "For anything worth, the intersection from Kajang side has decreased. So other than the awkward turning, its a boon.", "Interesting. So I guess in this case, the opposite driver wasn't paying attention and probably panicked then?\nWhen/where is this interchange style was first implemented here in MY in case you know?", "First introduced decades ago in PJ at the cable bridge flyover", "The problem is, I dont think theres any other roads in malaysia that use this. Yes, people can get used to it, if they often use that road. But those that used it for the 1st time will get confused. I was also 1 of those that almost got into a head on accident when they just changed it. I cursed 9 generation who made it like that.", "Setia Alam 2 main flyover junction uses this now. It drastically reduce the traffic jam. Love this concept but it can be confusing if its your first time and at night.", "Oh so that's what it was. I don't find it that confusing. Just follow the goddamn arrows.", "Got lots of roads la using. The main thing is as a driver you always need to be aware and follow signs. There are signs clearly denoting where to go. If you drive menonong mmg la jadi camni.", "When i said head on, it was not me. I was in the correct lane. The other driver the 1 that was wrong and drove straight towards me, just like what happened in the video.\nThe problem is, that road was not initially designed like that. It was just a normal flyover. They just changed it few years back. Which caused the confusion.", "Yea wasn’t referring to you specifically. The driver in the video clearly wasn’t paying attention to the signs, the lines on the road, the direction of other drivers etc. I’ve seen so many drivers these days with phones on their dashboard literally playing videos… it’s no wonder these things happen. Don’t blame the infrastructure.", "The design is meant to adapt old flyovers for better traffic flow .. there is no new flyover that have this lol", "Wrong. We’ve had that on the flyover at Federal Highway × LDP ages ago.", "You need to blame yourself .. really .. never driven in PJ or Puchong or Klang? Its already been for few years already mate", "Puchong Utama has one and nobody has any issue, Sunway intersection for Federal too, just read the signs and look at the fucking road markings", "It is confusing at first. But it improves the waiting time. We locals used to spend around 5 minutes for a single red light. Now the red light is barely 1 minute.", "Exactly! It looks stupid at first but god the wait time now is soooo much better", "You clearly have not played Sim City or Cities Skylines and it shows", "I think you the one that need to get your head checked… the diverging diamond is already used in PJ and Puchong for number of years already to reduce traffic.. you just out of boondocks?", "Nope. It has significantly made traffic move faster. It's reduced a lot of traffic. The area isn't well lit though. And that at night is troublesome.", "There are too many styupid decisions that waste money and create problems, but no one is going to take responsibility. Malaysian is too easy going with the takapa lah attitude.", "In reality it was your mother who dropped you when you were a baby. The interchange significantly cuts down traffic and wait time, and has had very few incidents since it first started.", "And how do you know had very few incidents? I had used that road a couple of times and had seen even in daylight a car almost accidentally entered the wrong lane and then reversed.\nThere are people here that said such intersection does exist. Sure, the 1 at setia alam is wide and was built with that kind of intersection. The angle of the road exiting the ramp is already designed for that kind of intersection. The 1 at federal from suway the road is wide and the ramp is not that steep. This bangi 1 to me is not suitable for that type of intersection. Because the flyover is just small and was not initially designed for this kind intersection.\nI believe its a catastrophe waiting to happen.", "People are stupid and accidents happen even on regular roads. People have driven wrong way on clearly marked highways in broad daylight. People don't use the right lanes in roundabouts. People go through red lights even though clearly red. People drive drunk even when they know of the risks. And many more. What's your excuse for those?\nThis kind of thinking is the same as Americans not liking roundabouts because they're not familiar with it.\nI literally use that intersection everyday, at least twice a day every day. Incidents have been extremely rare, let alone accidents.\nIf the intersection is so bad as you say, then there would've been protests/uproars considering it's a very high traffic area. But there hasn't aside from few complaints like yours.", "Maybe stupid people who can't follow the road signs and marking should just not drive entirely. Why need to dumb down proven road designs for stupid people? Avg people also need to suffer because of stupid people." ], [ "I pass by this everyday, only a moron would make such a mistake, just follow the damn arrows", "Exactly. People here complain about traffic. Give them a solution and still complain. For first timers, just follow other drivers. Even if you’re in front of the line, you can see where cars in the other junctions move to so you’d have an idea. Don’t play on your phone and have situational awareness.", "you don't even have to do that just follow the arrows man 😭😭😭 some people need their license revoked", "FR. i also used to drive here daily and am a bit on autopilot sometimes, but just need to lalu once and it clicked. I don’t get the comments saying we’re not educated for this — why is that needed? Don’t turn off your brain when driving pls!", "yeah, also if you started driving here years ago u remember how hellish the traffic was when it was a normal intersection. I love this design", "aku pun wonder. dia tak nampak eh line atas jalan? 🤔 (though in his defense [by me], tak sure maybe line faded or etc)", "sorry for my limited bahasa knowledge but I assume you're saying he couldn't tell the correct way?\nIt's actually almost impossible to Miss the right way unless you're speeding ( you shouldn't, there's literally traffic lights ) or you're drunk. There is a map in red about how to use the intersection at the traffic light and the arrows on the side and on the road itself is pretty clear.", "yep. he as in the opposite incoming car. cuz from the camera, the owner seems to follow the arrows on the road correctly. & agreed that the incoming car seems to be speeding too (or going a bit faster than cam owner). oh! didnt notice the map you mentioned, lemme go rewatch didnt see a map (maybe outta frame) but sure hell theres obvious no entry signs (from cam owners side but im expectin there should be some too from incoming cars side). thank God nothin happened though", "yup, more like a dumbass driver who speeds and don’t bother to see signboards or follow lines and arrows.", "Dude don't judge the driver like that..this road used to be regular way before it changed to diamond..maybe that person's last drive here is before the change..and it's night summore\nYour every day road may be once in a blue moon for some people", "Again, there are SEVERAL signs. One giant one before you even go into the intersection. It doesn’t matter how many times you’ve taken a road. Driver is clearly not paying attention and going quite fast some more. No one is to blame but the driver here.", "you pass by everyday so in ur mind u already know to navigate ma. normal for you doesn't mean normal for everybody else. outside visitor never know which junction are like this and will only follow muscle memory end up getting shocked. this is hazard for sure", "if you can't follow the arrows and signs on the road then you're the only hazard in this situation", "There are roadsigns and arrows pointing the correct directions, if they can't follow instructions, they shouldn't be driving.", "u first time driving here totally no confuse issit? not even slightly?", "If you encounter confusing signboard and instructions, drive slowly and follow the said signboard and instructions.", "i'm not local like u but what im saying is this design is flawed, non-intuitive. a bad design is a bad design. adding roadmark n signboards itself wouldnt change this fact and certainly won't make it became safer. that's what i am emphasizing. if you think this is safe then it's fine. i only believe safety improvement can be made.", "Someone have posted this in the replies somewhere. There is no problem with the design, the only problem is with the drivers that don't pay attention.\nhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?si=HfThQcJiD1fgm3sj&t=362&v=A0sM6xVAY-A&feature=youtu.be", "Who’s in the wrong?", "the opposite car, as you see towards the end of the video another car uses the road correctly too" ], [ "Video explaining diverging diamond https://youtu.be/A0sM6xVAY-A?si=gvyO1E-Ubj3hX5kc" ], [ "Confusing for people who don't pay attention on the road. There's a big ass signboard showing the designated lanes as you climb the flyover and they literally put indicators, small bumpers, bariers on the side to guide your lane. You literally have to go out of your way to drive on the other side.", "Exactly this. You can't miss it if you LOOK WHERE YOU ARE GOING.", "IMO they could do more with the signage and they should change the positioning of the traffic lights to make it much more obvious where you should be going. They also used much bigger barriers when the interchange was first converted. Those barriers were the temporary kind, but they should've replaced them with ones that were similar in size." ], [ "<image>\nI can see the issue is that the median didn't extend enough to prevent car from \"accidentally\" going to the wrong way. Seems to me there's enough space to extend the median (cyan line) as shown in the pic if done properly, if refer to the pics in wikipedia:\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diverging_diamond_interchange\n!Also big yellow median to alert drivers at the LDP interchange: https://www.google.com/maps/@3.0843387,101.613145,3a,75y,126.42h,83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0snZ8I4KlrXxiCJpXMouUg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu" ], [ "Just bad cornering practice. Eating into people’s lane." ], [ "So that car that came in was in the wrong if we just follow the arrows right?" ], [ "When the update breaks TM:PE :26557:" ], [ "Back then when im first time lalu this road, also went the opposite way. Thank god it's 3am at the morning, no on was there. Realize it when i used that road again, but this time its 12pm" ], [ "Like I'm sure there's enough stats and data on their side (hopefully lah) that they thought this is the best way to solve congestion issue here but oh god I would totally drive on the wrong side if I'm driving here for the first time." ], [ "If it's confusing, should drive a bit slower to understand the route.\nBut they just drive faster" ], [ "If I’m not miskaen, there are signs prior this intersection and arrows pointing to right direction. Maybe because new driver at night, so not that focused on signs and assume normal road. In daylight its quite clear." ], [ "that looks like a poorly designed Diverging Diamond Interchange." ], [ "Ah yes the diverging diamond intersection. Every beginner driver's worst nightmare. An intersection you do not wanna auto pilot on." ], [ "The change was recent like last year or two and people who didn't visit this area for a while will be confused as that example." ], [ "trust me the best will be a roundabout. but with a diverging diamond. we can push more cars trough with traffic lights focussed only on 2 roads. trust me i play cities skyline. this shit works. but this one abit too smol to work smoothly cos cars need to make sharp turns.", "Hahaha ganas mat pakai cities skyline", "kene ada kredibility XD", "Kena bawak burden of proof haha 🤣" ], [ "Tak fokus tu, terang2 ada papan tanda dan marking putih (tak luntur lagi) kereta nampak canggih pun masih pening.\nFyi, saya selalu guna jalan ni, sebelum laluan ni diubahsuai, trafik jam sangat teruk lepas ubahsuai trafik sangat lancar dan menjimatkan, nasib baik dua-dua tak pemandu ok." ], [ "Malaysian drivers do not have the IQ to handle this." ], [ "As a foreigner, the roads in Malaysia are very weird and confusing. I refuse to drive in this country due to a few close calls.", "If you can't follow instructions, then you shouldn't be driving." ], [ "I use this road everyday and still get confused" ], [ "The diamond road isn't a common thing in Malaysia. It's so rare most drivers won't see 2 of them. Users who never use it will often get confused.\nCause it isn't the first time the arrows on the road are fk up. If anyone who has traveled to KL from Seremban 2 will remember that awful crisscross arrows that overlap each other and confuse people to no end. There are many such fk up arrows too, such as old Pasir Gudang road, Batu Pahat, Melaka near the beach, Seremban especially.\nSo the first instinct of the driver is to stick to what is right for them. Not saying the road isn't effective, but it isn't widespread that it is known to all." ], [ "Wow. Road design like a game." ], [ "Blaring signs everywhere though not really confusing if you take signs seriously all the time" ], [ "With the video, i too feel confused with the road" ], [ "This looks like something that belongs to r/HostileArchitecture" ], [ "I don't even understand what's the purpose of this design and what are they trying to achieve. There are absolutely no reasons why it needs to be this complicated to begin with.\nNot even in city skyline we need this much creativity.", "this intersection before this was implemented was hell, waiting 7 minutes for the right to turn green every time, now it's down to 2 minutes maximum.", "It’s proven to be effective.\nAlso dumbass drivers exists even on normal roads.", "Diverging diamond interchange takes less space than a clover interchange and also costs less\nBut still shouldn't exist outside CS", "First time I heard of this. With just video alone I wouldn't know wtf is this design at all. Good to hear some proper jargon here that can lead me to some positive google search.", "Imagine thinking you know more about traffic management by playing a game instead of actual university courses." ], [ "As bad as the roundabout in pj ss3" ], [ "Below the old subway bridge also hell confusing....why not keep everything to their lanes? Which kepala otak came up with this tahi lembu design", "It's a well known design for reducing congestion, if the driver can't follow simple instructions, then it's the driver that is the tahi lembu." ], [ "What the heck? Who designed this road? This is worse than that tide control bullshit.", "You clearly have no idea about traffic management", "Of course, and I don’t care. It's confusing as shit. And considering our 'experts' inability to make accurate signs and indicators, I wouldn't trust that arrow on the ground. If you're a learned person making amenities for the public, it's your responsibility to make something that layman public can use easily instead of shok sendiri.\nKISS. Keep it simple, stupid. Left is go forward. Right is go backward. Stick to that and that alone. Instead of making roads that converge on one spot, make an overpass or underpass or provide alternative routes. Don't do this confusing bullshit.", "Clearly you're too angry to drive. Don't.", "Thank you, stranger on the net for giving me a free remote psychoanalysis evaluation from the comfort of your armchair. Truly appreciate you taking the time and effort to tap into the astral network for me." ], [ "Salah Apple Maps" ], [ "The first few times i used this road my heart rate was pumping like crazy thinking if i got the correct lane or not" ], [ "This intersection seems to go viral from time to time" ], [ "I think there is one similar bridge lane in some place in Puchong (I went there once only) and it confused me at first, but luckily it was in the morning and there were a lot of cars" ], [ "YOU LITERALLY HAVE ONE JOB meme comes to mind" ], [ "Tesla self driving engineer be like don't like that bro" ], [ "Fucking diverging diamond man. It's an effective design, but only to those who knows how it works. Had an experience exactly like yours at Puchong" ], [ "this road is one of a kind in terms of the way it was built. Might be confusing for first timers. its the road heading towards bandar baru bangi. i pass by there every week to play pingpong at a sports arena not far from that area. i hope that people slow down if they aren't so sure about where they are going." ], [ "Why the heck does this road still exists" ], [ "Almost a waste of a fine LC500" ], [ "This kind of junction is called the Diverging Diamond. Its actually really common in western countries. Its the drivers who are not used to this new type of junction and over-speeding thats causing the issue.", "Well it's not common here, not much point in talking what other countries do.", "There’s a point to implementing this kind of traffic junctions. It elevates traffic flow and allows the junction to accommodate higher volumes of traffic" ], [ "nah man that’s a Lexus LC500 that’s a rich man toy" ], [ "go to pj, i think on ss2 junction near housing area, more complicated junction" ], [ "WALAO, apa ni jalan?" ], [ "Is it ok if we publicly shame whoever thought this design is smart?" ], [ "I remembered it being a T junction until circa 2021. Why was it changed. Congestion ?" ], [ "Sadly Malaysian roads not properly planned and designed... Lots of copy ideas but not properly studied." ], [ "Ye ke? Been using this road many times no issue one. This road people know this road. Skill issue one la. Where got many accident here" ], [ "Is this the one near SG Ramal? It was quite confusing as previously the road direction was different, and I seldom use this route, thankfully there were cars ahead of me so I just follow them" ] ]

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[ [ "The dumb part is, it doesn’t net off from the solar usage. For example I use 1600kWh but my solar produces 1200kWh. The mother fuckers will charge me the 1600kWh including the reduction of the subsidy and THEN only net off my solar production. Mother fucker", "Need to 'help' gov spent some budget mah." ], [ "so ev car sales killed just as it’s catching popularity?" ], [ "video set to private." ] ]

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[ [ "Anyways it's a sad story." ], [ "according to chinese news more fact reveal that she have a child and a boyfriend...", "", "How did she scam him?", "no one can say for sure, but as a guy, i know how some girls can exploit a guy. treat them nice. act manja.\nif a guy likes you, whether you're married or not, they can become super simps. treating you meals. gifts. etc.\nif scam doesnt seem an appropriate word, exploit would be better.", "Some real incel views you have there.", "lol it is how it is. incel or not. anyone remember bout the rm 460 burger girl?\nyou dont remember?\nlol get of your high horse.\ni am close friends with many girls. many choose to hide their relationship status to new people. on surface level its their right and their privacy. but some take a step further. getting them to treat them expensive meals etc.\nheck this even happens in dating apps. theres even a term coined up. \"foodiecall\".\non top of that some girls are actually PAID to scam dates by getting their dates to bring them to an overpriced bar that serves by the bottle. TWO of my friends fell for this.\ni m all up for respecting women but there are objective ugly truths about the way things are in real life.\nnot all men are saints. not all women are either. for you to call out a truth as an incel view, i guess i triggered you lol.", "For me it’s tinder, she sets date at a club. I tried to open bottles in order to get a table inside. Turns out she’s one of the club ambassador lol", "U n my friends bro. I feel you", "How that incel views when this is a fact. If men/women like a women of a dude, they gonna treat the other better. Making it easier to exploit if you willing to.\nI have seen it happen on both gender.", "Focusing on the fact that some guys go overboard to impress women, and how women don tend to refuse, instead on focusing on the woman that has been STABBED. That's some real incel shit.", "We just state general fact. Its you who insult people with incel this incel that.\nMaybe u should cool down a bit.", "I just read yesterday the story summary into\nShe work as singer in johor bar somewhere and got 1 fan admire her for 2 years and somehow along the way happen and the man decide to stab her, i leave the imagination up to you.\nPlus having bf and child make it confirmed that she is desperate for money.", "You left out the info that she have rejected the man multiple time in these 2 years and only agree to meet him recently, maybe because she is going to get married and want to sort things out? I think it is a dumb move tho, these type of guy always is the violence type that can't accept rejection.\nAnyway you guys jump immediately to assume the worst of the women, seems super bias. Can't help but notice that recently r/malaysia and r/bolehland is full of misogynistic posts and comments." ], [ "Just a regular Monday in Klang", "Alot of stabbing cases there? (Genuine question)", "No idea. It’s a meme that Klang is the ghetto of Malaysia" ], [ "I'll be honest, the title trip me up a little. Its as if a stabbing at a restaurant happen, the admirer then drove her home to safety, THEN he killed her.\nJust me? Or maybe because its 2am right now. I should go to sleep.", "It's because the case is a bit weird\nDude brought her to dinner\nStabbed her\nThen drove her (body) home", "Lunch. Her eye lash appointment was at 2. Lunch with him at 1", "The guy tried to suicide by stabbing himself too but failed.", "To me, I think he stabbed her in the restaurant, then drove her home with her fully agreeing to it." ], [ "Oshi no Ko Malaysia version.\nToo soon?", "weebs try to be normal challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)", "Yikes 💀", "Too soon, man", "you don't have to compare a real life killing with a fucking anime you twat", "This anime actually takes reference to real life scenario.\n“Life imitates art far more than art imitates life” - Oscar Wilde", "and everything still doesn't need to be compared to anime.", "Queue Mephisto ED", "r/oshinoko", "Here's a sneak peek of /r/OshiNoKo using the top posts of the year!\n#1: Ai meeting Akane (by: ふに・無9) | 186 comments\n#2: Kana or Akane (by: Feca) | 260 comments\n#3: Literally the same | 172 comments\nI'm a bot, beep boop | Downvote to remove | Contact | Info | Opt-out | GitHub" ], [ "Why msia is all bad news....", "Bad news catches your attention. Good news doesn't generate enough click.", "fear mongering works better than good news, because good news equals nothing to worry about", "Because there is always bad news, the thing that made it difference is how much the story were told" ], [ "Live near the place, tempat tu memang agak jenayah sikit, samalah area Bukit Tinggi 2" ], [ "Sounds the girl has been leading the guy on for 2 years while the guy lies about his job. The girl also in a relationship with another guy.\nThe murderer is definitely going to pay for his crimes but this girl isn't some saint either.", "Blame not the victim for the crime against them, blame the criminal who did the deed. This is the exact same mentality as blaming rape victim for how they dressed or act that got them raped instead of blaming the rapist for raping.\nMurder is still murder.", "Blame not the victim for the crime against them, blame the criminal who did the deed. This is the exact same mentality as blaming rape victim for how they dressed or act that got them raped instead of blaming the rapist for raping.\nThe girl is not some innocent rape victim. She lead the guy on for 2 years despite having a bf. Learn to understand the differences and don't make apple to oranges comparison.\nMurder is still murder.\nDuh? Who said murder not murder. Another brainless statement coming out from Mr Preacher.", "Eh. Hard to say leh. From what I heard from gals who experienced these kind of things (minus the murder) is that sometimes they think they are just friends, oblivious that the other party is interested in them romantically - until the guy confesses or some shit. The guys dunno what to do, but ikut perasaan, so they just hang around the girl, being friends, hoping for a chance down the line. If this girl is having lunch with him and even informed the bf about it, could be they memang friends. Or at least she thinks they were.\nNot saying this is the case here. But kinda disingenuous to say the girl is leading the dude on when we donno the full story.\nEdit: another reason. Girls are quite intuitive, so this gal might know the guy is into her, but genuinely enjoys the friendship, just that she had to set boundaries. But the guy tahan je, still thinking there’s a chance. Tak tau la, issue here is very complex.", "I just quoting from the article. If you got other sources, then please share. I don't want to speculate.", "What was the guy’s job? Sad ending tbh. I read that the girl is about to get married next year with current bf after taking their wedding photos this year.", "Fruit seller.", "Just so you know. I don’t think you’re wrong. The members of this subreddit can be dumbasses sometimes. I kinda stopped reasoning with the redditors here and it made my life much better.", "Reasoning with strangers? Imagine that." ], [ "Admirer can't admire anymore", "Unfortunately, admirer probably believes if he can't have her, nobody can" ], [ "Singer stabbed by admirer, then drove the body home." ] ]

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[ [ "I mean, he did that in his office, during a meeting….\nYou wanna walk around topless, wanna urut here and there go ahead but doing that in a professional setting just because you’re the ‘boss’? I don’t think he’d be happy if his office workers/flight attendants/FAs/Captains does the same stunt. There’s a time and place for everything. He’s also somewhat a public figure so of course it’s gonna make news.\nEdit: I’m gonna go ahead and say, even if you’re ‘hot’, it’s still inappropriate.", "Honestly Tony should let his PR team control his social media accounts, he probably thought it is alright since Richard Branson had a business meeting topless before him, but the key difference is that Branson isn't obese\nEither way, he'd definitely still be grilled even if he went topless for a cosplay, point being he is fat and the unfortunate fact is that it is easier to fat shame anyone online especially anonymously", "I personally don’t see it that way, to me it’s a tasteless senseless behaviour of a person, but unfortunately you are correct, most people hate to see it just because he’s not visually appealing and it’s just easier to critique the physique." ], [ "I was thinking of replying to his LinkedIn and asking if it’s ok if one of his execs gets a massage in the office, during office time, topless", "To save face he probably say it is okay and he does not mind" ], [ "If you are hot and handsome,then it's fine. But when you are a fat ass hypocrite, you had cross the line.", "this" ], [ "U mean... he went to a cosplay event n purposely find a topless cosplayer so that he can take a photo to whine abt this? How brain dead is this guy", "Personally, I think he is just memeing about it" ], [ "Domain Expansion: Controversial marketing campaigns", "Gotta get that bad clout for marketing purposes" ], [ "Sukuna cosplayer's IG: _mi.axw" ], [ "Refund mn" ], [ "Berapa kali nak cakap? Kau sado, kau hensem, semua boleh. Kau gemuk, badak air, sila berambus dari pandangan." ], [ "The cool dude ceo gimmick is getting old Tony. Just stop.\nTone deaf tony" ], [ "Shit! I don't care if he's richer than god. I don't wanna see his floppy mantits :26556:" ], [ "I mean it's the king of curses, who are we to judge his appearance." ], [ "Cause bro you ain’t cosplaying anyone, you are in an office." ], [ "I need lots of Eyemo to wash my eyes...." ], [ "I can't cosplay as Sukuna but shiiit, I can cosplay as Tony Fernandes." ], [ "TF attending comic festia omg" ], [ "Imagine taking cosplay and nutrition seriously for most of your adult life and your most famous moment was Tony F referring to his own moobs for lulz." ], [ "one is sukuna with the power to end the world. the other......." ], [ "Eh to be honest if I’m an AA employee, if he’s shirtless I don’t mind if the video is just showing his face. If it’s showing his mantits theeeeeeen yeah I will minimize the video lmao." ], [ "Okay what is that sukuna ig? Help" ], [ "Dumb rich people with dumb facts." ] ]

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[ [ "Make sure they are no kill shelters" ], [ "10 cats is way too many , if it was 1-2 it would be fine . I hope you find a good solution. Good luck", "Aye, as much as you love your cats, having ten is probably way over the acceptable limits unless if you live in a very large plot of land with no neighbours around you. Or be very rich and can afford extra care - my corner lot neighbour probably has what seven dogs of various sizes but no one complains as he keeps them within his house and compound with two maids who literally seem to do nothing but take care of his fur kids and has a mobile pet grooming van over every weekend.", "Yeah exactly. We have to be considerate to our neighbors as well .", "yup agree . that is why I make this hard decision..." ], [ "That is sad! I cannot imagine parting from my cats. You can post your cats on Petfinder so that any potential adopters can find them there. I hope you will be able to spend the remaining time you have with them with love and care.", "thank you... it is sad.. but for their sake i have to..." ], [ "I'm sorry to hear about this! Did you move into a PPR or rumah WIP?\nSpay the remaining females and post them on pet finder.", "nope.i bought an apartmen. yeah will do later...thank you for your suggestion", "Then bawa bincang with DBKl if they come to their door. Key is not to let them in! They cannot enter private property. They can only rampas from PPR, rumah WIP", "eh yeke.. because last time i was told there will be rampasan", "Only on public property. If private, as long as you don't let them in, then ok, because it's trespassing. They can fine, send surat, warning, that one all legal." ], [ "Pls join facebook groups for adoption in your area. Hope they got a nice furrever home" ], [ "You can try asking for help in local FB groups for your area or Beli Nothing Project groups. There might be kind souls in there who would adopt or point you in the right direction. Additionally take cute pics of the cats and put it up on Petfinder website. It is active and cats often get adopted there.", "is it safe on petfinder websites...?" ], [ "", "With this attitude, you’re not even fit to care for a mice. You’d probably be abusing them when no one is watching." ], [ "Do you have to give them all away? That is terrible. Can you plead your case?\nAt my place, there's two families that keep cats. A took care of their litter box twice a day and kept their cats in their property. B doesn't take very good care of their cats so the smell is terrible and maintenance refuses to go to their house because of the overwhelming cat stench and their stokin will be full of cat hairs by the time they are done.\nI'm not saying you are like B, but maybe that was the real issue?", "during discussion with the council, it is because of the unpleasant smell coming from my house. but after the discussion i met the maintenance guy and asked to check on my house and he said my house ok. later my neigbour moved out. i was wondering is it because of me?\nand lately the cat issues is stirring up at whatsapp group eventhough it is not related to my house i feel so anxious n sometimes i couldnt sleep for the entire night and i think it is worse. my mom worry about me n she is the one came up with the idea to let the babies go.", "Sometimes you can have an asshole neighbour also. We have that one too, always complaining and driving maintenance crazy (Im friends with the maintenance team).\nI understand that for some people cats are more than pets. Get rid of the smell problems and ask the council to review your case. I would be heartbroken too if I had to part with people I love.", "ermm i think it is enough.. ive cried a lot since the last time i met with the city council..6-7 months past..tht is y my mom worried bout me. i just shared the prob i had with my mom last week. so to be away from the babies is breaking my heart but i hv to take care of myself n respect my mom decision.", "hugs i wish they will all find a good home and you'll be okay." ], [ "What’s this pet finder you guys are talking about?" ], [ "," ] ]

[ "Wholesome" ]

[ [ "He did not pay the rent for a year. He pays for a year’s worth of unpaid rent.", "Yup, the keyword here is 'unpaid rent'. Guess what's gonna happen after a few months?" ], [ "So an asshole did a lot of bad things, when he done something good (which likely a publicity stunt), suddenly he's a saint now? lol", "One good deed is not enough to redeem a man of a lifetime of wickedness\n- Pirates of the Caribbean\nStill, props to him to support the community", "Though it seems enough to condemn him\nYeah", "sounds like all the politicians who have memoirs published. 🤷‍♂️", "Last time he even helped yang bao bei who has scammed a lot of people for money. This guy is basically an attention seeker", "Who is he. I don't know him.\nFor me, he's just a Samaritan, until I saw your post.", "Read other replies in this post.", "That’s how the cartel works." ], [ "Le dude a scammer?\nI have no evidence.", "He sells Chinese tablet medicine for few thousand ringgit. U tell me if its a scam.", "I sell special water that if you have fever and you drink it, you’ll be better after a few days.", "Also known as coconut water", "Reminds me of air suci during covid period.\nAnd someone sold cow piss in India.", "its actually organic filtered blood bi-product(essence )that's from a special breed of virgin mini tigers.", "Did he sell them as supplements? Supplements are not medicine. Everyone knows that, if not, Darwin's award. Why is TCM called TCM? Because it's not actually medicine and not double blind tested. Anyone who claims and sells TCM as a cure is illegal btw. 🤷‍♂️ Anyways, Darwin's awards for people somehow didn't care enough to research their illness and treatment with a medical professional. I don't think buddy is a scammer in legal definition. Also you all know the type of people who can afford all these magic supplements but refuses scientific medicine. Few of my family members have cancer and I would honestly say they deserve failed treatment if they believes sawdust supplements would be the cure. what you are saying is like saying people who sell oil additives are scammers if the people who believes additives could fix a failed engines. Oil additives might help maybe we don't know but hey it's your money.\nfuck this guy but he isn't a scammer and if he is report him to MMA.", "report him to the MMA", "bing Malaysia MMA..😉 Malaya M edicial associati o n?", "The problem of livestream selling is, for example, i promote and sell you guys Ferrari Watches.\nI didn't name them the Original Ferrari Watch, nor mention them as counterfeit.\nI legit intended to scam legally.\nAnother trick can be,\nI brand my product as \"Original Ferrari\".", "legit scam legally... so basically buyer beware? Either way.. if people who risks their health by non double blind tested med.. 🤷‍♂️ less stress on the health system. my wife found out she has stage 4 cancer once she arrived at the hospital and her dad was saying shit to the medical team that they were probably too young and asked my wife to not go through operation when they said it's the plan of action. He asked her to wait so some sifu can see her a week later from vacation..\nShe called buddy out of respect to her dad for advice and scammer basically couldn't provide ingredients and when she asked about how it works he said \" It will work if you don't think so don't take it .\"\nWe didn't take it and her dad and family gives us shit for embarrassing them...", "How uncompassionate you are. People who do know better should be educated so that they make the right decisions. You have taken the easy path of bashing them instead educating them. A righteous person should be protecting the ignorant but here you are doing the opposite and leaving them to suffer. Your comment is only spreading hate", "Dude.. see a health care professional when sick. If someone risks their life on untested snake oil, we should protect them? There are 1rm clinics for those with low income. They purposely avoided modern medicine and we should cry. 🤷‍♂️ Would you feel sad if anti vaxxers got COVID?", "Everyone has a smartphone nowadays. Google is a swipe away. No one has an excuse to be ignorant anymore.", "Awareness, education, upbringing and desperation.\nThe Influencer or Dato title comes in use too!", "her brother said .. High Risk high return. So I just replied with so... gambling with her life? He stfu pretty quick. We are not friends anymore.", "Does it work? If it does, probably not a scam", "placebos do have a track record of working sometimes.", "it’s not. It’s bezoar and doesn’t work", "Hey hey hey if it weren't for him taxing idiots their money, he wouldn't have the money to help good people bro.", "Fuck, i was like \"What a nice guy\", until I clicked into the image and it's Sunny fucking Coco.", "Oh no wonder the face looks familiar.", "24 gang taiko" ], [ "What he did is good. I respect that. But, I think its better for him to use that money to help the owner open a shop elsewhere with more people because as the article said, theres not many customers anymore due to the bus no longer stops there.", "Its a publicity stunt. Guy just finding some reason to gain publicity. The story makes 0 sense whatsoever.", "You are welcome to pay my rent for a year and post it all over social media, and i wont even judge you <3" ], [ "bla bla. post some charity online then scam netizens few thousands for fake powder. karma will bite him" ], [ "This guy is Sunny Coco.", "Who is he exactly btw? I only know sunny leone.", "A dude who got famous by shouting at people from FB live, he sell stuff too..", "Can give me link?", "Just search sunny coco in FB, there's should bunch of info bout him and his page" ], [ "While he did a good deed, its just makes no sense. The business owe rent for 1 year and the owner want to vacate them. That's the right of the owner. But according to this guy, the owner can't do that, cannot find renters willing to pay higher must continue renting to the renter who never paid rent for a year.\nReally insane logic. And then claims he can pay their 1 year rent why government cannot pay for them?", "Because it doesn't actually matter to him, his main goal is online clout. There are people who do good deeds and just quietly try to help and solve people's problems. Then there are those who are, while helping, constantly thinking about \"how can I post about this to make me look good?\"", "I am just pointing out how ridiculous his logic is." ], [ "Sunny Coco", "uwaa samseng rupanya", "Some of the money got to good use i guess =D" ], [ "Never thought I’ll be seeing the term of generous man is used to describe him LMAO. This man’s one of the worst terrible influencer, rude, arrogant, scammy, name any single negative attribute and it will instantly fit him." ], [ "how sustainable is this I wonder.", "For his PR. Very sustainable. The business? Still going to die. Can't find customers", "Yeah a RM 1,000 a month subscription to nasi lemak might be a bit much.", "Exactly" ], [ "As a nasi lemak enthusiast, I understand his action. I’ve been abroad for 5 years for my studies, and I’m sad to find out that the nasi lemak makcik that my dad used to go is no longer there. My family has been a loyal customer for a decade. Dia masak nasi lemak sedap. :(" ], [ "For more backstory of this guy, if you know yang bao bei who has scammed a lot of people for money and even IC, this guy even “rewarded” her for her lessons learned. Yes, this guy is just an attention whore. If you do something good, you dont have to post it for publicity stunt.", "He probably get free fcks from her too for his help" ], [ "Simp\nI wish I could pay my crush's rent so her nasi lemak will always be available for me too", "bro", "Credit card", "☠️☠️", "You can pass me the location. i can do it instead.", "Nasi lemak janda" ], [ "Ugh, have seen this guy on socmed being a shit-stirrer and attention-seeker." ], [ "Some heroes love Nasi Lemak." ], [ "He just want good nasi lemak supply XD what's wrong with that XD" ], [ "oh this guy." ], [ "Lul this guy is quite controversial. But, this kindness should be appreciated." ], [ "Don't mess with a man's food." ], [ "some heroes wear capes. some heroes love nasi lemak" ], [ "This sub is so toxic. Full of envious people or people who got shit in their lunch. A wholesome post turns into a shit show.", "Read the other comments to see the bigger picture. With his character and history, he's obviously only using this for his own online clout. There's nothing envious about that.\nOn the landlord's part, to only take action after 1 year of unpaid rent is already considered very kind. Most would kick you out by the third missed month, even banks would've started harassing if you missed 1-2 months house loan.\nThe aggro words saying will marah already hints something amiss about his character.", "I'm not trying to be rude but spare me the headache from reading \"trust me bros\". Anyway, cheers.", "reading \"trust me bros\"\nFair play if you don't wanna believe what people say, but you can always search about him before you jump to conclusions. Cheers to you.", "Now I've got time to read about him, I understand where these \"negative\" comments coming from. He is or was a member of kongsi gelap, aiyooo.\nI apologize for my ignorance. Turned out I was toxic too.\nBut I do still think good deeds should be given credit appropriately regardless of people past, and we can criticise their bad deeds too.\nGoodnight everyone.", "I was honestly quite happy to see a wholesome story, until I found out it's this guy. Regardless of one's past, sure, if he has changed. Hopefully so." ], [ "I love him, I will give his a head every malam rabu sebab jadual kuliah rabu kosong" ], [ "Lolz. 😂 Before social media, there was absolutely no way of knowing how many people around you that you’d want absolutely nothing to do with." ], [ "Brownie points publicity" ], [ "His hairline is immaculate" ], [ "inb4 ini semua agenda ***" ], [ "I think there is something deeper to question in this. Is her business doing well? Receipe lari rasa? Or maybe s9meone fell ill and having money problems. If all is well, her cash flow would be willing to pay rent." ], [ "1 malaysia" ] ]

[ "Politics" ]

[ [ "You mean serving their Islamic Follower and Ban literally everything which aren't their interest?", "Anwar did more in 1 year than PAS did in 33 months\nPH in all their wisdom even went so far as to provoke PAS to make them even more islam(see PKR asking PAS why they didn't ban the Thai concert in a temple)", "That damned \"malaysia is progressive islamic nation\".", "I mean they did none of that when they were in government anyway. So let's just put them in government for them to do nothing again. Ez." ], [ "Don't think having Pastard in govt is a good idea. All they do is blame Dap." ], [ "Maybe they should be your fucking opposition:\nhttps://says.com/my/news/muhyiddin-claims-jews-christians-are-working-together-with-ph-to-christianise-malaysia\nMaybe they espouse a very dangerous, terrorist-type mentality.\nWhy do I bother? PMX agrees with AMANAH, 100%." ], [ "Sorry bossku.. lebih suka tebuk atap." ], [ "We don't need radical bigoted islamist in the government unless you want them to ban every single thing that makes this country a multicultural and multi faith country" ] ]

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[ [ "i mean, considering that 90% of matriculation are bumis, and almost all foundations are 100% bumis, this seems somewhat logical. Besides, more half of IPTA students are enrolled in UiTM, so that's another factor", "I think that prompts the discussion of whether it’s right to enforce that foundation programs in public universities are exclusive to bumis.", "its a tough question tbh. I feel like its unfair to have bumi only foundations because it makes it easier for some people compared to others, just because of race alone. But at the same time, I can understand why that's the case. In UM, even with all these things, bumis still tend to be a minority, which says a lot", "I didn’t know bumis are minority in UM", "i know, i was shocked too. The only bumis here are basically UM's asasi students. 90% of matrics students here are chinese", "What I'm interested to know is what the stats are if UiTM is excluded. Meaning what the racial composition is like for regular public uni.", "Shh. We don't discuss about logic here.", "What logic?\nMatrikulasi has clear racial quota for 90% malays.\nMatrikulasi also takes the highest priority when allocating for public U.\nhence you get 80%+ racial quota in the public U.\nThere's your racial quota logic.", "Apparently you haven't read all comments here especially the comments I'm replying. Smh", "which comment are you referring to?", "Im not sure if UiTM is even included in the stats.\n\"Kemasukan pelajar warganegara bagi program yang terbuka kepada semua....\"", "maybe, but i doubt it. They probably just said that to look good or something", "it really depends. Im in UM, and bumis are funnily the minority here" ], [ "I wonder what's the figure if UiTM is excluded, as that alone is 1/3 of all enrollment. Are the remaining IPTAs more balanced?", "Well, I'm currently in UMS and it's certainly more balanced although obviously there is still majority bumiputera.", "It makes sense for UMS to have more Bumi and it should be drastically more Bumi due to the demographics of Sabah LoL", "Hence why i said obviously. The point is tho, the number overall is high since there's UiTM. The other public unis don't have that high of a percentage based on what I observe.", "Using your assumption, you can calc it out\n18:82 ratio becomes 18:49 ratio, or around 27% nons.\nWhich sounds bout right along the demographics ratio.. roughly 30% nons", "Adding to this is the impression that many non-bumi who never applied to begin with thinking that they won't ever get it.\nMy SPM year only five of us out of roughly 100 non-bumi students enrolled for Form 6.", "Same here. To be honest, there were a lot of people in my class who were good enough to get into public (even with the limited quota) if they had decided to take form 6 and go down that path but decided not to. Actually, the issue nowadays is with not being able to get into top 5 unis rather than not getting in at all. I have a relative who teaches at unimas and there are a surprising number of non-bumi students with relatively low stpm cgpa in her class." ], [ "Giving opportunities to idiots that score less than 3As in SPM while talents suffered", "3As is too generous.\nI knew someone from my secondary school who got into IPTA with only 1A.", "One of my classmates never read a page of any school book or did any homework. He came to school to be a bully and socialize/smoke. Obviously he scored horribly in SPM and when collecting his cert still proudly announced that he wanted to become a pilot. Given how the system is set up I think he eventually did - and now unsuspecting passengers are likely flown by someone who did not even make an effort to learn high school math.", "Honestly, I think it's a waste.\nWhen interview, it will come out.\nIf not capable, no matter how, won't last long", "Don't underestimate cables and generosity of GLC and public service. Quota system is there to take them in even they failed.", "Can just hire them even without degree. Skip all the trouble", "To be honest with u…. All of my classmates scored at least 5As in Spm to be enrolled in my class in Uitm…. Me myself i scored 7As but yeah, you do you…." ], [ "In other news, water is wet.", "Fire is hot", "Human died if they are killed", "LMAO. Long time I haven’t heard this" ], [ "Where's meritocracy?", "Meritocracy doesn't exist here since 1957. Anymore questions ?", "Not like upper corporate or MNC rushing to hire these gomen unis, many of them are doing grab and whatnot..", "GLCs are tasked to hire them. They have a quota to fulfil in hiring them as proteges every year.", "How many protégés so you think GLC can absorb? You know we have hundreds of thousands of graduates from public uni accumulated over a couple of years and people don't exactly resign en masse to make way for them every year right? Why do you think so many of them menganggur and do odd jobs? Why so many grab riders exist?", "Proteges are not meant to replace existing work staff. The GLCs are given a task to give them a headstart in their career by giving them a job for a period of time, whether they get accepted as permanent staff or not is up to their capabilities and attitude. The point is, these people get spoon-feed all the way up to that point. My experience with these grads are usually a miss, sometimes you get very good ones, most of the times you get lousy ones who expects everything to be spoonfed to them.", "Why don't MNCs hire from public universities?", "Nowadays gomen uni grant students based on race and skin colour instead of merits, so if you are a boss, do you want to hire staff with unknown qualities or because of merit? Hiring from gomen uni is like gambling with odds against you, I'm not saying hiring elsewhere is guaranteed to be good, but the odds are much better than public uni which has guaranteed 80% odds against you... Even genting don't have odds that bad against you...", "Lol ouch.", "<image>" ], [ "lol. new to Malaysia?", "I always find it amusing when I read replies to comments like yours. Instead of proving other people wrong, they insist on reinforcing the public notion that they're fucking inept by resorting to ad hominem attacks and patronizing others for objecting to systemic racism.\nThe fact that they elect to be complacent, complain and blame others for their socioeconomic hardships instead of attempting to improve themselves tells you that the nation will never progress.", "i tell u this. as long as Perkara 153 is in our Perlembagaan, racial hatred will never stop.\nchinese, indians, and everyone Malaysian should have the same right as every Bumiputera. nobody should be discriminated by their skin colour. Even in ISLAM they teach this. u think our founding fathers care? they just signed shit with British, shit that would benefit them, and them only.\nour country is indeed racist as fuck and it would never change for at least another 40 years, or 2 whole generations.\nyour thoughts?", "That's true, unfortunately. Racial discrimination is a fundamental part of the founding of this country ; the very essence of the nation's identity. When you have a system that revolves around prejudice as the backbone of your society, it's not far fetched to assume that the minorities (including the Bumiputera Christians in Sabah & Sarawak) will always take the back seat.\nBy no means am I complaining about the reality, I'm merely pointing out what is evident. Of course, they'll deny this and attack me by employing red herring fallacies just so the narrative fits their agenda - as always and as expected.\nThere is no logical argument with the likes of them because their piss-poor justification will lose credibility & validity every single time, as evinced by the deleted remark in response to yours. Those who question injustice will always be labelled as racist/ungrateful/undeserving citizens.\nThis topic is a conversation that they're unprepared for ; a contention that they'll never have an answer to.", "Honestly bad take.\nThere is legit reason why these policies exist and these policies exist in almost every developed nation.\nThe rare difference is that in Malaysia the minority tended to have it better than the majority leading to the policies being more visible.\nAffirmative action is great and addresses the colonial injustice committed. The fact we also don’t realise that Bumi are made out of a large community of over 100+ indigenous ethnicity who faced their own issues and have different levels of injustice committed against them is another problem.\nBy ignoring to give them their deserved compensation we fail to bring justice.\nFor Malaysia to progress affirmative action needs to continue and reform to eliminate rich bumi who can continue to benefit and provide an additional support for poor people of all races without hampering bumi rights.\nMany bumi also do not get access to affirmative action in full due to complications involving administrative issue making it difficult for many to truly be uplifted.\nDemographics wise bumi are about 70%+ of the population making it make sense they make a large majority of the intakes.\nConsidering they are the largest group that is the poorest the affirmative action is doing the right thing.\nYes Islam teaches equality, it also teaches justice. Affirmative action is a form of justice and other groups affected extremely negatively by colonial issue should also receive affirmative action.\nAffirmative action works and here are example of countries with the same policy as Malaysia: Australia, New Zealand, America, Canada, United Kingdom, Sweden, France, Indonesia, Japan (beginning), Singapore (beginning), Russia, China, India, Taiwan, Denmark, Finland,Romania, Serbia, Brazil (beginning) and Iran.\nRegardless if it’s the minority or majority it’s justice that needs to be provided to them and should always be.", "Woah. Which book i should start reading to learn about this stuff.", "People that try hard to improve themselves end up in foreign countries.\nAs long as the constitution is racist, Malaysia will keep leaking talents", "You realise they will go to countries with the same policies but ignore it there?\nIt’s a global south vs north issue that affects talent leaving nothing to really do with the affirmative action.\nEg: me studying overseas and getting a job that pays way higher. Issue was never about Malaysia laws etc neither local laws (same policies), it’s always been about pay and development in the majority of cases.\nHence global south and north issue is one of the biggest talking points in recent times.", "Provokasi saja bangsa ni, tambah² dalam sub ni", "", "Sudah migrate pun. See u later", "Good riddance.", "Ofcourse you'd say good riddance. You. Cannot. Compete.", "Son, I have lived and worked in Japan since you were still suckling milk. I came back because I love this country more. Competing with you guys is a piece of cake.\nThe only reason I got downvoted to oblivion just because I typed “good riddance” is because you all thought people would beg you to come back LMAO. Guess what? Nobody cares. Nothing of value was lost when you left.", "dreaming that you got isekai'd doesn't count bruh", "You must be a senior exec sitting and typing on Reddit during the day.", "We have to migrate because you're too incompetent to compete on merit?", "Dah migrate boss. Manyak kawan bumi pun yang migrate sama ke Australia", "Australia has the same laws as Malaysia. It’s always been about pay never about the affirmative action lol", "Australians have a constitutional item that gives a majority race affirmative action? Upvoted, good sir. Tell us all about it.", "Australia has passed legal laws recognising indigenous Australian and providing them with affirmative action.\nAustralia doesn’t care whether the victims are majority or minority of the population but implement affirmative action based on the injustice done against the group.\nWomen who compromise the large majority of the population has also in the past few decades received large amount of affirmative action.\nAustralia has also began passing increasing amount of laws and only failed a recent referendum (older age demographics) in making it a national constitutional law that any law passed must be approved by the indigenous community.\nThe fact that young voters and more educated voters have began en mass voting for it is a huge step forward for a country that until the 1990s had state enforced kidnappings of aboriginal children.", "So... Laws to help a minority indigenous population that has worse outcomes in terms of health, education, economics? Thank you.\nAnd women, who disproportionately occupy lower paying jobs in Australia? Benefits for economic inequality, I can get behind that.\nBut you were about to tell us about a majority race in Australia that holds political and economic power AND still has affirmative action policies that benefit them? I'm waiting.", "Australia again never cared about the majority or minority as I said it has always been about injustice faced in different communities.\nThe fact that affirmative action has greatly helped the indigenous people of Malaysia who depending on ethnic group were enslaved or segregated etc and faced many issues etc by allowing them to move towards the middle income group is a testament to its success.\nYou are mad because you can’t accept the reality that some ethnic groups benefited from colonial policies that caused affirmative action in the first place.\nRather than wanting to fight for affirmative action and fight for the introduction of universal care for poor people and integration of immigrant based communities to indigenous culture etc you wish to fight for the opposite which is far from any progress.\nInjustice is solved by justice and because you see that justice as unfair does not mean it is unfair." ], [ "I'm curious. Where will most non-bumi go if this route is not possible to continue with study? What's their options?", "MLM, real estate, insurance agent. Been popping up like crazy recently", "Sell VCDs", "For poor non bumi who cannot afford tuisyen fees for uni? They work. Save up enough money or get sponsored by their companies is the alternate route.", "damn. that is sad. is it really always the case? no help at all from the government?", "if you can get PTPTN, sure, go private, otherwise no", "Is it even possible to fail to get PTPTN loan?\nI feel like if even PTPTN doesn't give you loan, you are really not cut out for uni.", "PTPTN was approved based on household income, if you live in Selangor/KL, RM4k isn’t really enough for 3-4 kids, but PTPTN will only loan you 75% tuition fees, so you still have to pay for the remaining 25%, plus you have to take into account food and accommodation too, or worse, if you’re from little kampung with no money, so what if you get 100% loan, you don’t have money to feed yourself even", "But that's just the person getting less amount because their parents are more well-to-do. Your chance of getting a PTPTN loan is still 100% (at least I've never heard people failing to get one).\nUltimately if someone realize they can't afford to go uni, 99% of the time the fault lies in their parents' financial planning. Gov is already covering 75% of your 4-year study loan; you just have to suck it up and go work part-time.", "yes what I meant by getting a PTPTN, is getting enough loan to cover your expenses, not literally JUST getting approved. Is it really the parents’ fault for being poor?", "not literally JUST getting approved\nWould be good if you edit in this disclaimer in your initial comment then.\nIs it really the parents’ fault for being poor?\nBeing poor isn't a fault. But you don't get to blame the government when your kids can't go to uni. Tertiary education is already ridiculously cheap here.\nEither raise your kid so they can excel without a degree (e.g. sales, vocational stuff, etc) or start preparing the education fund when they're young.", "guess that’s not the case for the Malays when you can literally get in Matrikulasi with 2As", "Get fucked", "Balik tongsan /s", "UTAR.", "If they're gunning for popular courses, then they'll either need to be super good or go private.\nOtherwise public uni is fine. Did my science comp degree in UPM and there's so many potatoes that there's a good chance good students will get a spot.", "Top scorers would opt for scholarship, go aboard never look back, give alot of contributions to otber countries and get called pengkhianat by Malaysians or some go with IPTS with a scholarship, then braindrain continues to happen\nThose who doesn't score but have money goes to IPTS\nThose who doesn't score, doesn't have money, well, reality is harsh.", "It's way harder to secure a scholarship than you think. Brain drain is a real problem, but it's not really caused by other countries handing out scholarships. A bigger factor is people migrating abroad after they've graduated and worked for some time in search of better pay etc.", "Brain drain is a tad overstated in some areas. Malaysia kinda suffers from overeducated population as they aren’t enough jobs.", "Private mostly. If you are really good, right across the border there is NUS and NTU. SG government very smart about this. They offer grants and 0% interest loans to get you to go. Brain drain is obviously the result of this.", "20-30 years ago, the parent will give them a couple of hundred Ringgit. Then they go SG find jobs on their own", "Private education. Parents use retirement savings to pay or borrow from relatives or banks. Kids take part time jobs to support themselves.", "rough. that's rough." ], [ "Affirmative action... on steroids" ], [ "UiTM skews the demographics. That alone is hundreds of thousands of students in 1 intake" ], [ "Maybe should show number of applications and success rate as well for better picture" ], [ "I've heard one time Anwar explained it while he visited somewhere to talk with mahasiswa.\nThis argument has been put forward before why Malaysia does it this way.\nTo put it simply why intakes to public IPTA isn't based on meritocracy:\nThe disparity between access to quality education based on geography of living conditions.\nMeaning: Family orang cina generally mostly kaya (middle class at least) (daripada org kampung melayu b40), boleh afford tuisyen sendiri, duduk bandar, boleh afford pergi ipts.\nThe argument that if government ipta uses meritocracy untuk pengambilan students. Lagi jauh jurang living class antara orang cina kaya pandai dengan orang melayu miskin bodoh. All ipta will be flooded with cina that has parents who invested their kids with personal tuisyens and education resources. The 60% population majority Malays kampung miskin will inevitably lagi ketinggalan never to be getting tertiary education.\nNote: Apologies if I come across as using rough language everyone 🙏 This is just my deduction. Please educate me if I'm wrong (which I know I am)", "This was the accepted condition of the NEP, to uplift the Malays over the overwhelming economic of the Chinese.\nThe NEP somewhat did its job but were done half-arsedly. The problem is it is badly managed by the politically motivated out of greed and malicious intent.\nGreed is self explainatory.\nAs for the malicious intention, they don't want the Malays to get too smart but just enough to get jobs in all the incoming FDI and GLC/GLI. Precisely because of lacking critical thinking based education (a prerequisite to being smarter), the Malays are often seen as less capable than the Chinese. I am NOT saying that the Chinese are better critical thinkers, they are more or less the same, it is just that they work harder (a culturally inherent trait), something most Malays (culturally) don't have.\nYou just can't create a new culture in a single generation under the care of the previous generation. Reason why Mahathir created his Look East Policy, towards Japan, as a nation that rised from the ashes after their defeat in WW2. Mahathir wanted the Malays as productive as the Japanese, and he failed.\nReason why the NEP still continued today, where the government just throw money at it to eek out a miniscule return. Not just the Malays still can't compete internationally, they are kept ignorant to keep voting for the same \"Malays\" political parties. The best proof is why any Malaysian government keep using \"helping\" the Rakyat at every opportunity, instead of just doing their job as the servant of the Rakyat?", "poor Chinese still exist. if majority cina are poor and living in rural kampung, they won't reserve places for cina like they do for their own people. whatever politicians say is just bullshit excuses 😂. nothing should be based on race. if he wanna help poor people then help all poor malaysians. not poor malays only.", "There's its good and bad though, the good part is what like you mentioned, wealth disparity, which is a major issue before 1980s\nThen it's bad, it produces a culture where those who benefitted from a system giving free handouts will not strive to improve themselves. A generation or 2 is already enough to make a culture of hardworking/more competitive generation, but it's already been 2 generations since our independence day. In short, it's more suitable as a short term solution rather than a long term solution. It isn't sustainable in the long run. Even my bumi teacher admits it in class where alot of Malays are awfully lazy despite being helped alot by gov while nons have to work so hard without being helped at all.\nHonestly, if it really want to be a win-win situation, gov could lessen the quota/NEP, not completely removing NEP immediately but slowly transition into a meritocracy system, maybe use 20-30 years or so like how Sabah and Sarawak transition from Engkish official language to Malay official language after Malaysia was formed, slowly removing it, but you know our politicians would capitalise it and scream gov taking away Malay rights.", "This arguement falls apart when you realise that poverty is not limited to race. Poor Chinese exists, Rich Malay exists, there is no justification for preferential treatment, especially in education.", "Anwar is a moron. And we are bigger ones for voting for him.\nWhat's you explanation for the Indians then? They're all wealthy and done need uni seats?", "Nah. That's not rough languages. That's the truth.\nBut most cinapek don't want to listen to this. They wanna claim rasis and this statement derails that narrative, because how can u claim rasis when you're economically better off than the other party you're claiming against? It's like white people claiming blacks are taking over all the good university placements through affirmative actions (even tho majority of blacks live in dangerous ghettoes).\nThen the good enlightened cinapeks who actually accepts this would get labeled as traitors to cina.\nSo this statement gets dropped by the wayside and they can still claim rasis.\nThen there's the idiot Meleis who doesn't wanna accept reality and would also get offended by this statement. Bruh, majority of us ARE poor and ignorant. Get over it. Just coz YOU'RE NOT poor and ignorant doesn't mean the rest of Meleis are as lucky as you.", "I think the real victim here is B40 Chinese, they are the minority of a minority. IMO Gov should focus on giving chances to miskin family from all ethnic than just one.", "As non who born to single family household with low income, fml?", "My family is poor so they cannotafford to send me to private university. So my only hope is i get a placement in public university. I did get 9 As for SPM and i didnt get shit, my malay classsmate get 2-3As get placement in matriculations and diploma offers. If this is not racist, what is?\nI would understand if my malay classmate is significantly much poorer than i am, but that was not the case.", "What you said is actually true. Still, I think that maybe we should try to move towards some kind of 'B40 priority' rather than bumiputera priority which is in place now to avoid excluding poor Chinese and ensure that T20 Malays don't benefit off what is meant to help the lower rungs of society." ], [ "Sabah & Sarawak are also bumi." ], [ "Okay, bumi.." ], [ "\"Bumiputera\" = 80% Malay + 2% Bumi", "Pull that one out of your ass isn’t? SS (less than 30% malay) enrollment alone already 8%. How come bumi only 2%?", "Can you help.me understand where did you get this stats?", "Ministry of Higher Education (MOHE) statistic, Department of Statistic Malaysia (DoSM).", "Thanks, do you happen to have a link on hand?", "Not right now. I can help you google it if you want." ], [ "bring back quotas:26559:" ], [ "Vote for me , today i win, tomorrow free education for everyone!" ], [ "Still short of another 18% for true meritocracy. /s" ], [ "Answer? Racism." ], [ "This is apartheid.", "It is not lol. It’s affirmative action, apartheid has a different meaning but sadly you don’t know the difference do you?\nAlso I am guessing you’re going to accuse all these countries of apartheid for having the same law?:\nAustralia, New Zealand, America, Canada, United Kingdom, Sweden, Denmark, Taiwan, Japan, Singapore, India, China, Iran, Russia, France, Indonesia, Romanian and many more?" ], [ "When I was in matriculation, it had over 80% bumi. Out of those 250+ bumis, 1 is Kelabit, and 1 is orang asli. I'm not sure about the composition of other matriculation colleges but I'd assume it is similar. Now, we know almost all of them will be accepted into IPTA with their preferred courses so we can look at the numbers from there." ], [ "No affirmative action, just admit based on merit", "you sure? bumi with 4As can get in matriks, while non-bumi with 10As has to go private", "I think (s)he meant that should be the right way forward" ], [ "in other words, 82% intake of kataks going into a very large tempurung.", "Careful your own racism is showing there.", "is it racism or facts?", "I mean that's a bit over. You're suggesting all are, but we both know that isn't true" ], [ "Still crying for low unemployment rate" ], [ "Is this apartheid?" ], [ "I mean as a non Bumi, would you rather study in government uni or Taylor or UTAR or Inti?\nPart of it is due to quota, but local unis with the possible exception of UM aren’t exactly popular.", "Non-bumis should at least have the option of fair admission into IPTAs, especially since IPTAs are heavily subsided by the gov and are a fraction of the cost of studying private. A lot of non-bumis cannot afford to fund tertiary education in private unis.", "I am out of touch since it’s been years. But tuition loans should still be an option right?", "Ptptn yes\nBut what I hear is they offer far least than my year.\nMax 75% only. A lot dumbfk didn't pay back the loan that they borrowed", "A loan is a loan, and from what I've seen, a lot of people are extremely skeptical of taking 60k+ loans when the job market for college grads is barely better than it is for SPM leavers.", "Not everyone has the funds to go to a private university.", "Im fairly certain most less privileged nons would prefer going to IPTA and not graduate with so much debt.", "Fair. I am probably speaking from a position of privilege. And its been years.", "I was having a similar thought as well. If nons don't prefer gomen schools because of quality, maybe they don't prefer public unis as well, hence the lower percentage.", "Government.\nTop gov unis crush top private unis anyday.", "Not sure which rock u are living under but totally not true at all. When u take grab next time, ask them if they have a degree and where is it from.", "Look at any available public ranking dumbass and get back to me" ], [ "Out of 70% bumis" ], [ "Or rather, if there’s affirmative action needed, then based it on NEED", "We should refer to how other unis operate. Need based and merit based are certainly not mutually exclusive.\nWe could put like 50/50 as a baseline for example" ], [ "Bumiputeras are smart people eh?" ], [ "this is our country to begin with, thats why" ], [ "67% of Malaysians are Bumi but I'm wondering if the youth/birth rate of non-Bumi is comparable to Bumis or more to East Asians" ], [ "I can kinda see which races prevail in this post", "Considering there aren't that many to begin with, we could figure it out by the process of elimination" ], [ "Everyone is jumping to conclusion here. I think we really need more figures and data before we can say anything. One thing that nobody is looking at is age group by demographics. If the ratio of Bumi:Non-bumi for the age group 15-20 (university students) is 80:20, then the figures OP shared make sense.\nAsides that, there are also other factors like Non-bumis preferring to go to IPTS (which also has to be validated before drawing that conclusion).\nJust playing the devil's advocate here.", "It leaves a discussion out of the question, are we supporting population/quota based approach, or are we doing merit/result based approached?\nThe impression is the former where you have 10+As non (hated this term btw) not getting their second choice but 1+As bumi get first choice (even in the same subject)\nWe can also do a hybrid of merit and needs (income and stuff since the argument is the poor will get poorer unless there's support for education), but is Malaysia ready for this kind of discussions?\nIt is quite telling from the fact that one has promised again and again for the recognition of Chinese Independent School (once again, a weird occurrence if we look globally, but certainly high in quality comparatively).", "Assuming that intelligence level follows more or the less the same distribution between different races, the IPTA intakes should be more looking more at underlying population distribution.\nE.g., let's say due to higher fertility rate of bumis, population aged 17-25 (university students) are 80% Bumis, 20% non bumis. Then assuming a similar underlying distribution of intelligence, 10% of these people will get straight A's in their STPM or equivalent pre-uni exams. In the end, the underlying population % will be the one determining the university entrance rate for said race, as in the above example, straight A's students will still be 80% Bumis and 20% non bumis.\nWhile I agree that the quota system for matriculation is highly unfair for non-bumis, there is however no quota for university acceptance, hence my argument that we should not jump to conclusion that university acceptance is based on racial/population quotas. That is why I'm offering an alternative explanation behind the 82% bumi intake for university.\nUnless there is conclusive proof that universities are also conducting racial quotas, they should be given the benefit of doubt and presumption of innocence.", "Hmm, this is reasonable with the assumption.\nAssuming that intelligence level follows more or the less the same distribution between different races\nI suppose we might have data for this somewhere? There's always the stigna that the nons have a larger amount of people on the higher end of spectrum, but I wonder how true is it?\nI suppose seeing the distribution of grades per race should show a good picture." ], [ "To defend this, all of them must be so fucking good in co-curriculum. /s" ], [ "What's a Bumiputera?", "To explain it simply, Malays.", "iban, bidayuh, dan lain2 felt left out...", "They're second grade Bumiputera. Suppressed by the true princes.", "Bumiputera is a term used to represent a racial category that includes: 1. The constitutional Malay race, 2. The natives of Sabah and Sarawak, and 3. Natives of Peninsular Malaysia, provided they are recognized by state governments.\nThe significance of this categorization lies in the fact that Bumiputera have roots dating back thousands of years in this land.\nDuring the formation of Malaya and later Malaysia, the Bumiputera sought to have their special position guaranteed, despite newcomers being recognized as legal citizens of the new country. This special position is upheld as a responsibility of the Agong, as guaranteed by the Constitution.", "You could use the word 'indigenous' but who is and isn't is very subjective. many races in Sarawak and Sabah can clearly claim to be on that land for a very long time. There used to be many ethnic groups that were Muslim but the British simplified them all into one 'Malay' group and that continues to this day for convenience.", "Malays are not indigenous", "That was my point. Only Iban and other Sarawak/Sabah races can claim to be indigenous. But the term implies 'indigenous'.", "I am Tunku Mahkota Bumi..", "What???", "U must not be malaysian. Bumi is earth, putera is prince. Bumiputera literally means prince of the earth. It is used to describe the local malay and indigenous race in malaysia.\nTunku mahkota means crown prince.. therefore im (jokingly) claiming to be even higher than bumiputera.. ok fine it's not that funny. Forget it.", "Earth Prince.\nThe nobles of the land." ], [ "Makes sense lol" ], [ "Malaysian chinese dont care. They come to singapore and earn 5x more than bumi graduates in kerajaan.", "You're missing the ones that could not or chose not to. It does highlight the brain drain of the country however, and personally I don't think the country is on the trajectory to fix it", "brain drain of the country\nThat a good thing. It is time for Malaysia to stop being depended to non-indigenous Malaysian or ended like south africa and formosan", "I don't know if we're on the same page, but brain drain refers to Malaysia moving abroad for work.\nIt might or might not include all the races in Malaysia." ], [ "Good. After graduating it's the other way around. Those “minority” and “terpaling tersakiti” easier to get a job due to mandarin-only speaker.\nFailed multiculturalism and yet wants the equality lol.", "Nobody wants to work in chinaman company nowadays, even the chinese. I love seeing ads with mandarin only, big red flag to avoid", "Mandarin only speaker is a job requirement , mean anyone have the skill set can apply the job\nSuddenly butthurt when job hunting does not have any racial advantages anymore🤣\nIf you want the mandarin speaking job, go learn it and gain the skill set , it is a skill anyone can learn unlike race is born with it and nothing can be done", "We understand well your “terpaling tersakiti” attitude. Mandarin-speaker means Chinese only most of the time and will be prioritised.\nDon’t pretend it… we all knew very well your culture.", "Hah, at least at Sarawak, when we meant mandarin speaking is truly mandarin speaking\nA lot of my Sarawak bumi friend can speak fluent mandarin, and they never have this problem before", "It's a question of is it a skill or a birthright? There's a reason most modern economies are democracy after all.\nIf you want to claim something by birthright, you're born 800 years too late" ], [ "i dont think race applies here anymore, for one the culture and education differs for different programmes, same for whats offered. Another is, how many of those students come through links (i.e. ministers) and how many are sponsored (sponsors get their spots ensured so if you get sponsored like mara, jpa, etc 100% certain local uni is going to accept you based on the scholarship allocating you).\nThen you need to consider other factors. in some universities bumiputera is the minority, like sunway, also one thing to note is racism goes both ways. I once knew a malay who was very skilled, helped other students too and should've one the top student award at sunway but was given to a chinese student (teachers said he should've won but their policy,....).\nAlso significant effort is put into educating orang asli, so while one tries to claim malays get in much easier with lower results, its far far easier for orang asli now. I never see any bashing against non malay bumiputera. Yes we should bash the people who get benefits through corruption rather than effort but scholarships despite their biased are still only offered to the best bumiputera students.\nThe key thing to remember is that this is gov university, which is gov funded and therefore allocation is through early planning so your best chance of going in is through government programmes and sponsorships. This doesnt include universities even foreign ones in malaysia. Just because gov university is more than 80% bumiputera, things significantly change once you include all universities in malaysia. This looks like nitpicking statistics to point out systematic racism where it doesnt exist.", "its funny, even with that wall of text you still can't fluff away the fact that public uni racial quota exists.", "Checked out as soon as I saw the name because I knew there'd be a wall of text that says many words but signifies nothing.", "it goes both ways, racism exists in private universities as well.\nIf you want to talk about the quota first talk about non bumiputera applying to the programmes in the first place. These arent your regular degree universities.", "first talk about non bumiputera applying to the programmes in the first place\nOk what's there to talk about?", "The difference is that private u racism, if gets called out, will never get defended.\nUnlike gov u, where so many people will go out of their way to defend it.", "oh sure try calling out racism in sunway U, good luck. my bro never got the recognition he deserved and the teachers know it too.", "People love to gloss over this fact. How many actually applied to go into public unis", "Enough to make the news that straight As are not getting accepted into public U.", "I think there's only like a handful of this story every year compared to the total number so probably not a good statistic to base this on. True story: I'm a bumi with straight As, also didn't get my pick of public uni with my desired course. Not saying there isn't a racial quota obviously but I think we are not getting the whole picture which is how many applied in the first place vs how many got accepted. Also I think the public uni system is F'd in the first place so probably best to just go to private uni via scholarship or PTPTN. Unless you're aiming for medicine, then tough luck :(", "You're right that public uni system is f'd, hence why serious reform is required. In the process of sidelining nons straight As, it is also bound to harm some Malays too. At the end of the day, all public U really need is meritocracy, and allow the best minds in our country to flourish in our public U, especially those that are not so fortunate or resourceful. Most importantly our best minds can stay and help develop our country, in reality that's what local U is about.\nCurrently because of the f uped system, we're producing oversupplied, unusable, unhire-able graduates. At the same time we're sending our best minds overseas to help other countries. It's a one two punch that is regressing our country rapidly.\nIt's not just about the future of nons, its also the future of our country.\nYou can argue otherwise, but you're not changing the reality on the ground. You're not going to bend how karma works.", "local and gov U are not the same. The statistics are biased here since people's applications and paths tend to not favour gov programmes like matriculation.\nThats why i mentioned we need to see the whole picture by looking at the % of races in all uni rather than just gov and why this post is very misleading because someone is trying to make issue of race where the problem is the gov planning to make the university more appealing and relevant.\nSo its not about going to local/gov U for local labour force, its just the programmes offered differ and usually isnt really wanted as much. It doesnt help that the malaysian mindset means local employers dont want to look at gov U over reasons of \"bias\" saying \"they were racist towards me\" instead of looking at what is actually happening. I can say even private U is racist, and this also based on experience in terms of the racism being far worse. Sure some U got quota but private U will pick awards based on race rather than achievements. True story though for sunway U.", "i got heavily downvoted for mention that this isnt the whole story but malaysian redditors want to keep saying \"gov is systematically racist\" im bumi and did not get any of the so called assistance or allocations and i was into CS way before they were.", "Enough to cause NTU and NUS from Singapore to snatch top scorers here." ], [ "Holy shit" ], [ "Seriously thinking we should have a minority only scholarship. Study In Nottingham uk is only £9.7k per year, very similar to Malaysia private university." ], [ ":29091:" ], [ "However, how many will fail..." ], [ "When nep was introduced, they said its to balance the representative of each races, not only it didnt get scrapped after objective achieved, now its use as tool to cancel the livinghood of others.\nIts already ridiculous enough when u purposely reserved 50% 'quota' with sole reason of race instead or useful purpose. Now its more than 80. And yet everyday they reign hell to others that dont kowtow to their bullshit. Its like they take pride in forcing other migrate, why does this sound like a middle east country name start with 'i'." ], [ "Kulit-fication, instead of qualification, rules in Bolehland!\nWhat's new? Welcome to Malaise-yeah.\nGlad I've converted my citizenship long ago.\nJust looking at the USD/MYR trend:\nOn 2 Sep 1997: USD1 = MYR2.9415\nOn 1 Sep 2023: USD1 = MYR4.641\nA depreciation of 58% in 26 years.\nSource: Bank Negara Malaysia data\nThe slide is even worse compared to our neighbours. The MYR has depreciated 67% against the SGD, and 62% against the THB over the same 26-year period. Congratulations!", "Sorry to hijack, but what's your path of emigration and conversion of generation wealth away from Malaysia :?", "This country installed a quota system against me, whereas another country gave me a scholarship.", "How did you get on the path :?" ], [ "I comfort myself in thinking that 80% bumis who scored a spot in university without actually working for it have a rude awakening the moment they graduate since as an employee I would much rather take a candidate who actually worked hard for it. Why do u think with all the policies to help them for the last 60 years, they are still lacking behind?" ] ]

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[ [ "The Streisand Effect in action, baby." ], [ "will that particular group complain “eh completely wrong representation of who’s the pendatang!? know your place don’t provoke”?", "Either that or, \"ko tgk, ini lah yg cina babi akan buat bila mereka berkuasa\"" ] ]

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[ [ "Shouldn't cybersecurity specialists lead CSM?" ], [ "PMX best leet hacker by none\nnobody can hack PMX" ], [ "So PMX not trust Gobind or Fahmi in handling Cyber security?" ], [ "highest executitve" ], [ "AI ctrl cybersecurity" ], [ "Don't worry A.I. pmx had high security 😂👍" ] ]

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[ [ "Hmm, 🧐 read like a generic text generated from ai chat gpt. Is it really written by a human author with a brain? Doubtful.", "Using AI to write an article about why AI is bad.\n5head move" ], [ "Now go back to your cave, DR. IRMA SYARLINA CHE ILIAS.\nThis is why we can't progress as society, too fragile to handle anything." ], [ "Worry that AI don't respect the Malaysia cultures?\nIs the author so dumb to not realize that the AI is part of the tool we used in our daily life?\nNow you want AI, the robot and the tool to respect the cultures?", "There's valid criticism there, remember how Google Photos categorised black faces as gorillas in 2015? Current AI is reliant on its training datasets, as in GIGO. Or how colour film were optimised for light skin colour, as in unconscious bias.\nAlthough I suspect the writer is thinking more of 'malaysian islamic' culture than actual Malay or Malaysian culture when she wrote this.", "The author has some valid points but i think you are right. The question then will be at what point does political correctness or something as nebulous as \"cultural sensitivity\" transition from being an acceptable constraint variable to a detrimental or absurd nuisance. Will we for example, end up with the AI refusing to create an image of a bikini girl when it detects the prompt engineer is a muslim or Malaysian? Or will it automatically generate a bikini girl with a hijab attached? If i prompt dallE to create an image of a young blue haired female wizard wearing a pointy hat in anime style, will it draw something approximating my beloved Roxy-chan or will I end up with a hijabi just because the AI detected my Malaysian IP? Or will dallE just tell me, that prompt is \"not halal\" because there are elements of idolatry? It may seem I'm trivialising this but I'm not. There ought to be clear guidelines of course, but we need to be realistic too.", "https://www.404media.co/laion-datasets-removed-stanford-csam-child-abuse/\nThe model is a massive part of the AI-ecosystem, used by Stable Diffusion and other major generative AI products. The removal follows discoveries made by Stanford researchers, who found thousands instances of suspected child sexual abuse material in the dataset." ], [ "Sikit sikit terancam\nBalik gua je" ], [ "AI will just generate whatever; we the human needs to filter" ], [ "Rencana ini baca macam sesuatu yang dihasilkan oleh AI. Gaya penulisan terlalu generik." ], [ "Anwar Ibrahim tak hormat budaya malaysia:26557:" ], [ "the author smoke weed or what with this article?" ], [ "Must be jumping into one of local AI image communities and suddenly making a shallow statement." ], [ "Don't worry, KL would become the hub for the Pan-Asian Deep Learning Conference in the near future. I know, cos I saw it mentioned in JT's song, Filthy mv." ] ]

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[ [ "whats the measurement for ranking? members?", "Amount of shitposting :26554::29091:", "r/bolehland should win then.", "Nobody beats the pinoy when you are a shithousery.. even india sub with more sub lose", "No nation can beat pinoy and Indian in cyberspace, especially pinoy in game 🎮", "Yup, that's where we are in the bell curve, right in the middle", "To be fair India sub had to be split to two", "India partitioned yet again. Curious do you know why?", "From what I've heard and I'm simplifying here, it's for political reasons. The mods in r/India are more liberal and Congress centric, which makes some of the members especially the BJP supporters are unhappy with the mods running that subreddit due to their political biases. This makes them to spin-off into another subreddit.", "It takes TWO India subs, to not win.", "That sub full of nerdie immature kiddos who still watch cartoons. Lol", "Dicks", "Is it not apparent from the picture that isnt the case???\nShitposts :26554:", "Engagement." ], [ "Singapore ahead of us :sob:", "I prefer Malaysia subreddit. More interesting (read: crazy)", "So, that is to say, Singapore subreddit is bland & less exciting?", "If you want unhinged Singapore stuff, maybe you can try r/singaporehappenings", "lol! I know I got that. I still enjoy Malaysia one and also r/Bolehland. Got strange news like “cannot write Merry Christmas on cakes because not Halal”. Also, “Malaysia PM must be Malay, write it in the constitution” - first I am surprised, it’s not law already? Two, what are you guys afraid of?", "Well obviously we are better la (at being utterly deranged). The country larger, more people with less access to education.", "Oops 🙊", "Well our topics are much more diverse, but r/Singapore not bad also almost every week some funny sex offenders news", "If you want unhinged Singapore stuff\n/r/SingaporeRaw", "Here's a sneak peek of /r/singaporehappenings using the top posts of all time!\n#1: Indian Housewarming ritual, i think very rare to see in SG. | 652 comments\n#2: No need to call Police already 😂😂😂 | 154 comments\n#3: Residents applaud as SCDF officers rescue woman, 74, from parapet of Bukit Batok block | 108 comments\nI'm a bot, beep boop | Downvote to remove | Contact | Info | Opt-out | GitHub", "And r/singaporeraw", "Or r/SingaporeRaw", "Put it this way, r/sg currently has a pretty ridiculous complete ban on any post even remotely related to Palestine and Israel.\nThis includes articles from the national paper, and government speeches in parliament. All are locked.", "That's what we have done here though. We have a megathread to contain them.", "There's no mega thread in r/sg it's just a ban", "Oh wow. Well it had little to do with singapore anyway, so I can somehow understand why they did that. Unlike malaysia, where the government is so invested in the issue.", "I can empathise with the mods because it's just a troublesome topic to moderate.\nBut the issue actually is quite topical for Singapore. Close ties to Israel historically, but now the government has clearly changed position to be less Israeli leaning and more in line with wider international condemnation.\nThere's literally statements coming out of government ministers in the news (which is majority owned by the state), and there's just no way to comment about it on r/sg.", "And less cili padi", "We have way higher sohais per population", "Ahead in currency too", "blames dap\n/s" ], [ "Oh thank God for the red arrow. I really couldn't tell where r/malaysia is without it.", "That's because education ranking is lower." ], [ "Our sub used to have way less members compared to r/Singapore , like a couple of hundred thousand less. The amount of members has grown significantly in just a few years.", "I remember when we celebrated having 20k members. Singapore had around 140k members at that point.", "Whyyy? Did we do a AMA? or Undi18?", "If memory serves me right, people started pouring in during the 2018 GE.", "I think 2018 GE, people flooded here just to get news and information lol", "before 2018 GE I think this sub had less than 8k members", "And it’s still a couple hundred thousand less now in the pic?\nEdit: 3, not just a couple" ], [ "Smh cant pass thru all of them" ], [ "Dang gotta get on the Philippines train" ], [ "Fair" ], [ "India sleeping? They literally have all the people there", "Reddit isn’t really popular" ], [ "Why we are always below Singapore in everything ? 😢", "\"Don't worry we have skyscrapers taller than ones they have in Singapore 😎\"", "Because we have something to prove, they haven’t" ], [ "Ranked in....? Please don't be what I think it is..." ], [ "Damn, India has two :26559:", "one is more \"liberal\" (r/India) and the other is more conservative (r/indiaspeaks) (aka it's Hindu nationalist to some degree)" ], [ "Redditors assemble" ], [ "Pinoy pride!" ], [ "Wow we didn't shitpost enough you mean", "Well you can blame that on rule 3, rule 5 and rule 7\nPlus this sub desperately encourages people posting on daily threads anyway", "Oh ya... The daily threads................" ] ]

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[ [ "Ultimately everything will just cost more" ], [ "r/kereta parts will also increase due to 10% LVG tax. Feelsbadman.jog" ], [ "This what happens when you have no GST. All sorts of different taxes (different rates too) that could be just harmonised under a GST." ] ]

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[ [ "Hmmm need more time to feel about this" ], [ "Not feeling it" ], [ "inilah dia kesan ekonomi madani yang mendahulukan kepentingan rakyat. sememangnya rafizi (ekonomi) & bang non (kewangan) adalah gabungan unggul dalam memacu ekonomi negara:29091:" ], [ "Next year will be ( )." ] ]

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[ [ "the probe was linked to the leak of the “Pandora Papers”\nSays it all" ] ]

[ "Environment" ]

[ [ "Lack of accountability means all those billions spent end up in someone's pocket. Then flood happens and repeat calls for more funding to solve flood problem. Endless reason to pocket more money.", "Ussually it would end up blame rakyat for not keeping the drain clean", "Now you know why Singapore isn't the cleanest city. It's the most cleaned city.\nBecause even LKY knew he couldn't trust the common people to not litter indiscriminately.\nSo he made significant investments in making sure many rubbish bins are made available, waste management services are made efficient and hefty fines for littering.\nIf M'sia government could follow Singapore's example there wouldn't need to have any blaming of the rakyat at all.", "We cannot do that otherwise our politician wont have money for themselves.", "Well, the C / P / F changed policies because many pakciks were enjoying too much sexy time in Batam. Bloody pakciks.", "Well, this flood is caused by river overflowing so nothing to do with drains.", "\"you throw rubbish into drains, drains flows into rivers, hence you're at fault\"\nsee? i can help those politicians reply liao", "I love politician slamming but I can't go along when its made up shit. There's so many actual faults they have, just stick to facts.", "Politician mah … they will divert the stories and blame other thing", "Not for this case. They don't even need to blame anything. A big flood happened and more funding needed.", "Their leaders : Cuti hujung tahun ini… Jom pergi Thailand", "Nope, Europe at best.", "" ], [ "Screencap of the article\n<image>" ], [ "At this point, the dumb folks in Kelantan and Terengganu fucking deserve this. You get what you vote for. So many years happening yet no changes of votes.", "For their faith and their God they will keep voting the same party, regarding they been lie and manipulating their whole life.", "My dad's from Kelantan and I asked him this question, he said there's two reasons - one is that PAS' grassroots and community work is superb, being spearheaded by a good leader in TGNA (in the past) helps a lot to gain a good image too; the other is that BN screwed these two states over in the past to the point where PAS has become the default option, whilst PH is too liberal for their liking.\nHearing that, I kinda understand why they would vote PAS. A Religious zealot party aside, they do work albeit in their own way.", "Well, they don’t work hard enough. They get millions from federal and splurge on themselves and Mercedes. Change is vital, change is crucial, this moment truly need changes but I get old people and their pride will never double down.", "You speak so insensitively. My house is flooding and you say I deserve it. Screw you. Do I have to say who I vote for to be seen as a human? Your principle of human dignity is fragile." ], [ "Rindu zaman kanak kanak boleh main dalam banjir\nNothing to see here. Open flood relief center, more press conference, more pledge for aid, more donation, forgot about it.\nNext year repeat again", "Cheaper than the long term solution tbh", "Old school vaccine", "back when masa budak budak i balik kampung. my parents were like DONT PLAY IN THE WATER! ITS DIRTY! i always envied kids who played in the water.\none day i was at my granpa's place. no supervision. i went into the sawah padi. was so much fun wading in the muddy waters.\nwhen i came out tho. to my horror, my legs are crawling with leeches. cried my ass off running to my granpa.\nlearned my lesson.\ni also remember my cousins playing in flood water on a different time/place. i kept my distance. it seemed fun but i stayed away.\nmy cousins ended up with worms.\nanak anak, jangan main air banjir ya", "Yes, it's pretty dangerous. Because you never know what is inside those water.", "the obvious stuff are physical threats like nails/broken glass. flood water in kelantan is just teh tarik colour. cant see shit.\nthe non obvious stuff are literal shit/carcasses/worms/bacteria etc.\new" ], [ "God is Angry with PAS.", "The Chosen People? Unpossible!", "Semua ni bala disebabkan oleh konsert Coldplay /s", "Sejuk main. Hujan terus banjir.", "Mana possible?! Ini semua salah Dap dan PmX!", "Why PAS.. PAS will say Ini semua salah DAP and PMx" ], [ "Now, political snark aside, I wonder how exactly an action plan to mitigate floods around coastal regions WOULD look like? Especially for the geography in this locale?\nConsidering we're not loaded like the Dutch, it would be a much simpler implementation than a dam, but I'm still curious on how it'd be executed overall.\nThe simple method would be maintained drains, but surely there's more we've learned to use over the years. Something with just a smidge more automation and/or engineering?", "They article states that phase 1 of 3 of the flood mitigation project is only expected to complete in Aug 2024. Not sure if there were other projects before this but it’s kinda obvious that if the project hasn’t been completed yet, then there will still be floods happening til then.\nJust based off the article, it looks like the river is the one that is overflowing which causes the floods. The simplest method will be to either make the river deeper/wider to accommodate heavier rainfalls or to make a wall on both sides of the river instead. Again, the article suggests that this is what they’re doing through dredging and building a dyke.\nIf heavy rainfall is causing the drains to overflow then the drainage system needs to be improved. Same thing, really, you just need bigger drains. Make a big monsoon drain that other areas drain into and that will solve almost everything. There’s also the option of making retention ponds in each zone. Basically a giant empty pool that gets filled up during heavy rain. The pond limits the max water flow that enters the main drain which prevents the main drain from overflowing.", "The retention pool idea might be the one that takes a while to consider, especially if there's uncertainties of whether the water outflow (through ground and mostly evap) is enough for the periodic flood cycles. But when that's determined, that's how they can select a central location I guess.\nGood to see a quality post once in a while.", "It’s the easiest one actually. Usually the requirements are given by the irrigation and drainage department and imposed on developers. So any new developed land will require the developers themselves to propose and implement a retention pond in the new development. Doesn’t help for existing infrastructure though.\nThis is why urban planning is important. Having appropriate road reserves lets cities have enough space to expand roads from two lanes to four lanes and extra space to increase drain sizes in future too (But it’s better to just make big drains first because increasing the size of an existing drain is just pain). Unfortunately some old cities didn’t have codes to follow or had any planning so there’ll be buildings without setbacks and roads being far too narrow without any easy way to expand.", "Typically better drainage, widening and deepening of rivers, more retention pools and water catchment areas.\nNowadays there are other proposals like more “sponge cities”, which are really water catchment areas built into urban facilities like parks and greeneries. But those probably not that relevant for our coastal areas.\nBiggest reason is still deforestation and the destruction of natural water catchment features/areas. To build infrastructure to counter the effects is costly and they can’t keep up with the rate of deforestation.", "It would depend on which type of floods is being mitigated I suppose. There's flash floods (short term rain but heavy rainfall) and actual proper floods (long term rain with consistent rainfall)\nMaintained drains wouldn't be much help for flash floods for instance, as even Singapore still gets flash flooded from time to time", "Maybe... Just maybe stop cutting down forest to fund your Mercedes & economy since they banned everything from tourism, sin tax and chase away businesses for the sake of God & religion?", "From 9 years ago:\nHigh deforestation rates in Malaysian states hit by flooding Link\nThis is not new nor is it rocket science. Deforestation make flooding worse by a lot.", "No shit. It's on the wall. The state government AND ROYALS were told to cool off the rapid deforestation and stop mining for rare earths. Such a basic concept and ts says it's a trashy soc med reply", "I asked for a non-socmed trashy suggestion, without vibes of 'just do this lol'\nBut I don't know what I expected, asking for technicalities in such a terminally online space", "That's what you get for asking real questions here. We only accept finger pointing. Someone needs to be blamed", "Are you just looking for an argument? You ask for a solution. My solution based on understanding what's wrong with the state is not to stop cutting down forest. How Tf is that a trashy suggestion?\nSay we built a damn around the coastal area. Billions of ringgit project. But without the roots of the forest and mangrove and mining, the soil cannot retain water. Hence flood. This is the same as pouring water over a parched pot of soil. It doesn't absorb easily.", "Cuz the 2nd half of your comment seemed not too different than what I'd read on facebook (and here too, if I'm gonna be honest), where race, religion, and politics live rent free in their heads regarding everything\nOfc complete reduction is the best course of action, zero-sum wise, but it would stunt domestic product growth. Sustainable development seems to be the most wise action then, instead of outright stopping.", "But am I wrong tho? They chase away every taxable and licensed business and push their citizens to open up road side shops who are dealing with cash most of the time and don't need city license. So no money. What they do? Cut trees.\ntaps on head you didn't get an answer you want and you call it trashy.", "Like, I don't disagree that the leaders aren't doing what they should, and the people are suffering for it\nBut that's a no brainer yo, no need to tap heads when it's implicit. No need to bring up the alphabet when people are talking sentences", "I think a smarter solution might be building an artificial wetland. Not only it can trap excess rainwater but it can also double as a recreational and tourist attraction. Another option is to build irrigation canals. It can double as a reservoir for excess floodwaters as well as provide irrigation to paddy fields which covers significant hectares of land in Kelantan doubling productivity and output of rice in the state.", "The only issue I see here is that controlling the flow of irrigation for as large of a flow as monsoon rainwater; it would need something akin to a dam. Not a small feat, but if it's gotta be done, that's how it is." ], [ "Flood Happen\nState Rakyat question\nPAS: inilah yang testing faith of Allah bro, also semua salah PMX\nRakyat: SOKONG UNDI PAS NEXT ELECTION!!!" ], [ "ah yes, every year got flood for east coast folks, when they gonna learn?\nthis is just another tale as old as time, they are the perfect definition of Insanity", "Its low land. Nothing much can be done. Even here in kv got area that always flood no matter what the local gov do.\nTheres even forecast if sea level rises, kelantan will be 1 of those wiped off the map.", "They won't. They will move elsewhere but go back there to vote and put PAS back into power" ], [ "As floods rose in Kelantan, many have raised questions about the billions of ringgit invested in flood mitigation projects\nIs their flood mitigation project the purchase of a boat?\nWhatever happens there, PAS is correct and the government is incorrect." ], [ "confirm will semua salah Federal gov, then continue vote PAS\nlol.", "Pas do nothing\nAlso pas: Win" ], [ "Duh, no proper work n professional hired to do the job, all just talk cock only\nAt the end of the day, it's always people suffer.\nOur government never actually cared for us for the past 30 years." ], [ "Next election sure put PAS back to bottom", "you sure though ...?", "Wishful thinking :26554:", "There is no way in hell they going to do this.", "The vote funneling into PAS and never get out like the air in Kelantan", "Here me out: what if the folks voting green drown and displaced until the voter base reduce to a negligible level", "Encik kau lupa letak /s" ], [ "literally", "Try connecting to PAS, the number you dialed is not in service." ], [ "why worry about river projects? i thot voting for PAS (who seems to have a direct line to gawd) can solve all issues? /s", "No voting for PAS buys you a ticket to heaven. The suffering on earth is just a test and temporal compared to eternity in heaven w 72 virgins and rivers of non-intoxicating wine" ], [ "The guy need to pay alimony and child support to his Russian ex" ], [ "Maybe if it hits 1 mill and kena rumah politician they’ll start taking this seriously", "Their home address starts with \"Bukit\" , impossible for this scenario to happen." ], [ "Ini salah DAP kerana ada cuaca, ada air, ada hujan, ada banjir." ], [ "Best time to see where to buy land or not to buy land." ], [ "I'm just saying but instead of focusing on Palestine , how about we focused on solving our domestic problems first" ], [ "Every year it's the same news on flood... No improvement or what" ], [ "Very Islamic way of doing things. 💪\nI still don’t understand why the majority of that religion in Malaysia still not riot against these penunggang. Do things half ass, make people suffer, and spread hates to non Muslim.", "Watch the Keluar Sekejap episode that featured the guest speaker who was a former mufti and Minister of Agama Islam. As much as I did not enjoy the episode, it gave me perspective towards what is the mindset of our Malay brethren.\nTo answer your question, it's because a good portion of their population cannot vote for DAP or any party that aligns themselves with DAP. That is because DAP appears to be \"too liberal/secular\".\nWatching that episode makes me feel that if DAP is sincere in wanting to appeal to all rakyats and be truly inclusive, they need to propagate an image of being balanced in both secularism and theocracy. We can criticise theocracy to our hearts content, but it remains crucial to remember that it's part of Islam and it's inseparable (so I understand from that KS episode).\nAnd because of DAP's strong stance in pursuing liberalism and secularism, even moderate Malays have to vote for the next best thing that preserves their religion: PAS.\nI confirmed this with a few malay friends who were comfortable enough to discuss about this openly to me after watching that episode together" ], [ "We should just empty the East Coast for good.\nThe alternative is for East Coast people to live a nomadic life. Meaning empty their cities for the months of November, December and January.\nThroughout Malaysia, we need to rethink about how do we design our cities and how we commute, so that less personal property gets damaged by floods. The floods are only going to get worse, as a result of climate change ( How to Save Thailand and Malaysia From Rising Sea Levels – The Diplomat )", "We should just empty the East Coast for good.\nThat would make no sense. Flood also happen all the time in KL and parts of Selangor. Then how? Empty those places?\nIts 2024 soon. We can solve flood issue if we make sure the money going towards flood mitigation instead of lining up the pockets of our politicians.", "They will all move to selangor and vote for pas 😊", "Shah Alam for all its east coast migrants is a PH area.\nMaybe they all went up north, where most of the people there voted in PN?" ], [ "Anyone who is in construction knows how this business work, especially if it is a gomen contract. Here I will share you some insights of this particular \"tebatan banjir\" project I got from a friend who is a consultant working for the contractor assigned for the project.\nIn the very beginning it was shady. The project was awarded to a contractor. Usually, this kind of project, a consultant will be appointed first to produce a design for the project and then a contractor will be appointed to do the ground work. For this project it was the other way around and the contractor is rumoured to be connected to the Kelantan royals.\nUsually contractors are working for consultants but for this project it was the other way around. Due to that, the contractors are taking a lot of short cuts for bigger take home money from the project. Short cuts such as low quality design request, low quality materials, low accountability all around.\nThese projects are suppose to be in phases and Phase 1 has already failed. Someone needs to start asking the right question.\nYou lot can blame Kelantanese for choosing their leaders but accountability still lies within these so called leaders themselves and they should be held on to it." ], [ "i think they've mistaken flood mitigation for drought mitigation" ], [ "How is this a factor? Sabah Sarawak has equally long coastline with South China Sea, and has more rivers, but don't have frequent floods annually?\n<image>", "It's the direction of northeast Monsoon. East Coast States are directly affected by these. Sabah/Sarawak, not really", "We have the Philippines acting as our wall during monsoon season" ], [ "The billions should go to this type of project:\nJapan's Underground Flood Control System." ], [ "If I can't see it, then it does not exist" ], [ "If you guys wonder whether this would cause any changes to the people's loyalty towards PAS, I don't think it would.\nThey might just move to another state and go back there to vote and make sure PAS remains in power.\nSos: I know a family from Kelantan that does this. Their kids are all in shahalam and cyberjaya now, but they would deign to travel back all the way to vote for PAS than vote for someone else" ] ]

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[ "Science/ Technology" ]

[ [ "Food is abundant\nThe money to buy the food tho?", "Untuk beli banyak jam Rolex dan Mercs sebagai tauladan kpd pengikut2 utk selalu kerja keras dan tabahkan imam, amin :26554:" ], [ "Time to increase minimum wage." ], [ "I personally observed a mother of five reprimanded her kid when the kid wanted to go for a second serving during a Hari Raya open house. The kid was skinny af - not sure if stunted.\nI'd say the pressure from rising cost of living is definitely in the picture. It is not just food, increasing cost in other places will reduce the amount of share for food." ] ]

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[ [ "underpaid and overworked\nYes for any hotel establishment especially if you aspire to climb the ladder. If you work for any 24hr famous establishment, expect your phone to be buzzing often\nworking culture, experience, work-life balance\nHonestly it’s a hit or miss. I enjoyed working in one department in a hotel and hated another in the same hotel. Another time it’s the reverse\nMalaysia’s hospitality industry has so much potential, but operations staff’s professionalism and skill level isn’t quite there yet for the brand they represent, imo", "Well I guess every dept has its own culture. It's like a landmine, you choose and step into the wrong dept, you're gone. What area of hospitality are you in?", "Worked in hotel and standalone restaurants before. Both FoH and BoH\nCall me xenophobic or whatever but I honestly think Malaysia’s hotel industry can thrive if they hire locals exclusively. But then again the job itself has to be attractive to locals" ] ]

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[ [ "There is special plate and the price is slightly expensive than standard plate, sometimes it is for an event or NGO or special occasion. Sometimes our university also has special plate for their alumni member.", "Slightly is an understatement lol" ], [ "commemorative vanity plates, usually more expensive than the normal plate." ] ]

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[ [ "This is good quality film making with minimal obstacles, given that it was crowd funded & the film premiered on Youtube. It will be a different story if the film producers were to seek funding using traditional pathways.\nThat is because the film's subject matter will be \"frowned upon\" by the authorities. Even if the film were to be approved and screened, I can imagine Lembaga Penapisan Filem ( Film Censorship Board ) having a field day snipping here and there. This is the kind of nanny state the government has become; \"censored, blocked, prohibited etc, so as not to provoke racial tensions or to keep the harmony between races, etc\".\nGood film making that has introspective qualities needs to be made so that, in a post mortem, society as a whole can reflect on it's current state.\nMany of the story elements within the film has relevance to Malaysian history; 513 ( May 13th ) and the racially segregated areas that harks back to the New Villages established during the Communist Insurgency; kinda like the Hunger Games setting with the segregated Districts. The film also posits a future where the Federation of Malaysia is no more; with Sabah & Sarawak leaving.\nWithin the film's world, it will be the rich, greedy & corrupt individuals that will take advantage of the situation to profit, just to secure their personal interests. While those who were already on the extreme end ( like the Defense Force soldiers ), will exploit the situation to harm & kill people not aligned with the law. Those caught in the middle will be the ones to suffer because they desire peace with the other races.\nThe entire movie leaves me with the feeling that the future looks bleak for a Malaysia that is literally segregated according to race. The reality is, we have it very good; due to what our forefathers have built Pre-Merdeka and Post-Merdeka. We just take it for granted, assuming everything is all fine.\nBut there will always be bad extremist actors in society who claim \"they are the victim\" or \"its us against them\" in order to say \"we are better than them\"; and as a result, the supporters who agree will rally around these extremists and their voices will just grow louder.\nTo stop that, Malaysians need to go out and get to know one another. Leave the comfort zone of the insular community bubble and mix with the other races. Only as Malaysians, together, will our society progress to greater heights.", "But there will always be bad extremist actors in society who claim \"they are the victim\" or \"its us against them\" in order to say \"we are better than them\"; and as a result, the supporters who agree will rally around these extremists and their voices will just grow louder.\nSo should I be pro status quo or anti bumi rights?", "Whatever benefits you." ], [ "This is the type of movie that we need, dare to be different. Not those trash that is currently on TV, filtered and vetted by useless old fucks." ], [ "I like it there are so many remarks on malaysia corruption and subtle racism.The most obvious is \"I work for our race but yet do business with the other side\"..\nThe story on the other hand is a bit bland and kinda full of plot holes. But I kinda like that without the malay girl,stories would had goes as in the movie. This goes to show, the malay girl won't get them in trouble because the authorities there already power tripping and will use any reason to oppress them.\nOverall a good show and it definitely generate a lot of buzz based on how interesting the premise is. I like how this movie portrays this \"what if malaysia really reaches to a max racial tension and we all forced to live according to own races\".", "The father even said \"I'll send you to the Indian!\"", "I thought this is supposed to be dystopian fiction?" ], [ "Fahmi and the crooked now calling for emergency meeting, formulating the take down and censorship to execute tmr morning.", "It is quite possible, he might make a press conference and summon Youtube executive in Malaysia to takedown and censor the movie if the normal process didn't work (which someone probably already use the Youtube standard report tool to report the movie at this point).", "Later he'll say it's not him who did it\n(Tapi his goons? Who knows)", "why censor? I don't see any sex or violence ?", "Maybe by reason of \"prejudicial to racial harmony\"" ], [ "I go bonkers with the ending. Not gonna touch on cinematography, props, special effects so on. For 300k it decent one. I watch it with live commentary, it hilarious. Some jokes does lighten up the sensitive issues\nBut storyline wise, it does hit the soft spot in me. My closest circle very multiracial so I can't help to take it personal. Watching it as a malay, I do acknowledge with the bumiputera privilege. Keep waiting for Indian scene, and finally at the end\nThis film meant to spark discussion on sensitive issue ie races. Just like Mentega Terbang that touch on religion. We'll see if malaysia ready for this kind of conversation. For sure gonna get some backlash." ], [ "Just saw the movie. It's good. Really grip me from start to finish. But i got a very very strong feeling that it will be taken down. Those snowflakes are gonna make a big fuss about it. Fingers crossed it won't come to that.", "Yeah I'm expecting the same.", "Can they?" ], [ "One of the most interesting movies, but I was quarter done with the movie.\nJust waiting for Fahmi to cry about it and zhaf pixels review this movie, with the thumbnail says it sucks and he actually says it sucks. Typical zhaf.", "Who the hell is zhaf pixels?", "Movie reviewer, most often his clickbait thumbnails say the movie is bad\nI just don't like him at all as a movie reviewer" ], [ "the movie we deserve but instead keep getting shitty michael bay wannabes or doctored historicals. Hope the streisand effect help boost this movie's viewership up" ], [ "The topic and message of the movie is interesting. They try to make subtle hints of their view on the current situation. So, this will spark some discussion.\nBut, the storyline is kind of mehh. I think the writer and director is more focused on delivering their message rather than the story." ], [ "It’s an interesting story but I wish they told more about the traffic accident that caused the segregation? Or did I miss it." ], [ "Putting my thoughts in point forms.\n[1] I love a good dystopian story (Love, Death & Robots, I Am Legend, Last of Us, etc), and this really got me excited. I love the premise of the story, it struck a chord in both being my favourite genre and also being very relatable as a Malaysian. The sprinkles of casual racism undertones are something foreigners would not understand without knowing the context.\n[2] The premise of the story is great, and the first 20-30 minutes building up was really great. But it still suffers from a common Malaysian movie problem - right about the time the bald female soldier found the Chinese kids were playing with a Malay girl, the storytelling kinda went downhill. Parts of the rest of the story felt a bit forced in order to progress the story, like how little reaction the family shows every time someone dies before their eyes, and how the secret meeting ended with the Malay boss somehow managed to pick a heavier weapon up without being shot by a guy who never seemed to hesitate to pull the trigger any time. Immersion broke at certain points.\n[3] Someone in the YouTube comments pointed out how weird people were willing to die for furniture. I agree and thought it'd have been more believable if they'd kill for more essential things like food or medicine. Recall the lockdowns and imagine yourself, what would be the most valuable commodities when there's rationing?\n[4] I wonder how the story could've been told if the Malay girl had more lines. The more scenes went by without a word from her, the more I felt uncomfortable with her presence as if she was nothing more than a vehicle to move the story. She's a little girl after all, how could she understand that she shouldn't speak to anyone who isn't Malay or understand about the segregation? I wish her character was given more depth, for example she could also have been used to tell a little more about what is happening with the Malays without showing them.\n[5] This is less about the movie, more about Malaysians - it's rather unfortunate (but expected) that certain groups of Malays were jumping up and down, making up racist conclusions before the movie was even available for public viewing. This really only shows who they are and how possible the reality in the movie is. However, I could see this changing some Malays' minds if they try to watch it, but I'm not sure if it could with conservative/racist Chinese. I feel they are equally incapable of appreciating the moral of the story like their Malay counterparts.\nWhile I agree with others who pointed about politics and corruption, I'm leaving them out as those weren't my primary thoughts while watching.\nEdit: I noticed some complaining about the ending. It's human nature to seek resolution in things, but movies like this really don't need it. To me it's perfect - invokes uncertainty, fear, and questions about humanity." ], [ "This film demonstrates that if we exhibit excessive racial tendencies, there will be parties who exploit us and subjugate us.\nWhen we fight amongst ourselves, those in power benefit. :26559:\nIt's an old tactic, but it works like a charm. It's no surprise that West termed it divide and conquer." ], [ "A solid 7/10 for me. The acting is superb, especially the boy and the antagonist.\nIt's a shame that this movie does not make it into our cinema." ], [ "The scary part is, this might be us in 10 years' time if things continue like this. But with the roles reversed in the movie of course.", "I've a theory that the director reverse the roles on purpose, to tell the story and let the viewers to imagine this very aspect. Something like the movie Life of Pi. (I didn't google the director and how the movie is developed, so take it with a bucket of salt)", "In a Madani Malaysia ? I thought thats the reason you guys voted, for this particular dystopia to not happen ?", "Well we voted yes, didn't we? /s\n(If you didn't get the reference, go watch the movie)", "They vote to fight corruption and put corrupt UMNO in jail. Wait a minute.." ], [ "7/10. The acting is believable and tbh, a number of scenes that would guarantee LPF’s ire. No sugarcoating of the issue at hand, which I appreciate. There’s only hints of what triggered the dystopian era of Pendatang that warrants a whole prequel (and more crowdfunding 🙏🏻). Someone here gave some criticism of the film, but hey, we’ll take what we can get.\nNo spoilers, but “If you think this has a happy ending, you weren’t paying attention”, contrary to most local films (and as much as you’d hope for it here!)." ], [ "film feels unfinished and left me blue balled. nice concept yeah. it's like watching one punch man season 2" ], [ "The sad reality is that this will very likely be Malaysia’s future if we continue down the current path. This is basically PAS’s wet dream to command and conquer the nons. 😆" ], [ "I have Malaysian Tamil friends who called Bangladeshi 'pendatang' one time - I thought that was ironic. It's all relative, I guess.", "Ironic how ? Is it coz the majority already biasa with calling the minority pendatang ?", "Because some of them arrived here like two generations ago.", "And ? Their offsprings are born and raised here, work at the same place and pay the same taxes, still wanna call them pendatang ?", "And those pendatang Bangladeshis are paying taxes, working at the same place and their children will be born and raised here as well. So maybe don't call anybody 'pendatang'?", "You dont get the point do you ? You says it's \"ironic\" implying that a Pendatang is calling another person Pendatang padahal Malaysian Indians are born and raised here as a Malaysian citizen. Are those Bangladeshi born and raised here ? If not what's wrong with calling them pendatang ? Even government also called foreigners pendatang, hence the term \"Pendatang Asing Tanpa Izin\", of course those with permit will be Pendatang Asing Dengan Izin. It's fine to call a foreigner pendatang, but it's not cool when you use that term to refer to another fellow Malaysian", "You realize when a Bumi calls a Non as pendatang, they are using it as a slur to put them down as a race and not as an individual?\nEdit:\nLet me add more to drive this home - the reason the term 'Pendatang' is offensive is not simply because it is factually wrong - obviously when a Bumi does that, they were referring to the Nons' parents or grandparents who were technically pendatang - it's the way to put them down as a race - that slur is not targeting individuals the way you think.\nSo the irony is using the same slur to other people when the exact same slur can be used against your own grandparents.\nMore edit:\nYou can also see the example of the n-word on Black people. That word is not technically referring to today's Black people as they are no longer slaves - however, it was historically used in a derogatory way by white people during the era of slavery and segregation in the United States to belittle and dehumanize Black people." ], [ "downloaded and will watch it on the plane tomorrow night. i dont think its gonna be too spicy so i wont hold my breath:26554:", "There are casual racism thrown about in the film, the ones we hear everyday. What I like is the tension that starts right at the beginning. Its there and simmering at the surface, But once it goes brutal, it really does go brutal.", "I think the casual racism is what hits close to home. I have family members who talk about why Malaysia is a good country, why Malaysians are good people, but continue to shit on Malays and Chinese as if they're vermin\nIt's the casual racism that leads to disunity" ], [ "I applaud the team that put this together. It casts a spotlight on our inherent race divide, observable on a daily basis, but often tough to do anything about." ], [ "To be honest, hoping that this got sequel with superb character, more budget and Worldbuilding." ], [ "So basically a Malaysian-Chinese version of \"bajrangi bhaijaan\"?\nThe film where salman khan who played as a honest (lurus bendul) hindu man found a little mute pakistani girl in india, and eventually after finding out that she is a muslim from pakistan struggles to bring her back.\nAll while the authority tried to stop him and even arrest him thinking that he is a spy/traitor?\nI havent watch the film, but why does it always be cina & melayu?\nWhy cant it be cina & india or dayak & india or even semai & cina?\nYeah i get it, melayu = majority = easy target.\nBut i hope to see a much broader view, racism also happen amongs minority. Its not like there is no tension between the chinese and indian and other minorities.\nAlso the premise is not logical, so in a dystopian future where the Melayu became so extreme that they began segregating the other races, and give them houses and even prepared an area exclusively for these people....\nInstead of just chase them out of the country?\nSo right now in our current time the chinese already has their own school, businesses, and while they are no \"chinese area\" there are houses/condos that the resident is almost exclusively 60% chinese.\nAnd in a \"dystopian\" version of Malaysia, they now have their own \"area\"?\nLike a full on state/daerah only for chinese?\nLike Penang? Or forest city?", "Maybe you should watch the movie first?" ], [ "In terms of message and storyline, I like it. But in terms of the way they tell the story, this is incomplete (the reason that led to segregation, the ending etc.). You can have an open-ended ending, but this is too sudden and I feel like it should have a few more seconds at the end showing a \"climax\" or scene that makes the audience feel curious and want to know more/guess the future of the characters as well as the story.\nOr are they making Pendatang 2 in the future?\nDisclaimer (huh?): Just my thought as someone who loves to watch Netflix" ], [ "I liked it I also liked how they presented the Cinas as voting for apartheid rather than taking the easy option and blaming extremist Malays. That worked well to reduce the partisan sentiments. They avoided a bumi v non storyline which was impressive. The title makes it pretty clear where the criticism is aimed and also why this would never pass govt censorship" ], [ "Could be better, the cinematography and editing is superb, the acting is pretty nice, other than the asthma kid. But the writing is so insanely subpar, big waste imo." ] ]

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[ [ "Survey disguised as a question" ], [ "Commitments:\nnetflix: 10\nspotify: 15\nyoutube prem: 17.90\ndisney plus: 54/3mnts\nunifi: 289.54\ncar (jan 2028): 664\npc installment (nov 2024): 371\nmobile (dec 2024): 190\nstudent loan (2050): 500\ngroceries: ~400\ntotal/mth: RM 2475.44\nM33 single, living with parents still, giga sadge life D;", "Bro if you using Android phone just cancel Spotify, YouTube premium, it's unnecessary to pay when the modded apps are available for free", "You are the only person I know on this whole planet to subscribe to YouTube Premium.", "I subscribe it too..", "LMAO", "Compared to what it costs in the US, RM17.90 is cheap for me", "It's not about the price. RM17.90 is pretty affordable for most people but it is the value. I fail to see the advantages of subscribing to YouTube Premium.", "The biggest advantage to YT Premium is no more ads.", "You can have that by using the Brave browser. I have been using adblockers on Chrome and now Brave browser to avoid ads on YouTube. This is the main reason why YouTube Premium doesn't sell for me.", "I use YT over a phone, a tab, an iPad, and Firestick. Much easier to pay for Premium and have adfree access over any device than whatever brave browser you need to install. I'm also paying for my auntie and she's happy that she doesn't have to listen to ads when she's listening to her opera too.", "what?? i pay less than 6 ringgit a month???", "Can reduce on mobile..no need expensive package due to you probably have WiFi in house already..\nUse XOX prepaid instead... Only RM 10/mth\nCan downgrade the unifi too 100mbps is good enough", "phone plan package, planning to reduce it once I finished paying the contract", "", "Disney+ has natgeo section" ], [ "Patreon (5.00) for content of course 😏", "for culture", "supporting a friend ;)", "GaelForce Audios cough cough", "RM5.00 or USD$5.00?", "Rm" ], [ "I subscribe to Maybank hire purchase, 970 per month. Fml", "What car?", "Vios" ], [ "Digi RM40.", "I’m below 24 so I get the subsidised one only rm20 a month 😙", "How much quota?", "20gb + 1gb hotspot + unlimited social media + unlimited calls", "Oh, ok I didn't miss much" ], [ "Spotify - 10 Tvb - 20 Disney +, Prime, HBO go - on rotation. 30 Netflix - 50" ], [ "Ff14 sometimes, genshin welkin(idk if this counts as subscription)" ], [ "YouTube Premium @ RM17.90/month - I technically only want the music to replace Spotify, but it's inseparable from YouTube so why not?\nMullvad VPN @ 5 euros/month - I don't like being snooped on\nI also used to play WoW for USD15/month. Hmm. Maybe I should pick it up again.", "Any reason why not surfshark? I use that and it’s pretty cheap", "No reason; I just researched the one with the right balance of price, speed, privacy and ethics and Mullvad came out top.", "Since you’re already using vpn, why not sub YouTube from another country? I sub from Argentina for RM3 per month", "I could, it just feels like it's such a hassle. I have a (uncorroborated) feeling that Google already knows where I live, so if I suddenly subscribed from Argentina they might go \"aw hell no\" 😅\nI mean, wouldn't it be weird that my IP is only Argentine when I'm subscribing, and at all other times I'm in Selangor?\nBut mostly it's just laziness." ], [ "Spotify family RM23.90 monthly\nNetflix standard RM45 monthly\nDisney+ Hotstar RM54.90 every 3 months\nThe Star ePaper RM150 annually\nMicrosoft 365 ~RM200 every 15 months\nI consider my phone and Internet as bills and not subscriptions.", "The only reoccurring bill payment I currently have is phone bills hahaha! So lumped it together with subscriptions.", "Is Disney worth it?", "I like Star Wars and the occasional Marvel contents so I'm in the target market. And many parents would have no choice because their kids would want to watch Disney and Pixar contents. But otherwise, hard sell admittedly. Also we don't get the actual Disney+ like in the States, but a localised version called Disney+ Hotstar, so there are some local contents. But this also means no feature parity with Disney+. Heck, it just got multiple profile selection few days ago.\nStill, though, just around 220 a year is quite a good deal for people like me.", "Dude wanna share microsoft 365 account?", "Naah, I'm out of shares." ], [ "OnlyFa...ahem Youtube Premium RM17.90/mth Spotify RM15.90/mth Netflix RM55/mth Playstation Plus RM460/yr Microsoft 365 RM219/yr", "No family plan for Spotify/ YouTube premium?", "nope, I am the only one in my family using these online services.", "Is YT music not good enough that u still subs spotify?", "I subcribe YT premium mostly for the ad free feature. The YT music's algorithm is meh, and it don't support as many platform as spotify does e.g. ps5, watch OS. Plus, YT music UI really need some improvement." ], [ "Spotify and chatgpt plus. About 130/month.\nStudent/part time programmer so its worth it.", "I’m a data scientist and damn ChatGPT saved my life. Defs worth it 👍" ], [ "Youtube Premium @ RM17.90 monthly\nMicrosoft 365 Family @ RM359.00 yearly", "You can buy Microsoft 365 from local retailers instead. They sell for around 200 and it will still add 15 months to your subscription.", "Damn it! Should have done more research about it..", "Or you could just use Microsoft 365 the online trial version infinitely, just saying", "It would be headache to manage all the accounts trial rotation", "All of it is at once, no need to rotate between applications\nhere check it out if this could fulfill your needs\nWell technically you won't OWN the programs, but you should be able to USE it for free" ], [ "Paul Cassidy OF,Matt Convard OF,Matt Rife OF.\nYeah ik gay cornstars. Total RM78.90 / Month. Paul cassidy have tier. I sub the Gay tier.", "Damn that’s a huge amount. But heck as long as our money brings us joy 😌" ], [ "Youtube premium (33.9), spotify family (24.9), icloud cheapest (3.9)\n= 62.7", "I wanted to switch to YouTube music cause it’s more worth it. But I couldn’t give up Spotify 🥲" ], [ "Youtube premium at 17.90 (I could listen to podcast w/o ads on my phone or listen to music at YT Music and my children can watch YT Kids on our TV). I've been meaning to change to Durioo+ but too pricey.\nCelcom at 90 + 200 (unlimited data for home fibre and I also paid for my line & my mom's line also unlimited data)", "Durioo+ is expensive plus not enough content." ], [ "Youtube Premium (33.90 for 6 pax) and Netflix" ], [ "cat food. i am now in charge of 3 cats. cost me around 300 monthly.\nstrays get the balance food that they dont finish. considering to send the female strays for neutering when theyre older.\nalso if anyone wants to sponsor cat food for the strays i m willing to accept.", "I have a dog as well. We feed her rice and chicken. Vet says it’s healthier cause no sodium + whatever else is added into dog food. It’s cheaper too perhaps you can consider it just that it’s more effort to cook", "You can also buy unwanted parts like chicken butt, organs etc which may be cheaper", "thats true. just that i m taking care of them myself, kinda got forced into the situation where they became my responsibility. cooking, grocery shopping etc can take up time and effort, so my best compromise was just getting cat food directly. it might sound like an excuse and i can tell you directly i m lazy. but i ensure that at the very least my 3 cats are fed well before handing out the leftovers to the strays.", "No judgement! Love that you’re feeding strays as well 🥰 whatever fits our lifestyle honestly. My mom cooks it. If it were up to me, I work full time soo wouldn’t have the time to do it either." ], [ "Arr arr arr arr arr arr arr" ], [ "YouTube Premium Family, some Patreons of YouTubers I watch, some YouTube memberships, Discord Nitro\nI'm personally not responsible for paying for Spotify but we also have Spotify Premium Familly." ], [ "Spotify family : rm3.9/month\nNetflix family : rm8/month\nYoutube premium family : rm7/month\nAdobe illustrator (ipad) : rm60/month\nNintendo switch online family : rm5/month\nOthers subscription : uh when needed" ], [ "Genshin welkin: rm20\nUmobile: rm38\nPatreon: rm75\nMedical card: rm140\nSanford guide: rm100/year" ], [ "Myself personally:\niCloud RM 3.90\nApple Music RM 16.90\nRealDebrid RM 45.00 every 3 months" ], [ "phone plan rm20? wtfff", "If you’re below 24, there are prepaid plan subsidised by the government.\nFor rm20 I’m getting 20gb + 1gb hotspot + unlimited social media + unlimited calls.\nReally great deal honestly and young people should take advantage of this. But many I know are put off cuz “prepaid seems shitty”." ], [ "Spotify: RM15.90/month\nNetlfix: RM45/month\nPrime: RM 12/month (sharing with friend)\niCloud: RM3.90/month\nMaxis: RM165/month (got shared line)\nGrab/Shopee Paylater: every month maybe RM50-100", "Don’t use spaylater. There are hidden fees." ], [ "YouTube Premium (MYR 17.9) - benci tengok iklan. ReVanced is not available on PC.", "Ublock origin + sponsor blocked" ], [ "Youtube premium family plan. Other streaming come with unipi subs+netflix full hd. Also pay for prime rm25. So got saving a lot also. Hahaha. Oh vpn for accessing other country content.\nWill stop spotify since i use youtube music more. Will end on jan 2024." ], [ "Spotify Rm15, Prime Rm19.40, Netflix rm40+, Hbo rm40+, Patreon usd20, youtube rm17.90." ], [ "Alldebrid for RM15.00 and 1TB seedbox for RM20" ], [ "Its crazy how ppl here still use YT premium. I literally just use Revanced Extanded or just YT revanced. Why wasting money on YT when you can use modded one for free" ], [ "Spotify:15\nMaxis: 129\nicloud:3.90\nGoogle One: 9\nWar Thunder: idfk anymore😔" ], [ "YouTube Premium 11/month iCloud and google storage is tempting but I have to keep paying every month which is ridiculous." ] ]

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[ [ "Dark Bang Non story arc incoming", "lmao, US have Dark Brandon, we have Dark Bangnon" ], [ "So symbolic, seizing his erection" ], [ "Probably will end up nothing. Dont so high hope. But still got a bit hope for incoming Agong that promises to clean corruption.", "He’s Mahathir’s man - probably fair game now since Mahathir has trouble protecting himself now", "He's Mahathir's money man - expect M to lash out sooner or later🤭", "Agong recommendation will take many years to implement. PMX especially doesn’t bother to do anything fast, except discharge people.\nTransparently corrupt.", "When MACC arrest someone, people like you say, \"it's politically motivated, MACC is not independent\". When MACC is slow to arrest someone, then you say, \"PMX doesn't bother to do anything fast\".\nMACC and AG are independent - the fact that he doesn't interfere with their work is good. Charges take time to investigate. You think all these corrupt people leave the evidence all over the shop like Najib and Rosmah?", "MACC and AG are independent - the fact that he doesn't interfere with their work is good. Charges take time to investigate. You think all these corrupt people leave the evidence all over the shop like Najib and Rosmah?\nMACC has never been independent. Let's not be so naive. No need reply until you've read this thoroughly:\nMalaysia's Anti-Corruption Watchdog May be Too Far Gone to Fix\n//\nAnwar literally interferes with MACC and he's proud of it. A PM's role, by law, with MACC is to appoint a Chief Commissioner. That's it. Done. Habis. Go home and manage your Cabinet.\nPM orders MACC, Bank Negara to probe monetary losses due to corruption\nPM Anwar issues ultimatum to ‘political leader’ to return allegedly stolen property, money or face investigation\nNone of this interference is new. Did you just move to Malaysia? Why didn't MACC investigate Najib & Rosmah before GE14? Apa sebab itu?\nFear of ruling politicians = not actually fucking independent", "U mcm spin doctor. Catch ppl also wrong.. Don't catch also wrong. Continue to spin and be in your own world.", "How is this confusing?\nMACC only catches corrupt people when it’s convenient. Itu salah.\nMACC ignores scandals when it’s convenient. Itu pun salah.", "That's not interference. Referring a suspect or suspicious matter to the MACC, Police, or AGC, is just like anyone (including me or you) making a report to such authorities. They will do their investigations independently, and will then decide whether to go further or not, without the influence of whoever reported the matter, even if it was referred to them by the PM.", "You didn't read the article, did you? If you won't bother to listen to whistleblowers inside MACC, but instead believe politicians, what's the point?\nEmbarrassing. Ada pemberi maklumat, tp rakyat masih ikut2 politicians.\n//\nAnwar is not filing an MACC report: Anwar is giving an order. Filing an MACC report need not ever open any investigation.\nOrder != filing a report\nAnyone can fucking file a report. MACC can sit back and do nothing. Anwar is literally attempting to interfere with MACC by giving an order.\nWhat can the order do? Well, Anwar can simply pressure or dismiss the Chief Commissioner. Why would they listen? Oh, yeah, Anwar appoints them.\nUnbelievably naive.", "Common people file reports. The PM can \"instruct\" MACC to look into matters i.e. open an investigation. But im quite sure at most, the PM gets a report on the investigation, but doesn't make the call whether is a case, and whether to prosecute further.\nYou probably have a poor understanding of the concept of being \"independent\".", "That's already interference, but you seem to have a child's understanding of public institutions.\nMACC officers are public servants. No politician should be giving them any orders.\nHopefully, you're nowhere near a Government agency lmao. Hilarious to see you slowly backtrack as you need to cover for PMX (and Najib, Muhyiddin, Mahathir, etc. that all did the same).", "What rubbish are you talking? Everybody answers to somebody in government. The MACC are independent, but within the statutes of the law.\nDemonstrated by PMX many times. He can call the AGC to account for their decisions, but he cannot force AGC to prosecute or stop pursuing a case. He can ask AGC to look into a matter, but the AGC is well within its power to not pursue the case if there is no case to be made after their investigations.", "This ignorance is astounding. Please don’t delete your comments.\nNo, public servants only answer to other public servants. Everything else is chit chat.\nSpeaking is also not the same as an order. PMX ordered specific investigations. That’s interference. That’s simply not allowed. MACC cannot ever act on an order from a politician. It’s outside their legal jurisdiction. Public institutions are bound by their founding Act.\nI can also speak to the AGC. I can’t order the AGC. Especially to take any action.\nI appreciate all the nonsense, /u/rmp20002000, for its hilarity, but please don’t vote. 😂😂 Looking at your apparently previous comments, I don’t need to worry.\nI hope you can find a classmate to argue with, but this is enough nonsense for me. Godspeed and good luck: you’ll need it." ], [ "Later, invited to go drink teh & eat kuih at macc...." ], [ "About damn time Anwar does something useful." ], [ "baru sekarang nak buat. Lambat la lagi bila masuk kajang baru start buat." ], [ "Daim is 1 of mahathir's big sponsors. I think this is politically motivated.", "Politically motivated or not, at least they are going after this whale. Daim is definitely not clean." ], [ "I seriously doubt anything happening. Want investigate this guy for corruption would have done so decades ago. Now wayang abit and solve behind the scene.", "Unless he is the one funding PN (rumours lah)." ], [ "Politically motivated?" ], [ "Boleh Kasi settle mia." ], [ "" ], [ "Daim and Mahathir appointed Vincent Tan to run Sports Toto. Vincent Tan also did a share swap with Daim's Raleigh, which was loss making. So, I think Daim and Mahathir owns a chunk of Berjaya Toto via nominees. Daim also uses local Private Equity funds as nominees to invest in mid cap companies." ] ]

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[ [ "Missing HAN-SGN and DWB-DOH.", "International", "DWB-DOH is international though\nHAN-SGN is also........ i n t e r n a t i o n a l if you ask any (South) Vietnamese HA HA HA\nEdit:\nAdded (South)\nHAN-SGN ~26 scheduled flights a day and they use the wide bodies - B777, B787, A359, etc." ] ]

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[ [ "Here we go again. The usual old bollocks narrative" ], [ "Which PAS-tard want to go all tomatofaced in parliment like that \"PhD\" Siti Fistula this time?", "Lmao fistula" ], [ "So? Bukanya paksa pergi beli nombor ekor pun.", "Don't you know they will get converted to Christianity if they ever see a cross?", "No wonder they failed maths.", "Maths, common sense and much more sadly, And they're gaining support!", "\"Cikgu tak boleh pangkah kat jawapan saya, nanti saya jadi Kristian.\"\n\"Siapa yang kata?\"\n\"Mak saya yang kata. Nenek saya yang kata. Atuk saya yang kata.\"\n\"Bapa kata apa?\"\n\"Bapa kata kalau nampak pangkah, saya akan jadi Buddhist atau Hindu.\"\n\"Iman kau itu lemah sangat ke kalau nampak pangkah saja boleh tukar agama.\"\n\"Ya.\"\n\"Siapa yang kata?\"\n\"Ustaz kat masjid yang kata.\"", "Fr, these Pastards are paranoid mereka akan hilang deposit undi that the Muslims will mass murtad to the other side if they see other religious symbols or even step a tiny toe onto a floor of a church or temple.\nMore than that, they care more about losing Muslim followers in numbers than actually addressing why it might happen.\nGeng serbanistan ni je tak faham Muslim boleh murtad en mass hanya sebab hipokrasi ketua2 dan menteri2 yg menunggang agama utk control undi mereka.", "This is what some unironically believe to be honest.", "Sabah Christian billboard would like to say hi to this comment.", "Honestly this is what pissed me whenever I want to play chess during school... They keep damaging the pieces with this reason" ], [ "God, at this point, they should just say that all non-Muslims shouldn't be an MP and turn Malaysia into an unelected Taliban country already, the anti-democracy mental gymnastics they're pulling...", "they should just say that all non-Muslims shouldn't be an MP\nThey did insinuate, and it's their main selling point to their target audience.\nHadi: Other races are challenging Muslim's political power: https://www.nst.com.my/news/politics/2023/08/939467/voting-mandatory-if-other-races-are-challenging-muslims-political-power\nHadi: Non-Muslims must be grateful for ‘being given a place’ here, should just let Malays continue leading country: https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2023/06/07/hadi-non-muslims-must-be-grateful-for-being-given-a-place-here-should-just-let-malays-continue-leading-country/73042\nHadi: Only Islam can rule, others must be 'pak turut': https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/357628\nPAS politicians insinuated that their rivals are the enemies of Allah: https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2023/06/27/pas-man-says-sorry-after-calling-on-allah-to-defend-kedah-from-enemies-video/76640", "So, basically peak hypocrisy while vehemently criticising Israel Zionism, they themselves are also spouting the same racial/religious superiority BS.", "Here's a good read on Hypocrisy and Fascism: https://hac.bard.edu/amor-mundi/hypocrisy-and-fascism-2018-08-12", "Fascism requires an imaginary enemy that is both ridiculously powerful that can take away your belongings while being so weak that as long as you give us power we can stop THEM.\nGuess who’s this imaginary enemy?", "Got one Malay artist (can't remember the name) said that Adolf Hitler and the Nazis should have wipe out the Jews. She immediately lost contract with the music label (not sure which one) that she was signed with. She even have the guts to say she does not care if she lost the contract as she is said she proud to be anti-Jews and stood by her words.", "Well most of the Zionist is the migrants brought by surprise surprise the British.", "I would love to give this to Hadi's facebook page and waiting for his reply: Ini agenda DAP Komunis Zionist.", "Man they are clearly asking for UN sanctions and global isolation if they dare to pull such act unless they pull an Israel or Saudi style PR to absolve from their crimes", "We already have 9 kings for that, who the hell wanna have these low birth PAS plebs.", "that's the goal" ], [ "The Fitnahs getting better day by day, while getting further away from God day by day." ], [ "Also PAS when in government: Increase cabutan judi from 8 to 22. Lol" ], [ "Idk. Making fun of Pas is like making fun of OKU nowadays.", "I'm ok with making fun of bad faith actors OKU.", "One time when I was trying to say the R word, I blurted out \"Pastard\" instead. They are that OKU that a new word is created after them." ], [ "Why do i feel like there’s an uprise in misuse/overuse of the word ‘legit’ recently. Or am i missing some new slang.", "there’s an uprise in misuse/overuse of the word ‘legit’ recently.\nPeople suffering from Dunning Kruger effect usually abuses words they don't understand.", "Im surprised there’s a name for it" ], [ "Option A: Inform the rakyat about what I can do.\nOption B: Inform the rakyat about what I somehow magically know someone else will do even though there's 0 evidence to back it up.\nPAS: Saya pilih B, Halim." ], [ "Siapa yang bertanggungjawab untuk memastikan bahawa umat Islam yang alim tak masuk tempat dosa macam ni? Aku tanya, siapa yang bertanggungjawab?\nSebab PAS memang tak bertanggungjawab. Ustaz pun tak bertanggungjawab. Ibubapa umat Islam tak nak bertanggungjawab langsung. Jadi kita mahu DAP bertanggungjawab untuk kita punya orang.\nWe can't take care of our own, guys, make the kafirs do it instead!", "It's the non Muslims fault for not upholding Muslim values. /s" ], [ "The thing is that kedai judi haram is everywhere rn, not only in Selangor.", "The worst thing is that they are not referring to kedai judi haram. These are lawful businesses. They just want none of it. Like how they banned 4d shops in Kedah", "Feel like they're just catering to the masses. But with DAP as scapegoat.", "I actually love how they think when they get rid of licensed 4d shops, the underground 4d shops would gone as well", "Its never about the getting rid of 4d shop, its only about being terpaling islam and defacing DAP at the same time. It not only consolidated their own voters, its also making on the fence conservative new voters leaning their side.\nIf they actually serious on getting rid of them, they would change the law in the parliament during their time", "If it's a gimmick, then I would say it's a quite a successful gimmick from them. Their job is made easier when they have a large pool of loyal voters, so what they are doing is they're trying to rope the on the fence conservatives in, like what you said.", "Yeah, on the surface they might ban these premises and rail against them, but you never know whether they're making untung from the underground side.\nBesides, one Penasihat Agama was found berdakwah in a night club yoinks ago, so maybe a few of these serbanistans might also berdakwah in underground gambling establishments:26554:", "I remember that vid of the penasihat agama having a good time with some thots in the club. Lol funny shit.", "The funnier shit are certain imams who are defending his gelagat at the club. They could've threw him under the bus, but maybe they can't cos boss penasihat tu either bayar banyak or ugut mereka.", "Typical walaun behavior i guess." ], [ "PAS only knows how to slander and mislead, any major developments to improve their state? Goose eggs." ], [ "Apa salah judi, arak & urut?", "Pada masa yang sama?", "Don’t tempt me with a good time. That sounds amazing" ], [ "so sad that since you were born, parents took care of you, then teachers and lecturers to grow your mind and when you become adult, become absolute incoherent trash. shame all the knowledge wasted on you, could have been given those opportunities to the have-nots so they can be a better educated and contributing people. instead of daily war mongering idiots. say that islam is a religion of tolerance but hypocritical fruitcakes." ], [ "Source: Trust me bro, I’m PAStard." ], [ "they continue to do that, they just chasing hard working malaysia who could have contributed to malaysia to Singapore and US.\nGrab got snatch up by Singapore. you have Ronnie Cheng doing so well in US. Then you wonder why the exchange rate is 3.5 and 4.6 when we have vastly more resources than our neighbor who have to buy water from us.\nand to an extend, that exactly what they wanted. but not seeing the big picture. they just losing talent and monopolies like grab, then have to complain about boycotting them." ], [ "Fitnah masuk neraka" ], [ "This is exactly why intelligent nons won’t vote PAS." ], [ "Sue PAS for defamation", "PAS had lost countless defamation suits. It takes several years to reach a verdict. By then, damage has been done.\nI suspect the cost of payment has also been factored into their propaganda budget. That’s why they couldn’t be bothered by the threat of lawsuits." ], [ "While I get why 4d is considered gambling since it's a game of chance, I can never understand why it's treated like it's some sort of casino.\nLike, something must be very wrong in your life for you to lose all your money in 4d." ], [ "PAS wants local council election to pass law that is legal to fk your own kids" ], [ "Sounds cool, they should do it." ], [ ":29091:" ], [ "wasnt it moo that made it easier to set up gambling shops? i remember reading on it" ], [ "Pas opportunities to open more Majlis!", "More pervertic Ustazs" ], [ "Never complaint bila bayar tax? Lol" ], [ "The problem is, I always remember every bulan puasa these are the regular people coming to buy \"black packages\" in broad daylight. And one of them are the executive people in majlis agama" ], [ "Wonder what educated muslim think about PAS…" ], [ "gambling is a money sink, why not gamble with businesses instead? If you gotta lose that money, at least do it productively. in gambling the house always wins.\nvery rarely do i see people go to gambling establishments for private person to person gambling.\nthe lottery is a weird discussion though and usually the only time in western countries where they run is if the profits are proven to go somewhere productive or that the entire pot is given - costs (yes umno has actually used lottery to fund themselves before).\nNothing wrong with alcohol and massage shops, just dont compare public indecency laws that should be enforced against sharia law." ], [ "Mf was born recently and already know how to join a political party to talk shit to other party(s)" ], [ "Least retarded PAS statement" ], [ "Always play the Blame part.. as if they are like totally Holy and have done nothing wrong... but yet the states under PAS party territory are the worst in contributing tax and have done nothing/no improvement for the public in terms of improvement of infrastructure and public transport as if they just don't feel like doing anything to help out at all.\nDriving from KL to places like Terengganu and other spots which are under the PAS state government, is like driving from the modern era back to the 80s. You want to see people using water buffalo to ploy the farm, lots of bikes and not many cars, and pumping petrol but can't use credit cards (ie. some need to walk into the counter to pay using a credit card, but the pumping machine itself doesn't have a credit card machine) a very layback, outskirt, slow pace life. No need to travel far, just drive from KL to states under the PAS government, and you will have a feel for it." ], [ "I get gambling and alcohol but what's wrong with massage parlours lol" ], [ "u/jwteoh come do ur thing" ], [ "With this kind of politics and narratives, it's no wonder they would run the country to the ground just like Afghanistan." ], [ "Takpe...tutup kedai judi ...bukak telegram cari. Megawin888 Awekvcs.. Bukan.twitter...cari awek ds.." ], [ "To open gambling shop, u need license. And the number of license is fixed. And has been like that for years.\nProof that PISS should never hold any power in govt. Local law pun xtau." ], [ "Local council elections needed as real ppl who live there can bring change. Look at Kangar. Google the store Kangar then change to 2014. 2014 had Lintasan,Trees. Then they remove because MPK(Appointed by UMNO) said so without any consensus. FUCK YOU UMNO DESTORYED MY FUCKING CITY. now under PN, they fired the MPK and hired a new guy who isn't a politician and now Kangar got Upgrade,pavement fixed,even fixed the old trees,added more greenery and green spaces. Just go to Google maps. Fuck you UMNO for fucking ruining Kangar. Kangar Lama and China town became Roadised under UMNO. Kangar used to be walkable in the 2010's. Fuck you UMNO. Will never fucking vote UMNO.", "I even wrote a fucking letter to then UMNO MPK proposing to him to fix the Pasar Malam Lot and add pathways because there was a long grassfield near the drain at Taman Sena but nothing happened. Now under new Independent MPK, look what happen. I just gave idea to them theu Telegram now look Taman Sena, under construction. They fixed the old toilet awam,added pathways, Kangar Lama now got pedestrianised. China Town have limited car entry time for non residents.\nOf course PN is fucking winning. They hire real people in Perlis where BN have been syok sendiri for the past fucking 61 Years.\nNow Business wise, you can do any business. Under PN, Perlis is better. Fuck you UMNO." ], [ "Sarahan DAPigs - lobai berserban" ] ]

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[ [ "did you need to sit for the CLP upon returning to Malaysia?\nNope.\nAlso, as I didn't sit the SPM, would I need to take the BM exam?\nYes and you have two choices. Either take the BM exam (via SPM) or do the oral BM exam administered by the LPQB. I did the latter during my pupillage.\nSource: did the Bar, practiced, and now in-house.", "Thanks for your help! I think I'll take the oral exam instead of SPM.\nIf you don't mind me asking, can a fresh grad end up working in-house right away? I don't feel as if law firms are a right fit for me, I'd rather work in a company's legal department instead. Don't want to make partner, don't want to dedicate my life to climbing the corporate ladder. I'm happy remaining an employee my whole working life.", "can a fresh grad end up working in-house right away?\nYes.\nHowever, not many companies hire fresh grads and the ones that do would have highly questionable work environments.\nYMMV.\nEdit: it will be a great waste of time and money for you to be doing the Bar and then ending up as a legal executive without any practicing experience. If this is your intended path, just skip the Bar and proceed to enter the work force. You'll be doing yourself a favour." ], [ "Just gonna add a few more points which may be useful:\nBefore registering for uni, make sure that the law course is recognized by the Malaysian Bar - IIRC, around 12-13 years ago a batch of students completed a Taylor's law degree but were not permitted to take the CLP as the degree was not recognized. The list of recognized qualifications for entry into the Malaysian Bar can be viewed at https://www.lpqb.org.my/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=47&Itemid=61 , whereas the list of recognized courses for CLP can be viewed at https://www.lpqb.org.my/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=91&Itemid=77\nI'l defer to u/Emacah on this particular point, as he/she has taken the LPQB BM exam, but from what I understand the LPQB exam is much harder than SPM BM. Something you may like to consider is sitting for the other BM exams accepted by the LPQB listed here: https://www.lpqb.org.my/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=52&Itemid=77" ] ]

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[ [ "Spike because the cases got reported or last month of the year, police last minute process the case for kpi?", "Gonna be honest\nIt's the yearly \"Kelantan makin teruk\" when it spiked from 90s to 110s (ie 20ish %) while ignoring the total case by country is in the thousands\nIs it bad for Kelantan(or any other states) to have a rise in cases? Yes\nIs the majority of Redditors pretending such cases didn't happen in their own states? Also yes\nTruth to be told, the only reason we keep hearing about Kelantan is because for some reason, every year, only Kelantan Police Chief are worrying about this issue.\nOther states police don't dare make statement on this", "You can count me out from your statement.\nThe main reason why I will pick on Kelantan criminal case raising is that PAS playing the religious sentiment. Coldplay consert is maksiat, pawagam is maksiat, kedai Judi is maksiat, no shari'a law means maksiat. Then look at kelantan so holy (solat jumaat, every shop need to closed, no migle between man & women) without these maksiat and still criminal case raising, now who to blame.\nI can gave another example. Pas say banjir at Penang & Selangor because DAP, then when banjir at kelantan dugaan tuhan. Please don't make a echo chamber of yourself\nEdit To summarize : Kelantan is claimed to be the holiest place in Malaysia. Other state are terjerumus in the sea of maksiat. Now result prove otherwise because criminal case raising. So I laugh at kelantan.", "PAS more worried about pressing issues facing the rakyat...such as \"Baju pramugari udara MAS terlalu ketat dan seksi dan menjolok mata\"", "Blame the hypocrisy? 100%, please do\nPAS are penunggangs through and through\nI just wanted to point out every year this same thread comes out due one and only one reason.. it's because Kelantan police Chief are the only state to make a statement on this issue", "No. It’s not. Bukit Aman frequently made this remarks about Kelantan. I have been following similar news. There was another similar news back in August 2023 where Bukit Aman CID director Datuk Seri Abd Jalil Hassan mentioned “Kelantan has one of the highest number of sexual crime cases in the country”. Quoted by NST.\n“Eighty percent of the sexual crimes in Kelantan involved children”.\nWhere as how many percent of sexual crimes in Kelantan vs Malaysia as a whole wasn’t disclosed. Selangor has the highest as of November 2023 which is 2498 cases.\nInvolving children, quoted from an August 2023, D11 unit principle assistant director Siri Kamsiah Hassan said 60% of sexual crimes reported involved children in Malaysia while data for Kelantan is 80%.\nThe data is bits and pieces everywhere. Even Department of Statistics Malaysia Portal does not paint a comprehensive picture. Ie. Race/states/ages are intentionally left out.\nAnother funny thing is: Berita Harian article on the same conference omitted out the Kelantan high crime rate bit.\nMalaysia Boleh.", "Self-censorship huh from Berita Harian to avoid the wrath of the Kelate crowd", "Not pretending that these things don't happen in other states, but statistical-wise Kelantan stands apart from others.\nTo put it simply, if Selangor was to have the same ratio of population to sexual assault cases as Kelantan's , it would have to double it's population.", "No?\n91/2m is only a bit lower than 336/7m(2022 numbers)\nWhere is this \"double\" like the other guy coming from\nSorry like I said, you guys are pretending(or faking data) to fit your own opinions", "If you want accurate data, it’s not 91/2, it’s 91/1.8 and it’s not 336/7, it’s 336/7.2. Half a million difference is a lot.\nAnd with this year new cases, 116/1.8 is literally ~20% jump. It doesn’t matter if Kedah has the highest per capita, it’s still led by PN, specifically PAS. For states that only have roughly 2 millions people, it’s bad.\nIf you compared total number separated by party affiliation, just with Kedah and Kelantan alone, they are still the highest per capita. Almost 30% more than Selangor and Johor for a population of almost 12 millions people.\nThe number speaks for itself. You don’t have to defend them.", "close teeny hobbies threatening steep gray market thought wild fear\nThis post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact", "^ Contoh terkemuka of people not knowing the actual stat", "Do you have a source for that?", "https://www.thestar.com.my/opinion/letters/2022/04/02/sexual-crimes-against-children-up-by-42-wanita-mca-urges-enhancement-of-child-protection\nThis is MCA complaining about the spike from 2020-2021\nUnless there is another announcement of \"kes turun in 2022-2023\" I'm gonna assume the numbers are similar enough", "Child sexual crimes rise 9.5 per cent in Malaysia\nIn terms of sexual crimes by state, Selangor recorded the highest sexual crime involving victims 18 years and below with a total of 338 cases in 2022, followed by Johor (150) and Kedah (149).\nI found another article that shows Selangor has the highest number of cases of sexual crimes against children. However, Selangor has a population of 7.2 millions. Kelantan has a population of 1.8 millions but the number of sexual crime is almost half of Selangor.\nPopulation wise, Kelantan is definitely more rampant for such a small state.", "Just random tidbit\n91(since we're using 2022 numbers, I'm getting it from OP article) is not almost half of 338 xd\nJust from stats alone it seems to be on par with the %?", "So it increases from 91 to 116 in 2023.\nNope. Percentage is still higher in Kelantan by capita in 2022. In fact by crimes per capita, Kelantan is the highest out of all states in 2022. In 2023, Kelantan still remains undefeated.", "116(2023) is still not almost half of 336(2022) unless you fail maths\nHaving 34% of the crimes while being only 25% of population is bad but not \"omg almost half\"\nAnd no, Kedah actually had a higher Sexual crime per capita in 2022.\nThat said, people who's not failing maths knows not to use 2022 numbers of one state to compare to 2023 numbers of another state\nLike I said, you guys likes to pretend data fits to your opinion" ], [ "Damned DAPs...\n/s", "Crime increased in Kelantan due to Lim Kit Siang’s PM remark :26554:", "Everyone suddenly horny after hearing that a non Malay can be a PM...", "Got to conceive the next Malay PM! Quantity counts!", "I am putting $5USD on the table that at least 1% out of 69.9% of the demographics suddenly experiencing acute spontaneous ejaculation and penile spams that they had to do it, the majority of them resided in Kelantan which naturally falls into the category.", "Or non malay cannot speak bahasa..either one or both" ], [ "Boikot seks." ], [ "It must be the lack of religion.", "Hypocris-", "Yes." ], [ "Not surprised,Kelate has some fucked up people even if they preach themselves as a religious state.", "It more like degenerates pretending to be good people. A lot of them are fucking terrible human beings that easily get power trips so damn hard. They pretend to be good and hide under religion but inside, it's just rotten.\nI live here and I hate every single one of them.", "Used to have a kelantanese neighbour and she was what i call the mistress of con. Owning people money and leaving garbage everywhere. Husband was also a dick.", "Always seem like there's nothing to like about Kelantanese. I've repeatedly heard other Malays telling me they don't like them either.", "Other Malays always say they are \"rasis dengan orang Kelantan\" especially among West Coast Malays", "Aren't you working as a pharmacist in tanah merah or Kuala Krai bro.. Must be miserable day in day out surrounded by ppl you dislike. Any chance can get transfer?", "No way to transfer. I just keep it to myself.", "Sounds like munafiquns", "Kelantan a religious state ? LMAO" ], [ "Kelantan, where everybody is too pious or pretending to be, and sexual repression is at an all-time high." ], [ "Buat sibuk DBKL lesen arak, lesen judi, lesen masaj dulu" ], [ "How did DAP get away with this\n/s" ], [ "But, but... what about all these people who are holier than the holiest? Surely they must be doing something about it... maybe praying harder might help! /s" ], [ "More Islam should do the trick" ], [ "Practice Anal Sex", "Bruh 😂😂😂😂😂", "wait till you find out what DAP means in porn lingo...", "Party And Sex" ], [ "If the news is true.....I think.many people will not be surprised by it.", "Well I'm surprised..... By why they even raise concern? It's kelante." ], [ "no sepupupupu there, 99% bumi, PAS controlled, no alcohol in 711, all halal...hmm..wonder why...maybe got secret DAP" ], [ "Negeri K slander, I’ll be there, no matter what" ], [ "Salahan media-media yang asyik membuat laporan menyebabkan statistik di Kelantan semakin tinggi." ], [ "Salah dap lge yahudi" ], [ "What is concerning is that the prepatrators of these crimes are not identified by age.\nSo there is a very real posibility that these are not just merely acts of teens experimenting with sex or even teenager on teenager sexual assault. There might be adult people committing sexual acts on teenagers, which is all the more horrendous because these people should have known better about matters of consent and maturity." ], [ "" ], [ "SEBAB TU SAYA HALALKAN BERKAHWIN SEBELUM UMUR 12. - Hadi /s" ], [ "Pretty ironic that one of the most religious states in malaysia has one of the highest sexual assault cases" ], [ "Quite terrible" ], [ "from a MP that allows it ok???" ], [ "AYO" ], [ "It’s in the books." ], [ "Like always, media does everything they can to make kelantan look bad :26563:" ], [ "Sedak abe sedak, tubik masuk tubik masuk" ], [ "\"How can we blame this on anything but our sex education?\"" ], [ "Ini semua salah DAP!! Mereka semakin berani!!! /s" ], [ "PAS Shariah Compliant" ], [ "Nothing much to do there isit?" ], [ "Clearly because of DAP, the Chinese running the economy and the non Malays not speaking Malay.\nAnd the Yahudis." ], [ "the more you make it taboo, the more you want it" ], [ "that's what you get when you have so much repression in the society." ], [ "Most repressed state in Malaysia, what u think is gonna happen?" ], [ "Well, well, well." ] ]

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[ [ "4 car? yet no insurance? still asking for handout ya?", "I personally know some of the victims, insurance won't pay due to the circumstances (act of god).", "Isn't that what insurance is for?", "They don't cover floods or landslides.", "Not if you choose not to cover Act of God" ], [ "Are they really eligible for compensation?" ], [ "angry at what?" ], [ "Losing cool is normal when facing loss of asset values and uncertain solutions.\nI understand the area was a tin mine, so obviously the ground stability should be rechecked as a start." ] ]

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[ [ "How many of these are Singaporeans going to Malaysia and Malaysians going to Singapore?", "I think most stats remove long term pass holders. Malaysians and Singaporeans going back and forth are still tourists spending, even though it’s just a car ride away.", "Its Kuala Lumpur .. not JB or Malaysia.. so it is tourist statistics", "It’s Kuala Lumpur not Malaysia or JB", "The news [1, 4] is total BS to claim in 2023 and recycled from 2019. The study is on 2019, the original study didn't make the distinction [2] and the study was conducted by Mastercard in 2019 [2, 3].\nRead below quoted from the original study, it is highly likely included all Singaporeans and vice versa; whereas all domestic workers and daily border-crossers from JB to SG are included, as long as they stayed overnight [3].\n\"The Mastercard Global Destination Cities Index ranks 200 cities based on third-party research and proprietary analysis in terms of the number of their total international overnight visitor arrivals and the cross-border spending by these same visitors in the destination cities in 2018, and gives visitor and expenditure growth forecasts.\"\n\"Public data is used in deriving the international overnight visitor arrivals and their cross-border spending in each of the 200 destination cities. Forecasts are based upon the weighted average of the national level tourism forecasts and the actual 2019 monthly data at the destination level, which is available to the latest month before release.\"\n[1] https://travelness.com/most-visited-cities-in-the-world\n[2] https://www.mastercard.com/news/insights/2019/global-destination-cities-index-2019/\n[3] https://www.mastercard.com/news/media/wexffu4b/gdci-global-report-final-1.pdf\n[4] https://seasia.co/2023/12/20/its-official-malaysia-is-the-most-visited-country-in-southeast-asia-in-2023", "lol. Have you seen some malls on the weekend? All SG plates.", "Even in KL?", "that one in JB bro. KL doesn't come close when it comes to the number of SG cars.", "Also, cross-border working between Brunei and Sarawak/Sabah", "You don’t see the statistics for Miri so safe to say it wasn’t counted", "The peak was 1.2 million M'sians visiting SG for sightseeing in 2019, according to official tourism stats. That's out of total 19.1 million international visitors, so the percentage is merely 6%. Those employed in SG aren't counted since immigration will detect them to have work passes.\nBefore the pandemic, the Big 5 inbound markets were from China (3.6m), Indonesia (3.1m), India (1.4m), M'sia (1.2m) & Australia (1.1m) .", "Why does it matter? Every other countries have neighbours too. If their neighbours don’t want to go into their country then that means there’s something wrong with them.", "Why not more Malaysian visited Singapore" ], [ "Congratulations ❤️. Hopefully it will be 🔝5." ], [ "Half of the top 6 in ASEAN", "Including the \"city\" of Bali apparently." ], [ "Ngl, \"Malaysia truly Asia\" is such a successful campaign.", "At the expense of the minorities, we remember when the people in power shouting \"Pendatang\", \"Squatter\" to the Malaysian ethnic minorities. The ethnic majority use the minority when they needed to claim the diversity and selling the multicultural, but in reality, the racism is rooted in the majority of them.\nOpen your senses to absorb Kuala Lumpur’s lively energy!\nThanks to its multicultural mix of Malay, Chinese, and Indian community, the city is home to mosques and temples that stand out from gleaming skyscrapers.\nThis celebration of historical and modern also shows itself in the contrasting high-fashion shopping malls and vibrant street markets.\nSpend your holiday scouting out designer brands and hunting down the best hawker stalls for the best of two worlds.", "Lmao. Do you really need to turn everything into your problem? Get a life dude.", "My life has been great so far. I am just pointing out a fact.", "Stay woke" ], [ "Lived in 2, been to 15. 🧳", "Lived in 2\nMY and SG?", "Bkk and KL (and KK which ought to be on this list!)", "And all of the west European cities are overrated except you like scams or the smell of piss in every street", "I disagree, sure super touristy places are generally places best to avoid, but the cool thing about large cities is that they all have special places where cool people do cool things." ], [ "Bangkok huh, I wonder why.. hmmm", "Speaking of high numbers...", "Lady boy", "The power of weed and happy-ending." ], [ "Most of the cities in the top spots like Bangkok and KL are there due to the fact that their airports are both regional hubs and affordable gateways into SE Asia for Western tourists." ], [ "Lots of people in that thread do not believe Kl is so popular among tourists.", "Very true. Politicians and people aside, I can confidently say KL is undoubtedly among the best cities I've ever been too. Especially when compared to many many cities on whatever international tourism guide." ], [ "Just wondering, has it factored out those only drop by KLIA for transit? Or are the tourist who stay and spend in KL?", "That won't help most of the cities on the list since most of them are transit hub in their respective region.", "Am curious too. Airasia is a hub for budget travel in the region, there will be many transiting through KLIA usually", "Not to mention half of the people visiting Malaysia are from Singapore, it could be same person making multiple visits.", "As long as they spend money here", "IIRC, yeah this is the reason why we rank so high." ], [ "Damn it, we lose to Singapore again. LIKE WHY THEY ARE SO GOOD AT EVERYTHING", "We'd come more often, but HSR dah tak jadi.", "High speed train tu ke? Nak :(", "Frankly speaking, the consensus down here is that HSR would have benefitted Malaysia far more than it would have benefitted Singapore.\nYes, RM 100 billion is no small potatoes. But consider the large tourist receipts, not just from Singaporeans, but also from tourists to Singapore. Imagine all the Mat Salleh tourists flying into Singapore, taking day trips to KL. KL could have gotten a good slice of Singapore's tourism pie.\nImagine MNCs realising that they could set up shop cheaply in KL, and attracting talent from SG. Foreign Direct Investment into Malaysia would have risen dramatically.\nDuring the construction phase itself, imagine all the local Msian companies getting the contracts to build the line. Not just the big construction firms - think of all the ancillary subcontractors, transportation, catering, accommodation... employment would have risen dramatically.\nAnd yeah,lots of Singaporeans like me would come more often. We'll pump our Singdollars into your economy feasting on nasi kandar, shopping at Midvalley Megamall, and having fun at Genting....\nBut alas, it was not meant to be.", "The day tun m cancelled the project was when I was wholeheartedly agreed that this old man has lost his touch and I'm entirely disappointed with the govt. Heck, even a non-hsr railway would work.\nTo go a little bit further, we could've extended it into Thailand. I do understand that a railway to Thailand would be much more difficult due to the insurgencies and such tho. But the least we can do is a damn railway connecting KL to SG. The benefits would undoubtedly outweigh the drawbacks.", "From a political viewpoint I can understand why HSR was cancelled. It was Najib's pet project, after all. Anything he touched would be haram, especially when it comes with a RM100 billion price tag.\nBut from a pragmatic viewpoint, this was one thing that Najib got right. You need to break a few eggs to get a nice telur dadar. RM 100 billion in sunk costs now would translate to much more in revenue in the future.\nRight now down here whenever we hear about proposals to restart the HSR, we'll be like 'Do they even know that flip flopping like roti canai will cost even more than RM 100 billion?'", "If it's just because of that, they would've cancelled TRX or Merdeka tower. Imho, it's more that railway would serve less as a vanity project compared to skyscrapers. We're somewhat obsessed with building towers, malls and such although we already have an abundance of commercial space.\nPlus, having it related with another country might be a factor too. Any megaproject would be subject to corruption or misconduct. It took us about 20 years to put the HSR into discussion. Then it's cancelled simply due to arrogance and shortsightedness.", "meh,itll be like beijing ghost town", "Please take the nasi kandar, but not our nasi lemak", "I had nasi kandar at Penang recently.\nDeens Maju beats Hameediyah. But that's just me.", "That’s why I was so mad when they cancelled it, and then few days ago when tony pua compared it to the fucking free flight ticket. Like, I know that guy is dumb but holy shit.", "Siapa downvote aku, dia kepam." ], [ "Every evening can see alot of India tourist buses making jam worse at KLCC" ], [ "The hell why does anyone wants to visit Singapore or Paris?? One is a dead rock, the other is a shithole.\nPJ better anyday.", "Singapore is good for those who want an Asian experience with the comforts of a developed country.", "Hahaha! What comfort of developed country?? It's just like Malaysia, but more expensive!!", "It's little like MY, tho I do like MY better in many ways.\nThe people are different, the food is different, it's cleaner and more expensive. Plus there's basically no nature there in comparison.", "For that price...I go Japan better...or South Korea. Why want to go Singapore???", "Not denying that, both of those are better imo. Just saying that the 2 aren't very much alike.", "Wrong. Klang better than all three.", "Perlis definitely the only place that matters in Malaysia", "Agree from a Singaporean point of view, don’t know why people wants to see that merlion especially Japanese", "Of course is to use their mouth to collect water sprouting out from Merlion", "I live in Japan and I remember I had this conversation before. Seems like they don't think Merlion is any interesting, but that's the only thing they could think of when Singapore is mentioned so when they go to Singapore it's like waste not to finally see the Merlion lol" ], [ "Bangkok eh? Tourists love them femboys" ], [ "Thisbis based on airport travellers Singapore or KL are hubs for South Asia so many nmdidnt even leave the airport, this is crap... Nobody would go to KL for holidays 😅" ], [ "Visited by Banglas is it?" ], [ "I contributed to Bangkok stats 🚬" ] ]

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[ [ "Bruh that's obviously a scam." ], [ "there you go dont be lazy to do some background research, and you dont have to physically be there to prove anything, we live in an internet era. IF ITS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE THEN IT IS.\n<image>", ":29091:" ], [ "Only retards deal over some where without buyer protection" ], [ "Scam. No need to elaborate, too obvious." ], [ "Can't really say but that's hella suspicious offer" ], [ "Scam.la, if it's too good to be true, it most likely is. Can also check the business address on Google.\nAnother method for buying second hand tech is ask them to take a video with the device + a unique instruction ( a watch or newspaper with the current date and time). Usually only legit sellers comply." ], [ "Scam bro, COD Without \"deposit booking\"" ], [ "too good to be true, it's a scam" ], [ "3050 for 950? Bro ain’t no way lol", "We can only buy the graphic card for that price, let alone a whole laptop lmao." ], [ "Dude, I'm not being racist whatsoever, plus I don't give a damn if anyone wants to call me that, but looking at the written \"dialect\" is already enough to know that it's a freaking scam...\nIf you think it's too good to be true, you're goddamn right it is...", "Yeah true, I aldy know it from the first photo. We can see the dialect not fully in Malay. 😂", "It's not the language, it's the dialect or the slang that gives me the scammers vibe..." ], [ "Report spam n leave, the end" ], [ "Who the hell in this world can sell higher price but want to sell cheaper, sell cheaper vs lelong is totally not relevant. Yea as you said too good to be true.\nPlease purchase from reputable platform such as Carousel that can see seller review and years of active in the platform.\nHonestly such questions totally no need to ask one. As you cant COD when such cheap price and you cant even believe then dont waste time.\nStay safe." ], [ "Broken English or broken Malay language is always a clear sign of scams." ], [ "No wonder people get scammed left right and centre." ], [ "If you still go through with this then it’s not even a scam anymore, it’s just being gullibly stupid" ], [ "The address corresponds to a Ar-Rahnu gold pawnshop, and the language these people use screams konoha to me.\nIn any case, confirm 100% scammer as the price is definitely too good to be true." ], [ "Rtx 3050 is kinda new card, no shit the newly second hand whole laptop priced RM950. 144hz brand new 5-7K, 4K will only get you 60hz brand new. The cpu too.\nKL got refurbish or second hand shops, go visit the one operated for many years.\nCOD + plugged in to verify all genuine hardware is a MUST.\nThis is a deal that you are looking to save 5-10% max, with 99% of chance of losing RM950. Nearby reputable physical shops are always your best friends." ], [ "Thats scam bro" ] ]

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[ [ "There's no JAKIM ban on \"Merry Christmas\" greetings on cakes.", "Sure , but the fact that this is even a question on people's minds is troubling. How is this not a problem in other Islamic countries. What's so special about the Islam in Malaysia?", "How is this not a problem in other Islamic countries.\nThey ban other cultures and limit immigration.\nWhat's so special about the Islam in Malaysia?\nWe have a significant portion of the population that is not Muslim and recognises other non Muslim holiday as public holidays", "Hmmmm that's not true, like completely false. The UAE for example has a large migrant non Muslim population and you don't see this fundamentalist nonsense there.", "Key word “migrants”. We don’t have migrants, we have locals which have much louder voices.", "That strengthens my case even further. They needn’t care about the migrants but even there the Muslims there don’t act retarded.", "I vaguely remember that zakar naik started that, and the islam communities agrees and followed up. Whether jakim also followed or not, I can't remember.\nBut i do remember reading about that last week, and greetings on cake is allowed to take home, but not on display cake for halal cake shop.", "Cos Islamophobia. Order is simple, no non-halal ingredients and halal supply chain. Then non-experts start speculating and victim mentality start over-reacting, we ended up with this mess that was a non-issue from the start.", "They start speculating when there is NO clarity and when 70% of populace is butt hurt." ], [ "Typical Malaysian media trying to stir shit because they don't have anything else hot to report on.", "Exactly. I don't really read many news articles nowadays anyway" ], [ "Taliban. You mean Taliban." ], [ "Useless redundant Jakim ninjas. Some more PMX giving them bigger budget allocation. Are Auditor General , MACC making sure that big funds given to them are properly accounted for and not abused?", "A bunch of foolish half-cooked decision makers with their short-sighted vision which then swept everything under the rug like it’s nothing biggie" ], [ "The medias milking issues from 2020", "Desperately want that sweet sweet minimum wage, it seems.\nAnything for a paycheck." ], [ "Full name is Department of Islamic Development Malaysia.\nNo wonder keep on reminiscing the Islamic Golden Age, agency like this tak boleh pakai punya." ], [ "Ask JAKIM one festival st a time. Otherwise they have nothing better to do." ], [ "Cannot put lah, many weak minds here need can die if don't have many layers of protection barriers against their imaginary kafir enemies" ] ]

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[ [ "Malaysia offers free 3 month tourist visa on arrival. I considered mm2h in the past, but an hour Air Asia visa run to Indonesia can be done so easily, therefore I could not justify locking up precious capital on the scheme." ], [ "Malaysia dream on. The rich Chinese have all gone to Singapore." ], [ "Screencap of the article\n<image>" ] ]

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[ [ "Bincangkan agak-agak berapa harga nom plat itu", "0\nParticipant car of the Islamic Development Bank conference", "0\nXbox kid username. xXxfartsnifferxXx" ], [ "remind me of G-Dragon IG tag" ], [ "Shame not being on Aston Martin DB....\nOh wait there ain't no DB10", "There is a DB10, but it's specially-built for a film.", "Yeah I knew about that, was referring to mass produced models. 😂" ] ]

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[ [ "Wow, has it been 18 years already?\nWatched in the cinema, it was very good.", "Amazing overall. Gubra got my bulu. standing" ], [ "How I missed Yasmin.. sepet, grubar. She was unique and special. Dare to show what we really are and in her life as well." ], [ "Till this day I still can't find the uncensored(uncut) version which is available on VCD many years ago :(", "That's tough... all vcd kena kuman.", "I got 1 VCD ori. Sepet" ], [ "Absolutely brilliant, no holds barred, way ahead of it's time, i think if you release it now, Certain groups would have it banned immediately, haha" ] ]

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[ [ "My only issue with the woman coach is that the coach right in front of the escalator should be unisex coach.\nI almost go into to the wrong coach when rushing for MRT", "imaging you OKU, senior men, you have to walk extra distance to get into the right coach. lol\nIMO woman coach should be at one end of the train, not in the middle. Whoever come up woman coach in the middle of the train is an idiot.\nHow I should I cross into another coach without enter woman section? Teleport over kah?", "Yeah, imagine there's another seat at the end of the train, but between you and the seat, it's the woman coach" ], [ "lol. Men here are really not empathetic at all. Imagine your mother or sister were groped by strangers. Then you would change your tune.\nFYI, during peak hours, the women carriages are full too. It’s not like the carriage is empty with few people in it. Also, the number of female ridership increases after the implementation of only-female-coaches.", "I think most men would be fine if women actually take the women carriages instead of hogging both side.\nWomen got freedom to choose the carriage but not men in this scenario. In peak hour, of course men will get pissed off. I don't experience this problem since i take LRT.", "Dude. If women can enter your carriage, it means that your carriage is still empty. It’s not like the women carriage is empty while you guys are full. And trust me, they will definitely go to women carriage when public carriage is packed.\nI don't experience this problem since i take LRT.\nI know because like I mentioned above, women carriage is as packed as public carriage during peak hours. You don’t even read before replying.\nImagine getting angry over stuffs when you don’t even take the train.", "Before diving into another rabbit hole, let me be clear: I support women's carriage. Now that I've clarified, let me start.\nYes, the women's carriage is full during the peak hours, which is good.\nHowever, I've noticed that during some non-peak hours, there women's carriage is not as occupied as the other 2 mix carriages beside it. It gets pretty crowded on the mix carriages, and yet some women still chose to board on the mix-sex carriage. Why can't they move to the women's carriage if they can see that it's more crowded on the mix carriage? (genuine question)\nAgain, to avoid misunderstandings, I support women's carriage.", "It really depends person to person. What happened if the wife is going out with the family and she doesn’t want to get on another separate carriage? Or they are fine with mix carriage because it’s still not full albeit crowded. Even during non-peaked hours, I can see that women carriage is relatively full. It’s only a concern when I can’t get on the train because mix carriage if full while women carriage is not. But it never happens.", "Er, you don't think women take last or 1st carriage because it is nearer to stairs or escalators? Or women taking normal carriage because they think female carriage is unnecessary to them? Or or or...\nYou getting emotional for what lol. Sensitive af.", "Who is getting emotional? Stop projecting.\nMy female colleagues literally only get on female carriage because they were harassed before. They also feel safer. And many are doing the same as proven by the carriage is ALWAYS full during peak hours and the female riderships have INCREASED since the introduction of all women carriages.\nDude, what you need to do is go to the LRT station and observe yourself. Don’t simply create scenarios out of thin air when you don’t even take the train. 😂\nI’m done here. Peace out", "I like how you lack critical thinking lol. I basically said some don't take it bcs simply they dont care or for convenience sake. You think people lining up could predict the future whether if the female couch is full or nah so they take the normal coach instead? You speak with zero common sense lol. Ppl line up before going into coach, not rush in like kindergarden student. Then how you explain if female lining up for normal coach? Bruh moment. You definitely never took one lol.\nYou wording definitely sounds like you being emotional lmao.", "Aiyo. Now I know you don’t take train at all. You talk about critical thinking skill but it seems like you don’t possess one. They know the train will be full because they take it EVERYDAY at the SAME time. If I get off from work at 530pm, the train will be full so most women automatically go to the women carriage. They can judge by the amount of people at the station just by looking before even reaching the train terminal. If you need to queue up to pass the auto gate, it’s confirmed to be full. You don’t have to be a psychic to know that.\nThat’s why I said, go to LRT to look at it yourself. Don’t simply talk cock here. I take the train sometimes so I know better than a person who think he’s a know-it-all.\nIf you think my simple rebuttal seems emotional to you, you are just too immature and get riled easily by people who disagree with you.", "\"Sometimes\", yep i aldr knew it.\nDefinitely getting emotional when you reply even tho you said you done lmao.\nI rest my case. Haha.", "I would stop replying if I were you, dude keeps going on and on about peak hours like yes, peak hour trains are all full, regardless of carriage.\nBut when questioned about women who board the mixed carriage when the women one isn't full during non-peak hours, he just goes on to say it's down to the person like yea that doesn't really answer the original question that you posted.", "That's my way of proving someone is emotional, they just start spewing nonsensical stuff, hearsay, vulgar words and self injecting confidence sentences to make themselves look bigger, like a red panda attempt to drive away their predator lmao", "Look, if men don't complain, what's the point?", "", "Damn, you literally created an imaginary scenario as a rebuttal 💀" ], [ "Makes no sense. Our laws and enforcement of laws should be used to handle harassment, not women only MRT coaches. I don't think I have seen this kind of logic in other countries as well especially those with advanced train systems like Singapore, Japan or China.\nJust seems like another policy rolled out in Malaysia without much afterthought." ], [ "No issue with female only coach. But why is it in the middle? If I walk through it to get to the opposite coaches, I get stared at and sometimes told me to get out" ], [ "How dare they do this to us. As a man, I am outraged. Women are taking up valuable space which I, a MALE, could be using to seat my enormous balls. This is an offense against the patriarchy.\nThe least they could do is give us some horses.", "lololol", "Stop laughing, FEMINISTS. You are violating my male rights.", "Ken is that you?", "Anywhere else I'd be a ten..." ], [ "That's good news" ], [ "From 8 cases to 3 cases and making the MRT less efficient during peak hour for millions of people. That's not very smart, that's why even Singapore doesn't do this.", "Care to explain (with statistics) how it has become less efficient?", "I don't have statistics but basically you're limiting the amount of passengers on the female coach (since male passengers are not allowed on) and thus each train can hold less passengers, making it less efficient (from a purely passenger capacity perspective), since the sex ratios on a train are not always 50:50. I'm not sure if the statistics reflect this but you can just go check the ridership data (which is available online) and find if there's any change in ridership beyind the date when female were implemented\nEdit: Ok I got the statistics and this shows the above premise is false.\n<image>\nData from data.gov.my\nWe can see that ridership has been on an upwards trend ever since the female coaches were implemented.\nGod bless data collection\nOf course, the above situation I just explained is still valid with the assumption that MRT trains are operating at 100% ridership capacity.", "Then you should cross out your comment. People might read the first paragraph and took it as truth.", "And that's why I asked for actual stats. Because the data showed a higher percentage of women taking the MRT compared to men. So unless there's evidence to show the women's coach is SIGNIFICANTLY under utilised, this is a good SHORT TERM move until there can be more coaches procured.", "Upvoted for being honest with data", "What a terrible way to show statistics, use of public transport has always been on the rise post COVID, obviously since the implementation which is in mid 2023 would result in the rise of passengers, long term it wouldn't be efficient as the rise of passengers reaches its carrying capacity.", "So what is your solution to women getting harassed and that having women coach atleast helped even in small cases? If you don’t have one then your point is useless.", "Setting this up it's just \"换汤不换药\". None of the public transport in SG has women coach. They only set places for the needs. You know why? Cameras are EVERYWHERE.", "Pretty sure we have cameras alright; whether they actually work, and how long are they keeping the footage however...", "Comparing SG is kinda hard. SG is a small country the size of KL, with 100x the financial capacity.", "Hmmmm if based on area size KL actually smaller though.", "But the LRT & MRT system is the whole of Selangor.", "Haha what? Didn’t know Kuala Selangor has MRT", "Don’t base it on KL when mrt and lrt spreads throughout Selangor. Selangor is 8000km, Singapore is less than 800km. It’s. Not even half the size.", "Entire country in SG has cctv everywhere, criminals cant run. You can escape in MY because there's no cctv everywhere. You can murder someone inside a home and cops can still find you.", "Surprisingly PDRM are good at solving crimes." ], [ "Let's just hope the ladies take advantage of the female coaches and not clog up the other coaches. Let's not have another KTM, 3 coaches where the middle coach is only for the ladies type of congestion. I vividly remembered that I missed 3 ktm trains during peak hours back at 2012 when it's 45 minutes between trains. When the 4th train arrives, I felt so defeated that I went and get a taxi instead." ], [ "kalau lelaki raba lelaki macam mana pulak?", "Raba la lelaki tu balik apa susah.", "Tak boleh buat apa, tu semua salah DAP.", "Buat lah kes besar besar macam previously the lady reported the flasher. Solution lain lah nanti." ], [ "It can be in tandem - both a short-term and long-term solution. It's not binary.", "Tbf, we already have an All-girl school / Universities even before this.", "There's a reason why you don't see this in socially advanced countries like in Europe, unlike in the Middle East or neighboring Indonesia.\nWhich why a lot of people don't understand, that the harassment reports are a symptom of an underlying problem, implementing women coaches doesn't address the root problem.\nIt solves the symptom temporarily and introduces more segregation. Malaysia is already quite bad in race segregation and religious segregation, adding in gender segregation is another Pandora's box to Malaysia's mountain of social problems.\nYou know which country tried gender segregation and race segregation? 1950s USA. And well, does Malaysia want to regress socially back to 1950s USA?", "Cant, Malaysia is more concerned about gay people and non-muslim having fun. Fuck the women and children apparently." ], [ "they should upgrade with a door detector that scan ic then detect is female. or wishful thinking." ], [ "Hoorayyyy, big L for men! I h8 them. (I’m a boy too :3)" ] ]

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[ [ "If you ask me, I say this is good thing. Artists now have the gut to brings controversial topics to stage, world even. Now it's up for our local artists to keep burning the flame, don't let it die. Time to catch up with Indonesian music industry (personally I feels like Indonesia have better music due to much expressive lyrics, but maybe that's just me)\nDon't get me wrong, Fahmi will ban the shit out of you, but let streisand effect do its job.", "I feel really sad every time I think about Yasmin Ahmad passing way too early. Not only were her movies well directed and beautifully crafted but she was also bringing stories that were real and genuine. Only considered controversial because it is not what mainstream \"moral police\" wants, but those stories are just Malaysian stories that are human and relatable.\nBut there's hope yet with the new gen film makers :')", "you are so right. I love Indonesian music especially the Indie scene. I notice the Indie scene in Malaysia is also improving every year. I believe this is because Indonesians went through a socialist phase though", "Considering one of my favourite Indonesian bands has a song called \"aku adalah tuhan\" think we've got a long way to go." ], [ "These kind of movies need critical thinking skills and ability to self reflect - and these skills are lacking in a big portion of Malaysia.\nFor example, the controversy of Mentega Terbang was absurd if you watch the entire movie. The father literally went back to Islam. The child learnt other religions and still stayed with Islam. Are we not allowed to learn other religions? Like wtf. The lack of empathy for a grieving child is appalling.", "The father literally went back to Islam. The child learnt other religions and still stayed with Islam.\nExactly. It wasn't a \"let's become murtad\" movie, it was a movie about \"let's examine our faith BECAUSE THAT WILL MAKE IT STRONGER.\"\nAnd conservative ketuanans still got offended.\nKetuanans are very hati tisu.", "Are we not allowed to learn other religions?\nAccording to some Malaysians, yes. Because it might \"tempt\" you to convert. It feels liberating to be able to learn about other faiths when you're out of Malaysia. Yet I still have no desire to convert.", "So these people are tempted to be converted everytime passed Batu Caves ?", "Use \"logic\" on conservative.\nFailed!\nAttack has no effect, no critical thinking ability detected.\nConservative use \"emotional attack and warning\"\nSuccess!", "\"Critical Thinking\" is a bad word in Malaysia.\nIf everyone can think critically , how can we use race and religion anymore ?", "BAM! YOU NAILED IT !!!", "*if anyone could find 🧈 🦋 in the first place. Caught it for free when it was still on YouTube. The discourse heavily focused on “how do other religions interpret the afterlife”\nIt will still trigger conservatives anyway since it ends with a butterfly flying in, implying that the mother reincarnated as one.", "Are we not allowed to learn other religions?\nYeah believe it or not there are some does think like this.", "Damn, spoiler tag at least bro" ], [ "Screencap of the article\n<image>", "I can't watch the localised (i.e: censored) version of Tiger Stripes even if it was still showing. Just hope the full version makes it to Netflix, like other banned Msian films.\nThanks for the free read tho", "Gambling is illegal in Malaysia? Then why the fuck are there so many casinos? Why does Malaysia have the second worst gambling losses per capita worldwide, second only to Australia? (Per household income. Not overall losses. Malaysia isn’t in the top ten for overall dollar amount)", "Thanks for the info and details.", "How'd u do this" ], [ "Malaysia's Film Industry is going through a difficult time, perhaps they want History Movie :26558:", "Asalkan filem sejarah ada silat dan hero kita lawan askar2 Britain steampunk, wajib ditengok", "You forget cringy movie with zombie, Pontianak, Djin, Makluk Asing….", "And you forget cringy religious/family drama.", "Denmark made a multilingual, high budget production TV series about a war that they themselves badly lost (and they're not afraid to show that they did). If Malaysia did the same, the filmmakers confirm are gonna face harassment :/", "If Malaysia did the same\nThat is why it is known as Malaysia Boleh :26554:", "boleh belah", "whats the tv series called?", "1864.\nIt's not 100% historically accurate and has some dramatisation of course, but the weapon inferiority and strategy depicted were quite close to what happened in the real battles.", "jagat\nimaginur\none to jaga\nwhen they do something like this no one come and see now they just do movie that they know will make money like polis evo or pulau staring miss pui yee. im willing to bet even if this movie come out in malaysia and if it come out without any complains from conservatives nor censorship from finas the movie is going to be busted anyways", "Tak, tak, bukan. Its not a History movie. Its Theirstory movie sbb ni kena citer pasal diorang jer dan ini kena citer kebaikan Melayu sajer also we need to talk shit about the British only or else kau ni Yahudi. /s", "So fanfics about them?", "Utk kebaikan org Melayu ofc", "the best u got is mat Kilau. Take it or leave it. /s" ], [ "With so many stumbling stones, i doubt Malaysia will win any award soon.", "But if they do, Finas/gov will shamelessly claim it's a Malaysian production.", "Welp its good news then that even as a Malaysian, Michelle Yeoh made her fame in movies that FINAS could absolutely not claim any credit for when she finally makes it big", "Reminds me of Abang Adik which received critical acclaim and the male lead Wu Kang-ren has been awarded as best actor in Golden Horse Awards for his performance in this movie, whereas the ministers are giving this movie rave reviews despite the movie is actually about two undocumented orphans in Pudu struggling to make a living, inspired by true life incidents and still happening to this very day. Sounds a little bit irony to me.", "Finas/Gov will claim the movie make Malaysian proud but at the same time ban the movie and arrest anyone who have a copy of it.", "Can win awards overseas but not in Malaysia. Malaysians win but Malaysia loses.", "Didn’t Yasmin Ahmad and / or Sepet (or the sequel / prequel films) win some overseas awards back in the day? I may be misremembering", "She won for Sepet. It was a solid movie but the awards were not \"Cannes\" level." ], [ "We need a revamp. We need to root out the cause of extremism in malay and Muslim. We will make a movie on it", "Amen" ], [ "Amat menyedihkan bila kreatif2 Melayu pun dibantai oleh geng macai dalam bangsa kita sendiri. Kayangan paksa kreatif2 Melayu buat filem selera mereka seperti seram, gangster, drama, unsur agama dan apabende mereka panggil cerita cinta yg sebenarnya filem2 stalker. Kayangan tak mau kita buat filem yg banyak menyoalkan status quo mereka.\nCensorship hanyalah salah satu senjata Kayangan ni; yg lain guna cybertrooper, doxxing, death threat etc kpd kreatif2 yg dianggap Hang Jebat kpd kedudukan mereka.\nHaraplah satu hari nanti kita sesama bangsa Melayu dan non dapat melawan geng Kayangan ni." ], [ "Funny that politician get mad at statement of \"Cina juga boleh menjadi PM\" of a cina guy spoke in a foreign country, get mad and tell people how intolerant they are. Proceed to also get mad at a movie that straight out point out how intolerant they are." ], [ "Just air the movie overseas instead of Malaysia. I don't see any hope in our entertainment industry.", "Imagine the movie win an Oscar, and even PMX congratulate the director, but the movie is banned in Malaysia.", "that's gonna happen and it will be tragic-comedy for Malaysians." ], [ "The problem with this is, these conservative morons that are in charge of these things (as well as those whom agree with their actions) are idiots and don't understand context.\nJust because the subject touchers something regardless of the context it's a straight out ban. Doesn't matter if it is trying to make a point etc etc. I guess understanding context requires brainpower and these morons don't have enough brainpower amongst all of them to store a byte of information." ], [ "Fuhh, dah macam duduk kat india" ], [ "From an international standpoint, there's basically no film in this country worth watching, which really fucking sucks. Even in places like China with such heavy-handed censorship, Hu Bo was able to make something like An Elephant Sitting Still. We have fucking N O T H I N G, because we can't show anything that's \"bad\" in cinema.", "And they have Bi Gan. We have some talented people here, but we let them all go. Definitely a country with no eye for art." ], [ "Anak najib literally made Wolf of the wall street using 1MDB money and nobody give a shit" ], [ "Malaysia road to oscar sound too ambitious at least at the moment. if the goal seem possible because of Parasite, South Korean movie winning the oscar, they should know they are years of great movie produced from South Korean movie industry before Parasite. In this moment, Malaysia film industry should focus on finding some niche and be great at it. just like how South Korean is famous for thriller movie and family friendly action movie, Thailand with their horror and romantic comedy or Japan with their love/illness/death kind of movie or anime movie (which Malaysia already thrive in this genre and can be bigger in coming years)" ], [ "Backwards. Violent backwards even." ], [ "that's what I like about some Korean films is they often bring out controversial topic related to their society, and their film industry strived due to freedom to talk about these issues and even the gov will sometimes financially support" ], [ "Democratic People's Republic Of Malaysia" ], [ "Every day conservatives show how insecure they are by opposing free speech." ], [ "i duno much any good movies in malaysia. but i do like those from Yasmin Ahmad and Aflin Shauki. the last i recall that had story n quality was KL Gangster. 1&2." ], [ "Is there a movie on rempits?", "Too many to count", "queue Mara Bahaya" ], [ "Call themselves conservatives, but acting pretty aggressive.", "Nothing surprising. Conservative tend to lean on suppressing others rights and bullying them to accept status quo. Jangan probok." ], [ "and people say to learn Malay language...lol for wat? to watch censored crappy/religious movies?" ], [ "just arrest the criminals", "just arrest the criminals\nFahmi Fadzil and Saifuddin Nasution say cannot, because will lose the conservative Malay vote that they're never gonna get uh, I mean it's not their portfolio, let me taichi to someone else." ], [ "🤣 first day in Malaysia? you are surprised?" ], [ "We need a movie about the conservatives who are being little b*tches about movies. Shame them." ], [ "Shows that the elderly people who was born pre 65 are the loudest minority in the country. Now it shows that conservative value are meaningless in the world. They devaluate the original mission statement and Malaysia are in the path of Orwell's Animal Farm." ], [ "They rather make stupid hantu movies for the 500th time. Cringe comedy. Even p ramlee old movies are 10x better than the shit they produce today." ], [ "What is this movie is about?\nBtw, fuck those savage conservatives.", "A metaphorical tale about the horrors of growing into puberty and adolescence. At the same time, an ode to Msian womanhood.\nBasically the localised, dark version of Turning Red with weretigers instead of red pandas", "See, most don't even know and suddenly it's about Malaysia." ], [ "Worse than USA now", "Since when were we ever better than the US in terms of censorship?", "We were never even remotely close to being better than the US in terms of censorship though. Yes, the US is garbage when it comes to things like healthcare and gun control, but their freedom of speech is one area they truly excel in. They have arguably the \"free-est\" free speech in the world.\nMalaysia on the other hand, sad to say we're very far from having proper freedom of speech, and will continue to stay there as long as Malaysians continue to be sensitive about stuff like the 3Rs (and by this I mean Malaysians of all backgrounds, not any particular race)." ], [ "This has always been my least favourite thing about Malaysia. I’m proud of Malaysia for a lot of things but definitely not this." ] ]

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[ [ "Kids these days dont know the fun of playing that foot thing. Try make the sewing machine spin as fast as possible. Hahahaha", "Young me seeing it like a steam train wheel, Choo choo", "tht foot thing is actually very relaxing", "The sound it makes rhyme well with the rattan sound on the buttock." ], [ "Aren't those the sewing machine table? I recognise that 2 little drawers, because my grandma probably has the same one long ago", "It is the good ol heavy wooden sewing machine table. I still got that thing. Such childhood memories.\n...Although those sew machine tables are really small space for comp setups." ], [ "I guess I'm lucky enough to still be WFH post MCO and able to watch my setup grew and upgraded\nI love my life", "Same here, MNC is the best 😎" ], [ "Why i saw accounting stuff" ], [ "Employer too cheap to buy RM80 desk?", "Those sewing machines now worth quite abit, its better to sell it off and get more than just one desk." ], [ "https://news.acer.com/acer-unveils-the-ekinekt-bike-desk-to-empower-active-and-sustainable-lifestyles --> the pic defo the budget version." ] ]

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[ [ "Speaking of congestion, KLCC on Christmas Eve gonna get hellish soon on top with CF event.", "What is CF?", "Comic Fiesta, should be", "Celebrity Fitness", "We have so many public transportation options now to go Klcc ,no excuses for this", "The traffic is not the transportation, but human traffic at both KLCCs and the park area", "Ah yes, the 1km long entrance queue from last year", "Shudders" ], [ "Why is it only 23rd and 26th? Not 23 to 26?", "23rd : balik kampung\n26th: snap to reality, go back to work u slave.\n/s", "Half of the people in my office is gonna balik kampung tomorrow and getting back to work after new year only.", "Yea, once again another baffling decision by the govt... Imagine if you can't take leave on those days, then you go back a day later... BAM! Toll for you!", "Jimat kos, bang@kak.", "Ya loh!!! ?€<]?+" ], [ "Maybe it is true, we celebrate xmas harder than western countries :D", "We celebrate any kind of holiday (except PAS)" ], [ "I’m curious how much does government have to pay for this? Or none?", "about RM 20 million per day (source)", "SHEEEEEEEEEEEESH", "And my mum were “surprised”when I said government shouldn’t spend more money because our economy is performimg really bad." ], [ "Does it start from 23/12 12:01 am?", "Yup\n<image>" ], [ "I’m leaving the country on the 22nd and coming back on the 27th 😢😢" ], [ "As someone who just caught Covid pretty bad for the first time at a relative's majlis, I emplore and remind my fellow nyets to not let their guards down at events and gatherings. If can, do mask up, especially those who are flu-ish and if you're around the elderly. You can save a lot of people a lot of suffering.", "Yep and wash hands and dont forget to stay up to date with vaccine boosters." ], [ "Noice" ], [ "Should I balik kampung after work on 22 or hold on until morning 23.\nDecision2", "After work confirm\n23 is gonna be hell on highway", "From where to where", "Bangi to melaka", "Perak to Penang, am also contemplating", "After work go balik kampung, before exit the toll, go lepak tepi tol tunggu ngam2 pukul 12", "Go back on 22, if Hari Raya or CNY is any evidence. You're going to be stuck on the highway cause some dumbass was going to miss their exit but break from right most lane and start slowly crossing to the left most lane causing all the cars to slow down.\nStuffers in 6 hour drive from Melaka to KL" ], [ "I disagree with this move.\nFirstly, only a small percentage of tolled road users are Christians who celebrate Christmas, and the majority of Christians live is East Malaysia, where there are no tolled roads. So, saying that this move is in conjunction with Christmas contradicts the fact that most of the people who will benefit from this do not celebrate Christmas, and most people who celebrate Christmas will not benefit from this.\nSecondly, this will encourage people to travel on those two days, thus increasing road congestion on the two days, wasting people's time and money and increasing the chances of road accidents.", "First, not only Christians can enjoy the holiday. Others will take the chance of any long weekend to balik kampung.\nSecond, gov need to increase toll price by 10x so no people will travel thus no road congestions /s", "First, not only Christians can enjoy the holiday. Others will take the chance of any long weekend to balik kampung.\nSo why not also have it on the New Year weekend? It's a long weekend, same as this weekend. I'm sure many will also want to balik kampung next weekend.", "Raya got free toll, cny also and Deepavali.\nLater dont do free toll for Christmas, say gov dont care about christians.", "But like I said, majority of Christians will not get the benefit of free toll.", "Country already no money and still government wants to spend more?", "Politics. This is not to get support, but lets face it, many people are angry due to rise in cost of living. These small candies are just to help cool things down a bit. Gov have no choice but to do it. If they dont, the anger may reach a critical point and will direct that anger towards the government.\nSo from time to time, need give out candies so that anger dont continue to go up.", "Bro, can't we have nice things?", "You realise that this is not free, don't you? The government will be paying millions of ringgit in compensation to the toll concessionaires.", "Good.", "Don’t even argue with them, you can’t win anyways", "Guys, chill, he forgot his /s", "Tons of non-Christians celebrate the commercial side of the holiday", "Oh come on let the minorities have some fun" ], [ "Just in time for cf yeeeee" ] ]

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[ [ "I remember too and had been using different keywords to find it since I read your post 5 hours ago but also couldnt find it. Will keep looking." ] ]